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Does Evil Exist
Fictitious urban legend. See --Gary D 00:34, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, no matter if it's fictitious or verifiable, it's a minor anecdote and not really encyclopedic material -- Ferkelparade π 00:49, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, wikipedia is not snopes. This isn't important enough an urban legends to warrant an article. Shane King 01:21, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. See also . Not a noteworthy Internet phenomenon or a notable urban legend. Far less widespread than the trip to Disneyworld you could get by forwarding email and testing Microsoft's email-tracking software. Far less widespread than the many, many university libraries that are sinking into the ground because the architect failed to allow for the weight of the books. I can't prove it and Snopes didn't finger it as a copyvio, but I bet it is... it sounds for all the world like something out of the Readers' Digest or Guideposts... [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 01:22, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete as not encyclopedic in any way, whether false or true. The fact that it's clearly false makes it that much more deserving of a solid yank. DreamGuy 01:48, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to Wikisource unless it's a copyvio. Is still valid content, although not of the 'pedia. [[User:GeorgeStepanek|GeorgeStepanek\talk ]] 01:50, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: All hail the Internet, misinformer of the world! This basic answer to theodicy is pretty darned old, going back to the 17th c.  Another explanation is that deviation belongs to man; that which is obedient to God is good, the potential is not the existence, for the existence creates itself.  Anyway, it wasn't Einstein, and, if it were Einstein, it would only be a demonstration that he had been going to a church school and learned his lessons.  Geogre 02:02, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. See http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp, as User:Gary_D said. --jpgordon{gab} 02:05, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - Cdc 03:02, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Boy, did Einstein ever teach those atheists a thing or two! They won't be showing their faces around God's America any time soon! Delete as another crap article that doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. -R. fiend 04:00, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I tried replacing Einstein's name in the punchline with that of Aleister Crowley, feeling strongly that the story is just as true and just as plausible that way. Actually, since Einstein's views were complex—he described himself as "a disciple of Spinoza"—and politically unsound, the story might be even more plausible if told with Einstein's name as that of the professor, and, oh, I don't know, let's say Donald Knuth as the wise student. It's a little tricky because the student's name when revealed has to trump the professor's name with regard to intelligence. No, Einstein won't do in the professor's role... too smart... hard to think of a well-known name that would be recognized as "really smart but less smart than Donald Knuth." And of course Donald Knuth isn't very well known outside of nerdish circles... I wonder what Marilyn vos Savant's religious views are? [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 13:37, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Suggest that the author (an anon) have a look at Wikinfo whose policies may be broad enough to want this. I don't think Wikisource would. Andrewa 06:33, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't think ULs belong here. [[User:Mo0|Mo0 [ talk ] ]] 06:35, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. --MPerel 09:38, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
 * I dissent on the grounds that I have received this in an e-mail before, much to my annoyance, so it's probably at least halfway notable. Keep. Widespread urban legends are encyclopedic, and can be quite fascinating, actually. Everyking 11:48, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: What would you think of a merge and redirect to urban legend, briefly summarising the content rather than quoting the entire text? No change of vote. Andrewa 20:31, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * A good plan. I have changed my vote to delete. [[User:GeorgeStepanek|GeorgeStepanek\talk ]] 21:08, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Not a bad idea, but I'd prefer a list page for it instead, because examples could go on forever. OK, I'll drop my keep vote. Everyking 21:36, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep - Nothing wrong with an urban legend on wikipedia. -- Crevaner 21:41, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Gamaliel 21:45, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, its interesting and well-written. -- Old Right 23:33, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Note to sysop: compare user pages of Old Right and Crevaner. There is a pattern of these usernames casting votes in VfD discussions, invariably the same way, within a few hours of each other. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 03:03, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't this be redirected, or at least disambiguated, to something like The problem of evil or some other philosophic concept? [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 23:36, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unencyclopedic trivia. Indrian 23:49, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Urban legends are not inherently unencyclopedic, but this doesn't deserve to be examined in full detail, and without detail, what does it amount to but "A big important professor said that evil existed and this smart young guy ran circles around him logically and some versions say the smart young guy was Einstein"? -- Antaeus Feldspar 23:56, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. BTW, one of the many aspects of the book When Bad Things Happen to Good People that I appreciated when I read it was how effectively Rabbi Kushner makes mincemeat out of arguments like this. Kushner smarter than Einstein? Probably not, but smarter than this pseudo-Einstein, certainly. --Christofurio 04:59, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - not encyclopedic material // Liftarn 19:39, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - there are articles on Theodicy and the the problem of evil, already. --BM 03:32, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Antandrus 03:52, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not Snopes.com. --FOo 04:07, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep - Well written. If it in fact can be put under FDL. drange_net
 * Delete- I concur with the users that point out that this is Snopes material, not Wikipedia material.  At the very most, it is only worth a brief reference in the Urban legend article.  --Edeans 00:57, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)


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Talk:Ken Jennings/Archive

Final results should be posted today
Reason: It doesn't f'ing matter. 20 hours or now, it makes no difference. Wikipedia's policy is to update results as soon as they're known, so this is it. We're now revising the article accordingly.
 * They are not *known* until the show has *aired on broadcast*. Please let us not get into canonicity arguments, ok? There was no discussion, and I *will* keep reverting it and go chase an admin down if I have to. Baylink 02:41, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * I will not buy any edit on the final results until about noon or so eastern time, when I can actually feasibly believe the episode would air. Mike H 02:42, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
 * I totally agree. Please find an admin if required. --OntarioQuizzer 06:23, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * On the other hand, it is perfectly appropriate to post said rumors in the "rumors" section UNTIL the actual airing which I have done so.

 * OntarioQuizzer, I am an admin. I see the results bit has been taken down from the main body and placed in rumors, which I totally agree with. Mike H 12:37, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

Well, I'm bummed that someone took down the spoiler warning before the final episode aired in Pacific time... Aion 05:08, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Please stop making unhelpful and unnecessary changes

 * Editing of the $566,400 maximum winnings figure. It's CONFIRMED. No need to edit something already verified by Jeopardy officials.

Miscellaneous
What's with this table? Why is it appearing below the External Links instead of above it? Why didn't my footnote appear when I placed it between the bottom of the table and the external links? How can I get the footnote to appear below the table? Rick'''K 05:00, Jul 10, 2004 (UTC) The order is fixed, though the formatting could be cleaner. Salasks I like the new setup of the table, it looks a lot better than the old one did. I don't particularly like it. I think the border could stand to be thinner, but I'm fine with leaving it how it is. Aerion 00:28, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC) Any reason the dates in the table aren't wiki-linked? - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 13:27, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC) The article gives two different figures for the ratings jump. Can someone confirm, preferable w/ citation? [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 14:52, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC) How were the Daily Doubles factored into the theoretical maximum? Does it assume they were the last things picked on the board or does it discount them entirely? Salasks 15:28, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I love this guy. Think of the contributions he could make to wikipedia! ; ) We should try to track down his e-mail—I'm sure an intellectual renaissance man like him would love this site if he doesn't already. Postdlf 13:18, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * It's 28%; it says so in the NYTimes article listed on the bottom of the page. Salasks 15:09, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * My bad. It was the blind guy who caused a 15% jump in ratings. Sorry bout that. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:14, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)
 * Mine too, for not checking the linked article. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 15:15, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * User:Nunh-huh is the one who posted that, but I'd assume that the theoretical maximum means that the Daily Doubles were concealed underneath 200 and 400 squares, were the last squares selected, and were true Daily Doubles. Also, the user would have to wager everything in Final Jeopardy. The Jeopardy! article lists the maximum as $566,400. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:41, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)

 * Using that logic I did:

1000*6=6000 	800*6 =4800 	600*6 =3600 	400*6 =2400 	200*4 =800 	17600*2*2 =70400 	2000*6=12000 	1600*6=9600 	1200*6=7200 	800*6 =4800 	400*4 =1600 	105600*2*2 = 422400 	Final Jeopardy = 844800 Salasks 16:34, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC) My bad, there's only one Daily Double in the first round. So then I agree with the 566,400 figure. I'm changing Salasks 16:45, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC) In order for Final Jeopardy to be reached, one other player must have money. Assume the other player answered the lowest possible value question ($200). The theoretical maximum is actually $563,200. No. Final Jeopardy still takes place even if only one player has money. --OntarioQuizzer 23:28, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * This discussion should really be conducted on Talk:Jeopardy!, so I've moved this anonymous comment to that page.

Clearly, the tinfoil-hat brigade is out in force, now. :-) Baylink 04:08, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Year of birth?
Two edits: one says 1973 the other says 1974. Do either of you have a source for this information? Pleas post. Jewbacca 03:00, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)
 * My guess is that they're basing it off of his age (30), which is widely published in newspaper articles and the like. If he's 30, he could've been born in 1973 or 1974 - it's currently impossible to tell, so we should probably take that out. R ADICAL B ENDER ★  04:04, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I noticed it changed to 1974. Is there any verification of this to make sure this is correct? Quazywabbit 05:23, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * My GF said she heard May 23, '74 somewhere, but I didn't see it on Google when I searched quickly - can anyone verify? cheater 15:33, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * OK, I verified myself thanks to a post on  - according to  Ken's birthday IS May 23, 1974. cheater 13:50, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Ken Jennings...Gates? Larson?
A computer programmer, racking up lots of money, in what could (Figuratively) be described as a reign of terror? Seems to be a little bit too much Bill Gates influence there. If not Bill Gates, it definitely reminds me of Michael Larson back when he was on Press Your Luck.

Ratings increase
What's the source for the new stat of a 41% audience increase? The NY Times said 28% just a couple days ago (see link to story in article). Postdlf 19:37, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * CNN lists a bunch of ratings numbers Salasks

I got the 62% from tvgameshows.net on 28July04 cheater 7:43, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Too many external links
Is that really Ken Jennings's website (the movie one)? Yes, that is really Ken Jennings's website. --65.95.11.127 23:26, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Is anyone watching Jennings on Jeoprady!?
Please I need to know if any Wikipedia member have been watching Jeporady! lately. Just poll here. WikiPediaAid
 * Yep, I've been Tivoing it every day. It's pretty quick cause you can skip through the boring bios of the inevitiably defeated competitors, and through all of the trebek schlock. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:10, Jul 17, 2004 (UTC)

 * I watch it on regular TV. I enjoy learning about the lives of the "competitors" before Ken and his dry wit rip their guts out. Salasks 16:39, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Regular TV here. Enjoying it every day. --OntarioQuizzer 23:29, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

5-day record (non-consecutive) - relevant?
Why is this record of any significance? I can understand that the consecutive 5-day is significant as that helps to compare to contestants from previous years. "Highest 5-game total on Jeopardy!, best 5 games: US $254,000 (games 7, 10, 28, 29, and 33)" Jewbacca 20:03, Jul 17, 2004 (UTC)
 * With the long-standing nature of the five-time undefeated champion rule, "five" has become something of a magic number in Jeopardy!. I was interested in seeing how his best 5 games stacked up in comparison, and I thought others would be as well. Jwolfe 05:01, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Why is the comparison being made between old and new dollar values? The Daily Doubles and Final Jeopardy make the comparison impossible as I don't think there's any way a player would wager twice as much under the new system than they would the old. --OntarioQuizzer 23:33, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Contestants that are leading going into Final Jeopardy! still usually wager enough to win by $1, even though the amounts are higher. Perhaps people were more conservative at first, but I suspect that difference has largely disappeared by now. If you adjust for inflation, the amount the contestants are winning is not really any higher than it was back when the question values were lower. And with shows like Millionaire, the amounts may seem much lower.

 * I still disagree here. Even though that is the case, people will wager to win by $1, in the record-breaking scenarios, you have players with huge leads going into Final Jeopardy. Also, if you look at Frank Spangenberg's 5th game, the one where he scored $30,600 on January 15, 1990. Frank made Daily Double wagers of $4,000 and $7,000, and a Final Jeopardy! wager of $10,100. Nobody in their right mind is going to make Daily Double wagers of $8,000 and $14,000 under the new system when leading -- you might see one of Ken's opponents try it, but that's a desperation Hail Mary. Also, you're not going to see many people wager over $20,000 in Final Jeopardy unless they have to to guarantee a victory. Therefore, you simply can not make any sort of true comparison between old and new dollar values. --OntarioQuizzer 14:41, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Spangenberg holds the all-time record for the pre-doubling era, so his wagering can hardly be considered typical. He wagered aggressively and it worked out for him. Jennings, on the other hand, has been remarkably conservative in his betting, considering how well he has been doing. He has gone on record as saying he has been avoiding breaking the one-day record. He said that he thought it would cheapen the record to just break it by a small amount like $1. Still, he had a wide enough margin earlier this week to bet $7,200 on a Daily Double.

 * If you look at Jennings' best 5 consecutive games (26-30), he won $216,000 which "adjusts" to $108,000, or more than Spangenberg won in his run. So it's certainly possible for someone to break Spangenberg's record using an adjusted scale, because Jennings has done it. He just didn't do it in the first five games, like Spangenberg had to, so he shows up lower in my comparison.

 * Oops, forgot to sign it. Jwolfe 06:47, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC) (time stamp should be 09:41, 21 Jul 2004)

 * I think the comparison provides a good perspective on the game over its long run. How would Spangenberg have done with an unlimited run? We'll never know, of course, but remember he lost at least three tournaments (his ToC, Super Jeopardy!, and the Masters Tournament). Jwolfe 05:01, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Tournament of Champions
Does it specifically say in the rules that if Ken is undefeated by the end of the 2004 season he can't be in the tournament until the next season? Obviously it wasn't an issue before the removed the 5 day limit, but it seems to me that if he wins enough in each of two consecutive seasons he could qualify to be in both tournaments. I'm not sure if they ever took this into consideration when they changed the rules last year. Also there is a statement on the Jeopardy! talk page that they abolished the ToC entirely, though I have been unable to get confirmation of this. Anyone else heard this? -R. fiend 22:15, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC) The Tournament of Champions for fall 2004 has already been taped. Whether Ken is in the field or not, nobody's talking. --OntarioQuizzer 23:31, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC) Also, what if he continues to be a contestant through 2004 and 2005? The mention of the year at all seems unnecessary and possibly incorrect. anthony (see warning) I have a vague recollection that a contestant was once a five time undefeated champion in a period spanning seasons. Perhaps my memory is faulty, but it makes sense that a contestant wouldn't "return" for the ToC until after that contestant had actually "left". Jwolfe 04:37, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * This case is clearly different from Jennings'; obviously that player couldn't be in the tournament the first year because he hadn't won five games at the close of the season, and they certainly couldn't assume he would be a five time champion until he actually won his fifth game. Therefore he clearly had to wait for the following year's tournament. Jennings is a five time champion (to say the least) this season, which, by the old rules, would qualify him for the tournament this year, and if he has five victories next year he may well qualify for that tournament too. I'm not sure if that's the way it works now with the no-limit rule, but unless they specify otherwise it well could be. Anyone know for sure? Also, this begs the question what if he's champion for the entire next season (which is highly unlikely, I'd like to add)? I suppose they wouldn't have a tournament at all, which would mean he'd lose out on another chance to grab $250,000. Not that I'd feel sorry for him. -R. fiend 03:47, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I believe the rule for populating the ToC is all 5-time champions, then the best of the 4-time champions, then 3-time champions etc. until a roster of 15 players is reached. I guess if you don't even have 15 players that won a game in a season, you'd probably just cancel the ToC and do it next year. Or, bring back the best "losers" of the games to fill the roster. - Grum0613

Most consecutive appearances on a game show
I changed this record, there's proof at this page-. BillyH 00:51, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC) I think we should keep the "Tic Tac Dough" record, saying it's the biggest record by a major game show, or by an American game show. Salasks 03:25, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I put the record back with the qualification of "syndicated," since we already had a syndicated/overall split for total winnings. As I read the web page I found from the above link, 100% appears on Channel 5 in the UK, which is network, not syndicated. Jwolfe 10:07, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Has this record been beaten by Jennings? On December 1st he was on the show during the beginning, which would make his total 76. Does this record matter?

 * No. That's like saying Trebek holds the Jeopardy! record with 4,100+ appearances.

Syndicated Game Show
Is Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? classified as a syndicated game show as Jeopardy! would be? He has broke the Jeopardy! total but am unsure if he has broken the syndicated total if we include Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? as a syndicated game show.
 * There are two versions of millionaire. The syndicated one has a female host instead of Reeg. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 04:05, Jul 21, 2004 (UTC)

Trademarks?
Some of these "trademarks" are a bit of a stretch. He asks the question in a questioning tone when he's not sure of the answer, as most contestants do when basically making a guess. As for betting just $1 more than his nearest opponent's score doubled, well, if i had a dollar in my pocket for every contestant who did that I'd be about as rich as Ken. -R. fiend 01:04, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC) This trademark is also untrue for Ken. In the June 29th game, Ken did *not* follow this strategy - He wagered $10,800 when your strategy dictates $3,201. If you want I will get into why he did it, but it's a long discourse in Jeopardy wagering strategy. --OntarioQuizzer 15:30, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Yes please! Sounds interesting. I didn't catch that game, so I don't know the circumstances. By the way, Jeopardy! wagering strategies would make an interesting article or section in the Jeopardy! article. --Benc 00:39, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

 * The pre-Final Jeopardy! scores were: Ken at $29,200, Alan at $16,200 and Laura at $600. The reason for Ken's wagering of that particular number ($10,800) should be obvious to all of us at this point; he ended that day with a total of $40,000. Ken MUST bet at least $3,201 to seal the win if he answers correctly, and less than $13,000 in order to seal the win if Alan answers incorrectly. To wager outside this range would be stupid, which Jeopardy champions usually are not, especially this one. Alan, knowing this, can bet $13,000 - $3,200 = $9,800 at a minimum in order to ensure that he overtakes Ken if Ken is wrong and he is right. So if Ken bets between $3,201 and $12,999 (inclusive), and Alan bets at least $9,800, then no matter what the precise amount of their wagers, the four following scenarios apply: (1) both right => Ken wins; (2) both wrong => Ken wins; (3) Ken right, Alan wrong => Ken wins; (4) Ken wrong, Alan right => Alan wins. Neither player will dare to wager outside the prescribed ranges, because they then compromise their chances to win. And so it is more or less irrelevant what the exact number wagered is by either player; the wager changes only the amount of money won, not the actual winner. So the "traditional" bet of $3,201 is the lowest possible safe bet, usually made in order to minimize the risk of losing cash. And so Ken, possibly being comfortable with the subject of "Children's Lit," chose to wager as much as he could safely do while still satisfying that need for trailing zeros.
 * With all that said, Jeopardy! wagering strategy really isn't a terribly interesting subject when there are only two real competitors. There is a clear equilibrium strategy that both players will almost always follow in order to achieve a 3:1 advantage for the player who is leading before Final Jeopardy! (The 3:1 figure being valid only if the category is "Things That Nobody Knows But That Everybody Guesses Right Exactly Half The Time By Independent Blind Luck"). Once a third person becomes a contender, it does get a little more interesting. If all this interests you, perhaps you should explore game theory? Aerion 03:40, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Spoiler policy revision
First of all, let me state that I have made no edits to this page under my name or any other (including anonymously). However, I may wish to do so in the future, and, as an East Coast viewer, I'd like to get the spoiler policy clarified. I understand and respect the West Coast viewers' desire not to be spoiled, but at the same time I don't quite agree with the current. East Coasters should not have to juggle time zones if they want to contribute to the article, and some West Coasters may want to know the results ahead of time. More importantly, when (and if :-)) Ken finally loses, you'd better believe that that information will make it to this page straight away. I foresee massive revert wars. And Ken Jenning's losing will be national news; there is absolutely no good reason why the Wikipedia should be forced to lag hours behind the news media. 	My solution: add a or some other appropriate message in front of the winnings. West Coasters not wishing to be spoiled can simply not visit the Ken Jennings page. If they simply want the most recent page minus today's results, I propose creating a Ken Jennings/Spoiler-free page, to be maintained by spoiler-sensitive West Coasters. This page would simply be a mirror of the main page, but not updated for the current show until after it airs on the West Coast. --Benc 05:10, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC) 	If West Coasters don't want to have the results spoiled, they shouldn't visit the page during the time between East Coast and West Coast airings. Plenty of people want to know the results as soon as they're available. Anyone who doesn't want to know the result can simply read the page earlier in the day or after Jeopardy airs in their time zone. This is actually a fairly common thing for all TV shows -- even the Jeopardy! forums carry pretty much the same spoiler policy. It's only fair that the total be updated at 11:00 PM Eastern. Why do *you* have to be the one that puts the new total up anyway? Is it some sort of competition? --OntarioQuizzer 15:32, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * This is an online collaborative encyclopedia; one of its main purposes is to have correct and up-to-date facts and figures. Wikipedia is not a message board, so the Jeopardy! forums' spoiler rules do not apply here. As for your question about competition, please read the first sentence in my original comment. I'm not interested in beating anyone to the punch; I just don't want to see a bunch of nitpicky revert wars when a simple solution (a Ken Jennings/Spoiler-free page) exists. --Benc 18:13, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)
 * I think I agree with Benc. We should just put a tag at the top. However, these recent edits are obviously vandalism, as they are made before 7:30 EST. One thing that is dangerous is that there is a three hour period in which a lot of contributors will not want to look at the page for fear of spoilers, and we will potentially have less eyes guarding from vandalism during that period. It's a tough call, but in the end, this is an encyclopedia, not a fan page. The correct thing to do is post the information as soon as it is available. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 21:44, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)
 * Please note that on my local Boston station, for example, Jeopardy comes on at 5:30 PM, so by 6:00 PM EDT the final results are known, and I see no reason why someone shouldn't post them at that time. And, having just caught the end of today's episode I can verify that the results posted by an anonymous contributer earlier are correct. I find it sort of odd that a person who doesn't want the results spoiled makes a habit of obessively checking the posted results here in order to revert them. As others have said, it's very easy not to read the Jennings article if you don't want to know the results. I'll watch this page for true vandalism in that 5 hour period when I can. -R. fiend 22:18, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Oops, i didn't mean to assume about the time thing. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 22:38, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)
 * I think we should have a vote on this, because it angers me to see that some people are trying to censor this page! This is an encyclopedia, not some sort of message board with restrictions. Who is with me? Earl Andrew 00:05, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Censor!?? We're talking about containing your need to update the page for a few hours. Censoring would be not allowing any results on the page at all. Leave your dramatics at the door. Jewbacca 00:09, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

 * How about just posting the spoiler information in the discussion group until 7:30PST ? Quazywabbit 00:10, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * The problem is pretty much irrelevant for the next six weeks. However, I support the idea of a spoiler warning. It seems like a simpler, more elegant and more practical solution than what we currently have. Aerion 00:21, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I've created a poll at the bottom of the page. Six weeks should be enough time to resolve this issue. Earl Andrew 00:26, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Records
I updated the items in the Records section to include both the current record Ken has and the previous record that Ken broke. That's unwieldy as a long term solution, because you have to update the daily totals in many places. I propose changing the records section to tables, such as the following: Jennings has already broken or tied the following records: Jeopardy! host Alex Trebek often mentions the other possible records that Jennings could break. Included in the records Jennings still has ahead of him (not all of which Trebek has mentioned): What does everyone think? Jwolfe 07:27, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Much cleaner and easier to read, even if it does seem to take up a lot of space on the page. I vote in favor. A few minor things (which I'm sure you were planning on doing later anyway):
 * Omit the redundant "previously" and "currently" in the rightmost columns.
 * The ? should be something like "unknown; please edit this page if you find the answer".
 * Wikify links. :-)
 * --Benc 07:59, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)

 * Looks cool, but i would remove the word "previously" from the "previous records" column, as it is redundant. Anything you can do to reduce the width of the table is good, because wide tables are kind of annoying. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 14:49, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I noticed the "previously" and "currently" thing after I posted it. I also noticed that I managed to unwikify the text when I copied it over. Those two things will have to be fixed in the real version, but I didn't want to spend a lot of time fine-tuning something that might never exist on the real page. The "?" items we can probably determine from the Jeopardy! web site, but I didn't want to do the research until we decided to go with the tables. I'm not sure what we can do about the width issue. Right now your browser is using the cell contents to determine the width automatically, and because of the text it ends up being the full width. Forcing it to be otherwise could create problems with some browsers or screen dimensions. Jwolfe 16:41, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * The wide tables aren't a deal breaker for me, I was just commenting that removing "previously" would help out there. I support the move to tables. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:49, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)

 * I updated the tables with the proposed changes. I even did the research for the consecutive 5 day record. Let me know if I missed anything or if something else could be added. Jwolfe 17:23, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

"The theoretical maximum win for a single day of Jeopardy! is $566,400, but this requires choosing all of the daily doubles last and that they're placed behind lowest-value clues, which the odds are 3,288,600 to 1 against." This sentence implies placement of the daily doubles is random, which I'm sure it isn't, as well as the order in which people uncover clues (again, clearly not random). Is there another way of asserting the improbability of this occurring? Though a salute the use of math needed to calculate this occurance.-R. fiend 04:44, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC) As mentioned at this location (http://www.tvgameshows.net/jep9-9-04.htm), Ken is one wrong Final Jeopardy question away from tying another record. If he blows his 5th consecutive Final Jeopardy question in a row (on Friday September 10th), he'll tie the record held by Faith Love (November 2002) for most consecutive failed Final Jeopardy questions. Considering how hard it is to actually appear in 5 consecutive Final Jeopardy rounds (you have to win 4 games in a row), this should be added to his record list (if it happens).

Teetotaler?
Mormons typically do not drink alcohol so I'd say that saying someone is a Mormon and a teetotaler is redundant and odd especially since the article seems ignorant of the connection between the two. Would you also call someone who is Islamic a teetotaler as if it were an independant characteristic?
 * I would say to leave it only because, when asked about his knowledge of alcoholic beverages by Alex Trebek one time, he did say that it was ironic because he was a "teetotaler". If it were only because of being mormon, he would have just supplied that as his rationale. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:53, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)
 * I second the notion of leaving teetotaler and Mormon separate. While the LDS church (and many other churches) asks this behavior of their members, many members see non-use of alcohol as a seperate issue from religion, per say. After all, Jesus turned water into wine, so clearly a blanket condemnation of alcohol is not strictly correct. However, avoiding alcohol and other drugs can be seen as a reasonable act outside of religions - to avoid addiction, be more alert and able, etc. For the record, I am also a teetotaler (but not Mormon).--KBrown 15:09, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Poll
Notice: this poll ends at 23:59 31 Jul 2004 (UTC) This poll is to decide what the spoiler policy should be for the Ken Jennings article. Additionally, the results of this poll may serve as a precedent for other articles' spoiler policies, if the subject of those articles is in a similar situation (i.e., new syndicated shows) as this one. Background: Since Jeopardy! is a syndicated show, the most recent episode is aired at different times throughout the world. U.S. East Coast viewers get the results several hours before West Coast viewers. Viewers in other countries may have to wait even longer. The problem is that while some viewers don't want to be spoiled by knowing the results of the show before it airs in their areas, other viewers want to be able to add the latest results to Wikipedia without having their work reverted, only to be re-added in a few hours. See also: Talk:Ken_Jennings, Spoiler_warning The question to be answered by this poll is: What should the spoiler policy be for updating this article?

Option 1
No updates are to be made until 7:30pm Pacific Time (10:30pm Eastern Time)
 * 1) --OntarioQuizzer 10:36, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Jwolfe 07:12, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Postdlf 13:40, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) Salasks 14:18, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Option 2
Updates are to be made as soon as the information is known, with a spoiler notice at the top of the page
 * 1) Earl Andrew 00:14, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) R. fiend 11:38, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) Carrp 14:07, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) Benc 04:46, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)
 * 5) Yath 21:33, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) Aerion 04:47, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * 7) DropDeadGorgias (talk) 14:31, Jul 26, 2004 (UTC)
 * 8) cheater 11:51, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * 9) [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 15:52, 2004 Jul 27 (UTC)
 * 10) TomPreuss 13:17, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Option 3
Two pages should be created, one with updated information, one without

Option 4
This is a ridiculous thing to be arguing about
 * 1) anthony (see warning) 14:05, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * 2) Smartass option. :) Neutrality 04:39, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * 3) [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 15:52, 2004 Jul 27 (UTC)

Comments
I would vote for option 2. It seems silly to have two nearly identical pages (pages that will, in fact, be identical 19 hours of each day). However, I would prefer that the single condition be that the page is only changed sometime the same day that the games are broadcast. If some insider leaks information months in advance I would rather not stumble upon it here (I feel this is unlikely anyway). Nevertheless, I think people being asked not to view this page for 5 hours out of the day if they don't want results spoiled is not too much to ask. -R. fiend 01:34, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC) Ken Jennings: Super Genius or Soviet Robot? You decide!
 * Hmm. In either case, he's still fun to watch. :-) --Benc 09:39, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)

Note: this poll lacked an ending date, so I set it to one week after its creation. I also took the liberty of rewrting the intro, and numbering the existing votes. And I added the poll to Current_polls. --Benc 09:39, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)
 * Old intro (by Earl Andrew, 00:14, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)):
 * I figure since this is a hot issue, and the subject of many reverts on the page, I will start a poll. The question is, should we allow updates to this page as soon as the information becomes known, or should we wait until every time zone in the world (let's not forget there are other countries out there than the US too) gets to watch it?

Article Update changes
Ok, following the results of the poll above, this article from now on will be updated as soon as results are known, and there will be a spoiler warning message added to the very top of the article text.
 * Can someone possibly explain to me how the results from *today's* Jeopardy! episode are *already* known at 8:00 AM Eastern? Please? --OntarioQuizzer 14:30, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Apparently there is a source in Germany that is able to update so early? cheater 16:49, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

News articles about Jennings' end
http://www.nynewsday.com/entertainment/ny-etjenn0909,0,1515441.story?coll=nyc-enthome-headlines New York Newsday is reporting when Ken Jennings will lose, and the amount of money he will have when he lost. Should we add that to the encyclopedia? No. New York Newsday uses TV Week as a source, whose reporter used Jason Kottke's blog as a source. Jason Kottke has an informant whose story doesn't add up quite as properly as it should. Additionally, the taping dates are mixed up. Some stories are say Wednesday, others Tuesday. Plus, is it a good idea to post just based on rumour? --OntarioQuizzer 19:18, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC) Question: The article says two sources. Phillip, informing Jason Kottke is one. Who's the second? --OntarioQuizzer 13:53, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC) This is being published in legitimate newspapers and is perfectly acceptable in Wikipedia so long as it is attributed. anthony (see warning) 14:16, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC) I can confirm that Jennings has lost as of early September, and had won more than $2.6 million. I cannot confirm exact days or totals, but I imagine the rumors are largely true, as they seem to be correct so far. I can also state that the person who beat him (evidently a woman) did not not continue any sort of streak that could in any way compare to Ken's. -R. fiend 17:46, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Jennings denying rumor?
Ken Jennings actually didn't deny the rumor -- he can't confirm or deny it, since he's tethered to a hyper-strict confidentiality agreement with the show. I don't really know how to rephrase the relevant sentence, however, since I think we do need to show that there is some doubt about the rumor's authenticity... --zenohockey 19:11, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Opponents' names list
I assume that the parentheses and the explanation that the opponent was "unable to write Final Jeopardy" means that the player was eliminated at the end of Double Jeopardy for lack of money, am I correct? Unable to "write" sounds awkward and misleading. Could it be changed to "unable to compete in" or "ineligable to compete in"? Otherwise it sounds like they just drew a blank or their pen didn't work or something. -R. fiend 04:40, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC) Ineligible it is. Thanks! cheater 18:12, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Jennings vs Lygo?
I don't understand this sentence: Regardless, Jennings would tie Ian Lygo on his 75th appearance if he lasts, and Lygo won and was retired by producers. Several elements make this sentence unclear -- passive voice, compound architecture, jargon phrase "retired by producers," etc. As best I can tell, the author is saying that (1) both Jennings and Lygo appeared 75 times, (2) that Lygo won his 75th game, and (3) that Jennings lost his 75th game. Whether or not that interpretation is correct, the sentence needs a re-write from someone who knows what it's supposed to say. Cribcage 16:32, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

What are Humorous Anecdotes
Funny Things During Ken's Reign on Jeopardy Answer: "A 1997 court case made this term for African American English widely known" Ken: "What be Ebonics?" (From Brian) Alex mentioned that "Lawyers" (like Ken's Dad) "make great Jeopardy contestents - they get a broad education and are trained to think quickly on their feet." Ken replied, "and they're good at separating people from their money." Alex asked, "What are you going to do after Jeopardy?" Ken answered: "I can now be on TV shows with other 'C' list celebrities." and looked at Alex. Alex "Tell us some deep, dark secret about yourself." Ken "I killed a man down South once." Written as an answer to a Final Jeopardy Question by a Ken opponent "What is whatever Ken wrote."
 * I think that's actually "What is same as Ken's answer?" - see JEOPARCHIVE! June 16, 2004 Aerion 20:40, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Alex "Which two opponents from history would you think would make a good game?" Ken "Thomas Jefferson and Oscar Wilde" Alex "... Why ...?" Ken "They always say that Thomas Jefferson was the smartest President. 'How well would you do on Jeopardy, Declaration Boy?'"
 * --Contributed by User:65.126.6.238

 * I also remember him answering some question about a historical Spanish figure with "Quien es ..." They accepted that answer as well. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 17:50, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

Maximum winnings in one day - adjustment needed again?
I'm beginning to think that the tidbit in the "Daily winnings" section regarding the maximum possible amount won in a single day may need to be revised yet again. During my time watching Jeopardy! as Ken has been on there, I have NEVER seen a Daily Double hidden beneath the two lowest values in a category ($200 and $400 in first round, $400 and $800 in second round). In fact, whenever Ken goes on his characteristic hunt for a yet-to-be-found Daily Double, he always starts at the middle value in the category ($600 in first round, $1200 in second round) and works down the category towards the highest value, as he did today. If indeed this is how Daily Doubles are applied to the board, then the amounts quoted as being the maximum winnable in a single day are incorrect since they are calculated using the assumption the Daily Doubles are placed under the lowest value. 207.177.12.182 20:21, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's sufficient justification to make a change at this time -- the current numbers reflect the maximum theoretical limit based on what we know. If we knew for a fact that Daily Doubles were never placed on lowest-numbered clues, or that there were other limitations in place, then the figures could be adjusted accordingly, but not based merely on an observed pattern from a limited number of episodes. I'm fairly certain I've seen Daily Doubles on lowest-valued clues once or twice before. Even if all clue values aren't equally weighted in terms of Daily Double selection, that doesn't neccessarily mean that they'll never show up there - there could be some kind of distribution curve in which the lowest values are much less likely to be selected than the higher values. In that case, the theoretical maximum is unchanged, but it becomes even more astronomically unlikely that it'd actually happen. --63.190.112.66 20:16, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * I'm quite sure there's nothing in the rules stating that daily doubles are never the lowest value clues. That being said, I have never seen them there, and wouldn't be surprised if they never have been. Nevertheless, as the above user stated, it doesn't matter because it's all theoretical. No one would ever risk all their money on final jeopardy when they already were guaranteed a quarter million and a chance to come back and earn that again. It's basically a meaningless figure, but it is a mathematical fact. The daily doubles are not placed randomly; they are specific clues written to be daily doubles, and written to be specific values in terms of their difficulty, usually being the somewhat more difficult ones. Therefore using math to calculate the probability of a "perfect game" is also meaningless, and probably doesn't even deserve mention. Anyway, the official jeopardy book lists the same value we list as the theoretical maximum, so I'm thinking we have it right. -R. fiend 05:49, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * You're right, the Daily Doubles can appear anywhere on the board, because the other day one was located under a $800 clue in Double Jeopardy!, which blows my theory out of the water. Torin Darkflight 05:14, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)

Airdate of Ken's 'loss'
Unless someone is sure of the exact date Ken will lose it's best not to be too specific. My calculations (based on the tape date of his loss) put the air date in early December. If that contradicts other's calculations then one should keep in mind special themed weeks which may fall in between (such as last weeks "kid's week"), or other potential factors. In any case, I'm changing it back to "November or December". -R. fiend 02:36, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * My calculations put the alleged loss earlier than that. However, because I'm against posting the exact date of the alleged loss, I'm not going to say which day it will be. --OntarioQuizzer 05:37, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Are there any special themed weeks coming up? If not then his 75th appearance should fall on November 17th. -- DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:28, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

It's certain to be in Dec because the College Tournament will take two weeks, according to Jeopardy! commercials. I doubt there will be another theme week between that and Ken's loss after that. Game 67- Nov 5 Game 68- Nov 8 Game 69- Nov 9 Game 70- Nov 24? Game 71- Nov 25 Game 72- Nov 26 Game 73- Nov 29 Game 74- Nov 30 Game 75- Dec 1 at earliest
 * Game 68 aired on November 6th (the 7th in Canada). Yes, this was on a weekend. --OntarioQuizzer 11:20, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Perhaps, but I think the college tournament was just taped a couple weeks ago, well after Ken's loss, and won't air until late December or January. -R. fiend 15:34, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Recent TV ads announce the college tournament beginning this Wednesday, November 10. Confirmed here. Aerion 05:40, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Guess I'm wrong then, though that does basically confirm what I said all along, in that Ken's loss wouldn't air until December. Still, I thought they taped the college tournament around Sept. 21. I wonder if they ever air these things non-chronolgically. Maybe it's the high school tournament that will be aired in Decemeber/January; there's something going on then. -R. fiend 05:47, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * There is no way to know right now if Ken will lose or not. Besides, I don't think rumors that were true would be allowed in the press. Marcus2 22:25, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * He WILL lose by early December; that is fact. As for the rumors, well, who's to stop them? And do you mean to imply that false rumors would be allowed? Jeopardy has a stake in having the date of his loss be approxiamtely known. The ratings for Ken's defeat should be about their best ever, but it doesn't do them any good if people don't know about it until after it airs. -R. fiend 22:58, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Concur: they need to fight as hard as possible to keep it from getting out... and lose. :-) I was told just tonight that someone had seen a rumor concerning *tonight* in the NYT, but since I don't see it here, I assume TiVo won't provide me with any surprises. Even though it isn't TiVo, it's MythTV

Detailed statistics
I have posted an external link to the source of my Ken Jennings detailed statistics data that was previously on the table. Please do not post the compiled statistics themselves to the article, just use the link. --OntarioQuizzer 18:36, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ken should lose on...
These are my calculations for when Ken should lose, based on the currently-known episode schedule: So, if this schedule holds up (Which means no more theme weeks, and no show-postponing events occur), and the rumors are true, then Ken will lose on November 30, exactly three weeks from today.
 * Except that the 24th, 25th and 26th are the days around Thanksgiving and I bet Jeopardy! either broadcasts reruns or nothing at all rather than being preempted by local content. I don't know why else they would start a tournament in the middle of the week... If that's true, that would put the notorious episode 75 on Friday, December 3. R ADICAL B ENDER ★  22:00, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Jeopardy's broadcast first-runs every other season over Thanksgiving. Why stop now? --OntarioQuizzer 22:04, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * According to the DirecTV programming guide listing our local channels for Thanksgiving day, a new episode of Jeopardy IS to be broadcast, it's just being pushed back to a later time. Although, I imagine the decision to preempt the Thanksgiving-day episode is up to the individual local broadcasters, so some may see a new episode that day, while others will either see it a day late, or might not see it at all. Perhaps a note regarding this should be added? Torin Darkflight 21:06, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

 * In Los Angeles, the 74th episode was shown on the 27th. Was that the case in other areas?

 * No, it wasn't the 74th, it was the 73rd—preemption due to Monday Night Football pushed all episodes in LA back a day this week. --DanielNuyu 05:31, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * No, it would have been the 72nd in that case. The 74th episode is scheduled to air 11/29. --OntarioQuizzer 08:20, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Okay, what I've meant to say is that in LA, instead of the 73rd airing on Friday (as it was in other markets), it aired on Saturday (all episodes of the week aired one day later—perhaps I should have said 'forward' instead of 'back'). --DanielNuyu 22:59, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * That's fine, just as a warning: KABC plans to air game 74 at 9:30pm on 11/29. --OntarioQuizzer 08:14, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Yeah, and given the fact that they haven't shown an episode on a Monday for weeks since this week is all the more indication for me that Ken will lose on Tuesday; they want to make sure LA can see the 75th on Tuesday with everyone else. --DanielNuyu 02:47, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Any allegations of cheating?
I hate to be the first person to ask, but are there any rumors on the game being rigged in any way? It is just entertainment, so the producers aren't obligated to be truthful. Survivors weren't all spontaneous, even when it advertized itself as reality TV... I guess it's just in my nature to be skeptical. madoka 04:56, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * Yes, the producers are obligated to be truthful -- thanks to the late '50s game show scandals, we can be sure of that. Also, there are no substantiated allegations of the game being rigged -- and there is no way a show that has been on for 20 years would risk such a thing...The game is honest and Ken is definitely THAT good. --OntarioQuizzer 20:00, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * 50s game show scandal? Interesting. Do you have more information on that? madoka 18:20, Nov 11, 2004 (UTC)

 * As a matter of fact I think it might be mentioned in an online encyclopedia: Quiz show scandals -R. fiend 18:24, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

As a former Jeopardy! participant, I can tell you from first-hand knowledge that they are very meticulous to avoid any hints of impropriety. Alex doesn't talk to the contestants except for what you see on camera. Only two people from the show have any dealings with the contestants, and they do not have any knowledge of the questions or answers. Contestants and those waiting to go on in later shows (they tape 5 a day) are sequestered, even at lunch. RickK 21:49, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)

College Championships
Any idea why the College Championships is starting on a Wednesday instead of a Monday? RickK 21:49, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * They want to avoid the Finals of the tournament running into Thanksgiving. Also, the thought of a Monday-Tuesday final invites more suspense and build-up over a weekend. --OntarioQuizzer 01:55, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * They did the same for the Masters Tournament when they ran that - perhaps a Monday-Tuesday final allows more time for dramatic build-up ... or something like that. Aerion 21:26, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Rumor
Removed:
 * "There was also a previous rumor that Jennings lost his 38th game, intentionally, due to his rivalry with Trebek, but this rumor has since proven unfounded."

Is there any source for this? And how if it was proven unfounded, why is it notable enough to be mentioned in the article? Angela. 12:15, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)

Archive?
Can someone archive the earlier Discussion? I'm not entirely sure with the process. --OntarioQuizzer 05:49, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Ken's name
Ken's father definitely signs his correspondence as Kenneth Jennings. Thereby, I do feel it is safe to assume that Ken's full name is also Kenneth. I haven't updated the article with this though, as I feel that it would be best to use the Talk page to discuss this and reach some sort of consensus. --OntarioQuizzer 05:49, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Quote?
Shouldn't this last entry ( 27 Nov 216.126.237.153 (Talk) (Quotes) ) belong in Wikiquote? --DanielNuyu 05:02, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * For that matter, should there even be a Quotes section, given the article includes a link to the Ken Jennings entry on Wikiquote? Torin Darkflight 05:24, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)

 * I agree. The Quote section should be part of Wikiquote. --OntarioQuizzer 08:20, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Okay—I will move it to Wikiquote then. --DanielNuyu 02:46, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It is true, he lost in the 75th game
Marketplace from American Public Radio reported the rumor was true, that he lost the game. So, a real estate dealer tried to beat Jennings.

Is there a website that shows all of the different ways Ken wrote his name on Jeopardy? I'd certainly like to see it as it was part of the entertainment for me every day.

Article cleanup
The most obvious thing that I don't think needs to be in this article is the listing of people who will be in the next Tournament of Champions. That should be put in its own article, if it should be put anywhere at all, especially since the list is incomplete and inconclusive. Other things that need to be cleaned up are the numerous occurences of the present tense and other phrases that imply that the streak is ongoing. Aerion 05:01, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Gathering Data
I'm amazed not only by the amount of biographical information people have been able to gather about Jennings, but at the amount of time taken by someone to list EVERY episode in which he appeared, together with his competitors' names and the final outcomes!!! Is there a source where all this data is available readily, or did a fantatic actually spend time keeping track of each of the 75 shows on which he appeared (which isn't likely since his long-term winning streak wasn't evident at the time he first appeared)? TOM 17:49, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
 * When I started the table after game 20-something, it was done with the help of JEOParchive!, although it didn't include opponent names (of course, those are also in JEOParchive!). After that, it was updated one game at a time by whoever got the information first. I imagine the dialy episode summaries on the Jeopardy! message boards probably came in handy sometimes. You can find links to both those places in the External links section of the article. Aerion 22:15, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

David Haskins...or David Hankins???
Someone needs to find out if David Haskins's name is David Haskins or David Hankins. --Super-Magician 22:54, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
 * Hankins. Fixed. Aerion 19:32, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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Utah Transit Authority

The Utah Transit Authority (UTA) is a special service district responsible for providing public transportation throughout the Wasatch Front of Utah, in the United States, which includes the metropolitan areas of Ogden, Park City, Provo, Salt Lake City and Tooele. It operates fixed route buses, flex route buses, express buses, ski buses, three light rail lines in Salt Lake County (TRAX), a streetcar line in Salt Lake City (the S-Line), and a commuter rail train (FrontRunner) from Ogden through Salt Lake City to Provo. UTA is headquartered in Salt Lake City with operations and garages in locations throughout the Wasatch Front, including Ogden, Midvale and Orem. Light rail vehicles are stored and maintained at yards at locations in South Salt Lake and Midvale. UTA's commuter rail equipment is stored and serviced at a facility in Salt Lake City. In, the system had a ridership of , or about per weekday as of.

History
The Utah Transit Authority traces its roots to 1953 when several bus companies united to form the organization. Ironically, among the constitutive companies of the UTA was National City Lines, famous for its alleged cannibalization of American streetcar lines on behalf of General Motors. NSL had bought out and promptly decommissioned the electric trolleys operated by the Utah Light and Traction Company in Salt Lake City neighborhoods like the Avenues in the 1940s.

Throughout the 1950s buses became more and more unpopular, with low gas prices and subsidized construction of highways like Interstate 15. By 1960, bus ridership was only about one third the level of war-time Salt Lake, and the average age of riders was 14.

In 1969, the Utah State Legislature passed the Utah Public Transit District Act, which allowed individual communities to address transportation needs by forming local transit districts. UTA was subsequently founded on March 3, 1970, when the cities of Sandy, Salt Lake City, and Murray voted to form a transit district. Service was extended to Weber and Davis counties in 1973 and to Utah County in 1985. Today, the UTA's service area is over 1400 sqmi and covers seven counties: Box Elder, Davis, Salt Lake, Summit, Tooele, Utah, and Weber.

UTA saw rapid expansion through the mid-1970s and 1980s. It strove to streamline the bus system, connecting the east and west sides of the Salt Lake Valley with east–west routes along 2100 South, 3300 South/3500 South, and 4500 South/4700 South, in 1975. Four bus routes to Granger, Hunter (which today comprise West Valley City), Kearns, Magna, and Tooele were also created the same year. Sunday service on 25 routes began in 1975, only to be removed in 1988. (Sunday service resumed in 2001.) In 1976, the UTA began offering ski bus service to Alta, Brighton, Snowbird, and Solitude ski resorts in Big and Little Cottonwood Canyons. Today, the UTA offers seasonal buses to those four resorts as well as Snowbasin Resort and Powder Mountain in Weber County and Sundance Resort in Utah County.

Since the turn of the century, the entire service area of UTA has seen bus route redesigns, beginning with Utah County in 2000. Weber and Davis Counties saw an overhaul of their bus routing in 2002. The largest and most comprehensive change in routing occurred in August 2007 in Salt Lake County, with the goal of increasing ridership by twelve percent. Prior to 2007, night service had different numbering and routing than regular daytime service. After the redesign, nighttime routes were to retain the same routing and numbering as their daytime counterparts. Routes were consolidated as well, with 69 routes reduced to 60. Fifteen-minute service during weekday daytime hours was extended from two to 11 routes, and all other routes in the system had 30-minute service during weekday peak hours at the very least. "Fast buses," which connected suburbs to the city and charged the same fare as local buses (as opposed to express buses, which required a higher fare), were also introduced and expanded. The redesign proposal was met with criticism, with low-income advocacy groups claiming that the redesign focused too heavily on commuters rather than the disadvantaged. The route redesign achieved its intended goal—from 2007 to 2011, bus ridership in the entire system increased from 77,500 to 88,700, an increase of 18 percent.

Beginning in 2010, a decline in funding that UTA was receiving from sales tax revenues resulted in service reductions. Fast bus trips were substantially reduced, with many fast bus routes being cut altogether. Saturday and night service saw cuts as well. The opening of two new TRAX extensions exacerbated bus route service cuts, especially in the western side of the valley; routes that previously traveled from the western suburbs to downtown would end at Green Line stations, with riders expected to complete the rest of their journeys via the Green Line. For the first time in 2010, there was no service on Memorial and Labor days. Service on those holidays was later restored, and as of 2020 UTA provides bus and rail service on most holidays with the exception of Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's Day. As UTA's rail expansion projects draw to a close and revenues increase, the agency has indicated that it will slowly begin restoring service in the near future.

Amidst the service cuts and rail expansions, UTA struck a deal with Park City and Summit County to begin operating an express bus between Salt Lake City and Park City in October 2011. This express service was called PC-SLC Connect until High Valley Transit took over the route with its 107 service.

Bus service
UTA currently offers over 120 bus routes within its operational area. Most of these routes provide regular transportation throughout the day, while many are primarily commuter routes. Some are special services, such as ski routes that only operate seasonally. Current ski routes include route 953 (Alta/Snowbird/Midvale), route 972 (Brighton/Solitude/Midvale), route 994 (Alta/Snowbird/Sandy), Route 880 (Sundance/Provo), route 674 (Powder Mountain/Ogden), route 675 (Snowbasin/Ogden) and route 677 (Snowbasin/Layton). Occasionally, will also offer service for special events or extend service on certain days of the year such as New Year's Eve. UTA regularly modifies or changes its bus routes, but whenever reasonably possible (other than temporary detours) limits the adjustments to Change Days. The majority of bus routes stay within the Ogden to Provo corridor, with limited service south to Santaquin, in Utah County, and north to Brigham City, in Box Elder County. Service to Santaquin is limited to one route, the 805, which is an Express bus to Utah Valley University. In Brigham City, Rt. 630 connects Downtown Brigham City with the Ogden Transit Center. Rt. F638, (F stands for Flex route) runs around Brigham City approximately every hour from 8am-4pm every weekday, no weekend service.

Bus rapid transit

The Utah Valley Express line operates between Provo Central station and Orem Central station via Brigham Young University and Utah Valley University, utilizing a dedicated busway across most of the route located in the center median of University Parkway, University Avenue, and East 700 North. The line opened in August 2018 and uses 60-foot articulated buses with doors on both sides of the bus to load passengers from busway stations located in the center median.

The Ogden Express line is a line between the Ogden Central Station and McKay-Dee Hospital, utilizing a dedicated busway that cuts through the campus of Weber State University and in the center median of Harrison Boulevard. On August 29, 2022, a short section of the line, entirely on the Weber State University busway opened. The rest of the line opened on August 20, 2023. The line uses 40-foot battery-electric buses.

UTA previously operated the 3500 South MAX line between Magna and the Millcreek TRAX station via West Valley City. The line was suspended in 2020 at the start of the COVID-19 pandemic and is now permanently discontinued.

Free trolley service
UTA has three bus routes that run trolley-replica buses, the 601, 628, and 667, which serve Ogden, Midtown (Clearfield/Layton) and Farmington (Lagoon amusement park), respectively. Service is free on these routes. All three routes run 30-minute service on weekdays, and 60-minute service on Saturdays. None of the three routes run on Sunday.

Flex routes
UTA has 17 bus routes that are allowed to deviate up to 3/4 mi from their set route to pick up or drop off passengers. These "flexible" routes are called Flex routes and are indicated by the letter "F" at the beginning of the route number (e.g. F618). Flex routes combine the convenience of curb-to-curb service with regular fixed routes making them a viable option for many paratransit riders. Certain rules and restrictions apply to Flex routes:
 * Only two deviations are allowed per trip; however, even with deviations, routes maintain a schedule and never depart designated stops early.
 * Riding Flex routes costs the same as regular routes; however, the cost for deviations is an additional $1.25 (in addition to the regular fare).
 * Deviations may be scheduled up to seven days in advance but not less than two hours prior to travel time and can be made by calling 801-BUS-RIDE (801-287-7433) between 8:30 a.m. and 3 p.m.

Paratransit
Throughout its area of operation, UTA provides paratransit service in addition to its FLEX routes for qualifying disabled passengers that are unable to, either temporarily or permanently, utilized the other transportation services provided by UTA (including bus service, TRAX, the S-Line, and FrontRunner). Although the cost to UTA for this service is substantial to UTA, the fare remains the same for passengers.

Paratransit fare is $4 for one-way curb-to-curb transportation. Riders must be pre-qualified to use the service.

Transit centers
UTA operates three transit centers which are open and staffed by customer service personnel during business hours (or extended business hours) Monday through Friday (except holidays). The first two are Salt Lake Central station and the Ogden Central Station, which are both served by FrontRunner and inter-county and local bus service (as well as TRAX, in the case of Salt Lake Central). All other transportation hubs operated by UTA (including Central Pointe, Murray/Murray Central, West Valley Central, Orem Central and Provo) stations are not staffed by customer service personnel.

In addition to the transit centers, UTA offers customer service by telephone for extended business hours Monday through Saturday. In addition to English, assistance can usually be provided in the following languages: Chinese, French, Spanish, Tongan, and Vietnamese.

TRAX light rail
Population growth and accompanying congestion led to the study of the feasibility of light rail in the Salt Lake Valley in the early 1990s. A 1993 initiative to use tax revenues to purchase an underutilized rail corridor for potential light rail use was rejected by Salt Lake County voters. The County Commission opposed increasing taxes for light rail and even hired a lobbyist to this end. Nonetheless, the Utah Transit Authority moved forward and was able to make the purchase using other available funds. UTA also lobbied for funding and in August 1995 won $240 million from the federal government as part of the budget for I-15 reconstruction. The light rail system was called TRAX. This federal grant amounted to over two-thirds the cost of the Blue Line to Sandy, and further bills would fund a second line to the University of Utah. Salt Lake City's successful bid to host the 2002 Winter Olympics gave the light rail project some priority over transit projects in other cities competing for federal funds; Secretary of Transportation Federico Peña explained, "The Winter Olympics in Salt Lake are not just Salt Lake's Olympics. They are the nation's Olympics." Nonetheless, UTA's cost-effective light rail project merited the support of the Federal Transit Administration and would have been funded and constructed regardless of the Olympics.

TRAX became operational December 4, 1999, with an initial route of 17.3 miles—the Blue Line, then simply dubbed the Sandy/Salt Lake Line—from Sandy to Downtown Salt Lake City. In celebration, UTA offered free rides on the new line all day, and local residents stood in long lines to be packed into the new light rail cars. The Blue Line was expanded in April 2008 to Salt Lake Central station, and as part of UTA's FrontLines 2015 project, a three-station expansion of the line further south to Draper was completed.

Due to federal funding, the initial 2.3 miles of the Red Line (or the University Line, as it was initially named), from downtown Salt Lake to the University of Utah, was operational by December 15, 2001—after 16 months of construction and well ahead of the original schedule. Construction was expedited to be completed before the 2002 Winter Olympics, to enable spectators to take TRAX to the opening ceremonies at Rice-Eccles Stadium. In light of heightened security in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, however, light rail service was suspended during the opening and closing ceremonies. Buses were used instead, and though also vulnerable, transported attendees without incident. An extension of 1.5 miles further east to the University of Utah Medical Center was completed September 29, 2003, and an expansion of 10.6 miles to South Jordan in the southwestern corner of the metropolitan area opened on August 7, 2011, with service to the Daybreak Community. At this same time TRAX lines began to be referred to by a color-coded name (rather than destinations) and the Red Line trains no longer traveled downtown, instead bypassing the city center and heading south and then southwest.

The success of TRAX led to the creation of a third line—the Green Line—which runs from the Airport station at the Salt Lake International Airport through Downtown Salt Lake City to West Valley Central station in West Valley City. This line also originally opened on August 7, 2011, and services 18 stations. The Airport extension of the Green Line, which added six new stations and provided rail service from downtown Salt Lake City to the Salt Lake International Airport for the first time, opened for service on April 14, 2013.

FrontRunner commuter rail
In 2002, UTA announced a deal with Union Pacific to purchase a segment of track and right-of-way for a commuter rail line from Salt Lake City to Pleasant View, just northwest of Ogden. The new commuter train was named the FrontRunner in reference to the fact that it was intended to run up and down the Wasatch Front. Construction on the FrontRunner corridor began on August 10, 2005; seven stations opened running from Ogden to Salt Lake City on April 26, 2008. As part of the FrontLines 2015 project, the commuter rail corridor has been expanded south 44 mi to Provo. Service began on the new southern extension on December 10, 2012. Future expansion may extend the corridor north to Brigham City in Box Elder County, and south to Payson and then Santaquin, with the possibility of even extending as far south as Nephi in Juab County.

In late 2020, the UTA began a virtual Open House event where citizens of Tooele were able to comment on a potential expansion of FrontRunner or bus service from Salt Lake City to Tooele County.

The S Line
The S Line (formerly known as Sugar House Streetcar) is a streetcar transit line that connects Sugar House (a neighborhood of Salt Lake City) with the neighboring city of South Salt Lake, as well as the UTA TRAX system. It is a joint project between UTA, Salt Lake City, and South Salt Lake. The S-Line runs along the old Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad (D&RGW) line (which lies between 2100 South and the I-80 freeway) from the Central Pointe TRAX Station in South Salt Lake east to McClelland Street (1040 East) in Salt Lake City. The S Line line differs slightly from the TRAX lines in that it travels a slower speed, stops more often, and has "stops" instead of "stations". It is also intended for shorter trips than TRAX, as the initial length of the entire line is only about 2 miles.

Phase 1 of the S-Line opened for service on December 8, 2013. Future plans (Phase 2) include extending the line to run further north through Sugar House, but funding for the extension has not yet been secured.

In addition to the S-Line, several other areas in and around Salt Lake City are being evaluated for similar streetcar lines, but no specific projects have been announced so far.

Rideshare
UTA also provides many commuting alternatives through UTA Rideshare. Many of the Rideshare options involve a combination other transportation alternatives (e.g., bicycle lockers at rail stations, bicycle racks on buses as well as the FrontRunner and TRAX trains). While many of these alternatives are provided by UTA, some are coordinated with other alternative transportation alternatives (e.g., Enterprise CarShare).

One of the most visible is the UTA Vanpool program wherein commuters carpool together and share the cost (based on total monthly mileage), while UTA provides the van, fuel, vehicle maintenance, vehicle insurance, replacement van support, and up to 50 miles per month for personal use of the van. The commuters must also provide designated drivers and a bookkeeper.

Other services of Rideshare include the Ridematching Database for those seeking partners for more traditional carpooling, suggestions for other alternatives to regular commuting, and options for employers to encourage and/or subsidize many of the alternatives suggested by Rideshare.

Change Day
UTA periodically adjusts its bus, TRAX, S-Line and FrontRunner schedules to meet changing ridership needs. Unless an urgent need arises, such as when a fairly major adjustment to resolve connections with the FrontRunner was made in February 2013, UTA generally limits Change Days to the middle part of April, August, and December each year. Changes can include new routes, elimination of routes, route changes, and schedule changes. Many of UTA's seasonal bus routes (such as ski bus service) also either begin or end on Change Days.

Area of operations
UTA operates in Box Elder, Davis, Salt Lake, Tooele, Utah, and Weber counties. Access extends from Brigham City in the north to Santaquin in the south. Service area includes of all cities in between, heading as far west as Grantsville in Tooele County. UTA also provides service to many of the major ski resorts along the Wasatch Front during the winter months.

Accessibility
All of UTA's TRAX and FrontRunner trains and stations, streetcars and streetcar stops, and buses are compliant with Americans with Disabilities Act and are therefore accessible to those with disabilities. Signage at the stations, on the passenger platforms, and on the trains and streetcars clearly indicate accessibility options. Ramps on the passenger platform and assistance from the train operator may be necessary for wheelchair boarding on the Blue Line on weekdays only; these ramps are not used on weekends or on the Red or Green Lines. In accordance with the Utah Clean Air Act and UTA ordinance, smoking is prohibited on UTA property.

Park-&-Ride
There are numerous free Park-&-Ride lots throughout UTA's operational area. Many are operated by UTA in conjunction with its TRAX and FrontRunner stations or other transit centers, but others are maintained by the Utah Department of Transportation (UDOT). In addition, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) has designated many of its meetinghouses' parking lots for use as well. Some Park & Ride lots offer 24-hour parking, while others offer extended or multi-day parking.

UTA operates parking garages in conjunction with two of its stations, the Jordan Valley TRAX station in West Jordan and the Draper FrontRunner station in Draper. UTA also has a "kiss-and-ride" lot at the Draper FrontRunner station. The only parking provided at the Draper station is within the parking garage. There was also parking available on the nearby street before the city of Draper prohibited parking along FrontRunner Boulevard.

UTA funding sources

 * Local option sales tax – 70.9 percent
 * Federal funding – 13.1 percent
 * Fares – 11.2 percent
 * Investments – 3.1 percent
 * Advertising – 1.3 percent
 * Other – .3 percent

Fares
UTA's bus fares are fixed price, based on the service type, with express routes costing more. As of April 1, 2013, the basic bus and TRAX fare is US$2.50, and Paratransit is US$4 A fare on one mode of transit will usually transfer to another (e.g., bus to TRAX, FrontRunner to TRAX or bus, etc.). Paper and electronic transfers are issued and valid for use on other buses, TRAX and the S-Line. Fares on FrontRunner are distance-based and can be transferred to TRAX or bus, but TRAX or bus fare cannot be transferred to FrontRunner without purchase of an upgrade. Exemptions apply to kids below 6, who ride free with fare-paying rider, up to 3.

Numerous fare products and a variety of discounts and discount passes are available for eligible riders. These include all day and monthly passes purchased at local stores; passes for college students, minors, and seniors; Group Passes; and employer-sponsored passes. Ticket machines at all FrontRunner, MAX, TRAX and S-Line stations accept cash and major debit and credit cards. While ticket machines provide change for cash purchases, cash paying riders must have the exact fare amount upon boarding buses, as change is not available.

In 2009, UTA launched an automated fare collection system (ARC) to collect fares with contactless smart cards. As the first full AFC system in the United States to accept contactless bank cards, the UTA system, implemented in conjunction with Vix Technology, received the 2009 Innovation Award from the American Public Transportation Association and the 2009 Sesames Transportation Award.

UTA is now offering a prepaid fare card called FAREPAY. FAREPAY cards can be used to quickly pay fares on any UTA operated transportation (except paratransit). The cards can be purchased online or a UTA customer service center, as well as select retailers. The cards have a one-time US$3 activation fee, but can then be loaded (or reloaded) with as little as US$5 or as much as US$500. Reloading of cards may also be done online or at a UTA customer service center, as well as the same select retailers that sell the cards. Riders who pay with FAREPAY receive 40 percent off bus fare, 20 percent off TRAX and S-Line fare and up to 20 percent off FrontRunner fare. This promotion has been extended until December 31, 2017.

UTA currently has a Free Fare Zone in downtown Salt Lake City which allows transportation patrons that both enter and exit bus or TRAX service within the zone to ride at no charge. The zone was originally created in 1985 and covers an area of approximately 36 city blocks. The boundaries are roughly North Temple, 200 East, 500 South and 400 West. TRAX stations within the zone include Arena, City Center, Courthouse, Gallivan Plaza, Planetarium, and Temple Square. In addition, the Free Fare Zone also includes the area of the State Capitol (north to 500 North), the bus stops on 400 South between 200 East and 300 East, and three additional TRAX stations: Library, Old GreekTown, and Salt Lake Central. In June 2012 UTA revealed plans to eliminate the Free Fare Zone, but by September 2012 it announced that it would continue the zone, but with some minor adjustments, including when and how fares are collected for service ending outside the zone.

UTA has been criticized for having some of the highest fares in the transportation industry. In 2011 UTA raised fares as part of a change in the way it handled fuel surcharges. "A recent analysis by The Salt Lake Tribune shows that the UTA already had among the highest bus and train fares in the nation before the new fare hike. Its current total fare of US$2.25 was tied for fifth-highest among 193 transit systems nationally that responded to an American Public Transportation Association survey completed last August."

UTA fares have not increased since 2013. In 2016, UTA published information showing that the US$2.50 cash fare is comparable to other mid-sized agencies. When the US$1.50 FAREPAY fare is taken into consideration, the fare is lower than many other similar public transit agencies.

Leadership and operation
UTA is governed by a 3-member Board of Trustees that continually directs agency staff to improve public transit along the Wasatch Front. Trustees are appointed by the city and county governments that fund UTA with a local option sales taxes. Board members work with their appointing local representatives to direct UTA so the agency can best meet the needs of individual communities.

Local elected officials may serve on the UTA Board, and one seat is reserved for a member of the Utah Transportation Commission, which is part of the Utah Department of Transportation. The President of the Senate, Speaker of the House, and Governor of the State of Utah each appoint one seat as well.

In July 2013, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) announced that for the year 2012 UTA had earned the "Gold Standard", TSA's highest security rating. TSA also reported that UTA was among only fifteen other mass transit agencies to have earned this rating for the same period.

Higher salaries of executives has been an issue. In 2015, UTA executives opted out of receiving an increase in their compensation and also refused to receive any of their usual annual bonuses for the 2015 and 2016 annual periods. UTA also revised its compensation policy on May 19, 2015, to bring those who are earning less than those in similar job functions at other transit organizations in line with the industry standards.

In 2016, the newly appointed CEO Jerry Benson announced that two of the executive positions were being removed and the departments under those previous executives responsibilities would be absorbed under the remaining members of the executive team.

CEO Jerry Benson was terminated effective May 7, 2018, following the passing of Utah SB 136.

UTA's current executive director is Jay Fox.

Police department
UTA also operates a law enforcement arm, the Utah Transit Authority Police Department. The department conducts law enforcement services, criminal investigations and public safety throughout bus transit, commuter rail, and light rail systems.

FrontLines 2015
The purpose of the FrontLines 2015 project was to meet the increasing transportation needs of the Wasatch Front's growing population. It consisted of expansions to both TRAX and FrontRunner and was the largest expansion in UTA's history. UTA relied heavily on sales tax revenues to fund this project. On December 10, 2012, the FrontRunner South extension opened for service and extended the previous line 45 miles south from Salt Lake City to Provo. This new expansion allows commuters to travel from Provo to Salt Lake City in less than one hour. FrontRunner South was an extension of the previous line, which ran north from Downtown Salt Lake City to Pleasant View in north Weber County. FrontLines 2015 added/expanded four extensions in the TRAX system including the Mid-Jordan extension, the West Valley City extension, the airport extension, and the Draper extension. While all the projects were set to be completed by the year 2015, all of them were completed well ahead of schedule. The mid-Jordan TRAX and West Valley extensions both opened August 7, 2011, and the airport extension opened April 14, 2013, followed by the Draper extension on August 18, 2013. Just prior to the opening of the Draper extension in August 2013, UTA announced that the FrontLines 2015 project had been completed under budget and years ahead of schedule.

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Peter Arundell

Peter John Arundell (8 November 1933 – 16 June 2009) was a British racing driver from England, who raced in Formula One for Team Lotus. He participated in 13 World Championship Grands Prix, scoring 12 championship points.

Born in Ilford, Essex, Arundell became a professional racing driver after finishing his time in the Royal Air Force, competing in Elva and Lotus cars. He won an early Formula Junior race held in England, the John Davy Trophy at the Boxing Day Brands Hatch meeting in an Elva-D.K.W. in 1959. In 1962 he won the British Formula Junior championship in a Lotus 22, and also in 1963 in a Lotus 27. He also won the Monaco Formula Junior race in 1961 and 1962. He won the last Formula Junior race held in England, the Anglo-European Formula Junior Trophy, also at Brands Hatch, in September 1963, in a Lotus 27-Ford.

He marked his arrival in the Formula One World Championship in 1964 with two podium finishes. He was regarded as a strong prospect for the future and a great supporting driver for World Champion Jim Clark.

In 1964, while racing in Formula Two at Reims-Gueux, he had a spin and was hit at high speed by Richie Ginther; Arundell was thrown from the car in the impact, which resulted in him missing most of the 1965 season. Lotus boss Colin Chapman saved his place in the team for 1966, with Arundell finishing third on his comeback in the non-championship South African Grand Prix at East London on 1 January 1966. He did not enjoy any great success and at the end of that year he retired from Formula One, having started only 11 races.

He retired from racing altogether in 1969, and later moved to Florida, where he set up a software company.

Complete Formula One World Championship results
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Non-Championship Formula One results
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 * 1 Following problems with his own car, Jim Clark took over Arundell's car but then ran out of fuel.
 * 2 The engine in Jim Clark's Lotus 43 blew up during practice and Clark took over Arundell's car.

Complete British Saloon Car Championship results
(key) (Races in bold indicate pole position; races in italics indicate fastest lap.) † Events with 2 races staged for the different classes.

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Peter Whitehead (racing driver)

Peter Nield Whitehead (12 November 1914 – 21 September 1958) was a British racing driver. He was born in Menston, Yorkshire and was killed in an accident at Lasalle, France, during the Tour de France endurance race. A cultured, knowledgeable and well-travelled racer, he was excellent in sports cars. He won the 1938 Australian Grand Prix, which along with a 24 Heures du Mans win in 1951, probably was his finest achievement, but he also won two 12 Heures internationales de Reims events. He was a regular entrant, mostly for Peter Walker and Graham Whitehead, his half-brother. His death in 1958 ended a career that started in 1935 – however, he was lucky to survive an air crash in 1948.

Early life and pre-war racing
Yorkshireman Whitehead, coming from a wealthy background, gained from the wool industry, started racing in a Riley when he was 19. He moved up to an ERA B-Type the following season and then scored the first major result for the Alta, when he finished third in the Limerick Grand Prix, a Formula Libre race. In 1936, he shared his ERA with Walker, and finished third in the Donington Grand Prix. He took the ERA to Australia in 1938 while touring on business, where he scored his first major victory, winning the 1938 Australian Grand Prix at Bathurst, as well as the inaugural Australian Hillclimb Championship. He returned in England in 1939 and gained a third place in the Nuffield Trophy.

Post-war racing career
During World War II, Whitehead was a pilot with the Royal Air Force, and he was back in competition as soon as racing was revived, taking his trusty ERA to second place in the British Empire Trophy, held at the Douglas Circuit on the Isle of Man in the summer of 1947. He also raced in the Lausanne Grand Prix, finishing sixth.

In 1948, he survived a plane crash at Croydon Aerodrome, when he was on his way to Milano, to arrange the purchase a Ferrari 125. The accident left him badly hurt and out of racing for a year.

Grand Prix racer
Peter Whitehead and his good friend and co driver Dudley Folland are notable as being the first people to whom Enzo Ferrari ever sold a Formula One car: a Ferrari 125 in 1949. Dudley Folland had the car painted green, with a red Welsh Dragon painted on the bonnet, being a proud Welshman.

Peter won the Velká cena Československa. In doing so, he became the first Englishman to win a major international motor race outside of the United Kingdom since Richard Seaman. The following season, Whitehead made his debut in the Formula One championship at Monaco, but did not start. His next outing in the championship came in the Grand Prix l’A.C.F., where he came close to winning but was slowed with a gearbox problem which he dropped to third. That was to be his only podium finished in 11 championship starts between 1950 and 1954. During 1950 season, he won two minor Formula One races, the Jersey Road Race and the Ulster Trophy, but the biggest career victory came in Sports Cars. He continued to race and win in Formula Two across Europe. Later, he added victories in the 1954 Lady Wigram Trophy, in New Zealand, and repeated the feat in 1956 and 1957. He also won the 1956 Rand Grand Prix. All four of those victories, he was driving a Ferrari.

Sports car racing
1950 saw Whitehead start his first 24 Hours of Le Mans race, together with John Marshall in a Jaguar XK120. The pair finished in 15th place. He teamed up with Peter Walker to win the 1951 race, however, in a Jaguar C-Type, at an average speed of 93.112 mph.

In 1953, Whitehead decided to concentrate on sports cars, and in July, he saw more success sharing a Jaguar C-Type with Stirling Moss in the 12 Heures Internationales de Reims. He returned again in 1954, in a full works supported Jaguar D-Type to win the event again partnered by Ken Wharton. Prior to that first win at Reims, he also won the Hyères 12 Hours.

Later in 1954, again paired with Wharton, he was placed sixth in the RAC Tourist Trophy road race.

Death
Whitehead's last great performance was at Le Mans in 1958 where he came second in an Aston Martin DB3S, sharing the driving with his half-brother, Graham. A couple of months later, on 21 September 1958, Peter and Graham were competing together in the Tour de France, when their Jaguar 3.4-Litre crashed off a bridge into a 30 foot ravine at Lasalle, near Nîmes after overturning twice, with Graham at the wheel. Graham escaped with serious but not life-threatening injuries, but Peter was killed instantly.

Complete Formula One World Championship results
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Non-Championship Formula One results
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Piero Taruffi

Piero Taruffi (12 October 1906 – 12 January 1988) was an Italian racing driver. He raced in Formula One from 1950 to 1956, winning the 1952 Swiss Grand Prix and finishing 3rd in the 1952 World Drivers' Championship. His most notable motorsports victory was the 1957 Mille Miglia, the final running of the cross-country sports car race.

Beginnings
Taruffi began his motorsport career racing motorcycles. He won the 1932 500cc European Championship on a Norton and in 1937 set the motorcycle land speed record at 279.503 km/h (173.68 mph).

Sports cars
Taruffi drove a newly introduced 2-litre, 4-cylinder Ferrari in the 1951 Bari Grand Prix, finishing third behind Juan Manuel Fangio and Froilán González. He completed the 360 km race with a time of 2 hours 58 minutes 40 3/5 seconds. In November 1951 Taruffi participated in the Carrera Panamericana in Mexico. He finished first in the opening leg from Mexico City to León, Guanajuato, a 267 mi leg. Taruffi led second-placed Troy Ruttman by more than four minutes. Taruffi trimmed a further 15 minutes on the Mexico City-Leon leg and another 21 minutes between Leon and Durango. In the process he climbed from 12th to third overall. Taruffi and Luigi Chinetti eventually won the race on 25 November, with a time of 21:57:52. His average speed was 87.6 mph (140.97 km/h).

Taruffi set a world record for 50 mi in an auto of 22 cubic centimetre (1.3 in3) displacement in January 1952. He attempted a 100 mi record but his motor failed after 98 mi. Taruffi was in a two-litre Ferrari for the running of the third Grand Prix de France, in Paris in May 1952. He captured first place with a time of three hours over a distance of 285 mi. His average speed was 95 mi/h. Taruffi placed second to Fangio in the 1953 Carrera Panamericana, with a time of 18:18:51 in a Lancia D24. His time was better than the previous year when he was victorious. In March 1954, Taruffi lost the 12 hours of Sebring with an hour to go, after having led the first three hours, when his Lancia stopped. He pushed it to the pits and team mechanics began working on it with diligence. Taruffi was still out of the car when the O.S.C.A. shared by Stirling Moss and Bill Lloyd crossed the finish line. Taruffi had averaged 81.1 mph before he retired. Taruffi won the 1080 km Giro di Sicilia in April 1954. His time of 10 hours 24 minutes 37 seconds established a record for an event which opened Italy's sports car racing season. It was 14 years old at the time. He averaged 64.4 mi/h in a Lancia D24.

Taruffi and Harry Schell placed fifth overall at Sebring in 1955, driving a Ferrari 750 Monza. Taruffi claimed first place in a Ferrari, at the 1955 Tour of Sicily, with an overall time of 10 hours 11 minutes 19.4 seconds, with an average speed of 105.998 km/h. Taruffi dropped out of the 1955 Mille Miglia, when he suffered a broken oil pump on the course north of Rome. He and eventual winner, Stirling Moss, were vying for the lead in the early stages of the race. Cesare Perdisa won by 22 seconds in the 1955 Grand Prix of Imola, driving a two-litre Maserati. Taruffi spun his car into a straw bale at the edge of the track on the first lap. He was uninjured, though his car was damaged, and he was forced to retire from the race. Jean Behra and Taruffi teamed to secure a fifth-place finish in a Maserati at the 1956 Sebring 12 hours. Taruffi established a world record for Class E cars in June 1956. He raced 100 mi in 46 minutes 27.2 seconds, an average of 129.9 miles per hour (209.04 km/h). Also at Monza, Taruffi broke the one-hour mark of 212.543 kilometres per hour (132.074 mph). A third record he performed was for 200 kilometres. His time was 53 minutes 14.5 seconds. In the 17th running of the Tour of Sicily, in 1957, Taruffi had a small crash while in pursuit of leader Olivier Gendebien. He touched the wall in Gioiosa Marea but continued in his Maserati. Gendebien won in a Ferrari. During the event, J. Olivari was burned to death when his Maserati hit a wall on the course.

Taruffi's last victory was at the 1957 Mille Miglia, the last competitive edition of the Italian race, where he won in a Ferrari 315 S. At the race, Alfonso de Portago suffered a tire failure and crashed his car into the crowd, killing himself, his co-driver Edmund Nelson, and nine spectators. Following this, Taruffi officially retired from competitive racing. He was 50 years of age.

Formula One
Taruffi participated in 18 World Championship Grands Prix, debuting on 3 September 1950. Taruffi drove a Ferrari to victory in the May 1952 Swiss Grand Prix. He led from the start, with the Ferrari of Rudolf Fischer coming in second. Over the course of six seasons he scored a total of 41 championship points. He also participated in numerous non-championship Formula One races. His best season was 1952 where he finished third behind Giuseppe Farina and World Champion Alberto Ascari.

Stock cars
Taruffi drove a Ford stock car owned by Floyd Clymer of Los Angeles in the 2000 mi Pan-American race held in November 1954.

Other Ventures
In 1959 Taruffi authored the book The Technique of Motor Racing. In November 1957 the Saturday Evening Post published Taruffi's article, Stop us before we kill again, where he discussed the 1955 Le Mans and 1957 Mille Miglia races where drivers and numerous spectators lost their lives.

In August 1952 Taruffi designed and patented a racing car with the entry 2,608, 264. The car featured three torpedo-shaped parallel bodies joined together. Independent twin motors and wheels were in the two larger bodies, at left and right. The driver and the passengers sit in the car's central part. The central portion is both higher and smaller than the others. Taruffi commented on the low wind resistance and low centre of gravity of his design. Taruffi died in Rome in 1988, age 81.

Legacy
The Piero Taruffi Museum is located in Bagnoregio, a small town between Viterbo and Orvieto in Central Italy. The museum collection includes a selection of vintage cars and motorbikes from Taruffi's racing career.

In the 2023 biographical sports drama film Ferrari, Taruffi is portrayed by American actor Patrick Dempsey.

Complete World Championship Grand Prix results
(key) (Races in italics indicate fastest lap)

 *  * Indicates shared drive with Juan Manuel Fangio
 *  † Indicates shared drive with Paul Frère

Non-Championship Formula One results
(key) (Races in bold indicate pole position, races in italics indicate fastest lap)

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