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Michael Walker (politician)

Michael Walker (born 1940) is a former Canadian politician. He was a Toronto, Ontario city councillor from 1982 to 2010.

Walker was the City Councillor for Ward 22 (St. Paul's East) from 1982 to 2010. Ward 22 is bounded on the north by Eglinton Avenue and Broadway Avenue, on the east by Bayview Avenue, on the west by Spadina Avenue, and on the south by Moore Avenue and along the North Toronto Rail Line.

Walker, spurred on by a coalition of neighborhood groups (Federal of North Toronto Residents Associations) vigorously opposed to the development of the Minto Midtown project, which substantially exceeded the existing height and density limits when it was proposed in 2000.

Walker was first elected in the ward in 1982.

He is viewed as an independent and has never sided with the left or right factions on the city council. His reluctance to choose sides has meant that he has rarely been appointed to important city committees. It was not until the 2003 term of office that he was appointed chair of the Administration Committee.

A long-time advocate of campaign finance reform, Walker is also known for having been one of only two Toronto City Councillors who did not accept corporate donations.

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User talk:GreenLocust

Good job fixing the Milwaukee Brewer vandalism.

expos/nationals debate
There is a major debate going on, and I wondered if you might want to chime in. The debate involves how to deal with franchise moves in baseball. The question is whether Montréal Expos should be its own article or if it should redirect to Washington Nationals. All other instances of franchise moves in MLB redirect the old team name to the new team name, and the history of the franchise is covered within the new team name (for MLB, NBA and NFL examples, see here. Some people are confused and think the Expos and the Nats are different teams. Some people don't want to upset Canadian readers.

Indeed, the Washington Nationals are not a new team - the Montreal Expos franchise has moved to Washington, and the old franchise name should redirect to the new franchise name, just like the 20+ instances of this occuring in Wikipedia. For example, Brooklyn Dodger history resides in the Los Angeles Dodgers article. New York Giants history, including the Shot Heard 'Round the World, resides in the San Francisco Giants article.

If you have the time, maybe you could chime in on the conversation there, Votes for deletion/Montréal Expos. Kingturtle 21:06, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

RADIUS spam
You've been doing a good job on the RADIUS spam; that last one looked legit 'tho. Well, at least not commercial spam (which is why I left it). Did you follow the link through? Josh Parris ✉ 07:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Brewers
Thanks for finding that Memorial Stadium error. Palmer also threw one there in 69. In the correction I inadvertently thanked you as GreenLantern -- sorry about that. pickle 02:26, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Date delinking
Although the linking of dates is now depreciated, no one is actually allowed to go around in a campaign to de-link existing instances, as it appears you have been doing. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:19, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of information because it is in the infobox
The information in the infobox is sometimes duplicative of what is in the body of the article. It serves as a summary of highlights. I noticed that you have begun to delete the birthplaces of various ballplayers because they are reflected in the infoboxes. Well, so is their name. And so is their team (or teams). And so is their date of birth. And yet I don't so you deleting those from the text of the article -- though you logic would lead to that. I believe that you should follow the logic that is apparent from the infoboxes -- they are a summary of most pertinent facts, and inclusion of info in them should not lead to your stripping that info from the article. If you want to do that, I suggest you bring your suggestion to the baseball discussion page. In the meantime, please re-insert that info into the articles. If you wish to put it in the second para, that is fine with me, but it deserves to be in the article just as the date of birth (which you have not touched) deserves to be in the article.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:14, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Hi -- will you be addressing this, or should I? Thank you.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:02, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

 * I fail to see what needs to be addressed. First of all, I don't know where you get that I'm deleting the birthplace in the opening because it's in the infobox. As I stated and helpfully linked to in my editing comments, the MOS clearly states that the birthplace is not to be included in the opening alongside the birthdate (see here and here). That's why I'm deleting it, as to conform with the stated policy. This seems to be a stylistic affliction that is primarily limited to athletes, but there is no special MOS for athlete biographies; the Biography MOS covers everybody. When the information is already present in the rest of the article (usually in the infobox), I go ahead and delete it since no information is thus being removed from the article. In those cases where no infobox is present, and the deletion would actually result in the removal of information from the article, I leave the birthplace alone. Despite what you seem to be implying, the infobox is, in fact, part of the article. It is there to summarize and supplement information in the main body. There is a lot of information that is typically included in infoboxes that is not present in the rest of the article, such as uniform number, throwing hand, career stats, etc., so your implication that the infobox contains only information that is included in the rest of the article is simply false. If someone wants to take the birthplace information from the infobox and use it in an "Early Life" section for biographies that don't already have one, they are free to do so, since that is where the birthplace would normally go (in addition to the infobox). After my deletions, the information is still there in the article for everyone to see. One place it definitely does not belong is next to the birthdate in the opening. GreenLocust (talk) 01:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm confused --

First, you say you fail to see where I get that you are "deleting the birthplace in the opening because it's in the infobox."

I get it from the following 57 explanatory edit entries that you made (emphasis added in first one):

 * 17:10, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) B. J. Tucker  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 17:06, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Lance Painter  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:19, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Dustin Pedroia  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 15:18, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Lou Boudreau  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:17, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Butch Hobson  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:17, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Don Zimmer  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:16, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Todd Greene  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:16, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Bobby Ramos  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:15, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Steve Henderson  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:15, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Tom Foley (baseball)  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:15, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) George Hendrick  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:14, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) R. J. Swindle  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 15:14, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) José Lobaton  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:13, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Dale Thayer  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:13, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Wade Davis (baseball)  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:12, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Jacob McGee  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:12, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Mitch Talbot  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:12, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Joe Nelson  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:12, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Elliot Johnson (baseball)  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:11, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) John Jaso  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:10, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Andy Sonnanstine  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 15:10, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Matt Joyce (baseball)  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:09, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Reid Brignac  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * $15:09, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Justin Ruggiano  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:08, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Grant Balfour  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:08, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Jeff Bennett (baseball)  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:08, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Michel Hernández  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 15:07, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) J. P. Howell  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:07, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Randy Choate  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:06, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Dan Wheeler  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:05, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Jeff Niemann  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:05, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) James Shields (baseball)  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:04, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Lance Cormier  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:04, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Dioner Navarro  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:04, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Gabe Kapler  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:03, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Gabe Gross  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:03, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Carlos Peña  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 15:02, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Matt Garza  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:02, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Scott Kazmir  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:02, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) David Price (baseball)  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:01, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Carl Crawford  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:01, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Joe Dillon  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 15:00, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Jason Bartlett (baseball)  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 15:00, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Pat Burrell  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 15:00, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) Evan Longoria  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 14:59, August 7, 2009 (hist) (diff) B. J. Upton  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 19:58, August 5, 2009 (hist) (diff) m Bartolo Colón  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 19:57, August 5, 2009 (hist) (diff) m Pedro Martínez  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 23:33, July 31, 2009 (hist) (diff) Hong-Chih Kuo  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 23:28, July 31, 2009 (hist) (diff) LeVar Burton  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 14:57, July 31, 2009 (hist) (diff) Rick Warren  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 20:44, July 30, 2009 (hist) (diff) Dave Widell  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 20:44, July 30, 2009 (hist) (diff) Doug Widell  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 20:43, July 30, 2009 (hist) (diff) Boss Bailey  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 20:43, July 30, 2009 (hist) (diff) Champ Bailey  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox) (top)
 * 20:42, July 30, 2009 (hist) (diff) Josh Bell  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)
 * 20:19, July 30, 2009 (hist) (diff) Tim Alderson  (no birthplace in opening per MOS - already in infobox)

Second, the purpose of the infobox is to present certain summary or overview information about the subject that is IN the article. The fact that something is in the infobox is not reason to delete it from the article. This should be obvious, as the infobox also includes information such as the name of the person, his birthdate, teams he played for, major awards, etc., all of which is also included in the article--and I note you are not deleting those.

Third, perhaps I missed it, but while you say "the MOS clearly states that the birthplace is not to be included in the opening," (emphasis added) the first reference that you pointed me to only seemed to mandate what MUST be "at the start of an article on an individual" ... (his or her dates of birth and death). It did not at all seem to prohibit mention of the place of birth from being in the first paragraph (though it did not mandate it). The second reference, to naming, also seemed not to be relevant in the least -- if you can point me to relevant language in it that I may have missed, please do.

Fourth, if there is a mandate (or good reason) to not put the place of birth in the first paragraph, please point me to the mandate or good reason and feel free to move the reference to the second paragraph. But please by no means delete the information from the article, and please either revert the above deletions or move the reference (if there is support for the need to move it). Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

 * 1) You're right, I don't know where you're getting it. "No birthplace in opening per MOS" is one statement, "already in infobox" is another statement, both true. I'll expand it for you: "no birthplace in opening per MOS (hence I'm deleting it) - already in infobox (so no information is being lost)". I thought the "per MOS" explained why I was doing it, but I guess that wasn't clear.

 * 2) Again, I'm not deleting it because it's in the infobox, I'm deleting it to conform with the MOS (and every single featured article I looked at). I already stated this in my initial response, but I guess you didn't read it. Everything in the infobox is not necessarily in the rest of the article. There is additional information, such as uniform number, throwing/batting hand, career stats, etc. which is often included in infoboxes that is not present in the rest of the article, and I don't know why you don't recognize this. And of course I'm not deleting the rest, since the MOS doesn't say anything about those other things, and I'm doing this to conform with the MOS.

 * 3) Right here: "Locations of birth and death are given subsequently rather than being entangled with the dates." I'm unentangling them. The information is not being lost. It is still right there in the infobox. The infobox is part of the article. If someone wants to add an "Early Life" section which includes the birthplace, they are welcome to do so. There are a million things which need to be done to most articles to get them to featured article quality. I'm doing one of them. I invite you to go through as many biographical featured articles as you can stand and see how many have the birthplace at the opening next to the birthdate, and how many don't. If this style bothers you, I suggest you get the MOS changed, but as long as I'm following the MOS, I'm not going back and reverting them to a style which directly contradicts the MOS. GreenLocust (talk) 05:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If I may butt in on this discussion, both WP:NAMES and MOS:DOB is a guideline and definitely not a policy in which GreenLocust has implied. I think the mass deletion of birthplaces in the introduction to an article is unnecessary and personally I think it takes away from the article. Whenever I create any articles that fall under biographies of living people or athletes, I almost always start off with the opening sentence Joe Somebody (born 1st January, 1911 in Townsville, Australia) is an Australian tennis player etc. The point is WP:NAMES is a guideline and does not have to be (and actually is rarely word by word) followed by. So if it's upsetting people GreenLocust, please have good faith towards other peoples will and refrain from making such edits.  JRA _ Westy Qld2  Talk 03:47, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Dude, I'm following the MOS (and the style followed by every featured article I could find, and pretty much all of the non-athlete bios as well), and your advice is to ignore the MOS because one person doesn't like it? How about this: your style of putting the birthplace alongside the birthdate in the opening in direct contravention of the MOS bothers me, so please refrain from making those edits. Oh, and by the way, please go back and change all your previous edits to conform with my request. Because that's what your buddy is asking of me (except they want to ignore the MOS). But hey, maybe you guys are right, and so I should go and change every featured article to conform with your style. I'm sure that will go over very well. When I have the MOS and all featured articles on my side, and the argument against it is that someone doesn't like it, I'll stick with the MOS. By the way, I'm also changing hyphens to dashes in date ranges as specified by the MOS. If some hyphen-lover comes along and requests I stop that because they don't like dashes, and that I should go back and change all my previous edits, should I do that as well? GreenLocust (talk) 05:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

 * If some hyphen-lover comes along and requests I stop that because they don't like dashes, and that I should go back and change all my previous edits, should I do that as well?  Yes, probably. You should at least talk about it; those who do not do so have been banned for incivility.

 * The Manual of Style is a guideline. It has force insofar as it is consensus, and insofar as it is supported by sound argument. Unfortunately, very little of it is supported by argument, and much of it is the product of revert-warring, not WP:Consensus. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Green, I think the main point is that the infobox has all sorts of information that is summary -- as I point out above. And you don't delete that information, even though it is in the infobox. Which I think is fine. But similarly, I don't think you should delete the birthplace. People may not read the infobox, just as they might not read the awards box -- and the birthplace is as basic (probably more basic) than the month and day the person was born. So I think it definitely belongs in the text of the article.

I would be astounded if the bios of most if not all of the 10 most read people don't have the place of birth somewhere in the text. Rather than just in the infobox. Check Obama for instance. If you want to move it down a para, do so, but deleting it entirely from the text and relying only on it being in the summary infobox alone does not cut it, is not like most featured articles, and is not like most encyclopedias.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:13, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

 * You're being very pedantic about the subject many stub or start class articles follow a style contrary to the MOS simply because there is usually insufficient information to cover all areas of the manual, for example, when there is no information on earlier life. I'm sure your attentions are of good faith, but frankly deletion of information on Wikipedia is usually pointless and annoying for users who have created the information. This is much like your delinking of Wikipedia articles. Just because it is a guideline, unless it is a candidate for a GA or FA, it just causes arguments.  JRA _ Westy Qld2  Talk 10:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Green-- JRA Westy (above) and I agree. I'm saying that my experience with FA and GA articles is that the location of birth is located in the text of the article, not just in the infobox.  You seem to suggest the opposite.  I think if you double-check you will see I am correct.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:52, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Please stop now. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:24, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This seems a clear misreading of the Manual of Style. The example given is "Charles Darwin (12 February 1809 – 19 April 1882) was a British ...". That's from the text of Charles Darwin, not an infobox; that the text has evolved since is a detail.
 * More importantly, it ignores the purpose of infoboxes, and their utility to the encyclopedia: they are supposed to summarize the text of the article (which should be sourced), not replace it. (Some would argue that this is not sufficient utility to justify their space- and they may prevail; we do not wish to lose information if infoboxes are removed.)
 * Birthplaces are usually not necessary in the first parenthesis - although giving them there is probably harmless for living persons; but they should certainly be in the text - and usually in the lead - of the article. Your edits have failed to do this. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

 * I have proposed proposing a change to Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers) here. Please drop by and deposit your two cents. --Milkbreath (talk) 23:24, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) You absolutely, positively should not delete information from an article's main body of text simply because it is already in the infobox. Infoboxes are summaries of key points (and often navigation aids, e.g. from one TV series episode article to the next), not stand-alone mini-articles. The article itself may be repurposed in many ways (all of Wikipedia's content is free and reusable), including in forms that do not have such things as infoboxes or MediaWiki templates at all, such as other websites, books, you name it. Infoboxes are a convenience for Wikipedia readers, nothing more. The flip side of this point, of course is that any information found in an infobox should be added to the article and sourced there; citations belong in the article, not the infobox. —  SMcCandlish  [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 20:42, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

PS: If the birthplace is in the lead ("Opening?" Where'd that come from?) on a article with an infobox, then its presence in the lead should be moved to an "Early life" or similarly-named section in the article. If there is not enough material in the article for such a section, then it should be left as-is, because the article is a stub and needs a lot of further development before all of the recommendations that could apply to a biographical article will even make any sense with regard to the article in question. —  SMcCandlish  [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 06:13, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Green--Given the discussion both here and at, will you please as requested by me and others re-insert the information of birth place that you deleted from the 60-odd articles in question into the body/text (not counting the infoboxes as body/text) of those articles? Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:24, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

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Chris Woodward

Christopher Michael Woodward (born June 27, 1976) is an American former professional baseball utility player, coach and manager. He played in Major League Baseball (MLB) for the Toronto Blue Jays, New York Mets, Atlanta Braves, Seattle Mariners, and Boston Red Sox, from 1999 through 2012. He then served as a coach for the Mariners and Los Angeles Dodgers, from 2014 through 2018 and managed the Texas Rangers from 2019 to 2022. He is currently a special assistant and roving instructor for the Dodgers.

Amateur career
Woodward attended Northview High School in Covina, California, and Mt. San Antonio College.

Toronto Blue Jays
The Toronto Blue Jays selected Woodward in the 54th round of the 1994 Major League Baseball draft. He made his major league debut on June 7, 1999, hitting a sacrifice fly in an 8–2 loss to the New York Mets.

From 2002 through 2004, Woodward was the starting shortstop in about half of Toronto's games. On August 7, 2002, he achieved a rare feat by hitting three home runs in one game as a shortstop (the first as a Blue Jay and the 15th overall). After an injury-plagued and difficult offensive season in 2004, the Blue Jays released him.

New York Mets
In 2005, Woodward signed with the New York Mets. Woodward was the epitome of flexibility, playing at seven different positions including the entire infield and performing well off the bench and as a starter and even managed two game-winning hits. In 2006, he struggled with injuries and the Mets chose not to re-sign him.

Atlanta Braves
On December 20, 2006, Woodward agreed to a one-year deal with the Atlanta Braves. He went through a huge down season in Atlanta however, hitting an MLB-position player worst .199 with one home run.

Yankees, Phillies, and Brewers
On February 8, 2008, Woodward signed a minor league contract with the New York Yankees then was released on March 26 and signed with the Philadelphia Phillies on March 28, 2008, where he was assigned to the Phillies' Triple-A affiliate, the Lehigh Valley IronPigs. On May 2, 2008, Woodward was released. He signed a minor league contract with the Milwaukee Brewers on May 31, 2008, and was assigned to the Triple-A Nashville Sounds. He became a free agent following the season.

Seattle Mariners
Woodward signed a minor league contract with an invitation to spring training with the Seattle Mariners in 2009. On June 19, 2009, Woodward was called up from the Triple-A Tacoma Rainiers after second baseman José López was placed on the bereavement list. He made his debut for the Mariners that night, in their 4–3 win against the Arizona Diamondbacks, he was 2 for 4 in that game with a stolen base and a run scored. On August 4, Woodward was designated for assignment to make way for Adrián Beltré who was activated from the 15-day disabled list the same day.

He hit .299 with 52 hits, 12 doubles, one triple, one home run, 15 runs batted in (RBIs) and four stolen bases in 51 games with the Triple-A Rainiers. With the Mariners he hit .239 with one double and five RBIs in 20 games.

Boston Red Sox
On August 7, Woodward was claimed off waivers by the Boston Red Sox only to be designated for assignment eight days later on August 15, due to the acquisition of Álex González. He was later optioned to the Triple-A Pawtucket Red Sox and would be called up in September when rosters expanded.

Second stint with the Mariners
Woodward and the Seattle Mariners reached an agreement on a minor league contract with an invitation to spring training on January 6, 2010.

Second stint with the Blue Jays
On March 14, 2011, Woodward signed a minor league contract with the Toronto Blue Jays. Woodward was called up by the Blue Jays organization on April 21, 2011. He was outrighted to the minors on April 28. He returned to the team on September 4 for the remainder of the season. For the season, he was hitless and did not reach base in ten at bats. He was named a 2011 MILB.COM Toronto Organization All Star, after batting 296/.353/.474 with 13 home runs in 422 at bats in AAA for the Las Vegas 51s.

He became a free agent after the season, and re-signed to a minor league contract for 2012 by the Toronto Blue Jays, who invited him to spring training. On April 3, Woodward was assigned to the Las Vegas 51s. With them, in 2012 he batted .285/.338/.392 with 2 home runs, 34 RBIs, and 4 stolen bases in 309 at bats.

Seattle Mariners
Woodward retired on November 1, 2012 and joined the Seattle Mariners organization as minor league infield coordinator. He became the Mariners' infield coach in 2014, and served as the Mariners first base coach in 2015, but opted not to return for the 2016 season after manager Lloyd McClendon was fired.

Los Angeles Dodgers
On December 17, 2015, he was named the third base coach for the Los Angeles Dodgers. He spent the 2016 through 2018 seasons in that position.

Woodward managed New Zealand in the 2017 World Baseball Classic qualification tournament in Australia in 2016. Woodward interviewed for the New York Yankees manager position after the 2017 season, which eventually went to Aaron Boone.

Texas Rangers
On November 2, 2018, Woodward agreed to a three-year contract to be the manager of the Texas Rangers beginning with the 2019 season. On March 24, 2021, the Rangers exercised Woodward's option for the 2022 season. On November 19, 2021, the Rangers signed Woodward to a contract extension through the 2023 season, with a club option for 2024. The Rangers fired Woodward on August 15, 2022.

Dodgers front office
On January 20, 2023, Woodward was hired by the Dodgers as a special assistant in the front office as well as a roving infield instructor for their organization.

Personal life
Woodward is married to Erin Woodward, with whom he has three children. He met his wife, a native of Aurora, Ontario, while playing with the Toronto Blue Jays.

He and his family reside in Chandler, Arizona.

On March 8, 2004, Woodward was featured in Season 3, episode # 318, of Degrassi: The Next Generation.

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The H-reflex (or Hoffmann's reflex) is a reflectory reaction of muscles after electrical stimulation of sensory fibers (Ia afferents stemming from muscle spindles) in their innervating nerves (for example, those located behind the knee). The H-reflex test is performed using an electric stimulator, which gives usually a square-wave current of short duration and small amplitude (higher stimulations might involve alpha fibers, causing an F-wave, compromising the results), and an EMG set, to record the muscle response. That response is usually a clear wave, called H-wave, 28-35 ms after the stimulus, not to be confused with an F-wave. An M-wave, an early response, occurs 3-6 ms after the onset of stimulation. The H and F-waves are later responses. As the stimulus increases, the amplitude of the F-wave increases only slightly, and the H-wave decreases, and at supramaximal stimulus, the H-wave will disappear. The M-wave does the opposite of the H-wave. As the stimulus increases the M-wave increases. There is a point of minimal stimulus where the M-wave is absent and the H-wave is maximal.

H-reflex is analogous to the mechanically induced spinal stretch reflex (for example, knee jerk reflex). "The primary difference between the H-reflex and the spinal stretch reflex is that the H-reflex bypasses the muscle spindle, and, therefore, is a valuable tool in assessing modulation of monosynaptic reflex activity in the spinal cord." Although stretch reflex gives just qualitative information about muscle spindles and reflex arc activity, if the purpose of the test is to compare performances from different subjects, H-reflex should be used. In that case, in fact, latencies (ms) and amplitudes (mV) of H-wave can be compared.

H-reflex amplitudes measured by EMG are shown to decrease significantly with applied pressure such as massage and tapping to the cited muscle. The amount of decrease seems to be dependent on the force of the pressure, with higher pressures resulting in lower H-reflex amplitudes. H-reflex levels return to baseline immediately after pressure is released except in high pressure cases which had baseline levels returned within the first 10 seconds.

After about 5 days in zero gravity, for instance in orbit around Earth, the h-reflex diminishes significantly. It is generally assumed that this is due to a marked reduction in the excitability of the spinal cord in zero gravity. Once back on Earth, a marked recovery occurs during the first day, but it can take up to 10 days to return to normal. The H-reflex was the first medical experiment completed on the International Space Station.

History
It was first described by Paul Hoffmann (hence the name) in 1910.

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There's only a redirect at Mark Seddon, but it has history so I can't just move it myself. All the links to Mark Seddon are for the journalist, so there's no reason for the disambiguating title. sjorford →•← 21:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Done. Gdr 23:16, 2005 Apr 20 (UTC)

 * In 2002, he was controversially removed from the shortlist to be Labour's candidate in the Ogmore by-election.

This is slightly ambiguous: I take it he was removed from Labour's shortlist, not removed from "the shortlist" in order "to be Labour's candidate"? Below is better in that case:
 * In 2002, he was controversially removed from Labour's candidate shortlist in the Ogmore by-election.

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Nicholas Scutari

Nicholas Paul Scutari (born November 18, 1968) is an American politician and attorney who has served as the 115th president of the New Jersey Senate since 2022. A member of the Democratic Party, he has held a Senate seat since 2004, representing the 22nd legislative district. Scutari has served as Acting Governor of New Jersey on multiple occasions, the first time being in June 2022.

Early life
Scutari attended Union County College, received a B.A. from Kean University in Psychology, an Ed.M. from Rutgers University in Education and a J.D. from the Western Michigan University Cooley Law School. He is an attorney with the Law Offices of Nicholas P. Scutari.

Political career
Before his election to the New Jersey Senate, Scutari was a member of the Union County Board of Chosen Freeholders, where he became the youngest freeholder chairman in county history. He served as freeholder chairman in 1999, after serving a year as freeholder vice chairman. Prior to being a freeholder, he served as a member of the board of education of the Linden Public Schools.

New Jersey Senate
He was nominated for the Senate after Senator Joseph Suliga announced that he would not seek re-election after a female casino employee in Atlantic City accused him of sexual harassment.

Scutari has served on the State Government Committee (as the chair), the Joint State Leasing and Space Utilization Committee, the Commerce Committee and the Judiciary Committee. Scutari held the role of chair of the New Jersey Senate Judiciary Committee for the longest period in modern history. He is a former commissioner of the New Jersey Clean Elections Commission. He is also a former vice chairman of the Senate Education Committee. He is President of the New Jersey Senate. Scutari was the chief sponsor of New Jersey's Medical Marijuana law that was signed into law in 2009 and has been an advocate for the effort to legalize marijuana for all individuals over the age of 21. After a bill he introduced failed in 2014, Scutari introduced a bill in May 2017 to legalize, regulate and tax recreational marijuana use; while then-Governor of New Jersey Chris Christie was vigorously opposed to the measure, incoming governor Phil Murphy had announced that he would support legalization.

Committees
Committee assignments for the 2024—2025 Legislative Session are:
 * Joint State Leasing and Space Utilization Committee

District 22
Each of the 40 districts in the New Jersey Legislature has one representative in the New Jersey Senate and two members in the New Jersey General Assembly. The representatives from the 22nd District for the 2024—2025 Legislative Session are:
 * Senator Nicholas Scutari (D)
 * Assemblywoman Linda S. Carter (D)
 * Assemblyman James J. Kennedy (D)

Acting Governor
On June 4, 2022, Scutari, in his capacity as the Senate president, became acting governor of New Jersey as both Governor Phil Murphy and Lieutenant Governor Sheila Oliver were out of state on personal trips. He became acting governor for 15 days on July 31, 2023, when Murphy was out of state and Oliver was hospitalized for an illness, from which she died the following day. With Governor Murphy attending a meeting of the Democratic Governors Association in Colorado in late August 2023, Scutari served in his absence as acting governor for the third time.

Linden municipal prosecutor
Prior to his senatorship, Scutari was Municipal Prosecutor for the city of Linden, New Jersey, until he was ousted from the position in January 2019 for absence at court hearings. He contested the report which cited that he did not appear more than 50% of the time and sued the city, the case was settled.

Family
In Italy, his cousin Donato Scutari, a member of the Italian Communist Party, was elected Deputy and Senator of the Italian Republic. His uncle, Anthony Scutari, was chair of the Union County Improvement Authority.

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Aviaexpress

Aviaexpress was an airline based in Hungary.

Code data

 * IATA Code: RX
 * ICAO Code: AEH (no longer allocated)
 * Callsign: Avex (no longer allocated)

Fleet
As of August 2006 the Aviaexpress fleet included:
 * 2 Let L-410 UVP

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John Aston Jr.

John Aston Jr. (born 28 June 1947) is an English former professional footballer who played in the Football League for Manchester United, Luton Town, Mansfield Town and Blackburn Rovers.

Aston was a forward who rose through the Manchester United youth system. His debut for the club came in 1965 against Leicester City. He went on to help the club win the 1967 League championship as well as the 1968 European Cup, where he provided a man of the match performance in the final against Benfica at Wembley Stadium on 29 May 1968. Aston scored 27 goals in 187 appearances before leaving the club in 1972 for Luton Town, later playing for Mansfield Town and Blackburn Rovers.

His father, John Aston Sr., also played for Manchester United in the immediate post-Second World War years, and was a coach at United during his son's playing career.

After retiring, Aston now runs a pet stall in Glossop, High Peak, Derbyshire.

Club

 * Manchester United
 * First Division
 * Winner: 1966–67
 * Charity Shield
 * Winner (2): 1965*, 1967* (*=shared)
 * European Cup
 * Winner: 1967–68
 * Intercontinental Cup
 * Runner-up: 1968

Individual

 * 1968 European Cup Final Man of the Match

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Aristodemus (died 479 BC)

Aristodemus (Ἀριστόδημος, died 479 BC) was a Spartan warrior, one of the 300 sent to the Battle of Thermopylae.

Thermopylae
Aristodemus was the only Spartan survivor, as he was not present at the last stand. Aristodemus was stricken with a disease of the eye, causing King Leonidas to order him and another soldier to return home before the battle, but Eurytus turned back, though blind, and met his end charging into the fray.

The Greek historian Herodotus believed that had both Aristodemus and Eurytus returned alive, or had Aristodemus alone been ill and excused from combat, the Spartans would have ascribed no blame to Aristodemus. However, because Eurytus did turn back and died in combat, Aristodemus was regarded as a coward and subjected to humiliation and disgrace at the hands of his compatriots; in the words of Herodotus, "no man would give him a light for his fire or speak to him; he was called Aristodemus the Coward."

The other survivor of the Three Hundred was a man named Pantites, who had been sent by Leonidas on an embassy to Thessaly. He failed to return to Thermopylae in time for the battle, and on finding himself in disgrace in Sparta, hanged himself.

Plataea
At the Battle of Plataea, Aristodemus fought with such fury that the Spartans regarded him as having redeemed himself. Although they removed the black mark against his name, they did not award him any special honors for his valour because he had fought with suicidal recklessness; the Spartans regarded as more valorous those who fought while still wishing to live. Aristodemus charged, berserker-like, out of the phalanx and fought, in the opinion of Herodotus, with the most bravery of all the Spartans before falling in battle.

In popular culture
Aristodemos is the main figure in Caroline Snedeker's popular historical novel The Coward of Thermopylae (1911), retitled in 1912 as The Spartan.

Aristodemos appears as a recurring background character in Steven Pressfield's 1998 novel Gates of Fire. Four years before the battle of Thermopylae, he is part of an ultimately unsuccessful four-man envoy sent to Rhodes to dissuade the Rhodian navy from serving Xerxes. While at Rhodes the envoy encounters a group of Egyptian marines, led by a captain named Ptammitechus (whom they simply call 'Tommie'), and is given a tour of their warships. Aristodemos is later mentioned as being one of the three hundred selected to accompany Leonidas to hold up the Persian army at the Hot Gates. He is also part of a three-man envoy sent to Athens a short time before the battle to finalize details of the allied Greek forces' defenses. At the Hot Gates before the battle is begun, a Persian herald is sent to convince the Greek allies to submit; the herald turns out to be Tommie, who calls out by name for each man of the envoy he had met at Rhodes (all four of whom are among the three hundred), before requesting to speak with Leonidas directly. Despite their refusal to surrender, Tommie presents a golden goblet as a gift to the Greeks, handing it to Aristodemos who in turn passes it to Leonidas. Before the fighting on the third day, Aristodemos is mentioned along with Eurytus to have been evacuated to the village of Alpenoi after eye-inflammation rendered them both sightless. Finally, Aristodemos's shameful treatment upon his return to Sparta is recalled, as well as his redemption by the heroic way he fought at Plataea.

A character slightly based on Aristodemus named Dilios appears in and partly narrates Frank Miller's 1998 graphic novel 300, which retells the events of the Battle of Thermopylae. In the 2006 movie adaptation of the same name, Dilios was portrayed by David Wenham. Unlike Aristodemus, Dilios is not ordered home because of infection, although he does lose an eye in combat. It was so that he can use his oratorial skills to tell the story of his comrades in order to inspire the rest of Sparta, and then all of Greece. As such, he faces no scorn from his comrades on his return, and is later seen leading the Spartan army into battle at Plataea.

The character also appears in the sequel 300: Rise of an Empire, where he follows Queen Gorgo into battle and fights alongside her and Themistocles. The three of them survive the events of the film.

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Stag Radio

Stag Radio is the radio station run by the students of the University of Surrey in Guildford, Surrey, England, which broadcasts on 1350AM during term-time. It is a long term Restricted Service Licensed broadcaster operating under a Low-power AM licence.

History
The radio station started out as University Radio Surrey in 1972, before being rebranded as Guildford Campus Radio (GCR) in 1990. In 2001 the radio station was renamed GU2 after the postcode prefix of the area surrounding the University campus. Following the rebranding GU2 won the title of "Best Station" at the 2002 SRA Awards reflecting the pursuit of an innovative format featuring favourites such as The J-Team, Ben Lander, Gareth Davies, Pinal Gandhi ("P") with The Vibe and a fair smattering of Greek language and religious content overnight. GU2 also won the award for "Best Interview" at the 2010 SRA awards. James Alexander won the award for his interview with Sue Doughty, member of the Liberal Democrats and most recently Adam Read and Olivia Jones took Silver in Student Radio Chart Show 2013.

In 2004 the radio station was visited by the Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex as part of his trip to the University. Also in that year GU2, along with many other UK student radio stations, faced a crisis when the Student Broadcast Network (SBN) closed down. SBN had not only been providing the station with a source of income, but also providing news and music programmes to fill gaps in the schedule.

Other notable visitors include Cliff Richard who was interviewed by the station. In more recent times, members have conducted interviews with We Are Scientists, Wheatus, Alter Bridge, Glasvegas, The Twang, The Commitments, Venga Boys, Dan Le Sac Vs. Scroobius Pip, Empire of the Sun, Ivyrise, Anberlin, Faithless and White Lies.

In 2010, the station featured in national newspaper, The Guardian, in an article by Lucy Tobin, about the importance of extra-curricular activities to give employability.

In 2013, the station was re-branded to Stag Radio; the most recent and current radio name that has been taken on by Surrey Student Union.

Organisation
Stag Radio is a society and is run by a committee elected at annual general meetings held at the university. All students of the university are eligible to stand and vote in these elections. Stag Radio society has a constitution based on that of its parent body- the University of Surrey Students' Union.

The current committee structure has three signatories: Station Manager, Vice President, and Treasurer. Underneath these positions are the various Heads of vital aspects in the running of Stag Radio. The other roles within the station include the Tech manager, Music Interviews manager and Events Manager

As of the 2023-24 academic year, the current committee is occupied in the following positions:

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Talk:Alhambra

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Err
Sorry, but are those really the best photos we can get of the Al-Hambra? No offence, but it really doens't show you enough of the interior. --Irishpunktom\talk 21:49, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

I have a pretty good selection of photos of the Alhambra (and Generalife) from my trip there in 2002. I offer them under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs license. You can use any of them that you like for this article, and they can be found here. --Prwood 04:25, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

i have just visited the Alhambra (march 2007) and i bought a book explaining the history of it. (This book was bought in Granada) In the book, it says that the name is derived from the same word in Arabic meaning red, but the red comes from the top layer of oxidised soil which is red (i saw it!). the name of the book is The Alhambra and Granada in focus. Please research this.--Aixoise21 13:04, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I've always been told that the lion fountain was a gift from the jews in the city. It says in various places that it is a rare example of Islamic Animal statues, and that it was probably made by Christians as Muslims believe that it is idoltry... I don't think that either of those is correct in this case.

mmm, i don't think so, I mean why do you think the conflict between the Arab in Andalusia and in the homeland of Arab? because of this matter. Arab andalusia started to make statues and so on! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mewoone (talk • contribs) 16:36, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

 * This article should be called Alhambra, not The Alhambra. In Spanish it receives the definite article, but if this were an integral part of the name it would have been left untranslated. The begining of the name is, in fact, the Arabic definite article anyway. The definite article may have been put there to distinguish it from other Alhambras. However, that is what Alhambra (disambiguation) is for. A notice at the top of this article already points users there if this is not what they are looking for. --Gareth Hughes 14:19, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * ''Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation and sign your vote with ~

 * Support Gareth Hughes 14:19, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Support the reasoning above. Jonathunder 05:43, 2005 Apr 24 (UTC)
 * Oppose The Alhambra is never ever referred to just as "Alhambra" in English. We should use the normal English name - which in this case includes the definite article, jguk 22:42, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * What is being proposed is not to remove the word the when it occurs before Alhambra in running text but to remove it from the title because The is not part of the name itself. Consider how the United Kingdom is listed. The word the is almost always in front of it in text, but The is not a part of the article title itself. Jonathunder 00:31, 2005 Apr 25 (UTC)

 * Support The naming convention is this case comes down to "is the "The" normally capitalised in running text?"  (As there's no "title of 'works'" or "official name" consideration here.)  Evidently it's not -- witness the article itself.  Alai 23:50, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Support, for reasons given by Gareth Hughes. -- Uppland 21:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Support Both WorldBook and Britannica list just Alhambra; though in commentary it is almost always referred to using the definite article. Standard practice indicates article should be listed simply as "Alhambra." - Quartermaster 18:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 21:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Objectivity and hearsay?
I removed some adjectives that were blatantly subjective, and I think perhaps we should open a discussion on the objectivity of some of the other statements in this article.

Also, does anybody know of a trustworthy source that verifies the story about Napoleon's "crippled soldier" story, under the history section? It sounds a lot like hearsay.

 * The information appear on few sites as well i.e. 1 2 3, but i never came across it before; anyone has a source? Thank you --NEWUSER|CARPEDIEM (talk) 06:17, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

Much of the information here seems to be faulty and not backed up by in-depth research. I removed several passages referring to the often-repeated yet not entirely accurate statement that Islam forbids the depiction of humans and animals. In fact, in addition to the famous lions there are several paintings in the Alhambra that clearly depict humans (frescoes in the Torre de las Damas in the Partal Palace and paintings on stretched leather on the alcove ceilings in the Sala de los Reyes in the Riyad Palace, or Court of the Lions). It should also be noted that almost all of the names used in this article are not original designations. Rather, they are post-conquest Spanish names (many of which were based on Arabic corruptions and misunderstandings) or more fanciful names applied by foreign travelers during the Romantic Period.83.43.234.5 12:25, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

 * If it's not true, it's certainly widely believed, and of course the Alhambra contains a monument to the crippled soldier in the form of a large plaque just outside the Alcazaba. Flapdragon 16:31, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Patio lions as a clock
''The twelve lions functioned as a clock with water flowing from a different lion each hour. The Christians of the Reconquest took apart the clock to see how it worked and it hasn't worked since.''

Can we have some references for this intriguing but unlikely-sounding idea? A brief search turned up only one not very authoritative reference. If it was widely accepted as fact I feel it would be more widely mentioned. Flapdragon 16:26, 12 December 2005 (UTC) hello

Arabic name
As far as my basic Arabic goes, "الحمراء" means "the red", just a definite article and an adjective. It does not specify any noun -- a castle, a cat or whatever. So I'd translate that as "the red one", or something like that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 150.214.36.10 (talk • contribs).
 * Indeed, but the whole name of the fortress was القلعة الحمراء. That means "The Red Fortress". --Garcilaso 17:37, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

NPOV & Peacock terms
I just reverted two edits by 86.129.108.118, one of which added a grammatical error that was previously corrected back into the article and both of which put peacock terms back into the article. If, after reviewing the edits I reverted, anyone feels that this was unjust, please discuss it here, rather than edit warring. Thanks. Ketsuekigata (talk) 01:29, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Edits by User:Rafmad
Beautiful and poetic writing works marvelously in brochures, travelogues and descriptive books. Here on Wikipedia, the writing style should be more objective and factual. Sentences like "the Nasrids sought to immortalize themselves through a work of beauty that seems to exist in some dream world as much as it does in this one" are completely unsupportable via external references. How can anyone today know what the Nasrids were thinking? Binksternet (talk) 19:48, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Only one sentence (the one quotated by Blinksternet) of the edit by Rafmad is poetical and empty, the rest is valious information, and improves the poor section about the historical context of Alhambra consttruction. I restore it. --Garcilaso (talk) 15:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Most-visited monument in Spain
Official sources earlier this year (late last year?) stated that the Alhambra is now the most-visited monument (dare I say tourist attraction?), ahead of the Prado, etc. I don't have time now to find the reference, but maybe someone can and modify the lead accordingly. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 08:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

But look out! You need to make advance reservations to visit the Alhambra. On visiting last Sunday (10th October 2010) we arrived at about midday to discover that it was sold out for the day, and we could try coming back at 8am the next day when we might be able to get in. We were told that we could not reserve a ticket for the next day as reservations were booked up at least a week ahead. It was a disappointing visit to Granada. Luckily both Cordoba and Seville which were on our itinerary offered amazing monuments that made up for it... (Mike Kemp) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.247.227.61 (talk) 06:58, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Map needed
Wouldn't it be better to add a map to show its location? Thanks.--GDibyendu (talk) 18:05, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Quite right. Unfortunately, the WHS infobox doesn't allow for location maps, but I have added one to the setting section . Nev1 (talk) 18:16, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

WE NEED A DANG MAP-- Ryan H. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.72.41.136 (talk) 01:24, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Physical description
Rewrite and source needed:
 * The literal translation of Alhambra "red fortress" derives from the color of the red clay of the surroundings of which the fort is made. The buildings of the Alhambra were originally whitewashed; however, the buildings now seen today are reddish.

Not fluent English, and hard to correct without a source. Red bcz the clay has penetrated the surface of the building materials? In what sense is "the fort is made" of "the red clay of the surroundings"? Is it simply a network of dirt berms? Brick baked from local clay? Rammed earth? Is "the buildings now seen today" a redundancy? Are these new buildings, or has their appearance just changed? In my climate, whitewashing is regarded as something more casual than painting, presumably needing more frequent renewal; does no one bother to renew it, or has the surface eroded (from neglect or abuse?) to the point where it would look even worse it were whitewashed again? If a source in good English is not offered soon, i'm prepared to remove at least what i've quoted here. --Jerzy•t 22:48, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Link out to Alhambra Model
A link out to an model of the Alhambra in an application called 'Second Life' has been removed as off topic; while I don't use the application, I see a simulation of the architecture featured in this article as topical and useful to readers. What is the rational for removal?Mavigogun (talk) 11:04, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

 * The question is, how accurate is the representation of Alhambra? I'm not familiar with Second Life, but it essentially appears to be a game. A representation of Alhambra in a game isn't really useful to the reader as it almost certainly won't be accurate. However, on commons there are some videos round Alhambra which I think would be very useful in the article. They bring the place to life a bit more than static pictures. Nev1 (talk) 14:42, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

 * The key problem I have with your assessment and removal of the link out is illustrated in the above statement 'I'm not familiar'; if you don't know, you can't assess- and your presumption of a lack of worth due to a lack of personal knowledge isn't a basis for a credible judgment; the expressed prejudice you have regarding the platform for delivery of the simulation is unfortunate: several game engines (Quake, Unreal) have been employed as architectural tour vehicles to great effect- which you might find laudable.  If you are familiar with Alhabra, you might consider installing the application and assessing the link out.  Mavigogun (talk) 15:04, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

 * That's the game engines, not the games themselves. It is possible that Second Life has a remarkably accurate recreation of Alhambra, but since it's essentially a computer game and it isn't likely. I realise I'm generalising here, but it's common sense that as the site is very complex it wouldn't be recreated accurately. If it was an archaeological or architectural reconstruction then I'd be all for it, but let's be honest that since it's a computer game it's unlikely to have the highest standards of adhering to reality. I'd be happy to be proved wrong though as iff it is accurate it would be very useful to the article's readers. Nev1 (talk) 15:15, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I removed the link because this is an article about the real Alhambra, not about any virtual Alhambra. If there were some notability given the virtual version, a popular commentator comparing them, a well known critic saying they don't match up perfectly, then there could be article text devoted to the virtual version. As it was when I chanced upon it, the virtual version was given a free pass as if its notability was assured, which I doubt. Binksternet (talk) 15:41, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, the article isn't about a simulation... and the article isn't about 2D drafted plans of the structure- but a link out to architectural drawings of Alhambra would be just as topical.  The link out is contextually congruent with the article and section heading.   If you doubt the appropriateness because the material linked to may lack merit, I can only suggest investigating.   Suspicions are not our metric.Mavigogun (talk) 16:12, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I don't put a computer model made by one or more fans of the building in the same category as architectural drawings made from surveys of the building. Instead, I classify the Second Life virtual version the same as a detailed story or recollection written about the Alhambra. I see no reason to list any work of fiction about the Alhambra unless the work can be said to be notable. Binksternet (talk) 22:40, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Your classification of the simulation as a 'work of fiction' is contrived: by that measure, any rendering- be it architectural drawings, photographs- are 'works of fiction'.  The application 'Second Life' is used for virtual conferences, news distribution (by several prominent sources, including NPR), and architectural simulations -in addition and apart from being a storytelling platform. You have admitted total ignorance as to the quality of the rendering- and thus the ability to assess worth -yet you persist in making presumptions of quality and issuing baseless judgments.   The simulation could be totally insubstantial- or of exceptional quality. Unless you are willing to review a source, you can't assess it's worth with any authority.Mavigogun (talk) 07:04, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Show me the proof that the virtual Alhambra is notable. Binksternet (talk) 07:59, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * So you have discarded your initial stated reason for removing the link out?  You asked 'how accurate is the representation of Alhambra'; now your criteria is 'prove it is notable'- it appears that your reason is morphing to support a position.   Have you examined the model to assess its accuracy?   Have you sought out the proof you desire?   Your removal of several such SL link outs without due consideration (examining of the referenced material) speaks of an agenda, as does your above presumption of quality.   You have prejudged the value for all other users- rather than seek to establish value.Mavigogun (talk) 12:20, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you are confusing my talk points with those of Nev1. Nev1 asked about accuracy. I asked about notability and context. I'm also concerned with verifiability and the level of knowledge held by the creator of the virtual version. I have been examining all the instances of http://slurl.com/secondlife (as in search results such as this) to see whether the link to Second Life is discussed in the article or if it is presented baldly with no context. In the instances with no context, I have been removing the links. I would like to see the links given a place in the article text so that the connection to the article subject matter is clear. In the case of Alhambra, the Second Life virtual version has not been connected to its creator which means we don't know who put it together, how accurate it is or what gives it notability. We don't know if referring the reader to the link is helpful or harmful. At WP:External links, we see that "acceptable links include those that contain further research that is accurate and on-topic". The request by Nev1 for a verification of accuracy is perfectly valid. Who made the virtual version? What is their architectural modeling background? Are they knowledgeable enough? Binksternet (talk) 20:07, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Much of the article seems sourced from the 1910 Britannica, but newer material refutes some of the more romantic and dramatic aspects
Here is the Britannica article.

Please note how Irwin refutes much of the questionable material in this article in the introduction to his 2004 book The Alhambra.

1910 Britannica may be a good source for descriptions of the site, but the historical aspects of this article need to be scrutinized closely. Aquib (talk) 05:38, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Jewish builder of the Alhambra
Why is there no mention of the fact that the Alhambra was originally built by the Jewish vizier, Yehoseph ibn Nagralla, as per the link below? Would soemone care to make the amendment?

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/the-lions-of-the-alhambrajews-in-moorish-spain/

Note that this is supported by the Junta de Andalucia (regional government). See the link below which states '1056-1066?. El visir Yusuf ibn Nagralla  construye el Hisn al-Hamra'.

Answer = Alhambra was build by people from sindh (indus valey) who moved to arabic country during civil wars, many of these architect went marroco and spain, go and search about makli graveyard in sindh (pakistan) they had same design which they used on graves a stodework, the muslims learned it work on the stones from hindu temples which are 4000 years old, these sindhi muslim brought this culture to spain and build not a jew. ibn batuta was also in india and pakistan to learn and he came to spain with his people to work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.152.187.21 (talk) 20:51, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/educacion/webportal/web/milenio-del-reino-de-granada/cronologia-y-linea-del-tiempo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.50.200.0 (talk) 15:51, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

High quality panorama showing the entire complex available
In case an editor finds it relevant, I would just like to mention that a high quality panorama with a rather attractive light of the entire complex is available. I am not a wikipedian and not knowledgeable about the topic either, so I do not feel competent in doing it myself (I am biased too as it is my photo). However, I feel, that maybe it could replace one or more other existing photos of the exterior as seen from Granada, to decrease overall image clutter on the page with many small thumbnails. --Slaunger (talk) 19:13, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. J e e  16:23, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- Slaunger (talk) 17:45, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks good - nice work both of you! Hchc2009 (talk) 19:07, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Multiple non-standard image sizes in gallery
Recent edits have created a mixture of large and non-standard image sizes in the gallery. One option would be to remove it altogether - the article is already heavily illustrated. Another would be to go back to the standard-sized gallery that we had up to 23 December. I can see an argument for a third option, which is to allow the two panoramas to be somewhat wider than the other images - otherwise they appear very tiny as they have a wide aspect ratio. The current arrangement has large images (bigger than the default in most cases) all at different size because of the newly-applied "packed" setting, which leaves upright images very small and panoramas very large. I am minded to remove the gallery as all the images will remain on the Commons Alhambra page where they can readily be browsed. The larger question is how many images there should be in the article: if it's less than 33, which does sound rather a lot, then removing the gallery would be the best answer. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:14, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd be inclined to remove the gallery; the rest of the article is, as you say, already thoroughly illustrated with images, and I can't see what the theme of this gallery is supposed to be. Hchc2009 (talk) 15:51, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I've removed some pics and moved others, & removed the stupid "packed" gallery format. The article should have lots of pics, and especially more and better text. It gets over 400k views a year (mobile excluded). Johnbod (talk) 01:01, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

 * The panorama shots within the intro are a bit much. Also the Layout section now looks too busy with the image that large plus the panorama. Perhaps a separate panorama gallery could contain all three of those shots.  I will spread some of the images out, but the right now the crush of large images at the top is overbearing.  Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 01:14, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I disagee - the big white space next to the TOC is the best place for images that need to be very wide - are you sure you aren'tr just reacting to what is unusual (on WP)? I wouldn't mind if the third one was moved there too. Johnbod (talk) 01:41, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * If you are done working for a bit, I have a few adjustments that will help. I'll include the third panorama at the top, as you suggest. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 01:55, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Probably two panoramas are more than sufficient. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:04, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * This is a bit more tidy and less imposing. As you said, what is really needed is more text. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 02:08, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, that looks much tidier, thank you. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:05, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Johnbod (talk) 09:27, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Muqarnas are not Mocárabe
There's a problem in the section "Architectural details" where it's written this: as well as innovations such as stilted arches and muqarnas

That's a huge mistake. The innovation wasn't the "muqarnas" (which existed long before the construction), but an innovation called "mocárabe", which derives from muqarnas adding a stalactite.

The article Muqarnas suffers from the same mistake saying: When some elements project downwards, the style may be called mocárabe

The article Mocárabe writes this: The terms mocárabe and muqarnas are similar and may be used interchangeably at times, but muqarnas do not necessarily have stalactite formations.

Untrue. If a square has a longer dimension, it's no longer a square, it's a rectangle. Different shapes has different names.

Even more, the Mocárabe article spits this afterwards: The Nasrid used mocárabe in the Alhambra, most notably in the "Sala de los Mocárabes."

I think the removal of "muqarnas" from this text as well as fixing both Muqarnas and Mocárabe to make the distinction clear. What do you think?

Also, moving Muqarnas, which is plural, to Muqarna, the proper singular. Same as if I go to Bricks, plural, will redirect me to Brick, its singular proper noun.

Franzrogar (talk) 07:07, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

File:Alhambra evening panorama Mirador San Nicolas sRGB-1.jpg to appear as POTD soon
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Alhambra evening panorama Mirador San Nicolas sRGB-1.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on October 22, 2016. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2016-10-22. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:53, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

 * Regarding "It is now one of Spain's major tourist attractions, ", which is also written in the article, isn't it actually the largest tourist attraction in Spain? At least this source states that in 2014: "Over 2.4 million people visited Granada’s Moorish palace in 2014 making it the most visited tourist site in Spain.". This source also says that "In 2010, the Alhambra issued a press release that said that it was the monument most visited in Spain in 2009, with about 3 million visitors. It also said that the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona was next, and the third was the Prado Museum in Madrid.". -- Slaunger (talk) 20:40, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

 * The blurbs follow the article. If there is a change in the article, the blurb can change. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:20, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Royal Complex (Nasrid Palaces)
The Royal Complex section (3.1) has issues. Patio de Machuca; Mexuar; Fachada de Comares; Torre de Comares; Patio de Arrayanes; Baño de Comares; Patio de los Leones; Sala de Abencerrajes; Sala de los Reyes; Sala de Dos Hermanas; Patio de Lindaraja; Peinador de la Reina;
 * The section mistitled: it should be titled "Nasrid Palaces"
 * The "Royal complex" paragraph refers to "three main parts: Mexuar, Serallo, and the Harem," which is not how the Nasrid Palaces and their areas/rooms/halls are referred to by the Patronato de la Alhambra y Generalife (http://www.alhambra-patronato.es/). In fact, I'm not sure where "Mexuar, Serallo, and the Harem" comes from, as the reference to the Khan Academy lesson says that "The Alhambra's most celebrated structures are the three original royal palaces. These are the Comares Palace, the Palace of the Lions, and the Partal Palace."
 * The halls/courts, etc. listed as 3.2 - 3.5 are halls/courts, etc. within the Royal Complex (Nasrid Palaces), so at the very lest, they should be demoted to 3.1.1, 3.1.2, etc. And to get really precise, there are rooms listed that should fall under a particular palace. E.g., 3.1.1 should be Palace of the Comares and 3.1.1.1 should be the Court of the Myrtles.
 * In the Hall of the Abencerrajes, information on the Hall of the two Sisters appears, which should be pulled out and made its own section.
 * The map that you get at the Alhambra (and that you can download from the webiste) indicates the following structures in the Nasrid Palaces:

In other words, lots of problems, and I'm not sure why (based on the listed sources) this section was written like this. Can anyone support why this section is organized this way? Seeteejay (talk) 16:47, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Metal was not present very mainly
What does that mean? TomS TDotO (talk) 06:22, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Possible image for the Commons??
I found an image from the Turkish magazine Servet-i Funun No. 1347, 10 May 1917: WhisperToMe (talk) 03:24, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * https://archives.saltresearch.org/bitstream/123456789/129156/307/PFSIF9170510B002.jpg

Court of the Lions
User:R Prazeres, my edits here were to fix a broken wikilink at the Dome article, where a bot had mis-corrected the link Alhambra to link instead to Alhambra, based on similar spelling. After checking the Court of the Lions article, I assumed the rooms surrounding the courtyard should not be included there because they are part of the surrounding Palace of the Lions, rather than the courtyard. If I had noticed that the Hall of the two Sisters was also mentioned in that paragraph I would have made that a separate section as well, as was done with Hall of the Ambassadors. Long story short, I changed the wikilink in the Dome article. AmateurEditor (talk) 03:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thanks for making note of that, and yes I think that's a better solution. For what it's worth, in the future I also think the Court of the Lions article should be changed to "Palace of the Lions" (and likewise Court of the Myrtles to "Comares Palace") so that these rooms can be described in fuller detail there, since there's no reason to describe the courtyard there but not the halls directly attached to it (and it would also be in line with how the palaces are described individually in many reliable sources). Cheers, R Prazeres (talk) 04:47, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * This would be highly likely to run foul of WP:COMMONNAME, and should certainly not be done without a proper WP:RM discussion. But I don't see why the rooms onto the courtyard should not be discussed as well - this is how other famous courtyards are normally treated. Johnbod (talk) 14:21, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * They're actually quite standard names used in reliable scholarly sources (e.g. even the official guidebook of the Alhambra organises its descriptions under those names), so it would be in line with the WP:COMMONNAME policy as I see it, but I think the question would be more about the precision (and maybe naturalness) criteria, or in other words on whether editors and visitors are reading "Court of (...)" in the narrow sense or not. I don't personally read it in the narrow sense either, but that might be because I'm familiar with the palaces; whereas the current scope of those article and the comment by AmateurEditor above makes me consider that the page names lend themselves to a narrow scope for at least some readers. In the case of the Comares Palace/Palacio de Comares, in particular, the full palace also includes neighbouring elements that readers/visitors may not associate as clearly with the main courtyard, such as the Comares Baths and the "façade" in the Courtyard of the Cuarto Dorado.
 * In any case, I won't even consider making the move proposals, if at all, until after myself or others have expanded those articles with the relevant content first, at which point we can consider the logic of a name change. Cheers, R Prazeres (talk) 16:29, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Expansion of Court of the Lions article (January 2022)
I'm not really saying anything new but it's worth mentioning here that I've generally completed a major revision and expansion of the Court of the Lions article, and in the process I've added a full overview of the rooms connected to the court. In my view those rooms need to be part of that article's scope either way, as this matches how this topic is treated in any scholarly overview of the Alhambra and it also allows this article (Alhambra) to remain unburdened by large amounts of information about specific rooms. I think the scope of the topic is still pretty intuitive and unsurprising as is; the court is the centerpiece of the building and the rooms are all dependent on it to one extent or another. (The same may not be true for the Comares Palace vs Court of the Myrtles, but that'll be for another time.) I've added "Palace of the Lions" as a second name in the lead there and the relevant disambiguation page already directs to the Court of the Lions article as well. If there's disagreement on this issue though, I'd invite further discussion, perhaps preferably at the Court of the Lions talk page. Aside from that, I also invite anyone looking over the expanded article there to simply keep an eye out for any typos, awkward phrasings that could be improved, etc. (It's easy to miss these when re-reading one's own writing, especially after a long session of editing!) Cheers, R Prazeres (talk) 18:22, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Revising lead
I'm going to attempt a major revision of the lead by removing the last three paragraphs which appear to be based exclusively on the 1911 Britannica reference (Chrisholm 1911). I get why a freely-available source was used at some point, but there's been over 100 years of intense research as well as significant changes to the site itself since then, and there are various statements that don't hold up well. The information is also a little repetitive and not really written in a concise summary style per MOS:LEAD. The last paragraph is more on point but I'll try to reintegrate the same basic information in a new paragraph or two based on recent sources. R Prazeres (talk) 18:12, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Revising description sections
In the same vein, and as per the work I've been doing elsewhere, I'm rewriting much of (but not all of) the descriptions of the Nasrid Palaces and the Alcazaba. Most of it is simply unsourced. The citations that are present either don't support any of the specifics or only support one detail (in which case I've retained them for that purpose). Some of the details are clearly contradicted by reliable sources. I've already expanded and revised the articles for the Court of the Lions and the Court of the Myrtles (which corresponds to the Comares Palace, name issues notwithstanding), which now provide detailed overviews, so I'm sticking to the basics here. I plan to also make a "Mexuar" article in the future to complete the set. That should finish most of the work I personally hoped to see on this article, but there will always be more to add/revise afterward. Feel free to raise any questions or issues about this work here, if helpful. R Prazeres (talk) 20:58, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Adding new map
I've added a based on an architectural plan from scholarly sources, to more clearly identify the different structures and locations mentioned in the article (minus some individual rooms and towers covered in dedicated subarticles). I wasn't sure about how to best insert the image, though; it should be large enough to be reasonably readable and thus useful, but I tried a few options with awkward results. I settled for now on a multiple image template that also integrates the already-present Nasrid palaces map, which seemed more helpful than the alternatives, but there may be better options. I've also left the in, but not sure if it's worth having two maps with the same scope. For what it's worth, I've also uploaded a of the new map to make it easier to modify in the future. Feedback welcome. Cheers, R Prazeres (talk) 03:29, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Freely interpreted floor map of Alhambra Spain
I have created Freely interpreted floor map of Alhambra Spain and maybe it can be of use. If there is a need for, I can also create a numbered version. If anyone wants that please just ping me, thanks. --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:50, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

 * That looks great, thanks! I think we should make use of it in the future. I can't devote time to the idea now, but as a first thought, it could replace the first OpenStreetMap-based image at the beginning of the layout section . A minor advantage of the two present maps (or at least the black-and-white one I put together crudely) is that they also identify some of the outlying buildings like the Generalife and so on. If that seems like an advantage worth keeping, maybe we could have one general map that just identifies the main areas, and another one with more detail that identifies the rest. In any case, this gives us some avenues for improving the article's visuals. Cheers, R Prazeres (talk) 20:21, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @R Prazeres Just ping me if you want some other version or type of map/image. --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 20:03, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

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Lake Havasu

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Aqueducts
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