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News satire

News satire or news comedy is a type of parody presented in a format typical of mainstream journalism, and called a satire because of its content. News satire has been around almost as long as journalism itself, but it is particularly popular on the web, with websites like The Onion and The Babylon Bee, where it is relatively easy to mimic a legitimate news site. News satire relies heavily on irony and deadpan humor.

Two slightly different types of news satire exist. One form uses satirical commentary and sketch comedy to comment on real-world events, while the other presents wholly fictionalized news stories.

In history
Author Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain) was employed as a newspaper reporter before becoming famous as a novelist, and in this position he published many satirical articles. He left two separate journalism positions, Nevada (1864) fleeing a challenge to duel and San Francisco fleeing outraged police officials because his satire and fiction were often taken for the truthful accounts they were presented as. Ironically, the accuracy of many newspaper and autobiographical accounts used to follow the early life of Samuel Clemens is in doubt.

Newspapers still print occasional news satire features, in particular on April Fools' Day. This news is specifically identified somewhere in the paper or in the next day as a joke.

In 1933 and 1934, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer released a series of ten one-reel theatrical shorts called Goofy Movies, which included "Wotaphony Newsreel", a newsreel parody that paired actual footage with a mocking, deadpan narration.

Also in 1934, halfway through a Kraft Music Hall radio show, Dean Taylor ("Others collect the news, Dean makes it!") narrated a fake newsreel which began with a report on the New York Giants and Philadelphia Phillies being cancelled due to bad weather, and baseball season being rescheduled to when farmers need rain.

On television
News satire has been prevalent on television since the 1960s, when it enjoyed a renaissance in the UK with the "Satire Boom", led by comedians including Peter Cook, Alan Bennett, Jonathan Miller, David Frost, Eleanor Bron, and Dudley Moore, and the television program That Was The Week That Was. In the United States, the NBC network adapted this program and also produced its own content, from the "news" segment of Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In, to the still-running Saturday Night Live mock newscast segment "Weekend Update". Cable television got into the cable news act with Home Box Office's Not Necessarily the News in the mid-1980s.

In the 2000s, Comedy Central's The Daily Show became an icon of the American political satire genre, as Jon Stewart delved into opinionated political criticism. Its spinoff, Stephen Colbert's The Colbert Report, also enjoyed a high level of popularity during its 9-year run.

The 2004 National Annenberg Election Survey found that Daily Show viewers were better informed than those who relied solely on conventional network news, and Steven Young of Los Angeles Daily News compares the trust and influence that long-time host Jon Stewart enjoyed to that of CBS anchor Walter Cronkite in the 1970s. However, a study published in the Journal of Communication suggests that news entertainment shows such as The Daily Show or The Colbert Report may not be as influential in teaching voters about political issues and candidates as was previously thought. Researchers from Ohio State University have found reasons to discount how effective these shows are in informing the general public. People watching television news learned more about a candidate's position on issues and about political procedures compared to those watching the news entertainment shows, while news entertainment shows primarily taught viewers about a candidate’s personal background.

After the success of The Daily Show, Fox News launched its own news satire program in February 2007 with the title of The 1/2 Hour News Hour. Its creator describes it as "The Daily Show for conservatives", but it was canceled within a few months. Fox News then launched the more successful series Red Eye which ran from February 6, 2007 to April 7, 2017. As of 2017, news satire in the United States remains popular, especially in late night television; late-night talk shows often incorporate elements of news satire. Current American programs known primarily for their news satire include those hosted by former correspondents for The Daily Show (John Oliver's Last Week Tonight, Samantha Bee's Full Frontal, and The Daily Show itself under Trevor Noah's tenure), as well as Bill Maher's Real Time.

In Britain, several news satires have been created, most famously the works of Chris Morris. Shows such as the radio series On the Hour and its television version The Day Today parodied news programs very accurately, so they were almost believable and could have been confused with actual news programs, if it was not for the fake stories reported. Morris went on to continue this and several other themes in Brass Eye, one of the most controversial series on British television, especially after one episode broadcast mocked the way the news covered stories about pedophilia. Previous news satire shows in Britain include: The Late Edition with Marcus Brigstocke, on digital station BBC Four, which was heavily influenced by The Daily Show; News Knight with Sir Trevor McDonald, which parodied news differently by using an actual newsreader as the host; and Broken News, which featured several sketches of different news channels blending into each other.

As of 2018, current British news-related programs that have been described as satire include: Have I Got News for You and Mock the Week on the BBC; Channel 4's The Last Leg; ITV's Newzoids; and Dave's Unspun with Matt Forde.

Recent news satire television series in Australia include Working Dog Productions' Frontline, Shaun Micallef's Newstopia, and the many programs created by The Chaser since 2001. As of 2017, current programs of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation include Shaun Micallef's Mad as Hell and The Weekly with Charlie Pickering.

In Canada, This Hour Has 22 Minutes is an ensemble news satire show with four anchors on CBC. The Rick Mercer Report is a spinoff of 22 Minutes with former anchor Rick Mercer, and is also shown on CBC. CBC Radio One features This Is That, an improvised news satire program which mimics the style of actual CBC Radio public affairs programs. The 1960s series This Hour Has Seven Days, although primarily a real newsmagazine, included some satirical features in its format, such as political humor songs by actress and singer Dinah Christie. On French-language television networks in Quebec, noted news satire shows have included La Fin du monde est à 7 heures, Et Dieu créa... Laflaque and Infoman.

In Germany, heute-show (ZDF), and formerly Wochenshow (on SAT.1) and Freitag Nacht News (on RTL) are popular news satires on TV.

The Egyptian show El Bernameg, hosted by Bassem Youssef (on Capital Broadcast Center 2011-13 and MBC MASR from 2014 on), is modeled on The Daily Show. Launched in the wake of the Egyptian Revolution of 2011, it has been quite popular, but also a source of tremendous controversy, as Youssef has repeatedly been under investigation by the authorities for his willingness to poke fun at powerful people.

In France, Rendez-Vous avec Kevin Razy on Canal+ hosted by the comedian Kévin Razy between 2017 and 2019 was modeled on Last Week Tonight and 'The Tonight Show' with a band.

Online
News satire has been posted on the web almost since its inception, with The Onion foremost among recognized news satire sites due to its enduring and profitable business model. The content of the website, which started in 1996, is syndicated through mainstream media sites such as CNN and CNET. Today there are hundreds of news satire sites online, among which The Babylon Bee, considered the politically conservative counterpart of The Onion and also the more visited of the two. Sites such as Hollywood Leek specialize in satirical articles about celebrities and Hollywood entertainment news. Sometimes fake news reporters influence real world politics, like Citizen Kate whose 90 episodes covered the 2008 presidential campaign trail. She commissioned a butter bust of Obama presented to him by the Butter Cow Lady of Iowa, making international headlines. El Koshary Today is an Egyptian website that carries fake international news stories. Other satire sites attempt to emulate a genuine news source of some sort; these sites now take a variety of forms.

Because interesting stories are often emailed and can quickly become separated from their point of origin, it is not uncommon for news satire stories to be picked up as real by the media, as happened with a Faking News story about a lawsuit against Axe by an Indian man after having failed to attract a girl. Additionally, a parody post on Al Sharpton's parody News Groper blog was quoted as if real by MSNBC. Another satire publication, The Giant Napkin, published an article about a man literally fighting his house fire with more fire, a story taken seriously by several social networking sites. That Google News accepts news satire sources helps contribute to this phenomenon; while Google News does mark such stories with a "satire" tag, not all readers notice the tag; moreover, sometimes satirical sources may not carry the tag. At least one site, thespoof.com, relies on user-generated content in a Web 2.0 manner.

Some websites like Literally Unbelievable post the genuine and shocked reactions of individuals who believe the satirical articles are real. The reactions are taken from social media websites, such as Facebook, in which users can directly comment on links to the article's source.

Multi-author Indian website News That Matters Not, launched in November 2009, won a Manthan South Asia Award for socially responsible e-content (Digital Inclusion for Development), organized by Digital Empowerment Foundation. In India, several community-based news satire websites have crept up in recent times. Their popularity on Facebook defines that they are popular amongst the masses. Very new websites such as The Scoop Times, Fakekhabar.com, Sunkey.co.in and The UnReal Times also claim to be run by students, and were covered in The Times of India in July 2011.

A plethora of news satire sites participate in a hosted community site, which additionally runs its own satire news feed on HumorFeed. HumorFeed is notable for its relatively high standards of admission and active community involvement. At present, over 60 sites are contributing members, at least eight of which have published books and two of which publish regular hard-copy periodicals. Several HumorFeed members also run Check Please!, an online journal devoted to the serious examination of online satire, ranging from its role in relation to actual journalism to practical considerations of producing an online satire site.

In July 2009, a satire piece about Kanye West published on the website ScrapeTV was picked up by numerous media outlets and reported as factual,  despite disclaimers on the site.

Satirical Twitter accounts of news sources are popular, and they are often mistaken as legitimate sources. Online publications have made quizzes challenging users to distinguish between the tweets of the real Vice and the tweets of their parodies. The @Salondotcom parody account confused so many Twitter users that the real Salon.com reported them for impersonation.

In Pakistan, Khabaristan Times (KT) is a renowned satire and parody website with its commentary on Pakistani politics and the military. In 2015, a satirical piece by the website went viral and international media outlets including New York Times reported the story as if it were true. In 2017, KT was reportedly blocked in Pakistan, however, it appeared to be available to users outside Pakistan.

In the Middle East, The Pan-Arabia Enquirer is the most widely read satirical news website. It gained notoriety in 2013 when an article about Emirates launching shisha lounges on its fleet of A380s was picked up as fact by news websites around the world. , another middle eastern satire news publisher, has gained publicity in the region when they published an article about the Jordanian police arresting Santa Claus and confiscating all of his gifts for not paying the customs before entering Jordan.

In Turkey, Zaytung has become a source of mass reading since the socio-political Gezi Park 2013 protests in Turkey.

In the Caribbean, Trinidad and Tobago-based website Wired868 has two satirical columnists under the pseudonyms Mr Live Wire and Filbert Street, who comment satirically on relevant political and news stories such as the fall from power of ex-FIFA vice-president Jack Warner, media issues, general news and the challenges faced by former Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar and her People's Partnership coalition Government.

In Australia, there are numerous satirical news websites including The Damascus Dropbear (Christian satire), The Shovel, The Betoota Advocate, The (Un)Australian, The Fault Report, The Sauce and The Tunnel Presents. The Shovel mainly satirizes the Australian political and social culture and The Betoota Advocate satirizes the political right and Australian journalism. In February 2015, The Betoota Advocate shot to fame after the publication's editor's sneaked in to the media scrum outside Parliament House in Canberra during a leadership spill motion and managed to interview some of Australia's most high-profile media personalities and politicians, posing as legitimate journalists. The fallout from The Betoota Advocate stunt has led to a security increase surrounding parliamentary media and screening of all crew. The Fault Report was established in 2014 and also has a political editorial focus. British-born Australian author John Birmingham once described The Fault Report as, "Like The Onion. But with Vegemite", on his blog Cheeseburger Gothic. The Tunnel Presents, which has been online since June 2011, is by Brisbane-based satire writing team The Tunnel and has political and social satire stories with a Queensland focus.

In Italy, the most famous website specialized in mock-journalism is Lercio. Born as a parody of the popular press, but in addition to the tabloid press, its goals are also the domestic and foreign politics. The website was created in the 2012 and the editorial staff is composed of authors who have contributed to La Palestra, a column wanted on his blog by the comedian and satirical author Daniele Luttazzi. In few years Lercio saw the publication of a book with a collection of 2014 best articles. From the same year Lercio it is present on the national radio with a daily strip. Thanks to the many fans the articles are shared on the social network with a good success and, mostly in the beginning of his history, some articles were taken as true by the national press.

In Hungary, HírCsárda is the number one news satire medium. The site, started in 2010, has drawn public attention after the Hungarian government demanded that an article should be emended that dealt with the then state secretary of education Rózsa Hoffmann. The page has since been threatened by various celebrities, but has remained active regardless. Also present in Hungary is Központi Újság (Central News), a news satire website of the joke party, Hungarian Two Tailed Dog Party.

Popular Canadian satirical news websites include The Beaverton, The Daily Bonnet, and Walking Eagle News.

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Speedy. created by vandal script. Mikkalai 00:34, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. One of many articles flood-created by a vandal. An admin should just delete them all and save us from having to tag them all. Shanes 00:36, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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The Ooze

The Ooze is a video game developed by Sega Technical Institute and released in 1995 for the Sega Genesis. In the game, players take the role of a slimy puddle of liquid and face off against various enemies and obstacles.

Gameplay and plot

The game starts at a chemical plant known as "The Corporation," with scientist Dr. Daniel Caine sneaking into the research lab where he worked, in order to find evidence that crimes were being committed using a toxic gas he created. Caine discovers that his colleagues are planning "Operation: Omega": a plan to release a plague upon the populace, and make a fortune because they hold the only cure. However, the Director of The Corporation discovers Caine in the lab. Caine is disposed of by means of chemical waste, but the chemicals do not kill him; instead, they alter him into the angry, sentient, formless creature known as "The Ooze". Swearing revenge, the doctor seeks two things: to stop his former colleagues plan using his Ooze form’s powers, and to assume his human form once again. He must now find the DNA helices scattered throughout the wasteland or else end up imprisoned in the Director's lava lamp.

Players control Dr. Caine as a puddle of ooze with a head, who can move around and use two attacks. One is stretching out a maneuverable sliver of ooze whose length is only limited by how much ooze he currently has to attack. Players can also spit gobs of ooze, which reduces the size of the ooze. Enemy attacks deplete the size of the ooze puddle as well, and the Ooze will die either if he becomes very small or if his head is attacked directly. He can also die by dropping off the edges of certain areas, or staying on a drain for too long. Numerous puzzles must be completed in order to progress from one level to another. An optional goal of the game is finding and collecting all 50 helices, in order to see the game's good ending.

Development and releases
Dave Sanner of Sega Technical Institute, who was also behind the game Sonic Spinball, came up with the concept for The Ooze and was its lead programmer. The game's main artist and designer was Stieg Hedlund, who took over after the original designer left. Hedlund considered The Ooze a great opportunity and worked to move the game along and made the game's first stage to teach players how to play. Though marketing wanted to change the look of The Ooze to a more cartoon-based design, the game's art director refused, fearing it would change the tone of the game. Progress was later hampered with the departure of programmer Scott Chandler and artist Marte Thompson.

Sega's marketing department considered bundling The Ooze as a pack-in game with the Genesis Nomad, a handheld version of the Genesis; however, this did not occur. The Ooze was released in Japan on September 22, 1995, and in North America, with a European release in December. The game was later included as a built-in game for the Arcade Legends Sega Genesis 2 and in the compilation game Sonic Mega Collection Plus. It is also unlockable in the Japanese version of Sonic Mega Collection.

Reception
The Ooze received mostly negative reviews. The four reviewers of Electronic Gaming Monthly gave the game 3.875 out of ten, commenting that while The Ooze is highly original, the graphics are choppy and the increasing difficulty as the ooze grows makes the game frustrating, slow-paced and generally not fun. Next Generation similarly said: "After the originality wears off, the game becomes quite blah." Arguing that the game's attempt at an original approach should nonetheless be commended, they gave it three out of five stars. Reviewing for GamePro, Johnny Ballgame gave faint praise to the music and sound effects, but slammed the controls as poor and the gameplay as tedious. He concluded: "Oozing with mediocrity, this game never delivers anything worthwhile or worth buying." Mike Salmon of Game Players shared the same sentiments about the gameplay while appreciating the sound effects, but offered praise for the game's uniqueness.

Game Informer gave the game an overall score of 6.75 out of ten, stating: “The Ooze is a game unlike any other, with unique control and story line.”

In a retrospective review, Allgame gave it a score of four out of five. The reviewer said the game is unique and clever, and praised the heavy techno pop music and realistic sound effects for complementing the game’s atmosphere and level themes. He criticized the graphics as dull and uninteresting and said the game does not truly stand out, yet is still worthwhile, concluding: "It's just a quietly original, unassuming little game that you'll find yourself playing more often than you may have originally intended."

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Fake news (disambiguation)

Fake news is a type of hoax or deliberate spread of misinformation published in traditional news media or via social media.

Fake news may also refer to:

Arts and entertainment

 * The Fake News Show, a British comedy panel show

Other uses

 * Fake news in the United States
 * Media bias in the United States
 * Fake news website, deliberate publishing on websites of hoaxes, propaganda, and disinformation purporting to be real news
 * Fake news websites in the United States
 * List of fake news websites

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Talk:Fake news (disambiguation)

Revert dab to redirect Broadconcept not dab
This looks more like a WP:DABCONCEPT than a dab. A quick look makes me think the merged target seems to cover it, so we should just revert the creation of the dab so it is a redirect again to the merged article. Rather than tagging as "create a dabconcept here", let's just revert to the redirect? Thoughts User:Robofish, User:Jfhutson User:Radagast83 ? Widefox ; talk 13:47, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 * i.e. make dab into dabconcept and move to Fake news or just create directly at Fake news Widefox ; talk 11:17, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to what? Fake news can mean deliberate misinformation or satire. Right now if you Google fake news you're only going to find the former sense, and I might support moving Fake news site to Fake news and putting a hat on it.--JFH (talk) 02:26, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * User:Jfhutson depends on the scope of the DABCONCEPT (and the articles). If we split articles by intent then we have several articles Fake news News satire Video news release, but it still seems like a broad concept to list them all - as they're grouped by "not being real news", more than grouped by "ambiguous titles". That would leave a useful broadconcept at the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Fake news (with Fake news either being the basis of the broadconcept, or moved to a recent Internet incarnation of it with an approriate title). Currently this dab page is accruing items that are inside the scope of that broadconcept, with no examples outside i.e. no dab page needed. Widefox ; talk 11:56, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Content-wise the primary topic is Fake news website, not Fake news. Fake news was created later essentially as a POV fork and has much less material. There is a relevant RfC you might want to weigh in on at Talk:Fake news website. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 17:16, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes Dr. Fleischman (commented there, with link to this here), with Fake news website currently having the Internet era stuff, fake news could be a broad concept. As there are competing merge requests with them, I'll just tag with dabconcept for now, as I'm guessing recentism will desire Fake news website to be at the primary topic fake news, preventing a dabconcept there for now until a consensus can be reached. Widefox ; talk 11:17, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Primary topic

 * Dr. Fleischman - the dab has a primary topic - see WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for how they are styled. I undid this which goes against WP:MOSDAB on those grounds. I'm not sure what "undid 2 good faith revs by Widefox - innocent perpetuation of a WP:POVFORK - we do not have consensus that that is the meaning of fake news" means as I didn't change the text, so I reverted as invalid.  Widefox ; talk 13:02, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * See my comment below in the section titled "Primary topic." --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 17:35, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Widefox, please don't change this dab page to treat Fake news as the primary topic without obtaining consensus. That page was a POV fork and is of low quality, while Fake news website covers the same content in much greater detail and is almost certainly of much greater value to readers. By making your change, you are steering readers away from a better, more complete article and to a worse, less complete article. I understand that Fake news appears on its face to be the "primary topic," but that is not how we make these decisions. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 17:26, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Dr. Fleischman a primary topic is not what you think it is. It is a fact that this dab has a primary topic - see the title Fake news (disambiguation). It has "(disambiguation)" in the title as the basename is taken by the primary topic Fake news. If you wish to change that, you will need to get consensus for a move. Until then, please read the links in the summary and above. Repeatedly undoing normal fixing the style of a dab with a primary topic is getting disruptive, please stop. . I'll get more opinions at the project in the meantime. Widefox ; talk 22:36, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * While I'm no expert in WP:DAB, I see nothing in that guideline supporting your view that the dab page is titled "Fake news (disambiguation)," ergo the primary topic is automatically Fake news. Guideline issues aside, I disagree with your edit on good faith grounds, I reverted and took the matter to talk in line with BRD, and I don't appreciate you calling my reversion disruptive just because your position is based on "normal fixing" and mine is not. I'm saying that "normal fixing" hurts the encyclopedia in this case. Please respect our difference of opinion. I applaud your effort to bring more editors into the discussion. I've been struggling to think of how we can get these articles out of the weird limbo they're in, and hopefully more eyes will help. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 23:38, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Dr. Fleischman Did you even read MOSDAB as repeatedly asked? The first section MOS:DABPAGENAME If there is already a primary topic, then "(disambiguation)" is added to the title of the disambiguation page, as in Jupiter (disambiguation)" Widefox ; talk 00:25, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I guess we're not communicating very well. MOS:DABPAGENAME tells you how to name a dab page once a primary topic is identified. It doesn't tell you how to identify the primary topic. Unless I'm missing something? --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 01:20, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Dr. Fleischman I hear you clearly, you don't agree that the primary topic is/should be Fake news because you consider it a POVfork. The merits of that is discussed elsewhere and offtopic wrt the current primary topic. Get consensus to change it. Until then, the dab should be styled per the consensus at MOSDAB. The second flawed argument is a common misconception that putting a primary topic at the top is in someway to promote it, in actuality it is done for the exact opposite reason - as it's assumed a reader has navigated from it and so doesn't want it (all per our guidelines). It isn't communication when you cling to this falsehood "I see nothing in that guideline supporting your view that the dab page is titled "Fake news (disambiguation)," ergo the primary topic is automatically Fake news." To clarify communication, it isn't my "view", it's the fact of the location of the pages. As we're quite strict about formatting dab pages, there's not much room for "alternative facts". Can I be more clear than that, to eliminate any communication issues? Widefox ; talk 01:50, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow, so my view is now alternative facts. Clearly this turned from what I thought was a civil discussion of how best to run the encyclopedia to something much more personal. How about if you strike the personal invective and we resume discussing this matter like adults? (And please stop pinging me with every comment.) --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 02:43, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Dr. Fleischman, when there are a pair of pages with the same title, except that one has "(disambiguation)" included in the title, there are two scenarios possible: If an editor feels that Foo should not be the primary topic, they proceed with a requested move, and it is discussed.
 * 1) Foo (disambiguation) redirects to Foo, which is a dab page, and there is no primary topic.
 * 2) Foo has an article at that title that is the primary topic, and Foo (disambiguation) holds the dab page.

Please note that "primary topic" has absolutely nothing to do with the article's quality or lack thereof. It's the subject of the article that is considered primary or not. Examples of primary topics are apple, north, night sky, and star. If you look at apple (disambiguation), north (disambiguation), night sky (disambiguation), and star (disambiguation), you will see a generally consistent formatting in the first couple of lines. This is what Widefox was trying to do on this page: conform to established style. Whether "fake news" is the primary topic here is a different issue entirely. — Gorthian (talk) 03:51, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I understand that that is the typical case, but I don't think it's the case here. Let me explain the story of these article. Here, once upon a time, not all that long ago, Fake news website was the only article about fake news, and Fake news was a redirect to Fake news website. All of the content development was at Fake news website. There was an RfC to move Fake news website to Fake news, but it ended with no consensus. So things stayed that way, until an editor who didn't like how Fake news website was being edited copied half of its material to Fake news and created this page to direct traffic to Fake news. Since then Fake news has remained woefully inadequate while Fake news website has continued to be developed. There has never been any consensus about what to do about this, but a ceasefire solution was to make this dab page treat both articles equally. That way, at least readers aren't being rutted to one page or the other. Widefox's edit, which I understand is inline with typical practice, disturbs this ceasefire.
 * Now I understand that apple, north, etc. are primary topics, but that doesn't mean that Fake news is the primary topic for this dab. Both of you seem to be following common practice for standard dabs. What I'm saying is that this isn't a standard dab, so we shouldn't follow the standard pattern. Rather, if you and Widefox are going to cite the guideline, then you should at least try to follow it. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 04:34, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * DrFleischman will you allow others to edit this dab now? WP:CONSENSUS not WP:OWN.
 * I repeat, it is a common misconception that the styling of a primary topic on a dab is somehow promoting that entry, in fact the opposite (see above). As we've both said, to remove or change the primary topic will take an RM, again consensus. Until then the titles of the articles (whatever their quality) remains. (and even if we revert to having a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT, the dab still has a primary topic and is styled the same, so this is all futile) Can you link to where some sort of WP:IAR "ceasefire" consensus exists? Your aim to redress a quality issue in the articles here at the dab is misguided. It is only about navigation (see my previous answer, the styling doesn't even do what you think it does). As we work by consensus, instead of telling me I need consensus to edit this dab and repeatedly undoing my edit, it is the opposite - as you are editing against consensus of MOSDAB, and opinions of other editors here, please stop now and gain consensus before continuing against the consensus. Widefox ; talk 11:19, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Fake news website which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 20:17, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Redirect of Fake news to Hoax
, I'm confused as to why you want Fake news to redirect to Hoax rather than to Fake news (disambiguation), given that of the four pages linked to at Fake news (disambiguation), Fake news website has been receiving 5 times the page views of Hoax since it was created. If you object to the existence of Fake news website and think it should be deleted or merged into Hoax, then you should say so on its talk page before editing redirects accordingly. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 20:25, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I absolutely do not object to the existence of that page. The hoax page links to it in the hat-notice now. What I object to is how we're somehow attempting to make a distinction between hoax and fake news — when in fact there is none. Fake news websites is a new phenomenon, fake news is not. I intend to work on these pages as soon as I have some more time, but for now I can give you reference to Tim Wu's excellent book on the topic "The Attention Merchants". It has some really spot-on examples of the New York Sun spreading fake news in order to sell more copies. This is the same phenomenon and we shouldn't try to split them. The same is true with Soviet misinformation, what they spread was hoaxes in the form of political propaganda, which is exactly the same phenomenon as we're seeing today. This seems undisputed when you read the scholarly sources. Carl Fredrik   💌 📧 20:31, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok, I understand your position, but I don't think this is a proper basis for steering inquisitive readers to Hoax rather than to Fake news (disambiguation). The purpose of the dab page is to help readers find what they're looking for, and most of them are looking for Fake news website, not Hoax, regardless of whether there's a distinction between the two concepts or not. I think your goal would be better served by gathering a consensus at Talk:Fake news website that there should be something in that article saying that there is no distinction between fake news websites and hoaxes. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 20:47, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Currently it's the same amount of clicks as if this had run us past a disambiguation page, and I would argue it has at least the same degree of visibility. Hoax should be the page people are looking for, that it is inadequate is unfortunate but shouldn't prompt us to disambiguate instead. I will see what I can do tomorrow, it is astounding that Hoax which is such a major topic doesn't have a better article. Carl Fredrik   💌 📧 20:52, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It seems like you're putting the cart before the horse, but that's just me. I posted notices of this discussion at Talk:Hoax and Talk:Fake news website. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 21:29, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * And I noticed your posting, thank you DrFleischman, but I had already been independently giving Carl the third degree over at his usertalk page, on the question of whether 'hoax' is in fact a synonym for 'fake news'. But now I see that he is busy expanding the content of Hoax, so that it contains a subsection summarizing the definition of 'fake news' / 'fake news website' (and a pointer thereto).  So I am withdrawing my complaints for the moment, I think that having fake news be a redirect to Hoax which has a Template:main pointing the interested reader over to Fake news website, is probably going to turn out just fine.  Even though there are plenty of kinds of 'fake news' which are not in fact hoaxes, I think it is reasonably correct to say that the vast majority of the readership, when they search for 'fake news' here on wikipedia, are going to be wanting the hoax-variety.  Which has a long pedigree, as CFCF points out, there are journalistic scandals going back indefinitely (which are a kind of hoax), and there are satire-comedy examples going back for some time.  There are some counterexamples, such as the brief trend of calling video news releases 'fake news' and the FBI sting example where an undercover agent covertly impersonated a journalist and fabricated some stories, but those are corner-cases.  While I definitely disagree with CFCF that the phrase 'fake news' is merely a synonym for 'hoax' the argument can be made the in the majority of their uses of the phrase the majority of the sources *are* in fact talking about hoaxes.  Does that make sense?  47.222.203.135 (talk) 21:45, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I think you might be missing the point of this discussion, which isn't about what content should or will be at Hoax or Fake news website in the future but about where this redirect should point to right now. As it stands, the evidence is that most (but not all) people looking for content related to "fake news" are looking for Fake news website, not Hoax. It's inappropriate to steer them away from the page they want to read, and toward a page that they might want to read someday in the future. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 22:30, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No, I realized the point. You and I just disagree about whether or not the two-sentences-and-a-hatnote, were "okay enough for now", per below.  Do we actually have evidence, for what the readership clicks when the are sent to a DAB page?  I.e. are their numeric counts that say how many readers clicked on fake news website after landing on fake news (disambiguation), and how many instead clicked on hoax, and so on?  That data would interest me, but I didn't think wikipedia recorded anything except raw pageviews.  47.222.203.135 (talk) 04:18, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The current redirect to Hoax underscores the problem. We have a redirect to a summary section that consists of 2 sentences and a hatnote to the main article. I'm not an expert on redirects but I believe that's a no-no somewhere in the guidelines. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 22:37, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No, the two-sentences-and-a-hatnote was the first phase of a solution that CFCF was working on. I didn't see it as a big deal that users who searched for 'fake news' within wikipedia geting directed to Hoax, and *then* clicking to get the dab-page.  (That structure-change has since been reverted by User:Wbm1058, per below.  Which is also fine by me, although I don't see keeping it the older way as any big whoop.)  The only thing that was making me unhappy, was the interim situation when CFCF had redirected from 'fake news' straight to 'hoax' but was NOT yet giving the reader a pointer from hoax to the fake-news-disambiguation page.  In other words, I was happy with it the way things were before, unhappy when there WAS no two-sentences-and-a-hatnote, then mostly happy again with the two-lines-and-a-hatnote version... whereas you were unhappy with everything but the long-standing consensus.  And were backed up by JzG and by Wbm1058 who reverted CFCF.  Which stance I can understand, although I don't really agree.  'Tis a minor point in my book, that may resolve itself when CFCF finishes what they attempted to start. 47.222.203.135 (talk) 04:18, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

 * For my money, the dab page is the more appropriate target. Fake news is about more than just hoaxes, and the user will be given the choice of how best to direct their search. Guy (Help!) 01:07, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
 * — how is fake news different from hoaxes? Hoaxes were a primary feature of early 20th century penny presses and yellow journalism, with the intent to gain financially or politically in the same way as today. In Jim Wu's The Attention Merchants there are so excellent examples of just this happening and how the phenomenon is exactly the same as before. Using websites is new, but seeing as Hoax prominently links to them I think it is appropriate. I will expand the Hoax article later today. Carl Fredrik   💌 📧 09:39, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The intent is different. A hoax is usually essentially benign, whereas fake news definitely is not. It's like the difference between bullshit and lies. Guy (Help!) 18:19, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It really isn't, but I see I'm going to need more to show for if I want to argue for this. I'll rewrite the article and we can discuss this again. Will ping... Carl Fredrik   💌 📧 20:30, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

The original Fake news article was created on 25 March 2005. I just added News propaganda to the dab, and look in wonderment to see how it ever went missing. wbm1058 (talk) 19:09, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * at 00:28, 21 April 2005 Fake news moved to Managed and planted news
 * at 00:40, 21 April 2005 Managed and planted news moved to Distorted news
 * at 17:54, 3 July 2005 Distorted news moved to News propaganda.

Redirecting Fake news to Hoax is kind of like redirecting Football to Sport. lol wbm1058 (talk) 19:13, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Redirects: Example: "91,000 felons illegally registered to vote" – wbm1058 (talk) 19:54, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Counterfeit news
 * Invented news
 * Forged news
 * Faked news
 * Manipulated news
 * Planted news
 * Managed and planted news
 * Distorted news
 * Campaign journalism
 * No it really really isn't. I'll rewrite the article and you will see why not... Carl Fredrik   💌 📧 20:29, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * My thanks to wbm1058 for pointing out the old cold trail of 2005 editing on the 'fake news' topic -- which in those days meant (when it was not Colbert/Stewart/SNL/TheOnion/satireNews) specifically video news releases by governmental PR groups with hired actors playing the role of pseudojournalist and tossing softball questions to the governmental officials, after which the PR firms would push the pre-packaged agenda-framing video footage to the 24/7 news stations... and many of them would air it verbatim, thereby putting the stamp of journalistic approval onto what was essentially domestic propaganda. GWB got heat for it, so did Bill Clinton, and GHWB also had some problems with the phenomena (not called 'fake news' at the time but merely video news releases) in the Nariyah incident.  I have added some other wikipedia-archaeology links over here, if anyone wants it.  47.222.203.135 (talk) 04:18, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * In other words, WP:COI news. – wbm1058 (talk) 14:25, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

–, would you like to write something about this definition in the definitions section? It certainly does not seem to be the default definition today, maybe we should see over which articles on Wikipedia use this definition? Carl Fredrik  💌 📧 16:29, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

History of fake news
Looking through some sources I'm trying to write a history section for this article. However I find it to be difficult, because there is no clear demarcation from the traditional hoax. Politico starts its story on the history of fake news by stating a 1475 false story spread by Bernardino da Feltre, and states that fake news is as old as the printing press. Has anyone else found good sources that corroborate this? Carl Fredrik  💌 📧 16:28, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * This is just common sense. It wouldn't surprise me to find that historians have found handwritten "fake news" disseminated on papyrus or parchment scrolls in ancient Greece. Anything to smear opponents in the pursuit of power.
 * Someone just needs to do the research. wbm1058 (talk) 16:35, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No, wbm1058, those ancient hypotheticals would be propaganda or merely rumour (perhaps politically weaponized as a whispering campaign), but would NOT be 'fake news' in any precise exacting sense. To qualify as 'fake news' the story has to either brandjack the name of a news media entity, such as ABCnews.com.co (note the .co which is in South America), or it has to involve impersonating a reporter (see the FBI sting operation in 2007 mentioned in draftspace), or it has to involve *paid actors* pretending to be news reporters and then *real television stations* playing along with the facade (see video news release), or it has to be written in a journalistic style at minimum (e.g. see React365 'prank your friends' website at list of fake news websites).

 * You cannot have 'fake news' unless there is, in one form or another, the attempt to hijack the good reputation of the investigative journalism industry, for striving to achieve objective truth in their reporting. Thus there was no such thing as 'fake news' in the days of the pyramids and papyrus, there was propaganda, yes, and rumours of course (and various other kinds of lying), while much later in the 1800s there was yellow journalism, and hoaxes have a long history, while practical jokes have existed since forever.
 * In academic journals, "fake news" is used as an umbrella term that includes hoaxes, yellow journalism, propaganda, and even satire. Until recently, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and SNL's Weekend Update were referred to as "fake news." Nowadays, the term is taking on a pejorative flavor, but I still think you'll find it used more generally—and I don't think the previous information on fake news should be ignored just because the definition of the term has evolved. As recently as 2014, researchers were using the term "fake news" to refer to the propaganda put out by Putin's Channel One during the early days of the Crimea conflict in Ukraine. Narrowing the definition today will make it difficult to understand and converse about what has already been written on the topic. (Scapulus) 21:31, February 2017 (UTC)

 * But to count as 'fake news' you have something that is 'real news' which the fakers are capitalizing upon, and some news media which has a non-horrible reputation that the fakers are temporarily swiping. I don't know when news first became respected enough that it was possible to have fake news, but I know that for a long time news was almost entirely yellow journalism aka biased news (see media bias).  The reason that fake news is a relatively new problem, is because honest objective journalism is a relatively modern concept!  The reason that fake-news-website as a clickbait-scam, are a *very* modern concept, has to do with the *decline* in people's trust in the objectivity of the mainstream media, whilst simultaneously their hunger for confirmation bias of their own biased beliefs.  It is not a simple topic to clarify in encyclopedic neutral prose.
 * But we should only make our prose as simple as possible, and no simpler! I definitely do not want wikipedia to be imprecise, and say things like, "fake news has existed since the dawn of time" when what we really mean is that lying has existed since the dawn of language.  Hoaxes are a particular *type* of lying with a fairly complicated infrastructure supporting the lie in question, and fake news is a *very* specialized type of lying, that hijacks the broad reputation of journalists NOT to lie too much while simultaneously taking advantage of the perceived bias that the public also believes mainstream journalists labor underneath.  47.222.203.135 (talk) 18:24, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

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Vadtal

Vadtal is located in the Kheda district of Gujarat, India. It is the pilgrim centre of Swaminarayan Sampraday and the headquarter of Swaminarayan's temple. Gomati is a holy lake in Vadtal.

In 2011, ONGC announced that it would begin drilling operations in Vadtal in search of oil and gas. Its previous exploration in 2007 in Vadtal had found an oil field, which it is developing.

Transport
Reaching Vadtal is very easy. Vadtal is connected via State Highway 5 km far. Vadtal is also connected with two Cities named as Nadiad and Anand. Vadtal is 15 km far from Both the cities. It takes 30min drives from both the places via public or private transport. Reaching Vadtal from Anand is even better as frequency of city bus is available after every 30min. Vadtal is also a railway terminus. A 14 mile long broad gauge line was opened in 1929 connecting it with Anand, benefitting pilgrims visiting the Swaminarayan Temple.

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Bajra

Bajra may refer to:

 * Bajra (Ludhiana East), Punjab, India
 * Bajra, Pakistan, in Punjab province
 * The name in Indian languages for pearl millet

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Dinosaurus Stereophonicus

Dinosaurus Stereophonicus is the eighth album by the Finnish rock group CMX, released in 2000. It was recorded after the band had decided to stop touring and become a full-time studio band. The decision only lasted until 2002.

The two-hour-long double album is heavily influenced by 1970s progressive rock, such as King Crimson, Pink Floyd and Yes. Many of the songs contain long solos and odd time signatures. Keyboards are also an important part of the album's sound.

Despite being over six minutes long, "Myrskyn ratsut" was CMX's first number one single. String instruments and steel guitar can be heard on the slow, calm and melodic song. Shortly thereafter, "Jatkuu niinkuin sade" became the second CMX song to top the Finnish singles chart. Dinosaurus Stereophonicus was certified gold quickly after its release.

Track listing
All songs written by CMX with lyrics by A. W. Yrjänä.

Disc 1

 * 1) "Kreetan härkä" – 4:58 (instrumental) ("Bull of Crete")
 * 2) "Kansantalouden saavutusten näyttely" – 4:12 ("Exhibition of National Economy's Achievements")
 * 3) "Ei koskaan" – 6:21 ("Never")
 * 4) "Iliman pielet" – 4:21 ("Frames of the Air")
 * 5) "Ohjelmansiirtoketjun mittaustauko" – 2:24 (instrumental) "Measuring Break of the Programme Shift Process")
 * 6) "Pelon enkeli" – 5:36 ("Angel of Fear")
 * 7) "Loputtomasti samaa" – 5:43 ("Endlessly Same")
 * 8) "Ilmestyskirjanpitäjä" – 1:57 ("Accountant of the Book of Revelations")
 * 9) "Kylmänmarja" – 8:59 ("Cold's Berry")
 * 10) "Baikonur" – 10:08
 * 11) "Negatiivinen alkusoitto" – 1:18 (instrumental) ("Negative Overture")

Disc 2

 * 1) "Jatkuu niinkuin sade" – 4:29 ("Goes on Like the Rain")
 * 2) "Tuonen lintu" – 5:29 ("Bird of the Underworld")
 * 3) "Luuhamara" – 4:18 ("Bone Poll")
 * 4) "Tämän runon tahtoisin unohtaa" – 4:47 ("I Would Like to Forget This Poem")
 * 5) "Kultaiset portaat" – 5:27 ("Golden Stairs")
 * 6) "Meidän syntimme" – 4:52 ("Our Sins")
 * 7) "Myrskyn ratsut" – 6:27 ("Steeds of Squall")
 * 8) "Karsikkopuu" – 5:33 ("Tree of the Dead")
 * 9) "Olkoon täysi sinun maljasi" – 10:00 ("Let Thy Cup be Full")
 * 10) "Suurta yötä päin" – 3:40 ("Towards the Great Night")
 * 11) "Tähdet sylissään" – 7:55 ("Stars in her Bosom")

Personnel

 * A. W. Yrjänä - vocals, bass
 * Janne Halmkrona - guitars
 * Timo Rasio - guitars
 * Tuomas Peippo - drums
 * Gabi Hakanen - producer, engineer, mixing
 * Illusion Rake - producer, engineer, mixing
 * Teropekka Virtanen - engineer
 * Mika Jussila - mastering
 * Vincent B - sleeve art/design
 * Arto Kinnunen - sleeve art/design
 * Ari Talusén - photography
 * Martti Salminen - keyboards
 * Ann Bell Fell
 * Aki Eronen
 * Risto Salmi
 * Kampin Laulu choir

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List of Alabama locations by per capita income

Alabama has a per capita income of $28,934 (2020). Its median household income is $52,035 (2020), with 16.1% of Alabama residents living in poverty.

Alabama counties ranked by per capita income
Data is from the 2020 United States census.


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Hi Rep, I have just received your question about difficult users. We have two policies regarding such editors, depending on the severity of their actions. Firstly there is Requests for comment, which is usually used to draw attention to articles where an edit dispute is taking place so that the conflict can be resolved one way or another.

The second process we have is Requests for arbitration, where the actions of a user are judged by a group of up to 12 people. This process tends to be for serious misconduct, with the arbitration committee able to reccomend resolutions up to infinite bans for the parties involved. This process is very much a last resort and tends to be somewhat protracted.

As for Painbearer: I have restored the NPOV tag on Phil Selway, if he removes it again I will take the article to Requests for Comment. I think a lot of the problem with him is that he means well but cannot take criticism.

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Castle of Loarre

The Castle of Loarre is a Romanesque Castle and Abbey located near the town of the same name, Huesca Province in the Aragon autonomous region of Spain. It is one of the oldest castles in Spain.

History
The castle was built largely during the 11th and 13th centuries, when its position on the frontier between Christian and Muslim lands gave it strategic importance. The first of the two major building programs began circa 1020, when Sancho el Mayor (r. 1063–94) reconquered the surrounding lands from the Muslims. After 1070, Loarre became increasingly important. In 1073, King Sancho Ramírez installed a community of Augustinian canons, and it was from Loarre that he prepared for the conquest of Huesca in 1094. In 1097, however, his successor, Peter I of Aragon and Navarre, donated all the goods of Loarre to a new royal monastery at Montearagon. This evidence suggests that the second major construction program was undertaken between 1073 and 1097, and much building evidently does date from this period. By comparison with other monuments, however, it is also clear that the building and decorative program continued into the 12th century.

The location appears in the 2005 epic film Kingdom of Heaven.

Architecture
The castle's location on a rocky outcrop affected the layout; it was not possible to have one unified structure, and like many castles, Loarre was a collection of buildings bounded by curtain walls. Originally the internal plan included two towers and a chapel behind several curtain walls. Towards the end of the 11th century, an additional chapel was built in Romanesque style just outside the castle walls.

The outermost walls of the castle and their eight towers were erected in the 13th or 14th century. The church and castle have been the subject of numerous restorations, a major one in 1913 and subsequent ones, particularly during the 1970s, have resulted in the rebuilding of many walls and towers that had fallen into disrepair.

At least three towers, two of which survive, the keep (Torre del Homenaje) and the "Tower of the Queen" (Torre de la Reina), as well as a chapel dedicated to Saint Mary of Valverde and connecting walls are attributed to this campaign. The keep was built in an isolated position in front of the fortifications, to which it was connected by a wooden bridge. It contained a basement and five floors. The Torre de la Reina, comprising a basement and three floors, is particularly noteworthy for three sets of twin-arched windows, with columns of exaggerated entasis and trapezoidal capitals that have been related to both Lombard and Mozarabic architectural forms. The chapel is composed of a single-cell nave with an eastern apse covered by a semicircular vault. The original timber roof of the nave was replaced by a vault at the end of the 11th century.

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International Thriller Writers

International Thriller Writers (ITW), was founded October 9, 2004, at Bouchercon XXXV, the "World Mystery and Suspense Conference", in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Six months later, some 150 authors with more than one billion books sold worldwide had joined the organization as founding members. As of October 5, 2014, the organization's website boasts more than 3,100 members in 28 countries.

History
On October 9, 2004, at Bouchercon XXXV, the "World Mystery and Suspense Conference", in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, International Thriller Writers was founded. The organization was founded by Gayle Lynds and David Morrell and they became the organization's first co-presidents.

Notable members / alumni
Notable members of International Thriller Writers include the following.
 * David Baldacci
 * Steve Berry
 * Dale Brown
 * Sandra Brown
 * S.A. Cosby
 * Lisa Gardner
 * Brian Garfield
 * David Liss
 * Lee Child
 * Lincoln Child
 * Clive Cussler
 * David Dun
 * Joseph Finder
 * Tess Gerritsen
 * Raelynn Hillhouse
 * Gregg Hurwitz
 * Faye Kellerman
 * Jonathan Kellerman
 * John Lescroart
 * Katherine Neville
 * Ridley Pearson
 * Kira Peikoff
 * Douglas Preston
 * M. J. Rose
 * R. L. Stine
 * M. Diane Vogt
 * Stuart Woods

Events and awards
This is the first professional organization for thriller authors. The first thriller festival (ThrillerFest) for readers was held in June 2006 in Scottsdale, Arizona, at which the International Thriller Writers Awards for outstanding work in the field were announced.

Other events and programs include:
 * Debut Authors Program
 * Online Thriller School
 * The Big Thrill online magazine
 * Write2Thrill.org knowledge portal (upcoming)
 * ITW Town Halls - video seminars
 * Operation Thriller - USO tour

Thriller series
James Patterson edited the first anthology of all-original thriller short stories, titled Thriller: Stories to Keep You Up All Night, released in June 2006 by Mira.

Clive Cussler edited the second, titled  Thriller 2: Stories You Just Can't Put Down, released May 26, 2009 by Mira.

Sandra Brown edited the third, titled Thriller 3: Love Is Murder, released May 29, 2012 by Mira.

Watchlist series
Originally broadcast weekly on Audible.com (25 September 2007 to 13 November 2007), as a 17-part serial. It is now available in other formats than audiobook.

The sequel to The Chopin Manuscript.

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Helsa

Helsa is a municipality and village in the district of Kassel, in Hesse, Germany. The municipality is situated in the Losse valley amongst the hills of the Kaufunger Wald, approx. 15 km east of Kassel.

Division of the municipality
The municipality consists of the villages, Eschenstruth (including Settlement Waldhof), Helsa, St. Ottilien  and  Wickenrode.

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Cynoscephalae

Cynoscephalae (Κυνὸς κεφαλαί, meaning "dog's heads") may refer to:

Geography

 * Cynoscephalae (Boeotia), a town of ancient Boeotia
 * Cynoscephalae (Thessaly), a town of ancient Thessaly
 * Cynoscephalae Hills (Boeotia), a range of hills in ancient Boeotia
 * Cynoscephalae Hills (Thessaly), a range of hills in ancient Thessaly (where the battles below were fought)

History

 * Battle of Cynoscephalae (197 BC), between Rome and Macedon
 * Battle of Cynoscephalae (364 BC), between Thebes and Thessaly

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Talk:Civil affairs

April 2005
There's a lot of information that could go on this page. History, relevance to ongoing operations, and information about sister units in the Marine Corps are all things that could be added. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wooby (talk • contribs) 00:37, April 21, 2005 (UTC)

August 2006
How about efficacy? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.28.150.188 (talk • contribs) 10:44, August 27, 2006 (UTC)

Training Section
Adding a section on Army training. Will need copy-edit, Wikify, etc. Will also add some photos later on if I get a chance MrPrada 20:26, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

United States Marine Corps
Looking for further explaination on info added to the Civil Affairs article under the United States Marine Corps Section "In April 2006, the United States Marine Corps realigned their Military Occupational Specialty structure to permanently create enlisted and officer Civil Affairs MOSs.[1] The Marine Corps had Civil Affairs MOS long before April 2006. So what exactly has changed since April 2006? FieldMarine 19:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Correction on 1st CA unit in Iraq
The 422nd Civil Affairs Bn. was the first unit into Iraq supporting the 3rd Infantry Division crossing the berm that night of the invasion. I was with 3/7 Cavalry that spear headed the invasion and was the first civil affairs team into Iraq and helped liberate Iraq. My battalion also organized and ran the city of Baghdad before any local government or CPA was formed to take over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.55.2.50 (talk) 06:08, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

August 2008
I am a little confused. The Army civil affairs section says that it is a Functional Area, yet on 16 October 2006 it was classified a branch of its own. Could someone with a broader knowledge of this say what the implications of this would be? I think the information of officers not being able to start their career in it may be outdated if it is a branch. Here is the memo designating it a branch.

http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/go0629.pdf  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brownjenkin (talk • contribs) 02:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

re: Correction on 1st CA Unit in Iraq
While that may be true, according to the Department of Defense Adjutant General Website, the meritorious unit citation for the 411th CA BN reads that they were the first reserve CA unit to enter Iraq and the first to return for a second rotation. You would need to cite a source stating the 432nd was the first unit in, that doesn't not violate WP:OR. MrPrada (talk) 06:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 3rd Civil Affairs Group deployed as an entire unit for a second rotation in Iraq in January 2004 and 4th Civil Affairs Group deployed to Iraq for a second rotation in August 2004. I believe 3rd Civil Affairs Group may have the distinction of the first CA unit to deploy to Iraq for a second tour.  FieldMarine (talk) 02:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

The first group to go in was task force 167. This group was a mix of 402d, 422, 411th and 352 BRD. These units where activated on 13 Dec 2002 and where in Kuwait in Jand 2003. The 402nd was mostly attached to the British with a small team attached to the Marines. 422 was one of the frist units into Baghdad while the 402nd worked the south with 486th. 411th was the fist unit to be activated under Operation Iraqi Freedom. The 402nd and 422 where activated under Operation Enduring Freedom becuase the war hadn't started. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.173.162.208 (talk) 18:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Upgrade to B Class
This article requires more refs & citations for upgrade to B class. FieldMarine (talk) 23:51, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

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VFD
On 1 April 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was merge and redirect to The Who. See Votes for deletion/The High Numbers for a record of the discussion. – ABCD 00:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:Pavel Vozenilek/Archive1

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New version of Aesthetic Realism article
This still makes no sense to me. You wrote:

 * Copying article is as easy as it only could be - selecting all text in one window, copy to clipboard, delete all text in another window, paste what is in clipboard.

What window? Like I said, I don't see any place where one can select all the text, including the formatting codes, for the entire article. All I see is Edit links for each individual section, which would require that I tediously copy the text for each individual section one at a time. If you do indeed know how to copy an entire article, please enlighten me, and please be specific.

 * I noticed quite lot of traffic on AR article recetly (I have watch on it). Perhaps you should first make your point on Talk page. Editing of whole article is possible by using "Edit this page" button on the top of the screen. Pavel Vozenilek 03:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This makes no sense at all to me:

 * If no one cares or objects store current version (or link to it) somewhere on talk page, replace the article with your version, and explain the change on Talk page.

If you are suggesting at some point that I replace the live AR article with my own if there are no objections, then I have no idea how to do that given that the live article is locked. Even assuming I could, I do not know how to copy an entire article. I could copy section by section, which is tedious, but I assume there is a better way. Even if there's not, it would be good if I knew for sure that there was not.

Thank you for your help, Michaelbluejay 10:39, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * The article is locked for limited period already unlocked. It is supposed to resolve the issues on Talk page in the meantime. Just put link to your version on Talk page for AR, explain your position and wait for response.

 * Copying article is as easy as it only could be - selecting all text in one window, copy to clipboard, delete all text in another window, paste what is in clipboard. Pavel Vozenilek 17:07, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your help in trying to get this article updated properly. I have edited it to address all of your concerns. Here is a link to the new article. I'm a former librarian and I think I have provided the most relevant information, all properly sourced.

I'm afraid I'm still very unclear about the process for getting this article installed. For example, I don't know how to get it into the Aesthetic Realism section for review by the community. I created the article by following the link you provided, but that doesn't appear to make it a part of the Aesthetic Realism section. I don't see any way to copy the whole article besides tediously copying the text for each section and pasting that into a new comment on the Discussion page for Aesthetic Realism. Is that the way to do it?

Also, for the moment let us assume that the Aesthetic Realism Foundation people will not go in and erase my new article, for they surely will. Let's just assume they don't for a moment. So once the community has reviewed and edited the article, how exactly do I go about getting it installed as the new article?

To answer your question, yes, AR does have a relationship to traditional art. Its founder, Eli Siegel was a poet, and the group operates the Terrain Gallery where it showcases traditional art and music. (I added a link to the Terrain Gallery in the article.) AR considers itself to be a broad philosophy which encompases art, science, philosophy, psychology, etc.

Thank you again for your help. Michaelbluejay 11:02, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * The subpage isn't part of main article. The article uses intendated paragraphs, it looks rather funny when rendered.

 * I would recommend to announce your version on Talk page for the article, wait for response (vandalising your version should lead to block). Wait some time. If no one cares or objects store current version (or link to it) somewhere on talk page, replace the article with your version, and explain the change on Talk page.

 * In case of objections try to reach some neutral point. Last option is to create completely new page like "Criticism of AR" and link it (with short explanation) from AR page. But I think one page is more than enough. Pavel Vozenilek 17:09, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to leave this message but I could not find any other way to message you on this system. I requested that the "Aesthetic realism" article be locked and you did lock it, but unfortunately locked it to a vandalized version. The members of this group kept excising my addition that many former members consider it to be a cult, and the link to my site about it,. I think it's important to tell both sides of the story, of course. I've never removed any of their ridiculous gushing praise about their philosophy and their leader, I've just added my own very short comment. But they routinely go in there and delete it, since they want no public criticism. Actually, unless this changes, they don't have to do so any more, because their sabatoged version is now locked into place. I hope you will be able to add the other side back in. I added it to the External Links section but I expect they'll take that out any minute, if they haven't already. Oh, my username is MichaelBluejay. You can contact me directly at AR(at)michaelbluejay.com if you need to. Thank you very much for your help.

 * It was not locked by me, I do not have such rights (but maybe I asked admins to lock it). I remember I reverted someone who vandalised the page with text "Aesthetic realism is a cult", giving any futher explanation. I know nothing about the topic, I only do clean up after vandalism.

 * If you can contribute, please formulate it first on the Talk page, trying to reach some consensus (just one link or shout is almost guaranteed to get reverted). Usual practice is to have section like "Criticism of ...". Quite often this process works.

 * If that fails the article may be put under request for coordination (but this is slow, bureaucratic process with long waiting lines). Common procedure is described in ,

 * I also noted that the narrative quality of the article isn't the highest. You may rewrite it and put your version on e.g. Talk:Aesthetic_Realism/Version_from_michaelbluejay or on your Talk page. This version may serve as starting point for possible disputes.

I am distressed that you characterize my contribution as "vandalism". I'm the one trying to protect the integrity of the article, not the other way around. I simply added the comment to the article, "Many former students consider the group promoting its study to be a cult," with a link to the Aesthetic Realism is a Cult website. I didn't elaborate because, as a critic of the Aesthetic Realism group, I wanted to be fair and didn't want to be seen as using the Wikipedia article as a platform for me to criticize the group. I thought adding just one sentence and pointing readers to a dissenting opinion was adding to the scope of the article. But apparently that's considered vandalism.

In my mind, the real vandalism is that the Aesthetic Realism people routinely excise any reference to criticism from the article, or mention of the fact that their founder and leader killed himself. And now that the article is locked to that state all that remains is their obviously biased cheerleading for their cause.

In any event, I have taken your advice and have written a new article from scratch. I have taken pains to make it as objective as I can, and to produce ample sources for my claims. I extensively quoted Aesthetic Realists themselves, including from their own websites.

What is the next step in submitting this article for review?

Thank you very much for your help, Michaelbluejay 06:25, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Maybe I was too quick in "removing vandalism", I do that routinely and may overshoot. I somehow vaguely remember there were fights over article name months ago and this adds to one's suspicions. I apologize if I was too hasty.

 * (Question: is there any relation between Aesthetic Realism and traditional art? It was the first association I got from article name.)

 * I looked on your version (please beware I know nothing about the topic and am fairly uninterested about it) and it looks clean and readable. I would recommend to add facts like estimate how many people "studied" or "followed" it, whether and how did it evolved, ISBNs and as many references as possible, especially for people quotes (highly opinioned un-attributed quotes w/o atribution do not belong to encyclopedy, IMO).

 * An external link may have few words what it is about. I noticed that the link(s) to http://perey-anthropology.net/ are missing. If they are of relation with the topic they should be listed. The links may be divided into two subsections - supporters and those opposing (this quite worked in Turko-Kurdish wars).

 * Wikipedia articles/talks/wars should not serve as reference. Especially referring to edits wars on Wikipedia brings no useful information.

 * The way how to deal with disputes is described here. If consesus gets reached on your article (or its updated version) then it should overwrite current article. If not then you need to suffer the ordeal in trying to present neutral view, trying to reach common point before some kind of arbitration is taken. Wikipedia is not well prepared to deal with conflicting views - its up to people to settle somehow and this sometimes doesn't happen, sometimes it takes long time. Pavel Vozenilek 15:56, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Cribbswh
Cribbswh Dear Pavel, The sites that I listed were relevent to the topics and are not commercial. They all contain valuable, pertinent data for the state or topic. I apologize for misunderstanding the rules. Sincerely, cribbswh
 * You might be interested in participating in a discussion at Talk:New York where we are debating the merits of the links removed and then put back by Cribbswh. Thanks.--BaronLarf 15:35, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)

Image:Rolodex.jpg
Is this image really public domain? It doesn't look like a photo you took, and if you found it on the internet it's copyrighted unless explicitly released into the public domain. Andre ( talk )A| 00:54, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

sparklelight1
Greetings to you, I am keeping updated regarding one of my article up for deleting. I also see you did vote for deletion... If I may asked what is it really wrong with the article? and if there is something you don't understand about my article am sure you can always contact me. I will see how to work with your program in order where people can discuss. Unfortunately my time is limited on this realm and keep moving on and if there is further problems I will take down all my articles as this is very spiritual and deep level of consciousness and I am not up to dabates where the unseen is hard for mankind eyes to see in these changing times.

Thanks sparkle*

Images

 * Please stop marking images as public domain when they clearly are not. Such behaviour in considered vandalism. - SimonP 05:41, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Proposal to expand CSD
Zdravím, rád bych se vás zeptal na důvody pro hlasování pro návrh III a proti návrhu XI. Samozřejmě důvody hlasování vysvětlovat nemusíte, jen mě to zaujalo jako dost zvláštní kombinace hlasů. --Wikimol 23:00, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Proto ze III je silnejsi (coz asi melo implikovat XI).

 * Ano, ale protoze je silnejsi, je mensi sance ze projde. Hlasovani funguje tak, ze hlas pro XI v zadnem pripade nezmensi sance prijeti III. Ale pokud III neprojde, je XI sance prijmout alespon neco. --Wikimol 09:40, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Vizo
You marked Vizo for speedy deletion. It doesn't seem to fall under any of the criteria for speedy deletion; could you please explain? --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 21:35, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Mistaken tag, I should had used or so. But the article seems bogus to me anyway. Pavel Vozenilek 21:44, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * It might, but which of the criteria does it meet? Seems a VFD would be more appropriate. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 22:37, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * VFD, yes - being unverifiable. I tried now to find appropriate tag but failed. If you know, please mark the article. Pavel Vozenilek 22:52, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

FYI: This IP 128.187.0.164 is a public computer

HAOS.MULTIMEDIA
Hi, you marked HAOS.MULTIMEDIA as a CSD. I am afraid it doesn't currently fall under any of the reasons there. Incidentally, there is currently a poll going on about expanding CSD. For the moment, articles like this fall under WP:VfD. If you follow the procedure at the bottom of that page, you can't go far wrong. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. Thanks - Smoddy | Talk 19:17, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Toilet paper holder article
I've got it on a user subpage, and of course earlier versions are in the History of the redirect, too. Why do you ask?--Bishonen | Talk 20:28, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

About Vargas LLosa
Pavel, I think you should read UK's newspaper "The Guardian" to see a more extensive biography of Mario Vargas LLosa, since they have more details about his life than wikipedia does, including the fact that he speaks Spanish, French and English (accented of course). Maybe you can check it out: http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/generalfiction/story/0,6000,668155,00.html
 * I reverted it because it was inconsistent with the whole sentence. Since he lived in France it may not be such big news at all but YMMV. Pavel Vozenilek 01:37, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Vargas LLosa
Well, maybe you could have included such facts in another sentence to make the article better. As a Peruvian, I think his readers might be interested in such details of his life.

What's wrong with Salwar Kameez?
You put a cleanup notice on salwar kameez. Why? I wrote the current version, and I don't see what's wrong with it. It could perhaps use some more wikifying, but otherwise ... Now I may have missed something -- I'm not a goddess of good prose -- but I'd sure like to know if I have. Zora 01:22, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Using uppercase or lowercase letters in the name is inconsistent. Some links can pro probably fixed. The text should be more structured to sections. Mostly minor edits. Pavel Vozenilek 01:25, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Instead of expecting other people to read your mind, and see the same faults that you do, how about fixing the faults instead of just slapping a cleanup notice on the article? I understand the cleanup notice in cases where the article is incoherent, but I don't think Salwar kameez is all that garbled. Nor is it so long that a cleanup would take more than ten minutes or so. Zora 01:31, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Well, its not topic I understand - I just saw few issues. Asking for cleanup is IMHO better than to make amateur mistakes. You may put the cleanup notice down any moment. Pavel Vozenilek 01:41, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

removed your speedy tag from Hamidian massacres
You marked it a speedy delete, but the reason you gave: "no sources, likely just copyright violation" is not a valid speedy criteria. Please read Criteria for speedy deletion. Shanes 02:28, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Salwar kameez again
I just realized that someone created the article with the title Salwar Kameez, which I gather is not the preferred Wikipedia style. It should be Salwar kameez. Does it require an admin to change the title? Zora 05:56, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * No. You may move it to "Salwar kameez" easily. There's button on top, "Move". It requires new name. All links and talk page stay the same. Pavel Vozenilek 13:34, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

202.156.2.170
Pavel - many thanks for actions to date on this. I have spent a huge amount of time trying to get some consistency in airline articles. 202 ignores all attempts at consistency and is intent on adding in aircraft fleet details (instead of possible external links) and Flight numbers (instead of lists of routes or destinations), both of which are very difficult to keep up to date. Other edits are more benign but add little value. The remarks on Jetstar Asia Airways are indeed inappropriate. In Valuair, 202 replaced some of my edits with worse (inconsistent) content. I believe this in total amounts to vandalism, although I am unclear what can be done about it. Any actions or advice would be welcome. Ardfern 00:26, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * I asked for ban on . You may add comment, hopefully some admin will wake up and act. Pavel Vozenilek 00:30, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Pavel - coincidentally I have just been attacked by a vandal inserting a van picture over all my user talk. Could you advise how I get rid of this and revert to the previous entries. Thanks for any help. Ardfern 14:43, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Vicksburg
I don't think that sentence about July 4th was meant to be vandalism. Hal Jespersen 21:44, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Looks so. I reverted it back. Either I considered author as vandal then or made mistake. Apologies to both. Pavel Vozenilek 21:54, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for you support in my request for adminship. Your trust in me will not be disappointed. Now, I'm off to put these new powers to good use! -- Scott eiπ  02:39, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your support on WP:RFA. – ABCD 02:39, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank You!
Hi Pavel,

I would like to thank you for your vote of support and confidence for my adminship, it has been much appreciated. If you need anything in future that requires my attention, please do not hesitate to contact me. :)

- Cheers, Mailer Diablo 18:31, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Labyrinth
Dear Pavel.

You removed the link The Traditional Catholic View and Use of Labyrinths from the Labyrinth page, which may or may not be appropriate; I don't know. I have only looked briefly at the linked page.

However, in your edit summary, you describe it as a "spam link". That seems inappropriate to me; at worst, it's a link to a POV page. Would you like to reconsider the case? Niels Ø 20:49, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

 * I reverted my revert. It was too fast reaction from my side. Several links to this website (different pages) were added in the past and were later removed as spam. The user who added this link is vandal (or sits on the same IP as a vandal). Pavel Vozenilek 21:17, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

KOMBA
Hi there - you just reverted "vandalism" at user talk:KOMBA. Could you please explain why? violet/riga (t) 23:37, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Erased text from other user. This could make problems in possible banning of vandal. Pavel Vozenilek 23:40, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm not quite with you there. It was me that placed the warnings on there and they should serve of proof of him being warned to stop the vandalism.  If he returns and continues vandalising other admins will be able to see that he has done it before and thus lengthen the ban if it were required. violet/riga (t) 23:42, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * You are right Pavel Vozenilek 23:43, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

My adminship
Hi Pavel, Thank you so much for your support and kind words in my nomination. I look forward to helping out. -  BanyanTree 03:49, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

asked for temporary ban on you
For editing articles?!? I don't broke any wikipedia rules.--Schlesier 19:48, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * You are new and made dozens of controversial edits within hours. That smells of someone with axe to grind.

You are (1) making changes w/o explanation or giving reference, (2) re-starting polls that took years to resolve.

 * I would recommend to cool down and argue your changes first. That's one usual practice here, another is to provide as much reference and sources as possible to keep Wiki encyclopedic. Pavel Vozenilek 19:54, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I attributed point (2) to you by mistake. My appology. Pavel Vozenilek 20:09, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You mistook me for someone else
Hi Pavel, you sent me a message yesterday regarding my edits on the Spain page. You got your information backwards: I went on to that page to remove the references to the word "vagina" from the page, not add them on. I was just as disgusted that someone would make those changes as you were. Heath Johnson 16:55, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry for the mistake. It could be I mistook left and right side or so. Pavel Vozenilek 17:45, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for supporting my adminship — I vow to use my super powers for good not evil. Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 09:24, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

William Gibson
Sorry for the mistake. I've read "Gibson was born in Conway, South Carolina, USA. In 1968", forgetting the point at the end of the sentence. So the whole trouble begun. :D Corposemorgaos 02:26, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Thank you for the vote at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Henrygb2. It has made my week. --Henrygb 01:58, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'd also like to thank you for your support of my nomination. I will try and be more diligent about edit summaries--nixie 02:33, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

another thanks
for supporting my RFA this week. Also, thank you for your edits to Kryštof Harant z Polžic a Bezdružic; really I'm impressed anyone else knew about this guy; he's pretty interesting (but really shouldn't have bombarded the imperial palace with the emperor inside! bad move!)  Happy editing, Antandrus 03:10, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * The name is rather know in Czech Republic, though not likely for being musician. His canoneer activity had probably made a little difference since the Emperor was on his way to exterminate all his opponents, no matter what. Pavel Vozenilek 03:17, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Time Cube
Pavel, I see you have reverted several Time Cube edits at the Greenwich Mean Time article. I rv'd the same edits and 211.28.*.* keeps putting them back. Any suggestions/help? Dave C. 03:08, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * One may complain on and hope that somebody notices. Pavel Vozenilek 03:16, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I see you rv'd it already.  I think 211.28.*.* is an anonymous proxy in Australia (although it may be a dial-up ISP).  Dave C. 03:27, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Good afternoon, Mr Pavel Vozenilek. I noticed that you have been conspiring with Dave Cohoe and others to suppress the Truth of Time Cube. You made the comment "If the Time Cube theory gets acknowledged by scientific community then it should get mentioned here"; while the Academic pedants in their ivory towers tend not to acknowledge this Ineffable Truth Cube, it is nonetheless an extremely famous theory, known among millions of internet users.
 * Did you know that just two days ago, Dr Gene Ray participated in a large event in which he lectured and debated Time Cube with students at Georgia Tech? Why do you suppose they would do that if Time Cube is an unknown and unrespected theory? Clearly it is encyclopaedic, and deserves inclusion in Greenwich Mean Time. Please cease your pedantic vandalism of the article, and allow Cubic Truth to be known.

 * Well, Wikipedia is website that promotes views of this "academic pedantry", by definition. You are absolutely free to create your own variant Wikipedia and put your opinions here. For example I noticed Time Cube is covered on uncyclopedia already. You may have better luck there. Pavel Vozenilek 15:55, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is a website that promotes a Neutral Point of View, by definition. That means it's perfectly justified for the GMT article to contain a short paragraph about criticisms of the concept (the opposing point of view), and a brief reference to a theory considered by GMT critics to be superior.
 * I'm not suggesting we replace the whole article with a statement that GMT is false and Time Cube is true; I'm merely suggesting we should allow a short paragraph that will convey to the reader a sense of NPOV. Therefore, I again request that you cease your POV vandalism and allow NPOV in the article.

 * I do not agree here - this is not politics but science. And this is (should) based on facts/verifiable theories. And unless something is proven (or at least supported by some reputable authorities) it is not fit for Wikipedia. I am engineer and trying to find out what works and what not is what I do all the time. Pavel Vozenilek 03:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * They are proven -- see Time Cube and Cubic Awareness Online for proof, as well as discussions on Talk:Time Cube and Talk:Gene Ray. And when you stipulate "supported by some reputable authorities", it IS in fact politics -- an expression of support of Academic institutions of Word-pedantry. Again, you need to allow NPOV in the GMT article.

Administratorship
Thanks for your comments on Requests for adminship/Wilfried Derksen. Your comment made me aware of the necesity of filling in the Edit Summary line in case of non minor edits. It made ma also ware of careful labeling an edit as minor or non minor. I will change my way of editing pages by clearly selecting minor and non minor edits and to fill in an edit summary in the last case. With this comment I would like to ask you to reconsider your vote. Wilfried Derksen = Electionworld 16:27, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for nominating and supporting me for adminship, it was an experience to get a glimpse of how "it should be no big deal" policy has been twisted around. I appreciate that I had a 21/8 support on this even though it wasn't enough to suffice the minority rule system on Wikipedia. I am slightly bothered though that the vote was closed 12 hours too early but it probably doesn't matter. Cheers! --Bjarki 13:42, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Western Betrayal
Would you have a minute to look at Western Betrayal and see if it could be improved ? Wojsyl 20:00, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for supporting my RfA! I shall be more conscientious about leaving talk page messages, and work at putting the shiny new buttons to good use. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 02:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Administratorship?
Would you like to become admin? I think you fit the criteria (thanks _a lot_ for your vfd work). I can nominate you on. Pavel Vozenilek 00:24, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the offer but I have no desire to be an admin. Megan1967 05:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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