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Dai Miao (temple)
Dai Miao is probably important enough to warrant its own article. I've never been, nor have I really read much on it. Somebody with a knowledge of the temple should remove the redirects and write it (then link to it from this article). Bobak 02:22, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I'll second this. If the Dai Miao doesn't get its own article, it should at least be mentioned in the opening blurb of this article, because I was astonished to be redirected as I was. LW izard  @ 07:46, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

 * As a temporary fix (some 2 years after the complaint was lodged) I have set the redirect to jump to the correct section within the article. Mutt (talk) 06:14, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Extensive plagiarism?!?
Hi there.

I've just noticed that virtually all of the content on this page is directly lifted from http://www.mount-tai.com.cn/en/index.html

In the page's history, the major change is from this version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mount_Tai&oldid=11921363 to this version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mount_Tai&direction=next&oldid=11921363

The editor (username=RolfMueller) labels this edit a "complete re-write." Is there any way to verify the veracity of this claim? How can we know if mount-tai.com plagiarized wikipedia or vice-versa?

Not sure what to do about this.

142.165.169.10 (talk) 22:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

 * It's hard to know which one came first. The English at the Chinese site on Mount Tai is too good. I've never seen a Chinese-based site using such flawless English.

 * If you look here, you can see something closer to what you might expect: . Pretty good, but still not very natural (e.g., "It's a precious cultural heritage of Chinese nation.")

 * So my suspicion is that the Chinese site has copied from Wikipedia. Or perhaps Rolf Mueller took the original text from the Chinese site, cleaned it up and rewrote it, and put it on Wikipedia. It was then copied back to the Chinese site. Far fetched? Maybe. But unless you can go back and see what the Chinese site was when Rolf Mueller 'rewrote' the article, it's hard to know who did the plagiarising. Why don't you ask Rolf Mueller?

 * Bathrobe (talk) 02:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

translation of "Tai Shan Bei Dou"
Part of the article says "'泰山北斗' (lit. Mount Tai & Northern Fight)"

I don't think the translation is accurate. I think the "北斗" ("Bei Dou") refers to the northern star 北斗星 (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8C%97%E6%96%97%E6%98%9F). The entire expression refers to the steadfast unchanging nature of Mount Tai and the Northern Star (cf. Shakespeare: "constant as the northern star") and is used to describe leaders of the community, role models, large historical organizations such as the Shaolin monks, etc.

I note that 斗 "dou" also happens to be the Simplified Chinese word for 鬥 "dou", which means fight, but I don't think it's used in this context. It's less confusing in Chinese writing that uses the Traditional writing, where "tai shan bei dou" is still written 泰山北斗, using the 斗 even though 鬥 is a valid word. In this case it literally means a sort of measuring cup, i.e. "northern scoop" (as in the constellation, Big Dipper). In fact, in Cantonese 斗 is pronounced differently from 鬥, and I have yet to hear any Cantonese speaker say 泰山北鬥.

Can anyone confirm or refute this? Wiki88V (talk) 20:42, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Famous people's calligraphy on Mount Tai
One of the Hui Muslim General Ma Fuxiang's works in Chinese calligraphy was auctioned at Christies, a rending of the Chinese character for "Tiger". The Lot Notes states that Mount Tai's Jade Emperor Peak also has one of his calligraphic works located there.

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/paintings/ma-fuxiang-one-stroke-tiger-5347715-details.aspx

Rajmaan (talk) 21:51, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

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Would you like more pictures of Mount Tai?

I have some beautiful original pictures that I took of Mount Tai when I lived out there in China around 2015 learning kung fu. I would be happy to contribute them to Wikipedia, they are of excellent quality. If anyone can provide some guidance on how to properly suggest additional images be added (specifically, of the sunrise and the surrounding peaks that poke out above the clouds, and more pictures of the hike up) I would love to add them. My sincerest gratitude to you all for producing such a high-quality article about this beautiful and sacred place.

Edit: I actually figured out how to upload files, just would like to learn the proper method for suggesting their inclusion in the article.

Keshav Saharia (talk) 20:23, 20 November 2021 (UTC) Queshav

 * @Queshav I'm not sure if you still need help with this, but generally you can upload files directly to Wikimedia Commons or Wikipedia, and then add them in the article yourself. No need to ask. The tutorial is at WP:PIC, you can just copy one of the lines of code and edit the parameters, or you can use the Visual Editor and press the Insert > Images and media button at the top of the screen. Toadspike (talk) 15:01, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

"Leg" and "Leg Dynasty" mentioned, with no explanation as to what the heck that *is*??
Did there used to be a section introducing and explaining the term, or...??? As it stands now, the article is completely baffling on this point. 2001:569:BE5C:CC00:F2DE:F1FF:FE2F:EBFC (talk) 07:27, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

 * It's nonsense. That was vandalism that slipped through. Thanks for catching it. I deleted. JArthur1984 (talk) 12:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Really? Complete random nonsense? Mere vandalism? I would've though there'd be *some* explanation, in terms of some *intended* meaningful addition, just obscured by some translation failure or something like that..? 2001:569:BE5C:CC00:F2DE:F1FF:FE2F:EBFC (talk) 20:35, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

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Picture
Why is the article image a photo of a river? I don't get it. DarthCloakedGuy (talk) 13:00, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Arenal Volcano

Public Domain Images
I have uploaded three images of Arenal Volcano and released them to public domain. Forgive me if they belong in commons or somewhere else.

--Joslloyd 07:21, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Major eruption today - 25 May 2010. 61.9.246.247 (talk) 01:30, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

"The temperature varies from 9 °C (48 °F) in the high areas to 89 °C (192 °F) in the low areas..." should probably read "The temperature varies from 9 °C (48 °F) in the high areas to 32 °C (89 °F) in the low areas,,," — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.147.160 (talk) 22:16, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

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Does anyone know why the lake is green? --130.215.224.245 16:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Sulfur? ( fi ) 19:54, 8 October 2007 (UTC)---

The lake's waters have a pH value of 2. The stuff's essentially sulfuric acid, and nothing can live within a 10 foot radius around it. 216.236.163.39 (talk) 19:34, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

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1972 NHL amateur draft

The 1972 NHL Amateur Draft was the tenth NHL Entry Draft. It was held at the Queen Elizabeth Hotel in Montreal, Quebec.

The last active player in the NHL from this draft class was Richard Brodeur, who played his last NHL game in the 1987–88 season.

Selections by round
Below are listed the selections in the 1972 NHL amateur draft. The expansion Islanders won the first pick by a coin toss between themselves and the Flames.

Round one

 * 1) The Los Angeles Kings' first-round pick went to the Montreal Canadiens as the result of a trade on June 11, 1968, that sent Gerry Desjardins to Los Angeles in exchange for Los Angeles' 1969 first-round pick (Dick Redmond) and this pick.
 * In June 1969, the Montreal Canadiens' traded the 1969 first-round pick to the Minnesota North Stars in exchange for Minnesota's promised to Montreal that they would not draft Dick Duff in the 1969 intra-league draft.
 * 1) The California Golden Seals' first-round pick went to the Montreal Canadiens as the result of a trade on June 10, 1968, that sent Bryan Watson and cash to California in exchange for future considerations (Tom Thurlby trade completed in September 1968) and this pick.
 * 2) The Minnesota North Stars' first-round pick went to the Montreal Canadiens as the result of a trade on June 10, 1968, that sent Minnesota's first-round pick in 1972, cash and future considerations (Marshall Johnston trade completed on May 25, 1971) to Montreal in exchange for Danny Grant, Claude Larose and future considerations (Bob Murdoch trade completed on May 25, 1971).
 * The Pittsburgh Penguins' first-round pick went to the Minnesota North Stars as the result of a trade on October 1, 1968, that sent Pittsburgh's first-round pick in 1972 to Minnesota in exchange for Bob Woytowich.
 * The Montreal Canadiens received the lowest of Minnesota's two first-round pick.
 * 1) The Detroit Red Wings' first-round pick went to the New York Rangers as the result of a trade on May 24, 1972, that sent Gary Doak and Rick Newell to Detroit in exchange for Joe Zanussi and this pick.

Round two

 * 1) The Buffalo Sabres' second-round pick went to the New York Rangers as the result of a trade on January 14, 1972, that sent Jim Lorentz to Buffalo in exchange for this pick.
 * 2) The St. Louis Blues' second-round pick went to the Buffalo Sabres as the result of a trade on March 5, 1972, that sent Chris Evans to St. Louis in exchange for George Morrison and this pick.
 * 3) The Montreal Canadiens' second-round pick went to the California Golden Seals as the result of a trade on June 8, 1972, that sent Montreal's second-round pick in 1972 to California in exchange for California's first-round and second-round picks in 1973 as settlement of waiver draft payment owed from California to Montreal for California selecting Carol Vadnais in the  1968 intra-league draft.
 * Montreal previously acquired this pick as the result of a trade on May 24, 1971, that sent Montreal's first-round pick in 1972, Gary Gambucci and Bob Paradise to Minnesota in exchange for Minnesota's first-round pick in 1972, second-round pick in 1972 and cash.
 * The original trade between Montreal and California was on June 12, 1968, that sent California's first-round and second-round picks in 1973 to Montreal in exchange for the opportunity to select Carol Vadnais in the 1968 intra-league draft.
 * 1) The St. Louis Blues' second-round pick went to the Pittsburgh Penguins as the result of a trade on June 6, 1969, that sent Lou Angotti and Pittsburgh's first-round pick in 1971 to St. Louis (St. Louis selected Gene Carr) in exchange for Craig Cameron, Ron Schock and this pick.

Round five

 * 1) The Atlanta Flames' fifth-round pick went to the Montreal Canadiens as the result of a trade on June 7, 1972, that sent Ted Tucker and Montreal's fifth-round pick in 1972 to Atlanta in exchange for cash and this pick. Ted Tucker and Montreal's fifth-round pick in 1973.
 * 2) The Montreal Canadiens' fifth-round pick went to the Atlanta Flames as the result of a trade on June 7, 1972, that sent the Atlanta's fifth-round pick in 1972 (Bill Nyrop) and cash to Montreal in exchange for Ted Tucker and this pick.

Round seven

 * 1) The Buffalo Sabres' seventh-round pick went to the New York Islanders as the result of a trade on June 6, 1972, that the Islanders' promised to not take certain players in the 1972 NHL Expansion Draft in exchange for Buffalo's eight-round, ninth-round, tenth-round picks in the 1972 NHL Amateur Draft and this pick.

Round eight

 * 1) The Los Angeles Kings' eighth-round pick went to the Minnesota North Stars as the result of a trade on June 8, 1972, that sent Los Angeles' tenth-round pick in the 1972 NHL Amateur Draft and this pick to Minnesota in exchange for cash.
 * 2) The Buffalo Sabres' eighth-round pick went to the New York Islanders as the result of a trade on June 6, 1972, that the Islanders' promised to not take certain players in the 1972 NHL Expansion Draft in exchange for Buffalo's seventh-round (Don McLaughlin), ninth-round, tenth-round picks in the 1972 NHL Amateur Draft and this pick.

Round nine

 * 1) The Los Angeles Kings' ninth-round pick went to the Atlanta Flames as the result of a trade on June 6, 1972, that the Flames' promised to not take certain players in the 1972 NHL Expansion Draft in exchange for Los Angeles' tenth-round pick in the 1973 NHL Amateur Draft and this pick.
 * 2) The Buffalo Sabres' ninth-round pick went to the New York Islanders as the result of a trade on June 6, 1972, that the Islanders' promised to not take certain players in the 1972 NHL Expansion Draft in exchange for Buffalo's seventh-round (Don McLaughlin), eight-round (Rene Levasseur), tenth-round picks in the 1972 NHL Amateur Draft and this pick.
 * 3) The St. Louis Blues' ninth-round pick went to the New York Rangers as the result of a trade on June 8, 1972, that sent cash to St. Louis in exchange for this pick.
 * 4) The New York Rangers' ninth-round pick went to the Atlanta Flames as the result of a trade on June 6, 1972, that the Flames' promised to not take certain players in the 1972 NHL Expansion Draft in exchange for this pick.  The Flames passed on making a selection.
 * 5) The Boston Bruins' ninth-round pick went to the Toronto Maple Leafs as the result of a trade on June 8, 1972, that sent this pick to Toronto in exchange for cash.

Round ten

 * 1) The Los Angeles Kings' eighth-round pick went to the Minnesota North Stars as the result of a trade on June 8, 1972, that sent Los Angeles' eighth-round pick in the 1972 NHL Amateur Draft (Scott MacPhail) and this pick to Minnesota in exchange for cash.
 * 2) The Buffalo Sabres' tenth-round pick went to the New York Islanders as the result of a trade on June 6, 1972, that the Islanders' promised to not take certain players in the 1972 NHL Expansion Draft in exchange for Buffalo's seventh-round (Don McLaughlin), eight-round (Rene Levasseur), ninth-round (Bill Ennos) picks in the 1972 NHL Amateur Draft and this pick.
 * 3) The California Golden Seals' tenth-round pick went to the Minnesota North Stars as the result of a trade on June 8, 1972, that sent this pick to Minnesota in exchange for cash.
 * 4) The Philadelphia Flyers' tenth-round pick went to the Minnesota North Stars as the result of a trade on June 8, 1972, that sent this pick to Minnesota in exchange for cash.
 * 5) The Toronto Maple Leafs' tenth-round pick went to the Minnesota North Stars as the result of a trade on June 8, 1972, that sent cash to Toronto in exchange for this pick.  The North Stars passed on making a selection.

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User:VirtuousCircle

I created my account on 3-Feb-2005. I had been using Wikipedia as a reference source for best part of a year and then discovered the opportunity and value of contributing to this unique repository of knowledge.

My specialist subjects, to which I intend to contribute in Wikipedia are

 * Buddhism, having studied it to degree level and having been a Buddhist for about 30 years
 * Information Technology, having also studied it to degree level and having had hands-on experience in IT for around 40 years.

In the area of IT, I feel particularly capable to provide material on topics such as project management, CRM and business intelligence, application development and implementation.

I have thoroughly revised the article on Buddhist Rebirth and have expanded a stub on mail merge. I have also interfered in other subjects, such as Timpani.

If you are interested, I am a 55 year old, British male. If you are not, I am a 205 year old, Antarctican hermaphrodite.

There are beings on this planet who are of the opinion that I am super boring. I acknowledge their inviolable right to hold such a view. The freedom to express oneself is fundamental to our society in its multivarious forms and like many of my generation I have argued long and hard in support of this freedom, sometimes until past 11pm and under threat of being beaten to a pulp if I didn't shut up. In fact, I remember many years ago being intimidated by a very large, muscular man who had the absurd cheek to tell me to give it a rest. Well, I wasn't going to allow him to oppress me, as I explained to the nurse when I regained consciousness. Ah, those were the days.

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Talk:Poás Volcano

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Poas volcano is located at the Cordillera Central (Central range) of Costa Rica

Geyser?
I've removed the following passage from the article. I've read through the references given (and the external links) and I can't see anything that confirms this. Some talk about "geyser-like" eruptions, but there's nothing about a geyser jet 4 miles high, for instance. If you want to add any of it back, please give a specific inline citation. "Some consider the Poas Volcano to be a cross between a geyser and a volcano, and scientists believe that it is a volcano gradually becoming a geyser. Therefore, The Poas Volcano is believed to be the biggest geyser crater in the world. On one occasion, it spewed a jet of steam four miles high, claiming the record for the highest geyser jet." -- Avenue 10:34, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Any claim that the volcano ever shot a geyser four miles high would need a reliable citation to support it. Remarkable claims require very solid evidence. I have never heard of Poás performing like this. It is important also to distinguish between a cloud of steam and a geyser. Power station chimneys sometimes emit steam clouds to high altitudes, but they are not geysers. — O'Dea  (talk) 19:22, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I prefer this image
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Volcan_Poas_Costa_Rica.jpg but I am biased because it is mine. Tomfriedel (talk) 04:09, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Very beautiful, please add it. --Avargasm (talk) 04:49, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

2011 activity change
is reporting (that since mid july) there has been incandecent activity - the first here since 1981

And regarding the earlier question about 'geyser like behaviour' the link says Poás eruptions often include it, no mention of the record though.

lots more information here on both questions EdwardLane (talk) 16:41, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

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James Mercer

James Mercer may refer to:

 * James Mercer (judge) (1736–1793), American jurist, Virginia delegate to Continental Congress
 * James Mercer (Australian politician) (1842–1925), New South Wales politician
 * James Mercer (mathematician) (1883–1932), English mathematician
 * James Mercer (musician) (born 1970), American guitarist and musician
 * Bert Mercer (James Cuthbert Mercer, 1886–1944), New Zealand aviator
 * James Mercer (diplomat), former Ghanaian ambassador to Israel and chairman of Ghana Airways
 * James Mercer (poet) (1734–1804), Scottish soldier and poet

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Talk:Corazón (volcano)

I deleted the imbecilic insult that had been placed on the page. however, since I lack knowledge on the subject of this article, I cannot re-write it. Regardless, I figure deleting "ur gay" from the page is a step in the right direction. :) Thelordsavenger (talk) 08:25, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

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Kamen Rider 555

Kamen Rider 555 (仮面ライダー) is a Japanese tokusatsu television drama. It is the 13th installment in the Kamen Rider Series. It is a joint collaboration between Ishinomori Productions and Toei, and was broadcast on TV Asahi from January 26, 2003, to January 18, 2004. This series was the first to use TV Asahi's current logo. It aired as a part of TV Asahi's 2003 Super Hero Time block, alongside Bakuryū Sentai Abaranger.

Story
The Smart Brain corporation, the world's most powerful corporation, is trying to take over the world using Orphnoch, the "next stage in humanity's evolution", to covertly kill off the human population. In pursuit of this, they develop three suits of power armor, called Rider Gears (each for Faiz, Kaixa, and Delta), to find and protect the Orphnoch King, who can fix a defect within Orphnoch DNA which causes their genetic structure to break down, leading to death.

The Rider Gears are stolen by Hanagata, the Goat Orphnoch and former chief of Smart Brain. He sends them to his foster children (dubbed the "Ryuseiji", after the school they attended) so they can stop the Orphnoch from achieving their goal. However, Rider Gears were designed to be worn by Orphnoch, and humans are unable to activate the systems without undergoing genetic modification.

A young loner, Takumi Inui, is unwittingly drawn into the conflict between the Orphnoch and humans and becomes Kamen Rider Faiz to save the life of Mari Sonoda, one of the Ryuseiji. Smart Brain begins targeting him in an attempt to retrieve the Faiz Gear.

However, there is division amongst the Orphnoch, as those who wish to co-exist with humans rather than kill them, begin resisting the Smart Brain, who in turn targets them as well. Most of these "renegade" Orphnochs are either killed, remain neutral, or begin siding with the Ryuseiji against the Smart Brain.

When the Tokyo police discover the Orphnoch are behind a series of bizarre murders, they begin operations to defeat the creatures, largely unaware of the various factions involved. They even begin performing experiments on captured Orphnoch in an attempt to find ways of destroying them, though this does not go well.

The Orphnoch King eventually awakens within a young boy named Teruo Suzuki, whom Naoya Kaido and Keitaro Kikuchi saved and befriended. Now, it is up to the holders of the Rider Gears to band together and fight for humanity's survival.

Production
The Kamen Rider 555 trademark was registered by Toei on October 29, 2002.

Rider Gears
The equipment used in the series to transform is referred to as Rider Gear. It was created to be worn by the Orphnoch to protect their Orphnoch King. Each Rider Gear contains a belt known as a Driver used to form armor that protects the wearer and amplifies their strengths and abilities. The armor's theme is based on a letter from the Greek alphabet, and contains the letter somehow within the aesthetic design. The Gears also have a method to input command codes, a cell phone number keypad for most, which can activate armor and various weapons. The sound effects of a dialing in any of the Rider Gear phones were later referenced in episode 17 of Kamen Rider Kabuto.

The TV series focused on three sets of Rider Gear: Faiz Gear, Kaixa Gear, and Delta Gear. During the TV series, Hanagata, the foster father of the Ryuseiji and former chief executive of Smart Brain, attempted to create several new Rider Gears, using two lost people to test out the first two. The two belts failed to create Rider armor, resulting in the wearer's deaths. When Itsuro Takuma of Lucky Clover wore the third one it disabled him for a few seconds before it dissolved. The fourth dissolved without ever being worn. The Kamen Rider 555 movie, Paradise Lost, introduced two additional sets of Rider Gear: Psyga Gear and Orga Gear.

Riotrooper army
The show featured a series of mass-produced transformation belts called Smart Buckle, which enabled the wearer to transform into a generic Riotrooper. The Riotroopers were introduced in the movie and later added at the end of the TV series.

Live stage-show
A live stage show of Kamen Rider Faiz featured three unique riders named Alpha, Beta, and Gamma.

Naming conventions
Each set of Rider Gear is code-locked, in addition to being only usable by Orphnoch. These codes, input through the phone of each Gear, are a set of numbers that relate to the theme of each Gear. For the Faiz Gear, the code is 5-5-5, or "fives", phonetically similar to the word Faiz. For the Kaixa Gear, the code is 9-1-3, which is read in goroawase as "Ka-I-Sa". Delta Gear's phone was voice-activated, yet nonetheless also was coded with 3-3-3, a reference to the Greek letter Delta, a triangle.

The goroawase system was also used for the Psyga Gear, where the code 3-1-5 is read as "Sa-I-Go". The Orga Gear, patterned after the Greek Omega, the final letter, is code-locked to 0-0-0.

Paradise Lost
Kamen Rider 555 the Movie: Paradise Lost (劇場版 仮面ライダー555 パラダイス・ロスト), was released during the run of the series, as a double feature alongside Bakuryū Sentai Abaranger Deluxe: Abare Summer Is Freezing Cold! on August 16, 2003. The film was 81 minutes long. A few new characters and Rider Gears were introduced in the film.

Kamen Rider Taisen
A trailer for Heisei Rider vs. Shōwa Rider: Kamen Rider Taisen feat. Super Sentai (平成ライダー対昭和ライダー 仮面ライダー大戦 feat.スーパー戦隊) was shown in theaters with The Fateful Sengoku Movie Battle. The film's website reveals that it would be released in Japanese theaters on March 29, 2014. Kohei Murakami and Kento Handa were confirmed to reprise their respective roles from Kamen Rider 555.

Super Hero Taisen GP
Super Hero Taisen GP: Kamen Rider 3 (スーパーヒーロー大戦GP 仮面ライダー3号) is the 2015 entry of the "Super Hero Taisen" film series, featuring the cast of Kamen Rider Drive and the appearance of Kamen Rider 3, which was originally created by Shotaro Ishinomori for the one-shot 1972 manga Rider #3 VS. General Black (3ごうライダーたい ブラックしょうぐんのまき). Kento Handa reprises his role in the film, which was scheduled to open in theaters on March 21, 2015, and its sequel Kamen Rider 4 (仮面ライダー4号), which has Mitsuru Karahashi reprising his role. In Kamen Rider 4, it reveals the truth after the end of Kamen Rider 555 TV series, especially on Takumi himself.

Hyper Battle Video
Kamen Rider 555: Hyper Battle Video (仮面ライダー555（ファイズ） ハイパーバトルビデオ) features a boom box called the Faiz Sounder developed by the Smart Brain corporation appearing at the laundromat where Takumi, Mari, and Keitaro work at, causing them and everyone else to break into song and dance. The Faiz Sounder was created as a result of a contest for Televi-Kun for a new weapon for Kamen Rider Faiz.

Web-exclusive series

 * Kamen Rider Genms: Smart Brain and the 1000% Crisis (仮面ライダーゲンムズ スマートブレインと1000%のクライシス): The second entry of the web-exclusive Kamen Rider Genms series released on Toei Tokusatsu Fan Club on April 17, 2022, and serves a crossover between Kamen Rider Ex-Aid, Kamen Rider Zero-One, and 555.
 * Kamen Rider Outsiders (仮面ライダーアウトサイダーズ): A web-exclusive crossover series of Toei Tokusatsu Fan Club between various characters from the Kamen Rider metaseries released on October 16, 2022, which is a direct sequel to Kamen Rider Genms.
 * Kamen Rider 555 Murder Case (仮面ライダー555殺人事件): A two-episode web-exclusive special released on Toei Tokusatsu YouTube Official (only the first episode) and Toei Tokusatsu Fan Club on January 28, 2024. The events of the web-exclusive special are not connected to Kamen Rider 555 20th: Paradise Regained.

V-Cinema
Kamen Rider 555 20th: Paradise Regained (仮面ライダー555 20th パラダイス・リゲインド) is an upcoming V-Cinema release scheduled for a limited theatrical release on February 2, 2024, followed by its DVD and Blu-ray release on May 29, 2024. The events of the V-Cinema take place twenty years after the TV series. The V-Cinema is written by Toshiki Inoue and directed by Ryuta Tasaki. The theme song is "Identiφ's" performed by ISSA.

Novels

 * Kamen Rider Faiz Seiden: Deformed Flowers (仮面ライダーファイズ 正伝 —異形の花々—), written by Toshiki Inoue, is a novel adaptation. The novel was released on August 17, 2004.
 * Kamen Rider Faiz (仮面ライダーファイズ), written by Toshiki Inoue, is part of a series of spin-off novel adaptions of the Heisei Era Kamen Riders. It is a reprint of Deformed Flowers, which added a five-year epilogue to the story. The novel was released on January 31, 2013.

Lost World
The S.I.C. Hero Saga side story for 555 published in Monthly Hobby Japan magazine was titled Masked Rider 555: Lost World (MASKED RIDER 555 -ロスト・ワールド-). It serves as a prologue to the alternate story that was 555: Paradise Lost, and features the new character Riotrooper Ver. 2 (ライオトルーパーver.2). The story ran from October 2005 to January 2006.

 * Chapter titles
 * 1) Faiz (ファイズ)
 * 2) Kaixa (カイザ)
 * 3) Delta (デルタ)
 * 4) Psyga (サイガ)

Video game
A video game based on the series was produced by Bandai for the PlayStation 2. It was a fighting game that featured many of the characters from the TV series. There were several modes of gameplay for either a single play or two players. It was released only in Japan near the end of the TV series on December 18, 2003.

Blu-ray release
In 2014, 555 received a three-part Blu-ray release. To promote the release, the cast reunited after 10 years, but they remarked that not much has changed, other than Yoshika Kato changing her stage name to Leilani Gaja and her new life in Hong Kong and series lead Kento Handa's recent popularity on the variety show Tamori Club where he has surprised guests with his knowledge of high-rise buildings and kayōkyoku.

Cast

 * Takumi Inui (乾 巧): Kento Handa (半田 健人)
 * Mari Sonoda (園田 真理): Yuria Haga (芳賀 優里亜)
 * Keitaro Kikuchi (菊池 啓太郎): Ken Mizorogi (溝呂木 賢)
 * Yuji Kiba (木場 勇治): Masayuki Izumi (泉 政行)
 * Yuka Osada (長田 結花): Yoshika Kato (加藤 美佳)
 * Naoya Kaido (海堂 直也): Mitsuru Karahashi (唐橋 充)
 * Masato Kusaka (草加 雅人): Kōhei Murakami (村上 幸平)
 * Shuji Mihara (三原 修二): Atsushi Harada (原田 篤)
 * Rina Abe (阿部 里奈): Rie Kasai (河西 りえ)
 * Kazufumi Mizuno (水野 和史): Kengo Ohkuchi (大口 兼悟)
 * Aki Sawada (澤田 亜希): Go Ayano (綾野 剛)
 * Teruo Suzuki (鈴木 照夫): Kayato Watanabe (渡辺 彼野人)
 * Joji Soeno (添野 錠二): Taro Ishida (石田 太郎)
 * Sawamura (沢村): Koji Iwakawa (岩川 幸司)
 * Hikaru Soeno (添野 ひかる): Manami Miwake (三訳 真奈美)
 * Masahiko Minami (南 雅彦): Atsushi Ogawa (小川 敦史)
 * J (ジェイ): Kenneth Duria (ケネス・ヅリア)
 * Itsuro Takuma (琢磨 逸郎): Jun Yamasaki (山崎 潤)
 * Saeko Kageyama (影山 冴子): Waka (和香)
 * Kitazaki (北崎): Ray Fujita (藤田 玲)
 * Smart Lady (スマートレディ): Hitomi Kurihara (栗原 瞳)
 * Kyoji Murakami (村上 峡児): Katsuyuki Murai (村井 克行)
 * Hanagata (花形): Koji Naka (中 康治)
 * Arch Orphnoch (アークオルフェノク): Hiroshi Yanaka (家中 宏)
 * Narration, Driver Voice: Takehiko Kano (假野 剛彦)

Guest actors

 * Chie Morishita (森下 千恵): Mika Katsumura (勝村 美香)
 * Yuji Kiba's father (1): Shinichi Kase (加瀬 慎一)
 * Yuji Kiba's mother (1): Midori Takei (竹井 みどり)
 * Akai (赤井): Katsuyuki Yamazaki (山﨑 勝之)
 * Eiichi Toda (戸田 英一): Shigeki Kagemaru (影丸 茂樹)
 * Professor (7, 8): Ichiro Ogura (小倉 一郎)
 * Shigehisa Aoki (青木 茂久): Sarutoki Minagawa (皆川 猿時)
 * Gorgeous man (31, 32): Masaki Tachi (舘 正貴)
 * Crab Orphnoch (クラブオルフェノク): Satoshi Matsuda (松田 悟志)

International Broadcasts

 * In the Philippines, it was aired on GMA Network from 2005 to 2006 and Hero TV from YYYY to YYYY with Tagalog dub as Masked Rider 555.
 * From 2005 to 2006, the series was dubbed in English and aired in Singapore on MediaCorp Kids Central as Masked Rider 555.
 * From October 29, 2005- November 4, 2006, 555 aired in Hong Kong on TVB as Masked Rider 555 (幪面超人555, Méng Miàn Chāorén 555) dubbed in Cantonese.
 * From September 18, 2005- August 27, 2006, 555 aired in Taiwan on YoYo TV as Masked Rider 555 (假面騎士555, Jiǎ Miàn Qíshì 555) with a Taiwanese Mandarin dub.
 * On April 24, 2021, 555, alongside Agito and Ryuki, aired on FreeTV, with a Spanish dub in Latin America.

Songs

 * Opening theme
 * "Justiφ's"
 * Lyrics: Shoko Fujibayashi
 * Composition: Kazuto Sato
 * Arrangement: Kōtarō Nakagawa
 * Artist: ISSA
 * Episodes: 2-49

 * Insert themes
 * "Dead or alive"
 * Lyrics: Shoko Fujibayashi
 * Composition: Katsuya Yoshida
 * Arrangement: Akio Kondo
 * Artist: Shinichi Ishihara
 * Episodes: 2-20
 * "The people with no name"
 * Lyrics: Shoko Fujibayashi
 * Rap Lyrics: m.c.A.T
 * Composition: Cher Watanabe
 * Arrangement: Rider Chips
 * Artist: Rider Chips featuring m.c.A.T
 * Episodes: 21–32, 39
 * "EGO ~ eyes glazing over"
 * Lyrics: Shoko Fujibayashi
 * Composition & Arrangement: Cher Watanabe
 * Artist: ICHIDAI
 * Episodes: 33–38, 41-48
 * "Justiφ's -Accel Mix-"
 * Lyrics: Shoko Fujibayashi
 * Composition: Kazuto Sato
 * Arrangement: Kazunori Miyake
 * Artist: ISSA
 * Episodes: 40, Movie

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Talk:Ras Dashen

Height ranking in Africa
I do not think Ras Dejen should be regarded as the fourth or fifth highest in Africa. Apart from the highest points of Kilimanjaro, Kenya, Stanley and Meru, Mawenzi (Kilimanjaro) and several other peaks in the Ruwenzori (Stanley) range have at least 500m of topographic prominence and are therefore arguably mountains in their own right. Viewfinder 17:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

First ascent
The claim that Ras Dejen was first ascended in 1841 assumes that it had not been previously climbed by locals. I cannot provide a verifiable citation, but such an assumption seems rather unlikely. Unless there is any objection, I propose to add a neutral note on tis matter. Viewfinder 11:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Height
I am changing the height to that given in 2005 by the Ethiopian mapping authority, which is supported to within 1m by a Franco-Italian survey, and is not incomptible with SRTM data. Viewfinder (talk) 11:08, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Dubious translation: "the general who fights in front of the Emperor"
"Ras" means "head" and transitively is an aristrocratic title, which may be bended, but likely not to "general" or "emperor". It also is used as a general part of the name of mountain tops. "Dejen" can mean "support" or "foundation". How does "Ras Dejen" mean "the general who fights in front of the Emperor"? This likely is better translated as "solid mountain" or "mighty mountain". Unfortunately I cannot read the citation. Who knows, maybe this comes from some flowery hymn to the countryside. Tomdo08 (talk) 22:22, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

 * Ras Dejen (Dashen) fo the Semen mountains was named after Ras Dejena.  Ras Dashen is the corrupted name.  He was Tigray’s high ranking official during the reign of Emperor Yohannes.  Ras Hagos was a successor of Ras Dejena, then followed by Ras Gugsa Aray, and finally Ras Siyum Mengesha. West of this mountain across some vallyes around Adi Remets is another mountain with the same name, Dejana, without Ras. It refers the same person who was responsible in administering the whole area. Andexgg (talk) 09:15, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

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John Brinkley

John Brinkley may refer to:

 * John Brinkley (astronomer) (1763–1835), Astronomer Royal of Ireland and Bishop of Cloyne
 * John R. Brinkley (1885–1942), American doctor known for his radio broadcasts and accusations of quackery

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Borut Pahor

Borut Pahor ( born 2 November 1963) is a Slovenian politician who served as President of Slovenia from 2012 to 2022. He previously served as Prime Minister of Slovenia from 2008 to 2012.

A longtime member and former president of the Social Democrats, Pahor served several terms as a member of the National Assembly and was its speaker from 2000 to 2004. In 2004, he was elected as a Member of the European Parliament (MEP). Following the victory of the Social Democrats in the 2008 Slovenian parliamentary election, Pahor was appointed as Prime Minister.

In September 2011, Pahor's government lost a confidence vote amidst an economic crisis and political tensions. He continued to serve as the pro tempore Prime Minister until he was replaced by Janez Janša in February 2012. In June 2012, he announced he would run for the office of President of Slovenia. He defeated the incumbent Danilo Türk in a runoff election held on 2 December 2012, receiving roughly two-thirds of the vote. In November 2017, Pahor was re-elected for a second term against Marjan Šarec.

Early life
Pahor was born in Postojna, SR Slovenia, in the former Yugoslavia, and spent his childhood in the town of Nova Gorica, before moving to the nearby town of Šempeter pri Gorici. His father died at a young age and his mother, Iva Pahor Martelanc, a seamstress and Nazi concentration camp survivor, raised him as a single mother.

After graduating from Nova Gorica High School in 1983, Pahor enrolled in the University of Ljubljana, where he studied public policy and political science at the Faculty of Sociology, Political Science, and Journalism (FSPN, now known as Faculty of Social Sciences, FDV). He graduated in 1987 with a thesis on peace negotiations between members of the Non-Aligned Movement. His bachelor's thesis was awarded the Student Prešeren Award, the highest academic award for students in Slovenia. According to the Slovenian press, Pahor worked as a male model to support himself during his university studies.

Pre-1990s
Pahor became involved in party politics already in high school. At the age of 15, he became the chairman of the high school student's section of the Alliance of Socialist Youth of Slovenia in Nova Gorica, the autonomous youth branch of the Communist Party. In his college years, Pahor joined the ruling League of Communists of Slovenia.

In 1987, he ran for the Presidency of University Section of the Alliance of the Socialist Youth of Slovenia. This internal election was important, as it was the first election in Yugoslavia organized entirely according to democratic principles. In the election, in which the members could freely choose between two antagonistic teams, Pahor's team lost to a more liberal faction.

As a consequence, the Youth Alliance emancipated from the control of the Communist Party: a process that resulted in the formation of the Liberal Democratic Party in 1990. Due to this shift, Pahor continued his political career in the main apparatus of the Communist Party. He rose to prominence in the late 1980s, when he became one of the strongest supporters of the reformist wing of the Communist Party, led by Milan Kučan and Ciril Ribičič.

During the political crisis caused by the so-called Ljubljana trial in the spring and summer of 1988, Pahor was the first high-ranking member of the Communist Party to propose that the Party renounced the monopoly over the Slovenian political life, and thus opened the path to full-fledged political pluralism.

In 1989, Pahor co-founded and chaired the Democratic Forum, a youth section within the Slovenian Communist Party established as a counter-force to the Alliance of Socialist Youth, which was now already openly opposing the communists' policies. The same year, he was appointed to the Central Committee of the League of Communists of Slovenia, thus becoming the youngest member of this body in its history. In 1990, he participated in the Slovenian delegation at the last Congress of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia in Belgrade.

1990s
In the first free elections in Slovenia in April 1990, in which the communists were defeated by the Democratic Opposition of Slovenia (DEMOS), Pahor was elected in the Slovenian Parliament on the list of the League of Communists - Party of Democratic Reform. Together with Milan Balažic, Pahor emerged as the leader of the pro-reformist wing of the party, which advocated a clear cut with the communist past and a full-fledged acceptance of free-market economy; they even went so far to propose the merger of the party with Jože Pučnik's Social Democratic Party of Slovenia. As the party continued to lose support during the whole 1990s, falling under 10% of the popular vote in 1996, Pahor's positions grew in strength. In 1997, he was elected as its president on a Third way-centrist platform.

In 1997, he was involved in the attempt of creating a common left-wing government between Pahor's United List of Social Democrats, the Liberal Democracy of Slovenia, the Slovenian National Party, and the Pensioner's Party. Pahor was proposed as Minister of Foreign Affairs in this left-wing coalition government, but the proposal failed to gain a majority in the parliament. Instead, the Liberal Democracy of Slovenia formed a coalition with the conservative Slovenian People's Party, based on a centrist platform, which ruled until 2000. Pahor's Social Democratic party remained in opposition, although it supported the government in several key decisions.

Forging a centrist agenda

In 2000, Pahor led his party in the coalition with the Liberal Democracy of Slovenia led by Janez Drnovšek. Pahor was elected speaker of the Slovenian National Assembly (the lower house of the Slovenian Parliament). This was his first important institutional office. During this period, he distinguished himself with a moderate and non-partisan behaviour, which gained him the respect of large sectors of the centre-right opposition.

As the speaker of the parliament, he pushed for a public commemoration in the memory of the deceased anti-communist dissident Jože Pučnik, which was initially opposed by the more radical members of the ruling left wing coalition.

At the same time, Pahor clashed with left sectors within his own party over the issue of Slovenia's NATO membership. Throughout the 1990s and 2000s, Pahor remained an outspoken supporter of Slovenia's entry in this military alliance, which was opposed by several left-wing sectors of the society.

In June 2004, he was elected as member of the European Parliament, where was a member of the Socialist group. He served on Parliament's Budgetary Control committee and the Constitutional Committee during the period of the rejection of the Constitutional treaty by France and the Netherlands and the negotiation of the Lisbon Treaty, supporting the Parliament's line on this (Richard Corbett and Inigo Mendez de Vigo report). In October 2004, the centre-left coalition in Slovenia lost to the liberal-conservative Slovenian Democratic Party and its conservative allies. In the first years of Janez Janša's centre-right government, Pahor openly polemized with Anton Rop, the leader of the Liberal Democracy of Slovenia, over the opposition strategy towards the government. In the polemics, which soon became known to the public as the "Dear Tone, Dear Borut Discussion" (after the opening lines of the leaders' ), Pahor opted for a more constructive opposition. In 2006, Pahor's Social Democrats entered an agreement with the ruling coalition party for the collaboration in the economic reform policies.

Due to the gradual dissolution of the Liberal Democracy of Slovenia, by 2007 the Social Democrats became the second-largest political force in Slovenia, and Pahor thus became the non-formal leader of the left-wing opposition.

The same year, Pahor considered running for the presidential elections, in which he was favoured by the polls. However, due to the high ranking of his party, he decided to support the presidential candidate Danilo Türk, and continue to lead the Social Democrats to the parliamentary elections of 2008.

Prime Minister (2008–2012)

Pahor was Prime Minister of Slovenia from November 2008 until February 2012, heading the government formed by Social Democrats in coalition with the Liberal Democracy of Slovenia and Zares.

Faced by the global economic crisis his government proposed economic reforms, but they were rejected by the opposition leader Janez Janša and by a referendum in 2011. The voters voted in favour of an arbitration agreement with Croatia, aimed to solve the border dispute between the countries, emerging after the breakup of Yugoslavia. Tensions between the coalition partners reached the summit in 2011, when two parties, DeSUS in April and Zares in July, left the government. The opposition has accused the government of corruption and mishandling the economy. Faced with the loss of several ministers and falling public support, Pahor asked the Parliament for a motion of confidence. On 20 September, the Parliament voted 51–36 against the motion, resulting in the fall of the government. After the vote, Pahor said: "I do not feel any bitterness. I have full faith in our people and the future of Slovenia."

According to the constitution, the Parliament has to elect a new Prime Minister in 30 days. If this does not happen, the President of Slovenia dissolves the Parliament and calls for early election. Most political parties had expressed opinion that they preferred early election instead of forming a new government.

On 1 December 2011, several clips of the recordings of closed sessions of the Government of Slovenia during Borut Pahor's term were published on the video-sharing website YouTube.

2011 elections and aftermath
On 4 December 2011 elections, under Pahor rule the party went from 29 to 10 (losing 19) seats at the early National Assembly election in comparison to the 2008 elections, but Pahor expressed "great contentment" with the result and explained that the party won "more votes than he expected". On 19 December 2011, while still in hospital due to otitis media, Pahor accepted the candidacy for the Speaker of the National Assembly after National Assembly election, but retracted it after two unsuccessful election rounds.

In June 2012, Pahor unsuccessfully ran for re-election as president of the Social Democrats. He was defeated by Igor Lukšič by a narrow margin. At the same party congress, Pahor announced he would run for President of Slovenia. A few days later, the party and its new president officially supported Pahor's candidacy for president. In September, the Civic List, a centrist party in the Slovenian center-right government coalition, also officially supported Pahor's candidacy for president.

2012 presidential election
Pahor won the second round of the election with 67.3% of the vote.

The results were first announced in an exit poll by the Mediana Institute. The result was later confirmed at 67.4% for Pahor to 32.6% for Danilo Türk by the Electoral Commission of Slovenia, with 99.7% of the votes counted.

After the results were announced, Pahor reiterated that this was "only the beginning, the beginning of something new, a new hope, a new period." Pahor stressed that people need trust, respect, and tolerance. He stated he will keep the promises he made during the campaign and will keep working to help solve the problems the nation faces.

With this, he became the youngest President of Slovenia in history and the only politician to hold all three presidential positions in the Slovene political system: speaker of the National Assembly, prime minister, and president.

Pahor has tried taking a more active role. This has involved meeting youth at publicized events in the presidential offices in Ljubljana as well as appearing as a speaker in some major events in the country. He also met Vladimir Putin, whom he encouraged to try to resolve the Ukrainian conflict, and suggested a Trump-Putin meeting in Ljubljana, which has previously served as a venue for such occasion in 2001.

2017 presidential election
Pahor won the second round with about 53 percent of the vote, with 99.9 percent of the votes counted, according to the Election Commission, while his opponent, Marjan Šarec, had 47 percent. Turnout was about 42 percent, according to preliminary figures, the lowest for a presidential election since Slovenia became an independent country in 1991.

Awards and decorations

 * 🇦🇹 Austria: Grand Star of the Decoration of Honour for Services to the Republic of Austria (8 December 2022)
 * 🇧🇬 Bulgaria: Sash of the Order of the Balkan Mountains (25 July 2016)
 * 🇨🇾 Cyprus: Grand Collar of the Order of Makarios III (9 January 2019)
 * 🇨🇿 Czech Republic: Collar of the Order of the White Lion (28 October 2017)
 * 🇪🇪 Estonia: Collar of the Order of the Cross of Terra Mariana (26 August 2019)
 * 🇩🇪 Germany: Grand Cross Special Class of the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany (25 November 2014)
 * 🇮🇹 Italy: Knight Grand Cross with Collar of the Order of Merit of the Italian Republic (5 May 2014)
 * 🇱🇻 Latvia: Recipient of the Cross of Recognition First Class (5 June 2019)
 * 🇳🇴 Norway: Grand Cross of the Order of St. Olav (6 November 2019)
 * 🇵🇹 Portugal: Grand Collar of the Order of Prince Henry (31 May 2021)
 * 🇰🇷 South Korea: Recipient of the Grand Order of Mugunghwa (21 September 2021)
 * 🇺🇦 Ukraine: Member of the Order of Liberty (8 November 2016)
 * 🇺🇦 Ukraine: Order of Prince Yaroslav the Wise, 1st class (21 September 2021)

Personal life
Pahor and his domestic partner, Tanja Pečar, have a son, Luka. Apart from his native Slovene, he speaks fluent English, French, Italian, and Serbo-Croatian.

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There is a typo on this page so the link from it doesn't work. It is "Battle of Fort Buchanan" not "Battle of Fort Buchanpan". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.166.230.62 (talk) 15:31, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

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Etymology
Hi all!

I recently added a whole bunch of indigenous names to the beginning of the article. It got me thinking that it may be useful to add an /*Etymology*/ section--there's certainly a lot going on with the names, both those that are indigenous and those that are English/Spanish (for example: Spaniard explorers originally called the peaks Sierra sin Agua before friars named it Sierra de San Francisco). I may go about and start the section myself, but I'd really appreciate some help/pointers/tips with it if anyone is interested (I've never written a section before!). Do let me know.

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Hiker Deaths?
There is a sentence about sudden weather changes bringing death to unprepared hikers on the Peaks. While it can get cold on the mountain during a monsoon storm, sudden large temperature swings are not that common and storms are easy to see coming in. Unlike Cascade volcanoes, this is not a particularly large mountain or one that requires much skill or time. I highly doubt there has every been a death due to hypothermia without extenuating circumstances. I think we need a source for this or the section should be removed.

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Where's the "Geology"?
How come no geology or geological history?

Just curious. 2600:8800:785:1300:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 22:09, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

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Steepness
I deleted the part of the opening sentence saying "sheerest in North America". First, that implies it is immensely steep, which it is not, as compared to, e.g. El Capitan. Second, it's not even close to the biggest face in all of North America (compare Mount McKinley/Denali), and it is not quite the biggest in the contiguous US (compare Mount Rainier). Now, it may be true that Rainier is the only other place where you can get more than 10,000 feet in 7 miles, and if you declare that not to count as an "escarpment" (since it's volcanic), then the photo caption could perhaps be changed back. But it would need a careful reference. -- Spireguy 02:16, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Need reference for escarpment statement
''Within the San Jacinto Mountains is San Jacinto Peak, world-renowned as the steepest escarpment in North America.'' Found in: page 8 of chapter 3-"Affected Environment" from Proposed Management Plan for the Santa Rosa and San Jacinto Mountains National Monument/FEIS ( PDF format)

Just because this is a FEIS document does not mean it is accurate. My question is: where do I go to double-check this statement?

Sincerely Marcia Wright (talk) 05:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

 * I see it on a lot of websites. As far as reliable source go, this one doesn't quite confirm it, Laboratory/SanJacinto/proposal.pdf Proposal to Establish a Site in the San Jacinto Mountains as a National Underground Science Laboratory PDF. "The San Jacinto escarpment is one of the steepest and tallest fault bluffs in the United States." Another article, apparently from a local lifestyle magazine, "Santa Rosa & San Jacinto Mountains National Monument: A celebration of beauty and history in e Santa Rosa and San Jacinto Mountains National Monument" says, "e northeastern face of San Jacinto is one of the steepest escarpments in the United States." So maybe we should change it to "one of" until we find a source for a more absolute assertion.   Will Beback   talk    06:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Darn I knew I'd screw this up- Will-the article does say "one of". I was asking where to go to check on the statement in the box above that is from the FEIS (Final Environmental Impact Statement). In other words checking a fact before citing it in a Wikipedia article, also called a second source, (ideally there should be three per fact statement.) The website you give looks reliable-I agree the statement should stay as "one of" . In thiinking about this, the appendix of the RDF should have a list of refs, I'll check that out.  Marcia Wright (talk) 04:31, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

 * Three sources per fact? Perhaps if it is an extraordinary assertion, but routine assertions just need one good source. Considering that the peak is the 6th most prominent in the lower 48 states, this doesn't seem extraordinary. But more info is always better.  Will Beback   talk    05:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Certainly the excarpment in question is big, and for such a large vertical relief, relatively steep. But does it really mean anything to say that it is "the steepest", or "one of the steepest"? An escarpment that is 10 feet high but dead vertical would be steeper. So I find any such statement suspect. -- Spireguy (talk) 15:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

 * Plus, there are no strict rules about what is and what isn't an escarpment, nor exactly how to determine the bottom and top except perhaps in the most obvious cases (the same issue occurs with waterfalls that are not a simple plunge--most involve some waterfall-like / cascade-like parts). And, is San Jacinto's north face really an escarpment at all? In the usually sense as described on the escarpment page? I think of escarpments as sudden changes in otherwise fairly level terrain, with a long bluff-like cliff, rather than something one finds high on a mountain. But I could be wrong. Pfly (talk) 16:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I was wrong. A quick search turned up sources that might be of interest here: University of California Publications in Botany (p. 7), ...San Jacinto Peak...the fault on the northeast side being 8000 to 10000 feet high. Geology of the San Jacinto Mountains, the core of the San Jacinto Mountains [is] the Southern California Batholith. ...[earthquake activity along] several parallel faults...lifted the eastern face of the batholith more dramatically than the western face, creating a sharp escarpment on the northern and eastern side of the range. San Bernardino Mountain Trail (p. 143), ...a stupdendous rock escarpment, soaring...almost 10,000 vertical feet in in five horizontal miles. ...as rugged a precipice as exists in the United States. The North American Deserts (p. 95), ...San Jacinto Peak, the north face of which is considered to have the greatest sheer drop of any mountain in the United States. Introduction to the Geology of Southern California and its native plants (pp. 208-209), San Gorgonio Pass...bounded on the south by the abrupt fault scarp of the San Jacinto Mountains. And The San Andreas fault system, which has lots of geologic information about the region, but it is over my head. So it is clearly a fault-type escarpment. It is interesting how these sources differ over the wording about it--most "rugged precipice" of the US, "greatest sheer drop" (or "considered" to be), etc. For this article I would want to avoid superlatives, except perhaps "one of the most..." type statements. Better to summarize the facts about it being a fault escarpment of dramatic height. I'd avoid words like sheer and steepest. A 10,000 foot gain over 5 miles is a lot, but far from "sheer". I know of a place in British Columbia with a gain of about 8,000 feet over less than a mile, "near-sheer" (see Cayoosh Creek for more about it, and yes, this is not in the US and most sources say "most rugged/steep/etc in the US, but the wikipedia page says used to say "...in North America"). Pfly (talk) 17:38, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Well maybe I'm running this into the ground, but if it IS the steepest in N.A., the article should state that. Mt Whitney is not "one of..." etc. So, I e-mailed Bureau of Land Management asking what their source was, and they kindly sent me a PDF of a newspaper article (Palm Springs Desert Sun 8-22-04 p.E3) written by James Cornett M.S., Curator of Natural Sience, Desert Museum and staff biologist with UC Extension. I know this satisfies Wikipedia policies, so please check it out and let me know if this reference is good enough to change the article's sentence. Regards, Marcia Wright (talk) 00:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The Desert Sun appears to be a mainstream newspaper, and Cornett doesn't appear to be a gossip columnist, so it would be considered a reliable source.  Will Beback   talk    00:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

 * First, let me reiterate that the word "steepest" is absolutely incorrect in this context. "Steepest" means "closest to vertical." Any dead vertical drop, of any size, is far steeper than this one. The fact is, there ought to be a single word in English which means "some combination of big and steep", but there isn't, so people use "steep" incorrectly when they mean "big and steep", or more precisely, "steep considering the particular (large) scale of this feature". So I would not support putting the phrase "steepest escarpment in the (whatever)" in the article. The article already notes quite explicitly that the escarpment is relatively steep for being so big. Why change it?

 * Now, the escarpment is very tall, and it may be the tallest in the contiguous U.S., or even in the U.S. or in North America. But e.g. the Sierra Escarpment, measured from the top of Mt. Whitney, is right around 10,800 feet to the bottom of the Owens Valley. And I wouldn't swear that some of the (significantly) bigger vertical drops in Alaska are not primarily fault scarps. (You can't have a large nonvolcanic mountain without a lot of faults, after all.) So I would be a bit unsure of a statement that definitively said it was the tallest even in the contiguous U.S., and very dubious about one that went any further in geographic scope. The only reference given above for an absolute superlative is for "steepest", which is clearly incorrect, so I don't think there is any reason to change the article at present. -- Spireguy (talk) 03:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It is my understanding that "steep" refers to the angle, if the angle moves to straight vertical, it is then "sheer" or "precipitous"-close to vertical. I ideally would like to know from where Mr Cornett got his statement from, tracing the source, as it were. I cannot find an e-mail for him even though he has a regular newspaper column as well as listed on the UC directory. I am working on expanding the national monument article, so this discussion here is important as I was considering adding the statement to that article as a direct quote, referenced, of course. I'll reconsider that. Regards, Marcia Wright (talk) 05:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

 * I believe the difference between San Jacinto and the Sierra Navada escarpment is that many peaks of the highest peaks in the Sierra are set back from the valley floor with intervening foothills or hanging valleys. One of the more dramatic escarpments is probably Lone Pine Peak. However its summit is about 9.5 miles from the low point of the valley, which is about 9000' lower. The difference between San Jacinto and the nearest low point of Banning Pass is about 9300 and a distance of 6.7 miles. Now the Owens Valley is far broader than the Banning Pass, but it shows that the values are comparable. Or another way of putting it is that the lowest point five miles from the summit of Mt. Williamson (14,381') is at about 5600' (net diff=8791'), while the lowest point 5 miles from SanJac is at about 1400' (net diff=9434'). That's not a huge difference, but it's significant.   Will Beback   talk    06:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

 * For what it's worth, I have long believed that superlatives are the #1 source of misinformation (get it? get it?)--on Wikipedia and in general. There may well be a number of reliable sources that claim something is the steepest, tallest, most this or that, etc, but even so I think it is wise to err on the side of caution. The phrase "one of the..." means it is among the most whatever-is-being-measured and may even be the most. I like that for suggesting the possibility of being the #1 most but leaving open the possibility that there may be something even greater out there somewhere. If others find "one of the..." too weaselly, then perhaps superlative claims should explicitly say who is making the claim, in the text as well as the footnote. Also, I agree with Spireguy that the word "steep" is a poor choice of words. Just some thoughts from Wikipedia's #1 anti-superlative editor! Pfly (talk) 06:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Good points here. And for the record, I've read alot of debates on various talk pages regarding truth vs. reliable/verifiable and I would put myself closer to the truth side of the scale. Misinformation has no place on Wikipedia, even if well-intended/good faith effort. I found this statement from BLM's webpage on the NM: Down below in the Coachella Valley, elevations range from below mean sea level to several hundred feet, resulting in an abrupt vertical relief of more than 10,000 feet on the steep eastern face of San Jacinto Mountain, and exceeding the vertical relief in most other parts of the contiguous United States except Death Valley. (emphasis mine). So the statement in both articles should remain "one of.." to avoid accidental misinformation. Good argument, thank you. Marcia Wright (talk) 14:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing all of this research. I can't see any escarpments in Death Valley as abrupt as San Jacinto. Telescope Peak has lots of foothills. There may be shorter mountains that are steeper than Snow Creek, even if not as tall. I guess it gets back to the question of how to define "escarpment" and how to weigh steepness versus net altitude gain. Anyway, we're on safe ground calling it "of one".  Will Beback   talk    18:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Accuracy of Muir's statement
The article currently says, "Naturalist John Muir wrote of San Jacinto Peak, "The view from San Jacinto is the most sublime spectacle to be found anywhere on this earth!" " This statement may not be accurate. In The San Jacintos, a book I have, the authors write about the quote (page 195, footnote 1), "We have been unable to verify that John Muir ever climbed San Jacinto Peak. He visited Thomas Ranch with the National Forest Commission in 1896, but stayed only one day and did not approach the mountain." Chisme (talk) 00:43, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

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Talk:Conifer cone

Shouldn't the title be singular, as in "Conifer cone"? I would have moved it, but there is already a redirect at "Conifer cone". However, this should redirect there, not as it is. I just don't know how to move it without misplacing the edit history. --DanielCD 18:06, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * It should really be, yes, but I've always felt it is more bother to move than it is worth, as the page is only ever linked in a piped link as cone (since cone inevitably has to be a disambig page) - MPF 10:43, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Immature photo ?
In the article : "The photo (right) shows mature male pine cones shortly after pollen release." Title of the picture : "Pine cones, immature male.jpg" I don't know which is right.
 * They are mature, after pollen release; note how the scales are open and dried-out. For comparison with immature male cones (not yet shedding pollen), see Image:Pineflower9538.JPG - MPF 10:43, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Let's elaborate on how the scales flake back when the cone becomes dry.

na stuff that, lets eat it and get a mickie d's while we're at it.!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.3.121.152 (talk) 18:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Reword
The first sentence should be reworded. The term "cone" is applied to strobili in general, not just those of conifers. --Schzmo 20:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I added a sentence talking about strobili. What do you think? Gary 21:14, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Not sure. Since this page is only a subtopic of strobilus, I would like the first sentence to say what a cone is, without seeming to say that the word "cone" is unique to conifers. --Schzmo 12:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I find the title for this page to be very awkward, given that no one uses the phrase "conifer cone" when speaking of the cones of conifers. Why not simply call this page "Cone" or "Cone (botany)", and specify its context in the disambiguation page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.119.252.190 (talk) 19:13, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Scrapbooks?
Maybe I'm missing something, but "Pinecones can also be used for various things such as scrapbooking" seems incredibly strange and random. It's been here for a while, so I'm hesitant to remove this sentence, but I'd propose that, if it's going to stay, someone elaborate (how is a pinecone used for scrapbooking?) and move it to somewhere other than its current placement, which seems arbitrary. Yes i agree Fogster (talk) 23:20, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

More images needed
This is pathetic! Aren't there any sites with zillions of pictures of every kind of pine cone? -74.75.213.191 (talk) 00:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Pine nuts?
Some mention of pine nuts should be made here. After all, they are a major reason for human interest in the cones (if I may be forgiven for taking myself as representative). I'm not sure how this should be done, though. 87.70.171.112 (talk) 10:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Fruit?
Is a pine cone a fruit? A pod? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.118.100 (talk) 07:25, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

 * Neither; it's a strobilus, commonly called a "cone".--Curtis Clark (talk) 13:44, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Pine Cone
A black & white photograph was recently added with the caption "A pine cone (Israel)", but with no species identification. Another editor added a "tag" requesting species ID. It seems extremely unlikely that anyone could identify the species from a 2-dimensional photograph with no scale to indicate the size of the cone and no needle characteristics. I would also question where the photograph was taken; even if the photographer was from Israel, that does not confirm that the pine cone is native to that area of the World. I propose that the photograph be deleted for lack of information. The photograph is already shown on another page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Tal. 74.240.50.159 (talk) 12:45, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * There are some other photos of unidentified specimens in this page as well (a few of them are of quite low quality compared with this one):
 * Home-made pine cone cow
 * A pine cone covered in ice after an ice storm
 * Male cones of a pine
 * Immature female pine cone -
 * So an equal criteria should be applied anyway. True, the specific cone is not identified (yet), but one should consider the overall contribution of photo (if any) before deleting it. I have already put some other photos without knowing the exact terminology (e.g. swan - A feeding Mute Swan in ice-covered pool, Hanover), which were later identified by the expert Wpedians. Patience, pls. Etan J. Tal 13:52, 9 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Etan J. Tal (talk • contribs)
 * User:MPF identified this specimen as An Aleppo Pine cone. Hope this settles the issue... Etan J. Tal 15:16, 9 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Etan J. Tal (talk • contribs)

I've just had a look at this page to see whether I can recommend it; on the whole, yes, but I've a few points: in Pinaceae, surely the bracts subtend the seed scale, not the other way around as written; perhaps they mean gametes, not gametophytes; In Araucariaceae, the bract and seed scale aren't nesessarily fully fused (in Araucaria, for example); in Taxaceae I'm not sure that it's universally accepted that the aril is derived from the seed scale. Hope I haven't offended good form here, Pete Michna.131.111.119.26 (talk) 13:34, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Biological function
The page as it stands doesn't seem to have a clear explanation of the biological function of the cones, and how they achieve it. It's implicit in lots of the discussion (the mention of male and female cones, the pollen dispersal, the brief mention that dry weather is a good time for wind-based seed dispersal). Would it perhaps make sense to have a section before the discussion of the different types of female cone of this? That was the reason I just came to this page, and I think I've gleaned enough (particularly from the Pinaceae cones section), but I don't feel confident to write the new section myself. Story Weaver (talk) 14:49, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

spiritual connection to pine cones
hey wondering if anyone has any good information about pine cones and their connection to the pineal gland. there is reference to this is many cultures. not sure if this would just need it's own page or if it could be a section under conifer cone. cheers

"cultural uses" section woefully incomplete
I was surprised to find that the "Cultural uses" section was lacking any mention of the many uses of conifer cones throughout history as esoteric or occult devices, such as the thyrsus, or as an artistic motif, such as with the the Fontana della Pigna. Surely some mention of the pineal gland and its etymological, figurative and metaphoric ties to the pine cone would also be appropriate. Bricology (talk) 20:04, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved.  Calidum   03:28, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Conifer cone → Pine cone – Common name 150.250.5.21 (talk) 06:48, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, kind of. This would change the scope, however, wouldn't it? We can call a yew berry a conifer cone because it's technically true, but would anyone call a yew berry a "pine cone"? Dekimasu よ! 13:18, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - pines are only one genus of conifer. --Nessie (talk) 15:11, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose; current title precisely identifies the topic of the article. "Pine cone" is a subtopic. Plantdrew (talk) 20:29, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

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Cones in cycads, etc.
A good-faith editor added a dictionary-like definition as the lead paragraph. I reverted for now pending discussion. A particular point is how cycad cones should be handled in this article. Defn. added:

>>>Seed-bearing organ on gymnosperm plants. A type of fruit, usually woody, ovoid to globular, including scales, bracts, or bracteoles arranged around a central axis, especially in conifers and cycads. <<<

Cheers, Facts707 (talk) 13:07, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

it’s not a fruit
i deleted a type of fruit as only angiosperms fruit 193.119.80.98 (talk) 09:12, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Botanically that's not correct however. Invasive Spices (talk) 13 July 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Mount Umunhum

Hiking is legal
Hikers are only arrested at the AFB. There is a public road and hiking the mountain is not illegal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.71.26 (talk) 01:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

The road is private 1.3 miles above the gate. If you go further, you risk being arrested/cited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.106.234.174 (talk) 07:42, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Hummingbird
The derivation of Umunhum from "humminbird" may be disputed. See http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0043-373X(195410)13%3A4%3C268%3ASCUCSD%3E2.0.CO%3B2-A. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

The Links
Somebody keeps taking off the Summitpost link, as well as other links. It's getting kind of annoying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrgooseskin (talk • contribs) 00:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Note that the Summitpost.org link doesn't work and Schwaderer video link says it is private and therefore is unaccessible. Both of these links need to be removed. 67.127.52.93 (talk) 21:37, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

 * I've confirmed the unavailability of the external sources and removed them. In the process, I came across a 10-minute documentary from KQED from last year, and added that. TJRC (talk) 22:59, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

AFB scheduled for demolition?
According to http://www.almadenafs.org/, a site for the Almaden Air Force Station 2010 reunion, "This is the LAST chance to visit the site before it is demolished in the fall."

Anyone have anything from a reliable source that the station is scheduled for demolition? I have read that a cleanup is planned, but nothing indicating demolition. TJRC (talk) 17:09, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

 * As part of the hazardous materials remediation, the majority of the buildings have been stripped of their walls, leaving just bare steel structures for the majority of the buildings. The current EIR includes plans to "demolish" the buildings with the exception of the Cube -- for the Cube, the question remains whether to tear it down or do a seismic retrofit and seal it up entirely.  More information can be found on Midpen's page on the Umunhum project -- Navratil42 (talk) 16:41, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

When was the cube built?
The article now says "The summit of Mount Umunhum is the site of the former Almaden Air Force Station, an early-warning radar station built in 1957 that operated from 1958 to 1980." This suggests the well-known "cube" dates from 1957-- which it apparently doesn't, so a footnote (or something) is needed. Tim Zukas (talk) 00:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

 * I don't think it suggests anything about when the cube was built. It's saying when the station operated.  If you have reliable information that the station became operational before the cube itself was built, we can add a sourced statement to that effect. What's the basis for "it apparently doesn't"? TJRC (talk) 00:32, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

 * "an early-warning radar station built in 1957"-- the reader will naturally infer that that's the cube. The Sperry ad in Aviation Week in Jan 1960 seems to indicate that one cube had been built by then, in Alabama; the Almaden AFB article doesn't spell out that the cube held the APS-24 radar that started in 1961, but looks like it was. Tim Zukas (talk) 00:55, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

 * Sperry Gyroscope never built the AN/FPS-24 radar. They did, however, build the AN/FPS-35 Frequency Diverse SAGE Radar.  The FPS-24 and FPS-35 shared the same support tower with only minor adaptations to the roof pedestal mount and internal equipment provisioning.  The concrete tower at Almaden was constructed initially in late 1959 or early 1960 (date unknown when taking into account "groundbreaking" or actual foundation completion) and when complete (exact date still under investigation), the radar antenna sail and internal equipment were installed.  That FPS-24 radar was tested in evening hours (so as to not disturb television and radio broadcasts) and finally went operational in late 1962 (at which time the original Bendix-built domed AN/FPS-20 search radar was removed).  So contrary to what everyone believes, the existing extant FPS-24 tower was not the original search radar on the site.  This information is from actual account of veteran airmen who served at the site as well as from actual original tower blueprint plans which state the "As-Built" revisions and date.  AAFShistorian (talk) 19:32, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

The article now says "The summit of Mount Umunhum is the site of the former Almaden Air Force Station, an early-warning radar station built in 1957 that operated from 1958 to 1980" which suggests the landmark tower was built in 1957. Easy to fix: substitute "The summit of Mount Umunhum is the site of the former Almaden Air Force Station, an early-warning radar station that operated until 1980." If you don't like non-Mount-Umunhum material in the Mt Umunhum article, that's better-- right?

And easy to fix the AAFS article-- it now mentions the AN/FPS24 and other radars, but doesn't say which one was on the tower that's still there, or when the tower was built. Tim Zukas (talk) 00:26, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

(I didn't see the latest version of the first paragraph, which covers my objections. Hopefully no one will call that too much non-Mt-Umunhum detail.) Tim Zukas (talk) 00:57, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Let's stop calling it the "cube".
Discussions with actual Almaden Air Force Station veterans who served at the site yielded that they were actually offended that people call the 5 1/2 story Mount Umunhum radar tower a "cube", "box", "monolith", "obelisk", etc. Logically, speaking, the structure is nowhere near the actual dimensions of a "cube" and is not hollow like a box. It's also not solid like a monolith and it never had a triangular cap like an obelisk. This building was an engineering marvel made to withstand a near-direct nuclear detonation down in or over the south SF bay area. The Air Force personnel who worked in the radar tower took pride in their duty there and maintained the tower in pristine condition, often garnering awards for the longest running operational interval on this particular AN/FPS-24 radar. It's actual use was a radar tower and since the antenna sail is no longer extant, the remaining building we see today should be simply referred to as a "radar tower". AAFShistorian (talk) 16:35, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

 * It is, however, commonly called the "cube" (or sometimes the "box") as a landmark. ; ; ; ; ; ; ; . The servicemen who served there may not call or have called it that, but Wikipedia is not limited to those persons. TJRC (talk) 01:40, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Until recently, the Air Force had a nearby well-known "Blue Cube" in Sunnyvale, 18 miles NNW. Rairden (talk) 05:33, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Aerial photo of Mount Umunhum summit
My second contribution to Wikimedia Commons, uploaded today into Category: Mount Umunhum. The article could use a better photo, and more current, but I'm unsure where to put it and don't want to step on any toes here. The summit area will be opened to the public beginning September 18, so article third paragraph needs an update. Rairden (talk) 10:14, 31 July 2017 (UTC) Went ahead to insert this photo into the article Rairden (talk) 05:12, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

 * Rick, it was good to sync up today. I'm glad to hear you noticed my photo; yours is way better, which is the advantage of flying your own plane. Mine had the advantage of being able to sip on a whisky while taking it.  Dicklyon (talk) 05:19, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

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Assessment comment
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C47 crash: confusion on the date
I came here hoping to clear up a discrepancy on the mountain itself: at the crash site of the C47 along the Fish Creek route to the summit, there are TWO plaques cemented nearly side by side to the rock, one dating the crash to Dec. 1, 1952 and the other to Dec. 1, 1953. The sources in the two footnotes here both say 1952, but the text of the article says 1953. Browsing the Internet, I find references to both dates. Anyone know which it is and what is the source of the confusion? I think I'm going to change the article to match the sources listed, but keep an eye on it. Dupea (talk) 04:10, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Dean Paul Martin death
Here is a cite regarding the death of Dean Paul Martin on the mountain: (Not to hard to find, I must say. Searching for Frank Sinatra's mother should produce RS as welll.) --S. Rich (talk) 05:34, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

elevation as per GNIS data
lists elevation at 11,489. I venture this is the more WP:RS (and I can't remember what the sign says at the top -- it's been about 10 years.) --S. Rich (talk) 05:49, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

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Lady Margaret Sackville

Lady Margaret Sackville (24 December 1881 – 18 April 1963) was an English poet and children's author.

Born at 60 Grosvenor Street, Mayfair, Sackville was the youngest child of Reginald Windsor Sackville, 7th Earl De La Warr. She was a second cousin of Vita Sackville-West.

Poetry
She began to write poetry at an early age and when she was 16 became a protégée of Wilfrid Scawen Blunt. With his encouragement, she had her early poems published in periodicals such as The English Review, the Englishwoman's Review, Country Life, The Nation, The Spectator and the Pall Mall Gazette. She published her first book of poems, Floral Symphony, in 1900. In 1910, she edited A Book of Verse by Living Women. In her introduction, she noted that poetry was one of the few arts in which women were allowed to engage without opposition and made a direct connection between women's social freedom and the freedom of the imagination.

When the Poetry Society was formed in 1912, Sackville was made its first president. She had also been the first president of its predecessor, the Poetry Recital Society, formed in 1909. Joy Grant, in her biography of Harold Monro, writes that Sackville "spoke well and to the point at the inauguration, hoping that the Society would 'never become facile and "popular", to turn to a merely trivial gathering of persons amiably interested in the same ideal'. Her half-expressed fears were unfortunately fulfilled: the direction in which the Society was heading soon became obvious—poetry was made an excuse for pleasant social exchanges, for irrelevant snobbery, for the disagreeable consequences of organised association."

Personal life
She had a passionate 15-year love affair with Ramsay MacDonald, recorded in letters they wrote to each other between 1913 and 1929. MacDonald was a widower and repeatedly proposed to her, but she declined to be his wife. His biographer David Marquand speculated that, although social considerations were a factor in her refusal, the main reason was that they were of different religions. Sackville was Roman Catholic, while MacDonald was raised in the Presbyterian Church, later joining the Free Church of Scotland. Sackville never married.

Peace movement
At the outbreak of World War I, she joined the anti-war Union of Democratic Control. In 1916 she published a collection of poems called The Pageant of War. It included the poem "Nostra Culpa", denouncing women who betrayed their sons by not speaking out against the war. Her sister-in-law, Muriel De La Warr, and her nephew, Herbrand Sackville, 9th Earl De La Warr, were also involved in the peace movement. Her brother, Gilbert Sackville, 8th Earl De La Warr, was killed during the conflict in 1915. The spare and angry strength of Sackville's war poems has attracted recent critical attention. Brian Murdoch notes the absence of overt patriotic elements in The Pageant of War and its memorialisation of all the dead: soldiers, non-combatants and refugees.

Later life
She spent much of her adult life in Midlothian and Edinburgh, where she became the first president of Scottish PEN and was elected a fellow of the Royal Society of Literature. She was a member of Marc-André Raffalovich's Whitehouse Terrace salon, where she would meet guests including Henry James, Compton Mackenzie and the artist Hubert Wellington. In 1922, she published A Masque of Edinburgh. This was performed at the Music Hall, George Street, Edinburgh, and depicted the history of Edinburgh in 11 scenes, from the Romans to a meeting between the poet Robert Burns and the writer Sir Walter Scott. Sackville lived at 30 Regent Terrace, Edinburgh, from 1930 to 1932.

In 1936, Sackville moved to Cheltenham, where she lived for the rest of her life. She died of a heart condition at Rokeby Nursing Home, Cheltenham, in 1963.

Works

 * Floral Symphony (1900)
 * Poems (1901)
 * A Hymn to Dionysus and Other Poems (1905)
 * Hildris the Queen: A Play in Four Acts (1908)
 * Fairy Tales for Old and Young (1909) with Ronald Campbell Macfie
 * Bertrud and Other Dramatic Poems (1911)
 * Jane Austen (1912)
 * Lyrics (1912)
 * More Fairy Tales for Old and Young (1912) with Ronald Campbell Macfie
 * Short Poems (1913)
 * Songs of Aphrodite (1913)
 * The Career Briefly Set Forth of Mr. Percy Prendergast Who Told the Truth (1914)
 * The Dream-Pedlar (1914)
 * The Travelling Companions and Other Stories for Children (1915)
 * The Pageant of War (1916)
 * Three Plays for Pacifists (1919)
 * Selected Poems (1919)
 * Poems (1923)
 * A Rhymed Sequence (1924)
 * Three Fairy Plays (1925)
 * Collected Dramas: Hidris, Bertrud (1926)
 * Romantic Ballads (1927)
 * Epitaphs (1926)
 * Alicia and the Twilight: A Fantasy (1928)
 * 100 Little Poems (1928)
 * Twelve Little Poems (Red Lion Press 1931)
 * Ariadne by the Sea (Red Lion Press, 1932)
 * The Double House and Other Poems (1935)
 * Mr. Horse's New Shoes (1936)
 * Collected Poems of Lady Margaret Sackville (1939)
 * A Poet Returns: Some Later Poems by Lady Margaret Sackville (1940) edited by Eva Dobell
 * Tom Noodle's Kingdom (1941)
 * Return to Song and Other Poems (1943)
 * Paintings and Poems (1944)
 * The Lyrical Woodland (1945)
 * Country Scenes & Country Verse (1945)
 * Miniatures (1947)
 * Tree Music (1947)
 * Quatrains and Other Poems (1960)

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Why is Colchester castle described as a royal castle? Rich Farmbrough 18:12, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Its royal as in royal approval was given but thats true for all castles. So thats wrong. TAS 08:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Origins
Didn't colchester date back to roman times? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.208.107.68 (talk) 06:47, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

 * who built the COlchester castle? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.190.66 (talk) 19:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Have a look at this for most answers. Colchester was an important Roman town and has continued until today. The castle is built on the site of a Roman temple, using salvaged Roman materials. It was built soon after the Conquest by the king's steward and reverted to royal possession in 1120. Depends how "royal castle" is defined - this one was not built directly for the king, but became a royal possession. As a matter of courtesy, always sign your posts. Folks at 137 (talk) 11:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Largest keep
The Castle's own website has: "the largest keep ever built by the Normans" . It goes on: "The huge size of the temple meant that the keep of Colchester Castle was the largest ever built in Britain and is the largest surviving example in Europe." . That's good enough for me. But the article refers to a book by Friar, which I don't have access to. Could someone please look at it? The massive thickness of the keep walls could also be worth a mention. --Wikiain (talk) 00:21, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

 * It was me who added that. Friar said England, but I don't think he contradicts either of the claims above so feel free to add those sources to the article and make the necessary changes to the phrasing. Nev1 (talk) 00:33, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Done, and a bit more. --Wikiain (talk) 01:55, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Ownership
The "story so far" suggests that the Castle remained in the Gray/Round family until it was given to the town in 1922. But it was given by Weetman Pearson, 1st Viscount Cowdray, an industrialist who had been MP for the town and was then its High Steward: this is recorded on a plaque on the Castle (I have a photo). Ownership might or might not be compatible with continuation of a trust. --Wikiain (talk) 02:10, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

 * My understanding (I wrote the Ownership section) was indeed that it was held in trust right into the 20th century, as I recall with philanthropy in mind. According to the BBC, Cowdray simply donated the money needed for the town to buy it from the Round family and have it opened as a museum, which isn't implausible as a simplification. Other sources suggest, however, that he basically bought it himself in order to donate it, then immediately donated it, which sounds the most likely suggestion . I'll be in Colchester today and I can check for you. - Jarry1250 [Who? Discuss.] 08:42, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I look forward. In the meantime, I've put my photo of the plaque and some other relatively high-res (10 megapix) photos of the Castle, all taken in 2009, into Wikimedia Commons. The photo of the memorial to Lucas and Lisle has been put into their articles, as well as that on the siege - because, unlike other available photos of it, the inscription is readable on enlargement. --Wikiain (talk) 05:35, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Excellent. A book on the Round family notes it was in the possession of the Round family until 1917 (or just after), when Cowdray offered to buy it. This seems to confirm the idea that the bought it and then donated it. - Jarry1250 [Who? Discuss.] 16:53, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Most excellent. Please amend as you think fit. --Wikiain (talk) 17:39, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

crossection of the castle
http://www.flickr.com/photos/britishlibrary/11069056413/

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Crummy 1994
Is dated 2001 in the references section. Same source? Keith-264 (talk) 11:21, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Phillips too. Keith-264 (talk) 11:36, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Took a punt on correcting the references, checked for dupe wikilinks, dupe ref parameters, auto ed, cite check and split a few overlong paragraphs. All suggestive, rv as desired. Keith-264 (talk) 13:00, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

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4th Highest, Not Third.
It's actually the 4th highest, the third is Mt White is the nearby White Mts. It is the Third highest in the Sierra Nevada. 2600:1700:53B0:5790:B8C0:DF1B:DE76:22D8 (talk) 13:47, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

 * Hello! This is the article for White Mountain Peak in the White Mountains, not the Sierra. Did you mean to add this to a different article's talk page? Penitentes (talk) 14:11, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

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