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Saski Baskonia

Club Deportivo Saski-Baskonia, S.A.D commonly known as Saski Baskonia and also simply as Baskonia, is a professional basketball team based in Vitoria-Gasteiz, Spain. The team plays in the Liga ACB and the EuroLeague.

1959–1969: start in the provincial basketball
In 1959, the Club Deportivo Vasconia founded a basketball program under the presidency of Félix Ullivarriarrazua. Vicente Elejalde was appointed as head coach. A previous attempt to establish a basketball program, in 1951, had ended in failure.

In its first season, the team finished second in the provincial championship behind Corazonistas. In the 1963–64 season, the team won its first provincial titles, taking both the league and cup. The team went on to win the provincial championship in five of its first ten seasons of competition (1959-69) and achieved the promotion to the 3rd division after Pepe Laso took over as head coach, prevailing over city rival Deportivo Alavés.

1970–1980: the leap to the Spanish top league
Club Deportivo Vasconia was an immediate success in the Spanish 3rd division and was elevated to the 2nd division after beating Grupo Covadonga in the promotion playoffs. In its first season in the 2nd division (1970-71), the team qualified for the promotion playoffs to the 1st division, but was defeated by Breogán. A year later, the team achieved promotion to the 1st division after finishing as the champion of Group A.

The team opened the 1972-73 season in the 1st division by defeating Breogán 89-67. The Basque team went on to reach the semifinals of the Copa del Rey where they were eliminated by Estudiantes. In the 1973–74 season, the club reached 1,400 supporters and signed its first foreign player, the Canadian Phil Tollestrup. The team finished in eighth place and gained the right to play in the Korać Cup but declined to participate on financial grounds.

In 1974, Jose Luis Sánchez Erauskin, former player and founder of the club, took over the club's presidency. The team incorporated young players such as Manu Moreno, Kepa Segurola, Luis María Junguitu, Carlos Salinas, and José Antonio Querejeta, and signed American Ray Price, who became the division's top scorer. Memorable wins in the 1975–76 season included a 70–69 upset of FC Barcelona and a 78-76 road win over Joventut. In 1976–77, Sánchez Erauskin and his board made the decision to change the V by B in the name of the club, which became Club Deportivo Basconia. The team adopted the Basque national colors of the Ikurriña, green with red and white trim instead of the club's traditional blue and maroon. Pepe Laso combined his position as head coach with the Spanish national coach and Iñaki Garaialde and Txema Capetillo joined the team.

In 1977, Juan Antonio Ortiz de Pinedo retired as a player to become the head coach of the team, replacing Pepe Laso. In 1978, José Antonio Querejeta was transferred to Real Madrid. In addition to financial compensation, the club obtained the young player Manuel San Emeterio in return. Iñaki Iriarte became the head coach of the team. Players like Junguitu, and Txomin Sautu returned and Juan Manuel Conde was signed, along with the American Webb Williams. Fernando Aranguiz assumed the presidency of the club in June 1978 and Carlos Luquero was honored for a professional record including more than 300 games and more than 7,000 points with the team. In the Copa del Rey, the team reached the semifinals before falling to that year's winner, FC Barcelona.

In 1979, Peio Cambronero arrived from Estudiantes and the club signed the American Malcolm Cesare, but the results for the 1979-80 season were not good and the team finished the league in a relegation position. Fortunately, the Spanish Federation decided to expand the 1st division to fourteen teams, allowing Club Deportivo Basconia to remain in the league.

1980–1990: in steady progression
The reprieve lasted just one year, as the 1980–81 season was one of the saddest in the club's history. A last-place finish and just six wins led to relegation to the 2nd division. The misfortunes did not end there, as one of its players, Juanma Conde, died after an irreversible illness. This was a blow to the entire club, for the loss of a teammate and a friend.

In the summer of 1981, José Antonio Querejeta, who had returned to the team after passing through Real Madrid and had been tested by FC Barcelona, was transferred to Joventut. The direction of Iñaki Iriarte from the bench and the contribution of Cambronero Peio, Txomin Sautu, Salva Diez, Mikel Cuadra, Xabier Jon Davalillo and Luis Mari Junguitu allowed the team to promote to the 1st division and return to the place that it had occupied among the great teams for almost a decade. A new change in the presidency of the club allowed the arrival of José Antonio Apraiz. The season of the return to the top league was not very positive in terms of results, the team ended up in relegation positions with a baggage of three wins, three draws and twenty defeats. Spanish basketball was preparing to enter a new stage marked by professionalism, and the creation of the Liga ACB made it possible for the team to avoid relegation back to the 2nd Division.

As of the 1983–84 season with the first edition of the Liga ACB, the modern Spanish basketball story begins in which the club was strongly committed to leaving its modest club status. Basque guard Alberto Ortega returns to the team, one of the stars of the league like Essie Hollis and Rilley Clarida became the first couple of foreigners of the club because the new Liga ACB allowed the signing of two foreign players per team. In the 1984–85 season, José Antonio Querejeta returned to the team, Pablo Laso made the leap to the first team after his trip at an American institute with only 16 years, which together with another youth player like Aitor Zárate formed the youngest guards in the league. As a counterpoint to this commitment to youth, an illustrious veteran of Spanish basketball like Miguel López signed for the team. Completing the incorporations with the arrival of Terry White as new foreign player for the team led by Xabier Añua.

In 1985, the club won its first official title, the Copa Asociación which was played among the teams eliminated in the first round of the league playoffs. In the final, the team won to the Zaragoza led by Pepe Laso in Villanueva de La Serena (Badajoz). José Antonio Querejeta was the top scorer of the game with 30 points and the team earned the qualification to the Korać Cup for the following season. At the institutional level, Jose Antonio Santamaría is again the club president. The 1985–86 season was marked by the Korać Cup debut. The first rival was the Dutch Super Cracks Werkendam, which was clearly defeated at home (73–88) and overwhelmingly in Vitoria-Gasteiz (130–94). The next rival was the French ASVEL. In the home game, the Basque team fell against the French team 84–94, but this defeat did not undermine the team hopes to seek the comeback weeks later in Lyon. The game played in the French town at the end of game resulted in a draw at 88 points, but the competition system computed the difference in points of both clashes and meant the elimination of the Basque team from the competition.

At that time, important foreigners such as Abdul Jeelani and Larry Micheaux arrived who gave a plus of quality to a large team from the team (Alberto Ortega, José Antonio Querejeta, Pablo Laso, Jesús Brizuela and the young players Madoz, Urdiain, Felix De La Fuente and Arana) and directed by Pepe Laso who returned to be the head coach of the team for two seasons. A season later, the captain of the team, Iñaki Garaialde, who was honored in Polideportivo Mendizorrotza days before the start of the 1987–88 season, retired as a player. Manu Moreno took over the bench as the head coach. Names like Fede Ramiro, or Agustin Cuesta with an already important experience in Spanish basketball reinforced the team. Larry Micheaux and David Lawrence formed the American couple, but the weak performance of the second led to its replacement by the jumpy Nikita Wilson midway through the season. The team was strong at home and began to stand up to rivals with a bigger budget. The season ended in eighth position.

At the start of the 1988–89 season, José Antonio Querejeta retired as a player. A few weeks after his retirement, offered himself as a candidate for the presidency of the club and José Antonio Santamaría gave his position to the former player, being one of the youngest presidents of the ACB. As president, began the process of converting the club into a Sociedad Anónima Deportiva, as required by the Sports Law. The club became the first Spanish professional sport club to carry out this transformation and was born under the name of Saski-Baskonia S.A.D.. The Baskonia of José Antonio Querejeta wanted to take another step in the professionalization of the club taking as an example the NBA franchises and began to make his first important bets, the signing of Chicho Sibilio after being one of the stars of FC Barcelona. Puerto Rican pivot from the Boston Celtics, Ramón Rivas and the signing of the Argentine Marcelo Nicola who signed a 10-year deal as a franchise player in which the club would settle in the 90s.

The objective was to overcome the seventh place in the final standings that would allow the pass to compete in European competitions. Despite these important bets, the 1989–90 season the club failed to take that step forward. Halfway through the season, Manu Moreno was sacked as coach and the Željko Pavličević signed after a brilliant record in Cibona. However, the team fell in the first round of playoffs against Real Madrid and closed his short stay in Vitoria-Gasteiz as a head coach.

1990–2010: introducing in European basketball and first trophies
With José Antonio Querejeta as president, the club grows exponentially. Herb Brown signed as head coach and Alfredo Salazar began his travels through Argentina to capture talent. In 1991, the club left Polideportivo Mendizorrotza to move to the Araba Arena, which lived its extension from 5,000 to 9,500 spectators at the end of the decade. In 1993, Manel Comas signed as head coach. With Manel Comas, the team won its first Spanish King's Cup, when Pablo Laso and Velimir Perasović led the team to an historical win. The club was already making noise internationally too, reaching the FIBA European Cup final in both 1994 and 1995. When it hosted the same title game in 1996, the team pleased its many fans by downing PAOK behind 31 points from Ramón Rivas. After the departure of Manel Comas, Sergio Scariolo signed as head coach. With Scariolo, the team made its first Spanish Championship playoff final in 1998 and added a second Spanish King's Cup title in 1999. Names like Ramón Rivas, Marcelo Nicola, Juan Alberto Espil, Pablo Laso, Elmer Bennett or Velimir Perasović were some of the protagonists of that decade.

The team started the 21st century with Duško Ivanović on the bench. In his first year, they then found quick success in the newly reborn EuroLeague. With a deep roster featuring Elmer Bennett, Saulius Štombergas, Victor Alexander, Fabricio Oberto and a young Luis Scola, Baskonia reached the 2001 Euroleague Finals, before losing to Virtus Bologna in the fifth and final game on the road. With winning momentum and the additions of Dejan Tomašević and Andrés Nocioni, the team achieved its first double in the next season, with another Spanish King's Cup trophy and its first Spanish League title ever. Baskonia snatched two more Spanish King's Cups, in 2004 and 2006, as Luis Scola and Pablo Prigioni played decisive roles, and success followed the team in the EuroLeague. Baskonia's arrival to its first EuroLeague Final Four in 2005 couldn't have been louder, as the team upset favored host CSKA Moscow in the semi-finals, but couldn't overcome defending champ Maccabi in the title game.

Back home, Baskonia again reached the Spanish League finals, only to lose in dramatic fashion. Baskonia returned to the EuroLeague Final Four in 2006, but once again Maccabi stood in its way, this time in the semi-final. The team also made it to the Spanish League finals, but was swept there. The next season, Baskonia won its EuroLeague regular season and Top 16 groups before sweeping Olympiacos in the Playoffs, as Scola became the Euroleague Basketball's top all-time scorer at that time. Nonetheless, eventual champion Panathinaikos downed Baskonia in the semi-finals and once home again in Spain, Baskonia lost in the semi-finals.

Through outstanding scouting and shrewd management, Baskonia built a squad that went to four straight EuroLeague Final Fours. Baskonia advanced to the EuroLeague Final Four in 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008, losing to Maccabi Tel Aviv in the 2005 final, and 2006 semi-finals, to Panathinaikos in the 2007 semi-finals, and to CSKA Moscow in the 2008 semi-finals.

In the 2007–08 season, the team led by Neven Spahija won its second Spanish Liga ACB championship. In 2008–09 season, the team added its sixth Spanish King's Cup title. In the 2009–10 season, Baskonia won its third Spanish Liga ACB championship by sweeping FC Barcelona on a memorable series-winning three-point play by Fernando San Emeterio. Names like Luis Scola, Andrés Nocioni, Pablo Prigioni. Igor Rakočević, Arvydas Macijauskas, José Calderón, Pete Mickeal or Tiago Splitter were some of the protagonists of that decade.

2010–present: new arena and the new EuroLeague era
In 2012, its arena Fernando Buesa Arena was expanded to 15,504 seats and the many initiatives the club continues to put into practice show that Baskonia is always moving forward. The club reached the EuroLeague Playoffs in 2011 and 2012 and reached the Top 16 14 times in 15 years. In 2016, Baskonia returned the EuroLeague Final Four for the first time in eight years, as the club made it to the 2016 Final Four. Here the team was defeated after overtime in the semi-final by Fenerbahçe. In the third place game, Baskonia lost to Russian side Lokomotiv Kuban.

In the 2016–17 season, the EuroLeague adopted a new league-style format in which a round-robin season of sixteen teams was played. In the first season in the new format, the team changed its core of players and also its head coach, but still remained deep in the playoff zone for most of the regular season and ended up advancing to the next phase with a 17–13 record and seventh place. A four-game winning streak in December and another in March covered up for a negative run of six losses in seven games between Rounds 17 and 23. Baskonia clinched a playoff berth for the 10th time in 12 seasons, but there the team was swept by CSKA Moscow after three tough games. Ádám Hanga was one of the team leaders and was chosen as the EuroLeague Best Defender by the league's head coaches, and Baskonia showed, once again, its innate ability to sign talent that seemed to go under the radar for everybody else with names like Shane Larkin, Johannes Voigtmann and Rodrigue Beaubois playing major roles.

In the 2017–18 season, the club advanced to the playoffs for the third consecutive year and put up a major fight against Fenerbahçe before falling in four games. None of that was looking likely when the Basque club suffered a shocking start, losing its first four games to signal the departure from the coaching position of club legend Pablo Prigioni. The man appointed to turn things around was Pedro Martínez, who immediately effected a remarkable revival as Baskonia won four of its next five games to ignite its challenge. A mid-season dip left the side in the bottom half of the standings heading into the final few weeks of the regular season, but then came a dramatic surge in form that yielded six consecutive win, with the consistent excellence of versatile big man Tornike Shengelia earning him the monthly MVP award for March. A top half finish was sealed with a home win over Maccabi Tel Aviv in Round 29, and although disappointment followed against Fenerbahçe, that playoff berth was a just reward for Baskonia's typically spirited recovery from its slow start. The team was also highly competitive on the domestic front, earning a second-place finish in the Spanish League after pushing Real Madrid hard in the finals.

The 2018–19 season was an important season for the club with the Final Four taking place on its home court. A slow start caused Baskonia to part ways with head coach Pedro Martínez and bring back club legend Velimir Perasović to replace him. Baskonia kept struggling on the road, but won 10 of its last 11 regular season games – including victories against playoff-bound teams CSKA Moscow, Panathinaikos and Real Madrid – to reach the playoffs from sixth place. Baskonia managed to do something no team had done in over a decade – steal home-court advantage in a playoff series against CSKA, but the Russian powerhouse recovered with back-to-back wins at Buesa Arena to qualify for the Final Four and eventually win the title. Vincent Poirier was chosen to the All-EuroLeague Second Team. Baskonia had early exits in its two main domestic competitions; it lost against Joventut in the Copa del Rey quarterfinals and against Zaragoza in the Spanish League quarterfinals.

On 30 June 2020, ten years after their last title, Baskonia won the 2019–20 ACB season, marked by the COVID-19 pandemic.

Sponsorship naming
The club was often referred to for years as TAU Cerámica, a Spanish brand name of ceramics manufacturer TAULELL, which name sponsored the club from 1987 to 2009. Originally, TAULELL used another of its brand names, Taugrés, as the name of the team, before changing the name to TAU Cerámica in 1997. TAU, Taugrés and TAU Vitoria were also frequently used to refer to the team. Baskonia, Saski Baskonia, and Saski Baskonia, S.A.D. refer to the name of the actual sports club itself. In 2009, the Spanish credit union Caja Laboral became the new name sponsor of the club and increased the amount of money that the name sponsor contributes to the sports club's budget. In 2016, Laboral Kutxa end its sponsorship naming to Baskonia.

Baskonia has received diverse sponsorship names along the years:

 * Caja Álava (1983–1987)
 * Taugrés (1987–1997) / Tau Cerámica (1997–2009)
 * Caja Laboral / Laboral Kutxa (2009–2016)
 * Kirolbet Baskonia (2018–2020)
 * TD Systems Baskonia (2020–2021)
 * Bitci Baskonia (2021–2022)
 * Cazoo Baskonia (2022–2023)

Arena
Since 1991, Baskonia has played its home games at the Fernando Buesa Arena, which has a seating capacity of 15,504 people for basketball games. The arena was originally called the Pabellón Araba, from 1991 to 2000. The arena was extensively renovated and expanded in the year 2012.

The arena hosted the 1996 FIBA European Cup Final, in which Baskonia won the title and also hosted the 2010 Eurocup Finals, before hosting the EuroLeague Final Four in 2019.

Depth chart
† indicates an overseas player.

* indicates a "cupo" player.

In compliance with ACB's homegrown player policy, only 2 overseas players can be in the roster for every given match, with the exception of those holding a European citizenship, or from any country with an association treaty, such as the Cotonou Agreement. In addition to that, at least 4 of the players in a 12 or more player roster must be "cupo" players (i.e., they are Spanish, or must have been in the youth systems of a Spanish club for at least 3 years). Euroleague Basketball does not have any policy in regards of players' origin, so it is possible for teams to call more than two overseas players for a match in Euroleague competitions.

Notable players
Despite not having retired any number in its history, four of the club's most notable players have a shirt with the number they wore in their time with the team hung in the Fernando Buesa Arena. These are Pablo Prigioni (#5), whose shirt was put on display in 2017; Igor Rakočević (#8) and Sergi Vidal (#9), who followed suit in 2020; and Luis Scola (#4), who was inducted in 2023.

 * 🇪🇸 Carlos Cabezas
 * 🇪🇸 José Calderón
 * 🇪🇸 Carlos Cazorla
 * 🇪🇸 Ilimane Diop
 * 🇪🇸 Jorge Garbajosa
 * 🇪🇸 Roberto Íñiguez
 * 🇪🇸 Pablo Laso
 * 🇪🇸 Fernando San Emeterio
 * 🇪🇸 Pau Ribas
 * 🇪🇸 Sergi Vidal
 * 🇦🇷 Walter Herrmann
 * 🇦🇷 Marcelo Nicola
 * 🇦🇷 Andrés Nocioni
 * 🇦🇷 Fabricio Oberto
 * 🇦🇷 Pablo Prigioni
 * 🇦🇷 Luis Scola
 * 🇦🇷 Luca Vildoza
 * 🇧🇦 Mirza Teletović
 * 🇧🇷 Marcelo Huertas
 * 🇧🇷 Tiago Splitter
 * 🇧🇬 Georgi Glouchkov
 * Velimir Perasović
 * Zoran Planinić
 * Darko Planinić
 * Roko Ukić
 * 🇪🇪 Maik Kotsar
 * 🇫🇷 Jim Bilba
 * 🇫🇷 Laurent Foirest
 * 🇫🇷 Thomas Heurtel
 * 🇫🇷 William Phillips
 * 🇫🇷 Kevin Séraphin
 * 🇫🇮 Hanno Möttölä
 * Tornike Shengelia
 * 🇩🇪 Tibor Pleiß
 * 🇩🇪 Johannes Voigtmann
 * Ioannis Bourousis
 * Christos Charissis
 * 🇭🇺 Kornél Dávid
 * 🇭🇺 Ádám Hanga
 * Pat Burke
 * 🇮🇱 Lior Eliyahu
 * 🇮🇹 Andrea Bargnani
 * 🇮🇹 Simone Fontecchio
 * 🇮🇹 Achille Polonara
 * 🇮🇹 Stefano Rusconi
 * Dāvis Bertāns
 * Jānis Timma
 * 🇱🇹 Simas Jasaitis
 * 🇱🇹 Rimantas Kaukėnas
 * 🇱🇹 Arvydas Macijauskas
 * 🇱🇹 Saulius Štombergas
 * 🇱🇹 Mindaugas Timinskas
 * 🇱🇹 Rokas Giedraitis
 * 🇲🇪 Predrag Drobnjak
 * 🇵🇱 Thomas Kelati
 * 🇵🇱 Maciej Lampe
 * 🇵🇱 David Logan
 * Ramón Rivas
 * 🇷🇸 Miroslav Berić
 * 🇷🇸 Nemanja Bjelica
 * 🇷🇸 Vladimir Micov
 * 🇷🇸 Dejan Tomašević
 * 🇷🇸 Igor Rakočević
 * 🇸🇰 Richard Petruška
 * Goran Dragić
 * Zoran Dragić
 * Jaka Blažič
 * 🇹🇷 Ender Arslan
 * 🇹🇷 Serkan Erdoğan
 * 🇹🇷 Kaya Peker
 * Andrew Betts
 * 🇺🇸 Victor Alexander
 * 🇺🇸 Jerome Allen
 * 🇺🇸 J. J. Anderson
 * 🇺🇸 Joe Arlauckas
 * 🇺🇸 Wade Baldwin IV
 * 🇺🇸 Ken Bannister
 * 🇺🇸 Scooter Barry
 * 🇺🇸 Elmer Bennett
 * 🇺🇸 Anthony Bonner
 * 🇺🇸 Ryan Bowen
 * 🇺🇸 Rickey Brown
 * 🇺🇸 Lionel Chalmers
 * 🇺🇸 Chris Corchiani
 * 🇺🇸 Pat Durham
 * 🇺🇸 Rashard Griffith
 * 🇺🇸 Travis Hansen
 * 🇺🇸 Pierriá Henry
 * 🇺🇸 Darrun Hilliard
 * 🇺🇸 Essie Hollis
 * 🇺🇸 Casey Jacobsen
 * 🇺🇸 Mike James
 * 🇺🇸 Linton Johnson
 * 🇺🇸 Jalen Jones
 * 🇺🇸 Randolph Keys
 * 🇺🇸 Shane Larkin
 * 🇺🇸 Will McDonald
 * 🇺🇸 Jordan McRae
 * 🇺🇸 Larry Micheaux
 * 🇺🇸 Pete Mickeal
 * 🇺🇸 Drew Nicholas
 * 🇺🇸 Dan O'Sullivan
 * 🇺🇸 Lamar Odom
 * 🇺🇸 Lou Roe
 * 🇺🇸 Brent Scott
 * 🇺🇸 James Singleton
 * 🇺🇸 Matt Steigenga
 * 🇺🇸 Darius Thompson
 * 🇺🇸 Nikita Wilson
 * 🇺🇸 David Wood

Head coaches

 * 🇪🇸 Vicente Elejalde 1959–1969
 * 🇪🇸 Pepe Laso 1969–1977, 1985–1987
 * 🇪🇸 Juan Antonio Ortiz de Pinedo 1977–1978, 1982–1983
 * 🇪🇸 Iñaki Iriarte 1978–1980, 1981–1983, 1992–1993
 * 🇪🇸 Manu Moreno 1980–1981, 1987–1989
 * 🇪🇸 Txema Capetillo 1983–1984
 * 🇪🇸 Xabier Añúa 1984–1985
 * Željko Pavličević 1989–1990
 * 🇺🇸 Herb Brown 1990–1992
 * 🇪🇸 Manel Comas 1993–1997
 * 🇮🇹 Sergio Scariolo 1997–1999, 2013–2014
 * 🇪🇸 Salva Maldonado 1999
 * 🇦🇷 Julio Lamas 1999–2000
 * 🇲🇪 Duško Ivanović 2000–2005, 2008–2012, 2019–2021, 2023–2024
 * 🇪🇸 Pedro Martínez 2005, 2017–2018
 * Velimir Perasović 2005–2007, 2015–2016, 2018–2019
 * 🇪🇸 Natxo Lezkano 2007
 * 🇷🇸 Božidar Maljković 2007
 * Neven Spahija 2007–2008, 2021–2022
 * Žan Tabak 2012–2013
 * 🇮🇹 Marco Crespi 2014
 * 🇪🇸 Ibon Navarro 2014–2015
 * 🇪🇸 Sito Alonso 2016–2017
 * 🇦🇷 Pablo Prigioni 2017
 * 🇪🇸 Joan Peñarroya 2022–2023
 * 🇪🇸 Pablo Laso 2024–present

Source: baskonistas.com

Domestic competitions

 * Spanish League
 * Winners (4): 2001–02, 2007–08, 2009–10, 2019–20
 * Runners-up (5): 1997–98, 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09, 2017–18

 * Spanish Cup
 * Winners (6): 1995, 1999, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2009
 * Runners-up (3): 1994, 2003, 2008

 * Spanish Supercup
 * Winners (4): 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008.
 * Runners-up (2): 2011, 2018

 * Association Cup
 * Winners (1): 1985

 * 2nd Division
 * Winners (1): 1971–72

 * Basque Cup
 * Winners (4): 2010–11, 2011–12, 2018–19, 2022–23

European competitions

 * EuroLeague
 * Runners-up (2): 2000–01, 2004–05
 * 3rd place (1): 2005–06
 * 4th place (3): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2015–16
 * Final Four (6): 2001, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2016

 * FIBA Saporta Cup
 * Winners (1): 1995–96 MVP Ramón Rivas
 * Runners-up (2): 1993–94, 1994–95

Other competitions

 * Trofeo Diputación / Álava
 * Winners (27): 1991, 1992, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022

 * Estella, Spain Invitational Game
 * Winners (1): 2007

 * Logroño, Spain Invitational Game
 * Winners (1): 2007

 * Ourense, Spain Invitational Game
 * Winners (1): 2008

 * Tudela, Spain Invitational Game
 * Winners (1): 2008

 * Torneo de Lleida Stagepro
 * 3rd Place (1): 2009

 * Switzerland Invitational Game
 * Winners (1): 2010

 * Torneo Angers
 * Winners (1): 2010

 * Lanzarote, Spain Invitational Game
 * Winners (1): 2011

 * Bergara, Spain Invitational Game
 * Winners (1): 2015

 * Torneo Fundacion CID
 * Runners-up (1): 2016

Individual awards
ACB Most Valuable Player
 * Kenny Green – 1997
 * Andrés Nocioni – 2004
 * Luis Scola – 2005, 2007
 * Tiago Splitter – 2010
 * Fernando San Emeterio – 2011
 * Ioannis Bourousis – 2016

ACB Rising Star
 * Mirza Teletović – 2008

ACB Finals MVP
 * Elmer Bennett – 2002
 * Pete Mickeal – 2008
 * Tiago Splitter – 2010
 * Luca Vildoza – 2020

Spanish Cup MVP
 * Joe Arlauckas – 1993
 * Velimir Perasović – 1994
 * Pablo Laso – 1995
 * Elmer Bennett – 1999
 * Dejan Tomašević – 2002
 * Pablo Prigioni – 2007
 * Mirza Teletović – 2009

Supercup MVP
 * Luis Scola – 2005
 * Tiago Splitter – 2006, 2007
 * Pablo Prigioni – 2008

ACB Three Point Shootout Champion
 * Juan Alberto Espil – 1997
 * Igor Rakočević – 2007

EuroLeague Best Defender
 * Ádám Hanga – 2017

All-EuroLeague First Team
 * Dejan Tomašević – 2002
 * Arvydas Macijauskas – 2005
 * Luis Scola – 2006, 2007
 * Tiago Splitter – 2008
 * Igor Rakočević – 2009
 * Fernando San Emeterio – 2011
 * Ioannis Bourousis – 2016
 * Tornike Shengelia – 2018
 * Darius Thompson – 2023

All-EuroLeague Second Team
 * Andrés Nocioni – 2003, 2004
 * Luis Scola – 2005
 * Pablo Prigioni – 2006, 2007
 * Igor Rakočević – 2007
 * Tiago Splitter – 2009, 2010
 * Vincent Poirier – 2019

All-ACB First Team
 * Andrés Nocioni – 2004, 2013
 * Luis Scola – 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
 * José Calderón – 2005
 * Pablo Prigioni – 2006, 2007, 2009
 * Igor Rakočević – 2009
 * Tiago Splitter – 2010
 * Marcelo Huertas – 2011
 * Fernando San Emeterio – 2011
 * Mirza Teletović – 2012
 * Darius Adams – 2016
 * Ioannis Bourousis – 2016
 * Ádám Hanga – 2017
 * Tornike Shengelia – 2018
 * Pierriá Henry – 2021
 * Darius Thompson – 2023
 * Markus Howard – 2023

All-ACB Second Team
 * Ádám Hanga – 2016
 * Shane Larkin – 2017
 * Tornike Shengelia – 2019, 2020
 * Vincent Poirier – 2019
 * Rokas Giedraitis – 2021

ACB Most Spectacular Player
 * Tornike Shengelia – 2019

Baskonia B
Baskonia B is the reserve team of Baskonia. It currently plays in Liga EBA, the fourth tier of Spanish basketball.

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Picayune Strand State Forest

Picayune Strand State Forest is one of 37 state forests in Florida managed by the Florida Forest Service. The 78,000-acre forest consists primarily of cypress swamps, wet pine flatwoods and wet prairies. It also features a grid of closed roads over part of it, left over from previous land development schemes.

Picayune Strand State Forest is located in southwest Florida in western Collier County, approximately 2 mi east of the city of Naples. The forest can be accessed via Everglades Boulevard from the north, Jane's Scenic Drive from the east, and Sabal Palm Road from the west. The Picayune Strand State Forest Field Office is located at 2121 52nd Avenue SE, west of Everglades Boulevard S. The Forest is divided into two tracts: the South Golden Gate Estates Tract to the east and the Belle Meade Tract to the west.

History
Picayune Strand was logged for cypress trees in the 1940s and 1950s. After logging was complete, the land was purchased by developers and drained for the construction of what was intended to become the largest residential subdivision in the world. This area became the setting for the infamous "swampland in Florida" scam. Potential buyers were shown the land from the air during the dry season, and many lots were sold to people who never saw their land from the ground. Few homes were built in the subdivision named "Golden Gate Estates" created by the Gulf American Land Corporation due to the lack of electricity and high summer water levels.

By the 1970s, it was obvious that the extensive canal system was having an adverse effect on the natural communities of Picayune Strand and associated ecosystems, including Faka Union Bay and the Ten Thousand Islands area. Soon after, state and federal agencies identified the need to restore the hydrology of Picayune Strand and began to develop a plan to achieve this goal. The first parcels of land in Picayune Strand were purchased in 1985 using Conservation and Recreation Lands (CARL) funds under the Save Our Everglades program. This was an incredibly complex undertaking as it involved acquiring land from 17,000 landowners. In 1998, the federal government gave $25 million in aid to the state of Florida to help bring the land acquisitions to a completion. The Picayune Strand State Forest was officially named in May 1995.

Ecological significance and need for restoration
The Picayune Strand is critical to the health of the adjacent Everglades ecosystem. Historically, the wetlands that composed the Strand contributed to groundwater recharge and regulated the flow of freshwater through the landscape and into the estuaries to the south. The canal system established in the 1970s altered the hydrology of the Strand and surrounding areas by draining the wetlands and increasing freshwater point source discharges into the estuaries. Consequently, former wetlands were invaded by upland and non-native vegetation and the delicate balance of fresh and saltwater in the estuaries was disrupted. The result was an extensive loss of wildlife habitat. Restoration of Picayune Strand was planned as part of the Comprehensive Everglades Restoration Plan (CERP).

Natural features
Picayune Strand State Forest is in the heart of an ecosystem called the Big Cypress Basin. The majority of this hydric forest is under water during the wet season. The forest is composed of cypress swamps, pine flatwoods and wet prairies in the lowlands and subtropical hardwood hammock in the uplands. The northern section of the Belle Meade Tract contains many second growth South Florida slash pine, with some remnant trees being over 100 years old.

Picayune Strand State Forest provides habitat for many species of wildlife, including many that are threatened or endangered. The following is only a partial list of the species that can be found in the Forest: cougar, red-cockaded woodpecker, black bear, white-tailed deer, wild turkey, bald eagle, wood stork, Big Cypress fox squirrel, and swallow-tailed kite. Although cougars (Florida panthers) are rarely observed, visitors often find panther tracks.

Recreation
Picayune Strand State Forest offers many recreational opportunities. A 22 mi equestrian trail winds across the Belle Meade Tract from Miller Boulevard to Benfield Road. All horses in the Forest must have current negative Coggins Test results, proof of which is to be carried by each rider. A primitive equestrian campground equipped with paddocks is located next to the Field Office and trailhead, and an additional oak-shaded primitive campsite is located near the middle of the trail.

In addition, the four-mile Sabal Palm Trail is open to hikers and cyclists and can be easily accessed from Sabal Palm Road. The Sabal Palm Trail is part of the Great Florida Birding Trail. Trails are typically flooded during the wet season. Off-highway vehicles such as all-terrain vehicles (ATVs), off-highway motorcycles and swamp buggies are prohibited.

All Forest visitors are required to pay a $2.00 day-use fee. Fees are paid using supplied envelopes at iron ranger stations located throughout the Forest.

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Reaction scheme template, Chemistry Wikiproject
Hi,

I'm Martin Walker, another chemist posting on Wikipedia, and I've been following your contributions- they are very much appreciated! I notice that you have been writing a lot of reaction pages, and you have posted a "posting template" on your user page. This brings two things to mind:

 * 1) I have around 40-50 images of reactions which are currently NOT posted anywhere except the compound pages- the zinc chloride page for example has lots!  I have refrained from posting these to a general "reactions" location simply because if we have 200 chem reactions and each has 3 examples (not unlikely 2 or even 1 year(s) from now) these simple categories will be swamped.  I have the Commons reactions category bookmarked, but although this has only been going a short while it is already very slow to load.  Do we need to create "articles" within this category to group things together, or should we start subcategories- acid-base, redox, etc?  This relates to the categories vs. article debate on Commons.  I suspect that this category may become almost unusable as a resource by the end of the year (unless I'm missing something, which I often do!).  What do you think we should do?  Once we can resolve this, I'll try and upload my rxn schemes for general use.

 * 1) Can we recruit you into WikiProject_Chemistry, and possibly also WikiProject_Chemicals?  There has been a resurgence of interest in these, and the chemicals project (which writes pages on compounds) has been particularly active, with some of the activity associated with getting Hydrochloric acid onto the main page earlier this week.  I suspect you probably have ideas on how to write good reaction pages by now- do you think we should have some standard guidelines?  Should we have a new Wikiproject devoted just to reactions?  Join us and let us know what you think!

Thanks, Walkerma 16:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Hello. Thank you for taking an interest in my work here.  You've said much, and I have just as many questions.  My current plan is to expand the number and scope of the pages on organic reagents, organic reactions, and pharmaceutical drugs.  I feel relatively new to Wikipedia, so I really don't understand your second question.  What is the difference between what I plan on doing and joining the WikiProject_Chemistry?  What does it mean to join the project?  What would be expected of me?  I apologize for the lack of understanding in this area, but don't let my newbie-ness frighten you.  I'm interested in joining, I just don't know what that means.

 * As for your first question, I agree with you in that the 'chemical reactions' and 'chemical structures' pages are becoming to large to handle. I would favor creating sub-categories because it preserves the heirarchical nature and gives the ability to generate further sub-categories.  If you can set up some sub-categories, I'll help you move the images around.

 * Personally, I look forward to when I can use the Wikipedia as a reference for advanced organic synthesis and drug design. I realize the Wikipedia may never reach that level, but I'm hopeful it will (and maybe even in my lifetime).~K 05:15, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I am still a bit of a newbie myself- you just taught me that useful way of linking from the Commons using "w"! Regarding the categories, I have created some new sub categories in the Commons. I did this by uploading a file with a non-existent category link in it, then I clicked on the red link to write a brief header. My files are scans and don't look as pretty as yours, but they serve to start the cats off. I have made three initial subcats- organic, inorganic and organometallic. I didn't do any biochem cats because it's not my area. Then within organic I created two subcats- functional group interconversions and C-C bond formations; we could consider other ways to split it, but at least it's a start.

Regarding the Wikiproject, this provides a way of coordinating several people's work. A good example of a successful project is the elements project, which led to a standard, well-written page for every one of the significant chemical elements. Two (Helium and Titanium) even made featured article status. One person said "I'll write this" while someone else said "I'll write that", someone else donated the pictures, and within a few months they had an impressive set of pages. By comparison, the reaction pages and chemical compounds are rather random- but we plan to change that. We have a set of goals and lists, and we are working away at the lists- you can see how we are doing at WikiProject_Chemicals/Organization. I recently added your triphenylphosphine contribution, I was about to start work on that when I noticed that you had beaten me to it! The idea is that if we can coordinate things then we don't duplicate each others work, and we end up with a balanced set of pages (that's what the idea of the goals was). We also try to finish things, not just leave things as stubs. Since the contributors can also shape what they work on, you should be able to keep on enjoying your contributions, but you can also see it as part of a bigger effort to raise up the chemistry pages to a higher level. The Chemicals wikiproject is more active right now, but I think once we have reached our goals people may well want to work on reactions, which I can see interest you. As I see it, you need a good infrastructure of compounds like aluminium chloride (surprisingly a rel. new page) before you can write a really good article on reactions like (say) Friedel-Crafts acylation. We would probably just ask you to pick a handful of compounds you like (from the list, or add your own) to write over the coming months.

I agree with your vision of Wikipedia for the long term- though many Wikipedians would probably shudder at the thought! The current emphasis is on making pages understandable for the non-expert; I'm in education so that is a natural emphasis for me, though I confess I get a bit technical sometimes. However I also think that a 14 year old accessing a page like Sonogashira coupling should not expect to have terms like liquid, temperature or even solvent explained, but these sorts of things should be explained in a basic page on (say) Redox reactions. In other words, I believe that in the dark corners of Wikipedia like dysprosium(III) chloride it's OK to be more technical, but when I was editing alcohol recently I tried to be more basic. I also try to "layer" my articles such as cobalt(II) chloride- you can get some good things out of it for your high school project, yet even someone more advanced like yourself would still find it useful. I think once there are a large number of pages of this type on reactions, compounds and chemical concepts, then chemists will naturally gravitate to using Wikipedia as a reference tool. I have no doubt that parallel things are happening in physics, psychology and many other fields, and good luck to them. Walkerma 20:01, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

PS: Sorry to make this even longer, but I would suggest you sign up for the WikiProject_Chemicals and contribute to the 50 reagent pages. Pick a few and let us know which ones, on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemicals. Cheers, Walkerma 20:24, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Response to Tetramethylsilane and trimethylsilyl remark
See my response to your remark on "Tetramethylsilane and trimethylsilyl" at the bottom of my talk page. H Padleckas Talk 05:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Format for references
Since you mentioned that you were (possibly) starting to work on a style guide for chemistry, I wanted to see your opinions on format. I notice that you recently switched the format of some references in Wittig reaction to ACS style- I don't have a problem with that, I wrote them in my "standard" style then noticed that the earlier ones were in another format. Which format do you think we should recommend, or should there be a couple of allowed systems, or is it "anything goes"? Personally I don't like the ACS system of YEAR, Vol, pages, but I have to admit that it is becoming standard- even Elsevier journals seem to be using it now. RSC has their own system, but it is similar to ACS. I personally prefer the system I was trained with of Vol, pages (YEAR), but this is less common than it used to be now that journals like Tetrahedron have switched to the American format. It is still common in books, for example the "Synthetic Methods" series from Thieme uses it- that's why I stuck with using it. I am also aware that a physicist or biologist submitting references will have their own style (see copper(I) oxide, for example)

I think we should probably have a recommended format in our guidelines- one that we agree on. I would suggest that the ACS Style Guide would be a great place to start when designing guidelines (notwithstanding my opinions on reference layout!). What do you think?

Cheers, Walkerma 17:58, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I have to admit that I was "raised" on the ACS style, and am a little baised in its favor. I agree that we should have a recommended format for references.  Wikipedia must already have a recommended format for references, but I must (shamefully) admit that I haven't looked into what it is.
 * When designing guidelines, I believe the best place to start is Wikipedia. (Just to retain the homogeneous look and feel across pages.)  The next place to look is the ACS Style Guide.  After that, I don't know.
 * I haven't begun work yet on the actual style guide. This weekend, my goal is to outline goals for this style guide and post them on the WikiProject Chemistry talk page.  After a week of comments, maybe we can actually start writting the guide.  The reason for posting in WikiProject Chemistry first is get a common understanding with folks, especially Wim van Dorst who seems against the idea.
 * ~K 19:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Chemical Formulae/Reaction Graphics
I noticed you created some chemical reaction graphics. You put on the description page it was made with ChemDraw and Gimp. Is there anything like this for Windows that can create neat graphics easily? At the moment i'm just using Fireworks to 'manually' create grpahics. Thanks. Borb 22:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Hey Borb, I actually use ChemDraw and the GIMP on WinXP.  If you do not have access to ChemDraw, then I suggest you download the free version of ISIS/Draw by MDL.  Walkerma has had good success creating images with ISIS/Draw.  I don't know how he does it, so you should probably ask him about the details.
 * If you just need a few images, and don't mind waiting a few days for me to draw them, just tell me which images you want and I'll deposit them in the WikiCommons.
 * ~K 01:57, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I will give ISIS/Draw a try. I didn't realise chemdraw was a commercial product. I thought it was a plugin for gimp or something. On passing, please can you look at my comment at Category talk:Functional groups. I think I put it in the wrong place and no one will see it. I am trying to make wikipedia chemistry better at the moment but it needs a hell of a lot of work it seems. Anyway, thanks
 * Borb 18:35, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Borb, A great way to help improve the quality of chemistry articles is to join WikiProject Chemistry and/or WikiProject Chemicals so we can all coordinate our activities. WikiProject Chemicals is VERY active right now, and I'm sure that you can get some great feedback quickly. ~K 15:48, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Chemistry history
Hi ~K, I saw here how you deftly inserted some references to a compound to reflect its chemical history. What is your data source? Could I occasionally ask you for more references? Pharmacological history is quite poorly covered (in sildenafil, Nick Terrett is not mentioned, nor is UK-92,480 and Simon Campbell and David Roberts). Could we start with nimodipineJFW | T@lk  28 June 2005 20:30 (UTC)

 * Hello JFW, I don't remember exactly, but I do believe that these references (and the structure) were found in the Merck Index.  I added a reference to sildenafil you might like.  Regarding pharmacological history, my knowledge is very spotty.  I'll contribute where I can.  The pre-clinical history of drugs is closely guarded by pharmaceutical companies.  They typically believe that revealing too much info can lead to me-too drugs.  Some of it can be pieced together by reading the original research articles, but the interesting details are rarely included.  Anyway, I'll bring the Merck Index home from work for the long weekend and I'll add some new info to articles.
 * By the way, the latest issue of Chemical and Engineering News has quite a lot of information on the 'Top 50' pharmaceuticals of the modern age. (About a page per drug.)  This should help alot with some pharmacological background.
 * ~K 29 June 2005 02:31 (UTC)

Thanks! How do I get hold of Chem Engin News? JFW | T@lk  29 June 2005 10:15 (UTC)

 * My local library has a subscription. Otherwise, check out a university chemistry library.  The beginning of the article is here. ~K 29 June 2005 16:24 (UTC)

Great! The whole issue is available online! JFW | T@lk  30 June 2005 11:11 (UTC)

Category:Medicinal chemistry
Should the parent category not be biochemistry? Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 3 July 2005 20:46 (UTC)

 * Definitely not. Biochemistry and many other fields play a role in the design of new drugs, but organic chemistry plays the largest role with the synthesis of the new pharmaceuticals.  Another way to put it: Medicinal chemists are in the Chemistry Deparment, not the Biology Department.
 * I don't mean to stir things up with my category edit. If there was a better way for me to change the category, please tell me as I still feel new here. ~K 4 July 2005 05:28 (UTC)

Leimgruber-Batcho indole synthesis
Hi K, Can you fix the second step in this scheme to show the hydrazine hydrate? Also I would recommend writing out the word Raney in full, someone less knowledgable might get the idea that radium was used! This reaction is an old friend, I worked on it in the lab then we did a pilot scale run (5 kg or so) in 1985 or so, my former employer used to manufacture DMFDMA. Please check my additional content for errors and feel free to make changes- I feel like you and I are good proofreaders of each others work! Cheers, Walkerma 00:31, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Good points. I'll fix the image right now.  Thanks for all the double-checking and help.  I really appreciate it.  ~K 01:15, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Ethanol links
Removing a valid external URL link to a site that refute's Dr. Pimental's flawed analysis on the energy efficiency of ethanol appears that you have a political bias.

http://www.ncga.com/ethanol/debunking/index.htm

But you left the external link to a flawed analysis. Are you letting your bias show?

 * I apologize for not catching and deleting the Pimentel study link also. Ethanol is a discussion about the molecule.  I move both links (and named them rather well I may say) to alcohol fuel where they belong.
 * If you want someone to take your edits seriously, and not immediately think they are linkspam, then you should register and get a user account. ~K 02:25, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Wittig reaction
Hi K,

I have finished uploading my contribution to the Wittig page. Do you think it is complete now, or is there anything still missing? I'd appreciate it also if you can find the missing group from my latest reaction scheme! The only problem that seems to remain (that I can see!) is with printing- if you print the page from IE it's a mess, and if you do it from Firefox it's an absolute disaster (it crashed Firefox twice exiting from Print Preview). A lot of the problem of course is caused by the fact the Firefox can't handle images well, but do you know of anything we can do to improve things? I tried to make things more compact in the later part of the page, and I think it now looks great on screen (though if you disagree please edit) - but it's hard to get a neat printout. Thanks, Walkerma 05:31, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

 * You must have hid your error well, because I can't find any. :) I think the page looks very nice indeed.  The page is definitely complete.  However, there are more things we could add.  (I like your opinion as to whether we should add them.) What I'm thinking of are reactions that form Wittig intermediates.  For example, the reaction of an epoxide with a phosphine generates an alkene via the betaine.  It's not a wittig reaction, but uses a very similar mechanism.  I'm sure there are others, but they aren't coming to mind right now.

 * I'd never thought about the printing errors/problems until you mentioned it. I tried it out, and you're right: Print Preview and the final printed page are awful.  I tried moving the images around the page, but that didn't fix anything.  I searched the Wikipedia in case someone else has mentioned this problem before, but didn't find anything.  I think this is a perfect question for the Village pump (technical). ~K 15:48, 3 August 2005 (UTC)K,

Thanks for the suggestion of the Village pump, I have posted a comment there. As for the reactions you mention, these are definitely not the Wittig reaction and so IMHO they belong in a "see also" along with the HWE reaction etc. We can certainly Wikilink, but I think something like epoxide/R3P rxns should be on a separate page. Thanks again, Walkerma 16:26, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Science pearls
Hello,

Since you contributed in the past to the publications’ lists, I thought that you might be interested in this new project. I’ll be glad if you will continue contributing. Thanks,APH 10:45, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Hello APH, I will contribute, but since I don't have much WikiEnergy lately, I think that I will not join the project right now. ~K 16:26, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I'll wait ;-) APH 07:42, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

MDL ISIS
Thanks for uploading the sildenafil image. I'm having trouble with MDL ISIS 2.5. Do you use it? It's not exporting! JFW | T@lk  17:10, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

 * You're welcome for the image. Unfortunately for you, I use ChemDraw to create TIFF files and The GIMP to convert the TIFF into a PNG file.  This works REALLY well, because (for some reason) the TIFF image is quite large, leading to a nice looking, high-resolution, black and white PNG file.  I have access to MDL ISIS-Draw 2.5 and find it much more difficult to use.  But it does export to TIFF format, so maybe you should try that.  Unfortunately, I can't help you beyond that.  If your copy of ISIS-Draw is not exporting to TIFF, maybe you should reinstall it or get something different. I hope this helps. ~K 19:20, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I hope you don't mind me butting in, I've been using Isis 2.4 for a while on Wikipedia, as I have used Isis for years in my work. This version can't export to TIFF, so I print it out on a laser printer, then scan it in at 600 dpi, then shrink it down in Irfan View to the right size, save it as PNG or GIF. You can see an example of what it looks like here. Walkerma 20:24, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Walkerma, your comments are always welcome here. I'm even more impressed with the image now that I know you went through hell to get it on the Wikipedia.  You should upgrade to ISIS-Draw 2.5, because you can export directly to TIFF.  Just my two bits... ~K 03:20, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Thank-you for expressing your confidence in me at my recent Request for Adminship. The final result was 40/0/0, and my "superpowers" have now been activated. I look forward to helping out with the development of the encyclopedia. User:Physchim62 (talk • contribs)

Med chemist
it says you're a med chemist. would you mind if i asked what your chemistry background is? i'm curious about who contributes to wikipedia. good work, btw. Eugene Kwan 06:31, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Hello Eugene, I got my PhD from an ivy league school and have been working at pharmaceutical companies for several years.  I find industry very unaccepting when it comes to contributing to Wikipedia, so I prefer to remain anonymous.  Of course, I enjoy contributing to the Wiki.  Someday, I think the Wikipedia will become a world-class chemistry reference.  Of course, to get there we will need a lot of contributors like yourself.

 * I see that you are studying with David Evans. That sounds very exciting.  I presume that you are working on some enormous natural product with very difficult stereospecific transformations.  Whatever it is, best of luck, and I hope your synthesis makes it into Classics in Total Synthesis III  ~K 07:13, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind comments. I completely understand your desire for anonymity. Actually, I'm working on methodology for the intramolecular Michael addition reaction. But I may end up doing synthesis in the future. It's very exciting working here. I guess I couldn't leave the aldol page in that condition, what with working with Dave and all. Eugene Kwan 09:04, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

good work on the wittig reaction there. i find the whole thing very confusing... Eugene Kwan 03:57, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

ylide
Sorry about incorrectly changing the spelling of ylide to ylid. I had been reading Organic Chemistry by Clayden, Greeves, Warren and Wothers and it says ylid in there. However a quick check on google shows that almost everyone else uses ylide! Apologies  Ollie 04:04, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

 * No problem. ~K 16:09, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

List of Chem books
Thanks for your comments on the list of chem books talk page. The more people we get to comment the more it covers the whole of chemistry and the more NPOV it can be. I'm not in Med Chem although I'm on the fringe doing some computational chemistry with a couple of guys in the Dept of Med Chem at Monash Uni. The book on Med Chem that you added - how does it differ from "Introduction to Medicinal Chemistry" by Alex Gringauz, Wiley-VCH 1997, which for obscure reasons I have on my shelf, or indeed any other book that covers Med Chem? Obviously you know more about Med Chem than I do. I'm happy to follow your opinion but I would like some reasons that suggest that we are being NPOV or at least not seriously POV. Best wishes, Bduke 03:04, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with the Gringauz book you mention. However, the Wermuth book I added is different from most other medicinal chemistry reference books.  Most med chem books (Ex: Goodman and Gilman) devote a chapter to each major drug class/indication.  (Diuretics, local anesthetics, general anesthetics, etc.)  The Wermuth book does not discuss any drug classes, but instead discusses how to discover and develop a pharmaceutical drug.  (Ex: structure-activity relationships, methods of finding leads, techniques for lead optimization, QSAR, COMFA, etc.) I believe the med chem student and professional would find this book immensely helpful.  I hope this helps. ~K 03:23, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The Wermuth book is indeed a top drawer research text for organic medicinal chemists, one among several that might need to appear on the list. Cheers.  Le Prof  Leprof 7272 (talk) 19:54, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Raney nickel
I replied to your concern on the article's talk page already, so I'd appreciate if you had a look. Also I think it would have been nicer if you had commented on the talk page before removing the material. Thanks. -- Run e Welsh | ταλκ 20:02, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Quite disruptive indeed you were, adding all those references and expanding the safety section. I don't think I'll be ready to forgive you just yet... :-) Thanks! -- Run e Welsh | ταλκ 16:06, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Corey picture
Hi K,

I notice that your (very nice) Corey picture has a "copyright violation" tag on it: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:EliasJamesCorey.gif

Can you fix this, or will it have to be deleted?

Thanks, Walkerma 21:17, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Oops. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.  I guess I made an error and it will have to be deleted.  I'll start looking for a free Corey photo.  If you have one then please change the images. ~K 16:02, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Backdraft
I reverted your edit on the article Backdraft. While it is arguable whether or not a backdraft is part of chemical reaction, it is innapropriate to remove a stub. If you feel the stub template is innacurate, please replace it with a better stub instead of simply removing it.-- Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk 07:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

 * O.K. I'll change it. ~K 14:49, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Clotrimazole structure image
Hi there, a while ago you uploaded the image commons:Image:Clotrimazole structure.png to the Commons. Now, another user has uploaded an additional image commons:Image:Clotrimazol Synthesis.png showing the synthesis of this compound. If you have some time, could you modify the new image so that is in line with your image regarding drawing style? For example, the lines in the new image are much thinner than in your image, the typesetting of the letters is different and so on. Both images are used in the German article about Clotrimazole, so it would be nice if they would look uniform. Best Regards, --Uwe 10:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Please read: Copyright notice SPAM on QSAR page?
Please read: discussion JKW 16:57, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Grignards
The grignard article has been going too organic, what about reactions such as the formation of PhB(OH)2 and PhSnBu3. These are very important reactions in organometallic chemistry which dare I say might end up being used as reagents in organic chemistry. I think that a cat for carbon-heteroatom forming reactions is needed.Cadmium

 * Good idea. The article should have as many categories as is appropriate, and a carbon-heteroatom forming reactions category is also appropriate. ~K 21:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Sadly I have no idea of how to create a new categorie, please tell me how it can be done.Cadmium

 * It's super easy. On the Grignard reaction page, just edit the article to include your new category.  After you save the page, you will notice the category will be a red link.  Click on that new red-link category and it will let you "edit" the category page.  All you really need to do is include a pre-existing category that will serve as your new category's parent.  Good luck. ~K 22:03, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks for fixing the link between categories.Cadmium 20:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

IG Farben building
Hi K, since you maintain the Featured article on the portal, you might be interested to know that IG Farben Building is an FA, it was obviously the HQ of IG Farben (and also Allied forces after WW2). So if you are running out of pure chemistry FAs, you might consider it. Of course, we could always get to work on making the Lavoisier article an FA.... Walkerma 21:29, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

 * I haven't considered going outside the domain of chemistry to find related articles. It's a good idea. ~K 00:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

(Cyanomethylene)alkylphosphorane.png
Hi. Why do you think, that PNG image looks better than SVG version? --Ragimiri 20:00, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

 * The only real complaint I have against that the alkylphosphorane image is that there is no whitespace around the image to separate it from the frame.

 * Before I continue, please pardon my rant.

 * In general, my experience with people converting PNG chemical schemes to SVG images is negative. After the conversion, the quality of the image has gone down.  The fonts generally change; the sizes of all the objects change slightly; the spacing changes; and for colored images, the colors change slightly.  The background goes from white to transparent, which in Mozilla is not an issue, but in IE the transparency is rendered an ugly blue-grey which is a big problem.  The best comparison I can produce is to compare Image:Blaise Ketone Synthesis SchemePNG.png with Image:Blaise Ketone Synthesis Scheme.svg.  (This isn't a good comparison because they aren't the exact same image, but you can see what I'm talking about.)

 * One question I have for you is why do people convert schemes and line drawings to SVG format? It seems to me like a waste of effort.  The SVG images are still rendered as PNGs.  The one big bonus for using SVGs is the infinte scalability, but I make the PNGs rather large so, in practice, the lack of scaling is not really a problem.

 * I hope I haven't offended you. This is just one of those issues that I find irritating. ~K 02:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, chemical structures should be created in vector form, as it wrote on commons:Commons:File_types. I also like SVG images, because they are "nicer" - lines are antialiased etc. In this case, PNG image is 309×133 px large. I think, it's small. --Ragimiri 07:24, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

FAs on Portal:Chemistry
Hi ~K, I hope you're doing well :) I have a question about the FAs on the portal. You seem to be putting them there in chronological order (i.e. the newest ones are the ones that have most recently received FA-status). I did something with the 'selected biography' section using Random portal component, which randomises the biography that will appear on the page. I was wondering whether I should do something like that with the article as well? It depends on what you think is appropriate - whether you prefer to keep it in chronological order, or whether you don't mind mixing it up a little :) I will probably randomise the images, which shouldn't be that problematic, but the articles are different. Let me know how you feel about it, either here or on the portal talkpage. Cheers, riana_dzasta 08:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

 * I think the Random portal component is a fantastic idea. To tell you the truth, I'm getting tired of changing the article once a month.  However, I have a few related questions.  How often is a random article picked?  Is a random subpage picked every time a user loads the portal webpage?  Or is it once a week? or month? or do we choose the time interval? ~K 18:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The page shuffles everytime the page cache is purged. If you go to the portal now, and press refresh a few times, you'll see that the picture, the biography and the element 'in the spotlight' will change each time. So you think it's a good idea for the FAs, too? I totally understand if you're getting tired of changing it every month ;) I don't mind writing up a blurb for lead nitrate and including that as one of our featured article options.
 * If you look at Portal:Psychology, Portal:Cats and Portal:Dogs, there are really good examples of the random portal component in use. Rfrisbie is trying to guide me through the randomisation process, but to tell the truth, it's a lot of code for a non-techy person! :) Oh well, I'll push on and try to figure it out. By the way, I'm made a little 'to-do' list on the portal's talk page, so feel free to make any suggestions there! I'll fix up the featured articles when I have some time later today. Cheers, riana_dzasta 19:32, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

 * If you don't get to it first, I'll finish the FA randomization code before the end of the month. Thank you again for suggesting this.  It's a great idea. ~K 22:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Done the FAs - take a look now! So, things that still have to be done is a DYK section (I'm still working on that, have to archive the news (I'll do that tonight), and I think we need a major topics navbox (which I'll probably need some help with). Do you still think the Chemistry in Industry section is unnecessary? Because I'll get rid of it, if you don't like it. Also, there's been one complaint about the colours :) What do you think of them? Cheers, riana_dzasta 12:53, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Ugi
Hi ~K,

I am also preparing some material for the Ugi reaction this evening: An Ugi-DA, an Ugi-Buchwald-Hartwig reaction, Ugi Heck and Ugi-smiles. Is there any need to synchronise work and avoid duplication ? V8rik 17:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I don't think there is a need to synchronize our work for what you have suggested. I'm mostly done for today.  I look forward to seeing your work tomorrow.  I reorganized the article a little, so I imagine you'll want to put these sections under the ==Applications== section.  Good luck. ~K 17:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

References converter
Hi K

I noticed you were updating a few pages on my watchlist to the new citation format. I thought this little tool might ease the manual work involve: Cyde Weys' References converter. Hope this helps! --Rifleman 82 02:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

need another name
what is another name for titanium oxide? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.227.171.26 (talk) 04:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Name Reaction.
~K, The title on the wiki page that is "Corey-House" Synthesis would be more correctly written as "Corey-Posner, Whitesides-House Synthesis" Just FYI. Thanks. Jselias (talk) 13:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)J

Ziegler Thorpe Reaction
If you still have the template of the reaction scheme it would be good if you could add a second (return) arrow on the far right (betwenn products 2 and 3) as this reaction is reversible and the product actually is a tautomer that jumps back and forth. Regards Hermann Luyken (talk) 12:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Chemistry listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wikiportal/Chemistry. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Chemistry redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Mhiji 13:04, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

File:Horner-Wadsworth-Emmons Mechanism.png
Hi K, from my point of view it would be helpful and perhaps less confusing to people not very familiar with chemical drawings to superscript the locants in that formula. Subscription normally indicates indices. Thanks a lot from Germany --Mabschaaf (talk) 15:25, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Swern oxidation
Hello homie, your work for Swern oxidation is great. I appreciate it. Could you perhaps superscript the numbers on the first image? Thanks in advance! Cheers.

Georginho (talk) 22:27, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello, important ongoing discussion
Dr K …concerning the future direction of the Natural Products article, please see the "Class" section in that article, and skim remaining. Article is in a current sorry state, and it is apparently avoided for its current structure and constraints. See developing discussion at. Perhaps you have a view to express. (PS, it was I that put cobalamin as the lede natural product in that article, an edit that was reverted, not to overtly promote an organomet perspective, but because it is historically and chemically valid.) You can see my User page, hidden though it is—un-gray by clicking on Edit tab—to see who I am. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 18:30, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

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User talk:Pengpascal

Adam Smith (1723 – July 17, 1790) was a Scottish political economist and moral philosopher. His Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations was one of the earliest attempts to study the historical development of industry and commerce in Europe. That work helped to create the modern academic discipline of economics and provided one of the best-known intellectual rationales for free trade and capitalism. ü	The Wealth of Nations also rejects the Physiocratic school's emphasis on the importance of land; instead, Smith believed labour was tantamount, and that a division of labour would effect a great increase in production ü	Division of labour is the breakdown of labour into specific, circumscribed tasks for maximum efficiency of output in the context of manufacturing ü	The specialization and concentration of the workers on their single subtasks often leads to greater skill and greater productivity on their particular subtasks.

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Hilla Becher

Hilla Becher (Wobeser; 2 September 1934 – 10 October 2015) was a German conceptual photographer. Becher was well known for her industrial photographs, or typologies, with longtime collaborator and husband, Bernd Becher. Her career spanned more than 50 years and included photographs from the United States, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Great Britain, Belgium, Switzerland, Luxembourg, and Italy.

Becher, alongside her husband, received the Erasmus Prize and the Hasselblad Award. The Bechers founded the Düsseldorf School of Photography in the mid-1970s.

In 2015, she died from a stroke at age 81, in Düsseldorf.

Childhood
Becher was born in Potsdam, East Germany. Her mother attended Lette-Haus, a photography school for women, and occasionally worked in a studio, retouching photographs. Her father was a high school language teacher, later drafted to World War II.

Hilla Becher was exposed to photography early in life. Becher began photographing at thirteen years old with a 9×12 cm plate-camera. Becher photographed her teachers in high school. She printed and sold photographs at postcard size for the teachers. She was expelled from high school and became an intern for Walter Eichgrun, a working studio and commissioned photographer, in 1951, while studying photography at a vocational school and finishing her high school degree in Berlin. She spent three years working on commission with Eichgrun and did various solo assignments. In 1954, she and her mother moved to West Germany, where she worked as a freelance photographer in Hamburg. In 1957, she was offered a job in Düsseldorf, Germany as an advertising photographer and around 1958, she enrolled into the Kunstakademie Düsseldorf under Walter Breker studying graphic design and printing techniques. She was "the first student to be admitted to the class on the basis of a portfolio consisting solely of photographs." She was also the lead instructor in the darkroom after she completed her apprenticeship with Walter Breker.

Bernd Becher
In 1957, Hilla Wobeser met Bernhard Becher, known as Bernd at the Kunstakademie Düsseldorf, where the two studied. They began a collaboration photographing the Siegerland region where Bernd was raised, and two years later, the couple got married in 1961. The Bechers traveled in a Volkswagen photographing industrial sites all over Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, and France, then eventually, Britain and the US.

In an interview with Süddeutche Zeitung Magazin, Hilla Becher claimed that her husband disliked photography at the beginning of the career. Originally a sketch artist, Bernd believed that photography was more a "means to an end" to further detail in his sketches rather than its own artistic medium. In the same interview, Hilla maintained that though the couple worked as a team, Bernd was the driving force because he was more of a perfectionist than she was.

Bernd died at 75 years old on 22 June 2007 from complications during heart surgery. By that time, their work had achieved worldwide acknowledgements, fascinating other photographers such as Stephen Shore. Their wide influence was also due to their roles as professors at Kunstakademie Düsseldorf, where some of their students included Candida Höfer, Andreas Gursky, and Thomas Ruff.

The couple, after Hilla's death in 2015, is survived by their only son, Max Becher, and his two children.

Work
The beginning of their on-going project was part of the “...polemical return to the “straight” aesthetics and social themes of the 1920s and 1930s in response to the postpolitical and postindustrial subjectivist photographic aesthetics that arose in the early postwar period.” (Heckert, Virginia) Most subjects of the works of “...industrial structures-water towers, blast furnaces, gas tanks, mine heads, grain elevators, and the like-in the late 1950s.” (Heckert, Virginia)  Bernd and Hilla Becher's once said about the works, “The idea is to make families of objects,” or, on another occasion, “to create families of motifs [that] become humanized and destroy one another, as in Nature where the older is devoured by the newer.” (Heckert, Virginia) Bernd and Hilla Becher's works are shown as a group to establish a “...movement itself from image to image to image aimed to be the story more than did the sum of the collected parts, regardless of whether it is the movement of the photographer himself or herself, or the camera, or the movement of our own eye as it skips from one photograph to the next.” (Heckert, Virginia).

The Becher's wanted to focus on what the images provide to the viewer when viewed together, e.g. an anatomy of the relations between constituent parts. Bernd and Hilla Becher's background with Germany and the inspirations from works of August Sander and company. Concepts such as ‘New Objectivity.’ Carrying forward Bernd and Hilla Becher's work is the machine age photographers, albeit complexly. Some describe it as “industrial archaeology” or “a contribution to the social history of industrial work.” Some criticisms of the concept, that those assumptions are misleading.

Bernd and Hilla Becher's state that they have always been upfront about the concept, “things which can be interesting for technical historians, [things] are not visually interesting for us.” Then continue, “We want to offer the audience a point of view, or rather a grammar, to understand and compare; the different structures,” is how they describe their ambition. Through photography, we try to arrange these shapes and render them comparable. To do so, the objects must be isolated from their context and freed from all association.” (Heckert, Virginia) Heckert then moves towards working between three separate attitudes that she states each can be said to be driving Becher project; commitment, delight, and enlightenment. Heckert concludes with an overview of Bernd and Hilla Becher's project criticisms and triumphs.

Hilla is credited for aiding in the start and structuring of the Kunstakademie Düsseldorf's Photography department. Hilla photographed with an 8×10 large format camera and processed her negatives by hand. After 50 years of photography the Bechers developed a distinguishable stylistic aesthetic. Over the years Hilla and Bernd Becher have had conflicting photographic approaches towards their subjects. Hilla wanted the subject to be photographed with its surroundings, while Bernd wanted the subject to be the only focal point. Becher's photographs are studies of industrial architecture and landscapes, the composition of the photograph forces the viewer to examine the structure. The photographs were captured during overcast skies early in the morning, to remove shadows and convey as many details as possible. When displayed, the images are often grouped in a grid pattern by subject or as diptychs.

Art

 * Framework Houses, 1959–1973
 * Water Towers, 1963–1993
 * Fforchaman Colliery, Rhondda Valley, South Wales, United Kingdom, 1966
 * Winding Towers, 1966–1997
 * Knutange, Lorraine, France, 1971
 * Hanover Mine 1/2/5, Bochum-Hordel, Ruhr Region..., 1973
 * Coal Mine, Bear Valley, Schuylkill County... 1974
 * Consolidation Mine, Gelsenkirchen, Ruhr Region
 * Coal Tipple, Goodspring, Pennsylvania, 1975
 * Water Towers, 1988.

Individual exhibitions
Source:

1963

 * Galerie Ruth Nohl, Siegen, Germany

1965

 * Galerie Pro, Bad Godesburg, Germany

1966

 * Staatliche Kunstakademie, Düsseldorf

1967

 * Staatliches Museum, Munich
 * Technische Hochschule, Karlsruhe
 * Bergbau-Museum, Bochum, Germany
 * Kunstakademi, Copenhagen

1968

 * Stedelijk Van Abbemuseum, Eindhoven, Netherlands
 * Wachsman Institute, University of Southern California
 * Goethe Center, San Francisco
 * Galerie Ruth Nohl, Siegen, Germany
 * Städtisches Museum, Mönchengladbach, Germany

1969

 * Städtisches Kunsthalle, Düsseldorf

1970

 * Moderna Museet, Stockholm
 * Galerie Konrad Fischer, Düsseldorf
 * Städtisches Museum, Ulm, Germany

1971

 * Kabinett für Aktuelle Kunst, Bremerhaven, Germany
 * Gegenverkehr, Aachen, Germany

1972

 * Sonnabend Gallery, New York
 * Bennington College, Vermont

1973

 * Galleria Forma, Genoa
 * Nigel Greenwood Inc., London
 * Sonnabend Gallery, New York

1974

 * Institute of Contemporary Art, London (traveled)
 * San Diego Museum of Contemporary Art, California
 * Sonnabend Gallery, New York

1975

 * Rheinisches Landesmuseum, Bonn
 * Museum of Modern Art, New York
 * Sonnabend Gallery, New York
 * Galleria Casteli, Milan

Legacy
In response to a post-war Germanic period, Becher's "subjective photography" tries to humanize, naturalize, and synthesize Germany's history and idealization within the industrialized comportment. The Machine Age brought a visual pace that was "ever-accelerating, ever expanding" and highly juxtaposed to the past, more subdued, Germanic lifestyle. Becher sought to capture the underlying function and organization of this new ideal by ultimately picturing these differences in industrialization. Becher's work is often said to be continuous in that each photograph cannot stand on its own; Becher's work is a body of work and a thematic response in framing the political, enlightening, and responsive post-war Germany.

Becher's work was innovative in that, by capturing the post-war, she has ultimately defined Germany before mass industry and by the idealized past. Stimson, from Tate Paper, writes "by shooting the grand icons of the Machine Age 'straight-on' so they do not, they have claimed 'hide or exaggerate or depict anything in an untrue fashion', by committing themselves to an ethic of representation free of bogus political elevation or degradation, they realize one leg of their generation's postmodern affect". Such is the voice of Hilla and Bernd's work: they sought to represent Germany without ideology and without a politically charged atmosphere.

Awards

 * 1966: British Council grant to photograph mines in Nottinghamshire and south Wales.
 * 2002: Erasmus Prize from the Praemium Erasmianum Foundation, Netherlands, for contribution to the Kunstakademie Düsseldorf, awarded to the Bechers.
 * 2014: Großer Kulturpreis, sponsored by the Sparkassen-Kulturstiftung Rheinland, awarded to Hilla Becher.

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Talk:Incubus (disambiguation)

where can i get the album enjoy incubus?

Could the word be related to Incubate?
 * Yes. Both come from Latin. The verb incubare means "to lie down." ~ 67.42.203.155 07:34, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

There is no info on a second Incubus band that I can find on google. I am deleting this second reference unless someone can provide information about them. 146.186.145.185 05:27, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Opprobrium
Apparently there was at one point a band called Incubus in brazil that moved to the US. They went out of the public eye around 1990 and then reappeared as Opprobrium, since the more commonly known band called Incubus had risen to fame. 66.71.68.210 19:07, 4 May 2006 (UTC) Source:

 * There is an article about this band: Opprobrium (band) heqs 10:05, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

where's the friggin page?
?!? NJlo 19:24, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Cisplatin

POV verbiage?
The previous version contained lots of POV verbage, most of it due to bias or in an attempt to sound like a popular science journalist. Cisplatin "saving lives" is a bit dramatic. JFW | T@lk  15:12, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Excepting its use in the treatment of testicular cancer,  where it has taken a mostly incurable disease and converted it to one most persons survive.Pproctor 04:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Paclitaxel action unknown?
If you click through on this drug, it describes the mechanism of action: disturbance of microtubule dynamics. Suggesting, this latter sentence to be removed removed, which is referenced with article [14]: "The drug paclitaxel may be useful in the treatment of cisplatin-resistant cancer; the mechanism for this activity is unknown.[14] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ansjovis86 (talk • contribs) 14:02, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Cervical cancer chemo easier on black women?
According to this article, Cisplatin causes less resitance among Black women.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=cervical-cancer-chemo-eas

A note of caution: A recent paper on Nature Genetics (Ross et al.2009, Genetic variants in TPMT and COMT are associated with hearing loss in children receiving cisplatin chemotherapy) shows that there is a race-related difference in the frequency of occurrence of a SNP increasing susceptibility to ototoxicity (and they cite another study regarding nephrotoxicity). Africans seem to be, as a population, more subject to these side effects than Caucasians or Asians.

Perin Paola (talk) 13:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)Paola Perin

toxicity on normal tissue
Can anyone say why/if it preferentially damages tumours. Does it have more effect at certain stages of mitosis ? Why does it damage kidneys more than tissues that divide more often such as gut linings ? Rod57 (talk) 15:24, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

 * The reason seems to be that cisplatin does not penetrate inside gut cells, but does enter tumor cells and kidney cells (and inner ear, for the same reason). Membrane transports involved in cisplatin uptake in tumour are still unclear (copper transporters are a candidate, but remember that not all tumors are equal), but in kidney and ear OCT2 seems to be a major player, as shown here.
 * http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20110413?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=3
 * Interestingly, the same study shows that cimetidine blocks ototoxicity and reduces nephrotoxicity induced by cisplatin. However, they do not show whether antitumoral activity is preserved in these conditions. - Perin Paola (talk) 13:29, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

BIN1 and c-MYC involved in resistance
says "the c-MYC oncoprotein decreases production of BIN1, a c-MYC inhibitor. BIN1 usually suppresses an enzyme essential for DNA repair. Thus the sensitivity of cancer cells to cisplatin depends upon BIN1 abundance". Rod57 (talk) 15:14, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Naming
I admit that plenty of genuinely reputable sources use the double "M" for the full chemical name. However, it is unquestionable that "Amine" in any usage, is always used with 1 "m." perhaps there should be a note about this. The other names, which are more specific to the use of this chemical as a drug, are not at issue. The issue is the proper chemical name, which is technically incorrect, though there are journals with it spelled this way. Any chemist, IUPAC, or other wielder of correct chemical naming conventions will agree 100%. Doctors (MD) may disagree, but this is SPECIFICALLY a question of the CHEMICAL (as opposed to its "Drug" name) name. I suggest either a correction or at the very least a note mentioning the discrepancy to alleviate the vast hordes of undergraduates learning about isomerism (this is probably the most widely non-organic pedagogical example of the example of complex isomerism).68.6.76.31 (talk) 06:52, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

 * Well actually, when an amine is a ligand it becomes an ammine; see Ammine complex, and this is the IUPAC recommendation from Nomenclature_of_Inorganic_Chemistry. Just like when water is a ligand it becomes aquo. The names change, although in this case it is slightly confusing because it is so similar to amine. Chris (talk) 10:15, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I assume the above text was meant to have "aqua" as the name for coordinated water and not aquo (aqua = IUPAC rule since 1970); any ligand ending in -o is negative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reedijk (talk • contribs) 14:49, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree that there should be something in the lead to explain the name. I suspect very many readers familiar with "amine" but not with "ammine" have done a double take at the name and looked either here or on google to find out, but many more have wondered and not bothered. --Dan Wylie-Sears 2 (talk) 20:53, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Side effect references
Hello, I have been looking up different references for the side effects. I was wondering how is it possible to get someone to remove the banner regaurding the not cited work under side effects? thank youBeckejac (talk) 17:07, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Side Effects
My sister is taking Cisplatin right now. Early on she developed a rather severe problem with something I can only describe as tinitus. After talking with her doctor she was told that the Cisplatin will cause that in a small percentage of people. highwayman65251 (talk) 16:10, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Dunno if you're still reading this. I had small bower cancer and after surgery was given Fluoruracil chemotherapy. It dramatically increased my tinitus. My oncologist told me that that is a common side effect of many chemotherapy drugs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.167.145.28 (talk) 09:06, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Platinum-based anticancer drugs
The new Platinum-based anticancer drugs from Wiki Ed/UCLA/Chem 171 Winter 2016 (Winter 2016) should be looked at and if needed merged or ........

--Stone (talk) 20:36, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Announce changes
My name is Florian Schaub at Merck KGaA. My aim is to make some little changes in this article. From our point of view squamous cell carcinoma of the head and neck should be added to the passage "Medical Use". Ormaplatin and Zeniplatin can also be added to "See also". Please let me know if anyone has concerns.

--Florian Schaub at Merck KGaA (talk) 18:00, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note and the disclosure of your potential COI. We would only have a Ormaplatin and Zeniplatin under "see also" if we actually had articles to see.  You are welcome to start them if you think that they are notable.  I encourage you to make the changes about the other aspect.  Happy editing.--Smokefoot (talk) 17:34, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

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Structure
This is a planar, specifically square-planar molecule, is it not? If it is, why is it shown with (unnecessary) above-plane and below-plane stereochemistry?HowardJWilk (talk) 20:49, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The molecule as a whole is not planar as the hydrogen atoms cannot be arranged symmetrically above and below the plane defined by the chlorine and nitrogen atoms. Petergans (talk) 09:22, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Mechanism of action
"Cisplatin interferes with DNA replication, which kills the fastest proliferating cells, which in theory are carcinogenic. Following administration, one of the two chloride atoms is slowly displaced by water to give the aquo complex cis-[PtCl(NH3)2(H2O)]+, in a process termed aquation.  Dissociation of the chloride is favored inside the cell because the intracellular chloride concentration is only 3–20% of the approximately 100 mM chloride concentration in the extracellular fluid.

This is in direct disagreement with a recent article by Lippard himself which shows the conversion of the cisplatin molecule, cis-[PtCl2(NH3)2] to the diaqua complex cis-[Pt(H2O)2(NH3)2]2+, not the mono-aqua, mono-chloro complex that is now cited in the article. Although the mono-chloro complex must be formed an an intermediate in the hydrolysis process, it will be destroyed in a second hydrolysis reaction. Petergans (talk) 15:18, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Equilibrium concentrations
The hydrolysis of cis-Pt(NH3)2Cl2) is an equilibrium process, with the following equilibrium constants. Reference B Kankia,T Funck,L Marky; J.Solution Chem., 28,1249 (1999)
 * Pt(NH3)2 Cl2 + H2O [Pt(NH3)2(H2O) Cl]++ Cl- ;  logK1=2.60
 * [Pt(NH3)2(H2O) Cl]+ + H2O [Pt(NH3)2(H2O)2]2+ + Cl- ; logK2=4.52

Therefore, it is incorrect to say that cis-platin is converted into the di-aqua complex on passing into a cell. What happens is that the uncharged molecule passes through the cell membrane more easily than the charged species. Then, as the chloride concentration is lower inside the cell, the equilibria are shifted to the right, increasing the proportions present of both the mono-aqua complex and di-aqua complex relative to the di-chloro complex, compared to the concentrations present when the platinum complexes are outside the cell.

In view of the aggressive reactions to my previous edits, I will not make the required changes myself. Petergans (talk) 09:18, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

An obviously unfinished sentence.
Under Side Effects -> Nephrotoxicity, we have this sentence: "The dose should be reduced when the person's kidney function." This is obviously incomplete. Can someone knowledgeable please complete it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.167.145.28 (talk) 09:07, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Good catch. Added "impaired" from citation.  Sandcherry (talk) 20:57, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

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USS England

USS England has been the name of two ships in the United States Navy. Both were named for Ensign John C. England.

 * USS England (DE-635) was commissioned in 1943 and decommissioned in 1945. She is best known for finding and destroying 6 Japanese submarines in 12 days during May 1944.
 * USS England (DLG-22)/(CG-22) was a guided missile cruiser, was commissioned on 7 December 1963, and decommissioned on 21 January 1994.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/C.A.L.M.

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was merge and redirect. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 14:51, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

C.A.L.M.
No evidence of notability, promotional. Delete. - Mike Rosoft 15:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * "Sir! Advertisment on the horizon!" "Damn these adverts attacking the shores of Wikipedia! Open fire!" "Sir, torpedoes have no effect!" "Blast! Open the main bays! We'll have to send out the special weapon! Fire the Delete vote!" Sorry for the sarcasm, but I really think Wikipedia could do without these adverts eveywhere.

Merely info about an all volunteer, free clinic. Not an advertisement at all. Keep. - bstone 03:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * C.A.L.M. is a non-commercial, volunteer-run, free health care clinic which operates and functions in order to provide 100% free health care to those in need. It functions at the annual Rainbow Gatherings in the summers, also a non-commercial event. It could not be further from an advertisement. Please go to CALM to check out CALM for yourself
 * I never said it was a commercial adverisement. (I called it a promotional and said that it didn't establish notability.) But Wikipedia is not a place to promote any organizations, whether commercial or not. - Mike Rosoft 21:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * You seemingly know nothing about Rainbow Gatherings. By definition, they (the people who attend) are non-members of the largest non-organization in the world. (Stone)

 * I'm still laughing at the first delete comment. I have to agree, too. Delete. Linuxbeak 22:36, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Rainbow Gathering or keep, assuming they are the main health care providers at a notable event like RGs. Kappa 22:51, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * KEEP. Despite what others have said, these guys are pretty notable. They're crosslinked by a lot of alternate healing web sites, and have been written up in serious newspapers maybe a half-dozen times. It doesn't make sense to merge them with Rainbow Gathering because they do operate away from the annual gathering. I do suspect that they're simply another name for the collective that runs the Rainbow Gathering, but that bunch doesn't have an article to merge with. ---Isaac R 23:24, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Rainbow Gathering unless someone adds information on the group outside of that context, in which case, keep. Jonathunder 01:09, 2005 Apr 23 (UTC)
 * Delete. According to the Declaration of W.A.L.L.A. (Wikipedians against Largely Lame Advertisements) this must not be left standing! Death! Death I say! ...yes I am being sarcastic... Master Thief Garrett 07:28, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Rainbow Gathering, as per Jonathunder. FreplySpang (talk) 18:36, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge per the above. Radiant_* 10:38, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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