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User talk:Djrobgordon

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==hi thank you for the Sarah college picture

== Argonsa1 23:46, 13 August 2006 (UTC)eric thanks for the Sarah college picture

Baseball on Wikicities
Hello Djrobgoron, Googie Man here and I want to ask you something as a fellow editor of baseball related articles on Wikipedia. Jimbo and Angela have made a new webstie called Wikicities. This link in particular will take you to the baseball Wikicity. As you'll see it's similar to Wikipedia, but my hope is this will allow baseball fans to do more and different things, like reporting on games, in depth statistics, create mulitple pages for pictures, and whatever else baseball fans care to create. You've done great work on Wikipedia and I was hoping you could help get this baseball Wikicity off the ground. Please let me know what you think either at my talk page, or you can email me at terry@wikia.com. Thanks!  Googie Man ( Talk), 20:00, 6 January 2006 (UTC).

TIME Covers
I noticed that you named several TIME Covers with a series of numbers. Was there any particular system you were using? I was just curious :) --Esprit15d 19:41, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, I'm just now reading your user page, and we have a similar wp philosophy. I, probably even more, actually do more editing that writing.  And you are the go-to guy for TIME covers.  Excellent.  Thanks again.--Esprit15d 13:19, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Disambig
Thanks for fixing the disambig on my user page. Cheers! –Comics (Talk) 00:40, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Pictures
Its that I really think the article is in need of some pictures. The article looks really bare. I put a post on the article's discussion board. Courier new 19:10, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Babe Ruth
Yes it looks good. I wrote about 80-90% of the article, but have not had the time or committement to do a rewrite to shorten it, so I appreciate you taking the time. Here are some of my suggestions:

1. In the 1921 season, it is mentioned Ruth went to Columbia for a series of tests part. This entire paragraph can be deleted. I did not add it, and it was not referenced, so it can be deleted. I added all the book references in the article, since no part of the article had any references other than random external links before I started working on it.

2. In 1932, after "the called shot" line, there are two paragraphs that you probably do not need, as in the separate called shot article also goes into detail on this.

3. Near the end, the two paragraphs that mention the Maris asterisk in 1961, the records books, etc., both of these paragraphs can be deleted since they were not referenced. The Maris asterisk information belongs more on the Roger Maris article.

4. Just a grammatical suggestion, the first paragraph in the 1922 season is long, so you will want to split this up. The line beginning with "While Ruth..." should start a new paragraph.

5. My personal preference is the death should be the last main section of any article, as I just think it looks better. Of course many references, Encyclopedia Britannica, and some Wikipedia biographical articles sometimes deviate from this, so it certainly is no rule. You added personality and impact sections after the death section, so let me address those sections and why I put them where I did.

I put the personality section after the 1928 season because it breaks up the monotony of the article, that is, the year by year analysis of Ruth's baseball seasons is probably too much for many readers. Putting the personality section in the middle gives the reader a break from all the baseball talk and baseball numbers, and some readers probably are more interested in Ruth the man than anything he did on the field. It also fits chronologically; Ruth's first wife died in 1929, and he married his second wife later in 1929. If I ever add more information to this article, it will be  about his personality, as this part I wrote seems now sketchy and incomplete to me.

Ruth's impact on the game was immediate, so this section, in my opinion, would neccessitate it being mentioned when Ruth was dramatically changing the game, which was the early 1920's.  This part you cut down, but I would tend to keep the great majority of the section because the effect he had on the game was as important as his individual accomplishments. With all the other parts I suggested we can delete, this will not add any length to the article.

Try my suggestions and then see how the article looks, as I think it would give it just the right fine tuning. Other than that the article looks fine to me, nice work djroggordon. --LibraryLion 21:40, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Two articles option
Djrodgordon, here is another option to think about, an option that would give you more creativity. Your rewrite (when finished) will be the shorter Ruth article, while the longer detailed article is kept almost in full, so there would be two articles. A few Wikipedia biographical entries have two separate articles for the same person, one a short biography, the other a longer more detailed one (Isaac Newton e.g.)

You would have more freedom as far as writing the text in your style, content (as long as the information does not conflict) section headings, photos, etc. Of course you can use the exact sentences and paragraphs from mine if you want, and not have to reword anything. You could also just keep what you have done so far, but now you could cut out a great deal more information. This shorter article you construct would be the main Ruth article (since it would be more reader friendly for the casual reader). At the top of this article would be a link saying “For a more detailed biography of Babe Ruth,” or something like that, in which case this link would lead to the longer article.

The reason I am suggesting this is to give you freedom about not having to worry about what I or others want in the article. Already I have told you about “this should be in” and "this should be there,” and I might do more of the same, but I am sure you have your own ideas. One problem someone will have in cutting down a text he or she did not write, is you want to reword something, or organize it a little differently, but since one did not do the original research you feel limited and cautious what you can change. Even though I wrote the article, at the same time I do not want you to cater to me because it limits what you may want to do.  Whether one or two articles, either way it does not matter to me.  --LibraryLion 09:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

FYI Marco Benz
Marco Benz was recognized as a Poster acoss the nation of the United States to recruit soldiers is worthy of its own by Marco Benz to be chosen. The U.S. Navy has done so with Marta_Tuyet_Dodd and she is there is a notable her own here on wikipedia.Saigon76nyc 14:17, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Civil Rights Heroes
Thanks for the discussion of this short article. I'll try to create a category because otherwise these minor figures will slip thru the cracks. Best wishes. Ross PlaetzerRossp 20:04, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Ross Hedvicek
Thank you for you kind words and promise to step in if necessary. Those Czech people reverted the article again. I will grateful if you could step in and stop it. Thanks. Greetings from Fort Myers, FL Ross.Hedvicek 01:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

If you think references are "questionable", please dispute them in Talk. From what you have written ''However, do give foreign-language references where appropriate. If quoting from a foreign-language source, an English translation should be given with the original-language quote beside it.'' (WP:CITE) This is simply not true. This is your speculation about my motives, which I consider a bit unjust. They were inluded in good faith as English summary why include non-English refs Lupa is in Czech internet completely comparable to Wired. It cals him a spammer. Wikipedia is NPOV encyclopedia. NPOV says that the article should fairly represent all significant viewpoints, in proportion to the prominence of each. Failing to include most common view as unsubstantiated accusation is a mistake. NPOV is even stronger principle than citing references, so it should be included - if "factually undisputed" - even if unsourced. Please note nobody factually disputed Ross is a spammer. --Wikimol 02:30, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * First off, there shouldn't be any links here that aren't in English. As this is an English-language encyclopedia, I'd think that should go without saying.
 * They are personal pages, not reputable, verifiable sources.
 * The tone of the accompanying notes shows that their inclusion is not without an agenda.
 * If Wired calls Hedvicek a troll, we can include it here.
 * Otherwise, it doesn't belong. Wikipedia is not a venue for flame wars.

Btw as you had approved Ross Hedvicek contributions (To any user who may be Mr. Hedvicek, I don't see your edits as mailicious or unfactual.) and at the same time state This user maintains a strict policy condemning all personal attacks. on your userpage... Either your judgement of what is personal attack is quite different from mine, or you may want to investigate more before giving such approvals. * Miraceti is called ''...well known glib and selfrighteous liar. He is probably a communist, too'' (as communists executed and tortured thousands of people, created forced labour camps etc. in Miraceti's country of origin, a touchy editor may take "probably a communist" attack like "probably a Nazi") This is not relevant to the article, as the article should reflect Hedviceks activity in outside world, and how he behaves on Wikipedia is completely irrelevant. However, approval of Hedvicek's mean of disscussing - consisting mainly of attacks on editors who does not take his side and thanksgiving to anybody who looks like taking his side - would be quite unwelcome side result of the RFC (IMO). --Wikimol 12:18, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It was also brought to my attention that this user Wikimol and his fellow vigilantes attacked in the past in very similar fashion also Czech-born Harvard prof Lubos Motl - while "vigilante" is not comparable to "probable communist", the claim is pure defamation
 * not to mention over and over repeated claims about my hate, harrassment., stalking, etc. (8 of them on the talk page now)

Judgment by numbers – Czech this out.
I resent being unjustifiably, erroneously not to mention libelously called a spammer by my Czech communist enemies. Oh, they claim to not be full-fledged raging Stalinist communists? Well isn’t that special! I guess they take umbrage to their own actions and tactics when they’re used against them. Tough luck – they continue to do it to me so I will make a concerted effort to do it to them.

Let’s look at it from a statistics point of view. According to the Lenin-saluting communist Czech vendetta squad on this board, I am a spammer because several (3-6) people from the Czech Republic think so and called me that. Never mind the fact that they are no longer on my list! Based on the size of my mailing list (which numbers in the thousands) they are just a tiny fraction of a fraction of one percent. However, to some brainwashed Marx-idolizing Czechs it does justify this accusation and they insist on including this derogatory label in my articles.

I claim, here and now, that I and a number of other people hold with utmost conviction that Wikimol, Miraceti and Radouch (together with several of their friends on the Czech Wikipedia) are full-fledged communist Marxists and I respectfully request the right to call them as a such. If such permission is not given, I will call them that anyway – just like they have done to me. I reserve the right (and will exercise it) to include a note about their communist and Marxist allegiances in any articles written about them – even though I doubt any will be written about such impotent and completely irrelevant figures.

Justice for all. After all – we are not living behind the Iron Curtain. They may wish the Iron Curtain still remained and that the glorious Union of Soviet Social Republics was still a formidable power, however, they live a life of delusion. I, as an American citizen, have certain unalienable rights, one of them being the right to freedom of expression and freedom of speech. However, they live in the People’s Republic of China, err, sorry, the Czech Republic, and not in the United States and as such know nothing of personal freedoms, but that does not give them the right to publicly defame me with their libelous tripe. Ross.Hedvicek 18:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/Llamacon (2nd nomination)
Good morning. You participated in a prior deletion discussion of this page. The page was reviewed at Deletion Review and subsequently relisted on AFD. I noticed that you don't appear to have commented in the second AFD discussion yet. So far, there has been scant participation in that discussion. If you feel it's appropriate, please join the conversation. Rossami (talk) 16:51, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi! See Your user page needs adjusted (Good luck with the thesis!Fra nkB 08:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Bill Zebub
Hey -- you mentioned that you might nominate Zebub and his magazine for deletion. I would encourage you to let me know if you do, but please nominate them separately. I think Zebub is barely notable, and if so, only for the magazine, but the magazine isn't just an online thing; I looked into it a little bit. It's a real magazine, been in production for several years, they interview up and coming bands, and have had large numbers of subscribers. Just sharing my research; let me know if you nominate them. Mango juice talk 12:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Re Kirby Puckett
There was a reason he was aquitted, I was mereley stating it. Also, was he ever arrested or charged for urinating in public? No so where is the source for that one? My allegation that it was an imposter is no less valid than the allegation that Kirby Puckett was out and about pissing in parking lots. So perhaps that entire statement should be removed since according to you there is no such thing as "common knowledge" on wikipedia. That would also mean that EVERY single sentence that is unsourced should require a citation or be removed. --E tac 11:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Wrong, both of those things have been stated by local media. Also I didn't know that respcted journalists interview women who CLAIM to have had affairs with athletes and publish everything they say as fact. --E tac 21:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Major League Baseball Draft
''I was considering moving Major League Baseball Draft, and I noticed you'd just moved it to its current place, so I thought I'd ask your opinion. My problem is that this isn't the title of the event, and never has been. I'd like to move the article to First-Year Player Draft, since that's the official title. I also think the current title is a problem because MLB has multiple drafts, and it could just as easily refer to the Rule 5 Draft. I'm posting this on the article talk page as well, but I thought you might have a specific interest. Thanks. --djrobgordon 05:44, 26 January 2007 (UTC)''

 * Yeah, no problem. I only moved it per naming. It was titled MLB Draft, and I simply renamed Major League Baseball draft. I'm not sure on all the drafts on MLB, so if you think it's fine, go ahead. --Borgarde 15:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for the barnstar. I've enjoyed working on this article. BRMo 21:01, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar
You def deserve this

Edit to Mickey Mantle
I noticed you removed some information from the article on Mickey Mantle. It might have been a better idea to discuss the removal of tihs material on the subject's talk page before doing so. While I did not write the original material, I did follow up on the claim that was removed and a quick serach (> 5 mins) on Google revealed the source (which is actually alread listed in references at the bottom of the article) making the information verifiable. While it may be your opinion that Tony Castro is simply writing an unquoted assumption, please remember that the threshold for inclusion of material on Wikipedia is verifiablity - not truth, and that discussion of this on the article's talk page is preferable to simply blanking the material completely. Thanks. Yankees76 05:22, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Thriller dab work
Hi there. I notice that you did some work on disambiguating links to Thriller using AWB. I wanted to point out that a number of those edits resulted in the display of Thriller (disambiguation) on a number of pages. See, for example, Blue Velvet. I'm hoping you'll be able to go back and fix these, but I'm honestly confused as to how it would happen in the first place. Isn't the whole point to avoid linking to disambiguation pages? Cheers. Planetneutral 03:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I know what happened. Thanks for pointing out my mistake.  I'll fix those now. --Djrobgordon 03:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool. There still seems to be substantial opportunity to do dab work on Thriller. Once the main Thriller entry was redirected from the genre entry back to the dab page, it left a ton of links pointing to the dab page that should be pointed to the genre. I think some editors don't consider the broader consequences of changing a redirect like that. Planetneutral 03:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * All fixed. Thanks for being helpful, rather than biting the AWB newbie.  I'll continue to work on this project, now that I know what I'm doing. --Djrobgordon 03:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. I keep trying to use AWB to do dab work, but find that it's quicker and more effective for me to use popups to do dab work, using the popupfixdabs attribute. I just need to put some more effort into it. Then again, I generally found Corhomo easier to use than AWB for dab work, although I love AWB for other things, like adding WikiProject templates to all the articles in a category. Anyway, good luck in your pursuit of proficiency. Planetneutral 04:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Baseball portal
Having myself undertaken the last major reworking of the instant portal and having, with User:Nishkid64, been a principal maintainer thereof, I was quite happy to see your undertaking to get involved in its upkeep and improvement, and I think most of your edits to have been altogether good. I do, though, have some rather substantial objections relative to three or four items, and I will outline those at the portal talk page in the next day or two (I apologize for not having addressed your solicitation of views there sooner; my watchlist even as restricted to the portal talk namespace is a bit too long, and I somehow managed to miss the discussion there). In any case, I look forward to collaborating with you and to our divining for what construction of the portal a consensus might lie. :) Cheers, Joe 21:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Colleges that were once all female colleges that are still open but let men in
I received your message suggesting the name change for Category:Women's Colleges that are Coeducational. I have no question in my mind that it is a valid category, but what to call it escapes me; I must confess, I went back and forth multiple times on what to call it when I was creating the category. I have no problem changing the name--I wasn't particurly attached to what I ended up with, however I'm still learning the ins and outs of Wikipedia. Can you give me some guidance on how to do that efficiently?

Also, on a personal growth and development note, I read several articles on naming categories prior to creating the category, and I was still sort of confused as to the best possible name for the category. I've been a Wikipedia user for a while, and I've wanted to get involved with editing for a while, I want to make sure that I remain as neutral as possible. Though to many the topic of women's schools that have gone co-ed is fairly un-interesting, to those of us who have a tie to schools that have made this change it can be quite inflamitory on both sides for and against. Do you have any suggestions related to the best ways to word things? Is there a page that you personally recomend for issues related to neutrality? Thank you very much for your time and effort. MUW Fan 13:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Also related to this issue
Oh, and I sent the previous message before I read User:Wl219's changes and comments to the category. Though it seems that the needed changes have been made, (I could be wrong, I've gone back and forth in my mind so many times I can't rememember what's what!) :-) I still welcome any input or guidance you might have. Thanks again!  MUW Fan 14:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the message, and for not taking my proposal the wrong way. I was having trouble thinking of how to rename it myself, and I think W1219's suggestion is better than mine.  I agree that it's a valid category.  Actually, the first thing I did when I saw that you'd added it to Sarah Lawrence College was make sure it wasn't a duplicated category, because I was shocked something similar didn't already exist.

 * I'd be glad to help you with any questions you might have about POV, but if you're just talking about this category, it wasn't an issue. The name wasn't biased.  My only concern was that, taken literally, it implied that the schools were simultaneously women only and coeducational.  It was a simple language issue.

 * I'm assuming you've already checked out WP:NPOV, but if you haven't, you should. Also, take a look at WP:CITE.  Often, when another editor deletes text and argues that it doesn't adhere to NPOV, the real problem is that it's not attributed to a source.  A couple of editors went back and forth recently about whether Sarah Lawrence should be called a "selective" college.  It is, of course, but the statement was removed because there wasn't a citation to back it up.  Editors sometimes adhere to this policy to the point of absurdity.  If you want an example, check out any of the six archived discussions on Talk:Wayne Gretzky (one of which I naively inserted myself into) about whether he can be referred to as the "greatest hockey player of all-time."  One more article you should take a look at is WP:WEASEL, as well as some of the "See also" links at the bottom of the page.  There are plenty of legitimate uses for the words and phrases listed, but so many editors remove them on sight that I find it easier to avoid them altogether.

 * If you've been having your edits deleted for POV reasons and still can't figure out why, point me to the articles, and maybe I can figure out the specific issue. Probably, it's something small and easily fixable.  I hope my long-winded answer was somewhat helpful. --Djrobgordon 17:00, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Bopsta
The markup's fixed now. Admittedly I'm not the most knowledgeable about wiki markup, but just removing the tabs in the list of related articles seemed to fix it. Using the : character creates tabs, so that's probably what you're supposed to use. BryanG(talk) 06:52, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. --Djrobgordon 06:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

"Typos fixed: roman → Roman, using AWB)"
Hi, that's what it says in the edit summary on my user page. However, you changed "Roman poet Juvenal" to "poet Juvenal", which does not seem to have been your intention. On the other hand, changing thriller to thriller (genre), which you also did, is of course okay. Best wishes, <KF> 08:24, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. The thriller thing was my goal; I must have backspaced by mistake. I think yours was the page I was trying to keep AWB from capitalizing the "r" in "roman a clef" in.  Cheers. --Djrobgordon 08:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

re: Musical Theatre Guild
I am the author of the original article "Musical Theatre Guild." The article was originally written to outline how the theater company started and the fall of its original founders. I was privvy to all of the happenings as a member of the board of directors. So all the information included within the article was first hand knowledge and I also have papers and correspondences to corroborate all the facts.

Recently I noticed that a current member of that theater company came along and changed the whole intent of the article and removed all mentions of how the founders were removed. He also added advertisements for their current season. If there was a problem with where the article went in relation to the title, the title should have been changed, not the content of the article itself.

So, instead of battling it out with them, I decided to let them have their one-sided, pro-only version of the story, and reinstated my original article with a new title The Musical Theatre Guild—The Founders Story. The history of what happened to this theater company is intersting to theater professionals and I have been contacted by many thanking me for letting the true story be known. Isn't that what a "pedia" of any kind is for? To give a truthful account of events?

I wrote the article as unbiased as I possibly could giving both positive accounts of the theater company as well as the sad, but truthful facts of the demise of its founders.

If you'd prefer, I can take items out of the new article that are duplicated from the original, but since I wrote both, I'd rather the original article were deleted. The Musical Theatre Guild can write their own article if they want one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mtguild (talk • contribs) 06:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

Follow-up re baseball player articles
Thanks for the prompt response to the message I posted. It's very helpful. I'll take a look at some of the players you've worked on to get an idea of your approach. A couple more questions: Do you put the year the player came to his current team anywhere in the infobox? Do you have a general rule of thumb as to when a player warrants his own article? For players on the 40-man roster who have limited or no ML experience, do you include minor league stats in their infoboxes? Sanfranman59 19:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Bartman Ball
I have completed merging out and redirecting the Bartman Ball article.TheGreenFaerae 07:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No problemo.TheGreenFaerae 08:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

C. H. Collins Athletic Complex
Instead of threatening to delete this article I need help bringing it to Wikipedia standards and expanding the article. The stadium is an important part of all three of Denton ISD's high school and student life. With little information on the internet about the stadium except from the architect's website. Thanks. NThomas76207 01:10, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the very quick responce and helpful hints. NThomas76207 04:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You're welcome.--Djrobgordon 04:28, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Please do not remove AFD tags.
Please do not remove AFD tags unless their corresponding AFD's are closed. Otherwise, the troll nominating the page could use sockpuppets or meatpuppets to win the AFD and get rid of the target article. Jesse Viviano 05:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Got it. I had that thought soon after I did it.  Sorry about that.--Djrobgordon 05:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

AfD Closing
Thanks for pointign that out, completely missed that. It's taken care of now.-- Wizardman 05:27, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Bill James edit
Hey, I noticed that you removed a mention to Covering the Bases: Making Sense of Bill James' Statistical Nonsense in the Bill James article because of non-notability. I agree that the main article for the book should be removed for non-notability, but I think that it contributes to the Bill James article - I think it's a good counterpoint to a couple of fawning books about the author. Could we include the book while noting that it's self-published and received little attention? Rmj12345 15:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

On The Edge
I can delete my own comments from anywhere I feel like. You decided to reinsert one. Perhaps you didn't realize it was me myself who removed it or perhaps you didn't read what it said. It's preserved in the history if anyone really wants to go back and see it. I'll Assume good faith here but don't do it again please. It would just be starting shit for no reason, plain and simple. Take care. - Arch NME 07:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I removed it cus I realized I was the one taking it to personally. That very comment glaringly showed as much which is probably why you choose to keep it. Perhaps I'm making to many assumptions here. It was a premptive strike on the conversation getting out of control and I probably should have left it on your user page in the first place as it didn't have any direct baring on the argument at hand. If you want to move it here to your user page go ahead but... Anyway, I came up with a better response to your comment and replaced it. No bad blood here mate. - Arch NME 07:57, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

re: The Musical Theatre Guild—The Founders Story
I see you all have deleted this article. It also says that no one was able to verify information online regarding the ousting of the founders. If you go to the Los Angeles Times website and do a search of the archives under "Eric Andrist" one of the founders in question, you will find a piece on this. As I mentioned, I am privvy to lots of documentation that does not appear on the internet, which is why an article here is so important...so that people can read up on this company.

Some people mentioned that it's not an important theater company outside of Los Angeles, but is that a criteria for an article here? There are tons of articles that don't affect people worldwide, nationwide or even citywide. However, the theatrical community as a whole, across the US can and would be interested in this article. It tells of the formation of a not-for-profit theater company and how it can be taken over hostily. Like theater companies could learn from this article as well as people thinking of starting a theater company of their own.

re: Youngstown Ohio Works
Thanks for requesting a peer review for this article. I didn't mean to trample on your earlier style edits, many of which I referred to when cleaning up the prose. I happened to come across information that needed to be included, e.g., Castleton's presence on the team. Also, some readers said they were confused about the reasons behind the club's dissolution. I streamlined this section to highlight the motives of the owner, but may have removed information that helps to explain the manager's anger over the situation, e.g., his earlier verbal agreement with the YOW owner. Any changes you could make to upgrade this article would certainly be welcome. --haeksang 07:31, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

FYI: All conjecture has been removed from this article, in line with Wikipedia policy. Thanks.haeksang 03:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me. Again, feel free to make any changes to upgrade this article. -- haeksang 23:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Updating stats in baseball player articles
Hi Dj ... Do you know if the WP baseball community has reached any consensus on regularly updating statistics in baseball players' articles? Would you mind taking a look at a note I left on another user's talk page here about this issue? Since I'm still a newbie around here, I'd appreciate any input you might have. Thanks. --Sanfranman59 23:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Portal peer review
Hello, Djrobgordon! Since it has been a month since you nominated the Baseball Portal for peer review, I hope you received good feedback on how the portal could be improved. If you would like, you could keep the portal listed at the portal peer review for more suggestions for improvement and ask the Wikipedians here for feedback. Also, if you think the portal is ready, you could nominate the portal for featured status. Either way, I hope you've received helpful reviews! Cheers, [ sd ] 15:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

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GAC backlog elimination drive
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Article up for AfD
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Hughie Jennings
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Talk:Stochastic programming

Description
I do not agree with this description of stochastic programming. What is decribed here is rather "randomized methods", or simulation-type methods with stochastic elements. Stochastic programming is an area in optimization, or ,more specifically, in mathematical programming.

In fact Monte-Carlo, Simulated Annealing, Genetic Algorithm, ... are _stochastic_algorithms_ but not always used for "stochastic programming". A mathematical program is a model which leads to a solution by the use of an algorithm. So speaking, "stochastic programming" is a stochastic model which is used to feed an algorithm.

Let's define :

"Stochastic Algorithms"

"Stochastic Programming"

Lannez 11:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Title?
Maybe this page (which is currently just a stub) should instead be titled Stochastic dynamic programming, and should refer to dynamic programming methods applied to problems that also involve random shocks? --Rinconsoleao (talk) 10:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

 * I'm fine with a page move/change of name. My experience with SDP models in biology doesn't square with much of the lede (for example "Whereas deterministic optimization problems are formulated with known parameters, real world problems almost invariably include some unknown parameters" implies to me that the optimizing agent does not know the probability with which the stochastic events happen), and "random shocks" isn't a term that gets applied where I come from.  I'm happy to leave the bulk of this article to the Econ crowd to reflect the topic from that tradition. Pete.Hurd (talk) 20:19, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Textbooks
I added some standard textbooks on "stochastic programming". It would be useful for others to help by using the "cite book" template and adding links to Mathematical Reviews. Prekopa's name needs an accent, etc.

Please consider whether all of the earlier references are needed. It is not clear to me that unpublished working papers meet the criteria for inclusion, when this field is so established.

Thank you for your consideration. Best regards, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 04:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Markov Decision Process
These are the same thing has Markov Decision Processes. Or Semi-Markov Decision Processes if you use Continuous Time Stochastic Programming instead of discrete states. 129.10.244.231 (talk) 17:02, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Economic applications
I think that one important application to be mentioned is the optimal stopping problem and the associated Nested Fixed Point Algorithm as developed by Rust (1987; Econometrica). An important reference on economic applications is Adda and Cooper's book from 2003 (ISBN-13: 978-0262012010). Superpronker (talk) 19:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Scope of the article
Currently, this article focuses very heavily on stochastic linear programming (plus a very detailed and technical section on statistical inference). It does not any of the following, which may or may not be relevant on this page: Some of these already have articles. Which topics should this article (not) address?
 * Stochastic mixed-integer programming
 * Chance-constrained programming
 * Stochastic dynamic programming (e.g. MDPs)
 * Robust optimization

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 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was move. ugen 64 21:08, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Australian boots
I have a bad feeling that that this article is bordering on advertising for a boot manufacturer, although it seems disguised as an encyclopedic article. I am not at all an expert on fashion, but the articles makes no statement as to who is recognizing Australian boots as a unique style, I seem to remember something called "peacock term" or "weasel term". Sjakkalle 07:31, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Ugg boots. -- Hoary 08:06, 2005 Apr 13 (UTC)
 * They are not the same thing as Ugg boots, they have been made since the 1860s and are uniquely Australian, the article should be moved to Australian work boots and kept. The odd claim about fashion should be removed unless someone has a source. --nixie 11:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, and rename to Australian work boots as per nixie. Definitely not the same as ugg boots. --bainer 13:37, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Nixie is right, they are not Ugg boots (eew) nor are they known as Australian boots, but rather work/worker boots. In context, the article title should be Australian work boots. I vote KEEP so long as the name change occurs, and the article is significantly improved/expanded. As it is, the article does not warrant inclusion.--Cyberjunkie 13:40, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Clearly nothing like Ugg boots—read the description. Rename/keep. Rossi call them Work Boots - ELASTIC SIDE; Blundstone seem to just call them Originals; R. M. Williams just call them elastic-sided boots. I had no idea they were uniquely Australian until this came up. --ScottDavis 15:03, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. If we can have an article on aglets or Flip-flops, I don't see a problem with this. My prefered title might be elastic sided boots, which seems to be the industry term. Oh, and here's a link about fashionability in Canada . Securiger 17:29, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as per nixie. --InShaneee 19:10, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as per nixie or at Elastic sided boots . Alphax τεχ 06:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Move to Australian work boots. Megan1967 07:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Move to Australian work boots. I don't think there's an Aussie alive who doesn't know RM's. (Yes that's what we call them). --Chammy Koala 16:00, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep, happy to have renamed as per suggestions above (prefer elastic-sided boots) but not to redirect as Ugg boots. I also had no idea that they were Australian until reading this article. --AYArktos 08:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename as Australian work boots. They are distinctive and notable enough to have their own entry. One colloquial name used for them is blunnies (derived from the dominant brand Blundstone) --Takver 07:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename as AWB (or blunnies ;) Felix the Cassowary 06:31, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename as AWB or blundstones (effectively used as a generic (ala Hoover) in Australia).Fifelfoo 02:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Nahar Singh Mahal

Nahar Singh Mahal is located at Ballabhgarh in Faridabad district of Haryana. This fort was built by the forefathers of Raja Nahar Singh around 1739 AD, and after whom Ballabgarh was named, the construction however continued in parts till about 1850. The fort is also known as Raja Nahar Singh Palace.

Architecture
The elaborate cupolas and minarets of this double-storeyed sandstone structure are fashioned around a vast central courtyard. The palace has six tastefully decorated guest rooms, replete with royal ambiance. The fort was decorated with minars on its four corners of which only two can be seen now due to age and neglect. The palace holds a Darbar-e-aam (Hall of Public Audience) and a Rang Mahal decorated with a beautiful Chhatri.

Restoration
Government of Haryana entrusted its restoration to the well-known specialists Francis Wacziarg and Aman Nath. Aman Nath, a founding member of INTACH, and his French business partner Francis Wacziarg, are conservationists and the founders of Neemrana Hotels.

Heritage hotel
This palace is now a heritage property managed by Haryana Tourism. It has been renovated and converted into a motel-cum-restaurant. The palace has been renewed into an outstanding specimen of architectural design with help of team of experts.

Kartik Cultural Festival
Kartik Cultural Festival, the main annual fair held in the month of November since 1996, is celebrated at Nahar Singh Mahal. It is held by the Haryana Tourism, during the bright and auspicious autumn month of Kartik as per Vikram Samvat calendar.

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Personality
I have just seen the documentary The Sweetest Sounds. This article needs to reflect the information about Rodger's personality, his alcholholism and how these things affected/improved his artistic ability. Rodger's children actually talk about being "afraid" of him and also refer to the fact that over the course of his life he consulted with 5 psychiatirsts. Any ideas on how this can be integrated intoa Wiki article without appearing too tabloidish? I will try to draft something up and source quotes from the documentary.

I think there needs to be a section on his alleged mercurial personality. Apparently he was not a very pleasant man (Sondheim did, after all, call him a man of "limited soul") This is not to mean that this article should be gossipy or bitchy- but I do think it adds much to understanding his art (especially since- parradoxically- so much of Rodger's music is emphatically joyful- how did this eminate from a limited or unhappy soul? Disucss!!!)

Talk about the reason(s) why he became a composer!

 * Rodgers in his autobiography recounts how he once had to be hospitalized for depression but suggests that this was an isolated incident and that he was never bothered by the afflication before or afterward. His daughter Mary in her introduction to a later edition contradicts him, maintaining that he suffered from depression all his life. I've never heard about the alleged alcoholism before, but then I haven't seen the documentary. Rodgers's songwriting partner Lorenz Hart was an alcoholic, of course, and Rodgers writes about this at some length. TheScotch (talk) 09:53, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Wider Influences
"In 1960, the waltz "My Favorite Things" from The Sound of Music was adopted and transformed into a seminal jazz performance by the saxophonist John Coltrane (Coltrane would frequently play the tune until his death)."

That is real dedication. If Coltrane died frequently, how were his audiences affected? Were they killed too, or merely made ill? --- Instead, how about: "The tune subsequently became a regular part of his répertoire." Bog 01:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Bobby Lee Rodgers
I have removed this parragraph: "Bobby Lee Rodgers of The Codetalkers, who is a prolific songwriter and master musician and accomplished singer with well over 100 songs in his repertoire, is reported to be Richard Rodgers' direct descendent (Bobby Lee's great aunt claimed direct descent from Richard but this is currently being verified.) http://thecodetalkers.com"

Reasons for removal: Firstly its a puff piece for Bobby Lee Rodgers(whodat?!) and secondly, as the writer himself/herself admits, it is UNVERIFIED!

Original Research?
The following smells like original research to me:

''*My Funny Valentine appeared in the film The Talented Mr Ripley and Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered appeared in The History Boys. Both songs were used in dramatically similar scenes where one male character expressed his unrequited love for the other (straight) man by singing to him.''

 * 1. Songs do not "appear" in films.
 * 2. "Both songs were used" is a passive-voice construction; is there a reason for not using the active voice?
 * 3. "Both songs were used in dramatically similar scenes" smells to me like personal insight and, therefore, like original research.
 * 4. "dramatically similar scenes where one male character expressed his unrequited love for the other (straight) man by singing to him" reeks to the highest heaven of original research with an agenda behind it. (I'm ignoring the fact that the sentence should be written in the present tense.)
 * 5. Does this mean that in The Talented Mr. Ripley Matt Damon sings "My Funny Valentine" to Jude Law? I've seen the movie, but I truly do not remember that scene.

If there are no objections, I intend to remove this item from the Richard Rodgers article on Valentine's Day. ForDorothy 21:48, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Dorothy,

Thanks for the useful (but confrontationaly-worded and rather hostile) feedback. I posted the entry and I am more than happy to change or remove so that it complies to Wiki standards.

By way of explanation, here is what I was trying to say: The section under which this appears is "wider influence" and I was wanted to illustrate that some of the songs that Rodgers and Hart wrote (not Rodgers and Hammerstein) have been used/ have appeared/ were heard/ been performed in two movies with themes of unrequited gay love. That must count as some form of a wider influence of his work?But yes, I take your point: It is ultimately my opinion. And it might be a refelction of Hart's lyrics more than Rodger's music....

re: the passvie voice. Yes, some of my verbs are passive in this sentence... so what? are you suggesting an appropriate, alternative active verb here? I could have said "Matt Damon sang My Funny Valentine in the Taleted Mr Ripley (and, yes, he did- in one of the best scenes in the movie) but that would emphasise Damon's performance rather than the song. I think you are being pedantic by highlighting the use of the passive voice: the form exists because sometimes it aids and clarifies meaning. I cannot think of a more accurate way to talk about them than to say "were performed"...

dramatically similar scenes where one male character expressed his unrequited love for the other (straight) man by singing to him" reeks to the highest heaven of original research with an agenda behind it. (I'm ignoring the fact that the sentence should be written in the present tense.)" .... you're ignoring that? looks to me like you're highlighting it.
 * Re: "I was wanted to illustrate that some of the songs that Rodgers and Hart wrote (not Rodgers and Hammerstein) have been used...in two movies with themes of unrequited gay love. That must count as some form of a wider influence of his work?But yes, I take your point: It is ultimately my opinion. And it might be a refelction of Hart's lyrics more than Rodger's music...."

 * It might more likely be a reflection of the movies, which makes it pretty tangential to this article. TheScotch (talk) 09:59, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Unsupported Facts
The article references two Pulitzer Prizes. R&H only won one for SOUTH PACIFIC (see List of Pulitzer Prize winning dramas).

The article references "numerous" schools named after Rodgers yet the link only shows two. 162.83.13.140 13:02, 9 May 2007 (UTC)Jeff in Delaware

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Claim about Rodgers being influenced by Arthus Sullivan
Although I saw that this page mentioned Arthur Sullivan's name as an influence on Rodgers' music, I doubt that Rodgers could have been influenced by the Gilbert & Sullivan operettas. It strikes me as an unverified comment. Yes I know from reading the Secrest biography that the reviews of his shows with Hart compared the songwriting team to G&S, but Rodgers shrugged off such influences. Rodgers claimed a good deal of influence from Kern and the turn-of-the-century operettas that his parents were seeing. Yip1982. 13:55, 29 July 2007.

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Death
The article states he died after surviving cancer of the jaw, a heart attack, and an operation to remove his larynx; it fails to state what he did die of. F W Nietzsche (talk) 04:37, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Symphony "Victory at Sea"
According to the Guinness Book of Records, the longest known symphony is "Victory at Sea" by Richard Rodgers, lasting 13 hours. Does anyone know anything more about it? As I see it, it's music for a 26-part documentary, hardly a symphony in its own right... -- megA (talk) 01:09, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

The Marcells Blue Moon anecdote
Having died in 1960, Hammerstein could not have discussed the 1961 arrangement of Blue Moon by the Marcells. This story appears around the Internet, but if true, someone else must have dissuaded him from suing. Starsledder (talk) 04:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC) starsledder

My encounter with Richard Rodgers
In 1973 my family owned a restaurant in Sydney, Australia. I was introduced to a customer who said he heard I was with an opera company (Sydney Opera), and asked whether I liked musicals. I responded "Yes" and asked him to name some. When he mentioned Carousel, Oklahoma, the King and I, etc. I whistled some of the tunes. He asked if I knew 'South Pacific". I answered "Ezio Pinza" and as a bass baritone I imitated Pinza. The customer was impressed that a teenager knew South Pacific. I mentioned that I was about to buy a trumpet.

The next day I arrived at work to find a trumpet, a gift from Mr Rodgers who was returning to the US after filming South Pacific in Samoa.

As a teenager I did not know who he was until a month later when I saw his face on an LP record in a local music store.

Good memories of him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.129.96.61 (talk) 01:58, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

My encounter with Rodgers is less momentous than yours (above), but my Uncle Frank was Rodgers' personal chauffeur for many years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.93.157 (talk) 14:13, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Great American Songbook article
There is a discussion at Talk:Great American Songbook as to how to deal with the uncited lists of songwriters, songs, and singers in that article. Please join the discussion if it interests you. Softlavender (talk) 03:22, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Pulitzer Prize
The "Awards and Nominations" section doesnt include his two Pulitzers, i think this merit be mention since hes one of the only few to have won that award and an EGOT --BJI904000 (talk) 01:13, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Added to table. pgbrown (talk) 15:17, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Decline After Hammerstein
The section “After Hammerstein” is a fairly brief description of Rodger’s solo career. I plan on adding more information, building off what’s already there. His career slowed down as he continued to release new musicals, which will be highlighted by adding statistics of each show’s run time and reviews. Adding dates, specifically of each musical released, will give a more definitive timeline of his later career and show the downward decline of critical acclaim of his musicals. Overall, I plan to add a short paragraph’s worth of how he was not able to create a successful, long term partnership again, as well as the public’s response to his latest musicals. I am open to feedback from other editors, please let me know if there is anything I can approve upon.

This information comes from the book Richard Rodgers by Geoffrey Block, specifically the chapter titled "After Hammerstein." Geoffrey Block is an accredited academic in music history, earning a PhD from Harvard and having published eight scholarly books.

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Talk:Andrew Cockburn

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Viajero, why did you kill the publications section? All authors have a publication/bibliography section. user:TitaniumDreads apr 13 03:46 2005
 * also he's written several books. If anything it would make more sense to kill the first mention of "out of the ashes" since it isn't in citation form.

Irish?
Born in Britain to British parents, but spent some of his childhood in Ireland. How does that make him Irish? 86.7.211.128 (talk) 00:17, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Not the first Brit to notice that being Irish is trendier. Aussiesta (talk) 06:45, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * More seriously, I drifted here after reading the latest article he wrote for LRB, which includes some amazing assertions including that the US covertly supported the Khmer Rouge. Is there a category for deranged reviewers in Wikipedia? Should we include such things? Perhaps Mr Cockburn can show himself, under a false name, and correct the record for all time, because the Wikipedia entry for the KR includes no mention of such allegations. Aussiesta (talk) 06:50, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

O'Wikipedia can't bring itself to accept British for a nationality. Never trust wiki for a decent overview of someones heritage because it is always gonna have Irish just chucked in there somewhere despite the person in question being about as Irish as a Shaka Zulu. Nothing trendy about coming from some back water that got butt f**ked by the English for 800 years. Sorry, couldn't help myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.147.108.222 (talk) 00:05, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

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Ventria Bioscience

Ventria Bioscience is a biotech company with a focus on human nutrition and human therapeutics. The company was established in 1993 in Colorado. The company's core technology is a genetically modified crop-based protein production system (also called a "pharming" system or 'biopharming' ) called ExpressTec. They have also made applications to grow rice with human genes.

ExpressTec uses self-pollinating crops such as rice and barley to minimize the risk of gene flow normally associated with transgenic plants. Plant-produced proteins also offer advantages for cell culture and bioprocessing use because they replace animal derived components, which have become unpopular due to concerns about prion contamination.

Facilities
Ventria's corporate headquarters is in Denver, Colorado, with additional facilities in Kansas. On September 29, 2006, Kansas officials announced an agreement to bring Ventria’s new bioprocessing facility to Junction City, Kansas. Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius was supportive of the agreement and was quoted as stating "I welcome Ventria Bioscience to Kansas and look forward to their contributions to the health of children worldwide." The effort to attract Ventria to Kansas involved a number of players, including Governor Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Agriculture Adrian Polansky, The Kansas Department of Commerce, Junction City and Geary County, Kansas Technology Enterprise Corporation (KTEC), KansasBIO, Kansas State University, and Kansas Farm Bureau.

Divisions and Subsidiaries
Ventria created a new division of its company, called InVitria, in 2009. The division specialised in developing and commercialising animal-free cell culture supplements and reagents for use in the bio and life sciences industries. Applications for the products include cellular therapy, vaccines, medical devices, and regenerative medicine among others.

Markets and products
Human health, cell culture and biomanufacturing, and zoonotic disease are the three targeted markets for Ventria's products.

As of 2012 Ventria is developing six therapeutic products:
 * Human Health
 * VEN100 Recombinant human lactoferrin for antibiotic-associated diarrhea
 * VEN101 for Chemotherapy-Induced Diarrhea
 * VEN120 for Inflammatory Bowel Disease
 * VEN130 for Osteoporosis
 * VEN140 for Hepatic disease
 * VEN200 Optibumin Recombinant human albumin as a replacement for therapeutic human serum albumin

The company offers contract biomanufacturing services using its ExpressTec platform, and, through its subsidiary InVitria, sells a line of its proteins that it manufactures for the life sciences research market.

The company has conducted research in the field of zoonotic disease, specifically in lyme disease and rabies, with a goal of developing vaccines and offers some its recombinant proteins to life sciences researchers under a program called BioShare.

Funding
The company has been the recipient of grants and funding from organisations including the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, to develop their ExpressTec system.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flemish Interest

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep. ugen 64 21:16, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Flemish Interest
This article is not encyclopedic. It is too long and does not contain a logical build up of neutral factual information. I suggest deletion or a total rewrite of this article

This article is not encyclopedic at all. It does not contain neutral unbiased information presented in a logical and concise build up. (history of the political party, founders, members, party programme, participation in elections,...) The article is clearly being dominated by one or a few contributors, containing dubious research and discussions of non-events. Furthermore, the article in its present form is too long to be of an encyclopedic nature. I suggest deletion or a total rewrite of this article. --Ratatouille 07:49, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. There's enough factual info in there to at least reduce it to a viable stub. I prefer you'd take it to the discussion page rather than VFD. BTW can you explain this deletion? I would've thought at least the cats and interwiki links were keepable in a content dispute. Mgm|(talk) 10:17, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)`

I feel this article should be completely overhauled and rewritten from scratch. That is why I put it up for deletion as in its present form I think it is too long and certainly not encyclopedic like. (e.g. why all the ramblings on nazism, while this party is barely one year old?) --Ratatouille 10:50, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Because it's a party that split from the Flemish Block. Mgm|(talk) 10:56, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

 * Actually, no. It is the same as the Flemish Block, only the block was recently deemed an illegal organization, so they cleaned up their act to some extent and started under a new name. I believe this sufficient grounds for merging both, since they basically are the same people with the same aims and goals. Radiant_* 12:30, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * I didn't say they were the same. I meant it was formed as a result from the Flemish Block (see the Dutch entry). Besides, if they're different, I don't see a reason to merge them. Mgm|(talk) 21:44, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep, cleanup and expand. Megan1967 10:29, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, the subject is clearly encyclopedic, even if the article in it's current state is not neutral. clean it up and make it unbiased, don't delete! -- Joolz 14:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep, VfD is not the place to resolve NPOV disputes. Martg76 15:38, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep, The recent major rewrite by Joolz was successful. BTW, the article in its current state is certainly neutral.--Jvb – April 15, 2005
 * Keep, this article is informative. Goferwiki 15:23, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Anshan-class destroyer

The Anshan-class destroyers were the People's Liberation Army Navy's (PLAN) first destroyers. They were ex-Soviet Gnevny-class destroyers purchased in the 1950s. The Chinese later added HY-2 anti-ship missiles and removed some of the torpedo tubes, and redesignated as Type 6607. All four ships of the class had been stricken by 1992.

Design
The class has a length of 112.8 m with length between perpendiculars of 109 m, a beam of 10.2 m, with a draught of 4 m, and their displacement were 1,660 LT standard and 2,040 LT at full load. The ships was powered by two sets of Tosi geared steam turbines with three drum boilers, with total power output of 48,000 shp distributed in two shafts. Anshan class has a maximum speed of 32 kn, with range of 2,670 NM while cruising at 19 kn or 850 NM at 32 kn. The ships has a complement of 205 personnel, including 15 officers.

The class were initially armed with four 130 mm/50 caliber B13 Pattern 1936 guns in four turrets, two 76.2 mm/55 34-K guns in two turrets, four 37 mm/63 70-K guns in single-mounts, one Oerlikon 20 mm/70 autocannon, and two triple-tube 533 mm torpedo tubes. In 1971-1974, all ships were modernized by replacing the two torpedo tubes with two twin HY-2 surface-to-surface missile launchers, the four Soviet single-mount 37 mm/63 70-K guns were replaced with four Chinese twin-mount 37 mm/63 Type 61 guns, and removal of the 76 mm guns and 20 mm autocannon. The ships also equipped with two projectors and two racks for depth charges and can carry up to 60 naval mines.

The ships electronics and sensors consisted of Mina fire-control system, Gius-2 (NATO code: "Cross Bird") air-search radar, "High Sieve" air/surface-search radar, "Square Tie" surface-search radar, "Ball End" and "Fin Curve" navigational radar, and Pegas-2M active sonar.

History
After 1949 the PLAN negotiated with Britain through Hong Kong to buy some second-hand ships and boats but unable to do so due to the Korean War. As a result, the PLAN turned to the Soviet Union to buy four worn-out destroyers. The purchase was made on 4 June 1953, with prices equivalent to 17 tons of gold each at the time.

The Anshan-class ships were withdrawn from active service by the 1990s, but retained three ships as training ship (Taiyuan) and museum ships (Anshan and Changchun). The PLAN retains ownership of the ships through PLAN funded institutions.

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Talk:Zhengding County

Official site
The official travel page of the Shijiazhuang government says that Zhengding is famous for its "three disappeared mountains, nine bridges with no water, nine floors, four towers, eight great temples and twenty-four golden steles" - Can anybody corroborate this saying and identify the sights by any chance? rm 07:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Alt name
It might be true that Zhengding was
 * originally Zhending

but there's no source, no mention in the history section, and no Chinese form in the infobox. I'll leave that here til someone adds some more details about that. — Llywelyn II   11:10, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

 * I've restored Zhending along with a source. -Zanhe (talk) 23:22, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

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User talk:Krishna Paudel

I will like to contribute articles on current political developments in Nepal and in the world shortly.

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Talk:Battle of Allatoona

Wikifying
Took my stab at wikifying this page. Did some fact checking and most of it seems accurate enough. Linked like crazy, and adjusted where the quotes come in. Also added the link at the bottom to wikiquote. I'll leave it for a few days and then remove the header if no one sees a problem with it. bdgrell 07:56, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

Under strength units?
I realize that almost all, if not all, units were enormously under strength by this time, but I count five Union units ("regiments"). The total is given as a few thousand, or about 400+ per unit. Does this sound about right for this period? Student7 (talk) 18:12, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

 * Yes, although a regiment usually started the war with 1000 men, disease and battle casualties reduced them in size significantly. Unlike the practice in later American wars, losses were usually not replaced in existing units. New regiments were formed with new recruits. Hal Jespersen (talk) 18:53, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

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Shroomvalley
Delete. Not really encyclopaedic - more link spam / vanity? Geldart 07:57, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. "Not really encyclopedic" is an understatement. Sjakkalle 08:01, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a web directory. Dave the Red (talk) 19:41, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)\
 * delete as per DTR BigFatDave 22:58, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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