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NPOV
I don't know anything about Annabel Chong, but this article does need NPOV-ing. It's definitely written from a definite perspective, as evidenced by lines as these:

''Her work in pornography attempted to challenge the settled notions and assumptions of viewers about female sexuality. Because she did this, she was not a very popular performer among reviewers who were seeking titillation and who have a general misogynistic bent.

For example, her conception of a gangbang was based on the example of Messalina, a wife of the emperor Claudius. Messalina is not held in high regard by Roman historians, largely because of gender bias (although Messalina had other character defects as well.)''

I'm sure that the reviewers and Roman historians have some other perspectives here... Martijn Faassen 01:39, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

article discrepancies
Was it 251 men or 80? The article says "80 with 251 claimed" earlier on and then talks about the 251st man. Also needs NPOVing.

80 men recycled 251 times --ColinHunt 23:39, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

She is awesome dudes

Gang raped
I suppose any Londoner would be a bit surprised that someone can be gangraped in the London Underground. It´s closed after 1.00am, and it´s hardly ever deserted. What´s more it´s almost always very busy. I don´t know in the early 90´s, but nowadays there´s CCTV virtually everywhere. --87.102.38.45 15:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * She wasn't raped there. Whoever made that false claim had clearly never seen her documentary.  The crime took place in one of those enclosures that hold the big steel rubbish bins under a council tower block. 86.17.246.75 15:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

In 'Sex: The Annabel Chong Story' she says her place of birth was London and not in Singapore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.137.116 (talk) 20:06, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok Anabelchong (talk) 02:33, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Real name?
There seems to be a rule against listing the real name of people who use stage names, such as pornographic actors. That is all well and good. But one of the chief sources for this article's assertions also gives her real name, along with much of the information contained in this article. So if her real name is not to be mentioned here, should the source be removed as well? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.81.155.59 (talk) 19:32, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The rule against using their real name is that we require a reliable source for it. All too often a "real name" for a porn star ends up being tracked back to IMDB or some online forum, neither of which counts as reliable. Now having it mentioned in a New York Times article (even if it's just a movie review) does count as a reliable source. Tabercil (talk) 22:29, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Stage names have a quite different function for adult industry performers than others. Virtually none use their real name. Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons has a section 'Presumption in favor of privacy' about names WP:BLPPRIVACY which states that information should be reliable and not something that the person could reasonably be inferrred to have an objection to being included. Chong has in fact taken steps to conceal her personal information, so I don't think we can assume she has no objection to a slew of details on her current life appearing in the Wikipedia article which is not about her, but about a part of her life that ended a decade ago. Other articles about adult industry performers do not use the real name, for example the one on C. J. Laing,  does not mention her real name or what she currently does for a living, or her current hobbies. It does not add anything to the article to mention such details.Overagainst (talk) 12:40, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * That's taking BLPPRIVACY out of context - that only makes mention about date of birth and details such as their home address. And we do have real names of other porn stars on Wikipedia in cases where reliable sources have been found - see for instance Jenna Jameson, Stormy Daniels, Linda Lovelace, Nina Hartley, Amber Lynn, Tom Byron, Sasha Grey, Belladonna (actress), Ginger Lynn, Katie Morgan, Mary Carey (entertainer), Shyla Stylez, Nacho Vidal, Lexington Steele... Tabercil (talk) 14:47, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * On top of that, I dug through the BLP archive to see what (if any) precedent I could find that covers this circumstance. The closest I could find was this where apparently the community rejected a request from the subject to remove that she was a pornstar from her article. Tabercil (talk) 15:16, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * And speaking of BLP, I've raised the question on the topic board - see Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons Tabercil (talk) 15:24, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The factual information that the subject wanted removed was the notable thing about her. If she wanted her real name out an article about her adult work which used her stage name as a title that would be relevant. While it's obviously true that there are some articles which give the real name and activities (outside of tha adult industry) of porn performers, the articles you cite are about people who are currently active performers/ producers in the adult industry, or relatively recently retired. They are insulated from the problems that having intrusive details about them in a WP article bring, because they are not now trying to earn a living in an entirely different line of work, like Ms. Chong. Surely it is a reasonable inference that retired performers who have moved on in their lives do not want to have their real names in a WP article. I have no objection to your real name being on your user page Tabercil! Overagainst (talk) 16:23, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Two more names for you: Penny Flame and Julie Meadows. Both are no longer in the porn business yet both articles prominently state what their real names are. Additionally, let me point something out to you: you mention "a reasonable inference". Our job is not to guess at what the subject of the article wants or does not want in the article about them. Our task to be adhere to the three pillars: verifiable, a neutral point of view and no original research. BLP does not override any of those three policies; instead it simply raises the bar a little higher as to the quality of information we use in building the article (from BLP: "We must get the article right."). In the absence of hearing from the subject, accuracy takes precedence over embarrassment. And I strongly suspect that if Ms. Chong were to write and ask to remove us to remove the name, we would reject the request as the name's out there and it's been used by a number of very reliable sources; trying to remove it would be like King Canute trying to roll the tide back. And lastly what are you talking about? My real name is not present at all on my user page... Tabercil (talk) 18:50, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Note: discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons as there's more eyes present. Tabercil (talk) 19:33, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Ex-adult industry performers yes, but neither of those two are now working in an everyday occupation, and that is surely why they don't have a problem with a Wikipedia article giving their real identity. Katja Kassin still uses her stage name on the net, but is retired and in education, her article doesn't give her real name. The main point is that Ms. Chong is in a everyday line of work where it may reasonably be inferred that she could suffer harm to her career prospects through her DoB, real name, current occupation, leisure activities and location all being in the article as an ongoing collation of details that have nothing to do with the decade old adult career that is the subject of the page 'Annabel Chong'. Why don't you use your real name on Wikipedia? Overagainst (talk) 20:03, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Because we have this category: Admins willing to make difficult blocks. I'm not willing to put myself in there. Tabercil (talk) 04:41, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Tabercil,'Talk' involves a certain amount of back and forth as people examine their attitudes and modify them under criticism. Four editor's first reaction was to disagree with me but I have come back and cited WP guidance to support my position. I think the debate is still ongoing, could you be a little patient. Someone said at Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons#Proactive presumption of privacy? thread "if it's RS'ed, it's fair game". I think that's the wrong attitude to take. RS'ed or not, the subject falls under underWP:NPF:- " people who, while notable enough for an entry, are not generally well known." As a person she is not well known. In such cases, exercise restraint and include only material relevant to their notability, focusing on high quality secondary sources. Material published by the subject may be used, but with caution". The thing that sets this case apat is that was not an actress. Someone working in a mundane occupation who had their real name, DoB, current occupation, location and hobbies mentioned in a Wikipedia article about an acting career they had under a stage name several years ago, thereby revealing they are that person, would hardly suffer any harm. The case of a former porn performer now working in an everyday occupation is different, there is a potential for harm that does not exist for a former actor. Biographies of living persons: "Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page.[1] Such material requires a high degree of sensitivity [...] Biographies of living persons ("BLP"s) must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives: the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment." It is there in black and white that " sensitivity" and "the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment." And those considerations come first. Even if the information does " adhere strictly to all applicable laws in the United States, to this policy, and to Wikipedia's three core content policies: Neutral point of view (NPOV) Verifiability (V) No original research (NOR)" we must consider the possibility of harm. Identifying someone as a former Adult industry performer clearly does have the possibility to harm them. I think leaving her real name and current occupation out of the article is in the spirit of the Biographies of living persons - Presumption in favor of privacy section on several grounds, I have cited them above. In a nutshell- she could suffer harm.  . Overagainst (talk) 16:44, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

 * Tabercil your last edit is absurd and all over the place, it switches between use of the full real name and the stage name is thoughout. The rule is that a person's first name is only used once, after that the second name is used throughout the article. It is absurd to switch back and forth between a real and stage name. Moreover your current edit wrongly implies that she changed her name to her stage name ("**** by now also calling herself Chong" & "After Chong resumed her real name of ****"). Overagainst (talk) 17:34, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
 * All I did was rolled the article back to the most recent solid instance where it mentioned her name and stuck a cite pointing to the NY Times article as a source for it - see here as proof. Tabercil (talk) 18:06, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm not going to revert myself right now, but I don't think this is a good edit for pretty much all the reasons elucidated above. Ideally I'd like to hear from someone else before reverting, though. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 01:21, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Only post-porn occupation hobbies and location details were completely removed, but I was not the only person who thought they should be. The first thing under an article title should not be something completely different that suggests the article is about a non-notable person's life, post-porn career. On that logic there would be a redirect of the real name to the porn career pseudonym which is the title of the article. My edit removed only some uses of the name; the egregious and incongruous ones, overuses that seemed to be there for their own sake. Editors thought the name should remain in the article, and I accepted that and did leave it in. I think my edit is a compromise that has some consensus, and strong support from Biographies of living persons: "Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page.[1] Such material requires a high degree of sensitivity [...] Biographies of living persons ("BLP"s) must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy. [...] When the name of a private individual has not been widely disseminated or has been intentionally concealed, such as in certain court cases or occupations, it is often preferable to omit it, especially when doing so does not result in a significant loss of context. When deciding whether to include a name, its publication in secondary sources other than news media, such as scholarly journals or the work of recognized experts, should be afforded greater weight than the brief appearance of names in news stories Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives: the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment."Overagainst (talk) 19:56, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Right - consensus on the WT:BLP page is that the real name can indeed be part of the article. So that's going in there - end of discussion. Now, how it is to be presented within it should be the same as it's done in other biography articles. It doesn't matter if the subject is living or dead, the format is the same. The Vivian Leigh article is a good template to follow for format issues since it's a featured article (from WP:FA: "They are used by editors as examples for writing other articles."). So I am reverting Overagainst's last edit on those grounds. Tabercil (talk) 22:35, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Nom de porn
John Wayne is dead, he was hardly likely to suffer harm from the mention of his real name. As has been mentioned, an actor's stage name is quite different. The pseudonym of a LIVING former porn performer is quite sufficient for most uses in a short article about their porn career, providing it is made clear that it is their former pseudonym which is being used. No context is lost in my edit and the name is there as what it is. What is the point of an infobox that does not have info not in the rest of the article?Overagainst (talk) 21:15, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * To answer your last question first, nothing. The infobox is generally used in articles as a quick summary of what is there in the article. It doesn't contain citations, except maybe for religion. As to the first, the standard is to use the birth name where we mention the "birth" part. I think the consensus was to include the real name in the article, but not emphasize it. The standard way to do that is to include it once, and the statement of where she was born is usually the right place for that. I don't quite get the point; are you saying it is less prominent in the infobox? Churn and change (talk) 21:41, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Info box is not a lede, infoboxs need to give sources. I don't think you have taken on board the difference between identifying a living person who has chosen to lead a life of 'peace and obscurity' as someone who was once a pornographic-performer, and providing the real or birth name in a standard bio article. I don't think the name should be there at all, but as a compromise if the name has to be in the article it should be there as what it is, a name other than the porn-pseudonym/article title that she was known by; the infobox has a field for 'other names'. The privacy and harm concerns are certainly great enough to obviate the usual specifying that someone was "Born **** *****". It's not like she has legally changed her name to her porn-pseudonym while pursuing a post-porn career with notability, like Traci Lords has. And it is far from certain that the subject was born in Singapore.

 * It ought not be necessary to say this, given the "This article must adhere to the policy on biographies of living persons" notice above, but the person who had an adult industry career under the pseudonym which is the title of the article is alive. The aforementioned policy mandates a "high degree of sensitivity", "regard for the subject's privacy" and that " the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment". The word 'must' is used, it's not something we can decide to ignore because a few people want to. The consensus was not on this talk page, which is the proper place for discussion of article, but at the BLP talk page where an editor decided to take it for his own reasons. It paid off as he got support, (his supporters included someone who said the subject was "fair game" and another who compared her to a convicted murderer).Overagainst (talk) 09:57, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

 * Eliminate the "Infobox". Just have the photo. An Infobox is potentially problematic. This is especially so if we are concerned with "sensitivity", which is what I think Overagainst is calling our attention to. The presentation of information in an Infobox is unnecessary. It is inessential to a well-written article. The Infobox adds prominence to information. That added prominence can be uncalled for. Bus stop (talk) 23:35, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm going to argue against that. I personally feel that all biographies should have fundamentally the same information and format, irregardless of whether the subject works as a porn star, rock star, rock splitter, meat splitter, meat packer or is just a plain ol' Packer. Most biography articles have infoboxes, especially if they're past stub stage, and from what I can tell most articles mention the subject's real name just twice: once at the start of the "Early Life" section (e.g., "Jane Joe was born Janette Jonowski...") and once in the infobox. Tabercil (talk) 22:39, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Tabercil said, "I personally feel that all biographies should have fundamentally the same information and format". But WP does not agree, else why is there is special guidance on bios of living people? Tabercil said" most articles mention the subject's real name " Can you cite cite a single case of a living person former porn performer working in a regular job under her real name, who has their real name and current occupation in the article? The closest there is, is (featured article) Jenna Jameson. But although she is a living person and a former porn star, she's running with the name and is a celeb of sorts. Tabercil said " most articles mention the subject's real name just twice: once at the start of the "Early Life" section (e.g., "Jane Joe was born Janette Jonowski...") and once in the infobox." The format 'born as' with the real name in bold at begining of article  brings up the article 1st on a google of the name. Employers ect do google names. So it matters. It's ridiculous to compare  bios of people with notabilty deriving from sports who have always been known under their real names to former porn performers. Infoboxes are a waste of time if they repeat info in the article.Overagainst (talk) 19:51, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

 * I would note that ref 1 is cited for the oh-so-vital update on how she was earning a living in 2008, under what name, and a zillion other things ( "a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z aa"). This despite it being an online article that quotes the subject's personal e-mail correspondence saying she wants to stay out of anything to do with publicity over the adult career. Did she authorize this use of her Emails? It doesn't read like it. Ref 8 is similar, not a proper newspaper, it explains how she won't talk to anyone about the adult career, and had taken steps to try and prevent people tracking her home address down through her name. Presumably because people were doing just that. Overagainst (talk) 20:30, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Post porn occupation
Given that the real name is in the article, and if that ref which quotes her personal Emails to a third party is going is considered valid, I don't think her exact occupation, as of 2008, should be in the article as well. There is clearly a potential for harm to the subject. At most it should be something like "working in information technology".Overagainst (talk) 16:24, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

language of birth name

 * Chong was born Grace Quek …

The final k of Quek suggests that her native language is more likely Cantonese than Mandarin, so why use a Mandarin-pinyin transliteration? —Tamfang (talk) 06:00, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Chinese Anabelchong (talk) 02:31, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Chinese Anabelchong (talk) 02:32, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

 * I know it's Chinese —Tamfang (talk) 00:35, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

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UK release
I have a full English, UK-released, non-promotional retail copy of this game sitting next to me as I type this. The box and manual are in English only, the box bears an ELSPA ratings code (as opposed to the German release's USK diamond symbol, for example), and the code on the spine is SCES 50612 - which, when plugged into a Google search, leads to this game's entry in listings of PS2 games. I ran a search on eBay UK for this game and found one sealed copy identical to mine, and one release from continental Europe, with the USK diamond instead of ELSPA. Do we have a source for this claim that the game was never released in the UK, because at the end of the day, the mere presence of it here beside me rather soundly debunks it! CNash (talk) 01:24, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Space Channel 5 Part 2 only release in Japan?
Is this wrong? I have a PS2 PAL copy, and it is the full version, not the promo copies that look like Demo Discs. I know it did not get an official release in Europe or America. Should we change the article to say something like "although full PAL copies of the game exist"? (Cipher Destiny 21:04, 21 August 2006 (UTC))

As a DDR (and a Space Channel 5) player, I object to saying that Space Channel 5 is "similar to" DDR. In addition to being played with the feet, which makes a huge difference, DDR is not based on mere repetition or imitation, but rather on precise on-the-spot timing of hundreds of "dance steps". Also, it is not limited to eighth-note steps. DDR is much more expansive and challenging, and is organized much differently. Doubles mode, which uses eight arrows, is further dissimilar. Perhaps a weaker word or phrase than "similar to" should be used, such as "reminiscent of". Anyone else feel the same way? MIT Trekkie 01:40, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * It's a generalization, I imagine, based on everyone lumping together music-centric titles. Although, I find that your paragraph-long reaction to a single innocuous statement is a little overblown.  --AngelusInsomnus 02:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I totally agree. I'll change 'Dance Dance Revolution' to 'Parappa the Rapper', considering that game actually follows the same pattern of 'repeating what the other person says'.  I'll also add a comment about the 'Dance' minigame in Feel the Magic XX/XY, considering the gameplay in that is near identical.  --CherryMay 08:47, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Whatever happened to the lawsuit?
 * Settled, presumably. --AngelusInsomnus 02:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

There is no mention to "Space Michael".--The dez 09:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I've never seen a "Wacko" in the game, just Space Micheal. Micheal Jackson's name even appears in the credits.

Agreed. In the PS2 version at least, MJ is called out by Ulala - "Look, they've captured Space Michael!" Furthermore, Jackson is mentioned by name in the character profiles. People should really keep thier personal opinions of the guy off the fact of the game.

Space Channel 5 Part 2 was released for PS2 in English in Europe. (This article claims that it was only released in English as part of Space Channel 5 Special Edition. This is only true for the United States.)It wasn't released in the UK though for some reason, although a version from another PAL region will work. The only playavle version in the UK itself was a demo on Official Playstation 2 Magazine UK.

Ulala (or Urara) is an actual Japanese feminine name; is it known for certain that the character Ulala's name is a reference to "ooh la la"? The entry for Ulala presently says that "Ulala's mother is from a country in East Nippon. Her name was given to express the tone of this country." 218.182.11.94 02:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Using MPEG movies as backgrounds
I'm not sure how notable it is, but I believe Space Channel 5 is unique in combining pre-rendered MPEG-2 backgrounds with the characters rendered in real-time by the console hardware, a rather innovative means of surpassing hardware limitations of the Dreamcast. --209.226.249.43 02:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Hardly innovative. Final Fantasy 7 is probably the most-famous example, and it used the same technique approximately 3 years earlier  (pre-recorded videos as background) (console-generated Cloud, Tifa, etcetera on foreground).  FF8 and FF9 also used the technique, as did several other videogames on the Playstation 1, since PS1 was only 32-bit and had limited power.  -  BTW SC5 Part 2 uses fully-3d environments (everything is made of polygons, even the backgrounds).  -  Theaveng (talk) 22:52, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Unlike FF7, SC5 is completely on rails. The moving background is rendered as a movie while the characters are rendered over it. It is high enough quality that this wasn’t instantly obvious. I don’t remember any PS game doing this. FF7’s backgrounds were rendered and painted over by hand, but they were static images. The game did not have characters moving on a rail through a 3D world, similar to rail shooters like Panzer Dragoon. Also, the PS was 32 bit, but it’s not really neutral to say it’s “only” 32 bit. The PS2, PS3, XBox, and XBox 360 also have 32 bit CPUs (although their GPUs often have different architectures). Rwatson88 (talk) 02:12, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Character articles
I am surprised that there are no articles on individual characters or enemies from this series. Does anyone object to one being created for Ulala, Jaguar or Pudding? --GarnetPrincess 00:14, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Mispronunciation of "shoot"
I don't think this is a pronunciation flub of "Shoot", the original Japanese uses "Chu!" as well ( in game and on various merchandise, e.g. the SC5v2 Soundtrack albums ). Chu is the colloquial sound for a kiss in Japanese. I think they thought it was too cute to redub in the English versions, and I seem to recall this being said in an interview with Apollo Smile at some point. Can someone dig it out? - 219.194.176.63 13:09, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Eurogamer reference (to a new addition to the series) should be removed.
It's years out of date and clearly based on false information. No further news followed, and as such linking to the article (as if it were still actual 'news') is pointless and could lead people to jump to wrong conclusions. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.1.136.69 (talk) 17:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC).

A Development Tidbit
A little something I found while searching for something else. I would have integrated it into a possible "Development" section, but as this article has none, I'll leave it here for someone else to stumble across. "In discussing the study of target demographics, Mizuguchi related the story of designing Space Channel 5, which was at first a vague assignment from Sega that asked only that Mizuguchi design a game with a broad enough appeal to draw in even casual female gamers. 'This was the first I'd heard of casual female gamers,' he said, 'so I didn't really know what to do. I personally interviewed a lot of young girls, trying to find out what they like.' Women, he says, tend to enjoy puzzle games, while male gamers 'want to be on top, they want to accomplish something and be the champion.' It's difficult, he insists, to create a game that appeals to both males and females on an equal level."

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AM9 vs United Game Artist
I think the article should refer to the development team as "AM9" in this article. Becoming "United Game Artist" involves restructuring the Division into a subsidiary company for Sega, which the article implies the article can imply the game was developed as a second party.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 02:50, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
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The soundtrack…
I honestly don’t like the soundtrack because its big band jazz sound won’t fit the futuristic space theme used in the game. For me, an EDM / trance / synth-heavy soundtrack would have fit better with the theme. The game design does look good, but the soundtrack is unfitting. 2601:8D:8700:A2D:1184:8486:4A60:807A (talk) 22:32, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

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The eastern and southern parts of its municipality are part of the Sierras de Cazorla, Segura y Las Villas Natural Park. The source of the Guadalquivir River is in its municipal district, in the Cañada de las Fuentes.

Tourism
In its municipal area there are caves with rock art, although they are rarely visited, and the remains of a Bronze Age necropolis.

There are also the ruins of the Roman villa of Bruñel, which has some preserved mosaics, the most spectacular of which is dedicated to the goddess Thetis (others are exhibited in the Provincial Museum of Jaén). The villa is next to an early Christian basilica and is open to the public.

More recent is the "Watchtower of the Infante Don Enrique", dated 1314, above the port of Tíscar. It is open to the public and offers wide views.

Tíscar Castle, with a fragmentary tower, is next to the Water Cave, a natural cavern containing an impressive waterfall (except during times of drought). According to legend, the Virgin of Tíscar, patron saint of Quesada, appeared to the king of Tíscar, Mohamed Abdón, within the cave in the fourteenth century. At the foot of the castle, on a plateau, stands the sanctuary of the Virgin of Tíscar. It retains a primitive Gothic style door of the 14th century. Its interior contains an altar in Neo-Romanesque style made in painted terracotta by artists from Orea y Baños. There are rich gates of Granada from the 17th century, as well as votive lamps from the 18th century. The paintings from different eras of great masters are kept. The verses of Antonio Machado dedicated to the Virgin of Tíscar and the Sierra de Quesada are sculpted in the sanctuary square and on a stone slab. In turn, it was a tribute to the Sevillian poet that the town of Quesada honored him in 1957.

There is a building on Avenida de Almería where all the paintings by Rafael Zabaleta and his friends are available. Paintings from all periods of the painter are preserved, in a chronological way, and were donated by the heirs of Zabaleta to the town of Quesada. Currently, and since March 28, 2015, it houses the Miguel Hernández Museum and his wife Josefina Manresa.

Economy
In agriculture, the olive grove dominates, being part of its olive cooperative (La Bética Aceitera) of the designation of origin "Sierra de Cazorla".

Cereal cultivation is now vestigial, as it has been replaced by olive groves.

Holidays
From January 19 to January 21, the festival of San Sebastián is celebrated. Residents of Quesada will wear flags, have drummers, and lights to shine on key areas of the town.

The two most important holidays, both dedicated to the Virgin of Tíscar, are held in August and in May. On the first Saturday of May, a pilgrimage occurs to bring the Virgin of Tíscar to its sanctuary. It is known as the "brought of the Virgin" day. During this trip, the Virgin of Tíscar crosses the town to the church, where she will remain until the end of August. During the trip, the quesadeños throw rose petals. On the mantle of the Virgin of Tíscar, they pin fifty or one hundred euro bills as an offering.

The summer holiday begins on August 23 and ends on August 28. On the dawn of the 29th, the Quesada locals travel to the Virgin of Tíscar to bring it back to the town. They begin at the town and make their way to the sanctuary, which is 14 kilometres away. The locals travel on foot to the Humilladero cross, located at the exit of the town. Here, the quesadeños and people of the region give an emotional farewell to the Mother of God and her Most Holy Son. From there, the trip continues in a vehicle.

In the annex of Belerda, the Feast of the Charges or Feast of the God Boy is celebrated, a tradition that goes back to the 16th century reminiscent of the festival of Moors and Christians and currently, the clothes that carry the charges are old uniforms of the nineteenth century. The party starts on December 25. The five "Charges", the first and second captain, the flag bearer, the guidance, and the small charge, accompanied by the drummer and an enthusiastic entourage, depart on the 26th towards the Sanctuary of Tíscar where the image of the Virgin. During the return, from cortijada to cortijada, the tasty products of the slaughter and the good wine receive the entourage. On the 27th, with the renewal of the "Charges" of the coming year, this party ends.

Gastronomy
The most unique dish is the talarines, a close relative of the Gazpacho manchego and the tatters, consisting of a stew of meat, vegetables, and mushrooms in which dough wafers are cooked that are broken into pieces (hence the name of tatters).

Pipirrana, crumbs, porridge, ajoharina, gachurreno, etc. are also prepared.

Some typical quesadeños sweets are: fig bread, papajotes, sweet gachillas, florets, drunkards, and bath donuts.

Quesada people

 * Rafael Zabaleta (1907-1960), painter.
 * José Luis Verdes painter, although born in Madrid, was closely related to Quesada, where he sponsored a children's painting contest. One of the local schools is named after him.
 * Rafael Hidalgo de Caviedes (Quesada 1864-Madrid 1950), a painter who was awarded several medals at the National Painting Exhibitions of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries.
 * Josefina Manresa Marhuenda, wife of Miguel Hernández, born in Quesada on January 2, 1916, and died in Elche on February 19, 1987.
 * Antonio Navarrete (Quesada, 1926-Granada, 2007), poet and writer.
 * Cesáreo Rodríguez Aguilera, Magistrate, art critic, writer and senator in Cortes.
 * Bienvenido Bayona Fernández (1915-2003), poet.
 * Marc Quesada, automation lead (1993-)

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Ron Tugnutt

Ronald Frederick Bradley Tugnutt (born October 22, 1967) is a Canadian former professional ice hockey goaltender. Tugnutt played several seasons in the National Hockey League (NHL) with the Quebec Nordiques, Edmonton Oilers, Mighty Ducks of Anaheim, Montreal Canadiens, Ottawa Senators, Pittsburgh Penguins, Columbus Blue Jackets, and Dallas Stars. While a member of the Nordiques on March 21, 1991, Tugnutt set a modern-day NHL record for most saves in a regular-season game when he stopped 70 of 73 shots in a 3–3 tie with the Boston Bruins.

After retiring as a player, Tugnutt served as the president, governor, and coach of the Central Canada Hockey League's Kemptville 73's.

Early years
Tugnutt was born in Scarborough, Ontario. As a youth, he played in the 1980 Quebec International Pee-Wee Hockey Tournament with a minor ice hockey team from Toronto.

Tugnutt played three seasons with the Peterborough Petes in the Ontario Hockey League, and won the F. W. "Dinty" Moore Trophy for the rookie with the best goals against average, followed by the Dave Pinkney Trophy for Top Team Goaltending, and was named to the OHL All Star team in 1987.

NHL beginnings
He was drafted by the Quebec Nordiques in the fourth round (81st overall) of the 1986 NHL Entry Draft. He was primarily used as a backup during his first three pro seasons, bouncing up and down between the Halifax Citadels of the American Hockey League (AHL) and the parent club in Quebec City. During 1990–91 NHL season, Tugnutt played what would be a career-high 56 games for Quebec and established himself as a quality NHL starter despite playing for what was then the worst team in the league.

On March 21, 1991, Tugnutt stopped 70 of 73 shots to earn his team a 3–3 tie against the Boston Bruins, the highest number of saves made in a regular season game in NHL history. His performance evoked such respect that after it was over, several Bruins players skated over to congratulate Tugnutt while the Boston fans gave him a standing ovation.

In the midst of an inconsistent 1991–92 NHL season, and with the emergence of Stéphane Fiset as the Nordiques' number one goaltender, Tugnutt was demoted to the Nordiques' AHL affiliate. In exchange for Martin Ručinský, he was soon traded to the Edmonton Oilers to serve as Bill Ranford's backup. Tugnutt remained in this role until he was selected by the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim in the 1993 expansion draft. In Anaheim, he split goaltending duties with Guy Hebert.

Anaheim quickly settled on Hebert as their future starter, and the Montreal Canadiens decided that André Racicot and Les Kuntar were not adequately serving as Patrick Roy's backup, so Tugnutt was acquired by the Canadiens in exchange for Stéphan Lebeau. Tugnutt's performance suffered; for Anaheim he had posted a .908 save percentage in 28 games, but for Montreal, he posted an .860 save percentage in eight games during the 1993–94 season.

During the 1994 Stanley Cup playoffs against the Bruins, Tugnutt started a game as Patrick Roy was recuperating from an appendectomy, but he did not return to the Canadiens for the 1995–96 season, and was replaced by Patrick Labrecque. These experiences caused Tugnutt to ponder retirement.

Career breakthrough
In 1995, Tugnutt signed a one-year deal with the Washington Capitals, and subsequently spent the entire 1995–96 season with their AHL affiliate, the Portland Pirates. He was productive in Portland, helping lead the Pirates to the Calder Cup Finals.

This strong performance caught the attention of the Ottawa Senators. Goaltending coach Phil Myre helped Tugnutt work on fundamentals, and gained confidence and improved his game each season. While in Ottawa, he went from fighting for the backup position with Mike Bales to splitting duties with starter Damian Rhodes the next two seasons, and became the team's undisputed starting goaltender by 1999.

On April 12, 1997, Tugnutt shutout the Buffalo Sabres in the final game of the regular season. Tugnutt's father had just died and immediately following the win Tugnutt pointed to the rafters to signify the win was for his father, in what became an iconic image of Tugnutt. This win propelled the Senators to their first playoff berth.

In 1998–99, Tugnutt had the best season of his career, and one of the best by an NHL goaltender in the modern era. He posted a league-best goals against average of 1.79, placed second in the league in save percentage at .925, had a career high in wins, and tied a career high in shutouts. This outstanding play, and an injury to Curtis Joseph, gave Tugnutt the opportunity to play in the 1999 NHL All-Star Game.

The next season, Rhodes was shipped to the expansion Atlanta Thrashers, giving Tugnutt sole possession of the starting job. However, he was unable to match his previous season and Ottawa traded him to the Pittsburgh Penguins for an experienced playoff goaltender, Tom Barrasso.

After arriving in Pittsburgh, Tugnutt took over the starting job from Jean-Sébastien Aubin and helped lead Pittsburgh deep into the playoffs. Tugnutt was in goal for the May 4, 2000, playoff game against the Philadelphia Flyers in which he made 70 saves on 72 shots. The 72nd shot was a goal scored by Keith Primeau of the Flyers at 12:01 of the fifth overtime, winning the game for Philadelphia 2–1, the longest NHL game since the 1930s.

Following his performance with Pittsburgh, Tugnutt became one of the most sought-after free agent goaltenders on the market. Both Ottawa and Pittsburgh attempted to re-sign Tugnutt but were unable to match the lucrative contract offered by the expansion Columbus Blue Jackets.

During Columbus' inaugural season, Tugnutt was considered their backbone. Tugnutt's 22 wins broke another NHL record for most wins on an expansion team, and his .917 save percentage was among the best in the league.

The team's second season was not as impressive as the first. Tugnutt battled injuries and ended up sharing time with young netminder Marc Denis. General Manager Doug MacLean gave Denis the opportunity to be the sole starter on the club, and traded Tugnutt to the Dallas Stars.

In 2002–03 Tugnutt was the backup to Marty Turco. In January 2003, Turco suffered an ankle injury that allowed Tugnutt to start almost 20 straight games, and he posted back to back shutouts during that stretch. For the season, he played 31 games and posted a 15-10-5 record including four shutouts.

The 2003–04 season was possibly Tugnutt's toughest in the NHL, as by January he only received three starts. He was sent down to the minors for the first time in almost ten years to get some playing time with the Utah Grizzlies. Just five games in, Tugnutt pulled his groin and was out until after the All Star break. Soon after, he was recalled to the Dallas Stars. After two solid starts, one of which was a shutout, Tugnutt received a break when Turco received a four-game suspension. He retired following the 2003–04 season.

Post-retirement
After the lockout, Tugnutt joined CBC as a color commentator for Hockey Night in Canada. From 2008–09 to 2009–10, Tugnutt served as the goaltending coach for the OHL's Oshawa Generals and was a goaltending consultant for the 2010 Canadian World Junior team. Tugnutt's contract with the Generals was not renewed after a major front office shakeup in May 2010. Tugnutt joined the Peterborough Petes coaching staff for the 2010–11 season. Tugnutt was a consultant with Hockey Canada until 2013 when that relationship ended. Tugnutt then moved behind the bench of his sons' team the Kemptville 73's.

Off the ice
Tugnutt is married to Lisa, and the couple have two sons, Jacob and Matthew. The family resides on Stoney Lake near Peterborough, Ontario.

Tugnutt enjoys boating and traveling. In the summer of 1998, Tugnutt was involved in a severe boating accident, and it was suspected that he might miss out on training camp. Tugnutt healed and had the best season of his career, breaking the modern-day NHL record for lowest G.A.A. and coming second in the league in save percentage.

Tugnutt previously owned the Kemptville 73's, a Junior "A" ice hockey team, where he served as head coach, president and governor. Tugnutt sold the team to an ownership group led by former teammate Jason York.

Honours and records

 * Modern-day record holder for most saves in a regular season game non-loss (stopped 70 of 73 shots in a 3–3 tie with the Boston Bruins; March 21, 1991).
 * Holds Mighty Ducks of Anaheim record for most saves in a regular season game with 46, set against the Edmonton Oilers on November 21, 1993).
 * Tied with Dominik Hašek for Ottawa Senators highest regular season save percentage.
 * Leader in save percentage for the 1999–2000 Playoffs.
 * Holds Pittsburgh Penguins record for highest save percentage in the playoffs.
 * Holds NHL record for being the only goaltender to have the first ever wins for 2 expansion teams - Columbus and Anaheim.

International play
After a disappointing 4-game sweep in the NHL playoffs, Tugnutt was more than excited to play for Team Canada in the 1999 World Hockey Championships. The semi-final game was against the Czech Republic in which Canada lost after the game went undecided in overtime, ending in a shootout. This was Tugnutt's second appearance on Team Canada, also playing for them in 1993.

Trade history

 * Traded (with forward Brad Zavisha) to the Edmonton Oilers, for LW Martin Ručinský, March 10, 1992.
 * Selected by the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim in the 1993 NHL Expansion Draft, June 24, 1993.
 * Traded to the Montreal Canadiens for forward Stéphan Lebeau, February 20, 1994.
 * Signed as a free agent by the Washington Capitals, September 25, 1995.
 * Signed as a free agent by the Ottawa Senators, August 14, 1996.
 * Traded to the Pittsburgh Penguins, along with Janne Laukkanen, for goaltender Tom Barrasso, March 14, 2000.
 * Signed as a free agent by the Columbus Blue Jackets, July 4, 2000.
 * Traded (with Columbus' 2nd round choice (János Vas) in 2002 Entry Draft) to Dallas for New Jersey's 1st round choice (previously acquired, later traded to Buffalo - Buffalo selected Dan Paille) in 2002 Entry Draft, June 18, 2002.

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Grab It for a Second

Grab It for a Second is an album by Dutch rock band Golden Earring, released in 1978.

Track listing
All songs written by Hay and Kooymans.

 * 1) "Roxanne" - 3:39
 * 2) "Leather" - 5:01
 * 3) "Tempting" - 3:43
 * 4) "U-Turn Time" - 3:25
 * 5) "Movin' Down Life" - 3:31
 * 6) "Against the Grain" - 4:35
 * 7) "Grab It for a Second" - 4:10
 * 8) "Cell-29" - 6:39

Personnel

 * Barry Hay - vocals
 * George Kooymans - guitar, Arp synthesizer guitar, vocals
 * Eelco Gelling - guitar, slide guitar
 * Rinus Gerritsen - bass guitar, Moog Bison synth bass
 * Cesar Zuiderwijk - drums

Additional personnel

 * Lani Groves - backing vocals
 * Jimmy Maelen - percussion
 * Kevin Nance - keyboards
 * John Zangrando - saxophone on "Against the Grain"

Production

 * Producer: Jimmy Iovine
 * Engineer: Shelly Yakus
 * Assistant engineers: John Kriek, Thom Panunzio
 * Mastering: Greg Calbi
 * String arrangements: Kenny Ascher
 * Design: Barry Hay, Mick Rock, Ernst Thormahlen
 * Photography: Anton Corbijn, Mick Rock
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Article quality
Why has the author of the current article been allowed to write such a flawed piece? Some months ago i visited this same page, and there was a far better article up, which was far more substantial (i.e. actually mentioned the start of Islam in Somalia) and accurate. Somaliwarrior (talk)

this article is floored, ladies and gentlemen....peace and baris.......... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.202.250.6 (talk • contribs) 17:18, 26 February 2008

This article has several inaccuracies, including the statement that Islam was modified by Somalis.The authors of this article clearly wrote it with the intention of discrediting the Somali people and further isolating them from the rest of the muslim world. To really study Islam in Somalia, one needs merely to visit the country and observe. It is obvious that the authors did not really visit the country; they obtained their information from sources who intended on making the Somali people look like a bunch of wild renegades. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.16.242 (talk • contribs) 01:47, 15 December 2004

While I don't have enough knowledge of Islam in Somalia to comment either way, I would like to. Could whoever wrote the above comment perhaps help to improve upon this article? I might even read up a bit on my own to see if I can contribute anything as well. MezzoMezzo 21:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The wording seems biased. "Because Muslims believe that their faith was revealed in its complete form to Muhammad, it has been difficult to adapt Islam to the social, economic, and political changes that began with the expansion of colonial rule in the late 19th century.". The assertion is made but without any evidence to back it up. The assertion, without evidence, suggests that Islam is a pre-modern way of living. This could be a problem with the westerncentric quality of the literature on Somali Islam? Dogmatism (talk) 08:35, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

this article is terrible
I am married to a somali sister and have some incite into somalia and would like to rewrite this whole article.

It tells you nothing about the beliefs and practices and mosques of present day somalia and is an opinion piece based on what evidence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.171.129.70 (talk) 14:17, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Indeed. One of the worst articles i found on wikipedia. How can Islam been over 1400 years in Somalia, when Islam was born around 1390 years e.g. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.104.96.51 (talk) 00:30, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 03:14, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

LoC Country Study
As the References indicate, this article incorporates text from a Library of Congress Country Study (http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/sotoc.html). However, as we've used the text wholesale, it does not use inline citations. The problem is that when article text is added, modified, or deleted, it is difficult to determine what portions lack attribution and which parts remain from the Country Study. Case in point: the "Rising Islamism" chapter of the Country Study (http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field%28DOCID+so0061%29; though this may not work permanently) reads, "In the disintegrated Somali world of early 1992, Islamism appeared to be largely confined to Bender Cassim, a coastal town in Majeerteen country. For instance, a Yugoslav doctor who was a member of a United Nations team sent to aid the wounded was gunned down by masked assailants there in November 1991. Reportedly, the assassins belonged to an underground Islamist movement whose adherents wished to purify the country of "infidel" influence." However, the text in our article (apparently derived from the LoC original) reads, "Al-Itihad appeared to be largely very active to Boosaaso, a coastal town in far Northeast of the country. For instance, a Yugoslav doctor who was a member of a United Nations team sent to aid the wounded was gunned down by masked assailants there in November 1991. Reportedly, the assassins belonged to an underground Islamist movement whose adherents wished to purify the country of outside influence." This changes "Islamism" to a specific group, "Al-Itihad," and changes the location of a specific event from "Bender Cassim" to "Boosaaso." Yet, there is no source for the modified text. I'm not sure if the rest of that section came from the LoC or not (I haven't checked). We'd have to really comb through this, I think, to distinguish public domain text from unsourced assertion. That, or roll back to the old version that is directly based on the Country Study. This illustrates one problem with the use of public domain texts: since this is a wiki, text can, and does, get changed. I recall some community-wide discussion about more properly integrating Country Study material (using in-line citations etc.) but right now I can't locate it. Thanks, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:12, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I've since found that additional text in the "Rising Islamism" section was copied, at least in part, from a conference paper (http://www.scribd.com/doc/14642683/The-Islah-Movement-Islamic-Moderation-in-Somalia). Unlike the LoC Country Study, this is not public domain, and I have removed the text.  However, my point about distinguishing LoC text from unattributed text remains. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 19:39, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

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This article is basically a copy and paste from the Maori language Wikipedia. I'd be grateful if someone who knows more about such things than this ignorant pakeha could have a look and check I haven't done anything too stupid. There are far too many red links, for one thing, but whether they all need to have articles written which ones can be subtly de-linked is beyond my knowledge of Maoritanga. I also don't know how to transfer an image in Maori Wikipedia across into English Wikipedia. Grutness|hello? 01:48, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Macrons
I've removed the macrons from the names in the list - I could foresee duplicated articles for many iwi, one with macrons and one without. I've added a note linking to the mi.wikipedia page which shows them all. Grutness|hello? 06:10, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Great to see some of my best work being copied. But I must warn about your comment "please check with the list from Maori Wikipedia (http://mi.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C4%81rangi_iwi) for macron usage": For many of my most recent additions to the original list, I have deliberately not added all required macrons, especially when they don't appear in every web version of the tribe's name. The resulting links to unmacronned new pages can then be easily (and usually are almost straight away) converted to the "correct" versions by a simple "move", leaving a redirect to deal with existing and future macronless links created by me or anyone else. Kia ora! (By the way, something's not quite right with your clever signature; maybe because of duplicating "".) - [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson 10:16, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Kia ora, Robin! Hope you don't mind me pinching your work and putting an English evrsion here! As to the sig, yes...when MW1.4 came in it showed up a mistake I'd made in forming the signature. It works fine again, but any old comments I made have a weird looking sig... I'm changing them when I notice them...
 * The macron problem's not the only one I';ve noticed. The use of spaces and Te seems pretty arbitrary at times (e.g., Ati Awa and Te Atiawa). If you can think of a better way to get around the macron situation than what I've put, I'd be very happy to see it on the page! Grutness|hello? [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 11:03, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Waikato Tainui Corrections
zZParagonZz here, there is no such iwi(tribe) as 'Waikato' only 'Tainui'. Tainui is the canoe and the main iwi to the area 'Waikato' named by Maori. From the Tainui iwi, there are sub tribes, these sub tribes are still Tainui but they refer to their 'hapu' (sub tribe) name e.g. Ngati Wairere is a hapu (sub tribe)of Tainui. Since I am not good at editing Wikipedia, it would be appreciated that you can make the alterations for me, thank you. If you want to check out some info on Maori stuff visit http://eske-style.co.nz/maoriculture.asp

Standard for spelling/macronisation of names
Used by my superiors and myself in the editing of Māori books for publication, is the list in the back of Angela Ballara's Iwi. Her list conforms to the standards of the Māori Language Commission. The Māori Wikipedia list is not necessarily correct. Kahuroa 00:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Other section
I removed this as trivia not in keeping with the rest of the article, tho I have retained the link to the Te Ara page about Maori in Australia. Why do I think its trivia? Because there are heaps of such joke iwi names and they would overwhelm this article if we allow them a foot in the door. Better to keep the article in focus as a list of actual iwi names. If there is a cogent need for an article about the sociodynamics of humorous iwi names, then better there. Kahuroa (talk) 22:34, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Duplication
I suppose the two listings on the List page for Ngai Tai & Ngāi Tai areplications Hugo999 (talk) 12:09, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

'"United Tribes" number'?
This list and Infobox Iwi use a '"United Tribes" number' based on a "Tribal Areas" figure from this archived website which was originally designed by the The Sunday Star-Times. Are these numbers just from this newspaper, or do they refer to anything else? If the numbers are only used in an old newspaper, then the numbers should be removed from this list and template. For the template, it could simply be replaced by "region" from www.tkm.govt.nz. + m t  04:10, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

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Entropia Universe

Entropia Universe is a massively multiplayer online (MMORPG) virtual universe designed by the Swedish software company MindArk, based in Gothenburg.

Entropia uses a micropayment business model, in which players may buy in-game currency (PED - Project Entropia Dollars) with real money that can be redeemed back into U.S. dollars at a fixed exchange rate of 10:1. This means that virtual items acquired within Entropia Universe have a real cash value, and a participant may, at any time, initiate a withdrawal of their accumulated PED back into U.S. dollars according to the fixed exchange rate, minus transaction fees. The Entropia Universe is a direct continuation of Project Entropia.

Entropia Universe entered the Guinness World Records Book in both 2004 and 2008 for the most expensive virtual world objects ever sold. In 2009, a virtual space station, a popular destination, sold for $$330,000$. This was then eclipsed in November 2010 when Jon Jacobs sold a club named "Club Neverdie" for $$635,000$; this property was sold in chunks, with the largest sold for $$335,000$. The game has been described as dedicated to capitalism rather than quality of gameplay, and connecting the in-game labor with real world profits, in which sense it can be seen as a spiritual precursor to the play to earn model.

Gameplay
The game can be played for free, but spending money on the in-game currency allows significant additional options like purchasing items, skills, deeds/shares, and services from other players. Nearly all of the main in-game activities require expendable resources which must be purchased. Items can also be crafted for use or for sale to other players.

Development
In 1995, development of Entropia Universe (formerly Project Entropia) was started by two different groups - one in Sweden headed by Jan Welter Timkrans and one in Switzerland, headed by Benny Iggland. Initially taking place on the fictional Planet Calypso, the 2001 version used the NetImmerse 4 game engine. On May 20, 2002, the Commercial Open Trial began, and the game was available to the public. With Version Update 4.2 on 28 January 2003, the game was considered "Gold".

Significant events and virtual property sales

 * December 14, 2004 – Game creators MindArk announced the conclusion of the first "Treasure Island Sale", a virtual island put up for auction. The winning bidder paid 265,000 PED (US$26500) for the island, the highest price ever paid for a virtual item.
 * October 24, 2005 – A virtual "asteroid space resort" was bought by Jon "Neverdie" Jacobs for a sum of 1,000,000 PED (US$100000), surpassing the sale of Treasure Island.
 * May 2, 2006 – MindArk announced the introduction of an ATM card enabling players to withdraw the real-world currency equivalent of their PED funds directly from any Versatel ATM. It was stated that $165 million had "passed through the game" in 2005 and that this figure was expected to double in 2006.
 * October 17, 2006 – MindArk announced that Entropia Universe had reached 500,000 registered users.
 * May 8, 2007 – MindArk announced the results of a "virtual banking license auction". These two-year exclusive licenses aimed to integrate real world banking systems into Entropia Universe, working similarly to real-world banks or pawn shops. Initially, they would be provided with secure systems enabling them to lend money and collect interest, design and name their own virtual bank building(s), and make their own personnel available through avatars. Each winner would be required to add a further US$100000 as working capital. After months of bidding, the six licenses sold for a total of US$404000.

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John Huarte

John Gregory Huarte (born May 20, 1944) is an American former football quarterback who played with several teams in the American Football League (AFL), the National Football League (NFL), and in the World Football League (WFL) between 1965 and 1975. He played college football for the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, where he won the 1964 Heisman Trophy. He was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 2005.

Early years and college career
Huarte was born and raised in Orange County, California; his father Joseph was a former minor league baseball player of Basque descent. The family ran an orange and avocado ranch and he graduated from Mater Dei High School in Santa Ana in 1961.

Huarte played college football for the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. During his sophomore and junior seasons, he averaged only a few minutes per game due to injuries and the Irish went 5–5 and 2–7, respectively. As a senior in 1964 under new Irish head coach Ara Parseghian however, he became the starting quarterback as the Irish won all but one game during the 1964 season, in which he was selected as an All-American and won the Heisman Trophy. By the end of the season, Huarte threw for 2,062 yards with only 205 passes, an average of over ten yards per pass attempt, many to receiver Jack Snow.

Huarte was a member of the College All-Star team in the annual pre-season game against the defending NFL champions at Chicago's Soldier Field. The 1965 game was in early August against the Cleveland Browns and Huarte was named the game's most valuable player.

Professional career
Huarte was drafted in 1965 by both pro football leagues: he was the twelfth overall selection of the AFL draft and the 76th pick of the NFL draft. He signed with the AFL's New York Jets over the NFL Philadelphia Eagles, but was beaten out for the starting position by fellow-rookie Joe Namath, the first pick of the AFL draft, who had finished eleventh in the Heisman voting as a senior at Alabama. The AFL Jets thus signed both the Heisman Trophy winner and the Alabama star away from the NFL. Huarte was third on the depth chart behind co-starters Namath and Mike Taliaferro and was on the taxi squad. Following the 1965 season, Huarte was traded to the Boston Patriots for Jim Colclough and the draft rights to Wichita State linebacker/center Jim Waskiewicz.

Subsequently, Huarte did see action as a back-up quarterback for several other professional teams from 1966 to 1972. Out of the NFL in 1973, he played his final two seasons of professional football as the starting quarterback of the Memphis Southmen of the World Football League, which folded before the completion of the 1975 season.

After football
Huarte is the founder and Owner of Arizona Tile. In 2005, he was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame.

Huarte is married to Eileen Devine from Woodside, New York. They have 5 children and 14 grandchildren and live in Pacific Palisades, Ca. In 1977, he started a tile/granite store in San Diego. It has now grown to 30 locations, with over 1000 employees throughout the United States. It is still family owned and operated by John and Eileen Huarte and their children.

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St. James (provincial electoral district)

St. James is a provincial electoral division in the Canadian province of Manitoba.

Historical riding
The original St. James riding was established at the province's creation in 1870, and lasted until the election of 1879. It was located in what was then a separate community on Winnipeg's periphery.

Modern riding
The modern St. James riding was created by redistribution in 1957 out of part of Assiniboia, and has formally existed since the provincial election of 1958. The riding is located in the western section of Winnipeg.

St. James is bordered on the east by Wellington, Minto and Wolseley, to the south by Tuxedo, to the north by Wellington and Lakeside, and to the west by Assiniboia and Kirkfield Park.

The riding's population in 1996 was 20,417. In 1999, the average family income was $47,842, and the unemployment rate was 6.20%. Almost 19% of St. James's population is over 65 years of age, and almost 38% of dwelling units are rented.

The service sector accounts for 15% of St. James's industry, following by government services (14%) and manufacturing (13%).

St. James was a marginal Progressive Conservative/NDP riding for most of its history to 1988. It was won in that year by Liberal Paul Edwards, who was elected leader of his party in 1993. The NDP recaptured the seat in 1995.

Recent boundary changes
The St. James riding underwent a dramatic redistribution in 1999. Previously, the space the riding occupied roughly the same space as the riding of Minto, which was newly created that year and, as of 2019, exists as Notre Dame. In fact, the original plan of the Manitoba Electoral Boundaries Commission in 1999 was to rename St. James as Minto, and create a new riding called King Edward to its immediate west (primarily from the old riding of Sturgeon Creek). Instead, the boundaries legislation passed by the Manitoba legislature in 1999 determined that the new riding would be called St. James.

Although the current riding has some territory in common with its predecessor of the same name, it is probably more accurately regarded as the successor riding to Sturgeon Creek. The NDP captured this seat from the Tories in 1999, and retained it in 2003.


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POV edits
I removed "... excellent vegetarian..." etc as that is subjective - too POV. Also, I'm not sure we should list the range of cuisines because it is the same as most comparable events and is not really encyclopedic information. Just my view. 01:53, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Name…
Should we move this to Fairport's Cropredy Convention? The name changed when the new management took over (IIRC) and is now in use on the official website. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 08:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC) I think we should aswell. --Eddie (talk/contribs) 12:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

2007 schedule - Wishbone Ash and the Strawbs have swapped around
Wishbone Ash can't make the "hooligan spot" on Saturday and have swapped with the Strawbs - see the news page (2007-04-28) of Fairport's site for details. 81.174.241.81 14:32, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Length of the schedules after 2007
I think that there is way too many schedules on this page, and possibly have it own pages rather than having a long list on the main page. --Eddie (talk/contribs) 18:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

History
I have added a boader history to the article. A lot more could be said, but in the context of wikipedia it might be odd to have this article giving immense details of every year.--Sabrebd (talk) 15:31, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

More on schedules
The majority of appearances lists were moved to Fairport's_Cropredy_Convention_Appearances over a year ago. So, to keep the list to a reasonable length in this article, I've moved 2006 to the other page as well. It's something we could doevryy year to leave just three here at any one time. Andy F (talk) 18:48, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

 * I notice an IP editor has added the 2010 line-up. In past years we have waited til the event has actually taken place before displaying the list. After all, this is an encyclopedia not a crystal ball or an advertising medium for the festival. I have remarked-out the listing so that it can be reinstated in August. Andy F (talk) 19:46, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Its a good policy. We can add it in when the performances have actually occured.--''' SabreBD  (talk ) 20:18, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

OK, guys, appearances 2007 are now moved to Fairport's_Cropredy_Convention_Appearances. Appearances for 2010 are in this article (slightly corrected today). Andy F (talk) 08:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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User talk:Lord Pistachio/Archive 2

40 Glocc
I copied it from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JpGrB/Sandbox_2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikskill (talk • contribs) 19:32, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Bangkok Southerners
Hi there - apologies for the blank space in Bangkok southerners. I'm a real noob to wikipedia and it was my first page and didn't realise it blanked out. Hope I haven't offended or confused anyone. I have developed another page, so best to keep Bangkok southerners deleted. Cheers Sb27 Sb27 (talk) 03:06, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Red Herring Coffeehouse
This is a non-profit part of a religious foundation and is not a business/corporation. Many well known people have gone through this institution and many significant socil/politcal activities have been organized in this place. I plan to add many more details about this institution in the next few days. Do not delete!

Indianapolis
Hey there, I was wondering why you decided to delete all the information about the Indianapolis government from the Indianapolis page. Thought I'd get your take on it before considering reverting it. --   JT   Holla! 14:09, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, man, that's on me. I totally went into a mind fart when I looked at the Diff.  Great work, btw.  <__<  --    JT   Holla! 15:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, it's not at all clear that "Unigov legislation was never intended to affect any city other than Indianapolis." The population threshold could have been set much higher back in 1970, and/or indexed for time, but wasn't. It was set at 250,000; perhaps to garner support from Ft Wayne representatives, which then had a population of 174,000. Indeed, it's hardly a stretch to say that Unigov was one motivation for former Ft Wayne mayor Paul Helmke's large scale annexations while in office. If indeed Unigov was only intended to apply to Indy (a thesis I disagree with), it's not the only legislation to have "unintended consequences". Duke Ganote (talk) 11:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

The Luke
Thanks! They're not my pics, obviously, but I found that link and had to make sure everyone else saw them! --   JT   Holla! 00:01, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Good find on the FieldTurf source. I was looking for one, but wasn't able to find one!  --    JT   Holla! 20:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppet allegation
Hello! You should really reevaluate your interest in this. That "sockpuppet" is my partner in the Police Department of which I work. He is also an editor (however not as active as I). I asked his opinion and he wrote what he felt on the subject. I would suggest that you check out WP:CALM and try not to take things personally and stop looking for things that aren't there. After all, this is just Wikipedia. I assume that you did some sleuthing on the user that "supported" my cause. I helped him get his account going a few weeks back, so that is why I am on his history. Believe me, if I were to create a sock puppet...you wouldn't know about it. If you have any questions regarding my "integrity" please feel free to contact me at any time. I would also recommend that you assume good faith in the future. Before putting allegations on someone, perhaps you could bring your thoughts to their attention first before making such malicious allegations (that is a fairly bad thing to accuse someone of without getting one's facts together first). That's water under the bridge, and I realise that you are still somewhat young and perhaps a little overzealous. But, back to the issue at hand; I wouldn't be opposed to a merger if you are so adamant on doing something, because the BSUPD is still on the List of law enforcement agencies in Maryland. And to keep the consistancy (within the list) perhaps we could simply put a redirect to the main university article. I think this is a fair balance for the both of us, don't you? It would be very wiki of you to remove the allegations from my page now that I have explained who Orthodoxpharoah is. Thanks! Sallicio (talk) 11:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)Sallicio

 * Yes I know what a "meatpuppet" is as well, and no he wasn't acting under my "direction" either. He asked what I was typing, I explained it to him, he said he wanted to comment, so he did. Why is that so hard to believe? In retrospect, I can see how it would look like obvious sockpuppetry (and that could be your first clue though, doesn't it seem a little too obvious?). Maybe I would think the same thing you are, however I know for a fact that I would do a bit more investigating before making allegations that could get some banned on circumstancial evidence. Perhaps you should remain objective from your own agenda. You realize what you are doing, right? If you push this thing through it'll block everything that I've done up to this point, because of your own personal vendetta and circumstantial evidence that isn't true. When investigating a "crime" the number one rule is: stay objective, of which you are failing miserably. If you're going to look at circumstancial evidence, look at all of it (i.e., does the suspected person have an established history on the site? What contributions has the suspect given? Does the suspect have a history of suspected sockpuppetry? Does the suspect have a history of starting or participating in heated debates? Does the suspect fit the "profile" of a user that would have sockpuppets? Does the alleged sockpuppet fit the profile as such?) Do some more sleuthing before you establish your own opinion and lynch a user. I challenge you to find a "yes" to any of those questions. I do understand, however, that sometimes it is hard keep a cool head when situations get to this point and it's "fish or cut bait" for our own cause. All I ask is that you remain objective and consider all options. Because this is annoying for me as well. Thanks. Sallicio (talk) 19:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)Sallicio
 * I agree with you. I think that you are correct. The BSUPD article would probably be more effective within the parent article (and not deleted totally). Orthodoxpharoah should not have commented on the AfD. However, I still feel that it was in poor taste to throw me into litigation to challenge my integrity and my being an alleged puppetmaster without inquiring from the source, first. I am aware that I am relatively new to the Wikicommunity, but I make it a point to assume good faith (unless it is an obvious attack, e.g., so-and-so is an a-hole), stay impartial, and look at the facts relative to the law (i.e., wikiguidleines) as they appear, without blinders. Those qualities are necessary for me to function effectively on my real job, so perhaps it comes more obviously to me than others (which I fault myself for not being more aware of). I hope this makes sense to you and hopefully this experience will enable both of us to be more productive members of this community. I do not hold grudges and (I like to think) am easy to get along with, so if you need any assistance on anything or have questions related to (real-life) law enforcement, don't hesitate to ask! Sallicio (talk) 19:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)Sallicio

CCC
Thanks. HoosierState was the one going with him to begin with, and I stumbled on it. I don't know anything about the guy, but I totally agree that he should find better things to do with his time (time that you and I pay for, btw) than run a muck on Wikipedia. --   JT   Holla! 22:11, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

History of Dover
Hi. Grateful if you would look at my comments on your speedy deletion. I was a bit dubious about the section I refer to in it when I did the transfer but thought I would check it out along with the all the other non-referenced material: it unbalanced the rest of a pretty poor article anyway! Can I suggest the alternative is to block it all out - as I say there was no idea of doing that when it was part of the main Dover article. Regards Peter Shearan (talk) 07:17, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks for pointing that out! I was naturally completely unaware of what had happened. I was in any case in the process of rewriting most of it, since as I remarked IMO it was poorly composed, and there are some inaccuracies and/or sweeping statements (a visit to Richborough (Rutupiae) tells us that it was the start of Watling Street, and not Dover, for example). I shall now go ahead and do so - presumably I can use what is now the blank article to do so - or should I change its title - History of the town of Dover perhaps? Regards Peter Shearan (talk) 09:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I've restored the History of Dover page, because I can't see that there is a copyvio - see my reasons on its talk page. Happy to discuss.  —S MALL  JIM   10:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Ewerf
Who are you to say what an Ewerf can or cannot be —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noodlebot (talk • contribs) 19:17, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thank you very much for the award. You've done a great job yourself! HoosierStateTalk 20:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello, how do i send messages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by EMA270993 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Landon IP
An article that you have been involved in editing, Landon IP, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Landon IP. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Edcolins (talk) 21:15, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Wood carving knife
Just a friendly note on Wood carving knife. I declined your speedy because there's plenty of context in the article. -- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  01:10, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Life, Love and Family
An article that you have been involved in editing, Life, Love and Family, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Life, Love and Family. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. andy (talk) 10:35, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Dustin Harding
It appears you judged this AFD entirely based on a single role he had at the start of his career. Could you please check and possibly reconsider based on his latest roles? - Mgm|(talk) 10:45, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Iceland Crisis Response Unit.
Dear Lord Pistachio,

I was a bit disappointed to look up the ICRU page that I had corrected in February. As you see I´m not a fervent wikipedia contributor like you and may not have modified it in a correct way but labeling it as vandalism was a disappointment for me.

I have studied the background of the ICRU as a part of my studies at the University of Iceland and some of the information that I corrected was not only currently wrong but has also never been true. A quick example is the size of the unit, being at around 20 at the moment (haven´t gotten the exact latest figures at the moment but the number is decreasing due to budget cuts) and was at the time of the edit around 25. At its heights in 2004-2005 it held over 32 positions around the world in NATO, UNIFEM and other organizations with some 75-80 people working in a given year (some on rotation basis, other only for the project varying for example from 3 months to a year) not close to the 100 person paramilitary unit that suggest a standing force of a 100 persons.

Similarly it would be quite a stretch to call the unit a "paramilitary unit" when even during the times of the PRT work of the ICRU or when it was a lead nation in running Kabul international airport it had at most 20 employees under arms at any given time, all hired specifically for the project period, some lent from the police, coast guard and others but not on a standing basis like I would expect a paramilitary unit to be set up.

What surprised me the most was that you removed the sources I had added, the yearly reports of the ICRU, information straight from the horses mouth as one would say. (unfortunately information in Icelandic is more widely available than in English)

I wanted to contact you first before I tried to modify the page again and ask you for your feedback on how I can change the page in the most effective way to prevent the changes from being labeled vandalism again,

best, change131 Change131 (talk) 20:34, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks alot for your quick reply as well as the explanation on vandalism, as I said in the post above I´m new to editing wikipedia so it is good to learn how things work around here. ;-) I will restore the changes to the page and make sure that how the information relates to the sources is better displayed.

Thanks again and keep up the good work, best, Change131 (talk) 14:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

40 Glocc
Thanks for saying it's a decent article. Sadly, that's all it is, decent. It hasn't been updated in a while, and I've been meaning to re-tackle it. The original is located here. --HELLØ   ŦHERE 21:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

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Heinkel He 343

The Heinkel He 343 was a quadjet bomber project designed by the German aircraft manufacturer Ernst Heinkel Flugzeugwerke during the final years of the Second World War. It was intended to perform aerial reconnaissance and fighter-bomber operations in addition to its use as a fast bomber.

The project commenced work in January 1944 as a new jet-powered bomber that emphasised flexibility in terms of mission role and engine fitout. Munitions were to be carried both externally and internally. Four variants of the He 343 were envisioned to perform bombing, reconnaissance, and direct fire support roles. The Government Air Ministry (Reichsluftfahrtministerium) quickly issued an initial order for 20 aircraft, which Heinkel worked on fulfilling. Despite lobbying efforts by the company's founder, Ernst Heinkel, to maintain the project, during late 1944, work was halted on the project and the order cancelled on account of Germany's deteriorating military situation necessitating the diversion of limited resources towards other programmes closer to production. Both design information and many of the components were recovered from Heinkel by the Soviet Union near the end of the conflict. The He 343 was allegedly studied in great detail by the Soviets and played a crucial role in the development of the Ilyushin Il-22, the first Soviet jet-bomber.

Design and development
Work on what would become the He 343 commenced during January 1944. That same month, the German aircraft manufacturers Heinkel and Junkers were both personally approached by Siegfried Knemeyer, the Head of Technical Development at the Government Air Ministry (Reichsluftfahrtministerium), with a request to develop a four-engined jet-powered bomber as a "crash" programme with a short development window of roughly one year. By that point, Heinkel had already played a key role in pioneering jet propulsion during the 1930s, and was keen to develop combat-ready jet-powered aircraft that would be procured in large numbers to meet the wartime needs of the Luftwaffe.

Accepting this request, Heinkel quickly designed a four-engined bomber with unswept wings that were attached at the center of the fuselage. It was to be operated by a crew of two, who were seated within a pressurised glazed cockpit at the front of the aircraft; an optional third crew member may have also been carried for some mission roles. The engines, which were individually mounted beneath the wings, could alternatively be Junkers Jumo 004, BMW 003, or Heinkel HeS 011 powerplants. Armaments and/or equipment were to be carried both internally and externally; while up to 2,000 kg of bombs could be accommodated within the bomb bay, the bomb racks underneath the wings would have provided additional mounting points. Defensive armaments include a pair of fixed rear-facing MG 151 20mm cannons, which were installed within the fuselage.

Operationally, it was to be faster than previous peers as to better evade interception, and flexible enough to perform alternative roles such as aerial reconnaissance and fighter-bomber duties; pursuing compatibility with multiple turbojet engines also reduced some of the potential manufacturing difficulties. To shorten its development, considerable attention was paid to the existing Arado Ar 234 jet bomber; to this end, design information was supplied by Arado and the Deutsche Forschungsanstalt für Segelflug (DFS) to Heinkel.

From at early stage, four distinct models of the aircraft were planned. The He 343 A-1 was a dedicated bomber variant. Amongst the munitions it was intended to carry was the Fritz X guided Anti-ship glide bomb, which would have been radio controlled from the aircraft by a third crew member. The He 343 A-1 was very similar to the He 343 A-2, the variant intended for reconnaissance missions. For extended endurance, an additional 2,400 kg of fuel could be carried in an additional tank in the bomb bay instead of munitions; a pair of Rb 75/30 cameras would have been used for photo reconnaissance. The He 343 A-3 was envisioned for battlefield support, being armed with a pair of MG 151 20mm cannons in addition to four forward-firing MK 103 30mm cannons mounted with its bomb bay. The He 343 B-1 also performed the same role as the He 343 A-3, differing in terms of the armament used, having an upgraded rear turret arrangement that necessitated the redesign of the tail unit.

The Air Ministry reviewed Heinkel's proposal, as well as a competing design produced by Junkers. While the Air Ministry did place an initial order for 20 aircraft, which included the prototype and pre-production units. The company's founder, Ernst Heinkel, personally lobbied in favour of the project, pointing to its simplicity, lower material cost, and more rapid development schedule. It was claimed that as many as 200 He 343s could be supplied by July 1945. The DFS designated the project P.1068. However, during late 1944, Heinkel was ordered to stop all work on the programme and the order was cancelled. This outcome came as a consequence of Germany's deteriorating position in the conflict and to refocus limited resources onto efforts such as the Emergency Fighter Program. The aviation author Daniel Uziel claimed that German authorities had probably wanted Heinkel to concentrate on producing the Heinkel He 162 fighter instead.

While no aircraft were ever completed, much of the design work had been completed and a substantial amount of components for the project had already been produced. The incomplete airframes and components were initially stored by Heinkel in the hope that the project would be resumed. As the conflict approached its conclusion in 1945, the Allied powers sought to obtain whatever technical information that could be recovered from Nazi Germany, particularly on its advanced military projects and aerospace initiatives. The Soviet Union succeeded in acquiring much of the He 343's design and components from Heinkel's facility in Schwechat, outside Vienna. Thereafter, it is alleged that the project served as the basis for the development of the Ilyushin Il-22, albeit with some of the parameters being altered, such as the size and crew numbers. A single prototype was built and flown. The results of these tests were used in development of the Ilyushin Il-28.

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Talk:Theories of Jewish Identity

I don't see a real thesis to this article. Perhaps it would be better to create an article on Yuri Slezkine, and then move the materials to that page and to MacDonald's page. -Willmcw 01:56, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Sounds fine. Someone originally put this on the "Jew" page, I then moved it to the "Who is a Jew" page, and them finally to here.  I would be happy to let this article dissolve into its component parts. --Goodoldpolonius2 04:30, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Swell, now I'm going to learn more about Slezkine than ever wanted to know! (I'll put some kind of "see also" note on some logical referral page pointing to Slezkine. The MacDonald article is already linked.) -Willmcw 04:46, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I created a Yuri Slezkine article. I think he's barely notable. I'm redirecting this one, but it really oughta just be deleted. -Willmcw 06:07, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Good job. I never liked this article, but I didn't want to cut the content if people found it valuable.  I'd vote to delete.

title: Talk:Theories of Jewish Identity