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Tony Gregory

Tony Gregory (5 December 1947 – 2 January 2009) was an Irish independent politician, and a Teachta Dála (TD) for the Dublin Central constituency from 1982 to 2009.

Early life
Gregory was born in Ballybough on Dublin's Northside, the second child of Anthony Gregory and Ellen Gregory (née Judge). His mother, born in 1904 in Croghan, County Offaly, had moved to Dublin to work as a waitress, while his father, born in the North Strand area of Dublin, worked as a warehouseman in Dublin Port. His family originally lived in a one-room apartment in Charleville Street. The family applied to be housed by Dublin Corporation but were denied, with an official saying "come back when you have six [children]". The incident left an impression on Gregory, and he would refer to it in interviews later in life. The family was able later to move to a house in Sackville Gardens, near the Royal Canal, using money they had saved. Gregory won a Dublin Corporation scholarship to the Christian Brothers’ O'Connell School. He later went on to University College Dublin (UCD), where he received a Bachelor of Arts degree and later a Higher Diploma in Education, funding his degree from summer work at the Wall's ice cream factory in Acton, London. Initially working at Synge Street CBS, Gregory later taught at Coláiste Eoin, an Irish-language secondary school in Booterstown, where he taught history and French. His students both at Synge Street and Coláiste Eoin included John Crown, Colm Mac Eochaidh, Aengus Ó Snodaigh and Liam Ó Maonlaí.

Sinn Féin and the IRSP
He became involved in republican politics, joining Sinn Féin and the IRA in 1964. In UCD he helped found the UCD Republican Club, despite pressure from college authorities, and became involved with the Dublin Housing Action Committee. Within the party he was a supporter of Wicklow Republican Seamus Costello. Costello, who was a member of Wicklow County Council, emphasised involvement in local politics and was an opponent of abstentionism. Gregory sided with the Officials in the 1970 split within Sinn Féin. Despite having a promising future within the party, he resigned in 1972 citing frustration with ideological infighting in the party. Later, his mentor Costello —who had been expelled by Official Sinn Féin — approached him and asked him to join his new party, the Irish Republican Socialist Party. Gregory left the party after Costello's assassination in 1977, stating in a Hot Press interview, published after his death, that he had "agreed to join on paper, but had never got involved with the political organisation itself". He was briefly associated with the Socialist Labour Party.

Independent politician
Gregory contested the 1979 local elections for Dublin City Council as a "Dublin Community Independent" candidate. At the February 1982 general election he was elected to Dáil Éireann as an Independent TD.

Work as a TD
On his election in February 1982 he immediately achieved national prominence through the famous "Gregory Deal", which he negotiated with Fianna Fáil leader Charles Haughey. In return for supporting Haughey as Taoiseach, Gregory was guaranteed a massive cash injection for his inner-city Dublin constituency, an area beset by poverty and neglect.

The deal was witnessed by ITGWU leader Michael Mullen and all details were made public. The written agreement included commitments to nationalise a 27 acre site in Dublin Port and Clondalkin Paper Mills. A total of £4 million was to be allocated to employ 500 extra people in the inner city, while 3,746 jobs were to be created over three years. State funding would be provided to build 440 new houses in the constituency and another 1,600 in the rest of Dublin. The whole deal was worth an estimated £100 million at the time, in comparison to the £850,000 deal offered by Garret FitzGerald of Fine Gael. Although Gregory was reviled in certain quarters for effectively holding a government to ransom, his uncompromising commitment to the poor was widely admired. Fianna Fáil lost power at the November 1982 general election, and a lot of the promises made in the Gregory Deal were not implemented by the incoming Fine Gael-Labour Party coalition.

He was involved in the 1980s in tackling Dublin's growing drug problem. Heroin had largely been introduced to Dublin by the Dunne criminal group, based in Crumlin, in the late 1970s. In 1982 a report revealed that 10% of 15- to 24-year-olds had used heroin at least once in the north inner city. The spread of heroin use also led to a sharp increase in petty crime. Gregory confronted the government's handling of the problem as well as senior Gardaí, for what he saw as their inadequate response to the problem. He co-ordinated with the Concerned Parents Against Drugs group in 1986, who protested and highlighted the activities of local drug dealers, and defended the group against accusations by government Ministers Michael Noonan and Barry Desmond that it was a front for the Provisional IRA. During a public meeting held by the group, Gregory told Charlie Dunne, an associate of the Dunne criminal group, that "If you had any decency left in you, you'd walk straight into the Liffey and drown yourself". Gregory however believed that the solution to the problem was multi-faceted and worked on a number of policy level efforts across policing, service co-ordination and rehabilitation of addicts. In 1995 in an article in The Irish Times, he proposed what would later turn into the Criminal Assets Bureau which was set up in 1996, catalysed by the death of journalist Veronica Guerin. His role in its development would be acknowledged later by the then Minister of Justice Nora Owen.

He also advocated for Dublin's street traders. After attending a sit-down protest with Sinn Féin Councillor Christy Burke, and future Labour Party TD Joe Costello on Dublin's O'Connell Street in defence of a street trader; he, Burke and four others were arrested and charged with obstruction and threatening behaviour. He spent two weeks in Mountjoy Prison after refusing to sign a bond to keep the peace.

Gregory remained a TD from 1982 and, although he never held a government position, remained one of the country's most recognised Dáil deputies. He always refused to wear a tie in the Dáil chamber stating that many of his constituents could not afford them.

Death
He died on 2 January 2009, aged 61, following a long battle with cancer. Following his death, tributes poured in from politicians from every party, recognising his contribution to Dublin's north inner city. During his funeral, politicians from the Labour Party, Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael were told that although they spoke highly of Gregory following his death, during his time in the Dáil he had been excluded by many of them and that they were not to use his funeral as a "photo opportunity". He was buried on 7 January, with the Socialist Party's Joe Higgins delivering the graveside oration.

By-election
Colleagues of Tony Gregory supported his election agent, Dublin City Councillor Maureen O'Sullivan at the Dublin Central by-election in June 2009. O'Sullivan won the subsequent by-election.

Biography
Tony Gregory: The Biography of a True Irish Political Legend was published in 2011. The biography was written by Robbie Gilligan, and launched by Diarmaid Ferriter. Gregory's brother criticised the launch event as he was not able to speak at it.

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Neves, São Tomé and Príncipe

Neves is a town on the north west coast of São Tomé Island in São Tomé and Príncipe. It is the seat of the Lembá District. Its population is 10,068 (2012).

Geographical location
The main subdivisions of Neves are Benga, Rosema, Água Tomá, Bom Sucesso and Praia de Ponta Figo. It is the site of a deep-water port that was jointly constructed with Nigeria. Neves is home to some of the few industrial facilities on the island, such as a brewery and a power plant fueled by natural gas and solar energy. The plant was built by a consortium from Angola in 2014. It is capable of producing 30 megawatts of gas power and an additional 5 megawatts of solar power.

As part of a Joint Development Zone between the two countries, São Tomé and Príncipe and Nigeria agreed in 2012 to construct a fuel port in Neves. The 400 m jetty extending off the coast is able to accommodate two Panamax-sized vessels simultaneously, which could be tied up at a depth of 20 m. The port was jointly organized by the two countries as part of the agreement. Funding was provided by the Nigerian government and by the Joint Development Authority Investment. Nigeria also provided the processing contract to construct the port. In return, the government of São Tomé and Príncipe provided the land used in construction and granted a tax holiday to the project's investors.

Sports
Neves is home to football club FC Neves, which plays in the São Tomé and Príncipe Championship, the top division of football in the country.

International relations
The Portuguese city of Porto has been a sister city of Neves since 1987.

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São João dos Angolares

São João dos Angolares is a small town on the east coast of São Tomé Island in São Tomé and Príncipe. It is the seat of Caué District. Its population is 3,605 (2012). The town lies 17 km southwest of Santana, 17 km northeast of Porto Alegre and 24 km southwest of the capital São Tomé. The Portuguese-based creole language Angolar (Ngola) is spoken in and around São João dos Angolares. The plantation complex Roça São João has been restored and is now a restaurant, hotel and arts centre. The town's football (soccer) club is UDRA (União Desportiva Rei Amador).

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Men in Black (song)

"Men in Black" is the debut solo single of American rapper and actor Will Smith from the 1997 film Men in Black, in which he also starred. The song was released by Columbia Records on June 3, 1997, as the lead single from both the soundtrack and Smith's debut solo album, Big Willie Style (1997), and it was Smith's first solo single following his work with DJ Jazzy Jeff.

The song is heard during the film's closing credits, and heavily samples "Forget Me Nots" by Patrice Rushen. Lyrically, Smith discusses the role, function, and duties of the Men in Black as the character Agent J, while Coko of the R&B group SWV provides the chorus and background vocals. "Men in Black" reached number one in several countries and won Smith a Grammy Award in 1998 for Best Rap Solo Performance.

Sample
"Men in Black" features a sample of, and a re-sung chorus from, "Forget Me Nots" by Patrice Rushen. The line "To help you to remember" is changed to "They won't let you remember", in reference to the memory-erasing "neuralyzer" devices used in the Men in Black film.

Release
Aside from appearing on the movie's soundtrack, "Men in Black" also appears on Smith's Columbia Records album Big Willie Style. "Men in Black" topped the charts in Australia, Belgium, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, New Zealand, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom. In Australia, Ireland, and the United Kingdom, "Men in Black" became Smith's second chart-topping song after "Boom! Shake the Room" in 1993, Smith's first solo chart-topping song, and Smith's first chart-topping song released under his real name. "Men in Black" did not chart on the Billboard Hot 100 because it was not released as a commercial single in the United States; at the time, only songs that were commercially released as singles were eligible, but it did top the airplay chart. The music video for the song also appears on the DVD The Will Smith Collection. It was also included in the album All Time Greatest Movie Songs, released by Sony in 1999. It was also featured after the end credits of the VHS release of "Men in Black". It was also covered by Forever the Sickest Kids for the compilation album Punk Goes Crunk & by Alvin and the Chipmunks for the album The A-Files: Alien Songs. An instrumental and short version of the song plays over the closing credits in Men in Black: The Series.

Critical reception
Larry Flick from Billboard wrote, "Remember when Will Smith was better known as a rapper? That seems like a lifetime ago, doesn't it? Well, he returns to music in excellent form on this lighthearted theme song from the soundtrack to his new movie of the same name. Smith has never been a hardcore lyricist, but he also never been anything less than clever, charming, and shrewdly aware of what the masses will dig. There's no doubt that this jam, which nicks its hook from Patrice Rushen's "Forget Me Nots", will be an outta-da-box smasheroo." Pan-European magazine Music & Media said that Smith builds his raps on the song by Rushen "in an instantly appealing way." A reviewer from Music Week rated the song three out of five, noting that "Smith raps some rather stodgy sci-fi stuff over Patrice Rushen's Forget Me Nots riff. It will be huge, like the film. And the video is a hoot."

Music video
Robert Caruso directed the music video for the song. It starts with a dark hallway lighting up. Tommy Lee Jones enters from around the corner and begins to explain in a voiceover the purpose of the Men in Black. Will Smith enters with the line: "And we dress in black." There is then a cut to what appears to be an alleyway, a steel box which looks a bit like a commercial refrigerator in the middle. The surface begins to deform and show a glowing light from within. The video then cuts to several scenes of Agents experimenting on alien organisms and technology, with Smith rapping into further detail of the operations of the Men in Black. It soon has him surrounded by MIB agents in a warehouse. In the middle of the dance routine, an alien (Mikey from the film) comes in and screams at Smith. Smith then leads the agents and the alien to do a modified Electric Slide, where the alien slips out in the middle.

After dancing along with the agents, he goes after the alien. The same glowing light from the beginning of the video is then seen in the drivers seat of an SUV with the two female Agents who were with Smith in the vehicle; they speed off just as Smith reaches it. Disappointed, he puts on his sunglasses and takes out a Neuralyzer, pointing it at the camera.

Two versions of the video were made alternating the flash. In one version of the video, the flash takes the viewer back to the empty hallway from the opening scene, effectively erasing the video's contents entirely as if ensuring the viewer doesn't remember what they saw in the video, while in the other, the flash produces a white screen. Just before the flash in both, Smith says, somewhat regretfully, "Sorry".

Australia

 * CD single
 * 1) "Men in Black" — 3:48
 * 2) "Men in Black" (Track Masters instrumental) — 3:48
 * 3) "Men in Black" (Track Masters a cappella) — 3:29
 * 4) "Some Cow Fonque (More Tea, Vicar?)" (by Buckshot LeFonque) — 5:10

Europe

 * CD single
 * 1) "Men in Black" (album version) — 3:48
 * 2) "Men in Black" (MIB master mix) — 3:40

 * Maxi-CD single
 * 1) "Men in Black" (album version) — 3:48
 * 2) "Men in Black" (MIB master mix) — 3:40
 * 3) "Men in Black" (Track Masters instrumental) — 3:48
 * This format was also released in South Africa.

UK

 * CD1
 * 1) "Men in Black" (album version)
 * 2) "Men in Black" (instrumental)
 * 3) "M.I.B. Main Theme"
 * 4) "Men in Black" (the snippets)

 * CD2
 * 1) "Men in Black" (album version)
 * 2) "Men in Black" (MIB master mix)
 * 3) "Men in Black" (alternate mix)
 * 4) "Dah Dee Dah (Sexy Thing)" (by Alicia Keys)

Japan

 * Maxi-CD single
 * 1) "Men in Black" (album version) — 3:48
 * 2) "Men in Black" (Track Masters instrumental) — 3:48
 * 3) "Men in Black" (Track Masters a cappella) — 3:29
 * 4) "Men in Black" (MIB master mix) — 3:40

Personnel

 * Patrice Rushen, Terry McFadden, Will Smith – writers, composers
 * Coko – backing vocals
 * Matthew Wishart – clarinet, trombone
 * Poke and Tone – drum programming, producer
 * Commissioner Gordon, Tony Maserati – mixing
 * John Shriver – recording
 * Paul Griffin – animation director for "Mikey" (video)
 * Rob Chiarelli - recording engineer & remixer

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Hello, I think Wikipedia and Wiki projects are great. Many people don’t have much money and providing free good content is important and a noble cause. I have enjoyed Wikipedia for some time and I have become a contributor.

I enjoy many things including science, video games, and writing.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lstaste

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:13, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Band vanity. Zero google hits as far as I can tell. Xezbeth 17:38, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. No evidence that it passes the Notability and Music Guidelines. Zzyzx11 | Talk 22:46, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable, band vanity. Megan1967 10:25, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Everyking 02:52, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.

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Bruiser

Bruiser may refer to:

Music

 * The Bruisers, musical pioneers of the Punk/Oi! genre
 * Bruiser, an indie rock trio that features ex-Local H drummer Joe Daniels
 * Bruiser (album), a 2011 album by The Duke Spirit

Film and television

 * The Bruiser, a 1916 American drama film
 * Bruiser (2000 film), a motion picture directed by George A. Romero
 * Bruiser (2022 film), a film starring Trevante Rhodes
 * Bruiser (TV series), a BBC television series

Nickname or ring name

 * Bru McCoy, American football player
 * Bruiser Flint (born 1965), American collegiate men's basketball head coach
 * Bruiser Kinard (1914–1985), American football player nicknamed "Bruiser", member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame
 * Bruiser Brody, ring name of former American professional wrestler Frank Donald Goodish (1946-1988)
 * Bob Sweetan (born 1940), American retired professional wrestler, nicknamed "Bruiser", and sex offender
 * Bruiser Bedlam, a ring name of American professional wrestler Ion Croitoru (born 1965)
 * The British Bruisers, a former English professional wrestling tag team
 * Bruiser Costa, a professional wrestler from All-Star Wrestling
 * Bruiser, a professional wrestler from the United States Wrestling Association

Fictional characters

 * Molly Hayes, briefly known as Bruiser, a Marvel Comics character in the series Runaways
 * Bruiser Khang, in the video game Tales of Destiny
 * Bruiser, a large demonic enemy in the video game expansion pack Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil
 * Nick and Rick Bruiser, the final two opponents in Super NES video game Super Punch-Out!!
 * Bruiser, Elle Woods' chihuahua in the Legally Blonde movies
 * The Bruisers, fictional neighbors in the animated TV series Mr. Bean

Other uses

 * HMS Bruiser, various British Royal Navy warships
 * Bruiser (bull), #32Y, a World Champion bucking bull
 * Chicago Bruisers, a former Arena Football League team (1987-1989)
 * Bruiser (Pillow Pal), a Pillow Pal dog made by Ty, Inc.
 * Bruiser and Marigold, costumed mascots for the Baylor University Bears

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Juliet Bravo

Juliet Bravo is a British television police procedural drama series, first broadcast on 30 August 1980, that ran for six series and a total of 88 episodes on BBC1. The theme of the series concerned a female police inspector who took over control of a police station in the fictional town of Hartley in Lancashire. The lead role of Inspector Jean Darblay was played by Stephanie Turner in series 1 to 3, but in series 4 to 6 she was replaced by Anna Carteret for the role of Inspector Kate Longton. Carteret remained with the series until its demise in 1985.

The series was devised by Ian Kennedy Martin, who had already enjoyed success with another police drama series, The Sweeney. Although the genre of police dramas was well-established on British television by 1980, Juliet Bravo and London Weekend Television's The Gentle Touch, which started a few months earlier, were the first series that saw female officers as lead characters, having to fight both crime and the prejudice of male colleagues. Kennedy Martin based the character of Jean Darblay on a real female police inspector, Wynne Darwin.

UKTV’s Drama channel reran all six series in 2018 and again in early 2019. The series had previously been repeated in its entirety on the cable and satellite channel UK Gold from the launch in 1992 until 2001.

Filming locations
Studio scenes for the first two series were recorded at BBC Television Centre, Wood Lane in London. From the third series onward, studio scenes were recorded at the BBC's Pebble Mill Studios in Birmingham. Exterior scenes were filmed in the Lancashire towns of Colne, Bacup, Accrington, Nelson, Burnley, Blackburn, Simonstone and Read. Other locations around east Lancashire, West Yorkshire such as Todmorden and the Black Country (Tipton and Dudley) were also used. The exterior of Hartley Police Station seen throughout the entire series run was in fact the real-life police station on Bank Street in the town of Bacup. When the station closed in 2011, a campaign was mounted by fans of the series to save it from demolition and turn it into a museum dedicated to the series' legacy. In 2012 it was purchased by a local developer and turned into 6 new flats.

Merchandise
All six series of Juliet Bravo have been released on DVD by 2 | Entertain/Cinema Club. Series 1 was released on 12 September 2005. Series 2 was released on 14 November 2005. Series 3 was released on 20 February 2006. Series 4 was released on 22 May 2006. Series 5 was released on 14 August 2006. Series 6 remained unreleased for over two years after the release of Series 5, until a petition created by fans of the series was delivered to 2|Entertain, demanding the sixth and final series be released on DVD. Series 6 was eventually released on 29 September 2008. Series 1 & 2 have also both been released on Region 4 DVD in Australia.

Aside from the DVD releases, the BBC licensed three TV tie-in novelisations of the show. These were authored by Mollie Hardwick. The first two were published by Pan Books. Juliet Bravo 1 (1980) was a novelisation of the first series episodes Shot Gun, Fraudulently Uttered, The Draughtsman, The Runner and Family Unit. Juliet Bravo 2 (1980) was a novelisation of the first series episodes Cages, The One Who Got Away, Relief and The Anastasia Syndrome. A third novel was published by BBC Books. Calling Juliet Bravo: New Arrivals (1981) was a novelisation of the second series episode New Arrivals and the third series episode Cause For Complaint.

A script book, containing five TV scripts from the first series compiled by Alison Leake, was issued by Longman Imprint Books in February 1983. The theme tune was also released on 7-inch vinyl via BBC Records in 1980.

Main

 * Stephanie Turner as Inspector Jean Darblay (Series 1–3)
 * Anna Carteret as Inspector Kate Longton (Series 4–6)
 * David Ellison as Sergeant Joseph Beck
 * Noel Collins as Sergeant George Parrish
 * David Hargreaves as Tom Darblay (Series 1–3)
 * Tony Caunter as DCI Jim Logan (Series 1–3)
 * Edward Peel as DCI Mark Perrin (Series 4–6)
 * Mark Drewry as PC Roland Bentley (Series 1)
 * Gerard Kelly as PC David Gallagher (Series 2)
 * David Straun as PC Martin Helmshore (Series 3)
 * C.J. Allen as PC Brian Kelleher (Series 4–6)
 * Mark Botham as PC Danny Sparks (Series 4–6)
 * Tom Georgeson as John Holden (Series 4)

Recurring

 * John Ringham as Divisional Supt. Lake (Series 1)
 * Geoffrey Larder as DS Dave Melchett (Series 1)
 * Wendy Allnutt as Jennie Randall (Series 1)
 * Martyn Hesford as PC Ian Skelton (Series 1–2)
 * James Grout as Divisional Supt. Albert Hallam (Series 2)
 * Lloyd McGuire as DS Bernie Duckworth (Series 2 & 4)
 * David Gillies as PC Peter Sims (Series 3)
 * Sebastian Abineri as DS Dick Maltby (Series 4–6)
 * Julie Foulds as WPC Sheila Saunders (Series 6)

Guest appearances
A number of famous names, either of the time or of the future, appeared in the show. They included: David Ryall, Kevin Whately, Eric Richard, Jeff Rawle, Jean Boht, Patricia Hayes, Peter Jeffrey, Peter Martin, Brenda Fricker, David Daker, Andrew Burt, Frances White, Malcolm Terris, Joe Gladwin, Sara Sugarman, Tenniel Evans, Nadim Sawalha, Jack Smethurst, John Savident, William Gaunt, Colin Baker, Kenneth Waller, Rita May, Stephen Yardley, John Woodvine, Stephen McGann, Leslie Schofield, Alan Parnaby, Shirley Stelfox, Maggie Ollerenshaw, John Quarmby, Neil Morrissey, Del Henney, Iain Cuthbertson, Leslie Sands, Hilda Braid, Melanie Hill, John Challis, Paul Chapman, Simon Williams, Christopher Ettridge, George Irving, Bill Wallis, Carolyn Pickles, Jonathan Newth, Kenneth Cope, Sally Whittaker, Karl Howman, Diana Coupland, Martin Jarvis, Rosalind Ayres, Yvette Fielding, Bert Parnaby, Robert Glenister, Mona Hammond, Steve Hodson, Danny O'Dea and Bernard Kay, Patsy Rowlands, Kenneth Farrington

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São Tomé Island

São Tomé Island, at 854 km2, is the largest island of São Tomé and Príncipe and is home in May 2018 to about 193,380 or 96% of the nation's population. The island is divided into six districts. It is located 2 km (1¼ miles) north of the Equator.

Geography

São Tomé Island is about 48 km long (north-south) by 32 km wide (east-west). It rises to 2,024 m at Pico de São Tomé and includes the capital city, São Tomé, on the northeast coast. The nearest city on mainland Africa is the port city of Port Gentil in Gabon located 240 km to the east.

The island is surrounded by a number of small islands, including Ilhéu das Rolas, Ilhéu das Cabras and Ilhéu Gabado.

Languages
The main language is Portuguese, but there are many speakers of Forro and Angolar (Ngola), two Portuguese-based creole languages. The name "São Tomé" is Portuguese for Saint Thomas.

Geology
The entire island of São Tomé is a massive shield volcano that rises from the floor of the Atlantic Ocean, over 3000 m below sea level. It formed along the Cameroon line, a line of volcanoes extending from Cameroon southwest into the Atlantic Ocean. Most of the lava erupted on São Tomé over the last million years has been basalt. The youngest dated rock on the island is about 100,000 years old, but numerous more recent cinder cones are found on the southeast side of the island.

Environment and economy
The higher slopes of the island are forested and form part of the Parque Natural Obô de São Tomé, but agriculture is important near the north and east coasts. The chief exports are cocoa, coffee, copra, and palm products, while there is also a fishing industry.

Large reserves of oil are in the ocean between Nigeria and São Tomé. The discovery has been lamented by some as endangering the nation's political stability and natural environment. In response to these concerns the government of São Tomé and Príncipe has drawn up legislation in an attempt to ensure the efficient and equitable use of oil revenues over time.

Birds
The island has a total of 63 regular bird species, plus an additional 36 vagrant and unconfirmed species. Of these, 19 are endemic and 3 near endemic; in addition, the local subspecies of olive ibis (Bostrychia olivacea bocagei) and maroon pigeon (Columba thomensis) are endemic and considered critically endangered. Six species are considered vulnerable, and two critically endangered (São Tomé fiscal and São Tomé grosbeak).

Administrative divisions
São Tomé is divided into the following six districts (seat within brackets):
 * 1) Água Grande (São Tomé)
 * 2) Cantagalo (Santana)
 * 3) Caué (São João dos Angolares)
 * 4) Lembá (Neves)
 * 5) Lobata (Guadalupe)
 * 6) Mé-Zóchi (Trindade)

Towns and villages
Villages on the island include:

 * Agua-Coco
 * Agua Ize
 * Alice
 * Alto Douro
 * Andrade
 * Bela Vista
 * Blublu
 * Bom Successo
 * Buenos Aires
 * Dona Augusta
 * Dona Eugenia
 * Enjale
 * Formiga
 * General Fonseco
 * Graça
 * Granja
 * Guadalupe
 * Guegue Norte
 * Henrique
 * Java
 * Lemos
 * Mbombo
 * Mbondi
 * Monte Café
 * Monte Herminios
 * Monte Rosa
 * Neves
 * Nova Olinda
 * Nzumbi
 * Plato Café
 * Ponta Figo
 * Portinho
 * Porto Alegre
 * Preserverança
 * Quimpo
 * Ribeira Afonso
 * Santa Catarina
 * Santa Clotilde
 * Santa Cruz
 * Santa Josefina
 * Santana
 * Santo António
 * São João dos Angolares
 * São José
 * São Tomé
 * Saudade
 * Trindade
 * Ubabundo

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Talk:Shebang

Boring Unix/Linux wars
It's unfortunate whenever an article gets caught up in the Unix/Linux flamewars (as this article seems to be trending). We've now actually gone through several iterations of whether bash belongs to Unix, Linux, or both. Personally, because bytes are cheap, I preferred the version that included both and let the reader choose which link to follow, but someone else changed that recently.

What does everyone else think? Should bash be followed by just Unix, just Linux, or both?

Atlant 17:41, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Neither. Either alone is wrong (given that bash runs on both Unices and Linux), and it's unnecessary for this qualification, or indeed the entire phrase, to even be here here at all. (I just moved the text over from file format verbatim.)  There's no similar note about the Perl script in the subsequent example.  And, indeed, from the specific point of view of shebang, scripts and batch files are not equivalent.  Uncle G 18:16, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)

Perl is somewhat different in that it would be viewed by most users as a "full-fledged programming language" (or "scripting language", depending upon your tastes). bash, by comparison, would probably be viewed as a shell first and only secondarily as a programming language. Also, Perl runs everywhere including many implementations that are decidedly non-Unix/non-Linux whereas bash exists primarily in the Unix/Linux world. So the lack of qualifications on Perl doesn't indicate much to me as to how we should treat bash.

Atlant 18:44, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

perl is not usually in /bin rather /usr/bin/perl, so I've changed it. The article also makes it sound like perl is a shell like the other shells mentioned. As to the bash question, as its the default on OSX now its definitly not Linux only. Htaccess
 * bash was also default on BeOS -before- it was guaranteed to be the default on a Linux box. I remember Linux distros with tcsh as default in the early days, for instance. So its not Linux only. I also have it run, as a later option, as default on my IRIX and NetBSD machines, and its an extremely portable programme. --Kiand 20:16, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

space
Note that (as pointed out in the book "Classic Shell Scripting" by Robbins and Beebe) that some [admitedly obscure] systems look for "#! /" (pound, bang, space, slash) to trigger invocation of programs. And no extant system is bothered by a space after the bang. So for portability you'd want for an sh invocation you'd really want to keep user options to the script from being taken as options to sh. Nahaj 17:44, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
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Shebang etymology
The links for the etymology of Shebang from char-a-banc are very questionable. The first link states "other sources suggest a derivation from French char-a-banc..." but don't list these sources. The second link doesn't mention char-a-banc. Without sources for the proposed etymology, the "suspected origination" in the article should be removed. 68.195.209.181 03:48, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

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Mitsubishi FTO

The Mitsubishi FTO is a front mid-engined, front-wheel drive coupe produced by Mitsubishi Motors between 1994 and 2000. Originally planned exclusively for the Japanese domestic market, its popularity as a grey market import to the United Kingdom, Ireland, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Australia and New Zealand led to eventual limited distribution through Mitsubishi's official dealers in those regions at the tail-end of production. Upon its debut it won the Car of the Year Japan award for 1994–95, commemorated by a Limited Edition of the FTO GPX model.

FTO stands for "Fresh Touring Origination". The name recalls the Galant FTO coupé of 1971, one of the company's first sports cars.

Backstory: The Galant FTO (January 1971-1975)

Prior to the arrival of the 1994 front-wheel drive FTO, which inherited the "FTO" tag, was the Mitsubishi Galant Coupé FTO. A rear-wheel-drive coupe produced by Japanese automaker Mitsubishi Motors from November 1971 to March 1975.[1] "FTO" was meant to stand for Fresco Turismo Omologato, in a fine example of Japanese Italian (or "Fresh Touring Origination" in English). This compact Coupé FTO can effectively be seen as a replacement for the earlier Mitsubishi Colt 11-F Super Sports.

The Galant FTO was first introduced with an 86 or 95 PS (63 or 70 kW) 1378 cc 4G41 "Neptune" engine, until it was replaced via a redesign in February 1973 by a brace of 1597 cc 4G32 "Saturn" power plants - offering either 100 PS (74 kW), or 110 PS (81 kW), depending on the state of tune. There was also a 1439 cc Saturn engine, offering 92 PS (68 kW). In October 1973 there was a minor facelift and the lineup was restricted to four versions, with the EL, the GS and the four-speed SL versions cancelled. Production gradually came to an end in August 1975, after the introduction in March that year of the more staid Lancer Celeste.

The New FTO Models
In 1994 a whole new FTO coupé concept was created. The only body style was a 2-door coupé, and all FTOs were front wheel drive. Either an inline-four or a transversely mounted V6 engine was available, mated to either a 5-speed manual or the INVECS-II automatic transmission. Earlier (pre-facelift) auto models had a four-speed version, whilst most facelift [1997-2000] auto versions had a five-speed. The most recognizable exterior styling change during 1997 was, in simple terms, to the front bumper - which went from two air intakes to a single deeper intake, restyled front lip and indicator/fog lighting arrangement. On the pre-facelift models there exists a minor difference in the lower intake - on some earlier models there are two blanking plates on either side, thus reducing the size of the aperture. (These can be seen, either side of the number plate, in the image of the yellow GPX Limited Edition below).

By 2000, in the MMC Company Report, the now phased out FTO was simply described as "the little brother of the GTO, this sports coupe gives full expression to MMC's fun-to-drive philosophy with well-balanced proportions wrapped in dynamic and aggressive styling..." Regarding the FTO acronym, the "Series Name Derivations" section of the Report describes the model as "FTO - Fresh Touring Origination: a touring model overflowing with freshness, youthfulness and originality".

October 1994–February 1997 (Pre-Facelift)
The inline-engined GS was the base model in the FTO range, with 14" wheels and automatic climate control. The rear spoiler was only an Option to the Original Equipment on both the GS and the GR. The larger-engined V6 GR also had auto-aircon and 15" wheels. Completing the range was the V6 MIVEC-engined GPX with 16" alloy wheels, sporting a rear spoiler and side air dams as standard. All three of these models gained various refinements prior to the introduction of the facelift versions and many models were purchased fitted with a number of original options that were available, such as ABS, traction control and a passenger air bag.

Prior to the introduction of the facelift models a Mivec GP model was introduced in 1996, together with a later "semi-race spec" Nakaya-Tune dealer package. The "GP Special" (Denoted by the suffix '2' to the initial GP Model Code), with 5-sp manual or 4-sp auto, was also promoted by dealership as a GP versionR introduction, although yet to gain the later GPvR body styling details, such as Facelift front and Aero Spoiler.

The first appearance of the Mitsubishi-designed INVECS-II automatic "tiptronic-style" transmission, based upon similar Porsche technology, was at the launch of this FTO model range. The auto models are, therefore, sometimes referred to as "Tip" or "Tiptronic" FTOs. Driven manually, the box "learns" the driver's style for when motoring in auto mode. The four-speed and five-speed automatic gearboxes use different gear ratios and top speeds differ accordingly.

The power plant of each model can be quickly identified in the engine bay, with the oil cap on the right of the engine cover for the 2.0 DOHC V6 and on the left for the 1.8 SOHC and 2.0 DOHC MIVEC V6. On MIVEC-engined models the front brake calipers are larger, with twin-piston operation, compared to the single-piston units of the other models. The rear single-piston calipers are common across the range. (Some owners may have updated the rear units with those of the larger piston, used on the Evo I/II/III and/or the front units with the larger calipers as used on the GTO + another popular brake mod is using EVO4 front caliper brackets on a GPX with the standard caliper coupled with 294mm EVO4 Discs)

GPX Limited Edition & GR Limited Edition

In commemoration of its win at the Car of the Year Japan awards in 1994, Mitsubishi produced a Limited Edition of their GPX model. This model was finished in a unique dandelion yellow paint scheme with "'94–95 Japan Car of the Year" emblems on the car's C-pillar. It was also installed with a rear screen wash/wiper and limited slip differential as standard. The LSD units are manual, code: F5M42-2-V7A2 & auto, code: F4A42-1-W7A5. Only 207 GPX Limited Edition models were produced during April 1995, 20 manuals and 187 autos. It is usually referred to, via Car Of The Year acronym, as the FTO "COTY".

Between April and September 1995 a GR Limited Edition was also produced, following up on the kudos of the COTY award win and to satisfy this lower tier sector of the FTO v6 market. The GR LE was only available in Pyrenees Black, Passion Red or Steel Silver.

Nakaya-Tune FTO Package
The Nakaya-Tune was a limited edition pre-facelift FTO dealership package, introduced prior to the "facelift" FTO launch. This branded tuning package related to Akihiko Nakaya, one of the MCC's racing personalities and driver of a Taeivon Trampio FTO in the All-Japan Grand Touring Car Championship in 1998–1999.

Advertising material of the time (a single-sided full-color leaflet) shows it to be available for the V6-engined GPX, GP and GR models and limited to 300 units. This option package provided: a Purofu brand stainless steel sports silencer, upgraded brake pads, a carbon fibre lip spoiler and upgraded suspension with Öhlins shock absorbers. The suspension became lowered by 35 mm. As an after-market dealer option item, no chassis reference can be given for the three specific models for which it was available. Thus, how many were actually fitted "at point-of-sale" is therefore unclear and may only be evidenced within the dealership sale document of the time.

February 1997–July 2000 (Facelift Models)

In February 1997 the FTO model range was given a facelift with a new front bumper arrangement, usually referred to by FTO enthusiasts as "facelift" models. The original two air intakes became one large single intake, blended into a full width forward-facing front splitter. The two supplementary fog and indicator paired units became four separate circular lights, each recessed into the new bumper. The headlamp internals were also changed to incorporate the vehicle's sidelights, but their external design remained. An HID Option was also made available (which was fitted into a deeper headlamp housing than the halogen).

The rear spoiler also underwent a redesign to an aero wing [aka 'B-wing'], which was phased in during 1997 as standard equipment on some models, such as the GP Version R. After its late introduction in the pre-facelift era, the now facelifted GP was given a full styling make-over with a "Version R" tag - heralding a further external styling feature with this new large spoiler (also fitted as standard on both the later Aero Series GPvR and GX models, or as an OE option for other extant models).

The GP Version R model was produced in Scotia White, Passion Red or Pyrenées Black only. It featured HID headlamps; Black rear seats, with color-coded "FTO" monogrammed front seats - Blue/with Scotia White body color, Black/with Passion Red body color or Red/with Pyrenées Black body color; uprated suspension - 20 mm front anti roll bar instead of 17 mm and a 20 mm rear anti roll bar rather than 18 mm; limited slip differential and the redesigned rear aero spoiler. A "Version R" decal also features on the two spoiler side wings and on the nearside of the front lip. As this model was lightweight, items such as side skirts, front fog lights, climate control, electric folding mirrors and sound insulation were left out. The later VersionR Aero and GX Sports Package Aero models feature an "Aero Series" decal on the offside rear of the boot lid.

A further refinement to the facelift range was via the two GX models, with a 3 mm wider bore in the throttle body (increased from 60 mm to 63 mm and mated to the plenum bore), helping to provide the additional 10 PS over the earlier GR model engine. Whilst the GR model continued to offer only 4-speed auto and 5-speed manual into the "facelift" era, the GX Sport and GX Sport Aero upgrade came either as 5-speed manual or 5-speed auto. On the GS and GR models aircon operation became manual from Feb 1997.

The LSD option, found standard on the pre-facelift GPX Limited Edition, was of a viscous type. However, by 1997 this option for the facelift models, found standard on the GP Version R, was similar to that of a Torsen type.

End of production
In July 2000 new side impact safety standards were to take effect in Japan. With the FTO sales moving at an ever slower pace, it was deemed not cost effective to update the car and it was thus discontinued, along with its bigger stablemate the GTO.

Pre-facelift vs Facelift. Interchanging the pre-facelift and the facelift bumper unit is a relatively simple matter and, as the latter version models have become write-offs over the years, there are many pre-facelift models now on the road that are sporting newer facelift bumpers. Future purchasers of an FTO should be aware of this. A simple check of the VIN Plate details, or the period of manufacture to be found on the seat-belt tags, should resolve any uncertainty as to the origin of the model-build. Apart from body styling, there are other less apparent differences in the facelift models, including an uprated ECU and also distinct variations to the drive shaft units across the range such as 25 or 27-spline shafts and CV cup variants, as well as fitment for ABS or non-ABS shafts and bearings for same.

Electric FTO (1999)
An experimental electric version of the FTO was produced (called the FTOEV), utilizing high-performance lithium-ion batteries, and set a record when it covered 2000 km in 24 hours in December 1999.

Awards
The FTO won the Car of the Year Japan award for 1994–95 upon its debut, awarded in December 1994. It was also voted Best Used Sports Car at the British Auto Trader Awards in November 2007.

A Team Taeivon Ralliart FTO, driven by Takahiko Hara and Akihiko Nakaya, also appeared in the top five of the GT300 Class in the 1998 JGTC season

Promo Video (Pre-facelift)
Japanese promotional footage of the early FTO was also released in 1995 This has some helpful graphics of the FTO features found on the GR Sports (a Steel Silver model) and a GPX (a Passion Red model).

Top Gear (Facelift)
Just prior to its demise, the FTO became an official import to UK, available from Mitsubishi dealerships. A review of the FTO facelift model in this period was also given on TV's "Top Gear" by Vicki Butler-Henderson.

FTO - Europe's fastest FWD (2014)
Since 2009 the highly modified FTO of owner/driver Richard Batty has consistently popped up in British drag race runoff results through the years. In 2014 Batty finally gained a new European FWD Record with 8.859 at 174.59 mph in his 1051 hp EVO-engined FTO.

Options
During the relatively short production period of the FTO there were original equipment catalogues of a host of options made available. Many items were cosmetic in nature, such as stickers or chromed goods, although more substantial styling pieces such as side skirts and spoilers were also available. Practical items such as a passenger airbag, installed in the dashboard above the glovebox, or ski-racks were also listed. There were also special 15 and 16 inch PIAA alloy wheels. Strut braces, as found standard on the GP VersionR for example, and machine-stamped Ralliart was also available via the Mitsubishi association with the Ralliart franchise.

The latter company also carried out modifications to many FTOs during the period in which they were imported to the UK via that company, based at King Street in Dudley. These included installation of an aftermarket rear fog-light and its illuminated dashboard switch to meet UK legislation (Not OEM, or a requirement in Japan). The Company may also have fitted an English text version of fuse box cover in the engine bay, and/or a RalliArt oil cap.

Anti-lock braking system (ABS) and Traction control system (TCS) (referred to as TCL on FTOs) can also be found as factory-fitted options on some earlier models such as the sports GX model. An easy-visual check for fitment of ABS to an FTO is to look in the engine bay - an alloy block, with six brake pipes emerging, will be present behind the battery and down against the bulkhead. ABS was standard equipment on facelift models.

The base GS and GR models came without a rear spoiler, which was an OEM Option. The only company now stocking numerous parts for these cars is www.viamoto.co.uk.

Annual production
Total FTO model production by year is as follows:

These are Production dates. Whilst some models may have been produced on the production line to Customer pre-order specifications, the majority would not instantly be purchased, registered and "on the road". For example, an FTO first registered in Japan in 2001 will therefore be at least a year old (from the last Production Year of 2000). If that used vehicle is then exported and sold in the UK in say 2003, then the DVLA "first registered" date is very likely to be 2003.

Chassis Numbering
Whilst the month/year date on seat belt tags can assist in clarifying a production date when purchasing a used FTO, the first three digits of the Chassis number on the FTO VIN plate (located on the engine bay baulk-head, e.g. E-DE3A XXXXXXX whereX is a chassis number) will certainly provide the actual manufacturing year:

000 = 1994/1995; 010 = 1995/1996; 020 = 1997; 030 = 1998 etc.

Model Codes
The model code, usually consisting of four digits and stamped on the VIN plate (i.e. HNUE), can be read left-to-right as follows:

Body Style: H = 2 door coupe

Transmission: N = 5-speed manual / R = 4-speed auto / Y = 5-speed auto

Model Type: U = GS model / H = GR model / G = GPX model / X = GX model / F = GP model

Engine: E = SOHC EFI / M = DOHC EFI / H = DOHC EFI MIVEC

(Numeric suffixes to these four digits generally indicate later model build changes)

A DE2A prefix refers to the 1.8 4G93 16-valve engine. A DE3A prefix refers to 2.0 6A12 engine.

Total production by transmission type
The build quantity per 5-speed manual, 4-speed auto and 5-speed auto models.

Recalls
Whilst Mitsubishi was given some media attention in 2004 regarding various vehicle defects, the FTO had four relatively minor defects requiring manufacturer recalls in its history - three of which were in 2004, some four years after production ceased.

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Talk:DVD player

I'd just like to say that whoever wrote this article knew what they were talking about.168.170.46.5 17:43, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

IDE motherboard Interface?
What is the IEE standard for 11-pin interface on the motherboard? I have checked my DVD players, one has 9-pin, & the other a 10-pin interface. Seems to be perpreitary IDE interface for programming, but would like further information on it. Thank You.

MP3 DVD
Could anyone help me by informing how to copy lots of MP3 songs in a DVD and make it play on a DVD Player (viz. Sony, LG, etc..)

I have copied the MP3 files using the COPY DATA mode on PC, but this DVD did not play on the Sony DVD player. Narayan.shanbhag 14:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

article picture
"A DVD player is a device that plays discs produced under both [emphasis mine] the DVD Video and [emphasis mine] DVD Audio technical standards, two different and incompatible standards."

A disc cannot be produced under both standards if they are incompatible. I think it was meant to say "either"; specifically:

"A DVD player is a device that plays discs produced under either [emphasis mine] the DVD Video or [emphasis mine] DVD Audio technical standards, two different and incompatible standards."

I've changed the article to the second version, change it back if I'm wrong - with an explanation here, please. - Xandercorp  18:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Sources?
The article has no sources list at all. Listing something like the $20 license fee without citations is really bad.

And invented 1822? :)

Error-correction and/or dirty DVD-media
I'm finding large differences in the quality of the error-handling of players, in the presence of known dirt and/or scratches on e.g. a movie-DVD. [I've got a Pioneer player which is crap, in that it bounces out totally on such errors (and doesn't seem to remember where you were, so then when you press play/continue, it restarts at the BEGINNING of the movie). In contrast, I've got a Sony player which just pauses a lot when hitting the SAME scratches on the SAME movie-DVD, but it hangs in there after some jerks and pauses, so you never lose you place in the movie, so I LIKE that error-behavior MUCH better. [The Sony is also capable of saying ' The disk is dirty' on another movie-DVD, which prevents you from showing it. I don't have a disk-cleaner, so I don't know if that could fix the issue.]

That said, don't consider this a recommendation, in general, of one brand over another, as your experience may differ WIDELY from mine, based on exact models, etc, etc.

What I'd like to see discussed (somewhere) is whether firmware in any of these DVD-players is ever upgradable (e.g. like it is on most all $50 wifi-routers!)

Also, I'd like some discussion on whether dirt and/or scratches can be lessened or eliminated using any of the various DVD-MEDIA-cleaners. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarasotaslim (talk • contribs) 18:11, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Clean up and modernization of article
The article needs to be cleaned up and some of the language made more current. I did a little of this work in a series of edits:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DVD_player&type=revision&diff=927920449&oldid=927535845

Those edits were reverted without explanation. I don't care whether it's cleaned up in those diffs or through other edits, but the article is growing out of date.

Also, reverts should include a "valid and informative explanation including, if possible, a link to the Wikipedia principle you believe justifies the reversion." WP:REVEXP

Infoman99 (talk) 18:50, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for trying to help. So, as soon as I read "Early players usually outputted" I had a gag reflex. A lot of people already have a problem with turning the noun "output" into a verb, but then to write "outputted" I didn't bother to read further. The fact that you changed a when to another problem time statement without bounding it is another problem.
 * Please read WP:RS and use reliable sources for any content you're changing. I'll try to just fix your grammar rather than revert everything going forward. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:26, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I hear you. The problem is that the material is sufficiently out of date to make it effectively wrong, and at the moment I don't feel like spending 20 minutes digging up sources.
 * The current article is unsourced, except for two minor cites at the end.
 * WP:RS and WP:VERIFY require inline citations only for "material challenged or likely to be challenged, and for all quotations." If you believe the material I changed is wrong, you're of course free to challenge particular statements.
 * Also, while I don't care much about any particular word, "output" as a verb is accepted by the Collins unabridged, wiktionary, Lexico - Oxford Dictionaries, and American Heritage, among others, along with its past tense. Infoman99 (talk) 19:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * If you're fixing it, fix if. If you're doing what you did, you're not improving it. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:16, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Again, citations are not required by WP:RS except in the particular circumstances mentioned in the quoted material from the guideline. I'm updating the material. If you'd like to challenge a particular statement in the update, because you have a good faith belief that a specific assertion is incorrect, of course please feel free to do so. Infoman99 (talk) 20:26, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * No, they're required by WP:V and if content is challenged, it definitely is. Don't restore your poor-quality edit again, but feel free to correctly add content. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:37, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Your posting to my personal talk page violates the guidance of the WP:EDITWAR policy: "Avoid posting a generic warning template if you are actively involved in the edit war yourself".

As you have failed to abide by the quoted citations from WP:RS and WP:VERIFY, your complete reverts are increasingly concerning. If you have a good faith basis to question particular updated statements, please feel free to do so. Infoman99 (talk) 20:46, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:V makes it clear it's up to you to provide sources and since you're in an actual edit war, it's even more concerning. Since you're not willing to change your problem edits, simply restore them, I have provided all of my rationale above, including making up words, and your actions have been reported. We'll let an admin decide. Cheers. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:59, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

"Consumer entertainment device" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Consumer entertainment device. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 20 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 07:45, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

"HDTV quality DVD Player" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect HDTV quality DVD Player. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 20 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 07:53, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

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Siobhán McKenna

Siobhán McKenna (24 May 1922 – 16 November 1986) was an Irish stage and screen actress.

Early life
She was born Siobhán Giollamhuire Nic Cionnaith in Belfast in the newly created Northern Ireland into a Catholic and nationalist family. She grew up in Galway and in County Monaghan, speaking fluent Irish. Her father Eoghan McKenna (born Millstreet, County Cork, 1892) was Professor of Mathematics at University College, Galway (UCG). She was still in her teens when she became a member of an amateur Gaelic theatre group and made her stage debut at Galway's national Irish language theatre, An Taibhdhearc, in 1940.

Career
She is remembered for her English language performances at the Abbey Theatre in Dublin where she would eventually star in what many consider her finest role in the George Bernard Shaw play, Saint Joan.

While performing at the Abbey Theatre in the 1940s, she met actor Denis O'Dea, whom she married in 1946. Until 1970 they lived in Richmond Street South, Dublin. They had one child, a son: Donnacha O'Dea, who swam for Ireland at the 1968 Summer Olympics and later won a World Series of Poker bracelet in 1998.

In 1955 she created the role of Miss Madrigal in Enid Bagnold's The Chalk Garden on Broadway. In 1956, she appeared in the Cambridge Drama Festival production of Saint Joan at the Off-Broadway Phoenix Theatre. Theatre critic Elliot Norton called her performance the finest portrayal of Joan in memory. Siobhán McKenna's popularity earned her the cover of Life on 10 September 1956. In 1957, she joined the acting company of the Stratford Festival in Canada, playing Viola in Twelfth Night. She received a second Tony Best Actress nomination for her role in the 1958 play, The Rope Dancers, in which she starred with Art Carney and Joan Blondell. Although primarily a stage actress, McKenna appeared in a number of made-for-television films and dramas. She also appeared in several motion pictures such as King of Kings in 1961, as Virgin Mary. In 1964, she performed in Of Human Bondage and the following year in Doctor Zhivago. She also appeared in The Last Days of Pompeii, as Fortunata, wife of Gaius (Laurence Olivier).

In 1979 McKenna appeared in the title role of Roald Dahl's "The Landlady", an episode of the British TV series Tales of The Unexpected.

McKenna was awarded the Gold Medal of the Éire Society of Boston, for having "significantly fulfilled the ideals of the Éire Society, in particular, spreading awareness of the cultural achievements of the Irish people."

Death
Siobhán McKenna's final stage appearance came in the 1985 play Bailegangaire for the Druid Theatre Company. Despite surgery, she died of lung cancer the following year in Dublin, Ireland, at 64 years of age. Her body was buried at Rahoon Cemetery in County Galway. The inscription on the grave is in Irish.

In 1988, two years after her death, she was inducted into the American Theater Hall of Fame. The Siobhán McKenna Theatre, named in her honour, is in Cultúrlann McAdam Ó Fiaich in Belfast, the city of her birth.

The Siobhán McKenna Archive, documenting her life, is held in the Hardiman Library, University of Galway

LP Records

 * James Joyce - Ulysses (novel) : Soliloquies of Molly and Leopold Bloom (With E. G. Marshall). 1960. Caedmon Records TC 1068. (Side One : Molly Bloom (McKenna); SideTwo : Leopold Bloom (Marshall).

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Let's move this page to Blaník: the ISO-8859-1 character set, which is the limiting factor of article titles, does contain the "í" character. -- Sandius 17:45, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm a witness to the fact that there indeed is a (very small) army, including St. Wenceslas, in a cave inside Mt. Blanik. Unfortunately both the leader and his soldiers are carved out of sandstone and unlikely to ride to his country's rescue. Particularly in view of the fact that St. Vaclav/Wenceslas is better known for his decency and his peaceful reign than for his valor. One of these days when I have more time I'll try to find some literature to back me up. Fairlind (talk) 02:58, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

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Stone from Blaník included in newly built theatre..?
WHICH 'newly built theatre'? It seems to have gone through several such renewals. Bluedawe 02:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * All original foundation stones can still be seen in the exhibition in the basement of the National Theatre. Yes, it burned down once on 12 August 1881 and fire destroyed copper dome, auditorium and stage of the theatre, but was rebuilt again. In the exhibition is also a white marble plaque by Czech expatriates from Chicago with the inscription "What blood binds, the sea does not divide", which however did not arrive until 1871.1 Jirka.h23 (talk) 12:08, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Hel (mythological being)

Hela
I know that she was actually known as "Hel" to the Norsemen and not "Hela", but given the prominence of "Hela" in modern sources ranging from Marvel Comics to the John Charles Dollman painting actually used as an illustration on this page something needs to be said about that form of the name somewhere on this page. --Khajidha (talk) 17:10, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It would be Hella if anything. Hela is a mispelling and no one even in the Marvel universe pronounce it any other way than Hella. Though the closest you could get to that name academically is the Helja, but Hel is just more universally used.Carewolf (talk) 20:38, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Goddess Hel - the problem of semantics
I must express my surprise about the confusion about Hel not being categrorized or named a Goddess. This seem to be because she was not a part of the group asynja (modern Swedish spelling). It does seem a little odd. The asynja was simply the name of the goddesses belonging to the group of deities living in Asgard. Not all gods or goddesses lived in Asgard, but that does not mean that they where not gods or goddesses. To designate her as 'not a goddess' because she did not belong to the goddesses living in Asgard, and thus not having the title of asynja, is essentially the same thing as not categorizing Hades as a god because he did not reside in Olympus: true enough, Hades is not categorized as one of the Olympians for that reason, but that does not mean that he is not a god, not does anyone say he is not. Now, Hel is categorized as a "being", which is a little odd, as there is no true difference between being a "supernatural being" and being a goddess in this case, and she function as a goddess in all issues - beside for the fact, it seems, that she her place of residence disqualify her as such. All this seem to me to be a uneccessary semantic confusion, perhaps originally founded on a misunderstanding during translation, that a goddess need to live in Asgard and have the title asynja to be counted as a goddess. This is comparable to the Greek mythology, where many gods does not live in Olympus - or many other mythologies, for example, the goddess Ereshkigal, who like Hel are the queen of the underworld and the goddess of the death and have the same functions as Hel. This is uneccessary and creates unhelpful consequences for the readers and users of Wikipedia. To remove the categories "death goddesses" and so forth is not helpful to the reader, because she was a death goddess and functioned as such, and should be categorized with other "beings" with the same function rather than to be exclused because of a semantic designation. Indeed, Ereshkigal ias also a "supernatural being" - well, that is what a goddess is. --92.35.227.48 (talk) 15:56, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * We don't make any assumptions on Wikipedia, we stick to what scholarship says. The question of whether or not Hel was considered to be some kind of goddess or a jötunn remains entirely open-ended in the source material, which scholarship on the matter reflects. :bloodofox: (talk) 00:00, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

In Modern Culture
I am trying to add a modern culture section page and within it give instances in which Hel was depicted in several video games. Almost every god or goddess in one form or another has a modern culture section within their article that simply lists in which movies, tv shows, video games, or music the respective god is mentioned in. However my section, which is well referenced and contains the appropriate internal links, keeps being reverted and I was asked to gain a consensus regarding its inclusion, which is a little ridiculous in my opinion as this page is not frequently edited (I mean the last post to this talk page was two years ago). Regardless, I believe the more well-referenced and cited information on a a page the better, and adding an "In Popular Culture" section helps make the page more consistent with similar pages. Also in reality the vast majority of younger people only know Hel and many other gods and goddesses from mythology because of references in popular media, so including such a section is important. MrGoldenfold007 (talk) 15:56, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

 * This is just the use of the character in games and shows no impact of the use on culture. The cited references are simply documenting the games, with no intent or attempt to link the appearance of the god to any impact on culture. It's an excellent example of what WP:IPC warns about: " indiscriminate collections of trivia or cruft."

 * The section WP:IPCEXAMPLES provides more detailed guidance. Of the four suggested questions to ask there, #1 ("Has the subject (if a person or organization) acknowledged the existence of the reference?") is not applicable (subject is not a living human being). #s 3 ("Did any real-world event occur because of the cultural element covered by the reference?" & 4 ("Did the referencing material significantly depend on the specific subject?") are decidedly "no." Only #2 ("Have multiple reliable sources pointed out the reference?") comes anywhere close, but that's a simple artifact of documenting the game -- not because of any particular import of Hel the being.

 * This is the type of "sighting" that IPC disapproves. It's the sort of thing for which Wikipedia has been rightfully mocked. It gives no useful information to anyone researching Hel. TJRC (talk) 20:58, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

I'd argue that my added section provides useful information to a reader in showing that Hel is still being depicted at least somewhat in modern culture. Without an "In Modern Culture" section a reader has no way of knowing if Hel has been depicted in anything save the Hela in Marvel Comics, which has its own article. Additionally, if I create an "In Modern Culture" section from scratch of course it's not going to be very large and possibly be "trivial" in size and/or scope at first, I'm only one person and as with any article or section the hope is that it will grow over time, but it has to start somewhere. I am willing to do more research into depictions of Hel in popular culture, but I was only prepared to add to the article depictions of Hel I was familiar with. If every attempt to create an IMC section is shot down, it's never going to grow into anything.

Also again I want to reiterate that an IPC section, similar in structure to my own though usually larger because they're well established and not brand new, is present in almost every mythology article, so I believe there is already a general consensus supporting the presence of such sections among the editing and admin community at large, or else these sections would be taken down regularly. You might not like video games and that might be one reason you find my addition trivial, but I think it's important to understand that by and large younger generations learn about mythology largely through video games, fantasy literature, and movies. I can add additional instances of Hel being present in popular culture that I am less familiar with such as her being present in the Magnus Chase and the Gods of Asgard book series or being in episodes of the tv show Supernatural, which could help show that depictions of Hel are not present in any one form of media. Alone any of these mentions are not significant I agree with that, but if a lot of instances are mentioned it can better show the influence, or lack of influence, for a particular mythological deity in modern culture.

I think having a short paragraph about depictions of Hel in modern literature, video games, film, and televisions could be beneficial, and not ruin the integrity of the article. I realize long bulleted lists can be annoying at times which is why I purposefully did my edit within a paragraph, not bullet points. Take a look at the article for Thor, which is designated as a "good article," it has a fairly lengthy modern influence section but it's not in bullet point form, and it gets the idea across that Thor has had a big influence on modern culture, as he is depicted in a great variety of media. MrGoldenfold007 (talk) 01:53, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Also it looks like that Wikiproject page you posted that consensus discussion to regarding this article is even more dead than the article, I mean the last post to the Wikiproject page was in April and all the topics posted to the discussion page get no comments or interaction from what I've seen. The "consensus" is likely going to be 50/50, your vote and my vote, no one else, unless invited by you I guess, will voice any opinion on the matter.

 * I must say, the in culture section as written is quite promotional. Really, one only needs a single line that says "Hel is a character in the 20xx video game xxxx". All the rest is guff. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 00:34, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree with including it. Just trim it a little and format references. To really solidify it, it needs some secondary sources. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:56, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks all, I'm a newer editor so it's great to get some constructive feedback. I'll get on making those changes. MrGoldenfold007 (talk) 00:59, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * "in popular culture" sections of articles are often a hotbed of conflict. In part because alot of them were haphazard unreferenced jumbles of trivia, but many editors frown on them and will wholesale revert even referenced material. Best thing is to reference everything with as good sources as possible. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:44, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 14 August 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Hel (mythological being). per discussion consensus. This was a difficult one, but consensus via compromise tells us that the close should incorporate all perspectives to the extent possible, and choose the result with the most common ground. It appears that is the case for this name, uniting most discussion participants as "acceptable" and still following PAGs. (non-admin closure) — Shibboleth ink  (♔ ♕) 14:44, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Hel (being) → ? – Don't know a good name for this article, but as mentioned in this RM from 2015, (being) is a strange/uncommon disambiguation. I would have proposed (mythology), but that seems to conflict with Hel (location). Natg 19 (talk) 00:42, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

, who participated in the previous RM. Natg 19 (talk) 00:45, 14 August 2021 (UTC) , who also discussed afterwards. Natg 19 (talk) 00:49, 14 August 2021 (UTC) Natg 19 (talk) 00:59, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 * No move. I still cannot think of a better disambiguator. She is not described as a deity in the sources, and scholars disagree on whether she ever was one, with the dominant view appearing to be that she was not. An unusual disambiguator is not such a problematic thing that we should title the article inaccurately. Hel (entity) would be as good, but would be as unusual as "being" and probably a smidgen clearer to some readers and a smidgen less clear to others. In a previous discussion, someone compared the situation with the articles on Hades (the god), with Hades (place) redirecting to Greek underworld, but Hel is the reverse of that case, with Hel (place) and "death" representing most uses of the word in the written sources, so I think we do better to have both at disambiguated titles rather than moving either to Hel. (Furthermore in popular usage, I believe "Hades" more often refers to the place than to the god.) Yngvadottir (talk) 03:22, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 * move the disambiguator "being" is clearly "strange/uncommon" or awkward, and I would prefer these dabs be changed to "mythical being" "mythical place", though I realize the "mythical" isn't necessary to distinguish the two, and the MOS on dabs may call for as much succinctness as possible.

 * I was initially persuaded by some formal classification argument that the dab "goddess" should be changed to "being", however, when the issue resurfaced in regards to categorization, my opinion was that it was too ridiculous refuse to place Hel into a goddess/deity category, and place her instead in some other finely parsed box, because that would not serve the Category instruments function of navigating.

 * Besides, the label "goddess (of death)" is justifiable by virtue of its use among WP:RS scholars, e.g., Hilda R. E. Davidson, and Carolyne Larrington in her translation of the Poetic Edda, p.293 (note to p. 240), as I mentioned in the past thread. --Kiyoweap (talk) 04:45, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 * Except that Hilda Ellis Davidson is saying on that page that there is no evidence Hel was ever regarded as a goddess, but rather that Snorri's description is a personification and that is also the best way to describe mentions of her by some skaldic poets, such as Egill. The citation, and the preponderance of scholarly treatments of the issue, do not support labeling her a goddess, and accuracy is more important than consistency. Yngvadottir (talk) 06:37, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 * I would prefer to avoid a 'goddess' designation which might mislead readers. If 'being' is felt to be weird then maybe we could go with Hel (daughter of Loki)? Cpr. e.g. Aegiale (daughter of Helios). Haukur (talk) 09:56, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 * Merge with Hel (location), into a new article, as the two concepts are intrinsically related.--Berig (talk) 10:21, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 * Hel (goddess) Dictionaries call her goddess of death, Britannica calls her goddess / Norse deity. Encyclopedia of Ancient deities, Dictionary of Gods and Goddesses calls her goddess of underworld. Encyclopedia of World Mythology, Myths and Legends of the World, Encyclopedia of Occultism and Parapsychology, The Oxford Dictionary of Phrase and Fable her goddess of the dead/ goddess who rule underworld. Calling her a being or entity is definitely strange, when many references call her a goddess. Inviting GA nominator ; dictionaries referred in the references can be good sources to arrive at the correct word. Redtigerxyz  Talk 12:08, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Please stick to works from specialists in the field, like the article does. Generalists tertiary sources on these topics tend to be full of errors. The issue is this: Hel doesn't appear in any goddess lists in the corpus, is never referred to as a goddess in the corpus, and her 'status' is extremely unclear throughout the corpus, which overflows with 'types' of 'beings'. In turn, scholars who have pursued the question of Hel, like Davidson, are similarly cautious: It's quite unclear if she was considered a goddess, a jötunn, both, or neither. The disambiguation is simply there to disambiguiate her from the location with which she shares a name. :bloodofox: (talk) 01:41, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

 * No move This disambiguation works fine. It is simple a clear. ~`—¿philoserf? (talk)
 * oppose - this is a unique situation, and the current split of the being and the location is appropriate. -- Netoholic @ 14:47, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 * Move to Hel (mythological being) or, in the alternative, to Hel (mythological entity). Both "being" and "entity" carry so little meaning that it's worth having the additional qualifier "mythological". We're just not used to seeing it because most nouns (such as "goddess", which we all seem to agree does not apply here) are sufficiently overloaded with meaning to make an additional qualifier like "mythological" superfluous; but that's not true of "being" or "entity".
 * There's plenty of precedent for this, e.g., Ashtar (extraterrestrial being) & Transformer (spirit-being); Seat (legal entity), Reserve (territorial entity), Neutral zone (territorial entity) & Bpifrance (public entity); tons if you count redirects (e.g., Abyss (Cosmic being), Azhdahak (Armenian mythical being)).
 * We certainly shouldn't merge it with Hel (location) merely to avoid an awkward article name. TJRC (talk) 19:40, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 * No move: The current title is clear and accurately reflects the situation. Being differentiate the entity from the location of the same name (Hel (location)). It offers no further implications. This reflects the scholastic discussion surrounding the personified (?) figure from Old Norse folklore.
 * To be perfectly clear, Hel is never referred to as a goddess in the corpus, a corpus which contains many goddesses, many of them explicitly identified as such by way of lists. She's also never referred to as a jötunn, a dwarf, an elf, or categorically anything 'else'. We're not here to make assumptions, nor to take sides among scholars, and that's exactly what we'd be doing with the misleading Hel (goddess). This is further complicated by the fact that an entity named Helreginn ('Hel-ruler') appears in a list of jötnar names and scholars like Simek have stated that she may be a personification in skaldic poetry, etc., which would make Hel (personification) more correct than Hel (goddess) if we decided to take Simek et al.'s side in the discussion.
 * Nonetheless, some editors appear to be hel-bent on essentially hammering a square peg into a circular hole here and just pushing for Hel (goddess). That is not serving the reader.
 * As always, we report on what the sources say and their scholastic reception. The article currently quite neutrally contains extensive discussion from scholars on this topic—exactly what we want—and we can always add more. :bloodofox: (talk) 01:41, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Bloodofox, I think that by the scholarly fine testing you want to apply almost no mythology article title would pass. (being) is wrong as she isn't. The layman's sources such as Britannia are good enough for titling purposes. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:39, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * All you have to do is look to sources from scholars. Britannia is a poor source for Norse myth and shouldn't be used on any of our articles: It's full of bizarre statements and odd theories presented as fact. Fortunately, there's no shortage of discussion on these topics from scholars, including scholastic tertiary handbooks, such as Lindow's and Simek's in English, which we use throughout our coverage of these topics on Wikipedia. There's also Orchard's handbook. The same goes for any other myth body (or other folklore topics more widely)—it just so happens that our coverage of Germanic myth-related topics is much better than other bodies on the site, unfortunately. :bloodofox: (talk) 03:43, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support almost any move current title is unacceptable. Best supported is evidently Hel (goddess) despite scholarly fine-tuning. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:37, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Move to Hel (mythological being). "Being" alone is rather ambiguous and also implies actual existence. I would also not oppose Hel (goddess), as she is certainly often referred to as one. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:31, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Move to Hel (mythological being) or Hel (goddess). Even if she wasn't always considered a goddess at the time, it's still clear disambiguation and not confusing to modern readers. As said above, "being" by itself is vague and seems to imply that she actually existed. MClay1 (talk) 12:48, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Move back to Hel (goddess). In common English, she is a goddess. The page was created as a sub-stub at Hel (godess) in 2001 and developed happily at this title until December 2005, when all hell broke loose. See here or the page history of Hel (godess) from which that was copied, and various discussions at Talk:Hel (being)/Archive 1 and above. Hopefully this RM will bring stability, whatever the outcome. Andrewa (talk) 15:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Goddess in the Norse culture, "being" in the English language?
Why is Hel referred to as a "being" in English language Wikipedia? Is this an issue of English language scholarship? She is referred to as a goddess in Swedish scholarship. Would the term goddess be accepted about her if a reference is added describing this in Swedish language sholarship, or is she referred to as a being her simply because this is the preferred term about her in English language books? It seems an odd thing to sort her as a being, if this is only about the term ascribed for her in the English language. Would it not be more correct to follow the term described for her in the culture she originated? --Aciram (talk) 01:10, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

 * We'e discussed scholastic reception of Hel above quite a lot (see above). The issue is that the corpus does not designate her as a goddess (ásynja), a jötunn, or anything else, which is unusual. Some scholars have even argued that she was essentially a late personification, and was not considered a goddess at all. We have significant discussion from scholars in the article on this, and we're not here to take a stance on the matter one way or another. :bloodofox: (talk) 07:35, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

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