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Gutnius Lutheran Church

The Gutnius Lutheran Church, formerly the Wabag Lutheran Church, is a Lutheran body existing in Papua New Guinea. Gutnius means "Good News" in Tok Pisin. It was established by the Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod in 1948, shortly after the Australian administration of the Territory of Papua and New Guinea permitted missionary activity to spread into the western highlands. The church counts 125.000 parishioners, largely confined to Enga Province in the western highlands. It operates Immanuel Lutheran Hospital and St. Paul's Lutheran Secondary School (Pausa) at Wapenamanda, Enga Province. The church has other health and educational institutions as well.

It has suffered some attrition in numbers as fundamentalist and charismatic sects based in the United States of America have conducted aggressive proselytising activities among its members in the Enga.

In recent decades the church has increasingly established ties with the longer-established, theologically more liberal, and liturgically more conservative Evangelical Lutheran Church of Papua New Guinea. It co-operates with the Evangelical Lutheran Church in conducting clergy education and, with that Lutheran denomination and the Anglican Church of Papua New Guinea, in operating the Balob Teachers College in Lae.

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Longview (song)

"Longview" is the debut single by American rock band Green Day. It is the fourth track on the band's third studio album, Dookie (1994), released to radio on February 1, 1994. It was physically released on June 6, 1994. The song was the band's first single to top the Billboard Modern Rock Tracks chart in the U.S. The music video for the song received heavy airplay on MTV and is largely credited for breaking Green Day into mainstream popularity. It was directed by Bay Area music video director Mark Kohr, who later collaborated with the band on future music videos.

In 1995, Green Day received four Grammy Award nominations, including Best Hard Rock Performance for "Longview". The song was ranked at number three on the list of the "Best Singles of 1994" by Rolling Stone.

Concept
The song describes intense boredom and frustration with an inability to self-actualize. Lyrically, the song is about a day spent sitting around the house, doing absolutely nothing of importance and masturbating until the days are no longer fun. Bassist Mike Dirnt has stated that the famous bass line intro to this song was written one night while he was high on LSD.

The song is named after the city of Longview, Washington.

Reception
PopMatters listed "Longview" as the seventh best Green Day song, citing "This song didn’t become an instant classic of its genre merely because Armstrong said the word "masturbation" on the radio—it's all in the delivery." Entertainment Weekly placed it among their favorite Green Day songs.

Music video
"Longview" has a music video, which is the first one created by Green Day. The music video was directed by Mark Kohr, the cinematography was by Adam Beckman, and the editing was by Bob Sarles. The music video received frequent airplay on MTV upon release.

The music video takes place in a dimly-lit basement of a broken-down house in Oakland, California, where the band used to live. The band members say that the look was intentionally grungy. In the video, Billie sits on a couch and watches television. At the end of the music video, he goes insane and tears up the couch, with feathers flying everywhere.

The music video was nominated for three MTV Video Music Awards in 1994: Best Group Video, Best Alternative Video, and Best New Artist. The video is also included on the DVD International Supervideos!.

Track listings
First pressing
 * 1) "Longview" – 3:59
 * 2) "Going to Pasalacqua" (live) – 4:12
 * 3) "F.O.D." (live) – 2:44
 * 4) "Christie Road" (live) – 3:49

1995 re-issue
 * 1) "Longview" – 3:59
 * 2) "Welcome to Paradise" (live) — 4:05
 * 3) "One of My Lies" (live) — 2:25

Card sleeve
 * 1) "Longview" – 3:59
 * 2) "On the Wagon" – 2:48
 * 3) "F.O.D." (live) – 2:44
 * All live tracks were recorded on March 11, 1994, at Jannus Landing, St. Petersburg, Florida.

7-inch vinyl box set
 * 1) "Longview" — 3:59
 * 2) "Welcome to Paradise" — 3:45
 * 3) "Coming Clean" — 1:35
 * 4) "Chump" (live from Stockholm, Sweden; Same version on Live Tracks) — 02:39

Personnel

 * Lead vocals and guitar: Billie Joe Armstrong
 * Backing vocals and bass: Mike Dirnt
 * Drums: Tré Cool
 * Lyrics: Billie Joe Armstrong
 * Music: Green Day
 * Production: Rob Cavallo, Green Day

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Talk:Canada/Archive 1

Conformance to Wikiproject Countries
I changed this article to follow the guidelines set out at WikiProject Countries. However, I removed a large amount of (good) text that was just too detailed for this page; it should be moved to more appropriate locations (mostly History, and Québec, maybe a separate article on Québecois separatism?). I left the Canadian culture section open, ditto for the holidays table, hoping you Canadians (there's several of you would fix that for me). Please go ahead! Jeronimo

 * OH, and could somebody resize the coat of arms to a 125 pixel width? My imaging program's expired and I'm too lazy to get another one...sorry.

Quebecois independence
re: "In the second half of the 20th century, the French-speaking province of Quebec has sought independence, but two referenda have been defeated, albeit marginally in the last case (50.6% was against independence)"

...shouldn't it say "factions within the province" have sought independence or something like that? - stewacide 19:49 Dec 20, 2002 (UTC)

Absolutely it should....Elliot

...Given the obfuscation practiced by the separatists and the wording of the referendum (which did not mention independence), its hard to say what Quebeckers thought they were voting for in the referendum. The soft separatists probably thought that they were voting for a better deal for Quebec within Confedration. A vote for independence was more how the rest of Canada and the hard-core separatists saw the vote. I'm not sure how to rephrase the statement. Edmilne 20:23, Nov 24, 2003 (UTC)

Better Map ?
Does anyone know of a place to get a better map of Canada than the one on this page? I've looked at gc.ca, and not found much. We need something that shows provincial boundaries and is up to date to include Nunavut. matt 01:02 Feb 6, 2003 (UTC)

I hate to be a downer, but I don't think we can use the map. Check the copyright notice on the site at http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/notice_e.html. One is allowed to use the map, for non-commercial purposes only, but I don't believe that is compatible with the GFDL. Someone could sell a copy of the Wikipedia on CD-ROM (of course, it would still be under the GFDL and free-as-in-freedom and all those good things). What's everyone's take on this? I think the Canadian rules differ (unfortunately) from the American ones, which seem to place most materials into the public domain. Dze27

 * I've just written into the the apropriate email alias to request permission to use the image given Wikipedia policy. If anyone can find a similar quality map in the public domain, I say replace it...but the previous map was sorely lacking.  matt 04:31 Feb 6, 2003 (UTC)

 * OK. Hopefully they'll say yes. I work at a different Canadian government department but I'm not sure how much leeway there is (we have the same policy). Hopefully they'll let us use it since it's colorful and up-to-date. The .gif does identify NRC as the source department, and we're not representing it as official. We can't really guarantee that all "Users exercise due diligence in ensuring the accuracy of the materials reproduced" though... Dze27

Don't sweat, folks. According to Copyright:
 * Wikipedia articles may include images, sounds, or other similar material from external sources with different copyright terms, and which is used with permission or under "fair use" doctrine. In this case, the material will be identified as from an external source (on the image description page, history page, or talk page as appropriate) and copyright holders of that material retain their rights and you must comply with the separate copyright terms for that material.

- Montréalais

The "Mountainous" East
"Eastern Canada is mountainous"? Did something get removed in editing here?Jfitzg

The Prime Minister
"Prime Minister, who is the leader of the political party that holds the most seats in the House of Commons"

As I understand it, the PM is the person who has the confidence of the Commons to run the government. In practice, this is the leader of the largest party but doesn't have to be. A combination of smaller parties or a brakdown in party discipline could produce a PM who is not the leader of the largest party. User: edmilne 23:47 May 21, 2003

Water amount
Moved from article:

 * Canada has one-half of the world's fresh water.

A (Canadian) friend of mine pointed this sentence out to me. It's completely inaccurate. "Common knowledge" is that Canada has one-fifth of the world's fresh water supply, actual knowledge is that it's half THAT, and possibly even as low as ~6%. -- nknight 21:08 11 Jun 2003 (UTC)

 * Both guesstimations are close.
 * 20% in all; 7% renewable.
 * (Source: Environment Canada's fact # 17.)
 * --Menchi 21:51 11 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Re: my last edit
The current formatting is the standard prescribed as WikiProject Countries. If we are to change it here, we must also change it on the country template and everywhere. The new formatting used, however, is problematic for countries with mixed presidential-parliamentary systems where there is no clear-cut head of state and head of government. There's nothing wrong with the current format. --Jiang 18:54, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

 * Discussion continued at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries.

Oil reserves in Canada
There are 311 billion barrels of recoverable oil in the Alberta oil sands compared to 240 billion barrels in Saudi Arabia. Canada as a whole has 366 billion barrels of recoverable oil. The total amount of oil reserves in Alberta alone,which is oil that is recoverable and that which is not currntly economically recoverable is in the range of 1.5 to 2.5 trillion barrels.

Canadas size 2nd or 3rd
The total area of Canada is 2nd in the world. The ranking of 3rd comes when the area of the inland water is not included,although that is usually included in the area of a nation.

''I don't think so. According to the CIA World Factbook, the United States has a land size of 9,158,960 sq km, making Canada 4th after subtracting inland water.''

The article claims that Canada has the second largest land area, after Russia. I thought China was ahead of Canada. The CIA world factbook lists China's land area as 9,326,410 km^2 and Canada's as 9,093,507 km^2. Is the wiki page incorrect? Based on the CIA's numbers Canada would be second in TOTAL area, but third in LAND area.

French in Manitoba..
The article would seem to infer that French in Manitoba is restricted to a section (not a town) of Winnipeg called St. Boniface. While it is true that St. Boniface is the "French Quarter" of Winnipeg, I can personally assure you that French language and culture is alive and well outside of Winnipeg. Southern Manitoba is full of French communities, as a cursory examination of town and R.M. names will reveal. Between French and German, English is considered a secondary language for a large percentage of rural Manitoba. Statistics taken over the years, by various social, commercial, and political concerns have placed the French-speaking (and bi-lingual?) population of Manitoba at anywhere from 15% to 25% of the population. These numbers (unfortunately) do not often reflect the Métis population, who also speak a dialect of French, which today has been homogenized into French in any case.

In summary, this article would gain accuracy simply replacing "the town of Saint Boniface, Manitoba" with "southern Manitoba."

--phrawzty 22:54, Apr 25, 2004 (UTC)

Number of Canadians vs Population of Canada
Where did the 2003 population figure come from? Statistics Canada on its website shows an October 2004 population of 32,040,292. So, where does the inflated 2003 figure come from?--BrentS 22:46, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Regarding the statement in the third paragraph that Canada "has a low population density, there being just 32 million Canadians", is this figure the population of Canada, or is it the number of Canadians? I suspect that many more foreigners live in Canada (like me!) than Canadians live abroad, in which case there could be a substantial difference between the two figures. Even if there is not much numerical difference, it is not strictly accurate to conflate the two groups.... Cambyses 01:36, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

 * I expect the number was taken from Statistics Canada census data. Do they ask not-Canadian residents to complete the census?  Do they ask Canadian non-residents to complete the census?  My impression has always been that it's the number of Canadians living in Canada.  --Caliper 04:11, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

Regarding census data from StatCan, I believe it includes non-Canadian residents including illegal immigrants as well as refugees and permanent residents of Canada.

Messages
Some time in the past few days, someone removed the following from the bottom of the article:

While I can't say the plethera of tables particularly improved the article, the purpose of having a message for something like NATO is to put it on the country pages of all the members of NATO. Basically, I'd rather have them there than not. Is there any particular reason these were removed? --Caliper 20:40, 20 May 2004 (UTC)

I removed them because they are ugly, useless, take up a great deal of space, and are not in keeping with the consesus reached at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries. - SimonP 21:29, May 21, 2004 (UTC)

 * fair enough, but I wonder about the change from Confederation to Federation in the article... considering there's a unique entry on this, Canadian_Confederation, I'll change it to point to that... Krupo 05:44, 23 May 2004 (UTC)

Visible minorities, diversity
I removed this offensive, troll-smelling rant from the Demographics section:

 * It is worth noting in this connection that patriotism and nationalism exists all throughout the world. One particularly egregious example is the Canadian press, which often purports that Canada is more racially diverse than the United States. Many Canadians believe this, when in fact, 87% of Canada is white . Many Canadians are also unaware that slavery existed in Canada's history and that discrimination still exists.

 * POV: a diversity fluff-piece on a City of Toronto web page in a section called "quality_of_life" is a "particularly egregious" example of nationalism in the Canadian press? Please be serious.
 * Factually incorrect: Canadians pride themselves on multiculturalism (often contrasted with the melting pot approach used most famously by the US), not raw numerical diversity.  Although the error of conflating the two is understandable -- Canadian schoolchildren are taught about multiculturalism while the author of the above screed fairly obviously was not -- it is still wrong.
 * Misleading: to push his agenda, the author of the above is wilfuly misusing the statscan statistics. Some facts:
 * The rural population is predominantly white, but the major metropolitan areas are highly mixed
 * In 2001, 94% of immigrants who arrived during the 1990s were living in Canada?s census metropolitan areas, compared with 64% of the total population who lived in these areas. (from same link)
 * proportion of foreign-born Canadians was 18.4% in 2001, second only to Australia
 * "If [the current] trend continues, one in five Canadians will be a visible minority in 2016, up from 13 per cent in 2001. In some places, minorities are already the majority: 59 per cent in Richmond, B.C. and 56 per cent in Markham, Ont."
 * Aboriginals are undercounted, although the impact on the overall visible minority count is unknown (and probably relatively minor)
 * Asserts facts not in evidence: where is there proof that Canadians are unaware that small scale slavery once existed in Canada?
 * Asserts facts not in evidence: where is there proof for the astonishing claim that Canadians are unaware that discrimination exists?
 * Irrelevant: Slavery is utterly irrelevant to this overview article (and especially the demographics section). When this was happening in the 1700s there was global slave trading, particularly throughout the British empire, and the extent of slavery in Canada was neither significant nor particularly noteworthy (it still deserves mention in the detailed Canadian History article, of course).
 * Has nothing to do with Canada: the author of the above is pretty transparently trying to push some agenda in his or her home country. Take it to Usenet or Free Republic or wherever, and leave other countries encyclopedia articles alone.  Canada doesn't exist to be your political football.
 * The link to Black Canadian is a highly non-obvious choice of example to use for discrimination in Canada. Would I be right in guessing that the author is from a country where anti-Black racism is endemic?  In any case, I'd fully support an expanded article about Discrimination in Canada, with coverage of issues such as the ongoing outrageous treatment of aboriginal Canadians by some municipal police departments, the disproportionate rate of incarceration of aboriginal Canadians, the late 80s controversy about Sikh RCMP officers being permitted to wear turbans instead of standard headgear, the early 90s concerns about Asian gangs in the BC lower mainland, and similar matters.
 * Saucepan 07:14, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

 * Good edits, well done. Krupo 14:11, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)

Heavy reliance on natural resources is incorrect
In the first section of the Canada page, the statement "Its economy relies heavily on its abundance of natural resources" is a (perhaps all too common) misconception. The exact proportion depends on how one adds up national accounts, but Statistics Canada's page on Gross domestic product at basic prices by industry at Statistics Canada GDP tablesuggests that the value of the output of primary industries (Agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting + Mining and oil and gas extraction) comprises only about 5.75% of total GDP. The manufacturing sector alone is more than three times the size of the primary industries segment. A more accurate statement would be something like "Its economy is widely diversified. The largest sector is services (comprising segments such as finance & insurance and retail trade); the manufacturing, construction and resource sectors are also important." --papageno 22:50, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

 * How about the change to: "Its economy traditionally relied heavily on its abundance of natural resources, although the modern Canadian economy has become widely diversified." ? Feel free to add more details, I felt this was nice and quick. :) Krupo 02:33, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC)

Canadian Demographics
Perhaps this is my ignorance as a non-Canadian, but under the demographics section it mentions that 39.2% of the population is "Canadian" ... but what does this mean exactly? Also, the total amount is well over 100% ... I assume that people could answer more than one category? I do not know if anyone besides me finds this confusing, but a breakdown similar to the one in the "Ethnic Groups" section of the Demographics of Canada article is much easier to understand. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Aren't all Canadians "Canadian"? CES 04:39, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I think StatsCan goes by self-identification, meaning that 39,2% of the population identified themselves as being Canadian rather than some other name. - Montréalais

 * The choice of "Canadian" for the origin of Canadian citizens first appeared in the 2001 population census. It is somewhat controversial. I do not know what is the official reason for this change according to Statistics Canada. It would need to be researched on their website. -- Mathieugp 14:44, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The census asked for origin of ancestors, not ethnic self-identification. Statistics Canada wanted to remove the "Canadian" choice (all Canadians with a Canadian parent would have Canadian ancestry after all), but there was a political backlash from people who didn't understand the question wasn't about self-identification. The confusion over the question continues, with the ideas of ethnic ancestry versus ethnic self-identification being confused. It's a shame from the point of view of people wanting coherent data. http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census01/Products/Reference/dict/pop040.htm

Even origin of ancestors is difficult these days as so many Canadians are of very mixed ancestry. If I had to check off all of my ancestoral homelands I would be checking five boxes. - Beckie

Canada's contributions to the world
i added this section and it was taken out by simonp. is it really an 'unneeded' section? where should this go? trying to stay out of trouble :-) eyal katz

I think that the reason that it was taken out was that it looks more like boasting than a sober list of Canadian achievements. Thus it breaks our NPOV policy. If I were you I would try to rewrite it in such a way that it doesn't sound quite so much like an advert. That way people are less likely to object to it. -- Derek Ross | Talk 05:23, 2004 Jul 28 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia Eyal, your contributions are very much valued. I do, however, have a number of objections to this section:

- SimonP 05:27, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
 * All Wikipedia country articles follow a set format, and no other country has a contributions section.
 * It is almost impossiblefor such a list to be neutral. For instance the British liked our help in the Boer War, most of the rest of the world didn't.
 * Similarly statements such as us being a "peaceful multicultural nation, with less racial tension than many other places" needs some supporting evidence, otherwise it is just opinion.
 * This information is already gathered in more complete form elsewhere, e.g. List_of_Canadians.

 * I've removed the addition of "Innovations" and "Being a Living Example for", aside from being heavily biased, most of the information is incorrect or missing (i.e. a very vague statement about "a founder of eBay"?). Also, what makes an 'innovation' Canadian? For example, Alexander Graham Bell was born in Scotland and most of his work was done in the US. Does a few years spent in Canada and a transatlantic phone call make him or his work 'Canadian'..?Tremblay 17:08, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Melting pot
For example, Canadians see their country as a mosaic of unique immigrant cultures, a large picture made up of many distinct pieces, rather than an American-style melting-pot.

I have heard comments before similar to the above sentence from several Canadians, but personally as an American the word "melting pot" stirs up images of 19th-century campaigns to "re-educate" Native Americans and other minorities and seems as outdated as phrases like the "white man's burden" and "Manifest Destiny". In school, the phrase I learned to describe our multiculturalism is a "salad bowl". The "American-style melting-pot" statement seems POV and an unnecessary jab at the US. We can both be salads, you know =) CES 05:49, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * This is a term I'd also like to see someone expand upon. I grew up in rural Canada hearing about the American melting pot, while we were multicultural or diverse. I now live in Toronto, the most multicultural city in the world by many standards and I see enclaves of ethnicity everywhere (I live in a neighourhood of Greeks and Asians). But how is this different from, say, New York City? TimothyPilgrim 13:12, Jul 30, 2004 (UTC)

 * I have a feeling there's no difference between what you see in Toronto and New York City. Although the New Yorkers would probably consider themselves to be the "most multicultural city in the world". =)  I think in general this type of issue is raised by misunderstandings on both sides ... there seems to be the perception in Canada that America is a melting pot that forces minorities/immigrants to assimilate into some kind of mainstream culture, but on the other side I think many Americans would be surprised to know that there even are minorities in Canada, let alone that Canada claims to be the more "multicultural" of the two countries.  I'm going to remove the word American-style from the article, although I think the whole sentence should be replaced by an example of a more recognized difference between the two countries, or a discussion on why Canada is a salad and America a pot (personally I think anyone would be hard pressed to find a large difference between the two countries).  It seems like the goal of both governments is the same: to foster diversity and encourage multiculturalism, but at the same time have a collective identity as "Canadian" or "American".  The word "multicultural" focuses on the former part of the plan and "melting pot" on the latter, but in practice it seems like the result is the same. CES 01:33, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I'd just like to point out that it was not only amercans who campaigned for the re-education of native americans but canada too. the drive behind the campaign actually came from the catholic church and not from any specific government entity. unfortuneately there is a dark history behind the campaign aswell and also is a completely other topic for discussion.-- Larsie 18:27, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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University of Miskolc

The University of Miskolc (before 1990: Technical University of Heavy Industry) is the largest university of Northern Hungary.

Location
Most of the buildings can be found in Egyetemváros ("University Town"), a part of the city of Miskolc. Its area is about 850,000 square metres. The Béla Bartók Music Institute, which became a faculty of the university in 1997, can be found in the downtown, in the so-called Palace of Music. The Comenius Teacher's Faculty, previously Comenius Teacher's College, which became a faculty of the university in 2000, can be found in Sárospatak.

History
The university was established by act of parliament in 1949. The university is the successor of the University of Mining and Metallurgy of Selmecbánya (established in 1735)—thus adopting its school traditions as well —which was one of the first schools under non-ecclesiastical control in the Habsburg Empire. After the Ausgleich the name of the Selmecbánya university was changed to Royal Hungarian Academy of Mining and Forestry.

When Hungary lost its northern territories to Czechoslovakia after the Treaty of Trianon, the academy was moved from Selmecbánya (now Banská Štiavnica, Slovakia) to Sopron.

During the Socialist era of Hungary the northern parts of the country were developed into an important industrial zone. According to this the government decided to have a university founded in Miskolc, the largest city of the area. The construction began in 1950. The University of Miskolc bore the name of Communist dictator Mátyás Rákosi at that time. In 1952 the metallurgy faculty moved from Sopron to Miskolc, and the mining faculty was divided between the two cities until 1957, when this faculty moved to Miskolc too. The faculties that stayed in Sopron formed the University of Forestry, which later became a part of today's University of West Hungary.

From 1969 to 2000 the Metallurgy College of Dunaújváros belonged to the university.

During the 1980s the university, where formerly only subjects concerning heavy industry were taught, began to change its profile. A faculty of law was formed in 1981, followed by a faculty of economy in 1987. Accordingly, the name of the university was changed from Technical University of Heavy Industry to University of Miskolc. The arts faculty was formed in 1992, and the Music Institute (founded in 1904) joined the university in 1997.

The Comenius Teacher's College, which joined the university in 2000, has a rich history too: it was founded in 1531 as one of the first Protestant colleges of the country, and the famous Czech teacher Comenius taught here in the 17th century.

Currently the University of Miskolc has more than 100 faculties, about 850 teachers and more than 15.000 students.

Faculties

 * Faculty of Earth Science and Engineering (1735)
 * Faculty of Materials and Metallurgical Engineering (1735)
 * Faculty of Mechanical Engineering and Information Science (1949)
 * Faculty of Law (1980)
 * Faculty of Economics (1987)
 * Faculty of Arts (1992)
 * Bartók Béla Institute of Music (1904/1997)
 * Comenius Training College Academical (1531/2001)
 * Faculty of Healthcare(1985/2005)

Notable alumni

 * Anikó Raisz

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Gravity, Molecular Reaction Rates, Relativistic Fields and the Hulk: a Beginners Guide
You claim this article is "a handwritten text dump from a Marvel Comics fan guide." That's a lie, no its not! Removing that page is vandalism. -- 68.49.181.138 01:16, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Please see my response at your user talk page. -- Antaeus Feldspar 01:51, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Karma
Well, golly! Is this some sort of new-age curse, or what? Mellow out man, it wasn't just you I reverted. I understand reverts are rude, but I found all the edits (not just yours, but the protest warriors attempts to misuse the term "liberal" as well) unhelpful. We don't need to take an editorial stance, if you can find someone to quote criticizing protest warriors for abu grahib, or whatever, cite it, and it can stay. Otherwise it?s just a wiki editor spouting off, which is what NPOV is ment to prevent. As far as my Karma, I imagine my copious volunteering here earns me a bit of favor in God's eyes, but not nearly so much as... say how I treat my cat, or my kids, or the Jehovah?s witnesses which keep dropping in on me ;) Good luck, and God be with you, Sam [Spade] 11:46, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Sam, the reason I removed the article from my watchlist was because I was disgusted with your double standards. You claim you are trying to keep things NPOV.  That is not correct.  Otherwise you would be allowing all sides of the debate to be represented fairly.  Instead, you are advocating that the Protest Warriors' opinion that they administer their forums in a fair and open manner be allowed into the article as fact, while insisting that moderate leftists who are being unfairly lumped in with radical leftists must cite an authority simply in order to get their view that they're being misrepresented represented?  No, Sam.  No New Age curses here.  Just saying that I had a choice of giving up the battle, or of continuing to fight it at the cost of sinking to your level.  I chose the former and I'm not sorry I did.  -- Antaeus Feldspar 16:59, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Rex, you are not welcome to post on my user talk page. Not now, not ever. Not under your registered name; not under your sock puppet. I do not care for your excuses, your denials, your justifications, or any of your baloney. You are unwelcome here. That is the bottom line. -- Antaeus Feldspar 06:16, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

David Vetter
cleanup tag; highly suspect copyvio for obvious reasons User:Antaeus Feldspar

What are those obvious reasons? --Alexandre Van de Sande 03:08, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * The style it's written in makes it read like materials from a reading comprehension course, the sort of thing a teacher would give a class after they'd watched a movie or read a story, to check if they were paying attention and understood everything they were supposed to. It's things like "David's parents, Mr. ____ and Mrs. ____" and "clothes all were (select which: pasteurized | boiled | chemicals)" that give that impression:  questions visibly left unanswered in cases where it would have been easier, and would have made a better article, to leave them out until they were answered (I mean, the article is all about David Vetter; if you simply call his parents "David's parents", is anyone going to even notice?)

 * I see that you were the one who posted the original and called it an "experimental article". I'm sorry if you were offended, but I have to say in all honesty:  I don't think the experiment was successful, and I don't think it's a good idea to write articles in this fashion, with blanks and multiple choice questions.  It would be different if MediaWiki had some sort of settable flag that allowed you to say "This article isn't ready yet; don't mirror this one" but, well, it doesn't.  What you might want to try is using the comment tags,     Anything you put between those will stay in the wikisource but won't show up in the rendered article.  -- Antaeus Feldspar 16:38, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Accuracy dispute on Canon (fiction)
Before you put an accuracy dispute on any article it's a very good idea to triple-check your own accuracy. Your changes to the article relegated the definition of "canon" in fiction to a rather ironic "Some say", while you replaced it with the definition of "canon" as it would apply to Biblical canon. But that is why we have one page for Canon (fiction), one for Biblical canon, and a disambiguation page that tells you which is which. Your dismissive comment that what was there before your changes "looks as if it was written by popular-fiction types who know ONLY popular fiction" really begs the question of why they should not be trusted to write the article on canon in fiction. Who are you proposing as a better authority on the subject? -- Antaeus Feldspar 02:12, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * It is certainly not true that the definition I gave would apply only to the Biblical canon. Michael Hardy 02:33, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * No, and I didn't say that you wrote it such that it would only apply to the Biblical canon. But the change that you made to the definition made it more applicable to the "which books are genuine gospel and which are apocrypha" sense of the word, and less applicable to canon in fiction -- which is, again, the subject of the article.  Moreover, your edit summary was an unsubtle insult to those who had been working on the article before you, implying that they don't have the knowledge to write about the term "canon" as applied to fiction because they haven't read....  what?  You've made it clear that you look down on them for not having read something you have, but you fail to make it clear what that something is and why it makes you so much more authoritative on the subject. -- Antaeus Feldspar 04:01, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Dedham, Massachusetts
I doubt there'll be any surprises for you at User talk:Jerzy, but the less that goes on behind your back the better. I think you'll understand everything there, w/o further commentary ... in probable contrast to neo-Rex. --Jerzy(t) 22:09, 2004 Nov 5 (UTC)

 * I appreciate the heads-up. No, it's not in any way a surprise, though I must say I'd have thought neo-Rex had more tactical sense than to announce, in effect, "I will spam your user page until you give in."  Thanks for the warning.  -- Antaeus Feldspar 22:38, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

well-spoken on the arbcom page. Wolfman 18:49, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Thank you. I hope Rex gets some help, soon; he's clearly got serious emotional problems and the more energy he pours futilely into his hopeless quest to make everyone admit he's "right", the deeper he'll plunge...  these ArbCom cases dragging on isn't good for anyone, even for Rex!  He thinks it means he can still "win", winning in his troubled mind meaning driving away or otherwise silencing everyone who disagrees with him.  I'd pity the poor schmuck except that he wore out any patience I had for him long ago.  -- Antaeus Feldspar 00:20, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Extraneous line breaks
Antaeus, for some reason your edits occasionally introduce an extra line break into the text. The latest example is here but I've noticed it several other times. Not a big deal, obviously, because it doesn't show up in the version most people see -- only in the "Edit this page" version. JamesMLane 06:15, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I know about the problem. I really don't know why my browser does that.  It actually can be a big deal, since sometimes it puts the break in the middle of wiki markup and breaks a link or something similar.  Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about it except try to look over the article in both preview mode and in the edit box very carefully and look for anything unkosher.  Even that doesn't always work:  I usually spot a browser-added break in the edit box if it cuts off a line towards the beginning or in the middle, but if the break falls towards the end of a line and it doesn't break up a word or markup, there's almost nothing there to spot.  I'd upgrade to a new browser if I could (I've tried) but until I can completely overhaul this computer, it's not likely to happen.  -- Antaeus Feldspar 06:24, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

comment from the person prohibited to post on this user page removed

 * One of the times it happened, it affected a comment of mine on one of the arbitration pages. So is it your theory that Antaeus Feldspar intentionally messed up something I wrote?  And here I thought he was supposed to be one of my sockpuppets.  Damn, you just can't get good help these days. JamesMLane 06:55, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Red-link recovery
Howdy and many thanks for your work on that list of mis-punctuated links. The list's pretty much completed now - I'll be generating a new version of it in due course, taking all the lessons learned from the last one into account. In the meantime, if you enjoyed working through the list (or at least found it a worthwhile distraction), you may want to have a look at the similar list of plural discrepancies which highlights red-links that might be red because they (or the article they are aiming for) are improperly pluralised. Again, thanks for your efforts - award yourself a wikimedal for janitorial services if you haven't already got one! - TB 11:29, 2004 Nov 8 (UTC)

 * Thank you! -- Antaeus Feldspar 15:05, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you, for the congratulations and for your vote of confidence. It seems congratulations are due you, as well. If Topbanana awards you a WikiMedal for Janitorial Services, you know you've been doing well. Happy editing! SWAdair | Talk 04:13, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * It's honestly very nice to have that work recognized, which I did not expect at all... -- Antaeus Feldspar 17:11, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Concerning admins
I have every right to suggest that he may not be NPOV in this matter. He was heavily involved in the disputed article and used his abilities as an administrator on that article without good reason and as a weapon against other users (to the point that a request for de-adminship would not be outlandish). Therefore I don't think merely asking him to promise he'll leave his newly-gained adminship at the door on this issue, at least for awhile, is unreasonable at all. Reene (リニ) 01:00, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)

 * What adminship powers did he use inappropriately? I've seen the accusation being thrown at him that he could never be NPOV in this matter but this is the first time anyone has mentioned any misdeeds he supposedly committed on the article.  I cannot claim that I've been following all the back and forth on the article in extreme detail (I can barely follow the VfD in extreme detail, with all the churning) but, see, when Ta says that Netoholic has manipulated and abused the process, he provides links to the diffs in question so that people can for themselves see exactly what Netoholic did.  So far, all we've been told is that Ta will do bad things with his adminship; so far from being able to see for ourselves what he's done, we haven't even been told what he's supposed to have done -- only that he will.

 * Merely asking him to promise he'll leave his adminship at the door on this issue is not unreasonable at all. But what you did, as far as I can see, is accuse him of future breaches of integrity after you had already received that promise.  If you want me or anyone else to believe otherwise, you would do best for your cause to actually cite the misdeeds you've seen, so that others can see what you're talking about.  -- Antaeus Feldspar 01:16, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I hardly did that, and it seems to be reaching. Frankly...I don't care enough about the issue right now (there is that pesky surgery I'm still recovering from) to go digging through a massive edit history to find the instances of him (as well as others users) removing "disputed" and "pov" tags, his protecting the page when people were trying to edit it to remove some of the factual inaccuracies and POVness (and I remember looking at what was being removed and agreeing wholeheartedly with its removal- I recall one of them was centered around screenshots hosted on someone's personal webspace). I'm not saying he "will" do something especially now that he said he wouldn't do anything. I said he did. If you dig through yourself you'll notice the page was protected at least once without good reason. Reene (リニ) 02:20, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)

 * Hello... what's this? Is Reene accusing me of something? I wish she would accuse me directly on my talk page so I could respond! I would like to note, in my own defense, that I have never done any administration tasks on votes or articles I was personally involved in (except for rollbacks, and only then infrequently!). Also, for the record, I also agree with Netoholic about those screenshots. They do seem dubious. However, removing the sections without discussion is the problem here, because we run a consensus based website. Oh, incidently, I didn't protect that page, and I never have (it seems Reene is implying I protected it, I could be wrong here). - Ta bu shi da yu 22:04, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Well, that's the way I read it, too, an accusation that you were behind the page being protected. But I for one will not be taking Reene's accusations very seriously until she gives some better reason to believe something happened than the bare assertion that it did.  If she's reading this I wish her all the best in recovering from her surgery and add that if it leaves her too tired to substantiate her allegations, not making accusations in the first place would leave her with even more energy.  -- Antaeus Feldspar 22:56, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Long Stand
You might wish to take a look at Grindersparks also. I'm one of the few who bothers to clear out the old debates that go through vfd, and I often roll my eyes in wonderment at what gets kept... -- Graham ☺ | Talk 01:05, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Poll
I'm not offended by your response or rejection of the poll, but is it really fair to put my name into a poll option? Any chance you can change the option to something a little less confrontational? Thanks. -- Netoholic @ 08:14, 2004 Nov 15 (UTC)

 * I honestly wonder what your standard of fairness is, where it's fair for you to construct and conduct this poll but not fair for your name to appear in it. Zen-master's name appears in it, Kevin baas's name appears in it, FT2's name appears in it, and RyanFreisling's name appears in it; exactly how does it seem not "really fair" that people can choose a poll option which attaches disapproval to your name when you constructed the proposal to attach disapproval to theirs?

 * I'll tell you the compromise I'm willing to make. If you will insert into the poll text the information that you, Netoholic, are the author of this poll, then I will change the poll option text to read "the author of this poll" instead of "Netoholic".  That way you'll be on an even footing; no name will be in the poll options but it will be in the poll text, just like the four others whose names and good reputations you decided should go up for a public vote.  -- Antaeus Feldspar 16:23, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * I have written words to that effect into my vote, and offered to myself join the four in voluntarily discontinuing direct edits of the article. -- Netoholic @ 17:38, 2004 Nov 15 (UTC)

Diane Duane copyvio
That's been there since July Can you hear my teeth grinding? Oh…bugger! --Phil | Talk 18:27, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

the other day
hi, ok, maybe i'll learn more about wikipedia first before doing anything..

Rune mysteries
To be honest, unless someone points out quite clearly at the top that the other two pages are up for deletion, I don't count them in with the consensus because if I can miss them, so can other people who are voting. Sorry I didn't delete those, I feel though that you have to list them separately. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 00:18, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Just relist them, there's not a lot we can do about the previous listing. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 03:13, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks
For guidelines left at User_talk:Gtabary. ( no speedy delete, check "link there",...) --Gtabary 14:36, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

adminship
Have you considered adminship? I'll nominate you if you are interested. Gamaliel 21:43, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I'm flattered, but I'm not sure I'm actually that suited for the job. In particular I'm going through some tough times personally, and I don't have the patience that it seems the job requires.  -- Antaeus Feldspar 21:58, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Sorry to hear that.:( Hope things get better for you.  Let me know if you change your mind, I think this place could use some more impatient admins. Gamaliel 20:53, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

patent nonsense
Heya, could you please be careful what you mark CSD? Patent nonsense is stuff that is either syntacticly or semanticly incomprehensible; Vanity articles are not patent nonsense, nor candidates for speedy deletion. --fvw * † 05:56, 2004 Dec 3 (UTC)

 * "Kaanon MacFarlane is the current Earl of MacFarlane." Now, if there was such a thing as the "Earl of MacFarlane", you'd think a Google search would turn up at least one hit.  Forgive me for thinking that someone claiming a title that does not exist was nonsense. -- Antaeus Feldspar 06:01, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/Universism
Hello Antaeus! I'm not involved in that particular VfD discussion, but I would like to remind you that WP's civility policy applies in edit summaries. Summaries like this one aren't appreciated by everyone and don't help heated discussions. Thanks! --Whosyourjudas (talk) 03:39, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * You're right, it probably would have been better if I hadn't said that. I was not attempting to be uncivil; I was trying to impress upon our newcomers once again that we are not discounting their votes because we don't like their religious stance, and we are not discounting their votes because we assign newbies lower status -- both of those being personal attacks that have been made upon us in this VfD -- but because in order to cast a vote responsibly in VfD, you need to consider it in the light of Wikipedia's established policies, and most of the newbies aren't even getting right simple policies stated directly on the page, like "sign your vote".  I feel sorry for them, that they were falsely told "All you have to do is show up and you get a vote that's counted just as much as anybody's" but I'm also frustrated that instead of chastising Vox for telling them something that was false they're yelling at and insulting us for not making it true, for not turning over our decision-making process to them just because they showed up.  -- Antaeus Feldspar 03:53, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I understand your concerns, and was not accusing you of anything purposeful; we all get frustrated at times. This VfD has problems, and I think whichever admin cleans it up will have quite a challenge.  I don't want to get involved because I don't know enough about the topic, but best of luck - VfD can get bloody.  Cheers, Whosyourjudas (talk) 04:05, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I just wanted to comment on your excellent timing. Just as the Wikipedia article was being deleted for not being "notable" enough, an article and illustration on Universism takes up about half of the Sunday New York Times Op-Ed. I think the Sunday NY Times is the most read paper in the world, second to something in India no doubt. I have my suspicions based on the amount of email today. When an article about Universism starts again, just tell BM not to let his opinion bleed through and everything will be A-OK. He an probably get away with a quote or two from Mr. Horgan. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/12/opinion/12horgan.html --Deist 21:29, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hey whats going on?
Whats with the recent edit to your user page? Is there something I can help you with? I hope your just exagerating some article related dispute, but regardless of if your stress is personal, or article related, I sincerely offer my assistance. You can contact me on or off the wiki, but please let me know whats going on. God be with you, Sam Spade
 * Aye, a second. My door/AIM (whosyourjudas)/email/etc. is always open if you need something.  --Whosyourjudas (talk) 22:02, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project
Hi. You've helped with the WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

re: Hoaxes
Good evening, Antaeus. In the VfD discussion thread for Thishdin, you said that you had two examples of articles tagged as speedy which were at least potentially encyclopedic though obscure. I'm making a collection of those examples to support some eventual recommendations to tweak our processes. Can you please shoot me the specifics? Thanks. Rossami (talk)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

"Impersonal attack"
Personally, I don't care whether you were thinking of me (how's that for irony?), but I hadn't even considered it, as I can't recall having given so much offense to anyone (if I have, they should have taken it to my talk page). The problem with these things is that not only you know very well who you're talking about, the "other side" knows it as well. It's just an indirect invitation for more hostile comments, and, well, that's no good to anyone else but you and the unnamed ones, is it? :-) OK, so this was just a mild ribbing, and no harm has been done. I thought my comment was light-hearted enough to serve as a gentle prod, but now, of course, you make me come here and spell it out, which makes me look like a clod. I hate to sound like the "play nice now, children" type, but sometimes I just can't help it. Feel free to ignore it if it gets on your nerves at anytime; I don't want to presume to tell other people what to do. JRM 00:52, 2004 Dec 11 (UTC)

Hate Groups and NRMs
Your removal of disputed text in the Hate_group is innapropriate and unilateral. We went through two RfCs with no further comments by other editors. My understanding is that in this case the text in dispute stays. If you want to challenge this, please use other methods available in Dispute resolution. Thanks. --Zappaz 20:47, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the help
Thanks Antaeus for the help on names.

Cheapy 00:47, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Mihir
You appear to have added a piece of blatant advertising for an uncompleted product. Please don't.DJ Clayworth 05:42, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * On reflection you may have accidentally re-created a deleted page while altering it. If that was the case my apologies. DJ Clayworth 05:44, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

merry christmas
to you antaeus, or whatever happy holiday is your preference. i'm on a wikivacation, but just popped in to see what's happening -- can't break an addiction in one day i guess. happened by your user page and got the impression that you might be a bit discouraged (or maybe i'm missing an inside joke, in which case nevermind me). anyway, i've been through some very rough times myself, so i've definitely got a sympathetic ear if you'd like to bend it a while. things do get better, it just seems unlikely in the moment. Wolfman 02:51, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * yep, frustrating as hell. i remember the feeling well from those fun times with our dear friend Rex.  back then, khaosworks had an observation that i've found very useful.  now i look at being hypercivil to the idiots and trolls as a way to piss them off or keep them off balance.  sort of a wiki-aikido ("designed to control an attacker by controlling and redirecting their energy instead of blocking the energy").  of course, it doesn't always work, but it's very satisfying when it does.  JML is a master of this, though I don't know if it's a conscious strategy for him.  and i've noticed that he wins just about every battle he fights.
 * another strategy i've found useful is to leave an article alone for a while, and let the trolls have at it. they tend to guard it jealously for a week or so, then wander off.  after a couple weeks, i pop back in and fix it right up.
 * you can always drop by my page if you need a little wiki-backup. (though i'm taking a break for a few weeeks).  i'm sure there are plenty of others who've worked with you and feel the same way.  don't let the bastards get you down.  and have a great holidays. Wolfman 19:08, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Me as well, if you need to talk to anyone i'm a good listener as well. It's been real nice editing with you and collaborating, don't let some idiots ruin your outlook on life.--kizzle 21:56, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)

 * And by the way, Rex's comment is priceless... you have to know everytime I read something from him I literally laugh out loud. I'll tell you one thing, if he truly "won" I don't think he would be as palpably bitter as he is, he'd just shut up and enjoy Bush being president.  Just my two cents... and happy holidays bro :) --kizzle 22:07, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)

Your statement
'' I want to die. What's the use of any of it? you do the best you can and all you get is a kick in the crotch. There is no way to win.''

I just saw your comment at top of your user page. That is an extraordinary statement to make. I don't know if you are serious about it or just trying to make a point. Regardless of our differences and antagonisms, I value life (in me and in others) too much to let this pass without commenting:

The need to do the best we can is inherently human. It is our nature. Kicks in the crotch are just are part and parcel of the fact that that we care and care enough to do our best regardless of outcome. Life is not about winining, but about playing. --Zappaz 03:54, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Alternatively, you could reason that living, when it's bad, is generally still more agreeable than nothing. There is, by the way, a way of winning, but it involves drawing up the rules yourself. That's something most people are not willing to do, or not capable of doing. And if I may, one quote: "there's nothing you can do that can't be done" (look up the rest); and one short poem that's always cracked me up:
 * Razors pain you;

 * Rivers are damp;

 * Acids stain you;

 * And drugs cause cramp.

 * Guns aren't lawful;

 * Nooses give;

 * Gas smells awful;

 * You might as well live.

 * —Dorothy Parker, Résumé

JRM 01:45, 2004 Dec 25 (UTC)

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Pantages Theatre

Pantages Theatre may refer to:

 * Pantages Theatre (Fresno, California), now Warnors Theatre
 * Arcade Theatre, Downtown Los Angeles, formerly known as the Pantages Theatre as it was on the Pantages Vaudeville circuit
 * Pantages Theatre (Hollywood), Los Angeles, California
 * Pantages Theatre (Minneapolis)
 * Pantages Theater (Tacoma, Washington)
 * Pantages Theatre (Toronto), Ontario, now Ed Mirvish Theatre (formerly Canon Theatre)
 * Pantages Theatre (Salt Lake City), Utah
 * Pantages Theatre (Vancouver), British Columbia
 * Pantages Theatre (Victoria), British Columbia, now McPherson Playhouse
 * Pantages Theatre (Winnipeg), Manitoba, now Pantages Playhouse Theatre

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Ceylon Evangelical Lutheran Church

The Ceylon Evangelical Lutheran Church (CELC), formerly known as Lanka Lutheran Church, is a Lutheran body in Sri Lanka. It is a denomination of around 5000 members and has been in fellowship with the Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod (LCMS) since 2001. It is a full member of the International Lutheran Council.

History
In the 1927, the Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod began missionary work in what was then known as Ceylon as an outgrowth of its work in India. The work was centered on the Tamil-speaking Hindus in the tea estate region central Sri Lanka. In 1978, the churches were registered with the Sri Lankan government. In 1998, the LCMS resident missionaries were withdrawn from the country. The name Lanka Lutheran Church was adopted in about the year 2000. In 2001, the Lanka Lutheran Church became a partner church of the LCMS and joined the International Lutheran Council. It also joined the Lutheran World Federation, reporting a membership of 1,200. The church lost its government registration in about 2006. By 2009 it reported having 5,324 baptized members.

In 2013, LCMS missionaries returned and worked to revive the church body. In September 2017, the first convocation of the Ceylon Evangelical Lutheran Church adopted a new constitution; previous constitutions had merely been copies of those of the India Evangelical Lutheran Church. The new name of the church was chosen to show that the Lutheran church had been in the country since at least the 1920s. The convocation also ordained a new pastor for the first time in ten years and established the Ceylon Evangelical Lutheran Publishing House.

Originally named the Lanka Lutheran Church, leadership of the church was assumed by missionaries of the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (LCMS) in 2015, and the name was officially changed to the Ceylon Evangelical Lutheran Church in February 2017. The first pastor ordained into the CELC was Rev. P. Gnanakumar, who had served as a vicar in the Lanka Lutheran Church for more than a decade, and was ordained on 2 September 2017 by Rev. Charles Ferry, the LCMS regional director for Asia. On the same day, Rev. Dr. Edward Naumann, LCMS Theological Educator for South Asia, launched the church's official publishing house, the Ceylon Evangelical Lutheran Publishing House (CELPH). In October 2017 all three pastors of the Lanka Lutheran Church, Rev. Nadaraja, Rev. Arulchelvan, and Rev. Devanesanin, applied and were accepted for membership of the CELC Ministerium, bringing the total number of Sri Lankan pastors to four.

On October 9, 2022, the Ceylon Evangelical Lutheran Church (CELC) consecrated its first bishop, Rev. Arumanayagam Arulchelvan. The consecration was conducted by Archbishop Joseph Omolo of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Kenya (ELCK), joined also by ELCK Bishops Kispin and Titus.

Statistics
The CELC has 16 congregations, of which 5 have their own church buildings. Most of the congregations are located in the Central Province, with one each in the Northern, Sabaragamuwa, Uva, and Western provinces.

The CELC is served by four pastors and five evangelists. Given that there are fewer pastors than congregations, the pastors attempt to visit each congregation at least once a month to administer Holy Communion.

Relationship with other Lutheran bodies
The Ceylon Evangelical Lutheran Church is a member of the International Lutheran Council, but has no official relationship with the Lutheran World Federation. On 26 September 2018, the International Lutheran Council received the CELC as a full member, thus bringing international recognition to the CELC.

The CELC Church Order provides for an episcopal polity, which is not considered to be a point of doctrine, as the church works closely with the LCMS, which maintains a congregational polity. According to its governing Church Order, the CELC classifies all clergy of the LCMS and churches in communion with the LCMS as "recognized clergy" who are therefore granted permission to conduct Word and Sacrament ministry in CELC congregations.

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Talk:Tim Cresswell

Wikifying
I deliberately de-wikified some words and dates as there were too many blue links (I felt) for such a short text. SlimVirgin (talk) 10:46, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)

 * Mel, for future reference, an article is over-wikified if it has more links than lines. This one has 18 links in eight lines. Other guidelines at Manual of Style (links). SlimVirgin (talk) 10:58, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)

Position
Is Cresswell a professor in the English sense i.e. does he hold a chair? SlimVirgin (talk) 23:31, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * He is indeed a professor 'in the English sense'. He was only a lecturer at Lampeter, became senior lecturer at Aberystwyth, then awarded a chair, all in a relatively short space of time. Twrist 10:40, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

He has just left Aberystwyth for Bristol Uni

Who cares? This is really taking fan-dom to the extremes, along the lines of school juniors asking their housemaster whether Cholmondly-Fotheringay is going to captain the first XI this year (‘please sir, please sir, is it true that…’). Some people do really need to get a life…. 17/01/07

The peninsular (sic) of submerged hope
'The peninsular of submerged hope: Ben Reitman's social geography' should really be 'The peninsula of submerged hope...' but I haven't corrected it as it appears that the error appears in the name of the paper. Dave.Dunford 10:05, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Why yet another entry on an obscure academic?
Wikipedia, it appears, has been colonized by academics who seem determined to achieve celebrity status. What is the reason for yet another entry on yet another obscure geographer? Who is doing all this? His cv is no doubt of interest to him and (perhaps) those who employ him, but apart from them, who cares? Is this another entry by el zalamero? If it is, then the latter should be awarded an additional BAPPP, to supplement the one he has already earned (see the discussion about David Harvey). Kip the Jiggler, 17/10/7.

 * Not obscure. He is a prominent geographer, people may want to look him up. Over and out. Zigzig20s 13:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

You are wrong – he is obscure, since there is no contradiction between being obscure and being ‘a prominent [sic] geographer’. As for the fawningly deferential sentiment ‘people may want to look up to him’, this is just sad. No wonder the concept ‘prominent’ as applied by geographers to geographers is so devalued a term, with supplicants crawling around on their knees looking for someone to worship. Kip le Jacker, 18th January, 2007.

 * It's easy. You can sign your comment by typing --~ . It will make everyone's job easier. Thank you!--Francisco Valverde 15:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Someone who doesn’t understand English very well seems to have missed the point entirely. Why do such people intervene, when the issue being discussed goes completely over their head? Or is this just another geographer parading his (her?) erudition? Jic the Knacker, 18th January, 2007.

 * I don't suppose you are talking about me. But anyway...I was just trying to be helpful in reminding you of the use of --~ to sign and date your contribution. You may consult the following link Sign_your_posts_on_talk_pages

Let me quote ''Signing your posts on talk pages and other Wikipedia discourse (but not on articles) is not only good etiquette; it also facilitates discussion by helping other users to identify the author of a particular comment, to navigate talk pages, and to address specific comments to the relevant user(s), among other things. Discussion is an important part of collaborative editing as it helps other users to understand the progress and evolution of a work.'' Perhaps that way "we" so called "geographers" may help you...(!) Apart from that, I understand, my mother tongue, English, perfectly, thank you very much... --Francisco Valverde 18:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

About the above comment one can make the following observations. First, the insistence on a signature carries an implied threat, along the lines of ‘I want to know where you live…’. Given the problem of comprehension, however, this may not be evident to the person making the comment. Second, the continuous harping on an irrelevant theme (‘you must write in black ink, you must write in black ink…’) suggests that the person doing this mistakenly believes that such an intervention constitutes evidence of his/her erudition. And third, contrary to the assertion that English is ‘my mother tongue’, the constructions above (‘we so called "geographers"’ – either you are a geographer, or you are not) and below (‘In the contrary…’) do indeed suggest that English is not a language with which the person making the above comments is comfortable. In short, there is a problem of comprehension. To return to the issue under discussion, broadly speaking entries such as these – about purportedly ‘famous’ geography professors – resemble nothing so much as mini-fanzines, inaugurated/curated by a fan base composed (one imagines) of clients and acolytes (who else would want to do this?). One is tempted to suggest that the apparent erudition of a senior academic geographer labelled ‘famous’ by the fawning subordinates who post his/her ‘achievements’ on wikipedia is an effect less of the intellectual stature of the senior academic geographer concerned and more of the ignorance on the part of the fan/client (‘the ever-so-famous geography professor [fill in name, lots to choose from] discovered penicillin/gravity/the-meaning-of-life/[etc.] in the year 2004’). 20th January 2007.
 * As you please...You don't know me and it seems you won't either... Keep on fighting your own personal war. What a shame...! I won't bother anymore. Bye... "geographer figher"... --Francisco Valverde 12:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Here he is http://www.faculty.uci.edu/profile.cfm?faculty_id=2731 --203.214.69.199 16:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

More sources needed, not just a homepage
We should try not to depend on just a source, and specially, not just a homepage, it is a very biased source to include. Include a few more, please. In the contrary it is easy to be the victim of accusations of being obscure. Anyway, this article has more credit than many others I have read in wikipedia. --Francisco Valverde 14:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Imo this article should be split into a brief biography, and then focus on his ideas. Surely people care about this prominent geographer because he has put forward some interesting ideas about geography. Zigzig20s 15:31, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

The first observation has missed the point, which is why the subject has an entry in the first place. Academic geographers appear to be the object of a promotional campaign via wikipedia. Whether or not any information about the subject of the entry is drawn from a different source is thus irrelevant. As for the second - ‘people care about this prominent geographer’ – oh dear, oh dear, oh dear! This fawning is becoming soooooo embarrassing (the ground is positively covered with drool, and the air smells of incense). Why not nominate the subject of this entry for a Nobel prize, and suggest that he get a knighthood as well? 18 Jan 2007.

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Gerald Hege

Gerald Keith Hege, Sr. (born 1948) is an American retired law enforcement officer who served as the Sheriff of Davidson County, North Carolina from 1994 until 2004. A veteran of the Vietnam War, he became famous for his highly eccentric behavior as sheriff, his internationally known television show, and eventually for the charges of corruption that led to his resignation. He is a Republican, and a former head of the Davidson County Republican Party. Hege's management style as head of the Davidson County Republican Party sparked a rift that nearly split county Republicans. In 2017, Hege published his first novel, Deathbed Confessions. In 2018, the State of North Carolina expunged his criminal records.

Early life
In 1970 Hege was hired as a sheriff's deputy by Davidson County Sheriff Fred Sink. Three years later he shot and killed a suspected burglar near Lexington. He left his job in 1974 after a fight with several inmates.

Career as sheriff
Hege was elected sheriff in 1994 by a margin of 261 votes. One of his better-known campaign slogans was "When I am elected Sheriff, I will wear a uniform every day and there will be no deals for anybody." After his election, all Davidson County Sheriff's cars were fitted with a front license plate proclaiming "NO DEALS" in large block letters.

His personal patrol vehicle was a 1995 Chevrolet Impala with a Chevrolet Corvette engine and nitrous oxide tanks. His department lost its insurance coverage when he boasted that he had driven the vehicle at speeds of up to 140 mph. The car was referred to as "The Spider Car" because of a custom paint job featuring a Black Widow Spider and the letters "DDT." The windows of this and all other patrol cars of the force were tinted dark black.

Hege took Buford Pusser and Joe Arpaio as role models. Hege ordered all deputies to dress in paramilitary fatigues and combat boots; Hege dressed this way himself, despite the tradition of business attire for Davidson County sheriffs. Hege reinstated the use of chain gang prisoner labor. He also removed the television sets and books (except for the Bible) from the county jail. The jail was repainted in pink with weeping blue teddy bears. Prisoners also wore color coordinated jumpsuits to identify their offense: Blue for misdemeanors, green for sex offenders, and orange for felons. The jumpsuits were striped in the old-fashioned manner as opposed to the modern solid color. Hege carried a Heckler & Koch MP5 instead of a service revolver. The sheriff also kept the robes of eight former Ku Klux Klan members whom he claimed he had convinced to retire. Hege also claimed that Mafia hitmen had a bounty on his head, as he interrupted the flow of drugs through Davidson County. These claims could not be verified.

As Hege's national fame grew, he became the star of a Court TV program titled Inside Cell Block F. The show was filmed inside the jail, and the inmates were the studio audience. In addition, Hege appeared on Larry King Live, 20/20, and America's Most Wanted, as well as other programs. Rumors circulated that Hege intended to run for governor of North Carolina, though Hege denied these rumors.

After 9/11, a Christmas card sent out by Hege, featured him in the desert wearing a black jumpsuit, with a bloody sword and the severed head of Osama bin Laden with the title "Happy Ramadan." This sparked controversy.

Ostensibly to raise money for charity, Hege created a line of merchandise centered on his public persona. Hege merchandise items included posters, die-cast "spider cars," action figures, coffee mugs and barbecue sauce. All revenue from this merchandise and his TV appearances was donated to charity.

Charges
As years passed, charges of nepotism, financial irregularities, and mismanagement began to surface. On September 15, 2003, Hege was charged with 15 felonies and suspended from office. The charges were five counts of embezzlement by a public officer, five counts of obtaining property by false pretenses, two counts of obstruction of justice, one count of endeavoring to intercept oral communication, one count of aiding and abetting to endeavor to intercept oral communication and one count of aiding and abetting to obtain property by false pretenses.

Despite Hege's "No Deals" slogan, he eventually accepted a plea agreement.

Out of office
One of Hege's sons (Gerald Hege, Jr.) ran for the office of Sheriff of Davidson County, but was defeated in the May 2006 Republican primary.

Hege had three years of probation, which ended on May 17, 2007 at 12:00 am.

In September 2009, Hege again jumped into the political arena, posting signs and campaigning for the office of Sheriff of Davidson County. On February 9, 2010, he officially filed to run for his previously held job. Had Hege been elected to office, being a convicted felon, he would not have been allowed to carry a gun, although he had claimed he would work to have that privilege restored. The North Carolina Supreme Court's ruling in Britt v. State, No. 488A07 on August 28, 2009 overturned the law prohibiting convicted non-violent felons from firearm possession.

However, all of these issues became moot when Hege lost the May 2010 Republican primary to incumbent David Grice by almost 6,000 votes. Grice carried all 43 precincts in Davidson County. Hege has said that he plans to run again, although the 2010 passage of an amendment to the North Carolina state constitution barring convicted felons from serving as sheriff made another run unlikely.

2018 election campaign
On February 28, 2018, Hege filed to run for the Davidson County Sheriff office once again. According to Hege (and confirmed by Clerk of Court Brian Shipwash) his record was expunged of the felonies he pled to in 2003. A new North Carolina law passed in December 2017 reduced the wait period for application for felony expungements from 15 to 10 years.

In April 2018, the Davidson County Board of Elections denied a challenge to Hege's ability to run for Sheriff and his candidacy was approved. This made the election a four-man race including incumbent Grice, Hege, former deputy Greg Wood and former highway patrolman Richie Simmons. On May 8, the election was held and Hege came in third place behind Simmons and Grice.

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Nick Denton

Nicholas Guido Anthony Denton (born 24 August 1966) is a British Internet entrepreneur, journalist, and blogger. He is the founder and former proprietor of the blog collective Gawker Media, and he was the managing editor of the New York City–based Gawker until a lawsuit by Terry Bollea (Hulk Hogan) bankrupted the company.

Early life
Denton grew up in Hampstead in London, the son of British economist Geoffrey Denton and his wife, Marika (née Marton), a Hungarian Jew who survived the Nazis during the Holocaust in Hungary and escaped the Soviet 1956 invasion of Hungary at age 18. A psychotherapist, she died of cancer the year before her son moved to New York City. Denton has a younger sister, Rebecca.

He was educated at University College School (UCS) and University College, Oxford, where Denton studied Philosophy, Politics and Economics. He also became the editor of the university's magazine, The Isis Magazine.

Career
Denton began his career as a journalist with the Financial Times, a British daily business newspaper. He co-wrote a book about the collapse of Barings Bank, the oldest merchant bank in London, called All That Glitters (1996).

He was a co-founder in 1998 of a social networking site, First Tuesday. That same year Denton co-founded media-monitoring service Moreover Technologies with David Galbraith and Angus Bankes, schoolmates from UCS. Shortly after, he moved to San Francisco in the United States, and in the summer of 2002 he moved to New York City.

Gawker Media
Denton founded Gawker Media in 2002, initially running the company out of his apartment in New York City's SoHo, Manhattan. Gawker Media initially had only two internet sites — Gawker (a news and gossip site) and Gizmodo (a gadgets and technology blog). Gawker Media blogs expanded to include Jezebel (aimed at women), and Deadspin (a sports site), as well as Lifehacker (tips to live life better), Jalopnik (automotive culture), io9 (science, futurism, and science fiction), and Kotaku (video games and culture). In 2008 Gawker sold music site Idolator to Buzz Media, Gridskipper to Curbed, and consumer affairs site Consumerist to Consumers Union. In 2010, Gawker Media attracted 17.5 million US visitors per month. Up until 2012, Denton paid himself a salary of $60,000 a year.

Gawker had revenue of $48.7 million in 2015. Most of its assets were sold to Univision for $135 million following the Bollea v. Gawker lawsuit loss and ensuing 2016 Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Peter Thiel
In 2007, Denton's Valleywag editor Owen Thomas outed Silicon Valley billionaire businessman Peter Thiel as gay in a post entitled "Peter Thiel is totally gay, people." In the comment section of Thomas's post, Denton speculated as to why Thiel kept "his personal life a secret from journalists... for so long." He named "a guy called Matt" as an alleged boyfriend. In response, Thiel called Valleywag the "Silicon Valley equivalent of Al Qaeda". Thiel said the sites were "scar[ing] everybody" and stifling the culture of Silicon Valley, which is "supposed to be about people who are willing to think out loud and be different."

It was later revealed in 2016 that Thiel had paid $10 million in legal expenses to finance several lawsuits brought by others against Denton and Gawker Media, including a lawsuit by Hulk Hogan. Denton publicly blamed Thiel several times for having planned to take down Gawker.com.

Nouriel Roubini
In 2008, after Denton wrote a post labeling economist Nouriel Roubini a playboy who lived in a “vulva-" and "vagina-encrusted Tribeca loft", Roubini reacted by posting a message on Denton's Facebook page, accusing him of "Nazi-style anti-Semitism." Roubini also called Denton an ignorant antisemite with a Nazi mind, a McCarthyist bigot, and a hypocrite, noted that Denton was gay, accused him of being a stalker, and added: “You are a loser and an intellectual dwarf who cannot engage me on my widely respected views on the economy … too bad [sic] was the first one that early on predicted in minute and precise details this most severe financial crisis.”

When asked about the exchange by a reporter for The Guardian, the reporter said Roubini then "reprises the rant, embellishing it with references to the KGB, Denton's sexual orientation, and a sweary suggestion of what the man might do with himself, which he belatedly asks me not to quote.... the piece of art in question is described by Roubini as the work of a highly regarded feminist artist whom he won't name and which doesn't, he assures me, look anything like a vulva." Denton for his part commented: "How can such a brilliant economist, at the height of his reputation, be quite so clueless?"

Christine O'Donnell
On 28 October 2010, Denton published an anonymous kiss-and-tell piece entitled, "I Had a One-Night Stand with Christine O'Donnell". However, according to the writer, O'Donnell only slept naked with the anonymous writer, and did not have sex with him. The National Organization for Women condemned the piece as "slut-shaming". NOW's president, Terry O'Neill, said, "It operates as public sexual harassment. And like all sexual harassment, it targets not only O'Donnell, but all women contemplating stepping into the public sphere." Salon's Justin Elliott criticized the ad hominem nature of the article, tweeting "Today, we are all Christine O'Donnell." Gawker.com reportedly paid in the "low four figures" for the story. Denton defended it, praising its "brilliant packaging."

Hulk Hogan and bankruptcy
On October 4, 2012, Gawker published an extract from a leaked sex tape of former professional wrestler Hulk Hogan. After Denton refused to comply with a cease-and-desist order from Hogan and a court injunction to remove the video, Hogan sued Gawker for violation of privacy. Billionaire Peter Thiel paid Hogan's legal team $10 million, as he was angry at Gawker for in an earlier story reporting that Thiel was gay. On March 18, 2016, the jury found in favor of Hogan and awarded him $115 million, which included $55 million in compensatory damages and $60 million for emotional distress. On March 21, the jury awarded Hogan an additional $25 million in punitive damages, including $10 million from Denton personally. Denton filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on August 1, 2016. On March 22, 2017, Hogan and Denton reached a settlement that allowed Denton to emerge from personal bankruptcy.

Personal life
Denton was featured in the Sunday Times Rich List 2007 in position #502, with an estimated wealth of £140 million based on the sale of his previous companies and the then-current value of Gawker Media.

On 31 May 2014, Denton married actor Derrence Washington. He lives in New York City.

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Hand pay

A hand pay (or handpay) is a condition where a slot machine cannot pay the patron in the typical manner, requiring the casino staff (such as the floor attendant or cashier) to pay the customer out manually (i.e., by hand).

In casinos which use coin in, coin out systems, a hand pay may be caused by a coin jam, inadequate supply of coins in the machine's hopper to pay the requested amount, or another problem with the coin out mechanism. A hand pay can also be triggered when the win is large enough that the number of coins required to pay out the win would be excessive.

In casinos that use ticket in, ticket out (cashless) systems, a hand pay can be caused by communication or other issues with the ticket printer. More frequently, it is caused by communication problems with the server which tracks and assigns ticket serial numbers.

Gameplay
Hand pays also occur whenever the amount of the win is over the minimum taxable win amount for the jurisdiction that the machine is in. Hand paying allows a floor attendant to collect the patron's identification and tax ID numbers (such as the Social Security number in the United States), and other pertinent information, such as the winning combination. The patron is then provided with the applicable tax forms. In the United States, a hand pay will normally occur for slot machine or electronic bingo winnings over $1,199.99, which is the amount above which winnings must be reported to the IRS; some states may have lower thresholds where the taxes must be reported to the state revenue office. Citizens of the United States winning in that country will receive a W-2G tax form, and often a W-9 form to validate that the Social Security number they provided is correct.

To perform a hand pay, a floor attendant may complete a form which the patron presents to the cash cage to be paid out. In other casinos, the floor attendant will retrieve the funds and pay the patron directly. (The latter is typical for hand pays resulting from taxable wins.) Most casinos will require an electronic record of the hand pay to be made through the slot accounting system.

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