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Talk:Joan Peters

Removal
This is ridiculous. The page and its history was removed merely on the base of 'objections', disregarding the impeccable scholarship of Norman Finkelstein.

Finkelstein's findings, as well as the British articles are referenced in respected Israeli historian Baruch Kimmerling, and Joel Midgals 'The Palestinian People' (Introduction xxvii).

Next time, I would suggest a little research, before such an outrageous step is taken. The Observer article, as well as the Times Literary Supplment review are all available, and if you haven't found them, that only points towards the laziness of the research, not towards their non-existence. And if you are indeed claiming they don't exist, maybe you should take up the issue with Baruch Kimmerling.

 * Finkelstein published his findings in a leftwing political magazine, it failed acceptance by peer reviewed academic journals. Of course leftwing radicals who consider his research to be "impeccable" dismiss this as Zionist conspiracy, *yawn*. Amongst conservatives (i.e. people who aren't rabid anti-Zionists) it is Finkelstein not Peters who is not mentioned in polite company. Kuratowski's Ghost 23:18, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Zionism has nothing with conservatism to do, on the contrary, zionism is a form of national socialism. Amongst conservatives and liberals, it is Finkelstein who is mentioned in polite company. Joan Peters in only mentioned in that sort of company mentioning David Irving. No serious academic today would dare cite Joan Peters. Even a Nakba revisionist like Alan Dershowitz does not (or: he denies it). -- Palestinian Guy 12:07, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

 * "Form of national socialism"? A bit cheeky considering how chummy the Mufti and Hitler were together! 62.190.148.115 (talk) 09:28, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Rewrite of Article
Since this article is supposed to be about Joan Peters, it should contain information on her. As it was it was simply a shorter version of the already existing article on her book "From Time Immemorial". Thus I removed the content on the book itself and replaced with biographical info on Joan Peters herself. Since little info is available on the net I used what little was available on her. For those wishing to only discuss her book please add to the article From Time Immemorial and not this one. --Cab88 07:32, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Cool Kuratowski's Ghost 09:50, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

lots of wrong information
The material presented includes false and very misleading statements.

- Joan Peters was never a producer of TV news documentaries. She worked in the middle east for CBS, but at no time was she a producer for CBS. She was a low-level reporter sent in at the time of the 1973 war with no previous experience in the middle east.

- She has never been a foreign affiars commentator for PBS. She has appeared on PBS programming, but that is not the same thing as a claim she was a PBS commentator.

- She has never been, to quote, a "white house adviser" in any administration. She never had a position in the white house itself. She was a low-level subject expert who gave lectures mostly to state department officials, but she was never at the level of a policy adviser within the white house.

- She has only written the one book. The page originally left the impression that she had written more than one.

- She is not an expert on the middle east. She called herself an expert on Israeli-Palestinian issues only (though now thoroughly discredited).

 * We prefer information from her agency to unsourced criticism from anonymous editors. Kuratowski's Ghost 17:25, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

 * To say here that this book is simply controversial is not enough -- note must be made, on THIS page as well, of the book's illegitimacy. Kuratowski's Ghost seems to be stubbornly opposed to any mention that this book has been widely *discredited* by numerous serious scholars from all parts of the political spectrum, despite that saying so is a statement of *fact* and hardly a pov. He clearly seems to have a generalized bias against leftist scholars, so presumably he will accept a *sourced* critique from Capitalism Magazine, which is hardly a bastion of liberalism, "Zionist conspiracy" thought, etc.

 * Her book is heavily nitpicked sure, but saying "discredited" is disinformation, other books that have not been deemed controversial present the same info that her book does. Kuratowski's Ghost 21:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I'll end this edit skirmish now, not b/c I concede the point, but for 2 unrelated reasons: First, I'm reasonably satisfied with the related site re Peters's book (and the discussion therein), which should sufficiently convince most rational people that the book is indeed an outright fraud. (FYI: I'm personally conservative, am not a Muslim or Arab, and have no personal stake in Middle East issues.) Secondly, KG (or should I call you Colin), it's abundantly clear from your other discussion postings that you're motivated more by an extremist right-wing, rabidly pro-Israel ideology than you are by objectivity and verifiable facts, at least with regards to the Israel-Palestine issue. Thankfully there are enough other contributors who are a bit more concerned with facts rather than frauds, and who rely on genuine scholars rather than pseudo-experts or right-wing sociopaths to support their claims.

 * The fact remains that (a) you will find the same info in books that leftist style anti-Semites have failed to discredit, (b) the book is still promoted by respected individuals like Netanyahu and appears on lists of recommended reading, (c) as Daniel Pipes review of the book clearly points out, critics have failed to overturn the central thesis of the book. Any rational individual will clearly recognize the the obvious slander and defamation aimed at trying to quell this book that is so harmful to the tired old disinformation used by pro-Palestinian propagandists. Kuratowski's Ghost 23:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Its pretty evident that Kuratowski's Ghost is biased against Palestinians. He refuses to consider the New York Times article by Anthony Lewis. He refuses to look at what reputed Israeli Historians (e.g. Prof. Yehoshua Ben-Arieh) had to say about the book. He completely ignores the fact that the book was completely trashed in the UK at the time. The book is no longer cited by any serious historian anywhere. The word "discredited" is an appropriate word when referring to this book. The only people he could cite in defense of his argument are: 1. Daniel Pipes - An extremist right wing writer who is well known for his Islamophobia. 2. Netanyahu - An Israeli right-wing Likudnik politician.
 * "the book was completely trashed in the UK at the time" Mainly because Chomsky, by his own admission, contacted several UK colleagues and urged them to go out and purchase copies to write negative reviews. 62.190.148.115 (talk) 09:38, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * So it was all a huge conspiracy apparently. Very strange that you should suggest that a single Jewish individual is apparently so powerful as to control the entire narrative on their own.2601:140:8900:2070:2587:FC68:B5DE:F25D (talk) 22:26, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Peters's Book is Discredited
Yehoshua Ben-Arieh condemned the Peters book for discrediting the "Zionist cause". Leon Wieseltier called it a "shabby performance by an ignorant women". When the book was released in England it was really trashed by Albert Hourani the Oxford orientalist, Ian and David Gilmour from the London Review of Books, and Avishai Margalit of Hebrew University. Also see Anthony Lewis, "There Were No Indians," New York Times, January 13, 1986, p. A15. Just grabbing a basic history book "Palestine and the Arab-Israeli Conflict" off my shelf I turned to the second chapter pg. 44 footnote 11, it says her claims were "rejected by scholars."

Read the articles in Captialism Magazine and Journal of Palestine Studies, Vol. 14, No. 1 (Autumn, 1984), pp. 126-134

The scholarly consensus of those who are experts in the Pre-Israeli State history is very clear cut: they universally dismiss the work as worthless, except as a discredited propaganda piece, and fraud. No serious scholar in the field takes this work seriously. To suggest otherwise, is to get it wrong.76.14.42.200 (talk) 03:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

-notably, she falsifies citations EG Chapter 2: "14. "This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre. . . like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades." Azzam Pasha, Secretary General of the Arab League, at Cairo press conference, May 15, 1948, New York Times, May 16, 1948." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.164.64 (talk) 02:13, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

New text
The new text by user Hadan strays into original research and can't stand even though I personally agree with it. I just thought I'd note something funny I found at the far-right propaganda site eretzyisroel.org. It is supposedly an interview with Peters about her background.
 * Q: What precipitated your interest in the history of the Middle East?
 * A: I was sent there by CBS for the 1973 Yom Kippur War to do a series of documentaries. I stayed for the war and its aftermath -- it became a very long process.

According to Ms Peters, CBS knew when the Yom Kippur War would happen even though the Mossad and Israeli military intelligence were taken by complete surprise! Zerotalk 23:05, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Citing only Norman Finkelstein in the openning section
The opinion of Mr Finkelstein is as important as anybody else's opinion. Therefore citing him as if his view closes the subjuct is biased. WP:NPOV. Refering to his work, among others is more balanced. Bbeehvh (talk) 04:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

 * As you see in this old version of your, the criticism by Finkelstein was much prominently placed. I have move the book issue to its own section to allow the the positive aspects of Peters' career to dominate the lede. All your so far edits seem to be one sided POV pushing. I this case you are pushing the POV too far. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 09:15, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

finkelstein
"Finkelstein accused Alan Dershowitz of plagiarising From Time Immemorial on the background of, amongst other things, identical misquotations of Mark Twain" --- this is bad writing (what does "on the background" mean?), also the source given does not indicate "identical misquotations". Peters quoted from a 1881 edition of Twain with one serious sin (joining two passages together as if they were continuous). Dershowitz copied the text including the same ellipses and the same sin, and also the same page numbers, from Peters, but cited a 1996 edition that has the text on different pages. (Details in Beyond Chutzpah p275.) I'm not sure this belongs here, as it is more about Dershowitz than Peters. The episode deserves mention but maybe a more generic statement without Twain would be better? Zerotalk 06:08, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

 * The episode is covered in detail in the article about the book, and IMHO should not be covered in an article about Peters. Bbeehvh (talk) 06:53, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

 * The book From Time Immemorial and the Dershowitz-Finkelstein affair both have their own articles. They are highly notable. The inclusion of the short references here is thus fully justified. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 09:18, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

 * The inclusion of a short reference to Finkelstein is justified.
 * The inclusion of his uncivil words as if they are the last judgement is hardly justified. The inclusion of ONLY his words, as if there is no other side is highly biased.
 * Bbeehvh (talk) 09:33, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Biased presentation
The current presentation sugests that the argument has ended by proving the book is a fraud. This view is clearly biased. It is fair to cite whoever you wish that opposed the book, but the argument is clearly not at end. I added the last words of supporters to show just that.Bbeehvh 19:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. However, it is worth noting that the entire section is non-policy-compliant. What should be mentioned in the section is the following:
 * What From Time Immemorial is about
 * Praise and criticism that the book received by notable figures in notable publications
 * The Dershowitz–Finkelstein affair
 * Currently the section lists some superfluous information, including criticism from a blog (Counterpunch). Feel free to rework the structure of the section, and I might help along the way. —Ynhockey (Talk) 18:48, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Sometimes the general consensus is that the book is garbage. This seems to be the case here.  For example the New York times book review calls it ""sheer forgery," stating that "[i]n Israel, at least, the book was almost universally dismissed as sheer rubbish except maybe as a propaganda weapon."" .  In the NEW York review of Books her writing was called "highly tendentious use — or neglect — of the available source material'. But more crucial, he wrote, "is her misunderstanding of basic historical processes and her failure to appreciate the central importance of natural population increase as compared to migratory movements.""  These are not fringe publications. Infact I don't know of two more respected book reviewing publications. And if anything they are known for being supportive of Israel over Palestine.  It is simply the general consensus that her book is not a serious scholarly piece. Its unfortunate the article does not represent this well sourced fact. 97.91.187.111 (talk) 09:15, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

 * Finklestein proved the book was a fraud; you can call him anti-Israeli all you like but his evidence is irrefutable and backed up by peer review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.64.115.105 (talk) 19:36, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

The book itself is the source
I added to the article:
 * However, both migration from out of Palestine and migration from the mountainous areas of Palestine are in accord with Peters' thesis. Both support her conclusion that the population that inhabited the areas that later came under Israel's control was not indigineous to those areas, and that the fantastic grow in the Arab population of these areas could not have come from natural growth.

The source of this analysis is not my original research but comes from the book itself.

Shoplifter - had you read the book before you deleted my addition? Bbeehvh 06:17, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

 * You apparently do not understand what WP:OR entails, so I respectfully suggest that you look into the article on this issue. No matter what the book says, by using the book's claims to refute criticsm of the book is itself WP:OR since the author herself hasn't made such a refutation. You are conducting original research by rendering judgement on the content of the book as it relates to the criticism by Porath. As follows from the lede to WP:OR; "you must be able to cite reliable published sources that are both directly related to the topic of the article, and that directly support the material as presented." (my emphasis). Shoplifter (talk) 20:42, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Then, if a book claims A, and someone claims that A is wrong because of B, and clearly A and B are not mutualy exclusive - there is no way to point it out? Bbeehvh 16:02, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand your point, but the question here isn't as clear cut. Porath claims that Peters's error lies in her overestimating the populational consequences of the coastal migration. She says in the book that population quadrupled; he says this isn't the case. She hasn't responded to his criticism. Therefore, it would be original research to juxtapose her claims as repudating his criticism, because the voice is now yours, not Peters's. Shoplifter (talk) 21:37, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * What you now say on behalf of Porath is very different from what the article, as it stands now, is saying on his behalf. Perhaps what is needed is a clear explanation of Peters' thesis. Bbeehvh 03:24, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * "Porath argued that the available figures and sources do not indicate a "supposed quintupling" (as argued by Peters)[8] or "a substantial immigration of Arabs to Palestine"[8] (as argued by Pipes). While Porath notes that "the Arab population of the coastal area of Palestine grew faster than it did in other areas,"[8] Porath argues this "[m]ore reasonably...confirms the very well-known fact that the coastal area attracted Arab villagers from the mountainous parts of Palestine who preferred the economic opportunities in the fast-growing areas of Jaffa and Haifa to the meager opportunities available in their villages"[8] rather than, as argued by Pipes, the European advancements brought by and "economic opportunity created by the Zionists."[8]"

 * My bad, I used the term "migration" too loosely. Porath says the increase was a consequence of Palestinians moving within their own country; Peters claims the population increase was due to migration. Notice however that Porath rejects the notion of migration from out of Palestine. If you are to make the claim that her thesis is in accord with his criticism (which it isn't, as far as I can tell), you would have to source this with citations from the book (see WP:V) . Her thesis is sufficiently described in the book's article, I think. If you want to extend the description in that article, you are free to do so, as long as you relate the claims of the book (with footnotes), and not your own views or interpretations of its content. Shoplifter (talk) 03:49, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I think the text about the book on this page is very dense and ill structured. Would you (and everyone else reading this, obviously) be opposed to removing it and focusing the discussion to the book's own article instead? Shoplifter (talk) 04:47, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I think you are very right. I suggest that this article will only mention the book, as it is part of her biography, and will then refer the reader to the article about the book. Bbeehvh 05:35, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I've removed the text. I think it's sufficient to point to the main article since the book is already mentioned in the beginning. Shoplifter (talk) 06:06, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Very well. Now we can continue the discussion over there, and perhaps with the current atmosphere of cooperation we may come to an agreement. Bbeehvh 07:33, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Adding opinions about the book - not here
There is a room for your opinion about the book, and it is not here. We have a long article about the various views of the book. If you add the negative views here, someone will, of course, add the positive ones, and we have that article copied here. Bbeehvh 04:49, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree and have reverted the edit. I would however be extremely interested in reading the JSTOR article that's linked to in full, as the assertion made by the editor contradicts what I know about the history of this book. —Ynhockey (Talk) 13:12, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Check your email. Zerotalk 02:06, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I have never seen an example where there is no summary given for the main article. I am going to add a summary per standard practice. Dlv999 (talk) 07:04, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Original research?
"She is currently an advisor for the National Committee on American Foreign Policy. " – How do we know that the "Joan Peters" listed there with no information is this one? Zerotalk 08:04, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
 * To be honest, all of the sources in the lead seem pretty ropey:-

 * Indiana Jewish Historical Society's self-published material about their own board members.
 * A corporate booking agent
 * The National Committee on American Foreign Policy page, which list the name "Joan Peters" but offers no further details. Dlv999 (talk) 09:10, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
 * She is also reported here as such : . Pluto2012 (talk) 17:10, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Total bias
Following 's edit, shall I ask: Where in Norman Finkelstein's lead section is there criticism of him? There's none, so you did you say so, Nishidani? Also, could you please show me another example in the entire English Wikipedia where the lead section of an author is solely dedicated to information about criticism and attacks of his/her book? Followed by a bunch of links, which all but one attack that book? This info is POV-pushing of WP:UNDUE weight material. That book, From Time Immemorial, has its own article. Shalom11111 (talk) 13:39, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Try and read my edit-sumnmary. if you can't understand it, there are dictionaries on the net that provide assistance. You removed from the article a mass of material. I restored it suggesting your remark about the lead suggests that, even from your view, the material should not be erased, but moved down into a controversy section. POV pushers customarily cancel obliterate excise good material on a technical excuse when, since the aim here is to build an encyclopedia, the neutral constructive thing to do is to relocate it. The retention of information adequately sourced is not POV pushing. So by all means create a controversy section, and relocate it there. The fact that her (assuming she wrote it) book has its own page does not mean her bio must be cleansed of the controversy surrounding its success and nonsensical content. Nishidani (talk) 13:54, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Your wrote that the content should be "retained", which means kept, so thanks but no dictionary is needed. Yet you have not provided any other example of such an attack on an author's lead section. Any experienced user would know that this is not how to "adequately" use sources, and that all of these external links are not related to her biography - that is pathetic. I will wait for another opinion on the matter here, and if nothings comes I will edit and add another section (in a way will hopefully satisfy the "other side", which is apparently not even sure she is the writer who needs to be criticized for that book). Shalom11111 (talk) 14:26, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I again suggest that you peruse, read, parse, and construe what I wrote. If you still can't grasp the point I'll rephrase it:I have no objection to that material being placed in a section below the lead. It is to be retained and relocated. Nishidani (talk) 15:53, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Reverting an edit that deleted all this harmful material is not "constructive" in any way. At the article's current form, these propaganda attacks against the book better off stay out, and perhaps added appropriately and in a smaller volume later. Again, I did say the content can be added to another section. Peruse what I wrote as well (by the way, since the word "peruse" means to read something in careful way, telling someone to peruse and read is a bit gratuitous. Shalom11111 (talk) 19:32, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Now that material is 'harmful'? That book is now, by universal scholarly assent, first in Israel and everywhere else, a travesty of coimplex facts, and it got the reviews it merited. That is relevant to her life. One simply makes a small synthesis of her book, with a main page direct to the book. as at the Finkelstein page, and relocates the critical material to that section. Nishidani (talk) 19:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Missing NJBA
A National Jewish Book Award is absent from the article, I suggest adding an Awards section with the following entry.

 * 1995: National Jewish Book Award in the Israel category for From Time Immemorial: The Origins of the Arab-Jewish Conflict over Palestine

Lemieuxn (talk) 23:55, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Citation does not match text
At the start of the page, it says that the book by Peters falsely claimed that modern Palestinians are not indigenous and cites a Haaretz obituary article to prove it. The article never says those words. This is a clear example of biases that should be taken care of — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lifeisgood12345 (talk • contribs) 06:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 December 2023
Change “a controversial book that wrongfully claimed that modern Palestinians were not indigenous to Palestine” to “a book that examines the lack of evidence as to Palestinian claims of being indigenous to Israel.” 2601:282:1E80:1680:78CF:B8BB:95C6:931C (talk) 03:32, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. M.Bitton (talk) 20:25, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, this a change that must be made. It is "wrongful" to state that the book wrongfully claims anything if the actual wikipedia page on the book itself shows that her reception of her book is quite mixed. 204.128.182.35 (talk) 14:33, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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Steve Tasker

Steven Jay Tasker (born April 10, 1962) is an American sports reporter and former football wide receiver in the National Football League (NFL). He spent the majority of his career with the Buffalo Bills but began his career with the Houston Oilers. He was a five-time first-team All-Pro and a seven-time Pro Bowl selection, primarily as a special teams player.

Tasker played college football at Dodge City Community College in Kansas before playing for the Northwestern Wildcats. He was selected in the ninth round of the 1985 NFL Draft by the Oilers. Tasker played most of his pro career with Buffalo, and was voted by Bills fans to the team's 50th season All-time Team. After retiring from playing, he has worked as a reporter, currently serving locally in Western New York on the MSG Western New York cable TV station, and on WGR Radio and formerly for CBS Sports.

In 2008, the NFL Network show NFL Top 10 ranked Tasker the ninth-best former player not enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He has several times been a nominee for the Hall, making the semi-finalist list eight times, but has not been selected as a member as of 2024.

College career
Tasker first attended Dodge City Community College. After two years, he transferred to Northwestern University where he played the final two years of his college career before joining the National Football League. Tasker finished his college career with 1,055 combined return yards from punts and kickoffs, averaging 10.8 yards per punt return. After finishing his college football career, and before being drafted into the NFL, he joined the school's rugby team. Although he had never played rugby before, he was named most valuable player at the Big Ten Conference Tournament. Tasker continues to hold the Northwestern Wildcats football career record for kickoff return average (24.3).

Professional football career
Tasker was selected in the ninth round (226th overall) of the 1985 NFL Draft by the Houston Oilers where he played for two seasons. He was claimed off waivers by the Buffalo Bills on November 8, 1986.

Tasker was listed as a wide receiver, however, most of his playing time came as a gunner, on punts and kickoffs. After he joined the Buffalo Bills, he began to play at wide receiver more than with the Oilers. While he performed very well as a receiver when Buffalo needed his services there, the combination of excellent Bills depth at that position, his value as a special teams playmaker, and Tasker refusing to demand more playing time on offense kept his WR time very slight.

Still, Tasker did make contributions at the more traditional role on offense and special teams. In a 1994 playoff game against the Los Angeles Raiders, he set up the Bills first touchdown with a 67-yard kickoff return. He also caught 5 passes for 108 yards and a touchdown in Buffalo's 1995 playoff win against the Miami Dolphins.

Play as gunner
Tasker stood 5 ft tall and weighed 180 lb; when he joined the Bills, Jim Haslett did not think that he was a player. Tasker recalled, "I told him not to worry because I was mistaken for a ball boy all the time". Despite his small size, he gained a reputation as one of the league's most feared hitters, forcing numerous fumbles. Contributing to his success in breaking up kick and punt returns was his speed; he was almost always the first player to reach the return man. He was the first player to establish himself as a star almost exclusively through special teams play without being a kicker or a frequent returner. Tasker played in seven Pro Bowls (1987 and 1990–1995) and became the only special teamer ever to be named the game's MVP in 1993.

 * 204 special teams tackles
 * 7 blocked punts
 * 7-time Pro Bowl selection
 * Only special teams player ever elected Pro Bowl MVP
 * Was voted one of 26 players by the Pro Football Hall of Fame in the year 2000 as "The Best of the Best ALL TIME Players in the History of the Game"

Many, including former teammate and Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly, consider him to be the greatest special teams player of all-time and believe that he should be in the Hall of Fame. He was ranked No. 9 on the NFL Network's NFL Top 10 Players Not in the Hall of Fame.

Sportscasting career
Tasker was a color commentator for CBS football telecasts with Andrew Catalon (play-by-play) and Steve Beuerlein (the other color commentator) starting in 2014. CBS did not renew his contract at the end of the 2018 season. He also does color commentary for the local broadcasts of Bills pre-season games, teaming with either his former broadcast partner Andrew Catalon or Rob Stone. He is also the spokesperson for the West Herr Auto Group. Tasker was on the sidelines with Jim Nantz and Phil Simms during the playoffs until 2013. He also worked with Don Criqui (Criqui, himself a Buffalo native, and Tasker were assigned to the majority of Bills games from 1999 to 2005) and was best known working with Gus Johnson in 1998, week 13 in 1999, week 5 in 2004, and from 2005 to 2010. Johnson left for FOX Sports the following year. He and Johnson called the David Garrard game winning Hail Mary touchdown pass for the Jacksonville Jaguars' win over the Houston Texans in 2010. CBS dismissed Tasker prior to the 2019 season as they chose not to renew his contract.

On September 9, 2007, Tasker became the 24th person inducted to the Bills' Wall of Fame.

On November 22, 2011, Tasker was named one of the semifinalists in balloting for the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio.

On September 28, 2013, his son, Luke Tasker, made his Canadian Football League debut with the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, in a home game against the Calgary Stampeders. Luke Tasker also became a broadcaster during and after his playing career, becoming the Tiger-Cats' color commentator.

In April 2018, Tasker became co-host of One Bills Live, a daily weekday radio show focusing on the Buffalo Bills alongside Chris Brown on WGR and MSG Western New York. He served as the color commentator and analyst for the Buffalo Bills Radio Network in 2020 alongside John Murphy after Eric Wood opted out of the season due to traveling difficulties associated with the coronavirus pandemic.

Personal life
Steve is married with five children. His son Luke, played wide receiver in the Canadian Football League. They reside in East Aurora, New York.

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Paul Lim
As specified, quite insignificant and not encyclopaedic. Furthermore, it quotes directly from the Raffles Institution article which makes it quite redundant. - fiveless 14:12, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * And no improvement. Delete. --Wikimol 16:42, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is certainly not encyclopedic. Tomato 23:24, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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Your edits on Campus SuperStar
Hi Sfrantzman, Cleanup on Campus SuperStar are reverted by some users who claimed that these edits are 'disturbing' to them. I have been trying to clean up on the article too but seems to receive attacks. Could you also share you thoughts on the cleanup of Campus SuperStar on its talk page? Cocoma 15:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Chili/Chile Powder
It definitely has the signs of a joke article that is there just to confuse. Regardless, I don't know one way or another. I suppose it was a good idea to merge it, until new, verifiable evidence comes through and proves the article true or false.

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David Yudelman
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Maurice Benayoun
I just did some work on this article, but I should have looked in more detail at the history before, rather than after doing so. I removed the multiple headings as part of a cleanup, and I can see that you had added them in for same reason! Many apologies. I'll have another look at the article structure.--Ethicoaestheticist 12:20, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

W.R. Grace and Company
If William Russell Grace died in 1904, and J. Peter Grace was born in 1913, how could this statement be true:

 * "During the Second World War Peter Grace, W.R. Grace's son took control of the company."

Cryogenic freezing?

Your query about citations
Hi. Got your e-mail requesting information and help. Citations on Wikipedia are something I struggle with even as a veteran user. Believe me, there really needs to be better documentation about it. On the bright side, a good starting point is Citing_sources. It has some good advice and links to other pages that will help. At the bottom in the list of links are links to citation templates. I try to use some of them, but it really ends up being a exercise in frustration. Your best bet is to use that page as a resource, and also take a look at the well sourced pages and Good Articles (that is, the source code of them) as examples of what to do. Best of luck! --Lendorien 05:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

List of massacres
The recent discussions about this page are in Talk:List of events named massacres/Archive 3 and a more shorter version of the same debate can be seen at Articles for deletion/List of massacres. The trouble we have had is that there is no tight definition for the word massacre, so anyone can call any killing of two or more people a massacre. But as the word has connotations of a morally bad thing to do it tends to be used as terrorism is used (see WP:words to avoid).

So rather than try to define what a massacre is the way the list is now being developed is only to include incidents that are documented in verifiable third party reliable sources. As the introduction now says accusations of massacre as often tell you as much about the accuser as the accused.

I removed the old list because it was full of original research it is still available at User:Philip Baird Shearer/List of massacres so that anyone who wishes to lookup old list as an aid memoir, but please do not import any events into the new list unless you can finds verifiable third party reliable sources that specifically state that an event was a massacre. There is no reason why other sources can not be added to the description of the event to cover specific details, but the drive is only to include incidents that are claimed to be massacres by reliable sources. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 16:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh yes the reason the list is still small is because it is very new see List of massacres Revision as of 07:51, 16 December 2007 --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 16:44, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Just so I understand. Are you intending to only include incidents that are known as a "massacre" in a third party text?  This would include well known massacres such as the Sand Creek Massacre and I assume incidents such as the Sicilian Vespers which is known as a massacre(www.britannica.com/eb/article-9067619/Sicilian-Vespers).  Can we also include on the list massacres that appear elsewhere in Wikipedia with the word 'Massacre' in the headline, such as the Sharpeville massacre?Seth J. Frantzman  11:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I do not own the article. But I have worked on it on and off for several years. What was discussed on the talk page was that as there is no clear definition of what a massacre is. To appear in the list it must have a verifiable source. This means that not only must the source exist it must be reliable. Taking the Sand Creek Massacre as an example.

 * 1) I moved the first instance to the talk page because I was not sure that the source was an official university page. The person who found the page was free to discuss it on the talk page and convince other editors that it is.
 * 2) I tagged the second one (Staff. The Crow Creek Massacre | www.nebraskastudies.org ) with verify credibility because the source may be more reliable than the first one, but if no other source was found after a day or so it should be removed.
 * 3) But the new source (Heather Pringle, Crow Creek's Revenge, Science, 27 March, 1998) in my opinion meets the requirements. So I will not delete the article.

The citation must come from a reliable third party source. A Wikipedia link is not a reliable source. So the name of a wikipedia article is not sufficient to include it in the list of massacres there also has to be a reliable third party source. See also WP:PSTS, encyclopaedia articles are tertiary source, If a massacre is notable there ought to be some secondary sources that call it that and can be used to support the tertiary source. There is no reason why tertiary sources should not be used to provide extra details, but I think the substantial claim must come from a secondary sources. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 14:10, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I have deleted the article you created called All massacres because it was a POV fork of List of massacres. Do not recreate it under that name or another name, but please do contribute to further development of the List of massacres article. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 23:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

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Letter of British Jews on 60th anniversary of Israel
I see you have attempted to make the article Letter of British Jews on 60th anniversary of Israel less POV. I think that that task is impossible. The sole existence of this article is POV. It seems to be an excuse to state controversial statements like: 'they cannot celebrate the birthday of a country "that even now engages in ethnic cleansing, that violates international law, that is inflicting a monstrous collective punishment on the civilian population of Gaza, and that continues to deny to Palestinians their human rights and national aspirations."', as fact when they are only opinion. Thanks for tagging it. I am sure it will be resolved soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jason.Schwartz (talk • contribs) 01:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Defense of Ein Rafa
Greetings Sfrantzman! Thanks for defending Ein Rafa's existence on Wikipedia. That could've potentially caused a chain-reaction which would involve village articles I created in the past, particularly Sheikh Danun and Kammaneh. Oh, and thanks for expanding the article's content as well. Cheers! --Al Ameer son (talk) 03:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I do not know much about these villages, especially the Bedouin ones in the Galilee. Lately I've been concentrating on Arab towns and villages in the West Bank and the history of Nablus' and Bethlehem's families as well as the al-Husayni clan of Jerusalem. I'm not a researcher (just a junior in high school), however, I have a great interest in these subjects. Most of my knowledge comes from online resources. The source I used for Kammaneh awhile back was . As for my family history, all I know is that my great paternal grandfather migrated with his two brothers and their families from the Mandeb neighborhood in Aleppo to Majd al-Krum. My father's family is still quite small (about 250 members at most). My mother's family came from Gaza to Kafr Yasif over 100 years, but her family is gigantic, probably the largest or second largest Muslim family in the religiously mixed town of Kafr Yasif. --Al Ameer son (talk) 20:25, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Hi. I've nominated Mennonites in Mexico, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know, where you can improve it if you see fit. --D tbohrer talk• contribs 03:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

ThanksSeth J. Frantzman (talk) 14:38, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Srebrenica Genocide Denial
Dear Seth J. Frantzman, I read your reviews on amazon and I was shocked to hear that you are Srebrenica genocide denier. Professor Barry Lituchy, who wrote books on Jasenovac, is a Serbian propagandists who denied genocide of Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims) in Jasenovac concentration camp. You may read about him here. Have you properly researched the involvement of Serbian Chetniks in extermination of Jews in Yugoslavia? Serbs portray themselves as the major Balkan victims of the Second World War, but conceal the Chetnik collaboration with Nazi fascists, including systematic genocide that they had committed against several peoples, including the Bosniaks and Jews. I have spoken about it on my [blog here. You can regain your credibility only if you stop denying genocide. [[User:Bosniak|Bosniak]] (talk) 00:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Response to Seth
Dear Seth, what happened to Jews was worse than genocide, and many people don't realize this fact. There is a difference between genocide and holocaust. Holocaust is a combination of genocides which resulted in 6 million Jews murdered by Nazi fascists. Holocaust is worse than genocide. Having said that, genocide is not about numbers. Please read my reasoning here http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.com/2008/08/can-genocide-be-committed-by-letting.html I am very thankful to you for responding to my message. Bosniak (talk) 04:22, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Shehita
The first link that you put in on the discussion page as it stands at present to article Shehita does not work. Regards RPSM (talk) 21:51, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Shehita
The first link on the discussion page to article Shehita as it stands at present (author:you) does not work. [] Regards RPSM (talk) 21:52, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Modest proposal
I am inviting partners to develop messages reflecting the decency of people like Ferenc Deak, John Rawls, and perhaps Plekhanov....

Your articles in the Jerusalem Post and in your blog are a solid starting line... —Preceding unsigned comment added by S4200 (talk • contribs) 01:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

i wonder
can you spell narcissism? rmakleff@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.86.95 (talk) 10:39, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

LOL
http://opiniojuris.org/2009/09/22/the-worst-anti-icc-editorial-ever/

Response: I thought this was funny too, I am proud. I guess the article must have angered the International Law religion beleivers and thus rather than being the "worst", it must in fact have had much to say in its critique. Seth J. Frantzman (talk) 13:31, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

That is incredibly faulty reasoning, simply because something provokes a reaction does not mean that it had anything to say. I might get annoyed with someone, erroneously, trying to convince me that a rock is in fact a living organism. I might get annoyed at their stupidity. Therefore their critique of the current perception of rocks as inanimate objects must have something to it and rocks probably are living organisms...... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.135.68 (talk) 10:27, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

amazon review of annihilating difference
I was unable to post the following because im a uk amazon user but i read your review and would like to take issue with some of your analysis:

Firstly let me just say I think it is a very good book, in particular the chapter on Rwanda by Taylor. However, I think one must remember that the book is a series of anthropological studies and as such an attempt to try and get at the heart of what motivates genocide by approaching it from different instances. I think it does this very well, of course Genocide isn't war and the writer doesn't claim that it is entirely, social phenomena are incredibly difficult to distinguish and often have common roots - particularly when it comes down to violence- maybe you should re-read that chapter. Also any suggestion that what occurred in Bosnia was not genocide shows a blatant ignorance of the meaning of the word - Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group. Simply because an example of Genocide doesn't appear in this book doesn't mean the book is bad or ill-informed, maybe it's not just relevant or there isn't enough information to make it useful to the overall considerations of the book.

My thoughts exactly
Another editor who disagreed with notability actually did some clean up that was pretty cool. Much of the coverage addressing notability was controversial so it did look like it could turn into an attack piece down the road. It is easy enough to modify and bring back if you pop up more in reliable sources. You hopefully have a log career in front of you so maybe in th future. I actually wasn't the person who started it, but I assume he will be keeping an eye out. He is a decent guy from the editing I have done with him so would expect it to not be a negative article -- none on Wikipedia are supposed to be negative of course. Cptnono (talk) 20:56, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: Seth Frantzman
Hi Seth, I'm glad to hear that you were opposed to having the article on yourself as well. And congratulations on being a columnist! That whole issue was pretty confusing, because your blog has the same name as your column I take it? It was a bit hard to figure out because there hasn't been much written about you (as opposed to by you). Regardless, as I told Cptnono, I think you're on track to become a quite notable (by Wikipedia standards) person one day, at which point you'll probably have an article about you again. I'm hopefully that future editors will be able to keep the malicious material out when that happens. Cheers. ← George talk 21:47, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

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The American Crisis

The American Crisis, or simply The Crisis, is a pamphlet series by eighteenth-century Enlightenment philosopher and author Thomas Paine, originally published from 1776 to 1783 during the American Revolution. Thirteen numbered pamphlets were published between 1776 and 1777, with three additional pamphlets released between 1777 and 1783. The first of the pamphlets was published in The Pennsylvania Journal on December 19, 1776. Paine signed the pamphlets with the pseudonym, "Common Sense".

The pamphlets were contemporaneous with early parts of the American Revolution, when colonists needed inspiring works. The American Crisis series was used to "recharge the revolutionary cause." Paine, like many other politicians and scholars, knew that the colonists were not going to support the American Revolutionary War without proper reason to do so. Written in a language that the common person could understand, they represented Paine's liberal philosophy. Paine also used references to God, saying that a war against Great Britain would be a war with the support of God. Paine's writings bolstered the morale of the American colonists, appealed to the British people's consideration of the war, clarified the issues at stake in the war, and denounced the advocates of a negotiated peace. The first volume famously begins: "These are the times that try men's souls."

Themes
Winter 1776 was a time of need in the colonies, considering Philadelphia and the entire rebel American cause were on the verge of death and the revolution was still viewed as an unsteady prospect. Paine wanted to enable the distraught patriots to stand, to persevere, and to fight for an American victory. Paine published the first Crisis paper on December 19.

Its opening sentence was adopted as the watchword of the movement to Trenton. The opening lines are as follows:

"These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman."

Paine brought together the thirteen diverse colonies and encouraged them to stay motivated through the harsh conditions of the winter of 1776. Washington's troops were ready to quit until ordered by Washington to be read aloud Paine's Crisis paper and heard the first sentence, “These are the times that try men’s souls.” The pamphlet, read aloud to the Continental Army on December 23, 1776, three days before the Battle of Trenton, attempted to bolster morale and resistance among patriots, as well as shame neutrals and loyalists to support the cause:

"Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph."

Along with the patriotic nature of The American Crisis, the series of papers displayed Paine's strong deist beliefs, inciting the laity with suggestions that the British are trying to assume powers that only God should have. Paine saw the British political and military maneuvers in the colonies as "impious; for so unlimited a power can belong only to God." Paine stated that he believed that God supported the cause of the American colonists, "that God Almighty will not give up a people to military destruction, or leave them unsupportedly to perish, who have so earnestly and so repeatedly sought to avoid the calamities of war, by every decent method which wisdom could invent".

Paine goes to great lengths to state that American colonists do not lack force but "a proper application of that force," implying throughout that an extended war could lead only to defeat unless a stable army was composed not of militia but of trained professionals. Paine maintains a positive view overall, hoping that the American crisis could be resolved quickly "for though the flame of liberty may sometimes cease to shine, the coal can never expire. and goes on to state that Great Britain has no right to invade the colonies, saying that it is a power belonging "only to God. Paine also asserts that "if being bound in that manner is not slavery, then there is not such a thing as slavery on earth." Paine obviously believes that Great Britain is essentially trying to enslave the American colonists. He then opines a little about how the panicking of the sudden Revolutionary War has both hindered and helped the colonists.

Paine then speaks of his experience in the Battle of Fort Lee and the colonists' subsequent retreat. Afterward, Paine remarks on an experience with a Loyalist. He says the man told his child, "'Well! give me peace in my day,'" meaning he did not want the war to happen in his lifetime. Paine says that this is very "unfatherly" and the man should want the war to happen in his time so it does not happen in his child's time. Paine then gives some advice on how to do better in the war. Paragraph 1 is about the present. The present is a time to secure the celestial article of freedom and merit the honor of commercial appreciation. Paine encourages the colonists to value victory and its consequent freedom because “the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph”—“what we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly,” he notes, and “ it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.” Crisis No. 1 concludes with a few paragraphs of encouragement, a vivid description of what will happen if colonists act like cowards and give up, and the closing statement, "Look on this picture and weep over it! and if there yet remains one thoughtless wretch who believes it not, let him suffer it unlamented."

Dates and places of publication
The Crisis series appeared in a range of publication formats, sometimes (as in the first four) as stand-alone pamphlets and sometimes in one or more newspapers. In several cases, too, Paine addressed his writing to a particular audience, while in other cases he left his addressee unstated, writing implicitly to the American public (who were, of course, his actually intended audience at all times).

Contents
The first Crisis pamphlet opens with the famous sentence, "These are the times that try men's souls," and goes on to state that Great Britain has no right to invade the colonies, saying that it is a power belonging "only to God." Paine also asserts that "if being bound in that manner is not slavery, then there is not such a thing as slavery on earth." Paine obviously believes that Great Britain is essentially trying to enslave the American colonists. He then opines a little about how the panicking of the sudden Revolutionary War has both hindered and helped the colonists. Paine then speaks of his experience in the Battle of Fort Lee and the colonists' subsequent retreat.

Afterward, Paine remarks on an experience with a Loyalist. He says the man told his child, "'Well! give me peace in my day,'" meaning he did not want the war to happen in his lifetime. Paine says that this is very "unfatherly" and the man should want the war to happen in his time so it does not happen in his child's time. Paine then gives some advice on how to do better in the war. Paragraph 1 is about the present. The present is a time to secure the celestial article of freedom and merit the honor of commercial appreciation. Paine encourages the colonists to value victory and its consequent freedom because “the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph”—“what we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly,” he notes, and “ it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.” Crisis No. 1 concludes with a few paragraphs of encouragement, a vivid description of what will happen if colonists act like cowards and give up, and the closing statement, "Look on this picture and weep over it! and if there yet remains one thoughtless wretch who believes it not, let him suffer it unlamented."

Crisis No. 2, addressed "To Lord Howe," begins, "Universal empire is the prerogative of a writer." Paine makes plain his judgment that Howe was but a sycophant of George III: "Perhaps you thought America too was taking a nap, and therefore chose, like Satan to Eve, to whisper the delusion softly, lest you should awaken her. This continent, Sir, is too extensive to sleep all at once, and too watchful, even in its slumbers, not to startle at the unhallowed foot of an invader." Paine makes it clear that he believes that George is not up to his former standards when it came to his duties with the American colonies. Paine also sheds light onto what he felt the future would hold for the emerging country, "The United States of America, will sound as pompously in the world, or in history [as] the Kingdom of Great Britain; the character of General Washington will fill a page with as much luster as that of Lord Howe; and Congress have as much right to command the king and parliament of London to desist from legislation, as they or you have to command the Congress."

Paine then goes on to try to bargain with George: "Why, God bless me! What have you to do with our independence? we asked no leave of yours to set it up, we asked no money of yours to support it; we can do better without your fleets and armies than with them; you may soon have enough to do to protect yourselves, without being burthened with us. We are very willing to be at peace with you, to buy of you and sell to you, and, like young beginners in the world, to work for our own living; therefore, why do you put yourselves out of cash, when we know you cannot spare it, and we do not desire you to run you into debt?" In the conclusion Paine explains that he considers "independence as America's natural right and interest, and never could see any real disservice it would be to Britain."

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Quentin Jammer

Quentin Tremaine Jammer (born June 19, 1979) is an American former professional football player who played twelve seasons in the National Football League (NFL) as a cornerback for the San Diego Chargers and Denver Broncos, with whom he went to Super Bowl XLVIII. He played college football for the University of Texas where he earned unanimous All-American honors and became a first round draft pick of the San Diego Chargers in the 2002 NFL Draft.

Early life
Jammer was born in Bay City, Texas, and attended Angleton High School. In high school football, he was a two-time all-district safety, cornerback, linebacker, wide receiver, and quarterback as a senior, and was the district's defensive most valuable player. He also won three letters in track and field, and participated in the long jump, 100-meter dash, and the 200-meter dash. In 1997, he was selected for the state all-star football team, which included future San Diego Chargers teammates LaDainian Tomlinson and Drew Brees.

College career
Jammer attended the University of Texas at Austin, and played for coach Mack Brown's Texas Longhorns football team from 1997 to 2001, though he sat out the 1999 season after suffering a shoulder injury in the first game. As a freshman, he played in every game and was a starter by the start of his sophomore year. He was a first-team All-Big 12 Conference selection following his junior and senior seasons, and was recognized as a unanimous first-team All-American as a senior in 2001. He was named team co-MVP his senior year and recorded seven interceptions as well as 195 tackles throughout his collegiate career. He set the school record for pass breakups with 57 and helped the team win the 1999 Cotton Bowl Classic, the 1999 and 2001 Big 12 South Championships and the 2001 Holiday Bowl.

San Diego Chargers
Jammer was selected by the San Diego Chargers with the fifth overall pick in the first round of the 2002 NFL Draft. Due to a holdout to start the 2002 season, he was not ready to make an impact his rookie year and started only four games. The following year, in 2003, Jammer started at the cornerback position. Coming into the NFL, Jammer was touted as being a physical player rather than a finesse cover cornerback. The transition to the NFL was difficult because the physical style of play that brought him so much success in college often resulted in pass interference calls. Jammer led the NFL in pass interference calls in 2004 with eight. Jammer suffered another setback in his development when the NFL made an officiating point of emphasis in 2004 that penalized defensive players for touching receivers further than five yards past the line of scrimmage. In an interview with Rick Gosselin of The Dallas Morning News, Jammer said, "All the rule changes for the offense have altered the game. It's turned football into track with pads. Before you know it, the receivers are going to have a free run at you. You can't touch them at all. The rules got me away from my game," Jammer said. "When physical corners start finessing it, that's not their style."

Jammer was criticized for his lack of interceptions, though he was still considered a valuable part of the team. In 62 career games leading up to the 2006 season, Jammer had only recorded six interceptions, including just two total in the 2004 and 2005 seasons. When the Chargers extended Jammer's contract during the 2006 offseason, Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union Tribune wrote that "... he is widely considered by Chargers fans to be among the team's weak links, mostly for the fact he has just six career interceptions." Acee later wrote of Jammer: "In recent seasons Jammer has been without a doubt the most vilified Charger. It was difficult to tell whether he was disliked (perhaps too mild a term) more for what he did (get called for a lot of penalties) or what he didn't do (make interceptions). It's possible in the past decade there has been only one other Charger (do we really need to say his name?) who drew more wrath from the faithful."

During Jammer's first four years with the Chargers, the team regularly finished at or near the bottom of the league in terms of pass defense. Except for the 2003 season, the team was in the bottom five in terms of pass defense every year from 2002 to 2005. This led many Charger fans to become frustrated with Jammer, as due to his high draft position he became a symbol for the Chargers' failure to assemble a solid secondary. In turn, Jammer was often at odds with fans over their criticisms. In a September 2005 interview, Jammer said of the fans: "Those people are idiots. (They) don't know anything about football...They're not going to bother me." Many fans could often be heard chanting, "Lito, Lito" every time Jammer was beaten by a receiver, a reference to Lito Sheppard, the two-time Pro-Bowl cornerback of the Philadelphia Eagles who was taken after Jammer in the 2002 draft.

In his later years with the team, supporters of Jammer noted that the Chargers had a poor pass defense not because of Jammer, but because of their anemic pass rush. But in 2005, the Chargers had one of the top front 7s in the NFL, featuring Pro Bowler and NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year Award winner Shawne Merriman and Pro Bowler Jamal Williams. Despite this fearsome pass rush, the Chargers still finished 28th in the league in pass defense. A reason for this may be that the 3-4 defense, which the Chargers used under Ted Cottrell, typically has larger, slower players in the front seven than in the respective positions in the 4-3, leaving more pressure on the defensive backs.

During training camp Jammer signed a new five-year contract extension that ran through the 2012 season. The 2006 offseason saw an overhaul of the Chargers' secondary after many disappointing years. The team signed former Carolina Panthers safety Marlon McCree as a free agent, and they spent a first-round draft choice on cornerback Antonio Cromartie. McCree's veteran presence had an immediate impact on the secondary, including Jammer, who surpassed his 2005 interception total in only the third game of the season. Although Jammer only recorded one more interception in the remaining 13 games, the 2006 season was his best and most consistent as a pro. Towards the middle of the season, Jammer showed signs of turning into a shutdown cornerback, and QBs rarely threw at him. He closed out the Chargers 21–14 win over Oakland on November 26 with an interception on the first play after the two-minute warning. He finished the season leading the team in interceptions with 4 and with a career-high in tackles helping the Chargers finished 13th in the league in pass defense.

Jammer critics point to the 3rd and 10, long bomb Reche Caldwell caught in the divisional playoff game against the New England Patriots as a sign that Jammer was still not meeting expectations. Jammer, in blitz-scheme, short area press coverage, was not able to help the defense recover from an ineffective jailhouse blitz and Patriots' quarterback Tom Brady comfortably stepped up in the pocket to loft a deep strike to Caldwell. Despite Brady's completion to Caldwell, Jammer had a strong day limiting Patriot receivers, in the 2007 AFC Championship game against the Patriots, he had an outstanding performance, limiting Randy Moss to 1 reception for 12 yards, and intercepting Tom Brady once.

In week 6 of the 2012 season, Jammer recorded his first interception returned for a touchdown in his career on a pass from Denver Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning.

Denver Broncos
On May 29, 2013, Jammer signed with the Denver Broncos. The Broncos went to Super Bowl XLVIII that year, but Jammer was inactive for that game - a game they lost. The Broncos chose to keep Marquice Cole active instead as Jammer had "struggled down the stretch." Following the season, he became a free agent and, during the following training camp time, Jammer returned to San Diego where he worked out on a full-time basis in the hopes of landing an NFL job for at least one more year, but he wasn't signed by anyone. His last NFL game was the AFC Championship win against New England.

Personal life
Jammer has three sons. His cousins are former NFL players Johnnie Lee Higgins, Cedric Woodard and Darren Woodard. His half-brother is NFL player Quandre Diggs.

Jammer made an appearance on an episode of "E! True Hollywood Story" in 2009. Jammer appeared as himself in Season 13 episode 20, which originally aired on November 18, 2009.

He later went into Jiu-Jitsu and made it to the quarterfinals of the World Master IBJJF Jiu-Jitsu Championship in 2018. He also started his own clothing company.

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Bogyiszló

Bogyiszló is a village in Tolna County in Hungary. Famous for its hot, white-skinned peppers.

Geography
Bogyiszló is located from 11 km east from Szekszárd, in the southern part of Mezőföld, near the Danube river and Sió channel mouth. Approach: from road number 6 from west-direction, or from road number 51 from east-direction, on M9 highway, across the Danube on bridge named after Ladislaus I of Hungary.

History
Based on archaeological finds, Bogyiszló has already been populated area in the ages of Avars.

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Economy
Bogyiszló is an agricultural village. It is known for the Bogyiszló white-skinned pepper. With the eradication of the forest that once covered the floodplain, the area was found to be ideal for growing both sweet, and hot varieties of pepper, as well as the red peppers used in making paprika. The area is also noted for its forestry, fishing, and hunting traditions.

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Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Jelsoft Enterprises

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Sint-Joris-Winge

Sint-Joris-Winge is a village in the Belgian municipality of Tielt-Winge, in the province of Flemish Brabant. As of 2003, it had 2,870 inhabitants.

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Postfeminism

Postfeminism (alternatively rendered as post-feminism) is a term popularized by the mass media to describe an alleged decrease in support for feminism from the 1990s onwards. It can be considered a critical way of understanding the changed relations between feminism, femininity and popular culture. The term is sometimes confused with subsequent feminisms such as fourth-wave feminism, postmodern feminism, and xenofeminism.

Research conducted at Kent State University in the 2000’s narrowed postfeminism to four main claims: support for feminism declined; women began hating feminism and feminists; society had already attained social equality, thus making feminism outdated; and the label "feminist" was disliked due to negative stigma.

History of the term
In 1919, a journal was launched in which "female literary radicals" stated we're interested in people now—not in men and women, that "moral, social, economic, and political standards 'should not have anything to do with sex, that it would "be 'pro-woman without being anti-man, and that "their stance [is called] 'post-feminist.

One of the earliest modern uses of the term was in Susan Bolotin's 1982 article "Voices of the Post-Feminist Generation", published in New York Times Magazine. This article was based on a number of interviews with women who largely agreed with the goals of feminism, but did not identify as feminists.

In the 1990s, the term became popular in academia and the media and was used in both complimentary and dismissive ways. Since then there has been confusion surrounding the intended meaning of "post" in the context of "postfeminism". "Post" offers to situate feminism in history by proclaiming the end of this history. It then confirms feminist history as a thing of the past. However, some claim that it is impossible that feminism could be aligned with "post" when it is unthinkable, as it would be the same as calling the current world a post racist, post-classist, and post-sexist society.

Contemporarily, the term postfeminist is still used to refer to young women "who are thought to benefit from the women's movement through expanded access to employment and education and new family arrangements but at the same time do not push for further political change", Pamela Aronson, Professor of Sociology, asserts.

Other uses
Toril Moi used the term in Sexual/Textual Politics (1985) to advocate a feminism that would deconstruct the binary between equality-based or liberal feminism and difference-based or radical feminism.

In Lacan and Postfeminism (2000), author Elizabeth Wright identified a "positive reading" of postfeminism that, instead of indicating an overcoming of feminism, refers to post-structuralist critiques of second-wave feminism. From a similar perspective, Diane Davis affirmed that postfeminism is just a continuation of what first and second wave feminisms want.

In Feminism: A Beginner’s Guide (2010), Sally Scholz referred to the fourth wave as postfeminism.

Works
In her 1994 book Who Stole Feminism? How Women Have Betrayed Women, Christina Hoff Sommers considers much of modern academic feminist theory and the feminist movement to be gynocentric. She labels this "gender feminism" and proposes "equity feminism"—an ideology that aims for full civil and legal equality. She argues that while the feminists she designates as gender feminists advocate preferential treatment and portray women as victims, equity feminism provides a viable alternative form of feminism. These descriptions and her other work have caused Hoff Sommers to be described as an antifeminist by some other feminists.

Some contemporary feminists, such as Katha Pollitt or Nadine Strossen, consider feminism to hold simply that "women are people." Views that separate the sexes rather than unite them are considered by these writers to be sexist rather than feminist.

Relation to pop culture
Postfeminism has been seen in media as a form of feminism that accepts popular culture instead of rejecting it, as was typical with second wave feminists. Many popular shows from the 1990s and early 2000s are considered to be postfeminist works because they tend to focus on women who are empowered by popular cultural representations of other women. Because of this, postfeminists claimed that such media was more accessible and inclusive than past representations of women in the media; however, some feminists believe that postfeminist works focus too much on white, middle-class women. Such shows and movies include The Devil Wears Prada, Xena: Warrior Princess, The Princess Diaries, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Sex and the City. Many of these works also involve women monitoring their appearance as a form of self-management, be it in the form of dieting, exercise, or—most popularly—makeover scenes.

Postfeminist literature—also known as chick lit—has been criticized by feminists for similar themes and notions. However, the genre is also praised for being confident, witty, and complicated, bringing in feminist themes, revolving around women, and reinventing standards of fiction. Examples can also be found in Pretty Little Liars. The novels explore the complexity of girlhood in a society that assumes gender equality, which is in line with postfeminism. The constant surveillance and self policing of the series' protagonists depicts the performance of heterosexuality, hyperfemininity, and critical gaze forced upon girls. The materialism and performance from the girls in Pretty Little Liars critiques the notion that society has full gender equality, and thus offers a critique of postfeminism.

Criticism
Susan Faludi argues in Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women (1991) that a backlash against second-wave feminism had successfully re-defined feminism through its terms. It was constructed by the media and, without reliable evidence, pointed women's liberation movement as the source of many of the problems alleged to be plaguing women in the late 1980s. According to her, this type of backlash is a historical trend, recurring when it appeared that women had made substantial gains in their efforts to obtain equal rights.

Similarly, Amelia Jones claims that the postfeminist texts which emerged in the 1980s and 1990s portrayed second-wave feminism as a monolithic entity and were overly generalizing in their criticism.

Angela McRobbie suggests that adding the prefix post- to feminism undermined the strides that feminism made in achieving equality for everyone, including women. In McRobbie's opinion, postfeminism gave the impression that equality has been achieved and feminists could now focus on something else entirely. She believed that postfeminism was most clearly seen on so-called feminist media products, such as Bridget Jones's Diary, Sex and the City, and Ally McBeal. Female characters like Bridget Jones and Carrie Bradshaw claimed to be liberated and clearly enjoy their sexuality, but what they were constantly searching for was the one man who would make everything worthwhile.

In an article on print jewelry advertisements in Singapore, Michelle Lazar analyses how the construction of 'postfeminist' femininity has given rise to a neoliberal hybrid "pronounced sense of self or 'I-dentity'". She states that the increasing number of female wage earners has led to advertisers updating their image of women but that "through this hybrid postfeminist I-dentity, advertisers have found a way to reinstall a new normativity that coexists with the status quo". Postfeminist ads and fashion have been criticized for using femininity as a commodity veiled as liberation.

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Steve Atwater

Stephen Dennis Atwater (born October 28, 1966) is an American former football safety who played for the Denver Broncos of the National Football League (NFL). He was an eight-time Pro Bowl selection and two-time Super Bowl champion. Atwater was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame on February 1, 2020.

Atwater and Dennis Smith made up a Broncos secondary that was known for their ferocious hits on opposing players.

Early life
Atwater attended Lutheran High School North in St. Louis, Missouri and was the school's top athlete, playing football, basketball, and track. Atwater was selected all-conference and league Most Valuable Player as an option style quarterback. He credits his coach there, Mike Russell, as serving as a mentor for him both as a football player and becoming an exemplary citizen. Atwater also is sixth on Lutheran North's all-time passing yards in a season with 1,097 yards in his junior year.

College
Atwater signed with the University of Arkansas, where he was moved from quarterback to safety. He was named to the All-Southwest Conference team three times and named as an All-American twice.

During his senior year, Atwater helped the 1988 Arkansas Razorbacks football team finish the season at 10-2 and win the Southwest Conference championship outright, but lost to UCLA and QB Troy Aikman in the 1989 Cotton Bowl Classic on New Year's Day. 1988 bookended his college career since Arkansas also finished 10-2 after beating Arizona State 18-17 in the 1985 Holiday Bowl during Atwater's freshman season.

Helping Atwater's stock as a pro prospect was his appearance in the East-West Shrine Game, where he logged two interceptions. He was also named defensive most valuable player in the 1989 East-West Shrine Game.

He still holds the school record with 14 interceptions in his career.

In 1994, Atwater was named to the Razorback All-Century Team and the All-Decade Team for the 1980s. He was inducted into the University of Arkansas Sports Hall of Honor in 1998.

Professional career
Atwater was selected by the Denver Broncos in the first round (20th overall) of the 1989 NFL draft. New defensive coordinator Wade Phillips employed Atwater close to the line of scrimmage in order to fortify Denver's run defense and he led the team in tackles, finishing with 129 tackles his rookie season. Denver's defense jumped 20 spots to finish 7th against the run and tied for 3rd best in yards per carry with a 3.7-yard average. That same year, Atwater finished 2nd to the Kansas City Chiefs' Derrick Thomas in Defensive Rookie of the Year voting. The additions of rookies Atwater and Bobby Humphrey, along with key free agent signings, helped Denver rebound from 8–8 in 1988 to AFC Super Bowl representative in 1989.

Atwater's second season marked the first of seven consecutive Pro Bowl selections (1990–96), tied for most in franchise history. Over his career, he was selected to the Pro Bowl eight times, second-most in franchise history. Early in his career, Atwater teamed with fellow Broncos safety Dennis Smith to form one of the best safety tandems of their generation. Both would later be inducted into the Broncos Ring of Fame. During his 10-year career in Denver, Atwater started in 155 games, tying him for seventh in franchise history for games started. He also started in 14 post-season games.

One of Atwater's career highlights happened on September 17, 1990, during a Monday Night Football telecast from Mile High Stadium in Denver, Colorado. As Kansas City Chiefs massive 260 lbs. running back Christian Okoye came through a hole in the line of scrimmage, he was met by Atwater. The resulting collision stopped Okoye in his tracks, with Atwater standing over him, taunting the proclaimed "Nigerian Nightmare", while he lay on the ground stunned. His coach Mike Shanahan stated "That's the hit people will remember him for."

In Super Bowl XXXII, he posted one of the better performances by a safety in a Super Bowl and one of the greatest games of his career. In that game, he is credited with six solo tackles, one sack, two passes defensed and a forced fumble. His presence near the line of scrimmage kept the Green Bay Packers' running game in check. His sack and forced fumble resulted in three critical points in the second quarter when the Broncos offense had stalled without star running back Terrell Davis. Near the end of the fourth quarter, the game was tied at 24 and Green Bay had the ball on 3rd down & 8. Atwater knocked down a critical pass on a blitz where the receiver was left wide open, forcing the Packers to punt. Then on Green Bay's final drive, Atwater's vicious hit (which nearly knocked out three players, including Atwater, Packers wide receiver Robert Brooks, and his teammate, Broncos cornerback Randy Hilliard) with less than a minute remaining left the Packers in 4th and 6 situation without any remaining timeouts, due to NFL rules regarding injuries to players in the final two minutes of a game. Many argued that Atwater should have been the MVP of the game and the ensuing article in The Sporting News pictured Atwater and noted the impact of his hits on the game.

Super Bowl XXXII was Atwater's last great game, and 1997 his last great season. In 1998, he was relegated to only playing on 1st and 2nd downs and replaced on 3rd downs. Nevertheless, because of the viewership of the Super Bowl from the previous year, he was voted as an AFC Pro Bowl starter for an eighth and final time. Following the Pro Bowl voting, the Denver Post noted that Atwater's selection to the Pro Bowl was due to his play in the previous year's Super Bowl. Denver went on to win the Super Bowl for a second straight year, marking Super Bowl XXXIII as Atwater's final game with the Broncos.

Atwater left the Broncos following the 1998 season, signing with the New York Jets as a free agent for his final season in 1999. Atwater played for the New York Jets for one season and became a free agent. He called Broncos owner Pat Bowlen, asking him if he could retire as a Bronco. He signed a one-day ceremonial contract with the Broncos before announcing his retirement from football. He thanked several of his coaches, stating "I bleed orange and will always bleed orange and blue." At the time of his retirement, he played in 155 consecutive games with the Broncos. Bowlen called Atwater one of the Broncos' "greatest players".

Legacy
Atwater was inducted to the Broncos' Ring of Fame in 2005. In 2017, Atwater was hired as both an insider for the Broncos' website as well as fan development manager.

Atwater was among 27 modern-era semifinalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame class of 2012. He was one of four previously eligible candidates that made it to the semifinals for the first time. Atwater also made the finalist list for the 2016 and 2020 classes.

After 16 years, Atwater was selected to the 2020 Hall of Fame class on February 1, 2020.

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Simon L. Leis Jr.

Simon L. Leis Jr. (born June 12, 1934 ) is a lawyer and local official from Cincinnati, Ohio. He served as County Prosecutor for Hamilton County (1971–1983), a judge in the Court of Common Pleas (1983–1987), and the county sheriff (1987–2012).

Biography
Leis is the son of Simon Leis Sr., a judge in Common Pleas Court. The younger Leis graduated from St. Xavier High School in 1952. After graduating from Xavier University, he served in the U.S. Marines, then studied law in night courses at the Salmon P. Chase College of Law (now part of Northern Kentucky University). He was admitted to the bar and began the practice of law as an assistant in the prosecutor's office.

In 1971 Simon was appointed County Prosecutor to replace Melvin Reuger, who had resigned to become a judge. He won re-election three times and served until 1983. His term as prosecutor was marked by several events. His 1974 disclosures during a prostitution investigation forced the resignation of City Councilman Jerry Springer (although Springer was elected again and later became mayor).

Leis led two high-profile trials, both times earning a conviction, and both later overturned by appellate courts. In 1976 he convicted Cincinnati's Police Chief, Carl Goodin, for taking kick-backs. In 1977 he convicted Larry Flynt, the publisher of Hustler magazine, on obscenity charges. This second case was the basis for a 1996 movie, The People vs. Larry Flynt, in which his role was played by political operative James Carville.

Leis retired as Hamilton County Sheriff in 2012, and was succeeded by Jim Neil.

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Wieringerwerf

Wieringerwerf is a town in the Dutch province of North Holland. It is a part of the municipality of Hollands Kroon, and lies about 21 km southeast of Den Helder. It is situated in a polder. The elevation of the village is 4 m below sea level. Dikes and pumping engines keep the land dry.

History
In 1936 the construction of the village began, a few years after the reclamation of the polder. Because of an employment project that was subsidised by the state, inhabitants from all over the country came to the Wieringermeer to help build an infrastructure. In only short time houses, shops, churches and schools rose in Wieringerwerf. Near the town a "terp" was built, an artificial hill that could serve as a refuge in case of an eventual bursting of the IJsselmeer dike.

On 1 July 1941 Wieringermeer became an independent municipality. On 29 September of the same year, the first inhabitants of the new land gave a memorial to the new mayor and aldermen. This statue, entitled De Maaier (The Mower), can be found on a square in the town centre. The inscription says: "Here a future was built, keep building." On 17 April 1945 the Germans bombed the dike and within two days the complete polder was all water again (see also inundation of the Wieringermeer). Most inhabitants fled inland to higher ground, but a few found their refuge on the man-made terp. On 11 December 1945 the polder was reclaimed again, so the building of Wieringerwerf could start for a second time. Nowadays, a monument and a deep pool still mark the location of the bursting.

In the decades after the reconstruction Wieringerwerf always had a growing population. Several quarters were built around the town centre. The town is still growing, so the inscription of the statue De Mower still finds a response.

Statistics
In 2001, the town of Wieringerwerf had 5661 inhabitants. The built-up area of the town was 1.36 km2, and contained 2285 residences. The wider statistical area of Wieringerwerf has a population of around 5700.

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