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Talk:Akrotiri and Dhekelia

Maps
It looks like CIA got its Dhekelia map wrong. The area to the north of the UN buffer zone is not under the control of the Republic of Cyprus but under turkish occupation (or Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus administration, according to your PoV) Mavros

No, its just that no country recognizes the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, except Turkey. Takeshi

My statement above refers to an older version of the map which was wrong. The map has been corrected. Mavros 15:36, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Split question
Why aren't there separate articles for Akrotiri and Dhekelia? They are listed as separate entities in the CIA Factbook. —Cantus… ☎   21:01, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

Could somebody create a map of all Cyprus with dots to indicate where these territories are located? RickK 09:45, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * See UK sovereign base and/or Image:Cy-map.png. - Hoshie/Crat 00:42, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

City question
As for this edit, I am interested to know if Akrotiri and Dhekelia are cities. Thanks. — Instantnood 21:41, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

They are villages really Mavros 22:49, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Vote to split this article.
Here's a section where you can cast a vote on whether or not you are in favour of 2 separate articles - Akrotiri Sovereign Base Area and Dhekelia Sovereign Base Area.One vote per person please. - (Aidan Work 01:58, 26 December 2005 (UTC))

Votes in favour of splitting this article.
I have always been in favour of 2 separate articles under the 2 above-mentioned names. The lists of the Administrators of the 2 S.B.A.'s should be included. - (Aidan Work 01:58, 26 December 2005 (UTC))

Votes not in favour of splitting this article.

 * Despite what the CIA lists, Akrotiri and Dhekelia is considered by the UK to be one entity not two. Shocktm | Talk | Contributions 15:32, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Shocktm, constitutionally, Akrotiri & Dhekelia are 2 separate entities. Legislation made for Akrotiri has no legal force in Dhekelia & vice-versa. This is why there should be 2 separate articles. - (Aidan Work 01:22, 27 December 2005 (UTC))

 * Everything I have seen including http://www.sba.mod.uk/ indicates that the SBAs are one entity. They have one administrator (Currently Peter Thomas Clayton Pearson ), one capital (Episkopi), one police force, etc. I could be wrong but it does not apprear to be seperate entities to me. Shocktm | Talk | Contributions 02:50, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

 * suggests there may be a few local ordinances for Akrotiri, but that almost all ordinances apply across the SBAs. --Henrygb 19:13, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The local ordinances relating to Akrotiri actually relate to the Greek Cypriot village of Akrotiri. They probably come about because the village is the only civilian Cypriot community within the SBAs sizeable enough to warrent a measure of local government. All the villages inside the Eastern SBA boundaries were actually made Republic of Cyprus enclaves and subject to that country's rule of law. I believe that at the time of the setting up of the SBAs, the villagers of Akrotiri were paid compensation to relocate. For one reason or another they didn't, they were never forced to leave and have remained to this day. Incidentally, Akrotiri is the name of;
 * The Greek Cypriot village
 * The peninsular that forms the southern most part of the Western Sovereign Base Area (and of Cyprus)
 * The bay to the east of the peninsular, and south of Limassol
 * The Salt Lake in the middle of the peninsular, winter home to flocks of flamingos
 * The RAF base, RAF Akrotiri on the southern edge of the peninsular, that takes up 15mi² of the Western SBA's 47.5mi²
 * --Dashers 06:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Schedule 6 of the British Nationality Act 1981 (as amended) lists all the British overseas territories.  The SBAs comprise a single territory, not two.  JAJ 00:33, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

 * If this article is to remain as one, it should not continue with its current title- it is basically an article on the Sovereign Base Areas in Cyprus, and should be titled as such- ie Sovereign Base Areas (Cyprus), with the current Sovereign Base Areas article retained for disambiguation purposes. The article is basically expanding on what is written in that article anyway. To make Akrotiri and Dhekelia the title of the article is misleading when there is more in it than just those 2 bases. There are multiple entities within the sovereign base areas, but the SBAs themselves are governed together- by the Sovereign Base Area administration, which has civilian governance over all areas outside the Military installations. All areas within the military installations come under military governance.--Dashers 15:23, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
 * As mentioned previously, the Sovereign Base Area administration with civilian resposibility for both SBAs is based in Episkopi, the British Army Garrison positioned at the northwest of the Western SBA on Cyprus' south coast. Military command for the Western SBA is in the hands of the Station Commander, RAF Akrotiri; military command for the Eastern SBA is the reponsibility of the Garrison Commander at Dhekelia; and the HQ for British Forces Cyprus is at Episkopi. The Commander for British Forces Cyprus based at the HQ in Episkopi is also the administrator of the SBA administration. The garrison of Episkopi is a few miles to the west of the Cypriot village of Episkopi, situated just north of the Western SBA's northern border.
 * --Dashers 06:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Proposed change of name for article
I would like to reiterate my belief that the title of this article should be changed to "Sovereign Base Areas Cyprus". This is the name of the administritive unit that both these areas fall under, as per the Sovereign Base Areas web site .Locally the areas are known as Western Sovereign Base Area and Eastern Sovereign Base Area, rather than Akrotiri and Dhekelia- these names refer to the RAF base and the Army garrison of the same names, each constituting just a part of their respective base areas. It concerns me that the CIA World Factbook is being used as the definitive authority on this issue rather than British Government material such as the SBA website and the British Forces Cyprus web site. There are a number of inaccuracies in the CIA source- for instance, it states there are no indigenous inhabitants; however, there is the Cypriot village of Akrotiri in the WSBA that is under the governance of the SBA administration, not the Republic of Cyprus (unlike the villages in the ESBA). No where on the British Forces website does it refer to Episkopi as a Cantonment (however, Dhekelia is). Episkopi, as an army garrison, hardly qualifies to be called a capital- it is an Administritive Centre. --Dashers 03:05, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

 * suport Reaper7 08:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. Dragases 08:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Support. JAJ (talk) 01:16, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I fully agree, having lived in the ESBA for a year and the WSBA for almost four years, neither are referred to in the ways outlined in this article. The WSBA includes the RAF Base called Akrotiri and the British Army Garrison of Episkopi, each of which are named after nearby Cypriot villages. The ESBA includes the military bases of Dhekelia and Ayios Nikolaos. Both of the SBAs comprise areas of land which are not inside the military bases. Contrary to what it says in the article Episkopi is not the capital of anything. I think the CIA Factbook could do with a lot of updating. If it can get this small area so fundamentally wrong then I wonder about its other articles. * Support. Fatspoonwiki 22:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Whether the name is changed or not (and whether there are separate pages for WSBA and ESBA, and/or one page uniting them), the important thing is to scrap the separate page for "Sovereign Base Area" - see my comments and edits on that page and my edits here. The point is that the "SBAs of Akrotiri and Dhekelia" is one British Overseas Territory, split into two parts, but there is no "Sovereign Base Area" anywhere else in the world now or at any time in history, nor will there be, because SBA is just a unique name for this set-up rather than a general concept. I too lived in WSBA for four years, and Wikipedia's failure to get this right has bugged me ever since. Waldronfan (talk) 01:41, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Guantanamo Bay
I'm not seeing any reasion in the article for the see also link to Guantanamo Bay. If there is one, it really should not point to the disamb. article, it chould point to the correct mainspace atricle. Should I remove it, point it to Guantanamo Bay Naval Base or Guantánamo Bay, Cuba? Zvar 03:33, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Just delete it I think. It's enough that both belong to Category:Overseas military bases, no real need to refer to it in the "See also" section. --Mathew5000 07:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Where do you see a link to Guantanamo Bay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki74o (talk • contribs) 01:02, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

What percentage of land is taken by the UK bases on the Greek Cypriot land?
From the maps of this article - it looks like a significant percentage/. Reaper7 15:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

None! The UK Bases are on British land not Cypriot land Greek or otherwise. YourPTR! 22:28, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Don't be ridiculous YourPTR, the land belongs rightly to us, the Cypriots, you are just leasing it and a request for you to leave would have to be accepted. --Robandrew (talk) 16:32, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Overseas territory
The SBAs seem to be listed frequently on Wikipedia (and the CIA Factbook) as separate British territories, but the article seems to infer (or even state outright) that they aren't anything more than British military bases, albeit not located on British soil (I would imagine that Akrotiri and Dhekelia aren't the only British bases overseas, though.) Why are these bases usually listed as territories? True this is probably a discussion for the talk pages of the various lists of countries on Wikipedia, but since the ones that list the SBAs all link here, might as well discuss here. --Canuckguy 13:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

 * The SBAs comprise a single British Overseas Territory. They are the only bases in the world that are the sovereign territory of the operating nation (although British sovereignty is restricted by the terms of the treaty with Cyprus).  Guantanamo Bay is an American base on Cuban sovereign territory, albeit leased to the United States.  JAJ (talk) 02:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Flag
This website shows a separate flag for use on Akrotiri and Dhekelia rather than the UK flag, is this just unofficial? - J Logan t: 21:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Inofficial fantasy flag. — Nightstallion 01:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I have to second what Nightstallion has said. The flag sold by flagsonline.it is bogus. See the deletion debate for these images on Commons. - Thanks, Hoshie 12:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

BRITISH SOLDIER - RAPE CASE OF LOUISE JENSEN
What is it with the people here, the soldiers were sentanced to 25 years and released after 13 years NOT the 2 years lie, that is on this wikipedia page see BBC source http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4792915.stm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockybiggs (talk • contribs) 11:08, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

PRESIDENT COMMENTS
Why is this comment mentioned on this page. It is not helpful or needed.

This is British land, the same as Buckingham Palace is British Land. Therefore why are these comments here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.49.4.199 (talk) 11:12, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

 * It is mentioned because it suggests the government of Cyprus may challenge British sovereignty over the base areas. That in itself is notable. ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 13:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

What it surgests is irrelevant. As the Republic of Cyprus has no ownership of this land. In legal and international legal terms this is British land, unless Britain decided to give this land to the Republic of Cyprus. This is not an arguement but a fact as per Zürich and London Agreement (1960 Treaty of Guarantee). (talk • contribs) (Rockybiggs (talk) 14:00, 31 January 2008 (UTC)).

 * We know what it is now. The paragraph refers to a possible change in its status at some point in the future. The way this may be brought about is unclear, but it is a prospect that is still worth mentioning. ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 14:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

If this is to be left submitted, then British Sovereignty, must also be mentioned. To present a fair and balenced view. Leaving these comments as is, indicates the land can be taken back at anytime. Rockybiggs (talk) 16:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

 * How you mean? British sovereignty is mentioned throughout the article. Hint: look at the flag if you can't be bothered reading it. ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 17:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

 * This is a irrelevant remark, and should be removed or amended 172.159.150.122 (talk) 17:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Further more the source is in Greek, how do we know what the scource states. This is the English Language Wikipedia and Sources must only be in English. A new source in English must be added or comments must be removed Rockybiggs (talk) 13:26, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

It should be removed. It doesn't matter if the Cypriot President thinks the status of the bases is "under review" because it is nothing to do with him and the British point of view is the bases are not under review and Akrotiri and Dhekelia remain British forever. If the bases were under review than so would Cyprus' status as an independent state, but it is not. YourPTR! (talk) 08:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

 * I disagree. There are ways, both legal and political, in which the Republic of Cyprus could contest the sovereignty of the base areas, if it so desired. Your point about the British view being the only relevant one is not quite convincing, either. It was also the British view at the turn of the last century that Cyprus would remain British forever, as would the rest of the Empire, for that matter. ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 08:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Since Tassos Papadopoulos has failed to be relected anyway, surely the point is moot? --Arwel (talk) 12:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

 * It remains to be seen how his successor will deal with Britain. The frontrunner, Dimitris Christofias, is the leader of the communist AKEL, after all. ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 12:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Deals with Britain ? whoever it is they have no power to deal with Britain. This was a silly comment, to boost Papadopoulos pre-election propects. This is UK soil period. A stupid comment which is not needed or worthy of any comment.Rockybiggs (talk) 13:10, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

 * In a section titled "Dispute with Cyprus", the comments of the Cypriot president are relevant and notable, unlike your British nationalism. ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 23:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

 * NO they are not relavant, stop putting your Greek POV on this page.
 * This British Land and will remain so. Please see WP:DBF
 * Rockybiggs (talk) 09:20, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The CIA has made no bother to mention these base areas as an "international dispute". The President has not made any real threats to close any bases, be they British, Turkish, or a within the Green Line. His threat of stagnating a good economy does not seem to have happened. I swear I have not been drinking, and that the UN is not an actual country, but why does the Green Line seem to be larger than the UK Sovereign Base Areas?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.164.223.175 (talk) 00:34, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

This is getting very boring and tedious now.

I am not the only one who has stated the comments of the President of Cyprus, are not of merit. I am not imposing my views on this i am being neutral, I have a real problem with the Greek point of view being made, and the comments `has cast fresh doubt on the continued British presence`. These comments imply that the President of Cyprus can kick the British out anytime, which of coarse is not the case. Surely you can see the NPOV here !? The base is British, so why does, the comments of the Cyprus President matter ? Except to make the Greek POV feel better.(also the source doesn`t mention any comments). (Futher point why can`t you use the talk page instead of Reverting all the time. )Rockybiggs (talk) 15:37, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I have made my points on the relevant talk page, if you'd bothered to read them. The stance of the President of Cyprus, whether you like it or not, does affect the future of the bases. The real question is, if British sovereignty is as unassailable as you claim, why are you so intent on censoring the so obviously inconsequential Cypriot view? If we followed your argument elsewhere, we wouldn't mention the Argentine claim on the Malvinas either, as according to you the sun never sets. Whatever. ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 16:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Once again you miss the point, Yes the Argentines claim the Falkland islands, BUT it doesnt`t mater what their President states, as Legally they are British. As per the U.N surport for the U.K when they Invaded.
 * I dont think your POV comments about the sun never sets are helpfull either.

I propose a compromise, that the comments `has cast fresh doubt on the continued British presence`, are removed. Rockybiggs (talk) 16:35, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Further more i await your reponse to avoid any silly revert war Rockybiggs (talk) 16:43, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Exactly. Although you as a Brit may think it doesn't matter what Argentina says, the mere fact that British sovereignty is disputed by another country is notable in and of itself. You can't just ignore it. I have reworded the paragraph to reflect the source more accurately. ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 16:49, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

 * As for Argentinas claims, Nestor Kirschner once urged/demanded/threatened/whatever the Government of Uruguay to ceace the producing of pulp-mass in the town of Fray Bentos. As I was mistaken to think that Uruguay was a part of Argentina, I soon learned that the production of pulp-mass would be geared up with business as usual. No news seems to have arrived from that "controversy" since 2007.(82.134.28.194 (talk) 09:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC))

Well, in fact, both countries have a treaty about the Uruguay River (that they shared) and about what production can be made in his coast152.170.24.22 (talk) 18:59, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

 * Ok i agree with your partial amendments (despite my own reservation as i dislike the left wing guardian, but thats my own POV.) Thank you for being a Gentleman. Rockybiggs (talk) 17:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Cheers, matey. And just out of curiosity, why do you rail against the "Greek POV" when you identify yourself as a "Greek Wikipedian"? ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 17:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I think that is a bit unfair to say i rail against Greek. As i fully supoort the efforts to re-unite Cyprus from the Illegal Turkish occupation. I consider myself Britsh,
 * but i do have Greek Ancestry through my Greek Great-Grandfarther. Rockybiggs (talk) 17:18, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes, I would consider you British too, which is why I found your inclusion in the "Greek Wikipedians" category rather puzzling. But I guess it does that automatically when you put the Greek ancestry userbox in your profile. All good. ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 17:22, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

As for international disputes, they happen only once a year: All the time. No one noticed that Turkey protests Cypriot Government creating hydrocarbon blocks and maritime boundary with Lebanon in March 2007. Anyone can tell that this is plagitarianism from a CIA document. I am supposed to have heard that Hugo Chavez disputes Dutch sovereignity over the ABC Islands, but CIA has not noticed. There is no copy and paste routine from the CIA to what Cyprus actually says on Akrotiri and Dhakelia. BTW Discussions are on to what sort of Communist Chritofias happens to be. I guess the Greek discussion page is better than that.(85.164.223.175 (talk) 01:29, 1 June 2010 (UTC))

Egyptian guerrillas were flown into Larnaca for interrogation
The scouce for this is bogus (i.e the website doesn`t exsist).

Why are these comments here, when there is no proof or need. this a guess and not fact ???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockybiggs (talk • contribs) 11:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

International controversy
Votes for this section to be removedRockybiggs (talk) 11:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Why? It is sourced entirely from mainstream news sources. ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Because the International controversy title alone in name is irrelevant. Not only was there no Interntional Controversy, and the comments are only suited to a cypriot propaganda agenda.

First paragraph: 1956 Suez crises comments

1)	This first paragraph is plagiarism from the alleged source.

2)	How can this be called a source, when these are not facts but one journalists opionion being raised in a newspaper article.

3)	Which have been taken out of total context.

4)	Plagiarism alone is a Wikipedia offence in its self.

British soldier rape case

1)	There is already a Wikipedia page devoted to this rape case Louise Jensen.

2)	 I can`t see any reason why this case should be mentioned on this page, apart from a cypriot view, and as this is UK soil and the offences took place on cypriot soil,please tell me why they shouldn`t be omitted. Rockybiggs (talk) 14:53, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Hi Rockybiggs, please consider the following: the British military bases in cyprus are not exactly UK soil, they are sovereign! At the same time they are liable to the Republic of Cyprus laws in regards to Freedom of Access, Legislation, Public Services,Education, Agriculture, Co-operative Development, Labour and Social Insurance, Social Welfare, Health and Medical Services, Postal Services, Forestry Services, Customs, Currency and Exchange Control, Civil Proceedings, Criminal Proceedings, Prisons etc etc. They are a distinctive case. SBAs are meant to be military bases only. The laws of the UK do not apply to Cypriots in the SBAs. Regards Meander ₪  —Preceding comment was added at 13:58, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi 3meandEr, I accept your valid point on the soldiers rape case issue. Rockybiggs (talk) 14:10, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

 * i owe you a smiley :). Please also consider the following: The existance of the Republic of Cyprus (through its treaty of establishment) reinforces and does not hinder the sovereignty of the military bases, as they are bound by the same treaty. It is the cooperation of the two which makes possible the SBAs sovereignty. It is for the same reason Rockybiggs that the infobox of cyprus was added. To be honest i was bewildered when i saw it removed. Without the treaty, and the republics infrastructure the SBAs would not be the same. Kindly reconsider, thanks Meander ₪ 14:43, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Having the infobox only on the Republic of Cyprus page should be the correct and proper place. As Akrotiri and Dhekelia already has infobox, and is a Sovereign base (UK administered). From a presentational point of view as well. Rockybiggs (talk) 14:56, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Oh ok, Your are right, it doesnt look nice. Meander ₪ 15:12, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Is there any chance these areas will be settled by civilians in the future?
They already are. Christopedia (talk) 11:41, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Not by British civilians. Britain is under a treaty obligation with Cyprus not to use the bases for anything other than military purposes.  JAJ (talk) 13:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

The bases belong to the European Union
I read, at the end of the article, that they adopted the euro despite they are not part of the European Union. I think this is not correct: they are not part of the Euro Zone, but they do belong to the European Union, as part of the United Kingdom. Am i correct or is there some special status I am not aware of?--Nebu87 (talk) 12:38, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

They use the euro; see link:. They are not part of the E.U --Rockybiggs (talk) 12:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

 * We can just say that the Vatican became a member of the EU, but the Pope was mistaken to believe that Europe was to turn up in the gardens of the Vatican. Then we end up with one enraged Monarch who wants out of the EU.......As If. (83.108.30.141 (talk) 20:44, 8 July 2010 (UTC))

 * British overseas territories: "The British Overseas Territories are fourteen territories that are under the sovereignty of the United Kingdom, but which do not form part of the United Kingdom itself[...]Gibraltar is the only Overseas Territory that is part of the European Union[...]the main body of EU law does not apply and, although certain slices of EU law are applied to those territories" Apokrif (talk) 12:03, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

That article is not correct. The colonies, now "overseas territories" have always been considered part of the British state and part of the United Kingdom. Only the Crown Dependences are not fully part of the UK, but form a federacy with it and are treated as part of the UK for some purposes such as nationality. A&D are part of the UK but not part of the EU. The bases belong to the British and no one else! Christopedia (talk) 11:44, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

 * No, BOTs are not "part of" the United Kingdom. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 12:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

They are under British sovereignty but not part of the UK itself. --92.0.124.79 (talk) 22:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

If the EU had any say about the management of these areas, that will be the same day the EU is allowed to dictate or limit the defence policies in each EU country. When I say dictate, I dont mean by just telling....Poland to mind it's exterior towards Belorussia. What if both the Finnish and the Greeks were obliged to ceace using conscripts? I believe Greek conscripts are made to sing songs of wounding Turkish soldiers....cutting of his noble parts....and letting him choke on it. If the EU dares to ban these things, that is a cultural loss which we can not allow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.108.30.141 (talk) 20:39, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Post address
Having read the article I wondered, how would I address a letter to one of these places? GB, Akrotiri? CY, Akrotiri? Is there a postcode? --155.56.68.220 (talk) 14:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Pictures
Does any one have pictures like these:. There's hardly any pictures on this article. --92.8.99.201 (talk) 21:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Flag and anthem
Is it not a bit of overkill having GSTQ as the anthem and the union flag in the infobox, there is none in the Guantanamo Bay. BigDunc 18:01, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

 * I don`t think so, if you read the Guantánamo Bay`naval base` page it states ``The Cuban-American Treaty gave, among other things, the Republic of Cuba ultimate sovereignty over Guantánamo Bay while granting the United States "complete jurisdiction and control". Where as the UK ``retain sovereignty`` over Akrotiri and Dhekelia (effectively part of the UK).--Rockybiggs (talk) 09:35, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

 * It's ridiculous, unsourced and being removed in a few days unless sources are provided. There is no evidence that Akrotiri and Dhekelia has a national anthem and flag, other than the designated UK ones. Some places do have a distinct national anthem or flag which remains GSTQ or the Butchers Apron, but they retain the constitutional ability to change them. Including them on this article is equivalent to including them on Bognor Regis. That's not a nation, it doesn't have its own flag or national anthem, and neither should this article. Either provide sources that show Akrotiri and Dhekelia has a distinct national anthem and flag which are GSTQ and the Butchers Apron, or I'm removing them. Thanks. 2 lines of K  303  12:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

 * Erm, as you know full well, before you come to this page with threatening behaviour and hostile remarks and stating you will remove this and that, you know full well the wikipedia process. Why dont you start reading the British overseas territories page for starters and you will see the coat of arms for starters apply. Furthermore EACH overseas territory mentions the national antham on each page and the coat of arms, such as Falkland Islands, and even the little Pitcairn Islands population 50 !.   source - covers flag, head of state etc CIA World factbook --Rockybiggs (talk) 14:34, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

 * Since you've provided no sources for the so-called national anthem or coat of arms, I've removed them. 2 lines of K  303  14:47, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

 * I have reverted. See this one near bottom `British Sovereign Base Areas`--Rockybiggs (talk) 13:51, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Further note-Please also see the fully sourced wikipedia page List of anthems

Imprecise Language
The article refers to a "number of controversies" involving the British, but describes only two. The article should either say "two controversies," or describe the rest of them to avoid misleading imprecision or exaggeration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.118.229.114 (talk) 20:50, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

The bases are split into
They're not really. There are two bases. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 (talk) 16:29, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Geography
Akrotiri surely isn't surrounded by Cypriot territory. Also, is Dhekelia in two parts, connected by the buffer-zone, or is the link also British? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 (talk) 16:41, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe the link is also British, see this map. Apcbg (talk) 14:18, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

"Dispute with Cyprus"
The whole first paragraph under this heading "Dispute with Cyprus", about the UK Govt failing to pay money claimed by the Govt of the Republic of Cyprus, is unreferenced - basically because it is largely wrong. It appears to come from a story based on a mis-reading of the 1960 Exchange of Notes on Financial Assistance to RoC (commonly referred to as "Appendix R" from the grouping in the set of papers presented to the UK Parliament). From the Republic of Cyprus's own Government website at http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/portal/portal.nsf/0/7efeb0c73e0ee288c2256fdc00396ae3?OpenDocument&ExpandSection=1 you can see that this is about the former colonial power giving financial aid "by way of grant" to the new Republic on a tapering basis - a total of £12 million, with £4 million in the first year, down to £1.5 million in the 5th year. Then there are other very specific payments related to the arrangements for independence. Then there is at (c) a provision that the UK is every 5 years to review & determine, in consultation with the Republic, the amount of financial aid to be provided over the next 5 years "taking all factors into account, including the financial requirements of the Government of the Republic" - clearly linking it to the needs of the new government, not to anything that the UK is paying for. The common mistake (or deception) is to claim that the money was rent for the bases, but the bases were not rented, and a tapering rent is an odd concept. Instead it is financial aid - and on a reducing basis, with no guarantee of anything after the first 5 years - it is entirely for the UK to decide how much, which means the supposed "estimates" of something actually owed are entirely fanciful. The paragraph does not reference any demand made by the Government of the Republic, motions have been passed in the Republic's Parliament, but it must be significant that the Government has never taken them up with the UK, let alone with any international court (even with the excuse that the Turks must be dealt with before the Greek-Cypriots take on the British). If there has been no demand, and there is no document to back up any such claim or even put any figures on it, then what is this paragraph doing on Wikipedia? Waldronfan (talk) 20:21, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I have just edited the offending paragraph to add some of this material (without the argument). But now that I look at it, it brings home the point that the financial assistance was never related to the bases in the first place, so this page is not the natural Wikipedia home for information about this story. It would fit more appropriately on the existing "Cyprus–United Kingdom relations" page, where the detail could be set out and whoever promoted the original paragraph could find and show evidence about when the RoC Parliament (not Government) has passed resolutions urging the RoC Government to claim money from the UK. Waldronfan (talk) 22:56, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If as you say it is unrelated, then it would be better on the relations page, where it should probably be anyway. CMD (talk) 23:46, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, just in case not clear - I mean the whole paragraph on the alleged financial dispute should be moved to the relations page, not just the bits I have added. I am not sure about the etiquette of moving it myself, particularly as I see it as a non-story anyway.--Waldronfan (talk) 00:01, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Per WP:Bold, there's no etiquette issue. If anyone objects they'll discuss it here as well. CMD (talk) 00:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Just an acknowledgment is needed under GFDL when it moves to the new destination, in the edit-summary field of the destination article. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:12, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed it does. I've been bold and moved this, citation needed tags and all. CMD (talk) 08:18, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Great. Thank you CMD. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 16:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Flag in infobox
Chipmunkdavies restored [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Akrotiri_and_Dhekelia&diff=523058766&oldid=523053321] the UK flag and CoA in the infobox with the argument that "It seems standard, both in external sources, and in wikipedia, to use state flags for dependent territories that lack their own". I respectfully disagree: what we are doing in this infobox is not "using" (displaying) a state flag, in the way we would "use" it in, say, tables of sports teams with flagicon sugaring. The infobox is supposed to convey encyclopedic information. The question to which it is supposed to provide an answer is not: "what national flag would be flown in this territory?", but: "what is the flag of this territory?". If this territory has no flag of its own, then there is no encyclopedic value in displaying some other. The fact that British flags are in use on this territory is trivial, given the fact that it's a British possession; the space at the top of the infobox is too valuable to waste on such trivialities. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:52, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I've always seen flags in infoboxes as more a description of "What flag is used to represent this territory?". I feel that this does have encyclopaedic value. In places where dependencies represent themselves, such as sports (although I very much doubt this ever applies to A&D specifically), or political meetings, usually one specific flag is flown. Showing the reader what flag would be used to represent dealings by a certain territory is helpful. An analogy would perhaps be French territories, although in many cases they have specifically legislated that the French national flag is also their official flag. CMD (talk) 10:44, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

ISO 3166-1
Does any one know (by reference to sources) why this territory is not included on the above mentioned ISO list? Thanks. Frenchmalawi (talk) 23:09, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Government
There seems to be confusion about the name of the Administrator of these bases. The panel at the top of the page gives the name Air Vice Marshal (AVM) William Stacey but under the heading "Politics" in the main body of the text, the name of AVM Graham Stacey is given. Are these the same person? Haynestre (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:09, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

The article points out that there are no elections to any A&D Government instutions, but that generally British people living there can vote iN UK Elections as overseas/service voters, what about Cypriot Inhabitants? Do they vote in Republic of Cyprus Elections? If so where are A&D part of a Geographic Constituency in the Cypriot Parliament, or local government unit etc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.85.54.78 (talk) 15:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Tourism
As lots of tourists visit Cyprus - so will I do soon - I have a question about access to the zones of Akrotiri and Dhekelia. Are they totally closed, for military reasons? Will Cypriots residing in the zones freely travel in and out? What about us visitors from other countries? Yes, myself I am not even British ... TorSch (talk) 18:19, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You can freely transit in and out of the SBAs with no passport controls, indeed some of the island's main roads go straight through them. The only places you're not allowed are the actual military installations (such as RAF Akrotiri), which are well signposted and don't block off transit routes to anywhere else. The obvious exception, of course, is the ESBA-TRNC border on the Famagusta Road. SalopianJames (talk) 20:58, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Then I will soon be able to add one (or two) of "European special status areas" to my list of visited countries and areas. TorSch (talk) 21:15, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

EEA
There is an image on this page captioned "The UK's potential claim to 2 EEAs off Cyprus". What is an EEA? Is it the same as (perhaps typo for?) exclusive economic zone (EEZ)? Naomhain (talk) 18:35, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Postal services
Does anyone know who operates the A&D postal services? British Post Office? Cyrus postal services? I know they don't have their own stamps, but do they used British or Cyprus stamps? Or something else? Ptilinopus (talk) 14:26, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Criticisms and speculation
The paragraph on criticisms and speculation starts with: "On 29 August 2013". Further on it reads: "on 27 August 2013". This anti-chronological way of writing here makes it hard for me to follow the discourse. Is there a purpose for it, is it an error, or could it best be rewritten?Redav (talk) 12:49, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The 29th August date is a bit overly precise. The particular reference that has been made was published on that date but the ariticle is making a more generalised point. Probably "During August" would be better? Naomhain (talk) 15:11, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation about the publishing date, I also realized that the tense used was confusing to me. I changed one sentence to: "Two days earlier, on 27 August 2013, the Cypriot foreign minister, Ioannis Kasoulides had moved to calm Cypriot concerns, saying that the British bases were unlikely to play a major part in any intervention."Redav (talk) 21:54, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Territorial waters
The description of territorial waters is unclear and probably contradictory:

"The northern part is an enclave, like the two villages, whereas the southern part is located by the sea, and therefore not an enclave, though it has no territorial waters of its own.

Territorial waters of three nautical miles are claimed, and the right according to the laws of the United Nations to extend the claim of up to twelve nautical miles is reserved."

Please clarify this. Verbcatcher (talk) 02:03, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

File:UK SBA EEZ.png
what are your sources for this image? 213.7.147.34 (talk) 13:23, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I have removed the map as unsourced. All material added must be supported by reliable sources, regardless of if it's text that is being added or a map. Thomas.W talk 13:40, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

 * Territorial waters of 3 nmi are claimed, and the right according to the laws of the United Nations to extend the claim of up to 12 nmi is reserved. (http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmhansrd/cm130325/text/130325w0002.htm#130325w0002.htm_wqn0 ; Hansard "Parliament of the United Kingdom" 25.03.2013). The UK has a potential claim to an exclusive economic zone out to 200 nmi (that could include the Aphrodite gas field), as the treaty establishing the Republic of Cyprus (Annex I, Section III) specifically excluded any Cypriot claim to the two maritime areas adjacent to the bases. (http://books.google.com/?id=E7-menNPxREC&pg=PA220 International Boundaries, A Geopolitical Atlas.), (''US State Department Bureau of Intelligence and Research, International Boundary Study 1972, http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/61520.pdf )

 * I will extend this. Alexyflemming (talk) 13:45, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * So this is your own interpretation of what a potential claim might look like. 213.7.147.34 (talk) 13:56, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * A potential claim is very different from an actual claim, which you presented it as when adding your map to the article. Your source, as presented above, is also ten years older than UNCLOS (which is from 1982), meaning that your source only refers to the 3nm territorial water zone, and can not be used as a reference for the map you've drawn. Which in turn means that your map is original research/synthesis of published sources, and can not be used in the article. Thomas.W talk 14:05, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

A. The Parliament of United Kingdom
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmhansrd/cm130325/text/130325w0002.htm#130325w0002.htm_wqn0 Cyprus Andrew Rosindell: To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what assessment he has made of whether the UK's sovereign base areas in Cyprus have a territorial water and a claim to a continental shelf; and if he will make a submission to the Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf, in accordance with article 76, paragraph 8, of the United Nations convention on the law of the sea on this matter. [149606]

Mr Lidington: The adjacent territorial sea boundaries between the two sovereign base areas and the Republic of Cyprus are defined in annex A of the treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus, 19 August 1960. Presently, both sovereign base areas claim a territorial sea out to three nautical miles but we have reserved our rights to claim up to 12 nautical miles on their behalf, as provided for under the UN convention on the law of the sea (UNCLOS). Alexyflemming (talk) 13:53, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

B. Ewan W. Anderso: "International Boundaries: A Geopolitical Atlas"
http://books.google.com.tr/books?id=E7-menNPxREC&pg=PA220 Maritime boundaries: The only maritime boundary settlement reached is with the UK over the sovereign base areas: Akrotiri and Dhekelia (1960).

Cyprus-United Kingdom (Sovereign Base Areas) (1960): The four territorial sea boundaries define for each of the two bases, Akrotiri and Dhekelia, the areas within which Cyprus may not claim territorial waters. They are equidistant or modified equidistant lines, constructed from simplified perpendiculars to the general direction of the coastline. These boundaries were directly influenced by security concerns.

There is a map in page 221! The openings of territorial waters of SBAs of UK is just the same as the one that appears in the right map! Alexyflemming (talk) 14:04, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Having reserved the right to extend the territorial waters to 12nm is very different from claiming the full EEZ, as you imply they do in your map. Thomas.W talk 14:08, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I did not claim/state UK claims the whole 200-nautical mile territorial sea. I state "potential" EEZ that UK can claim at most according to UNCLOS 1982. See the informatory text below the map. Is it OK for you that an extra word "potential" added to the map?Alexyflemming (talk) 14:23, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

 * Are you deliberately trying to make your posts impossible to read/follow? Cut down on the bolding, underscoring and subheadings, and indent your posts properly. Thomas.W talk 14:16, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

C. US International Boundary Study, SBAs of UK in Cyprus island, 1972
When Cyprus became independent in 1960, the United Kingdom retained, as sovereign British territory, certain base areas on the island. These non-ceded lands did not pass to the new state. The limits between the base areas and Cyprus were precisely delimited as international boundaries, and provisions were made for the demarcation on the lines. In addition, Section 3 of the Treaty Concerning the Establishment of the Republic of Cyprus provided for territorial sea boundaries between the Republic and the U.K. Sovereign Base Area (SBA). These limits also may have a potential influence on continental shelf boundaries although the possibility is not dealt with specifically in the treaty. Section 3 states: 1. The Republic of Cyprus shall not claim, as part of its territorial sea, waters lying between Line I and Line II as described in paragraph 2 of this Section, or between Line III and Line IV as described therein. 2. The lines for the purposes of paragraph 1 of this Section shall be as follows:- Line I: From the position of the low-water line lying in a 163º direction from Point No. 57 D/1, as defined in Schedule A to this Annex, in a 163 direction for 6.85 miles; then in a 207 direction for 3 miles; and then in a 204 direction. Line II: From the position on the low-water line lying in a 108-1/2º direction from Point 59 A/5, as defined in Schedule A to this Annex, in a 108-1/2 direction for 7.8 miles; and then in a 136 direction. Line III: From the position on the low-water line lying in a 170 direction from Point No. 41 B/10, and defined in Schedule B to this Annex, in a 170 direction for 3.8 miles; then in a 136 direction for 3.1 miles; and then in a 156 direction. Line IV: From the position on the low-water line lying in a 103º direction from Point No. 42 B/3, as defined in Schedule B to this Annex; in a 103 direction for 0.9 miles; then in a 150 direction for 6.3 miles; and then in a 176. 3. In paragraph 2 of this Section, the distances quoted are in sea miles reckoned at 1,582 international metres to one sea mile, and the bearings are referred to the True North and are given in degrees reckoned clockwise from 000 (North) to 359.

The Schedules A and B cited in the Section list the various United Kingdom base sites mentioned in the agreement. The specified points were plotted on large-scale maps which were deposited with the treaty but never publicly printed. The U.K. Government, however, has informed us that the values of the four points are as follows: 57 D/1 48401098 Cyprus Metric Grid; 59 A/5 71971008 Cyprus Metric Grid; 41 B/10 564009.7 E UTM Grid Coordinates; 3871228.2 42 B/3 582264.6 UTM Grid Coordinates; 3869698.3 The four specific lines have been printed on the attached charts and represent the limits between the territorial waters of the U.K. SBA and the Republic. The former would follow the United Kingdom claim for territorial waters of 3 nautical miles while Cyprus claims 12. The distances as measured from the normal baseline have been noted on the map. Directional alignments of the boundaries change at distances greater than 3 nautical miles from the baseline. Azimuths do not, however, change beyond 12 nautical miles. In each instance, the terminal limits in the sea boundaries have not been designated; presumably they may be continued indefinitely or until the adjacent lines connect. Since the 12-mile limit from the baseline could have been determined precisely, the non-termination must have been deliberate. Logically, the decision could be based on: a) the concern that one party might extend its territorial sea to a distance which would envelop or enclose the sea of the other; or 2) the anticipated need for the limits to serve as a continental shelf or seabed boundary beyond the territorial sea. The 100-fathom line on the chart, which is situated within the 3-mile limit (along the boundaries), approximates the 200-meter depth limit cited in the Convention on the Continental Shelf.

What I mean is that: I did not draw the limiting boundaries in the map according to my guess or thoughts, I draw them according to international agreements.Alexyflemming (talk) 14:30, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No you didn't, the claimed EEZ in your map is pure fantasy, as can be seen here: Exclusive economic zone. There's a map there showing the official EEZ of Cyprus, with no British claim. Thomas.W talk 14:53, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * George Kerevan (Beware Cyprus repeat at Faslane, 12.07.2013): "...the Cyprus SBA also claims control over territorial waters to three miles out, and conceivably can claim access to an exclusive economic zone out to 200 miles, reaching the lucrative Aphrodite Gas Field. ..."
 * http://www.newsnetscotland.scot/index.php/scottish-opinion/7718-beware-cyprus-repeat-at-faslaneAlexyflemming (talk) 15:00, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * That's pure speculation, and we don't do speculation here at WP, per WP:CRYSTAL. Thomas.W talk 15:11, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * This is very simple. Nobody knows what the boundaries of a potential British claim might be. We can make guesses, some more educated than others, but they'd only be that: guesses. 213.7.147.34 (talk) 15:13, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * * 1. No British Claim? See the followings:
 * Mr Lidington: "Presently, both sovereign base areas claim a territorial sea out to 3 nautical miles but we have RESERVED our rights to claim up to 12 nautical miles on their behalf, as provided for under the UN convention on the law of the sea (UNCLOS)"
 * So, UK says "I have right up to 3 NM, and RESERVED up to 12 NM". UK says RESERVED, not RELEASED!
 * Also: http://cyprusscene.com/2014/10/30/52052/ :
 * Cameron asks whether Cyprus can have an exclusive economic zone before the solution of the Cyprus problem
 * It was reported that during the EU summit in Brussels, where Greek Cypriot leader Nikos Anastasiades could not attend due to his illness, UK Prime Minister David Cameron asked "Can Cyprus have an Exclusive Economic Zone before the solution of the  Cyprus problem?" and opposed to the Exclusive Economic Zone unilaterally declared by Greek Cypriot Administration in the Eastern Mediterranean. The Greek Cypriot daily Fileleftheros gave the news with the headlines "London and Ankara hand in hand... Cameron objected to the Exclusive Economic Zone of Cyprus Republic at the EU summit". The paper furthermore alleged that, UK tried to force South Cyprus to suspend all its activities concerning the hydrocarbon drilling in the Eastern Mediterranean. Fileleftheros also reported that, in the absence of Greek Cypriot leader Nikos Anastasiades, UK Prime Minister Cameron challenged and opposed the existence of Exclusive Economic Zone of Cyprus in front of all the leaders who attended  the summit.Alexyflemming (talk) 18:19, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * * 2. Everybody can calculate the max potential EEZ of UK SBAs. There is already an agreement and drawn lines up to 3NM towards the sea between Rep. of Cyprus and UK. UNCLOS 1982 says max is 200 NM. Hence, "extending the straight lines from 3NM to 200NM" is not that difficult!Alexyflemming (talk) 18:25, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * We still don't do speculations, and "calculating the max potential EEZ of UK SBAs" on your own is original research, and not allowed. Also note that your sources only seem to support that the UK has reserved the right to claim territorial waters to 12nm, not the EEZ you've added to your map. And stop using, it makes your posts very difficult to read, and is very irritating. Thomas.W talk 18:47, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * "Max potential EEZ is 200NM" is not my WP:OR; It is one of the laws of UNCLOS-1982.
 * Hector Kolonas (16.03.2014): "And the plot thickens: SBA could claim Aphrodite Gas Field in their own EEZ"
 * http://www2.onthisisland.com/plot-thickens-sba-claim-aphrodite-gas-field/2014/03/16/
 * Dan (13.07.204): "We have a theoretical right to claim a 200mile EEZ into an area..."
 * http://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/2014/07/defence-2015-beyond-part-3-sovereign-territories/
 * FHGWS (30.09.2013): "The UK also has a potential claim to an exclusive economic zone out to 200 miles (that could include the Aphrodite gas field), as the treaty establishing the Republic of Cyprus (Annex I, Section III) specifically excluded any Cypriot claim to the two maritime areas adjacent to the bases."
 * http://www.topix.com/forum/world/cyprus/T472IST6O607TTKU1 Alexyflemming (talk) 19:30, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

 * All this is nonsense. Your sources are either WP:PRIMARY or unreliable. Random websites like Hector Kolonas and forums are junk sources. Actually Hector Kolonas is referring to the edit added by blocked sock Gasmonitor:
 * This is typical of the garbage you want to add to Wikipedia. Nothing new here. The rest is pure speculation from primary sources. Do not waste the time of good-faith editors with your incessant attempts at propaganda and defence of the edits of blocked socks. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 19:35, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

 * This SPA is supporting the edits of sock who added this synthesis into the article before he got blocked by checkuser. Sock Gasmonitor used exactly the same arguments and sources as this SPA. I can hear a lot of quacking. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις  20:02, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * In fact, Gasmonitor uploaded an image that was named almost exactly the same ('EEA' for 'EEZ') that was deleted. 213.7.147.34 (talk) 20:11, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * It seems to have been the first image here, taken from the blog post Alexy's linked to above, where he also left a comment. The plot thickens.... 213.7.147.34 (talk) 20:21, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed it does. Thank you very much IP editor for your excellent investigation. I'll look into this further. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:29, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I just saw the comment on that website from someone with a very similar name:
 * Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:37, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Dr.K., there is 100% regression that the user IP31 and IP213 have the same baseline. Is this coincidence?
 * Dr.K., whenever you have weak arguements, you distort to two paths: 1. WP Policy tag bombardment 2. Sockpuppet accusations. I clearly gave the sources above. If Prime Minister of UK (who speaks and acts on behalf of UK) has no importance in this issue, what should I do more??!!! David Cameron should be an arbitrary man according to you just as Olly Rehn is arbitrary man. All are arbitrary...?
 * Notice, there are NO natural gas and oil exploration of Rep. of Cyprus within 12 NM of Akrotiri and Dhekelia (the area RESERVED by UK). Is that coincidence as well?!! I am sure some other IPs other than IP31, IP 213,...will participate in supporting you in this as well! What a coincidence, no proper Wiki user with a username-set participates in you.Alexyflemming (talk) 20:50, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No, it's not coincidence. I'm the same person as IP31. I even say so on my talk page. Each one of my talk pages has a link leading to my previous IP. 213.7.147.34 (talk) 20:54, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

 * Noone is agreeing with your synthesis and original research on this page. Your record supporting the blocked sock and his original research is also clear. As far as your attacks and continuing harassment of the IP editor and myself, I have the answer for you. I will give you yet another harassment warning on your talk. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:59, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You are distorting from the discussion. Do not get away from the discussion. If you have something to say, defence it as much as you can. Olly Rehn, "A single representative of EU". Now, David Cameroon, a single representative of UK?Alexyflemming (talk) 21:04, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * It's besides the point. This map is OR. And that's the end of it. 213.7.147.34 (talk) 21:05, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree with the IP editor and . You may not want to admit it but noone is agreeing with your support of the sock edits and your WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. Period. End of story. WP:DROPTHESTICK. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις  21:11, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, then. Let's keep the discussion open so that the others may participate and express their views. I hope, some new views will appear as well.Alexyflemming (talk) 21:14, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You can ask at the WikiProjects if you'd like (see the WP banner at the top). 213.7.147.34 (talk) 21:42, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

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Princeton wu, you made three edits yesterday that significantly changed the lead. The edits were interconnected, some changes fine but most not, so it was simpler to revert them all rather than pick through each one. I gave the main reason for reverting and asked you to take to talk if you wanted, as you should have as your edits had been reasonably disputed. I have reverted you again for the same reason. Please do not re-revert again before getting consensus here first. "A and D" together form one BOT, which is the subject of this article. That makes them, in this context, a singular noun, requiring 'is', not 'are'. For further debate about this please see the Falkland Islands talk page where a similar dispute occurred recently. Rollback, as I will now do, does not allow a edit summary, which I have given here. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 08:00, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Roger 8 Roger, my edits had NOT been reasonably disputed, since you are the only one disputing it (by unilaterally reverting everything). The lead paragraph has long run-on sentences, and the "Reviews" section is out of place it's nebulous what this paragraph is trying to achieve (A review of A&D?). A lot of other information on the page are redundant as well. If one has to take to the Talk page everytime one makes an edit, nothing will get edited on WP. I have no intention on embarking on an edit-war so if you like keep the status quo (which I think is a poorly written article), go for it. Princeton wu (talk) 16:44, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Military Use
I note that the following is currently at the very end of the Page, under the heading of criticisms etc.
 * "Ayios Nikolaos Station, in the ESBA, is an ELINT (electronic intelligence) listening station of the UKUSA Agreement intelligence network.[54] The UKUSA signals intelligence system is sometimes known as "ECHELON".[55]"

This is not really anything to do with the paragraph it is in, but I suggest it is part of what the Page should have a section on- its Military Use. I suggest a brief summary of the kind of things it is known to be used for and instances of action. IceDragon64 (talk) 23:12, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

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Jingle All the Way

Jingle All the Way is a 1996 American Christmas family comedy film directed by Brian Levant. It stars Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sinbad as two rival fathers, mattress salesman Howard Langston (Schwarzenegger) and postal worker Myron Larabee (Sinbad), both desperately trying to purchase a Turbo-Man action figure for their respective sons on a last-minute shopping spree on Christmas Eve. The film's title is borrowed from the lyrics of the popular Christmas song "Jingle Bells".

Inspired by real-life Christmas toy sell-outs for such items as Cabbage Patch Kids, the film was written by Randy Kornfield. Producer Chris Columbus rewrote the script, adding in elements of satire about the commercialization of Christmas, and the project was picked up by 20th Century Fox. Delays to Fox's reboot of Planet of the Apes allowed Schwarzenegger to come on board the film, while Columbus opted to cast Sinbad instead of Joe Pesci as Myron. Jingle All the Way was set and filmed in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul at a variety of locations, including the Mall of America. After five weeks filming, production moved to California where scenes such as the end parade were shot. The film's swift production meant merchandising was limited to a replica of the Turbo-Man action figure used in the film.

Upon release, Jingle All the Way grossed $129.8 million worldwide but received generally negative reviews from critics, though the humor and Sinbad and Schwarzenegger's performances received some praise. In 2001, Fox was ordered to pay $19 million to Murray Hill Publishing for stealing the idea for the film; the verdict was overturned three years later. Jingle All the Way is the third and final collaboration between Sinbad and Phil Hartman after Coneheads (1993) and Houseguest (1995), and the last film featuring Hartman to be released during his lifetime before his death in 1998. In 2014, the film was followed by a sequel in name only, Jingle All the Way 2, starring Larry the Cable Guy.

Plot
Workaholic Minneapolis mattress salesman Howard Langston loves his wife, Liz, and nine-year-old son, Jamie, but rarely finds time for them. He is often put in a bad light by his neighbor, divorcé Ted Maltin, who harbors unrequited feelings for Liz. After missing Jamie's karate class graduation, Howard resolves to redeem himself by fulfilling his Christmas wish for a Turbo-Man action figure, a popular television superhero; despite Liz actually having asked him to buy one two weeks earlier, which Howard forgot about. On Christmas Eve, Howard sets out to buy the toy, but finds that every store has sold out, and in the process develops a rivalry with Myron Larabee, a postal worker father with the same goal.

In desperation, Howard attempts to buy a figure from a counterfeit ring run by con men dressed in Santa suits, which results in a massive fight in the warehouse that is broken up by the police. Howard narrowly escapes arrest by posing as an undercover officer. Exhausted at his failure and out of fuel, Howard goes to a diner and calls home, intending to tell Liz the truth. Jamie answers the phone but keeps reminding him of his promise to be home in time for the annual Holiday Wintertainment Parade. Losing his patience, Howard yells at Jamie, and he feels guilty and depressed after Jamie scolds him for not keeping his promises.

Howard finds Myron at the diner and they share their experiences over coffee, where Myron tells him of his resentment towards his own father for failing to get him a Johnny Seven OMA for Christmas. During their conversation, Howard and Myron overhear a radio station advertising a competition for a Turbo-Man doll. The ensuing fight between them results in the diner's phone getting disconnected, forcing them to race to the radio station on foot, where the DJ reveals to them that the competition was actually for a Turbo-Man gift certificate. The police are alerted (the DJ having earlier called them when Howard and Myron showed up), but Howard and Myron escape after Myron threatens the officers by pretending one of his packages is a bomb. Officer Alexander Hummell, whom Howard has run into several times already, investigates the package, only to have it detonate in his face, revealing that it actually was a bomb.

Upon returning to his Suburban, Howard finds it stripped by car thieves. He takes a tow truck home, where he finds Ted putting the star on his family's Christmas tree. In retaliation, Howard starts to steal the Turbo-Man doll Ted bought for his son, Johnny, but can't bring himself to do it. Unfortunately, Liz catches him in the act and Howard is left alone while his family goes to the Christmas parade with Ted and Johnny.

After dropping off Jamie and Johnny, Ted attempts to seduce Liz, but she violently rejects him by hitting him with a thermos of eggnog. Meanwhile, remembering his promise to Jamie to go to the parade, Howard decides to attend as well, but runs into Hummell again. The resulting chase leads to Howard hiding inside a storage room, where he is mistaken for the actor portraying Turbo-Man and dresses in the highly technological costume. As Turbo-Man, Howard uses his chance to present a limited-edition action figure to Jamie, but they are confronted by Myron dressed as Turbo-Man's archenemy, Dementor.

Despite Howard's pleas for Myron to stop, a long chase ensues, involving a jetpack flight. Myron grabs the toy from Jamie but is cornered by the police, while Howard rescues Jamie. Howard reveals himself to his family and apologizes for his shortcomings. When Ted arrives at the scene of the parade, Johnny points Howard as Turbo Man to him, which makes Ted flee and dragging Johnny in fear and humiliation. Officer Hummell returns the toy to Jamie and thanks Howard (as Turbo-Man) with a job on the force, to which Howard returns the thanks and - much to Hummel's shock - apologizes to him for the previous confrontations. Myron is handcuffed and sadly laments about not having a toy for his own son; Jamie overhears him and decides to give the toy to Myron for his son, proclaiming his father as his true hero. Touched by Jamie's act of kindness, Myron apologizes for his earlier discrepancies. The crowd carries Howard away in a hero's fashion as Myron, Liz, and Jamie happily watch.

In a post-credits scene, Howard finishes decorating their Christmas tree later that night by putting the star on top. However, after kissing and hugging, Liz asks Howard what he got her for Christmas, and he realizes with a shock that he forgot her gift.

Development
The film draws inspiration from the high demand for Christmas toys such as the Cabbage Patch Kids and Mighty Morphin Power Rangers in the late 1980s and early 1990s, which often led to intense searching and occasional violence among shoppers, such as the Cabbage Patch riots, over finding the toys. Randy Kornfield wrote the film's original screenplay after witnessing his in-laws go to a Santa Monica toy store at dawn in order to get his son a Power Ranger. While admitting to missing the clamor for the Cabbage Patch Kids and Power Rangers, producer Chris Columbus experienced a similar situation in 1995 when he attempted to obtain a Buzz Lightyear action figure from the film Toy Story, released that year. As a result, he rewrote Kornfield's script, which was accepted by 20th Century Fox. Columbus was always "attracted to the dark side of the happiest holiday of the year", so wrote elements of the film as a satire of the commercialization of Christmas.

Brian Levant was hired to direct the film. Columbus said Levant "underst[ood] the humor in the material" and "was very animated and excited, and he had a vision of what he wanted to do". Levant said "The story that was important to me was between the father and son ... it's a story about love, and a father's journey to deliver it in the form of a Turbo Man doll. The fact that I got to design a toy line and do the commercials and make pajamas and comic books was fun for me as a filmmaker. But at its root, the movie's about something really sweet. It's about love and building a better family. I think that's consistent with everything I've done."

Arnold Schwarzenegger was quickly cast. He became available in February 1996 after Fox's remake of Planet of the Apes was held up again; Columbus also exited that project to work on Jingle All the Way. The film marks Schwarzenegger's fourth appearance as the lead in a comedy film, following Twins (1988), Kindergarten Cop (1990) and Junior (1994). Schwarzenegger was paid a reported $20 million for the role. He enjoyed the film, having experienced last-minute Christmas shopping himself, and was attracted to playing an "ordinary" character in a family film. Columbus initially wanted Joe Pesci to play Myron. Comedian Sinbad was chosen instead, partly due to his similar height and size to Schwarzenegger. Sinbad was suggested for the part by Schwarzenegger's agent, but the producers felt he was unsuited to the role of a villain as it could harm his clean, family-oriented comedy act and reputation, although Sinbad felt the character would generate the audience's sympathy rather than hate. Furthermore, he missed the audition due to his appearance with First Lady Hillary Clinton and musician Sheryl Crow on the USO tour of Bosnia and Herzegovina, but Columbus waited for him to return to allow him to audition and, although Sinbad felt he had "messed" it up, he was given the part. He improvised the majority of his lines in the film; Schwarzenegger also improvised many of his responses in his conversations with Sinbad's character.

Filming
Filming took place in Minnesota for five weeks from April 15, 1996; at the time, it was the largest film production to ever take place in the state. Jingle All the Way was set and filmed in the Twin Cities metropolitan area of Minnesota at locations such as Bloomington's Mall of America, Mickey's Diner, downtown Minneapolis, Linden Hills, residential areas of Edina and primarily downtown Saint Paul. Unused shops in the Seventh place Mall area were redecorated to resemble Christmas decorated stores, while the Energy Park Studios were used for much of the filming and the Christmas lights stayed up at Rice Park for use in the film. The Mall of America and the state's "semi-wintry weather" proved attractive for the studio. Although Schwarzenegger stated that the locals were "well-behaved" and "cooperative", Levant often found filming "impossible" due to the scale and noise of the crowds who came to watch production, especially in the Mall of America, but overall found the locals to be "respectful" and "lovely people." Levant spent several months in the area before filming in order to prepare. The film uses artistic license by treating Minneapolis and Saint Paul as one city, as this was logistically easier; the police are labeled "Twin Cities Police" in the film. Additionally, the city's Holidazzle Parade is renamed the Wintertainment Parade and takes place on 2nd Avenue during the day, rather than Nicollet Mall at night. Levant wanted to film the parade at night but was overruled for practical reasons.

The parade was filmed at Universal Studios Hollywood in California on the New York Street set, due to safety concerns. The set was designed to resemble 2nd Avenue; the parade was shot from above by helicopters and stitched into matte shots of the real-life street. It took three weeks to film, with 1,500 extras being used in the scene, along with three custom designed floats. Other parts of the film to be shot in Los Angeles included store interiors, and the warehouse fight scene between Howard and the criminal Santas, for which a Pasadena furniture warehouse was used. Turbo-Man was created and designed for the film. This meant the commercials and scenes from the Turbo-Man TV series were all shot by Levant, while all of the Turbo-Man merchandise, packaging and props shown in the film were custom made one-offs and designed to look "authentic, as if they all sprang from the same well." Along with Columbus and Levant, production designer Leslie McDonald and character designer Tim Flattery crafted Turbo-Man, Booster and Dementor and helped make the full-size Turbo-Man suit for the film's climax. Principal production finished in August; Columbus "fine-tun[ed] the picture until the last possible minute," using multiple test audiences "to see where the big laughs actually lie."

Music
TVT Records released the film's soundtrack album on Audio CD on November 26, 1996. It features only two of composer David Newman's pieces from Jingle All the Way, but features many of the songs by other artists included in the film, as well as other Christmas songs and new tracks by the Brian Setzer Orchestra. Intrada Music Group released a Special Collection limited edition of Newman's full 23-track score on November 3, 2008.

Marketing
As Schwarzenegger only signed on for the film in February and the film was shot so quickly, only six and a half months were available for merchandising, instead of the ideal year. As such, merchandising was limited to a 13.5-inch replica $25 Talking Turbo-Man action figure and the West Coast exclusive Turbo-Man Time Racer vehicle, while no tie-in promotions could be secured. Despite this, several critics wrote that the film was only being made in order to sell the toy. Columbus dismissed this notion, stating that with only roughly 200,000 Turbo-Man toys being made, the merchandising was far less than the year's other releases, such as Space Jam and 101 Dalmatians. The film's release coincided with the Tickle Me Elmo craze, in which high demand for the doll during the 1996 Christmas season led to store mobbing similar to that depicted for Turbo-Man. The world premiere was held on November 16, 1996, at the Mall of America in Bloomington where parts of the film were shot. A day of events was held to celebrate the film's release and Schwarzenegger donated memorabilia from the film to the Mall's Planet Hollywood.

Home media
The film was released on VHS on October 28, 1997, and in November 1998 it was released on DVD. It was re-released on DVD in December 2004, followed by an extended director's cut in October 2007, known as the "Family Fun Edition". It contained several minutes of extra footage, as well as other DVD extras such as a behind the scenes featurette. In December of the following year, the Family Fun Edition was released on Blu-ray Disc.

Lawsuit
In 1998, Murray Hill Publishing sued 20th Century Fox for $150,000, claiming that the idea for the film was stolen from a screenplay they had purchased from high school teacher Brian Webster entitled Could This Be Christmas? They said the script had 36 similarities with Jingle All the Way, including the plot, dialogue and character names. Murray Hill President Bob Laurel bought the script from Webster in 1993, and sent it to Fox and other studios in 1994 but received no response and claimed the idea was copied by Kornfield, who was Fox's script reader. In 2001, Fox were found guilty of stealing the idea and ordered to pay $19 million ($15 million in damages and $4 million in legal costs) to Murray Hill, with Webster to receive a portion. Laurel died a few months after the verdict, before receiving any of the money. On appeal, the damages figure was lowered to $1.5 million, before the verdict itself was quashed in 2004 after a judge decided the idea was not stolen, as Fox had bought Kornfield's screenplay before he or anybody else at Fox had read Could This Be Christmas?

Box office
Opening on November 22, Jingle All the Way made $12.1 million in its first weekend, opening at #4 behind Star Trek: First Contact, Space Jam and Ransom; it went on to gross $129 million worldwide, recouping its $75 million budget in the first ten days of release. The film was released in the United Kingdom on December 6, 1996, and topped the country's box office that weekend.

Critical response
On Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an approval rating of 20% based on 46 reviews and an average rating of. The site's critical consensus reads, "Arnold Schwarzenegger tries his best, but Jingle All the Way suffers from an uneven tone, shifting wildly from a would-be satire on materialism to an antic, slapstick yuk-fest." On Metacritic the film has a score of 34 out of 100 based on 23 critics, indicating "generally unfavorable reviews". Audiences polled by CinemaScore gave the film an average grade of "B+" on an A+ to F scale.

Emanuel Levy felt the film "highly formulaic" and criticized Levant's direction as little more advanced than a television sitcom. Although he felt that the script did not provide sufficient opportunity for Hartman, Wilson and Conrad to give exceptional performances, he opined that "Schwarzenegger has developed a light comic delivery, punctuated occasionally by an ironic one-liner," while "Sinbad has good moments". Neil Jeffries of Empire disagreed, feeling Schwarzenegger to be "wooden" and Sinbad to be "trying desperately to be funnier than his hat" but praised Lloyd as the "saving grace" of the film.

The New York Times critic Janet Maslin felt the film lacked any real plot, failed in its attempt at satire, should have included Myron's only mentioned son and "mostly wasted" Hartman, while Levant's direction was "listless". Similarly, the BBC's Neil Smith criticized the film's script, its focus on the commercialization of Christmas, as well as Schwarzenegger's performance which shows "the comic timing of a dead moose," but singled out Hartman for praise. Chicago Tribune critic Michael Wilmington panned the film, wondering why the characters (primarily Howard) acted so illogically: "Howard Langston is supposed to be a successful mattress manufacturer, but the movie paints him as a hot-tempered buffoon without a sensible idea in his head." Jack Garner of USA Today condemned the film, finding it more "cynical" than satirical, stating "this painfully bad movie has been inspired strictly by the potential jingle of cash registers." He wrote of Levant's directorial failure as he "offers no ... sense of comic timing," while "pauses in the midst of much of the dialogue are downright painful." Trevor Johnston suggested that the film "seems to mark a point of decline in the Schwarzenegger career arc" and the anti-consumerism message largely failed, with "Jim Belushi's corrupt mall Santa with his stolen-goods warehouse ... provid[ing] the film's sole flash of dark humour."

IGN's Mike Drucker praised its subject matter as "one of the few holiday movies to directly deal with the commercialization of Christmas" although felt the last twenty minutes of the film let it down, as the first hour or so had "some family entertainment" value if taken with a "grain of salt". He concluded the film was "a member of the so-corny-its-good genre," while "Arnold delivers plenty of one-liners ripe for sound board crank callers." Jamie Malanowski of The New York Times praised the film's satirical premise but felt it was "full of unrealized potential" because "the filmmakers [wrongly] equate mayhem with humor." Roger Ebert gave the film two-and-a-half stars, writing that he "liked a lot of the movie", which he thought had "energy" and humor which would have mass audience appeal. He was, though, disappointed by "its relentlessly materialistic view of Christmas, and by the choice to go with action and (mild) violence over dialogue and plot." Kevin Carr of 7M Pictures concluded that while the film is not very good, as a form of family entertainment it is "surprisingly fun."

Sequel
Over 18 years after the release of the original film, a stand-alone sequel, Jingle All the Way 2, was released straight-to-DVD in December 2014. Directed by Alex Zamm and produced by WWE Studios and 20th Century Fox, the film has a similar plot to the original, but is otherwise not connected and has none of the original cast or characters. The lead roles were instead played by Larry the Cable Guy and Santino Marella.

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Barwon

Barwon may refer to:
 * Barwon, a horse which won the 1862 Victoria Derby
 * Electoral district of Barwon, in the New South Wales Legislative Assembly, Australia
 * HM Prison Barwon, a maximum security prison in Lara, Victoria, Australia
 * HMAS Barwon (K406), a Royal Australian Navy River class frigate

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Yamanashi Prefecture (山梨県 Yamanashi-ken) is a prefecture located in the Chūbu region on the island of Honshū, Japan. The capital is the city of Kōfu.

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Celebrate: The Three Dog Night Story, 1965–1975

Celebrate: The Three Dog Night Story, 1965–1975 is a two-CD anthology of Three Dog Night recordings released in 1993 which includes some pre-3DN material from co-lead singers Danny Hutton and Cory Wells (none from Chuck Negron), as well as an unreleased track "Time to Get Alone", penned and produced by Brian Wilson from the band's brief "Redwood" incarnation. It covers all of the band's singles, as well as some album tracks, in the band's career.

Track listing
Disc 1: Disc 2:
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 * 4) "Time to Get Alone" (Brian Wilson) – 2:49 Performed by Redwood, previously unreleased
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 * 10) "Heaven Is in Your Mind" (Jim Capaldi, Steve Winwood, Chris Wood) – 3:02
 * 11) "Easy to Be Hard" (Galt MacDermot, James Rado, Gerome Ragni) – 3:14
 * 12) "Eli's Coming" (Laura Nyro) – 2:48
 * 13) "Celebrate" (Gary Bonner, Alan Gordon) – 3:01
 * 14) "Lady Samantha" (Elton John, Bernie Taupin) – 2:54
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 * 18) "Play Something Sweet (Brickyard Blues)" (Allen Toussaint) – 4:51
 * 19) "'Til the World Ends" (Loggins) – 3:32

Personnel

 * Mike Allsup - guitar
 * Gordon DeWitte - organ
 * Jimmy Greenspoon - keyboard
 * Danny Hutton - vocals
 * Gary Itri - acoustic guitar
 * Skip Konte - keyboard
 * Chuck Negron - vocals
 * Gene Page - conductor
 * Jack Ryland - bass
 * Joe Schermie - bass
 * Floyd Sneed - percussion, drums
 * Ron Stockert - Fender Rhodes
 * Patrick Sullivan - cello
 * Cory Wells - vocals
 * Rusty Young - pedal steel

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 * Producers: Danny Hutton, Jimmy Ienner, Gabriel Mekler, Richard Podolor, Three Dog Night, Brian Wilson, Tom Wilson
 * Executive producer: Andy McKaie
 * Associate producer: Bob Monaco
 * Engineers: Bill Cooper, Dennis Ferrante, Howard Gale, Jimmy Ienner, Jay Messina, Richard Podolor, Carmine Rubino, John Stronach
 * Remastering: Bill Inglot
 * Reissue producer: Gary Stewart
 * Compilation: Bill Inglot, Gary Stewart
 * String arrangements: Jimmie Haskell
 * Research: Andrew Sandoval
 * Design: Lisa Sutton
 * Photography: Ed Caraeff
 * Package coordinator: Geary Chansley


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 * Once upon a time, this article existed along with Barwon River, New South Wales on the page Barwon River. No doubt a bit of NSW vs Vic rivalry flared up, so the page was split. A record of that history from before the split now exists at Talk:Barwon River, Victoria/Old history.--Commander Keane 13:27, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Someone wrote this under Barwon, possibly it should be merged into the Barwon River article, but it sounds like nonsense to me:

''The Barwon river is unique in that its source is the Victoria, Australia high country yets is heads are in the Arabian Gulf. Scientists are still puzzled as to how it crosses the Indian Ocean.

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Artavazd Peleshyan

Artavazd Peleshyan (Արտավազդ (Արթուր) Փելեշյան; also Pelechian, Peleshian; born February 22, 1938) is an Armenian director of essay films, a documentarian in the history of film art, a screenwriter, and a film theorist. He is renowned for developing a style of cinematographic perspective known as distance montage, combining perception of depth with oncoming entities, such as running packs of antelope or hordes of humans. Filmmaker Sergei Parajanov has referred to Peleshyan as "one of the few authentic geniuses in the world of cinema". Peleshyan was awarded the title of Merited Artist of the Armenian SSR in 1979, and Merited Artist of the Russian Federation in 1995.

His films have been described as being on the border between a documentary and a feature film, somewhat reminiscent of the work of such avant-garde filmmakers as Bruce Conner, rather than of conventional documentaries. However, it has been noted that his work, unlike Maya Deren's, is not firmly within the avant-garde, and that it does not try to explore the absurd. Peleshyan's films have been summarized as "a poetic view of life transferred onto film."

He has made extensive use of archive footage and for the first time used only original footage in his most celebrated film, Seasons of the Year, shot by cinematographer Mikhail Vartanov. Telephoto lenses are often used to get "candid camera" shots of people engaging in mundane tasks.

Most of Peleshyan's films are short, ranging from 6 to about 60 minutes long, and feature no dialogue. However, music and sound effects play nearly as important a role in his films as the visual images in contributing towards the artistic whole. Nearly all of his films were shot in black-and-white.

Works
Peleshyan's early films, made when he was still a student at VGIK, were awarded several prizes. Twelve films by Peleshyan are known to exist. The Beginning (Սկիզբը Skizbe) (1967) is a cinematographical essay about the October Revolution of 1917. One of the unique visual effects used in this film is achieved by holding snippets of film still on a single frame, then advancing only for a second or two before again pausing on another, resulting in a stuttering visual effect.

Other important films by him are We (Մենք Menq) (1967), a poetically told history of Armenia and its people, and Inhabitants (Обитатели Obitateli) (1970), a reflection on the relationship between wildlife and humans.

Artavazd Peleshian's most significant film is considered, by many critics, to be Seasons of the Year (Տարվա եղանակները Tarva yeghanaknere) (1975), shot by cinematographer Mikhail Vartanov. It is a look at the contradiction and harmony between humans and nature and was the last collaboration between Peleshian and Vartanov, Armenia's two most important documentary auteurs, who first worked together on The Autumn Pastoral (Աշնանային հովվերգություն Ashnanayin hovvergutyun) (1971).

Peleshyan is also the author of a range of theoretical works, such as his 1988 book, My Cinema (Моё кино Moyo kino).

Being from a country removed from internationally significant cinema circles, Peleshyan's efforts were not initially well-recognized by critics of world cinema. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, he has made two more short films, Life (Կյանք Kyanq) (1993) and The End (1994). He is now living in Moscow. His most recent film, Nature (La nature), was edited at the ZKM | Karlsruhe Film Institute in 2005-2006 and was premiered in 2020.

Personal commentary
In 1998, Peleshyan reflected on his approach to filmmaking and cinematography,

"'It's about what I'm striving for, what we're all striving for - every person, humanity [...] the wishes and desires of the people to ascend, to transcend [...] I was thinking of everything. It's not specifically the seasons of the year or of people: it's everything [...] Eisenstein's montage was linear, like a chain. Distance montage creates a magnetic field around the film [...] Sometimes I don't call my method 'montage'. I'm involved in a process of creating unity. In a sense I've eliminated montage: by creating the film through montage, I have destroyed montage. In the totality, in the wholeness of one of my films, there is no montage, no collision, so as a result montage has been destroyed. In Eisenstein every element means something. For me the individual fragments don't mean anything anymore. Only the whole film has the meaning [...] For me, distance montage opens up the mysteries of the movement of the universe. I can feel how everything is made and put together; I can sense its rhythmic movement.'"

As director

 * Mountain Vigil (1964)
 * Earth of People (1966)
 * The Beginning (1967)
 * Dream (1968)
 * We (1969)
 * Inhabitants (1970)
 * Stellar Minute (1972)
 * Seasons of the Year (1975)
 * Our Century (1982)
 * God in Russia (1984)
 * The End (1992)
 * Life (1993)
 * Nature (2020)

As screenwriter

 * The Autumn Pastoral (1971) (directed by Mikhail Vartanov)
 * Homo Sapiens (1979)
 * Desert (1984)

As actor

 * We and Our Mountains (1969) (as Revaz)
 * The Silence of Peleshyan (2011) (himself)

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