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Talk:Dr. Mario

double articles
what a mess, there is a dr. mario article, which is more a series article, the is a sdr mario (video game) article and the template doesn't contain half of the games like dr. wario... Romanista 09:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Splitting article off
I somewhat have a problem with A link to the past removing much of this content..I think it should be split into multiple articles

 * Dr. Mario (the character and such)
 * Dr. Mario Series.
 * Dr. Mario NES (which would cover all the clones)
 * Dr. Mario 64

If we dont proceed with this then the older revision should be reverted -- larsinio (talk)
 * Then PROCEED with it. This content will not be here when those articles are made. - A Link to the Past (talk) 19:51, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

The patent
Hey, the patent says that the random number data is stored in the ROM. Wouldn't that mean that Dr. Mario clones that generate random number data without using a ROM (for example, on computers or CD-ROM-based consoles) not fall under the patent? Heck, if it turns out that Dr. Mario doesn't actually store random numbers in the ROM but instead uses a normal random number generator, it might not even be under its own patent! - furrykef (Talk at me) 21:11, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Also regarding the patent, the link to it is broken. It's not a 404 response, but the patent isn't found in the patent database. ~ anonymous Dr. Mario fan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.26.84.199 (talk) 18:14, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Meh, it works as of now. Salvidrim (talk) 23:08, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Release History
Is that really an incomplete list? Should the tag be removed now? I certaintly haven't heard of any more Dr. Mario games than that, unless you include Smash Bros. Melee, which isn't REALLY a Dr. Mario game. Fieari 19:51, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Not anymore. - A Link to the Past (talk) 20:42, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

Dr. Mario 64 etc.
Honestly, this should be about the original game, Dr. Mario, and any information on the character be moved to Mario. Dr. Mario 64 is very different, with a new gameplay mode, four players, improved graphics, a new story, and the fact that the plotline and cast is reminiscent of Wario Land more so than Super Mario Bros. - A Link to the Past (talk) 08:53, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

I agree a new article for dr. mario 64 should be started. -larsinio (talk) 8:50, August 31, 2005

 * Funny - I think the article should be about the entire Dr. Mario series, as there isn't nearly enough information to justify splitting it out into games. Nifboy 21:53, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * You were saying? - A Link to the Past (talk) 01:35, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

World record
I removed the sentence:
 * Conor Houghton recently set the world record by scoring a whopping 396,000 points shattering the former record of 96,000 points.

because it is almost certainly untrue, if it is true, some support is needed. Notjim 22:17, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I also doubt that its true. I just did a Google search and couldn't find anything relevant-- T B C [[Image:Confused-tpvgames.gif|18px|]] ???   ???   ??? 07:21, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Source Code
Does anybody know of any place where I can find source code for a Dr. Mario clone? I have to make a clone of my own in Visual Basic (hehe... advanced) for my school and it'd be nice to see how somebody else did it. BirdValiant 03:42, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Karn Evil 9
Fifteen minutes and fourty-four seconds (15:44) into Karn Evil 9, during the Second Impression, you can hear a very distinct melody. The very familiar measure sounds identical to one in Dr. Mario, the song Chill, at one minute and twenty-nine seconds (1:29). Although there is no evidence I know about that says the creators of the game borrowed the melody from the song it is not an uncommon finding in the video game world. Other infamous video game themes including ones from classics like Doom also feature "stolen" melodies. Is this relevant enough to be featured? --The Skunk 07:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Chill music
anyone have a link to Dr. Mario's "chill" music?

Start Menu Music
The start menu music reminds me of the theme song for the Gummi Bears.

"Time to get a haircut"??
Is there any evidence that there are lyrics to the music in the game? The entire haircut and barber talk in the gameplay section seems to be completely made up. My searches in Google only bring up this article, so I've removed it. If someone can find some adequate proof, feel free to put it back. --Jacquismo 01:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

SPECIFIC DATES
WAT R THE SPECIFIC DATES OF THE JAPANESE N AMERICAN RELEASES —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.195.132.253 (talk) 20:04, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

Fair use rationale for Image:Dr-Mario NESscreen.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Rip-off Dr. Hello
There is a not so known Korean Dr. Mario rip-off called Dr. Hello made in 1991 by Sis Corp for MSX and then ported to SG-1000. I think that the MSX version is very, very rare to find, because there is no ROM of it. Only there's a rom of the SG-1000 version and one that is a SG-1000 ROM converted to MSX. The game has also adult stuff, like nude nurses. Also, looks like the SMS is compatible with the SG-1000, because the game is sometimes confused with a SMS game. Also, I think it was originally made for the Samsung Gam*Boy, that is a SMS clone that runs SMS games. Here are some sources (I think that those are the only internet pages about this game):

Converted MSX ROM: http://www.icongames.com.br/msxfiles/drhello/index.htm

Gameplay video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqgUa-uZlus

Information (1): http://gonintendo.com/?p=71194

Information (2): http://www.gamesniped.com/2009/02/01/sega-master-system-dr-hello-reproduction/

SMS (or SG-1000, I don't know why it says SMS) rom: http://smspower.org/db/dr_hello-sms-kr.shtml

Those are the only sources I found, and I think the only sources in internet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.231.97.147 (talk) 21:50, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

It's hard to find the download site....
--222.64.213.102 (talk) 09:58, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=%22Dr.+Mario%22+site%3Awww.nintendo.co.jp%2F&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

--222.64.213.102 (talk) 10:04, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=%22Dr.+Mario%22+site%3Awww.nintendo.com.hk%2F&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

--222.64.213.102 (talk) 10:06, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22Dr.+Mario%22+site%3Awww.nintendo.ca%2F&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

--222.64.213.102 (talk) 10:10, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=%22Dr.+Mario%22+download+site%3Awww.nintendo.co.uk%2F&btnG=Search&aq=o&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

--222.64.213.102 (talk) 10:12, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=%22Dr.+Mario%22+download+site%3Awww.nintendo.com.au%2F&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

--222.64.213.102 (talk) 10:13, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=%22Dr.+Mario%22+site%3Awww.nintendo.tw%2F&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

--222.64.213.102 (talk) 10:15, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=%22Dr.+Mario%22+site%3Awww.nintendo.co.kr%2F&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

COLOR ???
i've read elsewhere in wiki, that the black & white game boy cartridge can play on game boy color with a special palette. Game boy color can add colors to games, but yes, i've just try it and it works. It is not as good as the NES version, or as other game boy color games, but it has colors. but... i got this game befor super game boy and game boy color cames out, back in 1992 ! that is amazing. Super mario land (1) and alleyway have their very own palettes too, but they're crappy, Dr mario is very nice ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.8.212.160 (talk) 16:50, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Reception:
"While parents were critical of the premise due to its inclusion of medicine in a children's game..." ...what the hell? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.13.141.30 (talk) 18:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, what's the problem? Salvidrim (talk) 22:31, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

C-Class Assessment.
Per request at WP:VG, I've decided to perform the assessment. This is my first time doing anything like this, but I'll give it a shot. Specifically, the request was for a C-class assessment, with, if possible, tips for further improvement to B-class.

I'm happy to say that the article, as far as I can tell, passes C-class criteria. Though some work definitely needs to be done, if I knew very little about Dr. Mario, this would give me enough information to consider myself satisfied, which seems to be the main criterion required for the class. As for B-class...

B1: References - The references are... acceptable. However, I think the article relies a bit too much on NinDB. It would be a good idea to see if you can't locate some of its information elsewhere. Neoseeker's also a bit iffy. Also, try to locate a second reference for the claim mentioned in the previous section- it seems to have been challenged, and as a particularly strange (if believable) claim, it could use the extra citation. B2: Coverage - What is currently in the article is probably covered fairly enough. However, if it's possible, I'd like to see a bit more information on the development of the game. If that can't be done- which is fair enough, that happens sometime, especially with older or more obscure titles- perhaps go into a bit more detail about the game's impact and legacy. I feel it just needs... something, but I'm afraid I can't quite place just what. B3: Structure - Spiffing! B4: Grammar - No obvious grammatical mistakes, would probably pass B here as well. B5: Support - Illustration is fine. One quirk with the infobox: it might be a decent idea to add the release dates of the Virtual Console and Game Boy Advance versions. There's probably relevant information on the latter at the NES Classics page, and the various lists of virtual console games could aid in finding that version. (I don't know if it was released on the console virtual console, but I'm pretty sure it made it out somewhere on the 3DS one.) B6: Clarity - Generally acceptable. Is the term 'falling block game' widely used? May want to link to its entry on List of puzzle video games.

Overall, it's a pretty decent article. It definitely has potential if you can add just a bit more to it, but at the moment it's got a few kinks that could be worked out before B-class is considered. However, none of these should stop it from reaching C-class, so congratulations.Hammerbrodude (talk) 01:44, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

 * I'll try address some concerns.

 * B1 - I was uneasy adding the citations for the release dates. I will try to find alternative sources for the information.

 * B2 - I very, very strongly agree that a Development section is needed and it is planned.

 * B5 - Agreed on the GBA Mini Series release. And why is there no info (outside of a category) about the VC release? What an omission! I'm on it! ✅

 * B6 - Wikilinked appropriately. ✅
 * Salvidrim (talk) 01:56, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

 * B5 and B6 addressed and fixed! Also modified the refs a bit and worked on the Legacy sub-section.  B1 I will take care of as soon as possible, and B2 will definitely need a lot more work, and on that I'm hoping I'll be able to have assistance from the other editor who worked a lot on this.  I'll leave him a note. Thanks for the assessment! Salvidrim (talk) 02:38, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * As for the second point of B1, the claim is from a book, thus any likely "second" source will probably be quoting the book. I kind of doubt the reliability of the claim that "parents" complained -- I believe the author, Andy Slaven, may have expressed that idea and synthesised things, but if the fact that parents expressed the criticism desribed in the article was really important and notable, it would be reported elsewhere, which is not the case.  I am trying to obtain a copy of the book to be able to see he text by myself. Salvidrim (talk) 03:10, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * For the release dates sources, I was able to find alternate sources for all releases but the GB NP one, where only NinDB and GFaqs seem to have the info, and in that case NinDB appears the most reliable of the two. Salvidrim (talk) 19:17, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Also swapped out some NinDB sources from the Legacy sub-section. Ref#2 bugs me -- why does it reference Dr Mario 64's credits? Salvidrim (talk) 19:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * According to the credits (which I've viewed here), Gunpei Yokoi & Takahiro Harada are credited for "original concept". I am unsure as to whether or not it specifically refers to this game, however...
 * Aha! Found an interview with the Harada (here) where he mentions being the game's producer.  Will edit accordingly! Salvidrim (talk) 19:41, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Video Game Bible Quote
I was able, after much searching, to find the full quote. Here it is:

 * "This is similar to playing Tetris, but with colorful pills instead. Parental groups were upset with Nintendo at their choice of content, since many parents disagreed with the use of medicine in the game.  Nintendo basically told these groups that they could bite the "Big N" and kept producing this title (which parents bought for their children anyway)."
 * Video Game Bible, 1985-2002 By Andy Slaven, p.102

So it seems the quote is verifiable indeed. Whether it should be presented as fact (as it is now) or as Mr. Slaven's opinion (or account of the situation) is more debatable. --Salvidrim! T·C 08:14, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Added the relevant part of the quote and converted {cite web} to {cite book} properly.  Salvidrim!   05:49, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

B-Class Assessment
How lovely to be back here; it's nice to see people so dedicated to the improvement of articles. This was my first attempt as assessment back when I changed it to C-Class... and I'm pleased that it's been noticed. I've gained a bit of experience since then, so without further ado...

Per request at WP:VG, I've decided to perform the B-Class assessment. Specifically, the request was for such an assessment and any advice for possible GA status. I'll do what I can to provide this.

 * B1: References
 * This will definitely provide some trouble later on should anyone attempt GAN. In particular, the following media do not have a clear consensus for reliability (as far as I can tell)
 * TheMushroomKingdom - Fansite. Although running such a site probably requires a great deal of work, I'm not sure this would stand much chance of being considered reliable.
 * NintendoLife - Oh, can't we come to consensus for this one? It looks thoroughly reliable a website to me. You might be able to find the information elsewhere, I don't know, but really I'd advise just getting the well-needed discussion for this site out of the way so that it can be used reliably across the site.
 * NinDB - Though this looks accurate enough for me, it may be a good idea to establish what makes it accurate.
 * Arcade-Museum - Probably accurate; a favorable argument could probably be made for this.
 * Nintendojo - Like NintendoLife, it looks accurate enough to where one couple probably get away with using it, although admittedly I'm not sure quite as convincing a case one could make for it as NintendoLife. In any case, it's only for the review, so using it is probably alright.
 * Also, the following sites are situational and may or may not be reliable in this article.
 * Kotaku - Prior to 2010 (if I remember right), the site was not considered wholly reliable here, and so only material by certain authors is considered reliable before that year. Since the article was published in 2007, it would be a good idea to prove the reliability of Mr. McWherter.
 * GiantBomb - Reliable for content by the editorial staff. As this appears to be from a database, I'm doubting that this page was from them; therefore, this source would probably be called unreliable.
 * And finally, the following source is considered unreliable and should probably be removed-
 * MobyGames - As it relies on user-submitted content with "no apparent editorial oversight".
 * However, it seems that all information I'd question is cited, so kudos. Thanks, also, for providing the quote in the above section.

 * B2: Coverage
 * Lead is fine. There are a lot of people who dislike citations in the lead if the information is used elsewhere... I'm not one of these people, but it might be wise to edit the article accordingly later on should GAN be attempted.
 * Gameplay is fine. Which isn't totally surprising, as Dr. Mario isn't a very complex game. I am sure that there are competitive players somewhere who would have my head for this quote, though.
 * Development... I like longer development sections. They're usually the most interesting reads if they can be provided, as they show information that is not readily apparent upon just playing the game. However, for the older games-especially Dr. Mario, whose conception was probably a two-sentence exchange of "can we capitalize on Tetris?" and "sure, and Mario too"-I understand that this may not be possible. Forgiven.
 * Lead of 'reception' is fine.

 * B3: Structure
 * The structure is inherently fine, although there are a lot of one-paragraph sections. Could any of them be merged, perhaps?

 * B4: Grammar
 * There were a few wordings I found mildly quirky and a couple of minor spelling errors. I've fixed them. If you want more information, you can check the diff in history. With no intended rudeness, my favorite of these was seeing 'play' repeated three times within five words.

 * B5: Periphery
 * I'd recommend using one of those fancy rationale templates for the cover art, but there are no apparent problems with any images or infoboxes used in the article.

 * B6: Clarity
 * No readily apparent issues.

History: Section B1 completed by Emmy   Altava  07:05, 10 December 2011 (UTC) Sections B3 and B5 completed by Emmy   Altava  07:12, 10 December 2011 (UTC) Sections B2, B4, and B6 completed up to (but not including) "Re-releases". The rest will be done (after they wake up) by Emmy   Altava  07:46, 10 December 2011 (UTC) All sections completed by Emmy   Altava  23:42, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

To respond to a few concerns:
 * B1 - Individual Sources:
 * TheMushroomKingdom.net. I raised it for discussion here specifically after using it in this article, and the only reply was not an objection.  I would consider it situational for Mario game as a factual source.
 * NintendoLife - all discussions seem to point towards reliability. 1 & 2.
 * NinDB - No prior discussion, used here because the information, despite being presume accurate could not be found elsewhere in more reliable sources thus far.
 * Arcade-Museum - This site is "Killer List of Videogames", KLOW is shown to be a platform-specific RS in the Sources page.
 * Nintendojo - No prior discussion; used for editorial content.
 * I've replace the Kotaku one with this one, from Nintendo World Report, also classified reliable at WP:VG/Source
 * MobyGames -- I am finding several mentions of Masaaki Iwasaki having been part of the Data East sound team, but none in strictly reliable sources. The only one marginally better than MobyGames is an OCRemix.com page linking him to Magical Drop.  I'll change it, but I am unsure of how preferable it really is.
 * Giantbomb replaced with an IGN source.

 * B2 - There really isn't much more meat to Development, I'm afraid. What little facts there are certainly deserve mention, as the people who worked on the game also took part in other notable projects.
 * As for citations in the lede -- it was something I was mulling over, and will certainly give it more thought before a GAN.

 * B3 - I changed the structure around a bit to standardize it and paragraphed things more appropriately.
 * B4 - Three instances of "play" in five words? Ouchie!
 * B5 - I'm not familiar with images, rationales and such. I'll see if something can be done. ✅

 * Please let know once you're done if you genuinely believe there is enough material to make it GA or if you think it is "as good as it can reasonably get". :)  Salvidrim!   09:05, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

I've gone through the article and am happy with the improvements made. I've done a bit of reshuffling of the material used within the article; I think it looks a bit more full now. (Specifically, Ports merged with development to become "Development and releases", Sequels merged with "Legacy".)

Now that we're through that, let's get to the fun part.

 * B1: Majority of sources are either definitely reliable or likely reliable. Ideally, we'd come to consensus on the remaining sources, but such might be difficult given the increasing apathy plaguing Wikiprojects in general... but it's earned B for sure.
 * B2: Per the above. It would be nice if it could be strengthened a little, but it's enough for B and might survive GA.
 * B3: I think the structure is fine, but I just changed it, so without a second opinion it might be egotistic of me to give this anything more than B. GA could be possible here.
 * B4: Quirkiness eliminated. There shouldn't be any noteworthy problems here.
 * B5: All images have rationale, all infoboxes appear complete.
 * B6: I'm a total nerd, but I think the article is mostly clear enough to be understood. I'd have someone else look over it who doesn't care as much about video games as me. However...

Verdict:. Last night, I wasn't sure I'd be able to give the promotion... but after looking it over both last night and now, I think it's improved enough to where it should be able to pass a B-Class assessment with no major issue. Could the article reach GA? I think it probably could. Really, all that might need to be done would be a bit of discussion on sources.

A-class assessment
This simply needs approbation from two uninvolved editors. My reason for nominating the article follow:
 * A-class (as opposed to GA or FA) is more about the article's completeness than its outstanding quality; I believe Dr. Mario (video game) is as complete as it will ever be, thus believe it should be A-Class. Other more stylistic concerns will be worked on before or during an upcoming FAC.  Salvidrim!

RE: A-class assesment
it seems to me that this article meets all nessary critiera for an A-class aritcle, However in reviewing this aritcle I found one minor gamatical error, which I fixed. Think this article should be reviewd by at least one other editor for any other grammer or spelling errors, then promoted to A-class — Preceding unsigned comment added by 16bitz (talk • contribs) 14:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I did a lot of edits, which includes general fix ups and rewording, during in the past hour. Anyone want to take a final review before promoting to A-class? --ThomasO1989 (talk) 16:01, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

I think this deserves A-Class. -- J (t)  01:24, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: article moved. Andrewa (talk) 23:12, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

– I firmly believe this is unambiguously the primary topic of Dr. Mario and that the disambiguator is superfluous. The current Dr. Mario disambiguation page should be located at Dr. Mario (disambiguation). This will require admin assistance, as per the separate pages' histories. Salvidrim!  13:39, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Dr. Mario (video game) → Dr. Mario
 * Dr. Mario → Dr. Mario (disambiguation)
 * Support, but this should have been formatted as a multi-move including the disambiguation page. This is the clear primary topic, unless someone can provide evidence that the real doctors listed on the disambiguation page are commonly referred to as "Dr. Mario".  Powers T 19:58, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Ah, good point. So, how is a multi-move done? ;)  Salvidrim!   20:02, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Requested moves Powers T 20:07, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅  Salvidrim!   20:10, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

 * Support. I've done a bit of fiddling with disambiguation pages in the project in the last couple of days, removing any that were currently redirects or only disambiguating to one page (ultimately removing 17 unarguably useless pages from WP:VG), and this one was one of the ones I was most curious about the continued existence of. There's really no question that if someone is searching for Dr. Mario, they meant this. Emmy   Altava  08:08, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Support: The original video game is clearly the primary topic. — Bility (talk) 21:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Doctor or physician

 * ''The following discussion is an archived discussion.

Dr. Mario assumes the role of a physician, not a doctor. Physicians are recognized for the completion of a doctorate degree in medicine (MD), which provides them with the title of a physician, medical doctor, or surgeon. Doctors, on the other hand, have completed a doctorate of philosophie (PhD) in university. They are mostly consultants and professors, not like Dr. Mario. At first, I wanted to add the "medical" in front of "doctor," but realized that the word in question was already used three times in the sentence. Therefore, I changed "doctor" to "physician," describing more accuratley Dr. Mario's role. --MaxDawsonC (talk) 14:55, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The first wikilink in the lede already points to Physician, but uses the word doctor, in an attempt at usingg simple words in the intro. The use of the word "doctor" without further clarification in the main body of text was an oversight; a doctor is someone who has a PhD, a physician is a health care provider; I believe the distinction is unambiguous in the case of the role Mario assumes in this game.  Salvidrim!   16:38, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This is not a matter of using simple words in the article's introduction. On Wikipedia, we want articles to be accurate.  The word "physician" is used in society to describe the main character's occupation.  Doctors, on the other hand, describe anybody who obtained a PhD.  Professors, sociologists, scientists, researchers, and nurses, among many others, can be called doctors if they complete a third cycle degree in university leading to the obtention of a doctorate degree, the famous PhD. --MaxDawsonC (talk) 18:14, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Unless any of the games or game manuals refer to him as a physician, I don't think we should use it. We don't need to be applying real world technicalities to a light-hearted, fictional character, that is very light on story or medical information in general anyways. His name is Dr. Mario. Call him a Doctor. Keep it simple. Sergecross73  msg me   19:03, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Are we seriously disputing the use of a single term? The character of Dr. Mario is both a doctor and a physician; the former is shown by the character's name and the latter is shown by his appearance & the gameplay. Neither term is incorrect and which one is used comes down to preference.  Salvidrim!   19:19, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, the word "Doctor" or "Dr." is added in front of an individual's name, as in Dr. Mario, to show that the person is a physician. Others who have completed a PhD usually add the ",PhD" at the end of their name.  It is however true that certain individuals with PhDs call themselves doctors. --MaxDawsonC (talk) 22:29, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I oppose the use of the term "medical doctor"; doctor and physician are both preferable terms. I feel edit-warring over this is a bit silly however... I support physician.  Only one editor that I know of opposes the word physician and has doner so without discussion his position AND by violating 3RR; I believe we sjould stick to "physician" at he moment, unless objections are properly forumalted in the futtre. Pardon my typing Im not usin a computer!   Salvidrim!   23:50, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll go with your convincing argument. We will stick with the word "physician."  (P.S. That's the reason for the typos!) --MaxDawsonC (talk) 00:37, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hah! That's what happens when I'm not home and I can't resist replying from my iPod. ;)  Salvidrim!   01:42, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Non-native English speakers know the "doctor" can means who save life, but the word "Physician" is too rare...--铁铁的火大了 (talk) 08:43, 25 March 2012 (UTC) Non-native English speakers think that "Doctor" or "Dr." means physician or doctor (title) simply, and the games is a Japanese game.--铁铁的火大了 (talk) 09:23, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by that? --MaxDawsonC (talk) 16:00, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Very interesting, considering what is written on your user page... "What I want to say is that I can not understand English." --MaxDawsonC (talk) 16:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * His English is good enough to communicate, though it shouldn't render his argument invalid. His point is that the original developer says he's a doctor, therefore, Mario's a "doctor." On a related note, the "galaxies" in Super Mario Galaxy hardly fit the definition of a real-life galaxy but you don't see that article calling them "small clusters of planets." Stick with doctor. The term is generic enough that it gets the point across. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 16:41, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * As I've mentionned above I personally agree with either doctor or physician without much difference; going back to "doctor wikilinked to physician" (which was the last stable version) is certainly a proposition I can support. As per WP:BRD I'm thus reverting to the last stable version, without prejudice to changing it back to physician if consensus emerges at a later point.  Salvidrim!   16:58, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It's OK with me. As long as the words are not changed without a valid explanation... --MaxDawsonC (talk) 22:11, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, what Thomas is saying is exactly what I was getting at. Sergecross73   msg me   15:06, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
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Removal Addition of SNES from console list
I have now twice reverted the removal by 50.121.5.250 of SNES from console list. I've invited the user to participate in this discussion... although it is a well-sourced fact, so I am unsure what discussion there is to be had. I am eager to hear his viewpoint, however. Salvidrim!   ✉  06:39, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, scratch that, I misunderstood the user's edits -- he tried adding the console to the list, not removing it. However, a game called Dr. Mario was indeed never released on SNES; a game called Tetris & Dr. Mario was, and included a version of this game.  Salvidrim!    ✉  07:00, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Now the editor has removed Nintendo Power from the list, while that is an appropriately sourced fact... I'm not sure what exactly is going but I've urged the user to come here to discuss.  Salvidrim!    ✉  07:06, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd say that equilibrium will probably be re-established sooner or later. The details referred to look to be relatively minor and this isn't a BLP, so there shouldn't need to be any rush to deal with repeated attempts to change the content. I expect that other editors familiar with the topic will chime in and consensus will become evident. -- Trevj (talk) 05:10, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Arcade High Score
I removed a bit of text about people holding arcade high scores because I could not find coverage of the fact in reliable, independent sources, and as such the information appears to be non-notable. :) · Salvidrim!  ·  ✉  16:18, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Proof that Dr. Mario is a physcian.
In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, for Mario's normal trophy it says:

It's almost certain that they are talking about Dr. Mario. Should we call him a physician then? --GameBoyMad (talk) 15:40, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No. It simply states he's a plumber with the knowledge of a physician. That's not stating someone is literally a physician, you'd need a reliable source that specifically states he's a physician. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 15:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

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Prototype titled Virus
The prototype of this game was titled Virus, not to be confused with ports of Zarch. Is there a more reliable source for this than The Cutting Room Floor (earlier, later)? --Damian Yerrick (talk) 22:36, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * My feeling is that any mention of this would belong better either at Virus (disambiguation) or as a hatnote on Zarch, but I'm not sure whether posting on one of those other talk pages would be considered forum shopping. I have nothing to offer on the sourcing question. --SoledadKabocha (talk) 05:33, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:DABRELATED requires that the target page (in this case, Dr. Mario) mention the term (in this case, the title Virus). Without mention in this article, I can't justify a link from Virus (disambiguation) or the top of Zarch, and without an additional secondary source, I can't justify mention in this article. --Damian Yerrick (talk) 15:16, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I had realized, several days earlier, that my original reply was essentially useless for just this reason. I apologize for my sloppiness, in particular not making more time to actually look for sources. (To clarify: I can think of a handful of other websites that mention the Virus prototype, but none are anywhere near reliable.) --SoledadKabocha (talk) 06:12, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Capsule SE cloning the game
I just figured that Capsule SE made by m-bounce was cloning the Dr. Mario, right? Apollo C. Quiboloy fans (talk) 13:05, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Fever theme in Puyo Puyo Tetris
According to ShiroBrawl, the fever theme was used in Puyopuyo Tetris, even though Sega own Nintendo's intellectual properties/licensed rights. ACQ322Acuity (answer me) 00:59, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

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Cover for album Somewhere to Elsewhere by Kansas.

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Somewhere to Elsewhere

Somewhere to Elsewhere is the fourteenth studio album by American rock band Kansas, released in 2000. It is Kansas' first album to feature the band's original lineup (though they never were actually all together in the studio during the recording sessions) since 1980's Audio-Visions, along with Billy Greer, who joined the band in 1985. Steve Walsh tracked vocals in his home studio while working on his second solo album Glossolalia and did not join the rest of the band at Kerry Livgren's studio. His contribution were solely vocals. Livgren composed all of the album's tracks, and the hidden track "Geodesic Dome" is his first and only lead vocal on a Kansas song. Somewhere to Elsewhere is Kansas' last studio album to feature both Robby Steinhardt, who left the band in 2006 and died in 2021, and Steve Walsh, who left the band in 2014.

Track listing
All songs written by Kerry Livgren.

Personnel

 * Kansas
 * Steve Walsh - lead and backing vocals
 * Kerry Livgren - guitars, keyboards, producer, engineer, mixing, lead vocals on track 11
 * Robby Steinhardt - violin, viola, lead and backing vocals
 * Rich Williams - guitars, producer
 * Billy Greer - bass guitar, backing vocals, lead vocals on track 6
 * Dave Hope - bass guitar on tracks 2 and 6
 * Phil Ehart - drums, producer

 * Additional musicians
 * Jake Livgren, Jessica Livgren, "Not Man Big Men Chorus" - additional background vocals

 * Production
 * Brad Aaron - engineer, mixing

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DDO 74
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 * DDO 74 is an alternate designation for this galaxy. The initials DDO stand for "David Dunlop Observatory," and in this context designate the DDO catalog of galaxies, of which Leo I is the 74th galaxy in the catalog. Hope this is helpful. User:Jeffmedkeff

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Reference to Hate Group Publication
References included reference to "Shots Fired: Sam Francis on America's Culture War (Vienna, Virginia: Fitzgerald Griffin Foundation Books, 2006), pp. 162–164." Fitzgerald Griffin Foundation is listed as a hate group at http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp and Samuel T. Francis is listed in Wikipedia as "an anti-capitalist[1] paleoconservative columnist, nationally syndicated in America, known for his racialist views." Fixed. Basilwhite (talk) 11:44, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Zilphia Horton
Where does Zilphia Horton fit this picture: cites "(Dunaway, Seeger 222f)" (presumably David Dunaway's biography of Pete Seeger, How Can I Keep from Singing) "...Zilphia Horton (one of the founders of Highlander)..." That's a pretty solid book, so I would assume that she was, if not in the narrow sense a founder, something quite close. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:37, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)

Don West
links to the wrong Don West —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.60.176.216 (talk • contribs) 25 Oct 2005.
 * Fixed -- Jmabel | Talk 23:05, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Don West, Communist Party
According to the FBI, Don West was a member of the Communist Party. http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/hfschool.htm "The Highlander Folk School, located in Monteagle, TN, was founded by Don West, District Director of the Communist Party in North Carolina, and Miles Norton, Director of the Commonwealth College."

A good historical assessment of the Communist Party in the U.S. should include the fact that they were active in fighting segregation, and that the did so by having members like West teach people how to organize. And a good assessment of Highlander should point that out.

At any rate, it's true, and it's relevant, so it belongs in the article. --Nbauman (talk) 15:51, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

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Ultimate Six

Ultimate Six is a seven-issue comic book limited series and crossover between Spider-Man and the Ultimates (2003), featuring the Ultimate Marvel version of the Sinister Six. The series was written by Brian Michael Bendis, penciled by Trevor Hairsine and inked by Danny Miki.

Publication history
The story takes place after the events shown in Ultimate Spider-Man #46.

Plot summary
Electro wakes up from his three-week coma and goes on a rampage before being confronted by Captain America, Iron Man, and Black Widow. After appearing on TV, Kraven the Hunter and his lawyer are confronted by Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, Wasp, and Hawkeye to question him about his "enhancements". Hawkeye prevents Kraven from running off while Wasp disables the camera run by Kraven the Hunter's camera operator. The Ultimates detain the two villains in a maximum-security S.H.I.E.L.D. superhuman prison beneath the Triskelion along with Sandman, Doctor Octopus, and Green Goblin. As Hank Pym tries to get information from them during his interrogation on them, Nick Fury informs the five captives that they are detained because they have illegally altered their genetic code. Sharon Carter is having Kraven taken to his cell where he briefly assumes his gruesome and animalistic appearance that included fangs, claws, large muscles, big hands, and big feet before his inhibitor collar activates. Osborn is convinced that "There will be six" prisoners.

Pym continues his interrogation on the criminal. Osborn starts to turn into Green Goblin as Pym grows big to subdue him. Six weeks later, Pym gives a status report on his interrogation to Nick Fury and the rest of the Ultimates. Otto Octavius wants to cooperate with his captors and is granted access to a laboratory, where his metal tentacles are held. He wills his tentacles to attack and then shuts down the prison's power, releasing the others.

Iron Man investigates the ruins where he finds Pym injured and unconscious under some rubble which does not bode well for Wasp who goes to meet up with Iron Man. Nick Fury immediately sends agents to collect Peter Parker just in case Osborn goes after him. Fury introduces him to the Ultimates, who do not believe that Spider-Man is a teenager and reminds them that he has defeated all five escapees on his own. From a secret retreat, Norman Osborn places a call to Chief of Staff Stone in regard to Nick Fury.

Norman Osborn and his fellow villains take refuge in Kingpin's house in The Hamptons. The President chews out Nick Fury in regard to the call from Osborn who blackmails the government or he would publicize his treatment at the hands of S.H.I.E.L.D. Fury dispatches the Ultimates. After Doctor Octopus hacks into the Triskelion, the five escapees then attack the Triskelion. Nick Fury asks for the status of Bruce Banner and Magneto. A S.H.I.E.L.D. agent states that Magneto is still locked up.

S.H.I.E.L.D. takes Spider-Man's Aunt May into protective custody while Fury and the Ultimates pick up the pieces at the Triskelion. Nick Fury is informed by Iron Man that Banner fell asleep after reading some magazines where he'll be awake in three days and that Magneto nearly suffocated when his oxygen supply was cut off during the blackout until the back-up systems for it kicked in. The escaped villains have abducted Peter Parker who was in costume and unmasked. They tie him to a chair as Kraven assumes his animalistic form and attacks Peter for costing him his TV show and causing his wife to leave him. Otto subdues Kraven as Osborn reprimands Kraven while stating that he is the weakest of the group. Osborn then humiliates Peter by recounting the accident that created him as he claims that he and Otto were Peter's parents in a way while calling him "my boy". Osborn then tells Peter that they will attack the White House and he wants Peter to join them. Peter refuses and breaks free. Osborn then threatens Aunt May and Mary Jane if Peter does not join them. The six attack the White House, but a S.H.I.E.L.D. helicarrier arrives on the scene.

The six and the Ultimates battle it out on the White House lawn. Captain America tells Parker that his aunt is safe and he turns on the Green Goblin. Iron Man has S.H.I.E.L.D. Control upload a genetic code sequence to his armor which enables him to do a temporary genetic paralysis on Sandman, Wasp defeats Doctor Octopus, and Thor defeats Electro while also defeating Kraven before he can attack Spider-Man in the Oval Office. Goblin attacks Captain America when his son Harry appears on the lawn asking him to stop.

While Harry talks to his father, the Ultimates bring him down. Harry tells Peter that he will kill all of them for what they did to his father. All villains are detained again and Peter Parker is reunited with his Aunt. Electro claims that he was biding his time to attack Osborn, Kraven is strapped to the bed claiming that either Doctor Octopus and Green Goblin mind-controlled him, Sandman is placed in different jars, and Doctor Octopus is told that his tentacles are in a different facility. A doctor tells Wasp the status of her husband and to inform Nick Fury of when Pym wakes from his coma. With Norman Osborn in a cryogenic chamber with half of his face in Green Goblin form, Captain America and Nick Fury talk about how the next war will be a genetic war and that the people in power decide what the wars will be fought over.

Collected editions
The series has been collected into a trade paperback:

 * Ultimate Spider-Man Volume 9: Ultimate Six (collects Ultimate Six #1-7 and Ultimate Spider-Man #46, 208 pages, June 2004, ISBN 0-7851-1312-6)

As well as a larger hardcover which collects the trades Ultimate Spider-Man Volume 9: Ultimate Six and Ultimate Spider-Man Volume 10: Hollywood:

 * Ultimate Spider-Man Volume 5 (collects Ultimate Six #1-7 and Ultimate Spider-Man #46 and 54–59, hardcover, 352 pages, November 2004, ISBN 0-7851-1401-7)

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OfficeMax

OfficeMax is an American office supplies retailer founded in 1988. As an independent chain, it was the third-largest office supply retailer in the United States. Following a 2013 merger, it is currently a brand and subsidiary of Office Depot.

History
OfficeMax was founded in Cleveland on April 1, 1988, by Bob Hurwitz and Michael Feuer. Hurwitz served as executive chairman and chief executive officer, and Feuer was the president and chief operating officer. On July 5, 1988, OfficeMax opened its first retail store in the Golden Gate Shopping Center in Mayfield Heights, Ohio. Hurwitz left the company in 1993 and Feuer became the chairman and chief executive officer.

OfficeMax grew by acquisition with Office World first in November 1990, with Office World executive and Montgomery Ward becoming minority shareholders. In 1990, Office Square stores were purchased from Kmart, in exchange for a 22% equity stake. In 1991, Kmart increased its stake in OfficeMax to 92%. In January 1992, OfficeMax acquired five sites from Highland Superstores in Boston. OW Office Warehouse, a Virginia-based regional chain, was acquired on June 30, 1992. The company then acquired BizMart, its largest acquisition (104 stores) to date, in 1993 from Intelligent Electronics. On August 16, 1993, OfficeMax joined Kmart and most of the other Kmart-owned banners in the "largest power center" Kmart operated in Utica, Michigan. OfficeMax acquired a 19% stake in Corporate Express, a contract stationer. In May 1994, Kmart put a plan in front of its stockholders to sell 20% to 30% of each of its specialty store subsidiaries shares on the open market to pay down debt and fund future expansion of the subsidiaries. Kmart's shareholders turn down the proposal at their June 3 annual meeting. In November 1994, FurnitureMax store within a store concept begins testing in the Cleveland market. In 1995, Kmart sold off 51% of OfficeMax shares, spinning off the company and became a NYSE-(OMX) publicly traded corporation, based in Shaker Heights, Ohio.

Public corporation
In 1995, OfficeMax became one of a handful of companies doing business through internetMCI. Around this time Kmart sold the remaining 25% of the OfficeMax shares it held. On July 14, 1996, a new kiosk program called BatteryMax was test launched in two Phoenix stores. BatteryMax were operated by Batteries for Everything.

OfficeMax also filed lawsuits for infringement for use of the "Max" name against Med Max and Circuit City for CarMax, its used car business. For the next few years OfficeMax and its rivals, Staples and Office Depot, continued to open new stores, saturating the market segment.

OfficeMax developed regional delivery centers, and invested in its super-regional PowerMax distribution centers in Las Vegas, Nevada, Hazleton, Pennsylvania, and Birmingham, Alabama after litigation began with previous logistics and shipping provider.

A small sized store concept, OfficeMax PDQ, test was launched in Woodmere, Ohio, in late June 1998. By 2001, the chain operated 960 stores. That year, OfficeMax began closing underperforming stores in some neighborhoods and in regions where it did not have a strong presence. In 2003, OfficeMax was acquired by Boise Cascade Corporation for $1.3 billion. The following year, the combined company split into two: its wood and paper operations were acquired by Madison Dearborn Partners, and the remaining company adopted the OfficeMax name.

In December 2012, OfficeMax operated 941 stores in 47 states, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Mexico; that year, net sales were $6.9 billion, down from $8.3 billion in 2008.

Merger with Office Depot
It was announced on February 20, 2013, that OfficeMax and Office Depot would combine in an all-stock deal, creating the largest U.S. office-supplies chain. However, as of May 2, 2013, a lawsuit filed by a stockholder, Hollander v. OfficeMax Inc et al., U.S. District Court, Northern District of Illinois, No. 13-3330 was filed to block the merger, which would pay all OfficeMax shareholders 2.69 shares of Office Depot in exchange for a single share in OfficeMax. Eric Hollander said in a statement "OfficeMax, if properly exposed to the market for corporate control, would bring a price materially in excess of the amount offered in the proposed transaction..." Office Depot said on May 5, 2013, that it would hold a special meeting with shareholders after the staff of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission finished reviewing documents relating to its merger with OfficeMax.

The merger with Office Depot closed on November 5, 2013. On December 10, Office Depot, Inc. announced that it had chosen Boca Raton, Florida for its global headquarters post-merger, closing the OfficeMax headquarters in Naperville, Illinois.

Following the merger, the two chains integrated, though many retain the OfficeMax name. Some have since closed, while others rebranded as Office Depot following renovations. The first OfficeMax closed permanently on May 16, 2015.

New Zealand branch closures
On 26 August 2020, OfficeMax announced that it would be closing all 14 of its New Zealand branches and shift operations online in response to growing online usage and the COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand.

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Compression body

In the theory of 3-manifolds, a compression body is a kind of generalized handlebody.

A compression body is either a handlebody or the result of the following construction:

 * Let $$S$$ be a compact, closed surface (not necessarily connected).  Attach 1-handles to $$S \times [0,1]$$ along $$S \times \{1\}$$.

Let $$C$$ be a compression body. The negative boundary of C, denoted $$\partial_{-}C$$, is $$S \times \{0\}$$. (If $$C$$ is a handlebody then $$\partial_- C = \emptyset$$.) The positive boundary of C, denoted $$\partial_{+}C$$, is $$\partial C$$ minus the negative boundary.

There is a dual construction of compression bodies starting with a surface $$S$$ and attaching 2-handles to $$S \times \{0\}$$. In this case $$\partial_{+}C$$ is $$S \times \{1\}$$, and $$\partial_{-}C$$ is $$\partial C$$ minus the positive boundary.

Compression bodies often arise when manipulating Heegaard splittings.

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GOSH! Please swap his photo with another one. He's an actor and should be known as a more 'handsome' man. In that pic, he's at a religious ceremony, I REALLY dont find it true that people get pictured (and added to Wiki) while they're praying or something. Please add a better photo to Wiki Commons, please...--Rockermert hsm (talk) 20:20, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

fake source citation
This link was given in an edit comment. Look carefully, and at the bottom you'll see the note "The information on this page was used from wikipedia.org". Bzzzt!! Wikipedia cannot cite itself as a source. --Kbh3rd talk 04:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

His dad is a clown
Shouldnt someone say that his dad is a profesional clown??? But he was.

His dad was a clown, straight from Raviv's mouth: http://youtube.com/watch?v=GSFelIOl0oo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.154.96.152 (talk) 23:33, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

This is wrong information his dad was a clown for a little while but now his dad has a normal job.

Why is this article at Raviv Ullman?
His professional name is Ricky Ullman, that's what he's known as at imdb, that's what he's billed as when he performs. MoS calls for this to be at the best-known name, which is Ricky. If he has indicated that he's now known as Raviv, then please provide proof, otherwise, this should be moved. Corvus cornix talk  07:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

He only went by the name Ricky while he was on contract with Disney Channel. Now since he doesn't work for them he goes by Raviv. He says it all the time on talk shows and other times when he gwts interveiwed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rachtach123 (talk • contribs) 02:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

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Raviv Ullman → Ricky Ullman – Here at Wikipedia, we use stage names, better known as, etc. I Help, When I Can.[12] 01:04, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:List of missing Middle Eastern topics

This is a list of topics related to the Middle East which should be created for Wikipedia. Many of these topics were taken from the index to Walter Cleveland's A History of the Modern Middle East.

Middle Eastern articles which have been created, but still need substantial work, can be found within Category:Middle East stubs.

A-C

 * 1) Arab Executive (g, a9)
 * 2) A'yan (g, a9) - means "Arab leadership", especially relating to Palestine in 1929.
 * 3) Rafiq al-Azm (g, a9)
 * 4) Basic Law of Government (g, a9)
 * 5) The Beacon (g, a9) - It's not any of these, is it? Beacon (disambiguation)
 * 6) Charter for National Action (g, a9)
 * 7) Civil Service School (g, a9)
 * 8) Constitutional Reform Party (g, a9)
 * 9) Council of the Islamic Republic (g, a9)
 * 10) American University of Ras Al Khaimah

D-K

 * 1) Fadayan-i Khalq (g, a9) - I suppose this is the Aghan fighters mentioned in Khalq?
 * No, it's the Organization of Iranian People's Fedaian.
 * 1) February Fourth Incident (g, a9) - Which February 4 incident? France abolishing slavery in its colonies in 1794? Outbreak of revolution in Angola? Arafat chairing the PLO in 1969?
 * 2) * Probably refers to Miles Lampson, 1st Baron Killearn using british armor to install a Wafd prime minister in Egypt in 1942. Probably not worth an article just better coverage in existing articles.
 * 3) Five Feddan Law (g, a9)
 * 4) Jordan Inbound Tourism Association (, JITOA is a business association set up in 2003 to represent the interest of the inbound tour operators in Jordan.
 * 5) Dov Soll-holocaust survivor immigrated to israel became Israeli army engineer

L-Z

 * 1) Liberation Rally Party (g, a9)
 * 2) Reuven Pedatzur, a lecturer at the Department of Political Science at Tel Aviv University and a journalist.
 * 3) Mamad (ממ"ד) or apartmental protected space in Israel - double check?
 * 4) The Meaning of the Disaster (g, a9)
 * 5) Mixed courts (g, a9)
 * 6) The Mother of Cities (g, a9) Translation of Umm Al-Belaad, the Arabic name for Balkh,Afghanistan
 * 7) Al-Muayyad (g, a9) - The first Arabic journal, led by Refa'a Al Tahtawi.
 * 8) Muharram demonstrations (g, a9)
 * 9) al-Muqattam (g, a9) - also linked as Muqattam Mountain, the legend is described at Pope Abraham of Alexandria
 * 10) Mutasarrifiyyah (g, a9) - double check?
 * 11) Palestinian Media
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First Lady
Patsy only rarely resided in the President's house. Dolly Madison spent more time hosting for Jefferson, but Thomas himself performed the most work of this type during his presidency. This reference should be deleted. 173.57.26.204 (talk) 19:33, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Internal contradiction around 130 slaves?
"She attempted to keep enslaved people with their families when she could, and freed some slaves, but she kept many that she was forced to sell by creditors to settle outstanding debts.[2][34] For instance, in 1827, after her father's death, she sold 130 slaves. As a result, families were separated. The remaining enslaved people were her most valuable assets, and she hired them out when she could for income. She sold two more slaves in 1833.[2] . . . She inherited Monticello from her father in 1826, as well as his many debts. Her eldest son Thomas Randolph acted as executor of the estate. Except for five slaves freed in her father's will, and "giving her time" (informal emancipation) to Sally Hemings, they sold the remainder of the 130 slaves at Monticello to try to settle the debts."

So if, in 1827, Patsy sold 130 enslaved people from Monticello, and presumably that means the "remainder of *130* [enslaved] at Monticello," then who was being hired out and ultimately sold in 1833? Are these from the 8 people that TJ deeded her as a [human] wedding present? Vargob (talk) 23:53, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

First Lady
Category:First Ladies and Gentlemen of Virginia was removed from the article in this edit. She was the First lady of Virginia when her husband was governor of the state. So, I reverted that change.–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:23, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Readiness for Good Article status
Starting today or tomorrow, I will be working on the article to prepare it to be assessed for Good Article status, using this checklist (based upon WP:Good article criteria):

 * Meets MOS guidelines for sections, layout, lists, etc.
 * Clear, concise prose
 * Edit content for objective, encyclopedic tone and grammar
 * No unnecessary detail
 * Reliable, verifiable sources with good citation format.
 * No copyright violations of content or images
 * Sufficient illustrations with good captions

–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:18, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

 * I looked through the sources I've been using for writing first lady articles in case more information is needed. Unfortunately, most of them omit Jefferson because she wasn't a presidential spouse, but Presidential Wives has a chapter on her, and it's available to borrow online for free. I don't know how much there is to write about her or what's still needed, but there could be something useful there if necessary. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 20:52, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

 * No, wrong book. It's A Companion to First Ladies, which can be accessed with Wikipedia Library. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 21:00, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

 * Okay, great, thanks .–CaroleHenson (talk) 21:06, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Tracking status
Tracking status of GA prep, a work-in-progress, with comments and status indented below each of the bullets:
 * Meets MOS guidelines for sections, layout, lists, etc.
 * ✅ re: sections, layout–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:22, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * the only list in the article is for her twelve children. My take is that it would be hard to read in prose, even so, perhaps that would be better.–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:22, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

 * Clear, concise prose
 * Edit content for objective, encyclopedic tone and grammar
 * No unnecessary detail
 * Removed some trivia.
 * Comment: moving trivie or detailed info into notes.–CaroleHenson (talk) 17:04, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

 * Reliable, verifiable sources with good citation format.
 * No copyright violations of content or images
 * ✅ no copyright violations for images–CaroleHenson (talk) 04:43, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

 * Sufficient illustrations with good captions
 * ✅ improved captions, added citations, sufficient illustrations for the article–CaroleHenson (talk) 04:43, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

 * Expand intro–CaroleHenson (talk) 04:52, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * For a GA article, need more independent sources / books, including A Companion to First Ladies–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:00, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

This article needs serious revision.
This synopsis really misses the boat on Martha Jefferson Randolph. Some good historian, please rewrite it. 2600:100D:B042:7D2A:3C5B:D36A:CEC5:BA9E (talk) 20:10, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

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Danny Wuerffel

Daniel Carl Wuerffel (born May 27, 1974) is an American former football quarterback who played in the National Football League (NFL). He played college football for the Florida Gators, where he was a prolific passer under head coach Steve Spurrier. Wuerffel led the NCAA in touchdown passes in 1995 and 1996 and set numerous school and conference records during his career. During his senior year in 1996, he won the Heisman Trophy while leading the Gators to their first national championship. In 2013, he was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame.

After graduating from the University of Florida, he was selected in the 1997 NFL Draft by the New Orleans Saints. He spent six years in the league with four teams, including the Green Bay Packers, the Chicago Bears and the Washington Redskins, though his playing time and on-field success in the NFL was limited. Wuerffel also played one season in NFL Europe, where he led the Rhein Fire to a league championship in World Bowl 2000.

After retiring from professional football, Wuerffel returned to New Orleans to work with Desire Street Ministries, a nonprofit organization that seeks to help impoverished neighborhoods through spiritual and community development. Wuerffel had first become involved with the organization while playing for the Saints in the late 1990s, and as the organization attempted to recover from the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, he became its executive director. Under Wuerffel, Desire Street Ministries moved its headquarters to Atlanta and expanded its programs to other inner cities in the American South.

Early life
Wuerffel was born in Pensacola, Florida, in 1974, the son of a Lutheran minister who was a chaplain in the U.S. Air Force. While he was growing up, his family and he lived in South Carolina, Spain, Nebraska, and Colorado before he attended Fort Walton Beach High School in Fort Walton Beach, Florida.

Wuerffel was a standout high school football and basketball player for the Fort Walton Beach Vikings. In football, he led the Vikings to an undefeated season as a senior quarterback, while winning the Florida Class 4A state football championship in 1991 and earning the number two national ranking in USA Today. Wuerffel was widely considered the top high school football recruit in the state of Florida, and USA Today's high school player of the year in Florida during his senior year. He graduated from high school as his class co-valedictorian.

1993–1994
Wuerffel accepted an athletic scholarship to attend the University of Florida in Gainesville, Florida, where he played quarterback for head coach Steve Spurrier's Florida Gators football team from 1993 to 1996. One of the most decorated players in Florida's football history, he was a key member of the Gators teams that won four consecutive Southeastern Conference titles between 1993 and 1996. Wuerffel graduated from the university with a bachelor's degree in public relations, and was inducted into the University of Florida Athletic Hall of Fame as a "Gator Great" in 2006. On September 30, 2006, Wuerffel was inducted into the Gator Football Ring of Honor alongside his former coach Spurrier and two other former Gator players, Jack Youngblood and Emmitt Smith. Wuerffel was elected to the College Football Hall of Fame in 2013.

The 1993 season was the first in which the Gators were ranked in the AP top 10 every week. In the second week, quarterbacks Wuerffel and Terry Dean throw a total of seven interceptions against Kentucky. With eight seconds left, Wuerffel threw a pass down the middle to walk-on receiver Chris Doering for the game-winning touchdown; Gator play-by-play announcer Mick Hubert shouted, "Doering's got a touchdown!" The next week, Florida recovered and defeated Heath Shuler-led and fifth-ranked Tennessee 41–34 in a "shootout".

1995–1996
Wuerffel had split playing time with fellow quarterback Terry Dean for much of the 1993 and 1994 seasons. With Dean graduated, Wuerffel was the clear starter coming into the 1995 season, and he made the most of his opportunity. The Gators went through the regular season undefeated, and Wuerffel set several Southeastern Conference (SEC) and NCAA records for passing, including the SEC season record for touchdown passes and the NCAA record for passing efficiency. Highlights included a September win over rival Tennessee in which Florida rallied from a 30–14 deficit to win 62-37 behind Wuerffel's SEC record 6 touchdown passes. Sports Illustrated had sent a team of reporters to cover the top-10 matchup and had planned to put Tennessee quarterback Peyton Manning on the cover. However, after the Gators' win, they decided to put Wuerffel on the cover instead, bringing him his first major national attention.

He led the Gators to the Bowl Alliance National Championship game following the 1995 season, but ultimately lost 62–24 to the Nebraska Cornhuskers in the Fiesta Bowl. Wuerffel won the 1996 Heisman Trophy, as the outstanding college football player in America, while quarterbacking the Gators into their second consecutive Bowl Alliance national championship game with help from teammates Fred Taylor at running back; Reidel Anthony, Ike Hilliard, and Jacquez Green at wide receiver; and Jeff Mitchell on the offensive line. Wuerffel and the Gators won the 1996 national championship in decisive fashion by defeating the Florida State Seminoles 52–20 in the Sugar Bowl.

Individual awards and honors
Wuerffel was a first-team All-American in 1995, and a consensus first-team All-American in 1996. He received the Sammy Baugh Trophy in 1995, the Davey O'Brien Award in 1995 and 1996, and the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award in 1996, and was named the Quarterback of the Year by the Touchdown Club of Columbus in 1996. Wuerffel declined to be included on Playboy magazine's All-America team as well as its Scholar-Athlete of the Year award, saying, "That's not the type of person I am or would like to portray myself as." His Gators teammates picked him as the squad's most valuable player in 1995 and 1996; his coaches chose him as one of the Gators' team captains. He was later named to The Gainesville Sun's Florida Gators Team of the Century in 1999, was chosen by the Sun as the number one player in the first 100 years of Gators football, and was listed as a member of the Florida Gators 100th Anniversary Team in 2006.

He is one of only two Heisman Trophy winners to also receive the Draddy Trophy, which is presented annually by the National Football Foundation and the College Football Hall of Fame to the nation's top football scholar-athlete. Wuerffel was also a first-team Academic All-American in 1995 and 1996.

He finished his Gator career by completing 708 of 1,170 passes for 10,875 yards with 114 touchdown passes, the best in SEC history and second-most in major college history. His career pass efficiency rating of 163.56 was the best in major college history and his percentage of passes which went for a touchdown (9.74) ranked first in collegiate history. In 1995, his efficiency rating of 178.4 set a single-season collegiate record. During his Heisman-winning season of 1996, he completed 207 of 360 passes for 3,625 yards (an SEC record at the time) for 39 touchdowns (leading the nation) and his efficiency rating of 170.6 made him the first quarterback to ever post a rating of 170 or better in back-to-back years.

Professional career
Wuerffel was considered a "marginal" prospect for the 1997 NFL Draft. As such, the New Orleans Saints selected Wuerffel in the fourth round of the 1997 NFL Draft as the third quarterback selected in the draft. He was selected to potentially serve as the number three quarterback, as the team already had Heath Shuler and Jim Everett on the roster under new head coach Mike Ditka. He played for the Saints for three seasons from 1997 to 1999. Wuerffel spent the offseason before the 2000 NFL season with the Rhein Fire in NFL Europa, where he led the team to a league championship and was named MVP of World Bowl 2000. He spent single seasons as a backup with the Green Bay Packers and Chicago Bears in 2000 and 2001. Wuerffel was drafted by the Houston Texans in the 2002 NFL Expansion Draft, only to be traded to the Washington Redskins a week later, reuniting him with college coach Steve Spurrier. Wuerffel started several games that season, alternating with fellow Florida Gator alumnus Shane Matthews, but was released by the team before the 2003 season, much to the chagrin of Spurrier.

After not being signed by another team in 2003, Wuerffel decided to retire from professional football in February 2004.

Personal life
Wuerffel began work at Desire Street Ministries, a nonprofit, faith-based organization focusing on spiritual and community development in areas of New Orleans.

The All Sports Association of Fort Walton Beach created the Wuerffel Trophy in his honor in 2005. Florida sculptor W. Stanley Proctor created the design which commemorates Danny Wuerffel, "as he prays after a touchdown. It is awarded annually by the All Sports Association of Fort Walton Beach, Florida to the athlete who best exemplifies Wuerffel's character on the field of play and in the classroom.

In June 2011, The Gainesville Sun reported that Wuerffel was suffering from Guillain–Barré syndrome, a disorder of the nervous system, and was undergoing treatment for it.

In 2014, Emerald Bay Country Club in Destin, Florida, hosted the 1st Annual Danny Wuerffel Golf Classic, known as the "Danny Cup". A small stretch of road between the Mid-Bay Bridge and Highway 98 in Destin, still his parents' home, has been dedicated as "Danny Wuerffel Way" by the Florida state legislature.

Wuerffel is currently a motivational speaker, executive director of Desire Street Ministries and maintains a personal website at dannywuerffel.com.

Before the Pickleball craze hit the US, Wuerffel was one of the first celebrity players trying to grow the game. In 2022, Wuerffel  hosted his first Picklebowl tournament, a play on the Super Bowl, the event is a Celebrity Pro–am , where a Professional  plays with celebrity from their Alma mater. In the first event ever Wuerffel and his teammate Kyle Yates, who was a former UF tennis player, won  the event. Yates and Wuerffel successfully defended their Picklebowl title in 2023 in Atlanta at the Intercollegiate Tennis Association

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Quonset hut

A Quonset hut is a lightweight prefabricated structure of corrugated galvanized steel with a semi-circular cross-section. The design was developed in the United States based on the Nissen hut introduced by the British during World War I. Hundreds of thousands were produced during World War II, and military surplus was sold to the public. The name comes from the site of their first deployment at Quonset Point at the Davisville Naval Construction Battalion Center in Davisville, Rhode Island.

Design and history
The first Quonset huts were manufactured in 1941 when the United States Navy needed an all-purpose, lightweight building that could be shipped anywhere and assembled without skilled labor. The George A. Fuller construction company manufactured them, and the first was produced within 60 days of signing the contract. In 1946, the Great Lakes Steel Corporation claimed "the term 'Quonset,' as applied to builders and building materials, is a trade mark owned by the Great Lakes Steel Corporation." But the word is often used generically. Today similar structures are made by many contractors in countries around the world.

The original design was a 16 x structure framed with steel members with an 8 ft radius. The most common design created a standard size of 20 x with a 16 ft radius, allowing 960 sqft of usable floor space with optional 4 ft overhangs at each end for protection of entrances from the weather. Other sizes were developed, including 20 x and 40 x warehouse models.

The sides were corrugated steel sheets, and the two ends were covered with plywood which had doors and windows. The interior was insulated and had pressed wood lining and a wood floor. The building could be placed on concrete, on pilings, or directly on the ground with a wood floor. The original design used low-grade steel, which was later replaced by a more rust-resistant version. The flexible interior space was open, allowing use as barracks, latrines, medical and dental offices, isolation wards, housing, and bakeries.

Between 150,000 and 170,000 Quonset huts were manufactured during World War II, and the military sold its surplus huts to the public after the war. Many remain standing throughout the United States as outbuildings, businesses, or even homes, and they are often seen at military museums and other places featuring World War II memorabilia. Many were also used around the United States for temporary postwar housing, such as Rodger Young Village for veterans and their families in Los Angeles, California, and the Quonset Park complex of married student housing at the University of Iowa. Some are still in active use at United States military bases. The U.S. Department of Energy continues to utilize Quonset huts as supporting structures (fabrication and machine shops, warehouses, etc.) at the Nevada National Security Site.

Gallery
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No Borders Here

No Borders Here is the second album (and first to be available outside Canada) by Jane Siberry.

The album's single "Mimi on the Beach" was Siberry's breakthrough hit in her native Canada, and remains one of her most famous songs. Toronto's CFNY was the first radio station in Canada to recognize the song's hit potential. The song's video was also one of the first influential clips on MuchMusic.

Track listing
All songs by Jane Siberry, except "Extra Executives" (music co-written by John Switzer).

Side one

 * 1) "The Waitress" – 2:25
 * 2) "I Muse Aloud" – 4:11
 * 3) "Dancing Class" – 6:41
 * 4) "Extra Executives" – 4:26
 * 5) "You Don't Need" – 4:25

Side two

 * 1) "Symmetry (The Way Things Have to Be)" – 4:57
 * 2) "Follow Me" – 4:19
 * 3) "Mimi on the Beach" – 7:35
 * 4) "Map of the World, Pt. 1" – 3:33

Personnel

 * Jane Siberry – guitar, keyboards, vocals
 * Al Cross – drums, percussion, LinnDrum
 * Ken Myhr – guitar
 * John Switzer – bass, percussion
 * Additional personnel
 * Jon Goldsmith – keyboards
 * Doug Wilde – keyboards
 * Rob Yale – Fairlight CMI programming

Chart positions

 * RPM - 68

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Samuel Butman

Samuel Butman (April 30, 1788 – October 9, 1864) was an American politician from the U.S. state of Maine. A farmer and War of 1812 veteran, Butman served in the Maine State House before entering the U.S. House of Representatives, where he represented Maine's seventh congressional district. Late in life he entered the Maine State Senate, where he served as the chamber's president.

Butman was born in Worcester, Massachusetts, on April 30, 1788. His family moved to Dixmont in present-day Maine (then a region of Massachusetts) in 1805. There his father, an American Revolutionary War veteran, worked as a farmer.

During the War of 1812, Butman served as captain of a militia company that participated in the ill-fated Battle of Hampden. In 1820, he attended the state constitutional convention. Two years later, in 1822, he was elected to the Maine State House, and served that year and from 1826 to 1827. Butman left the state legislature to serve in the 20th and 21st Congresses (March 4, 1827 – March 3, 1831) in the U.S. House of Representatives as a representative of Maine's seventh district.

In 1846, Butman was county commissioner of Penobscot County. He served in the State Senate and was its president in 1853. He died in Plymouth, Maine, on October 9, 1864.

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Talk:Doug Flutie

WORKING FOR ESPN?!?!?!?!?!
I'm surprised there's nothing about his work for ESPN as an announcer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.97.154 (talk) 02:43, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Metrowest Medical Center
The article calls it "Framingham's Metrowest Medical Center", but it is Natick and Framingham's. There were two hospitals -- Leonard Morse, in Natick, and Framingham Union, in Framingham. Leonard Morse was owned, by the will of Mary Ann Morse, by the townspeople of Natick. Through much skullduggery (why would you say we in Natick are still bitter?!), the will was broken, and the two hospitals were merged, and bought by a company. They became "Metrowest Medical Center, Leonard Morse Campus", and "Metrowest Medical Center, Framingham Union Campus". I've edited the article just to change it to "Natick/Framingham's Metrowest Medical Center".

Acter (talk) 08:20, 5 May 2009 (UTC)Acter

It may be time to pull the "Flutie Flakes" link, apparently either the product or at least the website is now defunct. Rlquall 05:50, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

red t-shirt
Can anyone add a sentence or two on the red t-shirt that Doug always wears under his football uniform?

I don't know if it is related - but Doug Flutie grew up in Natick, Massachusetts and graduated from Natick High School. Natick High School's team name is the Redmen and the town slogan is, "home of champions" - of which Doug Flutie is just one. Nonetheless, all this is to say that Natick's color is red - so perhaps this is an old high school jersey.

I had seen one of these "human interest" type stories quite a few years ago about doug and the t-shirt that went something like: it was his older brother's high school shirt, and his brother died in an auto accident, so Doug wears it every game to remember him. But I can't find any evidence to back up my story. That is erroneus, Doug did not lose an older brother. He has 1 older sister, Denise, an older brother, Bill, and a younger brother, Darren. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.191.226.74 (talk) 14:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

 * I tried to incorporate this info in the Bio section.

 * Both of Flutie's brothers are still alive. That story would make a good country western song, but no.

is it true doug flutie is of arab descent?

 * Yes, I added this information as well. Here are a few sources:

 * http://www.aaiusa.org/arab-americans/23/famous-arab-americans

 * http://www.playfootball.com/be_a_player/meet/doug/doug_week5.html

Rhodes Scholarship nomination at BC
Here's the citation for Flutie's Rhodes nomination and some other aspects of his BC career:

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/bc/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/flutie-ruth.pdf

 * I clarified this in the article. It's true that BC nominated Flutie for the Rhodes, but he was not named a Rhodes finalist. A school can name anyone they want, but his candidacy did not go beyond that.

drop kick
i think it's a little too early to say that the Patriots' last regular season game this year is the last game of his professional career. first of all, I haven't heard him say that he's retiring, and second, the patriots are in the playoffs, and if anything happens to Tom Brady, as far as I know, Flutie will be playing, since he is the backup QB.--Alhutch 22:05, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
 * He needs Brady and Cassel to get hurt. That's probably why Cassel played today. I also believe that that was edited already. Jjjsixsix 06:04, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd lay odds that if Brady got hurt, they'd put Flutie in during the playoffs rather than Cassel. Just a thought. -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 06:09, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Top 10 Scrambling QB's
What?? Flute #10 ?? He should be higher than that. I was hoping I would see a mention of Tracy Ham (how many QB's in the NFL lead the league in rushing) or Damon Allen in the top 10. It is like making a hockey list of the top 10 best passing teams in history and forgetting teams from the Soviet Union. Stettlerj 03:54, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Flutie's Future
I didn't put this in as a reference on the page, since (unless you're a paid member) KFFL only displays most recent information, but if anybody wants to check my info, etc: KFFL info on Flutie -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 03:03, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Arab-American
There is no way flutie is arab-american...look at how white he is and his name! Do you know any arab-americans named Douglas Richard Flutie? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.152.115.2 (talk • contribs).
 * Yes, oddly enough. He's a former professional quarterback.  Powers T 19:53, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Most Arab Americans are Christians, and yes, they are White. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PassTheYouth (talk • contribs) 18:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Arab-Americans are Semitic not "White". With respect to Flutie's name and complexion, that has little to do with respect to him being an Arab-America or not --209.163.173.127 (talk) 15:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't care about our ancestry, what I know is that on government forms and by all people I've met, I as a Lebanese American am classified as White. And to guy who asked, there are plenty of Arabs with the name Douglas, and Frank, and John, and Bill, and all the anglo names you can think of. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LebanonIsCool (talk • contribs) 19:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

You choose to check off white because that is how you self-identify. What means caucasian; Arabs are not caucasian. --209.163.173.127 (talk) 13:00, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Autism
Nobody's going to rename autism Flutie Disease or any such thing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.65.56.48 (talk • contribs).
 * No. And? Powers T 01:34, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

uh, "Caucasian" ?
I don't know what the Wikipedia policy on this is, but is the quaint term "Caucasian" standard usage here to refer to a white person? Would "white player" be objectionable? "Caucasian" carries a more than a whiff of dated racial pseudo-scientism, imo, and it's fading fast in ordinary usage, at least in North America.

I Protest
I don't race should have anything to do with football awards. describing him as white is not needed. Why don't we say he was the first brown eyed player to win it in five years, for instance?

 * I agree that race should not be mentioned since he is white. However, note that nearly every time a black person is the "first" to win whatever (or puerto-rican or whatever) it is mentioned in Wikipedia. There is an inconsistency here. People will say it's okay for "minorities" to do this, but separately claim that we are about to become a nation of minorities. The article is fine with me without the mention, but this needs to be discussed in a higher context in Wikipedia. Either "firsts" or other uniquenesses are mentioned for everybody or they aren't. If they aren't, this is going to eliminate a lot of "first black attendees" category (for example). Student7 14:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

CFL stats
Flutie was recently voted the #1 player in CFL history (see TSN Top 50 CFL Players). We need to include his CFL stats in the recently added NFL-retired infobox, or use a different infobox. heqs ·:. 07:49, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 14:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot (talk) 18:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

stats
I accidently changed the stats to something, else, shorter. I was borrowing the template, edited it on fluties page, and was going to transfer it, but i accidently hit save, I have changed it back though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportyguy03 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Flutie Pass, Natick Mall, Natick (or Framingham), MA
I'm not a local so I don't have all the details but I hope others can make this "article worthy". Just behind the Natick Mall (in Natick or Framingham, MA), is a little connector road called "Flutie Pass". It is kind of a little passageway from the Natick Mall to the next mall to the west which I think is called "Shoppers World". For those of you who know the little traffic circle behind the mall, the east-side road is Natick Mall Road, the north-south road is Dean Road and the road west to Shoppers World is Flutie Pass. (And remember: traffic already IN the circle has the right of way. If you're IN the circle, keep driving, don't stop.  If you're approaching the circle, yield to the cars IN the circle and enter when traffic is clear.)

To help others find Flutie Pass: Hail Flutie, Flutie Effect, Flutie Flakes, etc. have their own entries. Do you think "Flutie Pass" deserves an entry as some sort of Civil Engineering / Traffic Management / Doug Flutie thing? I hope someone can at least insert a properly researched story of Flutie Pass into the main article on Doug Flutie. AdderUser (talk) 05:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) maps.yahoo.com doesn't find Flutie Pass, so enter "1350 Worcester Rd., Natick, MA" (Worcester Rd. is better known to locals as Route 9).  Zoom in and you can see the next road to the north is "Flutie Pass".  You might also see "Natick Mall" as a big splotch along Route 9.
 * 2) maps.google.com does find "1 Flutie Pass, Framingham, MA", so that's easy.  Here's the google link.
 * 3) Here's the movie theater at 22A Flutie Pass, via MapQuest.

Born in Manchester or Catonsville?
I know it's not a huge detail, but it says he was born in Catonsville in his bio, but on the right it says Manchester, which are not near each other at all, and in different counties. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leighlewis (talk • contribs) 09:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

New Image
Can someone change the image of Flutie? I think a BC image or other football one is more relevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.159.66.57 (talk) 19:23, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, if you find us a freely licensed image that fits those criteria. Powers T 13:06, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Oldest player to score a touchdown
This fact is incorrect. I have found at least two players that were older than Flutie that scored a touchdown. Warren Moon scored a touchdown at the age of 43 years and 338 days in 2000. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MoonWa00/gamelog//

George Blanda was 47 years and 88 days when he threw a touchdown in 1974. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BlanGe00/gamelog//

This record obviously belongs to Blanda as no one else played to the age of 47 except kicker Morten Anderson, who obviously did not score a touchdown that season (2007)

Bobby Marshall played two games in 1925 and may have scored a touchdown but records are incomplete from those days. He turned 45 that year.

Flutie is credited as breaking Jerry Rice's record, this, as a result is also incorrect and should be removed from his page as well if it exists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flea82 (talk • contribs) 17:53, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

1995 CFL footnote
Even though I fixed the asterisk formatting, I do not understand the footnote on the 1995 "games" in the statistics table. The "games" column is for games played in, not games dressed for. In several other seasons, there were games in which Flutie was on the sidelines but did not play. (And according to the CFL itself, Flutie played in 12 games that season, as noted here.)  → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 07:06, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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