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Talk:1920s

Adding "Radio" to the collage
Household radio was a key technological change of the 1920s which completely changed the daily life. It should be represented in the collage of images in the top-right.

Roaring 20s
Shouldn't "Roaring 20s" have its own article? While it does refer to a decade, it refers to a particular and significant point of view about it. - Furry 03:22, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC) in the 1920s people have fun↔
 * I agree. Also, this Wikipedia article is nearly a photocopy of http://encyclopedia.calendarhome.com/1920s.htm, as well as http://www.thewordbook.com/1920s...  Does it annoy anyone else that someone has pretty much just copied and pasted from those two pages to make this article?

 * Yes it annoys me. it is still info but even so....--DPG 16:35, 3 July 2006 (UTC)DPG

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Needs to be made international
While the national leaders section is well done, the sports figures and the entertainers seem overwhelmingly to be in the USA. Articles shouldn't be merged because some people need specific information and it is easier to find it in smaller articles.

Women's suffrage
I have removed the the women's suffrage entry, as it only applies to the US. Whilst this is clearly an important event, the same thing happened in most/all democracies over a number of decades, so I don't think this page is the appropriate place for it. Remember Wikipedia is not about the US alone. --Lancevortex 11:31, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

 * So were other things I inserted phenomena which occurred in the U.S.: organized crime, the first commercial radio station in P'burg.  You needn't remind me that Wikipedia is global.  The notion that it is not noteworthy because it happened in the U.S. is ludicrous.  So did a lot of events already noted on the page.  The remedy is for people with information about significant developments elsewhere to make contributions -- not to delete contributions simply on the basis that they occurred in the U.S.  If that were the case, much of this article would be nonexistent. Reverted, w/additional information. deeceevoice 15:04, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

... what did you expect from a free encyclopedia where people can make changes and add their own interesting information to it that may or may not be true. take it with a grain of salt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.23.1.203 (talk) 21:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I apologise for the patronising way I made my original comment, but I still disagree with you. If the US was the first country to have women's suffrage, then fair enough, it would be worthy of inclusion here. But it wasn't, and it means that in theory these decade articles will have hundreds (one for each democracy in the world) of entries for when each country got women's suffrage. Extrapolate this across all the other topics worthy of consideration and the pages will become unreadable masses of trivial information. They should just cover the most significant events that have made a major difference to the world. Of course, this means that certainly for the last couple of centuries, the US will have more entries than most countries, but in my opinion that doesn't mean that every event that happened in the US should be covered here.

 * You completely misunderstand when you caricature my position as an event being "not noteworthy because it happened in the U.S." -- you make it sound like I think all references to the U.S. should be expunged from Wikipedia. My position is that an event is not noteworthy just because it happened in the U.S. --Lancevortex 10:40, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Having just looked at your amendment to the entry, I think it is now a lot more satisfactory. Thanks. --Lancevortex 10:42, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

I have a sugestion, most of this article only includes information about what happened in the US. Perhaps, instead of organizing this site around topic (most of which are from the US, and the ones that aren't are too vague) organize by country or region and anything that is redundant with other pages should be shortened and a link should be added to the appropriate page. For example, much is this article is redundant with the roaring twenties article. Instead of removing these parts of the article entirely, they should simply be shortened and then a link should be added to the roaring twentties article. This is what should be done with the section about women gaining the right to vote in the US.

It might improve this article to have some sort of connection to the decade in the description of the Big Bang picture. seventhtrilogy 16:50, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

It is next to a section describing the first theory of an expanding universe and the picture describes the birth of an expanding universe and directly tells so in the caption. What more connection to the decade is needed? User:Dimadick

1920's in the United States
This article does very little to make it clear that in the USA (and partially in some other countries) the 1920's was the period of maximum respectability for "modern" or "scientific" racist views, which were rather widespread -- this was the period when Eugenics really began to gather steam, when the WW1 army intelligence test results received wide publicity, when the KKK achieved broad political influence in many areas (and not only in the former Confederate states, either), and when the rather openly-racist restrictions against immigration into the US were passed into law. See Nadir of American race relations and Franz Boas for some of this. AnonMoos 04:54, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree.

Crime During the 1920s
This article is missing a big element. I think organized crime was an extremely important element during the 1920s. (At least in the USA) 68.248.248.254 13:46, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Social issues of the 1920s
I'm trying to repair Social issues of the 1920s so that it provides a more specific insight to the issues about the 1920s. I was thinking of merging it with this article, but then I realized that this article seems to be more of a general account of various events and whatnot. Should they be merged?-- The  i  kiro  id  (talk) (Help Me Improve) 01:12, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that there should be separate articles. This article should have bullet points about social issues, and a link to the main article. Kevin 02:35, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

What about reorganizing/breaking things down differently?
I think it would be great to have a "section" on each decade with a general overview of that decade, and then have "sub-sections" that could cover Social Issues, Politics, Entertainment, Sports and etc. Smaller "bites" of info that might be easier to navigate through, easier to find exactly what various people are looking for. -Annie Mouse

Missing Elements
In the section labeled "Events and Trends" the article doesn't talk about any trends at all, which I think is one part of the 1920's that a researcher would want to know about. I know for sure that I did. Also, I think the "Events and Trends" section could expand on the events, as it only lists political events.

It used to annoy me somewhat that this article seems to have been copied and pasted from other 1920's articles, but I guess the author had to have gotten his/her information somewhere... is that legal?Chavila 19:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Um...I think it should go under Social issues of the 1920s. What does anyone else think?--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 01:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I think it should go there, too... it seems to fit. Chavila 04:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

 * What really bothers me is that the whole intro is copied from http://www.thewordbook.com/1920s and then that site is never credited. That definately isn't legal. Can anyone fix this? This is even more ironic because while I'm writing this, at the bottom of the Wikipedia edit page, it says: "Only public domain resources can be copied without permission—this does not include most web pages or images." (zanycire)

title
THis article should be more accurately titled 1920s in the United States of America

Automobiles
Shouldn't it say that automobiles became common and popular in the 1920s? Because it's true that it was when they became popular, wasn't it? 68.124.133.161, 68.124.133.161, 02:05, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Depends on what country you're talking about and how you define common and popular. Certainly they became much more widespread in this decade, but that was in part a continuation of a trend started with popular mass production of cars in the 1910s. See History of the automobile for more. -- Infrogmation (talk) 03:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Any mention of automobiles should be part of a much larger section on Science and Technology! This was an era of huge innovation in all kinds of areas - quantum mechanics and the attendent revolution in atomic theory (including a lot of important work that lead up to the dawn of the atomic age in the '40s), developments in genetics and evolutionary theory, major achievements in engineering (including the first mass-produced cars, of course), the first semiconductors...well, loads of stuff really. I might even write it myself at some point! —Preceding unsigned comment added by OliverHarris (talk • contribs) 16:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, need this for history project
DBQ question: What made the 1920s different from any other decade?

Document A: “Since the 1920s was a time of celebration, there were many fads. People loved to dance, especially the Charleston, Fox-trot, and the shimmy. Dance marathons were something everyone went to every weekend. The longest dance record ever recorded was a record of 3 weeks of dancing. Another fad of the 1920's was the radio. People "tuned" in every day to listen to music, as jazz, sports and live events. A favorite for listening to jazz was "the king of jazz", Louie Armstrong. The latest fashion fad was the flapper, a fad for women. The movie was also the latest thing. The start of 3-D movies was in the 1920's. The average American had a lot to look forward to, in the 1920's, that’s for sure!” (http://www.kidsnewsroom.org/elmer/infoCentral/frameset/decade/1920.htm - Fads of the 1920s). Think: What does this remind you of compared to today’s decade.

Document B: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.155.200.88 (talk) 16:37, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

yes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.172.238.251 (talk) 01:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

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The selection of notable events in the montage
We need to reach a consensus on the final selection of images included in the 1920s montage on the top of the page through a discussion (and not through edit wars) which would include (hopefully) many Wikipedians.

The current montage is composed of the following images:

Please share your opinion on this matter BELOW supplying reasons for or against the current images included and/or supply alternative suggestions. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 20:00, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Changes which need to be made:

 * The Shangtang.jpg image was actually taken in 1945 (check the description of the image).
 * With all respect to Babe Ruth, the Babe Ruth2.jpg image is too US-centric to be in the montage.

Please propose other images to replace them before you make any changes TheCuriousGnome (talk) 19:20, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Well, maybe put in this image for the Chinese Civil War
 * The Chinese Civil War is not unique to the 1920s though - Encirclement Campaigns happened between April 1927 - December 1936, Intermittent clashes happened between January 1941 - July 1945 and Full-scale war happend between March 1946 - May 1950! Maybe we should add this image to the 1940s article/montage though. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 05:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Babe Ruth came from America, like most baseball players come from, but he was famous other places around the world too. Just because they are from America, doesn't just mean it's U.S.-centric. CatJar (talk) 04:50, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Baseball is a very U.S.-centric sport. besides, I still insist that the images in the montage should be of the most influential events of each decade and not of the most influential celebrities/international icons of the decade. Does anyone else besides CatJar believe we should add the image of Babe Ruth to the montage anyway? TheCuriousGnome (talk) 05:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Montage caption
I want to mention, the text underneath the montage needs to be corrected between the Charles Lindbergh and Stock Market Crash segments. All I see are two backwards brackets "]]". Thanks. 24.113.41.52 (talk) 20:37, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Babe Ruth
Why is he in the opening collage of the 20's? Nobody outside the USA knew who he was regardless of his fame over there, especially as baseball is not played significantly outside the US. He should be mentioned in this article perhaps but he is nowhere near important enough to be included in the opening series of pictures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.29.89.26 (talk) 17:07, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

What Dates Constitute the 1920's?
I question the opening sentence of the article. As the Wikipedia article "Decade" states: "Because the common calendar starts with year 1, its first full decade is the years 1 to 10, the second decade from 11 to 20, and so on.[5] So while the "2000s" comprises the years 2000 to 2009, the "201st decade" spans 2001 to 2010."

Therefore the decade of the 1920's began on January 1, 1921 and ended on December 31, 1930.

WBcoleman (talk) 00:35, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2016
Queen Elizabeth, Queen of the United Kingdom (1926) Prince Philip, Prince Consort of the United Kingdom (1921) Nancy Reagan, Former First Lady of the United States (1921 - 2016) Betty White (1922) Martin Luther King (1929-1968) George Bush, Former President of the United States (1921) Jimmy Carter,Former President of the United States (1921)

92.28.78.123 (talk) 17:47, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Declined – please clearly state the changes you think should be made so that other editors know exactly what to change. 97198 (talk) 12:20, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi protection needed?
Why is this article semi protected? Every other article of the 1900s is not semi protected, so why is this one? Please remove it, thanks. - PolarBearTony — Preceding unsigned comment added by PolarBearTony (talk • contribs) 21:00, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

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Babe Ruth
Tell me this random guy only received center place in the montage because you guys were unable to choose from the zillions of famous people and events the Twenties have gifted us with.
 * Discovery of Tutankhamun's tomb.
 * Gandhi's movement.
 * Picasso.
 * End of the Ottoman Empire.
 * Fleming's discovery of penicillin.
 * Independence of Egypt.
 * Birth of Yugoslavia.
 * Bauhaus architecture.

Or if it's mandatory that 1/3 of the images have to be American, then
 * The Jazz Singer, the first feature-length movie.
 * Mickey Mouse.
 * Flapper culture.
 * The jazz age.
 * The Great Gatsby.
 * Harlem Renaissance.

Can we please change this image. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:1110:118:A377:15E1:DBE0:6326:5D9C (talk) 23:00, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Reasons for emergence of Pilsudski
"Economic problems contributed to the emergence of dictators in Eastern Europe to include Józef Piłsudski in Poland"

This is untrue. World War I, and weakness of the neighbouring countries, resulted in Poland gaining independence in 1918, after being partitioned by Russia, Prussia and Austria in 1795. This is how Piłsudski became the leader and dictator of now independent Poland. This was a fight of the nation for freedom against neighbouring monarchies, not a switch from democracy to dictatorship.

See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Poland 83.57.69.0 (talk) 13:10, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

 * Fair point. I have rephrased it to "Further dictators that emerged included Józef Piłsudski in Poland, and Peter and Alexander Karađorđević in Yugoslavia.". Koopinator (talk) 20:33, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Collage
It appears an RFC on collages on Wikiproject years will be interpreted to also ban collages in decade articles. Users here may wish to participate. Koopinator (talk) 07:26, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

20's name updated?
The 1920's and 2020's are both called the 20's. shouldn't the 1920's just be called the roaring 20's now? 2001:56A:7204:9E00:41CF:49B7:E94E:8390 (talk) 01:35, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Charles Lindbergh
While Charles Lindbergh flying across the Atlantic was an event in the 1920s, it is not science and so should not be in that section. Trentperson 12:18, 9 June 2024
 * Agree, no new science was used, just an adaptation of existing technology, so moved to that section. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 14:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The International Surrealist Movement

The International Surrealist Movement
I can well believe that there's an international surrealist movement, but is there an International Surrealist Movement? An organization by that name appears to have organized an exhibition in 1978. Then, as this article notes, somebody used that name as the alleged sponsor of a denunciation of Bush in 2003. My only hesitation about listing this article is that, seeing how everybody (including me) went to town with International Caps Lock Day, I dread all the comments trying to be surrealistic. I vote a down-to-earth Delete. JamesMLane 03:24, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * The fish swims through my veins, screaming delete. Tuf-Kat 14:23, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)

 * What the heck? This was previously VfD'd and previously debated and voted upon.  That wasn't listed here, and there is no VfD debate in its talk page, and there is no sign of deletion in its history, and this nomination didn't bring up the previous delete.  What the hell is going on?  Delete the article.  Had a previous deletion shown up in the history, I'd have speedy deleted for recreation of deleted material, but, since the history of the last VfD debate seems to be missing for some ODD reason, I can't be sure of the vote count.  By the way, in a case like this, I don't have to offer up reasons for deleting the article. Geogre 16:23, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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OBC

OBC may refer to:

Music

 * Original Broadway Cast, a category of cast recording
 * Obscured by Clouds, a 1972 soundtrack album by Pink Floyd
 * Barcelona Symphony and Catalonia National Orchestra (Orquestra Simfònica de Barcelona i Nacional de Catalunya)

Sports

 * Oceania Badminton Confederation
 * Olympiacos Basketball Club, widely known as Olympiacos BC, in Greece

Organisations

 * OBC (secret society), at the University of North Carolina at Asheville
 * Open Bible Churches
 * Order of British Columbia, a Canadian decoration
 * Oriental Bank of Commerce, a defunct bank in India
 * Osaka Broadcasting Corporation
 * Osservatorio Balcani e Caucaso, an Italian think tank
 * Ottmar Beckman Cars AB
 * Original Bowling Company, now Hollywood Bowl Group, a UK bowling centre operator

Other

 * Officer Basic Course, in the U.S. Army
 * Organic and Biomolecular Chemistry, a scientific journal
 * Ormond-by-the-Sea, Florida, in Volusia County
 * Other Backward Class, a socio-economic designation used by the Indian government
 * Online Branding Company
 * Ocean bottom cables, used for reflection seismology in oil and gas exploration
 * Ontario Building Code, a version of the National Building Code of Canada
 * Onboard charger, used in electric vehicles

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Majipoor Chronicles

Majipoor Chronicles is a collection of ten stories (five short stories, three novelettes and two novellas) by Robert Silverberg, published in 1982. The stories are all part of the Majipoor series.

Plot summary
The stories involving a young man reviewing memory records of other people, as a framing device.

Contents

 * "Prologue"
 * Stories:
 * "Thesme and the Ghayrog" (1982), novelette
 * "The Time of the Burning" (1982), short story
 * "In the Fifth Year of the Voyage" (1981), novelette
 * "Calintane Explains" (1982), short story
 * "The Desert of Stolen Dreams" (1981), novella
 * "The Soul Painter and the Shapeshifter" (1981), novelette
 * "Crime and Punishment" (1982), short story
 * "Among the Dream-Speakers" (1982), short story
 * "A Thief in Ni-Moya" (1981), novella
 * "Voriax and Valentine" (1982), short story
 * "Epilogue"

Reception
Dave Langford reviewed Majipoor Chronicles for White Dwarf #48, and stated that "Pleasant and highly competent, they never quite engage the emotions they should."

Reviews

 * Review by Jeff Frane (1982) in Locus, #254 March 1982
 * Review by Baird Searles (1982) in Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine, August 1982
 * Review by Ian Watson (1982) in Foundation, #26 October 1982
 * Review by Nigel Richardson (1983) in Vector 114
 * Review by Chris Amies (1992) in Vector 166

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Valentine Pontifex

Valentine Pontifex is a novel by Robert Silverberg published in 1983.

Plot summary
Valentine Pontifex is a novel in which the Metamorphs try to drive people from their native world of Majipoor by spreading ecological hazards.

Reception
Dave Langford reviewed Valentine Pontifex for White Dwarf #56, and stated that "Readers will remain in any agony of suspense unless they've cheated by reading the book's title. Not many surprises, then; but if you liked the previous two you probably won't be disappointed."

Reviews

 * Review by Debbie Notkin (1983) in Locus, #274 November 1983
 * Review by Darrell Schweitzer (1984) in Science Fiction Review, Spring 1984
 * Review [French] by Élisabeth Vonarburg (1984) in Solaris, #56
 * Review by Ken Lake (1984) in Vector 122
 * Review by Tom Easton (1985) in Analog Science Fiction/Science Fact, June 1985

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MGR-1 Honest John

The MGR-1 Honest John rocket was the first nuclear-capable surface-to-surface rocket in the United States arsenal. Originally designated Artillery Rocket XM31, the first unit was tested on 29 June 1951, with the first production rounds delivered in January 1953. Its designation was changed to M31 in September 1953. The first Army units received their rockets by year's end and Honest John battalions were deployed in Europe in early 1954. Alternatively, the rocket was capable of carrying an ordinary high-explosive warhead weighing 1500 lb.

History and development
Developed at Redstone Arsenal, Alabama, the Honest John was a large but simple fin-stabilized, unguided artillery rocket weighing 5820 lb in its initial M31 nuclear-armed version. Mounted on the back of a truck, the rocket was aimed in much the same way as a cannon and then fired up an elevated ramp, igniting four small spin rockets as it cleared the end of the ramp. The M31 had a range of 15.4 mi with a 20 kiloton nuclear warhead and was also capable of carrying a 1500 lb conventional warhead. The M31 system included a truck-mounted, unguided, solid-fueled rocket transported in three separate parts. The Honest John was assembled in the field before launch, mounted on an M289 launcher, and aimed and fired in about 5 minutes. The rocket was originally outfitted with a W7 nuclear warhead, with a variable yield of up to 20 ktonTNT; in 1959, a W31 warhead with three variants was deployed with yields of 2, 10 or 30 kt (8.4, 41.8 or 125.5 TJ). There was a W31 variant of 20 ktonTNT used exclusively for the Nike Hercules anti-aircraft system. The M31 had a range between 5.5 and 24.8 km.

Early tests exhibited more scatter on target than was acceptable when carrying conventional payloads. Development of an upgraded Honest John, M50, was undertaken to improve accuracy and extend range. The size of the fins was greatly reduced to eliminate weathercocking. Increased spin was applied to restore the positive stability margin that was lost when fin size was reduced. The improved M50, with the smaller fins and more "rifling", had a maximum range of 30+ miles with a scatter on target of only 250 yd, demonstrating an accuracy approaching that of tube artillery. The Honest John was manufactured by the Douglas Aircraft Company of Santa Monica, California.

In the 1960s, sarin nerve gas cluster munitions were also available, designed to be interchangeable for use with either the Honest John or MGM-5 Corporal. Initially the M79 (E19R1) GB cluster warhead, containing 356 M134 (E130R1) bomblets for the M31A1C Honest John. The production model was the M190 (E19R2) GB cluster warhead, containing 356 M139 (E130R2) bomblets when the M31A1C was phased out in favor of the XM50 Honest John. Under nominal conditions it had an mean area of effect of 0.9 square kilometers.

Variants
The two basic versions of Honest John were:
 * MGR-1A (M31) was 8.30 m long, had an engine diameter of 22+7/8 in, a warhead diameter of 30 in, a fin span of 2.77 m, weighed 2640 kg (nuclear), and had a range of 5.5 - 24.8 km. The Hercules Powder Company M6 solid-fueled rocket motor was 16 ft long, weighed 3937 lb, and had 441 kN thrust.

 * MGR-1B (M50) was 7.92 m long, had an engine diameter of 22.8 in, a warhead diameter of 30 in, a fin span of 1.37 m, weighed 1960 kg (nuclear), and had a maximum range of 48 km, practically twice that of the M31. An improved propellant formulation gave the rocket motor 666 kN thrust.

Production and deployment
Production of the MGR-1 variants finished in 1965, with a total production run of more than 7,000 rockets. The Honest John's bulbous nose and distinctive truck-mounted launch ramp made it an easily recognized symbol of the Cold War at army bases worldwide and National Guard armories in the U.S.. Even though it was unguided and the first U.S. nuclear ballistic missile, it had a longer service life than all other U.S. ballistic missiles except the Minuteman system. The system was replaced with the MGM-52 Lance missile in 1973, but was deployed with the National Guard units in the United States as late as 1983. Conventionally armed Honest Johns remained in the arsenals of Greece, Turkey and South Korea until at least the late 1990s.

By the time the last Honest Johns were withdrawn from Europe in the late 1980s (and replaced by the unguided M-26 artillery rocket), the rocket had served with the military forces of Belgium, Britain, Canada, Denmark (non-nuclear), France, Germany, Greece, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway (non-nuclear), South Korea, Taiwan (non-nuclear), and Turkey.

Name origin
In late 1950, Major General Holger Toftoy was a colonel overseeing the development of the rocket. The project was in danger of cancellation "on the grounds that such a large unguided rocket could not possibly have had the accuracy to justify further funds." On a trip to White Sands Missile Range, Toftoy met a Texan man who was prone to making unbelievable statements. Whenever anyone expressed doubt about the man's claims, he would respond, "Why, around these parts, I'm called 'Honest John!'" Because the project was being questioned, Toftoy felt that the nickname was appropriate for the rocket and suggested the name to his superiors.

Support vehicles

Vehicles used with the Honest John platform:
 * M33 trailer, launcher,
 * M46 truck, heating and tie down unit (G744)
 * M289 truck, rocket launcher, (M139 truck) (G744),
 * M329 trailer, rocket transporter, (G821)
 * M386 Truck, Rocket, 762 mm, short launch rail, 5-ton (M139 truck)
 * M405 handling unit, trailer mounted,
 * M465 cart assembly, transport, 762 mm rocket,

Surviving examples
Canada
 * CFB Petawawa Military Museum, CFB Petawawa, Petawawa, Ontario.
 * The Central Museum of The Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery, Shilo Manitoba
 * Outdoor Display of 2 Warheads, Canadian Forces Logistics Training Center Ammo School, CFB Borden, Borden, Ontario.

Denmark
 * The Royal Danish Arsenal Museum

Netherlands
 * The National Military Museum

United Kingdom
 * Imperial War Museum Duxford
 * Royal Air Force Museum

United States
 * 3rd Cavalry Museum, 1st Cav Museum, Fort Hood, Texas
 * 45th Infantry Museum, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
 * Air Force Space & Missile Museum, Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida
 * American Armoured Foundation, Inc. Tank & Ordnance War Memorial Museum, Danville, Virginia
 * Bedford, Indiana, displayed outside a military surplus store, at the southwest corner of US-50/IN-37 and IN-450.
 * Camp Atterbury Military Museum, Camp Atterbury, Indiana.
 * Carolinas Aviation Museum, Charlotte, North Carolina (Two missiles are on display – both came from the Florence Air & Missile Museum)
 * Crestwood, Illinois, on display at municipal park.
 * Combat Air Museum, Topeka, Kansas
 * Fort Lewis Museum, Fort Lewis, Washington
 * Field Artillery Museum, Fort Sill, Oklahoma
 * National Atomic Museum, Kirtland AFB, Albuquerque, New Mexico
 * Rock Island Arsenal, Arsenal Island, between Iowa and Illinois
 * Texas Military Forces Museum at Camp Mabry, Austin, Texas
 * Underwood Public School, Underwood, Minnesota.
 * United States Space & Rocket Center, Huntsville, Alabama
 * Yuma Proving Ground, Yuma, Arizona
 * Milledgeville High School, Milledgeville, Illinois (home of the Milledgeville Missiles)
 * Miami Central High School Miami, Florida Home of the "ROCKETS".
 * A.C. Reynolds High School Asheville, North Carolina Home of the "ROCKETS".
 * Outdoor display, Spokane, Washington – southwest corner of Sanson and Market in Hillyard neighborhood
 * Outdoor display, St. Albans Roadside Park, St. Albans, West Virginia
 * Outdoor display, White Sands Missile Range Museum, New Mexico
 * Neenah High School, Neenah, Wisconsin
 * Outdoor display, M50 from 6th Bn 112th FA on display at the Armory in Cape May Courthouse, Cape May, New Jersey.
 * Outdoor display, Hull Street Outlet Inc., Richmond, Virginia.
 * Outdoor display, Trumann Middle School, Trumann, Arkansas

Former operators
Used in various Corps and Divisional artillery units (75, 3, 20 and 14th Artillery Battalions) from 1960 to 1978. Replaced by Lance missile.
 * Belgian Army
 * Belgian Army
 * Canadian Army
 * Canadian Army

Canada adopted the MGR-1B with the 1-kiloton W31 warhead. Four units were assigned to 1 Surface to Surface Missile Battery, Royal Canadian Artillery at Hemer, Germany under 4 CIBG. Two to four units were supplied to 2 SSM Battery at CFB Shilo in Manitoba for training. These units were formed in September 1960. 1SSM maintained very high readiness and able to deploy to firing positions quickly. Their ability to maintain camouflage kept even elite NATO special forces from locating them in exercises. 1SSM was authorized to wear the black scarf of the Congreve rocket gunners. Canada disbanded the Honest John batteries in mid-1970 without replacement.
 * Royal Danish Army
 * French Army
 * Corps Artillery
 * 301st Artillery Group [Battalion] (1959–1970) – absorbed into 50th Artillery Regiment
 * 50th Artillery Regiment (1970–1976)
 * 302nd Artillery Group [Battalion] (1959–1970) – absorbed into 60th Artillery Regiment
 * 60th Artillery Regiment (1970–1975)
 * 303rd Artillery Group [Battalion] (1960–1970) – absorbed into 3rd Artillery Regiment
 * 3rd Artillery Regiment (1970–1973)
 * Divisional Artillery
 * 3rd Group, 32nd Artillery Regiment (1962–1974)
 * 3rd Group, 68th Artillery Regiment (1960–1973)
 * Nuclear Security
 * 351st Artillery Group (1962–1970) – expanded to 351st Artillery Regiment
 * 351st Artillery Regiment (1970–1975)
 * German Army
 * Hellenic Army
 * Italian Army
 * Republic of Korea Army
 * Norwegian Army (1961–65)
 * Hellenic Army
 * Italian Army
 * Republic of Korea Army
 * Norwegian Army (1961–65)
 * Republic of Korea Army
 * Norwegian Army (1961–65)
 * Norwegian Army (1961–65)
 * Royal Netherlands Army
 * 🇹🇼 Taiwan
 * Republic of China Army
 * Turkish Army - in service with 420th, 450th, 490th, and 550th Battalions, 1963.
 * British Army - 24 Missile Regiment RA 1960/61 - 1977; 39 Missile Regiment RA; 50 Missile Regiment Royal Artillery, both 8" inch towed, two batteries, and two batteries Honest John.
 * United States Army
 * United States Marine Corps
 * British Army - 24 Missile Regiment RA 1960/61 - 1977; 39 Missile Regiment RA; 50 Missile Regiment Royal Artillery, both 8" inch towed, two batteries, and two batteries Honest John.
 * United States Army
 * United States Marine Corps
 * United States Marine Corps

Models
Meccano Ltd. U.K. in its Dinky Toys range produced a model of the International Harvester Honest John missile launcher under the reference 665.

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Gordon Gibson Sr.

James Gordon Gibson (November 28, 1904 – July 17, 1986 ), often referred to as Gordon Gibson Sr., was a Canadian business leader and politician based in British Columbia. He represented Lillooet from 1953 until his defeat in a byelection in 1955 and North Vancouver from 1960 to 1966 in the Legislative Assembly of British Columbia as a Liberal.

Gibson was a millionaire timber baron whose nickname was "Bull of the Woods" due to his loud lumberjack's voice. He was dismissed as a rough, hard-drinking logger who had made it rich, but was loved by many small loggers as being one of the few people to be interested in them over the interests of big business.

Biography
Gibson was born at Gold Bottom Creek near Dawson City, Yukon. His father was working a small mining claim while his mother was the camp cook. The claim failed and according to Gordon, he and his brother Clarke were taken out of the Yukon in an orange crate. In the 1920s, he and his brothers ran the Gibson Lumber and Shingle Company. During the Depression, they were active around Vancouver Island, Vancouver and Seattle. The Gibson brothers built a $4,000,000 sawmill business starting at Nootka Sound on the west coast of Vancouver Island. They had more than 40 boats working the Inside Passage including the five masted 2,000 ton bald headed schooner, the Malahat, and the five-masted schooner K.V. Kruse. The Gibson family also owned a radio station in North Vancouver and a whaling station at Coal Harbour. Gibson ended up with a 132-foot pleasure boat called the Norsal which he renamed the Maui Lu (after his first wife, Louise) and sailed it to his resort on Maui. At his resort, Gibson had a totem pole which he had arranged to fly out from Nootka Sound to Maui. At its base was an inscription written in concrete that claimed that it was the first totem pole to fly the Pacific. Gordon took his grandson Mark on the voyage from Vancouver to Maui to give him an experience where the eleven day cruise was full of excitement and adventure. Pete Lovick and Alistair Mellander came along who looked after the engines that almost failed and looked after the course to get the Maui Lui to Hawaii. Everyone learned from Gordon's stories from the Roberts Summers issue and the love Gordon had for British Columbia, He was a great Canadian and loved his country.

Political career
He was one of four MLAs who managed to get elected in the June 9, 1953 election when the Liberals received 23% of the vote. In the Lillooet riding, Gibson received 27.63% on the first count (in a preferential ballot) but on the third and final count edged out CCF rival Gordon Dowding with 51.93%.

In 1967, Gibson was appointed a member of the Northwest Territories Council.

Family
In 1971, he married Ms. Gertrude Schneider and together they ran a hotel on Maui with a restaurant that was very popular.

Gordon Gibson died of lung cancer in 1986.

His son, Gordon Gibson Jr. led the provincial Liberals in the 1970s and carried on to become a prominent political commentator. His daughter, Louanne, raised her family in California and Guatemala before returning to B.C.

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Gallery road

The archaeological Gallery Roads were routes traversing remote mountainous regions of China. The roads were fashioned using wooden planks securely fastened within holes carved into cliff sides. Primarily found in the Qin Mountains, they connected the Wei River and the Han River valleys. The first gallery roads were built during the Warring States period (476–221 BC) and used by Qin to invade Shu and Ba. They were fully consolidated into a thriving network during the Han dynasty. Before the 20th century, very primitive versions were used in the western gorges of the Pamir Mountains.

Introduction
Gallery Roads, Cliff Roads or Plank Roads are notable engineering accomplishments in ancient Chinese history. These infrastructures were predominantly constructed to ease transportation across cliffs in rugged mountainous areas. The Shu Road serves as a prime illustration, traversing some of China's most rugged and desolate terrains, including the Qinling and Daba Mountain ranges. Functioning as a crucial link between the Wei River valley and the ancient capital of Chang'an, this road employed the plank road technique to secure pathways across cliffs and steep ravines.

The construction of gallery roads was tailored to the specific topographical features of the surrounding terrain, resulting in unique structural implementations. The most prevalent type of gallery road is a wooden plank road anchored to cliffs using holes and wooden piles, subsequently covered with wooden boards. An alternative method involved carving stone roads directly into cliff faces.

Modern reconstructions of gallery roads incorporate materials like steel and stone to improve durability. Additionally, specific sections feature glass components aimed at attracting tourists.

Shudao
Shudao is the general name of the historic road that was constructed through the Qinling, Micang and Daba mountainous barrier. The main function of the Shudao is to connect the Wei River valley (today's Guan Zhong) with the ancient capital Chang’An (today's Xi’An) in the north with Shu (today's Chengdu) in the south. The Shu Roads pass through some of the most rugged and desolate terrains in China. The first major highways were most likely built in the Warring States (481–221 BCE) period. During the Qin (221–206 BCE) and Han (206 BCE – 220 CE) dynasties, this road network was massively improved upon. For the most part, the roads were built through natural corridors which had already been established as travel routes by their inhabitants. To build these important paths along the steep and dangerous cliff, the builders used the innovative road-building technique known as "Gallery Road" to fix the roads on the rock walls and cross the mountains, rivers and valleys.

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Blud

Blud (Russian, Ukrainian: Блуд), one of the Slavic fairies in Slavic mythology, is an evil-deity that causes disorientation and leads a person aimlessly around and round. The term also refers to illicit fornication, the desire for which Slavic clerics claimed to come from the Devil.

Blud in the Russian language means: debauchery, adultery and deviation from the straight path in the literal and figurative sense.

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Hanzhong

Hanzhong (abbreviation: Han) is a prefecture-level city in the southwest of Shaanxi province, China, bordering the provinces of Sichuan to the south and Gansu to the west.

The founder of the Han dynasty, Liu Bang, was once enfeoffed as the king of the Hanzhong region after overthrowing the Qin dynasty. During the Chu-Han contention, Liu Bang shortened his title to the King of Han (漢王), and later used it as the name of his imperial dynasty. In this way, Hanzhong was responsible for the naming of the Han dynasty, which was later hailed as the first golden age in imperial Chinese history and lends its name to the principal ethnic group in China.

Hanzhong is located at the modern headwater of the Han River, the largest tributary of the Yangtze River. Hanzhong city covers 27,246 sqkm and is centered around the Hantai District. The prefecture-level city consists of two urban district and nine rural counties. As of the 2020 census, its population was 3,211,462, of whom 1,084,448 lived in the built-up (or metro) area made of Hantai and Nanzheng districts.

Pre-Qin dynasty (before 220 BC)
There are few references to Hanzhong before the Qin dynasty's unification of China in 221 BC. The Book of Documents refers to an area called Liangzhou (梁州), while Sima Qian's book Records of the Grand Historian speaks of a "Bao state" (褒國, where the ancient beauty Bao Si came from), both of which are believed to refer to the area now called Hanzhong.

From 900 BC, the area has been called Nanzheng. The ancient geographical treatise entitled Shui Jing Zhu records that Duke Huan of Zheng, a vassal lord from the Western Zhou dynasty, was slain in a battle with the nomadic Quanrong people, and some of the Zheng citizens fled the capital to establish a new settlement to the south, giving rise to the area's name. However, the veracity of this story is controversial.

Qin and Han dynasties (220 BC - 200 AD)
In the Qin dynasty the area was governed as the Hanzhong Commandery, whose seat was in current day Nanzheng County, south of the Hanzhong urban area. In 207 BC, the Qin dynasty collapsed. Liu Bang, who would later become the founding emperor of the Han dynasty, was made lord of Hanzhong. He spent several years there before raising an army to challenge his arch-rival, Xiang Yu, during the Chu–Han Contention. In 206 BC, after the victory at Gaixia, Liu Bang named his imperial dynasty after his native district, as was customary. However, he chose Hanzhong rather than his birthplace Pei County (present-day Xuzhou, Jiangsu Province). Thus, Hanzhong gave its name to the Han dynasty.

In the second century AD, the Eastern Han dynasty gradually weakened. Outsiders from the Ba region attacked the Hanzhong area, as they had in the past. The Han dynasty lost power. Zhang Lu, supported by followers of a Taoist sect, Way of the Celestial Masters, led an independent theocratic government in Hanzhong. Thirty years later, after the Battle of Yangping, Zhang Lu surrendered Hanzhong to the warlord, Cao Cao.

Prior to and during the Three Kingdoms period, Hanzhong was a militarily strategically important site. It is located at a critical point along the route an army would take from the Central Plain to the Sichuan Basin. At this time, Cao Cao lost control of Hanzhong to Liu Bei, who assumed the title of King of Hanzhong. Ruins and landmarks of the Three Kingdoms era remaining in Hanzhong include the tomb of the Shu Han chancellor Zhuge Liang. Much of this period of Hanzhong's history is retold in the historical novel Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

Tang, Song, and Yuan dynasties (618-1368)
In Hanzhong, between the end of the Han dynasty and the beginning of the Tang dynasty there was political turmoil. In 784, when the capital, Chang'an (modern Xi'an) was captured, the Emperor Dezong of Tang fled to Hanzhong. During the Northern Song dynasty (960 - 1127), however, Hanzhong became economically wealthy with city tax revenue just behind that of regional capitals such as Kaifeng and Chengdu.

Ming and Qing dynasties, and the present (1368-present)
In 1331, during the Ming dynasty in the reign of the Hongwu Emperor, extensive renovations were made to Hanzhong's infrastructure. This work brought Hanzhong to its present layout and form.

The Wanli Emperor (r. 1572-1620) installed his fifth son, Zhu Changhao, as king of Hanzhong. Changhao built a large, luxurious palace in what is now the Children's Park. The palace's Radiant Glass Wall was demolished during road construction in 1935. Since then, a 13.6 m section has been rebuilt on the eastern end of Sanpu Street.

In 1643, Zhu Changhao fled south to Sichuan ahead of Li Zicheng's rebel army. As he departed, his Hanzhong palace was looted. Qing dynasty historians remembered the massive but empty palace.

In December 1949, in the Chinese Civil War, Hanzhong was captured by the People's Liberation Army as the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) expelled the Kuomintang.

Administration
The governance of Hanzhong, including the municipal executive, the legislature and the judiciary are located in Hantai District (汉台区). The offices of the CCP and the Public Security Bureau are also located in Hantai District.

Hanzhong consists two urban districts and nine rural counties.

Economy
In 2021, the Hanzhong regional gross domestic product was 176.87 billion yuan. The annual gross domestic product per capita was 55279 yuan.

Military industry
The 012 base was established in Hanzhong in the 1960s. It is responsible for military transport aircraft and Air-to-air missiles in Yangxian County.

Geography

Hanzhong is located in southwestern Shaanxi, near the border with Gansu and Sichuan Provinces. It is part of the Shannan region. Hanzhong lies in the centre of the Hanzhong Basin, on the banks of the Han River (Hanshui).

The Daba Mountains rise to the south of the city. To the north are the Qin Mountains. These mountains make a northern geographical limit of southern China. However, officially, Shaanxi is part of the northwest. For more on the divisions between northern and southern China, see Northern and southern China.

The coordinates of the city's prefecture ranges in latitude from 33° 02' to 33° 22' N and in longitude from 106° 51' to 107° 10' E. It covers 27246 km2. The northern part of the prefecture is elevated while the southern part is generally low lying. Height above sea level varies from around 500 m in the urban area to 2038 m in the Qin Mountains.

The Wuchiapingian Age in the Permian Period of geological time is named from Wuchiaping (from ) in the Liangshan area of Hanzhong.

Climate
Hanzhong has a temperate and humid climate. It is classified as humid subtropical (Köppen Cwa), with cool, damp winters and hot, humid summers.

The Qin Mountains to the north help shield the city from cold Siberian winds in the winter. Hence, the winter in Hanzhong is warmer than that at similar latitudes east of Shannan. This is despite Hanzhong's elevation and inland location.

In contrast, because of its elevation, Hanzhong summers are temperate, with average highs in July and August about 30 °C. The area is far more humid than central and northern Shaanxi. In Hanzhong, there is 853 mm precipitation annually, as compared to 553 mm in Xi'an, the provincial capital. The chance of sunshine days per month varies from twenty-six percent in November and December to fifty percent in August. Hanzhong receives 1,569 hours of bright sunshine each year. The monthly 24-hour average temperature ranges from 2.8 °C in January to 25.6 °C in July. The annual mean is 14.67 °C.

Transport
Hanzhong's transport needs are served by the Hanzhong Chenggu Airport and Yangpingguan–Ankang Railway. Hanzhong Airport provides air access to Beijing, Xi'an, Shanghai and Shenzhen with daily flights to each.

Hanzhong railway station lies in downtown Hanzhong, and is served by the Xi'an–Chengdu high-speed railway and Yangpingguan–Ankang railway lines.

Hanzhong is also part of a national system of highways. It joins the G5 Beijing-Kunming expressway and the G7011 Shiyan-Hanzhong-Tianshui expressway. National Highway 108, China National Highway 316, China National Highway 210 and the provincial roads 211 and 309 constitute the developed traffic network of Hanzhong.

Education
At the end of 2012, Hanzhong had two hundred and seven middle schools and several centres of higher education.
 * Shaanxi University of Technology
 * Shaanxi Aviation Vocational College
 * Shaanxi Institute of Aeronautical Technology
 * Hanzhong Vocational Technical College

Sights

 * Hanzhong Museum
 * Zhangqian Memorial Museum
 * Baijiang Platform
 * Ancient Hutou Bridge
 * Qingmuchuan Ancient Town
 * Liping National Forest Park

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Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Terrorists

This is a list of discussions about Category:Terrorists. It includes both Categories for deletion and Categories for discussion (the new name). Here are some searches of Categories for discussion for terrorism and terrorist: and. They pull up many discussions of various terrorism and terrorist categories. Add a year to narrow the search results. See also the top of Category talk:Terrorists and Category talk:Terrorism for links to discussions.

2004

 * See Categories for deletion/Terrorists/2004 for an archived discussion from 2004.
 * See also Categories for deletion/unresolved for discussion of related categories

2005

 * Categories for deletion/Log/2005 October 1
 * Result - No consensus (no change)

2006

 * Categories for deletion/Log/2006 January 28
 * Result - no consensus
 * Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 1
 * Result - keep
 * Categories for deletion/Log/2006 August 20
 * Result - no consensus
 * Categories for deletion/Log/2006 September 23
 * Result - no consensus
 * Categories for deletion/Log/2006 October 31 (along with Category:Terrorists by nationality and subcategories)
 * Result - delete
 * Overturned by deletion review and sent back to CFD
 * Categories for deletion/Log/2006 November 15
 * Result - no consensus

2008

 * Categories for discussion/Log/2008 July 25 (along with many subcategories and Category:Terrorists).
 * Result - Keep all

2009

 * Categories for discussion/Log/2009 April 27
 * Result - Delete


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User talk:Carpetrocks

All fine, thanks. [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 03:31, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)

You put this on my talk page page. Please see the response there User talk:81.156.181.83

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 * DO YOU THINK JESUS CHRIST IS FUNNY?

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Tilly Rolston

Tilly Rolston (February 23, 1887 – October 12, 1953) was a Canadian politician.

Initially elected to the British Columbia provincial legislature as a Conservative in the 1941 provincial election, she crossed the floor and joined W.A.C. Bennett in the British Columbia Social Credit Party before the watershed election in 1952.

She was the second woman to be a cabinet minister in British Columbia, and the first woman in Canada to have a portfolio. In her role as Minister of Education, she introduced a new method of school finance that came to be known as the "Rolston Formula". She was also instrumental in introducing what was effectively a sex-education program into the school curriculum.

She was defeated in the 1953 election by Liberal leader Arthur Laing. Despite her defeat she remained Education Minister until her death from cancer four months later.

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Talk:Warren Kinsella

Awards?
I did a Google search on Kinsella and the Sun Newspaper bios say he's an award-winning journalist and author. The awards he won should be in the entry. Can someone with more time try to hunt them down? Spoonkymonkey (talk) 15:55, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

I haven't been able to find any, but I am sure there must be something out there that I am missing. Maybe user:Kinsellawarren can be unblocked long enough to give us a list and some sources. They really should be there. Also he might be able to give something to back up the Sun newspapers' claim he "ran" the federal Liberal  war rooms in 1993 and 2000. There seems to be some controversy in that regard. Various socks have put it in, but we've never had a solid source.Spoonkymonkey (talk) 01:32, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Why don't you send him an email? Toddst1 (talk) 21:00, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

 * That seems like a really good idea. I'll get on that. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 03:00, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Northern Foundation
I am pretty uncomfortable with this section. Is this for real? Yes, his name is on the Industry Canada listing but is it some kind of prank? Did someone post his name there as a joke? If Kinsella still checks this page he should be unblocked if he has anything to say about this. We need to keep this page as accurate as possible and remember BLP policies. I'd take it off but it is sourced and I don't want to get into a revert war. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 20:59, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

 * After some thought, I've decided to remove it until we know more about it. Did Kinsella himself register as a director? Is it this Warren Kinsella. Yes, it's not a typical name but I'm not sure that it's a good idea to pull something like this off the Internet and present it as evidence of anything. The entry needs much more work as it is. For instance, there's not nearly enough about his books, which should be described with more than just a list of titles. Were any of them best-sellers? Did any of them win awards? I hope a Canadian picks up on this. I have spent a lot of time on this rather obscure and somewhat nasty and unpleasant person. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 21:54, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

 * After the Northern Foundation tidbit was dropped into this entry, I decided to re-research and take another run at it. Kinsella is obviously someone who is truly hated by his enemies, and the Internet has a lot of negative material about him and very little that's positive (for example, I could not find one positive review of his last book from anything other that the sad sack Washington Times, and precious little positive material written about him before that. He does not show up in the indexes of any important modern books on Canadian political strategy as anything more than a blogger. He strikes me as someone who had a brief flash of a career 13 years ago but is pretty much trading on that since.) Through the years, the entry has become a catalog of screw-ups and mis-steps, with a lot more salacious material than useful facts. I have cleaned it up and am leaving it. If people want to revert it to an entry that focuses on Kinsella's mistakes, that's their choice. If it wasn't for the books, I'd put the entry up for deletion and I expect it would pass. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 19:45, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

 * Even the books are barely notable, for example "Party Favours" was a risible attempt to profit off of "Primary Colours" that bombed, and it's hard to say any of the others have had great impact. John Rae by most sources had a greater role in each (groan) "war room," but he doesn't warrant a Wikipedia entry. Kinsella's a PR professional who gets in online flame wars as a hobby, so anything here will be a tug of war between all the participants of those flame wars.  My recommendation is delete (which I believe is Kinsella's preference, for what it is worth), or if not possible, trim to the complete, verifiable bone, with anything contested lifted. Knoper (talk) 04:48, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism
FYI, Kinsella has linked to a mockup of this page on his blog as it was being vandalized.

For what it's worth, as I note above, the article as it is now is a bit padded, and could probably be a third of its length, though I've come around to thinking some items do deserve a mention. Also, "war room" isn't encyclopedic language and should be avoided (like it is in the current article). Knoper (talk) 16:21, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Edits
OK, I've tried to clean it up a bit. Any thoughts? Knoper (talk) 19:48, 18 April 2014 (

"Minor" controversies
Well, another attempt to speedy delete. I didn't get any feedback on my last post (which has been blanked for some reason) and would like to get some consensus on adding/removing:

 * "Cat meat" and "cookies", looking at it again, seem pretty minor and in need of removal. They seemed to have been added by someone who liked Kinsella getting hoisted by his petard; while I trimmed them, might be best to let them go.  Anyone opposed?
 * Might be better to replace "shrapnel machine" with a comment that it was a common Conservative talking point to attack Kinsella pre-QP (this is verifiable).
 * Website/blog mention?

Any and all comments welcome.Knoper (talk) 19:41, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Leave it as it is. Catmeat was raised in House of Commons, got much ethnic press. Cookies was an Ontario election incident. Shrapnel accurately portrays rep as strategist. Entry is accurate and properly sourced. People who worked on this page should be consulted before major changes are made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.14.66 (talk) 19:43, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

 * I've been very clear that others should be consulted, and I've frequently invited others to do so. I notice that you're the IP that erased my earlier remark, why did you do so? Knoper (talk) 21:09, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Czech tennis players

This category lists tennis players with Wikipedia articles who have notably represented the Czech Republic. Note that articles are sub-categorized by whether a player has done so in male or female competition, and also by particular notable competitions.

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Eva by Heart

Eva by Heart is the first solo studio album (third overall) by American singer Eva Cassidy. It was released in 1997, a year after Cassidy's death.

Track listing

 * 1) "I Know You by Heart" (Eve Nelson, Diane Scanlon) – 3:57
 * 2) "Time Is a Healer" (Diane Scanlon, Greg Smith) – 4:14
 * 3) "Wayfaring Stranger" (Traditional) – 4:26
 * 4) "Wade in the Water" (Traditional) – 4:00
 * 5) "Blues in the Night" (Harold Arlen, Johnny Mercer) – 4:05
 * 6) "Songbird" (Christine McVie) – 3:41
 * 7) "Need Your Love So Bad" (Little Willie John, Mertis John Jr.) – 4:36 (duet with Chuck Brown)
 * 8) "Say Goodbye" (Steven Digman, Andrew Hernandez) – 3:55
 * 9) "Nightbird" (Doug MacLeod) – 5:27
 * 10) "Waly, Waly" (Traditional) – 4:45
 * 11) "How Can I Keep from Singing?" (Traditional) – 4:24

Musicians

 * Eva Cassidy – acoustic guitar, guitar, strings, cello, keyboards, vocals, background vocals, wah wah guitar
 * Chris Biondo – acoustic guitar, bass
 * Keith Grimes – electric guitar
 * Raice McLeod – drums
 * Chuck Brown – background vocals
 * Mark Carson – piano, background vocals
 * Dan Cassidy – violin
 * Doug Elliot – trombone
 * Anthony Flowers – organ
 * John Gillespie – organ, background vocals
 * Dan Haverstock – trombone
 * William "JuJu" House – drums
 * Larry Melton – bass
 * Leigh Pilzer – baritone saxophone, tenor saxophone
 * Mike Stein – violin
 * Karen Van Sant – violin
 * Chris Walker – trumpet
 * Lenny Williams – organ, strings, keyboards
 * Kent Wood – piano

Production

 * Producer: Chris Biondo
 * Engineers: Chris Biondo, Lenny Williams, Kent Wood
 * Remastering: Robert Vosgien
 * Arranger: Eva Cassidy
 * Horn arrangements: Leigh Pilzer
 * String arrangements: Lenny Williams
 * Drum programming: Chris Biondo
 * Liner notes: Joel Siegel
 * Design: Eileen White

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