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Dodge Challenger
Thank you very much for the help! Akloki 12:14, 22 December 2006 (UTC)Akloki

Am I glad to be back?
Hi! This is the first thing that greeted me on my talk page today. How was your holidays?--Pinay06 (Talk•Email) 00:33, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting me about the Exergoecology article.
SWAdair, thanks for alerting me to the copyright problem with Exergoecology. I am really not interested in the subject. I just saw it as an article that needed Wikifying. I have no intention of working on it any further. - mbeychok 17:43, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Grassy Knoll
I read your comment. I'll have to take another look. Maybe I'm missing something, but he seems to be notable.

--Kevin Murray 05:11, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Fair enough. I have to admit that at first glance the list of things he has worked on or is working on impressed me.  It wasn't until I did a line-by-line comparison between the article and the notability guidelines that I determined he didn't make the grade.  The bar is deliberately set high and he isn't quite there yet.  He comes close, and may very well meet those guidelines within a year or two, but right now I think he just misses making the cut.  SWAdair | Talk 05:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I went back and reviewed through why I opposed the deletion. I can't and won't dispute your allegation that someone may be manipulating Wikipedia as you say, but that is independent of the criteria supporting the notabilty of the person in question. Life is not always fair, but in this case these issues are independent, and I believe that your allegations at the AfD discussion are irrelevant and unrelated. Being nefarious and notable are not mutually exclusive. Sorry to be on the other side here, as I expect that our goals will generally be aligned.

--Kevin Murray 05:29, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Again, fair enough. I can live with that.  :-)  I appreciate your taking the time to review things.  Happy editing!  SWAdair | Talk 05:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Your Userpage
Hello! I wonder if I can "borrow" some of your userpage icons? I love the page. It's neat and "sanitized". Mine is more like me...hehehe--Pinay (talk•email) 05:37, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * LOL, of course. It is all covered under the GFDL.  In fact, if you click "edit this page" on my userpage, you'll see where I've credited the users that I stole from.  My page is mainly based off of an old version of User:Musical Linguist's page, with a few modifications that I pieced together from other pages.  Feel free to use whatever you like.  SWAdair | Talk 05:57, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will do that. I'll pick and choose. Busy night huh? Me, i got a lot of catching up to do...--Pinay  (talk•email) 06:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Help with User:71.135.168.81
has vandalized several articles tonight including Lindsay Lohan, Jimmy Carter, etc.--Pinay (talk•email) 07:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * He appears to have stopped, but I'll keep an eye out for him. If someone continues to vandalize past test4, you can report them at WP:AIV.  I see you're using popups now.  I think I'll give that a try, myself.  SWAdair | Talk 08:26, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I installed it sometime ago. It's cool. And really helps a lot. I can work on my articles, then check my watchlist, and do some reverts every now and then. Yes, you should try it. It comes in handy esp. with all the work that you do here in Wiki. I also have Instaview which I also love, and AWB, but i still have to learn/practice how to use.--Pinay (talk•email) 16:52, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your Help!
Iandres 08:57, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, this is Iandres, a new comer to WIKEPEDIA. Thanks for your simple instruction on how to post reply to messages. I think I finally got it right. I observed that this WIKIPEDIA is not so USER FRIENDLY, specially because they used different and confusing HTML codes. thanks again. iandres

 * You're welcome. Here are a couple of useful links to help explain the basics of editing: the  Introduction and the Tutorial.  Once you get used to the syntax, it becomes second nature.  Of course, it takes everyone a little while to learn.  If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me.  I'm glad to see you've figured out the four tildes for the signature, but the custom here is to place those at the end of your text, so that your signature comes at the end of what you write instead of before it.  Like this --  SWAdair | Talk 09:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Again, Thanks
So now I placed the 4 tildes where they should be :-) One last question can I simply click EDIT (the one beside the last message and not the one above the page) to send you a reply? I use Frontpage express to edit contents of my personal blog and webpage but this WIKIPEDIA is really different. I think it will take me quite sometime before I'll feel comfortable with their page making and page editing format. I tried to download the WIKEPEDIA editor program but what I got is a zipped file containing elements which I don't have any idea at all how to install. They should have placed a READ ME file along with it. I deleted the useless file out of disappointment.  Why is WIKIPEDIA so user UNFRIENDLY? Thanks for your help. Time to log-out.

Iandres

(Iandres 09:19, 27 December 2006 (UTC))

 * When you click EDIT to the right of a section header, that lets you edit that section on that page. In other words, if you are reading your own talk page and click EDIT, you will add your message to your own talk page.  No one else will get a message that you've edited there (it acts like a message board instead of an instant messaging client).  Usually that isn't a problem because if someone is engaged in a conversation with you, they'll check back after their last edit to see if you've added anything.  If they're busy with something else it might be a while before they get a chance to check back, but they'll see it sooner or later.  If you want to be sure a user gets the message at the earliest opportunity, then you should be sure to place your message on their talk page.  Then, the next time they view a new page they'll get a notice telling them they have new messages.  Actually, Wikipedia is quite user friendly once you get used to the syntax.  A lot of things that would take long HTML commands can be done with short, simple and easy-to-remember wiki commands.  The only difficult part is learning them the first time, but once you do you'll love the ease of the new options available to you.  I find myself wishing other webpages and even e-mail offered the ease of wikisyntax.  SWAdair | Talk 09:28, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Wiki tools
How are you doing with popups? --Pinay (talk•email) 20:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * O, and I just got approved for this --Pinay (talk•email) 04:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds interesting. I'll check it out later. Yeah, isn't popups cool? not too many pages to open anymore huh? Just click on rv and it will be reverted...I am still learning vandalproof. As a matter of fact, I had only used it once when I registered and still asking/waiting for support with it. Well...--Pinay (talk•email) 04:56, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Body odour
Hi, I thought I should inform you of the "subtle" vandalism on body odour. I am not sure whether I should use the admin intervention noticeboard or whatever, but I am telling you about it because I want to make sure the vandal doesn't revert and that the "the system" should sort of deal with this in one way or another. The guy is an unusual case of a registered user (albeit with about 10 contribs for years) committing blatant vandalism. Which grade of warning is relevant here, I don't know, and I don't feel like dealing with the issue myself either. Regards, --194.145.161.227 20:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Evolutionary medicine
Evolutionary medicine was challenged for AfD today by an ongoing contributor soon after I editied it for NPOV, and made some edits toward neutrality. I don't now enough about the subject to tell whether it is a notable field or not. Perhaps it should be merged to another subject.

Goood luck.

--Kevin Murray 01:48, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I apologize for the delay in responding. It took me 26 minutes just to check and then add a "Speedy Keep" to the AfD, what would normally have taken me about a minute and a half.  The emergency department is keeping Security busy tonight.  :-)  The AfD was nominated by a SPA imposter.  The established user who had edited the article is User:Evolu, and the nomination was by User:Evoluu.  The imposter's only edits, other than recommending "Delete" on the Sharon Moalem AfD, have been an attempt to delete this article -- first by tagging it for speedy (obviously not a CSD) and then by AfD.  SWAdair | Talk 02:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

help needed
Hi! May I bring this to your attention? It looks like we need your expertise on this--Pinay (talk•email) 08:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I really appreciate it.--Pinay (talk•email) 09:19, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I am not too confident to follow the process/instructions myself. BTW, The links here are pointing to U.S. now.--Pinay (talk•email) 09:36, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I meant to say some links are now pointing to U.S. agencies instead of Philippines. --Pinay (talk•email) 09:37, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * This was posted in WT:PINOY: - Please help me finish Portal:Government of the Philippines/Topics -- Kevin Ray 09:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi! How is naming conventions done? What are examples? Thanks. --Pinay  (talk•email) 04:56, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I posted your comment in WT:PINOY. I hope they will pick up on it...--Pinay (talk•email) 04:35, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reverting vandalism to my page. (I didn't notice this earlier. :-)) --Nlu (talk) 15:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year!
Here's wishing you more blessings and more success for the New Year 2007! --Pinay (talk•email) 01:54, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Happy New Year
(Feliz Año Nuevo)

I wish you and your loved ones all the happiness in the world this coming year.

wrong wiki links?
I was browsing for ideas. And saw that the wiki links to this article point to wrong persons, and not the clergy. Check: this. --Pinay (talk•email) 05:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!

 * The award is well-deserved! --Pinay (talk•email) 05:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Re the links, was interested in the statistics, that's all. LoL! Thank you for pointing that out, and for the additional resources. Will have to check them though I must admit they are too overwhelming for now...--Pinay (talk•email) 05:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

How did I do with this one then? Angus purdy
Please look at this one Angus purdy. I am about to call it a night. Amateur vandal hunt ends soon. Ronbo76 07:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hate to brag, but I was on an amateur vandal patrol tonight. Another editor on New Year's Eve gave me a good idea on how to spot self-published article and BS edits. I think I done good tonight. And, I even caught one on JFK just after I left you my message. Yee-haw! Ronbo76 07:44, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll take any advice you have. I *hate* to see some of these bogus self-publishers. My resume reads as good or better (I can't even mention half the stuff I did in the military (if you know what I mean). Well, the witching hour is on me and time to hit the sack! I may ask some advice on some pages I tagged tonight. Here's a quickie: Curtis Newart. Please read the talkpage on this article. Ronbo76 08:03, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for all your help and advice. I nominated three other pages and they were all deleted. Working on another one right tonight. Ronbo76 03:00, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you.
Context note: This is in reference to a question on how to appeal the speedy deletion of an article Ronbo76 ran across before it was deleted.
 * The deletion log shows the article was deleted according to CSD A7, meaning that the article "does not assert the importance or significance of its subject." In other words, it wasn't deleted because the person was non-notable, but because the article did not assert notability.  There is a distinction there that is very important.  Any article that does not assert notability (per established guidelines) is a candidate for speedy deletion.  Rather than trying to dispute the speedy deletion, it might be easier to write a short article (stub) yourself, including an assertion of notability that meets WP:BIO.  If you believe the article did assert notability before it was deleted, you may want to discuss it with the admin who deleted the article, or else list it at Deletion review.  SWAdair | Talk 05:39, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Just as I read the article on Speedy Deletion and the appeal of an article you answered my helpme. I did find out who deleted it and left a message on that admin's talkpage.

I don't know if I can create a stub but will take a shot. Trust me, I felt his article was worthy of AfD, I would be one of the first to also recommend Speedy Delete.

If I have to create the page (because the admin refuses), could I send you the finished article link and ask for your opinion of the finished article? Ronbo76 05:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * And we have history. You helped me figure out the AfD process. I have 15 kills. Ronbo76 05:46, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hehe... it is good that you seek out vandalism and take the necessary steps to fix it, but adding content is also important.  This will be a good opportunity for you to do that.  You might want to work on the stub in your personal sandbox before creating it in the article space.  That way you can be sure that it meets standards before putting it out there.  When you have it ready, let me know and I'll take a look at it.  It would also be helpful if you add a reference or two to the article so that it has reliable sources.  SWAdair | Talk 05:51, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I do contribute too when the vandals are not running rampant. Here is one of my better contribs: KUVS. I still await word from the admin.
 * Thanks again, please see another page KUVS I am proud of. And, while on vandal patrol, I shot down three vandal edits and nailed one self-deleted article. It's for ronbo76 to RTB as I am low on fuel and the smoking lamp is lit (figuratively - I do not smoke but it's a mil custom). Ronbo76 08:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Ready to go live with stub article
You around? Ronbo76 07:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I am now. Looks good.  Seems to meet WP:BIO criteria "Multiple features in popular culture publications."  That version should be safe from speedy deletion.  Good job.  SWAdair | Talk 08:14, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the inspiration
It was tough being on vandal patrol and creating the article. I got it done and created the discussion page as well. I have some plans for the page but I want to see it fully fleshed before one thought is implemented. Ronbo76 08:15, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I know what you mean. I have several things I want to eventually get around to, but I need uninterrupted computer time to do them, and I can never count on that.  I end up spending most of my time on vandalism patrol because frequent (real life) interruptions don't matter there.  Occasionally I stop to help out on an article, making small "wikignome" edits.  Trying to juggle everything and research/write/source an article  is quite a challenge.  You did a good job.  SWAdair | Talk 08:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I have included advocacy
I forgot to mention last night that I have advocated Keeps on several articles. Here is my strongest one []. Before I leave for home (a two day trip), I will count my advocacies and post a number on my talkpage. Ronbo76 18:44, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Here is my latest case for advocacy AAPLAC
Check out the histories for the before and after, AAPLAC Ronbo76 01:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

RE:Floating box
Thanks! After some thought, I decided just to do away with the message entirely, since it was a bit harsh, and just use the box. Gzkn 06:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

pop-up
Now the pop-up is working everywhere on WP. Though, the 0th section editing doesn't work. I won't ask for more help to avoid causing headaches.--Patchouli 07:31, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The process you used should do it for clearing the cache. For the complete version, see Bypass your cache.  Was the 0th section editing working last week and then stopped working?  I'm no javascript expert -- far from it -- but I'll try to help figure out the problem.  SWAdair | Talk 07:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Everything is now fixed including the 0th section editing. Thanks.--Patchouli 10:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the help sorry about the help me thing TeePee-20.7 07:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Don't worry about the placement of the helpme request.  We don't expect new editors to know all the ins-and-outs of the system.  That's why we have the  template -- so that we can help you learn the ropes.  If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.  SWAdair | Talk 07:39, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok kul thanks TeePee-20.7 07:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Need Help Please..
Hi user SWADAIR, I have been a WIKIPEDIA user since December 2006 and have contributed some materials (mostly photos) already since then. Yu have given me valuable advice on how to use the Wikipedia.

I'm Ian-James R. Andres (User:Iandres) and the MIDI sequencer of the 2 MIDI nusic sequences of the Philippine National Anthem (Lupang Hinirang) that you will find uploaded in the Wikipedia Commons. 2 Links to these 2 MIDI files which I created have been made because I gave my permission previously to the person(s) who requested for the said MIDI files to be uploaded.

On January 11, 2007 or barely 2 days after it was uploaded I changed my mind decided to WITHDRAW my permission. I requested the person (an Administrator) who uploaded my two MIDIs at the Wikipedia Commons to remove them.

The said Administrator refused to grant my request to have them removed even after I have withdrawn my permission to publish them at Wikipedia. He said and I quote:

Ian,

I am an administrator for both Wikipedia and for the Commons. The problem is that once you have given the rights to release a media file on Wikipedia, you cannot take them back. We had people try to do that before on the Commons, but have been denied the request to do so.

Regards, Zachary Harden 12 January 2006

Mr. SWADAIR, I ask for your advice as to what appropriate action I should do. I felt harassed and taken advantage of this Administrator and his Team. I want to have my two MIDIS removed. Please help. Thank you very much.

Respectfully yours

Ian-James R. Andres --Iandres 08:14, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Mr. Andres, Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Commons are two separate projects and operate by similar but different rules. Both are provided by the Wikimedia Foundation, but the rules that apply to Wikipedia are slightly different from those that apply to the Commons.  Although the files may be linked to from Wikipedia, they reside on the Commons website.  I am not familiar with all of the rules and legal interpretations of licenses allowed on the Commons.  On Wikipedia it would be a simple matter -- once something is submitted per GFDL, the right cannot be revoked.  The Commons, however, allows many more licensing options.  I would recommend that you bring this up on the Commons' Village Pump and if you don't get a satisfactory response there, you could contact the Commons directly.  SWAdair | Talk 08:30, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your immediate response. I'll follow your advice. But the person claim that he is also "an Administrator" of the Wikipedia Commons. Is there an over-all Administrator of the Wikipedia Commons and not just "an Administrator". I want to write my request to the "Superior". Are all these "administrors" the same or they have different levels. It would be useless to write them if all these "Administrators" are the same. But it's worth a try. Thanks again.--Iandres 09:05, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I would assume that Wikipedia and the Commons are set up along similar lines as far as administration goes. IMO, the best way to approach the matter is as I outlined above -- start by reviewing their page on licensing, then if that doesn't answer your questions, post on their Village Pump.  I would reserve contacting the foundation directly as a last resort to be used if and only if the matter cannot be settled at a lower level.  Again, I would start by reviewing the details of licensing.  It might very well be possible that the granting of rights is irrevocable and reviewing those pages could save you considerable time and effort.  SWAdair | Talk 09:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch!
Thanks a lot for your help; I didn't know that I, as a non-administrator, was allowed to warm other users. Good to know! -Vter4life 08:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, I have another question. Once again, vedpmehta has blanked the Ved Mehta article, only this time replaced it with a whole new 'profile' of sorts. I reverted it again, which would also be the second time today (I know about the three revert rule). I could obviously post another warning on the person's user page, but what if it keeps happening? Thanks for your suggestions. -Vter4life 18:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Er, it's not quite blanking, so I'm going to put up Ved Mehta so that it properly applies to what the user did. I'm still concerned about future vandalism though.. -Vter4life 18:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Hmm... I'll help you keep an eye on the article and this user.  The  template is a nice way to warn/welcome someone.  If you see someone who continually vandalizes, the standard progession of warnings is, ,  and .  With each of those you have the option of using the -n|articlename if you want -- for instance Ved Mehta.  If they continue to vandalize past test4, you can list them at WP:AIV for administrator intervention.  Be sure to go through the entire set of warnings, waiting after each one to see if they vandalize again.  Most people will stop vandalizing after one or two warnings.  Relatively few will continue past the fourth warning.  If you see someone who is rapidly vandalizing many articles in succession, then you can skip the standard progression and use  as a first-and-final warning.  SWAdair | Talk 06:01, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

 * OK, sounds good. I'll keep an eye out as well.  Thanks again for your help, and educating me about how to deal with vandals! -Vter4life 07:04, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

gmail
Please acknowledge receipt of message from gmail - for your comments...--Pinay (talk•email) 19:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You have e-mail. SWAdair | Talk 06:01, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Email reply sent. --Pinay (talk•email) 06:30, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sent lullabye via email. --Pinay (talk•email) 07:30, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Award
Thank you. It is the people like you who are the source of joy and inspiration. --Pinay (talk•email) 07:52, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Web colors and music
JUST IN CASE: Make beautiful tables from this and play beautiful music from here...--Pinay (talk•email) 11:28, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * To use Winamp (to get the OGG codec version), you need to go to the Winamp website and click the player to download. Click "get basic" then click "full." --Pinay (talk•email) 22:53, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Just sharing this quick look into the country's anti-corruption campaign. --Pinay (talk•email) 22:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Userpage
One more question on userpage in gmail. --Pinay (talk•email) 00:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Old time radio related articles
Hi. If you have the time, please take a quick skim of "Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam" when you get the chance.

It looks like there's been a big dispute over links (as well as personalities, motives, names, parentage, etc.) and that you tried to calm the players down at some point.

In your opinion, do you think there's a spam problem that WikiProject Spam volunteers should undertake to fix? If this is more content-related POV dispute over which links to include than a spam-campaign for money, then it may need a mediator/arbitrator more than a spam investigator.

Thanks for any advice you can give me. --A. B. (talk) 16:05, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Hello. My only involvement so far was the talk page that you saw where I tried to reduce the vitriolic nature of the comments.  I see that they are still debating the issue but at least the blatant personal attacks have stopped.  Until now I haven't made any declaration either way concerning the spam-or-not-spam nature of the links.  Since you asked, however...  :-)  I can honestly see valid points on both sides of the issue.  Removing the personalities from the picture and focusing on the facts, it seems that 1) there are an excessive number of links to libsyn.com; 2) otrsite.com is a site that exists primarily to sell products or services; and 3) the ads on freeotrshows.com are more prominent than the content link.  That indicates there could be a spam problem.  On the other hand, where a link leads to a completely free (no registration or payment required) service, it would be nice to be able to keep that link if such links do not otherwise violate WP policy.  Relevant links that provide something more than can be contained in the article are desirable.  Then again (here I am playing devil's advocate with myself) I had to inform a user who wanted to link thousands of articles or article talk pages to a free service, that even without prominent ads it would still be considered spam.  So yes, in short, I believe there are valid points on both sides and an investigation may be warranted.  Note that I'm not pre-emptively declaring the links as spam, but I do believe that a determination by an experienced, third-party spam investigator would be useful.  Now I'm left scratching my head, wondering how you can handle all of this while on a wikibreak.  :-)  SWAdair | Talk 05:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Thank you for your long and thoughful response. I will stay out of this for now. I think the involved parties need some sort of arbitration or mediation process first, perhaps starting with an RFC. This is a content and personality conflict as much as it is a spam concern; I believe community consensus is more effective in those situations than an indvidual such as myself just sticking his hand into the buzzsaw. --A. B. (talk) 13:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

You may wish to take a peek at User talk:76.170.239.56 again, particularly the Crime Club thread. Awhile ago you refactored some comments to remove personal attacks, but it appears to be happening again, not only from this anonymous editor, but by others as well. Since I have in the past contributed to the "discussion" here, I can't do anything myself without there being an impression of conflict of interest. 23skidoo 16:38, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I left a message for both of them at User talk:76.170.239.56 and left appropriate warning templates on both talk pages.  I've been bending over backwards giving multiple chances to prove that people can conduct themselves appropriately when warned, but it seems that this might be a hopeless case.  From this point on, no more talk-page-only discussions.  From now on, it will be templates and noticeboards until the behavior is changed or the editors involved are blocked.  Sheesh!  LOL, oh well, thank you again.  Happy editing!  SWAdair | Talk 05:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I have just read some of this anonymous editors comments about me. Please advise what action I can take as I consider his comments about me to be libellous. Obviously since he's hiding behind an and IP and I, of course, am "hiding" behind a nickname, I'm not talking about legal action. But I think it's time we stop pussyfooting around with him and do what he's actually requesting we do an permaban him. But again I can't do anything without coming off as pushing some agenda or being a "sockpuppet" or whatever. And to my knowledge his comments about me have not gone beyond his talk page, so this isn't the same as him making these claims in a more public forum. If you see any comments of this nature addressed towards me in any forum beyond his talk page, I'd appreciate knowing about it. Thanks for any advice. I've already done the Internet equivalent of biting my tongue on this (i.e. I typed up a strongly worded and possibly actionable response and then deleted it without posting, to get it out of my system). I still think he is eligible for permabanning as he's insisting on editing from an anonymous IP despite being a registered user. 23skidoo 06:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Please note that in order to remain a neutral party in this situation, I am simply pointing you toward appropriate policy. I would rather not become involved in any libel dispute.  I intend to focus solely on the flame war nature of the discussions.  In order to remain neutral I'll have to give you the same advice I would give Dennis if he were to ask about how to handle libel, so here goes:  First is a recognition that Libel only says libel isn't tolerated.  It doesn't give a resolution process other than contacting the foundation.  The proper way to handle such a dispute on-wiki is to follow Resolving disputes.  Please note that the very first step listed for dispute resolution is to talk to the other parties involved.  Keep in mind all the conduct and communication related policies (WP:AGF, WP:CIVIL, WP:EQ, etc.) when discussing the issue and be sure that you are abiding by those policies.  Violating those policies at this first step would look bad if third-party assistance is needed later.  The object should be to see if you can resolve the issue in a civil manner.  If that doesn't meet with satisfactory results, then there are other options listed.  Skipping that first step, though, would be a bad thing.  The dispute resolution process should be followed step by step, making every effort to resolve things at the lowest level possible.  ADVICE FOR ANYONE INVOLVED IN A DISPUTE:  Avoid loaded words; comment on content and not the person; eliminate adjectives and adverbs where possible; if you must use an adjective or adverb, choose the softest / least-loaded one; do not make accusations that cannot be proven with a diff.  SWAdair | Talk 07:05, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments noted and appreciated. Thanks! 23skidoo 14:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

English and non-English references
Context note: This is in reference to this comment. Yes I know it.I was also indulging in it. But that doesnt mean that we cannot use non-English citations. He's removing my English citations as well. Wikipedia policy doesnt say that we cannot use non-english sources. There are thousands of citations quoted in numerous articles of wikipedia. Plz tell how can i stop his removal of info? Sarvabhaum 11:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Probably the best way to handle it is to bring it up on either the article talk page or his talk page. You might ask that he not revert but selectively edit to remove only the non-English references.  Also, on your part, it would be best if you only used verifiable (English) references, and if you feel that you absolutely must include a non-English reference, do that as a separate edit.  If you leave that as your last edit, then it will be easier for someone to revert *only* that part without reverting your other (non-controversial) edits.  SWAdair | Talk 11:12, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Good suggestion. But isnt it unfair to remove Marathi citations and push a certain POV? I have discussed and tried to end up the feud by allowing Kannada script at yadavas of devagiri but he is being too inconsiderate. He uses a English book written by a proud Kannadigas and uses it everywhere naturally the article goes his way. Its important to inlclude others views as well. Chalukya and Yadava/rashatrakuta are integral part of Maharashtra's history.Sarvabhaum 11:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

If u see wiki policy it does allow using non-english books as well. This guy deletes because he has strong hatred against Marathi language and people. I have discussed this many times on talk page. Add to that,he is a senior user he gets the benefit of doubt. Sarvabhaum 11:32, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

my tag line
I thank you very much for the appreciation of that phrase, for I made it up myself. Possibly I should make a userbox out of it. If you want to use it, perhaps you could say something like "as DGG says on his user page, ..."

Thanks!
Thanks for clearing that up for me! --Emevas 19:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

update
in gmail. --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 03:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Your last observation on my talk page
Context note: This is in reference to conversations at User talk:76.170.239.56 and, most recently, this edit. SWAdair | Talk 04:35, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Excuse me, but I took extremely great pains to specifically avoid directly accusing you of anything. If you wish to stop the flame wars then step in to stop the libel--or find someone who will. How difficult is that? As to your obviously well intentioned suggestion to report the libel, I have to tell you how laughable that suggestion is.  Either you're very naieve or you've never been libeled in such a naked, sustained, public fashion.  There are no effective means of preventing, reporting, or defending against this naked, repeated, outrageous, utterly baseless libel.  You know it, and the libelers clearly know it--and capitalize and count on it. Certainly no means that will result in it being excised from public view, and clearly no means by which the libeler is ever sanctioned by the most strenuous, effective, permanent means.  They've learned through repeated libel, that their libel goes unsanctioned over and over and over and over again. You still fail to respond to the libelers 'running under the skirt' of your talk page to alert you to the brouhahah their libel has generated--yet again.  I repeat for your edification, there is no--repeat no--current effective defense against this naked pattern of libeling anyone who challenges the spammers, link abusers, and their ilk. None. Not on Wikipedia anyway.  Show me even one effective avenue and I'll pursue it. This entire libel issue is obscene, pure and simple. It rises to hate speech on occasion, and has no place whatsoever within Wikipedia, but all that's ever sanctioned is the language, not the libel.76.170.239.56 08:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Let me disabuse you of some apparently fanciful misapprehension you seem to hold: libel absolutely does harms the libelee. In some instances it harms the libelee for months or years.  In my specific situation, my entire reputation on the internet has been based upon being an effective, conscientious, dependable steward of Golden Age Radio preservation.  I've gone to great pains in the past 5 and a half years, to specifically avoid any appearance of conflicts of interest by specifically refusing all advertising on my site, and yet these spammers have embarked on a widespread campaign to harm my reputation.  They contend, however tortured their logic, that my one page out of 1229, suggesting donations to support my efforts, makes me 'just another money-grubbing commercial site'.  My continued refusal to accept advertising of any kind has unquestionably cost me a great deal in potential additional revenue, but one simply cannot establish oneself as a Golden Age Radio Preservation promoter, while at the same time capitalizing on the very subject one purports to preserve, promote, and protect.  Hence all I have left is my site's reputation, painstakingly established over 5 and a half years.  It's self-evident that anyone that would actively campaign against the naked commercialization of Golden Age Radio, is going to be a very visible target of the proliferation of spammers, inferior quality CD and .mp3 vendors, groups of 'OTR' hoarders that acquire new material by whatever means available to them, immediately downsample it--thus effectively destroying it's only intrinsic value, distribute it via 'distros' to thousannds of other 'OTR' hoarders at either some nominal cost in postage, CD's, or trade, then ultimately post all of it on streamload or Media Max, or some other file-sharing mechanism, and thus proliferate hundreds of thousands of inferior renditions of some dedicated collector's original, painstaking preservation and encoding effort.  Even worse, in time, the inferior rendition of the preservationist's efforts, based purely on the overwhelming numbers of inferior copies circulating, becomes believed to be the encode of record for that particular episode, program, or historical recording.  That simply deprives the small percentage of genuine Golden Age Radio Preservation inspired collectors of the opportunity to hear the best rendition possible of a particular recording.  I'm not being naieve myself by any means.  Commerce has it's place, obviously.  Honest, moral commerce; providing the best possible product or service for it's target audience or customers.  I have no argument with that ideal.  I have my personal doubts about how effectively it's being upheld in the current era, but in principle it's one of the bases upon which our very successful economy was developed.  But it certainly doesn't justify the proliferation of outright immoral behaviour within the 'OTR' community--or any other aspect of society for that matter.76.170.239.56 08:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Being one of those encoders myself, as well a producer of thousands of original Golden Age related artwork myself, I can certainly sympathize, but that's not my objection here. My objection here is Wikipedia's tacit endorsement of the most vile, underhanded, reprehensible libel, with no recourse whatsoever to the libelee. That's immoral.  There's no other word for it. Yes it's unjust, deceitful, misleading, and uncivil, but it's the pure immorality of the practice that's the most shameful and harmful. To date, every single libel levied at me personally, and my site and it's operation, stands without refactoring, or deletion within the Google-searchable pages of Wikipedia.  And here's the most insidious, venal, reprehensible aspect of the situation:  the libelers then compound the libel, by distributing, amongst their own Yahoo, Google, IRC, or UseNet groups and forums, that same libel as if it's indisputable fact--and of course it remains undisputed because they never offer the target any means of redress or rebuttal.  That's been the coward's way throughout history: 'whispering campaigns'. A proven effective way of libeling--even eventually destroying--either an individual or a class of individuals.  And the modus operandi is always the same.  Indeed, the libel may as well be fact, because Wikipedia tacitly endorses it. You'd do well to stop being such a Pollyanna about this and face the reality of the effect of these naked libeling campaigns. It's one thing to campaign spam on archive.org, Wikipedia, DMOZ or any other well meaning vehicle they attach themselves to like a cancer.  As with all things reprehensible as our civil society continues to deteriorate, the inclination of most of the apathetic majority of society is to simply not get involved in defeating such naked violations of justice, civility, American Ideals, or The Golden Rule.  They just hold their nose and look the other way--or even worse, they eventually buy into the libel campaign and accept it as fact.  This simply creates a more fertile 'petri dish' for the bottom feeders in every facet of the dregs of society.  So no, your comments are not just, they don't address the base problem, they don't defuse or redress the libel, and they do nothing whatsoever to further Wikipedia's higher aims.  That's the long and short of it. 76.170.239.56 08:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I understand what libel is and the effects it has. As I have made clear both on your talk page and further up this page, I have no intention of getting involved in a libel dispute.  Period.  If you want corrective action taken, then you need to initiate it.  I'm not going to do it for you, and I have explained why.  You've seen the response I gave to 23skidoo when asked.  It seems to me that you somehow feel justified in continuing a flame war.  That is not appropriate.  If you really believe you're being libeled, then follow the proper procedures, but do not engage in incivility.  Also, I have made it abundantly clear in mulitple posts that the only area I'm focusing on is the flame war.  That is the only area I intend to have any involvement in, and that involvement is to see that it stops.  As I have explained in detail already, my choice to limit my involvement is to prevent any possible perception of a conflict of interest.  I cannot have made any clearer my intention or my focus.  Any future comments as to why I'm wrong for not exceeding that limit will be ignored/deleted.  My choice to limit my involvement has absolutely nothing to do with your choice of how you conduct yourself on Wikipedia.  I have only one question for you:  Do you intend to abide by Wikipedia policy?  SWAdair | Talk 10:54, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Interesting that some can delete whatever they wish to delete on Wikipedia--including their own talk pages, while libelees have to sit still for defamation and libel to stand undeleted on their own talk pages. And of course you're utterly unconcerned about libel because you can delete it from your own talk page anytime you wish to--something the targets of repeated libel campaigns cannot do--ever.  It's clear there's neither any effective means of redress, or justice on Wikipedia. You saw for yourself on the page I referred you to, what happens when anyone even attempts to provide a thoughtful, dispassionate plea for resolution.  All the libelers have to do is go to that page as  well, and continue the libel.  It's all a farce. I'll leave you to your spammers, hypocritcal editors, and libelers.  It's simply not worth the aggravation any longer.76.170.239.56 22:37, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey!
You should probably take a look at your entry at WP:NA...I believe it needs to be updated. =)   Jumping cheese   Cont @ct 08:09, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * np ^_^   Jumping cheese   Cont @ct 20:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Wall of Honor
Because of your dedication and your excellent work in Wikipedia, I have inducted you to my "Wall of Honor" Tony the Marine 21:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

How's it goin'?
Hey! How was vacation? just dropping a few lines...been busy in RL,elections and all, but still checking in here at WL from time to time. Hope to touch base with you again here or in gmail. TTYL. --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 16:48, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * As expected, stalemate! as the 2 congressman are concentrating on campaigns nd cannot be bothered with images, much less Wikipedia images at this time! hehehehe. Well, i guess we will have to wait for the new congress to convene to change the status of the images! BTW, Are you saying there are no rocks for me? huhuhuhu! nor sand? huhuhuhu more...well, i got to buy some somewhere! also on ebay! hehehehe! more to accumulate!--Ate Pinay  (talk•email) 11:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Gmail
Please check...where are you and how are you now??? --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 09:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Nice picture -- please help with 203.33.199.7
You already warned 203.33.199.7 in December 2006 of staying out of articles due to adding spam. They are back at the links again. Also, after spending about 3 days getting material sourced and written for the feng shui article, this person put in their commercial link and put in the old, crappy stuff without attributions.

I think you had asked about carbola chemical co. It was in operations in the 70's. My father owed the place and I spent alot of time there. If you have any questions, I'll help you the best I can.

Carbola Chemical co.
I think you had asked about carbola chemical co. It was in operations in the 70's. My father owed the place and I spent alot of time there. If you have any questions, I'll help you the best I can.

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San Ignacio

San Ignacio (the Spanish language name of St. Ignatius) is a common toponym in parts of the world where that language is or was spoken:

Argentina

 * San Ignacio, Argentina, Misiones Province
 * San Ignacio Miní, a Jesuit mission in Misiones Province

Belize

 * San Ignacio, Belize (Cayo District), towns in western Belize

Bolivia

 * San Ignacio de Moxos
 * San Ignacio de Velasco
 * San Ignacio, Mamoré
 * San Ignacio de Zamucos

Chile

 * San Ignacio, Chile, a town in the Ñuble Region

Costa Rica

 * San Ignacio District, Acosta, San José Province

El Salvador

 * San Ignacio, Chalatenango

Honduras

 * San Ignacio, Francisco Morazán

Mexico

 * San Ignacio, Baja California Sur
 * San Ignacio, Chihuahua (Práxedis G. Guerrero)
 * San Ignacio, Sinaloa
 * San Ignacio Río Muerto (Sonora)
 * San Ignacio Lagoon
 * San Ignacio Cerro Gordo, Jalisco

Northern Mariana Islands

 * Former colonial name of Pagan

Paraguay

 * San Ignacio, Paraguay, a city and district in the Misiones Department

Peru

 * San Ignacio, Perú
 * San Ignacio District, Peru
 * San Ignacio Province, Cajamarca Region

Spain

 * San Ignacio (Ponga)

United States

 * San Ignacio, Texas

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DOM event

DOM (Document Object Model) Events are a signal that something has occurred, or is occurring, and can be triggered by user interactions or by the browser. Client-side scripting languages like JavaScript, JScript, VBScript, and Java can register various event handlers or listeners on the element nodes inside a DOM tree, such as in HTML, XHTML, XUL, and SVG documents.

Examples of DOM Events:

 * When a user clicks the mouse
 * When a web page has loaded
 * When an image has been loaded
 * When the mouse moves over an element
 * When an input field is changed
 * When an HTML form is submitted
 * When a user presses a key

Historically, like DOM, the event models used by various web browsers had some significant differences which caused compatibility problems. To combat this, the event model was standardized by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) in DOM Level 2.

Common events
There is a huge collection of events that can be generated by most element nodes:
 * Mouse events.
 * Keyboard events.
 * HTML frame/object events.
 * HTML form events.
 * User interface events.
 * Mutation events (notification of any changes to the structure of a document).
 * Progress events (used by XMLHttpRequest and File API ).

Note that the event classification above is not exactly the same as W3C's classification.

Note that the events whose names start with "DOM" are currently not well supported, and for this and other performance reasons are deprecated by the W3C in DOM Level 3. Mozilla and Opera support DOMAttrModified, DOMNodeInserted, DOMNodeRemoved and DOMCharacterDataModified. Chrome and Safari support these events, except for DOMAttrModified.

Touch events
Web browsers running on touch-enabled devices, such as Apple's iOS and Google's Android, generate additional events.

In the W3C draft recommendation, a  delivers a   of   locations, the modifier keys that were active, a   of   locations within the targeted DOM element, and a   of   locations that have changed since the previous.

Apple didn't join this working group, and delayed W3C recommendation of its Touch Events Specification by disclosing patents late in the recommendation process.

Pointer events
Web browsers on devices with various types of input devices including mouse, touch panel, and pen may generate integrated input events. Users can see what type of input device is pressed, what button is pressed on that device, and how strongly the button is pressed when it comes to a stylus pen. As of October 2013, this event is only supported by Internet Explorer 10 and 11.

Indie UI events
Not yet really implemented, the Indie UI working groups want to help web application developers to be able to support standard user interaction events without having to handle different platform specific technical events that could match with it.

Scripting usable interfaces can be difficult, especially when one considers that user interface design patterns differ across software platforms, hardware, and locales, and that those interactions can be further customized based on personal preference. Individuals are accustomed to the way the interface works on their own system, and their preferred interface frequently differs from that of the web application author's preferred interface.

For example, web application authors, wishing to intercept a user's intent to undo the last action, need to "listen" for all the following events:
 * Control+Z on Windows and Linux.
 * Command+Z on Mac OS X.
 * Shake events on some mobile devices.

It would be simpler to listen for a single, normalized request to "undo" the previous action.

Internet Explorer-specific events
In addition to the common (W3C) events, two major types of events are added by Internet Explorer. Some of the events have been implemented as de facto standards by other browsers.
 * Clipboard events.
 * Data binding events.

Note that Mozilla, Safari and Opera also support the readystatechange event for the XMLHttpRequest object. Mozilla also supports the beforeunload event using the traditional event registration method (DOM Level 0). Mozilla and Safari also support contextmenu, but Internet Explorer for Mac does not.

Note that Firefox 6 and later support the beforeprint and afterprint events.

XUL events
In addition to the common (W3C) events, Mozilla defined a set of events that work only with XUL elements.

Other events
For Mozilla and Opera 9, there are also undocumented events known as DOMContentLoaded and DOMFrameContentLoaded which fire when the DOM content is loaded. These are different from "load" as they fire before the loading of related files (e.g., images). However, DOMContentLoaded has been added to the HTML 5 specification. The DOMContentLoaded event was also implemented in the Webkit rendering engine build 500+. This correlates to all versions of Google Chrome and Safari 3.1+. DOMContentLoaded is also implemented in Internet Explorer 9.

Opera 9 also supports the Web Forms 2.0 events DOMControlValueChanged, invalid, forminput and formchange.

Event flow
Consider the situation when two event targets participate in a tree. Both have event listeners registered on the same event type, say "click". When the user clicks on the inner element, there are two possible ways to handle it:
 * Trigger the elements from outer to inner (event capturing). This model is implemented in Netscape Navigator.
 * Trigger the elements from inner to outer (event bubbling). This model is implemented in Internet Explorer and other browsers.

W3C takes a middle position in this struggle.

According to the W3C, events go through three phases when an event target participates in a tree:

 * 1) The capture phase: the event travels down from the root event target to the target of an event
 * 2) The target phase: the event travels through the event target
 * 3) The bubble phase (optional): the event travels back up from the target of an event to the root event target. The bubble phase will only occur for events that bubble (where  )

You can find a visualization of this event flow at https://domevents.dev

Stopping events
While an event is travelling through event listeners, the event can be stopped with  or

 * : the event is stopped after all event listeners attached to the current event target in the current event phase are finished
 * : the event is stopped immediately and no further event listeners are executed

When an event is stopped it will no longer travel along the event path. Stopping an event does not cancel an event.

Legacy mechanisms to stop an event

 * Set the  to   (Internet Explorer)
 * Set the  property to

Canceling events
A  event can be canceled by calling. Canceling an event will opt out of the default browser behaviour for that event. When an event is canceled, the  property will be set to. Canceling an event will not stop the event from traveling along the event path.

Event object
The Event object provides a lot of information about a particular event, including information about target element, key pressed, mouse button pressed, mouse position, etc. Unfortunately, there are very serious browser incompatibilities in this area. Hence only the W3C Event object is discussed in this article.

DOM Level 0
This event handling model was introduced by Netscape Navigator, and remains the most cross-browser model. There are two model types: the inline model and the traditional model.

Inline model
In the inline model, event handlers are added as attributes of elements. In the example below, an alert dialog box with the message "Hey Joe" appears after the hyperlink is clicked. The default click action is cancelled by returning false in the event handler.

One common misconception with the inline model is the belief that it allows the registration of event handlers with custom arguments, e.g.  in the   function. While it may seem like that is the case in the example above, what is really happening is that the JavaScript engine of the browser creates an anonymous function containing the statements in the  attribute. The  handler of the element would be bound to the following anonymous function:

This limitation of the JavaScript event model is usually overcome by assigning attributes to the function object of the event handler or by using closures.

Traditional model
In the traditional model, event handlers can be added or removed by scripts. Like the inline model, each event can only have one event handler registered. The event is added by assigning the handler name to the event property of the element object. To remove an event handler, simply set the property to null:

To add parameters:

Inner functions preserve their scope.

DOM Level 2
The W3C designed a more flexible event handling model in DOM Level 2.

Some useful things to know :
 * To prevent an event from bubbling, developers must call the  method of the event object.
 * To prevent the default action of the event to be called, developers must call the  method of the event object.

The main difference from the traditional model is that multiple event handlers can be registered for the same event. The  option can also be used to specify that the handler should be called in the capture phase instead of the bubbling phase. This model is supported by Mozilla, Opera, Safari, Chrome and Konqueror.

Internet Explorer-specific model
Microsoft Internet Explorer prior to version 8 does not follow the W3C model, as its own model was created prior to the ratification of the W3C standard. Internet Explorer 9 follows DOM level 3 events, and Internet Explorer 11 deletes its support for Microsoft-specific model.

Some useful things to know :
 * To prevent an event bubbling, developers must set the event's  property.
 * To prevent the default action of the event to be called, developers must set the event's  property.
 * The   keyword refers to the global   object.

Again, this model differs from the traditional model in that multiple event handlers can be registered for the same event. However the  option can not be used to specify that the handler should be called in the capture phase. This model is supported by Microsoft Internet Explorer and Trident based browsers (e.g. Maxthon, Avant Browser).

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Ida, Countess of Boulogne

Ida of Boulogne (c. 1160 – 1216) was suo jure Countess of Boulogne from 1173 until her death.

Life
Ida was the elder daughter of Matthew of Alsace and Marie I, Countess of Boulogne. Her maternal grandparents were King Stephen of England and Matilda I of Boulogne. Her mother, a nun, had been abducted from a convent and forced into marriage by Matthew. As a consequence, her parents' marriage was controversial and, in 1170, was annulled.

Reign
Her father continued to rule until his death in 1173, when she succeeded. Upon the advice of her uncle, Philip I, Count of Flanders, she married first in 1181, to Gerard of Guelders, but he died in the same year. She next married Berthold IV, Duke of Zähringen, but he died in 1186.

Ida was abducted in 1190 by Count Renaud de Dammartin, who carried her off to Lorraine. She and Renaud had a daughter, Matilda II of Boulogne (died 1258).

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Dhauladhar

Dhauladhar (धौलाधार) (lit. 'The White Range') is a mountain range which is part of a lesser Himalayan chain of mountains. It rises from the Shivalik hills, to the north of Kangra and Mandi. Dharamsala, the headquarters of Kangra district and the winter capital of Himachal Pradesh, lies on its southern spur in the Kangra Valley. Chamba lies to the North of this range.

Overview
The Dhauladhar range is one of the ranges of the Middle Himalayas. They begin from near Dalhousie at the northwest end of Himachal Pradesh and pass through the state to the vicinity of the bank of the Beas River in the Kulu district of Himachal Pradesh. They begin to merge with the Pir Panjal near Manali. They are entirely in Himachal Pradesh. They are distinctive in their typical dark granite rocky formations with a remarkably steep rise culminating in sharp streaks of snow and ice at the top of their crested peaks. This distinctive profile is best seen from the Kangra Valley from where they seem to shoot up almost vertically.

The elevation of the Dhauladhars ranges widely from 3,500 m to nearly 6,000 m. The highest peak in the range is the Hanuman Tibba, 5,982 metres (19,626 ft) above sea level. There are several peaks which are close to 5500 m (17,000 ft). From the banks of the Beas River river in Kulu, the range curves towards the town of Mandi, Himachal Pradesh, India. Then, running north, it passes through Bada Bhangal, joins the PIr Panjal Range and moves into Chamba.

The Dhauladhars have a peculiar topography. Although mostly composed of granite, the flanks of the range exhibit frequent formations of slate (often used for the roofs of houses in the region), limestone and sandstone. Ascending from any side is difficult, given the near vertical incline. This calls for highly technical trekking and mountaineering. There is very little habitation on the range given the harsh conditions. But meadows abound near the crest providing rich pastures for grazing where large numbers of Gaddi shepherds take their flocks. The top of the crest is buried under vast expanses of thick snow. Triund, approached from the hill station of McLeod Ganj, is the nearest and most accessible snow line in the Indian Himalayas. The range has rich flora and fauna.

Peaks, virgin and scaled, have drawn mountaineers from all over the world. Some of the well-known ones are Mun (4610 m) near Dharamshala, Manimahesh Kailash (मणिमहेश कैलाश) (5653 m) in the sacred Manimahesh region, Gauri Junda (4946 m), near the Talang pass, which is commonly referred to as the 'Dhauladhar Matterhorn', Christmas (4581 m), Toral (4686 m), Dromedary (4553 m), Riflehorn (4400 m), Lantern (5100 m), Arthur's Seat (4525 m), Camel (4520 m), Slab (4570 m), and several other named and unnamed peaks. Due to the position of the range it receives two monsoons a year with heavy rains; where the mountains have not been heavily logged, there are dense pine and Deodar forests.

There are glacial lakes in the Dhauladhars. Prominent among them is the Lam Dal which is the biggest with a circumference of about 2.5 km. It is a very sacred lake and considered to be the abode of Lord Shiva alongside Manimahesh Lake. Each year pilgrims take a holy dip in August and September just when the Manimahesh yatra begins. There are other very sacred lakes like the Nag Dal/Nag Chattri Dal. This lake owes its history to the Bhagsunag Temple and is considered sacred. It is dedicated to the Nag Devta or the Lord King Cobra. The other beautiful lakes are the Chanderkup Dal above the Lam Dal, Kareri Lake below the Minkaini Pass, Dehnasar Lake across the Sari Pass and the very sacred Kali Kund just 150 m below the Lam Dal at an elevation of 3900 m and approachable from Minkiani Pass (4250 metres).

One of the major passes across this range is the Indrahar Pass. At an altitude of 4,342 metres (14,245 ft) above mean sea level, near the tourist town of Dharamshala in Himachal Pradesh, Indrahar Pass forms the border between Kangra and Chamba districts. It is part of a popular trekking route from Dharamshala Including Triund Trek, Mun Peak Expedition from the Indrahar Pass , Seven Lake Trek Lake starting from Kareri Lake , Kareri Lake Trek , Lam Dal Lake Trek increases substantial tourist traffic during the trekking season between April and October.

The Dhauladhar mountain range became visible after 30 years in Jalandhar, Punjab, less than 200 km away, after pollution levels came down amidst the COVID-19 lockdown in March 2020.

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Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Apricots.jpg

Apricot
A very nice photo of apricots.

 * Support. Self Nom. --Fir0002 06:38, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. Saw it be uploaded in LRCF, thought of FP immediately. Frencheigh 06:40, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. Makes me hungry -- Chris 73 Talk 06:48, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yep, nice composition and color. Also in focus. Support. Mgm|(talk) 08:39, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Support Excellent picture - Adrian Pingstone 14:23, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. Yum. —Korath (Talk) 16:28, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. Great color, sharpness and bokeh. Alight 22:40, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. They look good enough to eat! --Chris 23:14, Feb 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. James F. (talk) 23:44, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. Neutralitytalk 05:57, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Support -- Longhair 20:29, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Support --brian0918™ 13:34, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak support. Off-center, but the full-size is so darn sharp and tasty-looking, I just had to vote yes. grendel|khan 04:11, 2005 Mar 2 (UTC)
 * Support. I have a new wallpaper. :) TheCoffee 16:03, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. -- AllyUnion (talk) 03:01, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Promoted BrokenSegue 01:18, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)


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Abeid Karume

Abeid Amani Karume (4 August 1905 – 7 April 1972) was the first President of Zanzibar. He obtained this title as a result of a revolution which led to the deposing of Sir Jamshid bin Abdullah, the last reigning Sultan of Zanzibar, in January 1964. Three months later, the United Republic of Tanzania was founded, and Karume became the first Vice President of the United Republic with Julius Nyerere of Tanganyika as president of the new country. He was the father of Zanzibar's former president, Amani Abeid Karume.

Early career
Allegedly born at the village of Mwera, Zanzibar in 1905, Karume had little formal education and worked as a seaman before entering politics. He once proudly served as an oarsman for the Sultan's ceremonial barge. He left Zanzibar in the early years of his life, travelling among other places to London, where he gained an understanding of geopolitics and international affairs through exposure to African thinkers such as Hastings Kamuzu Banda of Malawi. Karume developed an apparatus of control through the expansion of the Afro-Shirazi Party and its relations with the Tanganyika African National Union party.

Revolution in Zanzibar
On 10 December 1963, the United Kingdom granted full independence to Zanzibar after the Zanzibar National Party (ZNP) and Zanzibar and Pemba People's Party won the elections. The Sultan was a constitutional monarch. Initial elections gave government control to the ZNP. Karume was willing to work within the electoral framework of the new government, and actually informed a British police officer of the revolutionary plot set to take place in January.

Karume was not in Zanzibar on 12 January 1964, the night of the revolution, and was instead on the African mainland. The instigator of the rebellion was a previously unknown Ugandan, John Okello. 2,000 - 4,000 Zanzibaris, mostly Zanzibari Arabs & Indians, were murdered, with relatively few casualties on the revolutionary side. Many more were raped and images of mass-killings and mass-graves invocative of genocidal episodes were published in the world media causing immediate alarm and embarrassing the Nyerere Government. The Zanzibar Revolution brought an end to about 500 years of Arab domination on the island during which the Arab Slave Trade, most significantly, had resulted in a strong resentment among the majority African population.

Power struggle
Having taken control of the island, John Okello invited Abeid Karume back to the island to assume the title of President of the People's Republic of Zanzibar. Other Zanzibaris in foreign territory were also invited back, most notably the Marxist politician Abdulrahman Mohammad Babu, who was appointed to the Revolutionary Council. John Okello reserved for himself the title of "Field Marshal", a position with undefined power. What followed was a three-month-long internal struggle for power.

Karume used his political skills to align the leaders of neighboring African countries against Okello and invited Tanganyikan police officers into Zanzibar to maintain order. As soon as Okello took a trip out of the country, Karume declared him an "enemy of the state" and did not allow him to return. Given the presence of Tanganyikan police and the absence of their leader, Okello's gangs of followers did not offer any resistance.

Karume's second important political move came when he agreed to form a union with the Tanganyikan president Julius Nyerere in April 1964. The union ensured that the new country, to be called Tanzania, would not align itself with the Soviet Union and communist bloc, as A.M. Babu had advocated. Given the new legitimacy of Karume's government (now solidly backed up by mainland Tanganyika), Karume marginalized Babu to the point of irrelevance. The Marxist leader was eventually forced to flee Tanzania after being charged with masterminding the assassination of Karume in 1972. As a result, Karume was rewarded with the post of First Vice-President.

Personal life
In 1970, four young Persian girls refused to marry the 64-year old Karume. As a result, he ordered the arrest of 10 of their male relatives for "hindering the implementation of mixed marriages." He threatened to deport these men and dozens of other members of the Persian Ithnasheri sect to which they belonged. Because of Tanzanian President Nyerere's pressure, Karume eventually dropped the charges. However, a few months later, the 4 different Persian girls were forced to marry members of his Revolutionary Council and 11 of the girls' relatives afterwards were ordered by a judge to be imprisoned and flogged.

Karume remarked on the situation: "In colonial times the Arabs took African concubines without bothering to marry them. Now that we are in power, the shoe is on the other foot."

Assassination and legacy
Karume was assassinated in April 1972 in Zanzibar Town. Four gunmen shot him dead as he played bao at the headquarters of the Afro-Shirazi Party. Reprisals followed against people suspected to have been opposed to Karume's regime. During his tenure he was able to nationalize land owned by Arabs and Indians and re-distribute the land among the poor majority Zanzibaris. He also established a system of free education and health services for all Zanzibaris regardless their race, color or ethnicity. Apart from that, he engaged in construction of many houses available to the people of Zanzibar a very affordable rents. Amani Abeid Karume, Abeid's son, was elected two times as the president of Zanzibar, in 2000 and 2005 by a popular majority and handed over power in late 2010 to his successor Ali Mohamed Shein.

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San Ignacio, Baja California Sur

San Ignacio is a town in Mulegé Municipality, Baja California Sur. The town had a 2020 census population of 521.

History
San Ignacio grew at the site of the Cochimí settlement of Kadakaamán. The Jesuit Misión San Ignacio Kadakaamán was founded in 1728 by Fr. Juan Bautista Luyando.

Geography
It is located on Mexican Federal Highway 1 between Guerrero Negro and Santa Rosalía.

One can travel on Mexican Federal Highway 1 by vehicle from Ensenada to arrive in San Ignacio. Highway 1 is a well-maintained, four-lane, toll highway from Tijuana to Ensenada. South of Ensenada, Highway 1 becomes a narrow (but relatively well-maintained) two-lane highway. Slow but steady progress is being made to support the tourism industry and Pemex gas stations are now located in every major town through which Highway 1 travels on the way to San Ignacio, both from the North and from the South. Driving only during daylight hours is recommended, due to livestock that frequently cross the road at night, and decreased visibility of the narrow and winding roads through the mountain sides.

The nearest airports are located to the north at Guerrero Negro Airport in Guerrero Negro, or to the south at Loreto International Airport in Loreto.

Geology
The locale has certain basaltic soils, providing clues as to the volcanic history of this region. There are a variety of desert flora and fauna in the vicinity of San Ignacio, notably including the elephant tree, (Bursera microphylla).

At San Ignacio, Baja California's arid Central Desert terrain gives way to a large grove of lush green date palms. A large spring-fed pond and small river on the outskirts of town feeds into the central plaza and village next to the eighteenth-century Jesuit mission. San Ignacio serves as the gateway to San Ignacio Lagoon, the winter time sanctuary of the Pacific gray whale.

title: San Ignacio, Baja California Sur


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National Army Museum

The National Army Museum is the British Army's central museum. It is located in the Chelsea district of central London, adjacent to the Royal Hospital Chelsea, the home of the "Chelsea Pensioners". The museum is a non-departmental public body. It is usually open to the public from 10:00 to 17:30, except on 25–26 December and 1 January. Admission is free.

Its remit for the overall history of British land forces contrasts with those of other military museums in the United Kingdom concentrating on the history of individual corps and regiments of the British Army. It also differs from the subject matter of the Imperial War Museum, another national museum in London, which has a wider remit of theme (war experiences of British civilians and military personnel from all three services) but a narrower remit of time (after 1914). It also covers the pre-independence history of the East India Company Army, the British Indian Army and other colonial units as well as housing the regimental or corps collections of the East Kent Regiment, the Middlesex Regiment the Women's Royal Army Corps, and the Irish regiments disbanded in 1922, part of that of the former Museum of Army Transport and the archives of the Coldstream Guards and Grenadier Guards.

1960-2014
The National Army Museum was first conceived in the late 1950s, and owes its existence to the persistent hard work of Field Marshal Sir Gerald Templer, who did most of the fundraising for it. It was established by Royal Charter in 1960, with the intention of collecting, preserving, and exhibiting objects and records relating to the Regular and Auxiliary forces of the British Army and of the Commonwealth, and to encourage research into their history and traditions. It was initially established in 1960 in temporary accommodation at the former No.1 Riding School at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst.

A new purpose-built building, designed in brutalist style by William Holford & Partners, was started in 1961 on a site which had previously formed part of the old infirmary of the Royal Hospital Chelsea. The new building was completed ten years later and opened by the Queen on 11 November 1971.

One director, Ian Robertson, initiated a programme to establish an outpost of the Museum in the garrison town of Catterick, North Yorkshire, to be known as National Army Museum North, on the model of Imperial War Museum's establishment of the Imperial War Museum North in Manchester. A large site was chosen near Marne Barracks, beside the A1, and in 2002 Simon Pierce of Austin-Smith:Lord was chosen as the new museum's architect. However, funding and planning issues later led to the cancellation of the plan in 2003. The National Army Museum instead underwent a major redevelopment of its gallery and corridor displays at Chelsea from 2006 onwards, establishing new displays in existing permanent display areas, converting the corridors from oil-painting displays to permanent-exhibition spaces, and producing new temporary and permanent display areas on the third floor. This redisplay concluded with the opening of the new permanent National Service gallery in October 2010, though a further phase of redevelopment followed from 2011 onwards.

2014-present
From 1 May 2014 until 30 March 2017, the museum was closed to the public for a major rebuilding programme. These refurbishment cost £23.75 million, of which £11.5 million was financed by the Heritage Lottery Fund: the works created five galleries that cover British military history from the English Civil War up to modern day. The rebuilding was overseen by BDP architects, and specialist museum design company, Event Communications.

Esther Dugdale from Event Communications noted that "The new museum aims to create a dialogue about the army – not to promote it, but bring the discussion of it into the public domain", and "The displays express its multi-layered history and relationship with the public. It does not shy away from some of the more difficult issues, but also gives a voice to the many who have served and what they have experienced". Dugdale also stated that the new design would be an "immersive experience", allowing visitors to ride simulated tanks, load rifles and understand war tactics in a technology-driven 3D environment.

In early March 2017, the Queen reopened the Museum, marking the completion of a three-year renovation. Whilst much public response to the revamp was positive, in an article in The Spectator, historian and Museum trustee Andrew Roberts severely criticised the new displays, stating: "Instead of seeing artefacts in a historical context, as part of a chronological narrative, the visitor is forced to explore themes, and as ever this has provided an opening for guilt, apology and political correctness"; he also pointed to incorrect statements, and suggested a generalised dumbing-down, writing of medal displays: "we are not told in very many cases what they are or even who they were awarded to." In 2022, in a follow-up article, Roberts announced that under new director Brigadier Justin Maciejewski, (the first leader of the museum to have first-hand experience of soldiering), the museum had "returned to the aims of its Royal Charter, anchored itself to historical facts rather than contemporary politicised fashions," and telling the Army's story from "an evidence-based, objective perspective." Maciejewski has explicitly rolled back on decolonisation and other attempts in the 2017 redisplay to deal with controversial aspects of the army's history, despite concerns raised earlier in his tenure about a focus on improving gender diversity in the Museum's staff whilst the real issue lay in other kinds of diversity, and about his January 2021 staff restructure, with concerns that it showed a "lack of consideration of professionalism and understanding of the core role of the museum as a public institution ensuring the preservation of history and exhibitions".

Galleries
The 2017 redisplay had a temporary display space (later split into a smaller and a larger space, the latter housing 'Foe to Friend', a 2020 exhibition on the BAOR now running until 2024) and five new permanent galleries: Soldier, Army, Battle and Society. By April 2023 Empire and Army had been replaced by Formation and Global respectively, with Battle replaced by Conflict in Europe on 7 April 2023 and Society due to be replaced by Army At Home in September 2023.

Governance
The National Army Museum achieved devolved status as a non-departmental public body in 1983 under terms of the National Heritage Act. The annual Grant-in-Aid from the Ministry of Defence, is administered by the Director of the Museum on behalf of the governing body, the board of trustees of the National Army Museum.

Directors

 * Lieutenant-Colonel Charles Bernard Appleby 1971–1975
 * John Paris 1975–1982
 * William Reid 1982–1988
 * Ian Robertson 1988–2003†
 * Alan Guy 2003–2010
 * Janice Murray 2010–2017
 * Justin Maciejewski 2018–

† = Died in post

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David S. Stanley

David Sloane Stanley (June 1, 1828 – March 13, 1902) was a Union Army general during the American Civil War. Stanley took part in the Second Battle of Corinth and the Battle of Stones River as a division commander. He was later made a corps commander under William Tecumseh Sherman and sent to Tennessee to oppose John Bell Hood's Army of Tennessee. At a critical moment in the Battle of Franklin (November 1864), he saved part of George D. Wagner’s division from destruction, earning America's highest military decoration, the Medal of Honor. Later he explored the Yellowstone River, and his favorable reports encouraged settlement of this region.

Early life
Stanley was born in Cedar Valley, Wayne County, Ohio. He graduated from West Point in 1852 and went to the Western frontier to survey railroad routes. He engaged in Indian fighting and was promoted to captain in March 1861, shortly before the outbreak of the Civil War. Stanley was on duty at Fort Washita in Indian Territory when war broke out. He led his men to Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.

Civil War
He fought at several battles in Missouri, including the Battle of Wilson's Creek, where he guarded the supply trains. President Abraham Lincoln appointed Stanley as brigadier general of U.S. Volunteers September 28, 1861, although the U.S. Senate did not confirm the appointment until March 7, 1862. Fighting in the Western Theater, he participated in the operations against New Madrid, Missouri and the Battle of Island Number Ten. He was involved in numerous major battles, including the Siege of Corinth, Battle of Iuka, and Second Battle of Corinth, where he commanded a division of infantry of the Army of the Mississippi, and the Battle of Stones River, in which he led the cavalry of the Army of the Cumberland. On March 11, 1863, Stanley was appointed major general of volunteers to rank from November 29, 1862. Stanley also led the Union cavalry in the Tullahoma Campaign. He fell ill late in 1863 and missed the Battle of Chickamauga. In 1864, he fought under William Tecumseh Sherman as a division commander in the IV Corps of the Army of the Cumberland during the Atlanta Campaign, and he was promoted to command of the corps when Maj. Gen. Oliver O. Howard was named commander of the Army of the Tennessee. After the capture of the city, instead of employing him marching to the sea, Sherman dispatched Stanley and his IV Corps to Tennessee to help protect the state from invasion by John Bell Hood's Army of Tennessee.

For leading one of his brigades in a successful counterattack during a critical moment in the fighting at the Battle of Franklin on November 30, 1864, the President of the United States on behalf of the United States Congress presented him with the Medal of Honor on March 29, 1893. Two of his divisions having been reassigned to the defensive lines of the XXIII Corps before the battle, Stanley had no actual command. Two brigades of the remaining division, under Brig. Gen. George D. Wagner, were overwhelmed by the initial Confederate assault, having been left in an exposed position. It was for his role in the counterattack by the 3rd Brigade of Wagner's division that Stanley was awarded the medal. He was wounded in the neck at the same time and had his horse shot out from under him. Maj. Gen. Jacob Cox, commanding the defenses, provided Stanley a remount with which to seek medical attention, and Stanley did not participate further in the battle. He returned to corps command only after the Battle of Nashville.

Postbellum career
After the war, Stanley was appointed colonel of the 22nd U.S. Infantry, primarily serving in the Dakota Territory until 1874. He commanded the Yellowstone Expedition of 1873, successfully conducting his troops through several unmapped areas, and his favorable reports on the country led to subsequent settlement of the region. In 1879, Stanley and his regiment were reassigned to Texas to suppress Indian raids in the western portion of the state. He was ordered to Santa Fe, New Mexico, in 1882, and placed in command of the District of New Mexico. In March 1884, he was appointed a brigadier general in the regular army, and assigned command of the Department of Texas. He retired in 1892.

Stanley was interred at the United States Soldiers' and Airmen's Home National Cemetery in Washington, D.C.

He was a First Class Companion of the Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the United States and a Hereditary Companion of the Military Order of Foreign Wars. In 1894 he became a member of the District of Columbia Society of the Sons of the American Revolution.

His son-in-law, Willard Ames Holbrook (married to his daughter, Anna Huntington Stanley, American Impressionist artist), also served as a major general in the U.S. Army. His only son, David Sheridan Stanley, and five of his grandsons (including Willard Ames Holbrook, Jr.) would later graduate from West Point. Additionally, his son, David Sheridan Stanley was the principal founder of the Army Navy Country Club, located in Arlington, VA.

Medal of Honor citation
Rank and Organization:
 * Major General, U.S. Volunteers. Place and Date: At Franklin, Tenn., November 30, 1864. Entered Service At: Congress, Wayne County, Ohio. Born: June 1, 1828, Cedar Valley, Ohio. Date of Issue: March 29, 1893.

Citation:
 * At a critical moment rode to the front of one of his brigades, reestablished its lines, and gallantly led it in a successful assault.

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Baldwin of Ibelin

Baldwin of Ibelin, also known as Baldwin II of Ramla (French: Baudouin d'Ibelin, early 1130s – c. 1187 or 1186/1188), was an important noble of the Kingdom of Jerusalem in the 12th century and was lord of Ramla from 1169-1186. He was the second son of Barisan of Ibelin, and was the younger brother of Hugh of Ibelin and older brother of Balian of Ibelin. He first appears in the historical record as a witness to charters in 1148.

In 1156, he may have planned to kill Ahmad ib. Muhammad ibn Qudama of Jamma'in. Ahmad's sermons had been gaining support throughout the region but after being warned of the threat against his life, he fled to Damascus, followed by other members of the Hanbali group.

After the death of his eldest brother Hugh (third husband of Agnes of Courtenay) in 1169, the castle of Ibelin passed to Baldwin, who remained Lord of Mirabel and Ramla and passed Ibelin to his younger brother Balian. He introduced the Lusignan family to court in 1174, in the person of Amalric of Lusignan, who had married his daughter Eschiva. Baldwin and Balian supported Raymond III of Tripoli over Miles of Plancy as regent for King Baldwin IV in 1174, and in 1177 the brothers were present at the Battle of Montgisard.

It is suspected that, after the death of his second wife Isabella, in 1177, he became Raymond of Tripoli's favoured candidate to marry the widowed Princess Sibylla of Jerusalem. His brother Balian had recently married her stepmother, Dowager Queen Maria Comnena. The Chronicle of Ernoul, or Old French Continuation of William of Tyre, partly written by a former squire of Balian, but thirteenth-century in its current form, claims that Baldwin and Sibylla had been in love and exchanged letters during Baldwin's captivity, but this is highly questionable.

Baldwin was captured in battle at Marj Uyun in 1179, along with Odo de St Amand, Grand Master of the Templars, and Raymond of Tripoli's stepson, Hugh of Tiberias. Baldwin was ransomed by Byzantine emperor Manuel I Comnenus, and later in 1180 he visited Constantinople. Supposedly, the emperor sat him in a chair and covered him up to his head in the gold coins that were to be used as his ransom money. During his stay in Constantinople, the emperor died. Baldwin was in Jerusalem at the time of Sibylla's wedding in 1180. Raymond of Tripoli seems to have been planning a coup to marry Sibylla to Baldwin, but the king needed to marry her to a non-native, in order gain support for another crusade from the west. She was married to Guy of Lusignan, younger brother of Baldwin of Ibelin's son-in-law Amalric. That same year, the king betrothed his younger half-sister Isabella of Jerusalem, Balian's stepdaughter, to Humphrey IV of Toron, to further reduce the Ibelins' influence.

In 1183 he supported Raymond against Guy, who was by now regent for the ailing Baldwin IV. Lord Baldwin was among the barons who advised the king to crown Sibylla's son Baldwin V in 1183, while Baldwin IV was still alive; this was an attempt to prevent Guy from succeeding as king. Baldwin V became sole king while still a child in 1185, and when the young king died in 1186, Sibylla was crowned queen with Guy as her consort. The Ibelins and Raymond favoured the accession of Isabella, but Humphrey refused to be crowned and cause a civil war, and instead swore allegiance to Sibylla and Guy. All the other barons of the kingdom paid homage to Guy as well, except for Raymond and Baldwin. Baldwin placed his young son Thomas under the care of his brother Balian, and exiled himself to the Principality of Antioch, where he was welcomed with great fanfare.

Baldwin considered Guy "a madman and a fool", and refused to pay homage because his father had not paid homage to Guy's father (i.e., regarding Guy as an upstart incomer, where Baldwin was a native baron). He refused to return to Jerusalem to assist Guy against Saladin, and probably died in his self-imposed exile in 1187.

Family
Baldwin of Ibelin married three times. His wives were:

1. Richilde de Bethsan, before or in 1157, divorced and annulled 1174. They had three children:
 * Thomas d'Ibelin (before 1175 – in or c. 1188), Lord of Ramla, unmarried and without issue
 * Stephanie (or Etiennette) d'Ibelin, married Amand, Viscount of Nablus
 * Eschive d'Ibelin (c. 1160 – Cyprus in Winter, 1196/1197), married Amalric of Lusignan before October 29, 1175; Queen-consort of Cyprus (1194-1196), mother of Hugh I of Cyprus. (After her death, Amalric married Isabella of Jerusalem and became King of Jerusalem.)

2. Isabelle or Elizabeth Goman, (widow of Hugh Grenier, Lord of Caesarea), married 1175, d. 1177 or 1178, no surviving issue.

3. Marie, daughter of Renier, Constable of Tripoli, m. after April, 1180, d. after 1228, no surviving issue.

Another Baldwin of Ibelin was the son of this Baldwin's nephew John of Ibelin, the Old Lord of Beirut.

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Rouse Up O Young Men of the New Age!

Rouse Up O Young Men of the New Age! (新しい人よ、眼ざめよ; Atarashii hito yo mezameyo) is a 1983 semi-autobiographical novel by Japanese author Kenzaburō Ōe, about his day-to-day life with his mentally handicapped son, Hikari (represented by an alter ego called "Eeyore") and the effect that William Blake's poetry has had on both his life and work.

Plot summary
Ōe wishes to write a set of definitions to prepare handicapped children like his son for the real world. He struggles with definitions for concepts such as "death," only to learn that his son Eeyore has just as much to teach him about life. Ōe relates his interpretations of events with Eeyore in light of Blake's poetry, and discusses the influence of and similarities between Blake's work on his own.

Editions in English
(translated by John Nathan)
 * hardback ISBN 0-8021-1710-4
 * paperback ISBN 0-8021-3968-X

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Talk:Boeing 717

Problems with recent edit (reverted and re-reverted)
"With the 1997 merger taking prior to production..." - grammatically incorrect (taking place? happening?)

"...design range of 2,060 nautical miles [nmi] (3,820 km; 2,370 mi)." -- nautical miles was already spelled out and linked by the unit conversion template, what is the nmi in square brackets even doing here?

In the lead, "broader DC-9 family" is redundant, making the lead longer for no good reason. (if it is a product family, of course it includes other models).

Fbergo (talk) 00:44, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

 * 1) Fair point. Changed.
 * 2) nmi is a rare unit of measure outside of aviation, for a generalist encyclopedia I felt it helpful to clarify the abbreviation at first usage.
 * 3) Agreed it’s a bit clunky, but it’s also the way most of the DC-9 pages are worded. RickyCourtney (talk) 04:51, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

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User talk:Christopher Welsh

Ben Bolt
As far as I'm concerned, feel free to take the Cleanup notice of Ben Bolt if you really think it's inappropriate, but much of it still reads to me like a piece of self-publicity. Frankly, it's not a topic I care a lot about, and I didn't put the cleanup tag on it. I encountered it only because I was in the process of doing a bunch of cleanup on miscellaneous pages. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:45, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)

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HMS Prince (1788)

HMS Prince was a 98-gun second rate ship of the line of the Royal Navy, launched on 4 July 1788 at Woolwich. She fought at the Battle of Trafalgar.

Life
She saw relatively little action during her career and seems to have been a relatively poor sailer—she sailed, according to one observing captain, 'like a haystack.'

She was not immediately commissioned on the outbreak of war with Revolutionary France, lying in ordinary at Portsmouth in April 1794. Her hull was lengthened in 1796.

Trafalgar
By 1805 she was in service with the Channel Fleet under Captain Richard Grindall. At the Battle of Trafalgar, in October that year, she was passed by her whole division, and took over two hours to cover the two or three miles to reach the battle. By the time she arrived most of the enemy fleet was in British hands or had fled, leaving few targets for Prince's massive broadsides. She did fire on the Spanish flagship Principe de Asturias and Achille, but was not attacked and suffered no damage or casualties. Whilst engaging Prince, Achille's fore top caught fire, and the next broadside against her brought her blazing main mast down, engulfing the ship in flames. At this point, knowing that Achille's fate was sealed and making the most of his unique position, Grindall ceased firing and wore round to clear her, before placing boats in the water to rescue French seamen from Achille and elsewhere. This proved hazardous: Achille's abandoned but loaded guns were set off by the intense heat now raging below decks, and she exploded at 5:45 pm, by which point only 100 men had been rescued from her. Nonetheless, Prince and nearby British ships were able to rescue hundreds of sailors from the water.

In the week of ferocious storms which followed the battle the sturdy Prince was invaluable, providing replacement stores to more battered ships, towing those that needed it, and saving many men from the heavily damaged other ships. She and the other undamaged British ships saved many others that would otherwise have sunk and at one point saved 350 men from the sinking Santíssima Trinidad who would otherwise have drowned, taking them to Gibraltar. Upon arrival there, however, she was ready to sail again in a matter of hours.

Later life
After the war she remained in Portsmouth until withdrawn from service and was broken up in 1837.

title: HMS Prince (1788)