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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shrii Shrii Anandamurti

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was - merge

Shrii Shrii Anandamurti

 * -- also consider PROUT for deletion

This is the same man as Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar. "P.R. Sarkar" wins the googlefight, so it would seem best to use his secular name for the article title. Also, there are some POV issues, especially in the Shrii Shrii Anandamurti article. Once all of the NPOV and un-notable stuff is trimmed out, I think PROUT would fit well into the same article, and so the seperate article could be deleted. -- WOT 01:58, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar. This is an alias. Needs some serious NPOVification too.   — Gwalla | Talk 03:31, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge adn redirect seems more appropriate. Rossami 04:00, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment, Shrii Shrii is a title, IIRC. Which makes the article title incorrect anyways.  -Vina 03:12, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect. The spiritual name issue goes back to hindu/yoga tradition, where it is considered that when one renouces his private life and property and takes initiation into spiritual tradition, one enters in new sphere of life and one is considered having new personality. Thus the naming system. These articles can be merged. For instance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramahansa_Yogananda can be used as an example. Regarding PROUT article - it should not be deleted. Prout is a complete socio-economical theory such as capitalism, socialism or communism. There are very few complete socio-economic theories in excistance. The article is in need of fundamental re-wrote and expansion.--Arjuna 11:21, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: On PROUT -- whether or not it is complete, is it notable outside the sphere of Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar?  Further, the five "core principles" listed in the article don't suggest completeness.  To "maximize utility" would be the goal of most economic systems, and the implementation is simply "to vary"?  -- WOT 14:56, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Merge/Redirect. Clean up too. --Improv 16:43, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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Garfield Peak

Garfield Peak may refer to:

 * Garfield Peak (Colorado)
 * Garfield Peak (Oregon)
 * Garfield Peak (Wyoming)

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Quasar (Wendell Vaughn)

Quasar (Wendell Elvis Vaughn) is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. He is one of Marvel's cosmic heroes, a character whose adventures frequently take him into outer space or other dimensions. However, Quasar deviates from the archetype of the noble, dauntless alien set by such Silver Age cosmic heroes as the Silver Surfer, Adam Warlock and Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell) in that he is an everyman. He starred in an eponymous monthly ongoing series written by Mark Gruenwald that ran for sixty issues beginning in 1989 and has served as a member of The Avengers.

Publication history
The character first appeared as Marvel Boy in Captain America #217 (Jan. 1978). He continued to make guest appearances in Captain America, The Incredible Hulk, Marvel Two-in-One, and The Avengers. He was revamped as Quasar by Mark Gruenwald, and first appeared under this new name in The Incredible Hulk vol. 2 #234 (April 1979).

Quasar received an eponymous series in October 1989, written by Mark Gruenwald and illustrated by Paul Ryan and Danny Bulanadi. The title crossed over with Infinity Gauntlet, Operation: Galactic Storm, and The Infinity War.

Later, the New Universe's Star Brand was introduced into the Marvel Universe. Its presence precipitated into the "Starblast" storyline, which was intended to stir up interest in Quasar's solo series or a prospective cosmic team series starring Quasar, but it failed to do so. Quasar was cancelled at issue #60.

He would appear sporadically over the next several years. The character appeared in the 1996 Star Masters miniseries (as well as Cosmic Powers Unlimited & Silver Surfer vol 3 #123) as part of a team of cosmic heroes with the Silver Surfer and Beta Ray Bill. He also appeared in the Avengers: Infinity miniseries, Maximum Security (2000), and Fantastic Four #521-524 (2006).

Quasar appeared and died in the four-issue mini-series Annihilation: Nova (June-Sept. 2006). He appeared as a spirit in Annihilation: Conquest: Quasar #1-4 (Sept.-Dec. 2007), by writer Christos Gage and penciller Mike Lilly. An astral form of Quasar had a recurring role in Nova vol 4 beginning with issue #17, as the writers Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning (known collectively as DnA) thought he was too useful a character to stay dead:

"the writers felt Vaughn's unique powers, never say die attitude, and everyman perspective made him too good of a character to stay dead. 'His return was always on the cards because of his power set,' DnA told CBR News. 'We were just waiting for the best opportunity to fit it in as an organic part of the story. The Secret Invasion tie-in, and the return of Project Pegasus in particular, gave us that opportunity."

The character regained a physical form in the Realm of Kings one-shot (2009) and played a role in The Thanos Imperative (2010). Quasar assumed the leadership role of the titular team in Annihilators #1-4 (2011) and Annihilators: Earthfall (2011).

Origin and early career
Wendell Vaughn was born in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. He graduated from S.H.I.E.L.D. Academy. Although considered highly capable by his superiors, they nonetheless deem him unfit for field work, sensing that Vaughn lacked the necessary "killer instinct"—the will to win at all costs.

His first assignment is security detail for a research facility where a team of scientists were performing experiments on the Quantum Bands taken from the deceased Crusader. A test pilot selected to wear the bands proves spectacularly successful at wielding them, but he perishes when the energy output reaches a critical mass beyond his control. Vaughn dons the bands when the criminal scientists A.I.M. launch a full-scale assault on the facility. Using the bands' power to generate solid energy constructs, he repulses the attack. When the energy buildup begins to overwhelm him, he decides to simply relax and "go with the flow". To his surprise, the buildup abruptly dissipates. Vaughn realizes the key to wielding the bands is a flexible will, rather than an indomitable, uncompromising one. Ultimately, his lack of a killer instinct makes him a more suitable wielder of the bands.

Wendell Vaughn becomes a superhero, using the codename Marvel Boy in his first appearance alongside S.H.I.E.L.D.'s superhuman Super-Agents. He later becomes Marvel Man, and finally settles on Quasar.

Alongside Captain America, the Falcon, and Hulk, he battles Moonstone and the Corporation. Later, as security chief of Project: Pegasus, he battles the original Deathlok, Nuklo, the Grapplers, and the Nth Man when they attack the facility. Quasar later journeys with the Thing into an alternate reality. His mind is temporarily taken over by the Serpent Crown.

Protector of the Universe
Quasar journeys to Uranus, where the original Marvel Boy had received the bands. The bands' true nature and origins are revealed to him by the cosmic entity called Eon. Eon explains the bands were intended to be worn by his agent, the Protector of the Universe (previously the late Captain Mar-Vell). Quasar is offered the role and accepts. As a result, his mind is opened to the true extent of the bands' power, including how to use the bands to teleport via a dimension called the Quantum Zone. He also battles Deathurge. After returning to Earth, he resumes his role as a superhero and assists the Avengers in battle against Super-Nova. He is inducted into the Avengers shortly after.

Quasar meets Uatu the Watcher. He encounters the Stranger, and solves the Watcher's "Oblivion Plague".

After a falling-out with both his estranged father and Eon, he quits his role as Protector of the Universe. During this time Maelstrom, the "Cosmic Assassin", kills both Quasar and Eon. However, Quasar is recreated in an energy form by the cosmic being Infinity and battles Maelstrom and Oblivion. Quasar saves the universe from collapse. Maelstrom is destroyed by the Quantum-bands and Quasar resurrects himself. Quasar fights Thanos at Eon's funeral. Eon is reincarnated in the form of its newborn offspring Epoch.

When a stargate being used by the Shi'ar during the Kree-Shi'ar War threatens to destroy Earth's sun, Quasar is able to undo the damage with the help of Binary.

During the 1992 storyline "Infinity War", Quasar travels to the Dimension of Manifestations to gather intelligence. With the aid of the Contemplator, he discovers the cosmic being Eternity in a catatonic state. He leaves the dimension to join with his fellow superheroes. Quasar attempts to use the near-omnipotent Ultimate Nullifier against the god-like villain Magus, but Magus uses the Infinity Gauntlet to turn the weapon against Quasar, wiping him from existence.

He is briefly replaced by a supervillain who claims his Quantum Bands for himself but Quasar is able to resurrect himself through means of the Star Brand, which he had acquired during a trip to the New Universe prior to the Infinity War. He saves the Living Tribunal from power-hungry Deviant Ereshkigal and stops Skeletron and The Black Fleet from acquiring the Star Brand for themselves. When the Presence threatens to kill his loved ones, Quasar fakes his death and leaves Earth.

Avengers Deep-Space/Annihilation
Quasar helps defend the universe from aliens called Infinites. When Earth is threatened by Ego the Living Planet, Quasar absorbs Ego's essence and exiles himself into space, for fear of Ego expanding to planet-size.

Quasar helps to operate an Avengers deep-space sensing station with the support of Living Lightning and Monica Rambeau, and then becomes involved in Kang's War. He later assists the Fantastic Four in a battle with Galactus. When the Annihilation Wave strikes, Quasar and Nova try to stop it. Quasar is killed by Annihilus.

Wendell is restored to life in a Quantum Energy form thanks to the scientists of Project Pegasus.

Realm of Kings
Wendell volunteers to scout the rip in spacetime that occurs during the 2009 "War of Kings" storyline. During the trip, he regains physical form and discovers an alternate universe planning to invade his universe. Trying to return to his reality, Quasar encounters an Imperial Guard exploration ship. Quasar joins Nova's team to resist the invasion.

In an effort to prevent further galactic catastrophes, Quasar joins the Annihilators. The team protects Galador from an invasion of the Dire Wraiths and brings an end to the generations long war between the two worlds. The Annihilators learn of an attempt to revive the Magus by the Universal Church of Truth, and they prevent his resurrection with the aid of the Avengers. Quasar and the other Annihilators later confront Thanos and Adam Warlock while the two are on a cosmic crusade, and are defeated.

Pleasant Hill
During the Avengers: Standoff! storyline, Vaughn begins to lose control of the Quantum Bands and willingly allows his memories and appearance to be altered by Kobik in Pleasant Hill, a secret S.H.I.E.L.D. prison disguised as a gated community run by Maria Hill, who poses as its mayor. During this time, he works as the curator of the Pleasant Hill museum. When Wendell's memories are restored during Baron Helmut Zemo's prison revolt, he bequeaths the Quantum Bands to a young S.H.I.E.L.D. agent named Avril Kincaid and agrees to mentor her so she can become the next Quasar.

Powers and abilities
Wendell Vaughn is an athletic man with no inherent superhuman powers. He received extensive training in hand-to-hand combat, and moderate experience in the same. He is an expert in all basic espionage skills, as a S.H.I.E.L.D. Academy graduate.

Star Brand
While he possessed the power of the Star Brand, Quasar gained the abilities of flight, superhuman strength and resilience. He also was able to regenerate his entire body from minute remains and did not need to eat, drink or breathe. However, virtually all of the energy derived from the Star Brand was depleted not long after he gave it away. The Living Tribunal later stated that Quasar's body retains only an insignificant trace amount of energy.

Cosmic awareness
Quasar also briefly possessed the same powers of cosmic awareness that Eon granted to Kree soldier Mar-Vell (later known as the original Captain Marvel). By simply concentrating for a moment, he could gain complete knowledge about virtually anything in the universe.

Standard Operating Procedure
While Quasar's powers are quite powerful and diverse, since he doesn't make it a habit of using all of his power to destroy his opponent, it is important to note his standard operating procedure:
 * Contain. Quasar encounters someone who looks menacing. Immediate reaction: whip up a containment vessel around him to prevent further danger.
 * Drain. If it appears this menace has energy-based powers, Quasar taps those powers and drains them off. The length of time this takes depends on the extent of the menace's power. He cannot do this to persons whose energies are outside the electromagnetic spectrum.
 * Attack. Clobber the guy with a quantum-construct, be it a personal weapon (Quasar prefers nunchakus) or something big like a giant hammer or anvil.

Reception

 * In 2012, Quasar was ranked 36th in IGN's list of "The Top 50 Avengers".
 * In 2018, CBR.com ranked Quasar (Wendell Vaughn) 7th in their "25 Fastest Characters In The Marvel Universe" list.

Captain Universe Quasar
After a failed war with the Elder God Set and the deaths of every hero on Earth save the Silver Surfer, Quasar is merged with Captain Universe to form a super-being capable of capturing and defeating Set. Using the Eye of Agamotto, Quasar traps himself and Set within its pocket dimension.

Once, during a trip through alternate realities, the Earth-616 version of Quasar viewed his Captain Universe-enhanced counterpart and Set battling each other.

Guardians of the Galaxy
Tricked by Eon's evil "child" Era, Quasar jumps to a sentient nexus of energy and is killed. He ends up in the 'White Room', where all Quantum Band wielders go after death. Eon is entrapped with him, in the form of a centerpiece on the Room's table.

Her, now called Kismet, teams up with the long-lost son she had with Quasar, Starhawk. They visit Quasar's grave and learn what Era has done. With the aid of the Hawk-God Starhawk worships, the two vow to stop Era.

House of M Quasar
Wendell Vaughn briefly appears as a scientist in the alternate timeline. There is no indication that he possesses the quantum bands in this universe.

Last Avengers Story
Quasar is briefly mentioned as having gone insane in Last Avengers Story #1, but does not appear.

Marvel Zombies
In Marvel Zombies: Dead Days #1, Quasar is one of the heroes attending the briefing given by Nick Fury about defending their world from the zombie plague. A zombified Quasar is featured in the 2009 limited series Marvel Zombies Return, part of a super-powered zombie force including the Super-Skrull, Namor, Moon Knight, and Thundra. The group destroys many of the somewhat heroic zombies featured in Marvel Zombies 2. Quasar murders his reality's human Kitty Pryde, holding her underwater until she is forced to turn solid, upon which it is implied that Namor eats her. Quasar and his zombie cohorts are killed at the end of the series.

Ultimate Marvel
In the Ultimate Marvel universe, S.H.I.E.L.D. agent Wendell Vaughn is the head of security for the top secret Project Pegasus in Devil's Point, Wyoming. He first appears in Ultimate Power #1, when Project Pegasus is attacked by the Serpent Squad until stopped by the Fantastic Four.

In other media
Quasar appears as a playable character in Lego Marvel's Avengers.

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Gaseous diffusion

Gaseous diffusion is a technology that was used to produce enriched uranium by forcing gaseous uranium hexafluoride (UF6) through microporous membranes. This produces a slight separation (enrichment factor 1.0043) between the molecules containing uranium-235 (235U) and uranium-238 (238U). By use of a large cascade of many stages, high separations can be achieved. It was the first process to be developed that was capable of producing enriched uranium in industrially useful quantities, but is nowadays considered obsolete, having been superseded by the more-efficient gas centrifuge process (enrichment factor 1.05 to 1.2).

Gaseous diffusion was devised by Francis Simon and Nicholas Kurti at the Clarendon Laboratory in 1940, tasked by the MAUD Committee with finding a method for separating uranium-235 from uranium-238 in order to produce a bomb for the British Tube Alloys project. The prototype gaseous diffusion equipment itself was manufactured by Metropolitan-Vickers (MetroVick) at Trafford Park, Manchester, at a cost of £150,000 for four units, for the M. S. Factory, Valley. This work was later transferred to the United States when the Tube Alloys project became subsumed by the later Manhattan Project.

Background
Of the 33 known radioactive primordial nuclides, two (235U and 238U) are isotopes of uranium. These two isotopes are similar in many ways, except that only 235U is fissile (capable of sustaining a nuclear chain reaction of nuclear fission with thermal neutrons). In fact, 235U is the only naturally occurring fissile nucleus. Because natural uranium is only about 0.72% 235U by mass, it must be enriched to a concentration of 2–5% to be able to support a continuous nuclear chain reaction when normal water is used as the moderator. The product of this enrichment process is called enriched uranium.

Technology
Gaseous diffusion is based on Graham's law, which states that the rate of effusion of a gas is inversely proportional to the square root of its molecular mass. For example, in a box with a microporous membrane containing a mixture of two gases, the lighter molecules will pass out of the container more rapidly than the heavier molecules, if the pore diameter is smaller than the mean free path length (molecular flow). The gas leaving the container is somewhat enriched in the lighter molecules, while the residual gas is somewhat depleted. A single container wherein the enrichment process takes place through gaseous diffusion is called a diffuser.
 * Scientific basis

UF6 is the only compound of uranium sufficiently volatile to be used in the gaseous diffusion process. Fortunately, fluorine consists of only a single isotope 19F, so that the 1% difference in molecular weights between 235UF6 and 238UF6 is due only to the difference in weights of the uranium isotopes. For these reasons, UF6 is the only choice as a feedstock for the gaseous diffusion process. UF6, a solid at room temperature, sublimes at 56.4 °C (133 °F) at 1 atmosphere. The triple point is at 64.05 °C and 1.5 bar. Applying Graham's law gives:
 * Uranium hexafluoride

 * $${\mbox{Rate}_1 \over \mbox{Rate}_2}=\sqrt{M_2 \over M_1}=\sqrt{352.041206 \over 349.034348}=1.004298...$$

where:
 * Rate1 is the rate of effusion of 235UF6.
 * Rate2 is the rate of effusion of 238UF6.
 * M1 is the molar mass of 235UF6 = 235.043930 + 6 × 18.998403  = 349.034348 g·mol−1
 * M2 is the molar mass of 238UF6 = 238.050788 + 6 × 18.998403  = 352.041206 g·mol−1

This explains the 0.4% difference in the average velocities of 235UF6 molecules over that of 238UF6 molecules.

UF6 is a highly corrosive substance. It is an oxidant and a Lewis acid which is able to bind to fluoride, for instance the reaction of copper(II) fluoride with uranium hexafluoride in acetonitrile is reported to form copper(II) heptafluorouranate(VI), Cu(UF7)2. It reacts with water to form a solid compound, and is very difficult to handle on an industrial scale. As a consequence, internal gaseous pathways must be fabricated from austenitic stainless steel and other heat-stabilized metals. Non-reactive fluoropolymers such as Teflon must be applied as a coating to all valves and seals in the system.

Gaseous diffusion plants typically use aggregate barriers (porous membranes) constructed of sintered nickel or aluminum, with a pore size of 10–25 nanometers (this is less than one-tenth the mean free path of the UF6 molecule). They may also use film-type barriers, which are made by boring pores through an initially nonporous medium. One way this can be done is by removing one constituent in an alloy, for instance using hydrogen chloride to remove the zinc from silver-zinc (Ag-Zn) or sodium hydroxide to remove aluminum from Ni-Al alloy.
 * Barrier materials

Because the molecular weights of 235UF6 and 238UF6 are nearly equal, very little separation of the 235U and 238U occurs in a single pass through a barrier, that is, in one diffuser. It is therefore necessary to connect a great many diffusers together in a sequence of stages, using the outputs of the preceding stage as the inputs for the next stage. Such a sequence of stages is called a cascade. In practice, diffusion cascades require thousands of stages, depending on the desired level of enrichment.
 * Energy requirements

All components of a diffusion plant must be maintained at an appropriate temperature and pressure to assure that the UF6 remains in the gaseous phase. The gas must be compressed at each stage to make up for a loss in pressure across the diffuser. This leads to compression heating of the gas, which then must be cooled before entering the diffuser. The requirements for pumping and cooling make diffusion plants enormous consumers of electric power. Because of this, gaseous diffusion was the most expensive method used until recently for producing enriched uranium.

History
Workers working on the Manhattan Project in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, developed several different methods for the separation of isotopes of uranium. Three of these methods were used sequentially at three different plants in Oak Ridge to produce the 235U for "Little Boy" and other early nuclear weapons. In the first step, the S-50 uranium enrichment facility used the thermal diffusion process to enrich the uranium from 0.7% up to nearly 2% 235U. This product was then fed into the gaseous diffusion process at the K-25 plant, the product of which was around 23% 235U. Finally, this material was fed into calutrons at the Y-12. These machines (a type of mass spectrometer) employed electromagnetic isotope separation to boost the final 235U concentration to about 84%.

The preparation of UF6 feedstock for the K-25 gaseous diffusion plant was the first ever application for commercially produced fluorine, and significant obstacles were encountered in the handling of both fluorine and UF6. For example, before the K-25 gaseous diffusion plant could be built, it was first necessary to develop non-reactive chemical compounds that could be used as coatings, lubricants and gaskets for the surfaces that would come into contact with the UF6 gas (a highly reactive and corrosive substance). Scientists of the Manhattan Project recruited William T. Miller, a professor of organic chemistry at Cornell University, to synthesize and develop such materials, because of his expertise in organofluorine chemistry. Miller and his team developed several novel non-reactive chlorofluorocarbon polymers that were used in this application.

Calutrons were inefficient and expensive to build and operate. As soon as the engineering obstacles posed by the gaseous diffusion process had been overcome and the gaseous diffusion cascades began operating at Oak Ridge in 1945, all of the calutrons were shut down. The gaseous diffusion technique then became the preferred technique for producing enriched uranium.

At the time of their construction in the early 1940s, the gaseous diffusion plants were some of the largest buildings ever constructed. Large gaseous diffusion plants were constructed by the United States, the Soviet Union (including a plant that is now in Kazakhstan), the United Kingdom, France, and China. Most of these have now closed or are expected to close, unable to compete economically with newer enrichment techniques. Some of the technology used in pumps and membranes remains top secret. Some of the materials that were used remain subject to export controls, as a part of the continuing effort to control nuclear proliferation.

Current status
In 2008, gaseous diffusion plants in the United States and France still generated 33% of the world's enriched uranium. However, the French plant (Eurodif's Georges-Besse plant) definitively closed in June 2012, and the Paducah Gaseous Diffusion Plant in Kentucky operated by the United States Enrichment Corporation (USEC) (the last fully functioning uranium enrichment facility in the United States to employ the gaseous diffusion process ) ceased enrichment in 2013. The only other such facility in the United States, the Portsmouth Gaseous Diffusion Plant in Ohio, ceased enrichment activities in 2001. Since 2010, the Ohio site is now used mainly by AREVA, a French conglomerate, for the conversion of depleted UF6 to uranium oxide.

As existing gaseous diffusion plants became obsolete, they were replaced by second generation gas centrifuge technology, which requires far less electric power to produce equivalent amounts of separated uranium. AREVA replaced its Georges Besse gaseous diffusion plant with the Georges Besse II centrifuge plant.

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User:JeanLukPikkrd

JeanLukPikkrd has been a Wikipedian for about a year or so. He lives in California.

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Garfield Peak (Wyoming)

Garfield Peak is a prominent mountain in the U.S. state of Wyoming. It is the highest point in the Rattlesnake Hills.

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Talk:Current events/Too much analysis

too much analysis
Entries in this Current Events page are becoming too cumbersome. Please leave out detailed analysis - such analysis should appear elsewhere in Wikipedia. Please limit your entries to one or two sentences. Kingturtle 04:50, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

 * Agreed. I started chopping the Nader story down and people went and added stuff back (it's been really trimmed now). -- Cyrius|✎ 05:22, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I made this suggestion on the Talk page of User:Mateo SA, and User:Kevin baas replied on that page that such a belief does not represent Wikipedia consensus. OK, let's discuss that here, then. What is the consensus of the community concerning the use of the Current events page? My understanding was that it was a place to add maybe two or three sentences, which linked to Wikipedia articles in which more information could be included (where appropriate), and an off-site link to a news article with all the details. On the article about the mother of the dead soldier from Iraq being arrested for her protest at a Laura Bush rally, do we really need two extra sentences in which a third person, not directly involved in the dispute, talks about how she's trained to deal with protesters? I think the use of excessive prose on Current events is an attempt at an end-around to include POV. RickK 18:22, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

Firstly, let me say that I've been misrepresented by RickK: I said they do not necessarily represent the consensus. Now that that correction is out of the way... I think that we should not have more than a brief paragraph. We should write just enough to give the reader an accurate and neutral view. The amount of text necessary to do this varies depending on the complexity and intensity of the issue, but I don't think we would ever need more than a brief paragraph. For example, in the Laura Bush rally issue cited above by RickK, we do need the fact that she bought a ticket. The first impression is important, it's quintessential that it be neutral and contain information that is critical. Kevin Baas | talk 18:33, 2004 Sep 19 (UTC)

 * Why is the fact that the lady bought the ticket worth including in our article, when it can be found in the article that's linked to? Please note:  My politics has nothing to do with my concerns about this article.  And others.  RickK 19:25, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

 * As formerly mentioned: first impression. Without it being mentioned, people will form the opinion (prejudice) that she was trespassing; that she did not buy a ticket. With it being mentioned, people will know that she did buy a ticket and therefore was not trespassing, and furthermore that she was wrongfully arrested. That's a pretty big difference. That's what I meant when I said "information that is critical". Kevin Baas | talk 19:35, 2004 Sep 19 (UTC)

I think the main purpose of having a Current Events section is to provide a convenient set of links to topics and persons in the news, in order for users to gain background and context to the news. Note that this is not the same as trying to report or analyze the news itself. We have looked silly in the past trying to report "breaking news" on the main page (for example back in April and the Ryongchon disaster); professional news sources (of which there are many on the web) utilize extensive fact-checking, vetting, and weasel words when reporting on breaking events, for good reason. The collaborative approach that works well for reference material is simply unsuitable for news reporting, IMO. Given this, I'd prefer to see the Current Events section be as unadorned a list of links as possible. Jgm 18:50, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

 * I agree with this; simply say what happened, with as many internal links and a few external links (but for pete's sake, one or two is sufficient - at one point the Nader story had five links!). No extra details that should go in an article, and no minor news stories like that rally one. Sorry, but I don't really see why it was no CE to begin with. --Golbez 21:09, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

 * I agree with Golbez's above statement. Kevin Baas | talk 00:53, 2004 Sep 20 (UTC)

 * Regarding external links, would it be worth just linking to a Google News search on the topic? That way the use gets a range of articles, constantly updated, and from different POV. -- Chuq 01:59, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

 * I think there should be two or three new sources (one is too susceptible to POV and incompleteness, four is too many), and then a google search link sounds like a good idea. But I don't thing the link should replace the direct news links. Kevin Baas | talk 13:51, 2004 Sep 20 (UTC)

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Talk:Garfield Peak (Wyoming)

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Peakbagger.com states that this peak is actually in the Rattlesnake Hills, not the Granite Mountains. I have left it as the latter for now as this is what is given on Granite Mountains (Wyoming). RedWolf 02:13, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

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WRI

WRI is an initialism for:
 * Worldtech Resources Institute, a business college in Camarines Sur province, Philippines
 * Weingarten Realty Investors, an American real estate investment trust
 * Wesley Research Institute, a medical research institute affiliated with Wesley Hospital (Brisbane), Australia
 * Wolfram Research, Inc., an American software development company
 * World Resources Institute, a non-profit group working for sustainable natural resource management
 * War Resisters' International, an international anti-war organization
 * Weber Research Institute, a research group at the Polytechnic Institute of New York University
 * "WRI", designation sometimes used for a Write-in candidate
 * Wire Reinforcement Institute, American trade association for wire reinforcement of concrete construction
 * .WRI, file extension for a Microsoft Write file
 * WRI, IATA code for McGuire Air Force Base
 * Windber Research Institute, a non-profit biomedical research institute in Windber, Pennsylvania
 * Wuhan Research Institute of Post & Telecommunications, a branch of Wuhan University
 * Scottish Women's Rural Institutes (known as WRI or SWRI), former name of Scottish Women's Institutes

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Talk:List of longest rivers in the United States by state

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Does the river have to start and end within the state boundary to count, or does it include rivers that merely pass through the state? That should be made clear in the article. - DavidWBrooks 02:14, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well, looking at the article a little more closely, I see it includes multi-state rivers like the Mississippi, so the question is answered! I will make it clear in the introduction. - DavidWBrooks 02:15, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

longest?
how long does a river have to be to be included in this list? Hmains 20:26, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Can created List of longest streams of Alaska?
2001:EE0:4141:19F3:394A:37C8:9D82:40BC (talk) 10:49, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Entirely within
The lists include a note about the longest river "entirely within" each state. An IP editor recently changed the entry for New York for the Mohawk river to the Hudson river. At issue, it appears, is whether "entirely within" a state means "having both banks in the given state throughout its entire length" (which would be the Mohawk) or "never having both banks outside the given state" (which would be the Hudson). I have no opinion on this issue, other than thinking that the same definition should be used for every state and that it would be best if the difference between these two were clarified. YBG (talk) 14:45, 17 July 2021 (UTC)


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John William Ward

John William Ward may refer to:

 * John Ward, 1st Earl of Dudley (1781–1833), British statesman
 * John William Ward (manager) (born 1942), British trade unionist and opera administrator
 * John William Ward (professor) (1922–1985), professor of English and history, and President of Amherst College

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Talk:Current events/Ongoing events

When should we add the US Presidential Campaign Race?
I was just wondering when we should add the US Presidential Campaign Race to the ongoing events area. Seeing as how it's more active and influential than the Same-sex marriage controversy (which has died down a bit), I would be in favor of adding it immediately. However, under the "influential and immediate" standard, we would have added it a few months back. Which is why I'm bothering to ask here. Any opinions?--Gregb 21:31, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

 * Whoops, I looked right below it and saw the special space for prez elections. I guess, my new question is, does the actual campaigning deserve inclusion (and replication) as an ongoing event? *smacks self on head*--Gregb 21:31, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

 * Should we arrange the "Presidential Campaign" notices in chronological order, with the most imminent coming first?--Phil | Talk 14:45, Apr 13, 2004 (UTC)

Speaking of presidential elections, keep in mind that according to Bertrand de Jouvenal, "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves."

Political Debates
[This section was started sometime in September 2004] Is it really good to have the Same-Sex Marriage Debate in the USA listed as an ongoing event? Of course it is taking place right now and it's a hot topic in the USA, but if this stays in, basically every important political debate of every nation can be added, not? Unlike for example the U.S. presidential election this debate will have zero influence outside of the USA.
 * the debate is going on in Canada and some other countries. It is a debate with a potential for lasting worldwide effects, but then again so is the "debate" on stem cell research, and WMD proliferation, and role of the UN, and on what to do about the AIDS pandemic. These are just sort of Zeitgeist events. Part of me says that part of the reason people read and update the Current events page is to make sense of the bigger picture, so these sorts of "news" items shouldn't be strictly verboten. User:MPS

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User talk:Dazissimo

Thanks for uploading Image:Maitreya.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know whether it's released under the GFDL, whether fair use is claimed, or what? Thanks,   – Quadell (talk) (help)   02:20, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

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Talk:Empire Builder

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below. It is generally held that we do not use disambiguation to distinguish between an article and a redlink, so the existence or notability of the ship is not an issue for these purposes. The major issue, then, is whether the train is significantly more prominent than the game, and for this the current disambiguation page/hatnote setup appears to be sufficient. Dekimasu よ! 02:18, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Empire Builder → Empire Builder (Amtrak)—Empire Builder should be a disambiguation page - the train, a board game, a ship and a person can all be meant by Empire Builder or Empire builder.—Mjroots (talk) 14:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Survey

 * Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with  or  , then sign your comment with  . Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

 * Support per my nom. Mjroots (talk) 14:11, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * As the train predated Amtrak, I suggest (and support) "Empire Builder (train)". Kablammo (talk) 14:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with Kablammo, I suggest (and support) "Empire Builder (train)" given the pre-Amtrak history. BenFranske (talk) 16:05, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree with Kablammo, "Empire Builder (train)" would be more accurate.. and I support that over the existing "Empire Builder", which is not as clear. tedder (talk) 18:11, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Clear primary usage. The train gets almost nine times as many page views as the board game, and the ship article has not even been created. The train was named after James J. Hill, but that does not conflict. 199.125.109.19 (talk) 17:05, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Just because the ship article hasn't been created yet doesn't mean that it won't get created in the future. Mjroots (talk) 09:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Just because it might get created in the future has no bearing on which existing Wikipedia article is the primary topic. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Comment: I'm happy with the creation of the disambiguation page and the hatnote on the article about the train. Seems a reasonable way to tackle the problem as it looks like the primary use is for the train. Mjroots (talk) 12:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Support move to Empire Builder (train). Abtract (talk) 18:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Support, Unless it is an overwhelming case of primary usage, I would agree that that the simple page, in this cae, Empire Builder always be a disambiguation page. speednat (talk) 19:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Support move, but I have no opinion as to the qualifier ("Amtrak" or "train"). Note also that in a potential dab page it might be mentioned that the Oregon state song, "Oregon, My Oregon", makes reference to "Land of the Empire Builders". Katr67 (talk) 21:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Only this article or the board game could be titled Empire Builder. Based on page views over several months and incomimg links, this article is overwhelmingly the primary topic (not to mention the game came after the train). If this article is moved, someone will have to update over 200 links for no good reason, or they will all point to a dab page. Having said that, a page called Empire Builder (disambiguation) would be a good idea for the other three uses, so I'll create that; it can be deleted if this page is moved. Station1 (talk) 21:50, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Support rename, but would prefer Empire Builder (passenger train) for the same reason Kablammo suggests Empire Builder (train). DanTD (talk) 12:31, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose, current base name article appears to be the primary topic. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose - think about this. Ship article has not been created. Board game was named after the train. And who searches "empire builder" when looking for James J. Hill? The primary topic is the passenger train. — Ed 17  (Talk /  Contribs)  01:06, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * OpposeI'm not sure. The ship isn't very important suck down there on a list. The nickname is just that, a nickname and I think you'd need to show it's important enough to overthrow the most common usage... and the board game... if its name was chosen from the name of the train anyways then it doesn't need to be equal to it. I think the order is Hill's nickname was used to name the railroad was used to name the board game... and the ship is unrelated. I think Empire Builder (disambiguation) suffices as we have it now. Anyone going to Empire Builder will see the disambiguation page and also the reference to Hill in the article. Maybe a reference to how it was named belongs in the intro as well. But I have a hard time believing that the railroad isn't by far and away the most thought of for the words. gren グレン 23:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * (copied from WP:RM) — Ed 17  (Talk /  Contribs)  01:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose I think it has overwhelming primary usage. The ship isn't notable enough to have its own article. The board game is using the name of the Amtrak service. It's only the nickname of Hill so even if he is more important it's only his nickname even if he gave his name to the service. Also, I think that it shouldn't be move to Empire Builder (train) because it's not a train... maybe Empire Builder (train service) or Empire Builder (train route). gren グレン 08:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The ship is notable enough to have its own article. That is why a redlink has been made on the List of Empire ships with a suffix beginning with "B". Notability of cargo ships with no significant events during their existence has been established at this AfD debate. Mjroots (talk) 09:30, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:

All Wikiprojects associated with this article informed of the requested move. Mjroots (talk) 14:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It may well be that the part of the disparity in the search results is the simple fact that folks who search for "Empire Builder" automatically go the article on the train, even if they really want the game, or something else. (In other words, there are false positives in the search results.) Now likely the train is looked for more than the game, but the original meaning of "Empire Builder" is not the train, but the person for whom it was named. A dab page would accomodate everyone equally. Kablammo (talk) 22:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

 * I agree with Kablammo on this, I am dealing with the same on Khabarovsk, where before I created the dab page there was no easy way, and the page hits are probably out of whack becaue of this speednat (talk) 00:34, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * An easy way to tell if people are getting to the wrong Empire Builder page is if they then click on something else. Almost no one does. 199.125.109.19 (talk) 01:12, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I know that this is off subject, but how do you see where someone goes after a specific page. This could be useful in another discussion I am having, see Talk:Khabarovsk speednat (talk) 03:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well in this case I do not know where they go, but I do know where they do not go. For example, if you had an article named Foo, and you saw it got 100 hits a day, and it had a link to Foo (disambiguation), which got 10 hits a day you would know that they were not clicking on that. If Foo got 100 hits and Foo (dis) got 99 hits, you would reasonably assume that 99% of them were finding themselves in the wrong place and were clicking Foo (dis) to try to get to the right place. Just add up all the clicks for all the tophat links and see if they total the article hits. If they don't come close, you are ok. If they do, you probably have the primary topic in the wrong place. 199.125.109.124 (talk) 04:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

New Stop/Station
Reciently, the Empire Builder began scheduled stops at Leavenworth, Washington. This change needs to be reflected somewhere in the article and in the map.

Saint Paul Union Depot
The article states: "In Minnesota, the Builder is expected to return to Saint Paul Union Depot in November 2013, 41 years after it last served the station the day before the formation of Amtrak." The line is grammatically awkward. Also, Amtrak was formed on May 1, 1971. Did the Empire Builder stop serving Saint Paul Union Depot the year Amtrak began? Plus, it should be 42 years, not 41. Finally, the reference provided at the end of the statement doesn't support the statement. I don't have enough expertise in this subject to fix this. Thanks. Richard Apple (talk) 05:38, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Steam loc's
The Historical equipment used section lacks any info on locomotives used during the steam era. Sca (talk) 18:02, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Assessment(Idaho)
I kept the WP:Idaho banner on here, but it doesn't actually stop in Idaho...yet. There has been talk about it for several years. - Mjquinn_id (talk) 02:22, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Marijuana party

Does this even need an article? Come on... what would people think happens at marijuana parties? 129.21.109.1 02:29, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Marijuana party
Dicdef that only exists to contrast with Marijuana Party. Wouldn't even be useful for Wiktionary since the definition is blatantly obvious from its component words. DopefishJustin (・∀・) 05:38, Oct 15, 2004 (UTC)
 * That's definitely redirect material. -- [[User:Bobdoe| Bob  Doe ]] 05:46, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I've redirected it and added in the meaning to Marijuana Parties. This really didn't need to get to VfD.  Be bold!  However I've left the boilerplate and listing for someone who knows the VfD rules better than me to remove--Tomheaton 08:36, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep the information on the MP page. Intrigue 20:36, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, un-redirect. Mark Richards 17:57, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete Carr 18:01, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

It doesn't look like there was concensus here, I count 2 deletes, 2 redirects and 2 keep with no redirect, so I think the status quo applies - I will un-redirect if there is no objection. Intrigue 20:22, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Really, there's no point in unredirecting. The only difference between the two names is capitalisation, which is basically ambiguous.  Therefore we need disambiguation.  With the two articles on the same page, a user can disambiguate for themselves.  If the articles got bigger then a disambiguation page would be necessary, but it's fine as it is for now.  Think about a situation where a user wanted to know about political parties but got this page instead - there's no indication that a capitalised version exists.--Tomheaton 22:45, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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IBM MQ

IBM MQ is a family of message-oriented middleware products that IBM launched in December 1993. It was originally called MQSeries, and was renamed WebSphere MQ in 2002 to join the suite of WebSphere products. In April 2014, it was renamed IBM MQ. The products that are included in the MQ family are IBM MQ, IBM MQ Advanced, IBM MQ Appliance, IBM MQ for z/OS, and IBM MQ on IBM Cloud. IBM MQ also has containerised deployment options.

MQ allows independent and potentially non-concurrent applications on a distributed system to securely communicate with each other, using messages. MQ is available on a large number of platforms (both IBM and non-IBM), including z/OS (mainframe), IBM i, Transaction Processing Facility, UNIX (AIX, HP-UX, Solaris), HP NonStop, OpenVMS, Linux, and Microsoft Windows.

MQ Components
The core components of MQ are:
 * Message: Messages are collections of binary or character (for instance ASCII or EBCDIC) data that have some meaning to a participating program. As in other communication protocols, storage, routing, and delivery information is added to the message before transmission and stripped from the message prior to delivery to the receiving application.
 * Queue: Message queues are objects that store messages in an application.
 * Queue Manager: a system service that provides a logical container for the message queue. It is responsible for transferring data to other queue managers via message channels. Although not strictly required for message-oriented middleware, is an IBM MQ prerequisite. Queue managers handle storage, timing issues, triggering, and all other functions not directly related to the actual movement of data.

Programs integrated with IBM MQ use a consistent application program interface (API) across all platforms.

Messaging types
MQ supports point-to-point and Publish-Subscribe messaging.

APIs
APIs directly supported by IBM include:
 * IBM Message Queue Interface (MQI) for C, COBOL, PL/I, Java, Rexx, RPG, and C++
 * Java Message Service (JMS)
 * XMS for C/C++ and .NET
 * .NET
 * Representational State Transfer
 * SOAP

Additional APIs (not officially supported) are also available via third parties, including:
 * Perl interface (developed and contributed by Hildo Biersma), available from CPAN.
 * Python (programming language) interface PyMQI (originally developed by Les Smithson), available from PyPI
 * Windows PowerShell

Features
One-time delivery: MQ uses once and once only delivery. This quality of service typically prevents message loss or duplication.

Asynchronous messaging: MQ provides application designers with a mechanism to achieve non-time-dependent architecture. Messages can be sent from one application to another, regardless of whether the applications are running at the same time. If a message receiver application is not running when a sender sends it a message, the queue manager will hold the message until the receiver asks for it. Ordering of all messages is preserved, by default this is in FIFO order of receipt at the local queue within priority of the message.

Data transformation: e.g. Big Endian to Little Endian, or EBCDIC to ASCII. This is accomplished through the use of message data exits. Exits are compiled applications that run on the queue manager host, and are executed by the IBM MQ software at the time data transformation is needed.

Message-driven architecture framework: IBM MQ allows receipt of messages to "trigger" other applications to run.

Range of APIs: It implements the Java Message Service (JMS) standard API, and also has its own proprietary API, known as the Message Queuing Interface (MQI), which preceded the JMS several years in existence. As of version 8.0.0.4, MQ also supports the MQ Light API.

Clustering: Multiple MQ implementations share the processing of messages, providing load balancing.

Communication
Queue managers communicate with the outside world either through:
 * Bindings: a direct software connection. Generally faster, but limited to programs running on the same physical host as the queue manager.
 * A network or "client" connection: applications using a client connection can connect to a queue manager on any other host in the network. The physical location of the queue manager is irrelevant, as long as it is reachable over the network.

Communication between queue managers
This relies on a channel. Each queue manager uses one or more channels to send and receive data to other queue managers. A channel is uni-directional; a second channel is required to return data. In a TCP/IP based network, a channel sends or receives data on a specific port.

Channel types:
 * Sending channel: has a defined destination and is associated with a specific transmission queue (the mechanism by which messages are queued awaiting transmission on the channel).
 * Receiving channel: receives data from any other queue manager with a sending channel of the same name.

When a receiving channel receives a message, it is examined to see which queue manager and queue it is destined for. In the event of a communications failure, MQ can automatically re-establish a connection when the problem is resolved.

The listener is the application's network interface to the queue manager. The listener detects connections from incoming channels, and manages the connection of the sending channels to the receiving channels. In a TCP/IP network, the listener will "listen" for connections on a specific port.

Transmitting data to a queue on another queue manager
Queue types:
 * Local queue: represents the location where data is stored awaiting processing.
 * Remote queue: represents a queue on another queue manager. They define the destination queue, which is one element of the routing mechanism for messages.
 * Cluster queue: represents a queue which is reachable via any queue manager in its cluster.

A message is placed on a remote queue. The messages goes to a temporary storage transmission queue associated with a channel. On placing a message on a remote queue, the message is transmitted across the remote channel. If the transmission is successful, the message is removed from the transmit queue. On receiving a message, the receiving queue manager examines the message to determine whether the message is for itself or if must go to another queue manager. If the receiving queue manager, the required queue will be checked, and if it exists, the message is placed on this queue. If not, the message is placed on the dead letter queue. MQ has features to manage efficient transmission of data across a variety of communication media. For example, messages can be batched together until a queue reaches a particular depth.

Ordering
Although the queue is FIFO, it is ordered based on the receipt in the local queue, not the committing of the message from the sender. Messages can be prioritized, and by default, the queue is prioritized in order of arrival. Queues will only be in sequence of addition if the message is added locally. Message grouping can be used to ensure a set of messages are in a specific order, aside from that, if sequence is critical, it is the application's responsibility to place sequence data in the message or implement a handshaking mechanism via a return queue. In reality, ordering will be maintained in straightforward configurations.

The log
The other element of a queue manager is the log. As a message is placed on a queue or a configuration change is made, the data is also logged. In the event of a failure, the log is used to recreate damaged objects and recreate messages. Only persistent messages are recreated when a failure occurs—"non-persistent" messages are lost. Non-persistent messages can be sent across a channel set to a fast mode, in which delivery is not assured in the event of a channel failure.

MQ supports both circular and linear logging.

Retrieving messages from queues
Information can be retrieved from queues either by polling the queue to check for available data at suitable intervals, or alternatively MQ can trigger an event, allowing a client application to respond to the delivery of a message.

Availability
IBM MQ offers a variety of solutions to cater for availability:

Replicated Data Queue Manager (RDQM / 'Easy HA'- MQ Advanced on distributed only): Synchronous replication between three servers that all share a floating IP address.

Queue Manager Clusters: Groups of two or more queue managers on one or more computers are defined to a cluster, providing automatic interconnection, and allow queues to be shared among them for load balancing and redundancy.

Queue Sharing Groups (z/OS only): In a Shared Queue environment, an application can connect to any of the queue managers within the queue-sharing group. Because all the queue managers in the queue-sharing group can access the same set of shared queues, the application does not depend on the availability of a particular queue manager. This gives greater availability if a queue manager stops because all the other queue managers in the queue-sharing group can continue processing the queue.

Multi-Instance Queue Managers (available from v7.0.1): Instances of the same queue manager are configured on two or more computers with their queues and meta data residing on shared storage. By starting multiple instances, one instance becomes the active instance and the other instances become standbys. If the active instance fails, a standby instance running on a different computer automatically takes over.

Version end of support dates
The following table applies to MQ software. The MQ Appliance has different lifecycle dates for both firmware and hardware than those in the table.

Background architectural reference
With the advent of computers, IBM saw an opportunity to apply new technology to the need for message switching.

In the early 1960s, IBM marketed the IBM 7740 Communication Control System and the IBM 7750 Programmed Transmission Control, which were programmable message switching systems.

The IBM System/360 was announced in April 1964 and with it came communication access methods such as BTAM and QTAM (Basic and Queued Telecommunications Access Methods). In 1971, TCAM, the Telecommunications Access Method, offered its users a more advanced form of message switching or message routing. TCAM was widely accepted, especially in the financial and brokerage industries. It supported asynchronous messaging, as with the later MQ. TCAM 3.0 added in reusable disk message queues for recovery soon thereafter, as with MQ. A high-level PL/I program could be used to access TRANSIENT datasets (dynamic message queues). Reading a message from a transient dataset resulted in that message being removed from the queue, as with a non-browse READ with MQ.

In the late 1970s, transaction management systems came into being, each trying to achieve a leadership position in the industry. Within IBM, CICS and IMS were chosen as strategic products to address the need for transaction management. Within both CICS and IMS, each had its version of message switching, IMS being a front-end queued system and CICS having its Transient Data facility as the possible basis for message switching.

CICS established itself as a popular transaction management system in the 1968-1971 timeframe. Those users who had adopted TCAM for its message handling capabilities now wanted a combined use of TCAM with CICS. In December 1971, IBM announced CICS support of TCAM as part of the CICS/OS-Standard product, to be delivered in December 1972. For interested customers, this enabled them to use TCAM for its message handling strengths and also have TCAM-connected terminals or computers interface with CICS online applications.

In January 1973, TCAM continued to be supported by CICS/OS-Standard Version 2.3. However, TCAM support was omitted from the initial release of CICS/VS, announced in February 1973 and delivered in June 1974. Needless to say, many CICS-TCAM customers were not happy with that product direction.

With considerable pressure from CICS-TCAM customers, the CICS support of TCAM was reinstated in the CICS/VS 1.1 product, as of September 1974. In addition to the previous DCB support, with this reinstatement of TCAM support, CICS began to support TCAM access via VTAM, also known as the ACB support. CICS TCAM ACB support was discontinued as of the CICS/ESA Version 3 product in 1990.

In 1992, IBM announced a new product called MQSeries. This brand name was later renamed to WebSphere MQ (sometimes shortened to WMQ) in 2002 to support the WebSphere family name and the product. In 2014, it was renamed IBM MQ. MQ was to be the extension of TCAM functionality from IBM-only systems to all other platforms. MQ has an architecture that enables heterogeneous systems to communicate with each other (e.g. IBM, HP, Sun, Tandem, etc.). MQ can be used with CICS systems to send and receive data to/from any other MQ-eligible system. MQ can be used to initiate work in a CICS system or a CICS transaction can initiate work in another CICS or non-CICS system.

IBM MQ now supports 80 different environments and has become the leading message assured delivery switching/routing product in the industry.

MQ and web services
IBM MQ can be used as a foundation for creating service-oriented architectures. Several additional product options exist to help convert legacy programs into functioning web services through the use of MQ. Larger, heterogeneous enterprises often appear as a federation of somewhat autonomous domains based on lines of business, functional or governance areas. In such environments, some services may be shared or reused only within a single domain, while others may be shared or reused throughout the enterprise. IBM MQ provides the means by which communication exists between lines-of-business or otherwise separate business domains.

A related product in the IBM MQ product family, called IBM App Connect Enterprise (formerly IBM Integration Bus / WebSphere Message Broker) enables a diverse and robust set of extensions to queue-based architectures. Using IBM Integration Bus, users can implement a WebServices front-end, complete with WSDL file support that can interact with any queue-based application.

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Panna, India

Panna is a city and a municipality in Panna district in the Indian state of Madhya Pradesh. It is famous for its diamond mines and temples. It is the administrative center of Panna District.

History
Panna was a Bundela Rajput State. It was a Gond settlement until the 13th or 17th century (cite reference), when the Gondi were defeated by the Chandelas they migrated to other parts of Madhya Pradesh. Until that date, there were many rulers of the area. The famous mandir of Padmavatipuri Dham, adorned with divine lustre, is located in Panna town at the centre of Vindhyachal in Madhya Pradesh. The itinerant sage Mahamati Prannath and his disciples reached Panna with a divine message of awakening one's soul. Seeing a desert island, he decided to unfurl the flag of Jagani there. He helped the king Chhatrasal and adorned him with the title of Maharaja. He remained there for eleven years, and took samadhi inside the dome. The place, therefore, is known as the seat of salvation [Muktipitha] or Padmavatipuri Dham.

Panna was the capital of Chhatar Sal, the Bundela Rajput leader who led a revolt against the Mughal Empire. Upon his death in 1732, his kingdom was divided among his sons, with one-third of the kingdom going to his ally, the Maratha Peshwa Baji Rao I.

The Kingdom of Panna went to Harde Sah, the eldest son of Chhatar Sal Of Bundela Rajput Clan. In the early 19th century, Panna became a princely state of British India, and gained control states of the states of Nagod and Sohawal. Raja Nirpat Singh assisted the British in the Revolt of 1857, and the British rewarded him with the title maharaja. Maharaja Mahendra Yadvendra Singh acceded to the Government of India on 1 January 1950, and the kingdom became Panna District of the new Indian state of Vindhya Pradesh. Vindhya Pradesh was merged into Madhya Pradesh on 1 November 1956.

Tourism
Panna has a tiger reserve which is called Panna National Park. The sightings of tigers in Panna have fallen over recent years, and official tiger population figures were disputed by naturalists. There were plans to relocate two tigresses to Panna in 2009, which happened, but the last male tiger meanwhile disappeared. A male tiger was relocated there. One of the relocated tigresses gave birth to three cubs in 2010. The reserve is home to a wide variety of other animals, many of which can be seen at closer quarters than in other reserves, because Panna has fewer visitors. There are jungle lodges and hotels near the reserve, it can also be reached from Khajuraho. Raneh fall, Pandav fall, brahspati kund and lakhanpur rain fall are also sites tourists visit during monsoon. Panna is also famous for its temples. Temples include Shree jugal Kishore ji, pran nath ji, Jagannath swami ji, ram Mandir and Govind dev ji temple.

Diamond mining
A large group of diamond deposits extends North-East on a branch of the Vindhya Range for 240 km or so, and is known as the Panna group. They do not cover an area of more than 20 acre. Great pits, 25 ft in diameter and, perhaps, 30 ft in depth, are dug for the sake of reaching the diamond conglomerate, which, in many cases, was only a very thin layer. According to Valentine Ball, who edited the 1676 'Travels in India' of Jean-Baptiste Tavernier, Tieffenthaler was the first European to visit the mines in 1765 and claimed that the Panna diamonds could not compare in hardness and fire with other locations in India. No really large diamonds have come from this area. The most productive mines were in the 1860s and were found in Sakaria, around 32 km from Panna. Four classifications were given to the Panna diamonds: first, Motichul, clear and brilliant; 2nd, Manik, with a faint orange tint; 3rd, Panna, verging in tint towards green; 4th, Bunsput, sepia coloured. Mines is situated in the interior of Panna district. Diamond mines in Panna are managed under the Diamond Mining Project of National Mineral Development Corporation (NMDC Ltd), a Public Sector Undertaking (PSU) owned by the Government of India. In other mines the land is leased to prospective miners every year by the government agency. The diamonds unearthed are all collected by the district magistrate of Panna and are auctioned in the month of January. Auctions are open to the public and require a Rs. 5000 deposit. Upwards of 100 diamonds of different carat and shade are offered for auction.

Panna State

 * Bundela Rajput Raja Chhatrasal (4 May 1649 – 20 December 1731)
 * Raja Harde Sah (1731–1739)
 * Raja Sabha Singh (1739–1752)
 * Raja Aman Singh (1752–1758)
 * Raja Hindupat Singh (1758–1778)
 * Raja Anirudh Singh (1778–1779)
 * interregnum (1779–1785)
 * Raja Dhokal Singh (1785–1798)
 * Raja Kishor Singh (1798–1834)
 * Raja Harbans Rai (1834–1849)
 * Maharaja Mahendra Nirpat Singh (1849–1870)
 * Maharaja Rudra Pratap Singh (1870–1893) born 1848.
 * Maharaja Mahendra Lokpal Singh (1893–1898)
 * Maharaja Mahendra Madho Singh (1898–1902)
 * Maharaja Mahendra Yadvendra Singh (1902-1 January 1950)

Geography
Panna is located at 24.72°N, 80.2°W. It has an average elevation of 406 metres (1332 ft).

Climate
Panna has humid subtropical climate (Köppen climate classification Cwa) with hot summers, a somewhat cooler monsoon season and cool winters. Heavy rainfall occurs in the monsoon season from June to September.

Transport
Panna Airport is currently non-operational, the nearest functional airport is Khajuraho Airport. Nearest rail head is Satna 75 km away, Khajuraho 45 km away. Bus service is available to all parts of Madhya Pradesh and some cities of other states like New Delhi, Faridabad, Agra, Kanpur, Jhansi, Gwalior, Nagpur, Allahabad. For Indore, Gwalior, Jabalpur and Bhopal sleeper/luxury/AC buses are available.

Demographics
As of the 2011 Census of India, In 2011, Panna had population of 59,091. Panna has an average adult literacy rate of 64.79%, lower than the national average of 74.04%: male literacy is 74.14%, and female literacy is 54..44%. In Panna, 16.10% of the population is under 6 years of age.

People from Panna

 * Rishikesh Pandey - music director, rapper and filmmaker in Bollywood.
 * Faizanuddin - former judge of the Supreme Court of India.
 * Ishtiyak Khan - Actor

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Magden

Magden (Swiss German: Magde) is a municipality in the district of Rheinfelden in the canton of Aargau in Switzerland.

It is located 3 km to the south of the Rheinfelden. Its Roman name was Magdinium, and it is the site of the ancient Magdalener spring which today serves as the water supply of the Feldschlösschen brewery in Rheinfelden, which was recently acquired by Carlsberg.

History
The first evidence of a human settlement is a paleolithic/neolithic village. A few, scattered Roman era items were discovered in Magden. Two empty Alamanni cist graves were also found near the village. The modern municipality of Magden is first mentioned in 804 as in curte Magaduninse. The counts of Thierstein and then their successors the Habsburgs ruled over Magden until 1797. They owned the land and exercised the Zwing und Bann rights over the entire village. With the Act of Mediation in 1803, the entire Fricktal, including Magden, joined the newly created Canton of Aargau. The first school opened in Magden in 1761.

The village church of St. Martin was built during the Frankish Empire. In 1036, Count Ulrich I von Lenzburg granted the patronage right over the village church to the monastery at Beromünster. They transferred the rights in 1351 to the monastery at Olsberg. The current church was built in 1620. When the Capuchin monastery in Rheinfelden was suppressed in 1811, their three altars were transferred to Magden. In 1806 the church came under the authority of the Canton of Aargau. In 1872 the majority of the villagers converted to the Christian Catholic Church of Switzerland. Then, in 1906 the Christian Catholic congregation took over the church. A Roman Catholic church was built in 1969 and a Reformed church was built in 1976.

Nearby Iglingen monastery and its Chapel of St. Niklaus is first mentioned in 1360. A group of Third order lay brothers moved into the monastery grounds in 1465. The monastery church was consecrated in 1509 and in the late 16th Century a convent for nuns was added. The church burned in 1860, and only the choir survived. This was converted to serve as a small chapel.

Toward the end of the 19th Century fruit (especially cherries) orchards replaced the traditional vineyards. After World War II, the chemical industry moved into the Fricktal offering many new jobs.

Geography
Magden has an area,, of 11.01 km2. Of this area, 5.19 km2 or 47.1% is used for agricultural purposes, while 4.61 km2 or 41.9% is forested. Of the rest of the land, 1.21 km2 or 11.0% is settled (buildings or roads), 0.02 km2 or 0.2% is either rivers or lakes.

Of the built up area, housing and buildings made up 6.8% and transportation infrastructure made up 2.9%. Out of the forested land, 40.5% of the total land area is heavily forested and 1.4% is covered with orchards or small clusters of trees. Of the agricultural land, 18.3% is used for growing crops and 23.1% is pastures, while 5.7% is used for orchards or vine crops. All the water in the municipality is in rivers and streams.

The municipality is located in the Rheinfelden district, in the Fricktal. It consists of the haufendorf village (an irregular, unplanned and quite closely packed village, built around a central square) of Magden and the hamlets of Igligerhof and Deschlikon.

Coat of arms
The blazon of the municipal coat of arms is Argent an Apple Tree Vert fructed Gules between two Vine Trees proper staked all issuant from a base of the second. The two grapevines commemorate the finding of the remains of old Roman vineyards in the village.

Demographics
Magden has a population of. , 12.5% of the population are foreign nationals. Over the last 10 years (1997–2007) the population has changed at a rate of 18.4%. Most of the population speaks German (92.9%), with French being second most common ( 1.5%) and English being third ( 1.4%).

The age distribution,, in Magden is; 367 children or 10.4% of the population are between 0 and 9 years old and 473 teenagers or 13.5% are between 10 and 19. Of the adult population, 314 people or 8.9% of the population are between 20 and 29 years old. 421 people or 12.0% are between 30 and 39, 642 people or 18.3% are between 40 and 49, and 473 people or 13.5% are between 50 and 59. The senior population distribution is 453 people or 12.9% of the population are between 60 and 69 years old, 258 people or 7.3% are between 70 and 79, there are 97 people or 2.8% who are between 80 and 89, and there are 15 people or 0.4% who are 90 and older.

the average number of residents per living room was 0.55 which is about equal to the cantonal average of 0.57 per room. In this case, a room is defined as space of a housing unit of at least 4 m2 as normal bedrooms, dining rooms, living rooms, kitchens and habitable cellars and attics. About 71.8% of the total households were owner occupied, or in other words did not pay rent (though they may have a mortgage or a rent-to-own agreement).

, there were 68 homes with 1 or 2 persons in the household, 494 homes with 3 or 4 persons in the household, and 588 homes with 5 or more persons in the household. , there were 1,168 private households (homes and apartments) in the municipality, and an average of 2.6 persons per household. there were 894 single family homes (or 63.1% of the total) out of a total of 1,416 homes and apartments. There were a total of 7 empty apartments for a 0.5% vacancy rate. , the construction rate of new housing units was 13.2 new units per 1000 residents.

In the 2007 federal election the most popular party was the SVP which received 30.7% of the vote. The next three most popular parties were the SP (25.4%), the FDP (14.5%) and the CVP (13.9%).

The historical population is given in the following table:

Heritage sites of national significance
The paleolithic/neolithic settlement at Strick is listed as a Swiss heritage site of national significance.

Economy
, Magden had an unemployment rate of 1.39%. , there were 78 people employed in the primary economic sector and about 23 businesses involved in this sector. 190 people are employed in the secondary sector and there are 34 businesses in this sector. 318 people are employed in the tertiary sector, with 72 businesses in this sector.

there were 1,481 workers who lived in the municipality. Of these, 1,169 or about 78.9% of the residents worked outside Magden while 232 people commuted into the municipality for work. There were a total of 544 jobs (of at least 6 hours per week) in the municipality. Of the working population, 19.2% used public transportation to get to work, and 54.1% used a private car.

Religion
From the, 837 or 27.5% were Roman Catholic, while 1,219 or 40.1% belonged to the Swiss Reformed Church. Of the rest of the population, there were 393 individuals (or about 12.91% of the population) who belonged to the Christian Catholic faith.

Education
In Magden about 85.4% of the population (between age 25-64) have completed either non-mandatory upper secondary education or additional higher education (either university or a Fachhochschule). Of the school age population, there are 281 students attending primary school, there are 125 students attending secondary school in the municipality.

Magden is home to the Mediathek Magden library. The library has 10,025 books or other media, and loaned out 32,055 items in the same year. It was open a total of 184 days with average of 9 hours per week during that year.

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Programming language
'Scripting' languages are labeled 'scripting' by what they are used for, not by their capabilities or limitations. This is a programming language article, and needs information on what paradigms VBScript supports, where it draws its roots from, etc. See [/Python_(programming_language)] for an example of paradigm description. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.205.223.34 (talk) 11:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

number of small issues
There's a number of small issues with this entry that I'm not going to attempt to fix right now: Mark Hurd 02:44, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * The last VBScript version is more recent that VB6, so it contains a couple of features not in VB6, but the significant ones are in VB.NET -- specifically I'm thinking of multiple classes in one file.
 * IE doesn't implement VBScript or JavaScript -- both of these are supported (hosted) like add-ins -- there could be (are?) other scripting languages supported.
 * VBScript and JavaScript, when hosted by IE, can produce stand-alone programs, using .hta files.

 * "there could be (are?) other scripting languages supported." <- Indeed, IE can host any Active Scripting engine, available engines working in IE includes RubyScript, PerlScript, Python, ForthScript, Object Rexx and PHPScript. PhMajerus 15:12, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

 * References to .hta (HTML Applications) have been clarified in this article, and a revised article on HTA created. DonToto (talk) 19:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

 * I don't understand the comment "'If Visual Basic version isn't 6.0 or lower, you can also write it like this : MsgBox("Hello, World")" - VBScript syntax isn't dependent on the version of VB as it is a separate language. Perhaps that comment is best removed? YidaMala (talk) 18:57, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Recent Changes
I removed my comments from before about user education and the like here on the talk page. This talk page needs cleaned up, however. Also, I added back in the Criticism section nearly unedited (removed a useless line about "inherent insecurity" which was very POV) because I think some information about the .VBS extension being tied to one of the first major worms of the 90s is warranted. Ultimately ILOVEYOU was the start of "user education" and training that has become the mantra of "do not open unsolicited email" today. It's important to note what language such a worm was coded in and give VBS the proper criticism.

Visual Basic for Windows CE
VBScript has also been used as the foundation to provide a Visual Basic application environment on Windows CE (Pocket PC, Palm-size PC, Handheld PC and embedded devices), often referred to as VBCE. In this environment, a desktop IDE similar to the classic Visual Basic IDE is used to create VBScript files and VB forms. The project get packaged in a single .vb archive, which is loaded on the device by pvbload.exe. Windows CE Toolkit for Visual Basic 5 and Windows CE Toolkit for Visual Basic 6 added this environment to the classic Visual Basic IDE, replaced later by a standalone product called eMbedded Visual Basic 3.0. This runtime environment loads the standard VBScript engine and feeds it with the script files contained in the .vb archive, loads the forms definitions and expose them as COM Automation objects to the script. This environment, enhanced with ADO/CE and other ActiveX controls, provide an experience similar to Visual Basic on the desktop. Interpreting the code using the VBScript engine, this had the advantage of being CPU-idenpendant, which was a good thing with the different processor architectures supported by Windows CE. The second version of the VBCE environment, supported by eMbedded Visual Basic 3.0, included support to invoke API functions from VBScript. This environment is now replaced by VB.NET and the .NET Compact Framework. PhMajerus 14:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Constants
The main article now includes a list of values for MsgBox, but the complete list is useless, as it's only a small set of values that gets combined together. Note VBScript includes constants for all these values, making them much easier to remember.

MsgBox
Buttons: vbOKOnly = 0, vbOKCancel = 1, vbAbortRetryIgnore = 2, vbYesNoCancel = 3, vbYesNo = 4, vbRetryCancel = 5. Icons: vbCritical = 16, vbQuestion = 32, vbExclamation = 48, vbInformation = 64. Flags: vbDefaultButton1 = 0, vbDefaultButton2 = 256, vbDefaultButton3 = 512, vbDefaultButton3 = 512, vbApplicationModal = 0, vbSystemModal = 4096 (vbDefaultButton* defines which button is the default button). Return values: vbOK = 1, vbCancel = 2, vbAbort = 3, vbRetry = 4, vbIgnore = 5, vbYes = 6, vbNo = 7. Buttons, icons and flags can be combined to get the desired buttons and icons on the MsgBox (using the Or operator). As these values shows, the first button is the default if no other is specified (vbDefaultButton1 = 0) and the message box is application modal (vbApplicationModal = 0). MsgBox returns the value corresponding to the selected button.

Colors
RGB Colors: vbBlack = &h00, vbRed = &hFF, vbGreen = &hFF00, vbYellow = &hFFFF, vbBlue = &hFF0000, vbMagenta = &hFF00FF, vbCyan = &hFFFF00, vbWhite = &hFFFFFF.

Strings
Strings: vbCr = Chr(13), VbCrLf = Chr(13)&Chr(10), vbFormFeed = Chr(12), vbLf = Chr(10), vbNewLine = Chr(13)&Chr(10) or Chr(10) (depending on platform), vbNullChar = Chr(0), vbNullString = null string, vbTab = Chr(9), vbVerticalTab = Chr(11).

Other
VBScript also includes constants for comparison modes, date and time values, date formats, error numbers, tristate values, and variant types. VBScript being an Active Scripting engine, the host can also add its own constants to the engine. Finally, Automation objects can contain their own constants in their type library, which some host let you import. For example, the Windows Script Host lets you import constants from type libraries using the element in WSF files, Windows Script components also use the element in WSC files, and Majerus.net Active Shell lets you import constants into an object using the GetConsts function.

PhMajerus 14:02, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Deleted Excessive Links
I deleted these external links per Wikipedia: External links --Starionwolf 04:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * VBScript lessons
 * W3Schools - Thorough VBScript Tutorial
 * Tizag - Introduction to VBScript
 * VBScript Debugger
 * ScriptingAnswers (VBScript community)
 * VBS Book adv.
 * DevGuru - VBScript quick reference
 * VBScript Tips & Trick

Removed unnecesary criticism
You can write a virus in any language. Should we have a criticism section for assembly because viruses have been written using that language?--71.232.157.145 (talk) 04:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

what about .VBS files, these can be executed which people may not know. most other languages however still come in .exe or .com file formats. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.214.45 (talk) 19:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

 * That may be a valid criticism.--71.232.157.145 (talk) 23:38, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Link Spam
In an attempt to combat link spam, I've added the substituted template {{subst:NoMoreLinks}} to the external links section as per Spam Christopher G Lewis (talk) 20:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Please propose any new links here before you add them to the main page Christopher G Lewis (talk) 05:46, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

other comments
there is a suggestion that VBScript & Windows Script Host be merged

I object to this - VBScript is a programming language whereas Windows Script Host is the platform on which it (& others) run Alanthehat (talk) 18:32, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * VBscript an JScript are part of the Windows Scripting Host redistributable package. There is one help document and a single installation file. The installation schedule for v5.7 currently looks like this, and has not changed since v1.0:

 Socrates2008 ( Talk )   07:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I am not in favour of merging since WSH as Alanthehat said is a platform, VBScript is just one supported language on WSH. WSH also supports JScript, Perl and many other scripting languages. As the name says, its the host/runtime for these languages. VBScript and JScript are MS supplied. Therefore, the two articles should definitely not be merged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.128.180.152 (talk) 13:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Well, I am also against them being merged. While they might be distributed together, they are not the same thing. In fact, one can happily exist without the other. VBScript, JScript, ActivePerl, ActivePython all are Active Scripting modules that can plug in to applications supporting the Active Scripting platform, of which Windows Script Host is just one instance, just as Internet Explorer is. You can strip out any of them and the rest will still continue working fine. A perfect analogy would be the .NET Framework, which also ship with C# and VB.NET compilers, but they are individual entities in their own rights. Similarly, Microsoft Visual Studio is the development platform for CLI languages - that doesn't make it lose its individual identity either. Same is the case here - just (manually) install WSH without VBScript or JScript but some other AS language, it will work as good. Similarly, use VBScript with some other host like IE or your custom AS client, there won't be any problem either. And, btw, I am not sure of VBScript, but IE8 did include a version of JScript separate from WSH. --soum talk 14:24, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed - Removing merge tag. Christopher G Lewis (talk) 17:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Viruses/Security
Might worth including a section on VBScript viruses, and how the scripting environment has been locked down since the first release of VBScript to try to address this. (e.g. kill bit on high risk ActiveX controls, IE zone security etc)  Socrates2008 ( Talk )   03:57, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Now vs Now
To avoid a WP:3RR issue: IMHO VBScript, and VB6, have an essential quality that brackets are not required for subroutine and function calls. It's one of the first major changes to VB.NET cited as a breaking change. As such I don't believe spurious 's should be included in the sample code. Mark Hurd (talk) 09:00, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Fair point. My understanding of best practice for function calls was to include brackets (even when not passing a parameter), as this helps distinguish them from sub procedures, where no brackets are used (unless, of course you use the Call function); and when writing sample code in an article, it's better to follow best practice rather than what you can get away with (unless the article is about that). However, on reflection, I realise that the Now function can accept no parameters anyway and references for the Now function shows it without a bracket (Now Function on MSDN). I have undone my reversion. Greyskinnedboy (talk) 23:10, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This is a question of style and readability. Without brackets, it's not as easy for an untrained eye to differentiate between functions and statements, so I take the opposite view.  Furthermore, the use of brackets to denote functions is common across many languages, so many people unfamiliar with the langugage will intuitively understand what this means.  However there's absolutely no need to revert another author over this.  Option Explicit may be "spurious" too, but adds considerable value in improving code quality.   Socrates2008 ( Talk )   22:28, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, although I felt it was right for the code to use just, although I didn't revert the change because of the consistency, I disliked the dropping of  in the commentary. Mark Hurd (talk) 02:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * For anyone who doesn't understand, it would look a bit odd having the comments say something different to the code, it's better for it to be consistent. From your and others' responses here, though, it looks like we might be getting toward consensus for brining back the in the code and comments. After all, Option Explicit isn't needed but we think it's good to show it for best practice. Greyskinnedboy (talk) 05:29, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Content on HTML Applications
I propose to move the details about an HTML Application to the linked article on this topic. I am referring to the following sentences:

mshta.exe is a 'Trusted Application Environment' provided by Internet Explorer. The 'Trusted Application Environment' implies that HTAs do not suffer the restrictions applied to applications running in the web or intranet zone, such as the inablity to access local files or network paths. Although HTAs run in this 'trusted' environment, querying Active Directory can be subject to Internet Explorer Zone logic and associated error messages. These sentences are good content but seem to me more applicable to 'HTML Applications' than to 'VBScript' per se. (Since I am new to this, I am making a proposal first, thereby putting more weight on the Wikipedia principle of civility than on the principle of being bold.) DonToto (talk) 21:36, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

 * I did the above. DonToto (talk) 19:38, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

List of File Extensions
Couldn't .hta be included in the list of file extensions used with VBScript, seeing as .htm and .html are included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DonToto (talk • contribs) 21:37, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I added .hta to list. DonToto (talk) 19:29, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

May 2010 – Current quality rating
I have been working away (adding, editing, re-arranging) this article to try and improve the quality rating. Note that all the "original" content is still there in one form or another. Previous comments on this discussion page were / are extremely helpful. Have included the info, e.g. notes on constants (but no list), examples of VBScript best practice (to give a taste of the language) following suggested conventions re brackets, etc. More work contemplated - add one or two graphics, add back a few references, add 2 examples on relation to VBA and accessing DOM, mention class support in language section, and a few other bits. Any suggestions for what to add? Did VBScript really influence PowerShell from a linguistic / syntactic point of view? I have looked up a few users but not sure if anyone else actively looking at this page. Will shortly submit this page for re-assessment under WikiProject Computing and WikiProject Microsoft Windows. DonToto (talk) 17:50, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

mç.jkm n:ljknı — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.229.54.15 (talk) 14:51, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

May 2014 - Version History
It appears there have been subsequent versions up to at least 5.8, as documented by Microsoft themselves: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/4y5y7bh5%28v=vs.84%29.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.142.118 (talk) 12:06, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Debugging in Visual Studio
please see http://krestenm.blogspot.gr/2007/12/vbscript-projects-in-visual-studio2.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.92.212.76 (talk) 12:25, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Edit Plan
1. In the article, VBScript is named as "Visual Basic Scripting Edition". The full name of VBScript should be "Microsoft® Visual Basic® Scripting Edition". 2. I think the name of this lead section :VBScript functionality not available in VB 6.0, makes user confuse. I suggest “VBScript functionalities”, the description section said these functionalities is not available in VB 6.0. 3. More information of the latest version VBScript. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skang7 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Baluchi Baluchi state
blasts big DX

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