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User talk:Nandesuka/Archive 1

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Lamaze Institute for Normal Birth
Hi, you just contacted me regarding some of the edits I made the the Lamaze page. First, the information that currently posted to the "Lamaze" search is inacurate and the organization is being misrepresented. If you would like to reach more about the Lamaze childbirth education, visit. Second, Lamaze International is an organization that certifies Lamaze instructors and provides appropriate education sources to childbirth educators. The Lamaze Institute for Normal Birth is a online resource that specifically is more geared toward expectant parents and consumers. It provides evidence-based information about Lamaze, normal birth, as well as many other childbirth options. This is the site that should be listed throughout sites where expectant parents will visit that are related to birth, pregnancy, etc.

Epidural References
Thanks for those additional epidural research references - they were most interesting. I think the article is much better now. --Maustrauser 01:35, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks. The lack of a clear consensus on the issue in the research community is bewildering, to say the least. Nandesuka 16:04, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Fraternal Twins
Hi. I made an edit in fraternal twins stating twins of different genders must be fraternal. You added "almost". Out of curiosity, would you care to explain how? I can't understand how it is possible for a single zygote to split into two of different genders. Mandel 03:56, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

Mandel,

See later in the article, the sentence:

 * In extremely rare cases, identical twins have been born with opposite sexes (one male, one female). The probability of this is so vanishingly small (only 3 documented cases) that multiples having different genders is universally accepted as a sound basis for a clinical determination that in utero multiples are not monozygotic.

I briefly considered using even more affirmative language ("nearly almost in every case, except for this one weird freakish edge case") but figured since it was discussed later in the article, that would do. Basically, during the twinning process, one twin can lose their Y chromosome, and develop as an X0 child, which will end up female. As observed there, it's very very rare. Hope that helps. Nandesuka 11:07, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

stallman
you seem to not understand who Stallman is. Please, read Richard Stallman page before. His call is not trivial - he is known for speaking very rarely, but when he speaks it's always very serious.

 * I understand exactly who RMS is. In this context, he's a blowhard with a blog, and unless people take his call seriously -- and let's be frank, they won't -- it is trivia.

 * I wouldn't call that trivia - both because RMS is a serious person, and because the topic is more than serious. People don't have to follow to make it worthy content. He don't have to post books plot to make it worthy - because it's court order and civil rights what matter

PL/I
PL/I has always been regarded as a "power" language, in that more functionality is built into the language, unlike others which rely on external functions. I have therefore reverted you edit. I hope that you agree see "Power vs. Adventure - PL/I and C" --ClemMcGann 14:54, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Clem, I responded in the talk page for PL/I. My problem with "powerful" is that it is somewhat meaningless in context and a bit too POV.  I prefer "ambitious" or "feature-rich", neither of which can reasonably be debated.Nandesuka 15:30, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Sexual obsessions of User:DanP
It's sad really that you'd do this  after it was a compromise put in place many months ago after I agreed to delete a much larger set of references explaining the primary relevance within the scope of breastfeeding. Please put it back, and there is no reason to start including your personal bias without even a hint on your part of discussing the scientific merits. DanP 22:52, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Dan, thanks for your interesting request. As you'll see if you examine my contributions, I have a wide range of interests and, I believe, fairly and accurately edit many articles, often in the interests of readability and conciseness.  I think my edit on that article was a good edit; the sentence reads better and covers more territory.  I don't have a particular axe to grind, and I think you do.   I wasn't familiar with the history of the breasteeding article; I will examine it and decide whether or not to undo that edit based on that review.  My personal opinion is that filling an article on breastfeeding with distractions based on your own personal sexual issues is not terribly useful to the readers.  Kind regards,  Nandesuka 23:35, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * INDEED. You have a major axe to grind. A neutral description is one that does not slant one way or the other.  Your fascination with one particular form of genital mutilation is quite obvious.  We should use neutral descriptions, not favoring one thing over another. DanP 23:58, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * DanP, that remark is wholly inappropriate. Use of normal descriptive terms rather than some term that is politically correct according to a fringe minority is reasonable, not indicative of some deep, dark secret obsession. Are you proposing to enforce your "un-prefix is un (sorry) not acceptable" philosophy here: Hanbok (undyed) Draft beer (unpasteurised) Yoghurt (unpasteurised and *shock* unhomogenised)? - Jakew 12:01, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I did not make comments on any prefixes, only noted that "what things are" is what Wikipedia should say. We use facts here remember?  If you have some kind of fixation on one procedure over another, that is your preference.  Wikipedia should present them neutrally, instead of fetishizing one particular child mutilation, and then ignoring things like genital piercing.  NPOV can be your friend. DanP 12:14, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * In accordance with DanP's wishes, I have changed all instances of "culture" in the Yoghurt article to "bacterial eugenics". Nandesuka 12:36, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Dishonest Edits
Nandesuka, it is sad really that you have this axe to grind against little boys. This entirely dishonest edit is proof enough that you have no intention of good faith actions in Wikipedia. Our NPOV philosophy is that both sides of every issue are permitted, and it's really quite terrible how your emotions have caused you to imagine a 3RR violation that never occurred. Please try hard to see Wikilove and try to permit (maybe even encourage?) contributions, even if you don't agree, with data that is contrary to your own personal opinion. DanP 13:59, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * DanP, I think you have issues, and I really don't want to discuss any of them with you. I will continue to edit as accurately and impartially as I see fit.  What I think is "sad" is to see you to complain when someone points out that you violated the 3RR.  The thing for you to do here is to own up that you made an honest mistake, and to correct it. Nandesuka 14:02, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Are you the most arrogant wiki person ever?
Get a life before you suggest deletion of an article for misspelling. 132.239.153.57
 * Actually, I'm only the ninth most arrogant wiki person ever. And I didn't suggest deletion, I suggested redirecting it to the more accurate and complete article on the same subject.

Actually it was a different entry that has been since removed. The one with a misspelled link to Katamari Damacy. So I see you have a history of doing it. Get over yourself. Ability to spell does not intelligence make. It had nothing to do with censorship or marking for deletion. It had everything to do with the method you chose to employ in making the suggestion. It was arrogant and rude. 132.239.153.57 20:31, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Look, the article in question that Votes for deletion/Lisa Shockwas an article about someone that, in my opinion, is not in any way notable. If I'm wrong about that, then no doubt legions of people will rush in to vote to keep it.  I am sorry if by choosing to poke some gentle fun at the misspelling, I hurt your delicate feelings. Nandesuka 20:34, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Image:Daniel tiger.jpg
On WP:PUI you wrote of getting permission from the trademark (and presumably copyright) owners. Make sure the "permission" includes a full GFDL release, or a release to public domain. Remeber that once it is in Wikipedia, anyone should be able to legally copy and modify the content, and many sites will. See Copyright for more info. DES 03:59, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

 * An image of Daniel Tiger has a strong [fair use]] claim on an article about him. A better option for an image might be a screenshot from the television, show, though, since screenshots are easier fair use claims.  Thanks for working to resolve copyright issues. :) kmccoy (talk) 07:20, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

This image still has no source or license info, after having been listed on WP:PUI for 30 days. I'm listing it in the To be deleted section as of now. If you can find a source and license for it, feel free to reupload it. JesseW 00:07, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I solved the problem by going out, taking my own picture of a Daniel Tiger animatronic. I uploaded that.  Thanks for your help. Nandesuka 01:55, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Breastfeeding edits
Hi there. Thanks for your recent edits to breastfeeding. I must admit to being somewhat worried when I see people changing things (I wrote most of it and have had to defend it against people trying to force various points of view into it), but I was very happy to see what you did, and it's certainly helped that section of the article. Thanks again, and happy editing. violet/riga (t) 11:50, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your remarks
Thanks for your remarks at User_talk:Dystopos. Yes, I'm fuming, but I'm still amenable to reason, and thanks for stating your frank, honest opinion. Not for siding me, but for just being honest. Mandel 23:18, July 30, 2005 (UTC)

I'm coming around to agree that removing the remarks was not the greatest idea. I apologize for bringing it to this point. To give some explanation, I stepped in when I did when, in my opinion, the debate was no longer about the article, or the policy process, or the readings of the policy process, or opinions about the readings of the policy of the process, but merely accusations directed personally. At that point I did remove comments both from Mandel and another editor who attacked him. My purpose (misguided) was to try to cut off the escalation of that dispute. It succeeded only (of course) in inflaming it. I will hold to a more rigorous standard when exercising RPA's in the future. Dystopos 00:26, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Votes for undeletion
You voted in the VfD for Admira Ismić and Boško Brkić. I believe that this article was deleted without a clear consensus, and have nominated the article for undeletion. If you would like to contribute to the VfU discussion, please follow the link above. Thanks for your time! Pburka 00:19, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

Flowerofchivalry
Aloha Nadesuka:

I'm a bit new to Wikipedia politics and dispute procedure, but I don't feel that the RfC nor mediation would truly be effective in resolving the matter with FoC. I'm unsure exactly what to make of the matter as it seems to be an endless loop. I would like to file a request for arbitration, or at least some sort of admin involvement, as I don't think we can keep the page on the Nanjing Safety Zone locked and in that state forever. -- Xanadu 08:00, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

User talk:Queck
Why did you blank another editor's vandalism warning and my notification of Queck's permanent block, and replace them with your "test2" message? (Incidentally, test messages should really be subst:ed.) --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 21:50, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Mel: Purely accidental.  I was mistakenly looking at Queck's edit of 15:18, where he blanked the first warning -- what I intended to do was re-add the first warning and then add a second of my own.  What I actually did was revert the later edits, which was unintentional.  Nandesuka 23:07, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

:)
Likewise to you... I was about to hit your redirect on Magnavox odyssey 3, when I noticed that you'd already done it (seconds before mine, too, blast!). Good work. jglc | t | c 18:45, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Your comments on whether pages related to standards of measure should be deleted

 * Rktect 8/5/05
 * Could you tell us a little about your background in this topic
 * and share with us what it is that you feel makes you knowledgable in this regard?
 * Sure. I use and edit Wikipedia.  As a user, I have a clear sense of when an article is helpful, useful, encyclopedic, and readable, and when it is an incoherent grab-bag of nouns thrown together into a list without rhyme or reason.  The pages you refer to are in the latter category.  Good day, Nandesuka 18:57, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Iraqi civil war
The article has recieved a re-write and I've given it a serious beating with the NPOV hammer - you might wish to take a look at it again and see if it deserves a keep on VfD. =) Xaa 02:55, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Harry Potter
This is degenerating almost into an "I'm right, you're wrong" thing, as neither side can agree on anything. If you don't object, I'm going to list this on RfC. Hermione1980 15:40, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Grr, I don't seem to do very well with content disputes. The last time I got into something like this, I had to excuse myself from the debate/mudslinging for a few days. I left a note on Calsicol's talk page about him being in violation of the 3RR and, while I admit it was terse, I don't think it was a threat like he claimed in his edit summary (in which he also said he was the only person improving the article "How about you try improving the article yourself Hermione? I am the only one who is at present" or something like that). Well, I would, but the parts of the article he wants improved are outside my area of expertise, considering I only came into the fandom about two and a half years ago. I deal with content of the books, not criticisms or the social impact or whatever. [end rant] Sorry for cluttering up your talk page with this. It's listed on RfC, I've asked the Wikiproject HP members to have a look at it, I don't know what else to do. Hermione1980 16:20, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

On the topic of harry potter
Thank you for the comment. I agree with you completely now. Calsicol is in the wrong, and as soon as I have time to catch up on the reading of the talk page I will be there to support your arguments. --jonasaurus 18:41, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Please stop vandalism to Beyond Good and Evil pages
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Please do any testing here. unsigned message by User:Xizer

I guess you could describe my trying to undo the damage you wreaked as "vandalism", but I wouldn't. Best of luck convincing people that a flopped videogame is more notable than a seminal work by Nietzsche. Nandesuka 00:57, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes, a small article on an old book is really more important than a large and far more artistic game. Considering the game isn't even based on this obscure book, and it has the larger article, it deserves to be higher on the list. Xizer 01:07, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Svertigo's RfC
Ofcourse you can comment if you arn't an admin. I'm not! There is nothing special really about admins other than that they got extra abilities. They have no more power in discussion than ordinary users (indeed, that is what the RfC is about) gkhan 09:40, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

B5
Sounds basically good to me. I rather like what has been done with The West Wing episodes; that is, a list of all episodes with brief synopses to give an idea of the arc flow. Sadly, I lack the time to be heavily involved at this point... but have at it! -- Seth Ilys 14:28, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Just to let you know I have commented on the B5 talk pages (Talk:List of Babylon 5 episodes and Talk:Babylon 5)... except that the example I suggested was Lost season 1 episode guide and I'd suggest a page for each just just because 5 years could get pretty long. -- Lochaber 10:54, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Schools
Please see Votes for deletion/Duveneck School (2nd Nom.). This is an equally non-notable school in Palo Alto, CA. Gateman1997 18:59, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Gary Gygax
I am still not convinced about the pictures of Gary Gygax. I firmly believe the pictures are a good representation of the man. With your argument, the picture of Einstein with his tongue sticking out is also not encyclopedic. K.Nevelsteen 06:17, 11 August 2005 (UTC) moved here from your user page by Sasquatch   讲  看  06:15, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Wikiblower protection
"Look, I will try to use small words so that you understand ..."
 * You're in trouble mate. You made me laugh so hard I spewed Mecca Cola out of my nose and all over my computer keyboard. Fortunately I'm not at home but am instead at a computer lab, or I'd be filing for damages. — Asbestos | Talk   (RFC)  14:22, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * ...that said, I'm not condoning anything that might be construde as violating WP:NPA. Oh, what the hell, you could always file for protection under Wikiblower protection. — Asbestos | Talk   (RFC)  14:32, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Look up information before VfD
The next time you put a page on VfD, please check information and sources first. The NGNT4 page had stated it was confirmed in the past, but someone deleted it for some reason. --Zeno McDohl 19:06, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Proactive memory allocation
I have a question regarding your comments on [] regarding proactive memory allocation on Mac OS-X. You wrote that Mac applications proactively allocate as much memory as they might need to avoid later avoid malloc overhead.

How do you go about programming an application this way in C++? I imagine that it would be very inconvenient to program without using the new construct (which allocates new memory) every time a new object is required. --Fredrik Orderud 20:07, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I did not write what you are saying I wrote. I wrote that the behavior you describe is what one wants large applications to do, not that that is what all applications on any particular OS actually do.  Google for "slab allocator" for some basic information.  Generally this will happen well below the application programming layer.   That being said, I've certainly worked on large programs that needed to run on platforms with slow mallocs, and we implemented exactly the sort of behavior I've described (preallocating memory ahead of time and managing it ourselves, rather than leaving ourself at the mercy of malloc).  Nandesuka 20:13, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Ok, so your claim is that the Mac OS-X "malloc" implementation preallocates a lot of memory in order to speed up subsequent allocations? --Fredrik Orderud 20:37, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

 * No. Stop putting words in my mouth.  My only claim is that drawing any conclusions about performance because an application has a large VSIZE indicates a fundamental misunderstanding about how virtual memory systems actually work.  I mentioned the preallocation case as one example of where having more memory allocated in fact increases overall performance compared to allocating on-the-fly.  Nandesuka 21:03, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Alumni or students?
I answered you question over at CFD regarding dropping out of Uni and still/not being an alumn. In short, in Cambridge at least, membership is forever unless you are expelled, so dropping out doesn't mean you surrender your membership of Uni or College, and you remain an alumn. The friend of mine who dropped out still gets the advertising urging alumni to contribute all their spare money to the Uni, so they don't let go too easily! -Splash 16:16, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

FOC Alert!
He's back, just so you know. I'm looking forward to his entertainment, after him being away for half a month. -Hmib 00:20, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Crush
Hey - I was going to tell you this was pretty funny, but now that I've read your talk page (and looked over the contributions mentioned) I see you weren't even trying hard. brenneman (t) (c) 05:12, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

VFU
If you feel strongly about this I suggest that you have policy changed to make ongoing VFUs binding on administrators (which would be difficult--ongoing VfD's don't bind administrators against speedying; while there is an argument that they should, in practice they're not) So as to avoid problems, in future I will start a VfD on any article I recover if I am aware that there is an ongoing VFU. And I will check. I don't think there should be a problem on this; if two administrators dispute a speedy among themselves it is better to take the discussion to VfD. You suggest that there is an element of poisoning the well about this, but this is precisely why I won't accept a VFU where I dispute the grounds of speedying. By deleting the article the original sysop has poisoned the well. Recovering and making it into a VfD should redress the balance; during a VfD an article can be viewed and improved, whereas no such improvement can be performed during a VFU discussion. We should trust our editors.

An article identifies its subject matter so well that it can be expanded is at best a questionable speedy. It should probably not have been deleted in the first place. Speedy deletion isn't something to be performed by an administrator who just can't be bothered to do some research, and we shouldn't permit administrators to believe that they can do so. --Tony Sidaway Talk 11:28, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Voting is for the other guy?
Just a comment. The issue of undeleting without using VfU has been raised in an RfC on Tony Sidaway. If you have a more generalized question about the use and misuse of VfU (and I know I do), perhaps a generalized RfC is in order. If, on the other hand, you believe that VfU has been improperly circumvented by a particular administrator, you may consider existing or new RfC's on that administrator. I write this simply because I saw that you were, like me, expressing some concern on VfU for the way that some are undeleting because they feel like it. Geogre 17:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
Great thank for helping to move the articles from Category:Heroes of the Three Kingdoms to their new home at Category:People of the Three Kingdoms! i could have died doing it on my own. :) --Plastictv 04:15, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

re-closing an improperly closed VfD
Hi. You mentioned that Tony Sidaway set the precedent for re-closing an improperly closed VfD. Do you have a link you could send me? - Tεx  τ  urε  14:21, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

SD.net VfD
Reverted. Tanizaki 02:54, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Your edit comment about wanting an Adminship nomination
I just saw your edit comment for a recent edit on CFD ... I can't believe you think that asking for a nomination for adminship in order to satisfy your impatience is going to get you anywhere. If anything, I'd argue against your adminship nomination as a result of that comment. Impatience as a driver for seeking admin authority .. bad form. Courtland 04:41, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I replied on your user talk page, but you're absolutely right: I apologize for trying to break up the monotony of doing lots of cleanup work late at night by making a joke.  It was wrong, and I'll never, ever do it again.  Nandesuka 04:46, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Your comment hit a nerve. I'm adamant about the conduct of admins as there's a creeping elitism among persons with this authority that rakes nails across the blackboard of my sensibility. Courtland 16:12, 28 August 2005 (UTC) (also posted on my User page)

Request for arbitration, rktect
For your information, I have now submitted a request for arbitration: User:rktect -- Egil 11:34, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Systemic bias
Nandesuka, To my knowledge, Alexa is primarily found installed on North American browsers, and thus should be used with caution for anything outside that oddly narrow world view. Actually, it should be used with caution always, but even more so here, etc. ^_^ brenneman (t) (c)  05:26, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia widow
As the author and after further reflection under more sober circumstances I have tagged this article for speedy deletion as I believe it meets the criterion of General article 7 (1.2.7) at WP:CSD. hydnjo talk 20:42, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry.
I've reverted you on Plum Canary. I hope you understand, and will not remove again if you replace. Please understand that I removed your comment without prejudice. I believe that we share very similar goals, and respect your opinon. brenneman (t) (c) 04:12, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

I'd only give that a "SnarkyLevel - 3 " under normal conditions, but I'm trying to keep things über-cool right now! Tony has filed a RfM, and I'd like it to progress smoothly. I'd also like to make clear that I'd only remove another editor's comments with caution. Thanks for being understanding. ^_^ ; brenneman (t) (c)  05:17, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Response to your questions on RFM
The RfC was ostensively brought on the grounds of abuse of administrative powers. The issues raised seemed to me to resolve to fundamental dissatisfaction, expressed by a small number of people, with current Wikipedia policy. I don't agree that it was poorly written; it was fundamentally misconceived, based on an interpretation of policy that is shared by few if any people involved in closing VfDs.

An actually rather small number of people, disjoint with those many who supported my response, expressed various concerns that seemed to me to amount to nothing more than differences of opinion. I am perfectly happy with the idea that different people have different opinions, but in the end responding to the expression of such opinions, which were repetitive and unproductive, grew onerous and I moved on. The complaints expressed seemed to be fully answerable by the response to the initial complaint: that my actions are fully supported by Wikipedia policy.

If the two dozen people had decided that I wasn't closing VfDs correctly then I would have done pretty much what I do all the time anyway--adapt my VfD closing practices to suit my perception of the letter and the spirit of policy in the light of experience. For instance, over the past month I have moved away from calling consensus on brief discussions and towards the position that consensus requires a reasonable amount of discussion, I have revised my troll detection methods several times, I have moved away from the practice of calling a bare "no consensus" because I think the use of that term on its own creates a misleading impression. Had I been told, improbable as it seems, by a considerable number of people, that a no consensus must in certain circumstances be closed as a merge, or a sysop must petition VFU prior to undeletion of a bad speedy, then I would have changed my practices and personally edited the policy documents to comply with such an evident consensus. But clearly these are minority opinions as well as being contrary to policy.

Nevertheless the vehemence of the opposition expressed, and the extent to which Radiant in particular seems to be prepared to go, is worrying. That kind of attitude is not good for Wikipedia. --Tony Sidaway Talk 07:02, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Hello
Nandesuka, I thought I'd drop by to say thanks for your weighing in at the CSD discussion on the proposed G4 text. I've always found your comments helpful, and this time was no different. Cheers— encephalon έγκέφαλος   18:49:59, 2005-09-06 (UTC)

Moving pages
Just a friendly FYI: I just saw that you created a new page (Dungeons & Dragons Miniatures Game) and moved a large amount of content just to rename the article. I wanted to point out that there's a "move" tab at the top of each article that accomplishes the same thing. It's a lot easier to use since it moves the entire page and creates a redirect automatically. The best part is that the "move" button also preserves the article's edit history and moves it to the new page as well. Cheers! BrainyBroad 00:45, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've had those kind of days :) You might consider moving the content back to the original page and then getting an admin to delete the new page. That way you could try again & move the history along with everything else.  BrainyBroad 07:48, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

Intersexuality
Well, you learn something new every day. I've made some comments on the talk page. I think rewording is better than outright removal, as in essence, it's ok, it's just the particular form that's a problem. Hope I've been of some use. :-) I'll keep it on my watchlist to see... - Jakew 11:17, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

List of non-admins with high edit counts
Hello - just wondering whether you realised that the "currently nominated" link next to your name on the above-mentioned page goes to Jtkiefer's nomination rather than your own. I haven't edited in case there's some reason for that; it does seem a little odd, though. Loganberry (Talk) 22:49, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the support on my RfA. I was very pleasantly surprised to see so much support throughout the week. You reckon I am both sober and a student, huh? Well, I do try mainly to edit Wikipedia when I'm not drunk! Please do keep an eye on me and my logs, especially while I'm learning the ropes with the new buttons. Thanks again, and the very best of luck with your RfA — things are leaning slowly but surely in your direction. -Splash 23:48, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Censorship
You may be right - she irritated me with that arrogant edit summary (reverting because she "preferred" that version, of all things), which is a lousy excuse for not assuming good faith and I know it. Nevertheless, I don't think it's acceptable to keep the current version. Both the AAP and Howard's study make it crystal clear that this is only a problem given inadequate pain relief. To omit that proviso makes a false generalisation, and I don't think we should compromise on a misleading version for the sake of placating certain people.

I am increasingly of the opinion that Jfdwolff and Jayjg are right - we should just delete the whole thing. At least that way it's still accurate and still mentioned indirectly via surgical procedures. And the benefit is that we don't have to go into extreme depth about the various conditions and so on where it may or may not apply. Jakew 18:42, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your support on my RfA. WP will be a better place if we stop judging others based on our POVs. I am hopeful that WP can be that place in which respect, tolerance and civility are daily currency. I will do my best (admin or not) to contribute to make that happen. WP needs to be fun, not just a daily grind fending off opossing POVs...! :) Thanks again. --ZappaZ 02:07, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Bmicomp's RfA
Well, my RfA has not quite completed yet, but either way, I'd like to thank you for your vote and your support, regardless of the outcome. -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 17:59, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

The scope of VfU
Considering the Harry Potter trolling VfU discussion and several recent ones, it's time we revived the discussion on Wikipedia talk:Votes for undeletion and dealt with the question directly. You were involved in the original discussion quite enthusiastically, so I thought I'd drop you a note. We'd got about as far as simplifying the immediately preceding discussion and then things sort of stalled. Anyway, I've started a new section on that Talk: page. -Splash 22:24, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I was just wondering which of the two proposals on that page you were expressing support for? There the original one, and there's Tony Sidaway's alternative. At present, your comment is under the second of the two. -Splash talk 22:06, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: Don't give up.
Thanks for your support. I'll be around in other places on WP, but as stated I won't be returning to the Toby discussion any time soon, if at all. As far as I'm concerned, the proposal has been rejected, and I don't expect it will still make it. I feel all of us are now just reiterating our previous points and I really don't see what I could contribute to this discussion any further. Thanks. --IByte 13:04, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

TLAs
A proposal has been made at Requested moves to move TLAs from AAA to DZZ and other related pages to Wikipedia namespace. Please visit Talk:TLAs from AAA to DZZ for the related discussion. -- Francs2000 | Talk 00:35, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

You're a sysop!
You are now an administrator. Congratulations! Your decision was a close call, and excluding Boothy's vote the support vote was a shade under 80%. I hope you take note of the opposing votes seriously, and work on improving your relations with the wiki community.

You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! =Nichalp  «Talk»=  05:52, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations on being a sysop! — J I P | Talk 06:42, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Yay! - brenneman (t) (c)  08:02, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

That is excellent news, Nandesuka. Congratulations! Here's to the backlog! -Splash talk 10:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Very happy to hear this. Whatever differences of opinion on policy matters you may have with some of our fellow editors, I have never doubted that you'll make a good and fair admin. Good job!— encephalon ὲγκέφαλον  17:53, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Even in this recent rash of exceptional admin candidates, you stand out in my mind. Congrats, Nan. Fernando Rizo T/C 20:18, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Congrats on your promotion. I have faith that you will execute your duties with sedulousness and assiduity! Take care. Journalist  C./ Holla @ me!

Congratulations! Wear it wisely. User:Zoe|(talk) 05:09, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

 * מזל טוב. And w/o any help from me!  :-)  Tomer TALK  20:07, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Popups tool
Lupin|talk|popups 16:50, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Congrats + Thanks
Congratulations on your new wizardly powers. :-) And thanks for your charming message. It was a pleasure to find when first checking Wiki this morning. Jakew 10:22, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

request for speedy deletion
Hi! Thank you for fulfilling my request for deletion of my userpage!

Best Regards, Mg22 16:50, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Gilbey Momerath
You appear to have closed Articles for deletion/Gilbey Momerath with a result of delete and outgrabe. I'm just curious, how did you interpret the vote "outgrabe"? Does that mean you're a slithy trove now? — J I P | Talk 17:36, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Per the OED's definition of "outgrabe", I honored both classes of votes by (a) deleting the article, and (b) emitting a strange noise as I did so.

intr. A nonsense word; (most frequently) to emit a strange noise. In quot. 1903 used trans. to mean outdo (cf. OUT- 18a). The text of quot. 1855 also occurs in the first verse of ’Jabberwocky’ in Through the Looking-Glass (1871) i. 21. 1855 ‘L. CARROLL’ Rectory Umbrella & Mischmasch (1932) 139 All mimsy were the borogoves; And the mome raths outgrabe. 1876 ‘L. CARROLL’ Hunting of Snark v. 50 The Beaver had counted with scrupulous care, Attending to every word: But it fairly lost heart, and outgrabe in despair, When the third repetition occurred. 1903 Sat. Rev. 7 Feb. 164/1 Deadmanship! wrote..Dr. Shrapnel..; and the word is fit to stir the jealous admiration of Carlyle or even Lewis Carroll. Indeed Dr. Shrapnel ‘outgrabed’ them both. 1980 Econ. Jrnl. 90 227 Raj Krishna..separates 16 categories each for ‘stock’ and ‘flow’ unemployment, even without considering wage expectations. One outgrabes with despair!

Regards, Nandesuka 19:00, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your vote.
Thank you for your support in my successful RfA. I hope I can live up to expectations. - Trevor MacInnis (Talk | Contribs) 00:11, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks awfully
Ta for supporting my recent RfA, much appreciated. I'll endeavour to use these new powers wisely....dave souza 12:31, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

User:Dhimmi
Hi Nandesuka, I saw you were earlier helping out on WP:AN/3RR. Could you take a look at Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR for me, please? I can't do it as I've edited the page. It's a very straightforward violation, and he's already been blocked for 3RR at the same article, Bat Ye'or, over the same edit. He also reverted again after he knew he had been reported, so he's clearly not going to stop; it seems a shame to protect the article just because of one user, all of whose edits, as I recall, have been to that page, so s/he may have some personal connection to the issue. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 13:46, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for taking care of that. SlimVirgin (talk) 21:33, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Image:Priory of Sion.gif
The source of the Image:Priory of Sion.gif is http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/priory.gif Loremaster 16:16, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations
You're welcome, and congratulations! Jayjg (talk) 21:30, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

german elections
sorry to bother u with this, but there's no response on the talk-page :

Aleichem 23:14, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

tnx for answer but i found another mod ;-) sorry Aleichem 23:30, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

3 Revert Rule- blocking
You've just been created an admin a few days ago- you should perhaps wait until you have more experience before you decide to block people. I did not break the 3RR on Scotland. If you bothered to look at the article correctly, you would have seen I was trying to reach a compromise version of the article, and not meerley engaging in a revert edit war. Regards Astrotrain 12:49, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

 * You should never have been created an admin, looking at the voting process sees a large number of oppose votes, never mind the fact you only joined in April. I am sure your abuse of the admin powers will not go unnoticed. Astrotrain 15:32, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

For what it's worth, this looked like a perfectly valid enforcement of the 3RR to me. Try to discuss the matter at hand instead of making ad hominems, I'm sure it will be much more productive. If you really think you were wronged you can always try WP:RFC or WP:VP, but I doubt you'll have any luck. --fvw * </SMALL> 15:55, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Looks like a valid 3RR block to me, with two violations. 3RR is not something I go around enforcing much (I don't think I have blocked anybody for it yet), but if there are four reverts on the same page in a period of 24 hours, and none of them were reversions of vandalism, the block is valid. Appeals can usually be made to any admin, although if the block was valid it is probably best to apologize to the blocking admin. Sjakkalle (Check!)  06:09, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Jimbeaux
I was just ignoring the troll. :) User:Zoe|(talk) 00:00, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
 * From User_talk:Zoe:

 * (Personal attack removed; user believes that a reasonable user could not possibly believe, under any circumstances that "User:Jimbeaux" might be a reference to "User:Jimbo Wales".) Nandesuka 16:22, 25 September 2005 (UTC) BTW, best to let Zoe reply for herself Nandesuka, this is not trolling as she seems to think from reading your talk page, just a legitimate question as to why she would consider banning this user "on sight". We have enough trouble keeping good users in many situations, why ban one before they have even started? --formerly 209.43.25.154 14:27, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Goodness me, where was the personal attack in my last post? Where was I uncivil?. Where was my intemperate language? I think your post here demonstrates many of these qualities. I think a proper reading of the history of this page will verify that you are being over sensitive. You really need to be less presumptious about the language used in posts. There was no intent to attack you personally, and no attack was made. I was merely pointing out that no average, reasonable user could possibly misconstrue one name (Jimbeaux) for the other (Jimbo Wales), and thus think that it was an attempt at impersonation. If you were offended by my post, I apologise, but if you think that was a personal attack I wish you well on Wikipedia, you will need a very thick skin. I am also very familiar with the various WP policies, including WP:NPA, WP:FAITH and WP:CIVIL, none of which I violated. I would suggest to you, however, that Zoe's original post that prompted my question was in contravention of WP:FAITH, despite her words to the contrary.

 * Please also point out to me the proof that many right minded, reasonable users did consider the name to be an attempt at impersonation, as you assert on Zoe's talk page. --formerly 209.43.25.154 17:17, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Your intemperate language is in the edit history for this talk page; interested readers are free to look them up; per my comment on Zoe's page, I will no longer be responding to your messages. Have a nice day. Nandesuka 17:38, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Fair enough, I absolutely have no wish to have further discourse with you either. For the record however, there is no personal attack, intemperate language or incivility in any of my posts here, or on Zoe's page. The edit history will confirm this. My day has been pretty good so far, I hope yours is too. Best wishes. --formerly 209.43.25.154 17:47, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks for your support and thoughtful comments in my recent RfA. And congratulations on your recent promotion to sysop as well. -R. fiend 20:27, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

AFD
Oh, so that's what led to the assumption of bad faith (spamming): ? I guess an article has to be left as an orphan, rather than linking related articles to it, or else it counts as spamming? 24.54.208.177 04:25, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Rktect arbitration
Since you left a statement, you may be interested to know that there is now a Requests for arbitration/Rktect/Evidence. -- Egil 13:48, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Jeremy Clarkson article
Just want to say thanks for intervening on the Jeremy Clarkson article, the page needs a lot of work to get it up to scratch. The amount of non-NPOV stuff in there is rediculous. I had a go myself but an admin with a bit of experience is exactly what was needed, thanks again. M A Mason 14:25, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

RfA
Just to say thanks for supporting my RfA. Please let me know if you see me screw up.--Doc (?) 18:57, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Childbirth revert
Please remember to Assume good faith.

I found it especially irritating that you would revert a well-written change while I was busy writing up the references that I had promised in the edit comment.

It should be pretty clear that I'm not some pervert vandal; this account is not recently created.

Hey, it's good to learn something new. Today you learned about positioning as a way to reduce pain, and as a bonus you learned about the (admittedly uncommon) birth orgasm.

AlbertCahalan 23:41, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Right, you don't have to assume that parts of articles are well-written. I didn't think you were suggesting such an issue exists. Feel free to correct my spelling, grammar, or presentation order.

You also don't have to assume that no citations to sources are required when they are. It is however not the norm to provide citations before editing. Were we to require this, Wikipedia could not exist as it does today. Much of the Childbirth article is without citation. Just for fun, can you provide a peer-reviewed citation showing that birth must always be painful?

Assuming good faith means you must, for a time, accept an edit summary that says that references will be provided. They were indeed provided, in less than an hour. I have gone far beyond my duty to provide a counter-example to your assertion that no mother ever experiences a birth orgasm or painless birth.

I suggest that you graciously accept the evidence.

Note that you reverted 3 separate items. Do you still believe that all 3 are wrong? If not, you have a duty to put back the items you don't dispute. You may also have a duty to put back the others, given that I have supplied references and you have not supplied greater or more credible references to prove the opposite.

AlbertCahalan 01:45, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Blocking IP 207.69.139.151
How can you block IP 207.69.139.151 on 22d and it be effecting me now, after I have edited most all day. Then all of a sudden, I'am blocked (check by user contribs).

It is very frustrating that I get caught up in blocks to some nut. Have Earthlink block him from coming to Wiki sites. Not blocking IP's all over the place.

PLEASE. WikiDon 05:34, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

vector games
I just want to point out that elite and red alarm ARE vector based games, and that I changed the List of vector-based arcade games to List of vector-based arcade and console games.

never mind there wireframe sorry.

Who's RfA
Thank you for supporting my masters RfA. He appreciates your support and comments and looks forward to better serving Wikipedia the best he can. Of course I will be doing all of the real work. He would have responded to you directly, but he is currently out of town, and wanted to thank you asap. Thanks again. --Who's mop?¿? 20:59, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

2005 USA-Race
DNS stands for when a car does not take a a race start. Makes sense. By having Ret listed that mean the driver has actually started in that race and will count a race starts towards the driver race start tally.. The formation lap does not count as a lap at all as it is not added towards the race classification. For when does a driver 'start' a Grand Prix? To my mind he does so only if he is on the grid when the flag drops or light goes green at the final start. Should a driver have failed to compete the formation lap, for instance (as was the case with Prost at Imola in 1991), he cannot truly be said to have started the race. In the case of restarted events such as the British GP in 1986, poor Jacques Laffite certainly did start the race, but this was declared null and void and he was not presented to take the restart, which is the only one that counts. For true official race results is best to get them off www.forix.com as they receive their race results from the officials. Yes I know formula1.com is official but not 100% official in statistics. If you decide to leave it as Ret then you must give all the drivers a race start count!

I have spend hours in researching and asking many F1 statistician who are famous and know more on Grand Prix. All the statisian I have contacted and got back told me it is actually DNS not Ret, they also have mention the formula1.com is not very accurate with their race results. The formula1.com is incorrect as listing as ret instead of DNS for 2005-USA. This were the responses from the following people. Renowned F1 statistians, like David Hayhoe or Autosport's Peter Higham agree that all Michelin drivers were DNS in 2005-USA, but consider a RET if a driver didn't made a re-start, for example. That was the common view in the past - no contemporary source listed Lauda as a DNS in 1976-Germany - and they simply ignore the current "null and void" FIA rule. I totally agree to change it as DNS not Ret as they didn't take part on the first lap.

Here is a intersting fact. Button will start his 100th race start in the 2005-China race. But according to wikipedia when doing the math by adding all Button race starts it would be his 101st race start in China as Button has been listed as Ret instead of DNS for this year 2005-USA race. Does this make sense to you. That means wikipedia will have an extra race start for all the drivers who have no started in the 2005 USA race have an extra race start which wouldn't be official to the drivers stats.

I am trying to help you all to have accurate data on Formula 1 on wikipedia. I DO beleive the formula1.com site doesn't not give out accurate race classifications. As I have been involved with FORIX and autosport.com for many years as my job is to look for incorrect data on their server. Andreas 04 October 09:36

Deletion Review
Hi. You were involved in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Votes for undeletion which looked to establish a Deletion Review process in place of VfU. There is now a discussion about how we might construct the mechanics of such a process. The current proposal suggests that debates be relisted on AfD if there is a majority of editors wanting to overturn the debate (usually on procedural grounds) and that the alternative result be implemented if it is supported by three-quarters of editors. Please call by Wikipedia talk:Votes for undeletion/Deletion review proposal when you can to discuss. Thanks. Tito xd (?!?) 01:59, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Systemwars.com
Hi. Can I get your opinion of Tony's latest recreation and relisting of a valid VfD deletion at Articles for deletion/Systemwars.com (second version). Thanks. - Tεx  τ  urε  15:48, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Seeking input from people with some sense
Personal attack intervention noticeboard. - brenneman <sup style="color:#2f4f4f;">(t) <sup style="color:#2f4f4f;">(c)  07:44, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

My RfA
Since you let me know when you were up for adminship, I thought I would return the favor. I would appreciate anything you have to say, whether you support or oppose me. Thank you! H e rmione1980My RfA 16:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Er...I need help. What on God's green earth is MeatBall and do I need to take a crash course on something over there? H e rmione1980 20:51, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your support on my RfA; I really appreciate it! I will do my best to live up to the trust you've shown in me. With bells on. :-) Thanks, H e rmione1980 23:21, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Pacman Template
thanks for pruning that template. :) --larsinio 18:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Albert M. Wolters
Nandesuka, Long time no chat. I'm having a cow over an article for deletion discussion that has been re-opened. I get bloody pissed off at this whole "superuser's opinions count more" thing. I haven't yet formulated an appropiate response for Tony_Sidaway's talk, but in the past you've managed to put things to him more eloquently than I. Do you have any thoughts?

brenneman <sup style="color:#2f4f4f;">(t) <sup style="color:#2f4f4f;">(c) 03:52, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

PinkMonkey and study guides
Hi- I agree the user is "spamming" in a sense, focusing only on PinkMonkey study guides, but at the same time, the study guides contain good material. There are about 10 different "Cliff Note" companies that now offer free study guides of classic literature (see freebooknotes.com for an aggregator service). These are legitimate, containing character lists, analysis, plot summaries, etc.. often as good as Cliff Note. Im just not sure how to deal with them on Wikipedia as they often contain banner ads for support. Stbalbach 00:35, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, look at Frankenstein for example. There are six services offering free book notes (Book Rags, Book Wolf, Novel Guide, Classic Notes, Pink Monkey, Spark Notes). They all seem unique. Maybe not? Its hard to tell. But they all use banner adds for support, which is not a crime in particular if the content is valuable. Study guides are legit items for Wikipedia inclusion. Stbalbach 01:37, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Ainu People
Hi, i've written a page on Uriel's Machine which may tie in with the piece about the Ainu - there is a theory that they are related to ancient Europeans (if you classify them as cocasian, or see the language as similar to Basque.  As your intro page shows that you have an interest can you advise me?  I don't want to tread on anyones toes. Thanks Pydos 12:13, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Wizard Of Wor
Hello there, I created a Wizard Of Wor article and found out it was on your to-do list. Take a look. — J I P | Talk 15:55, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Foreskin
Hi again. :-) Could you keep an eye on the foreskin article? I'm currently in mediation with Walabio, and so I'm voluntarily refraining from reverting it, but there is an ongoing effort to insert POV claims into the introduction. Jakew 16:48, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Ah, I see Jakew got here first. Well I echo his request, would you mind taking a look at the Foreskin article? From what I can tell, people are inserting claims that have no medical basis. Thanks. Jayjg <small style="color:darkgreen;">(talk) 17:15, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Reply
I thank you for unblocking me this time and sending a message, but I really think this is an exercise in political correctness, what am I supposed to do now? ask you to unblock my bot? If you have been following the rationle behind the original block you would probably find this whole thing as bizaar as I do. AllyUnion blocked it due to a dispute with another editor, it is now mostly resolved, but I am not going to use my bot for that purpose until it is fully resolved. Unless you don't trust me to use my bot (as i have some re-categorisation to do) I would ask you to unblock it please. Or at least explain why you think further blocking is warranted. Martin  17:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Thats why it is so bizaar, their is only one disagreeing party (Noisy), and he is disagreeing with the guideline that my bot is following, he seems to think I need a concensus to do what I was doing, but a concensus has clearly been establisted, hence the guidline. He is the one who needs a concensus to change the guideline, and no one else seems to agree with him which makes it even more crazy. Oh well, I'll contact AllyUnion, thanks.  Martin   17:16, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Did you just block me again? I don't understand?  Martin   18:37, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok what happened was you blocked "User:User:Bluebot" by accident (a typo) then that carried on auto blocking me and bluebot, even though another admin unblocked bluebot.  Martin   18:50, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

FCYTravis
Hello Nandesuka, see WP:AN/3RR, the block has been undone. R e  dwolf24  (talk) 02:56, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Jeremy Clarkson and POTW
His recent behavior in there has been placed in Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing/Evidence. Please feel free to update any more of his misbehavior, whatever he touches usually seems to devolve into a pointless edit war. Karmafist 18:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

List of Jews
Hi, your afd didn't work because it has already been afded before, you need to use subst:AfDx|2nd (with double curly brackets around it) in these cases. You might want to reconsider though as the article achived strong support in a previous vote Articles for deletion/List of Jews. Arniep 11:39, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

More Listmania on Jewish lists
I haven't seen a single other one for any other ethnicity/religion -- they were probably made by the same person. I would put them all up for deletion but fear that the makers woudl take it in the wrong way. What do you think?

 * List of Jewish Inductees of the National Inventors Hall of Fame
 * List of Jewish Members of the National Academy of Engineering
 * List of Jewish Members of the National Academy of Sciences
 * List of Jewish Recipients of National Medal of Arts
 * List of Jewish Recipients of National Medal of Science
 * List of Jewish Recipients of National Medal of Technology

just to compare

 * List of Inductees of the National Inventors Hall of Fame
 * List of Members of the National Academy of Sciences
 * List of Recipients of National Medal of Science
 * List of Recipients of National Medal of Technology

only 1 exists:
 * List of Recipients of National Medal of Arts

and it was formally a Jewish list that was reverted (propogandist purposes?)

and frankly I think it should be deleted too

65.9.143.76 00:17, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

3RR block
I was wondering if you might willing to address questions raised about your block at WP:AN/3RR. Specifically, have you looked at the arbcomm decision and Fred's reply to my question on the talk page? I don't see how reverting "The same dishonest people pushing that agenda now push global warming." needs any explanation. The arbcomm decision was meant to avoid "sterile revert wars". Can you explain how you interpreted the ArbComm decision to mean that William needed to explain reverts of nonsense? Doesn't that fall under the idea of "unreasonably burdensome"? Guettarda 03:59, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Castle Amber & Zelazny
LOL, you know, because of your comments on the Castle Amber X2 article, looking for a possible Zelazny reference, I've started to read the Amber series. Not bad at all so far. Just thought I would share that with you.--Azathar 06:45, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

NPoV
In the light of User:72.234.99.65's latest edit to the talk page (not to mention previous discussion there), please replace the NPoV tag which you have wrongly removed from Jeremy Clarkson. Andy Mabbett 11:11, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Not to mention your on-going debate, with one of the people who's disputing the neutrality... Andy Mabbett 14:20, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Reversions on Jeremy Clarkson
Regardless of your involvement in this article, you shouldn't use the rollback button unless it's clear vandalism (blanking, nonsense, etc.) Rollback should be reserved for actual vandalism only. For content disputes, please use a normal edit summary. Ral315 (talk) 17:49, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the reminder; you are correct. Convenience breeds laziness. Nandesuka 18:35, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Circumcision advocacy
Hello again. I would be grateful for a third opinion as to whether much or all of this article constitutes original research. There is some existing discussion at Talk:Circumcision advocacy. Would appreciate your comments. Jakew 14:18, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks. Since the page is currently locked, I can't list it for AfD. Since you're an admin, could you either do so and/or unprotect it (whatever you think is most appropriate)? Jakew 15:32, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Since I've been active on various circumcision-related pages, I'm not comfortable using admin powers to do that. But I'll ask around. Nandesuka 15:34, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
 * That's fair enough. I appreciate whatever you can do. Jakew 15:39, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

title: User talk:Nandesuka/Archive 1


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File:Remnants Book1.jpg

Summary
Scan of the cover of The Mayflower Project, book 1 of Remnants.

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

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Norbert Glante

Norbert Glante (born 8 August 1952, in Caputh) is a German politician who served as a Member of the European Parliament from 1994 until 2014. He is a member of the Social Democratic Party of Germany, part of the Socialist Group. During his time in parliament, Glante sat on the European Parliament's Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Food Safety. He also served as a member for the Committee on Industry, Research and Energy, a member of the Delegation to the EU-Chile Joint Parliamentary Committee and a substitute for the Delegation for relations with Mercosur. He was the Parliament's rapporteur on the Galileo satellite navigation system and cogeneration.

Career

 * 1969-1972: Apprenticeship as electrical engineer, VEB Elektronische Bauelemente, Teltow
 * 1973-1976: Test bench mechanic, VEB Elektronische Bauelemente, Teltow
 * 1974-1976: Advanced school-leaving certificate, adult education institute
 * 1976-1980: Studied automation technology in Leipzig
 * 1980-1984: Design engineer, VEB Elektronische Bauelemente, Teltow
 * 1984-1990: Computer scientist, Central Institute for Geophysics, Potsdam
 * 1990-1994: Chairman of Potsdam district council
 * 1994-2014: Member of the European Parliament

Education

 * Chairman of Brandenburg regional association of the Europa Union
 * Member of the Europe House, Brandenburg
 * Member of the German-Polish Society
 * Member of the German War Graves Commission
 * Member of the European Energy Foundation
 * founder member of the European Internet Foundation
 * 2010: Member of the policy steering committee, Potsdam City of Culture

Decorations

 * Bundesverdienstkreuz with ribbon

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Laurel Caverns

Laurel Caverns is the largest cave in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania by volume and area. Located in the community of Farmington, it sits on the Chestnut Ridge near Uniontown, roughly 50 mi southeast of Pittsburgh.

Initially an unregulated wild cave that was known by locals and word of mouth as "Dulany's Cave" (alternate spelling: "Dulaney's Cave") during the early 1900s, it was owned, during the 1930s, by Norman Cale and his brother, and then later by Cale and his wife, Helen, who opened it to the general public as a show cave on July 1, 1964, and marketed it as "the caverns in the clouds".

History and notable features
Named after Thomas Dulany, the early nineteenth-century owner of the land where the cave was located and first achieved local prominence, Dulany Cave (alternate spelling: "Dulaney's Cave") was reportedly first explored on September 11, 1816, by a party of six men. Headed by John A. Paxton of Philadelphia, that party "tried all passages, even those so small that they had to wriggle or crawl to get through". Describing the last section reached by the team, Paxton described it as the cave's largest, adding:

"'This we found to be very spacious, being from 20 to 30 feet wide, from 30 to 80 feet from the floor to the roof, and 1,200 feet in length, with a stream sufficient to turn a grist-mill running its full length. We measured with a line the extreme distance we had been in, and found it to be 3,600 feet, but we must have traveled altogether upwards of two miles.'"

Still known by locals as "Dulany's Cave" in 1915, it remained an unregulated wild cave well into the 1950s. Even so, by the 1930s, it was a popular attraction for church groups and visiting guests of area residents, who arranged for tours headed by Don Helmick and other knowledgeable guides.

Owned by Uniontown brothers Norman and Roy Cale, beginning sometime around the 1930s, the land near the cavern became the subject of historical research regarding the eighteenth-century operation of Fort Contrechoeur, a stockade that had been erected by the French between 1747 and 1748 during the French and Indian Wars.

By the 1940s, Halloween-themed events were being held inside the cave, billed as opportunities to "explore the dark caverns with the live bats that fly from one end of the cave to the other". During the mid-1950s, the Cales began exploring ways to convert the wild cave into a for-profit tourist attraction.

Still owned by Norman Cale during the 1960s, but now in collaboration with his wife, Helen, the cave was officially opened it to the general public as a show cave on July 1, 1964, with the Cales marketing it as "the caverns in the clouds".

It was then purchased from the Cales later that same year by Emmett J. Boyle Jr. and Ned J. Nakles, two lawyers from Greensburg and Latrobe, who made several safety and entertainment value-related improvements, including the installation of roughly twenty-five miles of electrical cable that supported a new theatrical lighting system.

This cavern features an array of speleological and pseudokarsts formations. Its average temperature is 52 °F (11 °C).

Split into two sections, the entrance into the upper cavern is a network of interconnecting grid-like passages, while its unlit lower cavern, known as its branch-work, consists of subterranean watercourses that flow into a dendritic system of passages.

The steep slope of some passageways on this tour causes an optical illusion known as a gravity hill, similar to the illusion of a ball rolling uphill.

Operators offer a three-hour tour, which includes gravity hill, as well as the cavern's lower branchwork, which is unlit. Because the terrain remains unaltered here, cavern rules require visitors to use helmets and lighting when climbing or crawling over breakdown piles or other obstructions to reach the caverns' chambers and chasmal courses.

The cavern grounds also offer visitors access to a gift shop, mini-golf course, the opportunity to pan for gemstones, and fossil-study activities, and also serve as a wildlife viewing locale during operations to tourists. As a popular destination for school field trips, the cavern's owners have adopted a no firearms policy.

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Salomon Isacovici

Salomon Isacovici (1924 – February 1998) was a Jewish Holocaust survivor who became a writer and businessman in Ecuador. Born in Romania, he moved to Ecuador following World War II, and co-authored with Juan Manuel Rodriguez the book Man of Ashes.

Personal life
Isacovici grew up in Sighetu Marmaţiei on his parents' farm. In 1944 he was interned at the Auschwitz concentration camp, is both the Auschwitz I and Auschwitz II-Birkenau camps. He escaped during a massacre, was shot, recaptured and sent to the Gross-Rosen concentration camp. He remained there until U.S. soldiers liberated the camp.

At the end of the war, he returned to his original home only to find another family in residence. He joined a Zionist group and considered emigrating to Palestine. Instead, in 1948, he followed his sweetheart to Ecuador, and beginning with menial jobs, rose to become a successful businessman. He was deeply concerned that the treatment of Ecuadorian indigenous peoples by the Spanish was comparable to those in the concentration camps of Nazi Germany.

Man of Ashes
A book co-authored by Isacovici and Juan Manuel Rodriguez was published in Mexico in 1990 as A7393: Hombre de Cenizas. The book recounted Isacovici's youth in Romania, his years in Nazi Germany, and his eventual emigration to Ecuador. It was described by its publisher as a "cruel and truthful testimony of the Nazi concentration camps". The book was awarded the Fernando Jeno literary prize by Mexico's Jewish community in 1991.

In 1995, the University of Nebraska Press planned to an English-language version, with a translation by Dick Gerdes, a professor at George Mason University in Virginia. The university press described the book as important to Holocaust studies as a rare account of a Romanian and Latin American Jew. However, its publication was delayed by a dispute about the book's principal authorship and status as a novel or autobiography. Isacovici asserted that the book was his memoir, and that he had hired Rodriguez to improve the Spanish text. Rodriguez threatened legal action, stating that the book was fictionalized, incorporated some of his own memories, and argued he was the main author and should be credited as such. The controversy has been critiqued as an example of literary usurpation and as an attempt to cast doubt on a Holocaust survivor's experience.

The English translation was published in 1999 with Isacovici and Rodriguez listed as co-authors.

Death
Isacovici died of cancer in February 1998, a year before the publication of the English translation of Man of Ashes.

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Tuncay Şanlı

Tuncay Volkan Şanlı (born 16 January 1982), often known mononymously as Tuncay, is a Turkish former footballer.

He naturally played as a striker, but was also positioned as an attacking midfielder and on either wing. He was in the Turkey team that finished in third place in both the 2003 Confederations Cup and the 2008 European Championships. With 22 international goals in 80 caps, he is Turkey's third-highest scorer of all time, and tenth-most capped player.

Tuncay began his career with his local club, Sakaryaspor before joining one of the largest clubs in Turkey, Fenerbahçe in 2002. He became a popular player at the Şükrü Saracoğlu Stadium and he made international headlines after he scored a hat-trick against Manchester United in the UEFA Champions League in December 2004. After winning three Süper Lig titles with Fenerbahçe he left for English club Middlesbrough on a free transfer.

Tuncay spent two seasons with Middlesbrough and won the player of the year award in 2009, but he was unable to help them avoid relegation. Following their relegation Tuncay joined Stoke City in August 2009 for a fee of £5 million. He was unable to earn a regular place under manager Tony Pulis and joined German side VfL Wolfsburg in January 2010. He failed to settle in Germany and returned to England in 2011–12 with Bolton Wanderers. Tuncay then went on to play for Bursaspor and Qatar side Umm Salal.

Fenerbahçe
Tuncay caught the eye of Turkish Süper Lig giants Fenerbahçe in 2002 at the age of 20 after impressive displays for his hometown club Sakaryaspor in the Turkish second tier. He signed a five-year contract with Fenerbahçe, and during this time, he won the Turkish league title on three occasions. He made his competitive debut for Fenerbahçe in a Süper Lig match against Gaziantepspor on 11 September 2002. On 8 December 2004, Tuncay became only the second person to ever score a Champions League hat-trick against Manchester United, and the first Turkish person to score a hat-trick in the Champions League. During his five years at the club, he scored a total of 12 Champions League goals in 26 appearances for Fenerbahçe. His first being against Panathinaikos in a 4–1 defeat in the second round of the 2002–03 UEFA Cup. After he had left Fenerbahçe, his former manager, Brazilian Legend Zico, stated: "Tuncay has been a great loss to us, he was the one giving us the soul and the hope. Now that he is gone we miss that piece of soul and hope. He is a great person, and I wish him the best of luck in his new team. Even though he is now gone, I still wish he will come back."

Middlesbrough
On 13 June 2007, Middlesbrough confirmed they had agreed personal terms with Tuncay and the move was now subject to a medical. Tuncay arrived in Middlesbrough on 18 June 2007, having signed a four-year contract. After passing his medical on 22 June 2007, he attained a work permit on 4 July 2007, and completed his free transfer. In July 2007, Tuncay was interviewed by the Evening Gazette and talked about his ambitions for the upcoming season. He said: "My aim was to play in Europe one day and I have done that in previous seasons. It is also very important for me to play in the Premier League and that, too, is going to happen. But I want to get Middlesbrough back into Europe. That is my target. " On 15 July 2007, Tuncay made his debut in a Boro shirt against German team Schalke 04 in Austria. Known for his passionate affinity with fans at his beloved Fenerbahçe, Tuncay developed the same kind of relationship with the fans of Middlesbrough. His efforts were not unnoticed, with Middlesbrough supporters singing in his favour, "We've only got one player!" in reference to their admiration of his non-stop attitude.

Tuncay's endless energy and passion shown during matches has won him many plaudits. In May 2009, Matt Le Tissier of Sky Sports acknowledged his performances: "If they [Boro] had 11 Tuncay's they'd be in the top half of the table; this boy is quality, he works his socks off as well. He showed great technique with the overhead kick and was a great example for the rest of the team – it's just a shame there are not a few more like him in the side." The 2008–09 season saw him pick up all four of the club's major awards for 2009: the Players Player of the Year, Garmin Player of the Year, the Middlesbrough F.C. Official Supporters' Club Prize and the Terrace Legends Award. He won the Player of the Year with a massive 75% of the vote.

Although the 2008–09 season was a successful one for Tuncay, Middlesbrough were relegated to the Championship after a terrible season, which saw them create a new club-record, and match a League record of 12 consecutive away defeats. Tuncay had expressed his desire to continue playing in the Premier League. However, he began the 2009–10 season as a Boro player and played in 3 matches in the Championship, coming on as a substitute in all 3 games. He scored two goals in the process: the third goal in a 3–0 victory away to Swansea City in the second league game of the season, and the following week, scored the first goal in a 2–0 victory against Doncaster Rovers, scoring within 60 seconds of coming on. He turned down the chance to move abroad, after German Bundesliga clubs Wolfsburg and Stuttgart and Spanish La Liga side Villarreal making offers for him, in favour of staying in England. Prior to the end of the transfer window, he left Middlesbrough and joined Premier League side Stoke City.

2007–08 season
Tuncay took time to settle in the Premier League. He went 12 league games without a goal but then scored three in three games. The first was a headed goal from a Luke Young cross, on 1 December 2007 in a 1–1 draw against Reading. The second, the following week, was the winner in a 2–1 victory over Arsenal. His third, in a 1–0 victory over Derby County, was a superb volley from a Stewart Downing cross which won the BBC Match of the Day Goal of the Month award for December 2007, and was later nominated for Goal of the Season.

On 29 December 2007, he scored his fourth goal in Boro's 1–0 away victory against Portsmouth which was the first time in 54 years that Middlesbrough had won at Fratton Park in the top flight. His next goal was a seventh-minute header against Liverpool to give Middlesbrough the lead. However, a Fernando Torres hattrick, meant Middlesbrough lost 3–2 at Anfield. On the 31st match day of the season he again scored the winning goal against Derby County in a match that ended 1–0. Tuncay then scored two goals against Sunderland and Portsmouth later on in the season to take his tally to eight goals for the season. In his first season for Middlesbrough he was their second leading goal scorer behind Stewart Downing with nine.

2008–09 season
Tuncay started off the season brightly, his first league goal being the winner against Stoke City, in the third league game of the season. After a knee injury while playing for Turkey against Belgium in the World Cup Qualifiers in early September 2008, Tuncay was sidelined for five weeks. He returned to first team action against Blackburn Rovers on 10 October, and scored an overhead kick goal which was wrongly ruled out for offside. Tuncay scored his first brace in the Premier League in a 2–1 away win at Aston Villa on 9 November 2008.

In December 2008, newspapers speculated that he was wanted by Chelsea in the January 2009 transfer window; Gareth Southgate laughed off the rumours suggesting that Chelsea could get him for such a small fee, saying that if he was even to start to consider selling him, then Chelsea's bid would have to be much higher. Tuncay scored two goals in as many games; during his side's 2–0 victories over both West Ham in the FA Cup and against Liverpool in the league, with the latter bringing an end to both Liverpool's 15-match unbeaten run, and Boro's 14-match winless run in the league. The win against West Ham takes Boro to their fourth Quarter Final in the FA Cup in four consecutive seasons. Against Tottenham in March, he had 2 goals again ruled out for offside, in a game which Tottenham defeated Boro 4–0. April 2009 saw Tuncay score Boro's quickest goal of the season, just 3 minutes into the game. The match, against Hull City, finished 3–1 to Middlesbrough in what was described as a "must-win game" by manager Gareth Southgate.

In May 2009 he was named Boro's Player of the Year. On 16 May, in the penultimate game of the season, he scored a superb overhead kick goal against Aston Villa, which won him another BBC Goal of the Month award. In the vital game, an injury to captain Stewart Downing in the 23-minute meant that Tuncay took the captain's armband. This was the first time he has played as captain for Boro, and played a vital role in midfield. Despite Tuncay's efforts, Middlesbrough were relegated at the end of the 2008–09 season after suffering a 2–1 defeat away to West Ham. Middlesbrough had spent the whole second half of the season in the relegation zone. In the final game of the season Tuncay, Boro's captain, provided the assist to Boro's goal, however could not lead Middlesbrough to the win they desperately needed. In a disappointing season which saw Boro score only 28 league goals, Tuncay ended the season as their top scorer with 7 league goals, a quarter of Boro's total.

Stoke City
Tuncay signed for Stoke City on 28 August 2009 for a fee of £5 million and signed a four-year contract. He became manager Tony Pulis' fifth signing of the summer transfer window, having also signed his Middlesbrough teammate Robert Huth the previous day. He was eligible to play for Stoke the day after his transfer in the fourth league game of the season, and made his debut coming on as a substitute for Ricardo Fuller in the 84th minute, against Sunderland at the Britannia Stadium. He made his first start for Stoke in a third-round League Cup game against Blackpool, setting up two goals and winning a penalty. He continued to make only brief substitute appearances in the Premier League. A significant moment came during an away match to Hull on 8 November 2009, in which he was substituted off in the 87th minute after only coming on six minutes earlier. Although much was made after the event, Tuncay subsequently denied rumours that he was unhappy and insisted that his future lies with the Premier League club. After eight brief substitute league appearances, he made his first start away to Arsenal on 5 December 2009. He scored his first goal for Stoke in the Premier League on 12 December 2009 in a home match against Wigan. He also scored the first premier league goal of 2010 when he headed a 12th-minute goal against Fulham on 5 January. Over the course of the season Tuncay only started 13 games.

During pre-season for the 2010–11, Tuncay scored five goals in five games. However, the season started with Tuncay making just a handful of substitute appearances in the League. He has stated that he would like to be playing regular first team football, and would consider a move away in January 2011 in order to find this. He scored his first goal of the season against Shrewsbury Town in the League Cup. He followed this up with a stunning goal against Manchester United on 24 October 2010. On 27 November 2010, Tuncay played a major role in the 92nd minute against Manchester City, assisting Matthew Etherington for an equalising goal in a 1–1 draw. Tuncay made his final appearance for Stoke City against Fulham in the Premier League on 22 January 2011. He left Stoke on the final day of the January transfer window joining German side Wolfsburg.

VfL Wolfsburg
Tuncay joined German side Wolfsburg on 31 January for a fee of €5.2 million. On 25 July 2012, he was released when his contract which was still running until June 2014 was cancelled in mutual consent after making only five appearances.

Bolton Wanderers (loan)
On 11 August 2011, Tuncay agreed to sign for Bolton Wanderers on loan for the 2011–12 season with a view to a £3 million permanent move at the loan's conclusion. The clearance was given on 23 August and Tuncay scored on his Bolton Wanderers debut in the League Cup tie against Macclesfield Town a day later. He made his league debut on 27 August, coming on as a substitute for Chris Eagles in Bolton's 3–1 defeat at Liverpool. Tuncay made 22 appearances for Bolton in 2011–12 as the Trotters suffered relegation on the final day of the season.

Bursaspor
Tuncay joined Bursaspor on 3 September 2012. On 5 February 2014, his contract was mutually terminated.

Umm Salal
On 31 July 2014, Tuncay signed a one-year deal with Qatar Stars League side Umm Salal.

Pune City
Tuncay was signed by Indian Super League Side FC Pune City to play with them for their Second Season. On his first match with the Pune on 5 October 2015, he scored 2 goals and became man of the match.

Senior team
For a period of time Tuncay was the vice-captain of the Turkey national team behind the main captain Emre Belözoğlu, and has scored 22 international goals in 80 appearances to date. Tuncay scored two international hat-tricks for Turkey during his international career. His first came against Switzerland in the 2006 World Cup qualifying play-off match. The game ended 4–2, however the Swiss advanced due to the away goals rule, and meant Turkey would not play in the finals of the 2006 World Cup. His second international hattrick came in November 2008 in a friendly with Austria.

Confederations Cup 2003
Turkey took part in the FIFA Confederations Cup for the first time in 2003 after finishing third at the World Cup the previous year. Tuncay made his full international debut for the Turkey national team on 19 June 2003, having been promoted the day before when he scored twice in a match for the Under-21 side. His debut came against the United States. Just three minutes after the opponents had taken the lead, he won a penalty after being fouled by Danny Califf and Frankie Hejduk, and Okan Yılmaz converted it to equalise. Tuncay then went on to score the winner in the second half, after picking up Volkan Arslan's cross to slot the ball past the American goalkeeper Tim Howard. He went on to score three goals and get an assist which won him the Silver Shoe Award and the Silver Ball Award, for the second best player, at the competition. Turkey finished in third place. He won many plaudits during the competition, with The Daily Telegraph claiming that Turkey "have unearthed a gem". Tuncay, along with Argentina's Gabriel Batistuta, currently holds the record for scoring the quickest goal in the history of the Confederations Cup for scoring within 120 seconds.

Euro 2008
During the qualifying rounds of the tournament, Tuncay played eleven games, scoring three goals. He won his 50th international cap on 21 November 2007 in the final qualification game against Bosnia-Herzegovina. Turkey won 1–0 which secured a place in the finals of Euro 2008 the following summer. Tuncay played a major part in Turkey's progression to the semi-finals in Austria and Switzerland, as Turkey came from behind to win three games and earn the title "Comeback Kings". In the final group-stage game of Euro 2008, against the Czech Republic, Tuncay went in goal to play as a goalkeeper for the final few minutes, after starting goalkeeper Volkan Demirel was sent off for a push on Jan Koller, and Turkey having made all their substitutions. He picked up a second yellow card in the quarter-finals against Croatia which meant that he was suspended for the semi-finals against Germany. Drawing 2–2 until the 90th minute, having just scored minutes earlier to bring the score level, Turkey were undone by a German team who themselves had to come from behind to win the game. Tuncay registered two assists, in his four games during the 2008 European Championships finals.

2010 World Cup Qualifying
After a World Cup qualifier on 6 September 2008 between Armenia and Turkey, two sides which have historical political problems, both teams received a FIFA Fair Play Award for 2008. As captain of the side, Tuncay collected the award on behalf of the team in January 2009. During the qualifying round Tuncay managed three goals and two assists in the seven games he played, although Turkey failed to qualify from Group 5.

Style of play
He is most suited to playing in the 'hole' or as a second striker, but can also play right across the midfield and in attack.

International

 * Scores and results list Turkey's goal tally first, score column indicates score after each Tuncay goal.

Honours
Fenerbahçe
 * Süper Lig: 2003–04, 2004–05, 2006–07

Turkey
 * UEFA European Championship bronze medalist:2008
 * 2003 FIFA Confederations Cup bronze medalist

Individual
 * FIFA Confederations Cup Silver Ball: 2003
 * FIFA Confederations Cup Silver Shoe: 2003
 * Fenerbahçe Player of the Year: 2005–06, 2006–07
 * Middlesbrough F.C. Players Player of the Year: 2008–09
 * Garmin Player of the Year: 2008–09
 * Middlesbrough F.C. Official Supporters' Club Prize: 2008–09
 * Middlesbrough Terrace Legends Award: 2008–09
 * Middlesbrough F.C. top scorer: 2008–09
 * BBC Goal of the Month Award: December 2007, May 2009
 * North East Player of the Year: Third Place (2009)

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Benedictus

Benedictus, Latin for "blessed" or "a blessed person", may refer to:

Music

 * "Benedictus" (canticle), also called the "Canticle of Zachary", a canticle in the Gospel of Lukas
 * Part of the "Sanctus", a hymn and part of the eucharistic prayer in Western Christianity
 * Various musical interpretations of it
 * "Benedictus" a song by Simon & Garfunkel from their 1964 album Wednesday Morning, 3 A.M.
 * "Benedictus" (Strawbs song), a song by Strawbs on their 1972 album Grave New World

People

 * Benedictus (given name)
 * David Benedictus (born 1938), English novelist and theatre director
 * Kyle Benedictus (born 1991), Scottish footballer
 * Édouard Bénédictus (1879–1930), French chemist who invented laminated glass

title: Benedictus