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Merger
I purpose merger of Golden Bails Award with this article. As the source article does not have much information. Vigyani (talk) 09:47, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

 * I agree, the Golden Bails Award is directly related to umpiring, it should just become a section near to the bottom of the page. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:22, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Support merger I've umpired baseball, softball, football, basketball, and soccer. No award we received would ever qualify for its own article. That would be putting it on a par w the Cy Young Award, or the Lombardi Trophy. Unless there's some divine status acquired by receiving this award, its objective importance is far below that of a revered award. Veryproicelandic (talk) 02:46, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 * Can we get this merger done so at least the tag at the top of the article can be removed..? Argovian (talk) 12:54, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ at last. All the relevant detail is in the 'Records' section – I'll leave it to somebody else to tidy it up, it needs grammar and WP:OVERLINK checking and better citation sources. Richard3120 (talk) 03:40, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Level of Detail
I'd be interested to know what others feel should be the level of detail in this page. There is currently very little reference to the Laws of Cricket, and I think this maybe ought to be changed. I'm very happy to add references but don't what the article to become too technical. Another thought is who do we want this page to appeal to primarily. As a Cricket Upire myself I know there are very little online resources for information, and interpretation, on the laws of cricket. Would anybody out there be interested in a page analysing each law bit by bit, and if so shoudl that be under-taken on another page, specifically on the Laws of Cricket? Wisden17

 * There is a separate article on the Laws of Cricket. I think that the Umpire article should provide a brief overview of the role (ie, match manager), qualities of an umpire, status under Spirit of Cricket, positioning, concentration, signals (but brief), pathways, and links to relevant websites of national cricketing bodies and/or umpiring contacts.  (Perhaps I'll contribute something based on my experiences as an umpire and umpires' adviser, when/of I get time).  Perhaps something about differences between cricket umpires and umpires in other sports could be included.  The lists of Test umpires and "famous" umpires are a joke - there is a much more complete list at List of Test umpires and the duplication is unnecessary. MulgaBill 23:16, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I think the lists on the page are bit of a waste of space. I realised after I posted the first message that there is a separate page on the Laws of Cricket, although that could do with some major work on it as well. I like your idea about pathways for umpires (would be interesting to do a comparison between countries), and of the fieldcraft of umpires. I'll add some stuff this week on the qualities of umpires and on positiong etc.. The differences between umpires in other sports may be an interesting section, although would another page not be better. The umpire page could have a comparison section added to it.--Wisden17 14:17, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

 * The lists are gone. Be bold! -dmmaus 22:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks dmmaus for removing the lists. I look forward to your additional stuff Wisden17 and I'm happy to add some stuff, and review your contributions - when I've finished my biogs of Aussie umps. MulgaBill 05:01, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I've reverted the bit about one umpire standing opposite the non-strikers end. Fairly sure the wicket keeper stands there. And there was already a bit about sometines having more than 2 umpires. Kevin 10:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

link to ICC Elite umpire panel?
Should there be a link to the ICC Elite umpire panel, at least in the "see also" section?--Alexio 10:57, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Disabled and young umpires
I have reversed Moondyne's deletions, because I think it is relevant to make the point that disability and age need not be barriers to umpiring. I have to admit a bias - I have been the mentor to the lad with cerebral palsy, who's now in his fifth year in our country competition. However, I have deleted a specific name, which is certainly not relevant. MulgaBill 19:15, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

'The 'out' signal is the only signal that the scorer does not have to acknowledge.'
Who created this line? It is quite clear that scorers need to acknowledge every signal made by an umpire, including the dismissal. If the scorers didn't follow this, then the scorebook would look very bare. Anyone else agree with me? Joshthomson (talk) 11:17, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * From the current Law 3.14 - "When the ball is dead, the bowler’s end umpire shall repeat the signals above, with the exception of the signal for Out, to the scorers." Hack (talk) 08:32, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I have edited the article to say "The 'out' signal is the only signal that if indicated by the striker's end umpire, does not require confirmation by the bowler’s end umpire." The law does not really say the scorer does not need to acknowledge. -- Paddu (talk) 09:34, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * As a scorer (in England) I can categorically state that we neither do, nor are meant to, acknowledge Out from the umpire. I don't think Joshthomson has a clue about scoring frankly. Argovian (talk) 00:01, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * To explain further, what you have to bear in mind (and give Law 3.14 a thorough read after reading this comment of mine) is that there is a difference between a signal made by an umpire and a signal to the scorers by an umpire. There is no signal made to the scorers for Out; and therefore there is nothing to acknowledge by the scorers (see: Law 3.14 b). I intend to improve/expand the scoring article soon. Argovian (talk) 10:38, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

What is basic technology?
Apart from arguably being oxymoronic? Does this mean without Hawk-eye, television replays or what other level of 'help'? Bevo74 (talk) 16:59, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

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Seventh or eighth round? This article says 7th, whilst the Roberto Duran one says 8th. 131.202.114.171 00:52, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

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1972 West German federal election

Federal elections were held in West Germany on 19 November 1972 to elect the members of the 7th Bundestag. In the first snap elections since the resumption of democratic elections in 1949, the Social Democratic Party became the largest party in parliament for the first time since 1930, winning 230 of the 496 seats. The coalition with the Free Democratic Party was resumed.

Campaign
The Social-liberal coalition of SPD and FDP had lost its majority after several Bundestag MPs (like former FDP ministers Erich Mende and Heinz Starke or SPD partisan Herbert Hupka) had left their party and become members of the CDU/CSU opposition to protest against Chancellor Willy Brandt's Neue Ostpolitik, especially against the de facto recognition of the Oder-Neisse line by the 1970 Treaty of Warsaw. On 27 April 1972 the opposition had tried to have CDU leader Rainer Barzel elected new chancellor in a motion of no confidence, but Barzel surprisingly missed the majority in the Bundestag by two votes. Rumours that at least one member of CDU/CSU faction had been paid by the East German Stasi intelligence service were confirmed by Markus Wolf, former head of the Hauptverwaltung Aufklärung, in 1997. Nevertheless, the following budget debates revealed that the government's majority was lost and only the upcoming organisation of the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich delayed the arrangement of new elections. On 22 September 1972 Chancellor Brandt deliberately lost a vote of confidence, allowing President Gustav Heinemann to dissolve the Bundestag the next day.

In the tense campaign, the CDU/CSU attacked Brandt as being too lenient towards Eastern Europe and having the wrong ideas on the economy. SPD and FDP benefited from the enormous personal popularity of the chancellor, laureate of the 1971 Nobel Peace Prize. He gained the support by numerous celebrities of the West German culture and media scene (e.g. Günter Grass), expressed by the slogan Willy wählen! ("Vote for Willy!").

Results
Voter turnout was 91.1%, the highest ever since 1949. In 1970 the voting age had been lowered from 21 to 18.

The SPD celebrated their best result ever, representing the largest faction in the German parliament for the first time since the 1930 Reichstag elections. It enabled the party to nominate Annemarie Renger for President of the Bundestag; she was the first Social Democrat and also the first woman to hold this office.

Post-election
On 14 December 1972 the Bundestag MPs of the social-liberal coalition re-elected Willy Brandt chancellor. His Cabinet Brandt II returned to government the next day, again with FDP chairman Walter Scheel as vice-chancellor and foreign minister. Defeated Rainer Barzel resigned as CDU chairman on 9 May 1973; he was succeeded by Helmut Kohl.

On 7 May 1974, Brandt would resign in the course of the Guillaume Affair, after one of his personal aides had been unmasked as a Stasi agent. The coalition continued under his party fellow Helmut Schmidt, while Brandt remained SPD chairman until 1987.

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Philippe Gigantès

Philippe Deane Gigantès (August 16, 1923 – December 9, 2004) was a veteran of the Second World War, journalist, war correspondent, POW of the Korean War, author, television commentator, Greek minister of culture, and Canadian senator.

War and journalism
Gigantès served in the British Royal Navy during the Second World War. After the war, he became a journalist, working for the London Observer, in Greece, North Africa, and South Asia, from 1946 to 1961.

Gigantès covered the Korean War as the war correspondent from International News Service.

Whilst covering the Korean War he was taken prisoner, and spent 33 months in a North Korean prison camp. During this time he was interned with George Blake. After his release he wrote the book I was a Captive in Korea and returned to his career in journalism. He became the Washington correspondent for the London Observer and The Globe and Mail.

From 1965 to the 1970s, he was a journalist in Canada. During the 1970s he was speech writer and top aide to Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.

Greek Minister of Culture
He worked as a United Nations official. In 1964 he was appointed to the post of associate Greek Minister of Culture, serving until 1965. He later resumed his career in the media as a television commentator from 1965 to 1970s.

Academic career and Canadian civil servant
From 1965 to 1968 completed his Bachelor of Arts, Master and PhD at the University of Toronto.

After his graduation he served as Dean of Arts at Bishop's University and Dean of Arts and Science at University of Lethbridge.

In the 1970s he served with the Official Languages Commission and the Treasury Board.

Canadian Senator
In 1980 he ran for MP in the Canadian riding of Broadview-Greenwood, but was defeated by Bob Rae. In 1984 while working as an editorialist at the Montreal Gazette he was appointed to the Senate of Canada by Pierre Trudeau, for whom he had worked between 1978 and 1980 as a researcher then head of the Liberal Caucus Research Office. He served in the Senate until his 75th birthday in 1998.

While in the Senate he served on many committees but was particularly proud of his work as chair of an adhoc committee on the future of work. His report of this work was published by Parliament under the title Only Work Works and in French under the title "Il n'y a que le Travail qui Vaille.

Author
He was the author of 15 books including I Should Have Died, Is the Free Trade Deal Really for You? (1988) and Power and Greed: A Short History of the World (2002).

In his book Nice Work: The Continuing Scandal of Canada's Senate, journalist and author Claire Hoy wrote that Gigantes, during a filibuster in the Senate, read one of his books into the record; another senator suggested that he did this to get the work translated into French for free by parliamentary staff responsible for Hansard.

Death
Gigantès died on December 9, 2004, of prostate cancer in Montreal. He left behind his wife Sylvie, three daughters Eleni, Claire and Eve Marie, two grandsons and a granddaughter. His ashes were scattered in the waters of the Mediterranean Sea near Kefalonia, Greece.

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Violadores del Verso

Violadores del Verso (Lyrical Molesters or Verse Rapists), formerly also known as Doble V, are a rap music group from Spain.

History
Violadores del Verso was started in 1997 in Zaragoza, Spain by David Gilaberte (Lírico), Sergio Rodriguez (Sho-Hai/Hate), Rubén Cuevas (R de Rumba) and brothers Javier (Kase.O) and Sergio Ibarra (Brutal).

They released their first LP Genios in 1999. In 2001 they released two further albums as Doble V, a name they used until asked to desist to avoid association with Doble V whisky, a trademark owned by the Pernod Ricard drinks concern. In 2006, they released their fourth LP Vivir para contarlo, which went gold after ten days. In 2007 the group won the regional award for Spain in the MTV Europe Music Awards.

The group has been on hiatus since 2010 while its members pursue solo projects. The group's last concert before the pause was aired in August 2011 as a 3D transmission by national TV broadcaster Televisión Española (TVE), to pilot of the 3D technology involved.

In 2022, the group rejoined to record the track Únicos that appeared on Sho-Hai's solo album Polvo.

Discography

 * Violadores del verso (Bufank Records, 1997)
 * Violadores del verso (EP) (Avoid Records, 1998)
 * Violadores del Verso presentan a Kase-O en: Mierda (Maxi) (Avoid Records, 1998)
 * Genios (LP) (Avoid, 1999)
 * Atrás (Maxi) (Rap Solo, 2001)
 * Violadores del Verso + Kase-O Mierda (Reissue, (Boa Music, 2001)
 * Vicios y Virtudes (LP) (Rap Solo/Boa Music, 2001)
 * Tú eres alguien/Bombo clap (live DVD) (Rap Solo/Boa Music, 2002)
 * Vivir para contarlo / Haciendo lo nuestro (Maxi) (Rap Solo/Boa Music, 2006)
 * Gira 06/07 Presente (LP/DVD) (Rap Solo/Boa Music, 2007)

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CBFT-DT

CBFT-DT (channel 2) is a television station in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, serving as the flagship station of the French-language service of Ici Radio-Canada Télé. It is owned and operated by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (known in French as Société Radio-Canada) alongside CBC Television outlet CBMT-DT (channel 6). The two stations share studios at Maison Radio-Canada on René Lévesque Boulevard East in Downtown Montreal; CBFT-DT's transmitter is located atop Mount Royal.

History
CBFT was the first permanent television station in Canada (an experimental station, VE9EC, had been on the air in Montreal from 1931 to 1935). It launched on September 6, 1952, at 4 p.m., beating CBLT in Toronto by two days. The station went on the air with the movie Aladdin and His Lamp, followed by a cartoon, and then a French film, a news segment and a bilingual variety show. The station aired programming in both French (60 percent) and English (40 percent), a practice common for many stations in Quebec at the time.

This continued until January 10, 1954, when CBMT was launched on VHF channel 6. At that time, all English programming moved to CBMT, while CBFT became a purely French-language station as the flagship of the Télévision de Radio-Canada network for francophone viewers. CBMT's sign-on was hastened by the planned launch of television stations across the border in Burlington, Vermont, and Plattsburgh, New York.

Prior to the digital transition, CBFT operated a translator network that stretched across most of Quebec, parts of Ontario, and most of northern Canada (Northwest Territories and Nunavut). Due to a lack of sources for alternative programming, most Radio-Canada stations are effectively semi-satellites of CBFT. For the most part, their schedules are largely identical to those of CBFT, other than commercials and regional news. This was the case for privately owned Radio-Canada affiliates before the last such station closed in 2021.

Analogue-to-digital conversion
CBFT began broadcasting its digital signal on March 22, 2005. On August 31, 2011, when Canadian television stations in CRTC-designated mandatory markets transitioned from analogue to digital broadcasts, the station's digital signal remained on UHF channel 19, using virtual channel 2.

Former rebroadcasters
CBFT had over 30 analogue television rebroadcasters throughout rural Quebec and Labrador. Due to federal funding reductions to the CBC, in April 2012, the CBC responded with substantial budget cuts, which included shutting down CBC's and Radio-Canada's remaining analogue transmitters on July 31, 2012. None of CBC or Radio-Canada's rebroadcasters were converted to digital.

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Nicolas Bourriaud

Nicolas Bourriaud (born 1965) is a French curator and art critic, who has curated a great number of exhibitions and biennials all over the world.

Career
Bourriaud was the Paris correspondent for Flash Art (1987–1995) and the founder and director of the contemporary art magazine Documents sur l'art (1992–2000). He was also one of the 13 co-curators of the “Aperto” section of the 1993 Venice Biennale.

With Jérôme Sans, Bourriaud cofounded the Palais de Tokyo in Paris, where he served as codirector from 1999 to 2006. During his time at Palais de Tokyo, he also served on the team behind the first and second editions of the Moscow Biennial, in 2005 and 2007, respectively.

Bourriaud was the Gulbenkian curator of contemporary art from 2007 to 2010 at Tate Britain in London. In 2009 he curated the fourth Tate Triennial, titled Altermodern.

École Nationale Supérieure des Beaux-Arts, 2007–2010
Bourriaud was the Director of the École Nationale Supérieure des Beaux-Arts, an art school in Paris, France, from 2011 to 2015. During his time in office, he organized the 2011 edition of the Athens Biennale, the 2014 edition of the Taipei Biennial, and the 2015 edition of the Kaunas Biennial. In 2014, he was part of the selection committee that chose Giuseppe Penone, Nedko Solakov and Liam Gillick as the winners of the European Central Bank’s international competition for site-specific artworks at its new premises. By 2015, he was dismissed from his post by the city, for “reasons related to a change of direction,” according to a Facebook status posted by Bourriaud at the time.)

MO.CO., 2015–2021
In 2015, Bourriaud was appointed director of the La Panacée art centre (a.k.a. MO.CO.PANACÉE) and the director of the Contemporary Art Center of Montpellier, France (aka MO.CO.); In 2018, he joined a group of arts professionals — among them the artists Christian Boltanski and Jean-Luc Moulène – in signing an open letter published by the newspaper Libération, calling on the city of Paris to abandon the installation of Bouquet of Tulips by Jeff Koons. By 2021, he was ousted as director of MO.CO. after months of growing political tensions between Bourriaud and the city’s mayor, Michaël Delafosse.

Writing
Bourriaud is best known among English speakers for his publications Relational Aesthetics (1998/English version 2002), Postproduction (2001), and The Exform (2015/ English version 2016). Relational Aesthetics in particular has come to be seen as a defining text for a wide variety of art produced by a generation who came to prominence in Europe in the early 1990s. Bourriaud coined the term in 1995, in a text for the catalogue of the exhibition Traffic that was shown at the CAPC contemporary art museum in Bordeaux.

In Postproduction (2001), Bourriaud relates deejaying to contemporary art. Radicant (2009) aims to define the emergence of the first global modernity, based on translation and nomadic forms, against the postmodern aesthetics based on identities. In The Exform (2016), Bourriaud examines the dynamics of ideology, specifically as it was developed in the work of Louis Althusser, to account for distinctions between the productive and unproductive, product and waste, and the included and excluded in their relation to society and art production.

Books

 * Formes de vie. L’art moderne et l’invention de soi. Paris: Editions Denoël, 1999. ISBN 2-207-25501-8
 * Relational Aesthetics. Paris: Presses du réel, 2002. ISBN 2-84066-060-1
 * Postproduction: Culture as Screenplay: How Art Reprograms the World. New York: Lukas & Sternberg, 2002. ISBN 0-9711193-0-9. Translated by Jeanine Herman.
 * Touch: Relational Art from the 1990s to Now. San Francisco: San Francisco Art Institute, 2002.
 * Playlist. Paris: Palais de Tokyo: Editions cercle d'art, 2004. ISBN 2-7022-0736-7
 * The Radicant , Sternberg Press, 2009. ISBN 978-1-933128-42-9. Translated by James Gussen and Lili Porten.
 * Radikant. Berlin: Merve, 2009. ISBN 978-3-88396-251-1
 * Altermodern. Tate, 2009. ISBN 978-1-85437-817-0
 * La Exforma. Buenos Aires: Adriana Hidalgo Editora, 2015. ISBN 9789873793165
 * The Exform. Brooklyn, NY: Verso, 2016. ISBN 9781784783808

Curated exhibitions

 * Courts Métrages Immobiles, Venice Biennale, 1990
 * Aperto '93, Venice Biennale, 1993
 * Commerce, Espace St Nicolas, Paris, 1994
 * Traffic, Capc Bordeaux, 1996
 * Joint Ventures, Basilico Gallery, New York, 1996
 * Le Capital, CRAC Sète, 1999
 * Contacts, Kunsthalle Fri-Art, Fribourg, Switzerland, 2000
 * Négociations, CRAC, Sète, 2000
 * Touch, San Francisco Art Institute, 2002
 * GNS (Global Navigation System), Palais de Tokyo, Paris, 2003
 * Playlist, Palais de Tokyo, Paris, 2004
 * Notre Histoire, Palais de Tokyo, Paris, 2006
 * Moscow Biennale, 2005 and 2007 (with Backstein, Boubnova, Birnbaum, Obrist, Martinez)
 * Estratos, Murcia, 2008.
 * The Tate Triennial 2009: Altermodern, Tate Britain, London, 2009
 * Athens Biennial 2011 : Monodrome.
 * The Angel of history, Palais des Beaux-arts, Paris, 2013.
 * Cookbook, Palais des Beaux-arts, Paris, 2013.
 * Taipei Biennial 2014, The Great acceleration.
 * Kaunas Biennial 2015, Threads : a fantasmagoria about distance.

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This is kind of a minor point, but in the 'Backdrafts and flashovers' section I don't think the distinction should be made between temperature change and chemical change because temperature itself can be considered a chemical characteristic. Maybe 'compostional change' would be more accurate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.40.132 (talk) 15:07, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

I found some great images here: [] but I don't know if its free or not. You can email the webmaster if you like.--Ewok Slayer 03:57, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

"You go - we go" quote was in Backdraft (1991) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.77.148.137 (talk) 06:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Try using this: http://www.contraincendioonline.com/images/BACKDRAFT-STAFFS.jpg

FYI: A smoke explosion and backdraft are two, similar yet, separate fire-related phenomenon. A backdraft occurs when oxygen is introduced to a fire which in a confined space and in the process of decay. A smoke explosion takes place when ventilation or attack of the fire disrupts the thermal layering in the fire room/structure. This disruption causes the flammable gases in the area to ignite, causing an explosive spontaneous combustion similar to a flashover. Both backdrafts and smoke explosions produce nearly the same effects, an explosive spontaneous combustion which takes the form of "flame thrower". -Credentials: 3 Years NYS Fire service —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.67.21.196 (talk) 05:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Section Cause Not Explaining the Cause
I find the article does not explain the cause of the back draft. I'm not a fire specialist, so I'm not in the league with some of the contributors. However, the section Cause concentrates on explaining the physics of the explosion, what causes the explosion etc. The section doesn't say anything about what causes the backdraft, i.e. the gases to be sucked back in, in the first place. There must be a pressure differential in the first place between the outside and the inside to cause the gases and smoke to be sucked back in, and I do not see any possible reason for this pressure differential, being introduced and discussed as the root cause. Bottom line is: the article needs to be improved but I do not have the knowledge to add material in a time-effective way.--Gciriani (talk) 16:25, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

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Wrapping up? Nope - outstanding issues
Kranar wants to wrap this collaboration up, I think he may have moved on. But before this article makes it to GAC there are a number of open issues that still have not been satisfactorily addressed. They are listed below. Cross them off as they are done, then we can archive this, the peer review and go for GA.

 * 1) ❌Should submit to League of Copyeditors once all other concerns are addressed.
 * 2) ✅Geography section is still basically about Lake Springfield.
 * 3) ✅Looks like the consensus on tornadoes was keep as is, just as a note. IvoShandor 23:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) ❌The Government of Springfield article should be written and Sister cities of Springfield, Illinois should be merged with it per the Detroit, Michigan FA model.
 * 5) ❌The history section is still being worked on, I still need to look at it too, so its partially my fault as well.
 * 6) ✅ and ❌The pertinent points in David's table above should all be adequately referenced in both the main history article and here.
 * 7) ✅Lead needs to conform to WP:LEAD and should not contain inline cites. In addition the lead should be a summary of the article and any points (barring outstanding and extraordinary claims) can be cited where they appear in the body of the article, and they should all appear in the body of the article.
 * 8) ✅Refs needed for films and a few other statements in the culture section, IMDB doesn't count as reliable.
 * 9) ✅ and ❌Sports section needs to be expanded to at least mention past team names, another sentence or two on current teams wouldn't hurt. We need to make sure we have accounted for all activity here.
 * 10) ❌A couple of the subsections under Culture are pretty short, could use some expansion if possible.
 * 11) ❌The References issue above is still mostly outstanding.
 * 12) ❌The cityscape section is about a sentence and would greatly benefit from someone who knows the town and has the cites to back it up.
 * 13) ❌The media section needs to mention all major outlets.
 * 14) ❌No crime section yet.
 * 15) ❌Could use a good further reading section filled with some good books, and some peer reviewed academic articles that we don't use as references.

This is what I see for now. I have also added some images back into the article as well as created a good gallery on Commons and linked it in the see also. IvoShandor 06:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Reworking intro, original with cites below:

Springfield is the capital of the U.S. state of Illinois and the county seat of Sangamon County. Officially founded as a temporary county seat on April 10, 1821, it had its seat made permanent on March 18, 1825. It was incorporated as a town on April 2, 1832 and was granted a city charter on April 6, 1840. Springfield became the capital of Illinois on February 28, 1837, and the Legislature convened there for the first time on December 9, 1839. Its population was 111,454 as of the 2000 census, and, as of 2005 census estimates, the city population had grown to 115,668.

Springfield played prominently in the careers of two U.S. presidents. Abraham Lincoln began his political career in the city and Ulysses S. Grant began his career as an officer in the Civil War in Springfield. Abraham Lincoln, being a prominent past citizen, is affiliated with several local historic sites and the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum. Springfield is also home to the University of Illinois at Springfield, a campus of the University of Illinois system. Springfield has also experienced difficulties, including race riots and at least two tornado outbreaks with touchdowns. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by IvoShandor (talk • contribs) 23:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC). IvoShandor 23:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I put up my new intro, if any of hte info above can be worked into it after the history section is done I will. IvoShandor 03:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That is a pretty good intro. I say post it!--Kranar drogin 02:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * While the issues above do need to be sorted out, its not as if we used a bunch of unreliable sources, there are just better ones. I am nominating for GA now, to see where it goes. I think it meets the criteria. I will copy edit again as it waits for review. IvoShandor 11:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Many of the issues above would be more applicable to an FAC than a GAC, as is I believe this probably passes the good article criteria. And I am pretty harsh reviewer, just ask User:Bbik. : ) IvoShandor 11:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Most of the article falls into GAC, with some expansion going into FAC. I agree that it is ready, and am eager to see what others have to say. To see what this was originally to what it is now is a VAST improvement.--Kranar drogin 11:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I am going to do a few minor tweaks, add some refs and I should have it ready to go by tonite. Also some of the sites you listed below have articles, I mean some of the red linked ones, under different names, for instance Dana-Thomas House. IvoShandor 11:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Locator map
I've replaced the first map with an auto locator map of Illinois that places the locator dot automatically based on the coordinates in the infobox. Both myself and Kranar drogin think the new map looks better. I like that it matches the color scheme of the 2nd map, making for a much more unified appearance to the infobox. Does anyone have any comments? VerruckteDan 20:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it makes it look 100Xs better. I am going to let the people over at the Illinois Project know too, get their opinions.--Kranar drogin 21:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It looks good. I like it better now, and one day I am going to finish this article, lately I have been caught up with this article. IvoShandor
 * Great work! I had thought about doing this myself, but became distracted with non-Wikipedia matters. It looks much better than what I would have created anyway. David H. Flint 16:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

List of Places
Later on, I think some of these will need articles for Springfield. I found most of them on my Google Earth program. Forgot to sign.--Kranar drogin 04:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Henson Robinson Zoo Museum
 * Henson Robinson Zoo - http://www.hensonrobinsonzoo.org/
 * Nelson Center Arena
 * The Pearson Museum
 * Illinois Preservation Agency Museum
 * Vachel Lindsay House Museum
 * Dana-Thomas House
 * Springfield Art Museum
 * Chinquapin Bridge (historical)
 * Coal Bank Bridge
 * Mowery Bend
 * Roby West Oil Field
 * Glasser Bridge
 * Sugar Creek Covered Bridge
 * Lindsey Bridge
 * Horseshoe Lake (Illinois) (historical)
 * Halfmoon Lake (Illinois)
 * Wiggins Slough
 * Cow Pond (historical)
 * Clear Lake
 * Shaft Pond
 * Mud Lake (Illinois)
 * Sangchris Lake
 * Leisure Lakes
 * Weingardt Pond

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Ursuline Academy
Should we remove Ursuline from the high school list since they closed after the 2007 school year?Tinkleheimer 20:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * We can, or we can just note that it closed in the article, whatever seems good and right. IvoShandor 20:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The article says that Springfield is home to "at least eight high schools". As far as I know it is home to only six - Springfield High, Southeast, and Lanphier are public, Sacred Heart-Griffin, Calvary Academy and Lutheran High are private.  There are a number of other schools in the area, but those six are the only high schools in Springfield proper. JAM Junior (talk) 03:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * In that case doesn't the question come up of how to deal with a high school like Glenwood? Meaning, a large number of Glenwood's students are actually Springfield city residents -- so does Glenwood end up being "one of the eight" or something altogether different? That said, does Riverton High pull from part of the north/northeast side of Springfield too, or not? JasonDUIUC (talk) 06:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Major Parks
It is such I nice article, I didn't want to just change it without comment. However, Washington and Lincoln are the city's two major parks, not Washington and Carpenter. The current section says that Washington and Carpenter are the two best known which is NPOV problem (best known by who?) but it is relatively indisputable that Washington and Lincoln are the two major parks. Washington has the Carillon and the Botanical Gardens. Lincoln has Nelson Center.ColinBlair 23:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * What I can say is Colin, those of us who do not live there, do not know this. So what you are going to have to do is provide a source. That entire section is going to have to be rewritten I believe with sources. So is there a park district website? I see that Carpenter Park, Springfield, Illinois was created about the park, so I will have to say provide me with sources and we can see about correcting this if this is a problem.--Kranar drogin 23:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It is hard to justify with sources that Washington and Lincoln are the two primary parks, you can look through the park distict website at www.springfieldparks.org and see that links to information on both parks are on each page. However, nothing is really conclusive. One thing I did find is a refrence at http://www.illinoistimes.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A3250 that states conclusively that Washington park is the flagship park of the city. Since that is the only thing that can be backed by third party reference, maybe that is where it should be left. The problem with Carpenter Park is that it isn't in Springfield itself, it is north of Springfield and is really a nature preseve with trails and no infrastructure other than a stone-and-log shelter and two port-a-potties. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.135.58.157 (talk) 02:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

History section
Nothing happened in the city after 1908? Hard to believe. Rmhermen (talk) 16:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC) I just now added a single sentence noting that Barack Obama announced his presidential candidacy from the grounds of the Old State Capitol. Given the history of the city (the 1908 race riot and the subsequent formation of the NAACP), I think it's historically significant enough to note, regardless of whether he eventually becomes president. Wally Hartshorn (talk) 03:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

 * I came to this talk page to note the same problem. There is currently nothing in the history section between 1908 and 2006. While there's already perhaps too much focus on race, the city was the site of a famous KKK rally in 1994, for example. It'd be worth a short sentence in a normal history section, but it'd be too much in the deficient section we have now.   Will Beback    talk    21:48, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Southeast High School
In the "education" section, it says that Southeast High School replaced Feitshans in 1974. Southeast actually opened in the fall of 1967. The last high school graduating class at Feitshans wss in the spring of 1967. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.82.78.55 (talk) 04:29, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Sports section could be expanded...
Sports I like it so far, but it could use some work... we need to mention the Springfield_(IL)_Cardinals and our hockey teams... the Kings, the Junior Blues. I'm willing to work on it myself, but I'm brand new... nice job on the football teams. I only recently heard of the Foxes myself, and I live here... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angryvoid (talk • contribs) 11:11, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

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Lake Springfield = damming of Sugar Creek, not Lick Creek.
Not comfortable editing but noted this erroneous info. The lake is formed by the damming of Sugar Creek at the southeast edge of Springfield. Lick Creek makes up a small part of the lake but is a tributary of Sugar Creek, entering the lake from the west and well upstream of the dam.

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History
What happened in Springfield prior to European settlement? 2604:3D09:CD7A:1E0:A564:DCA9:B4A5:EE00 (talk) 13:24, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Ummm...so Springfield City Council positions are nonpartisan...
...if Springfield City Council positions are nonpartisan, then why is the current sitting mayor marked as a Republican. To my recollection as an Illinois resident, Springfield HAS NEVER held partisan primaries for any of the city council positions, including mayor, clerk, and treasurer.

Point of reference being the election results from the April 4, 2023 consolidated election: https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/IL/Sangamon/117728/web.307039/#/summary

My point is proven through the past four election cycles:

2019: https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/IL/Sangamon/94957/Web02.228981/#/

2015: https://sccdata.net/results/April-7-2015-Consolidated/cumm.htm#spi

2011: https://sccdata.net/results/April-5-2011-Consolidated/cumm.htm#spi

2007: https://sccdata.net/results/April%2017,%202007%20Consolidated/cumm.htm#CITYOFSPRINGFIELD

In order words, the mayor should be listed as nonpartisan (NP) or independent (I) Himnmedia2017 (talk) 10:42, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Salem, Oregon

Mayor-Council or Council-Manager?
It is not clear whether the city is governed by a strong mayor system or a council-manager system. 184.100.134.202 (talk) 18:09, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * indicates it is the latter. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:58, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Beeblebrox (talk) 20:01, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Primary topic discussion on disambiguation page.
I just started a discussion on the disambiguation page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Salem#Discussion_Requested:_Primary_Topic Weebro55 (talk) 04:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Courtney Love lived in Salem, Oregon
While Courtney Love's biography, as of this writing, has no explicit reference to Salem, Oregon, it DOES contain the following line: "At age 14, Love was arrested for shoplifting a t-shirt and was sent to Hillcrest Youth Correctional Facility.[16][18]" Note that this line has two references, and that if you click on the link to Hillcrest you will see that it is located in Salem, Oregon. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Copy Editor (talk • contribs) 14:50, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * That may be (that she was at Hilcrest), but we generally do not place people in the city categories based upon their forced incarceration at a correction facility located in that city. Much like we generally do not place people in the city categories based upon them attending a college located in a city. Further, the general practice for the "Notable resident" sections in cities is either a citation is provided in the city's article on the line where the person is listed, or it must be covered in the article covering the person (which is actually covered as a comment to that very section in this very article). Aboutmovies (talk) 06:29, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Or, for the guideline this is based off of, see WP:NLIST (add yes, not all items in the list do have citations but that is not a reason to add more). Aboutmovies (talk) 06:35, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

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Assess for schools
Good start for schools. Refs required. Pictures are good. Very good history. Alumni short, but one entry gets you a mid ... needs reference. Victuallers 14:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Untitled
A source for improvement: http://richmond.k12.va.us/indexnew/sub/history/armstrong.cfm. Note that some of the dates seem to be anachronistic errors (19xx instead of 18xx). Ground 02:23, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * http://richmond.k12.va.us/indexnew/sub/history/RichmondColored.cfm gives the history of the Colored Normal School. Ground 02:46, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * There is quite a bit of information on these two pages, and the combined history can serve as a microcosm of the development of education for American black students, particularly in the former Confederacy. Ground 02:49, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Archived VFD
This article was proposed for deletion in December 2004. The discussion is available at Votes for deletion/Armstrong High School

Concentrating while on the computer
My 12th grade child cannot focus while in the PLC program for distractions around her particularily music being played on other computers around her even when students are told not to play music. Teacher has no control of class and is being ran all over.(Dip232232000 (talk) 01:48, 16 September 2009 (UTC))

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Talk:Pierre, South Dakota

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I added a image of the state capital building. JeffreyAllen1975 19:01, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Pronunciation
"Peer" contradicts the pronunciation at List of names in English with non-intuitive pronunciations. Which is correct? Ardric47 04:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

It is most definitely "peer" Bk5545

I grew up here and I can assure you that it is pronounced "peer". Everyone in Pierre pronounces it that way and it is small enough to say this with certainty.

 * I'm presently residing here in Sioux Falls, and I can assure one & all that the people here do pronounce it like "peer" (or "pier"), rather than like the French name "Pierre." That, frankly, is not a question in dispute.  What I am wondering about is WHY it is pronounced that way?  Does anyone know?  Because the place was named after a Franco-American named "Pierre," after all. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 23:30, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

 * The mythology as I understand it, is that although Pierre was founded by the French, the Norwegians settled the town and the pronunciation stuck. Another key example of this in SD is the town of Sinai, pronounced SE-Ne-I. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Svlberg (talk • contribs) 17:06, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Major transportation hub?
It is not served by an interstate highway, yet is a "major transportation hub"? Since it isn't a seaport, I guess it must get a lot of train, river boat, and air traffic. Is there even an airport there? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.20.2.1 (talk) 15:24, 12 February 2007 (UTC).

It has no train depot. There are facilities for grain loading but otherwise, trains don't stop there. There is no bus station. As the river is dammed at several locations, river traffic is out. As mentioned, there is no local interstate (I-90 is 30 miles away.) The small airport is underserviced and flights are frequently cancelled on short notice due to, among other things, lack of booking. With its remote location and lack of intersection, it would be reaching to refer to Pierre as a minor transportation hub, much less the hub of anything.

 * Its clearly not a transportation hub, major or otherwise. I'm not sure the state of South Dakota contains any location that could reasonably be termed a "major transportation hub," but if so, it ain't Pierre.  South Dakota is the only state in the Continental United States not served by Amtrack.  The closest major transportation hub to South Dakota, is probably Omaha, Nebraska. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 23:38, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

City Name
I talked with the former state historian (who is now retired and lived in Pierre almost all of his adult life) and he said that the city was so named not because of any French explorer, but because of the dock they had in the Missouri River. They spelled it "Pierre" to make it seem more sophisticated and foreign-like... but pronounce it just like any ordinary "pier".

This story needs additional documentation, but at least it gives us the grounds to take down the undocumented story in the lead paragraph. David Bergan (talk) 16:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Pierre name origin.
I don't know about the present-day city of Pierre, but Fort Pierre across the river was named after Pierre Chouteau. He was a member of the Chouteau family who founded St. Louis, MO and had a booming fur trade business for 40 years before Lewis and Clark ever dreamed of the west. Their empire stretched to several trading posts in all parts of the west plus trade with Santa Fe, N.M.

Of course, the long-time residents of Pierre are entitled to pronounce it any way they wish, but it seems like a stretch to think the city is spelled "Pierre" and is named after a pier in the river. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lady Historian (talk • contribs) 20:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

 * The article specifies that the Peer/Pier thing is only having to do with the pronunciation, not with the origin of the name. In other words, it never says that the town is named for a boat pier. However, it wouldn't be bad to add the name's etymology to the article. I'll work on looking for a reference for it in the next few days. (Also, for what it's worth, the "peer" pronunciation isn't just used by residents of the town; nearly all South Dakotans use that pronunciation as well.) 21:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

 * Oops, I see now that you were probably responding to the thread before this one, not to what was said in the article - struck some of my comments. Alexius  Horatius  22:46,

i know that pierre was not the capital when sd became a state it was yankton

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"access to an expressway"?....
The article says that Pierre "is one of four state capitals that is not served by an interstate highway, and it is unique among them in not having access to an expressway."

Of course it's true that there no Interstate highway in the city, but US highway 83 is a four lane divided highway the entire way between Pierre and I-90. I'm pretty sure US 83 would be considered an "expressway" - certainly at least as much, if not more so, than any road in Juneau, Alaska...And none of Juneau's roads connect the city with anywhere beyond its own vicinity - not to other regions of the state or country.

So while Pierre's position is perhaps somewhat isolated - at least by distance, if nothing else - it's not unprecedented. Jefferson City, Missouri, like Pierre, is not directly on an Interstate, but it's connected with I-70 by four lane highways, just like Pierre is with I-90. And the distinction is largely just academic. For a typical motorist, it matters very little whether the four lane divided highway they're driving on has an official "Interstate" designation.

In any event, I'm gonna go ahead and remove the part about it not having expressway access, as that's completely inaccurate. -2003:CA:8731:F0C3:6992:9233:8E83:E3B4 (talk) 21:56, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

 * I clarified that Pierre isn't served by the "Interstate Highway System" and cited a federal government source. I also deleted 5he subsequent statement about railways, which doesn't belong in a paragraph about cars and highways—we know the railways are still in service because the preceding paragraph is in the present tense. Matuko (talk) 02:56, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

"Pierre"
The usage of "Pierre" is under discussion, see Talk:Pierre (disambiguation).  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 22:37, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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1969 West German federal election

Federal elections were held in West Germany on 28 September 1969 to elect the members of the 6th Bundestag. The CDU/CSU remained the largest faction and the Social Democratic Party remained the largest single party in the Bundestag, winning 237 of the 518 seats. After the election, the SPD formed a coalition with the Free Democratic Party and SPD leader Willy Brandt became Chancellor.

The federal election resulted in the election of the first ever SPD Chancellor in West Germany Willy Brandt.

Campaign
Upon the resignation of Chancellor Ludwig Erhard on 1 December 1966, a grand coalition of Christian Democrats and Social Democrats had governed West Germany under Federal Chancellor Kurt Georg Kiesinger (CDU) with SPD chairman Willy Brandt as vice-chancellor and foreign minister.

Economics Minister Karl Schiller (SPD) had proposed revaluing (increasing the external value of) the Deutsche Mark, West Germany's currency, to reduce the country's inflation rate and the rate of growth of the country's businesses' income. He also wanted to reduce West Germany's economic dependence on the exports. However, his counterpart Finance Minister Franz-Josef Strauss (CSU) rejected the Deutsche Mark's revaluation, because his strong constituents, the Bavarian farmers, also opposed it. After all, the European Economic Community's foodstuffs prices were paid in US dollars, and the Deutsche Mark's revaluation would have made them less favourable for the West German farmers (i.e. more expensive for other Western Europeans to buy).

The coalition effectively ended already before the regular 1969 Bundestag elections, because of this revaluation conflict. In addition, enough West German voters were at last willing to give the Social Democratic leader, Foreign Minister Willy Brandt, a chance to govern West Germany. Brandt, who ran for the third time after 1961 and 1965, had shown sympathy towards those groups, like left-wing intellectuals and activists of the German student movement, who had felt ignored by the Christian Democrat-led coalition governments. In addition, his clear intellect, remarkable self-control and honest manner appealed to ordinary West Germans.

Aftermath
Willy Brandt, against the will of several party fellows like Herbert Wehner or Helmut Schmidt, chose to leave the grand coalition with the CDU/CSU, forming a social-liberal coalition with the Free Democratic Party (FDP) instead. On 21 October 1969 he was elected Chancellor of Germany, the first SPD chancellor in the postwar period, after the last Social Democrat holding this position had been Hermann Müller from 1928 to 1930. FDP chairman Walter Scheel succeeded Brandt as vice-chancellor and foreign minister. Brandt's government proceeded with the revaluation Schiller had proposed, raising the value of the mark by 9.3% in late October.

Disappointed Kiesinger bitterly complained about the faithless liberals. Though he had again achieved the plurality of votes for the CDU, he had to lead his party into opposition. He was succeeded as chairman by Rainer Barzel in 1971.

However the Cabinet Brandt I could only rely on an absolute majority (Kanzlermehrheit) of twelve votes in the Bundestag. Several party switches in protest against Brandt's Ostpolitik of FDP and SPD members resulted in the snap election of 1972.

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