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Talk:Winchester Model 1887/1901

Australian Copies
ADI manufactured a few M1887 copies in 1996/1997, but they were mechanically unreliable and there were distribution issues, especially as there was concern the shotguns might get reclassified into a restricted category.

As for June 2006, there are M1887 copies made by "CAI" of China available for sale in Australia, with a retail price of AUD$795.

Rewrite
The copy I read originally lacked somewhat. I went through and rewrote it. For some reason, somebody had a picture of an 1886? or 1873? rifle instead of an 1887 shotgun, so I posted the correct picture. My new article isn't perfect, but I think it does much more justice to the subject.

Why purge the trivia list?
The Winchester 1887 isn't exactly common, and it made pretty notable appearances in Terminator and Ghost Rider. There's no reason to delete it. By the way, why'd you leave the Terminator 2 appearance but delete everything else? 75.17.118.62 21:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I don't know about originally, but I removed it because none of the appearances mentioned have any affect whatsoever on the notability of the firearm per WikiProject_Firearms. For example, even though Arnold carried one in T2, most people didn't know what the gun was, the movie certainly didn't say. Arthurrh 21:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

 * I disagree- the Lever Action shotgun used by Schwarzenegger in the film is notable because it's so unusual. The appearances in Ghost Rider and The Mummy Returns aren't notable- it's just a shotgun that someone happened to have in the armoury- but in T2 it's a focal piece of equipment- Schwarzenegger was posing with it for the Movie Poster and all the Promotional Material, for smeg's sake- and notable for that and it's unusualness. Before T2 came out, I didn't even know they made Lever-Action shotguns. Therefore, the M1887/1901 shotgun's notability is extraordinarily enhanced by it's appearance in T2, IMHO- in fact, this should be as plain as James Bond and the Walther PPK or Dirty Harry and the .44 Magnum. If the M1887/1901 hadn't been in T2, it would probably be one of the most obscure shotguns ever designed or manufactured. As it is, people recognise "That lever-action shotgun that Arnie had in T2", even if they don't know that it's Winchester Model 1901- they're going to be confused if they come across this article, think "That looks like the shotgun from T2, but it doesn't mention it in the article". As I've said before, the Pop Culture guidelines were introduced to stop Anime fans from including every. single. piece of obscure anime in which someone had a Mauser Broomhandle, or people adding lists with things like "A character in Randomfilm can be seen holding a Tokarev TT-33 in the scene when Something Interesting happens". It wasn't intended to create a situation in which we all pretend that firearms don't appear in movies or in popular culture, which is what we're veering dangerously close to at the moment, IMHO. --Commander Zulu 12:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No one is saying that firearms don't appear in movies. They're just saying that the appearance of a gun in a movie generally has no effect whatsover on the gun. For example in this case, it could just have well have been a Marlin lever-shotgun, and it wouldn't have made any difference. It's coincidental. If someone wants to know what shotgun Arnie used in a film, they'd do well to look at an article about the film, not randomly sift through shotgun articles hoping to find the correct one. It's very apropo to the film article, but only trivia to the firearm article. Per WP:TRIVIA "Trivia sections should be avoided, but if they must exist, they should in most cases be considered temporary, until a better method of presentation can be determined." And also take a look at Handling_trivia which suggests the info belongs in the film article, but not the firearm article. Arthurrh 03:23, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

 * We've been through this discussion before over and over again and the end result is always the same. The bar is set really high for inclusion of a fictional reference in a REAL FIREARM article.  This is all the more true when stupid details such as how big Arnold's hands are seem to get included. Who, reading this article, cares how big the Terminator's hands are?  What does that have to do with the gun?  To butcher a line from a movie, "This ain't no Sharps rifle and you ain't no Quigley." The concensus still stands, leave it out.--Asams10 16:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Agree. Does not belong.  —Thernlund (Talk 18:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

 * It may be notable from the movie's perspective, but it has nothing notable to add to a discussion about the gun other than trivia. If someone was asking me technical info about the firearm, it's definitely not something I mentioned. It didn't increase sales or even interest in lever-action shotguns. I fail to see how it belongs at all. Again, per the policy, it can't simply be notable, it has to have increased the notability of the firearm. Arthurrh 03:13, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

 * I agree that it may not be suitable for inclusion in the article but that does not mean that people don't want to be informed about this cool and obviously modded gun. If you folks have good info on Arnie's shotgun put it here in the discussion page so all the interested will have access to it without having to read about it in the actual Wiki article. Just my 2 cents. 68.153.29.23 (talk) 02:19, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Another Re-write
I've re-written the article and added an image, as it seemed long overdue for a clean-up. There's surprisingly little information on these shotguns in any of my reference books or on the net though, so thorough cites and references might have to wait a bit until someone can come up with something. --Commander Zulu 13:08, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I wonder if Stembridge Gun Rentals or anyone else has ever made the enlarged handles for re-enactor enthusists? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.103.48.146 (talk) 06:16, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Alternatives
I've been kicking this around trying to find a good way to include this in the article. The guidelines say that it should be part of the normal flow of the article, so maybe someone out there can help me. I was thinking of something like "Many people aren't aware that shotguns are available in lever-action, and were surprised on seeing one used by Arnold Schwarzenegger in T2" but of course that's OR, so if someone has a historical source from old news articles, it could fly. Similarly, if there was a report somewhere that somehow interest in this cool old shotgun was sparked/revitalized by T2, it would fit. Sources anyone? I'm afraid my library is much more centered on cartridges than old firearms. Arthurrh 23:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * A likely reason you're not able to find a way is that there is no good way to do it because it doesn't belong. Even if it were thorougly referenced (good luck) that there is a causal relationship between a SIGNIFICANT change to the firearm, it would still be marginal trivia.  The revitilization of the shotgun was due to the increase of cowboy action shooting as you can verify by noting the 1897 also went back into production.--Asams10 06:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Well I certainly can't find any such reference, but it's not clear from Handling_trivia that if you "DID" find such a reliable source that the use would be categorically disallowed. But in absence of a source, it's a moot point. Funny that you should strongly be in favor of the Walter P22 - Vtech inclusion, but against this one, even with a connection. ;-) Arthurrh 06:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Not funny at all. I'd say my crusade against FICTION should, at least in my conscience, give me more credibility in my arguments for the VT inclusion. The difference for me is FACT vs. FICTION.  One happens, the other is contrived.  The line is crystal clear to me.  I don't like things being made up for the purpose of being made up.--Asams10 06:32, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I see. Thanks for clarifying. Like I said, if it was clear that somehow T2 had revitalized interest in this firearm, or maybe even lever-action shotguns, I'd be inclined to include it. In some sense it was what someone was suggesting. But I certainly can't find any supporting references for it. I'm inclined to think that a lot of people didn't give the firearm a second thought upon watching the movie. Arthurrh 06:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It's interesting to note Clyde Barrow used a M1901 lever action as well; it was noted as being unusual even at the time. Not really suitable for mentioning in the article, as it had no real affect on the gun's notability, but the M1887 does seem to pop up in some odd places. As for the Fact vs Fiction thing- the way I see it, it is a FACT that this particular gun was used in this particular work (film), which happened to be FICTION. The line isn't quite as clear-cut, IMHO, as we've discussed before. --Commander Zulu 08:49, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I wrote this over on the P90 talk page. Maybe it applies here as well?
 * Goes like this...
 * Somebody sees Stargate and says, "Wow. I wonder what gun that is."  They then come to Wikipedia and look up Stargate.  In the Stargate article they discover that the the gun is in fact a P90.
 * It does NOT go like this...
 * Somebody sees a P90 and says, "I wonder what TV shows and movies that gun is in." They then go to Wikipedia and look up the P90 in search of a random list of "appearances"

To me, the gun should be mentioned in the T2 article, but not here. The flow is one direction. I've been saying that for awhile. There is no trivia that belongs in any firearms article unless the reader would be likely to come to the firearms article in question FIRST. That requires that the reader already know the gun, and would likely be looking for something about why the gun was in the movie. Not just a blub to the effect that it was. He'd already know that much. —Thernlund (Talk 18:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, makes a lot of sense. And yet those that have tried to put the info here have apparently not tried to add it to the T2 article, which confuses me. Arthurrh 18:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The ONLY legal repeating shotgun under Aussie law?
I know there's this, there's the Mossberg bolt-actions, but what about the Mc-255 shotgun and MTs255 shotguns? They are repeating shotguns which are neither pump-actions nor semi-automatics (and therefore legal), much like the M1887 and the Mossberg bolt guns, so should they be mentioned? CeeWhy2 09:49, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The revolving shotguns are illegal under NSW legislation, as I understand it. They're not available for sale here anyway- I'd never even heard of them until I read the linked articles. If you want a repeating 12ga shotgun here in Australia, and you aren't a farmer, your options are a Mossberg Bolt-Action or a Winchester 1887.--Commander Zulu 10:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * What about Queensland, though? Do you know anything about their laws in relation to weapons such as this? I looked at the NSW legislation and I noticed that it mentioned revolving longarms specifically, but the Queensland legislation  does not. I don't think revolving longarms are outlawed in Queensland like they are in New South Wales. CeeWhy2 11:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * AFAIK revolving longarms aren't specifically banned in QLD, but as I said before you can't buy the revolving shotguns in Australia anyway, as I don't believe they're approved for import by Customs- which means you can't legally own one here. --Commander Zulu 13:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm looking at my latest issue of Australian Shooter here, and there's this full-page advert for this Queensland gun shop called Cleaver Firearms - they're advertising their stock of Uberti revolving carbines. Maybe revolving longarms ARE approved for import... CeeWhy2 08:01, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've never said they weren't, but there are various safety tests that a revolving shotgun would have to pass before Customs would clear it for import. It's done on a firearm by firearm basis, so whilst a Uberti revolving carbine might have been OKd for import (and clearly they have been), that doesn't automatically mean a revolving shotgun would also be approved. FWIW, I have not yet seen revolving shotguns advertised for sale in Australia, and I can't see it happening anytime soon, as there's no market for them, IMHO. --Commander Zulu 12:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clearing that up. CeeWhy2 12:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Terminator
In the movie Terminator 2, Arnold Schwarzenegger's character, the T-800 uses a modified Winchester Model 1887 so that it can be "flip-cocked" in multiple scenes of the film. Because of the cultural significance of the character and the movie, i think this should be mentioned in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.74.219.84 (talk) 06:11, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

 * See the section of this talk page titled 'why purge the trivia list'. That addition doesn't conform to the project guidelines for Wikipedia firearm articles. ROG5728 (talk) 20:43, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Infobox image
For the infobox at least, preference is given to images of the real thing, especially if the images are practically identical (save for the Mare's Leg in your (very good) render). However, I believe that your image definitely does have a place on the article; I would suggest putting it under the infobox, like on SIG Sauer P227. I think it would look nicer if the receivers where lined up, but I have no idea how much or how little work that would require.

I also slightly object to you straight-up reverting my edit, as I changed more than just the image; changing just the image to your version, or starting a discussion on here, would have been better (in my opinion). Thanks, RadiculousJ (talk) 19:40, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your input. I think its beneficial to standardize image and info-box image quality. As far was Wiki page content (eg. Fire-arms) go, it lacks standardization of quality. e.g some Info-box image will depict the particular firearm along with other fire-arms or other objects in the background which causes emphasis to be drawn away from the main content itself, others may be poorly-edited and cut (see recently reverted FN P90 as an example, which I had replaced with a standardized image of improved quality but was reverted) and others may be to darkly lit, grainy and/or extremely old (existing) photographic image of the weapon and other graphical inconsistencies. Wiki policy states that anything should be improved upon if room for improvement is possible regardless whether its text, image, tables and suchlike. Otherwise, you are free to make any other minor corrections.

Other editors may accuse me of self promotion, but all of my content, including original images by me are licensed under CC0; Public Domain, and I take no credit for any of my works; they are dedicated solely for the use and interest for the general public, specifically for Wikipedia in the sake of improved and standardized quality and content.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. NotLessOrEqual

Image of both guns now have the receivers lined up as suggested. I agree, it does look better this way. Thank you for your input.

NotLessOrEqual

Use in video games/movies
This page seems to get decent traffic from gamers who aren't aware of what the pop culture section is for. I know there is discussion in the above sections, but I'm making a new section here in hopes people will notice this before adding to the article. WikiProject_Firearms. While the 1887 may be a popular weapon within certain gaming communities, not everyone is a gamer. For example, when someone thinks of the Terminator, chances are they'll imagine him riding a motorcycle with his cut down 1887. Games like Modern Warfare 2 or Fallout New Vegas aren't nearly as well known and for many, the weapon is just another shotgun to use. --Grimwol (talk) 00:49, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Photo
Why use a reproduction and not an action model? I think that there are much better, higher quality images of actual gun models than the current one Aliy Dawut (talk) 15:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

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User talk:Ikuzaf/Archive (April '05-June '05)

At Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rankings you said, The idea that "If I make X number of edits or make friends with X number of users I'll be automatically be entitled to a barnstar/promotion/whatever" is a very bad one. Yes, and it also sounds disturbingly like EverQuest. "Dinner's ready, honey!" "Hang on, I only need three more 'rv vandalisms' to make Level 10!" FreplySpang (talk) 20:14, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Liberty Belle
Given that the article is now about the pre-existing DC Comics character who was referenced in an episode of Powerpuff Girls, rather than simply the reference itself, can I convince you to change your vote? DS 21:04, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What WikiProject Rankings project is not

 * This is not suggesting a hierarcal system.
 * It will be used only by users who want to use it.
 * Only ranking will be assigend to users who want to use it.
 * The idea ment to make it like barn stars, but based on regular contribution.
 * It is currently a prototype, likely that it is nothing like the final version.

I urge you to reconsider your vote based on this clarification. Thanks --Cool Cat My Talk 08:41, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

New template
Why did you change the template for the Australian political parties. I now miss the links to information on politics (general) and on elections. I really would prefer the template Politics of Australia. Electionworld 08:43, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree that it would be good to have a Politics of Australia template like the ones for other countries. These are generally placed in the right up corner of each party and election result. These are often small boxes, in some countries these are larger. A problem is the Party info box, which is placed at the same location. How can we handle that. Electionworld 11:03, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No offense but...
It really isn't very useful to add a boiler-plate intro to a user's talk page. Frankly, it's just a little patronizing, since you're assuming I haven't gone looking for the instructions myself.

If I'm making ignorant mistakes (and I'm sure I am) it's not because I can't find the documentation. It's because there's so much of it, and it's so convoluted that it's hard to find the particular thing that applies to what I'm doing.

Specific guidance is much more helpful. If you see me screwing up, by all means point it out.

SamuraiClinton et al
I appreciate your comments on Votes for deletion/DOOM cheats, backing up my original reason for removing it. Like most other Wikipedians, the SamuraiClinton/sockpuppet problem is so frustrating that I am doing things that I would not normally do. Zzyzx11 | Talk 01:23, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Michaelm
Hey, I've finally come to the end of my patience with Michaelm. I've documented his latest atrocities at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Michaelm. I think it's time to go to Mediation, and have asked him to join me there. If he accepts, we might make some progress. If he does not, and I expect that he won't, then we've done the necessary steps to seek arbitration. I would be very happy if you would head up these two steps as our spokesperson, but I kind of figure that you've done your part, and we Canadians should take care of this problem with our local boy, so I'm willing to do it if you're not interested. Thanks again for taking the lead on the RfC. Ground Zero 22:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) (formerly User:Kevintoronto.)

Thank you
Hey Lacrimosus. I just wanted to thank you for supporting my RfA. I will make sure not to dissapoint you. Phils 19:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Schapelle Corby -- Suggestions
It needs restructuring above all else. It would be better to have a narrative section: this is what happened, first. This is what she is accused of (quote the Indonesian authorities). Then give the defence, introducing Ford. Give any Indonesian reaction to Ford. Make Bakir a separate section. Do not impute motives to him. Just quote him. Quote the Indonesians denying his charges. Don't include words like "vehemently". It's a bit negative. Show the Indonesians in a neutral light by simply reporting what they do and don't do and have said.

Don't say the public believes she's innocent. Quote newspapers saying so. Quote the Indonesians saying she is not, if they say it, for balance. What do Indonesian newspapers say?

Cut this entirely: "Many commentators in the media have raised concerns relating to the slow speed in which the Australian government responded to requests for assistance from Corby's legal team. The Australian government has responded by stating that support was given rapidly and that it was the legal team that has at times been slow to act."

It's of no wider interest. It would only be worth including if she was shot and the family blamed the gov't. That is unlikely to happen.

Cut this: "Belief in Corby's innocence is reportedly widespread in the Australian population". If newspapers have done polls, quote the polls. If opinionmakers are just blathering, forget it. It's not an indication of what people actually think. People who write newspaper columns don't actually know the "man on the street" but they sure do like to irresponsibly claim to know what he's thinking.

Make the progress of the trial a separate section and report it entirely without comment. Do not say that the judge made a "pointed observation". Just quote him or say he said it.

Ditch the photo! Replace it with one of her that doesn't make her look pathetic and helpless. You could use that one lower down. But just put a headshot up top. Remember, most nonAustralians don't have the faintest who she is or what any of this is about.

I don't really have the time to find all the requisite quotes, and I haven't been following the case that closely, although I am living in Brisbane, so I do see it on the news. I'll try to help a bit later in the day.Grace Note 01:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome
No problem; it was my pleasure. — Knowledge Seeker দ 18:29, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Danubis
Heya, i dont know who owns that cool pic of anzac square you speak of... i got it off skyscrapercity.com forums... so presumed it was free for public use. cheers. --Danubis 07:09, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Gough Whitlam references
Thanks for your response. But in my request I noted "Further reading is not the same thing as proper references. Further reading could list works about the topic that were not ever consulted by the page authors. If some of the works listed in the further reading section were used to add or check material in the article, please list them in a references section instead." It may sound minor, but is a really important distinction. If some or all of those were all properly used by you or someone else, please move them or rename the section. Thanks - Taxman 13:29, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)

QM
He's not Henry Tudor either. My objection was not to removing the HM but to restyling her Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, as you know perfectly well. I'll thnk you not to treat me like an idiot. Adam 13:42, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bjelke-Petersen
I've reverted it back to my own edit of the page. There's nothing I can find in Wikipedia's style manual or rules that dictate that a subject's quotes *must* go to Wikiquotes. I can't help feeling you've edited it for no other reason than you believe it's your page.

At the very least, you could've let me know why on my own talk page which you didn't do. (You are meant to tell someone if you've reverted their contribution). There's plenty of luminaries on Wikipedia that have quotes as part of their article, Prince Philip et al. If you disagree, we'll take it to arbitration. Peter1968 17:59, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Oh well, have it your way then. It's patently clear to me that you consider the Joh page to be your personal fiefdom, from evidence of the revision history. You win; revel in it. Peter1968 20:37, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

The Matrix RfC
If you are interested, please check out Requests for comment/AndyL and certify. — Phil Welch 23:00, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

VFD
Seeing as how you weighed in on another controversial VFD (List of people described as neoconservatives, I was wondering if you could weigh in on this one as well Votes for deletion/List of people described as Stalinists. Thank you. TDC 00:02, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)

My RFA
Thank you for your comments on my RFA. Although the voting period just ended with a 14-8-2 vote, I will admit once and for all that I used it more as an evaluation of myself. Being promoted would have been a plus. I was more interested in who voted, when they voted, who would change their votes and when, and the comments I would receive. Hopefully I will correct the main weakness that was raised by those who voted oppose -- that I was too eager to put articles on VFD. Also, I will try to interact more with those Wikipedians who did not vote at all.

As for next month, I don't know if I will nominate myself again. I might not think about it until somebody else puts me up there on RFA at a later date. Eventually, I see myself as an admin, especially as the number of articles and users continues to grow. Thanks again and good luck at improving this vast archive of free knowledge. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 09:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

AWU
I agree there is a problem with the names of Labor factions, but the link to Right isn't very helpful. Perhaps we need to write a better section at Australian Labor Party on the factions, and then redirect Socialist Left and Labor Unity there. Adam 02:40, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Australian Labor Party
Thanks for your careful and logical revision to this article re: standard practice versus normal. You reached the tone or effect that I was looking for. Thanks again! EdwinHJ | Talk 02:59, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/Julian Barendse
I read your vote and assume that your vote is delete. However, you didn't actually say delete. I voted keep (laying aside all biases) because it is the national president and I believe that creates enough notability. Xtra 10:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

troll
I am no longer replying. Remove it if you wish. Xtra 12:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Vote on policy positions at Government of Australia
I note that Skyring has said that he doesn't intend submitting a proposal for the position this article should adopt on the matters in dispute between him and other uses. I think we can all draw the appropriate conclusions from this. At the expiry of the 24-hour period I gave Skyring yesterday to submit a proposal (10.10am AEST), I will announce a vote at Australian Wikipedians' notice board and at Village pump. Since Skyring has wimped the chance to have his views voted on, the vote will be a straight yes/no on my policy position, which appears below. Amendments or alternative suggestions are of course welcome. I have an open mind on how long the voting period should be and how many votes should be seen as an acceptable participation. I will be posting this notice to the Talk pages of various Users who have participated in this debate. Adam 23:03, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

My proposed policy position is this:
 * That in Government of Australia, and in all other articles dealing with Australia's system of government, it should be stated that:
 * 1. Australia is a constitutional monarchy and a federal parliamentary democracy
 * 2. Australia's head of state is Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Australia
 * 3. Under the Constitution, almost all of the Queen's functions are delegated to and exercised by the Governor-General, as the Queen's representative.

 * That any edit which states that (a) Australia is a republic, (b) the Governor-General is Australia's head of state, or (c) Australia has more than one head of state, will be reverted, and that such reversions should not be subject to the three-reversions rule.
 * Edits which say that named and relevant persons (eg politicians, constitutional lawyers, judges) disagree with the above position, and which quote those persons at reasonable length, are acceptable, provided proper citation is provided and the three factual statements are not removed. Adam 23:16, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Sudoku
Sorry for the late reply... I never got a chance to clarify what I had to say on FAC. I was thinking that a completed puzzle might be helpful. What do you think? - Ta bu shi da yu 23:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support
Thank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_ >|< 08:10, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

MV Tampa
Being an American, I just learned a few days ago about the whole affair. How embarrassing. Reading the article, I still have a lot of questions. For instance, it says:
 * The Australian government claimed this was illegal, but under normal law of the sea, and Australian law at the time, it probably wasn't unless it can be established that he was falsely claiming an emergency. As of October 2001, this has not been established.

Any news on this? I also tagged Pacific Solution as needing updates at the same time. It says:
 * As at March 17, 2004, 1,229 asylum seekers had been processed on Nauru, and 276 remained.

But that was over a year ago. Also, I guess the MV Tampa article ought to link to the Pacific Solution article.

Finally, neither article mentions the whole "children overboard" controversy. (I first learned about this issue from this mp3.) Seems quite relevant to me. Cheers, – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 11:24, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

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A rationibus

The a rationibus was the secretary of finance in the Roman Empire and in charge of the imperial treasury, the fiscus. His responsibilities involved monitoring the state's revenues and expenditures and maintaining the accounts of the fiscus, giving the a rationibus considerable influence.

The role of the a rationibus was originally created by Augustus, who needed accurate and comprehensive accounts of the state's finances in order to exercise budgetary control, and was thus given to members of his household, probably freedmen. This role was then institutionalized in the position of the a rationibus, who was paid a salary by the aerarium and given an office in the Palatine bureaus, under Tiberius. Roman patrician families such as the Junii Silani may also have designated their accountants as "a rationibus", although this custom fell out of practice when the imperial office of the a rationibus became institutionalized and had vanished at the latest under Nero's reign. Within his role as accountant, the careful bookkeeping of military expenditures, the costs of the public distribution of grain, religious constructions and infrastructure projects, but also the embellishment of the imperial palace, and project public revenues, e.g. from the Empire's various mines, were among the a rationibus'  most important tasks. Moreover, the a rationibus was also responsible for the behavior of the magistrates of the fiscus and public complaints were addressed to his office. The praepositus a rationibus was helped by his chief subordinate, the proximus a rationibus, and strongly relied on the continuous confidence of the emperor, as evidenced by the consequences of Tiberius Iul. Aug. lib.'s dismissal. Sometimes, the offices of the a rationibus and ab epistulis, the secretary in charge of the imperial correspondence, were joined, e.g. in the case of Tiberius Claudius Vibianus Tertullus.

The office of a rationibus was initially held by freedmen such as Pallas, Phaon, and the father of Claudius Etruscus. However, from the 2nd century AD on (i.e., around the reigns of Trajan and Hadrian), the position was occupied only by Equestrians (Equites) after the reputation of freedmen had been blackened due to their undue influence at the imperial court and several corruption affairs. The office of the a rationibus was abolished through Diocletian's tetrarchic reforms, which put the management of the imperial finances during the 4th and 5th century AD under the purview of the comes sacrarum largitionum (master of the sacred largess).

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List of Vietnamese dynasties

Prior to the abdication of Bảo Đại on 30 August 1945 in the aftermath of the August Revolution, Vietnam was ruled by a series of dynasties of either local or Chinese origin. The following is a list of major dynasties in the history of Vietnam.

Naming convention
In Vietnamese historiography, dynasties are generally known to historians by the family name of the monarchs. For example, the Đinh dynasty (Nhà Đinh; ) is known as such because the ruling clan bore the family name Đinh.

Similar to Chinese dynasties, Vietnamese dynasties would adopt a quốc hiệu ("name of the state") upon the establishment of the realm. However, as it was common for several dynasties to share the same official name, referring to regimes by their official name in historiography would be potentially confusing. For instance, the quốc hiệu "Đại Việt" was used by the Lý dynasty (since the reign of Lý Thánh Tông), the Trần dynasty, the Later Trần dynasty, the Later Lê dynasty, the Mạc dynasty, and the Tây Sơn dynasty.

In the Vietnamese language, the word for "dynasty" may be written as either nhà or triều  depending on the context. The former is generally used to denote the ruling family whereas the latter refers to the dynastic regime. For instance, the Mạc dynasty can be rendered as "Nhà Mạc" or "Mạc triều".

Origin of dynasties
Apart from over one millennium of direct Chinese rule, Vietnam was ruled by a series of "local" dynasties, although some of which could have their origins traced to China.

The founder of the legendary Hồng Bàng dynasty, Lộc Tục, was recorded as a descendant of the mythical Chinese ruler Shennong.

According to two historical Vietnamese texts, the Complete Annals of Đại Việt and the Imperially-commissioned Annotated Text Reflecting the Complete History of Việt, Thục Phán of the Thục dynasty was from Sichuan, China, which was previously under the rule of the ancient Chinese State of Shu.

The Triệu dynasty, established by Zhao Tuo from the Chinese Qin dynasty, was considered an orthodox local regime by traditional Vietnamese historiography. However, modern Vietnamese historians generally regard the Triệu dynasty to be a foreign regime that ruled Vietnam.

The founder of the Early Lý dynasty, Lý Bôn, was descended from Chinese refugees who fled Wang Mang's seizure of power in the final years of the Western Han in China.

The first emperor of the Lý dynasty, Lý Công Uẩn, could have his paternal bloodline traced to modern-day Fujian, China. Lý Công Uẩn's father, Lý Thuần An, escaped to Quanzhou from Hebei after Lý Công Uẩn's grandfather, Li Song, was wrongly accused of treason and executed by the Emperor Yin of Later Han.

The origin of the Trần dynasty was traced to modern Fujian, where the ancestor of the Trần imperial clan, Trần Kính, migrated from in the 11th century CE. The Later Trần dynasty was ruled by the same imperial clan as the earlier Trần dynasty.

The Hồ dynasty was ruled by the Hồ family which migrated from present-day Zhejiang, China to Vietnam under the leadership of Hồ Hưng Dật during the 10th century CE. The Hồ dynasty claimed descent from the Duke Hu of Chen, the founder of the ancient Chinese State of Chen. The Duke Hu of Chen was in turn descended from the legendary Emperor Shun, who was recognized by Hồ Quý Ly as the progenitor of the Hồ imperial family. Accordingly, the Hồ dynasty adopted the official quốc hiệu "Đại Ngu" ("Great Ngu"); "Ngu" was derived from the Emperor Shun's lineage name, Youyu (有虞). Rulers of the Tây Sơn dynasty, initially surnamed Hồ, were descended from the same line as the Hồ dynasty.

Familial relations among dynasties
Several Vietnamese dynasties were related:

 * Dương Vân Nga was originally an empress consort of Đinh Tiên Hoàng, the founder of the Đinh dynasty; she later became an empress consort of Lê Hoàn, the founder of the Early Lê dynasty
 * Lê Thị Phất Ngân, the empress consort of Lý Thái Tổ, the founder of the Lý dynasty, was the daughter of Lê Hoàn and thus originally a princess of the Early Lê dynasty
 * The final monarch of the Lý dynasty, Lý Chiêu Hoàng, was the spouse of Trần Thái Tông, the founder of the Trần dynasty. Later on, he would marry her elder sister, Princess Lý Oánh, the biological mother of Trần Thánh Tông.
 * Hồ Quý Ly, the founder of the Hồ dynasty, was the maternal grandfather of Trần An, the last emperor of the Trần dynasty
 * Giản Định Đế, the founder of the Later Trần dynasty, was a son of the ninth Trần monarch, Trần Nghệ Tông; he was also an older brother of the 12th emperor of the Trần dynasty, Trần Thuận Tông
 * The Primitive Lê dynasty and the Revival Lê dynasty are collectively called the Later Lê dynasty; the founder of the Revival Lê dynasty, Lê Trang Tông, was a son of Lê Chiêu Tông, the 11th Primitive Lê emperor
 * The ruling house of the Tây Sơn dynasty was descended from the same paternal ancestor as the Hồ dynasty
 * Gia Long Đế, the founder of the Nguyễn dynasty, was a paternal grandson of Nguyễn Phúc Khoát, the eighth Nguyễn lord

Champa
Champa (Chăm Pa; ) existed as an independent polity until its annexation by the Nguyễn dynasty in 1832 CE, thereby laying the foundation for the territories of the modern Vietnamese state. Most of the rulers of Champa were of Cham descent, an Austronesian ethnic group distinct from the majority Kinh ethnicity of Vietnam.

There were 15 dynasties in the history of Champa. According to Chinese historical sources, Champa officially used the quốc hiệu "Lâm Ấp" from the 1st to 4th dynasties, "Hoàn Vương"  during the 5th dynasty, and "Chiêm Thành"  from the 6th to 15th dynasties.

List of dynasties in Vietnamese history
This list includes the various dynasties in the history of Vietnam, of both local and Chinese origins. Dynasties of China that ruled Vietnam are highlighted in orange. The Triệu dynasty is highlighted in light orange due to its disputed status.

Timeline of dynasties in Vietnamese history
Legend:
 * Orange denotes local Vietnamese dynasties
 * Teal denotes dynasties during the First Era of Northern Domination
 * Olive denotes dynasties during the Second Era of Northern Domination
 * Green denotes dynasties during the Third Era of Northern Domination
 * Pink denotes dynasty during the Fourth Era of Northern Domination

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Balticon

Balticon is the Maryland Regional science fiction convention, sponsored by the Baltimore Science Fiction Society (BSFS). It has been held annually since 1966. The name "Balticon" is trademarked by BSFS.

Overview
Balticon brings together over 1800 science, science fiction and fantasy professionals, creative amateurs, and fans on Memorial Day weekend each year for a 4-day multi-track event in or around Baltimore.

Balticon can be described as a "General" or "Big Tent" science fiction convention since, while the primary emphasis is literary, programming and activities cover a number of other areas, such as anime, art, costuming, science, Podcasting and new media, gaming, and Filk music.

Balticon is produced by the Baltimore Science Fiction Society, Inc., a 501(c)(3) literary society. It is run entirely by volunteers, who assume responsibility at many levels, ranging from gofers who sign up and run errands at the convention, to the Con Chair who may spend up to two years on planning and administration.

Activities and program items are developed by the convention staff with suggestions from program participants, and the literary program usually concentrates most heavily on the segment of genre in which the year's Guest of Honor publishes most of his/her work.

Some Balticon activities and tracks run 24 hours a day from Friday afternoon to Monday afternoon. Balticon also usually hosts a Robert Heinlein "Pay It Forward" Blood Drive at some time during the convention.

Awards
BSFS presents the Compton Crook Award given for the best first novel in the Science Fiction, Fantasy or Horror genre, during Balticon. The previous year's winner is invited back to present the award to the new winner.

The winner of the annual Jack L. Chalker Young Writer's Contest is announced at Balticon. BSFS sponsors this short story writing contest for Maryland residents or school attendees between the ages of 14 and 18, in the Fantasy or Science Fiction genres.

Beginning in 2013, the Baltimore Science Fiction Society began presenting the Robert A. Heinlein Award at Balticon Opening Ceremonies. BSFS is the sponsoring organization for the award, which was started in 2003 by Yoji Kondo, and is 50% funded by The Heinlein Society. The recipient is selected by a panel of judges originally chosen from among Robert Heinlein's fellow SF writers.

The Balticon Poetry Contest winners are invited to read their winning entries at Balticon, and they are published in the Balticon Convention Program Guide. Cash prizes and convention memberships are awarded.

The Masquerade is usually held on Saturday night, and awards are given for various categories in Costuming, including creativity, construction and presentation.

The Balticon Sunday Night Short Film Festival (BSNSFF) is a no-submission-fee competition traditionally held on Sunday night for short films in the Science Fact, Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Horror genres. Currently, the audience votes to choose winners in animated and live-action categories.

Past Balticon Sunday Night Short Film Festival winners:
 * 2006 THE GRANDFATHER PARADOX
 * 2007 HIDE AND SEEK – Chris Romano, Creator/Director
 * 2008 THE END IS NIGHT
 * 2009 Best Animated BURNING SAFARI
 * 2009 Best Live Action The Hunt for Gollum
 * 2010 Best Animated ETA – Henrik Bjerregaard Clausen, director
 * 2010 Best Live Action (tie) ANDROID LOVE – Lee Citron, writer/director
 * 2010 Best Live Action (tie) THE LEGACY – Mike Doto, writer/director
 * 2010 Best Specialty Short THIS TOO SHALL PASS (OK Go)
 * 2010 Director's Choice Animated THE PAINTER OF SKIES – Jorge Morais Valle, writer/director
 * 2010 Director's Choice Live Action MY FRIEND JOSH – Shaun Springer, director
 * 2011 Best Animated ZERO – Christopher Kezelos, director
 * 2011 Best Live Action DEAD ON TIME – Kostos Skiftas, Andreas Lambropoulos, directors
 * 2011 Director's Choice Animated SINTEL – Colin Levy, writer/director
 * 2011 Director's Choice Live Action CORBIN – Brent Weichsel, director

Balticon may also premier an independent feature-length film, and a locally (MD, DC, VA, PA) produced feature film some time during the 4-day convention, as well as several hours of panel discussions in Balticon's Filmmaking Program track.

History
Prior to 1966, BSFS held an annual event for the election of BSFS board of directors. After several years, BSFS rented hotel space and invited an author to speak, as a guest of honor, at its election events. From this point forward, the event became an annual convention known as Balticon. Subsequently, BSFS election functions were moved to a different date.

Before 2001, Balticon was held on Easter weekend to take advantage of lower hotel costs and was three days long; however, in 2001 Balticon moved to Memorial Day Weekend and expanded to a full four days.

Virtual convention
Balticon 54 had been scheduled as an in person for 22–25 May 2020, but the in-person convention was cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The event was reorganized to be a free online convention on the same dates. It took place over Zoom, Discord, and Second Life. Balticon 55, May 28 - 31, 2021, was also held as a virtual event. Admission to the virtual conventions was free in both years. A hybrid event was planned for Balticon 56. This was the first time a charge was required to attend virtual programming. Balticon 57 was in-person, with many events streamed and later available for viewing by those who had purchased tickets or virtual passes.

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Curral das Freiras

Curral das Freiras ("Pen of the Nuns") is a civil parish in the municipality of Câmara de Lobos in the Portuguese archipelago of Madeira. The population in 2011 was 2,001, in an area of 25.03 km2. It is situated in the mountainous interior of the island. Being one of the more distant locations from the municipal seat of Câmara de Lobos, it is geographically isolated from other communities by the cliffs and peaks surrounding its central valley. A tunnel southwards in the direction of Funchal now offers safe access to the valley.

History
Initially, during its early settlement access to the valley of Curral was difficult, and was only attempted by semi-nomadic shepherds and slaves who gained their emancipation or escaped from servitude. These people built small homes, and a small hamlet developed towards the end of the 15th century. More permanent residents began to dwell in the valley shortly after, although the area remained little developed.

The settlement was part of the dominion of João Gonçalves Zarco, who granted its use for cultivation around 1462 to João Ferreira and his wife Branca Dias. These settlers later donated their lands to their grandchild Branca Teixeira, on 22 August 1474. On 11 September 1480, the lands were, once again, sold to the second Captain-Donatório, João Gonçalves da Câmara (Zarco´s son), who in turn donated it the Convento of Santa Clara in the name of his daughter Elvira and Joana who lived in the convent.

During early colonization, the settlement was simply known as Curral or Curral da Serra (corral or corral of the mountains), because it was known for its extensive pasture-lands, used for grazing cattle and small herds (sheep and goats). The name was subsequently altered, when these lands became the property of the nuns of the Convent of Santa Clara (between 1492 and 1497). There is also some discrepancy; others credit the name change after 1566, when the nuns of the Convent took refuge on these properties, during the French privateer attacks on Funchal.

The lands of Curral das Freiras were part of the parish of Santo António, but, owing to its extreme isolation from this ecclesiastical seat, the religious parish of Curral das Freiras was instituted in 1780. Later, on 17 March 1790, by regal charter (from Queen Maria I, Curral das Freiras became an independent parish, separating from Santo António.

Geography
Situated in a deep valley and encircled by steep mountain slopes, the parish of Curral das Freiras is located 29 kilometres from the municipal seat of Câmara de Lobos. Most of the buildings in the parish overlook the main valley, with the steep hillsides encircling the parish used for the cultivation of cherries and grapes used in the production of Madeira wine.

Architecture
Although rich in architectural heritage, the national architectural registry in Portugal is currently reviewing the status of the following as a national monument:
 * Thermoelectric Centre of Curral das Freiras (Central Térmica no Curral das Freiras), designed by architect Raul Chorão Ramalho, the industrial structure was projected in 1964.

Culture
The parish's patron seat is Nossa Senhora do Livramento (Our Lady of Alleviation), and annually the parish celebrates a festival in Her honor on the last Sunday of August.

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Time of the Season

"Time of the Season" is a song by the British rock band the Zombies, featured on their 1968 album Odessey and Oracle. It was written by keyboard player Rod Argent and recorded at Abbey Road Studios (then known as EMI Studios) in September 1967. Over a year after its original release, the track became a surprise hit in the United States, rising to number three on the Billboard Hot 100 and number one on the Cashbox chart. It has become one of the Zombies' most popular and recognizable songs, and an iconic hit of 1960s psychedelia.

Song information
Several other songs from Odessey and Oracle were released as singles prior to "Time of the Season". Columbia Records supported the album and its singles at the urging of new A&R representative Al Kooper. One of the singles issued on Columbia's Date label was the noncommercial-sounding "Butcher's Tale", which Columbia thought might catch on as an antiwar statement, at the time a popular trend. "Time of the Season" was released only at Kooper's urging, initially coupled with its original UK B-side, "I'll Call You Mine", without success. After previous singles flopped, Date re-released "Time of the Season" backed with another UK flop single, "Friends of Mine", and it made its breakthrough in early 1969, over a year after the band split up. It reached number three on the Billboard Hot 100 in March, topped the Cashbox chart, and reached number one in Canada. It did not chart in the band's native Britain, despite being re-released twice, but it later found fame there with Rod Argent saying that it became "a classic in the UK, but it's never been a hit." In mid-1969, it peaked at number two on the South African hit parade.

The song makes extensive use of call-and-response vocals (from singer Colin Blunstone) interwoven with fast-paced psychedelic keyboard improvisation by Rod Argent.

In 1998, Big Beat Records released a CD reissue of Odessey and Oracle containing both the original stereo and monoaural versions of "Time of the Season". It also featured a newly remixed alternate version containing instrumental backing underneath the vocals during the entire chorus. These instrumental backings had been mixed out on the original 1968 stereo and mono versions to create a cappella vocal sections. The outro is also different, with a different organ solo featuring only one organ, instead of the two interleaved organs in the original mix.

Milwaukee's Third Coast Daily.com called the song "something of a counterculture anthem".

In 2012, NME named the track the 35th-best song of the 1960s. In 2021, it was ranked at No. 349 on Rolling Stone's "Top 500 Greatest Songs of All Time".

Personnel
Partial credits from Richard Buskin and Rod Argent.

 * Colin Blunstone – lead and backing vocals
 * Rod Argent – backing vocals, Hammond L100 organs, sound effect
 * Chris White – backing vocals, bass
 * Paul Atkinson – backing vocals, guitar
 * Hugh Grundy – backing vocals, drums

Cover versions and samples
The song has been covered many times by other bands in recordings, including:
 * In 1969, Thyme covered "Time of the Season" for A-Square records.
 * In 1981, Pino D'Angio included an Italian version of "Time of the Season" with different lyrics titled "Signorina" on his album ...Balla!
 * Michael Damian covered the song as the title track of his 1994 LP.
 * In 1997, Kurt Elling recorded a jazz version on the album The Messenger.
 * Scott Weiland released a cover version on the Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me soundtrack, credited to a fictitious band called "Big Blue Missile" featuring Weiland.
 * In 2003, Ben Taylor recorded the song for his album Famous Among the Barns, later featured in the horror film Prom Night (2008).
 * In 2005, The Guess Who released a cover of the song in the compilation album Let's Go.
 * Dave Matthews Band had the song on the CD-DVD Weekend on the Rocks (2005) and Live Trax Vol. 9 (2007).
 * Also in 2007, it was recorded by Tommy Shaw (of Styx) and Jack Blades (of Night Ranger) for their album Influence.
 * America remade "Time of the Season" for their 2012 release Back Pages, a cover album.
 * In 2018, Hawaiian ukulele artist Jake Shimabukuro covered the song on his album, The Greatest Day.

It has been sampled many times, including in 2005 on the Necro album The Sexorcist in the opening track "Who's Ya Daddy?"; in 2009 by Melanie Fiona in her single "Give It to Me Right"; in 2011 on the ScHoolboy Q album Setbacks in the bonus track "Rolling Stone", which features the rap supergroup Black Hippy; in the outro on Miguel's "Don't Look Back" from the 2012 album Kaleidoscope Dream; Eminem's 2013 album The Marshall Mathers LP 2, in "Rhyme or Reason"; and on Insane Clown Posse’s 2019 album Fearless Fred Fury, in “Low”.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Windfall

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 16:29, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Windfall
Probable vanity. I also doubt this is the type of "windfall" mentioned in List of encyclopedia topics (77). -- Grunt 🇪🇺 01:12, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable, band vanity. Megan1967 07:24, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Megan1967. -- Dcfleck 15:07, 2005 Apr 16 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Platinum Blonde

Platinum blonde is a color of blonde hair.

Platinum Blonde may also refer to:
 * Platinum Blonde (band), a Canadian new wave music band, popular in the 1980s
 * Platinum Blonde (EP), their 1983 debut EP
 * Platinum Blonde (film), a 1931 film starring Loretta Young
 * "Platinum Blonde" (song), song by Blondie
 * "Platinum Blonde", instrumental by Supergroove, released in the 1994 album Great Mixes
 * Platinum Blonde (cocktail), an infused cocktail made of vodka

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Military asset

In military usage, a military asset is a weapon or means of production of weapons or other defensive or offensive devices or capabilities.

Description
Whether a military asset is considered a capital asset, or part of a public infrastructure, is a matter of definition. War planners may deem individuals and other items in war zones and rebel controlled area as military assets and not civilian infrastructure. This can include train lines, water plants, agricultural factories, and medicine supplies.

Tactical imagery is used to find concealed high-value assets like artillery placements, ammo dumps and other logistical sites. Terrain and the proximity to supported units would dictate probable locations of logistical routes, ammo dumps, supply depots and assembly areas. Being that the military by definition embraces uniformity, patterns of emplacement and concealment are targeting by the opposing forces assets (such as artillery and air strikes). The size, shape, and surroundings of items frequently gave away the location of military assets and identifiable targets.

Marilyn Waring argued in the 1980s that under the UN System of National Accounts there was no clear differentiator of investment in public goods versus weaponry, and that this distorted the entire monetary system. See monetary reform for more on this issue.

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Talk:Julien Offray de La Mettrie

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This is an informative article; however, the actual eulogy written by Frederick the Great about La Mattrie would be helpful, in English or the original language (whether it is German or French I don't know).

 * I found a used copy of F.A. Lange's Geschichte des Materialismus (History of Materialism). It contained Frederick the Great's funeral oration. As a result, I created the "Death" section and related the story of La Mettrie's unfortunate over-indulgence.Lestrade 15:14, 3 January 2006 (UTC)Lestrade

Could someone add the "philosophy" box to the right-hand side? I don't know how, or I'd do it myself. Gavin6942 (talk) 00:36, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Addition/Changes
Hello, I am editing this page for an assignment in my History of Psychology class. Please look over my edit and let me know what you think. I am open to suggestions. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Psychetudiante (talk • contribs) 01:12, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Request for Comments
There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.

The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person.

Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 09:17, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Philosophy
The text said, without citing a reference, that La Mettrie was a "mechanistic materialist." A contrary view is cited in Skrbina, David. Panpsychism in the West. rev ed. Cambridge, MA: MIT Press, 2017, p123: "To him, mind was a very real entity, and clearly it was embedded in a material cosmos. An obvious solution, therefore, was to see matter itself as inherently dynamic, capable of feeling, even intelligent. Motion and mind derive from some inherent powers of life or sentience that dwell in matter itself or in the organizational properties of matter. That view, sometimes called vitalistic materialism, is the one that LaMettrie—and later Diderot—adopted.2 Commentators often portray LaMettrie as a mechanist because it is assumed that anyone who denies the spiritual realm must see all things, and in particular all living things, as products of dead matter. It is quite common, even today, to equate materialism with mechanism. But, as has been noted, the two are logically independent. ...Though he obviously adopted the term ‘machine’ in his L’Homme Machine, it was in a specifically vitalistic sense." I suggest replacing the statement about "mechanistic materialist" with one about "vitalistic materialism", with a short quote from Skrbina in a footnote. What do others think? Gerry1998 (talk) 06:41, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

I have now carried this change through. Gerry1998 (talk) 05:59, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Peer review/Sanquhar/archive1

Sanquhar
This is the first article I have submitted to the Wikipedia. Originally I wrote this as a chapter for a book about my family history. I found some large tombs written about the town, but nothing concise. I also had some pamphlets and websites, but their focus was too narrow. In the end I just had to develop my own work. At the time (1999) I had several other genealogists who were interested in the area review my work and they approved of it.

I would like to include more photographs, but I’m not sure of the copy write status of the images I have.

The article did already exist, which surprised me. I included most of the original article mixed in with my contribution. Please consider comparing the original to my version.

It seems like this page might be for those who are seeking "Featured Status". I doubt this article would ever qualify for such a lofty goal. I just want to call enough attention to it so that someone will find any mistakes and fix them. Otherwise it might go un-noticed for months. I would also be grateful for any comments that might help me write and research articles in the future. DWR 01:16, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * A very nice article on a small town. It could use a section on the modern town, and also an external link or two. — RJH 18:57, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Its ok for now, but if you have plans to try for FA, it would fail immediately. There a lot more you can add. For instance, the map is awful. It does a good job of the location, but I'm sure there are better UK maps on wikipedia that can be edited. Since it is a small town, I understand that it may be difficult to make it as comprehensive as a city article. I've worked on Kalimpong, a small town, maybe you could get some ideas on the sections to add and some more content and images. IMO the history needs a dedicated page.  == 19:56, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

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Mayan Sign Language

Mayan Sign Language (Lengua de señas maya or yucateca) is a sign language used in Mexico and Guatemala by Mayan communities with unusually high numbers of deaf inhabitants. In some instances, both hearing and deaf members of a village may use the sign language. It is unrelated to the national sign languages of Mexico (Mexican Sign Language) and Guatemala (Guatemalan Sign Language), as well as to the local spoken Mayan languages and Spanish.

Yucatec Mayan Sign Language
Yucatec Maya Sign Language, is used in the Yucatán region by both hearing and deaf rural Maya. It is a natural, complex language which is not related to Mexican Sign Language, but may have similarities with sign languages found in nearby Guatemala.

As the hearing villagers are competent in the sign language, the deaf inhabitants seem to be well integrated into the community – in contrast to the marginalization of deaf people in the wider community, and also in contrast to Highland Mayan Sign Language.

The oral language of the community is the Yucatec Maya language.

Highland Mayan Sign Language
In the highlands of Guatemala, Maya use a sign language that belongs to a "sign language complex" known locally in the Kʼicheʼ language as Meemul Chʼaabʼal and Meemul Tziij, "mute language." Researcher Erich Fox Tree reports that it is used by deaf rural Maya throughout the region, as well as some traders and traditional storytellers. These communities and Fox Tree believe that Meemul Chʼaabʼal belongs to an ancient family of Maya sign languages. Fox Tree claims that Yucatec Maya Sign Language is closely related and substantially mutually intelligible.

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Baltimore Science Fiction Society

The Baltimore Science Fiction Society (BSFS) is a literary organization focusing on science fiction, fantasy and related genres. A 501c3 literary society based in Baltimore, Maryland, the BSFS sponsors Balticon, the Maryland Regional Science Fiction Convention.

Activities
BSFS is an active organization which hosts many free, public events at its headquarters in the Highlandtown section of Baltimore City. Located at 3310 East Baltimore Street, it holds a business meeting on the second Saturday of each month at 7 PM that covers planning for Balticon and general BSFS organizational issues. It also hosts an anime, manga, and gaming social event on the third Saturday of the month from 2 – 6 PM. BSFS also hosts a Speculative Fiction Critique Circle for science fiction, fantasy, horror, etc. writers to receive feedback on their work: that Circle meets on the 2nd and 4th Thursday of every month, from 6:30 PM – 8:30 PM. There is also a Book Discussion Circle that meets on the 4th Saturday of every month, from 6:30 to 8 PM, to discuss and analyze an assigned book; then there is a General Social Meeting which follows right after that. And on the 2nd and 4th Sundays of each month, the Games Club of Maryland hosts a gaming day called Alphabet Soup at BSFS headquarters from 12 –6PM. Authors such as Catherine Asaro, Philippa Ballantine, Charles Shields, T.J. Perkins, and others have spoken there in recent years. It maintains a large free lending library, cooperates with other science fiction organizations, runs www.bsfs.org which is a detailed website with extensive resources, and conducts other public outreach events promoting literacy. BSFS is an open, equal organization which welcomes every gender, sex, religion, and creed.

BSFS sponsors a young writers contest for Maryland students named "The Jack L. Chalker Young Writers Contest." BSFS conducts the annual Bobby Gear Memorial Charity Auction to fund the BSFS Books for Kids program which gives free reading books to students in cooperation with a Maryland school/schools.

The BSFS has presented the Compton Crook Award each Balticon SM (since 1983) for "... the best first novel in the genre published during the previous year ...". The list of eligible books is published in the monthly newsletter so all club members will have a chance to read and vote. The winning author is invited to Balticon SM (BSFS pays transportation and lodging) and presented with the cash award. Compton Crook, who used the nom de plume Stephen Tall, died in 1981. He was a long time Baltimore resident, a Towson University professor, and, of course, a science fiction author.

History
The Baltimore Science Fiction Society was first formed on January 5, 1963, on the back seat of a Trailways bus, by people returning from a meeting of the Washington Science Fiction Association (WSFA). Early founding members including a preponderance of influential writers, including noted fantasist Jack Chalker and Robert Howard scholar Mark Owings, attracting luminaries Roger Zelazny (who at the time was still working for nearby Social Security Administration), Joe and Jack Haldeman, and many others. There was a close alliance with neighboring WSFS, with strong cross-pollination, aiding the growth of both organizations, assisted by Jerry Jacks, Gay Haldeman, and Stephen Patt. It went into suspension as an organization after an election of officers which proved disastrous on October 12, 1968, on a (non-functioning) streetcar. Its only production of consequence was starting Balticon SM (1966) and it has in common with the present group only the name, spirit, Balticon, and continuity of the same three founding members.

There was no formal BSFS during the intervening years, but several fans managed to keep the Balticon SM tradition alive by holding Balticons SM number 3 through 8.

Present
The present Baltimore Science Fiction Society was restarted in 1974 when it was incorporated in the State of Maryland. It applied for and was granted IRS tax exempt status.

BSFS is the third Science Fiction society in the country to own their own meeting place. LASFS (Los Angeles Science Fantasy Society) and NESFA (New England Science Fiction Association) are the other two. The former theater at 3310 East Baltimore Street, in the Highlandtown section of Baltimore, is being slowly renovated as time and money allow. On December 15, 2004, after a long fight by BSFS the Maryland Court of Appeals ruled favorably on the tax exemption status of the BSFS building, reversing a ruling by the Maryland State Department of Assessment and Taxation. The decision forced the state to revise the Maryland property tax code for literary organizations and other non-profit organizations that serve an educational purpose.

Along with the plethora of regular events it hosts, BSFS also maintains a popular SF resources website with something for everyone who likes science fiction in any of its cultural art forms.

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Wood owl

Wood owl refers to several species of owls of genus Strix, with a round face and no ear-tufts
 * Spotted wood owl, Strix seloputo
 * Mottled wood owl, Strix ocellata
 * Brown wood owl, Strix leptogrammica
 * Bartels's wood owl or Javan wood owl, Strix (leptogrammica) bartelsi
 * Himalayan wood owl, Strix (leptogrammica) newarensis
 * Barred owl, Strix varia (also called wood owl)
 * African wood owl, Strix woodfordii (formerly Ciccaba woodfordii)

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Sultaana Freeman

Sultaana Lakiana Myke Freeman (born 1967) is a Muslim American, resident in the state of Florida. She garnered media attention and notoriety when she sued the state of Florida over the right to wear a face veil for her driver's license picture.

Background
Born as Sandra Michele Keller in Washington, D.C. in 1967, she attended school in Decatur, Illinois. In 1985, she enrolled at Millikin University in Decatur, Illinois, graduating in 1989 with a degree in Commercial Music and a Business Administration minor. Later in 1989, she began employment at a utility company which lasted for a ten-year period, in which she was an engineering assistant. She converted to Islam in January 1997, initially only wearing the headscarf, but, by the end of the year, donning the full face veil (niqab). She married Mark Freeman, also known as Abdul Malik Freeman, on October 14, 1997, in Champaign County, Illinois. In December 1997, she obtained an Illinois driver's license with the veil, to reflect her new appearance.

Timeline
1997
 * January - Converts to Islam
 * August - Legally changes her forename to "Sultaana"
 * October - Meets and marries Abdul-Maalik Freeman
 * December - Obtains an Illinois driver's license wearing the face veil in the photo and begins regularly veiling her face while working and elsewhere in public

2001
 * February - Sultaana Freeman obtains a Florida driver's license wearing the face veil in the photo
 * November/December - Freeman receives two letters demanding her to unveil for a new photo or her current license will be cancelled before expiring

2002
 * Jan. 7 - Freeman's license is cancelled
 * Jan. 21 - Freeman's lawsuit is filed, represented by lawyer Howard Marks and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)
 * June 25 - Plaintiff's Response to Defendant's Motion to Dismiss
 * June 27 - Orange County Circuit Judge Ted Coleman denies a motion by the state to dismiss Freeman's lawsuit

2003
 * May 27–29 - Freeman vs DMV trial takes place in Orlando residing under Circuit Court Judge Janet C. Thorpe
 * June 6 - Janet C. Thorpe rules against Freeman
 * July 3 - Freeman appeals
 * Oct 31- Freeman files Appellate briefs; awaiting a response from Defendant by the end of the year

2004
 * June 9 - Appellate Court Oral arguments

Florida lawsuit
In 2002, Freeman filed a religious discrimination lawsuit against Florida when the state's Department of Highway Safety suspended her license when she refused to be re-photographed without her veil. Her legal license was suspended without change in policy or law following the September 11, 2001 attacks. Her lawsuit argued that her religious beliefs required her to wear a veil "in front of strangers and unrelated males". It also stated that other states allowed photo-free licenses for religious reasons. Judge Janet C. Thorpe denied her lawsuit that year, and a state appeals court later upheld Thorpe's ruling.

It emerged during trial by Assistant Attorney General Jason Vail that pictures of Freeman's uncovered face had already been taken by government authorities in Illinois. In 1998, she and her husband hesitated when medical staff at a hospital asked to examine twin 3-year-old girls, described as in “Muslim attire”, in their foster care. Freeman and her husband apparently objected to any examination of the girls on the grounds that any such exam would violate their religious beliefs. One of the girls had a broken arm, and both had numerous bruises and marks on their bodies. The Freemans did take the girls to the hospital because of their injury.

The arrest not only resulted in Freeman's mugshot being taken without veil, but also in her conviction for aggravated battery and a sentence of 18 months probation.

In 1999, Freeman again posed for a police mugshot in connection with her husband's arrest on July 4. She was not charged but her husband was later convicted of reckless discharge of a handgun and sentenced to probation. Mazen Sukkar, a Lebanese-born immigration attorney, told the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel: "This is not Muhammad Ali refusing to kill during a war. This is one individual who wants to practice her religion and undermine the whole idea of identification."

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Jump (Kris Kross song)

"Jump" is a song by American hip hop duo Kris Kross, released on February 6, 1992 by Ruffhouse and Columbia, as their first single from their debut studio album, Totally Krossed Out (1992). It was produced by Jermaine Dupri and Joe "The Butcher" Nicolo, and achieved international success, topping charts in Switzerland, Australia, and the United States. Additionally, it was the third-best-selling song of 1992 in the United States, with sales of 2,079,000 physical copies that year. The song's accompanying music video was directed by Rich Murray and filmed in Atlanta. Billboard magazine featured "Jump" in their lists of "Billboard's Top Songs of the '90s" in 2019 and "500 Best Pop Songs of All Time" in 2023.

Chart performance
"Jump" was very successful on the charts all over the world and remains the duo's biggest hit. In Europe, the song reached number-one in Finland, Ireland and Switzerland, as well as on the Eurochart Hot 100. It peaked at number two in Denmark, Germany, Norway, the Netherlands, Sweden and the United Kingdom. Additionally, the single entered the top 10 also in Austria (7), Belgium (3), France (5), Greece (6) and Italy (5). In the UK, it peaked in its second week at the UK Singles Chart, on May 31, 1992. It was held off the top by KWS' cover song "Please Don't Go". Outside Europe, "Jump" went to number-one in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Zimbabwe and on both the Billboard Hot 100 and the Billboard Hot Rap Songs chart in the United States. The song kept Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody", En Vogue's "My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It)" and the Red Hot Chili Peppers' "Under the Bridge" from the top spot on the Billboard Hot 100, in which all three songs peaked at number two. It was the fastest selling single in fifteen years and stayed on top of the Hot 100 for eight weeks.

It was awarded with a silver record in France and both a platinum record and a 2× platinum record in the US. Kris Kross's debut album Totally Krossed Out, which features "Jump", sold over four million copies. At the time of its eight-week run, it was the longest running No. 1 since The Police's "Every Breath You Take" spent eight weeks at No. 1 in the summer of 1983. On July 23, 2021 the single was certified Silver by the British Phonographic Industry in the UK.

Reception
Steve Huey from AllMusic called the song "irresistible", adding, "actually, the miggeda-miggeda-mack bit proves they're not bad rappers". J.D. Considine from The Baltimore Sun felt "it's the musical maturity they show that makes them seem dope beyond their years", noting the "reggae-inflected cadences" of "Jump". Larry Flick from Billboard wrote that this "energetic pop/hip-hopper showcases fast-talking, baby-voiced male rappers that may initially draw comparisons to Another Bad Creation." He also described the song as "radio-friendly" and "melodic". Clark and DeVaney from Cashbox commented, "For such young guys, they deliver some pretty impressive lyrics and have a slammin' music track on their debut single. You can be sure to hear more from this group in the near future." James Bernard from Entertainment Weekly noted, "Play the group’s hyperactive platinum single ”Jump” at any party and watch the floors quake. To their credit, the two rappers don’t rely on their production team’s musical prowess. Smith (who calls himself Daddy Mack) and Kelly (Mack Daddy) grip their microphones with so much confidence that if they didn’t sound so youthful, you might forget they’re just barely out of grade school." Dave Sholin from the Gavin Report stated, "These two twelve year-olds from Atlanta are about to bounce in only one direction—to the top of the chart." Bruce Britt from Los Angeles Daily News described the song as "bubble gum rap".

Dennis Hunt from Los Angeles Times said it "is high quality--like just about everything on the album." Another Los Angeles Times editor, Robert Hilburn, wrote, "A classic slice of teen exuberance, also dressed up in today’s dance-minded hip-hop sparkle." Pan-European magazine Music & Media remarked that "these 12-year-old boys have formed a real rap posse. They sound as determined as Michael Jackson at that age." Alan Jones from Music Week stated that "against an unusually fresh and eclectic backdrop, the two 13-year-old rappers make a highly infectious noise incorporating some ragga influences". A reviewer from People Magazine felt that "their best trick is inserting catchily melodic refrains in the middle of their free-stylin' raps. That should help them kross over to pop. And cheek the speed at which they spin out their ragamuffin rhymes on "Jump" and "Warm It Up". Obviously the tongue matures before the rest of the body." James Hamilton from the Record Mirror Dance Update deemed it a "jaunty "jump, jump" prodded jiggly lurcher". Hannah Ford from Select wrote that it is "a beautiful hip hop track that gets your goose bumps quacking. It's Public Enemy's wailing sax break with Naughty By Nature's b-line." Bunny Sawyer from Smash Hits gave it five out of five, commenting, "Their tune's a work of hip-hop genius that comes complete with easy-peasy dance steps to make us all look as cross as them." An editor of Sunday Tribune described it as a "infectious rallying cry".

Music video
A music video was produced to promote the single, directed by Rich Murray. It featured the duo's unique hip hop fashion style and was heavily rotated on Music Television channels. Murray shot the video in Atlanta for a fee of $21,000. At the time of filming, it snowed in Atlanta for the first time in 20 years and they experienced significant snowfall. Murray would also be directing the video for the duo's next single, "Warm It Up". "Jump" was later made available by Vevo on YouTube in 2010, and it had generated more than 157 million views as of early 2024. The video also appeared in the Sega video game Make My Video: Kris Kross.

Impact and legacy
"Jump" ranked number 75 on "VH1's 100 Greatest Songs of the 90's", and number two on their "Child Stars" Top 10 list. In 2004, Q magazine featured the song in their list of "The 1010 Songs You Must Own". In 2010, Blender listed it number 373 on its list of "Greatest Songs Since You Were Born". The same year, the song (mislabeled as "Jump, Jump") was ranked at No. 34 on the list of the 100 Worst Songs Ever by Matthew Wilkening of AOL Radio, who tells the reader not to blame the kids of Kris Kross, but to look behind the curtain for Treach and Dupri, whom he labeled as "true villains". In 2019, Billboard placed it at number 97 in their ranking of "Billboard's Top Songs of the '90s". Four years later, the magazine ranked it number 347 in their "500 Best Pop Songs of All Time". In February 2024, Billboard ranked "Jump" number 34 in their "The 100 Greatest Jock Jams of All Time".

Track listings

 * 7" single Columbia
 * 1) "Jump" – 3:17
 * 2) "Lil' Boys in Da Hood" – 3:04

 * CD single
 * 1) "Jump" – 3:17
 * 2) "Lil' Boys in Da Hood" – 3:04

 * 12" maxi – US
 * 1) "Jump" (radio edit) – 3:17
 * 2) "Jump" (extended mix) – 5:09
 * 3) "Jump" (instrumental mix) – 3:17
 * 4) "Lil Boys in Da Hood" – 3:04

 * 12" maxi – US
 * 1) "Jump" (super cat mix) – 4:35
 * 2) "Jump" (instrumental) – 3:32
 * 3) "Jump" (extended dance mix) – 6:47
 * 4) "Jump" (super cat dessork mix) – 3:52

 * CD maxi – US
 * 1) "Jump" (extended dance mix) – 6:52
 * 2) "Jump" (super cat dessork mix) – 3:54
 * 3) "Jump" (super cat mix) – 4:37
 * 4) "Jump" (instrumental) – 3:33

 * CD maxi – Germany
 * 1) "Jump" (radio edit) – 3:17
 * 2) "Jump" (extended mix) – 5:09
 * 3) "Jump" (instrumental mix) – 3:17
 * 4) "Lil Boys in Da Hood" – 3:04

 * Cassette
 * 1) "Jump" (radio edit) – 3:17
 * 2) "Lil' Boys in Da Hood" – 3:04
 * 3) "Jump" (radio edit) – 3:17
 * 4) "Lil' Boys in Da Hood" – 3:04

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List of Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series) episodes

Battlestar Galactica is an American military science fiction television series, and part of the Battlestar Galactica franchise. The show was developed by Ronald D. Moore as a re-imagining of the 1978 Battlestar Galactica television series created by Glen A. Larson. The series first aired as a three-hour miniseries (comprising four broadcast hours) in December 2003 on the Sci-Fi Channel. The television series debuted in the United Kingdom on Sky1 on October 18, 2004, and premiered in the United States on the Sci-Fi Channel on January 14, 2005.

The story arc of Battlestar Galactica is set in a distant star system, where a civilization of humans live on a series of planets known as the Twelve Colonies of Kobol. In the past, the Colonies had been at war with a cybernetic race of their own creation, known as the Cylons. With the self-serving and venal help of a human named Gaius Baltar, the Cylons, some now in human form, launch a sudden sneak attack on the Colonies, laying waste to the planets and devastating their populations. Out of a population numbering in the billions, only approximately 50,000 humans survive, most of whom were aboard civilian spaceships that avoided destruction. Of all the Colonial Fleet, the eponymous battlestar Galactica appears to be the only military capital ship that survived the attack. Under the leadership of Colonial Fleet officer Commander William "Bill" Adama and President Laura Roslin, the Galactica and its crew take up the task of leading the small fugitive fleet of survivors into space in search of a fabled refuge known as Earth.

Home media
Notes:

 * 1) In addition to the Blu-ray Disc releases, this set was also released on HD DVD, on December 4, 2007.
 * 2) Razor, though being a television movie, is considered to be the first two episodes of season 4, hence the fourth season is technically 22 episodes and runs from 2007 to 2009.
 * 3) This set does not contain the second half of Season 4, also known as The Final Season.
 * 4) This set does not contain The Plan.
 * 5) This set also contains the complete 1978 Battlestar Galactica series, including Galactica 1980.
 * 6) This set also contains Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome, the complete Caprica series, the complete 1978 Battlestar Galactica series, the complete Galactica 1980 series, and the 1978 feature film based on the original series pilot episode. This set has been released in European French speaking countries only.

Online availability
In January 2006, Apple began offering the episodes for the miniseries, season 1, and season 2 for purchase on the U.S. version of the iTunes Store. In December 2007, the Battlestar Galactica episodes were removed from iTunes along with other NBC Universal content. The episodes returned to iTunes when NBC Universal announced their return to iTunes in September 2008. In February 2009, the series became available in high-definition format at the UK iTunes Store.

The series has also been available via Peacock, Amazon Video, Google Play, Hulu, Netflix, PlayStation Network, and Xbox Video. 78 episodes have been made available on the BBC iPlayer as of September 2020.


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Stevedore knot

The stevedore knot is a stopper knot, often tied near the end of a rope. It is more bulky and less prone to jamming than the closely related figure-eight knot.

"The bight is given one more half turn than in the former knot [which itself is given, "one additional half twist," more than the figure-eight knot], before the end is finally stuck."

- The Ashley Book of Knots

Naming
In The Art of Knotting & Splicing, Cyrus Day explains that "the name originated in a pamphlet issued about 1890 by the C.W. Hunt Company, which sold rope under the name 'Stevedore'. It was subsequently adopted by dictionaries, engineers' handbooks, and other works of reference, and it is now firmly established in books, if not in the vocabulary of seamen."

Despite this history, many sources, including The Ashley Book of Knots, presume that the knot was used by stevedores in their work loading and unloading ships. The apparent aspect of the knot favored by transmission-line workers (to which the Hunt pamphlet was targeted) is the knot's remaining easily untied after heavy loading. It should also be noted that the extra wrap that it has over the figure 8 stopper will, with flexible cordage, give better security when set.

Tying

The knot is formed by following the steps to make a figure-of-eight knot, but the working end makes an additional wrap around the standing part before passing back through the initial loop in the same direction it would have for a figure-of-eight knot (which yields a more secure & stable knot than were it to be a half-wrap less (a "Fig.9")).

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