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Bryan Mosley

Bryan Mosley (25 August 1931 – 9 February 1999) was a British actor, best known for his role as grocer Alf Roberts in the long-running ITV soap opera Coronation Street.

Early life
Mosley was born in Leeds, an only child, to Agnes Basquill, a print worker, and Jimmy Mosley, a labourer at a dye factory. He attended Leeds Central High School and made his stage debut, aged 10, as the back end of a cow in the pantomime Cinderella. He modelled for clothes catalogues and held a childhood ambition to become a missionary. Instead, aged 13, Mosley won a scholarship to Leeds College of Art, where he studied from 1944 to 1946, and subsequently worked as a commercial artist. He also worked in a bookshop, as a drama teacher and sold encyclopaedias door-to-door.

In 1950, Mosley's father, a smoker and heavy drinker, died from a heart attack. His mother subsequently remarried, a marriage which Mosley did not approve of, and he remained estranged from his mother until her death.

In 1952, after national service in the RAF, working in air traffic control just outside Newcastle and in Scotland, Mosley trained as an actor at the Bradford Civic Theatre and Esme Church's Northern Theatre School. He then toured with the New Pilgrim Players, playing in churches, abbeys, pubs and prisons, before working in repertory theatre in York, Perth, Derby and Harrogate.

Coronation Street
Mosley joined the cast of Coronation Street in February 1961 (episode 18), and made recurrent appearances until 1963, as Post Office worker Alfred "Alf" Roberts, a colleague of Frank Barlow. He returned to the series briefly in 1967, before re-joining as a regular cast member in 1971. Alf became best known as the owner of the Corner Shop, local councillor and twice Mayor of Weatherfield in 1973 and 1994. His character was married three times: initially to Phyllis Plant (1946–1970), who did not appear onscreen; secondly to Renee Bradshaw (1978–1980); and latterly to Audrey Roberts, from 1985 onwards.

Mosley's appearances in the soap opera became less frequent following a serious heart attack in 1997, causing him to take eight months off from the show. After 37 years, and almost 2,000 episodes, his character was to be written out of the serial. Mosley, upset at the prospect of his character's demise, refused to act out his final dying scene, until Granada bosses offered him ten times his usual rate to play the scene. Alf Roberts made his last appearance on New Year's Day 1999, dying peacefully on screen in his sleep, watched by more than 18 million viewers. He received a standing ovation from the cast on set. Mosley recorded his final scenes on 4 December 1998, and died six weeks later from a heart attack.

Mosley also appeared with the Coronation Street cast in the 1989 Royal Variety Performance, and a 1990 LWT special, Happy Birthday, Coronation Street!, hosted by Cilla Black celebrating 30 years of the soap.

Other roles
Mosley made his screen debut in the film A Kind of Loving (1962). He also appeared in Get Carter (1971) playing local gangster Cliff Brumby. He is famously killed by Jack Carter (Michael Caine), who beats him up and throws him from the roof of the Trinity Square multi-storey car park in Gateshead, after discovering Brumby's involvement in his brother's death. He played alien dignitary Malpha and a Prop Man on a film set in the Doctor Who serial The Daleks' Master Plan in 1965 and made two appearances in The Avengers. Mosley also had small roles in Z Cars, Crossroads, A Family at War and as the pub landlord in Queenie's Castle.

Mosley performed alongside Arthur Haynes, Harry Worth and Dick Emery in their television shows. In addition, he appeared in commercials for Watney's, alongside Morecambe and Wise, in an advertisement for Albert's Crisps, as well as using his stunt skills to swing from a huge chandelier, sword in hand, in an unscreened advertisement for a cereal.

In October 1997, he was the subject of This is Your Life, being surprised by Michael Aspel on the set of Coronation Street. The episode went out on 3 November. Tributes were paid by actor Paul Shane and actress Kathy Staff. He was joined by the cast of Coronation Street.

Fight arranger
While performing in repertory theatre, Mosley used the fencing skills he learned in the RAF to direct the fights in a production of Othello, in Perth, and at the Theatre Royal, York, for Henry IV. He fenced with Terence Stamp in the film Far from the Madding Crowd, and taught fencing in schools around Leeds.

Mosely was also a fight director, and coached Robert Hardy, Tom Courtenay and Neil Diamond, who needed to look like a fencer for a photo-session. He was a founder member of the Society of British Fight Directors, intended to regulate fighting on stage and screen, and he arranged the Get Carter fight with Caine. He also endowed a fencing award at the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art. Mosley was sometimes credited as Buddy Windrush.

Personal life and death
Mosley married schoolteacher and childhood sweetheart Norma Bowes in Leeds, West Yorkshire, on 25 July 1956. The couple first met in the early 1940s whilst they both attended a local Youth club, at the Belle Vue Methodist Church, and after an engagement of four years, the pair remained married until Mosley's death. They had six children between 1957 and 1966; three sons (Jonathan, Bernard and Leonard) and three daughters (Jacqueline, Simone and Helen). The family lived in Nab Wood, near Shipley, West Yorkshire.

Mosley was a practising Roman Catholic who had made at least one pilgrimage to Lourdes. He was awarded an honorary degree from the University of Bradford. Mosley was a keen painter and trained at the Leeds College of Art. He was an honorary member of the British Watercolours Society, Ilkley, where he regularly exhibited his work. Mosley also wrote a regular column for The Weekly News.

In later life he began to suffer from cardiac troubles, and suffered his first heart attack in 1991. After a second more serious heart attack in 1997, he lost four stone in weight. In addition, Mosley had respiratory problems, and was told by producers of Coronation Street to leave the programme, ultimately leading him to give up his role as Alf Roberts.

On 9 February 1999, Mosley collapsed in the street outside the Market Hall, Westgate, near his home in Shipley. His wife was by his side and he was immediately taken to Bradford Royal Infirmary, but died on arrival from a heart attack, aged 67. His funeral took place a week later, on 16 February 1999, at St Mary and St Walburga Church, Shipley, attended by relatives and close friends, including Eileen Derbyshire. Following the private ceremony, Mosley was cremated at Nab Wood Crematorium, Shipley, with his Coronation Street character's trademark trilby laid on his coffin; a brass band played "For All The Saints". His widow, Norma, asked fans to light a candle in the window of their homes in tribute, stating "Although the ceremony is a private event, people can join us in spirit and place a lighted candle for Bryan in their window."

A public memorial service was later held at Salford cathedral, attended by more than 300 people, with members of the Coronation Street cast and the show's creator Tony Warren paying tribute. In respect, filming schedules were rearranged by Granada Television to enable cast members to attend.

Norma died on 16 October 2011, aged 79.

Legacy
In 1999, a biography, Street Life: The Bryan Mosley Story, by Chris Gidney, was published.

As part of the Coronation Street 40th anniversary celebrations in 2000, heritage plaques were unveiled outside the Granada Studios to four of the soap opera's stars, including Mosley. The other plaques commemorated the lives of Doris Speed, Pat Phoenix and Violet Carson.

In 2010, as part of the show's 50th anniversary celebrations, Alf Roberts featured in a video countdown, The Stars of the Street: 50 Years, 50 Classic Characters.

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John Ogilvie (lexicographer)

John Ogilvie (17 April 1797 – 21 November 1867) was a Scottish lexicographer who edited the Imperial Dictionary of the English Language.

Life
He was born 17 April 1797 in Marnoch, Banffshire (now in Aberdeenshire), the son of William Ogilvie, farmer, and Ann Leslie, daughter of a farmer in a neighbouring parish.

After receiving some elementary education at home, and attending the parish school for two quarters, Ogilvie worked as a ploughman until he was twenty-one. In 1818, after an accident, one of his legs had to be amputated above the knee. Afterwards Ogilvie taught successively in two subscription schools, in the parishes of Fordyce and Gamrie, both in Banffshire. With the help of a local schoolmaster, he prepared for university, and in October 1824 he entered Marischal College, Aberdeen. Adding to his income by private tuition, he graduated M.A. on 14 April 1828.

He remained in Aberdeen as a tutor until 13 May 1831, when he was appointed mathematical master in Gordon's Hospital, an educational establishment in the city. Marischal College conferred on him the honorary degree of LL.D. on 15 January 1848. He retained his mastership until July 1859.

Ogilvie died of typhoid fever at Aberdeen on 21 November 1867.

Works
To the Aberdeen Magazine 1831–2, Ogilvie contributed, under the signature 'Iota,’ ten 'Imitations of Horace' in Scottish dialect. In 1836 he worked for Blackie & Son's annotated edition of Thomas Stackhouse's History of the Bible. Messrs. Blackie engaged him in 1838 to revise and enlarge Webster's; he compiled the Imperial Dictionary (published 1847–1850) using Noah Webster's American Dictionary as its basis, expanding it greatly. The result appeared as the Imperial Dictionary, English, Technical, and Scientific, issued in parts from 1847 onwards, and published complete in 1850, and supplement 1855.

In 1863 Ogilvie issued an abridgment of the 'Dictionary,’ under the title 'Comprehensive English Dictionary, Explanatory, Pronouncing, and Etymological,’ the pronunciation being supervised by Richard Cull. In 1865 appeared the 'Students' English Dictionary, Etymological, Pronouncing, and Explanatory,’ in which etymology and definitions received special attention. A feature of all three dictionaries was their engravings, the 'Imperial' claiming to be the first after Nathaniel Bailey's to use pictorial illustrations. Ogilvie's last work was a condensation of the 'Students' Dictionary,’ entitled 'English Dictionary, Etymological, Pronouncing, and Explanatory, for the use of Schools,’ 1867. At his death he was revising the 'Imperial Dictionary,’ which was reissued in 1882–3, under the editorship of Charles Annandale.

Family
On 15 November 1842 Ogilvie married Susan Smart, daughter of a farmer near Stonehaven, Kincardineshire. She predeceased him on 20 May 1853, leaving two daughters and a son.

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DDT (disambiguation)

DDT, or dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane, is an insecticide.

DDT may also refer to:

Sciences

 * Deflagration to detonation transition, a type of explosion
 * DDT (gene)

Humanities and art

 * DDT (band) (ДДТ), a rock band from Russia
 * D.D.T. (band) a microtonal music group
 * Supernaut (Serbian band), formerly known as DDT
 * Denkmäler deutscher Tonkunst, a series of editions of German music
 * Death Defying Theatre, an Australian theatre company
 * Dragostea Din Tei, a single by the Moldovan pop group O-Zone

Sports

 * DDT (professional wrestling), a move in professional wrestling
 * DDT Pro-Wrestling (originally Dramatic Dream Team), a Japanese professional wrestling promotion

Technology

 * Allinea Distributed Debugging Tool, a debugger produced by Allinea primarily for debugging parallel programs
 * Dynamic Debugging Technique, a debugger in computer programming
 * Data-driven testing, a testing concern in model-based testing

Other

 * A transport document for goods shipments to Italy
 * Dark Dirigible Titan, a type of Bloon in the Bloons Tower Defense series

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International Baháʼí Council

The International Baháʼí Council (IBC) was an administrative institution of the Baháʼí Faith, first created in 1951 as a precursor to the Universal House of Justice, which replaced it in 1963.

Formation
The following is a January 9, 1951 telex to the Baháʼí world from Shoghi Effendi announcing the Council:
 * Proclaim National Assemblies of East and West weighty epoch-making decision of formation of first International Baháʼí Council, forerunner of supreme administrative institution destined to emerge in fullness of time within precincts beneath shadow of World Spiritual Center of Faith already established in twin cities of 'Akká and Haifa....

In this telex Shoghi Effendi described the significance of the International Baháʼí Council:
 * ...Hail with thankful, joyous heart at long last the constitution of International Council which history will acclaim as the greatest event shedding luster upon second epoch of Formative Age of Baháʼí Dispensation potentially unsurpassed by any enterprise undertaken since inception of Administrative Order of Faith on morrow of ʻAbdu'l-Bahá's Ascension, ranking second only to glorious immortal events associated with Ministries of the Three Central Figures of Faith in course of First Age of most glorious Dispensation of the five thousand century Baháʼí Cycle.

Shoghi Effendi also laid out several steps for the IBC's evolvement into the Universal House of Justice:
 * To these will be added further functions in course of evolution of this first embryonic International Institution, marking its development into officially recognized Baháʼí Court, its transformation into duly elected body, its efflorescence into Universal House of Justice, and its final fruition through erection of manifold auxiliary institutions constituting the World Administrative Center destined to arise and function and remain permanently established in close neighborhood of Twin Holy Shrines.
 * (Shoghi Effendi, Messages to the Baháʼí World – 1950–1957, pp. 7,8)

The appointed council represented the first international Baháʼí body. Mason Remey was appointed president of the council in March 1951 (prior to his appointment as a Hands of the Cause, which came in December 1951). A further announcement in March 1952 appointed several more officers to the Council and Rúhíyyih Khánum as the liaison between the Council and the Guardian.

Appointed International Baháʼí Council
In March 1951 Shoghi Effendi began appointing the membership of the IBC. During its first year, eight men and women were appointed. In 1952 two members had left due to reasons of health. In 1955 Shoghi Effendi appointed a ninth member. The members of the International Baháʼí Council, the dates of their appointment, their offices on the IBC and those that were Hands of the Cause were:
 * Rúhíyyih Khanum	(1951–61)	Liaison with Shoghi Effendi; Hand of the Cause of God
 * Charles Mason Remey	(1951–61)	President; Hand of the Cause
 * Amelia Collins		(1951–61)	Vice President; Hand of the Cause
 * Leroy Ioas		(1952–61)	Secretary General; Hand of the Cause
 * Jessie Revell		(1951–61)	Treasurer
 * Luṭfu'lláh Ḥakím	(1951–61)	Eastern Assistant Secretary
 * Ethel Revell		(1951–61)	Western Assistant Secretary
 * Ugo Giachery	(1952–61)	Member-at-large; Hand of the Cause
 * Ben Weeden		(1951–52)
 * Gladys Weeden		(1951–52)
 * Sylvia Ioas		(1955–61)

Between 1951 and 1957 Shoghi Effendi directed the members and used the Council to create an image of an international body handling the Baháʼí affairs in Haifa. According to Shoghi Effendi, the Council's responsibilities were to:
 * establish links with the Israeli authorities, and
 * negotiate with them concerning an establishing of a Baháʼí court to deal with personal matters,
 * assist Shoghi Effendi to complete the superstructure of the Shrine of the Báb
 * serve as an international Baháʼí secretariat.

Baháʼí Court
In Messages to the Baháʼí World – 1950–1957, Shoghi Effendi described the Baháʼí Court as an “essential prelude to the institution of the Universal House of Justice” (p. 13) and that the IBC “must pave the way for the formation of the Baháʼí Court.” (|court&action=highlight#pg149 p. 149) It was also cited as one of Shoghi Effendi's goals for the Ten Year Crusade. The Court was to come about as a result of its recognition as a legal non-Jewish religious court inside of the state of Israel and was to be composed of the appointed members from the IBC.(|court&action=highlight#pg152 p. 152) Despite his efforts, the Court had not yet come into existence at the time of Shoghi Effendi's death in 1957.

From this point forward the IBC operated under the direction of the Custodial Hands of the Cause and they agreed to carry out Shoghi Effendi's plans for its evolvement.(Ministry of the Custodians, p. 37) In November 1959 the Hands announced to the Baháʼí world that the International Baháʼí Council would go from an appointed body to an elected body. They said: "We wish to assure the believers that every effort will be made to establish a Baháʼí Court in the Holy Land prior to the date set for this election. We should however bear in mind that the Guardian himself clearly indicated this goal, due to the strong trend towards the secularization of Religious Courts in this part of the world, might not be achieved." (Ministry of the Custodians, p. 169) The IBC's recognition as a Baháʼí court was never achieved.

In 1960 one of the members of the IBC, Charles Mason Remey, was declared as a Covenant-breaker by the Hands for claiming to be the Guardian and was expelled from the Baháʼí Faith.

Duly Elected Body
The election for the new International Baháʼí Council was scheduled for Ridvan 1961. The Hands of the Cause declared themselves ineligible for election and requested the Baháʼís not vote for them since the appointed institutions of the Baháʼí Faith were different in both nature and function from the elected administrative bodies. The election was concluded via postal ballot by all members of National Spiritual Assemblies and regional spiritual assemblies of 1960–61. All adult Baháʼís were eligible for election except for the Hands of the Cause. The members of the elected Council were:

 * Ali Nakhjavani		(1961–63)	President
 * Sylvia Ioas	(1961–63)	Vice President
 * Charles Wolcott	(1961–63)	Secretary General
 * Jessie Revell		(1961–63)	Treasurer
 * Ian Semple		(1961–63)	Assistant Secretary
 * Luṭfu'lláh Ḥakím	(1961–63)	Eastern Assistant Secretary
 * Ethel Revell		(1961–63)	Western Assistant Secretary
 * Borrah Kavelin		(1961–63)	Member-at-large
 * Mildred Mottahedeh	(1961–63)

The elected IBC was under the direction and supervision of the Hands of the Cause of God. The Council's responsibilities included two of the original functions assigned by Shoghi Effendi:
 * to forge links with the Israeli authorities, and
 * to negotiate with them related to matters of personal status.

In addition to these, the Hands instructed the Council to assist them with:
 * the care of the properties at the World Centre,
 * the establishment of the Universal House of Justice,
 * any other functions they assigned.

Universal House of Justice
The election of the Universal House of Justice took place on Ridvan 1963. With this election, the International Baháʼí Council ceased to exist although five male members of the Council were elected.

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Bill Gilmour (director)

Bill Gilmour is a Scots television director who worked for Granada Television for over twenty years.

Early life and education
He was born on 17 March 1939 in the small town of Peebles in the Tweed Valley of the Scottish Borders. He went to Ealing Art College in West London, where he specialised in photography, while attending Frank Auerbach's drawing classes. He joined Scottish Television in 1960 as a camera operator, moving after four years to floor managing, before joining Granada Television in 1967. Gilmour began directing in 1972. He remained with Granada until 1989.

Career
Gilmour directed the plays Happy Returns by Brian Clarke, Some Enchanted Evening by C. P. Taylor, and The Game by Paul Pender.

He directed episodes of the off-beat detective television series, Strangers, and the 'spin off' series, Bulman by writers Murray Smith, Paul Wheeler and Eddie Boyd. He directed many episodes of Sam, The Spoils of War (TV series) and This Year Next Year, series written by John Finch, which were shot in studio and on location in the Lake District and the Yorkshire Dales. Gilmour's work continued with Cribb, a Victorian Scotland Yard detective drama based on the novels by Peter Lovesey, and House of Caradus, a series set in a fine art auction house, as well as twenty-seven episodes of Crown Court, a courtroom drama in which a case is played before a jury drawn from members of the public. Over the years, he directed one hundred and eighty-six episodes of Britain's longest-running soap opera, Coronation Street.

In the 1970s, Gilmour directed episodes of the comedy How's Your Father, written by John Stevenson. He produced and directed The Cuckoo Waltz, written by Geoffrey Lancashire, a comedy series about a young married couple and their lodger.

He directed twenty-six episodes of Loving for ABC Television in New York, nine episodes of EastEnders for the BBC, a comedy William and Wilma for Gemini Films and WDR in Cologne and Hollyoaks for Channel 4.

In Manchester, he directed Maureen Pryor in a stage production of Before Breakfast by Eugene O'Neill.

Gilmour directed twenty-six episodes of Allsorts, continuing an interest in children's reading. With Three Bob for D-Day, he went on the fortieth anniversary of D-Day to Normandy with a coach full of Liverpool riflemen to make two films. He made Working in a large psychiatric hospital. Playing is a film on children's street songs. He directed an edition of World in Action, the story being, the less you earn the higher a proportion goes in tax.

He contributed an essay to the book, Granada Television, The First Generation, edited by Michael Cox, John Finch, and Marjorie Giles.

Personal life
In 1983, newspapers reported that Gilmour was going to marry Julie Goodyear, who played Bet Lynch in Coronation Street. It was then reported that the engagement had been broken ten days before the wedding.

Gilmour lives in Edinburgh. He is divorced, and has a daughter.

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Reference
I had difficulty finding much biographical information about John Ogilvie, editor of the Imperial. (A lot about St. John Ogilvie, of course.} I wrote this bio based largely on the entry in the Century Cyclopedia of Names.  Besides more on his life, I want to find out if George W. Ogilvie, who later had control of the Imperial, was a son or grandson.  I also want more info on the publication history of the ''Imperial and its descendants.  For details on this part, see Talk:Imperial Dictionary.  - This entry revised:  216.19.218.5 04:08, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)   216.19.218.103 22:11, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Hamilton Palace

Hamilton Palace was a country house in Hamilton, South Lanarkshire, Scotland. It was the seat of the Dukes of Hamilton and is widely acknowledged as having been one of the grandest houses in the British Isles. The palace dated from the 14th century, was rebuilt in the Baroque style between 1684 and 1701 and was subsequently much enlarged in the Neoclassical style between 1824 and 1832.

The palace was situated at the centre of the extensive Low Parks (now Strathclyde Country Park), with the Great Avenue, a broad, north–south tree-lined avenue over 3 mi in length, as its axis. The Low Parks also contained the Hamilton Mausoleum designed by David Hamilton and the 11th-century Netherton Cross. South of the Avon Water, the High Parks (now Chatelherault Country Park) contained the Deer Park and the Chatelherault Hunting Lodge designed by William Adam. The palace housed two libraries and a renowned collection of fine and decorative art which were dispersed in two huge sales in 1882 and 1919.

Hamilton Palace was demolished between 1921 and 1932 after coal works beneath the house were discovered to threaten its structural integrity.

13th-16th centuries
The building at the core of Hamilton Palace was a 14th-century tower house known variously as 'The Orchard' or the 'Castle of Hamilton', which was the seat of the Hamilton family. The earliest reference to a castle at Hamilton is in a charter of 1445, when James Hamilton was created first Lord Hamilton. When the palace was demolished in the 1920s, the remains of walls up to 2.7 m thick (compared to 0.9 m elsewhere in the building), were discovered in the north-west quarter, clearly indicating the defensive nature of the medieval core of the palace. In 1451 the medieval parish church of Hamilton (which stood to the east of the later palace) was promoted to collegial status by Lord Hamilton. 'The Orchard' was the object of much destructive attention on the part of royal armies in the period between 1565 and 1579, suffering damage in a siege of 1570 during the Marian civil war due to James Hamilton, Duke of Châtellerault's support for Mary, Queen of Scots. The castle was damaged again in 1579 on the occasion when Cadzow Castle was destroyed and left abandoned. It accommodated King James VI on a hunting trip in 1589. 'The Orchard' was rebuilt and enlarged in 1591 on a quadrangular plan and named the 'Palace'.

17th-18th centuries
Anne, 3rd Duchess of Hamilton and her husband, William, Duke of Hamilton, commissioned a major rebuilding programme at Hamilton Palace from 1684 to 1701. Dubbed by the Hamilton family as 'The Great Design', these works led to the creation of a U-plan country house, with an open south-facing courtyard which followed the outline of the existing late 16th-century enclosed quadrangle. Under the direction of the architect James Smith, the south quarter of Hamilton Palace was removed entirely, the east and west quarters were rebuilt as courtyard wings, while the north wing was left much as it had been before, although it was refaced and remodelled internally. The south front was rebuilt between 1693 and 1701 in the Baroque style, the principal feature of this new formal ceremonial entrance being the frontispiece with its huge Corinthian portico. Behind the facade of the remodelled north front, the first floor was fully taken up by the 36.6 m Long Gallery, while the first floor of the west wing contained the main suite of ducal apartments.

A new north front had been planned by James, 5th Duke of Hamilton in the 1730s, and extensive plans were prepared by William Adam. The Duke's early death and the significant costs involved prevented the plans from being executed, but significant programme of interior decoration was carried out in the east wing of the palace under Adam's supervision. Modifications and additions continued during the next century, including the purchase or exchange of land surrounding the palace, enabling extensive landscaping to take place.

19th century
Upon his succession to the ducal title and estates in 1819, Alexander, 10th Duke of Hamilton began to enhance and enlarge the north front of Hamilton Palace, using the vast wealth that the family derived from their ownership of the Lanarkshire coalfields. The Duke wanted to erect a grand residence which not only reflected the increasing wealth and national standing of the family but also provided an appropriately grand setting for the considerable art collections which he continued to gather, including the Beckford art collection and library that his wife Susan had inherited from her father William Thomas Beckford. This refurbishment included heraldic carvings in the main pediment over the entrance, carved by John Greenshields in 1822. Between 1824 and 1832 the north front itself was enhanced and enlarged by the distinguished Glasgow architect David Hamilton. The 15-bayed, three storey north front was 265 feet long and 60 feet high, adorned with a colossal portico of six 25 ft Corinthian columns. In addition to existing rooms such as the Long Gallery, Old Dining Room, Old State Breakfast Room, Old State Drawing Room and Old State Bedroom, new state rooms such as the Egyptian Hall, Entrance Hall, Tribune, Billiard Room, Charter Room, State Dining Room, Drawing Room, State Bedroom, Music Room, the Hamilton Library and the Beckford Library were built. These held much fine furniture and by the mid-19th century housed one of the best private collections of paintings in Scotland, including works by Peter Paul Rubens (see below), Titian, Anthony van Dyck, and other masters. A sumptuous chimneypiece by William Morgan adorned the Dining Room's fireplace.

The new palace provided an appropriate setting for a number of magnificent social events: in 1831 it was visited by Marie Thérèse of France, the eldest child of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette, while in 1843 Henri, Count of Chambord visited the palace and a grand reception was held there following the marriage of the future 11th Duke to Princess Marie Amelie of Baden. In 1851 the palace was visited by Victoria, Duchess of Kent (the mother of Queen Victoria), and in 1860, a great crowd gathered in the park to catch a glimpse of the visiting French empress Eugénie. A grand ball was held at the palace in her honour.

After his marriage in 1843, William, 11th Duke of Hamilton lived chiefly in France and Germany, took little interest in his Scottish or English affairs and never attended the House of Lords. His son, William, 12th Duke of Hamilton, took a great interest in horse racing, gambling and sailing. He disliked Hamilton Palace and resided at Brodick Castle on the Isle of Arran and, after his marriage to Lady Mary Montagu, the eldest daughter of the 7th Duke of Manchester, in December 1873, he developed Easton Park in Suffolk (which had been inherited by the 10th Duke in 1830) as his principal seat and sporting estate. It was closer to the major race courses and also meant that he could base his steam yacht Thistle at Ipswich, from where he could sail to Brodick Castle, Cowes and racecourse venues on the continent.

Hamilton Palace was visited in January 1878 by Edward, Prince of Wales, Napoléon, Prince Imperial and Rudolf, Crown Prince of Austria for game shooting in the High Parks, with their visit concluding with a grand ball with 400 guests. By the later 19th century, Hamilton Palace was proving expensive to maintain, and was used only as an occasional residence by the Hamilton family. The programmes of rebuilding and art collecting on the part of the 10th Duke and his successors had left a heavy burden of debt on the estate. The 12th Duke of Hamilton spent a fortune on horses, increasing the Hamiltons’ debts to around £1.5 million. The 12th Duke was only saved from financial ruin when his race horse Cortolvin won the 1867 Grand National horse race, with the substantial prize money and the £16,000 from the bookmakers restoring his fortune substantially. However, in order to fund his continued extravagancies, in 1882 the Duke was forced to sell the Beckford art collection, Beckford Library, and Hamilton Library housed in Hamilton Palace. The Hamilton Palace Sale at Christie's in London took place from 17 June to 20 July 1882 and involved the sale of some 2,213 articles. The sale included paintings by Dürer, Rembrandt, Rubens, Velázquez and van Dyck; Chinese, Japanese, Meissen, Sèvres and English porcelain; bronzes, furniture, tapestries, chandeliers, busts, and vases. The sale raised almost £397,562 and, when added to the sale of the libraries, realized £786,847,.

Decline

The 12th Duke died at Algiers in 1895. He owned 157000 acre in Scotland and England (worth an estimated annual income of £147,000 - £118 million as of 2023), but still had debts of £1.5 million. The Duke's trust disposition and settlement conveyed his estate to trustees and left detailed instructions for the administration of his estate, which comprised the Hamilton Estates (in Lanarkshire, including Hamilton Palace); the Arran Estate (Brodick Castle and the greater part of the Isle of Arran); the Kinneil Estates (in Stirlingshire, including Kinneil House) and the Easton Estate and the Great Glemham Estate in Suffolk. The Duke's only child was his ten-year-old daughter, Lady Mary Hamilton, so the title of 13th Duke of Hamilton passed to his fourth cousin, Alfred Douglas-Hamilton, a poor Royal Navy lieutenant.

The 12th Duke's trustees were given power to sell the Glemham Estate and apply the proceeds, and that of some moveable property (including the Duke's yacht), towards paying off the debts on the Easton Estate. The Arran and Easton Estates, along with their income, passed to Lady Mary and her descendants, while the Hamilton and Kinneil Estates passed to the 13th Duke, who took on over £1 million in debts, which took him until July 1908 to pay off. The trust disposition and settlement of the 12th Duke also stated: "with reference to Hamilton Palace, which is not now used by me as a place of residence, that it shall be in the power of my said trustees if they, in their sole discretion, shall think it advisable to do so, to entirely displenish and dismantle the palace, and take down and remove the building, or allow the same to fall into disuse". In 1889 the 12th Duke had leased to the Bent Colliery Company (who owned the Hamilton Palace Colliery at nearby Bothwellhaugh), the coal under the Low Parks, to be worked on a system, known as the 'stoop and room' method, which would have left Hamilton Palace and the nearby Mausoleum supported by the pillars of coal known as stoops.

By the 20th century large and ostentatious country houses had fallen from fashion, partly due to the prohibitive cost of their upkeep. Hamilton Palace had long ceased to be a residence of the Hamilton family. The 13th Duke had been paralysed in 1890 by a rare tropical disease and considered the huge palace unsuitable as a modern residence, preferring to live a rural life at the smaller Dungavel House in Lanarkshire. The palace had not been updated since 1876 and could not be brought up to date and maintained with only the income from the Hamilton and Kinneil estates in central Scotland that the 13th Duke had inherited. In July 1914 the Duke and Duchess hosted King George V and Queen Mary when they visited the palace, which was marked by a grand reception. In June 1915 the Duke lent part of the palace for the accommodation of soldiers and sailors who had been injured during the First World War and discharged from hospitals and convalescent homes. In November 1915 the 12th Duke's trustees granted the Bent Colliery Company the authority to work the coal seam beneath Hamilton Palace.

Sales and demolition
In June 1919 the trustees petitioned the Court of Session for authority to sell the contents of Hamilton Palace and then demolish the building. The trustees had been advised that the coal workings then in progress beneath the palace would damage and might ultimately destroy the fabric of the palace, and so - with the approval of the 13th Duke - they had decided to demolish it. Permission was granted by the Court of Session on 12 June 1919. At this time, the magazine Country Life featured a number of articles on the palace and a quantity of photographs were taken by A. E. Henson, the magazine's staff photographer, to accompany the series. As such they represent an invaluable record of the palace before the sale of contents and fittings and its demolition.

The sale of the Hamilton Palace Collection took place from 4 to 7 November 1919 took place at Christie's. The sale raised £232,847 and included furniture, porcelain, silver plate, tapestries, jewellery and paintings by van Dyck, Rubens, Rembrandt, Reynolds, Romney, Raeburn, Delacroix and Winterhalter. The remaining contents of the palace - 572 lots including wood panelling, furniture, porcelain, carpets, curtains, sculpture and fittings - were sold at the palace from 12 to 14 November 1919, raising £29,000. In May 1920 Hamilton Town Council considered purchasing the building from the trustees, with a view to restoring it and converting it into flats for public housing, while in December of that year the Duke and Duchess of Hamilton gifted 22 acre of ground at the south front of Hamilton Palace to the town council for recreational purposes In October 1921 the building was sold for £7,500 to the Edinburgh building contractor William D. Lillico for dismantling and demolition, with demolition work commencing in November 1921. The palace was so solidly built that it took far longer to dismantle and demolish than Lillico had expected. When the travel writer H. V. Morton visited Hamilton Palace in 1927 or 1928, he found that the roof had been removed, but that the black marble staircase and the bronze Atlantes were still in place in the now soaking interior. The last sections of the palace were demolished in 1932. In July 1922 Hamilton Town Council purchased 750 acre of the Hamilton Estate, including Hamilton Mausoleum, the stables and the riding school, from the trustees for £20,250.

Parks and landscape
Hamilton Palace was built in the flood plain of the River Clyde and in close proximity to the town of Hamilton, which grew up around its western boundaries. Situated in the Low Parks, the palace stood at the centre of an extensive garden which, as its main axis, had a great north–south tree-lined avenue over 3 mi in length. This designed landscape may have originated in the late 17th century but was first drawn up in 1708 by Alexander Edward. The layout was later developed, most notably by William Adam, who introduced Châtelherault hunting lodge into the south avenue in the High Parks where it commanded a broad vista northwards across the Low Parks. The Low Parks contained a number of buildings.

Netherton Cross
The Netherton Cross is the oldest symbol of Christianity in Hamilton. The location where the cross originally stood lay to the north of the medieval motte hill in the Low Parks, and is now part of Strathclyde Country Park. The Netherton Cross dates back to the 10th or 11th century and is a rare example of ecclesiastical sculpture from the Kingdom of Strathclyde. It is a free-standing carved cross of red sandstone standing to a height of 2.1 metres and is decorated on all four sides with figurative scenes of humans, animals and patterns. In 1857 Hamilton Town Council and the Duke of Hamilton appointed a committee to conserve the cross and a railing was erected around it to protect it.

The Duke and Duchess of Hamilton gifted the cross to Hamilton Town Council in January 1920. In 1926 the Netherton Cross was moved from its site in the Low Parks and erected in front of Hamilton Old Parish Church. The cross is under the protection of Historic Environment Scotland.

Hamilton Collegiate Church
The medieval parish church of Hamilton stood close to the east front of Hamilton Palace. Promoted to collegiate status by the 1st Lord Hamilton in 1451, it continued in use after the Reformation in 1560 as the local parish church and burial-ground. With the opening of Hamilton Old Parish Church in 1734, the medieval church was demolished, with the exception of the east end and the attached aisle which served as the burial vault of the ducal family. In 1852 the remains of the 12 members of the family buried there were moved to Hamilton Mausoleum and the east end and aisle were demolished.

Hamilton Mausoleum
In line with his grandiose enlargement of Hamilton Palace, Alexander, 10th Duke of Hamilton planned to redesign or replace his family burial vault which stood close to the east of the palace in the aisle of the old and dilapidated Hamilton Collegiate Church. The architects David Hamilton and Henry Edmund Goodridge both produced designs for a chapel and mausoleum on the medieval church site. Neither came to anything and in the end, in 1848, the commission eventually fell to David Bryce to build Hamilton Mausoleum on a fresh site 650 ft northeast of the palace.

Hamilton Palace Riding School
Built from 1837 to 1842 for the 10th Duke of Hamilton by the Edinburgh architect William Burn, what was known as the Duke's Riding School was built to replace the stables court within Hamilton Palace. In the 1920s and 1930s, the Riding School was equipped with a gymnasium and boxing ring for the Douglas and Clydesdale Amateur Boxing Club. The building was the museum of the Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) from 1983 to 1995, and is now the Low Parks Museum.

The site today
The site of Hamilton Palace is now occupied by the bowling pavilion, bowling greens and car park of the Hamilton Palace Sports Ground. Most of Hamilton Palace's grounds were incorporated into Strathclyde Country Park. When the park was being constructed in 1974, vaulted cellars were discovered which may have belonged to the palace. However, these were not excavated but instead infilled with rubble. Hamilton Mausoleum still stands in Strathclyde Country Park and tours can be booked at the nearby Hamilton Low Parks Museum. The black marble chimneypiece and chimneypiece wall of the palace's Old State Drawing Room is on display in the National Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh. The Dining Room is on display at the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston. Five panels of wrought iron railings from the palace grounds can be seen outside Hamilton College. The remains of the tree-lined "Great Avenue" that linked Hamilton Palace to Chatelherault hunting lodge can still be seen. These give the visitor a good indication, particularly from Chatelherault Country Park, of where the palace stood.

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Brian Mills (television director)

Brian Arthur Mills (25 October 1933 – 3 June 2006) was a British television director, mainly for Granada Television. His credits (as director) include Strangers, Bulman, First Among Equals, Coronation Street and Granada's Sherlock Holmes series. He was the only television director to direct episodes of Coronation Street in each of its first five decades.

Mills was married to the stage and television actress Brigit Forsyth, although they separated in 1999; seven years before his death on 3 June 2006, aged 72.

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Nowhere (event)

Nowhere is a Burning Man regional event in Spain, the biggest such regional event in Europe. It began in 2004 and is held annually in July in the Monegros Desert, located in Aragon in north-eastern Spain.

As an officially-sanctioned regional event, Nowhere embraces the Burning Man principles. There are now around 3600 participants.

Features
Nowhere, like any Burning Man event, differs drastically from a music festival. Participation is the key element of the event and every attendant is expected to be involved in some way. Every task ranging from setup over maintaining the gate and perimeter up to first aid are volunteer based. There is no hired workforce aside from transport and logistics. Further, there are no scheduled performers or stages. Participants pay everything they contribute out of their own pocket as there is a strict rule of non commerce.

Being situated in the region of Monegros near Zaragoza, Nowhere is characterized by its dry, desert climate. Because it is Europe's largest burn event, Nowhere has historically drawn a nationally diverse crowd.

Barrios
A Barrio is a group of people who camp together, share infrastructure (kitchen, shade structure, etc.), and usually provide a service or attraction to the other participants. Barrios must register for the event and be assigned a location based on their size and sound zone preferences.

Barrios are a vital part of Nowhere and in 2018 the event hosted about 50 Barrios ranging from large sound camps to meditation camps. There are special Barrios like Werkhaus, which house core event volunteers.

Freecampers
Aside from the Barrios, there are many free camps for independent campers who are not affiliated with a Barrio where the majority of participants stay. They are referred to as Freecampers. In these areas, some Freecampers create their own shade structures and artwork. Others set up public areas within free camping areas. Middle of Frickin Freecamp is one of the most well-known (MOFF). MOFF, which has become a Nowhere institution, allows for gatherings and workshops.

No open fires
Nowhere does not include fire as a key feature of the event. Due to the dry area, which is on wildfire alert during the summer, it is strictly forbidden to have any kind open fire, therefore no art is set on fire. Fire spinning is restricted to a controlled area with fire marshals on duty. The burning of an effigy happened only once in 2016 after coming to an agreement with the local authorities.

Layout
Nowhere is created solely by the participants and driven by theme camps which are called Barrios. During the last incarnations Nowhere used a layout that resembled a compass. This leads to an arrangement of the Barrios in a circle-like shape. Nowhere further divides the camps into four distinct sound zones reading from the blue zone which has a no sound policy to the red zone which hosts the dance camps. The same goes for the free camping areas.

Art
Art is the core of any burn event and Nowhere does not differ from this. Despite this, large scale artworks are rare at Nowhere. This is in part due to the strict non burning policy. The logistics of transport, setup, takedown and removal are more challenging to the participants because of this. Nowhere gives art grants for artists up to €3000. Artworks that are meant to be built on the playa require prior registration.

Public infrastructure
The event has a central shade structure known as Middle of Nowhere (MoN). It is a public space for relaxing, dancing, workshops and socializing. Other public infrastructure includes: NoInfo which serves as the general point of information, La Cantina which offers volunteers a free meal and Werkhaus, which sets up and keeps the public infrastructure intact.

History
The roots of Nowhere date back to 2002 when UK burners started to organize a decompression party in London. Nowhere has been held in several different locations in the Navarra and Aragon regions of Spain. It began in 2004, in Bardenas Reales. The current location is near Sariñena in the Province of Huesca. In 2016, attendance was about 1000 people; in 2017, about 1000 or 1500 people; and in 2018 and 2019 around 3600 participants. Nowhere was cancelled in 2020 and 2021. The 2022 event sold 3600 tickets.

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Stephen Butcher

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 * Stephen Butcher (Royal Marine) (1904–2005), English serviceman; one of UK's last 11 veterans of World War I
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Charles Mantoux

Charles Mantoux (May 14, 1877, Paris – 1947) was a French physician and the developer of the eponymous serological test for tuberculosis.

He graduated from the University of Paris, where he studied under Broca. For health reasons, he relocated to Cannes but continued to work in Paris during the long vacation periods granted to patients in sanatoriums.

In 1908, he presented his first study of intradermal injections to the French Academy of Sciences and published this work in 1910. In the following years, the intradermal test replaced the subcutaneous test (Pirquet test). Mantoux completed this research and made other contributions to public health and radiology without any affiliation with major universities and institutions.

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Shoesmith

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 * Gavin Shoesmith, Australian singer, songwriter, double bassist and bass guitarist
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Talk:Brahmo Samaj

CONTENT DISPUTE: Copyrighted, controversial media on page
this is the place for the latest on the Keshab image dispute Landirenzo (talk) 09:40, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * The latest on Keshav image is that after "Village Pump (Policy)" is inconclusive, I posted the discussion to "Wikipedia:Media copyright questions" which is a specific article for such issues. The "latest" is
 * "Actually, I've looked into the debate surrounding this image a little further, and I think my initial answer was incorrect. On further reflection, I tend to agree that this work cannot be established as being in the public domain unless a date of publication can be established, given the following quote from Wikipedia's public domain guidelines: "When a work has not been published in the U.S. but in some other country, that other country's copyright laws also must be taken into account." However, if Indian law has a clause similar to the U.S.'s "right to assume public domain status" rule cited by Dragon's flight, then the image can be considered PD after all. I continue to make no comment on the authenticity of the photo, which is not a copyright question. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 19:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)" Yvantanguy (talk) 14:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * So, what does Indian Copyright Law have to say on this :-) Landirenzo (talk) 14:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Keshub died in 1884. By all means, 60 years has been passed since this photo was taken and it is in public domain by Indian Copyright Law. --GDibyendu (talk) 04:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

CONTENT DISPUTE: Meaning of Name
revised recent "Meaning of name" edit by 'Yvantanguy'. Reason - Disambiguation. The modern definitions, though exceedingly precise, do not find much mention and/or use in the old references and histories. In articles like Brahmo Samaj with strong orientation to history, the traditional ("archaic" is OK) meanings could be retained for consistency and to prevent conflict dispute. Landirenzo (talk) 12:19, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Meaning of name? it seems all right for now - no dispute, as long as Brahmo and Brahmo Samaj are separate pages. However it doesn't give a good lead-in to the article. (no zing)Yvantanguy (talk) 14:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * For yvantanguy. recent edits, reverts. The section is now synthetic (too many differing sources). It is unclear what you intend conveying to first time visitors who know nothing about the Brahmo Samaj. You are also likely to initiate content dispute with your fellow Brahmo editors. For instance, Supreme Spirit, Supreme Being. Universe. Landirenzo (talk) 09:08, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Have tried to synthesize it more seamlessly. Actually half the problem here arises from the introduction to this article. Would appreciate your assistance. Yvantanguy (talk) 11:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

 * It would not be ethical for me to assist only you. Be patient, the articles will mature in time. Diversity of inputs is what makes Encyclopedia. Let the articles flow (or meander) where they will, Nature (natural process) is self regulating. Co-exist with your fellow editors, be tolerant, allow non-Brahmos and un-Brahmos to share this Maya. Stick to Reliable Sources. Abide by Wiki Policies. The introductions to Brahmo Samaj and Brahmoism are improved significantly. Brahmo is the laggard now. Distinctions, if any, between the Adi and Sadharan streams need clarification, till then the Doctrine Template remains. Landirenzo (talk) 03:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
A recent editor B.Nambiar is repeatedly undoing here and at Brahmoism, Ram Mohan Roy without discussing. He appears to be upset with the sources being cited for this article. He may leave his comments here citing his own sources if he has any. Yvantanguy (talk) 10:30, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Try attempting to focus on the content of the edits rather than the editor. Your fabrication and misrepresentation of source concerning Judeo-Islamic elements in Brahmoism, with the additional claim that Judeo-Christian elements are somehow scientific is OR. I have looked through the disputable source, the main website, and it does not mention these elements. KBN (talk) 10:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Did I misrepresent the source? Actually the source says Hebrew - Islamic "creed and practice". So I apologise, Hebrew is not exactly the same as Jewish, maybe there are some subtle differences which I am ignorant of? Furthermore all this is there in many RS also (Not OR) such as 1924 speech of Sir Brajendranath Seal and books of Farquhar, Ghosh, Ganguly, David Knopf etc. Brahmo Historian Sivanath Sastri states with certainty that for all practical purposes R.M.Roy lived as a Muslim (Islam). R.M.Roy's awakening against Hindu evils was on Islamic foundation of monothheism and discipline - please read up on the man. The term "scientific" is repeatedly used for Brahmoism (not only in the reference website), say by Indians like Jayant Narlikar, B.N.Seal, Acharya J.C.Bose etc. and not only by foreigners. BTW I have never claimed that either Judiaism is scientific or Christianity is either. What was added (by me or another) is that common (compatible with reformed Hinduism) Judeo-Islamic elements were incorprated into Brahmoism "scientifically" - there is a big difference, please do not distort my words. Yvantanguy (talk) 11:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Further to the above, whereas I also do not always agree with that website, I shall locate the sources for those remarks (Judeo-Islamic) and cite them for you. Kindly do not revert my undo till then. You may also see WP:CITE where a general citation is usually sufficient (which I had given). On challenge a "specific" in-line citation can be given - which right I am asserting. Yvantanguy (talk) 11:53, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

It is ridiculous to see the word scientific thrown in with Judaism or Islam in the form of "scientifically invigorating", but I now see this description of in a small section on the side of the page, though I don't believe the webpage qualifies as a reliable source. I also hope you do not add any prejudiced statements like "Hindu evils" into the article. KBN (talk) 11:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Dear Nambiar, I shall not dignify your remarks with a reply today. Kindly cool off - like me. I reiterate that by saying "reflecting its non-syncretic foundation on reformed spiritual Hinduism invigorated by scientific blending of compatible Judeo-Islamic faith and practice" this does not logically imply that I am saying that Judaism or Islam are "scientific", they may very well be - but I am not saying it since it is not relevant to this issue. The website is reasonably factual and is a compromise for all warring Brahmo factions. Every document there is 3rd party (like Parliamentary proceedings on Hindu Code Bill, or Supreme Court Judgemnts etc.  - do you dispute that also?). If you have problems with Christian sources like Farquhar (he was YMCA Christian missionary) etc. please cite alternatives, otherwise we shall have to rely on W.M.Carey, Marshman etc. who are "prejudiced" unlike me. Yvantanguy (talk) 12:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

But you have replied?. I feel there are more accurate ways to describe an incorporation of Judeo-Islamic elements into a faith than this "scientifically invigorated by inclusion of root Hebraic - Islamic creed and practice." What is the difference between saying that a religion is scientifically invigorated by elements of other religions rather than just saying that the religion includes elements of other religions?, it can be considered an opinion and therefore to be attributed to the owner of this opinion. Be aware that this difference in presenting content has the potential to mislead. KBN (talk) 13:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Put it within quotes and move on. Relata refero (disp.) 14:30, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I agree with User:Relata_refero. It is (almost exactly) a quote from the brahmosamaj.org website. I shall insert exactly what is on the website so there is no doubt it is a quote. It is the official website for Brahmo religionists, and as moderate (reasonable) as such religious websites can be. Yvantanguy (talk) 14:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

 * On going through the history logs for this article, I want to clarify that my last edit setting out the "quote" from the website was not to my mind a "revert". (In any case I am chilling out for next 24 hours and not editing any Brahmoism related article at WP, but shall do cinema instead). Can some helpful user / admin assist us all on this issue though for future guidance. A User has challenged a general statement (originally stated as "fact" and unquoted) in this article on Brahmo Samaj that "It is without doubt the most influential socio-religious movement in the evolution of Modern (Greater) India.". At the end of the short para where this statement is contained there was a citation for Mr.Farquahar's book with title, year, edition and page no. To further accomodate this User (when he said POV) a second specific in-line reference (using ref tag pair) for the disputed statement is added at the spot. The User is still dissatisfied and insists on adding quotation marks prefixed as "According to J.N.Farquhar ...", and the existing in-line reference is not deleted but retained. The User demonstrably has no objection to treating Mr.Farquhar as a RS for religious matters Indian, he is just unhappy with this particular statement of Mr.Farquhar in a Public Domain book of 1915 - which he wants to be balanced. Similarly this User is dissatisfied with another quote equally well cited in the article from the official Brahmo Samaj website. He initially denied that there is any such quote. Then he admits it was there tucked away in some small corner but now states it is "opinion with potential to mislead" and starts arguing with me (why me?) that it could be better presented - while not presenting any RS or citation of his own to contradict this disputed statement. My Query: I'm sure that this is a very common situation in religious articles at WP, what is the advice for new WP editors to deal with it? The context for this is also that there is lots of unsourced "fact" on this article some of it from very old edits, which can be challenged ("nit-picked") by anyone, So does every fact on this page need a RS which has to be set out in quotations naming the author in the body text in controversial religious articles? Yvantanguy (talk) 15:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yvantanguy is quoting sources which are not reliable. The Brahmo Samaj.org is a bogus site put up by a section of the Brahmo Samaj propbaly the same poeple who are now propagating here. When one puts up material on one's own website and quotes it here, it is not a reliable source. KBN has a point and that should be accommodated. - Poor Henry (talk) 22:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Dear Poor Henry, I have no love for the website. You may proceed to delete whatever I added to the disputed section by my edit of 6th April 2008 at 12:28 which is from this website. It originally read as

 * "Brahmo Samaj (Bengali ব্রাহ্ম সমাজ Bramho Shômaj) is a component of Brahmoism which culminated in the Brahmo religion. It is also the influential social movement in the evolution of Modern (Greater) India. It was conceived as reformation of the prevailing Bengal of the time and began the Bengal Renaissance of the 19th century.", I altered this to

 * "Brahmo Samaj (Bengali ব্রাহ্ম সমাজ Bramho Shômaj) is the societal component of Brahmoism which culminates as the Brahmo religion. It is without doubt the most influential socio-religious movement in the evolution of Modern (Greater) India. It was conceived as reformation of the prevailing Bengal of the time and began the Bengal Renaissance of the 19th century pioneering all religious, social and educational advance of the Hindu community in the 19th century . From the Brahmo Samaj springs Brahmoism the most recent of legally recognised religions in India and Bangladesh, reflecting its foundation on reformed spiritual Hinduism with vital elements of Judeo-Islamic faith and practice. "

 * You may note that I had then added 2 (acceptable to Wiki policy) citations to the previously uncited / unsupported introduction to this article. I could equally allege that you (a newly created identity) may also be behind that website. If you have some justification for your allegation, please cite it. Yvantanguy (talk) 03:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Amitdas04 a newly created account has had some edits reverted by me in this and another linked article. The reasons for these are:- substituting the external link to a working website http://www.brahmosamaj.org by another non-functional website. Inserting dubious doctrine (in a section tagged as Disputed). Inserting dubious definitions for Brahmoism on the page for Brahmo adherents, etc. Landirenzo (talk) 14:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Hmmm, 2 hours later the substituted link http://thebrahmosamaj.net is functional. I observe that the site contains copyright material previously hosted on http://thebrahmosamaj.org (with copyright assertion) some of which identical material is also on the substituted external link http://brahmosamaj.org (but with GFDL). Here is an image link to the last cached screenshot of http://thebrahmosamaj.org and deceptively similar to http://thebrahmosamaj.net http://source.domaintools.com/thumbnail.pgif?version=1&username=magichans&key=ghqfv-81528-nwonz-58583-sxjkf&url=thebrahmosamaj.org&size=10

which .org domain is currently registered to "3D Acquisitions". Landirenzo (talk) 15:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

 * The http://brahmosamaj.org now displays the following
 * NOTICE
 * The editors of the website are shocked to learn on 10-April-2008 that original material from this website is being used by commercial websites to solicit money for international con-artists and donations from the public and also mislead them to pornographic and other unsuitable places. The public at large is cautioned against such fake websites, and urged not to be deceived. An illustrative list of such unsuitable websites is as follows
 * http://brahmo.org
 * http://thebrahmosamaj.org
 * http://adibrahmosamaj.org
 * http://sadharanbrahmosamaj.org
 * An emergency meeting of editorial board is being convened to authorise the nominees to take requisite action against such websites including legal measures to protect all copyright and intellectual property of Brahmo Samaj and Brahmo religion.
 * This website is not a commercial website, but solely for authentic dissemination of unbiased information on Brahmoism. We neither solicit nor accept money from the public or organisation or State, either directly or indirectly. It is further clarified that Brahmos are not required to make donations on religious occasions. Payment of annual subscription fee (approx. Rs.100 which is the minimum amount specified by law in India) to a Samaj is optional and does not affect one's religious status as Brahmo. Donations solicited for idolatry etc. are antiBrahmo. 69.50.160.154 (talk) 03:53, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Number of adherents
It’s really hard to believe that this religion has almost 8 million adherents, if only 177 persons declared themselves a "Brahmo". On top of that, their history in the article ends 70 years ago… 82.35.81.189 (talk) 23:18, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Brahmoism legal recognition
This article claims that Brahmoish is the most recent legally recognized religion of India, but I can't find anything on it anywhere else. The sources there seem to be dead. Can anyone link an actual source that Brahmoism was ever legally recognized as a religion in India? 103.170.182.115 (talk) 02:54, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

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Welcome by the way to WikiProject Mathematics. That page, and expecially its talk page are where all the math-related talk on Wikipedia takes place. There is also a list of participants to sign on. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov 15:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Cheating in Counter-Strike
Oops. Brain fart on my part. Misread which change he'd made and just undid it. Gah, I hate Mondays. Thanks for correcting. --Habap 13:38, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Coplanar
Hi someone42, could you explain what the hat means in this article? Does it mean make into a unit vector?--MarSch 13:45, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

RuneScape fansites
Hi. Thanks for dropping me a line. I've been wondering about this for a few days, especially after trying to wrangle the people who keep either replacing other fansites with their own or moving "high traffic" ones to "medium traffic".

I'm not entirely sure that we need to have any of them. I know it would be helpful to have them for the RuneScape players who come here, but in my opinion external links are mostly supposed to be items that support things said in the article or items that would be included in the article but aren't for space considerations.

IMO to erase bias totally all of them would have to be removed. However, I'll take a look at lunch and see if any is a clear paragon of fansites...because I think that one or two may indeed make the article more informative. If you could do the same when you have time, maybe we can make a short list and put it on the talk page for comment. We could be bold (and erase them without comment), but I'd at least like to try and get a consensus. :) --Syrthiss 14:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Well, I took a look and realized I kind of have a problem: I don't play RuneScape so I have a hard time judging these sites. :(
 * My random feeling on the matter is that I'd prefer one of the forums and one of the dynamic sig places (http://www.runescapecommunity.com/ and whatever). We likely don't need the dutch or russian fansites on an english-wikipedia.

 * You have any thoughts? --Syrthiss 02:54, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

 * (per discussion on my talk page) Ok, though that I would have to leave up to you. I don't know anything about portals. :/  Heh I also realized that you have been editing here about 2 months longer than I have.  I should be coming to you with questions =D.--Syrthiss 16:46, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Reply
Have you actually viewed the discussion page on that subject? I've interacted on it a considerable amount of times, if you cared to look. - Deathrocker 16:34, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Emo (slang)
Yeah, he's interacted on it, but he usually offered points that have nothing to do with the discussion at hand, then refers to the people who disagree with him as "vandals".

I'm disappointed that you think I'm not discussing the disputes. You should read the Talk:Emo (slang) article in more detail. Half of that page is me trying to explain my position.

The problem in the article is that Deathrocker holds a minority position about "emo" - that "emo" only describes the emo of the 80s and nothing else, that modern emo is "nu emo" - and keeps editing the article to reflect that position. Several of us have tried to point out that his position is not reflected in verifiable articles, but he doesn't care and simply reverts our edits. (He also believes that "goth" only describes the movement of the 80s, that people in the 90s who called themselves "goth" were misusing the term. So any time someone talks about "goth" in a context outside the 80s, he removes it.)

Actually, the real problem is that he won't allow us to modify his content, even if we provide an explanation. He's been blocked twice in the past week for violating the three revert rule. I'll concede that I was given a half-long block for violating the same rule, but I didn't realize intially that Deathrocker was anything other than a vandal. His first edit of the article removed two full paragraphs without any explanation. -- ChrisB 20:38, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

User:203.206.164.123
The Whois inquiry came back that it's an allocated portable IP. Unless you have other information that indicates that that is wrong... --Nlu (talk) 06:45, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It's "allocated portable" whatever that means, I just checked it myself. Australia. Further reply is on my talk page but please no more comments to me as I'm off to bed. If he strikes again and his edits are clear vandalism then please post again on the board as you did before. Cheers. --kingboyk 07:55, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

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Greatest Hits (Ice Cube album)

Greatest Hits is a compilation album by American rapper Ice Cube. It was released on December 4, 2001. It compiles 17 of Ice Cube's most well-known songs. Two songs were exclusive to the album, "$100 Bill Y'all" and "In the Late Night Hour".

Commercial performance
The album debuted on #54 on the US Billboard 200 with first week sales of 68,000 copies.

Track listing

 * 1) "Pushin' Weight" (featuring Mr. Short Khop)
 * 2) "Check Yo Self" [Remix] (featuring Das EFX)
 * 3) *Contains samples from "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash & "Ready to Die" by The Notorious B.I.G.
 * 4) "We Be Clubbin'
 * 5) *Contains a sample from "More Bounce to the Ounce" by Zapp
 * 6) "$100 Bill Y'all"
 * 7) *Released as a single, which peaked at #67 on the US Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop chart.
 * 8) "Once Upon a Time in the Projects"
 * 9) *Contains sample from "Cop Him" by Betty Davis
 * 10) "Bow Down" (with Westside Connection)
 * 11) *Contains sample from "Tell Me" by Groove Theory
 * 12) "Hello" (featuring MC Ren & Dr. Dre)
 * 13) "You Can Do It" (featuring Mack 10 & Ms. Toi)
 * 14) *Contains sample from "Planet Rock" by Afrika Bambaataa
 * 15) "You Know How We Do It"
 * 16) *Contains samples from "The Show Is Over" by Evelyn Champagne King, "Hung Up On My Baby" by Isaac Hayes, "Billie Jean" by Michael Jackson & "Summer Madness" by Kool & The Gang
 * 17) "It Was a Good Day"
 * 18) *Contains samples from "Footsteps In the Dark" by The Isley Brothers, "Come On Sexy Mama" by The Moments, "Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk (Pay Attention- B3M)" by Parliament & "Let's Do It Again" by Staple Singers
 * 19) "Bop Gun (One Nation)" [Radio Edit] (featuring George Clinton)
 * 20) *Contains interpolation from "One Nation Under A Groove" by Funkadelic & a sample from "Bop Gun (Endangered Species)" by Parliament
 * 21) "What Can I Do?" [Remix]
 * 22) *Contains sample from "More Bounce To the Ounce" by Zapp
 * 23) "My Summer Vacation"
 * 24) *Contains sample from "Atomic Dog" by George Clinton & "So Ruff, So Tuff" by Roger Troutman
 * 25) "Steady Mobbin'"
 * 26) *Contains samples from "Reach Out" by Average White Band, "Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk (Pay Attention- B3M)" and "Theme From the Black Hole" by Parliament, "Love Amnesia" by Parlet & "After the Dance" by Marvin Gaye
 * 27) "Jackin' for Beats"
 * 28) *Contains samples from "Buzz Saw" by The Turtles, "More Bounce to the Ounce" by Zapp, "Bop Gun (Endangered Species)" by Parliament, "The Humpty Dance" by Digital Underground, "If it Don't Turn You on (You Outta Leave it Alone)" by B.T. Express, "It's A Man's Man's Man's World", "Cold Sweat", "The Payback", "Funky President" and "Funky Drummer" all by James Brown, "I Know You Got Soul" and "Hot Pants" by Bobby Byrd, "Sing A Simple Song" by Sly & The Family Stone, "Ashley's Roachclip" by Soul Searchers, "Bon Bon Vie" by T.S. Monk, "Psychedelic Shack" by The Temptations, "Hector" by The Village Callers, "Big Beat" by Billy Squier, "So What Cha Sayin" by EPMD & "The Haunted House" by Disney
 * 29) "The Nigga Ya Love to Hate"
 * 30) *Contains samples from "Atomic Dog" by George Clinton & "Weak At the Knees" by Steve Arrington
 * 31) "Late Night Hour" (featuring Pusha T)
 * 32) *Contains re-sung elements from "Fuck tha Police" & "Straight Outta Compton" by N.W.A

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Date of birth
Your attention is drawn to this report on WP:ERRORS by : "wow, just wow, an FA! The one and only source for her birth date implies she was born on 31 March". Per WP:V and WP:BLPSOURCES, please do not change it without a high-quality reliable source. It is unacceptable that such unverified claims on living people exist in a featured article - if this is typical of the article's factual accuracy, we should raise a FA review and get it thoroughly re-checked, or delisted. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Don't be an arse, no need for that tone. This has had a lot of thought gone into it, though I've not looked at it much over the last ten years! I'm sure will answer this one.♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:14, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

 * I'm sorry, I don't understand what tone problems there are above (unless you're talking about TRM's comment, in which case he'll answer for himself) - but WP:BLPSOURCES is one of the most serious policies we must adhere to - we have to get the article right. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  14:15, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Twitter she's been celebrating her birthday.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:09, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

 * Thanks Blof, for stepping in. The mistake was on the Tribune article, not on this page. Mistakes happen, and I might have missed it. I obviously know for a fact that today is her birthday (from interviews and other stuff) but a proper source was just added. Twitter of course shows her celebrating with her friends and thanking her fans and followers for their birthday wishes, which is another piece of evidence. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  19:14, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

 * Thanks for that, Sahid. I was having difficulty determining which date was right, and frustrated that people were just reverting without supplying an additional source. Unfortunately the confusion has meant she couldn't be featured on the main page today. :-( Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  22:09, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Recent removal of content
User:Melcous removed sourced content which had been discussed by numerous editors before, without discussing it. Sourced content was removed, and sources were removed as well. If anything, the lead is a summary and not a review, it takes into consideration Zinta's work as discussed later on in the article, and not her achievements as suggested by Melcous. The information that was removed includes: The article has been copyedited by numerous editors, and the relevance of each piece of information was observed before it was finally included. As you can see, it is well-balanced. If there's disagreement, that's why we have this talk page for. Such massive removal of content must be discussed first, particularly considering the fact that its inclusion is nothing but pure consensus - going through the FAC, the archives of this very talk page, might help. We had a similar debate on Talk:Rani Mukerji with, the writer of several BLP featured articles on actresses, and I'd take this opportunity to call his attention to this page as well, as this seems to be quite uncalled-for practice by some users off late. Shahid •  Talk 2 me  14:54, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * "After graduating with degrees in English honours and criminal psychology" - why is that wrong?
 * The mention of some films being "top-grossing production" and one being her biggest commercial success, is nothing but an objective representation of facts, which are properly sourced.
 * "she is a social activist, a television presenter, and a regular stage performer" - a fair description of additional work she has done.
 * "These controversies include her being the only witness not to retract in court her earlier statements against the Indian mafia during the 2003 Bharat Shah case, for which she was awarded the Godfrey Phillips National Bravery Award." - a highly publicized case which was, at the time, reported all over the Indian and the international press.
 * A tag was added for the claim that "her film roles along with her screen persona have been credited with contributing to a change in the concept of a Hindi film heroine, and won her several accolades" - if you look at the "Media image and artistry" section, you will see proper references to who exactly said it - critics' reviews of her impact appear in that section, quotes from books and media reports. One such example is the book 'Once Upon a Time in Bollywood', according to which Zinta "resists patriarchal constraints through her modern lifestyle and the controversial roles she chooses." There's no doubt that since then, actresses like Vidya Balan have raised the bar even further, but her work seems to have contributed to this change in the long run.
 * "These accomplishments have established her as a leading actress of Hindi cinema" - I wonder why it's considered a problem if it's backed up by sources - should Wikipedia be apologetic in view of actors' success? Success is not a bad word, if its use is justified and supported by reliable sources, I can't see why mentioning it is a problem (as long as it's overused). Take another FA, Angelina Jolie, which says, "As a public figure, Jolie has been cited as one of the most influential and powerful people in the American entertainment industry. For a number of years, she was cited as the world's most beautiful woman by various media outlets, and her personal life is the subject of wide publicity." - I see nothing which is subjective there, these are actual facts.
 * The Early life section had been trimmed and shortened prior to the FAC. The information of Zinta's childhood is very much relevant in a biographical page about her.
 * The addition of the peacock tag is in my book pure wikilawyering. There isn't a single instance where the article makes independent claims, which are not attributed to secondary sources. Even critics' reviews are used to the most objective effect - the article shows such remarks where critics describe her as a "teenybopper", an "ornament", "insufferable", and "a shadow of her past". It even mentions a "marked period of decline in her popularity" (which perhaps should be mentioned in the lead as well).

 * Absolutely, Shahid. You have my full support. This culture of tagging and removing well-cited information from articles is very harmful. There's a reason why a process such as the FAC exists, and editors must exhibit caution when they go on a cutting spree. Of course there is scope for improvement, but it needs to be constructive; the talk page exists for that very reason. Do these editors really think that adding tags help in any way?
 * Coming to Zinta, I'm in agreement with your restorations, Shahid. This article has been a gold-standard for most of us who work on Indian film-related articles, and as a young editor many moons ago, it set a template for me to expand articles of Zinta's contemporaries, several of which are now FAs. As for the issues highlighted, I have to opine that this article is neutrally written, that Zinta did achieve the highest praise and fame that an actress in India could achieve in the 2000s, and that both Mukerji and Zinta were responsible for more urbane, modern representation of Indian women on screen, which the article rightfully says "go against Indian traditional mores". All of which has been verified by multiple WP:RS.
 * As Shahid pointed out above, yes, there has been a significant decline in her popularity since 2007 due to the blatant sexism and ageism against so-called "older" women in the industry, but that doesn't take away from the significant achievements of Zinta in the early 2000s. Anyway, I hope that this matter can now be resolved, and that we can all find better a use of our time on Wikipedia -- which is to say we expand articles and not tag and butcher the already expanded, FA-class ones.
 * P.S: Shahid, I must add that I'm repeatedly surprised at your ability to handle difficult situations with such remarkable patience. Very inspiring, indeed. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:18, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

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Addition
Dear Lectonar I work as an agency representative of Preity Zinta. So she had personally requested to make these changes to her wikipedia pagePriety Zinta but these changes keep getting reverted:

These changes are requested by her :

1. | image = New Priety Zinta by Abhishek Pate.jpg | caption           = PrietyZinta in 2019

2. Following Heaven on Earth, Preity Zinta was highest-paid actress till 2008, when she decided to take a break from cinema/acting and into sports business by investing in a cricket team in Indian premier league.

3. Subhash K Jha of Times of India magazine called the film Goofy Zany and Outrageously Fun (Following a five-year sabbatical, Zinta starred opposite Sunny Deol as an aggressive Varanasi-based wife in Neeraj Pathak's action comedy Bhaiaji Superhit (2018). Subhash K Jha of Times of India magazine called the film Goofy Zany and Outrageously Fun )

4. ===Selected filmography===
 * Krrish (2006)
 * Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna (2006)
 * Jaan-E-Mann (2006)
 * Jhoom Barabar Jhoom (2007)
 * Om Shanti Om (2007)
 * The Last Lear (2008)
 * Heroes (2008 film) (2008)
 * Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi (2008)
 * Heaven on Earth (2008 film) (2008)
 * Main Aurr Mrs Khanna (2009)
 * Ishkq in Paris (2013)
 * Happy Ending (film) (2014)
 * Kaadhal Vennila (2016)
 * Ivan Oru Thunichalkaran (2017)
 * Bhaiaji Superhit (2018)

}}
 * As I have been contacted by User:KevinThomas71293 on my talk-page, I find it appropriate to move the request here. I have no knowledge of the subject. Lectonar (talk) 07:34, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Change Infobox Image And Caption
The Infobox has an outdated image of Priety Zinta.

As per her request she wants the following change:

Old Image
 * image             = Preity Zinta by Ash Gupta.jpg

To

 * image             = Priety_Zinta_2019.jpg

Old Caption
 * caption           = Zinta in 2018

To

 * caption           = Preity Zinta in 2019

Main image
Apologies, I thought Shahid had been reverted. I do think the older image is more suitable though.† Encyclopædius  14:21, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Goodenough
User:Shshshsh Yesterday I removed information about Goodenough's profession because this page is not about him. It was restored by someone else and the info about his earlier connection with Zinta was added by someone else. But you deleted the information about how he connected with Zinta. If you are dedicated to removing 'irrelevant' info, then this blatant distraction about his profession needs to be removed first. 122.170.61.84 (talk) 12:12, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It is not blatant distraction - his occupation is very much relevant - we're presenting her husband and his basic background. Him having an opinion about Zinta's earlier controversy is not. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  12:30, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It is distraction because he is not notable thus any details about him unrelated to the main subject violate WP:DUE. Your reasoning about calling the coverage he got by reliable sources for being a witness in a report filed by Zinta sounds nothing more than WP:JDL. 122.170.61.84 (talk) 12:39, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * First, consensus must be reached before information that has been here for years is removed and similarly, when contentious information is added, so I thank you for reverting yourself and for starting this discussion. No, it's not a case of JDL at all, but a matter of WP:DUE. It is relevant who her husband is and what his occupation is, that's very basic. By constrast, it is not relevant where they met and that he was a witness somewhere as it adds no value (the first reaction it evokes is "so?") - their history together is more suitable for magazines. Although maybe it's a matter of wording and we could incorporate it somehow without making it sound out of place. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  13:17, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * And what do you suggest? The IP is certainly correct that the person in the question has been significantly covered "by reliable sources for being a witness in a report" and this is precisely why I included the info. While your reaction would be "so?", my reaction would be "oh he was already well known to Preity Zinta before the marriage". In shorter words, I say this information is more important than his profession. AnM2002 (talk) 05:56, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you have any doubt she knew him before the marriage? I can give you many other things he was significantly covered for which do not merit a mention here. I see someone's removed the fact he was her "longtime boyfriend" and that could first settle your question. As for him being a witness, well, if they were together at the time then it's merely obvious, unless it was where and how they first met, which would be meaningful and I believe it's not the case. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  15:58, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

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José Chávez y Chávez

José Coby Frey Chávez y Chávez (1851–1924) was a Mexican-American outlaw from the New Mexican Territory, which is now the state of New Mexico, in the United States. He was said to be the son of a Spanish father and Apache mother. Chávez became an outlaw at a relatively young age when he joined the Lincoln County Regulators.

Early life
José Chávez y Chávez was born in 1851 in Ceboleta, New Mexico. Little is known about his childhood. He briefly worked as a laborer, but discovered that honest labor was difficult. He gradually drifted from petty theft to cattle rustling.

Lincoln County Wars
Chávez joined the Regulators in his twenties, having already committed a number of small robberies and other crimes, and would prove useful to Billy the Kid's gang. Together with Billy the Kid, Doc Scurlock, Charlie Bowdre, and the rest of the Regulators, Chávez engaged in the Lincoln County War that lasted from 1878 to 1879.

Chávez met Billy the Kid, Jim French, Fred Waite, Charlie Bowdre, John Middleton, and Tom O'Folliard after he decided to join the Tunstall-McSween group in their war against the Dolan group. Inside the Tunstall-McSween group, another group was formed, to try to give the Tunstall-McSween group an edge over the Dolans. The "Regulators", as they were known, were 45 gunfighters that included Chávez. At some point of his tenure as a member of the Regulators, he became good friends with Billy the Kid and Jim French.

On February 18, 1878, John Tunstall was shot and murdered. On April 1 of the same year, Lincoln sheriff William J. Brady, a Dolan backer, was killed by Billy the Kid's gang. Chávez credited himself with this killing. Eventually, more killings from both sides followed, leading to the burning of the McSween home on July 19, 1878. Fourteen people lived at the house, including McSween and his wife, as well as twelve cowboys. Six people died in the fire, but every member of Billy the Kid's gang was able to escape.

Post-war
By March 1879, New Mexico Governor Lew Wallace began a fight against crime in that territory, and one of his priorities was to stop the ongoing war between the Dolans and the Tunstall-McSween backers. With this in mind, Wallace formed the Lincoln County Mounted Rifles, a group of which Chávez became a member, as a private. The "Mounted Rifles" failed in their purpose, however, and the group lasted only about three months, a period during which Chávez remained with Billy the Kid's gang.

Chávez allegedly testified alongside Billy the Kid in court to try to implicate the US Army in connection to the burning of the McSween house, and the subsequent deaths that occurred during the fires. It is believed that in 1880, Chávez murdered a dangerous convict in a New Mexico jail.

Chávez became adrift after Billy the Kid's death in 1881, traveling across the American Southwest, sometimes without any particular destination in mind. He did arrive at Las Vegas, New Mexico, in time to meet Bob Ford, the killer of Jesse James. According to legend the two had agreed to a shooting game between them. Ford was so impressed with Chávez's shooting abilities, that he fled immediately after he was asked to have a duel against Chávez.

Chávez eventually became a deputy sheriff, but he allegedly was not able to leave his life as an outlaw. He became friends with Vicente Silva and joining Silva's two gangs, including Las Gorras Blancas ("The White Caps"), a group that was considered by many Anglos (English speaking settlers) to be a bandit group, and by most Native New Mexican Hispanos to be freedom fighters. Silvas' other group, the "Bandits Society," was accused by Anglo immigrants to New Mexico Territory as operating much like a mafia, trying to make profits by forcing people out of their properties.

1890s
Vicente Silva ordered the killing of Patricio Maes, which was carried out on October 22, 1892 by José, Eugenio Alarid and Julian Trujillo. In February 1893, the group was ordered to kill Silva's brother in law, Gabriel Sandoval, out of fear that he was privy to the murder and was going to inform the police. Gabriel Sandoval's death backfired on Silva, when his wife became concerned about the whereabouts of her brother. Silva ordered Chávez, Alarid and Trujillo to murder his wife, and the three men became worried about Silva's mental state. While digging a grave for Silva's wife, the trio decided they were going to kill him as well. When Silva brought his wife's body to the burial site, the trio shot and killed him, and buried them in the same grave.

The following year in 1894, a man was arrested for the Maes murder, and implicated Chávez, Alarid, and Trujillo in the murder of Gabriel Sandoval. In April 1894, Alarid and Trujillo were both arrested, tried, and sentenced to life in prison for the murder. Chávez became aware of the arrests and became a fugitive, with a $500 bounty on his head. He was eventually arrested on May 26, 1894 in Socorro, New Mexico. A jury found him guilty, and he was sentenced to death by hanging. Chávez was granted a retrial by the territorial supreme court, and was yet again handed the death sentence. This decision was later overturned by Governor Otero, who felt compelled to commute Chávez's sentence to life in prison instead; given the publicity that his case garnered, and the public's pressure towards the Government to spare his life at the time. On November 23, 1897, José Chávez y Chávez entered the Territorial Penitentiary as inmate #1089, and he remained there until the age of 57.

20th century
On January 11, 1909, at the age of 57, Governor George Curry pardoned Chávez after serving only 11 years. The pardon was the result of his assistance he had given to prison guards during a riot. After being released from prison, he returned to Las Vegas. He spent the remaining 15 years of his life among his friends, and led a relatively quiet life.

Death
In 1924 at the age of 72, Chávez died peacefully in his bed by the side of his friend Liberato Baca. Baca was possibly the only man to face Chávez in a gunfight and live to tell about it. His resting place is at a small cemetery in Milagro, Guadalupe County, New Mexico.

Popular culture

 * In the 1988 movie, Young Guns, and its 1990 sequel, Young Guns II, Chávez was portrayed by Lou Diamond Phillips. In the sequel, and contrary to actual history, Chávez is portrayed as mixed Mexican/Navajo. His last scene in the movie leads the viewer to believe that he dies as a result of a gunshot wound from an encounter with Pat Garrett and his hunting party.
 * Chávez is also the name of a character in the video game GUN.

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