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Edgar Buchanan

William Edgar Buchanan II (March 20, 1903 – April 4, 1979) was an American actor with a long career in both film and television. He is most familiar today as Uncle Joe Carson from the Petticoat Junction, Green Acres, and The Beverly Hillbillies television sitcoms of the 1960s.

Early life
The son of Dr. and Mrs. William Edgar Buchanan, he was born in Humansville, Missouri, on March 20, 1903. He moved with his family to Oregon when he was seven. In 1928, he earned a DDS degree from North Pacific College School of Dentistry, which later became Oregon Health & Science University School of Dentistry. His wife Mildred (1907–1987) and he, classmates in dental school, were married in 1928, the year he graduated. They had one child, a son named Buck. In 1939, they moved from Eugene, Oregon, to Altadena, California, where they relocated their dental practice. He joined the Pasadena Playhouse as an actor. He appeared in his first film in 1939, at the age of 36, after which he turned his dentistry practice over to his wife. He was a member of Theta Chi fraternity and a Freemason.

Career
Buchanan appeared in more than 100 films, including Texas (1941), in which he played a dentist and appeared with William Holden and Glenn Ford and later in Penny Serenade (1941) with Irene Dunne and Cary Grant, Tombstone, the Town Too Tough to Die (1942), The Talk of the Town (1942) with Ronald Colman, Cary Grant and Jean Arthur, The Man from Colorado (1948), Cheaper by the Dozen (1950), Shane (1953), She Couldn't Say No (1954), Ride the High Country (1962) with Randolph Scott and Joel McCrea, McLintock! (1963) with John Wayne, Move Over, Darling (1963) with Doris Day and James Garner, and Benji (1974).

Among the many television series in which he was cast as a guest star were Cimarron City, The Californians, and The Rifleman. Edgar appeared in six episodes of The Rifleman, playing Grandpa Fogerty in "The Long Goodbye" (episode 119) and Doc Burrage in the other five: "The Pet" (episode 15), "The Second Witness" (episode 23), "The Trade" (episode 24), "The Deadly Wait" (episode 26), and "The Angry Man" (episode 31). In addition to several other widely varying roles on the series (running the gamut from sympathetic parts to vicious villains), he portrayed Jed Christianson in the episode "Duel at Sundown" on Maverick with James Garner and Clint Eastwood. He was on Leave It to Beaver (as both "Uncle Billy" and "Captain Jack"), The Twilight Zone, Riverboat (as Wingate Pardee in the 1960 episode, "Duel on the River"), Gunsmoke (in 1962 as the title character “Old Dan” - S7E18), Route 66, Bringing Up Buddy, Bus Stop, and The Lloyd Bridges Show.

Buchanan's roles as a regular cast member in television programs included Red Connors in the syndicated Western Hopalong Cassidy, and J.J. Jackson in the CBS crime drama Cade's County.

Buchanan appeared as Uncle Joe Carson in all 222 episodes of Petticoat Junction, the only actor from the show to do so, as well as in 17 episodes of Green Acres, and three episodes of The Beverly Hillbillies. On Petticoat Junction, he took over as proprietor of the Shady Rest Hotel following the 1968 death of show star Bea Benaderet, who had played Kate Bradley; Buchanan had starred as second lead since the series' inception. In the 1966 episode "The All-Night Party" and in the 1969 episode "Kathy Jo's First Birthday Party", he appeared with his real-life son, Buck (who had a cameo as a party goer and an ice cream vendor, respectively). Another star from Petticoat Junction and he appeared together in the 1974 movie Benji; the other "star" was Higgins the dog, which portrayed the title character.

Buchanan appeared in multiple episodes of "Tales of Wells Fargo," starring Dale Robertson. He had the recurring role of a rascally ex-outlaw named Doc Dawson.

In 1967, Dot Records released "Phantom 309" (Dot #17047), a narration by Buchanan. The 45-rpm single was backed with "Cotton Picker".

Death
Buchanan died from a stroke complicated by pneumonia in Palm Desert, California in 1979, and was interred in the Forest Lawn - Hollywood Hills Cemetery in Los Angeles.

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Joseph

 * 1) Joseph II (1894-1965), King of Britannica
 * 2) Joseph III (1919-1992), King of Britannica
 * 3) Elizabeth I (1920-2003), Queen of Britannica
 * 4) Andrew (1955-), Earl of Kingsdown
 * 5) Diana (1957-), Countess of Swanton
 * 6) Joan I (1922-), Queen of Britannica
 * 7) Fiona I (1949-), Queen of Britannica
 * 8) James I (1983-), King of Britannica
 * 9) Robert (1950-), Duke of Columbia
 * 10) Lawrence (1975-), Duke of St. George
 * 11) Alexander (1988-), Earl of March
 * 12) Jammydodger/ (1975-), Jammydodger/
 * 13) Jammydodger/ (-), Jammydodger/
 * 14) Jammydodger/ (-), Jammydodger/
 * 15) Jammydodger/ (-), Jammydodger/
 * 16) Florence (1895-1963), Princess Royal

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Henry Navarro de Silva

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was speedy deleted. - Mailer Diablo 03:16, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Charles Henry Navarro de Silva
it was spedied deleted but it has reappeared! no google hits on him or his parents and the article says he is born in 1986 i think the article looks supicious --Melaen 20:28, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I cannot find confirmation of a previous speedy deletion. — Timwi 20:47, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * looks like it reappeared. The article doesn't appear as vanity at first glance, but the guy was born in 1986. It mainly talks about his family lineage. Delete. FYI- same IP addy has also posted a few copyvio articles. Feco 20:54, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * note that the creator appears to have erased the VfD notice. I re-posted, but I suspect it will disappear again. Feco 01:20, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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HBP

HBP most commonly refers to:
 * High blood pressure or hypertension

HBP may also refer to:

 * Heparin-binding protein or azurocidin 1, protein-coding gene in the species Homo sapiens
 * Hairpin-binding protein, protein-coding gene in humans
 * Human Brain Project, scientific research project
 * Harvard Business Publishing, US publishing company
 * Hit by pitch, baseball event in which the batter is hit by the pitched ball
 * Hornbeam Park railway station, railway station in North Yorkshire, England
 * Home buyers' plan, type of financial account in Canada for holding savings and investment assets

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DSE

DSE may refer to:

Economy

 * Dominant strategy equilibrium, an economic term in game theory

Stock exchanges

 * Dar es Salaam Stock Exchange
 * Dhaka Stock Exchange, the main Stock Exchange of Dhaka, Bangladesh
 * Damascus Securities Exchange, the main Stock Exchange of Damascus, Syria

Government and administration

 * Discover Science & Engineering, an Irish Government initiative
 * Department of Sustainability and Environment in Victoria, Australia
 * Data Services Environment, a service of the Defense Information Systems Agency, United States

Education

 * Delhi School of Economics
 * Disability Studies in Education
 * Hong Kong Diploma of Secondary Education, an examination after completing secondary education in Hong Kong

Sports

 * Dream Stage Entertainment, a Japanese company that promotes MMA and wrestling matches
 * Dolphin South End Running Club, a San Francisco running club

Science and medicine

 * DSE (gene), human gene which codes for dermatan-sulfate epimerase
 * Dobutamine Stress Echo, a cardiac stress test
 * Dark septate endophytes, a group of fungi that are symbiotic within vascular plant roots
 * Design space exploration, systematic analysis and pruning of unwanted design points based on parameters of interest
 * Discrete skeleton evolution, an iterative approach to reducing a morphological or topological skeleton

Computing and electronics

 * Dead Space: Extraction, a 2009 videogame available for the Nintendo Wii and the PlayStation 3
 * Dick Smith Electronics, an electronics company

Other uses

 * Dimokratikos Stratos Elladas, the Greek Civil War Communist army ('Democratic Army of Greece')
 * Dry Sheep Equivalent, a standard unit frequently used in Australia
 * Combolcha Airport in Ethiopia

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Grauspitz

The Grauspitz (Vorder Grauspitze or Vorder Grauspitz on some maps) is a mountain in the Rätikon range of the Alps, located on the border between Liechtenstein and Switzerland. With an elevation of 2599 m above sea level, the Grauspitz is the highest mountain in Liechtenstein. It is also the highest summit of the Rätikon range west of the Schesaplana massif.

The mountain lies between the valleys of Lawenatal (municipality of Triesen) on the north and the Fläscher Tal (canton of Graubünden, municipality of Fläsch) on the south. Both sides of the Grauspitz are in the basin of the Rhine, which flows approximately 7 km west of the mountain.

The easiest route to the summit ascends over the peak Hinter Grauspitz, and along a class 3–4 razor ridge.

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I am cuba
-SelfNomination, but a lot of work has been donw since I was there last. Maybe it needs something more on the plot (it doesn´t even have a spoiler warning ! :) ) --Alexandre Van de Sande 20:31, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Object. No references, extremely short sections (as mentionned, virtually no information on the story). No offence, but this is nearer to a stub than it is to a featured article. Except for the History section, your typical WP:DYK article is about that size. Phils 21:09, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Object. Not even close to a featured article; I'd love to see a good article on this, though, it's an amazing movie. -- Jmabel | Talk 21:10, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * Object. Too short. Gerrit MUTE 10:31, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Object. Featured articles are supposed to be comprehensive, this in no way, shape, or form fits that description. Put it on PR.  ALKIVAR ™ 20:06, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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Atsuya Okuda

Atsuya Okuda (奥田 敦也 Okuda Atsuya) is a Japanese-born master player and teacher jinashi shakuhachi, an unrefined bamboo flute. Prior to dedicating his efforts to the bamboo flute, he was a professional jazz trumpet player from approximately 1965 until 1985.

Biography
Since the death of Watazumi Doso in 1992, some regard Atsuya Okuda as the greatest living jinashi shakuhachi player. His style is very quiet and subtle and his patience has been described as "geological in dimension".

Okuda has taught shakuhachi since 1985 but until releasing The Sound of Zen in 2002, he refused to record his playing. He believed that only live sound leads to an understanding of jinashi shakuhachi. As of 2005, Atsuya Okuda lives and teaches in Kokubunji, a suburb of Tokyo.

Album

 * The Sound of Zen (2002)
 * Bamboo Zen (2010)
 * Plays Jinashi nobe Shakuhachi (2011)
 * So-Zen (2013)
 * Southern Island" - Tales of Palawan Island (2014)
 * Tales of Bamboo (2014)

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Gray Peak

There are several mountains called Gray Peak:
 * Gray Peak (California), Yosemite National Park, California, USA
 * Gray Peak (New York), Adirondacks, New York, USA
 * Gray Peak (Washington), North Cascades, Washington, USA
 * Gray Peak (Wyoming), Gallatin Range, Wyoming, USA
 * Gray Peak (Yukon), Big Salmon Range, Yukon, Canada
 * Gray Peak (Antarctica), Queen Maud Mountains, Antarctica

Other mountains with similar names:
 * Grays Peak (British Columbia), Kokanee Glacier Park, British Columbia, Canada
 * Grays Peak, Rocky Mountains, Colorado, USA
 * Greys Peak, East Humboldt Range, Nevada, USA
 * Grey Peaks National Park, Queensland, Australia
 * Grauspitz, the highest peak in Liechtenstein

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Mascagnite

Mascagnite is a rare ammonium sulfate mineral (NH4)2SO4. It crystallizes in the orthorhombic system typically forming as stalactitic masses exhibiting good cleavage. It is soft (not higher than 2.5 on the Mohs scale) and water-soluble. Optical properties are variable; the purest form is transparent and colorless, but opaque gray or yellow deposits are also known.

It occurs in fumaroles, as at Mount Vesuvius and associated with coal seam fires. It was named for Italian anatomist Paolo Mascagni (1752–1815) who first described the mineral.

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Matt Skiba

Matthew Thomas Skiba (born February 24, 1976) is an American musician, singer and songwriter. He is best known as the co-lead vocalist and guitarist of the punk rock band Alkaline Trio, and served as the co-lead vocalist and guitarist of Blink-182 from 2015 to 2022. Skiba's lyrical content commonly involves dark romantic themes.

Alkaline Trio formed in 1996 with Skiba as the frontman. Since then, the band has released nine full-length albums over two decades. Skiba also recorded albums with side projects including Heavens and the Hell, as well as two full-length solo albums with his backing band, the Sekrets.

Following Tom DeLonge's second departure from Blink-182 in early 2015, Skiba was brought on to fill in for three shows and was later made a full-time member. He recorded two albums with the band, California (2016) and Nine (2019), before DeLonge returned in 2022.

Early life and family
Matthew Thomas Skiba was born on February 24, 1976, in Chicago, Illinois, and grew up in McHenry, Illinois. He began playing piano and drums at an early age. His first concert was Public Image Ltd. In 1996, while working as a bike messenger delivering beepers, he decided to switch from drums to guitar. Prior to that he played in bands including Blunt, Jerkwater, and the Traitors.

Skiba has 2 siblings and is of Ukrainian descent. His mother, Joan Skiba, is a fourth and fifth grade teacher at Woods Creek Elementary School in Crystal Lake, Illinois. His father, Thomas Skiba (1942–2022), was an oral surgeon in Crystal Lake who served in the Vietnam War.

Alkaline Trio
Skiba studied design at Chicago's Columbia College but left in 1996 to form Alkaline Trio with drummer Glenn Porter and bassist Rob Doran.

After the group recorded their demo and the single "Sundials", they recorded the For Your Lungs Only EP, during which Doran left the group. Dan Andriano joined and played bass on the EP. The band released their debut full-length Goddamnit on Asian Man Records in 1998, followed by Maybe I'll Catch Fire and the compilation Alkaline Trio in 2000.

The group's lineup changed again in 2000 when Porter left and former Smoking Popes drummer Mike Felumlee joined. From Here to Infirmary, released by Vagrant Records in the spring of 2001. In 2002 Jade Tree Records released a Hot Water Music/Alkaline Trio split EP which was well received. Both bands contributed original tracks and covers of each other's songs. Good Mourning followed in 2003, marking the band's first album with drummer Derek Grant, formerly of Suicide Machines and Thoughts of Ionesco. While recording Good Mourning, Skiba suffered from vocal problems due to acid reflux, lack of vocal warmups, and earlier use of alcohol and drugs.

Following a tour and throat surgery, the band recorded and released Crimson in 2005 and the compilation Remains in 2007. Agony & Irony, their first and only record on Epic Records, was released in July 2008. In January 2010 they released This Addiction on their own Heart & Skull label in partnership with Epitaph Records. In July 2011, they released a semi-acoustic LP called Damnesia to commemorate 15 years as a band. Their eighth album, My Shame Is True was released on April 21, 2013.

In 2014, the band underwent an anthology tour known as the "Past Live Tour", in which they performed their first eight studio albums in their entirety across four dates. Following a five-year hiatus from the studio and a second throat surgery for Skiba, the band released their ninth album, Is This Thing Cursed?, on August 31, 2018. The band released an EP titled E.P. on March 19, 2020. The band's tenth studio album, Blood, Hair, and Eyeballs, came out on January 26, 2024.

Blink-182
Following the departure of Tom DeLonge from Blink-182 in 2015, Mark Hoppus announced that Skiba would "fill in" for the band and performed two club shows and a slot at the Musink festival in March 2015. Later that year, the band confirmed that Skiba was now an official member and would be appearing on their upcoming album. The resulting album California, was released on July 1, 2016. Skiba reappeared on the band's eighth studio album Nine, which was released on September 20, 2019. However, he did not appear on the band's 2020 single "Quarantine", due to lack of a proper home recording studio.

In July 2022, Skiba stated in an Instagram comment reply that his status with Blink-182 was uncertain while also saying that he was grateful for his time in the group. In October 2022, Blink-182 announced that DeLonge had officially returned to the band. Skiba was absent in promotional material, effectively confirming his departure. DeLonge messaged Skiba on Instagram to thank him for his time with the band, and later shared the post publicly on his account. Skiba himself reposted some of the promotional material of the new single on his Instagram account, congratulated the band for the reunion of their classic line up and stated his gratitude for his time in the band.

Side projects and solo
In 2001, he began his first full solo tour with The Plea for Peace Tour, consisting mostly of acoustic versions of Alkaline Trio songs with backing drums and bass in a few shows.

His first solo release came in 2002 in the form of a split with Kevin Seconds of 7 Seconds fame. The songs were mostly acoustic with drums, bass, and piano played by Skiba. Alkaline Trio still occasionally performs the song "Good Fucking Bye".

In 2005, Skiba contributed the song "Demons Away" to the Fat Wreck Chords' compilation Protect: A Benefit for the National Association to Protect Children.

In 2006, Skiba launched the band Heavens with F-Minus bassist Josiah Steinbrick. The group released Patent Pending on September 12, 2006.

Also in 2006, Skiba contributed to the track "Rock 'n' Roll High School" featured on Brats on the Beat: Ramones for Kids, a tribute album released on Go-Kart Records.

In May 2007, Skiba performed five shows with Chuck Ragan of Hot Water Music.

In late December 2008, Steinbrick announced on Heavens' MySpace page, "This is no longer a Heavens page. Sorry, that's just the way it's going down. Matt will still be doing Trio stuff and last I heard he might be working on a wonderful solo record. I'm not really positive actually but I'm sure it will be great." A falling-out between Skiba and Steinbrick led to the breakup.

On August 18, 2009, at Debonair Social Club in Chicago, Skiba, Grant and Greg Corner and Jonny Radtke of Kill Hannah debuted the supergroup cover band Them Crooked Vulvas (and occasionally played under the name A Perfect Circus).

On August 10, 2010, he released a solo album titled Demos on Asian Man Records. The album is said to be a precursor to a future Alkaline Trio album.

In January 2012, Skiba released an EP along with former Angels and Airwaves and The Offspring drummer Atom Willard under the moniker The Hell. The Hell's debut EP is entitled Sauve Les Requins.

Skiba's second full-length solo album, Babylon, was released on May 8, 2012. The album features Skiba leading a band called Matt Skiba and the Sekrets; the backing band includes AFI bassist Hunter Burgan, and former touring drummer for My Chemical Romance Jarrod Alexander. "Voices" impacted radio on May 1, 2012.

In early 2013, Matt Skiba encouraged Mike Park of Asian Man Records to release The Smith Street Band's first two albums in America. Skiba had met the band's guitarist Lee Hartney and fallen in love with his personality and tones. Blink 182 and The Smith Street Band played together in 2017 at Hurricane Festival in Germany.

Skiba confirms his current work on a solo record, a screenplay, and a children's punk record featuring Mark Hoppus.

In March 2015, Skiba and the Sekrets' second album, Kutz, was announced for a release date of June 1.

In May 2023, Skiba released new music with a band called Lektron, returning to Asian Man Records.

Guitars
Although he started out as an avid player of Gibson Les Pauls, Skiba currently plays Fender Jaguar HH's. He has also played Gibson Les Paul Juniors, Gibson SGs, Fender Stratocasters and Fender Jazzmasters in the past.

He has had two signature instruments made:
 * GPC released a limited run of Matt Skiba Signature guitars (with the Jaguar body shape), with 200 being manufactured.
 * Fender released a signature acoustic guitar dubbed the Malibu, which was featured on the cover of Alkaline Trio's acoustic album Damnesia

Amps

 * Diezel VH4
 * Bogner Shiva
 * Orange Rockerverb 100
 * Fender Supersonic 22
 * Kemper Profiling amp

Skiba used a Kemper profiling amp while in the studio with blink-182 and John Feldmann.

Along with his own amps, the profiled sounds that were used include:

 * Friedman Browneye
 * Hughes & Kettner Statesman
 * Vox AC15
 * Silvertone 1471

Personal life
Skiba is a vegan and practices Transcendental Meditation according to an interview with AOL Interface. He said that the clear and calm state of mind it provides has greatly helped his creative process, though initially he believed the "tortured soul" mindset was more beneficial. The book Catching the Big Fish by David Lynch caused him to change his mind and he now believes a calm state is more artistically helpful. Matt purchased a membership in The Church of Satan organization back in the early days of Alkaline Trio, saying, "to me Anton LaVey was...very punk rock".

Skiba moved to the San Francisco Bay Area in 2001, though he currently lives in Los Angeles. He has "Love Song" tattooed on his knuckles. He is a "big Cure fan," a "huge Damned fan," "an enormous David Lynch fan", a "big Green Day fan" and a "really big Nirvana fan." Skiba is divorced. He is a close friend of NOFX frontman Fat Mike, and served as the best man at his wedding.

Solo

 * Matt Skiba / Kevin Seconds (2002)
 * Demos (2010)

With Alkaline Trio

 * Goddamnit (1998)
 * Maybe I'll Catch Fire (2000)
 * Alkaline Trio (2000)
 * From Here to Infirmary (2001)
 * Good Mourning (2003)
 * Crimson (2005)
 * Remains (2007)
 * Agony and Irony (2008)
 * This Addiction (2010)
 * Damnesia (2011)
 * My Shame Is True (2013)
 * Is This Thing Cursed? (2018)
 * E.P. (2020)
 * Blood, Hair, and Eyeballs (2024)

With Blink-182

 * California (2016)
 * Nine (2019)

With Heavens

 * Patent Pending (2006)

With the Sekrets

 * Babylon (2012)
 * Haven't You? EP (2012)
 * Kuts (2015)

With theHELL

 * Sauve Les Requins (2012)
 * Southern Medicine (2013)

With Lektron

 * Lektron (single) (2023)

Guest appearances

 * New Found Glory – "Forget My Name" on Sticks and Stones
 * Avoid One Thing – "Pop Punk Band"
 * Atari Star – "Winter Birthmark"
 * Say Anything – "About Falling" on In Defense of the Genre
 * H2O – "What Happened?" on Nothing to Prove
 * Common Rider – backup vocals on This is Unity Music
 * Chuck Ragan – "The Boat" on Feast or Famine, "Do What You Do" on Feast or Famine
 * Ashes Divide – "The Prey" on Keep Telling Myself It's Alright
 * Rise Against – "Hairline Fracture" on Appeal to Reason, "Midnight Hands" on Endgame
 * Laura Jane Grace – "Amputations" on Heart Burns
 * Jeffree Star – "Louis Vuitton Body Bag" on Beauty Killer
 * William Control – "Deathclub" on Underworld: Rise of the Lycans
 * Kill Hannah – "Promise Me" on Wake Up the Sleepers
 * The Bouncing Souls – "Hybrid Moments" on Complete Control Recording Sessions
 * Dave Hause – "Benediction" on Devour
 * Teenage Time Killers – "Barrio" on Greatest Hits Vol. 1
 * Andy Black – "Stay Alive" on The Shadow Side
 * Steve Aoki – "Why Are We So Broken" on Neon Future III

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Mark Crowe

Mark Crowe is an American video game designer, artist, and writer who developed several adventure games, mostly for Sierra On-Line and its subsidiary Dynamix. He later worked at Pipeworks Software as Studio Design Director. Crowe is best known for creating the Space Quest series, mostly with his fellow "Guy from Andromeda", Scott Murphy.

Biography
Crowe started working at Sierra in its Art Department, creating designs for boxes and manuals. Crowe worked on several Sierra games, including Winnie the Pooh in the Hundred Acre Wood and King's Quest II, before collaborating with Scott Murphy on The Black Cauldron. Crowe was the Art Director for the game when Murphy was added as a programmer.

During the development of The Black Cauldron, Murphy and Crowe discovered their mutual fondness for science fiction. Eventually, they created a four-room concept to propose to Sierra founder Ken Williams that would eventually become the beginning scenes of Space Quest. First released in 1986, Space Quest was a quick hit among adventure game fans and Murphy worked with Crowe to develop another three games, ending with Space Quest IV in 1991. During this time, Crowe also worked on games from other series, including King's Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, and Police Quest. After Space Quest IV, Crowe moved to work at Eugene, Oregon, home of Sierra subsidiary Dynamix, where he developed Space Quest V without Murphy's input. During his time at Dynamix, Crowe worked on several other games, including the Earthsiege series.

Following major layoffs at Sierra and Dynamix in 1999, Crowe joined some of his former co-workers from Dynamix at Pipeworks Software, where he served as Studio Design Director. At Pipeworks, Crowe worked on a number of games including Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters Melee and Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian.

In 2012, Crowe left Pipeworks to join with Murphy and Chris Pope to start their own company called Guys from Andromeda. Following a successful Kickstarter campaign, they began work on a project called SpaceVenture as a spiritual successor to the Space Quest series.

In 2015, after Murphy needed some time away from the project for personal reasons, Crowe and Pope shifted focus on to a portion of SpaceVenture that didn't require as much writing. The game sequence features a character called Cluck Yegger and is built to play a key role in the game. To bring more funding into the project, Crowe and Pope decided to make the Cluck Yegger sequence into a game and release it to the public. The game was named Cluck Yegger in Escape From The Planet of The Poultroid. It was released privately to backers of SpaceVenture on October 29. 2015, and then was greenlit on Steam and released publicly on November 9, 2015.

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Alfonsine tables

The Alfonsine Tables (Tablas Alfonsíes, Tabulae Alphonsinae), sometimes spelled Alphonsine Tables, provided data for computing the position of the Sun, Moon and planets relative to the fixed stars.

The tables were named after Alfonso X of Castile, who sponsored their creation. They were compiled in Toledo, Spain, and contain astronomical data starting on June 1, 1252, the date of the coronation of the King.

Production

Alfonso X assembled a team of scholars, known as the Toledo School of Translators, who among other translating tasks, were asked to produce new tables that updated the Tables of Toledo. The new tables were based on earlier astronomical works and observations by Islamic astronomers, adding observations by astronomers Alfonso had gathered in Toledo, among them several Jewish scholars, like Yehuda ben Moshe and Isaac ibn Sid. He also brought Aben Raghel y Alquibicio and Aben Musio y Mohamat, from Seville, Joseph Aben Alí and Jacobo Abenvena, from Córdoba, and fifty more from Gascony and Paris.

The instructions for the Alfonsine tables were originally written in Castilian Spanish. The first printed edition of the Alfonsine tables appeared in 1483, and a second edition in 1492.

Georg Purbach used the Alfonsine tables for his book, Theoricae novae planetarum (New Theory of the Planets). Nicolaus Copernicus used the second edition in his work. One use of these and similar astronomical tables was to calculate ephemerides, which were in turn used by astrologers to cast horoscopes. Canons on the tables included those by John of Saxony and his teacher John of Lignères (fl 1320 to 1335).

Methodology
The methods of Claudius Ptolemy were used to compute the table, dividing the year into 365 days, 5 hours, 49 minutes, 16 seconds—very close to the currently accepted figure. Copernicus's observation that his system could explain the planetary motions with no more than 34 circles has been taken to imply that a large number of additional epicycles had been subsequently introduced into the Ptolemaic system in an attempt to make it conform with observation. (There is a famous (but probably apocryphal) quote attributed to Alfonso upon hearing an explanation of the extremely complicated mathematics required to demonstrate Ptolemy's geocentric model of the solar system: "If the Lord Almighty had consulted me before embarking on creation thus, I should have recommended something simpler.") However, modern computations using Ptolemy's unmodified theory have replicated the published Alfonsine tables.

Popularity
The Alfonsine tables were the most popular astronomical tables in Europe and updated versions were regularly produced for three hundred years. Nicolaus Copernicus, known as the father of modern astronomy, bought a copy while at the University of Cracow, and cared about it enough to have it professionally bound with pieces of wood and leather. Alexander Bogdanov maintained that these tables formed the basis for Copernicus's development of a heliocentric understanding in astronomy. In 1551, the Prutenic Tables (or Prussian Tables) of Erasmus Reinhold's were published. These tables used the Copernican heliocentric model of the solar system. Copernicus's publication, De revolutionibus, was not easy to use and the Prutenic tables were intended to make the heliocentric model more usable by astrologers and astronomers. However, the Prutenic tables were not widely adopted outside German speaking countries and new ephemerides based on the Alfonsine tables continued to be published until the publication of Johannes Kepler's Rudolphine Tables in 1627.

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Erich Ollenhauer

Erich Ollenhauer (27 March 1901 – 14 December 1963) was the leader of the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) from 1952 until 1963. He was a key leader of the opposition to Konrad Adenauer in the Bundestag. In exile under the Nazis, he returned to Germany in February 1946, becoming vice chairman of the SPD. He was a close ally of the chairman Kurt Schumacher, and worked on party organization. Where Schumacher was a passionate intellectual, Ollenhauer was a thorough and efficient bureaucrat. He became party leader after Schumacher's death in 1952. Besides attending to organizational details, his main role was moderating the tension between the left-wing and right-wing factions. He remained party leader until his death, but yielded to the charismatic Berlin mayor Willy Brandt in 1961 as the party's candidate for chancellor.

Early political career and exile
Ollenhauer was born in Magdeburg and joined the SPD in 1920. When the Nazis took power in 1933 he fled Germany for Prague. After the outbreak of WW2 Ollenhauer travelled across Europe in order to avoid Nazi persecution, first going to Denmark, then France, Spain, Portugal, and eventually London, where he remained until the end of the war. In London, he kept close ties to the Labour Party, which financially supported the expatriate SPD (called SoPaDe), of which Ollenhauer was a member. He also worked with the Union of German Socialist Organisations in Great Britain.

In February 1946, Ollenhauer returned to Germany. In May the same year, he was voted deputy leader of the SPD, behind Kurt Schumacher. Ollenhauer entered the Bundestag after the 1949 German federal elections.

Leadership of the SPD
After Schumacher's unexpected death in 1952, the SPD elected Ollenhauer as its leader. He ran as the SPD's candidate for Chancellor of Germany in the 1953 and 1957 German elections, both of which were lost to Konrad Adenauer's CDU.

In 1957, Ollenhauer called for a trans-European security alliance (in place of NATO and the Warsaw Pact), in which a reunified Germany would serve as an equal partner. The plan was then denounced as radical, but it helped pave the way for Willy Brandt's Ostpolitik and indirectly influencing some developments within the European Union, such as a European common security policy, and the eventual reunification of Germany. Ollenhauer's proposal is also known as the Ollenhauer Plan.

In 1961, Ollenhauer declined to run for Chancellor a third time and instead supported the candidacy of Berlin mayor Willy Brandt.

Ollenhauer died in Bonn on 14 December 1963 from pulmonary embolism.

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Talk:Edgar Buchanan

Blurb for Did You Know
Did You Know ...that Edgar Buchanan was a dentist before becoming an American actor with a long career in both movies and television, and is probably best remembered as Uncle Joe Carson from the Petticoat Junction and Green Acres television sitcoms of the 1960s. Prior to, and concurrently with that, he played "Uncle Billy" (Ward Cleaver's brother) on Leave It to Beaver in the late 1950s and early 1960s.

Edit summary error
My last edit summary for this article should have said "assessed for WikiProject Missouri". --TommyBoy (talk) 16:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Known Today
Get rid of the known today for playing Uncle Joe. Most people today don't remember Petticoat Junction or any of the other shows in which he appeared as Uncle Joe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C4:57F:E260:89BE:9D61:C2E8:D00D (talk) 04:16, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter if most, all, or some, people remember Petticoat Junction. JohndanR (talk) 05:32, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Earlier non-fatal stroke?
Did Edgar Buchanan suffer a small stroke in the ten years or so before his death? I've noticed in some of his performances during the 1960s and 1970s that he had a strange way of talking out of one side of his mouth, as if he had partial paralysis. — QuicksilverT @ 21:06, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

 * just my 2 cents.. but haaa no, simply a case of a cliche -talking out the side of one's mouth- manifesting into a character trait.. one never knew if one was being swindled, conned, or told a great fish story... 2602:304:CDAF:A3D0:6CA9:E58C:F65D:1591 (talk) 16:04, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

What is being disputed?
The "Early life" section contains a template that begins with "This section's factual accuracy is disputed. Relevant discussion may be found on Talk:Edgar Buchanan."

I must be missing something, because I don't see any indication of what part of the section is being disputed. Can anyone clarify what the template refers to? Eddie Blick (talk) 00:11, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

TV chronology needs to repair
Someone needs to repair the TV chronology - the years are jumping around all over the place - 1954, 1952, 1955, 1953, 1956. It's a mess. 70.73.90.119 (talk) 17:16, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

 * @70.73.90.119 I think he played a major role in Perry Mason season 2, episode 11, The Case of the Perjured Parrot. I didn't see that one on the list.
 * @ 96.19.67.18 (talk) 23:24, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

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Forum venalium

A forum venalium (pl. fora venalium) was a food market in Ancient Rome during the Roman Republic and Roman Empire. These mercantile fora were extensions of the Roman Forum and contained numerous buildings and monuments erected under the Republic and the Empire.

In his Politics, Aristotle proposed that a city should have both a free square in which "no mechanic or farmer or anyone else like that may be admitted unless summoned by the authorities" and a marketplace "where buying and selling are done... in a separate place, conveniently situated for all goods sent up from the sea and brought in from the country."

The Roman Forum was originally used for athletic games and trading purposes of all kinds; however, the forum became a political and banking center where bankers and brokers had their offices. The forum civilium (judicial) and fora venalium (mercantile) came into existence under the empire because of the growth of the city and the increase in provincial business. Maenius, one of the Censors, was chiefly instrumental in bringing about these changes.

The smaller fora venalia that specialized by type of produce were started along the Tiber, near Port Tibernius, with the Suarium at the foot of the Quirinal Hill towards the Campus Martius. The Boarium Forum for cattle, Forum Cuppedinis for delicatessen, Forum Holitorium (cabbage market) for vegetables, Forum Suarium for pork, Forum Piscarium for fish, Pistorium Forum for bread, and Forum Vinarium for wine.

The Roman Forum, and the Fora of Caesar and Augustus were fora civilia.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prussian Holocaust

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was no consensus. Tony Sidaway|Talk 14:49, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Prussian Holocaust
Issues with this page:
 * 1) Highly POV term used as a synonym for Evacuation of East Prussia in a manner that does not allow WP users to understand the context of the puroported synonymy;
 * 2) Very little used term, which I believe is used principally by German right-extremists as an analog of the somewhat more common German term to suggest a moral equivalence between the deaths in this ethnic cleansing and Jewish deaths in the Shoah;

I propose that this page be deleted, and it and its correctly capitalised version be blocked. Furthermore, the highly POV summary of Prussian holocaust at Holocaust (disambiguation) will need to be rewritten to accomodate its removal.

Point of order: this page was originally a redirect to Evacuation of East Prussia, which I edited to make clear was POV. Possibly this page should have been submitted to the Redirects for deletion page with its slightly lengthier process, however I think that the issues raised are more appropriate to a VfD process, and the page used to be an article with an active talk page.

I would like to acknowledge User:Jesusfreund for bringing my attention to this redirect. --- Charles Stewart 20:41, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I added the formal message at the RfD page, a suggestion to discuss the issue here. Mikkalai 23:06, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I saw you changed back the syntax of the body of the page to redirect syntax, which, in the unlikely case the page survives this VfD, is what will happen. If it were to be a redirect, I'd prefer it to be to a page along the lines of List of political epithets. --- Charles Stewart 09:58, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. No need to delete this redirect.   :) — Helpful Dave 10:40, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * You've no issue with being a useful idiot of neo-nazis, I take it? --- Charles Stewart 13:33, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. What Charles Stewart said. Jayjg (talk) 21:22, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete POV forkish non encyclopedic topic. Possibly RD to Evacuation of East Prussia. Klonimus 02:31, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. The Oxford English Dictionary defines Holocaust as: • noun - destruction or slaughter on a mass scale. Is anyone arguing that what occured in Prussia was not destruction or slaughter on a mass scale?  The Holocaust is defined as: the mass murder of Jews under the German Nazi regime in World War II.  If it was "The Holocaust" I would vote delete.  But it isn't.  People who are interested in this topic will likely refer to it as Prussian Holocaust. No vote as yet.--Chammy Koala 23:36, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * If you google for the exact term "P.H.", you will find that Wikipedia is on several of the first ten results; we already influence the rankings with the term.
 * First result offers a page where Users like Schlesier might get some of their informations from: It does not appear to be a Nazi site, but an obscure royal-christian-backward-nationalist- antisemitic mixture I cannot identify easily. The writer offers literature (scroll down page 7) which should be investigated for its origins and backgrounds some time.
 * The "Young Prussian Landsmannschaft" (which I believe is one of Schlesiers favorites) was organizing the last big gathering of right extremists from all over Germany on February 13, 2005 in Dresden, marching and shouting with their parole "bombing Holocaust". Intention of use of "Prussian Holocaust" is the same, I think. (Greetings for Charles!) Jesusfreund 23:02, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Also, if you google the same term in German ("Preußischer Holocaust"), you find NO result at all for the exact combination. So much for the encyclopedic relevance. Jesusfreund 23:02, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Excuse my arguing, but I suggest you look at the links of "Evacuation of East Prussia": one of them is "A Terrible Revenge" which I suggested for VfD also. The author of that book is known as Revisionist in Germany. Listing his book as a main scientific source for the article is highly POV I think.
 * Then, if you look at the Link Nemmersdorf on "A terrible revenge", you find an external weblink Nemmersdorf: New aspects of a crime One of the dark chapters by Thorsten Hinz (in German) leads you directly to the "Junge Freiheit", which is known as right extremist German publication, being watched by state officials. Don´t rely on such POV-sources, I suggest!! I don´t know your discussions and don´t want to interfere, but giving hints is not forbidden, is it?  Jesusfreund 00:00, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi Jesusfreund: Not only are your hints helpful, but you are a bona-fide editor of en.wikipedia.org, with a past record of providing very useful information that other editors incorporated into Bombing of Dresden in World War II. Your opinion has weight here. --- Charles Stewart 18:57, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete! It is more then just POV, it is terminus of (German) revisionists and Right-wing extremists to relate the Shoa by saying that Germans are victims to. See (and delete!) also Holocaust_%28disambiguation%29: The term Prussian Holocaust refers to the killing of 2 million German civilians near the end of World War II, by invading Soviet armies and air raids, and from the cold and starvation involved in fleeing such abuses. Many refugees were killed by Soviet bombers. Nemmersdorf is particularly associated with these war crimes. and compare it with Mayakovskoye, Kaliningrad! Krtek76 10:06, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) [Dont know, if I have enough edits to vote, I´m often to lazy to log myself in, but maybe de:Benutzer:Krtek76 counts ;-)) ]
 * Delete, and move discussion of the term "prussian holocaust," and how to include it in Evacuation of East Prussia, to the talk page of that article. +sj  +  07:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Some alternatives
It looks like this VfD is more controversial than I anticipated. I'd like to suggest what I view to be credible alternatives: What I regard as unacceptable are either: Opinions welcome. Please don't vote keep until you have thought about these alternatives. A point of order: it is ambiguous which of the two unacceptable alternatives I summarised a keep vote actually prefers: if you do vote keep, please indicate which is preferable. --- Charles Stewart 18:57, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) What I initially proposed in this VfD;
 * 2) A redirect to some page such as Politically tendentious terms for historical events, rather as Islamofascism is (currently) a redirect to List of political epithets;
 * 3) An article discussing the current political controversy around this name.  I doubt there is enough non-WP material at present to support a genuinely encyclopediac article along these lines, but in future there might be.
 * 1) The situation before I filed this VfD, namely a redirect to Evacuation of East Prussia; or
 * 2) The current situation, namely a link to that page with a little bit of boilerplate indicating the controversy;

 * Probably keep as redirect to Evacuation of East Prussia (unacceptable choice #1), and add more information on naming controversy to the article. While the Prussian Holocaust name is infrequently used, it is used, and by acknowledging this Wikipedia does not endorse the idea that it's a good name.
 * If, however, there is a lot of information available about the naming controversy, then keep as article discussing controversy (option #3).
 * Nickptar 00:49, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Agree with Charles that the last two scenarios are unacceptable. +sj +  07:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * The fact that the term is sometimes used is not an endorsement to an encyclopedia entry. nearly any two words may be put together side by side to mean something. Recently we deleted a very nice non-loaded "Second Family" term: Votes for deletion/Second Family. No big deal. Mikkalai 03:43, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete. Agree with Charles; an inherently POV term that isn't much used. SlimVirgin (talk) 06:41, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - These two words put together could mean nothing else. if you find the term itself objectionable, that is your own POV.  I had a similar disagreement with Jayjg over My objections with "Cedar Revolution".  This is only a re-direct, and as such, it should stay. --Irishpunktom\talk 13:59, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete. Wikipedias task is definitely not to promote POV-terms which nobody uses except Neonazis. No encyclopedic relevance whatsoever, no need to make such a big deal out of it either. Jesusfreund 07:11, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. If it keeps popping up, redirect to some page such as Politically tendentious terms for historical events. --Pjacobi 07:54, 2005 Apr 14 (UTC)
 * Delete. What Jayjg said --Mrfixter 10:55, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. What Irishpunktom said. The following is a list of some of the "holocaust" redirects on Wikipedia. Hindu Holocaust, Black Holocaust, Aboriginal Holocaust, Native American Holocaust, Kirisutan Holocaust, Armenian Holocaust, Hellenic Holocaust, Ukrainian Holocaust, Gay Holocaust, Jewish Holocaust, Chinese Holocaust and Asian Holocaust --Chammy Koala 18:39, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Nevertheless, the redirect is misleading because the evacuation of prussia was no and is not called a holocaust except by Neonazis. Got it? Jesusfreund 22:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Except that it's not just called Prussian Holocaust by neonazis and you have no proof of such. It is just your POV that it is. Got it? Probably not. --Chammy Koala 00:29, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I refer to the google links I find. There are only two (!) besides Wikipedia or Wikipedia copies itself who use the term --> encyclopedic irrelevance. One an them is a right extremist page (see above), the other one a Forum with some obvious right wing participants.--> probable propaganda term. - Both sources do not refer to the evacuation but to the expellation (which they do not differ on purpose) --> misleading. That´s not a proof, but a good hint, isn´t it? Where´s your argument? Jesusfreund 01:02, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

--Chammy Koala 09:48, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * You didn't look very hard. Here are just a few I found, I could find more.  I don't think anyone would argue that any of these sites are Nazi POV.
 * ipedia.com: Prussian Holocaust: Soviet rape and murder bands attacked East Prussia, raping and killing women and killing all men. Survivors trudged in great columns through the snow at -25°C, fleeing through the blizzards and shell fire. The German population of East Prussia was systematically eliminated.
 * Serebella.com: The Prussian Holocaust: None of these (from list) resulted in war crimes prosecutions.
 * llpoh.org/Reviewing_the_20th_century: Prussian Holocaust: Soviet rape and murder bands attacked East Prussia, raping and killing women and killing all men.
 * encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com: "Some have claimed that it was a case of ethnic clensing, or even genocide, and they use the term "Prussian Holocaust" to describe these events."
 * informationblast.com: "Prussian Holocaust: Soviet rape and murder bands attacked East Prussia."
 * These all appear to be syndicates of Wikipedia. You're rather making the case for the delete vote. --- Charles Stewart 10:25, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * You can't show that they are syndicates, particularly since the article in WP is called Evacuation of East Prussia, and the wording used in the article is not the same as the wording used in the sites I found by googling. The point is, that people do use the term, you have no real evidence to suggest the term isn't suitable, other than the fact that you feel it's a nazi term and you hate nazis.  I'm Australian and I've never heard the term Aboriginal Holocaust (and we all study the history in school), but I wouldn't vote to delete that redirect which is used on WP. Book on Prussia --Chammy Koala 11:52, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep as legitimate term and redirect to Evacuation of East Prussia. Does being a neonazi term somehow invalidate it from encyclopedic purview? Denni ☯ 22:58, 2005 Apr 14 (UTC)
 * Yes? Or to be handled in NPOV way like Zionist Occupied Government. --Pjacobi 23:34, 2005 Apr 14 (UTC)
 * Zionist Occupied Government is it's own article, no-one wants this to be it's own article. Prussian Holocaust should be a redirect, as it is. --195.7.55.146 13:19, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Denni: If it is a propaganda term and uncommon and plain wrong in it´s worded meaning of course it´s not valid for an encyclopedia. What do you think the NPOV is meant for if not for such cases? Jesusfreund 01:02, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * "Propaganda" and "wrong" are POV reasons to delete - NPOV means Wikipedia should document all encyclopedically notable terms and views, regardless of their validity or those who use them. However, I now doubt the encyclopedic notability of this term. Changing from keep to no vote. Nickptar 14:29, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep - political views shouldnt influence VFD decitions. If we would delete this, we would have to delete e.g. mentionings of WW2 as Great Patriotic War as it was known in Russia as it is a communist propaganda etc. This is a term used to describe thing mentioned and therefore should stay.DeirYassin 13:36, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * "Point of Order". The Great Patriotic War shows the weakness of the communists in Russia. Like the re-opening of the Orthodox Churches during WWII when the chips were down the communists appealed to Rodina not Lenin. The Great Patriotic War was named after the Patriotic War of 1812 when Napoleon invaded Russia. Philip Baird Shearer 18:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What is the German expression for "Prussian Holocaust"? As fas as I see, the English expression is of hardly notable usage. Most google links seem from wikipedia&mirrors amd a couple of hate speeches. "Preussisch Holokaust" and "Preussisch Verhichtung" (or with "Preußisch") give zero hits. Mikkalai 15:40, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * The exact term in German would be "Preußischer Holocaust"; as I pointed out earlier, there you find literally NO links at all. No serious historian uses that term, no published books either, only some right extremists. The links you find in English are indeed only Wikipedia copies, all of them: scroll down any of the sites Chammy provided and you find Wikipedia as the source; doesn´t matter if they have earlier versions, they remain to be copies. So there are no substantial reasons to keep it. Wrong comparisons don´t change that, because other terms are in use somewhere: This one isn´t. Political views shouldn´t influence VFD decisions: exactly! The term is only a redirect here because the editor had a political view on it. So vote for Keep is no political view? This is definitely against Wikipedia rules not to build up new theories. Jesusfreund 21:57, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete, or turn into a stub explaining that it's neo-Nazi nonsense. Noel (talk) 01:05, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete. The terms looks invented here for its emotional load. (Taking look on Evacuation of East Prussia - one may like to see more facts than what whose propaganda said.) Pavel Vozenilek 01:14, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete whenever the link is used in other Wikipedia articles it is used for neo-Nazi purposes. Philip Baird Shearer 18:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fictional hangouts in television series

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. (IP votes are not counted) - Mailer Diablo 03:30, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

List of fictional hangouts in television series

 * Huh? This material seems to be best suited for the respective TV series' articles. — Timwi 20:43, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Concur with that. Dissect then delete. Radiant_* 21:17, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, useful and interesting. Kappa 21:41, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, has a potential to be expanded - 69.216.232.13 22:17, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Note: user's 10th edit, and author of the article.
 * Delete noninformative, nonencyclopedic list. --Angr/comhrá 04:54, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, trivial, not encyclopaedic. Megan1967 07:05, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. "Rooftop"? "Restaurant"? Talk about trivial and useless. Can't imagine how this could become encyclopedic. --Calton | Talk 12:32, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete uninformative in this form.  CDC   (talk)  16:23, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - 68.23.108.171 04:13, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Note: user's only edit.
 * Keep - 68.72.135.184 23:04, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Note: user's first edit, and after wards he posted the following to Jimbo's talk page... "Hello, Jimbo. I'm going to interview you. I only have one question. - Are you a quitter?"
 * Delete. Useless fancruft. Wile E. Heresiarch 03:06, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, agree with CDC and Wile E. Heresiarch.   — J I P | Talk 06:25, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - 69.216.232.184 00:14, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - unmanageable, unusable if populated as intended. FreplySpang (talk) 16:54, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - 68.72.118.244 21:57, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as totally unmanageable, totally unencyclopedic and totally backed by support hosiery. - Lucky 6.9 05:43, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Info best suited to the individual shows. -- Lochaber 10:56, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Stunt (disambiguation)

A stunt is a difficult or unusual feat performed for film or theatre.

Stunt or Stunting may also refer to:
 * Stunted growth or stunting, a primary manifestation of malnutrition in early childhood
 * Stunt (botany), a plant disease that results in dwarfing and loss of vigor
 * Stunt (group), a British dance music act
 * Stunt (album), a 1998 album by Barenaked Ladies
 * Stunts (album), by the indie rock band Rademacher
 * Stunts (film), 1977
 * Stunts (video game), a 1990 driving video game
 * Stunt (gridiron football), an American Football defensive play
 * Stunt (sport), similar to cheerleading
 * Stunting (broadcasting), when a radio station abruptly begins broadcasting seemingly uncharacteristic programming
 * Stunt Records, a record label
 * Publicity stunt, a planned event designed to attract the public's attention to the promoters or their causes

title: Stunt (disambiguation)


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Talk:Schnitzel

Article overhauled
I have the article overhauled. There is a different usage of the word schnitzel in the german and english language. In german the word schnitzel means escalope. In english the word schnitzel stems from the term Wiener Schnitzel and means all kinds of breaded flat pieces of fried meat.--MBelzer (talk) 23:19, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Milanesa
It's not a L. American dish, it's Argentinian and Uruguayan (and it has its origin in the Nothern Italian immigrants). It was later adopted in a couple of countries for influence but it's not a typical dish there).

 * Disculpe, pero no estoy de acuerdo.. Milanesas are widely known in Mexico, and a quick google of "milanesa" turns up a recipe in Portuguese! Basically, milanesas and cotoletti alla milanese turn up about anywhere Northern Italians settled, eg: I can get real cotoletti or milanesas right here in Chicago. Uruguay and Argentina are Latin American countries (more "latin" than Mexico!) so even at that, describing it as Latin American would be correct. Tubezone 07:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

It should be noted that "Bistecca Milanese" (meaning Milanese cutlet) is the Italian version of Wiener Schnitzel, and very popular esp. in middle and northern Italy. It's pretty much the same as Wiener Schnitzel.

I made a minor correction: We do eat milanesas with ham, not jam. 201.235.92.186 (talk) 01:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Schnitzelheim: The home origin?
I read that Schnitzels have originated from a German/Austrian town known as Schnitzelheim, Does anyone know where this town is?

User:Winky Bill 21 August 2007, 02:23AM (UTC)
 * There is no article on Schnitzelheim but a redirect here. I find it unlikely, seeing that the name means 'home of the schnitzel,' unless the name was changed.  Schnitzel just means cutlet, anyway.  I'll remove it.  Reywas92 Talk 19:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Gravy
At least when I am cooking Wiener Schnitzel there is not useable gravy at all, it's only fat with burnt bread crumbs. So how do they Swedes handle this situations?!

It is actually called "Wiener Schnitzel" in german language! (the two words start both with a big written letter!) So if you want to use the correct german (language) spelling of the austrian "Wiener Schnitzel" you should move this article ("Wiener schnitzel") back to "Wiener Schnitzel") You probably see it in my partly incorrect english, that I'm not american or britain, I'm austrian. So I must know how I write the "Wiener Schnitzel" when I eat it ;-) -- 20:44, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC) Otto Normalverbraucher (my account in german wikipedia)

However, loan words always tend to conform with the grammar of the recipient language. Yes, the German is Wiener Schnitzel, but the English is more commonly Wiener schnitzel (particularly since "schnitzel" is often used alone with the "Wiener" qualification), and may even become wiener schnitzel over time. --Stemonitis 09:00, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree with what Otto Normalverbraucher says above. It's a proper noun, and as I can see from the corresponding Wikipedia article, proper nouns are spelled with capital letters.  20:12, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

at least, there comes never a gravy with a wiener schnitzel! you have it with sliced potatoes or mash and a slice of a lemon. thats all you need! and it should be battered to make it thin as possible!

Gravy? Smother the top in bechamel sauce and grated cheese and then grill it. This is known as a Parmo and is delicious!

 * Remark to the Potato salad: the link from the page leads to a general page of all the potato salads, but as my Vienna knowledge (7 years often visiting) shows just one is considered as canonical... I dont feel competent to mention a recipe though I know. There seems to be more variants and some natives should help. Sykorak (talk) 19:21, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

 * The gravy that I've seen when ordering Wiener Schnitzel is a thick brown mushroom based gravy. This however is also from North East America.  During my travels to Germany sometimes there was a gravy sometimes it was just the meat.  And though I'm not a fan of mushrooms it's usually deliscious.  However sometimes the meat is just too good to not eat by itself.

 * Grimbear13 (talk) 16:17, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Please no, no gravy on Wiener Schnitzel! That's a terrible mistake germans make, every austrian shivers in disgust when seeing a schnitzel ruined like that. What are you making it crispy for, when you just slam gravy on it? Bäh. Disgusting. And for the potato salad: Just cutted potatos, vinegar, oil and salt. Sometimes a bit mustard, sometimes cutted chive is added. 88.116.211.94 (talk) 22:09, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Cordon Bleu
Where does the Cordon Blue have its name from? --Abdull 16:25, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Not sure; the Oxford food dictionary should say. My two guesses are: from Le Cordon Bleu who may have come up with it (unlikely, it sounds a little plebian for them); or it is a "blue ribbon" dish due its richness: ham, lots of cheese, all rolled up in chicken.  Mmmm.  --Mgreenbe 19:03, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Another story: Cordon bleu was prepared for the first time at the celebration of the fastest crossing of the Atlantic ocean (1929). The price for the fastest crossing is a Blue Riband. --193.170.53.50 23:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

The main article defines a Cordon Bleu as being two slices of meat with cheese in between. A proper Cordon Bleu is a thich slice of meat, with a pocket cut into it which contains the cheese (and ham) and is then sewn or clamped before frying.. Sejtam 12:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe "Cordon Bleu" should be a separate article as it is distinctly different. Rynoski (talk) 05:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

 * I completely agree. Emika22 (talk) 10:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Schnitzel vs. Wiener Schitzel
There is some confusion in the article: Schnitzel in general simply means a slice of meat, a cutlet without bone. The Wiener Schnitzel ist just one meal made from veal schnitzel. Jägerschitzel, Cordon bleu etc. are not a kind of Wiener Schitzel but of schnitzel. de:User:Rainer Zenz12:25, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Indeed, the article should be named "Schnitzel" and types of schnitzel should redirect

I comepletely agree. I'm from Germany and the common used general term is indeed Schnitzel. Wiener Schnitzel is but a variant or a flavor if you wish. Using that as the main term and page header is like using "Super Texas Burger with extra Bacon" as header for Hamburger. --24.163.247.9 05:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Looks like we have a battle going on here between the Germans and the Osterreichers, huh? What's next, an argument over whether hot dogs are wieners or frankfurters? ;-) I side with the Germans on this one, a schnitzel's a schnitzel, like a taco is a taco or a sausage is a sausage. Wiener just means it's version typical of Wien, Vienna.Tubezone 07:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Is there any reason no one has moved to fix this? To a person who knows nothing about schnitzel this article appears to use schnitzel and wiener schnitzel interchangably. I would also wager that around the world, the more general schnitzel is more common than the Viennese variety. And I am not sure, but wouldn't "ein Wiener" just call it schnitzel?

 * Since no one has moved to fix this as yet, and the current article clearly deals with all schnitzel variants, I'm about to move the article to Schnitzel and correct the interwikis. Please discuss any further moves. Cheers, ליאור (talk) 21:05, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Israeli Cuisine?
I do not understand how this article ended up in the Israeli cuisine category. It seems to me that Israel is too far away from Europe for schitzel to have originated there. Furthermore, I know almost for certain that schnitzel is not an Israeli food. -- Tuvok  ^ Talk 23:40, 19 October 2006 (UTC) 06:49, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Israel really isn't that far fom Europe, and as far as you know, when Israel was founded, by mostly European Jews, they brought here all the European culture, furthermore, nowdays the schnitzel is a very major food in the Israel cuisine, most of the families have them, I believe this is the most loved food in Israel, and I am complete seious, therefore since it's such a major things in the Israelis life, that category should remain as it is. :D--80.230.164.111 13:23, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Give me a break... Schnitzel is very popular in Romania too. I doubt there are many Romanians that aren't more than familliar with it. I've been eating this food ocasionally for as long as I can remember; just because a certain food is popular in particular country doesn't make it a traditional food of that country. It would be like saying pizza is part of German or American cuisine (or any of a great number of countries across the world where pizza is popular and widely consumed).Giuseppe86 23:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Does that mean we should remove that category? -- Tuvok  ^ Talk 23:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I honestly think so... of course it wouldn't be a bad idea to get another opinion, maybe from someone who knows a bit more about Schnitzel.Giuseppe86 22:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * (BTW this is not related to the comment i'm replying to i just wanted to comment on a part of the page)
 * Who TF eats pasta like that like seriously WHO TaaIuI05 (talk) 21:05, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

I do not believe so, yes it is an Austrian dish, however it is a main part of Israeli cuisine and was brought to Israel by Jews coming from Europe. See falafel and shawarma, they are also part of Israeli cuisine, brought to Israel from Jews form Arab countries and from the local Arab population. I have added more information about Schnitzel in Israel to the page. Epson291 02:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

 * But I would guess that in Israeli cuisine it`s is made with turkey or chicken not with veal. And then it`s not a Wiener Schnitzel it`s only made in the same manner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.137.216 (talk) 21:31, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the first poster. First of all it should be understood that Israel, as a 62-year old country, has no cuisine. What Israel has is a menu of mostly Arab and some European foods, more or less modified by availability and price of traditional ingredients, and to some extent modified to conform with Jewish Law from the Torah concerning what Jews may eat (kashrus). Concerning this last point it should also be understood that only perhaps 10% of the Israeli population complies with Torah law concerning food, the general population does subscribe to kosher-style eating. A heavily modified "schnitzel" is common in Israel, but it is not schnitzel per se. It is really chicken cutlet or less commonly turkey cutlet. As the article states the vegetarian "schnitzel" is the most popular. Veal is all but unobtainable in Israel and beef is generally not eaten (for example, hot dogs in Israel are invariably chicken or turkey based with some beef fat only). Israel cannot be said to have originated anything with regard to schnitzel and it's questionable whether what they call schnitzel has anything in common with the real thing except (and only occasionally) outward appearance. They serve basic chicken or turkey cutlet, unmodified. Just because Israelis call it "schnitzel" doesn't mean it's not a chicken cutlet (and no Israeli has the patience to say "chicken cutlet" when they can say "schnitzel"). The vegetarian version doesn't look like schnitzel and doesn't taste like it, instead it's an oval patty like vegetarian oval patties available in much of the rest of the world. The Israeli section should be deleted. Nothing new here, despite the fact that Israelis hijacked the term and think it's their invention. The world began 62 years ago.

I should have also mentioned that mashed potatoes are all but unheard of in Israel. More likely when you get one of these chicken cutlets in a restaurant you'll have your choice of Arab-style salads. At a wedding or bar mitzvah rice or small broiled potatoes are served alongside. The vegetable version of the faux schnitzel is not served at restaurants, but is widely available in grocery stores.

I've had real schnitzel in German restaurants and I have German friends, and it's unanimous that schnitzel is made from veal. Bottom line and as someone who lives in Israel but was not born there, I can't say this strongly enough: there is no schnitzel at all in Israel. 87.70.121.58 (talk) 19:13, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

 * As a matter of interest: Why is beef generally not eaten in Israel, and veal all but unattainable? It's not pork (though a very common, and rather faithful imiation of the Wiener Schnitzel - which however good an imitation it is is not the original - does use pork); milk is not used for the breading, and the traditional Butterschmalz used for the frying can very easily be replaced with other fats; and there's no noticeable Hinduism in Israel to my knowledge.--138.245.1.1 (talk) 15:10, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Beef and Veal are used in schitzel, but not as commonly as chicken and turkey, for more info watch the video made by the Israeli Public Broadcasting Corporation 77.127.77.242 (talk) 08:52, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Winston Churchill
Once I read in a magazine that Churchill's favorite food was schnitzel. But he kept it as a secret because it is too German. Anybody out there who knows details?

In fact its not german. so no problem there :P

Start classification
This article has been classified as a start. Its importance is mid as assessed by the person from WikiProject Food and Drink. Capitalistroadster 06:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

It's always beef!
Wiener Schnitzel made from pork or something is not Wiener Schnitzel. Ask any Austrian or Bavarian. That reference really needs to be removed.

 * Yes, it`s veal to be exact. And I dont understand why it`s linked to jewish cuisine, since when are combinations of egg, milk and meat kosher?

 * i will actually argue this, growing up in Bavaria, it was always made of pork when i had it. veal is what the rich people had, the rest of us had pork.  Stregamama (talk) 02:48, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

 * Nö, it is by definied by law: a "Wiener Schnitzel" must be veal, the one from pork is "Schnitzel Wiener Art". 195.50.183.202 (talk) 07:10, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll supply a (german) reference: 195.50.183.202 (talk) 08:50, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Cleanup
I have indulged in a little cleanup, however the article could still need some good sources. Hopefully someone will provide them. --Catgut (talk) 10:28, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I have also eliminated the template referring to WikiProject Germany as there is no connection between the article's topic and/or content and Germany. Obviously some case of misunderstanding. Equally unclear is the reason for the template referring to WikiProjekt Judaism, though the article cites an Israeli variant of the Wiener schnitzel. But there are several national variants, and the talk page would get quite long if every national WikiProject put a template on it. I'll wait and see, and if there is no objection I'll also remove the other template. --Catgut (talk) 15:54, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The Judaism template can be removed; it is unlikely that Jews really associate themselves with Wiener Schnitzel. Matzo or Latkes, but not schnitzel.  However, the category in the article for German Cuisine should be kept, as it is obviously very popular in Germany, even if it came from Austria.  I do think the Israeli cuisione cat should be removed, though.  People rarely associate schnitzel with Israel.   Reywas92 Talk  22:06, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for commenting on the issue. For sure Wiener schnitzel is popular in Germany. I mean it's obviously popular all over the world. That doesn't mean it's German cuisine. There is a lot of food that's popular in Germany, let's say hamburgers and hot dogs and all kinds of pasta. You wouldn't call that German cuisine, would you? Anyway, there is no logical explanation why Wiener schnitzel should belong to German cuisine. And no source. I even researched German wikipedia, and their article on Wiener schnitzel clearly states that it is Oesterreichische Kueche, Wiener Kueche (Austrian cuisine, Viennese cuisine). I guess one can trust them. Let's stick to the facts. Concerning the Judaism template I share your opinion. I can't see Wiener schnitzel being part of typically Jewish cuisine or Jewish culture in general. There is no source for that either. --Catgut (talk) 22:31, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Wiener Schitzel might not be German Cuisine, Schnitzel. is —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.58.159.248 (talk) 17:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Tenderized with a Mallet
How come this article doesn't mention that the meat is often tenderized with a mallet? I'm a Hungarian from Romania, so maybe it's specific to my family, but we make this from Pork or Veal, and the meat is always tenderized with a mallet first, no matter the tenderness of the original meat. It isn't thin because it's cut that way, it's thin because it's been beaten thin. I actually don't like the fibrous texture of "steaks" because of this. I'm used to tenderized meat. Also in my family we use a three step process for all breading: 1. flour 2. egg 3. breadcrumbs (plain). Maybe that's ordinary, but I've seen other instructions for this, so I mention it. Hope that helps a bit. --22:34, 27 December 2008 (UTC)~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.161.218.60 (talk)
 * This is very true, because in Mexico we make it exactly the same way, and for the same reasons: I remember my mother pounding the meat and how thin it was after the pounding. Then came the eggs and breadcrumbs (maybe flour, too, I'm not sure. There was salt and pepper in the beaten eggs, also). The fact that it is made the same way in such different countries as Hungary and Mexico means that that is probably the original way it was made and should be included in the article after further confirmation and a source found.

Schnitzel in Germany
I just corrected the part "Germany". Who the hell wrote, that we have "Schnitzel am Spieß" (on a stick)? I've never seen such a thing, and I've been living here for 27 years. By the way: Wiener Schnitzel is not the same as a common 'Schnitzel', but just a way of making it. Other types are shown in the section of the same name; most types are common German cuisine. --- Also, the correct phrase for Wiener Schnitzel in the German language is not Viennese Schnitzel. Never heard it, I'm German, I approve "Wiener Schnitzel". :)

 * You eat deer with cranberry sauce but Schnitzel? Even asked my Mother who made her vocational education in a delicatessen store - she never heard about it either. Is there a source that it's common anywhere in Germany? I live far in the west so it could be common in e.g. Bavaria -- 85.146.52.115 (talk) 16:18, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

 * As a born Austrian I have to admit that its a tradition in my family to serve Schnitzel with cranberry-jam (ie Preiselbeeren), though its not the authentic way in Austria to do so. Just for the protocol. -- 178.113.142.139 (talk) 22:31, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Cotoletta alla milanese
I've been reading some professional food journals and although they cite this dish as a very speculative possiblity to have influenced/inspired Weiner Schnitzel all are quick to point out that there is no verifiable information to substatiate this. Does anyone have any referancable work that can substantiate this? If not, I don't believe it belongs in the the body of this article as a fact (needing citations to support it) or it needs to be clarified as a specualtive statment. Even the best food historians I could find can weight this akin to foklore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.238.13.242 (talk) 00:44, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

 * In short, it was made up. A guy named Heinz Dieter Pohl proved that the story of Radetzky was invented 1969 for an Italian Gastro-Guide (Guida gastronomica d'Italia), that was also printed in German Language 1971. Its the oldest source that can be found mentioning the story about the Costoletta Milanese and that Radetzky brought it to Austria as Wiener Schnitzel. Further proof is that in Austrian Cuisine its typical to keep the names of imported dishes, and that before the Schnitzel gained popularity there allready was a dish called Wiener Backhendl, pieces of chicken that are prepared in a similar way like the Wiener Schnitzel.-- 178.113.142.139 (talk) 22:24, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Pronunciation guide would be good to add
I'm just curious, does anyone know of people of any nationality besides Australians who pronounce this "snitzel"? i.e. dropping the 'h' --Tyranny Sue (talk) 11:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Capitalization
Shouldn't it be "wiener schnitzel" (article name "Wiener schnitzel"), not "Wiener Schnitzel"? Apparently, in Germany the term is usually capitalized but in English (per online dictionaries), usually not. - Wikidemon (talk) 16:41, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Hamburger Schnitzel
Is that the de:Pariser Schnitzel (Paris-style Schnitzel) in Austria and France?--Carski (talk) 10:57, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

one messed-up lemma
As stated above under Talk:Wiener_Schnitzel, this article is pretty messed up, summing up all kinds of Schnitzels, even Chickenschnitzel (argh!) under the very particular Wiener Schnitzel. To work this out would be quite an undertaking. -- Seelefant (talk) 20:44, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Gordon bleu
Gordon bleu was invented in Switzerland and not in France!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.90.207.2 (talk) 05:06, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

 * It fits my picture of the Swiss that they apparently like to eat Gordon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.54.154.163 (talk) 11:42, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Fixing it
This article duplicates Wiener schnitzel which is not only wasteful, it's inappropriate, as has been observed before. The word just means "cutlet" -- you can get beef, pork, veal, chicken, turkey, and it can be Wiener Art, Jaegerschitzel, Naturschnitzel, Zuerich style -- etc. DavidOaks (talk) 19:37, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * oops, my oversight -- but the error remains. As has been observed, "Schnitzel" is a German word meaning simply and literally "cutlet," morphem for morpheme. The content currently on this page belongs under "Wiener Schnitzel," which should be a page, not a redirect. And here, if there's a page at all, should be the following, and nothing but:

Schnitzel is a German word equivalent to "cutlet" -- a thin, boneless steak suitable for a single serving.

The only way I (with my limited wikiskills) know to do this is a cut-&-paste operation, but that would really mess up the history and the talk page, I think. Anybody else who's watching know how? What's here is as unacceptable as naming a page "steak" and discussing exclusively the bacon-wrapped filet mignon. DavidOaks (talk) 20:19, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Manatee Schnitzel, Reason for Removing
A Google search for "manatee schnitzel" finds no hits other than those that seem derived from this article, I believe this is a prank edit. No source is cited.

''Manatee Schnitzel: served with dark mushroom sauce. (often served at the Yale Club)''

Diderot08 (talk) 04:29, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Sound of Music?
Is schnitzel ever served or eaten with noodles? 157.139.9.155 (talk) 14:49, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

 * Thread necromancy. I have an Austrian friend who swears nobody would ever do such a thing. But Spätzle are a type of noodle (more of a dumpling), and are served with Schnitzel, so its a reasonable lyric imo. Gaijin42 (talk) 17:57, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

American variant of Weiner Scnitzel
Chicken fried steak is another American variant of Weiner Schnitzel. It is popular in the south central and southwestern regions of the country. Chicken fried steak is made from round steak that has been pounded thin with a texturizing mallet. Once texturized, the meat is then coated with flour and then dipped in an egg/milk wash followed by another coat of flour which is often seasoned and mixed with cracker crumbs much like fried chicken, hence the name. Once breaded, the meat is panfried. Chicken fried steak is often served with thinly sliced pan fried potatoes, mashed potatoes or French fries. Often a gravy known as "cream gravy" is served with this meal. Cream gravy is made from the pan drippings, whole milk, salt, pepper and flour. Chicken fried steak is popular at all meals, even as a breakfast meat with eggs. For the midday or evening meal, chicken fried steak is sometimes eaten in sandwich form. Prepared this way, a hamburger bun is spread with mayonnaise and then the chicken fried steak is placed inside the bun along with lettuce, onion and sliced tomato.98.248.6.253 (talk) 21:55, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Vegetarian schnitzel variant?
I don't believe "vegetarian schnitzel" should be listed under the variants heading. The other variants are all related in that they are ways of preparing schnitzel - a fried pounded-out cutlet of meat (per the definition). Using a meat substitute would not result in a type of schnitzel at all, but rather an imitation of schnitzel. This practice might be noted elsewhere in the article, but not under the variants of schnitzel heading. In the same vein, we do not list breaded fried flounder as fish schnitzel or "schnitzel-of-the-sea", because it is not made of meat.

Does it have to be breaded and hammered?
Here in Germany, a schnitzel is not always breaded, nor always (or even most of the time) hammered for tenderness. In fact, at least among the people I know, hammering meat is considered either an old-fashioned or a Russian custom, and is considered ruining the meat. Are these two things really part of the definition of what should count as a schnitzel in the English language? -- 92.226.93.154 (talk) 00:37, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. I did Google searches for 'schnizel recipe' and 'schnitzel rezept', as well as image searches, and it seems quite clear that schnitzel is both breaded and hammered. Reywas92 Talk 02:07, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No. There are different terms of usage of the word schnitzel in german and englisch speaking countries. The german word schnitzel means escalope in english. The english term schnitzel means breaded flat meat.--MBelzer (talk) 23:13, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The original Wiener Schnitzel is hammered and breaded. The english terms schnitzel means breaded flat pieces of fried meat in general.--MBelzer (talk) 23:13, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Disputing the Australia section
The paragraph on schnitzels in Australia contains a number of statements that are highly disputable.

 * It gives the impression that chicken schnitzel is significantly more common than veal schnitzel. This is untrue. Both are very popular dishes, and it is probably best to avoid giving the impression that either one is more common than the other. (If pressed, I would add that veal schnitzel is the more traditional dish whereas chicken schnitzel has increased in popularity more recently, but there is no need to go into that much detail.)

 * It treats schnitzel and parmigiana as distinct dishes, and gives the impression both are usually chicken. In fact, "parmigiana" is short for "schnitzel parmigiana", and "chicken parmigiana" is short for "chicken schnitzel parmigiana". If you ask for a parmigiana or a schnitzel parmigiana in Australia, you will get a veal (not chicken) one by default.

 * It states that a parmigiana is topped with "Italian tomato sauce, ham and mozzarella". This should read, "Italian tomato sauce, mozzarella, and sometimes ham", because there is not usually any ham. (I would also add that when it is a home-cooked meal, sliced tomatos are usually used in place of the Italian tomato sauce.)

 * It states that as a home-cooked meal, schnitzel is "generally accompanied by boiled, mashed or fried potatoes". This is unsupportable and should be deleted. Of course potatoes are a common accompaniment, as are vegetables, but the same is true of any meat dish, such as steak. There is no evidence of home-cooked schnitzel having any particular traditional accompaniment.

For the record, I live in South Australia. It is possible that this dispute is explained (at least in part) by differences between the states.

118.210.110.136 (talk) 15:51, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

 * Curious. Must vary a lot regionally. A butcher said that Australians, unlike Kiwi's, don't do wienerschnitzel.

 * I'd disagree with your fourth point. While there may not be a traditional accompaniment potatoes are the standard vegetable accompanying things. Steak is a bit different - chips or even eggs without vegetables may be the accompaniment. 114.35.25.165 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:14, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Clarification please
Let me see if I have this right: In Germany, schnitzel is almost always pork, but by law, "Wiener schnitzel" must be veal. However, recently it has come to mean any breaded steak[see below]. The steak wiki says "steak", without qualification, refers to beefsteak. So, in Germany, "Wiener schnitzel" by law must be veal, regular "schnitzel" is usually pork, but also [informally?] means any breaded beefsteak (which excludes pork and technically veal because beef and veal are not synonymous per veal wiki). So it could be pork, could be beef, could be veal.

As noted on the Wiener Schnitzel page: The Verwaltungsgericht Arnsberg 2009 decided about the acceptability of the latter name [Wiener Schnitzel vom Schwein]. The result was that in common parlance in Germany, a "Wiener Schnitzel" no more referred exclusively to a veal dish, but instead to a breaded steak in general.

Sorry I don't have proper I'm on my ipad.

Markalankennedy (talk) 17:52, 2 November 2013 (UTC)mark 11/2/2013

Merger proposal
Piccata is a stub and as described, defines a meal within the boundaries of the general schnitzel page. Because this article is separated there is no entry for Italy on this page under countries and piccata remains a small note on the bottom. Only reason to keep this separate would be if wikiproject Italy was intending to substantially expand information beyond it's current form (which could easily fit on the general page) and fix references. Secondlastmanalive (talk) 21:19, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Relevance
All information seems to be relevant to the topic. Cmglaser47 (talk) 16:42, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

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Move Egypt into Middle East?
Both culturally and geographically it seems preferable to do this. Although Egypt technically is on the African continent, I'm not sure it should be listed in that category. Thoughts? GoldbergAdam (talk) 09:05, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

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