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Chalk Farm tube station

Chalk Farm is a London Underground station near Camden Town in the London Borough of Camden. It is on the Edgware branch of the Northern line between Belsize Park and Camden Town stations. For ticketing purposes, Chalk Farm falls in Travelcard Zone 2. With slightly under five million entries and exits in 2011, Chalk Farm is one of the busiest stations on the Edgware branch of the Northern line.

History
The station was opened on 22 June 1907 by the Charing Cross, Euston & Hampstead Railway (CCE&HR). Trains originally operated between Golders Green and Charing Cross, with extensions to Edgware and Kennington in 1923–24 and 1926, respectively. All trains ran via the Charing Cross branch. As part of a comprehensive signing scheme, the 'UndergrounD' lettering was added in 1908.

With the subsequent extension of the City and South London Railway (C&SLR) to Camden Town in 1924, the CCE&HR and C&SLR were joined, allowing through running on the Bank branch and service as far south as Clapham Common, extending to Morden in 1926.

Station layout
Chalk Farm station lies at the intersection of Chalk Farm Road, Haverstock Hill (the northern extension of Camden High Street) and Adelaide Road, which create an angular intersection that forms the centre of the neighbourhood of the same name.

Architecture
Chalk Farm's narrow, wedge-shaped station building gives it the longest frontage of any of the stations designed by architect Leslie Green for the three tube lines owned by the Underground Electric Railways Company of London and opened in 1906 and 1907. It also has the shallowest lift shafts of any Underground station (21 ft). Station refurbishment by Tube Lines was completed in 2005. The station is a Grade II listed building.

Connections
London Buses routes 1, 31, 393 and night routes N5, N28 and N31 serve the station.

In popular culture
London ska/pop band Madness posed outside of Chalk Farm tube station for the covers of their no. 2 UK hit album Absolutely and no. 3 UK single Baggy Trousers.

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

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Talk:The Numskulls

OK the discussion section could use some more editing, but I thought it captured the spirit of the strip very well. I'm curious to see if the the mentions of "metaphysic"s and "free will" will survive editing! --Cje 08:08, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

From my memory, Mal Judge gave up the Numskulls in the mid-70s. Tom Lavery drew it for most of the rest of the run, and gave the formerly bald Brainy his hair on the sides of his head. AndyB (talk) 18:31, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

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User talk:SWAdair/Archive3

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Re: Vandalism by User:209.158.180.130
That's funny, the thing about being from Edison. Edison isn't in Union County, and we only take students from in-county. That leaves me three options: either the person moved recently, the ETTC program (housed in the same building as us) has students who are doing this, or the person was throwing us off. One way or another, I suspect a few people because there's only a small group that doesn't like the Free Journal. Also, the vandalism to rammed earth leads me to a handful of people because of a certain assignment in a certain class. Thanks for the help, though, and I'll keep up my work hunting down the vandal in person. I'll have a few words for him.

Adminship
Salve, SWAdair! Back in September I was a candidate for adminship, but I withdrew and since then, I've been working away and have now decided to try again, nominating myself. Though you voted to oppose at that time, you seemed receptive to a future candidacy and, therefore, I'd appreciate your vote on the new candidacy at Requests for adminship/PedanticallySpeaking2. Ave atque vale! PedanticallySpeaking 19:16, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * Salve, SWAdair! I wanted to drop you a line to thank you for your support in my successful RFA candidacy. It was very gratifying to see the kind remarks posted in the debate.  Ave!  PedanticallySpeaking 17:30, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

Help fix a problem
O1thomas 15:41, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC) I think that I caused a problem on the page . Can you help restore it to its original form? O1thomas 22:48, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC) I have been stopped by slow server from updaating this request. I found that  had a malicious redirection dirctive which sent it to  which is not related to Religious Science. I then edited and deleted the redirection. Unfortunately I deleted the entire contents of the prior writing, not by me, and do not know how to restore the page before redirection. Thanks for the clarification, all is now well.O1thomas 01:09, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see the reason for the confusion. There were actually two articles -- Religious Science (which had actual content) and Religious science (which was a redirect).  The only difference in the names was the capitalization of "science."  You edited the second one, which had never been anything more than a redirect.  Don't worry, you didn't delete any history -- besides the redirect, there was never any history at that article name.  I've redirected the lower-case version to the upper-case article.  SWAdair | Talk  00:38, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Transwiki deletion of recipes
Could you please update links when you delete pages that are moved elsewhere? This way there won't be red links to pages where there used to be information. Thanks, Dori | Talk 19:11, Dec 12, 2004 (UTC)

Regretting my vote
I keep seeing you. We must be patrolling the same lists. You are doing so much tracking / reverting / warning of vandalism that I wish you had admin status. 'Tell you what... I see you leaving the final warning on several anon's talk pages. If you notice that someone has continued vandalizing and think they need to be blocked, you can either list them on ViP or you can just drop a link to their contributions on my talk page. You don't even have to explain what the link is for. I'll know, and I'll act on it. Work sometimes takes me away from the computer for a while, but I'll likely get to it faster than if you listed them on ViP. Just link -- I'll follow up for you. And next time, I'm voting Support, damnit! :-) SWAdair | Talk  05:21, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * You're too kind, I'll take you up on that offer. And you know you spend too much time on VfD when every time you see a boldface keep you think Hmm, I'd rather merge and redirect. --fvw *  05:24, 2004 Dec 13 (UTC)
 * LOL! SWAdair | Talk  05:27, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Experiment
Imteresting stuff! I admit you had me wondering where I had erred in the speedy delete conclusion. :^) Thanks for the heads-up.  Tagging and bagging continues...! - Lucky 6.9 17:37, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

CheeseDreams and Historicity of Jesus
Firstly, thanks for kind comments on my user page. They were totally appreciated... I'm in a much better state now so I'll be reverting back. It's good to know that people are very kind on this site though :-)

(note that I'm sending this message to a few people as a general call for help) Anyway, back to the point (I've posted this to WP:AN): Can I please get advise on how to deal with the extensive changes that CheeseDreams is making on this article? She's running roughshod over everyone on an extremely controversial article. It's already been stuffed up due to this user's edits and had to be protected by RickK (in it's highly POV and badly structured form: at one point there were essentially TWO articles on the one page). Now CheeseDreams is making a massive change without using the talk page, and it adding sections that don't even have any content in it! I've reverted back and have requested that she bring her changes to the talk page. I would appreciate advise on how to procede with this, I don't particularly want to engage in an edit war with her. - Ta bu shi da yu 13:58, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Mikhail Alekseev (copyvio)
Hi there, SWAdair! I can assure you that I've translated this article myself from the Great Soviet Encyclopedia (here's the link - http://encycl.yandex.ru/cgi-bin/art.pl?art=bse/00001/95700.htm&encpage=bse&mrkp=/yandbtm7%3Fq%3D1700253254%26p%3D10%26g%3D214%26d%3D0%26ag%3Denc_abc%26tg%3D1%26p0%3D10%26q0%3D1691586480%26d0%3D214%26script%3D/yandpage%253F). I had no knowledge whatsoever of the English version of this article in Britannica. KNewman 14:08, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

Deletion
Hi. By chance are you on? Goat shit/addendum2 could use a speedy delete. It's obvious vandalism. VFD 05:10, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * LOL! That was absolutely hilarious.  It was vandalism, all right -- by YOU!  Hehe... first, you do a double page-move vandalizing of Talk:Ambition (card game), then you contact an administrator to report yourself.  ROFL!  Surely you can't be Mike.  Even Mike has more sense than that.  Thanks for the laugh.  SWAdair | Talk  05:35, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Broken link
Your link to your personal policy on deletion on your user page is broken as of now. I'd be curious to read the emails, so I thought I'd let you know; hopefully you can find out what happened. JesseW 03:50, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know about the broken link. I'll keep checking that for a few days to see if it is a temporary propblem or if it might be permanent.  That link has worked for months so I doubt it is gone for good.  I'll drop you a line when it is working again.  Hmm... perhaps I should copy/paste that to a subpage here so I can link to it within Wikipedia.  SWAdair | Talk  04:50, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Felix sapiens
I can confirm that there is nothing in any episode of Red Dwarf nor the four books nor any of the official comics that would substantiate this users edit. 08:58, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)
 * Thank you for confirming my suspicions. I've reverted again.  SWAdair | Talk  09:04, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Copyright Violation in Julie Simone Picture and Article
I was not able to obtain copyright permission for the picture used, which is from www.juliesimone.com. Most of the article was copied from another biography, but I have attempted since to make some changes so that it reads differently.

Deontological Declination
Deontological Declination looks decidedly dodgy. I had trouble making much sense of it, but I've revised it to be a bit clearer (though I've had to guess at what it was trying to say. :-) I think we should probably just redirect it to deontology and avoid a VfD debate... Evercat 14:47, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Odd page
Found this while doing a cleanup project of the Template and MediaWiki namespaces -- Template:VfD- (and a redirect at MediaWiki:VfD-). Looked like a mis-type, and couldn't find any thing linking to it. If they're not needed, can you delete them both? Thanks. -- Netoholic @ 20:22, 2004 Dec 20 (UTC)
 * That's odd. I remember that debate (an article about a streaker), and there was much more than the one comment posted.  'Not sure how this came to be, maybe a mistake I made when VfD changed format.  Thank you for bringing it to my attention.  They're not linked, so I'll delete them.  SWAdair | Talk  04:03, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Help!
I seem to be having a bit of a problem with an abusive user, namely User:Fvw. This individual has taken it upon himself to be the ombudsman of what is and is not a speedy delete candidate. He's reverted my edits and left some snide remarks on my user page and the edit summaries. I've listed him on RfC as well. - Lucky 6.9 23:40, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Edit war will get me blocked?
My edits are kosher. Why don't you warn Jewbacca and SlimVirgin as they are violating three revert rule? --Wiesenthaler 05:50, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Neither of those users have violated the 3RR. You have, by creating a sockpuppet to continue reverting.  Don't try to deny it.  The editing pattern gives you away.  Anyone looking at the edit history would be justified in coming to that conclusion.  Wiesenthaler could be blocked at any time for violation of the 3RR and the burden of proof would be on you, not the blocking admin.  Please do discuss major changes before making them.  Please do not use this sockpuppet to evade the 3RR again.  There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with the content of an article.  How you are going about attempting to hijack the article is wrong.  If you would like to bring more attention to the article, you may want to consider listing it at Requests for comment.  SWAdair | Talk  05:56, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * You are very very wrong sir. I am not in violation of the three revert rule and your pattern analysis is extremely poor. Jewbacca has violated the three revert rule on AIPAC. You need glasses. --Wiesenthaler 06:00, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I wear contacts. :-)  I'm not tracking all edits made by all three of you, as I am actually trying to accomplish some other things as well.  I was looking only at the article that had been called to my attention -- Yasser Arafat.  You are correct that Jewbacca has reverted more than three times in 24 hours, as have you (although using two different usernames).  The policy requires that any blocks be applied to all parties that violate the 3RR.  I'm about to go on real-life patrol so I'll be away from the computer for a couple of hours.  I'll see you in two hours.  SWAdair | Talk  06:06, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I am not Goldberg. You need new contacts. --Wiesenthaler 06:13, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I am very careful not to exceed the 3rr when dealing with these vandals. Please provide the diff links to the more than 3 times in 24 hours I reverted Yasser Arafat that you claim, so I can clarify any misunderstanding.  Thank you.  Jewbacca 06:18, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * You are not dealing with a vandal. If you were, the three revert rule would not matter. You violated on AIPAC. Now you should be blocked. --Wiesenthaler 06:22, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Nor have I violated it on AIPAC. Jewbacca 06:23, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

 * Read it and weep. Four reverts in less than five hours. Partial reverts count as you well know. You should be blocked for this violation.    --Wiesenthaler 06:28, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * The last edit you cite was the removal of an external link to balance the content of the external links proportionally. Not a revert.  Jewbacca 06:29, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

 * Partial reverts also count under the three revert rule. This rule also applies to you, Jewbacca. --Wiesenthaler 06:36, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Stephen, as you are an admin, are you able to do anything to stop Wiesenthaler? He's deleted large sections of Yasser Arafat several times (it was properly referenced information), and has left a list of very offensive anti-Semitic terms on the List of ethnic slurs page, cleverly defending his actions by saying this is the place for them. He also, together with Goldberg (which seem clearly to be the same person), violated the 3RR rule on Yasser Arafat. By the way, I'm not sure what you meant by me vandalising his User page. If you meant my reply to him, I put that on his User page in error, and have therefore now moved it to his Talk page. Best, Slim 06:03, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

 * It's not "cleverly defending." My edits are legitimate. It's you who is improperly persecuting because you are personally offended. You do the same thing on Yasser Arafat and AIPAC. You make biased edits based on your ethnic identitification with Jews and Zionists. You should be banned for POV edit warring. --Wiesenthaler 06:13, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Stephen, Jewbacca reverted only three times at Yasser Arafat while Wiesenthaler/Goldberg reverted five times. Here is the page history. Slim 06:15, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

 * Except that I am not Goldberg as you are falsely accusing me. How many times did you and Jewbacca revert? Are you sockpuppets? --Wiesenthaler 06:20, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * User:Goldberg -- newly created account, 28 edits total, showed obvious prior knowledge of editing Wikipedia. Edited Yasser Arafat, AIPAC, ViP and certain talk pages.  Stopped editing at 20:30 hours, 20 DEC 04 after reaching the three revert limit on targeted articles.
 * Compare with...
 * User:Wiesenthaler -- newly created account, first edit at 20:59 hours, 20 DEC 04. Showed obvious prior knowledge of editing Wikipedia.  Edited List of ethnic slurs, Yasser Arafat, AIPAC, ViP and the same certain talk pages.  Following same edit pattern as User:Goldberg.
 * No, Wiesenthaler is not a sockpuppet of Goldberg. They are both sockpuppets, of someone who is familiar with Wikipedia and is likely a registered user.  I am certain enough of it that if these two accounts are used again to violate the 3RR, both accounts will be blocked.  SWAdair | Talk  08:25, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * You are just plain wrong. I am not Goldberg nor am I a sockpuppet of the person who is controlling Goldberg, as you have repeatedly and falsely accused me. Your edit analysis leaves a great deal to be desired and you are violating the "assume good faith" rule. I resent the accusation and your threats. --Wiesenthaler 18:56, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * See also: Wikipuppets. Please update this page if you can make it more accurate. --Viriditas  | Talk 11:08, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

More Deontological Declination

 * I'll trust your judgement on the matter.

I'm not sure you should, actually - it might possibly be dangerously close to original research, I think. I can't say for sure whether this sort of thinking has actually been seriously suggested anywhere, though I recall having similar thoughts a few years ago when I was studying philosophy...

 * That is so far outside my knowledge base I couldn't make heads or tails of it.

Does it make any more sense now? :-) Evercat 21:05, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Yes, your cleanup really helped. Now this armchair philosopher can understand what it is about.  :-)  Since it is linked from Deontology, others interested in the field will eventually find it.  We'll see if it stands the test of time as an article.  SWAdair | Talk  03:57, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

So SWAdair, what does your edit analysis tells you?
Looks like a sockpuppet evading 3RR to me. --Wiesenthaler 06:52, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * That's interesting. Are you saying you believe that Slim is a sockpuppet of someone else who recently edited that article?  Even a cursory examination of the edit histories over the last couple of days shows that Slim is not a sockpuppet of either Jewbacca or Jayjg.  SWAdair | Talk  09:03, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * No, I'm talking about sockpuppet User:Sheaner, probably User:Viriditas who is also User:Nasrallah vandalizing my User page. If you block any of them, they will all probably be blocked. I can't get the diff to work but this is the History.

06:21, 22 Dec 2004 Sheaner m (Shame on you Alby, using a sockpuppet for an edit war) --Wiesenthaler 16:26, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Wishing you the best
Hey man, I see you added your picture in your user page. I'm just dropping you this note to wish you a very Happy Holiday and I hope that this New Year brings you and your loved ones happiness and lots of joy. Your friend Tony the Marine

Common practice
Is it also common practice for users to retain copies of deleted material for the sole purpose of trolling other users? That is what is happening. I am appalled you would support that. As the "victim" of a failed RfC, I should not have to fight so hard to have that frivilous allegation deleted according to procedure. -- Netoholic @ 05:30, 2004 Dec 25 (UTC)
 * I agree with you. I really do.  Remember, I'm the one who spoke up on the VfU and said "Keep deleted."  At the time of the VfU, I didn't even know these records existed.  It would be fruitless, though, to Speedy those user subpages.  They would simply be undeleted for being out-of-process deletions.  I personally believe that uncertified RfCs should be deleted and the slate wiped clean -- that's why the policy calls for it.  However, there is very well established precedent allowing users to keep records of just about anything in a subpage of their user space.  There's no way around it.  If you want those deleted, you're going to have to take it through VfD, which of course drags the whole thing back into the public eye.  If you can convince someone to Speedy them, *I* won't undelete them, but you can be sure someone will.  SWAdair | Talk  05:49, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I don't agree. Vacuum only gave up on the VfU (after quite a few people said it should stay deleted) because he knew he had this backup.  Isn't it MUCH better for it be deleted, and he have to provide compelling reason for undeleting it?   He keeps it only to troll me, even adding it to his User:Vacuum user page. -- Netoholic @ 05:52, 2004 Dec 25 (UTC)
 * The RfC process is to delete uncertified pages. This is no different, I don't care that he tried to do an end run around that process by "safeguarding" them in his user space. I document things to, but I do it by copying them off-site.  You made one point that is important - going through VfD drags the whole thing back into the public eye, feeding this troll.  You can at least do the service of restoring my  tags. -- Netoholic @ 06:08, 2004 Dec 25 (UTC)

This is not about it being a CSD.... This is about admins not willing to follow the process and protection written into Requests for comments - " If the listing is not certified within 48 hours of listing, it will be deleted". It took two days for someone to get around to deleting it in the first place, and now this. Don't get involved anymore, and don't ask for my help, for anything. -- Netoholic @ 07:49, 2004 Dec 25 (UTC)

 * I am not willing to accept that it is my name that has to be dragged back through the muck, nor that I have to be the one that "sets precedent". That excercise will be flawed because some people will vote either against me or vote based on the content of the RfC, not just the concept of people copying off dead RfCs' . These users are making copies in defiance of the consensus which established the current procedure which says these are deleted. Why ignore that consensus?  I only wish I was the only one who this is being done to, and it is a horrible activity.  Vacuum should be the one to explain why he must maintain this copy, or else every RfC which fails is going to end up this way, and the deletion process is dead.  -- Netoholic @ 08:14, 2004 Dec 25 (UTC)

I believe you agree with me... what I am confused with is why you keep calling these "speedy deletes". These went through the process, and coming out the end, they are uncertified and should be deleted according to the steps described on WP:RFC. There is nothing "speedy" about it - it is simply the next step which is documented. -- Netoholic @ 08:34, 2004 Dec 25 (UTC)

A related vote in progress - Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/User:Amgine/Maureen's RfC -- Netoholic @ 07:56, 2004 Dec 28 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I have voted to delete, as it is an inappropriate use of user space -- an attempt to circumvent Wikipedia policy. SWAdair | Talk 09:17, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Answer
NO!!!
 * LOL! For anyone interested, see User talk:68.23.101.16.  :-)  SWAdair | Talk  03:22, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * YOL (yawning out loud), actually. Let him have fun till he gets bored and goes to bed or does something really daft, and then let's clear up the mess. In the meantime, PDFTT. -- Hoary 03:29, 2004 Dec 26 (UTC)

Rachael Yamagata
Mostly I didn't remember for certain if 'blanked by someone else' was as speediable as 'blanked by original contrib', and if and how it being a copyvio might effect the answer, but at the moment didn't feel I had time to look it up. I have, on a few occasions, when in doubt, just tagged them, and figured someone more certain would either remove the tag, or delete the item in question. Niteowlneils 06:39, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

CSD#2
Hello. Since you disagreed that copyvio-blanked-by-author qualifies as a test page under the current CSD criteria, I wanted to explain my reasoning. I really think it does qualify according to current criteria. Here's why: Someone comes across Wikipedia for the first time. They see these notices that they can edit any page or even create an article. They're thinking "Can I really create a page here? Do they really let just anyone do that?" So they go to one of the last web pages they were looking at, or pull up one of their bookmarked pages or whatever. They copy that page, paste it into Wikipedia and click save. "What do you know? I really did just create an article." A minute or two later, or even an hour or two later, they realize what they did and then try to delete it -- only they can't. The only way they can see to get rid of it is to blank it. "Maybe that's all it takes to delete an article." The entire purpose of pasting the material from another website was to see if they really could create an article. When I see copyvio that was subsequently blanked by the author, without first being tagged as copyvio, I assume that is what happened. It makes no sense to post copyrighted material, then blank it, unless the purpose of the original post was a test. SWAdair | Talk 07:12, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I see where you're coming from, but I'm afraid once you start trying to interpret "what they must have thought" as justifcation for speedy deletion it becomes a slippery slope. I'd be happy to have copy-of-webpage-followed-by-blanking become a CSD, but I'm not comfortable with "it must have been a test, because…" justifications. --fvw *  13:26, 2004 Dec 27 (UTC)

Could you please explain the reason why you have deleted Temporal Games?
Greetings!

I don't understand why you called Temporal Games page a spam? It was a page about a game development company, which work on mostly RPG projects, I don't see any spam here. As there are pages devoted to other gamedev teams like Akkela, Bethesda, Blizzard why there can't be a page of Temporal Games?

P.S.

I respect your work very much, but still I disagree with your deletion. If there is not so much info on the page, I may add more.

Thanks.

 * Thank you for your kind question. I deleted the article as spam because it was basically an advertisement, promoting the company and the demo it is working on.  In typical promotional style, it even spoke in the first person "Our current development project..."  It appeared as if there was no attempt to provide any information on why the company is notable, but only an attempt to promote the company and get people to click on the external link (i.e. spam).  Together with The Tales of Walenir, which began "Temporal Games announces the debut project... The Tales of Walenir", it appeared that these two articles were created, not because either is notable, but in order to use Wikipedia to advertise.  Articles about notable companies or products are eagerly welcomed here, but articles created to promote a company or product that is not yet notable are considered spam.  SWAdair | Talk  09:38, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * RE: Ok, thanks much for an explanation... I was really very busy doing it, so just copied the text from the web-page. I will write a normal text and then post it. Happy New Year! And thanks again.

 * Ah, that explains why it sounded like promotional material. It was.  LOL!  Ok, drop me a line when you've re-written it.  I would like to see it, and not to delete it this time.  :-)  Happy New Year!  SWAdair | Talk  10:47, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Re: Formatting
Hi there. What people seem to do when they need another title in a series is tack the number onto the end of the whole title, so it would be Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Username2 or maybe Username 2 (with a space). I think pretty much anything will work OK. Hope this helps, & happy editing, Wile E. Heresiarch 05:15, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Glad you found an answer, or an answer found you. Happy edits. Hyacinth 21:16, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Little Help
I am going to take it your an admin, i was wonder if you could help me with the vandal 66.108.158.41, i have cleand up his stuff, just do what you need to. Also I added POV tag to American Civil War besed on edits and history, seems to be a sigificant bias, just checking if i am cool with doing that. Thanks. --Boothy443 07:26, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * N/p figure i'll do what i can to help.--Boothy443 07:37, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * It's the least that i can do, considering i dont work (long story), as for the POV, i hope that you see where i am coming from, their seems to be in this article and other a extreme slavey bias, while completly ingnoring other issues, as for 172 no i havn't but i'll drop him a line.--Boothy443 07:59, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Re: VfD
Hi! Thanks for pointing out my mistake. I'll go back to the pages I tagged for VfD and list them on the right page, following the guidelines. JoaoRicardo 00:00, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Gangtok
Hi. While going through Gangtok's history I saw that you had deleted the page (Dec 28) which featured some anon's edit. Well, since I was in the town recently, I have now constructed this page from scratch. It would be nice if you could have a look at the page now to see how the article has matured. Regards, Nichalp 20:54, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC)

Response to message
Thank you for your message. Best case scenario would be if you restored it to the version it was before someone reverted my first deletion.

Indeed I am not missing, nor have I claimed to have left...I frankly find other admins screwing around with what I choose to do with my talk page odd. But if there is some guideline (which is what wikipolicy is supposed to serve as) which someone wants to enforce thats fine.

In compliance with any such guideline I would like my page restored and the history to be as it was before the first person restored the entire history.

Also, I've seen you have similar political proclivities as me. One of the founders of modern libertarianism still does not have a page Isabel Paterson. Her work is referenced on various pages but no page exists. I may get around to creating it myself but could always use some help, thanks. Arm 23:16, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

VfD
Thanks Stephen. --Boothy443 11:24, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Cool cool, yeah i noticed that the serves have been really really buggy over the past couple weeks, seems to go along with the server and other upgrades, get to be a bit fustrating at times. --Boothy443 12:41, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Cookies
Aww! Sweet tooth treat from a sweet guy! :-) That's so...sweet! hah

Thank you very much, hon. Mike H 03:52, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC)

Dallas, Texas/Draft
No! Please don't delete! I'm still working on it but I'm swamped with other things right now. I don't understand why it's even tagged that way: it doesn't meet speedy criteria at all and why would anyone even care about deleting this? It's obviously still a work in progress! Yeesh! I've also left a comment with User talk:Velela. R ADICAL B ENDER ★  15:50, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC)

Committee to Protect Bloggers
Hi there, appreciated your welcome mssg, and your personal page...so I thought I'd ask for your two cents on the proposal to delete my entry of Committee to Protect Bloggers As you can see from the discussion on  I believe that the importance of the organization outweighs its newness, etc. I don't work with the group myself, I just think it's important. Anyway, your thoughts would be appreciated.

Wikitravel
Hey Steven, whats the status between wikitravel and this project, oh and btw i got you email and i have been on her longer, since November, but under a different user name. --User:Boothy443 | comhrÚ 10:54, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Humm, would be nice if we had a convention with them, would remidy a problem i have with some city articles, and stuff. As for the adding to my name, i am on "the list" which at the rate that it's moving means that some time next century i'll have my other articles.--User:Boothy443 | comhrÚ 11:07, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Searles Castle
Thanks for your edits - reads much smoother now. The castle managers are supportive and are sending some non-copyrighted pictures that I'll include when they show up. I'll also add some external links for additional historical context. hydnjo talk 20:53, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I need your help, my friend
How you been?, I need your help, I wrote an article about Wilkins Zambrana and some sneaky person went on and pasted an article about the same person under the title of Wilkins in violation of the copywright. The text was copied word for word from here. Could you help me out here? Tony the Marine

Thanks
Thank you buddy, for showing me the way. Take care, until next time! Tony the Marine

Thanks

 * ==Re: Thanks==

Ok thanks again. Muya 12:11, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * ==re: Thanks==

Text of the Attribution-ShareAlike License
Personally, I'd move it to Wikisource (I'm an admin there as well). I'm not sure if we have a section on copyright licenses (international relations is my area there), but it wouldn't surprise me if we did, and I don't think it's a bad idea. I'd be interested to know why you think it's not suitable, though. :)

In any case, it might be worth tossing it to us, and if the rest of the Wikisource community decides to get rid of it, then we can make the call. Ambi 12:47, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know...
...I'm not a blocking maven, I'm afraid. Dpbsmith (talk) 11:49, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
Both for your kind words and the support in my request for adminship! Refdoc 23:56, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Searles Castle FYI
This picture is the best I've been able to get so far (other better pics are too comercial). When the snow melts and the green comes back I'll go up and take some pictures myself (I live nearby). Also I'm trying to find more editorial material. hydnjo talk 23:45, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * :-)That's a wonderful picture. Thank you for remembering me, and please do remember me again when you get more pics.

 * The picture is not very representative of the grandeur of this piece of early 20th century Americana. I'll illustrate it better later. I'm glad someone else besides me is interested in this kind of stuff. hydnjo talk 04:41, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!
Just a quick "thank you" for voting me for admin. Now all I've got to do is find out how to use these worrying new powers... Watching and waiting, huh? Grutness|hello? 05:46, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism
Your page was vandalized by a page move vandalism. I have corrected that. -- AllyUnion (talk) 12:18, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Eh, the same vandal moved my page. No worries. -- AllyUnion (talk) 04:02, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

WB?
Havent seen you around for a while. --User:Boothy443 | comhrÚ 07:01, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Ahh is see, as for me, it keeps me busy, not like i have much else to do.--User:Boothy443 | comhrÚ 07:08, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user page. I appreciate it. — Knowledge Seeker দ (talk) 07:12, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
A quick thanks for voting me to adminship. utcursch 08:08, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)

vfd/delete
if you're going to go through and proactively change the submissions i made of multiple nodes for deletion, the least you could do is send me an email, ping me on irc, update my talk page, whatever. but just un-doing it and not saying anything is uncooperative and childish. Avriette 11:46, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * LOL! I absolutely love your edit summary.  :-)  Okay, I don't exactly see the adjectives "uncooperative" and "childish" as applicable, but I agree it would have been nice if I had left a message for you.  I do apologize for not taking the time to give you that courtesy.  To be honest, though, I hadn't realized I had changed more than one.  I recall your name from the Arbiter article, where I eventually changed it from Speedy to VfD, but I didn't realize I had changed any other tags you submitted.  I had to go through my contributions to find the other one.  I'm sorry.  If I had realized I was changing multiple submissions by the same person, I probably would have left you a note.  I didn't realize it.  BTW, I agree with you about the amount of trivia (I still use the word "fancruft") in Wikipedia.  I don't envy you the job of cleaning up the Care Bear situation.  Happy editing.  SWAdair | Talk  06:53, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * oh, i agree that fancruft is the right name for it. care bears are at the top of my list, but i think i'd like to throw myself on the star trek fan cruft too. every minor character to ever appear in star trek has their own page. cleaning that stuff up isn't hard, it's just a matter of convincing somebody (or groups of bodies) that a single page with sections for each minor character is just as effective as eight zillion pages of minor characters (or indeed MORE effective). some people just think that the wikipedia ought to include a definitive guide to each niche cultural item. and it isn't the case. i've got some others in mind. i suspect it will be an uphill battle. but i don't mind fighting it. when i have some "real content" to provide, i'll quit the sisyphus act, and contribute. until then, i'll just do the meta- thing. reorganize. appreciate the apology. look forward to working together with you. are you available on irc at all? i'm looking for some guidance in both wikipedia culture, and also for procedures (eg my confusion wrt delete and vfd). i only just recently learned about the four-tilde signature, and i've been doing this for close to a year. Avriette 15:18, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Replied at User talk:Avriette. SWAdair | Talk  03:54, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Moon landing
Stephen: Many thanks for fixing that redirect. I'm not finding the merging of the two articles as easy as I had imagined. The "Moon landing" article is fairly straight forward, but paring down the "Space race" article is tougher than I had thought. Your proposal on the quote sounds good to me, but I'm not clear on what Armstrong actually did say. Sunray 07:09, 2005 Mar 2 (UTC)

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Talk:Azaria Chamberlain

Not really a separate article
Does Azaria Chamberlain really have an existance outside of the disappearance? It would seem this should be WP:MERGE into the disappearance story, with a redirect. --Randal L. Schwartz 17:15, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

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Liederkranz cheese

Liederkranz is an American re-creation of Limburger cheese, made subtly different by the use of a different bacterial culture for smear-ripening. Liederkranz is a cow's milk cheese, with an edible pale yellow-orange tan crust, and a semisoft, pale interior with a mildly pungent flavor and distinct aroma that could become unpleasantly ammonia-like if aged incorrectly.

Liederkranz was created in 1891 by Emil Frey (1867–1951), a young Swiss cheesemaker in Monroe, New York, who later also created Velveeta there in 1923. Frey was apprenticed to Adolph Tode, who ran the Monroe Cheese Company, as well as a New York City delicatessen. They named the cheese after a local singing society, a Liederkranz Club ("singing circle"), perhaps the famous one in New York, or perhaps just on a whim for its Germanic sound.

Until the original line went out of production, the cheese was sold in small boxes, with perforations in the sides. The return of the product sees it wrapped in aroma-proof foil. It is very similar in flavor to the French cheese Époisses.

The Monroe Cheese Company, the original source of Liederkranz, passed to new ownership, but Emil Frey stayed on and followed Liederkranz production to Van Wert, Ohio, in 1926. In 1929, the company was sold to the Borden Company. Frey retired in 1938.

At the end of 1981, after a fire damaged its Van Wert plant, Borden terminated its natural cheese lines in favor of "processed cheese". A few months later the Fisher Cheese Company purchased the Van Wert plant and began to produce Liederkranz. In 1985, bacterial contamination of a batch of Liederkranz and several other cheeses induced Fisher to withdraw Liederkranz from the market, selling the franchise and the bacterial culture to Beatrice Foods (Beatrice has since been acquired by ConAgra) and the New Zealand Dairy Board. That was the last batch of Liederkranz to be made for 25 years.

In 2010, the cheese was reintroduced by DCI Cheese Company of Richfield, Washington County, Wisconsin, which had acquired the trademark and the cultures (whose survival had been doubted during Liederkranz's long absence from the market).

Liederkranz was the favorite cheese of poet W. H. Auden, having been recommended to him by T. S. Eliot.

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Talk:Correspondence theory of truth

Format
This really needs an advanced wikipedi-ite to edit and format — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.85.13.142 (talk) 02:16, 12 October 2004
 * Not advanced by any standards, but I did my best. Also, I may have replaced some iff with if, mistaking it for a typo. Please check and fix any mistakes I may have made. --Dangerous Angel 22:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

I've made two small changes to the lead paragraph
I've made two small changes to the lead paragraph. I broke up a long sentence into two smaller sentences. I then moved the first sentence after the second and reworded it a little to try and clarify the point it was making for the reader. This is my first edit so I hope that I did good and that I'm not over explaining myself!

Seferin 19:31, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

"the truthmaker principle"
Can someone please confirm if "the truthmaker principle" is the same as the "correspondence theory of truth"? If it is, please redirect any such searches to this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.196.154 (talk) 22:14, 10 September 2006

unsourced logic
I am pasting a big glob of content here from the article... it is not only unsourced, I believe it to violate WP:NOR.

A careful analysis of what Kant is saying here can help to explain why there are so many theories of truth on the contemporary scene. In other words, why would thinkers who examine the question of truth not be satisfied to rest with this very first theory that usually comes to mind?

The formulation of this thesis that is commonly taken up and debated within analytic philosophy and its successors is expressed in the form:

 * The proposition that P is true if and only if P corresponds with the facts.

So truth means correspondence with the facts. This is the traditional formulation of the theory. For example, it is true that some dogs bark if the proposition "Some dogs bark" corresponds with the fact that some dogs bark. For another example, the proposition that God exists is true if and only if the existence of God corresponds with the facts.

To get around this problem, we can easily see that in order for a proposition to be true according to the correspondence theory, there must exist some fact to which it corresponds: the proposition P has to correspond with the fact that P, if the proposition P is true. So, we can say that it is true that P if, and only if, there exists a fact that P. In this case, it is true that some dogs bark if, and only if, there exists a fact that some dogs bark.

 * The proposition that P is true iff it is a fact that P.

So the correspondence theory could be revised as:

 * P is true when it is a fact that P.

For example:

 * The proposition that dogs bark is true if it is a fact that some dogs bark.

 * The proposition that God exists is true if it is a fact that God exists.

 * The proposition that snow is white is true if it is a fact that snow is white.

This solves the problem of defining correspondence by stating that if there is a fact that P, then that fact corresponds with the proposition that P. Basically, "true proposition" means "factual proposition."

However, this reformulation of the theory faces now a different problem: what are facts, and what does it mean to say that facts exist, or that there is some alleged fact? The theory now has to give some definition of what facts are.

There are at least three different ways to reply to this objection. The first way is to offer a theory of what facts are, which philosophers in the twentieth century have attempted to do. For example, facts are basically combinations of objects together with their properties or relations; so the fact that Fido barks is the combination of an object (i.e., Fido) with one of Fido's properties (that he barks).

The second way to reply is to note that the fact that Fido barks is only one type of fact. There are other types of facts, which may be facts about all dogs, or about the relation of dogs and cats. More importantly, it is possible to specify and categorize all those different kinds of facts. Therefore, a fact exists if all of its component parts exist. For example, if Fido exists, and Fido's barking exists, then the Fido barks exists.

A third way is to declare something a fact when it can be measured as belonging to a defined set of attributes. Using Fido, we can make measurements that determine that sound is coming from the location of Fido's mouth; that his mouth and body are making particular motions; and that the audio wave form of the sound has particular characteristics. These measurements then would either meet or not meet the attributes required for belonging to the set of any and all barks. If belonging, then it is a fact that Fido barks. This is similar to the second way above--fact if component parts exist--except make measurement is substituted for observe exists and attributes are substituted for components.

Peace, MPS 03:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Crossing the road example
I'm don't feel I'm qualified to fix it, since I'm not even sure my point is valid, but for me the example of teaching a child to cross the road is not very persuasive. I don't think language or teaching has anything to do with it; this sort of judgment rests on some fairly old circuitry in the brain. In fact, most mammals and quite a few lower orders are capable of pretty similar behaviors -- although some don't seem to be very good at the "crossing the road" part, do they? Another example: have you ever considered the mechanics of a dog leaping up to grab a Frisbee(tm)? It actually requires some astonishingly sophisticated computing of fast-changing integrands and ... well, you get the idea, I hope. Kids, like all animals, know how to stay out of the way of an oncoming thing; all we teach them is to remember to do it. Or maybe I'm completely off-base. I dunno; one thing Wikipedia has taught me is that I'm no master logician. :) Eaglizard 05:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Plato equals empiricism equals correspondence???
Can't buy that Plato and Aristotle were sources of the correspondence theory of truth. Plato is taught as being the principal behind real objects being only hazy imperfect shadows of perfect concepts. Aristotle in turn is said to not have been concerned with testing his well-reasoned concepts against his surroundings. The churches support caused a stop in all science from 300 AD to Galileo disproofs in 1400 something. An early milestone is the Constantinean adoption of Christianity as a state religion, his closing of all classical Greek academies, and the killing of Hypatica by monks and the burning of the library in Alexandria. More interesting than philosophy is quantum physics, where logic can not reason its way out of the mysteries there. It's ironic that Nobel prize physicist Feynman's son became a philosopher. But this seems to be a dead discussion area. So guess am kicking in the sand to no avail. Idealist707 (talk) 16:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Objections
Those are really the only objections? How about the fallibility of a priori. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.16.113.3 (talk) 20:36, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Clarity
Can I beg for this vital page be more understandable to the layperson, specifically non philosophy majors? I have read this multiple times without being able to really understand the concept. Here are some ideas on how to improve it:

 * Give example of an actual observation and reality confirming to a Correspondence Theory of Truth.
 * Propose a philosophical conundrum that is being addressed or answered
 * Perhaps explain the Theory by describing one it therefore is NOT. As described, I struggle to understand how the Correspondence Theory is not possible.
 * Also, explanations of alternatives to the Correspondence Theory would be helpful - as is done in the Stanford Encyclopedia entry.

IntangibleTruth (talk) 06:27, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Bert Newton

Illness
Hello, Not sure if it should be added to the article, personal life section for example, but on 17 June 2011 it was reported (on Channel 7 news) that Bert Newton was "seriouslly ill" and had been admitted to hospital with pneumonia, which he apparently contracted from his grand-daughter. Should I add it? CBJVS (talk) 07:22, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Untitled
Newton at Channel 7 This article fails to mention Bert working at channel 7. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.138.69 (talk) 11:1 7, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Folding IMT into the Don Lane Show is wrong
In my very humble opinion, Newton's work on IMT with Kennedy deserves much better than just folding it all into "Graham Kennedy & Don Lane". These were totally different and distinct phases in his career.

Oh, and Stuart mcmillen "I added Bert to the List of toupee wearers, as he is well-known to wear a toupee". UTTERLY WRONG. Bert didn't wear a toupee. He DID have a hair transplant, and joked about it several million times on TV and radio.

Mike Hamilton

Moonface was labelled by Don Lane. It's well documented.

Possible Wiki Links
I am currently testing an automated Wikipedia link suggester. Ran it on this article, here are the results:

 * Can link Australian television: ...g-running shows since the early days of Australian television in 1959....
 * Can link Australian films: ...n actor and has appeared in a number of Australian films and television dramas....

Notes: The article text has not been changed in any way; Some of these links may be wrong, some may be right; You can leave positive feedback or negative feedback; Please feel free to delete this section from the talk page. -- Nickj 08:37, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

"I like the boy"
Is there any merit in adding some notable things such as when Bert referred to, IIRC, Muhammed Ali, as "the boy"? Confusing Manifestation 13:34, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

"Bert Photo"
Can we update the photo of Bert Newton its at least 2 years out of date if not more. Mike 04:51, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Added New Photo Mike 06:45, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Probs
The prob I had was it was already there and you addition is/was POV and not needed it was fine as it was. - Mike Beckham 03:43, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Toupee
I added Bert to the List of toupee wearers, as he is well-known to wear a toupee, often including it (or mention of it) in his comedy routines. Stuart mcmillen 01:49, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

The Australian equivalent of the Emmies
Do the Emmies (is it spelled that way?) need to be mentioned here? If an American actor wins an Emmy, does his Wikipedia entry say that the Emmies are the US equivalent of the Logies? Can this be taken out?

Television career
I'm trying to restructure this but this section is seriously lacking citations and any sort of dates...it would be easier to structure in some sort of chronological order. Michellecrisp 12:45, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Structure
This page reads too much like a "This is your life" special. We should turn it into more of a proper encyclopedia article --Coin945 (talk) 15:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree. It should be made into a more proper article, rather than this list of shows he has done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yellow sock (talk • contribs) 03:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Australian art

Photography
Added a link to Bill Henson - there's already an article about him so a link seems like a good idea. Maybe there should be a sub-section or even an article on Australian photogrpahers, but I don't think I'm the one to do it.PiCo 02:01, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

List of Australian artists
There are lists of American and other artists and writers, so how about a List of Ausrtalian Artists? It would include the present list of wdrxqARMFGKJMRLGVMCM VVMMM Cyet. Cfitzart 06:44, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Don't we already have categories for this purpose? --Robert Merkel 13:33, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Do we? Show me where to find them and what I should do about them. Anyway, I've added a section titled List of Australian Artists, which will bring together all the existing Aust artists and provide stubs for further contribs. PiCo 13:41, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Category:Australian artists and its subcategories. You might want to have a look at Category for details on how to use the category system.  Great to see another contributor on Australian art!  --Robert Merkel 13:58, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Robert and Cfitzart. I see we have Australian artists as a category at the bottom of the page already, and now I've added a List of Australian Artists as a subsection.

I see that many of the artists in the list don't show up in the categories. So I'll go though the articles 0on the individual artists and make sure they're in the categories. This will take time :).

I find that there's an article titled List of Artists, [], which is a set of links to artists by nationality. There's no stand-alone national list for Australia. At this point I'd prefer to keep the list as part of this article. Later, when it's moer complete, it might hive off as an article in its own right. (I'd also like to be a bit moer skilled at editing before I post any articles - it would be nice, for example, to include some illustrations, something I'm not yet confident I can do).

I'm not entierly happy with dividing this list chronologically - reality isn't quite so neat, people don't stop and start their careers according to whether the year has two zeroes in it. So I might do the list by simple alphabetical order, but adding the artists' dates in brackets after each.

All comment welcome.

Oh - thanks to whoever turned my across-the-line lists into vertical columns - another skill I haven't yet learned :).

PiCo 07:26, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Theres quite alot listed under Category:Australian painters .. a subcategory of aus. artists, did you see that one? Cfitzart 15:03, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks, yes, I have found it - working my through it, adding the names from the category to the list and adding dates in brackets.PiCo 23:48, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

I've fleshed out the list using the following:
 * All names from the Australian artists category and the Australian painters sub-category, with a few exceptions (reqasons below)
 * Winners of the Archibald
 * The most recent winners of the Wynne (just to overcome the Archie's bias towards portraiture) - I'll add more Wynne's later

The missing names from the categories have been left out for specific reasons in each case. One is a deceased Aboriginal artist whose relatives have asked that his name not be used in public (but there's an article in Wiki using his name...); another is a person who has no achievements so far as I can see - no major prizes, no major galleries. But of course everyone is free to add names.

 * I'm going to be horribly culturally insensitive here and say that Wikipedia's mission to provide information outweighs the cultural sensitivities of Aboriginal people. Wikipedia contains all manner of information that offends one cultural group or another; we include it precisely because we think the rights of others to find out this information outweighs the offence taken.  We respect the cultural taboos of Christians, Jews, Moslems, Americans, Poms, Turks, Germans, Russians, Japanese, New Zealanders, and admirers of Keith Windschuttle's historical acumen only as far as doesn't conflict with Wikipedia's mission to provide information, and sometimes not even then.  Now, I'm sorry, but how the heck are we supposed to write biographies about deceased Aboriginal artists that people will find if we don't use their names?

 * While this is getting offtopic, one could imagine a similar question hypothetically coming up in the future if somebody added details of secret Aboriginal cultural ceremonies. I know a lot of Australian Wikipedians would immediately argue for the deletion of such material.  But why should we do so when we link to the Fishman Affidavit, which details the secret initiation practices of the Church of Scientology?  --Robert Merkel 15:05, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

I'll try to add a few biographies soon - there's a lot of red links showing and the more we can turn blue the better.PiCo 07:27, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Just found a list of artists as part of a 'to do list' here: Australian Wwikipedians' notice board/Complete to-do/The Arts --- Cfitzart 00:29, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Just finished adding Wynne and Sulman winners. This section is now so long it's unbalancing the article, and I feel it should be hived off as a separate article - buty don't know how to do it. ALSO, concerning how to add names to the list, there has to be some criteria, otherwise it gets out of hand - looking at this now I' feeling it already is. Adding winners of major prizes is one obvious way, but I have some problems with that: many early prize-winners are now forgotten, possibly rightly so; and the Blake Prize seems to me a rather bad joke in a country that to me seems without religion, unless hedonism is a faith (and how can you respect a prize for religious art that numbers that old sinner Donald Friend among its recipients?)

PiCo 13:35, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Artists articles: Drysdale and after
Expanded the stub for RD - please have a look and tell me what you think
 * Very nicely done, its a good article now. It would help if you included links or references for the quotes though. Cfitzart 00:45, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I have commented on the article at Talk:Russell Drysdale. --Robert Merkel 02:14, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Retitled this section and will add links to articles as I write them (or expand stubs). PiCo 01:23, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The list: Russell Drysdale/Davida Allen/Julian Ashton/Charles Blackman/Penleigh Boyd/Guy Boyd/Thomas Bock/Merric Boyd/John Dahlsen/Roy De Maistre/Robert Dickerson/Augustus Earle/E Phillips Fox/Donald Friend/Dattilo Rubbo/Merioola Group/Sydney Long/Gordon Bennett/S T Gill/Eugene von Guerard/John Lewin/Conrad Martens/Lionel Lindsay/Bea Maddock

Heide Circle
I've created a stub for Heide Circle; if anybody wants to extend it that'd be great...--Robert Merkel 12:08, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Good article. I added a little to your line about the Heide Museum, just to state that it's more than just a museum.

Antipodeans
Added an article on the Antipodeans Group. Baased largely on Bernard Smith's Australian Painting 1788-1990 and on the 2 websites linked at the end of the article. Any edits welcomed

Incidentally, I came across this site, which is about the best little potted history of Australian art I've seen. I wonder how we can use it - add it as a link to the main article? PiCo 09:43, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Ive added links to the antip group from the artists which were in it, the history is good, maybe a mention of the Sydney 9 that it mentions should be in the antip article too. Ive also started Angry Penguins but its pretty basic now Cfitzart 14:40, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

list article
It was mentioned before about making a separate article for the list, thought it was more complete now so I made it at List of Australian artists Cfitzart 09:56, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Good. At the moment I've set myself the task of profiling all Caravaggio's paintings (am I mad?) - but will come back to the Aussies, true! PiCo 11:50, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Aboriginal art
There's a problem trying to write about Ab. art here - you end up saying either too much or too little. Maybe better to make clear in the intro that this article is about post-settlement Aust. art, and include the link to the full article on Aboriginal art for those who want that? PiCo 11:38, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

"Aboriginals" and "White Australians": noun or adjective?
Or should that be "aboriginals" and "white Australians?" It is optional. I don't know what the convention should be for this article.

Achmedpurple (talk) 06:23, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

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John Passmore
In 2003 Elinor and Fred Wrobel converted a pub into a museum for their friend, the abstract artist John Passmore (1904-1984). It is one of the few museums in Australia dedicated solely to one artist's life and work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Achmedpurple (talk • contribs) 15:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Frank Hinder, Grace Crowley
need a section on these artists —Preceding unsigned comment added by Achmedpurple (talk • contribs) 01:23, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was moved to Visual arts of Australia – Juliancolton  | Talk 16:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Visual Arts of Australia → Visual arts of Australia — The word "arts" should bot have a capital "a". Achmedpurple (talk) 04:34, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Support — IAW WP:TITLE — V = I * R  (talk) 06:41, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Support - as above. --DAJF (talk) 09:38, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. I'd also like to point out that uncontroversial moves like simple capitalization fixes can be proposed under Requested moves. Jafeluv (talk) 09:31, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
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feminist art
Hello, seeking feedback on a new page on feminist art in australia, please do contribute... australian feminist art timeline. i've added a link to this under 'see also'. thanks all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Femarttimeline (talk • contribs) 05:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

time to develop more structure
Thanks to HappyWaldo for the suggestion - the article needs subsections to break it up. I suggest these should not be about individual artists - even major artists probably should not have enough text to warrant their own subsection in such a broad overview. Options are to have subsections about: French art uses the approach of movements within a chronological framework. Visual arts of the United States is similar, though not a great article in terms of comprehensiveness. I think the "notable figures" section at the end of that article is a bad idea. I suggest movements within periods, plus occasional other headings as required (a section on galleries etc after the whole chronological section. Other views? hamiltonstone (talk) 23:13, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * particular periods
 * movements
 * not to organise it chronologically at all, but use other types of headings for example:
 * Europeans in the antipodes (really a kind of early chronological category)
 * Indigenous art
 * Painting and drawing
 * Sculpture
 * New media
 * Galleries, organisations and exhibitions
 * Prizes, scholarships and awards / support for the visual arts
 * Major movements
 * Impact of Australian art internationally
 * ...or something like that

 * Thanks for your clean up work. I agree the article structure can be improved and "movements within periods" is a good way to do it. I think some chronological structure still works and suggested headings could be:

 * 1) Pre-European Indigenous art
 * 2) Painting and drawing:
 * European explorers and the colonial period (1600-1901)
 * Subsection: The Heidelberg School and Australian Federation (1870-1901)
 * Early 20th Century (1901-1945)
 * Post War period (1945-1980)
 * Subsection: Indigenous styles impact Western traditions (1945-1980) [Here talk about Hermannsburg School & Western Desert Art Movement etc]
 * Late 20th and early 21st century (1980-2010)
 * 3) Sculpture
 * 4) New media
 * 5) Galleries, organisations and exhibitions
 * 6) Prizes, scholarships and awards Ozhistory (talk) 04:16, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

 * I'm comfortable with something like that except I wouldn't separate sculpture out, but integrate it into that historical structure.hamiltonstone (talk) 07:31, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Regarding images, I would suggest tallying the numer of times a particular work appears in Australian art books, such as Bernard Smith's Australian Painting and Robert Hughes' The art of Australia, so only the best and/or most important Australian works are featured. - HappyWaldo (talk) 11:26, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

article is too far gone
It seems near impossible to begin improving this article in its current state. It is by far the longest national art article, but one of the least informative. The structure and sheer length is bewildering, the text an incoherent list of random (mostly unsourced or poorly sourced) trivia that doesn't tell much of anything. The only way of saving it I can think of would be having several editors write seperate (previously discussed and decided upon) sections from scratch in sandboxes and then piecing them together. - HappyWaldo (talk) 03:28, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: "Regarding images, I would suggest tallying the numer of times a particular work appears in Australian art books, such as Bernard Smith's Australian Painting and Robert Hughes' The art of Australia, so only the best and/or most important Australian works are featured. - HappyWaldo (talk) 11:26, 12 May 2011 (UTC)"

Obviously there is a great deal of information here so you're quite wrong to call it "the least informative" article. Atrociously incorrect. Yes, I can't deny the article is extremely badly written and there is no reason not to do an entire rewrite. What you've suggested above, about your belief that the article is "bewildering" and made up of "random trivia" raises questions about your own ability to do a better job. What makes it random trivia if it is directly referring to the the people and art works in the story of art in twentieth century Australia? Most Australian art is trivial anyway and the best of it is good, not great. There is not much point in being elitist and expecting truly great works of art from the Australian canon, although if you're into art as an investment there are plenty of people who will claim to have supposedly great or important art to sell. And you're misguided if you think a mention in Hughes's The Art of Australia meant Hughes actually admired a given work of art in his book. That book was written as a Dear John letter to Australian art. Nor did Christopher Allen write about Brett Whiteley or Imants Tillers just because he was so smitten with their work. The Smith book was written forty years ago and features numerous forgettables. These are books of art criticism, not books of art fawning. The best artists in them get superficial treatment. They're also male dominated and omit equally good female artists. Your observations make you sound rather glib. Please try getting over yourself and do some extra research and thinking before doing any rewriting of this section. Achmedpurple (talk) 04:43, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The attacks aren't necessary. I never claimed to be an expert on Australian art, which is why I'm cautious to make any bold edits to the article. But I do have a keen interest in Australian art and articles related to it, so I'm making some harmless noises on the talkpage. I only mentioned the Hughes and Smith books as two examples, and suggested tallying mentions/reproductions of paintings in well-known Australian art books to find a consensus on the "best and/or most important" works. Clearly, works can be important and far from "the best". Take for example Benjamin Duterrau's The Conciliation, Australia's first historical epic. So your lecture on art criticism/fawning was pointless. Perhaps my initial gripes with the article were over the top, I just wouldn't to spark some kind of discussion, do some collaborative "research and thinking". - HappyWaldo (talk) 05:51, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

I can see there is no harm done. Why not be bold and add The Conciliation? With a bit of luck your boldness would attract other interested individuals and there would be a greater sense of what reaches consensus. Achmedpurple (talk) 06:15, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

 * I did add a Duterrau to the Tasmanian Aborigines page, and a Dowling. There are many paintings we could add, but I dont think it's really helpful throwing them all in galleries at the bottom of each section. A good way of organising images would be in multi-image boxes (see right). Not as cluttered, won't leak into other sections, and can fit in more works to compliment the corresponding paragraph and enhance the reading experience. Vincent van Gogh is a good example of that. - HappyWaldo (talk) 10:56, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

That's a good way to do it. I can only assume if people are going to Wikipedia for info on Australian art they are typing into Google something basic, like "Australian art history", "Australian colonial paintings", "Famous Australian artists" or "Contemporary Australian art pictures". Stuff like that I guess. For contemporary art I think a mix of images can vaguely speak for the broader trends of what is happening in contemporary art, ie model making, pop art's influence, Western Desert painting, art world art versus vernacular styles. As for the section on modernist art I think there is an apparent visual trend when those art works are grouped together. It isn't necessary to separate modernist photography and sculpture and painting if they are stylistically similar. I put the images into very general categories because I expect readers to be laymen and not all that specific about particular artists, but it makes sense to have the image correspond with what is in the text. I haven't used multi-box images before, so I didn't think of using them. Achmedpurple (talk) 11:38, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I don't think painting and photography should be seperated. Both painters and photographers seemed to follow similar styles and capture the same subject matter at the same time. Like Cazneaux and Heysen, or photographers Dupain and Caddy and painters Meere and Freda Robertshaw who depicted Sydney beachgoers as athletic gods of the surf. I know there are books which examine these links much more closely. - HappyWaldo (talk) 11:55, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Most expensive Australian paintings
I've created a list of the most expensive Australian paintings sold at auction, it can be found on my sandbox here. Anyone have suggestions regarding the list's criteria? Should it be limited to paintings sold for over $1,000,000 (which is still something of a milestone in Aus art), or should it be something like the top 50 or top 100? Also should the list have its own article, or be integrated into the Australian art article, perhaps in a [show][hide] template. I think it would make a useful addition to a section on the Australian art market, and will be one way of deciding which artists receive the most coverage in the article. HappyWaldo (talk) 11:54, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Some thoughts for improvement
Here are some things that I think ought to change:
 * The sections are still largely disconnected statements and/or value judgements, rather than paragraphs that have a coherent topic.
 * the text should provide a narrative of the influences, schools and reactions through various periods. Currently, the sections rarely flow.
 * a lot of the most important and general statements (e.g. first para of the Heidelberg school) are completely unreferrenced (the Heidelberg school quotes Sayers, who is not linked, nor footnoted) There are lot of good general Australian Art history books now, so this should not be hard to remedy.
 * The Gallery Sections have plenty images that are not very useful. Moreover, the extensive use of many small galleries disrupts the flow (especially when they start sections - e.g. 20th Century)
 * Too many artists are mentioned, or have only a trivial fact stated about them. Better to cover the main figures of a movement more thoroughly, and rely on the linked Movement Article to cover the fuller range of artists. (There may be some movement pages that need creation.)
 * Very few artworks are referenced directly. I know it is not easy in such high level overview, nor to have it well referenced, but I think it vital. E.g. it is fine to say that the Heidelberg School achieved "a truer sense of light and colour" for the Australian landscape, but it is even better if we can refer to a specific painting and mention some ways that artist is achieving it there (but probably not using "Shearing of the Rams" as an example - it is an indoor view!)
 * Some sections, especially contemporary ones, are too long and detailed (WP:RECENT) and should be cut a lot and/or split out to sub-articles.
 * Probably a bit too long overall - quite a bit longer than American Art, and longer than Italian, British and French Art pages.

I am happy to help. Other ideas also welcome. I have previously done substantial work on Spanish art and Venetian school (art) pages, but both those were really expansions, which is not really what we need done here at all. So - help welcome! Mozzy66 (talk) 11:29, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Yep it needs better flow. I'm not much of a prose writer and I tend to not want to miss any names, so this article is is pretty convoluted. If you want to do as you have proposed, the article will be more user friendly. Matnatlak (talk) 05:20, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

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Publications query
Please look at my query about two Australian arts publications with similar names, and make suggestions on how they should be handled in Wikipedia. Bjenks (talk) 09:20, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

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Xerox Development Environment

The Xerox Development Environment was one of the first Integrated development environments (IDEs). It was first implemented on the Xerox Alto in 1977.

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List of New Zealand tertiary students' associations

The following is a list of New Zealand Tertiary (University and Polytechnic) Students' Associations:

Tertiary Student Associations

 * Auckland University of Technology: AuSM
 * Massey University:
 * ASA (Albany Students' Association (Auckland))
 * MAWSA (Massey At Wellington Students' Association (Wellington))
 * M@D (Massey @ Distance (Extramural))
 * MUSA (Massey University Students' Association (Palmerston North))
 * Victoria University of Wellington:
 * VUWSA (Victoria University of Wellington Students' Association)
 * Victoria Postgraduate Students' Association (PGSA)
 * UCOL (Universal College of Learning) : AS@U (Association of Students at UCOL)
 * University of Waikato : WSU (Waikato Students' Union)
 * Waikato Institute of Technology (WINTEC) : SAWIT (Students' Association of Waikato Institute of Technology)
 * University of Auckland :
 * AUSA (Auckland University Students' Association)
 * The University of Auckland Postgraduate Students' Association (PGSA)
 * University of Canterbury : UCSA (University of Canterbury Students' Association)
 * Lincoln University: LUSA (Lincoln University Students' Association)
 * University of Otago : OUSA (Otago University Students' Association)
 * Otago Polytechnic : OPSA (Otago Polytechnic Students' Association)
 * Christchurch Polytechnic : CPSA (Christchurch Polytechnic Students' Association)
 * BOP Polytechnic Bay of Plenty Polytechnic Students Association (BOPPSA)
 * SANITI - Student Association of the Nelson Marlborough Institute of Technology Inc
 * Students' Association at Unitec New Zealand, Auckland, New Zealand
 * Tai Poutini Polytechnic Students' Association
 * Wellington Institute of Technology (WelTec) and Whitireia New Zealand: Student Connection
 * WITSA - Waiariki Institute of Technology Student Association
 * International Pacific College Students Association (IPCSA)

Māori Student Associations
(all work in parallel to mainstream associations):
 * New Zealand Union of Students' Associations: Te Mana Akonga
 * Auckland University of Technology: Titahi ki Tua
 * Massey University:
 * Manawatahi (Palmerston North)
 * Te Waka o Ngā Ākonga Māori (Auckland)
 * Kokiri Ngātahi (Wellington)
 * Victoria University of Wellington : Ngai Tauira
 * University of Auckland: Ngā Tauira Māori
 * University of Canterbury: Te Akatoki
 * Lincoln University: Te Awhioraki
 * University of Otago: Te Roopū Māori

Pacific Student Associations
All Pacific student associations work in parallel to mainstream associations:
 * New Zealand Union of Students' Associations: Tauira Pasifika
 * Auckland Institute of Studies: Maori Pacific Island Students Association (MPI)
 * Auckland University of Technology: Auckland University of Technology Pacific Islands Students' Association (Fale Niu)
 * University of Auckland: Auckland University Pacific Islands Students' Association (AUPISA)
 * University of Otago: University of Otago Pacific Islands Students' Association (UOPISA)

Nationwide student bodies

 * New Zealand Union of Students' Associations (NZUSA, formerly New Zealand University Students' Association)
 * Te Mana Ākonga, National Māori Students' Association (parallel partnership with NZUSA)
 * Tauira Pasifika, National Pasifika Students' Association (parallel partnership with NZUSA)
 * New Zealand Tongan Tertiary Students' Association NZTTSA (MoU with NZUSA)
 * Aotearoa Student Press Association
 * Every Nation Campus Ministries (ENCM)
 * Student Life New Zealand (Christian students' association)
 * Tertiary Students Christian Fellowship
 * UniQ (association of gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, transsexual, takatāpui and intersex students)
 * University Sport New Zealand
 * New Zealand Law Students' Association (NZLSA)
 * Student Job Search (SJS)
 * New Zealand Medical Students' Association (NZMSA)
 * New Zealand International Students' Association (NZISA)


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Peiligang culture

The Peiligang culture was a Neolithic culture in the Yi-Luo river basin (in modern Henan Province, China) that existed from about 7000 to 5000 BC. Over 100 sites have been identified with the Peiligang culture, nearly all of them in a fairly compact area of about 100 square kilometers in the area just south of the river and along its banks.

Peiligang culture
The culture is named after the site discovered in 1977 at Peiligang, a village in Xinzheng County, Zhengzhou, north-central Henan province. Archaeologists believe that the Peiligang culture was egalitarian, with little political organization.

The culture practiced agriculture in the form of cultivating millet and animal husbandry in the form of raising pigs and possibly poultry. The people hunted deer and wild boar, and fished for carp in the nearby river, using nets made from hemp fibers. The culture is also one of the oldest in ancient China to make pottery. This culture typically had separate residential and burial areas, or cemeteries, like most Neolithic cultures. Common artifacts include stone arrowheads, spearheads and axe heads; stone tools such as chisels, awls and sickles for harvesting grain; and a broad assortment of pottery items for such purposes as cooking and storing grain.

Jiahu
The site at Jiahu is the earliest site associated with Peiligang culture. There are many similarities between the main group of Peiligang settlements and the Jiahu culture, which was isolated several days' travel to the south of the main group. Archaeologists are divided about the relationship between Jiahu and the main group. Most agree that Jiahu was part of the Peiligang culture, pointing to the many similarities. A few archaeologists are pointing to the differences, as well as the distance, believing that Jiahu was a neighbor that shared many cultural characteristics with Peiligang, but was a separate culture. The cultivation of rice, for example, was unique to Jiahu and was not practiced among the villages of the main Peiligang group in the north. Also, Jiahu existed for several hundred years before any of the settlements of the main group.

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Epsilon Minus

Epsilon Minus were a Canadian EBM/techno/trance band formed in 2000 by Bogart Shwadchuck and Jennifer Parkin. The name "Epsilon Minus" is a reference to Aldous Huxley's novel Brave New World.

History
Epsilon Minus was started in 2000 by the duo of Bogart Shwadchuck and Jennifer Parkin. They released their self-titled debut album, Epsilon Minus, with Parkin on vocals, in May 2002 on Belgian record label Alfa Matrix. They followed in April 2003 with an electronic dance album titled Mark II. Parkin left the band during the making of Mark II to form Ayria and released Debris on Alfa Matrix. In an interview with Side-Line, Shwadchuck stated: "Jenn and I just didn't belong together. I grew out of the kind of music we were making, and there wasn't room for a partner in the things I wanted to be doing. ... In the end, we were only stopping each other from doing what we wanted to be doing, and there was no reason to continue working that way."

Shwadchuck continued Epsilon Minus as a solo act, releasing the Pre-Initialized EP and the Reinitialized LP, exhibiting greater psychedelic trance and intelligence dance influences, in 2004. Reinitialized featured collaborations with Kristy Venrick (The Azoic), Martha M. Arce (Distorted Reality), Eric Oehler (Null Device), and Ned Kirby (Stromkern). Shwadchuck ended the project in 2005, releasing the short R.I.P. EP of leftovers and outtakes, and continued to record under his own name, as well as under the aliases "Artifice," "Sex Genius," and "Chester Fantastico." He briefly resurrected Epsilon Minus to perform a remix for The Gothsicles.

Discography

 * Epsilon Minus (Alfa Matrix, 2002)
 * Mark II (Alfa Matrix, 2003)
 * Pre-Initialized (Alfa Matrix, 2004)
 * Reinitialized (Alfa Matrix, 2004)
 * 20 EP (Self-released, 2022)

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Talk:Members of the Tasmanian House of Assembly, 2002–2006

discussion of the article
I didn't realise that Tasmanian lower house seats have the same names as their federal counterparts. I've already created an article for the federal seat of Bass - how should we deal with this? Ambi 08:24, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Diagram
Due to The Tas House of Assembly's multi-member electorates, maybe the diagram would look better like this?

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Claudio Magris

Claudio Magris  (born 10 April 1939) is an Italian scholar, translator and writer. He was a senator for Friuli-Venezia Giulia from 1994 to 1996.

Life
Magris graduated from the University of Turin, where he studied German studies, and has been a professor of modern German literature at the University of Trieste since 1978.

He is an essayist and columnist for the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera and for other European journals and newspapers. His numerous studies have helped to promote an awareness in Italy of Central European culture and of the literature of the Habsburg Myth, a concept which he coined in 1963.

Magris is a member of several European academies and served as a senator in the Italian Senate from 1994 to 1996.

His first book on the Habsburg Myth in modern Austrian literature rediscovered central European literature. His journalistic writings have been collected in Dietro le parole ("Behind Words", 1978) and Itaca e oltre ("Ithaca and Beyond", 1982). He has written essays on E.T.A. Hoffmann, Henrik Ibsen, Italo Svevo, Robert Musil, Hermann Hesse and Jorge Luis Borges. His novels and theatre productions, many translated into several languages, include Illazioni su una sciabola (1984), Danubio (1986), Stadelmann (1988), Un altro mare (1991), and Microcosmi (1997).

His breakthrough was Danubio (1986), which is a magnum opus. In this book (said by the author to be a "drowned novel"), Magris tracks the course of the Danube from its sources to the sea. The whole trip evolves into a colourful, rich canvas of the multicultural European history.

Decorations and awards

 * 1980: Austrian Cross of Honour for Science and Art, 1st class
 * 1987: Bagutta Prize for Danubio
 * 1990: French Award for Best Foreign Book (essays) for Danubio
 * 1992: Humboldt Research Award from the Alexander von Humboldt Foundation
 * 1994: Gold Medal of Honour of the City of Vienna
 * 1997: Strega Prize for Microcosmi
 * 2000: Würth Prize for European Literature
 * 2001: Knight Grand Cross of the Order of Merit of the Italian Republic
 * 2001: Erasmus Prize
 * 2001: Leipzig Book Prize for European Understanding (Grand Prize)
 * 2001: Member of the Academy of Arts Berlin
 * 2004: Prince of Asturias Award for Literature
 * 2006: Austrian State Prize for European Literature
 * 2008: Walter Hallstein Prize
 * 2009: Friedenspreis des Deutschen Buchhandels
 * 2009: Prix Européen de l'Essai Charles Veillon
 * 2009: Prix Jean Monnet European Literature
 * 2009: Vilenica Prize – Slovenian international literature prize for Central European authors
 * 2009: Knight of the Order of Arts and Letters of Spain
 * 2012: Austrian Decoration for Science and Art
 * 2012: Cross of the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany
 * 2014: FIL Literary Award in Romance Languages
 * 2015: Pour le Mérite
 * 2015: Knight Commander's Cross of the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany
 * 2016: Franz Kafka Prize
 * 2019: Thomas Mann Prize

Honorary doctorates

 * 1991: University of Strasbourg
 * 1993: University of Copenhagen
 * 1995: University of Klagenfurt
 * 1999: University of Szeged
 * 2011: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven (Belgium)
 * 2011: University of Barcelona
 * 2014: University of Murcia
 * 2014: West University of Timisoara
 * 2017: Free University of Berlin
 * 2018: University of Regensburg

Memberships

 * 2001: Academy of the Arts, Berlin, Section Literatur
 * Deutsche Akademie für Sprache und Dichtung, Darmstadt
 * Bayerische Akademie der Schönen Künste, Munich
 * Akademie der Wissenschaften und der Literatur, Mainz
 * Österreichische Akademie der Wissenschaften, Wien
 * Accademia delle scienze di Turino
 * Akademie der Wissenschaften, Göttingen

Works

 * Illazioni su una sciabola (1984; translated as Inferences from a Sabre, ISBN 0-7486-6036-4),
 * Danubio (1986; translated as Danube: A Sentimental Journey from the Source to the Black Sea, ISBN 0-00-272074-4),
 * Stadelmann (1988),
 * Un altro mare (1991; translated as A Different Sea, ISBN 0-00-271339-X)
 * Microcosmi (1997; translated as Microcosms, ISBN 1-86046-618-4).
 * Alla cieca (2006; translated as Blindly, ISBN 978-0-670-06856-2).
 * Non luogo a procedere (2015; translated as Blameless, ISBN 978-88-11-68917-1).
 * Tiempo curvo a Krems (2019).

title: Claudio Magris