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Viro

Viro may refer to:

 * People:
 * Viro Small, African American wrestler
 * Oleg Viro (born 1948), Russian mathematician
 * Catholicos Viro (d. 630), the leader of Caucasian Albanian Church in the early 7th century

 * Places:
 * Estonia (Viro in the Finnish language)
 * Porto Viro, an Italian municipality
 * Viro, Estonia, a village in Setomaa Parish, Võru County, Estonia

 * Other uses:
 * Viro (company), a Croatian sugar company
 * Viro (Elemental Gelade), fictional character the manga series Elemental Gelade

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John Moores (baseball)

John Jay Moores (born July 9, 1944, in San Antonio, Texas, as John Jay Broderick) is an American entrepreneur and philanthropist, and the former owner of the San Diego Padres of Major League Baseball (MLB).

Early life
Moores was born in San Antonio, Texas—the eldest son of Jack and Katherine Broderick. Jack Broderick abandoned his wife, son John, and two younger sons in 1948. In 1950, Katherine wed again, to Cyrus "Red" Moores, a photographer with the Corpus Christi Caller newspaper, and her sons were given their stepfather's name. Red Moores, by then in insurance, moved the family to Houston, Texas in 1960, and John spent his high school years there. He left Texas A&M University before graduating and became a programmer for IBM. He later studied at the University of Houston where he earned his Bachelor of Science degree in economics and a Juris Doctor from the University of Houston Law Center.

Business
He founded BMC Software in Texas in 1980, and was the lead venture capital financier for Peregrine Systems in California starting in 1981, as well as ServiceNow, another California corporation founded in 2005. He served as a director of Peregrine from March 1989 to March 2003 and as chairman of the board from March 1990 through July 2000 and from May 2002 through March 2003, during which he cashed out between US$600 and US$630 million in Peregrine stock. He resigned as Peregrine chairman in February 2003 as part of the company's Chapter 11 reorganization. He also founded JMI Equity. In 1994, Moores purchased the San Diego Padres professional baseball team from Tom Werner. In 2009, he began the process of incrementally selling the Padres to a group of twelve investors, headed by Jeff Moorad (former sports agent and CEO of the Arizona Diamondbacks) for about $500 million. The deal fell through in 2012, and Moores instead sold the team for $800 million to a group led by Ron Fowler. Moores was voted into the Padres Hall of Fame in 2023.

He continues to operate in the IT service management market with continued investments through his venture capital firm JMI Equity.

Philanthropy and activism
Organizations that Moores has supported include the ACLU, the San Diego Zoo, San Diego State University, the San Diego Symphony, San Diego Center for Children, the Boys and Girls Clubs, St. Vincent de Paul Villages, the National Multiple Sclerosis Society and The Scripps Research Institute, where Moores sits on the board.

His 1991 contribution of US$51 million to the University of Houston was the largest in U.S. history to a public university. He served on the University of Houston System Board of Regents from 1991 to 1994. Among many other philanthropic efforts, John and Becky Moores donated US$21 million to establish the John and Rebecca Moores Cancer Center at University of California, San Diego, and over US$20 million to San Diego State University. In 1999, he was appointed Regent of the University of California by Governor Gray Davis until he resigned for unknown reasons in 2007. As UC regent, he worked to make sure Proposition 209 (passed in 1996) was implemented. In 2005, he was elected chair of the Carter Center at Emory University, succeeding Jimmy Carter. Most recently, Moores is a member of the board of trustees for the Blum Center for Developing Economies at the University of California, Berkeley. The center is focused on finding solutions to address the crisis of extreme poverty and disease in the developing world.

Moores is also the founder of the River Blindness Foundation, a non-profit organisation dedicated to research and treatment of Onchocerciasis, the second most common cause of infectious blindness.

In 2016, Moores began negotiations to buy English soccer club Nottingham Forest, with a view to buying between 80% and 100% of the shares from Kuwaiti owner Fawaz Al-Hasawi for a reported $61.87 million. However, the deal unexpectedly collapsed at the eleventh hour, with no clear reason given by either party.

Personal life
In February 2008, Moores' wife Becky filed for divorce, citing irreconcilable differences. Moores gave up ownership of the family home on a golf course at Pebble Beach, California. The property overlooked the Pacific and the 18th fairway of the golf course. The divorce also prompted a major overhaul of the San Diego Padres roster, followed by the sale of Moores's majority ownership of the MLB team. During the divorce proceedings, Moores spent the majority of his time in Texas, and refused to attend Padres and San Diego State games, while his wife regularly attended Padres games. In 2013, Moores married Dianne Rosenberg.

Honors and awards

 * 1996: Donor of the Year by the National Association of Athletic Development Directors
 * 1997: San Diego Jackie Robinson YMCA Human Dignity Award

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Talk:Financial statement

In the modern capitalist system?
"In the modern capitalist system, most governments require publicly-traded companies to issue a set of documents each year called financial statements". This doesn't sound right, "in the modern capitalist system"?. There have been financial statements for as long as there has been written record of man. The reason for them is to keep records. - Jerryseinfeld 21:01, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Yes, it's poorly-worded, but from a financial accounting standpoint it's correct. Financial statements of public companies follow a set form in order to allow comparison between periods and between companies. It's true that the theories they represent predate reporting requirements, but the requirements do exist. Rhobite 21:37, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)

Title
These things are called "financial statements". We don't really refer to a "financial statement" of a company. Hence, the article should, pace Neonumbers, remain here, jguk 11:55, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Financial condition
Can someone explain to me what does "financial condition" mean to the native speaker in the context of this article?

 * To me, it means a company's well-being, from a quantitative standpoint. Financial statements along with MD&A present a view of how well the company is performing financially. They only present facts that can be expressed in monetary units - hence the quantitative standpoint. Rhobite 21:11, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

On the contrary - there are many qualitative points. Directors' reports, operating statements, etc. etc. Also some of the notes to the financial statements may be qualitative in nature, jguk 05:54, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

 * I was referring to the financial statements themselves. You won't find the value of R&D on a balance sheet, for instance. Of course it will be mentioned at length elsewhere in the annual report. Rhobite 06:41, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

 * Not necessarily true as development costs can be capitalised on the balance sheet in certain circumstances - but your main point - that there are some assets (and liabilities) that are not reported on balance sheets is, of course, quite correct. I'd prefer internally-generated goodwill as a better example of something never shown on a balance sheet, but which could be the single most valuable asset of a company, jguk 19:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you, overall structure of the article makes more sense to me now. Since "Financial condition", "promotion", "audit", "system" are all functions of the Financial statements, I moved my edit regarding GAAP/IFRS to a separate section "Standarts and regulation". Maxx.T 12:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Analogy section
I think it would be an improvement to replace the analogy section with brief definitions of the 4 statements with maybe an illustration on how they relate to each other. Comments? --Foggy Morning 15:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup tag
This article seems to have been improved significantly since it was tagged by an unregistered user in May 2008. I'm removing the tag because I can't find anything to clean up. If the original tagger has since registered and/or is watching the page, or if anyone else feels differently, please revert & discuss here. Ivanvector (talk) 16:45, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Title revisited
The things you should not stuff up your nose but instead boil and eat are called "beans". We don't really say that you shouldn't stuff a "bean" up your nose and that you should eat your "bean". That's why the Wikipedia article on beans is appropriately titled Beans. Except that it isn't. "Beans" is a redirect to "bean".

While often we consider a collection of several financial statements issued together, each individual statement in the collection should be able to stand on its own and can be discussed in separation. Also, quite often just a single statement is issued, instead of a collection. Just think of personal financial statements. Google reports about 8,640,000 hits for the search term ["this financial statement" OR "financial statement is"], which shows that the use of the singular form is not that uncommon. Can we move the article back to "Financial statement", in conformance with Article titles, which states: Use the singular form? --Lambiam 08:55, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

 * I agree with what you said, and the title of this article should be in singular form. Thanks for the clarification. —RJN (talk) 10:19, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps this is the best place to mention this? I propose a routine editor pass over this text to address the nearly 100% use of passive voice sentences. Zero percent is the goal. Various other helpful exercises might include removing whichs and thats. The result more concise text, even with words added, and is easier to read. For example, the first two paragraphs can be rewritten thus (for American English)

 * A financial statement (or financial report) is a formal record of the financial activities of a business, person, or other entity. Accountants in particular prefer the term 'financial statement' over others. However, British English and United Kingdom company law refer to a financial statement as an 'account.'

 * Business enterprises use financial statements to present their relevant financial information in a structured and easy-to-understand form. They typically include the management discussion and analysis (MD&A) and the following four basic financial statements:[1].

I didn't login, so maybe 'I' won't come back. Please compare this to the original, and consider these improvements. 71.22.238.46 (talk) 21:19, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Not-for-profit financials
FASB ASC 958-205-05-5 says that "A complete set of financial statements" includes a Statement of Financial Position, A Statement of Activities, and a Statement of Cash Flows. Just like any other business. I'd rather not put in a "citation" tag there until one of the grownups reviews it. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shurikt (talk • contribs) 17:48, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Statement of retained earnings
Is there a reason why the 4th financail statement - Statement of retained earnings - is not mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orielno (talk • contribs) 10:52, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Good catch. Kuru   (talk)  12:33, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Grammer check
"Employees also need these reports in making collective bargaining agreements (CBA) with the management, in the case of labor unions or for individuals in discussing their compensation, promotion and rankings." compensation, promotion should be compenstions, promotions.--Shuer (talk) 20:29, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

2. Income Statement 5.Comprehensive Income Statement
I don't understand the difference on the first section, 2. Income Statement and 5.Comprehensive Income Statement.

Why separate them? Why have a different category for a more comprehensive income statement, if it's still a type of income statement? Ejenriquez (talk) 05:22, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * There isn't a difference, that entry was added a while back by someone who didn't say why they were adding it and didn't provide a source, and I have removed it. There are some types of transaction that might not be included when determining net income on the income statement, but they are included elsewhere on that statement. See other comprehensive income for more detailed info. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:59, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

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Inhabitant of the Netherlands who hates mathematics with a vengeance. Fan of faux humour and in-jokes (not of obscure groaners).

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HMS Alnwick Castle (K405)

HMS Alnwick Castle was one of 44 Castle-class corvettes built for the Royal Navy during the Second World War. She was named after Alnwick Castle in Northumberland. Completed in late 1944, the ship served as a convoy escort until the end of the war, helping to sink one German submarine. The corvette was placed in reserve after the war and was sold for scrap in 1958.

Design and description
The Castle-class corvette was a stretched version of the preceding Flower class, enlarged to improve seakeeping and to accommodate modern weapons. The ships displaced 1010 LT at standard load and 1510 LT at deep load. They had an overall length of 252 ft, a beam of 36 ft and a deep draught of 14 ft. They were powered by a pair of triple-expansion steam engines, each driving one propeller shaft using steam provided by two Admiralty three-drum boilers. The engines developed a total of 2880 ihp and gave a maximum speed of 16.5 kn. The Castles carried enough fuel oil to give them a range of 6500 nmi at 15 kn. The ships' complement was 99 officers and ratings.

The Castle-class ships were equipped with a single QF 4 in Mk XVI gun forward, but their primary weapon was their single three-barrel Squid anti-submarine mortar. This was backed up by one depth charge rail and two throwers for 15 depth charges. The ships were fitted with two twin and a pair of single mounts for 20 mm Oerlikon light AA guns. Provision was made for a further four single mounts if needed. They were equipped with Type 145Q and Type 147B ASDIC sets to detect submarines by reflections from sound waves beamed into the water. A Type 277 search radar and a HF/DF radio direction finder rounded out the Castles' sensor suite.

Construction and career
Alnwick Castle was laid down by George Brown & Co. at their shipyard at Greenock on 12 June 1943 and launched on 23 May 1944. She was completed on 11 November and served as a convoy escort until the end of the Second World War in May 1945.

On 17 February 1945, Alnwick Castle, Lt. Cdr. H.A. Stonehouse R.N.R., and HMS Lark (U11) used depth charges to sink German submarine U-425 near Murmansk.

Alnwick Castle was placed in reserve on 25 May and was sold for scrap in 1958. She arrived at Gateshead in December to be broken up.

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CBL

CBL may refer to:

CBC Radio

 * CBL-FM, a CBC Radio Two radio station in Toronto, Ontario
 * CBLA-FM in Toronto had the call sign CBL for much of the period when it was on the AM band (1937–99)

Sports leagues and associations

 * Canadian Baseball League (defunct)
 * Canadian Basketball League
 * Celebrity Badminton League, an India-based badminton league for celebrities
 * China Baseball League, the pre-eminent men's baseball league in China
 * Chinese Basketball League, former name of the National Basketball League, a men's semi-professional basketball minor league in China
 * Citrus Belt League, a division II high school sports league in Southern California.
 * Conference Basketball League, a former men's basketball minor league in New Zealand
 * Continental Baseball League
 * Continental Basketball League, a men's professional basketball minor league in the United States

Institutions

 * Carl Barks Library
 * Catholic Benevolent Legion
 * Central Bank of Liberia
 * Central Bank of Libya
 * Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
 * Chester Beatty Library
 * Conemaugh and Black Lick Railroad, a defunct railroad in Pennsylvania

Science and engineering

 * Cannabicyclol, a cannabinoid found in cannabis
 * CBL (gene) found in mammals
 * Calculator-Based Laboratory, a data-collection and logging system by Texas Instruments
 * Common Based Linux
 * CBL-Mariner, a free and open source cloud infrastructure operating system based on Linux and developed by Microsoft
 * Composite Blocking List
 * Computer-based learning
 * CBL / Computer Bureau Limited, parent company of Datacom Group
 * Convective Boundary Layer, the part of the atmosphere most directly affected by solar heating of the Earth's surface

Other uses

 * CBL & Associates Properties
 * CBL, the ticker symbol for CBL & Associates Properties
 * Cambuslang railway station, a UK railway station
 * Carbon Based Lifeforms, a Swedish electronic music duo
 * Cement bond log
 * Cerebellum
 * Challenge-based learning
 * Choice-based lettings (see Public Housing)
 * Clare Boothe Luce
 * Confidence-based learning
 * Controlled buoyant lift, an underwater diver-rescue technique used in recreational scuba diving
 * Cross-body lead, a dance move
 * Cross-border leasing

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The article states: "The lack of a substantial atmosphere for insulation results in temperature extremes and makes the Moon's surface conditions somewhat like a deep space vacuum." This is obviously wrong in attributing the function of insulation to atmosphere in this respect. What the moon lacks is a source of atmosphere for convective heat transfer, which in turn results in extreme temperature differences between light and shadow. While this is obvious to anyone with a little engineering education, obvious facts are not always admissible in an article based on common knowledge of the contributors familiar with the topic. Having a reference for a particular statement is best. I will tag the false statement as citation needed, and remove it by and by. - Fartherred (talk) 01:59, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Source [10] leads to an error page.
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10 TIMES WHAT??
In the future 3He may have a role as a fuel in thermonuclear fusion reactors.[106] If the technology for converting helium-3 to energy is developed, there is the potential that it would produce 10 times <<< WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN? 10 TIMES WHAT?? >>> more electricity than fossil fuels. It should require about 100 tonnes of helium-3 to produce the electricity that Earth uses in a year and there should be enough on the moon to provide that much for 10,000 years.[107] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.22.175.37 (talk) 18:24, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I clarified it. Gap9551 (talk) 22:19, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

In the future 3He may have a role as a fuel in thermonuclear fusion reactors. If the technology for converting helium-3 to energy is developed, there is the potential that it would produce 10 times more <<< MORE LIKE 10,000,000  >>>  electricity per unit mass than fossil fuels. It should require about 100 tonnes of helium-3 to produce the electricity that Earth uses in a year and there should be enough on the moon to provide that much for 10,000 years.

READ THIS:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density

But if you have a PhD is Astrophysics you already know this. So are you saying a NET of only 10 times more assuming there are huge efficiency losses in the fusion reactor? I look at it as a Star or Thermonuclear bomb vs a can of gasoline kind of comparison. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.22.175.37 (talk) 22:51, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

 * Yes, the ratio is about 10^7. Thanks for finding and fixing this error, I had missed it yesterday. The exponent must have dropped off in the source and someone copied the error here. I only reverted your last edit today because comments should be made here, not in the article, and I was checking the exact number. 10^7 is close enough. Gap9551 (talk) 23:01, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Sorry I put my comment in the article. I should have used the talk section instead. I have only made several edits to Wikipedia in my life. I am thankful for the dedicated people like yourself that make it the great resource for humanity that it is.

For a brief moment I was worried the laws of physics had changed while I wasn't looking and my car's gas tank was suddenly at risk of leveling the entire city. LOL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.22.175.37 (talk) 23:18, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Haha. No problem, feel free to make edits more often, or create an account. ;) Gap9551 (talk) 00:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Please don't do your own math. Please use numbers (and their meaning) from sources cited. I would also advised to avoid popscience numbers from popscience sources (such as helium-3 has 10 times more energy as fossil fuels in the cited source. Obviously it is an estimate. It is unsourced in the ref and we don't know what exactly, by whom and how was estimated.) Staszek Lem (talk) 00:45, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

To Staszek: I did not see if Gap9551 is a man or a woman in the profile so please forgive me if I wrongly assume male. Gap9551 has a PhD in Astrophysics! We can certainly trust him to "do his own math" We should be thankful someone of his science caliber donates his time to Wikipedia. As far as sources, I would trust Gap9551 himself to be a credible source on this topic. I found this article to be excellent and I am very glad it exists for the public as an education resource. The issue at hand was just a typo. Anyone could easily miss it.

The enormous energy density of fusion reactions is widely known. Indeed this is the central point of why helium-3 mining on the moon would be an absolute game changer for space colonization if two things happen: 1) Fusion reactors become practical. 2) Fusion reactors for any application work significantly better with Helium-3 than with Tritium. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.22.175.37 (talk) 02:22, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

 * Staszek Lem is right though. We can do routine calculations ourselves per WP:CALC but this goes further. If we could have shown the source made a typo using a simple calculation, maybe that would have been acceptable. But reading the source again, the critical sentence The energy stored in helium-3 is 10times the amount of energy found in fossil fuels. may actually mean that the total amount of He-3 on the Moon's surface stores 10 times the amount of energy as all fossil fuel reserves on Earth, so the whole interpretation about the dropped exponent is probably wrong. And the source is not of the highest standards either, as Staszek Lem pointed out. It's just written by someone. It may be an expert on the matter, or it may not, hard to tell. On Wikipedia we need reliable secondary sources and can not simply go by the word of an editor, nor by whatever unverified qualifications they claim in user profiles. That would become a mess quickly because no added content could be verified. What we can do now in the article here is find a reliable source that makes a statement about the ~10^7 number regarding He-3 fusion and fossil fuels, or some similar interesting comparison, and use that. Feel free to look for one. I agree it is widely known, and that should mean that such sources exist. :) Gap9551 (talk) 03:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * ~10^7 number per se is irrelevant to the subject. If anyone findss a ref to this number, then it must be added into the He-3 fusion article, not here. On the other hand, the total amount of available energy from any source found on the Moon would be relevant.

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"Even small pebbles and dust (micrometeoroids) have the potential to damage or destroy insufficiently protected structures." This seems to me to be a tautology. This would be relevant if it read something like "even small pebbles and dust have the potential to damage structures without massive protection" or whatever the facts are.--2607:FEA8:D5E0:A24:711F:924:B15F:7115 (talk) 01:08, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

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Would it be possible to include this brief article in this topic?

Colonization of the moon SSERVI Professor Darby Dyar (Astronomy and Geology) from Mount Holyoke College in Massachusetts (USA) and chair of Astronomy is part of the Solar System Exploration Research Virtual Institute (SSERVI) which used to be the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) Lunar Science Institute. https://sservi.nasa.gov/ SSERVI stands for a partnership between science, technology and space exploration which was formed to facilitate a greater understanding about the Moon and airless bodies. https://sservi.nasa.gov/articles/tag/airless-bodies/ The NASA Science Mission Directorate and Human Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate support SSERVI. The institute presently concentrates on scientific aspects of exploration relevant to the Moon, Near Earth Asteroids (NEAs) and the moons of Mars. However, SSERVI’s objectives can multiply depending on requirements of NASA. The institute’s research consists of multiple properties of the surface, interior, outermost region, near-space environments, and dynamics of said bodies. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2015DPS....4721601P https://sservi.nasa.gov/articles/colonizing-the-moon/ Dyar has written over 200 papers published in scientific journals. The NASA and NSF International, a product testing, inspection, and certification entity in Ann Arbor (Michigan State) have awarded Dyar around $4.1 million in different grants. https://www.mtholyoke.edu/people/m-darby-dyar

Thank you! LOBOSKYJOJO (talk) 03:48, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

 * No, I don't think so? JustinTime55 (talk) 21:14, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

 * Why not, but would that not fit better in Lunar outpost (NASA) --Kharon (talk) 03:36, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

"Inflatable module" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Right title for all forms of permanent human activity?
Hi there the article deals with human settlement as well as simple human missions to the Moon.

I though would argue that "colonization" is a very particular type of human presence, with a lot of historic baggage.

Since Mars for example has an own article about human mission to Mars, I would argue that the issue needs differentiation in a similar kind with different articles for different issues like "Moon based activity", "Lunar settling" and "Lunar mining". Or the article should be called something more general, like "human presence on the Moon" or/and "Moon based activity" (the former including remains from missions, and the latter handling the activity of human installations like e.g. possible observatories or refueling stations.

What do you think? Nsae Comp (talk) 13:30, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Thinking more about it "Mission...", "Access..." or "Accession of/to the Moon" would be an alternative, but is rather a particular chapter, like "Sattlement" (instead of "Colonization") of the article "Human presence on the Moon" (the latter being my preference for the article). Nsae Comp (talk) 05:48, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Well since there was already an article "Moonbase" redirected here, I took the state and seriously planned examples out from here and move them there, so now there is one more real and less hypothetical article similiar to "Human mission to Mars" and one that treats the very particular agenda of colonization. Last but not least because it is wrong to call any station (like on Earth) a colony. No one for example would consider Antarctica as colonized even though it has national claims and bases. Nsae Comp (talk) 14:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

While the term might not be a proper fit given Earth-bound definitions, the terminology of "moon colony" is the predominant one in both the scientific and speculative literature. A person looking for the topic of "people living on the moon" are likely to look up "moon colony" or "colonization of the moon" rather than whatever "better" term we could come up with. The job of the dictionary is not to judge but to reflect, for better or worse. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 17:44, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Moon settlement as problematic
The intro section includes this bit:

 * Beside its technological and financial challenges, colonization and particularly exploitation, like its realizations on Earth, has contemporarily been reflected on and criticized as inherently problematic colonialism

I marked this as dubious. Even if I'm charitable to the cited source and its relevance to the article, the source doesn't really say that moon settlement is problematic, but rather, the language of discussions of moon settlement (specifically the use of the term "colonize"). (The title of the article even explicitly says "the language of space exploration." It also later talks about how this language may impact power and superiority relationships between colonists and their mother countries or even Earth dwellers as a whole.) That opinion about the terminology of the topic may be valid and maybe even encyclopedic, but it's not a reflection of the topic itself, just the terms used regarding it. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 18:04, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

 * I agree. The term colonialism is associated with the forcible exploitation of native peoples by external nations wherein the external party institutes a social and economic hegemony over the native residents of the area in question. The moon, having no native people, cannot be said to be a subject of colonialism, even if colonies are developed on it. 73.222.226.146 (talk) 18:26, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

I agree that this should be removed. Generally speaking, the "some people think that..." argument has few places on Wikipedia, especially at the top of the page as it is here. It's an interesting thought experiment & no more, perhaps better suited for Quora or Reddit. Dlobr (talk) 02:16, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Everything but the moon
The criticism section never actually addresses lunar colonization. 2600:8801:710E:7E00:F99A:7C45:C42E:10E8 (talk) 07:05, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Keith Olbermann

Romantic partners
Should there not at least in the personal section be a mention of WNBC's Katy Tur with whom he lived for three years? Rustygecko (talk) 06:27, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

 * Yes. On her Wikipedia page there is mention of it. luckymustard (talk) 14:45, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * He's still talking about it. He devoted about ten minutes to it the other night because of Tur's recent controversy on Twitter (X) where she said Jill Biden wasn't Hunter's birth mother. Olbermann also talked about their relationship counseling sessions and the alleged domestic violence by Tur, when she allegedly attacked him after he was recovering from surgery. Viriditas (talk) 21:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Hoping for Trump Assassination
This article needs to be updated given Olberdork's latest over the top outrageous comments hoping for Trump's assassination. However, the article is locked and I cannot edit. Here is a reliable source: https://www.foxnews.com/media/keith-olbermann-suggests-hope-trumps-assassination-x-post. Please add to the article. Thanks. 2603:6080:BE00:CB20:88C6:FB58:AA17:8DF0 (talk) 04:29, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Clearly a joke, even if one in poor taste. Given the current status of Fox News, I would want to see more coverage before I would think it WP:DUE for inclusion here, but reasonable minds may certainly differ.  Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 04:38, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * There is more than one source other than fox reporting the fact he wants to kill trump.
 * here is from what looks like a local oulet.
 * https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/keith-olbermann-denies-calling-for-trumps-assassination-but-wants-trump-to-die-in-prison-msnbc-espn-donald-president-bloodbath-2024-election-presidential-white-house-x-twitter-supreme-court
 * The other is from Toronto sun
 * https://torontosun.com/entertainment/celebrity/former-msnbc-host-under-fire-after-endorsing-possible-trump-assassination 2601:188:CA80:7060:CBC:7DC5:F47B:6892 (talk) 04:31, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Fox News is such a weird, alternative reality. Nobody characterizes Olbermann as "far left".  Fox isn't a reliable source for good reason. Go listen to a recent Olbermann podcast episode.  There's nothing there that could be called "far left". Viriditas (talk) 00:22, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

 * It's unfortunate, but Olbermann does go over the top a bit too much. I personally was somewhat offended when he started talking about all the women he slept with.  I'm like dude, this is 2024, we don't do that anymore.  I think there's ways he could have said the same thing without coming off as a frat-bro and offending modern sensibilities.  The same thing could be said about Trump and his limited lifespan.  It's how you say something, not what you say.  Olbermann knows this, but I'm guessing he's a master at extemporaneous speech, and as such, this is the risk. He really needs an editor other than himself. Viriditas (talk) 00:16, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Recruitment of Rachel Madow
No mention here of his recruitment and encouragement of Rachel Maddow, which does appear on the wikipedia page for Rachel Maddow. Joelhgarner (talk) 01:19, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Yeah, that's a major omission. Viriditas (talk) 21:13, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Re: Ben Affleck
I'm convinced Ben Affleck's parody of Olbermann needs to be mentioned here. Two reasons: it's considered one of the best SNL sketches that Affleck ever performed, and it broke a lot of "rules" in terms of length and acting (more than eight minutes, no teleprompter, only cue cards); and there's apparently commentary from Olbermann about the sketch. Viriditas (talk) 21:16, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Screenwriter?
Has Olbermann written any screenplays? He comes of as a natural storyteller who would do well in this field. My question is, 1) are there any sources that explain why he hasn't gone in this direction? Or has he? Viriditas (talk) 20:49, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

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The Girl from U.N.C.L.E.

The Girl from U.N.C.L.E. is an American spy fiction TV series starring Stefanie Powers that aired on NBC for one season from September 13, 1966, to April 11, 1967. The series was a spin-off from The Man from U.N.C.L.E. and used the same theme music composed by Jerry Goldsmith, in a different arrangement by Dave Grusin. The Girl from U.N.C.L.E. stars Powers as American U.N.C.L.E. agent April Dancer and Noel Harrison as her British partner, Mark Slate. Leo G. Carroll plays their superior, Alexander Waverly.

Despite attempts at cross-promotion with its parent series, the show failed to build an audience and lasted only one season. Its failure was considered a contributing factor in Man's mid-season cancellation in early 1968.

Cast

 * Stefanie Powers as April Dancer
 * Noel Harrison as Mark Slate
 * Leo G. Carroll as Alexander Waverly; chief of U.N.C.L.E.
 * Randy Kirby as Agent Randy Kovacs

Notable guest stars

 * Ed Asner
 * Joan Blondell
 * Tom Bosley
 * John Carradine
 * Jack Cassidy
 * Ellen Corby
 * Wally Cox
 * Yvonne De Carlo
 * Dom DeLuise
 * John Erwin
 * Bernard Fox
 * Stan Freberg
 * Boris Karloff
 * Fernando Lamas
 * Peggy Lee
 * Raymond Massey
 * Luciana Paluzzi
 * Lyn Peters
 * Pernell Roberts
 * Ruth Roman
 * Gena Rowlands
 * Ann Sothern
 * Olan Soule
 * Olive Sturgess
 * Leslie Uggams
 * Robert Vaughn
 * Carol Wayne
 * Michael Wilding

Critical response
Contemporary reviews of The Girl From Uncle were mostly negative, with much of the critics' comments centered upon the lead actors, particularly Powers. A review in The Baltimore Sun noted that Powers is "prettier and shapelier than Ilya Kuryakin, of course, but she's not much of an actress and she's ill-suited to the role," but that "Harrison tends to steal scenes from Miss Powers, and [makes] an agreeable impression" A review in Newsday reported that "Miss Powers, for all of her sweater appeal, is a trifle limited." Kay Gardella of the New York Daily News opined that Powers "display[ed] less than undergraduate skill in the fine art of spying", with the performance of co-star Harrison being "the understatement of the new season. One suspected he was given a dose of Apathy." The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette commented that "Powers [is] somewhat of a timid UNCLE agent," that Harrison "gave evidence of stealing most of the credits," and that "the series is [...] only for UNCLE fans."

Backdoor pilot (1966)
The backdoor pilot, titled "The Moonglow Affair", originally aired as 52nd episode (S02E23) of The Man from U.N.C.L.E. on February 25, 1966.

Syndication
Beginning in 1968, reruns of all 29 episodes of The Girl from U.N.C.L.E., including 99 of 105 of its parent series, The Man from U.N.C.L.E., were combined into a 128-episode syndication package in the United States. Years later, a few more episodes were added to the package, rounding it out to 132.

Home media
On August 23, 2011, Warner Bros. released the complete series in two parts on DVD in Region 1 via their Warner Archive Collection. The two 4-disc collections contain all 29 episodes of the series. These are Manufacture-on-Demand (MOD) releases, available exclusively through Warner's online store and only in the United States.

Soundtrack
Jerry Goldsmith's theme for The Man from U.N.C.L.E. was adapted for the series by Dave Grusin in an energetic variation. Of the 29 episodes, eight had complete original scores and six were partial scores, with the rest being tracked by the previously written material.

Grusin wrote four complete scores ("The Dog-Gone Affair", "The Mother Muffin Affair", "The Mata Hari Affair" and "The Furnace Flats Affair"), Richard Shores — who would be the principal composer for The Man from U.N.C.L.E the following season — wrote three ("The Montori Device Affair," "The Prisoner of Zalamar Affair" and "The Danish Blue Affair") and Jack Marshall composed his only score for either U.N.C.L.E. series with "The Horns-of-the-Dilemma Affair". Jeff Alexander, also writing his only U.N.C.L.E. music, provided a partial score for "The Garden of Evil Affair", sharing "Music Score by" credit with Grusin and Shores, the latter two sharing the credit on all the other episodes, tracked and partial score alike. The opening and closing title themes and suites from the episodes "The Dog-Gone Affair", "The Prisoner of Zalamar Affair", "The Mother Muffin Affair", "The Mata Hari Affair", "The Montori Device Affair" and "The Horns-of-the-Dilemma Affair" are included on the third FSM album of music from The Man from U.N.C.L.E.

Original novels
The Girl from U.N.C.L.E. was featured in five original novels, only two of which were published in the United States:
 * The Birds of a Feather Affair by Michael Avallone
 * The Blazing Affair by Michael Avallone
 * The Global Globules Affair – Simon Latter (published in United Kingdom, and in France as L'affaire des Globules)
 * The Golden Boats of Taradata Affair – Simon Latter (published in United Kingdom only)
 * The Cornish Pixie Affair – Peter Leslie (published in United Kingdom only)

Unlike the series, the novels were quite serious, with the plot of The Birds of a Feather Affair ending in tragedy for April when the "innocent" character usually featured in the TV show dies, despite what April does to stop the villains. In addition, the prohibition on April using deadly force on the TV series (described earlier) did not apply to the novels.

A The Girl from U.N.C.L.E. Annual was published for three issues in the UK, which included novellas not published elsewhere. Gold Key Comics also published a short-lived, five-issue comic book.

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Talk:Televangelists

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Talk:Spic

 * Previous deletion debate

spic = hispanic
This is ridiculous uncited claim that needs to be deleted. The hispanic community does not use the term spic as black people use the term "nigga." Unless you can cite it, keep it deleted.

Someone deleted it. I just wanted to say thank you.
 * How tha fuk wud u no!? Dis aint ridiculous its true me n my chicos alwaiz call each otha spic n wen we c sum1 hu we tink might b a spic we say dat spic! Dont go actin lke u no latinos u probz sum bolillo newaiz so callate! —Preceding unsigned comment added by LocoLatino (talk • contribs) 16:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

now the reclaim of the racial slur nigger is different than the term spic, being a spic can be of any race its considered more an ethnic slur like the ethnic slur for a polish person is polack not a racial slur but ethnic nigger is a racist term you can t compare the 2--Wikiscribe (talk) 16:22, 11 July 2008 (UTC) Wetbacks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.23.49.170 (talk) 05:25, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

 * @ Wikiscribe - "Spic" and "Pollack" are actually the same as "Nigger". 195.69.81.75 (talk) 15:00, 22 January 2015 (UTC

United Kingdom
The line of argument to keep this claim is ridiculous. It has already been seen in this page that the term is of American origin. To say that just because some people in the UK use it, you might as well throw in China, Poland and whatever random country comes to mind where some subculture may have adopted it. I suggest at the least change it to "some have adopted this term in the UK."

I'm doubtful that it's ever been significant in the UK because we don't have a particularly visible spanish population at all (lots of Australians for some reason, but few spanish). The only thing I could imagine is an american tourist using it. 81.187.26.106 (talk) 14:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Etymology
Isn't spic simply a contraction of (hi)sp(an)ic? —optikos 20:05, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope. That's what I thought too before I wrote the article.--Primetime 20:15, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I believe this information should be included in the article. I read the entire article with this idea in mind and would add it now if a my favorite beverage hadn't altered my thinking.

My grandfather always tells me how Spick comes from spanish mick. Because when the Latino population really started to flood into american it almost seemed like a new wave of pour immigrants who'd do nearly anything for cheap. Mick at the time was a derogatory term for irish people. Who were the first wave. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.176.21 (talk) 07:20, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

 * "No speaka de English"?! What a ridiculous etymology. FilipeS (talk) 16:38, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

A derivative of "Spanish-speaking"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.149.184.53 (talk) 11:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I took out the following passage as the information was not in the references cited: "People believe "Spic" is a derogatory term, but it was never meant to be offensive at all. When police officers would pull over Hispanic or Latino people they would have no idea of what they were saying. So the police would write down "Spanish Person In Custody" which stands for Spic. For example police would say, "We got a Spic", and the term has been used ever since." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.76.224.78 (talk) 02:19, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

First two sentences
"Spic, also spelled spik, spick, or spig, is an ethnic slur used in the U.S. for a Spanish American. It can also mean anyone of vaguely Spanish extraction, such as a Latin American, Mexican, Puerto Rican, or Filipino; or any foreigner at all; or even anyone of apparently foreign ancestry."

This sentence gives three definitions for spic: (1) a Spanish person, (2) people of "vaguely Spanish extraction" (i.e., mestizo, criollo, etc.), and (3) any foreigner at all. Changing the "Spanish American" phrase to "Hispanic/Mestizo" would be repetitive, as "Hispanic/Mestizo" is already named in the second sentence. I wouldn't mind re-ordering the senses to put the primary meaning first, or clarifying that it mainly means Mestizo Hispanics, though.--Primetime 12:14, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the format is wrong...but the implications of "Spic" in public discourse has always been tied directly to "Hispanic/Mestizo". IP Address 12:18, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

For instance; nobody would mistake "Antonio Banderas"--if he immigrated to America--as a "Spic". IP Address 12:20, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree. The Spanish meaning is a bit out of date. I'm going to note this in the article. Let me know if it looks OK.--Primetime 12:23, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I just put it in a recognisable context, as laypersons predominantly understand it. IP Address 12:35, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I have not heard in any source that people call others who imitate Hispanic people "spics". Also, the new intro doesn't name the three senses I described earlier. It only names one, really. I think that changing "Hispanic descent" to "Hispanic culture" and linking Hispanic and Mestizo is OK, though.--Primetime 12:43, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Well when I lived in the suburbs, Whites from the nearby cities who immersed themselves in the "Hispanic lifestyle" were referred to as "Spics"...they claimed it was their culture, regardless of not being Mestizo. The other senses you listed are not valid in actual usage, but are theoretical. IP Address 12:49, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I suppose that we could add that sense to the intro. The other senses, though, aren't theoretical, just rarer. In any case, I tend to follow standard dictionary practice in laying out meanings historically, so the reader can understand the evolution of the word. They can also quickly see the core meaning that gave rise to the derived senses.--Primetime 12:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

This is not Wiktionary. If you watch day time talk shows and even Jerry Springer, you'll know what it is about. These things are plainly obvious in urban communities, throughout the United States. IP Address 12:55, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * In any case, I kept most of your changes, compromising to a great degree. Also, another reason to keep the older and rarer meanings is because it helps people understand history and older texts. It also helps them understand dialectal speech. Also, know that I watched Jerry Springer occasionally when I was a teenager and I live in the United States, so I'm not too unfamiliar with what you're saying.--Primetime 12:58, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure nobody would have objections to a full history of the word, in the Wiktionary. Remember, this is an encyclopedia. See Wikipedia is not a dictionary. IP Address 13:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * The word encyclopedia comes from the Greek words enkyklios paideia, meaning "general education," or "well-rounded education." Merriam-Webster's Third New International Dictionary, Unabridged defines an encyclopedia as "a work that treats comprehensively all the various branches of knowledge and that is usually composed of individual articles arranged alphabetically". In short, the difference between a dictionary and an encyclopedia is that a dictionary only deals with vocabulary, while an encyclopedia deals with everything. Thus, including word history actually makes it more encyclopedic, in my opinion.--Primetime 13:06, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

The course you wish to seek, is not the Wikipedia form. Just examine the vast majority of Wikipedia's articles, which will show you that most do not follow your preference. Please do not attempt to change the Wikipedian standard by this manner. IP Address 13:08, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * No. It is Wikipedia form. (See Nigger.) The Wikipedia is not a dictionary deals with excluding short definitions, not treatises on all aspects of a word.--Primetime 13:15, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Make a segment then. Don't dominate the article with technical details about linguistics. Follow form and standard. Even use that article you just mentioned as a model for getting it right. Manual of Style Also, please don't drown the article with a pedantic focus. It's hard to read for casual readers. IP Address 13:18, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Note also that I kept your unecessary See also links at the bottom in addition to the rewording of the intro. It's all in the spirit of the wiki (i.e., compromise). Even though I created this article, I'm willing to keep most of your changes. However, your most recent revision destroys a lot of helpful information, so I can't allow it in its present form. As for "Nigger", that article is much longer than this. We don't need seperate sections for something that is only one sentence long!--Primetime 13:38, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * There. I added "(cf. wigger)" to the intro. I think that that's all you're going to get from me, though.--Primetime 14:12, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

This isn't your article. You must come to a community consensus when there is any disagreement. There should be a section for usage in common discourse and another for etymological history. IP Address 22:21, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * By way of beginning to reach consensus, I'd like to comment on the preceding debate: The phrase "in public discourse" implies oral sources unless backed up by some publication. Secondly, I have never heard or read the word "spic" to mean someone who adopts hispanic culture, and I'd need a written source to believe it. Thirdly, "dominat[ing] the article with technical details about linguistics" makes it more encyclopedic, not less so. "Laypersons" be damned. Basically, I stand beside Primetime's version and highly respect his/her willingness to compromise in this debate.--Rockero 07:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

You stand by him to oppose me. How quaint. 420 (cannabis culture) makes me impressed. How long have you smoked pot? Ever care how it warps your mind? Nope, you can't do that when you're hooked on self-delusional insolence. IP Address 07:45, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I know this is from 2006, but it's embarrassing how ignorant these people were haha. Antonio Banderas would be considered a spic in the USA. Antonio Banderas does not even look white. I have seen Latin Americans that look way whiter than Antonio Banderas called a spic because of their Spanish last name let alone Antonio Banderas. Most people cannot tell a mestizo from looks. I have heard many people mistake Carlos Slim for mestizo, and he's Lebanese. I heard people refer to Vicente Fox, the former president of mexico as a spic, and he's not mestizo. His mother was an immigrant from Basque country Spain and his father's parents were German immigrants lol. Similarly, I have heard Fidel Castro being referred to as a spic, and he's of Spaniard descent on both of his parents side: Not a mestizo. I have heard people refer to Penelope Cruz as spic,and she's also not mestizo. Therefore, spic has nothing to do with mestizo. Anybody can be called a spic in the USA. All you have to be is Spanish or born in some Spanish speaking country in Latin America regardless of your ethnic background. Meaning a person born in Mexico of German descent can be considered a spic in the USA.Savedcheese (talk) 00:25, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

3 revert rule warning
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 23:19, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Protected
Rather than blocking editors for WP:3RR, I have protected the article. Please discuss the edits and reach consensus on how to proceed. Once you feel ready to resume editing, please pace a request for unprotection at WP:RFPP. Have a nice weekend. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 23:25, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

 * The article should not stay protected, but I don't see any discussion between editors. Is there still a dispute? Are editors content with the current version? -Will Beback 11:04, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I don't know what more to say than I already have. IP Address 08:42, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

UK
I have never heard this term used in the UK... I suggest changing the start of this article

Australia
Never heard of anyone bright being called a 'spic' in Australia, as such I'm deleting the uncited reference.

Not used in UK
Never have i ever heard this word used here in britain and i've lived here my whole life. I have deleted the uncited claim.

Brit928293 19:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

 * What you have haven't heard isn't relevant (and "my whole life" is meaningless unless we know how old you are). --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 22:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

 * The original, sourced version of the article did not mention the U.K. You're English. If you've heard it used in the U.K., feel free to revert me. The quotes in the OED are all from the U.S., though.--Dungeon Keeper 22:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

My edit asked for a citation insted of merely removing the claim. In fact I have heard the term, very occasionally, though it might well have been American influence. Even if I hadn't, the U.K. has many regions, with many variants of slang, and I'm not so arrogant as to suppose that because I haven't heard a term in my corner (or those places with which I'm familiar), it's therefore not used anywhere. I've often found that southerners have never heard a word from my local dialect, familiar to me as a child, and occasioanlly even express disbelief and amusement.

If no citation is forthcoming within, say, a week, then I'll remove the claim. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 23:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It's interesting that this debate began now, as yesterday The Sun (a newspaper I detest in almost every respect) decided to run this on its front page. It contains usage of the word "spic", which I previously also had thought to be largely a US thing. I don't really want to add this to the article, in case it is not sufficient. And in any respect, I'm awful at doing proper citations anyway. --Dreaded Walrus 08:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Have you got a proper link for that? The only reference that comes up on a site search is this and it appears to be just a headline (says 'click on the image' but there is no image).  From the headline it looks like it was an article specifically about racial slurs, and therefore it's as likely they picked up the word from wikipedia (or at least google) than it reflecting any common usage, as they had an article to write and the Sun isn't exactly known for verifying its sources. 81.187.26.106 (talk) 14:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I stand corrected. I did look it up in Oxford's slang dictionary, though, and it said it was a U.S. term, so I think that we should qualify the statement with "occasionally." I wouldn't be surpised that The Sun did that, though. They're actually the ones who coined the term Argie in the Falklands War.--Dungeon Keeper 22:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I suspect, though sadly cant' cite a reliable source for this (yet), that the term came over with American troops during WWII. My paternal grandfather had a splendid collection of Giles annuals from the very early fifties through to the 1970s. They were an absolute mine of social observation and a fascinating potted history of how Middle England changed after the war. I recall several cartoons making mention of Spics, and it was a term my maternal grandfather (an unreconstructued 1940s East End spiv) was fond of using as well. It fell rapidly out of favor during the 1960s and I doubt its used much, if at all these, days. Gwernol 22:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I have occasionally heard the term used by teenagers in this country, but it is very rare, and possibly influenced by the proliferation of US media. I would be all for the opening saying "occasionally". --Dreaded Walrus 07:02, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Different meaning of 'spic'
I grew up in Liverpool, UK, and the word 'spic' was always used to refer to someone with Down's Syndrome, or any other sort of cerebral palsy, essentially the same as 'spaz'. Has anyone else heard it used in this context? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.234.4.10 (talk) 14:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

Sounds like a corruption of 'spac'. The problem with slang is it means different things to different people, even in the same country. IMO the wikipedia article should concentrate on the particular US meaning of it, otherise it's going to get extremely bloated. 81.187.26.106 (talk) 14:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Spic and Span
All of the sources listed in this article relate to the etymology of Spic, but one section mentions Spic and Span as being a term for a mixed race couple(Puerto Rican/African). I can't find anything in the sources mentioning this, so I flagged that section as needing a citation. I'll check back in a week or so and if I see no sourcing for that particular statement, I'll remove it. --68.229.46.41 05:58, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The last comment by 68.229.46.41 was posted by me, Visual77, but I often forget to log in. --Visual77 06:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's from the Casell Dictionary of Slang. It was at the bottom, but wasn't mentioned directly in the text. So, I made it into an inline citation.--Dungeon Keeper 06:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Surely this section should say that the cleaning product presumably takes its name from the phrase "spick and span" (usually spelled with a k) which the OED dates back to 1665, meaning "Particularly neat, trim, or smart", (not to mention that "spick and span" itself is a shortening of a "spick and span new" that dates back to the late 1500s, etc). It currently sounds like someone randomly named a cleaning product "slur and word", then this phrase itself became a slur with a more narrow meaning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.3.65.154 (talk) 21:57, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

SPIC as an acronym
When I was in junior high, I was in a special school program where we had a college-level curriculum. One of the most astonishing things I came across while learning a more “honest” version of United States history was that the term “spic” was used as an acronym. The acronym was used in signage and in print in order to save on word space and print costs. In the U.S. History textbook, we saw images of signs soliciting for manual labor – but stated “SPIC’s need not apply”. In this particular instance, SPIC (capitalized) was representative of Spanish, Portuguese, Irish, and Colored. --Mespinola 15:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

 * I read it was an ancronym for Spanish Indian and Colored, ie the people of Puerto Rico —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paleocon (talk • contribs) 19:37, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Alleged acronyms are frequent in folk etymology. FilipeS (talk) 16:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Protection
Temporarily protected after a dispute ending with a user saying he would edit the page. Bovester 20:44, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Hispanics in the United States - requested move
Hello everyone. There is at present a discussion going on at Hispanics in the United States, due to the request that the page be moved to Hispanic Americans. Would you like to comment please? Thank you. The Ogre 18:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Use of Derogatory Term "Spic"
I am removing the connection of the derogatory term “spic” to Italians or Italian Americans. The source cited is the Urban Dictionary. However, if one goes to that source, there is no suggestion that this ethnic slur is used in common parlance to mean Italian or Italian American. However, even if this was not true, I think it is ludicrous to suggest that the Urban Dictionary is a legitimate source for an encyclopedic article. Since “spic” does not apply to Italians or Italian Americans, all references to Italian or Italian American Wikipedia articles or derogatory terms have been deleted, since they are not relevant to this article. Paraloco needs to justify his wish to broaden the term “spic” to Italians or Italian Americans in Talk. Philantonia (talk) 21:03, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I am going to add this back in, as Wentworth and Flexner, in their earlier "Dictionary of American Slang," (and yes, it's that Flexner who was the second author), do define "spiggoty" as a contraction of "spaghetti", and note it as a related slur for Italian Americans and Italians, along with "dago". 73.115.53.151 (talk) 00:38, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

I've added this back in, along with an explanation that *historically* the word did once mean Italian Americans and Italians. Since the etymology is an important part of any word definition, it should stay, as such. 73.115.53.151 (talk) 01:10, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

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Johann Ernst Eberlin

Johann Ernst Eberlin (27 March 1702 – 19 June 1762) was a German composer and organist whose works bridge the baroque and classical eras. He was a composer of church organ and choral music. Marpurg claims he wrote as much and as rapidly as Alessandro Scarlatti and Georg Philipp Telemann, a claim also repeated by Leopold Mozart - though Eberlin did not live nearly as long as either of those two composers.

Biography
Eberlin's first musical training began in 1712 at the Jesuit Gymnasium of St. Salvator in Augsburg. His teachers there were Georg Egger and Balthasar Siberer, who taught him how to play the organ. He began his university education in 1721 at the Benedictine University in Salzburg where he studied law, but from 1723 turned to music.

His first breakthrough was in 1727 when he became the organist for Count Leopold von Firmian (then Archbishop of Salzburg). He reached the peak of his career when he was the organist for Archbishop Andreas Jakob von Dietrichstein. By 1749 he held the posts of Hof- und Domkapellmeister (Court and Cathedral chapel master) simultaneously, an achievement which his successors Michael Haydn, Leopold Mozart, and Mozart himself were not to match. Despite Leopold Mozart's great opinion of Eberlin, and having sent his son some of Eberlin's best-known works, his keyboard pieces, the young Mozart later tired of them, writing in a letter of 20 April 1782 that Eberlin's works were "far too trivial to deserve a place beside Handel and Bach."

Eberlin composed industriously and played at church concerts. After his death, though, his strict choral pieces in the stile antico faded from popularity and only his keyboard works were (to a limited extent) remembered.

His contemporaries included Anton Cajetan Adlgasser.

Works, editions, recordings
Eberlin composed toccatas and fugues, masses including the Missa secundi toni, cantatas, a Requiem, psalm settings and operas. He composed oratorios in German on librettos by Metastasio:
 * Giuseppe riconosciuto (1750s)
 * La passione di Gesù Cristo (The Passion of Jesus Christ, Salzburg 1755)
 * Sant’Elena al Calvario (St. Helena on the Calvary, Salzburg, probably between 1753 and 1763).

Editions
 * Johann Ernst Eberlin: Te Deum, Dixit Dominus, and Magnificat Reinhard G Pauly. 1971

Recordings
 * Sacred Choral Music - Rodolfus Choir, conducted by Ralph Allwood. ASV 2000.
 * The 9 Toccatas & Fugues - David Titterington. ASV 1998.
 * Salzburger Kirchenmusik - La Banda, Camerata Vocale Günzburg, conducted by Jurgen Rettenmaier. Carus

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Talk:Squanto

Possible lack of etiquette in my addition
I have added a long paragraph to announce the discovery of four original manuscripts regarding Squanto's arrival in Spain. Due to my lack of Wikipedia skills, the source article is shown twice, once in the reference section and one in secondary sources, because I have not found a way to link directly from the body of the article to the secondary sources, where I believe the original article needs to appear, because it contains the location of the primary sources. Which by the way are the only truly primary sources found to date. I would very much appreciate if someone could teach me how to avoid this lack of etiquette.

PS: In case anyone is interested, I am working with Ms. Ruiz on a second English language article explaining the findings in full detail, which I will contribute in due course. AGA2024 (talk) 20:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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Super Proton Synchrotron

The Super Proton Synchrotron (SPS) is a particle accelerator of the synchrotron type at CERN. It is housed in a circular tunnel, 6.9 km in circumference, straddling the border of France and Switzerland near Geneva, Switzerland.

History
The SPS was designed by a team led by John Adams, director-general of what was then known as Laboratory II. Originally specified as a 300 GeV accelerator, the SPS was actually built to be capable of 400 GeV, an operating energy it achieved on the official commissioning date of 17 June 1976. However, by that time, this energy had been exceeded by Fermilab, which reached an energy of 500 GeV on 14 May of that year.

The SPS has been used to accelerate protons and antiprotons, electrons and positrons (for use as the injector for the Large Electron–Positron Collider (LEP) ), and heavy ions.

From 1981 to 1991, the SPS operated as a hadron (more precisely, proton–antiproton) collider (as such it was called Sp$\overline{p}$S), when its beams provided the data for the UA1 and UA2 experiments, which resulted in the discovery of the W and Z bosons. These discoveries and a new technique for cooling particles led to a Nobel Prize for Carlo Rubbia and Simon van der Meer in 1984.

From 2006 to 2012, the SPS was used by the CNGS experiment to produce a neutrino stream to be detected at the Gran Sasso laboratory in Italy, 730 km from CERN.

Current operations
The SPS is now used as the final injector for high-intensity proton beams for the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), which began preliminary operation on 10 September 2008, for which it accelerates protons from 26 GeV to 450 GeV. The LHC itself then accelerates them to several teraelectronvolts (TeV).

Operation as injector still allows continuation of the ongoing fixed-target research program, where the SPS is used to provide 400 GeV proton beams for a number of active fixed-target experiments, notably COMPASS, NA61/SHINE and NA62.

The SPS has served, and continues to be used as a test bench for new concepts in accelerator physics. In 1999 it served as an observatory for the electron cloud phenomenon. In 2003, SPS was the first machine where the Hamiltonian resonance driving terms were directly measured. And in 2004, experiments to cancel the detrimental effects of beam encounters (like those in the LHC) were carried out.

The SPS RF cavities operate at a center frequency of 200.2 MHz.

Major discoveries
Major scientific discoveries made by experiments that operated at the SPS include the following.

 * 1983: The discovery of W and Z bosons in the UA1 and UA2 experiments. The 1984 Nobel Prize in physics was awarded to Carlo Rubbia and Simon van der Meer for the developments that led to this discovery.
 * 1999: The discovery of direct CP violation by the NA48 experiment.

Upgrade for high luminosity LHC
The Large Hadron Collider will require an upgrade to considerably increase its luminosity during the 2020s. This would require upgrades to the entire linac/pre-injector/injector chain, including the SPS.

As part of this, the SPS will need to be able to handle a much higher intensity beam. One improvement considered in the past was increasing the extraction energy to 1 TeV. However, the extraction energy will be kept at 450 GeV while other systems are upgraded. The acceleration system will be modified to handle the higher voltages needed to accelerate a higher intensity beam. The beam dumping system will also be upgraded so it can accept a higher intensity beam without sustaining significant damage.

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Ben Heppner

Thomas Bernard Heppner (born January 14, 1956) is a renowned Canadian tenor and broadcaster, now retired from singing, who specialized in opera and other classical works for voice.

Early life
Heppner, of Mennonite descent, was born in Murrayville, British Columbia, and lived in Dawson Creek, British Columbia.

He began his musical studies at the University of British Columbia and first attracted national attention when he won the CBC Talent Festival in 1979. He later studied opera at University of Toronto.

Career
Heppner won the Metropolitan Opera Auditions in 1988 which launched his career in major productions world wide.

He is associated with the Wagnerian repertoire, but he performed a range of operas from the German, French and Italian canons.

Heppner performed frequently with opera companies in the United States (including the New York Metropolitan Opera) and Europe, and concert appearances with symphony orchestras.

Heppner achieved renown with the 1993 recording of Wagner's Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg conducted by Wolfgang Sawallisch and the Bavarian State Orchestra.

He has appeared in the DVD recordings of the Met's productions of Beethoven's Fidelio, Wagner's Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg, and Wagner's Tristan und Isolde, three of his signature roles.

He first performed Tristan with the Seattle Opera in 1998, and in November 1998 with the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Claudio Abbado. Heppner also performed and recorded Wagner's "Gotterdammerung" with the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Sir Simon Rattle.

He specialized in operatic roles including the title part in Lohengrin, the title part in Otello, and Berlioz's Aeneas. Heppner recorded Wagner's Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg in 1995 with Sir Georg Solti and the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. He performed Beethoven's "Fidelio" at the Salzburg Festival with Solti in 1996, which would be the conductor's final operatic performances, and recorded the work that same year with Sir Colin Davis conducting. Also with Sir Colin Davis, Heppner recorded the role of Aeneas in Berlioz' "Les Troyens".

Heppner has recorded on multiple labels, participating in complete operas and solo albums of arias and songs. He was signed to an exclusive contract with Deutsche Grammophon (DG). His first solo recording for DG, made in 2001, was Airs Français. It won a Juno Award.

Honours
Heppner has received Honorary Doctorates from Queen's University (2006), McMaster Divinity College (2005), York University (2003), Memorial University of Newfoundland (2003), University of Toronto (2002), McGill University (2002), and University of British Columbia (1997).

Heppner was awarded the National Arts Centre Award, a companion award of the Governor General's Performing Arts Awards in 1995. He was made a Member of the Order of Canada in 1999, was promoted to Officer in 2002 and Companion in 2008. He performed at closing ceremonies of two Winter Olympic Games. In Turin in 2006, he sang the Canadian national anthem. Four years later, in Vancouver, he sang the Olympic Hymn. Both times, he mixed English and French. In June 2016, Heppner was made a laureate of the Governor General's Performing Arts Awards, with a Lifetime Achievement Award in Classical Music.

Retirement
Heppner announced his retirement from singing in April 2014. Heppner felt unable to be a "part-time singer", feeling that "No matter how often you sing, if you're going to sing at a good level, a quality level, you've got to keep it up all the time. And I was finding that to be a little bit difficult. So that, plus the fact that I've been experiencing a little bit of unreliability in my voice – and that causes some anxieties – I decided it was time".

Post-retirement, Heppner accepted a brief role in a musical production of Titanic at the Princess of Wales Theatre in Toronto in May 2015.

Heppner became a broadcaster on Canadian radio, hosting Saturday Afternoon at the Opera and Backstage with Ben Heppner on CBC Radio. He retired from broadcasting in September 2021.

Heppner plans to continue hosting master classes and coaching singers for roles, and appearing on voice competition juries. The Ben Heppner Vocal Music Academy, a public school in Scarborough, named after Heppner, opened in 2012.

Opera

 * 1992: Weber: Oberon (Hüon von Bordeaux). Gürzenich Orchestra Cologne, James Conlon. EMI.
 * 1993: Puccini: Turandot (Calaf). Münchner Rundfunkorchester, Roberto Abbado. RCA.
 * 1994: Wagner: Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg (Walther von Stolzing). Bavarian State Orchestra, Wolfgang Sawallisch. EMI.
 * 1995: Massenet: Hérodiade (Jean). Orchestre du Capitole de Toulouse, Michel Plasson. EMI.
 * 1995: Wagner: Lohengrin (Lohengrin). Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis. RCA.
 * 1996: Beethoven: Fidelio (Florestan). Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis. RCA.
 * 1997: Wagner: Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg (Walther von Stolzing). Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Sir Georg Solti. Decca.
 * 1997: Wagner: The Flying Dutchman (Erik). Metropolitan Opera Orchestra, James Levine. Sony.
 * 1997: Strauss: Die Frau ohne Schatten (the Emperor). Staatskapelle Dresden, Giuseppe Sinopoli. Teldec.
 * 1998: Wagner Lohengrin (Lohengrin) Metropolitan Opera Orchestra, James Levine
 * 1998: Dvořák: Rusalka (Prince). Czech Philharmonic, Sir Charles Mackerras. Decca.
 * 2001: Berlioz: Les Troyens (Énée). London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis. LSO Live.
 * 2001: Strauss: Ariadne auf Naxos (Tenor/Bacchus). Staatskapelle Dresden, Giuseppe Sinopoli. Deutsche Grammophon.

Recital

 * 1995: Ben Heppner Sings Richard Strauss. Toronto Symphony Orchestra, Andrew Davis (conductor). CBC.
 * 1995: Great Tenor Arias. Münchner Rundfunkorchester, Roberto Abbado. RCA.
 * 1998: German Romantic Opera. North German Radio Symphony Orchestra, Donald Runnicles. RCA.
 * 1998: Dedication. Craig Rutenberg. RCA.
 * 1999: My Secret Heart. London Philharmonic Orchestra, Jonathan Tunick. RCA.
 * 2001: Airs Français. London Symphony Orchestra, Myung-Whun Chung. Deutsche Grammophon
 * 2003: Ideale: Songs of Paolo Tosti. Members of the London Symphony Orchestra. Deutsche Grammophon.
 * 2006: Heppner/Wagner: Excerpts from "The Ring of the Nibelung". Staatskapelle Dresden, Peter Schneider. Deutsche Grammophon.

Others

 * 1984: Bach: Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme, BWV 140. CBC Vancouver Orchestra, Wayne Riddell. CBC.
 * 1994: Mahler: Das Lied von der Erde. Cologne Radio Symphony Orchestra, Gary Bertini. EMI
 * 1995: Various: Along the Road to Bethlehem. Members of the Toronto Symphony Orchestra, Jean Ashworth Bartle.
 * 1996: Beethoven: Symphony No. 9. Berlin Philharmonic, Claudio Abbado. Sony.
 * 1997: Mahler: Symphony No. 8. Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis. RCA.
 * 2000: Mahler: Das Lied von der Erde. Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra, Lorin Maazel. RCA.
 * 2001: Mahler: Symphony No. 8. Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Riccardo Chailly. Decca.
 * 2001: Somers: Songs from the Heart of Somers. John Hess. Centrediscs.
 * 2004: Arnold Schönberg: Gurre-Lieder. Munich Philharmonic, James Levine. Oehms Classics.
 * 2004: Wagner: Siegfried, 3rd act. Munich Philharmonic, James Levine. Oehms Classics.

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Bedir Khan Beg

Bedir Khan Beg (Kurmanji: Bedirxan Beg, Bedirhan Bey; 1803–1869) was the last Kurdish Mîr and mütesellim of the Emirate of Botan.

Hereditary head of the house of Rozhaki whose seat was the ancient Bitlis Castle and descended from Sharafkhan Bidlisi, Bedir Khan was born in Cizre (now in Turkey). He became the Mir of the Emirate of Botan in 1821 and ruled until 1847. The Bedir Khans also claimed descent from Muhammad's general Khalid ibn al-Walid.

Early life
He was born to Abdullah Bey, and became the ruler of Botan after his cousin Seyfeddin (who succeeded Abdullah Bey after his death), wasn't able to calm down the region and his brother Said Bey was too religious and left the leadership to Bedir Khan. During his first term as Mir, he soon established a regional control strong enough, that allowed him to deny his support to the Ottoman Sultan during the Russo-Turkish War between 1828 and 1829. He managed to develop the war-torn districts under his control and within years, the population in the area in his control grew significantly. His success was such, that European diplomats from the region reported to their governments about Bedir Khans ability to provide his followers with a good economic standard and security, comparing with other neighboring regions. Bedir Khan was proud of the security he brought to the region, that under his leadership, banditry had disappeared and caravans were able to cross his territory in safety. Bedir Khan Beg was repeatedly responsible for massacres of the Yazidis. In 1832, thousands of Yazidis were killed in the Shekhan area by Bedir Khan Beg in cooperation with the Kurdish Soran prince Muhammad Pasha of Rawanduz. But he was not always on good terms with Muhammad Pahsa, in 1834, his army had to defend the Emirate from him. In 1836, the Ottomans attacked and defeated him, and Bedir Khan renewed his vow of allegiance to the Sultan In 1838, the Ottoman Reshid Pasha conquered Cizre and Bedir Khan began to lose his power due to the centralist policies of the Ottoman Empire, which culminated in the Tanzimat Edict of 1839 and its application the following year. Following the Battle of Nizip in 1839, in which Bedir Khan took part for the Ottoman side, he emerged as the dominant Kurdish ruler in central Kurdistan. He raised taxes, minted his own coins and organized the justice system. The security in Bohtan gave him such popularity among its habitants, that many families from neighboring districts settled in the Emirate of Bohtan. This led to a dispute with the Vali of Mosul, who in 1842 wanted to integrate the district of Cizre into the province of Mosul, an aim, to which the population of Cizre did not agree to. By 1845, Bedir Khan beg ruled over a region spanning from Diyarbakir to Mosul in the west to Urmia in the east. As it was known that he had planned the modernization of his troops by creating cross-tribal militias constituted by soldiers of several tribes and that the friday sermons were shouted in his name, the central Ottoman Government decided to end the emerging independence movement of Bedir Khan.

Triple alliance
Following the Battle of Nizip, Bedir Khan allied himself with Han Mahmud of Müküs and Nurullah Bey of Hakkari in 1840 to a triple alliance. As the Ottomans decided to detach Cizre from Diyarbakir and have it joined to the Mosul Eyalet, Bedr Khan opposed the decision and would not submit to the authority of the Vali of Mosul. In the meantime, Han Mahmoud of Müküs unsuccessfully attempted to conquer the area around Bitlis. The triple alliance entered in conflict with the local Assyrian Christian population, and perpetrated massacres amongst them in 1843 and 1846. The conflict arose, as Nestorians in the area between Urmia, Mosul and Hakkari, decided to refuse their accorded tribute to the Emir of Hakkari in 1841. After Nurullah Bey unsuccessfully attempted to subdue the Nestorians led by Shimun XVII Abraham, he called for the assistance by Bedir Khan Beg. In 1843, Bedir Khan broke their resistance and Mar Shimun took refuge in Mosul. And also in 1844 in the Tur Abdin mountains, Yazidis were again raided by Bedir Khan Beg. Bedir Khan Beg's goal was to force the Yazidis to convert to Islam.

Pressure from the European Powers to stop the massacres of Christians led to Ottoman forces invading his territories in 1846–7, with Omer Pasha's 12,000 strong Ottoman force, which was supported by Yezidi tribesmen seeking revenge,  defeating the Kurdish army in the field near Zeitun, Cizre. At the beginning of the conflict he was able to beat the Ottomans, but as an important commander of his troops, defected to the Ottomans, he was forced to flee to Evruh castle, where he endured an eight months long siege. Bedir Khan had to surrender to the Ottomans at Evreh Castle in Eruh, Siirt on the 4 July 1847. The same day also Han Mahmud was defeated in Tatvan. Bedir Khan was betrayed by Yezdanşer a distant relative and high ranking commander of his forces, who had joined the Ottoman Army in exchange of promises of a rank in the government. Yezdanşer would become appointed the mütesellim of Cizre for a short time. From Evreh castle Bedir Khan and his family were put in chains and taken to Kumçati in the Şırnak province. After 40 days in detention, Bedir Khan and his family were transferred to Constantinople.

Exile in Crete
After Bedir Khan's hopes that he would be allowed to settle in Constantinople were not fulfilled, he and his entourage were sent to Heraklion, Crete, which at the time was governed by the Ottoman Empire. In 1853 he requested twice to be allowed to return to Istanbul, but his demands were turned down. In 1855 he purchased a farm just outside of Heraklion, which he named “Kabıl Hora“. As in 1856 a strong earthquake occurred in Crete, he faced financial calamities due to the destructions of his possessions. His salary which he still received from the Ottoman Empire, was only 7000 Kuruş. After Bedir Khan managed to solve the quarrels between the Christians and Muslims on the island, the situation became better. In September 1857, Sultan Abdul Majid changed his approach towards Bedir Khan, doubling his salary, and granting 43 of his followers to return to Kurdistan. Nevertheless, Bedir Khan decided to stay in Crete.

Return and death
In 1863, Sultan Abdul Aziz, the successor of Abdul Majid, allowed Bedir Khan and his family to settle in Istanbul, where they bought a mansion in the Fatih quarter. Several of his descendants were admitted into the bureaucracy of the Ottoman Empire. In June 1868, Bedir Khan decided to settle in present-day Syria. He traveled by ship to Beirut and from there he moved to Damascus. Bedir Khan Beg died a year after he settled in Damascus. His funeral was held at the cemetery of Rukneddin, Damascus.

Family
Bedir Khan Beg was married several times, according to his son Mehmed, he had sixteen wives. Emin Ali Bedir Khan is one of his sons and Celadet Bedir Khan, Süreyya Bedir Khan and Kamuran Alî Bedirxan are his grandchildren. He was the father of twenty-one children.

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User talk:Tonners62

Welcome to my talk page! ''If you're here to talk, I'm here to listen. Words of advice and encouragement highly appreciated. Tips MORE than highly appreciated.''

Minor Edits
Thank you for volunteering on the common mistakes! In recognition of your effort, I'm offering you this Minor Barnstar.

I also wanted to congratulate you on your degree in political science. I studied polisci for a while at Gonzaga University in Spokane. My degree is in chemistry, but since I'm a city councilmember, it's apparent which course of study took hold.

BTW, the Zags are doing better at b-ball than that Illinois game would have indicated. Perhaps we can arrange for GU and Mizzou to meet in the final this year! Brian Sayrs 20:20, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I'm flattered, Brian - both for the Barnstar, and for the fact that you even suggested that Mizzou might make a trip to the Finals this year! The Zags have a quality program, we're looking forward to seeing them in Columbia on the 30th of December.  Tonya 22:42, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)

 * Hey, Tonya, I just wanted to note for the record that Mizzou managed to beat Gonzaga. It was a rock-n-roll of a game.  We'll just have to even the score in March!  Brian Sayrs 04:28, 2005 Jan 9 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project
Hi. You've helped with User:Sietse Snel/Fix common mistakes project, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

 * You must have read my mind ... that, or you're tracking my IP. *wink*  Actually, I was oggling that project no more than a half hour ago - I'll tell you my fear, and maybe you can talk me into helping with the project ... Here's the thing - I don't know a thing about tagging images.  If you can convince me that I can do a good job (and more importantly, not screw up), then I'll be more than happy to help.  Tonya 23:01, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

 * I know; it's a bit scary, and I have not done any myself yet - I've appointed myself to the pblicity team. but I had a look through some pictures and there are enough of them where people have said "I took this picture"or "I drew this" to know that they would be ... sure, it gets more complicated with the NASA images or whatever, but I guess the best advice is, start with the easy stuff, and if in doubt, come back to me or User talk:Quadell and ask for feedback on some of those you've tagged. And, err, don't worry and try to enjoy yourself. The worst that'll happen is you get to see some great images and inappropriately tag something as GFDL which should not be. And that would not be the end of the world! --Tagishsimon (talk)

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