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User talk:JPPINTO

Welcome to the Wikipedia
Welcome, !

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Feel free to ask me anything the links and talk pages don't answer. You can most easily reach me by posting on my talk page.

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Best of luck, and have fun!

ClockworkSoul 03:22, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia! Your enthusiasm for creating philatelic articles is most welcome. We have a few style standards that you should be aware of, for instance that titles (except the first char) should be lower case, so "List of birds on stamps" instead of "List of Birds on stamps" (links are case-sensitive). Similarly, category titles should be pluralized, thus Category:Lists of people on stamps not "list of people on stamps". It's also worthwhile to consider not splitting up a list until it gets long - we do this for people on stamps, and it makes sense for birds and fish, but I don't think there's ever been more than a couple hundred bonsai depicted on stamps, so a single list is sufficient. Finally, Fishes Taxonomy (Sharks) is somewhat redundant, because our "Tree of Life" articles such as Lamniformes already contain the hierarchy in the sidebar tables. Stan 03:53, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi Stan.Thanks for the tips.Really beeing so entusiastic about stamps I've found in Wikipedia a power way to put some of my knowledge forgetting sometimes some logical and basic principals in the way of presenting data.This and my inexperience beeing a new Wikipedia contributer needs of course some usefull advices.Really don't mind to categorized some of my lists such as Kionga and Zambezia as they really bellong now to Mozambique country.As for Kionga if you see stamps of Mozambique you will find Kionga, Lourenço Marques and others on that list although continuing the discussion about Kionga single list.
 * As for Sharks taxonomy and the redundant that you considerer on it, I don't agree with you having the "Tree of life"" as reference for this subject.If you compare both kind of decription you'll find that "Tree of life" is a summary of the major categories of animal taxonomy while in Sharks taxonomy I trie to put all group in a global and complete taxonomic list from Class to Species, with links to usefull internal and external sites for addicional information about each shark species.This is a general taxonomic concept and is used not only for leaving animals but also for fossils.
 * If you considerer this kind of lists usefull on Wikipedia principals, please let me know, because "Tree of Life" and Sharks taxonomy can be linked to complete information from each one.
 * Two last things. I've reformulated all List of Bonsai on stamps ending the single countries list for one single bonsai list.I'm not sure to have done in the correct way but I've leave many "List of bonsai on stamps of ..." orphan and empty of information.If something's wrong please excuse me and tell me how to correct that.Last my excuses for just today have seen your message.Another fault of mine on understanding all Wikipedia way of work.--JPPINTO 23:09, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Page renaming
Hi. In the future, if you realize you've mis-named a page, you'll save yourself and others a lot of work if you use the "Move" tab, instead of blanking the page at the old name and creating a new article at the new name. Happy Wiki'ing. Niteowlneils 02:46, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the tip.--JPPINTO 02:58, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Kionga Stamps
Sorry, I seem to have overlooked your comment on my talk page earlier. If somewhere else is more appropriate for that information feel free to move it there. It looked like the prevailing idea on the VfD page was to merge it to the Stamps of Portugal page, but the only VfD decision that can't be changed by anyone who comes along after is "delete". I personally don't have an opinion on where the content should go, so you and the other people working in that area should discuss it amongst yourselves and then do what you like with it. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 15:28, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Shark taxonomy
Hi JPPINTO,

Are you going to merge the articles in the Shark taxonomy family, now that you've broken the tables out of the parent article?

For example, it might make sense for the table at Shark taxonomy Order Hexanchiformes and the information in Hexanchiformes to be in the same place...unless there's a Wikiproject that is organizing things differently(?)

For guidelines on how to merge articles, see Merge. Essentially, take the content from one article, add it to the other, and create a redirect at the original title. If you need any help, feel free to drop me line. Cheers, --TenOfAllTrades(talk) 02:48, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

One more thought—you might want to check out the Tree of Life Wikiproject. There are probably quite a few editors there with a great deal of expertise in handling taxonomy-related articles, and might be able to advise you on how best to help your contributions fit in to the Wikipedia scheme. Happy editing, TenOfAllTrades(talk) 02:58, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Okay; I can see where you're going. I'd still encourage communication with the Tree of Life people; they might be able to help you integrate your work with the stuff that they're doing.  In the meantime, it would probably be a good idea to provide wikilinks between the two articles—a link somewhere at Shark taxonomy Order Hexanchiformes to Hexanchiformes, and vice versa.  If nothing else, it will help people locate all the hard work that you're doing. Cheers, TenOfAllTrades(talk) 03:17, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Request To Expand Article
Could you please expand the article Acroechinoidea a bit. Just a table without any futher information looks bit strange. Thanks. Pavel Vozenilek 02:20, 19 July 2005 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gzyeah (talk • contribs)

Acroechinoidea
Hey, what is going on with Acroechinoidea? Is it a draft whose content has been moved elsewhere? Please use to request a quick deletion for a page you made in mistake, but never create blank pages. You can create draft articles more freely in your own userspace, for example in User:JPPINTO/Acroechinoidea and then move them over when finished. Or if page moving is the problem, you can use Requested moves for requesting complex moves you cannot figure out how to do. You should never move pages by cut-and-paste. Here is the standard blurb about blank pages:
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Thanks, jni 06:17, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Taxonomic tables
You've been writing a number of taxonomic tables along the lines of the ones at Diadematidae. In Wikipedia. we don't in general lay out taxonomic hierarchies in the form of tables like that. Instead we use indented lists with annotations like the ones you can see at List of birds and List of subgroups of the order Coleoptera. We believe that these are easier to read and better convey the hierarchical nature of taxonomies. When a taxonomy is short, it's in general best to merge it into the article on the parent taxon; for example Shark taxonomy Order Squatiniformes is short enough that it should be merged into section 1 of Angel shark. This avoids unnecessary duplication.

It would be nice if you could:
 * 1) Convert your tables to indented lists.
 * 2) Write articles to go with the tables. For example Diadematidae ought to start with a description of what kind of organisms are being described in the article.
 * 3) Use names that follow Naming conventions. For example, Shark taxonomy Order Carcharhiniformes should be named something like List of species of the order Carcharhiniformes.
 * 4) Leave extant species unmarked; mark extinct species with "(extinct)" or †.

Let me know if you have difficulty with any of these and I will try to help. Or you can ask for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life. Gdr 22:17, 25 July 2005 (UTC) P.S. I merged your two tables for Carcharhiniformes into List of species of the order Carcharhiniformes as a demonstration.

Equinodermata
What is "Equinodermata"? I thought at first it might be Spanish or Portuguese for Echinodermata, but that's Equinodermo and Equinoderme respectively. Can you say what it is? Gdr 10:46, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

No need to delete your articles
Why have you put speedy deletion tags on your articles? Being in the wrong format isn't a reason for deletion, but rather a reason to tidy up. Gdr 22:41, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

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Pure vanity of Vandy student. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 03:24, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Indeed, you do not often see purer vanity. FreplySpang (talk)
 * Delete, not notable, vanity. Megan1967 05:44, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, dear Lord, delete as pure nonsense. Speedy if possible.  He defeated Blackbeard?!? - Lucky 6.9 07:35, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and send to Best of BJAODN. This is really funny... defeating Blackbeard off the coast of the Outer Banks of North Carolina?  Nice deleteable imagination. --Idont Havaname 21:05, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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All good advice, I suppose, but only comprehensible for someone who knows it already. These are more or less the same rules as apply to notes, and it seems more of a how-to than encyclopedic. —Wahoofive | Talk 03:25, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * When the time signature is four beats per bar, and the bar is not empty, rests should not include (parts of) both the 2nd and 3rd beats. For example, if a bar in 4/4 (four crochets per bar) had a crochet note on 1st and 4th beats, it would not be written crochet note, mimim rest, crochet note. Instead, it is written crochet note, crochet rest, crochet rest, crochet note
 * When a bar is compound time (some number of dotted notes per bar - eg 6/8, two dotted crochets per bar), the rests should not 'go over' between one compound (dotted note) beat and the next. For example, a bar in 6/8 containing a crochet note at the start and a quaver note at the end would be written crochet note, quaver rest, crochet rest, quaver note
 * Similarly, with irregular time signatures, rests should not span more than one major beat. For example, a 5/8 bar (five quavers per bar) has a 3+2 pattern, starting with a crochet note and ending with a quaver note is not written crochet note, crochet rest, quaver note, but crochet note, quaver rest, quaver rest, quaver note
 * In compound time (three minor beats per major (=compound) beat), or for bars with three beats per bar, rests should not span the 2nd and 3rd (minor) beat. Thus in 3/4 (three crochets per bar), a bar with one crochet at the start is not written crochet note, minim rest but crochet note, crochet rest, crochet rest.

8/4 time
I see the sentence:

The only exceptions are for a 4/2 time signature (four minims per bar), when a breve rest is typically used for a bar's rest but how about 8/4?? Both time signatures can be filled with a breve note for one measure. Georgia guy (talk) 21:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That sentence is referenced to Gardner Read's book, and is followed by an unsourced claim that "now" (presumably since 1979, when the Read book was published) things are often different. Presumably, Read does not specifically mention 8/4 time (or 16/8 or 32/16, etc.), but what is really needed is a source for the claim that contradicts (or, more kindly, "updates") Read.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 18:12, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Alternative crotchet rest
User:P0mbal has kindly supplied an image of the crotchet-rest form commonly found in French printed scores, with the explanation that it is an "older" form. I have tagged this as needing a source, though I believe the claim to be at least partly true. This symbol, which has the appearance of a "backward" quaver rest, is certainly found commonly in 18th-century engraved scores, but there is a third variant, as well, which resembles a backward Z, or a two superimposed quaver rests, one backward and the other upside down, with a common diagonal stroke. This form, which is more common in manuscripts than in printed scores, is ultimately the source of the common modern form. At the moment, I am at a loss for a source for all of this and, because "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth'''", I must refrain from trying to straighten this out in the article until I find such a source. In the meantime, if someone else can settle this, please feel free to do so.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 22:08, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have supplied an example publication (an old Novello's Mozart Requiem) as source, and have certainly come across the third kind of rest you mention and understand its transformation into the modern form. As an example of use I could scan in a image from some dusty 18th century Chandos Anthems by Handel - it shows old form crotchet rests next to quaver rests for comparison.P0mbal (talk) 22:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, good, thank you for that. The issue is actually rather technical, since the current "normal" form is really more a matter of typographical design than of music notation. Speaking as an antediluvian myself, who grew up writing music with a pen on paper, and reading manuscript as well as printed scores, I think I can safely say that this "normal" form has never been found in informal manuscripts, and even in careful autography tends to take on a rather different appearance, conditioned by pen nibs and the flow of ink. But the important issue, I think, is that the French—being French—long insisted on having their own designs (the French bass clef, for example, which is quite astonishingly dyslexic when compared to the form found almost universally elsewhere, even if it is undeniably more elegant). If this form of crotchet rest ("soupir") is still in common use by French publishers, then the form is "earlier" only insofar as the "normal" design was developed more recently—not that the latter has succeeded the former in usage (though I must confess that my limited experience and the French Wikipedia article parallel to this one suggest it has fallen out of fashion even in France).—Jerome Kohl (talk) 22:59, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * This "third variant" is the one found here (http://archive.org/stream/secondthoughtsa01jerogoog#page/n343/mode/1up, at the very beginning), right? It is French music, OK, but it's an English book (not about music). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.9.228.141 (talk) 07:24, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

I know I'm resurrecting an old discussion, but I have removed the "early" from the 20thC. The manual I cite was being used certainly until 1975 as the standard theory manual for grades I-VIII in the UK. The 1958 issue was on sale until at least then. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 22:51, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I had a word with my boys this morning: the alternative is still being taught (grade V theory), but now as a historic rather than current form - but then they admitted that they never used manuscript paper, all composition is done with Sibelius on the computer. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 09:22, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Bars or measures?
We really need to stick to one usage. It is not at all good to keep mixing the American usage with the British usage at random points in the article. Does anyone have a good argument for which one should be used? — GypsyJiver  ( drop me a line ) 11:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * More than "bars" vs "measures", the article also liberally mixes "crotchets", "quavers", etc., with "quarter notes", "eighth notes", etc. FWIW, both "bar" and "measure" are good American usage but, as I understand it, "measure" is not good British usage. Nevertheless, even in American English it is not stylistically acceptable to mix both terms. Following Wikipedia guidelines, the solution here should be based on the history of the article. If it used British terminology first, and the Americanisms were added later, then the Americanisms should be cleaned out in favour of UK usage (though American alternatives may be added in round brackets); if American usage was first in place, and Briticisms were added later, then the Briticisms should be changed in favor of American usage (in which case parentheses should be used instead of round brackets for the British alternative terms ;-).—Jerome Kohl (talk) 16:46, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * After a brief look at the Edit History of this article, it is clear that American terminology (with parenthesized British equivalents) was used at the modest outset, and that British usage was very quickly added on top of it, especially with respect to using the word "bar" instead of "measure". That said, look what happens when you link to "Measure (music)". There is another Wikipedia guideline that I did not previously mention, and that is the very sensible position that, wherever possible, region-neutral terminology should be adopted. This is not possible for "sixteenth" vs. "semiquaver", but because "bar" is recognized American as well as British usage (even if "measure" is favored in formal American writing) and because this is the term used in the corresponding Wikipedia article on the subject, it seems persuasive to use "bar" consistently, as well as to give British terms such as "crotchet", "hemidemisemiquaver", etc. only in parentheses following their American counterparts. Any other opinions?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 17:03, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm British, so I can confirm that yes, "measure" is not acceptable British usage. Your proposal sounds reasonable, but I also think it depends what sounds natural in American usage. I wouldn't object to using "measure" with "bar" in parentheses. Probably more important is to check whether there is already a consensus on other music-related articles on Wikipedia. If there is a consensus, it would make sense to go with that; if not, then I'm willing to go with your decision. I'll be happy as long as things are consistent. — GypsyJiver  ( drop me a line ) 01:28, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I found an interesting way of dealing with the bar/measure problem at Beat (music): the first mention is of "measure" and the second is of "bar", and they both have wikilinks to the bar (music) article. This neatly clears up confusion about the concept if anyone starts reading halfway through. Actually, I won't mind nearly as much if we mix usage but the concept is still clear. It's still too early to say whether this is a consensus position across music articles, however. — GypsyJiver  ( drop me a line ) 01:46, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that "consensus across music articles" is a phantom concept. On the one hand, you could say that the fact of the article Bar (music) itself constitutes a consensus that this word and not "measure" is the preferred term. On the other hand, compiling statistics on dozens or even hundreds of articles does nothing but establish a statistical predominance. This is not the same thing as "consensus" at all.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 06:21, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You have a point. I wasn't sure what form of consensus there might be when I wrote that. After some digging, however, I found something on this topic at Manual of Style (music). It basically says to be consistent in the variety of English and to include the equivalent language term in brackets (or parentheses, I assume). Also, it suggests making the bracketed term a wikilink, which would neatly cover the points made above. I also had a quick look at the Music and Classical Music WikiProjects, but I couldn't find any advice on this question. So, we should probably stick to the original version - like you said, American terminology with parenthesized British equivalents. So it would be "measure (bar)" in the first instance, and then just "measure" after that. I'll go ahead and change it if you think that's reasonable. — GypsyJiver  ( drop me a line ) 09:49, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No-one (No one) else has chimed in so far, so you (we) may as well go ahead. However, I thought the gist of our discussion was that "bar" is comparatively region-neutral and should be preferred for that reason to "measure", so I would do that particular term the other way round.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 18:56, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've changed it (using "bar" instead of "measure"). I've also reformatted the list of rest lengths at the top as a table. I'd be grateful if you could have a look through the article to see if I missed anything. — GypsyJiver  ( drop me a line ) 02:19, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Great! I shall scrutinize/scrutinise you work!—Jerome Kohl (talk) 02:28, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Where/Why is a Rest Used?
I would speculate that a rest functions to clarify the start times of non-contiguous notes within a bar. You can say it in human terms like so "A rest clarifies not only the stop time of a note but also the start time of the next note, which would be ambiguous without the rest." So it seems the itch that motivated the invention may be legitimately included in its encyclopedic definition, as much as trivia questions like "who/when/where was it first used?". Might help keep the wheels of inquiry turning? Rtdrury (talk) 21:48, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

That and so much more. A rest also serves to separate phrases. More broadly, a rest is the yin to the yang of sound or notes. A rest provides contrast to sound (silence being the opposite of sound) and thereby enhances and enriches music. A rest allows the ear, the mind and the body to relax within a piece of music. There should be section in the article on the purpose of a rest. 24.188.178.8 (talk) 17:56, 29 February 2012 (UTC)Kolef8824.188.178.8 (talk) 17:56, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

 * Rests are used to show a measure's duration. A measure with 3 quarter notes is in 3/4 time. A measure with 3 quarter notes and a quarter rest is in 4/4 time. How can we distinguish these if we don't have rests?? Georgia guy (talk) 22:18, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

3/2 time problem
What if you wanted a 2-beat rest in 3/2 time?? A whole note is 2 beats long, but a whole rest fills a measure regardless of the time signature. Georgia guy (talk) 01:40, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. So? Is it so hard to tell whether there is anything else in the bar besides the rest? Not only that, but it is usual to write two successive half rests under these circumstances, rather than one whole rest, I think. I'll have to look up the rules in Gardner Read or some similar text, though, to see if this is actually prescribed.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 04:25, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Here is the passage from Read (first edition, 1964, page 95): "as the whole rest is now used almost solely to represent an entire measure of rest, it must not ordinarily be employed for less than a measure. An exception to this rule could possibly occur in a 4/2 or 8/4 meter. … Conceivably, too, a whole rest could be used to express part of a measure in 3/1 or 2/1 meter, the 1 standing for the whole note as the beat, though such meters are quite rare". [Example 7.5 intervenes.] "With the above exceptions, a whole rest must not be used to indicate a fractional portion of a measure. This is particularly true in triple meters: 3/2 or 6/4. If two beats of a 3/2 measure are to be silent, we must write two half-rests, rather than a whole rest. In compound triple [sic, recte: compound duple] meter (6/4) we notate the rests equivalent to four quarter-notes as a dotted half-rest and a quarter rest, to indicate the natural division of the measure after the third quarter-note value". I believe this answers the question.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 06:50, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Dotted rests
The little section on this is unsourced, but agrees with my recollection of learning music (England, 1960s) in which rests were never dotted. A quick check in my ABRSM Beethoven edited Craxton/Tovey supports the specific note that in 6/8 an empty beat is represented by crotchet+quaver rests. However, Gardner Read, a reliable US source says (p.102) "...rests may be dotted exactly as notes are dotted to increase their [...] length". Does anyone have any info, and possibly sources, to explain this further? Is their really a US/British divide, or possibly a German/French divide? Imaginatorium (talk) 10:04, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * There could also be a temporal issue here. My "learning music" period was just the same as your, only in America, and we were taught the same rule (the first edition of Gardner Read's book had not yet been published, or had only just appeared). However, we had no difficulty at that time finding examples of dotted rests in printed music, and came to the conclusion that this rule was out of date. It remains an interesting question, and I will see what I can discover. Thanks for raising the issue.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 17:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I can't remember reliably exactly what we were taught -- it might just be that in manuscript it was thought better to avoid dotted rests. After all, we were definitely taught to write the crotchet rest the old/French? way, as a reversed quaver; I first saw people trying to handwrite the standard printed squiggly thing when I came to Japan. Anyway, I searched a bit more, and soon found dotted rests in Beethoven sonatas III (pub. ABRSM, England, about 1930), and also in the Dover reprint (I think) of the original French edition of the Faure nocturnes and barcarolles. But in both cases the 6/8 two-rest rule is also followed. Imaginatorium (talk) 17:43, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * While some how-to books might advise against dotted rests on one ground or another, or in some contexts, that seems like a far less important matter. It's indisputable that rests can be dotted and there's no doubt what the dots mean. There are some contexts in which you'd avoid dotted notes, too, but it seems like a huge distraction to bring it up. —Wahoofive (talk) 21:29, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * P.S. easily found examples in the Bach-Gesellschaft. —Wahoofive (talk) 21:34, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * P.P.S. also in Bach's manuscripts. —Wahoofive (talk) 21:37, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, but you will find all sorts of things in Bach's manuscripts that violate our (modern) rules of notation! (His counterpoint often goes badly wrong, too. I'm sure Ebenezer Prout must have been horrified every time Bach turned in an exercise!)—Jerome Kohl (talk) 00:03, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You're right about that. Bach frequently put the stems on what we consider the wrong sides of the notes, for example. The Bach-Gesellschaft example is stronger, since that was considered state of the art academically at the time. But it's easy to find examples. Is there anyone who denies that the notation appears frequently in published music, whether academics approve of it or not? —Wahoofive (talk) 21:04, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * As User:Imaginatorium suggests, manuscript practice may differ from printed norms but, more importantly, many changes in notational usage have occurred since the mid-eighteenth century. For that matter, some changes have also occurred since the second half of the nineteenth century, which is when the Bach-Gesellschaft edition was made. Finding a reliable source to support the claim you have formulated (that is, a source that denies that the notation appears frequently in published music) might prove a little tricky. I would suggest instead that a source be found that says this notation does occur. Oh, look, we have one already: Gardner Read. If other up-to-date sources say it ought not to be used, we can cite that as well, and point out that the authorities do not all agree on the correctness of this practice. We should beware of setting up such conflicts between sources published more than a hundred years apart, however, unless we are prepared to find still other sources that discuss changing practices over time.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 23:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think anyone would deny it. I'm replying with a bit of speculation: perhaps music teachers trying to help students succeed in examinations have advised against writing dotted rests, on the logic that dotted rests are never mandatory and are sometimes wrong. Perhaps "Be safe, don't bother with dotted rests" gets misinterpreted as "dotted rests bad". TooManyFingers (talk) 21:41, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

What is the name of the repeated graphical element in progressively smaller rest symbols?
An 8th rest / quaver rest is drawn using a single black circle connected by a small curve to the stem. A 16th rest / semiquaver rest is visually depicted as two of these circles and curves stacked on top of each other (slightly angled). A 32nd rest / demisemiquaver rest has this pattern repeated 3 times, and so on... but what is this graphical element called?

In notes, this is the same pattern used with flags (for independently drawn notes) and beams (for joined notes) to indicate smaller and smaller lengths. Is "flag" also the appropriate term for this element of a rest, or is there a different term since it is shaped differently? 76.167.106.227 (talk) 07:48, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Mapeh
How many beats are there in whole note or whole rest 112.202.182.174 (talk) 13:19, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

 * The simple answers:
 * Whole note: usually 4 beats.
 * Whole rest: usually a full bar. Not always the same as a whole note.
 * Slightly better answers:
 * Whole note: the number of beats it gets is equal to the number on the bottom of the time signature, except in compound time.
 * In compound time, a DOTTED whole note gets beats equal to HALF of that bottom number. (When whole notes or dotted whole notes show up in compound time, they're usually easy to understand anyway, so don't think too hard about this.)
 * Whole rest: usually a full bar, but watch out for the exceptions. For a bar that is shorter than a quarter note, or a bar that is double the length of a whole note (or more), the rules may change. TooManyFingers (talk) 16:30, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Multimeasure rest = bars, not whole rests
I changed "number of whole rests" to "number of bars", for accuracy in unusual cases such as those very short metres in which a whole rest is never used. TooManyFingers (talk) 21:17, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Mapeh
What are the kinds of rest and ther time value 115.147.39.15 (talk) 09:27, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

 * Way more work to write this question than to read the article. That's not what this chat page is for. —Wahoofive (talk) 02:40, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

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Shirt Tales

Shirt Tales are characters that were created in 1980 by greeting card designer Janet Elizabeth Manco and were featured on Hallmark Cards greeting cards. The characters were adapted into a 1982-1985 animated series for television, by Hanna-Barbera Productions, which aired on NBC.

Cards
Hallmark Cards released the homonymous line of greeting cards with animal characters wearing T-shirts upon which was a message. Those cards were among Hallmark's best sellers at that time, which led the company to team with Hanna-Barbera Productions to adapt the Shirt Tales into a Saturday morning cartoon, which premiered on NBC on September 18, 1982. The card line remained, but it faded shortly after the show left broadcast television in 1985.

TV series
The animated Shirt Tales cartoon featured Tyg Tiger (in orange), Pammy Panda (in pink), Digger Mole (in light blue), Rick Raccoon (in red), and Bogey Orangutan (in green) (so-called because he spoke using a Humphrey Bogart-style voice). They lived in Oak Tree Park and wore shirts that flashed various brightly lit messages which reflected the characters' thoughts. They spent their time teasing the park custodian, Mr. Dinkel, and battling crime in and out of their hometown of Mid City. They zipped around the world in a vehicle known as the STSST (Shirt Tales' SuperSonic Transport) which could operate as a car, jet, boat, submarine, and other forms of transportation. Though most law enforcement agencies like the unnamed Commissioner knew of the Shirt Tales as crime fighters by reputation, few people seemed aware that they were talking animals—including Mr. Dinkel, whom the group often had to trick to keep their secret safe.

Each episode was divided into two 11–minute segments. After the success of the thirteen episodes in Season 1, ten episodes were created for Season 2. However, the show was semi-rebooted and Kip Kangaroo (in light yellow) was added to the cast of characters without context for her joining the Shirt Tales. There is also a difference in leadership among the Shirt Tales, in which for the first season Rick appeared to be the de facto leader, but in the second season is instead Tyg. Several stories in Season 2 either omit Rick altogether or give him a minor role in the story. The second season also added some superhero elements to the dynamic of the group as well, most notably the color of all their T-shirts changing to a bright red color when "Shirt Tale Time" is called for.

Buck Beaver (in whitish-blue) helped the Shirt Tales use a tree as a bridge in "The Big Foot Incident" and helped them build an ark in "Dinkel's Ark". In "Moving Time", four cousins from out west were introduced for this episode only: Prairie Dog Pete (in red, with a black vest), Filmore Coyote (in light green), Violette Skunk (in yellow) and Hoozit Owl (in lavender). In "Back to Nature", Cubby Bear (in red) helped the Shirt Tales when a wild bear had Mr. Dinkel chased up a tree.

Following the initial run on NBC, Shirt Tales aired on CBS during the 1984–1985 Saturday morning season, replacing The Biskitts in their time slot. CBS aired selected episodes from its two-season NBC run until March 23, 1985, when The Biskitts were returned to the time slot for the rest of the 1984–1985 season.

On March 23, 1985, Shirt Tales was pulled from broadcast television for good, and the Hallmark franchise faded not long after as well. The show continued for a number of years as part of USA Network's Cartoon Express block and on Cartoon Network, but also continues to be broadcast in selected countries around the world on various networks, including Boomerang.

Main

 * Nancy Cartwright – Kip Kangaroo (Season 2 only)
 * Robert Allen Ogle – Digger Mole
 * Patricia Parris – Pammy Panda
 * Steve Schatzberg – Tyg Tiger, Rick Raccoon (Episode 4 only)
 * Ronnie Schell – Rick Raccoon
 * Fred Travalena – Bogey Orangutan
 * Herb Vigran – Mr. Dinkel
 * William Woodson – Commissioner (Season 1 only)

Additional Voices

 * Richard Balin (Season 1)
 * Joe Besser (Season 1) – Elmo the Elephant (in "Elephant on the Loose")
 * Joey Camen (Season 2) - Sparky the Dragon (in "Kip's Dragon")
 * Victoria Carroll (Season 2)
 * Brian Cummings
 * Walker Edmiston (Season 1)
 * Marshall Efron (Season 1)
 * Bernard Erhard (Season 2)
 * Ernest Harada (Season 2)
 * Bob Holt (Season 2)
 * Buster Jones (Season 2)
 * Stanley Jones (Season 1)
 * Sherry Lynn (Season 1)
 * Tress MacNeille (Season 1)
 * Kenneth Mars (Season 1)
 * Joseph Medalis (Season 1)
 * Howard Morris (Season 2) – Shutter McBugg (in "Double Exposure")
 * Henry Polic II (Season 1)
 * Tony Pope
 * Robert Ridgely (Season 1)
 * Michael Rye (Season 1)
 * Marilyn Schreffler - T.J. Tiger (in "T.J.'s Visit")
 * Rick Segall (Season 1)
 * Michael Sheehan (Season 1)
 * Hal Smith
 * John Stephenson (Season 1) – Game Master (in "The Game Masters"), Museum Tour Guide (in "The Humboldt Ghost"), The Humboldt Ghost (in "The Humboldt Ghost"), Ebenezer Creepling (in "The Humboldt Ghost")
 * Andre Stojka (Season 1)
 * Jimmy Weldon (Season 2)
 * Frank Welker (Season 1) – Figby the Cat (in "Figby, the Spoiled Brat Cat")
 * Ted Zeigler (Season 1)

Other media
There were also two musical book-and-record sets released by K-tel International under the "Castle Rock" imprint: A Song Saves the Park, and Sunrise Surprise. However, both sets use sound-alikes for the voices, and are presented differently from typical read-alongs.

Home media
In 1986, a VHS release of the series was issued by Worldvision Home Video and Kids Klassics, it contained the first full-length episode from Season 2 and the first segment of another episode from that season.

On September 16, 2014, Warner Archive released Shirt Tales: The Complete Series on DVD in Region 1 as part of their Hanna–Barbera Classics Collection.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rainbow gatherings

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was MERGE AND REDIRECT to Rainbow Gathering. I'll tag the article so someone else can do it. (just kidding...I'm not that lazy) Postdlf 23:07, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Rainbow gatherings
Nonsensical ramble. I'm not sure what this is, but it's not encyclopedic. CJCurrie 03:30, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete sermon, copyvio Gazpacho 03:35, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * and then redirect to Rainbow Gathering Gazpacho 07:24, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, as per What Wikipedia is not, etc. -- Curps 03:36, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Rainbow Gathering. This is a large annual event with thousands of participants. Encyclopedic, even for non-hippies. FreplySpang (talk) 05:29, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, wikipedia is not a soapbox. Megan1967 05:44, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * It's a teen sex comedy just waiting to be made! "Really, man, I thought it was gonna be a rainbow party..." No? No. Redirect to Rainbow Gathering. Samaritan 06:11, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge any non-duplicate non-copyvio non-rambling-sermon content and redirect to Rainbow Gathering. Annual event for decades, thousands of people per year, the most notable countercultural phenomenon in North America.  More year-round influence in society than Burning Man or any concert tour or the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally or even a Woodstock revival.  Barno 15:39, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge anything useful into Rainbow Gathering and redirect. Jonathunder 04:22, 2005 Apr 19 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Duilio Spagnolo

Duilio Spagnolo (c. 1927 – April 15, 2005) was an Italian boxer who was a heavyweight contender during the Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott and Rocky Marciano eras.

Spagnolo fought in the United States mostly, but he enjoyed more success on the European boxing circuit.

On February 25, 1945, he made his professional boxing debut with an eight-round decision win over Luigi Musina, in Milan. He had his first career defeat in his second bout, when he faced Enrico Bertola on August 12 of that year, in Rome, dropping a ten-round decision. Ten days later, the pair would rematch, in Milan, and Spagnolo avenged the defeat with an eight-round points victory over Bertola.

As soon as his fourth fight, Spagnolo challenged for the Italian Heavyweight title, winning it with a twelve-round decision over Giovanni Martin, in San Remo. His next fight resulted in his first draw (tie) when he and Gino Buonvino fought ten rounds on April 15, 1946, in Milan.

Spagnolo defended his Italian Heavyweight title with a twelve-round decision over Mentore Mazzali in Piacenza on May 19, then lost it in a rematch with Musina, when Spagnolo was disqualified in the fourth round, on July 6, in Milan.

Spagnolo and Musina had an immediate rubber match, with Spagnolo regaining the title by a twelve-round decision on September 8 in Milan.

Spagnolo then abdicated the championship in order to move to the United States, where more famous opponents and the possibility of a world title shot awaited. The first indication that the latter was not going to come came on March 25, 1947, when he made his American debut, against a top ranked heavyweight, Lee Savold, who proceeded to give Spagnolo his first knockout loss, in round eight at Boston's famed Boston Garden.

Spagnolo then won nine fights in a row. He scored his only three career knockout wins during this streak, beating Mike Fisher in five, Louis Clark in three and Jim Lake in five. This pattern of beating almost completely unknown fighters would continue on for the rest of his career, but he managed to also fight with Roland La Starza (who later challenged Marciano for the World Heavyweight title), losing by a ten-round unanimous decision on November 16, 1950, in Brooklyn, New York, Coley Wallace, losing to him by a ten-round decision on December 11 of the same year in Washington, D.C., and Nick Barone (who later challenged Charles for the World Heavyweight title), losing to him by a ten-round unanimous decision on March 15, 1951, in Syracuse, New York.

During one point in his career Spagnolo was scheduled to fight Rocky Marciano. However Marciano's camp cancelled the upcoming bout when Marciano's hand was injured in training.

His fight with Barone was his last one, and he retired with 18 wins, 10 losses and four draws in 32 career bouts, with three knockout wins.

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 * East and Southeast Asia, a modern term for the Far East
 * In the UK, an alternative to British East and Southeast Asian (or BESEA)
 * Elementary and Secondary Education Act, a 1965 United States federal statute considered the most far-reaching federal legislation affecting education ever passed by Congress
 * ESEA League, an esports competitive video gaming community

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La favorite

La favorite (The Favourite, sometimes referred to by its Italian title: La favorita) is a grand opera in four acts by Gaetano Donizetti to a French-language libretto by Alphonse Royer and Gustave Vaëz, based on the play Le comte de Comminges by Baculard d'Arnaud with additions by Eugène Scribe based on the story of Leonora de Guzman. The opera concerns the romantic struggles of the King of Castile, Alfonso XI, and his mistress, the "favourite" Leonora, against the backdrop of the political wiles of receding Moorish Spain and the life of the Catholic Church. It premiered on 2 December 1840 at the Académie Royale de Musique (Salle Le Peletier) in Paris.

Background
Originally, Donizetti had been composing an opera by the name of Le Duc d'Albe as his second work for the Opéra in Paris. However, the director, Léon Pillet, objected to an opera without a prominent role for his mistress, mezzo-soprano Rosine Stoltz. Donizetti therefore abandoned Le Duc d'Albe and borrowed heavily from L'Ange de Nisida, an unrealized project from 1839, to create La favorite.

Donizetti wrote the entire final act in three to four hours, with the exception of the cavatina and a part of a duet, which were added at the rehearsal stage.

Performance history
The Opéra's original production (Paris, 1840) had costumes designed by Paul Lormier and sets produced by two teams of scenic artists: René-Humanité Philastre and Charles-Antoine Cambon (acts 1 and 3), Charles Séchan, Léon Feuchère, Jules Diéterle and Édouard Desplechin (acts 2 and 4). Revivals at the Palais Garnier, on 25 January 1875 and 3 February 1896, increased the scale of the staging but remained true to the original concept of 1840. The opera continued to be performed each season at the Opéra up to 1894, remaining in its repertoire until 1918, as well as maintaining a presence in the French provinces through this period.

It was revived for an Italian premiere in Padua under the title of Leonora di Guzman in 1842 with baritone Achille De Bassini in the role of Alfonso, and at La Scala as Elda in 1843 with Marietta Alboni in the title role, though Donizetti himself was not involved in these productions.

The London premiere was in English at Drury Lane in 1843 with soprano Emma Romer, and then in French two years later at Covent Garden, and in Italian at Her Majesty's in 1847. New Orleans' Théâtre d'Orléans first saw the piece on 9 February 1843 in French (followed by a performance in New York by the New Orleans French Opera Company), and the Metropolitan Opera mounted a production 1895. Italian revivals in the mid-20th century took place at La Scala Milan in 1934 with Ebe Stignani and Pertile, in Rome a year later with Cobelli and Gigli, followed by further revivals in both cities, several featuring Stignani in the title role. Arturo Toscanini conducted the work in Bergamo for the Donizetti centenary. In 1978, the Metropolitan Opera revived La Favorite (in Italian) with Luciano Pavarotti and Shirley Verrett; the opera had not been heard at the Met since Enrico Caruso sang it there in 1905, 73 years previously.

Among other performances, the Bavarian State Opera presented a new production of the work in the original French version in 2016, with Elīna Garanča, tenor Matthew Polenzani and Mariusz Kwiecień in the leading roles.

Synopsis

 * Time: 1340
 * Place: Royaume de Castille

A love triangle involving the King of Castile, Alfonso XI, his mistress ('the favourite') Leonora, and her lover Fernando, the story unfolds against the background of the Moorish invasions of Spain and power struggles between church and state.

Act 1
Scene 1

In the Monastery of St James, the monks are making their way to worship. Superior Balthazar (bass), father of the Queen of Castile, enters with Fernand (tenor). Balthazar knows that Fernand is preoccupied by something. Fernand confesses that he has fallen in love with a beautiful, but as yet unknown, lady. His faith in God remains, but he wishes to leave the monastery in search of her. Balthazar angrily sends Fernand out of the monastery, warning him of the dangers of the outside world. He predicts that Fernand will one day return to the cloisters, a disappointed if wiser man.

Scene 2

Fernand has found his lady, Léonor (mezzo-soprano), declared his love and received it in return, but he is still unaware of her real identity. She has arranged to meet him on the island of Leon, to which he is brought blindfolded by boat. He is met by Inès (soprano), her companion, who impresses upon him the need for secrecy. Léonor enters. She tells him that they can never marry and that they must not meet again, but nevertheless hands him a document to help him in his future. Shortly afterwards the arrival of the King is announced and Léonor leaves. Fernand is left to speculate about her elevated social position. Reading the document she has left him, he finds a commission in the army – an opportunity for advancement.

Act 2
Alphonse (baritone) has defeated the Moors and taken Alcazar. In conversation with the courtier Don Gaspar (tenor), the King expresses his pleasure at Fernand's bravery. Alone, the King expresses his love for Léonor and his desire to divorce the Queen and marry her. He realizes that this will provoke the opposition of his powerful father-in-law Balthazar who is ultimately backed by the Pope. Léonor enters and expresses her anguish at remaining his mistress rather than his Queen. The King suspects that he is losing her affection. Don Gaspar enters with news that a letter has been discovered revealing that Léonor has a lover. She makes no denial, but at that moment Balthazar enters intent on forcing the King to abandon his plans for the royal divorce.

Act 3
Alphonse is to honour Fernand for his role in the war. He asks Fernand what reward he would like and Fernand asks to marry the woman who has inspired him in his bravery. Alphonse asks who she is and Fernand points to Léonor. The King is astonished to learn that Fernand is his successful rival. In an abrupt change of mind, he orders Fernand and Léonor to marry within one hour. Léonor is left with mixed feelings of apprehension and delight. She decides that Fernand must be informed about her past and sends Inès to him. However, unknown to Léonor, Inès is arrested before she can see him. Fernand only learns the truth after the wedding ceremony. Considering himself dishonoured by the King he breaks his sword, leaves Léonor and entrusts himself to Balthazar.

Act 4
Balthazar's daughter, the Queen, has died of jealousy and grief, and her body has been sent to him at the Monastery of St James. Prayers are being said for her repose. Fernand is preparing to enter his new religious life. Léonor enters in a state of exhaustion and faints before the cross. At first Fernand rejects her, but eventually moved by her love and sincerity, he is willing to give himself to her again, but it is too late, Léonor collapses once more and dies in his arms.

Arrangements
In 1840, Richard Wagner made arrangements of the work for piano, for flute, and for a violin duo.

Antonio Pasculli composed a concerto on themes from the opera for oboe and piano/orchestra (c. 1879).

title: La favorite