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I removed Springfield and Middletown from the list of largest cities, because according to the 2000 Census, they are respectively the 11th and 22nd largest jurisdictions in the State. - EurekaLott 21:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Maybe, then, we'd want to replace the section marked "Townships and villages" with one for smaller cities such as Springfield (and perhaps Middletown as well). Villages are, without a current exception to my recollection, jurisdictions with less than 5,000 people, and the most populous of Ohio's townships has a population of less than 45,000 (Anderson Township in Hamilton County has a population of 43,857). -- SwissCelt 23:05, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

 * By comparison, Springfield (pop. 64,132, 2002 est.) has a greater population, as do 22 other cities in Ohio. I'm thinking of classifying Ohio's cities with greater than 50,000 people (but not included in the seven "largest cities") in a section marked "smaller cities"; this would include both Springfield and Middletown.  Unfortunately, it would not include Cleveland Heights, Cuyahoga Falls, Warren, and Newark, each of which are larger (more populous) than Ohio's largest township, but have less than 50,000 people in each. -- SwissCelt 23:05, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Added Parma
...to the "Largest cities" section. Technically, Parma is more populous now than Youngstown. -- SwissCelt 13:00, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Removing Parma and Youngstown
I think it would be best if we only list the top five largest cities after Columbus. These would be Cleveland, Cincinnati, Toledo, Akron, and Dayton. When we begin listing suburbs such as Parma, then I think we're getting away from the point of listing the largest cities. Anything smaller than Dayton, in my opinion, should not be listed. -- Clevelander 22:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Perhaps we should therefore take a hint from Template:California and Template:Pennsylvania, and list metropolitan areas instead? There's no reason why a state of this size should list only six cities, especially when doing so effectively ignores the half million people in the Youngstown-Warren metropolitan area. -- SwissCelt 14:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

 * It's probably misleading to have a section called "metropolitan areas" with links to articles about municipalities. I like your earlier smaller cities idea better, though the criteria will have to be strictly enforced to prevent listcruft. IMO, the section that needs more attention is the "regions" one. It mostly includes links to articles about the state's physical geography, not its human geography, and articles like Miami Valley have been omitted. - EurekaLott 14:48, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

 * This is the format used by other state templates, particularly larger ones where listing every significant city would be impractical. Over time, the municipalities can be replaced by articles on the metro areas (once those articles are created, of course).  However, leaving it the way it is certainly is not fine!  We've been steadily reducing the number of municipalities on the template, to the point that, of the state templates, only Template:Hawaii and Template:West Virginia now have fewer cities listed. (Template:South Carolina lists no cities whatsoever.)  This is unconscionable, especially for the 7th largest (by population) state in the nation.  The average reader will think that nearly everyone in the state lives in the "3 C's", which belies a rather intense controversy in the state over state funding and other issues associated with "the Other Ohio". -- SwissCelt 18:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

U.S. state templates
WikiProject U.S. states/state templates lists and displays all 50 U.S. state (and additional other) templates. It potentially can be used for ideas and standardization. //MrD9 07:19, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Harmonizing Template:Ohio
Harmonizing of this template has been completed. 00:38 PST, 23 March, 2006, User:BigBang11 (UTC)

Cities vs. Metropolitan areas
Clevelander makes a good point on my talk page: "It seems redundant to list [metropolitan areas] when the areas of Greater Cincinnati and Greater Cleveland are listed above [in the Regions section]." Me, I think the Regions section was more intended for historical and/or geographical regions, but I think I've done enough unilateral editing to this template for now. (Perhaps more than enough, to be self-honest.) We really need to determine what sections should be in this template, and by what criteria we list those sections.

For example, counties seems an obvious one; but then, there is precedent for including only a link to the list of counties (see Template:Texas). My thought in using metro areas is that this is verifiable; the US Census officially designates only a handful of places in Ohio as metro areas, thus saving us the problem of listcruft to which EurekaLott refers. We need concise criteria for regions, if indeed we decide to include them. Whatever we decide, it should fit the overall schematic of the other state templates, yet be appropriate for a state such as Ohio. Thoughts? -- SwissCelt 19:15, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Before we discuss what sections ought to stay and go, I believe that the solution to the Ohio template cities vs. metropolitan area dilemma could be solved with a simple vote. Personally, Iliked the way this template was setup earlier, listing the state's six largest cities (two of them, Akron and Toldeo are part of the "other Ohio").  I wouldn't say that we've been steadily reducing the number of municipalities just because Parma (a suburb of Cleveland) and Youngstown were removed the list.  Dayton is the smallest of the six largest cities in Ohio, with a population of 166,179, less than Parma's 85,655 (a number that is continually decreasing). -- Clevelander 19:35, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually, I like EurekaLott's solution. It seems to be the most agreeable. -- Clevelander 19:49, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

 * The MSA definitions do provide a clear divider, and the current setup could work, I think. I just moved things around a little bit, to see if it would work - feel free to change it again if you think it doesn't. I think we should be able to reach consensus on this, and avoid having to take a vote. By the way, does anybody else think we could do without the county name origins page in the template? - EurekaLott 19:51, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree. It looks a bit out of place. I think that having an article on county names isn't necessary because each origin is already mentioned on each individual county page. -- Clevelander 19:57, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Yeah, the county name origins link is a bit over the top. The List of Ohio county name etymologies is a great article, but for the purposes of a state template it seems redundant to include both this list and the List of counties in Ohio.  Actually, I don't see why those two lists can't be merged, but that's fodder for another discussion on another talk page. -- SwissCelt 20:18, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Okay. It's gone. - EurekaLott 20:22, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Standardization of state templates
There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding standardization of state templates (primarily regarding layout and styling) at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. states/state templates. An effort was made earlier this year to standardize Canadian province templates (which mostly succeeded). Lovelac7 and I have already begun standardizing all state templates. If you have any concerns, they should be directed toward the discussion page for state template standardization. Thanks! — Webdinger BLAH 22:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Added Euclid
I added Euclid to the list of Largest cities because Euclid has a population over 50,000. All cities in Ohio with a population over 50,000 are included in Template:Ohio.-- Ohioan 09:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Ohio cities with a population of 50,000 or more must be included in Template:Ohio
I removed Euclid from the list of largest cities in Ohio because its population fell below 50,000 at the 2006 census update. Its population as of 2006 is 48,717.--OHWiki 13:22, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Add Link To Ohio Portal
Could someone add a link to Ohio's Portal in the template?

Portal:Ohio Stepshep (talk) 16:11, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Would this be okay? User:Stepshep/Ohio Box Stepshep (talk) 16:19, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Large city: Youngstown. Metro: Youngstown-WARREN
The city of Youngstown is one of the larger cities in Ohio. Its inclusion on the list of largest cities is good.

However, the metro it is part of cannot be, and locally is almost never, referred to as simply "Youngstown." The metropolitan area includes four counties, one in Pennsylvania, and covers a large area. 13 miles from Youngstown is the city of Warren, the second largest city in the area, with about 50,000 residents to Youngstown's about 75,000. The people from Warren and its surrounding communities feel little connection to the "Youngstown" label. If the entire metro is ever being discussed, it is just about always referred to as "Youngstown-Warren" if not "The Mahoning Valley" which is even better encompassing.

It's like Minneapolis-St. Paul. Maybe sometimes in extreme shorthand, "Youngstown" is acceptable just as "Minneapolis" is, but on lists and whatnot, both sister cities must be included.

Let's make the distinction, change the metro on the large metro list to "Youngstown-Warren," and not change it back. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.107.239.81 (talk) 17:28, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

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Biblical inspiration

Biblical inspiration is the doctrine in Christian theology that the human writers and canonizers of the Bible were led by God with the result that their writings may be designated in some sense the word of God. This belief is traditionally associated with concepts of the biblical infallibility and the internal consistency of the Bible.

Theopneustos
At 2 Tim 3:16 (NRSV), it is written: "All scripture is inspired by God [theopneustos] and is useful for teaching".

When Jerome translated the Greek text of the Bible into the language of the Vulgate, he translated the Greek theopneustos (θεόπνευστος ) of 2 Timothy 3:16 as divinitus inspirata ("divinely breathed into").

Some modern English translations opt for "God-breathed" (NIV) or "breathed out by God" (ESV). The -tos ending in the Greek theopneustos also designates a passive construct whereby the subject God is breathing out the object (scripture).

Theologian C. H. Dodd suggests that it is "probably to be rendered" as: "Every inspired Scripture is also useful".

Daniel B. Wallace states that numerous scholars believe that the proper translation should be: "Every inspired scripture is also profitable". Wallace, however, criticises this translation; he proposes the translation "every scripture is inspired and profitable".

Evangelical viewpoint
Evangelicals view the Bible as superintended by the Holy Spirit, preserving the writers' works from error without eliminating their specific concerns, situation, or style. This divine involvement, they say, allowed the biblical writers to communicate without corrupting God's own message both to the immediate recipients of the writings and to those who would come after. Some Evangelicals have labelled the conservative or traditional view as "verbal, plenary inspiration of the original manuscripts", by which they mean that each word (not just the overarching ideas or concepts) was meaningfully chosen under the superintendence of God.

Evangelicals acknowledge the existence of textual variations between biblical accounts of apparently identical events and speeches. They see these as complementary, not contradictory, and explain them as the differing viewpoints of different writers. For instance, the Gospel of Matthew was intended to communicate the Gospel to Jews, the Gospel of Luke to Greeks, and the Gospel of Mark to Romans. Evangelical apologists such as John W. Haley in his book Alleged Discrepancies in the Bible and Norman Geisler in When Critics Ask have proposed answers to hundreds of claimed contradictions. Some discrepancies are accounted for by changes from the master manuscripts (which are alleged to contain very nearly the original text and) that these alterations were introduced as copies were made (maybe of copies themselves), either deliberately or accidentally.

Three basic approaches to inspiration are often described when the evangelical approach to scripture is discussed:
 * Verbal plenary inspiration: This view gives a greater role to the human writers of the Bible while maintaining a belief that God preserved the integrity of the words of the Bible. The effect of inspiration was to move the writers so as to produce the words God wanted. In this view the human writers' "individual backgrounds, personal traits, and literary styles were authentically theirs, but had been providentially prepared by God for use as his instrument in producing Scripture". However, the theory nuances that "God so mysteriously superintended the process that every word written was also the exact word he wanted to be written—free from all error".
 * Verbal dictation theory: The dictation theory claims that God dictated the books of the Bible word by word, suggesting the writers were no more than tools used to communicate God's precisely intended message.
 * Dynamic inspiration: The thoughts contained in the Bible are inspired, but the words used were left to the individual writers. This suggests the underlying message of the Scriptures are inspired, while the exact wording is dynamic.
 * Partial inspiration: the Bible is infallible in matters of faith and practice/morals, yet it could have errors in history or science (e.g. the Big Bang could be true, and the Genesis creation account is more allegorical than historical).
 * Intuition theory: The authors of the Scriptures were merely wise men, so the Bible is inspired by human insight.

Theories seeing only parts of the Bible as inspired ("partial inspiration") meet with insistent emphasis on plenary inspiration on the part of its proponents.

Criticism
The New American Commentary by T.D. Lea and H.P. Griffen says "[n]o respected Evangelicals maintain that God dictated the words of Scripture". By this, Lea & Griffen were referring to the entirety of the Scriptures, i.e. every single word in the Bible. Lea & Griffen meant that they advocated verbal plenary inspiration as fact, instead of the verbal dictation theory.

The Evangelical position was criticized as being circular by Catholic Answers. They claimed that the Bible can only be used to prove doctrines of biblical inspiration if the doctrine is assumed to begin with. Some defenders of the evangelical doctrine such as B. B. Warfield and Charles Hodge, however, moved away from a circular argument and "committed themselves to the legitimacy of external verification" to inductively prove the doctrine, though they placed some restrictions on the evidences that could be considered.

Lutheran and Reformed viewpoint
The Apology of the Augsburg Confession identifies Holy Scripture with the Word of God and calls the Holy Spirit the author of the Bible.

According to Frederic Farrar, Martin Luther did not understand inspiration to mean that the scriptures were dictated in a purely mechanical manner. Instead, Luther "held that they were not dictated by the Holy Spirit, but that His illumination produced in the minds of their writers the knowledge of salvation, so that divine truth had been expressed in human form, and the knowledge of God had become a personal possession of man. The actual writing was a human not a supernatural act". John Calvin also rejected the verbal dictation theory.

Luther asserted that "He [the pious Christian] should not doubt that however simple they [the Scriptures] may seem, these are the very words, deeds, judgments, and history of the high majesty and wisdom of God; for this is the Scripture which makes fools out of all the wise".

The doctrine of sola scriptura was one of the central teachings during the Protestant Reformation. It teaches that the Bible is the final authority for moral, spiritual, and for some, civil matters. As Luther said, "The true rule is this: God's Word shall establish articles of faith, and no one else, not even an angel can do so".

Catholic viewpoint

The Catechism of the Catholic Church alleges that the Bible's human writers were "consigned to writing whatever he wanted written, and no more". The Catechism also claims that the Bible "without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures". The Catholic Church holds the Bible as inspired by God, but that it does not view God as the direct author of the Bible, in the sense that he does not put a 'ready-made' book in the mind of the inspired person.

Pope Benedict XVI gave the following explanation in 2007: The Scripture emerged from within the heart of a living subject — the pilgrim people of God — and lives within this same subject. [...] [T]he individual author or group of authors [...] are not autonomous [...] they form part of [...] the "people of God," [...] the deeper "author" of the Scriptures. [...] [L]ikewise, this people [...] knows that it is led, and spoken to, by God himself, who — through men and their humanity — is at the deepest level the one speaking.

The Catholic view of biblical inspiration stems from the belief in the historical authenticity of the foundation of an infallible Church, and Jesus' grant of teaching authority to that church through his Apostles. Because the Catholic Church designated the biblical canon through its tradition, its authority to identify the inspired books is accepted, rather than any self-contained or inherent claims of the Scriptures themselves.

Liberal Christian viewpoint
The typical view within Liberal Christianity and Progressive Christianity rejects the idea that the Bible is divinely inspired. Some advocates of higher criticism who espouse this view even go so far as to regard the Bible as purely a product of human invention. However, most form critics, such as Rudolf Bultmann (1884–1976) and Walter Brueggemann (1933– ), still regard the Bible as a sacred text, just not a text that communicates the unaltered word of God.

Neo-orthodox viewpoint
Emil Brunner (1889–1966) was one of the primary advocates of Neo-orthodoxy. He wrote: "[T]he Christian Church believes the Bible to be the Word of God", and that "Christian faith is Bible faith". He also wrote: "Yes, God has made known the secret of His will through the Prophets and Apostles in the Holy Scriptures". Brunner rhetorically asked, "Is the whole Bible God's Word then?"; Brunner answered, "Yes, insofar as it speaks of that which is 'here' in Christ". Brunner's illustration, relying on the name of the label His Master's Voice, was: "If you buy a phonograph record you are told that you will hear the Master Caruso. Is that true? Of course! But really his voice? Certainly! And yet—there are some noises made by the machine which are not the Master's voice". Brunner adds: "[T]he Bible[...] makes the real Master's voice audible,—really his voice, his words, what he wants to say". Brunner ultimately concludes: "Only a fool listens to the incidental noises when he might listen to his Master's voice!".

Other viewpoints
A 2011 Gallup survey reports, "A 49% plurality of Americans say the Bible is the inspired word of God but that it should not be taken literally, consistently the most common view in Gallup's nearly 40-year history of this question".

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User talk:Burgundavia/archive5

 Welcome to Air Burgundavia Previous Flights:1,2,3,4

Incheon Airport Pictures
Hello, Yes i did take the pictures myself. All the other pictures i've uploaded and added to airport pages were taken by me too. I added the PD tag to all the images. I hope that clears up any copyright or source issues.

Thanks. sikander 05:16, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)

Airline tickets
Since you seem to be interested in the airline stuff, here is a request for help.

I started to put together the how you get a ticket to fly and the associated process. Some of it uses generic terms like a paper ticket and e-ticket.

Any thoughts on how to arrange this so that it is not spread out and is in a logical place? What pages should be created and what should they be named? This is even more confusing these days since you need a boarding pass and not a ticket to get through security at US airports. Vegaswikian 21:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

RE:Airport Infobox template
Hey Burgundavia (I like that name). I realise that the airport infobox isn't yet ready for universal implementation, but I thought it a worthwhile edition to the major Australian airports. I had no intention of adding it to all Australian airports, for the time being at least. It was hard enough to find the stats for the major aiports, let alone attempting the minors. For the templates you've created, great work! I did a little bit of re-arranging for the Australian airports - "Closest Town"/"Distance from" changed to city and IATA/ICAO codes moved lower. I've now created Template:Infobox Australian Airport, as Clarkk mentioned, based on that hybrid infobox, but have yet to implement it.

Now, I'm the first to admit that I know next to nothing about template syntax. I work around this by using various exemplars. But having two separate templates, one for stats and one for runways, sounds like an awful complication. And I don't see how this will change the problem of some airports having more runways then others - though I am perhaps blinded by my inexperience. However, this idea does make sense for smaller airports, where it might be very hard to get information on either. Nevertheless, I think there should be one infobox in, say, four different versions: v1 2 runways; v2 3 runways; v3 4 runways; and, v4 5 runways. This is what I may do with Template:Infobox Australian Airport, though only two versions would be required. Thoughts?--Cyberjunkie 03:01, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Could this not then be done in a single infobox?--Cyberjunkie 03:21, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It sounds good, but still, functionability/user-friendliness is a concern. So your planning to make a test template? If so, will it be in the style already used. I'd like to see the changes I made to the Australian infobox carry through.--Cyberjunkie 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * From a user, it is not going to look different, it is just going to be more flexible. Burgundavia 03:48, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)

The statistics should remain attached to the Infobox in my opinion. As for the airport weblink, I'm not particularly fussed either way. I made that addition to the infobox because it seemed a nifty feature, and one included in some other infoboxes I've worked on. I've seen the progress you've made, and all seems well. Although, once your more prepared, the WikiProject Airport infobox page may need to be better organised and more instructive. Also, I think that changing the "Closest town"/"City" to "Serves" is a very good compromise. I might suggest, however, you change "Distance from town" to "Distance from CBD".--Cyberjunkie 08:19, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

So you're saying that there will be a separate table for the statistics? I can't find anything on the WikiProject Airport pages that sets out any sort of standard layout. If that is what you meant, I'd advise against it. Generally, the airport articles are not large enough to warrant the use of more than one table. The infobox seems sufficient. The stats currently comprise only two facts anyways. Of course, if you mean that the stats are going to be included within the written article, that is appropriate. With regards to the external link, as I've said, I don't care if it is removed. I was just explaining why I included it in the first place. The only thing that I am disagreeing with you on, is the "Distance from" section. Town is erroneous terminology. CBD is universally understood, though admittedly in more common usage in the Commonwealth countries. As for it being too technical, I think that is negligible, especially within an infobox citing ICAO/IATA. CBD is the correct term, and one that is applicable to all airports. Anyone who requires clarification can follow the link (the point of a wiki) and see its near-equivalent 'downtown'.--Cyberjunkie 03:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Righto
Righto! Lost of lost titles, perhaps? Fire Star 04:47, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Re: Nagoya Airport
Currently Aichi Prefecture owns the civil part of the airport. Centrair is owned by a for-profit company. "Prefectural" prefix can be used to distinguish it from Centrair and is for probably public relation and promotion by the prefectural government. It will not likely to appear in English document. NKM's official name by the national government Ministry of Land. Infrastructure and Transport is "Nagoya Airport" (名古屋飛行場 Nagoya Hikōjō). I suggest that the latter better denotes current status. Hikojo often translates aerodrome or airfield. I will update following this. Soredewa 05:15, 2005 Apr 16 (UTC)

Re: Paine Field
thanks! it took me about a year to realize that my home airport wasn't in the wikipedia, so i fixed it. i basically just edit/create aircraft articles, so i didn't know what the various templates were. thanks for cleaning it up. -eric 17:02, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)

Quebec
If you are interested in more Quebec-related collaboration, there is a Quebec wikipedians notice board and a Quebec collaboration of the week. Circeus 19:19, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)

Nato ranks
Vanished? :) --Cool Cat My Talk 05:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Airport types
Thanks for the comment on my talk page. I think I understand the distinctions you want to make. For international vs. domestic, the real concern is whether there are customs/immigration services available. If so, the airport is an airport of entry (AoE). GA vs. commercial is tricky, because a lot of general aviation is commercial: think of flight training, charter and air taxi, crop dusting, pipeline inspection, air ambulance, aerial surveying, traffic reporting, aerial photography, etc. etc. The real question, I think, is whether an airport has scheduled passenger service or not. So here's my suggestion:

 * Type: (public|private|military)
 * Airport of entry? (yes|no)
 * Scheduled passenger service? (yes|no)

Here's how the four major New York City airports would shake out ...

JFK
 * Type: public
 * Airport of entry? yes
 * Scheduled passenger service? yes

La Guardia
 * Type: public
 * Airport of entry? no
 * Scheduled passenger service? yes

Newark
 * Type: public
 * Airport of entry? yes
 * Scheduled passenger service? yes

Teterboro
 * Type: public
 * Airport of entry? yes
 * Scheduled passenger service? no

-- David 11:55, 2005 Apr 18 (UTC)

Airports of New York City
I'm not sure it's a good idea to include Airports of New York City as a subcategory of Airports of New York, because Airports of New York refers to New York state, while Airports of New York City covers airports in New York State, New Jersey, and potentially Connecticut (though there are not currently any in the part of Connecticut close to NYC; White Plains is almost in Connecticut). David 13:37, 2005 Apr 18 (UTC)

User dispute...help!
Corey, can you please take a look at the RfC page for User:SamuraiClinton and advise me where the heck we go from here with this user? This is without question the weirdest Wikipedia situation I've ever found myself in. Thanks! - Lucky 6.9 04:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 14:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Yeah! Ditto that!  I almost forgot!!  Anyway, thanks for getting back to me.  Raul654 is too busy to investigate and he suggested Snowspinner as a source of additional help.  Looking forward to hearing from you soon. - Lucky 6.9 17:26, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Santa Cruz Sky Park copyvio?
You flagged a page, just wanted to comment that the much of that timeline was taken from the following public record, my understanding would be that City Council Meeting public records would not be protected by copyright. Your thoughts?

Appendix A (pp. A-1 - A-4) of the Santa Cruz Sky Park Airport Master Plan Report, Santa Cruz City Council, 1979.

I referenced the URL just because that was the only other online source for that text and provided it to aid others in further research on other issues. Would I be better to simply reference the Santa Cruz City Council report and leave off the URL? What steps do I take to remove the copyvio notice? DanDawson 18:29, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Okay, just wondering, what is the process for getting rid of the copyvio notice on Santa Cruz Sky Park? Since we've confirmed permission was granted do I just replace the page myself?
 * Santa Cruz Sky Park/Temp is updated and ready to go.DanDawson 21:53, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Relicensing Images?
Hey just got your message about relicensing some of my images, I'd be happy to do so, I looked around but didn't see a straight forward way to do so...any tips? --Nathaniel

PA 103
Hi, you asked about the source of a bunch of Pan Am 103 images. Could you be more explicit about what you want to know? Most of the information on the image pages is self-explanatory: govt docs (PD), photos released by the court (PD), or widely available photographs allowable under fair use because we're an educational site. Perhaps you could put a note on the image talk page for each saying exactly what you need, and I'll track down the information for you. Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 09:01, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * I think some of them have that. Please put a note on the image talk pages saying what you want exactly, although note that if an image is very widely available (e.g. the photos of the cockpit, the accused, and the memorials), then there's not much point in having a website to link to, as there are hundreds, and it would just be a question of randomly picking one. SlimVirgin (talk) 09:08, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * All these images are solid, believe me. There's no one who would want to sue, and if they did, there are thousands of commercial websites they'd have to wade through before they reached us. But say what you need on each page, and I'll dig it up for you. Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 09:17, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * Please do not add the unverified tag to my images again. I have asked you to say exactly what you need on each image talk page, and when you've done that, I'll track down the material for you, but as things stand, I don't understand what you want. For example, the wanted poster of the PA 103 suspects: tens of thousands of these were distributed by the American govt around the Middle East. The particular photograph of them that I've used was released about 12 years ago by the American government. The image is PD without question, and I'm confused as to why you would doubt it. If you leave your specific concerns on the image talk pages, I'll do my best to address them. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 00:01, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your reply, Corey. Some of the images were taken by the U.S. govt and are PD; some were taken by the British govt but were released by them; the rest can be claimed as fair use as it's an important historical event, we are an educational website, and the copyright holders' do not stand to lose money because of the images' use. I also know roughly where I got the images from. So give me a day or two and I'll add the information and sources to the pages. Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 07:24, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

Edit on Ward Churchill
I thought I did that as two separate edits. Strange. My apologies.

 * I just checked; I did remove the resolution text as a separate edit. Please check your usage of the history tool. Kelly Martin 13:18, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

Kelly Martin 13:14, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

Image:Esteban Terradas.jpg
This image is Public domain as it is old enough according to Spanish laws, also the original is mine.

Image Copyright:::Ram gopal varma film.jpg.
This image has been taken from a fansite. When I contacted the webmaster of the site, came to know that the source of this picture is unknown and this fansite has no copyright on that image. Let me know how to proceed now.

Crossbuck.jpg file
I am practicing uploading jpg files.

Image:XB9002 Crossbuck Black Trk on Yellow Small.jpg is something I drew myself both drawing wise and concept wise. I thought that I had written a description for it, when it asked for one at upload.

Last time that I looked this .jpg file was not displaying correctly in Talk:Crossbuck Safety

Tabletop 09:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

SuperDude RfC
Thanks for weighing in on this issue. I can't begin to tell you how badly I felt "yelling" at an autistic individual. How can we close the RfC, assuming it isn't already closed? Android79 initiated it, BTW. He feels the same way I do. - Lucky 6.9 18:15, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * No sweat. I think this is pretty much a done deal anyway.  I am so glad this is over! - Lucky 6.9 23:59, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

photos
Regarding Shul.jpg and Rabbi Goldberger.jpg, I took both of those photos myself, and I own the copyrights.

I have now updated the 2 image file pages with this information.

Tzadik 23:21, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

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here is the source for Image:Translation.gif-   []  source: Russkii Vestnik - Zhurnal Literaturnyi I Politicheskii. Moskva : M. M. Kotkov, v. 139-150 (1878-1881). Dartmouth call number: 58BF.

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I think there is some confusion. The scan is a page from the original Russian out of a book that ceased publication in 1906 which can be seen from the Darmouth website. The book from 1990 you referred to is an English translation of this Russian work but the english page is not scanned so this should not be an issue. I hope that clears everything up. Thank you for your inquiry. Jonesboy1983 22:42, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Re: Image Copyright
Mr. Burgundavia,

I posted the sources on the pages for the two images. (Click on Image:Elderpanchen.gif and Image:Bjpt0926004.jpg)

Gardner image Hi Burgundavia, I obtained the image with permission from a friend who was writing a piece on Howard Gardner for an internal firm newsletter. She adapted the photo from an open database (and didnt use it in preference for another), which has permission for posting by anyone.

Regards EBlack

Pictures going blank.
Viewing some of my Crossbuck Safety pictures from work, some of the pictures (#3, #4, #5) were blank. Nothing there except a border. Later on, from home, the pictures were all back again.

Can you explain what is going on?

Tabletop 10:35, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

translation.gif PUI?
I tagged my file under public domain. But I don't understand what you mean by the PUI page or how to get a licencse for a file. Thanks for your help. --Jonesboy1983 15:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

on your message about my picture i uploaded for labrea tarpits. My dad shot that on one of his geological field trips.

sorry burgundavia
still getting used to this... the one big thing i did right under a runescape subgroup was replaced with IAMGAY over and over again... I used to live in Trinidad, so hopefully i can add alot of pictures to all of the existing Trinidad related topics. Curran919

Deleted Images
Yes, and thanks for understanding.ekimdrachir 17:34 23 Apr 2005

What's wrong with Albertans?
Wait a second... Redknecks, Cowboys, Ralph Klein... Nevermind. Fortunetly I am none of those things.

How do you do a timestamp?

Thanks. ekimdrachir 23:47, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome, question though..
Thanks for welcoming me. Have a question though, you marked my that I intend to use shortly on my user page. However, that image I made myself with elements taken from other images that used in Fair Use. Can you recommend what Tag I should use for it? And what should I then do to have it removed from deletion?

 * Edited the above image and applied the licence. The other image though I have left untouched since I have already marked it for deletion. Uploaded the wrong image! o_-; Thanks for the help. - Nidonocu 00:09, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

copy vio?
I'm a rookie so I didn't want to screw up by unilateral action, and you seemed to take an interest in these matters. HS-2000is a direct copy and paste job from. The article cites the website as source - but the website asserts its copyright. --Doc Glasgow 00:15, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ok I'll be bolder next time - I looked the list of copyvios for someone who had recently worked on one or two --Doc Glasgow 00:25, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Speedy deletes
Well, some of the stuff there I nominated somewhat, though not entirely blindly. Knowing that an admin would have to look at the history and inbound links on each one anyway, I decided to leave it up to them to decide whether or not the nomination was justified. Some of the Wiki Syntax pages might be re-created later by a bot (at least, I assume that the project manager is using a bot there), but only if they are needed, and I don't think there's any harm in deleting the existing pages. Some of the higher-numbered ones almost certainly won't be needed again, because the first-ever run of the system probably picked up a much higher number of mistakes than subsequent runs will. I was mostly just looking at a list of empty and uncategorized pages and trying to reduce clutter, so, I dunno; I'll have to defer to the judgement of others as to the accuracy of my nominations. -- Beland 05:59, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I am the project leader of the Typo/capitalization project, and I certainly approve deletion of those. I don't think there is a VFD project leader, so I'm not sure what to do there.  If there's any doubt that they are not spurious pages, leave them alone.  There are about 6000 VFD subpages that need to be dealt with en masse, anyway, so they can just be lumped in with those as soon as I figure out what the community wants done with them, if anything.  I will ask the Wiki Syntax project lead about his subpages. -- Beland 06:03, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * And I quote:
 * Hi Beland, Please feel free to delete those listing pages added by the Wiki Syntax project. They're easy to recreate if needed. They're all created via text copy-and-pasting the output of a script, I'm afraid, rather than a bot :-(. Only thing is I'd probably suggest keeping a handful of those pages - namely square-brackets 001 through to 007 inclusive, and triple-quotes-001 and 002 - because those page ranges are quite likely to get reused in future runs (those categories appear to have stabilized at those levels), so there's not much to be gained by deleting them; but deleting all the other stuff listed as speedy deletion sounds good as they're unlikely to be reused. I don't feel strongly about this though, so if you'd prefer to delete the lot, then that's fine too. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 08:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * ...though it looks like the category has already been cleared out. -- Beland 21:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for notifying me of untagged images. I'll make sure to provide the necessary info next time. ^_^ Sango  123  15:13, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

AMA Meeting Proposal
Hi! I put together a proposal for another AMA meeting that I'm hopeful you can chime in on. --Wgfinley 19:47, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Congressional bio images
Sadly, they never got back to me. Slackers. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 12:38, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)

PA 103
Corey, just to let you know that two of the websites I took the PA 103 images from seem to have disappeared, which is odd as they've been up for years and have both disappeared at the same time (yet were not connected to each other). They used to be here and [here. I'm therefore going through the images and re-labelling them fair use and will look for alternative sources for them, and may apply for permission where appropriate instead of relying on fair use. The ones that came from the U.S. govt I'm retaining as PD; likewise with the one or two (can't remember which) that I know the British government released. Hope this is okay. Best, [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] (talk) 22:19, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)

stub image
Hi Corey - just wanted to tell you that I've reverted the image you added to Writer-stub. Images put a lot of strain on the servers, so they were taken off a lot of the heavy-use templates about a month ago (see for details). Grutness|hello? 05:46, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Fair practice?
Hi Burgundavia: I cannot fathom why you have not follwed the correct Wikipedia procedures, see Possibly unfree images, which clearly states, inter alia: "...First, always contact the user who uploaded the image on their talk page and ask them to supply more information (even if the image says it's being used under a non-free license, maybe it is available under a free license as well). If there are a large number of problem images by the same uploader, consider waiting for a response before listing any of them..." which you have failed to do as you go about questioning images that I have used on Wikipedia at Possibly unfree images. I have tried to respond to some of your questions over there, but so far, yet again without so much as a tiny communication from you on my talk page that you were doing this, why? As an admin you should well know the rules of advising users about intended actions concerning work they have previously submitted! Kindly let me know what it is that you are up to, what you would like to explain to me, and why and how I can be of assistance in resolving this matter. Thank you. IZAK 07:44, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

replies
Hey, Burgundavia. I usually reply where the comment was made, so in case you do things differently, this is to let you know you've got two replies waiting on my talk page. Cheers →Vik Reykja 17:31, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Category:Aviation in New York City
I was part of that discussion; indeed I was the one who recommended that category's deletion when it was made into a catch-all metro New York category. I also said in the discussion that I thought this sort of category would be a better alternative, which noone objected to. This category isn't just for airports and does not supercede Category:Airports of New York in any way. Please withdraw the CfD for now pending some discussion, which I think should come first. Thanks.--Pharos 00:21, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I've not made a category for all airports in the New York area. I just want a category for aviation in The Five Boroughs.--Pharos 00:40, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

New York City is a real and significant entity, it's not an abstract statistical concept; it has eight million citizens, a 51-member city council, a billionaire mayor, even an income tax. Of course some people traveling to NYC land at Newark, but I think it is a significant fact that some transportation facilities are in the city and some are not; if there can be a Category:Transportation in New York City, then Category:Aviation in New York City should be allowed to be a proper subcategory of it.--Pharos 01:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What's wrong with a Category:New York City area airports or the like? Just because Newark is across the Hudson River doesn't make it less important than the other two, and it may even be closer to midtown than LaGuardia by time if you take NJ Transit. --SPUI (talk) 01:25, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * If SPUI's still watching this (I don't want to spread it over too many pages), please see Category talk:Airports of New York City; there was some opinion to put regional airports on a list, but I think that aviation topics in New York City (including non-airport topics) still belong under the Transportation in New York City hierarchy.--Pharos 01:40, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pandeism vfd
Please consider changing the basis for your vote on Votes for deletion/Pandeism from "made-up" to "non-notable." I believe I have adduced sufficient referential evidence to show that this article was not "original research," but simply an exposition on a philosophy which, although real, lacks enough adherents/proponents to be notable enough for inclusion. I apologize for having overestimated the importance of this topic. It was, after all, one of my first posts, when I was new to Wikipedia and not yet familiar with the criteria for notability. -- 8^D BD2412gab 04:37, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)
 * On second though, since its very easy for those not acquainted with religous details to confuse "theism" with "deism" - as demonstrated by the fact that most of the non-wiki-mirror references on the web do use pandeism to mean pantheism - a redirect would be useful. -- 8^D BD2412gab 06:41, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)
 * Forget the above. I have found conclusive evidence of the use of the term "Pandeism" dating back to 1833, being used by Godfrey Higgins, a follower of John Toland, the creator of pantheism.. The term is used in a book written by Higgins called the Anacalypsis. -- 8^D BD2412gab 10:25, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)

Cricket
Hi. You commented on the move of the cricket portal to cricket. Having moved the whole affair back, I have made my own proposal. Could you come and comment, so that we can get consensus for the best version. Cheers, Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 19:57, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

COTW Project
You voted for History of Quebec, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.

Brazilian Olympic Images
Hi. Thanks for your message. Well, the images are free. Just now, I returned to the website, which is still online, and in the multimidia section, image galleries subsection, where all the images are posted (still), the website has a header instructing the press to "click in [such and such place] to get the high resolution version of the images.  Thus, the website was offering the images to the press without any restriction, which means that those were released and would be free to be published indiscriminately anywhere — including Wikipedia, I gather.   Here's the section I mentioned, but it's in Portuguese (look for the header that reads "ATENÇÃO IMPRENSA", which means "attention press members", right underneath it, there's the sentence that instructs them on where to click to get the high resolution images).  Regards, Redux 19:05, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I could not find an e-mail address for the Webmaster (only the typical "give us your opinion" stuff). But I did find something that might solve this mistery: turns out that the images were released by the website as long as they are used for the sole purpose of covering the participation of Brazilian athletes, meaning that they did restrict use for commercial purposes.  Since Wikipedia is a non-profit organization and the articles in which the images are in use do cover the Brazilian performance in the games, it would appear that we are covered by their terms.  We might have to tag the images making the commercial restrictions known though. Here's the text of the "commitment term" that the press members have to "sign" (really it's just checking a box in one of those electronic forms) before having access to the high resolution versions of the images (I didn't translate it, they had a version in English on the website): "Upon accepting this commitment term, I agree to use the images available in this website for the sole purpose of the press coverage of brazilian athletes in sports-related events, and I understand that any other forms of use will constitute an infringement of international copyright laws." I must note that, even though they were offering an English version of the "commitment term", it was a somewhat poor translation of the actual stuff in Portuguese.  The English version says "press coverage", but the original version states "editorial coverage", which I believe allows use of the images in any means of divulgement, as long as it's not directly commercial (as in using the image in a company logo, for instance), according to their terms.  Do you think that we are covered?  Regards, Redux 21:16, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm on it. I've created this template to be used for those images.  If you'd like to take a look at the wording, I'd welcome it.  Regards, Redux 02:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

demo
I disagree with merging demo with Demonstration (disambiguation). None of the topics are ever referred to as demonstrations, just demos. Also, regarding Demo (computer programming), the programmers in the demoscene are known as "coders". I am respectfully reverting these edits, drop me a line to discuss — Teknic Talk/Mail 09:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi Burgandavia, Loads more airline stubs and articles to come - there is a lot missing. The airport stuff is great (although the proliferation of airport lists is a bit confusing to say the least). I will make sure that airport names are correct in my airline additions (ie match airports lists). Thanks for the word.Ardfern 22:03, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

meter
I'm fairly certain that "meter" is the only approved English spelling for the SI unit of measure -- at least, I've been taken to task by engineers and scientists for spelling it "metre". I note that the Wikipedia article doesn't agree with me, though, so I don't mind leaving it for now until I have a chance to dig up an authoritative source. David 00:00, 2005 May 4 (UTC)
 * Through my 6 years of physics in Canada, where we write everything -re that we can, ive enver seen it written metre, however, I have see kilometre a few times, but i would not call the source a credible one. Good luck on your search, id be interested in your findings. Curran919 00:06, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

 * SI is officially maintained by the BIPM. See their website at http://www1.bipm.org/en/si/

 * In official BIPM texts, the spelling 'metre' is used. However, there no is prohibition against other spellings. It is just the symbolic forms that are constrained. For example, Italians write speed as chilometri a l'ora, which could be abbreviated as cao or calo but you will see the symbolic form as km/h in Italy. English speakers are just lucky that there is a match between the words and the symbols. Think of it just like we write 'Hg' as the symbolic form for 'mercury'. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_system_of_units#Spelling_variations 62.49.16.208 20:40, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

GAP Project
I noticed you cleared the copyright violation for this article (on Apr. 22).

When you do work on a copyvio can you please update its listing on Copyright problems?

If you resolve a copyright violation you need to remove the listing on Copyright problems. Remember, listings must stay in place for at least seven days.

I went to clear this listing today (May 4th) only to find that there was no copyvio tag and there were still copyright violations in the text. After deleting, I see that you deleted some versions on April 22, including the copyvio tagged version.

I've reverted the article to the most recent version I could find that doesn't contain any copyright violations and deleted from history all other versions.--Duk 19:13, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/naming conventions
Pl. add a comment to WikiProject Airports/naming conventions telling that "nothing has been finalized" other wise it will confuse people like me, thanks -Bijee 23:05, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

COTW
Please note that the rules of voting for Collaboration of the Week candidates have changed. It is now allowed to vote for only three users on the list. I am not removing the votes you already gave, but any further votes will be removed if the rules are not followed. Any further discussion should take place on the Talk page of the project. Thanks. --Eleassar777 07:32, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Internet Links
Were those links to commercial? I thought since they were links it would be okay? I was just trying to give as much information as I could find. WikiDon

 * Well, I know for me, many Wikipedia articles leave me wanting more, I want more info, to learn more. Why do people even bother creating articles like Eclipse_Aviation? They only give you a taste without getting to have a good drink of knowledge. WikiDon

 * I don't even like making a new link unless I can back it up right away with substance. It's like the waiter bringing you a plate with parsley, and no meat and potato's. WikiDon

Burgundavia, I agree with you 100%, but is there any Wikipedia documention for supporting your comment at User_talk:WikiDon -TanX Bijee 04:15, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Image:300px-Montacute.jpg
The image page for Image:300px-Montacute.jpg states that the image is a photograph taken by the uploader Giano, who releases it to the public domain, so I do not understand why you listed its copyright status as unverified. The work that you are doing on this image project is great, however. This is a nitpick. --Theo (Talk) 17:25, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation. I mistakenly understood the ==File History== section of the page to show the edit history of the page. Weird that it does not, but a useful lesson to learn. --Theo  (Talk) 20:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Photo
Dear Burgundavia: Hello! Thanks for your message in my user page. I love the fact you promote yourself as an airline hehe and I love the fact you are committed to aviation. I am mostly committed to aviation and boxing, but I like to stray off and write about people, or things, that have made an important contribution (or at least an infamous contribution) to society.

If I had been born a billionaire, I would have stayed in Puerto Rico and made a real airline. Like Mexicana, Cubana, Dominicana and Ecuatoriana, mine would have been named Puertorriquena de Aviacion. I imagine a fleet of DC-9's (now called MD-80, whatever!), Boeing 727s and a couple of A340s and a Boeing 747 just to say we had them..lol. Dreaming is free!!!

About the Ecuatoriana and Raphael Hernadez photos, I believe they are only free for the site because at the time I asked for permission I had no idea that the site was making a DVD and I did not inform the owners. There are several other pictures like that on the wikipedia, particularly the ones I obtained permission for. I usually search on Airliners.net. There, they have every photo you can be on the lookout for you should see by yourself.

Thanks for the message and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Puertorriquena's President Martin

Ehem well they are over 50 photos. All I promise is I will try to contact them all. But, on the other hand the photos make the article prettier so that would be sad if they had to go. And, like I said, just for everyone to know, Rapahel Hernandez Aorport is not Rapahel, but Rafael, named after the famous Aguadilla composer Rafael Hernandez. Thanks a bunch and God bless you burgundavia!

Sincerely yours Antonio Reckless Flight Martin

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Vibo Valentia

Vibo Valentia (Monteleone before 1861; Monteleone di Calabria from 1861 to 1928; Vibbu Valenzia or Muntalaùni) is a city and comune (municipality) in the Italian region of Calabria, near the Tyrrhenian Sea. It is the capital of the province of Vibo Valentia, and is an agricultural, commercial and tourist center (the most famous places nearby are Tropea, Ricadi and Pizzo). There are also several large manufacturing industries, including the tuna district of Maierato. Very important for the local economy is Vibo Marina's harbour.

History

Vibo Valentia was originally the Greek colony of Hipponion (Ἱππόνιον). It was founded, probably around the late 7th century BC, by inhabitants of Locri, a principal city of the region on the Ionian Sea. The massive city wall of 7 km circumference, a length of which can still be seen today, enclosed an area over the hill and down to the port. It had cylindrical towers at intervals and its monumental size testifies to the wealth of the city and the wars the city was involved in throughout its long history.

Diodorus Siculus reports that the city was taken in 388 BC by Dionysius the Elder tyrant of Syracuse, who deported all the population. The population came back in 378 BC, with the help of the Carthaginians. In the following years Hipponion came under the dominion of the Bruttii, who controlled most of the present Calabria. After the town fell to Rome, the name was Latinised to Hipponium. The town became a Roman colony in 194 BC with the name of Vibo Valentia.

It enjoyed a period of prosperity during the late Republic and early Empire, and Cicero had a villa here. The town was almost completely abandoned after the fall of the Western Roman Empire. In 1070, the Normans built a castle at the site of the old Acropolis and in 1235 a new city was established by Frederick II, Holy Roman emperor and king of Sicily, with the name of Monteleone. The city got back the old Roman name of Vibo Valentia only in 1928.

Bishopric
A Diocese of Vibo Valentia was established in 451AD and suppressed in 1083AD when it was incorporated into the Diocese of Mileto. In 1968 it was restored as a titular see. The title has been assigned to:
 * Andreas Rigracher (1969–1970)
 * Luciano Angeloni (1970–1996)
 * Aldo Cavalli (1996–present)

Main sights

 * Norman-Hohenstaufen Castle, located most likely on the site of Hipponion acropolis, and built around 1000. For its construction materials from the Greek temples nearby were used. It was damaged by an earthquake in 1783. Today the castle is home to a state museum.
 * Walls of Hipponion, including about 350 m of remains and foundations of eight towers, each with an estimated height of 10 m.
 * Church of Santa Maria Maggiore e San Leoluca (Cathedral), built in the 9th century over the remains of a Byzantine basilica. It has an 18th-century marble high altar with a 16th-century sculpture of "Madonna della Neve", and a Renaissance triptych.
 * Santa Ruba:  (c. 1000), church built during the reign of Pope Callixtus II. It has a large cupola in Oriental style. It is located halfway between Vibo Valentia and San Gregorio d'Ippona.
 * Church of the Rosario (c. 1337), located over a Roman temple. Originally in Gothic style, it was remade after the 1783 earthquake. Moreover, it preserves different paintings of the local artist Giulio Rubino as well as 5 polychrome wooden statues of the Sorrowful Mysteries and a Risen Christ made by Ludovico and Domenico Rubino (brothers of Giulio, the painter), carried in procession during the Holy Week.
 * Church of Carmine: built in the 17th century with a single-nave and an oval shape. The convent has been the city hospital for a long time.
 * Church of Santa Maria degli Angeli: built between 1621 and 1666, at first annexed to the convent of the Reformed Friars Minor (now National Boarding School), it is handled by Capuchin Fathers. It preserves a wooden Cross called "of Angels" of an unknown author of '600, destination of thousands of devotees who go on pilgrimage every year by tradition on every Friday in March.
 * Church of Saint Michael: inside there are a paint by Luca Giordano, San Michele che scaccia Lucifero, and a paint by Ludovico Mazzanti, Estasi di Sant'Ignazio.
 * Church of Saint Joseph: wanted by the Jesuit Fathers, it was opened to worship in 1701 with the name of Saint Ignatius or of Jesus; it preserves several paintings including The vision of Saint Ignatius and sculptures like the wooden composition of Saint Joseph on the high altar.
 * Church of the Holy Spirit: built in 1579, it is still deconsecrated; it was the first church of the city before the construction of the current one. Inside different artistic works were preserved until its closing and then they were moved to other churches in the city.
 * Church of Santa Maria la Nova: built in 1521 with the name of Santa Maria di Gesù by duke Ettore Pignatelli, it preserves the sarcophagus of him. During the Napoleonic domination it was used as stable and armory; then, in 1837, it was restored and reopened by Enrico Gagliardi. Inside there are many works by the Flemish painter Dirk Hendricksz.
 * Church of Santa Maria del Soccorso: built around 1632, it was reconstructed in 1791 based on the drawings provided by Bernardo Morena.
 * La Madonnella: small church built on the site of the ancient convent of the Capuchins.
 * Church of Saint Anthony of Padua: built during the 17th century, it was annexed to the convent of Friars Minor Capuchin; on the inside there are one painting by Luca Giordano, La Madonna col bambino tra i Santi Anna e Felice, and one by Pacecco De Rosa, l'Immaculata con i santi Francesco e Antonio.

Twin towns

 * Corleone, Palermo, Sicily, Italy
 * 🇵🇱 Ruda Śląska, Poland
 * 🇷🇸 Vrnjačka Banja, Serbia
 * 🇦🇷 Ituzaingó, Argentina

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Could someone please show me where Beefheart claims that Zapp "sabotaged" the sessions for Trout Mask Replica? It is mentioned in quite a blasé manner here, but on searching the internet I can't find any other reference to this apparent tension.

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Mozart's Money

Mozart's Money is the third album by folk artist Hugh Blumenfeld. It was released in 1996 by Prime CD.

Track listing

 * 1) "Mozart's Money" – 3:15
 * 2) "Raphael" – 3:48
 * 3) "Waiting for the Good Humour Man" – 2:28
 * 4) "This Mountain" – 3:44
 * 5) "Talking Island" – 2:05
 * 6) "Mr. Rain" – 3:22
 * 7) "Main Street Sky" – 3:54
 * 8) "What If You Do Nothing"/"Winter Suite" – 2:46
 * 9) "Sweet October" – 1:18
 * 10) "Sparrowhawk" – 4:11
 * 11) "Blizzard" – 4:28
 * 12) "Friends of a Traveler" – 4:20
 * 13) "Visit" – 2:00
 * 14) (Data Track) – 2:01
 * 15) "When Hiroshima Comes To Disneyland" (Hidden Track) – 2:48

Personnel

 * Hugh Blumenfeld - Guitar, Main Performer, Vocals
 * Dennis McDermott - Drums
 * Marshall Rosenberg - Percussion
 * David Seitz - Producer, Mixing, Engineer
 * Michael Visceglia - Bass
 * Judith Zweiman - Vocals
 * Diane Chodkowski - Vocals
 * Gideon Freudmann - Cello
 * Jeff Colchamiro - Assistant Engineer, Mixing Assistant
 * Ray Martin - Mixing
 * Lucy Kaplansky - Vocals
 * Jack Bashkow - Sax (Alto)
 * Mark Dann - Bass, Guitar
 * David Hamburger - Pedal Steel
 * Margo Hennebach - Piano
 * Mindy Jostyn - Harmonica
 * Bill Kollar - Mastering
 * Harvee Riggs - Artwork concept & design, color photography, digital image design, art direction, pre-press graphic arts
 * Andrea Gaines - B&W photos & face painting
 * Mark Saunders - Text layout

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User talk:Trump713

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Talk:Laura Holt

Votes for deletion/Laura Holt Jinian 21:46, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Ich habe genug, BWV 82

Ich habe genug (original: Ich habe genung, English: "I have enough" or "I am content"), BWV 82, is a church cantata by Johann Sebastian Bach. He composed the solo cantata for bass in Leipzig in 1727 for the Feast Mariae Reinigung (Purification of Mary) and first performed it on 2 February 1727. In a version for soprano, BWV 82a, possibly first performed in 1731, the part of the obbligato oboe is replaced by a flute. Part of the music appears in the Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach. The cantata is one of the most recorded and performed of Bach's sacred cantatas. The opening aria and so-called "slumber aria" are regarded as some of the most inspired creations of Bach.

History and words
Bach composed the cantata in his fourth year in Leipzig for the feast Purification of Mary. The prescribed readings for the feast day were taken from the book of Malachi, "the Lord will come to his temple", and from the Gospel of Luke, the purification of Mary and the presentation of Jesus at the Temple, including Simeon's canticle Nunc dimittis , on which the libretto is based. In previous years Bach had composed two cantatas concentrating on Simeon's canticle, Erfreute Zeit im neuen Bunde, BWV 83, in 1724 and the chorale cantata on Martin Luther's paraphrase of the canticle, Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin, BWV 125, in 1725. More than in these earlier works, the text of Ich habe genug stresses the desire to escape earthly misery and be united with Jesus. Until recently the poet's identity was not known, but recent research suggests that he was Christoph Birkmann, a student at the University of Leipzig in the 1720s.

Bach first performed the cantata on 2 February 1727. The extant autograph score and the parts show that he performed it at least three more times, in a version for soprano, BWV 82a, the first possibly in 1731 or even as early as 1730, another version for soprano in 1735; and again for bass, with minor changes to the original version, after 1745. Bach obviously had a high regard for this work. The first recitative and most of the aria "Schlummert ein" were copied to the Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach in a version with continuo accompaniment, presumably entered by Anna Magdalena Bach for her own use. Other cantatas that Bach performed for the same occasion are, according to Alfred Dürr, Komm, du süße Todesstunde, BWV 161, Ich lasse dich nicht, du segnest mich denn, BWV 157, and Der Friede sei mit dir, BWV 158, with similar topics.

In the first version of the cantata, the choice of the bass voice probably illustrates the old man Simeon. The soprano voice shows more clearly that the situation applies to that of any believer.

Structure and scoring
The cantata is structured in five movements, with alternating arias and recitatives. In the first version it was scored for a bass soloist and a Baroque instrumental ensemble of oboes (Ob), two violins (Vl), viola (Va), and basso continuo. It takes about 23 minutes to perform. Another version exists for soprano, transposed from C minor to E minor with the oboe part replaced by flute and slightly altered. In the 1740s version for bass, an oboe da caccia is the obbligato instrument.

In the following table, the scoring follows the Neue Bach-Ausgabe (New Bach Edition), for the version for bass in C minor. The keys and time signatures are from Alfred Dürr, and use the symbol for common time. The continuo, played throughout, is not shown.

Music
The first movement, an aria, begins with an expressive melody of the obbligato oboe which is picked up by the voice on the words "Ich habe genug" (I have enough). The beginning upward leap of a minor sixth is reminiscent of the aria "Erbarme dich" (Have mercy) in Bach's St Matthew Passion and the aria "Wenn kömmst du, mein Heil?" (When will you come, my salvation?) from Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme, BWV 140. The first motif is changed to a phrase that appears at the end of three vocal sections. A similar motif begins the middle section on the words "Ich hab ihn erblickt" (I have seen him), turning upwards in the end. Klaus Hofmann notes a "feeling of serene contentedness with life" in "elegiac tones" as the aria's expression. Musicologist Julian Mincham notes "that instant when body and soul come to rest and are resigned and in complete harmony. Bach encapsulates this experience of peace and acquiescent submission beyond anything that mere words can convey." He sees the "flowing oboe arabesques", which the singer imitates twice on the word "Freude" (joy) as a "clear indication that their expressive function is to proclaim the Christian's personal bliss, an inextricable element of this important experience of life".

The following recitative begins with the same words as the aria, "Ich habe genug", on a new melody. The middle section stresses the words "Laßt uns mit diesem Manne ziehn!" (Let us go with this man!), speaking of following Jesus, by an arioso in which the continuo follows the singer.

The central aria, beginning "Schlummert ein, ihr matten Augen" (Fall asleep, you weary eyes), is a Schlummer-Arie (slumber aria). In a complex structure, it is not only a da capo aria of three sections framed by a ritornello of the strings, but repeats the first section in the center of the middle section. Frequent use of pedal point suggests rest, fermatas stop the forward motion, as described by Mincham who writes, "The frequent pauses, where everything temporarily comes to a standstill, are suggestive of that peaceful closing of life where there is no activity and disorder is a thing of the past".

A short secco recitative, beginning "Mein Gott! wenn kömmt das schöne: Nun!" (My God! When will the lovely 'now!' come), ends with a downward continuo line, suggesting both "taking one's leave and being lowered into the welcoming grave".

The concluding aria is a joyful dance, anticipating death as the fulfillment of desire, "Ich freue mich auf meinen Tod" (I am looking forward to my death). The "joyful longing for the hereafter" is expressed by "agile coloraturas that characterize the entire movement". Mincham notes that the final aria corresponds to the first in similarity of the scoring with the obbligato instrument, key, and triple time. The final aria is faster, marked "vivace". The text first treats the "joy of anticipation of death and the desire for it to happen imminently", then, treated in the middle section, the "conviction that death will release us from the misery of the world to which we have been chained".

Recordings
As one of the best known of Bach's church cantatas, set for both a male and a female soloist, it is "the most frequently recorded of all the Bach cantatas over a period of more than sixty years", with 101 complete recordings listed, and several more of individual movements, especially the version from Anna Magdalena Bach's notebook. Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau recorded the cantata three times, in 1951 with Karl Ristenpart, in July 1968 with Karl Richter, in 1983 with Helmuth Rilling. In 1966, Janet Baker was the soloist in a recording conducted by Yehudi Menuhin.

 * J. S. Bach: Cantata No. 82 – Ich habe genug, Walter Susskind, Philharmonia Orchestra, Hans Hotter, Columbia (unissued) 1948
 * Bach: Kantaten BWV 56 & 82, Karl Ristenpart, Kammerorchester Karl Ristenpart, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, Archiv Produktion 1951
 * Bach Cantatas No. 56 & 82, Geraint Jones, The Geraint Jones Orchestra, Gérard Souzay, His Master's Voice 1959
 * Les Grandes Cantates de J.S. Bach Vol. 18, Fritz Werner, Pforzheim Chamber Orchestra, Barry McDaniel, Erato 1964
 * J. S. Bach: Cantatas Nos. 56 & 82, John Shirley-Quirk, Academy of St Martin in the Fields, Neville Marriner, Decca 1965
 * Bach: Two Solo Cantatas: Cantata BWV 169, Gott soll allein mein Herze haben; Cantata BWV 82a, Ich habe genug, Yehudi Menuhin, Bath Festival Orchestra, Janet Baker, EMI 1966
 * J. S. Bach: Kantaten BWV 56 & 82 Karl Richter, Münchener Bach-Orchester, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau 1969
 * Bach: Cantatas (BWV 56, 4, 82) Frans Brüggen, Max van Egmond, Sony 1977
 * Die Bach Kantate Vol. 4, Helmuth Rilling, Bach-Collegium Stuttgart, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, Hänssler 1983
 * J. S. Bach: Solokantaten, Hans Stadlmair, Münchener Kammerorchester, Josef Loibl, Schwann Musica Sacre 1984
 * J. S. Bach: Cantatas BWV 202 · 82a · 199, Dominique Debart, L'Ensemble de Basse-Normandie, Teresa Żylis-Gara, Rudolphe 1986
 * J. S. Bach: Kantaten BWV 56, 82, 158, Olaf Bär, Scottish Chamber Orchestra, Peter Schreier (dir.), EMI 1991.
 * J. S. Bach: Cantates pour basse, Philippe Herreweghe, La Chapelle Royale, Peter Kooy, Harmonia Mundi, 1991.
 * J. S. Bach: Cantatas BWV 82 · 49 · 58, Sigiswald Kuijken, La Petite Bande, Klaus Mertens, Accent 1993
 * J. S. Bach: Wedding Cantatas BWV 82, 202, 210, Emma Kirkby, Christopher Hogwood, Academy of Ancient Music, Decca, 1996.
 * J. S. Bach: Cantatas for the Feast of Purification of Mary, John Eliot Gardiner, English Baroque Soloists, Peter Harvey, Soli Deo Gloria 2000
 * J. S. Bach: Complete Cantatas Vol. 16, Ton Koopman, Klaus Mertens, Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra, Antoine Marchand 2001
 * Bach Cantatas BWV 82 and 199, Craig Smith, Emmanuel Music, Lorraine Hunt Lieberson, Nonesuch, 2002
 * Bach Cantatas, Rainer Kussmaul, Berliner Barock Solisten, Thomas Quasthoff, Deutsche Grammophon, 2004
 * Bach: Kantaten · Cantatas BWV 82, BWV 158, BWV 56, Michael Schneider, La Stagione, Gotthold Schwarz, Capriccio 2006
 * J. S. Bach: Cantatas Vol. 38 (Solo Cantatas) – BWV 52, 55, 82, 58, Masaaki Suzuki, Bach Collegium Japan, Peter Kooy, BIS 2006
 * German Baroque Cantatas, Stephan MacLeod (singer and conductor), Gli Angeli Genève, Sony Classical 2007
 * Bach Cantatas for Bass BWV 82/158/56/203 Ryo Terakado, il Gardellino, Dominik Wörner. Passacaille 2013
 * J. S. Bach: Cantata BWV 82, Lars Ulrik Mortensen, Thomas E. Bauer, Netherlands Bach Society, All of Bach 2014
 * J. S. Bach: Cantatas BWV 54, 82 & 170, Iestyn Davies (countertenor), Jonathan Cohen, Arcangelo, Hyperion 2017

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One oversight I just can't tolerate - Zell's like of hot dogs only exists in the American version of FFVIII. In Japan, it was bread. Ergo, don't read into that. --L. 21:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * And in the french translation, it's bretzels... I expect it differs for each translation. Valmoer 14:07, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Hot Dogs work better, because the game implies that Zell is considered to be gay by the other characters. There you've got your penis metaphor!- Anon —This unsigned comment was added by 65.80.116.177 (talk • contribs).

Zell also loves hot dogs in the UK version of the game. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.93.21.34 (talk • contribs).

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Is it just me or does Zell have a tattoo that looks like Mike Tysons?--TKGB 05:26, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Other than the fact that they’re both on the left side of the face and around the eye, far from it. --70.25.168.90 23:19, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

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Huh, I was somewhat certain that Zell somewhat mimicked Fuujin's speech patterns in those scenes in Balamb, too. I'm not entirely sure, though, but I do recall the Raijin mimicking. -Anonymous —This unsigned comment was added by 67.185.179.224 (talk • contribs).

Didn't Nomura deny the homosexuality rumor in an interview in Ultimania's guide?
I'm sure I've heard this all over. The homosexuality controversy just seems like tacked on propoganda. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.65.99.67 (talk • contribs).
 * Where have you heard it? --70.25.168.90 23:19, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

It's in the Ultimania guide, an official guide from SquareEnix (or Squaresoft at the time) which is released in Japan. Yes, it was denied and as such, the previous article was incorrect. I have updated the article to include this information, and I've removed any information which is either erronous or did not have a citation. While I was at it, I also tidied up the page layout, making it that much easier to navigate. Therefore, I'd appreciate if people didn't revert it in future. --Sonicandfffan 11:03, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Why's he so pissed in the final FMV?
I know he chokes on the food, but why does he get angry? Cuz they recorded it?

--ComposerWannabe 02:26, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Good question, I guess we'll never know. --144.134.203.214 17:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

i just heard from a friend of mine that Zell was very undeniably attracted to Squall in the Japanese version of the game... anyone know anything about this? Blueaster 17:14, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I think it was in a scene when Squall saves Zell by taking out Galbadian soldiers cornering him, Zell got down to his knees and started to hug Squall's legs to thank him. Squall was not very pleased and had to hit him on the head with the hilt of his gunblade to make him let go of him. Afterdeath 10:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

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Bermet Askarevna Akayeva (Kyrgyz: Бермет Аскаревна Акаева; born June 3, 1972, in Leningrad) is a Kyrgyz politician and former MP. She is the daughter of ousted former President of Kyrgyzstan Askar Akayev. She graduated from the Frunze physics and mathematics school in 1989, studied at the Faculty of Computational Mathematics and Cybernetics, Moscow State University from 1989 to 1992 and at the Business School of Lausanne from 1992 to 1994. After receiving her MBA in 1994 she worked in the United Nations Compensation Commission in Geneva as a legal assistant. In 2000, she moved to Kyrgyzstan and became involved in business there.

Bermet Akayeva ran for Parliament during the 2005 legislative election. Roza Otunbayeva, a leading opposition figure, was deregistered from the same district where Akayeva was running. The 'Alga, Kyrgyzstan' Party led by Akayeva was accused of numerous machinations and falsifications during the elections. After fleeing during the Tulip Revolution, Bermet Akayeva returned to the Parliament on April 14, 2005, meeting a protest of around 100 people. They accused her of attempting to stir up tensions within the nation. However, Edil Baisalov of the Coalition for Democracy and Civil Society said her return demonstrated that she was ready to take "responsibility for numerous machinations, political as well as economic, which turned the fate of our country into a playground for the Akayev family." Bolotbek Maripov, who lost to Akayeva in a disputed parliament seat, said that her return showed courage. "I'm glad that there's at least one man in the Akayev family," he added. However, on May 16 her mandate was revoked by the Central Election Commission of Kyrgyzstan. They had undertaken an investigation into voting in Akayeva's district and ruled that the elections in the area were illegitimate.

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The Young Master

The Young Master is a 1980 Hong Kong martial arts film starring and directed by Jackie Chan, who also writer with Edward Tang, Lau Tin-chi, and Tung Lu. The film co-stars Yuen Biao, Fung Fung and Shih Kien. The film was released theatrically in Hong Kong on 9 February 1980.

Notable for being the first film that Jackie Chan worked on for Golden Harvest, it is his second film as director. The film was produced by Raymond Chow and Leonard Ho.

Plot
The school attended by Dragon and his brother, Tiger is entered against a rival school in a Lion dance competition. The school needs to win the prize money to remain open but their star performer, Tiger, is seemingly injured when he falls from a ladder, leaving his brother, Dragon, to take his place. During the competition, Dragon realizes that his brother feigned his accident in order to take part in the competition for the rival school.

The rival school wins the competition, but the truth emerges about Tiger's betrayal and he is exiled in disgrace. However, Dragon vows to bring back his errant brother so the pair can make amends to their master. Dragon sets off on his mission, but en route is mistaken for a criminal known as The White Fan by local police chief, Sang Kung along with his son and daughter. Meanwhile, Tiger collaborates with his employers (the rival school) by freeing a dangerous criminal known as Kam. However, Tiger is later framed for a bank robbery. To stop his brother from being arrested, Dragon promises to apprehend the escapee, Kam.

The Young Master ends with a furious, brutal fight between Kam and Dragon, in which Dragon sustains substantial damage. At the beginning of the fight, it appears that Kam has the upper hand as he punishes Dragon with blindingly fast punches and kicks. However, after consuming water from an opium pipe given to him by a whimsical old man, Dragon becomes energized and defeats Kam. The Young Master ends with Dragon returning to his hometown, a hero (albeit one in full body cast from the many injuries he sustained).

Cast

 * Jackie Chan as Sheng Lung / Dragon
 * Shih Kien as Sang Kung
 * Yuen Biao as Sang Kung's son / Fourth Brother
 * Wei Pai as Tiger
 * Tien Feng as Master Tien
 * Hwang In-shik as Master Kam
 * Fung Fung as Ah Suk
 * Lee Hoi-sang as Kam's Second Bodyguard
 * Fung Hak-on as Kam's First Bodyguard
 * Lily Li as Sang Kung's Daughter
 * Fan Mei-sheng - Sheng as Bull
 * Yue Tau-ean as Cross Eye
 * Bruce Tang Yim-chan as Ah Chang

Production
Chan nearly suffocated when he injured his throat.

Music
The theme song played over the closing credits, Kung Fu Fighting Man was the first song recorded and performed by Jackie Chan. He has since gone on to release many records, and has performed the theme songs on many of his films.

Versions
There are two main versions of the film; a 106-minute Hong Kong cut, and a 90-minute international cut.

The original version of the film that Chan handed over to Golden Harvest was reportedly three hours in length.

Box office
In Hong Kong, the film grossed HK$1,026,283  (US$). In South Korea, it was the highest-grossing film of 1980, with 436,631 box office admissions in Seoul City, equivalent to an estimated KRW (US$). In Japan, it was the 21st highest-grossing film of 1981, earning ¥930 million (US$million). In Spain (where it released in 1982), the film sold 288,196 tickets, equivalent to an estimated € (US$). Combined, the film grossed an estimated total of approximately US$ in Asia and Europe.

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