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Saqsin

Saqsin (a.k.a. Saksin, Saksin-Bolgar) was a medieval city that flourished from the eleventh to the thirteenth centuries. It was situated in the Volga Delta (modern-day Astrakhan Oblast), or in the Lower Volga region, and was known in pre-Mongol times as Saksin-Bolgar, which in Mongol times became Sarai Batu. It was mentioned by the Arab geographer al-Gharnati and the Persian Qazwini, among others, and recorded as "the land of the Saksins" in the report of Friar Benedict of Poland about the 1246 trip of Giovanni da Pian del Carpine through the camp of Mongol prince Batu Khan on the shores of the Volga. S.A. Pletneva locates Saksin between present Volgograd and Akhtubinsk.

Friar Benedict apparently misunderstood the name as somehow connected with the Saxons of Germany, stating incorrectly that the inhabitants were Christians and "believed to be Goths" related to those of Crimea. In actuality, they were probably Turkic and Muslim.

Saqsin may be an Arabized version of Sarighsin, Turkic for "Yellow City" or "White city". The identity of its inhabitants is unclear, though Carpine reports that Saksin province was inhabited by Kumans. It was situated near the ruins of Atil, the old Khazar capital, but there is no indication that it was part of any latter-day Khazar polity. It was situated in Kipchak territory and may have been the center for one of their principalities. Some sources claim that it was under the influence of the Volga Bulgars.

Excavations
Beginning in 2003 Dmitry Vasilyev of Astrakhan State University led a series of excavations at the Samosdelskoye site near the village of Samosdelka (Самосделка) in the Volga Delta. Vasilyev connected artifacts from the middle strata with Khazar, Oghuz and Bulgar culture, leading him to believe that he had discovered the site of Saqsin. The matter is still unresolved. Sarai Batu was excavated by a number of expeditions exploring the center of the city, and was probably located on the periphery of the original Saqsin. The ruins of Atil appear to be underneath the layers presumed to represent Saqsin.

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Talk:Microsoft GIF Animator

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This image is being linked here; though the picture is subject to copyright I (havarhen) feel it is covered by the U.S. fair use laws because:
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Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/JonGwynne/Proposed decision

I welcome the findings-of-fact, though I would like to have seen JG's violation of NPOV more explcitly stated.

However, the remedies so far proposed are rather weak. I would like to see a more explicit expression of disapproval of his behaviour; ideally a ban from editing the contentious climate pages for a week or a month.

Also:

 * If he re-inserts any edits which are judged by a majority of those commenting on the relevant talk page in a 24-hour poll to be a violation of the NPOV policy, then he shall be temp-banned for a short time, up to one week. Repeat deletions of text, similarly judged to result in a violation of NPOV, shall be treated in the same way.

is ambiguous. Does it mean, he re-inserts the edits, this is subsequently discussed, and then he gets banned; or does it mean he re-inserts edits, it gets discussed, then he re-inserts them, then he gets banned? In either case, it seems rather cumbersome.

(William M. Connolley 18:23, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)).

 * (William M. Connolley 10:05, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)) The one-revert proposal is an excellent remedy and solves my objections above.

re: POV parole
The group of articles related to global warming deal with complex and variably controversial scientific topics. The group of dedicated editors who have worked to achieve a degree of completeness and balance in the articles are serious editors with a wide background and perspective. There will likely always be disagreement on details, but these editors work and discuss to present a reasonably balanced product. The strong POV edits that JonGwynne tried to impose were resisted by editors from both sides of the issue. Any similar strong POV edits or major edits that are not discussed on the talk pages in advance will likely be resisted and referred to discussion. This should be the way to proceed in controversial areas. In view of JonGwynne's past behavior his edits will be closely monitored and any repeat of POV edits and reverts by him should be reason for blocking. This proposed parole is reasonable. The editors involved are not a mob, as accused by a recent JonGwynne supporter, but a group of serious individuals with a wide range of backgrounds and perspectives. -Vsmith 06:09, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Sandra Chapin

Sandra I am sorry for the intrusion I have always been a Fan of Harry since I first heard him sing I never done anything like this before but I just watched the documentary when in doubt,do something and cried my eyes out I alway knew his music and knew he Harry was a good guy and I have alway led my life trying to be a good guy I play the song stranger with the melody at least once a week Sorry once again for the intrusion I just had to let you know what Harry’s music means to me Biggest hugs Patrick Dempsey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patdempsey (talk • contribs) 12:06, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Disputed status

 * Without some evidence to support the statements, I think this should go into the Votes-for-Deletion bin, but I wanted to wait on that until some time to provide supporting evidence had passed. Thanks for considering adding supporting evidence.  Courtland 18:23, 2005 Feb 26 (UTC)

Yes, she wrote songs
The credits for "Cat's In The Cradle" list both Harry and Sandy Chapin as authors, as does the song "Tangled Up Puppet" (see "Harry Chapin: A Legacy in Song" ISBN 0-89524-327-X). While certain musicians do provide writing credits as a method to split income / royalties, it does not appear to be the case here, as very few songs were attributed to both Harry and Sandy.

I recommend retaining this stub to properly attribute Sandra Chapin as co-writer of the song "Cat's in the Cradle"; it did after all hit #1 twice (Harry's recording and Ugly Kid Joe's version as well).

David P.

Former maintainer of "Rainy Nights in 'Frisco: The Harry Chapin FAQ"

Harry died of a heart attack. So the statement that a "car accident [that] took his life" is misleading.203.184.41.226 (talk) 07:29, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

No, he didn't die of a heart attack
He died of a torn aorta from the force of the accident, and bled out, causing his heart to stop. There's a difference. 75.161.16.253 (talk) 02:38, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Pop'n Music

Stylizing
The only site I can find that capitalizes it "pop'n music" is Konami's own, which also happens to always capitalize Konami as KONAMI. If we're going to switch to always using manufacturer's capitalizations rather than ones in common use, a lot of pages need to be changed. Note also that the Ransai and Desktop Arcade sites call it "Pop'n", and in most online stores (e.g. [Play-Asia]) it's capitalized "Pop'n".

 * You could always do it like the DDR pages, where the full title as used by Konami is used for the title and for formal references, while common usages are mentioned in the intro and used in the main text. The problem is that even Konami isn't always consistent - there are usages of "DrumMania", "drummania", and "drum mania" all on Konami's websites. --Poiuytman 14:13, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * I actually now doubt my previous notions that lowercase pop'n music is the definitive way to spell the game. On various areas of Konami's Pop'n World website, I've seen pop'n music, Pop'n music, Pop'n Music, and POP'N MUSIC. Often, Konami just uses the Japanese spelling, ポップンミュージック. As such, I cannot sufficiently defend one capitalization over another. My thoughts are to return the article to the original neutral spelling, Pop'n Music. --Poiuyt Man (talk)  22:17, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Gameplay
Can someone clarify under the gameplay section what the large sprites on each side of the screen do exactly? Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.214.37.213 (talk) 20:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Timer
So… anyone know the answer to the great pop'n music controversy, is the character Timer a boy or a girl? ;) Tim! (talk) 18:26, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Timer is almost always considered a boy due to his short hair and no breasts (childish as pop'n is, most of the female characters have curves [Judy], or else long hair/skirts [Poet]) but most of the cosplays of him that I've seen were girls.

Commercial
Should commercial links be allowed? The commercial links to the ASC controllers seem a little shady to me. You mean the DJ Dao link? That seems like total advertising to me, I'm removing it. If anyone disagrees and can give good reason for it to remain (the fact that it's probably the only place to get GOOD IIDX/Popn controllers is NOT a viable reason) then please, put it back (and give reasoning for doing so). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.19.3.218 (talk) 01:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Any relation?
I can't help but wonder if there is a connection between Pop'n Music and Pop'n Twinbee, a childish top-down shooter from yesteryear. The design seems similar, both are owned by Konami, and the Twinbee theme has appeared remixed in several Dance Dance Revolution games (Extreme and Extreme 2, that I know of.) I think that if this is the case, then there should be some mention. Lunis Neko 06:23, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Challenge Mode
There should be a small section on challenge mode, since the other modes are listen on there. Anyone willing to take a stab at it? Don't forget to mention how the mode itself has evolved throughout the series.

MusicMania
Any info on the upcoming amercian-ized version that Konami is introducing? --68.97.75.170 03:49, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Based on information from a cursory English-language Google search, the only thing coming up for "MusicMania konami" is a couple mentions on Bemanistyle. There is currently no evidence to support that MusicMania (whatever it is) is a US version of Pop'n (despite how much I want it to be). 64.212.175.249 20:08, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The press release on Konami's website for the game does state that it's "based on a popular Konami music game series in Japan". It's likely they are talking about Pop'n. --OrangeRight 04:39, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Seems unlikely because of where it says "three or five buttons." No mention at all of nine buttons. So I doubt that this MusicMania game is at all related to Popn. tyam 19:20, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I stand corrected. That statement does hint that the gameplay is going to be similar, but it's probably not going to be an official Pop'n title. --OrangeRight 03:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

This is retarded.
The page on this game is longer than that of George Washington counting only by how many times I've had to press the space bar.

Hugs and Kisses 24.187.124.187 (talk) 00:17, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Huge list of characters
This list is excessively long and poorly written. It's not even properly wikified. I'm going to remove the section, since it really doesn't belong on Wikipedia as it is. If some of the characters are notable for some reason, then the section can and probably should be recreated with them, but in proper paragraph format and not as a really long list of trivia. 99.234.220.88 (talk) 01:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Maruroo
I think we should restore the character list, I would like to know who this is. --Ranze (talk) 05:21, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

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Only in Japan!
Uuuuuhhh AdwenKnowItAll (talk) 01:55, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

In desperate need of sources
I love this game like my own child but even the japanese wikia's sources are severely lacking. We might need to hit the books on arcade subjects to get more citations. Deku link (talk) 01:48, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Super pop pop music by Konami. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 21 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 07:32, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Nellie McKay

21 really?
Do you all buy the fact that she was born in '84 not '82? I wouldn't be suprised is she decided to claim she was only 19 to give a sort of child prodigy vibe to her work. Why would her father lie?
 * Please sign your comments. In answer to your question, apparently McKay isn't exactly cozy with her old man, so such things do need to be taken with a grain of salt. In any event, McKay would hardly be the first performer to fudge her age. Fact is, according to all official sources she was born in 84. The fact there is a claim made of a different birth year cannot be ignored, and has been acknowledged. Beyond that there isn't much else that can be done unless an official, verifiable, unrelated source indicates otherwise. 23skidoo 05:23, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * She was not really born in 1984, nor even on December 13. In addition to her father's own testimony, she also graduated from high school and started college in 2000, at her claimed age of 15 which is extremely unlikely. Even her British birth certificate supposedly gives the 1982 date. Anyway, try googling it --Fallout boy 06:18, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Good detective work! 23skidoo 15:31, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

"McKay was born in London, England, on April 13, 1982, but has spent most of her life in the United States." http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/bio/index.jsp?pid=591005 (Brodey)

Sony probably wanted to sell her as a younger artist, and McKay complied. Sony has done this with other female artists in the past, notably Heather Nova in the mid-90s. 66.90.150.79 22:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

 * I agree. I think it's something that she's trying to play it down now. The last paragraph of this article explains that Nellie's website originally listed her age as 19 years and then later removed all reference to age.--Abie the Fish Peddler (talk) 00:32, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

==Style Nellie McKay is a brilliant artist who delights in spreading her opinions and political messages through songs the tunes and music of which have a mix of jazz, chimes and rap--Nellie McKay's rapping in songs such as Sari could be compared to that of the band Blondie in songs such as Rapture.==

This passage sounds like it would belong on a nellie mckay fan page, not an encyclopedic article i think it should be edited or removed. (Brodey)
 * Feel free to delete or edit such things when you find them - Be bold as the Wikipedia guide says. I've killed this section for the reasons you state and also because it simply duplicates content already covered in the introduction. 23skidoo 15:19, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Threepenny Opera
The article says she has been announced to appear in Threepenny Opera, and she has in fact been appearing in that play since its "preview" opening the last week of March. There aren't any formal reviews (the official opening night is April 20, and I understand tradition dictates that preview performances aren't subject to review), though reviews submitted by theatergoers to sites such as The New York Times are mixed at best. Actually, a sizeable majority of these nonprofessional reviewers give the play a thumbs-down, though they have little to say about Nellie McKay's performance. The larger issue, it seems, is Wallace Shawn's translation/adaption of the Brecht original. For instance, the lead character, Mack the Knife, has been written to be a bisexual, and homo-erotic themes are prevalent throughout. Some also found the liberal use of vulgarities to be unappealing, though some conceded that the irreverent Brecht would likely approve. As for Nellie, she plays Polly Peachum, whom I believe is married to Mack the Knife (the character's name is actually MacHeath, but he is indeed the inspiration for Mack the Knife), and more than one person wrote to say they appreciated her "dry" sense of humor and enjoyed one of her musical numbers that was a contradition to her all-white, virginal appearance in the play. Actual Wikipedia writers/editors would need to check my facts and spellings before using any of this. Thanks for the opportunity to contribute. -- rlmcyd@aol.com.

Lovely! Now someone has updated the article to say Nellie is playing "Sally." Actually, Nellie is playing Polly Peachum. There is no Sally in the Threepenny Opera. -- rlmcyd@aol.com

 * The majority of the above is only appropriate at The Threepenny Opera. It's sufficient here to say that she plays Polly, and a word or two about her reception. --Dhartung | Talk 23:24, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

CD release
I see the article says that her new CD is scheduled for Oct 31 release. Was this changed recently? According to a local music shop here in Calgary, the CD was supposed to be released on Oct. 24. Maybe they got the info wrong? 23skidoo 02:27, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Official label site says October 31. The NYT said it would be available digitally on October 24, though. --Dhartung | Talk 02:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I bet that's what happened - the store saw the digital release date and posted that. Thanks. 23skidoo 02:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * For whatever reason the actual release of the album in Canada (and apparently elsewhere) was delayed until Nov. 21 so I indicated this in the article. However can anyone confirm for certain that the album was actually available in US stores on the 31st or was its release similarly delayed down there? 23skidoo 15:28, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It did appear in US stores on the scheduled date. It didn't get a big release, but they did have it in at least one store I went to.Raymondluxuryacht 17:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Rumor Has It soundtrack
Shouldn't there be a mention of the songs Nellie McKay contributed to the "Rumour Has It" soundtrack? What about adding a discography for her?

LGBT
Is she a lesbian or bisexual? If so, there are categories for musicians in these categories where she should be listed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.86.240.98 (talk) 18:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC).
 * Something like that should only be added if she has officially "come out." Otherwise it could be considered slander.Antmusic 16:42, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

She is straight. There is an interview with her discussing the song 'David', where the song is really about someone named David and she is in fact quite enamored with him. He is a college professor. She mentions in this interview that when she is down, holding onto (hugging) "her man" is one of the few things that will cheer her up. She also mentions that hugging people like a friend or her mother are not as good as hugging a man. 66.90.150.79 22:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think she would say something that non-sarcastically, so I don't think it proves she is straight. We can't know either way.69.120.62.28 (talk) 03:27, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

She self-identified as straight in 2004 Hogan (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:34, 4 October 2009 (UTC).

Bad, Bad External Link
Hi! I don't know how to edit links but under external links there is one listed as "Nellie McKay - WebSite and Forum" however I'm pretty sure that this website:

http://www.buttsacrossamerica.com/buttshot_pages/charoltte_motor_speedway.html

should not be showing up when I click on that particular link.

Someone who actually appreciates and respects Nellie McKay please fix this error. Thanks!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eolandra (talk • contribs)

Name
All Music Guide gives her name as Eleanora Marie McKay instead of Nell Marie McKay. Which one's right? - DNewhall 12:42, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I Love You
She plays Ciara in this movie. Why is there no reference to her here or in the P.S. I Love You article? Or on IMDB for that matter?

Note issue
In the Note 1 of this page, it states the controversy over her age (leading some to recall an incident in which Sony's misrepresented the age of one of its female artists). Should it not behoove someone to actually cite or notate these previous episodes? Also, how many is 'some'? And are we sure they were 'recalling'? Wouldn't some more objective language, like 'similar to a previous incident (citation needed)'? Thomas banacek (talk) 01:27, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm going to be bold and remove that part of the note. It's irrelevant without further information, and it also suggests that Sony was behind the age issue, which it may not have been. I don't think that part of the note is needed at all and in fact I believe it to be a recent addition as I remember reading that note when it first went up and I don't recall ever seeing that accusation made. 68.146.64.9 (talk) 16:28, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Career section
The Career section has subsections that cover a single year (2004, 2005, and so on). I think that instead there should be subsections that cover multiple years, as in the featured articles Madonna and Mariah Carey. Something like:

 * 2004–2006
 * 2007–present

Unless I hear any objections, I will incorporate this change. AroundLAin80Days (talk) 16:54, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I went ahead and made this change. My decision to have the first period end in 2006 and the second period begin in 2007 was somewhat arbitrary. As her career progresses, we might find that it makes sense to configure the time periods differently. AroundLAin80Days (talk) 22:20, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Collaboration with a Band Not Mentioned?
The song "Light And Night" by Tally Hall featured Nellie McKay and was released on September 8th/9th 2009 as a free download from http://mp3.walmart.com/elephant with the purchase of Kate DiCamillo’s book The Magician’s Elephant. However, it does not seem to be mentioned in this article. I'm not sure why it was not mentioned, but I hope it will be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stygtality (talk • contribs) 03:32, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

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