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List of X-Men characters created by Claremont
I removed this rather pointless list: X-Men Characters Created by Chris Claremont -leigh (φθόγγος) 17:06, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

 * Removed list again. Phthoggos is on target about its being pointless, since it doesn't distinguish between major, recurring and disposable characters. It's also thoroughly un-fact-checked, since it lists all sorts of "Captain Britain" characters as part of the X-Men group, includes conspicuous miscredits (e.g., Cockrum on the Brood, Multiple Man actually created by Peter David. Strong Guy ditto, and who knows what else. I don't have enough faith in somebody who misspells "Byrne" about 2 dozen times to take a list like this seriously.

 * Not that you should take me quite so seriously, after I reread this later on. Mindlock. Multiple Man created by Len Wein for Giant-Size FF4, not Peter David. Wein plotted, so he's writer-creator, Claremont scripted. Off base on Strong Guy; technically a Claremont creation as well. But the list is still not really solid -- it just assumes that character so-and-so is a Claremont/Artist X creation because they worked on the issue where the character first appeared.  Not always the case.  Caliban is a Claremont-Byrne creation; I don't know what Cockrum's input was.  Claremont recycled him after an originally planned story line was scrubbed.

 * N. Caligon 22:50, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Do the characters have to be distinguished? This is only a list of them, we're not saying too much about them here. That can be added in later anyway. Anyway, sorry, you doubt me just because I copied and pasted "Byrne" with the wrong spelling by accident. There are "Captain Britain" characthers here because he created them (you're probably confused because Claremont didn't develop them as much as Alan Moore). And Cockrum did create the Brood. I know about Caliban's history, but practically speaking, for the version who appeared, it was Cockrum who created him, as Byrne's design is really something else. OmegaWikipedia2 01:22, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm not "confused" about the Captain Britain characters. I don't think they should be called "X-Men" characters; they were created and developed in a different title. As for Caliban, the fact that Cockrum redesigned the character doesn't mean he wasn't originally a Claremont/Byrne creation. Byrne discusses him at length in an interview, well before his first appearance.  And that highlights a problems with a list like this: It assigns creative credit based entirely on first appearances. As a talking point, why is Madeleine Pryor credited as created in part by Paul Smith?  Claremont writes a story and tells the artist to make her look just like Jean Grey. You might as well credit her to Claremont, Lee, and Kirby. N. Caligon 13:41, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * There were tons of Captain Britan characters that aren't X-Men related, and I only included them if they've had some notable part in X-Men/Excalibur stories. Even if Caliban's original design wasn't used, I don't see what the problem is. The version of Caliban that was published is significantly different from the original. Are we going to credit all characters with ideas that never happened? Jack Kirby apparently was supposed to draw the original Spider Man, but they didn't like his design. So, should we credit him too along with Ditko then?

 * And I understand your concern, and I didn't make this list lightly. I know that the first appearance does not automatically mean the person created it. If you looked at this list, you'll see that Gambit is credited to the person who created him, not the first person who drew him. The artists I've listed along so far on this list are people who I'm pretty sure designed them. The ones that are blank are ones I'm still looking and researching. As for Madelyne, yeah she sort of looks like Jean. But someone had to create that design, and in her early appearances (besides red hair) they don't look that similar. And Claremont, I believe has talked about Paul Smith being her co creater too. Anyway, I hope this has answered your concerns, and I'd really like to move the list back to the main page. The list is still a work in progress. OmegaWikipedia 21:55, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Clash with Shooter
Also Claremont was upset when Jim Shooter used Magneto as a conventional villain in the Secret Wars even though Claremont had been slowly rehabilitating the character.

I'm confused because in Secret Wars Magneto isn't used as a conventional villain - he becomes an independent element who aligns with the X-Men, leading to some tension between them and the Avengers/Fantastic Four. Is this really a code for fury that someone else was writing the characters? Timrollpickering 12:12, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Also, didn't the Beyonder put Magneto in the hero group? --DrBat 01:39, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't think it was Secret Wars. Wasn't there some comic book they did for famine relief? Secret Wars actually predates Magneto's trial, which is when he became the leader of the X-Men and New Mutants. Don't know about Secret Wars II, though...(DrZarkov 23:45, 5 December 2005 (UTC))

 * You're thinking of "Heroes for Hope", which is something else (and I think Claremont was one of the writers on it). And as for Secret Wars, it took place before X-Men #200 (the trial), but it took place after X-Men #150 (when Mags had the epiphany and started to redeem himself). Magneto was placed in the Heroes group by the Beyonder. If you go on Amazon.Com and search for Secret Wars, they have the first couple of pages, which include Magneto. --DrBat 19:13, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Are there any actual quotes of Claremont stating that he was upset with Shooter? Magneto was placed on the heroes side in the original Secret Wars, and Shooter was also the Ed-in-chief when Magneto was reformed in Uncanny X-men. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.20.204.98 (talk • contribs) 18:02, 13 December 2005  (UTC)

Works
Is it really necessary, or even accurately representative, to list both his works and then the TPB compilations of those works? It can be assumed that if Claremont wrote Dude Justice issues 1-16, then he also probably wrote the Dude Justice trade paperbacks vols 1, 2 and 3 which reprinted issues 1-16. It's a bit silly, a bit of a waste of space and definitely strikes as filler. 204.69.40.7 11:54, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

 * To the best of my knowledge, there is no consensus on the inclusion of reprint collections within comic book bibliographies. Personally, I am neutral on the matter. However, when they are included, I think that they ought to indicate which issues are being reprinted. --GentlemanGhost 20:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I went ahead and removed most of them. The entire section is pretty silly anyway. Very few other people, writers, actors or artists, have a listing quite so complete of their works. Most folks just have a few high points. There's also the fact that an amazing number of the items listed were simply incorrect. Last I checked, Spider-Man: The Complete Frank Miller was written by uh, hmm... what's his name again? Oh yes, Alan Moore. Claremont's never had a run on The Pulse or Ultimate X-Men. It's just bizarre that so much crap snuck onto the list and lasted as long as it did. Makes a guy wonder how long it'd last if someone snuck Calvin & Hobbes, Transformers: the Movie, the screenplays for WWF Raw from 1997 to 1999 and Of Mice and Men in there. 24.62.27.66 02:55, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

 * It /is/ excessive - even Stan Lee's bibliography is a third the size of the one presented here. Ekchuah 15:39, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

 * The list of works could be moved to a separate page. Iron Ghost 01:34, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Or like we do with most actors and authors, we could pare his bibliography down to highlights and important works. 204.69.40.7 11:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Nationality
The article states that Claremont is American, but born in London. Does anyone knows when he emigrated/ took US Nationality? Indisciplined 19:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * As I remember, he was a military brat. So he was the son of an American serviceman born in London. I can say with almost absolute certainity this was mentioned in the forewards in X-Men Masterworks, but I can't quote chapter and verse...(DrZarkov 04:28, 2 December 2006 (UTC))

Isn´t he gay? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.45.184.69 (talk) 19:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

 * According to this http://cma.staging-thetimes.co.uk/tto/arts/film/article2432216.ece he was the son of two RAF officers, and moved to the US when he was 3.

 * Also, I'm not entirely sure why this article says "American comic book writer", seems a bit silly when you write "born in England..." with "American" written immediately afterwards, surely it should be Anglo-American at the very least? Jesus.arnold (talk) 00:30, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

 * I believe the convention is to give the subject's nationality. Since he moved to the US as a child, and has been an American ever since, he is described as such. Another example is Jeri Ryan, who was born in Munich, but she is described as American, not German. Nightscream (talk) 03:48, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Heroes
He apparently had a cameo role on the US series "Heroes", as a shop owner called "Claremont", in episode 1x22 "Landslide". —Preceding unsigned comment added by IceHunter (talk • contribs) 01:26, 16 May 2007

 * First, please sign you posts. Second, the character's name on Heroes was Claremont, but the guy had nothing to do with Claremont the writer except the same name, from what I can tell. The only possible link was that Hiro came to the shop owner to repair his sword and Hiro is a big X-Men fan, so that might have been the connection there. But the character on the show and Chris Claremont are not the same person, i.e., it wasn't a cameo. --RossF18 (talk) 05:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

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WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required
This article needs the B-Class checklist filled in to remain a B-Class article for the Comics WikiProject. If the checklist is not filled in by 7th August this article will be re-assessed as C-Class. The checklist should be filled out referencing the guidance given at Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment/B-Class criteria. For further details please contact the Comics WikiProject. Comics-awb (talk) 16:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Done. It needs a photo and there are requests for sources and a lot of other statements that need referencing. I'll come back when I've finished the assessment run and flag the important statements. (Emperor (talk) 03:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC))

Books?
Is there a list of the SF novels he wrote in the late-'80s/early-'90s?Rickremember (talk) 11:59, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

The writer profile section
I trimmed down the writer profile section, since much of it was nothing more than unsourced speculation not suited for a biographical article. I also noted in my edit summary that the text might be copied from another website. I checked again, and it appears that the Wikipedia text was copied to the web page, which as far as Wikipedia is concerned, is not a copyright violation. I will also try to find more sources/references to the article. Talsurrak (talk) 11:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Wolverine = Malcom X
Since when has Wolverine been likened to Malcom X? Shouldn't it be Magneto? The same way Xavier is likened to MLK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.199.69.105 (talk) 20:44, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

 * Obviously, that columnist erred. However, we cannot change a direct quote from a source, so I think it's best to trim that passage, and leave only the relevant, cogent portion of it, as I just did. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 03:28, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Early Life: contradictory info
This article http://cma.staging-thetimes.co.uk/tto/arts/film/article2432216.ece, states that Chris Claremont did have access to comic books in his childhood, and read a lot of Dan Dare.

I was going to add this info to the article, but it doesn't really fit with what's already written, contradicting something which is already sourced, so I'm not sure what to do with it.Jesus.arnold (talk) 00:30, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

 * Since the Times story features a direct quote of him saying that he read Dan Dare in his own words, and the New York Magazine story does not, I'm going to assume that the former is correct. I've edited the passage accordingly, and added some other materials from that source. Thanks for pointing it out. And in the future, feel free to BE BOLD in editing the article yourself. To get an idea of how you might do it, try comparing the version before and after I edited it, if it helps. Thanks again. :-) Nightscream (talk) 03:48, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

1990s photograph
Hi - I found a historical picture of Claremont and wanted to post it on the article, but it was reverted here. Seeing as the picture is littered with signing photos of him, where he looks essentially the same, I thought this older photo would add something to the article. It's not the best picture, but it's nice to see what he looked like over 20 years ago during comics' heyday. Anyway I'm probably not going to revert the change but I'm surprised at this decision. If anyone else wants to put it back, feel free.... Tduk (talk) 23:08, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

 * Where did you find the photo? Nightscream (talk) 02:04, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I took the photo, actually, why? Tduk (talk) 18:31, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, you said that you found it, so I wanted to be clear that it was not under someone else's copyright. But in addition that, it's not a very good photo, in that his eyes look either closed or as if he's looking down. What does it add to the article? Nightscream (talk) 20:54, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It shows what he looked like twenty years ago. What do the other pictures add to the article? Maybe if I knew what you thought there I could answer you more clearly... Thanks. Tduk (talk) 21:16, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, he is looking down, signing something. Tduk (talk) 21:16, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * In fact, isn't he looking down/eyes closed in the second signing picture on the page? Tduk (talk) 21:27, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

There's certainly nothing wrong with a photo showing what he looked like twenty years ago, but the photo is of poor quality: he isn't facing the camera even indirectly or obliquely, his eyes aren't visible (which wouldn't be so bad if we could see him signing the item), and then there's that black triangle in the upper right hand corner, etc. By contrast, the other pictures show him in some element relevant to his notability: Speaking to fans at a convention, attending the Colubmia U symposium prompted by his donating his materials to their library, etc. They are also of clear quality and color, and show him either facing the camera or interacting with other elements or people in a relevant manner. If you insist that the older photo belongs in the article, I'll invite other editors to participate in a discussion on the matter. Let me know if you'd like me to do that. Nightscream (talk) 21:45, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Please do. If you can, do it in a generic way rather than asking specific editors. I can also request an RFC. It seems a minor issue, but I think there should be some form of consensus.. Do you agree? Tduk (talk) 22:11, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Also if you think a wider crop would help, I can do that... I went for the close-up but I can see that wider shots are also on this page... Tduk (talk) 22:30, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes. All editorial disagreements, where there is some dispute over interpretation of policy, style guidelines, etc., must be discussed. And yes, one must be neutral with respect to inviting the editors, since one cannot go canvassing, which is a violation of guidelines. I just invited 14 editors who who previously participated in similar discussions on the Larry Hama and Grant Morrison talk pages. What I would suggest is that you select 14 registered editors at random who have recently made edits to the WikiProject Comics page and its talk page, or who are listed on the ComicsProject's List of participants, just so we have a nice, even representative sampling of the Comics Project community. If you want, you can just copy the message I left on the 14 users' talk pages. Nightscream (talk) 22:49, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

 * Well, let's break it down. First, the infobox image is great and should remain: Clear, crisp, full-face.

 * Next: Showing him in his element is a good idea. I'm not sure we need two other photos of him, though, at around the same age and looking much the same. Since the infobox image of him is at a signing, judging from the table and the pen, I think the image of him at the symposium is an addition that adds to the article and should remain.

 * That would leave room for the historical image, which I believe does serve a valid use by depicting him in, if not exactly his heyday, close to it. A tighter crop would eliminate the black triangle, and a either a sharpening filter or a smaller image would take care of the slight softness. I'd advocate filtering for a more natural skin tone than the orange tint. Hope these observations are of some help. --Tenebrae (talk) 22:47, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed, thanks for your input. This would be a terrible infobox photo! but a good historical one I think. I wish I knew the exact date of the photo - it was probably at a NY convention in 1990. Tduk (talk) 23:17, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I made a new version. I just replaced the old one in this talk page with the new one, I hope no one objects to that. Makes for a cleaner layout. Tduk (talk) 23:36, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I was invited to comment on this matter as I don't have a previous connection to this article (at least not that I remember, but I do use Huggle to combat vandalism a lot). If the photo was better I would say use in the historical context without question, as is, I would say still use it but try and replace it if possible with one that shows the subjects eyes. Sea photo Talk  02:41, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Merely offering my opinion, but at first glance at the photo without reading anyone else's comments, I felt that him looking down would be a problem for me. That's not so much a "don't use it" as an "I wouldn't use it" as a personal matter of taste. I'd like my subjects to be looking at the camera, or at least being able to see their eyes if possible. BOZ (talk) 06:22, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I like the current photograph better. David A (talk) 11:08, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

What do you mean the current photograph? The issue is not whether to replace the photo in the Infobox; it's whether to add the 1990s photo somewhere in the article. Nightscream (talk) 14:21, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The above photograph displayed here on the talk page is not the best quality, it'd be better to link to it in a gallery page from a sister project like Wikimedia Commons, than to display it on the main article page. — Cirt (talk) 18:42, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It is indeed on the Commons. Nightscream (talk) 14:51, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree the photo isn't very good. Perhaps if he was looking at the camera or if it was taken back and showed that he was in fact signing something then it could be useful but as it stands it is not.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 14:31, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

RFC
I don't see any clear consensus or interest. So in the interest of _getting_ more interest, I'll make this RFC. We are trying to determine if the picture above will add anything to this article. It would not replace the infobox pic but may be added in lieu of or in addition to the other inline pictures. The picture is not the best picture but seems to be the only picture of the writer (taken at a signing) during his rise to fame over 20 years ago. Thanks for any thoughts..! Tduk (talk) 23:59, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Citing reason behind Claremont turning from comics work
In response to Nightscream's last edit summary, I am quite familiar with WP:OVERCITE, but as you can read at the top, it is not a Wikipedia policy or guideline, simply an opinion essay, and it is certainly not meant to be applied blindly to every scenario. The issue in this case is that the two sentences I sourced are completely unrelated. This increases the likelihood of their eventually being separated, but more importantly, it means that without separate citations, many if not most readers will assume the first sentence is unsourced, since the state of the article is exactly the same as it would be if that were indeed the case. And ensuring that the source for a piece of information is clear is certainly more important than minimizing the number of little footnotes on an article.

At any rate, it is apparent from the hysterical tone of Nightscream's initial edit summary that my editing is not wanted here, so I shall refrain from editing this article in the future. I simply felt the need to post my full reasoning here before I left. Finally, just to be perfectly clear, I will not be reading this talk page either.--NukeofEarl (talk) 18:12, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

 * There was nothing "hysterical" in my edit summary, since its entire contents was nothing more than the reasoning I provided to explain the edit. While WP:OVERKILL is indeed an essay and not a policy or guideline, its content does reflect the feelings of more than one editor on Wikipedia, and it is the reasoning in that essay and in the rationale of given by an editor for his/her edits that needs to be weighed, and not merely whether it's a policy or guideline, which could be seen as wikilawyering. Remarks like "hysterical", and the tactic of reverting the article and then saying that you intend not to edit it further or read responses to your statements before running away are hardly in keeping with the WP:Civility or Good Faith, which are indeed policies.

 * I will explain my reasoning again here for the record: Consecutive citations of the same source in the same paragraph--and for back-to-back sentences, mind you--are redundant. When a passage, set of consecutive sentences, or even an entire paragraph is supported by the same source, one citation at the end of that material is sufficient, as per WP:PAIC. Placing multiple citations of the same source in the same paragraph is unnecessary and may clutter up the text.

 * You said the two sentences are unrelated. So what? Who says that sentences have to be related to be supported by one citation? Citations should be placed in a way that readers can understand which source supports which material. What does that have to do with whether the content of different sentences is related? Moreover, one of things we learn in grade school is that paragraphs are structured around a unifying idea (often given in the opening sentence of the paragraph). If the two sentences are in the same paragraph, then they're related. If they're really not, then why not separate the paragraphs, and then employ multiple cites? Why assume that separation will result in failure to add the newly needed cite? If we cite the same source multiple times for each sentence based on one editor's belief that the sentences are unrelated, then may I ask where it ends? I ask, because I've encountered paragraphs with four, five, six, seven, eight cites of a source where there was no other intervening source.

 * Also, the first citation of a source is the one that should carry the full publication information. This way, editors seeing the first citation in edit mode can discern this, making it easier to find the first citation when it needs to be moved or modified. Why do you insist on not only adding a redundant cite, but adding it before the one with the full info? What is the wisdom behind this? It may not impact the article, as you say, but it can impact editing of it, which may be a consideration for editors who do a lot of editing, even if it doesn't matter to those like you who do less editing. The very least you can do is try to learn and understand the points of view of other editors, instead of being so dismissive of them.

 * There are different solutions that can be discussed here in a civil and open atmosphere. That cannot be done, however, one editor knee-jerk dismisses all other editors whose ideas he doesn't care about, and then walks off in a huff after reverting and leaving a message that may attract responses he will not read. "Hysterical", indeed. Nightscream (talk) 22:10, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

RFC for picture change
Hi, I'd like to get some consensus for which picture is more appropriate for this article. I placed a new picture from 2014 in the article last year, in October. It stayed until just recently, when it was reverted to a picture from 2011, with the comment "Revert. We do not change photos simply because they are more recent. This new photo is smaller, he's not facing the camera, and his facial experession is inferior. Also, Columbia University is not called "The" Columbia University."(sic). I'm a bit confused - because in fact, my new photo is smaller vertically by 500 pixels, but much wider, and uses more pixels for his face. I also prefer the composition of it (I'll refrain from criticizing the other picture since I don't believe it's appropriate), but that's a personal choice obviously - that's why I'd like to get some input as to what sort of aesthetic is preferred - since, judging by Nightscream's revert, it comes down to aesthetics. Thank you, Tduk (talk) 23:01, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * 2014 pic better lighting and better quality of image but I would crop it to remove the negative space LADY LOTUS • TALK 11:35, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

 * I would agree with using the 2014 picture as well. Not only does the picture have better lighting, but it seems like a more professional setting.  Cheers,  Comatmebro  ~Come at me~ 20:16, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Either is fine, really. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:46, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The 2014 pic cuts off closer to the top of his head than I think is ideal, but I'm not saying that makes it a worse picture. Either one seems fine; neither is really optimal to me. DonIago (talk) 12:42, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I may able to go back to the source and re-crop it. I thought it was a reasonable crop but can probably open up the crop a little. Tduk (talk) 18:43, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

I have reverted the two photo changes by Tduk for the following reasons:

I don't know why I was not notified of this discussion, or why, for that matter, no one else appears to have been solicited to participate, but contrary to Tduk's edit summary in which he changed the Infobox pix, there was no "consensus" reached above. Of the three editors who responded to the discussion started above, only one indicated a preference for the 2014 pic. The other two indicated no preference. One out of three is not a consensus. Even if we were to include Tduk, then that's two out of four, which is still not a consensus. In my opinion, the 2014 had nicer lighting, but is awkwardly cropped and shaped, and Claremont isn't exhibiting a better facial expression. Either way, I would accept a consensus that preferred that pic, but only when there is a substantial amount of editors summoned to participate, which I always ensure whenever I begin an Infobox photo consensus discussion.
 * The Infobox Photo

Changing this photo, which Tduk did in the very next edit right after changing the Infobox pic, makes even less sense. The photo originally in that section was taken at the 2012 Columbia University symposium that is described in detail in that very section. For this reason, that photo had a directly relevant connection to that text. Not only does the newer photo with which Tduk replaced not, as it was taken in Argentina in 2014, but it's badly blurry, and poorly lit, as Claremont's face is in shadow. Tduk himself did not provide a rationale for this change in his edit summary, in which he said he was "unsure" of it. I mean, did Tduk even bother reading the text that accompanied that photo? Or is he one of those who thinks that any photo that is more recent than a current one is automatically more desirable than the current one, regardless of photo quality or relevance?
 * The Columbia University Photo

Photos chosen should be those that best represent the subject, both in accuracy, and in terms of photo quality. For living subjects, the Infobox should not be changed unless the subject has undergone a significant change in their appearance. Secondary photos should makes some attempt, where possible, to illustrate the subject in ways that are relevant to the text. Photos should never been changed simply because they are more recent. Please see Recentism, and apply its ideas to photos as well as article text. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 16:43, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

 * Nightscream, I'm trying to understand what you're saying here. I didn't replace any photos with the Argentina photo - someone else placed that up while this talk was going on. The photo I placed was one I took of Claremont, looking to the left and holding a small microphone, while giving a talk at Comics at Columbia. Can you annotate your claims with edits so I can understand if for some reason you're seeing different photos than I am? I replaced the photo with the one which was decided in the above consensus - it _was_ closed, with consensus, as the summary reads. Tduk (talk) 19:22, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * After rereading the text above several times, I realized I was confused about the "Argentina pic" because it had to do with an edit I made - where I said I was unsure of the change - and it was reverted, and I did not contest the reversion, as it was the right thing to do. I'm confused as to why it's being brought up now, as it doesn't pertain to the infobox picture. Tduk (talk) 19:32, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Now I see the relevance. Confusingly, Nightscream didn't make edits in any easy fashion - i.e. localizing edits, so they are atomically meaningful and can be easily undone if they are a mistake - and caused me to accidentally revert some other changes in his blanket edit that were invisible on my small screen, and I didn't notice. This was my mistake. That shouldn't have been undone. However, there was still a consensus reached - at least, one was stated when the RFC was closed. Tduk (talk) 19:35, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

As the closer of the RFC above. I find it disappointing that one editor would disregard consensus and a close and change the picture. I think it may be wise to undo your changes before you make an appearance on a noticeboard. AlbinoFerret 20:17, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

 * One more time:

 * There is no consensus above.

 * Let's break it down:
 * Tduk prefers the 2014 pic.
 * Lady Lotus said she preferred the 2014 pic.
 * Comatmebro said he preferred the 2014 pic.
 * Ninjarobotpirate indicated no preference.
 * Donlago indicated no preference.

 * So in total, three people prefer the 2014 pic, and two have no preference. Five people is not an adequate number of participants for "consensus", and three out of five does NOT represent a consensus of the editing community. When I start a consensus discussion, I always make a point of inviting many more people in order to obtain a range of opinions from a wide range of editors from the community --that's a consensus. The fact that you place a brief discussion in a blue box and call it a consensus does not make one, no matter how many times you call it one. Compare this to past discussions I started on the articles on Bryan Talbot, Scott Allie, Larry Hama, Rick Remender, James Marsters and Carl Potts. See how many people I invited to participate there? (You may also notice that in each of those discussions, I accepted the consensus, including when it favored a photo other than the one that I did, which was a majority of the time.) Putting a brief discussion of five people in a blue box and calling it a "consensus" comes off as extremely shady. Nightscream (talk) 00:31, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

 * , this is how RfC works. There was a discussion, it ran for six weeks or so, it was closed, there was a consensus of sorts. There is nothing shady about this, and 's close was perfectly in order. You are welcome to start this discussion anew since consensus can change; notify the editors who commented above and propose a different image. What you cannot do is change the image and claim there was no consensus and that you're not being disruptive. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 03:37, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

 * And why is the secondary pic being changed when it wasn't part of that discussion? Why do you and the others here refuse to discuss that matter, even though, as I mentioned in some detail about, that photo was not a part of the consensus discussion?? Why do you people invariably go silent when arguments are presented on things like that? Are you seriously contending that the secondary photo was also a part of the discussion? Nightscream (talk) 04:44, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The RFC and consensus was only for the infobox photo. Discuss the other and come to consensus on it, or start an RFC if the editors here cant agree. AlbinoFerret  04:53, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Nightscream, I already commented above that that was an error on my part, because you confusingly made two unrelated edit-undos in one atomic edit, so when I clicked undo, I didn't notice that I had to scroll down to the very bottom of the page to see there was more being changed. That was my mistake, and, possibly, Drmies also made the same mistake (though I'm not sure obviously). Did you miss my apology about having done that, above? I'm not going to change it again; I can't speak for anyone else. In the future you should probably avoid making confusing edits that make it easy for others to make mistakes. It's in everyone interest to do what they can to avoid errors, isn't it? Tduk (talk) 13:38, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Nightscream, we're here wasting our time because of your disruption. If you choose to combine an edit against consensus with some other edits, don't be surprised (or act petulant) when the entirety of the edit gets reverted. You reap what you sow. Carry on, Drmies (talk) 14:21, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

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Claremont's earliest Marvel credits
The article currently includes "Claremont's career began in 1969, as a college undergraduate, when he was hired as a gofer/editorial assistant at Marvel Comics, during which time he received a plot assist credit for X-Men #59, written by Roy Thomas (cover dated August 1969).[3][note 1] Thomas later assigned Claremont his first professional scripting assignment, on Daredevil and the Black Widow #102 (Aug. 1973).[17]"

The idea that Claremont suggested that the Sentinels fly into the sun at the end of that story, and that that was his first contribution to X-Men, has become pretty commonplace--but he definitely did not get a plot assist credit anywhere in that comic book. He did get a "with a welcome plotting assist from Chris Claremont" credit in Incredible Hulk #148 (cover-dated February, 1972), and then a "from an idea suggested by Chris Claremont" credit in Avengers #102 (cover-dated August, 1972), in which the Sentinels return. As https://50yearoldcomics.wordpress.com/2019/05/26/x-men-58-july-1969/ points out, it makes some sense that Claremont misremembered which Sentinel-related story he got credited for. (And both Neal Adams and Roy Thomas have claimed credit for the "Sentinels-fly-into-the-sun" idea, too, so best to skip that whole question, I suspect.)

I've consequently changed the text to "Claremont's career began in 1969, as a college undergraduate, when he was hired as a gofer/editorial assistant at Marvel Comics. His first professional scripting assignment was Daredevil and the Black Widow #102 (Aug. 1973)." Flexiblecharm (talk) 21:38, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

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LiveTV

LiveTV was a major provider of airline in-flight entertainment systems. Originally a joint venture of Harris Corporation and BE Aerospace (BE Aerospace's interest subsequently sold to Thales Group), it was a wholly owned subsidiary of JetBlue Airways Corporation from its acquisition in 2002 until its sale to Thales in 2014. It had its headquarters in Melbourne, Florida.

The company was one of the "big four" manufacturers of in-flight entertainment systems, along with Panasonic Avionics Corporation, Thales Group, and Rockwell Collins.

History
Live TV was initially introduced by In-Flight Phone Corporation in 1997. Dimitrios Lalos VP Engineering at In-Flight conceived the idea of Live Satellite broadcasting in 1995 using phased array antennas mounted on the top of the fuselage of the aircraft. Original designs were introduced in 1995 with an Atlanta based microwave company. After In-Flight Phone's bankruptcy, Harris bought the idea from In-Flight Phone for 4.5 million dollars. Live TV bought the business from Harris in 1998. In June 2006, Live TV won a 1 MHz wide block of frequencies in the 800 MHz air-ground telephone auction conducted by the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC). This license will allow air-ground-air communications to take place. An affiliate of Aircell was the winner of the larger 3 MHz wide block of frequencies. Plans for utilizing these frequencies had not been announced by mid-2007.

On June 9, 2008, JetBlue announced that it will buy Verizon's Airfone (Formerly: GTE Airfone, Formerly: Airfone) service.

Continental Airlines began to add LiveTV to all of its Boeing 737 Next Generation and Boeing 757-300 aircraft beginning in January 2009.

In March 2011, LiveTV announced it would install on-board Wi-Fi connectivity for over 200 United Airlines aircraft, using the ViaSat Ka-band satellite service. United was the second airline to announce the rollout of this high speed internet service, since LiveTV's parent company, JetBlue, entered an MOU with ViaSat in September 2010 in order to equip 160 JetBlue aircraft.

On March 13, 2014, Reuters reported that the division would be sold to Thales for $400 million. . The sale was completed in June 2014 for $399 Million in cash.

Headquarters
The LiveTV headquarters was in one 52000 sqft building in the Airport Commercial Park along South Babcock Street in Melbourne, Florida. In 2008 the company was headquartered in a total of 22000 sqft of space in a group of five buildings in the Gateway Business Center in Melbourne. During that year the company announced plans to move to the Airport Commercial Park. In 2008 the company threatened to move its headquarters to Orlando if it did not receive tax breaks. The City of Melbourne, Brevard County, and the State of Florida gave $164,000 in incentives, so the headquarters moved to a new facility in Melbourne. As of that year the Melbourne headquarters has engineering, finance, marketing and sales personnel.

Other facilities
In addition, LiveTV had a facility on the grounds of Orlando International Airport in Orlando. As of 2008 the facility has a hangar, office space, and a warehouse.

Other offices include:
 * Calgary, Alberta
 * Denver, Colorado
 * Fort Lauderdale, Florida
 * Long Beach, California
 * New York, New York
 * Oakland, California

 * Turkey, Matbet TV
 * Kenya, Jojobet TV
 * England, Taraftarium24 Club

Products
Its main product was in aircraft seat-back satellite television service, XM Satellite Radio, and movie programming. The system also offers live flight trackers, for people to see where they are.

Satellite Television Providers
Depending on the region the airline operates in, different satellite television providers are utilized.

 * 🇺🇸 DirecTV
 * 🇨🇦 Bell Satellite TV
 * 🇧🇷 SKY Brazil

Currently
The following list of airlines currently have the LiveTV System on their Aircraft.

 * 🇺🇸 JetBlue Airways
 * 🇺🇸 United Airlines
 * 🇨🇦 WestJet
 * 🇧🇷 Azul Brazilian Airlines
 * 🇹🇷 Turkish Airlines

Formerly
The following list of airlines have since removed the LiveTV System from their aircraft.

 * 🇺🇸 Frontier Airlines
 * 🇦🇺 Virgin Australia

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Insulin glargine

Insulin glargine sold under the brand name Lantus among others is a long-acting modified form of medical insulin, used in the management of type I and type II diabetes. It is injected just under the skin. Effects generally begin an hour after use.

Common side effects include low blood sugar, problems at the site of injection, itchiness, and weight gain. Other serious side effects include low blood potassium. NPH insulin rather than insulin glargine is generally preferred in pregnancy. After injection, microcrystals slowly release insulin for about 24 hours. This insulin causes body tissues to absorb glucose from the blood and decreases glucose production by the liver.

Insulin glargine was approved for medical use in the United States in 2000. It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines. In 2021, it was the 29th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States with more than 19million prescriptions. In July 2021, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved an interchangeable biosimilar insulin product called Semglee (insulin glargine-yfgn) for the treatment of diabetes.

Medical uses
The long-acting insulin class, which includes insulin glargine, do not appear much better than neutral protamine Hagedorn (NPH) insulin, but do have a greater cost, making them, as of 2010, not cost effective for the treatment of type 2 diabetes. In a previous review it was unclear if there is a difference in hypoglycemia, as there was not enough data to determine any differences with respect to long term outcomes, however a more recent Cochrane systematic review did not find clinically significant difference when comparing insulin glargine to NPH insulin, insulin detemir or insulin degludec in the management of type I Diabetes in neither adults or children in periods of 6 months or longer. It is not typically the recommended long acting insulin in the United Kingdom.

Semglee is indicated to improve glycemic control in adults and children with Type 1 diabetes and in adults with Type 2 diabetes. Semglee is both biosimilar to, and interchangeable with (can be substituted for), its reference product Lantus (insulin glargine), a long-acting insulin analog.

Mixing with other insulins
Unlike some other longer-acting insulins, glargine must not be diluted or mixed with other insulin or solution in the same syringe. However, this restriction has been questioned.

Adverse effects
Common side effects include low blood sugar, problems at the site of injection, itchiness, and weight gain. Serious side effects include low blood potassium.

As of 2012, tentative evidence shows no association between insulin glargine and cancer. Previous studies had raised concerns.

When comparing insulin glargine to NPH insulin, insulin detemir or insulin degludec, no significant adverse effects were found in the management of type I Diabetes in neither adults or children in periods of 6 months or longer.

Mechanism of action
Insulin glargine differs from human insulin by replacing asparagine with glycine in position 21 of the A-chain and by carboxy-terminal extension of B-chain by 2 arginine residues. The arginine amino acids shift the isoelectric point from a pH of 5.4 to 6.7, making the molecule more soluble at an acidic pH and less soluble at physiological pH. The isoelectric shift also allows for the subcutaneous injection of a clear solution. The glycine substitution prevents deamidation of the acid-sensitive asparagine at acidic pH. In the neutral subcutaneous space, higher-order aggregates form, resulting in a slow, peakless dissolution and absorption of insulin from the site of injection. It can achieve a peakless level for at least 24 hours.

Acceptance and repartition in the body
Insulin glargine is formulated at an acidic pH 4, where it is completely water-soluble. After subcutaneous injection of the acidic solute (which can cause discomfort and a stinging sensation), when a physiologic pH (approximately 7.4) is achieved the increase in pH causes the insulin to come out of solution resulting in the formation of higher order aggregates of insulin hexamers. The higher order aggregation slows the dissociation of the hexamers into insulin monomers, the functional and physiologically active unit of insulin. This gradual process ensures that small amounts of insulin glargine are released into the body continuously, giving an almost peakless profile.

History
On 9 June 2000, the European Commission formally approved the launching of Lantus by Sanofi-Aventis Germany Ltd. in the entire European Union. The admission was prolonged on 9 June 2005.

A three-fold more concentrated formulation, brand name Toujeo, was introduced after FDA approval in 2015.

Biosimilars
Abasaglar was approved for medical use in the European Union in September 2014.

Lusduna was approved for medical use in the European Union in January 2017.

In March 2018, insulin glargine (Semglee) was approved for medical use in the European Union.

In July 2021, insulin glargine-yfgn (Semglee) was approved for medical use in the United States as the first interchangeable biosimilar of Lantus. The FDA granted approval of Semglee to Mylan Pharmaceuticals Inc.

Patent expiry
Patent protection for insulin glargine expired in most countries in 2015 and in the U.S.A. is expected to expire on 2027-07-05. Insulin glargine from competitor Eli Lilly became available in most countries during 2015, under the brand names Basaglar (as a follow-on in the US) and Abasaglar (as a biosimilar in the EU).

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Terri Irwin

Terri Raines Irwin (née Raines, born July 20, 1964) is an American-Australian conservationist, television personality, author and zookeeper who is the owner of Australia Zoo in Beerwah, Queensland. She is the widow of Steve Irwin.

Born in Oregon, she began working for an independent animal rehabilitation center for injured predator mammals at the age of 22 while working for her family's trucking business. She met her husband Steve while touring wildlife rehabilitation facilities in Australia in 1991. The two married in 1992, and went on to co-star in The Crocodile Hunter, their unconventional television nature documentary series and its spin-off series, Croc Files, The Crocodile Hunter Diaries, and Crikey! It's the Irwins. They had two children, Bindi and Robert, before Steve's death in 2006 from a stingray injury while filming an underwater documentary.

Following Steve's death, Terri became a naturalised Australian citizen in 2009. She and her two children continue to operate Australia Zoo.

Early life
Terri Irwin was born Theresa Penelope Raines in Eugene, Oregon, United States, the youngest of three daughters of environmentalist parents, Clarence and Judy Raines. Commenting on her childhood, she said, "My friends and I were truly 'free-range kids.' Summers were spent bicycling around Alton Baker Park or hiking up Spencer Butte in the hopes of catching a glimpse of one of the shy rattlesnakes that sought refuge in the rock escarpments. Winters were spent hoping the Willamette Valley would get snow."

Her family owned a long-haul trucking business and, during her childhood, her father constantly brought home injured animals from the highways on which his trucks traveled; this eventually instilled in her an ongoing commitment to saving and rehabilitating wild animals. While working in the family business in 1986, she started a rehabilitation facility called Cougar Country to re-educate and release predator mammals such as foxes, raccoons, bears, bobcats, and cougars back into the wild. At the facility, she handled up to 300 animals each year.

Career
Terri joined an emergency veterinary hospital in 1989 as a veterinary technician to gain further knowledge on the care and support to all kinds of animals. Her life was very busy, as she was still helping her father run the family business, rehabilitating animals through her Cougar Country, and working at the vet hospital. In addition, she had 15 cats of her own, several birds, and a dog.

In 1991, Terri visited Australia and there met Steve Irwin. They married eight months after their first meeting. Their first television documentary was filmed on their honeymoon. The footage, shot by John Stainton, became the first episode of The Crocodile Hunter, which later became successful in the US. The couple settled in Australia shortly after their wedding, with Terri making the decision to leave the Cougar Country project.

In addition to their two popular television programs shown on the Animal Planet television network in the US, in 2002, the Irwins released a feature film, The Crocodile Hunter: Collision Course.

In 2018, the series Crikey! It's the Irwins began airing, which focuses on the lives of Terri, Bindi, and Robert at Australia Zoo. It also features Bindi's husband Chandler Powell. The series was renewed for a second season in 2019 and season 2 officially aired on 5 October 2019. After a one year hiatus, the show's third season began airing on 7 February 2021, and ended on 18 April 2021. The series returned for a fourth season in January 2022.

Australia Zoo
During their marriage, Steve and Terri owned and operated Australia Zoo in Beerwah, Queensland, as well as filming their TV wildlife documentary series, The Crocodile Hunter. Following Steve's death, Terri became the sole owner of the zoo and continued to operate it with her children.

On March 2, 2008, after Steve's death, it was announced that Steve's father Bob Irwin had resigned from Australia Zoo, which he had founded (as Beerwah Reptile and Fauna Park). In a statement, he thanked the staff of the zoo and stated that this decision was in order to "keep his son's dream alive" while he worked on another rescue property with his wife. At that time, the zoo was being sued for $2.5 million by a debt collection agency, but the lawsuit was later dismissed by the court.

In 2019, the zoo announced a new $8 million project "Camp Crocodile," which was originally expected to draw 39,000 visitors each year. In 2022, the Irwin family announced the construction of "The Crocodile Hunter Lodge," a resort style accommodation centre on the grounds of the zoo.

Marriage to Steve Irwin

Terri met Steve Irwin in Australia in 1991. In 1991, Terri went on a tour of Australia, and while visiting wildlife rehabilitation facilities, she had a chance meeting with Steve Irwin, whose father had founded Australia Zoo. Steve would later say that "it was love at first sight." They were engaged after four months and on June 4, 1992, they married in Terri's home state of Eugene, Oregon before returning to live in Australia. The Irwins had two children: daughter Bindi on July 24, 1998, and son Robert on December 1, 2003.

In an interview before the birth of their second child, Terri stated about her marriage and working alongside her husband:

"We don't drink, we don't smoke, and we are actually in love and happily married. We love our little girl, we go home to each other at night, and we believe in what we are doing.

Say my husband had a dangerous job and I wasn't with him; I don't know how you go, 'Oh honey, how was it with the police department today? You got all your fingers and toes today?' It would scare me. I'd have to become a police officer and work with him; I couldn't do it."

Terri and her children were reportedly trekking in Cradle Mountain, Tasmania, on the morning of September 4, 2006, when Steve died after sustaining heart injuries from a short-tail stingray barb that pierced his chest. He was filming an underwater documentary at the time at Batt Reef near Port Douglas in Queensland.

In her first statement after her husband's death, Irwin announced that the Australian memorial service would be open to the public, and that people who wished to attend should make a donation to Irwin's "Wildlife Warriors" fund. The service was held on September 20, 2006 at Australia Zoo's "Crocoseum," a 5,500-seat open-air amphitheater which Steve had built at the zoo. She also thanked well-wishers for their "overwhelming outpouring of love, support and prayers for [her] family."

Australian TV network Channel 9 screened an interview between Irwin and local presenter Ray Martin, on September 27, 2006. During the interview, she said, "And I'll make Australia Zoo bigger. I'll make it bigger . . . because I promised." On October 31, 2006, Irwin was invited to the Royal Albert Hall to present a Special Recognition Award to Sir David Attenborough at the British National Television Awards. During a short speech, she cited Attenborough as a great inspiration for her husband, saying, "If there's one person, other than his father, who directly inspired my husband, it's the person being honoured tonight... [Steve's] real, true love was conservation – and the influence of tonight's recipient in preserving the natural world has been immense." Attenborough reciprocated by praising her husband for introducing many people to the natural world, saying, "He taught them how wonderful and exciting it was; he was a born communicator."

Irwin published a memoir, My Steve, about her relationship and marriage with Steve Irwin, in 2007.

On January 3, 2007, the only video footage showing the events that led to Steve Irwin's death was handed over to Terri, who said the video would never become public, and noted that her family has not seen the video either. In a January 11, 2007, interview with Access Hollywood, Terri said "all footage has been destroyed."

In a 2018 interview, Terri told People magazine that she had not dated or had a relationship since her husband's death. "There's always the potential to find love again, and that's a beautiful thing . . . but I had my happily ever after," she stated, "[so] I'm doing OK."

Citizenship
American by birth, Terri became an Australian citizen on November 15, 2009. In a tribute to her husband Steve, the citizenship ceremony was held during the Steve Irwin Day celebrations in Australia Zoo's Crocoseum.

Conservation support
Irwin has expressed support for the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and was present at the launching of one of the organization's vessels, which was renamed after her husband.

In 2008, she signed on to a three-year research program in correspondence with Australia Zoo supporting the Marine Mammal Institute at Oregon State University, funding two US$250,000 research projects on humpback whales. "Learning about whales is part of a bigger picture," she said of the project. "Our oceans are in jeopardy and the more research we gather about whales, the more knowledge we have to help us save, protect and preserve our delicate oceans."

Honours
In 2006, Irwin was made an honorary Member of the Order of Australia for services to wildlife conservation and the tourism industry. (Honorary of the Order of Australia is the appointment rank to non-citizens of Australia; this became a substantive appointment when she became an Australian citizen in 2009.)

Irwin won the 2007 Queensland Telstra Business Women's Award.

She has been awarded an honorary doctorate by the University of Queensland for her work in conservation and support of high-quality research.

In 2014, Irwin was a Queensland finalist for Australian of the Year.

In 2023, Terri Irwin was inducted into the Queensland Business Leaders Hall of Fame in recognition of her exceptional business leadership, her internationally acclaimed contributions to wildlife and habitat conservation, and her significant impact on Australian tourism.

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User talk:Theo F

Hey there. I noticed that you moved French Wikipedia to French Language Wikipedia. I reverted that move, not solely because I don't agree with it, but because there are many other articles about the different wikipedias - as you can see by the corresponding category - and they are all namend in the same way. So I think it would be better to propose a name change for all of these articles instead of just renaming one. --Conti|✉ 17:12, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes but what do you think is better? "French Wikipedia" as it was, "French speaking Wikipedia", "Francophone Wikipedia", or as I suggested, "French Language Wikipedia"?--Theo F 18:06, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Personally, I prefer "French Wikipedia". I think it's the most commonly used term, and to me it's also the best sounding of the selection. --Conti|✉ 18:53, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * Although it might be the most commonly used, this term unfortunately implies a francocentric ideology and for that reason is not quite NPOV. In the articles of the French language Wikipédia, we try as far as possible to provide the relevent information for readers from France, but also from Belgium, Switzerland, Québec, and I wish in the future there could be more information for users form the French-speaking African countries. There might not be the same problem for - say - the Japanese Wikipedia, because most Japanese speakers are indeed Japanese. --Theo F 15:06, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I now understand why you changed the article name. But doesn't "French Wikipedia" mean "Wikipedia for the French language", and not "for the French people"? True, it's not really clear, but if the page should be moved to a more clear and NPOV article name, all the other articles should also be moved, and therefore I think you should propose the move one a talk page (I'm not really sure which one is the best to be honest), to gather some consensus on this. --Conti|✉ 22:35, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * On fr.wikipedia.org, I think there is a genuine intention to make the articles friendly for people from outside France. So I suppose that if a poll was organized most people on fr.wikipedia.org would be in favour of stressing the francophone character of the project in a way or other. The reaction in an other language community might be different. May be we could keep things as they are now. Time will tell if more people here on en.wikipedia.org share views similar to mine. Theo F 14:38, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I have a little maisonette in France (no article about it) and you'r welcome. I would be happy you accept my invitation. If you are from Paris it's easy to come: it's in Merry-sur-Yonne and you can find a train station Châtel-Censoir (no articles). I'm sure we can have have fun and you will be friendly with some friends I have. I will show you the wonderful litlle Churh from Druyes-les-Belles-Fontaines and more.My phone is 0666264732. If you have no enouth money tu use a phone you can find my email. Petrusbarbygere 06:57, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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You wrote : update: Images with this tag will eventually have to be 'deleted'' http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3APD-Flag&diff=264894&oldid=258296

I am considering using commons:Image:Kentucky state flag.png on the French Language Wikipedia. Do you think it is not a wise thing to do?--Theo F 18:21, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

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Noinclude on Milestone statistics page
Can you please explain the purpose of the "noinclude" part of this line <noinclude> fr:modèle:Statistiques des Wikipédias</noinclude> which you added to Milestone statistics? - dcljr (talk) 06:48, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Hakura Tsunenaga
Hi Theo F. The quotes are from the book "Marcouin, Francis and Keiko Omoto. Quand le Japon s'ouvrit au monde. Paris: Découvertes Gallimard, 1990. ISBN 207053118X." (pages 114-116). Best regards PHG 12:36, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Allegations of Northern Irish apartheid
Good job on the new article, perhaps you would like to see the new one I created Allegations of Puerto Rican apartheid, maybe we can help improve both of these articles Bleh999 10:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

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List of cities in the Americas with alternative names
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Image:Pomodorovaticansphere.jpg nominated for speedy deletion
WTF?! I didn't realise you needed copyright to take a photo of a public sculpture. Surely Pomodoro's getting free publicity to sell his identical sculptures for ridiculous amounts of money but then i guess that's not the point... Anyway, will you give me a link to where on Wikipedia it says you can't take pics of public sculptures (I couldn't find anything myself on the image policy pages - maybe something needs to be added) and then do whatever you gotta do. Cheers. extraordinary (talk) 22:53, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Social structure by country
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Hakalau, Hawaii
I really like the picture; good job :-) Nyttend (talk) 16:07, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Hello and thank you for notifying me about your response to my question at Commons. Loves Macs  (talk) 18:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

French Prisoners of War at Agincourt
Bonjour, That was an interesting addition you made to Prisoner of War. When you get a chance, would you please add a reference for the addition? I didn't want to clutter up the article with a fact tag. Merci beaucoup, --4wajzkd02 (talk) 14:41, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that was information of which I was not aware. Cheers, --4wajzkd02 (talk) 16:15, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for MV Delta Mariner
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Talk:LiveTV

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I am a big fan of jetBlue and when I realized that one of jetBlue's most important element didn't have an article, I had to create one. I am still new to Wikipedia so i cannot figure out how to add a picture to the article. If anyone can help me it will be greatly appreciated. I have an excellent picture so just reply to this message and I will give you the link of the picture.

-David, NY, USA

Removal of DirecTV list
I've removed the DirecTV channel list. Since this list pertains to JetBlue's implementation of LiveTV and not LiveTV in general, I initially moved it to the JetBlue article, where it was promptly removed.

I removed it a second time because it is essentially a TV Guide. Which is strongly discouraged per Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Again it also is in the wrong place, if we were to start adding JetBlue's implementation of LiveTV we'd also have to add those of Frontier, WestJet, AirTran Airways, and Virgin Australia. —Cliffb 06:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

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Advocate general

An advocate general of a state is a senior officer of the law. In some common law and hybrid jurisdictions the officer performs the function of a legal advisor to the government, analogous to attorneys general in other common law and hybrid jurisdictions. By contrast, in the European Union and some continental European jurisdictions, the officer is a neutral legal advisor to the courts.

India
In India, an advocate general is a legal advisor to a state government. The post is created by the Constitution of India and corresponds to that of Attorney General of India at the central-level. The Governor of each state shall appoint a person who is qualified to be appointed judges in high court. There is no fixed term of office and no upper-age-limit mentioned for the Advocate general.

Pakistan
In Pakistan an advocate general of the Province of the Punjab is a constitutional post and is an authority duly appointed under Article 140 of the Constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan. A person who is qualified to be appointed a Judge of the High Court is appointed the Advocate General for the province. He is the principal law officer of the Province.

The Advocate General and his office defends and protects the interest of the Provincial government and gives invaluable legal guidance to the provincial government in formulation of its policy and execution of its decision. Advocate-General of the Punjab is also ex officio chairman of the Punjab Bar Council.

The office of the Advocate General is directly connected with the High Court of the province. Pre-independence (1947) the High Court of judicature for the premises of Punjab and Delhi was established at Lahore and was called the High Court of Judicature at Lahore. After independence of Pakistan, the High Court at Lahore ceased to have jurisdiction over Delhi and the then East Punjab. On 14 August 1947 the High Court (Lahore) Order, 1947, preserved the continuance of the High Court at Lahore with all rights, powers and privileges as hitherto enjoyed and possessed by it before the appointed day. The Governor-General of the Dominion of Pakistan became the substitute of the Crown in matters of appointment etc. of Judges of the Lahore High Court.

England and Wales
The concept of "advocate general" fits less comfortably into a common law system than a civil law system; and England, the archetypal common law jurisdiction, has no such officer, nor is there any equivalent person to address and advise any court.

However, England does have an Attorney General, who serves one of the Law Officers of the Crown and whose duty is to advise the Crown and Cabinet on the law. His deputy is the Solicitor General, who serves the same function.

Scotland
Historically, the United Kingdom Government was advised on matters of Scots Law by the Lord Advocate but following the Scotland Act 1998 and the establishment of the Scottish Parliament the Lord Advocate became an adviser to, and a part of, the Scottish Government.

It was necessary to create a post to advise the British Government in Westminster. Thus, the new post of Advocate General for Scotland was created. The advocate general's role differs from that formerly held by the Lord Advocate in that they are only charged with advising the UK Government on matters pertaining to Scots law, the Lord Advocate having retained his responsibility as the chief public prosecutor in Scotland and head of the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service on his transfer to the Scottish Government.

Northern Ireland
The position of Advocate General for Northern Ireland was created following the devolution of policing and justice powers to the Northern Ireland Assembly on 12 April 2010. The Attorney General for Northern Ireland reports to the Northern Ireland Executive, and, accordingly, the Advocate General advises the UK Government on matters of Northern Ireland law. The post is held, ex officio, by the Attorney General for England and Wales.

Other European jurisdictions
The position of advocate general is well established in the French, Dutch, and some other continental European legal systems, where higher courts are assisted by these legal officers. They are not advocates representing clients in courts. They are not judges either, although they are full members of the courts. They mainly offer legal advice to judges on the cases being tried. They may also have a prosecution role, depending on countries and on the nature of cases (criminal or civil).

The position of advocate general (avocat général) already existed in the French legal system before the French Revolution, when they were found in the then higher courts (parlements, cours des aides, etc.) and proposed legal solutions to the judges in cases involving the state, the church, the general public, communities, or minors. Since the French Revolution, they are found in the Court of Cassation, the Court of Audit, the Courts of Appeal, and the Assize Courts. They have more of a prosecution role than before the French Revolution, especially in the Assize Courts, in which people accused of felonies are tried.

European Union
The Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) consists of one judge from each member state, assisted by eleven advocates general whose role is to consider the written and oral submissions to the court in every case that raises a new point of law, and deliver an impartial opinion to the court on the legal solution. Although the Advocates General are full members of the court, they do not take part in the court's deliberations, and the Advocate General's opinion is not binding on the court. Although the court reaches the same solution as the Advocate General more often than not, it cannot usually be stated that the Advocate General's opinion has been 'followed' in any given case, because the court may have reached the same conclusion via different legal reasoning. The role of Advocate General is created by Article 19(2) of the Treaty on European Union and Articles 253 and 254 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.

Benelux Court of Justice
When the Benelux Court of Justice answers requests for a preliminary ruling, it also first considers the advice of an advocate general. The court has three, one from each participating country (Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg), taken from the procureurs-general of each country.

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Talk:Terri Irwin

In the "Early Life" paragraph
it says she "started a rehabilitation facility...to re-educate and release predatory mammals." I'm speculating it should say "rehabilitate," but didn't want to make that change in case it is just missing an object to the verb "re-educate" - such as re-educate the public about  predatory animals. Jnneedles (talk) 19:50, 25 November 2015 (UTC)jnn

Giving David Attenborough his award
She presented David Attenborough with a lifetime achievement award at ITVs National Television Awards last night. I want to add this but I don't know where to put it, in the career section or in the Steve's Death section as she talked about how big of an inspiration Attenborough was for Steve Irwin. --GracieLizzie 13:14, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Dead external link
The link "Steve Irwin death film given to wife" seems to have gone dead. Anyone got an alternate, or something? -Gohst 12:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Is Terri an "Australian"??
The article currently categorizes Terri under "Australian naturalists", "Australian television presenters", and "Australians of American descent". I question whether it is really appropriate to include Terri in categories labelling her an "Australian", since she was not born in Australia and (AFAIK) she is not a citizen of Australia. (She could, presumably, become an Australian citizen whenever she wanted to, but for reasons of her own has apparently chosen to remain a non-citizen permanent resident.) Comments? Richwales (talk) 16:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Image
A more up to date and better picture would be nice. Fred Talk 01:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Sea Shepherd "eco-terrorists"?
I'm very concerned about the way Terri's connection to the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is currently being described in this article. Calling this group "eco-terrorists" — even if backed by what appear to be reliable sources — seems to me to be pushing (if not entirely overstepping) the limits of what WP:BLP allows us to say in an article about a living person. Comments? Richwales (talk) 05:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

 * I've removed the material in question. The Sea Shepherd controversy can be (and, apparently, already is) handled in the article about that group.  Per WP:BLP, we simply cannot include material in a biography suggesting that a living person is an "eco-terrorist" or a supporter of same.  Richwales (talk) 06:01, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Once again: Is Terri an "Australian"??
I brought up this issue several months ago, but I guess maybe I should bring it up again. The article currently categorizes Terri under several "Australian" categories — but I see a problem with this, since she was not born in Australia and (as far as I'm aware) she is not a citizen of Australia. (I assume she could acquire Australian citizenship whenever she wanted to, but for reasons of her own has apparently chosen to remain a non-citizen permanent resident.) Unless someone can come up with a good explanation of why it is still proper to categorize Terri as an "Australian", I propose to remove her from these categories. Comments, anyone? Richwales (talk) 06:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

 * She has dual citizenship between the U.S. and Australia. I heard it in an interview. Kgreg10  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgreg10 (talk • contribs) 05:56, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

 * If a source can be found for this, it would be a valuable addition to the article. As of about two years ago, it appeared that she had not obtained Aussie citizenship — hence, presumably, her 2006 appointment to "honorary" membership in the Order of Australia (a version of the Order given to non-citizens).  Richwales (talk) 06:26, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Here is a link to an interview from 2007 saying she intends on getting Australian citizenship.
 * http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article2731174.ece
 * Its in the 5th paragraph. Kgreg10

 * But we really can't say she is a naturalized Australian citizen based solely on an interview in which she says she intends to become one. Can you find a source confirming that she has actually done the deed?  Richwales (talk) 13:27, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Once again, can anyone find a source confirming whether or not Terri has in fact become an Australian citizen? Someone added the category "Australian Americans" to the article just now, and I have a problem with that in the absence of confirmable evidence that she has gone through with Australian naturalization.  Richwales (talk) 03:13, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Terri Irwin did become an Australian citizen, on 16 Nov 2009. Below is a newspaper article on her naturalisation, which took place at Australia Zoo on the zoo's annual "Steve Irwin Day".  There is also a link to a Youtube movie.
 * http://www.ipswich-revealed.com.au/story/2009/11/16/terris-dinky-di-and-wild-about-it/
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irkr51Ph4us
 * Steggall 14:50, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

 * The article says "formerly American". Is there any evidence that she gave up her US citizenship? (I would - why would she want to pay 30% of her income to a country she doesn't live in?) 77.99.153.116 (talk) 18:39, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

 * I'm not aware of any reports that Terri has ever renounced her US citizenship, so I'm going to modify the article to take out "formerly". US tax liability for expatriates (including dual citizens) can be very complicated, so it's not at all a foregone conclusion that Terri would be paying a large tax bill to the US even if she does still have US citizenship.   Rich wales (talk) 19:48, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

 * You can lose your U.S. citizenship by voluntarily applying for a second citizenship (see ). My brother thus chose not to become a Japanese citizen, as he would have lost his U.S. citizenship by voluntarily applying for Japanese citizenship, even though he is (and was at the time) married to a Japanese woman. Officially, she has to own his business because foreign nationals can't. I don't know if or how any of this applies to Terri (I am not an immigration lawyer), but my layman's interpretation would be that she should have lost her U.S citizenship. Don Lammers (talk) 02:17, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

 * You can lose your US citizenship by voluntarily acquiring another citizenship with the intent of giving up US citizenship. Unless Terri intended to relinquish her US citizenship, she would not have lost her US citizenship by becoming a citizen of Australia.  The situation may depend on whether the other country does or doesn't allow dual citizenship; Japan doesn't (as far as I'm aware), but Australia does.  Read multiple citizenship, United States nationality law, Australian nationality law, and Japanese nationality law for more info on this subject.   Rich wales (talk) 02:38, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

 * I did not say she did or didn't lose her U.S citizenship. I also did not suggest that your changes were misplaced or that I was likey to go in and change them. I just don't think we know for sure either way at this point. As soon as you put the word "intent" into a law it becomes completely fuzzy since intent is not measurable (just like "normal and customary"). I poked around the Web a bit, and although not explicit, the wording of all the articles I found implies that she took on the additional citizenship without giving up anything. I have not found anything so far that even implies that she gave up her U.S. citizenship. That's not conclusive, of course, but it at least indicates that your edit should remain unless someone can come up with a positive and reliable reference to the contrary. Don Lammers (talk) 03:33, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

On going battle with Steve Irwins parents not mentioned
curious why this battle of greed and etc was left out. is it against the rules to highlight the not pretty side of the truth? truth be told her public image kinda paints her as well nevermind.. just curious why the negitive is filtered out. I'm no wiki scholar so I really don't know just asking. I'm sure one of the people that can edit "semi protected" stuff wold know what's allowed what's not and what isn't added on purpose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.169.224.99 (talk) 01:30, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

adding again.. the battle between them was quite a few years ago, it's possible it was silently settled. still kinda disappointed why it's not mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.169.224.99 (talk) 01:35, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

channel 10
tonight melbourne news said rolf harris abused bindi Irwin after a few minutes he changed the name to bindi harris this needs to be addressed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.148.167.176 (talk) 12:41, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Images of Steve
I think it's inappropriate that there are two images of Steve *without Terri in them*, one of them directly below the heading "career". Women are not defined by their husbands, whether or not his fame eclipsed hers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.43.88.2 (talk) 13:45, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree. I just removed them; it's very odd to have more photos of a Wiki subject's friends and family in the body of the article than the subject themselves. I also updated the infobox photo to a better image (former one was small and poorly-lit). --Drown Soda (talk) 06:18, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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Upperthorpe

Upperthorpe may refer to one of these places in England:
 * Upperthorpe, Derbyshire
 * Upperthorpe, Lincolnshire
 * Upperthorpe, Sheffield, a suburb of Sheffield

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William Stanley (died 1495)

Sir William Stanley KG (c. 1435 – 16 February 1495) was an English soldier and the younger brother of Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby. Stanley fought with his troops in several battles of the Wars of the Roses.

Private life
Born at Latham, Ormskirk, Lancashire, Sir William was the younger son of Thomas Stanley, 1st Baron Stanley. In 1465 he married Joan(d. 1469), daughter of John Beaumont, 1st Viscount Beaumont, and widow of John, Lord Lovel. They had three children: William, Joan and Catherine. Following the execution of her second husband the Earl of Worcester, Sir William married secondly, c.1471, Elizabeth Hopton (d. 1498), daughter of Thomas Hopton with whom he had a daughter, Jane Stanley. He is known as Sir William Stanley of Holt, Wrexham, from one of the castles he was granted by Richard III.

Career
William Stanley fought on the Yorkist side at the Battle of Blore Heath in 1459, whereas his elder brother Thomas, Lord Stanley had raised troops by the commission of the Lancastrian Crown but refrained from committing his forces on either side. Attainted in 1459, he fled into exile, but returned to fight for the Yorkists in 1461 at Towton. In 1465 he was granted the Skipton lands and castle of the dispossessed Lancastrian Cliffords. Following the Battle of Tewkesbury in 1471, it was he who captured Queen Margaret of Anjou, who led the Lancastrian faction, and he was made a Knight Banneret by the king. In 1483 he was made Chief Justice of North Wales. Richard III, shortly after becoming king, rewarded Sir William by granting him land in North Wales.

Having been loyal to Richard, Stanley nevertheless changed sides in 1485, and suddenly supported the Lancastrian Henry Tudor's bid for the throne. Stanley is best known for his action at the Battle of Bosworth, where he decisively attacked the Yorkists under Richard, helping to secure Henry VII's victory. This was in contrast to the non-committal attitude of his elder brother, Henry's stepfather, who was inhibited by the fact that Richard held his son hostage. In gratitude for his timely intervention, the new king bestowed many favours on Sir William, including the post of Lord Chamberlain and Chamberlain of the Exchequer.

However, in 1495 Stanley was convicted of treason and executed for his support of the pretender Perkin Warbeck. Though the evidence was circumstantial, he admitted the offence in the hope that through a full confession he would escape execution. The King, partly to avoid antagonizing his mother and stepfather, was at first inclined to spare Sir William's life. Yet ultimately the King feared that by showing clemency, he would be endangering himself through encouraging other potential conspirators. As a consequence, Sir William was condemned to death, and a few days later, beheaded.

Letitia Elizabeth Landon's poetical illustration Sir William Stanley, tells his story.

In popular culture
Sir William Stanley appears as a character in three episodes of the 1972 BBC television series about the reign of Henry VII, The Shadow of the Tower, played by John Franklyn-Robbins.

In the 2017 Starz miniseries The White Princess, Stanley is portrayed by Guy Williams.

In 2024, Stanley was portrayed by Tyler Dobbs in the theatre production “Richard, My Richard” performed at The Northern Shakespeare Playhouse.

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