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Embryo space colonization

Embryo space colonization is a theoretical interstellar space colonization concept that involves sending a robotic mission to a habitable terrestrial planet, dwarf planet, minor planet or natural satellite transporting frozen early-stage human embryos or the technological or biological means to create human embryos. The proposal circumvents the most severe technological problems of other mainstream interstellar colonization concepts. In contrast to the sleeper ship proposal, it does not require the more technically challenging 'freezing' of fully developed humans (see cryonics).

Various concepts
Embryo space colonization concepts involve various concepts of delivering the embryos from Earth to an extrasolar planet around another star system.
 * The most straightforward concept is to make use of embryo cryopreservation. Modern medicine has made it possible to store frozen embryos in various low-development stages (up to several weeks into the development of the embryo).
 * The technologically more challenging but more flexible scenario calls for just carrying the biological means to create embryos, that is various samples of donated sperm and egg cells.
 * Self replicating machines could spread out to interstellar space, bring uploaded human minds with them and/or receive them via radio or laser transmission and build artificial electronic brains/bodies as needed. The uploaded humans can raise the children.

Mission at target planet
Regardless of the cargo used in any embryo space colonization scenario, the basic concept is that upon arrival of the embryo-carrying spacecraft (EIS) at the target planet, fully autonomous robots would build the first settlement on the planet and start growing food. More ambitiously, the planet may be terraformed first. Thereafter the first embryos could be unfrozen (or created using biosequenced or natural sperm and egg cells as outlined above).

In any event, one of the technologies needed for the proposal are artificial uteri. The embryos would need to develop in such artificial uteri until a large enough population existed to procreate by natural biological means.

Comparison to other interstellar colonization concepts

 * Proposals of sleeper ships and generation ships require very large spacecraft to transport humans, life support systems and other equipment or food as well as an even larger propulsion system for a long period in time. Even optimistic proposals would require such a major effort for such ships that the resources required on Earth would involve a large part of humankind devoted to the mission or would even exceed available resources. In contrast, an EIS would have feasible small dimensions in the range of today's spacecraft, as the most important "cargo" would not need much space or weigh very much.
 * Sleeper ship proposals call for freezing adult humans. While there is research into hibernation, the complexity of a living fully developed human body may make the sleeper ship proposals much more difficult.
 * While sleeper ships and generation ships would deliver to a prospective colony world a population that has undergone some degree of education, training, and socialization in areas reconcilable with those of the sponsor culture (e.g. historical, scientific, and technical education, language acquisition, an understanding of the original mission and broader cultural norms), individuals who are born into colony worlds through embryo space colonization would initially lack this education.

Difficulties in implementing the concept

Like every proposal for interstellar colonization, embryo space colonization depends on solutions to still-unsolved technological problems. Some of these are:
 * Robotics: Whether it will be possible to develop fully autonomous robots that can build the first settlement on the target planet and raise the first humans, is unclear. Because the initial probe must be maximally compact, the industrial robots that build the habitat would themselves have to be built autonomously from local materials. Though such technology does not yet exist, there are strong economic incentives to develop it, which are unrelated to space colonization.
 * Artificial Intelligence: It would be challenging to create an artificial intelligence that could serve as an adequate artificial parent and successfully raise human children who have no contact with other human beings. Its design would have to include strategies for the transmission of terrestrial culture and language, as well as the prerequisites for healthy psychological functioning, to persons who cannot interact with Earth.
 * Artificial uterus: Artificial wombs exist today but they are not available for full-term development of fetuses. Human embryos have been successfully grown in artificial uteri for 13 days. There is a 14-day rule, codified into law in twelve countries, preventing human embryos from being kept in artificial uteri past 14 days.
 * Long-duration computers: Computer hardware would need to function reliably over long periods of time, in the range of several thousands of years.
 * Propulsion: Furthermore, a propulsion system would be required that could accelerate the EIS to a high speed and slow it down again upon nearing the destination. Even assuming a speed one hundred times faster than any of today's space probes and a target planet within a couple of hundred light years would lead to a journey lasting several thousands of years.
 * Exoplanet found: Finally this depends on the existence of an exoplanet qualifying for colonization within a reachable distance. Current or future science missions like the Hubble, James Webb, or TESS space telescopes may very well yield results for this requirement in the near future.

Further unknowns that affect the feasibility of embryo space colonization are:

 * Biological: Will genetic material survive intact on a space mission that could potentially last centuries? Exposure to cosmic rays is known to irreparably damage DNA. What other symbiotic lifeforms does a human need to live a healthy life? For example, gut flora and many other species of microorganisms may be necessary for proper biological and immunological functioning. Babies normally acquire these from their mothers and the wider environment, but this would not be the case for embryos in colonization ships.
 * Ethical: In addition to the question of whether it is technically feasible to raise children without human contact, there is the further question of whether this is morally permissible. It is found to be unethical to deliberately create children that will grow up without parents, yet embryo space colonization requires this. Controversial value judgments would also need to be made about whose DNA should be the basis of the space colony. Should they be selected by some metric of merit, or randomly from the general population? Either choice presents ethical problems. Should the parenting AI firmly steer the children to maximize the chances of the colony's success, or should it accept the risk of allowing them significant autonomy? Which languages and cultural values should be transmitted to the colonists? Should they be raised according to some value system that exists on Earth, or create one that is somehow optimized? Are there truths that should be kept from them? The possibility of a new civilization that starts without a cultural legacy might appeal to cults that want their values to become a norm for an entire society. Is it permissible to allow them have their own embryo colonies, where the AI indoctrinates the colonists only in the cult's value system? The difficulty of answering these and other ethical questions may become a non-technological obstacle to embryo space colonization.

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KBC Bank Ireland

KBC Bank Ireland plc was a bank in Ireland with offices in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway, Waterford and Belfast.

It was established in 1972 as Irish Intercontinental Bank. In 1978 KBC Bank, which is headquartered in Brussels, acquired a 75% interest. KBC Bank acquired a full 100% shareholding in IIB in 1999, and in 2000 the bank's name changed to IIB Bank. On 27 October 2008, the 30th anniversary of KBC's majority ownership, the bank was renamed KBC Bank Ireland plc.

KBC Bank Ireland provided a wide range of banking services including Corporate, Commercial and Business Banking, Private Banking and Treasury & Capital Markets. Its mortgage division, KBC Homeloans, was a leading mortgage provider in Ireland.

KBC began operating a branch network in 2012 with a further build-out in 2014. This followed the exit of Halifax Ireland and Danske Bank from the Irish retail market, with some branches being located in former locations of those banks.

KBC initiated a high-profile property repossession in Strokestown, in County Roscommon in December 2018. Following this, there was a violent attack by a gang of masked men on the team employed by KBC to occupy the house.

In April 2021, KBC entered into talks with Bank of Ireland to sell its performing loan book and announced its intention to withdraw from Ireland.

KBC in Ireland
KBC had 1000+ employees in Ireland in the following companies:

 * KBC Bank Ireland plc
 * KBC Fund Management

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Remise (fencing)

The remise is a renewal of an attack in fencing. It is performed when one fencer's attack has failed, either because their opponent has parried or they missed. If the attacker immediately continues their attack in the same line, they have executed a remise. The name also is applied to repetitions of other actions which did not initially succeed (remise of the riposte, for example, is a riposte that initially missed but hit in a continuation). The remise is at the bottom of actions in taking priority.

The remise is important in sabre because of two elements: first, that an attack is over when the front foot lands in the lunge. (In theory, all attacks end in a lunge or flèche, and the fleche is forbidden in sabre.) Therefore, if the attacker's front foot lands before their blade hits their opponent, their action is automatically a remise. Also, because any contact between a blade and the opponent's target area will set off the scoring apparatus, many fencers whose attack has failed will keep their arm extended or make a quick second cut to attempt to catch their opponent's arm during their riposte.

In foil, the remise gained some prominence after changes to the electronic scoring apparatus in 2004. The blocking time after registering a hit was reduced from 0.75 seconds to 0.25 seconds, so a fast remise can 'time out' a slow riposte. The contact time required to score a hit was also increased to 15 milliseconds to make flick hits less likely to register. It has been observed that, after these changes, some straight hits are not registered by the apparatus. Thus, a pair of foil fencers may, upon finding their thrust have not landed, remain in a lunge position and repeatedly remise hoping to be the first one to score a touch.

The remise also has a place as a stop-hit, in which a defender (or in this case unsuccessful attacker) hits their opponent one period of "fencing time" before their opponent's attack or riposte arrives. The judgement of "fencing time" is extremely subjective and up to the referee.

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Christian Tumi

Christian Wiyghan Tumi (15 October 1930 – 3 April 2021) was a Cameroonian prelate of the Catholic Church who was archbishop of Douala from 1991 to 2009. He was bishop of Yagoua from 1980 to 1982. After serving as coadjutor bishop of Garoua beginning in 1982, he was bishop there from 1984 to 1991. He was made a cardinal 1988. Tumi was the first and so far the only cardinal from Cameroon.

Early life and ordination
Born on 15 October 1930 in Kikaikelaki, a small village near Kumbo, in the Nso clan of the Northwest Region of Cameroon, Tumi studied at local seminaries in Cameroon and Nigeria. He trained as a teacher in Nigeria and London, then earned a licentiate in theology in the Catholic University of Lyon and a doctorate in philosophy at the University of Fribourg, Switzerland. He was ordained a priest of the Diocese of Buéa on 17 April 1966, and then served as a Vicar in Soppo for a year before becoming a professor at Bishop Rogan College's seminary. After studying abroad from 1969 to 1973, he returned to his diocese and was named rector of the seminary in Bambui.

Bishop and cardinal
On 6 December 1979, Tumi was appointed the first bishop of the Diocese of Yagoua. He received his episcopal consecration on 6 January 1980 from Pope John Paul II. On 19 November 1982 he was named archbishop coadjutor of Garoua and he succeeded as archbishop there when his predecessor's resignation was accepted on 17 March 1984.

In 1982 he was elected vice president of the National Episcopal Conference of Cameroon and in 1985 its president, a post he held until 1991.

Pope John Paul II made him a cardinal on 28 June 1988, assigning him as Cardinal-Priest the title of Santi Martiri dell'Uganda a Poggio Ameno on 28 June 1988. On 6 July 1991 he was named a member of the Pontifical Council for Dialogue with Non-Believers. Tumi was named the Archbishop of Douala on 31 August 1991. He was one of the cardinal electors who participated in the 2005 papal conclave that elected Pope Benedict XVI.

Tumi was critical of the government's attempt to suppress Anglophone culture in Cameroon and advocated a federation to allow the Francophone and Anglophone regions to coexist in Cameroon.

In 2009, Tumi led thousands in a march in Douala to protest Cameroon's endorsement of the Maputo Protocol, a women's rights charter promoted by the African Union. Critics of the document believe it will ease restrictions on abortion and promote homosexuality. In a 2007 sermon he denounced child sexual abuse as a scandal and the shame of contemporary society. In 2005, Tumi told an interviewer that the use of condoms as protection against AIDS within marriage "makes sense", though he doubted the Church's prohibition on their use would change. Tumi was kidnapped on 5 November 2020, and released unharmed on 6 November 2020; his captors released video footage of their interrogation of Tumi.

Death
Tumi died in a hospital in Douala on 3 April 2021 in the early hours following an illness. After a video of his corpse in the hospital bed was released on the Internet; authorities denounced it as a violation of privacy and ordered an investigation.

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Battle of Carabobo

The Battle of Carabobo, on 24 June 1821, was fought between independence fighters, led by Venezuelan General Simón Bolívar, and the Royalist forces, led by Spanish Field Marshal Miguel de la Torre. Bolívar's decisive victory at Carabobo led to the independence of Venezuela and establishment of the Republic of Gran Colombia.

Before the battle
There were several events that led to the Battle of Carabobo. Francisco de Miranda, famed patriot that tried to free many Latin American countries alongside Simón Bolívar, had taken control of Caracas from 1810 to 1812. The Spanish took back control and Miranda was handed to the royalists because Bolívar, in one of the most questionable decisions of his life, believed him to be a traitor. Bolívar then fled from Venezuela, after which he organized the Admirable Campaign in 1813 and re-established the Second Republic of Venezuela. Bolívar would lose Venezuela again in 1814 and he would re-establish the Venezuelan Republic one more time before uniting with the New Granada to form the Gran Colombia union.

By 1818 the Third Republic of Venezuela had been established with the task of liberating the entirety of Venezuela. Bolivar aimed to liberate Colombia, with the goal of establishing a new country Gran Colombia (a region consisting of what we know today as Colombia, Ecuador, Panama, and Venezuela). The Republic of Colombia was formed in 1819, with Bolívar as president. Once Colombia established independence, Bolivar moved on to liberate Venezuela.

In 1820, an armistice was made between the Spanish, under General Pablo Morillo, and the Patriots, under Bolívar. During the years after he fled from Venezuela, Bolívar spent a lot of time regrouping his forces. He stationed his men on Lake Maracaibo, an area that was occupied by the loyalists. Bolívar had numerical superiority over the loyalists but it would still be a challenge.

The battle

The Royalists occupied the road leading from Valencia to Puerto Cabello. As Bolívar's force of 6,500 or 8,000 (which included 340 or 350 men of the British Rangers battalion, the great majority of them of Anglophone origin of the so-called "British Legions") approached the Royalist position, Bolívar divided his force and sent half on a flanking maneuver through rough terrain and dense foliage. Bolívar led the attack through the center while Gen. José Antonio Páez went around to the right flank. But before they could do it, the two Spanish field guns fired on the lines.

Gen. Miguel de la Torre, commander of the Spanish, also split his force and sent half to deal with this flank attack. Hitting the Patriots, led by the Apure Braves Battalion, with musket fire, the Royalists initially held back the assault. Though the Venezuelan infantry failed in their attack and retreated, the men of the British battalion, commanded by Colonel Thomas Ilderton Ferrier and including many former members of the famed King's German Legion, fought hard and eventually succeeded in taking the hills. Though greatly outnumbered and low on supplies, the legion soldiers managed to maintain control of the tactically critical hills. By the battle's end, the legionary force had suffered 119 deaths, of which 11 were officers. Col. Ferrier was among the dead. Bolívar later praised the Legion troops and called them the "Saviors of my Fatherland", noting that they had distinguished themselves among other armies.

As the Legion gained the top, the Apure Braves and 2 companies of the Tirailleurs Battalion (2nd Division) reinforced them, and pushed the enemy off, just as Pedro Camejo, lance in hand, was trying to rally the formations, only to be killed due to two shots to the chest from enemy gunfire, in front of General Páez. Páez, watching him in retreat, told him that he was a coward, to which, with his dying breath, Camejo responded: ''No, I am not! My general, I have to tell you goodbye, because now I am dead!'' The cavalry militia of royalist "Llanero" fled from battlefield as the Patriot infantry fought hard, and the patriot cavalry led by Colonel Munoz eventually broke through the Royalist lines on the center, and marched towards the rear of de La Torre's force. The Spanish infantry formed squares and fought to the end under the attack of the Patriot cavalry, but one battalion retreated in the face of the enemy. The rout was so bad that only some 400 of one infantry regiment managed to reach safety at Puerto Cabello. With the main Royalist force in Venezuela crushed, independence was ensured. Subsequent battles included a key naval victory for the independence forces on 24 July 1823 at the Battle of Lake Maracaibo and in November 1823 José Antonio Páez occupied Puerto Cabello, the last Royalist stronghold in Venezuela.

The victory was a hard-won one for the independence forces. Both Ambrosio Plaza and Manuel Cedeño, commanders of the 2nd and 3rd Divisions, were killed in the battle by the enemy.

Commemoration
24 June is celebrated as Battle of Carabobo Day. This day is also called "Army Day" in Venezuela.

Every year during the month of June; the 24th specifically, honors the most important battle of the Venezuelan War of Independence and the largest battle of that war that finally secured national independence after years of war against Spain. It is a national celebration that is televised and streamed on the Internet. It lasts all day with a military parade of the Venezuelan Army, showing to public all armaments, tanks, battalions, weapons, etc. of the ground forces, as the main highlight, during the midday hours.

This military parade doesn't have any sponsorship except by the government and the Army. It's the largest military parade in the country after the celebration of the birth of General Simón Bolívar on 24 July 1783 (Navy Day) and the annual Independence Day parades of 5 July yearly.

Also held is a joint historical reenactment organized by the Carabobo State Government, the Ministry of Defense, the National Armed Forces, and the Ministry of Education on the very site of the battle in the morning, joined in by elementary and middle school students. The 2015 event was held for the first time on the Sunday nearest the anniversary, 21 June.

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Champagne Airlines

Champagne Airlines was an airline based in Reims, France. It was established in 1998 and operated air-taxi, executive services, and scheduled services. Its main base was Reims Airport (RHE), with hubs at Le Havre Octeville Airport and Paris - Le Bourget Airport. Heli-Champagne, its sister company, provided helicopter transport services.

In November 2005, authorization to operate air services was withdrawn following bankruptcy.

Code data

 * ICAO Code: CPH
 * Callsign: Champagne

Destinations
In July 2005, it was clear that the company was in debt and had a serious shortage of cash. In October 2005, Champagne Airlines gave up its only scheduled route between Le Havre and Toulouse. On 29 November 2005 the Direction Générale de l'Aviation Civile (DGAC) withdrew authorization for Champagne Airlines to operate air services following its bankruptcy.

Fleet
In July 2005, the Champagne Airlines fleet consisted of the following aircraft:

 * 2 Beechcraft King Air FGIML and FBXON
 * 3 Fairchild Metro III FGTRB, FGPSN and FGJPN
 * 1 Cessna Citation II FHACA

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Talk:George Moscone

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There is no discussion about this article, and the controversy is not apparent from the edits. I removed the NPOV tag. The article needs some editing for structure, but I don't see anything contentious. If things are otherwise, feel free to explain. --Leifern 23:18, 2005 Apr 15 (UTC)

Feinstein?
Why does this article claim Feinstein was "allegedly unwitting" in regards to the murders. Also why is it that Feinstein's credibility is placed into question? "who claims that she attempted to resuscitate the mortally wounded Milk to no avail." This seems like thinly veiled anti-Feinstein commentary in a place where it shouldn't be.

I agree, this article has some strong anti-Feinstein commentary that would mislead anyone who doesn't know that Feinstein wasn't party to the assasination or that she tried to save Milk and later introduced the anti assault weapons bill partly because of this.

"...so-called Peoples Temple"
I took out "so-called" as needless and not objective. It implies that the name Peoples Temple was somehow not genuine, or not fitting. The former is simply wrong -- Peoples Temple was, in fact, the organization's name (leaving aside apostrophal quibbles). The latter is an opinion, and an opinion with condemnatory overtones, implying trickery. Neutral point of view demands that the facts be let speak for themselves as to whether the Peoples Temple lived up to its name. Lonewolf BC 22:09, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Added a Jones/Peoples Temple Section
I was really surprised to find this essentially out of the article until I added it. It was one of the defining and most controversial things of Moscone's career, and his main concern (by far) at the time of his death, with allegations about his connections with Jones swarming on the massive Jonestown tragedy that had taken over America's attention in November 1978 much like 9-11 did in 2001. Having just begun to get over the tragedy, the media had begun to seriously dig into Jones' San Francisco connections and, at the time of Moscone's death, he had already begun having to fend off massive media inquiry into his appointment of Jones. Mosedschurte (talk) 08:04, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

 * I centralised the material from this and the willie brown article into the People's temple article, under public support. It's a weight and relevance concern in these two articles, because it is unduly long and out of proportion to the politicians' legacies.  Jones had widespread public support from lots of politicians.  It's more useful to look at the phenomenon than to add it to the bio of the various politicians involved. Wikidemo (talk) 02:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Please stop arbitrarily deleting entire sections.  As it stands now, you have actually deleted the section on the man potentially responsible for Moscone's 1975 election victory (per just about every source that has written on the issue) and San Francisco's "9-11", the Jonestown tragedy.
 * Note that I actually had actually cut this section down far below what it could be, and just hit the high points of support that were coming under extreme fire just before Moscone's death. Mosedschurte (talk) 03:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

 * I just cut down the section and moved it to a subsection of the prior section. Hopefully, this will address any "weight" concerns within the article.  The idea of "relevance" concerns is, frankly, odd given the subject, its huge weight and the actual events. Mosedschurte (talk) 03:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me. Wikidemo (talk) 06:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I fixed the internal link (article name changed a while back), added a sentence clarifying the actual work done and added a sentence citing the NYT on later revelations to the paper regarding that actual work in the section below.Mosedschurte (talk) 05:37, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Lack of Sources
This article appears to need a lot of development work in other areas. There are also very few sources cited except in a few areas where people have added information. Much of it may have been originally copied from another source. I added a few. Mosedschurte (talk) 04:47, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Associate at Law Firm During Political Career
I'm in the process of reviewing historical documents as I prepare an article on the California firm currently known as Hanson Bridgett LLP. Among the documents are timesheets for George Moscone dated 1969 through 1973. His title is given as Associate. I'm trying to work out how this four-year period fits with the dates given of his time in the state senate and election as mayor. One of the long-time partners at this firm (John Vlahos) confirmed that Moscone was an associate here, but was under the impression that he left the firm at the time he became mayor. Textheavy (talk) 00:17, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

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a little trim
In the section on his tenure as state senator, I took out the phrase "as a heterosexual" in the sentence about his being "ahead of his time" on gay rights. It seemed superfluous when the article says he was married with children.Browntable (talk) 19:42, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

This paragraph on Robert Arneson
"n 1980, sculptor Robert Arneson was commissioned to create a monument to Moscone to be installed in the new Moscone Convention Center. The bust portraying Moscone was done in Arneson's expressionistic style and was accepted by San Francisco's Art Commission. Arneson included as part of the decoration on the pedestal the likeness of a pistol that gained public disapproval. At issue were references to Harvey Milk, the assassinations, the "Twinkie Defense", the White Night riots, and Dianne Feinstein's mayoral succession. Arneson refused to make alterations to the work, the commission was returned to him, and it was later resold. In a critique of the event, Frederic Stout wrote that "Arneson's mistake was in presenting the city mothers/fathers with something honest, engaging and provoking, that is to say, a work of art. What they wanted, of course, was not a work of art at all. They wanted an object of ritual magic: the smiling head of a dead politician." In 1994, a new bust by San Francisco artist Spero Anargyros was unveiled, depicting Moscone holding a pen, below which are words from Moscone: "San Francisco is an extraordinary city, because its people have learned to live together with one another, to respect each other, and to work with each other for the future of their community. That's the strength and beauty of this city – it's the reason why the citizens who live here are the luckiest people in the world."

Arneson was not an "expressionist", but rather, a humorist in the California funk style. Arneson did not make a "mistake." He did exactly what any Art professional might have expected. Shawnkielty (talk) 10:20, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

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Buurgplaatz

Buurgplaatz (alternate names: Buergplaatz, Burrigplatz, Burgplatz, Buergplaz zu Huldang) is a hill in the commune of Troisvierges, in northern Luxembourg. The 559 m summit lies within the Éislek region at 50.1615°N, 6.0281°W.

In 1952 the Institut national de l'information géographique et forestière declared Buurgplaatz the highest point in Luxembourg. Previously Napoléonsgaard hill at 547 m, located in the Canton of Redange, was considered the highest point.

In 1997 Buurgplaatz lost its status as highest point after GPS survey determined Kneiff at 560 m was 1m higher. The declaration plaque on the summit remains and Buurgplaatz may still be erroneously considered the highest point in Luxembourg.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary Miller

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 00:20, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Mary Miller
Delete as non-notable vanity. Google gives 120 hits for "Mary Miller"+saybrook+yale. Feco 23:19, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Keep this "Feco" is going around saying that everything is a vanity page. Someone who is a notable professor and leader of a university is not a vanity. CoolGuy 23:46, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC) Thanks, Kappa, for pointing out the professor test. Keep definitely now that I ready that. CoolGuy 16:20, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Well "vanity" has a special meaning around here, something like "not important enough". Anyway keep as the co-author of a book with an Amazon rank of 27,203 . Probably passes the professor test in various other ways too. Kappa 01:13, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, she is the Vincent J. Scully professor of the History of Art at Yale, . Is a published professor, with 10 listings on LOC, |N&PID=7928&SA=Miller,+Mary+Ellen&SA=Miller,+Mary+Ellen&BROWSE=1&HC=10&SID=2. Megan1967 02:36, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Coincidence
Hello WWC, just noticed that we both edited the hatchback article within a day of each other... What's the chances of that? WWC59 06:09, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Indeed! :-) WWC 02:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

College of William and Mary
Hi, WWC. As a current W&M student, I appreciate the attention you've been giving to my school's page. That said, why did you see fit to remove that it is known for its academic rigor? I'm not sure whether or not you're personally familiar with the College, but that really isn't a boast, whoever added it. The matter is negotiable, of course, but I think you would be hard-pressed to find someone who would disagree with the previous included statement. --BDD 06:34, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that was a poorly explained edit. The phrase "widely known for its academic rigor" rubbed me the wrong way, and I personally think it's too fussy, at least for the top (summary) section of the article. Perhaps a compromise would be to do something like "Academically rigorous, the College is known for...etc".
 * I'm a W&M student as well, by the way. WWC 04:22, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

The language about the Henricus school - you editted my previous entry, which specified that the school amounted to nothing more than an school for Native Americans. This is true and should probably be mentioned because otherwise it would appear that the University of Henrico became a real institute for higher learning, which it did not and remained nothing more than a Native American school through out its existence. Spwicy 19:05, 09 May 2006 (UTC)

William and Mary Presidents Merger Proposal
Thank you for expressing your concerns regarding my recent merger proposal between List of presidents of the College of William and Mary and the similarly-named section in the main College of William and Mary article. After reading your comments on the matter, I have come up with two possible solutions that I feel would address both concerns that you and I have raised. The two possible solutions that I am proposing can be viewed at Talk:List of presidents of the College of William and Mary. Please feel free to contact me at my Talk page on this matter. --TommyBoy 04:55, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Following up on my earlier comments, I have deleted the List of Past Presidents from the main College of William and Mary article replacing it with a link to List of presidents of the College of William and Mary rendering the merger proposal moot. --TommyBoy 17:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Mercury Mountaineer

Separate page
The Mercury Mountaineer needs ITS OWN PAGE. -User:NewGuy4 —Preceding undated comment added 23:21, 15 April 2005.

Added information
The article was missing an infobox, so I added one. Also changed the image to a promotional one of the current model year. I also added a section regarding the vehicle's availibility in the Canadian market. S3BST3R 06:08, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Curb Weight
What's the curb weight? Most automobile articles on Wikipedia don't have that data. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bizzybody (talk • contribs) 05:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roboticizer

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The result of the debate was keep. No consensus on what to do here. --Tony Sidaway Talk 13:20, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Roboticizer
Tagged by RickK and sort of added to Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Sonic the Hedgehog The Movie: The Doomsday Project but never deleted, relisting for clarity, no vote. --Doc (?) 00:23, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: Cruft: a subject of interest and, in fact, searchable only by those already possessing knowledge of it. All contexts refer solely to the internalities of a fiction.  Non-encyclopedic. Geogre 03:20, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Cartooncruft. Peter Isotalo 22:13, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete soniccruft. Suppose this could be merged somewhere, but I'm not a fan of so doing and wouldn't know where to. -Splash 22:18, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge into Sonic the Hedgehog (TV series), the Roboticizer is the major plot device of that series and where it originiated in the Sonicverse. Caerwine 05:56, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep these video game items. Could perhaps be merged somewhere, but I don't know where, merging this with the suggestion of Caerwine is possible but it seems a little clumsy. Sjakkalle (Check!)  08:34, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge into Sonic the Hedgehog (TV series) and redirect.--Matteh (talk) 05:33, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/100mm cannon

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100mm cannon, 150mm cannon, and 75mm cannon
Tagged as, these three articles just list specs for tank cannons. Zzyzx11 | Talk 23:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * They appear to be related to some game, not real life, with the "damage per shot" and "special: kills infantry instantly". Without context, delete . Change vote to merge with PlanetSide Tanks, as suggested by Kappa, now that I realize what the article's about. But it seems irrelevant now, as the info appears to have been move already.-LtNOWIS
 * Delete. Agree with LtNOWIS --Neigel von Teighen 23:35, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with PlanetSide Tanks or keep, useful for fans. Kappa 00:21, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * It may be useful for fans, but it does not work as a stand alone article. Delete, lacks context, not notable Dsmdgold 01:37, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * If it's merged, it will have context. Kappa 09:04, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Yay for that! Merging makes the world a better place! Radiant_* 13:26, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with PlanetSide Tanks, no redirect, it appears to be from that game. Megan1967 02:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge → PlanetSide Tanks. Out of context, I would expect 75mm cannon to direct me to a World War II era howitzer, and the others to link to more modern artillery or tank weapons. --Allen3 talk 03:17, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually before merging they should be moved to e.g. 100mm cannon (PlanetSide), then the redirect from 100mm cannon should be deleted or redirected somewhere else. Kappa 09:04, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all: not articles, WP != game site. Wile E. Heresiarch 23:03, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Halogen dance rearrangement

The halogen dance rearrangement is an organic reaction in which a halogen substituent moves to a new position on an aromatic ring system. The reaction belongs to a class of organic reactions called 1,2-rearrangements. The original halogen dance is the base-catalysed rearrangement of 1,2,4-tribromobenzene to 1,3,5-tribromobenzene in liquid ammonia with the aniline/potassium base system. The intermediate in this reaction is an aryl carbanion. The halogen dance concept can be extended from benzene derivatives to other aromatic systems as well, for instance furan and thiophene compounds.

The halogen dance rearrangement of iodooxazoles was studied by the Stambuli Group.

General references

 * Participation of oligochlorobenzenes in the base-catalyzed halogen dance Martin H. Mach, Joseph F. Bunnett; J. Org. Chem.; 1980; 45(23); 4660-4666.

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Alaska Botanical Garden

The Alaska Botanical Garden is a 110-acre (44.5 ha) botanical garden located inside the Far North Bicentennial Park at 4601 Campbell Airstrip Road, Anchorage, Alaska, United States. It is an independent non-profit organization which opened in 1993, is open year-round, and charges admission to support its mission. The mission of the Garden it to enhance the beauty and value of plant material through education, preservation, recreation and research.

The Garden's land consists mainly of spruce and birch forest. It features 8 developed demonstration gardens and a special location for Junior Master Gardeners. 80 acres (32.4 ha) of the site is fenced to protect these gardens from moose. The gardens include:

 * Over 1,100 species of perennials in the Upper and Lower Perennial Gardens (of which some 150 are native to Alaska)
 * An herb garden
 * A rock garden with over 350 types of alpine plants
 * A wildflower walk
 * The 1.1-mile (1.8 km) Lowenfels Family Nature Trail

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rebel Youth Network

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Rebel Youth Network
Delete as non-notable. Google gives 130 hits. Feco 23:25, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep as it is notably a part of leftist history in Canada, Quebec and the First Nations. They are linked with the Communist Parties, Young Communist League, and other history dating back over 70 years. I got 131 hits on google, and of course not many hits would come out now, the organization no longer exists! --Mista-X 23:30, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, how does it have a history dating back over 70 years when it only just formed in 2003 and is now defunct? Megan1967 02:51, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Because they where ex-communist party youth, (CP ws formed in '21) and ex-YCL (YCL was formed in '29), the name Rebel Youth came from the YCL magazine, many of the ideas of RYN can be linked back to these things, so it's a part of history on the left in Canada. --Mista-X 15:56, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. An encyclopedia with infinite space should be able to handle small, but historically notable groups such as this.  CJCurrie 23:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, concurring. Samaritan 02:25, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, but if it's kept, it seriously needs an NPOV cleanup. --Spinboy 00:16, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Editors of an encyclopedia of "infinite space" still need to craft the work with an eye towards crafting a high quality and discerning work. Indrian 04:07, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - will be of interest to left historians, people interested in youth groups etc. Indrian, the issues of whether the article needs rewriting and whether the topic merits an article are seperate. AndyL 16:11, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup as necessary. Kappa 18:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Formed in november 2003, faded away in 2004. Most fads last longer than that, let alone organizations. So, delete. Radiant_* 13:30, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. What CJCurrie said. Ground Zero 14:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable, go nowhere, do nothing group of 15 lefties. TDC 01:28, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable. Dagen 05:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, this is a historically significant party. Ruy Lopez 05:50, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Square root of 2

Unclear scope of "coprime" in Pythagorean Triple proof of irrationality.
The Sierpinski lemma is quoted as If a, b, and c are coprime positive integers such that a2 + b2 = c2, then c is never even.

As written, it's not clear whether a, b, and c are SETWISE coprime (there exists no natural number k which evenly divides a and b and c) or PAIRWISE coprime (there exists no natural number k which evenly divides more than one of a, b, and c). Reading the sufficiency clause as requiring PAIRWISE coprime numbers causes a serious problem later in the proof when we arrive at b2 + b2 = a2, where the two left-hand side elements, here b and b, are self-evidently not coprime.

One can easily show that some natural number k which evenly divides both a and b (that is, gcd(a,b)=k) must evenly divide c2 (see note [1] below), meaning the situation where a and c are pairwise coprime but a and b aren't cannot arise; but this lemma goes unstated, and it certainly isn't so obvious as to escape comment.

I hope what I've written here is clear. My point isn't that the proof is incorrect as-such, just that it's missing one of the strings required to tie the result together.

[1] Rather, you can easily show k2|c2; it's then a bit more complicated to show that k2 | c2 ⇒ k | c, but it does follow from a comparison of their respective prime decompositions -- if there is a prime q number in the prime decomposition of k not in the prime decomposition of c, there is no square of that prime available in c2 to evenly divide it out. 2603:7000:A101:F9F1:3D23:B869:D654:A984 (talk) 22:09, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Should I nominate this article for GA?
I feel this article can become a GA because,

 * 1) It is well-written and concise to the square root of 2.
 * 2) It is neutral (because it isn’t political)
 * 3) It is relatively stable, and does not break the three revert rule.
 * 4) It is well illustrated

However, I do not want to risk a drive-by nomination like I did at several articles, so that’s why I’m asking whether I should nominate this for GA status.  Brachy 08  (Never Gonna Give You Up, Never Gonna Let You Down)  02:56, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

 * There are many unsourced sentences, paragraphs, and even sections. I would likely quickfail it for that, even if it had a nominator who had put sufficiently many hours of work into the article and sufficiently much content to not count as drive-by. The lead does not properly summarize the body of the article, instead having its own content not repeated with more detail elsewhere. Several references appear unreliable and the reference formatting is not consistent. The long sections of formula after formula are also very dubious with respect to WP:GACR 3b, and the applications section looks thin and unbalanced. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:53, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know.  Brachy 08  (Let’s Have A Kiki,  I Wanna Have a Kiki)  00:15, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

"Apostol's" proof is not Apostol's
Tom Apostal published a proof in the November 2000 issue of the American Mathematical Monthly, and people have since been calling it "Apostol's proof." I presented the same proof in classrooms several times before that, having learned it from a book published in about 1960. The attribution to Apostols is false. Michael Hardy (talk) 05:36, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Rationalizing any digits of the (√2) by a single fraction of integers
Dear readers; I wish here only to demonstrate my recent new discovery that partly deals about the (square root 2); such as the following:

Rationalizing any digits of the (√2) by a single fraction of integers; is affirmatively possible in Circle to Circle: C2C, “CycLomeTrics”.

For instance, the next one is a source for the 32 digits equivalent of this issue:

(14398739476117879 / 10181446324101389) = 1.4142135623730950488016887242097

And c2c has also its own (√2) extraction pattern that operates infinitely than any known school thought…

I think this might be in help in this regard.

Thanks for your comments;

Abebaw Abebe Manaye (talk) 18:01, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

 * Hi Aboltek. I moved your comment from the article to the talk page, since it seems to be intended as a new discussion rather than a part of the article. I don't really understand what you are getting at with your comment. What does "circle to circle" mean? If you are interested in approximating √2 by rational numbers, there's some discussion in the article already, or you may want to look at Pell's equation. If your method is really a "new discovery" (not published previously) then it does not yet belong on Wikipedia, which only repeats material found in "reliable sources", and is not an appropriate place to share original research. –jacobolus (t) 08:59, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Proof by infinite descent
The proof is not currently styled as a proof by infinite descent. Instead, it is styled as a proof using an "extremal element". The extremal element being the (a,b) relatively prime. Compare with the proof in the article on infinite descent. The small difference being that in the extremal element we appeal directly to the well-ordering principle, the set of solution is assumed non-empty and we take the minimum solution (the relatively prime a,b). In the infinite descent, we appeal to "there are no strictly decreasing sequences of natural numbers", which is equivalent to well-ordering, but the form of the proof actually produces a strictly decreasing sequence, instead of a contradiction with a minimum. In the case of the proof of the irrationality of sqrt(2), it is true that the two styles are pretty similar, but in some other cases, like in graph theory, a proof using an extremal element and a proof by infinite descent can look significantly different, even though one can always translate one into the other. Thatwhichislearnt (talk) 15:03, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Opposite of rational not irrational
Please see https://math.andrej.com/2010/03/29/proof-of-negation-and-proof-by-contradiction/ and https://relatedwork.blogspot.com/2024/07/a-proof-of-proof-by-infinite-descent.html which are interesting reads on this. One point raised there that affects the article is that a proof that the square root of 2 is not rational does not imply it is irrational unless it is also proved to be real. After all the square root of minus 1 is not a rational number. NadVolum (talk) 23:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

 * Adding a proof that the square root of two is a real number seems excessive for the intended audience of this article. Maybe you could include or link one from a footnote though. (For instance a proof that the "Babylonian method" converges would suffice.) –jacobolus (t) 00:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homosexuality and morality

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was - should be merged - SimonP 13:45, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

Homosexuality and morality
A needless article. All of the information should be moved and often is just duplicated from these articles. This is just an un-needed article with the entitlement of "morals", which by definition is philosophy and religion. *Causes of sexual orientation Apollomelos 23:26, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Gay rights
 * Homosexuality and Religion
 * Homophobia
 * Anti-gay slogan
 * Societal attitudes towards homosexuality

 * This article is needed only if an article on "Heterosexuality and morality" is also needed. But I don't see what use it would be to discuss either matter in such a context. Perhaps we could consider an article on the morality of sexuality instead. I vote "delete" if not ammended as indicated. Haiduc 04:11, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't you think that's a little reductive? The fact is that homosexuality is a distinct issue, and there are moral concerns associated with it.  Saying "this article is needed only if an article on 'heterosexuality and morality' is also needed" is ridiculous.  Should we also have one on "heterophobia," "anti-hetero slogan," "societal attitudes towards heterosexuality," "heterosexuality and religion," "hetero rights?" Though I agree the article is poorly written, especially the "reactions" section which needs some serious editing in the name of neutrality, and personally I don't think it would be missed if it were deleted, but if it were heavily revised instead, it would serve a valid encyclopedic function.   Archaist 18:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment: Improperly nominated. I'm just finishing the submission. No vote. —Markaci 2005-05-8 T 01:59 Z
 * Delete. Inherently POV. Invites articles with "{anything} and morality"--just random original research. What's next, Lamb and morality? Leather and morality? Oral sex and morality? Science and morality? Ego and morality? Niteowlneils 07:37, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * We already have Societal attitudes towards homosexuality. Merge it there. I agree with Niteowlneils that it should be renamed. Mgm|(talk) 10:03, May 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Also delete Pie and morality, Bassoons and morality and Jigglypuff and morality if they should ever be created. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd  13:17, May 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Societal attitudes towards homosexuality. DeweyQ 19:04, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Exploding Boy 23:06, May 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Stancel 00:33, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Oh sure, someone is apt to type this articlename into a searchbox, not. hydnjo talk 00:59, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Comments. Regarding POV of content: This type of article is not designed to report whether or not homosexuality is right or wrong. It is intended to collect what various parties think and say about the subject.  It can easily be NPOV in that a variety of viewpoints are covered, and no one in particular is favored by the article. Regarding the need for a "heterosexual foo" for every "homosexual foo": Such parallelism is makes for significant redundancy and a very short "heterosexual foo".  It's much more useful, I've found, just to make "sexual orientation foo", and cover all aspects.  I should note that we also have Sexual morality, Sexual norm.  Causes of sexual orientation is no longer its own article, by the way; I merged it into Sexual orientation.  Pies and bassoons are different from sexuality, in that whatever moral implications their use may have, they are not the subject of raging national cultural and political controversies. -- Beland 02:56, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge if you must. Sexual morality and Sexual norm split discussion along a religion/rest-of-society line. It's fine with me if Homosexuality_and_morality is merged with Religion and homosexuality and Societal attitudes towards homosexuality along the same divide.  Though if I had my pick of articles to merge and purge, it'd be Anti-gay slogan, which seems a little one-sided. -- Beland 02:56, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect. -Sean Curtin 04:54, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Move information to other articles as appropriate. There is also a case for moving some information to a new article: Homosexuality and ethics, since there have been specific ethical positions consistently used to both condemn and justify homosexuality (natural law theory, divine command theory, and Kantianism on the one hand, and utilitarianism as a good example of the other).  I suspect an explanation of this may have been the original intent of the article.  -Seth Mahoney 08:39, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - this article has always been an attractor for POV regarding homosexuality, with its implicit and biased assumption that morality and homosexuality are somehow fundamentally interlinked - we don't have a page for Woman and Morality for example? This VfD is long overdue. Much of the content is repeated elsewhere so a merge would be redundant here, IMHO. --Axon 08:57, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete. --Spinboy 19:13, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep this is an encyclopedic topic. Morality is not religion. Merge with Societal attitudes towards homosexuality Klonimus 22:54, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, POV fork. There is nothing really here that is already in existing articles on homosexuality. Megan1967 01:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge or Move to the obvious entries, with appropriate links. Peter Ellis 02:17, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Societal attitudes towards homosexuality. POV fork. Jonathunder 13:31, 2005 May 11 (UTC)
 * Delete. POV magnet. Sheldrake 04:30, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Societal attitudes towards homosexuality. Nothing wrong with having a decent article on this topic, only this isn't it. -- AlexR 17:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Self talk
Hi,

First of all, I suggest you to move the section with this name at your user page here. This (user talk page) is the place for discussions, since you are probably expecting responses to your message.

Now, to your issue. Wikipedia generally descourages usage of external links. the reason is very simple: wikipedia cannot ensure neither the existence of external links, not their content: at some moment the external webpage may go dead or change its content so that it no longer be relevant to the article where it wa quoted. See When should I link externally listed at the wikipolicy page External links for more discussions of the issue.

Now, as for missing info: you are very well welcome to write aricles on the missing subjects, rather than refer to external places, even they contain your own text. Also, please read about conventions on article names and see the changes I've done in your Advertising management (renamed) article.

In addition, please read carefully the policy No original research. Among other things, the article you write must show that the term is well established and discussed in authoritative publications. For example, media buying, while it is an important act in ad managt, is is discussed as a separate subject in any of books about advertising practice? References to web pages will not count as authoritative, because they don't provide sufficient peer review (and wikipedia is not in the business of peer review either).

As for "missing links", please keep in mind that a missing term may have an article under a synonym or with different spelling, usage of capital letters, hyphens, etc.

I hope you will not be discouraged by the reception and become a valuable contributor, since you obviously have much to say. Mikkalai 18:15, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

self talk
What exactly is a "self promoting link"? Is it wrong if one has written something useful and it is submitted by him? I would like to draw attention to the articles like 'Advertising' and 'Neoliberalism' to which I had submitted an external link that was removed with the tag of 'self promoting link', simply because they had been written by me.

I thought that the article written by me was informative (a version of it has also been published in an Encyclopedia published by ME Sharpe). Now, I search for an article on 'Advertising Management' and find that there are no such article. So, I start a new article on Advertising Management. When I start writing, I find that the various things that have been mentioned in my article simply does not exist on wikipedia (indicated by red link). It consequently means that the article link submitted by me was informative.

It is not a problem, if someone edits out a link - the problem is with the tag of "self promoting link". Perhaps online democracy has also its flip sides.

I would rather appreciate the moderator who wrote regarding one of the links submitted by me on 'Lenin' as "They're not self-promoting, even though he wrote it himself."

I dont know about others, but to "self promote", would be the last thing I would do, or for that matter contribute my time to development of wikipedia - Anup (Apr 16, 2005)

reply: self talk
Well, I didn't know what purpose exactly this User talk section served.

Thanks for the response. Of-course there is no problem with anyone removing any link submitted by me - my problem only was the use of term "self promoting". I of-course would not like to make an issue of that. Most of the articles written by me (or submitted here) have been published in print (journal / encyclopedia etc). Of-course these articles are NOT the exact replica of the print - as that is a copyright issue.

Yes, I agree there is not going to be any original research here. I would gradually be chipping in the book references.

What I really like about the wikipedia is that one can develop a theme gradually without deadlines as such. Particularly the online editing feature is great.

thanks again.
 * Sorry, I gave you bad link. It should be No original research. And by the way, an easy way to sign your messages at talk pages is to type four tildas: ~ . It will be automatically converted into your signature, like mine here: Mikkalai 21:16, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

self-talk
I read somewhere that moderators could remove edit comments. Could the unreasonable comment of "self-promoting link seeding by User:AnupMukherjee" attached to the edits in Neoliberalism and Advertising, be removed? thanks AnupMukherjee 06:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Peer review Kolkata
Hi! A request has been made for peer review of Kolkata. Could you please help improving the article? Thanks a lot.--Dwaipayanc 11:44, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

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