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Talk:Demographics of Bulgaria

If it's so great why are they dying?
If Bulgaria is such a good country and with such great achievements as the article claims why are they dying? Population declined from almost 10 mnl to merely 7 mln - is it result of all progress archived in recent years? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.165.173.131 (talk) 20:51, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

 * We like dying. As simple as that. Satisfied? 46.10.148.99 (talk) 02:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

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Well - the Roma communities in every single eastern European country are larger than what the census results say. However, our dear Boraczek makes a change only in the Bulgarian page. Anything you can quote in your defence that this is indeed not a personal crusade but an action in good faith? VMORO 20:56, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)~

 * If you correctly say that Roma community is bigger than the census says, then why did you delete the estimate? I am not obliged to edit all Wikipedia demographics articles at once, nor to defend from an unclear and weird accusation about the "personal crusade". BTW did you read Assume good faith? But even if I embarked on some personal crusade (whatever that means), edits in articles should be explained with reference to their contents rather than by personal attacks and "eliminating personal crusades". Given this, unfortunately, I cannot take your comment here as a genuine explanation for your recent edit. Please specify your reasons. Boraczek 21:40, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Because those Roma who declared themselves Bulgarians, Turks or Vlachs did so because they speak Bulgarian, Turkish and Vlach as mother tongue. The fact that they have a Roma origin and a darker skin does not make them less Bulgarian, Turkish or Vlach.

 * There is a point in this. A trait of the Roma population is that they often do not have any national identity or that their ethnic Roma identity coexists with a wider, national identity. This is imndeed worth a mention in the article. Boraczek 09:37, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Don't talk to me about good faith, we both know what you are doing here. No such changes have been made in either of the Demographics pages of any eastern European country with a high percentage of Roma population, so this is easily qualified as a personal crusade against Greece and Bulgaria by User:Boraczek. VMORO 13:29, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)~

 * HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :-)
 * Hello, this is Boraczek on his personal crusade against Greece and Bulgaria ;-)
 * Performing my crusade, I would like to say that I am not a nationalist and I see ethnic diversity as a valuable heritage rather than as a shameful impurity, so I do not see adding information about the Roma population as anti-Bulgarian or anti-Greek. Boraczek 09:37, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

official bulgarian population census link
is there a link to an official site with the ethnic make-up of the population of Bulgaria Criztu 21:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

American is not "non-existant"
"American" as an ethnic identification is a valid choice, according to the US Census Bureau, denoting people in the US -- usually those whose families have been in the country for centuries -- who do not have enough information about their background (or do not identify closely enough with it) to identify themselves more specifically. I'm sure other countries accept the designation American as a valid choice. Misterdoe 16:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Where are the vlachs, aromanians and romanians from North???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mushatu (talk • contribs) 18:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC) In North - where they belong, Romania.

Map
Is there anyone to correct the map? The Asenovgrad municipality is incorrectly listed as predominantly Turkish - which it is not VMORO 23:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Population Decline
I just don't understand why people doesn't want to have children in such a beautiful country, with low population density and mild climate. May be (just guess) the birth rate is not that low among the Bulgarians living outside the country? or perhaps most people left the country to seek jobs in the western Europe are primarily youth people? thus leaving old people behind at home and brought down the birth rate figure? as they gave birth to their children overseas and was not included in the Bulgarian statistics? someone who knows the reason, please be kind to say something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.49.9.186 (talk) 09:24, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Yes, disregard the "Bulgarian fascism vs. Turks" et. baloney. There are three main reason for this:
 * 1) The general melancholy and depression amongst Bulgarians, generally caused by the losses in the National Unification Wars.
 * 2) The incredibly strong Russification policy, especially in the decades immediately after 1944 but not only. The Bulgarian alphabet was "revised" almost immediately, throwing out all letters not present in Russian. Thus, we now have letters with no phonetic value and phonemas without corresponding letters; letters of a Russian origin that have nothing to do with Bulgarian historian orthograpic tradition (and, mind you, we invented Cyrillics), completely non-functioning rules (e.g., the yat "ѣ" vowel), massive loans of Russian lexis, etc. - i.e., a very clear attempt to push Bulgarian as close to Russian as possible. Then Tarasyanka and Surdzhuk are just waiting around the corner.
 * 3) The continued very strong influence of Russian viewpoints, thanks to the retained network of Russian operatives and the receptiveness of Bulgarians (cf. 1. and 2.). 25-30% think Russia and Russians can never do anything bad and that they are right, anytime, anywhere, including when they threaten us or lie about us. In my experience (and as ugly as it may sound), we just have to wait until they die (most of them are edlerly). The problem is entirely in their heads and is unsolvable by common means. We desperately need an anti-communism and anti-Russophilia policies (such as the anti-Nazification policy in FRD).
 * So these are the problems. There is pretty much nothing objective (I have been in Latin America and Africa and I know what objective reasons are), most of the problem are in the people's heads. They affect how they act (victim mentality is a severe menace) and then the imaginary problems become very real. This is enough to put the country into a state of paralysis, whereby it cannot do the necessary things to modernise and objectively push thing past the point where negativism, victim mentality, and resistance to change simply disappear. 46.10.148.99 (talk) 14:38, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Population decline is happening because of the racism against Turks and muslims. After 1989, 700+ thousand of Turks immigrated to Turkey from Bulgaria. The immigration still continues. Same happened in 1910s, 1920s, 1930s and 1940s. In Izmir(pop: 4 million) and Istanbul(pop: 14 million), nearly every citizen has a background of Bulgaria, ex-Yugoslavia, Greece and Russia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.240.140.99 (talk) 14:45, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Those figures are not true and do not explain the problem with demographics. Around 300 to 400 000 were expulsed, and that cannot explain the decline in the population in total. This is a shamefull period in Bulgarian history, but it is far from the true cause. The difference between 1989 and 2010 is in several millions of people. BloodIce (talk) 15:23, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Thoughts over the faith of Roma people
From rumors I heard, its hard to call Roma with specific religion as most Roma behave in their "own" way and tends not to be restricted by any law of any religion. Thus, Roma living in France who believe in catholic behave not much different than Roma living in Bulgarian whose faith is Islam as said by the paragraph. is this true or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.73.78.62 (talk) 09:28, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Should it be noted that census figures are based on voluntary basis?
Regarding the latest census figures should it be noted that it was not mandatory to state ethnic group during the census? Basically latest figures on ethnic and religious distribution are based on those individuals who voluntarely chose to select an option, need to keep in mind that many probably chose to ingore and are likely registered as ethnic Bulgarian. Also latest changes in the census template removed several ethnic groups from the options list. Official figures on ethnic religious and laguage distribution should be taken in my opinion with a grain of salt. Hittit (talk) 10:48, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

 * Hittit, the census regulations of the EU stipulate that these questions are voluntary. However, what the NSI did was extremely reprehensible, as they kept repeating, on and on, that answering the ethnicity, mother tongue and and religion questions was completely voluntary, so many people skipped them - in addition to the number of people who were borrowed from administrative source. And in the end, both categories were lumped together, which led to quite inaccurate data.

 * The 2021 census was conducted much more poorly than the 2011 one (I counted myself electronically, but I was never visited, and I had to call on the last date to give them the census code. Plus, a huge number of other people, especially from Sofia, neither did the census electronically, nor were visited by census workers, and have apparently been counted from administrative sources). Yet, it did not advertise "oh, it's optional, oh, it's voluntary", so the current census provides a more realistic picture of the population. If the census workers were actually doing their job, the number of people counted from administrative sources should not have been more than 3-4%. As an attenuating circumstance, the web census application suffered near constant DDoS attacks (from Russia, of course), preventing people from using it, which led to census workers in the big cities, esp. Sofia severely understaffed. 46.10.148.99 (talk) 17:44, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Bulgarian Turks, fascism and Exile
Bulgarian state, with the fascist policies applied against the Turks for centuries, Exiles experienced, religious prohibitions, and the world everything yapmışlardır.avrup national bans remain silent was unresponsive.

Migration of Turks from Bulgaria (1878-1994) :

1878-1912 Balkan Wars : 350.000

1923-1933 Razgrad evetns : 101.507

1934 Balkan pact : 91.181

1940 Craiva agreement : 21.353

1950 Korean war : 154.198

1952-1968 : 24

1969-1978 : 114.316

1979-1988 : 10

1989 : 1989 Bulgarian Turks in exile :321.000 ,150,000'n the 1990s he returned to Bulgaria.

1991-1992 : 50.000

1993-1994 : 70.000

Total Turks Exile Bulgaria : 1.016.391

 * This previous comment is done by an anonymous user, client of Turk Telecom. For a future reference, it should be noted that it is not sourced by any reference (even in Turkish). It is highly fictional, with the exception of 1985-1990. Personally, I can only laugh at the period 1952-1968: Is it 24 people who were targeted? Who are these? Korean war and Bulgarian turks... nonsense?BloodIce (talk) 21:52, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

 * The only period when there was actual pressure on the Bulgarian Turks was in the 1980s. First of all, the data is incorrect. Secondly, no one has made anyone emigrate (except in 1989). Turks sold their properties and voluntarily moved to the Anadol. In the decades immediately following 1878, the main reason was quite simple: they did not want to live in a Christian-majority state. After all, in the Ottoman Empire, they were a rank above Christians, who were "gâvur" and had very restricted rights.
 * The lack of pressure from either the state or ordinary Bulgarians is clear for one simple reason: They are still here. Where are the Turks in Serbia or Greece? 46.10.148.99 (talk) 02:54, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

 * The anonymous user should explain why — despite our faschist/genocidal policies, our Turks and Muslims are still here, living with us — and then explain where are the Christian minorities of law-abiding, meek, minority-protecting Turkey? 'How did 2.929 million Christians in 1914 (18.1% of the population) become 350,000 in 1927 (2.5%)? Care to comment? Where did they go? Abducted bu aliens maybe?

 * Would you also grace us with an explanation of the Varlık Vergisi tax, which, Turkey, the Land of Equal Opportunity, imposed on all citizens of the Republic at absolutely equal rates: 4.9% for Muslims, 156% for Greeks, 179% for Jews and 232% for Armenians😊? As I said, equal rates.💔💔💔

 * Would explain to us how exactly the Turkish Surname Law of 1934, which bans, I quote, "Names relating to tribes, foreign races or ethnicities", i.e.. in effect, Armenian surname endings such as -yan and -ian, Bulgarian ones such as -ov and -ev, Greek ones like -is, -dis, -pulos, -aki, etc. etc, IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE DID IN THE REVIVAL PROCESS? Which neither I, nor 95% of Bulgarians supported by the way.

 * Also in this connection, article 301 of the Turkish Penal code enacted in 1972 that "prohibits giving newborns names that were contrary to the national culture"? Oh, it just smeeeeeeells of REVIVAL🤤. With the right amount of fascism of course.

 * If any compatriate wants to tackle the constant lies about "the genocide against the Turks" in articles such as Bulgarian Turks, etc., please message me on my page. I can pull out all relevant sources and help you out. I just don't have time yet to go into the fray (at the moment - hopefully). VMORO 06:08, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

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Pomaks
I'm wondering that Pomaks are not mentioned.--Sinuhe20 (talk) 09:10, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

 * Because they are Bulgarians - Muslims Bulgarians 46.10.148.99 (talk) 02:46, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

 * If you are still wondering, I would suggest that you check out the data for the Smolyan Province here (or, alternatively, visit nsi.bg, Infostat, http://pop-stat.mashke.org/bulgaria-ethnic2021.htm etc). Let me remind you that the Province is 3/4 "Muslim Bulgarian". No, not "Pomak", because there are attempts to weaponise it as a separate ethnicity, but no longer even "Muslim Bulgarian", as half the people of Muslim extraction no longer identify as Muslim.
 * But I digress. Well, this province is more than 90% ethnic Bulgarian at the latest census — and one of only five Bulgarian provinces that have such an outright Bulgarian majority. How Pomak-y does it sound to you from one to 10😊?
 * And since you might say that's because the Pomaks are oppressed/suppressed or that are we are chasing them with pitchforks every Tuesday afternoon, I can direct you to the pages of a popular TV presenter (Mira Dobreva), the former Minister of the Environment Borislav Sandov, the former Member of the European Parliament Vladimir Urutchev, the icon of Bulgarian folk music and, arguably, the most popular living Bulgarian folk singer, Valya Balkanska, Olympic champion in rowing Siyka Kelbecheva, football player Kostadin Gadzhalov, etc. etc. So, don't worry, they're here, they're obviously integrated in society, but there is one thing they are not — Pomaks. 05:19, 3 June 2023 (UTC) VMORO 05:20, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Migration rate
I didn't find the data on migration rate in the sources for vital statistics table. I only found data for 2010-2020 on the National institute of statistics website https://www.nsi.bg/en/content/3072/international-migration-age-and-sex. This data is different from the data in the tables. The migration rates and population change rates seem to have been calculated on the basis on the rest of the table, which would make these numbers incorrect. If there's no source for migration rates and population change rates, I will remove the data and maybe include 2010-2020 data. Givibidou (talk) 19:37, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Why did 100.000 turks move from 2001 to 2011?
Is there any source on this? 83.209.219.81 (talk) 01:51, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

 * How about emigration, dude? 46.10.148.99 (talk) 02:34, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

 * Abducted by aliens. Pity really. VMORO 04:14, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Request for Semi-Protected Edit = Incorrect listing of "Undeclared" in the 2021 census
The "Undeclared" category for the 2021 census is entirely wrong as it combines three answers:

1) I cannot identify myself: 15,746 people 2) I do not wish to answer: 63,767 people and 3) Not shown - which comprises people for whom DATA HAS BEEN BORROWED FROM ADMINISTRATIVE SOURCES: 467,678. See https://www.nsi.bg/sites/default/files/files/pressreleases/Census2021-ethnos.pdf and especially https://www.nsi.bg/sites/default/files/files/pressreleases/Census2021_ethnos-1.pdf

Unfortunately, the press releases do not yet have English translations, but they will come up sooner or later. However, the slide (https://www.nsi.bg/sites/default/files/files/pressreleases/Census2021_ethnos-1.pdf) is abundantly clear. I will translate word for word:

Population by ethnic group* (cf. the asterisk below) Bulgarian: 5,518,494 or 84.6% Turkish: 508,378 or 8.4% Roma: 266,720 or 4.4% Other: 79,006 or 1.3% I cannot identify myself: 15,746 or 0.3% I do not wish to answer: 63,767 or 1.0%

(Asterisk) In presenting the structure of the population by ethnic group and calculating the relative shares of the respective categories, we have not included persons who have been added from administrative sources, for whom there is no information in the registries used during the census.

It doesn't really matter if "persons for whom data has been borrowed from administrative sources" are skipped in the overall calculations or not (I think both should be stated). HOWEVER, the three different groups of people should be indicated SEPARATELY. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.10.148.99 (talk) 02:33, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

 * Hey man, I do understand your concern. There was even a bit of a struggle to make things the way they are now, as everything at some point was clumped into one category. I seem to be the one who is writing most regulary here, so this is why I'm answering.
 * I think this was a decision for the sake of simplicity. I don't really see any difference between the two categories. Yes, the first one is I can't, the other one is I don't want to. Yeah, and so what? What does any of it change? For me, honestly, this is completely unnecessary and quite confusing. Plus, there is no other census I've seen where there are so many categories.
 * Once already, I'v had to split a table into two to be able to properly add all caterogies + adm sources bla bla, which took me several hours, and I would do the same thing only of it is a really pressing, urgent, super unfair etc. matter. In my personal opinion, things should stay the same as the two categories are basically two different versions of one and the same entry. Let's see if someone else will deign give us an answer. VMORO 04:26, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes I would agree with you in general. I don't believe there is much difference between the two categories of 'I cannot' and 'I don't want to', in practicality they mean the same thing effectively of the respondent has not given an answer. Maybe it differs significantly in answer in more mixed districts? No clue Tweedle (talk) 11:05, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I think they're completely clueless. The last census was botched cause Mariyana was on TV every night assuring people they do not have to answer the questions about ethnic group, religion and mother tongue (as if this is something extremely scary that could have long-lasting consequences for you😱) and psyched 10% of the people not to answer.
 * This time, there were the DDOS attacks, where there were no census takers for most of Sofia (you either file an electronic return or you don't exist to us), where a number of Romani ghettoes appear to have been counted administratively (cause why bother if you can do it at the office whie making some of the stuff up on the spot). Plus, some of the Roma figures are so-so so so weird that if I didn't know how dysfunctional and lazy they are, I would have suspected foul play, but they don't have the organisation or motivation to even try.
 * I actually managed to change the designation of one of the categories with a single call (WTF??🤣🤣🤣🤣), so until everyone at the top layers is fired, there is not much point to obsess over bullshit. They are capable of putting a I'm wondering category. VMORO 13:18, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

TFR 2022
It says the TFR in 2022 was 1.78, but births are actually down from 2021 when TFR was just 1.58. Could there be a typo? Chaptagai (talk) 08:36, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Since that number makes no sense, I will delete it. 13:10, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

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I don't think it's true that RADACADS was formed in 1970 as an offshoot of SDS. I thought RADACADS was started in the 1980s and had no direct connection to the student movement of the 60s or the New Communist Movement of the 1970s. I know I've read in MIM literature that they say they have no connection organizationally to the 1960s or 70s groups; they have referred to themselves as one of the very few new revolutionary organizations that formed in the 1980s. Anyone have any sources?

Having seen some portions of MIM's web site, I haven't found any instance of "United Snakes," nor have I found a tendency for them to not capitalize their names of Canada or the US - Israel I haven't come across yet. Maybe we should either get verification of this or change the wording to show that the naming conventions are not universal. --BDD 18:52, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

--erebus
 * The conventions used to denote particular inferences vary from paper to paper, though some are consistent. MIM has something in there FAQ regarding their writting style for contributers of which you might want to take a look at. I, fo r one, have seen '$nakes' as well as MIM explaining how imperliast countries should be lower-case, emphasizing on their ilegitimacy.

It looks like someone made those changes since I last came by this page. I've got another bone to pick this time though. Based in Ann Arbor? Where did that come from? I thought they were highly secretive in their organization, hence the pen/code names. --BDD 00:35, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

I am making BDD's changes. I could find no verification for these things either. It is based on speculation, not public knowledge, thus it is inappropriate. There is also no evidence MacKinnon herself disavowed MIM's interpretation of her work.

 * BDD, in answer to your question "Based in Ann Arbor? Where did that come from?" -- the group's publication, MIM Notes, listed an Ann Arbor, Michigan post-office box as the contact address in the print edition. At least it did in the 1990s. Ropcat 01:53, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Harper's
I remember Harper's published MIM's resolution from a party congress in one of their editions a few years ago. I think they titled it something like "Maoists on whoring", but I can't seem to find this anywhere on google. Does anyone know? --Mista-X 18:56, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Why are legitimate and active revolutionary movements in the third world bothring to associate with a bunch of white college kids on the computer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.238.13.240 (talk) 13:56, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

MIM is not Marxist and it is not Leninist either. MIM is a sellout group, that has sold out to Russian imperialism. Check their website and you will see. They actually regard Putin's imperialism as part of the proletarian camp! They want to swap one imperialist master for another. They are not aware that there is no such a thing as a "proggressive imperialism". All imperialism is equally reactionary. Russia is a great capitalist power (only Zyuganovites believe that it is a "semicolony"), therefore Russian imperialism is on the same level with US imperialism. Marxists need to wake up to this fact. RaduFlorianRaduFlorian 11:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Of course, Marxists need to realize that US imperialism and non-US imperialism are equally bad. Because when the war breaks out we will need internationalists in both imperialist camps. And MIM's stance that US imperialism or the US imperialist bloc is the only villain will only strengthen the Zyuganovites and other "patriotic communists" in Russia who support their "own" imperialism. Sadly, there is only one internationalist party in Russia today, namely the Russian Maoist Party, and MIM's stance will not help strengthen it. The international working class needs to break with this paranoid Anti-Americanism. RaduFlorianRaduFlorian 11:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

 * This is all interesting, POV and speculation; but has nothing to do with my question.--Mista-X 16:59, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I also disagree very much with MIM's stance that there is no white proletariat in the developed countres. This simply is NOT TRUE. The truth is that there are millions of starving Whites in the US, yet MIM doesnt give a damn about them. To them, a Third World capitalist is closer to a Third World worker than to a First World white worker. Of course, this is nothing but a lie. A poor White is closer to a poor Black than to a White capitalist, regardless of whether they're aware of this or not. This is what Marxism teaches us. RaduFlorianRaduFlorian 08:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

 * I'm sure there are some hungry white people, but I think you will find that going hungry even as a homeless persyn in north amerikkka is almost impossible. This doesn't mean their aren't any "poor" workers and legitimate struggles in north amerikka. You missed the point, which is that by international standards these "workers" are petty-bourgeois. I also think you need to establish what a proletarian is. Marx and Engels showed us that proletarians don't work then they don't eat. This is not the case with imperialist country "workers". Also, proletarians work with the means of production, whereas most "workers" in the imperialist countries don't even work in production. But again, this has nothing to do with my original question about the Harper's article. --Mista-X (talk) 03:40, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Even if they WERE petty-bourgeois, which, in the case of illegal immigrants, I very much doubt it, their struggles should be supported. Nevertheless, according to Marxism-Leninism the petty-bourgeoisie is not static, it's a class that constantly swells the ranks of the proletariat- the petty-bourgeois of today may well become the proletarian of tomorrow. This is especially true in times of acute crisis of the capitalist system, and, with the rising unemployment we're seeing in world's most powerful capitalist country, it's safe to say that crisis is very near. To overcome it, the imperialist powers will have no other option but to resort to war, and this time it will be an inter-imperialist war, pitting American against Russian imperialists. But this will not improve the living standards, on the contrary, will worsen the condition of the masses. The Western workers will once again become revolutionary, and the West will once again be ripe for anti-capitalist revolution. MIM's mistake, as far as I am familiar with their views, was that it underestimated the revolutionary POTENTIAL of workers in the West, it failed to see that labour aristocracies are not stable and that their struggles are worthy of support. RaduFlorian (talk) 10:00, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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boohoo vandalism
What I have been putting down for MIM and first world whites isn't vandalism. Just ask any MIM member. If you don't side with me, then you're a genocidal jerk.

Also, it is true that MIM has no presence offline. Just ask any activist.

Maybe a “criticisms of MIM” section is needed in this article. If you must create one, then please put my edits in that section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.199.192.235 (talk) 17:40, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Any strong criticisms like this need a proper source, not just a chat with activists. Do you have a source - a publication or a relevant website - which makes these claims? Warofdreams talk 18:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

 * I really think we need a criticisms section on the MIM. NO left organization or leftist takes it seriously. The problem with this of course is that it means the only legitimate source on the MIM is the MIM itself, since noone gives a shit about this group except to mock it on leftist message boards. --Postbagboy (talk) 10:12, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I have a post from their Art Minister, Mousnonya. It's on Youtube. I can prove this person is their Art Minister if you don't believe me. http://youtube.com/watch?v=FLCWr39ZEUs&feature=user Read Mousnonya's post from 2 weeks ago. Again, I can prove Mousnonya is their Art Minister if you don't believe me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.57.88.71 (talk) 01:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

 * No, I believe you when you say that Mousnonya is a representative of the organisation, but comments on Youtube aren't generally accepted as a source. It's not clear from them whether they are a personal opinion, or that of the group.  What we really need is either something from MIM's own publications or website stating that this is their view, or from another publication or relevant website which - whether supportive or critical - states that this is their view.  The claim that they don't have much of a presence off the internet also needs a source.  For example, perhaps you could find one stating that they are secretive about membership numbers and organise primarily over the internet.  And finally, please don't post abuse on my userpage. Warofdreams talk 00:04, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Regarding my own criticism on MIM, it is true that Mousnonya answered me on his blog. But the his answer seems unconvincing to me. He asserts that the American imperialism is the number one enemy of mankind, since it is the most powerful of all imperialisms. But it is not clear whether he considers US imperialism as the main enemy in some countries dominated by it, or as the main enemy EVERYWHERE, including in countries like Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan or even Serbia, where it is obvious that the biggest foreign capitalists are NOT the Americans. If you regard the American imperialism as the main enemy in SOME countries, then we agree. But if you see it as the main enemy EVERYWHERE- including other imperialist countries and their saTellites, then it's safe to say that we have A PROBLEM.RaduFlorian (talk) 09:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I mean, check out the latest article on their website, to see for yourselves how their paranoid AntiAmericanism has turned them into cheerleaders for Russian imperialism! This is so sad. Russia is a MAJOR imperialist SUPERPOWER, with TOP MULTINATIONALS which opress MILLIONS of people across the world and which, unlike those of China and India are backed by THOUSANDS of nuclear warheads. We as Communists cannot afford to betray the antiimperialist struggle in so many countries dominated by RuSSian capitalists- including RuSSia itself, therefore these despicable imperialists have NO PLACE in an "international antiimperialist front". More than that, I firmly believe the issue of Russian imperialism has become the dividing line in the international Communist movement- between those who are soft on it and those who are not. RaduFlorian (talk) 06:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

It's true the absolute AntiAmericanism promoted by MIM made some sense in the 1990s or early 2000s, when the Americans enjoyed unchallanged world hegemony, but nowadays, when OTHER capitalist empires have emerged, it has turned into a HINDRANCE for the World Communist Movement. Absolute AntiAmericanism is something we can no longer afford. RaduFlorian (talk) 07:54, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

"...it is true that MIM has no presence offline." For one thing, MIM had a printed newspaper and magazine. So that was offline. When I was in RAIL, we did a benefit concert in Long Beach, CA, to raise money for books for prisoners. None of that happened online either. Frankly, I think most of their activities were offline, but there is no real way to quantify how much they did online vs. offline. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.51.132.152 (talk) 23:17, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Question
Having just recently become aware of MIM, and perusing its archives, the writing style is fresh in my mind. Having also just recently become aware of Gloria La Riva, and reading a bit of her blog, I've noticed a strikingly similar (albeit toned down) style that switched on a light bulb in my head. Could this be mere coincidence, or does La Riva = "MIM"? This isn't a witch-hunt or smear; I'm passing no judgments, just wondering if I'm the first to think of this.

 * I don't see any similarity in the writing style, nor is there much similarity in the political positions at all, nor does her personal history suggest that she ever had anything to do with MIM. It's now well known that Henry Park was the "main" person behind MIM. Mista-X (talk) 01:26, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

 * I think Marxists of even opposing tendencies who've read the same writers often communicate in a similar argot and rhetorical mode. 2601:448:C580:6D70:F9B1:F605:992F:77D2 (talk) 15:49, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Shouldn't we refer to MIM in the past-tense?
Or at least refer to it as such in some parts of the article. Like, instead of "MIM's newspaper, MIM Notes, is anonymously written" it should be "MIM's newspaper, MIM Notes, was anonymously written" since said newspaper doesn't exist anymore to my knowledge. The organization might still exist, but in an obviously reduced form in which most of the article no longer currently applies to it. --Mrdie (talk) 15:44, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I would say so. Please feel free to edit the article to change the tense. Warofdreams talk 13:07, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Needs cleanup of weasel wording and such
The article seems very biased in favour of the subject, rather than approaching it from a more neutral angle, such as describing its theory as "unique" and "unusual" and so forth. It could use some serious help from an expert on the subject. Laval (talk) 08:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Accuracy
And considering there are barely any secondary sources, and absolutely no critical sources, I'd say the article is not neutral either. There is plenty of criticism of this group out there. Laval (talk) 08:39, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Not noteworthy?
Someone has put a "not noteworthy" tag on this article. If one is going to claim that MIM is not "not noteworthy," one might as well claim as much for almost the entire American farleft. Surely MIM has been as influential, if not more so, than any number of small far-left groups. MIM is more influential in intellectual circles than groups like FRSO, RCP, ISO, PFOC or the Sparts. In addition, MIM has outproduced groups like the FRSO, PFOC, etc. in terms of literature. MIM's Theory magazine was certainly a more professional publication than FRSO's Forward Motion or PFOC's Breakthrough. MIM was putting out a newspaper (MIM notes) for years. FRSO, for example, can't point to no similar output. Also, MIM's "successor" groups appear to be larger than many remaining new-left sects -- this alone is a reason to keep the MIM entry: MIM's continued relevance to current far-left groups. I note that nobody has tagged these other groups (FRSO, Sparts, etc) with a "Not noteworthy" tag. What is going on here is that members of competing far-left sects are trying to get the MIM wiki entry erased. This is an act of pure unprincipled sectarianism on their part. Anyone who has any familiarity with the American far left is aware of MIM. Everyone has an opinion of them, be it positive or negative.
 * Well then, let's remove it. Done.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.100.234.225 (talk) 03:23, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * If you want to remove the tag, you should provide reliable, independent sources that show the subject's notability. Accusations of bad faith towards other users are not appropriate unless you can prove they are acting in bad faith. Edward321 (talk) 16:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The tag has hereby been removed. To be consistent, the "notability" tag would have to be applied to a broad range of Wikipedia entries for self-described Maoist/Maoist-influenced groups around the world, especially in Europe and the United States.  Applying such a standard across the board would decimate what the English Wikipedia has gathered for information on Maoism in the Western world.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.6.41 (talk) 02:41, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The "not noteworthy" tag is quite appropriate and it shouldn't have been removed. MIM was never anything more than one lonely man pretending to be a "movement".  If I publish a zine with my revolutionary fantasies can I have a Wikipedia article?

I am sure that catherine mackinnon is not the origionator of "all sex is rape"- It was andrea Dworkin in "intercourse" Mattulon (talk) 08:27, 25 October 2011 (UTC)MATTULONMattulon (talk) 08:27, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

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removing claim
Removing the false assertion that MIM "claimed to adhere to a radical Maoist Third Worldist ideology." This simply isn't true. MIM never used that term. MIM referred to their ideology as "MIM Thought." The term "Maoist Third Worldist" stems from a time after MIM dissolved. Please do not falsify this history.

 * I'm not sure who posted the above, but I have also removed this re: what they said. As far as I know aside from two individuals no one uses the MTW term to describe their ideology. MIM never used it, RAIM doesn't use it anymore and neither does LLCO. Mista-X (talk) 00:57, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

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MIM was Henry Park and No One Else
There is no evidence that MIM was anything other than Henry Park's ravings. No one else is a member (except for "secret numbers") and the writing style in each article is the same. Park had funds to produce a newspaper which made "MIM" appear to be more than it was, but MIM == Henry Park, full stop. It was a good scam in its time and no doubt Park wanted to have more members than just his pretend friends, but the "Movement" (LOL) was just Park going back and forth to his PO Box. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.209.228 (talk) 00:41, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

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Derrygonnelly

Derrygonnelly is a small village and townland in County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland. Near Lower Lough Erne, the village was home to 680 people at the 2011 Census and dates to the Plantation era. It is situated within Fermanagh and Omagh district.

The village has a long history of Irish traditional music and each year in early October there is a celebration of local talent in memory of musicians Eddie Duffy and Mick Hoy. Musicians come from all over Ireland and from further afield to enjoy this festival which bases itself in any of Derrygonnelly's four pubs.

Transport
Ulsterbus route 59 provides several journeys a day to/from Enniskillen via Monea and The Graan. There are no Saturday or Sunday services.

History
Derrygonnelly is of ancient origin taking its name from doire or grove of the O'Connelly's it was a site of inauguration for Irish kings.

The townland of Derrygonnelly contains two Scheduled Historic Monuments: Dunbar manor plantation castle, grid ref: H11871 52475 and a 17th-century church, grid ref: H1208 5240.

Places of interest
The old creamery in Derrygonnelly has been converted into a residential environmental education centre, Tir Navar, run by the Field Studies Council.

Approximately one mile to the northwest of the village are the ruins of Carrick Church; built by Gilbert O'Flanagan in 1483 "In Honour of God and Mary". The church's graveyard was used by the locals until around 1930. Also just north of the village is a small ruined church that combines medieval and Renaissance features, built in 1627 by Sir John Dunbar. His coat of arms is located over the doorway. Other 17th-century ruins in the nearby area include Monea Castle and Tully Castle, the latter having been sacked and burned by Rory Maguire on Christmas Day during the 1641 rebellion. As well as Lower Lough Erne to the north, Derrygonnelly is surrounded by small lakes and is split by the Sillees River, which is popular with canoeists.

4 mi outside the village towards Garrison is Correl Glen and Lough Navar Forest Drive. The Forest Drive is a 7 mi walk through Lough Navar Forest and has a viewpoint at the top which overlooks Lower Lough Erne, as far as the County Donegal coast to the west and the Sperrin Mountains in County Tyrone to the north and east. On the opposite side of the road lies Correl Glen, which features another walking route, with some small waterfalls near the entrance.

Education
Derrygonnelly has two primary schools:
 * St Patrick's Primary School
 * Derrygonnelly Controlled Primary School

GAA
The local Gaelic football team are the Derrygonnelly Harps (Doire Ó gConaile na Cláirsigh) who play on their home ground of Canon Maguire Park. The club was founded in 1924. The team have won nine Fermanagh Senior Championships (New York Gold Cup), one in 1995, 2004, 2009, 5 in a row from 2015-2019 and 2021. There are teams fielded at every level of men's and ladies' football.

Demography
On Census Day (27 March 2011) the usually resident population of Derrygonnelly Settlement was 680, accounting for 0.04% of the NI total. Of these:
 * 20.59% were aged under 16 and 13.24% were aged 65 and over
 * 50.15% of the population were male and 49.85% were female
 * 75.88% belong to or were brought up in the Catholic religion and 20.15% belong to or were brought up in a 'Protestant and Other Christian (including Christian related)' religion; and
 * 19.85% indicated that they had a British national identity, 46.62% had an Irish national identity and 34.85% had a Northern Irish national identity.
 * 5.84% of people aged 16–74 were unemployed.

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Shane Tutmarc

Shane Tutmarc (born September 25, 1981) is an American producer, songwriter, singer and multi-instrumentalist.

Career
Tutmarc is the great-grandson of Paul Tutmarc, who has been credited as the inventor of the electric bass. His grandfather, Bud Tutmarc, was a well-known Hawaiian steel guitar player.

Tutmarc was the leader of Seattle band Dolour from 1997 to 2007. He has played in several other bands, including United State of Electronica and Shane Tutmarc & The Traveling Mercies. In June 2009, Tutmarc released his first solo album, Shouting at a Silent Sky. In January 2010, he re-located to Nashville, Tennessee. Several of his songs have been featured on television programs and films. In 2016, Tutmarc began a new project called Solar Twin.

Tutmarc has produced and played instruments on other artists' albums, including Ian McGlynn's "Tomorrow's Taken" (2004), Sameer Shukla's "There's Only One Side Tonight" (2005), Patrick Kinsley's "Rattling the Cage" (2014), Tanya Montana Coe's "Silver Bullet" (2015) and "Hide Your Emotion" (2019), and both of The Explorers Club's 2020 full-length releases.

Dolour

 * "The Shivering / That Dreadful Anthem (Single)" 7-inch (1998)
 * "Waiting for a World War" (2001)
 * "Iceland / The Ballad (Single)" 7-inch (2001)
 * "Suburbiac" (2002)
 * "CPR (EP)" (2003)
 * "New Old Friends" (2004)
 * "A Matter of Time: 2000-2005 (Compilation)" (2005)
 * "The Years in the Wilderness (Album)" (2007)
 * "The Royal We (Album)" (2020)
 * "Televangelist (Album)" (2021)
 * "Origin Story (Album)" (2021)
 * "Daylight Upon Magic (Album)" (2024)

Shane Tutmarc & The Traveling Mercies

 * "I'm Gonna Live the Life I Sing About In My Song" (2007)
 * "Hey Lazarus!" (2008)
 * "Live On Air" (2019) - Bandcamp exclusive collection of radio performances

Solo

 * "Shouting At A Silent Sky (Album)" (2009)
 * "Ride (Single)" (2013) Lana Del Rey cover
 * "Portions for Foxes (Single)" (2013) Rilo Kiley cover
 * "Aneurysm (Single)" (2013) Nirvana cover
 * "Borrowed Trouble (Album)" (2014)
 * "Busy Being Born Again (Compilation)" (2018) collection of home recorded covers from 2007-2009
 * "Seattle Is Dying (Single)" (2019) - featured in the KOMO News documentary, Seattle is Dying
 * "Dark Circles: The Shouting at a Silent Sky Demos (Compilation)" (2019) - BandCamp exclusive
 * "A Brave New World (Single)" (2020)
 * "Written & Produced by Shane Tutmarc (Compilation)" (2020) - featuring solo songs, plus Dolour and Solar Twin.

Solar Twin

 * "Slow Motion (Single)" (2016)
 * "Black Sky Revisited (Single)" (2016)
 * "The Big Sleep (Single)" (2017)
 * "Pink Noise (Album)" (2017)
 * "I Would Die 4 U (Single)" (2018) Record Store Day cover of Prince song.
 * "Hold On To This Moment (Single)" (2018)

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Shout to the Lord 2000

Shout to the Lord 2000 is a live praise and worship album of contemporary worship music by Hillsong. The album appeared on the Billboard 200 and reached No. 8 on the Top Contemporary Christian Albums Chart.

Making of the album
Shout to the Lord 2000 was recorded live at the 1998 Hillsong Conference by Darlene Zschech and the Hillsong team. Ron Kenoly and Alvin Slaughter also appear on this album. It was recorded at the State Sports Centre as well.

Track listing

 * 1) "Can't Stop Talking" (Russell Fragar) lead vocalist: Darlene Zschech
 * 2) "Friends in High Places" (Fragar) lead vocalist: Darlene Zschech
 * 3) "God Is in the House" (Fragar & Darlene Zschech) lead vocalist: Darlene Zschech
 * 4) "All Things Are Possible" (Zschech) lead vocalist: Darlene Zschech
 * 5) "Jesus Is Alive" (Ron Kenoly) lead vocalist: Ron Kenoly
 * 6) "Breathe on Me" (Lucy Fisher) lead vocalist: Darlene Zschech
 * 7) "My Heart Will Trust" (Reuben Morgan) lead vocalist: Mark Stevens & Darlene Zschech
 * 8) "The Potter's Hand" (Zschech) lead vocalist: Darlene Zschech
 * 9) "Love You So Much" (Fragar) lead vocalist: Darlene Zschech
 * 10) "That's What We Came Here For" (Fragar & Zschech) lead vocalist: Darlene Zschech
 * 11) "My Redeemer Lives" (Morgan) lead vocalist: Darlene Zschech
 * 12) "God Is Good" (Alvin Slaughter) lead vocalist: Alvin Slaughter
 * 13) "Shout to the Lord" (Zschech) lead vocalist: Ron Kenoly, Darlene Zschech & Alvin Slaughter
 * 14) "Glory to the King" (Zschech) lead vocalist: Darlene Zschech
 * 15) "Eagle's Wings" (Morgan) lead vocalists: Darlene Zschech & Steve McPherson
 * 16) "Hear Our Praises" (Morgan) lead vocalists: Darlene Zschech & Reuben Morgan

Credits

 * David Moyse – guitar, engineer
 * Jeff Todd – engineer, post production engineer
 * Darlene Zschech – arranger, producer, worship leader, vocal director
 * Chris Springer – A&R
 * Mark Stevens – vocals
 * David Riley – design
 * Reuben Morgan – acoustic guitar, vocals
 * Megan Parker – saxophone
 * Russell Fragar – piano, engineer, post production engineer, producer, arranger
 * Cameron Wade – director, technical director
 * Matt Damico – mixing assistant
 * Ross Peacock –drums
 * Chris Miline – percussion
 * Peter King – timpani
 * Rick Peteriet – drums
 * Bart Elsmore – engineer, post production engineer
 * Greg Hughes – trombone
 * Mark Gregory – trumpet
 * Lisa Young- vocals
 * Donia Gandjou – vocals
 * Nick Asha – engineer
 * Trevor Beck – engineer, post production engineer, assistant engineer
 * Erica Crocker – vocals
 * Lucy Fisher – vocals
 * Craig Gower – keyboards, vocals
 * Scott Haslem – vocals, vocal director
 * Michael Cuthbertson – director, technical director
 * Ruth Grant – choir director
 * Hills Christian Life centre choir – choir, chorus
 * Karen Parker -saxophone
 * Chris Thomason – executive producer
 * Don Moen – executive producer
 * Ron Davis – engineer, mixing
 * Alvin Slaughter – vocals, performer
 * Matt Barnes – engineer
 * Ron Kenoly – leader, performer

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1994 in games

This page lists board and card games, wargames, miniatures games, and tabletop role-playing games published in 1994. For video games, see 1994 in video gaming.

Games released or invented in 1994
• Australian Rails

• BattleTech Tactical Handbook

• Castle Falkenstein (role-playing game)

• CityTech (2nd edition)

• Crosstrack

• Dixie - Bull Run

• Dixie - Gettysburg

• Dixie - Shiloh

• Don't Look Back (role-playing game)

• Doom Trooper Collectible Card Game

• Galactic Empires

• HoL: Human Occupied Landfill (role-playing game)

• Illuminati: New World Order

• I'm the Boss!

• Jyhad (AKA Vampire: The Eternal Struggle)

• NFL Fantasy Football

• On the Edge

• Once Upon a Time

• Planescape (campaign setting for Dungeons & Dragons)

• RoboRally

• Spellfire

• Star Trek Customizable Card Game

• Super Deck!

• Talk Dirty to Me

• Via Prudensiae (role-playing game)

• Wraith: The Oblivion (role-playing game)

Game awards given in 1994

 * Spiel des Jahres: Manhattan

Significant games-related events in 1994

 * Avalanche Press founded by Mike Bennighof and Brian Knipple.
 * Hasbro buys Waddingtons.

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Memoria

Memoria was the term for aspects involving memory in Western classical rhetoric. The word is Latin, and can be translated as "memory".

It was one of five canons in classical rhetoric (the others being inventio, dispositio, elocutio, and pronuntiatio) concerned with the crafting and delivery of speeches and prose.

The art of rhetoric grew out of oratory, which was the central medium for intellectual and political life in ancient Greece. Legal proceedings, political debates, philosophical inquiry were all conducted through spoken discourse. Many of the great texts from that age were not written texts penned by the authors we associate them with, but were instead orations written down by followers and students. In Roman times, while there was a much greater body of written work, oration was still the medium for critical debate. Unlike public speakers of today, who use notes or who read their speeches, good orators were expected to deliver their speeches without such aids.

Memoria was the discipline of recalling the arguments of a discourse. It generally received less attention from writers than other parts of rhetoric, as there is less to be said about the subject. However, the need to memorize speeches did influence the structure of discourse to some extent. For example, as part of dispositio, some attention was paid to creating structures (such as the divisio, an outline of the major arguments of a discourse) that would also aid memory. Some writers also discussed the use of various mnemonic devices to assist speakers.

But rhetoricians also viewed memoria as requiring more than just rote memorization. Rather, the orator also had to have at his command a wide body of knowledge to permit improvisation, to respond to questions, and to refute opposing arguments. Where today's speech-making tends to be a staged, one-way affair, in former times, much oration occurred as part of debates, dialogues, and other settings, in which orators had to react to others. Moreover, rhetoricians also recognized that the credibility of a speaker depended not just on the strength of his prepared arguments, but on the audience's perceptions of the speaker. In Greece, Rome, and Renaissance Europe, a speaker's familiarity of many areas of learning was seen as a virtue.

In the Renaissance
When the Humanists took up the ideas on memory found the writings of Classical authors, memoria played an important role in the pedagogical system. Texts were learned first by rote memorization, then re-read for meaning. Children's ability to memorize was aided by "memory tables", which were first available in manuscript form, and were, from the 1470s onwards, some of the first products of the printing press. (Source: Paul Gehl, A Moral Art: Grammar, Society, and Culture in Trecento Florence (1993).)

Memory and kairos
Memory, the fourth canon of rhetoric, and invention, the first canon, are connected. The ad Herennium states that memory is the "treasury of things invented", indirectly referring to the custom of accumulating commonplaces. Hence, for a rhetor, memory is as much related to the need to extemporize as to the necessity to memorize a discourse for delivery; in this way it is linked to kairos and to the ideas of copia and amplification (Burton).

Crowley and Hawhee state about memory and kairos, "... kairos and memory were partnered in several ways. First, both require a kind of 'attunement' in that the rhetor who is gathering items for reserve in the memory must be thinking simultaneously about what's available now that might be useful later. Secondly, memory requires an attunement during the moment of speaking or composing, a recognition of the right time for recalling an illustrative example, an argument, and so on" (317).

Memory systems
Ancient peoples used elaborate systems, such as the method of loci, to store large amounts of information in their memories. Today, we use literate and electronic memory systems. Literate memory systems include books, periodicals, and libraries. Electronic systems include computers, databases, computer software, the World Wide Web, and other artificial memory devices (Crowley and Hawhee 325–28).

Memorizing one's speech
Centuries ago, ancient orators had to memorize and present speeches without the help of note cards or crib sheets. Notetaking, as a way to remember certain things, was looked down upon in ancient cultures. In his Phaedrus, Plato has Socrates explaining that relying on writing or taking notes weakened the mind and memory:

"If men learn this, it will implant forgetfulness in their souls: they will cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written, calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves."

Any Greek in ancient times who was caught using the note-taking method would be laughed at and deemed "weak-minded". Nowadays, it is much more common for speakers to use note cards, though speeches are much more impressive without the use of notes. Using memory during a speech can also affect how the orator influences the audience. When the speaker addresses the audiences relying solely on their memory, they build a certain amount of ethos within the relationship. Memoria in relation to ethos during a speech situation can be described as a certain amount trustworthiness felt between the audience, as well as a level of similarity, authority, or expertise that the orator has over the audience. Unlike ancient Greece, in today's society, it is much more acceptable for politicians and for people of authority to use aids when delivering addresses. Although it could be viewed as an aid to use notes or teleprompters, greater importance is placed on actually conveying the information to the audience in a clear and concise manner.

Making one's speech memorable
For ancient orators, the excellence of how a speech was presented was more important than the simple delivery of the speech. An important feature of delivering a speech was finding ways to make one's audience remember one's speech topic. One had to be sure to one's audience learned the information or ideas presented to it.

Keeping a treasury of rhetorical fodder
The third element of memory has to do with using quotes, facts, or anecdotes that could be used in future speeches. A professional orator is known to always have a treasury of rhetorical fodder close at all times.

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It Came from the Desert

It Came from the Desert is a 1989 action-adventure game by Cinemaware. It was originally released for the Amiga, but later ported to MS-DOS, as well as released in distinctly different forms to consoles. The TurboGrafx-16 release is distinctly different from the computer versions, in terms of gameplay and presentation. An expansion set Antheads: It Came from the Desert II was released in 1990.

The game is inspired by dozens of 1950s monster movies especially the 1954 mutant-ant classic Them!, with the title referencing the 1953 horror film, It Came from Outer Space. The game is a non-linear combination of dialogue boxes and several types of action scenes, typical of contemporary Cinemaware releases.

Gameplay
It Came From the Desert on Amiga/DOS is a Point & Click Action/Adventure game with FPS and overhead sections. It is mostly based around detective work, with less puzzle based mechanics and more of a time based exploration mechanic. The Sega Genesis version is an overhead shooter similar to Ikari Warriors.

Plot
The player assumes the role of Dr. Greg Bradley who comes to remote Lizard Breath, California on June 1, 1951. As a geologist, he wants to study a meteor crash site somewhere in the desert south-west of the small town. Early in the game he learns that the radiation of the meteor has enlarged a local ant population to an enormous size, however few take his observations seriously. Worried that the ants will soon multiply and spread, he must work against a ticking clock and devise a plan to stop the ants from terrorizing the world. In order to succeed the player must visit many locations ranging from mines, farms, a pub, an airfield, a local radio station and others to find evidence of the ants, then convince townsfolk and authorities of impending doom. At the same time the player must contain the ant infestation.

Only in using every resource available, from workers to the tanks and fighter jets of the National Guard, will the player be able to take the fight to the giant ants.

Mechanically, It Came From the Desert can be considered real-time. Waiting, sleeping (at home or in a hospital bed) and driving around consumes time. As it turns out, the player has a fixed amount of in-game days (15 days, ending with June 15) to succeed. If Bradley fails by this date, the ants will spread, which results in a gloomy ending. To reach a good ending, the player must locate the ant colony and kill the queen ant.

Release
It Came From the Desert was originally released for the Amiga in 1989 and then was ported to several other popular systems of the era. In early 1991, Cinemaware released a version for MS-DOS (ported by Level 9 Computing in a final attempt to stay in business before they ceased operations in June of that year). This version was, apart from minor palette differences, identical to the original.

A Sega Genesis/Mega Drive version was to be released in 1990, but was cancelled. It is an overhead shooter with the main protagonist running around on foot, although it features more free roaming gameplay than traditional scrolling shooters. Among the differences in play mechanics, the Sega version allowed the player to create powerups that were fashioned by collecting machinery pieces and joining them together in different combinations. The storyline also differs from the game, instead casting the player not as the scientist from the original but as a teenage pest control worker known as Buzz who makes a variety of improvisational weapons with various materials combined with his pest control equipment. Prior to cancellation, former Black Pearl Software programmer Matt Harmon stated that the Genesis/Mega Drive version was 99% complete. Although the Sega version was never actually offered for sale, it was distributed as a ROM image (for use with console emulators) from the Cinemaware website after the turn of the 21st century. Despite the similarity of camera perspective, the Sega version did not appear to reuse any of the graphical elements created for use in the computer-based versions. In 2014, Cinemaware teamed up with Pier Solar developer WaterMelon to develop a cartridge version called Extended Cut with new cutscenes, endings, a new intro sequence and "additional gameplay elements". As of April 2016, the game still has not been released.

The game and its expansion were released on Steam as part of a Cinemaware Anthology collection.

TurboGrafx-CD
The TurboGrafx-CD version, designed and directed by David Riordan, was released in 1991. It is a CD-ROM based game that makes use of full motion video with recorded sequences of live actors. There are also action sequences that use drawn graphical elements (not captured, as seen in games such as Mean Streets by Access Software). The side-scrolling action sequence consists of the player battling ants in tunnels. The TurboGrafx-CD version did reuse the graphical elements from the computer version for the overhead battle sequences, but not for any of the character conversation segments. The storyline and characters were dramatically changed; the player character is no longer a spry scientist from the city visiting the countryside, but a local teenage biker punk named Buzz Lincoln who is somehow immune to the ant queen's mind control and begins a nearly hopeless counterattack against her hordes.

Reception
In the July 1990 edition of Games International (Issue 16), John Scott commented: "Right from the opening sequence you know that this is something special." He noted the replayability of the game, noting: "There is no way that you will be able to discover all the subplots in one game, and this adds to the lasting appeal of the game." And he also lauded the technical aspects of the game, calling the graphics "first rate", and the sound "the best I've ever come across in any game." He concluded by rating both gameplay and graphics an excellent nine out of ten. Scott also reviewed the sequel Antheads, and found that it was too similar to the original game, noting: "More varied graphics and a complete new soundtrack would have been nice." However, Scott admitted that the low purchase price for what was essentially an add-on chapter made it a worthwhile purchase.

Computer Gaming World called It Came from the Desert "one of the most enjoyable programs yet to emerge from Cinemaware ... a very playable and compelling game with many enjoyable hours to be experienced". Antheads won game of the year honors from Computer & Video Games magazine.

In 1991, PC Format declared It Came from the Desert one of the 50 best computer games ever. The editors wrote that "a classic '50s B-movie plot combined with some lovely graphics make this a fun game".

Expansion pack
It Came from the Desert was followed by a 1990 expansion pack called Antheads: It Came from the Desert II (known in North America as It Came from the Desert II) that required the player to already own the main game. The sequel was directed and designed by David Riordan and was available on store shelves in Europe and via mail order in North America.

Plot summary
The game takes place five years after It Came from the Desert in January 1956 and expands on the possible second Ant Queen mentioned in the first game's ending. The player character is Brick Nash, a war veteran and now working as a truck driver who has stolen a detonator for an atomic bomb because his younger brother Andy is a tester for the weapon. Nash fears that the Army's then-ignorance of radiation will cause his brother and other testers to die. Nash must find evidence that will prove radiation is fatal, as well as help the town fend off the new ant army.

Brick Nash is an ex-fighter pilot who has recently returned from the Korean War, responding to a warning of thousands of potential deaths due to atomic testing in the desert outside the town of Lizard Breath.

Whereas the protagonist of the first game – Dr. Greg Bradley – was known to the people of Lizard Breath who were willing to help him, Nash is a stranger to them. Townspeople also transform into ants in front of Nash.

Reception
In the July 1990 edition of Games International (Issue 16), John Scott found that it was too similar to the original game, noting: "More varied graphics and a complete new soundtrack would have been nice." However, Scott admitted that the low purchase price for what was essentially an add-on chapter made it a worthwhile purchase. He concluded by rating both gameplay and graphics an excellent 9 out of 10.

Mark Patterson from CU Amiga (May, 1990) rated the game at 95% and recommended Antheads to anyone who owned It Came from the Desert, calling it "One of the best sequels to date."

Gary Whitta from The One (Jun, 1990) rated the game at 91% and noted that "Antheads doesn't radically change It Came from the Desert. What you get is the next episode in the story – effectively the same game built around a new mystery, with new puzzles to solve and the odd gameplay tweak. But this is no bad thing, as it's precisely what Desert needed – there's no need to change the core gameplay drastically, as it works brilliantly already."

Phil South form ACE (Advanced Computer Entertainment) (Jun, 1990) declared that Antheads is "a better game than the original in my view, if only for the scary ant transformation sequence", and felt that people who had not even played the original game would enjoy it: "If anything it's an incentive to buy the original, just to play this version as well."

The Games Machine (Jun, 1990) said that "If you liked the original, you'll love this cos it's more of the same."

Zzap!64 praised the story and declared that the gameplay was "different enough to justify the price".

Reviews

 * ASM (Aktueller Software Markt)
 * Datormagazin
 * Power Play
 * Amiga Joker
 * Amiga Action #9 (Jun 1990)

Legacy

 * It Came From the Desert was parodied in a Space Quest IV reference: the player can find the box of the "Enemaware" game It came for Dessert in a store, where the woman holds a cake, and a fat man replaces the ant.
 * An extensive spinoff appeared in the 1996 game Command & Conquer: Red Alert as four secret missions named "It came from Red Alert", where the player combats giant ants.
 * In 2015, Cinemaware and Roger! Pictures developed a film version of the game. The film was directed by Marko Mäkilaakso. It was filmed in Almería (Spain) in the autumn of 2016, in the Tabernas Desert and in Rodalquilar.
 * It Returned to the Desert is a spiritual successor which was released on February 15, 2023 for Windows PCs via Steam and Itch.io as a turn-based tactics and point-and-click adventure game.

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McCormick Theological Seminary

McCormick Theological Seminary is a private Presbyterian seminary in Chicago, Illinois. As of 2023, it shares a campus with the Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago and Catholic Theological Union, in the Hyde Park neighborhood of Chicago. A letter of intent was signed on May 5, 2022, to sell the formerly shared campus with the Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago to the University of Chicago. The agreement allows the two seminaries to lease back facilities on the campus. Although it primarily serves the Presbytery of Chicago and the Synod of Lincoln Trails, McCormick Theological Seminary also educates members of other Christian denominations.

History

Hanover Seminary was established in 1829 as a preparatory school in Hanover, Indiana, for prospective ministers in the Presbyterian Church in the U.S.A., hoping to serve on the western frontier of the expanding United States. After about ten years, the seminary moved a short distance to New Albany, Indiana, where it became the New Albany Theological Seminary. When the western frontier boundary moved, the school also moved and opened in Chicago's present-day Lincoln Park neighborhood in 1859 where the school was first known as the Theological Seminary of the Northwest. In 1886, it was renamed in honor of American industrialist Cyrus McCormick (1809–1884), who had served as a member of the seminary's board of trustees.

In 1975, facing a dire financial situation and declining enrollment, McCormick sold the Lincoln Park campus to DePaul University and moved to the Hyde Park neighborhood in Chicago. This move divested the institution of infrastructure while reinforcing its commitment to urban ministry. Sharing facilities with the Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago (LSTC), McCormick began to help foster important ecumenical cooperation between the Presbyterian and Lutheran churches. In 2003 McCormick reinforced and recommitted itself to its ecumenical partnership with LSTC by building a new building on the LSTC campus.

Notable faculty

 * Cleland Boyd McAfee taught theology (1912–1930)
 * Joseph Haroutunian
 * Kenneth E. Bailey
 * Enos Pomeroy Baker (1856–1911), 1886 graduate and former president, Presbyterian College of the Southwest at Del Norte, CO. Baker was also the founding minister of Westminster Presbyterian Church, Los Angeles, the oldest African American Presbyterian church in California and west of the Mississippi River.
 * James Gore King McClure Jr. first (President of McCormick Theological Seminary 1905–1929)
 * Rev. Dr. Andrew Constantinides Zenos (Dean of McCormick Theological Seminary 1920–1934)
 * Ovid R. Sellers (Dean of McCormick Theological Seminary 1934–1954)

Notable alumni

 * David Frank Graf
 * Bobby Rush
 * Steven A. Schaick
 * Frederick Wedge

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Rabbits (film)

Rabbits is a 2002 series of eight short horror web films written and directed by David Lynch, although Lynch himself refers to it as a sitcom. It depicts three humanoid rabbits played by Scott Coffey, Laura Elena Harring and Naomi Watts in a room. Their disjointed conversations are interrupted by a laugh track. Rabbits is presented with the tagline "In a nameless city deluged by a continuous rain... three rabbits live with a fearful mystery".

Originally consisting of a series of eight short episodes shown exclusively on Lynch's website, Rabbits is no longer available there. The films are now only available on DVD in the "Lime Green Set" collection of Lynch's films, in a re-edited four-episode version. The set also does not contain episode three. As of 2020, Lynch has been occasionally uploading the original episodes to YouTube. In addition, the setting and some footage of the rabbits were reused in Lynch's Inland Empire.

Description
Rabbits takes place entirely within a single box set representing the living room of a house. Within the set, three humanoid rabbits enter, exit, and converse. One, Jack, is male and wears a smart suit. The other two, Suzie and Jane, are female, one of whom wears a dress, the other a dressing gown. The audience watches from about the position of a television set. In each episode, the rabbits converse in apparent non sequiturs. The lines evoke mystery, and include "Were you blonde?", "Something's wrong", "I wonder who I will be", "I only wish they would go somewhere", "It had something to do with the telling of time", and "no one must find out about this". The disordered but seemingly related lines the rabbits speak suggest that the dialogue could be pieced together into sensible conversations, but concrete interpretations are elusive.

Some of the rabbits' lines are punctuated by a seemingly random laugh track, as if being filmed before a live audience. In addition, whenever one of the rabbits enters the room, the unseen audience whoops and applauds at great length, much like in a sitcom. The rabbits themselves, however, remain serious throughout.

In some episodes, mysterious events take place, including the appearance of a burning hole in the wall and the intrusion of a strange, demonic voice coupled with sinister red lighting. Three episodes involve a solo performance by one rabbit, in which they recite strange poetry, as if performing a demonic ritual.

The rabbits receive a telephone call at one point, and later, at the climax of the series, a knock is heard at the door. When the door is opened, a loud scream is heard and the image is distorted. After the door closes, Jack says it was the man in the green coat. The last episode concludes with the rabbits huddled together on the couch and Jane saying "I wonder who I will be."

Production
Lynch filmed Rabbits in a set built in the garden of his house in the Hollywood Hills. Filming took place at night in order to control the lighting. Lynch says that filming Watts, Harring and Coffey with the set lit up by enormous lights was "a beautiful thing". However, the process generated a lot of noise that echoed from the surrounding hills and annoyed Lynch's neighbors. The unique use of lighting to create shadows and set an uneasy atmosphere has been praised by critics.

As with most of Lynch's films, the score was composed by Angelo Badalamenti.

Reception
Rabbits received positive reviews from viewers, who highly praised the sitcom for its lighting, sound design and scary atmosphere.

Possible influences
Dave Kehr noted in The New York Times that it was Alain Resnais who first put giant rodent heads on his actors in his 1980 film Mon oncle d'Amérique, and the rabbits' dialogue is reminiscent of Resnais' Last Year at Marienbad.

The dialogue has been compared to the writing of Samuel Beckett.

Use in Inland Empire
Lynch used some of the Rabbits footage as well as previously unseen footage featuring Rabbits characters in his film Inland Empire (2006). Lynch also used the Rabbits set to shoot several scenes involving human characters. In that film, excerpts from Rabbits appear but the rabbits are associated with three mysterious Polish characters who live in a house in the woods.

DVD release
Most of Rabbits can be found on the "Mystery DVD" in the 10-disc The Lime Green Set released by Absurda in 2008. This DVD features seven of the eight episodes, though several of the episodes have been edited together. "Episode 1" on the DVD contains "Episode 1", "Episode 2" and "Episode 4" from the website. "Episode 2" on the DVD contains "Episode 6" and "Episode 8" from the website. "Scott" and "Naomi" are the same as "Episode 5" and "Episode 7", respectively. "Episode 3" from the website does not appear on the disc. Presumably, this episode would have been retitled "Rebekah", as it features only one performer as with "Scott" and "Naomi". The DVD's running time is 43 minutes instead of 50 minutes like the original version. The other seven minutes consist of title and credit sequences for each individual episode that were edited out to allow it to flow as a film.

Use in psychological research
Rabbits was used as a stimulus in a psychological experiment on the effects of acetaminophen on existential crisis. The research, in a paper entitled "The Common Pain of Surrealism and Death" suggested that acetaminophen acted to suppress the compensatory desire to affirm systems of meaning that viewing surrealism has been shown to produce.

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Miraflores

Miraflores is the name of several places in Spanish-speaking countries. It means "behold the flowers" or "flowers view" from mirar ("to look at, to watch") and flores ("flowers"). It is commonly used as a name for a region or neighborhood that is considered especially beautiful or ornate.

Caribbean

 * Miraflores, Distrito Nacional, a sector in the city of Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
 * Miraflores, Añasco, Puerto Rico, a barrio
 * Miraflores, Arecibo, Puerto Rico, a barrio

Europe

 * Miraflores, a neighbourhood near Lisbon, Portugal
 * Miraflores, a neighbourhood in Marbella, Spain
 * Miraflores de la Sierra, a town and municipality in the Community of Madrid, Spain
 * Miraflores, a neighbourhood and train station in Zaragoza, Spain

Mexico

 * Miraflores, Baja California Sur, a town in the municipality of Los Cabos, Mexico

South America

 * Miraflores, Catamarca, a village and municipality in Argentina
 * Miraflores, Chaco, a village and municipality in Argentina
 * Miraflores Private Neighborhood, in Garín, Greater Buenos Aires, Argentina
 * Miraflores, La Paz, in Bolivia
 * Miraflores (Chile), a residential suburb in Viña del Mar, Valparaíso Region, Chile
 * Miraflores, Guaviare, a town and municipality in Colombia
 * Miraflores, Boyacá, a town and municipality in Colombia
 * Miraflores (Ecuador), a residential quarter in Ambato, Ecuador
 * Miraflores, a city sector of Guayaquil, Ecuador
 * Miraflores District (disambiguation), several districts in Peru

United States

 * Miraflores, California, a community inside of Anaheim
 * Miraflores Park, Texas, the historic garden of Aureliano Urrutia that is now an annex of Brackenridge Park in San Antonio, Texas

Structures

 * Miraflores Charterhouse, a Carthusian monastery in Burgos, Spain
 * Miraflores (Panama), a lock in the Panama canal
 * Miraflores Palace, in Caracas, the official workplace of the President of Venezuela
 * Museo Miraflores, an archeological museum in Guatemala City

Other uses

 * Miraflores Altarpiece, a 15th-century triptych painted by Rogier van der Weyden
 * Battle of Miraflores, in the Miraflores District of Lima, Peru
 * CB Miraflores, a basketball club in Burgos, Spain

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Talk:Magnus Magnusson

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Surely he should be catgorised as a British TV presenter & writer? He has never been a presenter on Icelandic TV and does not write books in Icelandic. I was in Iceland in the 1990's when he also happened to be visiting, and saw him on an Icelandic TV new program being interviewed by an Icelandic presenter in English  which was subtitled. --JBellis 21:12, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * True, same with Roald Dahl. In spite of his name and his Norwegian parents, he grew up in England, so England is his homeland, even though he spent a lot of holidays in Norway and seemed to have a soft spot for it. --128.39.12.150 17:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

 * There is no evidence that he has ever become a naturalised British citizen JAJ 00:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * He grew up in Scotland and lived there for around 70 years. I don't think you need passport evidence to call him British.

His knighthood was an honorary one so he never did take British nationality.

 * Indeed. Despite leaving Iceland at the age of one, he was not naturalised as a United Kingdom national. Sam Blacketer 22:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

 * This may have something to do with the fact that prior to 1 July 2003, Icelandic nationality law revoked the citizenship of most Icelanders who acquired another one. JAJ 03:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

His knighthood was indeed honorary, which is why he could not be called "Sir Magnus Magnusson". However, he was entitled to "KBE" after his name, without the qualifier "honorary". I've made the correction. JackofOz 23:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Name
Could someone clarify to me please, how is his name spelt is it Magnus Magnusson or Magnús Magnússon. AxG  (talk)   (sign here)  22:13, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Magnús Magnússon is the proper Icelandic name he was given but he dropped the diacritics in the UK and that's how he will always be known there I believe. --Bjarki 05:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Then, of course, that's what should be in the Wikipedia article name. Gene Nygaard (talk) 16:33, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Magnús Magnússon would be fine as a title, but it was wrong to move this page to Magnús Magnússon (television presenter). If there is likely to be confusion, then a proper disambiguation page should be created. Deb 21:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Father's name
Surely his father's name was Sigursteinn - http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigursteinn - or are Icelandic names cited in the accusative?
 * You are right, it should be Sigursteinn which is the nominative case. --Bjarki 12:39, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Translation career
He was a noted Icelandic translator, and did many of the sagas, not to mention modern literature such as the novels of Halldor Laxness There should be more mention of this.

Also a notable writer upon Scottish subject matter.--MacRusgail (talk) 15:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Diacritics
The diacritical marks are entirely inappropriate. He never used them in any of his many published works, and the article even implies that they are appropriate for his children. They need to go (and they need to go from the title too). Sticks out like a sore thumb that his daughter Sally is exempt from the treatment, as she has a Wiki article and it's a BLP. Magnus and his other children get it because he's dead and they don't have articles here. It's not Wikipedia's task to impose some kind of authenticity on people.KD Tries Again (talk) 06:58, 13 December 2010 (UTC)KD Tries Again

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: move Dpmuk (talk) 12:09, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Magnús Magnússon → Magnus Magnusson — Having removed the diacritical marks from his name in the article, the title is no longer appropriate. I tried moving it myself, but because there is already a Magnus Magnusson page - which simply redirects here - it's not allowing me. KD Tries Again (talk) 17:31, 13 December 2010 (UTC)KD Tries Again

Support Move  WP:Article Titles, under Common Names states "Common usage in reliable sources is preferred to technically correct but rarer forms". The common form of this man's name does not have diacriticals. -- Doug (talk) 20:46, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment It might have made more sense when you changed the name in the article, to have left a reference to the fact that he was born Magnús Magnússon.  The change of article title would then hardly be controversial.  Skinsmoke (talk) 15:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * See Early Life section which deals with that point (although it lacks a citation). It's plausible that he was not born Magnús Magnússon but would have been given a patronymic. However we don't know that his parents put one name on his birth certificate and then started using a different one, and there's no basis for guessing that they did.KD Tries Again (talk) 16:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)KD Tries Again

 * Support as the usage of Penguin Books; he is not spelled with accents in English. As the article points out, Magnús Magnússon would not be his name in Icelandic either; that form is our invention. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:38, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Name
The following from ODNB confirms the obvious:
 * With this nationality and parentage he should have been called Magnús Sigursteinsson, but this was regarded as too difficult for non-Icelanders to pronounce in the family's newly adopted country of Scotland, where they moved when Magnus was nine months old. So, Magnús Magnússon he became, and remained, although he Anglicized the spelling by removing the accents. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 00:14, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

He should not be listed under Scottish.
He never took British, and therefore Scottish, citizenship so he cannot be listed as Scottish. Permanent Residence doesn't make you a citizen of that country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.165.152.170 (talk) 17:35, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Maknus with a 'k'
Did he honestly use this foreign pronunciation of Magnus? Varlaam (talk) 18:14, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Host of Mastermind succession box
I don't think his successor should be John Humphrys -after the BBC TV series stopped in 1997 it was on radio with Peter Snow then then o the Discovery Channel with Clive Anderson before the BBC revived it with Humphrys. Dunarc (talk) 20:34, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

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1995 in games

This page lists board and card games, wargames, miniatures games, and tabletop role-playing games published in 1995. For video games, see 1995 in video gaming.

Games released or invented in 1995
• Across Suez (second, updated version)

• Advanced Tracks to Telluride

• Battlelords

• Blood Wars Card Game

• BrikWars

• Cluedo Super Sleuth

• Dark Seed II

• Doomtrooper

• Dragon Dice

• El Grande

• Empire of the Rising Sun

• Everway

• The Great Dalmuti

• Guardians (card game) (collectible card game)

• Highlander: The Card Game

• Jenga Ultimate

• Legends of the Five Rings Collectible Card Game

• Medici

• Middle-earth Collectible Card Game

• Mortal Kombat Kard Game

• Murphy's World (role-playing game)

• Necromunda

• Nightbane (role-playing game)

• OverPower card game

• Quest for the Grail

• Rage (collectible card game)

• Redemption card game

• RoboRally - Armed and Dangerous

• The Settlers of Catan

• Shadowfist (collectible card game)

• Sim City The Card Game

• Simply Cosmic

• Star Wars Customizable Card Game

• Tempest of the Gods

• Towers in Time

• Ultimate Combat! (collectible card game)

• Vampire: The Eternal Struggle (earlier known as Jyhad)

• Warzone - A Fast & Furious Miniatures Battle Game

• WildStorms: The Expandable Super-Hero Card Game

• Wing Commander Collectible Trading Card Game

• Wyvern

Game awards given in 1995

 * Spiel des Jahres: The Settlers of Catan
 * Games: Sharp Shooters

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Darkened Room

Darkened Room is an 8-minute film directed by David Lynch. It first appeared on Lynch's website, DavidLynch.com, in 2002. It has subsequently been released on the DVD anthology Dynamic:01.

Premise
In the first half of the film, a Japanese woman shows us her apartment in Tokyo and muses on the amount of bananas produced worldwide. The woman then tells us that her friend next door is sad. In the second half, a blonde woman (Jordan Ladd) sits on a sofa and cries. Then a brunette woman (Cerina Vincent) enters and says cruel things to her, before threatening to tell her the truth. The film ends with a fade to black.

Cast

 * Jordan Ladd as Girl #1
 * Etsuko Shikata as Herself
 * Cerina Vincent as Girl #2

Production
The film was shot on digital video. In an introduction that appears on the Dynamic:01 DVD, Lynch calls the film "an experiment based on some idea", and says the film "was always some kind of tie in to bananas, information concerning bananas, so we can all learn some things as we enjoy the shows". Lynch then laughs.

Analysis
The film has been compared to other Lynch productions for the prominence of the act of crying and the presence of a lost girl.

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Vimioso

Vimioso is a municipality in the district of Bragança in the northern part of Portugal. The population in 2011 was 4,669, in an area of 481.59 km². It is recognised as having a significant number of Mirandese speakers.

In 1516, Vimioso was elevated to the administrative status of a village by order of King Manual I.

Parishes
The municipality is composed of 10 parishes:
 * Algoso, Campo de Víboras e Uva
 * Caçarelhos e Angueira
 * Argozelo
 * Carção
 * Matela
 * Pinelo
 * Santulhão
 * Vale de Frades e Avelanoso
 * Vilar Seco
 * Vimioso

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