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Woodridge, Illinois' own Mad Scientist and local fire hazard

Electrical Breakdown
Very nice edit Bert!! I actually enjoyed reading it and it flows very well. Some good extra info also. well done!Light current 04:48, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Solarization
I have taken the liberty of creating a new article for Solarization as it seems to be sufficently different from Solarisation to justify this. I have also cross linked them to assist navigation. Unfortunately this means that your edit only appears against the Solarisation article at present but further additions to Solarization would be welcome. Velela 19:15, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Coin shrinking
Bert, Ive sent you a private email at your Stoneridge email address re coin shrinking. Please have look!--Light current 00:24, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Dielectric absorption
Could you please create an article about the dielectric absorption, which you put an information into Supercapacitor? I would like to learn what it means ;-) --Zureks 13:52, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Capacitance
Why did you remove the following texts from capacitance?
 * It is instructive to use the farad to test the claim that all units can be reduced to the SI minima of kilograms, meters, seconds, and coulombs. For our purposes, we start with the equations W = QV and Q = CV, whence the units of capacitance (C) are those of Q squared over W (work). Now, Q squared is measured in coulombs squared (fundamental SI units), while W is measured in newton-meters, with one newton equating to one kilogram-meter per second squared, whence the unis of W are kilogram-meters squared per second squared. Dividing through, one finds that the farad is equivalent to one coulomb squared-second squared per kilogram-meter squared in base SI units.--Doktor Who 13:31, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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 * Maxwell's equation combining Ampere's law with the displacement current concept is given as curl H = dD/dt + J, where, in keeping with notational stricture, curl is emboldened because it is a vector operator. (Integrating both sides, the integral of curl H can be replaced—courtesy of Stokes's theorem—with the integral of H ● dl over a closed contour, thus demonstrating the interconnection with Ampere's formulation.)

I understand that some heavy improvement is needed, but deletion is too drastic. --Doktor Who 13:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I apparently accidentally edited an earlier copy of the article, which deleted some of the later text. Sorry about that - I've reinserted the text. I agree that it does add value. Sorry about the error... Bert 01:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Nevermind, that happens sometimes (see the article electric guitar, I'm not going to fix it cos I'm sure that a bot would revert me, eheh); thx for quick edit.--Doktor Who 09:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

The displacement current does not make sense. In fact all current makes no sense. If there can be a displacement current then why, do you need any electrons to exist ever?

In power engineering current can be a property of the power SOURCE, ie, a battery, with extra current, a step down transformer that steps down the voltage and increases the current. In electronics, current is ALWAYS a property of the load. Hmm, in my physics lab, we "proved" the electron existed, and calculated the amount of electrons on a LED circuit based strictly on voltage. What happens if you put many batteries in parallel, increasing the current, but keeping the voltage the same? the LED shines brighter, but now I have increaded the amount of electrons, with the same voltage. So tell me, is "current" a property of the load, or the SOURCE? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.89.32.166 (talk) 02:20, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I assume your circuit consisted of a voltage source, a current limiting resistor (R) (possibly inside the LED), and an LED? An ideal voltage source (Vs) has no internal resistance (0 ohms). The LED is a type of diode that will have a fairly constant voltage (Vd) across its terminals when it is conducting. The overall current in the loop will be I = (Vs-Vd)/R. Simply adding an identical ideal voltage source in parallel with the first source will not change the overall current going through the LED, since Vs remains the same for either case. However, if you are actually using a non-ideal voltage source (such as a battery), the source itself will also have some internal resistance, and its output voltage will drop as you draw current from it. In this case, it is indeed possible that connecting two identical batteries in parallel will cause the LED to brighten a bit. As this example illustrates, current can be a function of BOTH the source and the load. Bert (talk) 19:31, 20 July 2008 (UTC) Let's just say that in a resistor type load on a power source power is Vs squared/R, and is divided up inversly proportional to whereever the R values are located.WFPMWFPM (talk) 12:41, 28 August 2008 (UTC)WFPMWFPM (talk) 12:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Electric shock
Thanks for the link. I'm actually an EE myself, but, like most recently minted EEs, I have precious little experience with power engineering. I asked the question due to my being the victim of some power-related negligence (to the tune of 56 V). I'm still alive, thankfully, but I worry about future victims. I don't know whether it was AC or DC; I suppose I should have asked the electrician. Calbaer 06:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

You're quite welcome - work (and play) safely! Bert 22:12, 15 August 2006 (UTC) Hi! Welcome to the Wikipedia Electron program; where it is possibleto propose all sorts of properties for a small electrically charged nuclear particle, including the possibility that it doesn't exist! But i'm also an EE, and I.ve made my share of proposals. But mostly in the field of nuclear physics where we need something to radiate electromagnetic energy in the form of angular momentum, which means at the end of a radius arm. So welcome in and join the crowd. And good luck! WFPMWFPM (talk) 04:18, 12 July 2008 (UTC)Of course I'm talking about resistance in series.WFPMWFPM (talk) 12:52, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks Bert
Thanks for your edits on the lightning page! I appreciate your attention to detail.
 * With regards to your replacement of "AC" with "transients", I am in agreement that it is such.... but reality is there is little to nothing out there to back the use of "transients", representations of the waveform, and or other means to draw a clear distinction as to why we are concerned about impedance or skin effect. My use of wording "similar to AC" was to make that connection clearer.  Maybe you could think of something along those lines?  Maybe something to due with multiple strokes... cause a "pulsy" current that is "cycling", more similar to AC cycling that straight line DC???

 * Lightning discharge current transients consist of very fast leading edges and slower falling edges. It can be shown that a lightning current pulse is actually composed of sums of high frequency components (see Fourier Transform). It is these high frequency current components that are most impacted by skin effect - the faster the rise and fall times, the higher the frequency components making up the transient. However, even more important than path resistance is the path inductance, since the voltage drop along the path will be proportional to the rate of change in current times the inductance (V = L*di/dt). For example, a lightning strike that rises to 50 kA in 5 microseconds has a di/dt of 10^10 Amperes/second. A straight AWG #0 wire will have a an inductance of about 250 nH/ft, so the inductive voltage developed across the grounding conductor will be ~2500 volts/foot in addition to any resistive drop.

 * Noting leader generation is easily seen, captured by high speed video, etc. I have some serious concerns... as (& correct me if I'm wrong) most video & pictures of this which "demonstrate the ease" of seeing leader generation are during CC flashes, WHEN "termination to a solid surface starting discharge is impossible to tell.  A downward leader in CG attaching to a streamer, there is little doubt when the discharge begins... and all those supposed "visible" leaders are functions of the primary stroke channel, and our observational perception of the branches ["visible leaders"] is they appear to be growing outward due to the fluctuating brightness.

 * Leaders (and especially leader tips) are quite luminous during propagation. The comparatively high current (amperes to 10's of amperes) is much higher than dimmer corona or glow discharges. They are simply much dimmer than the return stroke and they propagate at high velocity, making them hard to see in "real time". Propagating leaders have been extensively studied for HV laboratory sparks as well as for negative and positive lightning, and avalanche, streamer, and leader propagation processes are fairly well understood (see Yuri P Raizer, "Gas Discharge Physics", Springer-Verlag, 1997, ISBN 3540194622). For lightning, they are observed to propagate in steps (negative leaders) or relatively smoothly (positive leaders). Some good examples of both types of luminous propagating leaders can be seen on Tom Warner's site: http://www.ztresearch.com/projects/highspeed/index.html

I think for a matter of trying to distinguish the longer duration period of leader propagation and the often ignored development steps required for a flash to occur, before discharge can even occur, we are doing a major disservice to all saying it is easily captured. Is the general reader going to be able to distinguish the difference [physical reality versus observational perception], I really think not when they often fail to recognize the simple observation/perceptional properties of "if a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound?" and honestly question "Does lightning always produce thunder? I saw lightning, but never hear thunder?" Do you get where I'm going here? Thanks again! There is still lots of work to do here. uggg, but it will happen! Borealdreams (talk) 02:02, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

 * Science is full of phenomena that cannot be directly observed. These phenomena are often "easily" observable when using the appropriate pieces of equipment, such as Tom Warner's high speed video cameras. If we ignore underlying phenomena because they are not observable with our unassisted senses, then we are doing a disservice to Wikipedia readers by omitting important (and known) pieces of the lightning puzzle. "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" A. Einstein... :^)

 * I've just learned a lot in what you have written. Conceptually, I believe I'm very well informed about lightning, whereby I can put it all together or as needed here, break it all apart into enough "parts" so the average wiki reader can grasp the complexities of it, to understand it is not just a "flash of light in the sky".  I would have believed there were others out there, who would understand both well enough to have made this page of much better quality... but that's never occurred.  So alas, I look forward to your assistance in filling in the details where I fall short or where I unintentionally error in my judgement.  What you've written has shed new light on the matter, so I've reorganized accordingly, and hoping you might find some room for filling in the blanks accordingly.  I've been considering (heavily) moving the flash processes section out of lightning and into lightning strike, given I feel it is better understood & representative of CG than IC/CG and that is might remove some "overwhelming" factor from this page given the extensiveness of the material needing to be covered.  Thanks again! :)  Borealdreams (talk) 08:02, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

 * Thanks - will do as time permits. Bert (talk) 21:33, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I've been seeing the edits, great! Very interesting art you do by the way!  Do your friends call you "Sparky"? :)  Quick question (detail not needed) - Does "Positive" lightning only happen in CG, or can it happen in IC&CC as well, or do we really not know as it is a "referential" nomenclature, and we not physically measuring it in the clouds?
 * I'm seriously considering moving the "lightning formation" sections out of Lightning, potentially creating a new page "Lightning Flash" as it's getting confusing given we are using Negative CG Downward as the "example" which then begs the question, "Why isn't it in Lightning Strike?" Following me?  I'm setting this up & related on my user page, if you want to take a gander & give me your thoughts.  Thanks again!  Borealdreams (talk) 17:26, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Thanks also for the kind words - we're getting ready to make some more Lichtenberg Figures in early June. The internal potential on our Plexiglas specimens can reach about 2.5 million volts, making discharging them "interesting"... :^) The internal discharges are actually "positive leaders", and they leave behind positive Lichtenberg figures.

 * Positive lightning is defined as lightning that is preceded by long positive leaders that are propagating from a more positively charged source/cloud region to a less positive, neutral, or negatively charged region. The positive charge source can be a portion of a thunderstorm (most often the top/anvil, but not always), or an elevated grounded object that is inductively charged by a negative charged cloud region above. Although positive lightning is most often observed as CG lightning, it also occurs within IC, CC, and even cloud to clear air discharges. I assume that a "lightning strike" is defined as a CG discharge (of either polarity)(?) - i.e., a subset of the broader classes of all lightning discharges.Bert (talk) 23:31, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

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Merge with opponent process
Is there any real reason to have a page each for the singular and plural versions of this subject? It seems that these would be good merge candidates. slambo 21:21, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * User:Kcordina merged and redirected in April 2006, but was reverted by bot. I think she merged in the wrong direction anyway, as opponent process was where all the content history is. I'm redirecting this article to there, but placing the only paragraph that originated here, into the talk page, as it makes no sense to me, and includes an irrelevant tangent on homeostasis as related to drug use. --Quiddity 20:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

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Susan Aceron

Susan Flores Aceron (July 6, 1972 – October 9, 2016) was a Canadian actress and businesswoman who appeared in several film and television roles. She was best known for voicing Sailor Pluto in the Cloverway English adaptation of Sailor Moon. She also voiced a number of roles in Beyblades.

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On October 9, 2016, Aceron died of nasopharyngeal carcinoma at the age of 44.

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Talk:Nellie Kim

Tidying
I was tidying up the English on this page (found on a Random-Page voyage), and noticed that her forename was spelt in two ways. When I checked the two external links in order to discover the correct spelling (they didn't solve my problem, incidentally), I found that the current Wikipepedia article was lifted pretty well word for word from it; the minor omissions and alterations don't help, I think. Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 21:24, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, it was the copyvio by the creator of the article. By the way it was I that added a link which you followed and did a conclusion, that it was copyvio :-) I compiled an article using various public domain sources to replace copyvio under Nelli Kim/Temp, you are welcome to look through it. Cmapm 03:42, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry not to have noticed what you'd done. I've just copy-edited the text (tidied the English a little), but it looks fine. Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 23:41, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Byelorussian SSR vs Belarusian SSR
Before 1991 at least in all UNO documents it was translated as "Byelorussian SSR", see, , therefore, I changed "Belarusian SSR" (recent edit by somebody) to "Byelorussian SSR". Cmapm 18:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

POV issues introduced recently
I removed some of them, some other reworded. Among the removed ones was, I believe, a very strong POV:

"Comaneci came out on top, cementing her reputation as the most famous and exciting gymnast in the world."

What about, e.g., Larisa Latynina? Who and in accordance with which criterias decides, which athlete is "the most famous and exciting gymnast in the world"? Cmapm 03:17, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

The edit war goes on, although another part doesn't provide any explanations and reasons for changes on the talk page. The last introduced new sentences, which were reworded or deleted by me are as follows (my explanations for my actions are in brackets):
 * "basically Kim was a prime example of a power gymnast and Comaneci a technician" (deleted.why and for whom the "primary examples" were just Kim and Comaneci? what about other strong gymnasts, for example, Soviet, East German and Romanian?).

(***ok love, I said prime not primary. They are prime examples for many reasons. a) power gymnasts typically excel at vault and floor- power events. So anyone who takes an Olympic double on these events can legitimately be described as a prime example, especially since there aren't many in this category! Elena Zamolodchikova is another prime example.

b) Great technicians typically excel at compulsories. Nadia certainly did: here she scored her first perfect 10. For those who don't know, there have been many more 10s awarded for optional exercises than compulsories. The fact that Nadia scored her first here illustrates how good she was at them. Daniela Silivas might be another good one to include in this category- also very high scoring compulsories, also not as strong a tumbler or vaulter as some of her rivals, also an Olympic double on bars and beam.

I haven't seen any definitions of "the great technician" anywhere.210.229.150.130

c) They both had very long and successful careers, with golds at 2 Olympics. They are the first and second gymnasts respectively to score a perfect 10 in a major championship. Makes them more prime than someone who was equally, say, a technician but less successful, such as Li Li.

If you want to add more prime examples, go for it. Hope you now understand better. I shall add my description back in soon, unless I see better reasons than those you gave. Unless you want to argue that actually Nadia was the power gymnast and Nelli the technician!

This is not an article about "prime examples", if you can find a strict definition of the "technician" and "power gymnast" and prove that Comaneci was the former and Kim was the latter, then go for it. encyclopedian articles present an information, not its personal interpretation.210.229.150.130

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Cmapm 13:48, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * "Incidentally, Nelli was also judging in the 1996 Olympics when Kerri Strug performed her famous vault to win gold for the USA." (deleted.Why and for whom was this incidental? Why it should be pointed out, that Nellie Kim was judging there?)
 * To this sentence: "those lending their names to the 'save the 10' campaign included such notables as Lilia Podkopayeva, Vitaly Scherbo, Svetlana Boguinskaya, and Shannon Miller." the new name, Svetlana Khorkina, was added, while my request for citation was removed - I temporarily removed Khorkina's name and added request for citation once again.
 * "At this stage, it remains to be seen whether the new code will indeed be a panacea for all gymnastics ills, and whether it will be detrimental to the popularity of a sport which tends to attract most interest once every four years from people whose knowledge of the sport does not extend far beyond the perfect 10 scoring system." (deleted.who said, that this will be panacea? who believes, that it could be "detrimental" and who pointed out the "tendention"? isn't it obvious that the time will either approve or disprove the advantage of new Code?)
 * "it was felt by Kim and her ally Bruno Grandi that the best way to prevent such scandal in the" (reworded, possibly needs more rewording who said, that they feel so? I believe, not just these two persons make decisions in FIG)
 * "It is little known that Kim actually won one more gold than Comaneci in those Olympics, as her team placed first and Comaneci's second." (reworded.why is this little known? is this indeed little known?)
 * "It is of course Nadia who is most remembered from those Olympics and who won the most prestigious event, but Kim's achievements also deserve to be remembered." (deleted.is it obvious? who believes so? it is already mentioned above who won which events)

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I only see one person involved in this apparent dispute. Is there another side to this? Either way, I've given the article an edit to remove some POV language and edit for grammar and style. It still needs a few sources for the facts cited. Fagstein 19:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi everyone Basically, I felt that whoever kept putting in the pro-Nelli stuff was rather biased (and also the English wasn't perfect- is that you Nelli?!)

I'm not Nellie Kim. From your bias I suggest, that you are L. Podkopayeva.210.229.150.130

so I did what I could to clean it up. Things like giving a detailed description of Nelli beating Nadia on vault in Montreal but glossing over the all around, where Nadia won, seems like whoever did this wants to present one side only. Really the all-around is the blue ribbon event in women's gymnastics, or certainly was then, and the apparatus events less important. So it was an odd emphasis.

The article is about Nellie Kim, not Nadia Comaneci. Nellie Kim wasn't even mentioned in the article about Comaneci prior to yesterday, when Cmapm did this.210.229.150.130

I actually like both of them as gymnasts and would like to see the reality represented: that is, that Comeneci was the superior technician (hence better compulsories) and won the big title that really mattered (Olympic all-around) but that Nelli was a better 'power gymnast' (ie more difficult tumbling and vault) and was also very successful despite being somewhat overshadowed by Nadia. This being gymnastics, a sport that is pretty subjective, its harder to do all the citation stuff than it might be for other topics. I'm not wanting an edit war here so any help is gratefully accepted. The less pedantic the better please! miss zara

The media attention doesn't mean the superiority. 210.229.150.130

If you can't provide a citation for such a serious statement by 4 or 5 world-class gymnasts, then it should be removed, I shall do it.210.229.150.130

ps- whoever keeps editing out the bit about Kim having been judging when Kerri vaulted, why? Its not remotely controversial, is an interesting little titbit, and illustrates her prominence as a judge because she was there at one of the most talked about moments in recent gymnastics history. As a judge myself, I like to recognise these things!

The judging stuff seems to be irrelevant here unless it's covered event-by-event and judge-by-judge.210.229.150.130

Miss zara's points
Some points:

a) I'm not Lilia, English is actually my first language.

b) the judging stuff 'seems' to be irrelevant- im your opinion perhaps. Personally I think its an illustration of Nelli's prominence as a judge. If someone can give me a better reason than that for not having it in there, I'll stop adding it. Until then, nah.

c) Why must the citation about power/ precision gymnasts be from gymnasts themselves? Why not coaches, or judges? There is more to the sport than merely the performers.

d) I don't really understand the objection to the prime examples either, its rather weak. As such, it too will go back in til I see a better argument against it.

e) Complaints about Nadia- it is usual, in wiki articles about gymnasts, to mention their competitors and teammates (particularly prominent examples of this incude Rozalia Galiyeva and Tatiana Gutsu, whose articles heavily feature each other). I note there is no complaint made about mentioning other contemporaries of Kim's. It seems illogical to mention the battle for AA gold in which she was involved in 1976 without mentioning who the battle was with.

f) Why remove mention of the Beth Tweddle judging? Obviously Nelli has made other decisions that have been out of line with the rest of the panel- Lysenko in the Barcelona all around, for example, but the 2004 world cup one wasn't in favour of a gymnast from the USSR as the Silivas score was. As such, it illustrates that not all of the more debated scores she has posted have favoured gymnasts from her country. Hence I added it as a second example, because the article speculates on nationalistic judging motives, which don't seem evident in the Tweddle/ Memmel incident.

miss zara

 * Hello, thank you for joining the discussion, although it's a pity, that you did this (intentionally?) just after I decided to leave Wikipedia. I take care of articles about Soviet gymnasts and try to make edits related to them in as neutral POV as I can, presenting a sourced information only.

 * I generally agree with reverts of your edits by 210.229.150.130, although I see, that a reason for this wasn't emphasized enough on the Talk Page. So, I'm back here and replying to you.

 * b) I don't think, that judging stuff is "irrelevant" here, but I see, that it's underlined in an improper way in your additions. I.e. you show just controversial cases, judged by her (compaint by Silivas, a win by injured Kerry). Furthermore, media accusations should not be held as a law, BTW, in figure skating judging was made anonymous to prevent attacks on judges from the media. Should we introduce such attacks here in Wikipedia? However, I think a Silivas case should be here, as it is more or less well covered from both involved parts. But I don't find her judging in Kerry's case more "interesting", than judging of other judges in this case and Kim's judging in other cases.

 * c)This is not the case. The case is that as I remember you stated, they were reknown as a "technician" and "power gymnast" respectively. So, citations of this should be added first. Until you don't provide them, it's just your personal opinion, not more.

 * d) Once again, the fact, that they were "prime examples" should be approved by citations first, it should not be your personal opinion.

 * e) I see nothing bad in mentioning Comaneci here, but the article is not a place of extended observation of Comaneci's weak and strong sides, it's about Nellie Kim! BTW, it's not an encyclopedic style to say "Nadia" and "Nellie" we should use "Nadia Comaneci"/"Nellie Kim" or "Comaneci"/"Kim".

 * f) See my notes on judging above.
 * Cmapm 03:54, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

 * And please, provide a citation for the sentence "Those lending their names to the 'save the 10' campaign included such notables as Lilia Podkopayeva, Vitaly Scherbo, Svetlana Boguinskaya, and Shannon Miller ". You say "its harder to do all the citation stuff", but why should we mention the stuff with no references? I remove it temporarily from the article (feel free to put it back when you find a citation). Cmapm 04:13, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

 * "Basically, I felt that whoever kept putting in the pro-Nelli stuff was rather biased (and also the English wasn't perfect- is that you Nelli?!)" First of all, I'm male. You are right, my English is not perfect, but I "put" only factual sourced information. Citing sources is one of the basic principles of Wikipedia. Another one is NPOV. If, for example, you are able to find the official FIG's decision on the Silivas performance's judging case, apart from just claims of abstract "Silivas supporters", then it would be OK to include it into the article.

 * If you wonder, why do I take care of this article, the answer is simple. It isn't only because I like her photo :) This article was my first real deal in Wikipedia and the photo was the first image uploaded by me. I stumbled on it, because there was a copyright violation here and I rewrote the article and uploaded a photo. Cmapm 23:57, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

books
are they available somewhere? a link to the online store at her website is broken

anti-Comaneci POV points
There seems to be a chip on the shoulder vis a vis Comaneci's accomplishments. Mentioning who else was in the running for any particular competition is certainly appropriate, especially as Kim and Comaneci were considered to be something of rivals, but little digs at Comaneci are amateurish--this isn't a fan site. Example:

She also cited a comment by Canadian newspapers about Kim's performance, as compared to Comaneci's one: "There are moments, when a natural smile is more worth, than triumph".

--Who cares? Why is one columnist's dig at Comaneci worthy of inclusion? Furthermore it is sexist to implicitly criticize Comaneci for not smiling--smiling as she's competing? Who cares? It's not a pageant, it's an athletic competition of the most elite gymnasts in the world.

...while Comaneci managed to win only the remaining one on bars.

"Managed" to win? "Only"? Winning *any* gold medal is an accomplishment to be proud of. Clear POV.

On the vault [Comaneci] performed only a simple Tsukahara.

This, after the previous sentence touting Kim's technical prowess, comes off as a indictment of Comaneci's abilities. "Only"? "Simple"? Clear POV.

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Sherwood Smith

Sherwood Smith (born May 29, 1951) is an American fantasy and science fiction writer for young adults and adults. Smith is a Nebula Award finalist and a longtime writing group organizer and participant.

Smith's works include the YA novel Crown Duel. Smith also collaborated with Dave Trowbridge in writing the Exordium series and with Andre Norton in writing two of the books in the Solar Queen universe.

In 2001, her short story "Mom and Dad at the Home Front" was a finalist for the Nebula Award for Best Short Story. Smith's children's books have made it on many library Best Books lists. Her Wren's War was an Anne Spencer Lindbergh Honor Book, and it and The Spy Princess were Mythopoeic Fantasy Award finalists.

Biography
Sherwood Smith was born May 28, 1951, in Glendale, California. On her website, Smith describes herself as a middle-aged woman who has been married for over thirty years. Besides writing, she taught part-time at an elementary school, though she is now retired. She has "two kids, rescue dogs, and a house full of books."

Smith began making books out of taped paper towels when she was five years old. When she was 8, she started writing about another world, Sartorias-deles, though she soon switched to making comic books of her stories, which she found to be easier. Although she first tried to send out her novels when she was 13, nothing sold. However, some of the novels Smith first wrote as a teen, including Wren to the Rescue, were sold after she learned to rewrite.

In the years it took her to learn to rewrite, Smith "went to college, lived in Europe, came back to get [her] masters in History, worked in Hollywood, got married, started a family and became a teacher." She received her degrees from the University of Southern California (B.A.) in 1973 and the University of California, Santa Barbara (M.A.) in 1977. In 2010 she became a member of Book View Cafe.

Smith currently resides in California.

Partial bibliography
Smith has co-written The Change Series with Rachel Manija Brown.

Books written under other pseudonyms
Smith has written some of the books in the Planet Builders series as Robyn Tallis. She has also written four books in the Nowhere High series as Jesse Maguire and one book in the Horror High series as Nicholas Adams.

Wren books

 * Wren to the Rescue (1990), reissued by Firebird Books (2004) e-book Book View Cafe
 * Wren's Quest (1993), reissued by Firebird Books (2004)
 * Wren's War (1995), reissued by Firebird Books (2004)
 * Wren Journeymage (2010) Book View Cafe
 * A Posse of Princesses (March 2008) Norilana Books, e-book corrected, extra chapter (2011) Book View Cafe
 * Barefoot Pirate (2011) Book View Cafe
 * Lhind the Thief (2013) Book View Cafe

Sartorias-deles
Sartorias-deles is the name of the fictitious world that is the setting for many of the books by Sherwood Smith. It is one of four inhabited planets in the Erhal system. According to Smith, humans first arrived on Sartorias-deles through world gates untold millennia ago. Occasionally, still more humans arrive. However, in non-canon commentaries the author informs readers that most of the early human history on Sartorias-deles has been lost since the so-called Fall of Sartor approximately 4,000 years before the events of the books such as Senrid. Smith does indeed appear to intend these humans be portrayed as having been Terrans prior to their immigration to the Erhal system. For example, in numerous references throughout the stories, they appear to have brought with them several domesticated animal species, including cattle, horses, and dogs, as well as many foods such as coffee, rice, the tomato, and concepts such as the seven-day week.
 * A Stranger to Command (2008), prequel to Crown Duel telling the story of Shevraeth's training
 * Crown Duel (1997–1998), previously published in two parts as Crown Duel and Court Duel. Issued in a single volume by Firebird Books in 2002, an e-book in 2010, with additions of scenes from Vidanric's point of view
 * Inda (August 2006) DAW Books
 * The Fox (August 2007) (sequel to Inda)
 * King's Shield (July 2008) (sequel to The Fox)
 * Treason's Shore (July 2009) (sequel to King's Shield)
 * Banner of the Damned (April 2012) (set 400 years after Inda quartet)
 * Sasharia En Garde (July 2015), Book View Cafe.
 * Senrid (May 2015) Book View Cafe
 * The Trouble With Kings (February 2015) Book View Cafe
 * Over the Sea: CJ Notebook One (2007) Norilana, e-book (2010) Book View Cafe
 * Mearsies Heili Bounces Back: CJ Notebook Two (2008) Norilana, e-book (2010) Book View Cafe
 * Poor World: CJ Notebook Four (2011) Book View Cafe
 * Fleeing Peace (March 2011) Book View Cafe
 * The Spy Princess (August 2012) Viking
 * Sartor (Sequel to The Spy Princess (August 2012) Book View Cafe
 * A Sword Named Truth (2019) (Rise of the Alliance book 1)
 * The Blood Mage Texts (2021) (Rise of the Alliance book 2)
 * The Hunters and the Hunted (2022) (Rise of the Alliance book 3)
 * Nightside of the Sun (2022) (Rise of the Alliance book 4)

Other:
 * Coronets and Steel (September 2010) DAW Books
 * Blood Spirits (September 2011) DAW Books
 * Revenant Eve (September 2012) DAW Books
 * Danse de la Folie (September 2012) Book View Cafe
 * Rondo Allegro (September 2014) Book View Cafe

Exordium

 * The Phoenix in Flight (1993) (with Dave Trowbridge reissued in a second edition as e-book, 2011)
 * Ruler of Naught (1993) (with Dave Trowbridge reissued in a second edition as e-book, 2011)
 * A Prison Unsought (1994) (with Dave Trowbridge)
 * The Rifter's Covenant (1995) (with Dave Trowbridge)
 * The Thrones of Kronos (1996) (with Dave Trowbridge)

Andre Norton's Solar Queen universe

 * Derelict for Trade (1997) (with Andre Norton)
 * A Mind for Trade (1997) (with Andre Norton)

Andre Norton's Time Traders universe

 * Echoes in Time (1999)
 * Atlantis Endgame (2002)

Oz series

 * The Emerald Wand of Oz (2005), first in a new continuation of Oz books by L. Frank Baum
 * Trouble Under Oz (2006)
 * Sky Pyrates Over Oz (2014)

Planet Builders Series

 * Rebel from Alphorion (1989), known as Robyn Tallis
 * Visions from the Sea (1989), known as Robyn Tallis
 * Giants of Elenna (1989), known as Robyn Tallis
 * Fire in the Sky (1989), known as Robyn Tallis

TV tie-in novels

 * The Borrowers (1997), novelization of the screenplay by Scott and John Kamps, Harcourt
 * Journey to Otherwhere (2000), Voyage of the Basset series, book 3
 * Augur's Teacher (2001), based on the TV show Earth: Final Conflict

Short stories

 * "Monster Mash" (1988), in Werewolves anthology
 * "Ghost Dancers" (1989), in Things That Go Bump in the Night anthology
 * "Faith" (1993), in A Wizard's Dozen anthology
 * "Curing the Bozos" (1994), in Bruce Coville's Book of Aliens anthology
 * "Echoes of Ancient Danger" (1995), in Orphans of the Night anthology
 * "I Was A Teen-Age Superhero" (1995) in Starfarer's Dozen anthology
 * "Daria's Window" (1996), in Sisters in Fantasy II anthology
 * "What's A Little Fur Among Friends?" (1996), in Bruce Coville's Book of Spinetinglers anthology
 * "Visions" (1996), in Bruce Coville's Book of Magic anthology
 * "Illumination" (1996), in Nightmare's Dozen anthology
 * "And Horses are Born With Eagles' Wings" (1997), in Realms of Fantasy Magazine
 * "Mastery" (1997), in Wizard Fantastic anthology
 * "And Now Abideth These Three..." (1998), in Realms of Fantasy Magazine
 * "Finding the Way" (1999), in Alien Visitors anthology
 * "Mom and Dad at the Home Front" (2000), in Realms of Fantasy Magazine, Year's Best Fantasy ed. David Hartwell, and New Magics ed. Patrick Nielsen Hayden
 * "Excerpts from the Diary of a Henchminion" (2000), in Faeries magazine (French)
 * "Beauty" (2003), in Firebirds anthology
 * "Court Ship" (2008), in Firebirds Soaring anthology
 * "Commando Bats" in Athena's Daughters anthology
 * "Zapped" (2015), A Tor.com Original

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Benjamin Huger (general)

Benjamin Huger (November 22, 1805 – December 7, 1877) was a regular officer in the United States Army, who served with distinction as chief of ordnance in the Mexican–American War and in the American Civil War, as a Confederate general. He notably surrendered Roanoke Island and then the rest of the Norfolk, Virginia shipyards, attracting criticism for allowing valuable equipment to be captured. At Seven Pines, he was blamed by General James Longstreet for impeding the Confederate attack and was transferred to an administrative post after a lackluster performance in the Seven Days Battles.

Early life and U.S. Army career
Huger was born in 1805 in Charleston, South Carolina. (He pronounced his name, although today many Charlestonians say .) He was a son of Francis Kinloch Huger and his wife Harriet Lucas Pinckney, making him a grandson of Maj. Gen. Thomas Pinckney. His paternal grandfather, also named Benjamin Huger, was a patriot in the American Revolution, killed at Charleston during the British occupation.

In 1821 Huger entered the United States Military Academy and graduated eighth out of 37 cadets four years later. On July 1, 1825, he was commissioned a brevet second lieutenant, then promoted to second lieutenant in the 3rd U.S. Artillery on that same date. He served as a topographical engineer until 1828 when he took a leave of absence from the Army to visit Europe from 1828 to 1830. He then was on recruiting duty, after which he served as part of Fort Trumbull's garrison in New London, Connecticut. From 1832 to 1839 Huger commanded the Fortress Monroe arsenal located in Hampton, Virginia.

On February 7, 1831, Huger married his first cousin, Elizabeth Celestine Pinckney. They would have five children together; Benjamin, Eustis, Francis, Thomas, and Celestine Pinckney. One of his sons, Francis (Frank) Kinloch Huger, also attended West Point and graduated in 1860. Frank Huger would enter the Confederate forces during the American Civil War as well, rising to the rank of lieutenant colonel and leading a battalion of field artillery by the end of the conflict. On May 30, 1832, Huger was transferred to the Army's ordnance department with the rank of captain; he would spend the rest of his U.S. Army career with this branch. From 1839 to 1846, he served as a member of the U.S. Army Ordnance Board, and from 1840 to 1841, he was on official duty in Europe. Huger again commanded the Fort Monroe Arsenal from 1841 to 1846, until hostilities began with Mexico.

War with Mexico
Huger fought notably in 1846–48 during the Mexican–American War, serving as chief of ordnance on the staff of Maj. Gen. Winfield Scott throughout the conflict. Huger commanded the siege train during the Siege of Veracruz, March 9–29, 1847. He was appointed to the rank of brevet major for his performance at the Veracruz on March 29 and to lieutenant colonel for the Battle of Molino del Rey on September 8. Huger was brevetted a colonel five days later for "gallant and meritorious conduct" during the storming of Chapultepec.

Returning from Mexico, Huger was appointed to a board that created an instructional system for teaching artillery principles in the U.S. Army. From 1848 to 1851, he commanded the arsenal at Fort Monroe and then led the arsenal at Harpers Ferry, West Virginia until 1854. In 1852, South Carolina presented Huger with a sword, commemorating his long and distinguished service to the state. From 1854 to 1860, Huger commanded the arsenal in Pikesville, Maryland, during which he was promoted to major as of February 15, 1855. Huger was sent to the Crimean War as an official foreign observer in 1856. Beginning in 1860, Huger commanded the Charleston Arsenal, holding the post until resigning in the spring of 1861.

Civil War
Despite the declared secession of South Carolina in December 1860, Huger remained in the U.S. Army until after the Battle of Fort Sumter, resigning effective April 22, 1861. Just before the battle, Huger traveled to the fort and conferred with its commander, Maj. Robert Anderson, to determine where he stood. Although Anderson was also born in a slave state, he had already chosen to remain loyal to the United States, and Huger left when "their discussions came to naught."

Huger was commissioned an infantry lieutenant colonel in the regular Confederate States Army on March 16, then briefly commanded the forces in and around Norfolk, Virginia. On May 22, he was appointed a brigadier general in the state's militia, and the next day took command of the Department of Norfolk, with defensive responsibilities for North Carolina and southern Virginia, with his headquarters located at Norfolk. Sometime that June, he was also commissioned a brigadier in the Virginia Provisional Army; however, Huger entered the Confederate volunteer forces on June 17 as a brigadier general. Later on October 7, he was promoted to the rank of major general.

Roanoke Island and the loss of Norfolk
In early 1862, U.S. Army and Navy forces approached the North Carolina-Virginia coastline and Huger's area of responsibility. At Roanoke Island, his subordinate, Brig. Gen. Henry A. Wise, asked Huger for various supplies, ammunition, field artillery, and most importantly, additional men, greatly fearing an attack on his quite unfinished defenses. Huger's response to Wise asked him to rely on "hard work and coolness among the troops you have, instead of more men." Eventually, Confederate President Jefferson Davis ordered Huger to send help to the Roanoke Island area, but it proved too late. On February 7–8, Flag Officer Louis M. Goldsborough and his gunboats landed Brig. Gen. Ambrose E. Burnside's infantry, initiating the Battle of Roanoke Island. Huger, with about 13,000 soldiers, failed to reinforce the immediate commanders there, an ailing Wise and Col. H. M. Shaw, and Burnside quickly eliminated the Confederate resistance and forced a surrender.

When news of the fall of Roanoke Island reached Norfolk's population, they quickly panicked, spreading the alarm to Richmond. Military historian Shelby Foote believed this loss "...shook whatever confidence the citizens had managed to retain in Huger, who was charged with their defense." On February 27, President Davis declared martial law in Norfolk and suspended the right of habeas corpus, attempting to regain control, and two days later, he did the same in Richmond.

Due to the combination of the naval action at Elizabeth City on February 10, the Battle of New Bern on March 14, the Battle of South Mills on April 19, and other U.S. landings during the Peninsula Campaign, Confederate authorities determined Huger could not hold Norfolk. On April 27, he was ordered by Gen. Joseph E. Johnston to abandon the area, salvaging from Gosport Navy Yard as much usable equipment as he could, and join the main army. On May 1, Huger began to evacuate his men and ordered the destruction by fire of the naval yards at Norfolk and nearby Portsmouth. Ten days later, U.S. forces occupied the Gosport Yards. Military historian Webb Garrison, Jr. believed Huger did not leave the area properly, stating: "...the evacuation of Norfolk was handled poorly by Confederate Gen. Benjamin Huger—too much property was left intact." Also lost as a result was the famous Ironclad warship CSS Virginia, scuttled by her crew when she could not stay in the James River, get past U.S. Navy forces at its mouth, nor survive at sea even if it did. The United States would maintain control of the Norfolk facilities for the rest of the war, and the Confederate Congress soon began to investigate Huger's part in the defeat at Roanoke Island. He led his soldiers to Petersburg, where he remained until summoned by Johnston at the end of May.

Peninsula Campaign
Confederate President Jefferson Davis assigned Huger to divisional command under Gen. Johnston within the Army of Northern Virginia. His command fell back with the main body as Johnston retired towards Richmond and then participated in the Battle of Seven Pines on May 31 and June 1, 1862.

According to Johnston's battle plan, Huger's three brigades were placed under the command of Maj. Gen. James Longstreet as a support, but Huger was never notified. On June 1, as he moved his men toward the fight, their march was blocked by Longstreet's columns—who had taken an incorrect road—and halted. Huger found Longstreet, asked about the delay, and learned his role and the command relationship for the first time. Huger then asked whether he or Longstreet was the senior officer and was told that Longstreet was, which he accepted as true, although it was not. This delay and Longstreet's instructions to stand by and wait for orders prevented Huger's division from supporting the advance on time and hampered the overall Confederate attack. In his official report of the Battle of Seven Pines, Longstreet unjustly blamed Huger for the less than entirely successful action, complaining of his tardiness on May 31 but not relating the reason for the delay. In a private letter to an injured Johnston written on June 7, Longstreet stated:

"The failure of complete success on Saturday [May 31] I attribute to the slow movements of Gen. Huger's command... I can't help but think that a display of his forces on the left flank of the enemy, by Gen. Huger, would have completed the affair... Slow men are a little out of place upon the field."

Once he learned he had been criticized and blamed, Huger asked Johnston to investigate; however, this was refused. He then asked President Davis to order a court-martial, but, although approved, it never took place. Writing after the war, Edward Porter Alexander stated, referring to Huger, "Indeed, it is almost tragic the way in which he became the scapegoat of this occasion."

The Seven Days
Huger then participated in several of the Seven Days Battles with the Army of Northern Virginia, now under the command of Gen. Robert E. Lee, who replaced the wounded Johnston on June 1. Lee planned an offensive against an isolated U.S. Army corps with the bulk of his army in late June, leaving less than 30,000 men in the Richmond trenches to defend the Confederate capital. This force consisted of the divisions of Maj. Gens. John B. Magruder, Theophilus H. Holmes, and Huger. During the Battle of Oak Grove on June 25, his portion of the line was attacked by two divisions of the U.S. III Corps led by Brig. Gens. Joseph Hooker and Philip Kearny. When part of the assault faltered in rough terrain, Huger took advantage of the confused, uneven U.S. line and counterattacked with the brigade of Brig. Gen. Ambrose R. Wright. After repulsing the charge, another U.S. force attacked Huger but was stopped short of the line. The Battle of Oak Grove cost Huger 541 men killed and wounded while inflicting 626 total casualties on the U.S. Army.

Lee continued to order his army to pursue and destroy the U.S. forces. Following the action at Oak Grove, he pulled much of the defense around Richmond and added them to the chase, Huger's division included. On June 29, Magruder thought his position would be attacked by overwhelming numbers and asked for reinforcements. Lee sent two brigades from Huger's division in response with instructions they were to be returned at 2 p.m. if Magruder was not hit by then. The appointed hour came and passed, Huger's men were sent back, and later that day, Magruder "halfheartedly" fought the Battle of Savage's Station alone. Even without those two brigades, Huger was late in reaching his assigned position on June 29, countermarching needlessly and encamping his command without engaging with the enemy. The next day Huger was ordered toward Glendale but was delayed by the retreating U.S. forces who had cut trees to slow pursuit and the terrain that easily allowed for an ambush. Attempting to follow along the Charles City Road to his assignment, Huger had his men cut a new path through the woods with axes. This further slowed their advance while the other Confederate commands waited for his guns to fire, their signal to attack. Huger informed Lee of the delay by simply stating his march was "obstructed" without further description.

Around 2 p.m., Huger's lead brigade under Brig. Gen. William Mahone cut a mile-long path around the U.S. obstacles, winning the so-called "battle of the axes", and continued to approach Glendale. There he saw the 6,000-man division of Brig. Gen. Henry W. Slocum arrayed to block his way. Huger ordered one of his artillery batteries to fire on this U.S. position at 2:30 p.m. but Slocum's guns answered quickly, and Huger led his 9,000 men off the road and into the woods after taking some casualties. Despite outnumbering the U.S. division, Huger made no further attempts to reach Glendale. However, his few artillery shots were interpreted by the other Confederates as the signal to attack, igniting the Battle of Glendale, although Huger and his command would not take part in the fight and camped.

The following day, July 1, was Huger's last fight with the Army of Northern Virginia and his final field command in the American Civil War. His division was directed toward the U.S. forces on Malvern Hill without a definite target, as he was told that Lee would "place him where most needed" against the position. Because Magruder had mistakenly led his command away from the battle, Huger took up his place on the Confederate right, just north of the "Crew House", with the division of Maj. Gen. D.H. Hill on his left. To give his infantry a chance to charge and break the U.S. line, Lee ordered a concentrated artillery barrage at Malvern Hill. One of Huger's brigades, led by Brig. Gen. Lewis Armistead, was to determine when this barrage had the desired effect and begin the assault. Before the cannonade could begin, the U.S. artillery fired first and took out most Confederate guns. Shortly after 2:30 p.m. Armistead went in anyway, and though his men made some progress, he failed to penetrate the strong defensive position. Other Confederate units made less progress and took heavy casualties, and around 4 p.m., Magruder arrived and put in two brigades—about a third of his command—behind Armistead, but he too retired with high loss. Two more of Huger's brigades—led by Brig. Gen. Ambrose R. Wright and Mahone, about 2,500 men—followed Armistead and toward Malvern Hill. Taking U.S. artillery and infantry fire as they advanced, Huger's men slowed and stopped, finding protection in a nearby bluff. They had fought to about 75 yd of the U.S. line but could go no further. Huger's last brigade under Brig. Gen. Robert Ransom managed to get within 20 yd by 6 p.m. but also fell back after receiving heavy casualties in the Confederate defeat.

Following the 1862 Peninsula Campaign, Gen. Lee began reorganizing his army and eliminating ineffective division commanders, including Huger. His actions since joining the army "left much to be desired", according to military biographer Ezra J. Warner. Other historians have also criticized Huger throughout this time: Brendon A. Rehm summarized his battle performance as "not notably successful", and John C. Fredriksen stated Huger was "lethargic" during Seven Pines as well as moved "sluggishly" during the Seven Days fights. Furthermore, the Confederate Congress held Huger accountable for the defeat at Roanoke Island. His dilatory performance also appears to have been blamed on his rather advanced age; at nearly 57, he was well above the average age of most field officers. As a result, Huger was relieved of command on July 12, 1862, along with Maj. Gen. Theophilus Holmes, another aging, ineffective division commander. and that fall was ordered to serve in the Trans-Mississippi Department.

Trans-Mississippi service
After the Seven Days Battles, Huger was assigned to be assistant Inspector General of artillery and ordnance for the Army of Northern Virginia. He held this post from his relief on June 12 until August, when he was sent to the Confederate Trans-Mississippi Department. He was considered too old for field command and spent the remainder of the war in administrative duties. Huger was made the department's inspector of artillery and ordnance on August 26 and then was promoted to command of all ordnance within the department in July 1863. This position he held until the end of the American Civil War in 1865, when he surrendered along with Gen. Edmund Kirby Smith and the rest of the Confederate Trans-Mississippi forces. Huger was paroled from Shreveport, Louisiana, on June 12 of that same year, and returned to civilian life.

Huger's Trans-Mississippi service in staff positions has been rated positively by historians. Ezra J. Warner believed this area of military service was "his proper sphere" and summarized Huger's overall performance: "These duties he energetically and faithfully discharged until the close of the war, most of the time in the Trans-Mississippi service." Likewise John C. Fredriksen states, "He functioned capably in this office until 1863, when he rose to chief of ordnance in the Trans-Mississippi Department until the end of the war."

Postbellum
After the war, Huger became a farmer in North Carolina and then in Fauquier County, Virginia, finally returning in poor health to his home in Charleston, South Carolina. He was also a member of Aztec Club of 1847, a social club formed just after the Mexican–American War by army officers. Huger served as its vice president from 1852 to 1867. He died in Charleston in December 1877 and was buried at Green Mount Cemetery located in Baltimore, Maryland.

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Black history

Black history refers to:

 * History of Africa
 * History of the African diaspora, particularly:
 * African-American history, for the United States
 * History of Afro-Arab peoples
 * Afro-Brazilian history
 * History of Black British people
 * History of Black Canadians
 * Afro-Caribbean history
 * History of Afro-Latin Americans

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 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was work out some way of merging this with another article. An odd one for me to deal with, once someone merges the content then I'd suggest they setup a redirect. - Ta bu shi da yu 05:53, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Examples of shows said to have jumped the shark
Inherently POV and unencyclopedic. Some examples could be merged into Jump the shark if not already done. -- Curps 21:28, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC) OK, it seems that this was created as a breakout page from Jump the shark. The question still remains if it is an encyclopedic NPOV-able article in its own right. -- Curps 21:51, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Note this article has been moved to A list of Television Show Casting Changes. Also please note that the principal contributor to this article likes to remove the VfD notice at the top. Taco Deposit | Talk-o to Taco 19:13, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. Keep it but change the title to "List of shows said to have jumped the shark." It's an interesting read and without reading it, I really had no idea what jumping the shark meant.  — Brim 22:23, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Inherently POV and a copy of the "Jump the Shark" website's lists.  -Sean Curtin 00:30, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename as per Brim and keep. --Centauri 00:33, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and Merge into Jump the shark article. --Woohookitty 00:36, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Inherently POV and unverifiable.   This is not only another dumb list, but there are no clear criteria for inclusion on it.  Anything encyclopedic that can possibly said on this subject can be said in the article on Jump the shark.   How many articles on this minor meme are there going to be?  Wikipedia is not a chat room.  --BM 01:28, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, POV unnecessary list, article as it stands is un-encyclopaedic. Megan1967 01:58, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Abstain, but note that the title of this article and what it concerns itself with are incongruent. "Jumping the shark" (sorry for the spoiler) refers to the point when a show's ratings show it has passed its prime; the article concerns itself with casting changes. Not the same. The title, though not the body of the article, also raises POV concerns. If this discrepancy can be rectified, worthy of an article. We have dumber lists. Denni ☯ 04:58, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC)
 * Merge with jump the shark but be careful of POV. Also, I'd be cautious to make sure there's no copyvio with any Jump the Shark book/website that contains a similar list. 23skidoo 05:51, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Entirely POV. K1Bond007 06:47, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to Jump the shark. This content is still worthy of being here because it is a synopsis of widespread consensuses of viewers of the various shows at the JumpTheShark website.  For example, of course the Monty Python one was a no-brainer; since John Cleese has been highly praised for his work in the troupe, the show would have had to jump the shark if he ever left; and he did, so it did.  In addition, I would expect that most of these reasons for jumping the shark would be mentioned in the articles on the shows.  --Idont Havaname 05:00, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. A visit to jumptheshark.com shows that every show has been said, by someone or other, to have jumped the shark. Taco Deposit | Talk-o to Taco 18:35, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC) P.S. The term "jump the shark" has jumped the shark.
 * Delete. Unavoidably subjective (as the various discussions on jumptheshark.com show). And please don't merge with jump the shark - we just deleted about five pages of this stuff from there. DJ Clayworth 18:40, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment The original author now seems to have removed the page and redirected it to A list of Television Show Casting Changes, which is different in nature. -- Curps 19:40, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * This is funny; the title has changed, but clearly not the content to match. "Sanford and Son, when the show started using Grady too much." How is that a casting change? Aaron Sorkin quitting the West Wing? There was a brief discussion on the Talk:Jumping the shark page about the removal of the list that used to be part of the article. It was generally seen as a good move, as the list had ogtten ridiculously long and subjective. Mentioning a few of the best examples in the body of the article would be best (not as a list that people will feel the need to add to ad nauseum). This article, as it now stands, might be made encyclopedic, but presently is not. Most shows have had some sort of casting change at some point, and a mere list is pretty useless. Delete. -R. fiend 21:28, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Hopelessly POV and potentially infinite as every show usually ends up jumping the shark. Gamaliel 05:34, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Jump the Shark, and edit to keep only famous examples from really well-known shows (which I realize is very subjective) 212.206.63.108 10:38, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. The link to jumptheshark.com is fine.  That site maintains the concept and it's list well. IMO, we don't need to mirror/fork their content or create our own version.  See also Talk:Jumping the shark for some discussion--Sketchee 04:06, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge. A lot of these are good examples of popularly percieved examples "shark jumping," and should be condensed and moved into Jumping the shark. Redirect too maybe, although that's less important. UserGoogol 10:36, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Spinboy 23:11, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Thomas Williams (cardinal)

Thomas Stafford Williams (20 March 1930 – 22 December 2023) was a New Zealand cardinal in the Catholic Church and the fifth Archbishop of Wellington from 1979 to 2005.

Early life and education
Williams was born in Wellington, New Zealand, and educated at Holy Cross Primary School, Seatoun; SS Peter and Paul School, Lower Hutt; St. Patrick's College, Wellington; and St Kevin's College, Oamaru. He obtained a Bachelor of Commerce degree at Victoria University College, and worked for some years as an accountant. During his studies, he was deeply involved in the Catholic Youth Movement (YCW) and for a period worked full-time for the movement. In 1954, he commenced studies for the priesthood at the National Seminary, Holy Cross College, Mosgiel, Dunedin. In 1956 he was sent to the Pontifical Urban University in Rome, where he obtained a licentiate in theology and was ordained a priest on 20 December 1959. Later he received a social sciences degree from University College Dublin.

Early church career
Returning to Wellington, Williams served as assistant pastor and as Director of Studies at the Catholic Enquiry Centre. He left that post when he volunteered to serve as a missionary in Samoa (today the Archdiocese of Samoa-Apia), where he was parish priest for five years. He returned to New Zealand in 1963 and became parish priest at St. Patrick's in Palmerston North for two years. This was followed by four years as Director of the Catholic Enquiry Centre in Wellington. In 1971 he moved to Leulumoega, Samoa and returned to New Zealand in 1976 to the Holy Family Parish in Porirua East. He celebrated the 60th year of his ordination in December 2019.

Archbishop of Wellington
Williams became Archbishop of Wellington on 20 December 1979 – his 20th anniversary of priestly ordination – following the death of Reginald Cardinal Delargey. His principal consecrator was Owen Snedden, long-term Auxiliary Bishop of Wellington. Williams was created Cardinal-Priest of the titular church of Jesus the Divine Teacher at Pineta Sacchetti by Pope John Paul II on 2 February 1983. He was additionally appointed Military Ordinary in 1995. He was appointed a Member of the Order of New Zealand, New Zealand's highest civilian honour, in the 2000 Queen's Birthday Honours.

Williams campaigned strongly against the passage of the law allowing civil unions in New Zealand saying it would turn New Zealand into a "moral wasteland". He also campaigned against the expansion of casinos.

Conclave and retirement
Williams was one of the cardinal electors who participated in the 2005 papal conclave that elected Pope Benedict XVI. He resigned as Archbishop of Wellington on 21 March 2005 having reached the age of 75 and was succeeded by Coadjutor Archbishop John Dew.

In retirement, Williams lived at a retirement village in Waikanae. He died there on 22 December 2023, at the age of 93.

Selected works

 * In his own words: a tribute to Cardinal Thomas Williams. ISBN 0-86469-476-8

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Victoria Strauss

Victoria Strauss (born 1955 in Exeter, New Hampshire) is the author of nine fantasy novels for adults and young adults, including the Stone series (The Arm of the Stone and The Garden of the Stone) and the Way of Arata series (The Burning Land and The Awakened City). She has written hundreds of book reviews for magazines and ezines, including SF Site and Fantasy magazine, and her articles on writing have appeared in Writer's Digest and elsewhere. In 2006, she served as a judge for the World Fantasy Awards.

An active member of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America, she is a co-founder, with AC Crispin, of the Committee on Writing Scams, and serves as its vice-chair. She maintains the Writer Beware website and blog, which provide information and warnings on writing related schemes, scams, and pitfalls. For this work, she received the SFWA Service Award in 2009. She was also honored in 2012 with an Independent Book Blogger Award.

Strauss studied Comparative Religion at Vassar College.

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Talk:Ayahuasca

Removal question
, I noticed you removed some text and a source which I readded for the time being here. You stated it was "lab research in suspicious journal." When I look at the journal I dont see anything wrong with it, but I am not an expert in this. I also see the same research at NIH, but maybe NIH is a mirror of this same other journal? I do see the research has other research that cites this, why would we think this is suspicious? Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 07:22, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

 * Hello - there are several issues with that section on 'Neurogenesis'. First and foremost, all of the sources are lab studies far too preliminary to be used in an encyclopedia, WP:MEDINVITRO. Second, the author(s) of that section make a leap of interpretation from the test tube to 'neurogenesis' as an effect of using ayahuasca; this is WP:SYNTH at its worst. Third, the original source for the Dakic article here was an unreviewed preprint, as shown clearly in red at the top of the page. The article was subsequently reviewed and published, but this journal is not a WP:MEDRS source, which would review such preliminary literature into an acceptable MEDRS source. The early stage of this lab research, however, indicates it will be a decade plus of further evidence (i.e., clinical trial process) before such a review could be published. No company would finance such an investment for ayahuasca, so it will likely never occur.
 * The source you refer to as 'NIH' is PubMed, which is a database published by NIH, but all it does is list publications. It is not an endorsement by NIH for publications to be listed by PubMed.
 * I am reverting that section again for the above reasons and for other edits that need deletion as they are too speculative and not supported by MEDRS reviews. Zefr (talk) 15:25, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Things do get researched without commercial value, I think this one was done by a Brazilian university. Thank you for clarification. I would think the editor who added the content can re-add some of it in a more neutral way, research in itself is encyclopedic but maybe implying it to be medical (and thus requiring MEDRS) would be a WP:WIKIVOICE issue (stating medical benefits to humans in wikivoice). Jtbobwaysf (talk) 19:01, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Sourcing and term issues
The end of the "Traditional Use" section includes three lists of "admixtures". In the third list, about half are referenced (to one source), the other half are not. Is this original research?

In addition, the description of the very last one, "bobinsana", has a few apparent issues, most notably the reference to "chakra opening". This cannot possibly be related to traditional use, since chakras are an East Asian concept, not a South American one. --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 17:11, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Baháʼí Faith/Archive Practice

Baha'i Clothing?
Unless I am mistaken some or all Baha'i wear special clothing, which for men consists of a tailored all-white long sleeved shirt and pants with matching hat. Could someone provide some background on the Baha'i doctrine on this clothing?
 * There is no such thing as Baha'i clothing. I say this with reasonable certainty, sitting here in a plaid shirt and blue cotton slacks with no hat. I have been a Baha'i for 30 years, my daughter served in Haifa at the Baha'i World Center, and I noticed no distinctive dress there.  As a matter of fact, at the recent dedication of the Baha'i terraces in Haifa the camera dwelled on the utter diversity of clothing in the crowd.  Baha'i teaches that we should celebrate our cultural diversity.  National dress, and cultural dress is constantly celebrated in Baha'i meetings and events.  Being from Kansas, saddly, my national dress typically consists of button down shirts and plaid shirts.  :-)  But no, there is no such thing as Baha'i Clothing. Rboatright 28 Aug 2003

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Tellurite (mineral)

Tellurite is a rare oxide mineral composed of tellurium dioxide (TeO2).

It occurs as prismatic to acicular transparent yellow to white orthorhombic crystals. It occurs in the oxidation zone of mineral deposits in association with native tellurium, emmonsite and other tellurium minerals. Its name comes from Tellus, which is the Latin name for the planet Earth.

It was first described in 1842 because of an occurrence in Faţa Băii, Zlatna, Alba County, Romania.

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Citation
Added citation link to liner note essay, and for full disclosure I work for the non-profit educational resource linked to.Ribbonabaca (talk) 20:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

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Buryat language

Buryat or Buriat, known in foreign sources as the Bargu-Buryat dialect of Mongolian, and in pre-1956 Soviet sources as Buryat-Mongolian, is a variety of the Mongolic languages spoken by the Buryats and Bargas that is classified either as a language or major dialect group of Mongolian.

Geographic distribution
The majority of Buryat speakers live in Russia along the northern border of Mongolia. In Russia, it is an official language in the Republic of Buryatia and was an official language in the former Ust-Orda Buryatia and Aga Buryatia autonomous okrugs. In the Russian census of 2002, 353,113 people out of an ethnic population of 445,175 reported speaking Buryat (72.3%). Some other 15,694 can also speak Buryat, mostly ethnic Russians. Buryats in Russia have a separate literary standard, written in a Cyrillic alphabet. It is based on the Russian alphabet with three additional letters: Ү/ү, Ө/ө and Һ|Һ/һ.

There are at least 100,000 ethnic Buryats in Mongolia and Inner Mongolia, China, as well.

Dialects
The delimitation of Buryat mostly concerns its relationship to its immediate neighbors, Mongolian proper and Khamnigan. While Khamnigan is sometimes regarded as a dialect of Buryat, this is not supported by isoglosses. The same holds for Tsongol and Sartul dialects, which rather group with Khalkha Mongolian to which they historically belong. Buryat dialects are:

 * Khori group east of Lake Baikal comprising Khori, Aga, Tugnui, and North Selenga dialects. Khori is also spoken by most Buryats in Mongolia and a few speakers in Hulunbuir.
 * Lower Uda (Nizhneudinsk) dialect, the dialect situated furthest to the west and which shows the strongest influence from Turkic
 * Alar–Tunka group comprising Alar, Tunka–Oka, Zakamna, and Unga in the southwest of Lake Baikal. Tunka extends into Mongolia.
 * Ekhirit–Bulagat group in the Ust’-Orda National District comprising Ekhirit–Bulagat, Bokhan, Ol’khon, Barguzin, and Baikal–Kudara
 * Bargut group in Hulunbuir (which is historically known as Barga), comprising Old Bargut and New Bargut

Based on loan vocabulary, a division might be drawn between Russia Buryat, Mongolia Buryat and Inner Mongolian Buryat. However, as the influence of Russian is much stronger in the dialects traditionally spoken west of Lake Baikal, a division might rather be drawn between the Khori and Bargut group on the one hand and the other three groups on the other hand.

Phonology
Buryat has the vowel phonemes (plus a few diphthongs), and the consonant phonemes  (each with a corresponding palatalized phoneme) and. These vowels are restricted in their occurrence according to vowel harmony. The basic syllable structure is (C)V(C) in careful articulation, but word-final CC clusters may occur in more rapid speech if short vowels of non-initial syllables get dropped.

Vowels
Other lengthened vowel sounds that are written as diphthongs, namely ай (aj), ой (oj), and үй (yj), are heard as. Also, эй (ej) is also rendered homophonous with ээ (ee). In unstressed syllables, and  become, while unstressed  becomes. These tend to disappear in fast speech.

Consonants
Voiced plosives are half-voiced syllable finally on the first syllable (xob calumny, xobto  chest), but completely devoiced on the second syllable onwards (tyleb  shape, harapša  shed). Velar stops are "postvelarized" in words containing back vowel harmony: gar hand, xog  trash, but not as in ger  house, teeg  cross-beam. Also, becomes  between back vowels (jaagaab  what has happened?). The phoneme becomes  before velar consonants, while word finally it may cause nasalization of the preceding vowel (anxan  beginning) In the Aga dialect,  and  are pronounced as non-sibilants  and, respectively. in loans was often substituted by simple.

Stress
Lexical stress (word accent) falls on the last heavy nonfinal syllable when one exists. Otherwise, it falls on the word-final heavy syllable when one exists. If there are no heavy syllables, then the initial syllable is stressed. Heavy syllables without primary stress receive secondary stress:

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!Stress pattern !! IPA !! Gloss
 * ˌHˈHL || || "to act encouragingly"
 * LˌHˈHL || || "to cause to be covered with leaves"
 * ˌHLˌHˈHL || || "steamed dumplings (accusative)"
 * ˌHˈHLLL || || "to be adapted to"
 * ˈHˌH || || "bet"
 * LˈHˌH || || "by sea"
 * LˈHLˌH || || "to the husband's parents"
 * LˌHˈHˌH || || "by one's own sea"
 * ˌHLˈHˌH || || "by one's own girl"
 * LˈH || || "through the mountain"
 * ˈLL || || "mountain"
 * }
 * LˈHLˌH || || "to the husband's parents"
 * LˌHˈHˌH || || "by one's own sea"
 * ˌHLˈHˌH || || "by one's own girl"
 * LˈH || || "through the mountain"
 * ˈLL || || "mountain"
 * }
 * LˈH || || "through the mountain"
 * ˈLL || || "mountain"
 * }
 * ˈLL || || "mountain"
 * }

Secondary stress may also occur on word-initial light syllables without primary stress, but further research is required. The stress pattern is the same as in Khalkha Mongolian.

Writing systems
From the end of the 17th century, Classical Mongolian was used in clerical and religious practice. The language of the end of the 17th—19th centuries is conventionally referred to as the Old Buryat literary and written language.

Before the October Revolution, clerical records of the Western Buryats were made in the Russian language, and not by the Buryats themselves, but by representatives of the tsarist administration, the so-called clerks. The old Mongolian script was used only by ancestral nobility, lamas and traders Relations with Tuva, Outer and Inner Mongolia.

In 1905, on the basis of the Old Mongolian script, Agvan Dorzhiev developed a script known as Vagindra, which by 1910 had at least a dozen books printed. However, use of vagindra was not widespread.

In 1926, an organized scientific development of the Buryat Latinized writing began in the USSR. In 1929, the draft Buryat alphabet was created. It contained the following letters: A a, B b, C c, Ç ç, D d, E e, Ә ә, Ɔ ɔ, G g, I i, J j, K k, L l, M m, N n, O o, P p, R r, S s, Ş ş, T t, U u, Y y, Z z, Ƶ ƶ, H h, F f, V v. However, this project was not approved. In February 1930, a new version of the Latinized alphabet was approved. It contained letters of the standard Latin alphabet (except for h, q, x), digraphs ch, sh, zh, and also the letter ө. But in January 1931, its modified version was officially adopted, unified with other alphabets of peoples within the USSR.

 * Buryat Latin alphabet (1931–39)

In 1939, the Latinized alphabet was replaced by Cyrillic with the addition of three special letters (Ү ү, Ө ө, Һ һ).

Buryats changed the literary base of their written language three times in order to approach the living spoken language. Finally, in 1936, the Khorinsky oriental dialect, close and accessible to most native speakers, was chosen as the basis of the literary language at the linguistic conference in Ulan-Ude.
 * Modern Buryat Cyrillic alphabet since 1939

Grammar
Buryat is an SOV language that makes exclusive use of postpositions. Buryat is equipped with eight grammatical cases: nominative, accusative, genitive, instrumental, ablative, comitative, dative-locative and a particular oblique form of the stem.

Buryat language reforms in the Soviet Union
In September 1931, a joint plenum of the Central Committee and the Central Control Commission of the CPSU (B) was held, which, in line with the decisions of the Central Committee, formulated a course for the construction of a socialist in content and national in form culture of the Buryat people. In the activities of the Institute of Culture, they saw a distortion of the party line in the development of the main issues of national and cultural construction and gave basic guidelines for the Institute's further work. In particular, it was noted that the Old Mongolian writing system penetrated Buryatia from Mongolia along with Lamaism and, before the revolution, "served in the hands of the Lama, Noyonat, and kulaks as an instrument of oppression of illiterate workers." The theory of creating a pan-Mongolian language was recognized as pan-Mongolian and counterrevolutionary. The Institute of Culture was tasked with compiling a new literary language based on the East Buryat (primarily Selenga) dialect. In the early 1930s, the internationalization of the Buryat language and the active introduction of Russian-language revolutionary Marxist terms into it began.

During the next reform in 1936, there was a reorientation to the Khorin dialect. The reform coincided with the Japanese invasion of Manchuria, so it was intended to isolate the Buryats from the rest of the Mongol world. In 1939, the Buryat language was translated into the Cyrillic alphabet, a process that coincided with active repression of the Buryat intelligentsia, including scholars and statesmen who had been involved in the language reform. Among them were publicist and literary critic Dampilon, one of the leaders of the Buryat-Mongolian Writers' Union Solbone Tuya, editor of the Buryaad-Mongolian Unen newspaper B. Vancikov and others. They were accused of "polluting the Buryat language with Pan-Mongolian and Lama-religious terms," as well as of counter-revolutionary, Pan-Mongolian distortions of the works of the classics of Marxism-Leninism, and of Mongolizing their native language, namely, "translating into Mongolian with the selection of reactionary Buddhist feudal-theocratic, Khan Wan words that are incomprehensible and inaccessible to the population of Soviet Buryatia."

Since 1938, Russian was introduced as a compulsory language from the 1st grade, thus consolidating Buryat-Russian bilingualism. Changes in the spelling, alphabet and literary norms on which the language is based reduced the prestige of the Buryat language, consolidating Russian domination in the region. In the 1940s, the Soviet Union completely stopped printing in the Old Mongolian language. The so-called "Pan-Mongolian" words, which were actually Mongolian and Tibetan, were massively replaced by "international" words, i.e. Russian.

Artificial Russification
The Buryats are the indigenous people of the Republic of Buryatia, yet today the majority of the republic's residents are of Russian nationality. According to the 1989 All-Union Population Census, the region was home to about 1 million 38 thousand people, including 726.2 thousand Russians (70%) and 249.5 thousand Buryats (24%). Twenty years later, according to the 2010 All-Russian Census, 461.4 thousand Buryats lived in Russia. The permanent population of Buryatia amounted to about 972 thousand people, including 630.78 thousand (66.1%) Russians and 286.84 thousand (30%) Buryats.

Since the days of the Russian Empire, the Russian authorities have made efforts to destroy the national and cultural identity of the Buryats. For example, in today's Russia, the territories inhabited by ethnic Buryats are divided between the Republic of Buryatia and the Ust-Ordyn Buryat District in the Irkutsk Oblast, as well as the Aginsky Buryat District in the Trans-Baikal Territory. In addition to these administrative-territorial units, Buryats live in some other neighboring districts of the Irkutsk Oblast and Trans-Baikal Territory.

One of the reasons for the artificial division of Buryats into different administrative units was the fight against so-called "pan-Mongolism" and "Buryat nationalism" that began in the 1920s. In an effort to break the cultural, linguistic, and historical ties of the Buryat-Mongols with Mongolia, the Soviet and later Russian authorities pursued a decisive policy of Russification, the settlement of the Republic of Buryatia by Russians, the replacement of the Mongolian script with the Cyrillic alphabet, and so on. At the moment, UNESCO has officially included the Buryat language in the Red Book of Endangered Languages. According to the 2010 All-Russian Census, 130,500 people in the Republic of Buryatia spoke Buryat, or only 13.4% of the total population. Currently, the process of reducing the spheres of use of the Buryat language continues. Russian is compulsory in Buryat schools, while Buryat is optional. There is a lack of Buryat-language publications, TV channels, periodicals, etc.

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eo: article images use
Is the Esperanto article's practice of direct incorporation of the remote images O.K. w.r.t. the copyrights and the Wikipedia policies? BACbKA 21:31, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Picture request
I'd like to put this article on the main page, but I'd prefer someone add a copyleft (Creative common or GFDL licensed) picture first. →Raul654 22:47, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)

 * There is a picture on the German Wikipedia article that is under the GFDL, how about using that. NavidAzizi 16:50, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC)

 * Another picture is the one on the page for the Bab which is released into public domain.  It's of the Shrine of the Bab in the Baha'i world centre in Haifa, Israel NavidAzizi 19:01, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Both look good to me. When I get home from vacation next week, I'll add one or both to the article (unless someone beats me to it) and then schedule it for the main page. →Raul654 01:53, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)

 * Finnaly i found where i got the photo and its copyright status (when i uploaded it i was still a wikipedia newbie), its from the Bahai World News Website, and the copyright status of the photos can be found here:
 * citing:
 * "All stories and photographs produced by the Bahá'í World News Service may be freely reprinted, re-emailed, re-posted to the World Wide Web and otherwise reproduced by any individual or organization, subject to the following restrictions:

 * 1. They must at all times be attributed to the Bahá'í World News Service.
 * 2. Photographs and stories cannot be used in any way (including, without limitation, suggesting an association with or endorsement of any product, service, opinion or cause) which conflicts with the intent and premise of the original source.
 * 3. Photographs may be edited for size only. Captions must remain with the photographs at all times.
 * 4. The Bahá'í World News Service will not be responsible to any person or organization for any liability for any direct, incidental, consequential, indirect, or punitive damages that may result from any access to or use of the stories and/or photographs on our site.
 * 5. Although this blanket permission to reproduce BWNS stories is given freely such that no special permission is required, the Bahá'í World News Service retains full copyright protection for its stories and photographs under all applicable national and international laws. "
 * so, the current photo is finne i guess :)
 * p.s im currently very busy (exams, exams), will be back on tuesday! - --Cyprus2k1 08:31, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * p.s im currently very busy (exams, exams), will be back on tuesday! - --Cyprus2k1 08:31, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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