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Talk:National Association of Professional Base Ball Players

Baseball or Base Ball?
Why "Baseball"? What must be done to move this to "National Association of Professional Base Ball Players"? Someone (administrator?) must write out a long redirect, and that will slow performance. . . but it's bad to write National Association of Professional Base Ball Players ?

The association name is a proper noun, with a common abbreviation NAPBBP that matches only the historically correct version, and it fits the 'pedia treatment of the preceding National Association of Base Ball Players (NABBP).

Why not "Base Ball" in all historical proper nouns? --P64 22:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Almost from the beginning, the game has been spelled "base ball", "base-ball" or "baseball", and those variants persisted clear into the 20th century. I haven't a clue what the wiki rules are on this. Consider the words "court house" vs. "courthouse", for example. Wahkeenah 02:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

particular Clubs
The Washington Nationals (National Association) is linked to the current Washington Nationals (National League) which is incorrect. The Washington Nationals are the former Montreal Expos which was an expansion team in 1969.
 * I'm not even sure if the Washington Nationals of 1872 should be linked to the Washington Blue Legs of 1873 or the Washington Nationals of 1875. baseball-reference lists them all as separate franchises.  But yes, certainly none of those franchises should be linked to any of the 20th & 21st century Washington teams.
 * OK, that link now goes to a disambiguation page which has a large list of 19th century teams at the bottom.
 * Right. Today's Nationals were an expansion team in 1969, and have absolutely no connection to the Nationals of antiquity (i.e. before 1900). Even if there was any connection between that team and any of the major league Washington teams of the 1880s and 1890s, it's irrelevant, as the Washington Nationals club was absorbed by the NL in 1900. The new Nationals of 1901 (later called Senators) took the name from the old team, but as far as I know they had no other connection... nor any, of course, to the current Nationals team. Wahkeenah 21:10, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

The St Louis Brown Stockings (National Association) is linked to the current St Louis Cardinals (National League) which is incorrect. The Cardinals may have been known as Brown Stockings in 1882, but do not have a link to the 1875 team.
 * Looking at the 19th Century NL franchises page, there is a red link to a team called St. Louis Brown Stockings. This is the franchise that the St Louis Brown Stockings (National Association) should be linked to as baseball-reference is stating that the 1875 team was the same franchise.
 * Arguably, the Brown Stockings of the NA (1875) and the NL (1876-77) are the ancestors of the current Cardinals. Although dropped from the NL in 1878, the team continued to operate in one form or another until Chris Von der Ahe came along, bought the franchise, and revived its major status by entering the club as a charter member of the AA (1882) and eventually back into the NL when the leagues merged (1892). That's according to one source, St. Louis' Big League Ballparks, by Joan M. Thomas, a recent publication by Arcadia. I would argue that more research is needed to validate all this, but it's noteworthy at least. However, the St. Louis Red Stockings or Reds of 1875 did not survive, and have no apparent connection to any other big league clubs. Wahkeenah 21:10, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

St. Louis Brown Stockings stub
Part of the above is obsolete because There is now a St. Louis Brown Stockings stub for the 1875-1877 teams; St. Louis Brown Stockings (1876-1877) is a Redirect to that page. There were only two! inlinks to St. Louis Brown Stockings meaning 1882 or later, which now link to St. Louis Cardinals instead.

Note that St. Louis Brown Stockings covers the club(its teams) during its NA and NL membership, as for the five other clubs who abandoned NA to establish NL.

Now, too, there is one category for Brown Stockings 1875-1877 players and one for Red Stockings 1875 players. --P64 00:45, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe we need some consensus on these early clubs. I wrote a separate page that covers both of the early teams, on the grounds that there was too little information to justify separate articles, plus there was a contrast between them, i.e. one was strictly a local club and the other (the one that survived a little longer) was more of a national club. So now we have my St. Louis (NA) which I admit is a little misleading of a title, and your St. Louis Brown Stockings and your St. Louis Brown Stockings (1876-1877) which redirects back to St. Louis Brown Stockings. If you want your St. Louis Brown Stockings to stay, then I reckon we need a separate entry for the short-term St. Louis Red Stockings, which currently redirects back to my St. Louis (NA), and which would be about one paragraph. In short, I think we need, at most, 2 articles. What do you think? Wahkeenah 03:54, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

 * St. Louis Brown Stockings (1876-1877) is not mine but the residual of projects(?) to cover the NL with categories and annual standings. Two days ago(?), St. Louis Brown Stockings was a redirect to St. Louis Cardinals but something like ten? of 12 inlinks were meant for the earlier club or one of the three 1875-1877 seasons (eg, see Lip Pike). So I revised the two? links and dedicated simply St. Louis Brown Stockings to the earlier club.
 * Regarding the break between 1877 and 1882, I read your (Wahkeenah's) words both cautious here in February and firm at St. Louis (NA) in June: Folded when a new St. Louis Brown Stockings professional club was organized in 1882. So I didn't hesitate to write the distinction in stone!
 * Regarding St. Louis (NA), my thought was and it remains: Until someone has more to write about the Red Stockings, there is no need for a proper disambiguation page (presumably "St. Louis (NA)"). The present content of the page should remain there, because we don't have much to say about the Reds except implicitly, the Browns being what the Reds were not. --P64 20:11, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Philadelphia Clubs 1874-1875
I don't know where the sources are for the Philadelphia Pearls and Philadelphia Phillies are, but all relative online resouces have them officially called the Athletics, and as the same team as the 1873 Philadelphia club. Resources are Baseball-Reference, Baseball Almanac, and Retrosheet. I corrected it once, but it was reverted back. I do not engage in edit wars, so I will leave this evidence for future reference. Neonblak 18:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * There were at least two different Philadelphia clubs in the NA simultaneously. One was "Athletic", which ran for the league's five years of existence and was brought into the National League. The other(s) was/were a second club that was simply called "Philadelphia" in the standings. Wahkeenah 18:38, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, here's the rundown on the Philadelphia-based clubs in the NA, from my old Baseball Encyclopedia:

Athletic
 * 1871 22-7 1st place
 * 1872 30-14 2nd place
 * 1873 28-23 4th place
 * 1874 33-23 3rd place
 * 1875 53-20 2nd place
 * 1876 Joined National League but was expelled after the season

Philadephia
 * 1873 36-17 2nd place
 * 1874 29-29 4th place
 * 1875 37-31 5th place
 * 1876 Disbanded

Centennial
 * 1875 2-12 (did not finish)

Wahkeenah 18:57, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Green Cathedrals says that the 1873-1875 club was nicknamed "White Stockings". Seems to me I've read other sources that claimed the name "Phillies" was used for that club. I'm not sure where the "Pearls" name comes from. Meanwhile, the encyclopedia indicates that Jimmy Wood was the manager for all 3 seasons of the "Philadelphia" club. Chick Fulmer also played for the "Philadelphia" club for all 3 seasons. So there is some suggestion of continuity there. It's a little hard to tell, as players in the NA bounced around quite a lot, going wherever the money was (that kind of thing, called "revolving", or what we would call "free agency", was put to a stop by the NL). Wahkeenah 19:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Team names
OK, I introduced the "double list" of names, and looking at it now, I don't like it. I'm going to see what I can do to consolidate the lists. Wahkeenah 19:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the list change, it apears to now coincide with what most resources say, that Philly only had the three franchises, known today as the White Stockings, Athletics, and Centenials, despite the fact that other names were used in the boxscores of the day. With your changes, it looks correct. Of course, that may change one day.
 * My guess would be that "Pearls" was a sportswriter's variation on "White (Stockings)", just a way of being "cute". There's another area of confusion, though: about the two (or more) Washington franchises. I'll research that further when I can. Wahkeenah 12:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

There may be no good answer to the question of club and team names but I feel that revisions should be discussed. The latest changes, now one week old, were made without explanation from IP addresses with no edit history at all (Citys=>Cities, two instances) and only one other edit (Kekionga=>Fort Wayne). --P64 (talk) 17:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

NA statistics recognized?
I've deleted a clause about MLB not recognizing the NA statistics because, on the MLB.COM website, Cap Anson's 1871-5 stats with the Rockford Forest Citys and Philadelphia Athletics are included in his totals. I've left the preceding clause about the MLB official history not classifying it as a recognized major league because I can't speak to that, but it might be worth doublechecking. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jbening (talk • contribs).
 * That note is almost three years old, August 2007.
 * NAPBBP 1871-75 records are today included in the "Major League" career statistical rankings that mlb.com generates on the fly. For example, Al Spalding ranks high by pitcher wins with 252: career ranks, pitcher Wins, Major League (mlb.com).
 * Indeed, Spalding ranks 15 in the "National League" because his 1871-75 wins are included there, too: career ranks, pitcher Wins, National League (mlb.com).
 * In covering the major leagues at wikipedia, how if at all should we keep up with MLB.com's installation of the historical statistical database on the web?
 * For what it's worth, I doubt that this represents any policy decision by MLB. I don't know; I guess that it falls within the scope of personal freedom for the author of the web application. --P64 (talk) 17:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Apparently mlb.com does not provide selection of player-season records by team-season for defunct clubs. For example, visit Jim O'Rourke at mlb.com --identified as primary position, catcher. There are no links to his team-seasons for 1872, 1879, 1881-84, 1890, and 1893.
 * What about team-season records by league-season? For example, team totals for NAPBBP 1872?
 * (My purpose was to check which edition of SABR and Total Baseball records for 1872 is now incorporated, by reference to the 1872 Middletown Mansfields. That is a useful team because there were some late 1990s revisions in its playing records. I can get back to this later by visiting individual players.) --P64 (talk) 17:33, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Almost all online references include NA stats in calculating career statistics. I use Retrosheet for most of research on players, and they have the most complete statistical database for all seasons from 1871-1875.  O'Rourke's] page for instance, you can see that they breakdown the stats he accumulated in each league.  If the decision is made that the NA stats don't count for "MLB" career stats, you can simply substract from the grand total.  Hope this nugget helps. Neonblak  talk  -  17:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It isn't directly helpful. The point isn't how to find career records for players that do and do not sum the NAPBBP 1871-75 along with the NL from 1876, and so on. The point is when and how to speak of the "major leagues" and "major league baseball" here at wikipedia. The history of categories, lists, article titles, and ordinary wikiprose shows that "we" very much want to keep with and match MLB's own policing of its brandname. What else is the point of capitalizing "Major League Baseball" in uses such as categories of team and player articles? If we don't want to follow MLB's direction then we don't need to replicate articles, lists, categories along the 1875/1876 faultline (and we might choose not to do so at 1869/1870 either).
 * This approach was established before mid-2006 when I was a lad and it underwrites your end-2008 work, Neon, see especially NA vs. ML.
 * [Let me reorganize my comment and reply-to-self by collecting the comparison with cricket as a footnote --with apology to Baseball Bugs who has replied to the 23:11 version in the meantime. --P64 (talk) 23:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)]
 * The same goes for First Class Cricket in the historical articles on cricket. "Major League Baseball" and "First Class Cricket" provide basic organizing principles here at wikipedia. ... Oops, I need to catch up with the times. The one-year-old article Variations in first-class cricket statistics and the relatively young article Major cricket show that cricket at wikipedia has moved some distance from "the same" position that I attributed above. --P64 (talk) 23:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry if I didn't understand what you were asking, what Bugs says below seems to be part of explanation, but it is pretty confusing, this is how I have been going about my business in the oldtime era. 1) Any player who has played since 1871 has been called a "major league" player, even he played one game for the 1875 Mutuals. Although, I do, now, call the NA player "professional baseball players" instead of "major leaguers" if they only played 1875 or before.  The NL, AA, PL, UA, AL, and FL are "major" leagues, however the actual agreement between the NL and AL in, I think 1902 (?), established the entity called "Major League Baseball".  I don't know the actual answer, and I am still not sure that this has an established consensus or not. Maybe this answer helps better than my last one. Neonblak  talk  -  04:53, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Far as I know, the NA is still not considered to be a "major league", but its stats may turn up for individuals as a reference point. The NA was replaced by the NL as the top professional league. Again, far as I know, "Major League Baseball", in itself, is considered to be the AL and the NL only. History books tend to put the AA, UA, PL and sometimes the FL (and once, but no longer, the NA) in the "major league" category (note lower case) in the sense of being top professional leagues in the USA. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If you look at the official MLB page for Bobby Mathews here, the top of the page states "MLB Debut: May 4, 1871" which clearly makes reference to his Fort Wayne debut. Kinston eagle (talk) 11:54, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Middle ages, warriors

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Middle ages, warriors
Patchy grab-bag of an article, no clearly defined focus or scope. Have a sneaky suspicion this is really an article about "Middle ages warriors as in some unspecified video-game" Alai 04:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I suspect Alai is right, compare to the Medieval warfare article to see how it should be done. Badly titled, anyway. Average Earthman 10:53, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * If it is not a copyvio, maybe some of the (admittedly rather superficial) historical information could be merged into medieval warfare. Martg76 11:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I suspect a copyvio from the manual of Age of Empires 2. --Carnildo 22:37, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Kick its ass. Too many punks think that historical RTS games actually reflect history. This article is probably an example of such a misconception. Back in highschool, kids in my history classes actually cited the AOE manual as a source in papers. Really quite sad. -Casito⇝Talk
 * Delete. I can identify the game since I own it, THIS IS A COPYVIO from the Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings manual. There are some typos etc. but it's largely word-for-word. Master Thief Garrett 03:15, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pun'd

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Pun'd
A non-notable neologism. Delete. — J I P | Talk 04:23, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: The author of the article removed the VfD notice. User:Feco has marked it for speedy deletion, but the author removed that notice too. User:JeremyA has restord it. If the article is speedy deleted, this VfD becomes invalid.   — J I P | Talk 04:58, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete... yeah, anon IP keeps clearing vfd and speedy tags... I figure a VfD vote will draw enough attention to make sure it gets deleted. The article says Pun'd is a neologism created in Feb 2005 by some guy.... methinks non-encyclopedic vanity. Feco 05:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete it --nixie 05:14, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, neologism. Megan1967 05:54, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete neologism. If it's better sourced, the author can try contributing it to Wiktionary.  Rossami (talk) 05:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Charles Matthews 10:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Neologism. jni 11:21, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * You just been delet'd! Neologism, no reason to transwiki.  Author was trying to refer to a segue but wound up riding a Segway.  Barno 20:37, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Neologism. --Dcfleck 15:12, 2005 Apr 24 (UTC)
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Bob Wong

Robert Charles Wong (born April 27, 1941) is a former politician in Ontario, Canada. He was a Liberal member of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario from 1987 to 1990 who represented the downtown Toronto riding of Fort York. He served as a cabinet minister in the provincial government of David Peterson.

Background
Wong was educated at the University of Toronto, York University, Harvard University, and the University of Waterloo, earning Bachelor of Science and M.B.A. degrees. He was a special assistant of the Minister of National Health and Welfare from 1968 to 1970, and served as special advisor to Canada's first Minister of State for Multiculturalism in 1972. Wong later served as president of the Toronto District Liberal Association from 1974 to 1976, and of the Ontario Chinese Liberal Association in 1986. He also chaired the Toronto Ontario Olympic Committee, and was a member of the Multicultural Advisory Council.

In private life, served as chair of Goulding, Rose & Turner Ltd., and was a director of May Mikkila Inc., Abico Management Ltd., Multilingual Television Ltd., Channel 47 Toronto (Canada's first multilingual television station) and Sky Continental Management Inc. He established the first brokerage office in Toronto's Chinatown, and was named Analyst of the year for 1980 by Financial Times of Canada. He also is the author of "Computing: An Introduction" and the co-author of "Algorithms", both published in 1967.

Politics
He was elected to the Ontario legislature in the 1987 provincial election, defeating Joe Pantalone of the New Democratic Party (NDP) by 137 votes in the downtown Toronto riding of Fort York. He was appointed to cabinet on September 29, 1987 as Minister of Energy. He was named Minister of Citizenship responsible for race relations, multiculturalism and Ontario Human Rights Commission on August 2, 1989.

The Liberals were defeated by the NDP in the 1990 provincial election, and Wong lost the Fort York riding by about 1,500 votes to Rosario Marchese. He sought to return to the legislature in the 1995 election, but lost again to Marchese by over 2,000 votes.

Wong supported Gerard Kennedy for the leadership of the Ontario Liberal Party in 1996.

Later life
Wong was later appointed chair of the Canadian Automobile Association (CAA) Ontario's Government and Public Affairs Committee. He is now Vice-Chairman and Portfolio Manager with Leon Frazer & Associates Ltd, and is a board member of the Royal Ontario Museum.

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Talk:The Daleks' Master Plan

Serial v multi-serial
I always thought this was a multi-serial (a la The Key to Time, Trial of a Time Lord) 132.205.15.43 04:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * No, this was a 12-parter, produced under one production code. The only adjunct was Mission to the Unknown, which was a one-episode prologue to this (with The Myth Makers transmitted in between), but had a separate production code. --khaosworks 04:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Really messed up
This requires reversion. I tried to fix a problem and ended up creating a larger one. Sorry. --Proteus 02 May 2005
 * Easily fixed, and done. Don't worry about it - it happens on occasion, though I'm not sure why. --khaosworks 17:01, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

Donald Tosh
I've removed the note about Nation only writing 20 pages and Tosh inflating it, as it appears to be untrue. To quote David Brunt, one of the foremost Doctor Who historians and former head of the DWAS reference department, in a post on the Outpost Gallifrey forums a while back:

 * ''Having read all Nation's draft scripts for the story Tosh's memory is playing serious tricks with him there.

 * ''Nation delivered a good 30+ pages of script per each of his six episodes (or the usual 45/50 page Camera Script length when reformatted). If anything, Tosh just polished the dialogue - and actually cut a load of scenes for time and/or budget reasons.

 * In fact, the thought springs to mind that Tosh tended to rewrite every DW script that was delivered in his time on the show - maybe he was just a compulsive tinkerer in other people's work?

The direct link, for those of you who have OG forum access, is here

Angmering 09:34, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Can we rephrase the note, about Tosh's claims and Brunt's rebuttal, then? --khaosworks 11:18, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

 * That seems fair enough, although if David claims he's read all of Nation's draft scripts I'd certainly believe him over Tosh's decades old remembrances. Angmering 10:00, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, I agree entirely - but might as well just put the facts up objectively. --khaosworks 11:19, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

Feast of Steven
I've gone and listened to the end of "The Feast of Steven" again - several times - and I don't believe that Peter Purves chokes and says "Hey!" as in protesting Hartnell's address to the camera. Rather, he's saying, "Hey-HEY!", as in the typical exclamatory toast, which takes place between him and Jean Marsh, while Hartnell addresses the camera. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 12:12, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

 * What confuses me then is why Purves appears doubled-over in the surviving telesnap of that scene. (I tried to find in on the net in case I've misremembered it, but no luck.) proteus71 18:30, 30 Nov 2005

 * I haven't seen that, so I can't comment, unfortunately. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:18, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Found the telesnap. Purves is not doubled-over, but he appears to be laughing heartily.  Jean Marsh is definitely corpsing.  I would have thought that if all of the cast knew of Hartnell's address, they would have been smiling sincerely at the camera, toasting the audience, rather than visibily cracking up and causing an unprofessional level of studio noise.  proteus71 14:52, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC)

 * Equivocal. I could equally interpret it as Purves being completely unaware of Hartnell's address to the camera and just celebrating with Jean March (either in character or not).
 * The presence of the scene in the camera script does suggest that at the very least Camfield and Hartnell knew about it before hand, since the cameras had to be focused on Hartnell for it to work. It could very well be that Purves and Marsh were not aware of it as it was a last minute addition.
 * I just don't think that Purves' cry was a reaction to Hartnell's line. It doesn't sound like it and I don't think there's a strong enough basis to assert it even as an interpretation. The facts we know for sure are simply that Tosh and Wiles claimed it was a last minute addition, and that it appears in the camera script. That's enough, I think. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 15:33, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I would say that that has settled that bit of solution (to borrow a Hartnellism). Thanks. proteus71 16:46, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Spar
I thought "Spar" was the name of the type of ship Chen had, either make or model — so saying "Chen's Spar" would be like saying "Josiah's Toyota" or "Josiah's Prius". For what it's worth, it's capitalized on the BBC's plot summary (from Howe's Television Companion, I think). Not sure how best to indicate that, though... —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 03:50, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I've added a note to that effect. Feel free to demolish, er, edit, at your lesuire, as always :).--Sean|Bla ck 06:42, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Also note this . I don't have the CD to check, but..--Sean|Bla ck 06:51, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Hmm... the CD booklet says, "The name Spar (space car) was story editor Donald Tosh's idea." So it is capitalized, but now I'm not sure whether the word refers to a make or model, or a variety (like a cruiser).  The scene breakdown does frequently refer to "Chen's Spar", but I'm not sure now whether that tells us anything or not. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:04, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Hmmm. So "Spar" is capitilized as if it were a make or model, but it also has a definite etymology ("space car"). What does Peel's book say?--Sean|Bla ck 07:11, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Peel italicizes it, as if it's the ship's name, but then the dialogue suggests it's an expensive luxury make. The technicians discuss it when Chen mentions it on the news.  Roald wishes he had "one of those 740s.  Elegant, luxurious, plus the ultimate in technology..." and Lizan cuts him off, "And an advertising campaign aimed at billionaires. ... You'll never be able to afford a Spar!"
 * Would one ever italicize Lamborghini? I wouldn't. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:25, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * And here I thought that the book would simplify things. Sheesh!--Sean|Bla ck 07:29, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Is this really such an issue that it needs to be included in the article? Alastairward (talk) 20:41, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Never seen outside UK
Interesting this serial is the only Hartnell serial never seen outside the UK. Wonder why? Maybe it was too long? Anyone know why it was never shown outside UK? Are there any other serials not shown internationally? Asa01 06:41, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * It was never sold to overseas sources, although I believe copies were sent to other countries to see if they were interested. The length might have been a factor. IIRC, Master Plan is the only one that wasn't sent overseas, which is why the chances of recovering episodes are very, very slim. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 07:22, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * The only country to request a viewing copy was Australia, who after viewing it decided it would never get past the censors for the timelsot they usually showed the programme in. What happened to these viewing copies (11 of them - no Feat of Steven) is something of a mystery. Australian fan Damian Shanahan spent some time in recent years trying to track them down in Australia or at least a record of what happened to them, but to no avail. The likeliest bet seems to be that they were either junked by the ABC or returned to the BBC. If it was the latter, then they could very well be the source of the episodes that ended up in that Mormon basement and that projector testing room at Ealing. Where the other eight went, of course, is open to question. Angmering 11:26, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I have to be pedantic here: "Wherefore art thou" is so often mistranslated as meaning "Where are you?" whereas "Wherefore" actually means "Why." "Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo," is less of a query as to Romeo's current geographical status as it is Juliet's frustrated plea for the reason why the man she has fallen in love with has to be Romeo Montague, one of her family's hated enemies. So "Episodes, why are you?" really makes no sense. This moment of pendantry has been brought to you by someone who almost became a Shakespearean scholar. Thank you. :) --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 14:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * And me with a degree in English Literature too. I feel suitably shamed. Angmering 15:38, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I watched Doctor Who in Aust through the 1970s and beyond. When later I started amassing Who books and literature I realised I had never seen The Brain of Morbius and The Deadly Assassin tho I had seen all the other Tom Baker adventures repeated many times. A few years later I found an ancient TV guide at home and sure enough, Morbius had had a later evening screening on the ABC. It was not shown at the normal timeslot. Apparently the Mary Whitehouse complaints had had some effect. These adventures were apparently removed from repeat runs due to their violent scenes. Too bad I never kept that newspaper. 1980s repeat runs restored Morbius and Assassin. Asa01 21:04, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Deadly Assassin was rated "A", taking the ABC by surprise and thus could only be played after 19.30. This occurred with the first three stories and Caves of Androzani, with major repercussions in those cases. Assassin was pulled off the schedule after it was listed in weekly guides in April 1978, and premiered nine years late in episodic format. Brain of Morbius was also rated "A", but in its case the BBC offered an hour long movie version, which the ABC screened 11 October 1978, in the "A" rated slot of 20.30. It was repeated in January 1980.
 * The problem with Master Plan was that the plot rather than any particular scene was rated "A" so no amount of the omnipresent '60s excising could bring it down to "G". So ABC didn't buy it.MartinSFSA (talk) 10:29, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the lack of other sales it seems (according to BroaDWcast) that most of the other countries who brought the series at this stage (Barbados, Zambia, New Zealand, Sierra Leone and Singapore) relied on the Australian ABC to do most of the rights clearance costs. (Other countries who purchased earlier Hartnells had stopped showing Who at this stage; either due to interest dropping or because the talent unions negotiated higher costs on the later stories once the series proved a success; this may also be why no-non Commonwealth countries brought the later Hartnells or any Troughtons and why Enterprises retained negatives for earlier Hartnells ). Timrollpickering (talk) 14:41, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

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Continuity
At present, the "Continuity" section has a lot of information that is not immediately useful to understanding the episode. Particularly so the following;

 * It is left unclear whether "spar" refers to the classification of Chen's ship, the manufacturer, or something else entirely. The Television Companion capitilises the word, suggesting a make or model. This interpretation is reinforced by a line of dialogue from Episode One referring to a type of spacecraft called a "Spar 740", reminiscent of car models such as the Saab 900 or the Mazda 626. Peel's novelisation, meanwhile, capitalises and italicises the word, as well as referring to it as "a Spar". Notes included with the CD release indicate that it was meant to be a contraction of "SPace cAR," and was a suggestion of script editor Donald Tosh.

But also, the list of "firsts" in Doctor Who, or brief similarities between small plot points in this story and others later on.

Is there anyway to trim it and please everyone? Alastairward (talk) 22:10, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Breaking the fourth wall

 * There were several indirect addresses to the audience in later episodes. In The Caves of Androzani, the character Morgus (John Normington) makes private comments in a theatrical aside to the camera having misunderstood director Graeme Harper's instructions; in Enlightenment, Captain Wrack (Lynda Baron) gives the final line of Episode 3 directly to camera; Colin Baker delivers one of his first lines as the Doctor directly to the camera; Sylvester McCoy delivers a line directly to the camera in the third part of Remembrance of the Daleks; and in The Shakespeare Code, the character Lillith makes a speech deliberately styled in the format of a soliloquy to the camera. In "Journey's End", Martha Jones seemingly grins to the camera as she tends to the TARDIS console, however it could be argued that is a POV angle of the Doctor, and therefore she is grinning at the Doctor.
 * This all belongs somewhere, if not here. MartinSFSA (talk) 10:37, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I removed it for two reasons: it wasn't really relevant to this story more than any other, and it was bordering on the prohibited area of original research. I wouldn't remove it if you found somewhere else to put it that made more sense, but it does need some kind of source. The last sentence in particular sounds like one person guessing. The place for that is Doctor Who Wiki, not here. Alzarian16 (talk) 11:17, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * MartinSFSA, it's not that important anyway, regardless if it was episode specific. Why is it to you so notable? WikiuserNI (talk) 14:00, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Why is is so notable to me? You'd mean why do I think it's notable? Reading the list makes me want to find more examples or double check the existing list. The 'net is better for this list of information, and that constitutes knowledge. MartinSFSA (talk) 09:58, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Wanting to find more examples and check the existing list are both cases of original research, which isn't allowed on Wikipedia. The information does have some worth, but I think it's better suited to the Doctor Who Wiki than it is to this one. Alzarian16 (talk) 10:01, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Mr Freakin' Obvious.MartinSFSA (talk) 10:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Martin, no need to be snarky. If you did know this information could have been left to the Doctor Who Wiki, why didn't you leave it there in the first place? WikiuserNI (talk) 18:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Not sure I understand the question, but the answer is probably "Because I'm not its author"?MartinSFSA (talk) 21:07, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The information though is free for anyone to edit, you can take it from here and leave it on the Doctor Who wiki if you so wish. WikiuserNI (talk) 22:20, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Unless of course the question is related to placing it on another Wiki at some unspecified point in the past. In which case the answer is of course "Because I'm not a magical man".
 * If it relates to moving it to the talk page, that I can answer. This being something I've actually done, as opposed to some speculation about possible past actions. MartinSFSA (talk) 05:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * In summary then, no real reason can be provided for including it in the article, grand, thanks. WikiuserNI (talk) 17:58, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Feast of Steven "telerecording"
What's being referred to as a "telerecording" in the cited BBC PasB is the studio taping of the episode in question (3rd December 1965). The word "telerecording" was used at the time to mean any pre-recording of a television programme to either tape or film. It does not mean a film recording (i.e a video to film transfer) was made on this date. Somebody has got the wrong end of the stick. Wonder why Wikipedia has a bad name? 2.101.219.45 (talk) 19:50, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Telerecording is not the original recording to videotape, it is the copying of a finished programme from videotape to film. See Telerecording. -- Red rose64 🌹 (talk) 22:18, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

 * That's the modern usage of the term. On the document in question the "Telerecorded" date is the date the episode was made in the studio and it's followed a videotape number. That was the recording to tape. Timrollpickering (talk) 01:19, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Offensive material
Australian TV considered editing out offensive material. What offensive content would've been found in a BBC programme intended for children's television? Nuttyskin (talk) 17:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

 * Violence and scary situations. Australian TV censors were more strict about material that might frighten children. I've edited that sentence to make this clearer. Thanks for pointing it out! Toughpigs (talk) 17:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If you get hold of the DVD Lost in Time, there are a few items featuring the only surviving footage of some episodes. Often, these are the bits that were cut out by the Australian censors and left in their vault, the rest of the episode being passed on to another country after broadcast. So, the Australian censors kinda did us a favour, because without their scissors, some episodes - or even whole stories (e.g. The Smugglers) - would have been entirely lost. -- Red rose64 🌹 (talk) 17:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

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Canadian Academy

Canadian Academy (CA; カネディアン・アカデミイ Kanedian Akademii), founded in 1913, is an independent pre-K – grade 12 international school in Kobe, Japan. The day and boarding school consists of an elementary school, middle school, and high school all located on the campus on Rokkō Island, a man-made island. The school is approved by the Japanese Ministry of Education and accredited by the U.S. based Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC) and the Council of International Schools (CIS). The school is certified to award both the International Baccalaureate (IB) and U.S. high school diplomas.

History
On September 13, 1913, Canadian Methodist Academy opened with sixteen students at Aotani-cho. Under the leadership of Principal Mrs. Ethel Gould Misener, the school served children of missionary parents from grade one through high school and offered boarding facilities for students. The school changed its name to Canadian Academy in 1917. In 1920, CA held its first graduation ceremony and PTA Bazaar, predecessor of the annual Food Fair.

The campus expanded in the 1920s adding a girls' dormitory and Memorial Hall. On newly purchased land on Nagamine Heights, the Duke of Gloucester dedicated a boy's dormitory, Gloucester House, named in his honor in May 1929. The Latin Motto of Scientia Clavis Successus, knowledge is the key to success, was chosen in 1921 as was the school song. The school housed refugees from the Great Kanto Earthquake of 1923.

CA remained at the Aotani-cho campus until it closed due to World War II. The last formal graduation ceremony took place in 1942. The Japanese government seized the school to serve as internment camps for enemy aliens. Only Gloucester House and the principal's house survived the extensive bombings of Kobe in 1945. After the war, Occupation Forces used Gloucester House as a hostel.

On September 17, 1952, CA reopened its doors at Gloucester House with six teachers and 110 students. The school began to rebuild and grow for the next few decades at Nagamine Heights. In the 1970s, the Western Association of Schools and Colleges first accredited the school. Also, under the guidance of Mitsuko Unno, members of the Japanese culture club presented their first kabuki performance. By the 1980s, it became clear that more space and newer facilities were needed.

In September 1990, the school relocated to expanded facilities on Rokko Island. On Transition Day, students and teachers walked from the Nagamine Heights campus to the new one on Rokko Island. In January 1995, the Great Hanshin earthquake devastated Kobe. Nearly 3,500 people sought shelter in school facilities.

The Early Learning and Activities Center (ELAC) opened in January 2008 on what was once the location of the Norwegian School. Over 200 alumni returned to their alma mater for the centennial anniversary celebrations in 2013.

Curriculum
Canadian Academy's more than 85 faculty members from around the world teach a college preparatory program in English.

The school began by incorporating the IB Diploma Programme. Later, the school implemented the International Baccalaureate Organization's Primary Years Program (PYP), and Middle Years Program (MYP). The school became an IB World School in 2011.

In addition to academics, the school offers extra-curricular activities for all ages. The school is a founding member of the Asia Pacific Activities Conference (APAC) for annual athletic tournaments and performing arts festivals among twelve international schools in the Asia-Pacific region.

Facilities
The modern 9-acre campus, which opened in 1990, includes the main building, Gloucester House dormitory, and Early Learning and Activities Center (ELAC), opened in January 2008. Fully equipped classrooms are all networked to the internet and have computers. The Herbert Norman Library and Media Center houses more than 42,000 volumes and is supplemented by a library in ELAC. Other facilities include a cafeteria with seating for 300 students, the main building Theater with seating for almost 400 people, and the P&G Black Box theater. Athletic facilities include two gymnasiums, a fitness center, two tennis courts, artificially turfed playing fields including a full-size soccer pitch, and two elementary school playgrounds.

Prior to its move to Rokko Island in 1990, the school overlooked Kobe for many decades in Nagamine Heights, a residential area located below Mt. Maya and Mt. Rokko.

Student body
At the beginning of the 2017–2018 school year, there were 641 students (Pre-K- 5: 280; Middle School: 141; and High School: 220 (includes approximately 15 boarding students). The student body is made up of as many as 40 different nationalities with about 18% North American, 8% European, 56% Asian (including 25% Japanese) and 18% representing the rest of the world.

Canadian Academy is the third-largest expatriate international school in Japan and the largest in the Kobe/Osaka/Kyoto area. The school enrolls many students from the Rokko Island area as well as surrounding communities.

Alumni
Close to 3,000 students have graduated from Canadian Academy since its founding in 1913. CA is the alma mater of Olympic athletes, artists, diplomats, musicians, filmmakers, writers, businesspeople, MDs, and other professionals including in alphabetical order:

 * Joji, Japanese singer-songwriter, record producer and former YouTube personality
 * Desmond Morton, Canadian historian
 * Yuriko Backes, diplomat and politician
 * Mary Brown, educator
 * Luke Gillespie, American jazz and classical pianist
 * David Hayter, screen and voice actor and screenwriter
 * Ellen McIlwaine, guitarist
 * Kana Muramoto, Japanese Olympic ice dancer and three-time Japanese national champion
 * Donald Shively, Japanologist
 * Taizo Sugitani, member of the Japanese Olympic Equestrian team
 * Kikuë Tachibana, scientist
 * Jared Taylor, white nationalist
 * Mackenzie Clugston, former Canadian ambassador to Japan
 * Ayaka Kimura, Japanese actress and singer; former member of J-pop idol group, Coconuts Musume

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Members of the Northern Territory Legislative Assembly, 1977–1980

This is a list of members of the Australian Northern Territory Legislative Assembly from 1977 to 1980. Though there had been one previous Assembly, this Assembly was the first to have real power over affairs in the territory, as self-government was only granted in 1978.

 * The member for Alice Springs, Rod Oliver, resigned from the Country Liberal Party on 21 August 1979, and served out the remainder of his term as an independent.


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David du Plessis

David Johannes du Plessis (7 February 1905 – 2 February 1987) was a South African-born American Pentecostal minister. He is considered one of the main founders of the charismatic movement, in which the Pentecostal experience of baptism with the Holy Spirit spread to non-Pentecostal churches worldwide.

Biography
Born to missionary parents, an 11-year-old du Plessis accepted Christ in 1916, and he received the Pentecostal baptism with the Holy Spirit accompanied by speaking in tongues at the age of 13. He was ordained in 1928 by the Apostolic Faith Mission of South Africa (AFM). In 1935, he became the general secretary of the denomination where he advocated closer ties between the AFM and South Africa's three sister churches. He later recalled that in 1936 Smith Wigglesworth, during a preaching tour in South Africa, prophesied over him that God would out pour his Spirit upon the historic churches and that he, Du Plessis, would be greatly involved in this.

He worked with Donald Gee to promote cooperation among Pentecostal groups and was involved in organizing the first Pentecostal World Conference (PWC) in 1947. A year later, he resigned as secretary of the AFM to become organizing secretary for the PWC. He served in this role for nine years until 1959.

Du Plessis and his family moved to the United States in the late 1940s. He taught at Lee College, a Church of God (Cleveland, Tennessee) school, from 1949 to 1951. He received preaching credentials from the Assemblies of God (USA) and moved to Stamford, Connecticut, in 1952 to serve as interim pastor of Stamford Gospel Tabernacle. In 1962, he surrendered his Assemblies of God preaching credentials under pressure from denominational leadership who opposed his ecumenical efforts. He remained a member of an Assemblies of God church in Oakland, California, and in 1980 his credentials were restored.

Originally shunning other movements, he became an active believer in ecumenism, beginning his efforts in the 1950s to share the Pentecostal experience with Christians in the historic denominations, chiefly Roman Catholicism. His main gateway into ecumenism was through his friendship with John McKay, then President of Princeton Seminary, New Jersey. McKay invited Du Plessis to address the International Missionary Council in Willingen, West Germany, in 1952. There he earned the nickname "Mr Pentecost".

He was a member of staff and Pentecostal "observer" at the World Council of Churches in 1954 and 1961, respectively, and was invited to serve as a Pentecostal observer at the Second Vatican Council.

Du Plessis entitled his autobiography The Spirit Bade Me Go, as he believed God had commanded him to take the Pentecostal message to other denominations, and in particular the World Council of Churches. Recounting a meeting with 24 ecumenical leaders in Connecticut, Du Plessis wrote:
 * "I could remember days when I had wished I could have set my eyes upon such men to denounce their theology and pray the judgment of God upon them for what I considered their heresies and false doctrines. [...] After a few introductory words, I suddenly felt a warm glow come over me. I knew this was the Holy Spirit taking over, but, what was He doing to me? Instead of the old harsh spirit of criticism and condemnation in my heart, I now felt such love and compassion for these ecclesiastical leaders that I would rather have died for them than pass sentence upon them."

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Talk:Family Ties

No reference to shared birth date coincidence
Shouldn't there be some mention of the remarkable coincidence that Baxter-Birney and Gross were both born on Saturday, June 21, 1947? [signed] FLORIDA BRYAN — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:3:1000:4E2:9227:E4FF:FEF0:BBDE (talk) 07:07, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Inspiration for name of Mallory
There is a citation on the Mallory entry that says Mallory Prestlien Cangialosi (1962-2005), a female television producer, was the inspiration for the character of Mallory. But no citation is offered. Mallory Prestlien Cangialosi is the daughter of actors Marcia Henderson and Robert_Ivers.

Jcravens42 21:19, 15 July 2015

Andy birth year
It says in part of the article that Andy was born in 1984 (I don't remember this being specifically stated in an episode, so I assume this is when it aired). Should we just leave the year out since he ages like many sitcom children? I mean, he turns 6 in a 1988 episode. 184.53.33.4 (talk) 06:25, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Odd original research
I agree with ; this information is inappropriate in tone, unsourced, with fan-like emphasis on another TV program, and appears to consist solely of original research. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:10, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Regarding edits by SQGibbon 18:02 on 1 June, 2018
Disclosure: I have not edited an article in Wikipedia before, and so am not very versed in the general rules and regulations for doing so (I was under the impression anyone could edit if they provided true information). Thus, I am not versed in how these discussions work either. It took me a while to figure out how to use the "talk" feature even to get to this point. I'm not entirely sure I'm writing this in the correct place. If need requires it, you may refer to me as "Newbie editor."

SQGibbon is removing material I contributed to the "References in Other Media" section of the "Family Ties" article.

The reasons listed are as follows: "Some of this is puffery and doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. The rest is unsourced and much of it is original research WP:OR. We need reliable sources discussing all of this and then cite them."

Reply: I fail to see how the references here are any different from the others, excepting in that they are more detailed. Let's think about the statement above:

"Puffery" = please define and explain (with specific reference to the edited material, please).

"doesn't belong in an encyclopedia" - please explain; what is the purpose of an encyclopedia, and WHAT should be excluded from an encyclopedia entry and WHY (again specific references to the edited material in question along with justification for the irrelevance of each would be appreciated)?

"the rest is unsourced" = do you mean that these aren't quotes from some secondary material? If I quote an article or interview, I will need to cite that material. However, each of these references is to a direct or indirect reference to "Family Ties" within an episode of a TV show (Psych). Each instance is referred to the specific season, episode, and original air date. So please explain to me how any of these fail in the citation department.

"much of it is original research" = if you mean to say that I myself hunted down each of these references, then you are correct - it is my original research. Please explain why it is bad for me to do my own leg-work to locate information that is not reported anywhere else and which is, by the way, easily accessible to anyone who has access to these episodes (or their scripts, which are all online). And if you're worried I'm not getting proper credit for my "research," I'm fine. I don't desire the recognition. This information is free for whomever would like to benefit from it without having to track this down, unless they want to (in which case, they can do so just like I did).

As a final word, I'd like to know by what authority my edits are being removed? My understanding is that wikipedia articles are open to contribution by anyone. Misinformation should be discouraged and removed, but if an edit provides additional information that may be of interest to some readers, why would you remove it (for any reason)? You cannot say that the information provided is irrelevant because that will be relative to readers. For instance, I have exactly zero interest in any of the other "references in other media" listed in this section. I suspect I am not alone. I think there will be many readers who couldn't care less about the references I've included. That's fair. The question I have is why my references are removed and others permitted to stay, given that they are of the same nature (excepting, again, the fact that mine are more thorough - something that is generally taken to be a virtue rather than a vice).

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.38.163.164 (talk) 19:55, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

 * is correct, please review WP:PUFFERY, WP:OR and Manual of Style/Trivia sections. I have also placed a welcome notice on your talk page with many helpful links. Cheers, -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 20:11, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

 * Hello. I'll try to briefly deal with some of your questions.

 * Puffery: On Wikipedia we expect editors to always take a neutral voice, the sort of thing you'd expect in other encyclopedias or in journalism. Take your line "on USA's fantastic buddy detective dramedy Psych", the "fantastic" part is not encyclopedic and does not belong. On Wikipedia we do not get to express our personal opinions.

 * Original research: This is where an editor (you, in this case) supplies their own understanding or interpretation of events. Wikipedia requires that every fact that is asserted can be cited to an independent and reliable source that other editors can access. You do not fit the definition of a reliable source. A reliable source is, roughly, a source that is notable (by Wikipedia standards, meaning covered in depth by other independent and reliable sources), known for objective reporting and deemed a reliable source by professionals in that field. There are always grey areas in these things, but we editors have agreed that random anonymous people are not reliable sources.

 * Unsourced: In these kinds of situations we also expect that any analysis actually be supported by reliable sources. So it's not enough for you to notice these references to Family Ties in Psych, we need secondary, independent, published reliable sources to have done the research and made those connections and ideally by verifying those claims with the creators of the show.

 * Anyone can edit: Take your two statements: "I was under the impression anyone could edit if they provided true information". We have no way of determining truth. Instead we rely on secondary, independent, published reliable sources to do the research and we report on what they say. We, as editors, do not judge the veracity of any claim but only report on the research done by others. "My understanding is that wikipedia articles are open to contribution by anyone". This is true but we editors over the years have achieved many, many consensus views concerning guidelines and policies about the kind of content that is acceptable on Wikipedia. We enforce these policies and use the guidelines to guide how we edit and what edits we accept. Wikipedia is not an anarchic free-for-all where anyone can write anything no matter how good their intentions are.

 * If you have any more questions or comments about editing Wikipedia feel free to ask me on my talk page. SQGibbon (talk) 23:12, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

The Keatons are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
I think this statement needs a citation or other support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.37.90.146 (talk) 22:53, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Tone
I think the phrase "ex-hippie liberal," used several times in this article to describe the elder Keatons, is a bit loaded... sounds almost like a pejorative....PurpleChez (talk) 19:52, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

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Taming Sari

Taming Sari (which means "flower shield", "beautiful shield" or "the main shield" in Malay) is a famous kris in Malay folklore. It is believed to have been wielded by the legendary Malaccan warrior Hang Tuah, and is fabled to grant physical invulnerability to its wielder.

Description
The Kris Taming Sari was said to have been made of 21 different types of metal. The whole of the sampir (upper wooden part) and batang (lower part of the wooden sheath), was covered in gold leaf. It is classified as a keris gabus (sharp ) or keris terapang (having a cross-piece or sheath covered with gold).

Folklore
The Malay Annals (Malay: Sejarah Melayu) tells that the kris was made by a Javanese blacksmith (pandai besi) and wielded by the champion of Majapahit, a pendekar named Taming Sari from which the weapon derives its name. It was said to be so skillfully crafted that anyone wielding it was unbeatable. In some versions of the legend, the weapon was imbued with an enchantment that would make its user physically invulnerable. The Malaccan admiral Hang Tuah eventually won it in a duel to the death after which Singhavikramavardhana, the king of Majapahit presented the weapon to the victor. Later when Hang Tuah failed to bring back the princess from Mount Ledang, he gave the kris to Tun Mamat to be returned to Sultan Mahmud Shah. Hang Tuah then disappeared and was never seen or heard of again. Another version of the legend has it that Hang Tuah threw the dagger into the river, saying that he would return when the kris re-appeared.

The Kris Taming Sari is said to have mystical powers such as hovering in the air during times of crisis or leaping out of its sheathe to fight on behalf of its wielder.

History
When Malacca was captured by the Portuguese in 1511, Sultan Mahmud retreated to Kampar in Sumatra, bringing all of Malacca's state regalia. He passed the weapon along with the other royal regalia to his son Muzaffar Shah who later became the ruler of Perak. It is still kept in the palace of his descendant Sultan Nazrin Muizzuddin Shah, and is today still part of the state's royal regalia.

Before Taming Sari became part of the Perak royalty's regalia, it is believed to have been a hereditary article of the family of the laksamana (admiral) who for generations, through succession, ruled as the territorial chief of Hilir Perak. It is believed that the last territorial chief who had the famed kris in his possession was Laksamana Mohd Amin Alang Duakap. In 1876, he was arrested alongside many other aristocrats of his time for the alleged involvement in the murder of the first British Resident, James W.W. Birch. Together with Datuk Shahbandar Uda Kediti (the territorial chief of Kerian), Sultan Abdullah (the reigning Perak monarch of the time) and Menteri Paduka Ngah Ibrahim (the administrator of tin-rich Larut), Laksamana Mohd Amin was banished to the Seychelles.

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Talk:Tiger Stadium (Detroit)

Introduction
Is it appropriate for Eminem's music video to get mentioned in the introduction to an article about Tiger Stadium? Perhaps this could be moved to another section of the article. 64.9.62.109 (talk) 21:15, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Caption
Shouldn't the capture for one of the pictures be "An empty" and not "A empty"?

Construction costs
This article lists construction costs as $300 million U.S. dollars. This would be over $6 trillion in 2010 dollars. The figure is either wrong or should specify that it is in current dollars.

According to other Wikipedia entries, Fenway Park (home of the Red Sox) and Crosley Field (former home of the Reds) cost $650,000 and $225,000, respectively. All three stadiums opened in 1912. Thus, the $300 million estimate is probably off by three orders of magnitude.

Coincidentally, Comerica Park (current home of the Tigers) was build for $300 million. Perhaps someone mistook the Comerica Park statistic as being for Tiger Stadium. --mille930Mille930 (talk) 15:24, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Third deck
There was in fact a third deck at Tiger Stadium, which consisted of covered, open-front boxes on the roof of the second deck behind home plate and down the right and left field lines. The stairs to these were blocked and looked like they had been blocked for a long time. I always wanted to go up there and see what they were like. I would be interested to know when they were put there, and for what purpose, and why they weren't used, but seeing the Tigers there in the 80s and 90s I never saw these decks open. I certainly would have paid to sit up there. Tim in Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.73.125.247 (talk) 21:06, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Field Deminsions
Center field was actually about 420 feet, not the 440 that was listed on the wall. This is referenced several places one is in the book 100 things Tiger fans should before they die. While playing in Tiger stadium and after hearing the rumors from the guys I walked off the distance from 2nd base to the 440 marker and of course unscientifically measured 98 paces or roughly 294 feet. It is about 127' from home plate to 2nd base so that is 421. http://books.google.com/books?id=KbcAZDLLX_YC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=420+not+440+tiger+stadium&source=bl&ots=6bgv-gne3H&sig=yvpBlS3LSblPqL9vVRlHcY5j11E&hl=en&sa=X&ei=kjcfU8XuHYiJqQGAnYCgBQ&ved=0CFgQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=420%20not%20440%20tiger%20stadium&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.16.250.210 (talk) 16:30, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

There is an airial photograph that looks directly down on Tiger Stadium, http://blog.detroitathletic.com/2008/04/23/wrecking-ball-closing-in-on-tiger-stadium/, using a ruler one can measure the distance to straight away centerfield. Knowning the distances between home and second you can then measure the distance with very good reliability just like the military does on sat images. The distance? 421.1053 feet to straight center. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.16.250.210 (talk) 18:27, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

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February 2016 cleanup
The article needs a little facelift. The organization is screwy, with extensive discussion of post-baseball developments preceding discussion of what the ballpark looked like during its nearly 100 years of use; a lot of the post-Tiger material now is extraneous, consisting as it does of Things That Didn't Happen; much of the material is unsourced, and there's a lot of duplication. I'll be working through the article in the near future and invite comments on my edits. JohnInDC (talk) 14:43, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I took a pretty big crack at it this morning. Mostly I moved things around.  I am sure I left one or another thing in the wrong place but will go back through and start to collect & repair those oversights soon.  It's an interim step but already I think the article is improved.  JohnInDC (talk) 15:37, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The "Notable moments", "Film & TV" and "Popular culture" sections need paring, consolidation, and sources. They're still pretty list-y and anecdotal; I hope to get to that soon.  JohnInDC (talk) 02:12, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Multipurpose Stadium
Tiger Stadium was more than just a baseball park as it hosted other sporting events Hutz18 (talk) 07:59, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree. It's changed now. Back Bay Barry (talk) 02:28, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I changed it back. "Ballpark" and "multi-purpose stadium" are referring to its basic design, not whether it was used for more than one sport. The article Multi-purpose stadium is about the types of stadiums like Riverfront Stadium, Three Rivers Stadium, and even Cleveland Stadium that were designed to house more than one sport (were usually circular or otherwise symmetrical) rather than designed for a specific sport but other sports used it. Tiger Stadium, like most other ballparks of that era (Wrigley, Fenway, Forbes, League Park, etc.) was designed for baseball but was also used for football simply because it had a large seating capacity compared to other facilities of the day and could fit a football field. In other words, it was football played at a ballpark. --JonRidinger (talk) 13:21, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It's a stadium, either way. "Ballpark" isn't specific enough. Call it a baseball stadium or a multi-use stadium, as (talk) suggests. Back Bay Barry (talk) 01:22, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

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Conflict management

Conflict management is the process of limiting the negative aspects of conflict while increasing the positive aspects of conflict in the workplace. The aim of conflict management is to enhance learning and group outcomes, including effectiveness or performance in an organizational setting. Properly managed conflict can improve group outcomes.

Conflict resolution
Conflict resolution involves the process of the reducing, eliminating, or terminating of all forms and types of conflict. Five styles for conflict management, as identified by Thomas and Kilmann, are: competing, compromising, collaborating, avoiding, and accommodating.

Businesses can benefit from appropriate types and levels of conflict. That is the aim of conflict management, and not the aim of conflict rejection. Conflict management does not imply conflict resolution.

Conflict management minimizes the negative outcomes of conflict and promotes the positive outcomes of conflict with the goal of improving learning in an organization.

Properly managed conflict increases organizational learning by increasing the number of questions asked and encourages people to challenge the status quo.

Organizational conflict at the interpersonal level includes disputes between peers as well as supervisor-subordinate conflict. Party-directed mediation (PDM) is a mediation approach particularly suited for disputes between co-workers, colleagues or peers, especially deep-seated interpersonal conflict, multicultural or multiethnic disputes. The mediator listens to each party separately in a pre-caucus or pre-mediation before ever bringing them into a joint session. Part of the pre-caucus also includes coaching and role plays. The idea is that the parties learn how to converse directly with their adversary in the joint session. Some unique challenges arise when organizational disputes involve supervisors and subordinates. The Negotiated Performance Appraisal (NPA) is a tool for improving communication between supervisors and subordinates and is particularly useful as an alternate mediation model because it preserves the hierarchical power of supervisors while encouraging dialogue and dealing with differences in opinion.

Orientations to conflict
There are three orientations to conflict: lose-lose, win-lose, and win-win. The lose-lose orientation is a type of conflict that tends to end negatively for all parties involved. A win-lose orientation results in one victorious party, usually at the expense of the other. The win-win orientation is one of the most essential concepts to conflict resolution. A win-win solution arrived at by integrative bargaining may be close to optimal for both parties. This approach engages in a cooperative approach rather than a competitive one.

Although the win-win concept is the ideal orientation, the notion that there can only be one winner is constantly being reinforced in American culture:

"The win-lose orientation is manufactured in our society in athletic competition, admission to academic programs, industrial promotion systems, and so on. Individuals tend to generalize from their objective win-lose situations and apply these experiences to situations that are not objectively fixed-pies".

This kind of mentality can be destructive when communicating with different cultural groups by creating barriers in negotiation, resolution and compromise; it can also lead the "loser" to feel mediocre. When the win-win orientation is absent in negotiation, different responses to conflict may be observed.

Early conflict management models
Blake and Mouton (1964) were among the first to present a conceptual scheme for classifying the modes (styles) for handling interpersonal conflicts in five types: forcing, withdrawing, smoothing, compromising, and problem solving.

In the 1970s and 1980s, researchers began using the intentions of the parties involved to classify the styles of conflict management that they included in their models. Both Thomas (1976) and Pruitt (1983) put forth a model based on the concerns of the parties involved in the conflict. The combination of the parties' concern for their own interests (i.e. assertiveness) and their concern for the interests of those across the table (i.e. cooperativeness) yielded a particular conflict management style. Pruitt called these styles yielding (low assertiveness/high cooperativeness), problem solving (high assertiveness/high cooperativeness), inaction (low assertiveness/low cooperativeness), and contending (high assertiveness/low cooperativeness). Pruitt argues that problem-solving is the preferred method when seeking mutually beneficial options (win-win).

Khun and Poole's model
Khun and Poole (2000) established a similar system of group conflict management. In their system, they split Kozan's confrontational model into two sub-models: distributive and integrative.
 * Distributive – Here conflict is approached as a distribution of a fixed amount of positive outcomes or resources, where one side will end up winning and the other losing, even if they do win some concessions.
 * Integrative – Groups utilizing the integrative model see conflict as a chance to integrate the needs and concerns of both groups and make the best outcome possible. This model has a heavier emphasis on compromise than the distributive model. Khun and Poole found that the integrative model resulted in consistently better task-related outcomes than those using the distributive model.

DeChurch and Marks's meta-taxonomy
DeChurch and Marks (2001) examined the literature available on conflict management at the time and Ni established what they claimed was a "meta-taxonomy" that encompasses all other models.

They argued that all other styles have inherent in them into two dimensions:
 * activeness ("the extent to which conflict behaviors make a responsive and direct rather than inert and indirect impression"). High activeness is characterized by openly discussing differences of opinion while fully going after their own interest.
 * agreeableness ("the extent to which conflict behaviors make a pleasant and relaxed rather than unpleasant and strainful impression"). High agreeableness is characterized by attempting to satisfy all parties involved.

In the study DeChurch and Marks conducted to validate this division, activeness did not have a significant effect on the effectiveness of conflict resolution, but the agreeableness of the conflict management style, whatever it was, did have a positive impact on how groups felt about the way the conflict was managed, regardless of the outcome.

Rahim's meta-model
Rahim (2002) noted that there is agreement among management scholars that there is no one best approach to how to make decisions, lead or manage conflict.

In a similar vein, rather than creating a very specific model of conflict management, Rahim created a meta-model (in much the same way that DeChurch and Marks, 2001, created a meta-taxonomy) for conflict styles based on two dimensions, concern for self and concern for others.

Within this framework are five management approaches: integrating, obliging, dominating, avoiding, and compromising.
 * Integration involves openness, exchanging information, looking for alternatives, and examining differences to solve the problem in a manner that is acceptable to both parties.
 * Obliging is associated with attempting to minimize the differences and highlight the commonalities to satisfy the concern of the other party.
 * Dominating in this style one party goes all out to win his or her objective and, as a result, often ignores the needs and expectations of the other party.
 * Avoiding here a party fails to satisfy his or her own concern as well as the concern of the other party.
 * Compromising involves give-and-take whereby both parties give up something to make a mutually acceptable decision.

International conflict management
Special consideration should be paid to conflict management between two parties from distinct cultures. In addition to the everyday sources of conflict, "misunderstandings, and from this counterproductive, pseudo conflicts, arise when members of one culture are unable to understand culturally determined differences in communication practices, traditions, and thought processing". Indeed, this has already been observed in the business research literature.

Renner (2007) recounted several episodes where managers from developed countries moved to less developed countries to resolve conflicts within the company and met with little success due to their failure to adapt to the conflict management styles of the local culture.

As an example, in Kozan's study noted above, he noted that Asian cultures are far more likely to use a harmony model of conflict management. If a party operating from a harmony model comes in conflict with a party using a more confrontational model, misunderstandings above and beyond those generated by the conflict itself will arise.

International conflict management, and the cultural issues associated with it, is one of the primary areas of research in the field at the time, as existing research is insufficient to deal with the ever-increasing contact occurring between international entities.

Interorganizational conflict management
One of the key features of conflict management in inter-organizational relationships is the involvement of both an individual level and an organizational level. In inter-organizational relationships, conflicts have to be managed through a set of formal and informal governance mechanisms. These mechanisms influence the likelihood and type of conflicts but also the way conflicts are managed between the parties.

Higher education
With only 14% of researched universities reporting mandatory courses in this subject, and with up to 25% of the manager day being spent on dealing with conflict, education needs to reconsider the importance of this subject. The subject warrants emphasis on enabling students to deal with conflict management.

"Providing more conflict management training in undergraduate business programs could help raise the emotional intelligence of future managers." The improvement of emotional intelligence found that employees were more likely to use problem-solving skills, instead of trying to bargain.

Students need to have a good set of social skills. Good communication skills allow the manager to accomplish interpersonal situations and conflict. Instead of focusing on conflict as a behavior issue, focus on the communication of it.

With an understanding of the communications required, the student will gain the aptitude needed to differentiate between the nature and types of conflicts. These skills also teach that relational and procedural conflict needs a high degree of immediacy to resolution. If these two conflicts are not dealt with quickly, an employee will become dissatisfied or perform poorly.

It is also the responsibility of companies to react. One option is to identify the skills needed in-house, but if the skills for creating workplace fairness are already lacking, it may be best to seek assistance from an outside organization, such as a developmental assessment center.

According to Rupp, Baldwin, and Bashur, these organizations "have become a popular means for providing coaching, feedback, and experiential learning opportunities". Their main focus is fairness and how it impacts employees' attitudes and performance.

These organizations teach competencies and what they mean. The students then participate in simulations. Multiple observers assess and record what skills are being used and then return this feedback to the participant. After this assessment, participants are then given another set of simulations to utilize the skills learned. Once again they receive additional feedback from observers, in hopes that the learning can be used in their workplace.

The feedback the participant receives is detailed, behaviorally specific, and high quality. This is needed for the participant to learn how to change their behavior. In this regard, it is also important that the participant take time to self-reflect so that learning may occur.

Once an assessment program is utilized, action plans may be developed based on quantitative and qualitative data.

Counseling
When personal conflict leads to frustration and loss of efficiency, counseling may prove to be a helpful antidote. Although few organizations can afford the luxury of having professional counselors on the staff, given some training, managers may be able to perform this function. Nondirective counseling, or "listening with understanding", is little more than being a good listener — something every manager should be.

Sometimes the simple process of being able to vent one's feelings—that is; to express them to a concerned and understanding listener–is enough to relieve frustration and make it possible for the frustrated individual to advance to a problem-solving frame of mind, better able to cope with a personal difficulty that is affecting his work adversely. The nondirective approach is one effective way for managers to deal with frustrated subordinates and co-workers.

There are other more direct and more diagnostic ways that might be used in appropriate circumstances. The great strength of the nondirective approach (nondirective counseling is based on the client-centered therapy of Carl Rogers), however, lies in its simplicity, its effectiveness, and the fact that it deliberately avoids the manager-counselor's diagnosing and interpreting emotional problems, which would call for special psychological training. No one has ever been harmed by being listened to sympathetically and understandingly. On the contrary, this approach has helped many people to cope with problems that were interfering with their effectiveness on the job.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Color in Light

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 03:49, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Color in Light
Messy and badly written about something that is better covered in Light, Color and other articles. The main goal of the author seems to be to find somewhere to put in links to his own websites, and this article is one of those places. Merge at best, but I can't really find anything worth merging. Delete. Shanes 04:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, better covered in other places, looks like too much hard work to merge anything. Kappa 05:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, already covered elsewhere. Mgm|(talk) 08:07, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: I re-formatted it to reduce the headache it caused but now it simply comes across as cobblers. --Phil | Talk 12:27, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Same reasons as above -Casito⇝Talk 23:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to an article where this is covered at. --SuperDude 07:11, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete this IP (222.126.67.204) and a number of other IPs from infocom.ph have been vandalizing many color and light related pages, adding the advertising links. --Chinasaur 14:56, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Saskatoon Sutherland

 * Sutherland is a neighborhood or subdivision of the University Heights SDA, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.

Saskatoon Sutherland was a provincial electoral district for the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan, Canada. It was last contested in the 2011 provincial election before being dissolved into Saskatoon Silverspring-Sutherland and Saskatoon University.

The district was first contested in the 1975 provincial election. In its initial form, it existed until the 1991 election, when it was merged with Saskatoon University to create the new district of Saskatoon Sutherland-University. The new district was renamed back to Saskatoon Sutherland before the 1995 election.

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Rosthern-Shellbrook

Rosthern-Shellbrook is a provincial electoral district for the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan, Canada.

The riding was last contested in the 2020 election, when incumbent Saskatchewan Party MLA and Premier Scott Moe was re-elected.

Communities in the district include the towns of Rosthern, Shellbrook, Hafford, Blaine Lake, and Spiritwood; and the villages of Canwood, Laird, Medstead, Leask, and Shell Lake.

History
The constituency was created in 2002 from portions of Shellbrook-Spiritwood, Redberry Lake and Rosthern, and was first contested in the 2003 general election. Rosthern-Shellbrook will gain significant territory from Biggar-Sask Valley for the next general election, in what will be the riding's first major boundary reconfiguration since its creation.

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Saskatoon Nutana

Saskatoon Nutana is a provincial electoral district for the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan, Canada. It is named for the neighbourhood of Nutana which is one of several within its electoral boundaries.

Members of the Legislative Assembly
This riding has elected the following members of the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan:

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Weyburn-Big Muddy

Weyburn-Big Muddy is a provincial electoral district for the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan, Canada. Located in southeastern Saskatchewan, the constituency was created for the 1995 general election by combining parts of Weyburn and Bengough-Milestone.

The largest centre in the constituency is the city of Weyburn (pop. 9,433). Smaller communities in the district include the towns of Willow Bunch, Coronach, Ogema and Bengough; and the villages of Minton, Pangman and Mctaggart.

For the next general election, the riding will be renamed Weyburn-Bengough and shifted to the north, gaining significant territory from Indian Head-Milestone, Lumsden-Morse and Moosomin and losing territory to Estevan-Big Muddy and Cannington.

Election results
Source: Elections Saskatchewan: Constituency Vote Summaries – Historical

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Cumberland (Saskatchewan provincial electoral district)

Cumberland is a provincial electoral district for the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan, Canada. It was created for the 1912 election, and was abolished into Prince Albert East-Cumberland in 1967. It was re-created for the 1975 election. It is the largest electoral district in the province, and at the 2007 general election was the safest seat for the New Democratic Party.

History
The riding has a strong history of electing New Democrat MLAs, and that region has returned MLAs from the NDP and its predecessor party the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation since 1952. The closest that the NDP came to losing the riding was in the 2008 by-election, which was narrowly won with 49.73% of the popular vote and a plurality of 164.

Member of the Legislative Assembly
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Athabasca (Saskatchewan provincial electoral district)

Athabasca is a provincial electoral district for the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan, Canada. It is located in the extreme northwest corner of the province. The major industries are tourism, mineral extraction, forestry, commercial fishing and trapping. The Cluff Lake uranium mine is located in this constituency, as well as the Athabasca Sand Dunes Provincial Park and the Clearwater River Provincial Park. The major communities are La Loche, Île-à-la-Crosse and Buffalo Narrows with populations of 2,136, 1,268 and 1,137 respectively.

The district was most recently contested in the 2020 general election, during which incumbent NDP MLA Buckley Belanger was re-elected, but a by-election is scheduled for February 15, 2022 to replace Belanger who resigned to run (unsuccessfully) for the Liberal Party of Canada in the riding of Desnethé—Missinippi—Churchill River during the 2021 Canadian federal election.

The original Athabasca electoral district was created before the 1908 general election out of parts of Battleford, Redberry, Prince Albert and Kinistino, and consisted of the sparsely populated northern half of Saskatchewan. For the 1912 general election, the electoral district was divided in half, with the eastern half becoming Cumberland. The district's southern border was slightly altered before the 1917 general election, and was re-named Île-à-la-Crosse. Île-à-la-Crosse and Cumberland were re-joined prior to the 1934 general election, and the new combined riding was given the name Athabasca. Cumberland was split off again prior to the 1938 general election. Prior to the 1952 general election, Athabasca was shifted to the northeastern corner of the province, with most of its previous incarnation being transferred to Meadow Lake, with small parts transferred to the new Athabasca riding and Cumberland. This arrangement lasted until the 1971 general election, when the northern half of Meadow Lake was added back to the district. Finally, prior to the 1975 general election, the riding moved back to the northwestern corner of the province, adding back most of the territory in Meadow Lake, while losing it eastern half to Cumberland. The riding has remained in this configuration ever since.

History
In 1995 Buckley Belanger was elected, winning by 159 votes. Belanger left the Liberals, putting his seat on the line to run as a New Democrat. In the by-election, he defeated the Liberal candidate by 2,050 votes (94% of the popular vote), the second-largest majority in the history of the province. Belanger was subsequently re-elected in every general election since then, most recently in 2016. He resigned in 2021 to run as a Liberal in the 2021 Canadian federal election, but failed to be elected to the federal riding of Desnethé—Missinippi—Churchill River. After his defeat, he declined to seek re-election to his provincial seat. In the subsequent by-election, the Saskatchewan Party's Jim Lemaigre, defeating NDP candidate Georgina Jolibois. This was considered an upset, as the NDP has held the predominantly-indigenous riding almost continuously since 1975.

Along with the neighbouring northern riding of Cumberland, Athabasca is considered one of the safest New Democratic seats in Saskatchewan, although candidates for the centre-right Saskatchewan Party have polled somewhat better results in the 21st century compared to SP and Progressive Conservative candidates in previous elections.

Member of the Legislative Assembly
This riding has elected the following members of the Legislative Assembly:

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Melville-Saltcoats

Melville-Saltcoats is a provincial electoral district for the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan, Canada. Located in southeastern Saskatchewan, this constituency was created through the Representation Act, 1994 (Saskatchewan) by combining the district of Saltcoats with part of the constituency of Melville.

The largest centre in the riding is the city of Melville (pop. 4,531). Melville is the smallest incorporated city in Saskatchewan. It is also a major transportation hub, with provincial Highways 10, 15, and 47 running through the city – as well as the Canadian National Railway mainline.

Smaller centers in the district include the towns of Langenburg, Esterhazy, Saltcoats and Churchbridge; and the villages of Calder, Grayson, Spy Hill, Neudorf and Stockholm.

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Saskatchewan Rivers

Saskatchewan Rivers is a provincial electoral district for the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan, Canada. This constituency is located where the North Saskatchewan River and the South Saskatchewan River merge.

Communities in the riding include the towns of Big River and Choiceland; and the villages of White Fox, Debden, Meath Park, Candle Lake, Smeaton, and Christopher Lake.

Members of the Legislative Assembly
The district has elected the following MLAs:

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Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound

Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Unbound is a 1993 Japanese animated science fantasy martial arts film and the ninth Dragon Ball Z feature film. It was released in Japan on July 10 at the Toei Anime Fair, where it was shown alongside Dr. Slump and Arale-chan: N-cha! From Penguin Village with Love and the first Yu Yu Hakusho film. The antagonist Bojack was created by Takao Koyama and was designed by series creator Akira Toriyama. The film is the last to feature Kōhei Miyauchi as Master Roshi, who died two years after its release. It was preceded by Dragon Ball Z: Broly – The Legendary Super Saiyan and followed by Dragon Ball Z: Broly – Second Coming.

Plot
A wealthy family hosts an intergalactic martial arts tournament on Earth in which fighters from across the galaxy compete including Gohan, Piccolo, Future Trunks, Tien Shinhan, Yamcha, and Krillin. All but Yamcha effortlessly advance much to the concern of Mr. Satan who recognizes them from the battle against Cell and knows he will need to face whichever one of them wins. In the semifinals, Trunks fights Tien and defeats him and Piccolo is annoyed by the lack of challenge and forfeits against Krillin. Gohan, Trunks, and Krillin advance to the finals where they each battle an alien fighter. However, as the alien fighters are revealed, the fight promoter realizes that these are not the staged, fake aliens that he recruited for the event. Trunks is challenged by a sword welding alien warrior named Gokua, Krillin is defeated by a female alien named Zangya, Gohan confronts the mysterious alien Bujin, and another tournament contestant Doskoi is killed by the alien fighter Bido. Meanwhile, having been complaining of fake stomach pain to avoid fighting, Mr. Satan gets trapped in a transportation pod and sent to the battlefield.

Trunks is surprised by his alien opponent's lethality and is forced to transform into a Super Saiyan to kill him. Trunks is then struck down by an unknown foe while Gohan continues his fight with Bujin until he discovers Trunks and Krillin have been incapacitated. Bojack arrives and tells Gohan about his plans to conquer the universe. Tien and Yamcha join the fight but are quickly defeated by Bojack's minions. Gohan fights them as Bojack watches on in amusement. While in the Other World, Goku and King Kai watch the battle with concern. King Kai reveals that centuries prior, the galactic warlord Bojack had been sealed inside of a star by all four Kais, but when Cell exploded on King Kai's planet, this allowed Bojack to become unbound.

Gohan is overwhelmed by the trio of minions and is nearly killed by Bojack until Piccolo saves him. Piccolo challenges Bojack but is quickly defeated. Trunks also challenges Bojack but is paralyzed by Bujin's energy absorption technique and nearly impaled by Bido's spear before he is saved by the surprise arrival of Vegeta. Bojack pummels Vegeta and assumes his "full power" form while Trunks is overwhelmed by Bojack's minions. With Vegeta, Trunks, and everyone else incapacitated, Gohan fights Bojack alone but is paralyzed by the combined energy absorption techniques of his minions. Gohan is attacked by Bojack but the sudden arrival of Mr. Satan's incoming pod distracts them. Gohan prepares to fight once again but is struck down by Bojack and his minions as Goku watches on helplessly as his son is captured in a bear hug and tortured.

Against the rules of Other World, Goku abruptly uses his instantaneous movement technique to transport himself to the fight and strikes Bojack before he can kill Gohan. After some advice and reassurance, Goku places his son on the ground safely and vanishes. Gohan, reinvigorated by his father's words, transforms into his Super Saiyan 2 form. Now unaffected by their attacks, Gohan effortlessly kills Bido and Bujin and Zangya is killed when Bojack blasts her toward Gohan. Bojack is impaled through the abdomen by Gohan's fist and as a last resort, he powers up a massive energy blast which Gohan counters with a Kamehameha wave. The energy beams clash and Bojack is killed. Gohan, exhausted, falls in delight as Goku praises his son from Other World. After the battle, the warriors and their friends laugh as they watch the news from the hospital that Mr. Satan is the one who defeated the alien intruders. On the roof, Vegeta and Piccolo sit, unimpressed by the cheerful tidings.

Cast
A third English version, produced and released exclusively in Malaysia by Speedy Video, features an unknown cast.

Music

 * OP (Opening Theme):
 * "Cha-La Head-Cha-La"
 * Lyrics by Yukinojō Mori
 * Music by Chiho Kiyooka
 * Arranged by Kenji Yamamoto
 * Performed by Hironobu Kageyama
 * ED (Ending Theme):
 * "Beyond Galaxies Rising High" (銀河を超えてライジング・ハイ)
 * Lyrics by Dai Satō
 * Music by Chiho Kiyooka
 * Arranged by Kenji Yamamoto
 * Performed by Hironobu Kageyama

English dub soundtrack
The score for the Funimation English dub was composed by Mark Menza. The Double Feature release contains an alternate audio track containing the English dub with original Japanese background music by Shunsuke Kikuchi, an opening theme of "Cha-La Head-Cha-La", and an ending theme of "Beyond Galaxies Rising High".

Box office
At the Japanese box office, the film sold 3.3 million tickets and grossed ¥2.23 billion (US$million).

Releases
It was released on DVD and VHS in North America on August 17, 2004. It was later released in Double Feature set along with Super Android 13! (1992) for Blu-ray and DVD on February 10, 2009, both feature full 1080p format in HD remastered 16:9 aspect ratio and an enhanced 5.1 surround mix. The film was re-released to DVD in remastered thinpak collection on December 6, 2011, containing the second 4 Dragon Ball Z films.

AB Groupe released the film in Europe under the title Dragon Ball Z: Super Guy in the Galaxy. It was also the last Dragon Ball Z film to have an English dub produced by AB Groupe, although it was marketed as the 9th volume in the VHS/DVD set by Bridge Entertainment in the Netherlands, followed by Bardock – The Father of Goku, The History of Trunks, and Dead Zone.

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