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Talk:Tobacco packaging warning messages

To Do
To Do: things I'd love to see

1. History of warning signs-in Brazil dont they show pictures of swollen up arteries or something? 2. Translation for foreign ones - I have friends from all over Europe who smoke-I'll be adding some Russian, Czech, German, French and Brazilian ones in soon 3. No deletion of this. It starts out small, but it'll get bigger 4. Move somewhere else maybe, add some categories to it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thewayforward (talk • contribs) 13:04, 2 December 2004 (UTC)

 * for some photos see http://www.xelca.nl/articles/foto_op_pakje_sigaretten.aspx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.51.209.230 (talk • contribs) 14:31, 18 December 2004 (UTC)

 * Personally, I'd love to see information on the effectiveness of the campaign, preferably by nation.Wzrd1 (talk) 21:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * so would I. I'd like to know how much the incidences of cancer, among smokers, are increasing or decreasing since the launch of the warning labels/photos. Has any research addressed the effects of how the human body may be affected by the power of suggestion, subliminal messaging, etc., in a negative manner-ie: visualization becoming realized.Ibelieveineverything (talk) 01:10, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Sections
Currently it has sections called English French German etc, I added the Irish section as "Republic of Ireland" even though the messages are presented in English. It would probably be more accurate to point to the country or jurisdiction in which the messages appear rather than the language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.202.138.134 (talk • contribs) 01:32, 4 December 2004 (UTC)

As a european, to be accurate, this article MUST put all E.U. countries in the same section because their warnings are exactly the same, the only difference are language subtleties. Laguna117 01:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)Laguna 117

Spoofs
I've added information about spoof cigarette warnings but didn't want to link directly to the website that seels them. Should a link be given? It's www.fakefags.co.uk if so. Dafyddyoung 22:21, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Canada
I don't smoke, so i really can't contribute. However, I live in Canada, and I know that on our cig cartons, there are big gruesome pictures taking up like half of the cover thing. I know that they have one of people with mouth cancer, black lungs, etc, but im not sure. someone else who reads this might know. SECProto 23:45, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)

 * http://www.infotobacco.com is the Canadian site. Brazil and Thailand's Graphic Warnings can be viewed here, and the full list (with examples) of countries displaying graphic images are here. hth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.134.6.202 (talk • contribs) 11:40, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

 * the picture for the canadian warning isn't very convincing, erections are annoying, australia has the most graphic pics i've ever seen —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Right Honourable (talk • contribs) 10:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Canada has a new law where the anti-smoking graphic must be 75% of the packaging. Also they have banned "light" and "mild". The cigarette companies call them "smooth" and "balanced". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.67.175.61 (talk) 15:51, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Naming
I'd like to suggest moving this article to Tobacco packet warning signs or Tobacco packaging warning signs (I prefer the latter). The reasoning is that such warnings don't just appear on cigarette packets, but also on tobacco pouches. violet/riga (t) 20:18, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Australia
Can someone update the Australia section with this - http://www.smoke-free.ca/warnings/Australia-warnings.htm - I've never edited a page and wouldn't know what to do —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.27.221.8 (talk • contribs) 02:21, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Spain
One particularly interesting warning on tobacco in Spain was "Fumar Te Matara" (Smoking will kill you). If anyone can compile a list, that would be great! --Trafficone 11:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually in Spain it's "Fumar puede matar" Smoking can kill, and it's a exception to the E.U. standard playing on language subtleties Laguna117 01:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC) Laguna117

European Union
Warning signs in the countries of European Union are standartized by Union legislation. Therefore there is no sense to compile a separate list for every country of European Union - bacause all warnings are the same, in the official language of a respective country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.246.200.110 (talk • contribs) 16:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I second.* It all says the same and even introduces translation errors. Cut out all individial transaltions, eventually leave same examples. Elthe 10:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I read in the newspaper when the laws where changed in Iceland regarding health warnings that they where adopted from the EU leguslations because of the European Economic Area agreement. I also took the liberty to add the bulk of Icelandic warning messages and put the translations into 's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agustsmari (talk • contribs) 14:13, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Translate
Can somebody please Tanslate the Italy, and Lativa section? offtopic: Compared to the other warning labels, the US one looks inferior by tryin to use "bog" words in stead if falt out sayin it "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 06:42, 22 October 2006 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelofdeath275 (talk • contribs)

Singapore
First,this is a member of wiki but im too lazy to log in anyway

The purpose of this post is that i wonder why Singapore is not featured here.Singapore is also a country that take a serious stance against smoking.Cig packs have graphic images and u can literally see anti-smoking(not no smoking) signs around downtown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.9.5 (talk • contribs) 15:14, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Pot Makes You Stoned
This is vandalism, right? --DonES 00:13, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

No it is quite true :P HarveyDanger 02:30, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

history
what about the history of the warnings? I heard somewhere that the first was volunterely put by lucky strike an increased the sales, does anyone knows if its true?130.192.70.4 16:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

it is so bad for you, don't to it, it might kill you!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.12.30 (talk) 01:18, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

South Africa
Can someone add South Africa because there are no african countries listed. South Afica has warning messages on tabacco packaging. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.209.60.57 (talk) 20:34, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

penumbral lunar eclipse?
Does the netherlands really warn that smoking 'could cause a penumbral lunar eclipse?' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.233.202.2 (talk) 13:53, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

No they don't. I never saw it before and can't find anything about it on the Internet either.94.211.19.30 (talk) 17:50, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Length of Message
Does anybody know of any study looking at the length of the warning message? I always think that "Smoking kills" works better than a lenghthy medical text and thus in a smaller font. Similarly, are bi- or trilingual messages less effective than monolingual ones? 213.143.18.23 (talk) 08:42, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

smoking in new york
who gave the right to the mayor of nyc to raise prices on cigarrettes. was this because he need it to raise more money for the city or because he is reformed smoker like everybody else. and i thought that the goverment has to ask if they can implement the law instead of make it a rule. why dont you outlaw the vodka scotch and wine. and close down the bars and reastaurants that sell alchohol that cause liver cancer that just as dangerous as cigarettes and why they dont ban buses planes with monoxide. i dare anybody from this organization to debate with me anytime on their convenience and time if they dare — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.146.205.81 (talk) 03:27, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

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I certainly do not think this decision to be the solution. But, it reveals concerns about noise in WP. In that respect this decision is the proof that the problem is not ignored any more, that there is a search toward a solution. The actual, and much harder to deal with, issue is about what can be considered as notable or not.

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I'll observe a lot, and contribute moderately, as usual. A purple wikiuser 00:57, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

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Erich Hecke

Erich Hecke (20 September 1887 – 13 February 1947) was a German mathematician known for his work in number theory and the theory of modular forms.

Biography
Hecke was born in Buk, Province of Posen, German Empire (now Poznań, Poland). He obtained his doctorate in Göttingen under the supervision of David Hilbert.

Kurt Reidemeister and Heinrich Behnke were among his students.

In 1933 Hecke signed the Loyalty Oath of German Professors to Adolf Hitler and the National Socialist State, but was later known as being opposed to the Nazis.

Hecke died in Copenhagen, Denmark.

André Weil, in the foreword to his text Basic Number Theory says: "To improve upon Hecke, in a treatment along classical lines of the theory of algebraic numbers, would be a futile and impossible task", referring to Hecke's book "Lectures on the Theory of Algebraic Numbers."

Research
His early work included establishing the functional equation for the Dedekind zeta function, with a proof based on theta functions. The method extended to the L-functions associated to a class of characters now known as Hecke characters or idele class characters; such L-functions are now known as Hecke L-functions. He devoted most of his research to the theory of modular forms, creating the general theory of cusp forms (holomorphic, for GL(2)), as it is now understood in the classical setting.

Recognition
He was a Plenary Speaker of the ICM in 1936 in Oslo.

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Talk:S-box

This page does not agree with the page on Confusion and Diffusion. While that page associates diffusion with dissipating the relationship between a plaintext and a ciphertext (as here), substitution is there considered to be a component of confusion not diffusion. IMHO the first paragraph here needs to be reworked. Dvunkannon (talk) 20:44, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

hashes
Note that for some hashes (like the simple s-box hash) the s-box is also an important technique in hashes to increase the avalanche achievement behaviour of relatively simple algorithms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.61.9.74 (talk) 12:29, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Cache timing attacks against S-boxes
djb wrote an interesting paper about cache timing available here. While the paper focuses on AES, the attack is applicable against most encryption algorithm using large S-boxes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.1.63.132 (talk • contribs)

Expansion
This article needs expansion. It doesn't talk much about what a S-box is, or how it works, at all. I'd expand it, but I don't know myself. Surgo 05:32, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

I second this. 68.126.192.237 06:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Title should be S-box
The "S" may stand for "substitution" but no-one ever talks about a "substitution box", only an "S-box". If we're to follow the terminology used in the field, we should title this appropriately. — ciphergoth 18:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

The answer for "Corresponding Output.." ?
Looks to have been updated. Thank you. Brifish (talk) 07:21, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

DES S-box size
What's the meaning of "6×4-bit"? It's neither 6 4-bit boxes, nor 6×4 = 24-bit boxes. Shouldn't it be on of the following?
 * 4×2-bit
 * 16×4
 * 2^6×4 = 64×4-bit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8070:A193:9601:7CFD:6A43:B3D9:5DF (talk) 17:09, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

 * I agree, it's confusing. The only way it makes sense is to read it as a 6-bit input (there are 26 boxes) mapped into a 4-bit output, so 26×4 bits total. I'll change it. -- intgr [talk] 19:34, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Not that the current text is wrong, but the notation "m×n S-box" is introduced right in the preceding paragraph. 92.10.41.178 (talk) 23:21, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

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Category talk:Tobacco

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Cigarette packet warning signs is great. It's my little baby and I want it to get stronger. A simple page to nourish I think. If I smoked it'd be easier, but alas I dont. French people do loads. Damn them.

Please do not create an article to promote yourself, a website, a product, or a business it says. This doesn't fall into this category I hope--Thewayforward 13:11, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * It doesn't fall into that promotion category, but there could be some question as to whether it is appropriate to an encyclopedia. - Centrx 07:39, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Double tagging...
I hope no-one minds, but I'm going to tag the articles about the actual plants in Solanaceae as well, just to make things easier for those of us who work on or research plants... SB Johnny 17:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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Renault 10

The Renault 10 is a rear-engined, rear-wheel drive small family car produced by the French manufacturer Renault between 1965 and 1971. A larger, more upmarket version of the 8, it was launched in 1965. In 1971 it was replaced by the front-wheel drive Renault 12, which was built in parallel for two years.

The 10 was also produced in Bulgaria until 1970 (see Bulgarrenault), and in Spain.

History
In September 1965 the Renault 10 Major (branded in some markets as the Renault 1100) was launched, replacing the Renault 8 Major. This was a lengthened version of the Renault 8 with an increased front overhang and a much enlarged front luggage compartment, its capacity increased from 240 to 315 litres. The front and rear of the cars were fully redesigned, while the dimensions and sheetmetal of the central passenger cabin were unchanged. The 1,108 cc engine, which for some markets had already appeared in top of the range versions of the Renault 8, came from the Renault Caravelle. In the French market, the Renault 10 found itself struggling to compete with the successful Peugeot 204 introduced in the same year. In the United States, the Renault 10 was offered as "The Renault for people who swore they would never buy another one", after the Dauphine's disappointing reputation.

Early R10 had round headlights, but just two years after launch the 10 itself was facelifted, rectangular headlights now further differentiating it from the Renault 8. Round sealed beam headlights were maintained for the US and Canadian markets.

Alongside the Renault 10, less powerful versions of the Renault 8 continued in production at the Flins plant with the existing shorter body.

A larger unit, the 1289 cc engine from the new Renault 12, was fitted to the Renault 10 for the Motor Show in October 1970, giving birth to the Renault 10-1300. Although the engine mounted at the back of the Renault 10-1300 was in most respects identical to that fitted at the front of the Renault 12, the unit in the older car was effectively detuned, with a lowered compression ratio and a listed maximum output of 52 PS SAE (48 PS DIN) whereas the unit in the Renault 12 was advertised as providing 60 PS SAE (54 PS DIN). Renault thus offered two competing models in the same market category, but the older rear engined design came with a listed price 1,000 francs (approximately 10%) lower and a top speed of 135 km/h (84 mph) as against 145 km/h (90 mph) for the entry level Renault 12. The 1108 cc version of the engine was still offered for 1970, but now only when combined with the Jaeger "button operated" semi-automatic transmission which had been offered in earlier versions of the car since 1963.

End of production
French production of the Renault 10 ceased at the end of summer 1971, by which time the model had been selling for a year in parallel with the commercially more successful Renault 12. Although production of the Renault 10 ended in 1971, the 8 was still sold in France as late as 1973.

Alconi
Through their South African subsidiary, Renault Africa Ltd, a special performance version of the Renault 10 (model 1190) was assembled at their East London assembly plant. It sold in that country only as a Renault Alconi, a combination the names of the developers, John Conchie and Eric 'Puddles' Adler, who traded as "Alconi Developments".

Engine upgrades resulted in 68 bhp (net) and a performance close to that of the R8 Gordini '1100' and midway between the standard Renault 8 and the 1255cc Gordini. They offered 0–60 mph in 11.9sec, top speed of 97 mph, (according to "Car" magazine road test) and sold for about 10% over the standard car.

It was sold new through their dealer network in South Africa and covered by their factory warranty. The local concept was intended to increase vehicle sales to a racing mad South African public by taking advantage of their race-track successes in local "Sprint" and "Endurance" races. About 400–500 vehicles (both 8 and 10) seem to have been sold. As well, many hundreds of performance kits to upgrade the standard vehicles were sold over their parts counters.

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CIÉ 421 Class

The Córas Iompair Éireann 421 Class was a railway locomotive, built by the CIÉ at Inchicore Works between 1962–1963 and designed for branch line traffic use and shunting.

History
The 421 Class was a larger development of the earlier 401 Class, and were fitted with a Maybach MD220 engine of 420 hp with diesel hydraulic transmission via a Mekydro KL64U transmission. Unlike the earlier E401 class, these locomotives were fitted for multiple operation. They were of C wheel arrangement.

The first of the class made its debut in early October 1962 on pilot duties in the Dublin area and although they had a design maximum speed of 100 km/h, experience (notably the derailment of a trial train hauled by E421) showed that they did not ride well when travelling at speeds over 40 km/h and so henceforth were limited to that speed and used simply for shunting duties instead. They were numbered E421–E434, and were withdrawn from service between 1979 and 1983.

Preservation
Three of these locomotives have been preserved, as follows:
 * E421 and E432: Owned by and based at the Downpatrick and County Down Railway, Northern Ireland. Both locos are currently stored out of traffic.
 * E428 had recently moved from Inchicore Works to Dunsandle, County Galway under private ownership.

Model
The E421 was available as a resin model from "Q Kits", but this company is no longer trading as the owner has retired.

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Adiaké

Adiaké is a town in southeastern Ivory Coast, located on the western shore of Aby Lagoon. It is a sub-prefecture of and the seat of Adiaké Department in Sud-Comoé Region, Comoé District. Adiaké is also a commune.

In 2021, the population of the sub-prefecture of Adiaké was 50,556.

Villages
The 23 villages of the sub-prefecture of Adiaké and their population in 2014 are: • Aboutou (1 722)

• Adiaké  (19 055)

• Anga  (972)

• Attiékoi/Ekromiabla  (566)

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CIÉ 601 Class

The Córas Iompair Éireann 601 Class locomotives were built in 1956-1957, by Motorenfabrik Deutz at Cologne, Germany. They were 3 small shunting locomotives (601, 602 & 603) of B wheel arrangement and were fitted with a Deutz V8 F8L 614 engine of 130 hp, with Voith hydraulic transmission and chain final drive. They weighed only 18 tons and had a maximum speed of 32 km/h. These locomotives were never fitted with train brakes, so had limited usefulness compared to their successors, the G611 class. The G601 locomotives were withdrawn from service between 1965 and 1972.

Preservation
One of these locomotives, number G601, has been preserved by the Irish Traction Group and is currently awaiting restoration at Carrick-on-Suir. In 2010 a secondhand engine was purchased to replace the seized engine currently fitted.

Model
The 601 Class has been made as a 4 mm scale brass kit by Worsley Works. Steve Johnson's site also has details on kitbashing a model.

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Shenzhen F.C.

Shenzhen Football Club was a Chinese professional football club based in Shenzhen, Guangdong. Shenzhen played its home matches at the Shenzhen Universiade Sports Centre and the Shenzhen Stadium. Their majority shareholder was the Kaisa Group, a property development company which took over the club on 12 April 2016.

The club was founded on 26 January 1994, and was known as Shenzhen F.C. while they started at the bottom of the Chinese football pyramid in the third tier. After successive league title wins in the third and second tier of the professional football leagues, they were promoted to the top tier in the 1996 Chinese Jia-A League season. After only one season they were relegated, however they quickly regained promotion and started to establish themselves within the league before they won the rebranded 2004 Chinese Super League title, making them the first club to win all three divisions within the Chinese league pyramid. Since this achievement the club have struggled to match the same success and after 14 years experienced relegation to the second tier at the end of 2011 Chinese Super League season. The club dissolved after the 2023 season, on 22 January 2024.

Early club era
Shenzhen Football Club was founded on 26 January 1994 by former Chinese players that included Rong Zhixing and Zeng Xuelin after the Chinese Football Association had allowed full professionalism and private ownership throughout their football league system. In an attempt for the City of Shenzhen to gain their first professional football team the club decided that the best way to gain funding was through memberships that included 100 corporate members and 300 individuals before changing the ownership into shareholdings. With Hu Zhigang as their first ever head coach and with players from all over the country, the club won two consecutive promotions and championships before entering the top tier of Chinese football after only two seasons, a remarkable feat named "Shenzhen speed" by the locals.

The club's first foray in the top tier, however was not a success and they were immediately relegated at the end of the 1996 campaign. In January 1997, Ping An Insurance took over the club and renamed it to "Shenzhen Ping'an". With this new ownership the club immediately won back promotion to the top tier after coming runners-up within their division. Once again the team struggled with relegation, however South Korean football legend Cha Bum-Kun was appointed as the club's first ever foreign head coach in the summer of 1998. Cha consolidated the club's status within the top tier with two successful relegation escapes. Meanwhile, the club made a long-term combined signing of 14 hot prospects from Tianjin Locomotive's 1st team as fresh blood, among them included future prospects Li Weifeng and Li Yi.

At the start of the 2000 season on March 27, newly appointed head coach the eccentric Brazilian Edson Tavares caught six players Peng Weiguo, Chen Yongqiang, Zhang Jun, Sun Gang, Wang Chao and Yao Li with prostitutes in the team hotel. This internal incident was leaked to the media becoming an open scandal, however the club claimed inconsistencies with the story, nevertheless the players involved had to make a public apology while the club relieved Tavares of his post as a scapegoat. General manager Zhu Guanghu took over in May and started his regime during, which Shenzhen became a major force within the league and placed fifth in 2001 before coming runners-up in 2002 (though through a joking poker sortition at a formal FA judgment process, in which coach Xie Feng picked card 6 and stated it as 9 and thus won a runner-up back for Shenzhen) their highest finish at the time.

Jianlibao Group
The Jianlibao Group took over the club before the 2003 campaign and renamed the club after its own brand. The club came fourth within the league and brought in major Chinese signings in Yang Chen who returned to China after spending several seasons in Germany while Zheng Bin answered the summon of Zhu, his coach back in the international youth team. These inclusions as well as the defender Zheng Zhi converted to a playmaker saw Shenzhen Jianlibao sensationally won the first ever Chinese Super League title in 2004 despite severe financial problems leaving players unpaid for seven months. By-then head coach Zhu Guanghu was subsequently awarded the coach of the year award and was appointed head coach of the Chinese national team.

The following season quickly saw the team fall from grace and they only managed a twelfth-place finish (third from bottom) in the league. The new head coach Chi Shangbin resigned after only three mouths due to his poor relationship with the squad, especially from then-captain Li Weifeng and senior players like Li Yi and Yang Chen. Chi was unhappy due to the senior players' influential control over the team, their unprofessional behavior and discipline especially with gambling. He tried to regain control of the squad with his strictness, but most of the players reacted fiercely by training and playing even more poorly. Li Weifeng punched Chi's office window; Yang Chen, who was already a relatively gentle person got upset too and repeatedly exposed the uselessness of Chi's policy to media, which saw the then owner Yang Saixin having to let Chi go. Both of them later infamously and sensationally labeled the troublemakers as "QiuBa"(Football-lord). Throughout the chaos, Shenzhen were still able to reach the 2005 AFC Champions League semi-finals after defeating Saudi Arabian side Al-Ahli despite losing the first leg in Jeddah before they were later heavily defeated by UAE champions Al Ain FC 6–0 in the semi-finals.

The following season the Jianlibao Group lacked interest and cash for investment and were taken over by the Beijing Huizhong Tianheng Investment Company. While the acquisition went through the club survived merely on sponsorship and by selling the best players off. Under domestic head coaches and youngsters from the youth teams founded back in Jianlibao era stepped up in time, and avoided relegations with help from key foreign players in Marek Zając and his compatriot Bogdan Zając. After a heavy defeat at home losing 1–4 to the champion Changchun Yatai at the last match of 2007 season, owner Yang Saixin claimed that he was "fed up" and wanted to sell the club. With no buyers and bids the club went into administration and it was only through their sponsorship deals and the Shenzhen Football Association keeping the club afloat. They experienced more difficulties when their head coach Mai Chao unexpectedly left after one match to join the Guangzhou Football Association and manage their youth team. Long-serving youth coach Zhang Zengqun took over, later joined by former head coach Wang Baoshan as technical consultant. With crucial goals coming from Johnson, nicknamed "Angolan the Great" by fans, who won the silver boot award with 13 goals; and veteran Song Lihui the club survived relegation despite a difficult start to the season.

Wan Hongwei
On January 21, 2009, Shenzhen F.C. was reportedly bought out of administration by a "Hong Kong based investor" who gained control by acquiring 51% of the club's stock, with the remaining 49% to be transferred in the next six months for a complete takeover alongside former player Fan Yuhong who also brought in his academy at Nanshan, Shenzhen to become the club's youth side while as well as becoming the new managerial director and acting-head coach. On February 28, 2009, Fan Yuhong revealed that the new owners of the club were two main shareholders of China Motion, a publicly listed company in Hong Kong, however these rumors were false. The reality of Shenzhen's finances was that the club's sponsor Shenzhen Asia Travel Sports Culture Communication Co., Ltd were acquiring the majority of the club's shares. Meanwhile, Shenzhen were in talks with a new kit advertisement and naming right sponsor, which would help further stabilize and secure the club's finances while the takeover finished, but only received a miner deal halfway through the season. On November 4, 2009, Wan Wongwei, a representative of a Singapore-based investment company revealed himself as the real investor and chairman of the club. With the Ruby company founded by him and other shareholders to run the club he decided to renamed the club as Shenzhen Ruby FC. Meanwhile, back on the field the team started the season slow and after a heavy 6–1 defeat to Guangzhou F.C. on August 8, Fan was sacked. Former player and coach Xie Feng was appointed as spearhead of the possible return of the legendary Zhu Guanghu, but Zhu turned to wealthier Shaanxi Chanba instead. As Xie Feng tightened the defense, and crucial reinforcements from the transfer market including Hernan Barcos, Mao Jianqing, Marko Zoric and Chen Jie, the team impressively had a 10 match unbeaten run towards the end of season and avoided relegation, despite a controversial 3-point deduction from the FA for wearing the wrong colour kit and in the subsequently delayed match versus Shanghai Shenhua.

Former Cyprus international Siniša Gogić was appointed as head coach for the 2010 season. The attacking and passionate Serbian brought a roller-coaster run combined with an unbeaten start even once reaching the top of the table, however consecutive loses saw them slide towards a relegation fight till the last match of the season. Up to eight foreign players including various internationals Chris Killen, Aleksandar Živković, Vyacheslav Hleb, Ivan Vicelich and Hussein Alaa Hussein all contributed throughout the season and saved the club from relegation for the sixth consecutive season. Off the pitch Ruby Company also announced the three years sponsorship and cooperation deal from Kweichow Moutai Company worth more than 100 million RMB. The club added "Moutai" in its name once again as their named sponsor.

Philippe Troussier
From a meeting during the 2011 AFC Asian Cup, Wan Hongwei signed former Japanese international head coach Philippe Troussier with a luxurious three-year contract under the financial sponsorship from Moutai Company. Troussier would have a difficult start to his reign when the team had to move from their home ground Shenzhen City Stadium and training ground to Huizhou Olympic Stadium because of the 2011 Summer Universiade. When the team returned to Shenzhen in their new home Bao'an Stadium, Troussier had enforced a youthful revolution within the team, however it turned out to be too radical for the club despite the refreshing ball passing and possessing tactics that they displayed and they suffered from a dreadful club-record six consecutive defeats that also included a cup tie. Despite these defeats he continued to keep faith with the youngsters and "banished" the mature players to the bench or the stand for various reasons. His youngsters collapsed in front of the enormous pressure and unlike in the past campaigns "the relegation escapists" were relegated after 14 years, making them the first professional former top tier champions to be relegated since the foundation of professional football in China.

The club kept faith in Troussier for the 2012 season in the Chinese Jia League and allowed him full influence over the squad, staff structure and pre-season arrangements, control almost unheard of with the current Chinese game. An unpromising start again quickly disappointed fans and caused further upset and conflict left behind from the previous season, which escalated in the fourth round in the league match versus Chongqing F.C. when in a local TV interview Troussier fired out against criticism and doubt from fans and urged them "not to come to the game or him". Shenzhen Ruby won the match, however former players who were forced to leave by Troussier in his efforts to force youth into the team Li Fei and Chris Killen scored for Chongqing F.C. in their first return to Shenzhen and physical confrontations took place after the match among fans, staffs, players and even Troussier himself. His passing tactics lacked penetration on mediocre pitch conditions especially at away grounds and sitting back opposition. This wasn't helped by his off the pitch eccentric personality and temperament, which alienated his relationships with the squad and staff, which was highlighted after a defeat to Chengdu Tiancheng F.C. in an August 25 game saw the club's hopes for promotion vanish with Troussier soon afterwards providing a statement that he would take leave back to France on a "regular holiday under his contract". The club's supporters would believe the board sent him on leave hoping that the indignity would see him resign rather than compensating him the 1 Million euros per year in his contract, however he returned from his holiday despite having two of his close staff members leave and assistant manager Patrick Aussems take charge as caretaker. Upon his return the board accepted his proposal to let Aussems continue to manage first team till the end of the season, while he would go backstage for the preparation for next season.

Aussems and fitness coach Christian Jahan gave a refreshing finish of the season, earning 11 points in 7 matches, but not enough to convince the board for permanent appointment. By the end of the year, based on the fact that the board could not afford to sack but still need Troussier's fame for media exposure and sponsor search, a new agreement with Troussier was reached by announcing his continuous management for another season and reforming the backroom as he wanted. Aussems and Jahan, who were invited in by Troussier to join him at the first place, were released after their relationship with Troussier deteriorated after caretaking the team as the board appointed during the "holiday incident". Troussier brought in Eric Garcin and Rabah Ben Larbi as replacement backroom staffs. His personal assistant David Camhi also returned after an attempt of resignation during "holiday incident" was never accepted by the board.

Kaisa Group
After Philippe Troussier's tenue came to an end and he was unable to gain promotion for the club it saw Wan Hongwei and the Ruby company actively start to pull funding from the team. This resulted in the July 15, 2014 FA Cup game against Shandong Luneng being delayed by 20 minutes while the Shenzhen players held a banner proclaiming unpaid wages from the owner. After the game in which Shenzhen lost 5–0 the club's manager Li Yi defended his team on their actions. On January 16, 2015, the owners officially announced that they had sold-off 55 percent of the shares within the club and the club's official name had changed to Shenzhen Municipal Football Club Co., Ltd. On October 27, 2015, Deng Junjie (邓俊杰) and the Hong Kong Honghu Capital Group took over the club. On 12 April 2016, property development company the Kaisa Group held a ceremony to proclaim their ownership of the club.

In the 2018 China League One, the team pulled off a last-round comeback to finish second ahead of Zhejiang Greentown, who held the second place for the last 13 rounds, and earned promotion back to the top division after a 7-year absence. The team, upon promotion, though, only finished 15th out of 16th, yet were saved from relegation when Tianjin Tianhai filed for bankruptcy.

In the 2020 season, due to the Covid-19 pandemic, the China Super League structure was transformed as a tournament based league. In the Dalian Division, Shenzhen FC recorded 5W-2D-7L in the division ranked 5th to get into the relegation playoff. In the first round of the relegation playoff, Shenzhen FC lost to Tianjin Teda in aggregate 1–3. In the second round of the playoff, Shenzhen FC beat Shijiazhuang Yongchang in aggregate 3–2 to avoid the relegation. In the final playoff in 2020 China Super League, Shenzhen FC beat Qingdao Huanghai in aggregate 4–1, which made Shenzhen FC finally ranked 13th in China Super League. John Mary scored 13 goals in total ranked 3rd in the top scorers following Cedric Bakambu and Paulinho.

In the first period of 2021 season, Jordi Cruyff's team recorded 2W-2D-1L in first five games. On June 3, Shenzhen FC made an announcement that Jordi Cruyff stepped down as the head coach of the club and will work for the Barcelona. Also the same day, after a friendly negotiation, Shenzhen FC decided to hire José Carlos Granero as the head coach of the club.

On 22 January 2024, Shenzhen announced the dissolution of the club, after finishing last place in the 2023 Chinese Super League season and getting relegated back down to the second-tier.

Name history

 * 1994–95: Shenzhen F.C. (深圳F.C.)
 * 1996: Shenzhen Feiyada (深圳飞亚达)
 * 1997–98: Shenzhen Ping An (深圳平安)
 * 1999: Shenzhen Ping An Insurance (深圳平安保险)
 * 2000–01: Shenzhen Ping An Kejian (深圳平安科健)
 * 2002: Shenzhen Ping An Insurance (深圳平安保险)
 * 2003–05: Shenzhen Jianlibao (深圳健力宝)
 * 2006–07: Shenzhen Kingway (深圳金威)
 * 2007–08: Shenzhen Xiangxue Eisiti (深圳香雪上清饮)
 * 2009: Shenzhen Asia Travel (Lejun) F.C. (深圳亚旅 (乐君))
 * 2009–14: Shenzhen Ruby F.C. (深圳红钻)
 * 2015–: Shenzhen F.C. (深圳F.C.)

Youth programme
Since 2018, the club has developed a grassroots football program aimed at improving football in the city and in young people. They developed youth teams in collaboration with the local education ministry in Shenzhen. Currently, the club has different teams of young players, from U13 to U19. The director of the youth training department was Wang Yidi. The Spanish coach, Roberto Mickel Abrante, serves as scouting director and deputy to the youth soccer department in this project.

Kits
When Ping An Insurance took over the club they incorporated their own logo of a giant A that emphasizes the An in their name as the club's new badge and predominantly used green as the club's home colours while red tops with white shorts was the preferred option for their away kits. When Jianlibao Group took over they too decided to change the club's badge, however they decided not to use their own logo as the club's new badge and decided to choose a new design of wings over an orange background that would also be the club's new home colours while green was converted to their away uniforms. When the Jianlibao Group left, the club's Chairman Yang Saixin started to make blue the club's home colours while also changing the club's badge, initially they were two dragons until the 2009 league season saw it changed to a bird flying over a giant football.

Coaching history
All-time league coaching history as of the end of the 2023 league season.

League

 * Chinese Jia-A League / Chinese Super League (Top-tier league)
 * Winners (1): 2004
 * Chinese Jia B League / China League One (Second-tier league)
 * Winners (1): 1995
 * Chinese Yi League / China League Two (Third-tier league)
 * Winners (1): 1994

Cups

 * Chinese Super League Cup
 * Runners-up: (2) 2004, 2005

Results

 * All-time league rankings

As of end of 2023 season

 * In final group stage. Deducted 3 points for causing delay in the 30 August 2009 match against Shenhua.  Due to the Covid-19 control the league was held in a tournament mode.

Key

 * Pld = Played
 * W = Games won
 * D = Games drawn
 * L = Games lost
 * F = Goals for
 * A = Goals against
 * Pts = Points
 * Pos = Final position

 * DNQ = Did not qualify
 * DNE = Did not enter
 * NH = Not Held
 * – = Does Not Exist
 * R1 = Round 1
 * R2 = Round 2
 * R3 = Round 3
 * R4 = Round 4

 * F = Final
 * SF = Semi-finals
 * QF = Quarter-finals
 * R16 = Round of 16
 * Group = Group stage
 * GS2 = Second Group stage
 * QR1 = First Qualifying Round
 * QR2 = Second Qualifying Round
 * QR3 = Third Qualifying Round

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Talk:Jason Giambi

Introduction Steroid Reference
I don't think the introduction's reference to steroid use should mention his apology, there's no call to write this - "Giambi is also known to have taken performance-enhancing drugs during his career but has indicated he stopped and has apologized recently for past steroid use." At the moment the way this is worded breaches the neutral point of view requirement of articles in my view, because it sounds as though we're excusing his behaviour. Are there any objections to removing (or at least rewording) the second part of this sentence? For instance it could state "Giambi is also known to have taken performance-enhancing drugs during his career, an action he has publicly apologised for". At least this wouldn't make the sentence sound like we're excusing his actions. Blankfrackis 09:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

He hasn't "yet" admitted steroid use
its should state it as a fact he said "i regrett using that stuff it should be reworded. four tildes

UPDATE
he said it,nevermind.

WAIT: What's this about "Rodrigo" and cold cuts?! Had never heard this, and could not verify by search. A joke, I presume?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.164.75 (talk) 06:11, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

How Come
this page says nothing of his steroid use ? -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.10.74.104 (talk • contribs)

why does everyone hate barry bonds, but not Giambi? -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.65.213.37 (talk • contribs) {Barry Bonds RulesFOUR TILDES (talk) 16:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)}

Maybe because Barry Bonds has (and always will have) a chip on his shoulder the size of Texas. He is nasty, testy and generally does not get along with reporters and teammates. Anything you ever read or hear about him is that he has always been unfriendly and just not a nice guy. People (in general) like to see guys like him "get theirs". 24.189.35.249 (talk) 20:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

-Seconded. This page needs to at least touch on Giambi's part in the steroid controversy. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 57.77.8.130 (talk • contribs)

There are a number of sources for Jeremy Giambi's admission of steroid use.

The original SF Gate report claimed that Jeremy testified to it in court (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/12/02/BALCO.TMP) and, as referenced on Jeremy's page, he told the KC Star that he used steroids (this was also reported by USAToday (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2005-03-13-giambi-brother-steroids_x.htm) and ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2011867). I'm removing the citation needed from there.

Also, I'm removing "snubbed" - the negative connotation is a bit too strong. --DSZ 21:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Giambi admitted to using steroids, turned his life around and apologized. Bonds still denies it. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.2.199.30 (talk • contribs)
 * "turned his life around",uhh..how is that?

--Well, now that it includes info about the steroids, isn't this kind of speculation:
 * "While it is unlikely given his connection to the balco scandal in 04', due to Giambi's recent resurgance and increased power numbers, media speculation continues regarding his possible continued use of performance enhancing substances, however, the speculation is not nearly as severe as players such as Bonds or McGwire." -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rowsdower45 (talk • contribs)

It's very sad to see Giambi and others how they destroyed one of the greatest sports. I don't know how they can still in there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.233.229.235 (talk • contribs)
 * ....what?

Giambi has never publicly admitted to using steroids. His grand jury testimony was illegaly leaked. He doesnt get the same treatment as bonds and mac because he was honest and apologetic. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pitt1913 (talk • contribs)

Giambi did not publicly admit it, yes, but before the start of the 2005 season, he apologized for it. He has been the only MLB player to come forward with the truth. The beginning of this article should be edited to recognize that this was already public knowledge two years ago.

No need to list the tidbit about his mustache, I mean who really cares? It's silly. Schatzberg (talk) 18:47, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Picture
hahaha, how many home runs has Giambi hit? Why is there a picture of him hitting a pop-up? I say we change that to something a little less funny. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.87.148 (talk • contribs)

 * Giambi has hit 36 home runs this season, and 349 in his career. It really doesn't matter what picture is there. It's fine as it is. -- Nish kid 64 21:36, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess you're right. 72.226.87.148 05:20, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree that it should be changed, if someone can come up with a better one. --Epeefleche 19:21, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Time to put up a recent picture of Giambi in his Colorado Rockies uniform and up date his stats. He's been a wonderful addition to the Colorado team and the fans here love him.

Designate hit or Firstbase?
Does he designated hit for the Yankees or does he play firstbase for the Yankees? Jerrymcdonald (talk) 07:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * He does both, but he usually Designated Hits as his glove in the field is seen as a liability. --Michael Greiner 11:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC)Killen has met him.

Pronunciation of Name
What is the standard for determining what pronunciation is official for Wikipedia? It's true that /dʒiˈɑːmbi/ is how it is usually said. However it is also true that /ˈdʒɑːmbi/ is both the "correct" pronunciation and also the pronunciation Giambi himself uses. Giambi has stated this clearly (and also stated that he doesn't really care, which is why the mispronunciation persists). This is attested in print, for example, in this interview with Yankees announcer Bob Sheppard: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCI/is_11_63/ai_n6355442/

Any opinions on how Wikipedia should treat this? Edit it to /ˈdʒɑːmbi/? List both? Add an explanatory note in the text? I don't think the article as it exists is satisfactory, since it's essentially promulgating a pronunciation which is incorrect. Iglew (talk) 02:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Oldest to hit walk off home run
If I remember correctly, Jim Thome is older that Jason Giambi and just had a walk off HR June 28th, 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.73.217.217 (talk) 17:32, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Manager???
I know Giambi interviewed for the manager job, but he didn't get it. Can we remove this from his info box? Kjscotte34 (talk) 16:54, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Spanneraol (talk) 17:11, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2022
Died February 9th, 2022. 173.69.160.91 (talk) 02:43, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: You're referring to Jeremy Giambi. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:00, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Animal Farm (Full Story)

Animal Farm (Full Story) was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete

Animal Farm (Full Story)
Someone else listed it here, and forgot to finish the subpage. Is this in the public domain? If so I'd say it needs transwikification to WikiSource. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 13:26, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC) Is not in public domain as George Orwell lived and wrote after 1924. Can I speedy this?

George Orwell died 1950, thus it will be PD in 2020 in most countries. Thus it's not for VFD, it's a copyvio. If it were free it would belong to WikiSource. andy 13:32, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Last time I looked into this it was in regard to Beasts of England, and it seemed clear that it is still under copyright in the U.S. One indication of this is that it is one of the books that is available through Project Gutenberg of Australia but not Project Gutenberg itself. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 13:53, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Okay, I'll delete it then. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 13:56, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)
 * My bad... I posted it. I assumed it was under public domain, as I found it at online-literature.com. User:Drange Net

This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like other '/delete' pages is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion or on the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Talk:Eighth note

Regional variation in term
"eighth note (United States) or a quaver (rest of world)" is not true. In Sweden we use "åttondelsnot" (eighth-part-note). It's probably the same for the rest of Scandinavia and possibly also Germany, (music terms in Sweden is, most often, of German origin). // Solkoll 13:27, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I think whoever wrote that meant "rest of the English-speaking world". America, like Sweden, takes much of its musical vocabulary from German, because of the prevalence of German expatriots in American orchestras of the 19th century.  They also call the leader of the orchestra the "concert master", from Konzertmeister.  --Doric Loon 20:01, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I realized the same problem, so I was bold and changed 'rest of world' to 'Commonwealth'. Deltabeignet 03:58, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

typo or wrong word chosen
In the following sentence: "In the climatic ending of Close Encounters Of the Third Kind ..." I believe the third word should be "climactic." I'm new here, so I'll let someone else fix it. (I'll get the hang of this yet.) NewJerseygirl (talk) 01:31, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, don't think the weather had owt much to do with the ending of that particular film.

Eighth or twelfth??

We define an eighth note as one-eighth of a whole note. This is from the following tree:

 * 1 whole note
 * 2 half notes
 * 4 quarter notes
 * 8 eighth notes
 * 16 sixteenth notes
 * 32 thirty-second notes etc.

However, this is in fact the simple time tree, which is one of two versions of the tree of note durations. There is also the compound time tree:

 * 1 dotted whole note
 * 2 dotted half notes
 * 4 dotted quarter notes
 * 12 eighth notes
 * 24 sixteenth notes
 * 48 thirty-second notes etc.

Has anyone planned to give this note a flexible enough definition that allows it to be defined in both simple and compound time?? Georgia guy (talk) 14:19, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Mathematically, it's all the same. There are 8 eighth notes to a whole note and 12 to a dotted whole note, no matter what the time signature is. Of course, most common time signature do not allow for a dotted whole note. Wschart (talk) 21:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

North American bias
Why is this article entitled "Eighth note" when, as it says itself, this terminology is restricted to two countries. All other English-speaking countries -- including England itself -- use the term "quaver". This article should be entitled "quaver", with "eighth note" redirecting to it. Tomalak Geret'kal (talk) 10:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

 * Check WP:ENGVAR. This article is governed by WP:RETAIN, which says that because an American English speaker first wrote the article, American English wins a tie between equally valid Englishes. I've added the American English template to the top of this discussion page to clarify.

Wiktionary
What does this edit mean? It is at Wiktionary, see en.wiktionary.org/wiki/quaver.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  20:52, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

 * Where does it mention "corxera", for example? Hyacinth (talk) 21:02, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see it if I hit "edit". Hyacinth (talk) 21:04, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

"Åttondelsnot" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Åttondelsnot. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 25 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Opalzukor (talk) 16:38, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

15/8, 18/8 etc.
Why are time signatures 15/8, 18/8, etc. not listed, but only 3/8, 6/8, 9/8 και 12/8? Χιονάκι (talk) 12:16, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

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GPL vs GFDL
I noticed that you have uploaded some pictures under the GPL, and I believe I have heard that the GPL is not compatible with the GFDL. Did you confuse the two or did you really mean the GPL? Thanks, Dori | Talk 00:31, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
 * it comes down to whether an image and a page are interpreted as a single dervitive works or "mere aggregation" the same basic issues exist with creative commons licenses and for this reason those uploading thier own images are strongly encouraged to use the gfdl (multiple licenseing is ok of course) Plugwash 02:04, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I meant GFDL, but it seems that I tagged some of my older pictures as GPL. :) Bogdan | Talk 15:17, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Linear B
Great image! (and I agree it must be PD after 3400 years). But do you maybe have a source? I would like to know which tablet it is, or at least from where the photograph is taken. cheers, dab 15:10, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I got it from here: Bogdan | Talk 15:15, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Surely copyright rests with the photograher not with the author of the writing photographed? -- RHaworth 18:37, 2005 Jan 8 (UTC)

Sibiu article
hi there Bogdan, how should the copyvio situation regarding Sibiu article be solved ? Criztu 16:14, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Done. I removed the part that was copyvio from www.sibiu.ro: "Sibiu is beautiful; indeed a delight for the eyes. Eerie eaves shaped like...". Bogdan | Talk 16:31, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

1911
Your "1911" pages have been deleted as requested. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 23:09, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Week
Your vote for African art has helped bring about the article's selection as this week's Collaboration of the week. Please join in trying to make the article a feature.

Image:Gagauzia.png
Thanks for uploading Image:Gagauzia.png. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use if you release it under the GFDL, or  if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much,   – Quadell (talk) (help)   15:50, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk) 18:27, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project
Hi. You've helped with the WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

Question
Hey, Bogdan. Are you online. I want to ask you if you know where to contact some exceptional Romanian linguists with some extra time on their hands. Hey, my ideas seem pretty wild, but then again.(Decius)

 * You could try on the Cybalist. Bogdan | Talk 15:28, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks Bogdan. Decius 00:03, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

You say that you are in Bucharest. I notice Sorin Olteanu is also in Bucharest. Since every time I email him his email doesn't work, I was wondering if you could try to email him for me, and tell him if he has time to read parts of the discussion page for the List of Dacian Words article, because 'Decius' invites him and would like his opinion. Thanks, if possible. Decius 06:41, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

His email is Soltdm@hotmail.com Decius 00:32, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I don't know why should the email work for me, from here, in Bucharest and not for you. Bogdan | Talk 19:15, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Then I guess his email doesn't work. I wanted to make sure it isn't my connection being the problem.Decius 23:21, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Romanian Black Sea resorts
Bogdan, thanks a lot for adding the template to Olimp and Co (I couldn't figure how to do it...) As for the list itself, my preference would be Mamaia, Eforie Nord, Eforie Sud, Costinesti, Olimp, Neptun, Jupiter, (maybe Cap Aurora), Venus, Saturn, 2 Mai, Vama Veche, since these are the "traditional" summer destinations. In other words, I would leave Mangalia out (like Constanta). On a different topic, is this page the proper place to speak Romanian, or you have another page for that? Thanks, Dmaftei 19:05, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

 * Template-ul poate fi editat aici: Template:Romanian Black Sea resorts (am adăugat eu staţiunile). Bogdan | Talk 19:11, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Ashgabat???
Hi. I don't know how often you visit the List of European cities with alternative names these days, but there has been a controversy on its talk page for the past ten days or so, and I was wondering if you would care to review it and possibly intervene. Thank you. Pasquale 18:11, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The photo that wouldn't die
Could you please weigh in again at Talk:Nicolae_Ceausescu? Ratza again wants to include the photo. -- Jmabel | Talk 03:52, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)

Silvia Marcovici
Out of interest, are you sure Silvia Marcovici is Jewish? I couldn't find anything online. Juko 00:38, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Image:Harta Ocean Indian Quake.png
Hi,

It's a very useful image. I notice though, that the concentric circles are centered at the northern tip of Sumatra. Is it possible to make them centered around the actual epicenter of the earthquake? -- Curps 11:35, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I also believe the location is incorrect on your map.

 * The epicenter is 160 miles west of Sumatra. I've reposted the location detail from the article in the image to the right.

 * Also, before I copy this into the commons, is this image entirely built from public domain or GFDL imagery? If it is derived in any way from copyrighted images, I can't post it on the Commons.

 * Thanks for such a timely map!

 * Regards,

 * — DV 11:50, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Yes, it was built from a public domain Illustrator map I got from a free templates site. Bogdan | Talk 12:02, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Found the link: Bogdan | Talk 12:09, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Thanks for updating the location of the epicenter so quickly. — DV 11:56, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hi Bogdan, can you please colour the western part of Malaysia (Sarawak) as the map indicates that that area wasn't a part of the country. Thanks. =) --Andylkl 14:49, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --Andylkl 15:29, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

FYI: An anon user reverted your map back to the last "Burma" version. I don't know how to un-revert it to "Myanmar", or I'd do it myself. Tverbeek 01:39, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hi, nice job on the map. Good enough, in fact, that it's been picked up by Radio Free Asia to use in an article about the earthquake on their website. Thought you might be interested to know that your work is getting picked up by other media. --Michael Snow 01:34, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * As long as we're discussing additional uses of your map, I noticed that Radio Free Asia has changed "Myanmar" to "Burma" (the typeface is slightly different). Is there a strong consensus one way or the other? I switched the map in the earthquake story on Wikinews to the "Myanmar" version, per comments here on Wikipedia that it was the recognized U.N. name, but now that I see Radio Free Asia using "Burma" I'm wondering if we are mistaken? — DV 07:00, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

User:Bogdangiusca/Foto
Like the people above, I found you through your earthquake map. It's quite nice, although the circumstances of its creation are tragic.

Anyway, I looked at your user page to see if you had done any other maps, which lead me to User:Bogdangiusca/Foto. When I got there, it was all lined up down the right side of the page and the headings were all off, so I... er... reformatted it. It's now using the new tag. I hope you don't mind. -- Cyrius|✎ 20:50, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Thank you. With this new format it's much better. Bogdan | Talk 22:07, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Week
League of Nations is the new Collaboration of the Week. Please join in helping make it a feature article.

1989
I was hoping you might drop by Talk:Romanian Revolution of 1989 and take a look at the still-disputed matters. We're making some progress, but the article remains a bit of a mess, and at least half a dozen issues are actively disputed. My guess is that you might have a clue on some of these, or know who else would. -- Jmabel | Talk 08:25, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

Your image was used on rfa.org
Your image Image:Harta Ocean Indian Quake.png was used on the website of Radio Free Asia, here, as noticed by User:Jdforrester.

-- Curps 04:35, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Assumption
I didn't write that paragraph in the Thracian language article: it was there before I made my first contribution to that page. If you're going to accuse, first make sure, that's why the History pages are there. Decius 03:26, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Image:Arthur schopenhauer painting.jpg
Hi, do you, perhaps, have a high-res photo of the Schopenhauer painting you uploaded? If you do, please reply here or at ivan-AT-apnoia.org

thanx!

Ivan Antic

 * No, sorry. I don't have a better pic. Bogdan | Talk 13:01, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Deleted personal attack. MihaiC 11:12, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Opening the file
I'm kind of embarassed to ask this, but to put it bluntly I don't know too much about computers. I downloaded that Sorin Paliga file but I can't figure out what program to open it with. If you're still there, and if it's not too much of an explanation, I was wondering if you could tell me how to open the files so I can read them. When it comes to computers, I'm pretty much a caveman in the stone age.Decius 16:39, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * They are compressed with zip, so, you should first extract them with a program such as WinZip (you can get it from here if you don't have it installed), then open the PDF files with Adobe Acrobat Reader (you can get it from here, if you don't have it installed. Bogdan | Talk 17:03, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it. Decius 17:34, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Votive deposit
Thanks for your change to Votive deposit. You left it with a link to Aghia Paraskevi which is an article about a corner of Greece written by a well known Wiki chatterer User talk:Pumpie. I cannot decide whether the link should point to Agia Paraskevi (disambiguation) (note Agia not Aghia) a page which does exist or to Aghia Paraskevi (saint) which does not exist yet.

 * "Agia" means "Saint" in Greek, so I think it would be better placed at Saint Paraskeva. This appears to be the term used in English by the Orthodox Christians

Incidentally do you know what the technical term (in Greek or Romanian) is for those little metal votive plates? -- RHaworth 18:37, 2005 Jan 8 (UTC)

 * Sorry, I don't know. Bogdan | Talk 18:57, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you. -- RHaworth 07:10, 2005 Jan 9 (UTC)

The File has Opened
Alright, I finally got to open the file 20 minutes ago, and I read some of it, and I like what I see: Paliga comes to some of the same conclusions that I came to independently: 'abur' possibly being derived from 'apa'(though I also have a second option); 'balaur' being from 'bhel-', though this one was already known by others before; and so on. I've seen some stuff I disagree with (I think many of my interpretations are better for instance), but overall it looks great, and he's doing good work: there is hope for the revision of Romanian linguistics. I also see that some obvious connections were missed: 'baiat' is still a mystery to him, but I've clearly found the cognate for that. Anyway, thanks again. Decius 22:55, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I also see that he also noticed that Dusman is obviously NOT from turkish, but from IE, and he cites the anc. Greek word 'Dusmenes' with the exact same meaning, as I did independently: yet he beleives the word is not from Greek. In my opinion, it's more likely from Greek, but was borrowed in Dacian times. In 20 years, you won't be seeing any Romanian dictionaries saying this word is necessarily from "turkish". I've only read parts of the file so far. Decius 23:35, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Magnate wars in Moldavia
Tnx for your corrections to the names. As I expanded the article and added few more names, I thought you may want to read it again, perhaps fix some more names, add ilinks, etc. I will be moving to 1620-1630 decade soon. Oh, and pehaps the section on Stefan Batory may be of interest to you too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 02:30, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

maps
I have seen your vector-based map of Dacia, and I was wondering if you have similar images for larger areas; specifically maps of Europe with the major rivers that could be used as a basis for maps like Image:Kurgan map.png and Image:Viking Age.png (I'm a bit unhappy with the latter, because I just copied the river courses manually, which makes it look a bit ugly and inaccurate). Larger maps for the base of maps like Image:Uralic-Yukaghir.png would also be nice (for these (pre-)historical maps, it's nice to just have the major rivers, and maybe some shaded topography, but no modern borders etc.) regards, dab (ᛏ) 09:23, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Category:Alba county - Category:Alba county

 * Dragă Bogdan, am lăsat un mesaj în limba română la eo:Vikipedio diskuto:Trukoj/Plurnivela uzado de &. Poate ai timp să treci pe acolo. Ai nume de utilizator la ro:? Salutări din München Gangleri | [ Th] | T 23:07, 2005 Jan 20 (UTC)

Jirecek Line
Good idea, that needed an article. Decius 13:41, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

DYK
In case you didn't notice: A (very tiny) version of your Image:Hanul Manuc afara.jpg was on the front page when Manuc's Inn's was featured in the Template:Did you know section. Very fast work on adding the picture :) 68.81.231.127 13:26, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

title: User talk:Bogdangiusca/Archive3


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David H. Munro

David Herbert Munro (born April 29, 1955 in Oakland, California) is a physicist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) who created the programming language Yorick as well as the scientific graphics library Gist.

Munro earned his BS at Caltech (1976) and PhD at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1980). He joined LLNL in 1980 and has primarily focused his research on laser fusion.

He received the Excellence in Plasma Physics award of the American Physical Society in 1995 and was elected a Fellow of the American Physical Society in 2001 "For his seminal contributions to the design of laser-driven Rayleigh-Taylor experiments, and to the analysis and design of shock-timing experiments for cryogenic inertial confinement fusion targets".

title: David H. Munro


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Ferkessédougou

Ferkessédougou (often shortened to Ferké) is a city in northern Ivory Coast. It is a sub-prefecture of and the seat of Ferkessédougou Department. It is also the seat of Tchologo Region in Savanes District and a commune. Ferkessédougou is the second-most populous city in northern Ivory Coast, after Korhogo.

Regional center
Ferkessédougou is an important centre of local development as the nearest large town on the north–south road to the main border posts for crossing into Burkina Faso and Mali. A major transport crossroads, it is home to a regional market, schools, and a hospital.

Local economy
The economy of the Ferkessédougou area is overwhelmingly agricultural, with larger scale commercial farming based on huge cotton and sugarcane plantations. The city is a centre for the processing of these commodities, in particular for cattle feed, as it is a centre for stockyards of herds of zebu cattle, driven from the north, and bound for markets further south. A burgeoning tourist industry is based upon Ferkessédougou's proximity to the large Comoé National Park (to the east) and Mount Nimba Strict Nature Reserve (to the west).

Population and culture
The dominant ethnic group in the area are the Sénoufo (primarily of Nyarafolo and Kpalaga/Palaka dialect speakers). Sociocultural organization is based on the "Poro", an educational system through which every male adolescent graduates to adulthood. In the 2021 census, the population of the sub-prefecture of Ferkessédougou was 160,267.

History
Ferkessédougou is situated in the heartland of the Senufo people, who migrated from the north at the time of the Mali Empire. The Senufo followed traditional African faiths, while many of the Mandinka people were becoming fervent Muslims. The Senufo were soon followed by the Dioula or Jula, a Mandinka merchant class prominent throughout West Africa. The Dioula, as they are called in Ivory Coast, reached the area and settled the nearby city of Kong in the 12th century. Despite being outnumbered by the Senufo, they prospered as traders and advisors in much of the region. In the 18th century, the Kong Empire to the east became a major regional power and dominated the Ferkessédougou area.

The town of Ferkessédougou was founded in the 19th century by Ferkessé, a Niarafola leader pushed to the west by the expansion of the Kong Empire. The name is a contraction of Ferkessés - dougou ("Village" in Bambara).

At the end of the 19th century, the area fell under the control of first Samory Touré's Wassoulou Empire and the French colonial empire. Placed under the Côte d'Ivoire Colony of French West Africa in 1895, the completed section of the planned Abidjan-Niger Railway was constructed north and ended during the colonial period at Ferkessédougou town, lending it increased regional importance. The French introduced large-scale cotton production, which remains an important pillar of the local economy.

In the late 1970s, Ferkessédougou was designated by the government as one of their regional development hubs for industry processing agricultural goods. A 50,000 ton capacity sugar processing plant was built in this period.

Climate
On the southern edge of the Sahel—tropical Savanna belt, Ferkessédougou gets a mean annual rainfall of 1400 mm, making it drier than much of Côte d'Ivoire. It is 1037 ft-316 m in elevation.

Transport
Ferkessédougou is served by Ferkessédougou Airport and a station on the national railway system.

Villages
The 41 villages of the sub-prefecture of Ferkessédougou and their population in 2014 are. • # Fangakaha (193)

• # Ferkessédougou (55 910)

• # Katikaha (289)

• # Parawalakaha (1 048)

• # Tiébinguékaha (1 161)

• # Dékokaha (1 263)

• # Détikaha (1 447)

• # Diologokaha (258)

• # Donkaha (91)

• # Fandérékaha (830)

• # Fononkaha (269)

• # Houphouetkaha (286)

• # Kakpéliakaha (673)

• # Kitienkaha Ou Kitanedou (480)

• # Korobélékaha (137)

• # Koussorokaha (1 427)

• # Lafilé (660)

• # Lafokpokaha (2 886)

• # Lassologo (4 469)

• # Momirasso (8 047)

• # Nagawokaha (30)

• # Nambonkaha (3 862)

• # Namgirguékaha (427)

• # Naniékaha (2 293)

• # Pissankaha (340)

• # Poulo (2 154)

• # Sépénédjokaha (4 703)

• # Sodepra Village (52)

• # Sodesucre Village C (7 663)

• # Sokoro 1 (867)

• # Sokoro 2 (1 062)

• # Solkaha (18)

• # Tchassanankaha 1 (875)

• # Tchassanankaha 2 (1 211)

• # Tchologokaha (84)

• # Tiékpé (7 786)

• # Village Cadres Sodesucre (167)

• # Village Sodesucre A (832)

• # Village Sodesucre B (1 653)

• # Village-Sodefel (1 291)

• # Worossontiakaha (956)

title: Ferkessédougou


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CIÉ 611 Class

The Córas Iompair Éireann 611 class locomotives were delivered from the manufacturers, Motorenfabrik Deutz at Cologne, Germany between December 1961 and February 1962, entering revenue earning service in the following August after receiving the new tan / black paint job at Inchicore.

History
Nos. 611 to 617 were a larger development of the earlier 601 class locomotives. They were fitted with a Deutz F/A8L 714 engine of 120 kW, with Voith hydraulic transmission, weighed 22 t and had a maximum speed of 42 km/h. They went into traffic in various parts of the country, as shunting engines at smaller depots such as Dublin's North City Mills siding, and branch line duties such as the Loughrea branch line between Attymon and Loughrea. They briefly appeared on the Limerick - Foynes mixed train service for a few months until that line was closed in 1963. Unlike the earlier 601 class, these locomotives were fitted with brake connections enabling them to work passenger trains. Apart from their journeys on the Foynes and Loughrea lines, they never hauled passengers anywhere else until preservation in Downpatrick, where all three preserved have served on public passenger trains.

With their original lightweight branch line haunts all closed, and therefore little to do, they were withdrawn from service between 1967 and 1977. Nos. 611, 613, 615, 616 and 617 were sold to Cómhlucht Siúicre Éireann (Irish Sugar Co., now known as Greencore) in 1977. Four of these locomotives have been preserved, with the remaining three scrapped.

Model
The 611 Class has been made as a 00 gauge brass kit by Worsley Works Models.

title: CIÉ 611 Class


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Talk:Friedensreich Hundertwasser

Untitled
In the list of buildings of Hundertwasser, shouldn't Kunsthaus (in Vienna, close to Hundertwasser Haus) be included?

I agree he is a bit weird but i love his work!

See also:
 * Weblog about Hundertwasser
 * Hundertwasser Architecture website
 * www.hundertwasserhaus.at
 * www.hundertwasserhaus.info (German)

Friedensreich Hundertwasser ....... was an Austrian painter and sculptor. Should Architect not be added to this description?

how come there are no paintings that hundertwasser made?

 * I don't think "architect" should be added, since he was no architect and needed real architects to build his fantasies. --mmg 19:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

 * And again, neither by english and english-speaking countries', nor by austrian laws and commons, Hundertwasser was an architect. He did not speak of himself as an architect, neither. He made sketches for buildings, but the construction, planning, and building-work was done by real architects. --mmg 13:53, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Whether or not he was a "real architect" seems to me to be an emotionally-charged issue of point of view. While not professionally certified, or even self-identified (do you have a citation for that?), many of his activities as an "artist producing buildings" (or whatever alternative characterization you are arguing for) would seem to qualify as practicing architecture, and left behind a bunch of well-known, real buildings.  I think the article needs to better cover this controversy, and not steer away from it.  Removing the article from the "architect" categories seems to me to be steering away from it; e.g., someone looking up "Austrian architects" would be better served, I think, by seeing him listed, following the link, and learning about the controversy, than they would be by having this information effectively shielded from them. --ScottMainwaring 16:36, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

 * So the articel should inform about that controversity, that he worked with buildings but was not an architect. --mmg 21:11, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

"Whether or not he was a "real architect" seems to me to be an emotionally-charged issue of point of view." Wrong! There is no such thing as a "real" or a "wrong" architect. Architect is architect - layman is layman or hobbydesigner is hobbydesigner. Basta! (I get sick sometimes, too, would you accept it if I call myself a doctor?) The fact that someone likes to design or decorate buildings does not qualify him as an architect. "Architekt" in Austria and Germany (and in any other European countries for that matter) is a "geschützte Berufsbezeichnung", meaning "occupational title protected by laws and regulations requiring academic and practical training and certification". Anyone who dares to call himself "architect" without this and at whim is (at least in Germany and Austria) comitting a regulatory offence (minor breach of law). So like mmg pointed out already: Hundertwasser was NOT an architect and he was clever enough to never call himself that. He was an artist who designed buildings.--92.231.236.152 (talk) 19:15, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Correction: He was an artist who liked to decorate buidlings. He did not even design them in the way an architect would have done it.--85.179.82.77 (talk) 10:49, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Birth name?
The article mentions that Hundertwasser is his adopted name, but makes no mention of his birth name. Is it known? And if so, shouldn't it be in the article? Grutness...wha?  04:43, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed! --mmg 22:00, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I would translate "Friedensreich" as "empire of peace" and "rich in peace" rather than "peaceland" and "peaceful".. 202.166.27.108 04:40, 7 July 2007 (UTC) (erm: after login that's Sejtam 04:41, 7 July 2007 (UTC))

 * I think that "rich in peace" is the correct translation. If you look at the german wikipedia, they explain there, that he adopted this name during his time in japan in 1960, and the article talks about the terms "Friede" and "reich" where the latter is spelled lowercase. This indicates that "reich" means the adjective "reich" (rich) not the noun "Reich" (empire). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.223.60.240 (talk) 07:52, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

His new name is a partial translation, from Slavic sto meaning 'hundred' – though I imagine the true etymology of Stowasser is entirely different! —Tamfang (talk) 19:29, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

According to [| 99 Percent Invisible, Ep 134], his name was "Tausendsassa Friedensreich Regentag Dunkelbunt Hundertwasser (which translates to “Multi-Talented Peace-Filled Rainy Day Dark-Colored Hundred Waters” in German)." This is one name longer. I can't confirm or deny that. Does anyone else have anything on the topic? Jbsegal (talk) 22:06, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism Reply
Welcome to Wikipedia. You may have removed vandalism from the said page, but my IP address has never accessed this page. Please make sure that you find the correct perpetrator of Wikipedia vandalism and could luck. If my IP has been misused, then I apologies and can promise you that It will be investigated, as I do not tolerate vandalism, to Wikipedia or otherwise. Thanks and Apologies, Mr CGDO89.243.28.35 15:33, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Art work
Shouldnt there be a full list of his artwork. I dont know enough to do this but it would be useful for people studying him. Does anyone agree?--Dagurlwonder 00:49, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I do because I am in Year 8 and have currently got Art homework about him :) Rswfan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.168.97.173 (talk) 08:18, 12 June 2010 (UTC) I am in Year 8  and I don't know about his artwork - but there is still none on Wikipedia. It's been more than 10 years now! (Jack Burton, 17th Sept 2017) 2A02:C7D:9E36:3C00:6432:AF81:164D:8D06 (talk) 16:45, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Drugs, psychedellic art?
I gather that Hundertwasser did at least some of his still works under the influence of psilocybin. This seems relevant to his highly surreal artwork and is unmentioned at the moment. Also, should we add Category:Psychedelic artists? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BenFrantzDale (talk • contribs) 01:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC) yeah that would be great —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.1.180 (talk) 17:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Controversial?
the text: "he became one of the best-known contemporary Austrian artists, although controversial, by the end of the 20th century." has no explanation - was the controversy surrounding his work or his life?--Gonzophotojournalism (talk) 12:39, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

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Inclusion of association with Horst von Wächter?
Philippe Sands, in the film What our fathers did - A Nazi legacy (also known as My Nazi Legacy: What Our Fathers Did), interviewed two sons of prominent Nazi officials, Niklas Frank (the son of Hans Frank, the Governor-General of occupied Poland) and Horst von Wächter (the son of Otto Wächter, the Governor of Kraków in Poland and Galicia in Ukraine).

In the film Horst von Wächter says that after the war, while struggling to come to terms with his father's legacy, he became associated with Hundertwasser. He says that he travelled with Hundertwasser to New Zealand.

"At a certain moment I said to my friend that I want to serve somebody...when I saw Hundertwasser the first time I knew that he would need me and I would go along with him quite well because he was also a shy person, like me, and somehow that he was Jewish that was of course very good for my feelings too. Then I went sailing the boat to New Zealand. That was his new paradise." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antzblu (talk • contribs) 10:39, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

English?
the phrase 'he implemented window right and tree tenants, uneven floors, woods on the roof, and spontaneous vegetation' makes no sense. It needs re-writing. 139.168.49.161 (talk) 21:20, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Hundertwasser Park, Udo island, South Korea
This park seems worth mentioning, unless there's something I'm missing. From the Korean Herald: "Hundertwasser Museum holds one of the only two permanent Hundertwasser exhibitions in the world. The other is in the Kunst Haus Wien Museum in Austria." The article implies that it was built in consultation with the Hundertwasser Foundation. Mgnbar (talk) 13:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

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Vet's papers
I moved the following comment from the article to the talk page. Sander123 13:39, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * MY FATHER HAS SOME PAPERS ABOUT "UNCLE HORT'S ATTALA" THAT WAS OUTFITTED IN SAN DIEGO IN 19944-45 AND I BELIEVE SAILED OUT OF WASHINGTON THEN. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, LET ME KNOW AT:

 * SUSANKEGIN@YAHOO.COM

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