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Talk:Kurt Warner

whats with this?
Patriots coach Bill Belichick, determined to slow down Martz's high-flying, Warner-led attack, blitzed early and often, confusing the normally in-control Warner throughout the game

I removed that, the Patriots barley blitzed at all in that superbowl. they were mearly phyiscal with the recievers at the line and hit them hard when they caught it. The Pats blitzed a lot the first time they met that year and got burned they just played coverage in the superbowl.

First Things First
The caption for the First Things First logo says "The First Things First Foundation is dedicated to impacting lives by promoting christian values, sharing experiences and providing opportunities to encourage everyone that all things are possible when people seek to put first things first." Do we really need this pov pr ad? Aecis AppleknockerFlophouse 17:57, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I second this comment. If Warner supports First Things First then mentioning it in the article with a corresponding hyperlink would be appropriate.  The current advertisement is practically a spinning flaming logo.  Funkyj 23:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Copyright
I've noticed that biographical pieces with a certain tone tend to be copyright violations. --Gbleem 22:43, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Amsterdam
The article doesnt mention when he spent his time with the Admirals? Mattlore 10:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

EVERYTHING?
I'm going to remove this learned-everything-from-Johnathan-Keenum thing. I seriously doubt he really learned "everything''. If it's based on something true and you put it back in, please be more specific.SuperToad64 17:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Something to incorporate
I don't have the time to do it now - but this seems like good information for the article -> http://www.legis.state.ia.us/GA/78GA/Legislation/SR/00100/SR00120/Current.html. it's a bill that was passed to honor warner. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat 09:02, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

NFL Europe
What was his career like over there? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:30, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, short, just one season in spring of 1998. He led the six team league in TDs and yards, and his 7-3 Admirals finished in a three-way tie with two other teams, but they missed the World Bowl. The Rams did not to sent him to Europe again after the 1998 NFL season - that the best players did not return was a rather frustrating feature of the NFLE. -- Matthead  Discuß   01:36, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Matt. Interesting. I added a bit with the source you gave. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Problems
There are some ridiculous things in this article. Here are 3:

1. "Warner is best known for this year's unexpected drive to Super Bowl XLIII with the Arizona Cardinals."

This is just false. He rose to prominence during his stint with the Rams. I assume this was added by someone too young to remember that.

2. "He is the only NFL quarterback in history to accomplish that feat, and only the second other than Dan Marino to do it in his first two NFL starts."

I'm not sure what the second claim in this sentence is supposed to be. Are he and Dan Marino the only two, or is he the second of two people who are not Dan Marino? I assume it's the first thing, but that's not what that bit of English actually means.

3. "Warner is viewed as one of the five best quarterbacks in the Super Bowl Era by most football historians."
 * If you base it on Quarterback rating, Kurt Warner maintains the fifth highest rating in his career among all quarterbacks with a minimum of 1500 attempts, see NFL career passer rating leaders. —ASPENSTI— TALK — CONTRIBUTIONS 04:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I would just tag this as in need of a citation if it weren't so painfully obviously false. I can't find a top 10 list with Warner on it, much less a top 5. (A USA Today list I found didn't have a single vote him in the top 5 of Active QBs, much less the Super Bowl Era.)

I deleted the third thing. Other things should be addressed by more energetic editors. 145.116.8.74 (talk) 23:44, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

3rd quarterback to start in super bowls for different teams?
Earl Morrall DID NOT START for the 1972 Dolphins. He started in most of games during the season due to the injury to Griese. He was replaced in AFC Championship game, and Bob Griese started in his place in the Super Bowl. That makes Kurt Warner the 2nd QB to start Super Bowls for different teams. I fixed this problem —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skw4712 (talk • contribs) 13:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Thanks, Skw4712. You are right, Earl started in the championship game. That makes Warner the 3rd different QB to win championship games with 2 different teams. Beni80 (talk) 05:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

NFL Records
can someone add that Warner now holds the record for most career passing yards in super bowls with 1,219, surpassing Joe Montana's 1,142? Greengrapes (talk) 04:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Correction please
Could someone who can edit this page correct the statement that Kurt Warner's PSA supported embryonic stem cell research. It opposed SCR. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pgakaa (talk • contribs) 02:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Passer Rating Ranking
There seems to be a discrepancy on Warner's place on the Career Passer Rating on his article. The reference in the article links to Pro Football Reference which lists him fourth behing Steve Young, Payton Manning, and Tony Romo. He should technically be listed third, not fourth. The NFL records books state that you need a minimun of 1500 attempts, and Tony Romo's numbers are just shy of that ammount. 2tum (talk) 04:44, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Tony Romo has 1857 attempts to date see: . Pro-football reference is also currently quite out of date. —ASPENSTI— TALK — CONTRIBUTIONS 04:39, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Cheated
Although Kurt Warner only won 1 out of 3 super bowls he should have won all 3. Kurt lost to the Patriots because of the spy gate and he lost to the Steelers because they cheated (everytime Kurt threw a first down the referees always threw a flag). If you ask me Kurt is 3-0 in the superbowl. The K.O. King (talk) 17:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No one asked. Jwalte04 (talk) 17:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

That's why I said IF. The K.O. King (talk) 23:09, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank God no one asked you, that is the most ridiculous statement I've ever read, and I'm a Warner fan. Rkorichard (talk) 02:40, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Indeed. How did the Steelers cheat if the referees threw flags? I'm not a Warner fan or a fan of morons, and this statement proves you just might fit the latter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.114.23.159 (talk) 22:27, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Well, the Steelers didn't cheat, but the referees and John Madden both appeared to be rooting heavily for the Steelers. Dirtiest team in football btw.  It was a bummer. Jrgilb (talk) 05:05, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Misleading titles
I just wanted to point out and explain my editing of two of the sub sections of this article. Typically an NFL season is referred to by the year in which it starts, even though it continues through the new year and into February. Example: the NFL 2009 season will actually end in February 2010. I changed the sub section titles in this article from saying "2009 playoffs" to "2008 post season", as well as the "2010 playoffs" to "2009 post season", respectively to avoid any confusion that these playoff games were part of the 2009 or 2010 season (which hasn't happened yet). They were actually part of the 2008 and 2009 NFL seasons. Thanks! —ASPENSTI— TALK — CONTRIBUTIONS 04:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Not 1, but 2 Cinderella turnarounds
I hope someone can find a reference that makes this point: Twice in Warner's career he joined chronically bad teams and each time he led them to the Super Bowl. It is one of his most notable accomplishments, in my view, and it amplifies his Cinderella story.

The only other QB who has done this even once was Drew Brees last year. For the most part, chronically bad teams have not reached the Super Bowl. Tampa Bay had been chronically bad except for the 5 years before their Super Bowl when they won consistently. New England had an all-time (slightly) losing record before Tom Brady, but they had won consistently in the years leading up to his first SB win, and the team had lost 2 previous SBs.

In Warner's case, the Cardinals had been a notoriously bad team forever. The Rams, by contrast, had been historically successful, except during the 10 terrible years immediately preceding Warner, when they won an average of 4.5 games per year.

It may be a coincidence (or maybe not), but the Rams (Cleveland-LA-St. Louis) and Cardinals (Chicago-St. Louis-Phoenix) are also the only 2 surviving NFL franchises that have moved cities on 2 separate occasions, which is another sign of historical futility. Jrgilb (talk) 13:28, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

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TMI - sports and religion
This is supposed to be an encyclopedic article about a sports personality. Does there really need to be a separate section about this person's religion and does it need to be stretched out with all sorts of personal quotes? Please stick to relevant information! 178.2.23.3 (talk) 17:39, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

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Stats
I think they should be broken out (College, Arena, NFL Europe, NFL). Does anyone object?--MattyMetalFan (talk) 19:09, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

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Spider bite?
The idea that Kurt Warner's tryout with the Bears was hampered by a spider bite seems far fetched. The link to the source [22] is empty. As an experienced ER doc, I know that "spider bites" usually are not spider bites but instead staph infections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.62.149.74 (talk) 19:12, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Playoff stats at end of lead section
The paragraph says Warner leads in completion % and Y/A in the playoffs, however, he's not even close to leading in either of those. And he's like 9th and 16th in those and older players have better so it's not like the stats are outdated. Is there some sort of qualification I'm missing like minimum attempts or games? Bigmoe797 (talk) 21:19, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Y/A playoff career leaders: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_per_att_career_playoffs.htm
 * Cmp % playoff leaders: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_cmp_perc_career_playoffs.htm

Records
Several of the Records seem to be in the wrong section.

i.e. Most touchdown passes in a single postseason is not in the shared section.

Highest completion percentage in a single game is not in the second place section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.151.53.102 (talk) 22:30, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

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/* 2009 season */
On September 20, 2009, Warner broke the NFL's single-game record for completion percentage in the regular season, completing 24 of 26 passing for 243 yards and two touchdowns. Warner's 92.3 percent completion rate broke the previous NFL record set by Vinny Testaverde in 1993. <-- According to Pro-Football-Reference.com, Craig Morton held the record (17/18, 94.44%) until October 29th, 2012 when Alex Smith broke that record (18/19, 94.7%). Without qualifiers (Minimum 300 yards, minimum 20 attempts, minimum 3 touchdowns, etc.), the statement is false. 63.84.4.151 (talk) 17:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

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BLU-109 bomb

The BLU-109/B is a hardened penetration bomb used by the United States Air Force (BLU is an acronym for Bomb Live Unit). As with other "bunker busters", it is intended to penetrate concrete shelters and other hardened structures before exploding. In addition to the US, it is part of the armament of the air forces of Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Israel, Netherlands, Norway, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, United Kingdom and United Arab Emirates.

Design
The BLU-109/B has a steel casing about 1 inch thick, it's warhead filled with 550 lb of Tritonal. It has a mechanical-electrical delayed-action FMU-143 tail-fuze. The BLU-109 entered service in 1985. It is also used as the warhead of some marks of the GBU-15 electro-optically guided bomb, the GBU-24 Paveway III and GBU-27 Paveway III laser-guided bombs, as well as the GBU-31 Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) and AGM-130 air-to-surface missile.

Variants
The BLU-118 is reportedly a thermobaric explosive filler variation on the BLU-109 casing and basic bomb design. It contains PBXIH-135, a traditional explosive.

In 2015 General Dynamics started a $7.2 million development of a version called HAMMER, which is intended to destroy chemical and biological substances by spreading dozens of Kinetic Fireballs Incendiaries (KFI) (not explosions) inside a bunker. The KFIs have evolved out of the Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) program by Exquadrum, Inc. of Adelanto, California.

Operators
The BLU-109 has been sold to key US allies including South Korea, Israel, Greece, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Pakistan and Turkey

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30 Minute Meals

30 Minute Meals is a Food Network television series hosted by Rachael Ray. Her first of four shows on Food Network, its original run aired from November 17, 2001, until May 5, 2012. The show specializes in convenience cooking for those with little time to cook. The show is recorded live-to-tape, with Ray doing almost all preparation in real time. The show was awarded an Emmy for Best Daytime Service Show in 2006.

A common feature on the program is the creation of new versions of classic dishes like clam chowder or macaroni and cheese, some of which are traditionally slow to cook. Ray focuses on creating meals in less than 30 minutes. Ray has also done two specials with the title Thanksgiving in 60, about preparing a Thanksgiving dinner in one hour.

Each episode Ray opens the show by saying "Hi there, I'm Rachael Ray and I make 30-minute meals. Now that means in the time it takes you to watch this program, I will have made a delicious and healthy meal from start to finish."

A 30-episode revival was announced on January 25, 2019 and began airing on April 1, 2019.

About the show
Rachael Ray's 30 Minute Meals, based on the cookbook series, debuted on November 17, 2001, and ended production in 2012, then was revived in 2019. After writing and releasing her cookbook in 1999, Rachael Ray went on NBC's Today to make soup with Al Roker. Two weeks later, she had two pilot shows on TV.

Criticism of the show
Criticism of Rachael Ray's show has been levied despite its successes. Ray had no formal cooking experience, leading to complaints about the appearance of her food.

Charlie Dougiello, Ray's director of publicity stated, "Rachael always says that some of the criticisms of her as a chef are correct. She is not a chef. She whips up meals in a way some chefs would cringe at. If she slips up, she slips up. We don't stop taping. It is just like life."

Books
The TV series has also led to a group of cookbooks.

Since the original 30 Minute Meals: Comfort Foods came out, several other books have also been published:

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The Brethren (Grisham novel)

The Brethren is a 2000 legal thriller novel by American author John Grisham.

Plot
The "Brethren" are three former judges who are incarcerated at Trumble, a fictional federal minimum security prison located in northern Florida. The trio embark on a scam to deceive and exploit wealthy closeted gay men. None of them are gay, but they write convincingly as two young vulnerable gay men, developing friendships and then asking for financial help. In some cases, they also try blackmail.

With the help of their lawyer, Trevor Carson, they transfer their ill-gotten money to a secret Bahamian bank account. Carson takes one-third and employs private detectives to investigate the victims of the scam. This takes over from Carson's normal legal business, which had been making very little money for him.

Meanwhile, Teddy Maynard, the ruthless and soon-to-retire director of the CIA, is orchestrating a scheme to tip the United States presidential election in the favor of Aaron Lake, a hawkish congressman supported by arms manufacturers. However, Lake, who is closeted, is hooked by the unwitting Brethren in their scam. Realizing that Lake stands to be exposed, Maynard scrambles to stop them from finding out the truth. After the Brethren fire Carson, he is killed by CIA agents in the Caribbean.

The CIA plant a man inside Trumble, who tells the Brethren that he knows about the scam. A deal is worked out, money changes hands and the judges are pardoned by the outgoing president at Maynard's insistence. The judges leave the country and travel to Europe, where they later restart the scam. Meanwhile, Lake is elected and Maynard, eager to finish the cover-up, selects for him a suitable First Lady.

Reception
In a starred review, Publishers Weekly highlighted how Grisham is one of "only a few megaselling authors of popular fiction [who] deviate dramatically from formula". In line with this praise, they noted that "Grisham's fans may miss the stalwart lawyer-heroes and David vs. Goliath slant of his earlier work", given the fact that "every personage in this novel lies, cheats, steals and/or kills"; however, they concluded that "all will be captivated by this clever thriller that presents as crisp a cast as he's yet devised, and as grippingly sardonic yet bitingly moral a scenario as he's ever imagined".

The A.V. Club's Tasha Robinson also discussed how "The Brethren presents a curious speed bump in [Grishman's] decade-long ride on literary cruise control", adding that, "most notably, there isn't a single film-friendly hero here".

While Publishers Weekly referred to the plot as "expertly orchestrated and very complex plot", Robinson argued that "Grisham takes his time" connecting seemingly disconnected plot lines, and "even when the book finally coheres, the fireworks are minimal".

Robinson concluded, "The Brethren isn't especially exciting, nor is it especially glib. But it is suspiciously relevant to the current presidential election, as well as a satisfying break from Grisham-as-usual."

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Ralph Plaisted

Ralph Summers Plaisted (September 30, 1927 – September 8, 2008) was an American explorer who, with his three companions, Walt Pederson, Gerry Pitzl and Jean-Luc Bombardier, are regarded by most polar authorities to be the first to succeed in a surface traverse across the ice to the North Pole on April 19, 1968, making the first confirmed surface conquest of the Pole.

Background
Plaisted was a high-school dropout from Bruno, Minnesota, who found success as an insurance salesman. An avid outdoorsman, in the early 1960s he was one of the first Minnesotans to buy a Ski-Doo snowmobile, a then-novel invention of Canada's Bombardier Company, and became a convert and promoter of the machine. In 1965, Plaisted drove his snowmobile 250 mi from Ely to White Bear Lake, Minnesota in one day, which is regarded as the first long-distance snowmobile trek.

Arctic expedition
Plaisted and his friend Art Aufderheide conceived the idea of reaching the North Pole by snowmobile in the spring of 1966, aiming to make the trip the following year. Gordon Mikkelson (1929-1990) helped with snowmobiling and base camp logistics. Customized clothing was assembled for the team, which they tested by sleeping on a frozen lake in northern Minnesota. In April and May 1967, Plaisted's first attempt was thwarted at 83° 20' latitude by storms and open water. The attempt resulted in a CBS-TV documentary To the Top of the World, reported by Charles Kuralt, who accompanied the Plaisted team.

Plaisted returned for a successful attempt the following year in March 1968. Starting at Canada's Ward Hunt Island just a few miles from Peary's start at Cape Columbia on Ellesmere Island, Plaisted began the 412 mi traverse on March 9.

Navigating with a sextant and resupplied when possible with fuel and supplies dropped by a turboprop DeHavilland Twin Otter, the expedition members spent 43 days, 11 hours traveling on the ice before reaching their final camp on the evening of April 19. Navigator Jerry Pitzl made hourly sextant sightings over the next two days to confirm their location. On the morning of April 20, the party journeyed somewhat less than 4 mi to account for ice drift, and signaled a United States Air Force C-135 weather reconnaissance aircraft using a handheld radio. At 10:30 am Eastern Daylight Time, the aircraft, call sign LARK-47, flew overhead confirming the party was exactly at the North Pole. The party was then flown out.

Given the doubts surrounding the North Pole conquest claims of Robert Peary and Frederick Cook, Ralph Plaisted's journey, the Plaisted Polar Expedition, is regarded as the first undisputed surface conquest of the North Pole. Affidavits signed by resupply pilots Welland Phipps and Ken Lee confirm that the expedition did not cover any distance by air.

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John Nathan-Turner

John Turner (12 August 1947 – 1 May 2002), known professionally as John Nathan-Turner, was an English television producer. He was the ninth producer of the long-running BBC science fiction series Doctor Who and the final producer of the series' first run on television (from 1980 until it was cancelled in 1989). He finished the role having become the longest-serving Doctor Who producer and cast Peter Davison, Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy as the Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Doctors, respectively.

Early life
Born John Turner in Birmingham, he adopted the double-barrelled stage name John Nathan-Turner to distinguish himself from the British actor John Turner. He was educated at King Edward VI School, at Aston in Birmingham, where he showed an early interest in acting and theatre. His earliest television acting work was as an extra in TV productions for ITV, including Crossroads and The Flying Swan. Both shows were made in Birmingham (the former at ATV's Aston studios). On leaving school, he initially worked as an actor and assistant stage manager at Birmingham's Alexandra Theatre.

Turner was later taken on by the BBC as a television floor assistant, working on every type of show (from light entertainment to news and current affairs), including–more importantly for his later career–drama. Shows produced by the BBC's drama department that he worked on included The Pallisers, How Green Was My Valley, Angels, and All Creatures Great and Small. An assignment to the BBC's light entertainment department also led to him spending two years working on The Morecambe and Wise Show, prior to the act's move to ITV in 1978.

Doctor Who
Having joined the BBC as a floor assistant in the 1960s, he first worked on Doctor Who in 1969 as part of the floor crew at a time when the series was recorded in Studio D at the BBC's Lime Grove Studios. The first serial he worked on was the Patrick Troughton story The Space Pirates in 1969.

Nathan-Turner worked as an assistant floor manager on two serials in the Jon Pertwee era of Doctor Who: The Ambassadors of Death (1970) and Colony in Space (1971). He later worked on Doctor Who in the Tom Baker era as production unit manager under producer Graham Williams from 1977 to 1979. When Williams decided to leave the show after three seasons and the BBC management's first choice to replace him, George Gallaccio, turned it down, he accepted the post of producer for season 18, which would also become the last to feature Baker as the Fourth Doctor.

Due to Nathan-Turner's relatively young age at 33 and lack of previous experience as a producer, the BBC brought former Doctor Who producer Barry Letts back to the series to act as executive producer for his first season. Nathan-Turner's experience of working with Graham Williams helped form his views on the future direction of the series. He strongly felt that people working on the programme (especially Williams, script editor Douglas Adams and star Tom Baker) had stopped taking the show seriously: it was parodying science fiction, rather than presenting serious storylines. He also believed that Williams had allowed Baker too much influence on the show's direction, rather than confronting Baker over his increasingly comedic acting style. Nathan-Turner, together with new script editor Christopher H. Bidmead, decided Baker's creative influence needed to be reined in.

Nathan-Turner decided on a new broom approach, and instituted sweeping changes: replacing the arrangement of the theme music which had run throughout the 1970s with a more contemporary electronic arrangement by Peter Howell, and introducing revamped opening titles (featuring a new photograph of Baker, replacing the original taken in 1974) and a new closing credit sequence. Nathan-Turner also dispensed with the services of long-time composer Dudley Simpson, who had provided the incidental music for the majority of the Doctor Who serials of the 1970s and all of the Williams era stories. With Simpson departed, the Doctor Who incidental music under Nathan-Turner's stewardship would be provided by electronic composers including Peter Howell, Paddy Kingsland, Malcolm Clarke, Roger Limb, Jonathan Gibbs, Keff McCulloch, and Mark Ayres.

As Nathan-Turner had no writing or script-editing experience, the choice of the stories for production was largely left to Bidmead. This at once led to difficulties, with the second story to enter production, Meglos (1980), suffering from all the problems which Nathan-Turner had identified in the show's scripts under Graham Williams (a lack of realism, an over indulgence in comedy). Nathan-Turner's first major story influence was in bringing back the Master, but the details of this he left to Bidmead. At the end of Nathan-Turner's first season in charge, both Bidmead and Letts left their posts on the series along with Tom Baker, and Lalla Ward, who had played companion Romana, also left partway through the season in Warriors' Gate (1980). Letts was not replaced, leaving Nathan-Turner as sole producer. Nathan-Turner cast Peter Davison as the Fifth Doctor for season 19, having previously worked with him on All Creatures Great and Small. Bidmead was briefly replaced with Antony Root, then more permanently with Eric Saward, who would work as script editor (and occasional writer) of the series from 1982 until 1986.

After Nathan-Turner brought the Master back for three consecutive stories, The Keeper of Traken (1981), Logopolis (1981) and Castrovalva (1982, now played on a regular basis by Anthony Ainley), he believed that the show could benefit from the publicity inherent in bringing back popular characters and monsters from its past. Earthshock (1982) enjoyed considerable publicity from featuring the return of the Cybermen, after an absence of seven years. Season 20 then saw the return of Omega, the Mara, the Black and White Guardians (from the Key to Time season), and Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart. The Daleks and Davros also returned in Resurrection of the Daleks (1984), but the re-use of classic villains often proved complex for script editor Eric Saward and the show's writers. Nathan-Turner, however, was largely focused on generating publicity for the series, something which he also achieved by the device of casting high profile, well-known actors (sometimes from the world of light entertainment) as guest stars.

Nathan-Turner rarely used directors or writers who had worked for previous producers. The few exceptions were director Pennant Roberts (who directed Warriors of the Deep and Timelash), and the writers David Fisher (who wrote The Leisure Hive), Terrance Dicks (who wrote State of Decay and "The Five Doctors"), and Robert Holmes (who wrote The Caves of Androzani, The Two Doctors, The Mysterious Planet and the first episode of The Ultimate Foe).

By coincidence, Nathan-Turner's tenure occurred during a period of large growth in the show's fan base in the United States, thanks to repeated showings there of the Tom Baker serials on affiliates of the American Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) network. Nathan-Turner became a familiar face among the many Doctor Who celebrities who made appearances during PBS fundraising drives, held to finance the purchase of more Doctor Who serials for screening in the United States.

In addition to his work on the television series, for some years during the Eighties Nathan-Turner's interest in light entertainment led to him producing an annual Christmas Pantomime, at the Tunbridge Wells Theatre, starring the incumbent Doctor and other members of the cast. The first of these, in December 1982, starred Peter Davison and co-starred Anthony Ainley (the Master) and the actress Sandra Dickinson (who at that time was Davison's wife, but later guest starred in Doctor Who with Jon Pertwee, on Ghosts of N-Space).

During his time producing Doctor Who, Nathan-Turner wrote two books about the programme, Doctor Who: The TARDIS Inside Out (1985) and Doctor Who: The Companions (1986).

Contentious decisions
Criticism of his production decisions was wide-ranging, from employing too many back-references (thereby limiting the scriptwriters, and confusing the casual viewer), to employing excessive violence in Colin Baker's 1985 season, to his hostility to using writers and directors from the show's past, and in the casting of guest stars best known for roles from light entertainment rather than from drama (including Rodney Bewes, Beryl Reid, Richard Briers, Ken Dodd and Hale and Pace). Patrick Mulkern of Radio Times argued that "John Nathan-Turner should be applauded for enticing big-name guest stars and his 'stunt casting' of actors in wildly inappropriate roles often pays off", although he cited Briers as an example who was "shockingly bad".

He was criticised for the casting of companions purely as gimmicks: the character Tegan Jovanka (an Australian air-stewardess played by Janet Fielding) was introduced solely to curry favour with viewers in Australia; whilst Peter Davison reported that the American character Peri Brown (played by Nicola Bryant) was introduced only in an attempt to endear the show to American viewers. Davison has said Nathan-Turner's decision to introduce an American companion merely to appeal to the American market was one of his reasons for leaving the show, as he felt it was wrong for the series, but led to his realising that – despite being its star – the direction of the series was out of his control, and he could do nothing about decisions he disagreed with.

In 1985, BBC1 controller Michael Grade enforced an 18-month hiatus on Doctor Who, publicly criticising the series as tired, violent and unimaginative. In 1986, after the series had returned (with fewer episodes in the season), Grade insisted that Nathan-Turner replace the actor he had cast as the Sixth Doctor, Colin Baker, as a condition of it continuing. According to an interview with Peter Davison in 2018, Baker was "the victim" because "the power structure in the BBC had changed and they didn't want John Nathan-Turner around."

Nathan-Turner also received criticism from his former executive producer, Barry Letts, for introducing the question mark motif on Tom Baker's costume. Peter Davison, Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy all said they were not happy with their wardrobe in the series. Davison disliked what he considered the "designer look" of his cricket attire; Baker didn't approve of the tasteless multi-coloured outfit he was given (as he detailed in the documentaries The Story of Doctor Who and Trials and Tribulations); while McCoy was dissatisfied with his pullover being covered in question marks, which he found "overstated". Writing for The Guardian, Tim Dowling thought it "certainly undermined a lot of his darker scenes".

Eric Saward, who joined Doctor Who as script editor in season 19 (1982), had a tumultuous working relationship with Nathan-Turner and quit the programme during production of season 23 (1986). In September 1986, an interview with Saward was published in issue No. 97 of Starburst magazine in which Saward voiced scathing criticism of Nathan-Turner.

Nathan-Turner's casting decisions for the central role of the Doctor have also been criticised. Former script editor Terrance Dicks said of the three actors he cast: "The magic wasn't quite there." Former producer Philip Hinchcliffe stated that, following Tom Baker's departure, the series "became a bit pantomime for me" and that Baker's successors lacked the "moral conviction" the earlier actors brought to the role. Eric Saward disagreed with the casting of Colin Baker in particular, saying he lacked "the energy and eccentricity that the part calls for", and complained that Nathan-Turner hadn't discussed casting decisions with him. Saward was also unhappy with the casting of Bonnie Langford as Mel Bush, saying: "I don't think she can act, let alone bring anything to the show."

Terrance Dicks was particularly scathing of Nathan-Turner's production of Doctor Who during an interview in 2013: "There was a decline, without a doubt. I think the people working on it, particularly John Nathan-Turner, were not fit for purpose, as it were. Colin Baker, for example, never got a chance with that silly costume, which I thought was a great shame. I was sorry, but I wasn't surprised when they took it off." Composer and audio engineer Mark Ayres made an impassioned defence of Nathan-Turner on the DVD commentary for The Greatest Show in the Galaxy, stating: "John gets a lot of criticism as a producer but he was absolutely fantastic in giving people a chance: new writers, new composers, new actresses. And a lot of what John did didn't work, let's be honest, but when it does work I think you get something really quite special."

Later career
After the series ended in 1989, and until shortly before his death, Nathan-Turner continued to be involved in Doctor Who-related events, and remained a familiar face at conventions for many years afterwards.

In the early 1990s, while working for BBC Video, Nathan-Turner produced and wrote several Doctor Who videotape documentary releases: The Hartnell Years, The Troughton Years, The Pertwee Years, The Tom Baker Years, The Colin Baker Years, Daleks: The Early Years, Cybermen: The Early Years, and a special release of the unfinished story Shada with Tom Baker doing first person linking narration as the Fourth Doctor in place of the missing scenes.

Also during the early 1990s, Nathan-Turner produced the earliest Doctor Who commercial releases on audio cassette, for the BBC Radio Collection, creating narrated adaptations of television serials for which only the soundtrack remained. In these, he mixed the surviving soundtrack with a narration (written by himself) explaining the missing pictures, using as narrator actors who had played the Doctor. As Patrick Troughton had died in 1987, Nathan-Turner contracted Jon Pertwee (for The Tomb of the Cybermen), Tom Baker (for The Evil of the Daleks), and Colin Baker (for The Macra Terror) to narrate Troughton-era stories which, at the time of the link narration recordings, were all missing from the BBC's television archives except for episode 2 of The Evil of the Daleks. Nathan-Turner left his roles at BBC Video and the BBC Radio Collection at the end of 1992.

Nathan-Turner co-presented the BSB 31 Who programmes during their 1990 Doctor Who Weekend, and co-wrote the 1993 charity special Dimensions in Time for the show's 30th Anniversary. Nathan-Turner made his final contribution to Doctor Who in March 2002, six weeks before his death, when he gave his final interview on a location visit to what was used during the Resurrection of the Daleks recordings in 1983. This last interview from March 2002 first appeared on the November 2002 original DVD release of Resurrection of the Daleks.

Personal life
A long term drinker and smoker, Nathan-Turner was in poor health in the last years of his life. He contracted an infection and died in hospital on 1 May 2002, aged 54. Nathan-Turner lived for many years in London, with a home also in Saltdean, Brighton.

Openly gay, he was survived by his long-term partner, Gary Downie, who was also a BBC employee (ultimately becoming a production manager with BBC Television). They met in 1972, and worked together on All Creatures Great and Small, where Nathan-Turner was Production Unit Manager (Downie was the Assistant Floor Manager at BBC Pebble Mill on series 3), and on Doctor Who. Downie, who was born Roderick Pinkus in South Africa in 1940, died on 19 January 2006. He spoke of his life with Nathan-Turner in an interview with Doctor Who Magazine.

Richard Marson's book, JN-T: The Life and Scandalous Times of John Nathan-Turner (2013), alleges inappropriate sexual behaviour on the part of Nathan-Turner and Downie by stating that the two men were preying on male teenage fans during the 1980s, including making unwanted advances to himself. The age of consent for gay men at the time was 21 in the UK, compared to 16 for heterosexual relationships.

Books

 * Doctor Who – The TARDIS Inside Out (May 1985, Picadilly Press Ltd., by John Nathan-Turner and illustrated by Andrew Skilleter, Paperback; October 1985, Random House Children's Books (library), Hardback)
 * Doctor Who: The Companions (November 1986, Picadilly Press Ltd., by John Nathan-Turner and illustrated by Stuart Hughes, Paperback; January 1987, Random House Children's Books (library), Hardback)
 * JN-T: The Life and Scandalous Times of John Nathan-Turner By Richard Marson ISBN 9781908630131 (May 2013, Miwk Publishing Ltd.)

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Talk:GeForce 6 series

FX6800 GTO specifications
I think someone forgot to include the GeForce FX6800 GTO specifications.

 * Firefox: Yeah, sorry, forgot to add that when I added all the others. Also, it's not the GeForce FX 6 series, it's just 6 series, the FX was the last series.

Why changing Megabyte to Mebibyte?
Psxer, why'd you change all references of Megabyte to Mebibyte?

6600 < 6610 x1 < 6600gt
Of note is that the 6610 xl is between the 6600 and 6600gt in terms of performance and gaming power -Swinger222

6100 and 6150
a section needs to be added detailing nvidias new 6100 and 6150 intergrated solutions based on the 6000 series -Mirddes 04:55, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

What is MiB?
About the 6800 XT, what in the world is MiB? "(128MiB DDR, 256 MiB DDR, 128 MiB GDDR3, and 256 MiB GDDR3)"

 * MiB means mebibyte, i.e. 1048576 bytes. 78.3.126.223 (talk) 13:21, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Please include the available memory configurations
Need to include the available memory configurations for all (ie. 6800 GT comes with 128MB or 256MB).

Overclocking in 6800 GT
Need to add that there's a 6800 GT Overclocked (which isn't the GTO).

600USD?!
6800Ultra Extream edition costs 600USD?! 7800 GTx only costs about 500USD, 6800 ultra extraem is better than 7800GTX? -unsigned comment

 * Well, this brings up a good question, should we even bother listing MSRP on here? I don't really see a point, considering how volatile prices in this industry can be... something to think about. Themindset 02:01, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

 * From what I've heard, the 6800UE was a press edition, and was at the official lauch never an official Nvidia product. Some manufacturers did launch their own Ultra Extreme cards, but as far as I know they were never endorsed by nVidia themselves.

MSRP
Should we list the MSRP of video cards? The comment above makes a good point: the price of video cards change so dramatically that it is difficult to give accurate figures. When the 6800 Ultra Extreme came out it cost over five hundred dollars; since then, I have seen it priced as low as 300 dollars.

 * They have also been replaced by much more advanced cards now, for 300US you can get a 7900 GT which quite a ibt more powerful. Coldpower27 21:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

major cleanup
I did a major cleanup, now all the different chips are properly titled, and i've added info on the 6800GS and 6800XT, both due out on monday november 7 2005. This article needs more grammar/typo work, but I've done my bit for today. Themindset 01:58, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm trying to figure out the specs for an XFX 6800XT card, which apparently only NewEgg is selling at the moment (item N82E16814150122). Despite what the article currently says, the 6800XT is definitely not an AGP card.  Specs on NewEgg say 8 pipes, but no description of the core clock or RAM clock.  XFX's site isn't much help.  An article on The Register says that the 6800XT was intended mainly as an OEM part, but it's obviously hitting the mainstream market now.  Someone should update/fix the 6800XT section. Dave 23:23, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

6800 GS in AGP?
I have been hearing a lot of rumors about whether the geforce 6800 GS and apperently it is, but could someone clear this up for me. Heres the link where I heard the rumor:  fatmcguire 20:26, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

It's best not to add anything to the article until something firm comes through. There is a 6800XT AGP card though. Also, could you please sign your comments with four tildes, like this: ~ ? Themindset 03:30, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

I have a AGP 6800GS with 512Mb of Video memory, it doesn't have a Heatsink/fan at the moment, but I'll get a photo for you. (Pictures Here and here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.181.183.191 (talk) 07:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Needs a table
I know everyone has their opinions, but I've consistently advocated WIKI should NOT be a technical specification database. There should be narrative and explanation i.e. something the casual viewer can read and understand, that illuminates the technology in some manner. I think the long chip lists should be consolidated into more space efficient, and enlightening, comparative tables, as already seen on GeForce_7_Series page. Timharwoodx 12:06, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Purevideo and AGP 6800
Enough of the subterfuge/suspicions. NVidia's website has a Purevideo Product Comparison table. It has been there for a while. It clearly shows the AGP6800 family does NOT have WMV9+H264 acceleration. No need to guess in the Purevideo+AGP6800 sub-header... March 06, 2006

Features....
I see here that the floating-point blending and filtering features (which enables users to have OpenEXR-based HDR effects) of the GeForce 6 series are not explained in this article. I am unable to provide information on this feature in simple words, so perhaps someone else can add it?

The Feature is called NVIDIA HPDR I believe. You can find the NVIDIA description of it here:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/feature_HPeffects.html

Thanks.

Purevideo seperation?
PureVideo isn't a GeForce 6 only option. GeForce 7 supports this feature, and it's likely that from here on out, nVidia cards will as well. It would kind of be like sticking the GeForce 6 redirect to say TurboCache and SLI, both born from GeForce 6. - [User:XenoL-Type|XenoL-Type] 14:43 1 September, 2006 (UTC)

More info on 6500?
The section on the 6500 is just a short spec list. Doesn't anyone know something else about it? Is there any potential to overclock it or unlock features?

The 6500 as I understand it, is a PCIe NV44, thus its just a 6200 TC with a higher core clocks and comes with 128mb of ram onboard and uses a 64bit bus. I would assume it to be similiar to the ability of the PCIe 6200 in the way of features and Overclokcing Candle 86 00:21, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Stability (BSOD) Issues
I think it's worth a brief mention that nVidia drivers seem to have a semi-consistent instability and conflict with Windows, for some people on a regular basis. There are entire forums all over the net dedicated to working around, patching or defeating the nv4_disp.dll BSoD loop - Also simply to find the cause of the conflict, and why it doesn't affect everyone's systems all the time. In saying that, I don't think it should be written maliciously or anything, simply a statement of fact - I use an Albatron 6600GT myself and until recently have been dealing with the bluescreen loop. I don't know what fixed it, but now that it's fixed the card performs magnificently. So it's not an issue of manufacture or quality, just a strange idiosyncrasy that ATI cards don't seem to share.

Just my 2 cents. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.100.96.17 09:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC).

 * That error is caused by not cleaning out your old drivers first and by curruption of the drivers from fragmentation or a virus. The easist way is to boot in VGA mode and uninstall video drivers and reinstall, that fixes it, and its not worth mentioning here —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Candle 86 15:05, 20 February 2007 (UTC).

 * While I don't agree with the above as the definitive solution to the nv4_disp.dll issues, I do agree that this does not belong in the article. Such an article addition will be difficult to cite, will be full of speculation and difficult to write without weasel words. If a definite cause is discovered, something that we can consider peer-reviewed in it's level of merit, at that time it should be added. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 143.166.255.40 23:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

 * Candle 86, please don't make up facts. While reinstalling the driver may have helped you personally, many people have these problems from the second they install XP and GeForce 6's driver. Also, I'd like to stress the problem is not just with nv4_disp.dll but with nv4_mini.sys. But many times XP tends to get stuck without even bothering to register the error in the event manager at all.
 * I do think it belongs in the article because forums everywhere (including Nvidia's own) are full with unanswered cries for help (solved cases like Candle 86's are the exception). -Lwc4life 10:51, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Actually, it's not even exclusive to GeForce 6. Meanwhile, a solution that worked for me was a patch that's spread around forums. It was made by VIA Technologies. I've put it all down in the general GeForce entry and tried my best not to use "weasel words". I hope it's ok. -Lwc4life 14:38, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Problem with red dots
Could someone answer me this?I am having a problem with my 6600 gt in some games I can see some red spots or even the effects get invisible whole parts of buildings get red.I konow this is not site for my problems but please answer it. 82.114.81.149 14:01, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * If random spots keep appearing (flickering) in the screen, it is possible the GPU is overheating and can't function properly. Either improve cooling, or play until the spots start appearing, then Alt-Tab and wait until the card cools down (about a minute depending on how far it was heated). EVEREST is good for watching temperature.--89.147.67.118 (talk) 17:36, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Rewrite of Article?
more to the point posssibly rewriting of the sepcs sheets on the geforce articles to be a bit more like the radeon related articles; they have a clear concise table showing all card and chip revisions in a single table and differences between them - it makes comparison - comparitively easy compared to the broken up nature of the geforce articles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.136.106.38 (talk) 12:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC).

GeForce 62000 LE
What does LE stand for? I heard it stands for "Less Expensive" which means Craigs is better than Michaels.

Unlocking the new 6200A NV44A chipset
Regarding the statement, "however, there are still reports of people successfully unlocking pipelines and overclocking the newest 6200A NV44A chip ranges, using older Geforce drivers." I would love to have an information source (for me personally, as well as other Wikipedia readers). Modul8r 21:25, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PureVideo#PureVideo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PureVideo#PureVideo

Where is it

OpenGL version
The OpenGL specification that it supports should be more clear and presented on the first table with the primary information, currently it only shows the DirectX version, doesnt help very many people who use other platforms now does it. I felt that I had to dig to get to the OpenGL spec.

Maddog392 02:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

just saying thank you
Beosmrx 02:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC) This wiki article is really good! Thank you to contributers, you rock :)

Needs a redesign
You guys really need to think about what you are trying to convey with this article. I see regurgitated specs. Who cares? There is a whole page of tables about the specs. (Comparison of NVIDIA Graphics Processing Units) You should go look at the GeForce 256, 2, 3, 4, FX, and 8 articles. There already is some good architectural content here, but it seems that everyone just wants to post a section about their favorite variant. They are all the same architecture. Leave the specs of each of NV's price segment releases for the specs page. --Swaaye 20:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Geforce6800logo.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:20, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

An interesting data: it seems that the AGP version of the 6600GT is capable of rendering High Dynamic Range without any performance loss. Which means it is capable of running, for example, Half-Life 2 Episode One at maximum graphic quality except AA, which is known to slow the card down considerably. However, C&C3: Tiberium Wars is unable to run at even medium graphic quality, since the card overheats way too fast (in a matter of minutes), resulting in flickering black artifacts increasing in number as the card's temperature is rising. The same is observed in Half-Life 2, but as missing textures and Z-buffer errors. EVEREST confirms that the card is running 43°C and 100% fan speed at idle. Under severe load, the temperature can climb as high as 90°C (artifacts appear at about 65°C). Sometimes, the card is a little cooler at idle and doesn't overheat at all, most of the time it is. I mean, what's going on? Why does the artifacts appear if these cards are designed to run stable at temperature as high as 80-100°C ? Maybe the fact that the fan is running at full load all the time means it is starting to die? --89.147.67.118 (talk) 13:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Update: The CPU FSB is upped by 25% (685 MHz), and the overheating issue is all but gone. It still overheats, but it reaches a thermal equilibrium at 71°C, resulting in artifacts still coming up in C&C3, but with reduced severity and no FPS drop (turning on Write Combining and forcing AA off produces a major FPS hit, instead of the other way around). Additionally, the card refuses to load drivers other than the default Windows ones. If I install other drivers, the card turns off: XP says everything's right, but I'm stuck with 8bit colors and 800x600 at best, as well as high CPU usage (which is a telltale sign of XP using software rendering). Setting anything higher resets the setting to 640x480, and refresh rate is locked to "hardware default". --89.147.67.118 (talk) 16:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Possible GeForce 6200 AGP (NV44a2) without TurboCache Discrepancy
The listing for the NV44a2 says that only 128-bit memory interfaces exist, but I have a 6200 card with those specifications with a 64-bit interface. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.162.62.142 (talk) 05:46, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

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Bass River is an estuary and village in South Yarmouth, Massachusetts, United States. The estuary separates the towns of Yarmouth and Dennis at the central, southern sections of the towns. At its widest and most southerly point, it opens to and meets Nantucket Sound. Its brackish, northwestern end flows into Follins Pond, from there winding further north as a brook, to Mill Pond then an underground stream that nearly bisects Cape Cod.

The mouth of the river is between Smugglers Beach on the Yarmouth side and West Dennis Beach on the Dennis side. West Dennis beach has become a popular site for kite boarding in the past few years. In the same way, Kalmus Beach in Hyannis has become popular for windsurfing. Once inside the river, there is a large land mass covered with sea grass, in the middle of which is a large bay. The island is called 'Marsh Island' by the locals.

Marsh Island separates Bass River into two parts. The right side of the river, which is referred to as the 'Old Field Channel', goes towards West Dennis and the Fingers development. The left side is the main channel of the river, passing Windmill Beach, Bass River Yacht Club, Ship Shops Marina and the prestigious Bass River Marina and Yacht Club. After the marina, the river goes under the Route 28 bridge and winds five more miles deep into the cape. Bass River was once considered a viable location for a canal traversing Cape Cod, and is the largest river the Mid-Cape Highway spans.

Bass River is home to a friendly rivalry between West Dennis Yacht Club and the Bass River Yacht Club. These clubs also compete against Hyannis Yacht Club, Wianno Yacht Club, and others in the Southern Massachusetts Sailing Association team racing circuit. The Yarmouth shores are home to Bass River Golf Course, which is owned and operated by the town of Yarmouth.

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Talk:List of MTR stations

Chinese!
where the heck is all the chinese?!

someone pls add it for all the station names, line names, towns, districts, etc, and replace the various maps with BILINGUAL maps.

it is beyond annoying to have to look up every last station one at a time. and who wants an english-only map? even the cheapies they hand out to tourists are fully bilingual! 66.105.218.38 (talk) 06:43, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Problems
Here seems to be some problem in this page,

1.Should Mei Foo station formerly called Lai Wan?

 * Yes

2.Whampoa Garden and Ho Man Tin of Kwun Tong Lane is not current station of the MTR, is it in the original plan of MTR and be stated in the list?

 * It is just a proposal by MTR, as an alternative to KCR Shatin-Central Link's Whampoa connection.

3.Same for the case of Sai Ying Pun of Island Lane.

 * It is an extention of the Island Line, and will be the interchange station to the West Island Line.

4.How can be Fortress Hill as the interchange station of Tung Chung Lane?

 * The North Island Line will connects the Tung Chung Line at Hong Kong and Island Line at Fortress Hill. The current island line will become parts of the Tseung Kwan O Line, by linking North Point and Tin Hau, and of the Tung Chung Line, by linking Fortress Hill with the North Island Line.

5.South and West Island Lane has not been even started the construction, should it be listed here?

 * The two lines are proposed by MTR.

6. As concluded, should all stations only in plan be listed in this page?

 * Let's discuss. I have no objection for listing proposed projects.

7. Do any Wikipedian agree that the Chinese names for stations should be put up?
 * I think it is a good idea, I have made a test with the East Line. Feel free to let me know your thoughts. Not sure if the COlumn header is the most appropriate. Fsjmax (talk) 09:49, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Proposed & In Planning
(Assuming that editors can read Chinese) Are we going to add in more proposed stations as listed in 港鐵車站列表? There's an awful lot to be done because they'll be constructing and realigning the lines, terminus, and stations. OhanaUnitedTalk page 17:58, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes, we can, but I do not think it is necessary to put the proposed lines and their stations, as they do not exist yet. -- Jack l  01:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Do you know that some lines (such as Sha Tin to Central Link) are already confirmed and parts are already constructed ahead of time (such as the Ma On Shan line is preparing for the extending link to Central)? It seems kind of foolish not to include them when the government already signed contract and decided a deadline on when will the railway be completed. OhanaUnitedTalk page 01:13, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Major revamp?
I am a bit shocked to find this list going major revamping. Actually what the final look would this page show? I am a little against removing the former templates, as they ensured uniformness between all lines on this page, and also same style on each line's page. – Peter CX &Talk 06:31, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

 * We are changing to aim for featured list status. OhanaUnitedTalk page 01:13, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

FL and merge
Are we still pushing this article to become a featured list? And are we merging List of MTR station codes with this article? Personally I agree with the merger.  Jack l  13:14, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Since the codes were added to the article, I propose a simple redirect. Moreover, I'd like to see the list in one big table instead of separate tables for each line, consistently with other similar articles. --Ita140188 (talk) 03:14, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Recent edits / future stations
Hello and. Regarding your recent edits, perhaps you could make a new article called "List of future MTR stations"? It is difficult or impossible to include future stations under the headings of each railway line because some lines will be joined together in the future. Furthermore it is not appropriate to include South Island Line stations under the heading for the Island Line because they are separate lines. The only similarity is the name. Lastly you have included North Island Line stations under the Tung Chung Line section, which is speculative - the final design has not been announced and furthermore the Railway Development Stategy 2014 recommended against the scheme whereby the Island Line is absorbed by the TCL/TKL. For this article I think we should stick to the current stations and cover future stations in Future projects of the MTR or a new list of future stations. Citobun (talk) 10:17, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Sectioning
Should the separate lists be merged into a single list? The lines already have their own lists of stations, so the current layout could be duplicating their function too much. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 10:33, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

 * If found it useful to have a single list when counting the stations. I don't think there's a good way to include it on the main page without too much redundancy so I'll include it here instead.
 * Admiralty
Airport

AsiaWorld-Expo

Austin

Causeway Bay

Central

Chai Wan

Che Kung Temple

Cheung Sha Wan

Choi Hung

City One

Diamond Hill

Disneyland Resort

East Tsim Sha Tsui

Exhibition Centre

Fanling

Fo Tan

Fortress Hill

Hang Hau

Heng Fa Chuen

Heng On

Hin Keng

HKU

Ho Man Tin

Hong Kong

Hung Hom

Jordan

Kai Tak

Kam Sheung Road

Kennedy Town

Kowloon

Kowloon Bay

Kowloon Tong

Kwai Fong

Kwai Hing

Kwun Tong

Lai Chi Kok

Lai King

Lam Tin

Lei Tung

Lo Wu

LOHAS Park

Lok Fu

Lok Ma Chau

Long Ping

Ma On Shan

Mei Foo

Mong Kok

Mong Kok East

Nam Cheong

Ngau Tau Kok

North Point

Ocean Park

Olympic

Po Lam

Prince Edward

Quarry Bay

Racecourse

Sai Wan Ho

Sai Ying Pun

Sha Tin

Sha Tin Wai

Sham Shui Po

Shau Kei Wan

Shek Kip Mei

Shek Mun

Sheung Shui

Sheung Wan

Siu Hong

South Horizons

Sung Wong Toi

Sunny Bay

Tai Koo

Tai Po Market

Tai Shui Hang

Tai Wai

Tai Wo

Tai Wo Hau

Tin Hau

Tin Shui Wai

Tiu Keng Leng

To Kwa Wan

Tseung Kwan O

Tsim Sha Tsui

Tsing Yi

Tsuen Wan

Tsuen Wan West

Tuen Mun

Tung Chung

University

Wan Chai

Whampoa

Wong Chuk Hang

Wong Tai Sin

Wu Kai Sha

Yau Ma Tei

Yau Tong

Yuen Long

 IJMacD (talk) 04:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

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Syntagmatic analysis

In semiotics, syntagmatic analysis is analysis of syntax or surface structure (syntagmatic structure) as opposed to paradigms (paradigmatic analysis). This is often achieved using commutation tests.

"Syntagmatic" means that one element selects the other element either to precede it or to follow it. For example, the definitive article "the" selects a noun and not a verb.

Of particular use in semiotic study, a syntagm is a chain which leads, through syntagmatic analysis, to an understanding of how a sequence of events forms a narrative. Alternatively, syntagmatic analysis can describe the spatial relationship of a visual text such as posters, photographs or a particular setting of a filmed scene.

Roland Barthes was able to use metaphor in the form of various garments in order to display how the syntagm/paradigm relationship worked together to at once create and change meaning. Expanding on this form of explanation by Barthes, both David Lodge and Susan Spiggle have further developed the metaphor, using specific wearable items. Shirt, shorts and sandals for example, are freely interchangeable along the plane of tops, bottoms and footwear, the paradigmatic plane, assuming they follow the rules of wearable items, the syntagmatic plane. While you can change the sandals for high heels, it would be breaking the rules to wear them as a top.

Application
Due to the abstract nature of the signifier/signified relationship, a free-standing signifier is unable to convey knowledge or understanding by itself. After all, the only reason any word means what it means at all is due to a consensus of understanding by the wider community. Expanding on Saussure's own example of the arbitrariness of the word "tree", or any word for that matter, it can be seen that the word "tree" by itself could mean just about any upright bit of wood with branches, whether it grows leaves or provides a place to hang cups or hats. Meaning is therefore provided by an extended syntagmatic chain, which will identify for the reader of the text just what sort of tree is meant.

This understanding leads to the opportunity to consider the linguistics of texts and language in a wider variety ways. Thwaite, Davis, and Mules identify a syntagm as "the result of using a conventional rule to combine a series of elements from various paradigms". From this understanding it is possible to consider the structure of texts—film and television being an ideal example.

Looking at the mise-en-scène of a set piece, the various signs combine to give the viewer a greater understanding of what they are viewing. The syntagmatic chain is constructed in such a way that it sets the feel of the scene and is particularly apparent when considering genre. A western for example may have many of the paradigmatic signs that the viewer has grown accustomed to. That everything is where they expect to see it is following the rules of this syntagmatic chain. If the horse is riding the cowboy, it breaks these rules and becomes a very different movie.

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Synsepal

A synsepal is a floral structure formed by the partial or complete fusion of two or more sepals. Such sepals are said to be gamosepalous.

It is common among Lady's Slipper orchids (Cypripedioideae) that the two lateral sepals are connate to form a synsepal in the outer whorl. This is located directly behind the pouch, opposite the upward-pointing dorsal sepal.

Synsepals may be bifid, i.e. divided into two equal lobes, or forked and divided in two by a deep cleft.

title: Synsepal