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Talk:List of James Bond vehicles

Disco Volante
Didn't see a place to put this. Disco Volante does not mean flying saucer. Disco back then would have meant a collection of records from the French meaning. Volante means wheel, or steering wheel, but most likely wheel. Together they effectively mean record player. Frankly, so tired of so many self proclaimed Bond experts just writing whatever crap they want and saying that's the answer. But I digress. It was General MacArthur's disc jockey station... seriously that is what is referring to. If you don't understand then too bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.202.47 (talk) 21:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Organized by film?
Should this page be organized by film? The problem right now is that a lot of information has been copied over from the individual Bond movie articles. If an error is found there it means theres a good chance theres an error here too. My current feelings are that under the "Vehicles and gadget" sections of the individual movies there should be a link to the List of James Bond vehicles instead. (This goes for List of James Bond gadgets as well, which is organized by film). Another alternative is just to list the vehicle without description here and allow the individual pages to describe the vehicle K1Bond007 03:05, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * I concur. This should be listed by film. There will be a little repetition, but not that much. 23skidoo 23:53, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Die Another Day
What's the car model Bond drives in Cuba in Die Another Day? Even though it isn't official MI6 issue, it's still a Bond car, and a rather cool one at that. (Actually, since the MI6 sleeper agent lends it to Bond, I think it can be legitimately described as an agency vehicle, come to think of it.) 23skidoo 23:53, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Ford Fairlane - owned by Raoul. K1Bond007 03:18, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * Duly added. Many thanks! 23skidoo 03:39, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Are all vehicles to be listed
Someone just added the make of vehicle for the police cars chasing Bond's bus in Live and Let Die. And I noticed the car Jaws drives in Spy Who Loved Me is also listed. Before I delete anything, is the intent to list every vehicle in the movies, or are we just sticking to the vehicles physically handled by James Bond? If we're expanding beyond, there are a number of other applicable vehicles that could be added such as Goldfinger's Rolls Royce, the car Aki drives in You Only Live Twice, Jinx's car in Die Another Day, etc. 23skidoo 01:10, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * When I created the article the intent was for only "James Bond vehicles" meaning driven by Bond, vehicles marketed as a Bond vehicle (ex:Zao's Jag and Jinx Thunderbird), or notable vehicles such as Goldfinger's Rolls - something along those lines. Adding other vehicles like the police cars is way too much information that most people that read this article won't even care about. What really needs to happen is for this list to be broken up into films instead of make. It'd be one thing if he drove only Aston Martins, BMWs and Bentleys, but that's not so and after 20+ films it makes this list rather hard to read. K1Bond007 02:51, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)

Aston Martin DB3
While I completely believe that Fleming called it a DB3, there actually was no such car. There were three series of Aston Martin DB2: The original, the Aston Martin DB2/4, which might be called the DB2 Mark II but wasn't, and the Aston Martin DB Mark III, which could have been called the DB3 but wasn't.  The next car was the Aston Martin DB4. According to AstonMartins.com, an excellent reference, it was really a DB Mark III whether Fleming called it that or not. But no matter, we should leave it as "DB3" here because that's what the man wanted, and redirect it to DB Mark III since that's the real car. --SFoskett 12:18, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

 * I must correct myself. There was an Aston Martin DB3.  It was a racing car (see here) and as such is unlikely to have been driven around Switzerland by Mr. Bond.  I stand by my contention that, while Fleming said it was a DB3, he meant a DB Mark III.  --SFoskett 13:24, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * If this can be confirmed as an error on Fleming's part (as opposed to, say, vernacular of the time), maybe this can be acknowledged in a footnote and/or a trivia item in the applicable book article. 23skidoo 13:38, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * But that is what was stated. We can't assume he was refering to the DB Mark III. Perhaps he assumed that there would have been a real DB3 like there was a 4 and 5. I'll look into this more to see if this is a confirmed mistake by Fleming. I'm sure someone knows one way or the other. K1Bond007 17:35, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

 * There are a few references on the web to this "mistake". here's one, for example.  Can someone look in the book itself and see if Fleming calls it a "DB3" or "DBIII"?  The latter lends credence to the idea that it was a DB Mark III.  Other clues are the number of seats (no DB3 or DB3S would have had four) and the date of writing (the DB Mark III came out in 1957, the DB3 in 1951 and was passe by 1956).  --SFoskett 18:20, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

 * Here's a pretty definitive answer: The book, Hollywood TV and Movie Cars specifically states that the car was a DB Mark III.  Search google for "book db mkiii golfdinger" and you'll be able to read the page.  --SFoskett 18:37, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't really see how that is definitive; however, I have seen a few websites that claim it was a DB Mark III so I will concede for the time being. K1Bond007 20:33, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * I think your edit is a nice way of wording it. The Goldfinger book says "DB3" then?  I agree that some fan site or book isn't definitive - wrong word on my part.  Only Mr. Fleming could describe it definitively.  However, what about those other items - Is the car ever described as having a back seat?  And what year was he writing the book? --SFoskett 21:40, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * The book was published in '59 so it was probably written in either 57 or 58. Most fansites of the novels would tell you the book occurred between May and June 1957. Since it's been a while since I've read it and I don't own the book I can't confirm this. I don't recall the car having a backseat or it being mentioned. I do recall it being mentioned as the "DB3" not "DB III". I'm sure Fleming talks about the engine in the car too, but I wouldn't use this to determine which is which since Fleming almost always claims the engine was reworked to add this or that (such as the superchargers for all Bond's Bentleys). K1Bond007 22:06, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

I checked the book - it's "DB III". It's even in a chapter title. Anyway, such clues as there are: So there's no definitive proof. But I feel confident that when Fleming wrote "DB III", he meant "DB Mark III" not "DB3". --SFoskett 22:01, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * It's called "DB III". This could lean either way, but I think it is more likely that Fleming would have written "DB3" if he meant the racer.
 * It's offered to Bond along with a "Jaguar 3.4". That was a fashionable, quick, saloon introduced in 1957, as was the DB Mark III.  If he wanted to place Commander Bond in a racer, he would have instead selected a Jaguar D-Type to which the DB3 racer was an archrival.
 * There is no mention of a back seat (that I saw) but it does specify that Jill locks her bag "in the back" next to Bond's suitcase - this means it has a locking boot. Sounds more like a saloon than a racer.
 * It also doesn't specify that it's a coupe, though there is not the merest indication that it lacks a roof, as do nearly all DB3 and DB3S cars. There were some enclosed coupes (2 for in-house and 3 for customer racing) but I doubt Fleming knew his Astons this well...
 * Finally, there's the date. The DB Mark III was a new, hot car on the market when the book was written and set, 1957, as was the Jaguar 3.4.  The DB3 was introduced in 1951 and ended production in 1957.  The Aston Martin DBR1 was the racing car from the company by 1957, while the DB3S was a has-been.  I can't see Fleming placing Bond in an outmoded racer.
 * Probably depends on the edition of the book because I know mine said DB3. It doesn't matter though. You're probably right and the edit made yesterday at least tells why it's Mark III and not the DB3. So I'm good with how it is. K1Bond007 22:26, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

I'm no car expert, but I'm watching GoldenEye right now and that sure looks like an Aston Martin Bond is driving in the opening race with the Ferrari. Neither car is mentioned on this page. Can someone confirm or refute? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Texastriviaguy (talk • contribs) 03:40, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

The Living Daylights
this car is a Series 2 V8 Vantage. It is identifiable as a V8 Vantage by the closed-off hood bulge and as a Series 2 by the location of the turn signal lights. It's an appropriate Bond car, too. --SFoskett July 1, 2005 13:28 (UTC)

 * Astonmartins.com actually has a thorough investigation of this car (actually three cars). It was supposed to be a Series 2 V8 Vantage Volante, as seen at the beginning.  However, the later scenes were filmed with a pair of non-Vantage Series 2 V8 saloons.  I have updated these car pages with more details.  But for the sake of this page, let's just say it was a V8 Vantage Volante, since that's what it was supposed to be.  --SFoskett 22:38, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

I may be wrong, but I think the British Intelligence Audi 200 sedan is actually an Audi V8. Haven't seen the film for ages but distinctly remember wondering what sort of Audi it was when I first watched the movie as it wasn't available in the UK at that time (or ever, IIRC). Davesquirrel (talk) 05:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

can you place this car?
This image is about to be deleted. If someone can place it in this article, it will be kept.-- t -bte288- c 19:29, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

another glider
I know that James uses a glider to land on an island. The "glider" was disposable and had short wings. It looked similar to the underwater propulsion devices scuba divers use. Could you help place this?

Tomorrow Never Dies
Blah, scratch that. I just presumed it was a Russian plane and looked right past the entry of it. Joffeloff 18:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

One vehicle missing
I'm trying to think if there are any vehicles missing from the list. The only one I can think of is the car driven by David Niven's James Bond in the 1967 Casino Royale. The car's main scene is the chase sequence after McTarry castle. I believe it had some gadgets, but I can't recall for sure. And I don't know enough about cars to make a guess as to the make and model. Since we're including the unofficial films, should we include the bicycle Bond rides in Never Say Never Again? ;-) 23skidoo 23:08, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The only pictures I could find of it online (in a brief Google-only search) were here and don't show enough detail. I seem to vaguely remember, however, that it was a Lagonda (but not the model pictured in that Lagonda article). From the pictures on the external site though, it could just as easily be a Bentley – which would be in-keeping with the novels. – Kieran T  ( talk  16:40, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Watched it again last night. My memory of it being a Lagonda must come from somewhere else! The scene I'd imagined remembering, with a Lagonda badge clearly visible, wasn't there. So, based on the shape of the radiator, I'd have to say it looks more like a Bentley. But I'm by no means sure enough to put it into the article, sorry. – Kieran T  ( talk  16:28, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Why tables?
This article was once one of my favourites, both in layout and content. The change to tables have, IMO, not helped it at all. This is made worse by the fact that whoever started the conversion appears to have given up half way through. I'd like to see it reverted to the old style, eg. —Moondyne 02:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

films vs novels
is this page covering both? if so it needs some editing--— Typ932 T  23:50, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Bentley
The Bentley section is a bit of a mess - actually, the whole article's pretty crud, but the Bentley section is particularly bad - so I started drafting a rewrite here. It ended up being a bit long and I'm not sure if there mightn't be a bit of original research in there too, but I thought I'd mention the link anyway Opera hat (talk) 02:50, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone else far knowledgeable than I has quotably expounded similiarly here: vide. Opera hat (talk) 21:54, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

which clever person wants to list what is probably the only missing category of vehicles (or two categories)...ships and submarines. Why not start with the royal Navy...HMS Fearless, Assault shipp...The Spy Who Loved Me not to mention the three nuclear subs and Stromberg's tanker from the same film..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.132.132 (talk) 14:16, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Skyfall and Land Rover
I don't really reside on wikipedia, but was there not a Land Rover Discovery LR4 police unit used by the main antagonist when proceeding to the enquiry and when escaping the enquiry also? 82.132.138.158 (talk) 16:19, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Rename needed
It's really disappointing that there does not seem to be a concise article which lists the cars Bond drove on Wikipedia. Obviously the information is held in this article, but I couldn't make any sense of it - it feels like you need to know what film or car you are looking for in advance.

This article should be renamed "List of vehicles that appear in James Bond films". We then need another article which identifies the vehicles specifically driven by Bond (or in which Bond was a passenger, clearly indicated), and ordered by film. Manning (talk) 23:26, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Reorganisation proposal
I would like to propose merging the "Road Vehicles" tables into a single table. I think it would be more reader-friendly to view in one place all of the cars used in each film. For example, if one wants to see all of the cars from Thunderball, one has to check each separate manufacturer table to see if there are any vehicles there. Additionally, this would get rid of the rather messy bullet list at the end of the section.

Also, I think it would be valuable to create a separate section for vehicles from the novels. At present they are randomly interspersed throughout the article.

Tomorrow Never dies Motorcycle
The BMW motorcycle that James Bond and Wai Lin drives together in Tomorrow Never Dies is not included in this list ... Why ?

Mortyman (talk) 22:54, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Lost some
Looks like this edit lost some vehicles. // Liftarn (talk) 07:15, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

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John Thorn

John Abraham Thorn (born April 17, 1947) is a German-born American sports historian, author, and publisher. Since 2011, he has served as the Official Baseball Historian for Major League Baseball.

Early life
Thorn was born in Stuttgart, Germany, in a displaced person's camp to which his Polish Jewish parents had come as refugees. Less than two years after Thorn was born, his family emigrated to the United States, and initially settled in The Bronx, New York.

Of his love for baseball, Thorn said: "I fell in love with [baseball] cards before I loved the game, when I discovered that baseball was something that all the kids on my street corner cared about... I was an immigrant kid and was looking for a way into America. With my background I saw myself as an underdog, and so Brooklyn had to be my team. I began watching the game seriously when I was eight, in 1955, on my Admiral television, but I had already begun to follow their exploits in the daily newspapers my father brought home with him each night."

As a teen, he played baseball and basketball at Richmond Hill High School. However, at age 19 he suffered a stroke. "It was severe," he said, "knocking out my left-side function for months as well as patches of personal memory — though not the powerful visual memory I retain for images and facts and statistics." The stroke left him with a limp and precluded his further participation in athletic activities.

Thorn attended Beloit College, from which he graduated in 1968.

Writings
Thorn is the author and editor of numerous books, including Total Baseball: The Official Encyclopedia of Major League Baseball, Total Football: The Official Encyclopedia of Major League Football, Treasures of the Baseball Hall of Fame, The Hidden Game of Baseball, The Glory Days: New York Baseball 1947–1957, and The Armchair Book of Baseball. His 2011 book, Baseball in the Garden of Eden: The Secret History of the Early Game, published by Simon & Schuster, was an in-depth chronicle of the seminal development and pioneers of the sport. A New York Times review of the latter book referred to Thorn as "a researcher of colossal diligence."

Thorn is also the co-author with Pete Palmer and Bob Carroll of The Hidden Game of Football and with them co-editors of Total Football. His book New York 400, a graphic history of the city timed for its quadricentennial, created with the Museum of the City of New York and Running Press, was published in September 2009. Thorn is a columnist for Voices, the publication of the New York Folklore Society.

He founded Total Sports Publishing and served as its publisher from 1998 to 2002.

Role as historian
Thorn served as the senior creative consultant for the 1994 Ken Burns documentary Baseball.

In 2004, Thorn discovered documentation tracing the origins of baseball in America to 1791 in Pittsfield, Massachusetts. He has also attempted to shed light on the contributions of 19th century pioneers of the game, while debunking common misconceptions. "I don't want anyone to think of me as a crusader on behalf of causes," he wrote. "I'm only interested in setting the story straight, and in recognizing other stories for what they are, some of which are legend." Despite the claims of various localities to being the "birthplace of baseball," Thorn simply follows facts. "Abner Doubleday, Santa Claus, and Dracula," he notes, "are equally mythic figures."

In June 2006, the Society for American Baseball Research (SABR) bestowed on Thorn its highest accolade, the Bob Davids Award. The award honors those whose contributions to SABR and baseball reflect the ingenuity, integrity, and self-sacrifice of the late founder and past president of SABR, L. Robert "Bob" Davids.

On March 1, 2011, John Thorn was named Official Baseball Historian for Major League Baseball, succeeding the late Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun-Times baseball writer Jerome Holtzman, who served in the role from 1999 until his death in 2008.

Thorn played an important role in the retroactive recategorization of the defunct Negro leagues, which existed during the segregation of baseball, as major leagues. On May 28, 2024, Major League Baseball said that statistics from the Negro Leagues will officially become part of the MLB's historical record.

Personal life
Thorn has three sons from two previous marriages. He is currently married to Erica Freudenberger, former director of the Red Hook Public Library in Red Hook, New York, and who is currently affiliated with the Southern Adirondack Library System.

He and his wife live in Catskill, New York where they moved in 2010. He claims to have been drawn to the town because of its "slow pace," which suits him because, as Thorn asserts, "I pride myself on being the world's most boring man."

Thorn's great-grandfather was magician Ernest Thorn; the two share their middle name "Abraham".

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Joseph Wapner

Joseph Albert Wapner (November 15, 1919 – February 26, 2017) was an American judge and television personality. He is best known as the first presiding judge of the ongoing reality court show The People's Court. The show's first run in syndication, with Judge Wapner presiding as judge, lasted from 1981 to 1993, for 12 seasons and 2,484 episodes. While the show's second run has been presided over by multiple judges, Wapner was the sole judge to preside during the show's first incarnation. His tenure on the program made him the first jurist of arbitration-based reality court shows, which evolved into the most popular trend in the judicial genre and continues to be to the present.

Early life
Joseph Albert Wapner was born on November 15, 1919, in Los Angeles, California, to Jewish parents who had immigrated there; his father, attorney Joseph Max Wapner (1898–1992), was from Romania, while his mother, Fannie (née Friedman) (1901-1990), was from Russia. Wapner had a younger sister named Irene. Wapner attended Hollywood High School and once dated actress Lana Turner while in high school.

Wapner was a graduate of the University of Southern California (1941) and the USC Law School (1948), serving in World War II in between. Wapner was awarded the Purple Heart and the Bronze Star while serving in the South Pacific in Cebu. He was honorably discharged from the U.S. Army as a lieutenant. While at U.S.C. Wapner was initiated into the Tau Gamma Chapter of the Tau Epsilon Phi fraternity.

Legal career
Wapner was an attorney in private practice for ten years.

Appointed by Governor Pat Brown to the Los Angeles Municipal Court in 1959, Wapner served two years before being elevated to the Los Angeles County Superior Court, where he served for 18 years before retiring. While serving on the Superior Court bench, Wapner served as presiding judge in 1969 and 1970. Wapner was also president of the California Judges Association in 1975 and 1976 and retired from the court on November 16, 1979.

The People's Court
Wapner was the first judge to preside over the court show The People's Court. His tenure on the program lasted from 1981 to 1993, making for 2,340 half-hour episodes. On the series, he conducted a binding arbitration that was set up to resemble a small claims court by pitting parties, without lawyers, against each other. The legacy of the show's high popularity has led to various other similar syndicated courtroom shows, such as Judge Judy and Hot Bench, among others.

After 12 seasons on The People's Court, Wapner was not invited back to the series in 1993, when the ratings had dropped to an all-time low. After a four-year hiatus, beginning in 1993, The People's Court returned to the air in 1997, and aired until July 2023. Ed Koch, former mayor of New York City, served as judge from September 1997 until June 1999, Jerry Sheindlin served from September 1999 until March 2001, and Marilyn Milian served from March 2001 until July 2023.

Wapner stated that he was told years later that the producers did not want to hurt his feelings; however, he noted that this is precisely what the show did. Wapner also said he was not notified when the producers revamped the series. He declined to offer opinions on the People's Court judges who succeeded him, as he never watched the revamped program.

On November 12, 2009, Wapner received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. He and Judith Sheindlin of the television court show Judge Judy were the only two television jurists who have received the honor as of 2009. Wapner was publicly critical of Sheindlin's courtroom adjudicating approach.

On November 13, 2009, in honor of his 90th birthday on November 15, Wapner made a one-time-only return to the court show, acting as a guest judge, presiding over a case in the Marilyn Milian era of The People's Court.

Until the summer of 2013, Wapner also held the title of longest-reigning arbiter over The People's Court. However, by completion of the court show's 2012–2013 season, Milian captured this title from him and became the longest-reigning judge in the series. Milian remained on the show until its cancellation in July 2023.

Other media appearances and endeavors
Five years after presiding over The People's Court, Wapner returned to television as a judge in spin-off nontraditional courtroom series Judge Wapner's Animal Court, lasting for two seasons (1998–1999 and 1999–2000) on Animal Planet.

Wapner authored a book, A View from the Bench (1987, Simon and Schuster, ISBN 9780671638733).

On the back cover, Alice Cooper's 1983 album "DaDa" has "Special Thanks to Judge Joseph A. Wapner".

On June 27, 1986, Wapner appeared on the Tonight Show to hear a case of David Letterman vs. Johnny Carson over alleged damage to the headlight of Letterman's pickup truck when Carson had the truck towed to the studio. Wapner ruled in favor of Letterman, granting him $24.95.

In 1995 he appeared as an alternate-universe version of himself as Commissar of a "People's Court" in a Soviet-controlled California in an early episode of Sliders.

Endorsements
During 1999–2000, Wapner served as the national spokesperson for Singer Asset Finance Company, LLC, a specialty finance company, appearing in national television commercials and print ads.

Since around 2010, the soda company Rocket Fizz has marketed a beverage, Judge Wapner Cream Soda, featuring the slogan, "I sentence you to drink my cream soda."

Personal life, final years and death
Wapner was active in Jewish causes, including sitting on the board of a Jewish school. He was married to Mildred “Mickey” Wapner (née Nebenzahl) for 71 years, from 1946 until his death in 2017. Their daughter Sarah died from heart disease in May 2015 at age 56. They also had two sons who became attorneys: David Miron-Wapner and Frederick Nathan Wapner, the latter of whom was a prosecutor and L.A. district attorney who also became a judge (including with the Los Angeles County Superior Court). Wapner also had four grandchildren and one great-grandchild.

Wapner died from respiratory failure on February 26, 2017, at his home in Los Angeles. He was 97 years old. He is interred at Mount Sinai Memorial Park Cemetery in Los Angeles.

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Beaverdale (Des Moines)

The Beaverdale neighborhood is one of the largest of the 51 recognized neighborhood associations in the city of Des Moines, Iowa, in the United States. It extends from Forest Avenue at its southernmost border to the city limits at its northern border.

Once considered the rural, western edge of nineteenth century Des Moines, what is now Beaverdale consisted of large land tracts devoted to fruit orchards and truck farms. Early traffic crossed the area on an unpaved stagecoach highway known, since before the Civil War, as the Fort Dodge Stage Road. The road was renamed Beaver Avenue in 1903 and was later improved in 1917 with brick paving. The entire northwest section of Des Moines was commonly known as "Urbandale" until 1917, when the name was formally adopted by an adjacent suburban village. Soon afterwards, city residents from the area met and selected "Beaverdale" as the name to identify their neighborhood.

Most of the subdivisions were developed in the period between 1920 and 1940, when cars were becoming an essential part of every household. A major phase of construction occurred after the economic depression of the 1930s. Federal mortgage financing was created to encourage home buying. The local developers followed a variety of traditional home designs and they incorporated the latest trends in electrical conveniences into their plans. It was during this time, in 1938, that the fashionable "Beaverdale Brick" homes, built by local contractor E.T. McMurray, appeared. For the most part, the subdivisions were laid out in basic grid patterns, a convenient standard throughout Midwestern urban development. Two exceptions, Maryland Park and Ashby Manor, are notable for their winding drives and their early attention to design elements that create distinctive and attractive home settings.

In 2017, the neighborhood celebrated its centennial, marking 100 years of existence. A 116-foot-long Beaverdale mural was painted on the north wall of Uptempo Music, 2714 Beaver Ave.

Areas of interest
Beaverdale is 10 minutes from downtown Des Moines, five minutes from Drake University and Varsity Theater, five minutes from Merle Hay Mall, and 10 minutes from Valley West Mall. The Beaverdale Neighborhood Association hosts many events throughout the year. The neighborhood hosts an Easter egg hunt in the spring, a music festival each summer, and a holiday lights contest in the winter. The Beaverdale Fall Festival parade occurs on the third weekend in September.

Most of the students who live in this area typically attend either Hoover High School or Roosevelt High School.

Parks and recreation
The Beaverdale neighborhood contains over 50 acre of public parkland that offers a variety of recreational activities.

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Longwood station (MBTA)

Longwood station is a light rail station on the MBTA Green Line D branch, located on Chapel Street in Brookline, Massachusetts, on the border with Boston, just north of Longwood Avenue. It serves the Longwood Medical Area, the Colleges of the Fenway, and residential areas of Brookline. The station opened with the rest of the line on July 4, 1959. After renovation work completed in 2009, Longwood station is accessible from both Chapel Street and Riverway Park.

Original stations
The Boston and Worcester Railroad opened a 1.4 mile branch from Brookline Junction to Brookline on April 10, 1848. There was one intermediate station on the branch – Longwood just south of Longwood Avenue. The Charles River Branch Railroad extended the Brookline branch to Newton Upper Falls in November 1852 and to Needham in June 1853, keeping the original B&W station for its service.

The Sears Chapel was built in 1861 and the Church of Our Savior in 1868; sometime that decade Chapel station was opened as a flag stop located at Carlton Street. The Boston and Albany Railroad bought back the line, then part of the New York and New England Railroad, in February 1883. It was double-tracked and extended to the B&A main at Riverside; "Newton Circuit" service via the Highland branch and the main line began on May 16, 1886.

Station consolidation
As part of a general improvement program, the railroad replaced many of its original wooden stations with new stone buildings designed by H.H. Richardson and Shepley, Rutan and Coolidge and landscaped by Frederick Law Olmsted. All stations on the Highland branch save for Longwood, Chapel, and Brookline were thus rebuilt between 1883 and 1894.

In April 1892, the B&A petitioned the Massachusetts Board of Railroad Commissioners to allow them to combine the two old stations into a single new station between their location. The railroad cited the closeness of the two stations, their poor locations, and traffic losses due to the electrified trolley line opened on nearby Beacon Street in 1889. The board referenced the railroad's arguments, the assent of the Brookline selectmen, and an overwhelming majority of residents and passengers in favor of the consolidation when giving their assent.

In early 1893, the B&A commissioned Shepley, Rutan and Coolidge to build new stations at Longwood and Riverside. The new Longwood station was a "very simple rectangular design" with a dominant stone roof that provided shelter on all four sides. Located on Chapel Street near Hawes Street between the former station locations, it was constructed from July 1893 to May 1894.

A footbridge at Carlton Street was added by the town in mid-1894 to provide access to the Riverway Park. One of the only steel bridges in an Olmsted-designed park, it was designed and built by Alexis French, Brookline's first town engineer. The bridge was closed around 1975 due to severe corrosion. Plans to repair and reopen the footbridge proved locally controversial for several decades. The bridge deck was removed in July 2021 for restoration and returned in October 2022. The footbridge reopened in August 2023.

Conversion to light rail service
The station agent was removed in May 1949, but the station building remained in use as shelter for passengers. In June 1957, the Massachusetts Legislature approved the purchase of the branch by the M.T.A. from the nearly-bankrupt New York Central Railroad for conversion to a trolley line. Service ended on May 31, 1958. The line was quickly converted for trolley service, and the line including Longwood station reopened on July 4, 1959. The 1893-built station was torn down during the conversion to make room for a small parking lot. The station has two side platforms serving the line's two tracks.

Renovations
During the Brookline Village/Longwood Avenue Station Renovation Project, the MBTA reconstructed Longwood and Brookline Village stations for accessibility. The two stations received raised platforms to interface with low-floor LRVs, wooden ramps to access older high-floor LRVs, and other upgrades. The MBTA originally planned to have the Chapel Street entrance be the only accessible entrance to Longwood station but after it became apparent this was not sufficient, ramps were added from Riverway Park as well. Work on both stations began on July 23, 2007, and construction was completed in the second quarter of 2009.

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MMZ

MMZ may refer to:

 * Mega Man Zero
 * Mega Man Zero (series), a series of video games released by Capcom for the Game Boy Advance
 * Mega Man Zero (video game), the first video game in the series
 * MMZ (motorcycle), a motorcycle manufacturer based in Moscow
 * BELOMO, an old name for the Belarusian company

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Eternal sin

In Christian hamartiology, eternal sin, the unforgivable sin, unpardonable sin, or ultimate sin is the sin which will not be forgiven by God. One eternal or unforgivable sin (blasphemy against the Holy Spirit), also known as the sin unto death, is specified in several passages of the Synoptic Gospels, including Mark 3:28–29, Matthew 12:31–32, and Luke 12:10, as well as other New Testament passages including Hebrews 6:4–6, Hebrews 10:26–31, and 1 John 5:16.

The unforgivable sin is interpreted by Christian theologians in various ways, although they generally agree that one who has committed the sin is no longer able to repent, and so one who is fearful that one has committed it has not done so.

New Testament passages
Several passages in the New Testament are frequently interpreted as referring to the unforgivable sin:
 * Matthew 12:30-32: "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. Therefore I tell you, people will be forgiven for every sin and blasphemy, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."
 * Mark 3:28–30: "Truly I tell you, people will be forgiven for their sins and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit can never have forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin—for they had said, "He has an unclean spirit.""
 * Luke 12:8–10: "And I tell you, everyone who acknowledges me before others, the Son of Man also will acknowledge before the angels of God; but whoever denies me before others will be denied before the angels of God. And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven."
 * Hebrews 6:4–6: "For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, since on their own they are crucifying again the Son of God and are holding him up to contempt."
 * Hebrews 10:26–31: "For if we willfully persist in sin after having received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has violated the law of Moses dies without mercy "on the testimony of two or three witnesses." How much worse punishment do you think will be deserved by those who have spurned the Son of God, profaned the blood of the covenant by which they were sanctified, and outraged the Spirit of grace? For we know the one who said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay." And again, "The Lord will judge his people." It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."
 * 1 John 5:16: "If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it."

Arminianism
The teaching of Jacob Arminius defined the unforgivable sin as "the rejection and refusing of Jesus Christ through determined malice and hatred against Christ". However, Arminius differed with Calvin in believing that sin could be committed by believers, a conclusion he reached through his interpretation of Hebrews 6:4–6.

John Wesley, the father of the Methodist tradition, discussed the unforgivable sin in a sermon titled A Call to Backsliders, in which he wrote that "this blasphemy is absolutely unpardonable; and that, consequently, for those who have been guilty of this, God 'will be no more entreated'." A prominent Methodist catechism, "A Catechism on the Christian Religion: The Doctrines of Christianity with Special Emphasis on Wesleyan Concepts" states:

"The unpardonable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Blasphemy includes ridicule and attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to the devil."

This Wesleyan–Arminian interpretation of the unforgivable sin includes the deliberate labeling of good as evil, as rejecting the conviction of the Holy Spirit, of publicly attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to Satan, and attributing the work of Jesus to Satan. The United Methodist Church, a Methodist connexion, thus teaches:

"that the penalty of eternal separation from God with no hope of return applies in scripture only in two cases—either, as in Hebrews 6 and 10, to persons who willfully, publicly and explicitly reject Jesus as Savior after having confessed him, or, as in the gospels, to those who blaspheme against the Holy Spirit by declaring that the works of Jesus were the works of the Evil one."

Mormonism
Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, also nicknamed Mormons, have a similar understanding of eternal sin. Joseph Smith, the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, said in the King Follett discourse:

"All sins shall be forgiven, except the sin against the Holy Ghost; for Jesus will save all except the sons of perdition. What must a man do to commit the unpardonable sin? He must receive the Holy Ghost, have the heavens opened unto him, and know God, and then sin against him. After a man has sinned against the Holy Ghost, there is no repentance for him. He has got to say that the sun does not shine while he sees it; he has got to deny Jesus Christ when the heavens have been opened unto him, and to deny the plan of salvation with his eyes open to the truth of it; and from that time he begins to be an enemy."

Church apostle and later President of the Church, Spencer W. Kimball, stated that "the sin against the Holy Ghost requires such knowledge that it is manifestly impossible for the rank and file [of the church] to commit such a sin".

Reformed
John Calvin, the founder of the Reformed tradition of Christianity (which includes the Continental Reformed, Presbyterian, Congregationalist and Reformed Anglican denominations) wrote:

"I say, therefore, that he sins against the Holy Spirit who, while so constrained by the power of divine truth that he cannot plead ignorance, yet deliberately resists, and that merely for the sake of resisting."

Roman Catholicism
The Church Fathers considered additional interpretations other than it being to attribute the Holy Spirit's works to Satan with Augustine of Hippo calling it one of the more difficult passages of Scripture. Thomas Aquinas summarized the Church Fathers' treatments and proposed three possible explanations:
 * 1) That an insult directed against any of the Three Divine Persons may be considered a sin against the Holy Spirit; and/or;
 * 2) That persisting in mortal sin till death, with final impenitence, as Augustine proposed, frustrates the work of the Holy Spirit, to whom is appropriated the remission of sins; and/or;
 * 3) That sins against the quality of the Third Divine Person, being charity and goodness, are conducted in malice, in that they resist the inspirations of the Holy Spirit to turn away from or be delivered from evil. Such sin may be considered graver than those committed against the Father through frailty, and those committed against the Son through ignorance.

In the context of the Gospels of Matthew and Mark, blasphemy against the Spirit is the sin of attributing to Satan what is the work of the Spirit of God, such as when the Pharisees earlier accused Jesus of driving out demons only by the power of Beelzebul, the prince of demons. The Catholic Encyclopedia cites Matthew 12:22–32; Mark 3:22–30; Luke 12:10 (cf. 11:14–23) and gives one definition of "the unforgivable sin"—or sin against the Holy Ghost—as ″to sin against the Holy Ghost is to confound Him with the spirit of evil, it is to deny, from pure malice, the Divine character of works manifestly Divine.″ The article further states that "sin against the Son of Man" may be forgiven because it is committed against the human person of Christ, which veils the Divine with a "humble and lowly appearance," and therefore such sin is excusable because it is committed through "man's ignorance and misunderstanding."

According to the Council of Trent, referencing Ambrose's Concerning Repentance, the Church believes there is no offence, however serious, that cannot be taken away by Baptism, or absolved from in the Confessional—that no one, however wicked and guilty, may not confidently hope for forgiveness.

Thomas Aquinas lists, or responds to, six sins that go against the Holy Spirit:
 * Despair: which consists in thinking that one's own malice is greater than Divine Goodness, as the Master of the Sentences teaches,
 * Presumption: if a person wants to obtain glory without merits or pardon without repentance
 * Resistance to the known truth
 * Envy of a brother's spiritual good, i.e., of the increase of Divine grace in the world
 * Impenitence, i.e., the specific purpose of not repenting a sin
 * Obstinacy, whereby a person, clinging to their sin, becomes immune to the thought that its beneficial effects, to one or others, are very minor or otherwise short-term.

Thomas Aquinas explains that the unforgivability of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit means that it removes the entrance to these means of salvation; however, it cannot hinder God in taking away this obstacle by way of a miracle.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that, while no sin is absolutely "unforgivable", some sins represent a deliberate refusal to repent and accept the infinite mercy of God; a person committing such a sin refuses God's forgiveness, which can lead to self-condemnation to Hell. In other words, one damns oneself by final impenitence (refusal to repent), as taught by John Paul II:

"The images of hell that Sacred Scripture presents to us must be correctly interpreted... hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God... 'To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God's merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called 'hell''... 'Eternal damnation', therefore, is not attributed to God's initiative because in his merciful love he can only desire the salvation of the beings he created. In reality, it is the creature who closes himself to his love. Damnation consists precisely in definitive separation from God, freely chosen by the human person and confirmed with death that seals his choice for ever. God's judgement ratifies this state."

The Catechism says that Christ desires "the gates of forgiveness should always be open to anyone who turns away from sin." As did St Augustine, the Catholic Church today teaches that only dying unrepentant for one's sins is the only unforgivable sin. In Dominum et vivificantem, Pope John Paul II writes "According to such an exegesis, 'blasphemy' does not properly consist in offending against the Holy Spirit in words; it consists rather in the refusal to accept the salvation which God offers to man through the Holy Spirit, working through the power of the Cross", and "If Jesus says that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven either in this life or in the next, it is because this "non-forgiveness" is linked, as to its cause, to "non-repentance," in other words to the radical refusal to be converted. This means the refusal to come to the sources of Redemption, which nevertheless remain "always" open in the economy of salvation in which the mission of the Holy Spirit is accomplished."

Russian Orthodox Church
The importance of prayer (1 Thessalonians 5:17: "pray without ceasing") and humility (Jesus Prayer: "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner") in Christianity is reflected by an Orthodox catechism as follows: "Jesus Christ called the Holy Spirit "Spirit of Truth" (John 14:17; 15:26; John 16:13) and warned us, "All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men" (Matthew 12:31). "Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" is conscious and hardened opposition to the truth, "because the Spirit is truth" (1 John 5:6). Conscious and hardened resistance to the truth leads man away from humility and repentance, and without repentance, there can be no forgiveness. That is why the sin of blasphemy against the Spirit cannot be forgiven since one who does not acknowledge his sin does not seek to have it forgiven."

- Serafim Alexivich Slobodskoy

Southern Baptists
According to Southern Baptist pastor Billy Graham, continuing to reject Jesus is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

In Judaism
A very similar, although not identical, parallel to Matthew 12:31–32 can be found in the Avot of Rabbi Natan: "But someone who profanes the heavenly Name has no possibility of repenting and waiting for forgiveness. Suffering will not cleanse him. Yom Kippur will not atone for him. They are all held over until death comes and cleanses him. This is what is meant by "This sin will not be forgiven until you die"."

However, Talmudic sources in several places qualify the above and similar statements and explain it to mean only that repentance is made more difficult because of the severity of such a sin. The Talmud's golden rule is that the gates of repentance are never, ever closed and, to quote Maimonides, "even if one is a heretic his whole life and repents on his dying day, his penitence is accepted."

In Islam
In the Quran, is an unpardonable sin:

"God does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives anything less than that to whomever He wills. Whoever associates anything with God has devised a monstrous sin... God will not forgive that partners be associated with Him; but will forgive anything less than that, to whomever He wills. Anyone who ascribes partners to God has strayed into far error."

One who persists in shirk without repenting at death is doomed to eternal damnation in Jahannam. includes polytheism, such as believing Jesus is God or taking rabbis as one's lords in derogation to God.

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Longwood Medical Area station

Longwood Medical Area station is a light rail stop on the MBTA Green Line E branch, located in the Mission Hill neighborhood of Boston, Massachusetts. It is named for the adjacent Longwood Medical Area.

History
Until the completion of the Huntington Avenue subway from Copley to a portal near Opera Place on February 16, 1941, streetcars ran on the surface from the Boylston Street portal. Like other surface stops on the median-reservation section of the line, Longwood Avenue station had bare asphalt platforms. In 1972, the MBTA began planning a reconstruction of that section of the line, then scheduled for 1973-74. The work was eventually done in 1980, when the line was closed to modify the track and wires for the new LRVs. The line was cut back to Symphony on March 21, 1980; it was re-extended to Northeastern (using LRVs) on June 21 and Brigham Circle on September 20.

The station was renamed from Longwood–Hospitals to Longwood Medical Area in the 1980s. Longwood Medical Area's 3,813 daily boardings make it the busiest surface stop on the Green Line. In the early 2000s, the MBTA modified key surface stops with raised platforms for accessibility as part of the Light Rail Accessibility Program. The renovation of Longwood Medical Area - part of a $32 million modification of thirteen B, C, and E branch stations - was completed on January 13, 2003.

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Brigham Circle station

Brigham Circle station is a station on the light rail MBTA Green Line "E" branch, located just east of Brigham Circle in the Mission Hill neighborhood of Boston, Massachusetts. With raised platforms installed in a 2001-03 renovation, the station is accessible when served by low-floor streetcars.

The two side platforms are staggered, with the outbound platform further west. Crosswalks across Huntington Avenue to the station are present at Brigham Circle (to the outbound platform), between the two platforms, and at Wigglesworth Street (to the inbound platform). East of Brigham Circle, the E branch runs in a dedicated reservation in the median of Huntington Avenue; west of the circle is street running in mixed traffic to the terminus at Heath Street. Because of this, service is often terminated at Brigham Circle due to traffic conditions to preserve service frequency on the remainder of the line. At these times, the parallel bus provides all service west of Brigham Circle. A facing point crossover is located just east of the station, allowing terminating trains to cross over to the inbound platform.

History
Like other surface stops on the median-reservation section of the line, Brigham Circle (Francis Street) station had bare asphalt platforms. In 1972, the MBTA began planning a reconstruction of that section of the line, then scheduled for 1973-74. Three lightly used stops, including one at Wigglesworth Street, were to be closed. The work (minus the footbridge) were eventually done in 1980, when the line was closed to modify the track and wires for the new LRVs. The line was cut back to Symphony on March 21, 1980; it was re-extended to Northeastern (using LRVs) on June 21 and Brigham Circle on September 20. The inbound platform was moved east, with its east end at Wigglesworth Street.

In the early 2000s, the MBTA modified key surface stops with raised platforms for accessibility as part of the Light Rail Accessibility Program. The renovation of Brigham Circle - part of a $32 million modification of thirteen B, C, and E branch stations - was completed in 2003.

As part of a series of service reductions due to a budget crisis, on July 1, 2012 the MBTA began terminating weekend service at Brigham Circle. The cutback was unpopular with local residents, who considered it an unnecessary inconvenience. On October 13, 2012, the cut was quietly reversed by reducing frequency on the branch slightly, thus allowing the same equipment to cover the full line at no additional cost. This was made official with the December 29, 2012 timetable.

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Talk:Dominion of New England

C-class
Could this article be reviewed for C-class? I think it could make it...  DCI 2026 22:56, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Questions
I have two questions regarding the governance of the dominion after Andros's overthrow.

 * Was Francis Nicholson effectively governor of the dominion during the brief period between the Boston revolt and Leisler's uprising?
 * Or would dominion secretary Edward Randolph, safe for a time on Castle Island, have become something of a de facto governor?

 DCI talk 17:36, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

 * I think the correct way to look at this is that Andros continued to be de jure governor (he certainly tried to communicate with Nicholson), but that the dominion had de facto ceased to exist after the Boston revolt.  Magic ♪piano 16:54, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks.  DCI talk 21:31, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect Flag
I do not believe that the flag shown on this page was actually used by the Dominion of New England. If I'm not mistaken, that is an alternate version of the Bunker Hill flag (the other version has a blue field instead of red) raised during the American Revolution a century after the Dominion of New England ceased to exist. Given that the wiki article on the Dominion of New England doesn't say anything about this (or any other) flag being used, I think this image should be removed from the page until someone can verify that it was in fact used by the Dominion of New England. Nsfreeman (talk) 16:20, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 * agreed. I removed it. Rjensen (talk) 15:51, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

grammar
"formally without a charter" ? That shouldn't be "informally"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadsaque (talk • contribs) 05:23, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Inclusion of Vermont?
I don't see how Vermont could possibly have been a formal part of the Dominion of New England (1686–1689), since it was a French colony until 1763. There were some New York and New Hampshire settlers in the area, but were these considered by England to be part of the Dominion? JustinTime55 (talk) 16:08, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

 * I'm unaware of any English settlers in what is now Vermont prior to the establishment of Fort Dummer (1724). According to History of Vermont, there were French settlements along Lake Champlain as early as 1666; however, most of Vermont was then an Iroquois and/or Abenaki hunting ground, with seasonal occupation by Native populations.
 * Also, Vermont was never "a French colony", but it was subject to competing colonial claims during the Dominion period. Its territory may have been part of the expansive claims of New France, but all or part was probably also included in expansive claims of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, the Province of New Hampshire, and the Province of New York, none of which (including New France beyond whatever holdings it had settled on northern Lake Champlain) exercised significant actual control at the time.  French colonial claims were indeed extinguished in 1763, but competing British claims were not; see New Hampshire Grants.
 * The map at the top of this article is IMHO misleading, since it does not reflect either (1) colonial claims of the period, or (2) areas over which actual colonial authority was extended. (New York, for example, then effectively consisted of Long Island and the Hudson River valley up to Albany, with the rest of modern New York mostly Iroquois territory.) A useful map would depict English areas of actual control (2).  Magic ♪piano 18:19, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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Talk:Yeshivas Chofetz Chaim

To the anonymous editor
(I am restoring this as it was deleted by anonymous User:207.127.40.48 ):

Hi, could you please get yourself an official Wikipedia User name and page so that people can communicate with you and co-ordinate work on this (and other) article/s. You are also adding far too much detail, which will need serious editing at some point. You obviously have good "inside info", but Wikipedia is NOT about being a "platform" to critique and "screw" your subjects. If your attitude of not liking the yeshiva comes through then you are in violation of Wikipedia's policy of NPOV (Neutral Point of View). Thanks, and hoping to hear from you as a "normal" Wikipedia user. IZAK 03:16, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

To Izak
I am inexperienced Wikipedia user who is familiarizing myself with this encyclopedia with this article. As one the most, if not the most, dynamic yeshiva in the US, RSA is deserving of comprehensive treatment and analysis which would help Orthodoxy understand itself. Please let me know how I can contact you to receive more information on how to use Wikipedia, and clarify my intentions herein. My Wikipedia name is econapl.

BTW - I do not believe that any of the information here misrepresents RSA's viewpoint. I am in a position to know - I happen to be an adherent. Please do not edit the article, as several of your changes have made the article substantively inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Econapl (talk • contribs) 7/Dec/04

Response by IZAK
Shalom Aleichem: Dear User:econapl, I appreciate your predicament. You can contact me on my Wikipedia Talk page at User talk:IZAK.
 * You must stick to the name you have chosen, thus your name is User:Econapl and not "econapl". I had to track you down by looking at the "History" page of this article and I saw that you created the name "Econaple" (with an "E").'
 * One rule of Wikipedia is that you NEVER delete or edit the comments placed on the TALK (i.e. the "Discussion") pages by anyone.
 * It is the body of articles that may be edited by anyone who can contribute, but what is written on a Talk/Discussion page may not be deleted or edited by another person.
 * You are giving far too much detail for the Chofetz Chaim yeshiva article.
 * I also sense a certain "hostility" to the yeshiva on your part which makes it seem that you have your own "axe to grind" (making it a "Point of View" POV) hence you are violating another Wikipedia rule which is to write from a "Neutral Point of View" (NPOV).
 * I have left you a standard welcome message with some guidleines on your own user Talk page at User talk:Econapl.
 * Please also look at an feel free to join WikiProject Judaism.
 * Please sign all your comments on the Talk pages with four tildes ~ this will atomatically give your Wikipedia User name of Econaple, time and date.
 * If you disagree with another editors edits to an article, the place to do so is on this page and list the points and they can be discussed openly, but you cannot issue a "cease and desist" type of "order" because you feel more "qualified" to write on a topic.
 * You are in no position to judge another Wikipedia editors knowledge and insights until you discuss it with them on the Talk pages of articles or on the other Talk pages.
 * You can also reach me via Email on my user page, see "E-mail this user" on the "tool box" on the left hand side of any user's home page. Wikipedia will forward the Email. Once I have your Email address we can use regular Email if you prefer.
 * Best wishes and I look forward to sharing the writing of articles with you. IZAK 02:42, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Mea Culpa to Interested Parties
I am sorry for temporarily leaving an unfinished portion of the RSA article up here. I was initially motivated to write this article when I saw the MTY article (to which I have contributed, including the "Financial Information" section). I think that most readers would agree that the Internet is a wonderful place to post information on interesting but off-beat, and even obscure, subjects.

However, driven by Izak's thought-provoking comments, I read Wikipedia's own guidelines, viewable at Wikipedia, which clearly exclude from its domain the unverifiable analysis I wanted to provide. Therefore, I will be deleting almost all of my contributions to this article.

I thank Wikipedia and its readers for tolerating me until now, and Izak for making me aware of my improper behavior.

Econapl 01:38, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Econapl: I fear you have misunderstood my intentions. At NO POINT do I say that you must "stop" your good work on Wikipedia or that you are "guilty" of "improper behavior" (what IS that?). My purpose was to ease you into the "world" of how Wikipedia articles are created, written and nurtured (and yes, disputed). I encourage you to keep on going, don't give up so easily! IZAK 07:47, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

One more significant point about RSA
Personally, I really enjoyed your defining what makes RSA unique in its learning style. But you neglected to mention the Yeshiva's involvement in kiruv and outreach, and the continuing blossoming of "affiliates". That's a big part of what makes the Chofetz Chaim stand out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.185.1.100 (talk) 14:35, 6/Dec/05

Proposed move
BS"D

I moved the Ner page w/o proposing it to see if I got a reaction. Now, w/ the more mefursom yeshiva, all bight smaller Yeshiva, I want a consensus. Proposal to move the Yeshivas Chofetz Chaim: Rabbinical Seminary of America to Yeshivas Chofetz Chaim or Rabbinical Seminary of America.

Yeshivas Chofetz Chaim:
 * 1) Personally support --Shuli 20:03, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Rabbinical Seminary of America:

P.S. I went ahead and moved the page for lack of response — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaul avrom (talk • contribs) 20:37, 11/May/07

To Anonymous from Yeshivas Chofetz Chaim
If you want to argue that the Radun Yeshiva listing should be renamed Yeshivas Chofetz Chaim, and this page renamed RSA, I might agree -- it's certainly worth taking to a vote. What you're doing now is a POV violation and vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yudel (talk • contribs) 02:33, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Petira of HaRav Henach Leibowitz ZT"L
Source: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Breakout (talk • contribs) 03:15, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅. I added the source. Thanks, -- -- -- 23:37, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Alumni
Maybe we could get a list of prominent alumni going like on the Ner Yisroel article. Nerguy (talk) 17:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

WITS
Can I hear opinions if there is justification to start an article about WITS? A few sources:

Thoughts? Joe407 (talk) 08:40, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=F7waAAAAIBAJ&sjid=JToEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6821,9232870&dq=the+wisconsin+institute+for+torah+study&hl=en
 * http://www.jewishchronicle.org/article.php?article_id=12135
 * http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=em4aAAAAIBAJ&sjid=vCoEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6942,3280622&dq=the+wisconsin+institute+for+torah+study&hl=en

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Proposed move
I propose moving this back to Chafetz Chaim Yeshiva/Yeshivas Chafetz Chaim. While it's not the legal name, it is the most COMMONMAME and as such is most often what a user will search for. Sir Joseph (talk) 17:37, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Characteristics
This section is much too long and detailed for an encyclopedia. And of little interest to the public. Compare to other institutions. 2A0D:6FC2:43D0:9200:D09E:3043:1ADC:CEA5 (talk) 13:22, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Trehalose

Glycemic response
Any information as to whether or not this substance causes a glycemic response (spikes your blood sugar) like sucrose, or if it attenuates this response? 0-0-0-Destruct-0 03:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Good question - wish I could remember off the top of my head. Trehalase in the gut is the determining step for breakdown into glucose. Its on the villi. Deficiency is rare. It would be the question of rate of release. GraemeLeggett 08:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I came to this page having eaten a snack product and read ingredients. I want to know about GI and if there were any other interactions. I had already guessed trehalose might be like maltose - hadn't remembered the term disaccharide at first, just knew maltose was rumoured to have higher gi than glucose due to delivering two glucose molecules at a time. The article mentions sweetness - but how is this connected to GI if at all? I also wondered about any evidence of other health risks - thinking of the heard-of mooting of diabetes-incidence risks of high fructose consumption. Mention here of water-holding properties made me think of glycerine - pregnant women and diabetics are advised caution with that. Not that I am diabetic.So who going to find the info and put it in? I think over all this article is written for undegraduate biochemists and commercial scientists, rather than the interested consumer. Can we do both? We're meant to avoid too much unexplained jargon, aren't we? (feel free to seperate those few last points into a new section - limited time here now). Kathybramley (talk) 11:27, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Xerobiosis
Xerobiosis, Is this a real term? Googling it only brings forth two results, both of them mentioned in Wikipedia entries.--Hooperbloob 03:17, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Added a bit of text based on my own memories of working with the stuff. GDL 1 Feb 2005

Haworth projection
Can we get this molecule in the haworth projection? Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * Done. Welcome to Wikipedia, by the way! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 18:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I think the Haworth projection is incorrect. The 2nd sugar should be a-D-glucose but the stereochemistry is inverted. I'll see if I can fix it later unless someone else does it first. I'm not sure what the formating is though. See http://www.chem.qmul.ac.uk/iupac/2carb/36.html for an image of trehalos  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.32.50.98 (talk) 00:16, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Use in Plant Engineering
The gene for trehalose synthesis was inserted into plants (both chloroplast and nuclear engineering) to investigate use in drought resistance. Rather successful, though it had some effects on growth etc when inserted into nuclear genome. Worthy of addition, under "Biotech. Apps", or perhaps a simple mention? Geno-Supremo (talk) 20:39, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

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The hayashibara stuff
Although it seems weird for the article to mention hayashibara in the lede and then not mention anything about it elsewhere, here's some (English language) references to Hayashibara's work on the stuff:  --moof (talk) 08:51, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

 * this sounds more like advertisement rather that an encyclopedic info, especially because it is in the lead. --ArazZeynili (talk) 13:59, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I still don't know if trehalose is good fom me the consumer> Is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.35.162.89 (talk) 20:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Trehalose intolerance
There is evidence of trehalose intolerance, similar in symptoms to lactose intolerance. See http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11941647 and http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10522609. Perhaps it should be mentioned also here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.250.234.56 (talk) 15:07, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

C diff correlation
there is evidence in an article in the LA Times that C diff thrives on this carb http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-sugar-c-diff-20180103-story.html http://richardsprague.com/microbiome/2017/01/31/c-difficile-and-trehalose.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 40.140.201.66 (talk) 05:49, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Fascinating article in Nature which someone listed and someone else reverted

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/science/2018/01/04/Did-a-popular-sugar-additive-fuel-the-spread-of-two-superbugs/stories/201801030272

This is a rather hot development, need to flag this article as a developing topic. I don't think this can be ignored by Wikipedia any more than an outbreak of Ebola. Keith Henson (talk) 04:09, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, the paper is (Not even pubmed indexed yet per this).  And it is not all C dificile but two specific strains (with, interestingly, different mutations)
 * It is a super interesting story. It is at this point just interesting science however.  The coverage in Nature's associated commentary here was very  responsible science journalism, unlike a lot of the dreck that has been in the popular media about this.  This is the key paragraph:
 * "The study’s findings raise several avenues for future research. For instance, the connection between trehalose metabolism and toxin production, and how this is linked to increased death rates in people infected with RT027, will require further analysis. Whether trehalose in the human colon, where disease occurs, reaches high enough levels to affect RT027 and RT078 virulence is also unknown. The authors tested fluid from the small intestine, thus bypassing the colon, where the complex complement of gut microbes might break down trehalose."
 * Those unknowns are real. They are things we do not know. What we know is that there is a correlation.  But correlation is not causation.  Example "A study found that college students who went to sleep with their clothes on tended to wake up with headaches".  What does this mean??  Is their circulation being cut off or do they overheat and this harms their brains?   Well, they didn't study whether or not the students were drinking before they went to bed... right?  And going to bed drunk would explain both the clothes on and the headache.  You have to be careful with correlations.
 * That is not even bringing in the question of whether other groups will be able to replicate this. There is a replication crisis in academic science.
 * It is for reasons like this that we have MEDRS and don't "report" science news like this. It may turn out to be nothing.  It may turn out to be something.
 * It is nothing like Ebola at this point. Jytdog (talk) 05:03, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

 * If it really is behind ~30,000 peoply dying, it's somewhat bigger than twice the Ebola death count. There is no question of controversity in the news about this and frankly the work reported in Nature looks good.  My quess is that there will be a scramble to get it out of the food chain, even though it does not directly harm people.  It seems that the article should at least mention the controversity even it is dies out and trehalose is not withdrawn.  Wikipedia is going to look kind of stupid with no mention of the news stories.  Keith Henson (talk) 05:26, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You are pushing the science too hard and assuming that trehalose is causing C dificile deaths in humans. That is not what the paper says. Please look at WP:MEDREV (a section of MEDRS) and then please have a read of (long) lead of WP:Why MEDRS?  -- it may help you understand why we use literature reviews or statements by major medical or scientific bodies to source content about health (see WP:MEDDEF), and not primary scientific sources or popular media reporting on primary sources. Jytdog (talk) 07:03, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I haven't read any of the news about this. But I will say that from the POV of a Wikipedia editor, it is usually easier and ultimately more effective to mention the "hot news" in the article, and to place it in some appropriate context, than to try to continually remove all mention.
 * In a case like this, I'd be inclined to recommend something like "In 2018, the popular news media reported that one early-stage research project found a statistical association between this chemical and a particular type of bacterial infection, at least in two strains of the bacteria. However, scientific experts do not know whether it exacerbates the infection, is a result of the infection, or is merely a chance finding." – using the appropriate details, of course. If no good evidence appears in a secondary source during the next year or two, then per MEDRS's advice on short-term use of primary sources, it could and should be removed ("If no reviews on the subject are published in a reasonable amount of time, then the content and primary source should be removed").  WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:31, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The key bit the media is picking up on is "dietary trehalose increases the virulence of a RT027 strain in a mouse model of infection"
 * We could paraphrase this as "In 2018 the media commented on a study that found that mice feed trehalose who were infected with a specific type of ''C. difficile infection may develop worse disease."
 * Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:00, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * yes that would be a good idea(paraphrase)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:10, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Here's another article about this. It seems to be based on sources already mentioned here.
 * https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/01/the-curious-case-of-a-boring-sugar-that-may-have-unleashed-a-savage-plague/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.215.121.85 (talk) 18:15, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

 * I understand what is easy. I am not that interested in what is easy.
 * The Big News here is the correlation between the introduction of trehalose (after folks figured out how to manufacture it so it was scalable) and the increase in C dificile cases, in combination with the biological findings.  Really interesting and possibly important.  We just need MEDRS sources saying so, and like everything we can wait until we get them.  Again, people thought that shaking cells could turn them into stem cells and rushed to add content based on the hyped primary source to WP.  (Note the edit date, and the date the paper came out)  only to delete it later when the paper was retracted.   (We actually have a whole article on that mess Stimulus-triggered acquisition of pluripotency)  We should not be jerking the public around like that.  There is no reason to do that - we have no deadline here.  We communicate accepted knowledge and we are not a  newspaper.Jytdog (talk) 18:26, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I think that it actually is accepted knowledge that (a) this paper was published, and (b) nobody knows if it's "real".
 * Omitting all mention of "hot news" means that we're suppressing accepted knowledge, and leaving the reader to figure the situation out based upon whatever Twitter is saying at the moment. I don't think that's the best we can do.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:30, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Its been added already, WAID. See below and of course the article. 00:39, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

More sources for C. Diff.
https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2018/01/09/has-a-sucrose-alternative-contributed-to-the-c-diff-epidemic/

If this is not a good medical secondary source, then there are other medical articles that should have a reference to this source cleaned out. Keith Henson (talk) 20:21, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * That is helpful. I have gone ahead and added a research section using that, and have cited it in the nutrition section as well. Jytdog (talk) 22:20, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not going to get in an edit war over this, but I think the journal is significant to the readers. Science and Nature are the two highest ranking journals in science.  People will take it more seriously than if it had been published in World Weekly News.Keith Henson (talk) 03:16, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * "take it seriously." hm.  Not sure what you mean by that. If it had been in World Weekly News it would not be in a WP article.  this (mentioned in the section above) was also a Nature paper, btw.  Jytdog (talk) 05:43, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

What the...?
Opening para is way too technical. Tell me in plain English what this stuff is. 173.90.65.191 (talk) 04:14, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * yes that was bad, thanks for pointing that out. i improved it. Jytdog (talk) 00:46, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

What was your objection to my edit?
I don't mind; I'd just like to understand.RussellBell (talk) 06:39, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Lynchburg, Tennessee

Population
What was the population in 2000, 5740 or 5750? The page says both.

I only know the population as 361. ;)

In the 2010 census, TN - Moore County - Census Tract 9302 - Block Group 2 had a total population of 729. I believe this is more representative of Lynchburg than the total population of Metropolitan Lynchburg-Moore County as currently used in the article. An alternative is to use Commissioner District 1, which has a 2017 estimated population of 1,186. Jack N. Stock (talk) 17:56, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

 * any explanation for the 600% pop inc in 1990? 2A04:4A43:58DF:CEF2:84F0:E101:9016:15D0 (talk) 02:03, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Law on alcoholic beverages
I think the law that prevents Lynchburg from voting wet is TCA 57-3-106. Look it up at http://www.michie.com/tennessee/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&cp= --Orlady (talk) 22:07, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been asked to comment here on whether this is still valid. As the person who posted on my talk page noted, the link I provided over 4 years ago no longer works; the Tennessee code is now freely accessible at http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/tncode/ . The law at 57-3-106 was amended in 2011, but most provisions are not changed. Eligibility to vote on local sales of alcoholic beverages is restricted for certain counties and municipalities. Those counties and municipalities are not named in the statute, but are identified based on their population in the 1950, 1960, or 1970 census. A curious person could find the populations of Lynchburg and Moore County in those censuses and compare them to the numbers given in the law. --Orlady (talk) 20:12, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

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Texas A&M University College of Engineering

The College of Engineering, formerly the Dwight Look College of Engineering, is the engineering school of Texas A&M University in College Station and is home to over 22,000 students in 15 departments.

Prior to 2016, the college was known as the Dwight Look College of Engineering. The college was named after the civil engineering graduate, Harold Dwight Look, an army veteran of World War II who later founded a construction company on the U.S. Territory of Guam, where he lived for 40 years until his death on September 5, 2002, at the age of 80.

In 1992, Look donated 1,146 acres in Guam valued at $52 million to the university. It was the largest single gift ever received by the university, which later named the engineering college after Look. It was reported that Texas A&M was looking to sell the property in 2009.

History

The first engineering department at Texas A&M appeared in 1880, four years after the foundation of the school, with the creation of the Department of Engineering, Mechanics, and Drawing. For the next several years, the curriculum focused on practical training to assist students in finding industrial and vocational work. By 1887, separate departments had been created for mechanical engineering and for civil engineering and drawing.

To assist the United States during World War I, the Department of Mechanical Engineering shifted focus to train blacksmiths, automobile mechanics, machinists, draftsmen, general mechanics, and pipe fitters for the war. Following the war, the department's enrollment continued to increase, and it began offering courses in power, industrial and railway, or transportation engineering. In the 1930s, these options were eliminated, while others, including aerodynamics, air-conditioning and physical metallurgy began to be offered. During the 1936–1937 school year, the Department of Mechanical Engineering was first accredited by the Engineering Council for Professional Development, now known as the Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology.

By 1940, the engineering school comprised almost half of Texas A&M's enrollment. As World War II dawned, the school again assisted the war effort, with the Department of Mechanical Engineering faculty volunteering to teach at military bases throughout the state. Following the war, college introduced a Ph.D. program, and industries and government began to sponsor research within the college.

Degrees offered

 * Aerospace Engineering - BS, MS, MEng, PhD
 * Architectural Engineering - BS
 * Biological and Agricultural Engineering – BS, MS, MEng, MAgr, PhD, EngD
 * Biomedical Engineering - BS, MS, MEng, PhD
 * Chemical Engineering - BS, MS, MEng, PhD
 * Civil Engineering - BS, MS, MEng, PhD
 * Computer Engineering - BS, MS, MEng, PhD
 * Computer Science - BS, MS, MCS, PhD
 * Computing - BA
 * Electrical Engineering - BS, MS, MEng, PhD
 * Electronic Systems Engineering Technology - BS
 * Engineering - ME, DE
 * Engineering Systems Management - MS
 * Engineering Technical Management - MBA
 * Engineering Technology - MS
 * Environmental Engineering - BS
 * Health Physics - MS
 * Industrial Distribution - BS, MID
 * Industrial Engineering - BS, MS, ME, PhD
 * Interdisciplinary Engineering - PhD
 * Manufacturing and Mechanical Engineering Technology - BS
 * Marine Engineering Technology - BS
 * Materials Science and Engineering - MS, ME, PhD
 * Mechanical Engineering - BS, MS, ME, PhD
 * Multidisciplinary Engineering Technology - BS
 * Nuclear Engineering - BS, MS, ME, PhD
 * Ocean Engineering - BS, MS, ME, PhD
 * Petroleum Engineering - BS, MS, ME, PhD
 * Radiological Health Engineering - BS
 * Safety Engineering - MS

Rankings
The 2019 edition of the U.S. News & World Report ranks the Texas A&M University College of Engineering graduate program 15th and the undergraduate program 14th.

Individual engineering programs as ranked among public institutions by U.S. News & World Report:
 * Aerospace: 10th graduate (2019), 9th undergraduate (2019)
 * Biological and Agricultural: 3rd graduate(2019), 2nd undergraduate (2019)
 * Biomedical: 89th graduate
 * Chemical: 15th graduate, 19th undergraduate
 * Computer Engineering: 13th graduate, 11th undergraduate
 * Computer Science: 27th graduate
 * Civil Engineering: 8th graduate, 10th undergraduate (2019)
 * Electrical: 14th graduate, 9th undergraduate
 * Industrial and Systems Engineering: 11th graduate (2019), 11th undergraduate (2019)
 * Mechanical: 9th graduate, 9th undergraduate
 * Nuclear: 5th graduate (2019), 2nd undergraduate
 * Petroleum: 2nd graduate (2019), 2nd undergraduate (2019)

Research
The 2010 U.S. News & World Report ranked the college third in engineering research expenditures, with $248.4 million spent.

In 2005, the college had $179 million in engineering research expenditures, making it the 5th college nationally in research expenditures.

The college maintains responsibility for three independent agencies: the Texas A&M Engineering Experiment Station (TEES), the Texas A&M Engineering Extension Service (TEEX), and the Texas A&M Transportation Institute (TTI).


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Historical marker
Is the historical marker literally "on" his grave? Change to "at his grave site"? Seems weird to me that a marker would be placed on a grave. Jwicklatz (talk) 01:24, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

 * Good point. Fixed. Confirmed via https://medium.com/@MoresJeff/the-blues-came-walkin-like-a-man-6b85f8cd35c1 ★NealMcB★ (talk) 22:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Attachment parenting/Archive 1

Comment
What does, "informed medical decisions about vaccination, circumcision, medical procedures, early solid introduction, etc." mean? I think pretty much every parent who isn't a deadbeat wants to make informed medical decisions. I don't see what that has to do with Attachment parenting.

Also, I put the criticisms in paragraph form. Since I'm not a proponent of attachment parenting I didn't do the other section as I might (even unintentially) be too POV for that task. I think the article would be greatly served by having the bullit list changed to paragraphs though. Kevin Rector 03:19, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)

Recent Edits
This version leaves much to be desired but it is fairly NPOV. The pro-attachment parenting bits can use some reworking, but the recent changed which read like an advertisement for attachment parenting (as opposed to an encyclopedia article about it) which removed all the criticism is not acceptable. This is why I reverted it. Kevin Rector 15:08, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC)

 * Much of the criticism has been removed because it was substantially biased and not based on actual fact. This page was much better when initially added.  Since when is there critcism of a philosophy in an encyclopedia anyway?  If someone wants to read about mainstream parenting there is plenty written about it under 'parenting'. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.6.181.20 (talk • contribs).

NPOV
This article is not NPOV. All the criticisms have now been read to be misunderstading AP rather than being valid criticism. Kevin Rector 22:48, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

 * If there are any valid criticisms then you should indeed include them in this article. --jonasaurus 21:36, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Criticism vs. Response to Criticism
The criticism is extremely short and timid, yet the response to criticism is volumnous. This entry is supposedly about a philosophy, but does not contain links to philosophy concepts such as the Naturalistic fallacy. This entry is about a concept supposedly grounded in scientific evidence, yet does not reference examples of such, or mention any controversial aspects. --jakethebluespruce 14:03, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

 * If you look at the edits, criticism has slowly been edited out and replaced by rebuttal. Perhaps you can find some in the article text from three months ago or so.   -Ben 01:35, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

 * AP doesn't need to use naturalistic fallacy. Attachment theory is grounded in fact. However, many AP proponents often emphasize "natural" approaches in other areas of their life and may even cite that as a reason to do AP. This is more of how people apply AP in their own lives than a reflection of the actual parenting theory. --Westendgirl 06:57, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

 * See, below. Joie de Vivre 16:28, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

 * (It is now on the main page. If it is archived it will be moved to archive 2.)  Joie de Vivre 16:46, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Criticism
Crticizing AP because this method of parenting may be too demanding on the parent(s) is a little selfish. Parenting in itself is demanding reguardless of the method. Having unrealistic expectations and being uneducated about the stage of your child's development and their physical and emotional capabilities will cause parenting to be equally if not more demanding than AP. Don't you agree that a happy and emotionally healthy and stable child is worth the demands of parenting? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.136.26.235 (talk • contribs).
 * Maybe -- actually I think it reasonable for parents to weigh the demands of different methodologies if they're unconvinced one is better than another in outcome -- but it's really not relevant whether a criticism is valid or not for the purposes of this article. What is relevant is whether a criticism is actually made, and by whom, and whether the article represents that criticism accurately.  The same applies to responses to criticsm: if you or I regard a criticism as silly for reason X, that has no place in the article if (identifiable, citable) advocates of AP rebut the criticism for reason Y. -Ben 05:09, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Just a reminder: Wikipedia talk pages are not discussion forums for the topic of the article. They are places to discuss improvements to the article itself.  Joie de Vivre 16:34, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

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Etajima

Etajima (江田島), also called Nōmi-jima, Nomijima, Nomi Island, or Etajima-Nōmijima (江田島・能美島) is an island in Hiroshima Bay located in southwestern Hiroshima Prefecture, Japan. The mess with island name originates from the ancient (and possibly legendary) strait at now town Ōgaki-chō Hitonose (大柿町飛渡瀬).

Geography
The island is roughly Y-shaped, with the former Nōmi occupying center, the Okimi - north-western branch, Etajima - north-eastern branch, and Ōgaki - the southern branch. The island's highest peak, mount 宇根山 (Uneyama) 542 m high, is located on the western edge of Nōmi town.

Transportation
Since 1973, the island is connected to the Japanese mainland of Honshu by the Hayase Ōhashi bridge passing through the Kurahashi-jima island. The island is served by the national route 487. Also, ferries are available from the cities of Hiroshima and Kure on Honshu island and Matsuyama on Shikoku island.

History
The Imperial Japanese Naval Academy was moved to Etajima Island in 1888. While the academy still exists under the name Naval Academy Etajima, modern Etajima focuses rather on olive cultivation and fish hatcheries in Etajima Bay north of the island.

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Ross Thomas (author)

Ross Thomas (February 19, 1926, in Oklahoma City – December 18, 1995, in Santa Monica, California) was an American writer of crime fiction. He is best known for his witty thrillers that expose the mechanisms of professional politics. He also wrote five novels under the pseudonym Oliver Bleeck about professional go-between Philip St. Ives.

Early life
Thomas served with the infantry in the Philippines during World War II. He worked as a public relations specialist, correspondent with the Armed Forces Network, union spokesman, and political strategist in the USA, Bonn (Germany), and Nigeria before becoming a writer.

Career
Thomas's debut novel, The Cold War Swap, introducing McCorkle and Padillo, was written in only six weeks and won a 1967 Edgar Award  for Best First Novel. Briarpatch earned the 1985 Edgar for Best Novel. In 2002 he was honored with the inaugural Gumshoe Lifetime Achievement Award, one of only two authors to earn the award posthumously (the other was 87th Precinct author Ed McBain in 2006).

In addition to his novels, Thomas also wrote an original screenplay for the 1995 movie Bad Company, about a CIA affiliated private spy organization. It was scored by Joel and Ethan Coen soundtrack composer Carter Burwell and starred Lawerence Fishburne and Ellen Barkin.

Thomas wrote an unproduced film for producer Robert Evans entitled Jimmy the Rumour. The project is the story of a man born without an identity who works as a thief stealing from other thieves.

The first three novels in the McCorkle-Padillo series are written in the first person, as are a number of others through Yellow Dog Contract. The fourth and final McCorkle-Padillo novel has an omniscient narrator, as do all of the other novels published after 1976. All five of the Philip St. Ives stories, however, are told in the first person.

Death
Thomas died of lung cancer in Santa Monica, California, at age 69.

Novels

 * The Cold War Swap (1966)
 * The Seersucker Whipsaw (1967)
 * Cast a Yellow Shadow (1967)
 * Singapore Wink (1969)
 * The Fools in Town Are on Our Side (1970)
 * The Backup Men (1971)
 * The Porkchoppers (1972)
 * If You Can't Be Good (1973)
 * The Money Harvest (1975)
 * Yellow-Dog Contract (1976)
 * Chinaman's Chance (1978)
 * The Eighth Dwarf (1979)
 * The Mordida Man (1981)
 * Missionary Stew (1983)
 * Briarpatch (1984)
 * Out on the Rim (1987)
 * The Fourth Durango (1989)
 * Twilight at Mac's Place (1990)
 * Voodoo, Ltd (1992)
 * Ah, Treachery! (1994)

As Oliver Bleeck

 * The Brass Go-Between (1969)
 * Protocol for a Kidnapping (1971)
 * The Procane Chronicle (1971) – re-released as St. Ives after being adapted as the 1976 movie starring Charles Bronson.
 * The Highbinders (1973)
 * No Questions Asked (1976)

Non-fiction

 * Warriors for the Poor: The Story of VISTA, Volunteers In Service to America (with William H. Crook, 1969)
 * Spies, Thumbsuckers, Etc. (1989)

Recurring characters
The following characters appear in more than one novel:
 * Cyril "Mac" McCorkle, former Army special-operations officer in World War II Burma and now co-owner of Mac's Place, a bar/restaurant first in Bonn and then in Washington, DC, and his polyglot business partner/friend Michael Padillo, spy/executioner for an unnamed government agency; both are in The Cold War Swap, Cast a Yellow Shadow, The Backup Men, and Twilight at Mac's Place. Padillo appears briefly in The Seersucker Whipsaw, tending bar as "Mike."
 * Fredl Arndt, McCorkle's wife.
 * Herr Horst, the maitre d' of Mac's Place.
 * Karl Triller, the head bartender of Mac's Place, although his last name is not mentioned until Twilight at Mac's Place.
 * Stan Burmser is Padillo's handler in Cold War Swap, has roles in Cast a Yellow Shadow and The Backup Men, and makes a very brief appearance in Mac's Place.
 * Artie Wu and Quincy Durant, con men/adventurers, and their associate Maurice "Otherguy" Overby are in Chinaman's Chance, Out on the Rim, and Voodoo, Ltd. Booth Stallings, expert on terrorism, and Georgia Blue, cashiered Secret Service agent, join them in the latter two.
 * "Boy" Howdy, an Australian adventurer, is featured in Out on the Rim. He is mentioned in passing in Missionary Stew.
 * Howard Mott, a Washington lawyer and son-in-law of Booth Stallings, has cameo roles or is mentioned in several novels including Twilight at Mac's Place, in which he plays a fairly important part.
 * Ione Gamble, an actress and director, is a central character in Voodoo, Ltd. and is seen briefly in Ah, Treachery!.
 * Draper Haere, political money raiser, is a central character in Missionary Stew and is mentioned in Ah, Treachery.
 * Minor Jackson and Nicolae Ploscaru, central characters in The Eighth Dwarf, are mentioned in Ah, Treachery.
 * Chubb Dunjee is the protagonist of The Mordida Man and is mentioned in Voodoo, Ltd.

In the five Philip St. Ives novels (as by Oliver Bleeck):
 * Myron Greene, a New York corporation attorney on Madison Avenue, has a peripheral role as St. Ives's friend, lawyer, and business agent in all five books.
 * Eddie the bellhop and Sid the bartender are very minor characters fleetingly mentioned from time to time in the various books as being employees of the Manhattan hotel where St. Ives resides.
 * Sergeant Herbert Fastnaught of the Washington, D.C., Metropolitan Police has a secondary role in both The Brass Go-Between and No Questions Asked, by which time he has been promoted to lieutenant.

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