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Kangaroo (video game)

Kangaroo (カンガルー) is a four-screen platform game released as an arcade video game 1982 by Sun Electronics and distributed in North America by Atari, Inc. Kangaroo is one of the first arcade games similar in style to Donkey Kong without being a direct clone. The player takes the role of a boxing glove-wearing mother kangaroo who is trying to rescue her joey from fruit-throwing monkeys. Jumping is integral to the game, but there is no jump button. Instead, the player pushes up on the joystick—or up and diagonally—to leap. The arcade version of Kangaroo has visible glitches in the graphics, such as sprites briefly flickering.

Atari published ports for the Atari 2600 and Atari 5200. The 5200 version was ported to Atari 8-bit computers and sold through the Atari Program Exchange.

Gameplay

There are four different levels. Three of them consist of the mother kangaroo on the bottom floor trying to reach the top floor where her joey is being held captive by some monkeys. On each of the levels monkeys throw apples and apple cores, which the mother kangaroo must either jump, duck, or punch. If she gets face to face with one of the monkeys, she can punch it with a boxing glove. There are also pieces of fruit that she can jump up and get for points; if she jumps and touches a bell, higher-value fruits will appear to replace the ones she has already collected. She must be wary of the big Ape, who will occasionally appear and try to take her gloves away from her. The level must be completed before the time runs out; otherwise, the player will lose a life.

Levels 1, 2 and 4 consist of different platforms that the mother kangaroo must jump onto or climb onto via a ladder. On the third level, the joey is in a cage held up by a troop of monkeys, and there is a horde of apples that will be unleashed if five monkeys climb up to it. On this level, the mother kangaroo must punch each monkey in the stack several times until the cage is lowered and, when the cage has been lowered enough, the mother kangaroo must climb to the next floor to get to the joey before the cage is raised again.

The game uses classical and folk songs, including "Turkish March" by Ludwig van Beethoven (at game start), "American Patrol" by F. W. Meacham (during regular gameplay), "Oh! Susanna" by Stephen Foster (level completion fanfare), and "Westminster Quarters" (when a bell is rung).

Ports
Atari, Inc. published ports of Kangaroo for the Atari 2600 and Atari 5200 in 1983.

Jim Leiterman of Atari Research ported the Atari 5200 cartridge to the technically similar Atari 8-bit computers in one day. He used a tool he had written to disassemble the game code, then modified the source and assembled an Atari 8-bit version. Leiterman submitted it to the Atari Program Exchange and requested they publish it without attribution. This was unusual, as APX was created to publish user-written software, not licensed ports or software developed internally at Atari.

Reception
Arcade Express gave the arcade version an 8 out of 10 in November 1982.

The Atari 5200 version of Kangaroo was reviewed by Video magazine in its "Arcade Alley" column where it received mixed commentary. While describing the game as "an excellent piece of work", reviewers also admitted that it had "fail[ed] to bowl [them] over" and criticized the game's "animation-quality graphics" which appeared to be used primarily to "dress up rudimentary play-action". It was later awarded "1984 Best Arcade-to-Home Video Game/Computer Game Translation" at the 5th annual Arkie Awards, where judges noted that "all aspects of the game look and play" as a "virtual duplicate" of the arcade version.

Charles Ardai, reviewing the Atari 2600 version for Electronic Fun with Computers & Games, wrote that despite having "horrible" graphics and sound, the gameplay of Kangaroo is better than in the arcades.

Legacy
In 1984, Kangaroo and Space Ace replaced Pitfall Harry, Frogger, and Donkey Kong Jr. in CBS's Saturday Supercade. The cartoon revolves around kangaroos Katy (voiced by Mea Martineau) and Joey (voiced by David Mendenhall) who live in a zoo run by the zookeeper Mr. Friendly (voiced by Arthur Burghardt). The series has never been officially released on DVD or VHS.

The original arcade version was made available on July 16, 2020 as part of Hamster Corporation's Arcade Archives series. It was released digitally on Nintendo Switch and PlayStation 4.

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User talk:Pulsemeat

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User:Jordanblue

I'm Daniel Weinberg, 20, and live in Brooklyn. I'm in New York University, the Gallatin School of Individualized Study, class of 2008. The concentration I wrote about I called Marginalization - basically, I want to know why certain people are fucked over by the system, and how to make it better. I'd ultimately love to work with immigration or affordable housing. So I study politics, economics, history, community organizing, and languages. =) email: blue@nyu.edu AIM: Danny43455 My website

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Jim Sinclair (activist)

Jim Sinclair is an American autistic activist and writer who is widely considered the founder of the autism rights movement. Sinclair, along with Kathy Lissner Grant and Donna Williams, formed Autism Network International. Sinclair became the original coordinator of ANI. Sinclair is an advocate for the anti-cure position on autism, arguing that autism is an integral part of a person's identity and should not be cured.

Biography
Sinclair has said that they did not speak until age 12. Sinclair was raised as a girl, but describes having an intersex body, and in a 1997 introduction to the Intersex Society of North America, Sinclair wrote, "I remain openly and proudly neuter, both physically and socially."

In 1989, American talk show host Sally Jessy Raphael interviewed Toby (an alias of Sinclair), who was a then self-described androgynous and nonsexual person.

In 1998, Sinclair was a graduate student of rehabilitation counseling at Syracuse University in Syracuse, New York. They never found a job in the field despite possessing knowledge and qualifications, likely due to having a radical stance on autism and neurodiversity.

Sinclair was the first person to "articulate the autism-rights position".

Views
In 1993, Sinclair wrote the essay "Don't Mourn for Us" (1993) with an anti-cure perspective on autism. The essay has been thought of by some to be a touchstone for the fledgling autism-rights movement and has been mentioned in The New York Times and New York Magazine. In the essay, Sinclair writes,

"You didn't lose a child to autism. You lost a child because the child you waited for never came into existence. That isn't the fault of the autistic child who does exist, and it shouldn't be our burden. We need and deserve families who can see us and value us for ourselves, not families whose vision of us is obscured by the ghosts of children who never lived. Grieve if you must, for your own lost dreams. But don't mourn for us. We are alive. We are real.

—Jim Sinclair, 'Don't Mourn for Us', Our Voice, Vol. 1, No. 3, 1993"Sinclair also expresses their frustration with the double standard autistic people face, such as being told their persistence is "pathological" when neurotypical people are praised for their dedication to something important to them. Sinclair has criticized the medical view that autistic people have deficits in social skills, arguing that autistic people can be compared to a different culture in a neurotypical-dominated society.

Sinclair is the first documented autistic person to reject people-first language.

Autreat
Sinclair established and ran Autreat, the first independent autistic-run gathering, for fifteen years after attending conferences that mainly included parents of autistic children and professionals. They and other autistic adults described these conferences as isolating and dehumanizing. Autreat explicitly prioritizes autistic needs, with programs like an "Ask a Neurotypical" panel.

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Almolonga

The Almolonga volcano, also called "Cerro Quemado" (Burned Mountain) or "La Muela" (The Molar) due to its distinct shape, is an andesitic stratovolcano in the south-western department of Quetzaltenango in Guatemala. Part of the mountain range of the Sierra Madre, the volcano is located near the town of Almolonga, just south of Quetzaltenango, Guatemala's second largest city.

The volcano is set along the Zunil fault zone and has a central caldera surrounded by several dacitic and rhyolitic lava domes and formed in a back-arc volcanic setting, with activity commencing 84,000BP. Almolonga stratovolcano is the oldest edifice and underwent collapse prior to the caldera forming eruption of Lake Atitlan, the major chronological marker of volcanism in the region. The collapse of the stratovolcano left a caldera with a diameter of 3,3 km and a depth of 350m that was subsequently occupied by lava domes on its northern edge and covered by tephra layers from numerous volcanoes, both in the Almolonga field and others. Cerro Quemado is the largest (about 2 km3) and youngest lava dome complex formed by eight vents with viscous lava flows and plugs during four distinct volcanic phases - the first two involving effusion of lava and formation of new domes. Cerro Quemado underwent a flank collapse 1,150BP, generating a landslide that went 6 km SSW in the Llano de Pinal valley and occupied an area of 13 km2, generating a lateral blast that affected the neighbouring Volcán Siete Orejas volcano as well. A lava dome emerged inside the collapse scar subsequently. 1818 an eruption formed a block lava flow over half a year that travelled 2.5 km eastward. Lahars and further explosive activity are potential hazards from this volcano.

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Angus McDonald (politician, born 1867)

Angus McDonald (July 18, 1867 – September 25, 1926) was a Canadian politician. He represented the riding of Timiskaming in the House of Commons of Canada from 1920 to 1925 after winning a by-election in 1920 and retaining his seat in the 1921 general election. His riding was abolished due to redistribution prior to the 1925 election and he did not run again.

He was an independent MP, with no party affiliation. Macdonald was a carpenter by trade.

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User talk:Trigor

Welcome
Hi Trigor, welcome to Wikipedia! :)

I, što se tiče uređivanja stranice DS, nema na čemu :) --Joy [shallot]   09:23, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ceda Jovanovic
Please take a look at that paragraph at Cedomir Jovanovic. I modified it to make it clear that he was only accused of being part of mafia. I am not sure what did you think was POV about it. The contacts were confirmed by Ceda himself, but actual involvement was denied. --Dejan Cabrilo 16:18, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Nuclear "phase-out"
President of Philippines is lady so you should change "his" and "he" accordingly.

--Trigor 13:22, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks. **blushing** Corrected. Ben T/C 13:53, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

 * It is still the same. You corrected it but than somehow the old version returned. --Trigor

 * Corrected again. I don't understand what happened. Thanks for checking and telling me. Ben T/C 23:59, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

Nuclear power phase-out
Why do yoy propose these countries? They are not even considering nuclear phase out. --Trigor 08:47, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your question. Answered at Talk:nuclear power phase-out. Ben T/C 08:54, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

I noticed you copied material from nuclear power phase-out to nuclear energy policy. That runs just opposite to what I was trying to do. While you might have tried to introduce more NPOV into the article, you created more redundancy with the nuclear power phase-out article. I think, though now it might not look like, both topics are distinct and have different foci. Therefore we should try to keep them a little apart and not copy material. As for the nuclear energy policy, it should mention phase-outs but that's not the focus, it only summarizes material from nuclear power phase-out, that's what links are for. --Ben T/C 02:02, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Hello

Thank you for your comment about Nuclear "phase out" copying to nuclear energy policy. First of all I would like to explain myself. All in all two paragraphs have been copied to nuclear policy article. One is part about Netherlands. I copied it because old one was just an old version of nuclear phase out paragraph that I updated and moved to policy page. I do believe that that article is good for energy policy. I think that that one is an exception. For example it would be wrong to move Sweden as article on policy page deals with several aspects. Not just phase out. I felt that Netherlands paragraph could be moved there.

Second one was about nuclear security. Security standard. Again it was copy of old version from nuclear phase out or vice versa. That one can apply to both articles. In other words arguments against phase out and for nuclear are more the less the same. Same goes for vice versa. That is not truth however for other parts of the article.

--Trigor 11:51, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Ok, I see your changes make sense.
 * I am under pressure of people who want to merge and split the two articles all the time so I am very cautious to keep them apart a little, though they have to be written more or less in parallel, with different foci - not an easy task. My idea was to have all the info first in nuclear power phase-out and then move relevant parts to nuclear energy policy and summarize them in nuclear power phase-out. Ben T/C 05:10, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

sr Wikipedia
Pozivam te da sudeluješ u radu na Wikipediji na srpskom jeziku! --M. Pokrajac 00:19, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Kako mogu da pomognem--Trigor 08:36, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Links about human rights abuse during Sablja
Dodao sam linkove sa HRW-a, kao sto cu dodati uskoro sa AI-a. Imas ovaj odgovor i na mojoj strani za razgovor na engleskom. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 11:51, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Nuclear energy policy
Sorry for the late response to your post on the talk page of Nuclear energy policy. It must have slipped through my "scanners," I am very sorry. I will try to integrate your contribution as fast as possible. BTW, maybe there will be a lot of changes to both nuclear energy policy and nuclear power phase-out. We are just discussing changes on Talk:Nuclear power phase-out, your opinion is very welcome, since you are one of the best contributors. Ben T/C 03:06, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Čedomir Jovanović
Hi! I have no idea whether Čedomir Jovanović is Roma or not - I was simply rewording some edits made by User:Desiphral and User:Bg007, who added the information about Jovanovic's Roma ethnicity - see this diff. I think you should ask Bg007 where he got the source about Jovanović's Roma origin. Thanks, Ronline ✉ 06:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC) Hi,byUser:Bg007,answer is very simple.He has never said that he is Rom or Serb,but if he's parents are Rom,so and he is.It is so obvious .Thierry Henry is French,but it is ovious that he is black.That is common situacion within Roma people,when sucseed in life ,they usually forget your origin.

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Talk:Gossip Girl (novel series)

Some clean up
I've again removed the following sentence (presented as a separate paragraph): “The first book of the series includes a famous quote by (sic) Oscar Wilde: Scandal is gossip made tedious by morality.“ No information is given as to where the quotation appears (in the text? as an epigraph?), nor as to its rôle or significance in the book.

It's not clear to me why a quotation included in one of the books should be held to be so important as to demand its own paragraph, or even to be included at all. It's not something that one would normally find in an entry like this. If for some reason it has to be included, it should be merged with one of the existing paragraphs — and could some explanation be given? Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 09:24, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I support the inclusion of the quote. Everyking 12:13, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * But why? What does it tell us?  Many books contain quotations; the pages on them don't bother to say so, because it's a minor detail.  What's the point here?  I've explained my reasons for removing it; if you have reasons for putting it in, please give them.. Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 19:13, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * It seems to me like good information. Everyking 19:21, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure what you mean by 'good' here. It tells us what Wilde said (which I suppose is good, though would be better on the Wilde page), but nothing useful or interesting about the book.  (My suspicion was that it was included in order to give some respectability to what seem, from the article, to be pretty light-weight, not to say trashy, novels.  But that opinion is based on very little, and is irrelevant to Wikipedia.)  If you really think that it belongs here, I suppose that I'm not so much against it that it's worth a long debate — but it does surely need some more information (as I mentioned above).  I'm damned if I'm reading the books in order to find out, though... Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 23:16, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't know, I might not mind reading them, they do sound kinda hot. Anyway, the article is short and it's better to overinform than underinform. And presumably the quote reflects on the content of the books, which would help enlighten the reader. Everyking 23:40, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I've tried to put the quotation back, but more informatively. Can you think of a way to improve it?  I can't seem to get it right. Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 09:02, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Damn, this article needs ALOT of attention. Has any body read this recently?--71.116.65.241 21:48, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I put Two Tag's On this baby--Maliki 786 21:56, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup
I removed most of the POV and non-encyclopedic tone from the article. Please, if you have read the books, review the current material and make sure I haven't accidentally strayed from the facts. Thanks -Harmil 20:32, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I've just read this article because I wanted to write a French article about Gossip Girl... At first, I juste intended to translate it in French (which I did), but I also edited this one because there were so many typing mistakes... --172.210.135.58 20:35, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

September 2006
Okay, so first I slightly rearranged the talk page so the most recent edits are at top. I didn't alter anyone's posts; I just thought it'd be easier to keep track of what's new here. This article needs ridiculous amounts of work, and I'm definitely not the one to do it, but I'm trying to at least get it in-shape enough that it meets some of Wikipedia's quality standards. The only edits I've made beside adding two tags are as follows:
 * I've removed the line "Contains plot spoilers!!!!" and replaced it with a more professional, encyclopedic spoiler/endspoiler template.
 * I've removed the line "They rule the school" because it's clearly not NPOV, and it just doesn't sound encyclopedic. If it's a tag-line for the series, someone can put it back up there, but it would be best if you were to indicate that it is, in fact, some sort of "official" tagline and not just your personal opinion.

This article needs much more work, especially with its tone/language and POV issues. I've never read these books, nor do I have any desire to; therefore, I don't believe I'm the one to work on this article. I'm almost wondering if we need to put some sort official editing hold on this thing while someone works on it, because it seems to come under frequent attack by vandals and hoaxers, whether they know they're vandalizing or not. Opinions?TheTomato 22:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Talk page rearranging has finally been undone - talk goes newest at the bottom. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 08:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Page to be Reworked?
I have some experience with this series - I'm not a devotee - and I see how much work needs to be done here. Would anyone mind if I made some edits to the structure of this? There appears to be quite a few articles devoted to in-depth character descriptions, so it might be appropriate to use this article to give brief overviews of each character, rather than the several-paragraph-breakdown there is now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.196.222.62 (talk) 21:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC).

 * It appears you have made some rather nice edits. I'm only puzzled why you removed citations.  Let me guess they made the article bulkier and you are correctly trying to improve the article.  Therefore I added a "References" section at the bottom and the coding needed to make the references appear in that section. Hope this is to your liking, while it satisfies wiki policy to provide citations. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling 00:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, the change in organization you've made looks great! Would you support me continuing the edits for the rest of the character descriptions? (That is, reworking each character article and transferring the bulk of the character descriptions on this page to the character pages?) It's a big task, and I just hope that it's improving, not merely confusing, the set-up of these articles... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.196.222.62 (talk • contribs) 10:20, January 14, 2007

Character Descriptions
I've been trying to move more specific descriptions and relatively minor events to the character pages, but I've noticed that several people continue to write details into this overview character page. What are the thoughts on this? I would think that this page would be a place for general character overviews, with detailed info elsewhere, but I might be in the minority. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.196.222.62 (talk) 03:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC).

Spoilers
This article is so full of spoilers it's unreal. Characters, summaries of each book. There should be no plot information in the characters section. And the main plot of each book should be taken out and put into said section. The summary, that is the paragraph preceding the title should have only general information about the book and a mere outline perhaps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.137.67.222 (talk) 11:38, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

"Gossip Girls" Article
This might be the wrong page to request it but could someone add one of those

"This article is about the ______. For the book, see Gossip Girl (novel). For the television series, see Gossip Girl (TV series)."

onto the top of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossip_Girls because I just typed in gossip girls in the search and I ended up at that page. It took me a few more tries to realized it is Gossip Girl without the "s". And as I can't seem to figure out how to add that tag could someone more experenced do it, incase other people get confused when they go to/search for "gossip girls". 64.203.19.96 (talk) 11:35, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Blair is the lead
All right then, since a few anonymous people seem to be having an issue with this :)...

Encyclopedic content must be verifiable. In this interview, which is included as a source in the article, Cecily von Ziegesar verifies that Serena was originally envisioned as the lead (which is currently mentioned in the Serena van der Woodsen article), but came to realise that Blair was her true main character. She's therefore named as such here and in her own article. It can't get anymore verified than a direct statement by the author herself. Those who tweak this are engaging in original research and contradicting the author's statement -- either because of WP:IDONTLIKEIT, or because of confusion due to the TV series, which bills Blair second. Either way, this should hopefully clear things up. -- James26 (talk) 20:38, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Another book in the series, scheduled for release in October 2009
Can it be added to the article that, according to Alloy Entertainment’s 2008 Frankfurt Foreign Rights Guide, another hardcover novel is scheduled to be published in October, about Serena, Nate, and Blair in college? (Also, does "book eleven" refer to the prequel, and if so, can I make that explicit in the article?) Thanks in advance! --Kletta (talk) 22:05, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I see now that there are eleven books in the main series. --Kletta (talk) 00:17, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, so...
Chuck is a secondary character? Why not the central ones? kashimjamed (talk) 20:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The official Website, cited in the article, does not currently list him among the central characters (unless it's been changed). Therefore, he's listed here as a secondary. Keep in mind that this is about the book series, not the TV show. -- James26 (talk) 03:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

TV series
Clearly most of the traffic to this page is looking for Gossip Girl (TV series). There should at least be a "For the TV series, see Gossip Girl (TV series)" at the top of the page.

 * The TV series is an adaptation of this work and already well linked in the lead and adaptation section. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 05:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

 * It's only linked in the adaptation section. There should be a link at the top of the article to avoid confusion, just like every other article for popular novels turned into TV series.  I've made the change myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.98.223 (talk • contribs) 00:03, September 21, 2009

 * No, it should not. It is an unnecessary disambig and has been removed. I have fixed the lead, which lost the sentence about the TV adaptation. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 12:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

The reasoning given in that warning not only makes not sense but is against Wiki policy. It is common practice in almost every novel or novel article to include a disambig link at the top of the page for it most well known adaptations in other media. This has nothing to do if it has been linked already multiple times in the article itself. The purpose of this is for convenience. Many people are coming to the page not for the novel series but for its TV adaptation. The link at the top allows them to immediately link to the page they are looking for and not search through the article. The only reason, I can see, why someone would not want the tag at the top of the page is for meaningless aesthetic reasons not wanting to alter the look of their article which is against wiki policy. 24.190.34.219 (talk) 15:06, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

 * The warning is not against wiki policy, nor is it "common practice" (and just because other low quality articles do it is not a reason to do it here). The television series is not a separate, confusable item, it is an adaptation of the same work. Per Wikipedia guidelines (there are no policies about this so please learn the difference before throwing around the terms), hatnotes should NOT be used for "Linking to articles that are highly related to the topic". Instead, as we have already done, it should be summarized in the article. So the removal of the link is per actual guidelines. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 15:23, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

I never said the warning was against wiki policy, I said not keeping the tag due to aesthetic reasons was what's against wiki policy (which is obvious if you read my full comment). So, please, don't accuse me of not being aware of Wiki policy when you yourself are using only the most tenuous justifications based on Wiki policy. hatnotes: "Hatnotes are meant to reduce confusion and direct readers to another article they might have been looking for, not for information about the subject of the article itself" Which is exactly what a hatnote directing someone to a different media adaptation of a work is doing, in addition to being two articles with similar names. The rule you quoted isn't concerning the same thing. If I was asking to have a hatnote that was a redirect to say "Characters in Gossip Girl" then yes what you cited would be applicable, but in this case it's a matter of a large subset of people searching for a different article and then instead of having a convenient re-direct, having to search through article text in order to find the correct link. As this article is about the novel series (not any other media adaptations), the redirect to the tv series is not "information about the subject of the article itself" which is what " should NOT be used for "Linking to articles that are highly related to the topic"" is referring to.24.190.34.219 (talk) 20:01, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

 * The guideline I quoted is exactly fitting for this situation. The adaptation is HIGHLY RELATED TO ITS SOURCE MATERIAL. Period. They are not different nor significantly different. This article is about Gossip Girl, period, which includes a summary of its adaptation(s). The adaptation is properly summarized adn linked. There is, again, no valid reason to have a hat not for an adaptation of the series. It would be no different from your example of hat noting to the character list. Same franchise, same media. And that is that. Again, no hat note will be added.-- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 20:12, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Except this article isn't about the franchise. It is very clearly an article about the novel series. IF this was indeed an article about the Gossip Girl franchise, then yes, the hatnote would not be necessary. As it's an article about the novel series, this isn't the case. It is not "same media" as you stated, a novel series and a TV adaptation are significantly different even if plot remains the same (production, crew, writers, author, reception, etc.), and the valid reason is that a large amount, if not most of the traffic to this page is looking for a different article. 24.190.34.219 (talk) 20:15, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

 * I would like to state I requested a third opinion from an admin regarding this hatnote issue, and I would like to remind Collectonian about WP:OWN, as you seem to present yourself as the final say in editing this article, in addition to WP:SPOILER as just looking at the page history you've made numerous edits specifically to remove spoilers (which you justified as teasers in your edit history) which IS against Wiki policy. Rather than outright deleting overly long or poorly worded summaries, they should be edited. 24.190.34.219 (talk) 18:12, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have not removed "spoilers", I've removed pointless teaser summaries, usually written in "teenspeak", that not only added NOTHING to the article, were beyond unprofessional, and usually made no sense. They didn't spoil anything because they didn't say anything, being almost entierly copy/pasted from other sources which violates WP:COPYVIO. It has nothing to do ownership, but with LAWS and policies. Try reading them sometime. And yes, I saw your request for 30, which has gone unanswered. Its always funny to me how people try to claim someone is being "own"y for actually enforcing guidelines and policies just because they don't like them. If you want to actually be useful, why not write proper, well written summaries of the novels to properly fill out the table, rather than the trash random people try to shove in. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 19:12, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Third Opinion
It is my opinion that a hat note should be included. Although I can understand how WP:HATNOTE can be interpreted to imply there shouldn't be a hat note I personally feel that this is an incorrect interpretation. My reading of the WP:RELATED sub-section is that it refers to the situation where one topic is clearly a sub-topic of the other, as in the example given. In that case reader's are likely to expect a general discussion of Extraterrestrial life at the main article and so not be surprised to have to go to a sub-section for more specific information on the cultural aspects. In my opinion this is not the case in this instance as someone looking for the TV series would expect the whole article to be on the TV series and as such we should have a hat note to get them to that article as quickly as possible - for a reader the TV series is not obviously a sub-topic of the book series (which they may not even be aware of). (If this article was about the franchise (i.e. there was a separate book article) then I'd agree a hat not would be inappropriate). This seems to me to be in keeping with WP:DISAMBIG (this is the primary topic and we're providing a link to another topic) which also comments on this issue and which seems not to be 100% compatible with WP:HATNOTE. I also think having a hat note is the way to cause the least surprise to readers so even if you do interpret WP:HATNOTE as to not allow a hat note in this case I would have one as a common sense exception. Dpmuk (talk) 10:54, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't get it....
Why must everytime I try to edit a page and insert the correct statement(s), it keeps getting deleted? I mean all I try to do is add summaries to the book sections and correct a few of the character biographies which are clearly wrong. I mean there is nothing offensive or insultive in my summaries and I know everything that goes on in Gossip Girl as I am the "number 1" fan. But if you refuse to edit the articles the way they should be written, why bother having a gossip girl page in the first place? :\ —Preceding unsigned comment added by MissGossip (talk • contribs) 18:25, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

 * You are not adding correct statements, you're spamming stuff from GG fansite's and inserting stolen, copyrighted material. The article IS properly written, as an encyclopedic article. Wikipedia is not a fansite, and its not some teeny bopper website. The insertion of inappropriate, non-neutral, personal opinions will always be reverted, as well as the insert of [{WP:SPAM|spam]] and fan-gushing. This is an encyclopedia, not a fansite. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 18:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Redirect
Why does searching for Serena Van Der Woodsen redirect to this page as opposed to her own page like all the other characters? Could someone correct that because I don't know how.80.175.231.74 (talk) 14:12, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Redirect to TV series

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: move Mkativerata (talk) 23:07, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Gossip Girl → Gossip Girl (novel series) — The TV Series is much more prominent/notable currently and should be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. OzW (talk) 07:52, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Gossip Girl (TV series) → Gossip Girl

I've read the massive debate regarding even including a hatnote to the TV Series, but I believe that any search on 'Gossip Girl' should lead to the page for the TV Series, not the book. While the book undoubtedly came first, an extremely high portion of traffic for this query would be for the TV Series. Several other 'more popular than the book' queries lead to the tv series/film article - The Graduate, Schindler's List, Big Fish, Forrest Gump to name just a few. Thoughts? DanEdmonds (talk) 15:15, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

 * I agree. As per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, the TV series does indeed, in my opinion, belong at Gossip Girl. You should probably request a move formally. Nymf hideliho! 16:16, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

 * That all seems very confusing. If only Wikipedia was a little easier to put these requests in... if you can do it, I'd appreciate that you would! DanEdmonds (talk) 13:41, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Can I reach consensus on this? DanEdmonds (talk) 03:18, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Agreed. Move (or put in a request to move) Gossip Girl → Gossip Girl (novel series) and Gossip Girl (TV series) → Gossip Girl, add a hatnote linking the new main page to this page, and remove the hatnote from this page.  The Vampire Diaries had a similar move earlier this year with the same reasoning.  It's been 2 months without any objections, so I think we can consider it a consensus. OzW (talk) 06:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I requested the move, as I can't do it myself. Added a movenotice to both pages in case anyone who hasn't seen this already wants to weigh in. I hope I did all of that correctly. It should be taken care of in a week or so if we still have a consensus. OzW (talk) 08:33, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Support – per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. ΣПD!ПG–STΛЯT  |  TΛLK  | 22:11, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

I've read the views of everyone preceding me and while it may be a wise decision to have the name changed and redirect all searches to the TV Series of Gossip Girl, maybe someone can link the article about the Gossip Girl Books within the TV Series article as an actual section, and visible in the contents. This would allow for more exposure to the books article as well. I support the change as long as this may be taken into consideration. KirtZJ (talk) 03:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

 * If you mean more exposure to the books themselves, see WP:SOAP (not accusing you, just reminding you that we need to keep this in mind). That being said, I've looked through Category:Television programs based on novels and can't find ANY that have their own section on the novels.  Doesn't necessarily mean there shouldn't be, but it doesn't help.  The article is about the TV series, not the franchise, so I don't think a section about the book really belongs in its own section there, unless it pertains directly to the TV series, e.g., a subsection under Production describing how the show was conceived and adapted from the novels (some info here if you want it).  You should propose it on the TV series' discussion page.  Otherwise, I think a hatnote at the top and the link in the first sentence should be enough. OzW (talk) 06:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Support How long until it's moved? Jayy008 (talk) 21:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Just waiting on an admin to do it. They're really backlogged over at WP:RM.  I haven't had time to learn the procedure to do it myself, though I think it still needs an admin's assistance for delete privileges at some point.  If you have experience with multi-page moves, feel free.  Otherwise, it might be a while. OzW (talk) 17:13, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
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 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was SPEEDIED. dbenbenn | talk 00:29, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Star Wars Uprising MUSH
Star Wars: Uprising MUSH (SWU) is a Star Wars-themed MUSH (Multi-User Shared Hallucination) starts this article, written by somebody who, er, claims to be the creator of Star Wars Uprising MUSH. To me, it sounds less unappealing than does the Multi-Couch-Potato Shared Hallucination of the commercial product, but I don't suppose this counts. (After all, we must genuflect to the media moguls, and keep spending.) Vanity starwarscruft. -- Hoary 09:27, 2005 Feb 2 (UTC)
 * Delete. Oh, my god... HowardB 10:09, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, As much as I like MUD's in general, we ain't a listing service. Inter 11:42, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. There are thousands of MU*s on the internet, and this one shows no evidence of being any more encyclopedic than the rest. —Korath (Talk) 11:46, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sorry about this. I saw the other list on MU%2A_games and figured it was acceptable, but wasn't really thinking.  It wasn't my intention to subvert the system, so go ahead and remove it -- there's plenty of other channels for it, anyway. --Tarison 12:38, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete. Based on the preceding,  I have added the  tag to the article. --BM 12:42, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedied - David Gerard 17:45, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:BMT Lexington Avenue Line

Comments
These were separate lines, and the line downtown was always called the Fifth Avenue el. Together they were sometimes referred to as the "Fifth and Third Avenue els." Their service patterns were different. The primary service on the Fifth Avenue el was the Culver Line right up to 1940. The BMT #6 service, called the Fifth Avenue el was actually the secondary service which operated as a shuttle from 36th St. to 65th Street in off houts. It was also known as the "Bay Ridge el". -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 09:27, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Brighton Line
There could have been no direct connection to Brighton Line trains from the Lex. Passengers would have to have made their way to the LIRR Atlantic Branch on foot, then taken an LIRR train to Bedford Station--really a roundabout way to get to Coney Island. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 09:45, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Actually the article says "At East New-York passengers can take either the Manhattan or Brighton Beach route." Either way it was a transfer to a more traditional railroad; maybe Brighton Beach trains went along the LIRR back then. --SPUI 09:50, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Which article? Trains of the BF&CI went to Flatbush Avenue, not East New York. LIRR trains went to Brighton Beach by trackage arrangement, so either way it wouldn't have been BF&CI. BUT, by 1885, the trackage arrangement between the Brighton and the LIRR ended because the LIRR had leased the NY&MB, so they were competitors. This drovethe BF&CI into bankruptcy. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 10:22, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * A Short Cut to Coney Island, New York Times June 15, 1885 page 5 --SPUI 10:43, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah, I see your confusion. People could take the Brighton Beach route, but they had to take the LIRR to get to it. The BF&CI did not make any kind of direct connection. If you want to mention the Brighton, I think it needs some qualification. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 10:52, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Parallel to Bridge
Why do you think the BERR station wasn't parallel to Brooklyn Bridge? I've seen it described that way and there is a picture of the station, taken from Fulton Street. It was clearly parallel to the bridge. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 10:22, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, the map I saw shows the York Street line at about a 45 degree angle. The Fulton Street line was almost parallel, and the York Street line was pretty much parallel at the transfer station to the bridge. If I can find it, I'll post it here. --SPUI 10:43, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * ARe you looking at the "Tracks of New York" Karl Groh map? It's wrong. Honest mistake. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 10:52, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Actually I was looking at Image:1897 Rand McNally Brooklyn.jpg. It's not as clear as I thought - its possible the line came under the bridge and then curved again, or it's possible Rand McNally was as bad then as they are now. --SPUI 10:53, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Also, can you look over the recent changes I made to the first abandonment? I'm not sure I got everything correct. --SPUI 10:43, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Sadly, I have to punch out now. Will eagerly see your replies and work later on. Cheers! Cecropia | explains it all ® 10:52, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Kings County Elevated?
How did the KCERR come into the picture? That was the Fulton Street Line. They didn't operate either the Myrtle or the Lex. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 10:37, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Gah, that was my confusion. Who operated the Myrtle? --SPUI 10:43, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Union Elevated Railroad, combined to become the Brooklyn Union Elevated Railroad. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 10:48, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Services
mentions that, at the time, all Lexington Avenue trains ended at Gates Avenue. --NE2 12:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Map????
Could we please have a map? Dogru144 (talk) 03:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Old portions on the Jamaica Line
This citation needed tag in the one line in the lead paragraph bothers me; The structure above Broadway and Fulton Street is now part of the BMT Jamaica Line. East of Alabama Avenue in East New York, the original structure still exists (albeit reinforced), and is the oldest such structure in the subway system.[citation needed]

I could swipe every single tag of every station between Gates Avenue (BMT Jamaica Line) and Van Siclen Avenue (BMT Jamaica Line) but that would be just pure overkill. Anyone have a better solution? -User:DanTD (talk) 05:03, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * UPDATE - Well, it looks like overkill is the only solution. -User:DanTD (talk) 21:34, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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User:Lucilla Borio

Lucilla Borio (born in Torino in 1958) is a founding member and a resident of *Torri Superiore Ecovillage, Ventimiglia, Italy. From 1999 to 2003 she served as the General Secretary of the *Global Ecovillage Network of Europe, and presently chairs the Board of Directors of *GEN. She is an associate member of *International Institute of Faciltation and Consensus.

She runs courses on Facilitation and Consensus and facilitates on a continuous basis the Ventimiglia Laboratorio di Cittadinanza Attiva. Together with her husband Massimo Candela, she also teaches courses on Ecovillage Creation and Management.

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Mark Skaife

Mark Stephen Skaife OAM (born 3 April 1967) is an Australian former racing driver. Skaife is a five-time champion of the V8 Supercar Championship Series, including its predecessor, the Australian Touring Car Championship, as well as a six-time Bathurst 1000 winner. On 29 October 2008, he announced his retirement from full-time touring car racing. Since retiring from driving, Skaife has worked as a commentator and presenter for the series for both the Seven Network and Fox Sports Australia.

He is the director of motorsport for design and engineering consultancy - IEDM, which oversaw the reconfiguration of Albert Park Circuit - for which he has been working since he retired from racing.

Biography
Skaife was born in Gosford, New South Wales, the son of touring car racer, Russell Skaife. Skaife is married to his second wife Toni and has three children: Mitch, Mia and Tilly – Mitch born from his first wife Belinda. He attended Wyong High School and is a known supporter of National Rugby League club the Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles.

In 2004, he was awarded the Medal of the Order of Australia, for services to motor racing and charity. In 2006, Skaife set a Guinness World Record with the fastest speed of 277.16 km/h (172.21 mp/h) for a production ute, whilst driving a HSV Maloo in the Wimmera in Western Victoria.

Early years
Skaife began racing karts in the 1980s in his native New South Wales, before moving to Melbourne to complete his apprenticeship under Fred Gibson. His first car race was at Amaroo Park in 1984, at the wheel of a Holden Torana XU-1 sports sedan, which was partly built by his father, Russell. In 1985 Skaife joined the NSW Ford Laser Series, finishing second in the series. Skaife again finished runner up in the 1986 NSW Laser Series and winning the Victorian Series of the same year. Skaife was due to compete in his maiden race at Bathurst in 1986, however his co-driver and team owner, Peter Williamson, crashed the team's Toyota Celica Supra MA61 at close to 260 km/h during practice with Williamson suffering a broken jaw in the crash due to the cars onboard fire extinguisher breaking free of its mountings and hitting the veteran Sydney driver in the mouth (Williamson wore an open face helmet). Subsequently, with Williamson confined to a hospital bed in Bathurst and the Supra in need of major repair, the entry was withdrawn.

In 1987 Skaife won the Australian 2.0 Litre Touring Car Championship in a Gibson Motorsport prepared Nissan Gazelle, before finishing 19th on Bathurst 1000 debut in same car (co-driven by Grant Jarret). The Bathurst result was somewhat controversial due to some alleged cheating during final qualifying. In 1987 Bathurst had become a round of the inaugural World Touring Car Championship and under the FIA's rules, all drivers had to qualify within 110% of the fastest time in their class and within 130% of the fastest overall time. Due to the different class structure of the WTCC compared to the ATCC, the Gazelle was in Class 2 against the BMW M3 and Alfa Romeo 75 (instead of against the 1.6 L Toyota Corolla's) and during Friday qualifying Jarret had been struggling to post the required time and it looked like the car would be a non-qualifier. After struggling for speed, during the morning session Jarret suddenly found the pace required and managed to easily qualify for the race. However, it was alleged that it had actually been Skaife, dressed in Jarret's race suit and wearing his helmet, who had actually set the time with some pointing to the fact that Skaife was nowhere to be seen in the pits when Jarret allegedly set his qualifying time (after returning to the pits the car was driven straight into the Nissan team garage in the pit paddock with the door immediately closed which only fuelled the speculation). Nissan team boss Fred Gibson refuted these claims at the time but years later admitted that Skaife had indeed qualified the car as Jarret. Ironically Jarret's fastest race lap in the Gazelle (2:38.71) was actually faster than the qualifying time Skaife had set posing as Jarret (2:38.94).

During 1988 Skaife appeared at selected touring car events in Gibson's factory Nissan squad driving the Group A Nissan Skyline HR31 GTS-R. He failed to finish both the Sandown 500 (diff failure when Skaife was leading on lap 94 of 129) and Bathurst 1000 alongside George Fury (the Skyline, with Fury at the wheel, had lost its fan belt at full speed on Conrod Straight instantly cooking the turbocharged engine on just lap 17).

In 1989 Skaife made four ATCC starts as third driver in the Gibson Nissan team, starring in the wet at Winton on the way to fifth place. He paired with Jim Richards for endurance races, winning Sandown 500 before taking his first Bathurst 1000 podium in the Group A Nissan Skyline HR31 with third place.

Between 1991 and 1993 Skaife won 3 consecutive Australian Drivers Championships (ADC), earning 3 CAMS Gold Stars. In 1991& 1992 he was driving the Spa 003, switching to the Lola T91/50 for 1993 each run by Gibson Motorsport.

Australian Touring Car Championship ATCC (1990–2001)

1990 – Graduates to full-time drive with Nissan team following retirement of Fury. Finishes 14th in ATCC having switched from HR31 to R32 GT-R model Skyline midseason. Finishes 18th at Bathurst alongside Richards having suffered mechanical problems. Sustains back injury after rolling GT-R in Australian Grand Prix support race.

1991 – Wins three ATCC rounds, including his maiden victory at Round 3 at Wanneroo, WA. Skaife scores more points than any other driver during the season, but loses title to Jim Richards under drop-worst-round rules. Takes dominant Bathurst 1000 win (with Richards) in record total time, in the Nissan GT-R R32, which was the first Japanese car to win Bathurst. Also records a Bathurst DNF after driving the team's second car late in the race under cross-entering rules.

1992 – Wins four ATCC rounds on his way to the championship. Takes second Bathurst 1000 win with the GT-R R32 as the race was red flagged due to wet conditions.

1993 – Stays with Gibson team during switch from Nissan GT-R R32 to Holden Commodore VP under new Group 3A rules. Finishes sixth in ATCC after failing to win a round. Takes second at Bathurst alongside Richards following a race-long duel with eventual winners Larry Perkins and Gregg Hansford. Competes in FIA Touring Car World Cup at Monza with Nissan Castrol Racing, finishing 35th.

1994 – Wins four rounds (including first three in succession) on his way to a second ATCC title. Finishes second (with Richards) in first Sandown 500 start in five years. Crashes out early in wet conditions at Bathurst.

1995 – Misses opening ATCC round after enormous pre-season testing crash ahead of the Winfield Triple Challenge at Eastern Creek. Eventually finishes sixth in points standings with one round win driving the Holden Commodore VR. Leads Bathurst 1000 comfortably before mechanical trouble strikes nearing half distance.

1996 – Gibson team scales down to one car for ATCC following end of tobacco advertising. Finishes ninth in points with best round result of third. Records 13th in Sandown 500 (with Gary Waldon and Mark Noske) and seventh at Bathurst (with John Cleland).

1997 – Competes in just five of 10 ATCC rounds in the Holden Commodore VS as funding issues continue at Gibson team. Ends season 13th after best round result of third. Drives Lister Storm alongside Julian Bailey and Tommy Erdos in Le Mans 24 Hours, but fails to finish following mechanical issues. Makes first appearance with Mobil Holden Racing Team driving alongside Peter Brock in Sandown 500, scoring pole and finishing 12th. Again on pole at Bathurst but retires from the race while leading.

1998 – First full season with HRT, signed to replace Peter Brock, finishing third in ATCC without winning a round. Teams with Craig Lowndes in new VT model Commodore at Sandown to finish second. Pair show dominant form at Bathurst but finish just sixth after tyre issues.

1999 – Wins six rounds of Shell Championship Series (the most of any driver) but again finishes third in points in the Holden Commodore VT. Teams with Paul Morris for endurance races, recording 22nd in new Queensland 500 event (after being delayed by accident damage) and third at Bathurst.

2000 – Wins four rounds, including Clipsal 500 Adelaide and Queensland 500, on way to Shell Championship Series title. Seals championship with sixth place alongside Craig Lowndes in Bathurst finale.

2001 – Takes four round wins, including the Bathurst 1000 alongside Tony Longhurst, to claim Shell Championship Series title. Secures crown at penultimate event in Pukekohe – the first championship round to be held outside of Australia, driving the Holden Commodore VX.

V8 Supercars Championship Series (2002–2008)

2002 – Enjoys dominant V8 Supercars Championship Series victory in the Holden Commodore VX, having won seven of the 13 rounds, including the first five in succession. Season highlights also include a fourth triumph in the Bathurst 1000, partnered by former teammate Jim Richards, and a second Clipsal 500 trophy.

2003 – Wins Clipsal 500 and Sandown 500 (alongside Todd Kelly) on his way to third in the championship in the Holden Commodore VY. Announced as new owner of Holden Racing Team mid-season following earlier collapse of founding owner Tom Walkinshaw Racing. Finishes eighth at Bathurst alongside Todd Kelly after late-race mechanical black flag for loose bodywork while running second. At the final race of the season at Eastern Creek Skaife and Russell Ingall were involved in a race incident in which both drivers were later fined by race officials. Both drivers also had points deducted, which left Skaife finishing the year in sixth place in the championship.

2004 – Fails to win a championship round for the first time in six years. Finishes season 12th in points with a best round result of second at Oran Park. Out of contention early at Bathurst with mechanical trouble (teamed with Todd Kelly).

2005 – Wins fifth Bathurst 1000 crown driving the Holden Commodore VZ, this time teamed with Todd Kelly. Records fifth place in V8 Supercars Championship Series.

2006 – Finishes only 16th in V8 Supercars Championship Series despite seven wins. Crashes out of Bathurst 1000 on opening lap after enduring mechanical issues while starting from pole position (teamed with Garth Tander).

2007 – Records eighth in V8 Supercars Championship Series with one round win, driving the Holden Commodore VE – finishing behind teammate Kelly in the standings for the fourth consecutive year. Misses Sandown 500 due to appendix surgery before crashing out of Bathurst 1000 in closing stages. Transfers partial ownership of HRT back to Tom Walkinshaw. Skaife reached 200 championship round starts in the final event of 2007.

2008 – Joined at HRT by the then reigning champion Garth Tander. Wins L&H 500 at Phillip Island alongside Garth Tander. Finishes 12th in Bathurst 1000 after mid-race crash. Confirms 2008 will be final season as full-time driver following Gold Coast event. Ends season 14th in points with a 27th place round result in Oran Park finale. Announces sale of remainder of HRT to Walkinshaw.

V8 Supercars Championship Series – Endurance Races (2009–2011)
Following Skaife's retirement from full-time driving, he announced that he would compete in the V8 Supercars endurance races for 2009, an arrangement that he continued into 2010 and 2011. This was a highly successful venture which gave Skaife further wins at Philip Island in 2010 & 2011 and his final Bathurst victory in 2010.

2009 – Skaife teams with Greg Murphy at Tasman Motorsport for endurance races, finishing 11th in Phillip Island 500 and fourth in Bathurst 1000.

2010 – Skaife joins TeamVodafone to win Phillip Island 500 and Bathurst 1000 alongside Craig Lowndes.

2011 – Skaife continues as an endurance-only driver in V8 Supercars Championship for third consecutive year. Teams with Lowndes to score second consecutive Phillip Island 500 victory before placing second in Bathurst 1000. Skaife announced on 17 October 2011, that he will retire as an endurance racer in order to take up the role as chairman of the newly formed V8 Supercars Commission.

Mark Skaife ends his driving career with 482 race starts, 90 race wins, 42 event wins, 41 pole positions and 5 drivers championships.

Media career
Skaife joined the Seven Network following his full-time retirement. He became a co-commentator for the V8 Supercars series alongside Neil Crompton and Matthew White, continuing in this position until Seven lost the rights after the 2014 season. In 2015, with the broadcast rights moving to a shared deal between Fox Sports and Network Ten, Skaife joined Fox Sports. He took on a presenter role, without commentating, and also co-hosted their V8 Supercars television series ‘’Inside Supercars’’. From 2016, Skaife returned to the commentary box as a commentator, whilst retaining his presenting roles at Fox Sports.

Skaife has four books published to as of 2020:
 * Diary of a Champion (2002) by Mark Skaife
 * The Racing Years (2009) by Andrew Clarke
 * Life In The Fastlane (2010) by Mark Skaife & Andrew Clarke
 * Mark Skaife: The Complete Illustrated Autobiography (2020) by Mark Skaife & Andrew Clarke

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Talk:Geographical midpoint of Europe

About Estonian center
Please delete false info about Estonian centre. Yes, they have wanted it to open it as somekinda tourist attraction, but its calculated so wrong. Check the globe and you see it. Someone has taken this center from who knows how wrong geographical projection, not from precise repsresentation of reality. For example i have here Europe in Mercator projection (makes landmasses near poles really large) and here centre looks like in Finland. http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/LA2-Europe-UTM-zones.png/111px-LA2-Europe-UTM-zones.png Scandinavia is so big :D! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.126.102.10 (talk) 12:36, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Header
Shouldn't all centres be mentioned in the header? So far it seems that we're supporting one version, while the rest are merely claims... Halibutt 09:32, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC) : Yes, this is very POV. As someone noted below, the METHODOLOGY supporting each claim, including French Nat Geo office's, should be clarified. 72.183.52.92 (talk) 13:15, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Two similar articles

 * There are two articles Geographic Centre of Europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_Centre_of_Europe and Geographical centre of Europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_centre_of_Europe - both containig almost the same data - with minor differences. The second one has also the possibility of being redirected from Geographic centre of Europe. The difference seems to me to lye in the capital or lowercase "c" in "centre". I don't know how do it but one of them should be removed - and have the infomation transferred from the other. (I've been editing both of them but couldn't synchronize them). noychoH 18:18, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

CENTRE OF EUROPE?
If you look at the map of Europe then you can clearly see that claim of center of Europe to be in Lithuania is ridiculous. There are regions we all call Western Europe, Central Europe and Eastern Europe. Accoring to common sence that means that centre of Europe should be in the central portion of Europe. Coutries that have always been seen as a Central Europe members are Austria, Switzerland, Bohemia, Hungary and may be Slovakia. In the middle ages even German Holy Empire (Central European Union) decided to place their Capital in Prague (Bohemia) and then in Vienna (Austria) as they expanded more to the east. Those two ancient capital cities can truly claim central or heart of Europe status. If you look at the map, Bohemia / Austria regions are the very central part of most maps that show Europe today. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

 * According to the tourism office of the Lithuanian site, the French calculation is based on a Europe whose extreme points are as follows: "The northern point was defined at Spitsbergen (80° 45’N – 20°35’E), the southern point in the Canary Islands (27°38’N – 17°58’W), the eastern point at the crest of the Urals (67°59’N – 66°10’E) and the western point in the Azores (39°27’N – 31°16’W)." The geographical centre of the continent may of course be very different from the demographical centre. Also, remember that the centre of Europe is not necessarily the heart of Europe - if your heart is in the centre of your body, I'd suggest consulting a cardiac specialist asap ;-) Man vyi 11:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Dear anonym, it seems you forgot that we are talking about the GEOGRAPHICAL center of Europe, not political. It means, that you must have in account the fact, that Europe's east boundary is Urals mountain.
 * I understand your incomprehension, because almost nobody of west-europeans can agree with the fact, that Russia contains quite a big part of Europe. So, take the GEOGRAPHICAL map once again, and maybe now the claim of center of Europe in Lithuania won't be so ridiculous.
 * Aiwaz--88.102.114.146 07:59, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I was of course supporting Lithuania's right to a claim to the geographical centre according to the French calculations. According to the previous anonymous poster, the claim was ridiculous; I countered that statement. I don't think I can reasonably be accused of incomprehension! Man vyi 08:21, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought both two paragraphs are yours. Aiwaz88.102.114.146 18:21, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Since when are the canary islands a geographical part of Europe? They are only politically part of Europe. So too is French Guyana so maybe it should be an extreme point too.

question - Centermost village by population
Has someone calculated the centermost village in Europe by population? Common sense tells that it should be south of the geographical centerpoints but where exactly? Somewhere near the slovak, chech, austrian border? Well it doesn't matter... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

I don't know if we mean the same: I'm interested in a "Center of mass" of a Population density-figure of Europe. I mean denser-populated areas should have more weight and empty regions have less influence. Is there a software to calculate this? ChrisR --79.21.106.156 (talk) 14:12, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Wrong coordinates
The coordinates for the Ukrainian "centre of Europe" given in the article (48°30′N 23°23′E) cannot be correct. I have seen these coordinates mentioned in other sources as well, but the problem is this point is nowhere near the village of Dilove. The downtown area of the village itself is at 47°56′N 24°10.5′E (which is about 85 km from the point given in the article). The "centre of Europe" is outside the village. I visited the place 15 years ago and I remember that it is right next to the highway, but I cannot remember if it is north or south of the village and how far. But many sources mention a railway bridge nearby (and I vaguely remember seeing it as well). Based on the topographic map of the area,, the bridge is about 3.5 km NNE of the village downtown and there is actually a mark on the map next to the bridge denoting some kind of "monument". Also, this article (in Ukrainian) mentions that the point is between the villages of Dilove and Kostylivka, which again is consistent with its being north of Dilove. Based on this, the Ukrainian claim to the "centre of Europe" is at 47°57.5′N 24°11′E. --132.204.68.109 12:49, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanx for VERY interesting, insightful remarks. I have personally never been there. The coordinates you put under a question are mentioned virtually EVERYWHERE, even in the Ukrainian article you have made a link to. And I remember having seen somewhere a photo of the original monumement on which these coordinates are also written. This of course does not prove that the coordinates are wrong bacause the actual location of the monument might not be the one that it should be placed in. (problems with displaced monuments are not so uncommon in the history of mankind). But of course this raises the whole question again and it should be examined against other sources - e.g. visiting the point (48°30′N 23°23′E) might show some light. I will make a note of this problem in the article. Regards, noychoH 09:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Journey to the Centre of Europe / Saaremaa
Does anyone know how Saaremaa came to be calculated as the centre of Europe? I am going on a journey with my family to visit some of the different centres of Europe, including Torun, Suchowola, Saaremaa and Bernotai. We leave London next week in a Land Rover Defender. Please follow us at www.journey2.tv. All suggestions, advice, comments will be appreciated! Gozols 23:46, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Tag
In Revision as of 08:46, 20 January 2007 User:CieloEstrellado placed an tag atop this article. The tag was subsequently changed to by SmackBot. However, the article has been referenced by User:Donarreiskoffer since than and therefore, I'm removing the tag due to its redundancy. --Poeticbent  talk   15:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Other calculations
The two sections added by unsigned Special:Contributions/ (talk) seem to be an original research, albeit interesting, yet unfortunately full of errors. There is no point Georgia reaches Caspian Sea, even less together with Russia and Azerbaijan. If one calculates the outer boundary of Europe on the Caucasus, it is WITHIN the Azerbaijan that Caucasus approaches Caspian See, and not on the border with Russia.

The second section contains an internal contradiction. If one excludes islands, one cannot take into account Crete. The south of Pelopones must be the point. The westernmost point in this case lies in Portugal, not in Gibraltar. Maybe the author of these words could correct these. NoychoH 19:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Ukraine section
At the end of the Ukraine section, the article page refers to a talk page, which is a no-no according to Wikipedia rules... AnonMoos 16:54, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Frauenkirchen patent?

 * The Austrian town of Frauenkirchen, near the border to Hungary, holds a patent (Österreichisches Patentamt, Aktenzeichen AM 7738/2003) for being the geophysical centre of Europe (not of the EU).

Has anyone verified this? At the site of the Österreichisches Patentamt (http://www.patentamt.at/Publikationen/) I am unable to locate any patent with reference number 7738/2003 or 200307738.

As a European patent attorney I cannot imagine how to patent a location as such. Perhaps they meant registering the place as a geographical region of origin, like Champagne or Bavaria? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.163.164.67 (talk) 07:25, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

let's put everything clear
state clearly methodology and then the centre, because there are many centres and all of them are correct, so please state clearly (not like this messy article) ALL used methodologies and their centres. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.147.212 (talk) 15:00, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Guiness book of records
There is a dubious statement in the article that Guiness book of records only recognizes the claim in Lithuania as the centre of Europe. Can anyone point out where this originates from? I have found a hundred Lithuanian pages repeating this claim in verbatim with no additional information, while the only English sources are copies from Wikipedia. I have also written to Guiness World Records and got an answer that they do not consider these kind of claims for records since they are not something that can be beaten. The only connection to GBR that I could find is that a statue in the park that is close to the "centre" of Europe is recognized by the book as the largest TV statue. Can anybody find a better explanation or should I remove this statement from the article?No longer a penguin (talk) 16:02, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

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I do not understand how Brexit may shift centre of EU as UK has no extreme points of EU.--Anatoliy ( Talk ) 18:36, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

 * This too has confused me (well maybe not, I just think it’s wrong). It would be like if France left the EU, how on earth would the midpoint change? Oldoratorian (talk) 18:30, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

 * That's very easy to explain, if you understand what is a "geometrical centre of a figure", it is the point of gravity equilibrium of that figure, which of course depends in some way on the extreme points of the figure, but also (and in a much more important way) on the shape of the figure. Let take an example, if you had a cardboard figure of the shape of the EU, if you put it on the tip of a needle placed under the centre of the EU, the figure would remain stable, flat, horizontal, without bending to any side. If some part of the figure is removed, than automatically the centre-point shifts to another place, and the figure loses its equilibrium, bends, until the needle supporting it is moved to under the new centre of gravity. Obviously there is one such point of equilibrium before Brexit and another one of it after Brexit.

Nota Bene, the centre of gravity does not necessarily lie under a certain point of the landmass in question. E.g. the geographical centre of Norway in this sense lies somewhere in Sweden. ;-) noychoH (talk) 17:12, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

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