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Tecos F.C.

Tecos Fútbol Club (often referred to by its nickname "Tecos" ) is a Mexican professional football club associated with the Universidad Autónoma de Guadalajara AC. It plays its home games in the Estadio 3 de Marzo (March 3 Stadium, named for the day the university was founded in 1935). The 30,015-seat facility is located in Zapopan, a municipality within the Guadalajara, Jalisco conurbation.

Previously named Club de Fútbol Universidad Autónoma de Guadalajara, Estudiantes have won the national championship once and is the only team in Mexican football history to ascend from the two lower divisions and get the Championship (the other team that ascended from lower divisions was Oaxtepec, though it descended later). The club was runner-up in the Mexican League's Clausura 2005, after losing to Club América in the second game, 6–3.

On April 14, 2012 Estudiantes Tecos was relegated to Mexico's Liga de Ascenso after gaining the lowest percentage of points got in the last three years against Atlas and Querétaro. The last straw was a combination of a draw between Estudiantes and Puebla and a victory achieved by Atlas against Monterrey.

Estudiantes won the Clausura 2014 Ascenso MX championship, but lost the promotional final against Leones Negros. On May 22, 2014, Grupo Pachuca president, Jesús Martínez Patiño, announced Estudiantes Tecos would change its location and move to Zacatecas. On May 28, 2014, the move was confirmed and the club changed its name to Mineros de Zacatecas, and Estudiantes Tecos were dissolved.

After being dissolved, they still had a team in Mexico's Third Division, the Liga Premier de Ascenso, but were not allowed to be promoted into Ascenso MX because they were considered a subsidiary of Mineros de Zacatecas.

In August 2015, the Leaño family announced they had bought the image rights from Grupo Pachuca, thus, re-founding the club to play in the Tercera División, the fourth tier of Mexican football.

After the 2016–2017 season in the Tercera Division, Tecos F.C. managed a 4–2 victory against Tuzos Pachuca in a semi-finals match, which promoted them to the Segunda División despite losing to Sporting Canamy in a penalty shootout after a 2–2 final match.

History
The University was founded in 1935 and soon had a team to play amateur football until 1971 when they joined Federacion Mexicana de Futbol. They gained promotion to Liga de Ascenso in their second season after beating La Piedad 4–0 under the management of Guillermo Sepulveda; and two years later in the 1974–75 season, they were promoted to Primera División Mexicana by beating Irapuato in a promotion game under the management of Everardo Villaseñor.

First Years in the First Division
The club played its first Primera División Mexicana match on September 3, 1975 against Puebla F.C., a match which the club went on to lose 2–3. The club's first win was played against Atleticos Campesinos, with the match being played in the Jalisco Stadium. That year the club finished in second place and qualifying to its first liguilla playoff stage. In quarterfinals the club went up against Club América who eliminated the newly promoted club. The following year, the club finished 4th overall and once again qualified to the liguilla, but is once again, knocked out in quarterfinals, this time by Tigres de la UANL.

In the 1979-80 tournament the clubs invited to play a friendly tournament in Spain the Torneo Sol de Valencia which the club manages to win. The story being the complete opposite in their domestic league, where the club failed to qualify to the liguilla.

In the 1980–81 season, Tecos UAG achieved 20 games without losing and ended in the first position of the table creating a national record, but they were unable to get to the finals in the post-season round robin elimination.

In the 1986–87 season, Tecos UAG was shown as one of the biggest contenders of the tournament. Jose Luis Zalazar achieved the Goal Scoring Championship by making 21 goals, the most of them from penalty kicks. They reached the quarterfinals against Cruz Azul and they lost in the penalty shootout where Zalazar failed to score one of the shoots deciding the fate of the game.

1993-94 Championship
After some seasons where they faced bad seasons and others where they could not pass the quarterfinals in the Liguilla, the club hired manager Víctor Manuel Vucetich, known at the time for promoting clubs Potros Neza and León. Vucetich had also managed the last team to win the league title years before.

The squad was formed by players like Carlos Briones, Jorge Gabrich, Porfirio Jiménez, Osmar Donizette, Marcelo Gonçalvez and others. During the first part of the season they fought the top of the table with CD Guadalajara and at the end of the first part of the season, Guadalajara got the first place, but a consistent second part of the season, combined with a record input by goalkeeper Alan Cruz of having more time with his goal undefeated, made the Tecos reach the top of the table, beating CD Guadalajara in the last game and making them play the Repechaje against Atlético Morelia. At the end of the regular tournament Tecos made 51 points, scored 49 goals and only received 26 to be the best defense of the season.

In the Quarterfinals, Tecos beat a weak Atlético Morelia, scoring 3–0 in both games. In the semifinals, they met América. Tecos got the first win of 3–2 in the Azteca Stadium; in a dramatic game, América beat Tecos in the Estadio Tres de Marzo 2–1, but the goal from Edson Zwarich put the tie in the global score and Tecos was able to pass the finals in the top position.

The final was against Santos Laguna, another team that, after surviving relegation several seasons, got reinforced with good players and achieved its first final game. The first game, played on April 27, 1994 was a very rough game that ended 1-0 for Santos in the Corona Stadium in Torreón, that goal was a penalty shot scored by Daniel Guzmán.

The second and final game was played on April 30, 1994, in the Tres de Marzo Stadium. The game was also noted for its aggressiveness, but Tecos was able to beat Santos 1–0 in the normal time due to an own goal by Jesús Gómez, making the global score to tie and forcing the game to overtime, during which Osmar Donizette make a wild run with the ball over Santos defense and scored a goal to break the tie and give Tecos UAG the title.

Irregular years (1994-2005)
After getting the championship Tecos tried to keep the most of the players that helped to get the championship, unfortunately some of them, like Jorge Gabrich and Porfirio Jimenez retired, others were transferred to other teams like Javier Hernandez Gutierrez and others began to lose the quality shown on the previous season like Osmar Donizzette and Edson Zwarich. Finally, Victor Manuel Vucetich resigned his position and this was taken by Luis Fernando Tena.

And with this began a long story of irregular seasons were Tecos UAG barely got qualification. In 1997, the offensive line reinforced with Serbian Zdenko Muf and, later in 1999 with Sebastian Abreu, an Uruguayan player that got himself the last best scorer award for a player from Tecos, and Adolfo Bautista. With these three players Tecos tried to go back to the first places but in 1998 they were eliminated in quarterfinals by Atlas (Verano 98) and Necaxa (Invierno 98). In Invierno 99 they lost again the quarterfinals again against Atlas.

After Invierno 99, the team began to lose positions and the percentage of points in three tournaments began to drop. Tecos survived relegation in 2003. After the Clausura tournament, they scored 7 points by winning one game and losing 14, but Colibríes de Cuernavaca (formerly Atlético Celaya) was relegated instead.

In 1999, Juan Carlos Leaño, the son the team's owner, debuted as a defender in the club's first team.

In Apertura 2002, Tecos managed to get on the second place of group 2, but was easily eliminated by Monarcas 7–2 in quarterfinals round. Their top scorer was Reinaldo Navia with 9 goals. This tournament helped Tecos to survive the Clausura 2003 session when they scored 7 points and finished at the bottom of the table.

In Apertura 2003, Tecos acquired Eliomar Marcon who scored 10 goals in that season, helping the team to reach the repechaje round in that tournament, only to be defeated there by Cruz Azul. The next season, Tecos only made 18 points and was on the last positions of the table, the next season, the relegation was beginning to feel close when they shared the last place of the tournament with Cruz Azul and Dorados with 16 points.

Clausura 2005
For Clausura 2005 tournament, Tecos formed another good squad with Daniel Guzman as the trainer, and reinforced the squad with players with Daniel Ludueña and Juan Pablo Rodriguez.

This season was one of the best for Tecos in terms of goal effectiveness, as long as Ludueña and Eliomar Marcon were able to reach the top 10 scorers table. Tecos was able to reach the fourth position in the table and, even though they were third in their group, they qualified for the Liguilla.

In the quarterfinals they beat Necaxa in two games 4–1. In the semifinals they confronted the top team of the tournament, Monarcas Morelia, in the first game in Zapopan. Tecos won the game 1-0 and then were able to retain their advantage by getting a tie 1–1 in the Morelos Stadium, eliminating the leader.

In the finals against América, Tecos were close to get a big advantage in Zapopan, but in the last minutes a penalty allowed América to get the tie 1-1. Finally, Tecos lost in the Azteca Stadium, 6–3.

For Apertura 2005, Tecos lost some of their score power, but managed to get again to the Liguilla where they were eliminated by Monterrey in the quarterfinal round. In Clausura 2006, Tecos made 21 points that were not enough to reach the Liguilla.

After Daniel Ludueña was transferred to Santos, Tecos lost its score power and, even with the help of Hugo Droguett they began to drown in the position table in the 2007–2008 season.

2009 renovation project
In 2009 a renovation plan was released, where a name and logo change for the club were proposed. This plan was supported by Mexican chairman José Antonio Leaño and family (the club owners), and Juan José Frangie, chairman, who previously worked with C.D. Guadalajara. On May 25, 2009 the project was officially released. The first change was the name; C.F. U.A.G. (Universidad Autónoma de Guadalajara) turned into C.F. Estudiantes, The reason as to the name change was as to update the club's image, resulting in an aesthetic make-over to reference South American team monikers. The new colors are now wine and yellow, formerly a white and red theme. The new uniform and project have been in use since Clausura 2009.

After the rename and also a relocation of their time schedule allowing them to play on Friday nights (in order to attract more people from Guadalajara to see their games), Estudiantes had a good season in the Apertura 2009 enough to pull them in the InterLiga, where they were able to get the pass to the 2010 Copa Libertadores, but they were unable to pass the qualification round after being beaten by Juan Aurich team 4–1.

Relegation
The 2010–2011 seasons shown very poor results for Estudiantes and began in the third worst place of the relegation percentage table just behind Atlas and recently ascended Tijuana. The Apertura 2011 was hard for the three teams and Estudiantes retained its position at the end of that tournament, but a renovation in Tijuana squad and Atlas solid defense during the Clausura 2012 pulled Estudiantes to the last position. Estudiantes lost its position in Mexico's Primera División when Atlas defeated Monterrey 1–0 in Jalisco Stadium, while Tecos draw 1–1 to Puebla in Tres de Marzo stadium, pulling an disadvantage of 7 points with only 2 games (6 points) to play. Last game of Tecos on Primera División was against Querétaro that ended in a draw 1-1.

Sale of Equipment
The Autonomous University of Guadalajara confirmed the sale of Estudiantes Tecos to Grupo Pachuca; Further, it was clarified that the school would still take the student club for Clausura 2013.

"Grupo Pachuca will take operation in May 2013 The Autonomous University of Guadalajara wishes the best of luck to Grupo Pachuca and hopes that this new phase of the team is full of victories and championships", was announced.

Disappearance of Team
On May 22, 2014, the president of Grupo Pachuca, Jesús Martínez Patiño announced that the Club Deportivo Estudiantes Tecos would move from Jalisco to Zacatecas, this happened because there was an agreement with the Zacatecas government to send a professional football team there.

By not getting back Tecos to Liga Bancomer MX, on May 28, 2014, the change of venue and name was confirmed, giving birth to Mineros de Zacatecas.

The reserve team that played in Segunda División de Mexico stayed in Zapopan. In July, it was made official that Estudiantes Tecos would play for the 2014–15 Season in Liga Premier de Ascenso in Group 1 using the shield and uniform of the former Estudiantes Tecos CF.

After 2014–15 Season, Estudiantes Tecos moved the reserve team to Zacatecas and dissolved, too.

Re-founding (New Era)
In August 2015, the Leaño family announced they had bought the image rights from Grupo Pachuca, thus, re-founding the club to play in the Tercera División, the fourth tier of Mexican football. The previous owner, Antonio Leaño and his son Juan Carlos Leaño, estimate that the club's goal is to reach the Ascenso MX and/or the 1st Division within 5–6 years.

In the 2016–17 season, under the leadership of Rodrigo 'El Pony' Ruiz, the team managed to promote to the Segunda División after reaching the final by defeating Tuzos Pachuca in the semi-finals 4–2. In the final, Tecos faced Sporting Canamy, tying 2-2 after 120 minutes of playing. In the penalty shootout, however, Sporting Canamy would be crowned champion.

Subsequently, Tecos requested the annulment of the result of the final arguing the use of players over the age limit allowed by the regulation, known in Mexico as (Cachirules). On June 19, 2017, the disciplinary commission accepted the request of Tecos to find evidence of alteration of the birth certificate of a Canamy player, in this way Tecos was proclaimed champion of the Third Division, achieving his promotion to the Second Division Serie A.

The Tecos name
Originally Estudiantes Tecos was commonly called Tecos U.A.G., since the name Tecos has a double meaning for U.A.G. students, as it is a short way for saying "Tecolote" (some types of owl in Mexico), as well as an acronym for "Tarea Educativa y Cultural hacia el Orden y la Sintesis" (Educative and Cultural Work for the Order and the Synthesis), a group formed by students and academics of the university.

Club de Fútbol Universidad Autónoma de Guadalajara: (1971-2009) Official name of the football club affiliated with the Universidad Autónoma de Guadalajara, commonly known as Tecos de la UAG.

Club Deportivo Estudiantes Tecos: (2009-2015) Name assumed after the acquisition of the club by Grupo Pachuca.

Tecos Fútbol Club: (2015-) Name assumed after the re-foundation of the club following the sale of sporting rights to Zacatecas.

Low position in Guadalajara football history
When Tecos UAG ascended to the First Division, Guadalajara was unexpectedly saturated with soccer teams with five teams playing in the First Division (Guadalajara, Atlas, Tecos, Universidad de Guadalajara and Jalisco). This number was eventually reduced to three due to the relegation of Jalisco and Atlas for one season.

Initially Tecos biggest rival was the Universidad de Guadalajara. This rivalry was based on the fact that both teams represent universities in the same city, with U.A.G. being a private university and U. de G. a public university. The U. de G. team was more popular than Tecos and also sometimes more successful by reaching the finals more times than U.A.G. and even winning a Mexico Cup. Unfortunately, the U. de G. never won a regular season while Tecos did. Tragically, the U. de G. lost their franchise due to economic issues that lead to the team being sold to FEMEXFUT in 1994.

Tecos tried to maintain the popularity it received after their championship but bad campaigns, combined with the success of Chivas in 1997 and the popularity boost that Atlas got at the end of the nineties resulted in Tecos keeping a low profile compared to the other teams in the city.

In the last years of Tecos' stay in the Primera, the team tried to create a rivalry with both Atlas and Guadalajara, but it never was taken seriously due to Tecos' lack of fan support. Unofficially, the rivalry with Atlas was called "El clasico de la avenida Patria" (Patria avenue derby) and "El clasico de Zapopan" (The Zapopan Derby) due to both teams having their clubs located on the same avenue in Zapopan.

In the history of the team, Tecos distinguished itself from other teams as it was the only team in the League that did not have a barra brava and instead a student supporters squad, called "Los Reprovados"( The Undergraduates). In the first years of the club, U.A.G. students were allowed to enter the stadium to see most games for free. However, the cheerleading squad was distinguished to keep standing and making noise all the time they were in the stadium unaware of the results and by respecting fellow animation squads.

Kit evolution and rare kits

 * Home kit: Burgundy shirt with a yellow transparent slash going from the right shoulder to the left waist, with burgundy shorts and socks.
 * Away kit: White shirt with a golden slash going from the right shoulder to the left waist, with white shorts and socks.

 * First kit evolution

Checker patterns

 * First kit evolution

University colors 2009–2014

 * First kit evolution

Stadium
They play their home games at the Estadio Tres de Marzo which is located in Zapopan, Jalisco. It has a capacity of 30,015 and was constructed in 1971. Its most recent renovation was in 1999.

Reserve teams

 * Tecos F.C. (Liga TDP)
 * Reserve team that plays in the Liga TDP, the fourth level of the Mexican league system.

Notable former players

 * 🇲🇽 Francisco Guareño Robles
 * 🇦🇷 Mauro Cejas
 * 🇦🇷 Diego Colotto
 * 🇦🇷 🇲🇽 Daniel Ludueña
 * 🇦🇷 Emanuel Villa
 * 🇧🇷 Antônio Carlos Santos
 * 🇧🇷 Eliomar Marcón
 * 🇧🇷 Gonçalves
 * 🇧🇷 Osmar Donizete
 * 🇨🇲 David Embé
 * 🇨🇱 Hugo Droguett
 * 🇨🇱 Miguel Ángel Gamboa
 * 🇨🇱 Sebastián González
 * 🇨🇱 Reinaldo Navia
 * 🇨🇱 Nelson Pinto
 * 🇨🇱 🇲🇽 Rodrigo Ruiz
 * 🇨🇷 Reynaldo Parks
 * 🇨🇷 Jafet Soto
 * 🇪🇨 Nicolas Asencio
 * 🇬🇹 Byron Pérez
 * 🇭🇳 Danilo Turcios
 * 🇰🇪 Mathayo Huma
 * 🇲🇽 Adolfo Bautista
 * 🇲🇽 Alfredo Tena
 * 🇲🇽 Duilio Davino
 * 🇲🇽 Flavio Davino
 * 🇲🇽 José de Jesús Corona
 * 🇲🇽 Cristo Fernández
 * 🇲🇽 Javier Hernández Gutiérrez
 * 🇲🇽 Juan Carlos Leaño
 * 🇲🇽 Rafael Medina
 * 🇲🇽 Jaime Ordiales
 * 🇲🇽 Pável Pardo
 * 🇲🇽 Arnhold Rivas
 * 🇲🇽 José Luis Salgado
 * 🇲🇽 Joel Sánchez
 * 🇲🇽 Juan Carlos Valenzuela
 * 🇲🇽 Taufic Guarch
 * 🇲🇽 Eduardo Lillingston
 * 🇲🇽 Said Godínez
 * 🇵🇾 Freddy Bareiro
 * 🇵🇾 Diego Gavilán
 * 🇵🇾 🇲🇽 Hugo Kiesse

 * 🇵🇪 Roberto Palacios
 * 🇵🇪 Franco Navarro
 * 🇵🇪 Julio César Uribe
 * 🇷🇸 Zdenko Muf
 * 🇺🇸 🇲🇽 Sammy Ochoa
 * 🇺🇸 Herculez Gomez
 * 🇺🇾 Sebastián Abreu
 * 🇺🇾 Antonio Alzamendi
 * 🇺🇾 Juan Ramón Carrasco
 * 🇺🇾 Rubén da Silva
 * 🇺🇾 Marcelo Sosa
 * 🇺🇾 José Luis Zalazar
 * 🇺🇾 Eduardo Mario Acevedo

Managers

 * 🇭🇺 Árpád Fekete (1977–1978)
 * 🇦🇹 Helmut Senekowitsch (1978–1979, 1985–1988)
 * 🇲🇽 Bora Milutinović (1988–1989)
 * 🇲🇽 Víctor Manuel Vucetich (July 1993–June 1995), (July 1997–Aug 1998)
 * 🇦🇷 Roberto Saporiti (July 1999–Dec 1999)
 * 🇦🇷 Rubén Omar Romano (July 2000–Nov 2001)
 * 🇦🇷 Oscar Ruggeri (2003)
 * 🇺🇾 Eduardo Mario Acevedo (2003–2004)
 * 🇲🇽 Daniel Guzmán (Oct 2004–June 5 2005)
 * 🇺🇾 Eduardo Mario Acevedo (2005–2006)
 * 🇨🇱 Carlos Reinoso (March 2006–Sept 2006)
 * 🇦🇷 Darío Franco (Sept 2006–Aug 2007)
 * 🇲🇽 Jaime Ordiales (interim) (Aug 2007)
 * 🇦🇷 César Luis Menotti (Sept 2007–Jan 2008)
 * 🇲🇽 Jaime Ordiales (Jan 2008–March 2008)
 * 🇲🇽 José Luis Trejo (March 2008–Sept 2008)
 * 🇲🇽 Miguel Herrera (Sept 2008–Sept 2010)
 * 🇺🇾 Eduardo Mario Acevedo (Sept 2010–Dec 2010)
 * 🇲🇽 José Luis Sánchez (Jan 2011–Aug 2011)
 * 🇲🇽 Álvaro Galindo (interim) (Aug 2011)
 * 🇲🇽 Raúl Arias (Aug 2011–Nov 2011)
 * 🇲🇽 José Luis Salgado (interim) (Nov 2011–Dec 2011)
 * 🇲🇽 José Luis Salgado (Jan 2012)
 * 🇲🇽 Gilberto Adame (Jan 2012) (interim)
 * 🇺🇾 Héctor Eugui (Jan 2012 – Dec 2012)
 * 🇲🇽 Manuel Vidrio (Jan 2013 – Sep 2013)
 * 🇪🇸 Pako Ayestarán (Sep 2013 – Jun 2014)
 * 🇨🇱 Rodrigo Ruiz (Aug 2015 – May 2019)
 * 🇲🇽 Daniel Alcántar (Jun 2019 – Dec 2020)
 * 🇲🇽 Isaac Moreno (Dec 2020 – May 2021)
 * 🇲🇽 Héctor Medrano (Jul 2021 – Jul 2022)
 * 🇲🇽 Jorge Hernández (Jul 2022 – current)

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Repanidi (Greek, Modern: Ρεπανίδι), accented form: , older form: -o and -on is a Greek village 30 km ENE of Myrina in the municipality of Moudros, Greece. Its 2001 population was 365 people. It is located in the northeast of the island of Lemnos. It is the only place on the whole island that the center lies north of the 40th parallel, parts of it are below the parallel. The island of Imbros in Turkey is just 20 km northeast.

Η Πλάκα είναι χωριό της Λήμνου που ανήκει στο Δήμο Μούδρου. Έχει 365 κατοίκους (2001).

History
The village was first mentioned as Repanidion in 1285 in a census record. Pteris (Πτέρις) or 'Pterin (Πτέριν) was a monastery in Lemnos near Tsimandria. Between all those had a chapel known as Odigitrias. In Repanidi it had about a total of 28 parishes in which it had in all of Lemnos.

In 1418, Buondelmonti mentioned the village as Rapagnidi (Ραπανίδι) and was located in the outer part of the island. The next mentioning was Belon in 1548 in which he visited the island for several days and presented the realization of nearby paths in Hephaestia and the hill of the Lemnian land. It mentioned repeatedly as Rapagnidi and that mentioned on a map written in 1588. It wrote it founded a nearby port known as Ekato Kefalon (Εκατό Κεφαλών = The Hundred Heads'') in which it was mentioned in a 1588 map as Ecato Cephales.

Eqaton Cephales was also mentioned in Buondelmonti in 1418 in Hephaestia hill. Its port was founded and was used during the years of Piri Reis in 1521, in which it was mentioned in the map as Limãn-i-jüz baš (Port of Ekato Kefalo). Belon tried as in Repanidi lost six rifles on Kotsinos hill and three was a port, when he was fishing with a hook and a net.

That information that mentioned as the village was not located in a present day location and was founded near Agios Ypatios. Near the village founded its only forest in Lemnos, it contained beech and oak trees, the fruits which was used for skin production. In 1611, it was mentioned that the pirates plundered a sailboat with 13 sailers in which they were headed from Limnos to Samothrace, its information did not receive when it was raided. Several raids occurred until today in the area.

The village was also mentioned: from the doctor Albacario (late 16th century) as Raponidi in whcih he was travelling to the Lemnian land, on the map of Choiseul-Gouffier (1785), Herpagni, from Lacroix (1820) as Rapanidi and from Conze in 1858 as Drepanidi. The last one did not found the same village with Agios Ypatios, when it was mentioned in English maps of the time. Here it has the sources, even the 1858 map which was mentioned, in these old maps which mentioned even Anypati. The movine did nto happen and became much older during the beginning of the 19th century.

Conze visited the port's spring of the Lemnian land and walked next to the bumps, a jar which was scaled in a rock (vine), in which left the must for boiling before it was carried into the barrell. He used in an ancient tomb-like vessel that came from Hephaestia, he asked a cafe customer in the village, Anagnostis Papasavvas. Later it was sold to the Louvres. As Drepanidi which was written in the maps of De Launay in 1898 but Fredrich's 1904 map mentioned correctly as Repanidi.

Name
In older sources as Repandion and Rapanidi (Ραπανίδι), it was known from the 13th to the 16th centuries and founded in a communal census from the 19th century with its forms: Repanidi, Rapanidi, Ropanidi, Repanidi (Ρεπανήδι, with an eta in the first i) and Repanidi. Its village name derived from a plant known as a radish, it meant it derived from a plant name.

Some different sources which it had for some times stated (from creeping in a scythe of the oak) did nto made it.

People

 * Spyridon P. Pilitsis, one of the first Greek air pilot during the interwar period.

Sites of interests

 * Agios Dimitrios Monastery
 * Agios Charalambos
 * The lighthouse
 * Vriokastro

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Neanderthal
I'd like to get creative and professional input regarding this article. One day, I think it could be a Featured Article candidate. Jason Potter 10:30, 16 Feb 2005
 * This article is in bad shape factually. Don't feature it without a substantial rewrite.  72.177.40.111 (talk) 00:54, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * A lot of interesting stuff here, but a few things occur to me. Content-wise, there is not a huge amount about what they evolved from and nothing about why they were superceded by modern man.  Also, I recall reading that Neanderthal and modern man may have co-existed for a while, more information on that would be interesting.  You mention the term Mousterian in the intro, but I think it should also be discussed when it first appears in the main text.  And a minor point, but at one point the article says they were about 5'6", then later says they are known for their greater size compared to modern humans.
 * Style-wise I think a general proofread would be good, there are a few sentences which seem slightly awkwardly worded. I will give it a proofread myself shortly. Worldtraveller 17:27, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * It looks good. I didn't notice anything about the controversy over whether humans and neanderthals interbred. Otherwise I generally agree with above comments. — RJH 23:56, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I was surprised also by the lack of mention of human-neanderthal interbreeding aside from in external links. Also would like to see the possible reasons for extinction considered (I've read evidence - cited in Guns, Germs and Steel I think - that modern humans had no perceptible advantage over Neanderthals in overlapping territories such as modern Israel until a time period when modern human suddenly began rapidly developing new tools.  The conclusion from this is supposed to be that the sudden spurt of new developments and inventions was due to the advent of advanced language, and that this became our major evolutionary advantage over neanderthals).  Point is that there's a lot of theories out there on what gave us the edge that seem to belong to this article.
 * Also, I think that the Human evolution link should be more prominent instead of an afterthought, and that the main article should discuss more thoroughly how neanderthals fit into human evolution (ie where we think they evolved from, if any date has been mentioned as last common ancestor between us and them, etc). Laura Scudder 00:47, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah, I've found the Neandertal interaction with Cro-Magnons article at the bottom now. Seems important enough to warrant a summary section in the Neanderthal article with a "Main article:" link. At least right now the article doesn't seem fully fleshed out on its own.  Laura Scudder 00:51, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

In the Tools section you are missing much learned from Ötzi the Iceman, and other sites in recent years in that they did use bone tools and performed copper smelting. The few simple things he carried with him are known to have a multitude of uses. The specific specie of polypore he carried is used for tinder, medicine, leather, and as a razor strop. Schlüggell 01:48, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This isn't my area of expertise, but I do read a lot. I'd like to add a little spin to this discussion. I see no reference in any of this discussion on the Neandertal infant skeletal remains documented in Bruce Bower, “Neandertal Tot Enters Human-Origins Debate,” Science News 145 (1994), and Schwartz and Tattersall, “Significance of Some Previously Unrecongnized Apomorphies in the Nasal Region of Homo Neanderthalensis,” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA, vol. 93 (1996), pages 10852-10854, which conclude that Homo Erectus neither descended from nor bears any biological connection to the Neandertal species.

Nor can I find reference to the following genetic studies: Kahn and Gibbons, “DNA from an Extinct Human,” Matthias Krings, et all, “Neandertal DNA Sequences of the Mitochondrial Hypervariable Region II fromthe Neandertal Type Specimen,” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA, vol 96 (000), Matthias Hoss, “Neanderthal Population Genetics,” Nature 404 (2000), Igor V. Ovchinnikov, et al., “Molecular Analysis of Neanderthat DNA from the Northern Caucasus,” Nature 404 (2000) or Matthias Krings, et al., “A View of Neandertal Genetic Diversity,” Nature Genetics 26 (2000), which conclude and reinforce the position that Neandertals did not contribute mtDNA to the contemporary human gene pool.
 * Correct. And this is a glaring error, and it makes all the hybridization discussions laughable to those in the field.  72.177.40.111 (talk) 00:55, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mario Coutinho

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep. Joyous 23:05, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)

Mario Coutinho
The article reads: "Mario Coutinho was born in Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais. Cardiologist, Intensivist, medical researcher and professor of Medicine at the Federal University of Santa Catarina." End of article. 473 google hits on google. What sort of criteria must a professor meet in order to be included on Wikipedia? (No vote.) GRider\talk 00:30, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. Borderline notable for me. Megan1967 05:30, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails the professor test (i.e. not more notable than youra verage professor). Radiant! 09:13, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - passes the Pokemon Comparative Notability Test - David Gerard 15:09, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, seems notable enough. JamesBurns 06:23, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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