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Talk:Parents Television and Media Council

Censorship advocacy group?
I reverted a reviewer's edit claiming that the PTC is a "censorship advocacy group". That was in the lead sentence. For now we should just describe PTC as an advocacy group and explain what it supports later in the lede section. Andrewlp1991 (talk) 00:05, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't see this, but in retrospect isn't censorship exactly what they are advocating? I read through their web site and history and it seems they primarily attempt to restrict media based on a set of arbitrary moral/religious rules they unilaterally determine. There is no transparency into their decision making process and it seems pretty autocratic. Just because they don't care to cast themselves that way in their marketing material doesn't mean it's not true. If that's not advocating censorship - well, I am perplexed. Thoughts? Lexlex (talk) 03:46, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Further looking through their material, they claim to be non-sectarian and not a censorship group, however the complaints they launch universally reflect a Christian/Catholic sensitivity (e.g. toward curse words and taking the lord's name in vain, etc.).
 * They claim what they are doing is merely to protect children, using "universal acceptance" of the belief that gratuitous violence, graphic sex and profanity have a lasting, negative effect on children as their rationale. I am not aware of any studies which are universally accepted, much less this claim - but even if it were the case, I fail to see how a study would back that a fleeting curse word or advertisement for a sexually themed program could fall into the above category - and that seems to be their main focus. I also am confused as to why they lump sexually themed programs, violently themed programs, and profanity together - and treat them as one. Any scientific study most certainly would not. Their behavior and logic seem fleeting at best, it very much seems to be based on dogma. Lexlex (talk) 19:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree that in my opinion censorship is what they are advocating. The problem is that our opinions make no difference on what should go into the article.  We need to base the article on what reliable sources call them.  If we can find any reliable sources that call them a censorship advocacy group then we can add that to the article.  At this point there are no sources that I have seen that do that so we should call them an advocacy group and also discuss there objectives and let the readers decide for themselves what the group advocates for.   GB  fan  03:58, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It is a dispute that the PTC advocates censorship. Believe me, it may not seem so but it is. Looking into a lot of ranting on the net, I learned that not the majority of Americans agree with the attempts of media restrictions of the PTC. Strange thing is that even my teachers in high school said yes when I asked in a survey of teacher's opinions, so to speak, about whether media content needs to be restricted. Back to the censorship dispute, I was in a discussion/debate with one of my friends who seemed to think that there is a difference between "censorship" and "advocating censorship." Maybe he's just taking things too literally because everyone except for the PTC themselves knows that they advocate censorship. In short: The PTC acts as a blind censorship advocacy organization that attempts to restrict what I can watch, which in my opinion is constitutionally immoral. --Sean Michael (Seaners 2010) (talk) 17:40, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Now the lead really does not make sense as "an American advocacy group". The Council most certainly does not advocate for America or American ideals, and I feel that this should be changed or removed all together. I understand that the meaning is different, but with the removal of "censorship" the lead takes on a potentially disingenuous meaning which is not appropriate for children or those who have difficulty with subtlety. Lexlex (talk) 18:13, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * They are NOT a censorship group. Get a brain!2605:A601:7018:DC00:8D3E:E16F:F636:22A5 (talk) 00:41, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Article seems biased
It seems to me that the very beginning of the article shows a very pro-PTC standpoint. It calls the group an advocacy group that educates parents about tv programming and there is mention of contacting advertisers. Well it certainly seems that the biggest advocacy that these people do is to file FCC complaints about everything and anything, propose boycotting advertisers and release press statements. It seems that very little of what they do is educational. They are an extreme anti free speech group that seems to want to restrict choice not just allow for an educated one.Tombotronic (talk) 10:11, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm having an issue with this too. The group is not a milquetoast child/parent advocacy group, it's a sectarian organization which claims it isn't. To wit: rather than telling members to simply not watch certain programming, it has decided instead to try and change the programming for everybody using organized letter writing campaigns to the FCC from "outraged" parents and regular press releases about what it finds acceptable. Their acceptability guidelines dovetail with Catholic/Christian sensitivity.

 * While it is certainly within their right to believe what they like, I would like to see the disparity of what they claim to be and what they are more highlighted in this article. It's really a matter of someone doing a little digging to find a cited article. PTC is getting more and more notoriety as a result of their campaigns, but their supposedly secular rationale is quickly losing its veracity in the eyes of anyone watching. Lexlex (talk) 15:35, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Now it's very anti-PTC. I think someone should fix it so it's neither pro or anti. Tjdrum2000 (talk) 22:53, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * As an editor, you are free to edit anything and call out what is biased and/or call for clarification or references. Welcome aboard! Lexlex (talk) 20:49, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Right Box Summary / Fact Sheet Inherent Bias
A word like focus in the "fact sheet" will make it a fact. The fact in my opinion should be alleged focus; but I want to make sure that my focus does not appear here. So I am going to change it in Stated Focus. Which does not include any value and nicely makes up for the fact that Focus is currently followed by a quote. So it should be Stated Focus followed by a quote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankk20168 (talk • contribs) 12:15, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

"Censorship advocacy group" in lead
A number of anonymous users and now a named user have attempted to change the lead to remove the term "censorship" and/or make the PTC into an "entertainment" advocacy group or something similar. The word "Censorship" is defined as: The suppression of speech or other public communication which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by a government, media outlet or other controlling body. Because the PTC openly, plainly and regularly campaigns a government agency to change or block content based on what they consider objectionable, "advocating for censorship" is a clear and plain-spoken way of describing their mission. These recent changes seem like an attempt to WP:Sanitize, however if you can show the PTC is somehow mis-characterised by that lead, I would welcome any input. Thanks much! Lexlex (傻) (talk) 20:57, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

It's absolutely pov: consider an alternative lede description such as "media decency advocacy group". As such there should be a citation that your characterization, "Censorship advocacy group", is how the group is typically regarded. As other have pointed out, no one really cares if it looks to YOU like nothing more than a censorship group. Also, I'm removing the unsourced characterization of their research as "unscientific". It looks rather typical of social science research and the research cites standard journals, but someone can prove me wrong with a citation that what they do is "unscientific" (whatever that means). I'm also eliminating some of the scare quotes eg in 'what the council considers "harmful" '. It already is ascribed to the PTC so quotes are superfluous and npov, unless it's actually a direct quote, in which case it should be sourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.65.169.20 (talk) 02:33, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

 * "Decency" is a subjective term which characterizes things as decent or not based on an arbitrary standard. To "advocate for decency" is a call for removing that which does not meet the arbitrary decency standard—plainly known as censoring. We can cite a dictionary definition if you like, but it's prima facie - it is what it is. To attempt to describe the group's mission as anything other than censorship (e.g. decency, media advocacy, watchdog, etc.) would most certainly be an intentional mischaracterization of their activity. See: WP:Sanitize.

 * PTC uses an internal rationale to justify their actions but they do not cite any neutral published studies. They may claim to have used a typical social science method, but because it isn't a published study, and therefore not subject to scrutiny, it is still just a claim. There is no way to verify it, making it "not backed by any published studies." You seem to be asking us to assume the PTC is correct in their claim and to prove you wrong with a citation, but that's not how logic works, one can't prove a negative (e.g. can you prove there isn't a silent invisible elephant in your room?). The onus is on the PTC to justify their actions in a way that stands up to scientific scrutiny. As of this writing they have not. The quote marks are just that, the council does characterize things as harmful to children, but I agree it could look like scare quotes. I will dig around and pull a cited quote. Lexlex (talk) 09:57, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

 * First, although what is decent may be subject to interpretation, it is not POV to say that PTC advocates for it's definition of decency. But I think this still misses the point, which is that the lede, particularly the lede sentence, should encapsulate the subject in a balanced way (due weight). What jumps out to you about PTC may be that their goal is to suppress speech, but my brief exposure to them is that they spend most of their time trying to apply ratings, move certain broadcasts from primetime, etc. Of course my exposure may be misleading just as yours could be, but that's why a source is needed that their mission is fundamentally "censorship advocacy". (And a source will be transparent: I suspect once you find someone describing them as "censorship advocacy", that someone will have a certain POV everyone can see. But that's better than wikipedia lending its imprimatur to the description, or suggesting that it's obvious on its face.)
 * Again consider how due weight bears on POV. You could characterize groups like the anti-defamation league, the truth campaign against tobacco ads, or anti-bullying groups as "censorship advocacy" groups to the extent that they discourage various forms of speech/print. But it would be unacceptable to put that characterization in the lede, particularly lede sentence. I would propose something analogous to the GLAAD wikipedia article: "GLAAD is a U.S. non-governmental media monitoring organisation founded by LGBT people in the media." How does that seem to you?
 * Second, as to their research, it sounds like you just want to say that their studies aren't peer-reviewed. Your other criticism (the onus on them is to justify in a scientific way, etc) is general talk, appropriate perhaps for forum or social science conference but not here. BTW, if you do note that the reports aren't peer-reviewed (if in fact that's the case--I don't know) then I would advise you also note the extent to which they are cited in the popular press. Eg pew research reports may not be peer reviewed but major newspapers rely on them.Snarfblaat (talk) 17:39, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

 * In the above paragraph you have asked to: a) change the definition to fit what the council believes, rather than objective rationality; and, b) Claimed your personal experience with the group gives you a special understanding of their motivation. That they advocate for censorship is very clearly supported by numerous articles over many years—it may not sound nice to use that word, but it's true. There is no reason to state this another way—which seems like an intentional attempt to muddy the lead paragraph. Further, claiming you have had dealings with the group suggests you may be working for or with them? If this is the case, please understand that editing articles about subjects with which you are personally connected is strongly discouraged as it's too easy to run afoul of WP:PRIMARY. The absence of any peer-reviewed studies to justify the council's actions means they have no justification for their actions, they are doing what they do because they want to. More or less people believing in what they do does not change this simple fact. Lexlex (talk) 10:40, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

 * What on earth are you babbling about. Where did I mention a personal connection? What definition do you think I changed (I didn't even define any words...)? In any event someone going on and on about "objective rationality" needs to drop the ad hominems.
 * Listen, the point of wikipedia ledes is not to present the results of peer reviewed studies. And you haven't even cited any peer reviewed studies. It certainly is not the case that in the absence of peer reviewed studies, any lead is acceptable. I have instructed you to cite a characterization of PTC as primarily a 'censorship advocacy group' so any viewer can see whether the source is worth crediting. You still have not done so. Instead you have done independent research to edit in your conclusion that PTC's arguments have no "objectively rational" basis, which is already a violation of wikipedia guidelines, and further you have made this conclusion the centerpiece of the article--the intro lede. The point of the lede is to objectively encapsulate the topic. I have suggested a lede that is completely analogous to another media watchdog group, GLAAD, yet you have given no basis for reverting (and please don't say some nonsense like "but GLAAD supports policies that are "objectively rational" and PTC doesn't").Snarfblaat (talk) 21:43, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Perhaps addressing only the lead will make this easier. If you feel the words "censorship advocacy" are not correct, please explain how that is the case. It's just two words: the definitions of each almost perfectly and succinctly encapsulate the actions of the council to date—much of which is referenced in this article. If I missed something, please show me. if you wish me to add more references, please indicate what is not supported. You seem to be asking only for a nicer way of saying this for no reason other than you don't like it, and that fails WP:Sanitize. Please also note that I am not the one reverting your edits. Lexlex (talk) 10:56, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, note that the council's own website describes their actions in a very similar way: "...agitate to eliminate TV programs..." (Aren't you violating First Amendment freedoms by censoring TV shows?) how is "agitate to eliminate" any different than "advocate to censor"? Lexlex (talk) 11:25, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

They are not censoring nor advocating for censorship, all of you are simply going by what the mainstream media says about them (nobody trusts the MSM anymore), so stop saying that's a fact cause it's not, that's opinion from the media and the fact you all are overprotective of this article is a clear violation of WP:OWN. So there! 2605:A601:7013:400:F877:B2FA:F10E:DC2A (talk) 21:34, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * That's not going to be enough to remove the content. An actual discussion will have to be held regarding this issue, not just... that. JudgeRM   (talk to me)  21:43, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Writing "they are not censoring..." doesn't change facts. PTC's actions are well documented and easily supported—and their website plainly declares their mission. There's not really an argument here. Lexlex (talk) 09:20, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

I don't think we should keep "censorship advocacy group" in the lead, because that wouldn't be neutral coverage. We should just keep it as "television advocacy group" instead. Tjdrum2000 (talk) 15:56, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:Sanitize. Lexlex (talk) 18:11, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, look, I'm pretty sure those words don't belong in the lead because the article's supposed to have a neutral stance on the topic. Because "censorship group" is something I'm sure only those who are anti-PTC call the organization, and currently this article has taken a side when it's not supposed to, which is a violation of WP:NPOV. If anything I'm pretty sure the article should say something non-biased like "television advocacy group", like me and 68.65.169.20 have suggested. And before you ask, no, what I'm suggesting has nothing to do with opposing WP:Sanitize, I'm only trying to make sure the article doesn't take a side, which you're clearly fighting for. Tjdrum2000 (talk) 21:01, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * All the points you've raised, as well as your suggested changes have been addressed pretty thoroughly above. If you're not happy about it, that's OK. But if you feel something is factually not correct, please outline how or why, or involve some others to help. I'm sure the editors here would be happy to work with you, but so far you're not bringing anything new, other than you don't personally feel it's correct—which unfortunately cannot be used as a source.Lexlex (talk) 14:08, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * seriously, can you please take your dislike of the group out of this discussion? Your position seems to be motivated by your dislike of religiously-motivated censorship. You seem to be advocating the use of the word 'censorship' because of its negative connotation, which is a violation of  WP:WTW.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  00:00, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It's a simple question: Are the actions of this group censorship or not? Per above, it very plainly is. If you can show how it isn't, please do so. From my edit history it should be pretty clear my concerns are the use of weasel words and sanitized language to justify censorship, not this particular group or its religious affiliation. Lexlex (talk) 05:49, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Coming in with no agenda or prior knowledge of this article, I am perplexed. This organization is literally a pro-censorship organization. The intro sentence "Throughout its existence, the Parents Television Council has been accused of promoting censorship" makes no sense. They literally advocate for censorship. They call on the government to ban broadcasts and communications of which they do not approve. That is the complete definition of censorship. This would apply to any plain text reading of the group's own materials or any press coverage of them. The fact that the term "censorship" carries a negative connotation is not an issue for an encyclopedia. This isn't a case similar to the Church of Scientology being pejoratively labeled a cult. The PTC proudly stands for the government enforcing bans of speech. What am I missing about the flood of dialogue above? Jbbdude (talk) 04:06, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You are missing nothing, they really do believe that!! it is astonishing, isn't it? -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 04:11, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Neutrality concerns
This article may have some significant neutrality concerns. The lead seems biased against its subject, the section "Advisory Board" appears biased towards the subject, and the article generally uses a lot of what appears to be unexplained jargon.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  00:41, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It would be helpful to other editors to highlight which statements or words you feel have undue weight using inline citations. For instructions, please see this page. Also, proposed changes are more than welcome and as I can see an open question to you above, answering it might help to illustrate your intent and get the conversation going. Lexlex (talk) 15:55, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


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List of campus buildings with no discussion or context
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Talk:Roach Motel

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It's true. Removing image of "Roach motel" because the picture was apparently drawn with paintbrush and is not a detailed rendition of a real roach motel. Not up to encyclopedia quality standards.71.163.210.242 04:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
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Appearances in popular media
After several iterations, I have come up with the following paragraph to describe uses of the Roach Motel in popular media:

 * Roach Motel devices have prominently featured in several films, including depictions of human characters ending up inside them through various plot devices. In A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master, Freddy Krueger kills a teenage girl (played by Brooke Theiss) by turning her into a cockroach, trapping her in a Roach Motel, and squishing it in his hand. In Honey, We Shrunk Ourselves, the main characters cut through a Roach Motel to escape from a cockroach that is pursuing them. The Roach Motel tagline is referenced in the 1997 film Men in Black; Agent K (played by Tommy Lee Jones) states that "Roaches check in", and Agent J (played by Will Smith) completes the thought, saying "but they don't check out". The line does not actually appear in the film, although the agents do defeat a large insect-like alien that they refer to as a cockroach.

Who is the lady in the ads?
She is the one who made the roach motel famous. How about giving her what is due? Is she still alive? I have been wondering. --68.118.201.68 (talk) 02:41, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Sottolacqua has removed this, as well as previous versions which were less narrative in structure. I'd like to determine the consensus of the community as to whether the above information should be included in the article. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:53, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

 * This is random minutia. The roach motel scene in A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master consists of less than one minute of footage, likewise with Honey, We Shrunk Ourselves. A quip from the film Men in Black is not a noteworthy pop culture reference. Furthermore, that line doesn't actually even appear in the film! Why is this trivia needed? It does nothing to add verifiable reference or additional understanding to the article.

 * None of this solidifies the Roach Motel's place in pop culture. These are random instances of a brief mentioning of the product and are a small percentage of the likely thousands of times one liners or images depicting roach motels have been seen in the media. Sottolacqua (talk) 22:00, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you ever seen such a reference for a D-Con roach trap? That the Roach Motel is the version mentioned in popular culture is itself significant. bd2412  T 22:03, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You've missed the point I'm making about the randomness and insignificance of these "references" within pop culture in general. Why mention these three specific random appearances? One of them doesn't even appear in the actual movie you're referencing. How is this applicable? Sottolacqua (talk) 22:06, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No, it doesn't appear in the film. It appears as a tagline in the marketing campaign, which is markedly more significant. You and I have differing opinions about the utility of including these materials in the article, but neither of us alone can claim that our opinion constitutes a consensus. bd2412  T 23:50, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

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 * Raw, non-notable vanity page Sajt 04:23, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Edeans 04:35, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)  I change my vote to keep due to the total rewrite by Smerdis; this despite the fact I cannot stand the song "Dominique."  It is nonetheless *sigh* noteworthy. Edeans 17:26, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Of course. Rje 06:41, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. Hoary 06:57, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ditto. [[User:Knowledge Seeker|Knowledge Seeker দ (talk)]] 08:37, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Gamaliel 08:37, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: Qualifies as a speedy deletion under the "spam" rule.  Any article that contains no text but a link or almost no text but a link is spam.  This is "She's in college.  Go here."  Geogre 14:44, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep: Smerdis did a great job, and the song is notable 8 ways to Sunday, so to speak. Geogre 04:17, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Waidaminnit! I completely replaced the vanity page with a page about the song by The Singing Nun, who went on to OD on barbiturates in the 1980s. (See arguments for the existence of God) So at any rate it is completely different now, somewhat noteworthy, and should be kept.  -- Smerdis of Tlön 16:04, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Yeesh. Couldn't we have deleted this and then gotten a new article Dominque (song) that didn't preserve this spam in its history?  Dang it.  The song is quite notable in quite a few ways, and more so than some current pop princess records, but I so don't like saving the spam. Geogre 20:13, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Just for future reference, is there a technical reason why this is preferable? Are even deleted edits valuable to Google bombers and similar vandals? -- Smerdis of Tlön 21:07, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Not that I'm aware of, although that might well occur in the future, but I'm thinking more of the person who first created the nasty coming along and reverting it. It's true that that could happen with a de novo article, too, but I can sort of imagine the person saying, "Wait.  That's not what I wrote!" and then overwriting it.  Hypothetical, perhaps, but I sometimes feel like we're running along the highway with a litter bag cleaning up after folks.  Geogre 01:25, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Good save. Andrewa 16:42, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, yes indeed. [[User:GRider|GRider\talk]] 17:19, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, I added a line about the true meaning and ironies of one of the words in the song, and mentioned that it never got much traction in France (I speak French fluently, every day). Wyss 18:12, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep in its current form. Andre ( talk )A| 23:02, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)
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 * Keep: great job. I changed my mind :) Sajt 22:45, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep it. —[[en:RaD Man|RaD Man (talk)]] 23:10, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep!. Davidl9999 19:00, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC) Dislike of a subject (or a song - however cheesy) is little reason to remove the entry. I looked this subject up in Wikipedia today because it came up in conversation. Definitely useful.

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nique-nique
Je me suis bien marré en lisant ce qui suit The lyric nique in French is an obscenity for coitus and the song was (and still is) virtually unknown in France car c'est écrit comme un véritable conte de fées ;-))) En fait, le mot nique n'est apparu en français qu'une vingtaine d'années plus tard lorsque l'on a cherché à rendre le très élégant mother-fucker... Enfin, cette chanson soi-disant virtually unknown in France y était en fait très populaire, notamment dans les milieux proches du scoutisme. En revanche, on aurait pu écrire un article analogue et surtout véridique pour les Sucettes que Gainsbourg a fait chanter à Chantal Goya. 82.224.88.52 12:52, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Je me suis bien marré à lire ce commentaire. Le verbe 'niquer' dans son acception sexuelle est apparu en 1890 soit 72 ans avant la chanson Dominique. Personne à l'époque en France n'ignorais le double sens. Et "les sucettes" de Gainsbourg n'a jamais été composée (ni même chantée) pour Chantal Goya mais pour France Gall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.90.68.213 (talk) 19:53, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

changed French and English lyrics to indicate Dominic was male, not female
but now it is used as a female's name

Actually Dominic, the way you've spelled it, is still a man's name. According to the Wikpedia article on St. Dominic, he had several names, most of them starting with Dominic but at least one starting with Domingo, the Spanish version of the name. It's true that at least in America, the French version, Dominique, is now a woman's name.35.129.66.46 (talk) 06:45, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Movie about boy and kitten that used this song?
Can anyone help me identify this movie? It was a European movie, a very sad movie. A small boy found a kitten and struggled to keep it. I think it eventually died or was killed. I'm fairly sure (but I was a child myself when I saw it, so I could be wrong) that the background for the story was a war-torn city somewhere. There was rubble and bombed buildings in many shots. Since I was a child, I have wanted to find this movie, but this is all I remember of it: the boy, the kitten and the Dominique soundtrack. Thank you for whatever help you can provide! 68.203.92.3 (talk) 18:22, 6 August 2008 (UTC) Wynn

Is this it? http://www.amazon.com/1900-Robert-Niro/dp/6301015320 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ykral (talk • contribs) 13:25, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Was it a yodeling version of Dominique? I recall a yodelled version, and I think it was by a yodelling nun (but not sure) and an internet search lead me to the wikipedia entry. Vegetationlife (talk) 11:32, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Wildly different translations
There are a number of online translations of this that are wildly different from each other. For example:

From http://lyricstranslate.com/en/dominique-dominic.html

 * Dominic, Nic, Nic
 * Nic, goes along very simply
 * Travelling in poverty and singing.
 * On every road, in every place,
 * He just talks about the Lord,
 * He just talks about the Lord.

 * In the age when John Lackland
 * Was the king of England,
 * Our father, Dominix
 * Fought the Albigensians.

 * (Chorus)

 * One day a heretic
 * Led him through the brambles,
 * But our father, Dominic
 * By his own joy, converted him.

 * (Chorus)

 * Without a camel or a coach,
 * He travelled Europe on foot,
 * Scandinavia and Provence,
 * In saintly poverty.

From http://www.allthelyrics.com/lyrics/the_singing_nun/dominique-lyrics-425279.html

 * Dominique, nique, nique, over the land he plods
 * And sings a little song
 * Never asking for reward
 * He just talks about the Lord
 * He just talks about the Lord

 * At a time when Johnny Lackland
 * Over England was the King
 * Dominique was in the backland
 * Fighting sin like anything

 * Now a heretic, one day
 * Among the thorns forced him to crawl
 * Dominique with just one prayer
 * Made him hear the good Lord's call

 * Without horse or fancy wagon
 * He crossed Europe up and down
 * Poverty was his companion
 * As he walked from town to town

From http://www.markfoster.net/name/dominique_english.html

 * Dominique, nique, nique
 * I will tell of Dominique
 * His goodness to acclaim
 * And I pray the song I sing
 * Will some simple pleasure bring
 * That the world shall know his name!

 * I will tell of Dominique as I sing this little song
 * And when I sing the chorus all the world will sing along!

 * Dominique, nique, nique it was good Saint Dominique
 * He lived for you and me
 * From his labors long ago
 * Came a better world I know! And his love shall always be!

 * Though I'm poor, said Dominique as he spoke unto the Lord,
 * I will be your humble servent and your love is my reward!

 * Dominique, nique, nique I will follow Dominique
 * His burdens will I share
 * For his courage will I pray
 * His teachings to obey! His words shall be my prayer!

 * By the kindness of his heart and the labor of his hand
 * He brought love and understanding as he wandered through the land!

Google translate:

 * Dominique, nique
 * Nique is simply going
 * Poor road and singing
 * In all ways, in all places
 * He speaks only of God
 * He speaks only of God

 * A e era or John Lackland
 * Of England was King
 * Dominique, our Father
 * Fought the Albigensian

 * (chorus)

 * One day a heretic
 * By brambles leads
 * But our father Dominic
 * By joy converts

 * (chorus)

 * or camel
 * Diligence or he parcout Europe foot
 * Scandinavia and Provence
 * In the holy poverty

Does anyone have a reliable source on this? If Deckers herself recorded it in French and English, it shouldn't be difficult to find the words she used. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:18, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * ^In any case she didn't use the above mentioned ones (the sources of which themselves admit that they made a translation. ~--Loginnigol (talk) 16:11, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

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 * USS Cushing (TB-1), a torpedo boat (the first) commissioned in 1890, and served until her decommissioning in 1898
 * USS Cushing (DD-55), an O'Brien-class destroyer commissioned 1915 and decommissioned in 1920
 * USS Cushing (DD-376), a Mahan-class destroyer, commissioned in 1936, sunk during the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal in November 1942
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Voltage-gated ion channel

Voltage-gated ion channels are a class of transmembrane proteins that form ion channels that are activated by changes in the electrical membrane potential near the channel. The membrane potential alters the conformation of the channel proteins, regulating their opening and closing. Cell membranes are generally impermeable to ions, thus they must diffuse through the membrane through transmembrane protein channels. They have a crucial role in excitable cells such as neuronal and muscle tissues, allowing a rapid and co-ordinated depolarization in response to triggering voltage change. Found along the axon and at the synapse, voltage-gated ion channels directionally propagate electrical signals. Voltage-gated ion-channels are usually ion-specific, and channels specific to sodium (Na+), potassium (K+), calcium (Ca2+), and chloride (Cl−) ions have been identified. The opening and closing of the channels are triggered by changing ion concentration, and hence charge gradient, between the sides of the cell membrane.

Structure
Voltage-gated ion channels are generally composed of several subunits arranged in such a way that there is a central pore through which ions can travel down their electrochemical gradients. The channels tend to be ion-specific, although similarly sized and charged ions may sometimes travel through them. The functionality of voltage-gated ion channels is attributed to its three main discrete units: the voltage sensor, the pore or conducting pathway, and the gate. Na+, K+, and Ca2+ channels are composed of four transmembrane domains arranged around a central pore; these four domains are part of a single α-subunit in the case of most Na+ and Ca2+ channels, whereas there are four α-subunits, each contributing one transmembrane domain, in most K+ channels. The membrane-spanning segments, designated S1-S6, all take the form of alpha helices with specialized functions. The fifth and sixth transmembrane segments (S5 and S6) and pore loop serve the principal role of ion conduction, comprising the gate and pore of the channel, while S1-S4 serve as the voltage-sensing region. The four subunits may be identical, or different from one another. In addition to the four central α-subunits, there are also regulatory β-subunits, with oxidoreductase activity, which are located on the inner surface of the cell membrane and do not cross the membrane, and which are coassembled with the α-subunits in the endoplasmic reticulum.

Mechanism
Crystallographic structural studies of a potassium channel have shown that, when a potential difference is introduced over the membrane, the associated electric field induces a conformational change in the potassium channel. The conformational change distorts the shape of the channel proteins sufficiently such that the cavity, or channel, opens to allow influx or efflux to occur across the membrane. This movement of ions down their concentration gradients subsequently generates an electric current sufficient to depolarize the cell membrane.

Voltage-gated sodium channels and calcium channels are made up of a single polypeptide with four homologous domains. Each domain contains 6 membrane spanning alpha helices. One of these helices, S4, is the voltage sensing helix. The S4 segment contains many positive charges such that a high positive charge outside the cell repels the helix, keeping the channel in its closed state.

In general, the voltage sensing portion of the ion channel is responsible for the detection of changes in transmembrane potential that trigger the opening or closing of the channel. The S1-4 alpha helices are generally thought to serve this role. In potassium and sodium channels, voltage-sensing S4 helices contain positively-charged lysine or arginine residues in repeated motifs. In its resting state, half of each S4 helix is in contact with the cell cytosol. Upon depolarization, the positively-charged residues on the S4 domains move toward the exoplasmic surface of the membrane. It is thought that the first 4 arginines account for the gating current, moving toward the extracellular solvent upon channel activation in response to membrane depolarization. The movement of 10–12 of these protein-bound positive charges triggers a conformational change that opens the channel. The exact mechanism by which this movement occurs is not currently agreed upon, however the canonical, transporter, paddle, and twisted models are examples of current theories.

Movement of the voltage-sensor triggers a conformational change of the gate of the conducting pathway, controlling the flow of ions through the channel.

The main functional part of the voltage-sensitive protein domain of these channels generally contains a region composed of S3b and S4 helices, known as the "paddle" due to its shape, which appears to be a conserved sequence, interchangeable across a wide variety of cells and species. A similar voltage sensor paddle has also been found in a family of voltage sensitive phosphatases in various species. Genetic engineering of the paddle region from a species of volcano-dwelling archaebacteria into rat brain potassium channels results in a fully functional ion channel, as long as the whole intact paddle is replaced. This "modularity" allows use of simple and inexpensive model systems to study the function of this region, its role in disease, and pharmaceutical control of its behavior rather than being limited to poorly characterized, expensive, and/or difficult to study preparations.

Although voltage-gated ion channels are typically activated by membrane depolarization, some channels, such as inward-rectifier potassium ion channels, are activated instead by hyperpolarization.

The gate is thought to be coupled to the voltage sensing regions of the channels and appears to contain a mechanical obstruction to ion flow. While the S6 domain has been agreed upon as the segment acting as this obstruction, its exact mechanism is unknown. Possible explanations include: the S6 segment makes a scissor-like movement allowing ions to flow through, the S6 segment breaks into two segments allowing of passing of ions through the channel, or the S6 channel serving as the gate itself. The mechanism by which the movement of the S4 segment affects that of S6 is still unknown, however it is theorized that there is a S4-S5 linker whose movement allows the opening of S6.

Inactivation of ion channels occurs within milliseconds after opening. Inactivation is thought to be mediated by an intracellular gate that controls the opening of the pore on the inside of the cell. This gate is modeled as a ball tethered to a flexible chain. During inactivation, the chain folds in on itself and the ball blocks the flow of ions through the channel. Fast inactivation is directly linked to the activation caused by intramembrane movements of the S4 segments, though the mechanism linking movement of S4 and the engagement of the inactivation gate is unknown.

Sodium (Na+ ) channels
Sodium channels have similar functional properties across many different cell types. While ten human genes encoding for sodium channels have been identified, their function is typically conserved between species and different cell types.

Calcium (Ca2+ ) channels
With sixteen different identified genes for human calcium channels, this type of channel differs in function between cell types. Ca2+ channels produce action potentials similarly to Na+ channels in some neurons. They also play a role in neurotransmitter release in pre-synaptic nerve endings. In most cells, Ca2+ channels regulate a wide variety of biochemical processes due to their role in controlling intracellular Ca2+ concentrations.

Potassium (K+) channels
Potassium channels are the largest and most diverse class of voltage-gated channels, with over 100 encoding human genes. These types of channels differ significantly in their gating properties; some inactivating extremely slowly and others inactivating extremely quickly. This difference in activation time influences the duration and rate of action potential firing, which has a significant effect on electrical conduction along an axon as well as synaptic transmission. Potassium channels differ in structure from the other channels in that they contain four separate polypeptide subunits, while the other channels contain four homologous domain but on a single polypeptide unit.

Chloride (Cl−) channels
Chloride channels are present in all types of neurons. With the chief responsibility of controlling excitability, chloride channels contribute to the maintenance of cell resting potential and help to regulate cell volume.

Proton (H+) channels
Voltage-gated proton channels carry currents mediated by hydrogen ions in the form of hydronium, and are activated by depolarization in a pH-dependent manner. They function to remove acid from cells.

Phylogenetics
Phylogenetic studies of proteins expressed in bacteria revealed the existence of a superfamily of voltage-gated sodium channels. Subsequent studies have shown that a variety of other ion channels and transporters are phylogenetically related to the voltage-gated ion channels, including:

 * inwardly rectifying K+ channels,
 * ryanodine-inositol 1,4,5-triphosphate receptor Ca2+ channels,
 * transient receptor potential Ca2+ channels,
 * polycystin cation channels,
 * glutamate-gated ion channels,
 * calcium-dependent chloride channels,
 * monovalent cation:proton antiporters, type 1, and
 * potassium transporters.

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The Green Bullfrog album has a Motown feel with an open jam-like atmosphere. Performances are high spirited, mostly up tempo, especially the hot closer "Bullfrog", where musicians take turns at ripping out some pretty tasty solos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.179.227.33 (talk • contribs) 04:28, 9 December 2004 (UTC)

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Hi, Two quick questions please because I don't have access to refs. Is the date for 3rd recording session 4 or 7 January? Is the 1980 re-release more simply named Green Frog, or is that a typo? Thanks, JennyOz (talk) 12:31, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , Checked my CD liner notes, it's definitely 4 January 1971 according to that. The 1980 reissue, which I also have has "Natural Magic (TM)" on the LP spine and the label, but I don't think that's part of the title. Green Frog was added by this edit, which wasn't me and there's never been an album called that. I am concerned the GA review did not pick up on these factual errors, but since the sources are all offline and I'm probably the only editor who has them sitting twelve feet away from a computer terminal, I'll take the blame for this. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  13:14, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying . I'm going to see if I can find and listen. With such an assembly, it can't be too bad. JennyOz (talk) 13:38, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , It's a great album, incredibly obscure, but I've been listening to it on and off for over 30 years, never getting tired of it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  13:56, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , you're right, it's great! Thanks for the introduction. JennyOz (talk) 15:23, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Baked Alaska

Notability
This really needs to go to Wikibooks for the cookbook in that it is mostly a recipie; does it have enough cultural significance to stay here? (Was it bigger in the 1960s because there were more big dinner parties then? Or was there a more general fasicination with "Alaska" and things named for it in the lower 48 then because it was new as a state?)  Rlquall 04:28, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Baked Alaska is still served on many cruiseships, especially on Alaskan cruises. I looked this up out of curiousity of the ingredients after returing from such a cruise and I think the article should stay to assist those similarly curious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.193.252.225 (talk • contribs) 09:35, 27 August 2006

Sugar
Where does the sugar get added in the recipe, it isn't listed! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nodmonkey (talk • contribs) 21:49, 5 July 2005
 * There's sugar in the cake, the ice cream and the meringue. What more do you need?  JDZeff (talk) 21:20, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Frozen Florida
If there is not a link to Frozen Florida, it should probably be dropped. Not sure that it is a valid item or a joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aarenz (talk • contribs) 16:13, 1 February 2006

Trivia?
The single piece of trivia under the Trivia subsection needs to be either expanded or deleted completely. If nothing happens in 48 hours, I'll take it upon myself to delete it. Matthew 20:54, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Reference?
The is a problem with the referance. I will fix it but if it is supposed to stay like that ok. You have 24 hours or I will change.--Williamaiman 19:38, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

chinese invention of baking ice cream in an insulated shell
I find this difficult to believe. Nine tenths of the chinese population is lactose intolerant. Where is the motvation to make such a discovery 67.183.74.204 (talk) 20:53, 15 December 2007 (UTC).
 * Most lactose intolegant people can consume some milk/lactose without any severe symptons. And the level of lactose in ice cream isn't actually that high. I think you'll find ice cream is actually quite popular in China and some sources suggest they may have been one of the early inventors Nil Einne (talk) 22:10, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Dodgy trivia removed
I'm removing the unsourced and unlikely ''Orignially discovered by a Mr Kevin Barnes, Hotel Institute Montreux F&B Manager. He is credited for the discover [sic] but some say it was an ancient Mayan recipe thought to be used during virgin sacrifices.''

Feel free to put it back in if you can back it up with references, but I was always taught that the Mayans only ever used arctic rolls and cheesecakes in their religious ceremonies. Traveller palm (talk) 19:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Christmas Pudding?
Really? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.61.141 (talk) 20:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Flame on the iceberg should be merged into Baked Alaska
Flame on the iceberg is just another name of Bombe Alaska, a close variation of Baked Alaska which has been already mentioned in this article.--202.40.137.199 (talk) 04:34, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Advertisement for Cūlinique?
This "The process was simplified in 1974 by Jacqueline Halliday Diaz who invented a baking pan for Baked Alaska called Cūlinique ..." reads like an advertisement for "Cūlinique". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinzagar (talk • contribs) 14:33, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

 * It does rather. I looked back a good long way and found an earlier version of this sentence:

The process was simplified in 1974 by Jacqueline Halliday Diaz who invented a baking pan for Baked Alaska that forms a fillable hollow.

 * So the brand name has been added at some point. Let's remove it. LynwoodF (talk) 14:58, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Yet another Trivia-Patrol mission
Replaced absurd "most common" (claim) w/ "most distinctive". "Most" has a very specific meaning, about which no one 's fringe opinion matters. Anyone making that claim is an idiot, a liar, or drama queen, bcz no one can doubt that every person who hears its name *mentioned* for the first time says "what's that?" -- unless a bitefull is already tickling their sensorium, and for some reason they can think of nothing but "Wow, I wonder not only what this stuff is named, but in fact, why?" Am I going too far? Are there more idiots, liars, and drama queens than I dare recall.... Well, yeah, maybe ... but still: not that many! Words have meanings, and in reference books, those meanings matter a lot more more than punchy word choices. --JerzyA (talk) 01:28, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Origin
The origin is being listed as New Orleans, USA. None of the references support that. The references support that the name was coined in New Orleans, but not that the dish was created in New Orleans. Some of the references claim it was invented by Thompson in 1804 (while he was living in Bavaria), others that it was created in Paris in 1867. None mention New Orleans other than for the origin of the name. Quantum Knot (talk) 18:58, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Popularity of Baked Alaska in HK
Not sure the dessert can really be considered 'very popular' in HK - I'm from here, born and raised, and today was the first time I've ever heard of it. I've had meals at multiple hotels, none of them served this cake. (Also 'very popular' is subjective - what may be common to some hotel-goers may be foreign to the average joe. Perhaps just say that the dessert can be found in HK? Though I should note that it most definitely came here from the West, we aren't exactly renowned for making ice cream based desserts are we) Armadeus11 (talk) 16:41, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

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USS Finback

Two submarines of the United States Navy have borne the name USS Finback, named in honor of the finback, a common whale of the Atlantic coast of the United States.

 * The first USS Finback (SS-230), was a Gato-class submarine, commissioned in 1942 and stricken in 1958.
 * The second USS Finback (SSN-670), was a Sturgeon-class submarine, commissioned in 1970 and stricken in 1997.

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The endless and often quite heated debates, the lack of respect for experience and knowledge, and other problems, along with my busy schedule in real life, drove me away from Wikipedia for a number of months in the first half of 2008. I returned briefly, thinking I would keep a low profile, being far less involved than I used to, but ultimately was driven away again by the debates and politics which continually plague Wikipedia, and as such stopped contributing in any significant way at some point in 2012, or perhaps earlier.

I generally tried to be as patient, flexible, and understanding on issues of debate as possible. But I found that such debates were, more often than not, not worth fighting, as my contributions to Wikipedia were meant to be a hobby, and enjoyable - not a source of stress in my life. I did my best, therefore, not to get on anyone's nerves, and not to devote my free time, my hobby time, to arguing with people. However, this aspect of Wikipedia is I think one of its primary flaws. We really need to focus better on producing accurate, objective material, and presenting it in a professional and academic manner, and not arguing with one another.

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Peter R. Hunt

Peter Roger Hunt (11 March 1925 – 14 August 2002) was a British director, editor and producer of film and television, best known for his work on the James Bond film series, first as an editor and then as a second unit director. He finally served as director for On Her Majesty's Secret Service. His work on the series helped pioneer an innovative, fast-cutting editing style.

Biography
As an infantryman, Hunt served in Salerno, Italy, in 1943.

After undertaking several forms of employment, Hunt worked as an assistant cutter for Alexander Korda, before working as an assembling editor on The Man Who Watched Trains Go By. After several B-movies, he served as the supervising editor on A Hill in Korea. The following year, Hunt edited The Admirable Crichton (directed and co-written by Lewis Gilbert), becoming good friends with John Glen. Hunt continued his collaboration with Gilbert on films such as Ferry to Hong Kong and Sink the Bismarck!.

In the 1960s, Hunt signed on as an editor on the first James Bond film, Dr. No (1962), and he edited From Russia with Love (1963) and Goldfinger (1964). On those three films, Hunt developed an editing technique in which he utilized quick cutting, allowing camera swings during action and inserts interleaving other elements. He also worked with Harry Saltzman and Albert R. Broccoli on the Bob Hope film Call Me Bwana (1963), and with Saltzman and a few other Bond veterans on the non-Eon thriller The IPCRESS File (1965). Call Me Bwana was the only film produced by the James Bond production company Eon Productions that was not a Bond film until 2014.

After editing Thunderball (1965), Hunt asked to direct You Only Live Twice (1967) but was passed over in favor of Lewis Gilbert. Although Hunt initially quit in protest, Broccoli and Saltzman persuaded him to stay as second unit director on the understanding that he would be promoted to director in a future Eon film. Saltzman and Broccoli were impressed with his quick cutting skills and felt he had set the style for the series. Hunt directed the "Little Nellie" sequence of the film. When Gilbert passed on the opportunity to direct On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969), Broccoli and Saltzman selected Hunt as director. Hunt also asked for the position during the production of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (1968), and he brought along with him many crew members, including cinematographer Michael Reed and editor John Glen. Hunt was concerned to put his mark on the production – "I wanted it to be different than any other Bond film would be. It was my film, not anyone else's."

On Her Majesty's Secret Service was the last James Bond film on which Hunt worked. Hunt was asked to direct numerous other Eon Bond films — including Live and Let Die, The Spy Who Loved Me, and For Your Eyes Only — but always declined. In 1971, Hunt directed episodes of The Persuaders! with Bond star, Roger Moore; he also directed Moore in Gold (1974) and Shout at the Devil (1976) with Lee Marvin. Although approached by Kevin McClory, he refused to direct Never Say Never Again (1983) afraid that Broccoli would consider him disloyal. His last films included Wild Geese II (1985) and the Cannon Film thrillers, Death Hunt (1981) and Assassination (1987), both starring Charles Bronson. He also directed the epic television miniseries The Last Days of Pompeii (1984).

Personal life
Hunt spent his later years living in the United States. He was gay and lived with his partner, Nicos Kourtis, from 1975 until his death. He died of heart failure on 14 August 2002 at his home in Santa Monica, California, at the age of 77.

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Azerbaijani hip hop

Azerbaijani hip hop (Azərbaycan hip-hopu) is the musical genre which became popular in Azerbaijan in mid-1990s. It's a mix of native meykhana genre of Azerbaijani music with Western hip hop.

History
The first Azerbaijani hip-hop song "Dünənki keçdi" (Yesterday is Past) was created in 1983 by Chingiz Mustafayev, who would later become Azerbaijan's national hero for unrelated reasons. The pioneer of Azerbaijani rap often associated with name of Anar Nagilbaz in 1992, which also included elements of disco but the popularity of the rap genre came with the rise of Dayirman, which included primarily patriotic elements.

In 2000s, despite mass emergence of independent rappers like Elşad Xose and Huseyn Derya and popularity of hip-hop shows like "Mən də varam" on Space TV, only a few Azerbaijani rap artists have achieved commercial success. During the late 2000s, rap group H.O.S.T. became primarily popular among hip hop fans.

On 29 December 2011, the first Azerbaijani national musical, a hip-hop version of the classic love story Leyli and Majnun, has been performed in Baku. Despite the commercial dominance of hip-hop and Azerbaijani pop music during this period, rapper Miri Yusif found success with his reggae and soul fusion album "Karma", peaked at number 1 in the Azerbaijani Albums Chart in 2010.

Notable artists

 * Anar Nagilbaz
 * Chingiz Mustafayev
 * Elşad Xose
 * Huseyn Derya
 * OKABER
 * Qaraqan
 * Xpert

Groups

 * Dayirman
 * H.O.S.T.

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Peter Hunt

Peter Hunt may refer to:

 * Peter Hunt (British Army officer) (1916–1988), Chief of the General Staff of the British Army
 * Peter H. Hunt (1938–2020), American film, television and stage director
 * Peter R. Hunt (1925–2002), film editor on many early James Bond films and director of On Her Majesty's Secret Service
 * Peter Hunt (literary critic) (born 1945), scholar of children's literature
 * Peter Hunt (politician) (born 1966), General Secretary of the British political party, the Co-operative Party
 * Peter Hunt (darts player) (born 1965), darts player from New Zealand
 * Peter Hunt (footballer) (born 1952), English footballer
 * Peter Hunt (folk artist) (1896–1967), American folk artist
 * Peter John Hunt (1933–1997), British businessman

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RETAIN

RETAIN is a mainframe based database system, accessed via IBM 3270 terminals (or more likely, emulators), used internally within IBM providing service support to IBM field personnel and customers.

The acronym RETAIN stands for Remote Technical Assistance Information Network.

Predecessor system
Historically, two different, but similar, systems were called RETAIN. The first, dating to the mid-1960s was a system that provided technical information to people in the IBM Field Engineering Division in the form of short bulletins or tips, organized according to machine type number or, for software, according to software component ID number. This information was accessible using simple query commands from IBM service branch office terminals. The terminals supported by this early RETAIN system were typewriter-type terminals, such as the IBM 2740. These same terminals were also used to access the IBM Field Instruction System (FIS), which provided education in the form of programmed instruction courseware. The RETAIN system was built on the same software framework as that of FIS. In fact, most of the early support for RETAIN was actually written in the language of a "course".

The system was primarily used to provide field support for the System/360 family of mainframe systems, although it was used also to disseminate some technical information on other older systems.

RETAIN/370
In 1970, concurrent with the announcement of System/370, the next generation of mainframes after System/360, a new system was announced, called RETAIN/370. This system was designed for use by special Technical Support Centers located in regional centers, rather than by the branch office. This new system was designed to display terminals, rather than the old typewriter-based ones. A special version of the 2915 display, originally designed for the airline reservations systems, such as SABRE, was used. The 2915 was a small keyboard-display driven by a large electronic controller and data interchange unit, the IBM 2948. Each 2948 could control up to 31 display terminals, which had to be located within a few hundred feet. The cost of this display system, with its large controller, prevented the 2915 terminals from being used in branch offices, so they were used in regional support centers instead. The older RETAIN system continued to be used for several years afterwards, running in parallel with RETAIN/370, still connected to branch-office terminals. It was sometimes called the "RETAIN/360" system, although that designation was never formalized. In time, after RETAIN/370 became available via 3270 terminals in the branch offices, the old RETAIN system was phased out, and RETAIN/370 was renamed to simply RETAIN.

Search engine
RETAIN/370 ran special applications designed for technical support center use. Its most powerful feature was a full-text search engine, enabling most text documents in the system to be retrieved by using boolean search requests, similar in concept to full-text search engines in use today on the Internet, such as Google or AltaVista, although limited only to searching for individual words, or combinations of words, without reference to word-adjacency. RETAIN/370 was the first IBM system deployed on a large scale that had such a capability. The search engine component of RETAIN is called IRIS, for Interpretive Retrieval Information System (not to be confused with other non-IBM software systems of that name... IBM never sold this search engine as a product, so there was no trademark issue).

Mirrored database
In the mid-1970s, a RETAIN was expanded to permit multiple copies of the database to be hosted on geographically distributed systems. RETAIN's custom-built Data Bank Manager, which served as the foundation for all RETAIN applications, and the IRIS search engine, was modified to support "mirroring" of file updates to take place automatically across the network, in a manner nearly invisible to the application programs, but which providing a high level of data integrity. After this change, RETAIN hosts were created in two US locations, two in Europe, two in South America, and two in Japan. Most applications were developed by IBM programmers in Raleigh, NC, (moved to Boulder, Colorado, in 1976) with some work being done in North Harbour, UK.

Registered users of the system numbered in the thousands, in over 60 countries.

Remote support
At the time System/370 was announced, along with the corresponding RETAIN/370 system, IBM announced that the new family of computers would be equipped to permit remote diagnosis of hardware problems. Each System/370 installation of model 145 and above have a telecommunications adapter included capable of being used for remote support. The hardware diagnostic programs were written to allow control via a remote connection to applications on the RETAIN system that could be controlled by IBM specialists located at the IBM support center in Chicago, managed by Paul Rushton, and also including the original plant of manufacture of the CPU. This form of support was dubbed "Data Link / Hardware". The connection was made through a communications device called an IBM 2955 adapter, a stripped-down variant of the 2701 communications controller. It could connect at 600 bit/s to the RETAIN system to run diagnostics. Mainly, this was to run mostly the same diagnostics that could be run locally by an IBM CE, but in time other specialized applications were developed, such as programs to analyze "logouts" generated by hardware malfunctions, i.e. "machine check" interruptions.

In time, the concept of remote support was extended to software as well (about 1973 or 1974). Through a special application, an MVS system could be connected, via RETAIN, to an IBM support center, and memory dumps and other system data could be examined remotely. The application also permitted download of software fixes, or IBM Program temporary fixes. Although the 2955 only supported a 6-bit character code (similar to the 2740 terminal), binary transfer of memory dump and software updates was accomplished through a protocol similar to the base-64 encoding scheme used today on the Internet for email attachments.

Over the years, several projects have aimed to supplant RETAIN's functionality, but it has shown lasting presence despite them.

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