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Copyedit notices
Hi, i noticed that whenever i put up a copyedit or clean up notice on one of the articles you contributed you "deleted" everything. Please understand that such notices are not meant to be offensive towards the writer(s) of the article. They merely call for attention from other users to improve the article collectively, whether content-wise or language-wise.

i personally think the article on Tea Classics is very comprehensive. However, it does not conform to Wikipedia standards and is rather messy to read. That was why i put up the wikify and clean up notices.

As for Wang Tao, there were many grammatical and spelling errors. i didn't have time to copyedit the article myself, which was why i put up the copyedit notice to call for attention from many Wikipedians out there who had the time and expertise (some Wikipedians are dedicated to copyediting articles).

i hope this clears things up a little. --Plastictv 29 June 2005 01:19 (UTC)

Chop Suey
Hi, I like your contribs, but I've read the website references you added. The stories contradict each other, and some do not attribute the origins of Chop Suey to the Chinese diplomat. Please, let us address the conflict here: Talk:Chop_suey. Also, I've added a few points which seem to discredit the story of the diplomat. Thanks--Muchosucko 02:48, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

The most important point, dont forget, is Chop Suey was Chinese Restaurant invention, not Amenian as you suggested Gisling 02:51, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm afraid, you can't simply muscle through your point. We must debate it out. Again, I've added an exhaustive reason for my reversions. Please don't insult me by simply ignoring them. I have not ignored your contribs, please don't ignore mine.--Muchosucko 02:53, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Please stop this, I have tried very hard to explain why I think these edits are unacceptable and corrupt the integrity of the article. Please responD to my concerns on the talk page. I have paid attention to every single one of your references and they simply contradict each other. Please let us begin a debate instead of a revert war. Please, say something on the talk page. Again Wiki must be a collaboration, not a brute force attempt. Thanks. --Muchosucko 02:57, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

The earlist restaurant serving Chop Suey was Hong Far Low(meaning Red Flower Restaurant) in Boston in 1880's. There is a Hong Far Low Chop Suey menu on display at the "Chinese restaurant in America" Exhibition in Museum of Chinese in the Americas in New York. This 125 years old Chop Suey menu clearly proves beyong any doubt that Chop Suey was Chinese restaurant invention. You have absolute no evidence whatsovever to prove otherwise. Gisling 02:53, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying. Please go to Talk:Chop suey for my response.--Muchosucko 03:11, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Gisling, Please stop ignoring my repeated explainations of my reversions. I've spent a lot of time reading and thinking about what you've written. You have simply ignored my hard work and analysis of your writing. I do not ignore your contributions. Indeed, I spend a lot of time researching them. Please respond to my concerns here. I have now written pages and pages of reasons why I think your contributions do not help the article. Please respond. Please. Please go to Talk:Chop suey --Muchosucko 15:04, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Gisling, it is customary to hammer these things out on the talk page. Agian, I have worked hard on the reasons why I removed some of what you added. This is not personal. I truly think these things hurt the article. Please stop ignoring what I have written. I truly believe Wiki is collaborative, and that we must compromise and discuss. Please stop bluntly reverting. Please. My reasons are listed in detail here talk:chop suey--Muchosucko 15:30, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Gisling, I've noticed you keep adding things to the article. It is customary to discuss controversial edits on the Talk page, reach a consensus, and then add a mutually agreed upon version onto the front page. This is a collaboration. Please understand my arguments on the talk page, and let us leave the main page as it was before your additions. Thanks. Please argue it out on the talk page, not the article page. Thanks. talk:chop suey --Muchosucko 15:41, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Gisling, please stop muscling through your additions. Instead, it is customary to go to talk:chop suey  and discuss these things. You do not strenghten your argument by reverting here. Instead, you might be best served by explaining your additions with concise arguments. I have continually replied to your contributions on the talk page. Please do the same for mine. Please discuss here talk:chop suey--Muchosucko 15:55, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Gisling, I don't think you help your argument by doing this.--Muchosucko 16:07, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Gisling, You damage your position by doing this, You are much better off explaining in a calm, collected way on the talk page as I have. You won't convince me your contributions work by aggressively adding them.  --Muchosucko 16:14, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

chop suey revert war
Hi. Please see 3RR, the 3-revert rule, which you have breached several times now on chop suey. Morwen - Talk 16:19, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Lu Guimong
Hello, I've moved the page to Lu Guimeng (since the spelling is faulty), so could u delete the Lu Guimong page? thanks :-D--K.C. Tang 14:36, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Tea Classics
Hi Gisling-

I wanted to give you a heads up about the change I made on Tea Classics. I don't think that the mythology of Shen Nong is authoratative as a source of tea, just as he is not the authoritative source of animal husbandry. If you have any concerns about this, let's work them out them out together on the Talk:Tea Classics. Thanks S.N. Hillbrand 02:13, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Wikimedia Canada
I don't think it is a good idea to establish a Wikimedia Canada chapter, it only serves to fragmentize  en:wikipedia. Currently there is only one English language en:wikipedia with nearly one million entries. There are many English speaking countries, England, USA, New Zealand, Australia, Singapore, Canada etc. There is no  US:Wikipedia nor  Au:wikipedia why need a CA:wikipedia ??

One can find all about Canada in en:wikipedia. If you put Canadian related articles in ca:wikepedia, the net result will be far less people reading these article. Gisling 19:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm afraid you're slightly mistaken about Wikimedia Canada's (WMC) purpose. These are a few points about WMC's planned operations.
 * In the last donation drive, CDN$11,473.05 was donated by our nation. None of that was tax-deductable, as it was donated to an American charity. People donating within Canada will now be able to get tax receipts.
 * We'll be able to better organize programs to encourage the development of Wikipedia/Wikisource/Wiktionary in native languages that are loosing ground in an Anglocentric world.
 * We'll organize meetups, to encourage the community aspect of the project.
 * It becomes easier to plan representation at local events or conferences.
 * Increased voice on matters presented to the board.
 * Start projects to encourage new Canadian content. Encourage local historical groups, museums, town councils, boards of trade to add local info.
 * Within the projects, increase Canadian content in internationally relevant articles.
 * Occasionally take up moderate political causes that benefit the Wikimedia Foundation, such as loosening Crown copyright.
 * While we will have a website for WMC, it will only be to organize these activities, not create a seperate resource. Also, we are out to promote Canada not only in English Wikimedia projects, but also French, and to a lesser extent native languages or any other language. --  user:zanimum

I was thinking the same thing, I was just made a donation to WM but I really would like to be able to deduct it. I'd be in favour of a Canadian Chapter. Tawker 03:56, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

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Image:Ta Keo temple.jpg
Hi Gisling. You nominated this image for deletion as a copyvio from flickr. I have removed the deletion tag, because the flickr page states that the image has been released under the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike License v. 2.0, so it can be used on Wikipedia. JPD (talk) 16:36, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Millennium bandstand
Hi Gisling, sorry to point out another typo: it should be Millennium with two 'n's. I believe even Mazda makes this mistake! Nice photo though! Regards. Jpaulm 14:39, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

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Finch Bus Terminal
I noticed you moved Finch Bus Terminal by adding GO to the name of the article. Because you have made no other changes to related articles or templates, I consider this frivolous and have moved it back. Although there might be some validity to making this move, the terminal is one of a group which all have the same naming convention. Further disambiguation is not necessary as the nearby subway station is suffixed with TTC. If you feel that the GO Bus Terminals shoud be renamed please start a discussion at the Talk:GO Transit page; where you will see that there has already been a lot of work put into naming GO Stations. YOU must be willing to edit ALL related articles and redirects. If you can't do the time; don't do the crime. -Secondarywaltz (talk) 16:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

ooooops
The Indonesian Project EN - prides itself on being able to spot a dubious reference from a mile off as we are flooded with edits without a cite or ref in sight - however your refs are close to problematic - they are not possibly WP:V or any sign of being WP:RS as you are applying them :) - so there might need to be some form of negotiation over your edits to Surabaya and Pekalongan - as they stand they produce more questions than answers SatuSuro 13:05, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you - however there re still other items we might have to check later - please note that the WP EN Indonesia project has large amounts of uncited and very dubious edits - any help that you can provide in offering fully WP:V WP:RS that help article with WP:N are appreciated - thanks SatuSuro 13:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

One small problem - the Indonesian project was almost a 1421/1434 free zone until your edits for Surabaya - dont be suprised if other editors revert your edits with some fervour and passion SatuSuro 13:31, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I quoted Ma Huan not Menzies. Ma Huan's book is the most authentic book about Zheng He's voyage, it was fully translated into English. It was a fact of history, that many Chinese travellers from Tang dynasty thru Ming dynasty visited Indonesia--Gisling (talk) 13:38, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Fact in relation to any history of indonesia prior to various dates is one whole separate issue - I am not debating chinese visits - why there is a whole school of thought that freaks out xenophobic javanese muslims that their islamic origins were via chinese origins - as long as your are aware that the menzies issue is not one that we want in the indonesian project just yet :) - my apologies for misinterpreting your edit - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Java might give you an idea of some of the issues - that i have responded to rightly or wrongly - there are some javanese sources for that suprisingly enough SatuSuro 13:47, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Photo on Tea House page
Apologies if this isn't the right place to ask but the photo here: looks fantastic. We are planning on visiting Nanjing and wondered where this tea room was exactly? (and if you've been inside how good it was?). Thanks very much. btw you have taken many amazing photos :-) Dave Davrosuk (talk) 19:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Dave, the tea house was in Nanjing presidential palace, very nice place with large garden, and historic museums, a must see for any visitor to Nanjing. They served Longjing tea, Biluochun tea, in this tea house beside a pond, quite nice place. Regards Gisling (talk) 02:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC).

Thanks ever so much for that. Much appreciated! :-) Dave Davrosuk (talk) 14:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Hey Gisling, how's it going.

I would ask that, with any new material that you add to Architecture of the Song Dynasty, you should always cite the sources you use. Especially when creating whole new sections. It's impossible for me or others to determine where you got this information (a book? website? article? journal? database? etc.) Please consider, since it is a GA (Good Article).-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 02:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks! Although I'd like it if you'd have something to say here in response. Not a word? Ok. Take care.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 02:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

-- I responded, but unfortunately, but when I hit the save key, I got "edit conflict" I backed up and lost the message was gone

You probably refers to the paragraph about Song city and Palace. I have the two Song dynasty souces at hand, 1)孟元老 东京梦华录 2) 吴自牧  梦梁录. As far as I known, there is no English translation of both (There is a recent Japanese translation of 1).

Stephen West wrote an essay" Interpretation of a Dream", it was about 1), I have not access to this essay

-Gisling (talk) 09:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

 * Hello. I can relate; I hate it when a bunch of work is simply lost and cannot be retrieved. Very frustrating. Those sources are fine. Keep doing great work! And adding great pictures as well. Cheers.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 18:11, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

--Thanks Gisling (talk) 18:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Chop suey
Hi, you reverted my recent edit to chop suey, in which I removed incidental mentions to chop suey from the 'in literature' section. Could you please discuss this on Talk:Chop suey? Thanks, --macrakis (talk) 19:35, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Decimal
Hi Gisling, I agree with your comment at Decimal. However, I suggest that, instead of replacing the Indian section, you write a separate Chinese section. Rather than making "priority" claims, the most objective procedure would be to provide specific dates. The reader should be intelligent enough to figure out for himself who was first. Tkuvho (talk) 16:31, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

When I have time, I shall write up on it, citing facts from ancient works and archeological evidence. On the other hand, I am also very much eager to learn about what important evidences supporting Indian origin ? This question was raised more than one hundred years ago by Indian mathematician  G.R. Kaye, who suspected Hindu Arabic decimal had foreign origin, afterh him this question was raised again and again by other researchers, but was never satisfactory answered, but simply asserted--Gisling (talk) 00:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC).
 * I agree that 'who is first" is not meaningful, however asize from this, the topic of cultural exchange is also of interest in itself.

Suan shu shu
Hi, Are you familiar with Dauben's work on Suan shu shu? Does it shed any light in the issue of decimals and positional decimals? Tkuvho (talk) 10:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

History of Chinese mathematics. I shall take a close look at it--Gisling (talk) 10:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC).
 * I have a complete Chinese text of the Shuan Shu Shu, and detailed reseach about it, it is in Appendix volume of Wu Wenjun ed Grand Series of

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Principles of Hindu Reckoning
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The Nine Chapters on the Mathematical Art
I noticed you added to the Accessibility part in "The Nine Chapters on the Mathematical Art" a reference to a translation by F. Cajori, "Abridged English translation: F. Cajori: Arithmatic in Nine Sections, 1893."

I'm wondering where you got this information as I am looking for this translation but have been unable to locate it.

Thanks in Advance,

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Speedy deletion nomination of Jigu Suanjing

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 * Nonsense !!! This article contains more information than any thing you can find in entile English language literatue ! --Gisling (talk) 14:19, 31 December 2010 (UTC).

TeX formatting

 * $$x^3 $$+$$\frac{5}{2}Dx^2+2D^2x$$=$$\frac{P^2}{2D}$$-$$\frac{D^2}{2}$$

The formatting above is weird. I changed it to this:
 * $$x^3 +\frac{5}{2}Dx^2+2D^2x=\frac{P^2}{2D}-\frac{D^2}{2}$$
 * $$x^3 +\frac{5}{2}Dx^2+2D^2x=\frac{P^2}{2D}-\frac{D^2}{2}$$

TeX was designed to follow math typesetting conventions in the appropriate context. Michael Hardy (talk) 17:56, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I am not very familiar with this type of formatting, often cannot remember the syntax --Gisling (talk) 00:36, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

tea classic image
the image you are putting on the article is the same that is there already,icetea8 (talk) 08:45, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit summaries on Equal Temperament
Hi, I noticed you've been doing some extensive work on the Equal Temperament page. The edits look great to me, but since you have so many edits back-to-back, adding a few words on each edit summary would really help other users to get up to speed on what's been changing on the article. That's just a polite request, edit summaries are entirely optional. Anyway, thanks for the constructive edits! —Mu Mind (talk) 11:13, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reminding me--Gisling (talk) 17:43, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Please refrain from using unreliable and inaccessible sources, per WP:RS.--Galassi (talk) 12:53, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Architecture of the Song Dynasty
Hi there. In December of 2008 you added to the article Architecture of the Song Dynasty the source "Li Jie/ Liang Sicheng p46". NickDupree and I are trying to get that article relisted for GA, but we can't find that book. If you could give us the title and ISBN of the source you used, we would be able to get everything in Harvard citations, which is the gold standard on Wikipedia. We also have to get rid of the 'ibid' citations, and replace them with full detail citations, so having someone around who wrote the article and knows it better than we do would be ideal.

The full list of four things needed to get the article to GA status is at Talk:Architecture of the Song Dynasty if you're interested. It includes two cn tags and a section that needs work, as well as the citation rework and a copyedit.

Please contact me, even if you can't help, if only so I know how best to proceed.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  05:53, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

P.S. When this regains GA, the Song Dynasty regains Featured Topic status.
 * Sorry to respond late, I don't come to en:wiki often.

The Li Jie/Liang Sicheng p46 I refered to is

梁思成  营造法式注释  ， 梁思成全集 第七卷 中国建筑出版社 ISBN 7-112-04431-6. This 500+ pages work covers the whole vol 7 of Complete Works of Liang Sicheng, it is the most authentic section by section annotation( not translation) of  Li Jie's Yingzao Fashi, a must read reference to any one seriously interested in Yingzao Fashi. I have Liang edtion, Tao edition and Siku Quanshu edition of Yingzao Fashi in my library--Gisling (talk) 04:46, 15 November 2011 (UTC).

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war  according to the reverts you have made on Decimal. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively. In particular, the three-revert rule states that: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. You're far past the 3RR line at the moment, but I'm giving you one last chance to back off and stop the edit warring and insults. SarekOfVulcan (talk)  19:17, 23 June 2011 (UTC) for long period of time until User:Gun Powder Ma shows up, by massive deletion of other people's contribution without prior discussion. --Gisling (talk) 19:24, 23 June 2011 (UTC).
 * 1) Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
 * I believe the article Decimal should be put under temporary protection, to prevent disruptive editing. This article was quite stable
 * You have been reverting against four users, demonstrating an evident failure to understand the fundamental difference between a decimal and a positional system. You even do not realize that traditional Chinese numerals are non-positional, even though this is self-evident. So, again, how can one-digit characters like 十 (10), 百 (100) and 千 (1000) be positional? Gun Powder Ma (talk) 20:30, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

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Chop suey
Gisling, you did a blanket revert of my edits. If you look carefully, you see that I did not bulk-delete Asugar2's contributions. I removed the (massive) redundancies and the poorly-sourced and wordy material, and summarized his drunken-miner story. Much of what he added was not specific to chop suey, but talked about Chinese-American cuisine in general. And it was all written in very poor English. Could you please restore my edits? Thanks, --Macrakis (talk) 14:06, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

 * Actually, User:Future Perfect at Sunrise already undid them, because they were copyright violations. I don't know how xe came to that conclusion for sure, but it does seem likely to me because the tone of that writing is very much like a travel book or blog, and thus I would not be surprised to find it came from elsewhere.  As a side note, Gisling, it's not actually true that we can't do "bulk deletions".  When someone adds new information to an article, and others question it, they are not required to tag it first and wait for some indefinite time for the person to return and clean it up.  They can do so, if they believe the basic info is good and worth keeping, but that massive addition was completely wrong for the article, and, even if it weren't a copy-vio, would require so much massive changes that it's not worth keeping and cleaning up. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:07, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

 * Searching for a few sentence fragments turned up a couple of blogs - the original editor lifted entire paragraphs from them verbatim, which is obviously inappropriate. --McGeddon (talk) 12:58, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you re-add that information, I will request that you be blocked for intentional, repeated copyright violations. You have to understand--you cannot just copy and paste information from other sites on to Wikipedia, as that has very serious negative consequences for the organization. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:29, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I gave you a couple of plagiarised links above - a third blog is at crazyhorsesghost.hubpages.com/hub/Eat-Drink-And-Be-Merry (which I can't link to directly because the domain is blacklisted). User:Asugar2 seems to have just lifted these paragraphs with only minor changes to their framing (such as changing "I spent the weekend reading my friend Jenny Lee’s new book" to "In Jenny Lee’s new book"). These blog entries may well lead to some fine, reliable sources, but we shouldn't be copy-and-pasting these bloggers' exact words without their permission. --McGeddon (talk) 18:16, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

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Your aparently arbitrary reverts of other editors (diff, diff) must also stop. -- The Anome (talk) 23:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

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Image warring
There's now a three way edit war over the images in the article. It would have been one thing if this all happened before the article became a GA, and I invited you to participate in that process (you never responded), but now that it's a GA, we need stability. I'm just going to revert everything that happened today and start a new thread, where the three of us can discuss any image issues, then make one big change once everything is decided. Does that work?  S ven M anguard  Wha?  04:07, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

 * We cannot permit factual error in the name of stability.
 * Bring the errors up on the talk page. We can sort it out quickly there, but we really need to talk it out, instead of just reverting one another.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  08:11, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

There are two issues here: 1) what is strictly Song dynasty architecture ? Should this article include Liao dynasty or Jin dynasty architecture as well ? IMO, we should not. Also, if a pagoda was built in Song dynasty, then renovated at later dynasties, it is a Song tower, on the other hand if completely rebuilt after Song dynasty, it should NOT be be classified as a Song dynasty tower.
 * No, it should not contain Liao or Jin architecture, those are different dynasties, and would, in a perfect world, have separate articles. Going by the other articles in the series, XXXX of the Song Dynasty articles only cover what happened during the Song Dynasty, in areas controlled by the Song Dynasty.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  08:10, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

2)Criteria of photograph to include in GA or featured article IMO, photograph should at least >2000 x 2000, that is the criteria for selection of "featured image". IMO, it is important to let people see the fine details of architecture, the brickworks, the decor etc, not just an "artful" but fuzzy picture without detail. Wiki is not photography salon--Gisling (talk) 04:27, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * There is absolutely no criteria for image size in articles, and for good reason. We use the best images available, and while size is one factor, it's not the only factor. Competition and especially in this case color factor in. I haven't been to the pagoda, so I'll have to trust you on this, but is the pagoda the iron color in the original photo, or is it the brownish color in your photo? I liked the first image primarily because the tower, in that image, looks like it's made of iron.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  08:10, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Gisling, I am from Hong Kong Institute of Architects (HKIA). And we are interested to use two images for an non-profit project “Architecture in Hong Kong: Teaching Kit for the Appreciation of Architecture in Secondary School Curriculum”. 北京故宫旋子彩画 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Decorative_color_painting.JPG 普陀宗乘之庙 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Putuo_Zongcheng_Temple.jpg

Please reply to confirm the copyright ownership of the two photos and we want to seek for your endorsement for us to use it freely. This involves legal issues and I am looking forward to your reply.

Thanks a lot, Casey caseyhon@hku.hk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Casff (talk • contribs) 02:37, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

 * Casey as long as the photos was re published under GFDL license see, it is ok--Gisling (talk) 09:39, 7 July 2012 (UTC).

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Hello, I wish to upload to Wikipedia this extraordinary picture of crystallized soy sauce. Would you be so kind to help me write to the rights owner? THNKS! Shoshie8 (talk) 15:23, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

 * You cannot upload picture from the web to wikipedia, it is copy right violation -Gisling (talk) 00:15, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

 * I know. Just hoped for a second it might be possible to get permission :( Shoshie8 (talk) 08:10, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

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Hello Gisling, I removed some equations and associated animations you added to Korteweg–de Vries equation, since I cannot find these (in several cases singular) solutions in the reference you provided: Graham W.Griffiths & William E.Schiesser, Traveling Wave Analysis of Partial Differential Equations, pp. 391-404. Note that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and its material is to be backed up by reliable secondary sources. It is not meant for original research, for which there are other publication media. Best regards and happy editing, Crowsnest (talk) 12:39, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Boussinesq type equation into Boussinesq approximation (water waves)
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Fujita–Storm equation
I am concerned about the references for the article Fujita–Storm equation which you created. Please comment at the article talk page. Deltahedron (talk) 11:55, 5 May 2014 (UTC) Having looked further, I see that you have placed exactly the same list of books as references for Gibbons-Tsarev equation, Fujita–Storm equation, Dodd-Bullough-Mikhailov equation, Tzitzeica equation and Estevez-Mansfield-Clarkson equation. Of concern is that, for example, the reference to page 135 of Graham W. Griffiths William E.Shiesser Traveling Wave Analysis of Partial Differential Equations is to a page referring to the Fisher-Kolmogorov equation which appears to support none of these articles. Furthermore, Google Books does not show any of the article titles as appearing in any of the books. Please clarify what these references are supposed to be supporting in these articles. Deltahedron (talk) 15:57, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * This response "Go to the library before asking questions" is uncivil. Please answer the question rather than making dismissive remarks.  Deltahedron (talk) 06:31, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Density plot
Hi. I'd like to draw your attention to the issue I raised here: Talk:Diffraction grating. --Lambiam 11:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Eckhaus equation
Hello Gisling, the article Eckhaus equation (which you created) addressed the wrong equations, so I changed it. Further the references you provided, like do not mention the Eckhaus equation at all. Your way of adding citations – i.e. adding references which do not mention at all the subject of the articles you created – have also been noticed in some user contributions above.
 * Graham W. Griffiths & William E. Shiesser (2012) Traveling Wave Analysis of Partial Differential Equations, Academic Press
 * Richard H. Enns & George C. McGuire (1997) Nonlinear Physics with Maple, Birkhauser
 * Eryk Infeld & George Rowlands (2000) Nonlinear Waves, Solitons and Chaos, Cambridge University Press

Further, I do not comprehend what the simulations you added to many articles depict: they lack a proper description/caption: i.e. of which solution to the equations – and under which conditions – they try to simulate.

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Mathematical notation
Please see my edits to Carotid–Kundalini function.

Note that you can write things like
 * $$ 3\cos x\,$$

coding it as 3\cos x, rather than
 * $$3*cos(x)\,$$

with "cos" instead of \cos. And you can write
 * $$3\cdot5\text{ or }3\times5\,$$

so using and asterisk, as in
 * $$3*5\,$$

is not necessary. An asterisk in that role is a workaround for situations where you are limited to the characters on the keyboard. Also
 * $$\frac\pi2\,$$

rather than something like
 * $$Pi/2\,$$

can be used. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:39, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Further editing of Neville theta functions
I found this: $$ NevilleThetaC(z,m)=\frac{\sqrt(2)*q(m)^{1/4}*(\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}(q(m)^(k*(k+1))*cos((1/2)*(2*k+1)*\pi*z/K(m))))}{\sqrt(K(m))*m^{1/4}}                          $$ $$ NevilleThetaC(z,m)=\frac{\sqrt(2*\pi)*q(m)^{1/4}*(\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}(q(m)^{k*(k+1)}*cos((1/2)*(2*k+1)*\pi*z/K(m))))  }{\sqrt(K(m))*m^{1/4}   }     $$ $$ NevilleThetaD(z, m)=\frac{\sqrt((1/2)*\pi)*(1+2*(\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}(q(m)^(k^2)*cos(k*\pi*z/K(m))))) }{\sqrt(K(m))  }                           $$ $$NevilleThetaN(z, m)=\frac{\sqrt(\pi)*(1+2*(\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}((-1)^k*q(m)^{k^2}*cos(k*\pi*z/K(m))))) }{ \sqrt(2)*(1-m)^(1/4)*\sqrt{K(m)}   } $$

I changed it to this:
 * $$ \theta_c(z,m)=\frac{\sqrt{2} \,q(m)^{1/4} \sum_{k=0}^\infty q(m)^{k(k+1)} \cos\left( \dfrac{\frac 1 2 (2k+1) \pi z}{K(m)}\right)}{\sqrt{K(m)}\, m^{1/4}} $$

 * $$ \theta_c(z,m)=\frac{\sqrt{2\pi} \,q(m)^{1/4} \sum_{k=0}^\infty q(m)^{k(k+1)} \cos\left( \dfrac{\frac 1 2 (2k+1) \pi z}{K(m)}\right) }{\sqrt{K(m)} \, m^{1/4}}    $$

 * $$ \theta_d(z, m)=\frac{\sqrt{\pi/2} \left(1+2\sum_{k=1}^\infty q(m)^{k^2} \cos\left( \dfrac{k\pi z}{K(m)}\right)\right) }{\sqrt{K(m)}  } $$

However, notice that in both the original and the newly edited versions, two of the subscripts say "c" whereas one of those should say "s". I'd change it if I knew which one.
 * $$ \theta_n(z, m)=\frac{\sqrt{\pi} \left(1+2 \left(\sum_{k=1}^\infty (-1)^kq(m)^{k^2} \dfrac{\cos(k\pi z)}{K(m)}\right)\right) }{ \sqrt{2}(1-m)^{1/4} \sqrt{K(m)}   } $$

Also, I inserted the assertion that they're named after Eric Harold Neville. I don't have a reference for that and I'm not 100% sure it's correct. If you know anything about that, maybe you can add a reference. Michael Hardy (talk) 17:34, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

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I started a discussion of some of your work on articles about mathematical equations. --Sammy1339 (talk) 16:16, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

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Bretherton equation
As for the Eckhaus equation, in Bretherton equation you added references which do not refer at all to this equation. I checked some of the references you provided: Both do not mention the Bretherton equation at all. Further gives a few times a reference to the Bretherton 1964 paper, but does not provide the equation itself, or a discussion of its characteristics and implications. Wikipedia articles are to be based on reliable sources, and these references -- although reliable -- are not sources on the Bretherton equation. Make sure you only add references relevant for the article's topic. Otherwise, in case of future misinformation, incidents may be reported. -- Crowsnest (talk) 13:19, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Graham W. Griffiths & William E. Shiesser (2012) Traveling Wave Analysis of Partial Differential Equations, Academic Press
 * Richard H. Enns & George C. McGuire (1997) Nonlinear Physics with Maple, Birkhauser
 * Eryk Infeld & George Rowlands (2000) Nonlinear Waves, Solitons and Chaos, Cambridge University Press

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User:唐戈 IS MEANT TO USE  ONLY IN ZH.WIKI,  IT SHOULD LINKS TO USER:gisling in en.wiki

Your "globalization" makes mess by automatically  assign a new User:唐戈  to my  en.wiki account that is YOUR FAULT not mine,  (show me my application for  user:唐戈  IN  EN.WIKI )

User:gisling should links to  user:唐戈  in zh.wiki, and vise versa

Your "globalization" created  an unwanted  user:唐戈 MULTIPLE  ACCOUNT IN  EN.WIKI, ALSO CREATED UNWANTED  "USER:GISLING"  IN ZH.WIKI

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Marc Lazar

Marc Lazar (born 19 June 1952) is a French academic who serves as a professor and director of the Doctoral School at the Paris Institute of Political Studies (better known as Sciences Po). He is also the president of the LUISS school of government in Rome. He manages a research group on contemporary Italy with the International Research Center (Centre de recherches internationales, CERI). He is a specialist of the History of left-wing politics and parties, and of Italian politics. He graduated from the School for Advanced Studies in the Social Sciences (EHESS).

Career
Born in Paris, Lazar taught as an Associate of History in public schools. After completing his Ph.D in History, he has been Jean Monnet fellow at the European University Institute as member of the department of History and of the department of Political Science. He has been researcher at the CNRS, in Political Science at the Centre for Comparative Analysis of Political Systems (Centre d'Analyse Comparative des Systèmes Politiques, CASCSP), University of Paris I (1987−1989), Lecturer in Political Science at the University of Paris I (1989−1993), Lecturer at Sciences Po (1990−1999), and Associate Professor at Stanford University, Program Stanford in Paris (1994−2005).

After his role as CNRS Permanent Researcher HDR, Lazar has been Professor of Political Sociology (1993−1999) at University Paris X, and then Professor of Political History and Sociology at Sciences Po since 1999. He has been visiting professor at Luiss-Guido Carli University in Rome (2007−2014). He is also a member of the Editorial Board of the French literary magazine Esprit, columnist for the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, and regular collaborator of French newspapers Le Monde, Libération, and Le Figaro, and French television and radio, such as France 2, France 3, Radio-France, and Europe 1, and the Italian television RAI.

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Mil Mi-34

The Mil Mi-34 (NATO reporting name: Hermit) is a light helicopter designed by the Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant in either a two or four seat configuration for utility and training. It was first flown on 17 November 1986 and introduced at the Paris Air Show in 1987. The Mi-34 entered production in 1993, and is capable of performing aerobatic manoeuvres, including rolls and loops.

Variants

 * Mi-34S – four seat production model powered by a 239 kW (325 hp) Vedeneyev (VOKBM) M-14V-26V nine-cylinder, air-cooled, radial engine mounted sideways in the fuselage, and equipped with modern avionics. A few aircraft were purchased by the Moscow police.
 * Mi-34S2 "Sapsan" – turbine version of the Mi-34. It will be able to accommodate up to 4 passengers and the first deliveries are planned by the end of 2011. It will be powered by Turbomeca Arrius-2F
 * Mi-34L – proposed version powered by a 261 kW (350 hp) Textron Lycoming TIO-540J piston engine. None built.
 * Mi-34P Patrulnyi (patrol) – Police patrol version for Moscow Mayor Office.
 * Mi-34A – Luxury version, intended to be powered by an Allison 250-C20R turboshaft engine. None built.
 * Mi-34M1 and Mi-34M2 – Proposed twin-turbine, six-passenger versions.
 * Mi-34UT – trainer with dual control.
 * Mi-34V or Mi-34VAZ or Mi-234 – proposed version powered by two VAZ-4265 rotary piston engines.
 * Mi-44 – proposed development with TV-O-100 engine and refined aerodynamics. A mockup was built in 1987.

Military operators

 * 🇧🇦 Bosnia and Herzegovina
 * Armed Forces of Bosnia and Herzegovina
 * 🇳🇬 Nigeria
 * Nigerian Air Force

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Is there any specific reason Mi-34 is a "Comparable aircraft" to itself? I'd like to remove that. A1s (talk) 13:21, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

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Jardine's Lookout

Jardine's Lookout is a mountain in Wan Chai District, Hong Kong with a height of 433 m. It is located east of Happy Valley, south of Causeway Bay, and west of Braemar Hill and north of Tai Tam Country Park.

A low-density, high-end residential area called Jardine's Lookout can be found between Wong Nai Chung Gap and Mount Butler. The residential area of Jardine’s Lookout consists of thirteen roads named after famous British persons during Hong Kong’s colonial times. Addresses on Tai Hang Road, Tai Hang Drive and Chun Fai Road are considered to be Tai Hang Mid-levels or Happy Valley, not Jardine’s Lookout.

Jardine's Lookout is surrounded by several other hills including Mount Nicholson, Violet Hill and Mount Butler.

History
Jardine's Lookout is named after William Jardine, founder of Jardine Matheson. It was from here, in the days of the sailing ships, that a watch was kept for the first glimpse of the sails of the firm's clippers coming from India and London. As soon as a vessel was signaled, a fast whaleboat was sent out to collect Jardines' mails. The correspondence was rushed back to the office so that the directors could have the first possible information on the world's markets. (This practice saved the company on at least one occasion, in 1866, when it learned of the collapse of the discount house Overend, Gurney and Company, about one hour before others did, and quickly withdrew its balances at a local bank before anyone else had heard of the news.)

Jardine's Lookout was the sight of fierce conflict in the Battle of Hong Kong and particularly, the Battle of Wong Nai Chung Gap. The Hong Kong Volunteer Defense Corps and Middlesex Machine gunners manned two pillboxes and other areas defending the pass around Jardine's Catchwater, as well as Canadian Winnipeg Grenadiers defending the adjacent Mount Butler. Japanese forces, after landing on the North Shore of Hong Kong Island; used Sir Cecil's Ride and moved up to this pass midway up the lookout and were engaged by Commonwealth forces. The fighting was the preliminary conflict in the Battle of Wong Nai Chung Gap.

Jardine’s Lookout and Mount Butler are popular for hikers who can enjoy scenery of Victoria Harbour. There are different routes to the top of the mountains and hikers often start near Hong Kong Parkview  through Wilson Trail. Jardine’s Lookout Gallery Route has some of the most beautiful sceneries of Hong Kong Island.

Residential area
Due to its scenic view and low population density, Jardine's Lookout is an affluent neighbourhood with the most expensive houses in Hong Kong, with prices higher than Victoria Peak. The residents of this community include highly placed expatriates, government officials and successful business people.

Although Jardine’s Lookout is commonly known as where Cavendish Heights is located at, the multi-block estate sits on the fringe of Jardine’s Lookout, on the border of Mount Butler, which is on the eastern side of block one. Residential buildings such as Park Garden, Flora Garden and Elm Tree Towers on Tai Hang Drive and Chun Fai Road are considered as the upper part of Tai Hang, below Mount Butler not Jardine’s Lookout.

Jardine's Lookout has large detached houses in private lots and more moderate townhouses on its thirteen roads. Low-rise and high-rise apartments make up the rest of the community. Houses in private lots include ones built in the 1950s which were in recent years sold to wealthy mainlanders. In 2015, Cheung Chung-kiu, Chairman of CC Land, reportedly purchased 1 Purves Road for about HK$760 million, or around HK$100,000 per square foot. In 2019, Joseph Lau Luen-hung's residence at Goldsmith Road ranked the fifth as Hong Kong’s most expensive residential properties in rental value estimated by the Hong Kong Government, with an annual estimated rental value of HK$8.23 million. In 2018, this house was reportedly by Apple Daily to be worth HK$2.5 billion. Translating into HK$250,000 per sq. ft. based on internal floor area of around 10,000 square feet,) it is the most valuable house in Hong Kong, followed by 75 Deep Water Bay Road. In 2020, the site at 20 Perkins Road was sold for HK$850 million representing a 40 percent drop compared to previous market transactions. This price translated into over HK$82,000 per square foot compared to another site on Perkins Road in 2018 which changed hands at HK$145,000 per square foot. Jardine’s Lookout has no hospitals, few public facilities, and very few local and overseas tourists. Only single detached houses can be built on private lots of most of the streets.

Jardine's Lookout has a grocery store, deli, florists, post office and many small provisions stores. This community is conveniently linked with public transportation and well-equipped with facilities. Jardine's Lookout is only a 10-minute drive to Central and 5-minute drive to Causeway Bay, (given good traffic) where the Cross-Harbour Tunnel is located, making the travel to Kowloon easy.

Famous residents
In June 2016, the Government of Canada sold the official residence of the Consul General located at 6 Goldsmith Road.
 * Joseph Lau Luen-hung, property tycoon
 * Gordon Wu, property tycoon
 * Miyakawa Michiko, wife of Chow Yei-ching, late Chairman of Chevalier Group
 * Cheung Chung-kiu, property tycoon

Education
Jardine's Lookout is in Primary One Admission (POA) School Net 12. Within the school net are multiple aided schools (operated independently but funded with government money) and the following government schools: Hennessy Road Government Primary School and Sir Ellis Kadoorie (Sookunpo) Primary School.

Located on Mt Butler Drive, the Lycée Français International Victor Segalen, a French international school, maintains its Jardine’s Lookout campus, housing primary school classes.

Braemar Hill Nursery School is on Chun Fai Road, on the fringe of Jardine’s Lookout.

Transport
There are taxis and buses that can bring residents to the main districts in Hong Kong.

Thoroughfares, roads and streets

 * Boyce Road
 * Clementi Road (not accessible by car)
 * Cooper Road
 * Creasy Road
 * Goldsmith Road
 * Henderson Road
 * Moorsom Drive
 * Moorsom Road
 * Mount Butler Drive
 * Mount Butler Road
 * Perkins Road
 * Purves Road
 * Price Road
 * Sir Cecil's Ride (not accessible by car)
 * Wilson Road

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This article seems to be quite biased and incorporates a substantial amount of unsubstantiated information. Additionally, a number of the source links at the bottom are either dead or point to irrelevant or deliberately misleading links. --- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.208.255.86 (talk) 20:47, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that section of this article about Cedomir Jovanovic and Mafia is misleading and should be updated to conform with NPO guidelines. His statement has been put out of context and government as a whole was accused for cooperating with organized crime. I think that that paragraph should be deleted or changed to reflect both sides. At present it alleges only one side of the story.
 * I did not write that he WAS mafia, I wrote that he was meeting them, presumably on behalf of the government. Which he did said he was. What's the problem there? Please, read the paragraph again, it does say that he was accused of actually being involved with them, but it does not that he was. I will reword it anyway, but seriously, read that paragraph again, before you make any more POV accusations. --Dejan Cabrilo 16:00, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I am sorry to reply again, but I modified the paragraph, to make sure that presumably who had contacts with mafia in order to curb them. What was exactly POV about that paragraph? He did have contacts ("my hands are dirty, but my consciousness is clear"), and he said so. Was he giving them any favors or just making sure that mafia stays out of politics or whatnot - we really don't know (I am sure it's the other thing, but we cannot prove it). So the article simply says that he was accused of giving them favors, and it says that Jovanovic denied this. If you wish, add stuff about him passing the lie-detector (I just don't know much about it, so I didn't mention it), but don't just remove it. Now please, READ the paragraph before you delete it again! --Dejan Cabrilo 16:12, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I did not delete it. My username is Trigor while it was deleted by mr. Pokrajac who I belive only agrees with me to some point. I do believe it should be changed and I am pleased with correction. I have read it several times and I do believe that there should be more info added. There was assembly hearing of Jovanocih. I will search for more statements to put them online and that will in turn ,I believe, present more objective picture. I personally do not believe in forced deletion of article. I prefer POV sign. It left me to believe after first reading that he was dealing with mafia and that he was gangster himself. I sincerely believe that article was POV assumption. You have now mention what he said were reasons behind visit and I believe article in present form to be more accurate than previous version. TRIGOR

Why that part about that being outrageous move? It is a bit POV. Thanks for deleting it.

Until I don't see some evidence I will keep reverting it. So if you want it to stay find some evidence that he is a gipsy.--Trigor 05:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I couldn't care less. --estavisti 11:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

No. It is not problem with that, but with out any facts I don't think it is vise to put it. If you don't have any sources it is bad idea to put this. I will request protection.--Trigor 04:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I really couldn't care less about that fucker Cheda. What's annoying me is your Romaphobia. However, if you don't want it in the article, I don't have the time to argue for it. --estavisti 05:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

He never admitted using cocaine. 77.105.53.90 (talk) 01:41, 28 April 2008 (UTC) Marko

The Serbian nationalist campaign against Cedomir
It's interesing to see how Serb radical editors are defacing the article about Cedomir Jovanovic all the time. The same thing is happening with the Natasha Kandic article, too. And Sonja Biserko, weel, she's not just defamed because she still haven't an article about her in Wikipedia.

It seems like everyone in Serbia or in former Yugoslavia that is against the expansion of Serbian borders beyond the territories currently fully controlled by Belgrade (Central Serbia and Vojvodina) are labeled as "bandits", "criminals", "traitors", "non-Serbs" or "anti-Serbs"... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.206.226.144 (talk) 15:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

 * This article is garbage. SovietCanuck (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 17:16, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Please avoid personal attacks to other editors (etc. Serb radical). This type of conduct is not permissible in any respect. Every editor with established facts can edit wikipedia's article.Polemos (talk) 15:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Did I miss something here? Where's the personal attack you speak of? A Serb radical is someone who supports the Serbian Radical Party. How can that be a personal attack if that's what they call themselves? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.176.189.49 (talk) 12:31, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Kids
Wait a minute. Are those his kids' names for real? I mean, it's just plain stupid to call your kids like that. I mean... i don't know what to say. --Baks (talk) 20:11, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I hope it's just a joke. As there is no valid source I am going to delete it.--80.136.100.80 (talk) 13:02, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Opportunist
Cedomir Jovanovic is a bittered opportunist, he tries to cash in by riding the serbo- and russophobia wave. He talks tough against Serbian nationalists and warcriminals, but at the same time supports Bosniak and Albanian nationalists and warcriminals. Apparently he is confused about his own identity, does not fit into the Serbian society and as such makes a career on his issues with the support of NATO countries. He is a regular visitor at the US embassy in Belgrade, for example to complain about Russian economic ties to Serbia. He does not care about Serbia, he is a puppet like those during the German occupation. He is dispised by mainstream Serbian public, the people who vote for him have the same issues as he has; i.e. not knowing where he/she fits in, hating the society he/she is living in, but loving everything foreign... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.182.134.143 (talk) 15:25, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

 * Thank you for your input. Please read WP:NOTFORUM before posting messages in talk pages again.  Timbouctou ( talk ) 22:14, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

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Chimes of Freedom: The Politics of Bob Dylan's Art

Chimes of Freedom: The Politics of Bob Dylan's Art is a major work on the music and politics of Bob Dylan, written by Mike Marqusee (New York, The New Press, 2003, ISBN 1-56584-825-X).

The book takes its title from the song "Chimes of Freedom", which is a transitional work between Dylan's earlier 'protest' style and his later more free-flowing obscure and poetic style.

Marqusee discusses Dylan's early influence by Woody Guthrie, his involvement with the protest movement, his ready youthful empathy with the Civil Rights Movement and with those in poverty within the USA; and his increasing disillusionment in the mid-sixties with protest politics. This was paralleled musically by his moving away from the use of a simple acoustic guitar, to a full backing group; and lyrically, by his evolution of a highly complex poetic style which influenced popular music for a generation.


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Royal Irish Rangers

The Royal Irish Rangers (27th (Inniskilling), 83rd and 87th) was a regular light infantry regiment of the British Army with a relatively short existence, formed in 1968 and later merged with the Ulster Defence Regiment in 1992 to form the Royal Irish Regiment.

Creation
The Royal Irish Rangers came into being on 1 July 1968 through the amalgamation of the three regiments of the North Irish Brigade: the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, the Royal Ulster Rifles and the Royal Irish Fusiliers. The date was initially known as "Vesting Day" (and then "Rangers Day"), emphasising that the traditions of the old regiments were "vested" in the new large regiment. Soon after creation in December 1968, and as part of a general reduction in the Army, the 3rd Battalion (former Royal Irish Fusiliers) was disbanded. The three regiments had old and differing traditions (Rifle and Fusilier) and to avoid favouring one above another, the unique designation "Rangers" was adopted. The title had not existed in the British Army since 1922. With the creation of the "Divisions of Infantry", the Royal Irish Rangers became part of the King's Division, along with regiments from the north of England.

Deployments
The 1st Battalion moved to Barrosa Barracks in Hemer, Germany in September 1970 from where units were deployed to Cyprus on peacekeeping duties in November 1971. The battalion returned home in July 1974 where it was stationed in Battlesbury Barracks in Warminster it became the infantry demonstration Battalion. Two years later it moved to RAF Little Rissington in the Cotswolds, before being sent to Berlin in May 1979. After returning home in April 1981 the battalion moved to Chester bfor 2 yrs before moving to Belfast Barracks in Osnabrück in January 1985. The battalion undertook a deployment to Northern Ireland during the Troubles in September 1988.

The 2nd Battalion, which had been based in Gibraltar on formation, returned home in October 1969. It moved to Barrosa Barracks in Hemer in July 1974 from where it deployed to Cyprus in January 1975. After returning home in March 1979, it moved to Wavell Barracks in Berlin in October 1981 and back to England in March 1983. It deployed to Cyprus in May 1985 and to the Falkland Islands in March 1987.

Options for change
Under the Options for Change reorganisation, the Royal Irish Rangers were amalgamated with the Ulster Defence Regiment to form the new Royal Irish Regiment (27th (Inniskilling) 83rd and 87th and Ulster Defence Regiment) in 1992.

Uniform
Accommodating the traditions of the three regiments required compromise: In addition all ranks of the new regiment were to wear 'piper green' trousers.
 * The caubeen was adopted as the headdress for the new Regiment as all the former regiments had worn it
 * The green hackle was formerly worn by the Royal Irish Fusiliers
 * The Castle collar badges had been worn by the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
 * The black buttons had been worn by the Royal Ulster Rifles
 * The brown cross belt was a compromise between the brown Sam Browne belts worn by the Fusiliers and the black cross belt worn in the Rifles

Territorial Army
The Territorial battalions formed the 4th Battalion Royal Irish Rangers (North Irish Militia) which also included the sole London Irish Rifles company and the 5th Battalion Royal Irish Rangers. The two TA battalions trained as units until 1993 when following the Options for Change White Paper, they were merged to form the 4/5th Battalion Royal Irish Rangers (Volunteers).

Post 1968

 * 21 May 1972. Ranger William J Best – 1 R IRISH. A 19-year-old on leave from Germany, abducted from his mother's home in Derry and killed by the OIRA.
 * 19 July 1972. Staff Sergeant Talaiasi Labalaba BEM, MID – 2 R IRISH (attached 22 SAS). During Battle of Mirbat in Oman.
 * 23 March 1974. Major D P Farrell MBE – 1 R IRISH (Retired). Shot dead by the OIRA when he was walking his dog near his home in Mountfield, near Omagh, County Tyrone.
 * 12 April 1974. Captain S Garthwaite MID - attached 22 SAS. Oman.
 * 6 December 1977. Ranger Charles George McLaughlin and Ranger Hugh Thompson  - 1 R IRISH.  Died on Fire Fighting duties in Manchester during the firemen's strike.
 * 28 December 1980. Warrant Officer Hugh McGinn – 5 (V) R IRISH. Shot by the Irish National Liberation Army at the door of his home in Armagh.
 * 13 April 1983. Sergeant Trevor A Elliot - 5(V) R IRISH. Shot by Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA) in Keady.
 * 9 May 1984. Corporal Trevor May - 4(V) R IRISH. Killed in Newry when an Improvised explosive device placed under a car exploded.
 * 9 October 1989. Lance Corporal Tommy Gibson – 4(V) R IRISH. Killed by PIRA in Kilrea.
 * 24 October 1990. Ranger Cyril J Smith QGM - 2 R IRISH. Killed when attempting to release a man tied to a proxy bomb - his car - driven into a Border checkpoint at Killeen near Newry. The man's family were held hostage in their home.
 * 17 January 1992. Ranger Robert Dunseath – 4 R IRISH. Killed in a roadside bomb attack at Teebane Crossroads, near Cookstown, County Tyrone, while on a civilian bus carrying workers from Lisanelly army barracks at Omagh.

Music of the regiment
The Regimental Quick March is Killaloe. It was written around 1887 by an Irish composer, Robert Martin, for the London Musical "Miss Esmeralda". The lyrics relate the story of a French teacher attempting to make himself understood to a difficult Killaloe class. Originally in 2/4 time, it was made well known in military circles by a cousin of the composer - Lt. Charles Martin of the 88th Connaught Rangers (The Devil's Own). He composed new lyrics, in 6/8 time, celebrating his Regiment's fame. No mention is made of the tune in the Regimental history, but there is an explanation that may account for the shout or yell in the military version of Killaloe.

Historically, in the 1st Battalion (Connaught Rangers), formerly the 88th, a favourite march tune was "Brian Boru" played when marching through a town - often after a hot and heavy march. On such occasions, and at a time given by the sergeant major, the band would pause and all ranks would give a "Connaught yell". The march became popular among the other Irish regiments and various other sets of lyrics were devised. On parade, soldiers of the Royal Irish Rangers gave a spine-tingling "Ranger yell"; this continues with the Royal Irish Regiment.

The first known recording of Killaloe was made by Richard Dimbleby when serving as a BBC war correspondent in Northern France shortly before Dunkirk. The "Famous Irish Regiment" Dimbleby reports playing as they march past is not named, but would have been either the Royal Irish Fusiliers or the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers.

Again in 1944, the BBC recorded the 1st Battalion, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers Pipes & Drums playing Killaloe, by then adopted unofficially as the march of the 38th (Irish) Brigade, during the approach to Monte Cassino. Killaloe was adopted by the Royal Irish Rangers on its formation and again later by the Royal Irish Regiment on its amalgamation in 1992.

Lyrics
The soldiers often put their own words to the tune which would be sung, sotto voce, as they marched: (Oh) We're the Irish Rangers,

The boys who fear no danger,

We're the boys from Paddy's land

Shut up you s and fight

Lineage

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 * rowspan="6" style="width:25%; "| The Royal Irish Rangers (27th (Inniskilling) 83rd and 87th)
 * rowspan="2" style="width:25%; "| The Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
 * style="width:25%; "| The 27th (Inniskilling) Regiment of Foot
 * style="width:25%; text-align:center;"| The 108th Regiment of Foot (Madras Infantry)
 * - style="text-align:center;"
 * rowspan="2" style="width:25%; "| The Royal Ulster Rifles
 * style="width:25%; "| The 83rd (County of Dublin) Regiment of Foot
 * style="width:25%; text-align:center;"| The 86th (Royal County Down) Regiment of Foot
 * rowspan="2" style="width:25%; text-align:center;"| The Royal Irish Fusiliers (Princess Victoria's)
 * style="width:25%; text-align:center;"| The 87th (Royal Irish Fusiliers) Regiment of Foot
 * style="width:25%; text-align:center;"| The 89th (The Princess Victoria's) Regiment of Foot
 * rowspan="2" style="width:25%; text-align:center;"| The Royal Irish Fusiliers (Princess Victoria's)
 * style="width:25%; text-align:center;"| The 87th (Royal Irish Fusiliers) Regiment of Foot
 * style="width:25%; text-align:center;"| The 89th (The Princess Victoria's) Regiment of Foot
 * style="width:25%; text-align:center;"| The 89th (The Princess Victoria's) Regiment of Foot

Regimental Colonels
Colonels of the Regiment were:

 * 1968–1972: Lt-Gen. Sir Ian Cecil Harris, KBE, CB, DSO (ex Royal Ulster Rifles)
 * 1972–1977: Maj-Gen. James Herbert Samuel Majury, CB, MBE
 * 1977–1979: Maj-Gen. David N.C. (O'Morchoe), The O'Morchoe, CB, MBE
 * 1979–1985: Maj-Gen. Humphrey Edgar Nicholson Bredin, DSO, MC
 * 1985–1990: Brig. Mervyn Noel Samuel McCord, CBE, MC, AMBIM
 * 1990–1992: Gen. Sir Roger Neil Wheeler, GCB, CBE, ADC

*1992 Regiment amalgamated with Ulster Defence Regiment to form the Royal Irish Regiment

title: Royal Irish Rangers