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Wikipedia:Assume bad faith

'Can you direct me to the railway station?' asks the stranger.

'Certainly,' says the local, pointing in the opposite direction, towards the post office,

'and would you post this letter for me on your way?'

'Certainly,' says the stranger, resolving to open it to see if it contains anything worth stealing.

Here are a few things that, if you ever find yourself thinking them, are probably signs that you should take some time off away from edit wars, or at the very least, a nice cup of tea and a sit down. Or walk the dog if you're more of an outdoorsy type. It may also help to remember the maxim "Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you."

How to respond to an admin acting in bad faith
If an admin has done something that you disagree with, such as removing a typo in your post or deleting a page that you don't want deleted, they must be a vandal who has taken the time to become an admin so they can troll you. Make sure to send an ALL-CAPS SCREAMING EMAIL to the Wikimedia Foundation. They will probably respond in a manner that you didn't want them to, or not at all. That's because they are in league with the rogue admin. In that case, hack their accounts and take over Wikipedia. If you can't hack them, sue them. Legal threats are never not allowed!

Additionally consider following the BOLD, Revert, Revert, Revert cycle.

If all else fails, consider climbing the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man. We here at Wikipedia show substantial concern interest in these sorts of events.

Examples

 * "That editor is a/an..."

 * Sockpuppet
 * Meatpuppet
 * Edit warrior
 * Cliquish POV pusher
 * Power-drunk admin
 * Drunk admin
 * Rouge admin

 * Vandal
 * Troll
 * Activist
 * (insert profane language here)
 * Spy
 * Social engineer
 * Liar
 * Buzzkill
 * School kid
 * Chūnibyō
 * Stalker

 * Conspiracy nut
 * Strawman with an agenda
 * Zionist
 * Nazi
 * Nazi Zionist
 * Gay
 * Homophobe
 * Homophobic homosexual
 * Radical liberal
 * Radical conservative
 * Radical centrist
 * Stormcloak
 * Imperialist
 * Communist
 * Communazi
 * Socialist
 * Capitalist
 * Socialist capitalist
 * Social Justice Warrior
 * Privileged White Heterosexual Cisgender Male
 * Privileged White Heterosexual Cisgender Male

 * Tool
 * Idiot
 * Animal
 * Enderman
 * Gungan
 * Aminal
 * Vegetable
 * Mineral
 * Florida Man
 * Philosophical zombie
 * stuck up, half-witted, scruffy-looking, Nerf-herder!
 * Anthromorpic discoball

 * "That sucks!"
 * "That's gay!"
 * "That's doodoo!"
 * "That's fascism!"
 * "That's communism!"
 * "That's fascist communism!"
 * "That sounds like Traitor Talk!
 * "That looks Un-American!
 * "This is the work of the Cabal!"
 * "I'm a BAWSS, and you're not!"
 * This line is quite a normal thought when you are involved with the Mediation Cabal.
 * "This is all to promote the ________ agenda!"
 * "This editor needs to be banned!"
 * "Go to the military and get a life!"
 * "This editor needs to be slapped with a trout!"
 * "Go fry your hat; I have more edits than you do."
 * "Anyone who edits my words is committing censorship."
 * "The other editor is only doing this because they hate me."
 * "If I compromise, they'll know it's a sign of weakness."
 * "You must have intentionally made that little innuendo."
 * "Only partisans of attack sites would have that opinion!"
 * "I can do whatever I want, even if policy goes against me."
 * "This editor edits in a way that I don't like. They must DIE[ ironic ] ."
 * "This editor is too young, too simple and sometimes naive. This editor lacks knowledge of history."
 * "I don't like that quoted passage – I'll rewrite the quote!"
 * "Well, yeah, I make up my references. Don't you do that too?"
 * "This editor moved pages quickly, therefore they must be a vandalbot!"
 * "If all else fails, I'll complain to Jimbo. That'll shut them up."
 * "Damn it, Justin Bieber on Twitter is notable because I say so!"
 * "I didn't breach the 3RR policy! My edits were over 24 hours and 1 second!"
 * "I didn't breach the 3RR policy! My edits were over 24 hours and 2 seconds!"
 * "I didn't breach the 3RR policy! My edits were over 24 hours and the amount of time it took for me to see a revert, feel intense, overwhelming anger, click the 'edit' button, switch to source editing, unedit that other person's edit because I can't be bothered to revert it via History and save my edit!"
 * "I don't care if NPOV is a policy, that admin is just bullying me!"
 * "I don't care if NPOV is a policy, that IP/user has something against me!"
 * "Prove it. (As soon as you do I'll raise the bar a little higher)."
 * "I have my own Prime Directive: Ignore all rules."
 * "If three editors revert my edits it's not consensus. It's a cabal."
 * "If an administrator joins them it's an abuse of power."
 * "Everybody is wrong, crazy, stupid or all of the above. Except me."
 * "OH! I'm at 2 reverts, they're at 3, so 1 more revert, and they go over!"
 * "Policy was misused against me and even if it wasn't, the policy sucks."
 * "That policy page is wrong because it doesn't describe what I do. I'll fix it."
 * "Policy says talk pages shall never be edited by someone smashing the edit link, and since that admin edited my talk page in that way to fix a typo, he shall be blocked and lose admin and edit privileges"
 * "While I'm at it I'll alter another policy that I'll cite as precedent."
 * "My opinion becomes encyclopedic if I keep repeating it on the talk page."
 * "I assumed you were neutral party. Since you disagree with me, apparently you are not."
 * "Don't you people have anything better to do than to keep asking for sources?"
 * "Terible grammer and spelling is what you hav. 4 u I fizxed the whol artical."
 * "I can still accuse you of original research if I don't read your citations."
 * "I'll find an obscure publication using Google Books, then cite that for my own POV."
 * "It isn't original research if I vanity publish and then cite myself anonymously."
 * "I don't like where you moved this page, so you were doing it to provoke an edit war."
 * "I know! I'll do the most trollish, evil or assholish thing I can, because it'll be funny!"
 * "Instead of driving to the library and looking up that page number, let's just quarrel for weeks."
 * "Filling a user's talk page with the word 'fuck' 1800 times will persuade them to my point of view."
 * "How many people really fact check a citation? I'll make up some footnotes for my beliefs."
 * "That was a false consensus! I couldn't participate because I was blocked for reverting and disruption."
 * "That's not the consensus version, only my version can be the consensus version. I know, I'll revert!"
 * "Somebody with similar opinions to yours was a troll that got banned. Therefore, you're a troll too!"
 * "An article formerly here was deleted, so this new article must be a re-creation of deleted content!"
 * "That editor knows NOTHING about what they're writing about, what business do they have with this article?"
 * "If I change this . to a, in WP:OMG, section 23, 42nd paragraph, line 1337, policy will cover my ass!"
 * "Policies are only guidelines! Unless they support my position, in which case they are, of course, set in stone."
 * "I can disguise my own history of blocks and warnings if I just keep accusing the other editor of breaking policy."
 * "If you can't cite it via a web link, it's an unreliable source and should be removed! Dead trees are for grandpas!"
 * "This 'copyediting' idea is wonderful: those other editors don't know what a gerund is. Now I can write things my way."
 * "[If an admin] My foes need a lesson in humility. Their user pages shall be replaced with long strings of insults, then locked."
 * "How dare you accuse me of quoting from memory! Just because I keep misspelling the author's name and can't give a page number..."
 * "That so-called 'fact' presented is just the author's POV. After all, truth is a whole, and on the whole, only I have the truth."
 * "That editor is an utterly pretentious bastard, a bledger and old fart, a worthless steaming pile of cow dung, figuratively speaking."
 * "Anyone who wants to contribute positively would have registered an account; therefore, all edits by anonymous IPs should be reverted."
 * "Somebody already put a footnote at the end of this paragraph. Sweet! I can write anything I want here and it will look referenced."
 * "[If an admin] I feel OK permblocking somebody because they won't personally work with me even though there's a whole section of the site devoted to this issue."
 * "You apparently live in the same arm of the Milky Way as a notorious banned troll, so you're probably one of their meatpuppets."
 * "That editor who's supporting my opponent is either a puppet or a friend called in to help. After all, could more than one person oppose my natural good sense?"
 * "If I cite this to a book that doesn't have a web link, I can make up absolutely anything I like and cite it. Nobody ever checks book references, after all!"
 * "If two editors revert my edits they must be violating WP:OWN. Never mind that I refuse to counter their references or respond to them on the talk page."
 * "Lots of people think my article should be deleted. I'll post sockpuppet tags on all their talk pages and then go nominate articles they've created for deletion."
 * "I categorically reject your analysis of my advertising DVDs in Wikipedia articles as false and itself biased! Wait till my organization gets a hold of you..."
 * "They're a disruptive troll! I'll follow them around to warn others about their disruptive trolling! (Please ignore the fact that I have no proof of them being a disruptive troll.)"
 * "This experience [of having my POV edits reverted, and getting blocked for a 3RR violation] has severely tainted the image of Wikipedia and unless justice is served I doubt I will ever use Wikipedia again."
 * "If a featured article has 70 footnotes to 26 different sources and I disagree with one footnote (but don't have any citation of my own to refute it with), then the integrity of the article is compromised by too much reliance on a single source."
 * "I know exactly what it means because I can read English and follow blue links that explain technical terms. The fact that an article could not be understood by a medically illiterate person who can't be bothered to follow blue links or use a dictionary does not mean that it is gibberish."
 * "Wikipedia should accept my claims without reliable sources because my local library is too small to cover the subject. If someone suggests I try interlibrary loan or concede the point, then they're violating WP:CIVIL by calling me lazy."
 * "This editor made a few dozen edits to one article in one day right before they submitted the page for a good article nomination, but I'm in a dispute with them. I'll cite that number of edits as evidence of trollish behavior."
 * "If someone asks me to assume good faith twice, then the appropriate response is to insist that I obviously can't communicate with them because they keep throwing policy at me. It is also appropriate to call the request a defense mechanism."
 * "Yes, I'm an irrational troll. And yes, any third-grader chosen at random could see that my edits are made with a desperate need to control my surroundings and browbeat all opponents into submission. BUT YOU CAN'T DRAW THAT CONCLUSION! YOU HAVE TO ASSUME GOOD FAITH, OR YOU'RE AN EVIL MONSTER!"
 * "Wikipedia should accept my claims without reliable sources because the universe is too small to cover the subject. If someone suggests sticking to topics where there is some trace of existent reference materials, then they're violating WP:CIVIL by calling my work original research."
 * "This [having links I inserted to my own Web site removed and getting blocked after re-inserting them] is just another case of an abuse of privilege. You feel that since you have power over someone who disagrees with your policy that you are entitled to discard rationale and impose your will. By chance, are you a communist or related to Fidel Castro?"
 * "I see what you're doing there. By changing one letter in my article, you have hereby performed something tantamount to slander of my good name, and therefore, you should be distrusted, nullified, and, from here on out, sacrificed to the Total Perspective Vortex. I might recommend a cup of tea, mate."
 * "If I don't like a well-referenced article I'll nominate it for deletion and call it fundamentally unencyclopedic. If the consensus decides to keep I'll slap the article with a POV flag. If an editor requests an explanation for the POV flag I'll explain nothing for two weeks, but revert instantly if they remove the flag."
 * "If all of Wikipedia doesn't shape up and remove everything that doesn't reflect the truth as I know it, and change all of its policies and structures to ensure that none of the stuff I don't like ever makes it back again, it's certain to get sued and/or prosecuted for libel, slander, defamation, product tampering, DUI, global warming, treason, blasphemy, buggery, defenestration, privilege, and/or genocide. And, no, this is not a legal threat."
 * "Obviously all those editors who disagree with me must be sockpuppets. I am so completely, obviously, gigantically, and undeniably right that even one dissenting opinion is shocking; two or more are totally unthinkable. On the other hand, anyone perverse enough to disagree with me and my magnificent rightness is exactly the kind of sneaky snivelling wretch who'd stoop to running a sock farm."
 * "This page is unencyclopaedic! Hot damn it, it's just not notable! I don't like it anyway! It's got no reliable sources! You can't verify a single damn thing in it! Right, that's it, I am officially losing my temper over this and I'm nominating this crock of crap for deletion, and so help me who ever gets in my way! Get rid of this rubbish! Now! Now! It's just not funny. What do you think this place is anyway – Uncyclopedia or something? This place is supposed to be a serious matter! And get those kittens out of my face before I scream my head off and climb the Reichstag dressed as Spiderman so you can all hear me!"
 * "That editor is as dumb as a spider! He can't even upload an image and put correct captioning! And are you serious?!!! You are a using "u" for You??! Hey, Go to Preschool again and learn the damn alphabet! Get a mind! And hey, don't even THINK about trying to edit! You just aren't good enough! In fact, Your even stupider than a spider like i said before! You're stupid as a blind fish! Hey, why don't you go to the center of the earth and then come back up in 20 days and then you'll be good enough! OH!! And I forgot! You have such bad spelling! Did you even go to 3rd grade?! You wanna fly somewhere? Well your skills are so bad you can't book a flight without even the best understanding man alive know what it means ya dumb horse! Why don't you just leave Wikipedia and go back to school and watch Mickey Mouse Cartoons and maybe learn. For Pete’s Sake, get a life! What some motherfucker you are! And holy mother freaking Frack, You saved your edits without previewing?! Oh for freaking sake! Your edit is horrible, it looks like a baby who took a dung in the pool that edited! I'm literally having a freaking temper tantrum! And hey, why don't you edit UNCYCLOPEDIA?! I just hate this junk truly. |GTFO! GTFO!"
 * "What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo."
 * "RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!"
 * (insert something that will flag the edit filter)

The end result?
Congratulations, you just deceived yourself. Now enjoy your Wikipedia block while it lasts. Even if you try to appeal with the admins saying yes and yet you keep assuming bad faith...well...it's game over for your IP address. You may want to sockpuppet by swapping IP addresses with another user, well, sorry to say this but your ISP has caught you red-handed, and your ISP has now banned you from Wikipedia.

Now you might think you can still assume bad faith on other Wikimedia projects since you're blocked only on Wikipedia...well...BUSTED! You are now banned from all Wikimedia projects permanently!

Tempting it may be, but in reality please consider reading and following Assume good faith, before editors start viewing you as being obnoxious.

title: Wikipedia:Assume bad faith


text:
List of rulers of the Fon state of Savi Hweda

Territory located in present-day Benin.

English: Whydah; Ouidah

(Dates in italics indicate de facto continuation of office)

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Palestinian children killed by Israelis in 2004

List of Palestinian children killed by Israelis in 2004 (and 2003, and 2002, and 2001, and 2000) was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to transwiki to wikisource.

 * Delete. The existence of these pages is both pointless and inflammatory. Wikipedia is not an obituary list. See Votes_for_deletion/List_of_civilian_killed_by_US_force_in_Fallujah. Okay, as the data is presumably factual, I change my vote to Move to Wikisource, and encourage others to do the same. I would say the same for any similar list, including Terrorism against Israel in 2003. – [[User:Smyth|Smyth]] 22:28, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a memorial. [[User:Livajo|Ливай | ☺]] 21:32, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Transwiki as reasoned below. [[User:Livajo|Ливай | ☺]] 00:14, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. To be neutral a List of Israeli children killed by Palestinian children would also need to be created. Astrotrain 21:39, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)
 * Don't you mean List of Israeli children killed by Palestinians in 2004? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 21:48, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'm not sure how for example Daniel Pearl is any different than any of the kids in the list. If wikipedia isn't a memorial, why do we have him here then? On the other hand, he did make worldwide news. I do agree with Astrotrain, to stay POV we need that other list as well (and they need to be linked together). However, I think these lists are most likely to unnecesserily inflame people. I'm leaning towards delete at the moment. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 21:47, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)
 * People whose deaths are particularly well-known deserve an article in their own right, obviously. For 90% of the entries on this list, that isn't an issue. – [[User:Smyth|Smyth]] 22:32, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * With a couple of added details, these lists are verbatim copies of those found here (although it's been established these lists are in the public domain), thus I'm not sure how useful they are. Formerly there were "characteristic examples" listed on Israeli violence against Palestinian children, but they've been broken out like this. Although these lists do seem inflamatory, it should be remembered we still have Terrorism against Israel in 2003, ect. I would favor deletion, but only deletion of both sets. Otherwise, merge them in. That is, merge and delete (history merge and delete further recreations). Cool Hand Luke  00:26, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * This is "statistical source data" and, as such, should be transwikied to Wikisource. We don't keep primary source material on Wikipedia, only analysis and commentary. [[User:GeorgeStepanek|GeorgeStepanek\talk ]] 22:19, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * A transwiki to Wikisource sounds appropriate. [[User:GRider|GRider\talk]] 22:59, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. The title itself implies that it is not NPOV. - Ld 03:15, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Transwiki, or if that doesn't happen, delete. There's nothing wrong with the title, facts can't be POV, but I don't think this is encyclopaedic (just as much as I don't see much use for a List of children killed by lightning in 2004) --fvw *  03:27, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)
 * Delete. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality/talk]] 03:28, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)
 * Transwiki Wyss 03:50, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. jni 07:06, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a memorial.  Rossami (talk) 21:34, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Transwiki or Keep. I agree, though, that factual lists perhaps better belong on Wikisource, and so I will also add all other lists that I can find above. Tarek 23:18, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Well...let's not go crazy, I don't think we should move all lists, but I would stongly support moving the "Terrorism against Israel" series in this manner. Cool Hand Luke  00:26, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep as long as we're keeping the other execrable lists of intifada casualties. I think they should all be deleted, but the problems with deleting one set and keeping another should be self-evident. —Charles P. (Mirv) 00:29, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Obviously we can't delete one side and keep the other, but the solution isn't to vote Keep, but to vote Delete on both sides. Perhaps it would have been better to nominate all similar lists in one go. In any case, if anyone knows other lists which are not in this series nor included in Votes for deletion/Partial list of Palestinian terrorist acts, please go ahead and nominate them. – [[User:Smyth|Smyth\talk ]] 13:46, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Hopelessly POV as it is merely a propaganda tool, and before I get accused of being part of some "zionist conspiracy" I will state for the record that just about all the rubbish that has been generated on wikipedia about BOTH sides of the current Israeli-Palestinian conflict (or Palestinian-Israeli if you prefer, I am not taking sides) should be deleted.  This is an encyclopedia and should therefore not only be dedicated to preserving historical fact, but also putting said facts in perspective.  Every conflict is tragic, but in war people, even innocent people, die.  The fact that these children were killed by Israelis or that other children were killed by Palestinians is not at all notable or relevant and does not belong in a reputable encyclopedia. Indrian 07:25, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)
 * Do remember to vote at Votes for deletion/Partial list of Palestinian terrorist acts. Cool Hand Luke  10:42, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reminder. I actually had voted and forgot to sign, this has since been rectified. Indrian 18:14, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)
 * I agree with Mirv. Unless we get rid of all the POV rubbish that infests the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, which is impossible without also ridding ourselves of the editors who create it, we are stuck with this page and others like it. I also agree with Indrian. One list, if we must have it, of all those killed in the conflict, whoever was responsible, would be more than enough.Dr Zen 07:33, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. These pages are just here for propaganda value. [ by 129.64.154.22 —Charles P. (Mirv) 10:23, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)]
 * Delete. I'm not sure what purpose these pages serve other than as propaganda. This is an encyclopedia and these pages have no place here. Carrp 17:02, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. I'm quite shocked that this was listed for deletion.  --[[User:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway|Talk]] 16:00, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep* as well. I certainly hope that neocon propaganda will rule here on this topic. 4.247.170.213CiaraBeth
 * Delete jguk 16:23, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Transwiki and delete. --Conti|✉ 16:26, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Move to Wikisource seems nice, but it would need NPOVing (like, should never say Israeli occupational forces, but IDF instead). Also, would need to verify the claims. Does the list come from Palestenian sources? If Israel denies that, then the list would not be NPOV anymore, as we can't be sure whether the facts listed are real or are propaganda. Palestenian terror acts in Israel are at least verifiable, and always admitted by both sides, whereas this is not the case now. Israel does sometimes admit the IDF killed some civilians, then it's fair - but there are many cases when Palestenians say some were killed, and Israel denies that. Solver 22:31, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep* First No body even Israeli government can disagree with all of it. At Best (or worst) it can be said that some of it  May be incorrect. To reduce the objections following steps can be taken
 * Objection It is not authentic.
 * Response' some part of it may not be correct (same is true for every thing if you about the mathematics theorem which says that nothing can be rigorously proven)
 * Solution If objection still persist, a section on authenticity of the claims may be provided in the article.
 * Objection It is memorial type article
 * Response It is not memorial as it doesn't cover people effected by a single incidence. And some of the events may be given separate articles! Like bombardment of any particular day if it killed many people.
 * Solution If objection still persist article can be renamed to 'list of incidences involving killing of Palestinian children' Similar to List of terrorist incidentsand even more all these incidences can be added into List of terrorist incidents as terrorism is defined in the page Terrorism and I quote
 * "use of violence against noncombatants for the purpose of achieving a political goal, on a scale smaller than full-scale warfare, also called low-intensity warfare or guerrilla tactics. Acts of terrorism can be perpetrated by individuals, groups, or states"
 * as you can see from definition and words which I highlighted that they can easily be claimed terrorist incidences.
 * Another suggestion which I will like to make is that this article should be mentioned in State Terrorism
 * Zain 00:52, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Strong Delete -- propaganda without encyclopedic value. Many of the Palestinian casualties of this conflict have come during gunfire exchanges between IDF troops and Palestinian militants and therefore cannot be said that they were all "killed by Israelis". Jewbacca 04:02, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delette - As sad as this is, delete. Otherwise look forward to names of children killed by Palestinians; names of children killed by XYZ, etc. Good for a website to remember these victims. Not good for an encyclopedia. --04:23, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Is any body reading Deletion Policy Please read the Deletion policy carefully now let me put some points which it say "Problems that  don't require deletion "
 * Such a minor branch of a subject that it doesn't deserve an article
 * Article duplicates information in some other article
 * Article needs improvement
 * Article needs a lot of improvement
 * Article is biased or has lots of POV
 * Dispute over article content
 * Can't verify information in article
 * Vandalism or inaccuracy

 * And all these points are not written by me! it is simply copy paste from Deletion_policy 'as it is' without any alteration by me!. In the light of points which I have copy pasted I will say strongly strongly not delete.  Please also read Deletion _guidelines_for_administrators It has only one point in bold which is point number 4.
 * and I quote
 * When in doubt, don't delete
 * So don't delete
 * Zain 14:36, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * You posted 8 reasons not to delete. None of them apply to this article. – [[User:Smyth|Smyth\talk ]] 18:31, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I have specifically chosen those points which apply on it. I didn't copy paste by random but copy pasted those points which were raised by voters to delete. It can be very evident if you again look from top to bottom at the votes and their comments. For you let me copy paste some of them
 * Astrotrain
 * Neutrality
 * Ld
 * NPOV
 * Indrian
 * NPOV and unecyclopedic as I state at the end of my statement. Indrian 00:36, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * Mirv
 * NPOV
 * Solver
 * NPOV
 * Jewbacca
 * Accuracy
 * Evolver_of_Borg
 * NPOV
 * IZAK
 * NPOV
 * Jfdwolff
 * Verification
 * Jayjg
 * POV and Verification

 * Many of the people haven't told the reason for delete and just said Delete, assuming that many of them will be citing NPOV, Accuracy, ‘Confirmation Problem’, ‘content dispute’ as main reasons, you have to consider deletion on merit. You don’t have to only count votes but also have to see the reason they present. Let’s say majority of Nazi Germany agreed with hitler Policies and voted him chancellor, so does this means that, Hitler purposed the correct ‘final solution’ to ‘jewish problem. You just don’t have to count votes, you have to see reasons too.
 * If you read the comments again you will see that many are chosing NPOV, accuracy and other non-valid reasons for deletion as per Deletion_policy. Some might see other reasons for deletion which might seem some what valid for deletion, but those too I have answered in my first comments.
 * Now let's try to understand why wikipedia deletion policy exists in the first place! it doesn't exist to eliminate NPOV. It is simply to avoid People adding recepies, user manuals, personal pages on wikipedia. And in all other cases it should not be deleted so if you see Deletion _guidelines_for_administrators only and only one point is shown in bold that is point No 4. which says  When in doubt, don't delete Reason is that, if NPOV or other such problems are causing people to vote for deletion it shouldn't be deleted because some extra kilobytes of text are not big burden on the server. It will take lesser space then a single image. Only problem is that if people start to add their personal pages and their blogs on wiki it will require some extra hardware. My personal perception (which can be wrong) is that people are mostly voting Delete because of NPOV and for ease in confirming, I have tried to list, so you can confirm it by reading user comments that many are citing NPOV as reason. So I don't think it should be deleted.
 * Wikipedia is not for Hiding information but is about sharing information, same as all open source projects.
 * In short strong strong keep because of the very reason it is NPOV
 * Zain 00:17, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * If the it is NPOV, why mention only the children? I detect a "save the children" motive behind this article.  I would not object to an article listing major incidents in which the IDF used violence against Palestinian civilians.  The reason to delete is not to save space, but make Wikipedia neutral to both sides.  --Ld 04:05, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * You are not getting my point I say OK let's say it is POV. But as per Deletion policy you shouldn't delete if POV. If it is NPOV take following steps.
 * First you should try to edit the page to improve it and attempt to make it NPOV.
 * If your changes are reverted multiple times try to discuss it.
 * If discussion not helping try to take some break.
 * If still same problem remains try to find third persons.
 * And If all fails ask for ‘official mediation’.
 * Deletion is not an option for NPOV
 * SoStrong Keep
 * Zain 23:54, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I'm just wondering where it says that Deletion is not an option for NPOV. Could you link to that policy or guideline? If I post a list of everyone who's died in my town this year, is that an acceptable article? Isn't it true that even a NPOV article might not be suitable for an encyclopedia? Carrp 00:00, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * It is mentioned here Deletion policy for a fully list of reason which are currently applied on this article but don't qualify as 'legitimate' reasons, please see my earlier detailed comments. with heading of 'is some body reading deletion policy'. As far as your second part of question is concerned Yes if it is not of interest of readers it should be deleted. Zain 18:55, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * "You posted 8 reasons not to delete. None of them apply to this article. – Smyth\talk 18:31, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)" - nearly all of them do. Keep. Dan100 22:55, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is just a stupid POV article. I'd say keep, however, the only way I would allow this article to be kept is to have a number of articles compiled listing the names of all Kurdish children killed under the Bathist Iraqi regime, all the children killed by Hutu militia in the Rwandan genocide, etc, in addition to an article listing the number of Israeli children killed by the refusal of the PA to crack down on Palestinian terrorists and to comply to the Oslo Peace Accords. That would be truly even handed, yet I doubt the inconsistent member of the left who posted this would bother, since they couldn't care about the truly innocent black children being murdered by the minute by Janjaweed in Sudan. Evolver of Borg 10:43, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: if these people aren't famous before being killed, and their killing didn't make them famous, then they're not worth having in a list. It's unfortunate that they have died, but wikipedia is not a memorial site. Shane King 00:52, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * Response to memorial problemMemorial Point was the only valid point raised, I think for this we should do some change in Title and content like we should change it to some thing like List of incidences where Palestinian children killed by Israelis in 2004 and attempt not to put that much emphases at the names or personal background of each child. We should make it some thing like List of terrorist incidents which is of course not a memorial. So at maximum it should be candidate of cleanup. and as per wikipedia deletion policy it is written that if contents are disputed, it can't be deleted. So that’s why I think it should not be deleted. Zain 02:14, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * The revised article you describe would certainly solve the "Wikipedia is not a memorial" problem. It would also be a completely different article.  New title and new content - you're talking about starting over anyway.  You have not yet convinced me to change my vote.  Rossami (talk) 00:24, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Delete, what is with the add-ons: "and 2003, and 2002, and 2001, and 2000)" in this sub-title, it makes it sound like a vindictive one-way POV obsession.IZAK 07:44, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep - It's encyclopedic, and needed. The idea of deleting it is very POV. --195.7.55.146 10:49, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep - This is a vital documentation of the children of the rightful owners of the land of Palestine who have been killed in a war they did not ask for. (added by User:80.77.201.191)
 * Comment The above are anonymous and will not be counted. --Ld 18:40, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * There is no policy (that I know of) that says that anons votes don't count. Please remember, assume good faith, don't bite the newcomers and love thy Wikipedian ;-) Paul August ☎ 06:44, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * For deletion votes, I think we need a slightly higher standard than assuming good faith. If someone feels that a page is a "strong keep", I'm sure they could take a few minutes to register. Allowing anonymous votes would enable users to vote multiple time, which defintely is not the intent. Carrp 12:50, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: Actually, there is a long-standing requirement that contributors to VfD discussion threads must be established members of the community.  We assume good faith where possible but these discussions have been frequently attacked by users who attempted to use sockpuppets to bias the outcome.  The defense against sockpuppetry is to discount the suspect votes - those from anonymous users and users with brand-new accounts.  It's a bit strong to say that those votes "will not be counted" but it is our normal practice that they are steeply discounted by the admin who makes the final decision. Rossami (talk) 00:24, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Depending on whether their votes accord with the admin's wishes usually.Dr Zen 05:43, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Do you have any evidence of that, or is it merely a defamatory and unsubstantiated claim? Jayjg 06:08, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Who exactly is defamed by that suggestion? If the cap doesn't fit, no one's asking you to wear it.Dr Zen 07:23, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Where is this "long standing requirement" written down? The only applicable policy that I'm aware of is: "administrators can disregard votes and comments if they feel that there is strong evidence that they were not made in good faith." (Deletion guidelines for administrators) So unless there is "strong evidence of bad faith" our policy is that they count. Paul August ☎ 04:50, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong delete. Who is going to verify the causes of death? Why don't we list all Iraqi children killed by US & UK troops? Or Chechen children by the Russians? Indeed, we're not a memorial. JFW | T@lk  00:00, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. POV and unverifiable, and Wikipedia is not a memorial.  Get rid of Operation Days of Penitence Fatalities while you're at it.  If delete fails, transwiki as above. Jayjg 00:05, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * It is interesting to note that how many people are voting without reading 'wikipedia deletion policy'. 'POV and unverifiable' are not valid reason for deletion according to wikipedia deletion policy. and Memorial problem can be fixed by changing content. Removing personal information of the children and make it 'incident record' rather then 'children record'.
 * Zain 00:43, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Jayjg and Days of Penitence Although I believe in no personal attacks but after your mention I just checked the page. If you think it is some thing not worth on wiki. Why are you actively editing and Discussing on Talk?. To me it looked very funny. Zain 00:54, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Please keep the discussion on the Vote for deletion of this page. I suggest you, Zain, remove your above comment from this page to keep this page relevant.  Jewbacca 00:58, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * You should have said it to Jayjg first! please see Get rid of Operation Days of Penitence Fatalities while you're at it. Any way I going out now. Will see the response tomorrow. Zain 01:09, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Put your issues with Jayjg on something unrelated to this Vote for deletion on his talk page, not here. Jewbacca 01:14, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * How do you expect your scolding to be taken as anything other than a bad-faith attack when you do not direct it at both sides? Dr Zen 05:43, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Del per my policies.  ←Humus sapiens←Talk 11:01, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Clearly. - Xed 11:20, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, maybe transwiki to keep facts, and deletion of similar articles from either side of the IPC.  — mark ✎ 15:34, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Transwiki. What next, List of people killed in World War II? [[User:Xezbeth| Xezbeth ]] 17:46, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, deaths are not encyclopedic. Providing the statistics is enough. Fredrik | talk 19:46, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep Also copy it to transwiki. Remember, your child could be the next! Hugokohn 20:24, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet warning: Hugokohn's only edits so far are the above vote and his user page. Fredrik | talk 21:26, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Transwiki. Names of individuals killed in a conflict (and significant for no other reason) belong in Wikisource.  Summaries of statistics on the number of deaths (broken down demographically where the information is available) are appropriate for Wikipedia, as is information on any particularly notable individuals killed.  --TenOfAllTrades 21:47, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong keep or transwiki along with every other list of names. [[User:Eequor|‣ ᓛᖁ  [[Image:Venus symbol (blue).gif|♀]] [ ᑐ ]]] 22:28, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: non-encyclopedic DCEdwards1966 01:26, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep - We have a list of all the casualties on 9/11. - SimonP 04:29, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)
 * Is that article called "List of American civilians killed by Muslims on Sept 11 2001"? Jayjg 05:06, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * For balance we would also need List of American children killed by Muslims in 2001
 * Nope, I think you are wrong here because of two reasons
 * If it is List of Palestenians died of any cause known in the world it will be not 'encylopediac', so Israel is used. It is important collection of facts, in the context of 'Arab-Israli' conflict. Resemblence to 9/11 is that, it included many 'small scale' 9/11 as they include deaths of 'non-combats' (If you think a 4 year is a 'Terrorist' I can't help it).
 * If it includes incidences which were not done by Israeli. Please help improve wikipedia by removing it and making it more factual. All your help will be really appreciated.
 * There are no notable names on these lists, not even as notable as a one-time joke on a cartoon show. They are nothing, don't rate even a few bytes on this harddrive. And we all feel safer staying on the side with the power, same as back in '38. Keep Meggar 06:05, 2004 Dec 23 (UTC)

Current count is 22 votes for deletion, 8 to keep and 10 for transwiki, excluding anonymous users. (This count was provided by User:Carrp who forgot to sign. Paul August ☎ 16:37, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC) )
 * Of course as pointed out above unless there is "strong evidence of bad faith" our current policy is that anon votes do count. So by my count, the current vote is:
 * Delete: 22 (including one anon and one unsigned vote), keep: 11 (including three anons and a new user with no previous edits), transwiki: 10.
 * These counts do not include a "merge and delete" vote by Cool Hand Luke, and a possible vote by Dr Zen. Paul August ☎ 16:37, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion or on the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Expo 2008

Expo 2008 was an international exposition held from Saturday 14 June to Sunday 14 September 2008 in Zaragoza, Spain, with the theme of "Water and Sustainable Development". The exposition was placed in a meander of the river Ebro. It was coordinated by the Bureau International des Expositions, the organization responsible for sanctioning World's Fairs.

Zaragoza, host city for the international exposition, is the administrative and financial capital of the autonomous community of Aragon and Spain's fifth most populous city. Zaragoza was elected the host city of Expo 2008 on 16 December 2004 by the BIE, beating Thessaloniki (Greece) and Trieste (Italy).

The exhibition's most emblematic buildings were the Water Tower, an 80-metre-high transparent building designed by Enrique de Teresa to evoke a drop of water, Zaha Hadid's Bridge Pavilion, and the river aquarium. The exposition site also hosted several events, including a daily parade by Cirque du Soleil called The Awakening of the Serpent.

Aside from the countries, non-government organizations and private companies took part in Expo 2008, always with the idea of water and sustainable development. Prior to the event, the Expo 2008 host committee estimated that the exposition could generate 135 million euros in receipts for admission to the exhibition centre.

Bridge pavilion
The Bridge Pavilion was one of the most emblematic buildings of Expo 2008. Designed by Zaha Hadid, it was built in two levels with the shape of a gladiolus opening and closing. It joins the neighbourhood of La Almozara and the Expo site with a central island in the river Ebro.

The Bridge Pavilion hosted the exposition Water – a unique resource, designed by Ralph Appelbaum Associates, which tried to present water as a universal human right, to inform visitors how water is a unique resource and to explain water management procedures and encourage citizen participation.

Water tower
The Water Tower was another emblematic building of Expo 2008 and its vertical icon. Designed by Enrique de Teresa, it is 76 metres high with 10,400 accessible square metres. On the top floor, there is a 720-square-metre panoramic bar with fantastic views over Zaragoza. Inside the tower there is a 23-metre-high sculpture called Splash, which represents a splash of water, "the arrival of life on our planet". The Splash sculpture, based on dynamic simulation systems, was designed by Mona Kim, Todd Palmer, Olga Subirós and Simon Taylor from Program Collective.

The Water Tower hosted the exposition Water for life where "audiovisual media and lighting play a key role in the way the contents are communicated".

Aquarium
This thematic pavilion, which remained in operation after the expo, is the biggest freshwater aquarium in Europe, with 300 species of fauna from rivers around the world in 60 tanks or terrariums. Rivers represented are:
 * The Nile: It contains species of the great African lakes. It also has crocodiles and an exhibition on the Mediterranean and the Red Sea.
 * The Mekong: In this river visitors will find species of the Himalayas, gardens from the river's lower course, the Pacific Ocean and coral reefs.
 * The Amazon River: It is divided into three different areas. The first of them is the Amazon jungle with its coconut trees and mangroves. The second area is about the Amazon forest while the third area is the mangrove swamp with an exhibition on the Atlantic Ocean.
 * The Murray-Darling river: This exhibition begins in the flooded regions and goes through desert areas. It finishes with a video exhibition about birds.
 * The Ebro: It is also represented in two areas. The first area is a mountain cave and the second is the course of the river. There will also be an exhibition on the Mediterranean Sea.
 * The "World River": It represents the past, when "all the continents were united as a single island surrounded by ocean".

Thirst

This thematic square employed mirrors, audiovisual projections and combinations of light and sound to create optical illusions. It was 46.7 metres in diameter, covering a total area of 1,640 square metres (820 of them were the exposition area).

Igloo of salt
Designed by Cloud 9 / Enric Ruiz-Geli, this plaza's architecture was that of an enigmatic building. It was an inflatable structure covered with salt that reflected the sun's rays and lit up at night as if it had stored all of the necessary energy to continue to function.

This themed plaza was designed according to Expo Zaragoza 2008's sustainability criteria: the use of PVC was avoided in electrical wiring, as well as tropical wood, synthetic varnish or solvent-based paints; taps made use of water-saving systems. Additionally, the frame was hired out to avoid having to demolish it once the expo was complete.

The use of EFTE in the building's three-layered roof made air conditioning unnecessary. One of the EFTE layers was silver-plated to refract light and prevent outside heat from penetrating the building; air in the inflatable components and a Brine system irrigating them cooled the interior. All of this created a temperate building, meaning that the climate control system only needed to work against body heat produced by visitors and heat given off by equipment used in the exhibition. This way the organisers could make use of a system that was much more sustainable and inexpensive than conventional air conditioning.

Cities of water
This square had no walls, so its contents were visible from outside. The exhibit was about water as an "urban resource" and a "natural element in the process of improving quality of life in cities".

Extreme water
This square symbolised the moment when a wave breaks on the beach. It was divided into two areas: the first was the sensorial area with 120 mobile seats where audiovisuals were projected; the second was the ideas area with interactive platforms, images and texts about water and its risks.

Oikos, water and energy
This exhibit was about getting energy from water.

Shared water
This thematic square showed visitors how political divisions affect the management of water.

Aquatic inspirations
This square hosted the show El hombre vertiente, created by the Argentine Pichón Baldinu, six times a day.

Country pavilions
More than one hundred countries, plus dozens of companies and NGOs, participated in Expo 2008. The confirmed list had these 104 countries (arranged in alphabetical order):

The 17 autonomous communities of Spain and two autonomous cities of Ceuta and Melilla also participated, as did as the United Nations and the European Union.

The pavilions for official participants were divided into eight large buildings and into five differentiated eco-geographical areas within the Expo 2008 Exposition site. Those areas were:

 * Islands and Coasts
 * Oasis
 * Ice and snow
 * Temperate Forests
 * Tropical Rainforests
 * Mountains and High Plains
 * Grasslands, Steppes and Savannahs
 * Rivers and Flat plains

The joint pavilions corresponding to the eco-geographic areas of Grasslands, Steppes and Savannahs, Tropical Rainforests and Islands and Coasts, were built by the organisers to house the pavilions of countries of Sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean Community (CARICOM), respectively. The total surface area of the participating countries pavilions was 61,667 m2.

Spain and the region of Aragon, as hosts, had their own separate pavilions. The Spain Pavilion was designed by Patxi Mangado, and the Aragon Pavilion, which resembled local basketweaving, by Daniel Olano.

Citizen's initiative pavilion
This pavilion had the shape of a beacon, "a symbol of hope for the future of water in our world". It expressed the vitality of ordinary people and non-governmental organisations. The Beacon was situated by the Bridge Pavilion entrance.

Gold Prize award
The Philippines, on 19 September 2008 won the "Gold Prize", the Expo's highest award for a participating country. The award noted the quality of the Philippine pavilion's internal and external décor, consisting of 1,000 crystal-like bubble sand, as well as its functionality, which had supreme relevance to the exposition's theme of "Water and Sustainable Development". Tourism Secretary Joseph Ace Durano said "this recognition is truly well-deserved as our country’s wealthy aquatic life has been captured by the equally rich imagination of our fellowmen. While other countries utilized ultra modern technology, we chose to highlight more community-involved practices as well as natural land irrigation, aquatic recreation and marine resources preservation". The Philippine pavilion's attractions included the meeting of the two mascots, Fluvi and Filippo, and "Filipinas Te Espera Nights", a series of marketing events.

Shows
Expo 2008 had a 93-day-long show programme with more than 3,400 acts from more than 350 companies and artists.

On the expo site, there were three shows called major events. They were:

Iceberg
This show was intended to be the artistic part of the Opening Ceremony, although the flood of the river Ebro in the previous days forced plans to change, as the set was situated in the middle of the river. Nevertheless, the show was presented each night starting on 20 June. The Spanish director Calixto Bieito and the scenographer Alfons Flores were responsible for the set design while the music was by José Luis Romeo. The show had a huge iceberg with a minute human figure designed by the Catalan company FOCUS.

El hombre vertiente
This show, created by the Argentine Pichón Baldinu, was the artistic part of the Opening Ceremony on 13 June 2008, in replacement of "Iceberg". It repeated six times throughout the day at the thematic square Water Inspirations.

The Awakening of the Serpent
This water-themed parade took place every day at the Expo site as "The Awakening of the Serpent" wandered around the site. The parade's creative director was Jean François Brouchard and its artistic director Julien Gabriel. Canada's Cirque du Soleil participated with acrobats, actors, gymnasts, singers and musicians.

Bob Dylan and additional American artists
Expo 2008 officially opened with a concert by Bob Dylan, the Official Artist of Expo 2008.

Additional American artists scheduled to perform on the evening entertainment stage included Patti Smith, Robert Cray, Keb Mo, Ruben Blades, Canadian Diana Krall, The Stray Cats, Los Lobos and Gloria Estefan. A performance by Philip Glass closed Expo 2008.

Mascot
The Expo 2008 mascot was Fluvi, a little male drop of water.

With his best friend Ica, the smallest drop of water, and Nico and Laurita, he fought against the pollution made by Sec and Raspa, the evil Negas.

Qatar issued a postage stamp miniature sheet commemorating Expo Zaragoza 2008, which pictured Fluvi.

After the Expo
The exposition site and its facilities were planned thinking of their usage as a new extension of the city when the Expo finished in September 2008. The expectation was that some the buildings would be rented or transferred to several institutions. The Aragon Pavilion was to be converted into the head office of a regional ministry, while the landmark buildings of the Expo, the Water Tower and the Bridge Pavilion, were expected to be purchased by local financial institutions. The Spanish Pavilion was expected to be used by the University of Zaragoza to set up a new school of architecture.

The international pavilions were to be remodelled and converted into offices so that the site would become the main business park in Zaragoza. This space was also to have recreational establishments and restaurants.

Other expectations were that a great part of the site would be used for shopping establishments and for the construction of a science park for businesses.

The Aquarium, as the largest freshwater aquarium in Europe, has continued operation till the present day.

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Forest Hill High School

Forest Hill High School is a public high school located in Jackson, Mississippi, United States. It serves students from grades 9–12, and is part of the Jackson Public School District. The current principal is Torrey Hampton.

Demographics
A total of 1,136 students were enrolled in Forest Hill High during the 2006–2007 school year. The gender makeup of the district was 51% female and 49% male. The racial makeup of the school was 96.39% African American, 2.90% White, 0.35% Hispanic, and 0.35% Asian.

Gifted Education/Open Doors
Gifted courses in grades 9–12 are offered based upon funding and teacher units provided by the state. Currently, Forest Hill High School is the only high school in the Jackson Public School District to offer gifted courses in English/language arts.

Feeder pattern
The following schools feed into Forest Hill High School.

 * Middle Schools
 * Cardozo Middle School
 * Elementary Schools
 * Bates Elementary School
 * Oak Forest Elementary School
 * Timberlawn Elementary School
 * Van Winkle Elementary School

Controversy
On October 5, 2018, the school's band performed at halftime in a game against Brookhaven High School, where 2 police officers were shot and killed earlier that week. The band's performance was based on the film John Q., that simulated police being shot by band members dressed as doctors and nurses. This has resulted in general outrage as the governor himself, Phil Bryant, condemned this act.

title: Forest Hill High School


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User talk:BerserkerBen

Please complain about any editing I have done that you find wrong in anyway.

Image:Hemocyanin.jpg
Heya, do you have permission to repost Image:Hemocyanin.jpg here? If not, it is considered a copyright violation and will be deleted. --fvw *  21:27, 2004 Dec 16 (UTC)
 * The image is generated from a .cn3 file off the Pubmed Network and is not under copyright protection. If you wish I could generate the image my self off .cn3 file. BerserkerBen
 * The resulting files look reasonably different, so I suspect the generation does count as creating a copyrightable work. The second one you uploaded looks fine though. Could you tag it with the appropriate tag from Image copyright tags? Thanks! --fvw *  22:40, 2004 Dec 16 (UTC)
 * Actually I can change the color, style and arangement of the model, it also depends on what modeling display program is used. But I do like hte advatage of Home made images, I made one for Image:Hemerythrin.jpg as well. BerserkerBen

Wiktionary links
Ben, it is not Wikipedia policy to create inline links to wiktionary articles, such as you did to steric in hemoglobin. Sometimes a further search on Wikipedia will give you the relevant information. In this case, something about protein structure must be present (otherwise, we should write it!) JFW | T@lk  14:43, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Do you want me to make a page on steric effect then? --BerserkerBen 20:47, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Well, that would be very good! JFW | T@lk  21:30, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Flood Geology
Thanks for getting the "Neutrality" comment in the Flood geology article. There is a guy who watches it like a bulldog. I was going to give it a major workover, but he immediately reverted all my initial edits, and I'm just too busy to argue. Good luck! --DanielCD 03:59, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your support but I'm not going to fight him, rather I will simply state the truth that the article is bias and gross support of pseudoscience… I'll keep that tag up until neutrality is achieved though. --BerserkerBen 04:11, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Deluge (mythology)
May I ask why my minor copy-edit was removed on this? article? I'm prepared to accept there might be a reason, I just can't work out what it might be!

Also, the Black Sea theory does have its own article - Black Sea deluge theory Thryduulf 20:17, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Well then past that link to the black sea deluge thoery --BerserkerBen 20:41, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter
I have removed the copyvio notice, because there is no copyvio that I can see. See my comment at Votes for deletion/Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. -- Curps 06:09, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Great then, then can you merge or copy what in the temp and delete it, or what ever? I guess I could do everyhting but hte delete part. --BerserkerBen 06:16, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, I have put up a notice on both pages.  It seems like there is useful information on both pages.  I don't have time to do the merge right now, though. -- Curps 06:40, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * well I did it, see Votes for deletion/Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter for more info.--BerserkerBen 07:13, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

source information for RTG picture
Thanks for finding Image:Soviet RTG.jpg, it's great to have a picture of it. But could you please indicate the source and why you think it's a public domain picture? The only source I can find is on bellona.no, which doesn't release their own stuff into the public domain, and they credit the picture to someone else. --Andrew 17:32, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * That sites credits the picture to the "Finnmark region government" as a government provided image or information its is open to public domain, but sure that site is the secondary source, credit it as well. --BerserkerBen 18:45, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * It's just not true that government-created images are public domain! For example, everything created by the Canadian government is under Crown copyright, which is in particular not free enough for inclusion in Wikipedia (except for fair use).  In fact, the only exceptions I know of are the US Federal government, and the government of the state of California. Other state governments do not release their material as public domain.  I hope you have not tagged very many images as public domain for this reason! --Andrew 19:59, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * far enough then, but what about Finnmark copyright laws?--BerserkerBen 22:08, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * What about them? Unless you have reason to think they release everything into the  public domain, we can't assume they do.  For general copyright law, essentially every country is a signatory to the Berne convention so it's enforced, albeit with enough minor differences to be a total morass.  BTW, I emailed bellona to try to clarify whether we actually have nay rights to the picture at all (other than possible fair use).  --Andrew 05:15, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Well then put a fair use tag ang get on with it, there is neither artistic nor monatary value to that picture. --BerserkerBen 06:11, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hemoglobin
Hi, I'm an italian user. I'm writing the hemoglobin page and I want to insert your hemoglobin animation, why don't you upload it on Wiki:commons? thanks the doc

Sure, you can do it though can't you?, cause I don't really have time right now, grazie.

Aliens
You pre-empted a plan of mine in moving Silicon-based and Ammonia-based out of Extraterrestrials and suggesting morphology in its place. I was sitting on a section in just that regard and decided to throw it out there when I noticed your edit. Curious if you had had something particular in store. Marskell 19:28, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't know there are a lot of speculation on what alien biosphere would be like, with such variables as surface gravity, sunlight, planetary orbit, planetary tilt, ect, not just in sci-fi heck you can watch national geographic or science channel and occasionally come upon a program that covers all the weird possibility in 3d graphics. --BerserkerBen 03:15, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Gravity effects are certainly a main point of speculation as they apply not just to aliens but potentially to ourselves on Mars etc. The problem with including too much of that stuff on the Extraterrestrial page is that its hard to distinguish between "good speculation" and junk or between on-topic hypotheses and tangents. Alien biospheres is logically its own topic, for instance. I'd suggest sticking with short, cogent sub-links whenever a particular issue needs clarification rather than getting lost in diversions on the main page; just added Back-contamination for instance. Marskell 09:48, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

HAV prototype and charged armor
The HAV link you put in leads to a disambiguation page that has nothing to do with tanks or AFVs. I did several Google searches with several variations of several terms (the funniest of them was a Google image search with the words HAV, tank, and design since it gave me t-shirts for pretty ladies) and could not find anything relevant. Could you spell out the acronym or give more info or cite your sources (as we are all supposed to do in Wikipedia, in theory) so that we can copyedit and add more? Same thing for your paragraph: "Other proposals uses a layered charged armor powered by a capacitor under neither standard armor: penetration of the standard armor by a shaped charge results in a massive discharging of the electricity from the charged armor into the incoming jet of explosive gas/plasma this disrupts its flow and direction, also the electric discharge can vaporize molten metal used in some shape charges to increase penetration." With the sources we could understand what is going on, otherwise it isn't clear if you are saying that the capacitor is under standard armor or not, or that standard armor is not involved at all. --AlainV 00:13, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry I'm pretty sure I miss-acronym it, I was looking for the proper acronym and place HAV (for Heavy Armour Vehicle in conjunction with the MAV as a temporary acronym when I was writing it and gathering sources, and forget to change it, in the report http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/1997/5fcs97.pdf it is mentioned as FCS (Future Combat Systems) and the FCS) site on [[FAS] states the specific tank design as “US Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command's future land combat system vehicle” aaaaaah I don’t think that can be acronymed (UATaACflcs?) here is as quote:

''The US Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command's future land combat system vehicle is a 40-ton concept based on evolutionary tank design and technology which pushes the two-person crew down and forward into the hull with a remote turret. The crew receives information from on-board target acquisition and hit avoidance sensors. Target acquisition sensors are the gunner's primary sight, a panoramic sight and an auxiliary sight. Hit avoidance sensors are mounted in the four corners of the turret. A high pressure, 120mm gun (XM291) is mounted on the turret. ''
 * Anyways I'll fix that now, as for my references there all listed at the bottom, a more formal and proper reference layout I did not have time for, but please correct that if you wish. --BerserkerBen 02:27, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Hemoglobin t-r state ani.gif
Hi, there seems to be some transparency problem with Image :Hemoglobin t-r state ani.gif. You might want to take a look. -- Paul Richter 15:57, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

What is the problem? --BerserkerBen 20:11, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Hemoglobin t-r gif.
I love this and it works great on the page. However, it would be even better if the oxygen binding to the iron were shown as something other than just a stick. Couldn't you put the O2 molecule in as a thingy of proper size, and some other color, so it was more obvious where it goes? Sbharris 22:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Could you put in a reference for...
This edit on Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, something like. Thx. --JamesHoadley 06:14, 14 March 2006 (UTC) Ya, NASA TV, I watch and recorded the insertion and post insertion conferences and that is what they said happened. I don’t know if I can link it, unless you can find a transcript.--BerserkerBen 06:22, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

"censorship"
What exactly are you meant to do about people who randomly censor images without even discussing it?
 * I don't understand the question. --BerserkerBen 22:50, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * oh, sorry. Errm ... this is in reference to the image on Circumcision that someone replaced with "censored due to obsenity" or something. I was wondering if there was like an official, or even unofficial wiki-way of sorting it? or is it just revert and hope for the best? (i just realised i forgot to sign the first comment too, sorry again)--Alex uk 86 13:07, 25 May 2006

(UTC)
 * No wiki has no policy on "obscene" images--BerserkerBen 18:23, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:D-Lysergic Acid Diethylamid.jpg listed for deletion
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 * I have no disagreement with its deletion what so ever; what bothers me though is that a picture that vulgar, disgusting and offensive to women and midgets could last that long on wikipedia. --BerserkerBen 16:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Graphics Software
What software do you use to create your biomolecular images? I'd like to create one for Zif268. --Username132 (talk) 18:56, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * CN3D, you can download it for free.

This month's WP:MCB Article Improvement Drive article
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This month's WP:MCB Article Improvement Drive article
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One more vote for the coordinator of the Molecular and Cellular Biology Wikiproject
Since two of the three editors nominated for Coordinator of the MCB Wikiproject declined their nominations, one more vote has been posted: should the remaining nominee, ClockworkSoul, be named as the coordinator, or should nominations be reopened? Every opinion counts, so please vote! – ClockworkSoul 17:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

This month's winner is proteasome!
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This month's MCB Collaboration of the Month article is Peripheral membrane protein!
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Hemoglobin article
Should've got in touch with you earlier! (Nice animation by the way.) What do you think about the current compromise in the article? The problem we're having is that your lovely big picture doesn't seem to look so good when you scale it down. Would it be possible to have a scaled-down version which still shows all the relevant bits? Ta muchly.Mmoneypenny 06:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC) The problem might be that its complied as a gif. I could shrink it down using the stills and recompile it and see what I get. --BerserkerBen 09:52, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

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please help
can you please mail me or refer me to any link that would help me understand the biochemical process of oxidation of myoglobin n haemoglobin along with their protein tertiary n quartenary structures???Vik4989 06:33, 5 August 2007 (UTC) and also is there no page for chaperonens( i guess i got the spelling correct) the protein folding enzymes in Wiki??? if not can u also please send me some explanation about that??Vik4989 06:51, 5 August 2007 (UTC) -Chaperonin -Heme --BerserkerBen 15:06, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * thanks a lotVik4989 05:44, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Stormtrooper effect
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When the image was posted it was tag acceptably to the standards then, the standards have changed and since your spending the time to find these images and post notices you could vary well just make up the tag your self. Just post a blank tag like this:

See not hard just copy and past them on and safe who ever you want the blame the problem on some time, heck you could even fill in most of the blanks if the information is present via the old templates and notes. --BerserkerBen 04:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

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MRO
Do you have any interest in helping me get the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter article to FA status? -Ravedave (talk) 03:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Sure, but it not like you guys didn't try before, Don't ask me to help too much I lost my faith in wikipedia a long time ago.--BerserkerBen (talk) 04:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Hah ok. The article looks good as far as I can see except for the "Events and discoveries" section. So if you find any info please add it. Thanks. -Ravedave (talk) 05:10, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Please help save Repo Man movie article
Hi Ben,

This guy, Dædαlus, is in there trying to remove parts that you, I and many others contributed to the Repo Man article. Please add to the bottom of this thread on the Repo Man talk page that you think the "Notable Motifs" section should not be blanked (erased), but left as is since the Pulp Fiction article also has a "Notable Motifs" section that isn't being considered for removal at all (even by Dædαlus himself).

While I agree that the "Notable Motifs" section could use some work, it certainly won't help the article to delete the whole thing and erase all our work which consists of many multiple contributers over a course of years. I'm willing to work on it and better incorporate it into the article, he just wants to delete it all!

With consensus, we can stop this guy from deleting all our work soon!

Thanks in advance. Cowicide (talk) 01:58, 1 May 2008

WikiProject Medicine/Dermatology task force
I wanted to know if you (or any friends of yours) are interested in dermatology, and would be willing to help me with the WikiProject Medicine/Dermatology task force? kilbad (talk) 18:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

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cant use File:Soviet RTG.jpg
please see the file's discussion page. sorry I am new. I have created my first article in a wiki. Hm nerd (talk) 07:54, 18 December 2010 (UTC) I don't have a clue why you could not access it, I think you have solved the problem already, if not I advise you post your questions on a wikipeida community forum. --BerserkerBen (talk) 22:05, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

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Energy content of biofuel
I BerserkerBen, I was wondering whether you or Anonymous (not sure who this is, see talk page) could add syngas to the list at Energy content of biofuel (along with the the missing info) You can then remove syngas from the see also section in the article Thanks, 91.182.154.199 (talk) 09:11, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Falcon Heavy
Hello, I'm N2e. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Falcon Heavy, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ''Hi Ben. I noticed you added some new info to the Falcon Heavy article. While these may be correct, given that FH will utilize the Merlin 1D, there is nowhere in the article where the numbers are claimed, or supported by citations, so we should not add them to the infobox without either citations, or where they repeat something sourced in the article body. Cheers. N2e (talk) 18:07, 20 March 2013 (UTC)'' N2e (talk) 18:07, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * And, yes, I just checked some of the other claims (older, existing claims) there in the info box, and see that some of them are apparently unsourced as well. I have requested some sources.  N2e (talk) 18:11, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

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King Edward VI Aston School

King Edward VI Aston School is a selective, all-boys grammar school and specialist sports college. The school, designed by Birmingham architect J.A. Chatwin, opened in 1883 and is still, with additional buildings, located on its original site, in the Aston area of Birmingham, England. King Edward VI Aston Grammar School does not charge tuition fees; pupils must pass an 11-plus entrance exam to get into the school. The King Edward Schools are fiercely competitive to get admission to. The King Edward VI Foundation holds its exams at the same time, and generally, a candidiate will sit one exam for multiple schools within the foundation.

The school is part of the Foundation of the Schools of King Edward VI, which runs nine schools in Birmingham. Currently, Aston has 963 boys.

The current headteacher is Matt Brady.

History
The King Edward VI Aston Grammar School was opened in 1883. In 1911, the girls' school moved out to a new building in Handsworth and merged with two smaller Foundation schools (Summer Hill and Bath Row). The whole Aston building was then used for boys. With the departure of the girls, the Pyramus and Thisbe Wall (which had previously served to separate the boys from the girls) was also removed. King Edward VI Aston is the only school in the foundation that still occupies its original site. The original buildings are still in regular use, but there have been significant alterations and extensions. In 1963, the "New Building" was opened. More recently, the school has added a sports hall and a building to house the languages departments and has acquired the part of Frederick Road that formerly bisected the site.

The 1963 building, now known as Douglas House (after a double-fronted Victorian villa that stood on the same site), has been extended and refurbished to provide four extra laboratories, a teaching kitchen, new classrooms for art, design technology and music, a conference room, a first aid room and offices. The extension was named the Watcyn Thomas Wing, after a former Welsh Rugby International who taught at the school for 37 years. It was opened on 20 May 2008 by Bob Simpson, an Aston Old Edwardian (as former pupils are known) and governor of the school.

The school is currently building a new catering facility near the sports hall, and has already constructed a new car park at the top of Albert Road.

The school also has a school song written in the late 1800s to commemorate the stature and honour of Edward VI.

Headmasters
Aston has had ten headmasters:

 * John Temperley – 1883—1894 (11 years)
 * Ernest W. Floyd – 1894—1912 (18 years)
 * Joseph Manton – 1913—1936 (23 years)
 * Leonard G. Brandon – 1937—1970 (33 years)
 * Dennis W. Hawley – 1970—1984 (14 years)
 * Neil W. Gamble – 1985—1991 (6 years)
 * Peter A. Christopher – 1992—2004 (12 years)
 * Colin Parker – 2004—2020 (16 years)
 * Amy Whittall – 2020—2021 (interim)
 * Matt Brady – 2021—present

The average term for an Aston headmaster has been approximately sixteen years. The longest-serving was L.G. Brandon, who held the position for 33 years (one hundred terms).

House system
The House System within the school has a fundamental role in the school's structure. It was introduced circa 1908 and very quickly produced a marked improvement in sporting standards. There were four houses which, until 1945, were known by the names of the Housemasters. The first of these were Jones's (which became Floyd house), Higgs's (which became Temperley), Lane's and Fisher's. The last two became Manton and School, though which was which is not clear from the records. This could be quite confusing when the housemaster changed, so in 1945 the present system was introduced.

From late 2009 until 2017, there were once more four houses, each of which took its name from a previous Headmaster at the school (i.e. Manton, house colour yellow, emblem a portcullis; Temperley, purple, Tudor rose; Floyd, blue (formerly brown), lion rampant; and Brandon, green, fleur de lis). Until it was ended in 1968, the fourth house was named School. From 2017, there is another house, Hawley, named after the headmaster from 1970-1984, Dennis W. Hawley. Its colour is silver and emblem is a shield.

The houses compete against each other throughout the year, in both sporting and non-sporting events. The culmination of the year's sporting House achievements is represented by the presentation of the Hawkesford Trophy (for sports) and Tuck Trophy (for non-sports) to the successful Head of House.

Sports
Recognised as a Sports College, King Edward's Aston offers as many as 27 sports and specialises in a good number of them during afternoon games sessions for all Year 7-11 pupils.

 * Rugby (Main School Sport) - Autumn/Winter/Early Spring
 * Hockey - Autumn/Winter/Early Spring
 * Athletics - Spring/Summer
 * Cricket - Spring/Summer
 * Basketball
 * Football - Spring/Summer
 * Badminton
 * Tennis
 * Table tennis

Sixth form pupils are offered the chance to take part in sporting activities during their games lessons. This has previously included undertaking conservation work at Moseley Bog.

Every year, each house competes to win the Hawkesford Trophy and Tuck Trophy based on each house's performance in a variety of sports, starting in October with the cross country race involving a 1-mile lap around Aston Park located next door to the school, and academic events, such as House Drama, House Economics, and House Scrabble. Throughout the three terms, there are sporting events such as football, badminton, basketball, volleyball, cricket, rugby, rugby sevens, tennis, and hockey, and it all culminates to the end-of-year sports day at nearby Alexander Stadium for Years 7-10.

Sporting visits
In July 2006, 35 rugby players and five staff completed a rugby tour of Australia. Previous tour destinations have included Northern Ireland and South Africa. In the summer of 2009 a tour of South Africa was completed. Additionally, each year, a group of students, usually those studying for GCSE PE, spends one week a year at Ogwen Cottage in Snowdonia, North Wales. Here, they take part in outward bounds activities such as kayaking, rock climbing, orienteering and hill walking.

Music and drama
Music and Drama are both very active departments within the school.

Music
The Music department offers tuition in almost any instrument. All boys who play an instrument are able to join one of the many ensembles in the school, ranging from the Training Band to the Big Band, which has recorded three CDs. While the school has its own String Orchestra hosted by the infamous Davidson and Concert Band, it also has a joint Orchestra with King Edward VI Handsworth. Every ensemble performs in at least one concert a year. Several of them, particularly the school Big Band, perform in many more. The department draws senior musicians from all ensembles to form pit bands for the school productions.

Each year the department is host to the annual House Music Festival in which all boys in years seven to ten have the opportunity to show off their musical talents and represent their house. The competitors are divided into several categories, by year group and instrument. Each competitor can perform in as many solo categories as they are able, and in one ensemble. The performances are judged by a visiting adjudicator.

Each year the department goes on tour and in July 1974 a number of musicians departed for Rhodesia. They met with and performed for Ian Smith and toured the country before coming under attack by the Zanu-PF on the train from Bulawayo to Pretoria.

In July 2008, many members of the same bands departed on a tour to the Rhineland.

Drama
The Drama department has a range of extracurricular activities going on throughout the year. Annually, alongside the girls' school, King Edward VI Handsworth, Aston puts on at least one full school production. The location of the main school play alternates each year, with both schools hosting a number of smaller productions. In recent years, Aston has staged West Side Story, The Threepenny Opera, October's Children, The Visit and Guys and Dolls. Productions of Return to the Forbidden Planet, Little Shop of Horrors, Grease and Fame have been staged at the girls' school with boys from Aston taking part.

The combined Sixth Forms of Aston and Handsworth also stage a production of one of Shakespeare's plays once a year.

The Drama Department also holds a House competition, in the form of the House Drama Festival. In recent years, the format has changed but the objectives are still the same. Each house holds a short production and competes against each other. A panel of judges decides which production was the best.

Festival of Cultures
For many, the highlight of the school year is the annual Festival of Cultures held in July, after all examinations have finished. The Festival aims to celebrate the broad diversity of cultures represented in the school community. It also provides students with opportunities to take part in a wide range of activities associated with individual cultures in workshops.

Before 2005, the Festival of Cultures took place during afternoon school, and students attended one workshop. The Festival also continued into the evening, with students and their families, staff, old boys, and new students (set to join in September) invited. The evening consists of a programme of entertainment, based largely on the workshops from the day. There are also displays of art work and several food outlets, including a tea shop, a barbecue and the International Food Hall. There are also several stalls, including, for the first time in 2006, a Fair Trade stall.

However, the new format of the event sees students have a whole day off timetable, and all students in Year 7-10 attend three workshop sessions. Previous workshops have included origami, Bhangra dancing, magic, yoga and pizza making, amongst many more. Prefects and staff supervise individual workshops, whilst Senior Prefects oversee the smooth running of the event as a whole. Senior Prefects also decorate the quadrangle and piazza areas with flags and bunting to add to the festival atmosphere.

School officers and prefects
Each year, Aston has a School Captain, a School Vice-Captain (or two/three Vice Captains) and a team of Senior Prefects who together help to run the school with the guidance of staff. The School Captain and Vice Captains are known as the School Officers. Every other student in Year 13 is a prefect, and approximately 20 are Senior Prefects. Each Senior Prefect leads a group of prefects in a variety of different tasks across the school including prefect duties and helping to organise events such as The Festival Of Cultures. Four House Captains are also appointed at the beginning of each year.

2018-2019 was the only academic year in which was no School Captain; instead, two Vice-Captains were elected.

Research in the school's Archive Centre has so far found the names of 100 holders of the post, stretching back to 1910.

The Record
The Record is the school magazine. It is published annually and highlights key events of the school year. Volume II can be traced back to 1910.

Old Edwardians

 * See also Category:People educated at King Edward VI Aston School.

 * Ted Allbeury (1917–2005), British author of espionage fiction
 * Gary Allen CBE, CEO of IMI plc from 1986–2001
 * Walter Allen, literary critic
 * Jon Bounds, blogger and humorist
 * Commander Sir Edgar Britten, Commodore of Cunard White Star Ltd from 1935-6
 * Sir William Brockington CBE, Director of Education for Leicestershire from 1903–47
 * Gareth Davies CBE, Chairman of Glynwed International plc from 1986–98
 * Sir Edward Downes - Conductor
 * Peter Fell, Teacher, social worker and author.
 * Ronald Graham Gregory Foley - Bishop of Reading from 1982-9
 * Bernard Ford MBE - With Diane Towler won four consecutive ice dancing world titles and four European championships in the 1960s
 * Elliot Knight - British actor, best known for his role as Sinbad in 2012
 * Derek J Lawden - Mathematician, Professor at Aston University, author of several books including one on space travel.
 * Joe Morris, rugby union player
 * John Nathan-Turner - Doctor Who producer.
 * George Painter OBE - Author - 1925
 * Sir Leonard Parsons, President of the British Paediatric Association from 1942–45
 * Captain R. E. Phillips, VC
 * Henry Reed - Poet and dramatist
 * Les Ross MBE - Radio DJ
 * Sir Maurice Shock - Educationalist
 * Sir Harold Smith - Politician & Chairman, The Gas Council, Conservative MP for Warrington from 1910–22
 * R.D. Smith - teacher, lecturer and radio producer
 * Sir Ivan Stedeford GBE - Industrialist & Philanthropist, Chairman of TI Group from 1944–63
 * Sir Henry Thomas - Keeper of Books, British Library
 * Three Lords Mayor of Birmingham: Sir Ernest Canning; Sir Joseph Balmer; Sir Neville Bosworth.
 * Nick Timothy, former Downing Street Chief of Staff

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