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Possibly someone should mention that he was one of People Magazine's 50 mos beautiful people one year? Only Congressperson to ever achieve that, although it means absolutely nothing and I hate People, as it's not really literature; it's like TV on paper, only more crappy. Still, it's something.

Pro-growth?
Certainly one can argue that the "Blue Dogs" and the "New Democrats" are pro-growth, but how can anyone attach desription that to the Congressional Black Caucus? What have they ever done to show themselves to be "pro-growth"? Rlquall 02:31, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * What exactly does "pro-growth" mean, anyway? Would you say that the black caucus is "anti-growth" or "pro-stagnation"? -  Jersyko   talk  01:34, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

Harold Ford: A Liberal?
The part about Ford's moderate voting record, in spite of charges that he is a liberal, is misworded IMO. The dominant consensus is that Ford is a moderate or 'centrist', as opposed to a doctrinaire liberal democrat. Indeed, his prominence in organizations with a reputation for moderation and centrism, such as the "New Democrat" & "Blue Dog" coalitions would give cover to this assertion. Charges of liberalism would be heterodox to the consensus; and should be framed that way.

The entry should be changed to something that states that Ford is considered a moderate in his party, and indeed he belongs to several coalitions within the supposed moderate or centrist wing of the party; although some charge that his voting record is little different from those of his more avowedly liberal colleagues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dustin Ridgeway (talk • contribs)

 * The New American's Conservative Index ranks him a little higher than the average congressman. The ranking for the most recent review gave him a 44 with a overall congressional average of 36.  --Kalmia 08:17, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

 * To quote a recent Time Magazine article: "The Congressman who is running to replace retiring Bill Frist as Senator from Tennessee has voted to outlaw gay marriage and to repeal the estate tax, and wants to amend the Constitution to ban flag burning. He supports getting rid of the handgun ban in the nation's capital and says the Ten Commandments should be posted in courtrooms around his state. He favors school prayer, argues that more troops should have been sent to Iraq and wants to seal the border with Mexico." . That doesn't sound like a liberal to me. -- Sholom 04:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * He's certainly not a liberal. But, with Tennessee now somewhat strongly red, it's rather unsurprising.  One thing is certain, however—Ford is more of a moderate than his 2006 Senate opponent. ·  j e r s y k o   talk  · 04:25, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Possibly because his opponent is a complete right-wing nutjob. Whoops! --Ademska 05:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Heh. Seems like only yesterday Corker was a lilly-livered moderate running against two staunch conservatives for the GOP nomination, eh? Danthemankhan 02:56, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Use of Blogs as Factual Reference
The Rasmussen poll regarding a percentage of people who say their family or friends would voted for Ford because of race is hearsay. It's poll of hearsay. Smacks of propaganda.

The www.fancyford.com reference should be kept, no argument there, but RNC didn't fund the site--a GOP senate committee did--could be a matter of semantics.

"which critics have derided as racist" is a lie. You site two sources, both of which are blogs, one blog is quoted below, the other blog make no reference to racism whatsoever.

"Elizabeth Dole is a racist Posted by Jesse on March 10, 2006

Check out FancyFord.com, a racist attack site created by the National Republican Senatorial Committee to oppose Rep. Harold Ford, Jr., who’s running for Senate in Tennessee.

What’s the message behind this site? The line of white women on the front page, the fact that it highlights his attendance at NBA All Star events featuring Biz Markie, the emphasis on opulence all combine to portray Ford as a pimp. The site tries to be subtle in its racism, but it fails.

Elizabeth Dole is the chair of the NRSC. If this is the kind of trash she’s pushing in her tenure, then she should be forced out of the Senate. It’s disgusting."

Blogs are not valid reference material and neither is the poll reference to hearsay.

Please edit today or I will, thanks. Scribner 18:55, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

 * When one of the blogs in question is hosted and written by writers for The New Republic, however, you're not dealing with a run-of-the-mill blog. After reading the post again, while there is not explicit charge of racism, TNR does say the following: "the NRSC is basically portraying Ford as a black pimp. The picture of the Playboy playmates--all of whom, natch, are white--is a particularly nasty touch."  It seems clear that TNR is, at the least, pointing out that NRSC (National Republican Senate Committee) is playing the race card.  Perhaps the wording should be changed from "racist," but I think the sentence should stay.  Rasmussen, if I'm not mistaken, is a somewhat well-respected polling organization.  Yes, I agree the polling method was probably flawed, but the result mentioned in the article was mentioned in the poll's published results. -  Jersyko · talk  21:18, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Your reference is not to the TRN, it's to a blog called, "The Plank". The Plank does not say "the NRSC is basically portraying Ford as a black pimp" as you claim. The Plank does say, "As Jesse Berney (whose post I found via Atrios) points out, the NRSC is basically portraying Ford as a black pimp."

You're using two left wing blogs and a Rasmussen poll of what people think other people think as a claim of racism and slander (black pimp). No way. Also, Ford did visit the Playboy mansion and the vast majority of Playmates are white. I'm white and "black pimp" never crossed my mind.

What did cross my mind is exactly what the GOP senate claims on the site's front page, "Makes you wonder what the folks back in TN think."

It's mudslinging politics, I'll agree with both blogs on that note.Scribner 00:56, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

 * But "The Plank" is The New Republic's blog, see the magazine's homepage and the link to the blog on the right. The New Republic's logo is also in the top left corner on the post's permalink page.  Regardless of whether the thought of Ford as "black pimp" based on the pictures crossed your mind, it's absolutely clear that (1) it crossed the non-notable blogger's mind (Jesse whatever) and (2) it is agreed to by The New Republic writer.  Also, regardless of whether the TNR writer got the idea from the non-notable blogger or not, it's obvious that he agrees with the sentiment.  I completely agree that the website is mudslinging and is most likely designed to, in part, get some rednecks here in TN (I'm a Tennesseean myself) riled up about Ford, either as "black pimp", lavish spender, closet homosexual, or some other unknown slander.  It's completely ridiculous mudslinging.  But it is notable enough to (1) mention the website here and (2) mention the reaction of at least one notable writer to the website.  Finally, the Rasmussen poll information was in the article before anything about fancyford.com was added.  I don't really see that there's supposed to be a connection between the poll results and the website in the article.  To minimize this, perhaps a different paragraph could be written to describe the Rasmussen results, which are actually more varied and interesting than the one "13%" result.  Thoughts? -  Jersyko · talk  23:18, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

 * The poll was in the same paragraph--which begins: "The subject of race comes into play in the election, with a Rasmussen poll..." I've never seen a "he said she thinks poll", never.  Subjective and unscientific--if there is race in the election a poll didn't introduce it, it's 100% subjective.

 * With regard to the "black pimp", lavish spender, closet homosexual", items-- all I saw was lavish spender. Most politicians are.  Ford comes from a wealthy family.  That was the target of the smear, and there was something about a pedicure (whatever in my book).  More mud yes, but not racist, nor black pimp.

 * Anyway, the DSCC has responded with this site and that's an update from Jesse whatevers blog. Mud begets mud.

 * The blogs are biased for use of a claim of racism, or implied racism (black pimp).

 * Why not call it what it is, mudslinging started by the GOP senators, which will likely backfire because Americans are tired of petty politics...can't debate the issues...etc.Scribner 00:56, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Race Poll Justifiable
First off, the poll was done by Rasmussen, which predicted the 2004 presidential election to within .5% of the vote. It is a very reliable and trustworthy pollster which is generally considered conservative leaning, if anything. It asked a simple question and got a simple answer. How is it unscientific? And how are you to decide that? Wikipedia article clearly use rasmussen's polls, proven by the fact that the polls are used when discussing the senate election itself. So we can only use the ones you like but not the ones you don't? What's your criteria for using a poll. It's scientific by Rasmussen sometimes but not other times?

Not your job to decide. It goes back in. --69.249.195.232 08:01, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

2006 9th district race
As an anon has said, this doesn't belong in an article about Ford. It should all go in the district's article. Harr o 5 04:12, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Ideally there should be an article about each congressional (400+) race, every even year. Given that the articles on 34 U.S. Senate seats being contested this year are not exactly robust, it's probably unrealistic to expect articles on 400+ House races in 2006.  Maybe in 2008 when there are two or three or four times as many wikipedia editors.

 * I've shortened the section, but I think it should stay in. Otherwise, the information isn't in wikipedia at all.  John Broughton 12:49, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'll write the article this afternoon. :) -  Jersyko ·talk 14:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree with Harro5 about the placement of the information. There should also be mention of Joe Ford, Jr. Scribner 23:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I wrote a brief article on the 9th and merged the information on the election that was in this article into that one. - Jersyko ·talk 00:05, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Seat history
Blueboy96 noted "Added seat history, since it looks like it can't be done on district pages". [[User:Jersyko|Jersyko}} removed it, saying "who says it can't be done on district pages? isn't there already a 9th District article with this information?".

My response? I took the info from Blueboy96's revision, and put it into the Tennessee's 9th congressional district's article. I think it's a nice touch, actually. -- Sholom 18:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Blueboy96 had that information on the Tennessee's 9th congressional district page as the only history of that district so I edited it to reflect the actual history of the 9th district which is not always in Memphis due to redistricting. I've been trying to standardize the district pages and the general consensus has been to follow the history of the district as it was numbered regardless of where it existed geographically. I hadn't thought of putting both sets of information on the same page but I think for now it'll work so long as it's clear which list of representatives refers to the 9th district throughout time and which refers to Memphis' district throughout time though I think a split into two different pages is ideal in the long run.  -  Bjoel5785 15:33, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Family History
A brief history of Congressman Ford's family is warranted in this article, at best. The family legal problems are not the cause of Harold Ford, Jr. and shouldn't be adressed in his article. If it's decided to keep the family legal problems in his artcle, then let's keep the history factual and watch NPOV--Ophelia Ford was not stripped of her seat. (large can of worms with that statement) The election was voided. End of story.--Scribner 19:37, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed for the most part. I don't have a problem with mentioning the family's legal woes in this article, but you're right in pointing out that they shouldn't be hashed out here.  Big red herring, imo. -  Jersyko ·talk 20:48, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Interviews with Harold Ford, Jr.
Below are links to radio interviews with Harold Ford, Jr. on local Tennessee radio shows. http://www.southernrootsradio.com/sounds/ford2-23-06.mp3 http://www.eddieconner.net/sounds/HF02-13-06.mp3 http://www.southernrootsradio.com/sounds/HFord3-23-06.mp3 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.83.130.158 (talk • contribs).

 * If you would like to include a link in the article, please provide a link to the website page(s) on which the links to these interviews appear. I think users would appreciate that link more than they would a simple list of MP3s with little to no context.  Thanks! ·  j·e·r·s·y·k·o  talk · 20:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

wikiracism continues,...
mine:

The latter commercial has a series of people pretending to be average Americans, average Tennesseeans, mockingly complimenting Mr. Ford, with what are obviously actually insults. This version has been presented by Amy Goodman, Democracy Now!, & by Chris Matthews, MSNBC; both of these have described this version as very racist. The Playboy party woman, very blond Aryan in appearance, is shown twice from shoulders-up, no visible clothes. The second time she says "Harold, call me," as she pantomimes a telephone receiver. Many people interpret these images to Jump Jim Crow. Mr. Matthews has mentioned the Southern strategy, and how this alludes to Southerners' historical terror that "white women" might perceive "black men" as attractive, potentially leading to "race mixing".

someone else':

Ford later admitted he was at the party, saying that he likes "football and girls" and makes no apology for either. Corker condemned the second RNC ad, calling it "tacky" and stating that his campaign has asked to have it pulled.

mine:

Mr. Matthews has challenged Mr. Corker, as well as Tony Snow, to act to have the Playboy reference commercial cancelled; he has posited that Ken Mehlman has engineered these images.

Comments about handicappism, other racism, tend to get deleted, w/ no reason, no explanation.

I have learned much from wikipedia through the past few years; however, the racism is thick & plentiful.

Humanity is doing a rather bad job running itself, unless it's trying to run itself into the ground.

I do wonder which racism is worse. Despite my ambivalence, I do want each to end.

hopiakuta ; [[ <nowiki> </nowiki> { [[%c2%a1]] [[%c2%bf]] [[ %7e%7e%7e%7e ]] } ;]] 06:36, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, I don't understand the racism charges, whomever they're leveled against. Regardless, we need sources for claims in our aritlces.  I live in Memphis, so I've seen the damn Playboy ad more than a dozen times now.  But in order to describe it in the way you have, we need a reliable source to cite to in the article text.  For example, the phrase "Many people interpret these images to Jump Jim Crow" is uncited.  If many people do so, shouldn't it be easy to cite a newspaper article or the like doing just that?  The problem is prevalent throughout the paragraph.  Just cite your sources and the paragraph will be fine. ·  j e r s y k o   talk  · 13:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

"aritlce"?

"...damn Playboy ad,..." Such diminishment of the racism concept; you really do not comprehend the complaint {??}.

Where I use "quotation-marks", I, generally, usually, would have a "direct-quote" available. Where I don't, I'm likely paraphrasing. Learn paraphrase.

However, even quotes can be used to paraphrase, where the context implies that the usage is very individualized, not generally accepted, & where it is emphasized.

However, in either case, I'm certain that Amy Goodman & Chris Matthews had employed various derivatives of "race", "racial", "racism", "racist", et al. That, I can absolutely guarantee.

Mr. Matthews' expressions exhibited a, likely, physical pain during this discussion. I do not know why; but, this was very close to his most emotional display, on either of his shows, yet. This time, it was him, not a panelist, individually, visibly, demonstrating the emotion.

One of a very few more emotional shows had been in 2004; however, in that case, it was not Chris individually. Then, it had been Sen. Zell Miller's veins & arteries bulging as he had described duelism {not dualism; although he, obviously, believes in this even moreso}.

If you sincerely do not comprehend racism, then that is a partial explanation as to why you do not comprehend Jim Crow as a synonym. That, further, exemplifies weaklyp%c3%a6dia's thus far incapability to confront racism, nor its subset, handicappism. It, as well, exemplifies the similar of humanity. I could, certainly, conceive as macaca emerging as not merely a racist accusation, but, also, a "racism" synonym, as macacaism.

Mr. Corker has a radio commercial with "jungle music", as well {i. e.: "Tarzan"}.

How can that refer to anything other than Africa? Do you think that he's referring to South America?

Claire McCaskill has an advertizement starring Michael Andrew Fox; Jim Talent has responded with several celebrities, including Patricia Helen Heaton. Chris has said that he has "no idea" who that is. That does cause me to wonder whether his television can tune cbs. There is much that I do like about her; but, I do dispute her insinuation in this commercial.

So, I have a complaint [each] about Mr. Matthews, as well as Ms. Heaton, both arising today.

Rush Limbaugh's comments about this have been very handicappist.

wikipedia : Reliable_sources:

"...not set in stone and should be treated with common sense,..."

Is it weaklyp%c3%a6dia policy that television is irrelevant? That Judith_Miller_%28journalist%29 or New York Times must certify everything?

Everything there happened on msnbc & worldlink.

Thank You.

hopiakuta ; [[ <nowiki> </nowiki> { [[%c2%a1]] [[%c2%bf]] [[ %7e%7e%7e%7e ]] } ;]] 02:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I think you'd be better served by being a bit more brief in your comments here and not using so many wikilinks. Aside from that, my point is that the text you added was not referenced.  No, TV is not irrelevant, but claims made in our articles must be referenced such that a reader can easily determine what the sources of those claims are.  The added text contained no such references.  See WP:CITE for more.  But perhaps most important is the fact that this paragraph no longer exists in this article, as it really exploded in national media, and it is now in the TN 2006 Senate election article. ·  j e r s y k o   talk  · 02:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Criticism
an editor commented: "the source doesn't say anything about a "distastefully lavish lifestyle", only endorsements from people in L.A.; and i'm not sure wiki should be cataloguing every repub attack as a "criticism" of ford)"

You might want to check out the Corker article and see if you have the same reaction about Dem attacks being catalogued on Wikipedia. As for the reverted bit about Ford Sr.'s use of a racist term, it certainly belongs in the article due to the issue made of race during the campaign. I'll find a suitable source & reinsert. Dubc0724 22:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Did he say cracker or tracker? Good luck putting your pov in the article. Jasper23 22:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Everyone knows he said "cracker". I suppose you also believe that George Allen thought "macaca" and "mohawk" were the same word? Dubc0724 13:04, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Yeah, everyone "knows". Good call on that one. Jasper23 19:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

 * But the controversy section in the Corker article is sourced entirely to newspaper articles, and it's not even stuff that has been discussed, as far as I know, in Dem advertisements. In other words, it's possible but doubtful that the Dems originated the criticism. The "fancy ford" criticism did not originate in news reports, but rather in a political ad (the RSCC website). That's the relevant distinction, I think (the origin of the criticism), and why I said that Wikipedia shouldn't be cataloguing attack ads by Republicans (or Democrats, for that matter). If we did, we'd have to include every innuendo contained in numerous advertisements in both Ford and Corker's articles, wouldn't we? Finally, we need a reliable source to include the Ford Sr. comment in this article. ·  j e r s y k o   talk  · 22:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Comment above.

hopiakuta ; [[ <nowiki> </nowiki> { [[%c2%a1]] [[%c2%bf]] [[ %7e%7e%7e%7e ]] } ;]] 02:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

An encyclop%c3%a6dia should be a "newspaper", but, from a more historical perspective,.... therefore, a more longterm view.

Certainly, it should endeavor to be, to te extent feasible:

True, factual;

Fair, to various opponents, on any relevant issue;

Balanced, in that the various perspectives should be given as much space as feasible. It is improbable to completely avoid value judgement. Claiming to be objective does not make it true; people who claim objectivity, generally are not. Where an author recognizes subjectivity she/he should admit it. Weaklyp%c3%a6dia rarely admits that truth.

It has dipped its toe into campaign advertizing all the way up to its forehead. When someone wants to kill something that they do not agree with, they often jump to objectivity, or some other such rule. For me, the objectivity should rely heavily on balance.

Has this website suddenly run-out of space?

hopiakuta ; [[ <nowiki> </nowiki> { [[%c2%a1]] [[%c2%bf]] [[ %7e%7e%7e%7e ]] } ;]] 03:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure what you're advocating. Are you saying that Wikipedia should, in fact, discuss each and every political advertisement attack ad in articles about political candidates? ·  j e r s y k o   talk  · 03:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

 * No, but it should not ignore criticism of one candidate while trumpeting the criticism of another. Dubc0724 13:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

 * :::Thank You. That does support some of what I've written.  Also, not having so much tendency to employ wikiregulation to kill mention of racism.  &, learning "Jim Crow", & "handicappism {although that word is not relevant on this specific debate about commercials;

it, however, is one of the consistent battles in which I engage, on this website. Handicappism is a subset of racism}".

Thank You.

hopiakuta ; [[ <nowiki> </nowiki> { [[%c2%a1]] [[%c2%bf]] [[ %7e%7e%7e%7e ]] } ;]] 13:48, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

This edit conflict program frequently halts my writing, then, I'm not certain what to do.

hopiakuta ; [[ <nowiki> </nowiki> { [[%c2%a1]] [[%c2%bf]] [[ %7e%7e%7e%7e ]] } ;]] 13:48, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

 * The controversy section in Corker's article is thoroughly sourced, and the controversy section in this article as it stands is as well. We have to source criticism properly.  Do you disagree? ·  j e r s y k o   talk  · 13:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Just a comment...not directed at anyone. An observation. I find it fascinating that, almost without exception, Republican candidates always tend to have more in the "controversies" section. While they may be sourced, and accurate, I don't believe relative completeness (thus fairness) is given to both sides. Some will probably claim "That's because all Republicans are corrupt!" or rubbish like that. Wikipedia does have an intrinsic bias, and I'm not sure yet if it's liberal or not. But it's there. This bias seems to cause more people to update the Republican controversies than Democrat ones. I will say that on national, presidential races, the coverage is probably more fair, as in the case of Kerry and Bush. Doctorcherokee 22:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I recently heard that there is a racist political advertisement against Harold Ford, Jr., run by Bob Corker. That is ridiculous! I am strong opponent of racism. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 07:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

2006 Senate Race
The text states "If elected, Ford would be the first African-American Senator from the South since Reconstruction and the first popularly elected in United States history." Actually, Edward Brooke of Massachusetts was the first popularly elected African-American senator, in 1966, followed by Carol Moseley Braun, in 1992. If the intent is that Ford is the first African-American elected as a Senator from the South, the line is misleading and needs to be rewritten. J5cochran 06:50, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

 * "From the South" is the relevant qualifier, I think, though I didn't add that particular sentence. It should probably be reworded for clarity. ·  j e r s y k o   talk  · 14:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I must say how important that "fact" is. It really deserves to be in the article, because that's all that really matters. Any person that is not white, we have to give their racial makeup (which usually isn't the right classification if I might say so myself *not sarcasm*) and unneeded qualifiers. /sarcasm 216.229.196.116 17:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

The claim that Ford would be the first black senator popularly elected
I have to take issue with that.

Barack Obama --GoHawks4 06:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the wording (somewhat sloppily) says that he will be the first ever black senator popularly elected from the Southern United States, which is what the sentence refers to. I'll tweak the wording unless this is incorrect. Harr o 5 07:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Category
Please add Harold Ford, Jr. to a Chrstian politican category. Harold Ford, Jr. is a very devout Christian and his political stances on inspired by Jesus Christ. 75.2.250.145 03:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

If elected
I suggest that this highly uneeded (and inaccurate in my opinion) qualifier not be added in the first paragraph.
 * If elected, Ford would be the first African-American Senator from the South since the end of Reconstruction, and the first such Senator popularly elected in United States history. Shakam 06:04, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, the qualifier "would" implies that it is not certain, and "If elected" is indeed irrelevant. Stealthound 06:15, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Not what I was aiming for, but uhmm.... Well, I was talking about attributing his "African-Americaness" achievement to Senator. (that qualifier) Shakam 07:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

 * This has been widely reported and repeated in media. What do you find incorrect about the statement? ·  j e r s y k o   talk  · 14:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

"african american"?
he's not really black. is he multiracial or something? Joeyramoney 01:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

He is, but people get ticky when you try to change things dealing with African-American identified multiracials. Just take a look at the Barack Obama talk page (the archived section as well. Shakam 06:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * if he is biracial it is innacurate and biased to only mention his black heritage. 67.172.61.222 21:56, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Debate?
The page says this "NBC's Meet the Press extended an invitation for the candidates to debate on the nationally-televised show in January 2006"

Why would there be a candidate debate in January? That must be wrong. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eric.thomas (talk • contribs).

 * The open invitation was extended in Jan. 2006. The debate was to happen anytime thereafter.  I'll change the wording accordingly. · j e r s y k o talk · 14:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Organization
In order to be effective, the House of Representatives section needs to be categorized via year since the subject of the article has served for ten years. Real96 01:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Minute Details
The grammar is a little wordy in this article. Maybe if the sentences were to be cut short as well as correct tense structure, then the article would be fine. Also, some of the references don't work. The original author should have cited the references via date, instead of placing "just links." Real96 08:09, 11 February 2007 (UTC) Speaking of minute details, Race to the Whitehouse is now 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Occupation
Um... How can the sidebar to this article give Mr. Ford's occupation as "attorney"? To the best of my knowledge, he has never been admitted to the bar in any state, territory, or the District of Columbia; he has only sat for the Tennessee Bar Examination once and failed that. If that is the case, he cannot practice law in the United States, and cannot accurately be described as an "attorney". If he has been admitted to the bar in some U.S. jurisdiction, that fact should be fairly easy to document. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.192.11.224 (talk) 17:19, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Good point. I agree. Interwebs (talk) 17:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Harold Ford Admits "Wrongness" on Gay Marriage, Gets Heckled by Stonewall Democrats
This article should be addressed in Harold Ford, Jr's wiki-article: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/02/harold_ford.php Native94080 (talk) 06:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

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Old discussions for this Talk page (August 2006 - September 2011) are at the Archive 1 page (linked above). --Chonak (talk) 00:53, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

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Dear Chonak,

I notice that you have changed it back to "Mr" Milingo. Let me try to explain why I had it changed to "Archbishop MIlingo". You are using the AAS text written in Italian. You have translated it yourself "Sig" as meaning "Mr" as indeed it does. But in fact ,you have made, a sort of unauthorised unofficial translation into english but you should have used the official english translation from the Holy See Press Office. cf. http://visnews-en.blogspot.com/2009/12/communique-milingo-dismissed-from.html   In this official and your translation of the Italian text is unofficial and unauthorised  I believe you should use this offical english translation from the Vatican Press Office and in it  You will see that Milingo is addressed as Archbishop Milingo all throughout the text even referring to him as Archbishop after it referes to the effects of him being reduced to the lay state. Some please, please be charitable and use as the official english translation from the Holy See Press Office does and refer to him as "Archbishop Milingo". Many thanks indeed. And as the Wip art. is in english then it seems logical to use the official Vatican Press Office translation in english too! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haroldjn (talk • contribs) 16:00, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

 * Dear Haroldjn, The Italian statement differs from the English statement in just a few details.
 * The English version begins: "For a number of years the Church has followed with great concern the difficulties caused by the regrettable conduct of Archbishop Emmanuel Milingo." The Italian begins (my translation): "For several years the Church has followed with particular suffering the developments connected with the unpleasant behaviors of the Archbishop Emeritus of Lusaka, Emmanuel Milingo."  Clearly the English translation issued by the Press Office is a little bit free, and there's nothing wrong with that. But people who watch the Vatican know that only what is published in  Acta Apostolicae Sedis is authoritative: translations into other languages are merely provided as a convenience. Even if produced by a Vatican office, they shouldn't be relied on if they differ from the authoritative document.
 * Acta Apostolicae Sedis is the journal by which official acts of the Holy See are published. Publication in AAS is itself a sign that this is a serious statement.  Legal acts of the Holy See usually do not go into effect until their publication in AAS.
 * Acta Apostolicae Sedis is the journal by which official acts of the Holy See are published. Publication in AAS is itself a sign that this is a serious statement.  Legal acts of the Holy See usually do not go into effect until their publication in AAS.
 * Acta Apostolicae Sedis is the journal by which official acts of the Holy See are published. Publication in AAS is itself a sign that this is a serious statement.  Legal acts of the Holy See usually do not go into effect until their publication in AAS.

 * For these reasons, we should treat the statement in AAS as the authoritative expression from the Holy See and not encourage readers to rely on an English-language counterpart that deviates from it in a few details.

 * For a compromise, let me propose this: (1) Quote from the English-language statement, including the title "Archbishop" instead of "Mr." (2) Recognize that the statement comes from the Secretary of State and not merely from the Press Office, so that there is no longer any need to call the statement "unsigned". (3) The Secretary's authoritative written statement published in AAS should be distinguished from the oral comments of Fr. Benedettini.
 * --Chonak (talk) 05:05, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Dear Chonak, Many thank fo your comments. I agree to point (1) that Milingo should be ascribed the title of "Archbishop" as ascribed to him in the english translation.

However, in points (2) and (3) it is clear to me that the statement comes NOT from the Secr. of State Office but rather from the Vatican Press Office. Please see: http://visnews-ita.blogspot.com/2009/12/comunicato-riduzione-stato-laicale.html   "CITTA' DEL VATICANO, 17 DIC. 2009 (VIS). La Sala Stampa della Santa Sede ha reso pubblico nella tarda mattinata di oggi il seguente Comunicato".If the Communique would have been from the Secr. of State it would have clearly said so. But it didn't. The first Statement concerning Milingo was issued by the Congreg of Doctrine and Faith and NOT by the Secr. of State. The Sec. of States Office deals with Interntional relations between the foreign states and general matters.If a Congreg. would have issued the statement it would have either been the Congreg. of Bishops or the Congreg. of Faith & Doctrine. And it would have been CLEARLY signed too!Therefore this clearly was a statement that came from the Vatican Press Office and was duely printed in the AAS to make things legal. The explanation of it therefore was down to its authors - ie. the Rev. Ciro, deputy director of the Vatican Press Office. Haroldjn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.10.83.143 (talk) 15:20, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but to come back to the point again. At the bottem of the above mentioned ref. you will clearly see: "Pubblicato da VIS - Holy See Press Office - giovedì, dicembre 17, 2009". Published by the Vatican Press Office. No reference whatsoever is made indicating that it was published by the Secr. of State. For some reason you seem to given something issed by the Vatican Press Office less importance but its purpose is " Il Vatican Information Service (VIS), istituito nell'ambito della Sala Stampa della Santa Sede, è un bollettino telematico che diffonde notizie relative all'attività magistrale e pastorale del Santo Padre e della Curia Romana... ". The Communique was merely published in the official Italian language in the AAS to legalise its effects. If it were from the Secr. of State it would have been duly signed by him or at least the sub _Secretary of State. If it would have been published by any Congregato it would have been published either by the Congregation of Bishops or the Congregation of Faith & Doctrine as was the case when Milingo attempted to marry.And this document was signed by its Prefect. So I am sorry but I suggest that we will have to maintain that it was an "unsigned communique issued and published by the VIS" (as stated on the above mentioned web page whose Italian is exactly the same as printed in the AAS for legal validity of the act. So it is not therefore perfectly normal that the Rev Ciro who was the Communiques author to present and release it at his Press Conference. Is the author not the best one to explain its significance and meaning etc. best wishes, haroldjan  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haroldjn (talk • contribs) 17:53, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

PLEASE SEE: http://press.catholica.va/news_services/bulletin/news/18881.php?index=18881&po_date=26.09.2006&lang=fr#Testo in lingua inglese An unsigned statement clearly from the Vatican Press Office  "DICHIARAZIONE DELLA SALA STAMPA DELLA SANTA SEDE SULLA PRESENTE SITUAZIONE ECCLESIALE DELL’ARCIVESCOVO EMMANUEL MILINGO"  2006 Not from the Sec of State!!! The statemnet was no different from the statement also issued by the Vatican Press Office about him being reduced to the lay state - both unsigned!!!!!!!And at least the 2009 communique was published in the AAS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haroldjn (talk • contribs) 18:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC) The 2009 Vatican Press Statement "COMUNICATO DELLA SALA STAMPA DELLA SANTA SEDE: DIMISSIONE DALLO STATO CLERICALE DI EMMANUEL MILINGO" http://press.catholica.va/news_services/bulletin/news/24835.php?index=24835&po_date=17.12.2009&lang=fr#TESTO IN LINGUA ITALIANA The 2006 Declaration entitled: DICHIARAZIONE DELLA SALA STAMPA DELLA SANTA SEDE SULLA PRESENTE SITUAZIONE ECCLESIALE DELL’ARCIVESCOVO EMMANUEL MILINGO". The   2006 Declaration is written clearly in the same language as the 2009 Communique - but they (the Vatican Press office, I think, forgot to publish the 2006 Declaration in the AAS. (I am not absolutely sure about that but think so anyway.) Who can therefore seriously doubt the authorship and origin of both documents!!!!!!!! best wishes,

Haroldjn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haroldjn (talk • contribs) 19:02, 14 September 2011 (UTC) Dear Chonak, Hoping that you are well? I had another thought about the matter and it is if the 2006 DICHIARAZIONE of the Vatican Press Office was not published in the AAS (and I think it wasn't but cannot be sure) at least I could not find it on the Vatican achieve site. Something is surely odd- the Costa and Thuc illicit episcopal ordinations and the lefebrve illicit ordinations were condemned directly in a clearily signed document from the Congr. for Doctrine and Faith. Milingo was cautioned about his attempted marriage by the Congret. of Doctrine and Faith in a clearly signed document. BUT the Vatican Press Office were the ones that dealt with the illicit Milingo ordinations and in an unsigned document too. Maybe someone in the Vatican Press Office forgot to send the 2006 Declaration to the Secr of State to be published in the AAS. But if the 2006 Declaration of the Vatican Press Office was not published in the AAS then according to what you have said its contents have no legal effect!!!!!!! Obviously if the Vatican Press Office dealt with the Milingo question in 2006 they are clearly going to see it through to the end. Seems to me that someone in the Vatican Press Office remembered to send the 2009 Communique to the Secr of States Office for publication in the AAS. Here in Brazil were I live, the various government Ministries, Agencies etc have to send all their acts and nominations to the President's Office so they can get published in the Governments Offical Journal callled Gazeta Oficial- only when they are published there they become legelly valid and take effect. Maybe the Holy See did not go through the normal channels because they wanted to leave the 'door open' for Milngo and his bishops, never ever accused of being schismatic. Incidently, even though the illicitly ordained bishops of Lefebrve had their excommunications lifted they are still (like the Milingo bishops) insofar as hey have no canonical mission meaning no fromal legal mission to exercise any ministry. Perhaps this fact should be clearly indicated on the art about Archbishop Milingo. I just want you, Chonak to try and keep the tone of the article as fair as possible without any undue prejudice to Milingo. haroldjn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haroldjn (talk • contribs) 13:44, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

 * Sorry I haven't responded, but my work is keeping me too busy to contribute to WP these days. Best wishes to all. --Chonak (talk) 22:41, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

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Sedevacantist, Protestant, or "Catholic"?
There are multiple sources which claim these, specifically of him being a Protestant now after his laicization or him becoming a member of one of the random "Catholic" churches. KEleison (talk) 22:33, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Like which ones? For that matter, do you have a source for his death, so that I do not revert you for the same thing that an IP user was blocked, per WP:BLPREMOVE? Elizium23 (talk) 00:13, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Just searching online brings a bunch of results, but some claim he became a Moonie. Also, there are many sources for his death but not on major news networks. For example, one source I found using Yandex was https://tumfweko.com/2021/02/07/former-catholic-archbishop-emmanuel-milingo-dies/ KEleison (talk) 00:29, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Also, Mwebantu Zambian News Network reported his death as well. KEleison (talk) 00:37, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

 * His death has been publicly denied. He is in hospital but hopefully getting better. --79.24.121.9 (talk) 11:11, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * [citation needed] Elizium23 (talk) 18:54, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

 * Here it is the official denial. And he is recovering even faster than expected. --79.24.121.9 (talk) 19:06, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Not a WP:RS. Neither is tumfweko.com. So far I have seen no RS with any news. Elizium23 (talk) 19:51, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The Zambian Observer is a reliable source. He is still in hospital, but better. And in any case, that's you who needs to have reliable sources for his death, which aren't there beucause it is utter fake news.--79.24.121.9 (talk) 19:51, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

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Tim Page (photographer)

Timothy John Page (25 May 1944 – 24 August 2022) was a British photographer. He was noted for the photos he took of the Vietnam War, and was later based in Brisbane, Australia.

Early life
Page was born John Spencer Russell in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, on 25 May 1944. He did not know his birth mother; his biological father was killed in a torpedo attack in the Arctic while serving in the Royal Navy during World War II and Page was put up for adoption after he was born. His adoptive father worked as an accountant; his adoptive mother was a housewife. Page was raised in Orpington, and left England in 1962 to make his way overland driving through Europe, Pakistan, India, Burma, Thailand and Laos. Without money in Laos, he found work as an agricultural advisor for USAID.

Career
Page began work as a press photographer in Laos stringing for UPI and AFP, having taught himself photography. His exclusive photographs of an attempted coup d'état in Laos in 1965 for UPI got him a staff position in the Saigon bureau of the news agency. He is celebrated for his work as a freelance accredited press photographer in Vietnam and Cambodia during the 1960s, also finding time to cover the Six-Day War in the Middle East in 1967. Due to a near-death experience in the early 1960s, he came to view his life as "free time". This led him to take photographs in dangerous situations where other journalists would not venture. Similarly, Page was captivated by the excitement and glamour of warfare, which helped contribute to the style of photographs he is acclaimed for.

By late 1965 Page was sharing a house at 47 Bui Thi Xuan, Saigon, with Leonardo Caparros and fellow correspondents Simon Dring, Martin Stuart-Fox and Steve Northup, known as "Frankie's House" after the resident Vietnamese houseboy. Frankie's House became a social club for a group of correspondents between field assignments and their friends who smoked marijuana there. Page did not shy away from the drug culture he was involved in during his time in Vietnam, devoting a large amount of his book Page after Page to it. In Dispatches, Michael Herr wrote of Page as the most "extravagant" of the "wigged-out crazies running around Vietnam", due in most respects to the amount of drugs that he enjoyed taking. His unusual personality was part of the inspiration for the character of the journalist played by Dennis Hopper in Apocalypse Now.

In 1965, shortly after Page got his first publication in Life magazine, Beryl Fox was filming The Mills of the Gods: Vietnam for the CBC series Document. During three weeks of filming, Page was hired to shoot some of the documentary. At a time when the anti-war movement was in its infancy, the film helped to open conversations around the world. In 1966, the film won the George Polk Award for Best Television Documentary and the Canadian Film Award for Film of the Year.

Page was injured in action four times. The first, in September 1965, was in Chu Lai where he was struck by shrapnel in the legs and stomach; the second was in Da Nang during the 1966 Buddhist riots, where he received more shrapnel wounds to the head, back, and arms; the third in August 1966 happened in the South China sea, where he was on board the Coast Guard cutter USCGC Point Welcome, when it was mistaken for a Viet Cong ship, and U.S. Air Force pilots strafed the vessel, leaving Page adrift at sea with over two hundred wounds. Lastly, in April 1969, Page jumped out of a helicopter to help load wounded soldiers. At the same time, a sergeant stepped on a mine close by, sending a 2-inch piece of shrapnel into Page's head. This list of injuries led his colleagues in the field to joke that he would never make it to 23 years of age. He spent the next year in the United States undergoing extensive neuro-surgery. During recovery he became closely involved with the Vietnam Veterans Against the War and worked as a caregiver for amputees, traumatically shocked and stressed young men. One of these was Ron Kovic. Richard Boyle was also friends with Kovic and Page at this time.

On 9 December 1967, Page was arrested in New Haven, Connecticut, along with fellow journalists Mike Zwerin and Yvonne Chabrier at the infamous Doors concert where Jim Morrison was arrested onstage. Charges against all four were dropped due to lack of evidence.

Page had a part in the Papers on a war, which became the Pentagon Papers, released by Daniel Ellsberg who had stayed at Frankie's House. Ellsberg gave Page a copy inscribed "To Tim who may well have changed the course of the war".

In the 1970s Page worked as a freelance photographer for music magazines such as Crawdaddy and Rolling Stone. In January 1973 Page spent time with Bill Cardoso and Hunter S. Thompson, who was covering Super Bowl VII. Page photographed Thompson riding a Black Shadow Motorbike, but Rolling Stone lost the negatives. Rolling Stone wanted Page to go back to Vietnam with Thompson in 1975 but Thompson said Page was too crazy. During Page's recovery in the spring of 1970 he learnt of the capture of his best friend, roommate and fellow photo-journalist Sean Flynn in Cambodia. Throughout the 1970s and 80s he tried to discover Flynn's fate and final resting place and wanted to erect a memorial to all those in the media who either were killed or went missing in the war. This led him to found the Indochina Media Memorial Foundation and was the genesis for the book Requiem, co-edited with fellow Vietnam War photographer Horst Faas. Requiem won the George Polk Book Award and the Robert Capa Gold Medal in 1997. Page's quest to clear up the mystery of Flynn's fate continued into his later years.

Page's book Requiem contains photographs taken by all of the photographers and journalists killed during the Vietnamese wars against the Japanese, French and Americans. Requiem has become since early 2000 a travelling photographic exhibition placed under the custody of the George Eastman House International Museum of Photography and Film. The exhibition has been presented in Vietnam's War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City, as well as in New York City, Chicago, Atlanta, Washington, D.C., Tokyo, Hanoi, Lausanne, and London. In 2011, it was selected to be the main exhibition of the Month of Photography Asia in Singapore.

Page also covered wars in Israel, Bosnia and Afghanistan. As a peace activist he was patron of organisations such as Mine Action Group and Soldier On, a veterans' support group in Australia. He was keen to "highlight the folly of war", stating that "the only good war photograph is an anti-war photograph".

Later years
Page was the subject of many documentaries and two films, and the author of many books. He lived in Brisbane, Australia, having retired from covering wars. He was an adjunct professor of photojournalism at Griffith University.

"I had died. I lived. I had seen the tunnel. It was black. It was nothing. There was no light at the end. There was no afterlife. Nothing religious about any of it. And it did not seem scary. It was a long, flowing, no-colour wave which just disappeared. The mystery was partly resolved, all the fearful church propaganda took on its true, shameful meaning. I was content. I was alive. I was not dead, and it seemed very clear, very free. This was the dawning, the overture to losing a responsible part of my psyche. A liberation happened at that intersection. Anything from here on would be free time, a gift from the gods"

- concerning his near-death experience following a 1960 motorcycle accident

During the 2010–2011 Queensland floods, Page's archives in his basement were damaged, highlighting at the time the need for a longer-term home for what he estimated were three-quarters of a million images accumulated over his 45-year career.

The Australian War Memorial holds a collection of Page's photography.

Personal life
Page's three marriages ended in divorce. He had one child, Kit, from his relationship with Clare Clifford.

Page died on 24 August 2022 at his home in Bellingen, New South Wales. He was 78, and had liver cancer prior to his death.

Publications

 * Tim Page's Nam (1983) ISBN 978-0-394-53005-5
 * Sri Lanka (1984) ISBN 978-0-500-24120-2
 * Ten Years After: Vietnam Today (1987) ISBN 978-0-394-56464-7
 * Page after Page: Memoirs of a War-Torn Photographer (1988)
 * Derailed in Uncle Ho's Victory Garden (1995) ISBN 978-0-684-81667-8
 * Mid Term Report (1995) ISBN 978-0-500-27795-9
 * Requiem (1997) ISBN 978-0-679-45657-5
 * The Mindful Moment (2001) ISBN 978-0-500-54242-2
 * Another Vietnam (2002) ISBN 978-0-7922-6465-1

Films about Page

 * Danger on the Edge of Town (1991) – a film on Page's search to discover the fate of his friends Sean Flynn and Dana Stone who disappeared in Cambodia in 1970
 * Frankie's House – a 1992 British/Australian miniseries, portrayed by Iain Glen
 * Vietnam's Unseen War (Pictures from the Other Side)
 * Mentioned in Dispatches (BBC Arena, 1979)

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Diesel Sweeties

Diesel Sweeties is known as a webcomic and former newspaper comic strip written by Richard Stevens III (R Stevens). The comic began in 2000, originally hosted at robotstories.com. From January 2007 until August 2008 it was syndicated to over 20 United States newspapers, including major daily newspapers like The Detroit News and Houston Chronicle.

Material from Diesel Sweeties appears in Ted Rall's Attitude 3: The New Subversive Online Cartoonists, along with other webcomics such as Cat and Girl, Dinosaur Comics, Boy on a Stick and Slither, Fetus-X, and The Perry Bible Fellowship.

Stevens is a co-founder of the Dumbrella alliance of webcomic artists. Stephens is one of the few professional webcomic artists, who has since 2002 supported himself through online sales of merchandise related to his comics.

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In late 2006, Richard Stevens announced that Diesel Sweeties would be syndicated to newspapers through United Features Syndicate. Some newspapers began running the strip on January 1, 2007, to replace FoxTrot by Bill Amend, which had ended its daily run,. The regular distribution began a week later, on January 8. On June 26, 2008, Stevens announced that the print run of Diesel Sweeties would end on August 10 of that year. Stephens had doubled his comics workload by creating separate strips for the newspaper and web versions of Diesel Sweeties, and had produced about 600 strips specifically for the newspapers. Stevens cited exhaustion from doing a dozen strips per week, as well as the fact that the majority of his income remained tied to the website. Stevens estimated that "about 50 papers ran DS at one point or another."

Format
For the first several years, the comic consisted of four square panels of dialogue in a two-by-two grid, with a punchline (often a non sequitur, pun, or pop culture reference) in the final panel. In 2005 Stevens abandoned this traditional form and began consistently publishing strips with more panels in slightly more varied configurations. Single panels of the strip are occasionally animated. The comic depicts a world where robots exist alongside humans, with human-robot romantic and sexual relationships commonplace. Although there is some character development and the occasional story arc, most strips are largely self-contained. Recurring themes include annual Halloween strips, featuring characters from the comic in costume.

Characters
Diesel Sweeties incorporates many characters from other fictional works, from the real world, and introduces many original characters.

Main characters (online version)
The main characters in Diesel Sweeties are:

 * Clango Cyclotron, an emotional robot. Clango was introduced as the boyfriend of Maura Glee, the relationship later ended, and he moved on to dating Pale Suzie. Pale Suzie later shot him with an orbital laser when she suspected he was cheating on her with Maura. He deliberately erased his memory so that he "can be even more innocent than (he) is now!" Unfortunately Indie Rock Pete intentionally broke the backup CD, and Clango had to be restarted with an old boot disk from his days with Maura. He thinks he is still dating Maura. He was adopted by human parents, and has several famous human aunts and uncles, including Steve Wozniak, Beck, Courtney Love, and Stan Lee. Introduced in strip #1.
 * Maura Demeter Glee (full name revealed in strip 1698 ), an alcoholic ex-pornstar. Maura was introduced as Clango's girlfriend, and she later got dumped for cheating on him. After Clango had his memory erased without a recent backup, Maura provided an old one and thus they are now back together. Introduced in strip #1. After an around the world bender, Maura was allegedly shipped back to Clango as a brain in a jar, a situation resolved as of Friday 5 December 2008. (The jar turned out to contain Billy Brainjar, a minor character.)
 * Indie Rock Pete (later found to be named "Peter Gaylord Weiner", much to his disdain in strip #1241), a poseur obsessed with the idea of maintaining a façade of indie cred. Attempts to manipulate the other characters, but usually fails. Pete works as a substitute high school teacher, and developed a crush on Frieda Berger, one of his students, before finding out she was in high school. Introduced in strip #2. Apparently killed by gunshot to the head in strip #2307, but the strip's title ("not cannon"), may be a hint that it is not real, as is his appearances in strips after the incident #2309 anon.
 * Lil' Sis, Maura's younger sister. Worked at a comic store for a time. Her name is generally not mentioned, but was once revealed as "Persephone Marie" in strip #1241. Was once featured in Questionable Content strip #171) as the girlfriend of a minor character. Introduced in strip #5.
 * Electron Mike, an extreme technophile who listens to techno and collects iPods. Has a hate/hate relationship with Red Robot, and would rather recompile his Linux kernel than introduce effort into anything non-electronic. Introduced in strip #558.
 * Metal Steve (found to have the last name "Wozniak" in strip #1819), a mullet-sporting rocker. The virginal yin to Pete's lecherous yang. He has had ongoing flirtations with both Lil Sis and Pale Suzie, but neither has successfully bedded him. Implied to be unusually well-endowed (strip #767); he was briefly recruited by Maura as a porn star for masturbation movies, but was run out of the business for refusing to work with a partner. Married Allie V. (Allison Vegetoksis) a dreadlocked vegetarian from L.A. that he "corrupted" with bacon, after his refusal for "dirty desertie" (he was saving himself for marriage), she proposed and they married (strip #2108). Introduced in strip #76.
 * Pale Suzie, a cheerful goth chick and occasional furry who went on a date with Clango, while he and Maura were "on a break". She dated Clango for several months, but after she accused Clango of cheating on her with Maura (after they had been playing Wii together), he had his memory erased so that he "can be even more innocent than (he) is now!". Indie Rock Pete broke the backup CD and Clango is unaware he dated Pale Suzie. She is in a relationship with Charles. Introduced in strip #436.
 * Red Robot #C-63, a robot dedicated to the crushing of human (written as "hu-mans"), although he has also been known to date them on occasion. He is wealthy after making a deal with Maura. Introduced in strip #24.
 * OtaKate, a blue-haired otaku girl introduced in strip 1711 as a result of Pale Suzie's online dating mishap (Suzie thought Kate was a man pretending to be a woman). Probably bisexual. Through her profile on "DeathwishDamsels.com" (a play on SuicideGirls, she meets Indie Rock Pete. Later she becomes involved with Electron Mike, but dumps Mike hoping to bed Pale Suzie. After Suzie rejects her, she decides on "stuffy older men" and starts dating "Uncle Larry", a philatelist-porn producer.
 * Freyja Tryggvason, a tall, dark-haired girl ("The Strongest Woman on Earth") introduced in strip 1973 answering Indie Rock Pete's ad for a drummer in his band. Her background is explained in strip 1976 where we are told she is "The daughter of a Norwegian Diplomat and an all-star women's basketball coach, raised on genetically modified corn in Nebraska, she has always been the tallest girl around". She is Red Robot #C-63's current girlfriend.
 * Allie Vegetoksis, a vegan, non-violent, dreadlocked, trustafarian hippie. She is Metal Steve's wife.

Cameos from other comics and fiction

 * DIV from Penny Arcade in strip #42.
 * Red Robot from Explodingdog in many strips, starting with strip #24.
 * Roger from When I Grow Up in strip #79.
 * Shelley Winters and Fallon Young from Scary Go Round in strip #245.
 * Shockwave from Transformers in strip #223.
 * Tycho from Penny Arcade in strip #85 and #131.
 * Weedmaster P from Overcompensating in strip #1338.

Cartoons of real people
Diesel Sweeties often shows pixelated versions of real people in the strip. Some of these people include:

 * Richard Belzer in strip #1471.
 * Ann Coulter in strip #803.
 * Glenn Danzig in strip #666.
 * Sabrina Eldredge in strip #39.
 * Beck Hansen (Beck) in strip #578.
 * Adolf Hitler in strip #368, #536, #693, #782, and #809.
 * Richard D. James (Aphex Twin) in strip #260.
 * Xeni Jardin in strip #1471.
 * Stan Lee in strip #715.
 * Scott McCloud in strip #187.
 * Barack Obama in strip #1685.
 * Joe Biden in strip #2134.
 * Ozzy Osbourne in strip #154.
 * Jonathan Pater in strip #183 and #1244.
 * Arnold Schwarzenegger in strip #748.
 * Richard Stevens (the author himself) in strip #1525, #1805, #1806, #1807, #1925, #1983, and #2424.
 * Corin Tucker in strip #150.
 * Steve Wozniak in strip #138 and #1471.
 * Jeffrey Zeldman in strip #37.
 * Wil Wheaton in strips #2209 and #2210.

Main characters (newspaper version)
Comics.com described the strip as "reformatted" for family newspapers.

 * Clango Cyclotron is a robot, a nice guy, and as red-blooded a male as a robot can be. He has been dating Maura Glee for some time and trying his best to understand humans.
 * Maura Glee is a retired dot-com investor (or porn star) who cashed out before the market went south in, presumably, 2000. She is bored, but loves Clango, to the exclusion of others, especially human males.  Her hobbies include drinking and more drinking.
 * Indie Rock Pete composes music that nobody will hear. He manages a video store that refuses to rent movies that have been released on DVD.  He discusses matters of the world with Clango.
 * Lil' Sis is Maura's younger sister. She has recently moved in with Indie Rock Pete, but alas, it is platonic. She longs for Pete, but he's not buying.
 * Metal Steve is a real musician, a true rocker. Lil' Sis is interested in him as well.
 * Red Robot #C-63 has a mission, which is to kill every human on the planet. This, however, does not prevent him from exchanging bits of philosophy with the others in the pixelated crew, human and otherwise.
 * Mr. Bear appears infrequently.

Other new characters for the newspaper version included TV, Coffee Maker, and Kitten. Together, they rule the household.

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Neunkirchen

Neunkirchen may refer to the following places:

In Austria

 * Neunkirchen, Austria, the capital of the district Neunkirchen in Lower Austria
 * Neunkirchen District, Austria

Baden-Württemberg

 * Neunkirchen, Baden-Württemberg, in Neckar-Odenwald district

Bavaria

 * Neunkirchen am Brand, in Forchheim district
 * Neunkirchen am Sand, in Nürnberger Land district
 * Neunkirchen, Lower Franconia, in Miltenberg district
 * A part of Weiden in der Oberpfalz

Hesse
a district of the municipality Modautal in Hesse, see Modautal

North Rhine-Westphalia

 * Neunkirchen (Siegerland), a locality in Siegen-Wittgenstein district
 * Neunkirchen-Seelscheid, in Rhein-Sieg district

Rhineland-Palatinate

 * Neunkirchen, Bernkastel-Wittlich, part of the Verbandsgemeinde Thalfang am Erbeskopf in Bernkastel-Wittlich district
 * Neunkirchen am Potzberg, part of the Verbandsgemeinde Altenglan in Kusel district
 * Neunkirchen, Westerwaldkreis, part of the Verbandsgemeinde Rennerod in Westerwaldkreis

Saarland

 * Neunkirchen, Saarland, capital of the district of Neunkirchen
 * Neunkirchen (German district)

In France

 * Neunkirchen-lès-Bouzonville, municipality in the Moselle department

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Green Knight

The Green Knight (Marchog Gwyrdd, Marghek Gwyrdh, Marc'heg Gwer) is a heroic character of the Matter of Britain, originating in the 14th-century poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight and the related medieval work The Greene Knight. His true name is revealed to be Bertilak de Hautdesert (spelled in some translations as "Bercilak" or "Bernlak") in Sir Gawain, while The Greene Knight names him "Bredbeddle". The Green Knight later features as one of Arthur's greatest champions in the fragmentary ballad "King Arthur and King Cornwall", again with the name "Bredbeddle".

In Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, Bertilak is transformed into the Green Knight by Morgan le Fay, a traditional adversary of King Arthur, to test his court. However, in The Greene Knight, he is transformed by a different woman for the same purpose. In both stories, he sends his wife to seduce Gawain as a further test. "King Arthur and King Cornwall" portrays him as an exorcist and one of the most powerful knights of Arthur's court. His wider role in Arthurian literature includes being a judge and tester of knights, and as such, the other characters consider him as friendly but terrifying and somewhat mysterious.

In Sir Gawain, the Green Knight is so called because his skin and clothes are green. The meaning of his greenness has puzzled scholars. Some identify him as the Green Man, a vegetation being of medieval art; others as a recollection of a figure from Celtic mythology; a Christian "pagan" symbol – the personified Devil. The medievalist C. S. Lewis said the character was "as vivid and concrete as any image in literature." Scholar J. A. Burrow called him the "most difficult character" to interpret.

Historical context
The earliest appearance of the Green Knight is in the late 14th-century alliterative poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, which survives in only one manuscript along with other poems by the same author, the so-called Pearl Poet. This poet was a contemporary of Geoffrey Chaucer, writer of The Canterbury Tales, although the two wrote in different parts of England. The later poem, The Greene Knight, is a late medieval rhyming romance that likely predates its only surviving copy: the 17th-century Percy Folio. The other work featuring the Green Knight, the later ballad "King Arthur and King Cornwall", also survives only in the Percy Folio manuscript. Its date of composition is uncertain, as it may be a version of an earlier story, or possibly a product of the 17th century.

Role in Arthurian literature
In Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, the Green Knight appears before Arthur's court during a Christmas feast, holding a bough of holly in one hand and a battle axe in the other. Despite disclaim of war, the knight issues a challenge: he will allow one man to strike him once with his axe, with the condition that he return the blow the next year. At first, Arthur accepts the challenge, but Gawain takes his place and decapitates the Green Knight, who retrieves his head, reattaches it and tells Gawain to meet him at the Green Chapel at the stipulated time.

The Knight features next as Bertilak de Hautedesert, lord of a large castle, Gawain's host before his arrival at the Green Chapel. At Bertilak's castle, Gawain is submitted to tests of his loyalty and chastity, wherein Bertilak sends his wife to seduce Gawain and arranges that each time Bertilak gains prey in hunting, or Gawain any gift in the castle, each shall exchange his gain for the other's. At New Year's Day, Gawain departs to the Green Chapel, and bends to receive his blow, only to have the Green Knight feint two blows, then barely nick him on the third. He then reveals that he is Bertilak, and that Morgan le Fay had given him the double identity to test Gawain and Arthur.

The Greene Knight tells the same story as Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, with a few differences. Notably, the knight, here named "Bredbeddle", is only wearing green, not green-skinned himself. The poem also states the knight has been asked by his wife's mother (not Morgan in this version) to trick Gawain. He agrees because he knows his wife is secretly in love with Gawain, and hopes to deceive both. Gawain falters in accepting a girdle from her, and the Green Knight's purpose is fulfilled in a small sense. In the end, he acknowledges Gawain's ability and asks to accompany him to Arthur's court.

In King Arthur and King Cornwall, the Green Knight again features as Bredbeddle, and is depicted as one of Arthur's knights. He offers to help Arthur fight a mysterious sprite (controlled by the magician, King Cornwall) which has entered his chamber. When physical attacks fail, Bredbeddle uses a sacred text to subdue it. The Green Knight eventually gains so much control over the sprite through this text that he convinces it to take a sword and strike off its master's head.

Etymologies
The name "Bertilak" may derive from bachlach, a Celtic word meaning "churl" (i.e. rogueish, unmannerly), or from "bresalak", meaning "contentious". The Old French word bertolais is a form of "Bertilak" in the Arthurian tale Merlin from the Lancelot-Grail cycle. Notably, the 'Bert-' prefix means 'bright', and the '-lak' can mean either 'lake' or "play, sport, fun, etc". "Hautdesert" probably comes from a mix of both Old French and Celtic words meaning "High Wasteland" or "High Hermitage". It may also have an association with desirete meaning "disinherited" (i.e. from the Round Table).

Green Knights in other stories

Characters similar to the Green Knight appear in several other works. In Thomas Malory's Le Morte d'Arthur, for example, Gawain's brother Gareth defeats four brothers in different coloured armour, including a "Grene Knyght" named Sir Partolope. The three who survive the encounter eventually join the Round Table and appear several further times in the text. The stories of Saladin feature a certain "Green Knight"; a Spanish warrior (maybe from Castile, according to an Arab source) in a shield vert and a helmet adorned with stag horns. Saladin tries to make him part of his personal guard. Similarly, a "Chevalier Vert" appears in the Chronicle of Ernoul during the recollection of events following the capture of Jerusalem in 1187; here, he is identified as a Spanish knight who earned this nickname from the Muslims due to his eccentric apparel.

Some researchers have considered an association with Islamic tales. The figure of Al-Khidr (الخضر) in the Qur'an is called the "Green Man" as the only man to have drunk the water of life, which in some versions of the story turns him green. He tests Moses three times by doing seemingly evil acts, which are eventually revealed to be noble deeds to prevent greater evils or reveal great goods. Both the Arthurian Green Knight and Al-Khidr serve as teachers to holy men (Gawain/Moses), who thrice tested their faith and obedience. It has been suggested that the character of the Green Knight may be a literary descendant of Al-Khidr, brought to Europe with the Crusaders and blended with Celtic and Arthurian imagery.

Characters fulfilling similar roles
The beheading game appears in a number of tales, the earliest being the Middle Irish tale Bricriu's Feast. The challenger in this story is named "Fear", a bachlach (churl), and is identified as Cú Roí (a superhuman king of Munster in the Ulster Cycle of Irish mythology) in disguise. He challenges three warriors to his game, only to have them run from the return blow, until the hero Cú Chulainn accepts the challenge. With Cú Chulainn under his axe, this antagonist also feints three blows before letting the hero go. In the Irish version, the cloak of the churl is described as glas, which means green. In the Life of Caradoc, a Middle French narrative embedded in the anonymous First Continuation of Chrétien de Troyes' Perceval, the Story of the Grail, another similar challenge is issued. In this story, a notable difference is that Caradoc's challenger is his father in disguise, come to test his honour. The French romances La Mule sans frein and Hunbaut and the Middle High German epic poem Diu Crone feature Gawain in beheading game situations. Hunbaut furnishes an interesting twist: Gawain cuts off the man's head, and then pulls off his magic cloak before he can replace it, causing his death. A similar story, this time attributed to Lancelot, appears in the 13th century French work Perlesvaus.

The 15th-century The Turke and Gowin begins with a Turk entering Arthur's court and asking, "Is there any will, as a brother, To give a buffett and take another?" Gawain accepts the challenge, and is then forced to follow the Turk until he decides to return the blow. Through the many adventures they have together, the Turk, out of respect, asks the knight to cut off the Turk's head, which Gawain does. The Turk, surviving, then praises Gawain and showers him with gifts. Sir Gawain and the Carle of Carlisle contains a scene in which the Carl, a lord, orders Gawain to strike him with his spear, and bends over to receive the blow. Gawain obliges, the Carl rises, laughing and unharmed, and, unlike in Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, no return blow is demanded or given. Among all these stories, Sir Gawain and the Green Knight is the only one with a completely green character, and the only one tying Morgan le Fay to his transformation.

Several stories also feature knights struggling to stave off the advances of voluptuous women, including Yder, the Lancelot-Grail Cycle, Hunbaut, and The Knight of the Sword. The Green Knight parallel in these stories is a King testing a knight as to whether or not he will remain chaste in extreme circumstances. The woman he sends is sometimes his wife (as in Yder), if he knows that she is unfaithful and will tempt other men; in The Knight of the Sword the king sends his beautiful daughter. All characters playing the Green Knight's role kill unfaithful knights who fail their tests. Pwyll, in the First Branch of the Mabinogi, faces a similar chastity test.

Significance of the colour green

In English folklore and literature, green has traditionally been used to symbolise nature and its embodied attributes, namely those of fertility and rebirth. Critics have claimed that the Green Knight's role emphasises the environment outside of human habitation. With his alternate identity as Bertilak, the Green Knight can also be seen as a compromise between both humanity and the environment as opposed to Gawain's representation of human civilisation. Often, it is used to embody the supernatural or spiritual other world. In British folklore, the devil was sometimes considered to be green which may or may not play into the concept of the Green Man/ Wild Man dichotomy of the Green Knight. Stories of the medieval period also portray the colour as representing love and the amorous in life, and the base, natural desires of man. Green is also known to have signified witchcraft, devilry and evil for its association with the fairies and spirits of early English folklore and for its association with decay and toxicity. The colour, when combined with gold, is sometimes seen as representing the fading of youth. In the Celtic tradition, green was avoided in clothing for its superstitious association with misfortune and death. Green in Sir Gawain and the Green Knight is ambiguous as it could have a variety of meanings: signifying a transformation from good to evil and back again, or displaying both the spoiling and regenerative connotations of the colour.

Interpretations
Of the many characters similar to him, the Green Knight of Sir Gawain is the first to be green. Because of his strange colour, some scholars believe him to be a manifestation of the Green Man figure of medieval art, or as a representation of both the vitality and fearful unpredictability of nature. That he carries a green holly branch, and the comparison of his beard to a bush, has guided many scholars to this interpretation. The gold entwined in the cloth wrapped around his axe, combined with the green, gives him both a wild and an aristocratic air. Others consider him as being an incarnation of the Devil. In one interpretation, it is thought that the Green Knight, as the "Lord of Hades", has come to challenge the noble knights of King Arthur's court. Sir Gawain, the bravest of the knights, therefore proves himself equal to Hercules in challenging the Knight, tying the story to ancient Greek mythology. Scholars like Curely claim the descriptive features of the Green Knight suggest a servitude to Satan such as the beaver-hued beard alluding to the allegorical significance of beavers for the Christian audience of the time who believed that they renounced the world and paid "tribute to the devil for spiritual freedom." Another possible interpretation of the Green Knight views him as combining elements from the Greek Hades and the Christian Messiah, at once representing both good and evil and life and death as self-proliferating cycles. This interpretation embraces the positive and negative attributes of the colour green and relates to the enigmatic motif of the poem. The description of the Green Knight upon his entrance to Arthur's Court as "from neck to loin… strong and thickly made" is considered by some scholars as homoerotic.

C.S. Lewis declared the Green Knight "as vivid and concrete as any image in literature" and further described him as:

"a living coincidentia oppositorum; half giant, yet wholly a 'lovely' knight'; as full of demoniac energy as old Karamazov, yet in his own house, as jolly as a Dickensian Christmas host; now exhibiting a ferocity so gleeful that it is almost genial, and now a geniality so outrageous that it borders on the ferocious; half boy or buffoon in his shouts and laughter and jumpings; yet at the end judging Gawain with the tranquil superiority of an angelic being"

The Green Knight could also be interpreted as a blend of two traditional figures in romance and medieval narratives, namely, "the literary green man" and the "literary wild man." "The literary green man" signifies "youth, natural vitality, and love," whereas the "literary wild man" represents the "hostility to knighthood," "the demonic" and "death." The Knight's green skin connects the green of the costume to the green of the hair and beard, thus connecting the green man's pleasant manners and significance into the wild man's grotesque qualities.

Jack in the Green
The Green Knight is also compared to the English holiday figure Jack in the Green. Jack is part of a May Day holiday tradition in some parts of England, but his connection to the Knight is found mainly in the Derbyshire tradition of Castleton Garland. In this tradition, a kind of Jack in the green known as the Garland King is led through the town on a horse, wearing a bell-shaped garland of flowers that covers his entire upper body, and followed by young girls dressed in white, who dance at various points along the route (formerly the town's bellringers, who still make the garland, also performed this role). On the top of the King's garland is the "queen", a posy of bright flowers. The King is also accompanied by his elegantly dressed female consort (nowadays, confusingly, also known as the Queen); played by a woman during recent times, until 1956 "the Woman" was always a man in woman's clothing. At the end of the ceremony, the queen posy is taken off the garland, to be placed on the town's war memorial. The Garland King then rides to the church tower where the garland is hauled up the side of the tower and impaled upon a pinnacle. Due to the nature imagery associated with the Green Knight, the ceremony has been interpreted as possibly deriving from his famous beheading in the Gawain poem. In this case, the posy's removal would symbolise the loss of the knight's head.

Green Chapel
In the poem Gawain, when the Knight is beheaded, he tells Gawain to meet him at the Green Chapel, saying that all nearby know where it is. Indeed, the guide which is to bring Gawain there from Bertilak's castle grows very fearful as they near it and begs Gawain to turn back. The final meeting at the Green Chapel has caused many scholars to draw religious connections, with the Knight fulfilling a priestly role with Gawain as a penitent. The Green Knight ultimately, in this interpretation, judges Gawain to be a worthy knight, and lets him live, playing a priest, God, and judge all at once.

The chapel is considered by Gawain as an evil place: foreboding, "the most accursed church", "the place for the Devil to recite matins"; but when the mysterious Knight allows Gawain to live, Gawain immediately assumes the role of penitent to a priest or judge, as in a genuine church. The Green Chapel may also be related to tales of fairy hills or knolls of earlier Celtic literature. Some scholars have wondered whether "Hautdesert" refers to the Green Chapel, as it means "High Hermitage"; but such a connection is doubted by most scholars. As to the location of the chapel, in the Greene Knight poem, Sir Bredbeddle's living place is described as "the castle of hutton", causing some scholars to suggest a connection with Hutton Manor House in Somerset. Gawain's journey leads him directly into the centre of the Pearl Poet's dialect region, where the candidates for the locations of the Castle at Hautdesert and the Green Chapel stand. Hautdesert is thought to be in the area of Swythamley in northwest Midland, as it is in the writer's dialect area, and matches the land features described in the poem. The Green Chapel is thought to be in either Lud's Church or Wetton Mill, as these areas closely match the descriptions given by the author. Ralph Elliott for example located the chapel the knight searches for near ("two myle henne" v1078) the old manor house at Swythamley Park at the bottom of a valley ("bothm of the brem valay" v2145) on a hillside ("loke a littel on the launde, on thi lyfte honde" v2147) in a large fissure ("an olde caue,/or a creuisse of an olde cragge" v2182–83).

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Monkton Combe

Monkton Combe is a village and civil parish in north Somerset, England, 3 mi south of Bath. The parish, which includes the hamlet of Tucking Mill, had a population of 554 in 2013. It was formerly known as Combe, owing to its geography, while it was also known as Monckton Combe and Combe Monckton until last century.

History
The pre-Saxon history of Monkton Combe is poorly recorded. It lay close to the Roman road from Bath to London, which has prompted the construction of a Roman villa in Combe Down. More activity is noted in the sub-Roman period, when it formed the end of the western section of the protective Wansdyke, which had been designed to protect Somerset from Saxon invasion.

Combe was settled and cultivated by the Anglo-Saxon period, when it formed part of the hundred of Bath Forum.

It was probably given to Bath Abbey, along with other surrounding villages, in the early 1060's by either Edward the Confessor or Harold Godwinson. The Abbey had been impoverished, and Bishop Gisa made use of patronage to expand its lands. In 1086, Combe was assessed in the Domesday Book as having around twenty families, and supporting a range of agricultural activities. During the medieval period, it acquired the additional name 'Monkton', noting its ownership by the Abbey and disambiguating it from other nearby 'Combes'.

The village's industry diversified in the late 18th century, with the opening of local mines and the Somerset Coal Canal in 1800. This prompted the expansion of the village's population, and the construction of new housing to accommodate workers, built in the local Bath stone. The canal was converted to a railway in 1910, giving the village a short-lived railway station of its own. The closure of the line encouraged the further de-industrialisation of the village, with the neighbouring flock mill closing the following year, although not before the village, and its station, featured in the popular Ealing comedy The Titfield Thunderbolt.

Governance
The parish council has responsibility for local issues, including setting an annual precept (local rate) to cover the council’s operating costs and producing annual accounts for public scrutiny. The parish council evaluates local planning applications and works with the local police, district council officers, and neighbourhood watch groups on matters of crime, security, and traffic. The parish council's role also includes initiating projects for the maintenance and repair of parish facilities, such as the village car park and playgrounds, as well as consulting with the district council on the maintenance, repair, and improvement of highways, drainage, footpaths, public transport, and street cleaning. Conservation matters (including trees and listed buildings) and environmental issues are also of interest to the council. The Village Hall and Village Green are the responsibility of the Village Hall Committee and not of the Parish Council.

The parish falls within the unitary authority of Bath and North East Somerset, which was created in 1996, as established by the Local Government Act 1992. It provides a single tier of local government with responsibility for almost all local government functions within its area, including local planning and building control, local roads, council housing, environmental health, markets and fairs, refuse collection, recycling, cemeteries, crematoria, leisure services, parks, and tourism. It is also responsible for education, social services, libraries, main roads, public transport, Trading Standards, waste disposal, and strategic planning, although fire, police and ambulance services are provided jointly with other authorities through the Avon Fire and Rescue Service, Avon and Somerset Constabulary, and the Great Western Ambulance Service.

Bath and North East Somerset's area covers part of the ceremonial county of Somerset, but it is administered independently of the non-metropolitan county. Its administrative headquarters is in Bath. Between 1 April 1974, and 1 April 1996, it was the Wansdyke district and the City of Bath of the county of Avon. Before 1974 that the parish was part of the Bathavon Rural District.

The parish falls within the 'Bathavon South' electoral ward. The ward starts in the north east at Monkton Combe and stretches south west through Wellow to Shoscombe. The total population of this ward at the 2011 census was 3,052.

The parish is represented in the House of Commons of the Parliament of the United Kingdom as part of the North East Somerset constituency. It elects one Member of Parliament (MP) by the first past the post system of election.

Church
The parish church of St Michael, thought to have been Norman, was razed in the early 19th century and rebuilt in 1814. The 1814 church was soon found to be too small, and was rebuilt in 1865 at the initiative of the first Vicar of Monkton Combe, the Revd. Francis Pocock. It was designed by ecclesiastical architect C. E. Giles of London, and the builder was Mr. S. G. Mitchell. It was extended within just a few years to accommodate the growing number of pupils from nearby Monkton Combe School, founded by Revd. Pocock in 1868. The church is a Grade II listed building.

The churchyard contains the grave of Harry Patch, the last surviving British soldier who served in the First World War, and a handful of Commonwealth War Graves.

Landmarks
The village has one public house, the Wheelwright's Arms, which was built as a private house in the mid-late 18th century and later converted to an inn. It gained its name from the wheelwrighting business that worked from its yard until 1934.

A village lock-up in the 18th century, probably circa 1776, and is located conveniently near the Wheelwrights Arms. This is now one of the village's many Grade II listed buildings, and was last used in 1905 by errant pupils to lock up the school's unpopular bursar.

There were two mills from the time of the Domesday Book, which were rebuilt in the early 19th century and have survived to this day, although neither are in working order.

Monkton Combe School
Much of the village and the surrounding fields are owned and occupied by Monkton Combe School, including the majority of the historic houses along Church Lane. Monkton is a prominent public school which was founded in the village in 1868 by the first Vicar of Monkton Combe, the Revd Francis Pocock, and is today a member of the Rugby Group of major British independent schools.

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