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How this former NBA player promotes abstinence
"If you're a sports fan, you'll recognize "Iron Man" A.C. Green, the NBA star who's played in more consecutive basketball games than any other player. But this past season, A.C. hung up his jersey to focus his attention on his other passion: promoting abstinence until marriage to kids across the U.S. Through his youth leadership camps, thriving foundation (A.C. Green Youth Foundation, Inc.), and school curriculum that teach abstinence, A.C. preaches what he practices—despite celebrity peer pressure, this never-married man has remained a virgin. But this past year, A.C. found time to meet the right woman, pop the question, and start planning a wedding for this spring. Until then, A.C. splits his time between Phoenix, Portland, and L.A., where he runs his camps and continues to talk about abstinence before marriage. TCW caught up with A.C. to find out why he's so fired up about youth. What's your biggest goal for your campers? To help kids develop healthy self-esteem and make wise decisions about their future. We play basketball in the morning, then I take the campers, mostly inner-city kids ages 9 to 15, on field trips to local businesses to see all the job possibilities that exist. I want these kids to see they don't have to be an entertainer or athlete to "make it" in society. I also stress the importance of remaining abstinent until they get married. Where did you get your passion for kids to remain sexually pure? I have 11 nieces and nephews ages 3 to 22. As a Christian, I didn't like the "safe sex" message they got in public school. So instead of complaining about it, I decided to do something about it. I started by telling people about my choice to obey God's Word and remain a virgin until I get married. Second, I developed the camps and school curriculum that both teach abstinence. So how do you resist sexual temptation? I make God my number-one priority. But while I stay focused on God—in his Word and in prayer—I also have a supporting cast to help me remain pure. Others help hold you accountable; they prop you up when you feel as if you're falling into the temptation. I also learned the importance of loving and respecting myself first, so I'll make good choices regarding my future and my career. My decision to stay pure for my wedding is one of the best choices I can make for my marriage. How do you continue to make wise choices in all areas of your life? It's all about perspective. I try to remember that this life isn't all about me, it's about what God wants to do through me in his timing. My job is to be obedient, to be willing to be used by God. The rest is in his hands! I don't expect to make perfect decisions or change a lot of people on my own. But coupled with the Holy Spirit, anything and everything are possible." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.47.110.172 (talk • contribs).

Addition
I added Green's High School —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Isaacjoe (talk • contribs).

"Pro-life celebrity?"
While I suspect that A.C. Green is probably pro-life, no where in the article is this mentioned.

Furthermore, the "Pro-Life celebrities" page says: "Celebrities, including actors, and other people of note, who have expressed a belief in the anti-abortion or pro-life ethic, and whose positions are noted in their biographies" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.67.92 (talk • contribs)

This article needs an overhaul
It's loaded with opinion and NPOV, the whole thing is one long rambling paragraph, and most important, it cites no sources for its claims. wikipediatrix 23:20, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Why is there a space in "A.C."?
His first name is A.C., same as his father. It doesn't stand for anything else, and there is no middle name, so there is no space. http://www.acgreen.com/acgreen/index.html --Edgewise (talk) 11:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Teams Played for
Do not know how the following revision... 13:00, 6 February 2009 99.238.101.39 Did not get caught earlier but A.C. Green did not play for the Toronto Raptors. --Bazzledorf (talk) 00:06, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

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Check what follows "american" in the info box's nationality: is that acceptable? --Alextrade2404 (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

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Happy Trails

Happy Trails may refer to:
 * Happy Trails (album), a 1968 album by Quicksilver Messenger Service
 * "Happy Trails" (song), the theme song of The Roy Rogers Show
 * Happy Trails (video game), a 1983 video game by Activision
 * Happy Trails!, the eighth published collection of Bloom County cartoons, by Berke Breathed

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Skyscraper (play)

Skyscraper is the first full-length play by David Auburn. It premiered Off-Broadway in 1997. It is a serious comedy about the deterioration of ingenuity and art.

Production
Skyscraper ran Off-Broadway at Greenwich House from September 20, 1997 through October 26, 1997. The play was produced by The Araca Group. Directed by Michael Rego, the cast featured John Wylie (Louis), Marianne Hagan (Vivian), Jeffrey Donovan, Nina Landey, Andrew Sgroi and Jenna Stern. The play was written during Auburn's time as a Juilliard Fellow and was re-worked during his Juilliard residency in 1993-95; the play had a workshop presentation at the Berkshire Theatre Festival (Massachusetts).

The play takes place in Chicago, Illinois, where several people are attempting to save an historic skyscraper from being demolished.

Critical reception
The CurtainUp reviewer wrote: "At its comedic best 'Skyscraper' gently satirizes the less enlightened city planners' tendency to tear down edifices of historic and artistic significance... The play has too many serious undertones to quite fit its advance billing as a romantic comedy. A more accurate description would be serio-comedy with a generous dash of reality-based fantasy."

Peter Marks, in his review for The New York Times, wrote: " Skyscraper, in fact, fairly teems with intriguing notions. But none of them, ultimately, amount to much. Mr. Auburn has expended all of his energy on the structure of Skyscraper without paying enough attention to the people who inhabit it. As a result, the play, under the direction of Michael Rego, is as rigorous -- and emotionally arid -- as a master's thesis."

The Variety reviewer wrote: " Skyscraper at first appears to be a zany romantic comedy but soon head[s] down a dark avenue of memory and fantasy. Playwright David Auburn skillfully introduces an oddly balanced group of characters whose lives merge on the rooftop of an old Chicago building marked for demolition. With a teasing and unpredictable narrative, the well-tuned ensemble carries the crisp humor through a deepening mystery."

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Rogue Trooper (board game)

Rogue Trooper is the name of a British board wargame based on the 2000 AD comic strip of the same name. It was released in 1987 and published by Games Workshop.

Gameplay
In the comic, genetically created soldiers (Genetic Infantryman) are battling on Nu-Earth in the far future on the side of the Southers, a war without rules and where chemical and biological weapons are used with such frequency that the atmosphere is lethal. At the Quartz Zone Massacre, the enemy Norts - with the help of a treacherous Souther - launched an attack that massacred all but one of the Genetic Infantrymen. He became Rogue Trooper and set out to hunt down the traitor on his own side who helped mastermind the massacre.

Although there was only one surviving Genetic Infantryman in the comic, the boardgame is for several players and thus takes a bit of artistic liberty and declares there were actually several survivors. The opposing players control one Rogue Trooper each and must hunt down the traitor across the devastated wastes of Nu-Earth. The winner is the one who finds and kills the traitor.

It employed a board separated into hex map areas representing different parts of Nu-Earth. Plastic miniatures represent the GIs and a card-system is employed for revealing who or what lay in each of the areas as the players explore the planet.

Reception
Jervis Johnson reviewed Rogue Trooper for White Dwarf #89, and stated that "it's fun, can be played to a finish in 2-3 hours and all the players are involved right up to the end. C'mon Gunnar, we've got a traitor to find..."

Reviews

 * Casus Belli #40 (Oct 1987)

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Kia Carnival

The Kia Carnival (기아 카니발) is a minivan manufactured by Kia since 1998. It is marketed globally under various nameplates, prominently as the Kia Sedona.

The first generation Carnival was introduced in January 1998, and was marketed in a single, short wheelbase version. Second generation models were marketed (2006–2014) in short and long wheelbase variants. A rebadged variant of the second generation was offered in North America as the Hyundai Entourage (2007–2009). Beginning in 2010, the second generation model received updated equipment, including Kia's corporate Tiger Nose grille, as introduced by its then new design chief, Peter Schreyer. Kia introduced its third generation minivan in 2014, solely in a long wheelbase format. The fourth generation was introduced in 2020, when Kia also began using the Carnival nameplate worldwide.

First generation (KV-II; 1998)
The first generation model was manufactured and marketed differently for specific regions, including under a joint venture in the Chinese market with Dongfeng Yueda Kia, as well as the Naza Ria in Malaysia.

In Indonesia and the Philippines, both Carnival/Sedona names were used. Initially introduced as the Carnival in 2001, from 2003 onwards, it was renamed as the Sedona.

Australia
In Australia, the Kia Carnival went on sale in 1999, with a standard 5-speed manual and 2.5 L V6 producing 177 hp (132 kW). A 4-speed automatic was optional. In 2001, it outsold the Toyota Tarago, becoming the top-selling minivan in the country. It was a sales leader again in 2004 and 2005 when sales peaked at 5,259 units.

Europe
In Europe, the first generation was available only with Rover's 2.5 L KV6 engine 24V petrol with 163 PS and Euro 2 standard emission level and the 2.9 L turbo-diesel engine with 126 PS. From 2001, Kia Motors introduced the 2.5 L KV6 Euro 3 with 150 PS and the 2.9 L CRDi common rail diesel engine with 144 PS.

North America
In North America, the Sedona came equipped with a 3.5 L Hyundai V6 engine making 195 hp (145 kW) and a 4-speed (later 5-speed) automatic transmission. Imported from South Korea, the first generation Sedona was little more than a nameplate-engineered Carnival II model and was offered only in an SWB format. As such, it didn’t offer equipment that many of its competitors had introduced, such as power sliding doors and liftgate, fold flat third row seating, navigation system, rear-view camera, or backup/parking sensors. Early Sedonas were rated at 15.6 L/100 km (15.1 mpg) (city) and 10.9 L/100 km (21.6 mpg) (highway), but the numbers improved slightly to 14.8 L/100 km (15.9 mpg) (city) and 9.6 L/100 km (24.5 mpg) (highway) for 2005 models.

In North America, the EX was the highest-level body style, offering cosmetic amenities like interior and exterior chrome accents, interior wood grain, leather wrapped steering wheel and gear shift knob, alloy wheels, optional leather appointed seating, sunroof and DVD player.

Facelift
The facelift model was first released in South Korea on 11 February 2001 as the Carnival II. In most markets, this model retained the Carnival name, while North American and some Asian markets renamed this model as the Sedona, which has been used in the United Kingdom since the pre-facelift model in September 1999. Left-hand drive models received a redesigned dashboard and door trim, while the right-hand drive models retained the previous dashboard and door trim design from the pre-facelift model.

Second generation (VQ; 2005)
Kia introduced the second generation Carnival/Sedona worldwide in 2005–in short (SWB) and long-wheelbase (LWB) models – with a 2-inch-wider front track, 3-inch-wider rear track and reduced turning radius than the first generation. The SWB model shares its platform with the Kia Magentis – and was specially designed for the European market, where it falls in the large MPV class.

With a lighter engine, greater use of high-tensile steel in the body, and a lighter transmission and rear suspension, the second generation model weighed approximately 400 lbs less than the first generation.

In certain markets, Kia offered the minivan in both wheelbases (e.g., in North America, Australia) or in other markets, simply as the short-wheelbase configuration (e.g., UK, France). Globally, the minivan was offered with four engines as well as manual and automatic transmissions.

Equipment content varied widely by market–including such features as six airbags (front, front side and air curtain), Anti-lock braking system (ABS) with Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD), Electronic Stability Control (ESC) with Traction Control System (TCS) & Brake Assist System (BAS), dual or tri-zone heating and cooling, "walk through" aisle between the front seats with fold-down tray, tilt/height adjustable steering wheel, Isofix anchor points, rear side sliding doors with "hold open" locking feature (to prevent an open door from inadvertently closing), second row power roll-down windows, third row 60/40-fold-in-floor seat (LWB only), power sliding doors and liftgate, backup sensors, and in-dash navigation.

In European and Asian markets, the SWB models offered a full range of options and available equipment, with a 2+3+2 seating configuration (an essential format in a large MPV for Europe). By contrast, in North America the SWB model was offered only in a base equipment level, with the 2+3+2 seating configuration and high-end options exclusive to LWB models.

United States
Kia introduced the second generation Sedona to the North American market at the Chicago Auto Show in February 2005 for the 2006 model year offering a single engine/transmission choice, the 240 hp 3.8-litre V6 Hyundai Lambda engine with continuously variable intake valve timing and a five-speed manumatic automatic transmission.

Initially offered only in long-wheelbase (LWB) form, the short-wheelbase (SWB) model followed for the 2007 model year. Trim levels include Sedona (SWB), Sedona LX (LWB) and Sedona EX (LWB). A rebadged version of the second generation was offered from 2007 to 2009 as the Hyundai Entourage.

The van was updated for the 2011 model year with a new Tiger Nose grille and taillights, a more powerful engine and a six-speed automatic transmission, but dropped the short-wheelbase version because of poor sales.

The North American configuration earned a five-star safety rating from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration for all seating positions in frontal and side-impact crashes. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety also rated the Sedona "Good" – its highest rating – in front, side and rear impacts. The IIHS has christened the 2006 Sedona a "Gold Top Safety Pick", making the Sedona (and the similar Hyundai Entourage) the safest minivan currently tested. Kia had announced that the 2012 Kia Sedona will be the last Sedona for the American market.

In May 2012, Kia said the Sedona would be discontinued in the U.S. market after the 2012 model year, with a company spokesperson saying the company did not expect to permanently leave the minivan market.

In 2013, Kia relaunched the Sedona as a 2014 model with minor updates.

United Kingdom
The second generation Sedona was the second top selling large MPV in the UK market, and in 2010 received a new grille, new equipment (including a reversing camera built into the rear-view mirror) and a single engine choice, a 192 PS 2.2 CRDi inline-four replacing the 183 PS 2.9 CRDi. The second generation was marketed in three trim levels (1, 2 and 3) with a 5-speed manual transmission or six-speed automatic gearbox. Trim level 1 included air conditioning and electric windows. Trim level 2 received alloy wheels, rear parking camera with the display incorporated into the rear-view mirror, and climate control. Trim level 3 added electronic stability control, leather seats, heated front seats, power tailgate and powered folding door mirrors.

In September 2012, the Sedona was withdrawn from the UK market due to poor sales.

Australia
The second generation Carnival went on sale in Australia in January 2006. Initially, the long-wheelbase 3.8L V6 5-speed automatic Grand Carnival was sold alongside the previous generation 2.5L V6 Carnival, until the second-generation SWB Carnival arrived in August of that year, available in both 5-speed manual and 4-speed automatic, and new 2.7L V6 engine. Both models sat 8 passengers. A 2.9L turbo diesel engine was introduced in the Grand Carnival in March 2009. In June 2010, the Carnival and Grand Carnival underwent a mild facelift, the manual transmission was dropped from the SWB model, and the LWB model received a new 3.5L V6 and 6-speed automatic. In 2011, the SWB Carnival was dropped entirely, while the LWB model gained the new 2.2L "R" series diesel engine, replacing the previous 2.9L engine. The Carnival was Australia's best-selling people mover between 2007 and 2013.

Reception
The Kia Sedona (Carnival) has received the 2007 MotorWeek "Best Minivan" award in its 2007 Drivers' Choice Awards and The Car Book's 2007 "Best Bet" distinction. Overall, Kia models improved 22% in J.D. Power and Associates 2006 Initial Quality Study (IQS), and improved twice as much as any competitor in the last 3 years.

The Kia Sedona ranked 4th the "20 least expensive 2009 vehicles to insure" list by Insure.com. Edmunds.com names Kia Sedona as one of the "Top Recommended" Vehicles for 2010.

Reliability

 * In the 2007 reliability report published by TÜV, 1st generation (1999–2005) of Kia Carnival placed 113th out of 113 in the 2- to 3-year-old cars category, with a defect rate of 25.1%. In the 2008 TÜV report, 1st generation (1999–2005) of Kia Carnival placed 116th out of 116 in the same category, with a defect rate of 19.70%, and also placed 111th out of 111 in the 4- to 5-year-old cars category, with a defect rate of 27.60%.
 * According to MSN autos reliability survey, 2006 Kia Sedona reliability rated as good, overall 5/5. It rated as "Minimal Problems", and comment as "Infrequent problems reported, all with low repair costs." MSN Autos use Identifix for data on all automobiles.
 * According to MyRide.com reliability survey, The MyRide Reliability Ratings are collected from visitors and past customers of Autobytel Inc.'s websites (Autobytel.com, Autoweb.com and CarSmart.com) who own vehicles from model year 2001 and newer via an online survey conducted by an independent third party.
 * Durability scored 86 (Industrial average 80)
 * Mechanical Quality scored 89 (Industrial average 80)

 * The 2009 Kia Sedona's JD Power reliability score is same as the 2009 Honda Odyssey and 2009 Dodge Grand Caravan.

Hyundai Entourage

From 2006 to 2009, Kia manufactured a rebadged variant of the Carnival for sister company Hyundai. Manufactured in Kia's Sohari Plant and marketed as the Hyundai Entourage, the production Entourage was shown at the Chicago Auto Show in February 2006 and went on sale in April 2006 in long wheelbase form.

The Entourage was powered by the company's 3.8 L Lambda V6, seated seven, and offered optional equipment including automatic climate control, leather seating, power sliding doors and tailgate, reverse sensors, and a six-disc in-dash CD changer.

In April 2009, the Entourage was discontinued in North America for the 2010 model year. Entourage's revised styling was adopted in South Korea as a facelift for the Kia Carnival, except for revised grilles suited to the Kia brand.

Trim levels

 * The (base) GLS model features 16-inch wheels, removable second-row captain's chairs, 60/40 split-folding third-row fold-in-floor seat, a six-way manual-adjustable driver seat, tri-zone air-conditioning, six-speaker CD stereo, cruise control, power windows and door locks and keyless entry.
 * The SE level adds 17-inch alloys, dual power-sliding rear doors, heated mirrors, automatic climate control, a leather-wrapped steering wheel with audio controls wood or metal accents and an eight-way power-adjustable driver seat.
 * The Limited trim level includes a power opening/closing liftgate, heated leather seats and an electroluminescent instrument cluster – with optional sunroof, 13-speaker surround-sound audio system, four-way power front-passenger seat, power-adjustable pedals and seating memory system.

Awards
The American configuration of the Hyundai Entourage earned a five-star safety rating–the highest honor the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration bestows–for all seating positions in frontal and side-impact crashes. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) rates the Entourage "Good"–its highest rating – in front, side and rear impacts. The IIHS rated the 2007 Entourage a "Gold Top Safety Pick," making Entourage with the similar Kia Sedona the safest minivans tested for 2007.

The 2009 Hyundai Entourage minivan was recognized as a Best Family Car for 2009 by Parents magazine and Edmunds.com in their annual list of family vehicles.

The Hyundai Entourage ranked 3rd for the "20 least expensive 2009 vehicles to insure" list by Insure.com. According to research, the Entourage is one of the least expensive vehicle to insure. Low rates tend to reflect a vehicle's safety, and the drivers who tend to buy them.

Third generation (YP; 2014)
The third generation Carnival/Sedona debuted in April 2014 at the New York International Auto Show for the 2015 model year. For the United States market, the Sedona features the Lambda Gasoline Direct Injection (GDI) 3.3-litre V6 engine producing 206 kW and 336 Nm, six-speed automatic transmission and front-wheel drive. For the South Korean market, it is available only with the 2.2-litre diesel engine which produces 147 kW and 440 Nm.

United States
In the United States, the Sedona was previously only available in LX and EX trim levels. In 2015, Kia expanded the trim levels to L, LX, EX, SX and Limited.

Saudi Arabia
In Saudi Arabia, it is available in the Grand Carnival version and comes in the LX and EX trim levels, whereby EX being the top-of-the-line with some SX-L features.

Australia
In Australia, the Carnival is available in S, Si, SLi and Platinum trim levels with the choice of either the Lambda 3.3-litre GDI V6 or the R-Series 2.2-litre I4 Diesel mated to a 6-speed automatic, while models from 2018 came standard with an 8-speed automatic. Since its Australian debut in February 2015, the Carnival has consistently been Australia's top selling people mover averaging around 500 sales per month, while for the year of 2019, 6,493 Carnival's had been registered.

India
Kia India launched the Carnival in India on 5 February 2020 at the Auto Expo 2020. The Indian version is powered by a 2.2-litre CRDi diesel engine, mated to an eight speed automatic transmission. The Carnival is available in three variants, which are Prestige, Limousine and Limousine+.

Indonesia
In Indonesia, the Grand Sedona was launched in August 2016 at the 24th Gaikindo Indonesia International Auto Show in petrol variant. The diesel variant and facelifted version of the Grand Sedona was launched at the 26th Gaikindo Indonesia International Auto Show in August 2018.

Malaysia
The third generation Carnival was launched in Malaysia in March 2017 as the Grand Carnival as a fully imported vehicle. In January 2018, the vehicle became locally assembled in Malaysia. The Malaysian market Grand Carnival is powered by the 2.2 litre diesel engine with a six-speed automatic transmission. Kia launched the eight-speed automatic transmission in October 2018.

Vietnam
In Vietnam, the Grand Sedona is manufactured in joint venture with THACO at the Chu Lai plant in Quang Nam Province. This model is exported to Thailand since 2019.

Thailand
In Thailand, Yontrakit Kia Motor Co. Ltd has launched the Kia Grand Carnival in Thailand. In November 2019, Yontrakit Kia started importing the Carnival LX trim level from Vietnam instead of South Korea, resulting in significant price reduction due to the ASEAN free trade area.

Mexico
The facelifted Sedona was introduced in Mexico on 5 September 2018 as a 2019 model. It is offered in four trim lines; LX, EX, EX Pack and SXL trim levels. All versions feature a 3.3-litre engine.

Fourth generation (KA4; 2020)
The fourth generation Carnival debuted in June 2020. Using Hyundai-Kia's new mid-size platform, the fourth-generation Carnival's length grows by 40 mm and the wheelbase has been extended by 30 mm. Sales in South Korea began in September 2020.

Facelift
The Carnival facelift was revealed on 27 October 2023 for the 2025 model year. Changes include new front and rear fascias as part of the brand's Opposites United design language, redesigned headlights and taillights, the deletion of the visible handle for the tailgate release, a revamped interior with an updated centre console and new switchgear, new interior features and the inclusion of a hybrid powertrain.

North America
The Sedona nameplate was introduced in the United States in 2001, and used until the fourth generation, when the Kia began using the Carnival nameplate globally. It made its virtual US market debut on 23 February 2021 for the 2022 model year. In the US market, the 2022 Carnival is only offered with the 290 hp Smartstream G3.5 GDi V6. The Carnival went on sale in the U.S. and Canada starting March 2021 and is fully imported from South Korea for the North American market. The trim levels for the North-American spec Carnival were: LX, LX+ (Canada only), EX, EX+ (Canada only), SX, and SX Prestige (USA only). They come in either 7 or 8 seater configuration with the 7 seats offered on the base LX (without Seat Package) and 8 seater option is available on LX models with the Seat Package and is standard on the EX, SX and SX Prestige. On the SX Prestige the seating is reduced to 7 seats when equipped with the optional VIP Lounge Seating For 2023, the Carnival received a Marginal rating in the IIHS' updated Moderate Overlap test, which now emphasizes rear occupant safety.

China
The fourth-generation Carnival was introduced in China in September 2020 as an imported model, it is equipped with the 3.5-litre GDi petrol engine. It is locally assembled since September 2021 by using imported knock-down kits. The locally assembled Carnival is equipped with the locally-built 2.0-litre T-GDi petrol engine.

Thailand
In November 2020, the fourth-generation Carnival was launched in Thailand, the first RHD country to debut the Carnival. In Thailand, the Carnival comes in 11-seater configuration and with the 2.2-litre diesel engine. Three trim levels are available: Limited (later replaced by LX), EX and SXL.

Australia
The fourth-generation Carnival went on sale in January 2021, with four trim levels: S, Si, SLi and Platinum. In Australia, the Carnival comes as 8-seater configuration and available with two engines: a 2.2-litre diesel and 3.5-litre MPi V6 petrol.

In May 2024, the facelifted Carnival range debuted in Australia with five trim levels: S, Sport, Sport+, GT Line Lite and GT Line. The facelift saw the introduction of the Hybrid powertrain only for the GT Line trim.

New Zealand
The fourth-generation Carnival was launched on 18 January 2021, with three trim levels: EX, Deluxe and Premium. In New Zealand, the Carnival comes as 8-seater configuration and with the 2.2-litre diesel engine.

Russia
In March 2021, the fourth-generation Carnival went on sale in Russia and other CIS markets. It is assembled in Kaliningrad by Avtotor and available in 7-seater and 8-seater configurations.

Vietnam
The fourth-generation Carnival was launched in Vietnam on 9 October 2021, with three trim levels available: Luxury, Premium and Signature. For Vietnam, the Carnival comes in 7 and 8 seater configurations, and is offered with two engines: a 2.2-litre diesel and a 3.5-litre MPI V6 petrol. The Carnival is assembled by THACO for the Vietnamese market for all variants. Oddly, Kia Carnival is being called by Kia Vietnam as a "city SUV", despite it being an obvious MPV.

Indonesia
The fourth-generation Carnival was launched in Indonesia on 11 November 2021 at the 28th Gaikindo Indonesia International Auto Show, with two trim levels available: Dynamic and Premiere. In Indonesia, it comes as 11-seater configuration and with the 2.2-litre diesel engine.

In May 2024, the facelifted Carnival range debuted in Indonesia, with a new Premiere (7-seater) variant. The Hybrid powertrain was later added in July 2024.

Malaysia
The fourth-generation Carnival went on sale in Malaysia on 12 January 2022, as a sole variant in 11-seater configuration as a CBU model and with a sole 2.2-litre diesel engine option.

In July 2022, the Carnival CKD versions was introduced and sold alongside the CBU version. There were three CKD variants: Mid (8-seater), High (8-seater), and High (7-seater).

In November 2023, the Carnival 11-seater variant became locally assembled.

The Carnival is manufactured at the new Kia Motor Manufacturing Malaysia (KMMM) assembly plant located in Kulim, Kedah, which will serve both domestic and export markets.

South Africa
The fourth-generation Carnival was launched in South Africa on 25 January 2022, with 4 trim levels; EX, EX+, SX Limited and SXL. In South Africa, it comes as 7 and 8-seater configurations and with the 2.2-litre diesel engine.

Philippines
The fourth-generation Carnival was launched in the Philippines on 17 February 2022, with 2 trim levels: EX and SX. In the Philippines, it comes as 8-seater configuration and with the 2.2-litre diesel engine.

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Capture of Lemnos

The Capture of Lemnos took place in October 1912 during the First Balkan War, serving as the opening action between Greek and Ottoman forces in the Aegean Sea. The strategic value of the island of Lemnos had been recognized by Greek naval planners for many years, as it lay at the entrance of the Dardanelles Strait and offered an excellent natural harbour in Mudros Bay. The island was occupied with little resistance from the small Ottoman garrison, which was taken prisoner. Mudros Bay was made into a forward naval base for the Greek navy, enabling it to blockade the Dardanelles and secure naval dominance in the Aegean. This obstructed the movement of Ottoman reinforcements to the front lines, and allowed the capture of the remaining Ottoman-held Aegean islands over the following months. Ceded to Greece in 1914, due to the subsequent outbreak of World War I, the island's status remained disputed, and its annexation to Greece was not confirmed until the Treaty of Lausanne in 1923.

Background
The island of Lemnos had been ruled by the Ottoman Empire since 1456, when Sultan Mehmed II captured the domains of the Genoese Gattilusio dynasty in the northeastern Aegean Sea. The population of the island remained predominantly Greek throughout Ottoman rule. French scholar Vital Cuinet, in his 1896 work La Turquie d'Asie, recorded a population of 27,079, of which 2,450 were Muslims and the rest Greek Orthodox.

Already during the Greco-Turkish War of 1897, the Greek government had considered the occupation of the northern Aegean Islands, chiefly Lemnos and Imbros, due to their strategic location at the entrance of the Dardanelles Strait. However, despite the superiority of the recently modernized Royal Hellenic Navy over the Ottoman Navy at that time, the Greek naval command hesitated to carry out these tasks, and the rapid defeat of the Greek army on land in Thessaly led to the quick conclusion of the war in a humiliating Greek defeat. In subsequent years, Greek naval strategists such as Konstantinos Dosios (Η κατά θάλασσαν Ελλάς, 'Greece and Sea-Power', 1900) and Periklis Argyropoulos (Το Ναυτικόν της Ελλάδος πρόγραμμα, 'The Naval Programme of Greece', 1905) pointed out that the task of seizing Lemnos would be of crucial importance in a Greco-Turkish naval war. The importance of Lemnos was also appreciated by Italy, which envisaged occupying it during its own 1911–1912 war with the Ottomans, only to back down due to the vehement opposition of Austria-Hungary.

Nevertheless, when the First Balkan War broke out in October 1912, existing Greek plans called for the port of Oreos in northern Euboea to be the wartime anchorage for the Greek fleet, as in 1897. This was a choice that was fraught with distinct disadvantages for the Greeks: unlike in 1897, the Ottomans' main warships were more modern, faster and powerful than the Greeks'. In addition, according to the 1912 Greco-Bulgarian military convention that signalled Greece's entry into the Balkan League against the Ottoman Empire, the Greek fleet undertook the role of establishing dominance in the Aegean Sea and interrupting seaborne Ottoman communications between Asia Minor and the Balkans. This meant keeping a close watch on the Dardanelles to prevent a sortie of the Ottoman fleet. In that case, a forward anchorage was an absolute necessity, both to allow the Greek patrol ships to recover in the harsh winter conditions of the Aegean, as well as to allow them to be supported in a timely manner by the slower Greek battleship squadron. Mudros Bay in Lemnos satisfied this need.

Capture of Lemnos
At the outbreak of the war, the commander-in-chief of the Greek navy, Rear Admiral Pavlos Kountouriotis, divided the fleet into two: the bulk of the available ships became the Aegean Sea Fleet, under his own command, and the remainder formed a small Ionian Sea Squadron. It was also apparently Koundouriotis, on his own initiative, who selected Lemnos as the forward base for the Greek fleet, instead of Oreos. The Greek Prime Minister, Eleftherios Venizelos, was persuaded by the admiral's suggestion, but insisted on obtaining the consent of the British government for this first.

The Aegean Fleet under Koundouriotis set sail on 18 October 1912, followed by the passenger steamer Pineios, carrying two companies of the 20th Infantry Regiment to be used as a landing force. The fleet arrived at the capital of Lemnos, Kastro (Myrina) at 14:00 on the next day, and Koundouriotis issued a demand for the surrender of the island's garrison. The Ottoman forces on the island were small, some thirty men and three officers according to Turkish sources, while Greek sources give 47 men and three officers. The local Ottoman governor, stalling for time, replied that he was unaware of the declaration of war, and requested a 24-hour period to consider his answer.

With the arrival of Pineios on, Kountouriotis moved his ships into Mudros Bay. The Ottomans having failed to respond to the Greek admiral's demands, the Greek forces began landing at 08:00 on on the western coast of Mudros Bay. The landing, under Major Ioulianos Kontaratos, was unopposed, and was completed in three hours. After that, the Greek troops moved west towards Kastro. The Greeks encountered only minor resistance, by the Ottoman garrison and a group of about 280 armed Muslim inhabitants of the village of Lera (modern Agios Dimitrios). Their resistance was overcome after a brief firefight, as the Ottomans dispersed. The Greeks suffered no casualties. The Greek force arrived at Kastro during the night, taking over control of the city. The Greek flag was raised over the island's capital the next day,. The Ottoman garrison were taken as prisoners of war to Athens.

Aftermath
According to the historian Richard Hall, "The conquest of Lemnos effectively closed the Dardanelles". Mudros became the base for Greek naval operations for the rest of the war. While an excellent natural harbour, Mudros had no infrastructure of any kind at the time. Thus the Greek fleet's main anchorage had to be provisioned and supplied with coal by ship from Piraeus. Likewise, water was also brought by ship from Thessaloniki. A wireless station was established at the islet of Koumbi, while destroyers permanently patrolled the bay entrance for protection against torpedo boat attacks. Eventually, four 100 mm guns, taken from the auxiliary cruisers Esperia and Arkadia, were installed for coastal defence purposes.

Based at Lemnos, the Greeks were able to maintain a close blockade of the Dardanelles, and in two naval battles, at Elli on 16 December 1912 and Lemnos on 18 January 1913, forced the sortieing Ottoman fleet back into the Straits. This cemented Greek control of the Aegean, allowing the Greeks to transport troops and supplies freely, while denying the same to their opponents. Given the incomplete state of the Ottoman rail network, the Greek blockade of the Empire's coasts had a major impact: the Ottoman army's Asian reinforcements were stuck in remote provinces or had to march on foot towards Constantinople, before they could cross into Europe and affect the course of operations there.

Lemnos was also the launching pad for the Greek capture of the Aegean islands of Psara, Imbros, Tenedos, Chios, Lesbos and Samothrace. The fate of these islands was the subject of prolonged diplomatic negotiations, as the Ottomans initially refused to cede them. Finally, in the Treaty of London, the fate of the islands was placed in the hands of the Great Powers, who in the event would cede them to Greece in February 1914, apart from the two closest to the Dardanelles, Imbros and Tenedos. Nevertheless, the Ottoman Empire was not reconciled to their loss, and a naval arms race followed, leading to a crisis in summer 1914 in which a new Greco-Turkish war appeared imminent; the crisis ended only through the outbreak of the First World War. During the First World War, the Entente in turn made use of Mudros Bay as a naval base for the Dardanelles Campaign in 1915. It was thus in the Armistice of Mudros that the Ottoman Empire capitulated to the Entente in 1918. The cession of Lemnos and the other islands to Greece was not finalized until the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne.

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Lusin

Lusin may refer to:

 * Lu Xun (1881–1936), Chinese writer
 * Nikolai Luzin (1883–1950), Russian mathematician
 * Lošinj, an island in Croatia
 * Luzino, a village in Wejherowo County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, in Poland
 * "Lusin" (song), by Garik Papoyan and Sona Rubenyan, 2017

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A99 road

The A99 road is entirely within the former county of Caithness in the Highland of Scotland. It runs generally north/northeast from the A9 at Latheron to Wick and to the A836 at John o' Groats. It was part of the A9 until the A9 classification was transferred to what had been the A895-A882 link between Latheron and Thurso. Between Latheron and Wick it follows, mostly, the route of one of Telford's roads.

Towns, villages and junctions

The A99 runs through or near towns and villages listed below. Junctions listed are with other classified roads.

Road safety
In June 2008, the Road Safety Foundation announced that the most dangerous road in Scotland was the 27 km stretch of the A99 between the A9 at Latheron and Wick. With twelve fatal and serious casualty accidents in three years between 2004 and 2006, the road was one of only four roads in Great Britain rated as Black—the highest risk band—in the EuroRAP report.

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St James's Church, Piccadilly

St James's Church, Piccadilly, also known as St James's Church, Westminster, and St James-in-the-Fields, is an Anglican church on Piccadilly in the centre of London, England. The church was designed and built by Sir Christopher Wren.

The church is built of red brick with Portland stone dressings. Its interior has galleries on three sides supported by square pillars and the nave has a barrel vault supported by Corinthian columns. The carved marble font and limewood reredos are both notable examples of the work of Grinling Gibbons. In 1902, an outside pulpit was erected on the north wall of the church. It was designed by Temple Moore and carved by Laurence Arthur Turner. It was damaged in 1940, but restored at the same time as the rest of the fabric.

History
In 1662, Henry Jermyn, 1st Earl of St Albans, was granted land for residential development on what was then the outskirts of London. He set aside land for the building of a parish church and churchyard on the south side of what is now Piccadilly. Christopher Wren was appointed the architect in 1672 and the church was consecrated on 13 July 1684 by Henry Compton, the Bishop of London. In 1685 the parish of St James was created for the church.

The church was severely damaged by enemy action in the London Blitz on 14 October 1940. After the war ended, the church was restored by Sir Albert Richardson. Specialist contractors, Rattee and Kett, of Cambridge, under the supervision of Messrs. W. F. Heslop and F. Brigmore, undertook restoration work, which was completed in 1954. The old lead-covered spire was replaced by a much lighter fibreglass copy. The restored interior, with its pews and light fittings, represents a rare survival of a full suite of church furnishing by Richardson. Southwood Garden was created in the churchyard by Viscount Southwood after the Second World War as a garden of remembrance, "to commemorate the courage and fortitude of the people of London", and was opened by Queen Mary in 1946.

Present
Like many central London churches surrounded by commercial buildings and ever fewer local people, St James's lost numbers and momentum in the 1960s and 1970s. When, in 1980, Donald Reeves was offered the post of rector, the bishop allegedly said "I don't mind what you do, just keep it open." During that decade and most of the 1990s numbers and activity grew, the clergy and congregation gaining a reputation for being a progressive, liberal and campaigning church. That has continued. The "congregation" rejects that description and prefers "community". It is centred on the Eucharist, the celebration of the principal Christian sacrament. It finds expression in a wide range of interest groups: spiritual explorers, labyrinth walking, Julian prayer meetings, the Vagabonds group (a lively discussion group which takes its name from a William Blake poem and in faithfulness to that text meets in a local alehouse), an LGBT group and many others. The community has actively supported, and supports, the ordination of women to all the orders of the church, the just treatment of asylum seekers and those living in poverty. It celebrates what it regards as the "radical welcome" found in the heart of the Gospels and attested to by the Incarnation. The church was embroiled in a controversy in 2023 after organizing a drag show in the Church, it drew some criticism, being described as "inappropriate". In May 2024 St James's was the first church to have a show garden at RHS Chelsea Flower Show. Its gold award-winning 'Imagine the World to be Different' garden was designed by Robert Myers to highlight the restorative power of urban green spaces and was sponsored by Project Giving Back in support of its fundraising campaign for the Wren Project, to revitalise the church and garden.

Organ
The west wall of the Church is dominated by a sumptuous organ case of carved and gilded oak by Grinling Gibbons, which originally contained an organ by Renatus Harris, originally built for the Roman Catholic chapel in Whitehall Palace, and installed here in 1691. This organ was entirely rebuilt in 1852 by J. C. Bishop, who added the choir case that now sits in front of the original Gibbons Case. A restoration project has been underway since at least 1982, which has not yet come to fruition. The current proposal is to re-build a new organ within the historic case. At present, the case sits empty, and an electronic replacement is used instead.

Concerts
Concerts are regularly held in the church. Concerts have included performances by popular contemporary musicians such as John Grant, Tokio Myers, Victoria Canal, R.E.M., the folk musician Laura Marling as part of her "church tour", the collegiate Indian-American music group Penn Masala and Devin Townsend on his 2015 UK acoustic tour.

Creative art programme
Hauser & Wirth, a contemporary art gallery, ran a programme of outdoor sculpture exhibitions in Southwood Garden in the grounds of the church in 2009–2010. The first exhibition was of work by the Swiss sculptor Hans Josephsohn.

From 23 December 2013 to 5 January 2014 the "Bethlehem Unwrapped" demonstration against the Israeli West Bank barrier featured an art installation by Justin Butcher, Geof Thompson, and Dean Willars, which included a large replica section of the wall. The installation blocked the view of the church, other than a section of the top of the tower, which was stated by church authorities to be part of the point of the demonstration. Following a short-term residency based in the bell tower at St James's, Turner Prize nominated artist Jesse Darling's Miserere (a substantial new work in the form of a choir or congregation) was installed in the church 12-16 October 2022.

In September 2023, a series of murals by Che Lovelace were unveiled in the church, to mark the 250th anniversary of the baptism of abolitionist Ottobah Cugoano, which took place at St James's in 1773; it was the first permanent artwork commissioned by the church, as well as the first anywhere in the world to commemorate Cugoano.

Rectors of St James's

 * 1685–1692 Thomas Tenison (later Archbishop of Canterbury)
 * 1692–1695 Peter Birch (in opposition to Wake, removed by House of Lords adjudication in 1695)
 * 1693–1706 William Wake (later Archbishop of Canterbury)
 * 1706–1709 Charles Trimnell (also Bishop of Norwich from 1708, later Bishop of Winchester)
 * 1709–1729† Samuel Clarke (philosopher)
 * 1729–1733 Robert Tyrwhitt
 * 1733–1750 Thomas Secker (also Bishop of Bristol then Oxford, later Archbishop of Canterbury)
 * 1750–1759 Charles Moss (also Archdeacon of Colchester, later Bishop of St David's then Bath & Wells)
 * 1759–1763† Samuel Nicolls
 * 1763–1802† William Parker
 * 1802–1825† Gerrard Andrewes (also Dean of Canterbury from 1809)
 * 1825–1845 John Giffard Ward (later Dean of Lincoln)
 * 1846–1853 John Jackson (later Bishop of Lincoln then London)
 * 1853–1895 John Edward Kempe
 * 1895–1900 Alfred Barry (formerly Bishop of Sydney)
 * 1900–1914† Joseph McCormick
 * 1914–1918 William Temple (later Archbishop of Canterbury)
 * 1918–1922 Herbert Priestley Cronshaw
 * 1922–1954† Charles Lambert (also Archdeacon of Hampstead)
 * 1954–1967 John Brewis (formerly Archdeacon of Doncaster)
 * 1967–1980 Bill Baddeley (formerly Dean of Brisbane)
 * 1980–1998 Donald Reeves
 * 1999-2009 Charles Hedley
 * 2010– Lucy Winkett

† Rector died in post

Other staff

 * Leopold Stokowski was choirmaster from 1902 until 1905, when he left for a similar position in New York.

Notable baptisms

 * Sir Joseph Banks, baptised 13 February 1743.
 * William Blake, baptised 1757.
 * Ottobah Cugoano, baptised (as John Stuart) on 20 August 1773.
 * George Thomas Smart, baptised 2 June 1776.
 * Philip Stanhope, 4th Earl of Chesterfield
 * Lord Chatham

Notable weddings

 * John Ross and Alicia Arnold (the paternal great-grandparents of Francis Scott Key; who wrote the American national anthem) were married.
 * The Scottish composer James Oswald married Mary Ann Melvill on 12 February 1744.
 * Ince and Mayhew, founding partners of the furniture makers, married sisters in a double wedding here in 1762.
 * Frederick de Horn and Angelica Kauffman, 1767. Horn was an imposter who was already married and Kauffman was a successful artist.
 * George Bass, explorer of Australia and the Bass Strait, married Elizabeth Waterhouse in 1800.
 * Michael William Sharp, portrait painter, married the actress and dancer Arabella Menage in 1804.
 * Georges-Alexis, marquis d'Amboise and Louisa Barwell, daughter of Richard Barwell, Member of Parliament, in 1815.
 * Philip Hardwick, the architect, married Julia Shaw in 1819.
 * General Sir Robert Arbuthnot, KCB, married Harriet Smith in 1826.
 * Prince Friedrich Wilhelm von Hanau, eldest son of Frederik William, Elector of Hesse-Kassel (or Hesse-Cassel), married actress Auguste Birnbaum in 1856.
 * Also in 1856, George Augustus Hopley, the Belgian Consul to Charleston South Carolina, in the US, married the French-born Felicité Claudine Rancine on 26 July. (George later died in Paris on 28 May 1859, aged 52.)
 * On 5 November 1865, Samuel Baker, explorer of Africa, married Florence Barbara Maria von Sass, a woman he had rescued from the white slave trade when she was a girl. He was twenty years her senior.
 * In 1873 the actor and dancer Fred Vokes married the actress Martha Isabella 'Bella' Moore.
 * John Cyril Porte, an aviation pioneer and air racer, married Minnie Miller on 16 August 1916. The ceremony was conducted by John E. T. Evitt, Curate.
 * Robert Graves, an author and poet, married Nancy Nicholson in the church in 1918. The best man was George Mallory.
 * John Seward Johnson I, the American heir and son of Robert Wood Johnson I (co-founder of Johnson & Johnson, married Ruth Dill, the sister of Diana Dill, in 1924.
 * James Arbuthnot MP, married Emma Broadbent, daughter of Michael Broadbent, in 1984.
 * The marriage of Flora Ogilvy, granddaughter of Princess Alexandra, The Honourable Lady Ogilvy, and Timothy Vesterberg, was blessed in the church on 10 September 2021.

Notable burials

 * John Arbuthnot, buried 1735
 * Sir Charles Asgill, 2nd Baronet, equerry to Frederick, Duke of York
 * Sir George Baker, 1st Baronet, FRS, FSA, physician to King George III (memorial in church)
 * Mary Beale, one of the first professional women artists, buried 1699
 * Robert Anning Bell, artist and designer (memorial in church)
 * Lieutenant-General Sir Colin Campbell, KCB, British Army officer and colonial governor
 * Charles Cotton, poet and writer, best known for translating the work of Michel de Montaigne from the French, for his contributions to The Compleat Angler and for the influential The Compleat Gamester (memorial in church)
 * Sir Richard Croft, 6th Baronet, physician to the British Royal Family and obstetrician to Princess Charlotte of Wales. He became famous due to his role in 'the triple obstetrical tragedy' of 1817 (memorial in church).
 * William Douglas, 4th Duke of Queensberry (also known as "Old Q.")
 * William Elliot of Wells, equerry to King George II, buried 1764
 * James Gillray, notable caricaturist
 * Lieutenant General Hugh Mackay Gordon, British Army officer who became Lieutenant Governor of Jersey (memorial in church)
 * The Earl of Grantham, Lord Chamberlain to Queen Caroline of Ansbach
 * Lord Anne Hamilton, younger son of James Hamilton, 4th Duke of Hamilton
 * Field Marshal Studholme Hodgson, British Army officer who served throughout the 18th century
 * William Hunter, anatomist (memorial in church)
 * Pedro Vicente Maldonado, Ecuadorian scientist (memorial in church)
 * William McGillivray and his wife, Magdalen MacDonald (memorial in church)
 * Stephen Peter Rigaud, mathematical historian and astronomer (memorial in church)
 * David Ross (1728-1790) actor and theatre owner
 * Bartholomew Ruspini, 18th-century surgeon-dentist and philanthropist, remembered for founding the Royal Masonic School for Girls (memorial in church)
 * Benjamin Stillingfleet, botanist, the first bluestocking
 * Thomas Sydenham (1624–89)
 * Samuel Turner, early British visitor to Tibet, interred 1802
 * Willem van de Velde, the elder, marine painter (memorial in church)
 * Willem van de Velde, the younger, marine painter (memorial in church)
 * Frances Deering Wentworth, wife of Sir John Wentworth, 1st Baronet

Notable memorials

 * William Blake, poet, painter and printmaker, now considered a seminal figure in the history of the poetry and visual arts of the Romantic Age
 * Sir William Bowman, 1st Baronet, surgeon, histologist and anatomist, best known for his research using microscopes to study various human organs
 * Richard Bright, physician and early pioneer in the research of kidney disease, particularly known for his description of Bright's disease
 * Mary Delany, artist and Bluestocking, equally famous for her "paper mosaicks" and her lively correspondence
 * William Curtis Green, architect
 * General John Studholme Hodgson, British Army officer who served as Colonel of the 4th (King's Own) Regiment of Foot
 * Sir Herbert Hughes-Stanton, watercolour and oil painter, predominantly of landscapes
 * Francis Ernest Jackson, painter, draughtsman, poster designer and lithographer
 * Sir George Johnson, eminent physician, who became recognized as an authority on cholera and kidney diseases
 * Joseph McCormick, cricketer, Canon of York and Chaplain to Queen Victoria, King Edward VII and King George V
 * Frederick William Pomeroy, prolific sculptor of architectural and monumental works
 * Sir Henry Rushbury, painter and etcher
 * Sir James Jebusa Shannon, Anglo-American artist
 * Air Vice Marshal Sir Arthur Vyell Vyvyan, KCB, DSO, officer in the Royal Navy in the early 20th century and later a senior officer in the newly created Royal Air Force
 * George Spencer Watson, portrait artist of the late romantic school who sometimes worked in the style of the Italian Renaissance
 * William Yarrell, zoologist, writer, bookseller and naturalist, admired by his contemporaries for his precise scientific work

Detached burial ground

A separate burial ground of St James's Church was developed in Camden, in use from 1790 until 1853. It had been obtained via a 1789 act of Parliament (29 Geo. 3. c. 47), which also provided for the erection of a chapel of ease for the parish, designed by Thomas Hardwick and opening in 1791.

With the railway-related expansion around Euston Station, the Chapel was given a parish of its own in 1871, but the cemetery fell into disrepair and became St James's Gardens in 1878 with only a few gravestones lining the edges of the park. Part of the Gardens, located between Hampstead Road and Euston railway station, was built over when Euston station was expanded in around 1887. To avoid public outcry, the affected remains were reinterred at St Pancras Cemetery. The Gardens were closed to the public in 2017 to allow the further expansion of Euston station for the High Speed 2 (HS2) rail project. Between October 2018 and 2020, archaeologists working on HS2 excavated approximately 40,000 burials. It was proposed to re-bury the remains after they had been examined by osteo-archaeologists. The remains were agreed to be re-interred at Surrey's Brookwood Cemetery which has received relocated remains from London since the 1870s. While almost all remains would be relocated there, it was agreed in 2019 that Matthew Flinders' remains would be buried in his home village of Donington, Lincolnshire. Work to prepare for the arrival of the remains at Brookwood began around August 2020 and was completed sometime after November 2020. The Church hosted an exhibition, Stories of St James's Burial Ground, with Museum of London Archaeology in spring 2023.

Notable burials included:

 * James Christie (1730–1803), naval officer and auctioneer
 * Matthew Flinders (1774–1814), naval officer and explorer, whose burial was re-located in January 2019.
 * Lord George Gordon (1751–1793), politician
 * Bill Richmond (1763–1829), boxer
 * John Charles Felix Rossi (1762–1839), English sculptor
 * Thomas Garnett (1766 to 1802), English physician and natural philosopher, first professor of natural philosophy and chemistry at the Royal Institution (1799)

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Talk:BVE Trainsim

Should Object Converter and Mirror be counted as needing translation, as there is little if any text involved?

Wouldn't say so - they're just drag and drop things, no text at all.

Source for iOS Version
There is no source for the BVE Trainsim Mobile. Please provide that information, as it is nowhere found on the official BVE website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.44.126 (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Developer hints and other things...
i) Anyone interested in adding some Developer hints in a Wikibook on BVE?

ii) BVE files are essentialy text... So any want to developa route in a Wiki fashion?

WINE
I would be very interested in someone describing using BVE via WINE. I haven't tried to use BVE 2 or BVE 4 via WINE. But openBVE is working in Linux without WINE. More info is on official web-page of openBVE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.85.207.106 (talk) 19:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Routes
In the external links area, I added some notable route websites, Midlandbve has added his route, which I don't beleive is notable until it is released. Tubechallenger 15:32, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

You could have said RSR-UK wasn't notable prior to August 2001 (release of WJ-MKC). I assure you it was TC ;-).

I guess, but I'm talking about current times Tubechallenger 17:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

@Pacific Coast Highway
What's wrong with having http://www.trainsimcentral.co.uk as an external link? They have routes of London Underground and I've tried them out b4, they're not spam!! I hope you replace that link. Herenthere 21:19, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * This is the main problem. If we add Trainsimcentral, then other sites would want a mention. At the most, there should be a link to the program itself and a larger database that covers an international area, not just the UK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pacific Coast Highway (talk • contribs)

Source tag
Should we remove the references/source tag since any information in this article is from a computer program/game, and since most of the info is from personal experience, the tag doesn't really fit...? --Herenthere 22:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Focus on UK appropriate?
Although BVE is a japanese program and there exists routes and trains from all over the world, this site currently focuses heaviliy on UK stuff. I think that the image in the upper right isn't appropriate for the same reason. Additionally what's that "Screenshot of BVE 2. A Class 150 ... DOWNLOAD" all about? It's a work in progress in the screenshot and obviously an opportunity to directly download it. I therefore say this article is biased toward UK. Please work on that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.247.239.41 (talk) 13:10, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

OpenBVE
A new open source simulator called OpenBVE is currently under development here: http://openbve.zxq.net/, which attempts to have almost one to one compatibility with BVE routes, objects and trains. The current alpha release (0.3.0.2) already looks very promising. Should this be mentioned here? 84.163.167.142 (talk) 15:11, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Due to the newer information now available about "openBVE" (Correct Spelling), the redirect from the search has been disabled to make a main article.

Bonanza123d (talk) 18:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Advert
I have placed the advert tag on this page, it also needs WP:Reliable sources. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:32, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I've made a concerted effort to clean the article up. I'm almost certain that the Route Structure, Creation of Content, and Downloading sections should be removed because Wikipedia is not a HOWTO but I'm not 100% sure. I have no idea whether the Comparison section shoud be part of the article or not. If anyone can find a policy page regarding it, please link to it in your reply.Zian (talk) 09:29, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Dubious
This article contains a large number of self-published sources and otherwise unreliable primary sources. According to Wikipedia's verifiability guidelines (V), references to internet forums and open wikis are largely unacceptable. This applies to references 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, and 12. Additionally, 4 of the 14 references are to the programmers' own webpage and must be considered unreliable. The other links seem to be content directories. As such, this article appears to be largely self-written by the fan community of the program and must be considered to advertise the program (see NOT). I have tried to verify some information that is cited, including the occupation of Takashi Kojima (which is not mentioned in the citation given) and the suggestion that the program can only be legally downloaded from the website of the programmer (which is untrue as the Japanese version of the BVE 2 program is apparently hosted on www.vector.co.jp. 89.247.208.90 (talk) 17:22, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

 * As far as I see that, there was a debate a few years ago about the deletion of the article, and the result was to keep it. The article has undergone many edit since then, but I would agree that the quality hasn't improved. There are many unverified claims in the article, including the sections in which the many templates were recently added (do not use them as a badge, please!), and the source are in fact not very reliable.
 * Take for example the recent edit that says that there are almost 300 routes available. The references to http://www.bve.cz/en/home.html and http://wiki.bve-routes.com/index.php/Category:Routes seem good enough to support this claim - because if you browse through these lists and end up at the maintainers of the routes, you can see the content. However, there are three other links (e.g. http://www.bvestation.com/) which seem to link to single routes. Wikipedia itself is not a directory, so I would say, too, that these links serve only advertisement purposes. The sections that don't use any references are the biggest problem. Everything that is said in there is not verifiable and likely original research. And the many weasel words such as "BVE Trainsim is noted for" or "many real-life drivers frequently comment" only try to conceal original research. Worse, "simple things such as [...] make BVE the preferred choice amongst many gamers" is completely unacceptable: Everyone has their own preference. There are Linux users who like Linux, there are Coke consumers who like coke. It's unnecessary to mention.
 * In addition to that, the article contains instructions on installation, which is maybe something for Wikibooks, not Wikipedia. The Downloading BVE section contains a list of tools, but it's nothing more than a list, i.e. not incorporated in a meaningful context, just promotion of additional software. The Creation of content and Route Structure sections needs further explanation as someone unfamiliar with the topic doesn't understand that, not to mention lack of citations. I would agree that the whole article only serves to advertise the project but hasn't encyclopedic value. I have followed the arguments in the deletion debate of 2006 and agree that a niche market should not be the reason why the program isn't mentioned here, but it needs a degree of verifiability to support all the claims.
 * If nobody improves on these things, then I will remove all sentences that use weasel words (OR) and maybe remove the parts which are completely unsupported or dubious. 72.52.197.200 (talk) 20:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Have done that. Wikipedia's policies are quite clear about that. Content must be verifiable by sources. If there is no citation given, or if citations do not prove the information given (e.g. the youtube links), then they are to be removed (see Verifiability, No_original_research). I suggest to consider moving some content on installation and available tools to Wikibooks, because Wikipedia is not a manual (see NOT). This page might still constitute advertisement according to NOT, because all references are to self-published sources, e.g. wikis and personal websites, however, I have left the rest of the article as-is for now. 87.123.98.39 (talk) 14:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

"openBVE is an independent attempt to create an open source version of BVE": According to Software versioning, a version is a sequential numbering of one program. From that, I conclude that one program cannot be a version of another program. The claim is not supported by citations given. "sparked mainly by the lack of progress on BVE by Mackoy": Not in the citations given. 89.247.240.236 (talk) 09:21, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Violation of content policies and guidelines
I cannot emphasize this more. This article does not comply with Wikipedia's content policy on verifiability, and Wikipedia's content guidelines on reliable sources. The issue is that this article contains many self-published sources originating from the fan community of this program.

In particular, SPS says that "articles should be based upon reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy", and that "Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published, then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason self-published media, whether books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, Internet forum postings, tweets etc., are largely not acceptable."

Information in this article which does not comply with these policies/guilines are:

"More than 300 routes have been built by independent developers, simulating routes in Asia, North America, South America, and Europe" - Not third-party verifyable. The information originates from an open wiki directly affiliated with this project.

"This version supported Japanese safety systems such as ATS-S (ATS-SN), ATS-P and ATC, as well as partial support to British Rail's AWS. It had a fixed HUD on the right of the monitor, where the timetable, safety systems and time of the day was shown." - Not third-party verifyable. The information is if anything a self-advertisement cited from the project's homepage, but even the verification of that information fails because it's not mentioned on the cited page.

The whole "Creation of content" section cites from Google Translate, which is definately not a reliable source and a clear content policy violation. Additionally, the section is incomprehensible as it apparently targets users already familiar with BVE Trainsim creation of content methods.

Apparently, some editors seem to have a conflict of interest according to Conflict_of_interest. This guidelines says that "Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a forum for advertising or self-promotion, or a vanity press. As such, it should contain only material that complies with its content policies, and Wikipedians must place the interests of the encyclopedia first." The following editors, among others, do not comply with this, because they repeatedly try to advertise BVE Trainsim by including content cited from their own personal websites, by including information that is not cited at all, and by reverting edits that are made in accordance with the content policies:

User: Pacific Coast Highway (reverts edits made in accordance with content policies) User: Mbssbs (cites from personal websites) User: Eezypeazy (cites from a wiki directly involved with the project)

My suggestion is to get rid of all information that does not comply with the policies/guidelines, or alternatively, propose AfD due to lack of reliability. I strongly suggest that the problematic users don't attempt edit warring just because they don't want to adhere to the policies in favor of their self-promotion.

89.247.217.65 (talk) 18:06, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

 * Back up just a minute. That was my first edit into this foray, I've stood on the sidelines through this whole Afd thing. Before you decide to start a forest fire, how about you try to assume good faith? Because someone does not agree with you, does not automatically mean they are a disruptive editor. Hurling accusations at other editors is not the way to solve a content dispute. I have a lot more to say on this matter, but I will do so later on when I am less busy and have a cooler head to think with. Pacific Coast Highway {spring • ahead} 01:00, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've cooled down, becomed unbusied, and have had some time to think this through.
 * The issue you raised about the 300 routes, is a valid one. I've yet to find a non-wiki source that gives an actual number amount of routes created.
 * Right below that part of WP:SPS you quoted is another section:
 * ''Self-published or questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, especially in articles about themselves, without the requirement that they be published experts in the field, so long as:
 * the material is not unduly self-serving;
 * it does not involve claims about third parties;
 * it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject;
 * there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity;
 * the article is not based primarily on such sources.''

 * The section on the program's history cites from the developer's site and falls under this guideline. The material is not unduly self serving, it describes the development of BVE Trainsim; it does not make any claims about third parties, it does not involve claims about events not related to the subject, there is no reasonable doubt to the page's authenticity, and the majority of this article, apart from this section, is not based on this source. I've also tracked down another source (Virtual Railroader) that describes the program being made by a "14-year old Japanese student".

 * As to your concern that Google Translate is not a reliable source, and that it's a clear content policy violation, I've found this about the subject:
 * ''English-language sources are preferable to sources in other languages so that readers can easily verify the content of the article. However, sources in other languages are acceptable where an English equivalent is not available. Where editors translate a direct quote, they should quote the relevant portion of the original text in a footnote or in the article. Translations published by reliable sources are preferred over translations made by Wikipedia editors.
 * There is no english equivlant availble that describes the development of the program. As long as the original japanese text is cited, it follows this as well. Perhaps the translation issue is better left to someone that is more proficient in the Japanese language, as Google Translator produces comical results.

 * Now as for your accusations that I have a conflict of interest, can you explain how? Conflict of interest is described as contributing to Wikipedia in order to promote your own interests or those of other individuals, companies, or groups. I'm not a route developer, nor do I have a hand in the development of the software. I did not take part in the Afd debate last month, nor have I recently edited the BVE Trainsim article prior to this past week. I should remind you that the first course of action when dealing with COI is to directly contact the editor, not call them out on a talk page as you did above. I should also remind you that using COI allegations to harass an editor or to gain the upper hand in a content dispute is prohibited, and can result in a block or ban. This is a content dispute, and with any dispute on Wikipedia, requires civility, not accusations of bad faith editing, or the use of playground tactics. I hope you remember this going forward. Pacific Coast Highway {spring • ahead} 19:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC) (UTC)

 * Unfortunately, the article is based primary on non-third party sources that are self-serving. Currently, this includes references 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10. They are all associated with this project and are not third party, and are forming the majority of sources in this article. Why are they self-serving? Well, if I create a history section for one of my programs, I can write anything in there, whether true or not. It is not possible to verify this information, which is what WP:V is all about. However, I can write anything in there that promotes my program, thus making the information self-serving for the program. Citing this information means citing anything that is not third-party verifiable. Thus, I have doubts to its authenticity.
 * Google Translate is not a reliable source, because a machine translation is not a reliable translation. You can include citations from non-English sources, but you have to link against the originals, not against a machine translation - nor can you use a machine translation in an article. "As long as the original japanese text is cited." This is exactly not the case with using Google Translate.
 * Sorry for my blatant direct attacks, it won't happen again. But there is a problem with this article, and this problem is that the majority of contributions seems to originate from the fan community of this program. This is not something I can definately prove, but when the Wikipedia user names match with those found on forums explicitly related to BVE Trainsim (I can give you a list if interested), then I have strong doubts as to if this article can be reliable and neutral. The problem is that given only third party sources, there is not much to say about BVE Trainsim, because those sources hardly contain any usable information. As this is obviously a niche article and doesn't receive much attention from readers or admins, it is almost an invitation for the fans to write anything in here, because almost no one will notice. If you take a look at the history section, you can see that in the past, most information was entirely unsourced but survived in this form for a long time. Only much later, information was challenged and removed, then reintroduced without sources, removed again, introduced again with unreliable sources, removed again. This seems to continue. Some people want certain content in here so badly that I need to contest. From my point of view, fans are trying to advertise their game here, so I'm stepping in to prevent that. If information is not properly backed with a reliable source, it needs to go. But if the majority of contributors are involved with this project, then a properly sourced and reliable article is hardly achievable. 89.247.200.22 (talk) 19:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

 * Ok, I would like to have feedback on the reliability of sources in accordance to Wikipedia's policies. From my point of view:
 * 1. Lew, Alexander. Wired News. -> Acceptable, as Wired News is a recognized "technology news website" according to its Wikipedia article.
 * 2. Simon Tonekham. -> Unacceptable according to WP:SPS, as it's a self-published source by a non-expert.
 * 3. 6. 7. 9. 10. http://mackoy.cool.ne.jp and derivatives. -> Generally unacceptable due to WP:SPS, but may be accepted depending on how one interprets the "on themselves" clause.
 * 5. http://www.bve.cz/en/home.html. Unacceptable according to WP:SPS as it's a self-published source.
 * 4. http://wiki.bve-routes.com. Unacceptable according to WP:SPS as it's a self-published source and open wiki.
 * 8. http://www.railforums.co.uk. Unacceptable according to WP:SPS as it's a self-published source and internet forum.
 * 11. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com. It's a self-published source, and even though it appears to be a third party reviewing page, anyone can set up something like that, which according to WP:SPS would be unacceptable.
 * By the way, WP:SPS says that "if no reliable, third-party sources can be found for an article topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it."
 * Consent, please. 89.247.233.19 (talk) 14:10, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

In order to follow this discussion more easily, it is worth noting that the ip addresses beginning 87.123 and 89.247 are all assigned to the same ISP. I assume that all the comments in this discussion, the previous deletion discussion, and the 11 edits made to the article whose ip addresses begin with these numbers are all made by the same person.

I have not made a contribution since the Afd discussion in early May. However, since no one else has tidied up the article, I have made some changes. Since I only downloaded BVE a few weeks ago in order to find out more about it, I don't think I am part of the fan base.

It was decided in May that the article will be kept. The question now is what it should contain. I have read the Self-published sources policy. I believe that basic information about any program such as release dates, versions, operating systems supported, obtained from the author's website is justified by the "about themselves" section. Also information about a version in development can only come from the author. I think the "future software" tag covers this.

If there was an English language version of the author's website (mackoy.cool.ne.jp) with support information, a users' forum and a list of useful links, then this Wikipedia article could be shorter and would need fewer references. However this is not the case. Since the program's website is Japanese, it seems reasonable for this English Wikipedia article to include an English language site that has translated the Japanese information. For this reason I have added trainsimcentral.co.uk to the reference section. The railforums.co.uk reference could be removed since Trainsimcentral links to the same information on Vista compatibility.

The Wired.com reference, which has been agreed as a reliable source, states: "There are hundreds of downloadable routes (found at various websites) that have been created by various users throughout the world." If this statement were included in the article as it is, it would soon attract a "weasel words" comment. The wiki.bve-routes and bve.cz sites provide the necessary detail. I understand the concerns about references to open wikis, however the article does not use any information or opinions from these references, only noting that they exist and have a certain number of links which can be easily verified.

As for the reviews. The Wired article is OK since it was the main justification for keeping the article.

The article from Simon Tonekham was added during the Afd debate as an additional reference to justify notability, however it is from a personal website, so it could go.

The rockpapershotgun article is more valuable. The website is run by 4 editors and has a forum with 1286 members. It is a uk registered company, runs a weekly podcast and its rated by Alexa Internet as the 34,147th most visited website with 1146 other sites linking to it. I would consider it a reliable source.Chris1515 (talk) 20:33, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Current issues
I mean to be constructive here. In other articles, it's most often easy to check whether an unsourced addition can be sourced or not - just go to the library, browse the internet, etc. In case of BVE Trainsim, the major problem is that there are no quality sources at all. The thewired and rockpapershotgun articles seem to be the only ones barely acceptable here, however, most parts of the page don't draw information from them, but from personal experience in either a) personal websites, b) open wikis, c) public forums, or d) via no citations at all. In order to improve Wikipedia, I would like to back up the information with sources, but given the fact that since the first AfD debate a few years ago, there have been no major improvements in finding sources, I need to conclude that there simply are no such sources. Please prove me wrong. If you can't, the best thing to do from my point of view would be to aggressively remove all unsourced material and potentially remove the unreliable ones, too - following Wikipedia's policies such as WP:V and WP:NOR in order to keep the encyclopedia free from unveriable personal experiences. 89.247.204.185 (talk) 10:31, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) "It is notable for focusing on providing an accurate driving experience": While notability of the subject itself has been established, it has not been established that the program is notable specifically for "providing an accurate driving experience". Whether the experience is accurate or not is not backed with any source, and is highly subjective.
 * 2) "other trains passed along the route are only displayed as stationery objects": I assume personal experience with the program to come up with this, but unfortunately, personal experience is against WP:NOR.
 * 3) "additional routes and train cab views can be added via a number of text-based configuration files": What is "a number of text-based configuration files", and how can they be used to provide for "additional routes and train cab views"? Again, I assume personal experience, but don't see a reliable source for this.
 * 4) "OpenBVE is an independently developed open source simulator that makes uses the same file formats.": The same file formats - but only with a reliable source confirming this.
 * 5) "BVE Trainsim 4 added support for plugins for ATS": As has been tagged for a while, this is not mentioned in the citation given.
 * 6) "By default, BVE Trainsim 4 is not able to run on Microsoft Windows Vista...": Personal experience is not acceptable according to WP:NOR - but a public internet forum is personal experience.
 * 7) "The program aims to be backwards compatible, allowing the full range of existing BVE-style routes and trains to make use of newer hardware": While the first part of the sentence may be acceptable given the "on themselves" clause in WP:V, the "allowing..." continuation seems to be an original synthesis, which is against WP:NOR.
 * 8) "3D models of the trains themselves" and "the addition of animated 3D cab environments and scenery": No source. Please note that the External Links section does not constitute sources according to External_links.
 * 9) "Internally, Openbve makes use of OpenGL for rendering—this allows cross-platform use across multiple operating systems": The first part is not backed with a source, while the latter part is an original synthesis. Even if it was established that Openbve used OpenGL for rendering, it does not proof that this is in particular what makes Openbve cross-platform.
 * 10) "it shares no code with that of BVE Trainsim": No source. Even if one program is open source and the other not, that does not proof that they don't share the same source base (e.g. the programmer of Openbve could have obtained parts of the BVE Trainsim source code from Takashi Kojima).
 * I have consulted Wikipedia's policies and guidelines once again and also asked on Reliable_sources/Noticeboard for guidance. My conclusion: Most of the sources that are used in this article are not acceptable as they are self-published sources that could have been created by anyone who wants to push a personal opinion. However, software itself are published works and may thus be used as references. This means that taking a look at BVE Trainsim should suffice to include information directly offered by it, however, not synthesis in the form of personal judgement or opinions.
 * I have made an effort to clean up the article while preserving as much information as possible. I have removed a series of unreliable sources in accordance with WP:SPS, and also due to the fact that noone objected to that in the previous section "Violation of content policies and guidelines". Furthermore, I don't see a justification why Openbve should be mentioned in this article - after all, it is a different program among many train simulators. You don't file information about Trainz under Microsoft Train Simulator, either, right?
 * Just to add my justification for removing sources:
 * GameFAQ: By its own description, it says that most of the content is contributed via its users - thus outside of editorial control - thus SPS.
 * Alfred Barten: Apparently, he sells books, but via PayPal, not in stores. This makes him no established expert on the field of computer games - thus not a RS.
 * Simon Tonekham, Train Simmer, Peter Baum: Undoubtedly, they are not RS, but SPS.
 * I am not sure about the following source, so I left it intact:
 * UKTrainSim: Apparently, it's a UK-registered company, but who are the people involved? To me it seems fans of train simulators by the site's own description, which isn't too promising.
 * By the way, is there a possibility to move the references to outside of the source text - it is making editing the source text difficult if most of it is URLs and quotations.
 * 87.123.65.25 (talk) 02:54, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * For information. The reliable sources discussion is now archived, and can be found at Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_41 Chris1515 (talk) 21:06, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

OpenBVE Issues
OpenBVE should not be part of the BVE Trainsim article it is a different program although some components are the same —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noobbucket (talk • contribs)

OpenBVE should not be part of the BVE Trainsim article it is a different program although some components are the same, two diffrent people in the coding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noobbucket (talk • contribs)
 * It has been suggested in the article that the openBVE section be split into a new article. openBVE has previously existed as a separate article, but was deleted twice, for lack of notability,in both April and May 2009. See the deletion discussions.
 * Articles_for_deletion/OpenBVE
 * Articles_for_deletion/OpenBVE_(2nd_nomination)
 * Since version 1.0 of openBVE was only released in March 2009, it is not surprising that no references could be found to justify notability at that time. Unless anyone can provide a newer reference to justfy notability, it is unlikely that a separate article for openBVE will be allowed. In this case openBVE should remain a section of the BVE Trainsim article, since this is the program that motivated the writing of openBVE and runs the same content.Chris1515 (talk) 14:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Since there has been no further discussion on the proposal to split the article since September, I have removed the split tag. Chris1515 (talk) 16:33, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Split Proposal February 2010. Since the article OpenBVE has already been created using content from this article, I would suggest waiting to see what reaction the new article gets. There still needs to be a section on openBVE in this article. Chris1515 (talk) 16:58, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Tag Review
There have been several tags on this article since April/May 2009 including Clean Up, Expert, Self published. Since the article has been considerably re-written since then, these tags are probably no longer appropriate, so I have removed them. The Original Research tag was added in August 2009 and, looking at the discussions above, it seems that the main issue discussed on this talk page has been the references quoted in the article. I have, therefore, removed the general Article Issues tag and replaced it with a RefImprove tag. Chris1515 (talk) 16:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

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