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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hurricane Climate

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Hurricane Climate
Entire page consists of:"Hurricane climate refers to both the climatalogy of hurricanes and to the role climate factors play in modulating hurricane activity. For more information go to Hurricane Climate"So, one very unclear and poorly-written sentance, followed by a promotional link. Delete. -- Dcfleck 01:37, 2005 Apr 18 (UTC) The promotional link is gone now. -- Dcfleck 12:31, 2005 Apr 19 (UTC)
 * Delete. Link spam. - Lucky 6.9 05:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not only is the article uninformative, but the anon who wrote it originally has been flagrantly flouting the VfD notice--it's been edited eight times since the notice went up. Kill it.Dave1898 12:05, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * There's nothing inherently wrong with trying to fix up an article up for deletion — in fact, the prospect of imminent demise has improved many pages greatly. However, I don't see that the changes that have been made to this article have improved its coherence. There's nothing here that hasn't been better said at Hurricane or Climatology; at best, this article could be a redirect.
 * Ask some climatologist about importance of the term Pavel Vozenilek 02:36, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Clear Channel UK

Clear Channel UK is the British division of Clear Channel Outdoor, a global OOH advertising company based in San Antonio, Texas, United States of America. It operates through a complex group structure, with some 70 UK subsidiary companies.

Formerly part of iHeartMedia, as with its U.S. parent, the entertainment division is no longer part of Clear Channel, but is now a separate subsidiary, known as Live Nation UK that is part of a separate company, Live Nation.

Clear Channel UK
Clear Channel UK is an Out of Home media owner, operating over 40,000 advertising sites across the UK. These sites include classic Adshel 6-sheet posters, digital Adshel Live 6-sheet posters, digital 6-sheet screens and large format screens at malls nationwide, as well as Sainsbury's and Asda supermarkets, and smaller Socialite screens in pubs and bars; classic billboards, digital Wrap billboards, and large format digital Storm sites.

Relation to ClearChannel Group Structure
Clear Channel has 3 main UK holding companies (highlighted in red on the table below), all of which are wholly owned subsidiaries of ClearChannel International Holdings BV, registered in the Netherlands.

The Netherlands company is a wholly owned subsidiary of Clear Channel Communications Inc, which is listed on the New York Stock Exchange.

List of Main UK subsidiaries
''This information was modified from the original information taken from the UK Companies Database in April 2005, and re-ordered to show the relationships between holding companies and subsidiaries more clearly. Companies previously associated with Clear Channel Entertainment have been removed as they were spun off into a separate company now associated with "Live Nation". Each company's subsidiaries are displayed directly below it. Each line shows, in the following order:''

 * Number of holding companies. This shows the 'level of ownership' of the company - the number of holding companies between it and iHeartMedia, the main Clear Channel company which is listed on the New York Stock Exchange. Clear Channel Entertainment UK Limited (shown in red) is held by 2 'parent' companies - ClearChannel International Holdings BV, registered in the Netherlands, and Clear Channel Communications Inc, which is listed on the New York Stock Exchange. Their subsidiaries (in dark grey) have 3 holding (parent) companies. Their subsidiaries (light grey) have 4 holding companies, and so forth.
 * Number of subsidiary companies. This table only shows the main subsidiary companies. Some of the light grey companies have many subsidiaries which are listed in the table below. This layout is intended to make the table clearer.
 * Notes from the Companies Database indicating the company's purpose.

''The information given in the Companies Database is not fully up to date - companies normally have a time window in which to file documents, and even when filed, the documents may take some time to become available on the database. Both tables only include active companies. Companies officially designated as 'dormant' or 'wound up' are not shown in the table, but are counted as 'subsidiaries' in the table above. This is why some companies in the table above will show more subsidiaries than are included in the table below.''

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User:Quantum bird

How I became a Wikipedian
The story of how I became a Wikipedian is an interesting and a strange one indeed. Although I cannot recall the details of what happened on the day that I call the "Enlightenment", I will try to retell the memories from that day with as much accuracy as I am able to.

So, basically, the story goes somewhat like this... Well, one day (Some while ago, I don't remember the date) me and this other guy I know (Not exactly a great description, but this person of whom I speak wishes to remain anynomous for particular reasons {If you happen to be the anonymous individual of whom I speak and are reading this right now, well you know who you are!}) were walking down the school hallways at our routine lunch break with nothing better to do. So we started up a conversation. Just a regular old conversation, like the billions of conversations that take place between individuals all over the world all the time. This time, me and my anonymous pal were discussing the famous Chinese epic, Journey to the West, the exciting tale of a Buddhist monk and his disciples searching for the scrolls of salvation. I happened to bring up the topic of Sun Wukong, the "monkey king" protagonist of the story and how he got to possess the supernatural powers he manifests throughout the novel in order to help him and his master defeat the great perils and arrive closer to the scrolls of salvation. My anonymous friend then explained how Sun Wukong trained under a master who taught him 72 transformations as well as how to ride at an extremely fast speed on a cloud(I forget how fast; the speed is described somewhere). "A cloud?" I asked curiously. "Like the Lakitu in Super Mario Bros.?". "Yes, Indeed like the Lakitu", said the other dude. So, then, as we were on the topic of Super Mario, we talked about other issues such as how the idea of the Warp Pipes which could transport Mario from one place to another came from a concept in Star Trek and how the idea of the Super Mushroom was derived from the "Eat-me" cakes and "Drink-me" potions in the children's story Alice in Wonderland.

Then, suddenly, I asked the question... the question that led to the event that changed me into a Wikipedian.

Me: "{Insert name of anonymous friend here}, have you ever been to Wikipedia?"

Other guy: "Yeah, I even signed up for it and edited a few articles once in a while."

Me: "YOU DID!? YOU EDITED WIKIPEDIA!!! YOU COULD DO THAT!? I WANT TO SIGN UP FOR AND EDIT WIKIPEDIA TOO!!!."

Other guy: Sure, sign up for Wikipedia.

.... And so it came to be. In a few days or so after this conversation took place, I signed up for Wikipedia under the user name Quantum bird.

My Wild Personality
- If you are reading this, chances are you may either be someone who knows me, or someone who completely does not have any faint idea of who I am. You may get the impression from reading these few paragraphs that I am a wild and wacky person who has a tendency to run amok at times. I don't deny this.

Further Developments
Recently, the mysterious individual who cannot be named for special purposes, has enlightened me on a number of various topics of interest. Among other things, one of the more major enlightenments of which I was only recently discovered of in late February of this year (2006) was the knowledge of the details of the legendary Doraemon, a famous 27-year-old cartoon well known in Japan and Hong Kong, but less so in the Western hemisphere in which I currently reside. Doraemon is a robotic cat sent from the future (2112) to help Nobita Nobi, a struggling, weak and failing boy to be a competent person. This series of cartoons, films and comics, of epic proportions, could be said to be one of the greatest Japanese artistic ideas of all time. konna koto ii na   dekitara ii na    anna yume konna yume ippai aru kedo minna minna minna kanaete kureru fushigina POKKE de kanaete kureru sora wo jiyuu ni tobitai na   (hai! takekoputaa!) AN AN AN   tottemo daisuki DORAEMON this sort of thing is good I wish I could do it   that sort of dream, this sort of dream, I have many of them but all of them, all of them, all of them he grants my dreams he grants my dreams with a mysterious pocket I want to fly freely in the sky (Here! Bamboo-copter!) ah ah ah   I love you very much, Doraemon

- ===The Dorayaki=== As I was being enlightened more and more about the fictional universe of the Doraemon, one day my friend, who, as mysterious as Doraemon's magic pocket itself, surprised me with an unexpected and clearly dramatic (as you would see) introduction to a delectable Japanese sweet. My pal, ever so full of his surprises, reached into his magic pocket (errr.... I mean lunch container) and pulled out (dramatic music here) the DORAYAKI! Actually there were three of them...  "IS THAT THE DORAYAKI?!!!!!" "Yeah." REALLY??? "IT IS?????!!!!!" I really went wild. Up until now, I had been informed that the dorayaki was in fact the favourite snack of that fictional character Doraemon, of which I had only recently gotten acquainted with.

I was intrigued and fascinated by many aspects of Doraemon. I had heard of his favourite dessert and knew of its existence. However, I had never expected to see the treat in real life, much less taste it. But there it was. Right in front of me. The genuine, authentic item. The real deal. To my amazement, my mysterious buddy was generous enough to offer me one of his Dorayaki. It was wrapped in a little plastic pack, which I promptly opened up in delight. I picked the snack up and munched away. I relished every bite. The idea that I was eating something of which I had only heard of in that Japanese cartoon Doraemon made it all the more enjoyable. Several other times, my pal was again, nice enough to offer me a few more of the Dorayaki. And each and every time, I ate it enthusiastically...

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Talk:Windsor–Detroit International Freedom Festival

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WHat the F? Is this true? RESPOND. RESPOND.

Filled out some of the basic details so this page even qualified to be a stub. I don't know about the veracity of the original version, so I kept it.--AviDrissman 30 June 2005 02:56 (UTC)

I don't think this is the name
I am a Windsor resident. While the events of the former International Freedom Festival remain (Detroit-Windsor or Windsor-Detroit was not part of the name as I recall it), the name itself has been removed from the late-June event on at least one side of the river, and probably both sides, for years now. I was out of the country during the years that it lost its name, so I was quite disappointed when I returned, because I thought the name International Freedom Festival said something about the relationship between our two cities and countries. Guess not. It's currently called Detroit River Days or GM River Days on the US side, and Windsor Summerfest on the Canada side. Both events are put on by companies called Parade (Windsor Parade Corporation in Canada, and The Parade Company in the US) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.48.199.166 (talk) 10:29, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Tone and focus
I can't believe that this hasn't been fixed, but the personal tone and focus is ridiculous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrePeltier (talk • contribs) 19:07, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


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Talk:AES

Move this to AES?
If you look at Special:Whatlinkshere/AES, you'll see that there are about 50 pages which link to AES, all of which are expecting Advanced Encryption Standard. Until those links are changed, AES should remain a redirect. Gdr 09:24, 2005 Apr 18 (UTC)

Oppose. violet/riga (t) 16:18, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. violet/riga (t) 14:08, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Someone moved it anyway, without bothering to update the links. We're fixing them slowly. — Matt Crypto 10:47, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Primary topic
I just prioritised the Advanced Encryption Standard entry by using alphab sort and split from science/tech as I expect it is almost (but not quite) a primary topic. In future, we may want to consider having AES as a primary topic redirect to Advanced Encryption Standard. Widefox ; talk 12:28, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smith Hinchman & Grylls

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Smith Hinchman & Grylls
Tagged as for two weeks, there is so little information about this company in this article that it looks like an ad. Zzyzx11 | Talk 01:39, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Without cleanup Delete Vegaswikian 06:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Without cleanup Delete Master Thief Garrett 07:16, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. If notable someone will create it and better. Pavel Vozenilek 09:29, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Call off your dogs, I just cleaned it up now. This is a pretty major company, history in this Architecture Week article. Please, could people just do a little research instead of just listing stuff because they haven't got a clue about it? --Tony Sidaway|Talk 17:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * It is NOT about whether it is notable or not! Please understand that! At the time of listing it looked like an ad. The User therefore did the right thing, WP does not allow ads. Whether or not it was about a valuable company is entirely immaterial, an article on Microsoft would be put up for Vfd if it looked like an ad, *unless* the article was cleaned up in the duration of the Vfd. Since you have cleaned it up, it is now fine. If the article had been at its current state at the time the User came across it, it would not have been listed for Vfd at all. I hope you understand. Have a nice day. Master Thief Garrett 02:04, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * If an article looks like an ad, edit it so it no longer looks like an ad. Is that so difficult? But on the subject of the article as originally listed, it said this:

 * Founded in Detroit, Michigan in 1853. Known as the first architectural firm in the U.S.
 * Continues practice under the name SmithGroup
 * Then there was a link to http://www.smithgroup.com/.
 * In other words a perfectly normal business stub giving the barest essential information on a corporation. This article was wrongly listed, and very nearly deleted because the deletion policy was not followed and nobody could be bothered to look beyond their nose. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 02:15, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Toby Gard

Toby Gard (born 8 June 1972) is an English video game character designer and consultant. He was part of the team that created fictional female British archaeologist Lara Croft. Lara Croft was awarded a Guinness World Record recognizing her as the "most successful human video game heroine".

1990s: From Tomb Raider to Confounding Factor
Toby Gard was born on 8 June 1972 in Chelmsford, Essex, England. He began his career in videogames in 1994 when he was hired by Core Design to work on the game BC Racers. From 1995 he was part of the team who designed and developed the original Tomb Raider video game along with the character Lara Croft. His work on the game included building and animating most of the game's characters (including Lara), animating the in-game cutscenes, storyboarding the FMVs, and managing the level designers. Core gave Gard creative control over the game, although it was clear they wanted to market Lara's sex appeal, even asking Gard to implement a nude code into the game, which he refused to do. His vision for Lara was "a female character who was a heroine, you know, cool, collected, in control, that sort of thing" and that "it was never the intention to create some kind of 'Page 3' girl to star in Tomb Raider".

Gard left Core Design in 1997. With Tomb Raider already an established hit, Core was no longer giving Gard the creative freedom he originally had. In the end, he was given the choice of making a Tomb Raider port for the Nintendo 64, or working on Core's vision for Tomb Raider II. Neither option appealed to him, so he left the company. Gard had been headhunted by other software companies including Interplay and Shiny Entertainment (which prematurely announced that it had hired Gard ) but did not take up their offers of employment.

In 1997, he formed the company Confounding Factor along with co-developer Paul Douglas, who had worked with Gard on Tomb Raider. Galleon was announced soon after. The game had a protracted development period and was released in 2004 on Microsoft's Xbox.

2000s: Return on Tomb Raider
After the closure of Confounding Factor, Gard was re-hired by Eidos (then publisher and copyright holder of the Tomb Raider series) to work with Crystal Dynamics on a reboot of the Tomb Raider franchise, beginning with Tomb Raider: Legend. While initially hired as a creative consultant, his work became "hands on" during the production and eventually included Lara's visual redesign, overseeing character design and creation, co-writing the story, designing and implementing parts of the character movement system, and directing the cinematics.

The next game in the series, Tomb Raider: Anniversary, was a re-imagining of the original Tomb Raider. It was co-developed by Crystal Dynamics and Buzz Monkey Software. Gard's role on Anniversary was limited to "story consultant", while also adding his voice to the audio commentary included in the game.

For Tomb Raider: Underworld, Gard's work included co-writing the story, directing the cinematics, voice direction, motion capture direction (along with camera setup and managing the animators and lighters), and directing the European TV advert for the game. Gard and Eric Lindstrom received a nomination for "Best Writing in a Video Game" by the Writers Guild of America for their work on Underworld.

2010s: Otherworld, Ninja Gaiden Z, and a new studio
From 2010 to 2012, he worked on a webcomic called Otherworld. From 2012 to 2014 Gard was the game director for Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z at Spark Unlimited.

In 2014 Gard founded a new studio called Tangentlemen, where he would work as director on Playstation VR title Here They Lie.

He has been the owner of Cathuria Games since 2019, where he worked on indie game Dream Cycle.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Somashiandan Software Solutions

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Somashiandan Software Solutions
Tagged as since January, it currently looks like an ad. Zzyzx11 | Talk 01:41, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Vegaswikian 06:59, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable, advert. Megan1967 07:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Southern California
Since you bring up the AP, see or any other story written by the AP about Southern California. The AP and every other news organization (as far as I can see), as well as my old college textbook on California geography (Rediscovering the Golden State by William A. Selby) use "Southern California", not "southern California." The reason is, I assume, that Southern California really is culturally distinct from the northern part of the state. What I meant by it being idiomatic is that you're absolutely right, the usage is not technically correct, but it's obviously an accepted usage, used not only by the general public but also by news editors, textbook writers, and other Wiki articles (see Southern California).--Plainsong 01:41, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Electronic Stability Control

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Electronic Stability Control: a fairly new technology that helps prevent crashes,  including rollovers, by helping the driver maintain stability of the vehicle. ESC uses sensors to compare where the driver is pointing the vehicle and where the vehicle is actually going. If there is a descrepancy, an individual brake is applied, engine toque reduced to align the vehicle with wher the driver is intending to go. In this way ESC corrects oversteer and understeer and helps prevent skidding or running off the road. ESC combines anti-lock brakes, traction control, and yaw control.

AAAAAAAAAAH :)
oh no! ESP isnt a brand of DaimlerChrysler!!

But it is a brand of an other Stuttgarter company, Bosch :)

Continental Teves provides ESC to the Chrysler 300C and Crossfire Coup.

http://www.contitevesna.com check out this link: http://www.bosch-esperience.com/

Page move
I think this page should be moved to Electronic Stability Control. The article itself says this is the more generic name several times. However, there seems to be a small technical problem preventing the move at the moment (the database seems to think the strings 'Electronic Stability Program'='Electronic Stability Control', but it might be something else). -- Solipsist 11:09, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * The destination had a history and that was preventing the move. I've fixed it now.  violet/riga (t) 13:19, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks violet/riga, for sorting that out. I've now also clarified the opening para to reflect the change of name.

However, there might be some wider naming issues at play here. The article still reads like the collision between several related articles, I've deleted some repeated passages, but there is more to be done. Although there were several comments that 'Electronic Stability Control' is the generic term, this might actually be an American naming issue. Is this the common term world wide?

In any case it would seem best not to have the main article discussing these sort of systens at the title that is a registered trade mark of one manufacturer. There could also be a case for restoring an early version of this page at Electronic Stability Program, limiting its discusion to the original Bosch system with an link here for the general explanation. -- Solipsist 14:19, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

While many makers of ESC use the name ESP, others use ESP to include more than just ESC. For example, Bendix, a supplier of ESP for commercial vehicles uses ESP to include ESC and RSC (Roll Stability Control) among other systems. Authorities in Europe and North America seem to me moving towards standardizing the terminoloty for ESC to distinguish it from Traction Control and other devices. It makes logical sense that ESP would be more all-inclusive as Bendix uses the term.

Citation or less subjective wording needed
"the perception of safety conferred by the ESC will encourage more dangerous driving, as seems to be the case with seat belts" - that "seems" a bit subjective. A citation of some study would help, though.

Avada Kedavra 12:57, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Check the ABS pages for some studies. personally I doubt that this is true for ESC, as so few people will actually set it off and so rely on it.

Greglocock 02:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

A citation is needed on the study that found 35% of crashes would be reduced. I doubt that any legitamite study of ESC would find such a result and perhaps its findings were misinterpreted. Like the person above, I doubt that even 35% of crashes involve loss of stability or sliding out of control (most are simply the result of driver inattention), so the idea that that many crashes could be completely avoided by a little electronic help is ridiculous.

74.130.236.184 22:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Have you seen the data? http://www.womanmotorist.com/index.php/news/main/5258/event=view/  for example

I don't believe it at a gut level, but there you go.

Greglocock 00:01, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Citations would help convince skeptics. I was skeptical until I saw how many studies show the profound effectiveness of ESC. There are literally dozens of studies, including real world crash studies, and they are all VERY positive. The IIHS studies are the most widely cited; however there are studies showing both lower and higher rates of crash reductions due to ESC. There are also studies focusing on different aspects of ESC, such as cost effectiveness or which types of crashes are most affected by ESC. Despite differences, I know of no negative studies.

The evidence in favour of ESC is quite overwhelming. There are no negatives studies. While some are more positive than others, and each study approaches the issue from a different angle, they are generally profound and amazing. Here is a link to an abstract of a literature review - the whole report is quite thorough.[]

Cost
According to an article by Jason Roberson in the Detroit Free Press, Oct 20 2006, an ESC system costs the car manufacturers about $US 110

Greglocock 22:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Criticisms
Someone has rightly pinged this section with weasel. It seems to be an overlong representation of various unsupported assertions about how dangerous it might be, followed by a schizophrenic section saying that it should be fitted to every car. Would anyone object if I edited the first part down to a single short para on risk compensation thory, and then a short rebuttal referencing the studies that have been done, and perhaps a tidied version of the whinge about it not being compulsory? Greg Locock (talk) 06:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the section is also a case of undue weight and could apply to any safety feature. I'm going to edit the section down to something saner but I wouldn't oppose a full removal. BJ Talk 10:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * After completely reading it I just removed it. All it asserted was a non-notable group and "driving enthusiasts" dislike the feature, of course non of that was cited. BJ Talk 10:40, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Electronic Brakeforce Distribution
EDB is quite different from ESC and should not be merged with the ESC article. Better to leave it as a "See Also" along with ABS and Traction Control. Each of these four devices serves a different purpose and responds to different inputs. To understand the differences, check out this website.[]

From moved page talk
EBD is a different technology to ESC, they should not be merged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Julesarian (talk • contribs) 13:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Proposed merge
No, the electronic brake distribution should be merged with ABS ,not this page. Greglocock 23:59, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

ABS, EBD and vehicle stability control use same sensors and acuators, than they can be merge in one topic of Electronic Brake System --Jaffar Alasmawi (talk) 20:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

 * They share some components, not all. Greglocock (talk) 01:29, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

It can reasonably be argued that Traction Control, Stability Control, Active Roll-over Protection, Cornering Brake Control, Electronic Brake-force Distribution, and Brake Assist are all descendants of ABS. That might mean they belong on the same family tree, but it doesn't mean any of them need to be merged. Would you deliberately conjoin any of your relatives to yourself or to any other relatives? 09:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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2004 United States presidential election in Connecticut

The 2004 United States presidential election in Connecticut took place on November 2, 2004, and was part of the 2004 United States presidential election. Voters chose seven representatives, or electors to the Electoral College, who voted for president and vice president.

Connecticut was won by Democratic nominee John Kerry by a margin of 10.4%. Prior to the election, all 12 news organizations considered this a state Kerry would win, or otherwise considered as a safe blue state. In presidential elections, Connecticut is usually expected to fall into the Democrats' electoral vote column, as no Republican has won the state since Bush's father George H. W. Bush in 1988. Although Connecticut was the birth state of George W. Bush, and the Bush family does have a house in the state, Connecticut was never considered competitive in 2004. This is the only election since 1968 in which the Republican nominee won the popular vote without carrying Connecticut, and the only election ever in which a Republican won two terms without ever carrying the state. As of 2020, this is the most recent election where Connecticut voted more Democratic than California and Hawaii.

To date, this was the most recent presidential election in which the Republican nominee carried the towns of Bethel, Cheshire, and Madison. Bush became the first ever Republican to win without carrying the towns of Redding and Simsbury, the first to win without winning the town of Essex since that town was founded in 1852, the first to win without the town of Lyme since 1872, and the first to win without the town of Roxbury since 1904.

Primaries

 * 2004 Connecticut Democratic presidential primary

Predictions
There were 12 news organizations who made state-by-state predictions of the election. Here are their last predictions before election day.

Polling
Kerry won every single pre-election poll. The final 3 poll averaged Kerry leading 52% to 42% for Bush and 2% for Nader.

Fundraising
Bush raised $4,256,438. Kerry raised $4,195,038.

Advertising and visits
Neither campaign visited or advertised in this state during the fall campaign.

Analysis
All counties but Litchfield County and congressional districts went Democratic. Litchfield County is regarded as the most conservative county in the state, along with adjacent Fairfield County to the south, although this county does tend to vote majority Democratic. Hartford County, Middlesex County, New Haven County, and New London County each are regarded as the most loyally democratic counties in Connecticut. The Republican Party's last presidential victory in Connecticut was during the 1988 election of George H. W. Bush. However, Kerry's victory in Connecticut was not as large as Al Gore's lead in 2000, when the then-vice president won the state by 17.47% percent and a majority of all the state's counties. However, in 2000 Gore's running mate was Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman.

George W. Bush lost Connecticut decisively even though he was born in New Haven and is part of a family that has been a political dynasty in Connecticut for much of the 20th century. Despite his family background, as a presidential candidate Bush was considered a Texan and largely perceived as a Southern candidate, and consequently he had little appeal to voters in Northeastern states like Connecticut. Ironically, despite not winning his own birth state, Bush did win Colorado, Kerry's birth state, making this the only presidential election since 1864 where no candidate was able to win their state of birth.

By county
[[File:Connecticut County Flips 2004.svg|thumb|County Flips:

Democratic {{legend|#92c5de|Hold}}

Republican {{legend|#ca0120|Gain from Democratic}} ]]

Counties that flipped from Democratic to Republican

 * Litchfield (largest municipality: Torrington)

By congressional district
Kerry won all 5 congressional districts, including three held by Republicans.

Electors
Technically the voters of Connecticut cast their ballots for electors: representatives to the Electoral College. Connecticut is allocated 7 electors because it has 5 congressional districts and 2 senators. All candidates who appear on the ballot or qualify to receive write-in votes must submit a list of 9 electors, who pledge to vote for their candidate and his or her running mate. Whoever wins the majority of votes in the state is awarded all 7 electoral votes. Their chosen electors then vote for president and vice president. Although electors are pledged to their candidate and running mate, they are not obligated to vote for them. An elector who votes for someone other than his or her candidate is known as a faithless elector.

The electors of each state and the District of Columbia met on December 13, 2004, to cast their votes for president and vice president. The Electoral College itself never meets as one body. Instead the electors from each state and the District of Columbia met in their respective capitols.

The following were the members of the Electoral College from Connecticut. All were pledged to John Kerry and John Edwards:
 * 1) Elizabeth O'Neill
 * 2) Andrea J. Jackson-Brooks
 * 3) Donna King
 * 4) Larry Pleasant
 * 5) David J. Papandrea
 * 6) Andres Ayala
 * 7) Joshua King


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KTS

KTS/Kts may refer to:
 * Keirsey Temperament Sorter, a self-assessed personality questionnaire
 * Key telephone system
 * Klippel–Trénaunay syndrome in medicine
 * Knight of the Military Order of the Tower and Sword of Portugal
 * The Knights Templar School, a secondary school in Baldock, Hertfordshire, England
 * Knot (unit), a unit of speed equal to one nautical mile per hour
 * Brevig Mission Airport (IATA: KTS)
 * Potassium thiosulfate, a chemical compound commonly abbreviated as KTS.
 * Københavns Tekniske Skole, a school of secondary education in Copenhagen, Denmark
 * Kagoshima Television, a Japanese commercial TV station

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Talk:KTXH

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You could always expand it. Pufferfish101 01:43, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

My20 Logo
Some_Person's My20 logo is of low quality. Could someone kindly upload a higher quality logo?
 * I agree. It's been far too long with

Image:KTXH mntv.jpg
I have removed the above image from the history section of the article because it's redundant and doesn't really reflect a logo that was used at any time, at least the way we're defining it. Although this jeopardizes its fair use status, I would strongly recommend it not be deleted as an orphan, because we may need it later if the current version is deemed unsatisfactory in any way. Morgan Wick 03:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 216.190.135.175 recently re-added the logo with an edit summary of: (That logo was in fact used on KTXH for a couple of days.) Okay. However, a) is a logo used for only "a couple of days" notable enough to be in the article, especially when b) it is fundamentally essentially a 2D version of another logo that's in 3D but otherwise the same? I'd like your opinions on this! Morgan Wick 21:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The logos are similiar, but not exactly the same. Yes, they both say "My20". Yes, they both have the blue and grey checkered pattern. But one is a 2D logo which only has 6 colors, while the other one is a 3D logo which has many colors. Both were broadcasted on KTXH, but not at the same time. In the "Logos" section, the 2D logo has the summary '"My20" logo, in use since June 2006'. This is not correct, as the 2D logo has not been broadcasted on KTXH since early June. Since the 2D logo has obviously been discontinued, I suggest that they should be treated as seperate. Some Person 2:24 PM, July 21 2006 (CST)
 * Okay, so some explanation in the article or captions might be needed. Personally, I still fail to see how an adjustment from 2D to 3D is sufficient to be considered separate logos, when the 2D version was so incredibly short-lived. This sort of "every one-pixel change is a separate logo" thing is a bit too widespread on Wikipedia, in my view. Morgan Wick 16:35, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I say it is sufficient, as the logos are not the same. The 2D logo was short-lived, but it was still a logo on My20. And, it is no longer broadcasted. I certainly agree that a few pixels worth of change is not considered a new logo. However, more than just a few pixels are different. The 2D logo has many fewer colors and is much less detailed. So I still think that the logos should both be seperate and still on Wikipedia. Some Person 9:26 PM, July 27 2006 (CST)
 * I was exaggerating for effect. In a few years, no one will even remember a few short days it may have used a 2D logo. Some people might not have seen it at all. It's not like that many people are watching UPN as it begins to dissolve, and it's not like anyone watches at all the crap these stations put on in non-network time. It's a footnote, most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I would, and you of course would, but... it's not just the lack of change, it's how short-lived one version was. Morgan Wick 07:11, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

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Distributed denial-of-service attacks on root nameservers

Distributed denial-of-service attacks on root nameservers are Internet events in which distributed denial-of-service attacks target one or more of the thirteen Domain Name System root nameserver clusters. The root nameservers are critical infrastructure components of the Internet, mapping domain names to IP addresses and other resource record (RR) data.

Attacks against the root nameservers could, in theory, impact operation of the entire global Domain Name System, and thus all Internet services that use the global DNS, rather than just specific websites. However, in practice, the root nameserver infrastructure is highly resilient and distributed, using both the inherent features of DNS (result caching, retries, and multiple servers for the same zone with fallback if one or more fail), and, in recent years, a combination of anycast and load balancer techniques used to implement most of the thirteen nominal individual root servers as globally distributed clusters of servers in multiple data centers.

In particular, the caching and redundancy features of DNS mean that it would require a sustained outage of all the major root servers for many days before any serious problems were created for most Internet users, and even then there are still numerous ways in which ISPs could set their systems up during that period to mitigate even a total loss of all root servers for an extended period of time: for example by installing their own copies of the global DNS root zone data on nameservers within their network, and redirecting traffic to the root server IP addresses to those servers. Nevertheless, DDoS attacks on the root zone are taken seriously as a risk by the operators of the root nameservers, and they continue to upgrade the capacity and DDoS mitigation capabilities of their infrastructure to resist any future attacks.

An effective attack against DNS might involve targeting top-level domain servers (such as those servicing the .com domain) instead of root name servers. Alternatively, a man-in-the-middle attack or DNS poisoning attack could be used, though they would be more difficult to carry out.

October 21, 2002
On October 21, 2002 an attack lasting for approximately one hour was targeted at all 13 DNS root name servers. The attackers sent many ICMP ping packets using a botnet to each of the servers. However, because the servers were protected by packet filters which were configured to block all incoming ICMP ping packets, they did not sustain much damage and there was little to no impact on Internet users.

February 6, 2007
On February 6, 2007 an attack began at 10:00 UTC and lasted twenty-four hours. At least two of the root servers (G-ROOT and L-ROOT) reportedly "suffered badly" while two others (F-ROOT and M-ROOT) "experienced heavy traffic". The latter two servers largely mitigated the damage by distributing requests to other root server instances with anycast addressing. ICANN published a formal analysis shortly after the event.

Due to a lack of detail, speculation about the incident proliferated in the press until details were released.

November 30, 2015
During two intervals on November 30, 2015 and December 1, 2015, several of the root name servers received up to 5 million queries per second each, receiving valid queries for a single undisclosed domain name and then a different domain the next day. Source addresses were spread throughout IPv4 space, however these may have been spoofed. Some root server networks became saturated, resulting in timeouts, however redundancy among the root servers prevented downstream issues from occurring during this incident.

Operation Global Blackout 2012
On February 12, 2012, a statement was posted on Pastebin cited to be from Anonymous, threatening an attack on the root servers on March 31, 2012.

"To protest SOPA, Wallstreet, our irresponsible leaders and the beloved bankers who are starving the world for their own selfish needs out of sheer sadistic fun, On March 31, anonymous will shut the Internet down," reads the statement. "Remember, this is a protest, we are not trying to ‘kill' the Internet, we are only temporarily shutting it down where it hurts the most…It may only last one hour, maybe more, maybe even a few days. No matter what, it will be global. It will be known."


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bulbapedia

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. — Xezbeth 19:43, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

Bulbapedia
Vanity. ✏ Oven Fresh ²  01:46, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep I see no reason to delete it. I created the article mostly because it was already linked to, also I have seen articles for other wikis on Wikipedia.  Just because Bulbapedia is relatively new doesn't make this a vanity article.  I say it stays.  Jeff02 03:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Actually, if you use the "what links here" tool, you'll find that no other articles link to it besides the List of wikis, VfD pages, and Jeff02's user page. (Did you mean something else by "already linked to?") The entry on List of wikis ought to be enough for a relatively new Wiki. android↔talk 04:23, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable, website promo. Megan1967 08:01, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, WP:WIN. Radiant_* 15:18, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment Just to clarify, I know this is not a place to advertise, and I am not trying to. I just saw the link in list of wikis and decided to add the article.  I'm new here and I don't want anyone to get the wrong impression of me.Jeff02 20:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, unfourtunately. I had no idea it was on the list of wikis, so I think that's adequate.  There's really not much to say about it, to be honest. MToolen 00:40, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * keep please, please, please (Ryan) — (Ryan is 4.4.46.192; his first edit.)
 * Merge into pokemon (if notable), delete rest. Pavel Vozenilek 02:33, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I can't understand, this is a separate Wiki of its own, why talk about it here? Its content is ever-changing, it's not like Encyclopaedia Britannica where you can detail each edition and whatnot. If anything, list it on one of the "lists of Pokemon" pages. It appears to me that you two are wanting this to be kept here purely as an advertisement. I'm sorry, but that is not the purpose of Wikipedia. Master Thief Garrett 07:20, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep if other Wikis have articles; otherwise, delete. Ketsy 19:31, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Somesh jena

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Somesh jena
Tagged as since January. I cannot find anything that is notable about this person. Zzyzx11 | Talk 01:46, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable, possible vanity. Megan1967 08:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I had forgotten about this. Still non-notable. jni 08:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Pavel Vozenilek 09:29, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Stephen Kim Sou-hwan

Stephen (often rendered as Latin Stephanus) Kim Sou-hwan (May 8, 1922 – February 16, 2009) was a cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church and the former archbishop of Seoul, South Korea. Having been an iconic figure in South Korea's bloody and tumultuous transition from military rule to democracy, he was widely respected across all sections in South Korean society.

Early years
He was born in Daegu, modern-day South Korea, and attended high school in Seoul. He studied philosophy at Sophia University in Tokyo from 1941 to 1944, and at Catholic University of Korea in Seoul from 1947 to 1951, when he graduated. After serving briefly as a parish priest in Andong and then as a secretary in the Archdiocese of Daegu, he traveled to Germany to study sociology at Münster University from 1956 to 1963.

Career
Kim was raised to the rank of cardinal-priest of San Felice da Cantalice a Centocelle by Pope Paul VI in the consistory of April 28, 1969, having become the archbishop of Seoul in 1968 after being the bishop of Masan since 1966. At the age of 46, he was the youngest member of the College of Cardinals at that time. He received the Mugunghwa medal in 1970, and participated in the two conclaves of 1978.

During Park Chung Hee and his successor's military dictatorship of the '70s and the '80s, the Korean Catholic Church under Kim's leadership was highlighted as a focal point of South Korea's democratization movement.

In 1998, Cardinal Kim retired as the archbishop of Seoul, shortly after serving as president-delegate of the Special Assembly for Asia of the World Synod of Bishops. On the death of Franz Koenig in 2004, he became the senior member of the college in terms of service, as he was the first of the three surviving members elevated in 1969 on the list of that consistory. However, Kim was ill at the time, and in the ceremonies of the sede vacante on the death of Pope John Paul II, the duties of protopresbyter (senior cardinal priest) were instead carried out by Eugenio de Araujo Sales, another 1969 cardinal who was Kim's junior as cardinal but senior as a priest and as a bishop.

Having reached the age of 80 in 2002, he did not participate in the ensuing conclave as he was no longer eligible to vote in papal elections. Cardinal Kim did arrive for the papal inauguration of Pope Benedict XVI and there he did discharge the duties of the cardinal protopresbyter.

Death
From 2007, Kim's health gradually deteriorated, and he was seldom seen in public, the last time being the 2008 Christmas Midnight Mass at Myeongdong Cathedral. He died in Seoul on February 16, 2009, from respiratory problems. During a four-day lying in state period some 400,000 Catholic mourners were said to have filed past his coffin in the city's Myeongdong Cathedral. He was buried on February 20. As per his will, he donated his organs, and the Cardinal's eyes were quickly used in two successful cornea transplants.

Written

 * 이 땅에 평화를 - 김수환 추기경과의 대화, 1988 ISBN 6000324367
 * 참으로 사람답게 살기위하여 - 김수환 추기경의 세상 사는 이야기 (사람과 사람, 1998) ISBN 9788985541022
 * 우리가 서로 사랑한다는 것, 1999 ISBN 9788985541527
 * 너희와 모든 이를 위하여, 1999 ISBN 9788985541534

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May 16 (Eastern Orthodox liturgics)

May 15 - Eastern Orthodox Church calendar - May 17

All fixed commemorations below celebrated on May 29 by Orthodox Churches on the Old Calendar.

For May 16th, Orthodox Churches on the Old Calendar commemorate the Saints listed on May 3.

Saints

 * Hieromartyr Alexander of Jerusalem, Archbishop (251)
 * Saint Papylinus the Martyr
 * Martyrs Bachtisius, Isaac and Symeon of Persia (339)
 * Saint Theodore the Sanctified of Tabennisi, disciple of Saint Pachomios the Great (367)
 * Martyrs Abda (Audas) and Abdjesus (Audiesus) the Bishops, Benjamin, and 38 other martyrs at Beth-Kashkar in the Persian Empire, under Ardashir II (375), including:
 * 16 priests, 9 deacons, 6 monks, and 7 unnamed virgins.

 * Saint Neadius (Neadios), Bishop and Wonderworker.
 * Saint Bardas, founder of the monastery of the Forerunner in Petra, Constantinople (5th-6th century)
 * Martyrdom of the 44 Holy Sabaite fathers, monk-martyrs of the Great Lavra of St. Sabbas the Sanctified, massacred by the Saracens (610 or 614)
 * Martyr Peter of Blachernae (761)
 * Saint Thomas I, Patriarch of Jerusalem (820)
 * Saint George of Mitylene, Bishop (821 or 842)
 * Saint Nicholas Mystikos, Patriarch of Constantinople (925)

Pre-Schism Western saints

 * Saint Fort (Fort de Bordeaux), first Bishop of Bordeaux in France, venerated as a martyr (c. 1st century?)
 * Saint Peregrinus, Bishop of Terni (138)
 * Saint Peregrine of Auxerre, martyr, the first bishop of Auxerre and the builder of its first cathedral (261 or 304)
 * Martyrs Felix and Gennadius, at Uzalis in Africa
 * Martyrs Vitus, Modestus, and Crescentia at Lucania (c. 303)
 * Saint Hilary, Bishop of Pavia, one of the bishops in the north of Italy who fought against Arianism (376)
 * Saint Possidius, Bishop of Calama in Numidia in North Africa, a friend of Saint Augustine of Hippo (c. 370 - c. 440)
 * Saint Primael, ascetic, from Britain, he went to Brittany and became a hermit near Quimper (c. 450)
 * Blessed child-saint Musa of Rome (5th century)
 * Saint Carantac (Carantog, Caimach, Carnath), Welsh prince who aided St Patrick in the enlightenment of Ireland (5th century)
 * Saint Fidolus (Phal), Abbot at Isle-Aumont, south of Troyes (c. 540 - 549)
 * Saint Germerius, Bishop of Toulouse in France for fifty years (560)
 * Saint Brendan the Navigator, abbot of Clonfert (c. 577)
 * Saint Domnolus, Bishop of Le Mans (581)
 * Saint Carantoc, an abbot who founded the church of Llangrannog in Wales (6th century)
 * Saint Honoratus of Amiens, the seventh bishop of Amiens (c. 600)
 * Saint Annobert (Alnobert), a monk at Almenêches, consecrated Bishop of Séez in France (c. 689)
 * Saint Franchy (Francovæcus), a monk at St Martin de la Bretonnière in France, later a hermit in the Nivernais (Diocese of Nevers) (7th century)

Post-Schism Orthodox saints

 * Saints Cassian (1537) and Laurence (1548), disciples of Venerable Cornelius of Komel, Abbots of Komel ("Korneliev" Monastery), Vologda.
 * New Hieromartyr Teodor (Nestorović) of Vršac, Bishop of Vršac in Banat, Serbia (1595)
 * New Martyr Nicholas of Metsovo, at Trikala, whose relics are at Meteora (1617)

New martyrs and confessors

 * Venerable Hieromonk Matthew of Yaransk the Wonderworker ( 'Mitrophan Kuzmich Zvetsov' ) (1927)
 * New Martyr Vukasin of Serbia, under the Ustashi terrorists (1941)

Other commemorations

 * Foundation of the church of Saint Euphemia, near the Neorion (port facilities), by the Dolmabahçe Palace of Constantinople.
 * Translation of the relics (1545) of Saint Ephraim, Abbot of Perekop, Wonderworker of Novgorod (1492)
 * Commemoration of Saint Macarius (Notaras) of Corinth (1805) in the village of Myloi, Samos island.

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Galápagos Islands xeric scrub

The Galápagos Islands xeric scrub, also known as the Galápagos Islands scrubland mosaic, is a terrestrial deserts and xeric shrublands ecoregion that covers the Galápagos Islands. The Galápagos Islands are volcanic in origin, and remote from continents and other islands. The ecoregion is well known for its unique endemic species, including giant tortoises, birds, and marine iguanas, which evolved in isolation to adapt to islands' environments.

Geography
The Galápagos Islands lie in the Pacific Ocean, about 960 km west of the South American mainland. They are politically part of Ecuador.

The Galápagos archipelago consists of 128 named islands. There are 13 islands larger than 10 km2, 19 larger than 1 km2, 42 islets smaller than 1 km2, and at least 26 emergent rocks. The total land area of the archipelago is 8032 km2. Isabela is the largest and highest island, with an area of 4,588 km2 and reaching an elevation of 1,707 meters.

The islands are volcanic in origin, formed by the Galápagos hotspot. The eastern islands are generally older, dating back 3 to 6 million years, while the western islands are less than 1 million years old. Surface geology consists of volcanic rock, typically basalt, and includes pumice, ash, and tuff ejected from volcanoes. The landscape has volcanic features like crater lakes, lava fields, lava tubes, fumaroles, and sulfur vents. Soils are generally young and thin.

Four islands – Isabela, Santa Cruz, San Cristóbal, and Floreana – are permanently inhabited. The islands have approximately 30,000 permanent residents. There are docks on all the inhabited islands, and an airport on San Cristóbal. Baltra Island has an airport, military base, tourism dock, and fuel facilities.

Climate
The climate is tropical, oceanic, and semi-arid, influenced by the annual movements of ocean currents. There are two main seasons. The dry or garúa (misty) season generally lasts from May to December, influenced by the cool Humboldt Current coming from the south. The dry season is characterized by cooler temperatures and lower rainfall. Mist and drizzling rain, known as garúa, occurs during this season, particularly in the highlands. August is typically the coolest and driest month, with temperatures as low as 18°C and as little as 5 mm of rainfall.

The hot and wet season extends December to May, influenced by the warm Panama Current from the north shifting to surround the islands. This season brings warmer temperatures and higher rainfall. March is typically the warmest and wettest month, with temperatures as high as 30°C and as much as 80 mm of rainfall.

Temperature and rainfall vary with elevation, creating a range of microclimates on the higher islands. Average annual temperature declines an average of 0.9°C for every 100 meters of elevation, and rainfall increases. Average annual rainfall for the archipelago is 356 mm at sea level and 1,092 mm at 200 meters elevation.

Flora
Most of the Galápagos is covered in semi-desert vegetation, including shrublands, grasslands, and dry forest. A few of the islands have high-elevation areas with cooler temperatures and higher rainfall, which are home to humid-climate forests and shrublands, and montane grasslands, or pampas, at the highest elevations. There are about 500 species of native vascular plants on the islands, including 90 species of ferns. About 180 vascular plant species are endemic.

Coastal plant communities are generally low-growing shrubs and herbs which are tolerant of drought and salt spray. Typical plants include the shrubs saltbush (Cryptocarpus pyriformis) and Maytenus octagona. Herbaceous seashore plants include the widespread beach morning glory (Ipomoea pes-caprae) and Sesuvium portulacastrum, and the endemic Galápagos carpet weed (Sesuvium edmonstonei).

Mangroves grow in calm inlets and lagoons. Typical species include red mangrove (Rhizophora mangle), black mangrove (Avicennia germinans), and white mangrove (Laguncularia racemosa) and button mangrove (Conocarpus erectus).

The arid zone lies inland of the coastal zone and extends to 200 meters elevation or higher. It covers most of the archipelago. It includes trees, shrubs, cacti, and herbs adapted to dry conditions. Common trees include the palo santo (Bursera graveolens) and paga paga (Pisonia floribunda), and the endemic trees guayabillo (Psidium galapageium) and Bursera malacophylla, which is found only on Seymour, Baltra and Daphne islands. Cacti include several endemic species of Opuntia – Opuntia echios, O. helleri, and others – and the endemic genera Jasminocereus and Brachycereus. Ground cover plants include low shrubs, like the endemic bitterbush (Castela galapageia) and species of the endemic genus Lecocarpus, and herbaceous plants. Herbaceous arid zone species include the endemic species in genera Tiquilia and Euphorbia section Chamaesyce, Galápagos tomato (Solanum galapagense), and stinking passion flower (Passiflora foetida).

On islands that reach higher elevations, there is transition zone between the arid and humid zones between 200 and 300 meters elevation. Transition zone plants include Pisonis floribunda and Psidium galapageium at lower elevations, and P. galapageium with Scalesia trees closer to the humid zone.

The humid zone lies above 300 meters elevation. It has higher rainfall than lower-elevation areas, and the dry-season garua fogs reduce plants' loss of moisture through evaporation and provide some moisture from condensation. Woodlands of Scalesia trees, 5 to 15 meters tall, are predominant from 300 to 500 meters elevation, with over 20 species of the endemic genus across the high islands of the archipelago. The low tree cat's claw (Zanthoxylum fagara) is most abundant between 500 and 600 meters elevation, in the transition between the Scalesia woodlands below and the Miconia shrublands above. The shrub Miconia robinsoniana is predominant between 600 and 700 meters elevation, particularly on Santa Cruz and San Cristóbal islands, forming shrublands 3 to 4 meters high.

High-elevation grasslands, known as pampa, are found above 900 meters elevation. The pampa is lush with grasses, ferns, sphagnum moss, and orchids. 11 species of orchids are found here, including the endemic species Cranichis lichenophila, Cyclopogon werffii, Epidendrum spicatum, and Ponthieva insularis, along with Cranichis ciliata, Cranichis werffii, Govenia gardneri, Habenaria alata, Habenaria distans, Habenaria monorrhiza, Ionopsis utricularioides, Liparis nervosa, Prescottia oligantha, and Tropidia polystachya. The endemic tree fern Cyathea weatherbyana is a pampa native.

Fauna
The Galápagos is home to many endemic species of reptiles, birds, mammals, land snails, insects.

There are 19 resident seabird species, including five endemic species. Endemic seabirds include the Galapagos penguin (Spheniscus mendiculus), waved albatross (Phoebastria irrorata), flightless cormorant (Nannopterum harrisi), swallow-tailed gull (Creagrus furcatus), and lava gull (Leucophaeus fuliginosus). The Waved albatross (Phoebastria irrorata) can be found on the coasts of mainland South America but breeds only on the Galapagos Islands and Isla de la Plata.

The islands are home to 29 native species of land birds, 24 of which are endemic. Endemic species include the Galapagos hawk (Buteo galapagoensis), Galapagos dove (Zenaida galapagoensis), Galapagos rail (Laterallus spilonota), Galápagos martin (Progne modesta), and four species of mockingbirds from genus Nesomimus. There are about 18 distinct species of endemic tanagers on the island, collectively known as Darwin's finches.

There are 22 endemic reptile species in the Galápagos. Notable species include the giant Galápagos tortoise (Chelonoidis niger ), which evolved 15 distinct subspecies, of which 13 remain. Other endemic reptiles include the marine iguana (Amblyrhynchus cristatus) and three species of snakes, the Galápagos racer (Pseudalsophis biserialis), Pseudalsophis dorsalis, and Pseudalsophis slevini.

There are nine known species of terrestrial mammals – four surviving and three extinct species of rice rats, and two species of bats.

The four surviving species of rice rat live on uninhabited islands – Nesoryzomys fernandinae and Nesoryzomys indefessus narboroughi on Fernandina, Nesoryzomys swarthi on Santiago, and Aegialomys galapagoensis on Santa Fé. The other species were driven to extinction by competition with introduced black rats (Rattus rattus).

The hoary bat (Lasiurus cinereus) is an insect-eating species that roosts on mangroves and shrubs. It is found on Santa Cruz, San Cristóbal, Isabela, Santiago, and Floreana. The Galápagos red bat (Lasiurus blossevillii brachyotis) inhabits Santa Cruz and San Cristóbal, where feeds near the ground on insects.

Conservation and threats
Most of the islands' land and marine area is permanently protected. Invasive species are considered the greatest current threat to the Galápagos' native animals and plants. Non-native species compete with native ones for habitat, and some prey on natives unadapted to predation. Non-native species have been introduced since the islands were first visited by humans, and the islands' growing human population and increasing movement of goods and people to the islands are introducing new non-native species at a high rate.

Protected areas
97% of the islands' land area is in Galápagos National Park, which was created in 1959. Human settlements are limited to the remaining 3% of the islands, located on the four permanently inhabited islands. Access to the uninhabited islands is strictly controlled, and visitor numbers and itineraries are limited and planned by authorities. Approximately 170,000 people visit the islands each year.

In 1986, the Galápagos Marine Reserve was created, with an area of 70,000 km2. In 1998, the marine reserve was enlarged to 133,000 km2.

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Lake Hitchcock

Lake Hitchcock was a glacial lake that formed approximately 15,000 years ago in the late Pleistocene epoch. After the Laurentide Ice Sheet retreated, glacial ice melt accumulated at the terminal moraine and blocked up the Connecticut River, creating the long, narrow lake. The lake existed for approximately 3,000 years, after which a combination of erosion and continuing geological changes likely caused it to drain. At its longest, Lake Hitchcock stretched from the moraine dam at present-day Rocky Hill, Connecticut, to St. Johnsbury, Vermont (about 320 km). Although the rift valley through which the river flows above Rocky Hill actually continues south to New Haven, on Long Island Sound, the obstructing moraine at Rocky Hill diverted the river southeast to its present mouth at Old Saybrook.

Lake Hitchcock is an important part of the geology of Connecticut. It experienced annual layering of sediments, or varves: silt and sand in the summertime (due to glacial meltwater) and clay in the wintertime (as the lake froze). Analysis of varves along Canoe Brook in Vermont was conducted by John Ridge and Frederick Larsen, including radiocarbon dating of organic materials. Their research indicates that the lake formed sometime prior to around 15,600 years ago. Later, abrupt changes in sediment composition around 12,400 years ago appear to mark the initial breaching of the lake's dam. These varved lake deposits were later used by European settlers for brick-making. The lake was named after Edward Hitchcock (1793–1864), a geology professor from Amherst College who had studied it.

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Talk:Juggernaut

Request For Comment
Hey Everyone! I am here regarding the request for comment.

From Just my simple reading there appears to be a few people in this debate. User:CS42, User:Oscarthecat and an anonymous user. Firstly to the anonymous user, I do suggest you log in and get an account. It will increase your credibilty 20 fold. It is very easy, you don't even have to supply details about yourself or an email address. What it does do is allow other users to contact you if need be.

Secondly. Might I refer to the Wikipedia policy "Wikipedia is NOT a Dictionary. Anonymous user, I understand that it would seem relevant to include a definition or a "common use" of the word, But this is not a dictionary. If every country came and placed their own common use of the word "Juggernaut" the article would be full of different definitions irrelevant to what an encyclopedia is. This is not a place to collect the entire sum of human knoledge. BUT alas check out [The Urban Dictionary] It is a fantastic place to put all the different definitions for english words that differ amoung nations. Anyone can contribute and you'd be suprised what cerrazy words come up.

Thus Anonymous user, Ill have to ask that you resist the temptation to add the definition again, but go get yourself an account, as people as passionate as you are more than needed here at the Wikipedia. --DennyCrane 00:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

 * GourangaUK's Revert is Supported - --DennyCrane 11:33, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I eliminated the following:
"Author Alfred Elton van Vogt published a short story named "Juggernaut" in 1944. It's about a strange piece of metal which materialises in a man's room and subsequently causes the downfall of Earth's economy (as far as I can remember - I lost the book which held the story)."

Until someone can verify the information. Obviously the parenthetical is POV and unencyclopedic.

 * In the article, is that 45 feet high, or 45 feet long? --Mothperson 4 July 2005 01:23 (UTC)

 * According to Encarta, that's 45 feet high. I've clarified and fixed the gramatical mistake. ~CS 4 July 2005 01:36 (UTC)
 * Yikes! That's huge.  Thanks. --Mothperson 4 July 2005 01:40 (UTC)

Bizarre Vandalism
To the person who keep placing links to the Tesco store here, please could you refrain from making reverts. It's not relevant to the page, maybe you could mention it in a short sentence in the Tesco page itself? 81.130.185.75 07:47, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

For the record, the disputed paragraph is:
 * In the British media, this word is commonly used in reference to the supermarket Tesco. See Google search " tesco+juggernaut ".

It is a relevent "example" of a common use of the word, in the British media. A simple Google search of news articles demonstrates this across a wide variety of sources. It is common practise to give 'examples of common use' of words. It is certainly not vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.112.235.142 (talk • contribs)
 * Glad you're entering into discussion about the case to keep such an example in the Juggernaut article. I'm of the opinion that the article should explain how a mighty force should be described as a Juggernaut, but I think the need to mention Tesco is largely irrelevant and rather POV. --Oscarthecat[[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|]] 17:01, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

 * It is very likely the most common 'use' of the word in the uk right now -  like it or not. Wether or not you agree with the context of this useage, you can't deny it or cite my example as vandalism. Just because it is not listed in the OED does not invalidate my example. This is the wikipedia not the OED. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.112.235.142 (talk • contribs)

 * In my opinion it is totally irrelevant to include the Tescos reference on this page. Do you work for Tesco's maybe? Looks like a UK based broadband IP address? 81.130.185.75 08:10, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

 * The Tescos entrys seem to be mixed in with a number of clear attempts at vandalism - refering to Playstation & X-Men jokes so it's hard to take it seriously. I see there's also a similar story on the Tescos page itself but it stopped a few days ago. GourangaUK 10:26, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

 * The X-Men edits are actually half-legitimate. There is a prominant character called Juggernaut from the comic books, who is already coverd at Juggernaut (comics). The edits are less about vandalism, and more about fans not clicking on the disambiguation page before plugging the character into the wrong place. ~CS 14:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

 * There are a number of reasons why I felt deleted paragraph was innaporpriate for the article:
 * 1) The phrasing was unencyclopedic. The last line about Googling was added by the author to justify putting the reference in -- an argument best left for the talk page and absolutly innapororpate for the article itself.
 * 2) It is a specific use being treated as exclusive, when it is really only an example of a broader use. There probably should be a paragraph about modern use of the word Juggernaut meaining any large and unstopable force, but the Tescos line makes it sound like this modern use is exclusive to Tescos, which it is not.
 * 3) The article should not be a catalog of examples of this modern use of the word. There is nothing more notable about the "Tescos Juggernaut," than the "Starbucks Juggernaut" or the "Bush Campaign Juggernaut" or the "Harry Potter Juggernaut."  Furthermore, he modern use of the word is incidental, and information about it should be kept as brief as possible, in favor of the historical use.
 * 4) The British media may be on a trend where they have taken to calling Tescos a Juggernaut, but these trends come and go, and there is no indication that this use will have long-term notability.
 * 5) I'm not certain, but I believe that the phrase is an anti-Tescos remark by those who disaprove of Tescos' business practices. This needs to be recognized, or else it is POV.
 * 6) If it's such a common reference that it warrents inclution on Wikipedia, the appropriate place is in the Tescos article -- in an appropriate, NPOV way -- under the controvercy section. Juggernaut can be linked to from that page.  ~CS

Well put. You are welcome to re-edit my addition along those lines. Although i see no harm in the inclusion of an example of common use. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.112.252.127 (talk • contribs)

Maybe you can just say 'Tesco Juggernaut' in 'Tesco' page. You can also start a new subtitle '==common usage of juggernaut=='Carbonferum 00:10, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Carbonferum -- please discuss this Tescos stuff on the talk page before putting it back into the article. I feel like it has been discussed a great deal here, and the consensus has been pretty clear. If you'd like to argue the case, please address the above issues before putting it back into the article. We've been going around in circles on this statement for months already. ~CS 00:25, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Administrator intervention requested
Could an admin place a sprotect on this page, as it's being repeatedly vandalised by an anonymous user wanting some clause about Tesco in here. --Oscarthecat 07:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I am not willing to sprotect the page and stop anyone from editing because of one user who isn't really reverting enough. Please continue to be vigilant and revert. I've added this page to my watchlist and will revert/block/sprotect as necessary. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 18:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, fair enough. We've had to revert the same person from doing the same edit about 30 times this month.  It's rather tiresome.  Maybe they'll get bored soon. --Oscarthecat[[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|]] 19:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

30 times a month ≈ 1 time a day. That's not enough activity for a semiprotect really. I know it can get really annoying, but it's not worth locking anon/new users out for. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 21:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Page sprotected
I realise that technically speaking, there probably isn't enough activity to sprotect the page. But I'm sick of the fact that the only edits to this page are vandalism. But I've sprotected the page. Enough good people have wasted their time dealing with petty vandalism, I think. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 16:53, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you! ~CS 20:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Cheers : your flexibility re the sprotect guidelines is appreciated. --Oscarthecat[[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|]] 21:50, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I tried to make it in NPOV + statisfying the people who tried to edit the page 30+ times using 'Tesco Juggernaut'. I think stating it as a slang for UK media is appropriate, as this is a usage in UK media. Hope 86.112.252.127 will stop editing. --Carbonferum 00:30, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I reverted again -- let's have a discussion here before trying to add it again.
 * The generic statement you added -- dispite the problem with its use of non-standard English -- simply restates the opening sentence "any literal or metaphorical force regarded as unstoppable." This is not unique to the UK, to UK media, or to business practices.  It is simply someone making use of the primary use of the word, and is not notable enough to have an entire sub-section devoted to it. ~CS 01:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Agree per CS42. Let's discuss here before adding references to Tesco once again.  The Tesco reference appears to be quite irrelevant : why Tesco?  Could equally apply to  Microsoft, Google, or the USA even. --Oscarthecat[[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|]] 08:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

New plan to deal with this Tesco juggernaut stuff
OK, well, I have a new plan. Anyone who adds references to the whole Tesco/Juggernaut thing should have a template stuck on their talk page. Then if they add the reference again I'll block them. I don't care about timeframe here- if they've been warned once against this specific vandalism then they can be blocked, even if the two edits are months apart. What do you think of that, guys? Comments/suggestions? --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 08:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I believe that there are only three individuals putting the Tescos line in. One primary vandal posting from multiple  86.112.xxx.xxx IPs,  one anonymous user 213.40.131.66 who also characterized the Tescos removals as vandalism, and Carbonferum, whose heart was in the right place.  ~CS 09:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I'd do a range block but I can't block 65536 addresses... Hm. --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 17:14, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

 * It's 2 months now since the first report of vandalism, and it hasn't stopped yet. ?? Any new ideas? GourangaUK 11:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
It's been over a month and they (or he) havn't stopped yet with vandalism. Why not just lock/protect the page and have done with it? They wimped out on the Tescos page after just one or two trys, but are obviously not going away from this one. If they have a BT broadband connection then the IP address will vary each time. 82.163.63.228 14:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Still happening in 2009
It amazes me that this conversation dates back to 2006. I just came across the article today. Seems like attempts to stop that particular edit failed. Would it be wise to make a small section of current-day uses of the word where it can go and be done with it? Aforementioned Starbucks, etc. Boter (talk) 03:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the 'Large Truck' reference
This is a nice article, the Indian etymology of the word I never knew. I have lived in the UK for many a year, and have never heard anyone use 'Juggernaut' to describe a large truck - in the literal sense I mean, I am sure that the simile 'like a Juggernaut' has been used. I just think it is a shame that an otherwise relevant article has a picture of a truck due to some small section of the population of one small country that (apparently) uses this colloquialism. My 2c. Edzillion 23:13, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

 * You obviously never watched the very popular 1980s/90s children's TV show Pigeon Street, then! One of the major characters was a female lorry driver (then very unusual) and the song associated with her began: "Long distance Clara drives a juggernaut. Way down the motorway, to the busy port." As mentioned, this was a kids' programme, and so wouldn't have used deliberately obscure language. (I'm British, for what it's worth, and *do* use the word, albeit only very occasionally.) 81.159.58.45 (talk) 17:29, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

 * I can't speak to the actual usage in the UK, but it doesn't belong in this article anyway, it belongs on the disambiguation page linked to from the top of the article along with every OTHER use of Juggernaut (there are lots) aside from the one referenced in this article. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 15:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks, I hadn't spotted it in the disambig page before. Gouranga(UK) 20:47, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that "Juggernaut" is a term used only by a few in the UK for a large vehicle. I believe that this is the original meaning of the term. Certainly in New Zealand a juggernaut is any very large vehicle.124.197.15.138 (talk) 09:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

 * When modern semi-trailer trucks were introduced into Britain in the 1950's from the US, they were much bigger than the old small British trucks and perceived as dangerous and likely to crush all before them,  and someone gave them this name derived from the Indian source.  This usage for large trucks was apparently common in the 1960's but now rather retro.  Large trucks were never called this in Australia,  when I got books and magazines sent from England when I was young,  it was just about the only word I didn't know.Eregli bob (talk) 09:38, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

copied from the article (concerning pronounciation)
Just to let you know, I don't think that pronunciation sound file is  quite complete , kind of cuts short. 19:17, 25 November 2007 (UTC)76.26.40.115 (talk)
 * I checked this out and confirm the clip is rather short but it plays fine of some of my audio applications. - phi (talk) 16:49, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

That was in the middle of the article, so I moved it here.

Fallacy?
How is this a logical fallacy? 68.84.224.36 (talk) 22:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

British usage
I'm British. Age 55.

The word is common parlance for a very large truck or 'lorry'. Must have been in use for at least 30 or 40 years in this context.

A juggernaut is a genuine, if slang, synonym for a large haulage vehicle.

The ref to Tesco however in the UK is simply generic, applying to any overwhelming force, and is not at all particular to Tesco in British usage.

Steve A.

Yorkshire England —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.9.191.246 (talk) 16:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

This article reads as rather anti-British. Rather than being purely a figment of British invention, Hindu fanatics were widely regarded as throwing themselves under "Juggernaut's". The outside world could hardly have been blamed for such beliefs, given the bizarre and often bloody rituals of the Hindu devoted. This actual term wasn't in fact of British origin, either. It was invented by an American journalist! The 14th century isn't the colonial era!124.197.15.138 (talk) 09:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

 * While I agree there is a degree of British bias, your statement: "The outside world could hardly have been blamed for such beliefs, given the bizarre and often bloody rituals of the Hindu devoted," is the most biased uneducated thing I've read in a long time.24.190.34.219 (talk) 01:41, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

There's a problem also with the statement that this story was invented by colonials (so, say, 18th-19th century) and yet was described in the Travels of John Mandeville in the Middle Ages. 118.70.125.46 (talk) 04:17, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree. The Travels of John Mandeville date from between 1357 and 1371, and Jehan de Mandeville most likely never actually existed. The book itself is a hodgepodge of legend and myth mixed with descriptions lifted from other sources. Furthermore, I cannot find any mention of anything related to a juggernaut in any of the works attributed to him. This, and the lack of sources for statements made in the Etymology section, are disquieting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Philip72 (talk • contribs) 09:22, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

links
This page needs to be linked to ram, battering ram, and irresistible force. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petsteph (talk • contribs) 14:41, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I tried to take care of this while touching up the article.- phi (talk) 18:39, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Excess skepticism
There were just too many "says who" notes in here. I cannot believe all that skepticism is healthy. For example, there should be no need to question the consensus of a midnineteenth-century date for the figurative sense of this, since it is such a widely researched word. I hope I have improved on the article and hope you all will improve more on my improvements. - phi (talk) 18:35, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

"apocryphally"
I hope, of course, that the story of devotees throwing themselves under the wheels is apocryphal. The word 'apocryphal', though, is not supported by the linked source, which says "European travelers recounting this event told tales of worshippers being crushed in the chariot's path. Such stories were likely exaggerated, but accidents are reportedly common and occasionally pilgrims seized with religious frenzy may try to hurl themselves beneath the wagon's wheels." Perhaps the line should be changed to "an allegorical reference to the Hindu Ratha Yatra temple car, which was reputed, possibly apocryphally, to crush devotees under its wheels.  (I also wonder if a tertiary source like marthabarnette.com is an adequate source for Wiki).  --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 02:05, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Jekyll & Hyde reference
There is a disconnect between the following two statements:

 * The figurative sense of the English word, with the idea of "something that demands blind devotion or merciless sacrifice" became common in the mid-nineteenth century. For example, it was used to describe the out-of-control character Hyde in Robert Louis Stevenson's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

This suggests that Stevenson's use of the word was related to the foregoing sense. In fact Stevenson uses the word to describe Hyde knocking over a young girl while running at speed:

 * "...the man trampled calmly over the child's body and left her screaming on the ground. It sounds nothing to hear, but it was hellish to see. It wasn't like a man; it was like some damned Juggernaut."

 * "...that human juggernaut trod the child down and passed on regardless of her screams"

This is closer to the definition of juggernaut as a mercilessly destructive and unstoppable force than anything to do with blind devotion or sacrifice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccferrie (talk • contribs) 11:01, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Is there a relationship?
Not sure how to do this, but I'll just try opening this discussion and if it's bad procedure it'll get torpedoed or ignored and I won't be offended - please comment and discuss - Wikipedia is not the place for research but it is a good place to work on collecting known facts. OK, in thinking about the topic of "Juggernaut", I find a correlation between the ancient religious practice of a large cart carrying a figure (idol or govt. officer) and the modern army tank. I think anciently they used to build armored towers on wheels which could be rolled forward to attack a fortress. It could also be used against infantry or cavalry. The game of chess is an ancient battle simulation, and one of the pieces is the rook, which is shaped like a little armored tower, and in fact the king can run over and get "in" it for safety, and it also moves toward him to facilitate this. I think that ancient civilizations had these towers in war, and they paraded them at festivals etc. with maybe the king riding up there, to emphasize his power, which ultimately derived from military might. I seem to remember reading about the Romans using moving towers like this. DaVinci drew plans for an armored tank, and modern warfare has evolved in that direction. Is it possible this was not an entirely original invention in DaVinci's time? Can anyone provide further correlations or verfification? Would it be good to add some words or links or something, to note such correlations if we can identify them? It's obvious to me that some discussion here on the talk page would be less intrusive than just modifying the article. Friendly Person (talk) 18:53, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

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