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Freebox

The Freebox is an ADSL-VDSL-FTTH modem and a set-top box that the French Internet service provider named Free (part of the Iliad group) provides to its DSL-FTTH subscribers.

Its main use is as a high-end fixed and wireless modem (802.11g MIMO), but it also allows Free to offer additional services over ADSL, such as IPTV including high definition (1080p), Video recording with timeshifting capabilities, digital radio and VoIP telephone service via one RJ-11 connector (the first version came with 2 such jacks but only one was ever activated)

The Freebox is provided free to the subscribers, its value being 190 Euros, according to the operator. It is delivered with a remote control, a multimedia box equipped with a 250 GB hard drive, and accessories (cables and filters). At the end of Q2 2005, more than 1.1 million subscribers were equipped with the Freebox. According to company official's results publication, the 2 million level of Freeboxes were reached in September 2006.

V6 generation, Freebox Révolution
The sixth generation device is called the Freebox Révolution or V6 (Version 6). It was launched in early 2011. It is composed of a pair of devices: the ADSL modem/router and the IPTV set top box/media player. The boxes were designed by Philippe Starck.

The Freebox Server device
The Freebox server is a DSL modem, a router, a Wi-Fi hot spot, a NAS (250 GB hard drive), a DECT base with up to 8 connected DECT phone sets, and a digital video recorder for TNT also known as DVB-T and IPTV. As the firmware is updated, its functionalities increase. Most notably:
 * An external hard drive can be connected to its USB and/or eSATA port. However, some TV channels cannot be recorded to an external hard drive due to copyright policy limitations. Such limitations do not apply to channels recorded from TNT.
 * The video formats supported are quite wide in range including mp4, H264, mp2, mkv, avi and others. Some formats are not supported though firmware updates may increase the number of readable file formats.
 * The server automatically detects local network file shares through UPnP and can read videos from any computer on the local network.
 * The server's hard drive is available from the local network to Macintosh, Linux, and Windows computers. It can be made available from the WAN.
 * IPTV is available in real-time to any computer on the local network, if the bandwidth is sufficient and the number of simultaneous channels does not exceed 2. However, some channels are not available (most of those that cannot be recorded on an external hard drive).
 * The DSL modem router can be configured either as an Ethernet router or a simple DSL modem (bridge mode).
 * The server handles 3 Wi-Fi networks: a private Wi-Fi network (possibly hidden) and a so-called "FreeWifi" network which creates a hotspot and allows any other Freebox customer in proximity to connect to the Internet, after entering their Free user name and password, and a hidden network dedicated to IPTV for the Freebox HD (v5) video box if you choose to link this via Wi-Fi.
 * The server can be managed through its built-in Web server. Also, TV recordings can be managed from the WAN.
 * Because of the changes in the hardware and capabilities, the monthly fee (initially €29.99 including the XDSL line) is now only for the services, a separate cost of €6 is added for XDSL line access, free if you have ADSL over an active POTS (monthly fee €16), but this increase includes modifications in the services fee (see below). It now includes:
 * Free calls to any mobile phone in France.
 * Calls to landline phones in France and 104 countries, as was already included before.
 * Free calls to any phone in France from any Internet connection worldwide.
 * Renting the Freebox Revolution Server and its TV box.
 * IPTV is now an option (€1.99) so people who are not eligible for such services (i.e. their home is too far away from the DSLAM) do not pay for it, but, as a legal twist, after an increase in VAT in order to reduce the basis of taxes for artistic creation.
 * The server can act as a DECT base station for up to 8 DECT handsets.
 * The server supports SIP for VoIP phone calls. It allows subscribers to use their smartphone or a dedicated VoIP phone to make calls at Freebox rates instead of using the cellular network.
 * The server can use an optical fiber network where available.
 * The server is now compatible with Apple's AirPlay and Time Machine technologies (firmware 1.1.0, August 2011).
 * A catch-up TV service which covers 33 channels over the past 7 days. This service is proposed in high quality compared to its internet-based counterpart.

The Freebox Player
The Freebox Player is the set-top box part of the "Freebox Revolution" offer. It is connected to the Freebox Server via PLC or by a direct Ethernet cable if both devices are close enough. It is possible to rent another Freebox Player if one wants to connect another TV set in another room.

The Freebox Player device has:
 * One Blu-ray/DVD player (Blu-ray playback requires HDMI connection) and an optical sound output.
 * One USB (on the front) and one eSata plug to connect hard drives (or a joystick or keyboard for the USB part).
 * One DVB-T plug. By contrast with TV over DSL, DNV programs can be recorded to the Freebox Server or to a local hard drive with no restriction about accessing it from a computer.
 * One remote control. By contrast with most concurrent devices, the remote control uses Zigbee (standardized power saving low rate low power radio wave) instead of infrared.
 * The Freebox player can be controlled from a smartphone or a computer, or an iPad app.
 * Every external device connected to the Freebox player is available to that device only but the devices connected to the Freebox Server are available to every Freebox player connected.
 * The player can access Internet and e-mail with no computer connected, using either the remote control (which includes gyroscopic control) or from a USB keyboard (not included).
 * Games are available from the Free-Store. A USB gamepad is included.
 * You can plug in a USB memory stick with photos or music files and watch/play them.

Serving Files to the Freebox Player
The Freebox Player can access audio/video files on any local computer through UPnP AV. External subtitle files (.srt) should be first be merged with the video file in Matroska format, e.g. with mkvmerge.

V5 generation
The Freebox version 5 was released in April 2006 and expanded the possibilities of the modem. It is now divided into two boxes connected together via high-speed Wifi MIMO or PLC: the first device provides Internet access, Wifi connection and a phone line; the second device is an IPTV set-top box, with advanced TV features like timeshifting, or video on demand. It also supports video games, either specifically designed for the Freebox or using emulation of discontinued video game systems (Master System, Game Gear, Game Boy).

The multimedia element is able to read HDTV IPTV streams and includes a Terrestrial Numerical Television demodulator, can serve as a home A/V broadcasting station, includes a 40 Gb hard drive for recording and time-shifting, and a load of A/V ports.

The Network element is an Ethernet hub and a wifi hotspot.

The two elements can be linked via Ethernet, wifi or High-Speed Networking Over the Mains.

The telephony offer via the Freebox offers various services such as free calls between Freebox subscribers and towards the fixed numbers in Metropolitan France, and also free over 100 foreign countries (USA, Canada, UK, Spain, China, India, South America, etc.).

According to Alexandre Archambault from Free, the Freebox is "nothing other than the return to the fundamentals of the DSL", whose initial objective was "to connect via a single support several types of terminals, therefore several types of services: telephone (telephony), microcomputer (Internet access), television set (television transmission, video on demand, pay per view...), hi-fi system (radios, etc.)".

Therefore, it is much more than a simple ADSL modem, which can only make the interface between a computer and the Internet. Free general conditions describe it as "an electronic instrument being used as interface between the data-processing and or audio-visual equipment of the user and the network of Free Telecom".

Technical features
The box is managed by an operating system using a derivative of the Linux kernel. It has many interfaces:
 * An Ethernet port 10/100 Mbit/s full/half duplex;
 * A USB 2.0 port;
 * An HDMI port;
 * An RJ11 jack for the ADSL connection;
 * An RJ11 jack for phone equipment (two jacks on versions 1 & 2 but only one active);
 * A SCART socket
 * A digital audio output RCA, or optical S/PDIF starting from version 3;
 * An extension port of the serial ATA standard on versions 3 and 4 and parallel ATA standard on versions 1 and 2;
 * A host USB port on version 4;

Since version 3, the Freebox can be configured to act as a router. The Freebox version 4 appeared mid-2004 and includes a chipset compatible with the ADSL 2+ standard, as well as a USB port, which will allow, in the long term, the addition of functions such as videoconferencing.

The Freebox OS uses BusyBox.

Now with the v3 (and next), it also provides a VideoLAN client in order to get the movies (in any format VLC understands) stored on the computer and watchable on TV through a playlist selector. This functionality is named Freeplayer.

In the same way, the Freebox (v3 and upper) is able to broadcast TV channels to one or more computers.

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Combe Moor

Combe Moor, also known as Coombes Moor, is a linear hamlet in the civil parish of Byton in Herefordshire, England, to the south-east of the Welsh town of Presteigne, near the border with Wales, and 17 mi north-west from the county town of Hereford.

Geography
The village is on the B4362 road on the B4362 road between Shobdon and Presteigne near the confluence of the Hindwell Brook and the River Lugg. During the Devensian period, "the eastward advance of the Wye Glacier blocked the preglacial Lugg at Combe Moor and the river cut a new course to the north-east before turning south-east through the east-to-west ridge via the Covenhope Gap." Cross and Hodgson described the sediments of the Combe Moor basin in 1975 as "finely laminated and stoneless."

Combe Moor lies to the south-east of Combe, just to the south-west of the village of Byton. Brandhill Wood lies to the south and Park Hill to the north-east. The moor to the north of the village is called Byton Moor and there is also a moor of the same name as the village just to the west of that. The Herefordshire Trail long distance footpath passes through the village.

Landmarks
The Herefordshire Trail leads to Wapley Hillfort. There is an old schoolhouse to the north-east along the road to Byton. Mistletoe House in the village is a tea room and gallery. Other cottages in the vicinity include Rue Cottage in the village itself and Wapley cottage along the lane to the south-east.

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Talk:Partition of India

Attlee section
Hello ,

Thanks for adding the Attlee-related material. It was needed for sure, but perhaps it was Labour party's decision in the wake of the prevailing economic conditions and the mood of the electorate that needed to be emphasized than Attlee himself. The references I had put in place after my revert were WP:TERTIARY souces, i.e. widely-used undergraduate textbooks to determine due weight. In other words, in my way of thinking, those sources are the foundations of the text. More detailed sources are best employed for fleshing out what has been established in the tertiary sources. This can be done with more detailed explanations or vignettes. Fowler&fowler «Talk»  14:58, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the explanation! The sources that I had looked at had suggested that prevailing economic conditions and war-weariness provided the long-term rationale for decolonization, but that Attlee's personal interests and convictions prompted him to move so quickly whereas the Conservatives, or possibly even a different Labour government, would just have restarted another round of Congress/Muslim League talks knowing full well the process could take a long time. I recognize the general importance though of relying on tertiary sources rather than his biographers, who will obviously focus on his personal role. I do think this is an important turning point in 20th century history and it would be good to have a bit more detail about the deliberations and the decision. I took an interest in this because I found that a lot of tertiary sources tended to gloss over it, treating it as sort of an exhaustion-driven fait accompli. whereas I would argue (though obviously not in Wikipedia) that it at the time it was pretty rare for overstretched empires to pass up on the chance to kick the can down the road if they could. I would suggest including the September announcement, which Guha (Gandhi's biographer) suggests was a pretty important impetus. If it's all right, I will look for some detailed explanations or vignettes in other sources. I am not sure I would use them only to flesh out what has been established in undergraduate textbooks, as many of them rely on received wisdom, although if that is Wikipedia's practice I will defer to it.
 * Steve Negus (talk) 15:49, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest that this line in particular - "Late in 1945, the British government decided to end British Raj in India" - could really stand to be fleshed out. I assume it came from the textbooks. I don't think there's anything in the biographies that contradict it, but they could add a great deal of detail. Given how critical a juncture it was, and the precedent it set, that decision arguably deserves an article in itself. Steve Negus (talk) 16:40, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Having read the Wikipedia section on tertiary sources, I do see the importance of relying on them to establish due weight as a general principle of editing. That said, I would still like to try to find some first-hand descriptions of the deliberations, as I like to know what key actors were saying at the time about this kind of decision. Thank you again @Fowler&fowler for the explanation. Steve Negus (talk) 23:47, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Apologies, for forgetting about this.  Noted.  Will attend, but gradually.  (I'm supposed to be on vacation. :))  Fowler&fowler  «Talk»  02:38, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Thanks for the update! Steve Negus (talk) 02:47, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Lead
No quotes, please. This is way out of line with MOS. TrangaBellam (talk) 12:23, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK. I was being lazy.  :)  Will fix it next.  Thanks. If you see any other issues in the lead, please do let me know  Fowler&fowler  «Talk»  16:23, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I do not see the relevance of third paragraph (Sikkim - huh?); have never seen any scholar, writing on Partition, to provide such a disclaimer at the outset. TrangaBellam (talk) 17:02, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I think you are correct that the third paragraph is more of a dab section than a summary of the main body. But the main body is not all NPOV, probably not comprehensive.
 * The sentences of the third paragraph have been grandfathered in over the years as a result of people adding this bit and that.
 * For now, though, I think they are important because they describe how the regions of South Asia outside British India (i.e. outside the directly ruled portion of the subcontinent) were affected by the decolonisation that caused the partition.
 * I grant that there are less contrapositive-ish ways of saying this, but somewhere central on WP, we need to record that (a) princely states were encouraged (i.e. seduced, cajoled, browbeaten, or threatened) into joining one dominion or the other; (b) Hyderabad and Junagadh were annexed by India (i.e. in a less than fully legal manner) soon after Mountbatten left in 1948; (c) the dispute in Kashmir (in which the Indians have the letter of the law on their side, and the Pakistanis very likely the spirit, in many Western eyes) began at the same time; (d) Sri Lanka and Burma did receive their independence, but only in the following year, and so forth.  ... Will write more later.  Fowler&fowler  «Talk»  17:50, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * It is sometimes said, "The partition was a division of British India and its less tangible assets into two Dominions, India and Pakistan. The Raj was an empire, i.e. a loose-knit federation of directly administered and indirectly rules regions.  The indirectly ruled regions, the princely states had some treaty rights with the British which the latter revoked at the time of decolonization.  The Indians after the partition, especially, brooked no notion of nominally independent regions within their boundaries (and eventually the Pakistanis followed). The loose-knit empire of the British in which both people and animals, for example, migrated back and forth between directly ruled and indirectly ruled regions, was eventually replaced by states with firmly declared and defended boundaries across which migration was no longer possible. So, in effect, it became a partition of the Raj, not just British India.  Fowler&fowler  «Talk»  02:34, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Refugees
Pinging - please note that the quoted passage from the reference uses refugees.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 05:36, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Lead image
Codenamewolf has reverted my edits, which include information about Jinnah's reaction to Partition. The material that I added had two citations. As long as this is properly attributed to the claimant and the reference, there is no reason why this should be reversed. It seems to me like an issue of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 16:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

 * The WP:ONUS is on your to gain WP:CONSENSUS  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 21:32, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Previous discussion linked here and to be continued here further. Codenamewolf (talk) 21:54, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I've reverted your edit not because the collage image is wrong or bad but because the version of this article with the map is the status quo. It should stay until consensus is reached here.  City o f  Silver  22:15, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

 * And if a consensus is not met? Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 22:40, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

 * The status quo would stand. I doubt that'll happen this won't reach a consensus, though. Please state your case for your preferred version of this article and please do not mention that other user.  City o f  Silver  22:52, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Having an outdated 1901 map shows nothing about partition. That's like me having a map of 1789 Europe for the main image of the WW2 article. It does not help the reader gain any idea of what partition was about.
 * The long standing [1901] map is useless, it doesn't show any proper borders involving partition or provinces, or districts. It makes no sense to have a map as the main image when there's another, more accurate, map right underneath it.
 * The pre partition is inaccurate and doesn't account for the partition of Bengal and other regions. It's not just a Pre-Partition map, it's simply a completely outdated map that doesn't showcase the situation just before and during 1947. If you really want a map, there are far better ones that show partition. Your current map is already represented right underneath it by 4 other maps. It's overkill with the maps.
 * I suggest having a collage of images, similar to the article of the Bangladesh Liberation War article. I agree that one image of the riots doesn't represent all of partition, several images though (like the Liberation War article, which is less grand) would accurately help readers get a better visual idea of partition- more than that a image of a destroyed village or an extremely outdated map. The 1901 map is clearly outdated, and doesn't show any idea about the situation of Partition. Even the purpose of the map is outdated. The Hindu/Muslim districts changed tons of times after 1901 due to smaller partitions as I've talked about, and the succession of different monarchs in princely states. Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 01:45, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. please state your case for your preferred version of this article and please do not mention that other user.  City  o f  Silver  01:52, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The issue with collages is that no four specific set of images can represent the Partition of India, it is too eventful and grand, and there's more to it than just the communal violence, refugee crisis etc that followed in the aftermath, which the OP wants to use exclusively with one sided images that they specifically prefer that also look unnatural and violate MOS:SHOCKVALUE.
 * That Bangladesh Liberation War page also becomes completely irrelevant when you have pages like the Cold War that have maps as representative images.
 * Maps are the best representative on this topic as this page is primarily about the change in political borders, and the formation of two separate dominions/countries, and it is logical for an article reader to want to see depictions of before and after images of pre and post partition British India. The issue OP raises with maps is that they are outdated, in which case they can replace the lead image with the best map alternative they think there is.
 * But MOS:IMAGELEAD also makes it clear in the case of articles where there are no direct representative images, it is to remove them from the lead entirely. Codenamewolf (talk) 04:49, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The Cold War wasn't a one year political change and conflict like partition. It encompasses hundreds of conflicts. There's such an obvious difference. Partition can be represented perfectly with a 4 lead image collage. The collage I added did a good job of that. There was 100% no bias in the collage. One image was Muslim refugees waiting at a train, another was the aftermath of Direct Action Day (an event which both sides lost great numbers, and thus isn't one sided), a photo of riot damage in Punjab, and the last photo was an image of the 3 leaders of partition sitting together. Literally no bias can be found at all.
 * Much of partition's grandness comes from its massive migration and violence, and that's why 3/4 images represent that. The other image represents the political process. I can definitely change the collage to include more diverse images if that's the main issue. Adding a map in the collage invalidates any of Codenamewolf's criticism, and would be a solution.
 * And for the longest time, the Cold War article had 9 lead images, until recently. Point in case. Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 02:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * This page is exactly like the cold war, as it has a background going back to hundreds of years of colonial rule by the British and a similarly eventful aftermath. The first "Background" section heading will make that clear.
 * And what do mean by diverse images? You're going to add images of Hindu refugees along with Muslim ones, an image of Gandhi, the British along with Jinnah, riot images of every religious group being targeted etc ? That would look horrendous, and would still not address the issues with cherry picking as the partition is way more eventful than that as evidenced by the article body, and it would always be subject to edit wars. Diverse images or not, lead image clutter is best avoided in all cases and MOS:PERTINENCE is clear in cases like these, it is best not to overwhelm the article with too many images that are primarily decorative and ultimately serve no encyclopedic purpose.
 * See also: MOS:LEADIMAGE Lead images should be natural and appropriate representations of the topic; they should not only illustrate the topic specifically, but also be the type of image used for similar purposes in high-quality reference works.. And in this case, they are primarily maps.
 * If you have any better alternative map suggestions, do post them here. Codenamewolf (talk) 17:51, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The Cold War and Partition are incomparable. Everything you said is silly and trivial criticism. A map, the photo of the 3 leaders, and 2 other images would work perfect as a collage. The lead image doesn't represent the background info of the subject, so your point is invalid. It seems as if you don't know the meaning of "cherrypicking", because the images I chose had no bias, and fairly represented everything.
 * And there would be very little edit wars, as the Bangladesh Liberation War article and (previously) the Cold War article had the same collage of images for years without any issue. Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 17:11, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Codenamewolf Response? Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 00:38, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I had only brought up the Cold War because you brought up the Bangladesh Liberation War, which doesn't compare to this page at all either.
 * My point of lead image clutter still stands. If the purpose of excess images is to be primarily decorative, it's better avoided.
 * And "The lead image doesn't represent the background info". True, and it shouldn't be represented by aftermath pictures either.
 * A page primarily about the change in political borders is best represented by exactly that: image depictions by the use of maps, which serves encyclopedic purpose. Though you might have a point about too many maps, in which case, one of these should be moved to the body. Codenamewolf (talk) 04:12, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Partition wasn't just the political divide. It also involves the violence that occurred. As such, there is no reason not to include images of violence.
 * If you want to use a map, we're going to use a better map. A map representing the 1931/41 census of India would do. The 1901 map is non-negotiable, it needs to be removed. Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 17:40, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * No response? Anyway, why not have a collage + the map in the infobox? @Codenamewolf Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 14:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * What map do you propose? Can you post it in another thread in case other users would like to weigh in? I'm not necessarily opposed to an idea of an alternative map image.
 * And I think that adding a additional collage would look too cluttered, unnecessary and non standard. We've already been through this discussion before a month or two ago. Codenamewolf (talk) 06:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * We can keep the same 1901 map. Just look at my most recent edit on the partition page, and you'll see what I wanted to do. Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 16:09, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Partition of India
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Partition of India's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Census1881": From British Raj:  From Religion in the Punjab:  From Delhi:

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. Feel free to remove this comment after fixing the refs. AnomieBOT ⚡ 05:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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Der Blutharsch

Der Blutharsch was an Austrian martial industrial, neofolk and psychedelic rock project created in 1996 by Albin Julius.

Group leader Albin Julius died on 4 May 2022.

History
Originally a side project to The Moon lay hidden beneath a Cloud, Julius' first release as Der Blutharsch was a self-titled picture disc (1996), limited to 250 copies. Early Der Blutharsch recorded material was very dark ambient in sound, heavy on historic samples and post-industrial melodic drones. As the discography progressed, the material became more lively, with the more bombastic approach and a focus on a form of martial industrial with emphasis on neoclassical instrumentation combined with experimentalism. Subject matter and imagery largely derived from historical topics relating to the history of Germanic Europe.

With the release of Time Is Thee Enemy! in 2003, Julius took Der Blutharsch into the direction of a psychedelic rock band. Gone were the martial aspects of Der Blutharsch, only apparent to some extent in promotional imagery. Instead of a one-man project, promotional material showcased the project as a fleshed out group. Live shows continued in this direction with a focus on placing the group further into the area of psychedelic rock. Subsequently, any traces of the previous focus on historical themes disappeared with new promotional imagery showcasing references to psychedelic pop art.

Julius released all Der Blutharsch material on his own record label, WKN (Wir Kapitulieren Niemals). This translates from German to English as We will never surrender.

Live
Live, Der Blutharsch started as a one-man electronic music show. Later, Albin Julius performed as a two or three man show, with martial drumming and spoken (or shouted) lyrics. This can be seen in the Gold Gab Ich Für Eisen (1999) and God Blast America! (filmed 2002, released 2011) videos. Later, Der Blutharsch became a full band, with acoustic instruments and female vocal accompaniment. Julius has since enlisted several musicians as "full time" members of the group with the setup of a traditional rock band. In September 2009 they played at the Incubate (festival) in Tilburg, Netherlands.

Symbolism and aesthetics
Originally, Der Blutharsch used a logo that was a single Sig Rune within a triangular shield, reading 'Der Blutharsch' in the upper portion of the triangle in a Fraktur font. This appeared on most early Der Blutharsch vinyl releases and on the original Der Blutharsch website, but was replaced on later pressings by the new logo. On later Der Blutharsch releases, the original Sig Rune logo was replaced with an iron cross embellished with oak leaves. Reissues of old material also excluded the previous logo in favor of the 'new' logo.

Controversy
Julius' output is often described as neo-fascist owing to his frequent use of military-related themes and fascist aesthetics, including Third Reich-era material, in the composition of his works. Der Blutharsch released 7" split singles with the Italian neo-fascist bands Zetazeroalfa and Sotto Fascia Semplice and Austrian doom metal band Our Survival Depends On Us, but has also worked with the anarchist industrial band Terroritmo, now called Wakinyan. In 2004, Der Blutharsch was forced to cancel a performance in Israel after protests from members of the Israeli cabinet and Knesset, the mayor of Tel Aviv, and the Anti-Defamation League.

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Youth Parliament of Manitoba

Youth Parliament of Manitoba Inc. (YPM) is a non-partisan, non-denominational, and incorporated registered charity based in Manitoba, Canada.

Its mission is "to foster amongst the youth of Manitoba an understanding of, interest in, and engagement with the Canadian democratic parliamentary process that would enable their active participation in society as responsible citizens. In so doing, YPM strives to encourage the growth of the individual and their abilities through their exposure to a diversity of ideas and perspectives and the fellowship of their peers."

Activities
YPM's flagship event is Session, an annual model parliament that takes place from December 26 to 31 each year at the Manitoba Legislature open to all Manitoban youth aged 16 to 20. During Session, participants ("members") debate mock legislation according to parliamentary procedure as per YPM's Standing Orders. Throughout the week, members also have the opportunity to meet current and former politicians from the Manitoba Legislature and the House of Commons, partake in workshops, and socialize with fellow youth from across the province.

Every summer, YPM hosts Speaker's Night, its premier fundraising gala. Proceeds go towards supporting YPM's programming, financial aid capabilities, and operating costs. Recent keynote speakers have included Dr. Annette Trimbee, Susan Thompson, Senator Marilou McPhedran, Dr. Aimée Craft, and Wab Kinew.

YPM is a founding member of the Western Canada Youth Parliament and current Member Parliament of its successor, Canada Youth Parliament. In this capacity, it assists in the organization of, and nominates delegates to, the biennial Canada Youth Parliament.

History
In 1922, George Stewart, Lieutenant Governor of the Older Boys’ TUXIS Parliament of Manitoba, opened the first of a long line of annual sessions devoted to the development of leadership and awareness of the parliamentary system among the young men (and later, women) of Manitoba. It has since become one of the oldest Youth Parliaments in a network of similar organizations stretching across the country and the world. Although each of these Parliaments has a unique style and emphasis, all are based on the same basic principle of fostering knowledge of the parliamentary system amongst Canadian youth.

The Older Boys’ Parliament program began in Ontario as part of the TUXIS (“Training Under Christ In Service”) movement. Its original sponsors included various Protestant churches, such as the United Church of Canada, the Anglican, Baptist, Presbyterian, and Lutheran churches, the Salvation Army, and a variety of service groups such as the YMCA, De Molay and Kiwanis organizations. The movement's goal was to foster the development of the physical, mental, spiritual and social well-being of the person as inspired by the biblical passage Luke 2:52, which reads: “And Jesus increased in wisdom and in years, and in divine and human favour.” YPs, only one of many TUXIS activities, were designed for religious as well as parliamentary training. Though most YPs were at one time part of the TUXIS movement, only the TUXIS Youth Parliament of Alberta retains the name to this day.

In 1960, “TUXIS” was dropped from the name, leaving “Older Boys’ Parliament.” In 1968, it was decided that YPM would expand its focus by becoming open to youth from non-Protestant backgrounds, thereby becoming non-denominational. This meant that the Oath of Allegiance and the legislation placed before the house was no longer written for specific religious groups and with specifically religious purposes in mind.

On December 28, 1972, a special meeting of the organization was held to officially admit women as full members and to change the organization’s name to Youth Parliament of Manitoba and Northwestern Ontario (YPMNO). Previously, female members had for some years been allowed to attend session but only as associate members who did not hold the right to vote on the matters debated in the house. Seven years later, Ann Thompson became the first female Premier of YPMNO.

In celebration of its 60th anniversary in 1981, YPMNO hosted a first-of-its-kind invitational session for all YPs in Western Canada. Two years later, the Western Canada Youth Parliament (WCYP) was officially formed, with its second session being hosted again in Winnipeg in the chambers of City Council. Our organization has since hosted WCYP on three other occasions, in 1993, 2002 and most recently in 2010.

The organization successfully incorporated in 1984 and gained full charitable status. In 2003, the organization voted to shorten its name to Youth Parliament of Manitoba (YPM).

In 2007, YPM hosted its first annual Spring Session in Manitoba. In 2008, YPM hosted its first annual Speaker’s Night fundraising dinner. In 2019, it elected its first all-female Executive. In 2021, it celebrated its 100th annual Session.

Organizational structure
YPM bases its organizational structure and nomenclature on the Westminster parliamentary system. The membership structure of YPM is made up of three main components: the Executive, the Cabinet, and Backbenchers. All members of YPM are between the ages of 16 and 25.

Executive
Youth Parliament of Manitoba Inc. is governed by a five-person Executive, who legally function as the corporation's board of directors. Each person is elected for a one-year term by and from the membership on the last day of Session. All directors are volunteers between the ages of 18 and 25. The positions on the board are:
 * the Chairperson (Premier),
 * the Past-Chairperson (Speaker),
 * the Director of Finance (Deputy Speaker),
 * the vice-chairperson (Deputy Premier), and
 * the Director of Procedures (House Leader).

Cabinet
The Cabinet is YPM's volunteer organizing committee, appointed by the Executive from the members (attendees) of the previous Session. The Cabinet assists the Executive in organizing and holding Session. Current Cabinet portfolios include:

 * Ministry of Alumni Affairs
 * Ministry of Communications
 * Ministry of Defence
 * Ministry of External Affairs
 * Ministry of Government Services
 * Ministry of Human Resources
 * Ministry of Internal Affairs
 * Ministry of Labour
 * Ministry of Publications
 * Ministry of Public Relations
 * Ministry of Revenue
 * Ministry of Supply and Service
 * Registrar General
 * Whips (Armstrong and Thompson)

Backbenchers
All non-Executive and non-Cabinet members of YPM sit as Backbenchers during Session.

Lieutenant governor
Each year, the board of directors invites a distinguished member of the community (in recent years, often a former member) to act as the lieutenant governor (LG). The LG officially opens and prorogues the session, reads the Speech from the Throne, and makes a brief presentation to the membership.

Honorary president
The honorary president (HP) is a prominent citizen of Manitoba who serves as an advisor for the organization. At Session, they attend the opening and closing ceremonies.

Traditional Knowledge Keeper
The Traditional Knowledge Keeper advises the organization on reconciliation with Indigenous peoples in Manitoba. At Session, they conduct a traditional Indigenous teaching on the first and last days.

Notable alumni
Many of YPM's past members have gone on to successful careers in a variety of fields. Some of the organization's prominent past members include: By decision of the Board, former members of YPM who have made outstanding contributions to the organization are eligible to be appointed to the organization's Senate.
 * Lloyd Axworthy (former Canadian Minister of Foreign Affairs, former president and vice-chancellor of the University of Winnipeg)
 * Bill Norrie (former Mayor of Winnipeg)
 * Tom Axworthy (principal secretary to Pierre Trudeau from 1981 to 1984)
 * Robert Steen (former Mayor of Winnipeg)
 * Wally Fox-Decent (former chair of the Workers Compensation Board of Manitoba)

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Combe, Oxfordshire

Combe is a village and civil parish about 5 mi northeast of Witney in Oxfordshire. It is bounded to the south and southwest by the River Evenlode, to the northwest partly by the course of the Akeman Street Roman road and partly by a road parallel with it, and to the east by the boundary of Blenheim Great Park. The 2011 Census recorded the parish's population as 768.

Church of England
The Church of England parish church of St Laurence dates from the 12th century but was rebuilt in the late 14th century for Eynsham Abbey. Its interior has several 15th-century wall paintings, which were rediscovered during restoration work in 1892. St Laurence's is a Grade I listed building. St Laurence's bell tower has a ring of six bells, cast by John Taylor & Co of Loughborough in 1924, and a clock built by John Smith and Sons of Derby in 1948.

Methodist
Combe has had a Methodist congregation since about the 1770s, when it used to meet in a house called Wedgehook in Bolton's Lane. Three meeting houses were registered in Combe: one in East End in 1823, and two elsewhere in the village in 1827 and 1829. Combe's first Methodist chapel was a Wesleyan one built in 1835 at the eastern edge of the village. Methodism in Britain suffered a schism that led to the founding of the Wesleyan Reform Union in 1859, and as a result the congregation at Combe split.

A United Methodist Free chapel in front of a row of cottages southwest of the village green was built in 1861–63 and enlarged in 1882. In 1893 the original Wesleyan chapel at the east end of the village was rebuilt, with the 9th Duke of Marlborough laying the foundation stone. In 1932 Britain's three largest Methodist denominations merged to form what is now the Methodist Church of Great Britain. Combe's congregation united to use the Wesleyan chapel at the east end of the village. The United Free Methodist chapel near the village green was closed and is now a private house.

Economic and social history
Combe House was built in the 16th or early 17th century and extended in about 1800 or 1812. It used to be the vicarage. Combe Bridge is a stone bridge on the minor road linking the village with Long Hanborough. It spans the Evenlode where the river forms the boundary with Hanborough parish. The bridge was rebuilt in the 18th century with two arches for the river and flood arches either side.

The Duke of Marlborough's Blenheim estate adjoins the village. The estate's former sawmill, Combe Mill, is now a working museum. It was originally powered by a leat from the Evenlode that turned a breastshot water wheel. It also has a steam-powered rotative beam engine driven by a Cornish boiler, both of which were added in 1852. In 1926 the old water wheel was replaced with a more efficient Poncelet wheel. The mill is now a Grade II* listed building.

The Oxford, Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway was built along the Evenlode valley through the southern part of the parish and opened in 1852. It was operated by the Great Western Railway, which took it over in 1863. In 1935 the GWR opened Combe Halt, where the line crosses the road to Long Hanborough near the sawmill. It is now Combe railway station and the railway is the Cotswold Line. The 75th anniversary of Combe Halt's creation was celebrated with the children of Combe C of E Primary school using the line to travel to Worcester.

Amenities
Combe has a public house, the Cock Inn, that was built late in the 17th or early in the 18th century. It is beside the village green, which is the setting for four of Combe's seasonal festivals: a children's Maypole dance, a Summer Ball, a travelling funfair in the autumn and a firework display on Guy Fawkes Night. Combe has a Church of England primary school. Combe has a Women's Institute.

Public Transport
On weekdays, one train service a day calls at Combe railway station in each direction. There is an hourly bus service to Oxford and in the other direction Charlbury - which stops in Stonesfield Road.

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Talk:Shaft (1971 film)

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 * The theme song was used as a walk up song for MLB HOFer Lou Brock 2600:1700:1FF4:4CF0:34AE:8B9A:ABE8:EED1 (talk) 04:09, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

RE: the original script having Shaft be white
I apologize if I'm doing this wrong, I've never done this before, but this factoid has been debunked as an urban legend, so why's it here? Citation: https://legendsrevealed.com/entertainment/2016/07/29/was-shaft-nearly-played-by-a-white-actor-in-the-first-shaft-film/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.50.202.227 (talk) 03:45, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Spat
Vic echoes the girl's spat to Shaft, while he leaves, not while he comes in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.128.197.77 (talk) 17:03, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Blaxspoitation
Please enrich "many debate whether it actually falls under the category of blaxploitation itself" to provide details on why there is this conflict, or at least a link to a films forum discussing it. Alvis 04:25, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

 * If this is a debated term that is used by those critical of the film, should the very first sentence of the article be so casually refering "shaft is a blaxploitation film from the...." Etc? Seems like this should be written from a more NPOV, with the topic of whether it is "blaxploitation" relegated to its own section later in the article? I'm going to delete this from the summary for the time being. :96.41.68.81 (talk) 08:30, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm planning to update this section completely- by talking about race in specific. -Jaqua04 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaqua04 (talk • contribs) 11:00, May 26, 2016 (UTC)

Page move
This page was moved from "Shaft (1971 movie)" to "Shaft (1971 film)" as per the naming convention set out at Naming conventions (films) – Ianblair23 22:31, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Unfortunately, the Wikiquote entry's name wasn't changed from movie to film, so the link was pointing to a nonexistent page. I've fixed this (as far as I can tell). Naar 22:15, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

In-film bloopers and errors
Just been watching it. Call me a pedant if you want, but the way that the friction knot was rigged onto the abseil rope while setting up the hotel assault ... bad, very bad. It is possible to rig up like that using an Italian Hitch on a karabiner, but the actor fumbled and only put two turns of rope around the karabiner. Go the the back of the class, Mr Stunt Double, and more importantly plummet to the ground screaming then die.

Are "bloopers" a part of the normal Wikipedia movie description?

A Karley 00:05, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Shaft Movie.jpg
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Miscegenation???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation

When "SHAFT" was released in 1971, one of the things that caused a frisson and made it a sensation was that the woman he casually picks up at the Greenwich Village bar was Caucasian. This had never been seen before in American cinema. It was something for which a black man could have been easily lynched or imprisoned for in the South just 10 years earlier. "SHAFT", while not the best movie ever, definitely is a culturally significant movie for many reasons.Johncheverly (talk) 15:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)User:JCHeverly 19:07, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

 * Are you talking about Misogyny? If so, I am planning to update a section on how masculinity, sexuality, and misogyny are a part of this film. -jaqua04 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaqua04 (talk • contribs) 11:00, May 26, 2016 (UTC)

 * No, he is clearly talking about miscegenation. --EnOreg (talk) 14:23, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Film series
I am actually surprised there isn't already a Shaft film series page. With four films, a fifth on the way, and a TV series spin-off...this definitely needs to be made. Who's going to make the draft for the rest of us to read?.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 06:15, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Excessive links removed
In my opinion, Isaac Hayes was by far the best reason for this movie to exist. But it's ridiculous to spam the article with links to his name and reprints of his name. One link per person is enough, and only for notable people. (Hayes is absolutely notable, but not 50x more than anyone else in the world. :) ) TooManyFingers (talk) 07:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Club Atlético River Plate

River Plate's t-shirt
The River Plate's T-shirts are wrong! The third color is grey with silver withe and red. It is no longer purple Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxiperasso (talk • contribs) 19:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

User infobox
If you are a wikipedian Millonario you can put this in your user page : petnjik will look like this:

--Jor70 23:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Nice one. I shall be changing the one (*) on my user page to that now!!

(*) It is much better than this one:

♦Tangerines BFC ♦ · Talk 23:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Just wondering if the userbox could be linked to a "Wikipedians who support River Plate" category? I presume there is no such category as yet and one would need to be created if so? Just a thought ♦Tangerines BFC ♦ · Talk 23:45, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * supposly it does to Category:Wikipedian Club Atlético River Plate fans but i think is not working fine Jor70 01:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I fixed --Jor70 01:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes you seem to have fixed it as the user names are on the category now! ♦Tangerines BFC ♦ · Talk 01:41, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I may be wrong, but I believe you can't put fair use images (such as the club logo) in userboxes. WATP  14:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ops, I didnt know that!, but why flags should do ? Jor70 15:27, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Flags are ineligible for copyright, so don't come under fair use.  WATP   15:46, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, where we should check for this ? Jor70 15:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I'm not an expert by any stretch, but this seems to cover it.  WATP   15:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I've seen a number of userboxes with similar images in them, including football club logos/crests. They seem to have been retained without anyone requesting their removal. ♦Tangerines BFC ♦ · Talk 18:30, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

 * there are copyright fanatics that think the use of such logos is only excused in the club's articles ONLY. I had to create my own image for User Boca Juniors... --Mariano (t/c) 20:24, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I just do the same :-) Jor70 21:22, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Francescoli
Francescoli arrived in River during 1983... Please note. elpincha 14:35, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * yes I know but his most sucessful campaings where the "maquinita" from 1996, 1997, 1998 (the tri championship, supercopa and libertadores). I'm in doubt about where to place him. Ortega played around 1995 so if would fit in both early 1990s and late 1990s. Maybe we should list them by decade. For the time being, I'll also add Alzamendi. SpiceMan 22:16, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * The intention was to do a rough sort by date of appeareance... but hey nobody says I'm right and you're wrong. It just seems more informative this way. You can just add articles for each of the great teams... If you have the resources. Best, elpincha 22:35, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Actually, Enzo's best year might have been 1985 with Enrique, Morresi, Amuchastegui... I just added some info on Veira to the San Lorenzo de Almagro article, and it came back to me. Beautiful team... - elpincha 21:18, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The River Plate
River Plate is actually the name the English gave to the Río de la Plata.

The reasoning for the English name of the club in the article's introduction is unsourced, and seems speculative. Is there a definitive explanation for the name? phreakydancin (talk) 17:29, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

 * I just added a reference link, hopefully this answers your question. --Bocafan76 (talk) 17:40, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Somebody really screwed up that name!!! "Rio de la Plata" means "Silver River" not "Plate River." The masculine noun "el plato" means "plate;" the feminine noun "la plata" means "silver." 2600:1015:B007:50F9:A0E1:2486:2ABD:9B66 (talk) 17:16, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Claudio Caniggia
Caniggia started his career with River in the mid 80s together with Troglio and Gorosito.

Home & Away colours outdated
Check Club Atlético River Plate: Camisetas Oficiales --209.13.202.235 03:26, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Are these home and away colours below correct? yes, they are... Aguante River locooooo

Carioca 02:47, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

 * I think River is using the "All-black" away version. Here there's a picture of yesterday match. For the Local one, use "Kit body sashonwhite.png" for the stripe as yours seams to be off-place. --Marianocecowski 11:39, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Football ( Soccer )
Please be aware that in the USA football is that sport which is played with the hands. To them, the sport played with the feet is called soccer. Please don't remove the disambiguation, we don't want any confusion over this. GusCaicedo | 2006-03-03 17:42

 * The DAB is clear if you follow the link. Please see pages like Manchester United for more info. Sebastian Kessel Talk 23:24, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

a good source of news
i want to know if there is any good site that gives the latest news of Rievr Plate,it doesn`t matter what the language is.it seems to me that their official site doesn`t bring a lot of news about the team.I Am Searching 21:59, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Removing Players 31/Jul/2006
Agree with most, but I'd return Pedrito. He was very important and appreciated in the Labruna years. elpincha 12:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Two number 4
Possible? Argentinian championship make possible it?

Stadium location
It is a common misconception that the stadium is located in the Núñez barrio; it is actually in Belgrano.

I was going to ask the same question, as the Belgrano, Buenos Aires page says the ground is located there. If someone else can confirm the point, can the entries be changed? Eldumpo (talk) 20:38, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Inconsistent Pictures?
There are two pocs in this page showing Pedernera, one of 1941 and the other one from 1969. This is almost 30 years difference and Pedernera looks the same in both pics. I think there must be an error in the dates of these photographs.
 * No. The second photo is from El Gráfico magazine from 1969, but it is actually from the same period (1940s probably). (please remember to sign your comments with four tildes: ~ ). -- Alexf42 15:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation
Out of curiosity, what is the local Spanish pronunciation of "River Plate"? 24.11.127.26 (talk) 18:03, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

 * In Argentina "River Plate" is pronounce the same as in English, so in other words there is no difference, on how it's pronounce.--Bocafan76 (talk) 20:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Use of template for current squad
I see now that in the current squad section the Template:River Plate squad has been replaced with the traditional non-template squad. Issues regarding the use of these type of templates have already been discussed in the Wikiproject Football (see internal link or external link) and NO objection was raised. If there is any new objection to their inclusion now they should be presented in that forum before unilaterally deciding that there is no consensus to their use. Regards. Fache (talk) 01:22, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

"respective"?
From the introduction:

"Matches between them are known as Superclásico and is amongst the most heated rivalries in the sport due to their respective local and global popularity."

Because of the word "respective", what this sentence actually says right now is that River Plate is popular locally, while Boca Juniors is popular globally. Is the writer's intent really to say that Boca Juniors is much more popular internationally than River Plate is? Or would it better to remove the word "respective", and say that both clubs are popular both locally and globally? Binabik80 (talk) 16:42, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

 * To be fair, Boca fans claim that their team is more popular globally for all the international cups they won in the 2000s. However, the Superclásico is an important rivalry for both clubs' national and international prestige, not just one of them. Therefore, I agree to take out "respective". Fache (talk) 20:13, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

PRIMERA B
adminhelp Whoever keeps changing them to list in Primera B please stop....they haven't been relegated...yet. EricPZ (talk) 00:36, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Feel free to leave the IP a message on xyr talk page. I'm not sure what you want an administrator to do, really. It's just one IP that keeps changing the information, so it doesn't warrant page protection. I'll leave a warning, but I think that's about as much as needs to be done at this stage. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:56, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Not too familiar with what to do in these situations.  After I'd fixed it the second time, I figured it best to bring in reinforcements. ;) EricPZ (talk) 01:03, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You can use the templates at WP:WARN to warn the IP on xyr talk page. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:06, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

 * The article s semiprotected at this moment, only registered users may change it. In some hours, when we have the definitive result, the references to the current league will be updated, or not. Cambalachero (talk) 15:22, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Head coach section...
Simeone has not been River's Head Coach for years.... Please update. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.139.145.21 (talk) 12:33, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Nicknames
Someone keeps posting RiBer Plate, and it is then removed, but the truth is that it is now a common nickname for the team. More importantly, although "Gallinas" is listed in the body of the article, it is not listed in the infobox. Given that the majority of fans in Argentina are not River Plate fans, River is more commonly referred to as the "Gallinas" than they are as los Millonarios or la Banda Roja. Is it wikipedia convention only to use the positive nicknames in the infobox? Dawindler (talk) 06:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC) RiBer is a despective nickname becouse the relegation. Also is Gallinas ( is for the Supportes not for the team ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.103.196.5 (talk) 00:02, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Titles
River has five official international titles. Link: The official website of River Plate http://www.cariverplate.com/el-club (in spanish)
 * Outdated, see this page, it's correct to say that the club won six Conmebol-FIFA international titles per sources, while the first team won five (as reflected in the article which is clear in describing the latest cup as under-20). This 2011 reference also describes the U-20 Libertadores as an international official title. And please, don't remove sourced info as you did in your last edits.--Darius (talk) 03:20, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Dropping to Primera B in 2011
This seems to be an incredibly notable event yet it is not discussed anywhere in the article. In the spanish wikipedia they have an entire article devoted to this. Should we not have at least a small paragraph mentioning this and how big of a deal it was? Here's the article in spanish: Hamsterlopithecus (talk) 00:00, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

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Category name unification
Article name is Club Atlético River Plate. But Some category names are including River Plate, Some category names are including Club Atlético River Plate.
 * Category:River Plate
 * Category:River Plate footballers
 * Category:Club Atlético River Plate templates
 * Category:Club Atlético River Plate seasons

Are there any reasons? If there aren't any reasons, How about unifying article name and category name and How about a unification of category names? Footwiks (talk)
 * Likewise with the Boca Juniors categories, these need unifying I believe. Club Atlético River Plate the suitable one? R96Skinner (talk) 15:20, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Probably English speaker users prefer common name. I don't care either Club Atlético River Plate or River Plate. But I want unification.Footwiks (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:05, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

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