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User talk:Davidcannon/archive/2005

 My Talk Archive (2005)

'''Your comments posted on my main talk page throughout 2005 will remain there until I decide the page is too long, when they will be moved to this page. Except in the case of profanity or otherwise objectional content, I intend to keep them here forever. My reply (if any) will be in ''red italics. Older conversations may be found in my 2004 archive.'

= January =

Utilisateur:Davidcannon on Fy
David, someone recreated a page Utilisateur:Davidcannon on Fy:, the Frisian Wikipedia. "Utilisateur" does not mean anything in Frisian, and it certainly is not a namespace. (It probably is a namespace on Fr:, the French Wikipedia, though.) As a result, this page appears in the encyclopedia space in the Frisian Wikipedia. If you mistakenly (re)created this page, would you please limit yourself to fy:Brûker:Davidcannon, except to indicate that fy:Utilisateur:Davidcannon can be discarded? Thanks, Aliter 19:23, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Your edit has been reverted
Hi. You changed a link on Offline reports/This is one of the most linked to redirect pages to bypass a redirect which normally I have no problem with. However, the links on this page should not be "fixed" manually. I have thus reverted your edit. My bot (CanisRufus) also did the same thing of which I immediately reverted and changed the script to skip this page. If you are using a bot to fix redirects, I'd suggest adding this page to the list of pages not to be changed. Otherwise, business as usual. Thanks. RedWolf 19:44, Jan 1, 2005 (UTC)

Hi David
i write back with regards to the reverted redirection message you left me. first, i would like to thank you for the patience, indeed, i am a fairly new user. second, i would like to thank you for the advice and further reading recommended. i guess, it is the lack of knowledge on my behalf that has propelled me to fallow uninformed reason. i was trying to put some order in what looked like a blend of duplicates and non-uniformed structure. i definatelly need to learn more! thank's for the advice

Hello David
How are you? I wrote two articles that I think you might like. If you have the time please look them over and feel free to fix whatever you think needs fixing. The articles are Richie Ray and Bobby Cruz. Enjoy Tony the Marine

Lala Sukuna
Hi David. I noticed you reverted my edit on the Lala Sukuna article. There is actually no such thing as a "Commander (or Knight) of the British Empire". The full titles are Commander / Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire; ie they are members of the Order, not the Empire. In most articles, these are abreviated to CBE, KBE, or whatever. Something such as " he was made a Commander of the Order of the British Empire ..." is generally accepted and reads better than the abreviation. Steve Sc147 20:45, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

= February =

re: List of Wikis - Anarchopedia
As long as the list links to the wiki itself and does not leave a red-link to the now-deleted Wikipedia page, I think that is in keeping with the intent of the VfD decision. Thanks for helping with the maintenance. Rossami (talk) 18:07, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Milestone statistics
As a frequent editor of Milestone statistics, you must know the answer to my question on the talk page about where to find the information contained in the table. In particular, where does one find what day a certain 'pedia passes a milestone? If you wish to, please respond on that talk page. - dcljr 06:11, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thai elections
David do you know of a better source for the Thai elections than the Nation and Bangkok Post websites? The election commission website doesn't seem to be carrying anything, but since I don't read Thai I may be missing something. Adam 23:28, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Pitcairn
Have ever been to the Pitcairn Islands? One of my ambitions in life is to meet someone who's been there. And for the record, I'm translating a large-ish chunk of the Pitcairn-related stuff to the French Wikipedia. Keep up the good work --Wonderfool 13:42, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

David thanks for that. The page you found is a list of provinces, with the number of constituencies, polling places, enrolled voters and votes cast for each province, which is actually of some use, but not what I was hoping to find. Adam 22:32, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Deletion
Hi. Just a note to let you know the Hierarchypedia page is up for deletion. --Hierarchypedia 01:44, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

= March =

My RFA
Thanks for stating your reasons, David. I hope you don't think I'm too forward in replying to your concerns on your personal talk page.

Firstly, although an admin should not have more say in deciding image policy, I understand your feelings about this because admins do tend to be more highly respected and some people are more likely to be influenced by what they say.

Secondly I'd like to point out my actual record with respect to controversial images. I have only ever inlined the image on clitoris once, and this in support of the consensus which was decided by vote. I strongly oppose edit warring and voluntary undertook during the course of negotations with one of the few remaining diehard opponents of inlining that image that, if removed or linked, I would not restore it.

The same applies to the autofellatio image. I converted it from a link to an inline on January 6th, and have not done so again.

So while it is true that I explore the boundaries of image policy, I would argue that I do so responsibly. I have never edit warred on Wikipedia, and I would never edit war, and certainly not over a controversial image. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 12:40, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Imitation/Flattery?
Hi; User:Fatigue League seems to have copied your user page verbatim for his own. A little odd; I thought you'd at least like to know about it. Regards — Matt Crypto 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I am ham
The reason why I copied your userpage is because I just did. I shall not copy peoples userpage unless a admin tells me too (except for RickK (he sucks). --Fatigue League 13:15, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi David
Brookie here - I note your user page quotes your user no. - where does one find that out? Kind regards Brookie 16:47, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

My request for adminship
Hi David, I appreciate your vote, but I wonder if you didn't make a slight mistake. I would fix it myself, but perhaps that wouldn't be quite proper. Thanks.--Pharos 10:50, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Question
Hello. I wonder if you can provide a source for the following fact you have recently introduced (in the form of a minor edit summarized as "slight rearranging") in the Jay Warren article: "Warren took up his duties on Christmas Day, when he returned from Tahiti". I cannot confirm this even with specialized Pitcairn Island websites. All I can find is, as the article had previously said, that he was expected to return around Christmas, but no report that he actually has returned on Christmas Day. 68.127.43.33 16:14, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Cedar Revolution
Your recent edit concerning the seemingly irrelevant hidden information which you removed, and the relevant information you re-displayed, was quite correct. It was an organizational mistake which caused me to misplace the beginning of the hidden reference character, thereby hiding that important sentence regarding Syrian troop levels at the time of the first demonstrations, which was my own contribution. That other POV hidden reference was not mine, but it was time it was removed. Thank you for your keen eye.--A. S. A. 12:05, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

No clear consensus on my adminship - so I was removed
Thanks for your comments and support. One Salient Oversight 08:11, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanx for your support
I will really try to give more edit summaries. I think that the bulk of my edits truly are minor – consistency, format, etc. I will really try to specify anything that goes beyond this (whether elected admin or not). Thanks again, Rlquall 00:54, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

= April =

Fresian or Frisian
I was going through your Interwiki page and I noticed that your reference to "Fresian" appears to be a misspelling of Frisian. - dcljr 04:47, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Interwiki madness
In my recent travels around the non-English Wikipedias, I've discovered that you don't seem to have user pages (i.e., article counters) set up on the following wikis: You do have user pages on the following wikis but don't list them at User:Davidcannon/Interwiki: You list the following wikis that are deprecated according to Complete list of language Wikipedias available at Meta: And finally, you might consider renaming the following on your page: Thanks for the interwiki resources. I hope you find this information useful. - dcljr 06:22, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Dhivehi (dv:User:Davidcannon)
 * Fulfulde (Fula) (ff:User:Davidcannon)
 * Kirundi (rn:User:Davidcannon)
 * Muscogee (mus:User:Davidcannon)
 * Akan (ak:User:Davidcannon)
 * Aramaic (arc:User:Davidcannon)
 * Chamorro (ch:User:Davidcannon)
 * Chechen (ce:User:Davidcannon)
 * Cheyenne (chy:User:Davidcannon)
 * Chichewa (ny:User:Davidcannon)
 * Choctaw (cho:User:Davidcannon)
 * Cree (cr:User:Davidcannon)
 * Ewe (ee:User:Davidcannon)
 * Herero (hz:User:Davidcannon)
 * Hiri (ho:User:Davidcannon)
 * Kanuri (kr:User:Davidcannon)
 * Kikuyu (ki:User:Davidcannon)
 * Komi (kv:User:Davidcannon)
 * Kongo (kg:User:Davidcannon)
 * Kuanyama (kj:User:Davidcannon)
 * Luganda (lg:User:Davidcannon)
 * Marshallese (mh:User:Davidcannon)
 * Ndonga (ng:User:Davidcannon)
 * Sango (sg:User:Davidcannon)
 * Sinhala (si:User:Davidcannon)
 * Tigrignan (ti:User:Davidcannon)
 * Yi (ii:User:Davidcannon)
 * Zhuang (za:User:Davidcannon)
 * Moldovan (mo:User:Davidcannon)
 * Serbo-Croatian (sh:User:Davidcannon)
 * Tokipona (tokipona:User:Davidcannon)
 * Taiwanese perhaps should be Min Nan as listed on Meta (see also )
 * Alsatian perhaps should be Alemannic since the als: wiki is now more general than before (see Meta)

Thanks for your support
Hi David. Thanks for supporting me for adminship and the effort in characterising me. I'll strive to meet your expectations and that of other Wikipedians. -- 11:15, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

Hey!
Hi, there. Thanks for the frantic hand-waving across a smoky room you left on my Talk page. Yup, looks like I'm back. It's nice to be noticed. See you around, no doubt. –Hajor 05:14, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

User:24.30.67.158
David, I see you blocked User:24.30.67.158 indefinitely for anti-Semitism and vandalism. I had already blocked him for 12 hours, because I was worried it was a public library or similar, and I thought we weren't allowed to block IP addresses indefinitely. When you're facing a situation like this one with an IP address, how do you decide how long the block should be? I've only just become an admin so any advice about this would be very much appreciated, because I'd have liked to block him longer myself. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:47, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you for your helpful explanation, David. You're right that it's more art than science, and I appreciate your advice very much. I was worried that my 12-hour block of 24.30.67.158 might have cancelled yours out, as I believe the shorter block prevails, so I went back today and reblocked it indefinitely again just to make sure. If anyone else gets caught up in it, they can always e-mail one of us, as you said: mine is enabled to. Thanks again! Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 03:06, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

 * I think User:69.209.197.182 may be the same as User:24.30.67.158 and is presently vandalising user pages, namely SlimVirgin's.--Chammy Koala 10:58, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * They are not the same user. The IP's are totally different. Also, I believe that user you refer to is not vandalizing, but SlimVirgin has harassed and slurred that user on many occasions  SlimVirgin has received a great deal of criticism as an Administrator on Discussion pages.  Please review.

Thanks
Hello. Did you know that amongst the biggest languages, fr is the fastest growing one ? We live under a mild anarchy (we certainly are not as efficient and organised than germans for example), but I believe that amongst the big ones, we currently enjoy the nicest atmosphere :-) Reaching the 100 000 was great fun and pleasure for all of us. Anthere 05:56, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Language order poll
Please see my comments at Language order poll (actually the section below, Comments). - dcljr 02:55, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

To clarify my remark: I think I now understand why you didn't vote in the other section. You wanted the language names in English (e.g., Finnish, not Suomi), not just the transliterated versions of the names sorted based on English alphabetical order (e.g., Suomi before Svenska). IMO the page needs a complete overhaul and a new vote (unless it's already been voted on elsewhere) to separate the issues of how the names are displayed (entire list in current Wikipedia's language, or each individual language name displayed in its own language) and the order in which they are listed... But I know this isn't the place to discuss this... OBTW, you might be interested in an interlanguage page I'm making up for my own use. - dcljr 03:40, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Request for help
As you are an admin. I was hoping you could give me some help. It all started when I posted a noted on a wiki called Global Elite Wiki that they needed to liscence articles from wikipedia. A few days later I was accused of threatening the site of copyright infingement. The person who made this threat has since somehow come up with the notion that I am the same person as User:SqueakBox, who she has serrious beef with. He has reported some of her actions here: Requests for comment/Cumbey. She also claims that he has been abusing her, but I have seen no evidence of this. She has also been posting on her blog that I am Wicked and a member of the Bohemian Grove (which doesn't actually have membership) and I think she also redered to me as a member of the Illuminati? . I also have good reason to believe that she has been vandalising Hierarchypedia. All I wish is for her to know that I am not SqueakBox, so she will leave me alone, and stop dragging my name through the mud. One of her friends, who coincidently I have been in contact with in the past has told her I am not SqueakBox, but it doesn't seem to have registered. I would warn you that by trying to prove to her that I am not SqueakBox, you may also be named as a Sockpuppet.

Hierarchypedia vandalism here: and

Pretty sure it is her. Similar IP and she has called SqueakBox a pot lover before. --Hierarchypedia 13:36, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Javier Solana
From Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Javier Solana:

Admin is making bizarre allegations that I  am the sockpuppet of  with whom I have had disputes at Javier Solana. He makes them here at Requests for comment/Cumbey and here. This is because Cumbey put her statements  and   on her user talk page. I then moved these comments to here. I am not a Cumbey sockpuppet, nor is she mine, and I want him to withdraw the allegations. --SqueakBox 19:59, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

 * (earlier) Hi David, SB here. I just want to confirm I am not User:Cumbey. Please withdraw your allegations. As I have a longer edit history than she does these allegations should be directed at me. She had put this statement on her talk page as 68.61.150.80. I moved it to her user page because I thought she had got her pages muddled up (which she had). I may have been wrong to do so but I acted in good faith. Cumbey dislikes me because I removed her beast thesis from Javier Solana, so I could not be in any circimstances be her sockpuppet. My Solana edits have removed her POV that Solana is so powerful he threatens American intersts in the Mediterranean, etc because I am pro European integration (though astong NPOV believer too). I am English, write in English and about England as well as about Central America and Rastafari, write articles that prove my command of Spanish, have my photo on my User page, use a fixed Honduras IP address (63.245.57.201), etc. See User:SqueakBox/Personal info. I reckon User:Guettarda and User:Hajor would vouch for my genuiness, to the point of not being Cumbey, anyway, based on their knowing my edits. I have a good record here of anti-vandalism, stopping the Popes being page protected in those critical moments, whereas other than one series of edits at Apostasy recently Cumbey only ever writes about Solana related subjects. She doesn't appear to know how to work the wikipedia system, as I said to Hierarchypedia. KC9CQJ has spoken to me, and will doubtless confirm I am English from my accent. Cumbey and I have an intense relationship, but as antagonists who share an interest in Solana (mine since getting involved in the page at the end of Feb). Please respond, as I don't wish to be thought of as Cumbey, and the evidence doesn't back it up, --SqueakBox 16:11, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

I would like you to withdraw the comment about me being a Cumbey sockpuppet from Requests for comment/Cumbey,

Reply
Thanks for the speedy reply. Her books do seem over the top. Thanks for the information on Cumey's user page. I think the best solution would be to ignore both of them.

No problem. I changed it to Hierarchypedia now; I am not sure why I put the capital P in. It hasn't really grown much though. There is one person I have been in contact with from the University of Wisconsin-Madison who has written some huge articles. Although they contain a lot of POV, which I have been removing. Search engine rankings were also damaged when the hosting company "went under." Although they are climbing again now, and the Jay Van Andel page is one of the top ten search engine phrase referrals. It is just a question of trying to get more editors in. It doesn't look like it will be overtaking SourceWatch (disinfopedia) just yet :P, but most of the articles there are simply copy and pasted, and in my view pointless. Hierarchypedia also has pages on dates, which are usefull for enlarging the number of articles. --Hierarchypedia 16:12, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Fiji's Father
Do you have some reference to confirm your edit on Father of the Nation for Fiji? Are all three persons really so important? Two of them died only recently and their historical notability isn't likely established.

Can you add some info on article Talk page regarding the edit? Thanks. Pavel Vozenilek 00:21, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * There are different opinions on the whole page Father of the Nation. I myself prefere to keep it small, with only those names clearly established in given country and well documented but quite many people tend to add as many names as they could come up with. Pavel Vozenilek 00:54, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Anon block
The anon evading an earlier block may indicate the range it came from is used by a company. You don't know whether that computer is for public use. In general we don't block anon IPs permanently.

If there's a need, please open a request to the arbitration committee. Please don't block IPs permanently, also protecting the user page wasn't really necessary. Some vandals like to post on that page in case they return which makes it easy to catch them. I'm going to reblock for a month and unprotect the page. If you disagree with me, please come to my talk page and discuss it.

Alternatively, we could ask input on the admin board. Mgm|(talk) 11:32, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)

Signature
BTW, why did you sign your changes to the anon's page with ", 29 July 2024 (UTC)" behind your signature? Using 4 tildes (~) gives the time and date automatically without any strain on the servers for repeated use of the variables. Mgm|(talk) 12:24, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)

Portugal
Hi. I'm sure I saw something about you planning to eidt the List of Prime Ministers of Portugal page at some point. The list that was up there before was wrong, but I think the one I have uploaded is also wrong. All the lists I have seen are different. There were even two different lists on the same site. --Hierarchypedia 01:09, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

= May =

100 000
Thanks for the congratulations :-) We are very proud. I think we will be third language wikipedia before the end of 2005 :-) Which does not mean our articles are the quality of the english wikipedia :-) Anthere

Spam
alliancefiji.com was not supposed to be blocked. fiji.com was in the blacklist, and this was (wrongly) preventing alliancefiji.com being saved as well. I've removed fiji.com now so the page can be edited again. Angela. 13:34, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

 * alliancefiji.com should be on the blacklist, its such a crap site, but thats an aesthetic judgement and probably not relevant. --Xorkl000 22:49, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Fiji Biographies
I was trying to get hold of a copy of Who's Who in Fiji, but cannot find a copy. However I have put together a text file of biographies of people who live in Fiji - http://www.hierarchypedia.com/Fiji_Bios.txt

--Hierarchypedia 23:11, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda
I just wanted to drop you a line and tell you how much I appreciated your expansion of this article. Great work! -  BanyanTree 05:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Names
I noticed you had a question on Dehumanizer's talk. As he didn't answer, I'll give you the info:

In Portugal the names are given at registration after birth and are usually left unchange thereafter. The most common way of naming someone is:

OwnName1 OwnName2 Mother'sLastName Father'sLastName

this can be given in another order (Father's last name 1st) but is unusual today.

sometimes the grand-parents names are also used:

OwnName1&2 Mother's2LastNames Father's2LastNames

In rarer instances the godfather's last name might be given (I don't know how common this is but my own last name came from my gandfather's godfather)

Sometimes a person might choose to be called by the family name: José Manuel Durão Barroso was known in Portugal as Durão Barroso. This is common amongst buiness men, especially if not from a family lineage which would impose the need to use a a first name to distinguish from other (older) syblings.

I hope this was helpful.

Galf 07:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Apologies
You apologised to me for your ridiculous assertion that I am a Cumbey sockpuppet. will you please also apologise to Cumbey, and take a look at Requests for comment/Cumbey. Can you also tell me why you highlighted my contribs in your edit summary at Constamce Cumbey. Why are you continuing this senseless and aggressive campaign towards me, --SqueakBox 16:17, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * I asked you to read Cumbey's Rfc because she brought your accusation up yesterday there. in my response today i made clear that a major factor in me withdrawing the Rfc (a move which others are against) was your accusation. Thanks for apologising to Cumbey, (I am still waiting for her apology to both Hierarchypedia and I about her sockpuppet allegations. you actually rv my entire edit at Constance Cumbey, then wrote rv SqueakBox as one would for a vandal. I m glad to hear there were no hard feelings on your part, --SqueakBox 20:25, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

good job on Reconcilitaion and unity bill
just wanted to congratulate you on putting such a solid article together so quickly.

are you following the stories on fijitimes.com? --Xorkl000 06:47, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Military history of Puerto Rico
It's been a long time! I wrote the article mentioned above and have self-nominated it for Featured article status. Please take a look onFeatured article candidates / Military history of Puerto Rico and express your opinon. Thank you, Tony the Marine

Friendly Chat
Hi, I just thought that I would let you know that Linuxbeak has nominated me for adminship. I would like to invite you to participate at WP:RFA if you wish to do so. Thank you and take care Tony the Marine

Fijian People
Thanks for clarifying re: Fijian people. Have a look at the comments on my talk page. --Fermion 05:00, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Friendly Chat pt.2
David, how are you? Thank you for your kind words and for your support. By the way, Military history of Puerto Rico was promoted to featured article status, isn't that great? Please tell me, how's your wonderful family and what have you been doing lately? Your friend Tony the Marine

fijian names
good work on Fijian name (and you're right it is a daggy title, but we follow the convention).

i didn't think my ramblings could be turned into an article, but you pulled it off.

i have very little to add, except i think you need to get someone with more knowledge than I to review the indo-fijian bit. --Xorkl000 11:28, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Cedar Revolution
Hi David. Have you seen User:Yuber's re-write of the Cedar Revolution intro? I am appalled, but I might be biased in this, so I was hoping you could comment. Jayjg (talk) 14:24, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

= June =

Thank You
What a year! My first year in Wiki, a featured article and now administrator. Thank you for your support. I feel honored to have befriended you. You know that I consider you one of my best Wiki friends and that I'll be counting on you for advice and guidance.Tony the Marine

Request for Assistance: ADMINISTRATOR ABUSE: Administrator Mustafaa is a Wiki Terrorist
Asking for assistance regarding Administrator Mustafaa and editor Yuber:

Yuber has been cited before for violating 3RR policies, now the editor teams up with Mustafaa to continue violating 3RR policies.

Regarding the page and edits to Islamic Terrorism, Administrator Mustafaa acts as the police to this page to ensure that his biased POV is inserted. He was called in by Yuber to revert my edit, which was balanced, an improvement, and entirely without a POV (as are all my edits). They worked to team up to ensure that only their biased POV is inserted. Mustafaa then blocked me, in the process breaking many Wiki policies. Basically Mustafaa ‘s reactionary vandalism and his act of blocking me was an act of Wiki terrorisim.

Administrator Mustafaa broke many of Wiki policies:

1.	Abuse of Administratorship: Most important is that Mustafaa has an obvious POV and abuses his Administratorship to ensure that his POV is inserted into his favorite articles.

2.	Edit Abuse: Mustafaa (and Yuber) made a reactionary rv revert of the entire article instead of simply making one simple correction, the only correction that they disagreed with.

3.	Edit Abuse: Unlike what they stated, there has been no previous discussion of this issue. The only previous discussion concerned their own sensitivity to the term. The term “Islamic Terrorism” is the term used by the West and it is the term being described. I provided a source (and there would be tens of thousands of sources, because this is the proper term in the West. I accurately described the dispute that some Muslims have over a term used in the West.

4.	Violating blocking Policy: Use of blocks to gain advantage in a content dispute, and self-blocking to enforce a Wikiholiday or departure are specifically prohibited. Likewise, users should not block those with whom they are currently engaged in conflict.

5.	Violating blocking Policy: logged-in users with a substantial history of valid contributions, regardless of the reasoning for the block should not be blocked.

6.	Violating blocking Policy: the 3RR policy is not to be used to deal with vandalism as mine was of Mustafaa and Yuber vandalism.

7.	Violating blocking Policy: Mustafaa made no warnings, he just wanted to protect his POV.

I believe that I have made significant contributions to Wiki and I very greatly object to 2 people teaming up to block me out of the system so that they can insert their POV. These people are doing a real disservice to Wiki, and I can think of no worse vandalism than they have done: I think Administrators like Mustafaa are dangerous for Wiki, especially when they are so willing to violate Wiki policy to insert their POV. So, I would appreciate any information and assistance you can provide to Noitall. Thank you. --Noitall 04:51, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

 * Referring to someone called Mustafaa as a "terrorist", while amusingly hyperbolic, seems rather Islamophobic. --Irishpunktom\talk 11:50, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

Arbitration against Yuber
Hi,

I've noticed that you have had experience with Yuber's style of aggressive pov editing. I have entered a complaint against him in the arbitration commitee and I hope you give an opinion on the issue by providing some of your experiences with him. The link is here

Regards,

Guy Montag 21:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wikinews:Fiji
Hello,I wanted to let you know that Fiji is the Country of the Week on Wikipedia's sister project Wikinews. Many countries suffer severe under representation on Wikinews. Country of the Week is an attempt to slove this problem. Every week we pick a country that has no stories written about it and try to write as many stories as we can about the country. If you have any time we would greatly appreciate any help you want to give. --Cspurrier 28 June 2005 16:46 (UTC)

Tui Ca'au 3rd highest in the country?
I'm not aware of such a precedence - could you please provide a reference? --Xorkl000 30 June 2005 08:36 (UTC)

 * Can't argue with Tui Ca'au being head of Tovata, just disagree that Roko Tui Dreketi has precedence over Tui Ca'au or vice versa.--Xorkl000 1 July 2005 06:41 (UTC)

Record month
Nice touch with the "ancient records, dimly remembered by only a few geriatric Wikipedians". LOL :). Thue | talk 30 June 2005 21:51 (UTC)

= July =

Thanks

Nice of telling me ;-) Anthere

curious
I'm curious why you reverted my edit to the Blue Ribbon campaign (Fiji) page. I saw that there was supposed to be a link to the coup page (which interested me) that wasn't "coded" right. I fixed it, but you reverted. Just curious why, as I am a relatively new wikipedia user.

Thanks
Eh, thanks again :-) I try to take it easy these days. I put quite a bit of my time in wikimania, in particular to try to expand the african side of it, .... and I saw my baby with the ultrasound exam last week, and feel so relieved that this time seems to proceed well. Cheers. Anthere 19:55, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Bill Clinton a Born Again Christian?
I considered removing his name from the List of born-again Christian laypeople, but noticed your comment in the discussion section. Is there any external link available that shows that Bill says he is born again? Until now I never assumed he even claimed to be born again. --One Salient Oversight 11:13, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Reconciliation and Unity Commission (Fiji)
Hi, David. I added the above to List of truth and reconciliation commissions. Obviously it's not quite the same as (eg) South Africa, Chile, or Guatemala, but I think it's close enough. Any violent objections on your part? –Hajor 13:53, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Plautus satire
You're not the only one getting emails from Plautus satire. I'm guessing he's just working his way down the list of admins. I don't see any problem with the block being made. Angela. 04:53, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

David - I saw your message on Angela's talk page. FYI, Plautus is an utter crackpot. This should answer all your questions - user:Raul654/Plautus →Raul654 08:18, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edits?
Why did you revert my edits? -Acjelen 22:35, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

= August =

Help
I need your help. It seems that someone wants to delete my article on Carlos Lozada, one of four Puerto Ricans to have been awarded the Medal of Honor. You can help fight this injustice by voting against deletion here: | VfD. Please participate. Your friend Tony the Marine 05:29, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Blocking of 62.215.3.61
Isn't it usual to put a message on someone's talk page when you block them, explaining why? Tualha (Talk) 08:40, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Well, sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't, depending on whether they have a dynamic or static IP. In the dynamic case, there isn't a whole lot of point in blocking it; they'll just log off and log on and start with a new IP. Anyway, I've seen plenty of cases where anonymous vandals were first warned, then told they had been blocked, on their talk page. Three recent examples. I think it's probably more edifying to explain what brought on the block, instead of just leaving them to make their best guess. (Bearing in mind that newbies probably can't find the block log, or even think to look for it.) Tualha (Talk) 00:00, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Friendly Chat
It was great to hear from you, too. What have you been doing lately? I knew that when it was a question of an injustice being done on the article of Carlos Lozada, that I could count on you. Thanks for your support. Your friend always Tony the Marine 02:05, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Multilingual monthly statistics
Sorry to pester, but are you planning to update Multilingual monthly statistics soon? I can't do it myself at the moment... maybe this weekend. On that talk page you mentioned "downloading" the monthly stats; where do you do that (I can't remember if I ever knew, but I can't seem to find it at the moment)? - dcljr (talk) 19:32, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. I thought you literally downloaded a file somewhere... Thanks. - dcljr (talk) 19:28, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Lebanese Forces
Hi there,

I'm sorry to break into your busy schedule, but could you please have a look at the Lebanese Forces article. A new user named User:Usurp, who claims to run the official Lebanese Forces website, has tried to rewrite the article to promote the party's propaganda. I told him that we cannot have POV on Wikipedia. I agreed with a lot of the POV by the way, but it is not acceptable material for Wikipedia. He refused to accept that, and for the last 48 hours, he and I have been constantly reverting and counter-reverting each other. Now, I'd be the last to claim that my version is perfectly correct. But his version is POV which is not even subtle. As of this moment, the version that's "up" is mostly mine, but by the time you read this, it will probably be his again.

I think that you, being Lebanese, would have a more objective understanding that I have of the article, and I will defer to your judgement. I'm sending an identical message to User:Cedar-Guardian. Please check the recent edit history of the article. Thank you! David Cannon 01:22, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi David, I'll definetely have a look. I forgot to include this page on my watchlist. Thanks for telling me.--equitor 02:37, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Klingon Wikipedia
If you try to edit any page at the Klingon Wikipedia, you'll get a "Database locked" message, saying "This wiki has been closed for now. (Move to WikiCities?)" As it turns out, however, it was still functional on August 1, since the last edit occurred on August 2. I haven't checked the mailing list to find out what exactly is going on, but I guess next month's statistic will have to say "closed." Thanks for trying to verify my edit. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs, blog) 21:58, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Report Vandalism by --Ragib and --Mel Etitis
Dear Admin,

User --Ragib and --Mel Etitis  are contionusly vandal the article rohingya. please see it in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rohingya&action=history. Such Violaton shall be stop. please keep wiki standard updated .violations would not be accepted by any reader of wikipedia. go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism. please advice. Thanks,--Bobjack 14:33, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Re: Khmer Wikipedia
If by "counter" you mean the output of, then yes, it's possible to figure out those Khmer numerals by pasting them into a Unicode lookup tool like Ian Hickson's Unicode Character Identifier, which will tell you what each digit means in Khmer.

Personal attacks
According to Cumbey today she has just left. I certainly took your note to her asking her to remove them into account. I had already moved most before today but she did not revert herself today, maybe meaning she is okay with it (assuming she has noticed). I applied for mediation with her but initially nobody wanted to take the case up until I created the Rfc. Having withdrawn the Rfc I don't want to put it back up again. I am happy to engage in mediation if she is. What I have done may be wrong but I hope nobody will undo it, especially as the mention of me 13 times doers show an unhealthy obsession with me, and especially as she has threatemed to call the police in on me here in Honduras for imaginary crimes such as computer hacking. I believe the best option is to leave things be, as anything else will just open up old wounds. If you weant to initiate a process I believe we should still leave the page as it stands, as a revert by anyone other than Cumbey could be construed as support for a personal attack, which is clearly an abuse of user page privilege, SqueakBox 21:39, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

I can certainly think of antecedents of admins reverting user pages such as here. The shame is nobody else got there before me, SqueakBox 21:47, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

Pitcairn
- could you elucidate into who's who in the picture? You're the one most qualified to answer! I assumer Len Brown is the bottom right corner guy. --Wonderfool t(c) 00:44, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

User:212.36.213.26
Could you please NOT block IPs indefinitely. The IP you blocked seemed, according to the info I got, to be part of a network provider in the Netherlands, which would affect more than just the vandals. - Mgm|(talk) 12:00, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * My point was that blocking anon IPs indefinitely is against policy unless they are proven anonymous proxies. If there's absolutely nothing good coming from the IP in question, I've got no problem with month long blocks at a time. - Mgm|(talk) 08:15, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

August 18
I've got you blocked until 18 September. Your behaviour warrants a permanent block, and I would impose it apart from the risk of adversely affecting innocent users. David Cannon 10:21, 18 August 2005 (UTC).
 * Actually, you'd already blocked the user for 48 hours earlier that day, and the first block ending clears all other blocks of that user/ip, it's a known bug in mediawiki. I've reblocked for a fresh month (as I found them vandalising again). --fvw *  03:26, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

Stop reverting on born-again laypeople!
I'm actually trying to add supporting footnotes, and you keep removing them in your pointless reversions. If you have citations for any of the figures, please add them in. At the very least, give me a few minutes to sort out the US actors category, and we can see who is and isn't evidenced! Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 23:10, 2005 August 25 (UTC)

Lotus and List of Born Again Christian Laypeople
I'm there. --One Salient Oversight 23:41, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

DAVID, It may be important for you to know that User:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters has a history of confrontational behaviour when editing articles. I have tried reasoning with him on the Christian Laypeople discussion page but I'm fairly sure that he won't budge.

If the guy is from the US he may go to bed soon and I will revert all the changes again. Not a solution by any means, but I have asked him to do the hard work of researching each name before he deletes them - which is obviously something that can only benefit the article.

I'm fairly sure that he won't listen to our protestations or reasoning, and he will continue to edit the article in a very unhelpful way. I think one solution may be one of those complaints pages - especially considering the amount of damage he's caused to other contributors.

--One Salient Oversight 00:17, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

 * What One Salient Oversight has asked is for me to prove a negative. If someone is not on the list, they must be shown affirmatively to not be a born-again Christian according to this perverse procedure.  Obviously, it is logically impossible to prove a negative.

 * If there is such ready evidence in OSO's mind that the figures moved to the talk page really are born-again Christians, it should be very simple to just add a footnote link supporting it, then put them back with the evidence. I want the page to be better, which means in part that it is not there for purely proselytic (and therefore POV) purposes. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 00:50, 2005 August 26 (UTC)

Vasco da Gama
An article that you've edited before (Vasco da Gama) is nominated for Article Improvement Drive. If you want go there and vote. Thanks. Gameiro 02:58, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

= September =

Please do not remove disputed tag on List of born-again Christians
There has not been anything on the discussion page to indicate that the factual accuracy is no longer disputed. In point of fact, I continue to believe that a large percentage of the listed names are factually incorrect. This includes some that continue to contain prima facie negative evidence on the talk page, as well as the bulk of the names in other categories, where I have not had a chance to attempt either positive or negative validation. Removing a disputed tag without consensus is a clear policy violation; if continued, I'll probably first attempt to get the page locked pending provision of evidence, but other action might be appropriate too. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 02:52, 2005 September 6 (UTC)

Protect the page David
I thought this guy was bad news - as I said to you the other day, he seems to thrive on disputes and continually annoy other users. He might claim that this is due to some religious bias on our part, but the fact is that he annoys the heck of everyone, religious or not.

Protect the page - definitely. I would seriously consider putting him up for referral and maybe even banning.

Sorry I haven't been around to help. I spend a lot of time writing at my blog these days. Feel free to drop in. http://one-salient-oversight.blogspot.com/

--One Salient Oversight 11:52, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

 * It would be better if you got an admin who is not involved to protect it. Pollinator 13:51, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

Stop removing names, then
The article I sourced says that "Reavalomanana" (your illiterate spelling) is an evangelical minister. If you continue to trash this article, I will report you for vandalism. This is your LAST warning. There has been a fair amount of discussion about your behaviour, by the way. You've got a lot of work to do mending fences with people you've gotten off-sides with. I created this article, and several others have worked on it for a long time. I'm not going to have it ripped to shreds by a clueless newbie. If you persist, I will consult the other "regulars", and if they agree, I will protect the page. David Cannon 11:13, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Blustering threats and insults (yeah, I noticed I made a typo in the edit comment) really don't help make the page better, as you seem to think. I do not believe that your behavior has shown even a modicum of the good faith that I know I must assume per WP:FAITH.  It's just amazing that someone who acts so unprofessionnally—and just plain discourteously—has admin powers, and threatens above to abuse them. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 17:54, 2005 September 6 (UTC)

 * My concern, in apparent contrast with yours, is in improving the quality of the page at issue, so that it might eventually approach encyclopedic quality. It falls pitifully short of academic standards as is.  Certainly not the only page with such lacunae, but it's in the batch.

 * Frankly, I think locking the page by a neutral administrator is an excellent idea at this point, since you have explicitly refused to cooperate on providing evidence for names listed. There are a very large percentage of errors there now, but at least no more errors could be added while it was locked (unless you abuse your admin powers to add whatever names you felt like, throwing citation to the wind).

 * I think getting an arbitrator to step in is a good idea too. What I'd really like to obtain in such arbitration is a commitment by long-term editors to start treating the page as is it were an encyclopedia article: i.e. something that requires evidentiary support for listing names, not merely whim and fancy, nor even "trust us, we know it in our hearts (even if we don't document it on the page)."

 * And yeah, I guess I get more pissed off at being insulted and threatened than I probably should. I can accept that is a character flaw of mine.  But at the same time, I value encyclopedic quality, so cannot dismiss the implication completely, since the schoolyard bullying amounts to "let us continue to violate WP:V and WP:NPOV." Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 18:05, 2005 September 6 (UTC)

Remarkably inconsistent standards
You might be interested in checking out the overheated dispute regarding the Bob Dylan page, where user: Lulu takes an opposite position regarding what sort of evidence is required to support his comments regarding religious behavior -- insisting that "common knowledge" is enough to support an assertion, and that pointing to clearly sourced, expressly contrary comments in published works is "pedantic." He's doing this sort of thing simply to disrupt good faith efforts and to indulge his own anti-religious sentiments. Monicasdude 18:37, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

To David Cannon: From a quick glance at your history, you seem to be one of WP's top contributors and an irreplaceable asset to our project. I feel it is important to warn you against making common cause with Monicasdude, who, while possessed of solid knowledge in a number of subjects, is unfortunately a habitually disruptive and heavy-handed editor who kicks up time-wasting disputes almost everywhere he alights (see Requests_for_comment/Monicasdude). If you have a problem with Lulu of the Lotus Eaters I urge you to handle it without casting yourself as a Monicasdude ally. LotLE asserts he is being stalked, apparently with orchestration by Mdude. Please don't be drawn into this kind of thing. JDG 17:24, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I found your response to user:JDG extremely irresponsible. The behavior of Wikithugs and Wikitrolls is unavoidable, but it's really inappropriate to encourage them like your comments did. At about the same time he was posting "friendly" comments on your talk page, he was throwing abuse in your direction on mine.
 * I've done my best to take Wikipedia's guidelines seriously, especially NPOV and verifiability. An editor who does so inevitably comes into conflict with people who try to push their own POV, and some of those folks are pretty nasty and do their best to drive out their antagonists. I can understand why good faith users don't want to get involved in those disputes when they can be avoided. I can't understand why you would encourage one of them. Monicasdude 03:17, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
A thanks for the support and the very nice comment on my admin nomination. CG 21:15, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

Suva City Council
Sorry mate, this topic (Suva City Council) is of absolutely no interest to me. I did not even know that Chandu was no longer the mayor. This astounding ignorance of the affairs of my own city council is indicative of how little i care for about this.

I therefore am unable to be of assistance in this matter--Xorkl000 07:37, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Awarded Barnstar of National Merit
Someone had to do it eventually, so here it is for your work on Fiji. --Xorkl000 11:21, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Image:Danychamoun.jpg
= October =

Subject: wikipedia's Suleiman Frangieh entry
Former President Suleiman Frangieh brother Hamid Bey Frangieh died on 5th September in 1981. My family belong to his parties since the 50's. Britannica Yearbook is not correct. I am 50 year old from Zgharta/Ehden and I better know.

Please Check Zgharta.com entry for Mr. Hamid Bey Frangieh (http://zgharta.com/history/past_zghartawiens/hamid_frangieh/hamid_frangieh.html).

You can also contact Zgharta.com and confirm.

Respectfully, Elie Hosry,

Subject: Multilingual statistics
I translated that statistics pages to Japanese, and simultaneous checked by spreadsheet. However, it seems to be not exists Danish at "statistics (2002) and (2003)", but Danish exists "statistics - new articles (2002) and (2003)", please confirm.

Up to reference, Japanese translated pages are: (2004), (2003), (2002), (2001) and (2004), (2003), (2002), (2001), and Updating "this", "this - new articles".

I respect your great work, and sorry my poor English.--Diagraph01 20:15, 15 October 2005 (UTC) (w:ja:利用者:Diagraph01)

 * I calculated backward and fix there pages. This case is closed now. Thank you. --Diagraph01 13:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

194.146.154.1
Heya. Indefinite blocks of IP addresses that aren't open proxies are generally a bad idea; IP assignments change and someone else gets stuck with it or (best case) one day years from now someone has to clean them all up. I've reblocked for three months, even if he does keep vandalising the rest of his life from that very IP, I think we can handle reblocking once every few months. --fvw *  00:10, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Request
Hi David, I would like you to express your opinion, which I respect so much in the talk page of Miguel Piñero. A user insists in deleting information which I believe is essencial to the article and seems to have a disrepectful atitute. Tony the Marine 22:38, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Current tag on Ribbon campaigns (Fiji)
Hi David. I removed the tags from these articles because they are only meant to be a warning that the information is changing so fast that edit conflicts are likely. For example, an election during the actual voting period or an approaching hurricane. The articles are not edited very often. Perhaps the current event category Category:Current_events would be appropriate. Also, please do not use rollback feature for non-vandalism. Thanks! Carbonite | Talk 16:05, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

David Lange
Thanks for clearing that up. It's always difficult to know what to do when someone adds a fact repeatedly to an article without being willing to discuss it. Clearly they were a troll.-gadfium 18:09, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you David for expressing yourself on the Miguel Piñero issue. The dispute ended in friendly terms between Dali and myself. Hey, how's your lovely family doing? We're going to have to take sometime out in the future for a friendly chat. Take care Tony the Marine 07:10, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Wikiquote formatting
Hello, David. Thanks for adding quotes by various notable Fijians to Wikiquote, it is much appreciated. However, I noticed that you tend not to follow the recommended formatting (as can be seen in q:Wikiquote:Templates/People) in several places:
 * Name should be in bold
 * Quotes should be divided into sourced/attributed. If all the quotes are sourced, just open a level-2 header "Sourced", and various sources can be level-3 headers.
 * Quotes should generally not include quote marks.
 * If you want to put in the "wikipedia box", please open a level-2 section "External links" and put it there. There are many reasons for that, among others is that it tends to screw up formatting otherwise.

Thanks again for all your contribution, and have fun! MosheZadka 07:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
David, what exactly is POV there? You added a POV tag without mentioning anything in the talk page? Would you care to specify? Thanks. --Ragib 14:36, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

 * (RE- your message) Hi David, thanks for your message. I'd be delighted if you point out the claims. There IS some degree of dispute about the declaration of independence of Bangladesh, i.e. whether it is by Sheikh Mujibur Rahman or Ziaur Rahman. About the involvement of CIA in his assassination, there is a book and a collection of document by Lawrence Lifshultz (spelling may be wrong). Anyway let me know. I didn't take anything personally, rather this enabled me to take a look at your quite rich user page, and get into a pleasant exchange with you. I'm delighted that you have taken an interest into the article, and hopefully the article will get out of its current stagnant stage. Thanks. --Ragib 01:04, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Hmm, found the 3 points in the talk page, answering there. Thanks. --Ragib 01:06, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

= November =

Fiji - religion
Hi, I first edited percentage data, which seemed to be suspicious, but I cant belive You wrote mistake. Please look at it and let me know.--Lovecz 16:00, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I am sorry, my English is not so perfect. I thought the numbers are for whole Fiji. Its clear now with 99%Christians in native Fijians population, but what means next two numbers? Is it that 76,7% Indo-fijians are Hindu religion? Or is that number for ethnic Fijians, but it means that they changed their religion from 1996.
 * I like Fiji a lot and I am working on my-language version of Fiji article. This is one from hardest nut in my translation. --Lovecz 08:55, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Now is it clear. Thanks a lot. My born language is cleverly hiden in my name.--Lovecz 12:52, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Your IP evil twin...
David, the vandal who shares your IP address ( 210.55.230.19 (talk • contribs • [ page moves] • block user • [ block log]) ) is becoming a real pest. When you're done with your editing session, please re-block. Thanks! Owen× ☎  01:06, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm sorry, David, but I've had to block that IP; the vandalism was getting out of hand. I've noticed that you haven't been editing for the past hour or so. When you wish to continue, please unblock yourself; this is not against the policy, as the block was not directed against you. Owen× ☎  01:27, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Afar stats

 * Um... if there are 6 articles, where are they?? I'd really like to see them... All I can see from http://aa.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Allpages is 3 listings: the Main page, and a couple empty pages... So that's what I mean by the counter is broken... Codex Sinaiticus 23:07, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

 * The reason most wikis have a discrepancy, is because there are usually many MORE articles on "allpages" than the "numberofpages", because there are also listed all the redirects and pages without links.
 * But there's something really really strange going on with this wiki, because I assure you, there are NO articles to be seen anywhere on it, zilch... not even redirects or pages without links...  Just two completely blank pages...  The only articles there ever were, were all deleted long ago, as they were vandals' jokes...   So the correct number should be 0 and not 6, and not just for November, but for every month... If you want me to, I will try to make contact with Angela and let her know about the discrepancy myself...   Codex Sinaiticus 00:20, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

OK, I did leave her a note telling her about the broken counter, but what I was really hoping to accomplish is actually more your department... namely, could the statistics and rankings all be recalculated for each month, using the correct figure "0 articles" for Afar, instead of the incorrect figure "6"??? Sorry if that makes a lot of work for you, but if you prefer, I could take a crack at it myself when I get a chance... Codex Sinaiticus 00:44, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Well, Angela's only suggestion was for me to report it to bugzilla... That's a lot more trouble than it's worth, and I don't really care about fixing the bug that much anyway, so much as I care about fixing the stats...  So, if you don't take my word for it there are no pages anywhere to be found, please try clicking aa:Special:Longpages, aa:Special:Shortpages, aa:Special:Ancientpages, or whatever...  Going by the deletion log, 22 pages were cut from the mainspace in April, and 2 in August, which wouldn't account for the numbers on the statistics pages whatsoever...  The two deleted in August were also created in August, so taking that into consideration, I think you can safely "zero out" all the numbers for Afar for every month from July through the present... Codex Sinaiticus 01:49, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

User categorisation
You were listed on the Wikipedians/Fiji page as living in or being associated with Fiji. As part of the User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in Fiji for instructions. -- Gurch 15:09, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

IP blocking
This may be of interest to you. --Scïmïłar parley 21:22, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

VINAKA DAVID Thanks for all your Fiji-related work

Feliz Cumpleaño

'''David, You are one of my best friends here and I wish you the best. May God bless you and your family always! Your friend Tony the Marine 05:27, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

hi - this new catagory of yours has just gone to WP:SFD. if youd proposed it at WP:WSS/P before making it (like youre supposed to) youd have been told that it should be called. it could have saved us some work if youd done that. BL  kiss the lizard  11:51, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
 * wow! well done with the renaming and things (and thanks!) that was quick! BL   kiss the lizard  13:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
 * i had a look at your user page and it looks like youre one of the "big workers" on wp so sorry to have got annoyed in the first place :) stubs should be proposed first tho to stop this sort of thing happening. BL   kiss the lizard  13:31, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

= December =

review at alexa/amazon
Hi, I just read your review of Wikipedia at Alexa. I don't know if you can still change it, but the claim "...and is growing at a rate of more than 100,000 articles a day, even on a bad day." seems a bit too optimistic to me? Cheers, —R. Koot 17:18, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Fiji stubs
I noticed that alot of your subpages linked to the old category, so I thought I'd let you know that the category for Fiji-stub has been renamed to Category:Fiji stubs. --Mairi 02:37, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Template:Vanua Levu
Hi David. I was wondering about the inclusion of IPA pronunciation in this template. It seems a bit unnecessary in what is a navigational template, making it a lot longer than necessary, and also quite hard to follow. What are your thoughts? --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 09:57, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

 * No problem - if it's helping with your editing, I'm fine to leave it in for now, though I do still think it should come out eventually. --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 10:49, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Would it be helpful if I add the pronunciation to the articles, as I've done with Laucala? --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 11:27, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

OK, pretty sure I've got the IPA in for all existing articles where the pronunciation was listed in the templates. --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 14:58, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Request for references for Seru Epenisa Cakobau
I see that you wrote a good bit of the interesting article about Seru Epenisa Cakobau. Could you provide sources, especially for the material about cannibalism?--FloNight 14:09, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the quick response. You work on Fiji articles is impressive.--FloNight 20:30, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Kamisese Mara and Britannica
It would be great if you could document this instance of plagiarism through time stamps or so, and put a wikilink to that documentation into the Village pump. Thanks!! Awolf002 02:35, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

This is a serious claim. Could you substantiate it by providing a few quotes of both the Wikipedia and the Britannica articles, so that we can compare and see whether it is similar? --Teofilo talk  11:58, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree. I removed the comment from the announcements page because it did not have a cite to support it. Serious claims need serious evidence, and cites to back them up. Can you provide any evidence of copying, and that if any copying was performed, that it was from Wikipedia, rather than the other way round? -- The Anome 14:06, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

You said: "...I take back my charge of plagiarism. I should not have been so hasty to put such a charge in such a noticeable location, and I promise to be more careful in future." Thanks for the update! It always pays to be real sure what happened, so if it had actually been more serious, we would have it all solidly backed up. Awolf002 16:26, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi David, please help
I would like to request your help with serious NPOV and verifiability problems on the Arabic numerals page. I have mentioned it, yet again, here Wikiquette_alerts. Please help me recruit as many neutral and well-intending editors to the page to counter the strong and manifest bias. Regards, and thanks. csssclll (14:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC))

Felix Navidad

''' O.K. David, so you don't believe in Santa, but I still want to wish you and your loved ones all the happiness in the world and the best new year ever. Your friend, Tony the Marine 04:59, 18 December 2005 (UTC)'''

Censoring on Wikipedia:Announcements
Hi David, why are you censoring my contribution to Announcements without any justification? Riki 12:15, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Because the announcements page is not an appropriate place for it. The ramblings of a half-witted blogger who has nothing better to do with his time do not constitute suitable material for the announcements page, or for any other page that I'm aware of.  That's all I want to say about the topic for now. David Cannon 12:19, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your explanation. I thought it was relevant, because it is covered on major web sites, such as www.betanews.com. Riki 13:50, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Help
Hi, I uploaded an image of Ari Meyers within the the accordance established by Wikipedia (source and licence) and someone put it up for deletion because "it is unencyclopedic". The image is of good taste and just because it is a wallpaper image I don't think it should be deleted. Please view and if you can, express your opinion. Images and media for deletion/2005 December 24 Thank you, Tony the Marine 03:52, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Christmas Gift
Image:Gtallo.gif

Your friend Tony the Marine 07:22, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Rotuman
That's what I'm here for. :-) After looking at the Ethnologue entry, I think it bears further investigation, since Ethnologue makes it appear that Rotuman is more closely related to Fijian than to other Polynesian languages...which is the exact opposite of everything else I've read.  Tom e rtalk  09:40, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Sounds like a subject for yet another article.  ;-)  I can see that information featuring rather prominently in History of the Lau Islands or somesuch.  I just read through your userpage and thought I'd mention that about a year after you started working on Fiji, I started working on the Marquesas Islands...  School and a [now moribund] relationship have severely reduced my free time, but I'm hoping to get back to that part of WP sometime soon.  Eventually, I'd like to have an article at least as exhaustive as Isla Sala y Gómez for every island or chunk of rock in the Pacific...  Tom e rtalk  09:54, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Happy New Year
(Feliz Año Nuevo)

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Talk:Belk

Low Brow?
I'm removing the 'low-brow' comment as it seems to be a derogatory term, and doesn't reflect all of their stores. If anyone has any objections post them here and we can change it back.

I really don't see why would there be any objections; it's totally POV, and therefore I have removed it (again?). Their mall stores are typical mainline department stores that are no better or worse in quality than the Dillard's or Macy's with which they share mall space. The flagship store in Charlotte is massive and sells, among other things, fur coats and fine wine...hardly the type of stuff you'd see in Walmart or Family Dollar. Yes, there are dinky little Belk stores in dinky little towns all across the Carolinas and beyond, but even they wouldn't count as lowbrow; they are by far the best clothing stores in those places.

Controversy Section Merits
The whole controversy about the sticker seems like an isolated incident in one particular store. I do not think this needs to to be referenced on this page at all unless it had gotten some national press coverage, which im guessing it probably did not. I had a college roommate get banned for life from a Belk once in Raleigh over something stupid and trivial, but its not Wikipedia-worthy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.163.112.231 (talk • contribs) 13:02, December 17, 2006

I saw that there was a need for a temp page for Belk, so I made a stub. The info is basic and fairly well known (at least among those who know about the department store); I did not copy the page that is the source of the previous article's deletion.--Bjeversole 06:18, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Seems to be a discrepancy with the actual number of stores; made a small adjustment.--Bjeversole 06:21, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Not that I expect it not to happen, but did I miss an announcement that confirms the sale of Parisian to Belk has officially closed? Little Rock will be one of the last Parisian locations to open, and there has been grumbling on local web forums ever since the buyout notice. Still, I haven't seen any news of approval from proper regulatory agencies or other necessary clearance of hurdles that would make the changeover a certainty. — ArkansasTraveler 02:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I find this department store family tree stuff fascinating. For consistency, I made links of a number of these that obviously don't exist yet in order to get the ones that do. Maybe someone "in the know" will do the articles. Luxomni 13:29, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Did it happen?
I am eager to find out if the controversial "Silent Kids" incident occurred as shown on the page. I am suspicious for two reasons:
 * The group's name is a red link, meaning there is no page for it. That does not necessarily show that no such organization exists, but I hadn't heard of it and have no way to find out more details from Wikipedia.
 * There is no mention of a year for the incident or the location of the Edgewater Mall.

For those reasons, the section has been marked. I call on the editor (Bjeversole?) to flesh out more details and provide a source. - Desmond Hobson 23:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Edgewater Mall is located in Biloxi Mississippi. The suspects in questions were NOT members of the "Silent Kids" organization. While this event did take place, the suspects were just local citizens trying to speak their mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhantomBPR (talk • contribs) 20:19, December 6, 2006

Has anyone considered that perhaps there was more to this whole scandal than just the placing of stickers? Was there any vandalism done in the process? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.209.150.157 (talk • contribs) 20:46, December 6, 2006

Belk's "flagship" stores
In the introduction of this article, I have added the four flagship stores that Belk have recognized (Charlotte, Raleigh (NC), Birmingham, and Atlanta) since that should be included in the introductory paragraph. On their website press release, it mentions that they have designated the Birmingham and Atlanta stores their "flagship" stores along with the Charlotte and Raleigh store. If anyone feel against it then please let me know. Thanks! Bucs2004 05:00, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Other Belk Trivia
Belk-Lindsey was also present in central Florida, with stores in Orlando, Tampa, and St. Petersburg. There was also a William Henry store in St. Petersburg which was part of the same chain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.102.70.159 (talk) 01:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

There were approximately 20 Belk-Lindsey stores through central Florida, as far north as Gainesville and as far south as Fort Myers, and from the Atlantic Coast to the Gulf. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.233.133.252 (talk • contribs) 23:40, February 26, 2009

Partnerships?
What happened to the partnership names? I do not see any discussion on removing them...I understand that it makes the article cleaner, but perhaps we could get an accurate listing from the company since this is a record of Belk, Inc. history, and all of these individual companies as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreamshop78 (talk • contribs) 05:30, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Using the old logo
I don't know precisely how to go about doing this, but there are discussions about whether it is allowed here and here. Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 18:49, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

 * You could also just upload a photo of a Belk store from Flickr that is under CC license and that shows the old logo. Just do an Advanced Search on Flickr for only Creative Commons-licenced photos. Here's one, for instance, and the store location is listed on the right: . Softlavender (talk) 06:18, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

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Potential bankruptcy
The information about a second bankruptcy is highly speculative, and there are no other sources supporting this claim. A quarterly dip in sales is also not noteworthy enough. I think Belk is in a much better financial position than the article is trying to portray, which feels false. 174.215.222.20 (talk) 22:42, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

 * Oops, IP, I see you kept the Bloomberg source. That is reliable, so I'm glad you kept that. The other source however, does need to be looked at, which I accidentally misclicked to revert, so apologies for that. I have reverted my last edit.  Yoshi24517 ( Chat ) ( Online ) 22:56, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I give up. I have no idea what the IP is trying to say. I'm moving on to something else, this feels like a losing battle for me.  Yoshi24517 ( Chat ) ( Online ) 23:04, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

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Ceará Sporting Club

Ceará Sporting Club, or simply Ceará, is a Brazilian professional football club from the city of Fortaleza, capital city of the Brazilian state of Ceará.

Founded on June 2, 1914, Ceará is one of the most traditionally successful clubs in the Northeast region of Brazil alongside Bahia, Santa Cruz, Sport, Náutico, Vitória and their city rivals Fortaleza.

Ceará is the most popular team in the state, proven in several research and communication vehicles. It also has an advantage in direct confrontations, with 203 wins, 211 draws and just 184 victories over its rival. It is the pioneering and most traditional team in its state and one of the largest in its region.

History
On June 2, 1914, the club was founded as Rio Branco Football Club by Luiz Esteves Junior and Pedro Freire. Later, seventeen members joined the club. As Rio Branco Football Club, the team colors were white and lilac. In 1915, on their first birthday, the club changed its name to Ceará Sporting Club, and later won their first title in 1922.

In 1941, Ceará won the Campeonato Cearense, the same year of the inauguration of Estadio Presidente Vargas. From 1961 to 1963, the club was three times consecutive state champion. In 1969, Ceará won the Northeast Cup. In 1964, Ceara finished third in Serie A, their best campaign in the top flight to date.

In 1970 the club ended a seven-year state championship title drought. In 1971, Ceará was the last placed team in Campeonato Brasileiro Série A first edition. From 1975 to 1978, the club was state champion four times in a row.

In 1985, Ceará finished seventh in the league, their second best ever position In 1994, the club finished as Brazilian Cup runners-up, beaten by Grêmio in the final. In 1995, Ceará participated in the Copa CONMEBOL, the club's first international championship, becoming the only club of Ceará State to play an international tournament. In 1996, the team administrator was Forró bands businessman Emanuel Gurgel. The team changed its home shirt color to all black. Because of this, the team was nicknamed "Urubu do Nordeste" (Northeast Vulture). From 1996 to 1999, the club was state champion four times in a row.

In 2005, Ceará reached the Copa do Brasil semifinals, where the club was defeated by Fluminense.

In 2010, after a 17-year absence, Ceará was promoted back to the Brazilian League, after finishing third in the 2009 Campeonato Brasileiro Série B. In their first campaign back, Ceara had a great start, unbeaten for eight matches and kicking off their campaign with a win against champions Fluminense. However, their form began to drop with a run of only one victory in twelve matches, including a heavy 5–0 loss to Avaí. Ceara eventually finished in 12th position, achieving a place in the Copa Sudamericana.

In the 2011 Copa Sudamericana, they were eliminated by Sao Paulo in the first round, despite having won the first leg. Later that year, Ceará reached the Copa do Brasil semi-finals. Vozao ended Ronaldinho's Flamengo's unbeaten streak in the quarter-finals with a victory in the Engenhao, then drew the home game, eliminating the Rio de Janeiro team in a notorious upset. Ceará, however, was defeated by Coritiba in the semi-finals. Also that year, they won their first Campeonato Cearense in five years, paving the way for four consecutive state titles from 2011 to 2014. However, the club was relegated from the Serie A. After having begun the season poorly, a run of four wins in seven matches seemed to steer the club to safety in the ninth position after a win against Athletico Paranaense, but then a spell with only one win in thirteen matches, including four successive defeats brought them into the relegation zone, and their relegation was confirmed with a loss to Bahia.

In February 2014, the Cidade Vozao – Luis Campos Training center was inaugurated. This is where the club houses its youth teams and where the first-team trains.

In 2015, Ceara won their first Copa do Nordeste, eliminating Vitoria on away goals before defeating Bahia over two legs. However, the team struggled in Série B, only finishing two points above the relegation zone. In 2018, they achieved promotion and finished 15th in the league that season. In 2020, the club won their second Copa do Nordeste, finished eleventh in Serie A, and gained qualification to the Copa Sudamericana, their first in a decade.

In 2021, they finished eleventh again, and qualified for the 2022 Copa Sudamericana, where they had a great campaign, winning all matches in the group stage which included powerhouse Independiente de Avellaneda, then beating The Strongest 5–1 on aggregate before losing to finalists São Paulo on penalties in the quarter-finals. However, the Copa Sudamericana campaign put stress on the squad and they were not able to keep up with the pace of the league, causing relegation after a seventeenth-placed finish.

National

 * Copa do Brasil
 * runner-up: 1994

Regional

 * Copa do Nordeste
 * Winners (3): 2015, 2020, 2023

 * Torneio Norte-Nordeste
 * Winners (1): 1969

State

 * Campeonato Cearense
 * Winners (46): 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1919, 1922, 1925, 1931, 1932, 1939, 1941, 1942, 1948, 1951, 1957, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1971, 1972, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1980, 1981, 1984, 1986, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017, 2018, 2024

 * Copa dos Campeões Cearenses
 * Winners (1): 2014

Friendly tournaments

 * Taça Asa Branca
 * Winners (1): 2016

Stadium

Ceará's home venue is Estádio Carlos de Alencar Pinto, capacity 3,000, but the team also plays at Estadio Castelão for big games and finals, which has a capacity of 60,326, and at Presidente Vargas Stadium, which has a 22,228 capacity.

Rivals
Ceará's greatest rival is Fortaleza, and the match between the two clubs is known as Clássico Rei. It has been played 603 times, with Ceará winning 213 times, Fortaleza winning 187 times and 203 draws. Ceará's second biggest rival is Ferroviário, the third biggest club of Fortaleza city, and the match is known as Clássico da Paz. This derby has been played 302 times, with 140 wins for Ceará, 71 wins for Ferroviário and 91 draws.

Mascot
The team mascot, an old man known as "Vovô" ("Grandpa") dressing Ceará uniform was designed by Cearense cartoonist Mino for the "Ceará: Paixão Total" Project ("Ceará: Full Passion" Project).

The team mascot appeared in late 1919, when Meton de Alencar Pinto, former president of Ceará SC, coached young players of America Football Club, a small club from the city, in the Porangabussu training center. Meton, who used to call the kids as "my grandsons", asked them to "go easy on grandpa". Afterwards, the nickname started to apply to the team of Ceará as well, helped by the seniority of the club; Ceará Sporting Club was the first football team founded in the state.

Supporters
Ceara is the best supported club in the state, and third in the Northeast, behind Bahia and Sport, according to a recent study by GloboEsporte.com. Vozao has approximately 1.6 million supporters.

Logo evolution

The first logo was the club's first as Ceará Sporting Club, and was used from 1915 to 1954.

The second logo was used from 1955 to 1969 and was inspired by the Santos logo.

The third logo was used from 1970 to 2003, which removed the ball found in the top left corner of the previous logo, and added a white outline.

The fourth logo is the current team logo, and was adopted in 2003. The logo is a restyled version of the previous logo created by Adman Orlando Mota. This logo introduced the white stars and the foundation date.

Managers

 * 🇧🇷 Arnaldo Lira (1999)
 * 🇧🇷 Lula Pereira (1999)
 * 🇺🇾 Sérgio Ramirez d'Ávila (1999)
 * 🇧🇷 Celso Teixeira (1999–00)
 * 🇧🇷 Cláudio Duarte (2000)
 * 🇧🇷 José Carlos Serrão (2000)
 * 🇧🇷 Arnaldo Lira (2000–01)
 * 🇧🇷 Júlio Espinosa (2001)
 * 🇧🇷 Flávio Araújo (2001)
 * 🇧🇷 Artur Neto (2002)
 * 🇧🇷 Luis Carlos Cruz (2002–03)
 * 🇧🇷 Dimas Filgueiras (2003)
 * 🇧🇷 Celso Teixeira (2003)
 * 🇧🇷 Ricardo Barreto (2004)
 * 🇧🇷 Roberto Fernandes (2004)
 * 🇧🇷 Lula Pereira (2004)
 * 🇧🇷 Arnaldo Lira (2005)
 * 🇧🇷 Lula Pereira (2004)
 * 🇧🇷 Jair Pereira (2005)
 * 🇧🇷 Valdir Espinosa (2005)
 * 🇧🇷 Zé Teodoro (2006), (2009)
 * 🇧🇷 Paulo César Gusmão (2009–10)
 * 🇧🇷 René Simões (2010)
 * 🇧🇷 Estevam Soares (2010)
 * 🇧🇷 Mário Sérgio (2010)
 * 🇧🇷 Vágner Mancini (2011)
 * 🇧🇷 Estevam Soares (2011)
 * 🇧🇷 Paulo César Gusmão (2012)
 * 🇧🇷 Ricardinho (2013)
 * 🇧🇷 Sérgio Guedes (2013)
 * 🇧🇷 Sérgio Soares (2013–14)
 * 🇧🇷 Paulo César Gusmão (2014)
 * 🇧🇷 Dado Cavalcanti (2015)
 * 🇧🇷 Silas Pereira (2015)
 * 🇧🇷 Geninho (2015)
 * 🇧🇷 Marcelo Cabo (2015)
 * 🇧🇷 Lisca (2015–16)
 * 🇧🇷 Sérgio Soares (2016)
 * 🇧🇷 Gilmar Dal Pozzo (2017)
 * 🇧🇷 Givanildo Oliveira (2017)
 * 🇧🇷 Marcelo Chamusca (2017–18)
 * 🇧🇷 Jorginho (2018)
 * 🇧🇷 Lisca (2018–19)
 * 🇧🇷 Enderson Moreira (2019)
 * 🇧🇷 Adílson Batista (2019)
 * 🇧🇷 Argel Fuchs (2019–20)
 * 🇧🇷 Enderson Moreira (2020)
 * 🇧🇷 Guto Ferreira (2020–21)
 * 🇧🇷 Tiago Nunes (2021–22)
 * 🇧🇷 Dorival Júnior (2022)
 * 🇦🇷 Lucho González (2022)
 * 🇵🇾 Gustavo Morínigo (2023)
 * 🇧🇷 Eduardo Barroca (2023)
 * 🇧🇷 Guto Ferreira (2023)
 * 🇧🇷 Vagner Mancini (2023–present)

Ultras groups

 * Cearamor
 * Movimento Organizado Força Independente (Mofi)

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Sheer Dallas

Sheer Dallas is a 2005 television reality show about the rich and eccentric lives of people in Dallas, Texas. It is aired by the cable network The Learning Channel. Some characters included Steve Kemble, Brooke Webster (Miss Dallas County 2005) and Charlie Price (who has gone on to open "Hair by Charlie" a successful Dallas salon). The show was narrated by Larry Hagman, who played J.R. Ewing on Dallas.

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Talk:Religion in the Inca Empire

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Introduction
The intro to this article doesn't make any Fricking sense.

haha
Is there a reason that this page does not use the usual English name Inca? (—Charles P. (Mirv) forgot to sign this.)

 * It does now. If anyone decides to move it back to Tawantinsuyu, Religion, an explanation would be appreciated. —Charles P. (Mirv) 16:03, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Needs work
Just underlining that this article needs work, if anyone has the time (unfortunately, I don't at the moment). It has a lot in common with Inca mythology, and there is good introductory material on religion in Inca Empire that could be integrated into the intro to this article. There is also an article called Inti. Perhaps some merging work is in order? Dunno. Mona-Lynn 15:54, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The Inca-related articles in general are in need of attention. When I have some time in a few weeks I hope to improve them, possibly using some material from their Spanish counterparts, which, in general, seem more thorough. bcasterline t 16:03, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Need help adding a cite
I've added a cites to a book I'm reading on the subject (by Von Hagen), but I've never done cites on Wikipedia before, so someone probably needs to clean them up. I'm not sure the economic part is totally relevant to this subject, but as long as someone was talking about all the Socialist trademarks of the society in this topic, I wanted to counter-balance it with one very NON-Socialist trademark: totally free marketplaces. Another interesting factoid (also from Von Hagen) to stick somewhere might be that they had no currency, but that's DEFINITELY not relevant to this topic. :-)

 * I'm wikifying this article and the Von Hagen reference is impossible to track down as it only cites the author's name and a page number - Victor_Wolfgang_von_Hagen has written many many books and I have no idea where to start. This page looks pretty much abandoned - but if anyone is watching, please help ... otherwise I don't see an alternative but to remove the material.  Depthdiver (talk) 22:45, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

 * Afraid no-one has replied so I am going to remove the two Von Hagen references as they lack adequate citation details and can't be sourced to anything. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of the subject will be able to add it back in properly at a later date. Depthdiver (talk) 01:36, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Mummification, wiki formatting sins and anthropomorphism
From the article:
 * "In order for a child to be designated, he had to be perfect, and be free of any blemishes. Usually the finest young children were taken from each village to Cuzco to meet the emperor, and were then taken to the highest mountains and then sacrificed, most often with a blow to the head. The children were elaborately adorned with fine clothing, and jewelry. This process left mummies..."

Nothing in this passage in any way describes the process by which mummification occurs. The "process" left corpses, which due to environment and burial procedures became mummified.

The rest of the section was typed by someone who doesn't understand how to format a paragraph, and it just looks darned sloppy. The deprecated XHTML " ", is not proper form here for breaking a line. Paragraphs are to be separated by a blank line, something done with a paragraph tag ("  ") if you insist upon using HTML, not a linebreak. You should be using wiki formatting, not X/HTML. See Guide_to_layout and Help:Editing for help.

A "day" is a period of time. It is not a sentient being, and it cannot "witness" anything. To state otherwise is "waxing poetic", and is not the proper tone for an encyclopedia article. 12.22.250.4 18:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Expanded discourse on Inca Religion.
Here is a overview done by Yale's Peabody museum which summerizes Inca religion quite well: "Perhaps because they lived in a harsh and unpredictable environment, the Inca practiced religious rituals designed to win the favor of the gods, who were often associated with natural forces such as the sun, water, or weather. The Inca people gave precious things to the gods to earn their favor.The Inca religion grew out of the beliefs of Andean people regarding natural forces. Andean people have long worshipped the natural world around them, including mountains, rivers, lakes, the ocean, and constellations. They identify natural features such as especially high mountains, springs and large stones as sacred places, called huacas. The Incas worshipped the sun as the ultimate giver of life and celebrate festivals to assure that the sun will continue to appear each day. They used felines and snakes as symbols in their religious art.

Pachacuti, who ruled from A.D. 1438 to 1471, greatly expanded the Inca Empire and rebuilt Cuzco. He also reorganized the Inca religion. He created a special relationship between himself and the sun, proclaiming that the Inca emperor was the sun’s son. Pachacuti built the elaborate temple to the Sun in Cuzco that awed the Spanish. Wiracocha was the god of creation who was believed to have created all things, including the sun, moon and stars, as well as the earth and human beings.The Inca people believed that Illapa, the thunder or weather god, controlled rain. He was asked to provide enough rainfall at critical points during the agricultural cycle. Mama-Quilla, the moon god, was the wife of the sun. The festival of the moon was held near the spring equinox, at the beginning of the planting season. Pachamama, the god of the earth, and Mama-Cocha, the god of the sea, were also female gods. Many other local deities existed to protect herds of llamas, wild animals and crops. A large group of male and female priests worshipped the many gods and maintained their shrines. The highest priest, usually the brother or uncle of the emperor, worshipped the sun. A group of women called aqllakuna made textiles and chicha for the temples. The priests and attendants of Inca gods were supported by the agricultural goods produced by the third of the land under Inca control. Inca beliefs required people to observe many rituals tied to the agricultural calendar. These rituals involved the sacrifice of precious objects, including textiles, coca, chicha, and llamas. Children were sacrificed only on rare occasions after natural disasters, war or during the crowning of a new emperor.

Major festivals took place in December at the beginning of the rainy season, and included dancing, drinking and sacrifice. Another important festival occurred in May to celebrate the corn harvest. Many llamas were sacrificed, and the meat was either eaten or burned. In June, a festival to the sun god Inti took place near Cuzco. Only royal Inca men could participate. The festival included llama sacrifices, dancing, and drinking chicha."

--Kba206 (talk) 21:35, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Contemporary "Incanism"
There should be some discussion on contemporary followers of Inca religious traditions and their beliefs and practices. For example, the article on Bolivia claims that 15% of Bolivian population practice "Incanism/Andean Spirituality." Elsewhere in that article, it is claimed that "many Native communities interweave pre-Columbian and Christian symbols in their worship." No doubt similar kinds of religion/spirituality exist in other South American countries. Reuqr (talk) 19:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I think a confusing aspect is there is "Andean" spirituality, which is kind of everything and anything believed by different andean groups, and usually includes pachamama, tata inti and a few others, then there's Inca, and other specific ones like Aymara "cosmovisión" or spirituality. We differ in various things and as an Aymara I have seen all sorts of resources on the internet passed off as either or all of these, sometimes even mixing Mapuche beliefs or others! Perhaps these beliefs were different or mutually exclusive at some point, but then you have 2 empires hitting the region followed by colonisation so it´s quite hard to piece together how each one converges or overlaps and how one belief was replaced by another. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.152.25 (talk) 13:55, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Merge with Inca mythology?
There is an article called Inca mythology that covers the same thing as this article, but does so much better than this one, and the two could be merged. Is there any reason not to proceed with that? Kotuku33 (talk) 17:58, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Space
Did the Inca ever associate anything about their religion with space? Were there temples ever designed around the idea of looking up at the stars or faced a certain direction to see something? Rcm3b (talk) 19:55, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merger
Hi I'm proposing that content from Inca religion in Cusco be merged into this article, maybe as a section. What do others think? Mccapra (talk) 07:08, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

I think that is a great idea. The Inca religion in Cusco may differ, but it definitely should be part of this particular article. Athroop (talk) 16:45, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

What I'd like to add
I'd like to add information about the Inca deities. Give broad information about the deities and then also go into more detail about the major ones.Rcm3b (talk) 16:48, 6 October 2017 (UTC) Rcm3b (talk) 16:48, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Adding to the Deities Section
I would like to add more information about the different deities in the Inca religion. If I am able to incorporate a table with a detailed section about each, I believe it would help the article grow. I also want to use several reliable sources to find this information. Athroop (talk) 16:51, 6 October 2017 (UTC)Rcm3b (talk) 16:48, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

My group is replacing parts of the article by adding more information about the different deities. Athroop (talk) 16:29, 3 November 2017 (UTC)Rcm3b (talk) 16:48, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Improving the Deities Article
I added links to some of the deities to other wiki pages that go into a lot more detail than what this article does. I also added a picture of Viracocha. And also found another source to further back up the information already present in the article. Rcm3b (talk) 04:25, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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Cuzco/Cusco
In the section, "In Cusco," it includes both forms of Cuzco/Cusco. I would edit this myself, but I don't know what the precedent for this is. Thank you, Ghinga7 (talk) 20:56, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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