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User talk:Alex Sims

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RE: Suburb Co-ordinates
Hi Softgrow. I used Geoscience Australia as the standard for all suburbs. See North Adelaide. You're welcome to revert the change.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 11:42, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Yamanote Line
Hi. I knew about the Japanese version of the template for train lines, and have been using its format for the other lines that were made so far. Making a template template is nice, and it will save some time. Thanks for creating it, and I see you started to convert some of the existing lines already. Great! I'll use it for some lines I have the stations all ready for... and I also am happy I found your User:Softgrow/Railway_line_WIP page of colors.

One reason that I didn't copy the Japanese template/template exactly was because of an idea I have been formulating regarding the mapping of GIS data for the stations into a miniature map graphic on the side of the template, to give an idea of the train line's geography. (That is a major WIP of mine when I'm not distracted with other stuff) Also, I like some of the recent edits to Template:Sendai-Subway (the logo in the corners). I wasn't sure if the mini-map would work well in the template/template or not, and now I don't know about the logo either. And, since everything has an exception (or two), lines like Template:Tohoku Main Line and Template:Tohoku Shinkansen need different ways to deal with their branches and overall length.

As for the circle on the Yamanote line, I like the circle better, which is why I deviated from the pattern of the other lines that I made earlier. I've also seen a few comments from others who liked it. I agree that the space taken up by all of the templates is an issue, but there may be other ways to solve it. For the time being, I'd like to revert it back -- I'll remove the colored background, and give it a border instead. When I do that, I'll also put my reasons/preferences for the revert in the talk page of the template, where I'd like to move this discussion about the case for/against the circle and maybe discuss other alternatives to shrink this particular template size down (and the others as well).

- Neier 11:40, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

speed bumps
I was a bit surprised at your removal of my bit about bicycles. As a cyclist I can tell you that what I wrote was a fact - speed bumps don't inconvenience cyclists. It appears that it's been reinserted in modified form, so no matter. Gwaka Lumpa 12:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Looking at your edit of speed bumps from yesterday (and boy you are fast - don't you have something else to do?), it seems that what the person who put those statements in were quite obvious and to any lay person reasonable assumptions to be made about such bumps. Ask yourself, if the bumps didn't do anything and were completely benign drivers wouldn't be distracted by them nor would their cars be damaged by them. For such a device to work, there has to be a negative effect. That negative effect is both to be unpleasent to driver over (you should know what it's like to hit a pot hole - the editor is right they're the same!) and that they can damage cars.

I would suggest that you recosider your edits. Also, I believe that driver discomfort and car damage were both published in an edition of Auto Express. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.57.27 (talk) 11:28, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Wikipedia is not about the obvious, that is original research. Material needs to be backed by publication. It's not our role to write down the obvious, it is ours to record what other's have discovered. See WP:NOR. If you find the reference for the speed bumps article and it is a reliable source then by all means put it in (and consider the benefits of signing up for a username too!) Alex Sims 12:28, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Just for you, searched the internet and found the correct referencies for you. The Times should meet all your necessary criteria, but I know of a couple of other referncies that support this. I think it is quite clear that the use of speed bumps in the UK is grossly excessive and that a more detailed search would easily find more evidence for you. In fact, see http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/67775/speed_humps_dumped_after_protest.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.253.232 (talk) 16:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Well done in removing more valid comments on speed bumps - and there was an international reference if you cared to look at those. I belive that you are not showing a neutral point of view on these and for some reason are very biased. Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.67.48 (talk) 11:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Railways
Hello Softgrow. I see you have been editing the railways section in Adelaide. Heaps good. For the Finsbury railway station, I have it marked Finsbury on a UBD wallpaper map I have - unfortunately the wall map doesn't have anything about the year of publication at all(I suspect sometime in the 70s). Also, as I was the only editor to that page, feel free to contact me directly, it is more likely to be noticed and I would be pleased (not indignant) to reply to your query. Also my map doesn't have the Semaphore and Exeter train stations, so could you please go to Semaphore, South Australia and Exeter, South Australia and describe the previous location and presence of the railway line and stations in the suburb as I have done in Woodville North, South Australia as I feel that this is an important and relevant historical aspect of the suburb. Also you could describe where exactly the line was as I have done on Finsbury railway line, Adelaide as people no longer have maps which will tell them such information about the geography of the railway line and its neighbourhood. Happy editing.Blnguyen 00:29, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Speed limit archives
Hey, I noticed that you resurrected a mis-linked speed limit archives. I did more digging, and I found that the one I originally created had a lower-cased L on "limit." That explans the red link.

I appreciate what you did, but I think it may be best to stick with the original one so that nobody gets suspicious when looking at the history tab. I fixed that link to use a lower-case l on "limit." This page also has some text that is supposedly Wikipedia-compliant for archives.

If you agree, could you flag Talk:Speed_Limit/Archive01 for speedy delete?

Thanks, Novasource 21:07, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Agreed, I've applied a tag. Softgrow 22:41, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Adelaide Railway Station
Having each template is excessive, which is why I intend to replace them with station adjacency templates. The complete line information could be retained for use in each line article.--cj | talk 06:28, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Gawler Line!
I used Adobe photoshop, I took a screenshot of the map from the Metro Adelaide website. :) Empty2005 02:26, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Nationals colour
The colour in use was near-black, when the party, ABC and most other political sources use forest green to represent it. The Tom 06:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Please continue discussion at Template talk:Australian politics/party colours/Nationals Softgrow 06:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Speed limit articles I've removed from my watchlist
This is on my talk page so you are welcome to comment. I've just removed: from my watchlist. I'm finding it a waste of my time to continually edit articles where other editors wish to pursue liberterian views about speed limits instead of producing a great encyclopedia. I've now got a watchlist that isn't nearly as active and time consuming. Softgrow 10:52, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Association of British Drivers
 * Safe Speed
 * Safety Camera Partnership
 * I think this is a mistake. Collaboration between editors with opposing views is a way to build a great encyclopaedia - walking away and letting POV pushers have their way is not! Just zis Guy you know? 11:27, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm finding the continual use of the Burden of proof (logical fallacy) a bit wearing. Something silly get's inserted and then I need to find a reference that disproves it. The sillier it is the less likely I'll find a reference.
 * I would disagree about the collaboration. The articles above have very few redeeming features. In some cases (Speed limit) yes there is collaboration to a degree, here I don't think so. You would never find an article like the ones listed in Encyclopædia Britannica.Softgrow 12:06, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't blame you for this. Some of those articles are just awful -- so many people are pushing the cameras are bad POV and will include any link from local papers or whatever to push that POV. It gets wearing setting published research against reports in various local rags. Thanks for removing "thenewspaper" links -- I'd been wanting to do that but was worried it would seem like I was pushing my own POV. --Richard Clegg 12:54, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
Hey Softgrow, thanks for expressing interest in WikiProject Trains in Japan! Quite frankly, I'm surprised so many people have signed up in such a short period of time. I hope we can get enough people to start it soon. Meanwhile, I'll be looking around for more interested people, so if you know someone who might, please tell them about the Project! Cheers, Tangotango 10:25, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * We now have 5 people interested in the project, and I've created the project page at WikiProject Trains in Japan, shortcut WP:TJ. For now the page is a bit disorganized, but I hope we can improve that soon. Well, hope to see you on the project page! (Please add your name to the Participants list). Cheers, Tangot a ngo 02:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Survey of Wikipedian engineers
Just a note to say that I responded to your comment on User talk:Mbeychok/MRB's Survey of Wikipedian Engineers. mbeychok 19:36, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Australia/Anniversaries
Hi Softgrow. I have started a proposal at Portal talk:Australia for an inclusion of an anniversary/on this day section to be displayed on the portal. If you are interested in this making this happen, you can comment there or go to the anniversary pages and adding in things that you consider to be notable. Regards, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 07:39, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Meetup on 24th August 2006
Apologies if you're already aware of this, but the Inaugural Adelaide Meetup will take place on Thursday 24th of August at Brougham Place Uniting Church, thanks to Alex Sims. Please indicate if you will attend or not.

This message left by May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) on behalf of [ælfəks], 10:11, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi there, have you been organising this? That's really great of you! Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to make it, as I don't finish lectures 'til 9PM on a Thursday; also, having only lived in Adelaide for about 7 months, I still find myself on the verge of cardiac arrest everytime I try to drive to the city from Bedford Park :p So, I'm really sorry, but I don't think I'll be able to make it there. However, I am very interested in what you guys will talk about, and I'll keep an eye out for your minutes. Hope you have a good time there, — riana_dzasta • t • c • e  • ER • 10:18, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

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I am disappointed that I didn't make it to the meetup last time, and am very thankful that someone took the time to organise it - any chance you could have a go again? :) It seemed like the perfect time and location, really. michael talk 08:20, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks and a Question
Alex, thanks for organising the meetup - great to meet people offline at last !

Could you point me to the converstation with Tony re: transparency and proxies ? I forgot about it until, yet again, my IP's proxy is blocked and I have to edit via the slooooow secure server link - Peripitus (Talk) 10:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

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Speed bumps
Not sure you're correctly attributing parts to ABD. While they certainly do talk about the issues, it's normally because someone else has already pointed out the problems with these bumps etc. Therefore, I'd suggest changing from criticisms made by ABD to some highlighted by ABD. At least two points in that part were brought up by Auto Express magazine, with tests to show that noise and fuel consumption were significantly greater when in speed bumped areas.

London congestion charge - Criticisms of the charge - rv POV image designed by an editor (or is original research?))
hi alex. perhaps because i am a new contributor, i don't understand "rv POV image designed by an editor (or is original research?)". please tell me why you removed my original image. it is a legitimate illustration of the equipment installed to facilitate the congestion charge and of criticisms related to it. cheers, rob

Preferred spelling vs. acceptable spelling
We'll have to agree to disagree on the "barbeque" issue. My research indicates that "barbecue" is the preferred spelling of the word, although "barbeque" is considered acceptable in Australian English. I see no reason not to use the preferred spelling. If a source can be found that identifies "barbeque" as the primary or preferred spelling in Australian English, I offer my sincerest apologies for the needless correction.

 * I have cited sources that use barbeque for the Glover playground in the article. PS don't forget to sign your comments. Alex Sims 07:17, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

 * Yep, great work! Really enjoyed it, looking forward to the next one (which someone else will organise, I'm sure!) Nice meeting you, – Riana ऋ 07:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure you don't want to go for the hat trick :P Thanks for your effort Alex – it was a pleasure meeting you. Happy editing,--cj | talk 11:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

85th percentile rule explanation
Could you give me some reason why you revered back no citation? I'm just curious? The source seems reliable in that it explains clearly in layman terms why 85th percentile rule exist using generalities with statistics. Please provide counterexample on the web to verify your claims — 6etonyourfeet\t\c 02:26, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, since you removed that source you can revert all my modifications to the section since it is entirely based on that unreliable resource just to let you know. — 6etonyourfeet\t\c 02:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

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Brougham Place, North Adelaide
Hey Alex I was looking through Australia related new pages and staggered into Brougham Place, North Adelaide.

Would you be able to have another go at the lead sentence / paragraph and make it's importance as a street with so many heritage listed buildings stand out more? I know what the article really needs is a range of images to go with all the heritage listed buildings.

I am concerned that although the buildings each individually meet WP:N, through having been the subject of heritage assessments - does this street also meet WP:N? It certainly doesn't jump out at me that it does. Garrie 05:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Barbecues
I don't think 'Barbeque' is local spelling, just bad spelling. I did check before making the change: see Talk:Barbecue which cites Australian, British and American dictionaries as prefering 'Barbecue'.

Ewen 05:29, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Fadden Barbeques/Barbecues
Nineteen edits have been made on the Fadden, Australian Capital Territory article since the start of this year; nine of these have occured in the last three days over the spelling of "barbeque/barbeque". Perhaps we should all find something more useful to contribute to the article? WA Burdett 12:12, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Speed Limit Article
I noticed you removed my paragraph about "Political Considerations" with a rationale of POV. Well I've just added back the paragraph with references to these statements; which by the way are well known and would be even better known if people were to read about them on WIKI. The references should satisfy your opinion that the paragraph was POV. FrankWilliams 17:37, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Please Continue discussion at Talk:Speed limit so it's not just you and me talking about this topic. Alex Sims 04:38, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:NAA logo.jpg Thanks
Hi. I just wanted to thank you for clarifying the fair use rationale which I put up, after it was put up for deletion. Im not sure why it was tagged as I read and followed Non-free content before putting the rationale up. Thanks. Tbo 157  talk  09:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC) I found out it was tagged for deletion as the article title in teh rationale was incorrect. Thanks. Tbo 157  (talk)    (review)  22:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Luck of seven
Hello Alex Noel Hidalgo is coming to Adelaide on Friday October 12 He will be at the Central Market for breakfast at Lucias 8am He is doing the http://luckofseven.com tour. He is interested in meeting open source and free culture folk around the world. Feel free to email me to check up about other times. eg. Perhaps the Richmnd Hotel upstairs after 5pm on Friday evening for coffee drinks chat kinds of things. Cheers Lucychili 20:41, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Adelaide Wikimeetup 3
Hi Alex - we're planning a third meetup in Adelaide sometime in the coming weeks, and would love to have you there. If you can, please help decide a location, a date and a time here. Thanks!

Adelaide Wikimeetup 3
Hi Alex Sims - after some planning we've decided to hold the third Adelaide Wikimeetup on Sunday, 17th February, 2008. The meeting will be held at Billy Baxter's in Rundle Mall at 11:30AM. Further details and directions are available on the meetup page. Please RSVP here by 20:00UTC on 15th February 2008 (that's 6AM Saturday for our time zone) so that we can inform the restaurant about numbers. Hope to see you there!

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Revised
Hi Alex - since Sunday is inconvenient for many people due to church, we are rescheduling for Saturday. I hope this will enable you to attend! Best, ~ Riana ⁂ 11:44, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Primary schools in Australia
Hey, I've noticed you started three categories for primary schools in NSW, SA & Vic. I'm just curious as to why you've done this, given that each cat has 3-4 articles in it, in general, it seems that 25-30 articles is the norm to start a sub-cat. Thoughts? Five Years 17:56, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I was looking for a particular primary school and found it hard to find. I then noticed that all schools had subcats by state except Primary schools. This inconsistency was what I am fixing. You are right that there are only 3-4 articles but no-one has moved all the primary schools in and potentially there are hundreds for each if the articles ever get written. Alex Sims (talk) 11:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Categories are made out of a need, not because people feel that it is inconsistent not to have them. There are potentially hundreds? I beg to differ, in my experience, primary schools are generally not notable, and are frequently being deleted, both via PROD and AfD. There may be a case for a Category:Primary schools in New South Wales, and a Category:Primary schools in Victoria, but I don't see it going any further than that. Thoughts? Five Years 15:42, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I had a read through the guidelines and they are meant as an aid to navigation. I couldn't find any reference to a minimum count per category, but for the moment I'll stick to just the larger ones (ie Vic and NSW). The proposed enhancement for Intersection Categories is something to look forward to as it would make all this much easier (and give lots of nice semantic possibilities). Alex Sims (talk) 10:56, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Picture suggestion
Thanks Alex for your suggestion. I will post a pic of Sol Trujillo shortly. I also plan to provide some suggestions for citations for the Telstra Mobiles section on the discussion page on the Telstra page. Tarnya Dunning (talk) 00:45, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Tarnya Dunning —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarnya Dunning (talk • contribs) 02:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

template bug

 * There was indeed a template bug with a few Japanese railway templates earlier today, which I asked about on IRC. Apparently when a template listed on CSD was deleted, the article got hit instead and the template remained (with no hint of a db transclusion inside). It got fixed but I guess this one wasn't caught. Thanks for letting me know about this (and please let me know if you see anything else). Cheers, Gwen Gale (talk) 23:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks like someone's cut and paste move of one or more templates had something to do with this. By the time I saw it on CSD it was very odd! Gwen Gale (talk) 23:52, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Merging
I got the message. I think it's a good idea! Thanks Alex Iaineight (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 15:43, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Changing username
A note to myself that I am wanting to change my Commons and ja wikipedia userid "Softgrow" to "Alex Sims" as I am here. Alex Sims (talk) 01:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Speed Limit#Opposition
What exactly should this section look like? What should it say? How should it say it? I agree that it is messy. If you explore those sources of criticism, you'll find that they do indeed oppose speed limits on the bases listed. If there is WP:OR violation it's probably more WP:SYN, for ascribing such views to critics writ large. Synchronism (talk) 05:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

 * Firstly your right, its more synthesis by editors than original research. The section should disappear as Criticism sections marginialise and isolate criticism and the usual approach to clean up is to have the points worked into the article. However most of these are odd's and sod's put in by editors and don't represent the position of anyone as a whole. To be honest I'm not sure how to clean up a synthesis by editors. Let's both have a think... Alex Sims (talk) 05:38, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

ADS-10
Regarding this edit and the comment, "10 no longer there": Yes, I noticed them down on the corner of Wakefield & Hutt, and wondered about the North Adelaide site. Do you know what that site is being used for now? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 07:02, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Residential development with the main (historic) building being retained. Check the Adelaide City Council DAP agendas/minutes for more details. Alex Sims (talk) 01:47, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

"Residential development" - Hmmmmm. Sad, but predictable. Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 02:27, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

An article you !voted on in an AfD is up for deletion a second time
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Rumble Strips: Why did you delete my contribution?
Hi Alex Sims, Why did you remove my sections? I'm new to wiki and I assume that "rm unsourced POV" means "removed unsourced point-of-view", however, I did provide the sourse of my quotes. Also, I intend to provide more references soon as I had indicated.

So, "rm unsourced POV" doesn't appear to be the actual reason. I noticd you did something similar with Speed Bumps contributions.

I didn't remove anyone else's work even though I don't agree with their "point-of-view". Alberto —Preceding unsigned comment added by Albertoarmstrong (talk • contribs) 20:00, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi Alex,

I read the policy I don't don't believe I violated it. Everything I wrote is based around direct quotes taken out of research papers that actually promotes rumble strip and most of these are published or sponsed by the US Federal Highway Adminstration (FHWA) or national accident statistics.

The problem is that the Effectiveness section (that I didn't write) appears biaised in favour of rumble strips as one of the references appears from a contractor's promotional material and they have a vested interested in hyping thier services to install rumble strip to make money (i.e. sales pitch). Also, it was a superfical discussion and I added a deeper dicussion of what actually occurs. They was no mention of migration, shoulder width, etc..

At least now, the article is balanced or "neutral" so people can read it and make up their own minds.

So, there isn't a violation of policy.

Alberto —Preceding unsigned comment added by Albertoarmstrong (talk • contribs) 10:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Rumble Strips NPOV Part II
Hi Alex, Please provide specifics of how the Wiki policy is violated. --Albertoarmstrong (talk) 16:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Alex: I re-read the policy and I don't believe I'm in violation. It appears the ad hominem claim has to have a "derogatory" or a "false" spin and I don't believe I did that. Also, I thought may be you would reply that you had fallen asleep at the wheel once and rumble strips saved you from a serious accident, but you did not. So, why do you have a interest in this subject when it's not even listed on your user page? It appears that something is not adding up.

Also, after you initiated the NPOV we were suppose to have a back-and-forth discussion on the content, but you appeared to have avoided the debate (see Part I on Talk Page) and left the matter hanging. It appears you're not interested in resolving the NPOV despite my best efforts and patience. Also, the viewership is up slightly since 4 months ago, but no one else appears to have NPOV concerns over the current version of this article - just you.

Albertoarmstrong (talk) 12:29, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Alex,

I just removed firvolous NPOV banner/compliant (Feb 10, 2010) and your questionable Ghana and New Zealand references (refer to Rumble Strip Talk Page for explanation). Questionable sources/interptation violate the NPOV policy.

The article gets about 90 hits per day and over the past 4 months it appears you're the only person with NPOV concerns. Your NPOV compliant is firvolous as per my defense on the Talk Page that you never countered.

Your recent "Personal Attack and Conflict of Interest" compliant against me was also firvolous (as per the Wiki editors' evaluation). I suspect your going to file another complaint against me, but given your actions (and/or inactions) over the past 4 months it will most likely backfire on you. Albertoarmstrong (talk) 22:15, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Alex,

I already consulted a Wiki editor Dolphin recently about this and was adivised if there was no opposition to removing the firvolous NPOV banner then I could take it down. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts.

The banner (and Talk Page section) has been up since Feb 10, 2010 (over 4 months) and nobody has a showed interest. These banner should have an expiration date and anything less is subject to abuse. 4 months is long enough. Even cheques are stale dated after 6 months. The concern with leaving it up indefinately is that whomever intiates it is hoping if they leave it up long enough someone will finally support them. After 4 months and about 90 views per day - nobody - time to take it down and move forward. Albertoarmstrong (talk) 12:09, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Removal of NPOV Baner and NZ reference
Hello, Alex. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--Albertoarmstrong (talk) 16:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

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Romanization for words of English origin
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Meetup June 12
Hi! I just wanted to let you know that Liam Wyatt is in town, so we were thinking of doing a quick meetup at Brunelli's cafe in Rundle Street (at the Rundle Mall end, near the car park) at 6pm on Sunday, with a possibility of drinks afterwards. So if you're interested we hope to see you there. :) - Bilby (talk) 12:47, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Speed limtit signs - Derestriction
First off, I'd be very thankful if you would stop removing my text about the derestriction sign in New Zealand. I spent weeks downloading all their road signs in EPS from the MOT website, converting them to SVG, uploading them to Commons, and creating the article Road signs in New Zealand. I know very intimately what that sign means, and can back it up. As for Australia, the sign is still in the online PDFs provided by New South Wales, Northern Territory and South Australia, and as long as it's on the books, it is a legal and valid sign.  Fry1989  eh? 23:22, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You want a citation, here you go, NSW and South Australia (notice it's version date is 2011). Both have it on the books, and fairly recent too. It's a valid sign, whether it's (commonly, cause there's plenty of pics up this sign still up) used or not.  Fry1989  eh?   00:04, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If further discussion is wanted, please do so on the article talk page, so it is obvious to all editors. Alex Sims (talk) 02:35, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Japan Railway Line
You might be interested in this discussion. Frietjes (talk) 23:16, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

WP:BURDEN
As a reminder, you may not return any challenged content to an article including Call detail record without providing a valid inline citation. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  11:54, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Telstra source
Hi. the source you restored has a serious problem: the author of the HBR article also consulted to Telstra on the very marketing model he describes. He says so in the source itself. So there is an inherent bias in the claims of the effectiveness of the strategy and therefore I dont rate the claim that Telstra was able to "retain several point of market share" by using this strategy as "encyclopedic". Please reconsider. Thanks 101.164.50.161 (talk) 20:52, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't share your concerns. The article is from a peer reviewed journal and this will counter any bias. pleas have areas of WP:RS . P.S. You might want to consider getting a Wikipedia username. It makes communication between editors much easier, also gives you a Watchlist. Alex Sims (talk) 23:35, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think the HBR is peer reviewed 101.171.170.147 (talk) 02:32, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Harvard Business Review articles are internally reviewed and references checked. The bar for entry is quite high, and I doubt anyone would not consider the printed magazine reliable. You could argue it sits somewhere between a scholarly publication and a news article in reputation, but I would put it along with scholarly publications. If you really wanted to you could use a review article (if one exists) about the same topic instead of this reference, but I would leave the reference in. Any bias you are concerned about would have been dealt with by the editors of the HBR. Alex Sims (talk) 06:45, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Like any magazine, articles are reviewed by editor. But I seriously doubt that the content of articles is fact checked independently. Anyways, I have amended the article to reflect the reference, ie that the person who designed the Telstra program claims is works. A fair compromise Id say. 101.164.50.161 (talk) 22:46, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You seem to have a barrow to push by using straw man arguments about HBR. The same author has used the same arguments in scholarly peer-reviewed journals. Please discuss further on the article talk page not here. Alex Sims (talk) 23:26, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

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FYI - Adelaide meetup on Wednesday next week
More info here. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:40, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

 * It was decided the meeting should be written up, and that this should be a collaborative exercise. I have "started the ball rolling" at Meetup/Adelaide/Meetup 8 Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 15:22, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Technical Mentors - Unleashed (GovHack Adelaide)
You silver-tongued devil! You've seduced me!! I'm not available on Sunday, but otherwise ... Where is it happening? Pdfpdf (talk) 12:05, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Level 1, 182 Victoria Square, Adelaide (Flinders University). I have 10 page PDF from the organisers with lots of information. Alex Sims (talk) 12:12, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Suggest that, unless there is some reason not to, you upload it to commons.
 * Alternatively, you could just email it to me.
 * (And if you feel it appropriate, I could subsequently upload it to commons ... ) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:10, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

 * Sorry, I'm unable to help - I'm flat out at the moment, preparing for another event on Sunday. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 02:53, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

 * How did the event go? I was very interested but busy that entire weekend (sporting carnival). Tullyis (talk) 22:37, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Martin Haese
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Walkerville (suburb) being redistributed from Adelaide (electoral district)?
Hi, I noticed your edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Electoral_district_of_Adelaide&curid=3673541&diff=832452379&oldid=832435379 where you removed the section about Walkerville (suburb) being redistributed from Adelaide (electoral district). Whilst the section is lengthy, it's well referenced and I think has a continuing place in Wikipedia. Can I ask you to reinstate it? (I could just revert it but you seem keen :) Alex Sims (talk) 04:02, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

 * Hi there - firstly (and not that it matters all that much, but) did you know I was actually the one who created and added the paragraph in question? Anywho... it is too specific and is in the past now to take up such volume in the article. Are you aware it is all still at Rachel Sanderson where due to her actions it holds much more relevance? Also, when you say "Walkerville (suburb) being redistributed from Adelaide (electoral district)", it comes across as a statement... you are aware that Walkerville ended up untouched and unredistributed in the 2016 redistribution, don't you? Timeshift (talk) 05:00, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

 * No I didn't know you did it, it was a nice paragraph. I didn't know it was in the Rachel Sanderson article. I might add a sentence pointing to that section from the Adelaide electoral district article. I was aware that it was left untouched, but if not for the actions of the 130(?not sure of number, but it was a lot) respondents it would have ended up in another seat. It seems now, decisive in the result for Adelaide in the 2018 State election, but thats my own synthesis, I will keep an eye out for a reliable source commenting about the two. Anyway thanks for replying and keep up the good work. Alex Sims (talk) 05:37, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

 * Well the Liberals only picked up: three of the four Labor seats redistributed to them as well as the new vacant ultra-marginal seat of King, all of which (apart from Elder and King) came about via the revision between the draft and final release. Sure, on the draft redistribution, Adelaide would indeed have been won by Labor if Sanderson didn't do what was until then unprecedented (and yes, 130 respondents from her pro-forma template is by far the state record), but the draft is the draft and the final is the final. To state that Sanderson's and Walkerville's actions are what got her across the line might be true, but as you observe, it is easily challenged on synth grounds, particularly with no reliable source confirming it. It seems reasonably clear that you are in the Adelaide electorate (as am I), so perhaps it seems a bigger deal than it really is? A redistribution is only a redistribution upon the final release. Anything before that is just speculation and theory. Having said all that, in theory I wouldn't object to the properly-worded addition of a sentence pointing to the Sanderson section. Timeshift (talk) 06:01, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

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Mighty Planes
As you created Mighty Trains, I was wondering if you're interested in creating sister show Mighty Planes? (an early draft is up at DRAFT: Mighty Planes) -- 65.94.42.18 (talk) 04:49, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

1912 map of MTT tramways
G'day Alex,

This is about the high-resolution routemap from the 1912 sheet published by the MTT that you uploaded at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Adelaide-tram-bus-time-table-tram-adelaide-trams-a41.jpg in 2017. I subsequently made some minor adjustments to it, removing some of the distortion caused by folds where I could, and on the front panel, and straightening and removing the black edges. (I hope you found / will find those amendments constructive and done in good faith; if not, you have the option of "Revert".)

A friend of mine is keen on mounting a print of the map and front panel for a display. Would you be amenable to producing another scan or photo that would eliminate the folds distortion? It would be good to have an undistorted image at Wikimedia Commons too. (If I could help, please let me know.)

If you answer in the negative, that's OK; I'm only following the adage, "Don't ask, don't get"! In any event, thank you for the original upload; it has been especially useful as a source (among others) for my drawing up a diagram of routes in the later MTT era. Cheers, Simon. SCHolar44 (talk) 03:48, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Verifiability at Northfield railway line
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Request for edits by transportation engineers
Hello, I'm contacting editors who are categorized as transportation engineers. Please help improve the section about the effects of congestion pricing and its long term effects. Congpric (talk) 11:56, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

OSM
Hi Alex! I see from your userboxes that you contribute to OpenStreetMap. When using OSM for an article on Morialta Protestant Children's Home I noticed a considerable discrepancy between it and the external maps around Norton Summit but didn't know what to do about it. Is this something of interest to the OSM community? Doug butler (talk) 01:50, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Doug, happy to help by putting more detail in OpenStreetMap. Which aspect would you like fixed? Alex Sims (talk) 01:54, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Alex. No I am just confused. Taking the OSM map centred on Norton Summit and then switching to (say) Google map, I get a pin symbol at a point that has no reference to that OSM, and took it for a huge discrepancy.
 * However, I just now entered coordinates -34.9228 138.7245, which I had for the Scenic Hotel, to each of the "external maps" and it hit the right spot every time.
 * So the pin has nothing to do with any of the four data points I put on that page, or to the centre. Teaches me to be more trusting of technology and people who know what they're doing. Doug butler (talk) 06:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

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Category for MHAs
G'day Alex, thanks for your addition of that cat "MHAs should always be listed in the main cat and other submits (e.g. Women) as required." on Hood's article. Can you explain why or point me to the category guidance if any? Women MHAs seem like a child cat of MHAs to me. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:45, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

 * The note on Category:Members of the South Australian House of Assembly that says which is fairly logical as otherwise the list would only contain MHAs that are not women, not premiers, not deputy speakers etc. Far more useful to have them all listed there. Alex Sims (talk) 11:20, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

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Please, don't go against Wikipedia's MOS solely for personal reasons. Claudia Sheinbaum is listed accordingly at President of Mexico, List of presidents of Mexico, and even the article itself. This hatnote goes against the purpose of hatnotes and it is completely unjustified if ignorance is the main reason why it was added. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 07:48, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

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MTropolis

mTropolis (pronounced "metropolis") was an open-architecture multimedia programming application aimed at enabling rapid development of multimedia titles. It was developed by mFactory (pronounced "em-factory") and introduced in 1995. It introduced object-oriented concepts such as reusable objects, modifiers and behaviors into the multimedia authoring space dominated by Macromedia's Director software. mTropolis was bought in 1997 by Quark, which moved development from Burlingame, California to Denver and then cancelled the product one year later. Despite efforts by its fervent users to attempt to save their investment and beloved tool, negotiations and even a possible purchase offer never came to fruition.

History
mTropolis competed in the interactive multimedia product space dominated in the 1990s by Macromedia Director. The software's maker, mFactory, founded in 1992, variously positioned mTropolis as an alternative and as an adjunct to Director.

mTropolis was bought by Quark in 1997. The use of behaviors in mTropolis spurred Macromedia on to introduce behaviors in Director 6.0.

I was there when Seery, Shepherd, meself and probably Greggy went over to the Mtrop user meetings. We straight out stole [behaviors] from them.

- Alex Zavatone (ex Macromedia) on the Direct-L Mailing List, Tue, 9 Sep 2008

While multimedia CD-ROM authoring has largely been rendered irrelevant by online content distribution, mTropolis remains an interesting study in application design, and held a loyal following for many years.

Paradigm
The development environment was very different from the other tools around at the time - Apple Computer's HyperCard, Pitango Clickworks and others had a card based metaphor, and Macromedia Director had a film metaphor (the content area is called The Stage, the time line The Score, an assets library named The Cast, etc.). In mTropolis there were sections, subsections, and scenes. Assets would be placed onto the scene, and then combinations of behaviors and modifiers would be dragged onto the assets.

Powerful interaction and animation could be created by making different modifiers send messages to each other, allowing a user to create something impressive fairly quickly, without any typing. There was a simple programming language, accessed via a Miniscript modifier, but most of the programming was achieved by attaching standard behaviors and modifiers, and making selections within the modifier pop-up menus.

Technical Issues
According to Starship Titanic author Douglas Adams, his team had originally selected mTropolis 1.0 for its development platform but it had to be abandoned for unspecified technical insufficiencies in favor of an in-house tool.

Miniscript Limitations
One criticism of the tool was that the integrated programming language, Miniscript, was lacking key features necessary for common tasks. Because mTropolis was conceived around a visual programming metaphor, mFactory engineers intentionally omitted control constructs such as conditional loops. To remedy such limitations, the third-party developer AX Logic produced the commercially-available Alien Studio modifier as a drop-in replacement for Miniscript.

File Format
The advent in version 1.1 of the mTropolis browser plug-in for Netscape Navigator, dubbed mPire, exposed a core architectural shortcoming. The binary file format was not cross-platform; in order to make a mTropolis element available for embedding on a web page, the author was required to save a Macintosh version and a separate Windows version. Hence the web server had to store redundant copies of the same content, consuming disk space and necessitating the use of loader pages to serve the file appropriate for the end user's operating system.

Macintosh-Only Authoring
While playback engines existed for both the Macintosh and Windows platforms, the mTropolis authoring system itself only ran on the Mac.

mTropolis 1.0
January 1995: Released at MacWorld San Francisco. Retail price $4,495.

mTropolis 1.1
May 1996: Added support for QuickTime VR 1.0. Retail price $1,195.

October 1996: mFactory releases beta 1 of the mPire browser plug-in.

mTropolis 2.0
March 1997: mFactory announces pre-order sales availability for version 2.0, due to ship in "the second half of May." Retail price $995.

May 1997: Quark, Inc. purchases mFactory.

March 1998: Quark announces that v2.0 would be furnished free-of-charge to registered mTropolis v1 customers, but that the product will not be made available for general purchase.

Titles Created with mTropolis
Due to the way the mTropolis Player was separate from developer content, by viewing the files, it is easy to tell if a title was developed with mTropolis. A few CD-ROMs were created using mTropolis, including the BAFTA award winning MindGym, Scott Kim's Obsidian, A Sharp's King of Dragon Pass, Muppet Treasure Island, Voyager's Fun With Architecture, The Magic World of Beatrix Potter, SPQR: The Empire's Darkest Hour and The Day the World Broke

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Silly Fools

Silly Fools is a Thai rock band. Their music can be described as modern rock.

The group first formed in 1995, and in 1996, released an EP named Sampler on the independent label Bakery Music. The band then moved to More Music and released their first full length album, I.Q. 180, but attracted a small audience compared with that of labelmates Loso.

Silly Fools popularity increased as the musical style of their later albums was more accessible to the public. They are now considered among the top rock bands in Thailand.

Silly Fools was the winner of the favorite artist for Thailand at the 2005 MTV Asia Awards.

Overview
Silly Fools is a Thai rock band. Their music can be described as modern rock. The group first formed in 1995, and in 1996, released an EP named Sampler on the independent label Bakery Music.

The band then moved to More Music and released their first full-length album, I.Q. 180, but attracted a small audience compared with that of labelmates Loso. Silly Fools popularity increased as the musical style of their later albums was more accessible to the public. They are now considered among the top rock bands in Thailand. Silly Fools was the winner of the favorite artist for Thailand at the 2005 MTV Asia Awards.

Formation (1996)
Silly Fools original name was Silly Foolish which was founded by Jakrin Juprasit,  Gongpop Baiyaem, Weerachol Satahying and Tawalit Srisook in 1996. They submitted a demo to Bakery Music in which they made an EP Album project named Bakery Sampler with two other bands named Wiset niyom  and Stone Soul. This project was just a sample album. If the album sold up to 20,000 copies then Silly Foolish would be able to join the musical company. They then changed their name to Silly Fools because they said their name was too long.

1998–2006 Album I.Q. 180 - King Size
After their first unsuccessful EP Silly Fools had to separate for 1 year to perform normal occupations.

In 1998 Pom - Assanee Chotikul established "More Music" which was a sister company to GRAMMY which sparked the band members to try submitting a demo to them which passed the qualifications. Silly Fools then signed a contract with More Music. Silly Fools then released their first album I.Q.180 which had the song "สู้ไม่ได้" (Soo Mai Dai) and "เมื่อรักฉันเกิด" (Muer-Ruk-Chun-Kerd) which sold 40,000 which was considered as very little compared to other albums but the overall reviews were positive.

In 1999 there was a change in drummers from Gongpop Baiyaem (Toey) to Tortakul Baingern (Tor) just before the release of Candy Man. This album made Silly Fools renowned all over Thailand with record breaking sales making Silly Fools into one of the top rock bands in Thailand. Famous songs featured in this album are อย่าบอกว่ารัก (Ya Bok Wa Ruk) ฝน (Fon) นางฟ้า (Nang Fah) ไหนว่าจะไม่หลอกกัน (Nai Wa Cha Mai Lork Gun) เพียงรัก (Pieng Ruk) and Hey.

In 2000 Silly Fools announced releasing album "Mint" so this album got good feedback from the fanclub before it was released on market and the album sold over 1,000,000 packs. Hit tracks of this album are "จิ๊จ๊ะ" (Jee-Ja), "ฟังดูง่ายง่าย" (Fung-Do-Ngai-Ngai), "คิดถึง" (Kid-Tueng), "150 c.c", "ไม่" (Mai) and "เพลงนี้เกี่ยวกับความรัก" (Pleng-Nee-Keaw-Kub-Kwam-Ruk).

In 2002 Silly Fools released the album Juicy so this album increased the aggressiveness, heavy to melody and rhythm more than others but not too much as E.P. - I.Q.180. Hit tracks of this album are "บ้าบอ"(Ba-Bor), "ผิดที่ไว้ใจ"(Pid-Tee-Wai-Jai), "แกล้ง"(Klang), "น้ำนิ่งไหลลึก"(Nam-Ning-Lai-Luek), "ขี้หึง"(Kee-Heung), "หน้าไม่อาย"(Nah-Mai-Eye) and "วัดใจ"(Wat-Jai).

After Juicy was released Silly Fools didn't release an album for 2 years and in 2004 Silly Fools released the album King Size. Hit tracks of this album are "แล้วแต่แป๊ะ"(Laew-Tae-Pah), "หนึ่งเดียวของฉัน"(Neung-Deaw-Kong-Chun), "คนที่ฆ่าฉัน"(Kon-Tee-Ka-Chun), "ไม่หวั่นแม้วันมามาก"(Mai-Wun-Mae-Won-Ma-Mak) and "น้ำลาย"(Num-Lie).

2006-2011 Toh resigns
In 2006 Toh the lead singer at the time came out to announce his resignation from Silly Fools, with the reason being that his work environment didn't support his belief in Islam and internal disagreement with other band members ultimately led to this decision. This was shocking news to the Thai music industry. Toh then formed a new band called Hangman, the other band members announced that they would continue to perform as Silly Fools and were hiring a new vocalist. In 2006 Silly Fools announced that they had a new lead singer which performed in the fate festival concert whilst wearing a mask keeping his identity a secret.

The following December Ton, Rang, Tor, and the new singer started to promote their new album even appearing in several talk shows. They announced that the album would be on sale the following year and that the album was called Mini which was a collection of 5 English songs. They also revealed the identity of the new singer Benjamin Jung Tuffnell. Silly Fools almost changed their lead singer to David Usher by the recommendation of a Canadian band but they declined due to his old age. Mini contained Stay Away as it's the first track.

In 2008 Silly Fools resigned from GMM Grammy to join RS even though they had been working for GMM Grammy for 10 years with Tor the band's drummer releasing the first piece of work before releasing The One album in the following March. The album had 2 versions, an English and Thai version and although the album received good reviews they weren't even close to the albums when Toh was the lead singer. Famous songs in this album include "เราเป็นคนเลือกเอง"(Rao Pen Kon Ruak Eng) "เหนื่อยแล้ว"(Nuay Leaw) "รั้งรอ"(Rung Roh) and "โง่"(Ngo).

Silly Fools released ทำร้าย (Tum Rai) on 1 June 2010.

In 2011-2013 Freelance, Single"สูญญากาศ", Tor resigns, Rut joins
Silly Fools released "สูญญากาศ"(Soon-Ya-Kard) on 24 February 2012 at SeedFM 97.5 so for this single Silly Fools has moved out from RS because Silly Fools don't want the pressure to affect their work. By the way, RS agree (RS want Silly Fools to release an album but Silly Fools want to release single). For single "สูญญากาศ"(Soon-Ya-Kard) Silly Fools mix the sound at Canada and get Boyd Kosiyapong (The top songwriter to produce and Warner Bros. Music Thailand take care of marketing).

After the single was released, Tor (Drummer) resigned and moved to be Sek Loso's backup drummer, and Rut Dezember's drummer joined.

List of events summary

 * In 1998 Silly Fools moved to the “More Music Label” under GMM Grammy and made first debut album “I.Q. 180”
 * In 2006 Silly Fools announced “Toh (singer)” resigned and he created a new band named “Hangman” this was one of the biggest announcements in Thai musical history
 * In 2006 Silly Fools announced “Benjamin Jung Tuffnell” was going to be lead vocal and make Ben debut with EP album “Mini”
 * In 2008 Silly Fools move from “GMM Grammy” to “RS” the opposite pole of Grammy
 * In 2014 Silly Fools moved to “ME Record” under “Muzik Move”.
 * On 7 August 2016 The band announced that Kritsana Pandonlan (Rim) past lead singer of WOIZE was going to be the lead singer of Silly Fools

Band members

 * Current members
 * Jakarint "Ton" Juprasert (จักรินทร์ จูประเสริฐ; ) – Guitars (1995–present)
 * Thevarit "Rang" Srisuk (เทวฤทธิ์ ศรีสุข; ) – Bass guitars (1995–present)
 * Rat Kobayashi (รัตน์ โกบายาชิ; ) – Drums (2013–present)
 * Kritsana "Rim" Pandonlan (กฤษณะ ปานดอนลาน) – Lead vocal (2015–present)

 * Former members
 * Korbpob "Toey" Baiyam (กอบภพ ใบแย้ม; ) – Drums (1995-1999)
 * Natapol "Toh" Puthpawana (ณัฐพล พุทธภาวนา; ) – Lead vocals (1995-2006), formed his new band HANGMAN, but now retired and changed name to 'Wirachon Satthaying' (วีรชน ศรัทธายิ่ง).
 * Tortrakul "Tor" Baingen (ต่อตระกูล ใบเงิน; ) – Drums (1999-2012)
 * Benjamin "Ben" Jung Tuffnell (เบนจามิน จุง ทัฟเนล) – Lead vocals (2006-2015)

On June 26, 2006, Natapol Puthpawana quit the band, claiming that he no longer could play in venues serving alcoholic beverages due to his religion.

On November 12, 2006, Silly Fools appeared at the 2006 Fat Festival, performing 2 songs. Their new lead singer, whose identity was not revealed, performed 2 songs while wearing a mask. Both songs that were performed that evening were in English.

On December 21, 2006, Silly Fools (Ton, Rung, Tor) released their latest album "Silly Fools Mini", and unveiled the band's new lead singer, Benjamin Jung Tuffnell. The "Mini" album includes 5 English songs, and was made available for sale around January 26, 2007.

In 2012, Tortrakul Baingen quit the band, with personal reason. In 2013 Rat Kobayashi became the new permanent drummer for the band. The band produced a single for digital download in 2012 Soon Ya Kad.

Members of the band produced TV shows Rock Rider about rock music and travel on big bike. In 2014, Silly Fools together with the band Airborne, and former lead singer of Big Ass Ekarat Wongcharat "Dak", formed Rock Rider project to produce music and do concert tours.

Studio albums

 * I.Q. 180 (June 1998)
 * Candyman (July 1999)
 * Mint (September 2000)
 * Juicy (March 2002)
 * King Size (January 15, 2004)
 * The One (March, 2008)

Singles and extended plays

 * Loi Yim (1996)
 * Chip Diao Ko Sueng Maen (1996)
 * Su Mai Dai (1998)
 * Muea Rak Chan Koet (1998)
 * Seng (1998)
 * Ya BokWa Rak (1999)
 * Nai Wa Cha Mai Lok Kan (1999)
 * Khit thueng (2000)
 * Chi Cha (2000)
 * Phleng Ni Kiaokap Khwam Rak (2000)
 * Phit Thi Waichai (2002)
 * Khi Hueng (2002)
 * Ba Bored (2002)
 * Nam Ning Lai Luek (2002)
 * Wat Jai (2002)
 * Nam lai (2004)
 * Khon Thi Kha Chan (2004)
 * Nueng Diao Khong Chan (2004)
 * Mai Wan Mae Wan MaMak (2004)
 * Man Aep Yu Khang Khrueang (2004)
 * Phleng Khong Thoe (2004)
 * Buea (2004)
 * Rao Pen Khon Lueak Eng (2008)
 * Ngo (2008)
 * Rang Ro (2008)
 * Thamrai (2010)
 * Sunyakat (2012)
 * Standing tall (2014)
 * Pae Ya Rong (2016)
 * Chong Riak Thoe Wa Nangphaya (2017)
 * 20 Tula (2018)
 * Sat Rai (2019) (Record with BIG BAG band)
 * MIST (2019) (Record with Zeal band)
 * ORANGE (2020)
 * Lang Mue (2021)
 * Phae Khwam On ae (2021)
 * Thep Lee Lah (2023)

EPs

 * Silly Fools (1996)
 * Mini (2007)

Compilations

 * Combo (2004)
 * The Singles (2006)
 * Hits (2010)
 * Best of Silly Fools (2013)
 * RS Gold Collection Silly Fools Best Album (2014)

Other songs

 * Motion picture music teentalk (1998)
 * Motion picture music Yamaha x1 (2005)
 * Motion picture music Phlik Fa La Tawan (2009)

Awards
Silly Fools got 7 awards from 2000 to 2009

13th Season Awards (2000)

 * Best Rock Group Artist Award (Album : Mint)
 * Best Rock Album Award (Album : Mint)

15th Season Awards (2002)

 * Best Rock Group Artist Award (Album : Juicy)

1st Fat Award (2003)

 * Artist's Choice Award

MTV Asia Awards (2005)

 * Popular Thai Artist Award

21st Season Awards (2008)

 * Best Rock Group Artist Award (Album : The One)

4th SEED AWARDS (2009)

 * Seed Music Video of the year (Song : Rao Pen Khon Lueak Eng)
 * Seed Rock Album of the year (Album : The One)

POP Music Awards (2009)

 * Pop Rock Artist Award

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The Collectors (Canadian band)

The Collectors was a Canadian psychedelic rock band active in the 1960s.

History
The Collectors debuted in Vancouver, British Columbia, in 1961 as a house band (the C-FUN Classics) for CFUN radio, and renamed itself The Collectors in 1966. The band featured Howie Vickers (Howard Vickberg) on lead vocals, Bill Henderson on lead guitar, recorder, keyboards, and lead vocals (these last mostly on Grass and Wild Strawberries), Claire Lawrence on tenor saxophone, harmonica, keyboards, flute, organ, recorder, and vocals, Glenn Miller on bass and vocals, and Ross Turney on drums and percussion.

The Collectors' biggest hit was their first single, 'Looking at a Baby', released in March 1967 on the Valiant label in the U.S. and on New Syndrome in Canada. It reached #4 on Toronto's CHUM-AM on April 24, 1967. Valiant was then acquired by Warner Bros. Records. In 1967 the group released its first album, The Collectors, on the Warner Bros.-Seven Arts label and appeared on sessions for the US group The Electric Prunes' album Mass in F Minor.

In the fall of 1968 they released Grass and Wild Strawberries. The lyrics of this album were written by Canadian poet and playwright George Ryga ("The Ecstasy of Rita Joe") complemented by the music of The Collectors. Between 1968 and 1969 the group composed soundtracks to three Canadian films: "Don't Let The Angels Fall," (1968) "Canada The Land," (1969) and "The Land" (1969). The Collectors also appeared on the CBC national television program Let's Go.

Howie Vickers left the group in 1969, and the remaining members of the band reconstituted themselves as Chilliwack, with Bill Henderson taking over lead vocals.

Discography

 * 1967 Looking at a Baby (Vickberg-Henderson) A-side; Old Man (Vickberg-Lawrence-Henderson) B-side; 45 RPM single
 * 1968 The Collectors
 * 1969 Grass and Wild Strawberries
 * 1970 I Must Have Been Blind A-side; The Beginning B-side; 45 RPM single release (never compiled on an album)

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How is this entry (Process Philosophy) related to Process philosophy? The redundancy here really needs to be resolved, and one redirected to the other, unless there is some purpose to the separation, which then needs to be made clear. -- The hanged man 03:26, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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AsureQuality

AsureQuality Limited (previously AgriQuality Limited) is a State-Owned Enterprise (SOE) fully owned by the government of New Zealand. The company's core business is food quality assurance with its services including certification, inspection, testing, and training. AsureQuality has over 1700 staff at over 100 locations throughout New Zealand. AsureQuality also has a joint venture partner, Bureau Veritas.. Bureau Veritas and AsureQuality have two joint ventures, BVAQ Australia and BVAQ SouthEast Asia.

Company history
AsureQuality was formed in 2007 from the merger of ASURE New Zealand Limited and AgriQuality Limited. Both companies were originally formed in 1998 from the service delivery arm of the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry Quality Management, with ASURE handling meat inspection and AgriQuality specialising in livestock, horticulture and forestry. Following the merger the company employed more than 1700 staff at 140 sites throughout New Zealand and Australia, with its primary laboratory in Gracefield, New Zealand.

In 2008 AsureQuality entered a partnership with the Hospitality Standards Institute to provide food safety training for the hospitality sector. In 2010 it opened a wine-certification laboratory in Auckland; in 2013 it expanded its Christchurch food-testing laboratory.

In May 2010 it was among a group of SOEs valued for possible sale by the New Zealand government.

In April 2016 the company acquired Australian laboratory-testing provider Dairy Technical Services.

In November 2020 the company was fined $66,000 after pleading guilty to two breaches of the Health and Safety at Work Act over an incident in which seven workers suffered chemical burns while cleaning a Mycoplasma bovis-infected farm in 2018.

Services
AsureQuality Assurance Marks are on-pack symbols that distinguish and identify a product’s claims and supply chain transparency as having been independently verified.
 * Audit, inspection, testing, verification and certification
 * Independent audit, inspection, verification and certification against local and international regulatory and retailer standards
 * Veterinary and field technician services including farm assurance, dairy farm assessment, sample collection, TB testing and related disease management
 * Ante-mortem and post-mortem meat inspection
 * Food and contaminants testing
 * Food testing and analysis against regulatory and retailer standards for pathogens, toxins, allergens, chemical residues, genetically modified organisms and nutritional information
 * Seed testing and certification for arable, dairy, and livestock farming and export
 * Specialist plant and pest taxonomy, border control and pathology services
 * Diagnostics
 * Contract manufacturing of diagnostic products and distribution of specialist veterinary test kits for use in disease management programmes
 * Assurance Marks
 * Contract manufacturing of diagnostic products and distribution of specialist veterinary test kits for use in disease management programmes
 * Assurance Marks
 * Assurance Marks

 * 1) AQ Certified AQ Certified provides independent and certified assurance relating to a specific claim. These claims can range from food safety through to animal welfare, grass fed, and much more.
 * 2) AQ Assured Transparency Programme AQ Assured Transparency Programme provides verified holistic supply chain transparency covering the entire food supply chain. This can also be accompanied by a QR code, which when scanned by consumer's mobile phone will direct them to each product’s information page, allowing them instant access in-store and on the go.

 * Training
 * NZQA-approved training courses are offered mainly to help Quality Control Managers, Internal Auditors, Food Producers, Technical Compliance Coordinators and other food industry professionals to improve their confidence and competence in their field of work
 * Courses on Food Safety, HPCCA and Auditing
 * Biosecurity
 * Under agreement with the Ministry for Primary Industries, AsureQuality provides readiness, capability, incursion response and surveillance services for biosecurity
 * Under agreement with the Ministry for Primary Industries, AsureQuality provides readiness, capability, incursion response and surveillance services for biosecurity

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Re: Aramaic language
My apologies if I misunderstood. It seemed to me that you were removing a set of apostrophes from "Aramaic", changing it from the bold that article subjects normally use to italics; I didn't notice any vandalism per se. I thought that perhaps you were testing how to use bold and italics and so suggested that the sandbox would be a better place to try those out. In any case, welcome to Wikipedia and I hope you enjoy helping us create an encyclopedia. — Knowledge Seeker দ 03:22, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Hi. You might be interested in a/m undeletion. -- User:Docu

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Battle of Lonoy

The Battle of Lonoy, also known as the Lonoy Massacre, was a surprise attack in 1901 during the Philippine–American War when over 400 Filipino revolutionaries were killed by United States Armed Forces. It was fought in Lonoy, Jagna, Bohol on Bohol island.

Filipino forces laid an ambush along a narrow path. They were poorly armed, with daggers, machetes, and spears and few firearms. The American force learned of the ambush from a pro-American local, Captain Francisco Acala, the last Spanish Mayor of Jagna. He led the Americans to the rear of the Filipinos. In a surprise attack, the Filipinos found themselves trapped in their own trenches. All but seven were killed, a total 406, including the commander, Captain Gregorio "Guyo" Casenas. Americans casualties were three killed and ten wounded, which came toward the end when the Filipinos launched a counter-attack.

In April 24, 2011, Captain Casenas and his men were honored by the municipality of Jagna with a statue at the municipal's plaza.

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Spanky (disambiguation)

Spanky McFarland (1928–1993) was an American child actor in the Our Gang (Little Rascals) comedies.

Spanky may refer also to:

Nickname

 * Chalmers Alford (1955–2008), American guitarist
 * Spanky Davis (1943–2014), American jazz trumpeter
 * Spanky DeBrest (1937–1973), American jazz bassist
 * Frank Dyson (1931–1979), British rugby league footballer
 * Michael Fincke (born 1967), NASA astronaut
 * Brian Kendrick (born 1979), American professional wrestler who wrestled as Spanky
 * Ed Kirkpatrick (1944–2010), American Major League Baseball utility player
 * Kevin Long (skateboarder) (born 1984), American professional skateboarder
 * Spanky Manikan (1942–2018), Filipino actor
 * George "Spanky" McCurdy (born 1981), American drummer
 * Elaine McFarlane, vocalist of Spanky and Our Gang, an American 1960s folk-rock band
 * George McFarland (1928–1993), American child actor who played Spanky in Our Gang
 * Michael Russell (tennis) (born 1978), American tennis player
 * Earl Smith Jr. (1965–2016), American acid house musician
 * Al Spangler (born 1933), American retired Major League Baseball player
 * Donald Trump (born 1946), related to allegations made by porn star Stormy Daniels
 * Spanky Wilson (born c. 1947), American vocalist

Given name

 * Spanky Spangler (born 1947), American daredevil

Other

 * Spanky (film), an Our Gang short film
 * Spanky, a 1994 novel by Christopher Fowler
 * Spanky Ham, a character on the Comedy Central program Drawn Together

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Applicant tracking system

An applicant tracking system (ATS) is a software application that enables the electronic handling of the entire recruitment and hiring processes.

An ATS is very similar to customer relationship management (CRM) systems, but are designed for recruitment tracking purposes. An Applicant tracking system has 5 main use cases: Filter resumes, Ranking candidates, Tracking applicants, Improving collaboration and ensuring compliance.

The practice of application filtering has caused many candidates to adopt resume optimization techniques similar to those used in search engine optimization when creating and formatting their résumé.

Principle
A dedicated ATS is not uncommon for recruitment-specific needs. On the enterprise level it may be offered as a module or functional addition to a human resources suite or human resource information system (HRIS). Some ATS's may be available to small and medium enterprises through open-source or software as a service offerings (SaaS).

The principal function of an ATS is to provide a central location and database for a company's recruitment efforts. ATS's are built to better assist the management of resumes and applicant information. Data is either collected from internal applications via the ATS front-end, typically located on the company website or extracted from applicants on job boards. Most job and resume boards (Reed Online, LinkedIn.com, Monster.com, Hotjobs, CareerBuilder, Indeed.com, etc.) have partnerships with ATS software providers to provide parsing support and easy data migration from one system to another. Newer applicant tracking systems (often the epithet is next-generation) are platforms as a service, where the main piece of software has integration points that allow providers of other recruiting technology to plug in seamlessly. The ability of these next-generation ATS solutions allows jobs to be posted where the candidate is and not just on job boards. This ability is being referred to as omnichannel talent acquisition.

Recent changes include the use of artificial intelligence (AI) tools and natural language processing to facilitate guided semantic search capabilities offered through cloud-based platforms that allow companies to score and sort resumes with better alignment to the job requirements and descriptions. With the advent of ATS, resume optimization techniques and online tools are often used by applicants to increase their chances of landing an interview call.

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Laser Floyd: The Wall is the most amazing laser light show ever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.170.45.103 (talk • contribs) 03:32, 19 April 2005 (UTC)

Why the Pink Floyd edit was removed
Two sentences were recently added in the Origins section about Pink Floyd: " Pink Floyd is another well known band who incorporated high output 50W copper-vapor lasers into their outstanding shows. These lasers were the first and one of the only used in a rock concert application."

I am not against expanding the article to include information like this. But I removed this particular edit for the following reasons:

 * The first sentence was unclear. It made it seem like PF is "another" band who used copper-vapor, implying that Blue Oyster Cult also used these.
 * The second sentence was also unclear. It made it seem like copper-vapor lasers were "the first" used in a rock concert application, and are "one of the only" types of lasers used in a rock concert application. Of course, neither statement is true.
 * The first sentence contains an assertion that the shows were "outstanding". This is a strong opinion. More neutral wording might be "impressive shows" or "special-effects filled shows".
 * Pink Floyd's use of copper-vapor was in the 1990s. It was long after lasers had been established as a rock concert effect. (E.g., the edit was not related to the paragraph where it appeared, about the origins of laser displays.)
 * The edit was also not related to the surrounding material about the origins of US safety concerns and regulations. Pink Floyd's use of copper-vapor was safe -- it did not enter the audience -- and thus there was no controversy or undue concern about their use of this of laser.
 * The only thing new about Pink Floyd's use of copper-vapor was the type of laser and the color of the beam (gold). Although interesting, this did not change the laser display world much. Copper-vapor is so rarely used that it does not rate the importance given to it by this particular edit.

Overall, this material was too detailed for the current state of the article.

 * If one wants to discuss the early history of laser concerts, other pioneering bands such as the Who (with Holoco) and ELO (with Laser Media) should also be discussed. Otherwise the impression is given that Pink Floyd was the sole pioneer.

 * If one wants to discuss laser types and their use for displays ... well, there are many lasers which have had much more of an impact on displays, besides copper-vapor. In rough order, this would be he-ne's (early experimentation), argon and krypton ion lasers, Nd-YAG, and solid-state types such as DPSS. Copper-vapor is interesting but certainly not mainstream.

The intent of the edit is good. It is always nice to see people contributing to this article. I just felt that for various reasons, the two sentences added were not relevant to the location they were added, or to the current "broad overview" state of the article. I look forward to when the article has more detail so that Pink Floyd and copper-vapor use can be put into proper context.

--Pmurph5 00:02, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

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"Water screen" and "Waterscreen" could forward to this article, because Wikipedia now has no information on that subject. For those of you who don't know what a waterscreen is, check out this link. The article could have a small section about waterscreens. --82.171.70.54 (talk) 04:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Why WikiProject Physics classification was removed
Someone tagged this article as being "within the scope of WikiProject Physics, which collaborates on articles related to physics."

I removed this tag, because laser lighting displays (e.g., rock-concert-type vector-scanning laser shows) have only a very tenuous relationship to physics. Yes, these laser shows do use lasers as their light source, but that would be like adding computer monitors to WikiProject Physics because they use electricity and emit light.

One criteria is whether research and academic physicists are involved in this field. The answer is no. The closest that physicists get to this field is in developing and improving various types of lasers. For example, physicists may research different ways of creating laser light, but this is not done specifically for laser lighting displays. Some laser research may be done to help other laser display fields, such as raster-scanned laser TVs, which need small, powerful laser sources. But even here the physics connection to laser lighting displays is tenuous at best.

Another criteria is whether a physics degree, either basic (undergraduate) or advanced (Masters, Ph.D.) is required, beneficial or frequently found by those working in the field. Such a degree is very rare in the laser lighting display field, such as persons involved in the International Laser Display Association.

Creating the lasers and beam controllers (scanners, color-control devices, etc.) used in laser lighting displays requires knowledge of optical engineering and electronics. But again, this is not physics-specific, so I have removed the tag.

--Pmurph5 (talk) 18:35, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Specfic facts needed
"use" by a band is questioned. Did the band's employees buy or rent the laser, figure out how to interface a positioner & modulator, etc? Or did they hire a company or consultant to do that? If the latter is the case, the information should be located and included. Particularly useful for the various technical milestones.173.73.179.150 (talk) 07:01, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't get it. I'm quite sure (in a totally guessing kind of way) that none of the band members spent any time operating the laser equipment, and that probably (although hardly definitely) the bands' roadies didn't do too much with it. I would think they found "some laser guy" or company who could make things happen. ELO used to paint their ELO logo with a laser beam before the band came out. They would have hired some specialists and shown them a logo and said, "can you do something with this?"
 * But the main thing is, I don't see what you're asking for. What technical milestones are you trying to get at, that make a difference depending on who signed the paychecks? If the band's road crew set up the machine, is there no milestone? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 11:01, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

"laserlight"
The usage and primary topic of is under discussion, see talk:LaserLight -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 10:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

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