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Since you seem to be a new user, please be aware of the three-revert rule -- 08:28, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

And you should also read Neutral point of view. RickK 08:52, Feb 6, 2005 (UTC)

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how can this have "cell size of 30 km" and cover 100% of Finland with 140 base stations!!??!! Mozzerati 08:32, 2005 Feb 6 (UTC)

Easily. 3,14*(30^2) ~= 2827 km^2 covered by each base station (give or take a little) * 140 of them is almost 400,000 km^2. Minus some thousands for cell overlap / geographical problems etc. Finland's area is 340,000 km^2, so it matches (ARP, being a fairly low frequency (compared to GSM) technology, doesn't mind line-of-sight obstructions as much as newer technologies). Although that would mean that the range is 30 km and cell size is 60 km? Anyway, it's not impossible.

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Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2005-02-07/Encarta

While unveiling its new search technology last Monday, Microsoft not only took aim at its competition among other search engines. It also made a move with significant implications for Wikipedia by promoting the fact that it would offer Encarta content free along with its search results.

This marked a significant expansion of freely available encyclopedia content from Encarta, which previously offered only a limited selection of articles for free. Until now, premium content from Encarta had been limited to subscribers, with Microsoft charging $4.95 per month or $29.95 annually for the service. Some Encarta tools, such as homework help and some maps, will remain limited to subscribers.

Although Microsoft plugged the incorporation of Encarta content into its search engine as an innovation, it follows several others that have already used encyclopedia content from Wikipedia to enhance their search results. Wikipedia was included in Yahoo!'s Content Acquisition Program unveiled last March, and has been featured prominently in search results from Clusty since it released its beta in September.

Recently, Clusty has even added a new feature to its search results by providing thumbnails of Wikipedia images when available, a fact covered by Mark Hall of Computerworld in a notes column last Monday. And while Google makes less of an effort to boost the prominence of encyclopedia content in its search results, it recently switched its "definitions" results over from Dictionary.com to Answers.com, a service that provides not only dictionary definitions but encyclopedia content, both from Wikipedia and the Columbia Encyclopedia.

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As Microsoft has done on numerous occasions previously, such as the browser wars, it is trying to attract customers and build loyalty by giving away some of its product. Use of Encarta for free through MSN Search is limited, however, to two hours, as shown by a clock counting down the time while you view the page. And if this is a deliberate strategy to compete with Wikipedia, it may not have the same effect as Microsoft's efforts against commercial competitors, since Wikipedia is also given away free.

Media coverage of the MSN Search launch frequently turned to Charlene Li, an analyst with Forrester Research, as an outside source to endorse the idea that incorporating Encarta into search was a big advantage for Microsoft. (Note: Forrester has published several controversial studies touting Microsoft products compared with Linux.) A Seattle Times article quoted Li as follows: "Here is this objective, fact-based information that you need," she said, "It's really hard to find that objective point of view" online.

When the launch of MSN Search was posted on Slashdot, the first post promptly brought up the comparison between Encarta and Wikipedia, asking, "should one use non-free but objective Encarta or free but biased Wikipedia?" This brought a rebuttal from Fennec, who pointed out Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. A number of comments followed debating the relative biases of the two encyclopedias.

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User talk:Dismao

I am dismao. I am a taoist living and breathing in nyc.

I believe in wikipedia. I will attemp to be fair and neutral.

I will abide by NPOV but bias is sometimes very difficult to determine.

Please look below to see how an administrator has overused his authority in solving a dispute between two parties. The lack of good faith and excuse to place a 3rr rule against me instead of following the written policy that disputes of content should be done in mediation. I make no excuses for my actions but it should never have gone this far especially since my dispute was with a person who claims he is an avid editor and superior in "wikipedia community policy". In the end full blame goes to Chris73 and my justification to no longer pursue anything related to wikipedia.

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You have been blocked for a 3RR on Howard Dean. Please see details on Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. The block will expire in 24 hours. The 3 revert rule limits user to 3 reperts within 24 hours, trying to prohibit edit wars. You are very welcome to edit again after the block expires, and more discussion on the talk page may be helpful. -- Chris 73 Talk 04:13, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * For clarification: The 3RR allows 3 reverts in 24 hours. Only the fourth revert may get an user (in this case you) blocked. At the time of blocking, Radicalsubversiv had only 3 reverts, whereas you had four. Hence you got blocked, and he did not. On a side note, about 7 hours after the 22:31, 24 Feb 2005 edit, Radicalsubversiv did another edit, his 4th edit in a 24 hour period. This happened after I blocked you, so I did not see it at that time. However, this edit removes only a single word, so it can be disputed if this is a revert. You may list it on Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. As the last edit may or may not be a revert, i am not sure if he will be blocked for 24 hours, 12 hours, or not at all. You may give it a try if you want, possibly with refering to your case on Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive8. In any case, a 3RR block does not support one version or another, but just tries to stop an edit war. hence, I have nothing against or for your edits. Best regards, -- Chris 73 Talk 12:43, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)

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Leaf peeping

Leaf peeping is an informal term in the United States and Canada for the activity in which people travel to view and photograph the fall foliage in areas where leaves change colors in autumn, particularly in northern New England, Appalachia, the Pacific Northwest, and the upper Midwest, as well as the provinces of Ontario and Quebec. An organized excursion for leaf peeping is known as a foliage tour or color tour.

A similar custom in Japan is called momijigari (紅葉狩). In Finland, the season is ruska and a trek is called ruskaretki.

United States
The term "leaf peeper" is used both with appreciation from businesses that benefit from the millions that pour into the higher elevations of the West, upper Midwest, and northern New England in fall, and with disdain from those who have to use the roads that get over-crowded due to leaf peepers. Hobbyists who get together for leaf peeping may refer to their gatherings as leaf peepshows.

In popular culture
The term "leaf peeping" has been used in numerous television shows, including "And It's Surely to Their Credit," an episode of The West Wing, and "Live Free or Die," an episode of The Sopranos.

Japan

Momijigari (紅葉狩), from the Japanese momiji (紅葉) 'red leaves' or 'maple tree' and kari (狩り) 'hunting', is the Japanese tradition of going to visit scenic areas where leaves have turned red in the autumn. It is also called kōyō (紅葉). Kōyō is another pronunciation of the characters for momiji which means "fall colors" or "leaves changing colors". It is also called kanpūkai (観楓会) in Hokkaidō, which means "getting together to view the leaves".

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999 (band)

999 are an English punk rock band, formed in London in December 1976. From 1976 to 1985, their line-up consisted of Nick Cash (vocals, guitar), Guy Days (lead guitar), Jon Watson (bass guitar) and Pablo LaBritain (drums). LaBritain was temporarily replaced in 1980 by drummer Paul Edward (aka 'Ed Case') while he recovered from a motor accident. Bassist Jon Watson left the band in 1985 and was replaced by Danny Palmer, who was succeeded by Arturo Bassick in 1991.

Between 1978 and 2007, 999 released fourteen singles and twelve studio albums. Five of the singles released by 999 between 1978 and 1981 charted within the Top 75 in the UK Singles Chart, with one further single in 1978, "Homicide", charting within the Top 40. In addition, as a result of extensive touring in the United States in the early 1980s, the band's third and fourth studio albums, The Biggest Prize in Sport and Concrete, each charted on the U.S. Billboard 200.

Despite having formed in 1976, 999 have only experienced two permanent changes to their original line-up and have continued to record and play live, leading AllMusic to describe them as "one of the longest-lived groups of the punk era".

Career
Named after the UK's emergency telephone number, 999 were founded in London by two brothers: singer and guitarist Nick Cash, and Guy Days. Cash was a member of the pub rock band Kilburn and the High Roads, and Days a session guitarist who played on some of the band's demo tapes. In late 1976 they placed an advertisement in Melody Maker for band members, and ended up turning down Chrissie Hynde (The Pretenders), Jon Moss (Culture Club) and Tony James (Generation X). They recruited Jon Watson on bass and Pablo LaBritain on drums, LaBritain having briefly played with the Clash. The band that eventually became known as 999 performed their first concert at the Northampton Cricket Club in January 1977. After experimenting with several different band names, they became 999 in May 1977.

999 soon established themselves as a powerful live act on the London punk scene, and became regulars at the Hope and Anchor, Islington. Their self-financed debut single "I'm Alive" was well received, becoming a firm favourite in the punk clubs. On the strength of it, 999 were signed to United Artists Records around the same time as the Buzzcocks. The band's second single, "Nasty Nasty", was cited nearly 20 years after its release as a seminal punk single.

Their self-titled debut album, produced by Andy Arthurs, was released in March 1978. One retrospective review claimed it "demonstrated their limitations as well as their strengths. The 45 cuts like "Me and My Desire" and "Emergency" demonstrated the latter, but the album lacked that special ingredient, uniqueness or originality to make it stand out from the crowd." The album reached No. 53 in the UK Albums Chart. The following year, the song "Emergency" from the album appeared — alongside songs by bands including the Jam and the Stranglers — on the punk compilation 20 of Another Kind. That album reached No. 45 in the UK chart. Years later, "Emergency" was included in Mojo magazine's list of the best punk rock singles of all time.

The band's second album, Separates, was produced by Martin Rushent. One reviewer lists it as one of the best punk albums of all time. In the United States, a slightly altered version of Separates, re-titled High Energy Plan, became the band's first American release. In October 1978, a month after the album's release, 999 recorded their only session for John Peel at BBC Radio 1. 999 also played at Front Row Festival, a three-week event at the Hope and Anchor in late November and early December 1977. This resulted in the band's inclusion, alongside the likes of Wilko Johnson, the Only Ones, the Saints, the Stranglers, X-Ray Spex, and XTC, on a hit double LP of recordings from the festival.

999 toured widely in the United States, and were rewarded when their albums The Biggest Prize In Sport and Concrete charted on the Billboard 200. In the US, "Homicide" and "Hollywood" garnered frequent rotation on 'Rock of the 80s'-format radio stations such as KROQ in Los Angeles. According to Dave Thompson, "For many Americans, they were the first to actually bother with the backwoods, playing places which other Brit bands hadn't heard of, and returning to them again and again. And while no one knows how many American bands were first inspired to take up arms by 999, those that did still wear their loyalties loudly."

Despite a number of minor hit singles, the band's critical appeal in Britain had begun to wane. Their stock was lifted temporarily with the arrival of the self-released Face To Face. 999's popularity continued to decline steadily, leading to the group disbanding twice in the 1980s, reforming soon afterwards. They have since released several albums and continue to tour, including playing at the 11th Antifest in 2005. Bassick also plays for the Lurkers.

Line-ups
Current members
 * Nick Cash – lead vocals and guitar (1977–1982, 1983–1987, 1993–present)
 * Guy Days – guitar and vocals (1977–1982, 1983–1987, 1993–present)
 * Arturo Bassick – bass (1993–present)
 * Stuart Meadows – drums (2018–present)

Former members
 * Jon Watson – bass (1977–1982, 1983–1986)
 * Danny Palmer – bass (1986–1987)

Studio albums

 * 999 (March 1978, United Artists) - No. 53 UK
 * Separates (September 1978, United Artists)
 * The Biggest Prize in Sport (January 1980, Polydor) – No. 177 U.S.
 * Concrete (April 1981, Albion) – No. 192 U.S.
 * 13th Floor Madness (November 1983, Albion)
 * Face to Face (March 1985, LaBritain)
 * You Us It! (November 1993, Anagram)
 * Takeover (March 1998, Get Back)
 * Dancing in the Wrong Shoes (1999, Receiver Records – re-issue of Face to Face)
 * Death in Soho (2007, Overground)
 * Bish! Bash! Bosh! (April 2020, Cleopatra Records)

Compilation albums

 * High Energy Plan (U.S./Canada release only: 1979, PVC / Radar / Passport) based upon Separates, it replaced various album tracks with various singles
 * The Singles Album (1980, SOS)
 * Identity Parade (1984, Albion Records)
 * In Case of Emergency (1986, Dojo)
 * The Early Stuff (The UA Years) (1992, EMI)
 * The Albion Punk Years (1996, Anagram)
 * Scandal in the City (1997, Line Music) re-issue of The Albion Punk Years
 * Emergency (1997, Receiver)
 * Slam (1999, Overground)
 * The Punk Singles Collection: 1977–1980 (2001, Captain Oi)
 * Outburst! Demos & Outtakes 77-79 (2003, Overground)
 * The Sharpest Cuts 93-07 (2019, Gutterwail Records)
 * Sharpest Cuts Too, Vol 2 (2023, Gutterwail Records)

Live albums

 * The Biggest Tour in Sport – Recorded Live (1980, Polydor)
 * Lust Power and Money (Live) (1987, A.B.C.)
 * Live and Loud (1989, Link)
 * The Cellblock Tapes (1990, Link)
 * Live in L.A.: 1991 (1994)
 * Live at the Nashville 1979 (1997, Anagram)
 * English Wipeout: Live (2002, Overground)
 * Nasty Tales: Live (2006, Secret Records)
 * Bay Area Homicide (2016, Cleopatra Records) —4 disc box set
 *  Live (2021, Secret Records)
 * 999 - Rip It Up! - Live At The Craufurd Arms - CD+DVD Album (2024, Secret Records)

Singles

 * "I'm Alive" / "Quite Disappointing" (July 1977, LaBritain) re-released on United Artists in 1979
 * "Nasty Nasty" / "No Pity" (October 1977, United Artists) also released as a 78 rpm promo disc
 * "Emergency" / "My Street Stinks" (January 1978, United Artists) – No. 75
 * "Me and My Desire" / "Crazy" (April 1978, United Artists)
 * "Feelin' Alright with the Crew" / "Titanic (My Over) Reaction" (August 1978, United Artists)
 * "Waiting" / "Action" (September 1978, LaBritain) free record given away with mail-order copies of the Separates LP
 * "Homicide" / "Soldier" (October 1978, United Artists) – No. 40 UK
 * "Found Out Too Late" / "Lie Lie Lie" (September 1979, Radar Records) – No. 69
 * "Trouble" / "Make a Fool of You" (January 1980, Polydor)
 * "Hollywood" / "Boiler" (April 1980, Polydor)
 * "Boys in the Gang" / "Brent Cross" (Germany/Austria release only: 1980, Albion)
 * "Obsessed" / "Change" / "Lie Lie Lie" (April 1981, Albion) – No. 71
 * "Li'l Red Riding Hood" / "Waiting for Your Number to Be Called" / "I Ain't Gonna Tell Ya" (live) (June 1981, Albion) – No. 59
 * "Indian Reservation" / "So Greedy" (remix) / "Taboo" (remix) (November 1981, Albion) – No. 51
 * "Wild Sun" / "Scandal in the City" / "Bongos on the Nile" (June 1982, Albion) also released as a 12" single with "Don't You Know I Need You"
 * "13th Floor Madness" / "Nightshift" / "Arabesque" (October 1983, Albion) also released as a 12" single
 * "Arabesque" (1984)

Compilation and soundtrack appearances

 * "Quite Disappointing" and "Crazy" on the Hope & Anchor Front Row Festival double compilation LP (March 1978, Warner Bros.) - UK No. 28
 * "Emergency" and "Homicide" on 20 of Another Kind (February 1979, Polydor) - UK No. 45
 * Urgh! A Music War – includes a live version on "Homicide" filmed and recorded at the Lyceum Ballroom in London on 17 September 1980
 * "Obsessed" on Trauma (1979, Pickwick International Inc (GB) Ltd.)
 * "Inside Out" featured on US version of Showtime Networks' Shameless
 * A cover of "Homicide" performed by the Prairie Cartel appears on the Grand Theft Auto IV soundtrack
 * "Homicide" appears on the documentary The Killing of America (1982) soundtrack
 * "Homicide" appears on Too Old to Die Young, an American crime drama miniseries written by Nicolas Winding Refn and Ed Brubaker
 * "Homicide" was covered by the band (error) which included members of Bad Religion, Nine Inch Nails and the Dillinger Escape Plan; there is also a remix of the track on the (error) EP

Music videos

 * "Emergency" (1978)
 * "Homicide" (1978)
 * "Obsessed" (1981)

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Combining this article
I propose to combine this article with List of Latin words with English derivtives but this will take a little while to achieve. rossb 08:43, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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POV
This article is horribly POV. Most of it seems dedicated to explaining why ITG is better than DDR. The rest is random POV trivia nonsense about song authors and stepcharts. Somebody rewrite this page and make it look better than a bunch of forum posts about how great ITG is. Moogy 01:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

If you could point out a "good example, bad example" type of thing, I might be able to try to fix some of it. Unfortunately, I'm still kind of new at Wiki editing, and I don't want to goof on such a big undertaking. Wolfman2000 09:35, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I think it might be best to approach this from a "section by section" vantage point. I may take a section or two and revamp to kill some of the POV. Personally I feel that the whole "comparison" part should be struck completely. People should draw their own comparions or conclusions based on individual articles of DDR and ITG, not one talking about the other. If i'm writing an article on Vic Firth drumsticks, I'm not going to include a section on how they compare to promark drumsticks and why i think they're better or worse, or write an article on Breyer's ice cream and say, "it has technical improvements over Edy's because it uses all natural ingredients." Darknote 20:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Todo
While I'd planned on writing more of it, I don't have much time on my hands at the moment, and thus I'm making a list for myself or others if they wish. Mike Tigas 08:43, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Differences with regard to DDR or other dance games.
 * I concidentally made a comparison table without reading this :) --Headcase 00:29, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Connections to Stepmania simulator. (ITG derived from Stepmania)
 * Song, artist information. (Kyle Ward aka KeeL aka KaW, E-Rotic, etc)

By franchise I meant "part of a series" or a continuing product. While ITG2 is being produced, because it has not been released, I don't really want to put it in that category just yet. Mike Tigas 08:45, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I have attempted to clean up some of the technical improvements section--lots of gory details there now. Probably some of it could be stricken out (or moved to another page, if not already present). Feel free to start whacking out sections which got too involved, however I felt having some of the technical information on DDR was important to see why ITG is an improvement, so I do ask if someone starts removing parts, put up a reference to another section like DDR's page in its place. Also, I felt that some of the previous comments about ITG seemed to take an opinion--I've attempted to restore them to a more objective nature without destroying the intent. And yes, that was my edit, but I dunno why it didn't sign it from me... hmm.... Dougk ff7 07:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

I eliminated some extraneous information and reworded awkward parts in the first "Gameplay" area. I want to create some subsections for Game Modes, but that will be for later. Darknote 05:37, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I eliminated some more extraneous information and reworded a couple of parts. Also: added "Game Modes" section, changed "Technical Improvments" to "Technical Details", and moved ITG3 information to "History" Darknote 07:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Inappropriate tone
I added an inappropriate tone tag to this article.

Most of this article looks like a series of Internet forum posts discussing the game. It needs serious cleanup by people with a strong understanding of professional style and tone.

Worst of the faults with this article is that it doesn't make a clear distinction between ITG (the series), ITG (the arcade game), and ITG (the Playstation 2 game.) In addition, it seems to be more caught up in minor facts than more useful descriptions of the game itself. For example, detailed discussion of the grading system is largely irrelevant to a descriptive encyclopedia article and belongs in a FAQ page for the game.

Also, the page needs fewer comparisons to DDR, lest the article appear to judge it to be a derivative work or a knock-off of DDR, which would violate NPOV.

I'd do it myself if I could (see my extensive changes to Beatmania IIDX, but I don't really have the time right now. Maybe when this semester of school is over. -Chardish 21:08, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

My recent edits hopefully help with this tone issue--I tried to minimize some of the comparisons to DDR, while attempting to make the page seem less POV. --Rahzel 06:23, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm removing the inappropriate tone tag from the article, unless anyone else objects. I think that recent edits from me and other contributors have helped make this article significantly more NPOV. --Rahzel 22:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Picture

 * Well, one of the major issues with the article was distingusihing this from DDR, but I belive the article needs some work. What's with the ITG2 cabinet in the ITG1 article? I moved it to the ITG2 article and replaced it with Image:Itgbox.jpg. Also, I agree. We should split the article into each port, hence the split template I'll put up. --LBMixPro<Sp e ak 09:27, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
 * In response to your comment about the ITG2 cabinet, the image was originally the same one you posted. My reasons for switching it to the ITG2 cabinet: 1) In The Groove is an arcade series that has been ported to the Playstation2, thus the "defining image" for the article should be an arcade cabinet, not a PS2 box. 2) The article is about the series, not about any individual game. The PS2 box is an individual game. 3) The image should be of an In The Groove cabinet, not a DDR cabinet converted to run In The Groove. 4) Every ITG dedicated cabinet in existance runs ITG2. Thus the reason why there's an ITG2 cabinet. I'm going to be bold here and change it back. Perhaps there should be a separate In The Groove (PlayStation 2) article.-Chardish 22:19, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I think the ITG1 logo be a good replacement, since ITG1 and ITG2 are two separate products with two separate articles. It just seems weird to have an image of a separate product on the article. If we're to split the article into different parts, we need to take the time to break down what goes into what. Most of the content in ITG arcade is the same as ITG home version, other than the system and peripherals. If there was an article about ITG home, would it grow above stub status? Should there be a comparison article (if there isn't already one) which compares features of arrow-based dancing games? (This post was met with an edit conflict, so I didn't read the below section yet.)--LBMixPro<Sp e ak 22:48, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

My point is that the ITG cabinet is the "product", and it's certainly a better represenation of what ITG is than either a logo or a PlayStation 2 game box. The fact that the marquee says "In The Groove 2" is largely irrelevant - the Beatmania IIDX article shows a 5th Style machine, and the Pop'n Music article shows a Pop'n 7 cabinet. In The Groove is the name of the series - the fact that the first release in the series shares the same name is largely irrelevant. Since we're talking about the series, who cares what version of the game the cabinet is? -Chardish 15:57, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree, I think much of the article is just trying to prove why ITG is better than DDR. I think that kind of subjective discussion should be sidestepped. Also, the information in the grading should be better placed.

Article split?
I wholeheartedly support the disambiguation of this article. In my edits I've tried to focus mainly on the ITG series in general, leaving the specifics of individual games and their lists to various other pages. The following ITG-related pages currently exist:

 * In The Groove song list
 * Pump It Up: In The Groove 2
 * Pump It Up: In The Groove 2 song list

I propose the following pages:

 * In The Groove (game series) - what this article should be renamed to. Discusses the whole series and game mechanics, with specific respect to the original arcade releases
 * List of songs in In The Groove games (in keeping with naming convention, this singular list could cover both ITG1 and ITG2 in separate sections, denoting special ITG2 songs that appear only in the home version of ITG1)
 * In The Groove 2 - the game's name is "ITG2" according to Roxor [] []. "Pump It Up" is a brand name that appears on cabinets manufactured by Andamiro, and is not the title of the game itself.
 * In The Groove (game) - article to discuss ITG1, with emphasis placed on the original arcade release
 * In The Groove (PlayStation 2) - article to mainly discuss differences between arcade and PS2 versions

-Chardish 22:46, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

 * The integrated ITG songlist a good idea, since ITG2 incorporates the entire ITG1 songlist. IMO, the title for the list should be better. Although I'll concur with the naming convention. But what about the comparisons between ITG and DDR? Do we have any sources which would support the PIU:ITG2 title? What about a category:In The Groove game series?--LBMixPro<Sp e ak 22:57, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
 * We don't need the word "game" in the category name: there is now a Category:In the Groove series that has the same name style as Category:Dance Dance Revolution series. —Lowellian (reply) 12:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I thought "songs in In The Groove" sounds awkward to the ear, too: however, the only alternative I can think of without being wordy is "songs from In The Groove." This wouldn't really be an accurate list due to the licensed music in the game that wasn't written specifically for the game - that can't be considered "from In The Groove" because ITG isn't its origin. As for the DDR/ITG thing, there's already an article Comparison of panel-based music video games which should cover the differences on neutral ground - listing the differences in either the DDR or ITG article only is POV; listing them in both is redundant. The category is definitely a sound idea if we're going to have a structured group of pages about this topic. -Chardish 14:41, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I think there should really be a lot more consistency among dancing game articles. Usually, the authors of the articles know a fair bit about other dancing games, so it makes sense to have them styled in the same way.  The DDR articles seem to be far more structured for the most part and, I think it would take a giant step toward reducing confusion about dancing games.  This would also reduce the need for a description of differences and similarities between ITG and DDR because a viewer could just look at the other dancing game pages and figure out the differences for him/herself from a more objective standpoint.  As messy as the situation is now, think about what it will be like as more dancing games hit the market, most notably neon fm. I also think a better idea for the song list would be to have an article called List of songs in dancing games or Soundtracks of dancing games or even List of soundtracks of dancing games.  This page could in turn have links to "List of songs in" or "Soundtrack of" articles for each dancing game series with the sections for each game.  Also, do we really need separate sections for the PS2 version?  What if Roxor decides that a future version will be released on all console platforms, and maybe even a computer platform.  I'm all for disambiguation, but if articles are split too much, then it becomes much harder to search for information because it is scattered.  Anyway, just a few thoughts.  I am not too familiar with all of wiki's special naming and style conventions, but I have a couple friends who are, and I could probably help reshape these articles--Emuboxer 18:33, 19 December 2005 (UTC)Emuboxer
 * I also think the articles should be split, seeing as how In The Groove shows an overview of the game while In The Groove 2 is based off the 2nd version of the series. ITG1 should have its own page--216.26.203.232 23:53, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Is "The" capitalized or not?
The article says "In The Groove" but it was moved to this title for some reason. Should it be moved back? ··gracefool |☺ 23:27, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

The official name for the game is In The Groove with "The" capitalized. It may seem different, but that's how it is supposed to be presented. I've done my best to revert situations where people decapitalize all of the "In The Groove" statements before, but I'm not well-versed enough in Wiki editing to trust myself to change the title. :) Plaguefox 01:56, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Moved. ··gracefool |☺ 06:16, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, it is actually "in the Groove" if you look at the box and banner.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.224.166 (talk • contribs) 16:36, May 17, 2006

 * The logo clearly says "in the groove", all lowercase, so contrary to the above claim, the official name clearly does not have "The" capitalized. Also, according to Manual of Style (trademarks), "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment". Therefore, I am moving this page back to "In the Groove (game)". —Lowellian (reply) 11:53, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

 * To quote Manual of Style (trademarks), "but, don't invent new formats: MCI is standard, not "Mci"." It was mainly specifying that a title that is completely capitalized (the example being REALTOR) shouldn't be, since that's grating on the eyes.  In The Groove is not grating on the eyes, makes perfect sense, and is endorsed by the creators and fans of the game.  Plus, in the Groove is frustrating as it doesn't look like a proper noun with the first word being entirely lower-case.  Yes, the banner has lower-case, but look ANYWHERE where somebody says "In The Groove" and you'll find it in no-caps or all-caps (due to laziness and stupidity) or it'll appear like I said it. Edit: I won't change it since I'm horribly inexperienced and not even using an account, and I suppose the idea should be kicked around.24.21.71.123 06:36, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

 * The official website capitalizes it. Why don't we just go with that? —Keenan Pepper 03:40, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Law Suit
I may be wrong but the lawsuite is over? -NekoD

As far as I know, nothing has happened as of late with the lawsuit. It shouldn't be changed just yet until there is an official announcement. Wolfman2000 05:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

It's scheduled for February 2007, IIRC. -129.241.93.32 21:08, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd rather not be referred to as "videogame fan" in the external links; although my article is based upon some legal knowledge I know the analysis isn't fully rigid. I'm happy for the article to be linked to but not with an implication it's done by a videogame "fan". Wellian 01:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

It is. I'm about to go update the article. UOSSReiska 02:08, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I think there should be a citation provided for the reference to Konami's Japanese arcade games being illegal. 69.158.7.86 06:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The arcade machine itself says that use outside of Japan is prohibited. No citation needed. Telepheedian 20:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't that be a primary source? -- w L <speak·check·chill> 00:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Sync
The article claims:

 * ITG also has very good synchronisation between the step charts and the background music; a perfectly executed play of any chart in ITG will have steps precisely on a beat within the song. DDR tends to have an early bias in its steps, so a player would have to step a few tens of milliseconds ahead of the beat to obtain a perfect score.

Leaving the DDR issue aside (even though I've never seen this claim anywhere except in this article), isn't it a bit odd to claim this near-perfect sync when Roxor is still changing the sync between patchlevels? (See .) -Sesse 15:52, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I just finished editing this section of the article to make it more factual and accurate. ITGheaven 05:35, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Pointless linking
Why the hell would one link to foot in the gameplay section? Can we assume for a moment that someone speaking sufficient English to read the article up to that point will also know what feet are?

I'll remove the link unless someone can give me a good reason why it should stay. --Bringa 13:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Please be civil, no need getting fired up over something like this. If you feel it's wrong, remove it. If someone disagrees they will either revert it or start a discussion on it. Havok (T/C/c) 14:35, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry about sounding angry; I guess useless linkage one of my pet peeves. I just find it horrible and unprofessional, and it often makes my veins bulge while reading WP articles. I removed it. Still, I wonder what whoever linked "feet" was thinking...

Grading
- I'd like to question the inclusion of the "how many songs on expert have been quad-starred" portion of this article. While i think it's interesting, i feel it falls under the category of "trivia" that doesn't belong in an encyclopedia-style entry. If people are interested in that sort of statistic, they can just go to groovestats and look themselves. i don't think it serves a real purpose here. Darknote 01:56, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Current event
I added the current event tag due to Konami's acquisition of ITG. --Typobox43 02:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

exploits
On a personal note, watching the videos on the exploit site shows they seem to have a load of songs I've failed to find on my sources for stepfiles for Stepmania, such as Elysium by Scott Brown, one I was actually working on myself until I saw this video and learned it's been done. If anyone knows how to contact the makers of the videos or can provide sources for any of the custom songs in the videos, let me know. Coolgamer 23:56, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Adding songs to ITG
Shouldnt their be a section on how to upload songs from your pendrive to the itg machine?

No. While this is legal to do to your own machine, it would encourage others to add songs to public machines, which is illegal.

No, but now that r21 allows you to legally bring in songs (even if you can't put them directly on the machine), maybe there should be a section on that?

See Also/External Links
In the See Also and External Links section are links to a DDR SuperNOVA ranking website. Is this appropriate? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.60.87.126 (talk) 16:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

No, but now that r21 allows you to legally bring in songs (even if you can't put them directly on the machine), maybe there should be a section on that?

Dead
I used to love In The Groove, but we need to face reality now, guys. It's dead. Konami killed it, let them all die a painful death, but we now need to mention that it has ceased to exist. Maybe we can get a leak of what ITG 3 would have been from the stepmania devs. Telepheedian 18:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Konami hasn't said anything either way, and neither have the ITG devs. I doubt it's dead.  Moogy   ( talk )  19:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It's effectively dead, as Konami's injunction against Roxor Gaming more or less guarantees that they'd be sued into a molten puddle if they tried to create another four-panel dance game. Kyle Ward has moved on to a project with Andamiro, making it appear very unlikely that ITG will be returning in any form.
 * Not quite sure what any of this has to do with the article, though. Zetawoof(ζ) 19:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Main image
The original free-use image was badly taken and outdated. However, it is a free-to-edit picture, so I am able to legally modify it. I've tried my best to come up with a better look to it and uploaded it to the Wikimedia Commons, and put it to the article. If the Non-free content didn't apply, I would agree and use the pic Roxor made of the cabinet. The policy says "Always use a more free alternative if one of acceptable quality is available. "Acceptable quality" means quality sufficient to serve the necessary encyclopedic purpose" [emphasis mine]. Unless I'm mistaken, the main image is meant to identify an In The Groove game. When there's free use, there's no use for fair use. The best way to fix the image edit war is to take a picture of an ITG2 cabinet at an arcade and submit it to the Commons, so we can have it. I would have done it myself if there was an ITG machine within reach. -- w L <speak·check> 06:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Wouldn't a picture of an ITG cabinet be more appropriate to this article? A good free picture of a ITG2 dedicab would be good for In The Groove 2, though. Zetawoof(ζ) 07:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It is the upper half of an ITG cabinet at an arcade in California. The original photo only shot the top half of it. w L <speak·check> 09:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I've added a new, FREE USE picture that IMO is better than the previous Free Use picture that was uploaded previously. Let me know what you think.  Rahzel 08:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent! One small problem, though: That's an ITG2 machine. What'd be really nice would be a picture of an ITG1 machine to go here - I've put your new image on In The Groove 2, which had been using a fair-use image. It's still a massive improvement over what had been here, though. Zetawoof(ζ) 22:58, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, that's a good point (re: ITG1 vs. ITG2 cabinet). Unfortunately I don't have any pictures of an ITG1 cabinet, so if anyone else has any (of comparable quality to the current picture), by all means replace the current image with yours!  Until then, let's leave this one up (I'd rather have a good picture of an ITG2 cabinet than a less good picture of an ITG1 marquee).  Thanks, Rahzel 02:05, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I like the ITG dedicab as is. It's more indicative of what ITG machines look like - ITG1 cabinets look like DDR machines with different marquees and stickers. - Chardish 02:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's indicative of what an ITG2 dedicab looks like. But that's not what this article is about - while ITG1 cabinets do look a lot like DDR machines (mostly because they are!), that doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice to have a picture that showed what that looks like. Zetawoof(ζ) 08:54, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Inaccurate Song List
I know for a fact that ITG1 (Arcade) displayed "I Think I Like That Sound" as simply "That Sound". Is there anything else inaccurate in the given song list? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.125.214.39 (talk) 22:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC).

That's not inaccurate; although that was how the song was displayed on the song wheel on ITG1, internally (proof of which is via xml output) the song was known as I Think I Like That Sound, and moreover the artwork displayed it as such and the song wheel agreed; thus it was changed on the wheel for ITG2 to reflect the full title. The different between the song and Breaking Point is that Breaking Point was only known as Pure Hell internally; during testing its name was changed on the wheel and artwork to Breaking Point but not within the machine. Wellian 16:25, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Aerobic Digital?
Somebody added a link to this site to a bunch of dancing-game-related articles. Of all the articles it was added to, this one seems the most relevant, but based on the other pages it was added to I'm considering it an attempt at advertising. As a person in the dancing game community, I've never heard of this system, which leads me to question its notability, along with the fact that it doesn't have its own wiki article. I reverted it, but if anybody disagrees feel free to discuss it. アンジェリーク ★ Angelique 02:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
There is vandalism on two sections of this page, one near the top (you can't miss it), and another in the song difficulties section. I tried to remove it, but it's not even in the edit page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.169.81 (talk) 21:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Rolls
I see nothing about Rolls in the game machnices of IN the groove and i was wondering if you think it would be a good idea to include it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linkmaster 6 (talk • contribs) 16:43, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

 * It's already written, just in a separate article. See In the Groove (series). Zetawoof(ζ) 20:25, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

This is also for Mac!
I just got the game and it says right on the case PC/Mac! I am playing it on PC right now, but I plan on buying a Mac soon. Please some add Mac to the platform list, I would, but I'm not sure how. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djaikou (talk • contribs) 08:44, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I'm not sure how we ended up with In the Groove (video game) and In the Groove (series), but clearly we only need one article for the game. Sadly, there will be no more official video games in the ITG series, so the articles should be combined. --Robertb-dc (talk) 22:53, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * That in of itself isn't a reason to merge. I would agree with you though if I didn't believe that there would be enough information regarding the series as a whole and the first game that the article would get so big someone else would come in and call for a split. And I don't think looking at the size of the articles as they stand now should be the merit for a merge, there's enough potential. æron  phone  home   15:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

 * This proposal is officially dead.  æron  phone  home   18:43, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

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Jaye Amber Radisich (29 March 1976 – 17 March 2012) was an Australian politician. She was a Labor Party member of the Western Australian Legislative Assembly from 2001 to 2008, representing the electorate of Swan Hills. Radisich was the youngest woman ever to be elected to the Western Australian parliament.

Early life
Radisich was born and raised in Perth, Western Australia. At 12 years of age, she was awarded a Citizenship Award from the City of Stirling Council for her all round academic performance and community involvement.

Radisich attended Mount Lawley Senior High School. In Year 12, Radisich was appointed as School Prefect, Caltex All-rounder, and Belle of the Ball. Radisich was also a member of the Senior Debating Team and a participant on numerous committees including the Student Council, Common Room and Amnesty International.

Radisich went on to study arts, law and commerce at the University of Western Australia. Radisich became involved in student politics while at university, and served as a member of the National Union of Students executive, and the Vice-President (Asia-Pacific) of the International Union of Socialist Youth. While at university, she worked two jobs, as a check-out operator at a budget cosmetics chain and a research officer. She was juggling these commitments with the final year of her degree when she won pre-selection to contest the theoretically safe Liberal seat of Swan Hills as the Labor candidate for the 2001 state election.

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Swan Hills was held by a sitting Liberal minister in the Court government, June van de Klashorst, and in the leadup to the poll, there was little sign that she was in any danger of losing the seat. In a major upset, the Labor vote increased enough that Radisich was able to narrowly defeat van de Klashorst with the assistance of Liberals for Forests and One Nation preferences. She became the second-youngest person, and the youngest woman, to be elected to the Western Australian parliament.

She faced re-election at the February 2005 election, and was widely expected to lose her seat, due to the surprise result that had elected her in 2001 and a redistribution that had further slashed her tenuous margin. Radisich herself claimed that "many people" had anticipated her defeat. However, as the election drew closer, some analysts began to predict that she could hold on. These assertions were proved correct when, on election day, Radisich received a swing of more than 3%, and held onto her seat.

Radisich served as Chair of the Economics and Industry Standing Committee from 2005 to 2007. In 2006 Radisich tabled a report on the production and marketing of foodstuffs. The report examined the market dominance of the major retail chains and also analysed issues relating to the health and safety of our food, labelling requirements and the production and marketing of foodstuffs. The committee recommended a new way forward in support of consumer information about the food we eat that is grown, farmed or fished in WA by way of a voluntary state of origin certification and marketing program.

Radisich's parliamentary service culminated in her appointment as Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Energy, Resources, Industry and Enterprise in April 2007. Radisich also served on the Joint Standing Committee on the Anti-Corruption Commission and the Public Accounts Committee during her term.

In the leadup to the 2008 state election, Radisich sought preselection for the new seat of West Swan, a safer seat for Labor than the more marginal Swan Hills. However, after reports stating that she would likely lose in any preselection contest for West Swan to Rita Saffioti, the chief of staff to Premier Alan Carpenter, she announced that she would retire from politics at the next election. Radisich expressed a desire to pursue other ambitions, including post-graduate study and public policy interests at a Federal level. Graham Giffard, a then-sitting MLC, won Labor Party pre-selection for Swan Hills and lost the seat to the Liberal candidate Frank Alban in the 2008 election.

Council of Small Business Australia
In February 2009, Radisich was selected from 160 applicants for the position of chief executive officer at the Council of Small Business Australia (COSBOA). During her tenure, Radisich successfully lobbied to prevent the Australian Federal Communications Minister from extending the "Do Not Call" Register to business numbers. She also oversaw a twelvefold increase in revenue.

Radisich demonstrated a solid track record of working with the private sector as CEO of COSBOA. She formed a partnership between COSBOA, Telstra and the Federal Government to deliver information to small businesses about new, modernised awards following the introduction of the Fair Work Act in July 2009.

Radisich resigned from the position in May 2010.

Initial diagnosis
In 2002, during the early months of her first parliamentary term, Radisich was diagnosed with adult wilms tumour, a rare form of cancer. She had the kidney containing the tumour removed and continued to work as a member of parliament while undergoing subsequent chemotherapy.

Secondary diagnosis
In November 2010 Radisich was again diagnosed with a wilms tumour in her remaining kidney. Radisich underwent surgery to remove the tumour while preserving her kidney, followed by a course of chemotherapy. Radisich was informed that no further treatment for the cancer was required in June 2011. A routine scan conducted in October 2011 revealed that the cancer had aggressively returned and she was informed that surgery and cancer treatments available in Australia would not remedy her condition, only prolong her death.

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The alternative treatments in China ultimately proved unsuccessful. The cancer continued to spread and Radisich succumbed to her condition at approximately 11 am, 17 March 2012, aged 35.

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Threats and current eruption
I put in a note about the current eruption. Besides putting in one more reference and putting one reference inline, I also deleted the recent addition of "very high threat". If that claim can be sourced, then put it back in, but it's important to note that the threat score deals not just with how likely an eruption is, but also what damage it might do when it happens. Just because the volcano is erupting now doesn't necessarily mean that its threat class has jumped to "very high," although that is certainly possible. (For example, in the cited report, there is a volcano, Anatahan, which has a lower threat score than Pavlof, but was erupting at the time of the report.) -- Spireguy 22:20, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Pavlof Eruption ending?
http://www.avo.alaska.edu/activity/Pavlof.php

Eruptive levels are null for the time being. Satellite observations no longer detect High Temperatures in the Pavlof Crater. Aircraft flying in the area say the Volcano appears to have gone back to sleep. Anyway hope the link I gave is useful and for now, Pavlof is Aviation Code YELLOW and the Volcano Alert Level has been changed to Advisory as of 28 May 2013AD. Looks like this eruption went from 13 May 2013AD to 28 May 2013AD. Hope this info provides useful for the Editors Magnum Serpentine (talk) 21:15, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

March 2016 Eruption
I added info to the volcano's history with a source ("the volcano stopped emitting ash clouds on March 31, 2016"). I took out the phrase "continuing as of March 29, 2016" since the volcanic activity has stopped for now. I clarified what a "Red" warning level means. And I added links to the following wikipedia pages: Alaska Volcano Observatory, United States Geological Survey, and Cold Bay. TA2016 (talk) 09:40, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

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List of plant species
Available here Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:34, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Cave-adapted species
This source may offer information on a species here. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:33, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Report draft
If there is a final version of this report (website says it's a draft) it could be useful. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:16, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Contemporary newspapers
Didn't include any contemporary newspapers, but if folks want them here is a list. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:37, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Aniakchak II date
Huge thanks to @Jo-Jo Eumerus for expanding the article. I would like to add that Aniakchak II is securely dated to 1628±1 BCE using dendrochronology, which eliminates any age uncertainty. The date 1623±4 BCE, reported by Pearce2017, was based on GICC05 calibrated against the IntCal13 curve. This carried over the uncertainty of the calibration curve. This uncertainty was resolved when sulfate spikes from the 17th century BCE perfectly matched dendrochronology-dated tree-ring anomalies. The tephras in one of the sulfate spikes were geochemically linked to Aniakchak II.

Now the date 1629 BCE is used to anchor GICC21. Aleral Wei (talk) 05:29, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Sometimes I really wonder if the problem with dating Thera is the overreliance on just one dating technique (radiocarbon) for every sample. Has anyone ever tried non-radiocarbon methods like argon-argon or surface exposure dating? For that matter, do we have a sure idea how long it took? Sorry, back to Aniakchak, I've put that date in. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:04, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

 * The debate just revolves around whether the eruption occurred within a few decades before or after the accession of Ahmose I (ca. 1560 BCE), marking the beginning of the New Kingdom. Among all the techniques of radioisotope dating, only radiocarbon comes close to this level of precision for Holocene samples (in the case of Ar/Ar, too young to decay enough 40Ar to be measured with meaningful accuracy). With luck, WMD dates may have sub-decadal uncertainty, but the samples found in the volcanic layer are olive branches, which are unsuitable for WMD.
 * Ice core or dendrochronology holds more potential. Thus far, no Thera tephra has been located in any core, and no tree-ring event has been unambiguously identified as originating from Thera. Frankly, we are stuck. Aleral Wei (talk) 20:52, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I figure that the problem with the ice cores is that if Thera was a phreatomagmatic eruption, water would have scrubbed most of the sulfur and altered the climate response á la Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai. A Hunga Tonga-like explosion might also explain the tsunami-mass contradiction noted here, too. But I don't think we have much knowledge on how to spot Hunga Tonga-like eruptions from ice cores. Sorry, I think I should continue on Talk:Minoan eruption. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:01, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Settlement dates

 * The Alaskan Peninsula was settled about 7,000 years ago by people who practiced hunter-gatherer lifestyles.

The cited source is from 2007, which in turn cites anthropologist David Damas in a document from 1984 for the claim on p. 23. (Clark 1984). This means that the dating is at least 40 years old, but likely much older than that. My understanding, and I could very well be wrong in this instance, is that within the last ten years, all of these settlement dates have been pushed back much farther in time and a lot of the history has been or is being completely rewritten. At first glance, based on recent sources, 7,000 years sounds far too recent. Our article on Paleo-Indians indicates that the dating fluctuates wildly, and I've seen dates as old as 30,000 years in other works, although it isn't clear how that applies to Alaska in particular. It might be instructive to look into this at a future date and see if there are any newer sources on the settlement dates. Viriditas (talk) 22:30, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

 * I'm afraid that Alaskan population history is not my specialty. But it wouldn't surprise me if that date has been superseded since then; consider that Monte Verde goes back to about 14,500 years ago and the people there must have at some point passed through Alaska. It's just that I can't find a source on the Alaskan Peninsula from a quick read. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * That's fine. I was reminded of the recent dating controversy of White Sands fossil footprints, which skeptics tried, but failed, to shoot down.  It's now thought to be dated to between 21,000 and 23,000 years ago.  I also read something similar about other finds in California.  My understanding is that if you tried to show this, in let's say 1984, people would have laughed you out of the room.  I'm just saying there's been a sea change in the acceptance of older dates in North America over time.  Another point that I've observed, is that even though there's always going to be discussion about the accuracy of dates, my reading of older textbooks on this subject tells me that scientists in the 20th century were far more hesitant to think in terms of deeper time than they are today. I recall reading about at least one famous professor at the University of California, Berkeley in the early part of that century who held the study of Ohlone people back for decades due to his control of the department and influence.  Sometimes the greatest threats to scientific advancement and understanding come from within because people are entirely unwilling to change their beliefs when new evidence arises. Viriditas (talk) 20:47, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Vegetation growth

 * vegetation growth was slow for up to a century at 1,100 kilometers (680 mi) from the volcano

Is this true, though? Ecologists were surprised to discover how fast vegetation grew back in the wasteland left behind by the Mount St. Helens eruption. And on the Big Island of Hawaii and elsewhere, it's remarkable how fast plant life gets going provided there is wind dispersal and rain. Something tells me this is wrong. Viriditas (talk) 23:04, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

 * On second thought and deeper reflection, a century of slow plant growth seems like a reasonable statement given the magnitude of the destruction. Viriditas (talk) 23:11, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Bullet points
Fantastic work on this! One thing, and I don't mean to be intrusive. I would suggest removing the bullet points in the hazards section. It's a bit listy. This otherwise looks comprehensive enough for FAC at some point. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

 * Mm, thing is that it's a list of different hazards. I don't like passing off a list as a not-a-list, it reads off. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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Outback Highway

The Outback Highway or Outback Way is a series of roads and dirt tracks linking Laverton, Western Australia and Winton, Queensland. At 2719 km, it crosses Central Australia (colloquially known as the Outback), passing through Western Australia, the Northern Territory and Queensland.

Proposed upgrade
It has been proposed as a development to provide an inland route between southern Western Australia and northern Queensland as an alternative to the National Highway 1 along either coast.

Roads that make up the highway are:

 * Great Central Road
 * Gunbarrel Highway
 * Lasseter Highway
 * Stuart Highway
 * Plenty Highway
 * Donohue Highway
 * Kennedy Development Road

Support for the project is strong amongst local government areas along the route and elsewhere. The project has secured over $400 million in funding; 80% Federal funding and 20% from the Western Australia, Northern Territory, and Queensland governments. As at June 2021 there is 1200km to seal.

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Talk:Augustine Volcano

Ash plume heights should be measured in units of feet
Ash plume heights should use units of feet because aircraft flight levels use units of feet. It will be easier to compare ash plume heights with aviation flight levels if they use the same units. Since the metric terms are probably of use to geologists, they should be left in as conversions, following the British units, according to the second rule in Manual of Style (dates and numbers) that says use the source units first and the converted values second. RPellessier | Talk 11:04, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

wording of lead
I'm no geologist, but the wording of the first sentence seems a bit off. "Augustine Volcano is a Lava Dome Complex on Augustine Island " The volcano is the island, there isn't anything more to it. Not sure how else to word it or if there is some scientific reason that it should be worded the way it is now. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:10, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

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CNN source removed for 2006 eruption forecast
An older revision of this page included a reference to CNN about a forecast of the 2006 eruption. The page no longer exists on the CNN website and Wayback Machine does not have an intact copy of the page (it only has "page not found" versions). I therefore removed the following in my latest edit to the page:

 * In mid-December 2005 a sulfur dioxide-laden plume of steam, hundreds of small earthquakes and a new coating of ash over its currently snow-clad peak, taken together, suggested that Augustine was building to a new eruption, likely in 2006.

I replaced it with citations from a USGS paper. RedWolf (talk) 20:42, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Article issues

 * There are dates, and even specific times on some of those dates ("Eruptive activity" section), that is not sourced. As a listed B-class article the criteria (#1) states: The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited. -- Otr500 (talk) 15:59, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

 * And you believe those times and dates are "likely to be challenged"? Beeblebrox (talk) 18:31, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, It is possible. I looked to see where they came from and mentioned it. My endeavor is not just reading articles that I love to do. A bot started elevating all project classifications to match and I noticed that all one had to do was promote one project and they would all eventually be promoted. This looks good for Wikipedia but if an article does not meet the criteria it should not be promoted.
 * Specific times to the minute are unique and came from somewhere. Please note that it is not just content that is likely to be challenged but also that any "important" material should be cited.

 * Other issues:
 * B-class articles should "reasonably cover the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies". It seemed short since it is the most active volcano in the region (most active volcano of the eastern Aleutian arc), with a long recorded history, and "could" be better sourced. If we are going to go into detail on "some" of the material we should follow that line on all like material where available. The "2005-2006" subsection (2nd paragraph) states: "The volcano erupted on January 11, 2006". An NBC news source gave a specific time of "4:44 a.m." that can be used. The USGS source (chapter 1) has 38 pages with no page number provided in the citation.
 * An important criterion, however, is that "Readers are not left wanting" (#3). The timeline of 1883 was mentioned and there is geological history information for that, the 1935 eruption, and likely others since they are considered major events.
 * Content in the body of the article currently seems geared more toward the "2005-2006" eruption. Although the "official" name is Augustine Volcano it is also known as Mount St. Augustine and the Alaskan official website refers to it as Mount Augustine Volcano. I also found sources that give the Russian name for the volcano. Some important encyclopedic information might also include that the location was named by Captain James Cook on May 26, 1778, which is St. Augustine's day.
 * If the article is in need of expansion then it is questionable if it qualifies for B-class. If I get the time I might see if I can work on it. -- Otr500 (talk) 05:10, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

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Kanjira

The kanjira, khanjira, khanjiri or ganjira, a South Indian frame drum, is an instrument of the tambourine family. As a folk and bhajan instrument, it has been used in the Indian subcontinent for many centuries.

The Kanjira's emergence in South Indian Carnatic music, as well as the development of the modern form of the instrument, is credited to Manpoondia Pillai. In the 1880s, Manpoondia Pillai was a temple lantern-bearer who sought to study drumming. He modified the kanjira to a frame drum with a single pair of jingles and brought the instrument to a classical stage.

It is used primarily in concerts of Carnatic music (South Indian classical music) as a supporting instrument for the mridangam.

Construction
Similar to the Western tambourine, it consists of a circular frame made of the wood of the jackfruit tree, between 7 and 9 inches in width and 2 to 4 inches in depth. It is covered on one side with a drumhead made of monitor lizard skin (specifically the Bengal monitor, Varanus bengalensis, now an endangered species in India), while the other side is left open. The traditional lizard skin is prohibited worldwide due to protection of species regulations. Even well-known Kanjira players, however, attest to the great advantages of using goat skin as an alternative. After playing for a while, the goat skin gets more and more flexible and offers a wider range of possible modulations. The frame has a single slit which contain three to four small metal discs (often old coins) that jingle when the kanjira is played.

Play
The kanjira is a relatively difficult Indian drum to play, especially in South Indian Carnatic music, for reasons including the complexity of the percussion patterns used in Indian music. It is normally played with the palm and fingers of the right hand, while the left hand supports the drum. The fingertips of the left hand can be used to bend the pitch by applying pressure near the outer rim. It is not tuned to any particular pitch, unlike the mridangam or the ghatam.

Normally, without tuning, it has a very high pitched sound. To get a good bass sound, the performer reduces the tension of the drumhead by sprinkling water on the inside of the instrument. This process may have to be repeated during a concert to maintain a good sound. However, if the instrument is too moist, it will have a dead tone, requiring 5–10 minutes to dry. Tone is also affected by external temperature and moisture conditions. Performers typically carry a couple of kanjiras so that they can keep at least one in perfectly tuned condition at any given time.

Depending on dexterity, surprising glissando effects like on the Tabla are possible.

Nepal
In Nepal the Kanjira is called Khaijadi (खैंजडी). The country has a variety of tambourines besides the Khaijadi, including the Daanf, Damphu (डम्फू) and Hring.

The instrument is used in dances and chants at festivals.

One example are the Khanjadi bhajan (खैंजडी भजन), hymns sung in the Chhetri-Brahmin society. It is customary to sing this khanjadi bhajan in the Kathmandu Valley as well as in most parts of the eastern hills. Most of the performers are from the regional Brahmin community, but all castes are entertained as spectators and listeners. The event includes dancers dancing in pairs while Chudka hymns are sung by the musicians and audience. The event uses Puranic Hindu scriptures. This type of hymn uses a mixture of both verse and prose. At the beginning, part of the story is presented in prose. Then the lyrical hymn begins. To sing a hymn, one has to study the religious texts extensively and be able to give it its original form. The voice of the psalmist should also be such that it can attract everyone. In the same way, there should be singers who can play the khanjadi used in the psalms skillfully and know how to dance.

Players
[B.N. Chandramouli]]
 * G. Harishankar
 * V. Nagarajan
 * C. P. Vyasa Vittala
 * Bangalore Amrit
 * B. Shree Sundarkumar
 * V. Selvaganesh
 * Swaminathan Selvaganesh
 * A.S.N.Swamy
 * B.S. Purushotham
 * G. Guru Prasanna
 * N. Ganesh Kumar
 * S Sunil Kumar
 * Nerkunam Sankar
 * Anirudh Athreya
 * Hariharasharma
 * KV Gopalakrishnan
 * Sunaad Anoor
 * [[kadirvel]

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Talk:Mount Blackburn

Global warming comment
The following unsigned comment was added to the page itself, so I'll put it here on the talk page. -- Spireguy 20:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Although global warming has been imperically proven to be true in theory and reality, the last sentence of your definition seems inadequate. Global warming has not and will most likely not be an impetus behind change in route of a given approach or climb.  That is simply too broad a defintion.  For instance, if you are referring to global warming causing the melting of a neccessary snow bridge, ice vein or fluting, then it would be more appropriate to consider saying that the route simple had melted out.  Short of a geologic episode (like an earthquake) that can we quantified by scientific measure and has been recorded as such, it is inappropriate to attribute and mountaineering route change to the effects of global warming without more in depth reasoning and explanation. -- (Unsigned)

 * Point well taken. I responded by deleting the assertion about the current state of the East Face route entirely, since I can't find a reference to it in my sources. If anyone wants to put in a better-sourced description of that route and what condition it is in, feel free. -- Spireguy 20:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I also did some cleanup and additions to the rest of the article. I did leave in some language that may still be a little POV without better support, e.g. "heady exploit," but IMO it's OK. -- Spireguy 20:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

We have a problem . ..
I have just discovered that the original version of this article from 21:24, 27 November 2004 by L Durnan was copied verbatim from a page on Gerry Roach's website: Alaska’s Summits 13,000 feet and above, see notes 10 & 11 at the bottom. So we have to delete those parts of the article, or rewrite them completely and reference a source properly. This text is in paragraphs 4 & 5 of the current article, and included the "global warming" comment referred to above.

Unless someone wants to rewrite those paragraphs, I'm going to delete them completely. Then I'll write some new, much briefer replacement text about the two summits.

I guess the bold Wikipedia warning, "Do not copy text from other websites without permission. It will be deleted" may actually be true, eventually. Sometimes it just takes 2 1/2 years for someone to actually delete it. --Seattle Skier 03:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

 * That's too bad. However you don't have to completely delete the information. Instead use it as a source (I would say Roach's site is pretty decent as a verifiable source, although not ideal perhaps) and rewrite the most important parts of the info. Of course more sources are better, and you don't want to just paraphrase. But I can certainly add some from other sources once you put in a basic replacement. Or I can do the replacement to start off. -- Spireguy 02:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

 * I'd be happy if you do it, as I'm working on other areas right now. I'll look at this article again in a few days (or sooner). Thanks. --Seattle Skier 01:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Mount Carlisle

Name origin?
How did this mountain get its name? I'm guessing that, like some other Alaska mountains, it was named for a 19th century U.S. politician, perhaps U.S. Secretary of the Treasury John G. Carlisle, but I can't find any documentation for this. Kestenbaum (talk) 19:37, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Mount Cleveland (Alaska)

Name
What is the origin of the name "Mount Cleveland"? Was it renamed after US President Grover Cleveland? If not, who or what? Wondering, -- Infrogmation (talk) 02:30, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Try to check USGS GNIS. - Darwinek (talk) 08:44, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I have added the name origin and added it to WP Arctic, Islands, and Geography--Av9 (talk) 15:08, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Note
User:Ucucha made two changes, Eruptive history: trans-Atlantic flights don't usually reach Alaska. He might be wrong. I think the flights between East Asia and Western Europe fly over the Aleutian Islands. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 07:25, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Such flights are not trans-Atlantic, I believe. To be trans-Atlantic, they have to, you know, fly over the Atlantic. Ucucha 12:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. You seem to be right. I checked on a globe with a thread. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 13:40, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Mhm...Res Mar 00:18, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

"concave-up" shape
What is the usual English-language expression for the impenetrable "concave-up" describing its shape?--Wetman (talk) 14:46, 5 May 2013 (UTC) /-.____.-\ /          \ /            \ "bowl-shaped"
 * I'm not sure what you mean by "impenetrable concave-up", but here are two possibilities:

_.._  /        \  /          \ /            \ "dome-shaped" I would say "concave-up" and "bowl-shaped" are the same, but it doesn't look "impenetrable" to me. I would use "dome-shaped" for an "impenetrable" shape. Johnson487682 (talk) 19:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

The oposite of concave is convex. Senor Cuete (talk) 17:07, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Real time monitoring of Mt Cleveland by AVO
From the AVO email on Mt. Cleveland

Mount Cleveland is currently monitored with a five-station real-time seismic network. We now have enough stations at the volcano to locate volcanic earthquakes thanks to a partnership between AVO and the AVERT (Anticipating Volcanic Eruptions in Real-Time) project at Columbia University. Based on past events, explosive eruptions of Cleveland may occur with little or no warning. Rapid detection of an ash-producing eruption may be possible using a combination of seismic, infrasound, lightning, and satellite data. 199.247.32.17 (talk) 18:39, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Yestersol

This article was listed on Votes for deletion and the consensus was to redirect to Time and date and astronomy on Mars: see Votes for deletion/Yestersol

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User:Humus sapiens/draft

Children and minors in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

Since the start of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, violence has been employed by both sides. Sometimes, children and minors were unfortunate victims and sometimes, perpetrators of the violence.

Using statistics
Given the fact that violence against children evokes natural emotional response, casualty statistcs and methods deviate to a great extent depending on the source:

 * International Policy Institute for Counter-Terrorism (ICT) based in Herzliya, issued report The al-Aqsa Intifada – An Engineered Tragedy (summary) that "provides a breakdown of those killed by age, gender, and combatant status" and says that frequently "...numbers distort the true picture: They lump combatants in with noncombatants, suicide bombers with innocent civilians, and report Palestinian "collaborators" murdered by their own compatriots as if they had been killed by Israel." "Palestinian fatalities... have been consistently and overwhelmingly (over 95 percent) male." (full report) ([criticism])

 * The Amnesty International: report Israel and the Occupied Territories: An ongoing human rights crisis: "The human rights situation in Israel and the Occupied Territories continues to deteriorate. Some 2,500 Palestinians, most of them unarmed and including some 450 children, have been killed by the Israeli army and more than 900 Israelis, most of them civilians and including more than 100 children, have been killed by Palestinian armed groups since the start of the current uprising, or intifada, in September 2000." ([criticism])

 * B'Tselem:, Casualties ([criticism])

 * Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs: Official Israeli statistics since September 2000, before ([criticism])

 * Official PNA statistics based on If Americans Knew ([criticism])

 * Defence for Children International Palestine Section: Status of Palestinian Children's Rights ([criticism])

Before the First Intifada
The history of the British Mandate of Palestine was permeated with acts of violence against civilians, often including children. Some examples of such violence:
 * Arab: Jerusalem pogrom of April, 1920, Jaffa riots of 1921, Hebron massacre of 1929, Black Hand (group), Great Arab Uprising of 1936-1939.
 * Jewish: Irgun, Lehi (group), Deir Yassin massacre (1948). As a result of Qibya massacre (1953) and Kafr Qasim massacre (1956), the Israeli Supreme Court made a landmark ruling on the obligation of soldiers of the Israeli Defense Forces to disobey manifestly illegal orders.

The first acts of Palestinian violence specifically targeting Israeli children were committed in the 1970s. See Ma'alot massacre, Avivim school bus massacre, Kiryat Shmona massacre.

The First Intifada: 1987-1993 and Peace Process: 1993-2000
Professor of Georgetown University William O'Brien wrote about active participation of Palestinian children in the First Intifada: "It appears that a substantial number, if not the majority, of troops of the intifada are young people, including elementary schoolchildren. They are engaged in throwing stones and Molotov cocktails and other forms of violence." (William V. O'Brien, Law and Morality in Israel's War With the PLO' New York: Routledge, 1991)

In September 1993, Yasser Arafat gave his word in writing that the Palestinians would never return to violence as a means to achieve their political goals, but between 13 September 1993 and the beginning of the Al-Aqsa Intifada, Palestinians killed 256 Israelis, of whom were ??? children. See also Victim of peace.

In the same period, 44 Palestinian children were killed by IDF soldiers, and another 10 by Israeli civilians. The terrorist attack of February 25, 1994 by Baruch Goldstein was condemned by the Israeli government and by all the organized denominations of Judaism.

The Second Intifada: 2000-present
dershowitz quote ???

Children and minors' participation in violence
The Fourth Geneva Convention forbids the use of any civilian as a shield. (Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, Aug. 12, 1949, 6 U.S.T. 3516, 75 U.N.T.S. 287, art. 28). The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, Art. 38, (1989) proclaimed: "State parties shall take all feasible measures to ensure that persons who have not attained the age of 15 years do not take a direct part in hostilities." The United Nations Security Council Resolution 1261 "strongly condemns... recruitment and use of children in armed conflict in violation of international law." (UN Sec. Council Res. 1261 (1999), art. 3, 8, 13.)

According to the Coalition to Stop the Use of Child Soldiers' 2004 Global Report on the Use of Child Soldiers, there have been at least nine documented suicide attacks involving Palestinian minors between October 2000 and March 2004, "[t]here was no evidence of systematic recruitment of children by Palestinian armed groups. However, children are used as messengers and couriers, and in some cases as fighters and suicide bombers in attacks on Israeli soldiers and civilians. All the main political groups involve children in this way, including Fatah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine." .

According to Israeli security forces, there have been 229 cases of minors involved in militant activity.

Arab journalist Huda Al-Hussein wrote in the London newspaper Al-Sharq Al-Awsat: "While UN Organizations save child-soldiers, especially in Africa, from the control of militia leaders who hurl them into the furnace of gang-fighting, some Palestinian leaders... consciously issue orders with the purpose of ending their childhood, even if it means their last breath." (Oct. 27, 2000, translated by MEMRI, Arab Journalist Decries Palestinian Child-Soldiers Special Dispatch 146, Nov. 1, 2000)

In an interview with the Kuwaiti newspaper Azzaman (June 20, 2002), Mahmoud Abbas also condemned the practice, saying that he opposed "that little children go to die", stating that "[i]t is a horrible thing. At least 40 children in Rafah became cripples after their hands were blown off by pipe bombs. They received 5 shekels [slightly over $1] to throw them" (Quoted in the Jordanian newspaper Alrai).

See also child soldier, child suicide bomber, human shield.

Peace education
Itamar Marcus, director of Palestinian Media Watch, wrote in his report Planting seeds of the next war: The Truth about the Palestinian schoolbooks :
 * "One of the most meaningful gauges of the integrity of a peace process and its likelihood for success is the degree to which the "peace partners" educate towards peace... Instead of seizing the opportunity to educate the future generations to live with Israel in peace, the PA has done everything in its power to teach hatred to young minds."

The Center for Monitoring the Impact of Peace (CMIP) regularly issues reports on the contents of Arab and Israeli school textbooks.

Peace projects involving children and minors
Main article Projects working for peace among Israelis and Arabs

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text: Talk:Mount Douglas (Alaska)

title: Talk:Mount Douglas (Alaska)


text: Talk:Mount Dutton

title: Talk:Mount Dutton


text: Talk:Mount Griggs

title: Talk:Mount Griggs


text: Talk:Mount Iliamna

title: Talk:Mount Iliamna


text: Talk:Mount Kaguyak

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text: Talk:Kanaga Volcano

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Talk:Makushin Volcano

Move?
Shouldn't this be moved to Mt. Makushin? Volcanoes are usually known (in the "proper name" sense) as mountains, are they not? And I've never heard anyone call this Makushin volcano. Unschool (talk) 04:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

 * See [ GNIS]. – droll   [chat]  03:26, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Coordinates
The coordinates need the following fixes:
 * Write here

89.60.169.109 (talk) 15:28, 13 June 2009 (UTC) 53°52'20.51"N 166°56'20.79"W is a little closer

Done. BrainMarble (talk) 21:03, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Elevation?
An elevation of 6,680 ft is supported by the references provided but the topographic map supports much lower elevation (5905 ft).

Other sources:
 * 5906 ft. Alaska Volcano Observatory (probably calculated from 1800 m.)
 * 5777 ft. [ GNIS] using the National Elevation Dataset (which is certainly an underestimate as usual)
 * 5905 ft. Global Volcanism Program (probably from the topo map)
 * 5905 ft. Peakbagger.com (certainly from the topo map)
 * 1829 m: PeakList.com (who knows where it comes from)
 * 1815 m: Bivouac.com

This is just to note this discrepancy. Other sources, especially USGS sites, support 6,680 ft. However the the National Elevation Dataset elevation, which is based on satellite data, is seldom off by 1,000 ft. – droll   [chat]  03:21, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

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text: Talk:Mount Martin (Alaska)

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Talk:Mount Okmok

The Lake
Cool little article. I am curious as to whether "A crater lake once filled much of the caldera" refers to like 50 years ago or like 50 million years ago. Perhaps that could be elaborated on, at least in general terms? - House of Scandal (talk) 14:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Hundreds of years ago. Yes, the article could be clearer; it was the 2400-year-ago eruption that created the caldera (after which it filled with water and then breached the caldera rim draining most the lake.) TaigaBridge (talk) 22:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Just to wonder ...
Will this be in the news? Giacomo DiBenedetto (talk) 17:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's on the front page now. - House of Scandal (talk) 18:00, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Outdated
Although I helped change some bits (e.g. the eruption has ended), I still need help for the part on airflights. Guanlongwucaii (talk) 09:24, 19 May 2009 (UTC)Guanlongwucaii

Buried ice
If it merits a mention (can't find recent sources), here Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:35, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Oxygen isotopes
This paper discusses how oxygen isotope patterns may indicate the existence of multiple calderas and hydrothermal systems. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Okmok II in India
This article is quite vague, but it may refer to the great eruption. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 13:21, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

title: Talk:Mount Okmok