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Mary Mack

"Mary Mack" ("Miss Mary Mack") is a clapping game of unknown origin. It is first attested in the book The Counting Out Rhymes of Children by Henry Carrington Bolton (1888), whose version was collected in West Chester, Pennsylvania. It is well known in various parts of the United States, Australia, Canada, United Kingdom and in New Zealand and has been called "the most common hand-clapping game in the English-speaking world".

In the game, two children stand or sit opposite to each other, and clap hands in time to a rhyming song.

The same song is also used as a skipping rope rhyme, although rarely so according to one source.

Rhyme
Various versions of the song exist; a common version goes;

 * Miss Mary Mack, Mack, Mack
 * All dressed in black, black, black
 * With silver buttons, buttons, buttons (or "butt'ns, butt'ns, butt'ns")
 * All down her back, back, back (or "Up and down her back, back, back")

 * She asked her mother, mother, mother
 * For 15 cents, cents, cents
 * To see the elephants, elephants, elephants (or "hippos, hippos, hippos")
 * Jump over the fence, fence, fence

 * They jumped so high, high, high
 * They reached the sky, sky, sky
 * And didn't (or never) come back, back, back (or come down, down, down)
 * Till the 4th of July ly ly

Alternate versions use "15 cents", "never came down" and end with repeating "July, July, July".

An alternate version, sung in Canada and England, includes the words:

 * She could not read, read, read
 * She could not write, write, write
 * But she could smoke, smoke, smoke
 * Her father’s pipe, pipe, pipe

An alternate version, sung in the American South:

 * Mary Mack,
 * Dressed in black,
 * Silver buttons all down her back.
 * She combed her hair
 * And broke the comb
 * She's gonna get a whoopin' when her Momma comes home
 * Gonna get a whoopin' when her Momma comes home

Clap
A common version of the accompanying clap is as follows: Another version: Another Version: Another Version: repeat
 * pat arms across chest: Arms across chest
 * pat thighs: Pat thighs
 * clap hands: Clap hands
 * clap right hands together: Clap right palms with partner
 * clap left hands together: Clap left palms with partner
 * clap both hand together
 * clap both palms with partner
 * &: One palm up, one palm down
 * 4: Clap both partners hands
 * &: Clap own hands
 * 1: Cross arms to chest
 * 2: Slap thighs
 * 3: Clap own hands
 * 4: Pat thighs
 * &: Clap hands
 * 1: Clap partners right hand
 * &: Clap hands
 * &: Clap partners left hand
 * &: Clap hands
 * 2: Clap both partners hands
 * &: Clap hands
 * &: One palm up, one palm down
 * 1: Clap both partners hands
 * &: Reverse hands
 * 2: Clap both partners hands
 * &: Clap own hands
 * 4: clap partners right hand
 * &: clap hands
 * 5: clap partners left hand
 * &: clap hands
 * 6: clap partners right hand
 * &: clap hands

Possible origins
The song originated in Virginia. Miss Mary Mack was a performer in Ephraim Williams’ circus in the 1880s; the song may be reference to her and the elephants in the show.

The first verse, the repetition, is also a riddle with the answer "coffin".

Early mentions of the part about the elephant do not include the part about Mary Mack.

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User talk:Christo34

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Mónica Núñez

Mónica Núñez (born 12 October 1976) is a Dominican former professional boxer who competed from 2000 to 2005. She challenged once for the IWBF super-middleweight title in 2004 and once for the WIBA middleweight title in 2005.

Núñez began her career by knocking out Claribel Ferreira in three rounds, on 9 June 2000, at Santo Domingo.

Three decision wins followed, including one over previously undefeated Marylin Hernandez, before she fought for the first time at the "Teo Cruz" coliseum, also in Santo Domingo. She knocked out Damaris Vizcaino in three rounds there, on 20 September 2002. Her next fight was also held there, as she beat Diana Garcia by a four-round decision on December 19 of the same year.

Following that victory, Núñez took the decision of leaving the Dominican Republic, probably looking for better fights and payoffs against better known opponents. She moved to the United States, settling in Irvington, New Jersey. New Jersey was a logical choice for Nunez when it came down to choosing a state where to live in the United States for her: both New Jersey and New York have a large group of Dominican people, which would mean good crowd backing for Nunez whenever she fought in the US, particularly around the New England area.

In her American debut, she lost, however, being handled her first professional defeat at the hands of Roselin Morales, who defeated Nunez by a four-round split decision on 23 October 2003, in Allentown, Pennsylvania. The Morales fight was, of course, Núñez's first fight abroad.

On 4 December, she knocked out Shadina Pennybaker in two rounds, also in Allentown.

Núñez travelled to Bermuda for her first fight of 2004, defeating Teresa Perozzi there by a six-round majority decision on 12 June.

After one more victory, Núñez was given her first world championship try, for the WIBF's world Super Middleweight championship. On 30 July, she fought Laila Ali in Louisville, Kentucky, being defeated by a ninth-round knockout by the world champion.

Offered a world title try at the Middleweight division, Núñez immediately accepted and she went down in weight to face the WIBA world champion Leatitia Robinson, on 11 February, 2005. She lost by knockout in the first round, in a fight held at Atlanta, Georgia.

Núñez announced her plans to keep boxing in the Super Middleweight division soon after the fight with Robinson was over.

On 17 July, Nunez lost to Ann Wolfe by a seventh-round knockout in Lula, Mississippi.

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Talk:William Crookes

This is a direct copy.
This site (http://www.chem.ox.ac.uk/icl/heyes/LanthAct/Biogs/Crookes.html) was copy-and-pasted into this Wikipedia article. Even though the originating site is listed, I think that that is still a severe no-no.

Crookes
Hi, can somebody make a disambig as follows:

thanks :Peter439 19:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * crookes
 * Crookes (district) of City Sheffield
 * William Crookes - English chemist and physicist

 * The page for Crookes in Sheffield contains a pointer to William the scientist. DFH 20:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

discoverer of true electron direction
aside from plagiarism, this guy is responsible for the discovery and proof of the true electron flow (- to +) rather than the conventional flow (+ to -) assumed by Benjamin Franklin. source: http://www.3rd1000.com/history/electrons.htm search on "William Crookes" Mdoc7 (talk) 23:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Author of 'The Wheat Problem'
Sir William Crookes gave an address to the British Association in Bristol (1898). This can be considered as based deeply in Malthusian theory of population pressures. The address was titled The Wheat Problem, and subsequent publications in written form have been produced. 16 March 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.209.6.41 (talk) 12:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Cromwell F. Varley
Various sources state that it was Varley who influenced Crookes to originally look into spiritualism after his son had died. Trevor H. Hall writes "Mr. Cromwell F. Varley, F.R.S., the electrical engineer, was a convinced spiritualist who had known Crookes since the death of Philip Crookes in 1867. According to Crookes's biographer, it was Varley who persuaded Crookes to try and get into communication with his dead brother by means of spiritualism." From Hall's The Spiritualists: The Story of Florence Cook and William Crookes. p. 47. I put other sources that document this on the article. Hall's reference to "Crookes' biographer" was Edmund Edward Fournier d'Albe, he wrote the first biography of Crookes in 1923. It is a very useful balanced biography, I added it in the further reading section. So much more can be added to the article but I don't have the time to do this. The spiritualism section also should not take up too much of the article. Would be nice if Crookes' scientific work could also be expanded. The most recent biography of Crookes is by William Hodson Brock and this book contains a goldmine of information. Goblin Face (talk) 16:35, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Hinshelwood source
On Dec 18, 2006, User:Astrochemist left a meta-note in the external links section. It said "much of the article is derived from the source:
 * Hinshelwood, Cyril Norman, "William Crookes, A Victorian man of science". 1927.

Given how much time has passed and introduction of new material and sources.. and uncertainty over what material is from this source, I have removed that notice, but moved the source from the External links to the References section. -- Green  C  14:48, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

(Anonymous user adding:)I was unable to locate this book or even verify its existence (worldcat, googlebooks, ). I guess it's an article? Then it should be quoted correctly.

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About Me
I am Ismael Peña-López, researcher, lecturer, speaker on the Information Society, ICT4D and the Digital Divide. Please visit my personal research portal to know more about me.

I am an inclusionist.

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Scientific formalism

Scientific formalism is a family of approaches to the presentation of science. It is viewed as an important part of the scientific method, especially in the physical sciences.

Levels of formalism
There are multiple levels of scientific formalism possible. At the lowest level, scientific formalism deals with the symbolic manner in which the information is presented. To achieve formalism in a scientific theory at this level, one starts with a well defined set of axioms, and from this follows a formal system.

However, at a higher level, scientific formalism also involves consideration of the axioms themselves. These can be viewed as questions of ontology. For example, one can, at the lower level of formalism, define a property called 'existence'. However, at the higher level, the question of whether an electron exists in the same sense that a bacterium exists still needs to be resolved.

Some actual formal theories on facts have been proposed.

In modern physics
The scientific climate of the twentieth century revived these questions. From about the time of Isaac Newton to that of James Clerk Maxwell they had been dormant, in the sense that the physical sciences could rely on the status of the real numbers as a description of the continuum, and an agnostic view of atoms and their structure. Quantum mechanics, the dominant physical theory after about 1925, was formulated in a way which raised questions of both types.

In the Newtonian framework there was indeed a degree of comfort in the answers one could give. Consider for example the question of whether the Earth really goes round the Sun. In a frame of reference adapted to calculating the Earth's orbit, this is a mathematical but also tautological statement. Newtonian mechanics can answer the question, whether it is not equally the case that the Sun goes round the Earth, as it indeed appears to Earth-based astronomers. In Newton's theory there is a basic, fixed frame of reference that is inertial. The 'correct answer' is that the point of view of an observer in an inertial frame of reference is privileged: other observers see artifacts of their acceleration relative to an inertial frame (the inertial forces). Before Newton, Galileo would draw the consequences, from the Copernican heliocentric model. He was, however, constrained to call his work (in effect) scientific formalism, under the old 'description' saving the phenomena. To avoid going against authority, the elliptic orbits of the heliocentric model could be labelled as a more convenient device for calculations, rather than an actual description of reality.

In general relativity, Newton's inertial frames are no longer privileged. In quantum mechanics, Paul Dirac argued that physical models were not there to provide semantic constructs allowing us to understand microscopic physics in language comparable to that we use on the familiar scale of everyday objects. His attitude, adopted by many theoretical physicists, is that a good model is judged by our capacity to use it to calculate physical quantities that can be tested experimentally. Dirac's view is close to what Bas van Fraassen calls constructive empiricism.

Duhem
A physicist who took the issues involved seriously was Pierre Duhem, writing at the beginning of the twentieth century. He wrote an extended analysis of the approach he saw as characteristically British, in requiring field theories of theoretical physics to have a mechanical-physical interpretation. That was an accurate characterisation of what Dirac (himself British) would later argue against. The national characteristics specified by Duhem do not need to be taken too seriously, since he also claimed that the use of abstract algebra, namely quaternions, was also characteristically British (as opposed to French or German); as if the use of classical analysis methods alone was important one way or the other.

Duhem also wrote on saving the phenomena. In addition to the Copernican Revolution debate of "saving the phenomena" (Greek: σῴζειν τὰ φαινόμενα, sozein ta phainomena ) versus offering explanations that inspired Duhem was Thomas Aquinas, who wrote, regarding eccentrics and epicycles, that

"Reason may be employed in two ways to establish a point: firstly, for the purpose of furnishing sufficient proof of some principle [...]. Reason is employed in another way, not as furnishing a sufficient proof of a principle, but as confirming an already established principle, by showing the congruity of its results, as in astronomy the theory of eccentrics and epicycles is considered as established, because thereby the sensible appearances of the heavenly movements can be explained (possunt salvari apparentia sensibilia); not, however, as if this proof were sufficient, forasmuch as some other theory might explain them. [...]"

The idea that a physical interpretation—in common language or classical ideas and physical entities, though of or examined in an ontological or quasi-ontological sense—of a phenomenon in physics is not an ultimate or necessary condition for its understanding or validity, also appears in modern structural realist views on science.

Bellarmine
Robert Bellarmine wrote to heliocentrist Paolo Antonio Foscarini: "Nor is it the same to demonstrate that by assuming the sun to be at the center and the earth in heaven one can save the appearances, and to demonstrate that in truth the sun is at the center and the earth in heaven; for I believe the first demonstration may be available, but I have very great doubts about the second…"

Modern physicist Pierre Duhem "suggests that in one respect, at least, Bellarmine had shown himself a better scientist than Galileo by disallowing the possibility of a 'strict proof of the earth's motion,' on the grounds that an astronomical theory merely 'saves the appearances' without necessarily revealing what 'really happens.'"

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John Miley

John Miley (25 December 1813–13 December 1895) was an American Methodist Episcopal minister and theologian, who was one of the major Methodist theological voices of the 19th century.

Early life
Miley was born the 25 December 1813 on a farm near Hamilton, Butler County, Ohio. Miley graduated from Augusta College where he received A.B. in 1834 and an A.M. in 1837. During his college life he was influenced by three professors Joseph Tomlinson, Joseph Trimble, and Henry Bascom.

Career
In 1838, Miley entered the church's ministry through the Ohio Conference. From 1838 to 1852, he served different churches in Ohio. In 1852 he transferred to the New York East Conference. In 1866 he transferred to the New York Conference. In 1859, the Ohio Wesleyan University conferred an honorary Doctor of Divinity degree on him.

From 1852 to 1873, he served churches in New York and Connecticut. As a Methodist pastor, he had held nineteen different pastoral appointments. In 1872, he joined a commission organized by the general conference to develop a code of ecclesiastical law for the Methodist Episcopal Church.

Beginning in 1873, he served as chair of systematic theology at Drew University in Madison, NJ, after his brother-in-law, Randolph Sinks Foster, left the seat to become a bishop. Miley was one of "the Great Five" revered professors who led Drew for decades, along with Henry Anson Buttz, George Crooks, James Strong, and Samuel F. Upham.

He was the author of Systematic Theology (1892), a two-volume work which served as a key text for Methodist seminarians for nearly thirty years. He also authored The Atonement in Christ (1879), in which he demonstrated what he believed were severe Biblical and theological problems with commonly held theories on the doctrine of the atonement of Christ such as the penal substitution and the moral example.

Theology
Miley was a systematic theologian in the Wesleyan tradition. He had Arminian soteriological views. He developed a strong governmental theory of atonement based theology heavily reliant on the work of Hugo Grotius. Thus, for him, the atonement of Christ is a satisfaction for sins by substitution, but not a satisfaction by penal substitution. The atonement of Christ is universal, but the forgiveness of sins is conditional to the faith. Moreover, the substitution of Christ is in suffering, not in penalty.

Death
Miley died the 13 December 1895.

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Thiruvalla

Thiruvalla, also spelled Tiruvalla, is a municipality in Pathanamthitta district, Kerala, India. It is also the headquarters of the Thiruvalla taluk. The town is spread over an area of 27.15 km2 and has a population of 52,883, down from 56,837 in 2001. It lies on the northern banks of the Manimala River, in a land-locked region surrounded by irrigating canals and rivers. It is the largest town in the district, and is one of the financial, educational,healthcare, cultural, and commercial centres of central Travancore.

Thiruvalla is also known as the "Town of Non-Resident Indians", as a large portion of its inhabitants form a part of the Malayali diaspora. Thiruvalla is also branded as "Aarogya Nagari", primarily due to its well-developed healthcare infrastructure and the presence of several prominent hospitals and medical institutions. Though Thiruvalla struggles with an aging and declining population and experiences a high emigration rate, in recent years the town has experienced growth in its economy and urban revitalisation.

Etymology
There are two theories as to the origin of the name "Thiruvalla".

According to tradition, the name Thiruvalla comes from the word "Valla Vaay", named after the river Manimala which used to be known as Vallayār. Before the development of proper roads, Thiruvalla developed at the mouth of the Vallayār, and connected various places through waterways, and hence was known as Valla vāy(with the word vāy meaning 'mouth of a river' in old Malayalam). Later the Malayalam Prefix "Thiru" (used to signify something revered) was added, and thus became "Thiruvalla".

The second theory comes from the 10th-century Sanskrit work "śrīvallabha kṣētra māhātmyaṁ" (श्रीवल्लभ क्षेत्र माहात्म्यम्). It states that the name comes from one of the major temples in the town- the Sreevallabha Temple. The name Thiruvalla hence comes from the word "śrīvallabhapuraṁ", meaning "the town of Vallabha".

Ancient period
There is plenty of evidence to suggest that the area had been inhabited since 500 BCE, although an organized settlement was only founded around 800 CE. The present-day areas of Niranam, and Kadapra on the western part of Thiruvalla were submerged under the sea before then. It is one of the 64 ancient brahmana graamams.

Stone axes have been reported from Thiruvalla, belonging to Neolithic Age. Thiruvalla has many Neolithic remains and got civilized earlier. The Aryan culture presented Thiruvalla as one of the 64 Brahmin settlements of Kerala, and one of the important too. Ptolemy mentions the Baris river, the present "Pamba" river.

Thiruvalla was also an important commercial centre with the Niranam port in olden days, which is described by Pliny as "Nelcynda". At this light, the "Bacare" could have been modern "Purakkad". The fact that modern western Thiruvalla contains the coastal kind of sand, and several seashells in the soil despite being landlocked proves that prior to the reclamation of Kuttanad from sea, Niranam and the whole western Thiruvalla could have been a coastal area.

The Growth to Feudalism
Up to the beginning of the 10th century CE, Ays were the dominant powers in Kerala. The Ay kings ruled from Thiruvalla in the North to Nagercoil in the South. Ptolemy mentions this as from Baris (Pamba River) to Cape Comorin "Aioi" (Kanyakumari). By 12th century, we get the picture from the Thiruvalla copper plates, which are voluminous records that centre around the social life around the temple. The society The Thiruvalla temple had a large Vedic learning school (actually comparable to modern university) ("Thiruvalla salai"), which was one of the foremost learning centres in Kerala. The Thiruvalla salai was one of the richest among the Vedic schools of Kerala, and according to the copper plates, the pupils of the school were fed with 350 nazhis of paddy every day, which shows the vastness of its student population. Thiruvalla held a very eminent position among the spiritual and educational centres in ancient times. The Sri Vallabha Temple was one of the wealthiest temples of ancient Kerala, as is evident from the inscriptions in the plates. The part of the temple land required to 'feed the Brahmins' required 2.1 million litres of rice seeds, and for the "maintenance of the eternal lamps" required more than 340,000 litres of paddy seed capacity. Due to the length, the antiquity and the nature of the language, Thiruvalla copper plates form the "First book in Malayalam", according to Prof. Elamkulam.

Early Modern period
The rulers of Thiruvalla now belonged to the Thekkumkoor Dynasty, which had one of its headquarters at Idathil near Kaavil Temple. Idathil (Vempolinadu Edathil Karthavu) was the family name of the Thekkumkoor kings. Today's Paliakara Palace is a branch of Lakshmipuram Palace of Changanacherry, which is a branch of Alikottu Kovilakam of Pazhancherry in Malabar. Similarly, Nedumpuram Palace is a branch of Mavelikkara Palace is an heir to the Valluvanad tradition of South Malabar.

The Thekkumkoor kings lost their control in the course of time and Vilakkili (വിലക്കിലി) Nampoothiris were rulers in 1752–53 when Anizham Thirunal Marthanda Varma, the king of Travancore, seized it in a bloody battle in which the ruler was killed, though some dispute it, saying the surrender was peaceful as the Namboothiris were not naive to challenge the mighty army of Ramayyan, the shrewd and sadistic Dalava (ദളവ)- head of administration and advisor – of Travancore.

Geography and climate
Thiruvalla lies at an altitude of 14 meters above sea level, along the north bank of the Manimala river. Thiruvalla is criss-crossed by many natural canals (known as "thodu" in Malayalam) like Chanthathodu and Manippuzha.

Thiruvalla and its adjacent areas has a great diversity in soil types due to its position between the low-lying Kuttanad region and the Midlands. The downtown area has riverine alluvial soil, the eastern parts (classified under the "Southern Midlands" agro-ecological zone) have a laterite loam, and the western parts near Niranam (classified under the Kuttanad agro-ecological zone) have sandy soil resembling that of beaches. The Niranam region has a sandy-type soil as before the reclamation of Kuttanad from the Vembanad Lagoon the area originally was situated on its shores. The Upper Kuttanad region also has the "Karappadam" type of soil. This soil resembles clay loam in texture, has high organic matter content, and is found in areas about 1–2 m above sea level.

Thiruvalla has a tropical monsoon climate. There is significant rainfall in most months of the year. The short dry season has little effect on the overall climate. The Köppen-Geiger climate classification is Am. The temperature here averages 27.3 °C. In a year, the average rainfall is 3298 mm.

At an average temperature of 29.0 °C, April is the hottest month of the year. July has the lowest average temperature of the year. It is 26.4 °C. Between the driest and wettest months, the difference in precipitation is 574 mm. Precipitation is the lowest in January, with an average of 22 mm. With an average of 596 mm, the most precipitation falls in June.

Due to its proximity to the equator, Thiruvalla has very little variation in average temperature. During the year, the average temperatures vary by 2.6 °C.

Thiruvalla is known for its pleasant and welcoming weather. South West Monsoon winds bring heavy showers to Thiruvalla in the months of August for a couple of months. The best time to visit this historical town is after the rains as the healthy showers of monsoon leave this place lush green and pristine.

Demographics
As per the 2011 Indian census, Thiruvalla has a population of 52,883 and a population density of 1,948 PD/km2. Of this, 48% are males and 52% are female. 7.48% of the population is under 6 years of age. Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes constitute 8.49% and 0.45% of the population respectively. The total literacy rate was 97.64% (98.05% for males and 97.28% for females), which is higher than the state average of 94% and the national average of 74.04%.

Religion
According to the 2011 census, Christians are the plurality with 48% of the population adhering to the religion. The majority of these Christians belong to the St. Thomas Christian community and their respective Orthodox Churches. Hindus form a significant minority, constituting 46% of the population. Muslims constitute 5% of the population.

Thiruvalla is home to the Sree Vallabha Temple which is the only one of its kind in the State to have Kathakali performed as a ritual offering every night.

Politics
The current Chairperson of the Municipality is Cherian Polachirackal and the vice-chairman is Sreerenjini S Pillai for 2018–2020.

Thiruvalla's assembly constituency is part of the newly formed Pathanamthitta (Lok Sabha constituency). The current MLA is Adv. Mathew T Thomas. Current MP Pathanamthitta (Lok Sabha constituency) is Anto Antony.

Sports
The popular sports in Thiruvalla are football and cricket. The football history of Thiruvalla can be traced back to the legendary footballer from Thiruvalla, Thomas Varghes, called "Tiruvalla Pappan". He represented India in the London Olympics of 1948, and is described as one of the best defenders of 40's – 50's from India. Today, Thiruvalla hosts many district and state-level football and cricket tournaments. There is a stadium in Thiruvalla maintained by the Thiruvalla Municipal Council. This is the venue for most of the tournaments. It is also called "Prithi stadium".

Indoor Cricket
The Kerala Cricket Association has set up the indoor cricket stadium complex in Thiruvalla, with 24-7 practising facilities. The facility is adjacent to the Thiruvalla Municipal stadium and is constructed on 8000 square feet, on 50 cents of land. The facility also houses a library, multi-gym, board room, KCA district office, and a conference hall. Specially made natural grass wicket is the specialty of the practicing nets in the courtyard. This indoor cricket facility is perhaps, the first of its kind in the state.

Food and other cultural activities
Thiruvalla hosts cultural events including flower shows and food fests.

Notable persons

 * Anna Rajam Malhotra, Indian Administrative Service officer
 * Thenmadom Varghese, Indian professional footballer
 * Poykayil Yohannan, social activist, poet
 * Vennikkulam Gopala Kurup, poet
 * Abraham Kovoor, hypnotherapist and rationalist
 * Abu Abraham, cartoonist
 * Dr. M.M. Thomas, former Governor of Nagaland
 * Baselios MarThoma Didymos I, Malankara Metropolitan and Catholicos of Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
 * Babu Thiruvalla, movie director and producer
 * Blessy, movie director
 * C. K. Ra, artist
 * C.P. Mathen, banker and founder of the Quilon Bank
 * C J Kuttappan, folklore artist
 * Col. Jojan Thomas, military officer
 * John Abraham, movie director
 * K. G. George, movie director
 * Kakkanadan, novelist and writer
 * Mar Athanasius Yohan I Metropolitan (formerly Dr K.P. Yohannan Metropolitan), Metropolitan Bishop of Believers Eastern Church
 * Mathew T. Thomas, politician
 * M. G. Soman, movie actor
 * Nayanthara (Diana Mariam Kurian), movie actress
 * Shalini, actress
 * Kaveri, movie actress
 * Meera Jasmine (Jasmine Mary Joseph), movie actress
 * Nadiya Moythu, movie actress
 * Parvathy Jayaram (Ashwathy Kurup), movie actress
 * Oormila Unni (actress), movie actress
 * Sreeja Chandran, actress
 * Kaviyoor Ponnamma, actress
 * Kaviyoor Sivaprasad, film director
 * Sidhartha Siva, actor, director
 * Kailash, movie actor
 * Rajeev Pillai, movie actor
 * Sajeev John, physicist
 * Vishnu Vinod, cricketer

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Last Rites of Jeff Myrtlebank (The Twilight Zone)

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was KEEP. dbenbenn | talk 02:08, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The_Last_Rites_of_Jeff_Myrtlebank_%28The_Twilight_Zone%29
Episode summary. Radiant! 13:09, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC) Withdrawn. Radiant! 15:45, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - needs expansion, but no less worthy of an article than all the Star Trek, Doctor Who and Twilight Zone episode articles already on Wikipedia. 23skidoo 16:32, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * They are? Oh, I was unaware of that. In that case, we should keep it. Radiant! 18:08, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. Some Wikipedians have been making articles on each Twilight Zone episode and then putting them on the List of The Twilight Zone episodes. Zzyzx11 19:48, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: The original The Twilight Zone had a rather tremendous influence, which is what justifies its individual episodes getting articles when another series -- like the various TZ remakes -- might not be worthy of that much individual detail.  IMHO.  -- Antaeus Feldspar 23:01, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, expand. Megan1967 02:43, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Broadway

Requested move
Broadway → Broadway theatre – Broadway currently redirects to Broadway (disambiguation). There are a large number of links to Broadway, and the vast majority of them appear to be about Broadway theatre. Currently, Broadway theatre has about 2000 articles linking to it, whereas Broadway (New York City), the second most common meaning of the word, has about 200 articles. It seems to me that because the primary meaning of Broadway is Broadway theatre, the article should redirect there with a disambiguation link at the top --Bill 20:29, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Voting

 * Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~

 * Oppose - hundreds of links to other uses is significant. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 20:42, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppoes - not a good idea - there are other meanings of the term. I have been disamb'ing a lot of them, and with some help, it won't take long. --rogerd 17:38, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Not moved. — Nightstallion (?) 07:59, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

revert of move to Broadway (disambiguation)
The following conversation was copied from User talk:Larry V and User talk:Rogerd

I disagree with your move of Broadway to Broadway (disambiguation). A couple of months ago, I spent a lot of time disambiguating Broadway, and I found that by far, the vast majority of links to Broadway (> 80%, would be my guess) needed to be redirected to Broadway theatre. There aren't very many now, since I fixed them all recently. --rogerd 01:39, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sure that you are correct in that most links to Broadway refer instead to Broadway theatre. However, it doesn't make very much sense to have "Broadway" redirect to "Broadway theatre." Broadway theatre is an entity that, while intricately interwoven with Broadway the street, is nevertheless distinct from that street. Also, the fact that most "Broadway"s have to be redirected to the theatre article in and of itself indicates that, as a place/street/etc., most references (if not errant Wikilinks) to "Broadway" are to the New York City street, which, naturally, is the seat of Broadway theatre. References to Broadway theatre should point to that article (which you yourself took care of); any references to simply "Broadway," however, should point to the NYC street, seeing as how it is very unlikely that the intended article would be that about Broadway in New South Wales, or Broadway in New Jersey. —Larry V (talk) 03:39, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * My point is that (lazy) editors will insert references to Broadway, like "Matthew Broderick appeared on Broadway in The Producers" when clearly they didn't mean to reference the street.  I know, I fixed hundreds of these.  With your change, it will be very difficult to find these errant edits and point them to the right place.  By having them go to a disambiguation page, then it will easier (especially of you use WP:POP) to correct them.  With your change, they will go to the NYC street, making it necessary to go through the correct references to the NYC street to find the errant links.  --rogerd 03:48, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, I guess I see your point. You're probably right about those lazy editors. I would change it back … but the redirect is getting in the way. Seeing as how you're the administrator between us two, I think you'll have to do it. =) —Larry V (talk) 03:54, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Broadway Theatre
The theatre, by that name is very different from the theatre in general in NYC being referred to as Broadway theatre... There should be an article on this and the guidelines do provide for a red link that needs an article. Doc 01:46, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Reorganization
I separated Broadway theater from articles about theaters named Broadway, since they're not really in the same categories. Also, I moved the physical theaters below the streets, since the theaters are named after the street. --Mosmof (talk) 12:35, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Streets
Should we mention somewhere in the article that Broadway is a common name for streets in the United States? Purplebackpack89 (talk) 18:27, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The entymology of Broadway is already highlighted via the link to Broadway at the top of the article. FWIW, the origin is, unsurprisingly for an English compound word, English rather than American. It means simply "wide road". Andrew Oakley (talk) 11:25, 3 November 2009 (UTC) (near Broadway, Worcestershire, England)
 * I'm having second thoughts. It probably could do with a very short header stating how common the name is, and why. I'll have a go. Andrew Oakley (talk) 11:23, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Broadway, London - why in places category ?
Apparently it is a street in London so should be among other streets In the British Isles.
 * Right! that's it. I'm moving it. --Trombek Bombek (talk) 17:25, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Broadway (Everett)
I added Broadway in Everett. Google Maps Proof --97.113.175.151 (talk) 16:10, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Existence is not the only criteria for an entry. An existing Wikipedia article needs to at least mention the usage. older ≠ wiser 18:22, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * See this page: Link and also this page: Link--97.113.175.151 (talk) 16:03, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

White space
not sure what you're trying to do here. In desktop view adding Clear has introduced unnecessary white space. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:26, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't get it. I've tested at various zooms and sizes on my 23 inch and it gives just the opposite. And again after seeing this post. Pre "clear" have to scroll down two screens past the long ToC before seeing the content. When I put the "clear" it gives a small space beside the Wiktionary box but the content starts showing beside the ToC. Now I'm worried. Maybe my user page isn't as clean and tight on other screens as it looks on mine. Slight Smile 14:22, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * here's my view:

 * I haven't seen used below the TOC on any other disambiguation pages. Your user page looks fine, by the way! Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:13, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * This is what I see without the Clear.
 * Sorry. Problem with the image. Trust me, for some readers/users the article's layout is unacceptable the way it is. Slight Smile 17:44, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

 * I've seen disambiguation pages where someone other than myself had added a Clear so I'm not the only one. I think that a small white space beside the Wiktionary box that a Clear creates for some (or many) readers/users is a reasonable trade off for those who would otherwise have to look and scroll through that big ugly white space. I won't argue with this one but I will fix disambiguation pages as I encounter them as a reader. Btw I found it helpful that you checked my user page, thank you. Slight Smile 14:45, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Slightsmile, do you by chance use Internet Explorer? The behavior you describe sounds like an IE aberration -- I seem to recall some discussions of this before (don't recall where, perhaps WP:VPT) and the upshot was that IE didn't render html per standards. Using clear is a sort of kludge that fixes it for IE. Standards-compliant browsers don't have any problems with the display. older ≠ wiser 18:28, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes. But regardless that small spacing Clear gives beside the Wiktionary box isn't really bad compared to what IE readers have to look at. Slight Smile 19:53, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, I wasn't arguing not to use clear. Just trying to give some context. older ≠ wiser 20:34, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, I wasn't sure. That was actually helpful, thank you. I suspected it might have been something like that. Slight Smile 20:39, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * In the spirit of Help:Whitespace (Avoid "fixing" white space issues which are peculiar to your combination of screen/window and font sizes, choice of browser, image settings, and so on. Check with other settings or systems, or ask other editors to do so.), I've asked for expert help at the helpdesk and a couple of other places. Regards, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:36, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I have used Template:Stack.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Broadway&diff=887059842&oldid=886907111] PrimeHunter (talk) 09:48, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Too easy. Thank you. Slight Smile 13:24, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

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Radford Semele

Radford Semele is a village and civil parish in Warwickshire, England, situated close to the Regency spa town of Leamington Spa. According to the 2001 Census, Radford Semele parish has a population of 2,448, according to 2021 census. It lies on the A425 between Leamington (2.5 miles to the west) and Southam (6 miles to the southeast). It has a 16th-century pub with a priest hole. The local school is the Radford Semele Church of England School. This is a primary school and most senior pupils go to school in either Southam, Leamington Spa or Warwick which are close by. As well as the parish church of St Nicholas the village also has a second church built in 1874, the Radford Semele Baptist Church.

History
A poorly preserved Roman villa was excavated in 1974 near Pounce Hill Farm, approximately 1.5 km south of the village. The village is named after a family from Saint-Pierre-de-Semilly in Normandy - they were lords of the manor in around 1120. The old Weedon to Leamington Spa line used to run through the village but in the late 1960s the line was closed to passengers. The site of where the old line used to be is now a new cycleway as part of The National Cycle Network.

The village has a 16th-century pub called The White Lion situated on the main road running through the village. On 2 February 2006 the pub caught alight, ruining the thatched roof and interior. As of January 2011 the pub is open again.

St Nicholas Church
St Nicholas Church, a Grade II listed building, that caught fire on 16 March 2008 and all that remained was the tower and shell of the building. The fire was initially not considered suspicious; however, there is evidence that there was a break-in on the night of the fire, and it is believed to have been arson following failed attempts at several other churches nearby. The church has since been restored and was reopened on 15 May 2013.

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User talk:ObsidianOrder

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Vfd
Not sure what you'll vote on this, but if you're interested, bark at this one: Votes for deletion/WikiProject Wikipedians for Decency--MONGO 10:39, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

 * Just want to make a point about your vote (and don't want to clutter the already over-cluttered voting page). I don't think most of us voting to delete this project have any interest in "censoring" these people. They are free to say whatever they like on their user pages. However, creating a WikiProject aimed at imposing a point of view about the nature of morality or decency is against site policy. A VFD would be raised for any WikiProject of the sort, regardless of their moral standpoint (e.g. they might want to remove all obscene photos of women, defined as those that show women without traditional head-scarves).

 * The project specifically states that this is their aim, and that any other concerns (e.g. legal implications in Florida) are secondary. No, this is not censorship, this is enforcement of Wikipedia rules and guidelines. If censorship is your concern, you should probably vote userify. Thanks for contributing, and good editing to you! -Harmil 13:31, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism
BYT put my article on this informative book up for VfD,I'd be honored if you'd take a look at the article and its VfD. Thanks. User:Klonimus/AINB Klonimus 07:43, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Dispute advice needed
I have had an entry on Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda regarding Able Danger deleted several times by people claiming it is not relevant to the article. This is hogwash, of course. I have expanded the entry over time to make it more clear and show the relevance to the article. Still it is deleted. Now they are saying I should not violate the 3RR. I even got a message from an administrator about it on my User:Talk page. I responded to the administrator and am waiting to hear back. In the meantime, I thought you might take a look at the entry and the Talk page that discusses Able Danger (in more than one place). I would appreciate hearing your point of view.RonCram 01:27, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

If you got a minute
If you got a minute can you take a look. Thanks Categories for deletion. nobs 01:40, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Bioelectromagnetics
Hi, I saw some of the work you've been doing at some of the bioelectromagnetism and EMF hazard pages, and was wondering if you could take a look at bioelectromagnetics and possibly help me turn it into a real article? You seem to have some wikipedia experience as well as a grasp of some of the non-thermal interaction issues. Thanks in advance, Potatophysics 11:05, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Stochastic electrodynamics
Hey, thanks for creating that awesome bibliography! I've been intending to do some research on SED for sometime; you've made it all the more easier. --Intangir 04:39, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

3rr on CF
You've broken the 3RR on cold fusion. Please revert yourself quickly or get reported. William M. Connolley 16:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC).

 * Ok, done. I think you're way out of line removing the disputed tag, though.  Can we at least discuss this?  ObsidianOrder 16:13, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

cold fusion
The cold fusion debate has gotten beyond my expertise, so I really can't contribute to it - but I will say that getting Edmund Storms, who has long been a very public advocate of cold-fusion claims, seems a poor way to go about it, any more than getting Bob Park to write it would be! - DavidWBrooks 21:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I think it would be an excellent idea to get Bob Park to contribute to the cold fusion article. I would be thrilled to see that. --JedRothwell 20:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Which CF article is the manuscript?
You have two versions of your proposed article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion/tmp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ObsidianOrder/Cold_fusion

Which is current? Despite my avowed intention not to contribute to this process, I have noticed some minor errors and I feel compelled to fix them.

--JedRothwell 20:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Islamofascism redirect again
Hey... I don’t know if you have any interest in this subject anymore, but there is yet another attempt to bury the Islamofascism page elsewhere. If you’re interested, the debate is here: [] IronDuke 19:14, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Category talk:To do, by priority
(I answered your question on this page.) EdGl 03:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Islamism page
O.O., this anonymous user is engaging in taqiyya. There is no reason to apologize for misconstruing him. His hardly-hidden agenda is that Islam mandates Islamism, and that others are being intolerant of Muslims if they reject the imposition of Sharia. Please ignore his threats, as you've done nothing wrong.Timothy Usher 09:31, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Michael Scheuer page
Please take a look at recent edits on the Michael Scheuer page. There are some interesting quotes there that certain editors do not want readers to know about. RonCram 13:19, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

theoretical explanations for low energy nuclear reactions
OO, you probably are much more qualified than me to fill the theory section of that article. Would you be kind enough to take a chance ? Pcarbonn 10:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

RfC
There is an Rfc on Csloat. Requests for comment/Commodore Sloat. Torturous Devastating Cudgel 21:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda
Please review the rewrite I did on Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda and help moderate the controversy. As you know, this is a controversial article that has been the subject of many edit wars. Recently translated Operation Iraqi Freedom documents have made the non-official view that Saddam and Osama did have a cooperative relationship much more persuasive. In fact, former Democrat Senator and 9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey now believes they did cooperate, showing this is a tenable position. The older version of the article is clearly not NPOV as it treated the non-official version as if its adherents were members of the flat earth society. I believe the rewrite is much more readable now and the narrative is more connected. I'm certain it has it faults but it seems to be a better foundation to work from than the older version. Please take a look and make any comments you like on the Talk page. Thanks! RonCram 05:49, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Message from Bernard Haisch
I sent the following to Wikipedia "management" and don't know whether this will result in any assistance.

The Wikipedia article on "Stochastic Electrodynamics" has been converted by a Chris Hillman into primarily an attack on myself and my colleague Prof. Alfonso Rueda. The field of Stochastic Electrodynamcis itself, which has had 40 years of development by numerous physicists, is hardly discusssed at all. The current version is littered with factual errors, misattributions and NPOV violations.

We need to involve a knowledgeable neutral editor, and it would be best to remove the article until this can be done.

Since you, ObsidianOrder, have made numerous excellent comments and arguments on the SED Talk, I would just like to urge you to translate some of these into edits of the SED page. It looks to me like Christine Hillman has been getting a free ride in spite of numerous problems with what she has written. I am tryiing to avoid stepping in directly myself in deference to WP policy.Haisch 22:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

2006 Page O Fun
I'm not sure that was such a great solution either. I had posted on Deenoe's page about it.--Paraphelion 05:47, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it's done.. it was easier than I thought.--Paraphelion 06:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Hillman/Dig
Hi, Obsidian, I just noticed your comment on these elsewhere, so no doubt you will want to participate in this MfD. I actually agree with your concern. Did you notice that the subpages under MfD were created in connection with my on-going attempt to formulate and propose policies governing things like wikishilling and digging? I feel it is hard to do the former without being able to present evidence that wikishilling is a problem. As for the latter, please see my (still unfinished) essay describing my preliminary thoughts about the problems posed by digging at User:Hillman/Digging (but to avoid fragmenting discussion, please comment on that in my user talk page or in the MfD as appropriate). ---CH 00:20, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Breaching Experiment
I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your rational voice in the MfD. I have no idea why Hillman is carrying on about me the way he/she/it is, but your suggestion of a "breaching experiment" is an interesting one and what I was alluding to as an "experiment in social psychology" in my own comments in the MfD, but didn't know the term. What I find really curious is why Hillman hasn't been blocked yet. His response to David on his own talk page is another clear violation of WP:STALK. He has done the same thing on several other talk pages, btw. Anyhow, I did want to let you know how nice it was to hear some productive comments rising above all the noise. DrL 14:56, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi disagreeer!
There is another RFAr in statu nascendi at Requests_for_arbitration. On its merits alone it probably will not be accepted. You may want to argue about inclusion in Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience. But I sincerely can't make prophecies what will happen at RfAr with such an mother-of-all-RfAr.

On the other hand, I pretty much assume, we can constructively proceed at Cold fusion, once some reasonable, experienced non-mainstreamers arrive, e.g. you.

I also invite you to check my attempt for a united position statement of the mainstreamers. Ironically none of the mainstreamers have commented so far, perhaps I'm too soft?

Pjacobi 20:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Merge of weight training, strength training and resistance training
Hi ObsidianOrder,

A note regarding the merger of RT et al. Resistance training as used now is in the sense of resistance provided by elastic tension or water, not in the broader sense of any resistance to the contraction of muscle (through weights, elastic, structure in isometrics, etc). The confusion between the broader definition of resistance (anything to resist contraction) and the one used in wikipedia is part of the reason for the merger. Having the overall category of strength training would allow the differences between the different types of strength training to be highlighted and contrasted, clearing up the confusion between the two types of resistance training and allowing comparison of the different effects of each type of training. Whaddya think? WLU 22:25, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

So you've changed your mind on the merger then? WLU 10:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

give them more rope, and more shovels. let simmer a few months. then sit back and enjoy the show.

I've finished as much of the merger of weight training as possible, I'd love comments. Mostly what I did was take out the info that was duplicated in strength training and tried to highlight how weight training differs from the other types of strength training. Help! WLU 02:04, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

new outline for cold fusion
Hello OO. I've archived the discussion on the new outline for cold fusion. Please feel free to bring it back if you believe it should. Here are my 2 cents. I would recommend that you make the case for changing the current structure: what's wrong with it ? How would the new outline improve it. Also, make your change in the article itself, rather than in a temporary page: you'll get more feedback. Pcarbonn 09:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Synthetic crude/Synthetic fuel
Merry Christmas, ObsidianOrder! I proposed to merge the Synthetic crude article to the Synthetic fuel article, which you created. Your comment is appreciated. Beagel (talk) 08:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Synthetic fuel
Hi, ObsidianOrder. There is a plan to improve the Synthetic fuel article to the GA level. In this process, there are still several issues, which should be done before renominating this article for GAN. As you have contributed to the article and/or discussion, you may be interested to participate in the discussion about the article improvement. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 07:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Bioelectromagnetics and biomagnetism
Hi. I noticed you haven't edited in a long time, but if you are still around Wikipedia, there is a discussion on whether bioelectromagnetics and biomagnetism should be merged. My position is mostly neutral. Your input would be appreciated. Thanks. Sidelight 12 Talk 04:52, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Rentech for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Rentech is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Rentech until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. CorporateM (Talk) 03:01, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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Please consider addressing the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and files for discussion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Salavat (talk) 08:42, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

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User talk:StavrosMelb

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Image Tagging Image:M80-distances.gif
Thanks for uploading Image:M80-distances.gif. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use GFDL to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the image qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Matt 14:12, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

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