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User talk:TintoRetto

Polish oppression
The polish Pans who civilized Ukraine and Belarus have more right to those articles than anybody else. Pan Space Cadet 18:18, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * It depends on how many Eastern Slavic serfs you have and oppress. IMHO Xenia got it right that I should leave the articles on Eastern Europe alone since I personally have only 35 serfs and oppress only half of them (not even every day, I admit...). Perhaps we could establish some wikipedia guideline or rule that would permit to edit an article related to Eastern Europe only if the wikipedian has a certain amount of serfs. Or even better, we could make it a point system: 1 point per every male serf abused, 2 points per every female serf abused, 1 point per every 10 serfs not abused (gender irrelevant here), plus 5 points per every latifundium in Ukraine, Belarus or Russia, 5 additional points for every Orthodox priest expelled from his or hers lands and so on. Whoever gets 100 points - is free to edit. Only true magnates should be allowed, the average Polish pans are not honourable enough.

 * A similar rule of thumb could be established for Eastern Slavs. They would be allowed to edit the articles on Central Europe. Points for manors looted, Byzantine ships sunk, lakh, zhyd or klekha killed (impaled, of course) or for every female taken captive. To make it easier for younger revolutionaries, we could establish a wiki commission that would check if the person is able to fly the Sacred Red Banner for, let's say, 1 hour. If so - 60 points granted. What do you say? Halibutt 20:37, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

 * You've got it all wrong boys. I'm certain dear Xenia was referring to me.  Due to a historic quirk of surname Romanization, she thought that this humble хохол had been left in charge of the livestock and serfs.  Let me tell you, that would have been a mistake.  —Michael Z.

 * Nyah, that would be totally absurd. Every child knows that we, the Polish pans, are very keen on oppression of Eastern Slavs and that in order to bleed a serf dry, we always place some foreigner, like a Jew or Armenian, in charge. Your name - whatever the romanisation system is used - is still too Slavic. After all nothing beats the fun of seing the poor serfs get angry at a Jew, who in turn gets angry at them. Divide et impera, there's no rule as devilish as that.

 * But seriously now, I was hoping that the demons of "White Polish pans" are long-dead. Apparently I was wrong... Halibutt 23:56, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

Join RWNB!
Hello, TintoRetto! I thought you might be interested in the Russian wikipedians' notice board. Come check it out! We could use more help! KNewman 19:50, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)

Requested_moves
TintoRetto, I once lost my temper over comments by Mikkalai, but he deserves to be respected for the huge body of valuable contributions he's made to Wikipedia. You on the other hand, are making yourself known for denigrating people and nations.

In discussions, just stick to facts that are supported in literature. Don't write about the participants; this is considered a personal attack. Don't address people by their ethnicity; this is considered prejudiced or racist. Don't indulge in name-calling. This kind of rhetoric waters down your argument, and discredits you and your side of the debate.

—Michael Z. 17:48, 2004 Dec 29 (UTC)

The language and your recent move
Dear TintoRetto, while I do not oppose the transfer of Old Ruthenian language to Old East Slavic language, and especially so since both terms seem to be correct, acceptable and compromise, it would definitely not hurt if you proposed such a move on the respective talk page.

Don't get me wrong, but moving the article the day after the proposal of transfer was not accepted by a wiki voting gives a bad impression. Halibutt 16:02, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)

Ivangorod
Thanks for all your help over at the article. The picture really spruces the article up. AmishCellPhone 23:30, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Gontcharova/Larionov/Serebryakova compyright
They are works  of Russian painters, exponated in Russian galleries and published in Russian and Soviet catalogs, most of them are from Russian museums. Soviet Union (and Russia) jointed copyright convention quite late, thus all the works exponated before 1973 are Public Domain ouside fSU. Thus, the label:. abakharev 09:33, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:Skrewler

Cocaine Withdrawal
Welcome.

I just thought it made more sense to use a drug like alcohol where the pattern of tolerance is well established. Things are not so clear with cocaine. A discussion of tolerance with cocaine use seems more suited to the cocaine page where the relevant research can be discussed. As you said, there are many drugs that make good examples, benzodiazepines for example. Anyways, those are just my opinions. You are, of course, encouraged to edit the page and improve it.

Enjoy you're time here! Osmodiar 07:32, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I just disagreed with your statement that tolerance did not develop with cocaine.  I made another response that there should be some definitions of these terms (dependence, addiction, physical, psychological, tolerance), as their meanings seem to vary widely.  I haven't wanted to make too many major edits to pages as I think other people are much better writers than I, I'd rather just talk in the discussions for those pages.--Skrewler 21:57, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

AFD on List of sexual slang
Skrewler, you countered an argument nobody's made. I didn't nominate the list because of what sort of slang it's a list of, I nominated it because it's 1)a list, and 2)of slang. Could be List of slang terms for incredibly tasteful or appropriate things, and I'd be just as adamant about deleting it. The Literate Engineer 00:27, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Huh?
I'm confused. Trollaxor is "notable and encyclopedic" while a whole bunch of other personal websites are not? How do you figure? Friday (talk) 19:27, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

War on Blogcrap
Just want you to know your efforts are appreciated. Reyk 01:34, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

AFD Moves
Hello,

Among the many recent AFD nominations that you've put up, they've been several that are renominations (ie. the articles in question had been AFD'd before). I've noticed that you've moved several original AFDs to a new page (usually of the form WP:AFD/Article2), and placed the new nomination in the original page. May I ask why you're doing this? The customary Wikipedia practice when renominating an article for deletion is to open the new nom at a new page, usually of the form WP:AFD/Article (2nd nomination). This way the chronology of nominations is immediately apparent to users, both now and in future. I hope you will observe this practice henceforth.

If the problem is that you're unsure how to make an AFD renomination, simply do the following: Kind regards encephalon  04:10, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Refer to Articles_for_deletion for the basic method
 * 2) In step 2, in place of PageName write   (where Name of Article is the title of the page you're renominating) I'm sorry, that's wrong; can't imagine why I wrote that. In step 1, use AfDx instead. For example, if it's the 2nd nomination, write 2nd . Then follow steps 2 and 3 in the usual way.

blogshite
Hey - some people get really worked up over things, don't they? Your hijinx have made a few people have absolute COWS. If you're interested in a longer-term answer to blog/pod/etc flotsam and jetsam, please check out the ongoing discussions at WP:WEB. Cheers, brenneman (t) (c)  05:21, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Trollaxor
Hi there - you voted to keep Trollaxor, and there was no concensus to delete, so you may be interested in what is going on on that page. Yours, Trollderella 22:05, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

AFD
Can I ask that you stop nominating everything blog-related for deletion, and focus only on the entries that do not add to the general body of knowledge? Thanks. Hipocrite - « Talk » 14:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Trollaxor deletion review
Hi there - you voted to keep Trollaxor, and there was no concensus to delete, so you may be interested in what is going on here. Yours, Trollderella 21:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Sexual Slang confrontation
Even though the AfD vote was to keep, the vandals User:The Literate Engineer and User:Voice of All(MTG) deleted it anyways (though it was still in the history). I've written a long letter pointing out their bogus plan, revealing them for the frauds they are. I've taken the bold move of reverting the list to BEFORE they started their hack job on it (Nov 15). If you want that list retained, you better get over there and help with the reversion war that is likely to result. I can't do it alone. Bend over 17:11, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

St. Blog's Parish
I wish I had seen your nomination to delete so I could have responded. But even though what's done is done, let me assure you this was not a vanity posting, nor an advertisement. St. Blog's Parish grew organically as Catholic bloggers started growing in numbers, and eventually became a small community. It is small, sure, but it is unique and has meaning to those in it, and most likely for the others who may have found it in Wikipedia. It also continues to grow, both in members and in numbers of aggregate readership. That was an unfortunate call. No hard feelings, just disagreement.

Dave Walker 22:08, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Nice to see you back
On my list <3 --timecop 09:24, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Accusations
When making accusations against another editor as you did here it is very important to provide evidence. Simply stating something is obvious does not make it so. Without some sort of reasoning behind the statement that the admin blocked a user due to racial profiling then that statement could be seen as uncivil. Permanent blocks are difficult situations and while you are welcome to contest them, please ask for someone's reasoning before making assumptions on those reasonings. Accusations of racism can be particularly rude. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 18:51, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Civility
Using term such as wikipedos as you did here is a blatant violation of WP:CIVILITY, which is not a guideline but a policy. You have been uncivil in the past, and have already been warned. If you are uncivil again, you will be blocked for period of time. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 19:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding 1939
You said ''1939 = WWII. Go easy on the pipe.''

Just like to clear a few things up. I know when WWII started, I just don't see how it is in anyway related to the converstation at hand, which is why I asked Haizum what he meant. Why do you think WWII has anything to do with Timecop's block?

As for me going easy on the pipe, I don't use a pipe. Can I ask how that is relevent to Timecop's block? HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 16:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Personal crusade
Can you please describe why you think my actions toward Timecop constitute a temper tantrum or a Personal crusde as you said here?

You say much about me and other admins but it would be alot better if you explained what you meant. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 15:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Afd
Hey, how's it going, I noticed that you just changed to "delete" on the Sigma Alpha Mu debate. Don't you think this frat is obviously notable? Look at google, there's one on a lot of campuses. Sure, the article sucks, but this is the poorest of reasons to advocate for deletion, as anyone can improve it. --Tractorkingsfan 10:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

All frats, no. This frat, with chapters at so many major universities, yes. I don't think precedent is really the issue, so much as notability, which can be decided on a frat by frat basis. I just fail to see why it can't be improved. I guess I should just work on it myself (but I'm tired as hell right now). Cheers, --Tractorkingsfan 11:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey what's up, I noticed you deleted the history paragraph. I did the exact same thing and agree that it is essentially worthless, probably a major reason people want to delete the article. Just to let you know, though, User:Cfred reverted my attempt to delete it, so he may do the same again. He thinks it can be edited into shape; I have my doubts, but respected his decision. Maybe the three of us will end up having to try and work it into shape together. Cheers, --Tractorkingsfan 05:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

AfD Progressive Bloggers
You have edited the article Progressive Bloggers. This article is currently being considered for deletion under the wp:afd process. You may contribute to this discussion by commenting here. Thank you.Edivorce 23:12, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Quadratic (Position)
A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Quadratic (Position), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process  because of the following concern:
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October 2009
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war  according to the reverts you have made on Benzodiazepine drug misuse. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Literature geek |  T@1k?  22:27, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. You will be blocked from editing the next time you vandalize a page, as you did with this edit to Benzodiazepine drug misuse. ������������������ talk 22:27, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Please refrain from repeatedly undoing other people's edits. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. The three-revert rule (3RR) prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, please discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 22:28, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

For your information user Skrewler, I made 2 reverts, my so called 3rd revert was me just making a mistake by reverting to the wrong reversion as explained in the edit summary.-- Literature geek |  T@1k?  22:29, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case
You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Sockpuppet investigations/Paul gene for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 22:42, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Adam Gontier deletion
First off, to mark your edit on Adam Gontier as minor when you are actually proposing the article for deletion is both sneaky and under-handed. That is all I will remark on that. Nonetheless, is your reasoning for the lack of notability due to the fact that he alone is not notable and only the band is? As for the sources, there are multiple and reliable third-party sources which contain information and/or interviws on Adam Gontier. I just haven't had the oppurtunity to overhaul that article yet. Daniel Musto (talk) 16:12, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

 * Daniel Musto (talk) 17:51, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Hello
I have removed the tags on your account regarding sockpuppets as after investigation it was shown that my suspicions regarding your account to be incorrect. I apologise for any upset this may have caused you.-- Literature geek |  T@1k?  08:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Your recent edits
Can you please explain your large-scale removal of stuff from various pages for various reasons (POV, source reliability, etc)? J u n k c o p s (want to talk?|my log) 17:07, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, nevermind. Since you've participating at the Octoshape AFD, this is now unncessary. Ignore my post above. J u n k c o p s (want to talk?|my log) 15:03, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

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User talk:Gantry

Re:Sport Wrestling
I am not going to disagree with you on that. but wikipedia has made amateur wrestling on the site into sport wrestling. Personally, i'd prefer it to be amateur, but i was just sticking with what the article called it to avoid confussion. ZeWrestler 3:15 march 16, 2005 (UTC)

 * That makes sense... Maybe when we get further along I'll go ahead and convert it all to amateur wrestling.  For now, there are bigger fish to fry - actually getting some decent wrestling content on here.  Gantry 03:15, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Very true. We really need to get a lot more information on here.  One thing we should eventually do an artical on is Real Pro Wrestling.  That's hopefully going to bring some attention ourway.  ZeWrestler 3:33 march 16, 2005 (UTC)

 * Agreed, a RPW article should be up before the show airs. I'll put that on the todo list, but have a few things i want to get going for now.  Going to add stubs for all the D1 champs this year, should be done later tonight.  Then want to make good pages for all the 3-time champs.  My focus will mostly be collegiate, as that is what I know best.  Gantry 03:42, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * great to hear that someone else besides me is actually putting a good amount of time in to wrestling. =) i look forward to reading the articals, and contributing to them.  (also glad someone else will add the stubs to this years winners)ZeWrestler 3:50 march 16, 2005 (UTC)

 * Likewise my friend. Be sure and watch the sport wrestler and sport wrestler stub pages, I'll add all my work to one or both of those pages.  Just finished Teyon Ware, Espo coming up Gantry 03:56, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Real Pro Wrestling
An artical has been created for Real Pro Wrestling. I added some information to it, but it needs a lot more work, see if you can add anything to it. .--ZeWrestler 6:43 31 March 2005

Collaboration of the week for Dan Gable
Hello,

I have nominated the artical on Dan Gable for the calaboration of the week. But the artical needs as much support as possible. This will be a tough one that has potential to become a collaborated artical with help of people like you. Please place your vote at the collaboration of the week artical under the Dan Gable Section. Thank you very much for your help. ZeWrestler 17:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Biography Collaboration of the week
Gable on BCOTW Check it out. A new collaboration of the week has started, and I nominated Dan Gable for it. If you could support this artical, we could possible see a lot of work done to it soon. --ZeWrestler 02:14, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Chris Pendleton
I was going through some of my older edits and I noticed that I'd nominated this article for deletion in the past Votes for deletion/Chris Pendleton. Since it's seen no real editing activity recently and it was voted to merge (although no one bothered merging it), I was considering renominating it. I saw you had interest in this article, so I wanted to ask: Is there a wikiproject on wrestling that can give this article some love and attention (or merge it someplace where it will be given love and attention?) --Gmaxwell 04:01, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Steve Mocco
Hi, thanks for cleaning up/adding info on my edit to Steve Mocco's page. I have a photograph that I myself took and would like to add to his page. What is your advice on this? 139.78.10.144 11:20, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Future wrestling articles
It looks like you want to start an article about Schlatter. He's definitely noteworthy, but I think it might be better to hold off and see how he does at nationals so that there's a solid year of achievement to write about (though the Schlatter/Nickerson/Metcalf recruiting race could be an interesting article in and out of itself). On that same note, I'm probably going to write a Nickerson article after nationals, and a Beast of the East article when I feel like it. Anything you're thinking of putting up in the near future? Cejudo probably deserves his own, but I don't know anything about the international freestyle scene, so I wouldn't be the best person to do that... Stilgar135 00:59, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * ah, looks like Cejudo does have an article. It sucks. Argh. Stilgar135 01:17, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

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Name change
I changed the section called 'Pairs game' to 'Matchpoint pairs game.' There are also "IMP pairs games," of course.

A logical sequence
Can we create a sequence here? There are thousands of "duplicate bridge clubs" but I don't have any immediate statistics. But I'm trying to say the most commonly played duplicate bridge undoubtedly happens at the many bridge clubs which meet. If we present the most common first I think the article will have more value to the reader. Yes, there are more stringent things that happen for national and international tournaments, but clubs don't normally use screens and clubs don't normally use specialized scoring techniques. Can we write the article so that which is most common is presented first? I think it will have lots more value to the reader. If there is no objection, I'll rearrange the article so the most common met duplicate play is stated early in the article. Terryeo 00:14, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

ACBL member countries
I corrected the number of ACBL member countries to four: U.S., Canada, Mexico and Bermuda.

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 * See Burmuda where it is stated: "Bermuda is not classified as a country but rather as a territory of the U.K." Newwhist (talk) 02:41, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

 * Is any country, whatever that may be, a member of the ACBL? --P64 (talk) 20:16, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Ben Cohen
Why is Mr. Cohen described as an originator of this type of bridge? Review of the stub on him does not mention this activity. Perhaps further historical research is needed.

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Karl von Holtei

Karl Eduard von Holtei (24 January 1798 – 12 February 1880) was a German poet and actor.

Life and career
Karl Eduard von Holtei was born at Breslau, the son of an officer of Hussars. Having served in the Prussian army as a volunteer in 1815, he shortly afterwards entered the University of Breslau as a student of law; but, attracted by the stage, he soon forsook academic life and made his debut in the Breslau theatre as Mortimer in Schiller's Maria Stuart. He led a wandering life for the next two years, appearing less on the stage as an actor than as a reciter of his own poems. In 1821 he married the actress Luise Roge (1800-1825), and was appointed theatre-poet to the Breslau stage. He next removed to Berlin, where his wife fulfilled an engagement at the Court theatre. During his sojourn here he produced the vaudevilles Die Wiener in Berlin (1824), and Die Berliner in Wien (1825), pieces which enjoyed at the time great popular favour.

In 1825 his wife died; but soon after her death he accepted an engagement at the Königsstädter theatre in Berlin, when he wrote a number of plays, notably Lenore (1828), based on Gottfried August Bürger's ballad, and Der alte Feldherr (1825). In 1830 he married Julie Holzbecher (1809-1839), an actress engaged at the same theatre, and with her played in Darmstadt. Returning to Berlin in 1831 he wrote for the composer Franz Gläser (1798-1861) the text of the opera Des Adlers Horst (1832), and for Ludwig Devrient the drama, Der dumme Peter (1837).

In 1833 Holtei again went on the stage and toured with his wife to various important cities, Hamburg, Leipzig, Dresden, Munich and Vienna. In the last his declamatory powers as a reciter, particularly of Shakespeare's plays, made a furore, and the poet-actor was given the appointment of manager of the Josefstädter theatre in the last-named city. Though proud of his successes both as actor and reciter, Holtei left Vienna in 1836, and from 1837 to 1839 conducted the theatre in Riga. Here his second wife died, and after wandering through Germany reciting and accepting a short engagement at Breslau, he settled in 1847 at Graz, where he devoted himself to a literary life and produced the novels Die Vagabunden (1851), Christian Lammfell (1853) and Der letzte Komödiant (1863). The last years of his life were spent at Breslau, where being in poor circumstances he found a home in the Kloster der Barmherzigen Brüder, and here he died.

As a dramatist Holtei may be said to have introduced the vaudeville into Germany; as an actor, although remaining behind the greater artists of his time, he contrived to fascinate his audience by the dramatic force of his exposition of character as a reciter, especially of Shakespeare, he knew no rival. August Lewald said of Holtei that by the energy of his poetic conception and plastic force he brought his audience round to his own ideas; and he added, "an eloquence such as his I have never met with in any other German."

Holtei was not only a stage-poet but, a lyric-writer of great charm. Notable among such productions are Schlesische Gedichte (1830; 20th ed., 1893), Gedichte (5th ed., 1861), Stimmen des Waldes (2nd ed., 1854). Mention ought also to be made of Holtei's interesting autobiography, Vierzig Jahre (8 vols., 1843-1850; 3rd ed., 1862) with the supplementary volume Noch ein Jahr in Schlesien (1864).

Holtei's Theater appeared in 6 vols. (1867); his Erzählende Schriften, 39 vols. (1861-1866). See M. Kurnick, Karl von Holtei, ein Lebensbild (1880); F. Wohl, Zeit und Menschen (1889); O. Storch, K. von Holtei (1898).

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Only You (And You Alone)

"Only You (And You Alone)" (often shortened to "Only You") is a pop song composed by Buck Ram. It was originally recorded by The Platters with lead vocals by Tony Williams in 1955.

The Platters versions
The Platters first recorded the song for Federal Records on May 20, 1954, but the recording was not released. In 1955, after moving to Mercury Records, the band re-recorded the song (on April 26) and it scored a major hit when it was released in May. In November that year, Federal Records released the original recording as a single (B-side - "You Made Me Cry") which sold poorly. Platters bass singer Herb Reed later recalled how the group hit upon its successful version: "We tried it so many times, and it was terrible. One time we were rehearsing in the car... and the car jerked. Tony went 'O-oHHHH-nly you.' We laughed at first, but when he sang that song—that was the sign we had hit on something." According to Buck Ram, Tony Williams' voice "broke" in rehearsal, but they decided to keep this effect in the recording. This was the only Platters recording on which songwriter and manager Ram played the piano.

The song held strong in the number 1 position on the U.S. R & B charts for seven weeks, and hit number five on the Billboard Top 100 chart. It remained on the charts for 30 weeks, beating out a rival cover version by The Hilltoppers. When the Platters track, "The Great Pretender" (which eventually surpassed the success of "Only You"), was released in the UK as Europe's first introduction to The Platters, "Only You" was included on the flipside. In the 1956 film Rock Around the Clock, The Platters participated with both songs, "Only You" and "The Great Pretender".

The Platters re-recorded a slightly longer version of the song for Musicor Records in 1966, which features on the album I Love You 1,000 Times (MM 2091).

In 1999, the 1955 recording of "Only You (And You Alone)" by The Platters on Mercury Records was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame.

The Hilltoppers version
The Hilltoppers released their version of the song as a Dot Records single in 1955. It reached number 8 on the Billboard Hot 100 and number 3 in the UK.

Franck Pourcel version
An instrumental version by Franck Pourcel was a hit single in 1959, and sold more than 5 million copies. Pourcel's version spent 16 weeks on the Billboard Hot 100, reaching number 9, while reaching number 3 on Canada's CHUM Hit Parade, and number 18 on Billboard's Hot R&B Sides.

Ringo Starr version
In 1974, Ringo Starr covered this song for his album Goodnight Vienna at the suggestion of John Lennon. This version was released as a single (b/w "Call Me") on 11 November in the US, and it became a number six hit on the US Billboard best seller chart and reached number one on the Easy Listening chart in early 1975. It was released in the UK on 15 November. Lennon plays acoustic guitar on the track, and recorded a guide vocal which was kept by producer Richard Perry. Harry Nilsson sings harmony vocals and appears with Starr in the amusing music video filmed on top of the Capitol Records Building in Los Angeles. Lennon's vocal version appears on his Anthology box set, in 1998.

Other cover versions

 * A version was recorded in 1956 by the Welsh singer Malcolm Vaughan.
 * Travis Tritt released his version of the song as a single in January of 1996, where it peaked at #52 on the Hot Country Songs Chart and #28 on the Canadian RPM Country Tracks Chart. It was Tritts first single to miss the Top 40 on the Hot Country Songs Chart.
 * Carl Perkins recorded the song in 1957, on his "Dance Album" record.
 * Brenda Lee covered the song on her 1962 album Sincerely, Brenda Lee. When released as a single in Belgium, Lee's version reached number 3 in Flanders and number 44 in Wallonia.
 * In 1963, Mr. Acker Bilk recorded the song as an instrumental number, which reached number 77 (U.S.).
 * Little Richard recorded the song in 1964 for his album Little Richard Is Back (And There's a Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On!).
 * Roy Orbison recorded the song in 1969 for the 1970 album The Big O with "The Art Movement"
 * Bobby Hatfield of the Righteous Brothers released a version in 1969, which reached number 95 on the Billboard Hot 100.
 * English singer Jeff Collins from Enfield recorded the song in 1972. It was popular in Europe, and rose to number 40 in the UK charts, charting for eight weeks.
 * In 1973, the singer Stein Ingebrigtsen had a number one hit on Norway's VG-lista with a Norwegian version of the song, entitled "Bare du". The lyrics were written by the record producer Arve Sigvaldsen. A Swedish version of the song, "Bara du", also recorded by Ingebrigtsen, became popular in that country. Ingebrigtsen also recorded a German version entitled "So wie du" with lyrics written by Ralph-Maria Siegel.
 * Somewhere in 1973, John Lennon did a demo version for his partner and friend Ringo Starr to be recorded by him for his next solo album, the song can be heard on Lennon's 1990 Wonsaponatime album.
 * The pop band Child released the song as a single in 1979, reaching number 33 in the UK Charts.
 * Reba McEntire had a #13 hit on the U.S. Country music charts with her cover on her 1981 album Heart to Heart.
 * The Statler Brothers covered the song on their 1986 album Four for the Show. Their version was released as a single and peaked at #36 on the Billboard Hot Country Singles chart. A music video was made for the song and was shot at Opryland USA.
 * John Alford recorded the song as a double-A side with "Blue Moon" in 1996, which reached number 9 in the UK charts.

Influence and usage in popular culture

 * Dallara, the first Italian shouter (in Italian: urlatore), and his music were influenced by the triplet pattern (in Italian: stile terzinato) that had been introduced in Italy by the Platters in "Only You", and can be heard in their songs such as "Come prima".
 * The song appears at the end of the 1973 film American Graffiti.
 * The song is parodied in the film A Chinese Odyssey (1995), sung by Law Kar-ying and its lyrics rewritten by Jeffrey Lau.
 * The song is featured in the 2018 video game Far Cry 5. It is used as a form of classical conditioning on the main character by one of the villains, Jacob Seed. The song can also be heard on one of the in-game radio stations and quietly echoing through the woods in some locations.
 * The song appears in the seventh episode of the 2024 television series Fallout, based on the role-playing video game franchise of the same name.
 * The song will be featured in the 2024 film Deadpool & Wolverine.

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Transport in Bucharest

Bucharest has the largest transport network in Romania, and one of the largest in Europe. The Bucharest transport network is made up of a subway network and a ground transport network. Although there are multiple connection points, the two systems operate independently of each other, and are run by different organisations (the subway is run by Metrorex and the ground transport network by Societatea de Transport București. The two companies used separate ticketing systems until 2021, when a new smartcard was introduced alongside the old tickets, which allows travel on both the STB and the Underground.

Bucharest Subway
Bucharest has a fairly extensive subway system consisting of five lines (M1, M2, M3, M4, and M5) ran by Metrorex. In total, the network is 80.1 km long and has 64 stations, with 1.5 km average distance between stops. It is one of the fastest ways to get around the city. The oldest metro line is M1, which was opened in 1979. The newest metro line is M5, which was opened in 2020. A sixth metro line, M6 line, is currently under construction.

Ground transport
Ground transport in Bucharest is run by Societatea de Transport București (STB) and consists of an extensive network of buses, trolleybuses, trams and light rail. The STB network is one of the densest in Europe, and the fourth largest on the continent, carrying about 1.7 million passengers daily on 85 bus lines, 23 tram lines, 2 light rail lines and 15 trolleybus lines. At times, however, it suffers from severe overcrowding.

STB is a reasonably efficient and a very frequently-used way of getting around Bucharest. As with the subway, the system is undergoing a period of renewal. Some new features are the upgrade of tram/trolleybus infrastructure and the replacement of old rolling stock.

Buses
With a total route length of 1374 km, the STB bus network is the densest of all the transport types in Bucharest. There are 85 bus lines (plus 25 night routes) operating mostly in the municipality of Bucharest, as well as 27 bus lines serving commuters from surrounding towns and villages in Ilfov County. In mid-2005, the lines that linked the city to the peripheral area were licensed out to independent transportation providers, but in early 2006, they were returned to STB control due to a wide range customer complaints about the private operators. Sometime in 2010, all the STB lines of the peripheral network were removed, leading to an increase in minivans owned by private transport companies, and so far only a few of these lines have been put back.

Fleet
STB's bus fleet is made up of 1,143 vehicles (2018), which are all wheelchair-accessible (low floor) and around 55% are air-conditioned. The fleet utilisation rate during workdays stood at 78.1% in 2018.

Between 2005 and 2009, the fleet underwent its most substantial renewal since 1989, and is now among the most modern in Europe. In December 2005, STB signed a contract for 500 Mercedes Citaro low-floor, wheelchair-accessible buses. The buses were delivered between June 2006 and April 2007. In January 2008, the first of a further series of 500 Citaro low-floor buses were put into service.

The fleet makeup, as of 2019, is as follows, with years of delivery shown in brackets:

Central Lines are usually populated by Otokar and Hybrid buses, while lines connecting rezidential areas tend to use the older Citaro models.

Trolleybuses
Trolleybuses supplement buses on the STB system network, which operates 15 trolleybus lines (mainly on high-usage routes), measuring 164.1 km of routes on 73.2 km network. During the 1990s, the fleet was updated with modern trolleybuses manufactured by Ikarus, in light blue and yellow livery, which have acoustic station announcements and digital display screens. These trolleybuses now make up the majority of the fleet. In early 2007, 100 wheelchair-accessible Irisbus Citelis trolleybuses were introduced on routes 61, 62, 69, 70, 86, 90, 91, and 92.

Two distinct, non-interconnected networks exist in Bucharest, the main network (comprising the two main east–west lines as well as a spur in the northern part of town) and a relatively small southern network in Berceni. Each of the networks has its own, separate trolleybus depots (including separate fleets) and is not connected to the other in any way, in 1987 being separated after the opening of M2 subway line. The trolleybus network is currently being overhauled or expanded — a goal is to eventually unite the two networks.

Fleet
In 2022, the STB had a fleet of 265 trolleybuses spread across 3 depots and 1 mixed tram-trolleybus depot. Most of them were Astra-Ikarus 415T (163 trolleybuses). The fleet utilisation rate during workdays stood at 67.66% in 2022. In 2024, the STB started receiving 100 Solaris Trollino trolleybuses.

Trams and light rail
STB operates a complex system of trams measuring 332.2 km of routes on 143.9 km of lines throughout Bucharest. Beside 23 tram lines, there are two converted light rail lines called metrou uşor ("light metro"), numbered 41 and 32, which serve the western and south-western parts of Bucharest. Both use upgraded trams running on separate designated corridors for faster travel times.

67% of the city's tram infrastructure had been modernised by 2018. The light rail service is expected to be expanded by upgrading existing tram lines to light rail status.

Most trams operated by STB (all V3A, Bucur 1 and Bucur LF models) are manufactured internally by STB at their subsidiary URAC Bucharest (the same subsidiary also handles tramway repairs and is in charge of scrapping vehicles reaching the end of their useful life). Currently, URAC produces three models for STB – two three-section, partially low-floor, wheelchair-accessible models (V3A-CH-PPC/CA-PPC derived from the earlier V3A-93 model and the all-new Bucur-LF model) as well as a two-section, non-wheelchair-accessible model (Bucur 1), made from scrapped Tatra axles with new equipment. It is uncertain if their production will continue, because as of now their production has been halted for the past 7 years.

Routes 1, 10, 21, 25, 32, 41 are wheelchair-accessible, using new V3A-93-M2000-PPC, V3A-CH-PPC and Bucur LF trams. Lines 3, 7, 8, 19, 23, 24, 27, 45 are also wheel chair accessible when V3A-93 PPC (3, 7, 19, 24, 45 - number is limited to 4 vehicles, 008, 164, 181 and 206 can be seen on these routes occasionally, the first two (008 and 164) mainly on routes 3, 24, 45 and the following two (181 and 206) on routes 7 and/or 19) or CA/CH-PPC are sent on these routes ( the latter mainly 8, 23 and 27 from Alexandria on 8 and Dudesti 23/27). Other routes (if most) will become wheelchair-accessible as soon as more V3A-CH-PPC or Bucur-LF vehicles are constructed (URAC's building and modernising capacity is limited).

The maximum speed of trams in Bucharest is 60 km/h.

Fleet
In 2018, the STB had a fleet of 486 trams, most of which were the V3A-M type (323 trams). The fleet is spread across 7 tram depots and 1 mixed tram-trolleybus depot. The fleet utilisation rate during workdays stood at 55.6% in 2018. In December 2022, the first 15 Astra Imperio Metropolitan trams (out of a total order of 100 units) were put into circulation.

Tickets
Ground transportation, operated by STB uses a different ticketing system from the subway network, operated by Metrorex, a separate entity. Their tickets and prices can be found on their website, available in English as well. http://www.stbsa.ro/

They include subscriptions, rechargeable cards as well as single use cards. A simple metropolitan ticket valid on all ground lines for 90 minutes costs 3 RON and can be activated by tapping either a STB transit card or a contactless bank card on the ticket machines present inside all vehicles. Tickets can also be bought through SMS by sending a message to 7458, with the message "C", you will be charged 0.65 EUR + VAT. You can also purchase a 24-hour pass for 8 RON at any kiosk or by sending the message "AB" to the same number, costing you 1.5 EUR + VAT.

This method of SMS-based payment is also available through the app, InfoTB. The app can also plan routes using all types of transportation in the city, and show the GPS location of vehicles. Approximately 85% of vehicles are equipped with a GPS positioning system.

A separate app, 24Pay, can be used to pay for fares using a credit card.

An online account can also be created on the website, that allows clients to add credit to their STB cards.

BCR (Romanian Commercial Bank) ATMs also allow clients to recharge their physical cards with money.

Metrorex and STB have integrated tickets and passes, information which is available on their websites, but also on the Bucharest Metro page. An integrated fare costs 5 RON and can be used simultaneously on both ground lines and the subway, with a time limit of 120 minutes.

The Bucharest Subway uses a per-entry constant fare system, every entry costing 3 RON, regardless of stations travelled, time spent or zones used, changing lines doesn't require additional pay and is free, the only exception is Gara De Nord, where the 2 corresponding stations are separate and thus you are required to exit the system and pay again at the other station to transfer lines, tho free transfers from the M1 to the M4 can be done at the neighbouring Basarb station.

Passengers can purchase paper tickets loaded with 1, 2 or 10 fares or simply tap their contactless bank cards at the turnstiles, which will charge them 3 RON. Rechargeable contactless subway cards can also be issued and loaded with passes available for either a day, a week, a month or a year. The most commonly used pass is the 1 month pass priced at 80 RON.

Personal cars
At the end of 2008, in Bucharest there were 1.24 million vehicles, of which 985.000 were personal cars. In 2007 there were 150.000 fewer vehicles, which means the number of vehicles increased by 13.76% in one year.

With so many cars and a very high population density (50% higher than Tokyo and 4 times bigger than Rome for example), parking is a problem in Bucharest.

CFR Trains
In 2011, Bucharest had 99 km of railway lines, 79 of which were electric.

Bucharest has several train stations throughout and around the city, the main one being Gara de Nord where trains depart to all destinations. Other main stations include Baneasa, Obor and Basarab.

Gara de Nord is a relatively modern station. It was opened in 1872 and has undergone modernization and refurbishment several times. From here, trains leave to every destination in Romania and to other European cities. The other stations only see around five trains a day and are not considered "important" stations by CFR.

Bucharest was once home to a vast system of industrial railways that sprawled all over the city, linking factories to the surrounding neighbourhoods and towns. However most of these are now gone and what remains has fallen into disrepair. Therefore, Bucharest didn't have an RER/S-Bahn type of commuter network until 2019 when CFR introduced commuter trains between the city and Buftea. Attempts have been made in the past to introduce such a system, but so far not much has been achieved. It is true that there are trains operated by CFR from Bucharest to neighbouring towns, however due to long journey times and poor rolling stock most people tend to use personal cars to get into the city.

Road network
The city's municipal road network is centred on a series of high-capacity boulevards (6 to 10 lanes), which generally radiate out from the city centre to the outskirts and are arranged in geographical axes (principally north–south, east–west and northwest–southeast). The principal and thus most congested boulevards are Calea Victoriei, Bulevardul Unirii and Șoseaua Mihai Bravu, which is the longest in Bucharest and forms a sort of semicircle around the northeastern part of the old district. The city also has two ring roads, one internal (Mihai Bravu is part of it) and one external, which are mainly used for cars that bypass the city as well as trucks, which aren't allowed in the city centre, Works on a third ring road (the A0), which would be mainly used for transit and freight traffic around the city, began in 2020 on some segments. Aside from the main roads, the city also has a number of secondary roads, which connect the main boulevards. In the historical city centre, particularly the Lipscani area, many streets are cobbled and are classified as pedestrian zones.

The city's roads are usually very crowded during rush hours, due to an increase in car ownership in recent years. Every day, there are more than one million vehicles travelling within the city limits. This has resulted in wearing of the upper layer of tarmac on many of roads in Bucharest, particularly secondary roads which are now used in an equal amount, this being identified as one of Bucharest's main infrastructural problems. The pothole problem is notorious enough to have inspired a song by the band Taxi with a chorus "Cratere ca-n București, nici pe luna nu gaseşti!" ("Craters like in Bucharest you won't even find on the moon"). However, in recent years, there has been a comprehensive effort on behalf of the City Hall to boost improvement of road infrastructure, mainly by resurfacing and widening roads, and repairing footpaths. Faulty urban planning will likely lead to an increase in traffic and parking problems, since new housing areas are built with houses and apartment buildings literally squeezed into existing small grid roads, a problem commonly identified in the "suburbs" of the city.

Bucharest is one of the principal junctions of Romania's national road network, which links the city to all of Romania's major cities as well as to neighbouring countries such as Hungary, Bulgaria and Ukraine. Furthermore, the city is the starting point of the A1 motorway, towards Pitești, the A2, linking the capital with the country's ports and seaside resorts on the Black Sea and the A3, towards Ploiești.

Airports
Bucharest has one international airport: Until 2012 there was also another airport which is no longer used, except for charter/private flights:
 * Henri Coandă International Airport, located north of the Bucharest metropolitan area, in the town of Otopeni, Ilfov. Currently the airport has one terminal divided into three inter-connected buildings (International Departures Hall, International Arrivals Hall and the Domestic Flights Hall – at the ground level of the Arrivals Hall). The International Departures Hall consists of 36 check-in desks, one finger with 10 gates (5 equipped with jetways), while the Domestic Hall has an extra four gates. Today's International Arrivals Hall is the old Otopeni terminal, while the new Departures Hall, including the finger and the airbridges was built and inaugurated in 1997. A second finger with 7 jetways is under construction and a new building terminal on the east side is in project phase. The airport received 8,317,168 passengers in 2015. It is accessible by STB buses 100 and the future M6 underground line, which will link the airport with the main train station of Bucharest.
 * Aurel Vlaicu International Airport is situated only 8 km north of the Bucharest city centre and is accessible by STB buses 100, 131, 330, 335, tram line 5 (temporarily closed, replaced by 605) and taxi.

Water transport
Although it is situated on the banks of a river, Bucharest has never functioned as a port city, with other Romanian cities such as Constanţa and Brăila acting as the country's main ports. However, the Danube-Bucharest Canal, which is 73 km long, was under construction until 1990 and is not being worked on as of 2015. When eventually finished, the canal will link Bucharest to the Danube River and, via the Danube-Black Sea Canal, to the Black Sea. This transport corridor is expected to be a significant component of the city's transport infrastructure and increase sea traffic by a large margin.

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The Senshu Bank

The Senshu Bank, Ltd. (株式会社泉州銀行; Kabushikigaisha Senshu Ginkō) is a Japanese bank, headquartered in Kishiwada with 63 branches. It is involved in loaning, credit cards, leasing, and the development and sale of computer software. It is traded on the Osaka Securities Exchange under symbol 8372.

History
The bank was founded in 1951.

Shareholders

 * Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group
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To: user:Rdsmith4,

Why did you revert Super Mario and Mario Jr. as they are valid monikers used in hockey. 132.205.94.18 01:19, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Do not add given names to this page
This is the disambiguation page for general entries that can be referred to as "Mario". Anyone with the name Mario is listed in Mario (given name), a disambiguation page specifically for people's names. As a matter of course, any time articles about a person are added to this page (I'm looking at you, Mario (entertainer)) they will be promptly removed and this is why.  æron  phone  home   15:47, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

 * That's valid if "Mario" is part of a longer name and the person is not regularly referred to as solely "Mario". But if they go by only the single name Mario, as the entertainer and opera singer apparently do, it's perfectly okay to include them here. Propaniac (talk) 22:00, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Nintendo Mario
A search for "Mario" links directly to the Nintendo character, but I think it should go to this disambiguation page. Also, at the top of this page, the intro mentions Nintendo Mario right off, and then "oh yeah, there are also some other uses." I think the general usage as a proper name should lead the page.Barndoorsentry (talk) 17:53, 5 October 2011 (UTC)\ Definitely. It's pretty bizarre. I feel like it's been hijacked by fans of the franchise, when clearly it's a very common name with a lot of different meanings. But apparently it's been six years, and nothing has changed. Nikki Lee 1999 (talk) 19:55, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

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“Mario movie” entries
Searching “Mario movie” redirects to the film and animation section. So I added that famous Mario movie as a mention. Or not… Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 22:28, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

 * I am not quite sure how to properly handle entries related to “Mario movie” when all entries of just “Mario” lead to that film and animation section. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 22:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Lake Maracaibo

Oil Companies Operating on and around Lake Maracaibo
Following are the names, as I recall, of some of the oil companies with active concessions on Lake Maracaibo during the 1960’s and 70’s. It would be very interesting to hear from readers what additions and corrections could be.

Creole Petroleum ( ESSO / EXXON) Shell de Venezuela Mene Grande (Gulf Oil Co.) Texaco Sun Oil Company Atlantic Refining San Jacinto Phillips Petroleum Chevron (Richmond Exploration) Mobile Petroleum CVP (Corporacion Venezolana de Petroleo) now PDVSA

Inefectivness In the Duckweed Removal
It must be noted that most of the removal procedures have been focusing on removing that is in sight of from the land, eventough the lakes currents move in a spiral manner making the duckweed travel to the center of the lake, disappearing from sight and then reapearinggiving it more that plenty of time to grow

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The Lake Maracaibo

Lake Maracaibo is a large body of water in northwestern Venezuela. It is the largest lake in South America. Although some people considered it a sea because it is connected by way of a 54-km (34-mile) strait to the Gulf of Venezuela, and thence to the Caribbean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean, is a lake because is full of fresh water, the only case in planet Earth. Its main tributary is the Catatumbo River, but several other rivers flow from the nearly surrounding Andes mountain ranges.

What is the source for it being the largest lake? What people consider it a sea? Who considers it a lake? The only case of what on planet Earth? --Lethargy 04:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

 * The only case of what on planet Earth?
 * R) all others lake are "trapped water" that connects to the sea through tiny flow of water, this one connects directly. 88.20.47.94 (talk) 12:00, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

duckweed infestation appeared strangely after the 2002/2003 oil spills.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=15292

brought in by foreign ships? growth provoked after oil cleanup?

Lake of Venezuela?
Why does the talk page redirect to Lake of Venezuela? There are at least 2 major lakes in Venezuela, and google hits are much greater for Maricabo than for "lake of venezuela" wgh 16:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC) -dialectric

 * Fixed. I moved the page to Talk:Lake Maracaibo. -- User:Docu

V0.7 nomination fails for now
I really wish I could pass this, but it really needs much more general content. I agree that this is an important lake, and when I put together the list of lakes to include in Version 0.5 this was one I wanted to include. Take a look at Great Salt Lake as an example - an article on a lake should cover things like the geology/geography, the wildlife, commerce/transportation/fishing, any human settlements nearby, etc. Most of these topics still need to be added. If some of these things can get added, leave me a message and I'd be delighted to switch this from fail to pass. Thanks, Walkerma 05:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Everlasting Lightining storms?
Is it true that there are many lightning storms here? I read that this lake is considered the greatest single generator of ozone in the planet because of the lightning storms.

See http://fogonazos.blogspot.com/2007/06/catatumbo-everlasting-storm.html

“Relámpago del Catatumbo”

 * I read once somewhere that it is the most-lightning struck place on Earth. Historian932 (talk) 02:58, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: Everlasting Lightining storms?
I found a webpage which mentions these lightning storms: http://blogs.ngm.com/blog_central/2010/02/lightning-up.html The Dutch edition of the National Geographic of februari 2010 also has that article (Dutch translation) in it. —Preceding Peter Swinkels comment added by 62.234.137.38 (talk) 16:00, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Lake or bay
According the definition of lake can't be Maracaibo bay regarded as a lake (due to its sea connection). All the references are at least 50 years old and conditions have changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marturius (talk • contribs) 09:42, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

 * It's called a "lake", but I agree it's really a bay, just as the Salton "Sea" is really a lake. We discuss this. — kwami (talk) 10:31, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

 * The article says, "It is 'commonly considered a lake rather than a bay or lagoon, and at 13,210 km² it would be the largest lake in South America". "Commonly considered" are ambiguous words that have no relevant meaning, as the above discussion notes, the use of lake is rong. Maracaibo must surely be a bay because it not is connected directly to the sea by a strait not a river. Otherwise the Black Sea must surely be the largest "lake" in the world!?109.158.255.82 (talk) 10:46, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Black sea is part of the sea AKA salty water, this one is sweet water/fresh water, according definition a bay is part of the ocean, ocean -> salty water. 88.20.47.94 (talk) 12:09, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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Edit-warring to change the description of Lake Maracaibo
Edit-warring has been ongoing changing the description of Lake Maracaibo to a bay, estuary etc. However, there are many extremely reliable sources describing Maracaibo as a lake. Therefore, one should not suppress that RS-supported description based on their own conclusions. Also, edit-warring is never a solution and it has to stop. Dr.  K.  17:07, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No edit warring. I've made two edits over the past months, adding in the top two geographic authorities in the world as sources... Times Atlas of the World and the Merriam-Webster Geographic Dictionary, both of which quite clearly (see refs) classify L. Maracaibo not as a lake, but as a tidal estuary.  There was actually a ruling (see the 3rd source that I added and that you deleted, Dr. K., where in an national US academic competition, the authority (a geologist) declared that L. Maracaibo was not a lake.  Times Atlas, other reputable sources list Lake Titicaca as the largest lake on the continent.  Sure, anyone can find dozens of sources using the name "lake", just as with other bodies of water called "lakes" that are tidal.  They are, by definition of a lake, not lakes... Lakes cannot be tidal.DLinth (talk) 17:31, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

 * You just reverted me and you call that no edit-warring? No, it is the textbook definition of edit-warring. On more substantive matters, I have provided nine reliable sources all of which call it a lake. The reliable sources include peer-reviewed journals from the Association for the Sciences of Limnology and Oceanography, and NASA, among other top sources. You cannot simply ignore them and go by your own beliefs. You pointedly added to the lead that Maracaibo is not a lake. Yes, it is if reliable sources define it as such. If you have other sources calling it something else, then that can be added too. But you cannot exclude the RS that call it a lake. Also the source I deleted the first time I reverted your edits does not qualify as reliable. It is some informal note about the background of a competition. It does not have the status of an RS. If you have any doubts you can go to WP:RSN to ask about it. Dr.   K.  18:05, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Dr. K., you need to understand what reliable sources are regarding the definition of a lake, vs. your practice of finding an infinite number of so-called "sources" that simply use the term "lake". You also need to actually look at other editors' edits before deleting them and new sources added.... Rather than "going by my own beliefs", my two edits over the past month have added in three reputable sources (from the highest regarded world geography dictionary which specifies that L. Maracaibo is not a true lake, and from the highest regarded world atlas which does the same.)
 * You deleted these sources with no cause....In fact, the "competition" source, which you question above, actually uses a quote and a ruling from expert geologist and author Thomas McGuire. You deleted all three reliable sources because, it appears, they don't fit your POV which is summed up as, "if it's called a lake, then it's a lake."  That doesn't fly.  Plenty of bodies of water are called "lakes" but are not true lakes but are bays, estuaries, or inlets, all tidal, such as L. Maracaibo.
 * This is a no-brainer, actually. You don't get to install your POV in the lede here until you can (good luck!) change the universally-accepted definition of a lake, including as found on the lake WP page:  "A lake is an area of variable size filled with water, localized in a basin, that is surrounded by land, apart from any river or other outlet that serves to feed or drain the lake.[1] Lakes lie on land and are not part of the ocean,..."
 * BTW, I added sources on 6 Dec to a WP article you last edited on 13 Nov., then you immediately delete my edit and new sources with no explanation, then send me all sorts of warnings about the 24 hour revert rule on my talk page... You love deleting other editors reliable sources, it seems, and then threaten them. Really? DLinth (talk) 18:52, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

 * You love deleting other editors reliable sources, it seems, and then threaten them. Really? Please note WP:CIV and WP:NPA before proceeding any further. You are exhibiting the fundamental characteristics of POV-pushing. Namely: Edit-warring, Failure to get the point and personal attacks. I trust you will modify this behaviour asap. As far as This is a no-brainer, actually. You don't get to install your POV in the lede here until you can (good luck!) change the universally-accepted definition of a lake, read the quotes from the reliable sources, such as journals and NASA, that I supplied:
 * You simply cannot ignore these sources on the basis that you don't like their definition of the term "lake". That's not how Wikipedia works. As I told you before, I am open to other views on the status of this lake as a lake. But you will not erase the definition of this lake as lake at the lead because you cannot ignore the extremely reliable sources which call Maracaibo a lake. Dr.   K.  19:17, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * A compromise, perhaps, Dr. K. Rather than my effort which, I admit, did leave out the "often considered to be a lake" part, and rather than your effort to revert the consensus from 2008 until last month, I've added in the phrasing that was used here from 2008 until Nov. 2016 which, agreed?, should stand if and until consensus can be reached on this page to change it to "it's a lake".
 * A revert to "it is a lake" of the 2008-Nov. 2016 "tidal estuary....sometimes called a lake" phraseology would be against the Encyl. Britannica definition of L. Maracaibo, against the Websters Geogr. Dictionary for L. Maracaibo, against the most respected world atlas. I'm sure no editors (nor you in your 2010 edits here) want to do that without due deliberation....You yourself did 2010 era edits with the lede which I just re-installed as it was from 2008 to Nov. 2016... "a tidal bay or estuary"... "sometimes considered a lake".  No matter how many "sources" one finds using the word "lake" (there are many...you have about 10 it seems already!..nice research!), one cannot override 8 years of consensus from other WP editors and the most reliable sources.  The relevant RS in this case are those I just cited, world-recognized geographic authorities, since what you have been trying to overturn since your Nov. 13 edit is a geographic definition issue...no more, no less... what is a lake.  Lake Maracaibo is not a lake, and the relevant sources and WP editors from 2008 until your involvement last month agree.DLinth (talk) 19:53, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You simply cannot ignore these sources on the basis that you don't like their definition of the term "lake". That's not how Wikipedia works. As I told you before, I am open to other views on the status of this lake as a lake. But you will not erase the definition of this lake as lake at the lead because you cannot ignore the extremely reliable sources which call Maracaibo a lake. Dr.   K.  19:17, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * A compromise, perhaps, Dr. K. Rather than my effort which, I admit, did leave out the "often considered to be a lake" part, and rather than your effort to revert the consensus from 2008 until last month, I've added in the phrasing that was used here from 2008 until Nov. 2016 which, agreed?, should stand if and until consensus can be reached on this page to change it to "it's a lake".
 * A revert to "it is a lake" of the 2008-Nov. 2016 "tidal estuary....sometimes called a lake" phraseology would be against the Encyl. Britannica definition of L. Maracaibo, against the Websters Geogr. Dictionary for L. Maracaibo, against the most respected world atlas. I'm sure no editors (nor you in your 2010 edits here) want to do that without due deliberation....You yourself did 2010 era edits with the lede which I just re-installed as it was from 2008 to Nov. 2016... "a tidal bay or estuary"... "sometimes considered a lake".  No matter how many "sources" one finds using the word "lake" (there are many...you have about 10 it seems already!..nice research!), one cannot override 8 years of consensus from other WP editors and the most reliable sources.  The relevant RS in this case are those I just cited, world-recognized geographic authorities, since what you have been trying to overturn since your Nov. 13 edit is a geographic definition issue...no more, no less... what is a lake.  Lake Maracaibo is not a lake, and the relevant sources and WP editors from 2008 until your involvement last month agree.DLinth (talk) 19:53, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * A revert to "it is a lake" of the 2008-Nov. 2016 "tidal estuary....sometimes called a lake" phraseology would be against the Encyl. Britannica definition of L. Maracaibo, against the Websters Geogr. Dictionary for L. Maracaibo, against the most respected world atlas. I'm sure no editors (nor you in your 2010 edits here) want to do that without due deliberation....You yourself did 2010 era edits with the lede which I just re-installed as it was from 2008 to Nov. 2016... "a tidal bay or estuary"... "sometimes considered a lake".  No matter how many "sources" one finds using the word "lake" (there are many...you have about 10 it seems already!..nice research!), one cannot override 8 years of consensus from other WP editors and the most reliable sources.  The relevant RS in this case are those I just cited, world-recognized geographic authorities, since what you have been trying to overturn since your Nov. 13 edit is a geographic definition issue...no more, no less... what is a lake.  Lake Maracaibo is not a lake, and the relevant sources and WP editors from 2008 until your involvement last month agree.DLinth (talk) 19:53, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Third opinion
Since I see little prospect of agreement any time soon, I have asked for a third opinion at WP:3O. A volunteer is going to offer their opinion, hopefully soon. Dr.  K.  19:40, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Sure. Thanks.  See my last compromise comment above....I recommend the (geographically correct) lede paragraph as in my last edit, as it was phrased from 2008 to Nov. 2016 in this article.  True consensus, which you seek to overturn here, as established in the lede sentence from 2008 to your Nov. 2016 edits on this WP article overturning that eight year consensus, will take both more time and more than one volunteer or editor, yes?DLinth (talk) 19:53, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Consensus, by definition, requires more than one person, yes. However, if you can come up with a compromise that will get the other side on board, you will have achieved a new consensus. Simply stating that it has been that way for 8 years does not necessarily mean it had consensus - sometimes Wikipedia is simply wrong, and the error went unnoticed. (I'm not saying that's what happened here, but it has been known to happen.) Bradv  19:57, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * At the same time, there should be a consensus to change that which had been established for a while, especially if it is controversial. WP:BRD may be a useful editing pattern for this article. Bradv  19:59, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Dr. K, you are obviously an MVE(Most valuable editor) here who makes more good edits in a day than I do in a month!... I'm just a professional geographer who has been dabbling in WP geography edits for 10 years. But, really, the definition of a lake (in WP and in all top notch, reliable geographic sources) is that a lake is never, never tidal.  Tidal Lake Maracaibo is a problem, as many less reliable sources, and even some normally reliable academic ones in the non-geography realm, call it a lake because, well, it's "Lake Maracaibo."  But the Chesapeake, other estuaries around the world have dozens of water bodies that are "Lake X" or "Lake Y" and yet, geographically, they are not lakes. We cant' change all of them, nor change the lake definition in WP, nor remove Caspian and Aral Seas from all the largest lakes lists on WP, etc., etc.
 * And so, Brady, Brad... this really is not something that defies categorization... and it is not "controversial" in the narrow geographic definition sense....it is definitively not a lake in the physical geography sense. There must be some reason it was labeled a "tidal estuary"/"tidal bay" for eight years here, right!?  It didn't go unnoticed for 8 years... there were hundreds of edits by many fine editors over those eight years....all leaving (correctly) the main lede as "tidal estuary / tidal bay."
 * Compromise?...as last comment above.... With such widespread usage of the term "lake" for Maracaibo, while "tidal estuary" / "tidal bay" needs to stay in the lede sentence as it has been from 2008 to last month, adding right after that as many "often referenced as a lake", "often termed a lake", "if so, would be the largest lake..." bits as we like would be suitable, yes?DLinth (talk) 20:12, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Thank you DLinth for your kind comments. MVE was an inventive and kind  term/acronym, although I disagree with this classification, since I consider you, and in fact any good-faith editor, an MVE. In any case, I am against this edit which is not part of the consensus, as it existed in the longer term in the past, because it specifically states that Maracaibo is not a lake. However, I am not against this consensus lead from 2015 which is similar to what appears now. If the curent lead stays the way it is now I am ok with it. I agree fully with, especially when he states At the same time, there should be a consensus to change that which had been established for a while, especially if it is controversial., which I find to be excellent advice, that I am already following. I also thank him for taking the time to render his considered 3O.  Dr.   K.  20:32, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Thank you and agreed, Dr. K... I was in awe when I took 2 seconds to see your voluminous output of edits! Keep up the valuable work.  Also, as you point out immediately above, my initial "not a lake" edit was overstated and poorly worded...I didn't give the wording, etc. much thought there, so thanks for "jumping on it"!DLinth (talk) 20:46, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Thank you again DLinth. I never thought of my work that way, but your kindness is appreciated. I would also add that I value your expert opnion and your honesty. It was very nice meeting you. All the best. Dr.   K.  20:58, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

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Maximum depth
The language versions of Wikipedia have very different values for the maximum depth of Lake Maracaibo. In German it is 35 m, in English and Frensh it is 60 m, in Russian and Swedish it is 250 m. 216Kleopatra (talk) 13:51, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

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Moved citation
An edit on 30 January 2018 inserted some new text in front of a citation. The following citation: was originally given for term's original sense would have been that of a "little Venice". I have verified that the book does support this statement, though Google Books did not allow me to see the page number. I have moved the citation to the full stop behind the statement supported.2A00:23C6:812A:6A00:D884:DC37:7861:BADC (talk) 12:13, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Islands?
The article says there are 467 islands, and has a whole section on islands, but you can look at satellite images, and there are no islands in lake maracaibo. There are no citations for the islands. I suggest the islands section should be removed.

'Anu' Name 'Coquivacoa'
I cannot find any information regarding the language 'Anu' as is listed. There are a number of citations in this article which are in Chinese and Spanish, which I cannot check for information as I do not speak either language. Preliminary research has shown it to possibly be an alternate name for Paraujano, but I could not find any definitive English-language proof of this. Multilingual user support requested.

Also cannot find any definitive proof that Coquivacoa is the name for Lake Maracaibo in Anu (or in Paraujano, if they are the same language). Wikipedia has an article for the term, but lists two different languages as potential origins, and also states that the term's usage as a word for the lake is debated. I cannot read the sources, though, as they are in Spanish, so if anyone can and is willing to verify the authenticity of these claims as they pertain to this article, that would be much appreciated. Thanks. NintendoRevolutionNR (talk) 23:28, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

title: Talk:Lake Maracaibo