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Talk:Wilhelmina of the Netherlands

Length of reign
I'm looking for some opinions relating to the length of her reign. Technically her reign ceased when the Nazi's took power in the Netherlands and she therefore essentially became a Pretender from 1940 until her return. The head of state of the Netherlands in WWII was Adolf Hitler. Despite not officially abdicating, she was a deposed monarch between this period. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.232.79.82 (talk) 15:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

 * She formed a government in exile as some other monarchs did during the war. The Dutch certainly continued to recognizer her as head of the country, not Hitler. And she did not resign until after the war was over. If she was no longer monarch, she would have had nothing to abdicate from. 2600:1700:BC01:9B0:7D74:380:F306:1582 (talk) 21:31, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Untitled
Hoi from Enschede, The Netherlands

There is a minor impreciseness in the article. The city of Walcheren is not in southern Holland, but in the province of Zeeland. Greetings, Bas and Nic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.75.154.103 (talk) 10:51, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

suggestive entry
I have deleted following entry as it is not factual but suggestive:

Had Wilhelmina not given the throne to her daughter before her death, she would have reigned for 72 years 5 days, which would have been the second-longest reign in Europe (behind that of Louis XIV of France), seventh-longest in the world, and the longest reign by a female monarch in history.

Abercrombieclub (talk) 19:24, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

style
Queen Wilhelmina was never styled as Queen Mother after her abdication. Only a widowed queen consort can style herself Queen Mother, as for example the late Queen Mother of the United Kingdom. Queen Wilhelmina was a Queen in her own right and was therefore styled Princess.

Princess of the Netherlands 's-Gravenhage 09:20, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Er, no, she could have been styled "Queen Wilhelmina" after her abdication, which is how abdicated monarchs are normally referred. Leopold III didn't become "Prince Leopold" after his abdication, for instance. john k 20:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * alas, this is incorrect, Dutch monarchs revert to the title of Prince(ss) upon their abdication, so Queen Wilhelmina became Princess Wilhelmina, and Queen Juliana Priness Juliana. They are only adressed as King or Queen after their death, so now again it would be correct to speak of both Queen Wilhelmina and Juliana --Isolani 05:19, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, Dutch monarchs do, and I wasn't denying that. But the earlier comment by 's-Gravenhage implied that this is a necessity for any monarch who abdicates.  So far as I am aware, Dutch monarchs are relatively unique in reverting to a non-royal title after abdication, which is why I said that she could have been referred to as "Queen Wilhelmina" after her abdication. Obviously, she was not so referred, but there was no particular reason she should not have been.  Do you happen to know how William I was referred to after his abdication?  I somehow doubt he became "Prince William," - which would suggest that Wilhelmina's becoming "Princess Wilhelmina" was without precedence.  (Obviously, there are occasional other examples of former monarchs losing their style of King or Queen, most notably the Duke of Windsor). john k 05:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * my apologies for any misconceptions I might have had; I`m fairly sure that William must have reverted to Prince as the dutch constitution only defines the office of 'King', so of necessity there can be only one King and that must be the reigning one. As the title of Queen is not mentioned in the constitution (yes, this is odd) a Queen-Dowager (such as Emma) could keep her title. But I`ll see if I can find any source which would confirm him as being styled 'prince' iso 'king', tho not in the next few days I`m afraid --Isolani 16:22, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I'd imagine that most constitutional monarchies note that there can only be one king at a time. That doesn't mean that former monarchs don't get to use the style of king.  That is to say, he would not be the King of the Netherlands, but his style would still be "King William."  john k 16:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * yes, I know what you mean, what I`m trying to say is that that would be highly unlikely because it would be considered confusing in a constitutional sense, I checked on King William II, but my political history textbook mentions that he died in office, so that leaves William I to check out. --Isolani 17:11, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * hmmmm it becomes increasingly complex; i have info suggesting he kept his title of "Prince of Orange-Nassau" and another source which described him and his second wife (Countess D'Oultremont) as 'Count and Countess of Nassau' no source styling him 'King' ; confusion upon confusion.. I`m going to go to the library tomorrow to do some research. I do know for certain that under current legislation any ruling monarch automatically reverts to their princely titles. --Isolani 17:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * If we ever do iron it out, it should go under the Dutch monarchy article. john k 17:52, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * What is relevant to this question is to bear in mind that the Orange-Nassau family where a princely (i know, quirky adjective) family before they became royalty. Strictly speaking they are not kings (or queens) in their own right but rather, and solely, because the Dutch constitution of 1815 first created the office of 'King of the Netherlands' which heretofore had not existed. One could argue that the title of 'King' is tied to the office, and the members of the Royal family are princes in their own right and use this title when not holding the office of King (or Queen). --Isolani 23:37, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah, William I was called "His Royal Highness King Willem Frederik, Count of Nassau." See here.  So I was indeed right that there was no particular reason for Wilhelmina not to be Queen Wilhelmina after her abdication.  She could have been "Her Royal Highness Queen Wilhelmina, Countess of Nassau" - or something like that. john k 16:44, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

 * darn you beat me to it! But I think you are jumping to conclusions, Wilhelmina abdicated in 1948 and under current legislation nobody would be styled King / Queen after they abdicated, such legislation may have been (don`t know yet) in force then, I`ll check it out and hopefully leave this talk page with at least some of my dignity intact. --Isolani 19:04, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

--Isolani 19:09, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * this article is rather imprecise and quite POV; it really has to be cleaned up!

 * Then take a stab at it! john k 20:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * well, I am! care to help ? --Isolani 05:16, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

My knowledge of Wilhelmina is fairly limited, so I'm not sure I'd be able to contribute much. Taking a look at what you've done so far, the added details about Wilhelmina in 1940 look good. I do think that the military armistice on May 14 should be mentioned, though. john k 05:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * a propos, I added some more info to the page, and got rid of some nonsense --Isolani 17:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I have added the 'disputed' tag, I think a lot of details in this article are unsubstantiated, cf the history of the article esp last few days. I`m going to spend some time cleaning it up, help would be appreciated. --Isolani 06:54, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Well I have disposed of the more dubious bits, now begins the reconstruction, I`ll use the, quite excellent, dutch wikipedia article on Wilhelmina as a model, for now I`m removing the 'disputed' tag. --Isolani 16:28, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

"Had she not given up the throne, she would have been Queen for 72 years, and would have been the longest serving monarch in the world." --Only at the time. Louis XIV would still have had a longer reign by a few months, and Pepi II of Egypt supposedly reigned for 94 years.--Syd Henderson 17:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Clean up
This page was looking quite a mess, there were info boxes and pictures all over the place. I simply moved them around and alligned them differently. Hope you think it looks better. Mac Domhnaill 23:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

There is a ten year difference between dob in the article and dob under the Queen's portrait. Sorry, but I am unlikely to be proofing or editing articles much in the future, if at all, so would rather have someone who knows how to make the change do so.```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmjarecki (talk • contribs) 03:29, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Err, no. She was born on 31 August 1880, she was 10 years old when she became Queen on 23 November 1890, which is the date under the portrait - the dates of her reign, not of her life. -- Arwel Parry (talk) 21:18, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Problematic part

 * A socialist leader named Troelstra tried to overthrow the government and the Queen. Instead of a violent revolution, he wanted to control the Tweede Kamer, the legislative body of Parliament and hoped to achieve this by means of elections convinced that the working class would support him. However, the popularity of the young Queen helped restore confidence in the government. Wilhelmina brought about a mass-show of support by riding with her daughter through the mobs in an open carriage. It was very clear that the revolution would not succeed.

Could someone please explain how this was an attempted "revolution" and "overthrow," rather than an election and campaign? - Montréalais 15:42, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Following the example of Russia (and in some respects Germany) Troelstra had announced a revolution by the working classes, but instead of support and an actual revolution, people came out and a large demonstration in The Hague took place where people declared themselves to be in favour of the Royal family, so his 'revolution' never took place, but was his intention. The Queen played a small role in the matter, as she and her daughter (and possibly husband, not sure though) rode around town. This event is known as "Troelstras mistake" (Source Anno: http://www.anno.nl/i000942.html) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.174.208.34 (talk) 14:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Bernhard supporter of the nazi's
Although he always claimed himself not to be involved with the NSDAP-party, he was a member of the SA and later the Reiter-SS. This is documented and confirmed by the Dutch Center for War Documentation (NIOD). Bernhard claims he was made member without his consent or knowledge. The statement in this article, therefore, is false: there are documents supporting Bernhard being a nazi (for a short while at least), but he never admitted it. 145.58.239.247 13:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

 * membership of the Reiter-SS does not quite denote 'being a nazi' in any kind of ideological sense, whatever his membership status he seems to have disentangled himself from it soon enough, or at least as soon as he became prince-consort. The phrase in this article might do with a rewrite, as long as the resulting text remains within the bounds of verifiability. --Isolani 13:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Does this article not need to point up the irony that she sent a warship to rescue Paul Kruger from the British after the Boer War (in reality they let him go......) but those same British at her request sent a warship to pick her up in May 1940. Bedwasboy (talk) 07:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

There is no "irony" - the Dutch rescued Kruger because he was a Boer (Afrikaner of Dutch extraction) and their sympathies were with their former countrymen, while the British rescued Wilhelmina because they needed her as a card against the Germnans like they needed the other governments-in-exile. Kruger did not represent a government in exile in the Netherlands or - later - Switzerland, nor did the Dutch seek to support a resistance movement in annexed Transvaal. There is more irony in Wilhelmina defending the abdicated Kaiser and then being forced to flee his successors.--91.157.209.63 (talk) 19:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

There is a chronological inaccuracy in the following sentence:

 * The marriage initially drew controversy because the NIOD discovered that Bernhard had been a member of the so-called Reiter-SS, but he proved to be a loyal Dutch citizen by cutting off relations with relatives who were enthusiastic Nazis.::

The marriage was in 1937. NIOD was established in 1945.--Meepwn53 (talk) 18:42, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Problem with location in article
In the section on World War II, the sentence "She went aboard a British cruiser at The Hague, which was to take her there." appears. Problem is, The Hague is not a port. Scheveningen is a port, and is close to The Hague. Is that the correct location? Mjroots (talk) 07:43, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

 * Mjroots -- Yes, you've identified an illustration of a commonly occurring mis-statement, e.g., see here in which the writer explains that "Queen Wilhelmina and the Dutch government departed The Hague aboard two British destroyers ...." Sometimes English usage is conventionally imprecise -- as it in this instance; and sometimes English can become very explicit. --Tenmei (talk) 16:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

The only real man?
The World War II section says Winston Churchill once said that Wilhelmina of the Netherlands was the only real man in London. Although I don't have the book at hand, I remember reading in "Wilhelmina: een Koninklijke koppige Mevrouw" (Wilhelmina: a Royal sturdy Madam) by Bert van Nieuwenhuizen that this quote is ungrounded and not true.

Furthermore it could be noted that both Bert van Nieuwenhuizen in his previously mentioned book and dr. L. de Jong in "Het Koninkrijk der Nederlanden in de Tweede Wereldoorlog" (The Kingdom of the Netherlands in de Second World War) said that the foreign state officials didn't want to negotiate with Queen Wilhelmina as she wished. Instead they wanted to communicate with the Dutch government. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qense (talk • contribs) 14:57, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Status at birth
The article said that at birth she was second in line to the throne. Since her Great Uncle Prince Frederick was still alive at this time and the Netherlands rules of succession were semi-salic up to 1887, she was of course third in line at that point. I made the appropriate changes in the article. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 17:09, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This is not true. According to article 15 of the constitution of 1848, the throne would go to a daughter of the king if there were no more sons. William III would have been succeeded bij his sister Sophie. Mvdleeuw (talk) 09:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand what you are meaning. How could the Constitutional change of 1887 have influenced the status of Wilhelmina at her birth in 1880? Or the status of Prince Frederick untill he died a year later in 1881. That is what I'm talking about. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 13:36, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

You,ve changed it now to 1848. The succession remained semi salic at that time. Meaning that if the whole male line of the House of Orange Nassau became extinct a woman could succeed, Since several royal Princes were alive at that point there was no need for the invokement of that provision. In 1887 The semi salic system was replaced by a cognatic agnatic system or what we call the Castillian system. Only then it was provided for that a daughter of a King could succeed when there were no elder brothers and the agnates that were brothers or uncles of the King would come after her. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 13:50, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Of course since 1813 women could succeed. That was also repeated in article 15 of the 1848 constitution. But only after the whole male line from King William I had died out! That is what is meant by semi salic. Untill his death in 1881 Prince Frederick therefore came before any King's daughter. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 14:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I mistakenly put 1887 where I meant 1848. I will investigate this a bit more, as article 15 seems to be open for more interpretations. Mvdleeuw (talk) 14:08, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I've looked it over and stand corrected. Thanks for your clarification! Mvdleeuw (talk) 17:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Marriage and succession
The birth of Juliana, on 30 April 1909, was met with great relief after eight years of childless marriage.[5]

Not well-known are the events leading to the birth of this, her only child. In 1908 the Queen went for a brief vacation to Marienbad, Austria. Since it was not an official state visit, she had only a small entourage with her and no welcoming ceremony greeted her arrival at the train station. However, there was a huge crowd of Jews at the station. They had come to greet a prominent Jewish personality, the Munkaczer Rebbe, Rabbi Tzvi Hirsch Spira (1845-1914). Upon inquiring as to what a Rebbe is, she was told that he is a very pious man of great wisdom who bestows blessings and gives advice. Often his prayers are answered and those who are blessed have their wishes fulfilled. She asked one of her attendants to arrange a private meeting with the great sage. They met in a park that evening. The Queen was accompanied by two attendants and the Rebbe with two young men. She spoke candidly about her torment and anxiety about not having a child to carry on the monarchy. The Rebbe assured her that her monarchy would continue and using the terminology that the angel used when predicting to Abraham's wife Sarah that she would have a child, told her that she would have a child within a year. The Rebbe also predicted that her monarchy will never be severed until the Jewish Messiah arrives. An interesting sequel to the story is that one of the young men who served as the interpreter (The Rebbe and the Queen did not share a common language) obtained consent from the Queen to immigrate to Holland after surviving the horrors of Bergen-Belsen during WWII. He never forgot the graciousness of the royal family and in his foreword to his first book published after the war, "Leket HaKemach HaChadash Vol. 3" he writes, "G-d guided my footsteps to Amsterdam through the personal intervention of the magnanimous Queen Wilhelmina, may G-d exalt her glory, before she abdicated in favour of her daughter Queen Juliana. May her monarchy continue until the Jewish Messiah comes." The entire story with its sources can be found in "Echoes of the Maggid",`p. 95-99, by Rabbi Paysach J. Krohn, published by Mesorah Publications, LTD, Brooklyn, NY, USA, March 1999. Barryfadams (talk) 10:58, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Birth of Juliana
What was wrong with my addition about the events leading up to the birth of Juliana. If you check them out with the Royal House you will find them to be true. Barryfadams (talk) 15:06, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I have checked this out at the site of the Royal House (http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl) and there is nothing to be found about this matter. Mvdleeuw (talk) 21:40, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Flight to England in May 1940
Sources quoted here are all contemporary and rather colored. It has been established some time ago (Nanda van der Zee, 1997 Om erger te voorkomen; ISBN 90 290 7338 1; this specific allegation was confirmed by Hans Blom, director of the Netherlands Institution of War Documentation) that the escape to the UK by the royals had been planned some time in advance, and that there was never any intention of going to Zeeland. --Ilja.nieuwland (talk) 11:52, 3 March 2013 (UTC) I have taken the liberty of altering references from 'Nazis' to Germans or Germany in this section as there are references to the British and the Dutch so this seems more in keeping. Reference to invasion by 'Nazi Germany' in 1940 seemed superfluos so I've taken the liberty of cutting it down to 'Germany'. Was there any other Germany in 1940? I question whether references to flight to 'England' is correct and if the United Kingdom should be used in general terms. Reference to a house in England seems appropriate, however. Robata (talk) 20:16, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Later years
The article states that in 1948, "The Dutch Royal Family was also one of seven European royal houses remaining in existence". At that time, the following European countries had reigning hereditery monarchs: the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Greece, Denmark, Norway, and Sweden (=8); in addition, Luxembourg, Monaco and Liechtenstein were ruled by a prince or grand duke, for a total of eleven. Of these, only Greece has since given up monarchy.--Death Bredon (talk) 13:03, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Er, Spain certainly didn't have a reigning monarch 1948, I certainly remember Juan Carlos' coming to the throne in 1975! -- Arwel Parry (talk) 21:27, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, give you that, but the Spanish Royal house was nevertheless in existence, though mainly in Italy -- Juan Carlos himself, however, was in Spain since 1948. The wording is not perhaps the best, since many other royal houses - primarily from the Balkan area - were still "in existence" (and most still are) although in exile. Then there still remains the question of whether the hereditary ruling families of Luxembourg, Monaco, and Liechtenstein are "royal houses".--Death Bredon (talk) 20:47, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

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Austro-Hungarian Honour
I don't think she ever was awarded with the Knight Grand Cordon of the Military Order of Maria Theresa. because it is a military order which wasn't awarded to woman. Also the named sources don't show or name it, and i couldn't find any other sources about her "membership". User:PM (talk) 09:58, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

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Mistake
I believe there is a mistake in the passage following Juliana's birth. Surely, it was not her who had two more miscarriages but her mother Wilhelmina? Anncatx (talk) 19:04, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

 * I think in that century, in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, miscarriages were quite common. If Queen Wehilimina had a son, Juliana would definitely be second in line to the throne. Preferably over women he would probably be William IIII 2402:800:63A7:F84A:FC36:4FF1:F613:F309 (talk) 15:38, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Why didn't the Netherlands choose a male successor instead of Princess Wehilimina
I wonder if the Dutch Salic law still existed at that time and why they didn't choose a distant Protestant relative to replace a woman like young wehilimina? 2402:800:63A7:F84A:FC36:4FF1:F613:F309 (talk) 15:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

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1960s
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1970s
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The late 1970s saw the height of the punk rock movement. Irish bands such as Northern Ireland's Stiff Little Fingers and The Undertones as well as Dublin's The Radiators from Space, The Boomtown Rats, Berlin, The Blades, The Vipers and the avant-garde The Virgin Prunes were in the midst of the new genre.

1980s
The 1980s saw the rise to stardom of the most successful Irish rock band, U2. Since the release of their album Boy in 1980, U2 has grown to become one of the biggest rock bands in the world. In fact, Rolling Stone claims this band to be "the biggest band in the world." Band members Bono (Paul Hewson), The Edge (David Evans), Adam Clayton, and Larry Mullen Jr have brought international attention to this unique genre. Within four years of starting the band, they were signed onto Island Records. Their 1987 album, Joshua Tree sent them over the top. Now, in the third decade of their career, they continue to achieve enormous commercial and critical success. Throughout their career U2 have kept their base firmly planted in their home town, Dublin. The band, especially frontman Bono, are also well known for their social conscience and their involvement in various international causes. Along with the 1980s came County Donegal group Clannad who were, at the time, innovators in bridging the gap between pop rock music and traditional Irish music. Following the disbandment of The Undertones in 1983, lead vocalist Feargal Sharkey pursued a solo career while the other band members formed That Petrol Emotion along with an American vocalist, Steve Mack.

In 1986 The Saw Doctors from Tuam in County Galway formed however the band would have to wait until the nineties and noughties for major success. Orchestral pop band The Divine Comedy from Enniskillen also formed in the eighties.

In the 1980s The Pogues became very successful with their radical new take on the fusion of traditional Irish music with punk rock attitude. This style of 'punked-up traditional Irish music' has also taken off outside Ireland and the UK, especially in the United States. Other Irish artists to gain fame in the 1980s were Sinéad O'Connor and the heavy metal group Mama's Boys. Former Thin Lizzy guitarist Gary Moore achieved success in his 1980s solo career but returned to his blues rock roots in the 1990s. The 1980s witnessed a lot of interest from foreign shores Cactus World News were one of the bands which managed to garner success outside Ireland (United States, UK Germany) without become hugely successful they charted continually internationally.

The 1980s also saw the birth of rock band Aslan from Finglas and Ballymun in North Dublin, the third biggest selling Irish act in Ireland.

In 1981 the Slane Concert at Slane Castle in County Meath began which is still held most years.

1990s
In the late 1980s and early 1990s, Dublin based group My Bloody Valentine pioneered a new style of rock, Shoegazing, and received much critical acclaim. A new crop of Irish rockers claimed success in the 1990s including The Cranberries from Limerick, The Golden Horde, Indie rock bands Blink, The Frames and the critically acclaimed but commercially unsuccessful Whipping Boy and The Revenants – all from Dublin, Alternative metal band from County Antrim 'Therapy?', folk rock group The Corrs of Dundalk and Alternative rock band Ash from Downpatrick, County Down.

From 1990 to 1997 the Féile Festival was an annual rock music festival held in Semple Stadium in Thurles, Páirc Uí Chaoimh in Cork, and the Point Theatre in Dublin.

At the very end of the decade The Undertones, a popular band in the 1970s and 1980s, reformed without vocalist Feargal Sharkey.

2000s
The 2000s have continued the theme in Ireland, revealing such great musical artists as singer/songwriter Damien Rice who has achieved international critical acclaim. Groups such as Snow Patrol, Nine Lies, The Thrills and The Script have also had significant international success. This decade has also produced a number of acclaimed solo singer/songwriters such as Paddy Casey, Duke Special, Damien Dempsey, Bressie, Declan O'Rourke, Chris Singleton, Cathy Davey, Gemma Hayes, David Kitt, Mundy, Jinx Lennon and Simple Kid.

Other bands from Ireland that formed in the 2000s include Nine Lies, The Coronas, The Blizzards, Royseven, Two Door Cinema Club, Hamsandwich, The Answer, Codes, The Chakras, Fred, Hybrasil, Heathers and Adebisi Shank.

There are many rock concerts and festivals annually in Ireland which began in the 2000s, and continue to run today. Most notably Oxegen, Electric Picnic, Indiependence and Belsonic.

2010s
In the late 2000s and 2010s many unsigned bands emerged from both north and south of the border, such as, Hozier, Fontaines D.C., Axis Of, Time Is a Thief, Jody Has A Hitlist, Girl Band, LaFaro, Fighting with Wire, RUN iN RED, Podracer, Dead Label!, Chewing on Tinfoil, Kasper Rosa, Black Svan, Words That Burn & Two Glass Eyes, and the best of the bunch, Strangers With Guns.

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Taxicab Confessions

Taxicab Confessions is a television series of hidden camera documentaries that aired on HBO from 1995 through 2006.

When passengers enter the cab, they are recorded with several small cameras hidden in the taxi. The producer prompts passengers into discussing their past and/or present circumstances. This has led some participants to reflect on their life, recalling extreme tragedies or triumphs. Much is verbally or visually graphic, including explicit sex talk and sex acts performed in the back seat. At the end of the taxi ride, passengers are asked to sign waivers allowing the hidden camera footage to be used on the program, and footage of this revelation is sometimes seen during the closing credits.

Separating the segments are short video montages showing life in the city, incorporating quick cuts of club interiors, flashing neon signage, strippers and the homeless, along with the series theme music, "Over the Rainbow" by Me First and the Gimme Gimmes.

The series originated in New York, moved to Las Vegas, and then returned to New York.

Awards and nominations
The first episode won the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Informational Series or Special in 1995. The show was also nominated for the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Non-Fiction Program (Reality) in 2001 and 2002.

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Third Coast International Audio Festival

The Third Coast International Audio Festival (TCIAF or TCF), based in Chicago, curates audio stories from around the world and showcases them in various mediums. It is informally referred to as the "Sundance of Radio".

The festival was affiliated with Chicago Public Radio station WBEZ and features a weekly radio show and podcast, a national broadcast, occasional competitions and challenges, and public listening events. Speakers at TCIAF's annual conference have included Jay Allison, Jad Abumrad, Joe Frank, Ira Glass, Robert Krulwich, the Kitchen Sisters, and Nancy Updike.

The term Third Coast refers to the idea that while the U.S. population tends to be concentrated near the east and west coasts, Chicago, lying on the shores of Lake Michigan, is the country's third largest city.

The festival is associated with the Re:sound audio programs.


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Henoch Leibowitz

Alter Chanoch Henoch Hakohen Leibowitz (June 2, 1918 – April 15, 2008) was an Orthodox rabbi who was Rosh Yeshiva (dean) of Yeshivas Rabbeinu Yisrael Meir HaKohen, which was founded by his father Rabbi Chaim Dovid Hakohen Leibowitz in 1933.

Biography
Leibowitz was born in 1918 in Šalčininkai, Lithuania, and was the only son of Rabbi Dovid Leibowitz. He came to America in 1926 when his father was hired by Mesivta Torah Vodaath as a teacher. In 1933, his father left Torah Vodaath and founded Yeshivas Rabbeinu Yisrael Meir HaKohen. His father's death in 1941 left him in charge of the yeshiva in his early 20s. He built a network of Jewish educational institutions in the United States, Canada and Israel.

David Paterson reportedly called Leibowitz “the most honest person in the state of New York”.

Notable students
His students include the following rabbis:
 * Dovid Harris, rosh yeshiva (dean) of Yeshiva Chafetz Chaim
 * Akiva Grunblatt, rosh yeshiva of Yeshiva Chafetz Chaim
 * Elyakim Rosenblatt, rebbi in Yeshiva Chafetz Chaim and later rosh yeshiva of Yeshiva Kesser Torah
 * Menachem Davidowitz, rosh yeshiva of Talmudic Institute of Upstate New York
 * Baruch Chait, rosh yeshiva of the Israeli high school Maarava Machon Rubin
 * Mordechai Goldstein zt"l, founder and rosh yeshiva of the Diaspora Yeshiva on Mount Zion, Jerusalem, and Chief Rabbi of Mount Zion and King David's Tomb.

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Haliburton Broadcasting Group

The Haliburton Broadcasting Group was a Canadian group of FM radio stations, located primarily in smaller markets in Ontario. The company was purchased by Vista Broadcast Group in 2012.

History
The company was named for the Haliburton region in Central Ontario, where majority owner and president Christopher Grossman, a longtime radio sales manager, trainer and executive, was also a hotelier before purchasing his first radio station, CFBG in Bracebridge, in 1997.

HBG expanded greatly into Northern Ontario in 1999 by acquiring several stations from the Pelmorex Radio Network. In 2004, they also acquired CKNR in Elliot Lake, a station which had also once been part of Pelmorex but was sold to North Channel Broadcasting in 1996.

At its peak the company owned 24 English stations, mostly branded Moose FM. Some other stations such as CFBK-FM Huntsville use other brandings. They were generally formatted with adult contemporary or hot adult contemporary music; "Moose FM" Timmins was a country station before moving to adult hits. The company also formerly operated two French stations, branded as CHYC (pronounced like the French word chic), over a number of transmitters, but these were sold to Le5 Communications in 2008.

Haliburton's head office was in Toronto, Ontario, although most of its operations were based in Haliburton. Toronto-based Slaight Communications owned a significant minority interest in the group, which was not included in that company's 2007 sale of most of its broadcasting assets to Astral Media.

In 2006 and 2007, the company also expanded into Southwestern Ontario for the first time, launching a new station in Kincardine as a partial owner, and acquiring an existing station in Haldimand.

On May 20, 2010, Haliburton applied to the CRTC to acquire CJJM-FM in Espanola, which was owned by Joco Communications and received approval on August 12, 2010. Formerly branded as Joco Radio, the station was rebranded as Moose FM in September 2010. The company also announced subsequent deals to acquire CJJM's former sister station CFSF-FM in Sturgeon Falls, as well as CJCS and CHGK-FM in Stratford; these transactions were approved by the CRTC on February 21, 2011.

In late 2010, the company applied to buy two Niagara Falls radio stations, CKEY-FM and CFLZ-FM. Haliburton received approval on June 8, 2011.

On April 23, 2012 Vista Broadcast Group, which owns 38 radio stations in western Canada, announced a deal to acquire Haliburton Broadcasting, in cooperation with Westerkirk Capital, for $32.34 million. The transaction was approved by the CRTC on October 19, 2012.

In 2021, Grossman began a new company, Local Radio Lab, acquiring several Ontario stations owned by My Broadcasting Corporation.

Strategy and competition
Haliburton's strategy has been based on the conversion of former AM radio stations to FM, adoption of generally more contemporary-oriented music formats, modest staffing levels, and economies of scale through shared voice tracking, production and advertising sales across the regional group.

CHNO in Sudbury was an AM oldies station when Haliburton acquired it from Pelmorex; a stipulation in the CRTC's approval of the transaction allowed it to move to FM. In 2000, it relaunched at 103.9 as a CHR/Top 40 station branded as Z103. After a short time, it was sold in 2001 to the larger Newcap Broadcasting for significantly more than it had been acquired for. The CRTC, wary of potential "license trafficking," accepted the sale on the grounds that Haliburton had been losing money with CHNO, and would reinvest the proceeds into its contemporaneous purchase of CKLP in Parry Sound.

CHMT in Timmins launched in 2001 as an adult contemporary station as Mix 93, but soon faltered under competition from CKGB, formerly an AM country station which adopted the "EZ Rock" adult contemporary brand and moved to FM shortly after CHMT launched. CHMT flipped to country about a year later, and eventually relented as had CHNO, abandoning its own sales staff and sharing sales with the two Rogers Media stations in Timmins.

On March 17, 2005, the CRTC published notice of an application Haliburton filed in 2004 to launch an FM country station in North Bay, which was approved on August 11, 2005. However, the North Bay station launched as an adult hits format in the summer of 2006, instead of the country music format the station originally proposed.

On April 7, 2005, they published notice of an application also filed in 2004 to launch an FM "adult contemporary rock" station in Haliburton itself. This license was also subsequently granted, and the station launched in 2006.

On August 4, 2010, Haliburton applied to operate a new FM radio station in Barry's Bay to operate at 106.5 MHz with an adult contemporary format. Haliburton received CRTC approval on January 12, 2011.

On December 13, 2010, Haliburton applied to operate a new FM radio station in Kemptville. The new station will operate on 97.5 MHz with an adult contemporary format. Haliburton received CRTC approval on April 21, 2011.

On May 19, 2011, Haliburton applied to operate a new FM radio station in Prescott. The new station would operate at 107.9 MHz with a hot adult contemporary format. Haliburton received CRTC approval on November 10, 2011.

On November 9, 2011, Haliburton submitted applications to the CRTC to acquire CJFB-FM in Bolton and CFGM-FM in Caledon. This was approved on March 14, 2012.

Sale of holdings
In May 2008, Haliburton announced a deal to sell the CHYC stations to Le5 Communications, a firm owned by Sudbury lawyer Paul Lefebvre, for a purchase price of $425,000. The deal was approved by the CRTC on October 31, 2008.

On July 28, 2008, HBG announced that it had sold 12 stations to Newcap Broadcasting, subject to CRTC approval, for a price of $18.95 million. The Kincardine and Haldimand stations were not part of the deal, and their status was not disclosed at the time of the Newcap announcement. Newcap's formal application to acquire the stations was published for public hearings by the CRTC on November 13, 2008, but was subsequently withdrawn in January 2009. Newcap CEO Rob Steele indicated that in light of the credit market crisis, the company did not feel that it was the right time to increase its debt load.

In February 2009, Haliburton was part of a tentative deal to sell CIYN in Kincardine to My Broadcasting Corporation.

On October 19, 2012, the CRTC approved Vista Broadcast Group's application for authority to acquire Haliburton's AM and FM radio stations located in Ontario.

Stations
At the time of Haliburton's acquisition by Vista in 2012, the company owned the following stations:
 * Bancroft - CHMS-FM
 * Barry's Bay - CHBY-FM
 * Bolton - CJFB-FM
 * Bracebridge - CFBG-FM
 * Caledon - CFGM-FM
 * Cochrane - CHPB-FM
 * Elliot Lake - CKNR-FM
 * Espanola - CJJM-FM
 * Fort Erie - CFLZ-FM
 * Haldimand - CKJN-FM
 * Haliburton - CFZN-FM
 * Huntsville - CFBK-FM
 * Iroquois Falls - CFIF-FM
 * Kapuskasing - CKAP-FM
 * Kemptville - CKVV-FM
 * Niagara Falls - CJED-FM
 * North Bay - CFXN-FM
 * Parry Sound - CKLP-FM
 * Prescott - CKPP-FM
 * Stratford - CJCS-FM, CHGK-FM
 * Sturgeon Falls - CFSF-FM
 * Timmins - CHMT-FM

Former stations
The following stations were owned by Haliburton in the past, but were sold to other owners prior to the company's final acquisition:
 * Kincardine - CIYN-FM (sold to My Broadcasting Corporation in 2009)
 * Sudbury - CHNO-FM (sold to Newcap Broadcasting in 2001), CHYC-FM (sold to Le5 Communications in 2008)
 * Timmins - CHYK-FM (sold to Le5 Communications in 2008)

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Eboue

Eboue, Eboué, or Éboué may refer to:

 * Eboué, Ivory Coast, village in Comoé District, Ivory Coast
 * Emmanuel Eboué (born 1983), Ivorian footballer
 * Félix Éboué (1884–1944), French administrator

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David Rees

David or Dai Rees may refer to:

Entertainment

 * David Rees (author) (1936–1993), British children's author
 * Dave Rees (born 1969), American drummer for SNFU and Wheat Chiefs
 * David Rees (cartoonist) (born 1972), American cartoonist and television host

Sports

 * Dai Rees (rugby, born c. 1885), Welsh rugby league footballer who played in the 1900s
 * Dai Rees (rugby, 1920s), Welsh rugby union and rugby league footballer who played in the 1920s and 1930s, and coached rugby league in the 1930s to the 1960s
 * Dai Rees (1913–1983), Welsh golfer
 * David Rees (British cross-country skier) (born 1940), British cross-country skier
 * David Rees (Canadian cross-country skier) (born 1943), Canadian cross-country skier
 * Dai Rees (rugby union, born 1964), Welsh rugby union footballer who played in the 2000s, and coached in the 2000s and 2010s
 * David Rees (rugby union, born 1974), English rugby union footballer who played in the 1990s and 2000s

Other

 * David Rees (Y Cynhyrfwr) (1801–1869), Welsh Nonconformist minister and editor
 * David Rees (mathematician) (1918–2013), British mathematician
 * Sir Dai Rees (biochemist) (1936–2021), British biochemist and science administrator
 * D. Ben Rees (David Benjamin Rees, born 1937), Welsh-language publisher and leader of the Welsh community in Liverpool
 * David Rees (politician) (born 1957), member of the National Assembly for Wales
 * David Rees (organic chemist) (born 1958), British organic chemist and chief scientific officer at Astex

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Talk:Creatures of Light and Darkness

Background
I've seen it mentioned before that Creatures of Light and Darkness is a roman &agrave clef, but I've never heard any specific details. Does anyone here know more about how the novel corresponds to the Social Security Administration? Factitious 08:42, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)

 * I agree. I've put in a request for a source.  If nothing appears within a few weeks I'll remove it, move it to 'discussion'. --GwydionM 19:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I just deleted the claim. The only source I could find for it was a Usenet post from three years ago, and it's pure speculation. -- Avram 04:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Set's gear
The article states that Thoth scattered Set's gear across the Midworlds. The book (at least, the new edition) says that it was Anubis who did that (pg 150, if you want the reference). This doesn't include the wand, which Thoth had to commission a duplicate of, but seems to include the other two. Any confirmation on this? Is it just a difference between editions, or a typo/mistake in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.56.123.211 (talk) 20:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Good and evil
The article states that the good characters are truly good. Where does Madrak fit in? At the beginning, he appears good, but it turns out that he is in reality as self-serving as, for example, Anubis. Varn ix 13:51, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Again, I agree. None of them are entirely good - the better side are often cruel and sometimes selfish.  --GwydionM 20:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Typhon and black holes
I removed the comment "Typhon bears a grudge against Anubis." As I recall, Typhon is coldly suspicious, and is actually quite right. He also refuses to act without proof. --GwydionM 19:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Reprint
A new edition was promised for the start of 2007. Amazon no longer show it. Does anyone know more? --GwydionM 12:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I removed the broken Amazon link.--GwydionM 12:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Amazon Shows it being released March 31 2010. Kev0153 (talk) 20:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Does anybody know if this newly released version is has been typographically corrected? Revision as of 15:29, 18 September 2009 has a very nice introduction to the history of the manuscript which would be valuable to all interested in the book I think, even now that it has been released. (anonymous, 8 June 2010) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.178.97.249 (talk)

Nephthys
While this is her name in Egyptian mythology (or rather the Greek approximation), her name in the book is Nephytha. You can find the reference on pg. 100 of the Eos trade paperback republication. I edited her name in the "Places" section to reflect this while keeping the link to her "real world" counterpart. --Ever-Reve (talk) 19:55, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Gutenberg mirror
Do we care that Project Gutenberg has a copy of this article, but sourced to the World Heritage Encyclopedia?

http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/eng/Creatures_of_Light_and_Darkness

Wikipedia content is released as both GFDL and CD-by-SA, but the Gutenberg echo of this page links only to World Heritage Organization, as if it were the source. This page's history indicates that it is not. IAmNitpicking (talk) 19:11, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Absolutely hate that series of mirrors; they actually have about 50 domains pointing back to the World Heritage source. They do provide a link to the wikipedia page, the list of authors and the CC license at the bottom of the page ("citational source"), but never by name. Shady. Kuru   (talk)  17:32, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:Wāpuro rōmaji

Wāpuro rōmaji
JIS X 4063 is viewable from http://www.jisc.go.jp/app/pager?%23jps.JPSH0020D:JPSO0010:/JPS/JPSO0020.jsp= (enter "X4063" in the topmost text box and click nearest button)

Criticism
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:W%C4%81puro_r%C5%8Dmaji&action=edit&section=1 ''On the other hand, the kana spelling おう is pronounced in two different ways: as 'ō' in the meaning 'king' (王), and as 'ou' in the meaning 'to chase' (追う). Being based on hiragana, wāpuro style writes both these words as 'ou', ignoring the difference in pronunciation. This criticism is equally valid for many other romanization schemes.''

Err, no, it's not — Hepburn and Kunrei would both spell those two cases differently. Now Hepburn and Kunrei would both render おお and おう as "ō", while wapuro wouldn't, but that's a different issue... Jpatokal 15:03, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

ok, wapuro represents おう as "ou". hepburn and Kunrei both represent taht same kana string as "ō". I fail to see how any of these three represent that difference in pronunciation between 王 and 追う. In all three cases, the difference in pronunciation is not represented at all, so the criticism is equally valid, no? Either that, or the paragraph needs a serious amount of rewriting for clarity. Rhialto 15:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Table time!

 * Wapuro distinguishes between 2 and 3, but not 1 and 2. Hepburn/Kunrei distinguish between 1 and 2, but not 2 and 3. Jpatokal 01:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

ok, I see your point now. Nonetheless, the article needs a re-write. The way the paragraph is written, it includes a criticism of waapuro without noting that Hepburn/Kunrei has a weakness that involves the same specific set of romanization decisions (wp:npov). Also, I have no idea what Tokoites or Osaknas are :) Rhialto 07:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

What's this "Wapuro distinguishes between 2 and 3, but not 1 and 2. Hepburn/Kunrei distinguish between 1 and 2, but not 2 and 3." nonsense? I'll give a better table (a copy paste, but adding the Kunrei/Hepburn spellings, without which the table above is incomplete): So where is this supposed difference between 1 and 2, in Kunrei/Hepburn? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.113.53.13 (talk) 03:32, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Your table is incorrect: 追う is not a long vowel, so it's romanized "ou" in Hepburn, not "ō". Jpatokal (talk) 09:46, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Ah. It isn't a long vowel... A subtle, but significant, distinction that hadn't occurred to me. Do you have any evidence to back up the claim that it would be romanized "ou"? (Not that you haven't already convinced me. I'd just like confirmation)--213.113.53.13 (talk) 02:52, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

 * From the proverbial horse's mouth: The horizontal mark over ō and ū indicates merely that the sound of o and u is prolonged. (1886)  As the sound in 追う isn't prolonged, it's not correct to use ō for it. Jpatokal (talk) 09:29, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Reasons for preferring wāpuro rōmaji
Could someone explain what this sentence in the article is supposed to mean?

 * Some people prefer it because, as it closely reflects Japanese kana orthography, the Japanese are less likely to be confused by it than by the "oo" for long u, that they invariably pronounce as English oo.

In which romanization is "oo" used for long u (that is, ウー)? And what is English oo? In "too", "moo", "woo", etc. it's ウー, in "ooh" it's オー, and in "oops" it's ウー again. Is this perhaps intended as a practical demonstration of the kind of confusion that is supposed to result in the reader? It succeeded.

I'm a non-Japanese who uses mainly "wa-puro ro-maji" on the computer (except perhaps for "-", preferring e.g. "roomaji" instead; but I do use e.g. nn for ん, though not always), and didn't quite find myself in the article's analysis of the reasons for this choice. The part about being less familiar with the formal systems sort of fits, but not quite. I use waapuro style because I almost never use roomaji and therefore it takes more effort to recall how any of the more formal systems work, whereas waapuro style is like second nature. It is also distinctive and easy to use, reducing the probability of errors (by any human or system involved) as well as the usual ambiguity in romanized Japanese caused by lack of knowledge of the exact romanization conventions used by the writer. The fact that many Japanese use it too affects the decision in only a minor way, namely by removing any feeling that I "need" to use roomaji "properly" either.

There are also too many romanization systems, many of which have only slight differences, and if you try to use any system consistently, you get on the black list of The United Whiners of the World, who only agree to disagree. Besides, who cares most of the time what roomaji looks like as long as the message gets across? Roomaji in the real world is such a tangled mess anyway, and nobody writes works of art in it, so why even try for aesthetics? Waapuro roomaji is the only one necessary for Japanese input, so you get it for free. (Sure, you can use kana input, but you need double amount of work to be able to write fast with both that and qwerty.) In the end, waapuro style is the pragmatic choice of the lazy and those who prefer to wait and see if one single widespread and standard system will ever emerge, content even if one never does.

Of course, were I to use roomaji in a work of more permanent nature than simple personal communication, I'd have to first find out which system and variant is expected. Such is the case with e.g. editing English Wikipedia, which uses the English Wikipedia variant of the Revised Hepburn system. The English Wikipedia variant has all kinds of exceptions so I mostly go with Revised Hepburn and the style already present in any article I edit, and let others fix any mistakes instead of trying to fathom the mish-mash of rules in the Manual of Style for Japan-related articles (except incrementally). It's not all about roomaji either — you are even expected to use the singular form as plural for words when there's a significant group of English speakers who are familiar with the word, which is rather bizarre and arbitrary to say the least (and difficult to determine, too). I know I'm not the only one who likes to keep Japanese Japanese and English English and much rather translates than transliterates because of the mess, but I've no idea how common a reason this is, so I left the article alone for now. -- 82.103.215.236 02:10, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

 * It's not just you, the original author was obviously also confused: he was talking about the fact that おお and おう can both be read /oː/, which is perfectly true, but irrelevant here. The actual problem is that おう can be /oː/ as in 王 or /oɯ/ (that's "ou" if you're not into IPA) as in 追う, and wapuro can't distinguish the two.

 * Anyway, I've cut out the unsources speculation and attempted to whip the last p into shape. ANy better now? Jpatokal 05:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes, what is in the article makes sense now. However, it could be misleading that the article says "Wāpuro rōmaji is now frequently employed in general-purpose computer input as well as word processing" and "The wāpuro-style representation of long vowels, with "Toukyou" for "Tokyo", is popular with many fans of anime and other aspects of Japanese culture", which might lead the uninformed reader to think that these are the only major uses of it.

 * Use in computer input (where it is immediately converted to kana and then to normal text) is certainly the most ubiquitous use, but waapuro roomaji is also used in communication between (semi-)fluent Japanese speakers who for some reason have to romanize (usually because of technical problems). In these cases the problem mentioned in the last paragraph is not a problem, so perhaps the statement should be qualified.

 * I assume that the problem meant is that compared to other romanizations, readers unfamiliar with kana usage will pronounce unfamiliar words less correctly. Does this cause mispronunciation among fans of anime and other aspects of Japanese culture? Or is the problem mentioned as an explanation of why the usage of waapuro roomaji among non-speakers of Japanese has not spread beyond those circles? I'm asking because I assumed (wrongly?) that those using such romanization would be familiar with kana usage, as otherwise it seems a rather peculiar way to romanize. Also in the case of anime you hear the proper pronunciation for any catchy words many times over. -- 82.103.215.236 20:04, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Come to think of it, many anime fans prefer to leave parts of Japanese intact in otherwise English text or speech. One example would be the san, kun, chan, sama, dono, etc. suffixes. Perhaps to them using waapuro roomaji is a way of preserving kana usage in a similar fashion? In that case it would be an active choice made of preference, and unilaterally calling it a problem would be biased. You could call using some Japanese words not generally used in English a problem in the same way, and many would disagree with that (I think it's some kind of elitist thing, and happens with French and Latin too). Also, as some anime fans seem to be on a crusade (or so I feel at times) to teach parts of Japanese to the ignorant masses (sic), from their POV force-feeding kana usage would be a good thing. This is just speculation based on some personal observations though. -- 82.103.215.236 20:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

おう-as-ō vs おう-as-ou
Re: the distinction in spelling between おう-as-ō and おう-as-ou, User:Shii makes the claim that in wāpuro style, a separator mark such as o'u is necessary for the latter. Yes, that's a solution in theory, but it's not done in practice (because in kana the two are the same) and you'll need to show me a source if you claim otherwise. And it certainly doesn't work for inputting Japanese: Vista's IME, for one, gives me "お’う". Jpatokal (talk) 01:55, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

wāpuro rōmaji in wāpuro rōmaji?
This should show how "Wāpuro rōmaji" is written in "Wāpuro rōmaji". It would be useful if every Hepburn instance were accompanied by the wapuro as well. 76.65.128.198 (talk) 09:14, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * My word processor writes "wa-puroro-maji" or "wa-puroro-mazi". ––虞海 ( Yú Hǎi )  ✍  15:52, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

 * wa-puro ro-maji is how it is written, actually. Wordprocessor romaji is an indication of the physical keys pressed when typing the words (assuming you are not using a kana-based keyboard layout). For want of a better word, "presentation romaji" refers to the romaji forms that include accents (macrons or circumflexes), as commonly seen in some books. Rhialto (talk) 08:38, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

 * According to this article this should be "waupuro roumaji" if you convert Hepburn to wapuro. The article also says there is no one-to-one correspondence between Hepburn and wapuro either. 76.65.128.198 (talk) 12:13, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

 * It's katakana, so it's wa-puro ro-maji. U's are only used for hiragana. Jpatokal (talk) 22:25, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

 * Ok, well, can we add wa-puro to all instances of Hepburn in the article, to illustrate what wapuro looks like? 76.65.128.198 (talk) 06:59, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

where are these hyphens coming from? shouldn't it be "waapuro roomaji"? either way - is just as bad as ' or whatever. it's the same thing as the ou issue; you need the context, the original characters, because roomaji is utterly useless and always misleading without them. Despatche (talk) 15:47, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

 * The hyphens come from the physical keys that are pressed. The word in question incorporates the Japanese "long vowel mark", which is normally created by pressing the "-" key on a keyboard. Rhialto (talk) 13:54, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

how to install?
How can I install wapuro in my computer (Vista) ? --Hans Eo (talk) 11:52, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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Dave Schultz (amateur wrestler)

David Lesley Schultz (June 6, 1959 – January 26, 1996) was an American Olympic and World champion freestyle wrestler, and a seven-time World and Olympic medalist. He coached individuals and teams at the college level and also privately.

Dave and his brother, wrestler Mark Schultz, both won gold at the same Olympics (1984). The Schultzes were one of three sets of brothers (the others are Buvaisar and Adam Saitiev, and Anatoli and Sergei Beloglazov) to win both World and Olympic championships. The Schultz brothers have won more NCAA, World, and Olympic titles than any other American brother combination in history.

Schultz was employed as a coach by John du Pont, a multimillionaire philanthropist who sponsored the private Foxcatcher wrestling team at an amateur sports center known as Foxcatcher Farm that he set up on his estate in Pennsylvania. In January 1996, du Pont murdered Schultz.

Early life
David Lesley Schultz was born in Palo Alto, California, to Dorothy Jean St. Germain (née Rich) and Phillip Gary Schultz. He was the brother of Mark Schultz, and two half-siblings – Michael and Seana. Schultz was of half Belarusian-Jewish and half British/Irish/French/German descent. His paternal grandparents were Estelle (Bernstein), the daughter of a prominent paper company executive, and Maxwell L. Schultz, a business consultant. His maternal grandparents were Dorothy (Starks), a radiologist who graduated from Stanford Medical School #1 in her class, and Willis Rich, a Stanford ichthyology professor, inventor of the salmon ladder and discoverer of the "home stream theory" that salmon return to the rivers where they were born in order to spawn before they die. He said in a video that he was a Christian by faith.

As a young child, Dave was overweight (nicknamed "Pudge"), and was often bullied at school by classmates for his weight and appearance. He also had dyslexia, which many of his teachers mistook for mental disabilities.

Schultz began wrestling in junior high school at David Starr Jordan Middle School in Palo Alto coached by Robert Hoskins. In 1977 as a senior at Palo Alto High School, he became state champion. That year he also won both his first national and international wrestling titles. As a high school senior he pinned 2-time NCAA champion and NCAA "Outstanding Wrestler" Chuck Yagla at the Great Plains Championships. His brother Mark started competing in sports in gymnastics, winning the Northern California All-Around Gymnastics Championships in his age group. In his junior year he switched to wrestling, and in his senior year won state.

High school career
Schultz's high school wrestling records included winning first place in the prestigious Great Plains freestyle tournament, which qualified him to compete on his first U.S. international team in the Tbilisi Tournament in then-Soviet Georgia. The Tbilisi Tournament is considered by many experts in the wrestling community to be the "toughest tournament in the world." Schultz earned a silver medal and was the highest-placing American at the tournament. Due to the timing of Tbilisi, Schultz was not able to compete in the high school tournaments that were required to qualify for the California State Championships, but his coach Ed Hart successfully petitioned the state coaches association to allow him to compete. Wrestling two weight classes above his normal division, Schultz pinned all his opponents in the state championships but the last, whom he defeated 12–1 in the final match. Later that year he won his first national title by winning the U.S. National Open Greco-Roman Championships and won the award for most falls in the least amount of time. Schultz's senior year is considered by most experts as the most successful senior year in U.S. high school wrestling history.

College
In college, Schultz was a three-time NCAA All-American, first at Oklahoma State University and then twice at the University of Oklahoma. In 1982, he was the 167-pound weight class NCAA Champion defeating Mike Sheets from Oklahoma State University in the finals by criteria tie-breaker in overtime. His career collegiate record was 91–8: 30–4 at Oklahoma State University, 61–4 at the University of Oklahoma.

World and Olympics career
Schultz won ten Senior National titles (eight in Freestyle and two in Greco-Roman) over a 19-year span, at three weight divisions: 149.9 lb, 163 lb and 180.5 lb. In international competition, Schultz won a 1983 World Championship and a 1984 Olympic gold medal, competing with the United States team. Schultz won the gold medal at the 74 kg weight class over Martin Knosp from West Germany. He won four World Cup and two Pan American Games titles, and is the only American ever to twice win the tournament in Tbilisi, Georgia. In all, he was a seven-time World and Olympic medalist. Together, Dave and his brother Mark Schultz, along with the Banach brothers, were the first American brothers to each win gold medals in the same Olympics, and likewise the only American brothers to win both World and Olympic championships.

Coaching and post professional career
At various times, Schultz also served as an assistant coach at the University of Oklahoma, Stanford University, and the University of Wisconsin–Madison. Among many other top U.S. wrestlers, Schultz trained 1996 Olympic Gold Medalist Kurt Angle, who later became a professional wrestler. In the 1990s, he worked as a coach for John du Pont's "Team Foxcatcher", which trained at a complex built on the du Pont family farm in Newtown Square, Pennsylvania. In 1996, Schultz was murdered there by John du Pont.

Murder
Schultz trained at the Foxcatcher center while preparing for another Olympic bid, as well as coaching the wrestling team. On January 26, 1996, he was shot and killed by John du Pont, the owner of the center. Du Pont had exhibited bizarre and threatening behavior for an extended period preceding the murder.

Schultz was 36 at the time of his death. His body was cremated. Schultz's surviving family included his wife Nancy, his son Alexander, his daughter Danielle, his siblings, and both parents.

At the trial, neither the prosecution nor the defense suggested a motive for the crime. A jury rejected du Pont's plea of not guilty by reason of insanity; he was convicted as guilty but mentally ill. Du Pont was sentenced by Judge Patricia Jenkins to 13–30 years incarceration and died in prison on December 9, 2010. Schultz's father Philip told The New York Times that "the fact that he's officially gone is almost a moot point. I did forgive the man for what he did. I never forgave the act."

The story of the events leading to his death are portrayed in the 2014 film Foxcatcher, with Schultz portrayed by Mark Ruffalo.

Legacy
After Schultz's murder, 20 former Foxcatcher athletes were left without training or coaching resources six months before the 1996 Olympic Games. Schultz's widow founded the Dave Schultz Wrestling Club in March 1996 to sponsor the stranded wrestlers through the Olympics. The Club succeeded beyond the initial goal. It continued to train athletes in both men's and women's freestyle and Greco-Roman wrestling until it closed in 2005. Among the wrestlers who competed under Dave Schultz WC sponsorship were Olympic gold medalists Kurt Angle (100 kg/220 lbs Men's Freestyle, 1996) and Brandon Slay (76 kg/167.5 lbs Men's Freestyle, 2000), Olympic bronze medalist Patricia Miranda (48 kg/105.5 lbs Women's Freestyle, 2004), and World Champion Stephen Neal (130 kg/286 lbs. Men's Freestyle, 1999).

 * Since Schultz's death, USA Wrestling has hosted the annual Dave Schultz Memorial International wrestling meet at the United States Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
 * In 1997, Schultz was posthumously inducted into the National Wrestling Hall of Fame as a Distinguished Member.
 * The singlet Kurt Angle wore in his early World Wrestling Federation career was a tribute to Schultz.
 * In 1996, the National Wrestling Hall of Fame established the Dave Schultz High School Excellence Award, which celebrates an outstanding high school male wrestler from each state, while also signifying regional and a national winner. The award is equally based on wrestling success, scholastic achievement, and community service.
 * In 2016, United World Wrestling posthumously inducted Schultz into its Hall of Fame.

Representation in other media

 * The 2014 film Foxcatcher, directed by Bennett Miller, with Mark Ruffalo playing Schultz, Steve Carell as du Pont and Channing Tatum as Mark, is based on Mark Schultz's relationship with du Pont. For his portrayal of Dave, Ruffalo was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor.
 * Dave's brother Mark Schultz wrote a non-fiction book, Foxcatcher: The True Story of My Brother's Murder, John du Pont's Madness, and the Quest for Olympic Gold (2014).
 * The story of John du Pont, David Schultz, and Team Foxcatcher is documented in The Prince of Pennsylvania, a documentary film directed by Jesse Vile for ESPN's 30 for 30 series.

Athletic achievements

 * 1982 NCAA Division I Champion, 167 lb class
 * 1983 Senior Freestyle world champion, 163 lb
 * 1984 Olympic gold medalist, 163.1 lb
 * 1986 Goodwill Games gold medalist
 * 1994 Goodwill Games silver medalist
 * Seven-time USA Senior Freestyle champion (1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1993, 1994, 1995; all except 1988 (180.5 lb) at 163 lb)
 * Five-time World Cup champion (1980, 1982, 1985, 1994, 1995)
 * Two-time Pan American Games champion (1977 (Greco-Roman), 1987(Freestyle))
 * Three-time AAU National Champion (1977 GR, 1981 FS, 1982 GR)
 * Three-time NCAA Division I all-American (1978, 1981, 1982)
 * Two-Time Tbilisi Champion (1984, 1991)
 * Two-time Olympic Festival Champion (1985, 1987)
 * Two-time Sunkist International Champion (1989, 1990)
 * Three-time DeGlane Challenge Champion (1983, 1990, 1991)
 * Three-time World silver medalist, 163 lb (1985, 1987, 1993)
 * Two-time World Bronze medalist (1982, 1986)

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Rock music in Iceland

Rock and roll is a style of popular American music which has spread around the world, including to the North Atlantic island nation of Iceland.

History
Rock came to the island beginning in the mid-1950s. Rock's popularity increased steadily over the next few years. This wave peaked with the tour by Tony Crombie & His Rockets in May 1957. A few bands with their own style did emerge, however, including City, Disco and Lúdó.

From 1930 until the mid-1980s, radio broadcasting in Iceland was a state monopoly which did not allow much time for rock music. But despite this state of affairs, Icelandic popular culture was not completely isolated from the outside world. Crews of Icelandic fishing boats and commercial aircraft would buy rock records in America, England and Germany and bring them back home to Iceland. Also, the US Navy base in Keflavík, Iceland, operated a radio station for the troops (AFRS 1484 on the radio dial) that mainly played rock music and was very popular with young Icelanders in the Reykjavík area and remained important to Icelandic rock music until at least the mid-1970s. Some of the disc-jockeys from the early '70s were Tom Wiecks, Jim Roark,  Karl Phillips,  Ron Smart, Tom Hughes and Mark Lazar.

The British Invasion and Beatlemania arrived in Iceland in 1964, and the indigenous groups Hljómar from Keflavík and Dátar from Reykjavík arose as Icelandic counterparts to The Beatles, later followed by Flowers, Bendix and other bands. Beginning in about 1969, the English language period of Icelandic rock began, with bands like Trúbrot, Náttúra and Pelikan becoming popular.

From 1973 to 1979, the Reykjavík rock scene was dominated by progressive rock and funk groups such as Eik and Cabaret (these two groups merged under the name Eik in 1977).

The mid to late 1970s saw the rise of Gunnar Þórðarson and Magnús Eiríksson, who revitalized the field of Icelandic rock and created a more distinctive national style. A wave of punk rock based out of Reykjavík occurred in about 1981 and temporarily displaced more traditional rock music, much like rock had displaced jazz in the early 1960s. Notable mid to late 1980s Icelandic rock bands include Grafík and Tobmobile as well as the alternative rock band The Sugarcubes featuring Björk. Towards the end of the 20th century and continuing to the present (2005), the group Quarashi with its mixture of rock and rap has achieved international attention; the same applies to the hard rock group Mínus and the post-rock band Sigur Rós. From the late 1980s continuing to the present (2005) the band Sálin hans Jóns míns or just Sálin has had a strong presence on the Icelandic rock scene.

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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australia/To-do

Why wild sorghum?
Why has someone suggested creation of a page for wild sorgum when Wiki already has a page for sorghum as distinct fromthe pages on commercial sorghum and Sorghum bicolor? Is there any information on the numeorus Australian sorghum species that doesn't fit in the existing sorghum article? After all it's not like Sorghum is a uniquely Australian genus, and AFAIK none of the Australian species are endemic.Ethel Aardvark (talk) 01:35, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to remove any entries that you are sure do not belong. I would have listed them at WikiProject Australian biota if there was an opentask template on the page. There, they would get the attention of editors with more specific knowledge. - Shiftchange (talk) 01:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

geography section
I inserted a geography section at the top of the list. I hope this doesn't annoy anyone but my reasoning is that the geography of a country is the physical bedrock. You can have geography without people but you can't have people without geography. Oska 08:48, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)
 * Fair enough! Not a problem. T.PK 14:36, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Geoscience Australia
Geoscience Australia have a free place name search engine that is very comprehensive. Paul foord 06:04, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Articles without images section
I notice there is the Articles_requiring_images section on this project page and there is the Request_for_images page as well. What is the difference between the two? Can I remove section 9 from this article and we all just work on the one page? Considering the link to the request page appears at the top of the Complete to-do list it should be sufficient. Otherwise it is a little confusing and pointless to have to maintain two seperate lists. - Shiftchange 01:24, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

New Category
Is there some reason why there is not a category for Australian inventions (splayds, stump-jump plough, etc.), Australian scientific discoveries (Helicobacter pylori), Australian engineeering marvels (Snowy Mountain Scheme), and Australian innovations (seat belt legislation). To me, all of these have a common theme -- the-over neglected role of scientific pursuits. I don't know how or where to make this suggestion for a new "Australian" category; so I have placed it here. I hope that somebody can kick this off in a good way and encourage Australians to remember that that have a very strong science/engineering heritage.129.94.6.30 00:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Business in Australia
As a page already exists as Quest_Community_Newspapers, perhaps the proposed Quest Newspapers page listed for work here should simply be a re-direct to the other? (Being new here, I'm unsure as to how this might be achieved). MirDoc 04:06, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Rename
I intend to move this and all related task pages to a new naming format based on WikiProject Australia in the next day or so, unless there are any objections. This page's new title will become either WikiProject Australia/To-do or WikiProject Australia/Requests.--cj | talk 18:36, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that this and related pages now belong to the WikiProject, not specifically the noticeboard. Support rename. --Scott Davis Talk 22:29, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I have been waiting for someone to suggest this. Definately the list sections should be more aligned with current and expected projects. Having some place to initally add uncreated articles on a list for WPAustralia related items is useful, so is drawing attention to a list of articles that need expansion, although these are automatically created at Pages needing attention/Australia with a tag. Another thing to consider is the discussion about the Lost and found section. If newly created articles and stubs were added to New articles (Australia) until we get a bot do to that automatically, the lost and found section would be better placed on this renamed project page. I'm happy to move items to WikiProject Australian politics and WikiProject Australian history and then add tasks sections at WikiProject Australian sports, etc, to reduce the list. - Shiftchange 03:51, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Connection with WP:RA
There should be some sort of connection with Requested articles. Richard001 (talk) 09:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Australian plague locust - to do list
This site contains an apprently free image of an Aust PL http://www.ento.csiro.au/aicn/name_s/b_1006.htm

I was going to write an article based on the sites info as the APL is listed in "required articles to do"

If anyone knows how to upload this image without upsetting the wiki image police feel free. Phenss (talk) 12:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC) I was hoping someone can let me know the copyright process for these images.

To do - 1970 plot to assassinate Queen Elizabeth II in Australia
The media is all over this. 203.7.140.3 (talk) 00:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Andrew Inglis Clark - Help wanted
Currently, there is a stub which covers AIC. Since he is so important in the history of Federation (86 of 128 sections in the Constitution derive from his Draft), not to mention that he was the person who proposed Commonwealth of Australia (he did a lot more, he's been compared to Thomas Jefferson), is anyone else working on an artcle? I'm 2,500 words into what will probably end up being 5,000-8,000 words. I'm looking for help, especially with proofing and reference checking. Papafox (talk) 00:15, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Rewrite Seafood in Australia
The page Seafood in Australia appears to be a student essay on the topic. While it does cite sources, it appears to contain a good deal of original research via synthesis. The format (particularly use of bold face), references, and indiscriminate lists also require attention. Unfortunately, I have neither the knowledge nor the skill to rewrite the page myself. On the assumption that the subject is notable, I am requesting help from WikiProject Food and drink and WikiProject Australia to rewrite the page. Any help you can offer would be most appreciated. Cnilep (talk) 16:14, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Pages for schools
I've noticed that only a small percentage of Victorian schools have pages. I feel that these are important because I assume a good bulk of parents will use Google to research schools for their children, and factual information could be very useful. I've created pages for Knoxfield Primary School, Carrington Primary School, and will look into Scoresby Secondary College. I plan on visiting Ian Craighead, the principal of Carrington Primary School and asking his permission to access some of the files on the history of Carrington PS and Knoxfield PS (knoxfield ps merged with scoresby ps and became Carrington) ... I can't see this being an issue and all because I know him personally, as well as some of the staff. One of the teachers has been teaching there since the 70's (was my grade 1 teacher AND my supervising practicuum teacher in university when I was on placement lol!) so some of her memories would be a great asset to add.

I might also email the principal of Scoresby Secondary College and ask him if he'd like to talk to his IT teachers and have some of the older students work on the Wikipedia page as an ongoing project. I'm aware that there have been issues with articles by students in the past, but I'll be sure to address this in the email. I also feel that the article being started by people who have direct access to the schools history will make it a lot easier to get accurate information happening. He was the Vice Principal while I was there, and I'm sure he'll say yes, this type of stuff is right up his alley. As I'm fairly new to editing, if you notice anything I do wrong, please feel free to correct me, it's probably one of the best ways to learn this kind of stuff quickly :) --Berrie (talk) 07:35, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Requested articles from the requested articles page

 * - an aboriginal bark hut
 * - a suburb in the Perth Hills.
 * - (1922-2007) wartime Spitfire pilot and aviation pioneer. SMH obituary
 * - "artist, wharfie, barber, musician and communist". SMH obituary
 * - sculptor, 1949-2007. SMH obituary
 *  - song and lyrics
 * - a town in Yarriambiack Shire - in Western Victoria, near Rainbow
 * Alice Springs National Aboriginal HIV/AIDS Conference - An important conference in 1992, March
 * ANZIAM medal - awarded to Renfrey Potts
 * Concord West Public School - a school in the western suburbs of sydney
 * Melville Senior High School - a high school in Perth Western Australia
 * 2006 IPC World Athletics Championships - Played by Athletics Champions from all around the world
 * - a primary school that is located to the northwest of Melbourne
 * - a tourist attraction in Blackwater, Queensland that has mining-related exhibits.
 * - A leading street directory, whose name is used as a generic in Australia meaning any street directory.
 * - a primary school that is located to the northwest of Melbourne
 * - a tourist attraction in Blackwater, Queensland that has mining-related exhibits.
 * - A leading street directory, whose name is used as a generic in Australia meaning any street directory.

Propose removing "to expand" sections
This page is rarely used anyway, but I find the "to expand" sections particularly useless. Obviously most articles on wiki can be expanded, and the ones listed on this page seem no shorter nor worthy of expansion than any other Australian wiki page. Many of them were added to this list years and years ago anyway. At most I'd suggest we only list high/top importance stub/start class articles. --99of9 (talk) 04:09, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

"Ballarat Reform League" duplicates existing "Eureka Rebellion" wiki page
To the Project Committee.

The wiki page for the 'Ballarat Reform League is listed as a To Do item for the Australia Project, so I have been reviewing it.

I have three findings regarding the article, in addition to the issues raised by previous reviewers: i.e. that it lacks references and it lacks neutrality (seeming to be more for the purpose of promoting a local history group seeking funding):

1) The topic is already well-covered in the wiki page Eureka Rebellion, which is of a higher standard than the page in question here.

2) Intrinsically, the Ballarat Reform League is of low importance. It was short-lived, lasting only a matter of weeks.  The League's pacifist president, Humffray, was over-ridden by the more pugilistic and charismatic Lalor and the rebels followed him into the fight.

3) The legacy of the Ballarat Reform League was the Ballarat Reform Charter, or the "Diggers Charter". This demanded enfranchisement of the diggers.  It has enjoyed a certain amount of puffery, often being claimed as a seminal document for Australian democracy, although historians such as Geoffrey Blainey do not agree that it was.

Conclusion:

I recommend that this article is removed, on the grounds that it duplicates the information in an existing and more competent article Eureka Rebellion.

SurveyorMJF (talk) 09:36, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Question
Do I need to do anything to join this? I'd like to help with quite a lot of stuff here but not sure if I need to join anything. Vizra JR (talk) 11:42, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Essentially, No! You can sign up to various groups if you think that will help, but you can just edit and improve articles anywhere on WP as you want to! --Bduke (talk) 11:46, 15 September 2022 (UTC)