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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Mertz

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 06:52, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

David Mertz
This page was up for deletion once before but I decided to list it again. The article seem to be a total vanity article. When discussing whether or not to delete the article before, the subject of the article, who is User:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters was asked to refrain from editing the article. He has been unable to do so and has made almost weekly edits to it changing wordings, listing himself as in categories (such as philosopher) which he may or may not actually be qualified as. He did seem to appear in a few Google searches, but that's not very hard to do. I myself have published books, have taught classes, and have many of the same qualifications as this man seems to have, but I don't feel the need to glorify myself or make a completely vanity-like article. The fact that this user himself is the one who's done most of the workl on the article, and has made the majority of the edits, especially after being asked not to do so, is troubling to me and puts the reputation of wikipedia at stake. {See Articles for deletion/David Mertz/Archive for the previous deletion vote) --ScottyBoy900Q 15:35, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I would urge editors to read Criteria for inclusion of biographies, which reads in part: Published authors, editors, and photographers who have written books with an audience of 5,000 or more or in periodicals with a circulation of 5,000 or more. (Note also that ScottyBoy900Q has recently nominated himself for administratorship: Requests for adminship/ScottyBoy900Q).

 * My book on Addison-Wesley has sold about 3500 printed copies to-date (but has just gone to second printing in the last week), but has been downloaded approximately 70,000 times in its electronic version. The website gnosis.cx is essentially exclusively for archival publications of my articles first published in other places.  It has received visits from approximately 750k distinct IP addresses (which only loosely correlates with eyeballs, of course).  However, the original publishers, chiefly IBM developerWorks, O'Reilly ONLamp, and Intel's (now terribly unorganized) developer site, certainly receive more readers on first publication (of my articles specifically) than does my archival site.  So in other words, my readership is approximately two orders of magnitude beyond the (admittedly minimal) recomendation WP provides for notability.

 * I took a look at Google Scholar for my name. It's a cool tool; I haven't really used it before.  There seems to be a "DB Mertz" who is an ethologist, and is not me.  But looking through the 67 basic hits, I see that 38 of them are really about me.  Fewer than half of those concern any work for IBM.  It appears that I have a number of citations and acknowledgement related to my philosophy work that I had not been aware of.  Cool! See:

 * Also of interest—at least to me—is Google Print. See: .  Interestingly, all of the 11 books that contain my name in their text are genuinely references to me.  It's delightful to me (for vanity reasons) that books as diverse as Women's Health Solutions, Understandings of Russian Foreign Policy, Philosophy of Science and Its Discontents, Python Cookbook: 2nd Edition, Fear, Truth, Writing: From Paper Village to Electronic Community, and Sexual Investigations all mention me.  Mostly just by way of brief acknowledgments or citations of a single paper; I'm certainly not claiming that any of those are significantly about me.

 * The basic "Google test" shows about 85k hits on my name, about 95% are to me rather than someone else sharing my name. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 05:14, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Weak Keep Google Scholar turns up some half-dozen hits (admittedly in IBM publications) so I don't feel it's total vanity although it is somewhat self-promotional. I too am disturbed by the edit pattern, but it did fairly clearly survive the previous Afd and the request there by Smoddy (Rabbit and pork)that Lulu not edit the page further can hardly be taken as binding.    Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk   16:26, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * It's popssible though people voted to keep under the assumption that request for him to not edit would be followed. --ScottyBoy900Q 16:47, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't think so - all the votes were cast before that last-minute request went in. Just to be be clear though Slac did enourage no edits and finally Smoddy requested no edits! Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk  17:21, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete If Mertz was not a wikipedia contributor this would be a slam-dunk delete, there's no reason to come to a different conclusion because he is a wikipedian, jguk 16:44, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete agree with jguk. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd 17:00, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete per nomination. — ceejayoz ★ 18:49, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete did nothing of note.  Grue   19:08, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Strong keep. This is just absurd (again).  Yeah I'm the guy the article is about, and I've done a number of small edits on it, but the substantial content was written by our fine admin SlimVirgin (and contributions by other top-notch editors).  But either way, "David Mertz" is both meaningfully discussed in a bunch of Wikipedia articles (on computer programming-ish topics), and read by hundreds of thousands of readers (a magnitude more than watch the minor porn actors with articles, or ever attended some high school with an article).  I mean, 85,700 google results on "David Mertz" isn't an accident (about 95% are the right david mertz).  Nor is the high Alexa rating on the site gnosis.cx where my articles get archived.  Contrary to my "sworn enemy" Jguk, my contributions to Wikipedia are completely non-notable in this article, and that's why they are not mentioned. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 17:08, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Just the fact that you're so dedicated to making sure the article stays seems to justify my claim that its for vanity. I have a degree in history...does that mean I should list myself amongst the most notable 20th century historians and create an article about myself...no!  You just don't seem significant enough to warrant having your own article.  The very idea that you edit it and keep editing it to me indicates its just for self promotion. If we made a page for every minor person who works in every occupation, we'd have so many rubbish articles.  Where do we draw the line? --ScottyBoy900Q 17:32, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I am too much biased to actually put forth my opinion on this matter, but I say, as an administrator, that this is by no means a speedy keep. I cannot see any way in which it is in bad faith.   [[Sam Korn ]] 17:41, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree, let the voting run its course. --ScottyBoy900Q 17:46, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep clearly meets the criteria for notability and verifiability. Fawcett5 20:22, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep: Although this may sound fan-boyish and David has pointed the AfD request out to me, but I do find David Mertz to be notable, especially in programmer circles (3 hits on Slashdot on his name is notable in my book). He is a widely read, widely cited, widely published author. Then there is the Open Voting Consortium; David is the CTO and was recently nominated for the Open Source for Elections panel of the State of California, together with Bruce Perens. Now, if Bruce Perens came over to make some edits on his bio page, should we boot that article as well? --MJ( ☎ 20:40, 9 October 2005 (UTC).

 * Keep. I don't think that articles on people should have to jump hrdles set higher than video-game characters, American villages, or pop singles; this article would in fact jump hurdles much higher than any of those, and (as Fawcett5 and others have commented) clearly meets the normal criteria for notability and verifiability. jguk says: "If Mertz was not a wikipedia contributor this would be a slam-dunk delete"; I don't actually understand the refernce (I think that it's to basketball, but that's the best I can do), though I understand its general meaning — and it's surely the other way round: if the subject weren't a Wikipedia contributor no-one would have thought to delete the article. --Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 21:26, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. He's published by a reputable publisher, among other things. -- M P er el ( talk 01:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, passes the Cyrus Farivar test. Kappa 02:01, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per Mel Ettis. Xoloz 02:54, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - do you see how many citations there are on that? go try to find an article of similar length with that number of references. SECProto 03:00, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete - change of vote from the last debate, for a few reasons - firstly, the points raised by nominator I by and large concur with, and secondly, I can affirm that I had a definite expectation (even if I did not phrase it as such) that Lulu would not edit the article. The fact that he has is, frankly, disappointing, and such practices are fairly clearly discouraged throughout Wikipedia.  Jimbo manages to refrain from it, despite being professedly disappointed with the state of his article.  In terms of notability, I last time was of the view that the balance of evidence brought to light favours it, but I'm less convinced given that there only seems to be work within an IBM context.  Slac  speak up!  03:35, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah well, votes is votes. But the guideline at Autobiography is just: If you do so, please only add verifiable information and be especially careful to respect the neutral point of view. Noting objections or corrections on the talk page may be appropriate. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 04:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

 * NULL Jeff says this person is not notable. margit mueller merkey 03:46, 10 October 2005 (UTC) (Not a sockpuppet of merkey, was my wife, and she can vote). Gadugi 16:37, 13 October 2005 (UTC) I talked to my wife and she says withdraw her vote since I told her how to vote, so it probably should not count. Gadugi 22:30, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * To nuance this vote: Jeff Merkey is in dispute over the contents of his biography with the editors of the article, of whom Lulu is one (and so am I). He escalated this to a [#67.177.35.25_vs.__Fvw.2C__Pgk.2C__Exabit.2C__Kebron.2C__Lulu_of_the_Lotus-Eaters.2C_Mjpieters.2C_and__Redwolf24 Request For Arbitration] (now rejected, link is to a past version) and this vote is most likely retaliation. --MJ( ☎ 09:13, 10 October 2005 (UTC).

 * Delete, even the 5k boundary is ridiculously low. --fvw *  13:18, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete.  paul klenk talk 16:08, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, per Google Scholar hits, sales and him being highly cited and referenced outside (and to a certain degree within) Wikipedia (also see reasoning of other keep voters). If his editing his own article is a problem you could try getting a binding decision on it, but published authors like him are quite notable enough for an entry. Disclosure: Lulu contacted me, but I don't remember any prior contact with him, so I think I'm still objective in the matter. - Mgm|(talk) 17:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Mel Etitis, MacGyverMagic, and established Google Scholar hits. Hall Monitor 18:02, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article seems neutral and verifable enough. Disk space is cheap. Bryce 20:18, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Vivian Darkbloom 21:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC) (account created Oct 10, all edits on that date were votes on AfD)
 * Keep per Mel Etitis and others. Neier 22:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as notable author; to my mind, meets WP:BIO, and any POV or vanity issue can be dealt with. MCB 00:41, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Particularly per SECProto. 172 | Talk 09:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep: the subject is clearly a sufficiently interesting character that not having an article on him might prove embarrassing later. On a purely personal basis, noting the style of opposition on the talk page, I'm not inclined to give in to non-verifiable slurs. If a certain user can justify their problem with the article (not with David/Lulu himself) with rather more substance and less whining I might be inclined to take it more seriously. —Phil | Talk 14:42, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Why are you draggin' me into this as a deletionist? If the article can be cleaned-up, devanitized, and uncensored, I'd probably want to keep it. Davey's only cliam to notability is as a political activist, and it's censorship to keep removing references to his unsavory sociopolitical comments about Jews and Israel. Tanya! Ravine 19:38, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * keep factual and verifiable. Trollderella 15:40, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * keep please this person is notable and we need to stop this systemic bias now Yuckfoo 15:51, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I agree that if he weren't a Wikipedia editor, this article would unquestionably be kept. Also, voting "delete because I don't like the edits he's made" makes very little sense. AfD isn't the place to dispute the content of an article. Go edit the article or its talk page. RSpeer 18:06, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * keep - sufficiently notable to justify inclusion--User:AYArktos |  Talk 21:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I have no reason to doubt that this AfD was brought in good faith. However, while I had personally never heard of David Mertz, there is sufficient evidence of notability, through google searches, and online bookshop searches, etc. His book "usually ships within 24 hours" at Amazon.com and Amazon.co.uk. (The more obscure titles have "usually ships within two months, but may not be available at all".) The book seems to be popular and to sell well. Obviously, it was against Wikipedia policy for Lulu to have started the article, but he explained in the first AfD that he was unaware of that policy at the time. If there are POV problems or factual errors, the article can be edited. Ann Heneghan (talk) 22:55, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete. David Mertz, how can you see you have only added "minor" edits to the page when not only did you start the page but continued adding until half the history is your edits? --Fir0002 07:42, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Fir0002, do you have a rationale to delete the article? If you object to the content that David added to the article, take it to the talk page or edit the article. RSpeer 19:35, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, I thought my question was pretty self explanatory, but to put it formally, I vote to delete because I belive it is a vanity article. --Fir0002 08:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * As is noted in the article talk page (and the prior failed VfD), I did not write the article. I copies it from a bio at another wiki that discusses various computer people.  Yeah, I performed the cut-and-paste, but not the composition.  In any case, take a look at the edits: I made pretty many, but they're stuff like typos and wikification, overwhelmingly... nothing that even comes close to NPOV issues. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 02:14, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Well I certainly don't think that it should have been you who copyed the text to make an article on yourself. --Fir0002 08:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * How is this comment even remotely relevant to the notability of the article subject? If an editor edited improperly, the proper mechanism is RfC. Of course, there is no prohition on autobiography editing if it meets NPOV; so the case is tenuous anyway.  But even if true, it's irrelevant to an AfD. 71.208.214.195 20:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Weak keep based on substantiated non-trivial (though not major) notability. Edit pattern isn't directly relevant to whether we should keep the article.  Merkey controversy isn't relevant to whether we should keep the article.  Tanya R's conflict over things the subject said or wrote outside his area of notability isn't relevant to whether we should keep the article.  Barno 19:51, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Whaddya mean, "outside his area of notability"? He doesn't meet the criteria as an above-average academic or as an author. (That 70000 number he claims doesn't count; no-name bands have given away 250000 free downloads of albums that they couldn't sell 250 of.) If Lulu's notable, it's for his politics, and it's wrong to see the article get consored in that area. Tanya! Ravine 20:23, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete for reasons I just said. There are more important committees in California then the one he's supposed to be appt'd to but their members don't get articles. Tanya! Ravine 20:23, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

 * It's interesting that Tany Ravine argues that all these utterly non-notable things about my alleged political beliefs (nothing I really believe, of course) ought to be in the article; but then argues the article should be deleted because those non-notable things might be included. (david mertz)

 * Keep based on the qualifying publishing information and minor notability. The difference between Wikipedia and other encyclopedias is that we are not constrained by space and thus can include minor notables if they meet some basic criteria.  This was on the fence of keep/weak keep for me, but ultimately I think it should stay. (el_amante)  19:09, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete. The subject and the article cannot be judged separately, and in this case, the article is clear self-promotion.  I believe that the only reason we do not have a specific policy against editors working on their own articles is the clear unenforceability of such a policy.  Chick Bowen 02:31, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * How does this even remotely make sense?! If you think David Mertz is a bad person, add the text "David Mertz is an asshole" to the article (if you think such can meet WP:NPOV and WP:V). If you think Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters is a bad editor, create an RfC or the like.  But how can either thing being even slightly relevant to the obvious notability of the article subject? 71.208.214.195 19:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. Minor notability established. El_C 03:27, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. More google hits for David Mertz than many articles/bios on wikipedia. IMO, Lulu editing the article is, however, not ideal.  Ban e  s  10:12, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete If not a wikipedian, this article would not even exist here. Fails 5K test. Gadugi 16:37, 13 October 2005 (UTC) Please don't call my wife a sockpuppet.  In addition to being incorrect, it's also disrespectful. Gadugi 22:28, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The comment made above, that this vote is a retaliation against Lulu over a disputed biography, still stands. --MJ( ☎ 12:09, 14 October 2005 (UTC).
 * I see that Jeff's "wife" withdrew his her vote above. So it looks perfectly proper now for Jeff to cast one delete vote; it's not for us to proclaim motives (as obvious as they are in this case). Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 16:26, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I SEE that this self-serving article is the result of WP:AB all over the place. It's the ultimate in hipocrosy to revert edits in other articles under claims of WP:AB when this popinjay article dressed in the plumage of a peacock is paraded around on WP.  This article is an eyesore on the internet and should be deleted. 67.137.28.187 19:48, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I ordered several of this authors books from Amazon and ohter sources, and they are so rife with credits to the work of others, I would suggest that only 10% of their content is by the author. The remaining 90% of their content appears to be blatant plagaurism from the work of others.  Note Notable.  Delete stands, and not on the basis of retaliation. 67.137.28.187 19:51, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Alas, I've only published on book that can be obtained from Amazon. So I guess Jeff bought several copies of the same title just to make sure they all contained the same "plagurism [sic]". :-) (david mertz)

 * Delete violation of WP:AB, vanity. First edit written by Lulu. More than half the edits are additional entries by Lulu and few of those to revert erroneous information.--MONGO 05:25, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Speedy Delete. Autobiography. I'm surprise that a person, with PhD training, think that it is okay to write an article of himself in wikipedia. It is clear violation of independence and nature of encyclopedia, and filled with conflict of interest. Keeping this article is an extreme risk to the credibility of wikipedia. So, the reviews we get will be "In wikipedia, some biography articles were written by the subjects themselves". Do you guys want this to happen? This is a speedy delete because the whole wikipedia project is at stake. Please read Why Wikipedia is not so great. --Vsion 06:44, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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La Malbaie

La Malbaie is a municipality in the Charlevoix-Est Regional County Municipality in the Province of Quebec, Canada, situated on the north shore of the St. Lawrence River at the mouth of the Malbaie River. It was formerly known as Murray Bay. La Malbaie is the seat of the judicial district of Charlevoix.

Although the main business district is located at the mouth of the Malbaie River, the town itself covers a vast area that extends inland along both sides of the Malbaie River and north and south along the St. Lawrence River. The village of Pointe-au-Pic amalgamated with La Malbaie in 1995, and the villages of Rivière-Malbaie, Sainte-Agnès, Cap-à-l'Aigle, and Saint-Fidèle were added in 1999. The neighbouring town of Clermont is located a short 7 km along the Malbaie River.

History
1605: French explorer Samuel de Champlain fails to find suitable anchorage on his arrival in the area in May and names the bay Malle Baye (old French for “bad bay”).

1688: Rudimentary settlement begins at La Malbaie to export lumber to France, but the focus quickly turns to the fur trade and beluga fishing.

1724: A farm established at La Malbaie begins providing meat and grain to the French king's trading posts along the St. Lawrence River.

1763: Two Scottish officers of the British Army—John Nairne (1731–1802) and Malcolm Fraser (1733–1815)—receive concessions in the area from the British Crown. Nairne's encompasses the tiny settlement of La Malbaie and the western side of the Malbaie River. Fraser's stretches to the east. They also rename the bay, settlement, and river “Murray Bay” after James Murray (1721–1794), a British general and the successor to Wolfe. Murray Bay never becomes the official name, but is the internationally accepted toponym in the 18th and 19th centuries even though La Malbaie remains in local use.

1774: The parish of Saint-Étienne-de-la-Malbaie is founded.

1825: The parish is canonically established.

1830: The steamship Waterloo pays a visit to La Malbaie “on a pleasure trip,” the first such recorded commercial visit.

Circa 1840: For the first time, well-to-do visitors begin to summer in La Malbaie.

1853: Construction of a quay on piles at Pointe-au-Pic makes it possible for steamers to begin providing regular service to leisure travellers.

1855: The Parish Municipality of Saint-Étienne-de-Murray-Bay is founded.

1876: The Murray Bay Golf Club opens, the third oldest course in North America and the oldest still operating at the same location.

1892: Future president of the United States William Howard Taft and his family begin summering in La Malbaie, where he will visit every year for nearly forty years except for his term of office as president.

1896: The village itself is separated from the parish municipality and incorporated as the Village Municipality of La Malbaie.

1899: The luxurious 250-room Manoir Richelieu opens its doors to serve the flood of summertime visitors.

1914: Newly retired U.S. president William Howard Taft becomes president of the Murray Bay Golf Club, a position he will hold for seven years.

1925: A second golf course opens, the competition-class Manoir Richelieu course.

1928: At the end of the tourist season, the Manoir Richelieu is completely destroyed by fire. It will be rebuilt before the next season begins in 1929.

1957: Saint-Étienne-de-Murray-Bay is renamed Saint-Étienne-de la-Malbaie.

1958: The Village Municipality of La Malbaie officially becomes a town.

1965: The Town of La Malbaie annexes the parish municipality.

1995: The Town of La Malbaie and the Village Municipality of Pointe-au-Pic merge to form the Town of La Malbaie–Pointe-au-Pic.

1999: The Municipalities of Rivière-Malbaie and Saint-Fidèle, the Village Municipality of Cap-à-l’Aigle, the Parish Municipality of Saint-Agnès, and the Town of La Malbaie–Pointe-au-Pic amalgamate to form the new Town of La Malbaie.

2018: La Malbaie's Manoir Richelieu plays host to the 44th G7 summit, hosted by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

La Malbaie has a long history as a holiday destination. Tourism in the area began to develop as far back as 1760 when the Scottish feudal lords John Nairne and Malcolm Fraser began receiving visitors to the region at their estates. The family of Charlotte Holt Gethings is thought to be among the very first to come to La Malbaie for summer holidays, beginning around 1840. Every summer, particularly from the late 1800s on, “Murray Bay” welcomed America's most fashionable families. They picnicked and played, went fishing and swimming, and entertained lavishly in their sprawling but modestly named “cottages” on The Boulevard (today's “Chemin des Falaises”). Many of their descendants still visit every summer to this day.

People called Murray Bay the “Newport of Canada.” US Tycoons mingled with mayors and governors and justices of the Supreme Court, there to escape the sweltering cities to the south. And conversation was “easy, intimate, and usually about golf” reported New Yorker magazine in 1924.

One regular visitor of note for nearly forty years was William Howard Taft, who served as president of the United States from 1909 to 1913. He once famously remarked that “The invigorating air of Murray Bay exhilarates like champagne without the effects of the morning after. ” The residents of Murray Bay were very demonstrative in their affection for Taft, referring to him as “le petit juge,” lifting their caps to him as he drove by, and performing burlesque sketches during the winter months in which he was played by the most rotund villager. They burned a candle at the time of his death, and spat upon hearing of his betrayal by Theodore Roosevelt. Members of the Taft family are still a part of the local summer scene.

The American heritage of La Malbaie is still present in the inns and country homes, in bed & breakfasts frozen in time, and in the imposing Fairmont Manoir Richelieu, which hosted the world's political elite at the 44th G7 Summit in June 2018.

Geography
La Malbaie is located in the Charlevoix Seismic Zone, which is the most active seismic zone in Eastern Canada. La Malbaie is notable for having an extremely high seismic risk, although a significant earthquake has not occurred in the region recently.

Demographics
In the 2021 Census of Population conducted by Statistics Canada, La Malbaie had a population of $8,235$ living in $3,826$ of its $4,563$ total private dwellings, a change of NaN% from its 2016 population of $8,271$. With a land area of 458.19 km2, it had a population density of in 2021.

 * Mother tongue:
 * English as first language: 0.4%
 * French as first language: 98.0%
 * English and French as first language: 0%
 * Other as first language: 1.6%

Local government

The following is a list of Mayors of La Malbaie.

 * Joseph Couturier, 1905–1906
 * Alphonse Guay, 1907–1914
 * Joseph-Arthur Lapointe, 1915–1916; 1921–1924
 * Joseph-Edouard Cauchon, 1917–1920
 * Rolland Warren, 1920
 * Joseph T. Tremblay, 1925–1930
 * Ernest Carré, 1930–1939
 * Ludovic Couturier, 1939–1941
 * Jean-Charles Rochette, 1941–1948
 * Alcide Harvey, 1948–1951
 * Henri-Paul Couturier, 1951
 * Boris Maltais, 1951–1958
 * Martial Asselin, 1958–1963
 * Louis-Philippe Dufour, 1964–1965
 * Paul X. Laberge, 1966–1970
 * Lucien Harvey, 1970–1986
 * Claudette B. Bergeron, 1986–1989
 * Jules Maltais, 1989–1995
 * Jean Lajoie, 1995
 * Louis Bergeron, 1995–2002
 * Jean-Luc Simard, 2002–2009
 * Lise Lapointe, 2009-2013
 * Michel Couturier, 2013–present

Attractions
La Malbaie's scenic beauty and closeness to nature have always been popular draws. A steamer menu from the earliest days of tourism included a note that “Many families from Quebec visit Malbaie in the summer for the benefit of salt water bathing, the water here being perfectly sea-salt. There is also excellent salmon fishing. . . Sea trout are likewise taken here of a considerable size and several small lakes at a few miles distance afford abundance of trout.”

Modern visitors still come for the scenery, but are more likely to swim in the pools of the Manoir Richelieu than in the salt-water river. And they not only fish, but also go hiking, cycling, and golfing in summer, and skiing, snowshoeing, and snowmobiling in winter. However, “the romance of the French Canadian culture is surely the greatest draw” remarked one regular summer resident from the U.S. when queried.

La Malbaie's most noted landmark is the Fairmont Le Manoir Richelieu, a hotel operated under the Fairmont Hotels and Resorts banner. It was first built in 1899, then rebuilt in 1929 after it was destroyed by fire. The building was acquired by Fairmont in 1998 and reopened under the current banner in 1999. It is particularly noted for its panoramic location on a cliff overlooking the St. Lawrence River. The hotel hosted the 44th G7 summit, June 8–9, 2018.

The Casino de Charlevoix is located next to the Manoir.

La Malbaie has two golf courses. The Manoir's is perched panoramically on the hilltop above the hotel, while the Murray Bay Golf Club is tucked into the bay near the centre of town.

Hautes-Gorges-de-la-Rivière-Malbaie National Park, about 40 km northwest of town, is popular with outdoor enthusiasts. It features hiking and cycling trails and a scenic boat tour on the Malbaie River.

Mont Grand-Fonds is a ski hill located about 15 km north of town. It features a vertical drop of 335 m and average annual snowfall of 500 cm. It also has 140 km of cross-country ski trails and 41 km of snowshoe trails.

Musée de Charlevoix is a museum of history and popular art located within walking distance of many local hotels and inns.

The Cap-à-l’Aigle sector of La Malbaie (across the bay from the main part of town) is a member of Quebec's association of most beautiful villages. With its many heritage residences and inns, it is a popular place to go for a stroll, particularly in June when its lilac trees are in full bloom. Cap-à-l’Aigle also has a marina.

Agrotourism is a big draw in La Malbaie and throughout Charlevoix, with many local producers welcoming visitors.

Observatoire de l’Astroblème de Charlevoix is an interpretation centre on the meteorite origins of Charlevoix's geography.

Although the whales don't often venture as far upriver as La Malbaie, the town is within easy driving distance of Tadoussac, where visitors can take a whale-watching tour and visit the Saguenay Fjord.

Notable people

 * Laure Conan (1845–1924), pen name of Marie-Louise-Félicité Angers, French-Canadian novelist
 * Francis Cabot (1925–2011), American gardener and horticulturalist
 * Ann-Renée Desbiens (1993–), Olympic ice hockey player

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Robopon 2 Ring and Cross Versions

Robopon 2 Ring Version and Robopon 2 Cross Version are video games published by Atlus and released for the Game Boy Advance in 2001–2002. They are sequels to the Game Boy Color game Robopon. Their simultaneous release is similar to how the Pokémon series of video games are released in pairs of games (such as Pokémon Red and Blue) to promote inter-connectivity between them.

The games are a sequel to the earlier 2000 Game Boy Color game Robopon Sun. The Robopon bears much similarity to Nintendo's series of Pokémon games, and thus is often considered to be a Pokémon clone, but also bears similarity to the lesser known Super Nintendo Entertainment System game Robotrek, released by the Japanese game company Enix (now Square Enix).

Story
After the events of the first game, the now number one Legend of Porombo Island, Cody, sets out for new lands and new titles, but forgets his Robopon. Before he can turn back to retrieve them, his boat is wrecked in a storm, and he washes up on the continent of Majiko. He decides to become the Robopon champion of this land; however, in order to do this, he must obtain the one-of-a-kind XStones and challenge the rank-holders of Majiko. As he collects the XStones, however, he finds the towns of Majiko are troubled by events past and present, and he must travel between the world of 20 years ago and the present to make things right.

Gameplay
Within both versions of Robopon 2, Robopon can be created by finding different types of batteries and combining them (this process in known as "sparking"). Each different combination of batteries produces a different type of Robopon. Robopon 2 also builds upon the battle system of the first game by implementing four-on-four battles, allowing the player's whole party of Robopons to participate in one big battle. Subsequently, targeting certain enemies within battles becomes crucial. Another less drastic change from Robopon is the ability to change the colour of the player's Robopon.

Reception
Both Robopon 2 games received "average" reviews according to video game review aggregator Metacritic. GameSpot named Robopon 2 the second-best Game Boy Advance game of August 2002.

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Spain at the 1992 Summer Olympics

Spain was the host nation for the 1992 Summer Olympics in Barcelona. The Games were quite exceptional for Spain because their athletes were competing not only in their home country, but also in the home city of IOC President Juan Antonio Samaranch. 422 competitors, 297 men and 125 women, took part in 195 events in 29 sports.

Medalists

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Competitors
The following is the list of number of competitors in the Games.

Archery
The four Spaniards had little success in the individual round, with only one qualifying for the elimination matches. He lost in the first round. The men's team, however, surprised the world by pulling off four upsets to claim the gold medal—Spain's first archery medal—in front of a home crowd.

 * Men

 * Women

Athletics

 * Key
 * Note–Ranks given for track events are within the athlete's heat only
 * Q = Qualified for the next round
 * q = Qualified for the next round as a fastest loser or, in field events, by position without achieving the qualifying target
 * NR = National record
 * N/A = Round not applicable for the event
 * Bye = Athlete not required to compete in round
 * NM = No mark

 * Track & road events
 * Men

 * Women

 * Field events
 * Men

 * Women

 * Combined events – Men's decathlon

Men's team competition
Spain came within half an inning of losing all seven of its preliminary round games in the first official Olympic baseball tournament. Trailing Puerto Rico 6-4 going into the bottom of the ninth, Spain rallied for three runs to win its only Olympic victory in the sport.

 * Preliminary round
 * Lost to United States (1:4)
 * Lost to Japan (1:12)
 * Lost to Dominican Republic (2:11)
 * Lost to Chinese Taipei (0:20)
 * Lost to Cuba (0:18)
 * Lost to Italy (1:14)
 * Defeated Puerto Rico (7:6) → 8th place

 * Men's Team Roster
 * Antonio Salazar
 * Enrique Cortés Pes
 * Félix Manuel Cano
 * Francisco Javier Aristu
 * Gabriel Valarezo
 * Javier Díez
 * Jesús Lisarri
 * José Arza
 * José Luis Becerra
 * José María Pulido
 * Juan Ignacio Damborenea
 * Juan Manuel Salmerón
 * Juan Pedro Belza
 * Luis Carlos León
 * Manuel Martínez
 * Miguel Ángel Pariente
 * Miguel Stella
 * Oscar Rebolleda
 * Xavier Camps
 * Xavier Civit

Men's tournament

 * Team roster

 * Group play

 * Classification round, 9th to 12th place

 * 9th place match

Women's tournament

 * Team roster

 * Group play

 * Classification round, 5th to 8th place

 * 5th place match

Cycling
Fourteen cyclists, eleven men and three women, represented Spain in 1992. José Moreno won gold in the 1 km time trial.

Track

 * Sprint

 * Points race

Qualification Legend: Q = Qualify to quarterfinals Group A (medal); q = Qualify to quarterfinals Group B (non-medal)
 * Pursuit

 * Time trial

Fencing
17 fencers, 15 men and 2 women represented Spain in 1992.

 * Men

 * Women

Football
Key:
 * Summary
 * A.E.T – After extra time.
 * P – Match decided by penalty-shootout.

 * Team roster

 * Preliminary round (group C)
 * Spain — Colombia 4-0 (3-0)
 * Spain — Egypt 2-0 (0-0)
 * Spain — Qatar 2-0 (1-0)

 * Quarterfinals
 * Spain — Italy 1-0 (0-0)

 * Semifinals
 * Spain — Ghana 2-0 (1-0)

 * Final
 * Spain — Poland 3-2 (0-1) → [[Image:Med 1.png]] Gold Medal

Artistic

 * Men

 * Women

 * Team

 * Individual finals

Handball
Key:
 * Summary
 * ET: After extra time
 * P – Match decided by penalty-shootout.

Men's team competition

 * Preliminary round (group B)
 * Spain — France 16-18
 * Spain — Egypt 23-18
 * Spain — Romania 21-20
 * Spain — Unified Team 18-24
 * Spain — Germany 19-18

 * Classification Match
 * 5th-6th place: Spain — South Korea 36-21 (→ Fifth place)

 * Team roster
 * Alberto Urdiales
 * Aleix Franch
 * Angel Hermida
 * David Barrufet
 * Enric Masip
 * Fernando Bolea
 * Iñaki Urdangarín
 * Jaume Fort
 * Javier Cabanas
 * Juan Francisco Alemany
 * Juan Francisco Muñoz
 * Lorenzo Rico
 * Luis Eduardo García
 * Mateo Garralda
 * Ricardo Marín

 * Head coach: Javier García Cuesta

Women's Team Competition

 * Preliminary round (group B)
 * Spain — Austria 16-20
 * Spain — Norway 16-20
 * Spain — South Korea 18-28

 * Classification Match
 * 7th-8th place: Spain — Nigeria 26-17 (→ Seventh place)

 * Team roster
 * Amaia Ugartemendía
 * Begoña Sánchez
 * Blanca Martín-Calero
 * Cristina Gómez Arquer
 * Dolores Ruiz
 * Esperanza Tercero
 * Karmele Makazaga
 * María Eugenia Sánchez
 * Mercedes Fuertes
 * Montserrat Marín
 * Montserrat Puche
 * Paloma Arranz
 * Raquel Vizcaíno
 * Rita María Hernández

 * Head coach: Francisco Sanchez Sanchez

Hockey
Key:
 * Summary
 * FT – After full time.
 * P – Match decided by penalty-shootout.

Men's tournament

 * Preliminary round (group B)
 * Spain — New Zealand 3-0
 * Spain — Malaysia 5-2
 * Spain — Unified Team 4-0
 * Spain — Pakistan 1-6
 * Spain — Netherlands 2-3

 * Classification Matches
 * 5th-8th place: Spain — India 2-0
 * 5th-6th place: Spain — Great Britain 2-1 (→ Fifth place)

 * Team roster
 * Santiago Grau (gk)
 * Ignacio Escudé (c)
 * Joaquín Malgosa
 * Miguel Ortego
 * Juantxo García-Mauriño
 * Jaime Amat
 * Jordi Aviles
 * Pedro Jufresa
 * José Antonio Iglesias
 * Xavier Escudé
 * Javier Arnau
 * Victor Pujol
 * Juan Dinarés
 * David Freixa
 * Pablo Usoz
 * Ramón Jufresa (gk)

 * Head coach: Santiago Cortes

Women's tournament

 * Team roster

 * Preliminary round (group A)
 * Spain — Germany 2-2
 * Spain — Canada 2-1
 * Spain — Australia 1-0

 * Semi Finals
 * Spain — South Korea 2-1 (after extra time)

 * Final
 * Spain — Germany 2-1 (after extra time) → [[Image:Med 1.png]] Gold Medal)

Judo

 * Men

 * Women

Modern pentathlon
Three male pentathletes represented Spain in 1992.

Rowing
Qualification Legend: FA=Final A (medal); FB=Final B (non-medal); FC=Final C (non-medal); FD=Final D (non-medal); FE=Final E (non-medal); FF=Final F (non-medal); SA/B=Semifinals A/B; SC/D=Semifinals C/D; SE/F=Semifinals E/F; QF=Quarterfinals; R=Repechage

Sailing

 * Men

 * Women

 * Mixed

Shooting

 * Men

 * Women

 * Open

Swimming

 * Men

 * Women

Synchronized swimming
Three synchronized swimmers represented Spain in 1992.

 * Women's solo
 * Eva López
 * Marta Amorós
 * Nuria Ayala

 * Women's duet
 * Eva López
 * Marta Amorós

Volleyball

 * Summary

Men's team competition

 * Preliminary round (group A)
 * Defeated Canada (3-2)
 * Lost to Italy (0-3)
 * Lost to Unified States (2-3)
 * Defeated Japan (3-2)
 * Defeated France (3-2)

 * Quarterfinals
 * Lost to Cuba (0-3)

 * Classification Matches
 * 5th/8th place: Lost to Italy (0-3)
 * 7th/8th place: Lost to Unified Team (2-3) → 8th place

 * Team roster
 * Ángel Alonso
 * Benjamín Vicedo
 * Francisco Hervás
 * Héctor López
 * Jesús Garrido
 * Jesús Sánchez
 * Juan Carlos Robles
 * Miguel Ángel Maroto
 * Rafael Pascual
 * Venancio Costa
 * Francisco Sánchez
 * Ernesto Rodríguez

Women's Team Competition

 * Preliminary round (group A)
 * Lost to Unified Team (0-3)
 * Lost to Japan (0-3)
 * Lost to Unified States (0-3)

 * Classification Match
 * 7th/8th place: Lost to PR China (0-3) → 8th and last place

 * Team roster
 * Ana María Tostado
 * Asunción Domenech
 * Carmen Miranda
 * Estela Domínguez
 * Inmaculada González
 * Inmaculada Torres
 * Laura de la Torre
 * María del Mar Rey
 * Marta Gens
 * Olga Martín
 * Rita Oraá
 * Virginia Cardona

 * Head coach: Jaime Fernández Barros

Men's tournament

 * Preliminary round (Group B)
 * Spain — Netherlands 12-6
 * Spain — Greece 11-6
 * Spain — Hungary 8-5
 * Spain — Italy 9-9
 * Spain — Cuba 12-10

 * Semifinals
 * Spain — United States 6-4

 * Final
 * Spain — Italy 8-9 (→ [[Image:Med 2.png]] Silver medal)

 * Team roster
 * Daniel Ballart
 * Jesús Rollán
 * Jordi Sans
 * Josep Picó
 * Manuel Estiarte
 * Manuel Silvestre
 * Marco Antonio González
 * Miguel Ángel Oca
 * Pedro Francisco García
 * Ricardo Sánchez
 * Rubén Michavila
 * Salvador Gómez
 * Sergi Pedrerol

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Talk:Kyogre

Incorrect Japanese name
The Japanese name is and has always been "Kyogre" and not "Kaiorga". That name can be found on various Japanese merchandising with the Japanese name in roman letters. Here's a photo of a decorational banner found at Pokémon Festa 2005 at Tokyo Big Sight: --Nyoo 16:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect weight
The weight of 1104.4 lbs is incorrect, as Kyogre's actual weight is 776.0 lbs. I checked it on Pokemon FireRed and then again on Pokemon Sapphire, just to be sure the original weight wasn't changed for some obscure reason. --Byaku Kitsune 15:55 8 July 2007 (GMT)

After note: I rectified the mistake, so it's all good. Byaku Kitsune

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Sixty Years' War

The Sixty Years' War (Guerre de Soixante Ans; 1754–1815) was a military struggle for control of the North American Great Lakes region, including Lake Champlain and Lake George, encompassing a number of wars over multiple generations. The conflicts involved the British Empire, the French colonial empire, the United States, and the Indigenous peoples of the Americas. The term Sixty Years' War is used by academic historians to provide a framework for viewing this era as a whole, rather than as isolated events.

French and Indian War (1754–1763)
Canadians view this war as the American theater of the Seven Years' War, whereas Americans view it as an isolated American conflict with no bearing on European conflicts. Some scholars interpret this war as part of a larger struggle between the Kingdoms of Great Britain and France; most historians view it as a conflict between the colonies of British America and those of New France, each supported by various Indian tribes with some assistance from the "mother country". Both sides sought control of the Ohio Country and Great Lakes region, known in New France as the "upper country" (the pays d'en haut). Indians of the pays d'en haut had longstanding trade relations with the French and generally fought alongside the French. The Iroquois Confederacy attempted to remain neutral in the conflict, except for the Mohawks who fought as British allies. British conquest of New France marked the end of French colonial power in the region and the establishment of British rule in Canada.

Pontiac's War (1763–1765)
Indian allies of the defeated French launched a war against the British due to dissatisfaction with their handling of tribal diplomacy. Pontiac found allies willing to attack British forts from Detroit in modern day Michigan, to Pennsylvania and New York, and even down the Mississippi. Hostilities came to an end after British expeditions in 1764 led to peace negotiations over the next two years. The Indian were unable to drive away the British, but the uprising prompted the British government to modify the policies that had provoked the conflict. The murder of Pontiac in 1769 led to war between rival Indian nations.

Lord Dunmore's War (1774)
The expansion of colonial Virginia into the Ohio Country sparked a war with Ohio Indians, primarily Shawnees and Mingos, forcing them to cede their hunting ground south of the Ohio River (Kentucky) to Virginia. This also began a period sometimes referred to as the Twenty Years War, in which the Shawnee struggled against incursions into their territory.

Western theater of the American Revolutionary War (1775–1783)
The Royal Proclamation of 1763 prohibited American colonists from settling the lands acquired from France at the conclusion of the French and Indian War, but this caused resentment among the colonists and is often cited as one of the causes of the American Revolutionary War (1775-1783). The war spilled onto the frontier, with British military commanders in Canada working with North American Indian allies to provide a strategic diversion from the primary battles in the east coastal colonies. Many conflicts in this western theater would harden the animosity between the native tribal nations and the new United States.

At the conclusion of the war, Great Britain ceded to the new United States the Old Northwest, home of many of Britain's Indian allies, and all of the lands south to the Gulf of Mexico. The Treaty of Paris (1783) granted the United States jurisdiction to the Mississippi River without consulting the Native nations who lived there.

Northwest Indian War (1785–1795)
Following the 1783 peace treaty with Great Britain, a nascent United States sought expansion into the Ohio Territory. A large confederacy of Native American nations resisted settlement and sought to establish the Ohio River as the boundary between themselves and the United States. After years of minor skirmishes between militias and Native Americans, the United States launched a series of punitive campaigns deep into the Great Lakes region. The confederacy won overwhelming victories in 1790 and 1791, and gained support from Great Britain. The United States was forced to rebuild the Army and finally defeated the confederate forces at the 1794 Battle of Fallen Timbers. The confederation fractured, and the war officially ended with the Treaty of Greenville, which granted to the United States control over most of the modern state of contested Ohio.

During this time period, U.S. Congress passed the Northwest Ordinance, which stated "Indians; their lands and property shall never be taken from them without their consent; and, in their property, rights, and liberty, they shall never be invaded or disturbed, unless in just and lawful wars authorized by Congress." Seeking to avoid another costly war, President Thomas Jefferson promoted a policy of assimilation and removal. This continued to foster resentment among the native nations.

War of 1812 (1812–1815)
A number of North American Indians under the leadership of famous Shawnee war chief Tecumseh formed a union to resist American hegemony and expansion in the Old Northwest. While Tecumseh was away, Tecumseh's Confederacy suffered a drastic defeat in the 1811 Battle of Tippecanoe, a year before the second British-American War. The United States declared war on the United Kingdom in June 1812, and the British Canadians once again turned to North American Indians on the interior to provide manpower for their frontier war effort. Native American fighters were successful in multiple battles against the United States, including the Battle of Fort Dearborn (near the site of present-day Chicago) and the sieges of Detroit and Prairie du Chien. The war between the United States and British Canada eventually ended after numerous bloody border engagements as a stalemate, after resisting a set of American invasions seeking to assimilate the northern Canadian British and French colonials into the independent American union of states, a prime goal of the original western "War Hawks" agitators, south of the border.

After the peace treaty signed in Ghent reached North America in 1815, joint efforts began establishing the Great Lakes as a permanent boundary between the two nations. The United Kingdom returned outposts and territories captured from the United States, leaving their Native allies without the advantages they had earned.

Following this long struggle, the increasing numbers of Canadian immigrants from Europe were, like their more independent neighbors to the south, free to gradually develop the several northern British colonies of Upper and Lower Canada into semi-independent provinces, and eventual confederation in 1867 as an autonomous Dominion under the Crown in the British Empire. American Indians in the region no longer had European allies in the struggle against American and Canadian westward expansion.

Legacy
Andrew Cayton argues that while the wars in the Great Lakes region were downplayed by colonial powers along the Atlantic coast, their influence is immense. The United States greatly expanded in size, setting their shared border with British Canadians along the Great Lakes. French communities south of the lakes were soon Americanized, and Native American nations were marginalized, removed, or destroyed. The conclusion of hostilities permitted the United States to focus resources on the Creek War and Seminole Wars in the South. The United States and the Sauk later signed a treaty in 1816, but the United States used that treaty to claim Sauk lands east of the Mississippi River, leading to the Black Hawk War in 1832. The Ohio River continued to act as a border between southern states and the Northwest Territory, where slavery had been outlawed, setting regional differences that would help shape the American Civil War.

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Talk:Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers

Removing link from recent submitted update
Hello there, this morning, I updated the names of the IEEE leadership, which appear in the gray content box on the page. With the name of the new IEEE President, a hyperlink was auto generated from his name, Saifur Rahman, to this page, which has no direct relevance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saifur_Rehman....  I would like to request removal of the hyperlink, if possible, thank you.

IEEE Comms (talk) 20:48, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

✅ --Randykitty (talk) 22:27, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Need assistance: Please update name of President
Hello, I am requesting that the name in the "Key People" field in the information box is updated with the name of the 2024 President. Please replace Saifur Rahman with Thomas Coughlin. Thank you. IEEE Comms (talk) 14:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


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Apure River

The Apure River is a river of southwestern Venezuela, formed by the confluence of the Sarare and Uribante near Guasdualito, in Venezuela, at 7.25°N, -70.66667°W, and flowing across the Llanos into the Orinoco. It provides significant transportation in the area.

Origin
Most of the streams that ultimately form the Apure originate in the Venezuelan highlands of the Cordillera de Mérida and only some minor affluents of the Sarare River come from the Cordillera Oriental in the Colombian Andes, entering Venezuela at the confluence with the Oirá River which has a very narrow and steep valley and forms the border between the two countries for 41 km. The Oirá River starts in Venezuela and its thalweg forms that border for several kilometres downstream. The Uribante River is longer than the Sarare and flows from the Táchira-Mérida border, near the town of Pregonero. The Apure's drainage area thus includes the slopes of both the Colombian (less than 0.5 percent of its total area) and the Venezuelan Andes.

Course

From the point where the Uribante joins the Sarare, the Apure flows eastward across the Venezuelan llanos, into the Orinoco. The Apure flows primarily through Apure State including San Fernando before joining the Orinoco River via six braided river branches west of Cabruta, Guárico State, across from Caicara, Bolívar State, at about 7.66667°N, -66.41667°W. The Apure is 645 mi long from the Uribante's starting point to the Orinoco. It is navigable for about 500 mi above the Orinoco, where it has a sluggish course across the llanos, despite rapids at about the 110 mi mark. From the north, its principal tributaries are the Caparo, Portuguesa and Guarico. The Caucagua is its only major tributary from the south. Because of the flatness of the land its meanders and bayous to the south are mingled with those of the Arauca River creating an extensive area which is flooded annually. However, both rivers keep independent channels during dry season.

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Pomarico

Pomarico (Pomerikon) is a small town of 4500 inhabitants in Southern Italy, in the region Basilicata. It is about 30 km from Matera, the capital of the province to which Pomarico belongs. The town was founded about 850 AD by the Byzantines. An old castle was built but only few ruins of it remain.

Main sights

 * The Marquess Palace, built in the 18th century, and still standing in the centre of the town.
 * The Main Church dedicated to St. Michael, also built in that period. It has a Baroque façade and contains a wooden statue of St. Michael (1400), as well as paintings of Pietro Antonio Ferro and Andrea Vaccaro.
 * The church of St. Anthony of Padua (18th century). It lies by a former convent, now used as the city hall.

People

 * Niccolò Fiorentino (lawyer and patriot during the Neapolitan Revolution)

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Nellee Hooper

Paul Andrew "Nellee" Hooper (born 15 March 1963) is a British record producer, remixer and songwriter known for his work with many major recording artists beginning in the late 1980s. He also debuted as a motion picture music composer with Scottish composer Craig Armstrong and Marius de Vries for the soundtrack for Baz Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet in 1996.

Hooper has produced seven Grammy Award-winning recordings for artists including Smashing Pumpkins, U2, Soul II Soul, and Sinéad O'Connor. He has been awarded Q's Best Producer award and twice been Music Week Producer of the Year.

Biography
Born in Bristol, Hooper began his career in 1982 as a percussionist and backing vocalist with Bristol punk funk post-punk band Maximum Joy. He later became a DJ as a member of The Wild Bunch, the Bristol-based sound system and group that became Massive Attack.

Between 1989 and 1992, he produced albums for Soul II Soul (Club Classics Vol. I), Sinéad O'Connor (I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got), and Björk's first outing (Debut), which in 1995 Mixmag magazine ranked the 31st and 3rd best dance albums of all time, as well as Massive Attack's second album (Protection).

The 1995 BRIT Awards honoured Hooper as Best Producer for his work on Massive Attack's Protection, Björk's Post and Madonna's Bedtime Stories albums.

In 1998, he won a BAFTA Award (Anthony Asquith Award for Film Music) for his work arranging the score and soundtrack for Baz Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet.

In the late 1990s, Hooper set up the Meanwhile... label, which is a subsidiary of Virgin Records.

Hooper continued to work steadily into the 2000s. He received a Grammy nomination in 2003 for his work on No Doubt's Rock Steady and Lamya's Learning from Falling albums. His other work has included producing the singles "GoldenEye" (1995) for Tina Turner, "Under the Bridge" (1998) for All Saints and "Down Boy" (2002) for Holly Valance as well as providing remixes for artists like Janet Jackson and Sade.

He has worked with Gwen Stefani on her solo albums and on U2's 2004 release How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, for which he won a Grammy Award. He also produced the debut solo album of Andrea Corr of The Corrs, titled Ten Feet High, released on 25 June 2007.

Hooper produced the full-length debut album for Disney actress/singer Emily Osment, Fight Or Flight in 2010.

In 2011, Hooper produced Paloma Faith's Fall to Grace, nominated for two Brit awards for Best Female and Album of the Year.

Grammy winners
Soul II Soul 1989 Soul II Soul's 1989 Album Club Classics Vol. One (known as Keep on Movin’ in the US), produced by Hooper, was awarded two Grammys: "Back to Life" won Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals and "African Dance" won Best R&B Instrumental Song.

Sinead O'Connor 1991 Sinéad O'Connor took the Best Alternative Music Performance Grammy for her album I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got.

Smashing Pumpkins 1997 Single "The End Is the Beginning Is the End" won the Best Hard Rock Performance award at the 1997 Grammys.

U2 2006 How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb won Album of the Year at the 2006 Grammys. The single "Sometimes You Can't Make it on Your Own" won two awards; Best Rock Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal and Song of the Year.

Romeo + Juliet score
Nellee Hooper was responsible for the BAFTA award-winning soundtrack to Baz Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet in 1996. He worked with Scottish composer Craig Armstrong and English composer Marius van Wyk de Vries. It was Hooper's first and only motion picture score. Hooper armed the soundtrack with sequences of bombastic choral and flamboyant orchestral forces, and fused it with his well-known hip hop, electronica and trip hop genres. Hooper since has not been active in the motion picture industry.

Technology
In 2021, Hooper joined Tone a venture capital firm, as an advisor alongside Gee Roberson, the former Chairman of Geffen Records, and manager of Kanye West.

Selected production credits

 * "Shame on You" (Andrea Corr)
 * "I Need Your Lovin'" (12" extended remix) (Alyson Williams)
 * "#1 Crush" (Nellee Hooper Remix) (Garbage)
 * "Down Boy" (Holly Valance)
 * "Under the Bridge" (All Saints)
 * "Got 'til It's Gone" (Nellee Hooper Master Mix) (Janet Jackson feat. Q-Tip and Joni Mitchell)
 * "Ordinary Girl" (LOLENE)
 * Fall to Grace (Paloma Faith)
 * "Where Are You Now" (Nellee Hooper Mix) (Janet Jackson)
 * "Feel No Pain" (Nellee Hooper Remix) (Sade)
 * "Young Hearts Run Free" (Kym Mazelle)
 * "GoldenEye" (Tina Turner)
 * "6 Underground" (Nellee Hooper Edit) (Sneaker Pimps)
 * "Gabriel" (Nellee Hooper Mix) (Lamb)
 * "Nothing Compares 2 U" (Sinéad O'Connor)
 * Björk
 * "It's Oh So Quiet"
 * "Big Time Sensuality"
 * "Hyperballad"
 * "Venus as a Boy"
 * "Violently Happy"
 * "Isobel"
 * "Human Behaviour"
 * "Army of Me"
 * "Sweet Sweet Intuition" – It's Oh So Quiet b-side
 * Gwen Stefani
 * "Wonderful Life"
 * "Early Winter"
 * "What You Waiting For?"
 * "Luxurious"
 * "The Real Thing"
 * "Danger Zone"
 * The Smashing Pumpkins
 * "The End Is the Beginning Is the End"
 * "The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning"
 * "Perfect" (Nellee Hooper Mix)
 * No Doubt
 * "Hella Good"
 * "It's My Life"
 * "Running"
 * Lamya
 * "Black Mona Lisa"
 * "Empires"
 * Madonna
 * "Bedtime Story"
 * "I Want You" feat. Massive Attack
 * "Sanctuary"
 * "Inside of Me"
 * "Survival"
 * "Forbidden Love"
 * Soul II Soul
 * "Keep on Movin'"
 * "Back to Life"
 * "Get a Life"
 * U2
 * "Sometimes You Can't Make It on Your Own"
 * "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me"
 * "If God Will Send His Angels"
 * Emily Osment
 * Fight or Flight

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magnetic reversal

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was merge/redirect. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 13:10, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Magnetic reversal
The material in this article appears almost word-for-word in Earth's magnetic field as a section of the article. Delete the article, or the section in Earth's magnetic field? Arcturus 17:27, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Earth's magnetic field (although there's only about one line different), as that article isn't overlong. Average Earthman 18:07, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect per Average Earthman. --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 04:42, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Earth's magnetic field, concur with AverageEarthman. Megan1967 05:22, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jay Lemke

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep. moink 12:31, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Jay Lemke
Vanity. Page is a near-copy of Jay Lemke's personal home page at UMich. Kelly Martin 21:42, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and rewrite. Accoring to LOC, he has two publications to his credit (Talking science: language, learning, and values and Textual politics: discourse and social dynamics, has some notability. Megan1967 07:14, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep and rewrite. The entry of a person is inevitable to contain some factual information that almost the same in the similar topic articles. This situation happens alot in entry of musicians, bands, etc.--Pinc 16:56, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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User talk:Bogdangiusca/Archive5

Archives
 * Archive 1 (May 2003 - September 2004)
 * Archive 2 (October 2004 - November 2004)
 * Archive 3 (December 2004 - January 2005)
 * Archive 4 (February 2005 - March 2005)

David Mertz
Perhaps you can clarify the deletion policy for me. A user, Jguk, added the VFD tag to the article David Mertz, which is about me (at least me outside Wikipedia). I removed that tag since it was obviously put there only out of malice (related to a disagreement on some other pages, about Wikipedia policy). If it is not appropriate for me to edit that tag, I'll refrain from doing so; but it's placement was clarly non-serious. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 21:57, 2005 Apr 25 (UTC)

 * The Wikipedia policy says that the tag should be kept until the VFD process ends. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 04:26, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Fuck the Border
Thanks for your input on Fuck the Border :), if you could confirm that the Romanian means the same as the English (in meaning rather than direct translation I could move it up to 'Confirmed' FrancisTyers 20:16, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Just a question: is it meant to be about a specific border, or about the concept of border ? It ought to be used the plural, if it is the second one. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 20:30, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * The english means something like "fuck the concept of borders", in french this translates to "fuck the borders", so in romanian it would probably translate to the same. Definately not a particular border, more the idea of borders or just all the borders :) FrancisTyers 21:40, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Alba county
Thanks for arranging the list of villages - I'm still a beginner so I don't know all the tricks yet.

COTW Project
You voted for History of Quebec, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.

Archaeologist
Bogdan, Hristos a Înviat! Ma gândeam ca poate ai putea sa ma ajuti putin. Ieri treceam prin articole si schimbam "archeologist" la "archaeologist" când s-a bagat unul pe fir si mi-a zis sa ma opresc sau ma blocheaza. Pe urma mi-le-a schimbat pe toate la loc. A zis ca e o ortografie britanica, dar nu are dreptate. "Archaeologist" e de vreo cinci ori mai comun in Wikipedia si de vreo patru ori pe Google. Am cautat si cu Lexis-Nexis în ziare americane, si "archaeologist" a fost folosit 84% din timp în ultimele sase luni. Plus ca state americane ca Iowa, Minnesota, Wyoming, South Carolina, si South Dakota au cu totii un State Archaeologist, ca sa nu zic nimic de Archaeological Institute of America, Society for American Archaeology, Society for Historical Archaeology, si Biblical Archaeology Society--toate bazate în SUA. Numai "archaeologist" apare în dictionarul prestigios Merriam-Webster. Deci ideea e ca exista "archeologist" in America, dar e foarte rar, si cred ca tipul asta n-a avut dreptate sa reactioneze cu atâta forta împotriva mea. Ce zici--sa-l las în pace, sau sa-ncerc altceva? --Cristian, 18:40, 3 Mai 2005 (UTC)

 * În Wikipedia, dacă există mai multe variante corecte ale unui cuvânt, ar trebui să se păstreze grafia pe care a folosit-o autorul original al articolului. "Archeologist", chiar dacă nu este varianta cea mai corectă, pare să fie o variantă acceptată, conform "The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language".
 * Şi nu, tipul ăla în nici un caz n-ar fi trebuit să reacţioneze aşa. Please do not bite the newcomers. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 20:25, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Ei bine, multumesc pentru ajutor. Am sa fiu mai atent cu corectarile. 21:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Walmart
Stop your bias editing of the Walmart page.

 * It's not bias. The NPOV policy says to not to divide pages according to POV. You don't write the positive facts to Adolf Hitler article and have a Criticism of Adolf Hitler page where you put the negative things. If you think something is presented not respecting the NPOV, edit in that article, do not move it to another page. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 08:46, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

it was split due to the length of the critism in such a case it is deserves its own page. AS WELL AS A REBUTAL SECTION!

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO A WALMART ANYWAY????

3 Reverts comment(this is not policy, it is hotly disputed practice, keep it off the policy page)GET WITH IT!!

 * Just wanted to say I loved your Adolf Hitler example on Talk:Wal-Mart. Kept me laughing for 5 minutes… — mjb 19:55, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

COTW Project
You voted for Culture of Ancient Rome, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.

Osco-Umbrian
The reason that there is no Osco-Umbrian article is that Oscan, Umbrian and Volscian each have their own articles linked to from the Italic languages page. --Jpbrenna 19:19, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

GFDL comment
I have already introduced GFDL to my pictures. Cheers, mate! (User:Viosan)

April Fool
You have been temporarily blocked from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may come back after the block expires. 210.54.199.126 08:15, 14 May 2005 (UTC) PS: Ha ha, April Fool!

 * You're about a month late. :-) bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 10:24, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Viking territories
Bogdan, you have made a most beatiful map at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vikings-Voyages.png, but I object to sweden beig named as viking territory, since it was swedish apart of the period of the union with denmark and norway. As for now, naming sweden, and other countries as viking territories, is very confusing for people who knows those countries even had a speciallly organized defence forces against the vikings. This has been a dispute between several persons, including me, on different pages, including Viking Age.

Presently, Your map is actually being used as a source that sweden was viking territory, which it never was. Can you see the dilemma here? regardlless with what people may with, or without reasonable reasons may associate as vikings, our history is clear here: Sweddish kingdom was NEVER conquered by vikings, although the old capitoal once was burnt by hem, and Birka was atacked several times. What can we do about this? Dan Koehl 13:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

 * OK, I will update it. However, I have a question: were there any settlements/colonies of the Vikings anywhere in Sweden ? bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 12:04, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

I think the only settlement of vikings, which can be backed up by sources, mentioning this term, was Jomsborg. There is a grey zone of peoples, tribes, etc, which on and off is interpreted as vikings, (which your map shows) based on the 1800-romantism, where the icelandic sagas made the term viking heroic. Allt his only contributes to confusion, calling a varyag viking, when no source ever mentioning him as viking etc. I belive some islands north of scotland was occupied by vikings until king Harald I of Norway ''was forced to make an expedition to the west to clear the islands and Scottish mainland of Vikings. Numbers of them fled to Iceland, which grew into an independent commonwealth, while the Scottish isles fell under Norwegian rule.'', but again, the sagas are a vague source, and Im not sure its correct to call any settlement a viking settlement, except for, probably Jomsborg, and eventually, the islands Dagö and Ösel. (Not on your map?)

Adam of Bremen records in his book Gesta Hammaburgensis Ecclesiae Pontificum, (volume four):

''Aurum ibi plurimum, quod raptu congeritur piratico. Ipsi enim piratae, 'quos illi Wichingos as appellant, nostri Ascomannos regi Danico tributum solvunt.''

engl:''There is much gold here (in Zealand), accumulated by piracy. These pirates, which are called wichingi by their own people, and Ascomanni by our own people, pay tribute to the Danish king.''

So wether that was a "viking" settlement or not is difficult to interprete. If they were paying tax to the danish king, I guess they were living in Denmark, and '#danish'' settlements. Theri viking activity was surely performed elsewehere.

My suggestion for the map; aviod any terms which can not be backed up by sources, so the the map itself does not become a source, which it was used as during previously deep discussions.

The whole era of viking age, is at last slowly getting analyzed in neutral ways, but it will take time to clean out fifty years of establishing a false meaning and interpretion of the word viking.

Thanks for your help. Dan Koehl 13:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

are you an admin yet?
hey bogdan, are you an admin yet ? there is this fictional article about Battle_of_Gatae that i have to ask an admin to speedy delete it. i want to vote you for admin, how can i do that ? -- Criztu 08:20, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

 * You are not supposed to speedy delete these things. You should nominate it at Votes for deletion and tell which are the reasons. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 11:36, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

people & people's language page separation
hi. i see that you are separating languages from their respective people pages. if you do so, then perhaps you should create a separate stub for the people rather than having these pages redirect to the language page as having language in the title discourages someone from writing something of the people (i.e. culture, history, etc.). my decision to put language information in a single page with both culture & language is because that this is much faster & more simple. also, remember Boas: language is, after all, the 4th branch of anthropology, inseparable from culture. peace. — ishwar  (SPEAK)  15:37, 2005 May 28 (UTC)

Suspect Persian Etymology for Narcissus
According to Plutarch's possibly incorrect folk etymology, νάρκισσος is derived from νάρκη which has an established Homeric pedigree -- if that's the case, then a Persian origin is unlikely. Merriam-Webster's has it as being possibly derived from a pre-Greek substrate language as it contains the the tell-talle -ss (-tt) and -nthos endings - again, making a Persian origin unlikely.

In fact, I suspect that the Persian name could be derived from the Greek via the Hellenistic diffusion. When is the first occurence of the word in Persian? What was your source for the etymology? The narcissi article on Wikipedia, or somewhere else? --Jpbrenna 18:36, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Szekelys and Szekelyfold
Hi Bogdangiusca, I noticed you follow the changes on the article "Szekely", so i guess you would be in a better position to referee a discussion that started. I saw some of your edits and consider you of good moral honesty. Here my remark to user Criztu following the discussion:

Dear Criztu, unless proven otherwise, you should consider the edits of someone as made in good faith. It seems you have set up your mind for an edit war, which i'd have no pleasure to pursue. You keep deleting objective reference to Szekelyfold on the basis of your perception that there is no such historical region. I just wonder if you would delete reference to, say, Oltenia based on the same argument. (Or would you "lol" at the statement that Olteans are inhabitants of Oltenia?). Indeed, there is the same strong connection between Szekelyfold and a geographical region in the mind of every hungarian, as for Oltenia in Romanians.

You say, "cuz i look at the map of Austria-Hungary in 1918 and i see no "historical region Szekelyfold".. Do you think this is enough argument to suppose it didn't exist? In fact, there was an administrative region, Szekelyfold, too. It lasted until 1867 when new counties were drawn after a compromise with the hapsburgs. You may even find maps of it (and see that its shape has nothing to do with today Harghita, covasna, mures) on the Hungarian national library site [] or on []. But I'm not historian, I'm sure there is even more reference to it than that. Akiss 06:17, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Arabic
Current policy (proposed by me, admittedly, but unopposed for nearly a year) is to keep all varieties of Arabic at * Arabic, rather than * Arabic language. Neutrality is thus maintained between those who view them as dialects and those who view them as separate languages. - Mustafaa 18:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * OK, then, I'll let the Arabic alone. Apparently the policy (I don't know whether it is written or not) for Romance languages and dialects is that the titles must be "* language" (afterall, a dialect is a language). The reason is that "*" is often the name of a region and needs a disambig. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 18:56, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Proto-Norse
Hi Bogdangiusca. I see that you have moved Proto-Norse to Proto-Norse language and that is fine. However, I doubt that it is correct to define it as a Proto-language, because it is well-attested from runic inscriptions.--Wiglaf 19:50, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * A proto-language is a language which is the ancestor of other languages and it does not makes any assumptions whetever it is known or just theorized. For reconstructed languages, of which we have no written records, such as the Proto-Indo-European, there is a different category: Proposed languages. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 19:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Then, I think Proto-language lacks that definition.--Wiglaf 20:02, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Well... it may be in this part: A relative proto-language is a language that reflects an earlier state in a language family. I'll try to make it more clear. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 20:08, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks :).--Wiglaf 20:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Your first name
Hello,

I was curious what the meaning of your first name was, because there is a Hungarian word Bogdán which means god's gift. --User:Hottentot

 * Well, the origin is Slavic and it indeed means "god's gift" (bog = god; dan = gift). Romanians and Hungarians must have picked it up from the Slavs. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 22:58, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Yeah, thanks. I was wondering, because you speak Romanian and all, I was wondering if you would be able to help me out with this word. My great-grandfather was from a village in Sălaj (Szilágy) county which was either spelled Stârciu or Stirciu, I'm not exactly sure, but when he grew up it was part of Hungary, and it was called Bogdánháza (home of god's gift, háza means house). I was wondering how the name Stârciu/Stirciu correlates with Bogdánháza, for example, what Stârciu/Stirciu means in Romanian for one thing. Thanks.

---User:Hottentot

 * Stârciu (alternate older spelling Stîrciu) is most likely derived from "Stârc" (meaning Stork), with suffix "-iu". bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 08:03, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

lots of edits, not an admin
Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 23:26, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

Megleno-Romanian language
Review the edit history. User:Theathenae "redirected" it to "Meglinitic language". It's been restored to Megleno-Romanian language. I'm trying to get more Romanian users to watch these pages. Decius 01:52, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Rutabaga
I think you have made a mistake. That photo you have put on the rutabaga page shows WHITE turnips. See the disambiguation page turnip.

Romanian Greek-Catholic Uniate Church
There seems to be some disagreement regarding the proper english translation for the name of this church. Perhaps you may wish to weigh in on the article, seeing as you introduced the current name? ——Preost talk  contribs  02:55, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Rutherian/Ruthenian on your map
Hi,

On your map, I think, the name Ruthenians should be used instead of Rutherians. Adam78 18:25, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I must have been thinking of routerians. :-) bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 18:38, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Or maybe Rotarians... -- Jmabel | Talk June 29, 2005 01:11 (UTC)

Spam removal
Hi Bogdan - I've replaced the external link from Mozambique to Yellowikis. Yellowikis publishes under the GNU Free Doc License (Like Wikipedia) - it is not-for-profit organization and doesn't sell anything to anyone - so it is wrong to think of it as commercial comment spam. In fact some Wikipedians use it a place to transwiki commercial spam (see the discussion Votes_for_deletion/List_of_taxi_operators_in_Greater_Toronto_Area. Let me know what you think.--Payo 28 June 2005 11:46 (UTC)

Hungarian versions of place names in articles pertaining to Romania
Hi! There is a bit of a controversy evolving about the Hungarian versions of place names in articles pertaining to Romania. Criztu has started to delete the Hungarian (and in one case, German) variants of place names from the following articles, claiming that they were irrelevant: (Harghita, Covasna_(county), Cluj). I feel this move is unjustified. I would appreciate if you could have a look at the problem and give your opinion on Talk:Harghita.--Tamas 28 June 2005 15:21 (UTC)

If a place is known under different names by different nations, it should be written. As long as the official name is the first and all other variants are in brakes, I see no problem.MihaiC 30 June 2005 07:00 (UTC)

 * The problem is a bit more complicated. Everyone agrees that this should be the policy inside the appropriate articles, e.g. in the Miercurea_Ciuc article, (Csíkszereda) should be given too after the official Miercurea Ciuc. The question is, what to do in other articles. Like in the Harghita article, Mierucurea Ciuc is mentioned. Now should we give the Hungarian version in parentheses here as well, or only in the Miercurea Ciuc article itself?--Tamas 30 June 2005 09:39 (UTC)

Romania in the Middle Ages
Please see my question at Talk:Romania_in_the_Middle_Ages. -- Jmabel | Talk June 29, 2005 01:10 (UTC)

Northern Dobruja
hi Bogdan, i seee you've created a Northern Dobruja article. Since the name Dobrogea is used only as a historical term in Romania, not as a current administrative unit, info from Northern Dobruja should be merged with Dobrogea. Wha', do you see any "Western Transylvania" or "Western Banat" article, about the western parts of Transylvania and Banat that went to Hungary ? -- Criztu

Viking territory
Dear Bogdangiusca, there is still your map, showing sweden as viking territory, which, as far as I know, never was. Presently, that map, does not really give an NPOV picture about the swedish kingdom, (as well as with Norwegian, and danish kingdoms) I thought you meant to change this. If not, and you claim another opinion, could you please name a written source claiming that sweden was overtaken by vikings? (exept for the burning of Sigtuna town which was a raid over a couple of days) Dan Koehl 3 July 2005 09:27 (UTC)

Double redirects
You made the move to Argeş River, but did not fix double redirects. I suspect you moved many pages since the permission to use any chars in page titles, so this is just a warning to double check your moves. mikka (t) 5 July 2005 04:09 (UTC)

Broken link
Plaese note that the link "The Independent / Found: Europe's oldest civilisation" is broken :-)

Pietro 5 July 2005 17:13 (UTC)

 * Found another link :-) bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 5 July 2005 17:49 (UTC)

survey about providing hungarian names for counties of Romania in Transylvania
sal Bogdan, pls look at the text of the Survey about providing the names of the counties of the Kingdom of Hungary as alternates for the names of the counties of Romania on Talk:Harghita. if this matter if of interest to you, offcourse -- Criztu 9 July 2005 15:41 (UTC)

Romania: a deletion you made
Could you possibly answer my question at Talk:Romania? I'd like to understand a deletion you made. -- Jmabel | Talk 17:55, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

Irod
I'm guessing you might be able to answer the question recently asked at Talk:Irod. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:08, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

Cedilla
This is becoming a theme: could you please see my comment at Talk:Cedilla? I'd like to understand a deletion you made. (I wouldn't have so many questions if you left edit summaries on your deletions of material.) -- Jmabel | Talk 00:37, July 16, 2005 (UTC)

misterious fonts
sal Bogdan, i come across a lot of Romanian place names that have these weird "ț" in them. like Bistrița. I see your name the same way, as "bogdan ʤjuʃkə". What's going on ? What is this encoding ? Im afraid people pretty much don't see these font -- Criztu 09:23, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

 * do you see it like a square or something like that ? it's probably because you don't have the unicode fonts installed. I see "ț" as t with a comma bellow. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 09:30, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

 * You may need to install this (13 MB) bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 09:40, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * thanx for lnk, i had unicode-UTF8 -- Criztu 10:02, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Romanian dynasties
sal Bogdan, i'd like to indicate the lineage of the Moldavian rulers and Wallachian rulers. e.g. Mircea the Elder, Vlad Tzepesh, Stefan the Great, Dan I and Dan II were all from Basarab lineage. should we call them Dynasty of Basarab ? or should we simply indicate their common lineage ?

 * "dinastia Basarabilor" is commonly used in Romanian historiography, so I think calling them "Basarab Dynasty" is OK. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 20:27, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

I really dislike this formulation on Romania in the Middle Ages : "From the 14th century to the 17th century, the principalities' histories are replete with overthrows of princes by rival factions often supported by foreigners" considering they were actualy "family affairs". -- Criztu 17:55, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

 * well, there were actually rival factions: see Dan II vs. Radu II Prasnaglava at List of Wallachian rulers. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 20:27, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
 * ofcourse they were rival factions, but current formulation suggest "anarchy" while stating they were dynastic clashes for succesion would put the facts in a more relevant light -- Criztu 20:47, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Dacian examples supporting Satem classification
I was wondering if you could find some more Dacian examples that indicate a Satem classification of Dacian for the Dacian language article. It's not enough to just say "it is commonly supposed to be Satem"---where is the evidence? I know of as many Centum as Satem Dacian examples. I can see advantages in Dacian being either Centum or Satem or inbetween, so I really am not commited to any option. Decius 06:45, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Here are some examples:
 * Aizisis (lamb / cf. Greek "aigis")
 * Apo (water / cf. Sanskrit "apa", Baltic "upe")
 * Germizena, Germisara (hot / cf. Sanskrit "gharma")
 * Giri-dava (mountain / cf. Sanskrit "giri", Slavic "gora")

 * I'll keep looking for more. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 12:36, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Aizisis (a toponym)---a veritable Satem example, which I've already noted, from PIE *aig-, 'goat'.
 * Apo ---not a Satem example. The PIE root is *ap- (or even *akwa, if *kw became 'p').
 * Germizena--- Germi- is not a Satem example, it is from PIE *gwher-, 'warm'. -Zena would be a Satem example if it is in fact Dacian and if it is from PIE *gene-, 'to beget'.
 * Giridava (a toponym) ---not a Satem example. Giri- would be from PIE *gwer-, 'mountain'; while -Dava is from PIE *dhe-.

 * Decius, you're right that these words seen as "evidence" for the satem theory are not real satem transitions, but simply words theat just have close cognates with words of Satem languages, but that's what I've seen as
 * However, it would be interesting to see a list with all the toponyms ever found, each with attempts to make the transitions from PIE. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 21:57, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

---Decius 21:24, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm going to make a list on Talk:Dacian language of the Satem examples we've collected so far. Eventually, we will work them into the article---alongside the Centum examples. Decius 21:48, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

 * The problem with admitting elements such as Germi- in themselves as evidence of a Satem language is that, not only are they not Satem reflexes, but they can also be found in Centum languages: Gaelic gar, 'warm' (PIE *gwher-), Old Irish gorim, 'burning' (PIE *gwher-). Decius 22:25, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Deşteaptă-te, rumâne!
--Theathenae 16:49, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Pardon me, but what do you mean ? bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 16:52, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Just watch yourself, rumâne. Because I'll be watching you.--Theathenae 16:55, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Every breath you take / Every move you make / I'll be watching you, right ? :-)
 * Don't you have a job or something better to do ? bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 16:57, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Theathenae threating other users is not allowed, you get free with a warning this time, but next time if you continue tthreating Bogdangiusca you will be temporary banned, and if you don't get your act right together afterwards you will be probably perament banned. Albanau 17:11, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Administrative map of Romania
sal Bogdan. About "Administrative map of Romania" over at Romania article in the "Counties" section. I think either represent all historical regions of Romania (Crisana, Maramures, Banat, Ardeal, Moldova, Bucovina, Oltenia, Muntenia, Dobrogea) or represent the Administrative regions of Romania (N-V, Center, W, N-E, S, S-E, S-W). currently it is ambiguous as it represents Transylvania Moldova Wallachia and Dobrogea, neither a representation of the Administrative regions, nor Historical regions, nor "former principalities of T, W and M). -- Criztu 11:29, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Image:Vikings-Voyages.png
Do you have a blank version of this map? Image:Vikings-Voyages.png. without the text. please answear on my norwegian talkpage no:Bruker:Martin. Maradyb 18:41, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

I am sorry, but I do not see why you insist on an erroneous version of the map. For instance on your map, there are no scandinavian settlements in Russia, and there are no portages. Are you an anti-normanist POV-pusher?--Wiglaf 07:05, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Oops... Actually I just wanted to bring up a new version that did not had Sweden highlighted (see request up on this page), but I didn't realized that you modified the map and added the settlements in Russia. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 07:25, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Oh, I see :).--Wiglaf 19:49, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

PS, if you do not consider me to be an authority, try to check some historic maps for a start.--Wiglaf 07:11, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Suspicion of original research at Romanian language
user:Node ue cut two of the three versions of the human declaration of rights from the Romanian language section on grounds of original research. Could you have a look at the thing and confirm whether it can be considered as such? Circeus 21:03, July 22, 2005 (UTC)

There is no original research there. Circeus, you can reference each word in the DEXOnline and it will indicate that each word in the third example is native, and that the highlighted words in the other two are borrowed. Node ue is an extremely annoying troll, and perhaps also a Slavophiliac. Decius 04:39, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Atheist/Leftwing Anarchist
An atheist and a Communist? Who would've guessed. (never understood the point of being an atheist or a communist myself) Decius 21:55, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

 * You're saying that like it's a bad thing. :-)
 * I am an atheist, but that's just a personal opinion and has nothing to do with my political opinions: I don't like mixing religion and politics in any way.
 * Also I don't describe myself as a Communist, because people associate that name with Leninism, Stalinism and our own brand. :-)
 * I don't militate for an immediate change of the way things work. I just think that the current organization of the society is not the optimum and thus can be improved. And no, I don't boycott the capitalist system, nor the current political system: I work for a multinational and I voted for the Liberals at the last election. :-)
 * bogdan | Talk 21:10, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I was teasing a bit. In an ideal future society some sort of semi-Utopian communism might give us a better world society than capitalist society has given us. But any attempt to institute such a communist society anytime soon is bound to fail, pure and simple. Decius 00:27, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

 * About atheism, what can I say. I'd rather not preach (and besides, I have no formal religion to preach; I am an Orthodox Christian more for political reasons and traditional reasons rather than because I feel the Orthodox Church or any Church has it right). Decius 00:27, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Gardening for the Million topics
Hi Bogdan - I saw you uploaded this from the Gutenberg Project. I can appreciate why (it is out of copyright, so free use), but unfortunately it is so badly out of date (100 years!) in scientific nomenclature (and language!) that it will be a nightmare to get it updated. It also doesn't contain any very useful new information. Personally, I'd rather see it removed from wikipedia because it is potentially very confusing to users not aware of the dated nomenclature - MPF 16:22, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Hmm... I think you're right. I converted it to a list of plant names and even if some of them are obsolete, we should have a redirect. bogdan | Talk 17:10, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I'll check it through - there were also at least one or two that had text scanning errors in, which needn't be made into redirects (e.g. "Cedrus deodora" as an error for Cedrus deodara) - MPF 17:58, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, and thank you for the corrections you made to that list bogdan | Talk 16:44, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

User name
Hi Bogdan, what's up. I was wondering how I can change my User name to Alexandru (My Real name). I'm going to miss "Decius" but I feel like leaving it behind. Peace, Alexandru 16:27, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

 * See: Changing username. It seems that only users with less than 5000 edits may change username using that function (which also would change all your edits from Decius to Alexandru) because of a limitation of the software.
 * However nothing stops you to use the User:Alexandru from now on. bogdan | Talk 16:44, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

My articles
Salut! Am scris doua articole. Daca doresti, poti sa le inspectezi si sa le corectezi. Poti sa adaugi diacritici, etc. Mersi!

 * Dragos
 * Bogdan I of Moldavia

--Anittas 20:16, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

Nice try
But come back in a month or two, and I'll probably have to top off that Wikistress meter of mine. ;) « alerante ✆ ✉ » 17:59, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

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Social Affairs Unit

The Social Affairs Unit is a right-leaning think tank in the United Kingdom. Founded in 1980 as an offshoot of the Institute of Economic Affairs, it publishes books on a variety of social issues. Its website notes that "many SAU supporters are inclined to believe that the generation which fought the Second World War were rather too keen on social engineering over the goals of personal responsibility".

The Unit published Standpoint (2008 - 2021), a monthly cultural and political newsstand magazine edited by Daniel Johnson (2008 - 2018), Michael Mosbacher (2018 - 2019), Edward Lucas (2019 - 2020) and Andreas Campomar (2020 - 2021).

History
The Social Affairs Unit was established in December 1980 as an offshoot of the Institute of Economic Affairs, in order to carry the IEA's economic ideas into the field of sociology. "Within a few years the Social Affairs Unit became independent from the IEA, acquiring its own premises." Founded in 1980 as a registered charity, its founder chairman was Professor Julius Gould, and its founder Director, Dr. Digby Anderson. Anderson often contributed leading articles to UK national newspapers, was Director from 1980 to 2004, when he retired and was succeeded by Michael Mosbacher.

Funding
The Social Affairs Unit raised approximately £4,300 in funds from its publications which were underwritten by £10,000 in donations. Documents released as part of the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement showed that the Unit accepted funding from British American Tobacco in the 1980s.

Trustees

 * Prof. David Womersley
 * Prof. Simon Green
 * Mark Fisher CBE FRSA

Other

 * Director: Michael Mosbacher (2004 - 2019)
 * Media Fellow: Richard D. North (2004 - 2012)

Advisory Council

 * Dr. Digby Anderson
 * Dr. Alejandro Chafuen
 * Professor Christie Davies (died 2017)
 * Professor Adrian Furnham
 * Professor Jacques Garello
 * Professor Nathan Glazer (died 2019)
 * Dr. Simon Green
 * Professor Leonard Liggio (died 2014)
 * Professor David Martin (died 2019)
 * Professor Antonio Martino (died 2022)
 * Professor Michael Novak (died 2017)
 * John O'Sullivan

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User:Andreac

Hi! I'm Andrea. I'm from the midwestern United States. I have a whole lot of interests, but the thing I probably know the most about is music, especially singer-songwriter, acoustic and folk music.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Braingle

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep moink 17:14, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Braingle
Advertisement. Kelly Martin 21:47, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak keep and expand. 141,000 Google hits is pretty good. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd  22:14, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * keep those are a lot of its Yuckfoo 01:21, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Neutral. Send to cleanup; delete if it doesn't get expansion and a POV-ectomy within a reasonable timeframe. Current contents not particularly encyclopedic. Niteowlneils 04:05, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: link spam. Wile E. Heresiarch 05:36, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, cleanup and expands. Appears notable. Megan1967 07:54, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. I rewrote the article a bit to have a more encyclopedic tone. I am not sure that it helped or not. Zzyzx11 | Talk 05:54, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Might be notable, but it still smacks of advertising IMO. --Jemiller226 06:27, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Gemini531 04:40, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Clean or Boot. I also agree with Jemiller226 but i also think, if this is NOT cleaned, it should be deleted. --

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.