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Talk:Analogue filter

Renamed to analogue
Moved from Analog to Analogue (as in analogous filter) - Rehnn83 19th June 06
 * I don't think the adjective "analogous" has been used in an engineering context. 84.227.254.143 (talk) 12:22, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Wrong name/description
An analog filter need not be described by a differential equation. In fact, an analog signal need not be a continuous-time signal. All that is required is that the values ("range") of the signal come from a continuum, just like quantities in the physical world. Discrete-time signals are still analog signals. They only become "digital" signals after they are quantized (i.e., "coded"). This page content (or its name) should be updated as to not mislead people to think "analog" has anything to do with continuous time. In fact, perhaps it should be removed entirely. —TedPavlic (talk/contrib/@) 00:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you seriously suggesting deleting such a substantial article merely because you don't like the title? That's almost trollish.  Sp in ni ng  Spark  17:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

 * Nearly every section has a main article, and much of the other content can probably be merged into (or may already be a part of) Electronic filter. Additionally, the title is misleading/easily misunderstood. Furthermore, much of the content on this page would have a better chance of getting upkeep if it were on more visible (and already existing) pages. —TedPavlic (talk/contrib/@) 12:26, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

 * That is a stunning series of invalid reasons.
 * much of the content on this page would have a better chance of getting upkeep if it were on more visible (and already existing) pages.
 * Do you mean it would be on more peoples' watchlist? That is not an acceptable reason for removing an article, articles exist on the merits of their content only.  Besides which you actually have no idea how many watchlists this is on, that information is kept secret, deliberately so to prevent vandals obtaining lists of unwatched pages.  As for your comment about already existing pages, if you had troubled to check the history of this page you would find that it has existed since 23rd January 2003, one of our more elderly articles.  On the other hand I note that you have proposed merging into Electronic filter which has only existed since 10th May 2005.  By the way, it is rather poor etiquette to propose a merge at another page and not place a link to the discussion at the page proposed for merging.
 * Nearly every section has a main article
 * First of all that is obviously not true, even at a cursory glance at the article: in particular realisability, equivalence and approximation, all important concepts in filter design are not covered in any sort of detail anywhere else on Wikipedia as far as I know. Nor is Darlington's famous and much used insertion loss method, it does not get so much as a mention in other articles.  Secondly, even if it were so that there were a main article for every section, there would still be a place on Wikipedia for an overview of the whole subject.
 * The thrust of this objection seems to be the implication that the article consists of pasted bits of other articles. Even if true, it does not invalidate the justification for an overview article, however, it is not even close to being true.  This article has been written from scratch using new sources, in some cases specially obtained for the sole purpose of writing this article.  In the case of the main two main articles on network synthesis and image filters, there may be a common turn of phrase, but that is only because I wrote those articles also.  Much of the material was chosen for this article for the very reason that it did not appear in the previous articles.
 * much of the other content can probably be merged into (or may already be a part of) Electronic filter
 * The claim that material here may already be part of electronic filter is a claim that could only be made by someone who has not read both articles. It categorically is not.  If you merge this article in whole, you will then have an article that is so long that it will be suggested to break it up again.  Besides which, this article covers acoustic and mechanical filters which is really not appropriate material for electronic filter.
 * An analog filter need not be described by a differential equation
 * A correct statement which the article does not dispute. The article merely claims that linear filters are described by linear differential equations.  Even were the article in error, correction of the error is the proper course, not suggesting deletion.

 * The only point I accept (although I certainly do not accept it as a reason for deletion) is that the article does not fully cover all analogue filters. The limitation in the scope is clearly stated at the beginning of the article: passive linear analogue electronic filters from an historical perspective (although the "electronic" bit should now be dropped since the article has strayed into other areas).  I limited the scope merely because the article had been under construction in userspace for a long time and, frankly, that was the limit of what I wanted to write about.  There is no restriction on others adding to the article to extend it.  It could be moved to a new title of course, but it would remain the only "analogue filter" article in existence and analogue filter would become a redirect to the new article.  That makes it a pretty pointless exercise in my book, there is no point doing anything like that until there is more material on Wikipedia making it worhtwile breaking into different articles.
 *  Sp in ni ng  Spark  14:53, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

 * Responding to "This page content (or its name) should be updated as to not mislead people to think "analog" has anything to do with continuous time. In fact, perhaps it should be removed entirely." I have no idea which readers would be so misled. There's no need to change the name of the article. There's certainly no need to remove it (!?!) entirely. Binksternet (talk) 17:28, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

No citation templates in this article?
Is there anyone besides User:Spinningspark who condemns the use of citation templates in this article? --bender235 (talk) 12:25, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I am going to support User:Spinningspark in this specific case (see GA review): usage of templates is not obligatory up to GA level, it indeed scares novice WP editors, but the major argument is historical - old sources of this article can't be checked by bots, thus no need for templates. Materialscientist (talk) 22:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

 * Those templates aren't just there for bots, but also for human readers, who sure find it helpful to have a consistent citation style within Wikipedia. Also, I don't see how it "scares" new editors, since no one demands them to add citations only with those templates. That can be done later by other Wikipedia users. --bender235 (talk) 22:42, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

 * Don't get me wrong, I myself use templates everywhere, but please understand the others' arguments: (i) consistent formatting has little to do with templates; (ii) novice editors often do not understand how to input templates and mistype their fields, messing the citations, whereas they are fine without templates; (iii) mixing up templates and no-templates does result in inconsistent formatting. Nothing is clear-cut here, off course you can emulate any template by text. Materialscientist (talk) 22:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

 * But emulating a citation template by text destroys the whole idea of having flexible references that can be modified in style in the future (if necessary). Also, those citation templates will implement a citation microformat once it is available, which enables bots and search engines to index those references much easier (just like the hCard microformat we implemented to all those biography infoboxes a while ago). --bender235 (talk) 07:21, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

 * Those are benefits of templates, and they are true, but there are drawbacks as well (just to add one, a typo is usually invisible in templates, but is clear in no-template formats). The point is "current policies" do not require use of templates. If you glance here you might realize how unshaped are the citation standards yet. Materialscientist (talk) 07:56, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Four word title? Why not make it five? Or go back to two.
This page was recently renamed to make it four words long. It went from "analogue filter" to "passive analogue filter development." Going back to my old comment and its responses: —TedPavlic (talk/contrib/@) 13:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If it's a good idea to make the title this precise, then why not add "continuous-time" to that? Analog does not imply continuous time. There are plenty of discrete-time analog PWM devices, for example. Common applications of 555 times generate analog-"coded" PWM signals. Likewise, sample and hold devices can be used to do analog discrete-time linear filtering (e.g., sum weighted versions of samples of analog signals). So if you want the TITLE of this page to really match its content, you should either add a discrete-time section or add "continuous-time" to the title.
 * It was argued that most industry people say "analog filter" when they are actually picturing a "passive continuous-time analog filter." Hence, even though it's incorrect to be so general, it's so commonplace that it's better to be recognizable than be correct. By this logic, the page should be un-renamed.
 * Forgive me, I know nothing about the previous discussion. Just outsider's comments: (i) The title should be understood by non-specialist. Most people can guess what digital/analogue means, but "continuous-time" is jargon (time is always continuous) (ii) Words "passive" and "development" were necessary to specify the article coverage, but the title should be as concise as possible. Materialscientist (talk) 22:46, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm saying that most people can't guess correctly at what digital and analogue mean. In particular, most lay people assume that digital implies discrete time (and discrete value) and that analogue implies continuous time (and continuous value). Likewise, this page implies that all "passive analogue filter development" goes on in continuous-time domains when that is certainly not the case. Moreover, this page reflects the misconception that the two major schools of filter development are analogue and digital. In fact, they are continuous time and discrete time (and now, with the emergence of hybrid systems showing up in control and signal processing, hybrid time). Additional details about whether a signal is analogue or digital (i.e., whether the value space is constrained) have more to do with the noise characteristics of the filter than the actual filter design. —TedPavlic (talk/contrib/@) 13:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This, with proper referencing, might be worth adding into some article as a note, but it is too heavy for the titles. Materialscientist (talk) 22:24, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Regardless, I think it's strange to have a title that cannot be bolded within the first sentence on the page. —TedPavlic (talk/contrib/@) 12:47, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I noticed that too. Is it necessary to have the title bolded in the lead? Materialscientist (talk) 12:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes and no. From WP:BOLDTITLE:
 * "As a general rule, the first (and only the first) appearance of the article's subject should be as early as possible in the first sentence and should be in boldface. The Solar System consists of the Sun and those celestial objects bound to it by gravity."The article's subject is usually the same as the page title, but not always. In lists (including outlines, indexes, and glossaries), the subject is generally preceded by the article type (such as "List of"). The article type should not be presented as the subject of the article, only the part after it should. For example, in Outline of Africa, the first sentence of the lead should describe Africa, and present it in bold – not Outline of Africa (the article is not about outlines of Africa, it is presenting an article on Africa in outline form). If the title of a page is descriptive it does not need to appear verbatim in the main text, and even if it does it should not be in boldface. So, for example, Electrical characteristics of dynamic loudspeakers begins with: "A dynamic loudspeaker driver's chief electrical characteristic is its electrical impedance versus frequency."
 * Additionally, from WP:MOSBOLD:
 * "If the article topic does not have a commonly accepted name, but is merely descriptive (e.g., history of the United States), the title does not need to appear in the first sentence, and is not bolded if it does."
 * So, if you interpret "subject" literally, then maybe "analog filter" should be bolded. However, with the loudspeaker example, maybe nothing should be bolded. —TedPavlic (talk/contrib/@) 13:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ted, you give 555 timer applications as an example of a discrete-time application, but this application is excluded by "passive". Do you have any examples of passive discrete-time applications?  I do not think such a thing is strictly possible, so there is no point making the title more specific if you are still encompassing the same set of circuits.  Anyway, I was personally quite happy with the original 2-word title.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  18:38, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I will concede that so long as the article's topic is explicitly passive AND focuses on physical implementations, it's safe to assume that signals discussed will all have continuous-time domains. My issue was when the title was "analog filter." An "analog filter" arguably describes an extremely broad class of filters encompassing anything that outputs a signal whose values come from a continuously ranged values. That being said, as Wikipedia is for the lay person, and the lay person (in fact, the lay industry expert) will probably look for "analog filter" when "continuous-time filter" is actually meant. So, just as it's now acceptable to pronounce "often" with a hard "t" in the middle of it because lots of people do it, it's probably acceptable to have an "analog filter" title for this subject matter just because that's what lots of people will look for. However, if the title stays as it is (PAFD), it should probably not be bolded (certainly not when it's paragraphs away from the lead). —TedPavlic (talk/contrib/@) 12:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

don't say passive
i think when people say 'analog filter' now they very likely mean an active one with lots of op-amps and thrifty on the 'passive' parts (capacitors and inductors) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.193.24.148 (talk) 00:52, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Article is excellent
This article is a cut above the usual Wikipedia article. It concentrates on historical development, which distinguishes it from most of the electrical engineering articles. The writing is well-paced, erudite. 84.227.254.143 (talk) 12:22, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

"Analogue" in the context of electronics
This article and Analogue electronics is pretty much the only place it's spelled this way. Even within the article, the infobox, the books/articles in the references and bibliography and the category box spells it "analog". Are there actually electronics books/publications which spell it this way or is this a case of pushing a british variant in a context where it doesn't belong (ie, "computer programme")? 30103db (talk) 19:21, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Such a foolish comment could only be made by soneone who has not done a search of the literature beforehand. SpinningSpark 14:00, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 * So snarky... Searching through IEEE publications, JSTOR, arXiv, google scholar, google ngram, or even simply looking at the number of google search results shows not only that "analog" is clearly the preferred spelling (even within the sources on this article), but that sources which do spell it "analogue" tend to be older (over 30 years ago) and predominantly british. I'm not going to bother changing anything since this appears to be a charged topic, but if this really is a case of WP:ENGVAR, the MOS:COMMONALITY and MOS:ARTCON (ie, the title of the infobox at the top of the page is currently "Linear analog electronic filters") guidelines should apply. 30103db (talk) 14:29, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

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Photo request
Someone should get a photo of the building - unless they demolished it. Secretlondon 04:12, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Links needed
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Keith Haring
Someone's got to write something about Keith Haring painting the walls.--84.61.204.186 (talk) 00:09, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

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Benjamin Eli Smith

Benjamin Eli Smith, L.H.D. (February 7, 1857 – March 18, 1913) was an American editor and the son of Eli Smith. Born in Beirut, Ottoman Empire (now Beirut, Lebanon), he graduated from Amherst College (A.B., 1877; A.M., 1881), earning the degree of L.H.D. in 1902. He was managing editor of the first edition of the Century Dictionary, and editor-in-chief of the revised edition after the death of editor William Dwight Whitney in 1894. As the editor, he was also responsible for the Century Cyclopedia of Names (1894), the Century Atlas (1897), the two-volume Century Dictionary Supplement (1909), and the revised and enlarged Century Dictionary, Cyclopedia, and Atlas (twelve volumes, 1911). He translated Schwegler's History of Philosophy and Cicero's De Amicitia, as well as edited selections from other works.

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Bright Angel Trail

The Bright Angel Trail is a hiking trail located in Grand Canyon National Park in the U.S. state of Arizona.

Description

The trail originates at Grand Canyon Village on the south rim of the Grand Canyon, descending 4380 feet to the Colorado River. It has an average grade of 10% along its entire length. At trail's end, the River Trail continues another 1.9 miles to the Bright Angel Campground and Phantom Ranch. These two trails combined are the most common method used to access Phantom Ranch by hikers and mules.

Two trails cross or join the Bright Angel Trail, the first being an intersection with the Tonto Trail at, leading toward the Monument Use Area to the west, and to the South Kaibab Trail 4.7 mi to the east. The second is the River Trail, which officially begins when the Bright Angel Trail reaches the Colorado River at the River Resthouse (although some consider that the Bright Angel Trail officially ends after crossing the Colorado River at the Silver Bridge).

Condition
Grand Canyon National Park categorizes the Bright Angel Trail as a corridor trail. With this designation it receives regular maintenance and patrols by park rangers.

Water availability
Water is available from the trans-canyon pipeline at the Mile-and-a-half Resthouse, the Three Mile Resthouse, and Havasupai Gardens. During cooler months (usually October–April) the two higher elevation resthouses are shut off from the water supply to prevent the pipeline from freezing.

Below Havasupai Gardens, both Garden Creek and Pipe Creek flow year-round (perennial). Water is also available at the River Resthouse from the Colorado River. All water from natural sources must be filtered, treated, or boiled prior to consuming.

Camping
Hikers can camp at Havasupai Gardens Campground or at the Bright Angel Campground. At either site, they can stay overnight with a permit issued by the Grand Canyon National Park Backcountry Information Center. Overnight use of the campgrounds is regulated by the National Park Service, and they call for a maximum number of groups (7 to 11 people) and parties (1 to 6 people), as well as a maximum total number of persons.

Use permits are available on a first-come, first-served basis from the park's Backcountry Information Center. Requests are taken beginning on the 1st day of the month, up to four months before the requested first night of camping.

Hazards
Hazards that hikers can encounter along the Bright Angel Trail include dehydration, hyperhydration, sudden rainstorms, flash flooding, loose footing, bootpacked ice, rockfall, encounters with wildlife, and extreme heat. At the Colorado River, additional hazards include hypothermia (due to the river's consistently cold temperatures), trauma (due to collisions with boulders in rapids), and drowning. Also, the trail is used by the mules transporting people and gear to and from the bottom of the canyon. Although these mules are highly trained, the trail is narrow in some places, and care must be given to give mules the right of way. The trail also has many switchbacks, and a bad fall can result in serious injuries. Squirrel bites at Plateau Point are the leading cause of animal injuries to park visitors.

Havasupai
The upper part of the trail was originally built by the Havasupai people for access to the perennial water source of present-day Garden Creek. The Havasupai settled seasonally in this area, previously known as Indian Garden (or Indian Gardens). In 1903, President Theodore Roosevelt ordered them to leave the area, to make way for a park. However, it was not until 1928 that the last Havasupai left, forced out by the National Park Service.

In November 2022 the U.S. Board on Geographic Names approved a name change to Havasupai Gardens requested by the National Park Service on behalf of the Havasupai tribe, who regarded the old name as offensive and a painful reminder of past injustices. A public ceremony for the name change took place on May 5, 2023 on the South Rim of the Grand Canyon, with members of the Havasupai Tribe and Grand Canyon National Park leaders.

Ralph Cameron

Ralph H. Cameron, who would later become a United States senator (R-AZ 1921–27), settled on the canyon rim in 1890 and began improving the old Havasupai trail. It was at this time that the trail was extended all the way to the Colorado River. Once official control of the trail fell to Cameron, he named it the Bright Angel Trail, commonly referred to in its early years as Cameron's Trail, and began charging a $1 toll to access it, plus additional fees for drinking water and the use of outhouses at Havasupai Gardens.

Kolb brothers
Ellsworth Kolb arrived at the Grand Canyon to work at the Bright Angel Hotel in 1901. He was employed as a bellboy. The next year, Ellsworth invited his brother Emery to come to the canyon as the possibility of mine work opened up. However, John Hance's asbestos mine closed before he arrived, leaving Emery unemployed.

Shortly after this, Emery discovered a photography business for sale in Williams, Arizona. He purchased the business for US$425 1902 and moved the operation back to the Grand Canyon. He and Ellsworth began taking photographs of visitors who took the mule rides down Cameron's trail, charging a fee for the pictures. The Cameron family leased a small piece of land nearby to Emery, where the two brothers set up a photography studio in a tent to develop and sell their photos.

The business was profitable and after a few years the Kolb brothers built their permanent studio building on the rim of the canyon. Rock was blasted away to provide the foundation for the building, which is perched slightly below rim level.

Ellsworth left the venture in 1924, but Emery continued operating the studio until his death in 1976. The present-day Kolb Studio is operated by the Grand Canyon Association as a gift shop, art studio, and history center.

Competition with Cameron
To compete with Cameron, the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway improved an existing horsethief trail in Hermit Canyon (the Hermit Trail) in 1911. In 1924, the newly created National Park Service began construction of the South Kaibab Trail near Yaki Point as an additional bypass for Cameron's tolls.

National Park Service Control
After a long series of legal battles, the trail was turned over to the National Park Service in 1928.

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Public Ivy

"Public Ivy" is an informal term that refers to public colleges and universities in the United States that are perceived to provide a collegiate experience on the level of Ivy League universities. There is no trademark for the term, and the list of schools associated with the classification has changed over time.

The term was first coined in 1985 by Yale University admissions officer Richard Moll, who published Public Ivies: A Guide to America's Best Public Undergraduate Colleges and Universities. That initial list included eight universities and nine runners-up. In 2001, college guide authors Howard Greene and Matthew Greene, released their own book, The Public Ivies: The Great State Colleges and Universities, which included 30 schools.

Debates about Public Ivies have centered on whether state budgetary cuts are undermining their future; whether raising tuition at Public Ivies has "gentrified" the schools; whether states should be subsidizing higher education in the first place; whether graduates of Public Ivies are able to pay back student loans as quickly as their Ivy League counterparts; and whether out-of-state tuition is too high.

History
The term first appeared in the Public Ivies: A Guide to America's Best Public Undergraduate Colleges and Universities, published in 1985. The author, Richard Moll, graduated with a master's degree from Yale University in 1959, and served as an admissions officer as well as a director of admissions at several universities in the United States. He traveled the nation examining higher education institutions, and selected eight that were comparable to the Ivy League.

Moll's original ranking methodology included factors such as academic rigor, quality of faculty, and cost of tuition, as well as assessments of campus facilities, available resources, age, and major cultural traditions celebrated at each institution.

Original list published in 1985

 * College of William & Mary (Williamsburg, Virginia)
 * Miami University (Oxford, Ohio)
 * University of California (applies to the campuses as of 1985: Berkeley, Los Angeles, San Diego, Irvine, Davis, Santa Barbara, Santa Cruz, and Riverside)
 * University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
 * University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
 * University of Texas at Austin
 * University of Vermont (Burlington)
 * University of Virginia (Charlottesville)

Runners-up
As part of the initial 1985 publication, Moll also selected nine "worthy runner-up" universities:
 * University of Colorado Boulder
 * Georgia Institute of Technology (Atlanta)
 * University of Illinois Urbana–Champaign
 * New College of Florida (formerly New College of the University of South Florida, it became an independent part of Florida's State University System in 2001)
 * Pennsylvania State University (University Park)
 * University of Pittsburgh
 * State University of New York at Binghamton (also known as Binghamton University)
 * University of Washington (Seattle)
 * University of Wisconsin–Madison

Greenes' Guides list (2001)
The list of "public Ivy" institutions has gone through several revisions over the years, much like other university rankings and conferences. A notable update was published in 2001, when Howard and Matthew Greene included the following 30 colleges and universities in The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities.

Northeastern

 * Pennsylvania State University (University Park)
 * Rutgers University (New Brunswick, New Jersey)
 * State University of New York at Binghamton
 * University of Connecticut (Storrs)

Mid-Atlantic

 * College of William & Mary (Williamsburg, Virginia)
 * University of Delaware (Newark)
 * University of Maryland, College Park
 * University of Virginia (Charlottesville)

Western

 * University of Arizona (Tucson)
 * University of California, Berkeley
 * University of California, Davis
 * University of California, Irvine
 * University of California, Los Angeles
 * University of California, San Diego
 * University of California, Santa Barbara
 * University of Colorado Boulder
 * University of Washington (Seattle)

Great Lakes & Midwest

 * Indiana University Bloomington
 * Miami University (Oxford, Ohio)
 * Michigan State University (East Lansing)
 * Ohio State University (Columbus)
 * University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
 * University of Iowa (Iowa City)
 * University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
 * University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
 * University of Wisconsin–Madison

Southern

 * University of Florida (Gainesville)
 * University of Georgia (Athens)
 * University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
 * University of Texas at Austin

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pickle fetish

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE. dbenbenn | talk 03:12, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Pickle fetish
Surely a BJAODN classic in the making. Suspect patent nonsense, but putting it here instead of speedying. -- Curps 20:15, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Nonsense JimmyShelter 20:50, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Abstain. Looks like original research to me, but I'm not an expert in sexuology. – Kpalion (talk) 21:14, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, looks like someone disrupting Wikipedia to prove a point about Votes for deletion/Fart fetishism. —Korath (Talk) 21:49, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, as per my comments on Votes for deletion/Fart fetishism. Megan1967 01:46, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. A staggering 296 Google hits (many containing accompanying text such as "You are blinded by the dolphin worshippers" and "Well, I have this peanut butter pickle fetish...JUST KIDDING lol") says this ain't so, Joe. BUT WAIT!! Could it be inherently notable? Nah, I don't think so. Denni ☯ 04:44, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC)
 * Delete although it brings a whole new meaning to the term "jerkin' the gherkin". Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd 01:24, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * Or "tickle the pickle." :^)  This is just nonsense.  Delete as complete nonsense.  BJAODN is just feeding the troll. - Lucky 6.9 02:15, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Vote Depends on outcome of Votes for deletion/Fart fetishism if fart is Kept, then we should Keep pickle, if fart is Deleted then we should delete pickle; they both belong in the same waste bin. So the outcome of the vote will decide if Wikipedia becomes that wastebin. Abrahams 13:05, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Both articles are rubbish ... the outcome of Votes for deletion/Fart fetishism should be clear in a couple of days and will show us what wikipedia is ... I agree with Abrahams about the wastebin remark. It is up to the editors to change that. Omar Filini 14:33, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Ranking

A ranking is a relationship between a set of items, often recorded in a list, such that, for any two items, the first is either "ranked higher than", "ranked lower than", or "ranked equal to" the second. In mathematics, this is known as a weak order or total preorder of objects. It is not necessarily a total order of objects because two different objects can have the same ranking. The rankings themselves are totally ordered. For example, materials are totally preordered by hardness, while degrees of hardness are totally ordered. If two items are the same in rank it is considered a tie.

By reducing detailed measures to a sequence of ordinal numbers, rankings make it possible to evaluate complex information according to certain criteria. Thus, for example, an Internet search engine may rank the pages it finds according to an estimation of their relevance, making it possible for the user quickly to select the pages they are likely to want to see.

Analysis of data obtained by ranking commonly requires non-parametric statistics.

Strategies for handling ties
It is not always possible to assign rankings uniquely. For example, in a race or competition two (or more) entrants might tie for a place in the ranking. When computing an ordinal measurement, two (or more) of the quantities being ranked might measure equal. In these cases, one of the strategies below for assigning the rankings may be adopted.

A common shorthand way to distinguish these ranking strategies is by the ranking numbers that would be produced for four items, with the first item ranked ahead of the second and third (which compare equal) which are both ranked ahead of the fourth. These names are also shown below.

Standard competition ranking ("1224" ranking)
In competition ranking, items that compare equal receive the same ranking number, and then a gap is left in the ranking numbers. The number of ranking numbers that are left out in this gap is one less than the number of items that compared equal. Equivalently, each item's ranking number is 1 plus the number of items ranked above it. This ranking strategy is frequently adopted for competitions, as it means that if two (or more) competitors tie for a position in the ranking, the position of all those ranked below them is unaffected (i.e., a competitor only comes second if exactly one person scores better than them, third if exactly two people score better than them, fourth if exactly three people score better than them, etc.).

Thus if A ranks ahead of B and C (which compare equal) which are both ranked ahead of D, then A gets ranking number 1 ("first"), B gets ranking number 2 ("joint second"), C also gets ranking number 2 ("joint second") and D gets ranking number 4 ("fourth").

This method is called "Low" by IBM SPSS and "min" by the R programming language in their methods to handle ties.

Modified competition ranking ("1334" ranking)
Sometimes, competition ranking is done by leaving the gaps in the ranking numbers before the sets of equal-ranking items (rather than after them as in standard competition ranking). The number of ranking numbers that are left out in this gap remains one less than the number of items that compared equal. Equivalently, each item's ranking number is equal to the number of items ranked equal to it or above it. This ranking ensures that a competitor only comes second if they score higher than all but one of their opponents, third if they score higher than all but two of their opponents, etc.

Thus if A ranks ahead of B and C (which compare equal) which are both ranked ahead of D, then A gets ranking number 1 ("first"), B gets ranking number 3 ("joint third"), C also gets ranking number 3 ("joint third") and D gets ranking number 4 ("fourth"). In this case, nobody would get ranking number 2 ("second") and that would be left as a gap.

This method is called "High" by IBM SPSS and "max" by the R programming language in their methods to handle ties.

Dense ranking ("1223" ranking)
In dense ranking, items that compare equally receive the same ranking number, and the next items receive the immediately following ranking number. Equivalently, each item's ranking number is 1 plus the number of items ranked above it that are distinct with respect to the ranking order.

Thus if A ranks ahead of B and C (which compare equal) which are both ranked ahead of D, then A gets ranking number 1 ("first"), B gets ranking number 2 ("joint second"), C also gets ranking number 2 ("joint second") and D gets ranking number 3 ("Third").

This method is called "Sequential" by IBM SPSS and "dense" by the R programming language in their methods to handle ties.

Ordinal ranking ("1234" ranking)
In ordinal ranking, all items receive distinct ordinal numbers, including items that compare equal. The assignment of distinct ordinal numbers to items that compare equal can be done at random, or arbitrarily, but it is generally preferable to use a system that is arbitrary but consistent, as this gives stable results if the ranking is done multiple times. An example of an arbitrary but consistent system would be to incorporate other attributes into the ranking order (such as alphabetical ordering of the competitor's name) to ensure that no two items exactly match.

With this strategy, if A ranks ahead of B and C (which compare equal) which are both ranked ahead of D, then A gets ranking number 1 ("first") and D gets ranking number 4 ("fourth"), and either B gets ranking number 2 ("second") and C gets ranking number 3 ("third") or C gets ranking number 2 ("second") and B gets ranking number 3 ("third").

In computer data processing, ordinal ranking is also referred to as "row numbering".

This method corresponds to the "first", "last", and "random" methods in the R programming language to handle ties.

Fractional ranking ("1 2.5 2.5 4" ranking)
Items that compare equal receive the same ranking number, which is the mean of what they would have under ordinal rankings; equivalently, the ranking number of 1 plus the number of items ranked above it plus half the number of items equal to it. This strategy has the property that the sum of the ranking numbers is the same as under ordinal ranking. For this reason, it is used in computing Borda counts and in statistical tests (see below).

Thus if A ranks ahead of B and C (which compare equal) which are both ranked ahead of D, then A gets ranking number 1 ("first"), B and C each get ranking number 2.5 (average of "joint second/third") and D gets ranking number 4 ("fourth").

Here is an example: Suppose you have the data set 1.0, 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, 5.0, 5.0.

The ordinal ranks are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.

For v = 1.0, the fractional rank is the average of the ordinal ranks: (1 + 2) / 2 = 1.5. In a similar manner, for v = 5.0, the fractional rank is (7 + 8 + 9) / 3 = 8.0.

Thus the fractional ranks are: 1.5, 1.5, 3.0, 4.5, 4.5, 6.0, 8.0, 8.0, 8.0

This method is called "Mean" by IBM SPSS and "average" by the R programming language in their methods to handle ties.

Education
League tables are used to compare the academic achievements of different institutions. College and university rankings order institutions in higher education by combinations of factors. In addition to entire institutions, specific programs, departments, and schools are ranked. These rankings usually are conducted by magazines, newspapers, governments and academics. For example, league tables of British universities are published annually by The Independent, The Sunday Times, and The Times. The primary aim of these rankings is to inform potential applicants about British universities based on a range of criteria. Similarly, in countries like India, league tables are being developed and a popular magazine, Education World, published them based on data from TheLearningPoint.net.

It is complained that the ranking of England's schools to rigid guidelines that fail to take into account wider social conditions actually makes failing schools even worse. This is because the most involved parents will then avoid such schools, leaving only the children of non-ambitious parents to attend.

Business
In business, league tables list the leaders in the business activity within a specific industry, ranking companies based on different criteria including revenue, earnings, and other relevant key performance indicators (such as market share and meeting customer expectations) enabling people to quickly analyze significant data.

Applications
The rank methodology based on some specific indices is one of the most common systems used by policy makers and international organizations in order to assess the socio-economic context of the countries. Some notable examples include the Human Development Index (United Nations), Doing Business Index (World Bank), Corruption Perceptions Index (Transparency International), and Index of Economic Freedom (the Heritage Foundation). For instance, the Doing Business Indicator of the World Bank measures business regulations and their enforcement in 190 countries. Countries are ranked according to ten indicators that are synthesized to produce the final rank. Each indicator is composed of sub-indicators; for instance, the Registering Property Indicator is composed of four sub-indicators measuring time, procedures, costs, and quality of the land registration system. These kinds of ranks are based on subjective criteria for assigning the score. Sometimes, the adopted parameters may produce discrepancies with the empirical observations, therefore potential biases and paradox may emerge from the application of these criteria.

Other examples

 * In politics, rankings may focus on the comparison of economic, social, environmental and governance performance of countries. Politicians themselves have also been ranked, based on the extent of their activities.
 * In relation to credit standing, the ranking of a security refers to where that particular security would stand in a wind up of the issuing company, i.e., its seniority in the company's capital structure. For instance, capital notes are subordinated securities; they would rank behind senior debt in a wind up. In other words, the holders of senior debt would be paid out before subordinated debt holders received any funds.
 * Search engines rank web pages by their expected relevance to a user's query using a combination of query-dependent and query-independent methods. Query-independent methods attempt to measure the estimated importance of a page, independent of any consideration of how well it matches the specific query. Query-independent ranking is usually based on link analysis; examples include the HITS algorithm, PageRank and TrustRank. Query-dependent methods attempt to measure the degree to which a page matches a specific query, independent of the importance of the page. Query-dependent ranking is usually based on heuristics that consider the number and locations of matches of the various query words on the page itself, in the URL or in any anchor text referring to the page.
 * In webometrics, it is possible to rank institutions according to their presence in the web (number of webpages) and the impact of these contents, such as the Webometrics Ranking of World Universities.
 * In video gaming, players may be given a ranking. To "rank up" is to achieve a higher ranking relative to other players, especially with strategies that do not depend on the player's skill.
 * The TrueSkill ranking system is a skill based ranking system for Xbox Live developed at Microsoft Research.
 * A bibliogram ranks common noun phrases in a piece of text.
 * In language, the status of an item (usually through what is known as "downranking" or "rank-shifting") in relation to the uppermost rank in a clause; for example, in the sentence "I want to eat the cake you made today", "eat" is on the uppermost rank, but "made" is downranked as part of the nominal group "the cake you made today"; this nominal group behaves as though it were a single noun (i.e., I want to eat it), and thus the verb within it ("made") is ranked differently from "eat".
 * Academic journals are sometimes ranked according to impact factor; the number of later articles that cite articles in a given journal.

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Khala
''Note: This VfD about Khala - fictional philosophy/religion from StarCraft- was put up on Jan. 25 2005 by 66.102.65.183. However, the VfD submission was malformed, and the author apparently didn't understand how the VfD system works. I personally believe this VfD is not justified, but I did not feel entitled to single-handedly remove it so I am putting it through the normal process. The following are 66.102.65.183's words: '' Phils 17:48, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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 * Those were the words of 142.150.49.34. 66.102.65.183 put up the VfD tag, but not the initial version of this VfD discussion page. 66.102.74.184 14:17, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. Phils 17:48, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, crufty but not misleading. Wyss 18:12, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, Inter 19:05, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, I put up the VfD. I wasn't sure what was the best tag was for the page at the time; it seemed to be rather esoteric and not worthy of being expanded, and at the time the page was little more than a definition.  The page has now been expanded sufficiently to be worth keeping, however.  Though it was malformed and the surrounding process not understood, the result of the VfD submission seems to have turned out well... 66.102.74.21 02:30, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, cleanup and expand. Megan1967 05:43, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Reluctant Keep. Oh the curse of fancruft! Trilobite (Talk) 09:58, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:John Tenniel

Alice's Blue Dress
I have deleted these two sentences as they are inaccurate, "In Tenniel's early colored works of Alice, her dress was blue, her white pinafore outlined in red, and she was blonde. This look has, perhaps, become the classic and most widely recognized Alice in Wonderland dress in later works."

The illustration cited in those sentences was drawn by Tenniel, but not coloured by him. http://www.frieze.com/issue/article/adrian_piper/ Tenniel provided colour illustrations for The Nusery "Alice" in 1890 and in that book Tenniel coloured Alice's dress yellow with a white pinafore with blue trim. http://www.aliang.net/literature/the_nursery_alice/tna_ch11.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.193.214.128 (talk) 12:12, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Ridiculous and inappropriate currency conversion
"By 1885 he was earning a $7,000 annual salary for his weekly Punch cartoon[3]—the equivalent of more than $165,000 today."

John Tenniel, being British, living in England and working for the referenced British periodical, Punch, never earned a salary of US (presumably) dollars. He would have been paid in the currency of the time, Sterling. The payment would have been accounted in pounds or guineas.

By what quirk of editorial licence has this been converted into US (presumably) dollars? To have made the conversion is not only inappropriate, but exhibits a degree of ignorance quite out of place in an encyclopaedia.

Consider, for example, even if the arbitrary conversion to US (presumably) dollars were to be made it would be necessary to refer to the particular exchange rate used which, if contemporary relevance were to be maintained, would need to be regularly reviewed and updated. It is about as nonsensical as quoting Mark Zuckerberg's salary in pounds sterling.

Please can the UK sterling figure be used? Furthermore, can some editorial guidance be put in place to avoid such basic corruption of the value of similarly misguided articles.

One would think that the editors of Wikipedia are completely ignorant of the majority of the world outside one of its more recent countries: the United States of America. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.3.98 (talk) 15:35, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorted the content
I have combined two separate sections about his career as the Punch cartoonist and moved other paragraphs into the most directly relevant sections. I hope this is accepted as an improvement. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:43, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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Germanic Nazarenes
Where's the link to an article on this? 72.83.36.199 (talk) 22:20, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * There was one in the 1st sentence of "Style"; I've added another where the term is first mentioned. Ewulp (talk) 00:43, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

sometimes hard to follow
This is not very well edited. It's difficult to follow in places, because it reads as if large chunks of it have simply been taken verbatim from another source, but in doing so, have been stripped of the context necessary to understand the remarks. For example, we are told – "Tenniel was blessed with a photographic memory, undermining his early training and seriously restricting his artistic ambitions." Previous to this, we have been told that he seems to have been largely self-taught. And it's not at all clear how having a photographic memory undermines or restricts an artist, that is, this seems to be an opinion, from the source, rather than something that stands by itself as a fact. Perhaps in Engan's book this makes sense, but in this abbreviated form, it doesn't. Theonemacduff (talk) 19:04, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

No Mention of Particular Influential works
The English page does not include any mention of the vast works depicting Irishmen as Ape-like creatures, nor any mention of racist cartoons like 'Justice'. He was deeply racist by modern standards and an effective propagandist, that unpopular part of his history is missing on the en page (I noticed something was up because I am visiting Germany, the de.wikipedia features a picture of 'Justice'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.118.86.63 (talk) 08:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2020
the date of death needs a correction 219.91.183.107 (talk) 12:53, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ El Hef  ( Meep? ) 14:31, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Private life?
Did he have one? Who was in it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.138.91.209 (talk) 07:29, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

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Jonathan wolfson
Vanity, but seems to be posted by someone other than the subject. -- Curps 20:17, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Vanity JimmyShelter 20:51, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, Vanity. Inter 21:08, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. Vanity. --Spinboy 23:10, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Operation Pedestal, SS Ohio entering the Grand Harbour of Malta lashed between two destroyers.

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Talk:Corylus avellana

Duplication with Hazel
There is considerable overlap and duplication with Hazel. There is unique content here about the Hazel nut. I am therefore proposing that the content about the plant, its description and taxonomy be moved to Hazel and the text about the nut be moved back to Hazelnut. This page would then become a disambiguation page. Any views ? (This text is also posted on the Hazel page) Velela 20:20, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Opposite problem. This page is specifically about C. avellana but more of its content should be duplicated on the generic Hazel page since this is the most commercially important and (afaik?) most common species. People shouldn't have to guess and click over to here to see some of the more important information (e.g. about Turkey's centrality to hazelnut production). — Llywelyn II   22:37, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Hazelnut Allergy
Shouldn't there be something about Hazelnut Allergies? It's a lot more common than most people think and yet there continues to be no mention that it even exists.

Tractors or Forklifts?
In the harvest section it uses Forklift and Tractor interchangeably. Are they interchangeable in real life? If they are all references should be changed to tractor or forklift, or just not specified. I don't know so I'm not altering this

Health section looks like industry advertising
There is nothing specially healthful per se about oleic acids. The reference to 'diabetic fibers' seems meaningless. The comment of 'a unique and ideal food' is not supported.Ykral (talk) 02:04, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Move
I undid the move for the following reasons Guettarda (talk) 12:46, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It was moved without discussion, despite the fact that the naming convention favoured the current (and previous) name
 * It was moved to a weird compound name that isn't actually used.

Copyright problem removed
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Pontus
This page says Turkey is the largest hazelnut producer in the world by a wide margin, specifically its Giresun Province, but its article calls it the country's 2nd-largest producer without clarifying who #1 is. In any case, it's in Pontus. We should mention the area and the weirdness that—despite apparently being at the very fringes of this plant's distribution—it's been so central to its production that a large part of the world's words for hazel and hazelnut ultimately derive from the ancient Greek for Pontic nut. Even moreso that they were apparently so common that they make up Iberian languages' words for meatballs and a large part of Africa's words for long guns, derived from Arabic use of 'hazelnut' for crossbow and sling pellets and early bullets. — Llywelyn II   22:35, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

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Classy Wikipedia quotes
Nothing but a 12-year old boy here typing when his parents should be spanking...ignore.

I have discovered a truly remarkable proof that Jews control Wikipedia that the margin of this talk page is too small to contain.

This is a collection of various Wikipedia-related quotes I have observed, with citations where possible. Some quotes are trimmed for clarity.

Hubris
Yes, I'll be keeping an eye on my clock for when the allotted time rolls around. I have a 5,000 page watchlist to tend to; the project can't afford to have me blocked for so long. Everyking 05:44, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I'm an extremely busy person on Wikipedia, with lots of projects open. I cannot afford to be blocked for even one minute, I am sorry if I broke policy, but I feel not being blocked is more beneficial to Wikipedia. I do not have time to appeal to other Wikipedians. Earl Andrew - talk 17:42, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Well, "Old Souls/Spirits" are those that have been around eons. One can usually tell an "Old Soul/Spirit" as opposed to a "Young Soul/Spirit". The latter will make mistakes the former would not likely make. In other words "Old Souls/Spirits" have learned life lessons that the "Young Souls/Spirits" have not. Through metaphysical sessions I've learned that I've had 20,487 lifetimes and 4,802 have on Mother Earth. So I'm an extremely "Old Soul/Spirit". Bumpusmills1 04:07, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

 Ed_Poor, meh. I think you'll be back, if only because you'll outlast all the other people.  lol * Maru. You're probably right.  It's only been a few weeks. My longest was 2 months.  The place really fell apart in my absence, if I may be so          immodest.

Wikipedia will always be biased towards Americans simply becuase of the fact that a relatively minuscule number of people in the third world have the internet. --

Paranoia and insanity
BTW, I just *love* how Wikipedia has updated its anti-government legal policy ever since my questioning the Constitutionality of their "terms of use" the first go-around. Very saavy! Surely a court would not be able to convict anyone of treason based on the policy's current wording. Luckily for the oppressed and the true American patriots--those who believe in the totality of our nation's Constitutional rights for all--among this "community", I am in possession of dated copies of the Wikipedia's former, far more stringently anti-American, traitorous policy. It is funny that those who are the true American traitors--those who not only disregard our nation's Constitution, but also encourage others to do so and shun and dehumanize those who would go against the grain in upholding it--are the ones dubbing *others*, us true patriots, guilty of "treason". In fact, making the entire matter all the more ironic, accusing one of treason is in violation of your beloved "terms of service" for several different reasons. If we can expect one thing from Wikipedia, we all know by now it's not accurate and factual information; it's agenda and hypocrisy masquerading as knowledge! Those who control this project are guilty of crime on so many different levels--but perverting information and knowledge in order to push an agenda and fucking with the minds of young children all over the world, who come here in search of that knowledge, is truly the grossest of their sins! All who stand against bias and racism must fight these despots with all our energy! If we do not win, and weed out these biased and elitist facists with an agenda, such as Guanaco, Snowspinner, Neutrality, Mike H, and others, holding them accountable for their crimes against this project's integrity and against the world's knowledge, then the future of our race will be doomed as a result of all the lies and fraud that are perpetuated by this "project"! Think about it, and understand what must be done! --

It is hereby ORDERED that any and all pages at www.Wikipedia.org that contain any reference to Sollog, Sollog Immanuel Adonai-Adoni, John Ennis, John Patrick Ennis, TOH and members of TOH be immediately removed. It is further ORDERED that a fine of Ten Million Dollars be levied upon both the Wikimedia Foundation and Jim Wales personally for distributing knowingly this material after members of TOH had complained of being offended -- (archive.org link: )

It is more apparent than ever to me that those that disagree with some of the context of this article are to be denied the opportunity of editing and that the administrator(s) pretend to open this up to a forum of discussion whereby a concensus will be reached that will result in those that are not to the extreme left and wish this article to actually be NPOV will find appeasement. Rubbish. The page is protected in an effort to maintain the bad reporting and to extend as encyclopedic left wing bias and propaganda. I doubt anything disussed here will result in any major improvements to this rag of an article because the administrator(s) are hopelessly POV, anti-Bush and determined to slander his character. They impose martial law because they are unwilling to admit that their position is weak. We can argue about the situation forever, but there is no doubt in my mind that unless you agree with the major contributors of this rag you will never get appeasement. Let's not pretend to think that we can hash things out here. Open to discussion...it's like farting in the wind. MONGO 20:52, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

"Moron...Month, you say? I did not notice. My time-sense is 'slightly' distorted after my psychedelic journey through EVERNOW - I lie in bed, still, passing within Waters of Life, for 6 days and 6 nights, in total darkness, experiencing visions and thinking, thinking, thinking. It is hard to express in words. I was thinking how to save the Universe, I care about such things...Crazy things, but not nonsense. Thus 'Applied Memetics' and other strange artifacts. I was experiencing the everlastng now. I was and am able to think backwards in time, for a while I even felt that the Universe reversed the direction of flow of time. I have bisarre ideas, but I also have the ability to hold belief in many, even mutually exclusive things at the same time. They cancel themselves out. So I am not exacly confused. See the site mentioned below, look at the artcle in the Drugs division, 'Straszne Skutki Awarii Telewizora' - I bursted a pathetic attempt at a poem in English there, which was supposed to be a joke, but, curiouser and curiouser - it seems to have coherent narration and tells a bit about my experience (not my concious intention!). A Daimonion, I guess, wrote it. Agquarx 00:02, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)"

I request arbitration against the entire arbitration committee, together with Jimbo Wales, and the Wikimedia foundation. The latter for failing to stop the former, and indeed being complicit with it. CheeseDreams 13:47, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Having massive bais towards certain editors - the leaders of the cabal
 * Failing to apply Wikipedia policies (including, , , ) to favoured editors, despite their massive violations of them (e.g. , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ), treating them as if they were above the law (e.g. , , , , , , )
 * Extreme lack of even handedness (e.g. vs.,  vs. [about:nothing],  vs. m  vs. )
 * Absolutely no attempts to look at evidence for the defence (e.g. )
 * Engineering a state of massive systemic bias towards the Christian Pro-American Right (and the Jewish/Zionist right where not applicable) (e.g. look at the list of banned/penalised users and their editing, vs. the non-banned ones, as well as the cross-section constituting the list of admins).
 * Failing to recuse themselves when they have a clear bias / conflict of interest in a case (e.g., , , , )

Chip Berlet is a 5 cent thug in a long-range Aristotelian network, an evil, Venetian-based clique which has found its most demonic individuals in men such as Bertrand Russell, the advocate of nuclear genocide; Adolf Hitler, a perverted figure of anti-christ calibre who was installed into power by British bankers; and the Beatles, generals of a literal "British Invasion," doped-up zombie devils whose atrocious personal lives matched the Satanic musical presentation of their pop songs. --

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adolf_Hitler&diff=next&oldid=31506325,[] Massage down-grade in POV, cumulative massage,'''r after: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adolf_Hitler&diff=prev&oldid=31501620 ,[]. Shows typical provocative creeping Opus moderandi of POV massage. V.sad 4 WP .''NO MORE EVIDENCE IS REQUIRED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT USER FK CANNOT CONTRIBUTE TO WIKIPEDIA, AND THAT WIKIPEDIA IS CORRUPTED BY CONCERTED INTELLECTUAL /REVISIONIST / GERMAN / CLERICAL DISHONESTY. FK SHALL MAKE NO MORE ATTEMPT TO EDIT TO ANY ARTICLES UNTIL THIS IS SORTED BY WIKIPEDIA. FK RESERVES THE RIGHTS TO HIS OWN CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THEY BE PUBLISHABLE FREELY BY FK HOWSOEVER HE CHOOSES. FK RESERVES HIS RIGHT TO SELF DEFENCE, AND TO EDIT TALK PAGES AND CALL FOR FURTHER ABITRATION. FK'S MESSAGE TO ARBITRATION ENDS WITH THIS TRUTH FROM[]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hitler%27s_Pope/Archive2, Adressed to Robert Mac-Le-Non McClenon 'I remind you that good action must not only conform to moral law, but be done for the sake of moral law. That good will is good not by what it performs but simply by virtue of the volition, and that the function of reason is to produce a will good in itself , for reason recognises the establishment of a good will as its highest practical destination. --

These websites are controlled and sponsored by Jimmy (JIMBO) Wales of the Wikimedia Foundation and Bomis.com, a porno distrbution business controlled by Jimbo Wales. Both websites are a front for a bogus 501-3(c) Charity (Wikimedia Foundation) which solicits moneys from the General Public to pay for its cost of operations and which is also used as a tax shield for Wales various business interests, including his porno distribution businesses. Wikipedia is an on line chat room frequented by sexual predators, and internet libelers and is used as a tool of libel by Wales and the Internet Community at large. The site is also used by various social and political interests which support social causes by seeding content and pornographic imagery into the site in support of controverisial topics. The site has been used by pedophiles to promote child molestation, and the gay rights movement in support of gay marriage and other politicaly charged issues. The site has been labeled a gay chat room by numerous site visitors and an on-line forum for child molesters and pedophiles. Given Wales involvement in the porno business, these types of activities are not surprising. Several links on Wikipedia link to this site with statements that this website fails wikipedia's neutral point of view (NPOV) policies. Since this website is **NOT** Wikipedia, the comments on Wikipedia's websites are somewhat disturbing. Recent allegations have surfaced that Wales has been using his 501-3(c) status filings with the IRS to engage in Income Tax Evasion with regard to Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation. Allegations have also surfaced that Wales and Wikipedia/Bomis/Wikimedia Foundation are currently the subjects of an IRS investigation related to tax fraud and income tax evasion. --

Anti-Semitism
In the long term, there is absolutely one and only one solution to this specific instance of jewish bias, we must setup our own wikipedia. There is no other option - any other option is futile in totality. They make the rules at the end of the day and are not open to reason when it comes to issues involving jews and judaism. Also the elites on the existing wikipedia are an effective cabal jewish supremacists and lackeys of the jews, thus trying to appeal to open balance, sanity, fairness and neutrality will ultimately always fail in the long term regarding any issues which even remotely touch upon or involve jews and judaism. Jews are a neurotic bunch, myopic, like the child who is unable to understand how others might perceive things. They are unable to understand alternative perspectives when it comes to their sensitive subjects which can only be view, represented and spoken upon in a non-critical light. --(WhiteBamboo on )

The problem with limiting the "democracy" here to active Wikipedians is particularly egregious since by the very nature of an encyclopedia we are dealing with the classic problem of holding the accountants to account. Since Jews have historically been the most specialized ethnicity in account-keeping vocations stretching back at least to the Babylonian era, any attempt at such record keeping is going to have a distinct Jewish bias to it. To have a vote on whether to keep or discard the topic of Jewish ethnocentrism is therefore inherently imbalanced and to be neutral requires some countervailing points of view. You think this is "stacking the vote". I think Wikipedia is already stacked with Jewish bias and that therefore what I did is attempting -- perhaps futilely -- to provide some balance to an egregiously biased situation. This bias on Wikipedia is, of course, no worse than almost any other aspect of civilization where Jewish ethnocentricity biasing accounting is not kept in check with so-called "anti-semitism" but it is an obscenity neverheless. Jim Bowery 04:46, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Keep - I ask that the Jewish Ethnocentrist cabal, give this topic a few weeks to develop, right now this topic is in a very rough and early stage. When I say Jewish Ethnocentrist cabal, I don't mean this as a personal insult or attack against you guys. I just mean it as a factual, accurate and documented reflection of your actions, history, censorship and emotional bias regarding issues related to or regarding jews, judaism, israel and zionism. Please don't let your personal and sensitive feelings about my other contributions prevent such an interesting and relevant topic from existing and being developed. Thanks for your understanding and neutrality in these regards. Dnagod 05:31, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

On a tangent, I think the real problem is that I exposed the absolute fact that every section regarding or even remotely involving jews, judaism, israel, zionism and holocaust denial have a cabal of jewish ethnocentrists, jewish supremacists and (neurotic?) jews, even worse lackeys of jews, who refuse to allow these areas to be fair, balanced, npov, and include legit links and sources. Even worse is that these sections will rarely if ever have the truth regarding the extent of alternative points of view which largely exist and are not pro or neutral concerning jews. By exposing this as a fact regarding wikis jew bias and jew infestation, I have brought the wrath of the jews and their lackeys, thus not ever being able to make legit contributions to wikipedia without those legit contributions being purged, deleted or reverted. Not an insult, not a personal attack, just follow the cabal and you will see I am right. ... Wikipedia works for the most part, but your jewish bias from your jew cabal (which includes lackeys of the jews as well) and the inability for the great majority of people to see there is a serious jew problem here will definitely hurt the long term legitimacy and credibility of wikipedia regarding issues involving or even remotely involving Judaism - FACT! Dnagod 22:36, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

wikipedia has full blown Jewish AIDS and can not be cured. --(WhiteBamboo on )

this article is based off of jewish hatred for black people and futhure suppression of an expediently dying race in which jews are known fore runners. American (WHITE)culture has accepted these ideologies and theories of jews as fact and have lived by them since the first jews to come hear began the kkk. They never want to hear or talk about that. The term conspiracy is also coined by them as is "the new white negro" and depicting African-American women as whores. As a black woman I've never come across these rumors at least not from the black community but whites. A study is not being done on this because it's false entirely. Just another ploy to keep stereotypes of black people intact rendering them obsolete.

"Wikipedians (Jewish volunteers) will concentrate on a certain subject, and actively moderate any new replies. Once an individual edits an article, his ISP number is recorded, and he is assigned a sayanim that will monitor all his future writings. (The Sayanim is a Jewish person, that can be called on to assist another Jew in any cause.)"

Pedophilia
Apparently Wikipedia works like Orwell's "Animal Farm", all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others. As usual, anything written by a pedophile (even if entirely correct, well researched and entirely documented) is subject to scrutiny and censorship by the "normal" people. I resent the hell out of this! Your UNREASONING hatred is apparent when you delete (burn a book) a well written article that relies on solid research. This stinks of Hitlerism and medieval witch burning! Shame! Shame! Shame! --Jeffrey Gold (Founder and President of Sure Quality Internet Radio - YOUR Boylove PRIDE Station!)

lol what
There is no rule against trolling wikipedia. Wikipedia needs a few good trolls to challenge some of the crypto-fascist repressive bullshit that some of these administrators liberally imbibe. Popeye

Anyone dislike the suggested pink color for North America as much as I do? I'd suggest something like below, with a buff or antique white for North America, with the Africa color darkened a bit for more contrast with the new North America color. Kevin Myers 05:32, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

On 11/17/05, Ray Saintonge wrote: > The dynamics in an organization can easily change when it has paid > staff. I very much prefer an environment where everyone is working > for the love of what they believe rather than the love of money. I don't. What your describing is a social experiment, and the sort of one I find violently objectionable. See communism. Jack (Sam Spade)

Hi, Mr. Raul654. I hate to bother you at this time, but my name is Greg from the CrackTeam at CodeCentral. You may have noticed our edits recently (we share an IP with a school, and we regret any bad edits). These are not bad-faith edits or what we consider trolling or vandalism. They're alerts from us, the CrackTeam at CodeCentral, telling you that your site is editable. Most editable sites have been exploited by security flaws from attackers, as some websites became temporarily by the Sircam virus. We don't know if your servers run Windows or Linux or not. If so, they can be vulnerable to viruses (Windows more than most). Just wanted to let you know. Editable websites are a bad thing, and spyware, adware and viruses can happen to them (but not if you use a Macintosh usually). Thank you, The CrackTeam at CodeCentral

As this matter touches on Nuclear energy, the Arbcomm must realize that the Price-Anderson Act removes all jurisdiction on such matters to the Federal courts, accordingly, the Arbcomm has no authority to regulate, interfere, or hear disputes arising from such matters ... This venue is therefore deprived of its usual jurisdiction and required to remove the complaint forthwith. Benjamin Gatti 03:49, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

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Vernon Tigers

The Vernon Tigers were a Minor League Baseball team that represented Vernon, California in the Pacific Coast League (PCL) from 1909 to 1925. The team won back-to-back PCL pennants in 1919 and 1920. The Tigers, together with the Sacramento Solons, joined the PCL as a new team in 1909 when the league expanded from six teams to eight. The Tigers effectively were a second team in Los Angeles, rivals of the existing Los Angeles Angels.

History
Vernon, California, was and still is a small community in Los Angeles County. Vernon fielded a PCL team because it was one of only two cities in Los Angeles County where the sale and consumption of alcohol was legal. Vernon used its "wet" distinction to its advantage. The largest enterprise in the town at the time was Doyle's bar, advertised as the "longest bar in the world" with 37 bartenders. Doyle was also a sports promoter, building an arena where world championship boxing matches were held. Tigers owner Pete Maier built Maier Park next to Doyle's bar, which had its own entrance to the park.

In 1913 and 1914, the Tigers played in the oceanside community of Venice, and were known as the Venice Tigers during those seasons. Not coincidentally, Venice was the only other "wet" city in Los Angeles County. On Sundays and special holidays in which alcohol sales were not permitted, the Tigers played their home games at Washington Park, which was primarily the Angels' home field. The team did not draw well in Venice, and the Tigers moved back to Vernon in 1915. Player-manager Happy Hogan, who had managed the team since 1909 (such that the newspapers sometimes called the team "Hogan's Tigers") died during the 1915 season, of pneumonia.

Bob Meusel, later a New York Yankees teammate of Babe Ruth, played for Vernon in 1917 before serving in World War I the following year with the Navy. The Tigers finished the war-shortened 1918 season in first place; however, they were defeated by the Los Angeles Angels in a postseason series. This postseason series is often incorrectly identified as a "playoff." That postseason series, however, was unrelated to the PCL playoff system which was established some years later.

In early 1919, Maier sold a controlling interest in the Tigers to movie actor Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle, a superstar in the silent film era. When the team became known as the Hollywood Stars, Hollywood began taking a collective notice of the team as a result of Arbuckle's ownership. And, the season concluded with the Tigers defeating the rival Angels in the last series of the season, winning the pennant by $1 1/2$ games.

The 1919 season became infamous for the "Black Sox" scandal. As with the tainted World Series of that year, there were rumors that opposing PCL players had been bribed to "throw" games against the Tigers. League President William McCarthy expelled Tiger first baseman Babe Borton and several other players under suspicion of involvement.

The Tigers seemed unfazed by the scandal, as they finished first for the third year in a row, winning the 1920 pennant by $5 1/2$ games over the Seattle Indians. However, that was the beginning of end of the team. The Eighteenth Amendment had been ratified, criminalizing the production and sale of alcohol everywhere in the U.S., including Vernon. It took effect in 1920. The small population of Vernon became a liability, as fewer Angelenos were willing to travel the distance to watch a game in a "dry" town.

Moreover, principal owner Arbuckle found ownership of the team more work than he had bargained for, and sold his interest in the team later in 1920. As a result, the Hollywood crowd lost interest in the Tigers. As attendance waned, the caliber of play did also, and the team struggled in its final years. After the 1925 season, the team was sold to San Francisco interests and moved to that city to begin play in 1926 as the Mission Reds.

After 12 unprofitable seasons in San Francisco, the team moved back to Los Angeles for the 1938 season. They were renamed the Hollywood Stars, and established a strong rivalry with the Angels that lasted until the arrival of the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1958. As before in Los Angeles for a time, and as in San Francisco, the Stars found themselves being tenants of the more dominant team in the city. However, the Stars would eventually build their own park and achieve a measure of success that the Tigers and the Missions had been unable to achieve.

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Desert iguana

The desert iguana (Dipsosaurus dorsalis) is an iguana species found in the Sonoran and Mojave Deserts of the Southwestern United States and northwestern Mexico, as well as on several Gulf of California islands.

Taxonomy
The species was first described in the Proceedings of the Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia, by Spencer Fullerton Baird and Charles Frédéric Girard, in 1852 as Crotaphytus dorsalis. It was reclassified two years later as Dipsosaurus dorsalis by Edward Hallowell. The generic name comes from a combination of two Greek words meaning "thirsty lizard": "Dipsa" (δίψα) for "thirsty", and "sauros" (σαῦρος) for "lizard". The specific name, "dorsalis", comes from the Latin word dorsum meaning "spike", in reference to a row of enlarged spiked scales on the middle of the lizard's back which form a crest that extends almost to the tip of its vent. Dipsosaurus contains two species, D. dorsalis, and D. catalinensis. Genetic evidence supports Dipsosaurus being the most basal extant member of Iguanidae, diverging during the late Eocene, about 38 million years ago.

There are two peninsular and one continental subspecies of the desert iguana.

Description
The desert iguana is a medium-sized lizard which averages 16 in in total length but can grow to a maximum of 24 in including the tail. They are pale gray-tan to cream in color with a light brown reticulated pattern on their backs and sides. Down the center of the back is a row of slightly enlarged, keeled dorsal scales that become slightly larger farther down the back. The reticulated pattern gives way to brown spots near the back legs, turning into stripes along the tail. The tail is usually around 1½ times longer than the body from snout to vent. The belly is pale. During the breeding season, the sides become pinkish in both sexes.

Habitat
Their preferred habitat is largely contained within the range of the creosote bush, mainly dry, sandy desert scrubland below 3300 ft. They have a significant presence in the Sonoran and Mojave deserts. They can also be found in rocky streambeds up to 1,000 m. In the southern portion of its range, these lizards lives in areas of arid subtropical scrub and tropical deciduous forest.

These lizards can withstand high temperatures and are out and about after other lizards have retreated into their burrows. They seek shade when their body temperature is in the low-forties (Celsius), and seek the protection of a burrow when their body temperature reaches the mid-forties (Celsius). They burrow extensively and if threatened will scamper into a shrub and go quickly down a burrow. Their burrows are usually dug in the sand under bushes like the creosote. They also often use burrows of kit foxes and desert tortoises.

Reproduction also plays a role in where these lizards are found. It is believed that the high temperature environment helps with successful hatching of eggs. The eggs often hatch between temperatures of 28 and 38 degrees Celsius.

Diet and reproduction
Mating takes place around May–June. Only one clutch of eggs is laid each year, with each clutch having 3-8 eggs. The hatchlings emerge around September.

Desert iguanas are primarily herbivorous, eating buds, flowers, fruits and leaves of many annual and perennial plants. They are especially attracted to the flowers and leaves of the creosote bush and alfalfa. They also eat insects, especially ants, crickets and mealworms, as well as the feces of other herbivores. Predators of these iguanas and their eggs are birds of prey, foxes, rats, long-tailed weasels, and snakes.

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