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Talk:Will (verb)

Ironically, this artical about grammar contains many grammatical errors. Does anyone disagree that this article badly needs an overhaul? Nulbyte 12:29, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * What errors in this article are you referring to in particular? Feel free to emend. —Sinuhe 18:15, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * One of the first examples, "they'll no doubt be there by now" gives a present time frame for a future action saying they will be there (future) by now (present). The second example of future perfect tense uses got where one should use gotten.  Otherwise, the article looks very disorganized; long lists of examples with little substance.  And why point the reader to discussion of appropriate times to use will on a page about shall after one has already discussed appropriate use of the verb will? -Nulbyte 13:30, 2004 Dec 8 (UTC)

 * I don't see why you would assume that 'they'll no doubt be there by now' implies any futurity whatsoever. It is inferring from what you know of the past to the present. If a timeframe other than the present was used, the sentence would mean something else entirely (it would be prediction rather than inference). Will as a modal verb need not be related to the future and this is in fact one of the examples meant to demonstrate just this.
 * As for gotten, that word is archaic (or American) for got. The past participle of to get is got. See American and British English differences for details.
 * The article on shall discusses a rather different issue; it does not make sense to duplicate information when it can be linked. But feel free to improve and organise the article if you know how. —Sinuhe 16:32, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * An inference of what? An inference of an action yet to happen would cause confusion with the clause "by now," while an inference of an action happening now or having already happened would cause confusion with the use of will.  Inference is commonly made with other verbs, for example "they have to be there by now," in either style.  See http://cctc2.commnet.edu/grammar/auxiliary.htm for an excerpt from The New Fowler's Modern English Usage on will and bits on other auxiliary verbs, with information on both Brittish and American styles.  And I wasn't quite aware of the usage of got outside of the US, so thank you for that tidbit.  -Nulbyte 02:09, 2004 Dec 9 (UTC)

 * It is an inference of something which should be true now based on information from the past. I'm not saying that other verbs are not used in this sense, but will is not at all uncommon in this rôle. The terminology 'inferential fact of the present' stems from Dr Onions; if you really can't come to terms with the sentence, we could well include another example. Say, 'You will no doubt be the person of whom my friend has told me.' (or do you see some connexion with the future in this sentence as well?)? —Sinuhe 19:22, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * "'You will no doubt be the person of whom my friend has told me.' (or do you see some connexion with the future in this sentence as well?)"
 * Just out of curiosity, where do you live? I've never heard anything remotely like this sentence in reference to the present.  It would probably be spoken here as, "You're the guy my friend told me about?" or "And you're the guy he was talking about, are you?" (if requesting confirmation).  I can't say I've heard the present expressed in the future: "You will... be the person of whom my friend spoke" carries exactly the same connotation as "You shall be that person" to my ears.

There really should be a formal/informal distinction
I'm not seeing any real grammatical mistakes. Most of the informal or "incorrect" instances listed are said all the time in real life, even if they're unacceptable for any sort of formal writing. I also take issue with this part of the article:

"I would have thought that he would have been thrilled! (or, better: "I should have thought ...")"

Who's to say better? "I should have thought" is certainly more formal, and it maintains the shall/will distinction (which is in no danger of disappearing and preserves a very important shade of meaning). But "should" is really no longer the first-person simple conditional. The person distinction ("I should" = "You would"; "I shall" = "You will") has been mostly wiped out, so now "would" and "will" are neutral and "should" and "shall" indicate obligation or duty, regardless of person. This is the everyday usage. "If I lived in Flintlock Estates, I should be home now" sounds unnatural and stilted in everyday speech, and is usually shortened to 'd (or 'll) anyway. "I should be home now" comes off as "I ought to be home now".

And on the other side of the coin, the article really ought to explain the formal sh-/w- distinction. Throwing both written and spoken usage into the same pot isn't going to help anybody: a foreign learner wouldn't really grasp the words' nuances, as the article is mostly a list of examples; an English speaker looking for what's "proper" will find the traditional usage mixed in a haphazard list with just about every other use of the word there is; and someone who doesn't need the help that this article could provide... well, doesn't need the help that this article could provide.

Perhaps a split between traditional and everyday usage would be in order? Will, would, shall, and should are four very important words that are still kept separate in careful usage, simply because they imply so much in one word. Bulldozing the useful distinction for the sake of "progress" and descriptive grammar does no favors. The formal uses have passed out of common speech, but the sh- and w- words are so useful that they'll stay in writing for a long time.

Consider the well-known example of "I will die; no one will save me!" as opposed to "I shall die; no one will save me!". Both would probably be spoken "I will die; no one will save me!" (well, not really at all, but you get the idea); the speaker would provide the emphasis, and the verbal-diarrhoea element of spoken language is a safety net in that you can throw whatever words in to explain yourself if your initial thought can't. The shall/will distinction keeps "I shall die" and "I will die" separate and succinct; a reader can see the two and realize that the first is suicidal and the second forlorn, and the reader can get all of that with one word's difference. The distinction will always be in writing (which really ought to follow prescription to the letter: prescriptive grammar creates a form of the language that will be understood for centuries), so the traditional uses of these words ought to be included and marked. But the informal and idiomatic uses should definitely stay. If this article helps even one person out there speak and read better English, that's enough for me.

But please, don't argue about prescription and description. Both are equally valuable and ought to be covered. Speaking isn't a thing like writing, and the two really follow different rules: most speech isn't going to be remembered even in a day or two from now. We can still read Shakespeare, 400 years later. Written language ought to be conservative; it reads more easily and writing is a semi-permanent record that doesn't change with the tides as speech does (In 100 years, I doubt that people will still say "If I would have seen it" for "If I had seen it": in my mind, it's wordy and takes too much effort to mentally convert from conditional to preterite. There are no advantages to this usage at all except that it throws out meaningless verbal fluff so the speaker can think of what to say next.  Although I must say that the phrase "the fact that" has stuck around surprisingly long despite adding nothing but dead weight to the language: you'd think that people would get sick of saying so many meaningless words, but "I take offense to the fact that he's eating meat" has inexplicably stayed more popular than "I'm offended that he's eating meat".  It adds nothing and can even lead to misunderstandings: the phrase is so popular that it's used for opinions as well ("The fact that potato chips taste good", for one), and you could easily take such an opinion the wrong way. "The fact that Bill Clinton was a good president" doesn't just state an opinion; it calls everyone who disagrees a liar, and all because some people just can't seem to write "that" without a "the fact" before it.

Sorry for the digression, it's just that "the fact that" has always been one of my great unsolved mysteries of the English language: considering that it's wordy and adds nothing to the language but ambiguity and monotonous sentence structure. And not only is it still around: it's grown even more widespread. It's snuck into newspaper articles and other formal writing despite being a prime example of "dead wood", and it's gone from a rarely-used phrase to a ubiquitous one, encountered two or three times -- if not more -- in some paragraphs. One of the great curiosities of the tongue, I guess.

Usage
I believe the split should also include American usage (and, if appropriate, that of other countries). In America, "shall" is by no means alive and well, and in fact has all but disappeared. Someone using it will either be considered British-sounding or, possibly, somewhat 'snooty'. "Should" indicates obligation and is more or less equal to "ought to" or "be supposed to". The important point is that this is true even in formal writing -- we just don't use "shall" anymore (except as an archaic/Biblical-sounding imperative or proclamation), and "will" almost always indicates future tense (though of course it's not the only future tense verb form).

These examples all seem rather distinctly British/English:
 * inferential fact of the present: "They'll no doubt be there by now." (this is equally well expressed by "They are, doubtless, there by now.")
 * truths and facts: "This engine will only run on unleaded petrol."
 * obligation and orders: "All students will now, please, rise." (for official orders, shall is to be used)
 * habits: "He will always be willing to give you a hand whenever he can."
 * annoying habits: "She will keep interrupting me when I'm trying to work."

In American English one would almost certainly use the present tense form. 'Translations' into American would be something like:
 * "They're probably/surely there by now." or "They must be there by now."
 * "This engine only runs on unleaded (petrol/gas)."
 * "All students please rise." or "Would all students please rise."
 * "He's always willing to give ..."
 * "She keeps interrupting me ..." -- though the 'will' form could be used when describing a series of events ("So in the morning I'll get some coffee and settle in to read my email, and she'll be ignoring me -- but then she'll keep interrupting me when I'm actually trying to work!")

Willingness, as in "I'll get some more milk if you like.", may also be shown by "can", as in "I can get some more milk if you like".

But "You will open the door for me." is definitely a command. Perhaps it's supposed to be "Will you ..."? Though in American you'd probably hear "Would you ..." or even "Could you ...?"

While 'will' can be used for predictions of the future, "They'll have easily got there by now." sounds like another 'British-ism'. "They must have gotten there by now."

Usage of "would" is more traditional, but some other small differences:
 * I would have thought that he would have been thrilled! (or, better: "I should have thought ...") (but he wasn't)
 * He promised he would have posted my letter before the post office closed. (but I don't know if he had)
 * You wouldn't open the door, would you? (a polite request)
 * He would often tell me stories when I was young. (= He used to tell me stories when I was young.)

With American equivalents:
 * "I would have thought he would be thrilled!" -- and no American would use "should" for this meaning! "I should have thought he would be thrilled" means something else entirely.
 * "He promised he would (post/mail) my letter before the post office closed."
 * I'm sure context would help, but this doesn't even sound like a request; it would sound more like "You wouldn't open the door. Right?"
 * "Used to" is probably more common for this nowadays

And again, formality in writing would mostly consist of writing out forms that are contracted in speech and avoiding slang and other casual language; but I doubt many Americans would even know when to use "shall". All of which is not to say that I find the examples 'wrong' or 'ungrammatical' -- they're mostly 'British-sounding'.

I think the real underlying problem is the supposition that there is one, single "English language". There is not. But this page is 'not about usage in standard British English -- it's about the verb "will" in 'English'; therefore, I think, it should cover any major dialect differences. -- Damezi 01:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

"the fact that"
As for "the fact that" -- you say it's dead wood; yet it must be doing something if it's sticking around. Just remember: you may not know of any purpose for something, but that doesn't mean there isn't any purpose.

Despite (sometimes) using this phrase myself, I'm not sure of its usage, but to take a guess: "be offended" and "take offense to" are subtly different. The former is more passive; it denotes something beyond your control -- while the latter is active. I think it's roughly the same as "be/get attacked" vs. "fight with". And "take offense to", of course, needs a noun complement; but a phrase beginning with "that" isn't a noun, so a dummy noun is inserted. The same works for other expressions: "Despite the fact that he eats meat, he still claims to be a vegetarian."

Rephrasing it to "Despite his eating meat ..." or "Despite his being a vegetarian ..." is somehow awkward; sometimes the easiest way to turn "(VP), but despite that, Y" into "Despite (VP), Y" without rewording the Verb Phrase is to insert "the fact that".

"Even though he's a vegetarian ..." or "Even though he eats meat ..." is also allowable, if not exactly the same in meaning; but then people do like to overuse new expressions. And stating an opinion as fact is nothing new. :-)

-- Damezi 01:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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John Lighton Synge

John Lighton Synge PRIA HonFTCD (23 March 1897 – 30 March 1995) was an Irish mathematician and physicist, whose seven-decade career included significant periods in Ireland, Canada, and the USA. He was a prolific author and influential mentor, and is credited with the introduction of a new geometrical approach to the theory of relativity.

Background
Synge was born 1897 in Dublin, Ireland, into a prominent Church of Ireland family. He attended St. Andrew's College, Dublin and in 1915 entered Trinity College Dublin (TCD). He was elected a Foundation Scholar his first year, which was unusual as it was normally won by more advanced students. While an undergraduate at TCD, he spotted a non-trivial error in Analytical Dynamics, a textbook by E. T. Whittaker, who had recently taught there, and notified Whittaker of the error. In 1919 he was awarded a B.A. in Mathematics and Experimental Physics, and also a gold medal for outstanding merit. In 1922 he was awarded an M.A., and in 1926 a Sc.D., the latter upon submission of his published papers up to then.

In 1918, Synge had married Elizabeth Eleanor Mabel Allen (1896–1985). She was another student at TCD, first of mathematics, then of history, but family finances forced her to leave without graduating. Their daughters Margaret (Pegeen), Cathleen and Isabel were born in 1921, 1923 and 1930 respectively. The middle girl grew up to become the distinguished Canadian mathematician Cathleen Synge Morawetz.

Synge's uncle John Millington Synge was a famous playwright. He is more distantly related to the 1952 Nobel prizewinner in chemistry Richard Laurence Millington Synge. He was a great-great-great-grandson of the mathematician and bishop Hugh Hamilton.

His older brother, Edward Hutchinson Synge (1890-1957), who was known as Hutchie, also won a Foundation Scholarship in Trinity for Mathematics, though he never graduated. While Hutchie's later independent research was long overlooked, he is now recognised for his pioneering work in optics, particularly in near field optical imaging.

He died on 30 March 1995 in Dublin.

Career in mathematics and physics
Synge was appointed to the position of lecturer at Trinity College, and then accepted a position at the University of Toronto in 1920. From 1920 until 1925, Synge was an assistant professor of mathematics at the University of Toronto. There he attended lectures by Ludwik Silberstein on the theory of relativity, stimulating him to contribute "A system of space-time co-ordinates", a letter in Nature in 1921.

Synge returned to Trinity College Dublin, in 1925, where he was elected to a fellowship and was appointed the University Professor of Natural Philosophy (the old name for physics). He was a member of the American Mathematical Society and the London Mathematical Society. He was treasurer of the Royal Irish Academy in 1929. He went back to Toronto in 1930, where he was appointed Professor of Applied Mathematics and became Head of the Department of Applied Mathematics. In 1940, he supervised three Chinese students, Guo Yonghuai, Chien Wei-zang and Chia-Chiao Lin, who later became leading applied mathematicians in China and the United States.

He spent some of 1939 at Princeton University, and in 1941, he was a visiting professor at Brown University. In 1943 he was appointed as Chairman of the Mathematics Department of Ohio State University. Three years later he became Head of the Mathematics Department of the Carnegie Institute of Technology in Pittsburgh, where John Nash was one of his students. He spent a short time as a ballistic mathematician in the US Air Force between 1944 and 1945.

He returned to Ireland in 1948, accepting the position of Senior Professor in the School of Theoretical Physics at the Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies. This school had been set up in 1940, and had several outstanding members, including Erwin Schrödinger (who contributed to quantum mechanics), who was also a Senior Professor.

His contributions
Synge made outstanding contributions to different fields of work including classical mechanics, general mechanics and geometrical optics, gas dynamics, hydrodynamics, elasticity, electrical networks, mathematical methods, differential geometry, and Einstein's theory of relativity. He studied an extensive range of mathematical physics problems, but his best known work revolved around using geometrical methods in general relativity.

He was one of the first physicists to seriously study the interior of a black hole, and his early work was cited by both Kruskal and Szekeres in their independent discoveries of the true (so-called maximal) structure of the Schwarzschild black hole. Synge's later derivation of the Szekeres-Kruskal metric solution, which was motivated by a desire to avoid "using 'bad' [Schwarzschild] coordinates to obtain 'good' [Szekeres-Kruskal] coordinates," has been generally under-appreciated in the literature, but was adopted by Chandrasekhar in his black hole monograph.

In pure mathematics, he is perhaps best known for Synge's theorem, which concerns the topology of closed orientable Riemannian manifold of positive sectional curvature. When such a space is even-dimensional and orientable, the theorem says it must be simply connected. In odd dimensions, it instead says that such a space is necessarily orientable.

He also created the game of Vish in which players compete to find circularity (vicious circles) in dictionary definitions.

Fields Medal
While at Toronto, he was a colleague of John Charles Fields and acted as secretary to the 1924 International Mathematical Congress, which was hosted by Fields. Fields had been planning the creation of an award for mathematicians, however, when he became ill in 1932, Synge represented Fields at the 1932 International Mathematical Congress, where the medal was approved. After Fields death, Synge completed arrangements with the sculptor of the medal, R. Tait McKenzie and oversaw the disbursement of Fields' estate. The award is now known as the Fields Medal.

Honours
Synge received many honours for his works. He was elected as a fellow of the Royal Society of London in 1943. He was elected as a fellow of the Royal Society of Canada, and in 1943 was the first recipient of the society's Henry Marshall Tory Medal, as one of the first mathematicians working in Canada to be internationally recognised for his research in mathematics. In 1954 he was elected an honorary fellow of Trinity College Dublin. He was president of the Royal Irish Academy from 1961 until 1964. The Royal Society of Canada established the John L. Synge Award in his honour in 1986.

John Lighton Synge retired in 1972. During his time at the Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies, about 12% of all workers in the relativity theory studied there. Professor Hermann Bondi, who gave the first J. L. Synge Public Lecture in 1992, had this to say: "Every one of the other 88% has been deeply influenced by his geometric vision and the clarity of his expression". He was awarded the Boyle Medal by the Royal Dublin Society in 1972.

During his long scientific career, Synge published over 200 papers and 11 books. He proved the result now known as Synge's theorem.

Selected publications

 * Papers

 * Books
 * 1931 The Mathematical Papers of Sir William Rowan Hamilton: Volume 1, Geometrical Optics; Pub: Cambridge
 * 1937 Geometrical Optics: An Introduction to Hamilton's Method; Pub: Cambridge
 * 1942 Geometrical Mechanics and de Broglie Waves; Pub: Cambridge''
 * 1942 Principles of Mechanics (with Byron A. Griffith); Pub: McGraw Hill
 * 1949 Tensor Calculus (with Alfred Schild) Mathematical Exposition #5 from University of Toronto Press
 * 1951 Science: Sense and Nonsense; Pub: Norton / Jonathan Cape
 * 1952 Jump Conditions at Discontinuities in General Relativity (with Stephen O'Brien); Pub: DIAS (Communications of the Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies 9, Series A)
 * 1956 Relativity: The Special Theory; Pub: North-Holland
 * 1956 Geometrical Optics in Moving Dispersive Media; Pub: DIAS (Communications of the Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies 12, Series A)
 * 1957 The Relativistic Gas; Pub: New Holland
 * 1957 The Hypercircle in Mathematical Physics; Pub: Cambridge
 * 1957 Kandelman's Krim: A Realistic Fantasy; Pub: Jonathan Cape
 * 1960 Relativity: The General Theory; Pub: North-Holland
 * 1961 Notes on the Schwarzschild Line-Element (with Petros S. Florides); Pub: DIAS (Communications of the Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies 14, Series A)
 * 1964 The Petrov Classification of Gravitational Fields; Pub: DIAS (Communications of the Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies 15, Series A)
 * 1970 Talking About Relativity; Pub: North-Holland
 * 1972 Quaternions, Lorentz Transformations and the Conway-Dirac-Eddington Matrices; Pub: DIAS (Communications of the Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies 21, Series A)
 * 1972 General Relativity: Papers in Honour of J. L. Synge (editor Lochlainn O'Raifeartaigh); Pub: Clarendon/Oxford

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Talk:Puce

Expansion
Instead of moving this to Wiktionary, someone could just expand this like the other color articles...

 * Agreed

All right, what I did was copied the basic template for a color from another article and added it inside a remark (<!-- -->) JD 03:28, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)

Should the RBG for this be #961E42 it seems to match the description better then the current one. Lidden 18:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Huh?
"The mystery behind this colour involves its use in English as a sort of nonsensical-sounding colour name, much like chartreuse, a yellowish-green colour." <-- Does this sentence make little sense to anybody else but me? What mystery is being talked about here? And if people do use it in this fasion, maybe someone should give an example? Kidicarus222 05:48, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I just removed that. It really didn't make any sense- first, I don't know where this "mystery" idea comes from, and second, does any color have a name that makes sense? Does green look "green"? I honestly can't believe this sentence was in the article for so long. -- Kicking222 03:12, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The "Santa Claus" movie reference
...Nuh-uh, it was not the magical element that made reindeer fly. What made reindeer fly was the magical element in lollipops which the elf (Dudley Moore) chose to color puce after that color was suggested by B.Z. the evil toy-manufacturer's assistant, Howser. The magical element which made reindeer fly was some kind of gold dust -- which was also then added to the puce colored lollipops which BZ gave for free to all the children in the world, to take over Christmas ("Santa Claus is finished!"). So now ya'll know. :-) 16:47, 26 August 2006 (CET)
 * I remember the guy suggesting chartreuse...used the word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.234.63 (talk) 23:35, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

hex triplet
sorry no account yet, I'll get one soon. Anyways, the hex code does not match with the RGB code, maybe triplet means that both digits have to be the same but I doubt it cuz that's kinda counterintuitive. Not sure which is correct, just though tI'd point it out.--70.137.159.77 07:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

modern day usage
In my experience, Puce has become somewhat of the one color that nobody knows about. This article briefly touches on it but I think can be more direct about it. Of course, it's my experience, has anyone else say, have a teacher quiz you on what color puce is? --70.137.159.77 07:14, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Silly Colors: The book Science Made Stupid allocated puce, along with such colors as mauve and ecru, to the Risible Spectrum. WHPratt (talk) 15:27, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Popular culture: I think there was a Beetle Bailey comic strip wherein Sergeant Snorkel inspects the kitchen and sticks a paper star on the wall. The chef had been hoping for gold or silver, but gets one in puce, and dubs it a "sarcastic" star or some such. WHPratt (talk) 17:12, 26 January 2011 (UTC) That's "sarcastic." Sorry. WHPratt (talk) 12:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

"Puce Green"
Did no one else grow up with the color he "puce green"? In the usage I grew up with, it's an unpleasant pale brownish yellow-green, much like mashed peas. Some might also call it "baby sh*t green". Does anyone know where this usage came from. A google search shows it to me a very common usage. It warrants mentioning certainly, but I'm not sure what to say about it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Natureguy1980 (talk • contribs) 06:59, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

I've always thought puce was a pukey orange color. Not sure where I got that idea from!
 * I kinda had thought the same thing, since I remember reading a book where this girl dyed her orange shoes baby blue, and ended up with "puce", so I assumed it was some brownish-orange puke color. 129.64.141.43 16:55, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know what all the regional variations are, but there is no such color as puce green. "Puke" (note the K) can be used to qualify other colors as sickly-appearing (e.g. "puke green" or "puke orange").  "Puce" has a long history in the world of fashion and design that has always been in the purple spectrum. Alki (talk) 05:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I was brought up in Suffolk in the 60s & 70s with references to the colour 'puce green'. A disagreement with my husband who was describing the colour of the sky tonight led me to googling the definition, so I was relieved to find someone else who thought 'puce' was a greenish yellow colour. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cuckoo63 (talk • contribs) 19:52, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I was brought up in Kansas thinking puce was a sickly yellowish-green or brownish-yellow... I think my ma told me that... I think a color close to it was "baby sh*t yellow"... imagine my surprise today to find out puce is also a nice dusky purply-rose color... 75.62.131.249 (talk) 15:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I, too, thought puce was a sickly, yellow green color. I don't know where I got that from but I'm 53 yrs old and well-read writer
 * , so I would think I learned it somewh scholasticere. Perhaps, I got it from somethibasedrin om Europe, wh,ere I just r,ead the people think of puce as a greenish co, as opposed to purple-ish brown. r. ead 64.67.152.166 (talk) 10:38, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

yes, PUCE GREEN was definitely in use, growing up in the San Fernando Valley, Los  Angeles, in the 70s and 80s, mostly used in reference to some God-awful color, usually worn by someone whose taste you wanted to ridicule and sometimes followed by ″Gag me!″, being in Valley Girl territory. yes, A GROSS GREEN.

Yes, I too grew up with puce green as the yellowish green / dark mustard color. I think the confusion comes in, that puce and puce green are two different colors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Savannadance (talk • contribs) 21:00, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I think it's more likely that a few people thought that the word 'puce' sounded like it should describe an unpleasant green color -- possibly because it sounds like 'puke.' And the more they misused it, the more the misuse caught on and spread because, after all, it does sound kind of right. But it's not. There's no such thing as puce green outside of these odd pockets of misappropriation of the word. Krychek (talk) 18:17, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't think the entry should be describing any colour as "unpleasant" - as that's an entirely subjective judgement. And colours can be perceived as "pleasant" in some contexts, and "unpleasant" in others. 123.243.109.109 (talk) 02:01, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect Colour Reference
I find it quite annoying that someone would be so careless as to assign a colour in the rosy pink range to an article describing the colour "puce". This is extremely inaccurate, and is a disservice to those who are trying to find out what this colour truly entails.

Go to Dictionary.com and search on "puce" - the responses talk about either purplish-brown or a range from dark red to purplish brown. An older hard copy dictionary I have gives "Flea-colour, purple-brown".

Look at the etymology:

1787, from Fr. puce "flea," from L. pucilem (nom. pulex) "flea," cognate with Skt. plusih, Gk. psylla, O.C.S. blucha, Lith. blusa, Arm. lu "flea." It is the color of a flea.

Source: Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper

Every other reference I have seen, whether in print or showing a colour, refers to a shade in the dark red-brown or purple-brown category.

Although I could edit this page easily to remove the word references to the colour pink, I don't know how to edit the colour references. Would someone who has this knowledge please correct this page???

Nanaimo12 00:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

 * That etymology needs to be checked. Fleas are generally various shades of brown, and their sternites are not usually (as the article presently claims) a purplish color, or indeed colored noticeably different. Pulex irritans might be considered dark chestnut or sienna, but that's about as close to "puce" as fleas get. At an arm's lenght, i.e. as non-biologists would usually encounter them, fleas are essentially black (think cat/dog fleas, they do not look that different).
 * As far as I remember it, "puce" as a color term is something of an euphemism and refers to the color of the stain of digested blood left after a flea has been killed - which is achieved by pinching/shredding it with the fingernails (as these buggers are notoriously laterally compressed and cannot be crushed or swatted like other insects). This will cause the flea's last meal to squirt out; think droplet of half-congealed (but very liquid, due to the flea's digestive enzymes) blood. On linen or similar fabric, this yields a stain of a color quite like #CC8899; it is not the dark rusty color of an old (oxydized) bloodstain.
 * Human fleas are rare these days, bedbugs are more commonly seen and produce a comparable effect, but the adults contain much more blood.

puce by woody alan
one more reference to puce in earlier decades is on "The Woody Allen Special from September 21, 1969 - which was part of TV series called The Kraft Music Hall."87.70.198.152 (talk) 13:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)toli

Phantom of the Opera
At the beginning of Act II, in the song Masquerade, the line goes "Flash of mauve, splash of puce," (Not a profound reference, perhaps, but it sticks in my head every time I see the word puce) 4:00, July 22, 2013 (UTC) - AK2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ByakkoChan (talk • contribs)

"Something in ... puce." by Napoleon Solo in The Man from U.N.C.L.E.
In an episode of the 1960's American TV show, The Man from U.N.C.L.E., the protagonist, superspy Napoleon Solo, enters a fashionable women's clothing store while chasing an enemy agent. The store clerk, a woman, asks something like "Can I help you with anything, Sir?" He says "I'd like to see something in ... puce." She went off to check and Solo continued on. That seemed SO sophisticated at the time. None of us watching the show together knew what colour "puce" was, and we were duly impressed by such suaveness.70.130.199.233 (talk) 05:01, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Inconsistent approach to TV references
The TV shows from the UK are referred to as the either "the BBC TV series" or the "British TV series" but the US originated series are not referred to as "the FOX TV series", "CBS TV series" or even "US TV Series". Is there not a Wikipedia standard for references like this that can be used for consistency?

Oh and why are the TV series "Rise and fall of Reginald Perrin" referenced but not the original novel?82.43.131.168 (talk) 10:29, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

This color is messed up
I did a little research trying to confirm my sources together. The more I search the less that colour seem defined. I concluded that puce is 50% saturation, 50% luminance in ANY hue but a small tendency toward 10° due to fleas color.

The most reliable sources I found suggest to ban that color name. I won't do any kind of OR on the main article, but I'm close to have enough sources.

One can search on colourlover ([]) to understand how undefined that color name really is. Iluvalar (talk) 22:24, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

 * Well, Google images returns more of what's in the infobox than any other colour. The link you provide shows the both kinds. It's all probably okay. I don't really see to many other variants. Would you say calamine lotion is puce? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:14, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Possible removal from list
An entry in List of colors: A–F contained a link to this page.

The entry is :

 * Deep puce

An entry in List of colors: N–Z contained a link to this page.

The entry is :

 * Puce red

I don't see any evidence that this color is discussed in this article (although there is an intriguing entry in the references) and plan to delete it from the list per this discussion: Talk:List_of_colors

If someone decides that this color should have a section in this article and it is added, I would appreciate a ping.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  12:51, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Gutted!
This article had an interesting discussion of "puce" as a concept, as something difficult to define and poorly understood, with a rich cultural history of uses. Was it necessary to delete all that and reduce it to an RGB definition. Was it somehow unfair to other obscure color hues? WHPratt (talk) 16:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Pierolapithecus

Single-origin hypothesis
I removed the reference to the single-origin hypothesis from the Pierolaptihecus catalunicus article because the single-origin hypothesis refers to the idea that anatomically modern humans (homo sapiens) evolved from other species of homo in Africa rather than in Europe and/or Asia. It doesn't have anything to do with where the common ancestor of the gorilla and the chimp/human lines of great apes may have lived. Rusty Cashman 20:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

13 million years ago
wouldn't it be a little better if the article said the the thing was believed to live 13 million years ago instead of it lived 13 million years ago? Carbon dating does fail sometimes doesn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.222.38.8 (talk) 16:32, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

 * Carbon dating would certainly fail if used to date a fossil of this age, given that carbon dating is only effective to about 60,000 years. Fortunately, carbon dating wasn't used, so it's not a concern.  --BRPierce (talk) 14:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
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 * Pierolapithecus catalaunicus (Pau) a l'Institut Català de Paleontologia Miquel Crusafont.JPG

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File deletion

File deletion is the removal of a file from a computer's file system.

All operating systems include commands for deleting files (rm on Unix and Linux, era in CP/M and DR-DOS, del/erase in MS-DOS/PC DOS, DR-DOS, Microsoft Windows etc.). File managers also provide a convenient way of deleting files. Files may be deleted one-by-one, or a whole blacklist directory tree may be deleted.

Purpose
Examples of reasons for deleting files are:
 * Freeing the disk space
 * Removing duplicate or unnecessary data to avoid confusion
 * Making sensitive information unavailable to others
 * Removing an operating system or blanking a hard drive

Accidental removal
A common problem with deleting files is the accidental removal of information that later proves to be important. A common method to prevent this is to back up files regularly. Erroneously deleted files may then be found in archives.

Another technique often used is not to delete files instantly, but to move them to a temporary directory whose contents can then be deleted at will. This is how the "recycle bin" or "trash can" works. Microsoft Windows and Apple's macOS, as well as some Linux distributions, all employ this strategy.

In MS-DOS, one can use the undelete command. In MS-DOS the "deleted" files are not really deleted, but only marked as deleted—so they could be undeleted during some time, until the disk blocks they used are eventually taken up by other files. This is how data recovery programs work, by scanning for files that have been marked as deleted. As the space is freed up per byte, rather than per file, this can sometimes cause data to be recovered incompletely. Defragging a drive may prevent undeletion, as the blocks used by deleted file might be overwritten since they are marked as "empty".

Another precautionary measure is to mark important files as read-only. Many operating systems will warn the user trying to delete such files. Where file system permissions exist, users who lack the necessary permissions are only able to delete their own files, preventing the erasure of other people's work or critical system files.

Sensitive data
The common problem with sensitive data is that deleted files are not really erased and so may be recovered by interested parties. Most file systems only remove the link to data. But even overwriting parts of the disk with something else or formatting it may not guarantee that the sensitive data is completely unrecoverable. Special software is available that overwrites data, and modern (post-2001) ATA drives include a secure erase command in firmware. However, high-security applications and high-security enterprises can sometimes require that a disk drive be physically destroyed to ensure data is not recoverable, as microscopic changes in head alignment and other effects can mean even such measures are not guaranteed. When the data is encrypted only the encryption key has to be unavailable. Crypto-shredding is the practice of 'deleting' data by (only) deleting or overwriting the encryption keys.

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Axes

Axes, plural of axe and of axis, may refer to

 * Axes (album), a 2005 rock album by the British band Electrelane
 * a possibly still empty plot (graphics)

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Andreas Divus

Andreas Divus was a Renaissance scholar, about whose life little is known; in Italian he is called Andrea Divo giustinopolitano or di Capodistria, i.e. surnamed Justinopolitanus in Latin and implying an origin at Koper, now in Slovenia, which was named at different times Aegida, Justinopolis and Capodistria. He is remembered for his Latin translations of Homer; but this versio Latina, in the view of modern scholarship, may have been his editorial version of a product of a tradition going back over a century of Latin translations for "crib" (reading aid) purposes.

Translations
His Latin translations of Homer published in 1537 (Venice) were extremely literal and ad verbum (i.e. word for word). While this was the first published version of the Iliad and Odyssey in Latin, the originality of the translation of Divus has been questioned: there are very close parallels with a much earlier translation by Leontius Pilatus. They were designed to be read with the Greek originals. There were two Venice editions of 1537, by Jacob a Burgofrancho and by Melchior Sessa; they share an introduction by Pier Paolo Vergerio, born at Capodistria.

They were later republished by the jurist Obertus Giphanius (Hubrecht van Giffen, 1534–1604) and then used by Jean de Sponde (Spondanus) in his 1583 Homer commentary on Greek and Latin versions. The Greek was the 1572 (Strassburg) edition of Giphanius. What Spondanus included for Latin was not in fact the original translation of Divus, but a 1570 Geneva revision of it, with substantial changes.

They were used by George Chapman in his translations of the Iliad and Odyssey. In fact Chapman is considered to have used the Homer edition by de Sponde, which had parallel Greek and Latin text (the Latin derived from Divus), together with a Greek lexicon attributed to Johannes Scapula, a collaborator of the printer Henri Estienne. It has been said that Chapman's knowledge of Greek was not strong enough to resist entirely the Latin of Divus, with infelicitous results.

Divus was also used more directly by Ezra Pound in his long poem The Cantos, in particular for the opening Canto I ("Lie quiet Divus. I mean, that is Andreas Divus, In officina Wecheli, 1538, out of Homer"). The end of Canto I also references Latin translations of the Homeric Hymns published with the original translations of Divus, these being by Georgius Dartona known as Cretensis (the Cretan).

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Horndean

Horndean is a village and civil parish in the East Hampshire district, in Hampshire, England, 8 mi north of Portsmouth.

The nearest railway station is 2.2 mi southeast of the village at Rowlands Castle.

The village had a population of 12,942 at the 2011 Census, and shares the semi-rural character of others in the district.

The village was the home of Gales Brewery from 1850. In 2005, it was bought by Fuller, Smith and Turner, who closed it in 2006, when it was converted to shops and flats.

History
Horndean expanded in the early Middle Ages due to its convenient position as a staging post on the road from Portsmouth to London (now the A3). In 1836 it became home to the Hon. Sir Charles Napier Senior, father to the more famous Sir Charles Napier, who purchased a property in the village called The Grove but subsequently changed its name to Merchistoun Hall (named after his former home in Falkirk, Scotland). Merchistoun Hall is now a Grade II listed building and serves as the village's major community centre. Horndean was bypassed by main line railways but was served by trams of the Portsdown and Horndean Light Railway until 1935 and thereafter by buses.

A three-storey workhouse was built during Victorian times to home the local poor. This stood on a site currently developed into a large retirement complex in 2017/18. This building had served a number of purposes including a local swimming pool. This was its primary function during the 1970s, provided by the use of a large polythene lined 'tank' on its ground floor.

Using the pool was a fairly unpleasant experience by today's standards due to its small size, lack of poolside space and most of all - daylight. The first and second floors were used in latter years as a small lampshade factory. Defunct and dangerous, the entire building was demolished in spring 1982, leaving a small building that was closed and eventually demolished with the construction of the new retirement development in 2017.

The village experienced significant expansion in the 20th century, particularly with the building of the Hazleton estate on the former grounds of Merchistoun Hall in the early 1960s, and the building of the A3(M) motorway in the 1970s, which passes under a bridge adjacent to the village centre. The easy access to the motorway has encouraged an influx of light industry to the village, most of it concentrated in three major estates, the most recent of which is Hazelton Interchange, built in the early 1990s. The centre of the village has a 1960s built small shopping precinct which is home to specialist businesses, as well as a cafe, fast food and newsagent.

In 1992, Horndean was the site of the high-profile child murder of Helen Gorrie, who was found strangled to death after going out one night to meet local man John Corcoran. He was convicted of the murder in 1999 but was released on a technicality in 2003 and moved back to Warren Park in Havant. Her murder remains officially unsolved.

Toponomy
Dean refers to the old English word "denu" meaning valley, and the name Horndean most likely means "valley by a horn-shaped hill" (the horn-shaped hill probably being Horndean Down). Alternatively "Harne" is the old English word for Dormouse making it "valley of the Dormouse". The second part of the name, Dean, can also mean forest, giving rise to further connotations.

Community
Horndean's major community centres are Horndean Community Association at Merchistoun Hall and Barton Hall, Horndean Technology College. There is also a youth centre, RKdia. Other venues include Napier Hall, which was partially rebuilt in 2004, and the Jubilee Hall, opened in 2002. The two C of E churches in the area are Holy Trinity at Blendworth and All Saints in neighbouring Catherington. In 2020, Hampshire County Council announced plans to close Horndean library.

The surrounding villages are Catherington, Cowplain, Blendworth, Rowlands Castle and Clanfield.

Sport and leisure
Horndean has a Non-League football club Horndean F.C., which plays at Five Heads Park.

Twinning
The village of Horndean has been 'twinned' with the town of Aubergenville in France since 1998. Various activities and exchange visits are organised by the Horndean Parish Twinning Association.
 * Aubergenville, France

Politics
Horndean is in the Meon Valley constituency for elections to the House of Commons. Prior to Brexit in 2020, it was in the South East England constituency for elections to the European Parliament.

Media
ITV Meridian and BBC South are the local ITV and BBC television franchises. ITV Meridian and BBC South is received from the Rowridge transmitting station, on the Isle of Wight (though some parts towards Clanfield use the Horndean relay transmitter, which uses Rowridge as the signal feed for the relay station).

Radio services are received from Chillerton Down, on the Isle of Wight.

The local newspapers and publications are The Village News (free) and  The News.

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HHP

HHP may refer to:

 * East Carolina University College of Health and Human Performance
 * Hand Held Products, a manufacturer of linear and 2D handheld barcode scanners
 * Happy Home Paradise, downloadable content for the 2020 video game Animal Crossing: New Horizons
 * Helping Hand Party, a political party in British Columbia, Canada
 * Henry Hudson Parkway, a parkway in New York City.
 * High hydrostatic pressure processing, of food
 * Hilton Head Preparatory School, in South Carolina, United States
 * Hip Hop Pantsula (born 1980), South African hip-hop artist
 * Philippine Air Force
 * Shun Tak Heliport, in Hong Kong
 * University of Florida College of Health and Human Performance

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File:MontyPythonFinalRipOffCoverLarger.jpg

Larger version of the cover of Monty Python's The Final Ripoff.

Fair use in The Final Rip Off
Though this image is subject to copyright, its use is covered by the U.S. fair use laws because:
 * 1) It's a low resolution copy of a CD/album cover.
 * 2) It doesn't limit the copyright owner's rights to sell the CD/album in any way, in fact, it may encourage sales.
 * 3) Because of the low resolution, copies could not be used to make illegal copies of the album artwork on another CD.
 * 4) The image is itself a subject of discussion in the article or used in the infobox thereof.
 * 5) The image on the cover is significant because it was made by a famous artist.

Source

 * 1) Derived from a digital capture (scan/photo) of the album/CD cover (creator of this digital version is irrelevant as the copyright in all equivalent images is still held by the same party). Copyright held by the record company or the artist. Claimed as fair use regardless.


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Talk:Taman Johor Jaya

For a December 2004 deletion debate over this page see Votes for deletion/Taman Johor Jaya

As has been noted on Votes_for_deletion/Taman_Johor_Jaya, this article has very little specific information as it is, and could be about most housing projects anywhere. I suggest that it would be improved by reducing its length, and just noting the most essential facts, like where it is located, when it was built, its population and so on. --MaxMad 12:46, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

After discussion on Votes for deletion/Taman Johor Jaya I rewrite completly the article trying to keep the local color to it, with some mentions about what seams nice spots for people. What do you think ? Gtabary 10:32, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

User and author User:Chan Han Xiang ignore vfd consensus. He rides alone. Almost a month of effort talking for nothing. Why ? Gtabary 20:26, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'm in agreement with you here. I'm leaving a note on his talk page, as a disinterested outsider, since he distrusts you. hfool/Wazzup? 23:57, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I tried to add a little more info, since that is the root of the problem, that User:Chan Han Xiang doesn't think that the revisions are keeping the information intact. I see noting wrong with the page as-is; it could use a little expansion in less specific directions (perhaps a little more info on who lives here, the size of this city in relation to other cities. Just a little context.)  hfool/Wazzup? 02:00, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I made it more succinct, and removed some idiosyncratic information concerning the cake shops and the like. The precise layout of the commercial, housing, and industrial zones is a bit too much detail for a general encyclopedia article. It isn't detailed enough to be of much use to anyone visiting the place, and too detailed for anybody else. --BM 18:56, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Omega and the Mechanical Animals

Omega and the Mechanical Animals
A fictitious band that appears (in a fleeting instant) on a Marilyn Manson album when a voice says something like "and now Omega and the Mechanical Animals". Less notable, IMO, than those one-off Simpson objects and characters that are removed regularly. --LeeHunter 12:47, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: Trivia. Imagine all the fictional references in Beatles songs, and Who songs, and all of Jethro Tull's stuff....  Definitely not.  Geogre 14:58, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. GOOPTI. Now I need to get back to editing the article for "Ricky and the Balloons"... -- Antaeus Feldspar 18:43, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, else I'll write an article about Johnny Zhivago (from A Clockwork Orange) Wyss 20:02, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: The other band name mentioned in A Clockwork Orange was "Heaven 17," and, of course, a very, very bad band did form with that name.  (No, not a List of bands named after references in movies, please.) Geogre 14:09, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * It wasn't from a movie exactly, but let's not forget Toad the Wet Sprocket. Oh dear, we're really encouraging them now, aren't we... -R. fiend 23:43, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. And I concur with Geogre's remarks. Jacob1207 21:42, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, it's interesting and there's probably more to say about it. Everyking 22:53, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Or redirect to Mechanical Animals.  But it is worthless as is. Gamaliel 22:58, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. DCEdwards1966 00:14, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete* Otherwise, we'll be besieged with "Jet Silver and the Dolls from Venus", and hundreds of other once-witty, now-obscure lyrical band references.Gurdonark 01:36, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Redirect and include the info in the relevant article. T.PK 03:45, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. And let's not forget "I Dig a Pygmy" by Charles Hautrey and the Deaf-aids (is that what he says? Can't tell for sure). -R. fiend 07:19, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not even a real band. Just a brief song lyric. Very nonnotable. --Improv 22:06, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Mechanical Animals. —tregoweth 21:09, Dec 12, 2004 (UTC)


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User talk:Balakmeteja

Hello padmasri here is a very intresting website we can create a page and it can be edited by u through internet and u can propose any chages and infact u can really edit the page created by me and vice versa this is a sample page edit this ok na bye bye

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michinoue-no-Mikoto

Michinoue-no-Mikoto
Unverifiable substub. Zero Google hits not counting Wikipedia mirrors. jni 12:49, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * According to unverified rumours, this article should be deleted. David Johnson 15:45, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Encyclopedias should not allow unverified information, so the current form of the article, which reports an 'unverified rumour' with no further expansion, is not a useful or valid article. Anyone wishing to keep it should expand it with verifiable information, otherwise it should be deleted. Average Earthman 16:25, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: Notability of the figure within the sport is questionable, and without verification, we have no business reporting it. This is a matter of whether it's appropriate in an encyclopedia.  We do not advocate, endorse, nor create legitimacy.  We can only report the things that are verifiably true.  Geogre 19:46, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete Wyss 19:56, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: The reference external link (dooble.de) someone inserted into the article leads to a page that is an old duplicate of our page ninjutsu. The dooble.de page lists Wikipedia as its source of information. Here are some ideas where to look for information: 1) Do a Google search within Japanese language pages only. 2) The suffix no-Mikoto hints that this could be a not well-known kami of shinto pantheon. Conduct a search using dead-tree encyclopedias of Japanese religion, preferable Japanese-language ones (probably more complete than Western ones, can anyone throw some references here?). I would appreciate if someone who is fluent in Japanese would do at least cursory checks, I can't find anything from the materials I have access to. Even if a minor kami of this name could be found, I really doubt there exists any historically reliable material that supports the dubious reference to ninjutsu, but maybe an encyclopedia article of the kami could be written instead. jni 06:21, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: facinating, all google hits are almost exact copies Fledgeling 03:49, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)


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Talk:Cloelia

Favorite Food
Deleted the part about her favorite food, as it was unnecessary and did not fit into the article well. If a section about her personal life was added, and could be verified by Roman literature, then it should be added back. --138.237.141.222 (talk) 20:27, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Roman Women
— Assignment last updated by Branskk (talk) 01:21, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

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Oxcart

Oxcart or ox cart can mean:
 * Bullock cart, a cart pulled by oxen
 * CIA codename for the program to produce the Lockheed A-12 reconnaissance aircraft

See also:
 * Ox-Cart Library
 * Ox-Cart Man
 * Red River ox cart

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Hand Held Products

Hand Held Products (previously HHP) was a US electronics manufacturer, established in 1981 in North Carolina. The company was a manufacturer of linear and 2D handheld barcode scanners based on imaging technology. Its product range included rugged mobile computers, image kiosks, and barcode verification devices. Its range of data collection and communication products were designed for mobile, on-site, and transaction processing applications. In 2007, the company was subsumed into the Honeywell Group.

History
The Hand Held Products company, established in 1981 in Charlotte, North Carolina, began as a manufacturer of memory modules for Hewlett-Packard and Texas Instruments programmable calculators, and grew rapidly from 1983 thanks to an RFP hand-off by Hewett-Packard, as the package delivery company Federal Express selected their Micro-Wand portable data collection device to begin a proof of delivery system for package tracking.

In 1996, Hand Held Products launched a mobile computer with 2D imaging technology, the Dolphin 7200. In 1997, the Hand Held Product's Dolphin portable computer was selected by the United States Postal Service to be part of their proof of delivery system, although a third party provided the manufacturing. The deal was the industry's largest ever single order, at 300,000 units. In 2006–2007 United States Postal Service started replacing these portable computers with Motorola portable computers (370,000 units), which had bar code reading hardware (2D imager) and decoding and image processing software designed and supplied by Hand Held Products.

The company became HHP in late 1999, following a merger with Welch Allyn Data Collection, a subsidiary of Welch Allyn formed in 1972, which by the 1990s was manufacturing a complete line of handheld bar code readers. From then, the company had its company headquarters in New York.

Hand Held Products had a significant presence in Europe, with its EMEA headquarters and European repair center in Eindhoven, Netherlands. It also has offices in the UK, Germany and France and sales representation and resellers in most countries in Europe, the Middle East and Africa. Hand Held Products also has offices in Latin America and Asia.

On January 1, 2005, the company dropped HHP as its brand name and returned to its original name Hand Held Products.

On October 15, 2007, Hand Held Products announced they had agreed with Honeywell to be purchased for $390 million. On December 20, 2007 Honeywell’s acquisition of Hand Held was approved, and Hand Held became a new line of business within the Honeywell Security Group, initially called Honeywell Imaging and mobility. With Honeywell's acquisition of Metrologic in 2008 they renamed the business unit Honeywell Scanning and Mobility.

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Leroy P. Steele Prize

The Leroy P. Steele Prizes are awarded every year by the American Mathematical Society, for distinguished research work and writing in the field of mathematics. Since 1993, there has been a formal division into three categories.

The prizes have been given since 1970, from a bequest of Leroy P. Steele, and were set up in honor of George David Birkhoff, William Fogg Osgood and William Caspar Graustein. The way the prizes are awarded was changed in 1976 and 1993, but the initial aim of honoring expository writing as well as research has been retained. The prizes of $5,000 are not given on a strict national basis, but relate to mathematical activity in the USA, and writing in English (originally, or in translation).

Steele Prize for Lifetime Achievement

 * 2024 Haïm Brezis
 * 2023 Nicholas M. Katz
 * 2022 Richard P. Stanley
 * 2021 Spencer Bloch
 * 2020 Karen Uhlenbeck
 * 2019 Jeff Cheeger
 * 2018 Jean Bourgain
 * 2017 James G. Arthur
 * 2016 Barry Simon
 * 2015 Victor Kac
 * 2014 Phillip A. Griffiths
 * 2013 Yakov G. Sinai
 * 2012 Ivo M. Babuška
 * 2011 John W. Milnor
 * 2010 William Fulton
 * 2009 Luis Caffarelli
 * 2008 George Lusztig
 * 2007 Henry P. McKean
 * 2006 Frederick W. Gehring, Dennis P. Sullivan
 * 2005 Israel M. Gelfand
 * 2004 Cathleen Synge Morawetz
 * 2003 Ronald Graham, Victor Guillemin
 * 2002 Michael Artin, Elias Stein
 * 2001 Harry Kesten
 * 2000 Isadore M. Singer
 * 1999 Richard V. Kadison
 * 1998 Nathan Jacobson
 * 1997 Ralph S. Phillips
 * 1996 Goro Shimura
 * 1995 John T. Tate
 * 1994 Louis Nirenberg
 * 1993 Eugene B. Dynkin

Leroy P. Steele Prizes awarded prior to 1993

 * 1992 Jacques Dixmier for his books von Neumann Algebras (Algèbres de von Neumann ), Gauthier-Villars, Paris (1957); C*-Algebras (Les C*-Algèbres et leurs Representations ), Gauthier-Villars, Paris (1964); and Enveloping Algebras (Algèbres Enveloppantes ), Gauthier-Villars, Paris (1974).
 * 1992 James Glimm for his paper, Solution in the large for nonlinear hyperbolic systems of conservation laws, Communications on Pure and Applied Mathematics, XVIII (1965), pp. 697–715.
 * 1992: Peter D. Lax for his numerous and fundamental contributions to the theory and applications of linear and nonlinear partial differential equations and functional analysis, for his leadership in the development of computational and applied mathematics, and for his extraordinary impact as a teacher.
 * 1991: Jean-François Treves for Pseudodifferential and Fourier Integral Operators, Volumes 1 and 2 (Plenum Press, 1980).
 * 1991 Eugenio Calabi for his fundamental work on global differential geometry, especially complex differential geometry.
 * 1991 Armand Borel for his extensive contributions in geometry and topology, the theory of Lie groups, their lattices and representations and the theory of automorphic forms, the theory of algebraic groups and their representations and extensive organizational and educational efforts to develop and disseminate modern
 * 1990 R. D. Richtmyer for his book Difference Methods for Initial-Value Problems (Interscience, 1st Edition 1957 and 2nd Edition, with K. Morton, 1967).
 * 1990 Bertram Kostant for his paper, On the existence and irreducibility of certain series of representations, Lie Groups and their Representations (1975), pp. 231–329.
 * 1990 Raoul Bott for having been instrumental in changing the face of geometry and topology, with his incisive contributions to characteristic classes, K-theory, index theory, and many other tools of modern mathematics.
 * 1989 Daniel Gorenstein for his book Finite Simple Groups, An Introduction to their Classification (Plenum Press, 1982); and his two survey articles The Classification of Finite Simple Groups and Classifying the Finite Simple Groups, Bulletin of the American Mathematical Society, volume 1 (1979) pp. 43–199, and volume 14 (1986) pp. 1–98, respectively.
 * 1989 Alberto Calderón for his paper Uniqueness in the Cauchy Problem for Partial Differential Equations, American Journal ofMathematics, volume 80 (1958), pp. 16–36.
 * 1989 Irving Kaplansky for his lasting impact on mathematics, particularly mathematics in America. By his energetic example, his enthusiastic exposition, and his overall generosity, he has made striking changes in mathematics and has inspired generations of younger mathematicians.
 * 1988 Sigurdur Helgason for his books Differential Geometry and Symmetric Spaces (Academic Press, 1962), Differential Geometry, Lie Groups, and Symmetric Spaces (Academic Press, 1978); and Groups and Geometric Analysis (Academic Press, 1984).
 * 1988 Gian-Carlo Rota for his paper On the foundations of combinatorial theory, I. Theory of Möbius functions, Zeitschrift für Wahrscheinlichkeitstheorie und Verwandte Gebiete, volume 2 (1964), pp. 340–368.
 * 1988 Deane Montgomery for his lasting impact on mathematics, particularly mathematics in America. He is one of the founders of the modern theory of transformation groups and is particularly known for his contributions to the solution of Hilbert's fifth problem.
 * 1987 Martin Gardner for his many books and articles on mathematics and particularly for his column "Mathematical Games" in Scientific American.
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Akash Bansal
Not notable. Vanity. Author of a non-notable book. (Here is the link). An IP edit by 210.214.82.176, who has also contributed to Antara (where he's mentioned 'Akash Bansal'). Delete. utcursch 12:57, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)
 * Please note that User:210.214.96.117 attempted to delete this listing. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 10:52, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

 * Delete. Not really vanity, but the book seems quite non-notable. Hope its author would contribute some brilliant prose to Wikipedia, if he's so talented the Hindustan Times link says. jni 13:15, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. vanity rturus 15:14, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete Insufficient evidence of notability Wyss 20:00, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)


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IIP

IIP may refer to:

Organizations

 * Indian Institute of Packaging
 * Bureau of International Information Programs
 * Indian Institute of Petroleum
 * International Ice Patrol
 * International Institute for Peace
 * Investors In People
 * Irish Independence Party
 * International Inventories Programme

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 * Idiopathic interstitial pneumonia
 * Internet Imaging Protocol, an imaging protocol implemented on top of HTTP
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 * I2P, the Invisible Internet Project, an anonymous communications network
 * II-p or IIp, a subtype of Type II supernova
 * Ion imprinted polymer

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Aspmyra Stadion

Aspmyra Stadion is a football stadium in Bodø, Norway. Home of Bodø/Glimt and Grand Bodø, it holds a seated capacity for 8,270 spectators. The venue has four stands: a modern all-seater with roof, 100 club seats and 15 luxury boxes to the south, unroofed all-seater stands to the east and west and two stands to the north. An older raised grandstand with roofing at the back and a new (built 2022) all-seater unroofed stand in front. Before this new stand was built the area in front of the old stand was a standing area that could hold approximately 2000 people, but did not fulfill UEFA safety regulations for international matches. The venue has floodlights and artificial turf with under-soil heating. Immediately south of the venue lies Aspmyra kunstgressbane, a training pitch with artificial turf. Aspmyra Stadion has hosted one Norway national football team match, against Iceland in 2002.

The venue opened in 1966 as a municipal multi-purpose stadium which included a running track. Glimt reached the top-flight in 1977, and played Cup Winners' Cup matches in the late 1970s at Aspmyra. The venue had a slight upgrade in 1980, which also saw the laying of all-weather running track and the construction of the training pitch. In 1992, the pitch was resowed, forcing Glimt to play a season in Nordlandshallen, which since has been used twice for Norwegian top division matches. Aspmyra Stadion was sold to Glimt in 1997, followed by the construction of the south and east stands. This involved removing the running track and building commercial and residential properties around the venue. Artificial turf was laid in 2006. After the club received illegal public subsidies in 2008 and had to upgrade the venue, it was in 2011 sold back to the municipality.

History
After the establishment of Bodø/Glimt in 1916 and Grand Bodø the following year, the clubs played at various locations throughout the town. The primary venue for the clubs' elite teams was Bodø Station. By 1962, plans had surfaced for a central stadium for the prime sports clubs. The interest spurred a large protest meeting organized by the various sports clubs in town in support of the municipality building a new venue. Two locations were considered: at Plassmyra, now the location of the Norwegian Aviation Museum, and at Aspmyra. The latter was chosen and the plans were passed by the municipal council in 1963.

Construction started in 1965, with the completion of a grass pitch, a 400 m running track and a grandstand consisting of wooden benches for 2,500 spectators. Steel terraces were built on the outer parts of the grandstand site and the other long side. To the south of the stadium, Glimt built an air-supported training hall, which they named Glimtbobla ('The Glimt Bubble'). The inaugural match at Aspmyra was played in 1966 between the boys' teams of Glimt and Grand in 1966. In 1980, an all-weather running track was installed and a training pitch with artificial turf, named Aspmyra kunstgressbane, was built south of the stadium.

In 1989, a project was started to bring Bodø/Glimt back to the top league. Among the most important issues was to secure better training facilities, particularly during the Arctic winter. The club proposed upgrading the artificial turf field at Aspmyra with a new field with under-soil heating, in addition to constructing both a new gravel pitch and an indoor training hall with a full-size pitch. The Municipal Committee for Sport and Culture stated that they wanted to prioritize the artificial turf field over a gravel pitch. They therefore proposed that NOK 3.5 million be allocated to lay under-soil heating on the artificial turf pitch and remove the turf. New artificial turf would be laid at a later date, when funding could be allocated. This was agreed upon, construction started on 24 October 1989 and was scheduled for completion ahead of the winter training. However, the Football Association of Norway (NFF) stated that the club would not be allowed to play their matches on a gravel pitch, and the grass at Aspmyra was in so bad condition that it would not be permitted for play in the top league, should the team be promoted. The municipal council therefore gave grants to finance a new artificial turf on the training pitch, which was taken into use in 1990.

Construction of Nordlandshallen—an indoor football venue for winter training—started in 1990 and was completed on 21 September 1991. In 1991, the debate regarding laying a new pitch at the stadium resurfaced. NFF granted permission for Glimt to use Nordlandshallen for the 1992 season, on condition that Aspmyra was ready for use for the 1993 season. The municipality lacked funds for a new pitch, so the parties agreed that the club would borrow NOK 3.5 million to pay for the renovation. The club would pay the interest on the loan until it was taken over by the municipality, but until then, Bodø/Glimt would not pay rent on the stadium. If the municipality was to finance the renovation in a regular manner, funds could not be allocated until the following year, which would cause two seasons to be lost. The new pitch included under-soil heating.

In 1994, Bodø/Glimt started making plans to expand Aspmyra to allow it to host UEFA matches. The company Aspmyra Eiendomsutvikling was established to finance the project and own the stands. Details were presented in 1996, which consisted of the company being given the Aspmyra lot, worth NOK 15 million, from the municipality. The initial plans called for seated stands for 10,000 spectators—a quarter of the town's population—48 apartments and 15000 m2 of commercial property. Funding was proposed to come from selling the residential and commercial properties and grants from NFF and the Ministry of Culture. The project also included new floodlights and a new club house. The municipal chief of administration, Svein Blix, stated that the project would also have to pay for the operation of the new venue and the construction of a new athletics venue, as the plans called to remove the running tracks at Aspmyra.

The municipality gave the necessary permissions for construction in December 1997, but required that the club finance the upgrades, which the club could not afford. Kjell Ove Johansen, CEO of Bodø/Glimt's operating company, quit his job in November 1998 in protest against the mayor's and councilors' negative attitude and lack of trust towards Bodø/Glimt regarding the venue plans. On 27 January 1999, the municipal council passed a resolution allowing the venue to be sold to the club for NOK 7.9 million, with the official take-over date being 1 May. In addition, the company would pay NOK 5.5 million to the municipality at a later date, after the venue had become profitable.

Construction started in October 1999, costing NOK 140 million. A new south stand was built with a roof, offices and change rooms, while a smaller stand without a roof was built to the east. The project cost NOK 40 million less than the original plans, in part because no stands were built on the west end. The two new stands had 4,350 seats and the venue was approved for UEFA matches. However, the venue was not allowed to use the old grandstand seating or the terraces for UEFA matches. The two new stands gave the stadium seating for 6,100 and standing room for 2,000 spectators. The first match at the upgraded venue was played on 22 April 2001.

The project also included 6900 m2 of commercial property, which was rented out to 13 companies. The commercial part of the stadium was owned by Aspmyra Næringsbygg, which was again owned by several local investors. The stadium received new floodlights, which were bought used from Ullevaal Stadion in Oslo for NOK 5 million. However, there were some initial complaints from Bodø Airport as the lights were a distraction for pilots. The club also considered installing artificial turf, and applied to be UEFA's partner to receive a grant to install a pilot turf, but this was instead awarded to Eyravallen in Sweden. On 2 December 2002, Nordlandsbanken bought a third of the shares in Aspmyra Eiendomsutvikling from the club, for NOK 10 million, to avoid that the club went bankrupt. In 2003, Bodø/Glimt's spent NOK 650,000 on rent and NOK 700,000 in operating costs for the venue.

As compensation for removing the track and field sections, the stadium company had to pay for a new municipal athletics venue at Mørkvedlia. The sales stadium's contract also required Aspmyra Eiendomsutvikling to build new change room facilities for the training pitch so the uses from teams had the same quality as the main pitch. The company was criticized by the municipality in 2002 for not prioritizing this obligation. The NOK 170,000 it cost to move Grand's club house and build a change room for the artificial field was covered jointly by the municipality, Grand, Aspmyra Eiendomsutvikling and one of Glimt's sponsors, Nordland Entreprenør.

In 2003, Aspmyra Næringseiendom converted its debt, then NOK 20.5 million, to Swiss francs. Because of the transaction, within a year the company's debt had increased by 10 percent. In 2004, the stadium ownership company changed its name to Aspmyra Stadion AS. The municipality eliminated the stadium company's debt of NOK 5.5 million to the municipality in November 2005. This allowed the club's operating company to have a positive share capital and the club was thus allowed to keep its license. In May 2006, the grass pitch was replaced with artificial pitch, costing NOK 3.1 million. The training pitch received new turf in 2007.

Following Glimt's promotion to the top league in 2008, the club stated that Aspmyra was "out of date" and that investments for NOK 200 million was necessary if the club was to remain in the top tier. Chair Benn Eidissen stated that while Aspmyra was among the country's most modern venues in 2001, it would within a few years no longer be in the top-25. He identified funding from regionally differentiated payroll tax (DA-funds), public grants and funding for sponsors as the main sources of financing. Imminent upgrades to the venue for NOK 10 million were done ahead of the 2008 season—financed using DA-funds. It consisted of two specific grants, a NOK 2.2 million subsidy and a ten-year NOK 8.3 million interest and installment-free loan, both to the club. In 2009, the bank deleted NOK 5 million of the stadium debt, reducing it to NOK 14.2 million.

In 2009, Innovation Norway criticized Nordland County Municipality, who administrated the DA-funds, stating that both the grant and load to Glimt were illegal. Therefore, both were converted to an interest-bearing loan and were issued to Aspmyra Stadion instead of the club. The club is required to have positive equity to keep its license to play in the top two tiers. Because it was the majority shareholder of the stadium company, it filed consolidated accounts which also include the equity of Aspmyra Stadion AS. Thus, the consequence of Innovation Norway's proceedings was that the club risked ending up with a negative equity and could be relegated to the third tier. To secure it retained a positive equity, Glimt proposed selling the venue to the municipality.

The municipal council voted on 17 February 2011 to purchase the stadium. The strongest proponents were the Labour Party and the Conservative Party, while three parties, the Progress Party, the Liberal Party and Red Party, voted against. The proponents argued that municipality was purchasing the venue with a much higher value than what they had sold, while the opponents argued that it was not the municipality's responsibility to give financial first-aid to a professional sports club. The cost was NOK 16 million, paid for by taking over debt. After taking over the stadium company, the municipality merged it with Bodø Spektrum, which runs an indoor sports complex, including Nordlandshallen. This allows the debt to be taken over by the municipality without interfering with the municipal accounts.

The venue saw only minor improvements to the infrastructure over the next decade, but following Glimt's success in 2020 by winning the league and making its first appearance in the qualifying rounds for UEFA Champions League a new stand was built at the west end of the pitch, adding 660 seats to the stadium. During spring 2022 a new stand was built over the standing area in front of the old stand on the north side. This raised the seated capacity by approx. 1,900 to 8,270 seats total in time for the 2022 Norwegian season and together with other improvements in spectator, VIP and media facilities will bring the stadium within UEFA category 4 to be used for group stage matches in European leagues. For their 2021-22 european campaign Bodø/Glimt was given a dispensation from the capacity requirements by UEFA partly due to COVID restrictions limiting the number of spectators in any case, but the dispensation will not be extended for 2022-23.

Facilities
The venue is located in the southern part of the town center of Bodø, on Hålogalandsgata, close to Bodø Airport. The venue has a capacity for 8,270 seated spectators. The South Stand has 15 luxury boxes, each with seating for 12 people, and club seating for an additional 100 people in Aspmyra Sportsbar; this is only available for corporate sponsors. Both the sports bar and the boxes have access to dinners before the match. The stand is combined with a commercial and residential building, which is owned by Aspmyra Næringsbygg, which is again controlled by Gunvald Johansen. Bodø/Glimt's offices are located in this section, which along with the public access is rented by Glimt. Of sponsorship reasons, the South Stand is named for Diadora.

The North Stand is the oldest part of the venue and is owned by Aspmyra AS. For sponsorship reasons, it is named after Nordlandsbanken. The area behind the East Stand was bought by Bodø Boligbyggelag, who built housing there and is named after Toyota, again for sponsorship reasons. In 2010, the operating costs of the venue were NOK 2 million.

Events
Bodø/Glimt are the main tenant at Aspmyra. The record attendance dates from 1975, when 12,189 people attended a Norwegian Football Cup match against Viking. From the 1977 season, Bodø/Glimt played in the First Division, then the top tier of the pyramid. The club remained in to the top flight until it was relegated after the 1980 season. Glimt had a poor spell during the 1980s, playing several seasons in the Third Division. On 5 October 1986, Aspmyra hosted the final of the Junior Football Cup between Bodø/Glimt and Lillestrøm. At the end of 1991, Glimt was promoted to the First Division, then the second tier of the pyramid. However, in the 1992 season, the club played at Nordlandshallen. From the 1993 season, Bodø/Glimt again played in the top flight. Twice, in 1993 and 1997, the final match of the season had to be played in Nordlandshallen because of the poor condition of the turf. Following the installation of floodlights in 2001, the attendance increased by 70 percent at floodlighted evening games, resulting in an increase in the use of evening matches during the spring and fall. Glimt remained in the Premier League until the end of the 2005 season, when they were relegated. They returned again for the 2008 season, but were relegated after the 2009 seasons.

Aspmyra was used for UEFA Cup Winners' Cup matches in the late 1970s. Bodø/Glimt played Napoli in 1976–77, and Union Luxembourg and Internazionale in 1978–79. During the 1990s, Bodø/Glimt was allowed to play qualification matches for UEFA tournaments at Aspmyra, but the venue was not suitable for games in the ordinary rounds because of lack of floodlights. In the 1994–95 Cup Winners' Cup, Glimt played Olimpija Rīga at Aspmyra, but had to play against Sampdoria at Ullevaal Stadion. The team's 1996–97 UEFA Cup match against Trabzonspor was played at Ullevaal, although the qualification match against Beitar Jerusalem had been played at Aspmyra. Similarly, in the 1999–2000 UEFA Cup, the qualification against Vaduz was played at Aspmyra, while the first round match against Werder Bremen was played at Lerkendal Stadion in Trondheim. With an upgraded venue, Bodø/Glimt was again allowed to play all their home matches in UEFA tournaments at Aspmyra. In the 2004–05 UEFA Cup, Bodø/Glimt was visited by Levadia Tallinn and Beşiktaş.

In addition to Bodø/Glimt, Grand Bodø also plays matches at Aspmyra. This includes their women's team, which has previously played in the Women's Premier League. They most recently played in the top league in 2007, when they drew an average 222 spectators. During the 1980s, Grand's men's club became the town's best, playing in the Second Division, the tier above Glimt.

The venue hosted the Norwegian Athletics Championships in 1980. The following year, it held the women's semi-final in the 1981 European Cup in Athletics. Aspmyra has hosted one Norway national football team match, which resulted in 1–1 against Iceland and filling the venue with 8,126 spectators on 22 May 2002. This still stands as the venue's record attendance after the rebuilding. In August 2007, the Norwegian women's U-23 team played Sweden at Aspmyra. Concerts held at the venue include Bryan Adams in 2008. In September 2012, the venue hosted the final of the Norwegian rugby league championship between Bodø Barbarians and Oslo Capitals, which the Capitals winning 34–24.

Future
In 2008, the club stated that they would either have to renovate Aspmyra for NOK 200 million or build a new stadium elsewhere to remain competitive at a premiership level. Funding was proposed to be a mix of public and sponsor grants, including DA-funds. As part of the planning of a joint Norwegian and Swedish bid for the Euro 2016, Bodø Municipality and Bodø/Glimt proposed that Bodø could build a stadium at Rønvikjordene, in the northern part of the town. The plans were presented in late July 2008; the venue was planned to have a capacity for 30,000 to 35,000 spectators, but would be rebuilt after the tournament to seat 10,000 to 15,000. It was estimated that Bodø/Glimt would need a capacity for 10,000 to 15,000 spectators. In comparison, the population of Bodø was 46,049 in 2008. The new venue was estimated to cost NOK 500 to 700 million and was largely proposed financed with DA-funds. Minister of Culture, Trond Giske, stated that at least one of the venues would have to be in Northern Norway to receive government support for an application. Aspmyra was planned used as a training pitch. Bodø was discarded for the Scandinavian bid, which ultimately was never sent to UEFA. For Aspmyra, the municipality has stated that they have the long-term option to purchase the real estate north of the pitch and can build a new stand there. Alternatively, an estimated NOK 3 million can be used to demolish the stand and redevelop it as a commercial property.

Several possible development schemes for the stadium was presented over the coming decade, but none of them were put into action due to lack of funding and the fact that results and spectator numbers did not make better facilities necessary. Following the continued success of the club from 2019 and onward, a plan has been put forward to build a new stadium on the other side of town, with an 8–10 000 capacity. The project is being developed with a planned date of completion in fall of 2024, when Bodø will be European Capital of Culture.

title: Aspmyra Stadion