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American oystercatcher

The American oystercatcher (Haematopus palliatus), occasionally called the American pied oystercatcher, is a member of family Haematopodidae. Originally called the "sea pie", it was renamed in 1731 when naturalist Mark Catesby observed the bird eating oysters. The current population of American oystercatchers is estimated to be 43,000. There are estimated to be 1,500 breeding pairs along the Atlantic and Gulf Coasts of the US. The bird is marked by its black and white body and a long, thick orange beak.

Description
The American oystercatcher has distinctive black and white plumage and a long, bright orange beak. The head and breast are black and the back, wings and tail greyish-black. The underparts are white, as are feathers on the inner part of the wing which become visible during flight. The irises are yellow and the eyes have orange orbital rings. The legs are pink. Adults are between 42-52 cm in length.

Distribution
The American oystercatcher is found on the Atlantic coast of North America from coastal Massachusetts to northern Florida, where it is also found on the Gulf coast, the Caribbean, and south to Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina. It is found also in the Pacific coast of California, Mexico, Central America, Peru, and Chile. In the 19th century they became locally extinct in the lower northeastern United States due to market hunting and egg collecting. After receiving protection under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, their range extended northward to re-occupy historical habitat in the coastal Northeast.

During the breeding season, these birds are found along the Atlantic and Gulf Coasts and from Massachusetts south to Argentina and Chile. In winter, they are found in flocks along the coast from central New Jersey to the Gulf of Mexico.

Habitat
During the breeding season, the American oystercatcher can be found in coastal habitats including sand or shell beaches, dunes, salt marshes, marsh islands, mudflats, and dredge spoil islands made of sand or gravel. During migration and winter, they are found feeding in mud or salt flats that are exposed by the tide. They are also found on shellfish beaches at this time.

Behavior
Oystercatchers are closely tied to coastal habitats. They nest on beaches on coastal islands and feed on marine invertebrates. The large, heavy beak is used to pry open bivalve mollusks. Oystercatchers raise a clutch of two or three eggs.

Feeding
The American oystercatcher feeds almost exclusively on shellfish and other marine invertebrates. Oysters are a staple of their diet, as their name suggests, but they also eat mussels, clams, limpets, sea urchins, starfish, crabs, and worms. In general, they use their bills to catch shellfish. As they walk across a shellfish bed, they look for a mollusk with a partially opened shell. When they find one, they jab their bill into the shell and sever the muscle that causes the shell to clamp shut. This can be dangerous, however, as they are sometimes drowned when they don't completely sever this muscle and the shell clamps down on their bill. A strong, tightly rooted mollusk can hold the bird in place until the tide comes in. They also feed by carrying loose shellfish out of the water and hammering at the shell or by probing the sand for soft-shell or razor clams.

Mating
American oystercatchers first breed at an age of 3–4 years.

When courting, the birds will walk together and make a single piping note. This progresses to leaning towards each other, extending and lowering the neck, and running alongside each other while calling. The pair may then burst into flight and fly in a tight formation around their territory.

Nests
American oystercatchers breed between April and July. Their nests are shallow depressions scraped into the sand by an adult. Breeding adults will make 5 or more of these scrapes, then choose one to line with shells and/or pebbles. These depressions are about 8 in across and 2.5 in deep. A female oystercatcher lays 2–4 eggs per nest. Each egg is 2.1–2.3 cm long and 1.5–1.6 cm wide. The eggs are gray and speckled with dark brown.

Although the eggs are well camouflaged, they are vulnerable to predation by raccoons, coyotes, skunks, gulls, crows, rats, and foxes.

Both parents will alternate incubating the eggs for 25 to 27 days.

Chicks
When born, the chicks are covered in tan down and can run within 2 hours of hatching. They are considered semi-precocial young as they can leave the nest soon after hatching but still rely on their parents for food. Chicks will fledge at about 35 days old After fledging, chicks still rely on their parents for food as it takes up to 60 days for the beak to become strong enough to pry open mollusks. During this time, care of the chicks is evenly divided by the parents.

Status
Historically, the American oystercatcher was hunted to near extinction in the 19th century for plumage and eggs. They have recovered significantly since the passage of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act in 1918. The IUCN lists this species as being of "Least Concern". The reasons given are that the bird has a very wide range and that the total number of individuals is believed to be stable, and actually increasing in the case of the United States. Nevertheless, in some states American oystercatchers are listed as a species of concern because of low and declining populations. The North American population of American oystercatchers was listed on the 2014 State of the Birds Watch List. Although not listed as a federally threatened or endangered species, it is vulnerable to loss of habitat due to development on the coasts and sea level rise. These birds are also threatened by pollution, disease, and invasive species which can impact food availability.

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Shepherd Wheel

Shepherd Wheel is a working museum in a former water-powered grinding workshop situated on the Porter Brook in the south-west of the City of Sheffield, England. One of the earliest wheels on the River Porter, it is one of the few remaining—and effectively complete—examples of this kind of enterprise, one that used to be commonplace in the Sheffield area. Its 5.5 m (18 ft) diameter overshot water wheel is powered from a large dam stocked with water diverted from the Porter Brook. The workshops, dam, goit and weir are Grade II listed, and the site is a Scheduled Ancient Monument.

History and buildings
In 1584, William Beighton, a cutler of Stumperlowe left to his sons in his will: "all my interest terms titles and possession which I have in and upon one watter whele called Potar Whele which I have of the grant of the said Lord". This is the earliest reference to a wheel on the site. The description of this wheel matches one that Edward Shepherd – after whom the site is now named – held the tenancy of in 1794. There were no similar wheels in the area, which leads us to the conclusion that the references are to the same wheel.

The present buildings date from c. 1780. Throughout the 19th century the wheel was held by the Hinde family, who operated it until its closure in 1930.

In William Beighton's time, the land was originally owned by Gilbert Talbot, 7th Earl of Shrewsbury, who was Lord of the Manor of Sheffield. When he died, his estates passed to Thomas Howard, who became Duke of Norfolk. The land remained with the Dukes of Norfolk until 1900, when Sheffield City Council bought Whiteley Woods to make a public park. The sale also included Shepherd Wheel itself. After a campaign by local history societies, the wheel was restored and opened as a museum in 1962. The museum was closed in 1997 and passed to the management of the Sheffield Industrial Museums Trust in 1998.

Museum
Since 1998, Shepherd Wheel has been run as a museum by the Sheffield Industrial Museums Trust (now the Sheffield Museums Trust). The museum includes a water wheel, two grinding hulls (rooms with multiple large grinding wheels, operated by the water wheel, built into the floor) and grinding wheels; there is also a collection of tools and equipment on display within the grinding hulls.

The Shepherd Wheel reopened (after a restoration project partly funded by a £500,000 Heritage Lottery grant) on 31 March 2012.

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Shingu

Shingu may refer to:

Iran
- Shīngū
 * Shingu, Iran, a village in Kohurestan Rural District, in the Central District of Khamir County, Hormozgan Province

Japan
Shingū (新宮)
 * Shingū, Ehime (新宮村), a former village located in Uma District, Ehime Prefecture, now part of the city of Shikokuchūō
 * Shingū, Fukuoka (新宮町), a town located in Kasuya District, Fukuoka Prefecture
 * Shingū, Hyōgo (新宮町), a town located in Ibo District, Hyōgo Prefecture, now part of the city of Tatsuno
 * Shingū Station, a railway station in Shingū, Wakayama Prefecture
 * Shingū, Wakayama (新宮市), a city located in Wakayama Prefecture
 * Shingū-Chūō Station, a railway station on the Kagoshima Main Line, in Shingū, Fukuoka

Pakistan

 * Shingu Charpa, a mountain in the Hushe Region

Entertainment

 * Shingu: Secret of the Stellar Wars, anime series

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Talk:Fugees

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From what publication is the number 1 status given to "Killing Me Softly" attributed?

== nothing listed about Aswad Ayinde ! pathetic wikipedia as usual

There is just One(1) reference for the statement "The Largest-Selling Rap Hroup of All Time", it is a biography of Lauren Hill, And it makes no mention of this fact. I am going to remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.147.88.25 (talk) 09:43, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Name
soon! 84.148.102.85 21:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Album title
Which source says that the new album will be called "Reconciliation"? --Captainguinness 01:09, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 15:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Name
Is the name definatly The Fugees? On the album cover for The Score it shows the name as just Fugees? 1987dan (talk) 20:54, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Website
I am a noob at wiki. but the HYPER LINK to the Bands website is BROKEN please fix or link to archived version

Ethnicity/Nationality
It really should say African american why do people keep changing it, or hatian american (Majority)
 * No, tt should be simply "American", that is the United States of America. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 10:35, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Requested move 12 December 2015

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus that the current title is more common in reliable sources. Jenks24 (talk) 04:57, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Fugees → The Fugees – Their official website identifies them as The Fugees. Unreal7 (talk) 23:26, 12 December 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:23, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

 * Disagree: I googled Fugees and most of the information searches Fugees. While you are correct, that there are references of "The Fugees" on their website, there are numerous album covers that refer to them solely as "Fugees". This is not like "The Simpsons", in my opinion. A tricky one to say the least, but I'm comfortable leaving the article as "Fugees", unless more examples can be provided to indicate otherwise. Very strange though as "The Jackson 5" are called The Jackson Five via Wikipedia and many album covers have them as "Jackson 5". I am unsure at this time. An argument can be made for both cases and I'm interested in hearing both but at this time I'm okay leaving them as Fugees Marty2Hotty (talk) 23:06, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Per own discography and secondary sources (RS, Billboard). Neodop (talk) 13:20, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose – There are several reliable sources that refer to the group as The Fugees, with the official video listing on Vevo probably being the most notable, but the number of sources that simply reference Fugees is much more overwhelming, including recently published sources such as these: 1 and 2. It is also clear from album covers that Fugees is more common. Per WP:COMMONNAME, we should stick with that for the article title and leave the alternate name The Fugees in the opening sentence of the lead like it is now. --GoneIn60 (talk) 01:45, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

No mention of John Forté?
Shouldn't there be some mention of him? Liquidmetalrob (talk) 16:00, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

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Faust (1994 film)

Faust (Lekce Faust) is a 1994 live-action/animated film directed and written by Jan Švankmajer. An international co-production between the Czech Republic, France, the United Kingdom, the United States and Germany, the film merges live-action footage with stop-motion animation, including puppetry and claymation.

Produced by Jaromír Kallista, the film does not relate the legend of Faustus accurately according to the original, instead borrowing and blending elements from the plays by Goethe (1808–1832), and Marlowe (c. 1592–1593), with traditional folk renditions. It has elements of modernism and absurdism, and has a Kafkaesque atmosphere, enhanced by being set in Prague. The tone is dark, but humorous. The film was selected as the Czech entry for the Best Foreign Language Film at the 67th Academy Awards, but was not accepted as a nominee.

Plot
The story begins on the streets of Prague on a grey morning busy with commuters. A colourless figure (Petr Čepek) emerges from a metro station. On his way home, the man encounters two men handing out flyers. It is a map of the city with a location marked. He shrugs and discards it, returning to his lodging. As he opens the door, a black cockerel runs out. The man sits down to eat, cutting himself a slice of bread. He discovers an egg concealed inside the loaf. He cracks it open but it is empty. Suddenly the lights go out and the wind rises. Objects are thrown about the room. The commotion ceases; the man goes to the window and looks down to where the two men from earlier are staring up at him. One of them holds the cockerel. The man closes the blind and returns to the table, where he finds the map and traces out the location marked using his own map of the city,.

The next day, he goes to the spot indicated and enters a dilapidated building just as a man rushes from it in fear. He continues into the interior and descends to a dressing room, where he finds a charred script, a robe embroidered with sigils, greasepaint, a wig with a beard and a cap. Sitting down, he addresses himself as "Faust" and speaks to himself (the first words spoken in the film) Faust's opening declaration of intent to follow black magic.

As the opening curtain is signalled, Faust finds himself on a stage, a performance about to begin. Ripping off his costume, he breaks through the stage backdrop into a vault where an alchemist's laboratory is revealed; with the aid of a book of spells, he brings to life a clay child which grows horrifyingly into his own image before he smashes it. Warned by a marionette angel not to experiment further but encouraged by a demon to do as he pleases, he is sent by a wooden messenger to a café meeting with the two street-map men, identified as "Cornelius" and "Valdes", who gives him a briefcase of magical devices. Returning to the vault, he uses these to summon Mephisto, offering Lucifer his soul in return for 24 years of self-indulgence.

At another café, Faust is entertained by Cornelius and Valdes, who provide a fountain of wine from a table-top. He watches as a tramp, carrying a severed human leg, is pestered by a large black dog until he throws the limb into the river. Faust finds a key in his food, uses it on a shop-front shutter, and is dragged back on stage by waiting stagehands. He mimes a scene from Gounod's opera, in which Mephisto returns and the pact with Lucifer is signed in blood. After the interval, Faust visits Portugal to demonstrate his supernatural powers to the King: when a requested restaging of the David and Goliath contest is poorly received, he drowns the entire Portuguese court.

Faust is distracted from repentance by Helen of Troy, whom he seduces before realising she is a wooden demon in disguise. Lucifer arrives earlier than expected to claim his soul, and Faust rushes in panic from the theatre, meeting a newcomer in at the doorway as he bursts into the street. He is felled by a red car, and Cornelius and Valdes watch in amusement as a tramp carries away a severed leg from the scene of the accident. A policeman checks the car, but it is without a driver.

Cast

 * Petr Čepek – Faust
 * Jan Kraus – Cornelius
 * Vladimír Kudla – Waldes
 * Antonin Zacpal – Old man
 * Jiří Suchý – Kašpar
 * Andrew Sachs - All voices in the English dub

Production
The film is Švankmajer's second feature. It was shot in the Old Town of Prague.

Reception
Faust received positive reviews from critics. On review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, it has a 73% score based on 11 reviews, with an average rating of 6.80/10.

Accolades
The film was screened at the Un Certain Regard section of the 1994 Cannes Film Festival, and at the 4th Kecskemét Animation Film Festival where it won the Award of Adult Audience. It also won the Czech Critics Award for Best Animated Film, and three Czech Lions, while it was nominated for four more. At the 29th Karlovy Vary International Film Festival, it was nominated for the Crystal Globe and won the Special Jury Prize.

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Mississippi (disambiguation)

Mississippi is a state of the United States of America.

Mississippi may also refer to:

Places

 * Mississippi River, a river in central United States
 * Mississippi River System, a system of rivers in the Mississippi River watershed
 * Mississippi River (Ontario), a river in Eastern Ontario, Canada
 * Mississippi Lake, a lake in Ontario, Canada
 * Mississippi Territory, a former territory of the United States
 * Republic of Mississippi, a former republic of the Confederate States of America
 * Mississippi-in-Africa, a former settler colony of ex-slaves in West Africa
 * Mississippi County, Arkansas
 * Mississippi County, Missouri

Film and television

 * Mississippi (film), a 1935 musical starring W. C. Fields and Bing Crosby
 * The Mississippi (TV series), a 1983–84 TV series starring Ralph Waite

Music

 * Mississippi: The Album, a 2003 album by David Banner
 * Mississippi (band) an Australian rock band active 1970–75

Songs

 * "M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I", a 1916 song written by Bert Hanlon and Ben Ryan, performed and recorded by Red Foley in 1949
 * "Mississippi Goddam", a 1964 song by Nina Simone
 * "Mississippi", a 1970 recording by John Phillips
 * "Mississippi" (Pussycat song), 1975
 * "Mississippi" (Charlie Daniels song), 1979
 * "Mississippi", a 1996 song by Paula Cole from the album This Fire
 * "Mississippi", a 2001 song by Train from the album Drops of Jupiter
 * "Mississippi" (Bob Dylan song), 2001
 * "Mississippi", a 2017 song by Jamie Lenman from the album Devolver

Schools

 * Mississippi College, based in Clinton, Mississippi
 * Mississippi State University, located adjacent to Starkville, Mississippi
 * University of Mississippi, located adjacent to Oxford, Mississippi

Ships

 * Mississippi-class battleship, two ships of the United States Navy in the early 20th century
 * CSS Mississippi, a projected ironclad of the Confederate States Navy during the American Civil War
 * MV Mississippi, a diesel towboat completed in 1993
 * SS Mississippi, several steamships in use circa 1862–1931
 * USS Mississippi, several ships of United States Navy since 1841

Other uses

 * Mississippi, the word used in a counting sequence (e.g. one Mississippi, two Mississippi, etc.) to approximately measure a number of seconds, such as in American street football
 * Mississippian culture, a Native American civilization from 800 CE to 1600 CE

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Talk:Book of Ezekiel

The name of G-d in the Book of Ezekiel
Sadly there is an edit-'debate' in progress over whether to use the English noun 'God' or the (transliterated) name 'Yahweh' in this article. (Apologies to my Jewish friends who might wish us to be more cautious in writing either, but this is an encyclopedia for everyone.) I can see arguments both ways, reflecting normal non-specialist English usage on one hand and fidelity to Ezekiel's text on the other. The editors in question may have other reasons besides.

Might I humbly invite the participants to sheath their pens and instead develop on this page a section for the article addressing the, to my mind at least, interesting way in which the book refers to the Divinity. The noun 'God' (Elohim) is seldom used; ordinarily the prophet uses the tetragrammaton, traditionally rendered 'LORD' in our English translations, sometimes transliterated 'Yahweh' (formerly 'Jehovah'). Often he uses the composite 'Lord (Adonai) + the tetragrammaton', rendered 'Lord GOD'. I believe it would be a valuable addition to this page to summarise the understandings that have arisen in traditional Judaism and in conservative and higher-critical Christianity as to the significance of this useage.

Pax editoribus bonae voluntatis! .John M Brear (talk) 15:28, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Going by precedent, other articles referring specifically to YHWH are allowed to use a form of that name, rather than the generic / Germanic name 'God' that is actually applied to many other concepts of deity as well, and the question has already been raised that is bigger than just this one article. The objection may come from some sects that insist on using a non-Hebrew name for the Hebrew God, for some doctrinal reasons. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 15:04, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

 * John Brear, thanks for suggesting this discussion. And I wasn't really trying to edit war, but to "vote." Better to discuss, as it turns out.
 * My point is readability. I would rather, unless there's some underlying point to be made, local Yahweh vs universal God, to use the word "God" in a normal Biblical or theological discussion.
 * Disclosure: I am Catholic.
 * I generally use the KJV for citations, unless (again) there's some point to make about a specific translation or religion which uses another translation. KJ uses "God" . My Catholic Reference Bible does as well. I'm sure there are dozens of versions that don't. But "God" is, IMO, "common usage" for most books of the Bible. Student7 (talk) 16:32, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This is a special case because while it is a commonly accepted usage, it is also commonly accepted usage for a host of other concepts of divinity, that often differ dramatically from the YHWH of the Hebrew Bible and Ezekiel. Specifying YHWH as per the text is surely an improvement over the generic term, being more precise. And if I'm not mistaken, the Vatican is the major significant party to restrict usage of the Hebrew term among themselves, in favor of non-Hebrew names, for some doctrine of theirs of papal infallibility. I don't see that as an overriding reason not to use the more specific Hebrew name where it is more appropriate.  However I agree with John that use of the name YHWH for God in Ezekiel can be more fully explained in a section of text. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 18:22, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Just wanted to point out: I have no problem mentioning that the tetragrammaton is the name used here, but I think there is no need to constantly repeat the name. As Student7 said, using "God" improves readability. Keep in mind, we are not translating the text but simply explaining it. If as you said, the Hebrew word "Elohim" is not used in Ezekiel, then there is no point in repeating the tetragrammaton when it is enough to simply say that that is the name that is used for G-d in this text. If you mention that the tetragrammaton is the name used throughout the book, then it is clear that any reference to "God" was the tetragrammaton in the original Hebrew. If you still disagree and want to be that "true to the text", then you're better off just replacing the article with the original Hebrew. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 19:43, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

 * I count 3 for "God", one against. For an article that seems to be "consensus." I was not aware of having been inspired by the "Vatican." I also attend Protestant services where "God" is almost always used, except in a manner to try to keep the audience's attention (awake?). Was the King James Version "Vatican inspired"? Seems doubtful. While the current Pope does happen to speak German as his first language, he's the first German in 400 years. Most of the rest spoke Italian. Dio?
 * I'm sure the editors, being well-educated, are also well aware that English has Anglo-Saxon (ancient German) as it's basis, with a few tens of thousands of French words thrown in. We don't generally use Hebrew except for some deliberate purpose. Better readability. Student7 (talk) 20:55, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It seemed we were coming to a compromise solution, but John Brear's opening remarks should not be interpreted or oversimplified as "3 for God, one against" (!) to just start edit warring again. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 18:24, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

 * I totally agree with Wikitiki89, and he expressed it better than I would have. --Musdan77 (talk) 20:51, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well now it's 3-1. John Brear does not express a strong opinion in either direction based on his one and only post here. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 02:51, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * User:Wikitiki89, this started out as a promising and respectful discussion, but your agressive edit warring during the discission is uncalled for and will be followed up with an RFC if it continues. I see you claiming in an edit summary that your reasons are "better than" mine.  But other than this premature chest thumping assertion that you won the debate, I don't see where any of your actual responses ARE "better than" the points I raised, or where you have bothered to address any of them, other than wait for another respondent to say "me too" without giving any valid argument. This is not a vote, this began and still remains a discussion to find a way to tweak the wording that would hopefully be acceptable to everyone. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 06:15, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I think you may have misunderstood my edit summary. I did not mean my reasons were better than yours but that my newer reasons were better than my original reason. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 02:18, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, sorry for my misperceiving that ambiguity, but anyway since representations of the more specific deity name is in common usage in English alongside a more generic term, I still haven't seen what the prevailing argument against using the more specific name is. It makes sense to specify "Yahweh", "Marduk" etc. otherwise one might try to argue that we should use "God" instead of "Marduk" as well for the same reasons you give. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 22:44, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

What on earth is all the fuss for? I suggest that most readers won't understand this word Yahweh; therefore, if you must use it, it needs explaining, at least the first time it's used. I suppose there's a case to be made for using Yahweh wherever the text of Ezekiel uses it - but checking up all the instances would tax my patience beyond breaking point. Or else, where Professor Bloggs (our hypothetical source) uses Yaheh, we use Yahweh, and where he says God we say God. (We should of course be basing all our edits on Professor Bloggs and his colleagues, never directly on Ezekiel himself, since Bloggs, not we, is the expert and reliable source). PiCo (talk) 08:42, 29 December 2012 (UTC) (Just to clarify, I'm pretty much agreeing with the merry Til Eul. - not something you see every day). PiCo (talk) 08:45, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that our article should NOT use the word "God" where Ezekiel uses "YHWH". The reason is to do with the theology of the book itself: Ezekiel is an intensely patriotic work, written to rally the exiled Jews and remind them of the glory of their kingdom and the promise made to them by their God. That god, whose name was Yahweh, was not anyone else's god - NOT, unlike the Christian God, the sole deity of the entire world. Ezekiel was quite happy to see the Babylonians worshiping Marduk; he might have regarded Marduk as a wicked and evil god, but or he might even have regarded him as a delusion, but he certainly didn't think that the Babylonians needed to start worshiping YHWH. YHWH was the God of Israel alone - that's a major theological difference from what we mean when we say "God". PiCo (talk) 08:55, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

 * I don't see what this "difference" is. "God" in this context can also refer to the G-d of Israel alone, since that is the way Israelites view him. Just like it needs no explanation that "God" does not refer to Vishnu, it's not misleading to use "God" to mean the tetragrammaton as long as we explain that in this book that is who it refers to. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 02:18, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

 * The difference is that the word God (with a capital) means, for us, a single supernatural entity, albeit with three "persons" (if we're Christians - not if we're Jews or Muslims). That entity has certain qualities: he's all-powerful, he's the sole god of all the world, he created the universe from nothing, etc etc. The YHWH of Ezekiel wasn't like that at all. He was one of many gods, including Marduk and others. He was more powerful than those gods, but he wasn't the god of all the world (he helped only Israel),and he hadn't created the world from nothing (he formed it for human habitation, but he didn't create it out of nothing). I imagine this difference is the reason so many commentators use Yahweh instead.

 * Incidentally, please stop reverting Til - you were the one who introduced a change to the article, then it got reverted, so the next step is to discuss, not to get into a reversion competition. Heed the wise words of Mr Brear, who started this thread. (Even more incidentally, in case you think I'm a mate of Til's, I'm not - he can't stand me. But sometimes we agree).PiCo (talk) 03:12, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Jehovah or Yahweh, Yahwah, Yahawah, Yahovah, Yaheveh, Yehaweh, Yehowah, Yehowih, Yehwih, Yahuweh, Yahueh, Yahuah
In the Hebrew language, God's personal name is written יְהוָ֑ה. These four letters, called the Tetragrammaton, are read from right to left in Hebrew and can be represented in many modern languages as YHWH or JHVH. God's name, represented by these four consonants, appears almost seven thousand times in the original "Old Testament," or Hebrew Scriptures.

In English, the Tetragrammaton is translated “Jehovah”. Here's how it's translated in many other languages -

As such, I propose that, especially in articles written in English, as is this article, "Jehovah" be used as God's proper name. —Maxximiliann  talk  14:51, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Despite what you've provided here (from the Jehovah's Witnesses' brochure, The Divine Name That Will Endure Forever, page 6), Yahweh is more common in scholarly literature..-- Jeffro 77 (talk) 14:52, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * So you're saying the facts presented are erroneous, how exactly? —Maxximiliann   talk  19:23, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * This is entirely inappropriate here as a Wikipedia-wide change is being requested. Dougweller (talk) 21:06, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * What specific Wikipedia policy is such a suggestion in violation of? —Maxximiliann   talk  02:31, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * This Talk page is for discussion about changes to this article. It isn't for suggesting changes to all articles that use a particular word. You should direct your request to the relevant WikiProject. Dougweller already started a section at the Bible WikiProject for you, but you just kept responding with irrelevant rhetoric there, which won't help your argument one bit.-- Jeffro 77 (talk) 02:57, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Better "rhetoric" than the vitriolic ravings of a renowned bigot, hey Jeffro? Given how quickly your notoriety is spreading I guess your ousting is just a question of when :) —Maxximiliann   talk  05:14, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Your latest personal attack has been reported. You really should read WP:CONCENSUS and WP:TALK.-- Jeffro 77 (talk) 10:51, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * (I've moved this back to the bottom of the page. Maxximiliann, please read WP:TOPPOST regarding this change.)-- Jeffro 77 (talk) 00:24, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * After a discussion at WP:ANI Maxximiliann was blocked as WP:NOTHERE and WP:DE. Dougweller (talk) 11:09, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Two versions of this work?
So, if I am reading this correctly, there are two versions of this work, the longer version being the one that appears in the Masoretic text, and the shorter being the version that appears in the Septuagint. I think much more needs to be said of this. For one thing, is the Septuagint version simply shorter, or is it shorter and different? In other words, would it be accurate to say that everything that is in the Septuagint version is also in the Masoretic version, but that not everything that is in the Masoretic version is in the Septuagint? Or, are there some portions that are completely unique from one another? For another thing, what about English translations of this work? Do English translations tend to follow the Masoretic version or the version from the Septuagint? Might English translations have tended toward being of one version in the past while changing to being of the other later? Or, might different denominations perhaps prefer one over the other? (E.g., might Protestants prefer translations from the Masoretic version, and might Catholics prefer translations from the Septuagint?) So many questions. This article could definitely be improved with some added information. allixpeeke (talk) 10:28, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Lamentations
This article says that Ezekiel follows Isaiah and Jeremiah, but should it not say that it follows the Lamentations of Jeremiah? Vorbee (talk) 21:16, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Christian bible?
Is Book of Ezekiel part of the Christian bible? I thought it was, but don't see anything about that in the article. GA-RT-22 (talk) 21:43, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Structure of prophetic books
Just an idea to flesh out something. Under "Structure", it says, "Ezekiel has the broad three-fold structure found in a number of the prophetic books". Which other prophetic books feature this structure/pattern? Skippedstone (talk) 21:00, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Stadium rock

This should probably just redirect to arena rock--Greg K Nicholson 02:41, 2005 Feb 28 (UTC)

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Home Movies (musical)

Home Movies is a one-act musical written by Rosalyn Drexler, with lyrics by Drexler and music by Al Carmines. The musical ran Off-Off-Broadway in 1964 and won the Obie Award, Distinguished Plays and Best Music.

Productions
The original production of Home Movies ran for three weekends, from March 20, 1964 until March 30, 1964 at the Judson Poets' Theater, located at Judson Memorial Church in Greenwich Village. The cast included Al Carmines as Father Shenanigan, Sudie Bond as Vivienne, Fred Herko as Peter Peterouter, and Barbara Ann Teer as Violet.

Actor and comedian Orson Bean produced a second run of the show at the Off-Broadway Provincetown Playhouse, beginning May 11, 1964, and running for 72 performances. Bean had met the show's writer, Rosalyn Drexler, through a school he founded, and accepted an invitation from her to see the show during its original run. He liked it so much he took an option on it the next day and tapped friends to be investors. While this production opened with the same cast as the original, starting May 26 Orson Bean took over the role of Father Shenanigan.

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Laurel Highlands

The Laurel Highlands is a region in southwestern Pennsylvania made up of Fayette County, Somerset County, and Westmoreland County. It has a population of about 600,000 people.

The region is approximately fifty-five miles southeast of Pittsburgh; the Laurel Highlands center on Laurel Hill and Chestnut Ridge of the Allegheny Mountains. The mountains making up the Laurel Highlands are the highest in Pennsylvania, with Mount Davis in Somerset County the highest point in the state at 3213 ft. Because of the elevation, weather in the Laurel Highlands is generally cooler and wetter than in most other parts of the state.

The Laurel Highlands is a popular area for camping, hiking, mountain biking, hunting, whitewater kayaking, trout fishing, wildlife viewing, downhill (and cross-country) skiing, and golf.

Amusement parks and resorts

 * Hidden Valley Resort
 * Idlewild Park and Soak Zone
 * Nemacolin Woodlands
 * Polymath Park
 * Seven Springs Mountain Resort
 * Laurel Mountain
 * Summit Inn Resort

Architecture

 * Fallingwater
 * Kentuck Knob
 * Polymath Park

National parks and historic sites
National Parks UNESCO World Heritage Site
 * Allegheny Portage Railroad
 * Flight 93 National Memorial
 * Fort Necessity
 * Friendship Hill
 * Johnstown Flood National Memorial
 * Fallingwater

Historic Sites
 * Bowman%27s Castle
 * Bushy Run Battlefield
 * Compass Inn
 * Fort Ligonier
 * Hannastown, Pennsylvania
 * Heritage Discovery Center
 * Johnstown Flood Museum
 * Johnstown Inclined Plane
 * National Road
 * Quecreek Mine Rescue
 * Route of the Lincoln Highway
 * Somerset County Courthouse
 * Somerset Historical Center
 * Staple Bend Tunnel
 * Uptown Somerset Historic District
 * Wagner–Ritter House & Garden
 * West Overton, Pennsylvania

Parks and outdoor recreation
State Parks and Forests
 * Forbes State Forest
 * Gallitzin State Forest
 * Keystone State Park
 * Kooser State Park
 * Laurel Hill State Park
 * Laurel Mountain State Park
 * Laurel Ridge State Park
 * Laurel Summit State Park
 * Linn Run State Park
 * Mount Davis (part of Forbes State Forest)
 * Ohiopyle State Park
 * Prince Gallitzin State Park
 * Youghiogheny River

Trails
 * Coal and Coke Trail
 * Ghost Town Trail
 * Great Allegheny Passage
 * Laurel Highlands Hiking Trail (part of Laurel Ridge State Park)
 * Jim Mayer Riverwalk
 * Westmoreland Heritage Trail
 * Five Star Trail

Downhill ski areas

 * Hidden Valley Resort
 * Laurel Mountain Ski Resort
 * Seven Springs Mountain Resort

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Talk:William Longespée the Younger

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Is not "de" a solecism in these names? for "Longespee" is "Longsword" not a manor. This William rented his manors to go on crusade, and sold borough rights to Poole. --Wetman 02:42, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Indeed it is, though an error that seems fairly widespread and dates back to at least the 19th century. I agree that we ought to be consistent about either following along with the erroneous tradition or correcting it, but I don't feel like changing anything absent a fuller survey into the variant usages. Loren Rosen 06:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

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Original research?
The citation at n.7, "Anglo-Norman Poem, H.S. Brit. Mus, Cott. Lib, Julias, A.V", seems to refer to an unpublished manuscript source. The only published copy of the poem (untranslated) I'm aware of is in the appendix to Simon Lloyd, ‘William Longespee II: The Making of an English Crusading Hero. Part II, Nottingham Medieval Studies, 36 (1992): 79–125.

So I'm wondering where the translated passage comes from. Is there a published version in English? Shtove (talk) 19:31, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

 * Printed source for part of the cited material: The Memoirs of the Lord of Joinville, translated by Ethel Wedgwood (121ff.):
 * https://romancatholicworld.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/louis-ix-king-and-saint.pdf Shtove (talk) 17:09, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

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Aharon HaLevi

Aharon ben Joseph haLevi (אהרון הלוי; c. 1235 – c. 1303), known by his Hebrew acronym Ra'AH, was a medieval rabbi, Talmudic scholar and Halakhist.

Aharon haLevi was born in Girona, Catalonia (present-day Spain) in 1235 to his father Joseph haLevi, son of Benveniste haLevi, son of Rabbi Joseph haLevi, who was the son of Rabbi Zerachiah haLevi of Girona Baal Hamaor. Ra'AH's mother Clara was a granddaughter of Aaron of Lunel, who was the son of Meshullam ben Jacob of Lunel.

Aharon haLevi studied under his father Joseph haLevi and brother Pinchas ben Joseph haLevi, as well as Nachmanides, and was a colleague of Shlomo ben Aderet (1235–1310). He published critical notes on the Rashba's Torat HaBayit, which he entitled Bedeq HaBayit. He also wrote a commentary on the Talmud, select parts of which have been published.

Gedaliah ibn Yaḥyah suggested that haLevi might also be the anonymous "Levite of Barcelona" who wrote the Sefer haHinukh, but this theory has been rejected due to discrepancies between opinions expressed, and the authorities cited, in the Bedeq HaBayit and the Hinukh.

Yom Tov Asevilli was one of Aharon HaLevi's students.

Works

 * Bedeq haBayit (Sefaria)
 * Commentaries to Berahot (Sefaria), Sukkah, Beitzah, Taanit, Hullin, Ketubbot, and Avodah Zarah have been printed. The Novellae of Ra'AH to Qiddushin are not his. Some fragments of his Novellae to Pesahim survive in manuscript (link), and others are quoted by Joseph ben Saul Kimhi in Mezuqqaq Shiv'atayim f. 47v-48r.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flavia Pennetta

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep. —Korath (Talk) 17:11, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)

Flavia Pennetta
Found this listed for speedy deletion, but I'm not sure why so I'm relisting it here. No vote at this time. Postdlf 02:43, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Does not establish notability. Delete. -- Brhaspati (talk, contribs) 08:17, 2005 Feb 28 (UTC)

"Keep. Theo (Talk) 23:42, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * she has 3 career titles and hasn't made it past the 3rd round in a Grand Slam, currently no. 25 in the world, she's on the WTA tour- weak keep--nixie 08:27, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Currently ranked 25th in the world. —Brim 17:39, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Done enough to meet my criteria for tennis players in winning 3 WTA tournaments and seven ITF singles tournaments and 9 ITF tournaments. Please see WTA page.
 * Oops that was me. Capitalistroadster 23:10, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Capitalistroadster. —RaD Man (talk) 04:07, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Pantheon Books

Pantheon Books is an American book publishing imprint with editorial independence. It is part of the Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group.

Dan Frank was Editorial Director from 1996 until his death in May 2021. Lisa Lucas joined the imprint in 2020 as Senior Vice President and Publisher.

Overview
Bertelsmann, the German company that also owns Bantam Books, Doubleday Publishing, and Dell Publishing, acquired Random House in 1998, along with its imprints Pantheon Books, Modern Library, Times Books, Everyman's Library, Vintage Books, Crown Publishing Group, Schocken Books, Ballantine Books, Del Rey Books, and Fawcett Publications, making Bertelsmann the largest publisher of American books.

In addition to classics, international fiction, and trade paperbacks, recently Pantheon has moved aggressively into the comics market. It has published many critically acclaimed graphic novels and comics collections, including Ice Haven, La Perdida, Read Yourself RAW, Maus, In the Shadow of No Towers, and Black Hole. Many of its comics publications are high-quality collected editions of works originally serialized by other publishers such as Fantagraphics Books.

History
Pantheon Books was founded in 1942 in New York City by Helen and Kurt Wolff who had come to the United States to escape fascism and the Holocaust. Pantheon is currently part of Bertelsmann. Important early works published by Pantheon were Zen and the Art of Archery by German scholar Eugen Herrigel, the Bollingen series (composed of C. G. Jung's collected works in English and books of noted Jungian scholars), the first complete translation of the I Ching, and Boris Pasternak's Doctor Zhivago.

When Random House bought Alfred A. Knopf in 1960, the front page of the New York Times reported that the merger "united two of the nation's most celebrated publishers of quality writing". The following year, Random House would buy Pantheon, which would be moved into the Knopf Publishing Group. Also in 1961, Pantheon hired André Schiffrin as executive editor of Pantheon Books.

Under the direction of Schiffrin, Pantheon continued to publish important works by European writers such as The Tin Drum by Günter Grass, who would later receive a Nobel Prize for his work; Madness and Civilization by Michel Foucault, The Lover by Marguerite Duras, and Adieux by Simone de Beauvoir. By the late 1960s, Pantheon started to bring American writers such as Noam Chomsky, James Loewen and Studs Terkel to European readers. In 1965, RCA bought Random House. Throughout the 1970s, Pantheon continued to publish intellectual and often leftist works of fiction and nonfiction "without a profit-and-loss sheet in sight". In other words, Pantheon editors prided themselves on subsidizing the cost of publishing less commercially successful (but socially or intellectually important) works with the profits from more commercially successful books.

In 1980, RCA sold Random House to Samuel Irving Newhouse, Jr., and Pantheon Books came under pressure to increase profits.

In early 2009, long-time Pantheon publisher Janice Goldklang was laid off as part of a general restructuring of Random House and its publishing divisions.

Controversies
Pantheon and Random House, which at the time was owned by SI Newhouse, were plagued with controversy throughout the late 1980s and early 1990s. In December 1989, Alberto Vitale, a former banker, replaced Robert L. Berstein as chairman and president of Random House. In February 1990, Schiffrin was "asked to resign after he refused to reduce the number of titles published [by Pantheon] or to trim Pantheon's 30-member staff". In protest at Schiffrin's forced resignation and other changes in staffing, such as the hiring of Erroll McDonald, editors and staff Tom Engelhardt, Wendy Wolf, Sara Bershtel, Jim Peck, Susan Rabiner, David Sternbach, Helena Franklin, Diane Wachtell, Gay Salisbury, and several others resigned in the following months. Authors of books published by Pantheon, Random House, and other related imprints, including Studs Terkel, Kurt Vonnegut Jr., Princeton historian Arno Mayer, and Barbara Ehrenreich, held a protest outside Random House in March 1990 during which they argued that the termination of Schiffrin amounted to corporate censorship of the books that would not be printed without him. Novelist E. L. Doctorow used his acceptance speech for a fiction prize at the March 1990 National Book Critics Circle award ceremony to criticize Random House for ousting Schiffrin.

In the week following the protests, 40 Random House editors and publishers signed a statement that defended the personnel changes at Pantheon, stating: "like Pantheon, we abhor corporate censorship. We have never experienced it, nor do we believe that Pantheon has ever experienced it. We would not tolerate censorship of any form, and we are offended by any suggestion to the contrary. But, unlike Pantheon, we have preserved our independence and the independence of our authors by supporting the integrity of our publishing programs with fiscal responsibility". Another supporter of Schiffrin's termination wrote that the protests and resignations were "a hilarious specimen of people intoxicated by self-importance. It also is a case study of the descent of intellectuals' leftism into burlesque".

In 1998, Random House made news again when it was bought by Bertelsmann. The Authors Guild approached the Fair Trade Commission, arguing that "the $1.4 billion acquisition of Random House by Bantam's parent, Bertelsmann AG, the German media conglomerate, would create a "new economic behemoth" with the potential to restrict readers' choices and authors' ability to market their works". Bertelsmann was allowed to make the purchase, however, making it the largest publisher of English-language trade books. Again, Schiffrin protested, noting that in the eight years since Random House had come under the direction of Vitale, "Random House's 'high end'—the literary translations and books of criticism, cultural history and political analysis that had built the reputation of the Knopf and Pantheon imprints—were being sacrificed" and that concerns for the "bottom line" would outweigh intellectual and social concerns.

Schiffrin published a memoir in 2000, in which he explains his side of the controversies surrounding Pantheon and Random House called The Business of Books: How International Conglomerates Took Over Publishing and Changed the Way We Read, in which he accused Vitale and those with money-making interests of homogenizing the publishing industry by focusing too much on profits, and warns: "the resulting control on the spread of ideas is stricter than anyone would have thought possible in a free society". In a 2003 interview, former Pantheon editor Tom Engelhardt reflects on the Pantheon controversy in light of the acquisition by Bertelsmann: "Pantheon was a very specific place, publishing a very specific kind of book, and we felt that was being wiped out. As it turned out, what happened at Pantheon was the beginning of the gargantuan feasting on the independent publishing house and not-so-independent houses as well."

Pantheon today
Pantheon continues to publish well-respected fiction and non-fiction, and has more recently expanded further into graphic novels. Pantheon re-issued books in the graphic-based "...For Beginners" series (originally published by Writers and Readers Cooperative) in the 1970s and 1980s; deciding to bring the series back in 2003.

One of the first original graphic novels Pantheon published was the highly acclaimed Maus: A Survivor's Tale by Art Spiegelman in 1986. Spiegelman has become somewhat of a comics consultant, advising editor-in-chief Dan Frank. Another key member of the Pantheon Graphic Novels team is graphic designer Chip Kidd.

In 2000, Pantheon published The Acme Novelty Library by Chris Ware. In 2005, Pantheon published The Rabbi's Cat, a graphic novel by Joann Sfar that "tells the wholly unique story of a rabbi, his daughter, and their talking cat". Notable cartoonists whose graphic novels have been published by Pantheon include Spiegelman, Ware, Dan Clowes, Charles Burns, Ben Katchor, Marjane Satrapi, and David Mazzucchelli.

Literature and criticism

 * Force and Freedom: Reflections on History by Jacob Burckhardt (1943)
 * The World is Not Enough by Zoé Oldenbourg (1948)
 * The Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell (1949)
 * The I Ching; or, Book of Changes translated by Richard Wilhelm and Cary F. Baynes (1950). Contains an extensive Introduction by Carl Jung. Originally issued in two volumes – subsequently in one volume.
 * Winds by Saint-John Perse (1953)
 * The Collected Works of Paul Valéry in English, 15 Volumes and Bibliography, Bollingen Series XLV, General Editor Jackson Mathews, Various Translators, Published by Pantheon Books, New York. Volume One issued in 1956, with later volumes following in the ensuing years.
 * Doctor Zhivago by Boris Pasternak (first published in 1957; later published in 1959)
 * The Tin Drum by Günter Grass (1963)
 * Madness and Civilization: A History of Insanity in the Age of Reason by Michel Foucault (1965)
 * Division Street: America by Studs Terkel (1967)
 * American Power and the New Mandarins by Noam Chomsky (1969)
 * At War with Asia by Noam Chomsky (1970)
 * Hard Times: An Oral History of the Great Depression by Studs Terkel (1970)
 * The Order of Things: An Archaeology of the Human Sciences by Michel Foucault (1970)
 * Problems of Knowledge and Freedom by Noam Chomsky (1971)
 * The Archaeology of Knowledge by Michel Foucault (1972)
 * For Reasons of State by Noam Chomsky (1973)
 * Peace in the Middle East: Reflections on Justice and Nationhood by Noam Chomsky (1974)
 * Working: People Talk About What They Do All Day and How They Feel About What They Do by Studs Terkel (1974)
 * Mississippi: Conflict & Change by James Loewen and Charles Sallis (1974)
 * Reflections on Language by Noam Chomsky (1975)
 * Sound Effects: Youth, Leisure, and the Politics of Rock'n'Roll by Simon Frith (1981)
 * When Things of the Spirit Come First: Five Early Tales by Simone de Beauvoir (1982)
 * The Empire's Old Clothes: What the Lone Ranger, Babar, and Other Innocent Heroes Do to Our Minds by Ariel Dorfman (1983)
 * Adieux: A Farewell to Sartre by Simone de Beauvoir (1984)
 * After The Second Sex: Conversations with Simone de Beauvoir by Alice Schwarzer and Simone de Beauvoir (1984)
 * The Lover by Marguerite Duras (1985)
 * Women Writing About Men by Jane Miller (1986)
 * The Woman Destroyed by Simone de Beauvoir (1987)
 * The Sadeian Woman and the Ideology of Pornography by Angela Carter (1988)
 * Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky
 * The Death of Rhythm & Blues by Nelson George (1988)
 * On Record: Rock, Pop, and the Written Word by Simon Frith and Andrew Goodwin (1990)
 * Stop the Violence: Overcoming Self Destruction by Nelson George (1990)
 * The Book of Disquiet by Fernando Pessoa (1991)
 * Felix: The Twisted Tale of the World's Most Famous Cat by John Canemaker (1991)
 * Rhythm Oil: A Journey Through the Music of the American South by Stanely Booth (1991)
 * Pasolini Requiem by Barth D. Schwartz (1992)
 * Einstein's Dreams by Alan Lightman (1993)
 * The Birth of the Beat Generation: Visionaries, Rebels, and Hipsters, 1944–1960 by Steven Watson (1995)
 * Deep Sightings and Rescue Missions: Fiction, Essays, and Conversations by Toni Cade Bambara and Toni Morrison (1996)
 * In the Country of Country: People and Places in American Music by Nicholas Dawidoff (1997)
 * Holy Clues: Investigating Life's Mysteries with Sherlock Holmes by Stephen Kendrick (1999)
 * House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski (2000)
 * The Whalestoe Letters by Mark Z. Danielewski (2000)
 * Parallels and Paradoxes: Explorations in Music and Society by Daniel Barenboim, Edward W. Said, and Ara Guzelimian (2002)
 * Boogaloo: The Quintessence of American Popular Music by Arthur Kempton (2003)
 * Against Love: A Polemic by Laura Kipnis (2003)
 * The End of Blackness: Returning the Souls of Black Folk to Their Rightful Owners by Debra Dickerson (2004)
 * Give our Regards to the Atomsmashers! Writers on Comics by Sean Howe (2004)
 * Shakespeare After All by Marjorie B. Garber (2004)
 * Tango: The Art History of Love by Robert Farris Thompson (2005)
 * On Michael Jackson by Margo Jefferson (2006)
 * Only Revolutions by Mark Z. Danielewski (2006)
 * The Good Husband of Zebra Drive by Alexander McCall Smith (2007)
 * The Little Book of Plagiarism by Alexander Posner (2007)
 * Bambi vs. Godzilla: On the Nature, Purpose, and Practice of the Movie Business by David Mamet (2007)
 * Toussaint Louverture: A Biography by Madison Smartt Bell (2007)
 * The Father of all Things: A Marine, His Son, and the Legacy of Vietnam by Tom Bissell (2007)
 * Soon I Will Be Invincible by Austin Grossman (2007)
 * SUM by David Eagleman (2009)
 * Incognito: The Secret Lives of the Brain by David Eagleman (2011)
 * The Accidental Universe by Alan Lightman (2014)
 * The Familiar, Volume 1: One Rainy Day in May by Mark Z. Danielewski (2015)
 * The Familiar, Volume 2: Into the Forest by Mark Z. Danielewski (2015)
 * The Brain: The Story of You by David Eagleman (2015)
 * The Familiar, Volume 3: Honeysuckle & Pain by Mark Z. Danielewski (2016)
 * The Familiar, Volume 4: Hades by Mark Z. Danielewski (2017)
 * The Familiar, Volume 5: Redwood by Mark Z. Danielewski (2017)
 * Livewired: The Inside Story of the Ever-Changing Brain by David Eagleman (2020)

Selections from the Bollingen Series

 * Myths and Symbols in Indian Art and Civilization, eds. Heinrich Robert Zimmer and Joseph Campbell (1946)
 * The I Ching or Book of Changes, Wilhelm, R., and C. Baynes, 1967. With foreword by Carl Jung. 3rd ed., Bollingen Series XIX. Princeton NJ: Princeton University Press (1st ed. 1950).
 * The Collected Works of C.G. Jung by Carl Jung (1953)
 * Psychological Reflections: An Anthology of the Writings of C.G. Jung by Carl Jung(1953)
 * Creative Intuition in Art and Poetry by Jacques Maritain (1953)
 * Egyptian Religious Texts and Representations by Alexandre Piankoff and Natacha Rambova (1954)
 * The Origins and History of Consciousness by Erich Neumann (1954)
 * Painting and Reality by Étienne Gilson (1957)
 * Yoga: Immortality and Freedom by Mircea Eliade (1958)
 * Zen and Japanese Culture by Daisetz Teitaro Suzuki (1959)
 * Art and Illusion: A Study in the Psychology of Pictorial Representation by E. H. Gombrich (1960)
 * Of Divers Arts by Naum Gabo (1962)
 * The "I" and the "Not-I": A Study in the Development of Consciousness by Mary Esther Harding (1965)
 * Birds by Saint-John Perse and Georges Braque (1966)
 * Eleusis: Archetypal Image of Mother and Daughter by Karl Kerényi (1967)

Comics and graphic novels

 * The "...for Beginners" series of comics:
 * Go for Beginners by Kaoru Iwamoto and Ishi Press (1976) ISBN 0394733312
 * Lenin for Beginners by Richard Appignanesi and Oscar Zarate (1978)
 * Freud for Beginners by Richard Appignanesi and Oscar Zarate (1979)
 * Trotsky for Beginners by Tariq Ali (1980)
 * Ecology for Beginners by Stephen Croall and William Rankin (1981)
 * Marx's Kapital for Beginners by David N. Smith, and Phil Evans, and Karl Marx (1982)
 * Nuclear Power for Beginners by Stephen Croall and Kaianders Sempler (1983)
 * Economists for Beginners by Bernard Canavan (1983)
 * Love is Hell by Matt Groening (1985)
 * Maus I: A Survivor's Tale: My Father Bleeds History by Art Spiegelman (1986)
 * Read Yourself RAW by Art Spiegelman and Françoise Mouly (1987)
 * School is Hell: A Cartoon Book by Matt Groening (1987)
 * Childhood is Hell: A Cartoon Book by Matt Groening (1988)
 * The Big Book of Hell: A Cartoon Book by Matt Groening (1990)
 * Maus II: A Survivor's Tale: And Here My Troubles Began by Art Spiegelman (1991)
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Suggested sources
The following medical textbooks seem to be good sources for some parts of this article:

At least one relevant page is visible at books.google.com for each possible source. The major advantage of using a modern textbook is that you can be sure that whatever is written not just the perspective of a single author; they represent the general opinion of mainstream medical experts. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Can someone review the changes (deleted links and references) by WhatamIdoing?? She/He constantly removes anything I add that would undermine the delirious optimism that surrounds sympathectomy and would warn the prospective patients that there is not evidence regarding safety and efficiency, but there is lot of study regarding adverse effects, which can be devastating and disabling. The removed studies were absolutely valid studies and reviews of the literature published in peer-reviewed journals. The propagation of this procedure that is not fully understood poses a danger to public health and safety and warnings and the controversies surrounding the procedure should be represented on wiki, if one is to have comprehensive picture on the procedure and it's effects. To say cheesy statements how much patients must suffer due to HH and how they are in danger of dehydration is really not necessary, considering that the only study done into post-sympathectomy sweating shows that patients will sweat 43% more! I strongly believe that the edits are to provide a biased and positive picture of the surgery and to encourage people to undergo the procedure. It is highly unethical and I ask that her/his last edits be reviewed and the quality of the deleted references considered. Porcelina81 (talk) 00:47, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Picture captions
The captions for these pictures are in Spanish. Can someone edit them and upload English versions to Wikimedia Commons? Axl ¤  [Talk]  11:09, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Is not Spanish. Probably portuguese.--Garrondo (talk) 11:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Diagnosis
The article doesn't really explain how the condition is diagnosed. Unlike say, Polyuria or high blood cholesterol or whatever it seems to me you can't easily set a limit of what is normal, or measure an abnormal level so I'm wondering how it's done. Nil Einne (talk) 17:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Exercise etc
One thing that's somewhat unclear to me from the article, does primary hyperhidrosis only refer to patients who sweat excessively all the time? Or does it include patients who sweat excessively e.g. when they exercise, in hot weather (i.e. to a level that is unlikely to be necessary to cool the body or that is unlikely to cool the body much faster then a significantly lower level)? One or two references suggested the former (patients who sweat excessively all the time) but the few others I read were unclear. Nil Einne (talk) 17:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ooops I just read this Generalized hyperhidrosis. However it's not clear if this can be a form of primary hyperhidrosis. My guess is yes but the article doesn't say. Nil Einne (talk) 17:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

 * As I understand it, "primary hyperhidrosis" means "I've been sweating my whole life", and "secondary hyperhidrosis" means "this started when I was an adult and is due to some other disease" (like menopause or cancer). Which parts of the body/how much sweat is produced isn't relevant to the distinction between primary and secondary.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:49, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Verbatim; and very far from plain language
T(2)-T(3) ganglionectomy significantly decreases pulse rate and systolic blood pressure, reduces myocardial oxygen demand, increases left ventricular ejection fraction and prolongs Q-T interval.

This sentence has been copied absolutely verbatim from its reference. Even if it is a short sentence; and also referenced; this might be considered a copyright vio. Additionally I do not understand a single word... It is very very far from plain language (Non-explained abreviations, no internal links, no explanation on whats the importance of this finding...)

Best regards.--Garrondo (talk) 08:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

 * In translation, it says something like, "Cutting this nerve lowers the heart rate and blood pressure, reduces the heart's interest in oxygen, increases the amount of blood pumped out, and changes the squiggles on the EKG."
 * I agree that it's a possible copyvio problem, and it simply doesn't belong in this article. It's about a surgery, not about excessive sweating.  Please feel free to remove it.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

(Very) low quality refs for a (very) strong statement
The following statement "For these reasons the surgery should not be recommended" is from my point of view very very strong: it is not saying that there may be some controversy, however big or small it truly is, on the use of surgery; but that it should NEVER be recommended. Such an statament first of all is to close to a "how to guide" (Wikipedia does not make recommendations, not for patients, not for physicians). Secondly non of the 3 refs provided explicitily say such a thing. Finally (but most important) the 3 refs are of VERY low quality: Ref1 is an article in french published in 1966. The second one was written in 1980 (also quite old; this would be reason enough to not consider it a reliable source); but nevertheless the conclussion (at least in the abstract) is quite different: Serious sexual complications caused by lumbar sympathectomy alone seem relatively rare and should only preclude its use in young men wishing to reproduce. Finally the last ref is from a non peer-reviewed internet journal studing sympathectomy for a different disease and nevertheless it never says that it should not be recommended.

I am going to eliminate the sentence with its references.--Garrondo (talk) 14:49, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned ref
I move here the only ref that was not inline so it may be reintegrated:
 * Abraham P, Berthelot J, Victor J, Saumet JL, Picquet J, Enon B (December 2002). "Holter changes resulting from right-sided and bilateral infrastellate upper thoracic sympathectomy". Ann. Thorac. Surg. 74 (6): 2076–81..

--Garrondo (talk) 08:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Sweating Excessively
Addition by Darlene M. Simonds has been eliminated since it was not related to improving the article.--Garrondo (talk) 14:50, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

 * I am really sorry for your complicated history, and wish you best luck. Nevertheless talk pages are aimed to improve wikipedia articles and make them more encyclopedic, accurate and complete. Since what you have written is a personal story, with no relationship to the encyclopedia, and which in addition gives names of living professionals I have to eliminate it. You will be most welcome to cooperate in improving this article using reliable sources. Would you have any questions you can ask them here or at my talk page. Bests regards.--Garrondo (talk) 14:50, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Last additions on surgical procedures
In the following edition a lot of dubious content was added by a non registered user. It sounds much like advertising (giving names of specific doctors and clinics where the procedure is done, giving info on how revolutionary it is...), but it may have some truth in it... However no references were provided and since it is about a surgical procedure such claims can not be held without high quality sources supporting them. I have eliminated some info which sounded like a how to guide, and tagged for refs all the other. If no references are provided I will eliminate all content in a few days. Bests. --Garrondo (talk) 19:08, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Prognosis?
The prognosis section doesn't actually seem to include anything about prognoses regarding patients with the condition, but just social/emotional affects of the disorder (the effects of the disorder [more symptamatic] as opposed to the possible outcomes/likelihood of resolution after treatments or lack thereof [what would be a prognosis]). I have removed that heading from that section. Can someone provide sourced prognosis information so we can re-add that heading? BcNARApix (talk) 16:00, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned article (another one) but may be this time it is an erroneous page that needs to be deleted
I have just inserted a "See also" section, in this Hyperhidrosis article, and put in a reference to Ionotophoresis. Then, I noticed that the main body of the article (Treatments, other) already has a reference to Iontophoresis. The former page is a stub (in its most extreme form), and an orphan; the latter is a substantial article that seems (to me) to cover the former's material completely. I assume, therefore, that the former is a miss-spelt version of the latter, and can be proposed for deletion. However, I am no expert on this, so I had better leave it to someone who is, to perform the Prod operation. TheAMmollusc (talk) 12:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Poor focus on topic; cleanup or cleanup-rewrite?
Reading over this article, it seems to be poorly focused on the condition and more centred around treatments. I feel that it would be better written starting with a summary of the condition before describing the function and action of sweat glands, followed by their activation by the sympathetic nervous system under normal, non-pathological conditions, before describing the changes observed in hyperhidrosis (e.g. profuse sweating, perhaps sympathetic hyperactivity?) and finally discussing treatment options. This reads more like a patient information leaflet than an encyclopaedic article, and while not wising to criticise accessible information for those who suffer diseases, that's not really what wikipedia's for. 192.76.7.211 (talk) 15:36, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

 * That's a reasonable suggestion. However, it isn't really possible to follow your suggestion at the moment because it seems much more is known about treatment options for hyperhidrosis rather than the condition itself. Un1234l 10:11, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Moved advertising-like content
I move here the content on miradry: it sounds a lot as propaganda, and I could not find any articles in pubmed for efficacy or use, and very few in google. I move it here since maybe someone more knowleadgeable of the issue might find it useful to re-include it in the future after improving it, mainly with better sourcing.--Garrondo (talk) 21:05, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

''MiraDry utilises a controlled application of microwave energy through a hand-held unit to heat sweat glands and destroy them through thermolysis. This technique is implicitly non-invasive. Damage to the superficial dermis is prevented through cooling of the external surface of the miraDry unit, localising the heating and cell destruction to the lower, gland-containing strata. Because sweat glands do not regenerate after treatment, the results are lasting.''

Some info on miraDry:
The miraDry System is a non-invasive device indicated by the FDA to treat primary axillary hyperhidrosis. The miraDry System uses a controlled application of microwave energy through a hand-held unit to heat sweat glands and destroy them through a process called thermolysis. (Johnson JE, et al. Lasers Surg Med 2012; 44: 20-25) Sweat glands do not grow back. Multiple clinical studies have been published to date. One study published in the journal Dermatologic Surgery demonstrated over 90 percent efficacy and 90 percent patient satisfaction with an average 82 percent sweat reduction when followed for one year after receiving the procedure. (Hong C-H, et al. Dermatol Surg 2012; 38: 728-735)

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/lsm.21142/abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22452511

Mghurston (talk) 02:51, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

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Ura
Perhaps someone who knows Japanese could add a sentence somewhere regarding the meaning of "Ura" in the expansion pack's title. --69.234.212.59 02:46, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Done! Master Thief GarrettTalk 14:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Release date?
The article mentions a February 18 2003 release date, but I am sure that it was February 16- I walked into Best Buy that morning and reserved The Wind Waker. I have an old issue of Nintendo Power that lists the date, if need be.Pohatu771 15:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

About the Peahats
I know this isalready on this page, but this one is the total opposite, i'm not sure if my version is just special or something, but my version of master quest has peahats in hyrule field (and i know this is in fact master quest because of the title screen and the dungeons are different than the original)....for even more verification, i'm using project 64 and i got the ROM from emuparadise.org, am i just using a wierd version or the right one or is master quest just variating

Merge with Master quest artical
since this is about the master quest game that was released on GameCube should this artical then be merged with the master quest artical?--ZeWrestler 02:04, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Um, well, some fans think Master Quest was just a cheap cop-out to make us all shut up about this lost game. Having said that, both articles are short enough that a merge would be fine. Master Thief GarrettTalk 00:34, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I've merged it now. And moved this talk page too, since it didn't already have one. Master Thief GarrettTalk 00:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Idiots, This shouldn't be merged, it's a different game, Master Quest is on the Gamecube, And Master Quest was a harder version, this article is about the N64 version, they are completely different things.

Calling someone an idiot is no way to win a discussion. Anyways, it should be merged. It is not a completely different game, it is a different version of the same game. Kind of like a Zelda 1.5. Yes, it was on the gamecube, but the same disc that has it on the gamecube, has the original on it too, so there goes your theory. Articles like this are too short to have their own page. It's best that it be merged with the most similar article. Cooltad 11:25, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Im going to say that it shouldn't be merged just because there were some changes (major and not) to the game layout and the difficulty is somewhat higher in Master Quest.Kou Nurasaka 18:10, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

DEFINITELY Merge. There's really no question. This should be a subsection of the OOT article for this game, because it's just a different version of the same game. The changes aren't radical enough to make it a brand new title. --Bishop2 14:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Well It Was On N64 AS A N64DD Witch Was Just An Expansion Of Ocarina Damnimderek 10:37, 24 Jun 2007

it should be merge because Ocarina of Time and Master Quest are the same game except ones the original and the other is an altered version of the original game. by the way, can someone please merge The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Ura with The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time together 67.164.35.55 16:09, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Definitely merge. Similar situation with the of "Link to the past" in 4 Swords, there it also is just mentioned in the main article.

Master Quest on the computer
The following comment was made to explain some recent changes: "'free market' sounds like an acceptable alternative (it isn't, it's illegal)"

In my version, "free market" referred to the emulators and game ROMs that let console games be played on the computer. It is indeed against the letter of law, although whether it is "acceptable" or not is a personal opinion.

What concerns me the most is the inconsistency that some Wikipedia users will inevitably run into in this version of the page. For one thing, the Wikipedia entry for "emulation" doesn't explicitly state the illegal nature of game ROMS. On the contrary: the explanation justifies and emphasizes the usefulness of emulators, while only a passing reference is made to licensing issues of system operating software, ie. BIOS and bootstrap ROMs - nothing about the games themselves.

Wikipedia's justification (see quote below) for the use of game ROMs is perfectly applicable to the N64 emulator that plays Master Quest. The N64, this last dinosaur of cartridge-based systems is no longer sold in stores, neither are games for it readily available in venues other than junk auctions and ebay.

But I digress. The point is consistency. If the use of game ROMs (aka "free market") is OK on one page, the same should be conveyed on another page, especially if they are interlinked, as in this case.

"A popular use of emulators is to run software and games, often referred to as ROMs, written for hardware that is no longer sold or readily available, such as the Commodore 64 or early Amiga models. Emulating these on modern desktop computers is usually less cumbersome than relying on the original machine, which may be inoperational. However, software licensing issues may require emulator authors to write original software that duplicates the functionality of the original computer's bootstrap ROM and BIOS, often through high-level emulation."

I propose the follwing changes in the disputed paragraph: "...due to inaccuracies in Nintendo's emulator. On the other hand, the freely available fan-made emulators handled the games better than Nintendo's own ad-hoc emulator, because they underwent various bug- and compatibility fixes over several years."

The strength of any encyclopedia is that it provides extensive information on any subject without value judgement. There is a ROM version of Master Quest readily available, and it plays better than Nintendo's quick-fix version. This knowledge should be conveyed to the readers, if only for the sake of completeness.

However, I'll just leave the page as is until I hear some opinions. Just fixing some minor typos for now.

Danubius

 * Ah, I see now. It wasn't that the paragraph was wrong, merely that it sounds ambiguous. The important thing to convey to the reader is that "free market" does not mean a "completely free and 100% legal" alternative, like, say, Zelda Classic is of the original Zelda.
 * "...giving access for people who didn't own a GameCube or didn't want to buy ... but had a computer and an N64 emulator."
 * ^^ This sentence said nothing about the fact that this was seen by Nintendo themselves as a smack-on-the-hand no-no, it read like it was merely a cheaper alternative to the purchase, and such a line would no doubt lead readers wondering why any idiot would buy the console and preorder if the PC version was FREE! :) But the changed section you suggest conveys this much better. Sounds fine.
 * I wasn't aware that the emulation page brushed over legality so vaguely, and certainly it sounds very forgiving. I myself have no beef with emulation of dead consoles, but even so it needs to give a mention of the IDSA etc.'s opinion of the matter or something. Most of this can of course be covered on the ROM image page itself, but talk of Bleem! could be especially good. But I digress... :)
 * Slightly off the topic, Nintendo's latest plan is that the Revolution emulate old consoles, so Master Quest will no doubt return in a downloadable format, but it'll be their own one this time. This section will no doubt become very confusing as the three flavours of emulation will each give a subtly different experience. Gah. Master Thief GarrettTalk 05:18, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Okay then, added the info now. :) It's good that you corrected my initial entry; I can see how it could have mislead readers who are unfamiliar with this topic.

 * I agree with you that the emulation page needs to be supplemented with more info. As it is now, the copyright holders' POV is not represented there adequately. About the future: when (if) the Revolution will start emulating older Nintendo consoles, perhaps a separate paragraph on the various versions of MQ could sort out the confusion here. :)

Quick Level Edit/"Cop Out"
This paragraph:
 * Whether Master Quest is actually the end result of the Ura Zelda project or merely a quick level-edit to quiet demands and entice preorders is a matter of debate among fans. One significant piece of evidence against it being Ura Zelda is that ROM rips of the game show the game to be the same number of megabits in size as a standard Ocarina of Time ROM, whereas the original concept was to include content above and beyond what an N64 cartridge could possibly hold. It also did not contain any of the promised additional enemies.

Seems to condradict an earlier paragraph that states that Ura Zelda was never supposed to be anything more than a dungeon layout change. It seems to me that what this paragraph is really saying is that some fans confuse Ura Zelda with Zelda Gaiden, and since they were expecting Zelda Gaiden, and got Ura Zelda, they were dissapointed. Is there any evidence to the contrary?

I'm going to remove this paragraph for now, and if I can find a way to reword it to be more accurate as to the above information, I will (but my early attempts at this haven't gone well, I'll probably just remove it and let someone else rework it if they so desire). Fieari July 8, 2005 19:36 (UTC)

 * Zelda Gaiden was actually the working title for Majora's Mask. I remember reading about it in a gaming magazine once.  The description of what Master Quest was supposed to be sounds an awful lot like what Majora's Mask turned out to be.  Both started out as 64DD expansions to Ocarina of Time but were scrapped for that system, both are larger and more sophisticated than OoT (MM required the N64 Expansion Pak if you recall), both add new items and enemies while modifying existing ones, and both add new areas and dungeons.  The only major difference between the Ura Zelda presumed in this article and the Zelda Gaiden to which you are referring is the belief that it took place in Hyrule, which MM clearly does not, it takes place in an alternate dimension of sorts called Termina.Justin The Claw 19:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't remember where I read this, so I cannot source it, thus I'm not adding it, but I seem to recall Miyamoto saying that UraZelda was going to be amazing and an example he gave was, how, in most games if you're walking in sand, you can walk around for a little bit and leave footprints behind, but those footprints dissappear after a short while. In UraZelda, he planned for those footprints to stay. If you smash a sign in one area and come back to it later, that sign will still be smashed. Things like that.

I am of the opinion that The "Master Quest" isn't everything planned for UraZelda. But that's just my humble opinion... 71.244.180.131

I don't have proof on hand right now, though I'm sure I can dig up an article on my computer that has quotes (maybe...). However, I can offer this point: Ura-Zelda required a new cartridge to be used. This meant, at the very least, an additional 8MB of game data. It would be a tremendous waste of Nintendo's money and resources to use an 8MB cartridge and N64 Disk Drive hardware to modify the placement of objects and enemies in various dungeons. Through extensive hacking, we've learned how to do the exact same thing that Nintendo did with Master Quest. This could have been done easily in a month or two with just a few people on the team. Ura-Zelda, however, was in production for around two years. Not only that, but the changes themselves would've only used up at most a megabyte of space. Surely they could've added on more than just that for a DD release in the making for several years. Master Quest or not, there's just no way Nintendo can justify this being Ura-Zelda. 67.190.250.183

I'm pretty sure that the REAL URA Zelda isn't Master Quest, some of us remember this little thing, don't we? Lesser Shadow 01:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

64DD (re: User:69.220.152.216's edits
I'm fairly certain that Master Quest did indeed come out on the 64DD in Japan, yes? Thus, the article should be reverted to before User:69.220.152.216's edits? The Missing Link 02:52, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
 * No. There was never *any* release of "Ura Zelda" or "Master Quest" for the Nintendo 64DD.Rhindle The Red 17:29, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

The N64 Disk Drive was pretty much abandoned before Ura-Zelda could even be released. Had they thought the release of the game would garner interest, they would've pushed for it. But due to abysmal sales in Japan and little sales interest in the future releases, they cancelled the N64DD and all games intended for it.

Missing Peahats as young Link?
Do I need my eyes checked? When ever I play the Master quest version there is no peahats (flying enemy) on hyrule feild! I thought maybe be this happened due too a poor emulation but... When I switch to the normal version on the disk there back? Is it possible that they where removed from ura zelda because they thought the it didn't add anything? 207.118.191.107 23:16, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

There are a lot of changes like that throughout Master Quest. Enemies are completely gone from a couple of other areas, but twice as many appear in other areas. Nintendo's emulator on the disc does not have -any- problems running the game, especially considering that Nintendo actually made the N64 hardware themselves. FyreWulff 21:15, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Does anybody else think that we should remove the note on the main page about Pehats being absent in the Master Quest? I mean in that case we could on for forever about certain changes made here, and new mosters over here but its really kinda silly to include that one phrase on the main site? Agree or Disagree? Kou Nurasaka 18:15, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Bonus videos
The disc comes with videos of other games for example my Aus version has a trailer for Metroid Prime, LOZ Alttp and a collage of other gamecube games, other regions discs I believe have F zero GX. A section on these movies would be ideal if we can find info on all versions.Atirage 07:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Just checked my own NA disc. Videos for Wind Waker (GCN), Metroid Prime (GCN), F-Zero (GCN) (It's listed as F-Zero, but, of course, it's F-Zero GX), 1080º: Avalanche (GCN), Wario World (GCN), a collection of GCN short-vids called "Hot Clips" (Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Star Fox Adventures, James Bond NightFire, TimeSplitters 2, Star Wars RS2, Madden 2003, All-Star Baseball 2004, Tiger Woods, Wario World, Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Party 4, Smash Bros. Melee, F-Zero, Need for Speed Hot Prusit 2, 1080º Avalanche, Tony Hawk PS4, Phantasy Star 1 & 2, Harry Potter and CoS and Super Monkey Ball 2 - there might be some type-os in there, I was typing them fast as they rushed onto the screen., and, finally, Link to the Past (GBA). 70.106.204.245 02:14, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Game select screenshot
The screenshot of the game select screen looks out of proportion, as if it had been stretched to fit a widescreen TV/monitor. Can anyone take a new screenshot that is in correct proportion to replace it? Justin The Claw 18:47, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Ura redirect
Per a very long-standing merge proposal, I've redirected The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Ura to this article. The archived talk page can be found at Talk:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Master Quest/The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Ura. =David ( talk )( contribs ) 14:10, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 03:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Merge to Ocarina of Time
This may have original levels, reception, development, and release, but it seems that it could easily be summed up in the Ocarina of Time article without losing much from the article. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:04, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


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