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Rat Island (Bronx)

Rat Island is a privately owned island in New York City. It is approximately 2.5 acres in size and located in City Island Harbor, which is a part of Long Island Sound. It is about halfway between City Island and Hart Island and south of High Island. It is one of the Pelham Islands.

Description
The small irregular island is about 2.5 acre in area. It has a dual-humped appearance and is mostly a lump of Manhattan schist bedrock. There is a small channel that cuts into the bedrock on the southern side of the tiny island that was used for launching small boats. This channel is filled with mussel shells. There is a purple-bluish "beach" made of mussel shells mixed with bird bones on the west side of the island with some reed grass.

The highest point on the island is usually covered in gull bird guano and is underwater during high tide storms. The largest inhabitant of the island is usually a great blue heron that sleeps on the island during daytime.

History
Rat Island was included in the purchase by Thomas Pell in 1654. During the typhoid fever scares of the 1800s, Rat Island was used by Pelham, New York, as a typhoid quarantine hospital for about 40 infected people called the "Pelham Pesthouse". The remains of cobblestone walls and foundations are still there. It was abandoned due to storm floods. Local legends say there was also a lighthouse for a while.

New York City purchased the island in 1888. It became a mini-colony for writers and artists in the early 20th century. It was bought by Dr. H. A. Parmentier in 1908. He subsequently leased the island to the Mount Vernon Club in 1931.

It was owned by a Brooklyn lawyer until 1972 when it was sold to Edmund "Red" Brennen. He said he bought it to do salvage work and store equipment. For many years crane buckets and lattice booms and other equipment were visible. In March 2009 Brennen put Rat Island up for sale for $300,000. On September 26, 2011, The New York Times published an article about the island, stating the property would go up for auction on October 2, 2011. It was sold at that auction for $160,000 to 71-year-old retired Port Authority worker Alex Schibli, a Swiss resident of nearby City Island. Schibli said he has no immediate plans for physical changes to the island, but is considering renaming it Malina Island after his granddaughter.

In summer months, a couple dozen people may come to the island. In the past, during summer the Parks Department used to put waste drums so they may contain their garbage. Sometimes, the local first responders use it to practice rescue missions with boats and helicopters.

In August 2016, a polyester copy of the statue of the Swiss freedom fighter William Tell was erected on the island for the 725th Swiss National Day. The original is located in Altdorf, Uri, Switzerland. In March 2017, Schibli was sued unsuccessfully in a People's Court episode for fees charged by an engineer whom he asked to give an estimate on what was needed to put a more permanent statue of William Tell on the island.

Name
It is not known how the island received its name. It has been proposed by Red Brennan and others including former prison workers that prisoners escaping from Hart Island nearby, nicknamed "rats", used the small island to rest before swimming on to City Island and freedom. Another theory is that when the island housed typhoid victims in the 19th century it presumably attracted vermin.

According to Schibli, the island's original name was "Rattle Island," because rattling noisemakers were used to ward off ships.

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Battle of Muroyama

The battle of Muroyama was one of many battles of the 12th-century Japanese civil war known as the Genpei War. The Taira forces split into five divisions, each attacking in succession, and wearing down Yukiie's men. Eventually surrounded, the Minamoto were forced to flee.

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Glenn Ligon

Glenn Ligon (born 1960, pronounced Lie-gōne) is an American conceptual artist whose work explores race, language, desire, sexuality, and identity. Based in New York City, Ligon's work often draws on 20th century literature and speech of 20th century cultural figures such as James Baldwin, Zora Neale Hurston, Gertrude Stein, Jean Genet, and Richard Pryor. He is noted as one of the originators of the term Post-Blackness.

Early life and career
Ligon was born in 1960 in the Forest Houses Projects in the south Bronx. When he was seven, his divorced, working-class parents were able to get scholarships for him and his older brother to attend Walden School, a high-quality, progressive, private school on Manhattan's Upper West Side. Ligon enrolled at the Rhode Island School of Design, where he spent two years before transferring to Wesleyan University. He graduated from Wesleyan with a B.A. in 1982. Ligon attended the Whitney Museum Independent Study Program in 1985.

After graduating, he worked as a proofreader for a law firm, while in his spare time he painted, working in the abstract Expressionist style of Willem de Kooning and Jackson Pollock. In 1985, he participated in the Whitney Museum of American Art's Independent Study Program. He continues to live and work in New York City.

While he started his career as an abstract painter, he began to introduce text and words into his work during the mid-1980s in order to better express his political concerns and ideas about racial identity. Most of the text that he used came from prominent African-American writers (James Baldwin, Zora Neale Hurston, and Ralph Ellison).

Ligon gained prominence in the early 1990s, along with a generation of artists including Janine Antoni, Renée Green, Marlon Riggs, Gary Simmons, and Lorna Simpson.

Personal life
Ligon lives in Tribeca. He has served on the board of directors of the Foundation for Contemporary Arts (FCA). He currently serves on the Board of directors for the Robert Rauschenberg Foundation, The Pulitzer Foundation , and LAXART. His Brooklyn studio is near where artist friends Paul Ramirez Jonas and Byron Kim also work.

Work
Ligon works in multiple media, including painting, neon, video, and photography based works. His work is greatly informed by his experiences as a gay African American man living in the United States.

Text-based Works

Although Ligon's work spans sculptures, prints, drawings, mixed media and neon, painting remains a core activity. He has incorporated texts into his paintings, in the form of literary fragments, jokes, and evocative quotes from a selection of authors, which he stencils directly onto the canvas by hand. His source materials concern issues of the lives of black Americans throughout history.

In 1990, he mounted his first solo show, "How It Feels to Be Colored Me," in Brooklyn. This show established Ligon's reputation for creating large, text-based paintings in which a phrase chosen from literature or other sources is repeated continuously. Smudges and streaks from stenciled text layer until the repeated lines become obscured. Untitled (I Am a Man) (1988), a reinterpretation of the signs carried during the Memphis sanitation strike in 1968 — made famous by Ernest Withers's photographs of the march, is the first example of his use of text. In several other paintings, he overlaps repeating text to a point of illegibility, demanding the viewer's attention as they try to make out the obscured words. Ligon's Prologue Series #2 (1991) includes the opening text of Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man, stenciled in various shades of black and grey, the words becoming less discernible as they progress towards the bottom of the composition. He uses this same passage of text in Prologue Series #5 (1991), but obscures the words further, creating a further sense of abstraction and ambiguity about the subject.

In 1993, Ligon began his series of paintings based on Richard Pryor's groundbreaking stand-up comedy routines from the 1970s.

In Ligon's Stranger series, he pursues a career long exploration of paintings based on James Balwin's 1953 essay Stranger in the Village. This series began in 1996 with selected excepts rendered in Ligon's stenciling technique that gradually reduces the legibility of the text on the canvas. In 2021, Ligon culminates this series by presenting the essay in full in large scale text-based paintings.

Glenn Ligon's Debris Field series began with etchings in 2012. In 2018 he extended this series to paintings. These paintings are also made with stencils but they do not reference pre-existing texts, literature, or speech acts from cultural figures directly. Instead the Debris Field series uses stencils of letterforms that Ligon has created. The letterforms are arranged in all-over compositions on the canvas. Though recognizable as letters, the stenciled shapes also stack and layer on the canvas, furthering Ligon's career long engagement with issues of legibility, and tension between figuration and abstraction.

To Disembark (1993) and Runaways (1993)
In 1993, Ligon's To Disembark was presented at the Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden in Washington, D.C. The title references to the title of a book of poetry by Gwendolyn Brooks. This show connected the legacy of American slavery to current racial injustices and evoked the recognition that African Americans are still coping with the remnants of slavery and its manifestation in racism. In the titular work of the exhibition Untitled (To Disembark) from 1993, Ligon created a series of packing crates modeled after the one described by ex-slave Henry "Box" Brown in his Narrative of Henry Box Brown who escaped from Slavery Enclosed in a Box 3 Feet Long and 2 Wide. Brown was a slave who escaped slavery by shipping himself from Virginia to freedom in Philadelphia via a box crate. To Disembark the exhibition centers around nine crates that Ligon constructed and dispersed throughout the gallery. Ligon also took note of how Brown was allegedly singing when he arrived in Philadelphia. To incorporate this element, Ligon placed speakers inside the crates quietly playing songs such as "Strange Fruit" sung by Billie Holiday and "Sound of da Police" by KRS-one. Each crate played a different sound, such as a heartbeat, a spiritual, or contemporary rap music. The juxtaposition of all of the songs, spanning a century, is an auditory element which creates a chorus across time, further exposing the lasting effects of slavery. "Strange Fruit" has been used by other black artists such as Hank Willis Thomas in his photography series of the same name.

Also included in this exhibition is Runaways (1993) a suite of 10 lithographs. Ligon asked friends to describe him and then included these descriptions as text in a series of posters depicting himself as a runaway slave in the style of 19th-century broadsheets circulated to advertise for the return of fugitive slaves.

In another part of in the exhibition, Ligon stenciled four quotes from a 1928 Zora Neale Hurston essay, "How It Feels To Be Colored Me", directly on the walls: "I feel most colored when I am thrown against a sharp white background," "I remember the very day that I became colored," "I am not tragically colored," and "I do not always feel colored." Ligon found Hurston's writing illuminating because she explores the idea of race as a concept that is structured by context rather than essence.

Notes on the Margin of the Black Book (1991-1993)
In Notes on the Margin of the Black Book (1991-1993), Ligon addresses Robert Mapplethorpe's photographs of black men from his 1996 book titled, Black Book. Ligon cut pages from Black Book and framed 91 photographs, installing them in two horizontal rows. Between them are two more rows of small framed typed texts, 78 comments on sexuality, race, AIDS, art and the controversy over Mapplethorpe's work that was launched by then-Texas Congressman Dick Armey. Ligon explicitly points out the problems of these visuals in Mapplethorpe's book with his row of textual placards between the rows of photographs. These images, because they were first published in Mapplethorpe's book, had a limited the scope under which they were viewed. Ligon, however, made these pictures public in presentation, in a museum: Ligon forced viewers to look at these images in a room full of others. This act allows for open discussion of the images and the politics surrounding them.

Feast of Scraps (1994-98)
In A Feast of Scraps (1994–98), he inserted images of black men sourced from pornographic magazines, complete with invented captions ("mother knew," "I fell out" "It's a process") into albums of family snapshots including graduation photographs, vacation snapshots, pictures of baby showers, birthday celebrations, and baptisms. Some of the latter photos include the artist's own family. Photography is used as a way of representing multiple identities through the disruption of images, which expresses the fragmentation of black identity, specifically the artist's own identity. Ligon acknowledges that sexuality is something that is not necessarily visible, so it can be erased in photographs such as photos from his teenage years. The imagery causes the viewer to imagine other aspects of identity and narrative of those depicted in these photographs. This project draws from the secret histories and submerged meanings of inherited texts and images.

Coloring book series
Another series of large paintings is based on children's coloring on drawings of iconic figures in 1970s black-history coloring books. This series began when Ligon was an artist in residence at the Walker Art Museum in 1999-2000. There he worked with school children to color on the pages of found coloring books. The resulting works are a series of paintings and drawings made with silkscreen and paint on canvas and paper that are renderings of the children's interventions. Figures such as Malcolm X, Harriet Tubman, and Issac Hayes are depicted in these works.

Neons
Since 2005, Ligon has made neon works. Warm Broad Glow (2005), Ligon's first exploration in neon, uses a fragment of text from Three Lives, the 1909 novel by American author Gertrude Stein. Ligon rendered the words "negro sunshine" in warm white neon, the letters of which were then painted black on the front. In 2008, the piece was shown in the Renaissance Society's group exhibit, Black Is, Black Ain't. It was installed in the lobby window of the Whitney Museum in 2011. Other neon works are derived from neon sculptures by Bruce Nauman. One Live and Die (2006) stems from Nauman's 100 Live and Die (1984), for example.

Ligon's large-scale installation A Small Band (2015) consists of three neon pieces illuminating the words "blues," "blood," and "bruise." Commissioned for the facade of the Central Pavilion at the fifty-sixth Venice Biennale, the work has been subsequently arranged in a new, site-specific formations at the Stony Island Arts Bank in Chicago, Illinois, the Pulitzer Arts Foundation in St. Louis, Missouri, and the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts in Richmond, Virginia and on the exterior facade of the New Museum in New York, NY as part of the exhibition Grief and Grievance. The three words of A Small Band reference composer Steve Reich's 1966 sound piece Come Out, which looped a fragment of the recorded testimony of Daniel Hamm, who was one of the Harlem Six, a group of young black men wrongly accused and convicted of murder in the mid-1960s.

Ligon has created other large-scale installations using neon. Des Parisiens Noirs (2019) is an installation depicting the names of 13 Black models from historic paintings which was presented on an interior facade of the Musée d'Orsay, in Paris. This solo project was presented alongside Black Models: From Géricault to Matisse an exhibition centering the models of African descent whose likenesses are presented in historic paintings and whose biographical details have largely been discovered through archival research. Laure who modeled for Manet's Olympia for example, is one of the thirteen names of black models that Ligon displays in neon. One of the 13 neons included in this work reads "nom inconnu" or name unknown to acknowledge the models whose names have not yet been traced.

In 2021, Ligon was commissioned to create Waiting for the Barbarians for the exhibition Portals organized by the Hellenic Parliament and NEON  in the atrium of the former Public Tobacco Factory in Athens, Greece. Waiting for the Barbarians (2021), uses the final two lines of C. P. Cavafy's 1904 poem of the same title. In one translation, these final lines read: "Now what's going to happen to us without barbarians? Those people were a kind of solution." His neon installation consists of nine English translations, each different from the other revealing the variations in the translation's meanings and the othering role that the Barbarians were forced into. With Cavafy's verses, Ligon is addressing cultural supremacy and its dependency on othering relation, but the tense of the lines also suggest a time when othering as a solution has past.

The Death of Tom (2008)
In 2008, Ligon completed a short film entitled The Death of Tom. It is based on Thomas Edison's 1903 silent film Uncle Tom's Cabin. Playing the character of Tom, Ligon had himself filmed re-creating the last scene of Edison's movie, from which he took his title. But the film was incorrectly loaded in the hand-crank camera that the artist used, so no imagery appeared on film. Embracing this apparent failure, Ligon decided to show his film as an abstract progression of light and shadow with a narrative suggested by the score composed and played by jazz musician Jason Moran.

Exhibitions
In 2011 the Whitney Museum of American Art held a mid-career retrospective of Ligon's work, Glenn Ligon: America, organized by Scott Rothkopf, that traveled to the Los Angeles County Museum of Art and the Modern Art Museum of Fort Worth. Important recent shows include: Grief and Grievance  (2021), at the New Museum, where Ligon acted as a curatorial advisor; Des Parisiens Noirs at the Musées d'Orsay, Paris (2019); Blue Black (2017), an exhibition Ligon curated at the Pulitzer Arts Foundation in St. Louis, inspired by the site-specific Ellsworth Kelly wall sculpture; and Glenn Ligon: Encounters and Collisions (2015), a curatorial project organized with Nottingham Contemporary and Tate Liverpool. Ligon has also been the subject of solo museum exhibitions at the Camden Arts Centre in London, the Power Plant in Toronto, the Walker Art Center in Minneapolis, and the Studio Museum in Harlem, among others. His work has been included in major international exhibitions, including the Venice Biennale (2015 and 1997), Berlin Biennal (2014), Istanbul Biennal (2011, 2019), Documenta XI (2002), and Gwangju Biennale (2000).

Notable works in public collections

 * Untitled (I Am a Man) (1988), National Gallery of Art, Washington, D.C.
 * Backlash, Backlash... (1991), Art Institute of Chicago
 * I Feel Most Colored (1992), Blanton Museum of Art, Austin, Texas
 * Untitled (1992), Baltimore Museum of Art
 * Untitled series (1992), Minneapolis Institute of Art
 * Untitled (Black Like Me #2) (1992), Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden, Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C.
 * Untitled (I'm Turning Into a Specter before Your Very Eyes and I'm Going to Haunt You) (1992), Philadelphia Museum of Art
 * Notes on the Margin of the Black Book (1991–93), Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, New York
 * Black & White (1993), by Glenn Ligon and Byron Kim, Smithsonian American Art Museum, Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C.
 * Runaways series (1993), Addison Gallery of American Art, Andover, Massachusetts; Amon Carter Museum of American Art, Fort Worth, Texas; Birmingham Museum of Art, Alabama; The Broad, Los Angeles; Harvard Art Museums, Cambridge, Massachusetts; Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York; Mildred Lane Kemper Art Museum, St. Louis; Museum of Contemporary Art, Chicago; Museum of Modern Art, New York; National Gallery of Art, Washington, D.C.; Rhode Island School of Design Museum, Providence; St. Louis Art Museum; Tang Teaching Museum and Art Gallery, Saratoga Springs, New York; and Whitney Museum, New York
 * White #15 (1994), Wadsworth Atheneum, Hartford, Connecticut
 * Condition Report (2000), Tate, London
 * Malcolm X, Sun, Frederick Douglass, Boy with Bubbles (version 2) #1 (2000), Walker Art Center, Minneapolis
 * Self-Portrait at Eleven Years Old (2004), Museum of Modern Art, New York
 * Untitled (If I Can't Have Love I'll Take Sunshine) (2006), Warwick Arts Centre, Coventry
 * Rückenfigur (2009), Los Angeles County Museum of Art and Whitney Museum, New York
 * Warm Broad Glow II (2011), Glenstone, Potomac, Maryland and Whitney Museum, New York
 * Double America (2012), National Gallery of Art, Washington, D.C.
 * Stranger #56 (2012), Musée National d'Art Moderne, Centre Pompidou, Paris
 * Live (2014), Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art, Bentonville, Arkansas, and National Portrait Gallery, Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C. (jointly owned); and San Francisco Museum of Modern Art

In 2012, Ligon was commissioned to create the first site-specific artwork for the New School's University Center building, designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, on the corner of 14th Street and Fifth Avenue in Greenwich Village. The work, For Comrades and Lovers (2015), features about 400 feet of text from Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass rendered in violet neon light, running around the top of a wall in the center's first-floor café.

Recognition
In 2003, Ligon was awarded a John Simon Guggenheim Memorial Foundation Fellowship. In 2005, he won an Alphonse Fletcher Foundation Fellowship for his art work. In 2006 he was awarded the Skowhegan Medal for Painting. In 2009, he received the Studio Museum's Joyce Alexander Wein Artist Prize. In 2010, he won a United States Artists Fellow award.

In 2009, President Barack Obama added Ligon's 1992 Black Like Me No. 2, on loan from the Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden, to the White House collection, where it was installed in the President's private living quarters. The text in the selected painting is from John Howard Griffin's 1961 memoir Black Like Me, the account of a white man's experiences traveling through the South after he had his skin artificially darkened. The words "All traces of the Griffin I had been were wiped from existence" are repeated in capital letters that progressively overlap until they coalesce as a field of black paint. At the annual Gala in the Garden at the Hammer Museum in 2018, he was honored by attorney and social justice advocate Bryan Stevenson.

In 2018, Ligon was awarded an Honorary Doctorate from The New School.

In 2021, Ligon was elected as a member of the American Academy of Arts and Letters.

Art market
Ligon is represented by Hauser & Wirth in New York, Regen Projects in Los Angeles, Thomas Dane Gallery in London, and Chantal Crousel  in Paris.

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The Most Gigantic Lying Mouth of All Time

The Most Gigantic Lying Mouth of All Time is a collection of 24 short films by the English rock band Radiohead. The films accompany their 2003 album Hail to the Thief, and comprise music videos, live performances, webcast footage and videos submitted by fans. The material was first broadcast on Radiohead's website in 2003 and released on DVD on 1 December 2004.

Content
The Most Gigantic Lying Mouth Of All Time comprises 24 short films that accompany Radiohead's 2003 album Hail to the Thief. It was created with the filmmaker Chris Bran and the Radiohead longtime collaborator Stanley Donwood. The films comprise music videos, live performances, webcast footage from Radiohead's studio and videos submitted by fans. It includes a performance of "Morning Mr Magpie" by Thom Yorke on acoustic guitar, a song later released on Radiohead's 2011 album The King of Limbs.

The episodes are hosted by Chieftain Mews, who since appeared in Radiohead's promotional material. The journalist Mac Randall described Mews as "a 21st-century Max Headroom" who "intones non-sequiturs". Yorke credited his creation to Bran. In the "My Showbiz Life" segments, Yorke and the guitarist Ed O'Brien answer "inane" questions about their celebrity lives; Yorke's voice is lowered with a pitch shifter, and O'Brien gives answers by "braying like a donkey".

The New York Times described The Most Gigantic Lying Mouth of All Time as "part scrapbook, part video demo reel ... an analogue lovefest of grainy images, strobing and hand-drawn animation, as the fans reflect the vertigo and anomie of the songs". The Guardian described the films as "impressionistic, surreal, and frequently inspired". The title comes from a collage by the German artist John Heartfield. The cover artwork was created by Yorke and Donwood.

Release
Radiohead planned to broadcast the material on their own television channel. The plans were cancelled, according to Yorke, due to "money, cutbacks, too weird, might scare the children, staff layoffs, shareholders". They initially streamed the material on loop on a website, Radiohead Television, that debuted in May 2003 and ran until 2004.

From December 2004, Radiohead sold copies of the DVD through their website. Reviewing the DVD, the AV Club said few of the videos had "multi-viewing appeal", but praised "The Slave", "The Homeland Hodown" and the performance of "Morning Mr Magpie" as standouts. In January 2020, Radiohead made The Most Gigantic Lying Mouth of All Time available to stream free on their website.


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Talk:Web template

Link not being kept
Dear All,

I have written a lot of articles on my blog www.templatesfactory.net/blog/ that adds to the explaination on Web Templates such as imporance of Web Templates, Using Web Templates, Advantages and Disadvantages of Web Templates but none of them have been kept and God know's who delete's them and fo what reason. This is the most recent one and I wouldlike this to be added definitely as a resource for this page templatesfactory.net/blog/2007/01/advantages_and_disadvantages_o.html

There are a lot of other articles on the same topic that can be found on www.templatesfactory.net/articles.html

Please add them as they add a real value to the readers

Regards Hasan Saleem —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hassansaleem (talk • contribs) 18:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC).
 * Hi Hasan Saleem, please note the external links section is intended for authoritative reference. Random personal blogs and sites selling products (such as the one you posted) are not particularly useful. In the past, others had abused the links section simply to advertise. The link to DMOZ is now there instead, so readers who are looking for advertising or blogs can easily find them through DMOZ. You are of course welcome to contribute relevant material to the text of the article itself. HTH. dr.ef.tymac 21:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

TAL/TALES/METAL missing
Somehow the very smart concept of Template Attribute Languages (I'm not the one who invented it, I just created the article) must be built in... --TobiasHerp 07:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Conflation of topics
This page conflates two fairly distinct topics. One is the simple "template" web page concept, meaning a page or set of pages which somebody else has prepared and made available to be used as a starting point for others who don't have the time or skills to achieve the same aesthetic or structural results. The other is the more complex "template" for programmatically generating HTML output, as more accurately described in web template system. While most of the content in this page refers to the latter, the Open Source Templates section and at least the DMOZ link are entirely about the former. PeterHansen 01:26, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Wrong Assumption?
Regarding separation of business logic and presentation: isn't the generic template structure entirely dependent on the business logic? Doesn't the business logic tell you what fields need to be displayed and included in the template? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.166.201.94 (talk) 09:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Missing Sections
A number of sections are either missing or have never existed. I do not have the time, energy, or even the knowledge to create and populate these sections, but they're being linked to by other Wikipedia articles.

Web template is linked to from Web template system

Web template is linked to from Web template system

And I have witnessed others floating around other related wikipedia articles, but as I do not have the time or the energy to append the article with these sections, I don't have the time (at least not right now) to find the other sections that I've noticed are missing. Swivelgames (talk) 07:45, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

HTML templates not included
Hey there! I'm new to Wikipedia, but I feel I can help to improve the article. I'm a web designer/developer so I know something about web templates :-)

Anyways, there's a type of templates that are not exactly meant for separating content from presentation. I mean the HTML templates that are basically coded as a ready website, but contain a fake content ('lorem ipsum dolor' texts and meaningless images). I believe these can be called templates as well, because what you do about them is just replacing the content while the layout stays the same. That's what the whole templates concept is about, right?

So what's next about it? Do I just update the article text of what? Or someone else will have to do it?

69.39.234.2 (talk) 12:48, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

 * It's a completely different type of template, and I don't think it should be in the same article, and not even sure it's worth mentioning. Yeah, there are templates for web pages. there are templates for word documents and CV's and Excel docs an dpowerpoint presentations, etc. I don't think they should have their own articles either. What would you say about them? "There are templates. You can modify them?" :-) --OpenFuture (talk) 07:55, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Merge?
Wondering if this article should be merged into Template processor and Dynamic web page. Not sure it really says anything meaningful on its own... Justinc (talk) 13:02, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * And also just discovered Template engine (web) Justinc (talk) 13:08, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Dynamic web pages are far broader than web templates, also template engines are broader than just web content. There are also web templates in the static sense, implying a boilerplate design for manual expansion. However there probably is scope for merging amongst purely web, purely template-based dynamic page descriptions that aren't specific to a particular implementation. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * agreed. Problem is all these template articles were created way back by someone writing OR, and they are a mess. Going for a mixture of drastic pruning, deletes, and rewriting to try and organise them... Justinc (talk) 16:32, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Awkward sentence
This sentence is awkward and unclear:

"These include 'inheritance' (based on principles of object-oriented programming); and the 'Templating and Generative programming', (consistent with the principles of MVC separation)."

Dougher (talk) 23:45, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

This article could use some examples....
Hi all,

I think we should supply this article with a few examples from the Template namespace to show how templates are used. 68.173.113.106 (talk) 15:00, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

 * No, because the meaning of "template" for a dynamically generated website is too different from the typical examples in the Template: namespace. A much closer analogy (although obscure) would be from the   directory of a MediaWiki installation. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:16, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

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Lawrence Sawyer

Lawrence Sawyer or Larry Sawyer may refer to:

 * Lawrence Sawyer, Baron Sawyer, British politician
 * Lawrence Sawyer (auditor), Internal audit
 * Larry Sawyer, One Tree Hill character

title: Lawrence Sawyer


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List of census subdivisions in Ontario

The following is a list of census subdivisions in the Canadian province of Ontario.

 * Key
 * C = City
 * R = First Nations Reserve
 * S-E = Indian Settlement
 * T = Town
 * TP = Township
 * UNO = Unorganized
 * VL = Village

A

 * Abitibi 70 R
 * Addington Highlands TP
 * Adelaide Metcalfe TP
 * Adjala-Tosorontio TP
 * Admaston/Bromley TP
 * Agency 1 R
 * Ajax T
 * Akwesasne (Part) 59 R
 * Alberton TP
 * Alderville First Nation R
 * Alfred and Plantagenet TP
 * Algoma, Unorganized, North Part UNO
 * Algoma, Unorganized, South East Part UNO
 * Algonquin Highlands TP
 * Almonte T
 * Alnwick/Haldimand TP
 * Amaranth TP
 * Amherstburg T
 * The Archipelago TP
 * Armour TP
 * Armstrong TP
 * Arnprior T
 * Aroland 83 R
 * Arran-Elderslie
 * Ashfield-Colborne-Wawanosh TP
 * Asphodel-Norwood TP
 * Assiginack TP
 * Athens TP
 * Atikokan TP
 * Attawapiskat 91A R
 * Augusta TP
 * Aurora T
 * Aylmer T

B

 * Baldwin, Ontario TP
 * Bancroft, Ontario T
 * Barrie, Ontario C
 * Bayham, Ontario TP
 * Bear Island 1, Ontario R
 * Bearskin Lake, Ontario R
 * Beckwith, Ontario TP
 * Belleville, Ontario C
 * Big Grassy River 35G, Ontario R
 * Big Island Mainland 93, Ontario R
 * Billings, Ontario TP
 * Black River-Matheson, Ontario TP
 * Blandford-Blenheim, Ontario TP
 * Blind River, Ontario T
 * The Blue Mountains, Ontario T
 * Bluewater, Ontario T
 * Bonfield, Ontario TP
 * Bonnechere Valley, Ontario TP
 * Bracebridge, Ontario T
 * Bradford West Gwillimbury, Ontario T
 * Brampton, Ontario C
 * Brant, Ontario C
 * Brantford, Ontario C
 * Brethour, Ontario TP
 * Brighton, Ontario T
 * Brock, Ontario TP
 * Brockton, Ontario TP
 * Brockville, Ontario C
 * Brooke-Alvinston, Ontario TP
 * Bruce Mines, Ontario T
 * Brudenell, Lyndoch and Raglan, Ontario TP
 * Burk's Falls, Ontario VL
 * Burlington, Ontario C
 * Burpee and Mills, Ontario TP

C

 * Caledon, Ontario T
 * Callander, Ontario TP
 * Calvin, Ontario TP
 * Cambridge, Ontario C
 * Carleton Place, Ontario T
 * Carling, Ontario TP
 * Carlow/Mayo, Ontario TP
 * Casey, Ontario TP
 * Casselman, Ontario VL
 * Cat Lake 63C, Ontario R
 * Cavan-Monaghan, Ontario TP
 * Central Elgin, Ontario TP
 * Central Frontenac, Ontario TP
 * Central Huron, Ontario TP
 * Central Manitoulin, Ontario TP
 * Centre Hastings, Ontario TP
 * Centre Wellington, Ontario TP
 * Chamberlain, Ontario TP
 * Champlain, Ontario TP
 * Chapleau, Ontario TP
 * Chapleau 74A, Ontario R
 * Chapleau 75, Ontario R
 * Chapple, Ontario TP
 * Charlton and Dack, Ontario TP
 * Chatham-Kent, Ontario C
 * Chatsworth, Ontario TP
 * Chippewas of Georgina Island First Nation, Ontario R
 * Chippewas of the Thames First Nation 42, Ontario R
 * Chisholm, Ontario TP
 * Christian Island 30, Ontario R
 * Christian Island 30A, Ontario R
 * Clarence-Rockland, Ontario C
 * Clarington, Ontario T
 * Clearview, Ontario TP
 * Cobalt, Ontario T
 * Cobourg, Ontario T
 * Cochrane, Ontario T
 * Cochrane, Unorganized, North Part, Ontario UNO
 * Cochrane, Unorganized, South East Part, Ontario UNO
 * Cochrane, Unorganized, South West Part, Ontario UNO
 * Cockburn Island, Ontario TP
 * Coleman, Ontario TP
 * Collingwood, Ontario T
 * Conmee, Ontario TP
 * Constance Lake 92, Ontario R
 * Cornwall, Ontario C
 * Couchiching 16A, Ontario R
 * Cramahe, Ontario TP
 * Curve Lake First Nation 35, Ontario R

D

 * The Dalles 38C R
 * Dawn-Euphemia TP
 * Dawson TP
 * Deep River T
 * Deer Lake R
 * Deseronto T
 * Dokis 9 R
 * Dorion TP
 * Douro-Dummer TP
 * Drummond/North Elmsley TP
 * Dryden C
 * Dubreuilville TP
 * Duck Lake 76B R
 * Dutton/Dunwich TP
 * Dysart and Others TP

E

 * Eagle Lake 27, Ontario R
 * Ear Falls, Ontario TP
 * East Ferris, Ontario TP
 * East Garafraxa, Ontario TP
 * East Gwillimbury, Ontario T
 * East Hawkesbury, Ontario TP
 * East Luther Grand Valley, Ontario TP
 * East Zorra-Tavistock, Ontario TP
 * Edwardsburgh/Cardinal, Ontario TP
 * Elizabethtown-Kitley, Ontario TP
 * Elliot Lake C
 * Emo, Ontario TP
 * Englehart, Ontario T
 * English River 21, Ontario R
 * Enniskillen, Ontario TP
 * Erin, Ontario T
 * Espanola, Ontario T
 * Essa, Ontario TP
 * Essex, Ontario T
 * Evanturel, Ontario TP

F

 * Factory Island 1, Ontario R
 * Faraday, Ontario TP
 * Fauquier-Strickland, Ontario TP
 * Flying Post 73, Ontario R
 * Fort Albany (Part) 67, Ontario R
 * Fort Erie, Ontario T
 * Fort Frances, Ontario T
 * Fort Hope 64, Ontario R
 * Fort Severn 89, Ontario R
 * Fort William 52, Ontario R
 * French River T
 * French River 13, Ontario R
 * Front of Yonge, Ontario TP
 * Frontenac Islands, Ontario TP

G

 * Gananoque T
 * Garden River R
 * Gauthier TP
 * Georgian Bay TP
 * Georgian Bluffs TP
 * Georgina T
 * Gillies TP
 * Ginoogaming First Nation R
 * Goderich T
 * Gordon/Barrie Island TP
 * Gore Bay T
 * Goulais Bay R
 * Gravenhurst T
 * Greater Madawaska TP
 * Greater Napanee T
 * Greater Sudbury C
 * Greenstone T
 * Grey Highlands TP
 * Grimsby T
 * Gros Cap R
 * Guelph C
 * Guelph/Eramosa TP
 * Gull River R

H

 * Haldimand, Ontario C
 * Halton Hills, Ontario T
 * Hamilton, Ontario C
 * Hamilton, Ontario (township) TP
 * Hanover, Ontario T
 * Harley, Ontario TP
 * Harris, Ontario TP
 * Hastings Highlands, Ontario TP
 * Havelock-Belmont-Methuen, Ontario TP
 * Hawkesbury, Ontario T
 * Head, Clara and Maria, Ontario TP
 * Hearst, Ontario T
 * Henvey Inlet 2, Ontario R
 * Hiawatha First Nation R
 * Highlands East, Ontario TP
 * Hilliard, Ontario TP
 * Hilton, Ontario TP
 * Hilton Beach, Ontario VL
 * Hornepayne, Ontario TP
 * Horton, Ontario TP
 * Howick, Ontario TP
 * Hudson, Ontario TP
 * Huntsville, Ontario T
 * Huron East, Ontario T
 * Huron Shores, Ontario TP
 * Huron-Kinloss, Ontario TP

I

 * Ignace, Ontario TP
 * Ingersoll, Ontario T
 * Innisfil, Ontario T
 * Iroquois Falls, Ontario T
 * Islington 29, Ontario R

J

 * James, Ontario TP
 * Jocelyn, Ontario TP
 * Johnson, Ontario TP
 * Joly, Ontario TP

K

 * Kapuskasing, Ontario T
 * Kasabonika Lake, Ontario R
 * Kawartha Lakes, Ontario C
 * Kearney, Ontario T
 * Keewaywin, Ontario R
 * Kenora, Ontario C
 * Kenora 38B, Ontario R
 * Kenora, Unorganized, Ontario UNO
 * Kerns, Ontario TP
 * Kettle Point 44, Ontario R
 * Killaloe, Hagarty and Richards, Ontario TP
 * Killarney, Ontario T
 * Kincardine, Ontario TP
 * King, Ontario TP
 * Kingfisher Lake 1, Ontario R
 * Kingston, Ontario C
 * Kingsville, Ontario T
 * Kirkland Lake, Ontario T
 * Kitchener, Ontario C
 * Kitchenuhmaykoosib Aaki 84 (Big Trout Lake), Ontario R

L

 * La Vallee, Ontario TP
 * LaSalle, Ontario T
 * Lac Seul 28, Ontario R
 * Lac des Mille Lacs 22A1, Ontario R
 * Laird, Ontario TP
 * Lake Helen 53A, Ontario R
 * Lake of Bays, Ontario TP
 * Lake of the Woods, Ontario TP
 * Lake of the Woods 31G, Ontario R
 * Lake of the Woods 37, Ontario R
 * Lakeshore, Ontario T
 * Lambton Shores, Ontario C
 * Lanark Highlands, Ontario TP
 * Lansdowne House, Ontario S-E
 * Larder Lake, Ontario TP
 * Latchford, Ontario T
 * Laurentian Hills, Ontario T
 * Laurentian Valley, Ontario TP
 * Leamington, Ontario T
 * Leeds and the Thousand Islands, Ontario TP
 * Limerick, Ontario TP
 * Lincoln, Ontario T
 * London, Ontario C
 * Long Lake 58, Ontario R
 * Long Sault 12, Ontario R
 * Loyalist, Ontario TP
 * Lucan Biddulph, Ontario TP

M

 * M'Chigeeng 22 (West Bay 22), Ontario R
 * MacDowell Lake, Ontario S-E
 * Macdonald, Meredith and Aberdeen Additional, Ontario TP
 * Machar, Ontario TP
 * Machin, Ontario TP
 * Madawaska Valley, Ontario TP
 * Madoc, Ontario TP
 * Magnetawan, Ontario TP
 * Magnetawan 1, Ontario R
 * Malahide, Ontario TP
 * Manitou Rapids 11, Ontario R
 * Manitoulin, Unorganized, Mainland, Ontario UNO
 * Manitoulin, Unorganized, West Part, Ontario UNO
 * Manitouwadge, Ontario TP
 * Mapleton, Ontario TP
 * Marathon, Ontario T
 * Markham, Ontario T
 * Markstay-Warren, Ontario T
 * Marmora and Lake, Ontario TP
 * Marten Falls 65, Ontario R
 * Matachewan, Ontario TP
 * Matachewan 72, Ontario R
 * Mattagami 71, Ontario R
 * Mattawa, Ontario T
 * Mattawan, Ontario TP
 * Mattice-Val Côté, Ontario TP
 * McDougall, Ontario TP
 * McGarry, Ontario TP
 * McKellar, Ontario TP
 * McMurrich/Monteith, Ontario TP
 * McNab/Braeside, Ontario TP
 * Meaford, Ontario T
 * Melancthon, Ontario TP
 * Merrickville-Wolford, Ontario VL
 * Middlesex Centre, Ontario TP
 * Midland, Ontario T
 * Milton, Ontario T
 * Minden Hills, Ontario TP
 * Minto, Ontario T
 * Missanabie 62, Ontario R
 * Mississagi River 8, Ontario R
 * Mississauga, Ontario C
 * Mississaugas of Scugog Island, Ontario R
 * Mnjikaning First Nation 32 (Rama First Nation 32), Ontario R
 * Mono, Ontario T
 * Montague, Ontario TP
 * Moonbeam, Ontario TP
 * Moose Factory 68, Ontario R
 * Moose Point 79, Ontario R
 * Moosonee, Ontario T
 * Moravian 47, Ontario R
 * Morley, Ontario TP
 * Morris-Turnberry, Ontario TP
 * Mountbatten 76A, Ontario R
 * Mulmur, Ontario TP
 * Munsee-Delaware Nation 1, Ontario R
 * Muskoka Lakes, Ontario TP
 * Muskrat Dam Lake, Ontario R

N

 * Nairn and Hyman, Ontario TP
 * Naiscoutaing 17A, Ontario R
 * The Nation TP
 * Neebing, Ontario TP
 * Neguaguon Lake 25D, Ontario R
 * Neskantaga, Ontario R
 * New Credit (Part) 40A, Ontario R
 * New Post 69, Ontario R
 * New Post 69A, Ontario R
 * New Tecumseth, Ontario T
 * Newbury, Ontario VL
 * Newmarket, Ontario T
 * Neyaashiinigmiing, Ontario R
 * Niagara Falls, Ontario C
 * Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario T
 * Nipigon, Ontario TP
 * Nipissing, Ontario TP
 * Nipissing 10, Ontario R
 * Nipissing, Unorganized, North Part, Ontario UNO
 * Nipissing, Unorganized, South Part, Ontario UNO
 * Norfolk, Ontario C
 * North Algona-Wilberforce, Ontario TP
 * North Bay, Ontario C
 * North Dumfries, Ontario TP
 * North Dundas, Ontario TP
 * North Frontenac, Ontario TP
 * North Glengarry, Ontario TP
 * North Grenville, Ontario TP
 * North Huron, Ontario TP
 * North Kawartha, Ontario TP
 * North Middlesex, Ontario TP
 * North Perth, Ontario T
 * North Shore, Ontario TP
 * North Spirit Lake, Ontario R
 * North Stormont, Ontario TP
 * Northeastern Manitoulin and the Islands, Ontario T
 * Northern Bruce Peninsula, Ontario TP
 * Northwest Angle 33B, Ontario R
 * Norwich, Ontario TP

O

 * O'Connor, Ontario TP
 * Oakville, Ontario T
 * Oil Springs, Ontario VL
 * Ojibway Nation of Saugeen (Savant Lake), Ontario R
 * Oliver Paipoonge, Ontario TP
 * Oneida 41, Ontario R
 * Opasatika, Ontario TP
 * Orangeville, Ontario T
 * Orillia, Ontario C
 * Oro-Medonte, Ontario TP
 * Oshawa, Ontario C
 * Osnaburgh 63A, Ontario R
 * Osnaburgh 63B, Ontario R
 * Otonabee-South Monaghan, Ontario TP
 * Ottawa, Ontario C
 * Owen Sound, Ontario C

P

 * Pakenham, Ontario VL
 * Papineau-Cameron, Ontario TP
 * Parry Island First Nation, Ontario R
 * Parry Sound, Ontario T
 * Parry Sound, Unorganized, Centre Part, Ontario UNO
 * Parry Sound, Unorganized, North East Part, Ontario UNO
 * Pays Plat 51, Ontario R
 * Peawanuck, Ontario S-E
 * Pelee, Ontario TP
 * Pelham, Ontario T
 * Pembroke, Ontario C
 * Penetanguishene, Ontario T
 * Perry, Ontario TP
 * Perth, Ontario T
 * Perth East, Ontario TP
 * Perth South, Ontario TP
 * Petawawa, Ontario T
 * Peterborough, Ontario C
 * Petrolia, Ontario T
 * Pic Mobert North, Ontario R
 * Pic Mobert South, Ontario R
 * Pic River 50, Ontario R
 * Pickering, Ontario C
 * Pickle Lake, Ontario TP
 * Pikangikum 14, Ontario R
 * Pikwakanagan (Golden Lake 39), Ontario R
 * Plummer Additional, Ontario TP
 * Plympton-Wyoming, Ontario T
 * Point Edward, Ontario VL
 * Poplar Hill, Ontario R
 * Port Colborne, Ontario C
 * Port Hope, Ontario T
 * Powassan, Ontario T
 * Prescott, Ontario T
 * Prince, Ontario TP
 * Prince Edward, Ontario C
 * Puslinch, Ontario TP

Q

 * Quinte West, Ontario C

R

 * Rainy Lake 17A, Ontario R
 * Rainy Lake 17B, Ontario R
 * Rainy Lake 18C, Ontario R
 * Rainy Lake 26A, Ontario R
 * Rainy River, Ontario T
 * Rainy River, Unorganized, Ontario UNO
 * Ramara, Ontario TP
 * Rankin Location 15D, Ontario R
 * Rat Portage 38A, Ontario R
 * Red Lake, Ontario T
 * Red Rock, Ontario TP
 * Renfrew, Ontario T
 * Richmond Hill, Ontario T
 * Rideau Lakes, Ontario TP
 * Rocky Bay 1, Ontario R
 * Russell, Ontario TP
 * Ryerson, Ontario TP

S

 * Sabaskong Bay 35D, Ontario R
 * Sables-Spanish Rivers, Ontario TP
 * Sachigo Lake 1, Ontario R
 * Sachigo Lake 2, Ontario R
 * Sagamok, Ontario R
 * Sandy Lake 88, Ontario R
 * Sarnia, Ontario C
 * Sarnia 45, Ontario R
 * Saug-a-Gaw-Sing 1, Ontario R
 * Saugeen 29, Ontario R
 * Saugeen Shores, Ontario T
 * Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario C
 * Schreiber, Ontario TP
 * Scugog, Ontario TP
 * Seguin, Ontario TP
 * Seine River 22A2, Ontario R
 * Seine River 23A, Ontario R
 * Seine River 23B, Ontario R
 * Selwyn, Ontario TP
 * Serpent River 7, Ontario R
 * Severn, Ontario TP
 * Shawanaga 17, Ontario R
 * Sheguiandah 24, Ontario R
 * Shelburne, Ontario T
 * Sheshegwaning 20, Ontario R
 * Shoal Lake (Part) 39A, Ontario R
 * Shoal Lake (Part) 40, Ontario R
 * Shoal Lake 34B2, Ontario R
 * Shuniah, Ontario TP
 * Sioux Lookout, Ontario T
 * Sioux Narrows-Nestor Falls, Ontario TP
 * Six Nations 40, Ontario R
 * Slate Falls, Ontario S-E
 * Smiths Falls, Ontario T
 * Smooth Rock Falls, Ontario T
 * South Algonquin, Ontario TP
 * South Bruce, Ontario TP
 * South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario T
 * South Dundas, Ontario TP
 * South Frontenac, Ontario TP
 * South Glengarry, Ontario TP
 * South Huron, Ontario T
 * South River, Ontario VL
 * South Stormont, Ontario TP
 * South-West Oxford, Ontario TP
 * Southgate, Ontario TP
 * Southwest Middlesex, Ontario TP
 * Southwold, Ontario TP
 * Spanish, Ontario T
 * Springwater, Ontario TP
 * St. Catharines, Ontario C
 * St. Clair, Ontario TP
 * St. Joseph, Ontario TP
 * St. Marys, Ontario T
 * St. Thomas, Ontario C
 * St.-Charles, Ontario T
 * Stirling-Rawdon, Ontario TP
 * Stone Mills, Ontario TP
 * Stratford, Ontario C
 * Strathroy-Caradoc, Ontario TP
 * Strong, Ontario TP
 * Sucker Creek 23, Ontario R
 * Sudbury, Unorganized, North Part, Ontario UNO
 * Summer Beaver, Ontario S-E
 * Sundridge, Ontario VL

T

 * Tarbutt TP
 * Tay TP
 * Tay Valley TP
 * Tecumseh T
 * Tehkummah TP
 * Temagami T
 * Temiskaming Shores C
 * Terrace Bay TP
 * Thames Centre TP
 * Thessalon T
 * Thessalon 12 R
 * Thornloe VL
 * Thorold C
 * Thunder Bay C
 * Thunder Bay, Unorganized UNO
 * Tillsonburg T
 * Timiskaming, Unorganized, East Part UNO
 * Timiskaming, Unorganized, West Part UNO
 * Timmins C
 * Tiny TP
 * Toronto C
 * Trent Hills T
 * Trent Lakes TP
 * Tudor and Cashel TP
 * Tweed TP
 * Tyendinaga TP
 * Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory R

U

 * Uxbridge, Ontario TP

V

 * Val Rita-Harty, Ontario TP
 * Vaughan, Ontario C

W

 * Wabauskang 21, Ontario R
 * Wabigoon Lake 27, Ontario R
 * Wanapitei 11, Ontario R
 * Wahta Mohawk Territory, Ontario R
 * Wainfleet, Ontario TP
 * Walpole Island 46, Ontario R
 * Wapekeka 1, Ontario R
 * Wapekeka 2, Ontario R
 * Warwick, Ontario TP
 * Wasaga Beach, Ontario T
 * Waterloo, Ontario C
 * Wawa, Ontario TP
 * Wawakapewin (Long Dog Lake), Ontario R
 * Weagamow Lake 87, Ontario R
 * Webequie, Ontario S-E
 * Welland, Ontario C
 * Wellesley, Ontario TP
 * Wellington North, Ontario TP
 * West Elgin, Ontario TP
 * West Grey, Ontario TP
 * West Lincoln, Ontario TP
 * West Nipissing, Ontario T
 * West Perth, Ontario TP
 * Westport, Ontario VL
 * Whitby, Ontario T
 * Whitchurch–Stouffville, Ontario T
 * White River, Ontario TP
 * Whitefish Bay 32A, Ontario R
 * Whitefish Bay 33A, Ontario R
 * Whitefish Bay 34A, Ontario R
 * Whitefish Lake 6, Ontario R
 * Whitefish River (Part) 4, Ontario R
 * Whitesand, Ontario R
 * Whitestone, Ontario TP
 * Whitewater Region, Ontario TP
 * Wikwemikong Unceded 26, Ontario R
 * Wilmot, Ontario TP
 * Windsor, Ontario C
 * Wollaston, Ontario TP
 * Woodstock, Ontario C
 * Woolwich, Ontario TP
 * Wunnumin 1, Ontario R
 * Wunnumin 2, Ontario

Z

 * Zhiibaahaasing 19 (Cockburn Island 19), Ontario R
 * Zhiibaahaasing 19A (Cockburn Island 19A), Ontario R
 * Zorra, Ontario TP

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Khondaker Mostaq Ahmad

Khondaker Mostaq Ahmad (also spelled Khandakar Mushtaq Ahmed; 27 February 1919 – 5 March 1996) was a Bangladeshi politician. He was the fourth president of Bangladesh from 15 August to 6 November 1975, after the assassination of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. He was involved in the assassination of Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman on 15 August 1975. He took on the role of president immediately after the assassination, praised the assassins as "sons of the sun" and put cabinet ministers loyal to Sheikh Mujibur Rahman in jail.

Background
Khondaker Mostaq Ahmad was born on 27 February 1919, into a Bengali Muslim family of Khondakars in the village of Dashpara in Daudkandi, Tipperah district (now Comilla District, Bangladesh). He completed his Bachelor of Laws degree at the University of Dhaka and entered politics in 1942. He was one of the founder joint secretaries of the East Pakistan Awami Muslim League.

Political career
Ahmad was elected a member of the East Pakistan Provincial Assembly in 1954 as a candidate of the United Front. After the central government of Pakistan dissolved the United Front, Ahmad was jailed in 1954 along with other Bengali leaders. He was released in 1955 and elected the chief whip of the United Front parliamentary party.

In 1958, with the promulgation of martial law, he was arrested by the regime of Ayub Khan.

During the 6 Point Movement, Ahmad was again jailed in 1966. Following his release, Ahmad accompanied Sheikh Mujibur Rahman (then the most senior leader of the Awami League) to the all-parties conference called by Ayub Khan in Rawalpindi in 1969.

In 1970 he was elected a member of the National Assembly of Pakistan.

Government of Bangladesh in exile
At the onset of the Bangladesh War of Independence and Mujib's arrest, Ahmad and other Awami League leaders gathered in Mujibnagar, Meherpur to form the Government of Bangladesh in exile. Syed Nazrul Islam served as the acting president while Mujib was declared president, Tajuddin Ahmad was appointed prime minister and Khondakar Mostaq Ahmed was made the foreign minister. In this capacity, Ahmad was to build international support for the cause of Bangladesh's independence. But his role as the Foreign Minister became controversial as he wanted a peaceful solution, remaining within Pakistan in line with the Six Point Charter of his leader Sheikh Mujib. He was sidelined after his maneuverings came to light, left out of a visit to the United Nations General Assembly and dismissed by Prime Minister Ahmad shortly before the end of the provisional government, when the war had already ended. He was replaced by Abdus Samad Azad. Zafrullah Chowdhury alleges that Ahmad did not act alone in this regard and that Awami League leaders were involved.

After the liberation, Ahmad was appointed the Minister of Power, Irrigation and Flood Control in 1972 as part of the Second Sheikh Mujib cabinet. In 1973, he took charge of the Ministry of Commerce in the Third Sheikh Mujib cabinet. He was a member of the executive committee of Bangladesh Krishak Sramik Awami League (BAKSAL) which was formed in 1975.

Presidency
Sheikh Mujib and all members of his family, except his two daughters, who were in West Germany at the time, were assassinated by a group of army personnel on 15 August.

Ahmad immediately took control of the government, proclaiming himself President. All three services chiefs were dismissed and replaced by next in line seniors. Major General Ziaur Rahman was appointed Chief of Army Staff of the Bangladesh Army, replacing K M Shafiullah. Air Vice Marshal A. K. Khandekar was replaced by AVM M G Ghulam Tawab. Mushtaq reportedly praised the plotters who killed Sheikh Mujibur Rahman calling them Shurjo Shontan (sons of the sun). Mushtaq Ahmad also ordered the imprisonment of leaders Syed Nazrul Islam, Tajuddin Ahmad, A. H. M. Qamaruzzaman and Muhammad Mansur Ali. He replaced the national slogan of Joy Bangla with Bangladesh Zindabad slogan and changed the name Bangladesh Betar to 'Radio Bangladesh'. He proclaimed the Indemnity Ordinance, which granted immunity from prosecution to the assassins of Mujib. Mujib's daughters Sheikh Hasina Wazed and Sheikh Rehana were barred from returning to Bangladesh from abroad. BAKSAL and pro-Mujib political groups were dissolved.

On 3 November, in what became infamously known as the "Jail Killing Day", the four imprisoned leaders Tajuddin Ahmad, Syed Nazrul Islam, A. H. M. Qamaruzzaman, and Muhammad Mansur Ali, who had refused to co-operate with Mostaq, were killed inside Dhaka Central Jail by a group of army officers on the instruction of President Khondaker Mostaq Ahmad. However, Mushtaq Ahmad was ousted from power on 6 November following a coup on 3 November led by Brigadier Khaled Mosharraf and Colonel Shafat Jamil among others.

Later life and legacy
Ahmad was imprisoned by Brigadier General Khaled Mosharraf and later by the Ziaur Rahman administration until 1978. Upon his release, he formed Democratic League and attempted to resuscitate his political career, but to no avail. He spent his last years in Dhaka and died on 5 March 1996.

Ahmad was named in the investigation of the murder of Sheikh Mujib launched in 1996 by his daughter Sheikh Hasina, who had just won the national elections to become Prime Minister of Bangladesh. Hasina blamed Ahmad for her father's death. Due to his death, he was not charged or tried. Historians and critics assert that Ahmad was one of the key plotters of Mujib's murder. He has been criticized by Bangladeshi liberal public for legitimizing political murders by protecting Mujib's killers.

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Pygmy nuthatch

The pygmy nuthatch (Sitta pygmaea) is a tiny songbird, about 10 cm long and about 10 grams in weight.

Description
Measurements:

 * Length: 3.5 - 4.3 in
 * Weight: 0.3 - 0.4 oz
 * Wingspan: 19.7 cm

It ranges from southern British Columbia south through various discontinuous parts of the western U.S. (northwest U.S., Sierra Nevada range, southern Rockies, etc.), to central Mexico. It is usually found in pines (especially ponderosa pines), Douglas-firs, and other conifers. Pygmy nuthatches clamber acrobatically in the foliage of these trees, feeding on insects and seeds; less often they creep along limbs or the trunk like bigger nuthatches.

Pygmy nuthatches nest in cavities in dead stubs of conifers, lining the bottom of the cavity with pine-cone scales, plant down, and other soft plant and animal materials. They may fill cracks or crevices around the entrance with fur; the function of this behavior is unknown. The female lays 4–9 eggs, which are white with fine reddish-brown spotting. She does most of the incubation, which lasts about 16 days. The young leave the nest about 22 days after hatching.

This species is highly gregarious. A nesting pair may have other birds as helpers. Outside the breeding season, this bird wanders in noisy flocks. It also roosts communally; over 100 birds have been seen huddled in a single tree cavity.

All plumages are similar, with a warm gray cap, blue-gray upper-parts, and whitish underparts. The only feature not seen in the photograph is a whitish spot on the nape, particularly in worn plumage (summer). Vocalizations are highly varied chirps, peeps, and chattering.

This species is very similar to the brown-headed nuthatch of the southeastern U.S. Their ranges have no overlap.

The pygmy nuthatch features prominently in the climax of the 2000 film Charlie's Angels, in which Cameron Diaz's character, Natalie, discovers the location of the villains' fortress by identifying the call of the pygmy nuthatch, which she says only live in Carmel, California—though the bird shown is not a pygmy nuthatch, which in any case is found in a much wider range. (The Hollywood impostor is a Venezuelan troupial, Icterus icterus.)

title: Pygmy nuthatch


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Unut

Unut, also known as Wenut or Wenet, was a prehistoric Ancient Egyptian hare and snake goddess of fertility and new birth.

Known as "The swift one", the animal sacred to her was the hare, but originally, she had the form of a snake. She came from the fifteenth Upper Egyptian province, the Hare nome (called Wenet in Egyptian), and was worshipped with Thoth at its capital Hermopolis (in Egyptian: Wenu). Later she was depicted with a woman's body and a hare's head. She was taken into the cult of Horus and later of Ra.

Etymology
Her name can be represented with five different hieroglyphs, but she rarely appears in literature and inscriptions. Her name was taken into the highest royal position just once in the long Egyptian history. Her male companion is Wenenu, who was sometimes regarded as a form of Osiris or Ra.

The only king bearing her name was Unas.

Iconography

Unut is commonly portrayed as a woman with the head of the desert or Cape hare, Lepus capensis of Egypt. The Egyptians regarded the hare as an example of swiftness, alertness, and keen senses, but the animal’s form was also taken by certain underworld deities. Amulets made in the shape of the hare may have related to some aspect of the creature’s nature or may have been symbolic of this goddess.

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El Bolsón, Río Negro

El Bolsón is a town in the southwest of Río Negro Province, Argentina, at the foot of the Piltriquitron Mountain. Due to a series of valleys through the mountains of Chile to the Pacific Ocean, El Bolsón has an unusually mild climate for its southern location.

El Bolsón area's first non-indigenous inhabitants were Chilean farmers Lucas Cárdenas and Elcira Estrada, a couple who came in 1885 from San Pablo, near Osorno, and established themselves in the then known as "Valle Nuevo" (New Valley); in 2018, El Bolsón inaugurated the new Public Clock Square after the couple's names. In the 1970s, hippies from Buenos Aires migrated to El Bolsón; some of them practised horticulture and made handcrafts.

El Bolsón has a tourism economy based on an outdoor artisan market, fly fishing, trekking, rafting, climbing, and other outdoor activities in the surrounding lakes and mountains. The nature tourism offers are complemented with the production of cheeses, smoked trout, special brew beer, regional chocolates and ice cream, as well as organic and wild-crafted jams and preserves, particularly elderberries.

Communication
El Bolsón is located approximately 120 km south of the major city of San Carlos de Bariloche and is served by El Bolsón Airport.

Climate
El Bolsón has a cool Mediterranean climate (Köppen climate classification Csb) owing to its rain shadow location. Winters are the coldest time of year with a July mean of 3.5 C with nighttime temperatures regularly falling below 0 C. During cold waves, temperatures can occasionally fall below -10 C. During the winter months, precipitation is abundant (mostly rainfall and occasionally snowfalls), resulting in most days being overcast, averaging 15–17 overcast days per month from May to August. Spring and fall are transition seasons featuring warmer temperatures than in winter. Summers are warmer and sunnier with temperatures during the day averaging 24.1 C in January and comparatively high diurnal ranges, with lows averaging 7.4 C.  Frosts can even occur during the summer months. Owing to its location in a valley, wind speeds are lower ranging from a low of 4 km/h in May and June to a high of 9 km/h in January.

History
There have been many different inhabitants in the Bolsón region. However, the first settlers of the region were the Tsonek. By custom they were hunters/gatherers and seasonally nomadic. It was normal for them to stay in the more sheltered regions of the forests and lakes during the winter and to hunt Guanaco more intensely during the summer and warm autumns. Very little is known about them before the sixteenth century, but through the process of Araucanization they were strongly influenced by the Mapuches. They were the most solid and cohesive culture around and were gaining ground toward eastern Patagonia, through both peaceful means and expansionist wars.

This town was not founded by any conqueror, Adelantado, explorer, or discoverer. This region simply served as a place of passage for the migrations of Tsonek communities, humans looking for game, and gatherers for a long time. Afterwards, it was purely Mapuche territory. Later, with the first inroads of the Europeans in the region, it also provided temporary shelter to those who were carrying cattle and herdsmen crossing the cordillera in an east-west direction, and vice versa, from one sea coast to another. This, as well as Argentina's expansion into the region, resulted in frequent conflicts and disagreements with the Mapuche people.

The founding date of El Bolson is considered to be January 28, 1926. That day locals gathered at the home of Candido Azcona, resolving to create the first politically administrative organization in the region, and signing the charter, Commission for the Promotion of El Bolson. The elected members were: President Pedro Pascual Ponce: an Argentine born in the Province of San Luis. He was a teacher, informant ad honorem of the Ministry of Agriculture, rattle raiser, and took part in the Statistics and Census of the Nation of Argentina; Vice President Candido Azcona: a Spaniard from Basque Country, a farmer, and a merchant; Secretary Antonio Merino Rubio: a Spaniard from Malaga, a merchant, and a farmer; Treasurer José Ulieldin: a Lebanese merchant; pro-treasurer Miguel Anden: also a Lebanese merchant.

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West Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine

The West Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine (WVSOM) is a public medical school in Lewisburg, West Virginia. Founded in 1974, WVSOM is one of three medical schools in West Virginia and the sole institution that grants the Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.) degree. WVSOM currently has 778 students, and focuses on primary care and rural medicine.

History
Purchasing a facility once used as Greenbrier Military School (1812–1972), the Greenbrier College of Osteopathic Medicine began as a private school with a class of 36 students in 1974. Two years later, in 1976, the board of governors of the school donated it to the state, which accepted establishing it as a state-funded public institution now named the West Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine. In 1978, WVSOM graduated its first class of 33 students. Extensive renovations started in 1992 and continue into the present time, with construction just completed on a new 19000 sqft building that includes exam rooms and laboratory space. WVSOM has spent more than $38 million on construction and renovation projects while increasing from one building in 1974 to 12 campus facilities across its more than 50 acre campus, all of this was accomplished while maintaining a debt free financial status.

On August 15, 2016, State Senator Craig Blair proposed privatizing the institution. Blair stated that the institution was diverting money from other functions and could thrive as a private institution freed from state bureaucratic regulations.

Academics
WVSOM was founded on the principles of osteopathic medicine, a branch of medicine founded by frontiersman Andrew Taylor Still in the mid-to-late 19th century. The basic premise of osteopathic medicine is that a physician's primary role is to facilitate the body's inherent ability to heal itself. While originally designed as an improvement on the traditional medicine of 19th century America, osteopathic medicine became a reformation within the U.S. healthcare system while remaining distinct from other forms of medicine.

In addition to a medical education, students at WVSOM also learn holistic techniques and are trained in Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine (OMM), manual-based therapies used to relieve pain, restore range of motion and foster the body's own ability to heal itself. Medical school at WVSOM is a four-year program, with two years of training located at the Lewisburg-based campus and the final two years taking place off-campus during clinical rotations.

Demographics
WVSOM's current enrollment stands at 778 students, with out-of-state students composing the majority (557 out of state :221 in state). The median age is 27, and there are students from 46 states currently attending WVSOM. The male female ratio is roughly equal with 384 females and 408 males. WVSOM maintains a diverse ethnic community on campus, with 161 minority students. AACOMAS reports that 5,298 students applied for admission into WVSOM's most recent class (Class of 2020).

Notable alumni

 * Kelli Ward, Arizona politician
 * Tom Takubo, West Virginia politician


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Ohau

Ohau or Ōhau may refer to the following in New Zealand:

In the Manawatu-Wanganui Region
 * Ōhau, semi-rural community in the Manawatu-Wanganui region
 * Ohau railway station (former) in the settlement of Ōhau
 * Ōhau River (Manawatū-Whanganui)

In the Canterbery Region
 * Ben Ohau, a mountain in the South Island
 * Ben Ohau Range
 * Ōhau (skifield)
 * Lake Ōhau
 * Lake Ohau Alpine Village
 * Ōhau River (Canterbury)
 * Ōhau A power station
 * Ōhau B power station
 * Ōhau C power station

Elsewehre
 * Ōhau / West Island the third largest of Manawatāwhi / Three Kings Islands

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1716 in music

The year 1716 in music involved some significant events.

Events

 * July 1 – Domenico Zipoli joins the Society of Jesus. Soon afterwards he is sent on a mission to Paraguay.
 * Georg Philipp Telemann visits Eisenach, resulting in an appointment as visiting Kapellmeister.
 * Antonio Stradivari – completes Le Messie violin (The Messiah Stradivarius)
 * Jonathan Swift conceives the idea for the Beggar's Opera.
 * Giuseppe Tartini hears Francesco Maria Veracini play the violin, and is inspired.

Classical music

 * William Babell – The Fourth Book of the Ladys Entertainment
 * Johann Sebastian Bach
 * Wachet, betet, seid bereit allezeit!, BWV 70a
 * Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben, BWV 147a
 * Mein Gott, wie lang, ach lange, BWV 155
 * Komm, du süsse Todesstunde, BWV 161
 * Ärgre dich, o Seele, nicht, BWV 186a
 * In dir ist Freude, BWV 615
 * Diogenio Bigaglia – 12 Violin Sonatas, Op. 1
 * Louis-Nicolas Clérambault – Cantates françoises, Book 3
 * François Couperin
 * Second livre de pièces de clavecin
 * L'art de toucher le clavecin
 * Evaristo Felice Dall'Abaco – 12 Violin Sonatas, Op. 4
 * Domenico Elmi – Oboe Concerto in A minor
 * Francesco Geminiani – 12 Violin Sonatas, Op. 1
 * Georgio Gentili – 12 Violin Concertos, Op. 6
 * Christoph Graupner
 * Verleih dass ich aus Herzensgrund, GWV 1114/16
 * Muss ich denn noch ferner leiden, GWV 1145/16
 * Gott ist für uns gestorben, GWV 1152/16
 * George Frideric Handel
 * Concerto Grosso in F major, HWV 315
 * 6 Fugues, HWV 605–610
 * Johann Kuhnau – Wenn ihr fröhlich seid an euren Festen
 * Jean-Baptiste Loeillet – 12 Recorder Sonatas, Op. 4
 * Michel Montéclair – Musette (Les festes de l'été)
 * Giovanni Mossi – 12 Violin Sonatas, Op. 1
 * Alessandro Scarlatti – Ombre tacite e sole
 * Georg Philipp Telemann
 * Concerto for 3 Trumpets, 2 Oboes, Timpani and Strings in D major
 * Brockes Passion, TWV 5:1
 * Germania mit ihrem Chor, TWV 12:1c
 * Kleine Kammermusik
 * Francesco Maria Veracini
 * Six Overtures (first performed, Venice)
 * 12 Sonate a violino o flauto solo e basso (manuscript)
 * Robert di Visée – Pièces de théorbe et de luth
 * Antonio Vivaldi
 * La stravaganza, Op. 4
 * 6 Violin Sonatas, Op. 5
 * 12 Concerti, Op.7
 * Violin Concerto in C major, RV 195
 * Violin Concerto in D major, RV 205
 * Violin Concerto in D minor, RV 245
 * Violin Concerto in F major, RV 292
 * Violin Concerto in G minor, RV 319
 * Violin Concerto in A major, RV 340
 * Violin Concerto in A major, RV 343
 * Gloria in D major, RV 589
 * Juditha Triumphans, RV 644
 * Recorder Sonata in G major, RV 806
 * Jan Dismas Zelenka
 * Deus dux fortissime, ZWV 60
 * Da pacem Domine, ZWV 167
 * Domenico Zipoli – Sonate d'intavolatura per organo e cimbalo, Op. 1

Opera

 * Antonio Maria Bononcini – Sesostri re d'Egitto
 * Giuseppe Maria Buini – Armida abbandonata
 * Francesco Ciampi – Timocrate
 * Francesco Bartolomeo Conti – Il finto Policare
 * Johann Christoph Pepusch – Apollo and Daphne
 * Carlo Francesco Pollarolo – Ariodante
 * Alessandro Scarlatti – Carlo re d'Allemagna
 * Antonio Vivaldi
 * Arsilda Regina di Ponto
 * La costanza trionfante degl'amori e degl'odii, RV 706
 * L'incoronazione di Dario, RV 719

Publications

 * Johann Heinrich Buttstett – Ut, mi, sol, re, fa, la, tota musica et harmonia aeterna
 * François Campion – Traité d'accompagnement et de composition
 * Estienne Roger – Concerti a Cinque con Violini, Oboè, Violetta, Violoncello e Basso Continuo del Signori G. Valentini, A. Vivaldi, T. Albinoni, F. M. Veracini, G. St. Martin, A. Marcello, G. Rampin, A. Predieri

Births

 * February 9 – Johann Trier, composer
 * March 21 – Josef Seger, composer (died 1782)
 * April 12 – Felice Giardini, violinist and composer (died 1796)
 * c. 1716/17 – John Beard, tenor and actor-manager (died 1791)

Deaths

 * August 3 – Sebastián Durón, composer (b. 1660)
 * September 25 – Johann Christoph Pez, composer (b. 1664)
 * October 1 – Giovanni Battista Bassani, composer, violinist and organist (born c. 1650)
 * November – Johann Aegidus Bach, organist and uncle of Johann Sebastian (born 1645)
 * December 1 – Johann Samuel Drese, composer (b. c. 1644)
 * December 6 – Benedictus Buns, Dutch religious composer (b. 1642)
 * date unknown – Carlo Giuseppe Testore, double bass maker (born c. 1665)

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Talk:Kwame Kilpatrick

Book publisher
The book publisher of Kilpatrick's book appears to have been a fly-by-night publisher Creative Publishing Consultants Inc., 19 Hilltopper Ct, Blythewood, South Carolina. It was linked to this address through corporate registration records, and appears to be defunct. The address is a single family dwelling. Bejnar (talk) 18:51, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Duplicate infoboxes
Why do we have two criminal infoboxes? These should be combined. I don't care which one we keep and which one we merge. Does anyone have an opinion? If not I'll pick one and merge the other one into it. GA-RT-22 (talk) 22:48, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

do you have an opinion on this? The second infobox is now out of date since it doesn't have the second wife or the maiden names. GA-RT-22 (talk) 17:29, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No strong preference, but I'd say the box-within-a-box at the top should go. --Coemgenus (talk) 17:57, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks. GA-RT-22 (talk) 21:08, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Planned work
Hello! I know ... uh, nothing about this subject. But I'm going to be doing some background research and my plan is to edit the article quite a bit over the next few weeks, time permitting. In case that falls through, I did want to highlight why I added the tags to the article. -- Jerome Frank Disciple 15:43, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) First, the criticism section is, to a large degree, a great example of the type of section WP:CRITS cautions against. The fact that Kilpatrick's resignation of the mayoral position isn't discussed in the "Mayor of Detroit" section is a bit baffling.
 * 2) The criticism section is also over detailed.
 * 3) I've already trimmed down the discussion of the Greene lawsuit—which, it should be noted, notwithstanding all the affidavits, ultimately didn't even go to trial (a fact that hadn't yet been mentioned).
 * 4) There was also discussion of a Slander lawsuit that appeared to be predicated on the fact that Kilpatrick was ... mentioned in the suit? Mayors of major cities are named or mentioned in many, many suits. That's not enough to warrant inclusion of those suits in the bio.
 * 5) Why is the Carmen Harlan speech pull quoted? Its only reference is to ... a video of that speech. Was it widely reported in other media sources?
 * 6) Kilpatrick's given name is repeated far too frequently. Generally, under MOS:SURNAME and MOS:SAMESURNAME, the appropriate thing to do is use a full name on first mention, and then refer to the subject only by their surname. (resolved-- Jerome Frank Disciple 16:31, 18 May 2023 (UTC))
 * Looks great, you're fixing many of the things that bothered me about this article. Keep up the good work! GA-RT-22 (talk) 17:17, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Updating: I just realized that a ton of information in the controversies section is redundant. For example, and apologies to people already familiar with Kilpatrick: Very briefly, a retaliation lawsuit led to Kilpatrick perjuring himself in regards to an affair; he settled that lawsuit in part to keep evidence of the perjury private; a FOIA request revealed the affair, criminal charges were subsequently brought, and Kilpatrick ultimately resigned. There's one through line there. But this was all split up (and is still somewhat split up) among many sections: Whistleblower trial, Text-messaging scandal, Criminal Charges, Resignation and incarceration" ... and each section seemed to duplicate the information from at least one other section. Trying to work on this redundancy now.-- Jerome Frank Disciple 16:31, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

 * Admittedly, this is really hard to structure. I might have to give it some more thought. It doesn't help that the timeline is all over the place. I'm going to do some more reading to see how some retrospective news accounts handle it.-- Jerome Frank Disciple 17:22, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Requests for comment John Kenney

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was- kept

Requests for comment/John Kenney
This is an expired RfC page. It's continued existance is the result of a campaign by a certain group of users to harass me - see the RfC they have brought against me to see the pettyness of their complaints. CheeseDreams 19:11, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Delete CheeseDreams 19:11, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with deleting it. It should not continue to exist if people are going to continue to edit it. john k 19:38, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep for now, but would favor deletion if there's process to bring it back for evidence. Cool Hand Luke  00:36, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Such as Requests for undeletion? CheeseDreams 20:03, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Wiping the records of such tawdry events doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Let's keep them for reference in case of future problems. [[User:GeorgeStepanek|GeorgeStepanek\talk ]] 02:04, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Keep: evidence - rernst 02:07, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. --Viriditas 03:32, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Why would we erase this?  This VfD does not belong here. —[[en:RaD Man|RaD Man (talk)]] 04:44, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep if only as evidence to support your claim of being the subject of a campaign of harassment. The failure of the RfC to find certification within 48 hours speaks for itself. It would be very unusual to delete such a document.  --[[User:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway|Talk]] 11:25, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC) Revision: I think it should be policy that such pages are kept.  However the RfC page explicitly says: "If the listing is not certified within 48 hours of listing, it will be deleted."  Accordingly I think this should be honored and the pages should be deleted.  The policy should be changed, not capriciously because it suits some of us to record what we consider to be abuse of process, but after proper discussion.  If process applies to Cheesedreams, it should apply equally to us. STRONG DELETE --[[User:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway|Talk]] 11:58, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Er...the whole point of the 48 hour limit is that these pages are to be deleted if they are not certified within 48 hours, so that frivolous complaints don't continue to get attention. I am perfectly fine with this page being preserved so as to remain as evidence should the CheeseDreams case go to arbitration, but I am not fine with this loophole being used so people can continue to beat up on me even though the RfC failed.  Which is why I suggested on the talk page that it and similar pages be protected.  Now, as I said, I don't particularly care whether it is preserved in this individual case, but you all seem to be saying that our normal practice of deleting these pages is wrong.  Which is a different matter entirely. john k 15:47, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I stand corrected. I don't agree with the policy of deleting complaint pages, but that is apparently Wikipedia policy, and you're both right. --[[User:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway|Talk]] 17:01, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * STRONG KEEP. It would be inappropriate to remove historical data like this. I will start keeping copies of such things on subpages of my user page and my personal wiki if these ever start being deleted. --Improv 22:25, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep as evidence. Andre ( talk )A| 23:01, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * STRONG KEEP. -- 01:47, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong keep - Wikipedia decision making and related pages should never be deleted. I would also support removing the listings of other "Requests for comment" from VfD -- Chris 73 Talk 03:34, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, obvious indeed. Antandrus 03:44, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, this is a helpful piece of evidence for the Arbitration Committee's case on CheeseDreams as it documents his/her abuse of RFC system. GeneralPatton 03:52, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep (strong), as evidence, in some ways like the recent Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Talk:Ambition (card game). (But don't short-circuit this VfD just bcz it should not have been started. This VfD seems to be an attempt to abuse the process in order to hide evidence, and such cases may deserve some standing policies for cutting VfD short. But i strongly support our going through the charade of voting down the VfD down within the normal rules, since no one has cited such a standing policy.) --Jerzy(t) 05:46, 2004 Dec 10 (UTC)
 * Keep. JDG 06:11, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep as evidence of CheeseDreams' warmongering. JFW | T@lk  08:16, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * KeepI have something I want to add to the talk page but didn't have time yesterday and day before. It seems that when users don't break the rules they get blocked for "infinite", but when Admins break the rules everything has to be done to cover it up. Par for the course with The Wikipedia.WikiUser 21:48, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong delete This should really be a speedy delete, not a VfD. The RfC rules make it crystal clear that uncertified complaints are deleted after 48 hours. That's an important part of the whole process: users can try it to see if they have any support for their dispute without fearing that raising the issue will be held against them. It is disingenuous to ignore the promise of how that page will be used. It's even worse that the users who wish to keep the page wish to do so to try to demonstrate that CheeseDreams has abused the process. It is they who are abusing the process. I am no fan of CheeseDreams, but keeping this page is just not fair on her. jguk 20:21, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Question - There is a clear conflict here between the explicit policy to delete, and the apparent (near) concensus to keep. I'm not familiar with the case, so please forgive my ignorance when I ask the obvious: "what is the value in keeping this despite the standard?" -- ClockworkSoul 21:56, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Nevermind - I made myself somewhat familiar with the case. On one hand, we have policy that specifies that such RfCs be deleted. On the other, there is some cause to keep these records (at the very minimum, as evidence in another case). Whatever your/our feelings about any user, whatever that user has done, it is wrong to ignore the policies that are in place so that we can maintain some level of order. Surely, nobody here would want any policies selectively applied to them? That being said: I propose that we temporarily delist these items from VfD, and open a vote to amend the current policy so that all such RfC's are archived regardless of their outcome. -- ClockworkSoul 22:14, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Delete uncertified RfCs, keep certified ones. Gamaliel 00:48, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. IMO VfD is not the place for this discussion, but best now to just let this vote proceed and (hopefully) fail. Andrewa 16:22, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. This really should be archived and the 48-hour rule re Rfc pages should be revised. It is too important even if for no other reason than to show how things can get out of hand. Dieter Simon 20:07, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. Prolonging this dispute is in violation of policy.  --[[User:Eequor| ᓛᖁ  [[Image:Venus symbol (blue).gif|♀]] [ ᑐ ]]] 20:34, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. While we have a policy that such pages should be deleted, we have no policy about whether they might not be undeleted if they might provide evidence (for or against someone). There is reason at present why they should exist. Jallan 00:29, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. follow policy.  see reasoning above. Wolfman 19:20, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.