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Robert Philp

Sir Robert Philp, (28 December 1851 – 17 June 1922) was a Queensland businessman and politician who was Premier of Queensland from December 1899 to September 1903 and again from November 1907 to February 1908.

Early life
Philp was born in Glasgow, Scotland, the second son of John Philp, a lime-kiln operator, and Mary Ann Philp (née Wylie). He emigrated to Brisbane with his parents and siblings in 1862, where his father took a lease on the municipal baths, and later became involved in the cattle and sugar industries. Philp was educated at the National (Normal) School until 1863 when he started work at Bright Bros & Co shipping company, before moving to Townsville in 1874 to take up the position of junior partner in the trading company Burns, Philp and Company.

Burns, Philp & Co acted as agents and provisioners for the sugar cane and pastoral industries that sustained Northern Queensland, and Philp served as manager of the Townsville office. Beginning in 1881, Philp diverted some of the company's vessels to the labour trade, recruiting South Pacific Islanders (known as Kanakas) to work as indentured labourers on the canefields, despite the reservations of his business partner James Burns. A royal commission into recruiting practices in 1885 coincided with a downturn in the sugar industry, and as a result the company's vessels were returned to other commercial operations. While this affair had been profitable for Burns, Philp, it did not contribute significantly to later commercial success, although it would not be Philp's last interest in the South Pacific labour trade.

Despite the success of Burns, Philp & Co, Philp made some poor personal investments, such as his loss of £5000 on the "Comet" mine. Like many others he was affected by the economic depression of the 1890s, borrowing £20,000 to purchase property in Brisbane which three years later was valued at only £16,230. He also owed considerable sums of money to the North Queensland Mortgage & Investment Co., as well as holding a £5000 mortgage with respect to other properties. Although Burns tried to assist him, Philp was forced to sell his shares in Burns, Philp & Co in 1893, and was still in financial difficulty as late as 1898, although by this stage he had restricted his business ventures to more conservative investments.

When the business-friendly McIlwraith government lost office in 1883 it was succeeded by the Liberal government of Samuel Griffith that sought to end the trade in Kanakas. As a prominent businessman who had served several times on the local council Philp was active in bankrolling and supporting candidates in opposition to Griffith. He supported the growing movement for the separation of North Queensland from the rest of the colony.

Early parliamentary career
Philp entered the Legislative Assembly of Queensland in 1886 as Member for Musgrave. He supported the North Queensland separatists in their unsuccessful attempts to gain independence, but spent most of his early parliamentary career preoccupied with his business affairs. His seat of Musgrave was abolished and in 1888 he was successfully returned as one of the two members for the electorate of Townsville. His parliamentary activity was mainly in support of North Queensland and his business interests – extending railway links to North Queensland, and the abolition of import tariffs. When the import of Pacific islanders was temporarily halted in 1892 Philp was instrumental in securing its resumption.

Premier and opposition leader
Philp was a prolific speculator and in 1893 he was forced by debt to resign from the board of directors of Burns, Philp. In May of the same year McIlwraith, now governing in coalition with Griffith in what was known as the "Continuous Ministry", appointed Philp as Minister for Mines. He held several other ministerial posts, such as Public Instruction, Railways, Public Works and Treasurer until 1899. when the Continuous Ministry was briefly unseated by the Labor government of Anderson Dawson. Philp was an able administrator. He codified mining regulations and encouraged the private development of railways throughout the colony. The railway construction process was alleged to be corrupt by the Labor members, and after narrowly winning a vote of confidence in November 1899 James Dickson resigned as Premier. Dawson's government lasted a week before losing Parliamentary support and Philp, despite his protestations in support of Dickson, was chosen as Premier by his colleagues.

The Australian colonies federated in 1901 and the new Prime Minister Edmund Barton immediately ended the trade in Kanakas. By this stage Queensland was severely depleted in revenue, and Federation exacerbated this situation by depriving Queensland of excise and customs funds. Despite a severe drought and the dire state of the state's finances, Philp was re-elected in 1902. Discontent brewed among Ministerialists who were bitter at missing out on Cabinet positions, and in August 1903 Digby Denham crossed the floor with supporters to bring down the government and form a coalition led by Arthur Morgan.

Philp, with his genial nature, was ill-suited to the position of Opposition Leader, and showed little enthusiasm in attacking the new government. Morgan briefly lost control of the Legislative Assembly in 1904 and Philp was called upon by Governor Sir Herbert Chermside to form a ministry, but could not secure sufficient support from among his colleagues. The end result was a dissolution of Parliament and a solid defeat of the Opposition. Philp resumed his position as Leader and his conciliatory treatment of the government continued when fellow Scot William Kidston became Premier. Philp cultivated good relations with Kidston and helped foster the increasing gap between Kidston and the Labor movement.

Philp's party was again unsuccessful in the elections of 1907. Kidston was encountering difficulties in securing the passage of his legislation through the intransigent Legislative Council and after Lord Chelmsford as Governor refused Kidston's request to appoint sufficient new councillors so as to give Kidston a majority, he resigned in November. Lord Chelmsford commissioned Philp as Premier, but, unable to entice any of Kidston's supporters to his cause, he remained without a majority in the Legislative Assembly, which promptly blocked supply. Over Kidston's protests, Lord Chelmsford guaranteed supply through the issuing of writs and then dissolved the Assembly, but Philp failed to win the subsequent election.

In 1908 Kidston, alienated from the Labor party, relied on Philp's support to pass legislation approving construction of private railways. By October the two leaders had sufficient in common that they negotiated a merger of their two parties, ending Philp's career as opposition leader.

Later life
Philp remained in parliament, and also returned to tending his business interests. He enjoyed the status that his long parliamentary career gave him and participated in the foundation of the University of Queensland in 1912. He was a member of the University's first Senate, and its representative at a conference of universities in Glasgow in 1912. Philp lost his seat by a small margin in the Labor landslide of 1915 but remained active in politics, campaigning for the conscription referendums of the First World War and leading the resistance to the abolition of the Legislative Council. In 1920 he led a delegation to London which thwarted Premier Ted Theodore's attempts to gain loans from London financiers to fund government expenditure.

On 17 June 1922 he died in Brisbane and was buried at Toowong Cemetery.

Family
Philp married Jessie Banister Campbell (daughter of prominent Brisbane businessman James Campbell) in 1878; she died in 1890. In 1898 he married Wilhelmina Fraser Munro; she died in 1940

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Talk:Carleton College

Area
This page says the campus is 1040 acres, of which 880 is the arboretum (which would mean that the main campus is 160 acres, not 200); while the Arboretum page says the arb has 800 acres. Surely someone at the college can reconcile these differences. Kablammo (talk) 04:46, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

References in Popular Culture
I'm curious to know why 3 of the points from the popular culture section have been removed. One documented the films in which the campus has appeared (D3: The Mighty Ducks, and an upcoming indie film, Tuscaloosa). This had multiple references. Another was a reference in the major Hollywood production, Whiplash (also cited). And finally, Carleton is reference in a music video by Lizzo. Do these not qualify as references in popular culture or is there some other reason they were removed?Tell-it-slant (talk) 15:44, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Trivia doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. ElKevbo (talk) 16:29, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

More trivia
This issue has arisen again over two years later. This time, the trivia includes (a) a game created by college alumni, (b) a film that was "partially filmed" at the college, and (c) a fictional alumnus.

 * "The legendary educational video game series The Oregon Trail was initially created by three Carleton students."

The cited source doesn't appear to make a substantive link between the college and the game. If there is a link, it's certainly explained in the text in this article. Are we expected to include every invention and accomplishment by every alumnus?

 * "The 1996 film D3: The Mighty Ducks was partially filmed on Carleton's campus."

Why would we include this trivia in the article? What are readers supposed to learn from it aside from the minor fact that one film was "partially" filmed at the college? Without any context, that disconnected fact is de facto trivia.

 * "Ben Wyatt, a character from NBC's Parks and Recreation, graduated from Carleton with a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science."

Not only is this clearly trivia that tells readers nothing about the college, it's also unsourced. We need something much more substantive - why the writers included this connection, what the connection was supposed to communicate, etc. - for this to be worth including in an encyclopedia article. And it would probably still not be worth including without further similar examples.

I strongly encourage editors who are interested in this section to participate in this discussion. ElKevbo (talk) 17:53, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

 * Hello - I agree that Mighty Ducks 3 being filmed on campus probably does not make the cut for "In Popular Culture", but I'm struggling to understand how the other two don't.

 * In the case of the Oregon Trail, the game was created by currently enrolled students who were studying to become teachers. This is directly supported by the cited source: "Heinemann, Rawitsch, and Dillenberger were student teachers finishing their degrees at Carleton College and living together in the sparsely furnished apartment", as well as other sources that discuss the game's origins. No one is suggesting that this section should include every invention and accomplishment by every alumnus (not that it even comes close to this standard currently), but the fact that the game was invented by students who were enrolled at the college during the game's inception, that the game's creation was directly tied to their career goals, and is one of the most successful and well-known educational video games of all-time warrants inclusion.

 * Here is a source that supports that Ben Wyatt attended Carleton. His own Wikipedia page supports that he grew up in rural Minnesota and majored in political science at Carleton, directly related to his future career as a state auditor which then leads to his appearance on the show. I don't see why further similar examples would need to be provided - the notability of the reference is that it was incredibly rare for a character on a major NBC sitcom to have attended Carleton, a small, rural liberal arts college that has virtually no broader pop culture recognition or significance.

 * IncorruptibleWalrus (talk) 18:58, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

 * The connection between Oregon Trail and the college is very weak. I was hoping that the source would describe the program being developed as part of one of their classes, with assistance or input from someone at the college, or otherwise connected to the college. But there doesn't seem to be a connection to the college other than the fact that people who developed the game happened to be enrolled at the college.
 * We really need some independent sources for material in the article, especially for facts that are not the common ones required in articles e.g., enrollment, location. A one paragraph new item from the college bragging about this very obscure and unexplained connection is nowhere near strong enough (or, frankly, interesting enough) to warrant inclusion of this disconnected and unexplained fact in the article. You need much better sourcing and context. Have the show's writers or the showrunner ever talked about this? Has the actor ever been asked about it? ElKevbo (talk) 19:25, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

 * The game was developed by multiple Carleton students, fulfilling a degree requirement to student teach, working together to develop the game's concept and program the initial version. Here is another source that corroborates this.

 * ″In 1971 Don Rawitsch was a 21-year-old college student majoring in history at Carleton College in Minnesota. At the same time, he was taking the required education coursework to become certified as a teacher. One requirement of the program was to spend time as a student teacher. Don’s assignment was to teach American history at a local junior high school. As he looked over the upcoming lesson schedule, he saw that it included a unit on America’s westward expansion in the 1800s. As he thought about creative ways to teach this unit and engage his students, he came up with the idea of a board game based on the Oregon Trail.

 * Don shared an apartment in Minneapolis with two other Carleton student teachers, Bill Heinemann and Paul Dillenberger – two math majors who also taught in the city schools. Both Bill and Paul had learned how to program computers using BASIC, so when the three of them began to discuss Don’s concept for a board game, they soon decided to create a computer-based game instead.″

 * If the game had originated from alumni or even a Carleton student creating it on their own time, independent from any degree requirements, I might understand the argument that the linkage between the college and the game's origins are weak, but that isn't the case - the game's origins are directly a result of Carleton and collaboration between Carleton students, it's not some just some mere coincidence and the game's page itself references this fact.

 * As for the Parks and Recreation reference - you asked for the claim to be sourced and I provided one. The fact that Ben attended Carleton is not an integral plot line to the show as the show is set years after he attended college, so I don't think it's realistic to expect writers or the actor himself to have commented on it or for it to have gained widespread media attention. If the reference is notable enough to be on his Wikipedia page, I struggle to see why it doesn't merit mention here.

 * In general, to echo comments I made earlier, this section seems to be held to an absurdly high bar of notability, particularly for a small, rural liberal arts college with very little pop culture relevance, which is probably why it only has one uncontroversial entry citing a little-known science fiction novel. The Oregon Trail (at least in previous eras) and Parks and Recreation both have significant pop culture significance, and to suggest that sourced and direct Carleton links to both don't merit acknowledgement here frankly seems a bit inane.

 * IncorruptibleWalrus (talk) 21:15, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

 * It may be helpful to remember that this is an encyclopedia article about the college; it's not a collection of every fact or published source that mentions the college, but the essential information that readers must know to understand this subject. So one critical question to ask about material you think should be included in this - or any other - section of the article is "What will readers learn about the college from this new information?" And please note that the question is not "What do I, a Wikipedia editor, think that readers will learn about the college?" but what the published, reliable sources say. That is my objection to the addition of the fact about the fictional alumnus; just having a fictional alumnus says nothing about the college without significant, additional context. And just having one fictional alumnus is unlikely to say anything significant about any college or university.
 * The information you've written above about the game is exactly the kind of important information that readers need to understand why the game is so significant that it merits inclusion in an encyclopedia article about this college; please add some of it - supported by cited, sources, of course! - to the article. ElKevbo (talk) 22:15, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Friedrich Schiller by Ludovike Simanowiz.jpg

Two-person class?

 * The college graduated its first college class in 1874, James J. Dow and Myra A. Brown, who married each other later that year.

The class was two people? That's a mighty small class... Or is it a typo? – AndyFielding (talk) 14:57, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The sourcing is reasonable and this doesn't give me any concerns. Many institutions founded before the 20th century began as very small institutions. It's also important to remember that prior to the 20th century graduating with a degree was not the goal for all students; for some (sometimes many) students, simply enrolling for a few semesters or years was sufficient to meet their purposes. Others simply ran out of money or had to return to the families to support them. ElKevbo (talk) 23:31, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

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WorldNetDaily

WND (formerly WorldNetDaily) is an American far-right news and opinion website. It is known for promoting fake news and conspiracy theories, including the false claim that former President Barack Obama was born outside the United States.

The site was founded in May 1997 by Joseph Farah, who is its current editor-in-chief and CEO. The website publishes news, editorials, and opinion columns, while also aggregating content from other publications.

History
In 1997 Joseph Farah created the news website WorldNetDaily as a division of the Western Journalism Center. It was subsequently spun off in 1999 as a for-profit organization with the backing of $4.5 million from investors, Farah owning a majority of the stock. The site describes itself as "an independent news company dedicated to uncompromising journalism". In 1999, WorldNetDaily.com, Inc. was incorporated in Delaware with offices in Cave Junction, Oregon.

The website gained notoriety for stoking false "birther" conspiracy theories about President Barack Obama.

In 2018, Farah wrote about WorldNetDaily's financial problems, saying it faced an "existential threat". Farah ceased contributing to the site after his March 12, 2019, column; the site announced a few weeks later that he had suffered a major stroke. In April 2019, The Washington Post reported that WorldNetDaily suffered from declining revenue and diminishing readership. Farah blamed the website's financial woes on what he claimed was suppression by powerful technology companies.

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Talk:Lease/Option

For an October 2004 deletion debate over this page see Votes for deletion/Lease/Option

I added the Lease Purchase basics article, which was taken from my website, www.Lease2Purchase.com. The article may be posted here on wikipedia.com with my permission. In the spirit of the internet, additions and edits are more than welcome. This article currently does not appear when wikipedia users search for "lease purchase," "lease option" or "rent to own," which it should.

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Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Chuck F

'Hexaform Rotary Surface Compression Unit'
I think we should add 'Hexaform Rotary Surface Compression Unit' to this complaint;

User:Chuck F engaged in a debate on Vfd, and to make a point created the nonsense page 'Hexaform Rotary Surface Compression Unit'.

Chuck F (and possibly another user) then added the phrase 'Hexaform Rotary Surface Compression Unit' to the Nut (hardware) page and engaged in a revert war.

In order;
 * (Chuck F | talk | contributions)
 * Created 'Hexaform Rotary Surface Compression Unit' page

 * (210.142.29.125 | talk | contributions)
 * Added 'Hexaform Rotary Surface Compression Unit' to Nut (hardware page)
 * Reverted
 * Did not respond to discussion regarding these edits

 * (66.144.5.25 | talk | contributions)
 * Reverted

 * (Chuck F | talk | contributions)
 * Reverted

This is pure vandalism and I don't know why he hasn't been banned. Duk 02:54, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * I added this incident to the RFC. Rhobite 03:09, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)

Nato at the 2004 summer olympics
A reversion of this article by User:203.112.19.195 was listed as one of the items in the Statement of Dispute. Since the article has now been deleted, and thus only an admin can examine it, here is what happened:

 * User:203.112.19.195 created the article. Content is "Nato beat out the European Union for most medals at the Summer olympics, The count goes as this" (and a medal table)
 * User:Pgreenfinch changed the text to "The European Union, as a friendly gesture, left retiring Nato beats it out for most medals at the Summer olympics, The count goes as this."
 * User:Mikkalai added a tag
 * User:203.112.19.195 reverted to his version with the comment Reverting vandal to last verison by 210 ip

It is not clear whether his reversion was meant to undo Pgreenfinch's apparently humorous edit, Mikkalai's cleanup notice, or both. —Stormie 11:12, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)

Didn't I re-add the clean-up tag after that? I'm almost postive I did. I was Refering to pgreenfinch as the vandel

 * Sorry, I may have misunderstood this chain of events. Rhobite 16:19, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)

 * Aha, I missed that too: the next two edits were:
 * User:Mikkalai listed the article on VfD
 * User:203.112.19.195 restored the tag
 * ..followed by User:Pgreenfinch once again making an apparently humorous edit, and User:Poccil reverting it. Then the article was deleted. It seems to me that Chuck did not do anything untoward on this article. —Stormie 01:24, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)

Invalid dispute?
Chuck F states that this complaint is invalid because two people failed to attempt resolution in the Exxon dispute, and that other complaints have been resolved.

This complaint is larger than the Exxon dispute, it includes, among other things, the vandalism of the Nut (hardware) page. I did attempt to resolve that issue, with no response. Duk 16:24, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Yes, but as the top of the page states did anybody else? as far as I can tell, this qualifies for deletion within thoese 48 hours 203.112.19.195 16:41, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * the two people would be User:Rhobite and me (User:Duk). The dispute is your behavior as outlined above, and not limited to Exxon.  Duk 16:51, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * I moved this discussion to the talk page. I also believe the RFC is valid, and Chuck it's important to realize that this is just an RFC and it can't result in punishment. Although if you break the 3 revert rule or change other people's comments again, an admin may exercise their judgment and block you for a day or two. I think you have made more of an effort to compromise instead of deleting any section with words you disliked. In terms of the validity of this RFC, we need an outside observer to judge that. Rhobite 17:29, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)

Outside Comment and Query
Stormie suggests that Chuck F has just been "learning the ropes". I am rather concerned about Chuck F's changing the comments of others, those are the kind of ethical ropes that one should have learned about in grade school. I've been trying to figure out what Exxon Mobil and Wal-Mart have in common that would make those the only two companies that he would express "anti-corporate" concerns over, when the possibility occured to me that he may be an investor. In truth, I don't really understand the notion of "anti-corporate bias". All large companies eventually end up with some critisim no matter what, and critisim of important institutions is always notable. His behavior on those two articles seems to suggest to me some kind of personal involvement. I wonder if he would be willing to address this possibility. func(talk) 06:43, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Chuck's recent edits and reverts at Ron Paul demonstrate that he hasn't yet learned anything about editing civilly and respectfully. Rhobite 16:55, Oct 15, 2004 (UTC)

 * Wow, and neither has this Reithy guy. func(talk) 17:48, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * You're correct, but I'm not so quick to accuse Chuckschneider of being Reithy. There's no evidence that they're the same person, and I don't believe Reithy has been blocked yet, so why would he need another account? Rhobite 19:46, Oct 15, 2004 (UTC)

 * Yet more names. ;-) In only two days, Chuckschneider has made dozens of edits to a single article and no others... never a good sign. Rhobite, are you an admin? If not, you should be. You are a model of NPOV and consensus building. func(talk) 20:35, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Good thought: Requests for adminship/Rhobite. Hope you don't mind being quoted. RadicalSubversiv E 00:25, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * On Chuck F, can I suggest the persecution of Chuck F conclude now. He is obviously enthusiastic about wikipedia which is to be celebrated and nurtured. Live and let live I think. My only suggestion is that he not be anonymously Chuck but come out and to leave the libertarian articles alone. ReithySockPuppet 22:49, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Reithy - you've endoreed two summarys on the page, Not to be bothersome here... but you really need to choose one

 * Chuck_F, much as I love you I can only feel sadness as your departure is imminent. Reithy 18:10, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)


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Everything's Different Now

Everything's Different Now is the third studio album by the American band 'Til Tuesday, released in 1988. It was the band's final album.

Production
The album was produced primarily by Rhett Davies. "'J' for Jules" is about Mann's ex-boyfriend Jules Shear. "The Other End (Of the Telescope)" was cowritten by Elvis Costello.

Critical reception
The Boston Globe called Everything's Different Now "the most confessional album since Bruce Springsteen's Tunnel of Love." USA Today deemed it "a touching meditation on the ebb and flow of love." The Chicago Tribune labeled it a "little masterpiece of melancholy." The Los Angeles Times wrote that "Mann never comes off as a bitter whiner... What comes through in these gentle but not too genteel pop songs is a profound sense of, above all, disappointment."

Track listing

 * 1) "Everything's Different Now" (Jules Shear, Matthew Sweet) – 3:56
 * 2) "Rip in Heaven" (Aimee Mann, Kit Hain) – 3:31
 * 3) "Why Must I" (Mann) – 3:42
 * 4) "'J' for Jules" (Mann) – 4:26
 * 5) "(Believed You Were) Lucky" (Mann, Shear) – 3:38
 * 6) "Limits to Love" (Mann) – 3:36
 * 7) "Long Gone (Buddy)" (Mann, Michael Hausman) – 4:34
 * 8) "The Other End (Of the Telescope)" (Mann, Declan MacManus) – 3:53
 * 9) "Crash and Burn" (Mann, Hain) – 4:46
 * 10) "How Can You Give Up?" (Mann, Hausman) – 3:38

Personnel
with:
 * 'Til Tuesday
 * Aimee Mann – vocals, bass and acoustic guitar
 * Michael Hausman – drums, percussion and programming
 * Robert Holmes – guitars and background vocals
 * Michael Montes – keyboards
 * Haeryung Shin – violin
 * Peter Abrams – French horn
 * Marcus Miller – additional bass on "How Can You Give Up?" and "Long Gone (Buddy)"
 * Elvis Costello – background vocals on "The Other End (Of the Telescope)"
 * Tiger Okoshi – trumpet and horn arrangement on "How Can You Give Up?"
 * Hal Crook – trombone on "How Can You Give Up?"
 * Mike Denneen – additional keyboards on "How Can You Give Up?"
 * Technical
 * Bruce Lampcov, Mike Denneen, Rhett Davies, Rob Jaczko, Steve Rinkoff - engineer
 * Neil Dorfsman, Rhett Davies, Rob Jaczko - mixing
 * Lara Rossignol - photography

Charts
Album – Billboard (United States)

Singles – Billboard (United States)

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Oswego River (New York)

The Oswego River is a river in upstate New York in the United States. It is the second-largest river (after the Niagara River) flowing into Lake Ontario. James Fenimore Cooper’s novel The Pathfinder, or The Inland Sea is set in the Oswego River valley.

The name Oswego is a Mohawk name that means "flowing out", or specifically, "small water flowing into that which is large".

Description
James Fenimore Cooper described the Oswego in these words: The Oswego is formed by the junction of the Oneida and the Onondaga, both of which flow from lakes; and it pursues its way, through a gently undulating country, some eight or ten miles, until it reaches the margin of a sort of natural terrace, down which it tumbles some ten or fifteen feet, to another level, across which it glides with the silent, stealthy progress of deep water, until it throws its tribute into the broad receptacle of the Ontario.

River course
The Oswego River starts at the confluence of the Oneida River (flowing from Oneida Lake) and the Seneca River (flowing from Seneca Lake, Cayuga Lake, and Montezuma Marsh). The river drains an area of 5122 sqmi, as large as the states of Rhode Island and Delaware together, comprising most of the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York.

At its mouth at Lake Ontario, the river divides the City of Oswego, just as it divides the City of Fulton 11 miles upstream.

Oswego Canal
Part of its length the Oswego Canal was built. The Oswego River also serves as a part of the New York State Canal System, providing a route from the Erie Canal to Lake Ontario. This section of the canal was completed in 1827, two years after completion of the Erie Canal. In 1917, as part of a general overhaul of the canal system, the Oswego Canal was deepened and refurbished. The canal is now 14 ft deep and has an overhead clearance of 20 ft.

Pollution
The Oswego River was listed as a Great Lakes Areas of Concern in The Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement between the United States and Canada until it was formally removed on July 21, 2006.

Sportfishing
The river is known for its steelhead run in the early spring, followed by a salmon run in early autumn. The river is stocked annually by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation with 140,000 Chinook salmon and 20,000 steelhead.

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Risa Junna

Risa Junna (純名りさ) is a Japanese actress, singer, and voice actress. She was part of Takarazuka Revue's Snow Troupe and Flower Troupe. During her time in the Revue, she specialized in female roles (musumeyaku). She was the musumeyaku top star from 1995 to 1996.

Career
Junna was born on March 15, 1971, in Minoh, Osaka, and grew up in the nearby Toyonaka. Her parents were both junior high school teachers. Her father taught English and her mother taught physical education.

In March 1988, she passed the audition for Takarazuka Music School and subsequently entered the school. She trained for two years and graduated at the top of her class. She joined the Takarazuka Revue in 1990. Her first stage was in Flower Troupe's The Rose of Versailles: Fersen. Due to her singing ability, she was chosen to be the etoile (the singer in the last scene). From then on she was part of the Snow Troupe.

In 1994, following encouragement from the troupe, she auditioned and was chosen to star in NHK's 51st asadora Piano. She took one year off from the revue for the drama. After returning in 1995, she transferred to the Flower Troupe. She made her top musumeyaku debut that same year, starring alongside Miki Maya in East of Eden/Dandyism! Her final stage was How to Succeed in 1996. Since her retirement, she has had success as an actress in television, film, and commercials.

In 2001, she starred alongside Anita Mui and Simon Yam in the 2001 Hong Kong film Midnight Fly. She also sang its theme song. The film was nominated for nine Golden Horse Awards (including Best Supporting Actress and Best Original Film Song for Junna) and won one for Best Original Film Song.

Albums

 * 1) [1995.09.21] Propose
 * 2) [2007.08.22] Misty Moon
 * 3) [2015.10.21] Silent Love (Anata o Omou 12 no Uta)

Singles

 * 1) [1994.08.21] "Pīka Pika"
 * 2) [1995.09.06] "Propose"

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lease/Option

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was

The website name is listed in the edit comments, Lease2Purchase.com. Looks like blatant spam to me. ClockworkTroll 02:58, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Same guy is continuing to spam the site with similar text dumps. I've listed them all as speedies. - Lucky 6.9 03:13, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I've deleted all the exact duplicates of this article. —Stormie 05:46, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure - the actual article has no advertising and provides useful and accurate information on what an Option is. 163.1.141.7
 * Sorry...anon votes don't count. - Lucky 6.9 03:48, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Says who?   —Joseph | Talk 05:37, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * Actually, policy is that Admins may ignore anon votes, not that anon votes automatically don't count - see Deletion guidelines for administrators —Stormie 05:46, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: It's just a c&p from something non-germane. Not encyclopedic. Geogre 04:53, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not encyclopedic.jni 05:05, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Err, dude, it was so easy to split, why the fuck would you want to delete this valuable information? *boggle* You should thank the guys from Lease2Purchase.com from allowing us to copy this information on the pedia instead of bashing em. Shame on you boy. The valuable info is now at real estate contract and lease purchase contract, it would be cool if you helped expanding the articles and adding references to them.   —Joseph | Talk 05:37, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep - this needs some serious cleanup, but the final paragraph can form a stubby article on Lease/Options, which I think deserves an article (and indeed, it was a redlink on List of real estate topics prior to this being created. If you think Lease purchase contract is a better title, make this a redirect. —Stormie 05:46, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Valid article as it stands. User:Joseph Dwayne needs to calm down though and not take the vfd personally.   — Gwalla | Talk 03:16, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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Category:Motivation

Motivation is a word used to refer to the reason or reasons for engaging in a particular behavior, especially human behavior as studied in psychology and neuropsychology.

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User talk:OBryant

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Pohang Steelers

The Pohang Steelers (Hangul: 포항 스틸러스) are a South Korean professional football club based in Pohang, North Gyeongsang Province that compete in the K League 1, the top flight of South Korean football. The Steelers were founded on 1 April 1973 as POSCO FC, named after the steel company POSCO, which still owns the club today. They are one of South Korea's most successful teams, having won the K League five times and the AFC Champions League three times.

History
The club was founded on 1 April 1973 as Pohang Iron & Steel Company FC, or simply POSCO FC. Initially a semi-professional club, they turned professional in the 1984 season and changed its name to POSCO Dolphins. A year later they renamed as the POSCO Atoms. In 1986 they won their first Championship, and enjoyed a great spell of domination in the league; between 1985 and 1998 they were continuously in the top four of the K League.

In 1995 the club was renamed again, becoming the Pohang Atoms. This name change was an attempt to further strengthen local ties with the region, and in 1997 they adopted their current name, the Pohang Steelers. The team won the Asian Champions Cup in 1997 and 1998.

In the 2000s, the club struggled near the bottom of the table, but bounced back to the forefront of South Korean football by winning the first stage of the 2004 K League Championship. The club qualified for the final Championship match of the 2004 season, but lost 4–3 on penalties to Suwon Samsung Bluewings.

In 2007, the club won the Championship play-off by beating Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma, who finished in first place in the regular season of the K League. Pohang won the first leg 3–1 at home, and then traveled to Seongnam for the second leg game, recording a 1–0 victory to seal a 4–1 aggregate triumph. The Steelers had ended the K League season in fifth place, but then defeated Gyeongnam FC, Ulsan Hyundai Horang-i, Suwon Samsung Bluewings and finally Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma in the play-offs to win the championship.

Pohang again made the play-offs in the 2008 season by finishing the season in fifth place, but were knocked out in their play-off game by Ulsan Hyundai after the penalty shoot-out. However, the club fared much better in the 2008 Korean FA Cup. After beating Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma in the quarter-finals, Pohang knocked out Daegu FC in the semi-finals and then defeated Gyeongnam FC in the final to ensure qualification for the 2009 AFC Champions League.

In the 2009 AFC Champions League, the Steelers defeated Umm-Salal of Qatar 4–1 on aggregate in the semi-finals to advance to their first ever AFC Champions League final. The Steelers defeated Saudi club Al-Ittihad 2–1 at the National Stadium in Tokyo, Japan to claim the title. For the 2009 K League season, Pohang once again qualified for the play-off phase of the league by finishing the regular season in second place, equal with FC Seoul on points, but ahead on goal difference. The Steelers had a bye to the semi-finals, but lost to Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma. Nonetheless, their regular season placing saw them qualify for the 2010 AFC Champions League Group stage.

Following the conclusion of the 2009 K League season, at the 2009 FIFA Club World Cup in December, the Steelers finished in third place after defeating Mexican side Atlante 4–3 on penalties.

Kits
In 1994, POSCO Atoms wore a green kit and a white kit with a multicoloured sun in the middle. In 1997, Pohang Steelers wore a white shirt with black stripes on the shoulders and black shorts. In 2000, the first kit consisted of a sky blue shirt and white shorts, while the away kit was a black and red hooped shirt with black shorts (similar to the current kit). In 2002 the kit was red with a black "V" on the chest.

League

 * K League 1
 * Winners (5): 1986, 1988, 1992, 2007, 2013
 * Runners-up (5): 1985, 1987, 1995, 2004, 2023
 * Korean National Semi-Professional Football League
 * Winners (5): 1975 Spring, 1981 Fall, 1982, 1986 Fall, 1988 Fall
 * Runners-up (2): 1977, 1989 Spring

Cups

 * FA Cup
 * Winners (5): 1996, 2008, 2012, 2013, 2023
 * Runners-up (3): 2001, 2002, 2007
 * League Cup
 * Winners (2): 1993, 2009
 * Runners-up (2): 1996, 1997s
 * National Football Championship
 * Runners-up (2): 1977, 1985
 * President's Cup
 * Winners (1): 1974
 * Runners-up (1): 1989

Continental

 * AFC Champions League
 * Winners (3): 1996–97, 1997–98, 2009
 * Runners-up (1): 2021
 * Asian Super Cup
 * Runners-up (2): 1997, 1998
 * A3 Champions Cup
 * Runners-up (1): 2005

Worldwide

 * FIFA Club World Cup
 * Third place (1): 2009
 * Afro-Asian Club Championship
 * Runners-up (2): 1997, 1998

Invitational

 * DCM Trophy
 * Winners (1): 1988
 * Runners-up (1): 1989
 * King's Cup
 * Runners-up (1): 1987

Domestic record

 * Key
 * Tms. = Number of teams
 * Pos. = Position in league

AFC Champions League record
All results list Pohang's goal tally first.

Managers

 * Names in italics indicates interim or caretaker manager

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Glod

Glod may refer to:

People

 * Glöð, a legendary queen recorded in Þorsteins saga Víkingssonar
 * Glod, a nickname bestowed upon Glenn Beck by Stephen Colbert
 * Glod Glodsson, a fictional character in Terry Pratchett's novel Soul Music
 * Desiree Glod (born 1982), volleyball player
 * Paul Glod (1919–2004), American football player and coach

Places in Romania

 * Glod, a village in Almașu Mare Commune, Alba County
 * Glod, Dâmboviţa, a village in Moroeni Commune, Dâmboviţa County
 * Glod, a village in Strâmtura Commune, Maramureș County
 * Glod, a village in Lapoș Commune, Prahova County
 * Glod, a village in Gâlgău Commune, Sălaj County
 * Glod River, a tributary of the river Vulcana
 * Glodu-Petcari, a village in Chiliile Commune, Buzău County

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Mazda Titan

The Mazda Titan is a commercial truck produced by the Japanese automaker Mazda since 1971. From the fourth generation onwards, the vehicle had become a rebadged Isuzu Elf truck.

Predecessor
Mazda's original entry into the mid-sized Light mini truck class was the Mazda E2000 TF 2FAC in January 1964. This, in turn had replaced the earlier D series. The E2000 came with a standard bed ("EVA12"), with a three-way dropside bed ("EVA12S"), and as a long-wheelbase dropside ("EVA32S"). The truck had an 81 PS, 1985 cc (VA) engine which had also been used in the earlier D2000. At the time of introduction, the production target was 1,900 units per month. In 1970 a version called the E2500 was added to the lineup. It was fitted with the Perkins-developed "XA", a 2522 to 4500 cc diesel engine which was rated at 77 PS. Its chassis code is "EXA".

First generation (1971–1980)

The first Titan was presented in 1971, as a successor to the two-ton Mazda E2000. The box-section chassis rails were unusual for the class. Receiving the chassis code "EXB", the tilt-cab Titan retained the 2.5-litre "XA" diesel engine of the earlier E2000 without any change. For heavier duty usage, there was also the XB-engined Titan T2700: a 2701 cc diesel version with four more horsepower (81 PS). A 2.0-litre petrol four cylinder engine was also available. In 1977, the Titan underwent a minor change and facelift. Along with a new grille and bumpers, the turn signals were bigger and more squared off and incorporated vents for the cabin. Most obviously, the old round "M" logo was replaced by the new corporate "MAZDA" logo.

The larger, 3.7-litre XC-engine also became available for heavier versions, rated at 100 PS. This generation Titan was also the first to provide the basis for the Australian-market 3-tonne truck badged "Ford Trader".

This generation had also been made under license by Kia, badged as Kia Titan when Mazda granted Kia the rights to manufacture it in South Korea., and was shared with a minibus called the Mazda Parkway.

Second generation (1980–1989)

The second generation was announced in October 1980. Engine capacity increased to 4052 cc with the introduction of the new, six-cylinder ZB diesel engine. 2.0, 2.5, and 3-liter four-cylinder models were also available. This model also received a dual range (ten-speed) transmission, marketed as the "Two Way Shift." In 1982 the second generation Mazda Parkway bus version was introduced, based on the new Titan.

May 1984: Minor change, with a new front grille. Japanese market models were now also compliant with the 1983 emissions regulations.

1987: Minor change. As part of the facelift, the four round headlights were changed to four square units of standard type. A DIN-standard audio space is provided.

The Mazda Titan also appeared in export markets as the Mazda T2000, T2500, T3000 or the Mazda T4100. It was also license built in India under Swaraj Mazda, beginning in 1985 (trial production) and 1986 (full production). The company was renamed SML Isuzu in 2010 and the truck is marketed under SMLI.

Third generation (1989–2000)

The third generation Titan was announced in 1989. The truck received all-new bodywork, albeit still rather similar looking. The biggest difference is that the side windows received a pronounced dip at the leading edge, to allow the driver better visibility. The "Titan" logos were changed to all-caps. The new Titan also received mudguards, with prominent "Titan" script. In 1992, the Titan underwent a minor facelift, softening the design somewhat.

In 1995, the Titan received another facelift although there were also some mechanical changes this time: To be compliant with the stricter 1994 emissions standards, Mazda had to replace the higher output engines with Isuzu's 4HF1 and 4HG1 engines. The Mazda logo was made considerably larger.

In October 1997, a third facelift was implemented. The front was rounded off, with the windscreen made to look larger by placing a piece of black plastic beneath it. The four square lamps were replaced by more irregularly shaped single units which wrap around the corners. The Titan logo was changed from red to white characters.

In May 1999, the 1998 emissions standards were met - except for the four-litre version, which did not become compliant until November.

In export markets, the Titan was sold as the Mazda T series and Ford Trader. Buyers had a choice of rear ends that included ute bed, tray top, and a box which included a hydraulic lifting tray. The choice of motor was either a four or six-cylinder diesel (some of which are of Perkins origin) or a petrol engine with either four or six cylinders.

Fourth generation (2000–2004)

The fourth generation Titan was launched on May 4, 2000.

On October 25, 2000, the 1-ton payload Titan Dash was launched, replacing the Bongo Brawny truck. In November, CNG powered versions were added to the range.

On June 24, 2004, the fifth generation of the Titan was launched, built by Isuzu (see below). The Titan (from 1.5- to 4-ton payload) became a rebadged Isuzu Elf. The 1-ton Titan Dash remained in production. In December, the Diesel versions adopted the Bongo's DPF-equipped 2.0 litre turbo-diesel engine, in order to meet new short-term emission regulations. A driver's seat airbag became standard equipment across the Titan Dash range.

In August 2007, Diesel versions became compliant with the new long-term emission regulations for compact vans and trucks with a loading capacity of 1 ton or less, due to changes in the compression ratio and DPF capacity. The Titan Dash was discontinued in 2010.

Fifth generation (2004–2007)

In June 2004, the lighter Titan Dash became the only truck to be built in-house by Mazda, as the fifth generation Titan was an OEM-supplied Isuzu Elf. The fourth generation Titan was the last 1.5-4t truck developed by Mazda, and saw an uncommonly short production run of only four years - the production life of a truck in the Japanese market usually being around 10 years.

The Isuzu-built Titan featured three Diesel options, 3.1 L, 4.8 L and 4.8 L turbo, in addition to LPG and CNG engines. 4-wheel drive versions and crew cabs were now also available.

Sixth generation (2007–2023)

In January 2007, the sixth generation of the Titan was launched for the Japanese market featuring a newly designed body, Mazda's auto start-stop system, a new range of engines and lighter body panels. The target sales volume was limited to 430 units per month.

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Talk:Voices Carry (album)

Producer
I've introduced a new statement in production that is sourced from AllMusic that states that the group were originally looking at a different producer. This shows the development of the album and it's the production history. Why is it being removed? Andrzejbanas (talk) 03:10, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Because it is too trivial to be worth mentioning in this encyclopedia article. Sourced to a single throwaway line that seems to be mostly about proving the reviewer's credentials. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 19:35, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * There's several articles where they discuss producers that were originally going to work on albums. Suicide: Alan Vega and Martin Rev and Are We Not Men? We Are Devo!, for example and they only has one source as well. if you can show/quote me the wiki rule we're breaking I'd like to hear it. Otherwise, I'm not really convinced by your argument. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:32, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

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Talk:Welcome Home ('Til Tuesday album)

This needs to be the disambiguation page. This album is not overwhelmingly more well known than the other possible uses for Welcome Home. I believe the "overwhelmingly" to be indisputable, and I would go so far as to argue that Welcome Home by Coheed and Cambria (featured on the video game Rock Band (video game) is probably more well known, as is "Weclome Home (Sanitarium)" by Metallica. I will come back later to see if there are valid arguments against this, after which I plan to name change this to something along the lines of "Welcome Home (Album)" and make Welcome Home the disambig.  Dachande (talk) 18:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:2000 Years: The Millennium Concert

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 * https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/2000-years-the-millennium-concert-98697/ is the corrected URL Newystats (talk) 12:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:52nd Street (album)

ABBA The Visitors was the first CD manufactured. 52nd Street was first one to be released with Sony CDP-101 player after Sept 1982
Philips celebrates 25th anniversary of the compact disc Thursday, August 16, 2007

World’s first CD manufactured at Philips factory near Hanover, Germany, on August 17, 1982 Philips and Sony co-developed CD – over 200 billion CDs sold in last 25 years CD ushered in shift from analogue to digital in the music industry, spawned new digital technologies, including CD-Rom and DVD

Amsterdam, The Netherlands – Exactly 25 years ago tomorrow, on August 17, 1982, Royal Philips Electronics (NYSE:PHG, AEX:PHI) manufactured the world’s first Compact Disc at a Philips factory in Langenhagen, just outside of Hanover, Germany.

The Philips factory in Germany, where the world’s first CD was pressed, belonged to Polygram – the recording company, which Philips owned at the time. The first CD to be manufactured at the plant was “The Visitors” by ABBA. By the time CDs were introduced on the market in November 1982, a catalogue of around 150 titles – mainly classical music – had been produced. The first CDs and CD players – including Philips’ CD100 – were introduced in Japan in November, followed by a US and European market introduction in March of 1983.

COMPACT DISC HISTORY ( FOR ARTICLE VERIFICATION SEE "COMPACT DISC- WIKIPEDIA")
In August 1982 the real pressing was ready to begin in the new factory, not far from the place where Emil Berliner had produced his first gramophone record 93 years earlier. By now, Deutsche Grammophon, Berliner's company and the publisher of the Strauss recording, had become a part of PolyGram. The first CD to be manufactured at the new factory was The Visitors (1981) by ABBA On Auguest 17, 1982 in West Germany.[10] The first album to be released on CD was Billy Joel's 52nd Street, that reached the market alongside Sony's CD player CDP-101 on October 1, 1982 in Japan. (PershinBoy)162.114.40.35 (talk) 14:20, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

 * This is a myth. 52nd Street was not the first commercially available CD; it was one of a batch of 50 titles simultaneously released on October 1, 1982 in Japan. It just happened to have the lowest catalog number -- 35DP 1 -- among the pop releases.  —Torc.  ( Talk. ) 04:57, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

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Nonsensical sentence
It was also the first ever music CD to be commercialized (source: http://web.archive.org/web/20080802133849/http://www.sony.net/Fun/SH/1-20/h5.html)

What does this even mean?220.240.153.58 (talk) 11:44, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

 * The "first CD" myth strikes again. 52nd Street was one of the first 50 CDs commercially released, not theeee first, regardless of how often that fact is falsely reported.  Here's a list of the first 50 commercial titles, all of which were released on October 1, 1982.  I would love to see this get killed forever, but it's probably going to get re-added every few months.

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Temporary protected status?
An anonymous user (or users) continually have been adding factually incorrect info to this page and other pages associated with Billy Joel for months now. Do any editors believe it might be helpful to give this page protected status temporarily to curb this behavior? Thanks!Jpcohen (talk) 15:11, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved Tiggerjay (talk) 06:10, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

An Innocent Man → An Innocent Man (album) – Even when the album is more popular than the film and the song, I'm not convinced that this is the primary topic. There are other topics with similar name with or without a definite or an indefinite article (A, An, or The, including Innocent Man (album). George Ho (talk) 09:04, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose First argument doesn't convince me, the song is from this album and it is not like a ...Baby One More Time case. The second is trivial, there is a difference between "A innocent man" [sic], "the innocent man" and "an innocent man". You speak English for God's sake, WP:PRECISION exists for those trivial cases. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  17:42, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - apart from An Innocent Man (song) An Innocent Man (film), print sources (books) often refer to "The Innocent Man album", this will only help the readers and harm no one. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:56, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * "this will only help the readers". I dare you to prove it. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  18:04, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

 * Oppose Note on disambiguation of term/alternatives seems sufficient to me.Jpcohen (talk) 03:12, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose. This appears to be the primary topic as we use the term. Andrewa (talk) 23:36, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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Status as final album
Please kindly do not edit the lead section to say this is his final album without a citation. I have been reverting edits that say that since like 2018; I don't even remember at this point. I don't know what he said at the time of the album's release, or has since then, but he is alive at the time of writing this statement and he can produce another album if he desires. As far as the public knows he is healthy and has not retired. Unless he or someone close to him or representing him confirms that he will never record again, do not change that part of the lead section, and even then, one must cite it. I have been watching this get inserted uncited literally for years now. Please don't change it without a reliable source. Thank you. The brave celery (talk) 00:08, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

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where was the cover photo taken?

Cove Neck, Long Island. Hg3300 (talk) 08:52, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Is cartoon reference significant enough to warrant adding to this article?
User Hg3300 added a reference to the album Glass Houses into this article which I removed. He wrote, "The album was referenced in the Fairly Oddparents movie, Channel Chasers. Mrs. Turner is about to give the key to a glass house to Joel, saying "Don't throw any stones," right before Timmy smashes it into a million pieces. He cites the transcript of the show and a cartoon of the Joel character, stating that the cartoon looks like Billy Joel.

I think this reference is extremely trivial and doesn't warrant being added to this article. It's cultural importance regarding the album in question is negligible as far as I can tell. But I would like to know if other editors out there disagree with me.Jpcohen (talk) 23:43, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

 * Well, it does show how culturally significant this album was. I mean, to be referenced in a cartoon, you must have done something right. Hg3300 (talk) 08:51, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

 * For the record, I'm not trying to create an edit war. Billy Joel and his album Glass Houses were clearly referenced in the cartoon. Perhaps this should be referenced on the Channel Chasers page instead? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hg3300 (talk • contribs) 09:05, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

 * It does sound like the kind of "cultural reference" that you mention would probably have more relevance on a page about the cartoon in question than it would to Billy Joel's Glass Houses album.Jpcohen (talk) 17:48, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * i have completed the move Hg3300 (talk) 18:27, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Personnel-link updates
Since there is no page for acoustic & electric pianos, I changed that to acoustic & electric pianos. I don't see why a user would add a link to a page that doesn't exist.--Kevjgav (talk) 17:45, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

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Drive-by genre warriors
There is no way this is a punk rock album, and one of the cited sources (allmusic) specifically says it isn't. It is a rock/pop album, no more no less. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 05:30, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Please note WP:EXPLICITGENRES. None of the cited sources explicitly say this is a punk rock album, and one of them specifically says it isn't. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 07:22, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

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