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Talk:Untilted

Hi, this is getting out of hand. I propose we move this page back to where it should be, i.e. Untilted. The move from "untilted - fakes" to "IDM releases - fakes" shouldn't have happened because this article only concerns a single release. It's also my opinion that the fake information should be on the Untilted page and not in a separate "fakes details" subpage, unless it grows to be so massive that it warrants splitting. Therefore I propose its moved to Untilted. --Sund 01:53, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

trackilist/times
we could do with a track/timelisting for each of the 4 main leaks (there may well be a fifth circulating, i haven't had a chance to grab it yet). Anyone up for this?

..i wish :) ...im having enough trouble keeping track of them... there are two torrents for the same files up on torrentspy.com and this http://www.uber-doom.com/autechre2005/ has a rar of what i belive is V2 which  was just confirmed to be the beheading hoax guy.  i did an update: but that information should really be better integrated into the article.... it would be kind of neat to leave the old, outdated info inline with this article (maybe a different color to designate that it has been disproven or something) just to retain all the different facets to this.

Page move
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IDM releases - Fakes → Untilted
Article concerns faked leaks of a sigle album and thus should be placed in an article for that album. -- Sund 01:59, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Support this is the craziest thing i have ever seen, we have to restore some semblance of order to this article. alibosworth (although i would like to hear any reasons for this mad system of redirects)
 * Oppose. There are many things titled (ironically) "Untitled," and to be honest, I'm not sure that this article wouldn't be better off on VFD.  A.D.H. (t&m) 03:32, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * It's untilted. Not sure about the VFD; I tend to stay away from albums. --SPUI (talk) 09:19, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Neutral Usually on VFD the vote would be something like "Delete...When the album comes out, come backand write the article if becomes notable" but right now, I'd recommend for VfD (which I'm tempted to do).  Is it "Untitled" or "Untilted"?  AND...why is it a double redirect? —ExplorerCDT 05:27, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Support this should have never been moved.
 * Support This article's existence is really out of kindness to the Record Label Records crew. It's unnecessary entirely, but at least in Untilted it will be less silly.  <3, Junjk

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Johann Konrad Ammann (1669 – 1724) was a Swiss physician and instructor of non-verbal deaf persons.

Johann Konrad Ammann was born at Schaffhausen, Switzerland. After graduating at Basel in 1687 he began to practise at Amsterdam, where he gained a great reputation. He was one of the earliest writers on the instruction of the non-verbal deaf, and first called attention to his method in his Surdus loquens (Amsterdam, 1692), which was often reprinted, and was reproduced by John Wallis in the Philosophical Transactions (1698).

His process consisted principally of drawing the attention of his pupils to the motions of his lips and larynx while he spoke, and then inducing them to imitate these movements, until he brought them to repeat distinctly letters, syllables and words. He died at Warmond, near Leiden.

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Talk:Glitter rock

is glitter rock distinct from glam rock?

Re: I think this needs to be earmarked for deletion. Most of the bands mentioned here are mentioned in the glam rock article, which is far more complete. No attempt is made to distinguish glam from glitter, and from what I gather, they are two different words for the same thing.

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What exactly does this mean?
"Heaven" reached #1 in Rolling Stone? Rolling Stone doesn't have a chart. Care to rephrase that? 24.211.211.161 (talk) 05:21, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

HA! I was just about to post the same thing. There is no #1 in Rolling Stone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.100.185.254 (talk) 17:49, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Music Genre
Hi, I've noticed some people calling Warrant a "hair metal" band on the article and the articles related to Warrant. Let me fill you on a little secret guys, hair metal is not a genre, it's an insult. Call it "Glam Metal" instead.Cory pratt

One problem I have with this article is the statement that Warrant experienced their greatest success with the album- Cherry Pie. That is not true. Their first album, Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinkin' Rich is their most successful album. Heaven reached #2 on Billboard's Hot 100 Singles chart and the source for this is the Billboard Book of Top 40 albums. DRFSR went platinum and peaked at #10 on the 200 albums chart. The ballad, I Saw Red, peaked at #10.

The version that reached the Top 10, was that the acoustic version or the electric version?

Cory Pratt
hey dude cory, "hair metal" is not an insult. its a nickname like teeth metal (cause everybody smiled in pictures) if you dont believe me watch "Heavy the Story of Metal" on vh1 thanks ~Jake —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.195.180.103 (talk) 20:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC).
 * It CAN be an insult, but only if certain emphasis is put on the term. I've heard plenty of people refer to the genre as hair metal without meaning anything negative. It isn't like the term "mallcore", which is meant to offend/insult someone or something. Cronos12390 05:26, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes, it can be an insult when used with emphasis, and it can also be an embracement; e.g., the "Hair Nation", "House of Hair" music programs. However, whether music fans and musicians embrace the label or not is irrelevant. The OP is correct. "Hair Metal" is not a genre of heavy metal music. Non-insulting use of the label has been used more often to describe popular heavy metal music of '80s time period. It's therefore more chronologically descriptive than stylistically descriptive. NWOBHM bands Judas Priest and Iron Maiden have on occasion been often been re-labelled as "hair metal" despite obvious musical differences to most glam metal bands. If "Hair Metal" is a genre, how do we describe it musically? What musical commonalities do Poison, Mötley Crüe, Accept, Def Leppard, and W.A.S.P. share which makes them so similar as to be in the same subgenre? Few if any. -- A.K. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.99.244.96 (talk) 04:49, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

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Bobby Borg
Bobby Borg is listed on this Wikapedia Page as a drummer in Warrant, on another Wikapedia Page as a drummer in Beggars & Thieves and on another Wikapedia page as the author of The Musicians Handbook, yet Bobby Borg does not have his own Wikapedia page. Bobby Borg is the author of seven Music Business Books and is currently a professor at the Famed Thornton School of Music. Many other people with far fewer credits have their own Wikapedia page, how about carve one out for Bobby Borg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:BFC0:9:9D3F:E251:6682:A7B4 (talk) 05:08, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

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Warrant (German band)

Warrant is a German speed metal band. It was formed in Düsseldorf in 1983 by Jörg Juraschek (vocals, bass), Thomas Klein (guitar) and Lothar Wieners (drums).

They went on tour with Warlock in 1985, after releasing an EP and an LP. The band soon split up. In 1999, they briefly reunited and recorded two new songs. Both of Warrant's albums were reissued on a single disc in 2000 with the new tracks included. In August 2010, Pure Steel Records announced the re-release of the albums.

Members

 * Current
 * Jörg Juraschek – vocals, bass (1983–1985, 1999–present)
 * Michael Dietz – guitars (2015–present)
 * Marius Lamm – drums (2022–present)
 * Adrian Eric Weiss – guitars (2022–present)

 * Former
 * Arno Verstraten – drums
 * Lothar Wieners – drums
 * Thomas Franke – drums
 * Thomas Rosemann – drums
 * Randy Tomlin – drums
 * Thomas Klein – guitars (1983–1985)
 * Oliver May – guitars (1985, 1999–2011)
 * Dirk Preylowski – guitars (2011–2015)

Discography

 * First Strike (EP, 1985)
 * The Enforcer (studio album, 1985)
 * Metal Bridge (studio album, 2014)

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where:

 * $$\frac{\mathrm{d}p}{\mathrm{d}x}$$ is the pressure gradient
 * L is a characteristic length
 * ρ is the fluid density
 * ν is the kinematic viscosity

For natural convection

\frac{\mathrm{d} p}{\mathrm{d} x} = \rho g \beta \Delta T, $$

and so the Hagen number then coincides with the Grashof number.

Awad: presented Hagen number vs. Bejan number. Although their physical meaning is not the same because the former represents the dimensionless pressure gradient while the latter represents the dimensionless pressure drop, it will be shown that Hagen number coincides with Bejan number in cases where the characteristic length (l) is equal to the flow length (L). Also, a new expression of Bejan number in the Hagen-Poiseuille flow will be introduced. In addition, extending the Hagen number to a general form will be presented. For the case of Reynolds analogy (Pr = Sc = 1), all these three definitions of Hagen number will be the same. The general form of the Hagen number is

\mathrm{Hg} = -\frac{1}{\rho}\frac{\mathrm{d} p}{\mathrm{d} x}\frac{L^3}{\delta^2} $$

where

 * $$\delta$$ is the corresponding diffusivity of the process in consideration

title: Hagen number


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Sha

Sha or SHA may refer to:

Places

 * Sha County, Fujian, China
 * Shanghai Hongqiao International Airport, (IATA code)
 * Sia, Cyprus, also spelled Sha
 * Sagamihara Housing Area, an army installation in Japan
 * Vehicle registration plates in the district Schwäbisch Hall and the town Schwäbisch Hall, Germany

People and language

 * Sha (surname)
 * Sha (singer) (born 1979), German singer
 * Sha Fei (1912–1950), Chinese photojournalist
 * Sha language
 * Sha (Cyrillic) (Ш, ш), a Cyrillic letter
 * Śa (Indic), a character in Brahmic scripts that originally represented a voiceless postalveolar/alveolo-palatal fricative // (modern pronunciation varies by language)
 * Ṣa (Indic), a character in Brahmic scripts that originally represented a voiceless retroflex fricative // (modern pronunciation varies by language)

Government and organizations

 * Maryland State Highway Administration
 * Strategic health authorities, England
 * Saskatchewan Hockey Association, now known as Hockey Saskatchewan
 * Secondary Heads Association, now the Association of School and College Leaders
 * Society for Historical Archaeology
 * The Socialist Health Association, a left-wing English medical association  affiliated with the Labour Party.

History

 * Scriptores Historiae Augustae

Science and technology

 * Secure Hash Algorithms, SHA-0 to SHA-3
 * Shorthand abstraction, a term presented in the 2007 book What Is Intelligence? by James R. Flynn
 * Sidereal hour angle, in astronomy
 * Intel SHA extensions
 * Measure of material hardness using a Shore A type Shore durometer

Other uses

 * Sha (animal), the totemic animal of the Egyptian god Set
 * Sha (comics), a French comic by Pat Mills
 * Shareholders' agreement, or stockholders' agreement
 * Stableford Handicap Adjustment, a component of the Golf Australia Handicap System

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David Toms

David Wayne Toms (born January 4, 1967) is an American professional golfer who currently plays on the PGA Tour Champions. From 1992 to 2017, Toms was a member of the PGA Tour, where he won 13 events, including one major, the 2001 PGA Championship. He was in the top 10 of the Official World Golf Ranking for 175 weeks between 2001 and 2006, and ranked as high as fifth in 2002 and 2003.

Early life and amateur career
Toms was born in Monroe in northeastern Louisiana. He is the son of Thomas Edward "Buster" Toms from Minden in northwestern Louisiana. Toms won the 15-17 Boys' event at the 1984 Junior World Golf Championships. Toms also played little league baseball with future Major League Baseball players Albert Belle and Ben McDonald. After graduating from Airline High School in Bossier City, Louisiana, he attended Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge, and was a member of the golf team.

1989–98: early years and first win
In 1991, Toms finished T23 at the PGA Tour qualifying school to earn his first full tour card for the 1992 season. Toms made his first three cuts on tour including a third-place finish at the Northern Telecom Open, although this was the only top 10 he would earn all season. The following season was also a struggle for Toms as he made just 12 of 32 cuts for the season, of which three were top-10 finishes. In 1994, Toms' lack of success continued on the PGA Tour and he lost his playing rights for the 1995 season.

In 1995, Toms played the entire season on the Nike Tour (now the Korn Ferry Tour) with greater success, winning two tournaments, the Greater Greenville Classic and the Wichita Open. This success earned Toms his PGA Tour card for the 1996 season.

Upon his return to the PGA Tour in 1996, Toms had a disappointing season with just two top 10s. However, he did manage to qualify for his first major championship of his career at the 1996 U.S. Open, where he missed the cut.

In 1997, Toms won his first PGA Tour event at the Quad City Classic, winning by three strokes over Brandel Chamblee. He followed this success in the 1998 season with a runner-up finish at the Tucson Chrysler Classic. At his first visit to Augusta National, he recorded his best finish in a major championship at the time with a T-6 at the Masters. In his defense of the Quad City Classic title, Toms finished fourth.

1999–2000: three more wins
In 1999, Toms enjoyed seven top-10 finishes on the PGA Tour. In September, he won his second title at the Sprint International, by three strokes over David Duval. Toms almost added another title the following week when he narrowly missed out at the Reno-Tahoe Open, finishing in T-2 behind Notah Begay III. Toms did, however, win his third PGA Tour title a month later at the Buick Challenge, defeating Stuart Appleby by three strokes.

In 2000, Toms made 26 of 31 cuts, including a tie for fourth at The Open Championship. He won the Michelob Championship at Kingsmill, defeating Canadian Mike Weir in a sudden-death playoff, giving Toms his fourth Tour victory.

2001: PGA Championship
The standout year of Toms' career came in 2001. He had nine top-10 finishes and three wins on tour, one of which was his first major championship. Toms won the Compaq Classic of New Orleans by two strokes over Phil Mickelson for his fifth PGA Tour title. That summer, Toms won a major, the PGA Championship, by one stroke over Mickelson. His winning score of 265 in the 2001 PGA Championship was the lowest absolute 72-hole score ever recorded in a major championship, until Henrik Stenson shot 264 in the 2016 Open Championship. Toms followed up his first major win by successfully defending his title at the Michelob Championship at Kingsmill. At the last event of the year, Toms entered a four-man playoff at The Tour Championship where he, Sergio García and Ernie Els lost on the first extra hole to Mike Weir.

2002–06: five more wins
In 2002, Toms lost in a playoff at the season opening Mercedes Championship to García when the Spaniard made birdie on the first extra hole. He did record a further 12 top-10 finishes with runner -up finishes at the MasterCard Colonial and the Buick Challenge followed by a sole third-place finish at The Tour Championship.

Toms finished runner-up at the WGC-Accenture Match Play Championship in 2003 to Tiger Woods, losing 2&1, and also finished tied for eighth at The Masters. At the Wachovia Championship, he won his eighth PGA Tour title, by two strokes over Robert Gamez, and then recorded his best showing ever at the U.S. Open, finishing T-5. A few weeks later, Toms won his ninth PGA Tour title at the FedEx St. Jude Classic by three strokes over Nick Price.

In 2004, he defended his FedEx St. Jude Classic by finishing six strokes clear of American Bob Estes for his 10th victory on the PGA Tour. Despite this win, Toms endured a steady yet unspectacular season earning over 2.3 million dollars.

Toms enjoyed a much better start to the 2005 season in which he had top-10 finishes in five of his first seven events, including a win at the WGC-Accenture Match Play Championship to record his first World Golf Championship victory. He defeated fellow American Chris DiMarco 6&5 in the 36-hole final on Sunday for his 11th PGA Tour win. Along the way, Toms defeated notables including Phil Mickelson, Adam Scott and Ian Poulter. Later in the season, he almost defended his FedEx St. Jude Classic title for a third successive year but finished one stroke behind Justin Leonard.

Early in 2006, Toms won his 12th PGA Tour title at the Sony Open in Hawaii, finishing five strokes ahead of Chad Campbell and Rory Sabbatini. He followed up this early season form with a T-2 finish at the Ford Championship at Doral behind Tiger Woods and then a T-3 finish a week later at The Honda Classic. Toms' form dipped during the rest of season, only recording a further two top-10 finishes.

2007–12: injuries and comeback
In 2007, Toms had solid season with a succession of top-10 finishes, most notably a ninth-place finish at The Masters and an equal-best T-5 at the U.S. Open. Toms made just over $2 million in prize money and finished 33rd in the FedEx Cup standings.

Toms struggled during the 2008 season with injuries that forced him to miss large parts of the season and underperform. He only participated in 20 events during the season with only one top 10. He finished the season 136th on the FedEx Cup standings, making just under $800,000.

Toms enjoyed a much better season in 2009, with three runner-up finishes at the Sony Open in Hawaii, St. Jude Classic and the Travelers Championship amongst four other top-10 finishes. This form earned Toms a place in the season-ending The Tour Championship. He would finish 19th in the FedEx Cup standings with earnings over $3 million.

In 2010, Toms had just two top-10 finishes, his best placing coming at the Wyndham Championship where he finished in second place, one stroke behind winner Arjun Atwal. Toms made it to the third FedEx Cup playoff event the BMW Championship but did not make it into the top 30 to advance and eventually finished the season 55th in the standings.

Toms started the 2011 season well with a T-5 at the Mayakoba Golf Classic at Riviera Maya-Cancun and a T-3 at the Arnold Palmer Invitational. Toms then came close to his first PGA Tour win in five years at The Players Championship where he eventually lost on the first extra hole to South Korean K. J. Choi. This came despite leading the tournament for the majority of rounds two, three and four. Toms held the lead for the entire final round until he reached the par five 16th hole where he found the water with his second shot. This enabled Choi to take a one shot lead down the 18th hole; however Toms would make a birdie to Choi's par to take the event into a sudden-death playoff. At the first extra hole, the 17th, both players found the green with their tee shots. They would both go on to run their birdie attempts past the hole, but Toms would also see his par putt lip out from four feet, allowing Choi to make a three-foot putt for the victory.

Toms bounced back the week after his playoff loss to win the Crowne Plaza Invitational at Colonial by one shot over Charlie Wi. Toms tied the PGA Tour scoring record for 36 holes after shooting a pair of 8-under-par 62s for a seven shot lead at the halfway stage. Toms' lead disappeared after a third round 74 when he trailed Wi by one stroke entering the final round. However, in the final round he shot a 67, which included a holed-out eagle from the fairway on the 11th hole for a one stroke victory. This was Toms' first win in over five years on the PGA Tour. The win guaranteed Toms a place in the U.S. Open and moved him up to 28th in the Official World Golf Ranking.

In June 2012, Toms recorded his best-ever performance in a U.S. Open when he finished T-4. Toms had been one of the co-leaders after 36 holes at one under par alongside fellow Americans Tiger Woods and Jim Furyk, but his challenge fell apart on day three when he found himself five over for his first six holes on his way to a 76. Toms did perform well on Sunday with a two-under round of 68, but fell short by two strokes.

Golf course design
Toms owns a golf course design business, which he describes as what he plans to do after his playing days are over. His early works, all in Louisiana, were as a player-consultant, and in renovation and redesign of existing courses. The first course for which he was the lead designer was Carter Plantation in Springfield, Louisiana.

Philanthropy
In 2003, Toms created the David Toms Foundation for the purpose of helping underprivileged, abused and abandoned children. Grants are made to programs that are designed to bolster a child's self-esteem, and help him or her develop into a productive citizen. His foundation raised more than $1.5 million for Hurricane Katrina relief. For his efforts, Toms shared the 2006 Golf Writers Association of America's Charlie Bennett Award with fellow Louisianans Kelly Gibson and Hal Sutton. In 2013, the foundation partnered with AdvoCare to support Holy Angels, a Louisiana non-profit, helping those with developmental disabilities.

Personal life
Toms currently resides in Shreveport in northwestern Louisiana. He and wife, Sonya, have two children, Carter and Anna. In 2015, his son Carter signed to play for Louisiana State University.

PGA Tour wins (13)
PGA Tour playoff record (1–3)

Nike Tour wins (2)
Nike Tour playoff record (2–1)

Other wins (2)
Other playoff record (1–1)

PGA Tour Champions wins (4)
PGA Tour Champions playoff record (1–0)

Results timeline
{{legend|lime|Win}} {{legend|yellow|Top 10}} {{legend|#eeeeee|Did not play}} CUT = missed the half-way cut WD = withdrew DQ = disqualified "T" = tied for place

Summary

 * Most consecutive cuts made – 6 (2000 Masters – 2001 U.S. Open)
 * Longest streak of top-10s – 2 (twice)

Results in The Players Championship
{{legend|yellow|Top 10}} {{legend|#eeeeee|Did not play}} CUT = missed the halfway cut "T" indicates a tie for a place

Results timeline
1Cancelled due to 9/11 {{legend|lime|Win}} {{legend|yellow|Top 10}} {{legend|#eeeeee|Did not play}} QF, R16, R32, R64 = Round in which player lost in match play "T" = Tied NT = No tournament WD = Withdrew Note that the HSBC Champions did not become a WGC event until 2009.

Results timeline
{{legend|lime|Win}} {{legend|yellow|Top 10}} {{legend|#eeeeee|Did not play}} CUT = missed the halfway cut "T" indicates a tie for a place NT = no tournament due to COVID-19 pandemic

U.S. national team professional appearances

 * Ryder Cup: 2002, 2004, 2006
 * World Cup: 2002
 * Presidents Cup: 2003 (tie), 2005 (winners), 2007 (winners), 2011 (winners)

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Danger Danger

Danger Danger is an American glam metal band formed in Queens, New York, in 1986.

History
Danger Danger was formed in 1986 by former Hotshot members lead vocalist Mike Pont (joined in 1987), bassist Bruno Ravel (born 1964), and drummer Steve West (joined in 1987) (born 1964). This lineup also featured then future Hotshot guitarist Al Pitrelli (born 1962) and the former keyboardist of Jazz/Rock/Fusion group Get With It, Kasey Smith (born 1960). Mike Pont later left the band and was replaced by Ted Poley (born 1962), who previously played in the band Prophet as drummer, and sometimes lead vocalist. Somewhere during this time, they made a failed attempt at recording a demo.

They made another attempt at recording a demo and this time it landed them a recording contract with Epic Records. In 1988, Pitrelli left Danger Danger. Shortly after, Pont and Pitrelli reunited to form a new lineup of Hotshot. Since then, Pitrelli has played in various other bands. Pitrelli played on most of the Danger Danger compilation album Rare Cuts.

In 1988, Saraya guitarist Tony Rey joined briefly and played on part of their debut album, before returning to his previous band. Andy Timmons (born July 26, 1963) replaced him and played on the rest of their debut album, which was released the same year. The album spawned two hits with "Naughty Naughty" and "Bang Bang", with the former gaining a spot in MTV's Headbangers Ball. The band went on tour opening for KISS, Alice Cooper, Extreme and Warrant.

After that, the band went on to record their follow-up in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, releasing Screw It! in 1991. The album spawned two other hits with "Monkey Business" and "I Still Think About You" and again they went on tour with KISS. After the tour, Kasey Smith left the band and started a new project titled Shock together with friend and former Get With It drummer Michael Bellusci.

In 1993 the band had finished work with their third album titled Cockroach. However, the band fired singer Poley. Subsequent lawsuits from Poley prevented the album from being released. In the meantime, Paul Laine (born October 12, 1967) was hired by Ravel and West as the new singer and he re-recorded the vocals for the new album. When they were about to release the album, Epic thought it was in their best interest to shelve the record. Shortly after that the band and the label parted ways. In addition, guitarist Timmons left the band to pursue a solo career. Timmons went on to play guitar on both of Kip Winger's solo albums.

Ravel and West formed their own label, Low Dice Records, and started working on a new album with Laine. They released Dawn in 1995 which featured a more somber and introspective tone. The album was partly marketed through the band's fan club, newsletter and website. The band recruited bassist Scott Brown, who had previously played with Paul Laine as a solo artist, and they went on tour again in the U.S. The band went back in the studio and released Four the Hard Way in 1997. Former band members Andy Timmons and Kasey Smith contributed to the album, and the band went back on tour. In 2000 they released The Return of the Great Gildersleeves.

In 2001 the band made a unique move after talks with Epic, releasing Cockroach, which was supposed to be their third album, but could not be released for legal issues. The album featured two discs with two versions of the album, one with Laine on vocals and the other with Ted Poley. In 2002 the song "Naughty Naughty Christmas" was featured in the Tim Allen movie The Santa Clause 2. They followed Cockroach with Rare Cuts in 2003, a collection of unreleased and rare tracks including early demos with original member Pitrelli, now playing with Megadeth and Trans-Siberian Orchestra, that were recorded in his mother's laundry room. In 2004 Laine left the band and original singer Poley returned. However, in 2005 the band still released, Live and Nude, which was recorded in 2003 and featured Laine on vocals.

In 2008 rock and roll comic C.C. Banana recorded a song called "Ted Poley", released on the album Kiss My Ankh. The song is a parody of the Kiss song "Unholy", inspired by the story of Poley's first encounter with Kiss lead singer Paul Stanley.

On September 19, 2009, the independent label Frontiers Records released Revolve, featuring the return of Poley as lead singer, as well as new member, guitarist Rob Marcello (born September 9, 1977). The album coincided with the 20th anniversary of their debut release for Imagine Records.

The classic lineup of Ted Poley, Bruno Ravel, Steve West, Andy Timmons, and Kasey Smith reunited in 2014 for a series of touring dates.

Current members

 * Bruno Ravel – bass guitar, backing vocals (1986–1995; 1997–present), guitar (1993–1995, 1997–2000), keyboards (1993–1995, 1998–2014, 2014-present)
 * Steve West – drums, backing vocals (1987–1995; 1997–present)
 * Ted Poley – lead vocals (1987–1993, 2004–present)
 * Rob Marcello – guitar, backing vocals (2003–present)
 * Steve Brown – guitar, backing vocals (2016–present; occasional touring guest)

Former members

 * David Walls – lead vocals (1986) (repetitions only)
 * Mike Rose — guitar (1986) (repetitions only)
 * Joe Franco — drums (1986) (repetitions only)
 * Phil Naro – lead vocals (1986-1987)
 * Mike Pont – lead vocals (1987)
 * Al Pitrelli – guitar, backing vocals (1987–1988)
 * Tony "Bruno" Rey – guitar (1988–1989, 1997, 2000)
 * Kasey Smith – keyboards, backing vocals (1987–1993, 1997–1998, 2014)
 * Andy Timmons – guitar, backing vocals (1989–1993, 1997–2003, 2014)
 * Paul Laine – lead vocals, guitar, keyboards (1994–1995; 1997–2004)
 * Scott Brown – bass guitar, backing vocals (1994—1995; touring member)

Live albums

 * Down and Dirty Live EP (1990)
 * Live and Nude (2005)

Compilation albums

 * Rare Cuts (2003)

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Hi! I will ask you to assume good faith here: just because you don't like a source, doesn't mean it isn't valid. You're also assuming I'm "pushing transphobic statements into the article", when the source is merely quoting what is there. I'll also be quick to point out you're jumping to a conclusion and some original research as well: while IGN may very well be referring to Poison as a 'trap' in the derogatory sense...the article is about things that surprise the player or otherwise act as, quite literal, traps. Labeling it as such is assuming that was the intention, which while reasonable is still synthesis and the source should still very well stand. I get where you're coming from, but jumping to the conclusion that I'm forcing that into an article that I mostly wrote and pushed heavily to have on wikipedia does incite a bit of a kneejerk.

I'm not going to lie, it does come across as the slur. But it does still have a spot in the lead regarding reactions to it. I disagree that we should assume too that the statement are clear transphobia and probably more a case of ignorance yet still derogatory, which they rightfully are. I'm doing some small modifications to what you added to smooth out the tone, but we could use actual issue and page numbers from OPM if we're going to include that. As it stands the article on the whole needs a few updates anyway.

Have a nice day?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 07:51, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

 * Been watching this discussion and wanted to chime in briefly since I see that you used something similar to this defense in the past. Intentionally quoting uses of words that are *unambiguously* slurs without even so much as including the traditional 'sic' indication from the editor is not some act of unbiased presentation or a way to 'prevent censorship'. If a slur against a race of people were being used in the piece I suspect the tone of the discussion would be different; if people want read slurs they can click through to the source material. Omitting the slur from the quote does not in any way change the value of the quote unless the intent of quoting the source is to explicitly be offensive/misleading, illustrate something about the piece, or depict satire. None of those things are the case here. No matter what, the authors are still allowed to express their opinions in the source (as you have not altered it) so nobody is censoring them either. Maintaining the slur as a part of the article, or introducing additional slurs, adds no informational content. This is not a defensible case where the slur is a key element of the source being quoted either - as most of the accepted uses of racial slurs in WP articles appear to be.

 * P.S. what do you mean by 'quite literal' traps? And how does your definition differ from the definition of the slur? It doesn't seem like there's any difference between what you have described in your comment and the *actual definition* of the slur. In this context there is *no* non-derogatory sense for the word to be used because the literal definition of the word is what makes it a slur in this context. The user in question here does not appear to have jumped to any conclusions given that you appear to have held a position strongly in defense of using unnecessary slurs in WP articles for over two years (based on the other article's talk page).

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Hello, I do not think user talk pages are the appropriate place for this discussion. I think Talk:Poison (Final Fight) is the correct place for this discussion. I have quoted the above two posts on that page, and I have posted a response to Kung Fu Man's 07:51 comment there also. Awk (talk) 09:24, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

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Love poems translated: (kinda late but now you have an extended Valentines)

今夕何夕兮？搴舟中流，今日何日兮？得与王子同舟。 What eve is this eve, that we fare midstream? what day is today, that I fare with Prince? 蒙羞被好兮，不訾诟耻。 Flattered and favored, should'ave blushed myself. 心几烦而不绝兮，得知王子。 Heart is butterflies with no end, knowest not Prince? 山中有木兮木有枝，心悦君兮君不知。 Slop has woods and woods have limbs. Enamored with Prince but Prince ignorst.

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　　恋郎思郎非一朝，好似并州花剪刀。 Loved ya missed ya not (just) one day, same as scissors flower-laced. 　　一股在南一股北，几时裁得合欢袍？ A blade in North and the other South, when can they tailor my wedding gown?

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思想起, 桃花含唇有胭脂, 李花獻白無芳味. I recall---peach flower's kisses have lip rouge; plum flower flirts but has no scent. 舊情再來, 思想起, Old love returns. I recall--- 綠竹開花綠竹青, 甘蔗好食两頭甜.... Bamboo blossomed and bamboo greens; Sugar cane tastes sweet on both ends...

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Talk:Presidents Cup

Apostrophes
Moving to Presidents Cup, without an apostrophe, which is the official name. Wincoote 09:41, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Well, i venture that the official name is wrong. The omition of an apostrophe makes me feel icky!

 * I agree, but the mis-spelling of omission has a similar effect on me!  Kevin McE 12:10, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Just to clear it all up....It's not a cup that has been possessed by the presidents or one of the presidents, so it's not the possessive form as in "Presidents' Cup" nor even "President's Cup". Rather, it's a cup for all the presidents. Think of it like a similar construction regarding a certain sailing trophy, The Americas Cup --- it's a cup for the Americas (all three of them, mind you) and is certainly not a Cup possessed by the Americas nor one of the Americas nor even 'America' (wherever that is). It's also like saying The Soldiers Memorial (which would be a memorial for soldiers) and is not like saying The Soldiers's Memorial (which would be a memorial possessed by all the soldiers) nor The Soldier's Memorial (which would be a memorial possessed by one specific soldier).

Locations
I've noted where Robert Trent Jones GC is to my satisfaction, but since I am not from Canada, Australia, or South Africa, I do not know what is the typical way of referring to those facilities are. I invite a native of one of those countries to make those designations as accurate as possible.

Scoring?
The article says, "alternate shot and best ball formats (also known as "foursome" and "four ball" matches respectively)." I have no idea what these scoring systems are. How do they operate? They are not defined in the match play article. Nick Beeson (talk) 15:39, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Links added. Tewapack (talk) 16:35, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

International team flag
It'd be nice to have the 'flag' for the International team: small Presidents Cup with 12 stars above and wiggly lines underneath, in blue and yellow

shown here: http://www.presidentscup.com/scoring/2011.html

small image here: http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0927/pga_intlogo_55.jpg

Nigej (talk) 09:50, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

 * It is unfortunately trademarked and almost certainly under copyright (the only chance would be if it was considered too simple to copyright, and it's probably complex enough)... we would only be able to use it under fair use, and I'm not sure how feasible that would be given fair use policies. Carl Lindberg (talk) 23:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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Which President?
The article needs to tell us which President is being referred to in the Tournament's title. For instance, is it the same as the Honorary Chairman (who may or may not be a current or former President of the US or South Korea, or whatever), or did it originally refer to the first Chairman, former President Gerald Ford,  or to the President of some US or World Golf organization, or something else entirely? Tlhslobus (talk) 08:45, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

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Talk:Poison (band)

Too much about individual band members
I thought this trimming job by was very appropriate. Elan Morin Tedronai removed a bunch of stuff about individual band members doing non-Poison things. For instance, the stuff about Bret Michaels acting with Charlie Sheen has nothing to do with the band. Same with Michaels on a sex tape.

Let's keep this article focused on the band, and send the off-topic bits to other articles. Binksternet (talk) 17:57, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 1 October 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. German band article deleted at AfD. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 01:26, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Poison (American band) → Poison (band) – see page views from the American band (37,867) and the German one (375). same case as with Nirvana (band). not even sure the german one satisfies notability guidelines FMSky (talk) 07:49, 30 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 16:44, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 00:58, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * There is nothing "technical" about this request, especially due to WP:COMMONNAME, and titling an article with WP:PDAB like Thriller (album) has a really high bar of controversy. This request has to have a discussion. Steel1943  (talk) 14:12, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

 * Oppose per WP:PDAB. 162 etc. (talk) 17:20, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * so i guess Nirvana (band) just gets different rules? --FMSky (talk) 06:01, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

 * The German band has been nominated at AfD. If the AfD consensus is to delete the article, then the American band could be moved to Poison (band). Otherwise (if the AfD consensus is to keep the article), then the American band should remain at its current title. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 14:05, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Relisting comment: Holding decision until the AfD on the German band is resolved. – robertsky (talk) 16:44, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * If that is closed a delete we can probably move as uncontroversial like with Articles for deletion/Iron Maiden (blues rock band).  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:51, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

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Drive-through

A drive-through or drive-thru (a sensational spelling of the word through), is a type of take-out service provided by a business that allows customers to purchase products without leaving their cars. The format was pioneered in the United States in the 1930s, and has since spread to other countries.

A drive-up window teller was installed at the Grand National Bank of St. Louis, Missouri, in 1930. The drive-up teller allowed only deposits at that time.

Orders are generally placed using a microphone and picked up in person at the window. A drive-through is different from a drive-in in several ways - the cars create a line and move in one direction in drive-throughs, and normally do not park, whereas drive-ins allow cars to park next to each other, the food is generally brought to the window by a server, called a carhop, and the customer can remain in the parked car to eat. However, during peak periods, to keep the queue down and avoid traffic flow problems, drive-throughs occasionally switch to an "order at the window, then park in a designated space" model where the customer will receive their food from an attendant when it is ready to be served. This results in a perceived relationship between the two service models.

Drive-throughs have generally replaced drive-ins in popular culture, and are now found in the vast majority of modern American fast-food chains. Sometimes, a store with a drive-through is referred to as a "drive-through", or the term is attached to the service, such as, "drive-through restaurant". or "drive-through bank".

Drive-throughs typically have signs over the drive-through lanes to show customers which lanes are open for business. The types of signage used is usually illuminated so the "open" message can be changed to a "closed" message when the lane is not available.

Drive-through restaurants
A drive-through restaurant generally consists of:
 * A speaker and microphone for customers to place their orders
 * A speaker and microphone or wireless headset system for employees to hear the customer's order (when a speaker is used)
 * A trigger pad beneath the concrete to activate the microphone and headset
 * Monitoring of the driveway and window through a CCTV system to monitor traffic flow and any criminal action which may occur at the window such as an armed robbery
 * One or more free-standing signs listing the menu items, called a menu board
 * Newer drive-throughs feature a LCD or LED display within the speaker system in order to show the full order and total cost to avert order errors through miscommunication; the entire menu board may also be a display, freeing employees of the responsibility of switching out promotions, adding or removing items, and making pricing changes. At many restaurants, a secondary display featuring the total is placed directly next to the order window to provide the amount to customers, usually paying with cash.
 * Windows where employees interact with customers by processing the customer's payment and giving them their order. Most drive-throughs have either one window serving both functions, or two windows with the first being used for payment and the second used for retrieving the order, depending on overall restaurant traffic.
 * Most restaurants have marked parking spaces just beyond the last window. If there is a significant delay in an individual customer's order (e.g. a special order) or congested line traffic, an employee may direct that customer to park in this area, clearing the drive-through lane for the next customer and preventing knock-on delays to other customers. When the order is ready, an employee hand-delivers the order to the customer. This service therefore occasionally has some similarities to drive-in service, but only during peak periods.

Drive-through designs are different from restaurant to restaurant; however, most drive-throughs can accommodate a queue of four to six passenger cars or trucks at once. Most drive-through lanes are designed so the service windows and speaker are on the driver's side of the car, for example, in left-hand traffic (right-hand drive) countries such as the UK, Ireland, Australia, India and New Zealand, the windows will be on the right side of the drive-through lane, and vice versa in right-hand traffic (left-hand drive) countries such as North America and mainland Europe. There are a few drive-through lanes designed with the service windows on the passenger side, but these lanes are few and usually confined to ordinance compliance situations, as they cannot be used easily by driver-only vehicles.

According to a 2021 report in QSR Magazine, 42 percent of all customer traffic came to the drive up window. The fastest drive-through of 2020 in the United States was Taco Bell, with an average time of 4.46 minutes, followed by KFC with 4.53 minutes, 4.76 minutes at Carl's Jr. and 4.91 minutes at Dunkin'.

Coffee is often sold through drive-through only coffee shops.

History
In 1921, Kirby's Pig Stand introduced the drive-in restaurant, in which carhops delivered meals. In 1931, a California Pig Stand franchise introduced a drive-through service that bypassed the carhops. The first identified drive through restaurant was established in 1947 at Red's Giant Hamburg located in Springfield, Missouri. A year later in 1948, Harry and Esther Snyder of the In-N-Out Burger chain built a drive-through restaurant, featuring a two-way speaker system that Harry Snyder invented himself earlier that year. By the 1970s, drive-through service had replaced drive-in restaurants in the United States.

The first McDonald's drive-through was created in 1975 in Sierra Vista, Arizona, near Fort Huachuca, a military installation, to serve military members who were not permitted to get out of their cars off-post while wearing fatigues. The original McDonald's was closed down and demolished in 1999 and a new McDonald's replaced it.

In 1987, the concept of the double vehicle drive-through was pioneered by Bob Charles. Charles, a franchisee of McDonald's based in Boulder, Colorado, was the first to design and implement this innovation, which resulted in significantly increased per unit volume.

In 1981, Max Hamburgers opened Northern Europe's first drive-in in Piteå.

Another early drive-through restaurant in Europe, a McDonald's drive-through, opened at the Nutgrove Shopping Centre in Dublin, Ireland, in 1985.

In the US, drive-throughs account for 70 percent of McDonald's business and the average drive through order is fulfilled in under three and one half minutes. Outside of the US, McDonald's drive-throughs are variously known as "McAuto", "McDrive" and "AutoMac".

In 2010, the Casa Linda, Texas, franchise of McDonald's opened a drive-through/walk-up-only store with no indoor seating although it has a small patio with tables.

Drive-through banking
In 1928, City Center Bank, which became UMB Financial Corporation, president R. Crosby Kemper opened what is considered the first drive-up window. Shortly after the Grand National Bank in St Louis opened up a drive-through, including a slot to the side for night time deposits. Westminster Bank opened the UK's first drive-through bank in Liverpool in 1959, soon followed by Ulster Bank opening Ireland's first in 1961 at Finaghy.

In recent years, there has been a decline in drive-through banking due to increased traffic congestion and the increased availability of automated teller machines and telephone and internet banking. Many bank buildings now feature drive-through ATMs.

Grocery shopping
Harold Willis and his father, Robert Willis, first incorporated a dairy and eggs drive through service in Redlands, California, in the early 1940s, supplying milk and eggs quickly and efficiently to driving customers; this utilized a dairy conveyor belt that Harold Willis had invented. Some supermarkets offer drive-through facilities for grocery shopping. In the UK, this service was first announced by Tesco in August 2010. In the United States, Crafty's Drive-Buy Grocery Store in Virginia started offering the service. In 2012, the Dutch chain Albert Heijn introduced a "Pick Up Point" where one can collect groceries bought online.

Dairy products were available at a drive-through dairy store (notably the Skinner Dairy shops of North-East Florida or Dairy Barn in Long Island).

Liquor stores
Alcoholic beverages have been sold at a drive-through liquor store (called a "Beer Through", a "Cruise Through", a "Brew Thru" in the U.S. eastern Mid-Atlantic coast, or a "Pony Keg" or "Party Barn" in certain areas; generally illegal in the Northeast and West)

Drive-through medical testing
During the COVID-19 pandemic, drive-through testing became a common approach around the world for testing people who were potentially infected with the virus. In 2020, drive-through testing facilities were set up in many countries to test whether passengers were infected with COVID-19 (the first being in South Korea).

This approached allowed medical workers to process high volumes of tests quickly while reducing exposure and risk of infection between those being tested by keeping patients isolated in their vehicles.

The process typically saw patients present their ID before being swabbed while remaining in their vehicles, before driving off once the test was complete. Their results were then typically shared with them either via text message or via their doctor.

Emissions
In recent years, drive-through restaurants and other drive-through facilities have faced increased scrutiny due to the higher levels of emissions that they create – compared to walk-in equivalents. A 2018 study by QSR Magazine found that the average waiting time at a McDonald's drive-through restaurant in the US took 3 minutes and 15 seconds, with an average of 3.8 cars waiting at any one time. This figure rose to an average of 4 minutes 25 seconds in 2019.

If the average motorist avoided idling for just 3 minutes every day of the year, emissions would be reduced by 1.4 million tonnes annually, or the equivalent of taking 320,000 cars off the road.

In response to emerging evidence of the role that drive-throughs play in contributing to climate change, Minneapolis banned the construction of new drive-throughs in 2019, while a number of other US cities, including Creve Coeur, MO; Fair Haven, NJ; Long Beach, CA; and Orchard Park, NY, have enacted ordinances to restrict or prohibit fast-food drive-through restaurants.

Outside the US, a total of 27 municipalities have banned drive-through restaurants on the grounds of environmental and health concerns from engine idling

Traffic
Long drive-through lines in the United States have been reported to cause traffic backups, blocking emergency vehicles and city buses and increasing the risk of collisions and pedestrian injuries. The popularity of Chick-fil-A's drive-throughs in particular has led to traffic problems, police interventions, and complaints by neighboring businesses in more than 20 states.

Other examples
Some other examples of drive-through businesses include:
 * Postal services at a drive-through mailbox
 * Prescriptions at a drive-through pharmacy
 * Marriage (primarily at special drive-through marriage chapels in Las Vegas in the United States)
 * Funeral home where mourners can drive by, view and make offerings to the remains of their loved ones through windows.
 * Pennsylvania State Representative Kevin P. Murphy installed a drive-through window designed to speed constituent service.
 * Photo processing at Fotomat.

Non-car customers
Pedestrians sometimes attempt to walk through the drive-through to order food. Many establishments refuse drive-through service to pedestrians for safety, insurance, and liability reasons. Cyclists are also usually refused service with the same justification given. However, in the summer of 2009, Burgerville gave use of the drive-through window to bicyclists.

Walk-up windows
Some companies provide a walk-up window instead when a drive-through may not be practical. However, the walk-up windows should not be confused with small establishments that customers are lined up for services such as mobile kitchens, kiosks, or concession stands. These walk-up windows are value-added services on top of the full services provided inside the stores. Since the COVID-19 pandemic an increasing number of restaurants, including bakeries and pizzerias, have introduced sliding windows that are licensed by the local municipality for customer transactions.

An example is when McDonald's entered a new market in Russia where the majority of families did not own cars, the owners developed the walk-up windows as an alternative. Some establishments may want to use walk-up windows to attract certain customer demographics such as younger customers who need quick service during late night. Another reason is to offer extended service hours and maintain a safe environment for employees, such as a bulletproof walk-up window in high-crime areas.

Horse
Similar issues can arise in rural areas for people on horseback or in a horse-drawn carriage. On 20 July 2013, a woman was fined for taking her horse inside a McDonald's restaurant in Greater Manchester, United Kingdom, after being refused service at the drive-through. The horse ended up defecating inside the restaurant which caused distress to other customers.

Visually impaired
In May 2016, Scott Magee filed a United States federal class action lawsuit pursuing action against McDonald's due to the company being unwilling to serve people who are visually impaired, when only the drive thru lane is open.

On 24 May 2018 a law came into effect in Portland, Oregon, requiring multi-modal access to drive-throughs. The new zoning law states, "When a drive-through facility is open and other pedestrian-oriented customer entrances to the business are unavailable or locked, the drive-through facility must serve customers using modes other than a vehicle such as pedestrians and bicyclists."

After one year, the Portland law was working well. The Willamette Week tested five locations, and in all cases customers without cars received satisfactory service:

Ski-through
McDonald's first opened a ski-through called McSki in the ski resort of Lindvallen, Sweden, in 1996.

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Talk:Tenant-in-chief

The page seems self-contradictory; the first paragraph says that tenant in chief is the more common term, the second says that said term was invented by historians. Radiant! 09:46, Feb 16, 2005 (UTC)

Tenant-in-chief
The article should be moved to Tenant-in-chief which is the more common term, even if it is a neologism. . The article should also clarify that particular degrees in the aristocracy (duke etc) were unrelated to size of a landholder's estate. Alan 01:43, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

May 2011
Are we quite positive that the word "tenant" in "tenant in capite" is actually Latin anyway? --- Ehrenkater (talk) 13:15, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

The spelling in Latin is tenentes in capite, just google it to confirm...Wilfridselsey (talk) 13:27, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Have changed article accordingly --- Ehrenkater (talk) 13:51, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

One further question: was there a Norman French expression for "tenant-in-chief" in common use at any stage, and if so, should it be mentioned in the article? - Ehrenkater (talk) 14:53, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Tenant in Chief is a term coined by historians so is not something that is contemporary with the middle ages. The Norman French would have used the term tenentes in capite, I don't know whether French historians have come up with a modern French equivalent, but I don't think that would be relevant!! However the French and the rest of Europe were different to England. In England (post conquest), and eventually Wales, the Crown had absolute title to all the land (allodium), whereas in France the dukes and counts had absolute title to their lands and so were not vassals to the monarch. Other countries had variations on the French theme thus by the 11th century it was only England and Wales that really had tenants-in-chief. We do mention that In most countries allodial property could be held by the monarch and other nobles, however perhaps could expand that a bit to say that in France and other countries the great lords were not vassals of the king and had complete autonomy with regards to their lands and consequently tenants-in-chief did not exist after the 11th century. Wilfridselsey (talk) 16:25, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Tenancy
If this was a renting/tenancy it should be described as such in clear terms. AXO NOV (talk) ⚑ 14:47, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

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