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Talk to me, my people
Hi Zeromacnoo, I was wondering what you think of the template box as used in the Billy Brandt page? Though structure is nice, it doesn't add much in my opinion, and I don't really like it that the layout is so much influenced by the box. (in my opinion, just a larger box cover image in a frame looks better). Let me know what you think ;-)

Your new additions look great by the way. We're really making progress!

Spheroide 17:59, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm not really crazy about template boxes. The question is, do you want to spend time arguing about this with User:Daydream believer2, who I assume is attached to the idea, or spend your time creating new articles? I'd leave it alone. If he starts to add them to other articles, then let's talk to him about it, but otherwise I don't think it's worth it.
 * It is so much better creating new content here when I get to read articles written by others as well. I really enjoy your contributions. Zeromacnoo 18:05, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree. Let's just leave it for now. Spheroide 22:22, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

I took a look at the discussion on the autofellatio image you told me about. Indeed, neverending discussion ;-) There is a clear statement about Wikipedia not being there to protect minors from possible harmful content in the What Wikipedia Is Not-page though, so I now think the image on the Simon Rex page is ok. I'll stick to DVD covers though, just to be sure.

A possible mass-deletion for all the gay porn actor articles is also one of my concerns. Indeed, the best way to prevent that is by just writing very good articles! And showing "they are all connected" in a true Wikipedia fashion by linking them where needed. Working on that ;-) A mass deletion would be really stupid, though, since a lot of these articles are interesting for a large group of people. These guys didn't become porn stars for nothing of course! Perfect material for Wikipedia, especially since this could become thé #1 source of structured information if the subject of gay porn stars (and studios) in Wikipedia progresses further. It needs time and contributions of course. Bye!

P.s. I don't think you get a "new message" message when I reply to something you write to me on my own talk page do you? It would give a more structured talk maybe... Spheroide 21:25, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi again. Great new adition, for Tag Adams, I didn't even know him until today. Ah the wonders of Wikipedia. The added image indeed gives the entire article a much better look, and happily DVD covers are allowed, as long as they are low res. I also followed your advice on the "List of pornographic movie studios", and have just added my new article on Cobra Video there. I think we should limit our images to the more "decent" ones. I think it's all fine as long as we don't put any hard penisses up there ;) Personally, I think the image in the article on Simon Rex, is just a little over the limit for an encyclopedia (even an encyclopedia starting to contain a lot of cool articles on porn stars)... What do you think?

Spheroide 18:47, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Uhh... I just wrote "I think the new structure for list of male porn stars is much better", of course I should have written "I think the new structure for list of gay porn stars is much better". Oops.

Spheroide 19:37, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi again. I think I'll add the Junior Studio article somewhere this week. I have to do some research first, since I have no idea if it is owned by Kevin Clarke / Richard Morgan or of they just work for it. Any idea?

I think the new structure for the list of male porn stars is much better. Especially the anchor letters at the top, very handy! It's gonna take us another 100 years to complete the list though ;-)

Spheroide 19:31, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanx for your help!
Hi Zeromacnoo, thanx for helping me with edits on some of the gay porn star pages I created or edited lately. It's cool to have a feeling of not being alone in this part of the Wikipedia ;-) Maybe one day we'll have all important/interesting gay male porn stars covered. For now, lot's of work still to be done!

p.s. I just added Brent Everett

Spheroide 20:40, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

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I only changed fictional info into factual info. I didn't add anything substantial for a reason: No one likes people prying into their personal lives.

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Thanks
Thank you for the tip about DVD covers. Hopefully I will find the time to upload some soon; it's quite a job just trying to get the text itself in shape. Looks like we're working towards the same goal, but involving different sides of the industry :) -EdgarAllanToe 17:24, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Mark Wolff pic..
Hey there Zeromacnoo, Would it be Ok if I replace that DVD cover of Mark Wolff that you uploaded with this other low res one? The reason why is because this is of his most recent video and it shows him more prominently unlike the other cover. PLMK. Thanks. :)

--Hecktor 20:07, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Kevin Morgan (porn star)
I've speedy deleted the article (non-notable bio). It may have been a vanity page... Lectonar 13:13, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I didn't want to imply that these performers are non-notable in general (sorry if you took it like that), but this particular one was definitely not notable enough for an encyclopedia. Regards. Lectonar 07:45, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Rex Chandler Help
Hey there. I noticed that you are one of the high up guys of porn star entries. I was wondering if you could possibly look at the Rex Chandler page I made and let me know if it is offensive or not. He is nude, but in a flaccid at ease pose. If you could moderate it to confirm if it is safe or not I would be very appreciative. Thanks!

Gay Romanian Porn
Hey..I liked ur articles..I ve started an article called Romanian Gay Porn...I watched some clips from Romanian gay movies..I dont know who produce them...Actors are generally brunette muscled hunks...

In one movie bottom one was wearing a mask...

Hi Zeromacnoo, thanks for ur reply. I had tried to add an article about "Romanian Gay Porn". I am interested in porn movies of romanian porn stars. They speak Romanian in the movies so I thought movies were produced in Romania. Do you have knowledge about romanian porn stars (i dont mean Ion Davidov)? and about these movies..who produce them?

Serkanbulan

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Hi, Zeromacnoo. I noticed you're concerned with deletionists going after adult oriented entries so I thought I'd bring this to your attention in the hope that you'll lend your support. After it was kept the first time, the List of Perfect 10 models has been put up for deletion a second time. Articles for deletion/ (second nomination) The claim is made that almost none of the models are notable, even though over 40 have their own Wikipedia entries. But far worse than that, it's being argued that since an un-named model sent an e-mail to an admin saying she didn't want to be listed, the WHOLE list should be deleted! If allowed to succeed, it'll mean that the same reason can be given to pre-emptively delete ANY adult oriented list whenever someone decides to pull it. --Alsayid 23:06, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Zeromacnoo: I am new to Wikipedia, and I have a very simple question. On the List of Gay Porn Stars, of the porn stars that do not appear in blue with a link to their Wikipedia article, why are some of the porn stars in red and invite you to write a Wikipedia article on them, and others are in black with no invitation to create an article? Who determines which porn stars appear in red type? Just wondering. RichardDKBaird 06:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC) --RichardDKBaird

Tristan Paris?
Hi Zeromacnoo, I was going through the porn stub list and noticed an article on a gay porn star, Tristan Paris. Since this is your area of expertise, perhaps you may know whether or not we should prod/afd this article or not. It's obviously sparse and has no references of any kind. Your knowledge and help would be appreciated! Thanks! -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. Think out loud 23:50, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Young Physique Magazine
WHY did you remove my reference to Young Physique magazine? It is important that people know about this magazine. It was the most important gay magazine of the 1960's. Also, in my opinion, models look more sexy when they are wearing g-strings than when they are simply naked. RichardDKBaird 06:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

You said "Please feel free to add any information or additional titles that you may have" in your entry on the List of Gay Pornographic Magazines discussion page: Zeromacnoo 18:26, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC). So again, WHY did you remove my reference to Young Physique magazine? RDKB

 * Oops! I am so sorry! I did that by mistake. I have now restored your description. Please accept my apology. I am glad you caught my mistake. I must slow down when I edit so that I don't do things like that again. Keep up the great work. Zeromacnoo 23:41, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

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Miguel Lopez
Zeromacnoo, could you take a look at Miguel Lopez and tell me what you think? Is Miguel notable at all? It looks like it needs sources and some fixup, as far as I can tell. Thanks in advance! -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. Think out loud 20:20, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Seems to be legitimate, and the controversy makes him notable, although I should look for a source for that. I'l be away for a couple of weeks, and will look into this more when I get back. Zeromacnoo 12:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks! -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. Think out loud 00:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Erik Rhodes
Hey, I've recently created an article for Erik Rhodes, and apparently, there was an actor by the same name in the 1930s. I created a disambiguation page to distinguish them, and made a search for Erik Rhodes link to the disambiguation page. This has upset someone, who has requested that the actor's page be moved to the default under the theory that the actor is more notable. I disagree; I think the porn star is at least as notable as the actor from the 1930s. I see your name across quite a few of the porn pages, and was wondering if you had any opinion to voice on the notability of Mr. Rhodes? I would appreciate any help that you have to offer. --Todd 07:12, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with the porn star page being added, if indeed it is deemed notable, what I object to is that SneakyTodd moved the actor from his existing page to Erik Rhodes (actor). This disabled numerous existing links. The guideline that I have seen in the past is to put a link at the top of the original page to the new page or to a disambiguation page when there are several, instead of just one more person of the same name, leaving the original article in place. The other question that I have, if this an area of your expertise, is the numerous links to commercial sites on the porn stars page. It was my understanding that these commercial links were not to be used. Doc 08:53, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thanks for the heads-up on the Erik Rhodes discussion! Although I'm not fanatically devoted to preserving porn star pages, I'd usually agree with keeping them. And I can't deny I always enjoy finding out more in this particular area :p. Daydream believer2 03:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Ditto
I appreciate the heads-up as well. Any way to contact you privately? I'd like to ask questions "off the record" to at least postpone demonstrating my ignorance.... My E-mail this user link works. Chidom 06:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd be interested in learning more about what's happening, privately, as well. And if you can make any film recommendations :p... Daydream believer2 09:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

May I borrow your eagle eye?
How-dee. Could you take a gander at these two pages and see if you find any glaring errors? I've been working on them for so long that I can't see anything anymore; you wouldn't believe the error I did find before the last save (I'm not telling!). When or if you get a chance; otherwise, I'm sure someone will catch things along the way. 1. Adult Erotic Gay Video Awards; 2. Grabby recipients — Chidom   talk   06:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

More Beefcake Magazines Added
I (RichardDKBaird) am using the name Keranous now. I changed my screen name because I though your name "Zeromacnoo" was so cool. I added the new magazines from my collection as I said I would to your Beefcake magazines article. I organized the magazines into full sized and pocket sized. Best wishes, Keraunos 02:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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T'anks
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Rick Donovan
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Falcon Enterntainment
I've added a copy of the page to User:Zeromacnoo/Falcon. A few words however, saying that "Some people believe that nothing the in the world of gay porn deserves an article on Wikipedia for reasons of prudishness, but they must be reminded that Wikipedia is not censored" is not called for. The article was deleted because it looked like an advertisement. There is no need to make uncivil claims about "prudishness" nor a need to remind anyone that Wikipedia's censorship policies when they are marking things under standard deletion criteria. JoshuaZ 21:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Ah, I guess I didn't look hard enough for what happened to the Falcon article. I created a stub replacement for it, and one of the people that speedy deleted the original is now attempted to delete the stub article I created for lack of notability, and because it is currently just a placeholder article.  Based on your editting habits, I figured you might be able to aid in the debate.  -Todd ( Talk - Contribs ) 05:50, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for keeping the LGBT notice board up to date with the results of the AFD about Falcon. However, please archive resolved entries by adding them to the sections lower on the page. Thanks. -- Samuel Wantman 01:26, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

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19th-century turnpikes in Rhode Island

The following turnpikes were chartered and built in Rhode Island:
 * 1) West Glocester Turnpike 1794
 * 2) Providence and Norwich Turnpike 1794
 * 3) Rhode Island and Connecticut Turnpike 1803
 * 4) Glocester Turnpike 1804
 * 5) Providence and Douglass Turnpike 1805
 * 6) Rhode Island Turnpike 1805
 * 7) Loisquisset Turnpike 1806
 * 8) Providence and Pawtucket Turnpike 1807
 * 9) Farnum and Providence Turnpike 1808
 * 10) Woonasquatucket Turnpike 1810
 * 11) Powder Mill Turnpike 1810
 * 12) Natick Turnpike 1812
 * 13) Valley Falls Turnpike 1813
 * 14) Foster and Scituate Turnpike 1813
 * 15) Foster and Scituate Central Turnpike 1813
 * 16) Coventry and Cranston Turnpike
 * 17) Providence and Pawcatuck Turnpike 1816
 * 18) Hopkinton and Richmond Turnpike 1820
 * 19) Smithfield Turnpike 1823
 * 20) Pawtuxet Turnpike 1825
 * 21) Mineral Spring Turnpike 1825
 * 22) Pawtucket and Providence East Turnpike 1825
 * 23) Fall River and Watupper Turnpike 1827 (became within Massachusetts after a border change in 1861)
 * 24) Stone Bridge and Fall River Turnpike 1838

Current turnpikes
There is only one turnpike in Rhode Island currently:
 * New London Turnpike

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Shaftment

The shaftment is an obsolete unit of length defined since the 12th century as 6 inches, which nowadays is exactly 6 in. A shaftment was traditionally the width of the fist and outstretched thumb. The lengths of poles, staves, etc. can be easily measured by grasping the bottom of the staff with thumb extended and repeating such hand over hand grips along the length of the staff.

History
It occurs in Anglo-Saxon written records as early as 910 and in English as late as 1474. After the modern foot came into use in the twelfth century, the shaftment was reinterpreted as exactly 1⁄2 foot or 6 in.

Spelling and etymology
Other spellings include schaftmond and scaeftemunde, and shathmont. It is derived from Old English sceaft, in turn from skaftaz ('shaft') and Old English mund, from the Proto-Germanic mund, in turn from ('hand').

Two shaftments make a.

This unit has mostly fallen out of use, as have others based on the human arm: digit ($1/8$ shaftment), finger ($7/48$ shaftment), palm (1⁄2 shaftment) hand (2⁄3 shaftment), span (1.5 shaftments), cubit (3 shaftments) and ell (7.5 shaftments).

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Talk:George Lopez

George
. . .aired in ABC's TGIF lineup in 2003-2004, and is now shown on ABC at 8:30 on Tuesday nights. Is this still the correct time? In what time zone is it anyway?--BlueGlowGuardian 17:16, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I know it's on at 9:00 and 9:30 on nick at nite, but i am in the central time zone of usa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.29.200 (talk) 23:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC) You should add a picture of George lopez in the american idol — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.105.163.25 (talk) 20:43, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Regarding copying and pasting
You may notice the hideous broken line box within the article. that is from copy and pating from a websise. To all new wikipedians: please don't copy and paste from the internet, write ou the whole thing71.247.87.39 22:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Can someone confirm this? Thanks. 70.96.210.48 00:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Lead
Is this lead a joke? It doesn't satisfy WP:LEAD at all. He truly enjoys the taste of freshly fried toe. --Ideogram 16:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

is that really his favorite food?

Expand
Needs Expansion, Specifically a controversies section. Several comedians and their pages have been blasted by him and his supporters. And yet his page is untouched in regards to controversies, other than a quick mention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.134.114.218 (talk) 05:41, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Needs a section on "The George Lopez Show"
MikeWren 18:00, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

"Lucy Show" Hispanic-Themed?
"The show featured a majority Hispanic cast and is the second-longest running Hispanic-themed sitcom, after "I Love Lucy." " "I Love Lucy" featured one Hispanic character hola i am a hispanic person and i like to party hard with booze and cigars also we are going to take a photo of girls and did not focus on his life outside his marriage to Lucy. We know very little about Ricky Ricardo popo head dodo head other than he was a very successful band-leader who came from Cuba. This does not make that show "Hispanic-themed." Better to say:""The George Lopez Show" is the second longest running network sitcom to feature at least one major Hispanic character." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.166.1.137 (talk) 18:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC) Verry Funny show

The Brothers Garcia
George Lopez was in The Brothers Garcia. Put it on the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.54.0.168 (talk) 01:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Lopez Tonight
They have released more details on George's Night Show. It will be called Lopez Tonight and will premiere Monday November 9th, 2009! and i can't wait!And now its over it was cancelled august 12 2011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.241.0 (talk) 17:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

"Mexican American" in lead
Part 3 of WP:MOSBIO states that "Ethnicity should generally not be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability". I agree that it is notable in this case, and that is why I added "His stand-up comedy examines race relations and Mexican American culture" to the opening paragraph (WP:MOSBIO doesn't say that it has to be in the very first sentence). Simply introducing Lopez as a "Mexican American comedian and actor", on the other hand, doesn't tell me anything other than that Lopez happens to be Mexican-American. All Hallow's (talk) 09:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

And it doesnt state that it should not be in the first sentence either. Since his city of birth makes it obvious that he is an american, it is pointless to introduce the article as him being strictly ' an american comedian...'TomNativeNewYorker (talk) 10:59, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * How is it "pointless" to introduce him as an American comedian? He is one! His city of birth isn't in the header, and what is pointless is stating he's "Mexican American" twice in the header. All Hallow's (talk) 17:07, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

 * His notability as a comedian/actor is the fact that he is a Mexican-American and his act revolves around his ethnicity. There is NOTHING in the MOS that prohibits ethnicity from articles. Apparently, for whatever personal reasons of yours, you go around to different articles and remove any ethnic information from articles and claim it is against the MOS which apparently it isnt. I have noticed with some articles, you remove the informotion in a location YOU feel it doesnt belong, but you will not even place it in any other area of the article. To me, that comes across as if you only remove it because you do not want to see it at all.TomNativeNewYorker (talk) 13:45, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Wow buddy...Its just a Wikipedia article. Calm down mama cita, take a deep breath, and enjoy life. Jesus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.163.194 (talk) 02:11, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Talkpage ettiquette and page clean-up
Prior to now, there were a lot of comments that were not directed towards article improvement. Not English comments should not be allowed. No personal attacks in responding to other editor questions. No posting of email addresses ala a fansite. Stray comments saying hi as if the subject reads this page. Stray editting and other immaterial stuff was removed.

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I recommend that this page be archived with only current month preserved. --Morenooso (talk) 07:09, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Please see NOT; item 4 - Not a discussion forum. --Morenooso (talk) 07:15, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit war/reverts on the Sarah Palin citation
Editors are getting hung up on the fact that title of the article/citation reads 'La Cabrona' which means bitch in Spanish. If you watch the video he does call her that. If we are going to follow WP:V, the initial words should read 'La Cabrona' with the translated words afterward. All these reverts are not WP:CIVIL. Let's improve the citation to read appropriately. --Morenooso (talk) 18:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I think editors are getting hung up on the citing of a video snippet of a stand-up comedy routine, and using the punch-line of a joke ("special needs"), without context, as if it was somehow relevant in a living person's biography. Try following WP:BLP. Xenophrenic (talk) 18:34, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The helpdesk knows how to do the proper reference if someone wants to tie them up when they doing other needed duties. The article's title at the URL provides directly what was improved upon by the initial edit. As per Jimbo Wales, Let's not bite (the newcomers) or edits. --Morenooso (talk) 18:38, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * A potential 3RR situation might occur should any more reverts occur. Please note, my edit technically is not a revert but I will not cross that line. --Morenooso (talk) 18:46, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * This is not a WP:BLP issue either. George Lopez+Sarah Palin gets ghits which means it is being reported elsewhere as in this thisurl. The user, who exceeded 3RR has changed his revert reasoning from his earlier post @ 1834 hours. Now, if this was Palin's bio and not accurately sourced, that would be a BLP issue. But this one has sourcing from other sources which can be added. --Morenooso (talk) 19:16, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Fortunately the removal of disputed, contentious content in obvious violation of WP:BLP is not subject to the 3RR restriction. I have put the comments into context and returned them temporarily to the article. I still do not see justification for the insertion of a comedy routine punch-line into the biography of a living person. What is it we are trying to convey about Lopez with the insertion of that one sentence? Is it a political opinion, a personal opinion of his, an example of comedy stylings? There isn't broad coverage of this joke in reliable sources, so I do not see the relevance.  Unless there are any significant objections, and valid reasons for keeping it, I'll be removing it. (The desire to smear Palin isn't a valid reason to insert content like that.) Xenophrenic (talk) 19:30, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No, the BLP policy states that removal of unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material is not subject to the 3RR restriction. The material is not unsourced or poorly sourced.  I'm OK with the addition of the context, but not the removal of vitriolic material about a major political public figure.--Drrll (talk) 19:45, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The contentious material is indeed poorly sourced. The only present source is a short video clip of part of a stand-up comedy monologue hosted on the Fox Nation blog. There is no context, no reporting, no description of why the clip is even posted there. That is far from a "high-quality source" citation required by WP:BLP. You not being OK with the removal of poorly sourced, contentious material from BLPs is noted. Xenophrenic (talk) 01:01, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That's not for us to decide. When properly sourced, this comes a reportable issue that readers or other editors can or will interpret.--Morenooso (talk) 19:33, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Additionally, I have no dog in this. I am a Page Patroller and have this page on Watch. You can see from the article's history, my record. When I saw the edit war begin, I examined the URL and watched the YouTube version. I actually saw the original (but that would be WP:OR. The subject matter is accurately sourced as per my edit which I did to improve the article as per my original post here in this section. --Morenooso (talk) 19:59, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is for us to decide. "Accurately sourced" is not the only requirement of content in a WP:BLP; please do not disregard Wikipedia's other policies. Do you plan on properly sourcing the content (as it stands now, it does not meet the sourcing requirements of WP:BLP)? I am also waiting for the justification of the insertion of one joke (out of thousands) from his comedy routine about a political figure (probably the only joke about a political figure in history). Drrll's apparent hatred for Palin notwithstanding. What is the content insertion intended to convey to the reader? Xenophrenic (talk) 20:02, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * And how often do you hear a major comedian on a non-premium broadcast channel refer to a major political figure as a bitch? If he wants to do that fine, but Lopez can't complain if a large number of his potential audience find it over the line.--Drrll (talk) 20:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Answers: I hear similar remarks all the time. As for a large number of people feeling Lopez is "over the line" on anything, that might be article-worthy if significant and reliably sourced and reported. But there is nothing about that in the content you inserted. You inserted a joke and a punchline with no content about what people think about it. So, is there any reason to keep it? Xenophrenic (talk) 20:26, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Examples, please. Imagine the uproar if he or any other comedian called Hillary Clinton a bitch on TBS.  It is reliably sourced to a Fox News website and the reader can draw their own conclusions without having someone else tell them what to think about it.--Drrll (talk) 20:35, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Inserting reliably sourced content about an "uproar" would be appropriate. Inserting a joke and a punchline, without any indication of relevance at all, is not. So, is there any reason to keep it? Xenophrenic (talk) 21:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't see any either. I've removed the joke and punchline. Xenophrenic (talk) 19:53, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Neutrality
This seems like it is written in a negative way. It randomly points out his various ethnicities, it focuses on his divorce, and it seems to treat him poorly overall.Ryan Vesey (talk) 17:07, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Two typos
There are two spaces missing. One in the top paragraph, "August 10,2011", and the other in the Kirstie Alley section, "vodka.Piggy".

Edit request from Rjkhan, 11 August 2011
However on 11 Aug 2011, Famous comedy show Lopez Tonight is going to end today The News Tribe

Rjkhan (talk) 08:21, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Cancellation is already in the article with a different source. Jnorton7558 (talk) 09:47, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Politics statement
"In an interview with Piers Morgan, Lopez stated that if Sarah Palin ever becomes the President of the United States, he would emigrate to Canada. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/07/26/exp.pmt.george.lopez.palin.cnn?&hpt=hp_c2" This had to be a joke. I doubt George Lopez would actually emigrate to Canada if Palin became president, this has to be an exageration, but the page makes it seem serious. I don't know how to fix something like this, but perhaps someone could explain this to me.  Tom  US  A   00:44, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

 * Agreed. One-liners from a comedian don't merit any mention in the article. He'll say a lot of things about politics especially if they are things frequently mentioned by other comedians.MavsFan28 (talk) 02:49, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Seems the whole section is unneccesary. His reps have said that he was in fact joking when he said he'd run for mayor. (http://deadline.com/2010/12/george-lopez-to-run-for-mayor-of-la-92277/) If he does choose to throw his hat into politics, we'll cross that bridge when it comes. But unless that happens, these one-line jokes from a comedian are not article relevant.MavsFan28 (talk) 04:37, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Eric Estrada
Erik Estrada doesn't shake his hand and Lopez hates him?

I met Erik also at the height of his career, they were filming in Redondo Beach, like pier scene or something, he signed an autographed picture, at the time I was a kid on a school field trip and did the same for all the kids with a big Estrada smile. So maybe Erik didn't like YOU Lopez and then you have the gall to call him basically a homosexual in a hateful way?

Very telling of George's character. Typical of his... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.4.25.196 (talk) 06:43, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from, 26 October 2011
I would like to add this to George Lopez's "Personal Life" section: On October 18, 2011, Lopez's elementary school, San Fernando Elementary School, honored him for his beneficent efforts by naming their auditorium after him. Lopez has ensured through his annual toy giveaway that every child at the school receives a gift during the holidays.

JayBagel (talk) 21:09, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Citation : feed://www.georgelopez.com/comedian-george-lopez-gets-valley-schools-auditorium-named-after-him/

that one is the correct link... ;) mabdul 21:45, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * http://www.georgelopez.com/recording-¡duermete-carajo-read-by-george-lopez/
 * Yes check.svg Done — Bility (talk) 17:24, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 March 2012
goerge LOPEz is a very cool person — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asdfmovies1-4 (talk • contribs) 20:24, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 2 July 2012
I would like people to know what are some things they might not know about them. add more information.

that is why I want to edit this page
 * An edit request is not the proper method for requesting the ability to edit a page. Instead, you could consider creating an account, see our reasons to create an account.  Four days and 10 edits later, you will be able to edit this page. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  15:12, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 December 2012

 * 2013
 * It's not me, it's you.
 * Himself
 * HBO Special
 * HBO Special

72.205.254.215 (talk) 21:55, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Not done, as you have provided no sources. Even if you did, it is rarely a good practice to include future material in a filmography.—Kww(talk) 21:59, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Feuds with Joe Arpaio
George Lopez also has a beef with Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio, due to the fact that Arpaio is known for his outspoken opinions on illegal immigration. In July 2012, Lopez went on a profanity-laced tirade calling Arpaio a fat m*****f***er and ranting "F*** you Sheriff Joe, you f***ing puto!" DPH1110 (talk) 22:14, 4 June 2013 (UTC)DPH1110

 * Without response from the other side, it hardly counts as a feud. He's known for going on rants about people during his specials. This has no significance to be included in the feud section, barring a response from the sheriff. I do suggest that it could be included in the politics section as his views on immigration however. MavsFan28 (talk) 01:50, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 October 2013
George Lopez and Jenifer Lopez has been pronounced brother and sister

Eirb82723 (talk) 20:07, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Stfg (talk) 12:31, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

The Arsenio Hall Show
The article makes no mention of his frequent visits on The Arsenio Hall Show (more than any other stand up comedian) and recent return to the revival of the show. 74.62.92.20 (talk) 02:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2014
Add the 2012 HBO Special: Its Not Me, Its You http://www.hbo.com/comedy/george-lopez-its-not-me-its-you http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2270274/

131.247.250.189 (talk) 18:35, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. And also what you want changed from to what. -- Imagine Wizard (talk · contribs · [//tools.wmflabs.org/supercount/index.php?user=Imagine+Wizard&project=en.wikipedia count]) Iway amway Imagineway Izardway. 19:58, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Radio claim on George Lopez
The article states that "In 1999, Lopez hosted a major morning radio show for Clear Channel Communications in Los Angeles. He was the first Latino to have headlined the keystone morning radio slot on an English-language station in LA — the nation’s top radio market"

This is incorrect. In 1989, Los Angeles Classical outlet KFAC switched formats and became KKBT. The first morning show host was Mexican-American comedian Paul Rodriquez.

Here is an article about the switch and Rodriguez.

Semi-protected edit request on 6 December 2014
GEORGE LOPEZ IS MY MAIN MAN

198.20.4.21 (talk) 17:03, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 23:28, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2015
George Lopez HBO Special It's Not Me, It's You 2012 for stand up section

AJF150 (talk) 03:54, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Amortias (T)(C) 10:06, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Where's Manny Lopez?
The redirect page "Manny Lopez (character)" leads to this page. But nowhere is that character mentioned here. Must that redirect page be deleted? -- Bagoto (talk) 00:31, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * If we assume that the redirect was done in the first place because "Manny Lopez" is connected to him, a better improvement would be to add that material here, with a source. I'm not familiar with the subject. Is "Manny Lopez" a character he does in his act? Willondon (talk) 02:20, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Manny Lopez was his dad in the George Lopez sitcom. Not sure of any other connection or why it would redirect here.MavsFan28 (talk) 01:54, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Feuds section
Is this section really necessary? Nothing really came from any of these as they are just one sided thoughts from him, or one comment from him then a response. Anyone see any of this section as crucial to the article other than maybe the ABC section? (which could be included in the TV section about his show anyway). MavsFan28 (talk) 05:22, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Categories
Can someone please add this article to the following categories:

20th-century American comedians 21st-century American comedians

Thanks 89.242.193.57 (talk) 08:54, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Why is there a People v. Jackson information box in this article?
Is this a joke? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dialecticas (talk • contribs) 20:16, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Why is there no mention of his scandals?
Accused battery and prostitution — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.114.108.98 (talk) 01:22, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Israel-Palestine celebrity list
George Lopez was one of the 700 people to sign a list supporting the Israeli attacks on the occupied Palestinian territory. Informed21 (talk) 05:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

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Ya Kid K

Ya Kid K (born Manuela Barbara Kamosi Moaso Djogi, 26 January 1972) is a Congolese–Belgian hip hop recording artist. She was the rapper for the dance/house act Technotronic. Her sister is Karoline "Leki" Kamosi.

Early life
At the age of 11, Djogi moved to Belgium, later moving to Chicago (where she explored hip-hop, and the emerging sounds of house music), and later moved to Dallas, Texas.

Music career
After moving back to Belgium from the US, Ya Kid K helped form a hip hop label called Fresh Beat Productions. She was part of the dance project Technotronic, which debuted with a major worldwide hit in 1989, "Pump Up the Jam". Although she did not appear in the video, she was finally credited as vocalist on the track on the US reissue of the group's debut album.

Although Ya Kid K wrote the lyrics and sang vocals on "Pump Up the Jam", Technotronic had the fashion model Felly Kilingi perform in the video, without Ya Kid K's consent. The second single "Get Up! (Before the Night Is Over)" was Ya Kid K's debut music video with Technotronic. In 1992, Technotronic and Ya Kid K had a hit with "Move This," another single from 1989's Pump Up the Jam: The Album.

She also lent her voice to Hi Tek 3, a dance project whose only single, "Spin that Wheel", appeared on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles motion picture soundtrack.

While Jo Bogaert hired new singers for Technotronic's third album, Body to Body, Ya Kid K returned after limited success of her own album, One World Nation. This album contained many different musical and, in particular, vocal styles.

In 1991, Ya Kid K appeared on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze: The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack, performing "Awesome (You Are My Hero)", continuing her work with the music of the film franchise. The partnership continued in 1993, when 2 versions of Ya Kid K's "Rockin' over the Beat" appeared on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack.

In 1995, Technotronic re-emerged in the U.S. with Ya Kid K as its front vocalist, again with limited success of the album, Recall. On the track "Are You Ready" she teamed up with Daisy Dee, who already did a cover version of "This Beat is…" with MC B. In 1996, a Ya Kid K single titled "Rock My World" was released. She appeared in June 2000 on Technotronic's single "The Mariachi." In 2002, she released Take a Trip on Semini Records.

In 1997, Ya Kid K also provided fresh vocals for the 2 Skinnee J's cover of "Pump Up the Jam" entitled, "BBQ". She sang "Pump up the gas grill" as the chorus.

In October 2005, Ya Kid K made a guest appearance on Public Warning the debut album of English female rapper Lady Sovereign.

In 2011, she returned with the song "DO UC ME Standing". Ya Kid K also released the song "Comes Love".

In 2014 she released some new tracks and an album called Stalled Constructions.

Personal life
After the single "Rockin' Over the Beat", Ya Kid K had a child with MC Eric who performed the Technotronic hit "This Beat Is Technotronic".

Discography

 * 1992: One World Nation (The Kids Shall Overcome) SBK/EMI
 * 2014: Stalled Constructions (digital download)

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Temple of Great Compassion

The Temple of Great Compassion or Dabei Yuan is a Chan Buddhist temple in Tianjin, China.

Background
The monastery was first built during the Qing dynasty, but has been heavily rebuilt and renovated since and consists now of the West Monastery from 1669 and the East Monastery from 1940 and is the largest and oldest one in the town. The temple covers an area of 10,600 m2 (114,000 ft²). The temple also houses the Tianjin Buddhist Institute, which exhibits quite many ancient statues. The Dabei Buddhist Monastery is made up of two parts: old monastery and new monastery.

Old and new
The old monastery refers to the three great halls in the west yard. The construction of the old monastery was started in the beginning of the Qing dynasty and was renovated in the eighth year of the reign of the Kangxi Emperor in the Qing dynasty. The east yard features the new monasteries. The statue of Sakyamuni oblated in the Daxiong Palace from the east yard was created during the Qing dynasty. The whole Sakyamuni statue is 7 meters high, 6 tons in weight, with 9,999 small Buddhas carved on its lotus throne. Inside the Great Compassion hall is a 3.6 meters high mud statue of the Thousand-hand Kwan-yin is oblated.

Xuanzang
The monastery was once famous for holding a skull relic of Xuanzang who died in 664, however, the relic was presented to India in 1956 when it was taken to Nalanda - allegedly by the Dalai Lama - and presented to India. The relic is now in the Patna museum. And from then on, the Great Compassion monastery uses the image of the Xuanzang master instead of his spirit bones for worshiping the Buddha. There are memorials for the Buddhist monks Xuanzang and Hong Yi in the east yard, while the west yard has become an office for the Cultural Relic Palace, Abbot Palace and Chinese Buddhism Association Tianjin Branch. In the Cultural Relic Palace of the west yard, there are many collections from every dynasties since the Wei and Jin period including hundreds of Buddha statues which are made of various materials like bronze, iron, stone and wood.

Cultural value
The cultural value of the temple concentrates on its mural art and its central status of local culture.

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Gerry Altobello

Gerry Altobello is a former city councillor in Toronto, Ontario, Canada who now works as a justice of the peace. He represented Scarborough Southwest.

Altobello first entered politics in 1985 when he was elected to the council of Scarborough to represent Ward 2, defeating more left-leaning candidate Barry Boyle. At 27, he was the youngest member on the council. He was re-elected with ease in 1988, but in 1991 he faced a fierce election battle against businessman Danny Lovatsis. Nevertheless, he was re-elected.

He opposed the amalgamation of Scarborough, Toronto, and four other municipalities in 1997, but after it occurred he ran for a seat on Toronto city council in Ward 13. The ward structure at the time was such that the two candidates who received the most votes were elected in each riding. He was elected along with Brian Ashton. Fellow Scarborough city councillor Fred Johnson came in third. He has chaired the Planning and Transportation Committee. A centrist, he was aligned with the Liberal Party.

On June 9, 2006, he was appointed a justice of the peace by the Attorney General of Ontario Michael Bryant, effective June 21, 2006. On June 14, 2006, he resigned as a councillor. As a justice of the peace, he presided over the trial of a homeowner accused of renting out the house for short-term tenants.

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Ell

An ell (from Proto-Germanic *alinō, cognate with Latin ulna) is a northwestern European unit of measurement, originally understood as a cubit (the combined length of the forearm and extended hand). The word literally means "arm", and survives in the form of the modern English word "elbow" (arm-bend). Later usage through the 19th century refers to several longer units, some of which are thought to derive from a "double ell".

An ell-wand or ellwand was a rod of length one ell used for official measurement. Edward I of England required that every town have one. In Scotland, the Belt of Orion was called "the King's Ellwand". An iron ellwand is preserved in the entrance to Stånga Church on the Swedish island of Gotland, indicating the role that rural churches had in disseminating uniform measures.

Several national forms existed, with different lengths, including the Scottish ell (≈37 in), the Flemish ell [el] (≈27 in), the French ell [aune] (≈54 in), the Polish ell (≈31 in), the Danish alen (24 Danish inches or 2 Danish fod: 62.7708 cm), the Swedish aln (2 Swedish fot 59.38 cm) and the German ell [Elle] of different lengths in Frankfurt (54.7 cm), Cologne, Leipzig (Saxony) or Hamburg.

Select customs were observed by English importers of Dutch textiles; although all cloths were bought by the Flemish ell, linen was sold by the English ell, but tapestry was sold by the Flemish ell.

The Viking ell was the measure from the elbow to the tip of the middle finger, about 18 in. The Viking or primitive ell was used in Iceland up to the 13th century. By the 13th century, a law set the "stika" as equal to 2 ells which was the English ell of the time.

England
In England, the ell was usually exactly 45 in, or a yard and a quarter. It was mainly used in the tailoring business but is now obsolete. Although the exact length was never defined in English law, standards were kept; the brass ell examined at the Exchequer by Graham in the 1740s had been in use "since the time of Queen Elizabeth".

Other English measures called an ell include the "yard and handful", or 40 in. ell, abolished in 1439; the yard and inch, or 37 in. ell (a cloth measure), abolished after 1553 and known later as the Scotch ell＝37·06; and the cloth ell of 45 in., used until 1600. See yard for details.

Scots
The Scottish ell (slat Albannach) is approximately 37 in. The Scottish ell was standardised in 1661, with the exemplar to be kept in the custody of Edinburgh. It comes from Middle English elle.

It was used in the popular expression "Gie 'im an inch, an he'll tak an ell" (equivalent to "Give him an inch and he'll take a mile" or "... he'll take a yard", and closely similar to the English proverb "Give him an inch and he'll take an ell", first published as "For when I gave you an inch, you tooke an ell" by John Heywood in 1546.

The Ell Shop (1757) in Dunkeld, Perth and Kinross (National Trust for Scotland), is so called from the 18th-century iron ell-stick attached to one corner, once used to measure cloth and other commodities in the adjacent market-place. The shaft of the 17th-century Kincardine mercat cross stands in the square of Fettercairn, and is notched to show the measurements of an ell.

Scottish measures were made obsolete, and English measurements made standard in Scotland, by an Act of Parliament, the Weights and Measures Act 1824.

Other
Similar measures include:
 * Netherlands: el, 1 metre (Old ell＝27.08 inches)
 * Jersey: ell, 4 feet
 * N. Borneo: ella, 1 yard
 * Switzerland: elle, 0.6561 yard
 * Ottoman Turkey: Arşın, ~69 cm

In literature
Ells are used for measuring the length of rope in J. R. R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings. Since Sam declares that 30 elles are "about" 18 fathoms (108 feet), he seems to be using the 45-inch English ell, which would work out to 112 feet.

In the epic poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, the Green Knight's axe-head was an ell (45 inches) wide.

Ells were also used in the medieval French play The Farce of Master Pathelin to measure the size of the clothing Pierre Pathelin bought.

Halldór Laxness described Örvar-Oddr as twelve Danish ells tall in Independent People, Part II, "Of the World".

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Barbara Mertz

Barbara Louise Mertz (September 29, 1927 – August 8, 2013) was an American author who wrote under her own name as well as under the pseudonyms Elizabeth Peters and Barbara Michaels. In 1952, she received a PhD in Egyptology from the University of Chicago. She was best known for her mystery and suspense novels, including the Amelia Peabody book series.

In the 1960s, Mertz authored two books on ancient Egypt: Temples, Tombs, and Hieroglyphs, a popular history of ancient Egypt; and Red Land, Black Land, which explores daily life in ancient Egypt. Both have remained in print ever since, and revised editions were released in 2007 and 2008, respectively.

Biography
Barbara Mertz was born on September 29, 1927, in Canton, Illinois. She graduated from the University of Chicago with a bachelor's degree in 1947, a master's degree in 1950, and a PhD in Egyptology in 1952, having studied with John A. Wilson. She authored two books on ancient Egypt, Temples, Tombs, and Hieroglyphs (1964; rev. ed. 2007) and Red Land, Black Land (1966; rev. ed. 2008) (both of which have been continuously in print since first publication), but primarily wrote mystery and suspense novels. She became a published writer in 1964. She was married to Richard Mertz for 19 years (1950–1969); the marriage ended in divorce. They had two children, Peter and Elizabeth Mertz.

Under the name Barbara Michaels, she wrote primarily gothic and supernatural thrillers. Her publisher chose that pseudonym since Mertz had already published one non-fiction book on ancient Egypt, and the publisher did not want Mertz's novels to be confused with her academic work. Under the pseudonym Elizabeth Peters, Mertz published mysteries, including her Amelia Peabody historical mystery series, using a nom de plume drawn from the names of her two children.

She was member of the Editorial Advisory Board of KMT, ("A Modern Journal of Ancient Egypt"), Egypt Exploration Society, and the James Henry Breasted Circle of the University of Chicago Oriental Institute.

Mertz was also a feminist, a topic that frequently arose in her fiction, and in her professional life. Mertz founded "Malice Domestic", a Washington-based organization for women mystery writers, "because she thought men were getting all the prizes." She also started a scholarship for women writers at Hood College.

Mertz died at her home in Maryland on August 8, 2013. Her papers are held at the Lilly Library, at Indiana University in Bloomington, Indiana.

Awards
Mertz received a number of award wins and nominations from the mystery community. Her first recognition came when Trojan Gold was nominated for the 1988 Anthony Award in the "Best Novel" category; the following year, Naked Once More won the 1989 Agatha Award in the same category. Following this Mertz earned a series of Agatha Award "Best Novel" nominations, including The Last Camel Died at Noon in 1991; The Snake, the Crocodile, and the Dog in 1992; Night Train to Memphis in 1994; Seeing a Large Cat in 1997; The Ape Who Guards the Balance in 1998; and He Shall Thunder in the Sky in 2000 which also received an Anthony Award "Best Novel" nomination in 2001. Mertz received a final Agatha Award nomination for "Best Novel" in 2002 for The Golden One and won the "Best Non-fiction Work" the following year for Amelia Peabody's Egypt: A Compendium, which also received an Edgar Award nomination in 2004 in the "Best Critical / Biographical Work" category.

Mertz was also the recipient of a number of grandmaster and lifetime achievement awards, including being named Grandmaster at the Anthony Awards in 1986 and Grandmaster by the Mystery Writers of America in 1998; in 2003, she received a Lifetime Achievement Award at the Malice Domestic Convention. In 2012 she was honored with the first Amelia Peabody Award at the Malice Domestic Convention; the award was named after the leading character in her long-running series.

Amelia Peabody
This series contains 20 books; the most recent and last, The Painted Queen, was published in July 2017 after being completed by Joan Hess. The heroine and her husband Radcliffe Emerson are Egyptologists, while their only biological son Walter (always known as Ramses) is a specialist in ancient Near Eastern languages. In addition to Ramses, the family includes two other members whom Amelia regards as her children: Nefret Forth (3 years older than Ramses) and Sennia (ca. 25 years younger). The stories all relate to the "Golden Age" of Egyptology and nearly all are set in Egypt, with the excavations providing the backdrop for the mystery/adventure plots.

The timeline begins in the 1880s with Amelia's decision to see the world as an unexpectedly wealthy feminist spinster, and ends with the discovery of Tutankhamun's tomb in late 1922. (Peters had planned additional books in the series to "fill in the blanks" in the chronology, as she did with River: set in 1910, though it was written after other books that are set later.)

 * 1)  Covers the 1884–85 Season.
 * 2)  Covers the 1892–93 season.
 * 3)  Covers the 1894–95 season.
 * 4)  Covers the 1895–96 season.
 * 5)  Covers Summer 1896.
 * 6)  Covers the 1897–98 season.
 * 7)  Covers the 1898–99 season.
 * 8)  Covers the 1899–1900 season.
 * 9)  Covers the 1903–04 season.
 * 10)  Covers the 1906–07 season.
 * 11)  Covers the 1911–12 season.
 * 12)  Covers the 1914–15 season.
 * 13)  Covers the 1915–16 season.
 * 14)  Covers the 1916–17 season.
 * 15)  Covers the 1919–20 season.
 * 16)  Covers the 1907–08 season.
 * 17)  Covers the 1922 season
 * 18)  Covers the 1922–23 season.
 * 19)   Covers the 1909–1910 season in Palestine.
 * 20)   Covers the 1912–1913 season; manuscript completed by Joan Hess following Mertz' death

Additionally: Amelia Peabody's Egypt: A Compendium – (with Kristen Whitbread) Published October 2003

Vicky Bliss
The Vicky Bliss novels follow the adventures of an American professor of art history, who keeps getting involved in international crime, and her love interest, a charming art thief known as Sir John Smythe. Another Peters novel, The Camelot Caper (1969) (also published as Her Cousin John), while not technically a Vicky Bliss story, features Smythe. The novels can be enjoyed in any order, but the stories are highly sequential in nature and are probably better appreciated if read in order of publication.

 * 1) The Camelot Caper (1969) (alternate title: Her Cousin John)
 * 2) Borrower of the Night (1973)
 * 3) Street of the Five Moons (1978)
 * 4) Silhouette in Scarlet (1983)
 * 5) Trojan Gold (1987)
 * 6) Night Train to Memphis (1994)
 * 7) The Laughter of Dead Kings (2008)

This series and the Amelia Peabody series are slightly related: a fictional tomb discovered by Amelia Peabody and her husband plays an important role in Night Train to Memphis, and in The Laughter of Dead Kings it is revealed that John Smythe is related to the Emersons.

Jacqueline Kirby
In this series, Jacqueline Kirby is a middle-aged librarian with a very large purse and a knack for solving mysteries. Initially an unwilling detective, and not the apparent protagonist, in the first book (The Seventh Sinner), Kirby's quirkiness and middle-aged romantic success generated a following and led to sequels. The series continued with The Murders of Richard III and Die For Love, each of which featured Jacqueline Kirby plumbing a mystery arising out of a subculture (Ricardians and romance novelists). In Die for Love, Kirby began writing a romance novel, and in Naked Once More, the fourth and final book of the series, has proven to be quite successful in that career. In Naked Once More, Jacqueline is commissioned to write a sequel to a "famous" prehistoric romance novel, whose author died under mysterious circumstances. In each of the books, Kirby solves a mystery, attracts one or more suitors, but remains alluringly aloof and independent.
 * 1) The Seventh Sinner (1972)
 * 2) The Murders of Richard III (1974)
 * 3) Die for Love (1984)
 * 4) Naked Once More (1989)

Other fiction
Source:

 * The Jackal's Head (1968)
 * The Dead Sea Cipher (1970)
 * The Night of Four Hundred Rabbits (1971)
 * Legend in Green Velvet (1976)
 * Devil-May-Care (1977)
 * Summer of the Dragon (1979)
 * The Love Talker (1980)
 * The Copenhagen Connection (1982)

Georgetown trilogy

 * 1) Ammie Come Home (1968) – Adapted and made into the made-for TV movie, The House That Would Not Die, starring Barbara Stanwyck and Richard Egan.
 * 2) Shattered Silk (1986)
 * 3) Stitches in Time (1995)

Someone in the House series

 * 1) Black Rainbow (1982)
 * 2) Someone in the House (1981)

Stand-alone novels

 * The Master of Blacktower (1966)
 * Sons of the Wolf (1967) (alternate title: Mystery on the Moors)
 * Prince of Darkness (1969)
 * The Dark on the Other Side (1970)
 * The Crying Child (1971) – Adapted into a film of the same name starring Mariel Hemingway in 1996
 * Greygallows (1972)
 * Witch (1973)
 * House of Many Shadows (1974)
 * The Sea King's Daughter (1975)
 * Patriot's Dream (1976)
 * Wings of the Falcon (1977)
 * Wait for What Will Come (1978)
 * The Walker in Shadows (1979)
 * The Wizard's Daughter (1980)
 * Here I Stay (1983)
 * The Grey Beginning (1984)
 * Be Buried in the Rain (1985)
 * Search the Shadows (1987)
 * Smoke and Mirrors (1989)
 * "The Runaway" (ss) Sisters in Crime, ed. Marilyn Wallace, (1989)
 * Into the Darkness (1990)
 * Vanish with the Rose (1992)
 * Houses of Stone (1993)
 * The Dancing Floor (1997)
 * Other Worlds (1999)

Nonfiction books

 * Temples, Tombs, and Hieroglyphs (1964; rev. ed. 2007)
 * Red Land, Black Land (1966; rev. ed. 2008)
 * Two Thousand Years in Rome (with Richard Mertz) (1968)

title: Barbara Mertz