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User talk:Olve Utne

Welcome
JFW | T@lk  00:28, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

"Election campaign" :-)
Yes, I just wanted to tell you I'm being considered for WP adminship, so why not use your wikidemocratic right to vote -- and thus support a fellow nordmøring (who grew up in a neighbouring municipality, no less, and had an aunt at Gullstein) in his quest to make Wikipedia an even better virtual world of knowledge! --Wernher 20:53, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC) (not very used to campaigning; more of a quiet backroom guy, really)

 * Ovsvert! Takk ska du ha :-) --Wernher 17:12, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Discussion about mamzerim
Hi Olve, would you be willing to give your opinion in Talk:Jewish_ethnocentrism? Jayjg 23:32, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * OK -- I threw in my tuppence there. Nothing really revolutionary to add though... :) -- Olve 20:15, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Kevin B. MacDonald
Please take a look at Talk:Kevin B. MacDonaldAndyL 14:44, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Template:Jew revamp
I understand where your coming from, but sometimes we must sacrifice a few lesser items to keep things useable. There was no malicious intent to remove the other ethnic groups, merely to pair it down to the 4 largest ones as listed according to Jewish ethnic divisions all of the lesser groups are included on this page which is still linked. I would not think it difficult to find this information using this template.

As for languages I kept the primary languages, as I understand it Judaeo-Arabic is on the way out and Jewish languages lists it as "highly endangered", therefore my conclusion was simply let it go. I also based the choice upon previous comments at Template talk:Jew. Please be aware that I modify based upon what I percieve to be a consensus, most folks deemed that Jewish Populations had to stay so I kept it rather than merging the content with Template:Jews by country. Your best bet at convincing me is to get more people to agree. Alkivar 06:38, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Jewish ethnocentrism - delete?
You might be interested in the vote to delete and discussion here: Votes for deletion/Jewish ethnocentrism Jayjg (talk) 20:03, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the tip! -- Olve 20:43, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Question about the origin of Yiddish word schmuck
Doesn't the word actually come from the word for jewel, and is used as a euphemism? Jayjg (talk) 19:27, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Roughly yes, I would say. The Yiddish word שמוק means ‘ornament’ — as in piece of jewellery or lace/s. A שמוקלער (m.) or שמוקלערקע (f.) is a lacemaker. I would tend to believe that it started out as sarcasm rather than as an euphemism — but I know my European Yiddish history far better than American usage, so I cannot claim to have the whole story here... -- Olve 22:54, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * What do you think of this posting:
 * German _Schmuck_ rhymes with English _look_ and means 'jewel'.ÿ Yiddish _shmok_ rhymes with Yiddish _zok_ 'sock', and means 'penis'. It DOES NOT rhyme with the German word and there is no known way in which it can be derived therefrom. The two words are decidedly NOT RELATED, and appeals to a presumed reference to "the family jewels" in Yiddish are misplaced. In other words, Mr. Saphire's reference to "penile and ornamental origins of German-Yiddish _schmuck_" are completely off the mark. There IS NO "German-Yiddish _schmuck_". English _shmuck_ rhymes with English _luck_ and means 'fool'.ÿ It IS derived from the Yiddish word. Our best evidence points to the Slavic origin of Yiddish _shmok_. See, for example, Polish _smok_ 'serpent', 'tail'.
 * Jayjg (talk) 15:48, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Definitely interesting! But it seems a bit more confident than it needs to be... First, in the world of Yiddish, the word shmuk does exist, albeit maybe not in all dialects. Second, there is no 100%watertight wall between German and Yiddish: Almost anything that is said in some German dialect or other is also said in some Yiddish dialect or other. The two languages may be separate entities as written languages, but as spoken languages, there is about as much of a "sliding scale" between dialects/sociolects of German as there is within any similar "Sprachbund" -- e.g., Scandinavian, Low-German/Dutch/Frisian, etc. Third, the pronunciation of the short/lax /o/ and /u/ vowels in English are often similar, and in New York Yinglish they seem to be particularly so. All that being said, the theory of Polish "smok" as the/an etymology is interesting. I do not know of a Yiddish word "shmok" myself, so I can neither confirm, prove or falsify that hypothesis. The word "shmok" (which should be expected from the English form) or "smok" (which should be expected from the postulated Polish etymon) is not listed in Weinreich's Yiddish-English dictionary. My Yiddish is mostly a literary/linguistical one, so there is definitely a possibility for me to have missed a slang term...All in all, I am not really convinced, but providing of more specific references may convince me if the evidence is compelling enough. -- Olve 03:43, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hasidism and/or Chabad
Olve, do you know much about either of these topics? If so, I could use another set of eyes on an article. Jayjg (talk) 00:03, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I know a bit, I guess, but thinks are insanely hectic right now. Can it wait till מוצאי שבת? And could you remind me then? If it is more urgent, please tell me here as soon as possible, and I can have a brief look if you tell me what specific thing you want a second opinion about. -- Olve 06:07, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * מוצאי שבת is fine. There's a discussion going on at Talk:Chabad Lubavitch about the beliefs of Chabad Hassidim vs. other Hassidim; I was hoping you would weigh in.  Thanks. Jayjg (talk)  15:53, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry about the delay. That's quite a wasps' nest there...! -- Olve 01:59, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ashkenazic speakers of Ladino
Olve, could you please respond to my inquiry on this subject on the Talk:Ladino language page? Thanks. Tomer TALK 05:55, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

Abif VfD
Hi, see Votes for deletion/Abif. Thank you. IZAK 06:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

NPOV
Please check out Neutral point of view/BCE-CE Debate, Slrubenstein  |  Talk  00:00, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Yehudei sheqolenique
Yehudei sheqolenique, ever heard of them? Can you look at and verify the article at all? Thanks IZAK 10:30, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Nope. Never heard of them. Looks like a big (!) spoof to me... (I know: Famous last words and all that. But it just doesn’t seem to make any sense.) -- Olve 23:12, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the observations/s. IZAK 06:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Israel
Hello Olve: Please contact User:Humus sapiens who wishes to start a Wikiportal/Israel See his request below. Thanks IZAK 06:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi IZAK (and everyone else here :), Do you think it's time to create Wikiportal/Israel similar to Wikiportal/India, Wikiportal/New Zealand and other Category:Wikiportals? I'm writing this here because it was you who made those wonderful templates and we don't have a portal yet where we could communicate. What do you think? ←Humus sapiens←Talk 05:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi Humus, it's only me here, but I will pass your message on to "everyone". Yes, your suggestion is excellent, it is certainly time for what you describe, but I have no experience with Wikipedia portals, and if you know how, go ahead and start an Israel portal and I am sure editors of Israel-related articles will support you and join in the effort/s. Behatzlachah. IZAK 05:33, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Banu Qurayza
Hi, I received this request: "Banu Qurayza I'd be interested in your thoughts, and if you have time, your help in editing.Briangotts 02:34, 31 May 2005 (UTC)" Are you able to take a look at it, it's also being "disputed". Thanks. IZAK 03:40, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Babel - Classical Hebrew
Interesting idea, but how many people do you think this would apply to? Also, would you separate Mishnaic from Biblical? Finally, I'm not sure if the Babel designation was intended for "non-living" languages. Jayjg (talk) 07:15, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

 * How many? Quite a few, I suspect...
 * Separate Mishnaic (/Rabbinic/Mediaeval) from Biblical? “Probably not” would be my take on that.
 * As for the “living or non-living” issue, I can express myself much better in the non-modern-Israeli Hebrew that was a quite living language for many generations up towards our times (and which you find in any edition of a siddur, the Mishna, the Mishne Tora, etc., than in the newly-created Hebrew of the 1900s. I suspect that

Classical (incl. Biblical and Rabbinic Hebrew) can be considered at least as living as a language as Latin (see Template:User la-3). What one would have to do with Classical Hebrew would be to leave out the “native” level and just include levels 1 through 3 — just as is going to happen when the native Latin speaker template most likely gets deleted soon. -- Olve 07:50, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Uh...with 2.5 votes for "delete" vs. 10 votes for "keep", it actually appears that, at least for now, Template:User la will be kept. (my vote "conservamus hunc" is a "keep", btw...)  The template does not say that it's spoken as a mother tongue, but that the user has a "mother tongue familiarity" (paraphrasing) with the language.  (see Templates for deletion for the vote.) If you can understand "uvnei dan" or "vere'u banav", you're probably at Template:User he-class 2 (or maybe 3), and if you understand parashath balaq and its haftara perfectly, in Hebrew, that is, then you're probably at just User he-class.  Note that we probably shouldn't use Template:User he for this, since the template itself is written in MIH.  Tomer TALK  03:54, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

 * OK... :-) Well — if native(-level) Latin has been weighed and found worthy, then I guess Classical Hebrew has a pretty strong case. As for levels... Since I stumble a bit on Haftaràt Baláq, the Template:User he-class is probably out of bounds. But maybe my preferring to say “ur’ú banáv” could earn me a Template:he-class-3 — and, accordingly, a spectacular flunk in MIH. ;-)  The language of the templates should, as you point out, clearly not be in MIH. If this is an idea that catches on, then I am sure we can find a good way to phrase things. :-) Olve 07:16, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

RFA
Have you seen this RFA? Requests for adminship/FeloniousMonk Jayjg (talk) 18:52, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Who is a Jew
Please see the recent edits. Jayjg (talk) 15:53, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Tzadik
Please see the page that I made for Tzadik and my comments to the talk page of chabad regarding ther merging of the section "Relationship between God, the Rebbe and his followers" into Tzadik. Thanks. --PinchasC | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€  04:29, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Old Norse Wikipedia
While waiting for the creation of the Old Norse Wikipedia, I would like as much people as possible to come on this page to dicuss the "neologisms" we should use on it. Please take a look. Yours sincerly. 82.235.122.163 09:50, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

P.S. : As you have many usernames, I've sent this message to each of them.

An honest attempt
Your latest post at Talk:Norwegian language is very disappointing. You have shown an extremely unhelpful and ungenerous attitude while presenting very few reasonable arguments to support your position. For one thing, accusing me for being some sort of instigator of disputes initiated by other users as well as a POV-pusher for sticking to the only applicable policy in these matters is very frustrating. Do you have any idea how much time I've wasted on just making sure that people like the Norwegian anon don't impose their very real POV and personal opinions in articles like Scandinavian languages (see Talk:Scandinavian languages for the debate)? I would like nothing better than to focus my time on just improving language articles, but considering how many people take it for granted that their view on language is relevant, no matter how flawed their reasoning is or if relevant sources refure their claims, this is time and again effectively hampered. And trust me, this is not mere opinion clashes; it's trying to prevent people from crapping up articles through editing based on pure, scientifically unsupported personal opinion; something quite common in language articles.

Considering your actual additions to Norwegian language are limited to some minor comments about orthography, I'd really like to see you make up for this lack of commitment with an honest attempt at a proper discussion instead of throwing your hands up and blaming the entire conflict, including the behavior of abusive third partries, on me.

Peter Isotalo 23:52, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

My RFA
Hi, Olve. You've commented on Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Haukurth with the words "Oppose for reasons of ethical integrity and Wikipedia’s academic credibility." I humbly ask you to reconsider your opinion. I have replied at some length to various concerns with my participation in the User:Amalekite discussion and I hope you can take the time to read my comments, especially the most recent ones. If there are still concerns you feel I have not addressed please let me know and I will see if I can clarify anything. - Haukur Þorgeirsson 21:59, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Judaism_and_Christianity
Hi Olve, I thought you might be interested in this section, recently added to the article, and in the discussion on the Talk: page regarding it. Jayjg (talk) 18:15, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for alerting me. Wish I had much more time right now... Could easily spend a week or three on that article. :) Olve 06:28, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Mange takk!

Hey Olve! Thanks for your support on my RfA. The final outcome was (57/4/3), so I am now an administrator. If you need help, have a question, or just want to chat (or if I get out of line!), please don't hesitate to let me know! Again, thanks! :D  Tom e rtalk

See Categories for deletion/Speedy
Hi Olve, See Categories for deletion/Speedy for ANOTHER vote to rename the following. Also since you were the one who provided the evidence that this was the solution on the Norwegian Wikipedia, could you please add the relevant Norwegian links into this new vote. Best wishes! Thank you, IZAK 13:04, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Category:Hebrew Bible/Tanakh --> Category:Tanakh
 * Category:Hebrew Bible/Tanakh events --> Category:Tanakh events
 * Category:Hebrew Bible/Tanakh people --> Category:Tanakh people
 * Category:Hebrew Bible/Tanakh places --> Category:Tanakh places
 * Category:Hebrew Bible/Tanakh prophets --> Category:Tanakh prophets
 * Category:Hebrew Bible/Tanakh-related stubs --> Category:Tanakh stubs
 * Category:Jewish texts/Ketuvim --> Category:Ketuvim
 * Category:Jewish texts/Nevi'im --> Category:Nevi'im

Featured article candidates/Radhanite
This FAC is being opposed by a POV pusher who has consistantly tried to downplay Jewish contributions to history (while simultaneously shrugging off or sweeping under the rug Muslim atrocities against Jews and others, see, e.g., al-Andalus and Banu Qurayza). Please review the article when you are able and weigh in on the FAC page, or not, as you feel appropriate. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 05:57, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Hebrew Alphabet
Saw this message, what do you think of it? IZAK 06:27, 25 December 2005 (UTC):
 * "I have rewritten the articles on all the Hebrew letters here and before I replace the pages, your input would be appreciated. Thanks! Sputnikcccp 16:26, 23 December 2005 (UTC)"

Edvard Grieg
I wonder if you are familiar with his violin sonata in C minor? Do you think it would be worthy of an article here? --HappyCamper 06:30, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Bible verses and chapters on Wikipedia
Hello Olve: Shavua Tov ! It is important that you see the following proposed Wikipedia policy pages and their discussion pages at Centralized discussion/Verses of 1 Kings 4 and 5 AND Centralized discussion/Whole bible chapter text. Thanks for giving this matter your serious attention before discussion is closed and the "policy" is set. IZAK 09:35, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Chabad link in Minyan Article
Hello, Olve, I would appreciate your comments/opinions in the debate I am having with PinchasC here: Talk:Minyan. Thank you. -- Avi 17:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Tartini's terzo suono on Beat (acoustics): can you help?
On Beat (acoustics) there is the phrase playing pure harmonies on the two upper strings like a c against an open e-string whose exact meaning I cannot figure out. As a violinist, could you explain it to laymen?--Army1987 21:08, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

 * OK — I have tried to write it a bit clearer, and have also corrected a mistake. It is wordier now, but hopefully a bit easier to understand. -- Olve 03:47, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Marginal tonality
You added Category:Tonal languages to the articles on Swedish and Norwegian, but I can't quite agree with the classification and I reverted them. Yes, both of them feature tone to a minor extent, but it's quite marginal and not lexically unpredictable like in more prominent tone languages. After all, the Scandinavian tones don't signify grammatical features like tense or anything comparable.

Peter Isotalo 11:32, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

 * That would go for Punjabi to, wouldn't it? I agree that tonemes are relatively marginal (though rather audible) in Rikssvenska. And they are also present in many dialects of Danish. (I didn't include Danish, since they are more marginal there.) But in Norwegian, and esp. Nynorsk and “Radical Bokmål”, they take on a more central rôle — compare rota (T1: ‘the root’; T2: ‘made a mess’), husa (T1: ‘the houses’; T2: ‘boarded, had in one’s house’), Eli (T1: man’s name or family name; T2: woman’s name), skjelven (T1: ‘the being shaky’; T2: ‘shaky’), etc.
 * A few grammatical feature /toneme links in Nynorsk and “Radical Bokmål” are:
 * T1-en: monosyllabic masculine singular determinate vs. T2-en: adjectival form, bisyllabic masculine singular determinate
 * T1-a: monosyllabic feminine singular determinate, monosyllabic neutrum plural determinate vs. T2-a: verbal past tense; bisyllabic feminine singular determinate
 * This goes for the standard forms of the language/s.
 * In addition, in dialects which have kept the dative as a separate case, it is frequently found that toneme is central within the inflexion of each word:
 * Husa (T1: ‘the houses’ (neutrum plural determinate, nom./akk.); T2: ‘(in) the house’ (neutrum singular determinate, dat.)
 * Also, isn’t it a bit rash of you to just revert this without discussion? I will leave Swedish out, since your arguments hold for the standard language, but will reinstate Norwegian in the category. -- Olve 18:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Convincing argumentation. You make the call on Swedish if you feel like it.
 * Peter Isotalo 14:43, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Census information
Thanks for the support on my Talk: page. Jayjg (talk) 18:23, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeshiva counterpart
From your edits to Template:User_Yeshiva I see that you feel that the template serves to represent any type of Rabbinic students, whether Orthodox, Reform, or Conservative in their Rabbinical seminaries. However, I disagree and feel that the user:yeshiva Userbox should refer specifically to Yeshivas and their counterparts for females which are known in Yeshivish, and probably English as "Seminaries." So I'm proposing that I should create a new Userbox template to represent Jews who are in either Yeshiva or Seminary, and a separate userbox for other types of Rabbinic seminaries because Yeshivas are not nessecesscescarily Rabbinic seminaries, and surely Beis Yaakov schools, to which Jewish Seminary redirects (because it was requested here that anarticle for Orthodox girls' schools be introduced to the Wiki) are not Rabbinical seminaries (because Orthodox girls do not become Rabbis). So what do you think? Also, can you please move away your userboxes from your talk page because they get in the way? --רח"ק | Talk 20:55, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

 * My “edits”? I made the template...!  If you don’t like the broad scope of it (yes, it does have a broad scope), I have nothing against your making others for specific uses (but please let this one be broad), and I would be happy to help. Maybe something like: (could be split by gender),, (with redirect from “... Masorti”),  (with redirects from Reconstructionist, Reform, Progressive, etc.). For those of us who study in Yeshivot/Seminaries which are non-denominational, those categories don’t fit, however, and the use of the existing, general user box seems to be the best solution.

 * Concerning the user boxes, I’ll look into the options for structuring them differently. Please tell me how they get in your way, so that I can have a better picture of how to fix the problem. -- Olve 21:26, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Great job, Rachack! :-) Olve 21:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks. Your userboxes are on top of the top part of your talk page. Might I suggest making a separate page User:Olve/userboxes. I have done that also at User:Rachack/userboxes. --רח"ק | Talk 21:53, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Ah — the good ol’ low-resolution monitor problem... :] OK — I moved them to the bottom of my user page now. I also took out the tables, so that the boxes can wrap freely. Thanks for telling me about the problem! :-) -- Olve 22:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Camisia, qamis
If there's a PIE root, kem, for camisia, then camisia is unlikely to be derived from qamis. The derivation would be the other way around. Do you have some linguistic source for the argument the other way?

Just in terms of the history of clothing, the earliest woven clothing tends to be simply lengths of cloth, worn as loincloths, kilts, cloaks, etc. This would be true of Egyptian, Mesopotamian, early Greek, South Asian, etc. clothing. Cutting and sewing, as for shirts, tends to characteristic of northern peoples making garments of skins. Later, cutting and sewing are applied to cloth. In older clothing, the cuts are designed not to waste an inch of cloth. Truly ingenious cutting and piecing, lots of gores and gussets. Indo-Europeans are much more likely to have worn sewn rather than wrapped clothing, I should think. Would have to look at evidence from steppe graves to be sure. That would strengthen the case for an Indo-European origin for camisia. Zora 10:12, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

 * P.S. I just noticed -- on your user page, you mention POD publishing of The Vale of Cedars. I was one of the proofreaders for that book, when we put it through Distributed Proofreaders.

 * See http://www.bartleby.com/61/12/C0271200.html and http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/S240.html -- Olve 00:46, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Category Indian Jews
There is already a category, Desi Jews. Desi is used for any South Asian. Indian Jews would be a subcategory -- but I'm not at all sure that it's needed. The division between Pakistan and India is quite recent, the Jewish communities of South Asia are very old, and there was, I believe, a fair bit of movement between communities. Did you know about the Desi Jew category when you created the Indian Jew category? Zora 03:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Public transport Userbox
===>Thanks. -Justin (koavf), talk, mail 23:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

 * De nada! :-) Olve 23:14, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip! -Smahoney 02:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks from me too! However, another user, Disavian, seems to have simply edited my own user page to accomplish an equivalent thing. -- BRG 13:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep. AWB is a wonderful thing. I'd reccomend that you (Olve) check to see if it's included on any userpages before you userpage-spam. Admittedly, I might not have gotten all of them. Just saying... —Disavian (talk/contribs) 05:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * “Userpage-spam”...? -- Olve 06:57, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Muchas gracias for the tip :) --Michaelk 09:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Kashrut Userbox
Thanks for changing my Userpage reference to the "User kosher" box into the new template reference! Todah Rabah! --Tuvok 02:13, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

List of Iberian Jews
Thanks for the revert, but I've had to do it again. Some people are very persistent. Please feel free to activate your e-mail, and e-mail me. --Newport 11:44, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank You
Hi Olve, thank you for reminding me to be civilised at all times. Although I stand by the views expressed, I regret the manner in which I said them. Many thanks, Nesher 20:21, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

 * No worries. :) I put one citation in (for now) and added category:rabbis. I agree with you that the category Orthodox rabbis. The article should be toned down a bit, and it should be made clear that her formal title was Tanna’it. The specific title Rabbi was not commonly used in the time and place in question to the best of my knowledge, but it is clear from the sources that that is the closest word we have in modern English... -- Olve 20:28, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Asenath Barzani
Hi Olive! I've added a section Status as Rabbi and suggest presenting evidence/scholarship on her rabbinical status in this section (properly sourced). The issue of whether she had the title Rabbi (unlike Taana'it) seems to be a controversial one, and it's not clear whether it represents a modern scholar's opinion of what her title might or should have been, as distinct from historical documentation of what her peers actually called her. A separate section permits a full discussion of all scholarly opinions as to whether she was or was not a Rabbi. Do you think this is reasonable? --Shirahadasha 20:52, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Sounds very reasonable to me. My impression from the works I have read on the topic is that she did not have the title Rabbi, but that the title Tanna’it was a Rabbinic title — along with Ribbí (Rebbí, Rabbi), Rab (Rav, Rov), Dayyán, Ḥakhám (Hacham, Haham), Haham Başı (Hakham Bashi), Rishón leṢiyyón (Rishon leTzion''), etc. -- Olve 20:57, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Public transport userbox
hey Olve,

just wanted to say thank you for the public transport user box info

devonwhittle 12:59, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Sikhism
Hi Olve! Please check out the discussion at da:Diskussion:Abrahamitiske religioner. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 19:33, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Spanish and Portuguese Jews' categories
Shalom Olve: Hope all is well with you. Chag Sameach. I was wondering if you could help out. I am in the process of organizing Category:Jews and Judaism by country which usually involves bringing together three or four categories into under a parent category. I have just worked on the Spanish and Portuguese sub-categories and I know you have an interest in this subject. Unfortunately I have discovered overlaps (very common) because editors use the terms "Jews" "Jewish" "Judaism" and "Jewish history" very loosely and this can create redundancies without editors knowing what others have already done. Soooo, please take a look at Category:Jews and Judaism in Portugal (this is the parent category that I have just created) and you will see that it holds three sub-categories:

 * Category:Jewish Portuguese history
 * Category:Judaism in Portugal
 * Category:Portuguese Jews

and they only have articles about people, sometimes the same ones.

See also the parent category Category:Jews and Judaism in Spain, it has two sub-categories:

 * Category:Jewish Spanish history (which then has many of its own sub-sub-categories)
 * Category:Spanish Jews

and again, you will se that there is an overlap, and that articles about individuals in Category:Jewish Spanish history should actually be placed into Category:Spanish Jews. If you could find the time to look through and place the biographical articles into Category:Spanish Jews that would be great. And also to try to tighten-up the spread of articles in the various Portuguase categories. Thanks in advnace for your efforts. If you cannot do this let me know. I may ask someone else to help. Best wishes, IZAK 07:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Great timing on your first edit to Allegations of Israeli apartheid
Hi Olve. I was looking through the history of the AoIA article and it seems that your first edit to the article, a revert in a widespread revert war (this edit ) happened today -- see. It's timing was impeccable. I was wondering how it is you happened upon that article at that exact time - can you explain? Just trying to understand the strangeness that has been going on with that article. --Deodar 01:32, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Anyways, it was really frustrating today since that revert war was based on a misunderstanding. No one did undo all of SV's edits and I had taken the changes to the talk page. Going forward, it is best to use the talk page rather than have a pile one, pile ones only encourage one side to be left with bad taste of feeling bullied, as SV mentioned on the AoIA talk page -- something that needs to be avoided. --Deodar 02:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

 * You will probably find that I have edited a lot of articles the first time at some point. Some times, those edits are tiny, other times not. I try to make a point out of spreading my edits a bit. Lately, I have edited less than usual and am finding myself in a situation where lots of patience and low-level edit “wars” over days and days is something I do not have the time and energy to engage in. I apologise if my revert of the suddenly high-speed re-ordering of the article and my urging people to take things to the discussion page (!) has hurt anyone’s feelings. I have usually tried to keep away from particularily contentious topics since saying anything sensible there tends to lead to accusations and insinuations, but sometimes I fail to do that... :] Olve 20:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Things seem to have calmed down now, thankfully. BTW my great grandmother immigrated from Olso, Norway to the north-western United States around 1920 in what was a mass wave of Norwegian immigration to North America.  --Deodar 02:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

 * 1) Good! :-) 2) Interesting! :-) I have some relatives on the US west coast too. And some more distant ones in the more typically Scandinavian Midwest... (Don't know if Eric Utne is a relative though...) Do you know where your family came from before Oslo? -- Olve 23:26, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Vote request
Please Vote, as per wiktionary the correct spelling is anti-Semitic NOT Antisemitic. 70.49.86.196 22:27, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Safiyya
Hi, please can you get involved in the talk on the Safiyya bint Huyayy article. Please read through the talk and make out if you agree that she should not be called a concubine in adddition to a 'wife' of mohammad. In my view, it was a marriege out of fear. Thanks FrummerThanThou 23:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Shalwar vs. Salwar Redux
Hi, Since you had posted an opinion on the preferred (Wikipedia) spelling of this apparel, I was wondering if you could respond to Shalwar vs. Salwar Redux. Thanks. Fowler&fowler «Talk»  21:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

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Re. Aure, Norway
Hei Olve. I will have to decline your request to protect this article as the current level of vandalism does not justify protection at this time. However, I've added this article to my watchlist and will promptly revert any vandalism to it. One of the vandals has already been blocked indefinitely. Best regards, Hús  ö  nd  20:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

 * All right — if I don't have to watch it more-or-less alone, that will definitely help... :] Olve 14:03, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Do you understand Aramaic?
Do you understand Aramaic or know of someone on wikipedia who understands Aramaic; I'm looking to translate some angel names. Mursiel and Baviel. Let me know if you know or if someone else knows, that seems like an awful lot of knows...ha ha! Thanks. Lighthead 23:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Well — bab(a) (Bét-Bét) means ‘gate’, so one can say that Baviel or Babiel means ‘the Gate of God’ or ‘God is my gate’. The name Mursiel does not seem to make sense to me, unless it is a typo of, e.g., Muriel... -- Olve 23:11, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

concerning BernardZ
You are a funny guy! But thanks - let's hope he gets the message. Slrubenstein  |  Talk 18:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Well — let's hope... :] Olve 18:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

re: Thank you
Ingen problem. Tom e rtalk 02:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Iceland
Maybe you are interested in this project... --Michkalas 15:26, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

The neo-lachrymose conception of Jewish-Arab history
I have responded to your comment on the AfD. Can you please take a look (also at the details I have provided under my keep vote) Thanks --Aminz 07:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comment. Peace --Aminz 06:48, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Ritual washing in Judaism
The Ritual washing in Judaism article has recently gone a major re-write, with much contentious material inserted. I've tried to clean up some of it, but I'd appreciate it if you could take a look. Jayjg <small style="color:darkgreen;">(talk) 18:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Artur Carlos de Barros Basto
Hi Olve: I came across this article: Artur Carlos de Barros Basto. It's interesting and needs some work. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 09:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Germany Invitation
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My rfa
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Rfb participation thanks
Hello, Olve.

I wanted to personally thank you for taking part in the project-wide discussions regarding my candidacy for bureaucratship. After bureaucratic discussion, the bureaucrats decided that there was sufficient significant and varied opposition to my candidacy, and thus no consensus to promote. Although personally disappointed, I both understand and respect their decision, especially in light of historical conservatism the project has had when selecting its bureaucrats. If you have any further suggestions or comments as to how you think I could help the project, please let me know. Once again, thank you for your support. -- Avi (talk) 19:08, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

New name
Hey, congratulations on the new user name, it suits you! Jayjg <small style="color:darkgreen;">(talk) 02:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Thank you! :-) -- Olve Utne (talk) 18:50, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you ...
... for your comments on my talk page, even though I disagree with some of your points. Regardless of whether I am not living up to some standard (and I think I'm doing OK), I feel that admins should be held to a higher standard. And as you can see from my comments, I think Jayjg stepped well below those standards. I also don't think there is much of a problem with having the discussion on my talk page; even though it is technically open for anyone to see, user talk pages are acceptable for such disagreements. This is not a personal disagreement (i.e., I'm not making judgments on Jayjg as a person or even as an editor; I'm am criticizing his behavior as an admin). But that's probably a moot point because I think the discussion is coming to a close. Thank you again for you comments. Ward3001 (talk) 22:33, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

 * I got a bit curious here and looked through some of what you, Ward3001 have written about Jayjg over the Winona Ryder issue. I am appalled by your ad hominem attacks and strongly advice that you take a wiki-break while thinking through your motivation for being on this project. -- Olve Utne (talk) 22:33, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I apologized to Jayjg for personalizing the discussion, in case you didn't notice. Are you appalled that he abused the admin tools by threatening to block over a non-libelous BLP issue before giving a word of explanation on the talk page, an action that other editors besides me have disagreed with? As I told Jayjg, it would have taken less than a minute for him to make that explanation, and I have never in my years as editor seen an admin use a block threat so loosely. I again appreciate your comments, and maybe I do need a wikibreak, but not nearly as much as Jayjg needs an admin break. Ward3001 (talk) 22:42, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

 * After your behaviour, maybe you can see that an “(my apologies) BUT....:!!!” doesn’t quite cut it? You can relativise it as much as you wish, but that point stands. -- Olve Utne (talk) 22:59, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Anyway — I think the best you can do after that is give things a bit of time... Then you may have a better chance to be listened to regarding other concerns you have. -- Olve Utne (talk) 23:01, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

For the record: I am not going to spend more time on this issue. Other tasks are waiting in real life... :) Olve Utne (talk) 23:04, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I understand about the other tasks in real life. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 00:25, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

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Quadrun

Quadrun is a video game for the Atari 2600 developed by Steve Woita and published in 1983 by Atari, Inc. One of the four Atari Club games available exclusively via mail order, this title may have been available later in stores in very limited quantities. Only approximately 10,000 cartridges were initially made. Quadrun is the first Atari 2600 game with voice synthesis ("Quadrun! Quadrun! Quadrun!"); the only other is Open Sesame, made by Bit Corp.

Gameplay

The object of Quadrun is to destroy enemies ("captors") and rescue friendly characters ("runts") who are attempting to escape from the arena's central building. The player character is invincible, but has only a limited supply of their weapon, an energy ball that destroys the enemies on contact.

The game is a series of waves of enemy characters. In a given wave, enemies appear one at a time in the vertical section of the arena. Enemies come in different shapes and attack with different patterns, although all the enemies in a single wave will be of the same type. Some captors proceed straight through the arena, while others split in half, zig-zag or reverse direction. The player must launch the energy ball at the enemy character, then switch to the other side of the arena in order to catch it again. If the player does not catch the ball on the other side, it is lost.

At random times during a wave, a runt will attempt to escape and run through the horizontal section of the arena. The player must move into that section and touch the runt before it collides with the ends of the arena, which are deadly to the touch. If the runt is not rescued, an energy meter at the top of the screen will shrink. It will shrink again if an enemy character is not destroyed during its pass through the arena. If the bar disappears, the game ends. The game also ends if the player loses all energy balls, either through failing to catch them or through a collision with an enemy character.

After the player completes five waves, the player faces a random attack wave where the enemies can be of any type at any time. Prior to the start of the random wave, the energy meter returns to full length and the player receives bonus points for their remaining stock of energy balls. Points are also scored for each enemy destroyed and each runt rescued.

Development
According to programmer Steve Woita, the game was playtested by a group of young girls who kept saying, "It's not like Ms. Pac-Man." Based on this Atari decided to only produce 10,000 carts, assuming it would be a flop.

Legacy
Quadrun was part of the 2005 Atari Anthology, a collection of classic games for the then-current Xbox and PlayStation 2 consoles. It was also included on the plug-and-play Atari Flashback 2.

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Talk:National Assembly (Hungary)

from VfD:

This article now has a redirection to assembly, which incorrectly suggests to the reader, when they find a link, that they'll be able to read an article on the subject: National Assembly of Hungary is obviously not identical with assembly itself.

--Adam78 00:31, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I've taken a quick whack at rewriting this into a real article. Keep that and expand it. --DMG413 02:32, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Rewrite is good.   — Gwalla | Talk 02:40, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Rewrite is good. —Stormie 04:13, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep rewrite. Excellent work team! Andrewa 06:56, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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Új Kezdet in LMP
Regarding the edit adding Új Kezdet to the infobox, an explaination: In the article for the Knesset, the infobox lists parties who form fractions with different parties. For example, Kulanu is legally seperate from Likud, but in the Knesset Kulanu is considered part of Likud. This predecent can also be used for Új Kezdet, which is legally a seperate party and simply forms a parliamentary group with LMP. Krisztina Hohn is the leader of Új Kezdet, and LMP calls her "leader of Új Kezdet and member of the LMP faction", thus implying she is not a member of LMP but only of its parliamentary faction. MatryoshkaNL (talk) 22:47, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Again, please do not confuse Knesset article with this one. Two different countries, with different rules. As I explained, in the Hungarian parliament factions exist and independents, not third option. You need 5 representatives to form a faction, below that you are officially independent, regardless which party member you are. The representative we are discussing is member of the LMP faction. The LMP link has nothing to with this, it could be like leader of McDonalds Hungary and member of the LMP fraction, or anything. Irrelevant.(KIENGIR (talk) 18:46, 26 October 2020 (UTC))
 * Kristina Hohn is not a member of LMP. MatryoshkaNL (talk) 16:05, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * But the parlamentiary faction of it.(KIENGIR (talk) 08:18, 29 October 2020 (UTC))
 * Just noticed that this very page has an instance of parties within a fraction being listed seperately: the 16 members of the KDNP are not members of Fidesz, but are listed seperate within "Fidesz-KDNP group". LMP and ÚK is the same thing. MatryoshkaNL (talk) 18:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * .:::Is is not the same, since Fidesz and KDNP participated in the elections as party-alliance (thus had to complete 10% in order to enter the Parliament), and both Fidesz and KDNP is listed under Fidesz-KDNP. ÚK only later entered into the faction, etc.(KIENGIR (talk) 07:53, 30 October 2020 (UTC))

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Category talk:Military equipment

Anyone else think there's some definite overlap between this and Category: Weapons?

If so, should one of these be a subset of the other? Oberiko 00:36, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Weapons are now under "Military equipment by type."

Hierarchy
Since this is essentially the root of all military related technology, I'm going to propose a hierarchy here.

We should have three main sorting criteria: era, type and nationality.

Era
The eras I suggest are similar to those used on the weapons page: (Note: added period boundaries - eras include bookend time around the specific event that may have given the era its name. Joshbaumgartner 02:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC))

 * Ancient (all weapons up to the Middle Ages)
 * Middle Ages
 * Can cover all from the fall of Rome up to the Age of Exploration.
 * Age of Exploration (mostly naval)
 * Covers the 16th Century
 * Age of Sail (ships only)
 * Only for classification of ships, due to their unique development path. Covers from the beginning of the 17th Century through the middle of the 19th Century.
 * Victorian Age
 * Era covers the second half of the 19th Century
 * World War I
 * Generally from the beginning of the 20th Century through the end of World War I (1900-1919)
 * Interwar period (Aircraft only)
 * Only aircraft had enough development to warrant seperating this out, covers aircraft developed after World War I but which weren't part of World War II.
 * World War II
 * For most, anything from after World War I through the end of World War II (1920-1945), for aircraft maybe not those of the Interwar Period.
 * Cold War
 * Everything from after WWII through the end of the Cold War (1945-1990)
 * Modern
 * Everything from the end of the Cold War through today (1990-Present)
 * Future
 * Planned, proposed, and hypothetical items.

We can place specific conflicts within the various eras: Vietnam military equipment would be a subcategory of Cold War military equipment etc.

Additional periods can be created to fit the needs of the specific country and/or type of equipment. Joshbaumgartner 02:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Type
Our main types would differ somewhat according to the era, but I think the main types would be:
 * Vehicles
 * Armored fighting vehicles
 * Naval ships
 * Aircraft
 * Personal equipment
 * Space equipment
 * Weapons 1

1 - Weapons includes the following: Guns, bombs, missiles etc. There is thus some overlap with personal equipment and weapons.

The type list will undoubtedly get larger, but I think we can subcategorize mostly within those boundries. Oberiko 16:37, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

In Defense of My Putting "Tomahawk" in this Category
The page on Tomahawk says it was used as a melee weapon during Vietnam, and is now used sometimes in Iraq for breaking down doors and fighting once inside.

Military Systems
Ok, so I am totally confused as to where to put military systems like ABCS and FBCB2. These two systems are Battle Command related and they do not quite fit into the Category:Military electronics or any other category besides Category:Military equipment. Are ABCS and FBCB2 weapons? Yes, but not in the traditional sense.

The categorization being used does not take into account the current organizational method of system/sub-system and mounting/un-mounting as in the case of mounting/un-mounting sensors into a vehicle. Honestly, I do not think that the implication of "serving to equip" in the word "equipment" is of benefit to categorization. I really believe that "system" is a much better word.

Furthermore, the Wikipedia Commons categorization does not seem to mirror at all the categorization used here.

What do y'all propose that I do? Thank you in advance for your help in this matter.

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Maclyn McCarty

Maclyn McCarty (June 9, 1911 – January 2, 2005) was an American geneticist, a research scientist described in 2005 as "the last surviving member of a Manhattan scientific team that overturned medical dogma in the 1940s and became the first to demonstrate that genes were made of DNA." He had worked at Rockefeller University "for more than 60 years." 1994 marked 50 years since this work's release.

McCarty devoted his life as a physician-scientist to studying infectious disease organisms, and was best known for his part in the monumental discovery that DNA, rather than protein, constituted the chemical nature of a gene. Uncovering the molecular secret of the gene in question — that for the capsular polysaccharide of pneumococcal bacteria — led the way to studying heredity not only through genetics but also through chemistry. The team responsible for this feat is known as the Avery–MacLeod–McCarty experiment. He died from congestive heart failure.

Early life
McCarty was born in South Bend, Indiana. He was the second of four sons; his father was a branch manager for the Studebaker Corporation while it was still a firm for horse-drawn carriages.

As an undergraduate at Stanford University, he began his studies in the nascent field of biochemistry, working with James Murray Luck on protein turnover in the liver. He "graduated in 1933 from Stanford, where he majored in biochemistry" and then "went on to earn his medical degree at Johns Hopkins University in 1937." After four more years there and at New York University "he moved to Rockefeller" where he met his future research teammates.

Early Rockefeller years
MacLeod, over a number of years of research, had resolved several thorny technical issues, so that by the time McCarty arrived at the Rockefeller University, Avery's team had paved the way for McCarty. Their progress over the next three years is described in McCarty's memoir The Transforming Principle, written in the early 1980s.

McCarty's arrival at Rockefeller University was also marked by another milestone, namely, the development of a reagent assay to positively correlate DNA with biological activity. In 1944 they published in the Journal of Experimental Medicine about their work.

Acceptance of the concept that "genes are DNA" was a slow process. Skepticism and being ignored, at least in the New York research institutions abounded. There were challenges associated with research, which made it especially difficult to attract other investigators to pursue it. Few people had the necessary expertise. One needed to use mice for corroboration. However, by 1953, influenced by the enormous impact of Watson and Crick's bihelical structure of DNA, the majority of researchers had fully accepted the 1944 paper.

Later career years
A 1946 retirement resulted in McCarty being asked to head a specialized 1922-established laboratory. This lab was the scientific home of Rebecca Lancefield, who developed a major classification system. His work, combined with hers, made it clear that conditions affecting the joints and the heart resulted from infections several weeks earlier. The causal chain of events still eludes us. McCarty attacked this problem by studying both the biology and Rockefeller Hospital patients with acute rheumatic fever.

Together with his students and collaborators, over the next 20 years, McCarty's work changed the understanding of the organism from a gram-positive streptococcus with a particular serological characteristic to one of the best characterized bacterial species. Work on bacterial cell-wall anatomy and chemistry was just beginning. His work led to the isolation of the streptococcal cell wall as a structural entity suitable for anatomic inspection by electronmicroscopy. Chemical dissection led to characterization of the group A–specific polysaccharide and the peptidoglycan, and the identification of its serological specificity in the terminal hexosamine. In order to prove this specificity, he first had to identify and purify a specific enzyme that cleaved hexosamine (a hexosaminidase) from a soil organism. Treating the polysaccharide with this enzyme abrogated its serological reactivity. McCarty further demonstrated the precise configuration of the hexosamine linkage by synthesizing both α- and β-N-acetyl-glucosamine ovalbumin and showing that only the second reacted with group A antisera. A similar analytical strategy indicated that the polysaccharide of group C streptococci differed by having a terminal β-N-acetyl galactosamine as the serological determinant.

In parallel, McCarty studied patients with rheumatic fever admitted to the Rockefeller Hospital as well as valuable specimen collections from military outbreaks of the disease during World War II. He and his collaborators found that antibody responses to several streptococcal antigens were significantly higher in the group of individuals that developed acute rheumatic fever than in individuals with uncomplicated infection. However, the response to unrelated antigens, for instance, diphtheria toxoid, was not enhanced. He found that group A streptococci secreted unusually high amounts of DNase, and established a test for the detection of antibodies produced in response to this antigen. This led to the discovery that streptococci were able to produce multiple isozymes of DNase. He purified human C-reactive protein through crystallization, produced a highly specific antiserum, and, using this much simpler and more sensitive test, found that C-reactive protein levels responded more rapidly and reliably than other inflammatory markers and could serve as the most accurate indicator of rheumatic inflammatory activity. Measuring C-reactive protein levels to detect inflammation is routine now in medical practice.

In his later years, McCarty increasingly served as a statesman of the biomedical sciences. He served for 14 years as the physician-in-chief of the Rockefeller University Hospital, and as a trusted adviser and the vice president of the Rockefeller University. Outside the university, his leadership was sought by the New York City Health Research Council, the Helen Hay Whitney Foundation, the Institute of Medicine (as a charter member), and numerous university visiting boards. For more than 40 years, as editor, he placed his stamp of excellence and integrity on the Journal of Experimental Medicine. He was a member of the United States National Academy of Sciences, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and the American Philosophical Society.

Personal life
McCarty's scientific interests and energy had a counterpart in his rich personal life. Along with his second wife, Marjorie, McCarty had a wide circle of very close friends, both in the United States and abroad, who cherished his personal warmth, his low key, spare, and pragmatic character, his wit, and his wide-ranging intellect. He loved English literature, theater, and symphonies. He loved to wander the streets and the museums of the great cities of the world, particularly, Paris, New York, and London, and frequently visited overseas following his retirement. Moreover, he remained close to his family; the four brothers, living in different parts of the country, never failed to meet for annual reunions.

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--Alex 08:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC) This article should be moved to Biochemical engineering (note the capitalization change) in accordance with the WP policy on Naming conventions. I will make the move within in about 24 hours if there is no opposition. --Whosyourjudas (talk) 00:38, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Don't hold your breath, Judas. I did it. Generally, I would not seek consensus for something that is clearly undisputed policy. I move many miscapitalised pages a week, and nobody ever discusses it with me :-) JFW | T@lk  00:53, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * PS deletion of a redirect, in anticipation of a page move, requires admin action.

 * Sounds good; just being overly cautious. But you don't need an admin; a move cannot be done "unless it is empty or a redirect" according to the "move" page. Lowercase-e was just a redirect. Whosyourjudas (talk) 02:44, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

We should have a separate article on Bioreactor. And many more concepts can be added to the Bioreactor design part. What we really do in Biorector design is not stressed upon. --Victor.P.Das 15:13, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

This was in the article itself, I guess someone didn't know how to use the talk page:

"Bioreactor info should have its own page. It shoulnd't be listed under this meager "biochemical engineering" page."

I wanted to link the page bioreactor to chemostat (and vice versa). I was a little surprised that bioreactor and this page were "merged". I'll link to this page instead. PER9000 06:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Article Title
I'm a little surprised this article is tiled "Biochemical Engineering", the content of the page deals only with Bioreactors. I assume the article on the main topic of biochemistry is under "Biochemistry", and unless a separate article is developed for biochemical engineering, then this should be a stub(?) of biochemistry.

James Matthew 00:24, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't there be a reference to "Downstream processing" - as far as I am concerned, a major part of the engineering and the costs are associated with the purification of the reactor harvest. Also, the process of taking care of the bulk product warrants an article "Fill and finish" or similar. Or is this covered somewhere else?!

A. Trandom 20:12, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Merge Bioprocess engineering with Biochemical engineering
I propose merging Bioprocess engineering into Biochemical engineering. Both articles claim that they are synonyms of each other.Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:37, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Support (I note the move was proposed, above, in 2006!) GooglerW (talk) 15:34, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

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Suvi-Anne Siimes

Sini Maaria Suvi-Anne Siimes (born 1 June 1963, in Helsinki) is a former chair of the Finnish Left Alliance. She quit the party in 2006 because she did not want to support the party's former taistoists (orthodox pro-Soviet communists).

Before her political career, she had several short teaching posts in University of Helsinki and Kauppakorkeakoulu and she was planning a scientist / researcher career in economic sciences Her political career started in local politics in Pohja (a small town in South-Western Finland)

She was chairperson of the Finnish Left Alliance 1998–2006 and was a member of the Finnish Parliament (Eduskunta) from 1999 to 2007. She served as a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee and a delegate for Finland in the Nordic Council. In the two Cabinets of Paavo Lipponen (1995–2003), Siimes served as the Coordinate Minister for Culture (1998–1999) and as the Minister of Finance (1999–2003). From 1995 to 2000, she was a deputy member of the European Union Committee on Regional Development.

In March 2006 she resigned from the Left Alliance, stating she didn't want to support the election of former taistoists like Jaakko Laakso to the Parliament of Finland in the next elections 2007 and that she could not continue in politics after she had not succeeded in making the Left Alliance what she termed a "modern" leftist political party with "modern European attitudes" and practices, such as working as a lobbyist for pharmaceutical companies.

In her book (Politiikan julkisivu) published after she left politics in March 2007, she tells in detail what made her to quit her very successful political career (in election 1999 over 16,000 personal votes and 2003 over 17,000 votes, a number that showed that she was one of the most popular politicians in Finnish political life 1999–2003)

In the 2009 European elections, Siimes endorsed Risto Penttilä, a National Coalition Party candidate.

Siimes is now working as Director General of Pharma Industry Finland.

She was appointed Chairman of the Board of Veikkaus (the Finnish National Lottery) on 16 March 2011.

Siimes has a licentiate (advanced degree) in economics.

Publications

 * Amerikan päiväkirja ja muita kirjoituksia (2000)
 * Politiikan piilokuvat (2002)
 * Politiikan julkisivu (2007)

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ESPN Zone

ESPN Zone was a theme restaurant and entertainment center chain in the United States that included arcades, TV studios, and radio studios, operated by the Disney Regional Entertainment subsidiary of Walt Disney Parks and Resorts using the Disney-owned ESPN brand. While the ESPN Zone name is no longer used, similar, the ESPN Grill at ESPN Wide World of Sports is located within the Walt Disney World complex in Bay Lake, Florida with counter service and light theming. ESPN Club at Disney's BoardWalk Resort closed in 2022.

Background
In 1992, Art Levitt conceived of an ESPN/Disney project, while he was Disney Parks and Resorts vice president of resorts and special projects, to increase Disney's Pleasure Island's attractions. Levitt's concept was "to put an ESPN experience in Disney World". Despite discussions with ESPN, the project was not immediately given the green light. Levitt exited Disney for the CEO post at Hard Rock Cafe International. The ESPN Club sports bar, at Walt Disney World with 13,000 square feet of TV screens, was a modest attempt that came from those discussions, and drew enough attendance as a proof of concept. The restaurant opened on July 1, 1996, at the BoardWalk entertainment complex.

A similar project, Sports Center USA, led by Lynda O'Dea working with ABC Sports, attempted to get started in the early 1990s with its selected first location at Baltimore's Power Plant. A lack of financing ended this project that was done in conjunction with Capital Cities/ABC, Inc.

History
With Disney's purchase of Capital Cities/ABC in 1996, ESPN was a key part of the purchase, which Disney chair/CEO Michael Eisner then moved into additional brand extensions from biweekly sports magazine, ESPN-themed restaurants, video games to retail stores. With Levitt having the original idea in 1992, Eisner turned to him to head up Disney Regional Entertainment, the subsidiary that would start up and run the chain.

The concept was originally called ESPN Grill when announced in October 1997, with a slate of major city locations scheduled to start with Baltimore, Maryland, in mid-1998 and Chicago in spring 1999. ESPN Grill was renamed on December 29, 1997, to ESPN Zone to connote that there was more to the venue. The first ESPN Zone opened in Baltimore, Maryland, on July 11, 1998, in the Power Plant on the Inner Harbor.

The Chicago location opened on July 10, 1999, in the North Bridge development where DisneyQuest, a fellow Disney Regional chain, opened a month earlier. After the Chicago location opening, there was to be a new location every three months.

Closures
In 2009, Disney Regional Entertainment closed two ESPN Zone locations. A restaurant in Denver closed in June, and another in Atlanta closed in October of that year. The Atlanta location had opened in 2000, while the Denver location opened in 2001. In both cases, Disney Regional Entertainment cited the "economic environment" as the reason for the closures. In June 2010, all but two locations were shuttered, with the remaining restaurants located in Southern California. As part of the decision by Walt Disney Parks and Resorts, through their Disney Regional Entertainment division, to no longer operate the restaurants in 2010, they sold the rights to operate the location in Anaheim to Zone Enterprises of Anaheim, another Disney subsidiary, and the L.A. Live location to Anschutz Entertainment Group, which owns the L.A. Live complex.

Baltimore lawsuit
Employees at the Baltimore ESPN Zone filed a class action lawsuit against Disney and its local subsidiary after the 2010 closing, claiming that Disney had violated the Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act of 1988. U.S. federal district judge Catherine C. Blake, in a January 2013 decision, found that Disney and its local subsidiary violated the Act by failing to notify workers of the closing and underpaying them. Disney and the employees settled the lawsuit in November 2013; Disney paid approximately 70 percent of the employees' back pay.

Final closures
The Los Angeles location, housed in the ESPN West Coast headquarters building, closed in July 2013.

In October 2017, Disney announced plans to replace ESPN Zone and other Downtown Disney vendors at the Disneyland Resort with a resort hotel (which has since been canceled), in conjunction with the opening of Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge in 2019. The restaurant closed on June 2, 2018.

Features
The prototype ESPN Zone was a two-level, 35,000 square foot complex with a stadium-like design which could hold 550 customers. People could dine at the bar or restaurant area. 200 TV screens were hung from the walls and ceilings. There were two special rooms, a screening room and a 10,000 square foot arena for actual and virtual game play.

ESPN Zone incorporated sports news into daily operations. Each shift, all staff were to receive daily sports news briefings. Placemats would be generated daily as a mini-sports page of a newspaper. The chain was to change its exclusive program, games, and memorabilia regularly.

Broadcast facility
All of the ESPN Zone restaurants were equipped to be remote ESPN broadcast locations, though only two were used to house regular series. The Anaheim ESPN Zone was the home of Unscripted with Chris Connelly, from 2001 to 2002. The ESPN Zone in New York City's Times Square was used as the location of the Monday Night Football halftime show for several years. The weekly series The Sports Reporters was broadcast from the Times Square location every Sunday morning from its opening until its closing, at which point the show moved to ESPN's home base in Bristol, Connecticut.

Several of the locations also had radio studios, used by the local ESPN Radio affiliate and leased to other stations on occasion.

Events
ESPN Zone hosted the Ultimate Couch Potato Competition, a competitive sitting competition. In 2009, competitions were held in New York, Chicago and Baltimore. The Baltimore winner, Jessica Mosley, unofficially broke the Guinness World Record by sitting and watching consecutive sports for an unprecedented 70 hours, and 45 seconds. She repeated as Baltimore champion in 2010. The 2009 event received attention nationally, as well as from international outlets like the popular Australian television show Sunrise. Jeff Miller, the 2010 winner in Chicago, broke an ESPN Zone record and also unofficially broke the Guinness World Record by watching 72 hours of non-stop sports and his third win in the competition.

Former locations

 * Atlanta, Georgia
 * Downtown Disney, Disneyland Resort, Anaheim, California
 * Pratt Street Power Plant, Inner Harbor, Baltimore, Maryland
 * Denver, Colorado
 * Chicago, Illinois
 * New York-New York Hotel and Casino, Las Vegas Strip, Paradise, Nevada
 * L.A. Live, Los Angeles, California
 * Times Square, New York City, New York
 * Thurman Arnold Building, Downtown, Washington, District of Columbia

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Garden fork

A garden fork, spading fork, or digging fork (in the past also an asparagus fork, the same name as a very different utensil) is a gardening implement, with a handle and a square-shouldered head featuring several (usually four) short, sturdy tines. It is used for loosening, lifting and turning over soil in gardening and farming, and not to be confused with the pitchfork, a similar tined tool used for moving (or throwing) loose materials such as hay, straw, silage, and manure.

A garden fork is used similarly to a spade in loosening and turning over soil. Its tines allow it to be pushed more easily into the ground, and it can rake out stones and weeds and break up clods, it is not so easily stopped by stones, and it does not cut through weed roots or root-crops. Garden forks were originally made of wood, but the majority are now made of forged carbon steel or stainless steel.

Reflecting their differing uses, garden forks have shorter, flatter, thicker, and more closely spaced tines than pitchforks. They have comparatively a fairly short, stout, usually wooden handle, typically with a D- or T-shaped grab at the end.

A smaller version of such forks with shorter, closer-spaced, thinner tines (but a full-sized handle) is known as a border fork or ladies' fork, and is used for lighter work, such as weeding amongst other plants. Forks with broader, flatter tines are made for lifting potatoes and other root crops from the ground. A pair of forks back-to-back may used to lever apart dense clumps of roots.

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Talk:United States invasion of Panama

United States' justification for the invasion
Shouldn't this section be on international law, rather than US domestic politics?Keith-264 (talk) 13:11, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The international law part, which doesn't support the US very much, is pretty well covered under the international reaction section isn't it?Especially since the US didn't seek any international approval. So it had the reasons it felt justified, invaded, then there was international reaction and those pointing out the international law issues. Chronological does seem to work.Niteshift36 (talk) 13:15, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Sources are good
I have removed the parenthetical from the paragraph about the journalist. I don't particularly care if it's true or not; it's not supported by the provided source, which nowhere says anything about tanks.

I have removed the wording from the same paragraph calling it a "lawsuit". Again, this is not supported by the source. The word "sue" does not necessitate that it be a "lawsuit". For something to be a lawsuit, it needs to involve a court of law. If it does not involve a court of law, it is not a lawsuit. Thus the "law" in "lawsuit".

If these changes are undone without providing sufficient sourcing, I will undo them. If this results in an edit war I will happily go to ANI.Timothyjosephwood (talk) 02:04, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I have no intention of changing it. Niteshift36 (talk) 02:07, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Moving list of units
Any opinions on moving the list of US units to a separate location? It adds a lot of length that isn't really needed, especially since the bulk of units aren't notable in and of themselves. Niteshift36 (talk) 16:56, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Raising this again. If there's no objection, I'm moving them. 5 years is a long enough wait for input.Niteshift36 (talk) 14:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Using the term "so-called"
So what would you like to discuss about it Glrx? You've reverted twice in a short period of time and given me a bogus 3RR warning, but you've failed to express why you think the term needs removed. I asked you to discuss and you dodged it by claiming that "the way it works" is that I have to start the discussion. Fine, here it is.....this is where you can discuss why you've reverted twice without explaining why it needs removed in either deletion. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:03, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Emt1299d clearly stated that your introduction of "so-called" was a "Not needed insertion". My reverts seconded that viewpoint.
 * You have not given any reason to say "so-called" in Wikipedia's voice.
 * I see no reason to use an unsourced WP:POV term for a report that hasn't been produced yet.
 * Glrx (talk) 18:02, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Emt1299d used a canned summary and it was incorrect. It was clearly not vandalism or a test edit. He has not contested the revert and went so far as to thank me for the revert edit. What you have is sources repeating what the biased originator of the source is calling it. The panel, which has a stated agenda, is calling it a "truth report", but that's their name for it. The very name implies that there was a lie that needs corrected and that's an opinion on their part. "So-called" is not POV. It indicates that this panel is calling it that name. It makes no judgement on the accuracy of it. Niteshift36 (talk) 18:11, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

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Why do we give a non-notable author his own paragraph?
A non-notable author named Stewart Brewer wrote a non-notable book called "Borders and Bridges: A History of U.S.-Latin American Relations" Why are we giving an entire paragraph to his opinion? There are many non-notable people who have written non-notable books that are still reliable sources. Why does this man merit inclusion over any of those? Why is his POV being given that weight? Niteshift36 (talk) 18:36, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Niteshift36 invented his complaint from thin air. "Notability" of a scholar is NOT a Wikipedia criteria--we have the ingredients we want --a scholarly book from a major publisher (Praeger) and favorable reviews testify to its RS status. It is included in a major review article in the leading scholarly journal on Lat Am in its coverage of the 8 most important recent books in English and Spanish in Recent Works On U.S.-Latin American Relations," Latin American Research Review'' (2009) pp 247-56. The book is a well-regarded scholarly survey that presents an important position.  Inclusion is required by WP:NPOV rules. Rjensen (talk) 21:32, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * A textbook publisher. It may have been reviewed someplace, but how you go from that to being "required" is the real invention here. We're not required to pick out a random quote from a random book and put it in this article. His (lack of) notability is a factor. Yes, non-notables can be used, but there's usually a reason for it. Just picking out this guy and saying we're required doesn't wash. There are many authors that have an opinion. If this guy was notable or the book had received a lot of significant coverage by reliable third party sources, there may be a case for it. But trying to invoke NPOV improperly doesn't do it. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:45, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Weapons and advisors (failed verification)
The infobox cites page 6 of Ronald H. Cole's Operation Just Cause: The Planning and Execution of Joint Operations in Panama for the claim that Cuba, Nicaragua and Libya provided "Weapons and advisors" to Panama in the conflict. The source does not support this claim. It says that in the years leading up to the war Libya provided economic assistance to Panama in exchange for military access, while Cuba and Nicaragua provided weapons and military advisors.

While it is possible that those weapons and military advisors were involved in this particular conflict, the source does not say so, and it is misleading to include them without a source to support the claim; otherwise, it makes it seems like Cuba and Nicaragua actively supported Panama in the conflict, when that may not necessarily have been the case. --Joshua Issac (talk) 17:54, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

 * I have removed the above entries, as well as further unsourced additions (USSR and North Korea). --Joshua Issac (talk) 19:01, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

The 37 TFW is in error
The 37 TFW never had the F-117 stealth fighter, and was in the start of selling all their F-4's in 1989, when the invasion started. The base was decommissioned in 1991. The link in the article actually goes to the 37th Training Wing, not a fighter wing. Also, the 7th AMU from Holloman AFB took several F-15's there, which is not listed. I know, because people I worked with at the 7th went, I was supposed to go the next day on the second wave, but we weren't needed. MacD723 (talk) 17:52, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

 * Addition of 4 F-16's from Hill AFB, Utah.
 * I was there with the 388TFW EMU (Equipment Maintenance Unit) from Hill AFB, Utah as an ABDR (Air battle damage structural repairman) on the flightline during the attack. We were there with 4 f-16's supporting air to air and air to ground support. I believe the aircraft were from the 34th TFW but the 388th at that time supported the 4th, 34th, and 421st squadrons. I notice that there is no mention of the F-16's, the 388TFW or any squadron noting the F-16 activity. I may be able to provide pictures and orders. 2601:681:577E:460:A03C:ACD2:B1D6:80D9 (talk) 00:27, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Zucchini

Nutrition
"1/2 cup of zucchini also contains 19% of the recommended amount of Manganese, which activates the body's fat burning enzymes, resulting in a faster metabolism." There is no source for this statement. RebelWithoutASauce

Rename article to Courgette
The article should be renamed as a courgette. RyanPLB (talk) 20:36, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed but you'll need to find good sources to support it getting changed. (for example, show that zucchini is american only and the rest of the world says courgette).  The C of E God Save the King!  ( talk ) 14:15, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Judging from Talk:Maize, US editors wouldn't rest until "zucchini" was restored. It's fine as it is; neither name is ambiguous (unlike "corn") and the redirect deals with usage in those countries that use "courgette". Peter coxhead (talk) 17:31, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

I don't understand why US editors get the final say though? RyanPLB (talk) 21:55, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * They don't, but when there's no other reason to prefer one title over another, numbers count. I get about twice as many Google hits for "zucchini" than for "courgette" – there are more native speakers of English in North American than elsewhere. Peter coxhead (talk) 22:27, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It seems like they do to me. I realise that there may be more English speakers within North America. However, does that mean you're shirking the English speakers within Europe? Sounds to me like you are... Do they not matter? RyanPLB (talk) 11:16, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Tassadar

Removed text from article
Tassadar is a hero unit in StarCraft. He is a Protoss High Templar with all technologies researched, as well as the attack that High Templar had removed from the normal StarCraft game, Psi Assault. Psi Assault is a short-range ground-only attack that deals normal damage.

Tassadar also pilots the Gantrithor, the Carrier hero unit.

The Archon hero unit is a named Tassadar/Zeratul, but Tassadar and Zeratul never merge in the StarCraft storyline.

—Joseph | Talk 00:41, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)

Spoiler without warning
I removed the caption "Tassadar, moments before his death" because it is an unmarked spoiler.

/pre I think we should make a memorial page for tassadar so people can come to pay their respects to this true hero /pre

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pmachine

Pmachine
Press release. Garrett Albright 00:42, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Advert for non-notable CMS software.   — Gwalla | Talk 02:44, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Advert. jni 08:29, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: Press release. Geogre 20:49, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Will consider changing my vote if someone turns it into something that isn't a press release. Gamaliel 21:04, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)


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Bad Education (2004 film)

Bad Education (La mala educación, also meaning 'bad manners') is a 2004 Spanish drama film written and directed by Pedro Almodóvar. Starring Gael García Bernal, Fele Martínez, Daniel Giménez Cacho, Lluís Homar and Francisco Boira, the film focuses on two reunited childhood friends and lovers caught up in a stylized murder mystery. The metafictional film uses a deeply-nested narrative plot structure to explore themes of transsexuality, drug use, rape, and sexual abuse by Catholic priests. The film received an NC-17 rating in the United States for its depiction of homosexual sex.

The film was released on 19 March 2004 in Spain and 10 September 2004 in Mexico. It was also screened at many international film festivals such as Cannes, New York, Moscow and Toronto before its US release on 19 November 2004. The film received critical acclaim, and was seen as a return to Almodovar's dark stage, placing it alongside films such as Matador (1986) and Law of Desire (1987).

Plot
In 1980 Madrid, struggling film director Enrique Goded is looking for his next project when he receives an unexpected visit from an actor looking for work. The actor claims to be Enrique's boarding school friend and first love, Ignacio Rodriguez. Ignacio, who is now using the name Ángel Andrade, has brought along a short story titled "The Visit", hoping that Enrique would be interested in filming it—and giving him the starring role. Enrique is intrigued since "The Visit" describes their time together at the Catholic boarding school and also includes a fictional account of their reunion years later as adults.

"The Visit" is set in 1977. It tells the story of a transgender drag queen with the stage name Zahara, whose birth name is Ignacio. Zahara plans to rob a drunken admirer but discovers that the man is her boyhood lover Enrique Serrano, so she defiles him in his sleep instead. The encounter stirs angry memories, and Zahara visits her old school to confront Father Manolo, who abused her when she was a boy. She demands one million pesetas from Manolo in exchange for halting publication of her story, also called "The Visit".

That story is set in a Catholic boarding school for boys in 1964. At the school, Ignacio, a 10-year-old student with a beautiful boy soprano voice, is the object of lust of Father Manolo, the school principal and literature teacher. Ignacio falls in love with his classmate Enrique, and the two go the local cinema and grope each other. Manolo discovers them together that night and becomes enraged. Ignacio offers to submit to the priest's molestation in exchange for having his friend not punished, but Manolo still expels Enrique anyway.

The director, Enrique Goded, wants to adapt the story but balks at Ángel's condition that he be cast as Zahara, feeling that the Ignacio he loved and the Ángel of today are totally different people. He drives to see Ignacio's mother in Ortigueira, Galicia and learns that in fact Ignacio has been dead for four years and that the man who came to his office is actually Ignacio's younger brother, Juan. Enrique's interest is piqued, so to "see how far [Juan] would go"—and without letting on what he knows—he casts Ángel/Juan in the role of Zahara. Ángel becomes Enrique's sexual partner, and Enrique revises the script so that it ends with Father Manolo, whom Zahara was trying to blackmail to get money for sex reassignment surgery, having Zahara murdered. After the scene is shot, Ángel breaks out in tears unexpectedly.

The film set is visited by Manuel Berenguer, formerly Father Manolo, who has resigned from the clergy. Berenguer confesses to Enrique that the new ending of the film is not far from the truth: Ignacio, a transsexual junkie, did blackmail him, but Berenguer managed to string her along—while mostly falling hard for Ignacio's younger brother, Juan. Juan and Berenguer, over twice as old, became sexual partners and after a while realized they both wanted Ignacio dead. Juan obtained some pure heroin which Berenguer gave to Ignacio, causing her to die from overdose after shooting up. After the crime, the relationship disintegrated, with Berenguer wanting to continue, but Juan breaking off all contact.

Now years later, meeting once again on the film set, Ángel/Juan threatens to kill Berenguer if he continues to pursue him, but Berenguer replies that he will never let him go. His pretense revealed, Juan visits Enrique to apologize, but Enrique is uninterested in Juan's weak excuses for murdering Ignacio. Before being turned away, Juan gives Enrique the letter addressed to him that Ignacio was in the middle of typing when he overdosed, reading "I think I have succeeded..."

An epilogue recounts that after the release of the film, Ángel and Enrique both achieved great success, although Ángel was relegated to television acting after "his career suffered ups and downs" in the 1990s. With Ángel now famous, Berenguer became the blackmailer, eventually leading Ángel to kill him in a hit-and-run.

Production
García Bernal was required to display a convincing Castilian Spanish accent before being cast.

The New York Times reporter Lynn Hirschberg stated that Garcia Bernal had a falling out with Almodovar over the film's content, but Garcia Bernal denies this assertion. Garcia Bernal and Almodóvar had different ideas on the type of 'inner transvestite' in terms of Bernal's performance.

Almodóvar states that he worked on the screenplay for over 10 years.

Release
The film was theatrically released in Spain on 19 March 2004. It opened in the 57th Cannes Film Festival in May 2004, the first Spanish film to do so.

Box office
The film opened theatrically in the United States on 19 November 2004 in three venues, earning $147,370 in its opening weekend, ranking number 30 in the domestic box office. At the end of its North American theatrical run (its widest release being in 106 venues), the film had grossed $5,211,842 in the United States and Canada, and $35,062,088 overseas ($7,356,224 in its home country of Spain), making $40,273,930 worldwide.

Critical response
The film received critical acclaim. Rotten Tomatoes reports that 88% of 148 reviews were positive, with an average rating of 7.6/10. The site's consensus states: "A layered, wonderfully-acted, and passionate drama." On Metacritic, the film has an 81 out of 100 rating, based on 34 critics, indicating "universal acclaim".

Ann Hornaday from The Washington Post wrote, "To watch Bad Education is to revel, along with Almodóvar, in the power of cinema to take us on journeys of breathtaking mystery and dimension and beauty." Marjorie Baumgarten from the Austin Chronicle wrote "With Bad Education, the great Almodóvar delivers the finest movie of his career." Peter Travers from Rolling Stone wrote "A rapturous masterwork." Roger Ebert gave the film three and a half stars out of four writing "Pedro Almodovar's new movie is like an ingenious toy that is a joy to behold, until you take it apart to see what makes it work, and then it never works again. While you're watching it, you don't realize how confused you are, because it either makes sense from moment to moment or, when it doesn't, you're distracted by the sex. Life is like that."

Accolades

 * rowspan = "6" align = "center" | 2005
 * rowspan = "4" | 19th Goya Awards || colspan = "2" | Best Film || Nominated || rowspan = "4" |
 * Best Director || Pedro Almodóvar || Nominated
 * Best Art Direction || Antxón Gómez || Nominated
 * Best Production Supervision || Esther García || Nominated
 * rowspan = "2" | 14th Actors and Actresses Union Awards || Best Film Actor in a Leading Role || Gael García Bernal || Nominated || rowspan = "2" |
 * Best Film Actor in a Minor Role || Javier Cámara || Won
 * }
 * Best Production Supervision || Esther García || Nominated
 * rowspan = "2" | 14th Actors and Actresses Union Awards || Best Film Actor in a Leading Role || Gael García Bernal || Nominated || rowspan = "2" |
 * Best Film Actor in a Minor Role || Javier Cámara || Won
 * }
 * Best Film Actor in a Minor Role || Javier Cámara || Won
 * }

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Naut Humon

Naut Humon is a San Francisco-based composer, curator, performer, and leader in experimental electronic music and audiovisual projects such as Rhythm & Noise, Sound Traffic Control. He is the Founder and Artistic Director of Recombinant Media Labs (RML) and its internationally touring project RML CineChamber.

Biography
Humon began his career in the arts as a child actor in Seattle. Cellar-M was a musical project of Humon, percussionist Z'EV took part in this project. He eventually moved to San Francisco in the early 70's to stage underground performances that operated outside of the traditional theater.

Humon is a founding member of the experimental music ensemble Rhythm & Noise, who released two albums on Ralph Records. Humon has also worked with avant-garde vocalist and composer Diamanda Galás, providing samples for her album The Divine Punishment, as well as percussionist Z'EV. He has served on the Digital Musics jury of the Ars Electronica festival in Linz, Austria every year and is the founder of Recombinant Media Labs and was head of A&R for Asphodel Records, both based in San Francisco. He is featured in the 2001 documentary film Scratch.

Asphodel Records
Humon is well known as co-founder of Asphodel Records and working with early artists in electronic and ambient music. Artists included Ann Magnuson, Christian Marclay, Curtis Roads, DJ Spooky, Iannis Xenakis, Invisibl Skratch Piklz, John Cage, Mix Master Mike, Richard Devine, Robert Rich, Ryuichi Sakamoto, and the X-Ecutioners.

Recombinant Media Labs
In 1991 Humon founded Recombinant Media Labs ("RML").

In 2012 he was the artistic director behind the 360 degree surround audio and visual CineChamber, an art installation put on at MUTEK. The CineChamber commissioned important pieces by Alva Noto and Blixa Bargeld, Ryoji Ikeda, Maryanne Amacher, Christian Fennesz, Biosphere, Ryoichi Kurokawa, Speedy J & Scott Pagano, Chris Watson, Thomas Brinkmann, Monolake, Pan Sonic, Poie, Matmos, Rrose, and Christian Marclay.

Recombinant Festival
In 2016, Humon and RML created the first festival Recombinant Festival with a permanent home in San Francisco's Gray Area Foundation for the Arts. From September 26, 2016 until October 2, 2016, artists pieces performed include Maryanne Amacher, Scott Arford, Tarik Barri, Biosphere, Jefre Cantu-Ledesma, Paul Clipson, Cut Hands, Christian Fennesz, Robert Henke, Kurt Hentschläger, Ryoichi Kurokawa, Ulf Langheinrich, Lillevan, Egbert Mittelstadt, Scott Pagano, Jochem Papp, Markus Popp aka Oval, Semiconductor, and Masako Tanaka.

In 2017, the Recombinant Festival selected a theme, "The Fall of Love: Paradise Tossed" and took place from October 11, 2017 until October 15, 2017. Key pieces were performed by Martin Rev, Divine Enfant, People Like Us, Makino Takashi, Karl Lemieux, Michaela Grill, Philip Jeck, Grouper, Paul Clipson, Masako Tanaka, Daniel Menche, Craig Baldwin, Jeff Carey, Pedestrian Deposit, Ryoichi Kurokawa, Scott Arford, Biosphere, Egbert Mittelstadt, Lillevan, Christian Fennesz, Mark McCloud, Neha Spellfish, Layne, and Humon.

In 2018, RML announced the Recombinant Festival will take place from November 27 to December 2, 2018 with Herman Koglen as the key performer, who also created a set of three videos released on social media announcing the event.

title: Naut Humon


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