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Talk:Luna moth

New Picture
I have taken a picture of a female Luna moth with a wingspan of about 7.5 inches. The article describing the Luna moth gives it a wingspan of up to 4.5 inches. This should be changed since it is evident from my picture the wingspan can be much greater. Please note the moth on the brick in front of the window. I can be reached at jimdrummo@comcast.net if you like. I am located 15 miles northeast of Pittsburgh, PA. Jim Drummond (talk) 05:57, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

I have also took a picture of female Luna moth Saba imran bhat (talk) 09:26, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

But o don't know how to upload that picture here Saba imran bhat (talk) 09:31, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

On Luna Moths
Luna moths can be a valued learning opportunity for kids and families. We have found four luna moth cocoons, suspended them from a cage, and have awaited their arrival. At times, the luna moth will move in its cocoon and make sounds like a fidgeting mouse. Today, my kids excitedly met me at the door to tell me a moth has hatched, and sure enough, one beautiful luna moth held nicely to its old cocoon to show off its beauty.

we found a Luna Moth!
We found a Luna Moth! it is so so big and beautiful!

Scientific name
Should this article really be under the scientific name? What is the reason for this? I haven't seen any other such article. You might as well change Gray wolf to Canis lupis, and likewise for every other living creature. The title of the article should be something people recognize. How many people will see "Actias luna" and say, "oh, that's a luna moth." This would especially be a problem if the article was in a list somewhere, which it very well could be. If no good reason for this change is proposed, I plan on reverting it in a few days.--Sarabi1701 02:13, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I did it to help standardize things. No, no other article is going to have a problem because I changed all the articles linking to Luna moth to link to Actias luna. All of the articles I created are under the scientific name (in Sphingidae and Saturniidae) including most of them here. Yes, I would changed gray wolf to the scientific name and have the colloquial name redirect, but I'm working in Lepidoptera. I'd prefer if you didn't change it back, it's simply not encyclopedic to not use scientific names when addressing biodiversity. I've also done it to several other pages including Mutillidae and Sialidae without complaint. One of my main beefs is that other things may be under the colloquial name (for example, if gray wolf was also a product or company) and putting gray_wolf_(biology) is much tackier and less rational that Canis lupis. If you have any more questions, please mention them before reverting the change.--Kugamazog 02:52, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, so, I found this section in a Wikiproject that might help us...click here. I know it's just a suggested guidline, but I think it's a good suggestion.  Living organisms that are well known to the general public should be under their common names, so gray wolf should stay gray wolf, as should cat, horse, tiger, and so on.  I will admit, the luna moth is not so well known...so, perhaps it should stay under it's scientific name...I guess I could get used to it :-p  Well, goodluck in your entomology studies! ~ Sarabi1701 16:49, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for the LOVELY article. I was blessed to see one flittering about a light in the SOUTH at night and it was like looking at a fairy. It is one of the most beautiful moments in my life and I will never forget that, in the creatures brief one-week life at this stage, I was fortunate enough to witness its beauty.

I saw my first and only luna moth when one flew into my bathroom at night while I lived in B'ham Alabama. As a transplanted Californian I was at first startled and then delighted. I'd never seen anything so unusual or beautiful. For once I had the humidity to thank. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.119.151.233 (talk) 05:05, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Image question
This image is of what I know as a luna moth. THe grid is s screen, the moth was on the outside, so it is an image of the underside of the insect. I put iot here wioth questions. What luna moth is it, and is a picture such as this right for Wikipedia?

--Dumarest 12:05, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It's definitely a luna moth (if you're in the US I should say) but the picture is rather small and the screen removes any details of the moth so I would say it's not really suitable for the page. Feel free to ask any other questions :) --Kugamazog 21:12, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Agreed - I am in the U.S., Maine. It is not that common to get a view of the underside of a live moth, and given the chance, I took it - screen or not. Did you look at the image itself - the one in Talk is a thumb. But the larger one has the screen more prominent. So, a little sorry, I will erase the image from Wiki. Thanks for your response. --Dumarest 19:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I was recently out in the woods and came across what appears to be a Luna Moth caterpillar, but the markings seem much more colourful than the pictures I find here and elsewhere. Is the colour element a characteristic of a particular phase, environment, etc? Luna Moth Caterpillar picture —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethanhb (talk • contribs) 03:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

 * That is very likely a Cecropia caterpillar (Hyalophora cecropia) --Kugamazog (talk) 21:57, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

The ventral image, left here
Can't give up - one does not often see the ventral of a live moth, so I leave it here.--Dumarest 21:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Conservation status
I believe this is endangered in part of its range. 66.41.66.213 01:55, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

 * According to NatureServe Explorer, Actias luna is not officially endangered anywhere. It is considered secure (N5) in both Canada and the US, and apparently secure (S4) in both Ontario and Québec (US states have not yet ranked A. luna).

 * Threats: The only real concern appears to be the out of control introduced biocontrol Compsilura concinnata (Diptera: Tachinidæ) which has impacted this and other large moths in New England and vicinity. however there is no clear evidence such impacts are spreading, although the fly is, and there has been obvious recovery since the low point in the 1970s. At present luna moth appears unthreatened in about 90% or more of its range and unlike some compsilura victims, luna moth has not been actually extirpated from any significant area. FUNgus guy 20:15, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

hi we saw a female luna moth last nite on our porch. It was beautiful. We live in marlton NJ 7/31/09 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.169.83.9 (talk) 17:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Host plants
List of host plants should include gardenia. I have a magnificent green caterpillar happily munching on my gardenia plant at this moment. It is a beautiful creature now, and I can imagine what a glorious moth "LuLu" will become. 96.253.121.96 (talk) 20:07, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Luna Moth Picture
A Luna Moth flew into my garage last night and I took a great picture of it. Much more colorful than the one posted on the main page. I have no idea how to submit the photo for review. The flickr link is: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4502895790_2fa0568968_o.jpg Thanks, NicoleSquiggly (talk) 20:49, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Size of Luna moths
I've also seen Luna moths nearly as wide and long as the top section of a screen door, in southeastern Virginia. They definitely get bigger than 4.5 inches. 99.36.206.41 (talk) 15:42, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Minor edit to wingspan
Millimeter value added in brackets. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atreyiu (talk • contribs) 23:28, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Bioluminescence
Should add a mention of bioluminescence in this species, with a ref. Article needs better refs and copy-editing, too. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:59, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Nothing in literature search. Wrong species? David notMD (talk) 02:16, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Considering Good Article nomination
For a very popular moth, the article could use massive improvements in content and referencing, and then a nomination for Good Article status. Working on it. David notMD (talk) 13:51, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

The article has a LONG history of people adding and other people deleting mentions of Luna moths in popular culture (including video games). My inclination is to leave all of this except the postage stamp mention out. Such a list could go on and on and on, and add little to the knowledge about the species. However, an opposing point of view can be seen in the article Death's-head hawkmoth, where there is an "In popular culture" section. But please, keep the THE HUNGER GAMES mention out of it. That was a one-liner about a "green-and-silver moth," which clearly means Collins did not even bother to look up a plausible moth description. David notMD (talk) 14:43, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Egg fertilization observation
This from a person who raises and sells Luna moth eggs and cocoons: "Most females remain still for two to three nights. They are conserving energy, but are actively seeking a mate by extending a scent gland from the tip of the abdomen at night. If not mated by end of third evening will stop "calling" and start laying infertile eggs. The eggs do not become fertile at the time of copulation. The eggs get fertilized as they pass through a mix of male sperm, seminal fluids and "glue", stored in the female's body. This immersion/fertilization takes place as the female expels/deposits the eggs. Thus eggs deposited four days before other eggs will usually hatch four days earlier, even though they have come from the same female." David notMD (talk) 16:47, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Research idea
Walnut, hickory and pecan leaves all contain juglone. Luna moth larvae use regurgitated food as a predator deterrent. Effectiveness could be that it contains juglone. Comparison would be to larvae fed white birch or sweet gum. David notMD (talk) 00:53, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Found in India Maharashtra from Kokan Division
Tonight 12th June 2020 (Corona Lockdown) I found a rare species of butterflies named Luna moth I located in India Maharashtra from konkan Division Sindhudurga District Village Gaorai. I have lots of good pictures and videos of it. Kindly contact me for photos and video on below contact details. Sundar Samant Email. SUNDAR000049@gmail.com Mob No. 7666784696 Sundar YS (talk) 16:39, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Idiopathic disease

SWAN
A stub on Syndrome without a name was recently turned into a redirect pointing here, with edit summary "this is not a different concept, but another word for the same thing". I'm not so sure but rather than revert that change I have added a section to this article, explaining the term which would otherwise have left the redirect likely to be deleted at RfD as "not mentioned in target article". I'm sure an explanation of the term ought to be in the encyclopedia somewhere. To a non-medic, SWAN is not the same as idiopathic - the latter, as in "idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis", means "we know what's the matter but not what caused it", while "SWAN" is just a sometimes very sick child with no diagnosis at all. (And desperate parents seeking support). Pam D  17:45, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it ought instead to be a section in Rare disease, which is the target of the redirect Undiagnosed diseases? Pam  D  18:09, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Medical advances and this term
In the section discussing medical advances, there is an implicit assumption that understanding one disease or syndrome reduces the total number of idiopathic diseases. The progression of a single malady from idiopathic to understood is a measure of the advancement of medical science. However, the number of idiopathic conditions might well increase faster than research can understand them, so the number of idiopathic maladies could (and I argue, will) increase with time in spite of the advancement of medical knowledge. Wcmead3 (talk) 00:25, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

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Awareness ribbon

Awareness ribbons are symbols meant to show support or raise consciousness for a cause. Different colors and patterns are associated with different issues.

Yellow ribbons, in the United States, are used to show that a close family member is abroad in military service. In Russia, Belarus and other countries of the former Soviet Union, gold and black striped ribbons are used to celebrate the Allies' victory in World War II (9 May). In Spain since 2017, a yellow ribbon is a symbol of solidarity with the 2017–18 Spanish constitutional crisis in provisional detention.

Of the uses of ribbons to draw awareness to health issues, perhaps the best-known is the pink ribbon for support of those with breast cancer. Other health and social concerns which have adopted colored ribbons include Alzheimer's disease and pancreatic cancer (purple), HIV/AIDS (red), mental health and mental illness (green), suicide prevention (yellow), and brain disorder or disability (silver).

Political use of ribbons include orange ribbons to commemorate the Orange Revolution in Ukraine.

Other ornaments, including flowers (of specific kinds), bracelets, and badges may serve essentially the same purpose of drawing attention to a cause. These include poppies, rosettes and wristbands.

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The first ribbons that were represented as meaningful objects in history were the tokens given to knights during the Middle Ages in Europe. The yellow ribbon came from the Puritan Army during the English Civil War. From there, it spread to the Americas, where the Army of the United States became associated with it. A yellow ribbon was mentioned in a marching song, sung by the military in the United States. In the year 1917 George A. Norton copyrighted the song for the first time. The title of the song was "Round Her Neck She Wears a Yeller Ribbon". In the 1940s the song was rewritten by several musicians.

In the early 1970s, the song "Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree" was released. Based on this song, Penney Laingen, wife of Iran hostage Bruce Laingen, was the first who used the ribbon as an awareness symbol. She tied yellow ribbons around trees to illustrate desire for her husband coming home. Her friends and family members followed the trend. As many individuals were able to see this message, the "ribbon became a medium."

During the 1979–1981 spate of child murders in Atlanta, green lapel ribbons began to be worn to show solidarity. They were of a different form than later awareness ribbons, being typically bow-shaped.

In May 1986, the AIDS Faith Alliance, later to be known as Christian Action on AIDS, held an open conference on AIDS at Notting Hill Gate in London, supported by the Archbishop of Canterbury and other United Kingdom Christian church leaders. Rainbow Ribbons were given to everybody attending. The purpose of Christian Action on AIDS, an official Church of England charity whose founder/chairman was Barnaby Miln, was to get the worldwide Christian churches involved in the crisis that was AIDS. The Christian Action on AIDS folded in 1991.

In 1991, the red ribbon was created by the Visual AIDS Artists Caucus, a New York–based group of artists and AIDS activists. They wished to create a visual symbol to demonstrate compassion for people living with AIDS and their caregivers. The color red was chosen for its "connection to blood and the idea of passion"—both anger and love. During the 1991 Tony Awards, actor Jeremy Irons wore the bright red ribbon pinned on his chest. Though the symbolism of the ribbon was not allowed to be discussed on air, the media and public noticed the eye-catching ribbon, and its popularity grew overnight. The red ribbon was purposefully not copyrighted in the United States, to allow it to be worn and used widely as a symbol in the fight against AIDS. The year 1992 was declared by The New York Times as "The Year of the Ribbon."

Today the red ribbon is an internationally recognized symbol of AIDS awareness and a design icon. It has led the way for many other color ribbons and awareness projects.

The Unicode character standard has a "reminder ribbon" character (🎗) at code point U+1F397. No color is specified for it, and platforms vary in its presentation; it can appear yellow, blue, or red depending on the device or software in which it is viewed.

On social media, some users will add visual effects to their user icons as an "awareness_avatar", in a similar way to wearing a physical ribbon.

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There are ribbon colors that also associate with animals and organizations that work with animals. The Animal Legal Defense Fund fights for the rights of all animals alike while displaying an orange ribbon. Animal abuse awareness is also well known for its use of the purple ribbon.

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Barbie Liberation Organization

The Barbie Liberation Organization, or BLO, are a group of artists and activists involved in culture jamming. Self described as "an underground network of creative activists," the group gained notoriety in 1993 after switching voice boxes in talking G.I. Joes and Barbie dolls. They resurfaced in August 2023, claiming to be the toy giant Mattel in order to announce a new collection of MyCeliaBarbie EcoWarrior Edition compostable dolls, and a corporate wide move to plastic free toy production. The group is currently active.

In their first campaign the BLO performed "surgery" on a reported 300–500 dolls from retail and returned them to shelves, an action they refer to as shopgiving. Thus, Teen Talk Barbie dolls would say phrases such as "Vengeance is mine", while G.I. Joe dolls would say phrases such as "The beach is the place for summer!" Two leading members of the BLO, Jacques Servin and Igor Vamos, would go on to found the culture jamming and political action group The Yes Men.

In the 2023 action, actress Daryl Hannah, posing as a spokesperson for Mattel introduced the collection of biodegradable dolls and announced in a short video that the company would stop using plastic by 2030. This was one of several videos produced by Yellow Dot Studios as part of the BLO's campaign to leverage the publicity surrounding the launch of the Barbie film to shine a light on the costs to society posed by our overwhelming use of plastics.

Motivation and context
The BLO was originally conceived in an effort to question and ultimately change the gender stereotypes American culture is known for after Mattel released a speaking Barbie that said "Math class is tough." It took place in the middle of the culture wars of the 1990s when creative dissent was once again gaining popularity and artists and activists were often trying to conceive of new ways to rebel against cultural stereotypes and powerful forms like network TV. By 1993, criticism of Barbie as a negative gender stereotype for women was commonplace both in academia and popular culture. This may have been partially responsible for the generally positive response of the public to the project—the criticism they were making was familiar and not a controversial point to make during the 1990s. Although their criticism was not new, the creative form of hacking used by the BLO was noteworthy.

Methods
There is a detailed description of the complex "surgery" they performed available on their website, encouraging others to take part in the surgeries themselves. The surgery required some technical skills, tools and precision, but the voice boxes in the dolls were similar enough that the surgery could be reproduced fairly easily in other parts of the country. They outlined the surgery in easy to understand images. After the surgery they would secretly return the toys to shelves, what they call reverse shoplifting.

They also produced a video to explain their point. They used the familiar form of the nightly news message, collaged with cutting edge video art techniques to get their point across. Viewers would be unable to tell exactly what was news and what was made up, they made some points through exaggerations and some through the use of actual news footage. They recruited two children, one from San Diego, California, and one from Albany, New York, to showcase the modified toys to the news. Additionally, the BLO used their extra stock of modified dolls to go to stores that were near news stations that were covering the story, planted a modified doll on the shelf, and waited for the journalists to purchase the BLO's toy; this would show the reach and a seemingly large scale operation. Having children already prepped to be interviewed and planning ahead to gain media coverage helped the BLO's image and reach.

The media responded with coverage, but no legal issues were ever seriously raised. Hasbro and Mattel, the makers of the dolls brushed off the action with little fuss, although one person was outraged with the "terrorist attacks" directed at children.

Debate
Because of the nature of culture jamming, it is hard to tell how many Barbies and G.I. Joes were actually switched, and how much of the media attention was orchestrated by the group. The artist Igor Vamos, known for acts of media intervention, intentionally fed information to the media to report more cases of the switched identity surgeries. Although most sources suggest from 300–500 toys were hacked, other reports up to 3,000 across the country and in other countries like Canada, France and England. Others assert that only 12 toys were actually switched and the rest was cleverly arranged media hype by Vamos and his associates. This perspective indicates that the project was also a critique of the nature of the television and media culture of the 1990s, which led to other media interventions by Vamos, collaborators, and other groups in the coming years.

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I would like to know if anyone knows how the children of a selkie and a human cross woulld look llike or even how and when they transform to their selkie form? If you know anything i would like t know i would like to write a fantasy story about this subject if anyone can sujest a good book on the subject. Please contact me at aggieboy9@aol.com

 * apparently they are human, however they might also be able to become selkies themselves. The story teller, Duncan Williamson has some stories which cover this (79.190.69.142 (talk) 21:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC))
 * The traditional song "The Maiden and the Selkie" a.k.a "The Selkie's bride" or "the selkie and the fisherman's daughter" considers an apparently human woman who wants to marry a selkie, but is unable to return to the sea with him and knows he cannot bear to be on land for long. The couple visit her grandmother - a wisewoman who lives by the sea - who says she can't help but that her mother had had a sealskin coat that she buried beneath a tree and had told her that anyone who put it on would become a selkie.  Once the girl found this coat, dug it up and wore it she became a selkie woman and was able to marry her love.  This would imply that the girl's great grandmother had been a selkie herself and had surrendered her shifting ability to marry on land.  That aside, many selkie legends end with some half-breed children left on land (usually when their selkie mother returns to sea) and implies they were absorbed into the general population.  62.196.17.194 (talk) 10:43, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * it's not traditional - according to Heather Dale's website . It's one of "14 new songs inspired by the Middle Ages and Renaissance". Richerman    (talk) 16:45, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Was there a phocomelia outbreak in Orkney or something? --Damian Yerrick 02:20, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

How has the Orcadian origin for the selkie folklore been definately established? What's the etymology of the word? The origin described on the Orkneyjar website seems plausible enough. Lianachan 13:11, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

A. E. Van Vogt wrote a science fiction work called 'the silkie', I recall.

Roane
Are these the same mythological creatures known also as Roane? If so, perhaps the article should mention it? --Bardcom (talk) 09:29, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, afaik, it would be nice to have a ref ClemMcGann (talk) 12:37, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Should we have 'Roane' in this article. Though selkies and Roane are seal-folk, selkies or silkies do not appear in their traditional ballads, only Roane'. - ExplorianCaptain — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.131.252.243 (talk) 17:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I believe we should. Numerous sources discuss the Celtic seal people and it's just two words for the same thing.  I can't find any sources that say they're different - have you found any?  --HighKing (talk) 21:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

 * That's just shoddy anglo spelling of Gaelic ròn, meaning a seal. Akerbeltz (talk) 11:29, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Songs and Literature
There is a well known song "The Selkie of Sule Skerry. Also, the Scottish storyteller Duncan Williamson wrote a number of books with selkie stories in them (79.190.69.142 (talk) 21:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC))

Should there be a mention of the selkies of Harry Potter stories? Potter lore is unclear on the subject. All it really says is that one of the different types of merfolk is the selkies of Scotland, and so people tend to assume that the ugly merfolk in the Black Lake, since it's located in Scotland, are selkies, though they only ever refer to them in the book as merfolk. --76.203.215.37 (talk) 02:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

In Laurell K. Hamiltion's novel "A Kiss of Shadows" (the first in the Merry Gentry series) one of the characters is a selkie named Roane Finn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.236.110.130 (talk) 18:51, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Silly-long lists
Do the pop culture lists add anything? Or should they be removed? -134.48.112.66 (talk) 19:21, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Finns
By "Finns", do you mean people from Finland, or the Saami people? I think this should be clarified in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.160.234.48 (talk) 14:03, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

 * I'd assumed it meant people from Finland. Why should it mean the Saami people - were they called Finns too? Richerman (talk) 14:48, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

 * They are a different people
 * Selkies are not mentioned in the Finnic mythology article ClemMcGann (talk) 15:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

 * Yes, they are also called finns. Excerpt from: Sami people "Another term for Sámi used locally in Hedmark, Trøndelag and Northern Norway is Finn, whereas local Finnish speakers are called kvæn. “Finn” seems to have been in much wider use in ancient times, judging from the names Fenni and
 * Phinnoi in classical Roman and Greek works."I'm assuming it meant the sea sami, because they used seal skin as garments (I have not heard about it being traditional for Finnish people to wear seal skin garments). But that is just mere speculation, and I still think this should be clarifieid. I'm asking because I found this:Talk:Sami people 79.160.234.48 (talk)

 * To answer the first point above, if the Finns were the the ones who were mistaken for selkies they wouldn't be likely to have them in their mythology. On the other point I doubt if the original source says anything about who the Finns were specifically. I've not seen it but in some notes I read on the song "The great silkie of Sule Skerry" It did mention Finns in sealskin kayaks, but wasn't more specific than that. Richerman (talk) 15:18, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

 * The term "finn" was often used to refer to Saami by Norwegians. The Finnish do not refer to themselves as "Finns" in Finnish. The term "Fenni" comes from Roman texts, I believe. See wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_people#Etymologies . Another point of interest is that some of the earliest sightings of "Finnmen" in canoes came around a time when there was religious persecution of saami in Norway and sweden. Much of this was based around stamping out shamanism, destroying their shamanic drums etc. This would fit nicely with ideas of magic etc(79.190.69.142 (talk) 18:09, 25 June 2011 (UTC))

 * Very unlikely, because Sami and Suomi (?) - "Lapplanders" and "Finnish people" - were farmers, hunters and reindeer nomads, not fishermen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.188.17.183 (talk) 21:05, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Traditional Shamanic themes.
I have several fairytale and folklore paperbacks at home, and find this same theme of an animal shedding its pelt and becoming a human, usually a female, in Inuit, Siberic and Japanese folklore. So I guess this theme is way older than for instance the Armada, as the article states. Anyone with more knowledge about this??--Satrughna (talk) 22:53, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

In a book I've read called a true spell and a dangerous,There are selkie-like Wolf-People living in a forest.A girl called Ruth finds them and puts on a wolfskin,Managing to turn herself into a Wolf-Person.Weird,Relative and un-relative at the same person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.8.240.58 (talk) 18:13, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Quite a lot of similar stories are mentioned here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_maiden

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShapeshiftingLover

 * Donning and doffing of an animal skin was a fairly traditional method of shapeshifting - various forms were identified, not least the loup-garou type of werewolf which transformed in this manner. 62.196.17.194 (talk) 10:37, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Norse mythology
In Húsdrápa, there's a section where the gods Heimdallr and Loki fight a ferocious battle in the shape of seals. Heimdallr is a vanr, and Loki is part jötunn, and these races are usually depicted as being closer to magic powers than the æsir. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 13:38, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Song of the Sea (animated film)
There's a lovely Irish film "Song of the Sea" (2014) which features and celebrates selkie folklore. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1865505/?ref_=nv_sr_1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.98.255 (talk) 00:47, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Selkies: real or myth?
Ancient peoples of Scotland believed they existed, while today we can't confirm their existence without actual evidence of a Selkie presence. The Selkies lived in northern parts of Scotland, the Orkney and Shetland islands, maybe the Faroe Islands, and were "spotted" in Denmark, the Low countries (Netherlands), northwest Germany, and Scandinavia (Norway's coast). There were non-Indo European peoples in Great Britain and Ireland before the arrival of Indo-Europeans like the Celts as legends, mythology and folklore of these peoples are evidently reported. 12.218.47.124 (talk) 20:05, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Peter Kagan
At the end of the section "Faroese legends", there is this paragraph:
 * Peter Kagan and the Wind by Gordon Bok tells of the fisherman Kagan who married a seal-woman. Against his wife's wishes he set sail dangerously late in the year, and was trapped battling a terrible storm, unable to return home. His wife shifted to her seal form and saved him, even though this meant she could never return to her human body and hence her happy home.

At best, it fails to make it clear why it is in that place; I suppose it is in fact misplaced. It might fit in the sections "Modern treatments" or "In popular culture". Also, it fails to make clear what the title refers to - novel, short story, song, album, webpage, all of the above?--Nø (talk) 13:39, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

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I'm trying to be bold in tidying up these categories. I feel that Category:Alternative musical groups and Category:American musical groups were inappropriate, since the pages contained in this category are not musical groups. These are simply pages relating to The Smashing Pumpkins. Since the Pumpkins played alternative rock, I think this category should be a sub-category of Category:Alternative music.

I know there's no consensus for this structure instead of the previous categorization. I'm just trying to figure out something that makes more sense.

If there were a Category:Alternative rock I'd use it instead of Category:Alternative music.

--Dbenbenn 02:19, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

See Categorisation FAQ, which says that "Topic categories are unlikely to be subcategories of list categories." The various Musical Groups categories are list categories, whereas Category:Smashing Pumpkins is a topic category. --Dbenbenn 02:42, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * A list category is a category made up of lists, with "List of..." in the title. This category is not a list; it is a legit article to be a subcategory of its previous categories. -- LGagnon 03:20, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your reply, but at the moment I disagree. See Categorisation FAQ.  In particular, "the goal is that browsing downwards from a list parent category, e.g. Category:Cities, should only arrive at articles that are cities, e.g. London, and not related articles e.g. History of London."  --Dbenbenn 03:33, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Also see Categorisation FAQ. --Dbenbenn 03:43, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * And Categorization --Dbenbenn 03:45, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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Arithmetic underflow

The term arithmetic underflow (also floating point underflow, or just underflow) is a condition in a computer program where the result of a calculation is a number of more precise absolute value than the computer can actually represent in memory on its central processing unit (CPU).

Arithmetic underflow can occur when the true result of a floating point operation is smaller in magnitude (that is, closer to zero) than the smallest value representable as a normal floating point number in the target datatype. Underflow can in part be regarded as negative overflow of the exponent of the floating point value. For example, if the exponent part can represent values from −128 to 127, then a result with a value less than −128 may cause underflow.

For integers, the term "integer underflow" typically refers to a special kind of integer overflow or integer wraparound condition whereby the result of subtraction would result in a value less than the minimum allowed for a given integer type, i.e. the ideal result was closer to negative infinity than the output type's representable value closest to negative infinity.

Underflow gap
The interval between − zero and fminN, where fminN is the smallest positive normal floating point value, is called the underflow gap. This is because the size of this interval is many orders of magnitude larger than the distance between adjacent normal floating point values just outside the gap. For instance, if the floating point datatype can represent 20 bits, the underflow gap is 221 times larger than the absolute distance between adjacent floating point values just outside the gap.

In older designs, the underflow gap had just one usable value, zero. When an underflow occurred, the true result was replaced by zero (either directly by the hardware, or by system software handling the primary underflow condition). This replacement is called "flush to zero".

The 1984 edition of IEEE 754 introduced subnormal numbers. The subnormal numbers (including zero) fill the underflow gap with values where the absolute distance between adjacent values is the same as for adjacent values just outside the underflow gap. This enables "gradual underflow", where a nearest subnormal value is used, just as a nearest normal value is used when possible. Even when using gradual underflow, the nearest value may be zero.

The absolute distance between adjacent floating point values just outside the gap is called the machine epsilon, typically characterized by the largest value whose sum with the value 1 will result in the answer with value 1 in that floating point scheme. This can be written as $$fl(1+\epsilon) = fl(1)$$, where $$fl$$ is a function which converts the real value into the floating point representation. While the machine epsilon is not to be confused with the underflow level (assuming subnormal numbers), it is closely related. The machine epsilon is dependent on the number of bits which make up the significand, whereas the underflow level depends on the number of digits which make up the exponent field. In most floating point systems, the underflow level is smaller than the machine epsilon.

Handling of underflow
The occurrence of an underflow may set a ("sticky") status bit, raise an exception, at the hardware level generate an interrupt, or may cause some combination of these effects.

As specified in IEEE 754, the underflow condition is only signaled if there is also a loss of precision. Typically this is determined as the final result being inexact. However, if the user is trapping on underflow, this may happen regardless of consideration for loss of precision. The default handling in IEEE 754 for underflow (as well as other exceptions) is to record as a floating point status that underflow has occurred. This is specified for the application-programming level, but often also interpreted as how to handle it at the hardware level.

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Don't delete this. Why not keep it around? It's not harming you. If you don't like it, don't read it.
 * Please sign your comments with writing --~ to the end. Also try to fill in the edit summary. Thanks. The article is unencyclopedic in the current state. Maybe if you fix it... --kooo 02:22, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)
 * Currently attempting to make it more "encyclopedic" ...it takes a bit of time. --Jameth 02:28, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Guess it doesn't matter at this point because everyone seems to have made up their minds. Oh well. I'll just post this thing elsewhere. -Jameth 02:36, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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British Rail Class 419

The British Rail Class 419 Motor Luggage Vans (or MLV) were battery electric multiple unit cars built from 1959-61 by BR at Eastleigh Works.

Description
Each MLV unit is essentially a motorised BG carriage, with a driver's position at each end. Each vehicle has two luggage compartments and a guard's compartment.

Ten of these units were built for the boat trains from London Victoria to Dover and Folkestone. Units were originally numbered in the range 68001-68010, but were classified Class 419 under the TOPS system and were then renumbered 419001-419010, the numbers actually carried on the units in service reduced to 9001-9010, omitting the first two digits.

The units were able to work alone, hauling a limited load, or work in multiple with other EP-type rolling stock, usually in conjunction with Class 410 and Class 411. The units were also fitted with batteries to allow them to operate over the short-distance of non-electrified quayside lines at Dover and Folkestone. The batteries allowed the units to be used at low-speed for 20–30 minutes, and could be recharged when the unit was taking power from 750 V DC third-rail.

By 1963, it was discovered that one luggage carriage was insufficient for the boat train service. Some trains were operated with paired MLVs, which resulted in a shortage of the vehicles. To overcome the problem, six Trailer Luggage Vans (TLV) were introduced in 1968 and kept in use alongside the MLVs until 1975. These were numbered 68201-68206 as Class 499 and were conventional BG carriages, except for having their gangway ends sealed from use.

The MLVs were withdrawn from traffic in 1991-92, with the closure of Dover Western Docks railway station and the end of the boat train services.

Prototype
The design of the units was based on an earlier vehicle, numbered 68000, which was used as a parcels van on the Tyneside DC electrified network. When the South Tyneside network was de-electrified in 1967, the unit was initially transferred for use on the Southport to Liverpool electric line before being withdrawn.

Departmental service
After withdrawal from normal service, the entire fleet was transferred to departmental service as Class 931 tractor units. Unit 9006 was damaged in an accident at Ramsgate in 1994, resulting in it being withdrawn and subsequently scrapped. Units 9003 and 9009 were specially repainted in BR Blue and LSE "Jaffa Cake" liveries, by staff at Strawberry Hill depot, to commemorate the closure of the depot in 1995.

Most of the units were withdrawn again in 1997. They were kept at Bournemouth depot, while they were waiting for disposal. While there, units 9001 and 9002 stayed in use as depot shunters. Unit 9001 was retired in 1998, and subsequently preserved. Unit 9002 was kept by South West Trains until 2004, when former 4CEP unit 1512 replaced it.

Preservation
All but two of the units have been preserved. One unit was scrapped after an accident whilst in service, and the other was scrapped in preservation.

The first unit to be preserved was first-built no. 9001, which was saved in 1998 after a campaign by the EPB Preservation Group. It was bought to power the group's preserved 2EPB unit, no. 5759. The units dumped at Bournemouth were put out to tender in 1999, and were bought mainly for use as storage vehicles. Their ability to move under battery-power has also allowed limited passenger use. The final unit to be saved was no. 9002, which has now been stored at Southall. After extensive overhaul at Southall 9002 ventured back onto the main line on 28 August 2015 when it was hauled by Battle Of Britain Class 34067 Tangmere to Ramsgate Depot for an open day, it returned a day later but has not been out since. The table below gives details of the current locations and fates of the Class 419 units.

Models
A OO gauge model of the Class 419 MLV has been produced by Bachmann Branchline.

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