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User talk:Luigizanasi

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Redirect duplicate pages
If you merge any content from an article, it cannot be speedy deleted for licensing reasons. Just redirect it, redirects are cheap. Kappa 08:58, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

DoCB verifications
Hi Luigizanasi, thanks for helping out with curating the DoCB entries, I can sure use the help. One favour I might ask is that for the ones you verify, besides checking that the DoCB entry is correct, would you mind also checking to see that the birth and death dates are correct with the DoCB entry and that they are in a standard format (with the ndash separator, and places of death and birth mentioned in the body of the text, not in the date range section). Once again, thanks for helping out! Cheers, Fawcett5 14:26, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

endashes
Hi Luigi, the reason for replacing the hyphens with endashes in dates is mostly pure typography weeniesm on my part. Normally, ndashes are prefered for closed ranges such as dates. See dash for a general breakdown of when to use what dash. Actually, there is also a subsection of the Manual of Style that deals specifically with how dashes should be used on wikipedia.. see Manual of Style (dashes). Thanks again for all of your contributions, it has really helped out. Cheers, Fawcett5 20:35, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"Le" vs. "le", etc.
Luigi, thanks for explaining about the various usage forms for these, I'll try and do as you suggest and use redirects as much as possible. The capitalisation issue (and also the smart quotes, and the "MacX" vs. "Macx" problem) are a holdover from when I generated a database dump of all the names from the DoCB website... Everything was dumped out in all caps in lastname-firstname order — I had to run quite a long series of text conversions to try and get things rendered correctly. I didn't always get things right. Forgetting to replace the smart quotes with straight quotes was but one example (you also noticed the "Et" capitalisation problem). Feel free to replace them en masse in the lists if you desire. I'm aware that their use is discouraged in article titles. But in any case, it is rumoured that the next version of the wiki software will make that problem go away, and treat the straight and curly quotes identically. I hope this is true. Cheers, Fawcett5 20:47, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Dawson City
Thanks for the clarification... my initial concern was to communicate it was incorporated as a "town" despite its name, and your current revision gets that across quite nicely. -The Tom 20:53, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wood names
Thanks for the note; I'll have more of a think about it later (it's getting late here and I'm very tired after several late nights!), but as a first thought, any of these mis-named woods should only be cited under heavy qualification to make it absolutely clear that they are confusing and not the correct names for the species involved, nor valid uses of the names which belong to other taxa. I am of the opinion that wikipedia should be encouraging accuracy and education, rather than logging (and by implication condoning) every mis-naming and mis-identification that's ever been made. So perhaps something on the lines of: *Mahogany **Mahogany (African) (Khaya ivorensis) **Mahogany (West Indies or Cuban) (Swietenia mahagoni) **Mahogany (Honduras, Central and South America) (Swietenia macrophylla) **"Mahogany" (Philippine) - not a mahogany; see Meranti Of the FPL's Wood Handbook, I think it should be included, but only as one of a set of links to several international sources; otherwise it ends up leaving a rather unpleasant US-POV taste to things. Being more of a botanist than a wood scientist, I unfortunately don't know of good international sources, but I'd guess there'll be some around. Outside of wikipedia, maybe someone should be taking these sellers to court under trades descriptions legislation so as to get labelling improved, but that's another matter altogether! - MPF 23:18, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yukon map
Fixed! -- Earl Andrew - talk 05:45, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Shanawdithit/Temp
Hi, I was wondering if you were done with this temp sub-page. If so, was wondering if you could request its speedy del, so it's not in main namespace, or you could always move it to a sub-page of your userpage. Thanks. ∞ Who ? ¿ ? 22:57, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

First Nations in the Yukon
Hi Luigizanasi, thanks for catching my mistakes in Template:First Nations in the Yukon. I'll add the two First Nations that weren't supposed to be there into the BC list.

My feeling about diacritics is that if a First Nation includes them in self-identification, we should use them in our lists. If you could add diacritics to the names of First Nations that you know use them I'd appreciate it. Thanks for your help, Kurieeto 17:06, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Oh, and because the Kwanlin Dun First Nation article is in Category:Aboriginal peoples in the Canadian Arctic, which is within Category:Yukon, I don't think the article also needs to be within Category:Yukon. However, with +600 First Nations/Bands in Canada we may be headed for needing Category:First Nations in the Yukon, Category:First Nations in British Columbia, etc. Kurieeto 17:14, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Hi Luigi - Great work on your recent articles for First Nations in the Yukon. Thanks to your efforts the Yukon is the first Canadian territory or province for which Wikipedia has articles for all First Nations within its borders. Well done! Kurieeto 23:58, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

Categorization of Aboriginal peoples in Canada
Hi Luigi,

Thanks for your comments about the categorization of articles about First Nations in Canada. I agree that the current structure could be improved. Your other points about First Nations-matters are also good, and I'll address them below.

I wanted to begin our discussion with an explanation of my original vision for the "Aboriginal peoples in _" categories. I created them because at the time Category:First Nations (then Category:Canadian First Nations) had no sub-categorization at the provincial or territorial level, and only had articles for First Nations ethnicities such as Cree or Nisga'a, and nothing for First Nations political entities such as the Tsuu T'ina Nation. Additionally there was no parent category above Category:First Nations, so the Inuit and Métis were not on an equal footing. I felt a need for categories that encompassed the various First Nations, Inuit, and Métis groups, media outlets, and organizations that existed within each province and territory of Canada. In the event that insufficent articles on a province or territory existed on Wikipedia, I grouped them by region such as the Canadian Arctic, the Prairie Provinces, or Atlantic Canada. But as you point out the current arrangement is flawed, as articles such as the Kwanlin Dün First Nation are not within Category:First Nations, which is very counter-intuitive.

Given that there are over 600 First Nations or Bands in Canada, I feel a need for categories that only contain those political/organizational entities. My difficulty is that if we name these categories "First Nations in _", we will need some other name for its parent category that will encompass all First Nations-topics related to that province or territory. This would be avoided if we grouped First Nations or Bands in a category called "First Nations Bands in _". Or "First Nations and Bands in _". Then we could call the parent category "First Nations in _". I hope that makes sense, I'll try making a visual representation:

Category:First Nations
 * Category:First Nations in the Yukon
 * Tagish
 * Category:First Nations and Bands in the Yukon
 * Kwanlin Dün First Nation

This arrangement would then allow us to put say Raven's Eye, a newspaper about Aboriginal issues in BC and the Yukon, in Category:First Nations in the Yukon. Does that work? This category would prove most useful in provinces and territories with many First Nations and Bands, such as British Columbia, where there are over 150.

 * My last-night's comments about the problems with the shifting semantics of "First Nation(s)" come to the fore here, I'd say. To me, coming from fairly heavy Indian country (Lillooet and Mission, and frankly a lot of my friends and happy chance acquaintances over the years in the city have been First Nations people), the term means ethnicity and can be used for a government.  I have a rougher time with using it as a general adjective (and not just because it's cumbersome and dorky in speech and in writing, more often than not).  So Raven's Eye to me clearly is not a "First Nation" as the syntax of that category implies; as it is, the First Nation category includes bands, communities, and ethnicities (until First Nations governments was coined).  In this case, along with First Nations Drum in BC and other publications, I suggest a category "First Nations media [in BC/YT/AB etc]".  I'll get back to reading your dialoguing now, just to close this bit with the comment that I've been having a deuce of a time figuring out which of which existing article/stub deserves the First Nations tag - anything that is connected to First Nations can currently have it, be it a magazine as above, North of 60 or bios, and failing it (if not an ethnicity or band) what else to give it; I'd say further categories, "Archaeology of First Nations [in BC/YT/AB etc]" (for Keatley Creek, Xa:ytem, something on Old Crow), "History/Politics of First Nations [in BC/YT/AB etc]" (both or either), "First Nations culture [in BC/YT/AB etc]", "First Nations bios" and so on.Skookum1 16:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

As for templates, I started dividing by tribal council because I couldn't think of a better way to seperate all the First Nations in BC. Other than grouping the Vancouver Island ones together, there wasn't an easy geographic division. I had planned to group any First Nation not in a tribal council into a template titled "Unaffiliated First Nations in _". My work on that project has gotten sidetracked though.

Your points about the term "Canadian Arctic" being a misnomer are good, and I agree that using "Canada's Territories" or "Canadian Territories" would be better.

Thanks also for splitting the Kaska article. Similar problems are rampant in Category:Aboriginal peoples in British Columbia.

Please give me your thoughts on the above. I think we're making a good start in re-organization. Kurieeto 01:33, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi Luigi,

 * That's a brilliant idea to use "First Nations governments in", it really solves all our problems, well done. I fully support your organizational flow chart as displayed on my talk page, let's use that.  My only comment would be that because there are so many First Nations reserves in Canada (a number equal to or more than the number of First Nations themselves), we could have a series of "First Nations reserves in" categories, to be part of the "First Nations in" categories.  So we would have:

 * Category:Aboriginal peoples in the Canadian Arctic and Category:First Nations
 * Category:First Nations in the Yukon
 * Category:First Nations governments in the Yukon
 * Category:First Nations reserves in the Yukon

 * By the way, I've been considering suggesting doing away with all "Aboriginal peoples in" categories except Category:Aboriginal peoples in Canada. They may just be confusing things for new readers too much, and we may not have enough Métis and Inuit articles to warrant them existing right now anyway.

 * When I get back to working with the templates I'll try to effectively work in First Nations ethnicities. I'd encourage you to keep trying to work them in too.  Template:Canada might be a good Template to try to work from, as it has two distinct rows that might be easily modified to our purposes. Kurieeto 17:38, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

Templates
Hi Luigi,

I've adapted your proposed First Nations category structure to the other provinces and regions of Canada for which we have categories on Wikipedia. I may propose to do away with all of the Aboriginal peoples categories except Category:Aboriginal peoples in Canada, if I do I'll give you a heads up and a link to where they are on Categories for deletion. Also, we may need seperate templates for First Nations peoples and First Nations governments in a province or territory. This is because for example presently all First Nations governments in Template:First Nations in the Yukon are being listed in Category:First Nations in the Yukon and Category:First Nations governments in the Yukon. This is due to the Template's categorization in Category:First Nations in the Yukon. Any category that is applied to a template is also applied to all links within that template. Have a great weekend, Kurieeto 23:28, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi Luigi,

 * The only advantage to keeping templates in categories is it would make individually categorizing each article within a template redundant. This would be useful if all of a template's articles eventually needed to be moved to a brand new category, as changing the categorization of the template would then change the categorization of all articles in it. But I don't see that as being likely neccessary now that we have our "First Nations governments" categories.  So, we can proceed with taking templates out of categories, and keeping the lists of peoples and governments together.  Kurieeto 02:47, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

 * Skookum1 2nd note: about the above. There's situations, again with Somena mentioned elsewhere, where the people and government are somewhat indeterminate and well as indistinguishable; in the Somena's case because they're not a "legal" government, but one of the ancient social divisions of the peoples of the Cowichan valley; what we might call a "chieftaincy" but that's an imposed concept (if you read the Somena page you'll see what I mean....I think).  Bottom line is, frankly, we're imposing a rational order based on our concepts (separate concepts) of ethnicity, language and government; in some First Nations culture that's a lot harder to do; so the Somena are NOT a First Nations government in the white man's way of thinking, or even in the thinking of the Union of BC Indian Chiefs (which is an organization of whiteman-system band governments and tribal councils created by the Indian Act, the reserve system, and Government Agents et al); but it would be touchy to exclude the Somena from equal status in a template, say, with their neighbours/kin the Quamichan.  All too confusing for a cultus whiteman at this hour of the night so I'm going to bed now....Skookum1 07:32, 17 June 2006 (UTC)  Except to add consider Nuu-chah-nulth, which does not include Ditidaht and a few other Aht peoples; but the Aht, usually known as the Nootka, use the term Nuu-chah-nulth for their ethnicity as well as for their language as well as for their group organization (which does not include the Ditidaht).  The Kwakwaka'wakw do the same (the name means "speakers of Kwak'wala, but the Kwagyulh (Fort Rupert) and Laich-kwil-tach are Kwak'wala speakers too.  What's in a name?  Lots of politics, apparently; similarly with breakaway groups within the St'at'imc and Nlaka'pamux and Secwepemc and so many other areas/peoples; where the ancient name of the people/language has been somewhat coopted by an official/large grouping.....needless to say there's many articles which are tangled in amidst each other, and the surgery is going to be delicate separating them and figuring out what goes where, and with who and why......Skookum1 07:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey, Skookum1 here. I'm going to have to study all of the above at leisure and see what's going on. I wrote some stuff on User talk:Kurieeto just now by way of example, although I didn't try the category-trees like you have above; I'll give this some more thought and read over your stuff; lately I've been working my way through a draft proposal for a Wikiproject British Columbia at User:Buchanan-Hermit/WikiProject-Sandbox, using the table format from the Indigenous peoples project, and it brought home to me the complexity of the issue in some areas (the Carrier area's going to be crazy to work out; Lheidli Tenneh, Dinazdli (?), Carrier, Dakelh, Babine, Witsuweten, Wet'su-we'ten, Ulgatcho, Itcha, Nazko and more are all identities/groupings within that (theoretically "Carrier" but that now is associated with a particular tribal council so not used by breakaway groups; I think Dakelh is the ethnic collectivity but I can't figure it out exactly; I don't live up there....), and there's isolated no-grouping governments and large-scale groupings which have no geographic continuity (except as claimed in land claims positions; conflicting of course as with Musqueam, Squamish, Tsawwassen, Burrard/Tsleil-wau-tuth and Coquitlam all overlapping where I live (Burnaby)). So have a look at what I told Kurieeto, and as I recall you're also a BC/Vancouver person, so give me your thoughts on the BC Wikiproject (I'm thinking of moving the tables I've constructed to various List and subsection talk pages where they might be more useful; as I've already done with the rivers section q.v.). Gotta zzzzzzz Skookum1 07:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Proposal to consider: "Category:First Nations languages in British Columbia", outside the usual linguistics hierarchy alluded to above. I've field this by User:Billposer who's a linguistics contributor from BC to get his reactions; I just think the First Nations category, while it could include ethnographic and individual-item articles, should have a BC-defined subcat for languages/dialects; presumably also for AB, YT, ON etc. I also spent a while this morning removing "Native American tribes" cat from a lot of BC people/band pages; that cat's probably all over the place in First Nations (in Canada) but I haven't gone outside BC with this yet.Skookum1 22:12, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

yukon election
Hello, I have been trying to create some pages for the Yukons' general elections for some time now. I created the pages for the election of 2000, 2002, and the upcoming 2006. Since you come from the YuKon (I'm in Ontario), do you know where I can find the results of general elections before 2000. Especially the 1996 election. PS. Keep watch on the Yukon general election, 2006.

 * User:MS123

This may be a odd question, but was Jack Cable the Liberal leader at the time? Nevermind I found it. Wow you went up against the Premier, bold move!
 * User:MS123
 * User:MS123

Metalworking wikiproject?
I've noticed you making edits to drill bit... do you think a metalworking (maybe including woodworking due to the high amount of overlap) wikiproject would be a good idea? I've noticed the metalworking articles are rather fragmented, and have found many pages without a single link to them, such as endmill (which I've sinced added many to)... plus lots of (often conflicting) duplication. A bit of coherent orginization and a navigation footer might be quite a help for the pages... or any other ideas? Thanks, Bushytails 05:45, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Native American name controversy
Very nice work on Native American name controversy. I made one minor correction, but overall it's a much better article for your work, thanks! -Harmil 09:45, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Woodworking wikiproject
This message was sent to User:Carders User:SilentC User:Boinger User:RJP Hello, I have noticed that you have recently been making a number of valuable edits on woodworking-related pages. I would like to start a Wikiproject on woodworking if there is enough interest. Please reply on my user talk page if you think this is a good idea (oer even if you don't. I have taken a stab at a starting a wikiproject page in a sandbox page at User:Luigizanasi/sandbox. Feel free to edit it and to add your ideas. As soon as we have enough participants, I will start the project page at Wikiproject Woodworking. Luigizanasi 22:05, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I am not familiar with the objective of a wikiproject - is it simply a page in which several users coordinate a collection of topic-related pages? It seems reasonable to take such an approach but I cannot guarantee a large time commitment on my part. Hilmar 03:42, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * G'day Luigi. I noticed you'd been in tidying up a bit after me. I meant to drop in and say thanks, so thanks! If we can get enough interest in a woodworking project, I'll be glad to be involved. As you know the information there now is patchy and not well organised. It would be good to get some sort of consistency across it. Count me in. SilentC 22:24, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Time for adminship
Hi Luigi — since you began here, you have been a very solid contributor, and I recently noticed that you are now past 2000 edits, with lots of articles to your credit. Please let me know if you would like to be nominated for administrator privileges. Regards, Fawcett5 01:52, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I understand the feeling perfectly. But the rollback button alone is worth the price of admission. Please let me know if you reconsider at any time. Fawcett5 23:48, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Indigenous
No worries -Harmil 22:54, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Yukon
Thanks for the update. I'll make the changes to the election page. Feel free to check out my user page for a riding by riding prediction. MS123 00:44, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Hey, you're an economist. How many years did you go to school? MS123

Thankyou, I know that seemed like an odd question but I'd like to become an economist myself. MS123

Thanks
Thanks for the award, Luigi!! SilentC 22:02, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Category:Woodworking Machine
Just got back from lunch and was looking at that and realised I'd stuffed it up. Is it an easy fix? Do you reckon it should be 'machines' or 'machinery' like it was before? SilentC 04:51, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks. What 'is' the protocol with responding to these things? Do I respond on your talk page, or mine. How do you know I responded if I respond on mine? Confusing.... ;) SilentC 05:33, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Monitoring Changes
Luigi, I've noticed you seem to be able to tell when I've added new articles (because you're following along adding the Categories, which I always seem to forget to do :o) and I was wondering how you find them? I've looked at Recent Changes and it seems to go on and on for pages. What's the secret?

BTW I almost got into my first fight the other day. I moved rebate (marketing) and created a disambig page for rebate but forgot to update all the links to the old rebate page. My memory isn't what it used to be....

Cheers, Darren. SilentC 05:24, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Just blind luck then, eh ;). Oh well, I was hoping for a magical 'show all woodworking-related articles' link. Not to worry, I've got plenty to do without looking for more trouble to get into :) SilentC 05:47, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Can of Worms
Thanks for your support, I did not know of the drive to change X Politics to Politics of X until now. It seems rather silly, I didn't realize what a big can of worms I just opened up. --Cloveious 04:07, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

CBW RfA
Just a quick word of thanks for voting on my RfA. If you have any concerns over my actions please let me know. CambridgeBayWeather 23:44, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Electoral Districts
I would like to invite you to participate in WikiProject Electoral districts in Canada. It is just getting started so please read through the proposal, familiarize yourself with the options/examples and then participate in the debate about how the pages should best be laid out. --maclean25 00:31, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I removed our exchange at WikiProject Electoral districts in Canada/Demographics in order to keep the page tidy (yes, fruitless in the long run). I placed the links at WikiProject Electoral districts in Canada/References. I wish to first establish the Demographics page as a voting page like the VfD pages before it gets bogged down in comments. The goal there is to get a list of appropriate data/demographics so that we can move onto figuring out what data goes where (ie. population in infobox, animals by year of birth in tables, etc). You can help by putting a support or object by one of the proposals. However, if you think it was inappropriate to remove your comment you can revert. --maclean25 08:13, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Dictionary of Candian Biography
I have responded to your query at DoCB about search capabilities. I'm not sure if you are watching the page, but I just wanted to make sure that someone has responded to your question (over two months later). --Reflex Reaction 14:06, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Native American name controversy, too
Had a quick look at this page after seeing the note farther above. Didn't want to mess with your prose style, but it might be worth adding some info if you can incorporate it with less than my usual verbiage:

"Native American" is unsuitable for aboriginal people in Canada, where "First Nations" or "Native" is preferred. In Canada, "Native American" means the equivalent to Native/First Nation people and sounds awkward.

Also, FYI your comment on the use of 'sauvage' now being racist is paralleled by the fate of its variant in the Chinook Jargon (siwash, sometimes sawash), which originally just meant "an Indian male", or "something Indian". Interestingly the etymology is something saved, or saveable, i.e. from sauver.

In some arch-political circles in Canada, "first nations person" is the gender-neutral politically-correct expression to replace "Indian". Awkward in conversation, yeah. Some native people, especially younger ones, increasingly prefer to refer to themselves by their specific nationality, i.e. Haida or Okanagan or Nlaka'pamux or Cree or Innu or whatever.

Metis also has two meanings. The older one refers to the original culture and heritage of the Riel-vintage Metis people. The newer one, and now the legal standard into which the Metis people have been absorbed or categorized, is another of mixed native blood (who can prove status descent). There was some resistance to the new meaning by the Metis people but it is now a generally accepted legalism. The unpleasant alternative was "halfbreed" (coll. "breed").

Re Mexico the term currently in colloquial use for the collective of aboriginal peopls in Mexico, whether Maya or Tarahumara or Zapotec or whatever, is indio (f. india).

Skookum1 08:36, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Demographics
I noticed you have added to the demographics section of the electoral districts project. Since Mindmatrix, SimonP, you, and myself seem to be the only ones interested in this section, I proposed to Mindmatrix, and now you, that we each try to design a prototype section. Links to StatsCan electoral district profiles are on the page. If you don't want to mess around with code, then just a sketch of how you see the data, tables and graphs (infobox?) being laid out will be fine. Since the articles will focus much more on election results, this demographic section is just really just a sidenote to help put the results in context but it has the possibility of consuming a lot of room. So at this point I'm interested in seeing how this section will be laid out. At the sametime we can see what data is realistic to include and what is just too burdensome. How does this sound? --maclean25 06:22, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Date Links
 Hello, thanks for your edits on the Drill bit page. However, you will note that I have unlinked many years, while linking the dates. The only reason for putting square brackets around dates is so that different people's date format preferences work. See: Manual of Style (dates and numbers) for instructions. Like you, when I first started editing, I was putting square brackets around all years thinking it was the right way to do things until I ran across the page on date formatting. Cheers & keep up the good work. Luigizanasi 05:51, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer, Luigizanasi. I thought linking the years, which I've seen on quite a few pages, was for categorization purposes. Now I'll have to go back to the dozens of pages I've edited to see if I did the same thing on them! --QuicksilverT @ 06:19, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia: Bias by inclusion
Well, it's happened. We ended up with the one absolutely unacceptable result: one of them got deleted (Blogging Tories) and the other one got kept (Progressive Bloggers). What would you propose that we do to resolve this? Bearcat 19:13, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Colour codewords for obsolete political parties?
Hi. I've been writing up defunct or important BC constituencies and came across some knots; not sure what to do for colour-abbreviations for older parties. Long, long ago there used to be things like the Soldier-Farmer party but I improvised and used colours from later parties (Natural Law in that case, I think). Most important to have a colour for is the Liberal-Conservative Coalition; I went ahead and used "Marijuana" as the colour key (!) and it worked. Figured out problems with WCC and Progressives and stuff; wondering about really obscure parties (there's a list of defunct BC parties on the Elections BC site. Can I just go and make templates, or is there someone responsible for that; I'd have to know the Wiki colourwords anyway, from what I can see of how a template is made.  Also possibly useful/needed are pre-political party "Government" and "Opposition" colours, although that's misleading because the same guy might be in one or the other from election to election; also the Provincial Party and a few others that had political profiles, if not actual members (the BC Constructive Party was an offshoot of the CCF and should have a colour, as it had members, if only by grandfathering them from the CCF caucus. Skookum1 01:55, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

List of obsolete BC political parties
list of political party names 1903-1986 from Elections BC

Electoral Districts
Please review Langley (electoral district). What do you think of this as a simple prototype for a current federal riding? The demographics are based on your list at WikiProject Electoral districts in Canada/Demographics. There are some blanks in there that I just could not find. I'm still fiddling with the election-results box but that is the gist of its size/shape/outline. --maclean25 05:45, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
 * In response to your points, I will say:
 * 1. The area really was intended for the individual district. You're right that it doesn't really mean anything on a Canada-wide basis.
 * 2. I really like pop change so I am ok with using whatever period is available, whether it is 1996-2001 or 1991-1996.
 * 3. You're the economist so I'll trust you on this one.
 * 4. Incidence of low income (and high income if that exists) is tops on my wish list. If it is not available it should be dropped. Average income can be its replacement. I do not believe it is useful but others seem to be distracted by it.
 * 5. I'm still opposed to language (outside Quebec), immigration, and especially ethnicity. I can bend for language being included in the Ontario/NB ridings. I can bend for immigration and Aboriginal population with enough support pressure. But I do not see how ethnicity factors into voting. It has been my experience that the only ethnic group that votes as a block is the Chinese and they are not loyal to a particular party. They vote as a block for the Liberal or Conservative candidates. I believe the other economic and demographic situation far outweighs the ethnicity factor for "visible minorities" in voting decisions. --maclean25 06:53, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Jerry Alfred
Thanks for the heads up, of coure I should know better, but I wasn't thinking. Smmurphy 05:26, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Electoral districts in Canada/Prototype
Thank you for participating in the WikiProject on Electoral districts in Canada. As you know there will be an election soon. So this may be the best time for the Canadian Wikipedia community to band together and write these articles on current federal electoral districts. Based on your comments, and the comments of others, I have put together a prototype layout at the above link. The prototype is not a final proposal. It is just a place to start from, where we can discuss and experiment. Please review it, comment but keep an open mind, and help form a concensus. --maclean25 01:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

HDI discussion concluded and next steps ... pitch in!
Hello again! I hope you're well. The discussion to determine the appearance of the HDI in the country/infobox template has been concluded, with an outline for moving forward. Please consider entering some metadata; we will more quickly realise the fruits of our labour if more users do so. In any event, thanks again for your participation! E Pluribus Anthony 06:42, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Italian-Canadian
I noticed the new Demographics section you added. I think one of the entries is wrong - did you mean Metro Toronto, or Greater Toronto Area. The former is the city itself, whereas the latter includes Durham, York and Peel Region. I suspect you intended the latter, but if not, then you need to include Woodbridge, Ontario in the list, since it's home to more Italians than all but the first four cities in the list. I'm not sure how you split the numbers, so I'll leave it to you to make the appropriate change. Mindmatrix 19:21, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
 * It appears the correct answer is: the Toronto CMA, so the best fit would be Greater Toronto Area. I'll update it myself. Mindmatrix 19:29, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I think there was a previous discussion about including statistical areas, but I don't remember the result (I vaguely recall that most people didn't want it). I haven't been able to find the discussion though... Let me think about it for a while. Mindmatrix 19:15, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Mindmatrix scam adminship
As fellow residents of this land, I feel it is my duty to employ my newly-granted priviliges to ensure that this politically unstable land may one day achieve a level of stability and functional governance that we all desire. To that end, please use the attached funds with the strictest confidence to accomplish this goal. (Yes, you're right, functional governance and Canadian politics is an oxymoron.) Thank you for your support. Mindmatrix 21:21, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Chetwynd, British Columbia
Could you please review and copyedit the article on Chetwynd? Your copyedit on Dawson Creek was very productive and made the article easier to read. Thank you in advance for any contributions you make. --maclean25 02:03, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Woodworking project
I ran across the woodworking project earlier today. Can I help? I used to build cabinets and furniture professionally for about 6 years and then turned that into a hobby when I got a real job. —  Kaiser B  23:11, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Rebate move request
Hi Luigi. Hope you had a nice Christmas. I just wanted to draw your attention to a move request I made at talk:Rebate. I moved Rebate to Rebate (marketing) awhile ago and made Rebate a disambiguation page but someone has since come along and reversed it all claiming that there is no other definition for rebate. Assuming that you agree, would you mind popping over and placing your vote? SilentC 00:22, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Deletion_review
Hi. You might be interested in a/m undeletion. -- User:Docu

 * The page was relisted on Articles for deletion/List of interesting or unusual place names (2nd nomination). -- User:Docu

Participant alert regarding Wikiproject on Advertising
The Wikiproject No Ads, created as a backlash against the Answers.com deal, has served an important function in providing a space for users to express their disagreement with the Foundation proposal. While the current controversies about userboxes raise questions about political and social advocacy on Wikipedia, there should be greater flexibility regarding advocacy about Wikipedia in the Wikipedia namespace. Reported and linked by Slashdot and other press sources as a unique and spontaneous occurence in Wikipedia history, it has apparently had some impact as, despite being scheduled to begin in January, not a peep has been heard about the trial and proposed sponsored link since the deal's controversial announcement months ago. Currently, however, there is an attempt to delete the project or move it off Wikipedia altogether. Since the Foundation has provided no additional information and has not attempted to answer the specific questions that participants in the project raised, it is unclear if the Answers.com deal has been abandoned or simply delayed. Until the situation becomes more clear, I believe the group should still have a place in the Wikipedia namespace. Sincerely, Tfine80 00:05, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Power Tool Spammer
Thanks for the assist from the day shift! I thought he'd slip back in as soon as I dashed off to work - I'm glad you spotted him. Kuru 23:47, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Dall Sheep
Article states they are located in Alaska and the Yukon do you not consider these areas part of the Arctic ?? Cordially SirIsaacBrock 17:45, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

 * It depends on what you consider the Arctic, could be Arctic circle, Isotherm or Treeline see map bottom line is I added the word subarctic to the article, now people will know, which part of the state/territory/province the article refers. Cordially SirIsaacBrock 01:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Help on Canada page
Hey Luigizanasi, I was wondering if you could help find references for the Canada page. There's a list of sections that needs references on the Talk:Canada page, and people are signing up to find references for each section. Thanks. -- Jeff3000 18:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

DoCB Initiative
What do you think will be happening with those pages under the copyright violation? will they reappear somewhere else in a new form. I have done a good number of articles in this area over the last while. Maybe one should "move on" if this is really a problem. A source of mine says that the pages violate nothing in Canadian law but, I guess, that is not the Big Picture. Any insights? Thanks! (Stormbay 19:28, 15 March 2006 (UTC))

Yukon
Hello, nice to talk to you again. Just wondering if you might be interested in an online political simulation of the Yukon? [s15.invisionfree.com/politics/index.php Yukon] MS123

Re:Prospectors
Hi,

Apologies for the very slow reply; I've been swamped by vandals and sockpuppets this week, and have only just got back to my "real job" of writing articles.

I wasn't aware of Category:Gold prospectors when I created Category:Prospectors. I have no objection to merging the two. If the final title ends up being "Gold prospectors", then we would have to remove Lang Hancock, who was an iron ore prospector. But that's no big deal.

Snottygobble 01:22, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Mergers...
Hey Luigizanasi, as relative newcomer to Wikipedia when do merger propositions. I'm referring to (as you probably know from your watchlist!) the Joe Juneau (prospector) merger...There's a clear consensus against it, can I go ahead and delete the merger template, should I wait longer, or am I simply not allowed to delete it (a task for an admin?). Sorry to bother, but I'd like to get rid of that darn header! Jarfingle 08:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Country subdivisions
...IMO splitting the cats into a group of "Administatrive divisions of some countries" and "Political divisions of some other countries" is not useful.

could you maybe change your vote on Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_April_4

and let's discuss this on the project page

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Subnational_entities/Naming

first? It is really is mass rename, since it not only involves the cats and subcates but also lots of articles. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 07:10, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Aboriginal or Native?
Do you know any Native peoples from Canada? If you do perhaps you also know that they generally prefer being called Native (which is impeccably acceptable, since that's exactly what they are in every sense) to the label 'Aboriginal' -- which non native people sometimes might use knowing full well that they don't like it, just to try to get their goat in a subtle way. ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 04:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Well maybe the tribes living in Yukon prefer it, but the Mi'kmaq tribe definitely prefers to be called NATIVE. Aboriginal is only used in bureaucratese, when absolutely necessary.  'Native' is much more strictly accurate anyway; the technical meaning of 'aboriginal' is to imply wrongly that they are in a natural state, with no developed culture or civilisation, ie, not all that different from the meaning of the word 'savage'... ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 06:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Any references I would have to Mi'kmaq Nation preferring to be called 'Native' over 'Aboriginal' are all verbal references and would not carry much weight with people who have to have everything in writing. To be sure, more literary references and when dealing with governments etc. the word 'Aboriginal' is used for convention sake.  Be careful if you plan to use the word in actual conversational setting.  ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 14:56, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Subdivision category debate
The original debate for renameing the country subdivision categories was closed and a new debate on the subject has now been listed. The results of the old debate are shown, but will not be counted when the current debate is closed. You are being notified because you were involved in the previous debate. If you still have an interest in the outcome, please come and participate in the new debate. - TexasAndroid 20:37, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

DoCB Initiative
Roland-Michel Barrin de La Galissonière; I can't find him in our DoCB lists...help! I know you are interested in this project and have done a lot of work on it. Could he have been missed? I tried a # of combos...no luck. Thanks...Stormbay 20:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I put it in the "B"s and verified it. Can we take the copy vio stickers off those pages when we are anyway in there? I have continued to use the pages simply because I like to deal with an article and move on without maintaining extra records. Thanks for your assistace. Stormbay 20:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Saw your Gold Rush edit
I think I wrote that sentence (it's all a wikiblur now) and partly used "at" because I didn't want to repeat "near". It didn't seem to scan that way or something; the same preposition twice in a row, I guess; just wondered if you'd noticed; I wrote it your way first, too, as the Klondike goldfields aren't themselves AT Dawson, but that's where the confluence of the rivers is (Dawson is on the right bank of the confluence) which in my read of the syntax went "thataway". Nothing important; just an aside.Skookum1 05:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Ethnic Stats
Thanks for your quick vote of support. It's always a a bit scary to go out and edit a bunch of articles in a similar fashion because you beleive it's best, without feedback. Thanks for helping me feel more comfortable!AshleyMorton 09:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

New Alaska Highway map
Just wanted to say thank you for taking the time and effort to make that! It was certainly needed—Alberta indeed. —Zero Gravitas 07:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Wood Preservation
Please review the changes that I have to the article Timber treatment. --Lumber Jack 17:40, 4. Jul 2006 (CEST)

Visible Minority Status
Right, sorry, I was confusing the article & the census data ... WilyD 00:32, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Keele Peak
I removed the tag from this article. I'm still sort of confused about how you didn't realize that it was a copyvio...did two people translate it identically? alpha Chimp laudare 06:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. Thanks for the explanation. I had to ask =D. alpha Chimp  laudare 06:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Tools
Thank you for your additions to the Category:Tools manufacturers. Checking the links to the "Tools" article was not very fruitful. There needs to be an article for Mac tools, as it is/has been a sponsor on quite a few racing teams. Kudos! --Royalbroil 20:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Newfoundland
Oops. I have checked the figures, and it appears he was right. I distinctly remembered figuring this information out. It appears the population figures on the Newfoundland and Labrador article are erroneous. -- Earl Andrew - talk 06:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Dene and NWT First Nations categories
Hi Luigizanasi, thanks for your comments. I removed the [First Nations in XXX] categories precisely because not all Dene (or its sub-nations) live in NWT. I added Category:First Nations in Alberta, Category:First Nations in Saskatchewan, and Category:First Nations in Manitoba to Category:Dene. So, for instance, Category:First Nations in Alberta will now have a [:Category:Dene]] subcategory, as will the other two provinces and the NWT.

That sounds more confusing than it is, but now, rather than having to include each of those provincial categories plus the dene category to every article, you can just add [:Category:Dene] and it will automatically be included in the provincial categories. Let me know if you still think it's a problem. -- TheMightyQuill 05:56, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Categories...
Yeah, I totally agree that applying modern provincial/state boundaries to indigenous groups is highly problematic, both because these nations cross those boundaries, and because it is NPOV in that it denies the claims of those nations claiming sovereignty from Canada/US. Geographic categories aren't perfect but they're better than anything else. I support taking it to the wikiproject.

On the other hand, I suppose someone wanting to know which nations have reserves within the current borders of their province/state should be able to find that out.

As for wikipedia rules Category, I don't think there's a problem with an article being in two sub-cats of a cat, only that it shouldn't usually be in both a category and its subcategory. That's not a problem in this case. -- TheMightyQuill 10:27, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Woodworking glossary
Hi Luigi. I already linked to the glossary from List of glossaries but I couldn't find anywhere to put it, so I created a new heading Industrial Arts under Arts and Culture. What do you reckon? SilentC 04:34, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Ahh, so it's a can of worms. I must admit when I first started looking for woodworking info here, I tried to navigate from the home page but found it impossible to find the topic. I stumbled upon it by searching for 'dovetail' of all things and the rest is history ;). It's one of those difficult to define subjects, because it is such a broad definition. On the one hand, you have carpenters building houses, then you have cabinet makers and furniture makers, and then you have woodturners and carvers. Right there you have gone from the ultra-practical, through form meets function, to pure art, so where does it fit? I notice they have no problem with architecture, normally categorised as an art, appearing prominently under technology as well. I think these people are elitist idiots who spend too much time in front of the computer and not enough time in the shed!! I have removed my Industrial Arts heading - it would probably have died a horrid death anyway - and I have left your link intact. Cheers!! SilentC 05:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Census divisions of Canada
Hi again Luigizanasi, Have finally taken a look at your corrections to the above in the wake my attempted revision – thanks for looking through it. Given your amendment to its opening, I'm wondering if it needs renaming as Census geographic units of Canada...? Regards, David Kernow (talk) 02:05, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

 * ''Yes I do think that the Census Divisions of Canada should be renamed to Census geographic units of Canada. The main Census division article should be a disambiguation page as the two terms are used quite differently in Canada and the US. I don't know what the generic term should be, but I suggest it shouldn't be "census division" as this will lead to confusion. I sort of like the US term, : "Census geographic entities".

 * Thanks for your message:
 * Census divisions of Canada (plus Census Agglomeration, Census agglomeration, Census Metropolitan Area and Census metropolitan area) now redirect to Census geographic units of Canada;
 * Census division: Yes, pending a little more research (re "census divisions" elsewhere in the world), it's my intention to convert this to a disambiguation page. At the same time, the article to which currently redirects, Census divisions of North America, will be deleted as obselete.
 * Generic term: I suspect "Census geographic entity/ies" might yet be parochial on the world stage; hopefully this will or won't be indicated by the research just mentioned. In order to align with other kinds of country subdivisions, it might need to be "census division"-with-note-re-Canada...
 * Best wishes, David (talk) 21:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * PS Also pending my own further research, I've left the section header "Dissemination areas" on Census geographic units of Canada as if these areas form the fourth level of units alone. My apologies if this is incorrect (e.g. if they are a form of or alternative to (say) census tracts).

images
Congratulations on your Alaska Highway map. It is a good one. Can you think of any reason why it shouldn't replace the map on the Haines Junction article?

I uploaded a dozen or so pictures from a US FAA site, of Yukon airports. Are you from the North? I got the impression you were. You ever fly out of one of these airports?

I've never been north of Calgary myself.

Cheers! -- Geo Swan 04:46, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Yukonian
Hey, interesting that you're from the Yukon. Given the size of the place and your hobbies there's a chance you know of my uncle: he owns Arctic Inland Resources up in Dawson (at least he did, I am not sure if he is still doing it). Erk|Talk -- I like traffic lights -- 03:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikibooks
Hi Luigizanasi,

I just imported Woodworking glossary to wikibooks, and noticed your defence of it on the talk page. I'm interested in learning about woodworking, so I'm sort of canvassing for knowledgeable contributors to a wikibooks on the subject.

I'm going to start converting the glossary to a linkable page on the wikibooks side... hopefully later today. If you'd be willing to help build a book of woodworking (probably several books, actually, for different techniques and project types), please get in touch with me on my wikibooks talk (click "books" in my signature), and I'll show you where the books are (they're stubs). I can also import any number of wikipedia articles to be used as chapters for the book, just post on b:WB:RFI if you'd like to have something brought over.

In case you're wondering, I don't have anything against glossaries on wikipedia :). -- SB_Johnny |talk|books 15:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

First Nations $5 billion
oops, my bad. I guess I should assume good faith, even from anonymous IPs. thanks for the correction. - TheMightyQuill 07:18, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

wikify notice on SCM Group
I saw you put a "wikify" notice on the SCM Group article I just created. However, I am at a loss as to what wikification the article needs. Relevant words are internally linked, there are categories, there is a proper heading for external links, the proper stubs are in place. What else????? Please enlighten me. Luigizanasi 08:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

 * It just looked like a starter page. Perhaps expand would be a better fit.  Switch if you feel that would work better.  Remember, before your page is generally accepted, you need more editors to get interested. Will (Talk - contribs) 08:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Yukon politicians
In Cable's case, Category:Yukon MLAs covers it. In Gingell's, I'm not entirely convinced that running as a political candidate automatically makes one inherently notable as a politician, so I'm not so sure about what to do in that case. Bearcat 21:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Yukon general election articles
If I read the history right, it was you who created Yukon general election, 1996 and added the bulk of the details. What was the source you used for this? I've been trying to track down a reference for the parties' vote share for List of Yukon general elections, in order to bring it up to Featured List standard. Tompw (talk) 14:38, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for that. I wasn't questioning the accuracy of the information - I just wanted to be able to have a proper reference. Tompw (talk) 15:50, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Photo request
Hello, I'm currently working on the Flag of Yukon article. I noticed you're from the Yukon, I visited Carcross about a year and a half ago, it was a neat experience. I was wondering if you could help me out by taking a picture of a real Yukon Flag on a flagpole outdoors in town or on a public building etc and uploading it on to Wikipedia. It would really enhance the article. Let me know if it's posssible, if it's not possible, no problem then. Thanks for your time. Sincerely, Bobo is soft 03:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Canadian dollar chart
I love your chart: ...which is featured in Canadian dollar, however it is horribly out-of-date. As you probably know, the loonie and American dollar are now at par, and it would be nice to have the graph reflect this. Would you be able to generate a more current graph, or direct me to where you got your data from so I can generate it myself? Thanks. Rawr 22:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Dominion on Canada page (again)
I'd like this settled one way or another. Click here to comment. Thanks. --Soulscanner 09:35, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Woodworking-Related Photos
Could you send me (or direct me to) a list of woodworking related articles/stubs needing photos. I'm in woodshop right now (I'm fairly certain my shop teacher wouldn't care if photos of his Allen Wrenches were released into the Public Domain, although I'd ask) and we literally have crates filled with tools (planers, chisels, router bits, etc.) that could be handy for obtaining photos.LeeRamsey (talk) 02:49, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Alsek River
I noticed that you contributed most of the existing information to the Alsek River page. I was just curious where you got your information from. I'm very interested in the history of the area, so anywhere you could point me would be great. Thanks. Penguinece (talk) 06:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Sal
Hi, Luigi. I saw that you made a few edits to Sal, so I thought you could be interested in this proposal. Cheers, Waldir talk 10:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Board foot
Hello Luigi, The term board foot (pied planche) is, so far as I have been able to find out, completely missing from al major English-French and French-English dictionaries. A campaign to get this term include, even only for historical reasons, might be in order. Peter Horn 01:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello again Luigi,
 * Egad, it has been nearly a year. Any luck in getting the term board foot featured or included in the major English-French dictionaries, if only in the section that lists all those arcane Anglo-American measurements??? Peter Horn User talk 20:20, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Capital-R "Indian Reserve" and Indian/Metis Villages/Settlements
Yo....not sure if you've been around the original discussions on Talk:List of Indian Reserves in Canada but, if you've got the stomach for a lot of reading and convluted/protracted argument/details. I know you're in Whitehorse and would appreciate input on the nature of Indian governance and land-designations in Yukon re the discussion, which is ultimately about "Indian Reserve 'vs. "Indian reserve" but other issues have come up as well.Skookum1 (talk) 12:38, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Steven Horn
In case you have not already heard, this is to let you know that my brother Steven apparently had a number of strokes and will be taken by air ambulance to Vancouver this coming Monday or Tuesday. It's a pity because he just retired at the end of May and Meg had great plans for them to spend the winter in Mexico. My brother Michiel will probably join him there. I believe I had your E-mail address, but if I did have it, I misplaced it. My address is phorn12000@yahoo.ca. Peter Horn User talk 20:11, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, would you be so kind as to give us support!
Hello, I hope you're doing fine and I sincerely apologize for this intrusion (I hope you won't consider this to be an ad). By the way Marylin's jewellery box is really nice, much better than what my wife has! I've just read your profile and saw that you've worked on articles about Canadian Native unhabitants and you seem to be a learned person interested in many things and among them minorities and maybe being Canadian helps you understand what are an endangered language and culture and maybe I am not bothering you and you will help us... I'm a member of a Catalan association "Amical de la Viquipèdia" which is trying to get some recognition as a Catalan Chapter but this hasn't been approved up to that moment. We would appreciate your support, visible if you stick this on your first page: Wikimedia CAT. You can have more information at[], unfortunately this link is only in Catalan but there are pages in English somewhere. Supporting us will be like giving equal opportunity to minorized languages and cultures in the future! Thanks again, wishing you a great summer, take care! Keep on preserving the rich diversity of your country and I wish you can keep on doing such good woodwork forever! Capsot (talk) 07:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

AfD
Please see: Articles for deletion/List of English words of Italian origin. Thanks. Borock (talk) 19:20, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

April - National Contribution Month
Good day Luigizanasi,

During the month of April, Wikimedia Canada is preparing the National Contribution Month, and we are looking for experienced contributors to organize a contribution day (or half-day) in their region.

Contribution days are activities where Wikipedia's contributors, students, or anybody interested in contributing to Wikipedia meets together to collectively improve a predetermined theme. This meetings generally take place in library where references are easy of access, but can be organized in any communal room. Beside improving articles, a goal of this participatory workshops is to initiate neophyte in the cooperative contribution of Wikipedia.

If you are interested in organizing or participating in a contribution day in your region, communicate witht he national team on the project's talk page. The exact agenda of each local event is left to the discretion of the organizer. Help is available for the organization from contributors who already organized these type of days, so don't be worried. If you have any questions or want more information, don't hesitate to contact us.

Benoit Rochon (talk) 01:06, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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New mailing list for Wikimedia Canada
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August Schrader

August Schrader (1807–1894) was a German-American inventor and mechanic. He is known for inventing the Schrader valve.

Life
Schrader immigrated from Germany to the United States and opened a shop dealing in rubber products in Manhattan, New York City. His original shop was located at 115 John Street.

In 1845, he began supplying fittings and valves for rubber products made by the Goodyear Brothers, including air pillows and life preservers. He also made daguerreotype apparatus. Then he went into partnership with Christian Baecher, a brass turner and finisher.

After watching divers at work, Schrader sought to improve diving helmets. In 1849, he created a new copper helmet. Later, his interest in diving led to him to design an air pump.

Around 1890, after reports of English cyclists' success using pneumatic tires, August Schrader saw the need for a bicycle tire valve. By 1891 he had produced the Schrader valve, which was his most popular invention and is used today. August's son, George, is generally credited with the experimental work that resulted in the valve's creation.

In 1893, Schrader patented the tire valve cap.

As with the introduction of the bicycle, early automobiles had solid wheels similar to those on carriages, followed by solid hard rubber. In time, tubed pneumatic tires and Schrader valves were introduced to cars, trucks, and motorcycles. Most of these ultimately went tubeless, but retained Schrader valves. For comparison, it should be compared with the Presta valve.

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User talk:Barbirossa

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Unreferenced BLPs
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Speedy deletion nomination of Donald Heathfield

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Talk:Electronic assessment

Merging with Computer-Based Assessment
The two articles are completely redundant, probably started by different researchers with the term they prefer. I propose taking text from the CBA article and merging it here, then replacing the old one with a redirect. Iulus Ascanius (talk) 20:19, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sda030 (talk) 15:46, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

e-Assessment, Online Assessment, and Computer-Based Assessment
All are synonym to a wide extent. Thus all should be merged and the synonms should be forwarded. I agree with the above suggestion and like to add "Online Assessment" (also used in ther German Wikipedia) to the redirects. Warbe (talk) 18:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree to both suggestions. A multitude of articles on the same issue is just confusing and redundant. --Diggindeeper (talk) 12:40, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

E-Assessment (Online Assessment) E-Assessment relates to assessment via Computer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.177.182.121 (talk) 08:18, 29 February 2016 (UTC) e-assessment — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.177.182.121 (talk) 08:19, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Sda030 (talk) 15:45, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Issues with edit
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Renewed merger proposals
Online assessment and Electronic marking both sit in the same concept space as this article. There have been intermittent postings in favor of merging online assessment and e-assessment since 2010 (see above). I am in favor of bringing all three of these these articles together in one place. None of them are individually satisfactory but as a merged article there will be an adequate amount of referencing and content. I favor consolidating to this article, and renaming this article as Electronic assessment. I have renamed this article, and on the basis on the above comments will proceed with the merger unless there is dissenting policy-based input. FeatherPluma (talk) 05:37, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I say go for it. Jytdog (talk) 05:52, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Sda030 (talk) 15:45, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Martin Buber

Improvements to be made
As a suggestion for this article I would use and cite quotations from Buber's work more often. To better understand his philosophy on the concepts of I-Thou and I-It relationships it is important to read his own words. Sandbergj19 (talk) 18:48, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I respectfully suggest sofixit. But don't go too heavy on the quotes. It's frowned on, as you run into danger of making the article look cluttered... quotes should be used sparingly and spaced throughout the article. For major points, find a really telling quote. If the quote is pretty much a just restatement of the article's text, for example, then that quote will almost certainly be considered clutter... And don't use those accursed cartoon quote templates – just a simple, plain quotation marks for short ones and straightforward block quote for longer ones...tks & kutgw. ♦ Lingzhi.Random (talk) 20:12, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Published works
I am just wondering how meaningful it is to list all Buber's publications in German on this page again, instead of providing a link to the German page where these works (and more) are already listed. I came here looking for English translations of Bubers beyond the two versions of "I and Thou" translated by Ronald Gregor Smith, published by Charles Scribner & sons, 1958; and by Walter Kaufmann, published by Simon Schuster as a Touchstone edition, 1996.

Hskoppek (talk) 18:59, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Ecology
Why is one of the links the "The Martin Buber Institute for Dialogical Ecology," yet the term "ecology" is mentioned nowhere in the current version of this article? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 03:22, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

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Orvar Säfström

Orvar Säfström (born 18 February 1974) is a Swedish musician and writer, and former film reviewer and video game journalist. He hosted Filmkrönikan on the Swedish television network SVT from 2003 to 2006. Before that, Säfström was employed at ZTV, where he hosted two other film review shows called Bio and Recensenten.

Starting in 2006, Säfström shifted his focus more towards video games, writing and lecturing on games. Among other things he talked in the Riksdag at a seminar on gaming and received the SVEROK "Gamer of the year" award for outstanding work in promoting game culture.

In 2006, he also formed Underscore Productions to create symphonic concerts with game music and film music. Underscore works with major orchestras in Scandinavia such as the Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra and the Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra, and have produced concert series like SCORE (game music), WE COME IN PEACE (science fiction music) SAGAS (fantasy music) and THE HORROR (horror music).

Säfström is a published writer, having written several books on the 1980s roleplaying game wave in Sweden and other related topics. In 2017, he formed the publishing house Fandrake with fellow writer Jimmy Wilhelmsson and publishes coffee table books dealing with fandom subjects, board games and retro/game related merchandise.

Säfström was part of the first wave of Swedish death metal in the late 1980's and early 1990's. He was the guitarist and vocalist of Nirvana 2002 and a session vocalist on Entombed's 1991 EP Crawl. He has also performed live with the symphony orchestra live versions of the Entombed album Clandestine.

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Talk:M. F. Husain

Qatari, not Indian
Husain voluntarily accepted Qatari citizenship when it was offered, and surrendered his Indian passport. He also never even applied for Overseas Citizenship of India. Article and short description needs to be updated accordingly.

Image
Something really needs to be done about Mr Husain's profile picture, File:MFHussain.jpg. His face is so bright that, when the image is small, as it currently is on the Main Page, it looks like his head is wrapped in bandages. LordVetinari (talk) 02:06, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

 * Agreed. Someone needs to edit this photo and reupload it. It looks so bad on Wiki's front page. 71.33.194.92 (talk) 07:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

 * I never heard of this gentleman before, but saw the image and assumed he must be albino. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.88.228.158 (talk) 05:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

 * I edited the image and fixed the problem, I guess. ۞   Tb hotch ™ &  (ↄ),  Problems with my English?  08:24, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

 * Thank you, Tbhotch. He looks more impressive without the bandages. LordVetinari (talk) 10:17, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

 * In fact this is a cropped version of what was a much larger image. The thing round his neck is a sling. Paul B (talk) 10:32, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

nationality
I have changed the nationality to Qatari because Hussain Sahab gave up Indian citizenship and returned the passport. The Indian Govt accepted his ceasing of being an Indian legally by accepting the passport.Qatar offered and he accepted the citizenship. Hence it is most apt to write him " a Qatari citizen of Indian origin" isarnabi 10:34, Jun 10, 2004 (IST) —Preceding undated comment added 17:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC).

 * I have moved this comment to the bottom. Note that the 2004 date seems to have been cut and pasted from another talk page comment. The Sinebot date is correct. The infobox should give both nationalities, since he was an Indian national for most of his life, and only Quatari for one year. Paul B (talk) 18:07, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

 * I understand what you are saying, but now it "Indian/Qatari" seems to be at the top again, and one has to read the entire article page to find out he moved to Qatar in 2010 (gave up citizenship, etc from India) then died in 2011. No offense to anybody, but does one year plus living in another country make an almost century old Indian person Indian/Qatari? I think at the least this should be not in the intro--perhaps in his bio along with a brief explanatory note.Raisinpie (talk) 05:11, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

 * Indian-Qatari is just silly. All the obits describe him as Indian. Paul B (talk) 20:16, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Name in Marathi has different spelling
I wonder, why my edits spelling his name in native language Marathi (मकबूल फिदा हुसेन) were overwritten with Hindi spelling "मक़बूल फ़िदा हुसैन" ?!! Spellings in Marathi and Hindi differ for many names and words, even though they share the same Devanagari script.

Anyways, I am reinstating the correct Marathi spelling in the article.

--Sankalpdravid (talk) 08:13, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Suggestions for improvement
For some reason there is no discussion in this entry of Husain's depiction of Indira Gandhi as a vanquishing Durga. At the very least this would seem to merit some mention, if not a full examination, as it surely provides a fuller understanding of Husain's relationship to other prominent contemporaries.

Also, portions of the syntax in this article are problematic, as are some idioms. One example from memory is the phrase "in his initial days..." While this is not grammatically incorrect, it is not in common usage either and sounds somewhat awkward. I would recommend that someone undertake to make some improvements to the overall language of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.105.46.83 (talk) 13:28, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

There is no mention of the "Partition" in this article and how it inspired and influenced the creation of the Progressive Artists Movement to be different than other past groups. Also, Husain of often spelled Hussain by writers and the artist himself. The article spends way too much time going on about the controversial aspects of this artists works, and never, for instance, mentions he liked to draw and paint horses.Raisinpie (talk) 05:19, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

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The spelling of the eminent painter universally used in MF Husain and not MF Hussain. There is only one letter 's' in his name. This article carries various and erroneous spelling of the painter. Even though it is a minor matter, finalising on one spelling is needed. (59.92.119.166 (talk) 20:09, 12 August 2023 (UTC))

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User talk:PeR

PeR, I just want to thank you for your intervention. I'm especially grateful since you and I got off to a particularly bad start. You put my case very well, and I'm also grateful to Ned Scott for putting in another appeal on my behalf which has since been rejected. I don't intend to appeal again. But I'll take this as an opportunity to explain to you what my plan was, because I genuinely would like to see this centrifugal force issue resolved.

Fugal, at the moment, would appear to be in agreement with me, but that may not always be so. However, having said that, I have no intention in engaging in any further edit wars. I genuinely believed that I could work with Fugal to get the matter sorted out.

Fugal appears to be agreeing with me that centrifugal force is not something which is confined to the topic of rotating frames. I was going to point out to him however that his opponents may put it to him that a stationary object experiences centrifugal force as observed from a rotating frame of reference, and that in polar coordinates there would be no such centrifugal force acting. I wanted to see what his response would be. At any rate, I was going to state that I had a view on the matter and that there is literature on the matter supporting both my point of view and the point of view of my opponents, and that as such, a section on 'rotating frames' should avoid this controversy altogether.

I wasn't going to go back on the main page myself. I was merely going to suggest that 'rotating frames' and 'reactive centrifugal force' should form special sections in a single unified centrifugal force article. David Tombe 81.156.1.34 (talk) 14:17, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Before this whole discussion started 'rotating frames' and 'reactive centrifugal force' were, in fact, sections in a single unified centrifugal force article. Now the article has spun off in a strange direction, but I have faith in the way that Wikipedia works, and I'm sure that it will end up good. Many good editors have expressed the opinion of reuniting the article. They are just not editing it frequently enough to make a difference right now.
 * On an unrelated note: When someone leaves you a message on your talk page, it is best to respond right below it, on your own talk page. They will have put the page on their watch list, and come back to read your response. That way it is easier to follow the conversation. This is especially important now that you're blocked, and only allowed to edit your own talk page. Admins will hold it against you if you edit other pages while blocked. --PeR (talk) 06:34, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

PeR, the problem is that I've now even been blocked from editing my own talk page. I genuinely believed that Antandrus and the Anome were bringing me back in again, but when the system allows other editors that have no knowledge of the history of the problem to make the decisions, then it becomes very difficult to take it all too seriously. I did take it seriously originally because I wanted to tidy up the centrifugal force article, having done alot of reserach into the topic. I was going to have one last attempt at highlighting the areas of disagreement in a clear and rational fashion without actually going on the main article, but Sandstein and Jayron32, who know nothing about the history of the original dispute, have been allowed to decide otherwise. David Tombe 81.156.4.167 (talk) 10:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Are you sure you can't edit User_talk:David_Tombe? It looks to me like it's not protected anymore. Don't underestimate the amount of research admins do before deciding on an unblock request. You can also assume that a lot of them also read the AN/I discussions concerning you when they took place, even if they did not participate. I think your best strategy will be to lay low for a while, then make another unblock request, pledging to follow all Wikipedia policies, including those concerning block evasion and sock-puppets, and to assume good faith concerning your fellow Wikipedians from now on. --PeR (talk) 08:56, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

PeR, I've just checked again. Although the page is unprotected, I can't edit on it. The block notice comes up. Blocked indefinitely by Mr. Z-Man. Ironically, I can still edit it if I don't log in, but I don't intend to do that. And yes, I had intended to lie low as I had more or less finished making my point, but then I wanted back into the discussion again while Fugal was still active. He might have disappeared when the block would have expired at the end of October. There's a crucial point which I want to discuss with him. It concerns matching the terms in polar coordinates with the terms in the rotating frame transformation equations. I wanted to point out to him, that although I support his position on that matter, that it is not all cut and dried because the Coriolis force is strictly tangential in polar coordinates, whereas his opponents believe that it can be in any direction in the rotating frame transformation equations. That matter is the key to the entire edit conflict and it will have to be addressed in a rational manner. Previously it was addressed in a state of conflict and everybody dug in. I was outnumbered, and I believe that I was unfairly prejudiced in that respect. I think we're past that stage now. The facts need to be put into the open and I've already made it clear to the administrators that I don't intend to edit the main article anymore. With Fugal now active, there was a hope that it could all have been resolved peacefully within a few weeks. But unfortunately Fugal is now left battling alone and banging his head against the wall in vain. He's just repeating the same arguments over and over again, like I was previously. Finally, I can't understand Antandrus. He seemed like a very reasonable administrator. When Wolfkeeper complained that I had been on the discussion page (in order to answer Brews's inuendo that Fugal was alone), Antandrus sent me a message which indicated that he believed that I was genuine and that terms of re-entry could be negotiated. He paved the way for a re-entry but when it was sabotaged by Sandstein and Jayron32, he disappeared. Since I am not under a community ban, and since I have not been subject to any decision by the arbitration committee, there is no reason why Antandrus himself simply couldn't have done the unblock. What would have been the problem? If I had let him down and instantly gone unto the main article, the inevitable consequence would have been a re-block with me knowing that I had lost all hope forever of being re-admitted. So I doubt if he would have been taking much of a risk. Unfortunately, it does rather seem that alot of these admins such as Sandstein and Jayron32, and the others that declined the unblock request before, simply enjoy the power of blocking people, and have themselves totally defied the rules in the respect that blocks are not designed to punish but rather to prevent damage. David Tombe 86.150.86.124 (talk) 10:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

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