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Talk:Richard Mellon Scaife

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I worked desperately to maintain NPOV throughout this article, and stated only facts provided in reputable publications; however, I suspect it will become a popular target for vandalism, mostly from the left.(Choster 23:10, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC))

For some reason, people continue to scribble "facts" about Scaife that are little more than Internet rumors, with what seems to me little basis in fact. A "fact" is raised, only to be somewhat disregarded. Much of it seems libelous, and the sources cited by the authors are less than mainstream publications.

 * Claims from LaRouche sources such as EIR always need to be double-checked. Scaife did not fund Dennis King. This is unsubstantiated. King has denied it. Deleted. The so-called "Quinde" affidavit is largely unverified claims by a LaRouchite, and anything from it needs to be double-checked. It was never tested in court. The Namebase link contained third-hand hearsay and innuendo based on the already dubious Quinde affidavit. Link deleted. The link to LaRouche's EIR should be sufficient, although I personally think all links on Wikipedia to LaRouche articles should note their frequent lack of reliabilty as a source of information.  As a leftist who has written a print encyclopedia entry on Scaife, I have to say this is otherwise an excellent job.  Sorting the facts from rumors and smears about Scaife must have been quite a task. I think the facts speak for themselves.--Cberlet 22:52, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi Chip, following the ArbCom ruling against Herschelkrustofsky, LaRouche material (claims, links, or references to LaRouche) is not allowed to be inserted into any article that is not "closely related" to Lyndon LaRouche, and any editor finding such material may delete it. SlimVirgin 23:44, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)

 * Weed Harper has posted another LaRouchite claim that is not verified. Facts matter. Supposition, rumor, and suspicion are not fact. There is no evidence that Scaife ever funded King. The charge originates with the LaRouchites. What is arguably fair is to say that King attended one meeting with Scaife at the home of John Train to talk about LaRouche. I used "facilitated" to try to attain a NPOV that the LaRouche supporters would accept. If they object to that, funding is just plain not proven, so I have stated the facts as documented.  Now it just looks silly. I think it should just be deleted.  --Cberlet 16:33, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

In its present form, this article is fair enough. I am concerned, however, about some rumors which continue to be raised (i.e.-- Scaife was somehow involved in CIA espionage) that have long been denied both by him and the agency. There seems little independent confirmation of the intelligence work, although a bit of innuendo taints the "revelation."

 * There are only two mentions of the CIA, both rather restrained. How are they a problem? The article is not yet comprehensive on his political funding. A few foundations and causes are mentioned, but there's a lot of work to do in that direction.

 * I notice that you, user:147.72.93.199, have repeatedly added information about Clinton perhaps as if to offset Scaife's funding of the "Arkansas Project". Is the addition intended to show that Scaife was justified in doing so? Right now it comes off as almost a non-sequitor, ad hominem attack on Clinton. That may be why it has been removed again and again. (By comparison, we also wouldn't add a paragraph to an article on Khrushchev about Kennedy's womanizing in order to justify some KGB subterfuge.) Can you explain here why you think it is important to a biography on Scaife? Maybe we can find a way of incorporating it more logically. Finally, while anonymous edits are allowed, every editor is expected to sign his or her contributions to the Talk pages. Usernames are free. Cheers, -Willmcw 05:26, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Scaife funds lots of things.. what funds Scaife?
Anybody want to beef up the article with Scaife's sources of income? Where does his supposed billions come from? Is most of it inherited? It seems unlikely just the ownership of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review would allow him to be such a big philanthropist.

 * Heir to the Mellon family industrial/banking fortune. --Cberlet 13:43, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

It's unfair to attack a man's (allegedly) paid investigations and then not mention that the fruits of his (alleged) probes were proven to be true. It's not an ad hominem attack on Clinton to say that he later admitted, under oath, that he conducted several affairs with women, including one that nearly collapsed his presidency. To say otherwise is to be guilty of a myopia that has no place in journalism.

If you want to pretend that political machinations during the late 1990s never transpired, except because of some weird conspiracy by Richard Scaife, then you're not much of a journalist.

Let's pretend, for once, that the Clinton scandals were covered by some publications outside of Salon.com?

 * It's unfair to demand a debate and not post your username.

I didn't realize Wikipedia required usernames. Is this simply decorum, or a writ from the editors?
 * Wikipedia does not require usernames. However discussion on Talk pages require a signature at a minimum. You are welcome to contribute, but please follow Wiki norms. Sign your posts on talk pages Thanks, -Willmcw 00:51, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Most of the allegations about Clinton funded by Scaife were not proven to be true. Not Whitewater. Not Mena. Not Foster. --Cberlet 19:15, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

But the allegations of sexual misconduct were most certainly "proved," by Clinton himself. Clinton admitted under oath to a series of extramarital affairs while governor of Arkansas and president of the United States. The scandal of one affair in Arkansas led to Clinton's initial perjured testimony, which triggered the impeachment vote and, later, censor by Congress. He also lost the ability to practice law in his home state.

So, Scaife's (alleged) payments brought one salient fact about Clinton to the general public and nearly destroyed Clinton's presidency. Seems somewhat relevant to me.

Hillary Clinton wrote a book that touched on some of these notions too.

 * Right now, it sounds like you are saying "If Scaife funded it, and if the purpose was to find sexual dirt on Clinton, then the sexual dirt is relevent." You are saying the payments are alleged. The revelations certainly wouldn't be relevent if Scaife didn't make the payments. Do you believe that he  made those payments or not? Further, was the purpose of the Arkansas Project to find evidence of Clinton's sexual habits? If you can prove both of those, then the Clinton sexual dirt might be appropriate here. Looking forward to seeing your evidence. Cheers, -Willmcw 00:51, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

First, I would like to see some record that showed Scaife's funding directly led to the Arkansas Project. It seems to me that he founded conservative groups that, in turn, investigated Clinton's activities while governor of Arkansas. I'm not sure that it's a clear match of dollars to probes because these organizations did other things with his cash, too.

One of the targets of these investigations, however, did bear fruit. It was alleged that Clinton had engaged in a series of sexual affairs. That kicked off the Troopergate allegations that churned up a name, Paula Jones. Jones' civil suit required testimony from Bill Clinton, words that later were determined to be perjured by the Office of the Special Prosecutor, the grand jury convened to weigh Clinton's guilt or innocence, and the U.S. Congress.

He was not removed from office during the impeachment vote, but was censored for his perjured testimony by the Congress. Both the U.S. Supreme Court and the Arkansas Supreme Court determined that his perjured testimony affected his ability to practice law. He did not challenge these civil hearings.

Seems to me he (1) engaged in extramarital affairs, as alleged, and (2) lied to cover up those affairs. This is beyond dispute. If those were two of the various targets of the Arkansas Project, they were proven.

Comments from Main Article by 147.72.93.172
Here are some comments that user:147.72.93.172 made, which ought to have been posted to this talk page instead. While glibly worded and improperly posted, some potentially legitimate issues are raised by the editor. I am posting them here on that editor's behalf in case anyone would care to discuss them. posted by  -Willmcw 11:29, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Inconvenient facts, known to nearly all Pittsburghers but somehow mysterious to the editors of this "biography" -- Scaife is very active in numerous board meetings and charity events in California, Pennsylvania and Florida. But don't let a good, spooky image of the "extremely private and taciturn" Scaife get in the way of a good strawman! Instead, let's pull up a 1981 CJR story written by a columnist for The Nation to define the man.

The source was listed. It was a very large article by Marisol Bello, now of the Detroit Free Press. That's hardly a pro-Scaife outlet. A similar article in George also portrayed Scaife as hardly the scary monster of the far right this section seems to find him. I don't believe George is available online, but the article is available on Lexis-Nexis and other fee sources.

 * Find a source and this is worth mentioning.--Cberlet 14:02, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Re: theories of Scaife's interest in politics
 * None of these theories are sourced, so who cares how right they are? Mere speculation, of course, should rule in these instances.

 * Some of this appears in newspaper and magazine articles, I can try to dig them up.--Cberlet 14:02, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Re: "Scaife ...directed his attention against governor ... Clinton"
 * I don't see how Scaife "directed" anything against Clinton when he was a relatively unknown governor from Arkansas, vying with others for the Iowa primary. Only after he emerged as president did any sort of investigation into his past commence, unless there's sourcing to show otherwise (there isn't).

 * Text probably need rewording.--Cberlet 14:02, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Re:Hillary Clinton's reference to "vast right wing conspiracy"
 * Of course, the so-called "editors" of this piece wish to exclude the noisome fact that the president later testified under oath that he had, indeed, engaged in "sexual indiscretions" during his years in Washington. The editors don't wish to mention that a certain woman, most likely unknown to the vast majority of Americans but named Monica Lewinsky, had something of a fling with the man and led to his impeachment. No. Let's pretend this never happened.

 * Complicated by the fact that much of the material in the Scaife-funded articles--even about sexual misconduct--was never shown to be true, and one author retracted parts of his work. Best to leave it as is.--Cberlet 14:02, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Too bad Time, Newsweek, the NY Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, et al, don't believe in leaving "it as is." It seems as if Clinton's misconduct has been proven beyond any doubt, seeing as it led to impeachment, censor, the loss of his right to practice law in Arkansas and before the U.S. Supreme Court and a very lengthy grand jury report that finds him, indeed, admitting to affairs with, among others, a White House intern.

 * Re: buying up conservative books
 * So why is this fact mentioned if never proved? Well, alleging it to be so, for these editors, makes it thus.

 * Agnostic on this one.--Cberlet 14:02, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

It's unproven beyond internet rumors. I deleted it.

It seems to me bad cricket to raise an allegation that's completely speculative and unproven, such as "Scaife buys up books published by conservatives to boost their sales." This has never been proven, shows up on no tax forms or any other publicly available records and seems to be a figment of someone's imagination. Even when you tack on the disclaimer, the raising of the issue smears the man accused of it. It's sort of like saying, "Joe Smith was said to have beaten his wife, but it was never proven." Who said it? Why was it never proven? Why mention it unless you want to demean Smith or his wife? unsigned comments from 147.72.93.199

 * I agree. If there's no decent source it should be removed. Anyone wanting to re-add it should provide a reference. SlimVirgin 00:08, Jan 26, 2005 (UTC)

Hi 147.72.93.199, I just reverted your claim about him being booted out of Yale for breaking someone's leg. It's a good story, but we need a reference if you have one. Also, it would be good if you could get a user name: not obligatory of course, just nicer somehow. :-) SlimVirgin 00:15, Jan 27, 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi. I found it in two sources. One, previously cited, in the 1999 Washington Post story. It referenced a book on the Mellon family by Burton Hersh (aptly called "The Mellon Family").  I looked up the reference in the 1978 book and it was accurate. It's not really essential, but it's such a colorful anecdote I thought it would fit.

It's a good anecdote. Feel free to add it again, but it's best not to use the word "booted" unless you're quoting, in which case it needs quotation marks. At the end of the sentence, either link to the Post story again, or write the name of the book author and year of publication e.g. (Smith, 1979), then at the end of the article, under ==References== (create a references section if there isn't one), write out the name of the book, author, and publisher etc if you have that information. Just add what you've got and someone else can tidy up later. SlimVirgin 00:32, Jan 27, 2005 (UTC)

 * I tweaked some wording from the Washington Post 1999 story on the Arkansas Project and also deleted the reference to Scaife-funded investigations of Bill Clinton when he was the governor of Arkansas. There is no evidence the man had any interest in Clinton when he was a relatively unknown leader of a small southern state. The project began AFTER he was elected president. "147.72.93.199"

147, if you type 4 tildes ~ after your posts it will automatically give you your IP address and a timestamp. Or if you get a user name (they're free and anonymous), it will use that instead of your IP address, which gives you more privacy. SlimVirgin 10:37, Jan 28, 2005 (UTC)

Chronological order
This article had become disorganized, with "giving" spread into two separated sections and biographical details mixed. I hope I've straightened it out by placing all the giving in one section at the end (though I'm not sure about the section title. I'm sure some of it came from his own pocket). I haven't deleted anything, and only copy-edited slightly. Cheers -Willmcw 07:50, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Trib Review business operations
How relevent are the business operatoins of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review to this article? Anon user:147.72.93.172 added the latest circulation numbers, and I added the recent consolidation. But Anon deleted the consolidation info. It seems just as relevent as the circulation numbers. The overall relevence, which might be pinned down further, is that I am not aware of any other business that Scaife is involved in. -Willmcw 20:19, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

PS - Is it irrelevent to note that the company is laying off workers? -Willmcw 22:12, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * It becomes irrelevent when there have been no reported layoffs, only speculation that there will be, and your footnote no longer exists as a source. Of the remaining references, the only one is a story by the Tribune-Review, which doesn't announce layoffs.

 * But if you say there are layoffs, I'm sure there are, unless there aren't.

Dear "Anon": I'm sure you would know first if there are any layoffs. Maybe the President of the Trib-Review company lied. But he said there would be layoffs or, as he called them in the Trib-Review article, "staff reductions". Do you have any verifiable evidence that Harrell is wrong or a liar? If so, please post it. Otherwise, the preponderance of evidence is that the company has announced that there will be layoffs. (PS, please sign your talk page articles by typing four tildes "~" at the end. Thanks). -Willmcw 20:46, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The exact line from the story:

The changes most likely will involve a yet-to-be determined number of staff reductions, said Harrell

The key phrase, to me, is "yet to be determined." So far, there is no public record that there have, in fact, been reductions. Certainly you are erroneous to point to "staff reductions" in all the operations you listed because the Tribune-Review officer did not say where the reductions, if any, would come. One would imagine in such a competitive media market at Pittsburgh there would be some mention (any?) of "layoffs" or "staff reductions" if they had happened.

It appears as if they have not. Perhaps the company changed its mind. Or perhaps it transferred them to other operations or other Scaife-directed corporate activities. Unfortunately, the footnotes you provide do not show if there are any reductions of any kind.

 * Do your homework.
 * Shakeup at the Tribune-Review; layoffs expected at all newspapers
 * "They told us point-blank that there would be layoffs," said one employee at the Greensburg Tribune-Review who, like others, asked not to be identified. Workers at all of the affected papers said they were told the layoffs would hit every one of the company's daily publications, including Pittsburgh.
 * "Everyone's worried and preparing their resumes," said one employee at the Valley News Dispatch.
 * Earlier this week, advertising director Andrea Mroz was let go, as was Kraig Cawley, the general manager of the Valley News Dispatch.
 * Lou Ottey, who was fired as circulation manager for the Greensburg paper last week, said a general downturn in newspaper circulation compounded problems because daily newspapers in Connellsville, Monessen and Kittanning included delivery of the Sunday Tribune-Review, and when those papers lost circulation, the Tribune-Review's Sunday figures were also hit.
 * Last night, in Greensburg, one mid-level editor complained bitterly about the planned reductions in staff. "For years we financed their shenanigans in Pittsburgh and now they've turned on us," he said.
 * Do you still insist layoffs are not planned? Two managers have already been "reduced". (PS. please sign your comments) -Willmcw 22:20, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Let me get this straight. The competition published a piece written by an employee let go by the Tribune-Review years ago. The work, using anonymous quotes from "one employee" or "one mid-level editor," insists there will be "layoffs" at "everyone of the daily publications." The newspaper's editors, however, say this will not happen and, more than a month later, there are no reports, even from the competition, that such a thing transpired.

How do we know the newspaper "reduced" two managers, but hired, say, twenty new employees? We don't.

NVOA would imply that one should use "stories" framing an economic competitor with great care, especially work from a former employee.

 * Boy, you certainly do know a lot about the Pittsburgh newspaper market. It's a good thing we have you along. When did Trib-Review editors say that there would be no layoffs? Would editors, rather than business managers, be in a position to say? No, we don't know if they hired twenty more, but if you find a verifiable source saying that they did then we can include that info. Do we have any proof that the writer was a former employee? How carefully should we scrutinize the contributions and opinions of past and present employees of the Trib-Review? Are they automatically suspect? Thanks, -Willmcw 21:55, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ideology
While there is evidence that Sciafe has conservative, right wing, and libertarian views, they are not clearly defined (according to the conventional uses of the terms) nor are they fixed. For those reasons it might be better to avoid labelling him with one or another political epithet as his primary description. Later in the article we discuss his politics in some detail. -Willmcw 21:24, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree. This seems to be a better and more accurate approach.--Cberlet 12:33, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

A Real Jerk
This Scaife guy is one of the most dispicable human beings on the face of the earth. I wish I could smack him in the mouth after what he called that woman. Jack Cox 20:52, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

A Real HATCHET JOB
Well, wouldn't that be what he "allegedly" called the woman? There doesn't seem to be any tape of the event and no outside corroboration it actually happened, except from the words of a freelance reporter who never really became a reporter.

Anyway, it's equally odd to find "Online Journal" and the Pittsburgh City Paper used to debunk narratives portrayed by respected mainstream publications, such as the Washington Post.

Although a supporter of the open source effort to produce an encyclopedia, methinks Wiki would be taken more seriously if contributors didn't so badly botch pieces about the various media (see CBS 60 Minutes) or the biographies of well known publishers.

Are there no "editors" in Wikipedia to police these sorts of things? Why isn't a crude, poorly written opinion piece by someone named "Chris Potter" (does he really exist?) at a tiny partisan press not discounted, when different versions of the same events from important news outlets carry the same weight?

Shouldn't there be a ranking of sources used to construct an article? I would imagine a free, largely unread effort by some hack in Pittsburgh wouldn't have the substance of WAPO. But what do I know?

 * This appears to be a relatively old comment about something no longer in the article, but I wanted to make a comment and say, yes, there really is a Chris Potter, and yes, he really does work for a legitimate newspaper called the Pittsburgh City Paper. Thanks. NickBurns 14:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Trying to Edit Fairly
In response to the above-mentioned problems with this article, I ventured in here to try to make some alterations. Some of the writing was clumsy, so I shored that up.

I also took out the questionable business about Scaife somehow attempting to murder his brother-in-law, claims that do not appear in the LA Times, Washington Post, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette or any other mainstream publication I could find, either online or offline.

Other sources without those papers' reputation, such as  or the Pittsburgh City Paper were removed. Others can discuss this decision, but the poster from the previous comment made IMHO acceptable claims of NPOV that should be investigated.

New to This
Wow. It's always ironic for those of us who actually are experts on important subjects to come into Wikipedia and see pure crap. I'll make a few points: His name is not "Mellon Scaife." It's just "Scaife." He doesn't use "Mellon" as a working title for obvious reasons mentioned in this effort.

Second, doesn't anyone know who Rothmeyer is? Last time I checked, she was an associate editor at The Nation. Shouldn't the compilers of this page at least take that into consideration when producing this bio? Or does source material matter?

True, it's a source that can be verified, but that doesn't make the source accurate or trustworthy. The Nation is a wonderful publication, but it's a self-described partisan press. I also would be careful of using, say, the Weekly Standard to dig up dirt on someone like Ted Kennedy.

An uncorroborated version of an account that has been publicly challenged should not be given carte blanche authenticity. Who is this Gamaliel and why should we assume he knows anything about Scaife, publishing or American politics? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.5.119.226 (talk • contribs)

The same reason we assume you do. See Assume good faith. Gamaliel 18:32, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Unbalanced biography
The recent addition of a news item about Ritchie Scaife is sourced and verifiable, but it highlights the fact that the subject's marriages are not clearly described. Could we consolidate his personal life into one section and check to see that it's comprehensive? We shouldn't suddenly introduce our readers to a wife in this manner, peeking in the windows. Let's nail down the weddings, divorces, children, and other hard facts, and present them clearly. As with many of our older subjects, this biography could become an obit overnight. With a person this prominent we should be able to get the basics right. -Willmcw 09:32, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I am the person who added the marriage info, and I agree. I would like to research this more and additional info. Also, two small things: as noted in the article, Mr. Scaife placed the call personally. The previous editor's wording made it appear as though someone else did. And, I added more specifics on where Scaife's home is, only to indicate that he owns multiple homes in the Pittsburgh metro area. I reverted these two things for clarity.InsertName

"As with many of our older subjects, this biography could become an obit overnight."

Why is that? It's riddled with mistakes, innuendo and falsehoods. It's footnoted haphazardly, using sources of dubious repute. It's been humorous watching this section develop, almost as a test-case for how not to write an encyclopedic entry.

Oddly enough, "Willmcw" already has read the aforementioned paragraph several times, but has yet to realize that "peaking" is the wrong verb. I can't imagine any real journal using this flotsam as an "obit."

Wikipedia wants to charge ad space for this crap? 80.76.250.139

 * Looks like someone forgot to sign his screed. What are the chances this is a registered user going anon? InsertName 20:40, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

 * If you don't think it's good enough, then pitch in and give a hand. Cheers, -Willmcw 08:47, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Money
I removed this blockquote: I removed it did not belong in the intro, because we should summarize the info rather than simply quoting it, and because it is not clear about who is making the gifts- only Scaife's gifts to charities are deductible, not the gifts by the charities. The information on his fortune and trusts should all be handled in one place. -Will Beback 23:07, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Where Scaife's Money Came From
 * : Richard Mellon Scaife's philanthropy has come from family trusts set up by his mother, four foundations and his own checkbook. The trusts expired in the 1980s. The tax law required Scaife to become a philanthropist. The foundations he inherited had to give away 5 percent of their assets every year. He can deduct the amount of each gift he makes from his taxable income, which – given the billion dollars or so in his personal fortune – is presumably substantial."

Kangas junk
Revert attempts to embelish this incident. The guy was troubled. End of story. It has nothing to do with the subject of this article. skywriter 04:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I have to agree. It'd be like devoting space to Oswald in the bio of JFK, only in this case the two never even saw each other. The Kangas article can cover the incident in detail. -Will Beback 08:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Scaife
Please defend the revert of the sublime edits of the Richard Mellon Scaife article.

The he-said/she-said pissing match between Scaife and the reporter is meaningless without access to the four or five-part series in the Columbia Journalism Review, which put the encounter in perspective and which is no longer online-- and that was stated in the deletion, contrary to your claim that that part of the edit was not explained. The information about the reporter is flat out wrong, as she occasionally wrote more than 25 years ago for The Nation, and moved on to other publications. Why is that still there?

More specifically, what does the paragraph about that chance encounter tell us about the subject of the article that his life story, which I added awhile back, not tell us? His relationships with his family members are much more revealing about his character than a chance encounter with a reporter whose four or five-part series we can no longer read. But maybe then Wikipedia is trying to out-Enquirer the National Enquirer in the area of titilating readers by throwing the word "cunt" around. Great!

Explain exactly what using the nickname --Dick-- in the middle of the article accomplishes? Exactly why did you put that back in? Please point to other articles where the subjects of articles are not referred to strictly by their last name. Why the sudden informality?

My edits made sense. Yours did not. Perhaps you will explain in detail what you did. Skywriter 06:57, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Anecdotes are legitimate material in biographies. We should not limit ourselves to only dry summaries. Life is a drama. This particular case is well-known. It illustrates Scaife's personality. The fact that a website is no longer operating does not mean that the event no longer happened. On the other hand, I don't know that we need to repeat the exact expletive that Scaife used. I don't object to censoring it for the children and instead saying that he used a "crude epithet", or similar description. By all means it should be handled in an NPOV manner. I also agree that the use of "Dick" mid article is odd. I'll go take care of that. Cheers, -Will Beback 07:46, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I made some brief edits to make this "biography" a tad bit fair to the subject of it.

"Although Scaife rarely talks to reporters who don't work for him"

This is inane because the Wiki article actually links to three other news sources (Washington Post and two NY papers) that are not owned by Scaife. We know from the links on this very page that he talked to them AND George AND one of his own reporters. So, obviously, this non-POV statement was not only snide, but untrue.

Which means that in typical Wikipedia fashion it was allowed to remain for many months.

Also, a quick Internet search revealed that Marisol Bello is a, ahem, woman. So the "his boss" reference -- also snide -- was equally untrue.

Perhaps the previous editor lacks the proper objectivity to edit this encylopedic effort? He or she obviously doesn't appear particularly clever -- at least neither bright enough to realize that "Marisol" is a female title for many thousands of Latinas nor so intelligent as to realize that the links dispute the bias in the other slur.

A lot of the poor non-POV edits could have been avoided by simply questioning either the objectivity or the competence of a "Harvard Speak-Out" on the subject.

I also might suggest that Scaife's degree from the University of Pittsburgh includes an incorrect major. I would give you a hint, but the information likely can be googled.Bartleby D. Scrivner 20:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)Bartleby D. Scrivner

This also is unsupportable:

Scaife's stepson, Turner Westray Battle, was hired as an intern at George shortly after the interview.

The footnote says nothing of this alleged quid pro quo about hiring practices at the (erstwhile) George magazine. Bartleby D. Scrivner 14:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)Bartleby D. Scrivner

Gamaliel continues to make edits that are unsupported by either fact or source material. Some of the edits, as mentioned above, are clearly contradicted by evidence from credible sources in other parts of the encyclopedic entry, most especially the notion that Scaife rarely talks to reporters he does not hire.

Clearly, he has spoken to at least four major newspapers listed in the article and only once to one of his own (former) reporters.

One also wonders about the reasons listed for Scaife's interest in politics (liked to read newspapers? come on). It appears as if this is uninformed conjecture. There is no source material to justify its inclusion. Has some political analyst of some reputation said as much? Has Scaife admitted such?

It appears not. It only shows up here.

Also mystifying is the slur that the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review is a low-circulation paper that is "attempting" to circulate in Pittsburgh. ABC circulation reports, as cited in the linked article about the newspaper, show that it has nearly 250,000 subscribers, which is narrowly below the competition's figures.

I believe this article suffers from a relentless non-POV attitude throughout, and that this biased format only weakens Wikipedia's stature. Bartleby D. Scrivner

<---Note to Bartleby D. Scrivner. Please stop filling up this page with pompous twaddle. Try to raise issues using plain English in a way that allows us to find a constructive solution. Your lectures are merely annoying as waste hard drive storage space.--Cberlet 02:09, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, Cberlet, I didn't realize that criticism of a poor effort -- including prose that's virtually illiterate in the main article -- was tantamount to "pompous twaddle."

From a professional standpoint, here are some glaring problems with the wiki effort to comprise the sum of a man's life:

1. It's badly written. The piecemeal approach to creating this encyclopedic entry has created a largely unreadable, herky-jerky summation of the life of a man. This sort of pitiful writing about a man who owns newspapers would be considered tragic if it weren't so hilarious.

A good example might be the inclusion of the factoid that he owns 7.2% of NewsMax. First, it's unsourced. Second, it's meaningless. The Wikipedia contributors determined that it was more important that a man owns a bare minority of a company (if that's true; it's unsourced) as the fact that he reportedly controls $1.2 billion in assets.

That sort of editorial decision is hilarious. Dilettantes at work, it seems.

2. It's riddled with non-POV assertions and bad guesswork, unsubstantiated with meaningful sourcing. Let's just say that the Washington Post and some of the other periodicals listed are considered good sources for factual material. A Harvard Speakout project is not.

Some of the more glaring problems include --

"He was expelled from Yale University in the aftermath of a drunken party"  Prove it with a source. I know some of them, but they're not online. A lazy researcher resorts only to non-POV google searches, which is what we have here.

"Scaife was affected by the family's poor relationship with the Mellon family, and came to despise the Mellon family name." Needs sourcing.

"Still, he inherited a good part of the Mellon fortune when his mother died." How much is a "good part?" Find a source.

"Charitable foundations are required to disburse at least 5% of their assets annually, forcing Scaife to become a philanthropist." But above we learned that Scaife's mother encouraged him to become active in philanthropy. Wherefore this compulsion to give away money? From the shift in the tax laws? Or because he already had been doing it, or came from a family that did it? The Scaife charities managed to spend enough charitable money finding a cure for polio, so perhaps the 501(c) regulations might have had little to do with the push to give. Or, most likely, it's a combination of the two. Regardless, this is so poorly sourced and badly written, one can't make a decision about the issue.

"The inherited Mellon fortune allowed Scaife to pursue his political activism." But in other parts of the encyclopedic entry, it's suggested that he was involved in politics BEFORE his father and mother passed away. He obviously was pursuing "political activism" before they died and left him a vast fortune. This seems like non-POV conjecture, and it's poorly phrased anyway.

"While his mother preferred to give to the arts, libraries and population control projects, her son gave heavily to anti-communist organizations." But some of the source material from journals of some reputation listed here indicate that he continued to give "heavily" to non-political causes. In fact, that might comprise the vast bulk of his giving, not political donations. Have PBS, Planned Parenthood and Goodwill Industries become tools of the vast right-wing conspiracy? It seems the entry can't even decide which is which. Perhaps it would be better to simply drop the non-POV language.

"while Cordelia supported her own charities, including Planned Parenthood" But the entry says he continued to support Planned Parenthood? Indeed, some of the national journals listed here repeat this fact. Poorly written, and unsourced as is.

"Scaife's interest in politics was influenced by four factors." But this is mere conjecture. Do we have an interview wherein he says as much? Or the work of a political analyst who will say what drove Scaife to become interested in conservative thought? Some of this seems absurd -- He was fond of newspapers as a child? His father's alleged service in the OSS? Come on. He might invest in newspapers as an adult because of a childhood fondness for the written word; he might donate to anti-communist causes because of some nostalgia for his father's deeds in WWII. But it seems implausible to suggest that he embarked on a jihad against the Left because he liked Dear Abby and his father, supposedly, was a spy.

Cheap and lazy and, ultimately, meaningless conjecture. Find some sourcing that would support it or get rid of it.

"In 1969 [citation needed], he purchased " If we can't even name the year he bought a newspaper that would grow to become one of the nation's 50 largest dailies, maybe we should just bag it?

"With Scaife as publisher, the small circulation newspaper was the chief packager of editorials and news columns"

Last time I checked, 200,000+ seems like a large number of subscribers. Was it small then? What was its circulation? And judging from related entries in the encyclopedia, it's not even clear that the Greensburg Tribune-Review was the primary chronicle of anti-Clinton stories. The Washington Post doesn't even contend that Scaife was the man behind the Arkansas Project, but the entries here seem to suggest that he was. At best, these insinuations are feckless misrepresenations. At worst, they're intentional lies. Either way, they're unworthy of Wiki.

"wrote that he responded by calling her a "fucking Communist cunt" and telling her to "get out of here."" Am I alone in wondering what the import of this is? An obscure, untaped event without witnesses is said to have happened 25 years ago -- an event much disputed by the subject of the story -- is included here, it seems, only because it seems so salacious. It adds nothing to our understanding of the man, just as the original CJR article suffers from a non-POV bias. It's ironic that someone mustered the gumption to suggest that there should be an entry for Karen Rothmeyer, about as minor a figure one can find in American journalism. In the corpus of her work, one finds few stories that do NOT harp on Dick Scaife, her bete noire. Did she put this chestnut into the encyclopedic entry in order to revive a career that's best considered moribund?

"In 1990 Scaife quit drinking alcohol." No source. If you're going to accuse someone of being an alcoholic, albeit a recovering one, you need a source of some reputation.

"Reporter Marisol Bello depicted his boss" Sigh. I've already pointed out that "Marisol" is a woman's name. I corrected the obvious error, and it was reverted by one of the savants who run Wikipedia. Amateurs! If you don't realize that one of the most popular names in the Latin languages might be female, then don't start non-POV screeds by slurring her work. She's a reporter for the Detroit Free-Press, one of the nation's most respected daily newspapers. Give her the respect she's due by not suggesting that she wrote a portrayal of her "boss" because of some cash compulsion.

"Scaife, however, was closely involved in his empire's coverage" Non-POV use of "empire." What "empire?" Has this been properly sourced? How closely involved? None of the sources listed in the article, expect some conjecture from a Harvard Speakout diatribe, makes the case. In fact, the Washington Post and others mentioned here speak to the opposite.

"and in which Paula Jones' accusations of sexual harassment against Clinton were first widely publicized." Drudge might disagree, as would CNN, the Washington Post, et al. They ran stories following the infamous Drudge report while it was online.

"gave root to hyperbolic conspiracist notions" "Hyperbolic" is non-POV.

"Shaheen subpoenaed Scaife, who testified before a federal grand jury in the matter." What did he say under oath? Did he confirm or deny the non-POV version of what transpired printed above? Where's the sourcing?

"President Clinton later admitted to sexual indiscretions, but the other allegations that came out of the Arkansas Project were never proven." Wasn't the allegation that he lied under oath also "proven," or did I miss something? I thought the drive for the stories wasn't that Clinton engaged in sexual misconduct, but that he displayed a pattern of covering up the allegations, to the point of perjuring himself? Just as one would be fair to Bill Clinton, one should try to be fair to Dick Scaife, who seems to have had little influence on all of this aside from giving money to organizations that did have a bone to pick with the president.

"The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review continues to challenge the Post-Gazette in the Pittsburgh media market." Shouldn't this be moved to the breakoff entry on the Tribune-Review? It seems out of place here.

"Scaife became a major, early supporter of the Heritage Foundation" How much is major? Where is the sourcing? That would be interesting to know, in a concrete, factual way. It's phrased too clumsily now.

"Pittsburgh World Affairs Council" Is that really a "conservative" or "libertarian" clique? I checked out the reporting on it and it seems to be mostly a luncheon group, mainly for school children, in Pittsburgh. It's also 75 years old. Certainly it's existence pre-dates much of the debate over Bill Clinton, post-war Communism and Ken Starr. It's this sort of fact-challenged writing that damns this entry.

The entire effort needs a complete, non-POV rewrite. Bartleby D. Scrivner 21:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)Bartleby D. Scrivner

This weekend, I plan to rewrite this entire biography. My lodestar shall be the guidelines available at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons

It is very sad to note that in this case the points raised in the Biographies guidelines have not been followed. Rather than lay blame for these excesses, it is best to move on and try to be as fair to the subject as possible, even if one does not personally like his politics. That's what "neutral POV" should express.Bartleby D. Scrivner 17:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)Bartleby D. Scrivner

Issues
This entry on Richard Mellon Scaife easily should prove one of the worst examples of "biography" found in Wikipedia:

It suffers from non-POV descriptions and "facts" throughout.
 * Substantial/major editing is needed.
 * Most material for a complete article needs to be added, and it certainly exists, in fair, objective prose, in the public domain.
 * This article isn't even good enough for a cleanup tag: it still needs to be built.
 * Some errors are so blatant as to be laughable. For example, several "editors" have taken a verbal slap at Marisol Bello, a reporter for the Detroit Free-Press.  The postings are so devoid of fact that they refer to Bello as a man ("Marisol" is a common, female name) and claim her "boss" is Scaife.
 * In fact, her "boss" is the Detroit Free-Press.
 * The article itself in nearly complete devoid of fact throughout, relying mostly on Google searches of partisan websites and very lightly on respected publications such as the Washington Post or Newsweek.
 * Wiki's "bosses" should get this right. There's probably enough here that's libelous or simply false to trigger an immediate rewrite. Lionel of Pittsburgh (talk) 23:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Revisions
I made some revisions to this article - I tried not to REMOVE much comment unless it looked decidedly POV.

Tried to balance negatives and positives. I'm not a conservative, and I'm not a big fan of this guy, but for any bio we need NPOV, verifiable info, etc. And I think the best bios balance any criticism of a subject with a list of their accomplishments.

I also added a little bit of lead information re: the paper, just to show a bit of the timeline of how it grew. I grew up in Greensburg, and my parents had the original Tribune-Review delivered to the door every day. It was a sleepy little paper, the kind where "editing" an article just meant you cut it off where you ran out of space. 1992 was the year of the big Pittsburgh paper strikes...but ironically, it was also the year, of course, that Clinton was elected.

I think the guy's kinda fascinating, actually. And I know people who have worked for him that have had some very fascinating things to say about him. NickBurns 16:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

New Washington Post article on Scaife and his divorce proceedings
I thought this article has a lot of information on Scaife if anyone wants to add some of it to the article.  Remember 13:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Lack of neutrality
I just stumbled upon this article and was surprised by its partisan tone. I'm tagging it because I believe that it is not written in a properly neutral fashion under WP:NPOV. I removed a passage that I believe clearly violates WP:UNDUE. More attention needs to be paid to achieving a neutral and encyclopedic tone in writing this.--Samiharris 20:46, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * "Partisan tone" is clearly in the eye of the beholder. There are bits that are suspect (and the one you removed was overt), but overall it's a fairly balanced article. rone 00:01, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The "Politics and philanthtropy" section is what concerned me. I could not find an NPOV section just to cover that section. Let me look again in the templates area.--Samiharris 14:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Divorce Proceedings Opened
The Pittsburgh Post Gazette has uncovered some accidentially unsealed documents from Scaife's divorce, and has posted them online. Are these appropriate materials to cite? Even though they are supposed to be secret, they have been published by a respected news organization. Is this similar to the Pentagon papers--that once they're out in the public they're fair game?   --RedShiftPA (talk) 02:09, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

References section
The references section is all mucked up. None of the articles listed are used for in-text citations. This does not comply with wikipedia standards. When in doubt, use the to cite things. --RedShiftPA (talk) 06:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

contacting Scaife
anyone have Richard's email address? i would like to email him without going through people who will never pass the letter on. i doubt i will get a reply or any hlep but, no harm in me trying =) thanks in advance, Alan Scaife KaiQom (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC).

BLP issues
I just removed half of a paragraph that wildly accused Scaife, and pretty much the rest of his family, of being alcoholics. The "source" mentioned none of this. Someone needs to go through this article for other BLP problems, as I suspect there are more.--A. Gorilla (talk) 04:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The information that he was expelled from Yale is sourced to an article which doesn't appear to be in a reliable publication. The author being "reliable" is not enough, per WP:BLPSPS.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 11:07, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Improper (slanted) categorization
Much of what is listed under 'philanthropy', namely monetary support for POLITICAL organizations, is not philanthropy - it is political activism. I think these two should be split into separate sections. The way the article is formatted now implies that rightist political organizations are by their nature philanthropic, which is a slanted and un-encyclopedic way of dealing with this. A simple move of his support for these political groups to a separate category would fix the problem. 62.238.249.71 (talk) 10:28, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Removed "Hillary Clinton" endorsement because he did not endorse Hillary Clinton...
Although the newspaper he previously founded endorsed Hillary Clinton in 2008, Scaife never did personally. More importantly, the endorsement was for the Democratic primary. At that time, many conservative organizations wanted to draw out the Barack Obama v. Hillary Clinton primary to increase inter-party tension and give the Republicans an edge in the general election. It seems someone added this in to make Hillary Clinton seem like she had a conservative backer when, in reality, he almost ended her husband's political career.Cat spasms (talk) 06:57, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

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Unintentionally hilarious
In 2005, Scaife was number 238 on the Forbes 400, with a personal fortune of $1.2 billion. By 2013, Scaife had dropped to number 371 on the listing, with a personal fortune of $1.4 billion.

I suggest the data point from 2005 be dropped from the lead, along with the cry-me-a-river "dropped" comparative that including this earlier data point seems to necessitate. — MaxEnt 19:40, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

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The company leased the right to use the .tv domain, giving the island nation of Tuvalu enough money to join the United Nations in 2000.

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Club América

Club de Fútbol América S.A. de C.V., commonly known as Club América, is a professional football club based in Mexico City. Nicknamed Las Águilas (The Eagles), it competes in Liga MX, the top tier of Mexican football. The club was founded in 1916, and since 1959 has been owned by mass media company Televisa. The team plays its home games at the Estadio Azteca, the largest stadium in Latin America and one of the largest in the world.

América is one of the founding members of the Primera División. The club has a long-standing rivalry with Guadalajara, as both are the most successful and most supported teams in the country and are among the seven clubs to have never been relegated. Matches between them are known as El Súper Clásico, considered to be the biggest rivalry in Mexico, and one of the biggest in the world. América also plays derbies against Cruz Azul and Club Universidad Nacional. Together the clubs make up the "Big Four" of Mexican football.

Club América have won more titles than any other team in Mexican football. Domestically, the club has won a record fifteen league titles, a record six Copa México titles, and a joint-record seven Campeón de Campeones cups. In international competitions, América has won ten FIFA recognized club trophies, the most for a club from CONCACAF, with a record seven CONCACAF Champions Cup/Champions League titles, one CONCACAF Giants Cup, and two Copa Interamericanas. The club also holds numerous distinctions, including topping the all-time league table in victories, points, and goals scored, most appearances in the liguilla (playoffs) stage, the most playoff final appearances (20) and second-most runner-up finishes, after Cruz Azul. It is one of only four clubs to win back-to-back league titles since the introduction of the liguilla format. In 2021, América was named by the International Federation of Football History & Statistics as the best North American club of the first decade (2001–2011) of the 21st century.

Founding
By 1916 football was already a popular sport in Mexico, particularly amongst college students in Mexico City. College students from Colegio Mascarones and Colegio Marista de la Perpetua formed two football teams with the names Récord and Colón. On 12 October 1916, the two squads decided to consolidate to make a more competitive squad. Many names were considered for this new squad, and team player Pedro "Cheto" Quintanilla suggested the name "América", since they had formed the team on Columbus Day (Día del descubrimiento de América). The players agreed and soon designed a crest which had the map of the Americas centered with a 'C' for "Club" on the left and an 'A' for "América" on the right. In deciding the team's colors, Rafael Garza Gutiérrez got a pair of his father's navy blue trousers and a yellow shirt and it was decided amongst the group that those would be the club's kit and colors.

In 1916, Club América had to prove itself to the Mexican Football League, then known as the Primera Fuerza. At the time, América was the only club in Mexico City with Mexican-born players. Necaxa, Atlante, Real Club España, Germania, and Asturias were already members of the Liga Mayor de la Ciudad. América's acceptance into the league rested on three games they had to win. América won two games, tied the third and were accepted.

In 1918, the team changed its name to Club Centro Unión, though it would revert to using the name América only two years later.

América won their first Primera Fuerza title in the 1924–25 season, being crowned champions after defeating Asturias 1–0 in the deciding match. América would win the Primera Fuerza three more times, all of them back-to-back. In 1926, América became the first Mexican club to play outside of Mexico. Aside from broadening their horizons, Club América, along with Atlante petitioned to reduce the number of foreign players in the league. Shortly after the Mexican Football Federation was formed in 1928, Rafael Garza Gutiérrez was designated as the head coach of the Mexico national team. Most of the national team that participated in the 1928 Summer Olympics and 1930 World Cup consisted of players from Club América.

1940–1969
Until 1942, Mexico had several leagues, although the league in Mexico City was considered the most developed. In 1942–43, the first National League was established and it was known as the Liga Mayor (Major League). Club América had declined from its then-prime of the 1920s and 1930s: aging players, diminishing financial resources, and resulting lack of interest made the team a bottom-feeder at the start of the beginning stage of the professional era7.

It was also during this time that the rivalry with Guadalajara was born; especially during the 1945–1946 season when Guadalajara beat América by 6–4 and 4–2 scorelines. The 1951–1952 season saw América finish in 11th place out of 12, with a 3-point-advantage over Veracruz, who were relegated. In 1954 América defeated rivals Guadalajara on penalties after a 0–0 draw in the Copa México final, thus winning their first league cup.

In 1956, the club was sold to soft drink manufacturer Jarritos. The new owner was trying to build upon the club's National Cup titles in 1954 and 1955 against Guadalajara. During the 1954–55 season América won their first Campeón de Campeones championship, defeating Zacatepec 3–2. The owner failed to build upon previous success and on 22 July 1959, Emilio Azcárraga Milmo, owner of Telesistema Mexicano, bought América from Isaac Bessudo. Following the acquisition, Azcárraga told his players, "I do not know much about football, but I do know a lot about business, and this, gentlemen, will be a business."

The 1959–1960 season saw América reach second place in the league, behind Guadalajara. On 21 April 1964, at the Estadio Olímpico Universitario, the team, now coached by Alejandro Scopelli, defeated Monterrey 6–5 in the final match of the Copa México. During the match Alfonso Portugal scored five of América's six; José González scored the other goal to win the championship.

On 7 May 1965, América regained the Mexican "Copa" championship after a 4–0 victory over Morelia at the Estadio Olímpico Universitario. The goals were scored by Javier Fragoso and Vavá, each scoring twice.

1970s
After Mexico hosted the 1970 FIFA World Cup, the league tournament format was changed in response to the championship's disputed winners, hence the Liguilla (play-offs) format was started. The first play-off final was in 1971 between Toluca and América, leaders of Groups 1 and 2, respectively. After a 0–0 draw in Toluca, América obtained their second league title after winning the second-leg 2–0 at the Estadio Azteca. The following season saw América eliminated from the playoffs by Cruz Azul. América would defeat Cruz Azul in the 1973 Copa México final. A few years followed in which América did not qualify for the playoffs. They finished in first place during the 1975–1976 season, and defeated Tecos UAG and Union de Curtidores in the quarter-finals and semi-finals to reach the final against Universidad de Guadalajara. América won the championship after beating UDG in the Jalisco Stadium 3–0 and 1–0 at the Estadio Azteca. They also won the Campeón de Campeones title by beating Tigres UANL 2–0.

In 1978, América participated in their first Copa Interamericana, playing against Argentine club Boca Juniors, winners of the 1977 Copa Libertadores. After losing the first-leg and winning the second, América would win the championship in a playoff match by a score of 2–1 after extra-time, with a last second free-kick goal by midfielder Carlos Reinoso. América became the first team from Mexico and from the CONCACAF region to win the competition. América also became the first confederation side to earn the "double" in a single year as it won the delayed 1977 CONCACAF Champions' Cup.

1980s
The 1980s are generally considered América's "golden decade". During this period, América won the league title five times, including three consecutive titles; the 1983–84 season, the 1984–85 season, the Prode-85 tournament, the 1987–88 and 1988–89 seasons. They also won the Mexican Super Cup twice, in 1987–88 and 1988–89, as well as the 1987 CONCACAF Champions' Cup.

The 1983–1984 season saw América reach the top of the table and reach the finals, where they would face arch-rivals Guadalajara, who the previous season had eliminated América in the semi-finals. Following a 2–2 draw at the Estadio Jalisco, América defeated Guadalajara in the Azteca Stadium 3–1, and a 5–3 aggregate score. To date, it is the only match between these two teams in the league finals, though they would face each other in other phases of the playoffs. The series has since been dubbed the "Final del Siglo" ("Final of the Century"). The following season América once again reached the finals, this time against city-rivals Pumas UNAM. After two draws in both the Azteca Stadium and the Mexico '68 Stadium, the last game was played in the Estadio Corregidora in Querétaro, where Daniel Brailovsky secured the championship for América by scoring two goals with the final score of 3–1.

Due to Mexico hosting the 1986 World Cup and stadium and infrastructure preparations, the tournament was split in two short tournaments: Prode-85 and Mexico-86. América clinched the top of their group in the Prode-85 and defeated Universidad de Guadalajara and Atlante (which was rescheduled following the earthquake suffered in Mexico City) to reach the final, where they faced Jaibos Tampico Madero. The game in Tampico was a 4–1 victory for Tampico, but at the Azteca Stadium, América beat Tampico Madero 4–0 to win the championship.

For the 1987–88 season, América met UNAM in the final, in a replay of the 1985 final. They defeated UNAM by an aggregate score of 4–2. The following season, América once again reached the league final and faced Cruz Azul, which was the first time the two clubs met in the final since 1972. The first-leg finished in a 3–2 victory for América. A 2–2 draw in the second-leg meant América won the championship by a 5–4 aggregate score.

1990s
During the 1990s, América only managed to win the CONCACAF Champions' Cup in 1990, a Copa Interamericana in 1993, and a second CONCACAF Champions' Cup in 1993. During the 1990–1991 season, América dominated its group and reached the playoffs to eliminate Universidad de Guadalajara in the quarter-final round and Guadalajara in the semi-final round, only to reach the final and lose to UNAM.

In 1994, club president Emilio Diez Barroso announced the hiring of Dutch manager Leo Beenhakker. The club also announced the signing of two African players, Cameroon international François Omam-Biyik and Zambia national team captain Kalusha Bwalya. Other Mexican players such as Joaquín del Olmo, Raúl Gutiérrez, among others were signed as well. América finished the season with 51 points, and scoring 88 goals. With only a few matches remaining in the regular season, Beenhakker was abruptly fired as manager. It was rumored that conflict between the coach and Diez Barosso regarding Beenhacker's defending of playing Del Olmo was the reason for his sacking. América reached the semi-finals, losing to Cruz Azul. This América team is considered one of the best in the club's history, despite not winning any silverware.

In 1998 América, along with Guadalajara, became the first Mexican club to participate in the Copa Libertadores tournament. They were inserted in a group where both teams confronted clubs from Venezuela. América finished in second position of the qualifying stage and advanced to the group stages. América was put in Group 3 along with Guadalajara and Brazilian clubs Grêmio and Vasco da Gama. América qualified to the next round finishing in third place, being eliminated by Argentine club River Plate.

2000s

In August 2001, América won the CONCACAF Giants Cup after defeating MLS club D.C. United 2–0. The following year, América would reach the league final against Necaxa, winning by a 3–2 aggregate score. After losing in the first-leg 0–2, América won the second by the same scoreline, forcing extra-time to be played. A golden goal from a Hugo Norberto Castillo header in the 107th minute gave América the victory, and the club its first league championship in 13 years.

The club once again reached the league final during the Clausura 2005 tournament, finishing third in the standings and defeating Santos Laguna and Cruz Azul in the quarterfinals and semi-finals to face Tecos UAG. After a 1–1 draw in the first-leg, América was victorious in the second, winning the match 6–3 at the Estadio Azteca – 7–4 on aggregate – to win the club's tenth league title.

On 19 April 2006, América defeated fellow-Mexican side Toluca to win the CONCACAF Champions' Cup, thus qualifying for the FIFA Club World Cup that same year. At the tournament, América won its first match against Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors of South Korea. América went on to lose the next match against Spanish side FC Barcelona. It ended its participation in the tournament, losing the match for third place to Al Ahly of Egypt.

2007
After the Club World Cup, América qualified for the playoffs of the Clausura 2007 defeating Atlas and Guadalajara in the quarter and semi-finals. They played the final against Pachuca, finishing runners-up.

For the Apertura 2007, after starting off the season on a poor run, Luis Fernando Tena was sacked, and was replaced by Daniel Brailovsky. After finishing third in their group and sixth in the general standings, América played Morelia for the last spot in the playoffs, being beaten 3–0 in the first-leg, and winning 1–0 in the second-leg. With this, América was eliminated from the competition.

América also participated in the Copa Sudamericana, reaching the finals to play against Arsenal de Sarandí of Argentina. They would lose the first-leg at the Estadio Azteca by a 2–3 score, and win 2–1 in Argentina. The aggregate result was 4–4, but due to the away goals rule, Arsenal won the championship.

América finished 2007 ranked tenth in the IFFHS's Club World Rankings, becoming the first Mexican club to reach the top ten.

2008
América started off 2008 winning the InterLiga tournament, defeating Cruz Azul 5–3 on penalties in the final following a 3–3 draw after 120 minutes, thus assuring qualification to the Copa Libertadores tournament that same year.

The Clausura tournament saw América end in next-to-last place in the general standings. This had not been seen since the mid-1950s. In the first five months of 2008, América was showered with twelve defeats, two draws and three victories, which resulted in the third-straight tournament without qualifying for the playoffs. The manager at the time was Rubén Omar Romano, who was one of the least successful coaches in the club's history. Coincidentally, after being replaced by Juan Antonio Luna, América got their third victory of the Clausura against Monterrey. Despite their poor domestic form, América fared well in the Copa Libertadores, defeating Brazilian side Flamengo 3–0 in the round-of-16 at the Estádio do Maracanã, overturning a 2–4 first-leg deficit, and advancing to the quarter-finals. They defeated Santos FC to reach the semifinal stage of the tournament, being eliminated by eventual champions LDU Quito after drawing 1–1 on aggregate.

2010s
For the Apertura 2010, América brought back former manager Manuel Lapuente, who led the club to the league title in 2002. The return of striker Vicente Matías Vuoso and the signing of Uruguayan Vicente Sánchez gave América one of the most dangerous front lines in all of the league. They finished the tournament in first place of Group 2, fourth in the general standings, with 27 points. With this, they would advance to the playoffs, and automatically qualify for the first time since 2008 for the 2011 Copa Libertadores. They would be eliminated in the semi-finals by Santos Laguna by a 4–5 aggregate score.

América had a bad start to the Clausura 2011 tournament; a 0–2–1 record in the first three games the tournament led to the sacking of Lapuente. Carlos Reinoso was named his successor, who had already managed the club two times before. His first game was against Atlas, which América won 2–0. América ended the Clausura with an 8–1–5 record, and would be eliminated in the quarter-finals by Morelia. On 18 September 2011, Reinoso was sacked as manager, with Alfredo Tena taking over as interim-manager. América would finish the Apertura in 17th place, the second worse finish in the club's history. On 8 November, Michel Bauer stepped down as president. That same day, former América player Ricardo Peláez was presented as Sporting President, while Yon De Luisa would be named Operations President. Miguel Herrera was presented as the club's new manager, the fourth in a year. In his first year at the helm, Herrera brought the team to the semi-finals on two consecutive occasions.

On 26 May 2013, América won their eleventh league title by defeating Cruz Azul in the Clausura final 4–2 on penalties after a dramatic comeback from a 0–1 first-leg loss to win 2–1 in the second-leg, and tie 2–2 on aggregate, with goalkeeper Moisés Muñoz scoring the second goal in injury-time. With this, América tied Guadalajara for most league titles. For the Apertura 2013, América finished the regular phase of the tournament at the top of the standings with 37 points and would again appear in the league final, though failing to achieve a repeat, being defeated by León by an aggregate score of 1–5. On 17 December 2013, Antonio Mohamed was announced as América's new manager for the Clausura 2014 tournament, replacing Miguel Herrera after two years in charge. América would finish fifth in the standings, and was eliminated in the quarter-finals by Santos Laguna due to the away-goals rule after drawing 6–6 on aggregate.

América finished the Apertura 2014 tournament at the top of the general standings with 31 points, and defeated UNAM and Monterrey in the quarter-finals and semi-finals, respectively. Prior to the league final, the club was marred in media speculation regarding the future of Antonio Mohamed (he ultimately admitted he would leave the club after the final) and the separation of Paul Aguilar from the team prior to the first-leg of the semi-finals. On 14 December, América won a record-twelfth league title after defeating Tigres UANL 3–1 on aggregate in the final, coming back from a 0–1 first-leg loss to win 3–0 in the second-leg at the Estadio Azteca. Three days after winning the final, América announced Gustavo Matosas as Mohamed's successor, signing a two-year contract.

In April 2015, the club won its sixth CONCACAF Champions League title after defeating Montreal Impact in the finals by a 5–3 aggregate score. Despite inconsistent displays throughout the Clausura tournament, América managed to finish second in the standings, though was eliminated by Pachuca in the quarter-finals. Three days later, with various media reports suggesting Gustavo Matosas would be sacked due to differences with the board regarding transfer strategy, it was confirmed in a press conference which was attended by both Matosas and club president Ricardo Pelaéz that he would indeed leave after only six months in charge. On 26 May, Ignacio Ambríz was presented as the new manager, signing a two-year contract. América lost its FIFA Club World Cup quarter-final match to Chinese team Guangzhou Evergrande, and defeated African club TP Mazembe to claim fifth place in the competition.

In April 2016, América successfully defended the CONCACAF Champions League title after defeating Tigres UANL 4–1 on aggregate in the finals, and winning a record seventh continental title. América culminated the year with a fourth place finish at the Club World Cup and finishing runners-up in the Apertura championship match against Tigres UANL.

América won its record thirteenth league title following a 2–0 aggregate victory over Cruz Azul in the 2018 Apertura final. In April 2019, América defeated Ascenso MX side FC Juárez in the final of the Clausura edition of the Copa MX, winning a record sixth title. In winning the cup, América became the outright record holders of the Liga MX, Copa MX, and CONCACAF Champions League. The team followed this up by winning the 2019 Campeón de Campeones against Tigres UANL and reaching the 2019 Apertura finals, losing 4–2 on penalties to Monterrey.

2020s
América began the new decade by finishing third in the Apertura general standings before being eliminated by Guadalajara in the quarter-finals. They finished the following Clausura in second place, only to be eliminated once again in the quarter-final stage, this time against Pachuca. América led the table during the 2021 Apertura and faced elimination in the same phase again, losing 3–1 on aggregate to UNAM. From the 2022 Clausura onwards, América managed to qualify consecutively to the semi-finals, only to face eliminations against Pachuca, Toluca (2022 Apertura), and Guadalajara (2023 Clausura), respectively.

América ended the regular phase of the 2023 Apertura first in the standings, and was both the highest scoring team and the side with the least amount of goals conceded. They defeated León and Atlético San Luis in the quarter-final and semi-final, and beat Tigres UANL 4–1 on aggregate to win a record-extending 14th title and end the club's five-year league drought.

Crest
When Club América was founded in 1916, the crest consisted of the letter 'C', standing for "Club", overlapped by an 'A', which stood for "América". After a brief period in which the team's name was changed to Club Unión, it was reverted to Club América in the mid-1920s, and the crest was modified, with a map of the Americas behind the 'CA', and encased in a football, all in the team's colors – which were cream and blue. Since then, the design of the crest has seen minimal change; at the beginning of the 21st century, the vertical line at the crest's center was removed. During the early 1980s, the crest was surrounded by an image of an eagle (due to the club's nickname), and was even enclosed in a triangle. The most recent modification of the crest was in 2010, with the yellow and blue more vibrant and a darker outline and border.

Colors
Club founder Rafael Garza Gutiérrez chose what would be América's first uniform. He took some of his father's navy blue trousers and a yellow-cream shirt and it was decided amongst the other players that those would be the club's colors. The club's kit design would go largely unchanged, and it would not be until the 1980s that the team colors changed, with the cream color replaced with a more vibrant yellow and blue, along with the introduction of the inverted triangle design on the shirt in 1982. A third, alternate white and blue shirt was introduced towards the end of the decade, but it was not worn frequently.

During the Apertura 2011 tournament – what was the club's 95th anniversary – a commemorative jersey was unveiled paying homage to the original uniform, as well as an altered crest. The uniform was used during the Súper Clásico match against Guadalajara.

In May 2016, as part of the club's centenary, a dark red away kit was revealed honouring Italian club Torino, who functioned as the club's first opponent at the Estadio Azteca in the 1966 inaugural match.

Nicknames
Throughout Club América's history, it has been given a number of nicknames. During the club's early years it was given the nickname Estudiantes (Students), because it had been established as a result of a merger of students from the colleges of Mascarones and La Perpetua. They were also given the nicknames Cremas (Creams) and Azul-cremas (Blue-creams) in reference to the kit colors. During the 1960s, following businessman Emilio Azcárraga Milmo's purchase of Club América, it was given its infamous Millonetas (Millionaires) nickname. In an effort to change the fortunes of the club which for years had been struggling financially and was suffering a five-year trophy-less drought, Azcárraga Milmo prioritized high-profile signings of foreign players and executives, notably hiring Guillermo Cañedo de la Bárcena, the successful president of Zacatepec. The Águilas (Eagles) nickname was the result of a rebranding and media campaign undertaken by Televisa in 1981. Along with a new kit and color scheme, the Águilas nickname was introduced at a press conference held by the club at the Estadio Azteca.

Grounds

América plays its home games at the Estadio Azteca in Mexico City. The stadium was designed by Mexican architect Pedro Ramírez Vázquez, and was inaugurated on 29 May 1966 with a match between América and Torino, which was tied 2–2. The first goal was scored was by Brazilian Arlindo Dos Santos and the second by José Alves. Gustavo Díaz Ordaz, President of Mexico, made the initial kick and Sir Stanley Rous, FIFA President, was the witness.

The club has shared the stadium as a home ground with the Mexico national football team since its inauguration. Other club sides have also used the stadium as their home at different times, namely Necaxa (1966–70 and 1982–2003), Atlante (1966–82, 1996–2001 and 2004–2007), Universidad Nacional (1967–1969), Atlético Español (1970–1982) and Cruz Azul (1971–1996 and 2018-2023).

As well as acting as a home ground the stadium has also hosted the 1968 Summer Olympics, 1970 FIFA World Cup, 1975 Pan American Games, 1983 FIFA World Youth Championship, 1986 FIFA World Cup, 1999 FIFA Confederations Cup, 2011 FIFA U-17 World Cup Final, Copa Interamericana, Copa Libertadores de América, music concerts, political events and the visit of Pope John Paul II in 1999.

Clásico Capitalino
The rivalry between Club América and Club Universidad Nacional is known as the "Clásico Capitalino", due to the fact that both teams are based in Mexico City—the country's capital. The first match between the two clubs took place on 1 July 1962, where América hosted UNAM, who had recently been promoted from the second division. In Mexico the match is often perceived as the representation of a struggle between two antagonistic powers and institutions: Club América is regarded as the club representing the establishment and the wealthy. The fact that the club is owned by the mass media company Televisa has further intensified this image. Club Universidad, representing the Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, identifies itself as the club of the intellectuals and middle-class. The rivalry is particularly fierce from UNAM's side: according to surveys the majority of their supporters consider América as their main rival. However, America's fans see it as an important match but deem the match against Chivas as more important.

Clásico Joven
Club América's other capital-based rival is Cruz Azul, with matches between the two known as the "Clásico Joven" ("Juvenile Classic" in Spanish). In a similar perspective between América and UNAM's rivalry, the rivalry between América and Cruz Azul is also seen as based on social class differences: América representing the wealthy and powerful while Cruz Azul is said to represent the working class, hence fans of Cruz Azul and the team itself being dubiously referred to by the nickname of "Los Albañiles" (bricklayers in Spanish), a reference to Cruz Azul's eponymous parent company, which is one of Mexico's major companies specializing in concrete and construction.

Support

Club América has consistently ranked, along with rivals Guadalajara, as Mexico's most popular team. In December 2013 the newspaper Reforma had América as the country's most popular club with 25 percent in a nationwide survey, and the most popular in Mexico City. In a February 2015 poll conducted by the firm Consulta Mitofsky, América was named the most popular club with 31.1 percent of the population being supporters, more than rivals Guadalajara (17.9) and Cruz Azul (12.7) combined. In 2016 and 2017 America was the country's most supported team, and in 2018 fell to second behind Guadalajara. In 2019 América regained the top spot with 32 percent, doubling the amount of Guadalajara supporters for the first time. It is the club with the most social media interactions in Mexico and among the most in all of Latin America.

América is also amongst the most popular teams in the United States. According to a 2020 survey by Gilt Edge Soccer Marketing, América is the ninth most popular team in the U.S., the only non-European in the top ten, and the only one from Latin America. A 2014 study conducted by EuroAmericas Sports Marketing ranked América as the most popular Mexican club in Asia, and the third most popular from the Americas after Corinthians of Brazil and Boca Juniors of Argentina.

Conversely, América is the most hated team in Mexico, ranking first in that metric in every annual survey. Ever since the club was bought by media mogul Emilio Azcárraga Milmo from Issac Bessudo in 1959, the club has had the unique distinction of being both one of the most popular clubs and the most hated. An emphasis on heavy spending on Mexican and foreign players and managers in subsequent seasons, as well as success in domestic and international competitions, created an increasing sense of enmity from rival fans. The fact that Azcárraga Milmo was also the owner of telecommunications company Telesistema Mexicano furthered the notion that América was the club of the "establishment" and the "wealthy", while others were considered teams representing the "working class". Being reputed as the most hated club in the country has been embraced by the club and its fans, with the phrase "Ódiame Más" ("Hate me more" in English) being known as one of the team's unofficial slogans.

Sponsorship
Additional club sponsors and partners:
 * 🇺🇸 AT&T
 * 🇺🇸 Carl's Jr.
 * 🇲🇽 Chilchota Alimentos
 * 🇺🇸 Coca-Cola
 * 🇲🇽 Corona
 * eFootball
 * 🇺🇸 eGo
 * Free Fire
 * 🇲🇽 Gonher
 * 🇲🇽 GNP Seguros
 * 🇲🇽 INFONAVIT
 * 🇺🇸 Powerade
 * 🇲🇽 Restonic
 * 🇺🇸 StubHub
 * 🇲🇽 VivaAerobús

Management

Source: Club América

Coaching staff
Source: Club América

Reserve teams

 * América Coyoacán
 * Reserve team that plays in the Liga TDP, the fourth level of the Mexican league system.

Historic players
As part of Club América's centenary celebrations in 2016, a public vote was taken via the club's website in which the following players were chosen as 'Historic Players'. Players whose names appear italicized played for the club at the time the votes were taken.
 * Goalkeepers

 * 🇲🇽 Guillermo Ochoa
 * 🇲🇽 Moisés Muñoz
 * 🇲🇽 Adolfo Ríos
 * 🇦🇷 Héctor Zelada

 * Defenders

 * 🇲🇽 Alfredo Tena
 * 🇲🇽 Mario Trejo
 * 🇲🇽 Armando Manzo
 * 🇲🇽 Juan Hernández
 * 🇲🇽 José Antonio Castro
 * Cesilio de los Santos
 * 🇲🇽 Vinicio Bravo
 * 🇲🇽 Duilio Davino
 * 🇲🇽 Miguel Layún

 * Midfielders

 * 🇮🇱 Daniel Brailovsky
 * Carlos Reinoso
 * 🇧🇷 Antônio Carlos Santos
 * 🇲🇽 Pável Pardo
 * 🇲🇽 Germán Villa
 * 🇦🇷 Eduardo Bacas
 * 🇲🇽 Gonzalo Farfán
 * 🇲🇽 Alfredo Sánchez
 * 🇲🇽 Cristóbal Ortega
 * Kalusha Bwalya
 * Osvaldo Martínez
 * 🇦🇷 Rubens Sambueza

 * Forwards

 * 🇲🇽 Cuauhtémoc Blanco
 * Salvador Cabañas
 * 🇪🇨 Christian Benítez
 * 🇲🇽 Luís Roberto Alves
 * 🇲🇽 Raúl Jiménez
 * 🇦🇷 Claudio López
 * 🇲🇽 Enrique Borja
 * 🇨🇲 François Omam-Biyik
 * Iván Zamorano
 * 🇧🇷 José Alves
 * Osvaldo Castro
 * 🇲🇽 Roberto Rodríguez
 * 🇲🇽 Eduardo González Pálmer

Top scorers

 * Primera División
 * 🇲🇽 Eduardo González Pálmer (1958–59; 25)
 * 🇧🇷 José Alves (1965–66; 20)
 * 🇲🇽 Enrique Borja (1970–71; 20)
 * 🇲🇽 Enrique Borja (1971–72; 26)
 * 🇲🇽 Enrique Borja (1972–73; 24)
 * 🇨🇱 Osvaldo Castro (1973–74; 26)
 * 🇦🇷 Norberto Outes (1982–83; 22)
 * 🇲🇽 Cuauhtémoc Blanco (Invierno 1998; 16)
 * 🇧🇷 Kléber (Apertura 2005; 11)
 * 🇲🇽 Ángel Reyna (Clausura 2011; 13)
 * 🇪🇨 Christian Benítez (Clausura 2012; 14)
 * 🇪🇨 Christian Benítez (Apertura 2012; 11)
 * 🇪🇨 Christian Benítez (Clausura 2013; 12)
 * 🇲🇽 Henry Martín (Clausura 2023; 14)

 * International
 * 🇲🇽 Hugo Sánchez (1992 CONCACAF Champions' Cup; 5)
 * 🇲🇽 Aarón Padilla (2006 CONCACAF Champions' Cup; 4)
 * Salvador Cabañas (2007 Copa Libertadores; 10)
 * Salvador Cabañas (2008 Copa Libertadores; 8)
 * 🇦🇷 Darío Benedetto / 🇲🇽 Oribe Peralta (2014–15 CONCACAF Champions League; 7)

All-time records
All current players are in bold

Notable managers
The following managers have won at least one trophy while in charge of América:

Presidents
Since the club was established in 1916, América has had 27 club presidents, with the first being Florencio Domínguez, who served from 1916 to 1920. Guillermo Cañedo de la Bácerna is the club's longest-serving president who served from 1961 to 1981. Filiberto Zapata had the shortest term in the club's history – serving less than year – in 1940. The current sporting president is Santiago Baños.

In 1951, actor and comedian Cantinflas was named Honorary President of the club.

Honours
Club América is the most decorated side in Mexican football. The club has won 15 league titles, 6 Copa México championships, 7 Campeón de Campeones cups and 1 Supercopa de la Liga MX. They hold the record for most league and cup titles, and their record Campeón de Campeones wins are tied with Guadalajara. In international competitions América has won 10 titles, the most for a club from the CONCACAF region. The club has won 8 continental championships, including a record 7 CONCACAF Champions Cup/Champions League titles and 1 CONCACAF Giants Cup. In intercontinental competitions, América has won 2 Copa Interamericanas, a record amongst CONCACAF clubs.

Alongside Egyptian club Al Ahly, América holds the distinction of being the outright record winner of its national league, cup competition, and confederation.

 * {{legend|gold|record}}
 * shared record

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Maqta'

In Persian, Turkic and Urdu poetry, the maqta' (from Arabic مقطع maqṭaʿ; ; məqtə; makta; maqta; مقطع) is the first bayt, or couplet, of a ghazal. In this sense, it is the opposite of the matla'. The poet's takhallus, or pen name, is usually employed in the maqta', often in very creative ways.

A shayar can use the maqta' in a variety of interesting ways. He can "talk to himself", "to somebody else", "refer to something" etc. For example Firaq Gorakhpuri, whose takhallus is the word for the common theme in Urdu poetry of the state of pining for the beloved, plays on his pen name and the word firaq:

Roman Urdu:
 * Tu yeh na samajh ke Firaq teri Firaq mein hai
 * Firaq uski Firaq mein hai jo teri Firaq mein hai

English Translation:
 * Don't think that Firaq pines for you
 * Firaq pines for the one who pines for you

Examples
A sher by Mir Taqi Mir:

Mir in neem baaz aankhon mein

Saari masti sharaab ki see hai

Another by Mirza Ghalib:

Kaba kis munh se jaaoge Ghalib

sharm tum ko magar nahiN aati

title: Maqta'


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