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Talk:States and regions of Somalia

map and contents don't match
If Saaxil and Woqooyi Galbeed are separated and listed in alphabetical order, this breaks correspondence with the numbered regions of the map. I have moved Saaxil to 18th in the list, next to Woqooyi Galbeed. Perhaps the map should be updated to reflect the changed list? (unsigned)

I reverted back to when the map and content matched. I'll do a diff any put back what seems worth keeping. 4.250.138.184 18:36, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

About Saaxil
Saaxil was created by "Somaliland" in recently, dividing Waqooyi Galbeed in order to create that region. Saaxil was not one of the official 18 regions when the Somali civil war erupted, so therefore can't be added as "regions of Somalia." If we add that means the other identity known as "Puntland" which also had created new regions that fall under their authority, regions such as "Cayn" and "Haylaan." It is the best to leave the 18 official ones, I believe. Soomaali Nov., 15, 2005

Consistency of regions across Solami articles
We could do with getting the "number of regions" stories straight at Somalia (lists 18, notes there are now 27, Districts of Somalia (lists 19) and Regions of Somalia (lists 27). I appreciate the changes since circa 1990, but we should be capable of discussion the history of region changes. Currently, at best, Districts of Somalia serves to confuse. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:41, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Azania proclaimed
See Template_talk:Somalia_topics. Alinor (talk) 06:44, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Puntland–Somaliland border dispute
So, where does the federal govt come down on the border dispute? Or have they not addressed it? — kwami (talk) 23:03, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * They mainly play a mediating/brokering role, recommending dialogue between both regions. Middayexpress (talk) 23:16, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Who is says there is border disputes? There is border between Somaliland and Somalia, nothing else, international treaties set this border, in the meantime there are lot of untrue of information on this website. Number one, Wikipedia would want to get accurate information on the background, there was two countries that merged 31 Jan 1961 Law No, 5, the two countries formed a Government named Somali Republic from 1960 yo 1969, this government and its legitimacy was removed and dictatorship raised the name of Somalia, which has no legal personality. Unitary government of the Somali Republic collapsed in 1991 and disappeared permanently with no hope to recover. Somali Republic dissolved then in 1991 and Somaliland and Somalia, the two countries dismembered into their original status in 1991. Somaliland is existing Government while Somalia failed since 1991 to present and become biggest UN project in the world. We want Wikipedia to display two Maps of the two countries from 1991 to present date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.189.228.140 (talk) 18:07, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:NOTADVOCATE, user Abdi Aar. Thanks, Middayexpress (talk) 16:34, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

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Central Regions State
Why is there no any information in this article about this proposed regional state in Somalia??? --Murza-Zade (talk) 13:06, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

yo somalilands a federal member state?
Somaliland's a federal member state as the collective adminstrative regions have politicians in both Barlamanka and the Senate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamveryshy22 (talk • contribs) 18:07, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

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Rodolfo Quezada Toruño

Rodolfo Ignacio Quezada Toruño (8 March 1932 – 4 June 2012) was a Guatemalan cardinal of the Catholic Church. He was Archbishop of Guatemala City, having previously served as Bishop of Zacapa y Santo Cristo de Esquipulas from 1980 to 2001. He was elevated to the cardinalate in 2003.

Biography
The oldest of three children, Quezada was born in Guatemala City to René Quezada Alejos and Clemencia Toruño Lizarralde. After studying philosophy at the Seminary of San José in El Salvador, he earned a Licentiate in Theology from the University of Innsbruck in Austria in 1959 and a Doctorate in Canon Law from the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome in 1962. Quezada was ordained to the priesthood by Archbishop Mariano Rossell y Arellano on 21 September 1956. He served as parochial vicar of El Sagrario, rector of Beatas di Belén, university chaplain as well as vice-chancellor of the Archdiocese of Guatemala City. He was the first rector of the National Major Seminary of the Assumption in Guatemala, and named Chaplain of His Holiness on 18 August 1968. He also taught canon law at the Salesian Theological Institute and Rafael Landívar University, and ethics at the University of San Carlos of Guatemala.

On 5 April 1972, Quezada was appointed Auxiliary Bishop of Zacapa and Titular Bishop of Gadiaufala by Pope Paul VI. He received his episcopal consecration on the following 13 May from Archbishop Girolamo Prigione, with Bishops Costantino Luna Pianegonda, O.F.M., and José Pellecer Samayoa serving as co-consecrators, in the metropolitan cathedral of Santiago. He was named Coadjutor Bishop of Zacapa on 11 September 1975, and later succeeded Bishop Luna Pianegonda as Bishop of Zacapa on 16 February 1980. When the Territorial Prelature of Santo Cristo de Esquípulas was merged with his East Guatemalan diocese on 24 June 1986, he became known as Bishop of Zacapa y Santo Cristo de Esquipulas. He served as President of the Guatemalan Episcopal Conference from 1988 to 1992, and again from 2002 to 2006.

Quezada became a national hero by helping to bring to an end the civil war that devastated his country for 36 years. He led two organizations that played important roles in forming a peace agreement: the National Reconciliation Commission, which he headed from 1987 to 1993, and the Assembly of the Civil Society, which he headed from 1994 to 1996. He was also the official conciliator between the government and the guerrillas of the National Revolutionary Unit (1990–1994). His assistant in the peace process, Bishop Juan Gerardi, was murdered in April 1998.

On 19 June 2001, Quezada was promoted to Archbishop of Guatemala City by Pope John Paul II. He was created Cardinal-Priest of San Saturnino in the consistory of 21 October 2003. He was one of the cardinal electors who participated in the 2005 papal conclave that selected Pope Benedict XVI. Within the Roman Curia, he was a member of the Pontifical Council for Culture and the Pontifical Commission for Latin America.

His resignation was accepted by Pope Benedict XVI on 4 October 2010, when he was succeeded as Metropolitan Archbishop of Guatemala by Archbishop Oscar Julio Vian Morales, S.D.B., who until then had been Archbishop of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Altos, Quetzaltenango-Totonicapan, also in Guatemala. Cardinal Quezada was then referred to as Archbishop Emeritus of the see. On 8 March 1992, he reached age 80 and ceased to be a cardinal elector.

Death
Cardinal Quezada Toruño died the morning of 4 June 2012 at a private hospital in Guatemala City due to complications of a bowel obstruction.

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Spelling clarification
I am not going to try to revert or argue about the regional spelling differences in the Pope Benedict article. I was under the belief that Wikipedia policy was to use American spellings. However, it piqued my interest, and the closest I could find was Standardize_spellings. That page has some people who advocate Commonwealth spelling, and some who advocate USAian--no consensus there.

Is there any official Wikipedia policy on spelling variants?
 * Yes, we standardi[s/z]e according to subject. Tony Blair gets normal English spellings; George W. Bush gets US English spellings.  Other articles have either, although if an article is started with one style, subsequent editors are supposed to stick with it.  The Pope isn't American, and if the word "defence" was first spelt like that in the article, there's no reason to change it.  There's enough Coca-Colonization in the world as it is.   — Helpful Dave 22:44, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Guettarda's message
Better luck next time. It did degenerate into quite a food-fight there, didn't it? It's sad that there is this repeated conflict between pro-left and pro-Israel. The whole "enemy of my enemy" thing gets really messed up when there is common cause between progressives and nazis. A very sad state of affairs. I suppose I have it easier - I may disagree with many of the actions of the state of Israel with respect to Palestinian issues, but as the grandson of a Nazi I don't feel I have the right to publicly criticise them. It isn't quite "holocaust guilt" - it's more a matter of, if I accept the legacy of my grandfather, then I accept some measure of responsibility for his actions. Anyway, it seems pointless to get into fights with people like Slim when there are so many more deserving people to get into fights with.

Anyway, keep up the good work! One thing though - you might want to moderate what you say about "private email conversations"...it sounds like you plan to be offesive, and more importantly, it just sounds too much like the tiff between Sam Spade and Felonious Monk. (BTW, feel free to ignore everything I say, I don't really have a clue about anything). Guettarda 14:41, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Replied by e-mail. Helpful Dave 12:34, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi. Didn't get your message.  Could you try sending it directly to guettarda AT gmail.com?  (I don't trust the wikipedia email function, not sure if it works.  Guettarda 13:14, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Damn. And I didn't keep a copy.  I'll have to write it again. : — Helpful Dave 14:23, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

TDC's message
What up with all the changes? Trying to reinvent the wheel? No hard feelings, eh? TDC 18:56, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * No hard feelings. Helpful Dave 19:03, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Anti-Semitism test
Now that you have a new moniker, could I clear something up, about which I've been having an argument? What exactly is your attitude to the claim that there's a group of Jewish editors on Wikipedia who are attempting to enforce a PoV favourable to Judaism, and especially to Zionism and the State of Israel? Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 22:09, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I wrote you a long, well-thought-out, balanced, sincere and factual response, and then I went to your and Slim's talk pages to see the argument. Having seen it, the reasoning behind your question is clear.  It is an exam question.  If I answer "yes", I am supposed to be an anti-Semite; if I answer "no", I am supposed to be in the clear.  Please do not insult my intelligence.  If you want to ask me any questions in good faith, please click here.   Helpful Dave 09:54, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Replied by e-mail. Helpful Dave 12:34, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Mu :) — Helpful Dave 18:24, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Email
Hey Dave, just wondering why you reply to everyone via email. -Kbdank71 16:36, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, I reply to some stuff, especially everyday Wikipedia stuff, on the relevant page, but off-topic conversations — on subjects such as what my personal politics are — don't belong here, especially as some editors feel the need to (mis)quote others' personal opinions out of context for their own anti-wiki, bad-faith purposes. I hope that helps.    :) — Helpful Dave 18:03, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Sure did, thanks for the explanation! -Kbdank71 18:13, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bissap
Hi Dave - I thought your additions about Bissap at Hibiscus made the plant worthy of a page to itself, so I've moved them to Bissap (and expanded with some other info I found) - MPF 11:04, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah OK. Pity I finished my last bottle of bissap syrup, so I can't take a photo of it.  :) — Helpful Dave 11:27, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pipil — Spanish translation.
Since you are a primary editor on Spanish verbs - how about a little help with a translation issue. The original editor on Pipil got his information from a web-site in El Salvador. His translation was limited and questionable. I downloaded the text and another Wiki gave us a translation. I got another one in the real world. Would you look over the talk page and give us your opinion? The major issue now is the meaning of a noun Tala -- a mispelling/another name for Tula or a Toltec subgroup or lineage? And the issue of whether Teotihucan was Toltec. But that's hardly a translation question. Thanks. WBardwin 02:14, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * As far as I can see, you seem to have sorted out the confusion over there, and you don't need me to translate anything. As for Tala/Tula/Toltec, etc., I must admin I know nothing about all that.   :) — Helpful Dave 12:48, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Gelato
Aloha. I can't see any reason to merge gelato into ice cream. --Viriditas | Talk 21:19, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * It's because it's just ice cream. Gelato is just used dialectally to refer to some types of ice cream.  All the info at Gelato would fit in comfortably at Ice cream.   :) — Helpful Dave 21:23, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * While we both agree that gelato is a variety of frozen dessert, by definition it is quite different than ice cream (both in in the amount of milk fat—2–8 percent instead of 10 to 30 found in ice cream, and in the production—Unlike ice cream, Gelato machinery whips almost no air into the gelato). Many of these varieties have their own page (presumably to cut down on article bloat), such as ice milk, frozen custard, sherbet, Pop kulfi, sorbet, and others. I think your argument is similar to merging Ford Mustang with Ford; there's no reason to do it, and smaller articles are easier to read.  It would be nice to review some policy pages on this topic. --Viriditas  | Talk 01:13, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You're right
Mperel redirects to MPerel. The user signed as Mperel, which I then copy and pasted the contibution address before (as I couldn't figure out a non-manual way to see someone's contibs), and got 3 edits. His MPerel account has way more. I look like a fool now :P--    Revolutionary Left   |  Che y Marijuana 21:32, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Everyone slips up sometimes.  :) — Helpful Dave 21:48, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Vote
You wrote:
 * I'd like to urge you to reconsider your vote on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anti-globalization and Anti-Semitism, as it is based on a misconception. Censorship is not the issue. The article is a POV fork, and needs to be re-merged into the Anti-globalization article. :) — Helpful Dave 18:57, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

My vote stands. I found the arguments for deletion unconvincing. My review of the article found it to be quite fair. I'm not sure what you hoped to accomplish by this message, or how many others you have contacted. I don't think this sort of politicking is appropriate. You are entitled to your opinion, and if the majority agree the article will be deleted. Please do not attempt to foist your views on me.--Briangotts 15:38, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * You have a funny idea of "foisting" and "politicking". I politely and appropriately asked you to reconsider your vote because your comment led me to believe that you were not supporting the existence of the article out of anti-Left ideological commitment (in which case I wouldn't have bothered) but rather out of the misconception that the content of the article was to be deleted and thus censored.  What I hoped to accomplish by the message was (surprise, surprise) that you would reconsider your vote.  The fact that that seems incomprehensible to you suggests that you don't understand that one's stance can change when flaws in it are pointed out, which is sad.  Anyway, welcome to Wikipedia.  I hope you will be a valuable contributor.  If you require any further information, just e-mail me.  :) — Helpful Dave 15:59, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Copyrights, branded products
I've been trying hard to find out whether photographs taken of branded products are property of the photographer, or if the copyrighted brand's company has some rights. I'd like to take pictures of different kinds of tea like yours on the Twinings page, but I don't know the law here. I'd do just what you did, basically. Even if you don't know, if you know whom to ask I would be delighted. It seems fine to me, but I'd like something a little more authoratative than that. --Zantastik 08:50, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm sure it's fine. We're not putting their trademark on something of ours; it's still on their product.  If the company ever intervened, it would be to give us money for the advertising, not to sue us!  If you're still not sure, discuss it on Wikipedia talk:Copyrights.   :) — Helpful Dave 10:45, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hewwo --Chammy Koala 18:13, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for supporting my nomination on RfA, it failed because of Wikipedia's minority rule system, although I thought 21/8 support was sufficient. It was also cut short by 12 hours. But your vote of confidence is greatly appreciated, now let's build an encyclopedia! --Bjarki 13:56, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * 72% support would be enough if you were a right-wing American. Oh well.  Just try again in a couple of months.   — Helpful Dave 14:16, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What does that mean Helpful Dave? UDoN't!wAn* 22:03, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Neruda
Howzitgoing? Just now someone added a substantial amount of material to Pablo Neruda wholly to emphasize his Stalinist sympathies, including a long quote from his ode to Stalin, which is not considered one of his best works. I was wondering whether you'd care to take a look. I have rather a lot on my plate at the moment and I am not sure when I'll be able to devote to it the attention it deserves. Saludos -- Viajero 21:29, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

redirecting articles to Towns in Victoria, Australia
You have redirected a number of articles to Towns in Victoria, Australia. My understanding is that the articles in question had enough information in them to justify their existence and in some cases even more. For example | the immediate past revision of Tallangatta an article trashed by the redirect.

Could you please explain why you made these changes and under what policy. I would rather be contributing content to the Wikipedia than reverting such changes.

If you wish to discuss the policy about Australian Geography articles, perhaps you could contribute to the discussion on the Australian Wikipedians noticeboard.

As per your contact policy, I have emailed you. Regards --AYArktos 22:37, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * No need to e-mail me. But since I saw your e-mail first, I replied to it.  Talk to my girlfriend about it.   — Helpful Dave 22:53, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Agreed, please refrain from redirecting or tagging my Traralgon (or any other Victorian town) articles for merging. Your towns in Victoria should be in list format. Its unworkable as it is. Thanks. Andypasto 08:21, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Please don't do that again. If you want to redirect these articles, either discuss it or put them on WP:VFD. If you blank them en masse again, you'll be blocked for vandalism. Ambi 11:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Vfd is not to be clogged up with discussion about redirects. No blanking was done.  I won't be blocked for vandalism.  You must not make threats.   — Helpful Dave 12:29, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Your vandalism on Education, education, education
Please note I have reported your vandalism to the authorities and trust appropriate action shall be taken against you UDoN't!wAn* 22:58, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * What?  — Helpful Dave 23:34, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Your explanation is unsatisfactory, if you thought the slogan merited an article, you would have written one. UDoN't!wAn* 00:36, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I believe you have acted most improperly and that your denials win no friends. UDoN't!wAn* 01:16, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Come on. This account is only a few hours old.  Whose sockpuppet are you?  You sound like TDC.  I appreciate the joke, but let's just get back to building an encyclopaedia.   — Helpful Dave 01:26, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks Helpful Dave! Im glad someone agrees that the situation could have been handled better. Maybe you could comment on the article talk? SV|t|add 03:55, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Put up anti-semite cartoons on Wikipedia again and I promise you I will report you to the responsible Jewish groups, who will investigate who you are and have you prosecuted for ravial vilification. First and last warning, racist. Chunkyhoyo 12:26, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Or is it ravist? ;)   — Helpful Dave 13:33, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Prussian Holocaust
If you delete good faith edits put on VfDs and other closed pages, you should record the fact on the Talk page. --- Charles Stewart 08:03, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a possibly good suggestion, if such a thing should ever happen.  — Helpful Dave 08:35, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Don;t be coy. Jesusfreund's edit was made in good faith. --- Charles Stewart 08:37, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * No it wasn't.  — Helpful Dave 08:44, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[Charles Stewart] - (not) Helpful Dave's main purpose on Wikipedia is to be a Jewish propagandist, pure and simple, nothing else. It's clear as day to anyone that reviews him. Don't even bother with people of his ilk, ignore them, although fighting the inclusion of propaganda on Wikipedia is a worthy endeavour. User:69.217.194.44
 * Please don't troll on my talk page. You probably know that I am atheist, am not of Jewish origin, oppose Zionism and many policies of the State of Israel, and even get accused of being anti-Semitic for these very stances.  Any more nonsense of yours like this will simply be deleted in the future.   — Helpful Dave 19:36, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:In pectore

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Wasn't Pope Leo X also originally named cardinal in pectore? 4 Mar 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.132.146.220 (talk) 08:47, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * He was not. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 20:12, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Comment
Can someone explain why a Pope would do this? I don't understand what good a Cardinal can do if nobody knows he's a Cardinal. Thanks! FreplySpang (talk) 14:44, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This would be done if the place this cardinal was going to work in was a dangerous environment for a Catholic. Such as China, where Catholics (and Christians in general) are not formally tolerated, and the presence of a Cardinal would at least lead to him getting imprisoned (and probably shot). It does say this in the article.

Some of the catholics in the area would know that a secret cardinal had been appointed, although obviously secrecy would be vital, and they would very probably not know his identity.

The cardinal would also then be able to communicate back to the Vatican on the situation for Catholics in that country, and allow the church to work with an increased knowledge on improving tolerance of Catholicism - and Christianity in general - in that country.

Proto 10:21, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Why was the Archbishop of Riga created in pectore in 1998? Has the Latvian government been persecuting Catholics? john k 16:08, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

As it is not quite clear:

Would *some* in pectore Cardinals know that they have been appointed?

Have there been any cases of problems arising because it is known to the authorities that there is an in pectore cardinal but not who he is?

For those who are into such things, and with a suitable background knowledge, this could provide a useful starting point for some speculative fiction.

Jackiespeel 14:16, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

One other unpublished 20th-century cardinal
Currently, the article says that the only 20th-century case of expired "in pectore" appointment was that of the 3 cardinals named as such in 1960. The FIU cardinals site says that there were 2 cardinals named "in pectore" in 1916 and only one (Adolf Bertram) was eventually published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 (talk) 19:50, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

I'll proceed with the expired in-pectore appointment (had been made 1916 by Benedict XV). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 (talk) 16:13, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

 * Yes. Added now. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 20:25, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Strange
Indeed the article does not make clear if an in pectore cardinal himself is notified, however secretly, that he has been made a cardinal. It is obvious that such appointments are made "in the eyes of God", therefore secular notification is unnecessary per se; still I would imagine that even He would not choose to ignore common courtesies. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.1.225.95 (talk) 15:26, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Pope Martin V
I don't know much about the history of this stuff, but on the article Papal conclave, 1431 it says that Pope Martin V initiated the custom of creating cardinals without published their name right away, and links here. But in this article it says Pope Paul III was the first to initiate this custom. Someone who knows more about this stuff should probably fix this. Wgunther (talk) 02:05, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

 * Yes. Miranda doesn't think Martin V made in pectore appointments because he shared the information (he says they were "known to the other cardinals", but there's a good source that calls Martin's appointments in pectore. Martin certainly didn't publish them initially and did publish them later, which seems just what we'd expect for in pectore appointments. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 20:28, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

A question
The article doesn't make it clear how the process of creating "in pectore" cardinals occurs. Does the Pope, at a consistory, declare "I wish to create x amount of cardinals" (or some other phrase) without disclosing the name(s) of the cardinal(s) created, revealing them at a later date? 101090ABC (talk) 13:08, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

 * That's exactly what happens. See this New York Times report. "Pope John Paul II named 14 new cardinals today, including his new Vatican Secretary of State. The Pope said he had chosen a 15th cardinal “in pectore” — in his heart — and there was speculation that the unidentified cardinal was from a Communist country." Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 20:38, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Term used at 2015's Wikimania
See Wikipedia Signpost/2015-07-22/Wikimanía report (as of 21:42, 24 July 2015): "[Jimbo] Wales' announcement [at Wikimanía 2015] of Wikipedian of the year was made in pectore, meaning that he did not reveal the name at this time because doing so has the potential to bring reprisal or harm to the recipient."

davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  23:06, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

www.catholic-hierarchy.org appears to state Pope Leo X Giovanni de’ Medici was Elevated to Cardinal "In Pectore" 9 Mar 1489
www.catholic-hierarchy.org appears to state Pope Leo X Giovanni de’ Medici was Elevated to Cardinal "In Pectore" 9 Mar 1489 If true, this page should be upated. http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bdeme.html Pope Leo X Giovanni de’ Medici

9 Mar 1489	13.2	Elevated to Cardinal	In Pectore 23 Mar 1489	13.2	Appointed	Cardinal-Deacon of Santa Maria in Domnica 26 Mar 1492	16.2	Elevated to Cardinal 9 Mar 1513	37.2	Elected	Pope (Roma {Rome}, Italy)

http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/event/cs1492.html Pope Pius III (Francesco Todeschini-Piccolomini) Consistory - 26 March 1492 Published (Previously a Cardinal In Pectore): Giovanni de’ Medici http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/event/cs1492.html

http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/event/cs1489.html Consistory - 9 March 1489 Pope: Innocent VIII (Giovanni Battista Cibo) Created Cardinal: Lorenzo Cibo de’ Mari †, Archbishop of Benevento, Italy Ardicino della Porta (Jr.) †, Bishop of Aleria, France Antonio Gentile Pallavicini †, Bishop of Orense, Spain André d’Espinay †, Archbishop of Bordeaux, France Pierre d’Aubusson, O.S.Io.Hieros. †, Grand Master of Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St John of Jerusalem Maffeo Gherardi, O.S.B. †, Patriarch of Venezia {Venice}, Italy Giovanni de’ Medici † Federico Sanseverino †, Administrator of Maillezais, France

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Galapagos hawk

The Galápagos hawk (Buteo galapagoensis) is a large hawk endemic to most of the Galápagos Islands.

Description
The Galapágos hawk is similar in size to the red-tailed hawk (Buteo jamaicensis) and the Swainson's hawk (Buteo swainsoni) of North America, but the size is variable across the islands as is recorded for many animals native to the Galapágos. They appear to be somewhat more heavily built than those well-known mainland species, and going on average weights, this species is the second heaviest Buteo in the Americas, behind only the ferruginous hawk. The Galapágos hawk can range from 45 to 58 cm in length from beak to tail with a wingspan of 116 to 140 cm. The smallest hawk sizes recorded are on Marchena Island, where males average 844 g and females average 1223 g. Intermediate in size are the hawks of Santiago Island, on which males weigh an average of 963 g while females average 1295 g. The largest known are the hawks on Española Island, which are amongst the largest Buteo known anywhere, with males averaging 1137 g and females averaging 1578 g. The adult hawk has various coloring within the species.

The adult Galapagos hawk is generally a sooty brownish-black color; the crown being slightly blacker than the back. Its feathers of the mantle are partially edged with paler brown, grey, or buff, with their white bases showing to some extent. Their tail coverts are also barred with white. The tail itself is silvery grey above, with about ten narrow black bars; below it is quite pale. The wing feathers are paler on inner webs, barred with white. Below it has indistinct rufous edges to the feathers of the flanks and lower abdomen. The under-tail coverts are barred with white. Under-wing coverts are black, contrasting with the pale bases of the wing quills. The eyes are brown, the beak greyish black, paler at its base which is known as the 'cere', legs, and feet are yellow. The male hawk is smaller than the female hawk, as with many birds of prey. The young hawks however appear quite different from the adults in that they are well camouflaged with an overall brown appearance with varying amounts of striping below and paler mottling above. Their eyes are light grey-brown, and the beak is black, blue-grey at its base. The cere is grey-green, the feet pale yellow-green. When the immature plumage becomes badly worn, the pale areas become almost white.

The Galapágos hawk has broad wings and a broad tail. It is an apex predator and possesses excellent vision. Their young appear different from adults because they are darker and have camouflage which aids them in remaining protected from potential predators until they are fully grown.

Habitat and diet
This hawk lives mainly on insects such as locusts and giant centipedes, as well as racer snakes (Alsophis spp.), lava lizards (Microlophus albemarlensis), and both native and introduced species of rodents, including Galápagos rice rats (Aegialomys galapagoensis), house mice (Mus musculus), and black rats (Rattus rattus). It is not uncommon for it to take marine iguanas (Amblyrhynchus cristatus). Most of the marine iguana prey are mainly hatchlings and juveniles but occasionally adults, especially nesting females. The Galapagos hawk can kill relatively large individuals, which can weigh at least equal to the hawk's own weight or even heavier. Hatchlings of tortoise, sea turtle, and land iguanas are additionally taken, as well as young of Galápagos sea lions, feral pigs, and goats. Arboreal prey include Galapagos Doves (Zenaida galapagoensis), Galapagos Mockingbirds (Mimus parvulus), and Darwin's finches (Geospiza spp. & Camarhynchus spp.), from their egg to full-grown adults. This predator has also been observed to take seabirds such as Audubon's Shearwaters (Puffinus lherminieri), and eggs and nestlings of swallow-tailed gulls (Creagrus furcatus). Regular predation on blue-footed booby (Sula nebouxii) nestlings, which can weigh around 1280g, has been reported. Aside from live prey, carrions are additionally taken, from dead seals to fish scraps.

Hunting in groups of two or three, the hawks soar at a height of 50 to 200 m in the sky. When one of the birds spots prey or a rotting carcass, they signal to the other members. The dominant hawk of the group feeds from the prey until it is satisfied, as the other hawks in the family group submissively wait their turn to feed. It prefers to perch on a lava outcrop or high branch when hunting, yet it also spends some of its time on the ground.

Fearless of man, the young especially being quite curious, often wandering around human camps and scavenging for scraps of food. In 1845, Charles Darwin wrote:

"A gun is here almost superfluous; for with the muzzle I pushed a hawk out of the branch of a tree..."

Behavior and breeding
Because the seasons of the island are unchanging due to the close proximity of the equator, there is no regular mating season. Mating occurs a few times a day on a nearby perch or in flight. It begins when males make fake attacks on the female from behind by dive-bombing her, and then the male follows the female as she descends to the trees below. While males tend to be monogamous, the females will occasionally mate with up to seven different males during the mating season. Throughout the entire nesting period, the female and all of her males take turns protecting the nest, incubating the eggs, and even participating in the feeding with no apparent dominance order. Nests are built low in trees, on lava ledges, or even on the ground at times. Used for many years and nesting periods, they become quite large, sometimes even four feet in diameter. Stick structures are lined with grass, bark, clumps of leaves, or other available soft materials.

The mating pair is together for the majority of the time at the prime of the egg-laying season and usually stays close to the nesting site. The nest is maintained constantly with fresh, green twigs. Usually, one to three green-white colored eggs are laid, though clutches with 3 eggs are unusual. Usually, only one youngster is reared from each nest, but polyandrous groups are more successful than monogamous pairs, though each polyandrous male produces fewer young per year than monogamous males. Young hawks leave the nest around 50–60 days after hatching. Juvenile hawks will not enter the territorial breeding areas until they reach the age of three, becoming sexually mature.

Voice
The call of the Galapágos hawk is a series of short screams similar to the call of the red-shouldered hawk that has been described as a “keer, keeu,” or an inflected “kwee”. Especially noisy during mating season, their call softens to a “kilp, kilp, kilp”.

Status
Although the exact number of these birds is unknown, there are believed to be only around 150 mating pairs in existence today. This statistic has improved slightly from past years, but it is far from the abundance they were found in on all the islands of Galápagos when they were discovered. Due to human disturbance to their natural habitat, a dwindling food supply because of new predators introduced to the islands, and persecution by humans, they are now extinct on the islands of Baltra, Daphne Major, Floreana, San Cristóbal, and North Seymour.

Evolution
The study of mtDNA haplotypes of the Galapágos hawk and its closest relative, Swainson's hawk, indicates that the former's ancestors colonized the islands approximately 300,000 years ago, making the birds the most recent native species arrival known. By contrast, Darwin's finches are estimated to have arrived some 2–3 million years ago.

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Spinoff
I propose that Ja Rule be listed as a spinoff of Irv Gotti. I've seen other articles like Bobby Valentino and Estelle be listed as spinoffs of Ludacris and John Legend, so Ja Rule should be a spinoff of Irv Gotti. JuanBoss105 (talk) 22:13, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I had a look at Template:Infobox musical artist, and it says that the parameter is only used when referring to groups, not solo artists. Describing a solo artist as a spinoff of another solo artist doesn't make sense to me. Throast  { { ping }} me! (talk | contribs) 22:16, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

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East Budleigh

East Budleigh is a small village in East Devon, England. The villages of Yettington, Colaton Raleigh, and Otterton lie to the west, north and east of East Budleigh, with the seaside town of Budleigh Salterton about two miles south. Until the River Otter to the east silted up, the village was a market town and port; it was still being used by ships in the 15th century, according to John Leland.

Sir Walter Raleigh was born in nearby Hayes Barton in c.1552, and his parents are buried in All Saints churchyard in the village. The 14th-century church contains attractive pew ends including one bearing the Raleigh coat of arms.

In 2006 a life-size bronze statue of Raleigh by sculptor Vivien Mallock was unveiled by the Duke of Kent and is positioned at the top of the village close to the church. The cost of £30,000 was met by British American Tobacco, and was unveiled in the week when new anti-smoking laws came into effect in England and Wales.

Governor Roger Conant, founder of Salem, Massachusetts and the first governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, was born in East Budleigh in 1592 to Richard Conant.

East Budleigh had a railway station that was situated between the village and Otterton, which was closed in 1967.

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Custom House

Custom House or Customs House may refer to:

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Welcome to the Wikipedia
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Talk:National Democratic Party of Germany

Requested move 21 January 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 12:55, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

National Democratic Party of Germany → The Homeland (Germany) – The party has rebranded Karma1998 (talk) 20:41, 21 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:26, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Comment It does not matter what the party calls itself, WP:COMMONNAME applies. Do we have any data/indicators that shows The Homeland/Die Heimat is currently more used than NPD/NDP? I do not think we should change the article title solely because some fascists realized they created a political brand so unbelievably toxic that the only path forward was to rebrand . Curbon7 (talk) 01:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * From a GNews search for "Die Heimat" with a date range of July 2023 to January 2024, I found a significant number of sources that only refer to Die Heimat in relation to the NPD. For example, Der Spiegel writes and, while the Federal Constitutional Court also uses . Curbon7 (talk) 01:07, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support I would say it's appropriate to change the articles name to The Homeland(Germany), even the German article of the political party has updated it to its factual name. Updating the name of the party would also make it easier to edit articles because you don't have to choose between "The Homeland" and "NPD". I don't think not changing the name because of a personnel opinion that somehow fascists thought that the old brand of the party was toxic... They are neo-Nazis, there political brand is going to be toxic no mater what. I don't think a name change is going to change the fact that they are toxic imbeciles. Updating the name would be a factual change. Zyxrq (talk) 18:52, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No renaming and especially no translation into "Die Heimat". Agree with Curbon7. As of today, Die Heimat is still referred to as "the former NPD" in tagesschau, German news articles or by the Bundesverfassungsgericht. The party is not known as "The Homeland". NYT today only mentioned "Die Heimat, which means the Homeland...". Cannot follow reasoning of ease of editing by Zyxrq.--Wuerzele (talk) 10:45, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose per above. Certainly do not translate. No evidence so far that this is seen in its (pretty vague) English translation. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:16, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * This is a list of three sources that refer to "Die Heimat" as The Homeland As a translation. The list includes Der Spiegel, The BBC and The New York Times. To say the party isn't known as the Homeland in anyway or the translation is somehow "vague" is relatively incorrect. [][] [] Zyxrq (talk) 16:57, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, I can't see the NYT article, but the BBC and Der Spiegel both actually refer to it as Die Heimat with Homeland in brackets. As I said, it doesn't need translating. We don't slavishly translate foreign names into English for the sake of it. Even as a native English speaker, I've never understood the obsession among some editors with doing so and WP:UE doesn't mandate it. -- Necrothesp (talk) 17:08, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I do understand what your trying to say, but there aren't any real reasons not to rename the article to "The Homeland", besides some notion that somehow its not the correct English word for Die Heimat. Its the correct name and many sources say it as the translation. at this point if we don't rename the article were just keeping the name 'National Democratic Party of Germany' for the sake of it. If we do keep the name "National Democratic Party of Germany", it would be factually incorrect. if we change it to Die Heimat its correct, but it would make it more difficult for English speakers to find the Wikipedia article. If we change the article name to "The Homeland" its Factually correct and its easier to actually find the article. It also causes less confusion on what the name of the party actually is. Naturally If the name of the article changes you will see sources start referring to Die Heimat as just The homeland. This isn't about "slavishly translate foreign names into English for the sake of it", its about being factually correct in the article. We don't call the National Socialist German Workers' Party aka the Nazi party by its original name, The German Workers' Party or by its German translation "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei". So why should we be doing that with this Wikipedia article. Zyxrq (talk) 18:24, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Because we use WP:COMMONNAME in English-language sources. Is that The Homeland? Does anyone call it that? Not that I can see. They call it Die Heimat or by its old name. Putting its translation in brackets afterwards doesn't mean that's the common name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * If that's the case shouldn't we change the name of the article to "Die Heimat", or something like "Die Heimat(NPD)". Zyxrq (talk) 18:59, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The latter, no. The former, that's what this debate is about. Has the name been commonly adopted yet? -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:57, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * This is another source from CNN referring to Die Heimat as The Homeland [] Zyxrq (talk) 18:38, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment - I think that the current status quo, having "The Homeland" as the first name in the lead sentence and at the top of the infobox despite the article's name remaining NPD is silly, (though I understand why.) Nevertheless, at least for now, it's hard to deny that NPD remains the WP:COMMONNAME. Furthermore, it's not the responsibility of Wikipedia to back up the rebranding efforts of neo-nazi parties. This being said, I would say that - either now or at a later date - it does probably make sense to rename the article "The Homeland (Germany)" or even "The Homeland (German Neo-Nazi party)". But it may not yet be time. Garnet Moss (talk) 08:26, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

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State funding has been ruled to be withdrawn
Not au fait with German politics, so wouldn't want to add it myself, but search this story: German court ban on state funding for Heimat seen as model for AfD - BBC News Phil of rel (talk) 18:36, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 20 June 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. There were several supports to move the article to its title in English as "The Homeland" or similar titles, though the supporters did not provide much evidence that the WP:COMMONAME had changed despite a new name having been chosen for the party, and some did not provide policy or guideline based arguments. Although there were more numerical supports than opposes (4 support and 3 opposed), the opposition provided sources that gave the indication that the new names for the party had weak acceptance and that the common name had not changed. (closed by non-admin page mover)  The Night Watch     (talk)   22:22, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

National Democratic Party of Germany → Die Heimat (political party) – When a party changes its name, it seems more than natural to rename the page too. Current English-language sources on the party refer to it by its new original name, Die Heimat, which should therefore be the title of the page. It doesn't seem sensible to me to keep a name that has been abandoned for a year now. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 13:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

 * Support but in english
 * National Democratic Party of Germany → The Homeland (Germany) Gooduserdude (talk) 19:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

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 * Oppose Still see no change from the previous RMs; the party – which has been receiving almost no news coverage anymore – still seems to be referred to in relation to its former name in an "X formerly known as Twitter" way, such as in  or . Curbon7 (talk) 21:36, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * No argument has been provided that the WP:COMMONNAME has changed, so I think helping a neo-Nazi organization's attempt to rebrand is a bad idea. An alternative is a split pre- and post-name change, but I don't really think that'd work. Curbon7 (talk) 21:24, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Still no evidence has been provided that the common name in English has changed, just a lot of vague hand-waving. Curbon7 (talk) 18:47, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Also support but in English. As Scia Della Cometa said, we should use The Homeland (Germany). The fact that the article currently calls the party the "National Democratic Party of Germany" makes no sense and is clearly outdated, misleading and confusing to readers. Helper201 (talk) 17:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * support. I still stand by what I said the last time we had this discussion.
 * we should change it to something like "The Homeland (German political party)" Zyxrq (talk) 17:44, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Also support but in English. It's about time especially now that there is a separate party in Germany registered as the "National Democratic Party of Germany". The common name in German has been widely adopted even to the point of the new colour being used, German Wikipedia changed it ages ago as well. The Homeland (Germany) seems like the best name for the article in my opinion. JonahF (talk) 11:49, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose to "Die Heimat" per Curbon7, Strong oppose to English title ("The Homeland"). The first few news results in a web search show the party being called "former NPD", indicating weak acceptance of the new name and no change to the COMMONNAME despite a change to the OFFICIALNAME (which we don't care about when discussing article titles): . Those same sources, especially the last two BBC articles, show that the English translation is merely explanatory and not the common name, so if we move to an updated title, it should be the German one. Toadspike   [Talk]  15:51, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose per discussion of six months ago. But if moved, certainly should not be moved to the English translation. No evidence at all that this is the common name. We don't translate foreign names for the sake of it. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * neutral per WP:USEENGLISH, but prefer the current title for clarity. —usernamekiran (talk) 22:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC)