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Tamil language
This is almost a self-nomination. I did a major rewrite, content addition and formatting according to the standard template for language articles. Had earlier put it for peer review at Peer review/Tamil language/archive1. Had converted the alphabet chart into image format to avoid browser incompatibility on Bishonen's suggestion there. I feel that the article is mature enough and is of featured-quality. -- Sundar 06:56, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * comments: a map would be desirable. the "Dialects" section is a list without commentary. We would at least want a map to show their distribution. I'm not sure about the tablea-as-images: I cannot render Tamil Unicode, but I would use something like the table on Tamil alphabet, with a small image of each letter on top of the Unicode glyph). "Writing system" looks a bit orphaned, at the bottom there, it should probably come before "Phonology". A short section about Tamil literature would also be nice. The detailed explanation of the example sentence is very nice. dab (ᛏ) 07:48, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I've requested for help with maps from User:Nichalp. "Writing system" moved above. Pjacobi has offered to work on the tables over the weekend.-- Sundar 05:53, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Vadakkan has rectified most issues pointed out. -- Sundar 12:58, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)

1) No references. This is a basic requirement of a featured article. Please do not nominate articles that do not meet them. 2) There are many sections with only a few sentences or a single paragraph, or merely a summation. This indicates that either more can (and should) be said about the topic, or that the structure of the article should be revised. 3) Some (at least one) sound samples of spoken Tamil are needed. 4) Some of the section jump from topic to topic, notably the Grammar section. Text flow needs to be improved in these sections. 5) I think mentioning Tamil as a language spoken in for example the Netherlands is ridiculous. I looked it up, and there are an estimated 2000 Tamils (7000 acc to ethnologue) living in the Netherlands (on a population of 16 million). Even if all of them speak Tamil, that's not a significant number. Jeronimo 08:07, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Object.
 * Will add references. -- Sundar 05:53, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done by User:Vadakkan. -- Sundar 12:58, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * User:Vadakkan has merged/copyedited many sections to remedy this. -- Sundar 05:53, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done by User:Vadakkan. -- Sundar 12:58, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Will add soon. -- Sundar 05:53, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done  by User:Vadakkan. -- Brhaspati 01:03, 2005 Feb 20 (UTC)
 * It has improved after Vadakkan's edit, but the grammar section still needs improvement. -- Sundar 05:53, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done - the grammar section has been totally rewritten and now flows quite well. Ditto the section on phonology. -- Arvind 17:40, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done. That part is removed in the box and rephrased in the geographic distribution. -- Sundar 05:53, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * My objections seem to have been resolved. Support. Jeronimo 08:36, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks to both of you for the comments. I'll try to rectify soon. -- Sundar 08:28, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)

 * Support Awesome article... Conditional Support When the references are added, then this is a support vote. If not, it's a neutral vote. Squash 09:39, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Will do that soon. -- Sundar 11:43, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Someone shall acquire relevant papers from this list or shall try to get authoritative books from the library on this subject and reference them. -- Sundar 11:54, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done by User:Vadakkan. -- Sundar 12:58, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Layman's conditional support, I fear there's still a lot to do, starting with the literature references. I have the article on my watchlist since I'm on Wikipedia but unfortunately without much ability to enhance it myself. Some thoughts:
 * The "spoken in" table entry just went nuts in a lot a language articles, there should a serious clarification, where to draw the limit. And some volunteers watching all these boxes. Fortunately nobody added Tamil to Category:Languages of Netherlands (yet).
 * I've no problem in removing non-obvious entries from there. Feel free to remove them. -- Sundar 11:43, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Sundar 12:58, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * I hope (and wait for the experts' judgements) the dates in the history section are in accordance with current scholarly opinion, as they were often targets of edit ambushes in the past of the article.
 * Newer evidences are coming to surface as latest as today. Please refer to this news item. -- Sundar 11:43, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done - the section has been checked, and a reference to a source has been inserted. -- Arvind 17:40, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * It's a plus that the alphabet tables are converted to graphics and include IPA pronounciation, but:
 * IPA should be written with brackets, not slashes
 * The IPA column should be given the header "sound", the current "sound column" better replacved with romanization columns
 * Both ASCII based and scientific romanization should be given
 * I'll wait for some time till someone else does this as I'm somewhat busy with work. If noone does that, I'll try to do that myself. -- Sundar 11:43, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Arvind 17:40, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't we have the ability to upload and link audio clips? That would be most cool for language with a rather different phonem inventory than most readers are used to.
 * I know of audio clip sources for Tamil, but have to see the license conditions. -- Sundar 11:43, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * I was more thinking along the line of you speaking the example phrases and recording that. --Pjacobi 12:26, 2005 Feb 17 (UTC)
 * Oh. Me, of all the people, with my horrible voice. Let me try to get it done from one of my friends. First of all, I need a Windows machine with the whole setup. Also, it appears that I may not be able to contribute to the article in a big way for the next couple of weeks. So, if nobody else helps with the objections, I may be withdrawing the nomination. :-( Meanwhile, I've requested comments from Prof.Hart through mail. -- Sundar 12:41, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Pjacobi 10:28, 2005 Feb 17 (UTC)

 * Support. The references had been used properly, just had not been added to the article. Sound samples would be great to. The more the better. Especially that alphabet song :) Object. No references. As a courtesy to other editor's time, please make sure the article you nominate meets all of the featured article criteria before nominating it. - Taxman 14:02, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * I apologise for not doing so. I thought a brute force method of receiving quick objections and rectifying the errors in one go might work as the article didn't get much attention in Peer review/Tamil language/archive1. Now, a few contributors like Pjacobi, Vadakkan etc have started working on the article. Let us see if we can bring it to FA status or else I'll withdraw the nomination. -- Sundar 15:34, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, now you know. Please follow that advice in the future. This looks like it will pass FA if not this time, then the next. Peer review is improving, as more editors are commenting, and more people are implementing the suggestions. It will take time, but it is becoming a more valuable process. Now as to references, as has been pointed out to me by multiple people, adding references solely in response to a request for them carries the risk that they were not properly used as references and they are just being added to check off another requirement. I have asked Vadakkan to confirm their proper use. - Taxman 15:08, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * I've added a tongue twister as a sample of how the language sounds. I'd be very  happy if someone with a better voice than mine can sing the first few alphabet verses from the atticudi (or just recite/chant it). Arvind 19:48, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment — On an 800x600 resolution the horizontal scrollbar is extremely irritating. Consider moving the offending table to another page. Nichalp 19:43, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Should I presume that you meant the table in the Examples section? If so, what can we put there as a summary? By the way, can you help with creating a map showing the Tamil-speaking areas around the world? (I know your expertise in maps ;) -- Sundar 04:15, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Btw, I've reduced the font size of the table. Feel free to format it further to make it even more smaller. Once the phoneme charts are modified, made smaller and inline with the paragraph text, the article should be shorter. -- Sundar 06:06, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * After putting a lot of thought into it, I don't think the table can be compressed further. What you can do instead, is put up a simple example, a very basic example on the page and move the table contents to a new page. This would clean up the current mess. Nichalp 18:14, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * User:Kaal compressed the table horizontally by combining three columns into one. This issue seems to be fixed for now. -- Brhaspati 01:07, 2005 Feb 20 (UTC)

 * Most of the concerns have been addressed. -- Sundar 12:58, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * All have now been addressed, as far as I can see. -- Arvind 17:40, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * Support. All the concerns have been addressed. This article is now awesome. -- Kishore 03:53, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * [[Image:WikiThanks.png]] - Thanks for the wonderful edits by Vadakkan which were well supported by Brhaspathi, Kaal, Nichalp and others. Now the article has reached featured-quality. -- Sundar 04:48, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)

 * Support. This article is fantastic, but I have one doubt in this. The character "akh" is called as Aayidha Ezhuththu not aayudha ezhuththu, I believe. The image of the shield is put in the Tamil books for school children to visualize and remember it better, but we seem to associate the shield as weapon and call it as Aayudha Ezhuththu. It is also called saarbezhuththu, since it cannot be used separately. Correct me if wrong, and if I'm right correct the article. -- Santhoshguru 07:57, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * AFIK, it is called aayutha ezhuthu, may be, I'm wrong. The association with a shield may be because of what you say. If you find any references or any info regarding the name do add that. I agree on the saarbezhuthu part. We should add it to the article. -- Sundar 08:36, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it would be appropriate to list all the different saarbezhuthukkal of which only(?) 'akh' has a visual representation. I think characters undergoing elision are also called saarbezhuthukkal. In fact, ezhuthu in Tamil may not correspond entirely with a character, lexeme or phoneme. -- Sundar 08:45, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Take a look at my edit to the section which, I think, fixes the problem. I don't think we need to discuss all the saarbezhuthukkal in this article - although we perhaps could do that in the article on the Tamil alphabet. -- Arvind 13:01, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Your latest edits are fine. And I do agree that such detail as saarbezhuthukkal belongs in Tamil alphabet and not in this article. -- Sundar 14:55, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * The change is good. But still I have one small issue in that, article says "The āytham is also called ahenam or āyutha ezhuthu ". I think it must sound something like this "The āytham is also called ahenam or ஆய்த எழுத்து, but people pronounce it wrongly as āyutha ezhuthu due to the association of shield with it". May be the structure of the sentence is bad, but I think you people can get what I want to say. -- Santhoshguru 09:57, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * It's not really a mispronunciation - ஆயுத எழுத்து has become one of the names which people use for the letter, thanks to the association with the shield. I've reworded the section a little bit more - see if you agree with the present.  And this is really a very small niggle which doesn't have much to do with the article's FAC, so we probably should move this discussion to the talk page rather than continuing it here. -- Arvind 13:59, Feb 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, this really is a small niggle. Lets move forward. -- Santhoshguru 15:20, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)


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William V. Spanos

William Vaios Spanos (31 Dec 1924 – 29 Dec 2017) was a Heideggerian literary critic. Spanos was a Distinguished Professor of English and comparative literature at Binghamton University, Binghamton, New York; he was a founder and editor of the critical journal boundary 2. His work draws heavily on the philosophical legacy of Martin Heidegger, and while it does show the influence of the deconstruction of Jacques Derrida and Paul de Man, Spanos's vocabulary and concepts remain closer to Heidegger's Destruktion ("destruction") of metaphysics than to its philosophical successors.

He completed his PhD at the University of Wisconsin–Madison in 1964.

Spanos takes a post-modern approach to the West, globalization, colonization, and general interventionist foreign policy. He talks about a problem/solution mindset that America was in during the Vietnam War, and how all foreign policy now is still stuck in this framework. Spanos' work derives from philosophers ranging from Heidegger and Nietzsche to Foucault.

Spanos was born in Newport, New Hampshire, the son of Greek immigrants. A veteran of World War II, he was captured during the Battle of the Bulge and taken a prisoner of war to Dresden, Germany. There he survived the Allied firebombing of the city. It was a singular experience that he only recounted fifty years later in his autobiographical book, ''In the Neighborhood of Zero. ''

Books
A Casebook on Existentialism
 * Repetitions: the Postmodern Occasion in Literature and Culture, Baton Rouge: Louisiana State University Press, 1987
 * The End of Education: Toward Posthumanism, Minneapolis: University of Minnesota Press, 1993
 * Heidegger and Criticism: Retrieving the Cultural Politics of Destruction, Minneapolis: University of Minnesota Press, 1993
 * The Errant Art of Moby-Dick: The Cold War, the Canon, and the Struggle for American Literary Studies, Durham, NC: Duke University Press, 1995
 * America's Shadow: An Anatomy of Empire, University of Minnesota Press, 1999
 * The Legacy of Edward W. Said, University of Illinois Press, 2009
 * In the Neighborhood of Zero, University of Nebraska Press, 2010

Papers

 * Heidegger's Parmenides: Greek Modernity and the Classical Legacy, in Modern Greek Studies
 * Heidegger, Nazism, and the Repressive Hypothesis: The American Appropriation of the Question, in boundary 2, vol. 17, 1990
 * Althusser's 'Problematic' in the Context of the Vietnam War: Towards a Spectral Politics, in Rethinking Marxism, vol. 10, no. 3, 1998
 * Rethinking the Postmodernity of the Discourse of Postmodernism, in International Postmodernism: Theory and Literary Practice'', ed. Hans Bertens and Douwwe Fokkema, Amsterdam: John Benjamins, 1997

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Talk:Deutsche Physik

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'war-winning atomic bomb' I'm not wild about, but I'm not sure how best to edit it. Is the intended sense that it could have changed the outcome of the war (if developed by the Axis); or that it terminated the war, at the time it did? Alai 06:57, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * The latter, but it's not essential. --Fastfission 13:37, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Loanword or not?
My addition of Category:German loanwords to this article was recently rejected, on the grounds that the phrase is simply a German phrase that is sometimes used in English. I would argue that that's exactly what a loan word is. I was using the criterion that as long as it could be used in an English sentence without qualification (e.g. "Deutsche Physik, as the Germans called it"), then it is a loan word (or phrase). Would anyone care to disagree? I accept that it's not the sort of thing one first thinks of when considering loan words, but I believe it still counts. At least, there's no point in removing it from the category, when that could be useful for somebody. --Stemonitis 16:19, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I disagree because I don't think that's what a loanword is at all. First of all, Deutsche Physik is the name of a particular historical movement. It has one meaning. It is not generalizable. Merriam-Webster's definition of "loanword" is worth consulting:
 * a word taken from another language and at least partly naturalized
 * It's the latter part which distinguishes a loanword from just any word used from another language. Deutsche Physik is not a loanword under any practical definition, and the way it is written is evidence of this enough: usually in italics, always with the capital P used in German nouns. It has not been even partly naturalized, much less anywhere close to the degree usually exhibited by loanwords; it is distinguished for its foreignness. If this is a loanword, then any German word is a loanword. I think that's a bit nonsensical. (And considering the fact that this entire entry is about concerns over "classification," I think it matters to try and make it sensible!) Loanwords are words which are used as regular parts of the language which are taken directly from another language. Angst is a great example: it has its own meaning in English, to the point that most people are not aware it is actually a German word. Auf wiedersehen is not a loanword -- it is simply German. --Fastfission 22:31, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Despite that fair and lucid argument, I would still like to apply the category. I freely admit that it's not a great example of a loan word, but it still belongs in a category where people can find words that have come into English from German. My point is that we don't talk about "Aryan physics" or "Jewish physics", we talk about "Deutsche Physik", and that it is therefore, at least in some sense, a loan phrase. (The capital P doesn't sway it for me: we maintain foreign aspects of other loan words that would not normally occur in English - e.g. accents in rôle, façade, irregular plurals such as bureaux, genera - and this is no different.) I fear that we could end up splitting hairs about degrees of naturalisation. The first step will always be the use of a foreign phrase, then it will become more familiar, and eventually it will not be considered at all foreign. "Deutsche Physik" is on a lower rung of the naturalisation ladder than, say, "angst" or "poltergeist", but it's the same ladder.
 * I might add a notice to the category, stating that it contains not only true loan words but also German words that are commonly used in English. Would that be more satisfactory? --Stemonitis 08:03, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I think miscategorizing it is not useful, and I'm not sure who would really benefit from this. I'm not sure who the "we" is who talk about Deutsche Physik -- historians talk about it but historians are usually comfortable with a number of languages (no naturalization). "Jewish physics" gets many more google hits than an English-only search for "Deutsche Physik". Which isn't authoratative (both have very low sample sizes, and the amount of overlap is likely very high). I think if one put a note on the loanwords page that "This page is for loanwords and other German phrases used in English writing" that would be fine though. Anyway I'm not going to really argue about it any more, I don't really think it matters that much either way. If it pleases you, feel free to do it, I've got no real reason to be snitty about it (it doesn't help me or anybody else!). --Fastfission 00:36, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm going to remove that category; it really isn't a loanword.--ragesoss 06:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Relativity
The origins section of this article (and National Socialism) seems to conflate special and general relativty, speaking only of one Relativity and talking about rejections of Michelson-Morely and Eddington's observations as if they applied to the same theory.--ragesoss 06:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm fairly sure the anti-Einsteinians rejected both of them together; the real steam against Einstein didn't begin until the 1920s, after he had formulated both of them. I'm also fairly sure that they wrote about them in the same manner. --Fastfission 18:09, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I thought there might have been an issue like that, or I would have just changed it.  Maybe the article should mention something about that.--ragesoss 20:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

--75.69.138.164 02:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC) This article contains no intresting information. shouldent it outline the basic theroys of this "nazi physics"? i would love to learn more about this.

 * As the article says it was an essentially negative theory. It defined itself by what it was not more than it actually said what it was, which was basically just classical mechanics with classical ether theories. --24.147.86.187 13:15, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

"Maxwell's Luminiferous aether"
Changed the sentence to read: "Many of these classical physicists resented Einstein's dismissal of the notion of a luminiferous aether, which had been a mainstay of their work for the majority of their productive lives."Biggus Dictus 20:16, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

The Legitimate and the Bizarre
The article conflates two very different phenomena and thus is at risk of conveying an inaccurate understanding of how science advances. Thus, we have the text entry:

''During the early years of the twentieth century, Albert Einstein's Theory of Relativity was met with much bitter controversy within the physics communities of the world. There were many physicists, especially the "old guard," who were suspicious of the intuitive meanings of Einstein's theories.''

This entry is presented in a context which could lead readers to regard challenges to A Einstein's notions as somehow improper. In fact, it is the normal business of science to subject big, new ideas to vigorous challenges (on an intellectual level, of course).

Scientists are frequently ambitious and even brilliant scientists may be poor human beings. Whereas it is not unusual for a scientist to take personal offense at the success of a a competing theory and to even to seek to undermine a competitor's position and funding, the recourse of a racially motivated political movement seems to me unprecedented. I'd almost be tempted to laugh, except for the good people who were hurt in the process.

In this context, I'd like to invite contributors to reconsider the formulation, and to distinguish between hard, even aggressive, intellectual competition, from the aberration of the Deutsche Physik Movement. --Philopedia (talk) 11:44, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Timeline
The current article doesn't have many dates in it. For example, when was it that Himmler forbade criticism of Heisenberg? It is my impression that Lenard & Stark were active "anti-relativists" already in 1920 (see de:Kritik an der Relativitätstheorie) and that this contributed to Stark's losing his professorship at RWTH Aachen in 1922. If this is correct, then the nazi era (1933-) is a failed come-back for the German physics, and not its glory days. When was the term coined? --LA2 (talk) 12:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Origins
The following text seems badly written. Can somebody rewrite it to improve clarity? Probably because this old European university calls itself "Catholic", in contemporary war propaganda it was not only quickly asserted that this had been done on purpose,[who?] but in addition that German soldiers had nailed nuns to the doors of Belgian churches and, moreover, that they had chopped off the arms of little children --Aravn (talk) 10:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Jewish Nobel Prize winners
I don't want to suggest that there is such a thing as Jewish science or Aryan science, but many Jews themselves have spoken proudly about the number of their fellow Jews who have won the Nobel prize, especially in some of the more theoretical fields like physics. Maybe there should be a note on this somewhere in a given entry that would mention Jewish academic contributions to modern scientific culture and scientific research. ADM (talk) 17:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Clear separation
I agree with LA2! More dates please!

And this article needs a clear separation of events before and after the "Machtergreifung" that is the beginning of Nazi rule in 1933. A statements like:

"By this time, the early 1930s, there were no longer any Jewish physicist professorships in Germany, since under the Nuremberg Laws Jews were not allowed to work in universities."

contradicts itself since the Nuremberg laws were only passed in 1935. Before 1933 there were plenty of jewish professors. Its not like nazi rule was introduced gradually. Until 1933 there was a power struggle between moderates/democrats, communists, nazis and monarchists/nationalists. The appointment of Hitler as Chancellor by the senile nationalist President Hindenburg was a caesura since before that the monarchist-nationalist elite had abhorred the nazis and their "world-war private first class" Hitler.--Hisredrighthand (talk) 11:00, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

What is the source for the Chomsky quote? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.198.12.3 (talk) 04:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Problems with the article scope
It is unclear what the burning of the library in France has to do with framing Jewish scientists (there are articles linking here per Jewish Physics), or how this relates to English vocabulary or translations. There is no question that there were nationalists motives to advance German language or scientists, but it is all very vague how widespread this was. Probably related to directives from some propaganda department, but this is all mixed up here in the article. prokaryotes (talk) 05:38, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

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Emphasis of Jewish physicists on the primacy of theory
I changed a sentence in the first paragraph of the article that said talked how a Philip Lennard textbook in the paradigm emphasised the "standard scientific method" based on "observation-hypothesis-experiment-theory" in opposition to the emphasis of "Jewish" physicists on the primacy of theory, so that it now says "supposed emphasis" rather than "emphasis".

I made this change because the previous wording sounded like a demonisation and mischaracterisation of quantum physics and relativity. While a lot of that physics was indeed "theoretical" in the sense that most of the work was done at the blackboard rather than in the lab, and there was a relatively large amount of advanced mathematics involved, at all times the theory was beholden to experiment in the sense that it was based on physical observations, made predictions that could be tested in the lab, and could and would be modified if it failed to match predictions.

On the other hand, the original wording could be be interpreted as saying that the new quantum mechanics rightly emphasised the importance of a solid and rigorous theoretical framework. I suspect that this was not the intention, and if it was I believe it performed its task rather poorly. Supposing it was the intention however, I'd be interested to see some justification for this assertion before the article is changed back again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antic-Hay (talk • contribs) 02:05, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Heisenberg and Himmler.
"Heisenberg had, as a young boy, attended school with SS chief Heinrich Himmler. In a historic moment, Heisenberg's mother rang Himmler's mother and asked her if she would please tell the SS to give "Werner" a break. "

Is there a reference for this? According to and, they attended different schools.

Another version of the story is that Heisenberg's grandfather and Himmler's father attended the same school.

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Talk:Land and Liberty (Russia)

Black (Re)partition
Is this the same thing as the Black Partition party, or is that something else? -- Jmabel | Talk 06:58, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * I see. we refer to Black Repartition rather than Black Partition. I'll add a redirect. Still, this article should mention that name, no? -- Jmabel | Talk 07:01, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * I see, you like to talk with smart people (yourself :-). May I join?... Yes, the second name is also used, and redirect is in place. But, e.g., EB uses "Re", a more precise translation, both in language and in original name intentions. Mikkalai 07:26, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Chaikovtsi
I just added the Circle of Tchaikovsky, and I need you knowledgeable people to add to its history. I am following Kropotkin's memoirs. He has stuff on Dmitry Klements, a great buddy of his, although he calls him Dmitri Kelnitz for obvious reasons. But he gets arrested and we don't hear about the Circle anymore. Would you have other sources to draw from? Mr.Rocks 08:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)-

Several Meanings
Whoever is deleting these additions, please explain.

Disambiguation page for "land and liberty"
Please make a disambiguation page for this. It means (1) Revolutionary Slogans (2) Newspaper (3) Russian Revolutionary Organization (4) Herzen's program I'd do it, but I am not clear how to do it. Skovoroda 18:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. - Jmabel | Talk 04:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

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