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User talk:Solipsist/archive2

Images
As a newbie I would like to ask your advice about obtaining images of paintings. I've seen Olga's Galery and http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/html WEB GALLERY OF ART as sources. Can we copy from these sites without a problem? Do we have to provide links on the pages of the painters? A second question: would you like the classification of art-periods like Category:Renaissance art to be as comprehensive as possible or would you prefer that only the most outstanding painters get these categories? Pethan 15:30, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * Well the short answer is that copyright on images is a bit of a mess. There is a fair bit of Wikipedia advice at Image_use_policy and Copyrights along with associated talk pages. The highlighted summary as I understand it is;

 * 1) Copyright rules vary around the world, but it is best to pay attention to the US copyright rules, because they are the most liberal and Wikipedias servers are in Florida
 * 2) Copyright lasts for 70 years following the death of original artist
 * 3) all images published in the United States before 1923 are now public domain. (US only)
 * 4) there can be various levels of copyright that apply to the same image. One for the original artist, and another for the photographer who photographed it; however
 * 5) a photograph (and by implication a scan) which just reproduces a painting, isn't a creative work in its own right and so can't be protected by copyright. The original painting still might be. (possibly US only)
 * 6) you often can't trust the copyright messages put on other websites, or indeed the lack of any copyright. They can copyright the design of the website and any original writing and photographs. But they often claim copyright on everything because they either can't be bothered noting all the exceptions or figure it is safer just to scare everyone off.
 * 7) there is also a particularly fuzzy rule about 'fair use' where you can essentialy break a copyright under certain conditions
 * 8) all these rules are open to interpretation and may not have been tested in a court of law.
 * So photos of Renaissance paintings are OK in the US, with this picture the photo may be copyright if published in the UK. Most modern paintings and later are probably still under copyright of the original artist.

 * I've not seen any discussion of whether a photograph of a sculpture is copyright or not. My (worthless) interpretation is that with this image, Moore's sculpture itself is clearly copyright of the Moore foundation and within 70 years of his death. This view of it and the lighting is a creative composition so I hold the copyright on the photograph, but I have licensed it under creative commons. A lot of enclosed galleries like to forbid photography because they are trying to prevent the release of images where they can't control the copyright and gain reproduction royalties. I would like to be able to show a picture of an early direct carved Henry Moore, but so far I haven't been able to get a photograph with clear copyright.

 * On the other points,
 * yes always put a link on the image page for where the image came from. That way people an check whether a copyright claim on the source is correct, or whether your interpretation is likely to be correct.
 * always add the appropriate copyright tag from Image_copyright_tags

 * I'm totally open on the categorisation of art-periods - please add to the discussion at Category_talk:Art. In particular it would be good to add some guidance on how to draw the boundaries for periods (dates etc) or add addition periods or sub periods if required . Similarly, selecting a range of artistic movements might be helpful. There is plenty to work from at Art history and linked pages.
 * I would have thought anyone where you can fairly say 'X is a Renaissance painter' should be in Category:Renaissance art, unless they can go in a more specific subcategory. Similarly an article on a Renaissance painting would go in there. The problems will be the people who bridge from one period to the next. -- Solipsist 17:17, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

copyrights
i am developing an email request letter to send to publishers asking to use 72 dpi scans from their books for wikipedia. the first place i sent one to sent me a reply that their permission office was closed for two weeks. There will be more attemps. Thanks for the Munson pics. The copyright for the shot of her looking out the window, for example, is held by Neal P. Graffy Photographic Collection, about whom I intend to learn more. Carptrash 20:56, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * As I understand it, as long as the photo was published in the US before 1923, its fair game and we don't need clearance or licensing. I don't have conclusive proof that this particular picture was published before 1923, but as it was taken in 1916-18 so most likely was, and I think we can wait for the original publishers to raise an objection.
 * You might also like to check Boilerplate_request_for_permission which already has some collaboratively developed some form letters/emails which might help. -- Solipsist 21:02, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

name that butte (redux)
Thanks for your help with identifying Monument Valley. I'm going to upload an annotated version, the work-in-progress version of which is at. Before I update it proper, I'd appreciate your comments. Thanks. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 19:57, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * Wow, that looks pretty good. I've visited the valley in a car, but really I don't know well enough to be sure your labelling is correct. I've a couple of other comments though;
 * the white line below Monument Pass, is that US 163
 * many guides mention a visitor centre in the Navajo National Park. If you can figure out its approximate possition, it would be worth marking as it appears to be a common starting point for many people.
 * Also the Fitzwilliam Museum article could use a nice picture, even one in the rain would do ;-) -- Solipsist 21:31, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * I've added it to Monument Valley, with US 163 noted as you suggest. I think the visitor centre isn't in the area of the photo (I can't see anything artificial looking, and nothing building-like appears on the myriad little fragments of USGS topo maps that I've sellotaped together).  I'll add a Fitzwilliam photo too, but it will be a rainy one. It always rains in Cambridge; it's like a soggy Narnia. -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 23:02, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * It looks good -- Solipsist 23:07, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Breughel....Breugel....
I defer to you on this one. I'm familiar with Breughel in a very general sense (I do love his work), and when I saw the question at the help desk, I noticed the questioner called him Breugel. I thought "hmmm, did I have the spelling wrong?" and checked the article...the title seemed to bear me out. So I thought I'd fix the captions while I was at it. It seems to me that it would be better for the article to call him "Pieter Breughel the Elder" for the sake of consistency with the title, but I do see your point about his name change. I haven't checked our practice on an article like Muhammad Ali to see how he's referred to, given his famous name change. If you think there is a useful distinction to be made there, by all means, revert my edits. :-) I just find it confusing to operate with two spellings for a last name within one article, but if it appears to be a conscious change on Pieter the Elder's part, and not merely a consequence of the loose attitude to spelling in that time period, then it does make sense.  Sorry to have caused the trouble, although of course any trouble I may cause is merely the chaos you choose to will within your universe of one, in which case perhaps no apology is necessary.  Peace. Jwrosenzweig 20:42, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Monopoly/ Chess
I am almost certain that chess is the most played game in the world. It would be highly difficult, if not impossible, to determine the number of chess boards sold in the world. Perhaps Guinness only counts those games under the control of individual companies. If, however, you deem fit, I would not object to reinstating the phrase "best selling game." -- Emsworth 20:43, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Andy Mabbett
From experience, I know that Andy Mabbett is a user who holds firm opinions and defends them vigorously, though not always through discussion. For example, he ignored comments on the talk page and arbitrarily reverted to his chosen version on Richard John Bingham, 7th Earl of Lucan, without so much as a reply to the comments of others. But at present, I advise you that your dispute with him is not personal: it only concerns a particular category. Therefore, I think that "Article content disputes" would be the correct venue for dispute resolution. "Comment about individual users" concerns general user conduct, rather than conduct relating to a specific article or category. Therefore, it would be, in my opinion, inappropriate to use the individual users section. If Mabbett still ignores consensus, one may personalise the dispute, moving either to "Comment about individual users" or to Mediation. -- Emsworth 14:01, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Art Categorisation (again)
After spending some wonderful time here, I have started to wonder about the fundamentals of art categorisation. One should start at the top, I think, to get it right. In the Category:Arts you find cinema, architecture etc. while in Category:Art painting, photography and others are located. These artforms should be on the same level, I think. So I am contemplating to propose reorganising Category:Arts so the different artforms, including Category:Literature are to be found there. Every artform can have roughly the same subcategorisation. I'm working on a scheme that can incorporate all the good subcategories that are in existence. Do you think that is too much to take on for a new user like me? Pethan 19:47, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * I've noticed you've been doing some good work on categorising the arts.

 * From what I can tell, Category:Arts is all artistic categories and Category:Art is more 'visual art'. On that basis, Cinema, Architecture, Literature and Visual Art/Category:Art are correctly placed under Category:Arts and Painting, Photography, Sculpture are correctly placed under Visual Art/Category:Art.

 * There is an argument for flattening the categories, but it is not to be taken lightly (ie. needs discussion on any pages you can get people to show an interest.) For example, at the moment Performance art should come under Category:Art with the visual arts, because that it where it came from. On the other hand it is not so far removed from Category:Dance which I think is over with Category:Theatre under Category:Arts.

 * On the whole, I am not too unhappy with the placement of any of the above mentioned categories. However, there are certainly several anomalous categories lying around. -- Solipsist 20:03, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * Could you agree with moving Category:Baroque art, Category:Gothic art and Category:Renaissance art to Category:Art history where Category:Contemporary art and Category:Modern art already are (or vice versa)? At least redundancies as with Category:Renaissance art should be solved. Pethan 20:27, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * Ahh now. Art periods and art movements, now that's a different can of worms. The problem there is that many of the periods and movements transition across Visual Art, Architecture, Music, Literature and more. Plus, they don't always correspond to the same dates. Minimalism is Art started well before Minimalism in Music, but it has hung around longer in Music. I've started a discussion about this at Category:Art, but it should probably be one level up at Category:Arts.

 * I've just been doing some categorising of artistic movements, and noticed that someone had split some of the movements by type, so we could have Minimalism (art)-Category:Art movements and Minimalism (music)-Category:Musical movements, both collected under Category:Cultural movements. Which shows promise for the trickier periods and movements. -- Solipsist 10:43, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Art is art
Art is art. Visual art is visual art. Category_talk:Art_movements: "If you want a list of visual art please call it [a list of] visual art." Right now the categorization indicates that music is not art. This doesn't seem like the best plan to me. Hyacinth 21:44, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * Unfortunately it is not as simple as that. Category:Art is not Category:Arts, the former is arguably more correctly Category:Visual art but no one has plucked up the courage to move it (plus it introduces trouble with the Category:Conceptual artists etc). There is some discussion on these sorts of categorisation problems starting at Category talk:Art (although now it is starting to include distinctions against Architecture and Music, it might be better to move some of the discussion to Category talk:Arts). -- Solipsist 10:42, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * Solipsist, has there been a decision made to move Category:Art into Category:Visual art or vice versa? I'm not sure what the outcome was on Category talk:Art. I have been working on cleaning up lots of these areas. There hasn't been a consensus to delete Category:Arts right? See User talk:Clubmarx for some problems I'm running into. Also, note, that Hyacinth is quoting himself above.  help! Clubmarx 18:18, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)

Architecture
I would really like some help on the Architecture front, would like to recategorise it under society or culture on the main page but have no idea how to go about it, the definition of architecture could also use a bit of life. My entry in Architectural History also seems a bit limp and abstract, any pointers?

 * Hello Chwe
 * Glad to help if I can. I'm not an expert in Architecture, but I certainly have an interest and have read a book or three. I hadn't really noticed that Architecture is under Technology on the Main Page Browse table. Obviously it is a topic with one foot in the Art camp and the other foot in the Technology and construction camp (to be honest I am not that concerned either way.) Moving it is likely to need some discussion.
 * One thing to support a move to Culture, is that the Library of Congress Classification for Architecture is at NA under Fine Arts. You might want to check some of the other classification systems listed on the main page. -- Solipsist

 * Anecdotally - a few years ago I was working in New York and noticed that the weekend edition of The New York Times has an 'Art and Architecture' section, which is appropriate for the city and contrasts nicely with London's The Times that has an 'Art and Literature' section.
 * I'm not exactly sure how you get the Main Page changed, but I am sure we can find out. Various bits of it are generated automatically. It will probably require the help of an admin of sysop editor. -- Solipsist 14:48, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * OK, I've done some looking around. How to edit the templates which build the Main Page is discussed at Editing_the_main_page. That shows that any discussion about changing the Browse section should be raised at Template talk:Wikipediatoc. -- Solipsist 15:01, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * I've started my proposals, thanks for the help. Chwe 21:59, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * ..and took matters into my own hands. Have moved the page but forgot to say so in the edit summary. Chwe 00:22, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Carnatic music
Hi. I heeded some suggestions on parentheses. Anything else I can do to make the page better?--Siva 02:07, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC) (I'll continue to comb through the page for literary faults.)

 * First impressions are good. Its an article that would be nice to get up to FAC status, if only to help address the perceived Western/US bias of the Main Page. It is still likely to be an uphill struggle, because by its very nature its an article that uses many terms that will be unfamiliar to western readers (technical articles can face the same barrier as you might have seen with DNA repair recently).
 * If you can find a public domain image that is relevant, that will be a big plus. The article is also likely to face objections that the Table of Contents is too long (although people argue about whether this is a fair objection). But for example sections such as The teaching of Carnatic music, could be correctly objected as not having enough content to split into two subsections. And blank sections such as Attitudes don't help.
 * If you can find an OGG format sample of some Carnatic music that would be great (even better if we had contrasting examples on the Hindustani_classical_music page.)
 * And of course, I suspect we can remove some more parentheses with a little restructuring. I'll try and find some time to look at it, but of course I don't have your knowledge of the subject. -- Solipsist 15:49, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

PigsOnTheWing Reverting
Hey man. I see you are also having, ahem, discussions with user PigsOnTheWing. He just doesn't want to discuss edits. I'm not sure what to say. I wouldn't be so concerned if going back through his talk page wasn't a litany of people complaining at unnecessary and strange categorizations and getting terse or strange answers, if any. Maybe you have some ideas. Sorry if this is not a forum for complaining. I'm trying not to escalate this largely irrelevant matter. MDCore 20:46, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * I agree with you in principle. I sought similar advice at User_talk:Lord_Emsworth and Emsworth's reply was valuable. From what I can see User:Pigsonthewing makes a large number of useful edits (although perhaps a significant fraction are just stubborn reverts). It may just be that he doesn't have the time to answer every objection. I am now starting to see a few replies to the discussions on artist categorisation issues.
 * It might still be an idea to canvas some of his other objectors on User_talk:Pigsonthewing and check out whether to list a request on Requests for comment under 'Comment about individual users'. Most of the problems listed there seem to be much more cut and dried, but Wikipedia is supposed to be built on consensus and PigsOnTheWing may be upsetting more people than he is helping.
 * At the end of the day accurate and useful information should persevere. -- Solipsist 21:54, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Art categories
Thanks for the link to Category talk:Art. I'm taking a wiki-break at the moment, but I'll try to catch up and join in when I'm back for real. --Zigger 17:46, 2004 Aug 19 (UTC)

 * Nay problem lad — I should probably take a Wiki-break myself. -- Solipsist 17:48, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Thanks!
I appreciate the fact that you asked me to step in on that edit war. Please don't hesitate to drop me a line if there's anything else that you fell I can help you with. - Lucky 6.9 00:18, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for your considerate and considered words. Regards, Ancheta Wis 12:53, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * added the latin Bushism about the New World order Ancheta Wis 23:33, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

David Hume
re: Hume - I still disagree with his placement on the atheist list, but those who are for it seem far more adament about it than me, so I'm not too inclined to pursue it anymore. Maybe there could be an "ambiguous" section on the page? -- 05:29, 23 Aug 2004 Simoes

 * Actually, that's a good idea. I'd been thinking along similar lines to separate the celebrity atheists. -- Solipsist 06:05, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/European Union Olympic medals count for 2004
You may be interested in a last-ditch attempt to save User:Pgreenfinch's endangered article European Union Olympic medals count for 2004 which is on a subpage page of VfD at Votes for deletion/European Union Olympic medals count for 2004. Because this is a subpage it may not be noticed by those scanning the regular VfD page. Recent votes to keep appear to be sock-puppets or people who have become users only to support this article. You may wish to add your vote or comments or both. Jallan 13:26, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Egyptian pyramids
Hi. Thanks for your feedback on the Egyptian pyramids article. I've changed the name as per your suggestion, and as soon as I figure out which copyright tag is appropriate I intend tagging the photographs associated with the article - I can't for the life of me see which tag is the right one for a "copyrighted, but owner says we can use it" situation. When I clean the article up a bit further I'll certainly put it up for peer review. I do however think it important to retain all the content within 1 article - as you identified in your comments, the strength of the article is its "compare & contrast" overview of a unique architectural phenomenon that evolved over a long period of time. --Gene_poole 04:03, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Howdy again. Concerning the copyright business on the photographs on Egyptian pyramids, the copyright owner basically said "no problemo" when I asked to use them; he didn't place any conditions on our use of the images, but asked nicely if we'd include links to his site. He did not specifically state any objection to their use by other third parties, and obviously the images themselves are already in the public domain. Would you read that as a "fair use" scenario? --Gene_poole 02:40, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

All my dead categories
Thanks for the message. I just want to ensure that a decent policy comes out of all this (if it hasn't already - I need to do seem reading on the various category pages, I've been offline a few days). Having now read the various discussions around GLBT etc I am now feeling a bit calmer: I am just miffed that I missed out on the chance to defend my babies.

I suppose it's just that I don't normally do things that rub people up the wrong way, and now here I am with 3 categories that people seem to feel are unacceptable. I hope I can chalk it up to categories being a fairly new phenomenon and perhaps I was slow to pick up how they should be used... but it is fairly embarrassing on the day Theresa Knott asks if I want to be nominated for adminship ;o) (I think I'll delay on that for a while...) --[[User:Bodnotbod| bodnotbod  »  .....TALK Q uietly  )  ]] 22:26, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

 * Well, I suppose I'll just have to laugh it off. I admit I am rather drawn to the seedy/morbid side of life.  To me, having a category of alcoholics was a way of me finding my spiritual brethren.  With the emphasis on spirit.  I was really hoping the category would take off and I'd find all these other  characters I wouldn't otherwise have known about.  I may go with a list/article thing - either starting or developing one. --[[User:Bodnotbod| bodnotbod  »  .....TALK Q uietly  )  ]] 22:58, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

Gmail invitation
Hi. Congratulations, you win a Gmail invite! Could you email me (through Wikipedia email, if you wish) your email address and first and last names? I need to input those to give you the invitation. I will then put through the invitation when the Gmail site starts working again (it is down at the moment). - Mark 08:07, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Lee Lawrie
I feel dreadful about the above article, I wish I had never listed it, I don't have a clue what to do with photographs, so I was not criticising your efforts, or a least I did not mean offence, just that poor old 'Carptrash' is going to wake up in America tomorrow morning, with everyone criticising his article and its all my fault - If I had a sword I would fall on it Giano 13:49, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Thankyou - people being nice makes me feel worse! Giano 14:07, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Gmail invite
Howdy. I just got some more invites in - do you still want one? blankfaze | (беседа!)  05:36, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Edit attribution
Hi Solipsist. Edits from 80.4.5.165 have now been reattributed to you. Regards  — Kate Turner | Talk 05:44, 2004 Sep 4 (UTC)

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User talk:Kylehamilton

Picture
I am sorry, but the image you uploaded, Image:Bad religion=greg graffin-1624.jpg, does not appear to be compatable with the GNU Free Documentation License. The source site states, "©2000-2004 chime interactive™. all rights reserved." --Slowking Man 08:00, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)

Image:Brooks Out Side.jpg
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Talk page blanking
Kylehamilton, it is considered bad form to blank to contents of your Talk page. The contents should be left intact so that other users may see any issues being discussed. This prevents them from having to cover the issue again or seeing any resolutions that have been reached. When a Talk page gets too long, it can be archived, but it shoud never be deleted permanently. This doesn't apply to vandalism, of course. Peace. JHMM13 (T | C)  06:31, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * (copied from my talk page)
 * I just figuard I should keep the page clean so it would be easyer for people to contact me, I didnt think about a probelm comeing back up thank you for the information --Kylehamilton 06:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, just giving you a heads up. If you'll notice, I made the same mistake early on, but I was more hot-headed about it. JHMM13 (T | C) [[Image:Flag of the United States.svg|25px| ]] [[Image:Flag of Germany.svg|25px|  ]] 06:35, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * If you haven't already discovered it on your own- you can archive your talk page, which lets you clear finished conversations out of the active talk space while still keeping them for future reference. Check out my talk page for an example, if you like. -FisherQueen (Talk) 22:52, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Kyle Hamilton (skateboarder)
I have placed a tag on the article Kyle Hamilton (skateboarder), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. I did this because the article seems to be a biographical account about a person, group of people, or band, but it does not indicate how or why he/she/they is/are notable. If you can indicate why Kyle Hamilton (skateboarder) is really notable, I advise you to edit the article promptly, and also put a note on Talk:Kyle Hamilton (skateboarder). Any admin should check for such edits before deleting the article. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. You might also want to read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 7 under Articles. JHMM13 (T | C)  06:33, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Another Question (response)
Thank you for your speedy response. -- HK  15:44, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your answers
I really appreciate your taking the time to answer my questions so carefully.

Please let me just make one suggestion: Do you have an editor with a spell checker that you can select all/copy/switch to editor/select all/paste/edit/select all/copy/switch to browser/paste with? You misspelled "Strong" by omitting the "g". The substance of your answers was great, though.

The only other thing is that the proposed Code of Conduct has some ambiguity in it. The part with the three Latin terms is followed by a section which I think means "the three sections above are to be ignored" so I guess that's a choice that the most careful candidates might want to mention which of the three Latin-termed sections they do or do not agree with. Please let me know if that doesn't make sense; if it does, and you feel like elaborating in that direction, you have my permission to edit your answers directly on my talk page.

Thanks again for your careful decision-making. If elected, it will serve you well. —James S. 01:42, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Arbcom candidate userbox
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 * User arbcom nom

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WikiProject Filmmaking changes
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Oxnard Airport edits
I see you made edits to Oxnard_Airport on July 2 2006. Some of the addition you ripped from, violating copyright. You also made a comment about the airport having a cat named Mindie. Can you explain where you got that information? Thanks, Doctormatt 18:45, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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Garech Browne

Garech Domnagh Browne (25 June 1939 – 10 March 2018) was an Irish art collector and a notable patron of Irish arts, traditional Irish music in particular. He was often known by a Gaelic translation of his English name, Garech de Brún, or alternatively Garech a Brún, especially in Ireland.

Family
Browne was the eldest of the three sons of the 4th Baron Oranmore and Browne and his second wife, Oonagh, daughter of The Hon. Ernest Guinness, the second son of the 1st Earl of Iveagh. Oonagh was a wealthy heiress to the Guinness fortune and the youngest of the three "Golden Guinness Girls". Garech's father, Lord Oranmore and Browne, had the rare distinction of sitting in the House of Lords for 72 years, until his death at the age of 100 in August 2002, without ever speaking in a debate.

As both his parents were married three times, Garech had two stepmothers and two stepfathers, as well as a number of older half-siblings. His only full brother, The Hon. Tara Browne, was a young London socialite whose death at the age of 21 in a car crash in London's West End helped inspire John Lennon when writing the song "A Day in the Life" with Paul McCartney. Garech was educated at Institut Le Rosey, Switzerland. Although a member of the extended Guinness family, he took no active part in its brewing business.

When in Ireland, Browne lived at Luggala, set deep in the Wicklow Mountains in County Wicklow. The house, which he inherited from his mother, has been variously described as a castle or hunting lodge of large proportions. In 2008, there was a major theft of silver and rare books from Luggala; previously, Browne had appointed as an adviser on the restoration of Luggala the architectural historian "Count" Randal MacDonnell, who called himself "The MacDonnell of the Glens" and formerly "Baron Randal MacDonnell of the Isles", a well-known eccentric fantasist. While MacDonnell was there, Browne noticed "the disappearance from the house of items of Georgian silver and other valuable chattels", resulting in a "blistering row" and MacDonnell's escape from what was called the "silver teapot affair" to Prague.

A 2012 book, Luggala Days, by Robert O'Byrne details both the history of Luggala and of Garech's life.

Browne once stated he would rather have not been born, calling it "frightful to bring anyone into this world".

Traditional Irish music
Browne had been a leading proponent for the revival and preservation of traditional Irish music, through his record label Claddagh Records which he founded with others in 1959. His former home, Woodtown Manor near Dublin, was for many years a welcoming place for Irish poets, writers and musicians. The folk-pop group Clannad made many recordings of their music there.

Garech was instrumental in the formation of the traditional Irish folk group The Chieftains. In 1962, after setting up Claddagh Records, he asked his friend, the famed uileann piper Paddy Moloney, to form a group for a one-off album. Moloney responded with the first line-up for the band, which went on to achieve international commercial success.

He was interviewed at length for the Grace Notes traditional music programme on RTÉ lyric fm on 18 March 2010.

Art patron
Garech was a friend and patron of the artist Francis Bacon, and in January 2017 was featured in the BBC documentary Francis Bacon: A Brush with Violence.

Marriage
In 1981, Browne married HH Princess Harshad Purna Devi Jadeja of Morvi in Bombay (now Mumbai). Irish Independent  16 September  2018 Purna was the only child of HH Sri Mahendra Sinhji, Maharaja of Morvi (1918-57) and his wife HH The Maharani Sri Vijay Kuverba

Death
Browne died in London, on 10 March 2018, aged 78.

In his will and testament, he bequeathed to the city of Galway the granite remains of a medieval "bow gate." The location of this gate, which had otherwise gone unmentioned by Browne, remained a mystery for over a year following his death. It was discovered on the grounds of the Luggala estate in 2019. According to a Galway historian, the gate may have formed part of the city's defences in the 17th century, and was later removed from the city by Browne's direct ancestor and nobleman of Galway, Lord Oranmore and Browne, when it was probably taken to the Browne family home at Castle MacGarrett, just outside Claremorris in County Mayo. Their mid-1600s ancestor Geoffrey Browne (MP) (d. 1668) may well have bought the gateway from the city. The gate was one of a number of items left to the Irish State by Browne; another item was his collection of carriages.

In 2022 his library of 20,000 books and manuscripts was placed by his family on a long-term loan to the OPW at Farmleigh.

Portraits
Portraits of Garech and photos of Luggala were published by Vanity Fair in January 2008.

A portrait of Browne as a boy, painted at Luggala by Lucian Freud, was sold in March 2019 for €6.7m.

Garech Browne and the Luggala Estate feature in the 1991 film I Dreamt I Woke Up by John Boorman (online).

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Claddagh Records

Claddagh Records is a record label, based in Dublin's Temple Bar area, founded in 1959 by Garech Browne and Ivor Browne. It specialises in Irish traditional music and spoken word. Garech had been taking lessons at the time from the master piper Leo Rowsome, who had made many recordings in the 1920s and 1930s with H.M.V. and Decca, was to be the first artist to record on the Claddagh label. Leo, on the first-ever Claddagh album "Rí na bPíobairí" (King of the Pipers), produced virtuoso uilleann piping. The second album released by Claddagh was The Chieftains' first recording who are most arguably well-known artists in their roster.

Some recorded poets reading their own works amongst whom were, Patrick Kavanagh, John Montague and a young Seamus Heaney. Liam O’Flaherty's 1981 record was the only one of him reading his own work recorded by Claddagh.

Browne, who died in 2018, was an Irish art collector, a notable patron of the Irish arts, traditional Irish music in particular. He is often known by his Irish name, Garech de Brún, or Garech a Brún, particularly in Ireland.

Ivor Browne is an Irish retired psychiatrist, author, former Chief Psychiatrist of the Eastern Health Board, and Professor emeritus of psychiatry at University College Dublin. He is known for his opposition to traditional psychiatry, and his skepticism about psychiatric drugs. Ivor Browne is a notable artist.

Claddagh artists

 * The Chieftains
 * Ronan Browne
 * Peadar O'Loughlin
 * Maeve Donnelly
 * Seamus Heaney
 * Liam O'Flynn
 * Tommy Potts
 * Bernadette Greevy
 * Derek Bell
 * Dolores Keane
 * John Doherty
 * Matt Molloy
 * Sean Keane
 * Rita Keane
 * Siobhán O'Brien
 * Len Graham
 * Paul O'Shaughnessy

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Wow, I'm amused that someone added random vandalization to my user page.

I'm afraid I really don't know what to put here right now. XD

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NSCR
Yet another incarnation of Custodial Rape (non-sexual), by the same author. JamesMLane 08:20, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Delete. Assuming that the decision on Custodial Rape (non-sexual) is delete, as seems likely, then will this then become a speedy? Any recreations after that (even if by different names) will be. Andrewa 09:54, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Duplication of an article that should (in my opinion) be deleted anyway, and definitely not the most notable use of the acronym NSCR. Average Earthman 12:02, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete for reason I gave above in Custodial Rape (non-sexual), add to that the egregiousness of multiple redundancies. Fire Star 12:59, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Duplicate, neologism, POV.   — Gwalla | Talk 19:00, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, for same reasons as before. -- Antaeus Feldspar 01:01, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete and block. Susvolans 15:58, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete as rapidly as possible. -- Jmabel 01:23, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)

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Piracy Deterrence and Education Act
What Wikipedia entries are not #16 - a news report. On 14 SEP I asked at Talk:Current events if a bill not yet approved could be considered a current event or if it should be sent to VfD as a news report. The talk page was archived with no response to the question, so I thought I'd bring it here. SWAdair | Talk 08:20, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * A notable proposal would merit an article even if not (yet) approved or already definitively rejected. For example, the article on healthcare reform mentions the Clinton bill, but a separate article on that bill would be justified.  (Similar, although not solely a matter of Congressional action, is the Equal Rights Amendment, properly given an article.)  Thousands of bills are introduced every year, though.  Most of them aren't notable unless enacted.  Deferring my vote on this particular article to see if someone can establish the bill's significance. JamesMLane 08:34, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * This article is an orphan. None of the three current versions of this bill are coming up in any of the articles or journals that I read (and, given the subjects, I would expect it to).  I have no evidence that this is an actively discussed topic.  Delete.  Rossami 17:12, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Suggestion: How's this for the beginning of a policy on this matter: if it's a Federal (or otherwise nation-wide) proposal that, if it passed, would have or have had a notable effect (such as Patriot II), then keep. Anything smaller, then delete. At the very least, it should state HOW it's meant to enhance and educate. ClockworkTroll 17:38, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I think that's too expansive. It wouldn't surprise me if some right-wing Congressman has introduced a bill to cut all income taxes 50%.  He knows it won't pass, indeed will never even get a committee hearing; he's just grandstanding to try to get a newspaper article depicting him as an opponent of high taxes.  It would meet your suggested criteria, though.  I don't know how to write a general guideline.  I think we just have to take it on a case-by-case basis.  A bill that made a less significant change in the tax laws, but that received serious attention before failing on a 250-180 vote, might merit an article. JamesMLane 19:25, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * You're probably right. I think we're up to it, though. ClockworkTroll 03:36, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Conversely, I can easily imagine a worthwhile article on (say) 20 years of failed attempts to get a gay rights bill through the legislature of a particular state. I don't think we can devise a hard-and-fast rule here, this sort of thing will always be a judgement call. (Neutral on this one). -- Jmabel
 * Delete. The bill just got out of committee.   — Gwalla | Talk 18:59, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Delete: News report/press release, and it's only a bill, sitting there on Capitol Hill. Geogre 16:50, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)


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