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Talk:Duke of Wellington's Regiment

First comments
The last time I checked, this was the 'Free Encyclopedia', for anyone to freely edit. This page is a mess, so all I do is try to clean it up. I have not attempted to change anything, beyond adding links. I have accepted that the Colours are displayed in a particular order, so isn't it better that they all be in a line? Shouldn't the 'Great Duke' have a link to his own page? Shouldn't the link to the regiment's website be available? User: Hammersfan 19/1/05. 11:52am

Regrettably; your editing has changed the layout of the page several times, you have changed the pixel size of the regimental colours, placed them in different shaped frames, moved them and the text around to different positions which has affected the layout, you have deleted blank lines used as spaces for formatting, causing following sections to move up the page and into the sections above, you have deleted some images (a VC Medal) and changed the layout so other images (the last two Victoria Cross recipients for example) did not appear on the page. You have moved a template's position from the top of a page to halfway down it. All these changes have resulted in phone calls to our Archive staff by readers about how bad the page looked, requiring repeated attempts by our staff to sort the mess out. which was then again edited by yourself. If so many people call us because they don't like the way you have changed things then we feel bound to change it back. Sorry if you don't like it yourself, but most others do. Please note the layout is designed to look ok on a standard 15" screen at 1400 x 1050 pixels viewed full width without side bars. We don't wish to stop any person from constructive editing it is their right. The wording 'The Great Duke' was put in as a name for one specific person in history ie the first Duke, the linked page refers to the title and subsequently all 8 Dukes of Wellington, not all of them were linked to the regiment. As for putting a link to the Regiments website, we did not feel it to be a good idea to put in a link to a Ministry of Defence edited site, so just showed the address for those who wish to view it, please note that the MOD requires all it's regiments to have their sites controlled by their webmaster after April 5th 2005 with others not permitted, I do seem to recall being advised wikipedia did not like having links to external sites which are not open source, but stand corrected if that is not so. We also do not accept personal abuse as per a message on one of our staffs talk page. Duke of Wellingtons Archives Dept 19/1/05 10:41pm

Well correct me if I'm wrong, but I think a personage of the status of this Great Duke is more than likely to have his own page on here. I also do not recall making any abusive message to anyone. Last time I checked, 'mind your own business' is hardly abusive, unless that particular individual is sensitive. However, I do not appreciate threats to try and have me banned, simply for doing what this whole site is supposed to be for, and feel that I have the right to defend myself. User:Hammersfan 21/1/05 20:40

 * Sorry to intrude on private grief, but the present formatting and layout of the page is quite poor, and simply reverting User:Hammersfan's assistance is hardly helpful. Some comments:
 * The page should look fine on any size of screen with any resolution.
 * At present, on my screen, the left-floated image overlaps the left margin, and the two top templates crowd out the main article text. An image and two templates competing for the top of the page is not helpful - Template:Duke_of_Wellingtons_Regiment_history could usefully be moved further down the page or incorporated into Template:The Duke of Wellington's Regiment.
 * The colours display in a mess all over the page.
 * There is a lot of good information, but the text is rather dense and could do with a good copyedit. In particular, the lead is not a good summary of the whole article: the second lead paragraph could usefully be incorporated into the body of the article and a replaced by a new, gentler introduction.
 * The "Other information" section duplicates information in Template:The Duke of Wellington's Regiment
 * The list of VCs is great, but surely the photos of each VC holders should appear on the person's page, rather than in a gallery here.

 * It also seems a little peculiar for User:Richard Harvey to call himself "Duke of Wellingtons Archives Dept" (I see anon reverts to the main article by User:62.252.96.6, User:62.252.96.9 and User:62.252.96.10 have used a similar designation - e.g. this one "Layout corrected by Regimental Headquarters Archives Department").  Are you connected in some official way with the Regiment?  In any event, this is a Wikipedia page, not the homepage of the Regiment: anyone can make any edits they like, subject, of course, to others editing away afterwards.  That is the wiki way.  But in any event, I am rather surprised that edits to this page have resulted in "phone calls to our Archive staff by readers about how bad the page looked, requiring repeated attempts by our staff to sort the mess out".  "Archive staff" (whoever they may be) as not responsible for this article in any way.

 * Finally, a link to the regiment's home page sounds perfectly sensible. Other than avoiding a forest of marginally relevant external links, I am not aware of any policy to limit links to open source site (if there were, there would be very few external links!).  HTH. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:48, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * The Template:Duke_of_Wellingtons_Regiment_history can probably be dropped. I made it back in the old days before categories and the links are now contained in the "Reasons for creation" section of the other template.  Also the external links for VC recipients to victoriacross.net is now completely pointless as that site has migrated its content to Wikipedia (WikiProject Victoria Cross Reference Migration). Geoff/Gsl 12:01, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks - I've just completed a very substantial copyedit, so I'd be grateful if there was a discussion here before it is reverted wholesale.

 * Rather than dropping Template:Duke_of_Wellingtons_Regiment_history, the neatest solution I could find was to merge it into Template:The Duke of Wellington's Regiment (it is also used on the pages for the 33rd and 76th, and I've adopted the same approach on those pages too).

 * I've also moved a few images around (for example, I've put the four Colours in a table so they should display in the correct relationship to each other: please complain if they are in the wrong place); added subheadings, wikified generally, and so on. I think it looks a great deal better, but please discuss here if you have objections to the changes.  -- ALoan (Talk) 14:36, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The changes done by me user:Richard Harvey are mainly uploading of images (yes I am connected with the regiment I've ten years active service ,back in the 70's and I am currently the Regimental Photo Archivist at the Regimental Headquarters in Halifax) when I started to put in images I have always tried to preserve the layout that was created by prior users, it looked good, I've not done any major text edits that has been done by others more knowledable than myself, changes marked by archives dept were done on a consensus of others in the dept, other's done by myself at home hence the change in designation.

With regard to the Colours I've uploaded. I wanted to show these in the manner in which they are carried on Parade ie in a line with the regulation colours in the centre, On my screen they appeared like that (15" flatscreen at 1400x1050 pixel) with the text at the right hand side, at the moment they appear in a box formation, with the text below, I could redo and upload them as one image if people think it is better.

The combined badge that has been swapped from further down the page into the Template in place of the regimental cap badge is incorrect, that is the insignia of the 'Regimental Association' and not the Regiment, it really needs swapping back.

Putting the Template:Duke_of_Wellingtons_Regiment_history into [Template:The Duke of Wellington's Regiment]] is a good idea it cleans the page up, but it looks lopside, can it be centralised within the second template. I prefer the item to be wikified, but only reverted User:hammersfan edits that had altered they full page layout. If I'm wrong I apologise. I'm new to wikipedia so need helping.

Phone calls were made to myself and others, by people who we have encouraged to get onto and look at the site in preference to the MOD site, they assumed we had made a mess of it and were calling us to redo it.

When I uploaded the images for the VC Recipients it was intended for them to be on the page to be viewed by people who saw the links put there previously, at that time there was no page showing them so I will now go and put the images on the user pages where they do not exist. Richard Harvey 15:43, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the explanation. I was getting a little concerned about your "ownership" of the article:  any wikipedia article is liable to be edited by other users, so whatever is there today may not to be there tomorrow.  This can lead to chaos, although blatant vandalism is usually corrected very quickly.  However, on the positive side, other users often correct spelling, grammar, layout, etc, and the result is often surprisingly good.  If someone thinks the page is a mess, the wiki answer is to "fix it yourself".

 * Re the Colours. Previously, the four images were dotted around the screen with little apparent rhyme or reason.  If you want them in a horizontal line, it could be done thus:

 * but your combined image is probably a better solution (if a little wide!).

 * Sorry if I made an error with the badge - I presumed that Image:DWR Combined Badge small.jpg was the badge of the Regiment, and Image:DWR Cap Badge small.jpg was the cap badge. If the first relates to the 'Regimental Association' only then the article probably ought to say so.

 * I agree: the pages for the VC recipients would be a better place for the images.

 * I trust you think the balance of my edits were an improvement. -- ALoan (Talk) 21:06, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Funnily enough the way you put the colours above is the way I had put them, before somebody moved them. But I do prefer the simple replacement image I've done. I have now reduced that to 600px so it should be a bit narrower (it is an 800pixel Image). Your editing of the text is far better than my friends is, which will upset him. Thank you. The combined badge is used around barracks on signs and in media items, but is not worn on clothing other than sports or members privately bought t-shirts, etc. The brigade recognition badge is the same colour as the Regiments stable belt ie red, grey, red in horizontal bands.

I have put the images for the VC recipients in their user pages, I've never liked calling them VC winners as It's not exactly a competition to get them, but an award for an exceptional act above the norm. Should the links to the old external VC site now be removed from the end of each persons name. Also I noticed in some recipients User pages some external links which don't appear to go anywhere. Richard Harvey 00:42, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Talk page comments
I don't follow the logic of blanking the talk page just due to age of the comments. Common practice seems to be to leave them in place, and archive when the pages gets over-large. Alai 06:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

BA
I have removed the BA, as wiki elsewhere doesn't add it for the literally 1000s of entries where people are entitled to such accademic post noms. The DofW surely has enough proper honours not to worry about it. It was anyway incorrectly placed (as it is on the Army website *strangely*) BA follows the DL rather then preceeding it []

I have uploaded a scanned image of the Winter 2005 Regimental Magazine Page showing information including the post nominals of the 8th Duke of Wellington. See. These are shown with the BA before the DL, which is the way the 8th DoW wishes it to be shown. Therefore, surely, it should be left that way. Unless of course you wish to write to him at Apsley House to query it yourself. Richard Harvey 00:10, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Richard as I indicated the order being used is wrong - please follow my previous link - check with the crown office or any other official source (which the regimental link most certainly isn't) for defining post nominal order. Even Wiki's entry manages to get the order right. That the duke can't get his own post nominals correct is his fault - and the armies I presume in following it blindly without checking theres - but that's no argument for any resource that wishes to be credible to follow anything but the actual rules. To put the question in your own terms - who sets the rules for the order for post nominals - It isn't the recipient. I understand your regimental pride but that is not an argument to knowingly repeat an error simply because a rightly respected individual has.

 * If you must put BA back - I'm trying to clarify if using it at all is against the manual of style put it back in the correct places as defined by the rules - this is not a regimental resource and should not repeat their doubtless entirely well meaning mistakes.Alci12 14:26, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

FAC
This article is almost good enough, in terms of content, to be a featured article - see WP:WIAFA for the criteria. Where is really falls down, at the moment, is references and citations. Would it be possible to add some more?

It may help to have a peer review first. -- ALoan (Talk) 17:44, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

6th Batallion during World War II
I have added details about the 6th Batallion and it's poor performance during the 2nd World War, more specifically, during the battle of Normandy. I will probrably add the full report by the CO of 6 Bn, DWR, when I find "Overlord" by Max Hastings. Tommy!!! 10:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

The Hook
The Hook was a geographical feature, and accordingly we refer to it with a capitalised T in 'The'. but not as 'the Hook'. Nitpicking perhaps, but its always better to have these things correct. The sub-heading 'Battle of The Hook' was change to reflect its geographical identity. Brian.Burnell 12:31, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Holland
The person who changed the words "southern Holland" to the southern Netherlands should revert the change without further ado. In English idiom, (and this was an English version of Wiki when I last checked) the term Holland is frequently used to refer to "The Kingdom of the Netherlands" to give that place its full legal title. Here in Wiki we are not producing a legal tome, but a readable reference source, and full legal descriptions are used when necessary, but readability and a good narrative flow are also important. My brother fought with the British Army to liberate the people of France, Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany. He would not (then or now) ever describe his part in this great enterprise as liberating the French Republic, The Kingdom of Belgium, The Kingdom of the Netherlands, the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg and the Third Reich. He used the short form in common use then and now, and saved what breath he could for fighting and surviving. Brian.Burnell 16:32, 31 August 2006 (UTC) Southampton, England.

 * The person who corrected this error musn't anything. There is no Roosendaal in southern Holland, period. There is one in the south of the Netherlands (nobody says you should use "The Kingdom of The Netherlands"). Getting the facts right is important. Fnorp 18:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Well ....... if getting the facts right is important ... then the language purists should aspire to that also. FACTUALLY SPEAKING .... the correct term is 'The Kingdom of the Netherlands'. But of course most sensible people will agree that some abbreviation is desirable. Pehaps I should also point out that when visiting the supermarket today I purchased some Gouda cheese. It was labelled, as all food products are labelled with its country of origin to comply with EU laws. In this case the label said 'Produced in Holland'. So it seems that the mighty European Commission in Brussels is on this side of the fence in authorizing the term 'Holland'. THe language purists must be feeling a little isolated. Brian.Burnell 03:10, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Guilford Courthouse wording
Ok, we clearly need to talk about this. In the part about the Battle of Guilford Court House, I changed "The British suffered heavy casualties but they defeated the American force, nearly twice their size." to "The British suffered heavy casualties but they forced the American force, nearly twice their size, to retreat." To me, that's more accurate, as the British army was left with a much smaller army, and the battle eventually led to the British defeat in the war. In the Battle of Guilford Court House article, it even says "Seeing this as a classic Pyrrhic victory, British Whig Party leader and war critic Charles James Fox echoed Plutarch's famous words by saying, "Another such victory would ruin the British Army!"" --Awiseman 13:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi; Sorry to take so long to reply I was rather busy elswhere.  I agree the wording is debatable, according to ones own definition of the Word defeat, also in the perceived action that led up to it, ie with or without a large and sustained battle, according to whose account of the event you read. The account of the fighting in the article Battle of Guilford Court House is not fully accurate in its description, from the history I have read by other editors. I will therefore rewrite the section in the 33rd article and leave the Battle of Guilford Court House alone, thereby allowing a comparison to be made, I do want to research some maps first though.  No doubt one or the other will be perceived as more substantial.  I do however feel that the word defeat is correct at this time.  A bit like a boxer who throws in the towel in the first round is considered to have been defeated, when others may consider it a tactical withdrawal.  So may I suggest we leave it, as is, until I can do the editing? Richard Harvey 14:13, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds fair. I guess it does depend on the definition of defeat. As for the battle, the Park Service website says the British "tactically defeated" the Americans, and calls it the "high water mark" for the British. So maybe that's the only change we need to do, "defeated" to "tactically defeated." I'd be fine with that. I'd be happy to see what changes you make too though. --Awiseman 15:03, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't the idea be to commemorate the 33rd's tenacity in this battle? Outnumbered on the offensive, they still engaged and subsequently forced the Americans to retreat. I don't want to be rude but I find it oddly perplexing that an American is grieving about what is said on a Wiki article written about a British Regiment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.64.240.129 (talk) 17:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I would have to disagree. This is an encyclopedia entry not a regimental history and, without wishing to be rude either, we should be moving on from that C19th style of writing about  military subjects. It is possible to be objective snd still do credit to the achievments being described. JF42 (talk) 10:06, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

33rd Foot Cornwallis Reenactment Company photo
Greetings!

I would like to add some information to the photo of the AWI period soldiers of the 33rd Foot. This image is a crop of a larger image taken on 29 July 2001. The original image was taken by Judy Polinsky at the Warner Brothers Ranch in Burbank, California. The original image is copyright 2001 by the 33rd Regiment of Foot, Inc. We are delighted for this image to be used in the Wiki article. The soldiers in the image are (from rear to front) Drum Rct. Matthew McGee, Rct. Thomas Fitzhenry, Pte. James Bradford, and Pte. Jacob Jenks. (Matt Ehrlich, Rick Feingold, Brett Landis, Spencer Deal) For more information on the re-created 33rd Foot, please visit: www.33rdfoot.org

Cheers! 64.236.243.16 18:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Radford Polinsky

(Serjeant John Savage, Col's Coy. HM 33rd Foot)

Kosovo deployment
Changed from company to battalion as this was a battalion deployment.

 * During early February The Dukes were doing training in the UK and only fully deployed as a battalion later in the month. I have now clarified that in the main text. Richard Harvey (talk) 12:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Battle honours
Was the 33rd Foot a recipient of the Abyssinia (battle honour)? That article does not list them as receiving it, although it mentions that it was awarded to both Indian & British army units. (If it didn't that would be odd since the 33rd Foot played such an important role, & would need to be explained.) -- llywrch (talk) 20:12, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes it was awarded to them and is mentioned on page 191 of the JM Brereton and ACS Savoury book 'The History of The Duke of Wellington's Regiment (West Riding) 1702-1992 (ISBN 0 9521552 0 6). The article On the Battle honour only appears to list the British Indian Army units that received it! Richard Harvey (talk) 23:30, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Split?
I wish to propose splitting this article. It is already 79 MB long, which is pretty big; also, it is out of step with other articles on British Regiments, which (generally have separate articles on their pre- and post-1881 incarnations. This one has a separate article, and a summary here, for the 76th Regiment of Foot, but has the detail of the 33rd Regiment here.

I would propose moving much of the content of the "Formation and name" and "33rd Regiment (1702-1881)" sections to their own page, leaving a summary (as for 76th section). The new page would be 33rd (The Duke of Wellington's) Regiment in keeping with other, similar articles.

Opinions? Xyl 54 (talk) 01:09, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

 * The article is 79kB long, not 79MB, which is nothing compared to the 164kB article on Circumcision! Having just merged the former 33rd Regiment of Foot article into this article to correct a considerable amount of incorrect information, within the separate articles I do not believe that splitting the article again would be the best thing to do. It would duplicate a considerable amount of information regarding battles, battle honours, colours, images and history. As the regiment has now itself amalgamated with two other old Yorkshire regiments, to form the Yorkshire Regiment the article is static and unlikely to change. Your suggestion may well require the updating of two or possibly three separate articles, for example when battle article are moved retitled or created. As for the summaries of the 33rd and the 76th, note that the 33rd is the Duke of Wellington's regiment, it having changed its title in 1853, the 76th became its 2nd battalion in 1881, as per the article details. Regiments that are 'split', as foot regiments, before 1881 have generally had a name change at that date, due to being two separate regiments prior to then. The section title "33rd Regiment (1702-1881)" was a bit misdirectional, so I have changed that. Richard Harvey (talk) 14:30, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Apologies for joining this debate a bit late but I support the proposal to split the article as proposed. I agree that it is out of step with other articles on British Regiments which amalgamated with other regiments in 1881 and believe the split should go ahead for that reason. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 11:19, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

 * You seem to be confused and think the Duke of Wellington's Regiment did not exist prior to 1881. Obviously you have missed the fact that the 33rd of Foot was renamed as the Duke of Wellington's in 1853, as mentioned above by Richard Harvey and in the articles regimental history. The 76th Regiment of Foot, which became the 2nd Battalion of the Duke of Wellington's in 1881 already has a separate article. The 33rd was in continuous existence from 1702 until it became part of the Yorkshire Regiment in 2006, even then it retained its antecedent regimental name until those were dropped in 2013, though the foot regiments number is still retained. The Colours carried by the Duke of Wellington's Regiment, showing its Battle Honours remain the same. On 18 June 1853 the Adjutant General 'G Brown' sent the following communiqúe to the Regiment " Her Majesty has been Graciously pleased to command that the 33rd Regiment of Foot shall Henceforth, bear the name of 'The 33rd ( or The Duke of Wellington's) Regiment, which Honourable distinction shal be inscribed on the colours of the Regiment". The Regiment was presented with a new set of Colours bearing that inscription on 28 February 1854; and are now laid up in Halifax Minster. There was continuity of Battle Honours on those colours after 1881. There was not a new stand issued, as though a new regiment, with a new set starting for Honours awarded after that date. To therfore arbitrarily cut a regiments history in two would be a retrograde step and a fundamental change to the actual history of the regiment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.249.164 (talk) 21:14, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

 * I am not confused and nor have I missed the fact that the 33rd was renamed in 1853; so, with respect, it is you who are mistaken on both those points. My reason for supporting Xyl 54 is that what happened in 1881 was the amalgamation of two regiments (see for example) and not a continuation of one of them. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 23:00, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

 * An excellent reference which supports what I said. Quote " (By a wry turn of fate, in 1881 the 76th amalgamated with the 33rd Foot and acquired the title Duke of Wellington's, the 33rd having held that title since 1853.) " . The inference being that the 76th took on the title of the 33rd, becoming their 2nd Battalion. In addition the 76th Regiment's Colours were replaced with new ones, showing the title 'Duke of Wellington's' on 2 May 1887. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.249.244 (talk) 10:36, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

 * I agree that is helpful: where did it come from? By the way, while I accept that there was continuity of battle honours on the colours of the DWR after 1881, other new regiments formed by amalgamations e.g. the Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry also benefited from continuity of battle honours on their colours (see "DCLI colours: 1915 silk postcard" for example). So continuity of battle honours is not in itself a reason to treat the DWR differently from (say) the DCLI. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:42, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

 * Apologies. I now see you are also quoting from Corrigan. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 11:08, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Rugby league
I can't find any references for Brian Curry, Roy Sabine, or Jack Scroby having played rugby league Tests for Great Britain, or England, were they tourists? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 14:33, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Certainly not 'Tourists' they are all true blooded Yorkshiremen. All were National servicemen, when they played for the Dukes. There is a photo of Jack Scroby on the Dukes website page here:- The Dukes and Rugby - History of Rugby Within the Regiment and a reference to him talking about his Professional rugby career on this page:- 1st Battalion - National Service 1948 –1962 There is a photo of him from his days with Halifax and his player statistics on this website page:- Halifax RLFC website. Brian Curry played for Fartown and did score a try against Australia in 1963 whilst playing in a Fartown V Australia friendly. There is a downloadable pdf mentioning it on this website page:- Huddersfield Giants Supporters club. Roy Sabine was inducted into the Keighley RL Clubs Hall of Fame in 1999. There is a Keighley RL team photo from 1962 showing Roy Sabine on it on this website:- Halifax Courier website. However I don't think they played in internationals, other than for the Army Team. I have a contact who knew all of them so I will see what I can find out from him. Richard Harvey (talk) 15:49, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * This is the reply to my query, The person concerned is a former regimental officer who played for the Dukes after joining the regiment in 1959;- "The Rugby League players in 1959 when we played Ulster were Jack Scroby (Second/Back row), Army cap and a Rugby L International Halifax RL; Norman Field (Wing) Keighley and Bradford RL; and Derek Davies (Centre)  Bradford. On return from Ulster in 1960 in Brentwood & Colchester (& Kenya).  Arthur Keegan (Full back/centre)  Hull & RL International; Charlie Renilson (back row) Army, Halifax & RL International; Brian Curry (centre) Halifax & Army; Roy Sabine (centre) Keighley & Bradford. In Jan 1962 there was also Croft and Schofield in the side that beat the KOSB."  Richard Harvey (talk) 12:28, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the information, I'll try to incorporate it into the players articles. As a true blooded Yorkshiremen myself, no slight was intended by the term 'Tourist', as it refers to a player who has been selected to participate in an overseas tour, e.g. 1910 Great Britain Lions tour of Australia and New Zealand. Not all players selected to tour will necessarily participate in the Test matches, but may participate in matches against clubs, counties, and districts in the country being toured, etc. Would your contact be able to provide forenames for Croft and Schofield? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 15:42, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * They are Pte Paul Schofield and L/Cpl David Croft. A photo of them can be seen here:- 1962 Dukes team. You may recognise a couple of the other names shown there, as English and Scottish international players:- Mike Campbell-Lamerton, Charlie Renilson, Dennis Shuttleworth (later Brigadier Dennis Shuttleworth OBE). Some of them I knew from my time with the regiment. Something that may be of interest to you, is that Jack Scroby played for Bradford Northern when he was called up for his national service, with the Dukes. Whilst out on patrol, in Londonderry during 1958, he was intercepted by Trevor Foster, who at that time was a club official with Halifax RLFC and signed up for Halifax whilst sitting in a Landrover on the Craigavon Bridge. Richard Harvey (talk) 12:19, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

American War of Independence: Harlem Heights
This was a minor episode but if it's to be included it needs to be researched properly and re-written. A principal role in the engagement was played by two of Howe's light infantry battalions who are not even mentioned, while the 42nd Royal Highland regiment- are  mentioned here but as distinct from the Black Watch, which was simply the nickname- in that period- for the 42nd.

Might I suggest, however, that devoting space to describing in some detail a minor action in which the 33rd played no active role while passing over significant battles such as Brandywine Creek and Monmouth Courthouse, does not produce a balanced article.

The Harlem Heights/Fort Washington section could usefully be compressed to reflect the significance of the role played by the 33rd. JF42 (talk) 21:26, 22 February 2012 (UTC)  JF42 (talk) 13:27, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

 * The role of the 33rd in this battle remains unclear. The sentence describing British forces engaged overlooks the light infantry battalions which played a central role in the fighting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JF42 (talk • contribs) 22:44, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

 * Having researched this action more thoroughly for the Wiki article, it is clear that while the 33rd were part of the Reserve that was ordered up in support of the Light Infantry while they made their fighting withdrawal from Washington's lines, it appears only one battalion of the 42nd and the Hessian jagers actively engaged with the enemy during the 2 hr exchange of fire that constituted the main part of the action. Men of the 33rd Light company may have been involved as part of the 1st Light Infantry battalion but given the token involvement of the 33rd battalion companies, it really isn't clear why the action of Harlem Heights is included at all in this abreviated history of the regiment. JF42 (talk) 00:35, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

 * I have amended the article accordingly, with a much abbreviated reference to the action. JF42 (talk)

"The British forces prevailed in taking the objective. However, "
What purpose is served by two long paragraphs that appear to deal primarily with the Guards division at the battle of the Alma and which do not mention the 33rd at all? JF42 (talk) 08:31, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Good point I've trimmed the section down. Richard Harvey (talk) 10:26, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Warley
"The regiment returned to Warley in Yorkshire to rest, recruit and retrain."

You might want to check that location. Warley in Essex was the location of a large military encampment in the later C18th. The area of woods and heathland was used for manoeuvres and royal reviews. See the well-known paintings by P.J. de Loutherbourg from 1778. A number of regiments were sent to there to reform and recuperate after the return from the continent in spring 1795.Jf42x (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 06:59, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

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Numbering of battalions
The 1/4th, 1/5th, 1/6th and 1/7th battalions...
 * Does this mean 1st/4th etc? I don't see how the 1st battalion can be merged with more than one other battalion. Valetude (talk) 14:15, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * My understanding is that mergers were not involved. This was the first line of battalions: 1/1st, 1/2nd, 1/3rd, 1/4th etc. As the demand for more troops increased, a second line was raised: 2/1st, 2/2nd, 2/3rd etc. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 14:39, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

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Das Ich

Das Ich is a German dark wave/gothic-industrial band formed in 1989. The group, fronted by Stefan Ackermann and Bruno Kramm, were one of the prominent founders of and contributors to "Neue Deutsche Todeskunst" (New German Death Art) a musical movement in the early 1990s. The band is known for having a classically-inspired gothic-industrial style, for their on-stage theatrics, and their almost exclusive use of German-language lyrics. The German term Das Ich makes reference to the Freudian concept James Strachey translated as "ego" (lit. "The I").

History
Bruno Kramm and Stefan Ackermann met in Bayreuth, Germany in 1989 at a nightclub called the "Crazy Elephant". Bruno had already been involved in several band projects, and after some hours of socializing the two decided to begin a project together.

In 1989, the members of Das Ich founded the Danse Macabre record label which released their first EP, Satanische Verse, and their first album, Die Propheten. Die Propheten was released in Germany in 1991 and was reissued in the US in 1997, selling over 30,000 copies. Their second album, Staub, was released in 1994 and charted in Germany for 11 weeks. 1994 also saw the release of the Stigma EP which featured a more industrial-dance sound with remixes of the album track "Von der Armut." The band played many live shows in Europe but made its first US tour in June 1995 and a second, longer US tour of 13 shows, in 1997.

In 1998, the album Egodram, saw the group moving towards a more rhythmic, industrial dance-oriented sound, resulting in the club singles "Kindgott" and "Destillat". The album was followed by a tour in 1998 in the US and Mexico. Later in 1998, the band released their next album, Morgue, a concept album with lyrics based on the poems of expressionist writer Gottfried Benn.

In 1999, they released a remix album, Re-Laborat, that included Das Ich songs remixed by popular electro-industrial bands including And One, Funker Vogt, Wumpscut, and VNV Nation. The album ranked #31 on the German Alternative Chart's Top 50 Albums chart for 1999, while the U.S. re-issue peaked at #7 on the CMJ RPM Charts in 2001. Bruno Kramm released his solo spin-off Coeur in 2000.

In 2002, Das Ich released the album Antichrist, which is a critical reflection on world politics post-9-11. In 2003, the best-of album Relikt was released.

In 2004, they released the double album Lava, made of:

Lava:Glut: Disc with more instrumental than industrial tracks.

Lava:Asche: Disc with dance versions of songs from Lava:Glut.

Lava:Addendum: Bonus DVD packaged with some versions of the release.

In 2006, they released an additional dual album:

Cabaret: Disc with circus style songs, like the name implies, and more instrumental.

Varieté: Disc with versions of songs from Cabaret remixed by bands including Stillste Stund, Metallspürunde, FabrikC, etc. In the same year, they released a new DVD, Panopticum.

After 2010, the band underwent a short hiatus due to the health problems suffered by lead singer Stefan Ackermann, but the band had a revival with their performance at the Wave-Gotik-Treffen in 2013.

In 2017, the band remastered and re-released their first EP, Satanische Verse, as a limited-edition (500 copies) vinyl with additional tracks.

In 2018, an announcement about creating new album appeared on official website, originally scheduled for release in 2017 or 2018, that has yet to be released.

In March 2023 the band announced a South American tour — the seventh of their career — beginning in Sao Paulo, Brazil.

Band members

 * Stefan Ackermann – lead vocals
 * Bruno Kramm – keyboards, synthesizers, programming, backing vocals

Live band members

 * Stefan Siegl (Sissy) (2006)
 * Kain Gabriel Simon (2000–2006, 2016)
 * Daniel Galda (1994–1999)
 * Chad Blinman (1994–1996)
 * Jakob Lang (1998–1999)
 * Michael Schmid (1999–2000)
 * Ringo Müller (2006)
 * Damian "Plague" Hrunka (2000–present)
 * Martin Söffker - keyboards, backing vocals (2008–present)

In film
Music by Das Ich made up the soundtrack of the movie Das Ewige Licht ("The Eternal Light"), directed and produced by Hans Helmut Häßler. The soundtrack was released as Das innere Ich in 1996.

Studio albums

 * 1990: Satanische Verse ("Satanic Verses")
 * 1991: Die Propheten ("The Prophets") (re-released in 2009)
 * 1994: Staub ("Dust")
 * 1998: Egodram
 * 1998: Morgue
 * 2002: Anti'christ
 * 2004: LAVA:Glut ("LAVA:Ember")
 * 2006: Cabaret (limited box set issued featuring remix album Varieté and DVD Panopticum)

Extended plays

 * 2008: Kannibale

Remix albums

 * 2000: Re-Laborat
 * 2004: LAVA:Asche (remixes of Lava:Glut; "LAVA:Ash")

Singles

 * 1994: "Stigma"
 * 1998: "Kindgott" ("Child God")
 * 1998: "Destillat"

Soundtracks

 * 1996: Das innere Ich ("The Inner Self")

Compilations

 * 1999: Re-Kapitulation (compilation, US only)
 * 2003: Relikt (compilation; "Relic")
 * 2007: Alter Ego (best-of compilation)
 * 2007: Addendum (compilation of remixes, rare tracks and alternate versions)

Live albums

 * 1995: Feuer ("Fire")

Video

 * 2002: Momentum (VCD/DVD)

Side projects

 * 1995: Die Liebe (feat. Atrocity, LP; "The Love")
 * 2000: Coeur (CD) (solo project released as "Kramm")

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Isaac Asimov book series bibliography

This is a bibliography of books by Isaac Asimov organized by series chronologically and by series timeline (i.e. prequels first).

See also Isaac Asimov bibliography (chronological), Isaac Asimov bibliography (alphabetical), and Isaac Asimov short stories bibliography.

Robot series
Also see Robot series List of books for short stories about robots by Asimov.

The Robot novels
 * The Positronic Man (1993), a novel based on Asimov's short story "The Bicentennial Man", co-written by Robert Silverberg
 * The Caves of Steel (1954)
 * The Naked Sun (1957)
 * The Robots of Dawn (1983)
 * Robots and Empire (1985)

The Caliban trilogy (Not written by Asimov but in the same series)
 * Isaac Asimov's Caliban (1993) by Roger MacBride Allen
 * Isaac Asimov's Inferno (1994) by Roger MacBride Allen
 * Isaac Asimov's Utopia (1996) by Roger MacBride Allen

Galactic Empire series

 * The Stars, Like Dust (1951)
 * The Currents of Space (1952)
 * Pebble in the Sky (1950), his first novel
 * "Blind Alley" (1945), short story reprinted in The Early Asimov

Foundation series
Also see Foundation series List of books for short stories also in the Foundation universe by Asimov.

 * Prequels
 * 1) Prelude to Foundation (1988)
 * 2) Forward the Foundation (1991)

 * Foundation Trilogy
 * 1) Foundation (1951)
 * 2) Foundation and Empire (1952)
 * 3) Second Foundation (1953)

 * Sequels
 * 1) Foundation's Edge (1982)
 * 2) Foundation and Earth (1986)

The Second Foundation Trilogy (not written by Asimov)

 * 1) Foundation's Fear (1997) by Gregory Benford
 * 2) Foundation and Chaos (1998) by Greg Bear
 * 3) Foundation's Triumph (1999) by David Brin

Lucky Starr series (using pseudonym Paul French)

 * 1) David Starr, Space Ranger (1952)
 * 2) Lucky Starr and the Pirates of the Asteroids (1954)
 * 3) Lucky Starr and the Oceans of Venus (1954)
 * 4) Lucky Starr and the Big Sun of Mercury (1956)
 * 5) Lucky Starr and the Moons of Jupiter (1957)
 * 6) Lucky Starr and the Rings of Saturn (1958)

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Creel (basket)

A creel is a wicker basket usually used for carrying fish or blocks of peat. It is also the fish trap used to catch lobsters and other crustaceans.

In modern times, the term has come to encompass various types of wicker baskets used by anglers or commercial fishermen to hold fish or other prey. The word is also associated with agriculture and some domestic baskets.

In the North Sea herring industry of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, the creel was a basket used to measure the volume of a catch. The standard measures were creel, which were made in officially approved volumes of one half and one quarter cran (another unit for measuring fresh herring).

An angler's creel is designed to function as an evaporative cooler when lined with moss and dipped into the creek to keep the catch chilled. Caught fish are inserted through a slot in the top, held in place by a small leather strap.

Creels are also the high sides added to a towed trailer, making it more suitable for carrying loose materials such as turf.

Etymology
According to the first edition of the Oxford English Dictionary and the Dictionary of the Older Scottish Tongue, the origin of the word is uncertain. However, the Middle English Dictionary asserts that it derives from Old French "grëil, gräil, grëille, gräille a grill (from L[atin] cratīcula)".

Creels in Scotland
The word creel is also used in Scotland to refer to a device used to catch lobsters and other crustaceans. Made of woven netting (similar to that used in traditional fishing net) over a frame of plastic tubing and a slatted wooden base, this type of creel is analogous in function to a lobster pot. Several creels put out on one line can be referred to as a "leader".

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Talk:Tylenol (brand)

side effects
How is it even possible to produce an article on any drug without mention of possible side effects? Weatherlawyer (talk) 04:01, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * this article is not about a drug. it is about a brand.  The drug is discussed at paracetamol. Jytdog (talk) 04:32, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Paracetamol
Are there any Tylenol-branded drugs not containing paracetamol? --Djadjko (talk) 01:22, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Would require an indepth search. Not that I am aware. And can find no evidence of it.  Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 06:44, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Consistency of non-brand name
It seems that if Tylenol is being referred to as "an American brand of drugs," we should be using acetaminophen as that's what the drug is called in the United States. A secondary "also-known-as" reference to paracetamol remains appropriate.

You wouldn't say "De Havilland was a British maker of airplanes (called aeroplanes in Britain)." You would use the local name/spelling for the subject of the article.

MOS:STRONGNAT

If there's some exception being made that I'm not aware of, the reference in the introduction needs to be changed as well. Washiwiki (talk) 05:11, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

 * I concur. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 05:38, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * "American" was unsourced. It is sold in about ten countries Jytdog (talk) 05:56, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * A that shows Tylenol is an American company brand has been added as a reference. —  Godsy (TALK CONT ) 06:42, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * First, Tylenol is not a company. I assume that was a Typo.  Where does it say that Tylenol is used only in the US, or even that it is an "American brand"?   I am not even sure what you mean by "American brand"....  Jytdog (talk) 17:15, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * An American brand. Category:American brands exists. For example: Toyota is a Japanese brand. It is also sold in many countries. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 01:06, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah I know that "American" means pertaining to America. going by the basic definitions it is also a Chinese brand, a Brazilian brand, a Canadian brand, etc.   Please answer directly. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 01:27, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * We can solve this simply by saying something like "that originated in America".  How is that? Jytdog (talk) 03:02, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I disagree, but I have removed "American brand" per my edit summary as I personally don't find it worth debating. No, the source provided did not explicitly "say that Tylenol ... is an "American brand" (it arguably demonstrated it), but we don't need to cite that the sky is blue. I never stated that "Tylenol is used only in the US". The Johnson & Johnson article states that it is an "American multinational"; The Toyota article states that it is a "multinational corporation" as well (going back to my example from earlier). Country brand is generally used to refer to the country of origin of the company that makes a brand or where it is headquartered, not in the manner of your examples. The common name for N-acetyl-p-amino-phenol in the United States is acetaminophen due at least in part to FDA regulation. Tylenol has strong national ties to the United States. I think the article should use acetaminophen in the first position, but again, I don't think it's so egregious the other way as to be worth walls of text on the matter. Best Regards, — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 03:49, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

ok. thanks for working this through Jytdog (talk) 03:55, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * This is absolutely ridiculous. Not only is Tylenol the brand name of an American company (McNeil Laboratories), it's not even available as Tylenol in any. single. English-speaking country that calls it paracetamol. If it was available in any Commonwealth countries that do—say, Great Britain, Ireland, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand—then maybe, maybe you'd have an argument for referring to it first as such. But there is simply zero link to any anglophone country that does. Per MOS:STRONGNAT, I'm changing the intro to first refer to it by the American genericised name, then the Commonwealth alternative.2601:240:CC08:7780:F9ED:ADF5:9428:CA3F (talk) 07:02, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

1955 or 1953?
From this page: "that year [1955] one of them learned about paracetamol, which was not on the US market at that time". From McNeil Consumer Healthcare page: "In 1953 McNeil Laboratories introduced Algoson, a preparation containing acetaminophen together with sodium butabarbital, a sedative." Which year is right? 80.234.189.32 (talk) 22:18, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Taking —PM followed byl daytime.
Can I take Tylenol after —PM followed byl daytime. It says only 2 rqccgggvbjjjjjb 2601:1C0:5901:2470:F0B5:1968:C2E9:9B19 (talk) 10:44, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

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Newton's cradle

Newton's cradle is a device, usually made of metal, that demonstrates the principles of conservation of momentum and conservation of energy in physics with swinging spheres. When one sphere at the end is lifted and released, it strikes the stationary spheres, compressing them and thereby transmitting a pressure wave through the stationary spheres, which creates a force that pushes the last sphere upward. The last sphere swings back and strikes the stationary spheres, repeating the effect in the opposite direction. The device is named after 17th-century English scientist Sir Isaac Newton and was designed by French scientist Edme Mariotte. It is also known as Newton's pendulum, Newton's balls, Newton's rocker or executive ball clicker (since the device makes a click each time the balls collide, which they do repeatedly in a steady rhythm).

Operation
When one of the end balls ("the first") is pulled sideways, the attached string makes it follow an upward arc. When the ball is let go, it strikes the second ball and comes to nearly a dead stop. The ball on the opposite side acquires most of the velocity of the first ball and swings in an arc almost as high as the release height of the first ball. This shows that the last ball receives most of the energy and momentum of the first ball. The impact produces a sonic wave that propagates through the intermediate balls. Any efficiently elastic material such as steel does this, as long as the kinetic energy is temporarily stored as potential energy in the compression of the material rather than being lost as heat. This is similar to bouncing one coin of a line of touching coins by striking it with another coin, and which happens even if the first struck coin is constrained by pressing on its center such that it cannot move.

There are slight movements in all the balls after the initial strike, but the last ball receives most of the initial energy from the impact of the first ball. When two (or three) balls are dropped, the two (or three) balls on the opposite side swing out. Some say that this behavior demonstrates the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy in elastic collisions. However, if the colliding balls behave as described above with the same mass possessing the same velocity before and after the collisions, then any function of mass and velocity is conserved in such an event. Thus, this first-level explanation is a true, but not a complete description of the motion.

Physics explanation
Newton's cradle can be modeled fairly accurately with simple mathematical equations with the assumption that the balls always collide in pairs. If one ball strikes four stationary balls that are already touching, these simple equations can not explain the resulting movements in all five balls, which are not due to friction losses. For example, in a real Newton's cradle the fourth has some movement and the first ball has a slight reverse movement. All the animations in this article show idealized action (simple solution) that only occurs if the balls are not touching initially and only collide in pairs.

Simple solution
The conservation of momentum (mass × velocity) and kinetic energy (1/2 × mass × velocity2) can be used to find the resulting velocities for two colliding perfectly elastic objects. These two equations are used to determine the resulting velocities of the two objects. For the case of two balls constrained to a straight path by the strings in the cradle, the velocities are a single number instead of a 3D vector for 3D space, so the math requires only two equations to solve for two unknowns. When the two objects have the same mass, the solution is simple: the moving object stops relative to the stationary one and the stationary one picks up all the other's initial velocity. This assumes perfectly elastic objects, so there is no need to account for heat and sound energy losses.

Steel does not compress much, but its elasticity is very efficient, so it does not cause much waste heat. The simple effect from two same-mass efficiently elastic colliding objects constrained to a straight path is the basis of the effect seen in the cradle and gives an approximate solution to all its activities.

For a sequence of same-mass elastic objects constrained to a straight path, the effect continues to each successive object. For example, when two balls are dropped to strike three stationary balls in a cradle, there is an unnoticed but crucial small distance between the two dropped balls, and the action is as follows: the first moving ball that strikes the first stationary ball (the second ball striking the third ball) transfers all of its momentum to the third ball and stops. The third ball then transfers the momentum to the fourth ball and stops, and then the fourth to the fifth ball.

Right behind this sequence, the second moving ball is transferring its momentum to the first moving ball that just stopped, and the sequence repeats immediately and imperceptibly behind the first sequence, ejecting the fourth ball right behind the fifth ball with the same small separation that was between the two initial striking balls. If they are simply touching when they strike the third ball, precision requires the more complete solution below.

Other examples of this effect
The effect of the last ball ejecting with a velocity nearly equal to the first ball can be seen in sliding a coin on a table into a line of identical coins, as long as the striking coin and its twin targets are in a straight line. The effect can similarly be seen in billiard balls. The effect can also be seen when a sharp and strong pressure wave strikes a dense homogeneous material immersed in a less-dense medium. If the identical atoms, molecules, or larger-scale sub-volumes of the dense homogeneous material are at least partially elastically connected to each other by electrostatic forces, they can act as a sequence of colliding identical elastic balls.

The surrounding atoms, molecules, or sub-volumes experiencing the pressure wave act to constrain each other similarly to how the string constrains the cradle's balls to a straight line. As a medical example, lithotripsy shock waves can be sent through the skin and tissue without harm to burst kidney stones. The side of the stones opposite to the incoming pressure wave bursts, not the side receiving the initial strike. In the Indian game carrom, a striker stops after hitting a stationery playing piece, transferring all of its momentum into the piece that was hit.

When the simple solution applies
For the simple solution to precisely predict the action, no pair in the midst of colliding may touch the third ball, because the presence of the third ball effectively makes the struck ball appear more massive. Applying the two conservation equations to solve the final velocities of three or more balls in a single collision results in many possible solutions, so these two principles are not enough to determine resulting action.

Even when there is a small initial separation, a third ball may become involved in the collision if the initial separation is not large enough. When this occurs, the complete solution method described below must be used.

Small steel balls work well because they remain efficiently elastic with little heat loss under strong strikes and do not compress much (up to about 30 μm in a small Newton's cradle). The small, stiff compressions mean they occur rapidly, less than 200 microseconds, so steel balls are more likely to complete a collision before touching a nearby third ball. Softer elastic balls require a larger separation to maximize the effect from pair-wise collisions.

More complete solution
A cradle that best follows the simple solution needs to have an initial separation between the balls that measures at least twice the amount that any one ball compresses, but most do not. This section describes the action when the initial separation is not enough and in subsequent collisions that involve more than two balls even when there is an initial separation. This solution simplifies to the simple solution when only two balls touch during a collision. It applies to all perfectly elastic identical balls that have no energy losses due to friction and can be approximated by materials such as steel, glass, plastic, and rubber.

For two balls colliding, only the two equations for conservation of momentum and energy are needed to solve the two unknown resulting velocities. For three or more simultaneously colliding elastic balls, the relative compressibilities of the colliding surfaces are the additional variables that determine the outcome. For example, five balls have four colliding points and scaling (dividing) three of them by the fourth gives the three extra variables needed to solve for all five post-collision velocities.

Newtonian, Lagrangian, Hamiltonian, and stationary action are the different ways of mathematically expressing classical mechanics. They describe the same physics but must be solved by different methods. All enforce the conservation of energy and momentum. Newton's law has been used in research papers. It is applied to each ball and the sum of forces is made equal to zero. So there are five equations, one for each ball—and five unknowns, one for each velocity. If the balls are identical, the absolute compressibility of the surfaces becomes irrelevant, because it can be divided out of both sides of all five equations, producing zero.

Determining the velocities  for the case of one ball striking four initially touching balls is found by modeling the balls as weights with non-traditional springs on their colliding surfaces. Most materials, like steel, that are efficiently elastic approximately follow Hooke's force law for springs, $$F = k \cdot x$$, but because the area of contact for a sphere increases as the force increases, colliding elastic balls follow Hertz's adjustment to Hooke's law, $$F = k \cdot x^{1.5}$$. This and Newton's law for motion ($$F = m \cdot a$$) are applied to each ball, giving five simple but interdependent differential equations that can be solved numerically.

When the fifth ball begins accelerating, it is receiving momentum and energy from the third and fourth balls through the spring action of their compressed surfaces. For identical elastic balls of any type with initially touching balls, the action is the same for the first strike, except the time to complete a collision increases in softer materials. Forty to fifty percent of the kinetic energy of the initial ball from a single-ball strike is stored in the ball surfaces as potential energy for most of the collision process. Of the initial velocity, 13% is imparted to the fourth ball (which can be seen as a 3.3-degree movement if the fifth ball moves out 25 degrees) and there is a slight reverse velocity in the first three balls, the first ball having the largest at −7% of the initial velocity. This separates the balls, but they come back together just before as the fifth ball returns. This is due to the pendulum phenomenon of different small angle disturbances having approximately the same time to return to the center.

The Hertzian differential equations predict that if two balls strike three, the fifth and fourth balls will leave with velocities of 1.14 and 0.80 times the initial velocity. This is 2.03 times more kinetic energy in the fifth ball than the fourth ball, which means the fifth ball would swing twice as high in the vertical direction as the fourth ball. But in a real Newton's cradle, the fourth ball swings out as far as the fifth ball. To explain the difference between theory and experiment, the two striking balls must have at least ≈ 10 μm separation (given steel, 100 g, and 1 m/s). This shows that in the common case of steel balls, unnoticed separations can be important and must be included in the Hertzian differential equations, or the simple solution gives a more accurate result.

Effect of pressure waves
The forces in the Hertzian solution above were assumed to propagate in the balls immediately, which is not the case. Sudden changes in the force between the atoms of material build up to form a pressure wave. Pressure waves (sound) in steel travel about 5 cm in 10 microseconds, which is about 10 times faster than the time between the first ball striking and the last ball being ejected. The pressure waves reflect back and forth through all five balls about ten times, although dispersing to less of a wavefront with more reflections. This is fast enough for the Hertzian solution to not require a substantial modification to adjust for the delay in force propagation through the balls. In less-rigid but still very elastic balls such as rubber, the propagation speed is slower, but the duration of collisions is longer, so the Hertzian solution still applies. The error introduced by the limited speed of the force propagation biases the Hertzian solution towards the simple solution because the collisions are not affected as much by the inertia of the balls that are further away.

Identically shaped balls help the pressure waves converge on the contact point of the last ball: at the initial strike point one pressure wave goes forward to the other balls while another goes backward to reflect off the opposite side of the first ball, and then it follows the first wave, being exactly one ball's diameter behind. The two waves meet up at the last contact point because the first wave reflects off the opposite side of the last ball and it meets up at the last contact point with the second wave. Then they reverberate back and forth like this about 10 times until the first ball stops connecting with the second ball. Then the reverberations reflect off the contact point between the second and third balls, but still converge at the last contact point, until the last ball is ejected—but it is less of a wavefront with each reflection.

Effect of different types of balls
Using different types of material does not change the action as long as the material is efficiently elastic. The size of the spheres does not change the results unless the increased weight exceeds the elastic limit of the material. If the solid balls are too large, energy is being lost as heat, because the elastic limit increases with the radius raised to the power 1.5, but the energy which had to be absorbed and released increases as the cube of the radius. Making the contact surfaces flatter can overcome this to an extent by distributing the compression to a larger amount of material but it can introduce an alignment problem. Steel is better than most materials because it allows the simple solution to apply more often in collisions after the first strike, its elastic range for storing energy remains good despite the higher energy caused by its weight, and the higher weight decreases the effect of air resistance.

Uses
The most common application is that of a desktop executive toy. Another use is as an educational physics demonstration, as an example of conservation of momentum and conservation of energy.

History
The principle demonstrated by the device, the law of impacts between bodies, was first demonstrated by the French physicist Abbé Mariotte in the 17th century. His work on the topic was first presented to the French Academy of Sciences in 1671; it was published in 1673 as Traité de la percussion ou choc des corps ("Treatise on percussion or shock of bodies").

Newton acknowledged Mariotte's work, along with Wren, Wallis and Huygens as the pioneers of experiments on the collisions of pendulum balls, in his Principia.

Christiaan Huygens used pendulums to study collisions. His work, De Motu Corporum ex Percussione (On the Motion of Bodies by Collision) published posthumously in 1703, contains a version of Newton's first law and discusses the collision of suspended bodies including two bodies of equal mass with the motion of the moving body being transferred to the one at rest.

There is much confusion over the origins of the modern Newton's cradle. Marius J. Morin has been credited as being the first to name and make this popular executive toy. However, in early 1967, an English actor, Simon Prebble, coined the name "Newton's cradle" (now used generically) for the wooden version manufactured by his company, Scientific Demonstrations Ltd. After some initial resistance from retailers, they were first sold by Harrods of London, thus creating the start of an enduring market for executive toys. Later a very successful chrome design for the Carnaby Street store Gear was created by the sculptor and future film director Richard Loncraine.

The largest cradle device in the world was designed by MythBusters and consisted of five one-ton concrete and steel rebar-filled buoys suspended from a steel truss. The buoys also had a steel plate inserted in between their two-halves to act as a "contact point" for transferring the energy; this cradle device did not function well because concrete is not elastic so most of the energy was lost to a heat buildup in the concrete. A smaller-scale version constructed by them consists of five 6 in chrome steel ball bearings, each weighing 33 lb, and is nearly as efficient as a desktop model.

The cradle device with the largest-diameter collision balls on public display was visible for more than a year in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, at the retail store American Science and Surplus (see photo). Each ball was an inflatable exercise ball 26 in in diameter (encased in steel rings), and was supported from the ceiling using extremely strong magnets. It was dismantled in early August 2010 due to maintenance concerns.

In popular culture
Newton's cradle appears in some films, often as a trope on the desk of a lead villain such as Paul Newman's role in The Hudsucker Proxy, Magneto in X-Men, and the Kryptonians in Superman II. It was used to represent the unyielding position of the NFL towards head injuries in Concussion. It has also been used as a relaxing diversion on the desk of lead intelligent/anxious/sensitive characters such as Henry Winkler's role in Night Shift, Dustin Hoffman's role in Straw Dogs, and Gwyneth Paltrow's role in Iron Man 2. It was featured more prominently as a series of clay pots in Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, and as a row of 1968 Eero Aarnio bubble chairs with scantily clad women in them in Gamer. In Storks, Hunter, the CEO of Cornerstore, has one not with balls, but with little birds. Newton's Cradle is an item in Nintendo's Animal Crossing where it is referred to as "executive toy". In 2017, an episode of the Omnibus podcast, featuring Jeopardy! champion Ken Jennings and musician John Roderick, focused on the history of Newton's Cradle. Newton's cradle is also featured on the desk of Deputy White House Communications Director Sam Seaborn in The West Wing. In the Futurama episode "The Day the Earth Stood Stupid", professor Hubert Farnsworth is shown with his head in a Newton's cradle and saying he's a genius as Philip J. Fry walks by.

Progressive rock band Dream Theater uses the cradle as imagery in album art of their 2005 release Octavarium. Rock band Jefferson Airplane used the cradle on the 1968 album Crown of Creation as a rhythm device to create polyrhythms on an instrumental track.

Literature

 * B. Brogliato: Nonsmooth Mechanics. Models, Dynamics and Control, Springer, 2nd Edition, 1999.
 * B. Brogliato: Nonsmooth Mechanics. Models, Dynamics and Control, Springer, 2nd Edition, 1999.

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Burkina Faso national football team

The Burkina Faso national football team (Burkina Faso jamana ka tolatantɔn) represents Burkina Faso in men's international football and is controlled by the Burkinabé Football Federation. They were known as the Upper Volta national football team until 1984, when Upper Volta became Burkina Faso. They finished fourth in the 1998 Africa Cup of Nations, when they hosted the tournament. Their best ever finish in the tournament was the 2013 edition, reaching the final.

History
Their first international match was played on April 13, 1960, in the Jeux de la Communauté in Madagascar and ended with a 5–4 victory against Gabon.

Africa Cup of Nations
The country made their first appearance in the Africa Cup of Nations in 1978, but it was not until 1996 that they returned to the biennial tournament. They subsequently qualified for five consecutive tournaments between 1996 and 2004, reaching the semi-finals under coach Philippe Troussier when the tournament was held on home soil in 1998.

Burkina Faso played in Group B of the 2010 Africa Cup of Nations alongside Ghana and Ivory Coast in a three-team group due to Togo's withdrawal. Although they drew their first match against Ivory Coast and needed just a draw against Ghana to progress, the Burkinabe lost 1–0 and failed to qualify for the knock-out stage of the tournament. Burkina Faso took part in the 2012 Africa Cup of Nations, losing all three of their matches and subsequently firing coach Paulo Duarte. Belgian coach Paul Put was announced as new coach in March 2012. Burkina Faso finished first of their group, but lost to Nigeria in the final of the 2013 Africa Cup of Nations.

The team would earn third place at the 2017 Africa Cup of Nations.

World Cup qualifying
Burkina Faso first entered the World Cup in the 1978 qualifying tournament, beating Mauritania in the preliminary round before losing 1–3 against Ivory Coast. They next entered World Cup qualifying in 1990, losing in the first round to Libya 2–3. Burkina Faso withdrew from the 1994 competition but returned in 1998, beating Mauritania again to make it to the final qualifying group stage, however they failed to obtain a single point, finishing bottom of their group. They beat Ethiopia in 2002 to again make it to the qualifying group stage, but did not advance, only winning one game against Malawi.

The team had a strong showing in the 2014 World Cup qualification campaign, reaching the final round of qualifying where it faced Algeria. It won 3–2 in Ouagadougou, but lost 1–0 in Blida. Despite the 3-3 aggregate, Burkina Faso narrowly missed out on the 2014 World Cup due to the away goals rule.

Nickname
The team is nicknamed Les Etalons, which means "The Stallions". It is in reference to the legendary horse of Princess Yennenga. Supporters of the team at times include a percussion band, which often mimics the sounds of galloping horses at matches.

Results and fixtures
The following is a list of match results in the last 12 months, as well as any future matches that have been scheduled.

Coaching history

 * Otto Pfister (1976–1978)
 * Heinz-Peter Überjahn (1988–1990)
 * 🇧🇫 Idrissa Traoré (1992–1996)
 * 🇧🇫 Calixte Zagre (1996)
 * 🇧🇬 Ivan Vutov (1996–1997)
 * 🇬🇭 Malik Jabir (1997)
 * 🇫🇷 Philippe Troussier (1997–1998)
 * 🇫🇷 Didier Notheaux (1998–1999)
 * 🇧🇪 René Taelman (2000)
 * 🇧🇫 Sidiki Diarra (2000–2001)
 * 🇦🇷 Oscar Fulloné (2001–2002)
 * 🇧🇫 Jacques Yaméogo & 🇧🇫 Pihouri Weboanga (2002)
 * 🇧🇫 Jean-Paul Rabier (2002–2004)
 * Ivica Todorov (2004–2005)
 * 🇫🇷 Bernard Simondi (2005–2006)
 * 🇧🇫 Idrissa Traoré (2006–2007)
 * 🇫🇷 Didier Notheaux & 🇧🇫 Sidiki Diarra (2007)
 * Paulo Jorge Rebelo Duarte (2008–2012)
 * 🇧🇪 Paul Put (2012–2015)
 * 🇩🇪 Gernot Rohr (2015)
 * Paulo Duarte (2015–2019)
 * 🇧🇫 Kamou Malo (2019–2022)
 * 🇫🇷 Hubert Velud (2022–2024)
 * 🇧🇫 Brama Traoré (2024–present)

Current squad
The following players were called up for the 2026 FIFA World Cup qualification matches against Egypt and Sierra Leone on 6 and 10 June 2024.

Caps and goals correct as of 6 June 2024 after the match against Egypt.

Recent call-ups
The following players have been called up for Burkina Faso in the last 12 months.

 * Notes
 * WD = Player withdrew from the squad due to non-injury issue.
 * INJ = Player withdrew from the squad due to an injury.
 * PRE = Preliminary squad.
 * RET = Player has retired from international football.
 * SUS = Suspended from the national team.

Records

 * Players in bold are still active with Burkina Faso.

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Island House, Hong Kong

Island House is a historical building located on Island House Lane, Yuen Chau Tsai, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

History
Built in 1906, Island House served as the residence for the first British Police Magistrate appointed in 1898.

It was also the official residence of the North District Officer and the residences of District Commissioners for the New Territories. Island House had been resided in by a total of 15 District Commissioners since 1949. The last resident of the Island House was Sir David Akers-Jones, who became the Chief Secretary of Hong Kong in 1985.

Since then, the house has become the Island House Conservation Studies Centre after it was passed to the custodianship of WWF HK. To increase public understanding and participation in biodiversity monitoring WWF Hong Kong have been increasingly getting involved in Citizen Science, incorporating iNaturalist and the City Nature Challenge activities into their sites across Hong Kong including Island House.

Conservation
Island House is one of the declared monuments of Hong Kong since 1983.

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