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User talk:Flamingspinach

Welcome!

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia, ! I hope you like the place and decide to keep contributing. Since I see you've already been active here, let me just give you a few links that are always useful as a handy reference guide: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question at the village pump or feel free to ask me on my Talk page. Oh, and just in case you don't already know: to sign your name on a Talk page like I did below, the easiest way is just to type four tildes (~~~~). To customize your signature, look here. And remember:Be Bold!
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 * — Asbestos | Talk  19:21, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the first post! :P I'll make sure to read all of those. Just curious, but what article did you find my username on? — flamingspinach | (talk) 23:56, 2005 Mar 2 (UTC)

New messages!
See, not so lonley now. -- Dbroadwell 01:16, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Heh, I knew that would provoke someone :) Hmm, I suppose I should provide some history for the hypothetical casual reader of my talk page ( @_@ ) - in #wikipedia on Freenode, people were talking about the new messages dialogue, and I commented that I had only seen it once and was a lonely person. :P Er... can't find the new messages template... sorry... — flamingspinach | (talk) 01:20, 2005 Mar 7 (UTC)

C is for
For your rapid-fire anagrammatical intellect (or something like that...), here's a jumbo wikicookie. -- BRIAN 0918  04:05, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Why thank you! :) I shall treasure it. — flamingspinach | (talk) 04:24, 2005 Mar 16 (UTC)

Re:Gmail invites
I totally wasnt aware, thanks! Will maybe sit and do a few off one time!

Selphie 11:08, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) **
 * Thanks - you'd be helping out the internet. :) (For the record, this is in reference to a comment I made in Selphie's talk page about isnoop.net's gmail spooler.) — flamingspinach | (talk) 01:46, 2005 Apr 4 (UTC)

68.169.113.246
You sure can edit my pages.
 * Awesome, will do. (For the record, I had asked 68.169.113.246 (now Admiral Roo if I could edit eir user page for typographical errors.) — flamingspinach | (talk) 20:47, 2005 Jun 7 (UTC)

"test" tag on your page
You asked me about the 'test' tag I added. Sorry, that was my mistake... I misread the page history on a page and thought that you had created it. The history had only two entries, the page creation and a speedy delete. I read them backwards and thought you had created the page when you had added the speedy delete. I realized the mistake and took it off your talk page. Sorry about that! -Gblaz 13:16, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah, got it. Thanks for being vigilant! :P — flamingspinach | (talk) 21:10, 2005 Jun 17 (UTC)

seti
Hey, thanks! I wrote that months ago and completely forgot about the change. Are you a seti person, too? --Mothperson cocoon 12:18, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I sure am! BTW, what do you mean "the change"? AFAIK it is impossible for any domain name to contain an @ symbol... — flamingspinach | (talk) 15:46:44, 2005-07-30 (UTC)

Thanks for that18:54, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

#REDIRECT
Thanks for that 19:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Van der Veer
You tagged Van der Veer for speedy deletion. It doesn't seem to fit any of the speedy delete criteria. Since you used d, rahter than a more specific tempalte, i don't know what you thought the reason was. If you use db and give a reason, or use one of the many specific templates wihich inclue a pre-specified reason, it ius very helpful to admins looking theough the lsit of pages tagged for speedy deletion. DES (talk) 23:34, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I acted in haste. It seemed to me that Van der Veer should be a disambiguation page for various people with such a name, and since Google returns almost equal numbers of hits for "Van der Veer" and "Vandiver", I didn't think that labeling the former as an archaic version of the latter was completely appropriate. Perhaps an adaptation from information at this site would be in order? In any case, do what you think best. Sorry about that. — flamingspinach | (talk) 00:11, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Main Page

 * Sorry, I assumed that HereToHelp was an admin fixing rogue admin action. --WAvegetarian 22:52, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

"Date standardization"
Please read Manual of Style (dates and numbers) before you go through a page and turn all the dates into links again, as you did with Scientology. Specifically, note:

 * If the date doesn't contain a day and a month, then date preferences won't work, and square brackets won't respond to your readers' auto-formatting preferences. So unless there is a special relevance of the date link, there's no need to link it. This is an important point: simple years, decades and centuries should only be linked if there's a strong reason for doing so. See Make_only_links_relevant_to_the_context for the reasons that it's usually undesirable to insert low-value chronological links; see also Manual of Style (links).

-Silence 18:46, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you for pointing this out to me, and fixing my error. I'll keep this in mind for future edits. — flamingspinach | (talk) 17:51, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Curly quotes
The curly qotes around “—All You Zombies—” read better with big type, and distinguish a page where the quotes round the title are intentional from pages created by new users who misunderstand how the Wikipedia search engine works. Susvolans ⇔ 17:53, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Joseph Clayton Carr Deletion
I came across the BS article at the same time. Not sure how to nominate for speedy deletion so I just quickly erased the page and hit save. Must have got your deletion by accident. Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers or mess with your work. Thanks for the heads up on speedy deletion. I am somewhat new to WP so I am still learning all of the ins and outs--Looper5920 06:32, 13 December 2005 (UTC) I had planned on getting rid of it. Just got lazy. --Looper5920 06:52, 13 December 2005 (UTC)Thanks for the reminder to do it.

Re Jayant
Thanks for the clarification.

Ummm... I'm rather embarrassed to see that there was a question for me way up there that I haven't answered in, what, ten months? Just in case you're still dying to find out the answer, I expect I didn't even notice what article you were editing: saw the red link, saw you hadn't been vandalizing, so welcomed you! Hmmm, sounds rather impersonal when put like that. Anyway, I guess I should be more attentive and notice when someone asks me a question...

Hi again, after ten months — hope others here have been more useful than me! — Asbestos | Talk   (RFC)  05:34, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Jayant412
Sometimes I get carried away with enthusiasm for one idea or another, where my skills might not be up to doing justice to the ideas. As always there's lots more I would like to do than I find time to do, and sometimes my POV can take me into dangerous places. User:AlMac|(talk) 07:52, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
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Western Diocese
Hello,

Regarding your recent questions, I have posted His Eminence's biography on behalf of the Western Diocese. If you have any questions regarding this article please feel free to eMail me at sderderian@armenianchurchwd.com

Peace,

Sevag Derderian

Fringe Shift
Can you change where it goes for me? (and tell me what you did) I've edited articles anon for a while and then a little as a reg'd user but that's my first new article and I'm a bit clueless when it comes to using the wiki editing tools. I was hoping I would offend enough english majors into editing it into something a little more presentable! ;) Nemesis75 23:21, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

<3
Leave me a message, will you? :P —Spectere 02:37, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank You

 * I appreciate your intelligent and tempered assistance with this fairly new wikipedia editor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pattersonc (talk • contribs) 2006-01-26 18:57:32

Thank you!
For the speedy vandal reversion on my userpage! Cheers  Ban  e  z  19:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Merge
Oops. I didn't even know the other article exsisted. I'm perfectly fine with an merge. -ZeroTalk 19:58, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

On Copyrights

 * I'm sorry, I added a bunch of articles at once and haven't had a chance to summarize it yet. That's why I left a link.  When I get the chance I'll go through and fix them so I won't quote directly.
 * I understand, I deleted the info from the ones that hadn't been marked as copyright problems. Is there any other way to fix the problem? (sorry again, I'm new with all this stuff.--Torourkeus 21:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism to my userpage
Thank you for reverting the vandalism to my user page. Much appreciated. — Linnwood 22:55, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

HELP
I,m been shocked you blamed me used help to ask for question. I think i not wrong by do that because my ex-helper offer the help warmly. If you not want to help just forget it. You should know Wikipedia is wide hard to found something we want.Aleenf1 06:28, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

St Mungo's Primary School, Glasgow
I don't believe that this warrants a CSD notice as WikiProject_Schools indicates that school articles are to be kept and expanded. There is always a lot of talk generated when someone nominates a school article for deletion on AfD. This article needs a lot of cleaning up and expanding but it is not inherently worthless. The school does exist, according to Google.co.uk.  (aeropagitica)  20:45, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Hello again! I have taken the good advice that you left for me on my Talk page and have attempted to do a NPOV re-write of St Mungo's Primary School. There is a little more information there now than previously and the categories and stubs have also been added.  I would welcome any more comments that you have on this subject.  Regards,   (aeropagitica)   19:58, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You really are most kind with your description of me as an inclusionist, thank you! I hope that we cross paths on future collaborative edits and that the articles emerge improved as a result.  Regards,   (aeropagitica)   22:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Paper Wasp
Hi! Please see my reply at User talk:Arpingstone Thanks - Adrian Pingstone 21:32, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

User:TheEmoEater
Howdy. Was this accidental? android 79  19:49, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
I've awarded you this barnstar for reverting Android79's vandalism on my userpage.

Thank you, --TheEmoEater 19:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

 * That edit was as a matter of policy, rather than as a desire to agree with you. Thanks, but no thanks. (I removed the barnstar) — flamingspinach | (talk) 19:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

It appears that we interpret WP:UP in rather different ways. I figured removal of racist content from a userpage would be a no-brainer, based on that page and on actions I've seen other administrators take. android 79  20:01, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

 * 2nded. --Syrthiss 20:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Flamingspinach, I don't understand why you would help theEmoEater maintain an attack page. That falls well outside the tolerance traditionally accorded to content in the userspace. Bishonen | ノート 20:12, 14 March 2006 (UTC).

 * It's cool. No harm, no foul. android  79  20:16, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

As I noted on Bishonen's talk page:
 * "I hope you're not talking about me with "full-on troll mode" :< Sorry, it appears I had a vast misconception as to the extent of the sanctity of one's own userpage o.o Hope I haven't caused too much trouble! — flamingspinach | (talk) 03:45, 15 March 2006 (UTC)"

Sorry about this mess o.o — flamingspinach | (talk) 03:49, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

No, I just have to be more careful with my pronouns. :-/ android  79  03:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

o
I have usurped the sanctity of your comments page!!! Ahahahaha!! Or something along those lines, you know? -- Moogy 02:23, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
 * o — flamingspinach | (talk) 02:29, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

o Spaceboy~ 01:50, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

o
 * Stop triple spacing comments u n00b 8) — flamingspinach | (talk) 22:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

 * [[File:I-0.svg]]

Oh hi, just dropping a odd Wikipedia tradition on your page...
I happened to read your comment to the edibleOmplaLoompa about hidden Wikipedia traditions. I don't really have a tradition for you, but I have a hidden maintence job you might be interested in: Recently, the developers added a footnote feature to MediaWiki(the software the site runs on). Before that, footnotes were done with two templates ref and note. There are many thosands of pages that need to be translated from the old to the new system. If you're interested, head over to Template_talk:Ref and look around...

Oh, and, in case you haven't heard of it, you do not need to take any pages that need to be deleted to wP:AfD anymore. If you think the deletion will be uncontroversial, use the WP:PROD process instead. Enjoy your time at Wikipedia! JesseW, the juggling janitor 09:57, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

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VandalProof 1.2 Now Available
 After a lenghty, but much-needed Wikibreak, I'm happy to announce that version 1.2 of VandalProof is now available for download! Beyond fixing some of the most obnoxious bugs, like the persistent crash on start-up that many have experienced, version 1.2 also offers a wide variety of new features, including a stub-sorter, a global user whitelist and blacklist, navigational controls, and greater customization. You can find a full list of the new features here. While I believe this release to be a significant improvement over the last, it's nonetheless nowhere near the end of the line for VandalProof. Thanks to Rob Church, I now have an account on test.wikipedia.org with SysOp rights and have already been hard at work incorporating administrative tools into VandalProof, which I plan to make available in the near future. An example of one such SysOp tool that I'm working on incorporating is my simple history merge tool, which simplifies the process of performing history merges from one article into another. Anyway, if you haven't already, I'd encourage you to download and install version 1.2 and take it out for a test-drive. As always, your suggestions for improvement are always appreciated, and I hope that you will find this new version useful. Happy editing! --AmiDaniel (talk) 02:21, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

thx
barnstars <3 Moogy   ( talk )  10:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

sup
CONGRATULATIONS ON LIVING IN SINGAPORE LOL Moogy   ( talk )  16:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * o thx lol — flamingspinach | (talk) 17:53, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * double post — flamingspinach | (talk) 17:03, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

wikEd

Hi, I have seen that you are using the Cacycle editor extension. This program is no longer actively maintained in favor of its much more powerful successor wikEd.

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Articles for deletion/CLOUDS - influential 60's Rock Group - vandalism
flamingspinach old friend don't delete other people's vfd comments.

oh my god.

i mean

tgies 10:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Didn't mean to - fucking edit conflicts :/ hope you fixed it for me like I asked since my connection sucks and it would have taken 5 hours to do so otherwise — flamingspinach | (talk) 10:51, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

CLOUDS
I don't accept your definition of Clouds not being 'notable'. If you read the sources I left at the foot of the page, you'd find all the sources and verification you need. A cursory glance at Amazon. com, both in the Uk and the Usa, will show you who Clouds were. If you checked the Clouds website (www.cloudsmusic.com) as I originally suggested, you'd find yet more articles and references, including the 4 page MOJO Magazine article about Clouds/1-2-3 which credited them with 'The Birth of Prog', and in which, David Bowie describles Billy Ritchie as 'an unrecognised genius'. 'The History of Scottish Rock & Pop' is a BBC book (Guinness Publishing) - there seems ample source confirmation of everything said in the article. Unless the criteria is something completely different than I understand it to be, I don't see how the band can be dismissed as 'not notable'. Please re-check sources, and advise...thank you Matthew.hartington11:34 7 December 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Matthew.hartington (talk • contribs) 11:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

The Crazy 8's
There's been some consolidation -- and, surprisingly, some controversy, over the information in the article about the college band The Crazy 8's. Swing by, give it a look, and if you can source some of that info that was in the older version of the page, well, that would be great. (I've tried sneding an e-mail to the corporation which bought The Gavin Report, to find out what happened to all their chart info, but so far, no luck.)

Thanks!

Jenolen   speak it!  20:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

History of Maharashtra
Hello sir, The site clearly mentions that all materials can be reproduced without permission and we have also included the link back to their website. Mhexp00000 05:35, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

 * A person is blocking me because of his hatred for Maharashtra. I think ToS mentioned in website clearly states it can be used/reproduced.Hope no one will remove it. Donotblkme 05:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

 * ... — flamingspinach | (talk) 06:15, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

child porn
noway! no sr! i am in no way shape or form in to child porn(now i did not say virtual child porn. m like lolicon)
 * saikano
 * down = anti not the slang term down
 * lolicon--Lolicon(Anti Child Porn)Saikano 18:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC) power to the pleco

Welcome!
Welcome Wikipedia user!I wish you best wishes of joy!I am a vegetarian also,there is something in common.I would like to be your friend,so,uh.., if you want drop me a line sometime!Bye!Trampton 11:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

I want to be your friend, too, fs-kun. (^^)b Moogy   ( talk )  13:53, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

o Voretus 18:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Please do not do this again
Please do not put back links all ova muh(my) page cuz(cause) i dont appreciate it ... =] Pretty Ricky aint breakin up yall! yay!! Tam` Tam` =] 21:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

New Category
Just dropping a line on some people to let them know about a new category of Wikipedians I've created--Category:Wikipedians who like Dune. Cheers! Urania3 04:53, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Marking EFS for deletion
You marked EFS (extreme four square) for deletion as non-context and the talk page has a new post contesting this. The mark should definitely be reconsidered. Please at least take a look at the talk page comments. Thank you, GKasparov

Abdallah Higazy
Are you going to delete Abdallah Higazy? If so, why? — goethean ॐ 16:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Hang On Re: Hofstra Academic Units
Please see Hofstra Academic Units talk page for hang on details. Thank you. Mbisanz 03:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Your NPWatcher application
Dear Flamingspinach,

Thank you for applying for NPWatcher!

 Snowolf How can I help? 21:43, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of St Mungo's Primary School
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Talk:Glomp
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. -- RoninBK T C 06:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:Friendly
WP:Friendly is p. good for warning guys and stuff. It works a lot like WP:Twinkle. tgies (talk) 14:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

momfuck.txt
Moogy  ( talk )  17:39, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[ok i removed this it was too fucking long] — flamingspinach | (talk) 02:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

 * o kthx — flamingspinach | (talk) 17:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Dead-Ass Bitches
Bitches in the park

Gonna find it gonna park around it

Waiting for the day when the homies can bank upon it

Bitches say "shit" — they didn't know that I had so much on it

Everybody gonna work up on it

Scrubs up in the blink don't know shit, they can't communicate

Please consult What Wikipedia is not before creating your first article

Gonna make 'em remember, gonna make 'em rue the day

Bitches say "shit" — they didn't know that I had so much on it
 * tgies (talk) 07:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

C-class ratification vote
I would like to draw your attention to Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment, where an additional class on the article assessment scale is being discussed. tgies (talk) 02:12, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for your reminding! 百家姓之四  討論 (Discussion)  03:53, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Pisg
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Kenzan
How is Kenzan not notable???(LonerXL (talk) 13:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC))

Speedy deletion nomination of Ufologist

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 * You canceled your speedy deletion request and decided to redirect the page to Ufology. When I started the article it was a redirect to Ufology. This notice properly belongs on User talk:Vicsinge. — flamingspinach | (talk) 20:32, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

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 * Feel free to start without me. — flamingspinach | (talk) 20:44, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

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title: User talk:Flamingspinach


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Talk:Till Lindemann

"as well as his use of lyrics in songs which have caused controversy, particularly when it comes to Nazism"
Could this be expanded? As it does not discuss the other side of the story; namely, Lindemann denying it multiple times. From a Playboy interview:

''I am fed up with allegations of being a right wing band. My daughter – my dearest in my life – came to me at that time to ask me: tell me, do you play in a Nazi band? At this point I knew we had overstepped a border. That was too much for me.''

http://till-lindemann.skynetblogs.be/archive/2007/11/28/english-long-interview-playboy-january-2006.html

And also:

''We come from the east and have grown up as a socialist. We used either punks or Goths - we hate Nazis! And then there comes such a far-fetched accusations. We still do the same thing, and nobody in America or Mexico would get the idea to us dense stuff like that. This only happens here in Germany. Our response to this hostility was "Links 2 3 4", so we have made it clear where we are to classify politically... We used to fight with these idiots right, and that we would now be done.''

http://rammsteinfangel.blogspot.ca/2011/12/exclusive-interview-with-till-lindemann.html

''The lyrics were written in response to allegations of fascism/nazism directed at the band. In the song they say "my heart beats to the left, 2-3-4", insinuating they are on the left of the political spectrum.''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_2-3-4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.91.159.227 (talk) 04:45, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Source
Heading added to improve layout.--Boson 17:02, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

This article seems to be a series of cut & paste dumps from a fan site. Much comes from here, where the author seems to have released the work from copyright. Much of the information is trivial, without context, and in interviewer/interviewee format, rather than paragraphs. I had to read far down the page to figure out who this person IS. Joyous 19:21, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)

It seems to me the person has only made these bio's as a way of plugging their site. Not all the information is accurate. Alot of it is just speculation.-anon user

This article is entirely my own work, using sources both online and in text. There is very little hard information about any members of Rammstein, not even their own website has any information on them. Yes, I do run a Rammstein website, not the one cited above, that's belongs to a friend; I am a fan, that's how I know about them.

The speculation has been kept down to a minimum, but if every peice of speculation was removed from these bios, you woul have nothing but a date of birth and name...

The sources cited are real, and I can reference them more in depth if required. If you feel they are inappropriate the please remove them -minxfic

Wow this article is poorly written. It's completely disorganized. -anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.196.60.42 (talk) 23:37, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Wrong link
I just tried to click on the link for Placebo but ended up in the meaning of the word instead. Now, for a temporaly setting I linked it to Placebo (band) instead.

Clean up
I have done some editing to improve the layout of the article. I removed some information as superfluous - such as the fact he hasn't been seen wearing glasses (hardly useful).

Wikipedia policy is to use the surname rather than the forename. I have modified the article accordingly.

Lindemann is currently described as crouching like an in-fielder during concerts. The only issue here is that I don't know what an in-fielder is, and I certainly don't know how one crouches! I assume it's an Americanism of some kind. It may be that a lot of other people won't know either. Can anyone think of an alternative? Slinky Puppet

 * I trimmed out some general 'Rammstein' info and moved two of the smaller interview sections to the Quotessection. I also removed the speculation about his children - hardly useful if not verifiable, it's fan site stuff perhaps.

 * I'm trying to get the cleanup removed, but I don't feel justified until I can either properly ref the interview section or deal with it in some other way that works. I may move it here to the talk temporarily just so I can complete the article cleanup. Any opinions? --DanielCD 18:31, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

I changed the "in-fielder" statement because I am not a fan of baseball, and if I didn't already knew what was being referred to, I wouldn't have pictured it correctly (especially since mention of that he hits his /leg/ was not mentioned). I chose to use the verb "squat" since that seems more universal. ~sonatina

Sounds good to me. --DanielCD 02:28, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

I remember Richard Z. Kruspe, one of the members of Rammstein once said in a interview that Till had the worst English. I think this also shines through when he sings in English, so I feel that the statement claiming that he speaks excellent English should be changed or removed. I'll look into it though, and try to find out more.

Hmmmmm... Actually, upon meeting Till Lindemann myself, and seeing various interviews with him speaking in English, his English is actually pretty good. He speaks more of British English than American English. Richard, having lived in the US for many years may see Till's English as bad because he is now used to the abbreviated, broken form used in America. Also, my husband is from East Germany as well, and informs me that Till's English is very good. I'm sure this is probably not a big deal, but I just wanted to add my two cents. ~Elizabeth S.

I removed the statement about Till being with Sophia Thomalla. There exist no accurate sources on the matter, and many are contradictory. Also, the source originally cited for this information actually didn't mention Thomalla at all, so I felt that that was yet more reason to remove the inappropriate statement.

Yes, they have been seen in pictures together--but so have countless other people with Till. The articles announcing them as a "couple" came out on Das Bild, a German tabloid known by many in Germany as one of the least factual, most gossipy, and simply trashy rags around. In fact, Das Bild has always over-sensationalized Rammstein's dark image and has long been one of the publications trying to stir up hate and controversy around the band. When they came out with an article on the Mein Teil music video, Till and Flake went so far as to pose next to a copy of the paper while making funny faces, just to show how "seriously" they took the publication. So I highly doubt that any articles that they published on Till's "new relationship" were anything other than sensationalism to lure in readers, the same as their publication has always been.

This theory of mine is backed up by the fact that only they started this story (no other publications began their own independent reports--other publications that brought up this piece of gossip only did so after Das Bild's article and they always reference it), that there has been no news on this relationship since those articles have been published (and it's been over half a year... Surely if Till was really with this girl, we would have seen them together since then and would have heard more news? Till is quite a prominent figure in his country, after all), and they have yet to be seen non-platonically in any pictures together.

There are two videos with Thomalla in them where speaks about her "relationship" with Till, but her answers make it seem like she is pretending because she says that she knows nothing of the content of his music, lyrics, stage show, his current location (she says that she doesn't keep in touch with him while he's on tour? Really?), or basically anything else. In fact, most Germans know Thomalla as being very dishonest and doing whatever that she can to gain attention and popularity. She comes from a family of German actresses and she apparently doesn't have much talent, so she often resorted to doing whatever she could to get attention, such as taking parts on unpopular and generally looked-down-upon TV shows. She's seen as a sell-out. Also, another article was published in more prestigious newpaper that was written by an acquaintance to Lindemann, who said that the rumor that he and Sophia are dating is false.

Therefore, I think that the only way that such a big claim about Till's relationship status can be made is if we have definitive proof (a statement by Till himself, or photos of Till and Sophia being non-platonic). Any conclusion needs to be based on more than mere hear-say, and definitely not hear-say from sources known to have questionable truthfulness (Das Bild, Thomalla herself).

If anyone would like to further discuss this, please do not edit any of what I have written here on the talk page. Apparently some people here don't know proper talk page etiquette, so if you would like to continue this discussion and contribute more sources, please do so underneath here. Danke schön. Leroset (talk) 21:40, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Interview
These quotes are from original interviews with Lindemann between 1996-2002. For a man who dislikes being interviewed, he gives a lot of interviews, and they are quite interesting and give great insight into his thinking. Some minor editing for clarity has been done, but no content has been changed.

On his inspirations for lyrics/poems
I try to put myself in the mind of certain people: how do some f**ked up situations happen. I want to enter their brain: a space with brightly colored and black and white cobwebbed nooks and crannies, the ones you don't like to come close to because of the mess you will find. I only try to describe, without attacking. I understand that people can be shocked by that.

Only five minutes ago, I read in a newspaper that we incite people to violence. I have read that before, but the reaction that came closest to me was a letter from a girl that had been raped when she was nine or ten years old. She wrote that she could identify with the song Weisses Fleisch - that was also in the index for a short while. I spoke about rape while she couldn't. She had grown up with the idea that she had to keep that period from her youth a secret, and couldn't tell anyone. Through my song, she understood she could talk about it. She was so grateful I had written that song... I still don't understand what people get so excited about.

I have seen in Indonesia what happens to children and prostitutes. And if you would know what happens in this town at night behind the curtains, my lyrics are very innocent. Those little studios and basement steps of the Red Light district, those small S&M shops with cages and whips: how sick is humanity? And in comparison, how little the themes are that I use in my lyrics, or the things I do onstage?

Interviewer: And yet you are obsessed by the things that take place in those little studios and shops because that is what you write about...

That has more to do with the fact that all the other subjects are so dull. It has all been said already! What I hear in German music doesn't grab me by the balls. It is all about love tra la la...

Height
There exist no official height listings for any of the band members. Stop adding them. Whoever is adding them is getting them off of some free site that just added any height they thought the band was. The heights are incorrect. Heights can be scaled from any photograph, since we know how long a certain guitar is in length, or a drum stick or even a microphone... Too easy...--Oracleofottawa (talk) 02:06, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Till Lindemann's height was listed in an article involving him, his ex-girlfriend and their 4 year daughter. To quote the article:

"He's muscular, broad-shouldered. He is 1,93 meters in height and he weighs 83 kilos. On stage, Rammstein's front-man Till Lindemann (42, Angel) loves to use a flame-thrower, performs a brutal show to a gloo-my Metal-sound. Just as hard and as high-handed he acts on stage, he is said to behave in private life. This is what his ex-life companion Anja Koeseling (24 years-old) claims. She informed against him - because of bodily harm! The rock-millionaire doesn't pay enough for his daughter, so she sued him for financial support".

It was originally written in German. Lilijana 02:45, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Where is this article? I've never seen it.

It's located at http://www.DasSchoensteKind.de/BildamSonntagEnglish.htm now unfortunatly, the site no longer exists so to view the article copy and paste that link into the way back machine www.archive.org an click "take me back" which will then give you a list "Search Results for Jan 01, 1996 - Sep 20, 2005 " any of those links

I.e archive march 17th 2003, this link (http://web.archive.org/web/20030317032905/http://www.DasSchoensteKind.de/BildamSonntagEnglish.htm) will take you to that article. Thats one complete link not two, copy an paste with no brackets, no spaces.

As I say, translated from German. Lilijana 00:42, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

This is not an official link,it's just some fansite. It says so clearly on it's main-page. They most likely got the 6'3 from the one fansite it was first on. Which happened to be a Geocities. Till is not that tall. If Till is 6'3 then Ollie must be atleast 6'7. Highly unlikely. I estimate Till's height to be 5'10-6'0. Paul H. Landers is often commented about as being short by the bandmembers, such as in Lichtspielhaus. However the site that lists till as 6'3" lists paul at 5'9(An inch above the Average german height for a male). Why would they call paul small if he's above average height? Not because he's skinny, because most of the members are, Schneider, Flake, Ollie. It's because he is short as in probably 5'5" or so. If Till is indeed 6'3" that would make Paul about about 5'10" or 5'11" not short at all... Which would make no sense. So the whole Till being 6'3"... Ollie being 6'7" paul 5'10"... Not possible.

Actually, thats from an interview, so regardless of what site it is posted on, it was originally posted to a magazine/newspaper. Which are still online, however you can find those yourself.

Actually, according to Wikipedia itself, German men average 180.2 cm (5 ft. 10.94 in.) tall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_height

Also, I don't see the above statements proving the heights "not possible". If Landers is called short by other band members, isn't it only natural, considering the fact that he's the shortest of the band?

These are the heights I've typically found given to the band members – I've searched for metric figures in particular, since they're from Germany. Yes, these are from fansites, so I'm not bothering to give any links.

Till Lindemann 190 cm (6 ft. 2¾ in.) Richard Kruspe-Bernstein 180 cm (5 ft. 11 in.) Paul H. Landers 175 cm (5 ft. 9 in.) Oliver "Ollie" Riedel 200 cm (6 ft. 6¾ in.) Christoph "Doom" Schneider 193 cm (6 ft. 4 in.) Christian "Flake" Lorenz 190 cm (6 ft. 2¾ in.)

These metric heights are often accompanied by incorrect conversions to Imperial units. I'll admit that these seem oddly round figures, save Schneider, and that the average height of the band is rather... high.

So I did my best to find a comparison picture with someone of known height. I found this picture of Lindemann with Vin Diesel, who's 185 cm (6 ft. 1 in.) by his own account. I'd say he's at least close to the claimed height.

http://www.raketa.cz/kama/img/35446_1_55.jpg

It should be noted though, that many suspect Mr. Diesel of rounding his height up.

http://www.celebheights.com/s/Vin-Diesel-71.html http://www.celebheights.com/a/7.html

Hope this was any help.

Actually that average German height being 5'10 is incorrect, it's sources are also sketchy. Here is a more reliable site. http://www.tallpages.com/uk/index.php?pag=ukstatist.php Which lists the average height in germany for males at 5'8".

Also yes... Vin Diesel rounds his height up. Here is a discussion on Vin Diesels height which and they have come to the conclusion based on eyewitness's that he is about 6'0.5" 6 feet one half an inch(I want to mention alot of the people on that site who saw him pegged him at being about 5'10" which is a possibility.)

http://www.celebheights.com/s/Vin-Diesel-71.html See this photograph http://www.rammsteinniccage.com/galleries/group/images/promo/grouppromo_168.jpg Notice Vin is about an inch shorter than Till is. And Vin's height being 6'0.5" that would make till about 6'1.5" not 6'3" which is what was claimed to begin with. But this photograph is also sketchy because schneider appears shorter than till in this shot. These heights....

Till Lindemann 190 cm (6 ft. 2¾ in.) Richard Kruspe-Bernstein 180 cm (5 ft. 11 in.) Paul H. Landers 175 cm (5 ft. 9 in.) Oliver "Ollie" Riedel 200 cm (6 ft. 6¾ in.) Christoph "Doom" Schneider 193 cm (6 ft. 4 in.) Christian "Flake" Lorenz 190 cm (6 ft. 2¾ in.)

Are very inaccurate. Schneider is not 6'4"... If he were that tall he would tower over most people he took photographs with, but when he's in photographs espically with women he does not. Here's a random photograph of him with a female fan. http://www.rammsteinniccage.com/galleries/christoph/images/amateur/christophamateur_012.jpg IF schneider is 6'4" that woman must be atleast 6'1"... Highly unlikely, or maybe all of the rammstein fans are giants too!

So not only do the heights that you listed make no sense... Compaired to known heights of people they just don't add up at all. Not only that... But they come from an unreliable fansite that probably just made up the heights from bad guessing. The following heights make much more sense...

Till Lindemann---6'1.5" Richard Kruspe-Bernstein 5'9" Paul H. Landers---5'6" Oliver "Ollie" Riedel 6'3"-6'4" Christoph "Doom" Schneider 6'2" Christian "Flake" Lorenz 6'0"-6'2"

But these heights are also very sketchy and are probably different, but they are a heck of alot closer than the one's that was posted before.

Are you kidding me, Till is clearly 6' 3". His body is bulit like a man of that size. e.g. he's barrel chested and he has a large head. Not to mention his deep baritone voice which is common among men of that size. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.56.135.2 (talk) 18:57, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Whoever just edited this completly mangled my post.

You are supposed to do it like this, not edit under each of my paragraphs. Now it's hard to tell what I wrote and what you wrote. I can't even read what you've wrote since you've done it all wrong.

The fact of the matter is this... The fansites list the members too tall. There aren't any official listings of heights so putting up the members heights in the article would be pointless. Even when speculating the heights they don't add up to the heights listed on most fansights. I also want to add since zero official listings exist,90% of the fansights copy from one another. Posting german or dutch fansites of all places as a source gets you nowhere,Until official heights are posted there is obviously no way to know for sure what their heights are. Even speculating gets completly different numbers(though mine are closer to reality).

The sites that list their heights also usually list their WEIGHTS... How in the HECK could they know the band-members weights? That's completly absurd. The fact is... It's all speculation. Bad speculation at that.

Also you've failed to show how Paul is anywhere near 5'9". Posting a photo where kruspe is slouching makes no difference. And as far as the schneider photo goes... They are both standing straight enough to guage heights. If they were to stand back to back straight schneider would be about 3 inches taller. And if he's 6'4 she would be about 6'1. Highly unlikely for a woman. Same with the ridel photo. You claim they are not standing straight, in reality they are standing straight enough to guage height (assuming their feet are flat). And as far as the official german height... 1. It makes no difference if it's a german person or not. 2. You're arguing from incrudelity. In reality its alot more reliable than some Japanese site. So im not going to really argue this anymore. Until they post official heights or tell their heights in an interview (theirself), we can not be 100% sure of their height. And the articles on Wiki aren't for speculation... espically when it comes to something as trivial as a musicians height.

My Two Cents As I mention above in an earlier edit comment, I met Till Lindemann. There is no way he is 6'3". I'm always amazed when I read that on these fansites. Yes, German men tend to be taller than American men on average, but my husband is 6'6" and Till is much more than a three-inch height difference from my husband. I would guess he is no more than 6'1" - tops. But this is only a guess. ~Elizabeth S.

DO NOT EDIT THIS FRAGMENT...POST ANY RESPONSES IN A NEW FRAGMENT SEPERATED BY ""

Sorry about the mess, I'm new with this. I deleted my paragraphs now – this was a pointless arguement to begin with. And none of the photos were really any good for this anyway. I'd always thought those stats came from some German music mag, but maybe not. This doesn't still mean I'd agree with everything you've said ;-)

His music
To the person who created "On child abuse, incest, and Rammstein's music":

Please don't be offended by his lyrics, and if you are so, perhaps you should not allow your daughter to listen to it.

Also, please understand that most likely she enjoys Rammstein music for it's sound, not nescesarily (sp?) for it's lyrics.

 * Uh, dude, that whole thing is an interview with Till. Till was the one talking about how if his "daughter be a victim" he'd "cut one of the balls of the perpetrator off or shoot him or something like that" and such. --Der Sporkmeister 00:53, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Picture
Is the current picture in the article an accurate representation of Lindemann's appearance? Shawnc 08:11, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I would say so. -- SoothingR(pour) 10:20, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Yikes. Shawnc 21:39, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
 * In Rammstein's most recent music video (Rosenrot) Till has a brushcut. You can view the music video online (legally!). ~ MDD4696 (talk • contribs) 23:47, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Just adding that Till is one of the hottest men out there. (drool)

Rolled Rs

 * Another is a tendency to roll his sung Rs, which is due to the deepness of his singing voice.

Although it even says so in the quote at the bottom, I'm skeptical of this. How can singing deeply cause your tongue to move from or  to ? --Ptcamn 11:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems to be a gimmick to me. Shawnc 06:45, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

That is what the artcle is referring to when itmentions the Teutonic Rs. he says that it is not delibirate and that it comes on when he tries to sing in a deeper, more powerful way. i heard that in aninterview with Rammstein themselves.--Floydiac 22:06, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Someone edited the article to indicate that the rolled Rs are commone to all Germans. I reworded it to be less caustic, but I don't know if it's even true as written. Until that fact is settled, it should at least be written in a professional way. Aerodave 18:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Trilled Rs are certainly not common to all German speakers! But especially German speakers from the Berlin area. Such speakers do exist, but most German Rs are made at the back of the throat, nearly similar to French. However, trilling Rs have been common practice in choral, symphonic and opera music. ((unsigned))

As I said, it may or may not be true. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than myself should make a clarifying edit. I tried not to change the factual nature of the content (correct or not), I only wanted to remove the unencyclopedic--and mean--opinion statement. Aerodave 03:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

> Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than myself should make a clarifying edit. -- Being German I can assure you that this rolling Rs business is utter bullshit. Most Germans, including myself, are unable to produce a rolling R. People from Bavaria are exceptional in that the rolling R is part of their local dialect/accent, but even there not everyone is able to produce that rolling R sound. Till is using the rolling R to "dramatize" his voice, and it works pretty well if you ask me!

 * Rolling Rs is a basic component of speaking german. It just comes naturally to people.

Also, there is no way Till has "club foot" SIGN YOUR DISCUSSIONS -- mando 16:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Rolling Rs is not very common in Germany, only a few dialects use it. --Oagersnap 17:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Its called "High German" and is how upper-class esp those with Prussian backgrounds speak. Its the same as the differences between the higher and lower classes in England. The French also are known for doing the same (they don't all do their Rs guturally) It's nothing to do with the actual tone of his voice, it IS put on for some of his songs, i.e. Du hast, and isn't in others, i.e. Stirbt nicht vor mir which is a more mainstream duet. Its plainly obvious that it is only done to increase the intensity of the music and lyric, and does it well. Squad'nLeedah 21:01, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

And before I get "I'm German and that's bullshit" comments, watch a few german doco's and movies, modern OR old its plainly bloody obvious that it IS done.

 * Wow. This stupidity is why no one takes wikipedia seriously. Yes, all Germans roll their "R". That is how you pronounce the letter in German. A single beat roll. Similar to Japanese. Germans do not have French "R". lol What Mr. Lindemann does that is unique, is roll the "R" that proceeds a vowel at the end of a syllable. This "R" is usually silent. Similar to the British pronunciation. And yes, as someone pointed out, this is typical of opera. It is a known fact that Rammstein is modern German opera. Even Katarina Wagner agrees.184.155.130.147 (talk) 18:38, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Lindemann's children
I bring into dispute the gender of one of Lindemann's children. It is common knowledge that he has two daughters (Nele, 1985, and Marie-Luise, c.1993) and also a son born c.2000. However, the gender of his other child as well as his/her date of birth are unknown. I recommend that the statement that he has two daughters and two sons be removed and be replaced with a statement along the lines of, "Till has four children: two daughters, a son and a fourth - gender and date of birth unknown". --SaraFL 21:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Chris Isaak and Milk?
Can anyone cite that quote? It sounds kind of suspicious. Col.clawhammer 20:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Eight months and no source or comment. I'm getting rid of it.

Retarded Zombie Move
Does anyone have info about this? Sometimes, as an example, at Mann gegen Mann video, he acts like a spastic Zombie.

Anything worth telling about this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.99.45.79 (talk • contribs).

Water or custard?
The Christian Lorenz page says: "A statement from Sergeant Thomas Radula of the Worcester Police Department stated that Lindemann was simulating sex with Flake onstage "using a phallic object that shot water over the crowd"." (emphasis mine) - so what is it, water or custard? JAL 83.80.81.236 14:16, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Neither. Most concerts used diluted pernot. This however, is beside the point, if the statement says custard the statement says custard.Squad'nLeedah 21:08, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, that's exactly my question, what did the statement read? Two wikipages have the statement different, one saying 'water', the other 'custard'. Which one is it? JAL 83.80.81.236 13:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Olympic swimmer
Can we have a citation for this please. Ive read this claim, and read a reply from Till Lindemann stating this as utter bullshit. He was invited to TRAIN with the olympic team as a benefit of being a junior vice champion. However, i cant provide THIS quotation as since ive read this, all claims for and against this appear to have completely vanished. Squad'nLeedah 21:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

I PARTIALLY take this back. Ive found one quote on Herzeleid.com http://herzeleid.com/en/faq/band#faq7 HOWEVER, its supposedly come from Christoph Schneider, and it has no confirmation or denial from Lindemann. Also, while i actually like the site, and would agree with the translations on it, i dont trust the rest of the content. The award they claim to have recieved apparently reads - AWARDED TO WWW.HERZELEID.COM FOR MORE THAN 1,500,000 ALBUM CDs SOLD WORLDWIDE RAMMSTEIN // HERZELEID UNIVERSAL MUSIC / MOTOR MUSIC BERLIN, DECEMBER 2005 I dont see a website being co-awarded something for a band they are based around selling 1.5 million albums. If it was common practice for a retailer to be awarded for selling x amount of copies of an album they had no hand what so ever in making, Sanity and the like would be the most awarded companies in the world. Squad'nLeedah 02:19, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Harmonica
Could we have some actual verification that it was Christian "Flake" Lorenz playing his keyboard, not Till on a harmonica, in Los?

Either way that section needs rewriting. -anon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.110.157.231 (talk) 02:18, 21 January 2007 (UTC).

02/04/07, changed minor wording from "He has four children: two girls and a boy" to "He has three children: two girls and a boy".

Departure from Rammstein
Something should be mentioned about Till's departure from Rammstein just recently.

I heard it on Triple J earlier today.

There is a press release kicking around somewhere.

 * Here's a link to the Blabbermouth article. Nufy8 14:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

As of 7/16/2007 10:36pm Central, the article described above has been removed from blabbermouth.net. I4eather 03:41, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

It`s a hoax. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.162.158 (talk) 21:44, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Till's first name

 * Is "Diedrich" really Till Lindemann's actual first name?

 * Yeah, is it?? I've never heard that before... Has anyone got a source? --SaraFL (talk) 17:50, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

It isn't. His real first name is Till. Dietrich is the older version of the German name Till. It's like how Al came from Alex. Just because someone named their child Al doesn't make their "real name" Alex. It's Al. Same for Till. Leroset (talk) 21:12, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

A poet?
It's stated at the beginning that he's a poet. I've never heard about it, so could someone clarify it? Or maybe someone meant "songwriter"? Piotr Mitas 15:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Possibly... it's probably best if it's changed to songwriter, if there's no source. ≈  The Haunted Angel  18:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Till Lindemann? He's a lyricist and a poet. But he writes poetry without having poetry as an official profession. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.180.228.186 (talk) 05:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

He wrote a poetry book called Messer ("Knife"). Google for it. It's in German language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.162.158 (talk) 17:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

This is true. And his father was a notable poet also. And his mother was a journalist.Words sort of roll in his family.--Oracleofottawa (talk) 07:41, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Multinstrumentalist?
Instruments: 	vocals, drums, guitar, bass, harmonica... I'm pretty sure he stated he don't know anything about instruments. Besides he is vocalist and lyricist this seems misleading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.100.125.76 (talk) 20:37, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Filmography
Are we including films that people wrote a song (or two) for and did not appear in? Till wasn't actually in "Lost Highway" - he's written two Rammstein songs that were in it. Murdockh (talk) 22:19, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion
I believe that Till Lindemann's article here on Wikipedia is too small for how much information on him can actually be found. Can people (WITH SOURCES) expand this in great amounts so we can have a decently large article for him? Correspond with his article at the German Wikipedia and you'll see a fine example of how much information you can add. May I suggest we create a new section or two in reference to his poetic references in his songs? He writes these songs and so it would be pretty nice to see this on here, along with Interviews or such as to why he chose those lyrics or textual references. Finally, which parts of the article contain original research? I don't suspect anything there to be original research. Burklemore1 (talk) 00:53, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Basket-Weaver
Was he really a Basket-Weaver?119.92.93.84 (talk) 16:51, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

 * Yes 212.111.254.161 (talk) 02:33, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

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Personal Life
It says in the Personal Life section: "Contrary to his musical style, he has stated that he "hates noise"" Perhaps I am misunderstanding something, but this sounds like a subjective description.Thereaverofdarkness (talk) 19:37, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

The Sexual Assault allegations against Till Lindemann are all over the German Press
And reliable ones, we are only describing this an allegation. With regards to the BLP policy I don´t think when Harvey Weinstein was accused of wrongdoing before there was any police investigation into him that Wikipedia was following a strict policy of not mentioning it because he is still alive. StrongALPHA (talk) 10:23, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

 * WP:BLPN notified as I think this is going to require more input. — Czello (music) 10:30, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @2a03:f580:c868:e000:500e:4ed6:fa71:4c90 @Tigana39200 tell everyone else who was interested in taking this down that there´s lots of press about this story. StrongALPHA (talk) 10:35, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * No opinion of whether this should be included or not, but if it is it must be sourced properly. It might be necessary to semi-protect the article. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 21:10, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I told you guys! StrongALPHA (talk) 16:19, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * No one disbelieved you, we just need to be very strict about sourcing where allegations and BLPs are concerned. — Czello (music) 17:09, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Again I had to correct it because it was simply wrong, Shelby Lynn (first woman) did not say that Lindemann sexual assaulted her. Read BBC: "Ms Lynn, who has emphasised on social media she wasn't sexually assaulted, said her memory of the evening was "blurry" and she recalls feeling nauseous and vomiting at a party after the concert." --KurtR (talk) 04:35, 19 June 2023 (UTC) Updated KurtR (talk) 04:50, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

 * The allegations were dropped for lack of evidence, does this need to be 2/3rds of his personal life section? 2806:2F0:9181:F9E5:71EE:4E7:A6E:F4A9 (talk) 20:43, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

he isnt atheist
the sources cited for that claim are insufficient 197.232.110.211 (talk) 05:25, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

 * Why are they? I’m as atheist as they come is pretty clear-cut. — Czello (music) 07:43, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Rolling Stones source
, I'd appreciate a more lengthy explanation of why the Rolling Stone and Der Spiegel sources cannot be used in the article. In particular, I'm unconvinced of your arguments that i) a sexual relationship falls under the purview of WP:ROLLINGSTONEPOLITICS and that ii) Der Spiegel is biased in this case. I hope we are able to find a middle ground. — Ixtal ( T / C ) ⁂ Non nobis solum. 13:09, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I dont know about Der Spiegel but Rolling Stone is an extremely biased and unreliable source in anything that isnt music related and should imo not be used to make such claims --FMSky (talk) 16:10, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * , I do not know german but it seems the rolling stone article is quoting or taking its information from Der Spiegel so I fail to see how it is them making any claim at all in such a way that would indicate biased or unreliable journalistic practices. — Ixtal ( T / C ) ⁂ Non nobis solum. 20:19, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Rolling Stone Politics is clear that the source cannot be used on "politically and societally sensitive issues". The Rolling Stone source was not merely reporting on a "sexual relationship", but allegations of sexual misconduct. Regardless of whether it's merely repeating claims made by Der Spiegel, Rolling Stone cannot be used on Wikipedia for anything other than music/movie reviews and general, uncontroversial content relating to such.
 * Regarding Der Spiegel - which I have not removed - the Hamburg Regional Court recently ruled that Der Spiegel coverage of this case violated the European Convention of Human Rights. Other German-language sources (will link to next time I'm on laptop and can guarantee I'm translating the correct sources) say the court also ruled that the publication used anonymous Reddit postings as sources. These are issues that need to be addressed by the wider community here, and couldn't/shouldn't be resolved on the talk page of one musician, where discussion input would be minimal at best. Kind regards, Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 22:13, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Zunge
New single is up for pre-order on Amazon Music. 'Zunge' will release September 8th. 94.143.189.20 (talk) 13:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

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User talk:Oriondown

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Tara Mandalpet
Hi. I'm afraid I had to delete your article because it consisted solely of an external link. If you'd like to try again, please include some information on the subject. Deb 21:04, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Richard Kruspe/Archive 1

Untitled
This article seems to be a series of cut & paste dumps from a fan site. Much comes from here, where the author seems to have released the work from copyright. Much of the information is trivial, without context, and in interviewer/interviewee format, rather than paragraphs. I had to read far down the page to figure out who this person IS. Joyous 19:22, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)

Daughters?
Since when did Richard have more than one daughter, and since when did she live in New York? She's German, so the suggestion that he moved to New York to be closer to his children (if he does have children and not just one child) is false. He has said he left because of marriage, his ex-wife does not have children

Zwen?
Does anyone have any reliable source indicating that the Z in "Richard Z. Kruspe" would stand for "Zwen"? /Hugoflug 21:30, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
 * You are close, it is "Zven". He has previously gone by Zven or Sven.

Timeline
RICH IS THE LEAD GUITARIST

This section should be made into paragraph format. --Der Sporkmeister 10:24, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

I read in the Rammstein book Richard say he moved out to Berlin in 1988, making him 21. Lilijana 02:09, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Height
There exist no official height listings for any of the band members,Stop adding them. Whoever is adding them is getting them off of some free site that just added any height they thought the band was.The heights are incorrect.

 * I disagree, the heights are quite accurate for Richard, Till, Paul and Ollie listed at IMDB. How ever, Christoph and Christian's heights are both not reliable at IMDB or any other site. --Redkane 19:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Picture.
Could somebody put up a better picture of Richard? --Der Sporkmeister 18:38, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Oh come on, that's a great picture! xD Tirentu 20:05, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Birthday
His birthday is the same,charles whitman.

PARENTS
WHAT WERE RICHARD'S PARENTS NAMES??

 * That is just information that has probably never been released to the public, so no one can really state the names of them. --Redkane 19:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Move to Richard Z. Kruspe
Shouldn't this article be moved now that he has changed his last name back to just Kruspe?

 * Exactly what I was thinking. Needs a lot of cleanup both here and in the Rammstein article itself for that. Tirentu 20:04, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Is Richard married again? I read an article that said he was enjoying the married life.
 * No, I'm almost positive he never remarried. Ancatdubh43 03:13, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree, move it already. Avenged Evanfold 19:35, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

 * move - He took on his wife's name when they got married. Since the divorce, he dropped the name of Bernstein.  CardinalFangZERO 08:13, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Signature guitar
The article states "He is the first German guitarist with a signature guitar series from a major label." Who made that one up? Just off the top of my head, I can think of Rudolf and Michael Schenker...

Amplifier
"Richard uses Engel Amps." This isn't true. Paul Landers uses an Engl Powerball (Yes, spelled 'Engl') and Richard uses an Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier.

Italic texti love you

Move from East Germany
Not sure what it is about rammstein and silly statements but youve contradicted yourself in 2 paragraphs here. "....one couldn't just leave East Germany, so he entered West Germany through Czechoslovakia. "In 1989 he escaped from East Germany over the border between Austria and Hungary." So which is it? Squad'nLeedah 21:27, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Name
The name of the article is still Richard Kruspe-Bernstein for me, I can't change it, the talk page is called Richard Kruspe though. Weird King nothing 13:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Daughter's birthday
On this page it says that his daughter was born in 1992, however on her page it says she was born in 1991. Anyone have a reliable source as to which is correct? --Tiasu 06:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

title: Talk:Richard Kruspe/Archive 1


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Jean-Baptiste Guimet

Jean-Baptiste Guimet (20 July 1795 – 8 April 1871), French industrial chemist, and inventor of synthetic colors, was born at Voiron, Isère.

He studied at the École Polytechnique in Paris, and in 1817 entered the Administration des Poudres et Salpêtres. As natural lazurite was expensive and inaccessible, different options for its artificial production were explored in Europe. Jean Baptiste Guimet discovered a synthetic route in 1826. He finally prepared the synthetic lazurite, called ultramarine in 1828. It was also called as French ultramarine. In 1828 he was awarded the prize offered by the Société d’encouragement pour l’industrie nationale for a process of making artificial ultramarine with all the properties of the substance prepared from expensive natural source lapis lazuli; and six years later he resigned his official position in order to devote himself to the commercial production of that material, a factory for which he established at Fleurieu-sur-Saône.

His son Émile Étienne Guimet succeeded him in the direction of the factory.

title: Jean-Baptiste Guimet


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Talk:Oliver Riedel

Critique
This article seems to be a series of cut & paste dumps from a fan site. Much comes from here, where the author seems to have released the work from copyright. Much of the information is trivial, without context, and in interviewer/interviewee format, rather than paragraphs. I had to read far down the page to figure out who this person IS. Joyous 19:22, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)

Height
There exist no official height listings for any of the band members,Stop adding them. Whoever is adding them is getting them off of some free site that just added any height they thought the band was.The heights are incorrect.

Links, Stub, and Basses.
The first link goes to an irrelevant fan site. The second link goes to a closed fan site. The third link goes to what I believe is ABC's Austrialian site, and it only features reviews of the album Reise, Reise. The fourth link comes up with a "Cannot find server" error.

Once I find the exact interview Joyous was talking about (the site lists a good number of interviews), I'm going to replace the four current ones with it.

I'm also going to add the stub tag. There seems to be a lot more than can be added, perhaps with the help of a German translator it could be much better.

Finally, we need to find out what his exact gear is. I know he uses a four string and a five string, but I have been unable to figure out what they are. --Tom 04:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Picture?
This page used to have a picture, what happened to it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Theloonieonthegrass (talk • contribs) 02:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC).
 * It seemed deleted for copyright reasons, so I uploaded one of mine, it will do until someone with a better one shows up. --Karrock (talk) 21:55, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

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2006 Scott Tournament of Hearts

The 2006 Scott Tournament of Hearts, the Canadian women's curling championship, was held at the John Labatt Centre in London, Ontario, February 25, 2006 – March 6, 2006. The tournament consisted of 12 teams, one from each of Canada's provinces, one from Canada's territories and the defending champion, whose team is known as Team Canada. The tournament was the 25th anniversary of the Hearts. The winner would be Kelly Scott's British Columbia rink who defeated the defending champions, Jennifer Jones in the final.

Teams
Representing Team Canada was the defending champion, Jennifer Jones rink but with a change at lead position with 2002 Olympic bronze medallist Georgina Wheatcroft. Making her 21st appearance at the Scotts was Colleen Jones who skipped the Nova Scotia team. Colleen Jones had won the Scotts six times. 1998 Champion Cathy King skipped Team Alberta. Making her fourth appearance at the Scotts was Suzanne Gaudet from Prince Edward Island, a two time Canadian Junior Champion and 2001 World Junior Champion. Making her first appearance at the Scotts was Andrea Kelly from New Brunswick, the 2005 Canadian Junior Champion. Returning from 2005 was the Northwest Territories/Yukon team skipped by Kerry Koe- Koe made her fourth appearance at the Scotts. Also returning was Kelly Scott, from British Columbia, the 1995 World Junior Champion who made her second appearance. Another skip returning from 2005 was Heather Strong from Newfoundland and Labrador who made her sixth appearance. Making an appearance at the Scotts for the first time since 1997 was Janet Harvey of Manitoba, attending her third event. Debuting at the Scotts, along with Kelly from New Brunswick was Eve Bélisle from Quebec, Krista Scharf from Ontario and Tracy Streifel from Saskatchewan.

Only alternates who have played are shown

Results
All times are Eastern Standard Time.

Draw 1
February 25, 2:30 PM ET

Draw 2
February 25, 7:00 PM ET

Draw 3
February 26, 10:00 AM ET

Draw 4
February 26, 2:30 PM ET

Draw 5
February 26, 7:00 PM ET

Draw 6
February 27, 9:30 AM ET

Draw 7
February 27, 2:00 PM ET

Draw 8
February 27, 7:00 PM ET

Draw 9
February 28, 9:30 AM ET

Draw 10
February 28, 2:00 PM ET

Draw 11
February 28, 7:00 PM ET

Draw 12
March 1, 9:30 AM ET

Draw 13
March 1, 2:00 PM ET

Draw 14
March 1, 7:00 PM ET

Draw 15
March 2, 8:30 AM ET

Draw 16
March 2, 1:00 PM ET

Draw 17
March 2, 7:00 PM ET

Tiebreaker
March 3, 8:30 AM ET

1 vs. 2
March 3, 1:00 PM ET

3 vs. 4 game
March 3, 7:00 PM ET

Semi-final
March 4, 1:00 PM ET

Final
March 5, 12:30 PM ET

Top Percentages
(After Round Robin. Five best players from each position)

Qualifying
Bold indicates winner. Italics indicated defending provincial champion

Tie-breaker
 * Bryden 13-4 Rumberg

Playoffs:
 * Semi-final: Sonnenberg 6-3 Bryden
 * Final: King 8-2 Sonnenberg

Event held at the Shamrock Curling Club in Edmonton January 24–29

Playoffs:
 * Semi-final: Wells 8-6 Mallett
 * Final: Scott 8-5 Wells

Event held at the Williams Lake Curling Club in Williams Lake January 25–29.

Tie-breakers:
 * Fowler 5-3 Cripps
 * Jenion 7-3 Fowler
 * Streich 11-4 Spencer

Play-offs
 * Red2 vs Black2: Jenion 5-4 Streich
 * Red1 vs Black1: Harvey 6-5 Porritt
 * Semi-final: Jenion 7-8 Porritt
 * Final: Harvey 9-3 Jenion

Event held at the C.A. Nesbitt Arena in Thompson January 25–29.

Defending Manitoba champion, Jennifer Jones won the 2005 Scott Tournament of Hearts, meaning she will get an automatic bye to the championships and did not have to go through qualifying.

Tie-breaker
 * Hanlon 8-4 Comeau

Playoffs
 * Semi-final: Hanlon 10-8 Adams
 * Final: Kelly 8-7 Hanlon

Event held at Curling Beauséjour, Inc. in Moncton January 25–29

Playoffs
 * Semi-final: Cunningham 6-4 Thomas
 * Final (Strong needs to be defeated twice): Cunningham 9-6 Strong; Strong 6-5 Cunningham

Event held at the Corner Brook Rec Plex in Corner Brook January 25–29

Tie-breaker
 * Mouzar 8-7 Palmer

Playoffs
 * Semi-final: Zinck 9-8 Mouzar
 * Final: Jones 9-8 Zinck

Colleen Jones represented Team Canada at the 2005 Scott Tournament of Hearts because she had won it in 2004.

Event held at the Highlander Curling Club in St. Andrews January 25–29.

Playoffs
 * 3 vs. 4: Bodogh 9-8 Hanna
 * 1 vs. 2: Scharf 5-4 McGhee
 * Semi-final: McGhee 8-5 Bodogh
 * Final: Scharf 7-6 McGhee

Event held at the Fort Frances Curling Club in Fort Frances January 29-February 4

Playoffs
 * Semi-final: Bradley 7-6 O'Rourke
 * Final: Gaudet 11-3 Bradley

Event held at the Maple Leaf Curling Club in O'Leary January 19–22.

The defending champion, Rebecca Jean MacPhee played third for O'Rourke

Tie-breaker
 * Belisle 5-4 Lanthier

Playoffs
 * A1 vs. B1 game: Osborne 8-7 Larouche
 * Quarter-final: Belisle 7-4 Frappier
 * Semi-final: Belisle 8-5 Larouche
 * Final: Belisle 7-5 Osborne

Event held at the Club de curling Victoria in Quebec City January 15–22.

The defending champion, Brenda Nicholls played third for Berthelot

Tie-breaker
 * Syrota 6-5 Birnie

Playoffs
 * Semi-final: Syrota 6-5 Lawton
 * Final: Streifel 7-5 Syrota

Event held at the Yorkton Curling Club in Yorkton February 1–5.

No playoffs or tie-breakers necessary.

Event held at the Yellowknife Curling Club in Yellowknife January 26–29

title: 2006 Scott Tournament of Hearts


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Talk:Christian Lorenz

Dump
This article seems to be a series of cut & paste dumps from a fan site. Much comes from here, where the author seems to have released the work from copyright. Much of the information is trivial, without context, and in interviewer/interviewee format, rather than paragraphs. I had to read far down the page to figure out who this person IS. Joyous 19:25, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)

I tryed my best to fix this article. --68.82.178.62 02:10, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

More edits.
Okay, I did a few more edits to this article. I put some of the old quotes back in, with some small edits to a few. As well, I added onto the part "Rammstein" part of the biography section. I'd like to add some more about Feeling B, but I'm not sure where to get good information on that. If anybody knows, please tell me.

--Der Sporkmeister 14:58, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC) (note: 68.82.178.62 is me.  I just now decided to make an account.)

Height
There exist no official height listings for any of the band members,Stop adding them. Whoever is adding them is getting them off of some free site that just added any height they thought the band was.The heights are incorrect.

General information about Rammstein
Should general information about Rammstein (album release dates, etc.) be included in this article? --Der Sporkmeister 18:15, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Can we get any citation on "sick and decadent country"
I've been trying hard to find one, but so far I came up empty. CharonX 20:50, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

 * http://www.rammsteinniccage.com/media/interviews/rammcomjan01en.html Schrödinger 03:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Christian Lorenz was born in East Berlin. The family was quite prosperous: the father is a design engineer, later he even became the director of his enterprise. Flake in the name has a German ("Flake"), not English ("Flake") pronunciation, moreover, according to Christian himself in an interview, that "Flake" is not a pseudonym, as is sometimes believed, [1] but his real the name[2][3] given at birth, although the spelling in quotation marks is also common in the press.[4]
 * Contrary to popular belief, Christian did not receive a higher education: “In order to enter a higher educational institution, you had to first serve. But I didn’t want to go into the army, so I had to give up my career as a doctor.” He worked as a loader at a slaughterhouse, then trained as a toolmaker. Together with Paul Landers and Christoph Schneider, a little later he turned out to be the most professional musician in Rammstein: behind their shoulders was participation in Feeling B - a group that made a name for itself in East Germany even before the fall of the Berlin Wall. She was one of the first German punk bands that managed to release a CD back in 1989. The group then released two more albums and videos.
 * Prior to the fall of the Wall, he refused to be drafted into the National People's Army, repeatedly taking sick leave from doctors and describing himself to the military district command as mentally unstable.
 * According to Lorenz, after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the introduction of the German mark, his earnings as a musician were not enough, so he agreed to state-sponsored anti-missile activities. He founded a non-profit association with friends and ran, among other things, an art gallery, which was only moderately successful, in which he and his colleagues exhibited their paintings.[5]
 * Christian Lorenz is in his second marriage since 2008 to artist Jenny Rosemeyer. Цйфыву (talk) 21:30, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Keyboard?

 * Does Flake play a signature keyboard? Sabrebattletank 21:32, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd also like to know more about the types of keyboard and equipments he uses. Shawnc 22:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Keine Lust Translation
According to Herzeleid.com, Keine Lust popularly translates to 'Don't feel like it'. Considering the obvious close relationship between Herzeleid.com and Rammstein. How ever, the lyrics can not be specificly translated by anyone except Rammstein.

Children
How does anyone prove he has 4 children. according to the man himself he says he only has one. can that be corrected? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vapora (talk • contribs) 05:27, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Unfortunately, there are few reliable sources of information about Christian, so the Wikipedia articles on Rammstein and its members are quite inaccurate. If you have a good reference, by all means correct the article. ~MDD4696 05:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Sadly i have only heard from him in a conversation last year, i have no sort of article to produce. but i dotn want peopel to have the wrong info on him...

 * According to Richard Z. Kruspe-Bernstein in an interview, Flake has 3 kids, Till has 4 kids, Richard, Ollie and Paul each have 2 kids and Schneider has none. --Redkane 07:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

America
Well this is not related to the the article itself but a paragraph, "Flake seems to dislike America and most of American culture" as much as I know AMERICA is a continent nor a country, this statment should be changed to UNITED STATES

== It is widely accepted to call the USA America. It stays.

Water or custard?
The Till Lindemann page says:"A statement from Sgt. Thomas Radula of the Worcester Police Department stated that Lindemann was simulating sex with Flake onstage "using a phallic object that shot custard over the crowd." (emphasis mine) - so what is it, water or custard? JAL 83.80.81.236 14:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

The band uses water, custard,and liquor in the dildo, so either way could be right, however i don't know what they used in it at that particular show. Jibba-Jabbaman

WikiProject class rating
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His name pronounciation
Hello all. His IPA prounciation is wrong "Flake" is writen in the IPA the english wahy but not the german way where it would be more like "Flahk-uh" and not Flake as in the snow flake. Since I don't know IPA maybe someone can change it.Tapio1994 (talk) 21:35, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Flake's books
Flake has written two books that i was surprised not to read anything about here. I don't feel confident doing the edits myself but if someone is up to it, the books are his autobiography "Der Tastenficker" (doesn't seem to have been released in English, however) and "Heute hat die Welt Geburtstag" ("It's The World's Birthday Today")--Jaffaceksi (talk) 05:18, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

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Chinese Protectorate

The Chinese Protectorate was an administrative body responsible for the well-being of ethnic Chinese residents of the Straits Settlements during that territory's British colonial period. Protectorates were established in each area of the Settlements, namely Singapore, Penang and Malacca. Each was headed by a Protector. The institution was established in 1877 to handle all matters related to the Straits Settlements' Chinese residents. In particular, it sought to mitigate the human rights violations of the coolie trade, which had expanded to notorious levels by the 1850s in the region.

The coolie trade
Perhaps the most significant goal of the British colonial administration in the founding of the entity was to regulate and humanize the coolie trade and lessen the misery of the coolies, who were subject to merciless exploitation. First, coolie agents were required to register with Protectorate. Policing by the Chinese Protectorate freed up the labour market and firms (mainly British-run) seeking to hire Chinese workers, who no longer had to go through coolie brokers and secret societies. As a result of this improvement in conditions, the number of Chinese arrivals increased dramatically from the 1880s onwards.

Goals of the Protectorate
Likewise, agents of the Chinese Protectorate often visited domestic servants. Those found to be subjected to especially inhumane conditions were sent to Singapore's Home for Girls. The Protectorate sought to have all Chinese social societies (including the kongsi) - many of which were secret societies or bodies of organized crime - register with the government. The institution also encouraged the Chinese to seek the government’s help instead of going to the secret societies, thus weakening the latter's influence among the Chinese.

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Émile Étienne Guimet

Émile Étienne Guimet (2 June 1836 – 12 August 1918) was a French industrialist, traveler and connoisseur.

He was born at Lyon and succeeded his father Jean-Baptiste Guimet in the direction of his "artificial ultramarine" factory. He also founded the Musée Guimet, which was first located at Lyon in 1879 and was handed over to the state and transferred to Paris in 1885.

In Lyon he also established a library and a school for Oriental languages. Guimet aimed at spreading knowledge of Oriental civilizations,  and  facilitating religious studies, through sacred images and religious objects.

Devoted to travel, he was in 1876 commissioned by the minister of public instruction to study the religions of the Far East, and the museum contains many of the fruits of this expedition, including a fine collection of Japanese and Chinese porcelain and many objects relating not merely to the religions of the East but also to those of Ancient Egypt, Greece and Rome.

In 1945 Georges Salles, director of the Museums of France, redistributed the collections of national museum. The great collections of Asian arts of the Louvre Museum were transferred to the Musee Guimet. As a result, the Guimet became one of the greatest museums of Asian art in the world. It provides the most comprehensive panorama of Asian arts under one umbrella.

Mata Hari was his long-time mistress.

In 1880 he started publishing Annales du Musee Guimet, in which original articles appear on Oriental Religions. He wrote Lettres sur l'Algerie (1877) and Promenades japonaises (1880), and also some musical compositions, including a grand opera, Tai-Tsoung (1894)

The Émile Guimet Prize for Asian Literature was created in his honour in 2017.

title: Émile Étienne Guimet


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Bigbang (Norwegian band)

Bigbang (also styled BigBang, bigbang or BIGBANG) is a Norwegian rock band. Formed in 1992, the band is led by frontman and chief songwriter Øystein Greni. Over the years, the band's lineup has changed several times while remaining a trio and with Greni as the only constant member.

Bigbang has been described as "Norway's best live band", with their album Radio Radio TV Sleep holding the distinction of being the best selling live album released in Norway. The band has released eleven studio albums, one live album and two compilation albums.

History
Bigbang was formed in 1992 by guitarist and vocalist Øystein Greni and drummer Christer Engen while they were in high school. Among their influences were American punk and hardcore bands, and classic rock from the 1960s, 70s and 80s, while they also had parents active in the music business. Bassist Erik Tresselt completed the band's first lineup and the trio went on a month-long tour of the United States in 1993, and released their first album Waxed in 1995 on their own independent record label, Grand Sport.

Drummer Engen left the band to join Turbonegro in 1997, and was replaced by Martin Horntveth, previously with Jaga Jazzist. They released the single "How Do You Do", and remained together until January 1999 when Horntveth returned to Jaga Jazzist, to be replaced by Kristian Syvertsen. Syvertsen remained with the band until April of that year when he left and was replaced by Olaf Olsen. Bassist Tresselt left the band in August 1999 and was succeeded by Nikolai Eilertsen.

Greni sold his Vespa to pay the final installment to finance the production of Electric Psalmbook recorded during 1998 in Athletic Sound Studio in Halden, and released on the own label Grand Sport in March 1999. The band's breakthrough came about following a highly successful 1999 by:Larm concert in Stavanger, when suddenly several record companies demonstrated great interest in signing them. The band signed with Warner Music in 1999, and immediately re-released Electric Psalmbook in the fall of 1999.

For a period during 1999 as the song "Wild Bird" received considerable radio exposure and became established as a hit, BigBang as a group was temporarily dissolved. The BigBang song "Long Distance Man" is an English adaptation (with completely rewritten lyrics) of a Norwegian song by Undertakers Circus, "Nettenes Prinsesse" from 1973.

The album Clouds Rolling By from 2000 was the start of commercial success for BigBang, as the song "Girl In Oslo" became established as a hit and had been released in several compilation albums by that time. In early 2001, BigBang was Launched in Germany, Switzerland and Austria with the EP release Girl In Oslo. Drummer Olaf Olsen was absent from the band from May 2000 until he returned in May 2001. During this time, drums were played by Karim Sayed. In March 2002, BigBang released Frontside Rock'n'Roll. The album features the song "Frontside Rock'n'Roll", which Øystein Greni dedicated to two skaters he knew that had died in their youth. The title refers to a skateboarding trick requiring a high level of proficiency. The release was followed by a U.S. tour spanning five weeks.

The live album Radio Radio TV Sleep was released in August 2003. A double CD with half acoustic material, the album's title refers to a cheatcode often found on Norwegian hotel room TV remote controls to access pay-television. National network NRK taped a documentary over these live sessions, which climax is a performance of "Girl in Oslo" featuring five drummers, one of whom being Thor S. Greni.

In 2004 bassist Eilertsen departed from the band in order to focus on the group The National Bank, and former bassist Erik Tresselt returned to the band. With the April 2005 release of Poetic Terrorism, the band again utilised their own independent label Grand Sport in Norway, maintaining the role of Warner Music was for international and not domestic use.

Shortly after the release of the 2005 EP, Erik Tresselt left the band for the second time, and was replaced by Jarle Bernhoft, a former guitarist and vocalist of the Norwegian punk rock band Span. Bernhoft performed only one concert in Norway with the band. On the 2006 acoustic tour, former bassist and keyboardist Nikolai Eilertsen joined the band. During the concerts of this summer, Lasse Weeden played the bass. Following their March 2007 album, Too Much Yang (2007), the band moved to Los Angeles, California in September 2007. Having employed several bassists during the year, Eilertsen did not wish to move to the U.S., and the role was filled by Lasse Weeden. The 2008 album From Acid to Zen was their American debut release, which received complementary reviews from among others David Fricke of Rolling Stone who selected the album as his "Fricke's Pick" and compared it to "a shotgun buffet".

As of 2009, the band released the seventh studio album Edendale, with Nikolai Eilertsen returning as bassist. In March 2011, BigBang released their eighth studio album, Epic Scrap Metal, and on exactly the same date two years later, in 2013, the trio released the album The Oslo Bowl. Big Bang released their tenth studio album, Glory Chord, in May 2019. The band’s most recent studio album, Le Californie, was released in April 2023.

Members
Present
 * Øystein Greni – guitar, bass, drums, percussion, vocals (1992–)
 * Olaf Olsen – drums, percussion, backing vocals (1999–2000, 2001–)
 * Nikolai Eilertsen – bass, keyboards, backing vocals (1999–2004, 2009–)

Past
 * Christer Engen – drums (1992–1997)
 * Martin Horntveth – drums (1997–1999)
 * Kristian Syvertsen – drums (1999)
 * Karim Sayed – drums (2000–2001)
 * Erik Tresselt – bass (1992–1999, 2004–2005)
 * Øyvind Storli Hoel – bass, backing vocals (2007–2008)
 * Lasse Weeden – bass (2007)

Timeline

Video albums

 * Radio Radio TV Sleep - (Live footage + bonus material) (2003)

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David Tuviyahu

David Tuviyahu (דוד טוביהו; 20 November 1898 – 1975) was an Israeli politician and trade unionist who served as the first mayor of the city of Beersheba after the establishment of the State of Israel.

Biography
Tuviyahu was born in 1898 in Galicia, then part of the Austro-Hungarian empire. He immigrated to Mandatory Palestine in 1920, during the chiefly Eastern European Third Aliyah. There he worked in construction in the north of the country, including on the road between Afula and Nazareth, and was a member of Kibbutz Geva in the Jezreel Valley for seven years.

At various times, Tuviyahu worked as a foreman and as a manager for Solel Boneh, a construction company owned by the Histadrut trade union. By 1931 he was working on the construction site of the Palestine Electric Corporation's Naharayim power plant.

Tuviyahu was active in Mapai and the Histadrut, both powerful organisations associated with David Ben-Gurion's stream of Labor Zionism. Before the 1948 Israeli Declaration of Independence, he was involved in Zionist activities regarding the development of Jewish communities in the Negev: the 'three lookouts' and the 'eleven points.'

Tuviyahu was appointed mayor of Beersheba in 1950, taking over from military governor Michael Hanegbi. The small settlement together with its surroundings had been depopulated of most of its Arab inhabitants during the Arab–Israeli War, particularly after the battle of Beersheba, and was granted to Israel by the 1949 Armistice Agreements, after which it was elevated to a municipality. From a small town in the Negev desert, Tuviyahu oversaw the development and rapid expansion of the city, including its connection to the electricity grid and the national road network, mass housing programs for the many new immigrants (particularly from North Africa) who were living in nearby tent cities, and the construction of the Central Hospital of the Negev (now Soroka Medical Center), inaugurated in October 1959. During his municipal tenure, he travelled to the United States as part of a 1958 Histadrut trip.

In 1961, the city council replaced him with Ze'ev Zrizi, ending his political career. In subsequent years, he helped establish the Institute of Higher Education in the Negev, which would later form the basis of the Ben-Gurion University of the Negev. In 1964, he headed the Tel Aviv district of the Israel Land Administration.

One of Beersheba's main streets (heading west in the direction of Ofakim and Sderot) and one of its high schools are named after him.

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