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Talk:Live (band)

Disambiguation required
Live needs disambiguation. Does this page refer to the verb "to live" or does it refer to live as in a "live performance" or "live" as in electricly active. Or, does it refer to a rock-band with the name "live"? darkside2010 14:12, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Religion
Aren't they a Christian band? FatherGuidoSarducci 01:57, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * It would appear that they are more recently, with Birds of Pray. I didn't really think of them as a Christian band before that album. muhgcee 09:48, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * hello father
 * no. although the members may have been born into christian families, live is not a christian band. i think their belief system is beyond organised religion. it is about seeing the beauty in everything. its not just a philosophy proposed by j.krishnamurthi. its a very intense way to live. or try to... without assumptions or perceptions of the things we see. their lyrics have gradually moved on from the indivual (sheperd/kaliyuga etc.) to the abstract collective (hero/heaven etc.)
 * but this again, is just my opinion so you are free to question it..

 * I've always had a hard time categorizing them myself. Some of their lyrics are explicitly Christian, but some borrow from other belief systems.  I suppose we could mention that their songs often contain Spiritual/Religious themes from various belief systems. Arianna 13:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Their studio release "Secret Samadhi" includes numerous references to Hindu / Eastern concepts. Samadhi itself is one such concept.  One of the singles from that album, "Lakini's Juice," references the kundalini concept of physical/corporeal/sexual energy - the juice of Lakini (a goddess also responsible for the creative centre).  Interestingly, the same track references or at least alludes to the Christian transubstantiation with the lines "More wine / cuz I got to have it / More skin / cuz I got to eat it."  It is safe to say they (or at least their vocalist) is heavily immersed in spiritual / mythic concepts while consistently bannering the cause of peace.  The title "Throwing Copper" suggests throwing coins into a fountain wishing for good luck.  All that noted, it would be inappropriate to call them a "Christian" band - more "spiritual"-positivists in an open sense and certainly theist inasmuch as their lyrics suggest belief in a God or greater power.  Their most famous song, "Lightning Crashes," appears to be clearly about the soul's return to earth upon death (the karmic cycle), which is in contrast with most if not all mainstream (but not necessarily Gnostic) Christianity.  It's safe to say the beliefs espoused are ambiguous but centred in a study of various world religions with an emphasis on Christianity and Hinduism/Buddhism.

 * Peace and spiritual seeking are two major themes in their work. They also give attention to amorous love, though it's not always clear whether this love is purely heterosexual, homoerotic ("Heropsychodreamer"), or love of another nature (love between man and God or, more recently and unambiguously, love of a child).

 * Another theme in their songs could be called "dark Americana." This is clear in tracks like "Shit Towne," "Waitress," "Gas Hed Goes West," "merica," and "Freaks," where they discuss the difficult love many Americans have for their country as well as the mental and physical landscape generally.--Kevinkautzman 02:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)KevinKautzman

 * Furthermore, Ed himself said at one performance, in Melbourne Australia, "I'm not a Christian but it feels good to be in the Chapel today," just before launching into the song "I Alone". Which itself, interestingly enough, is a song that is based on a story of Jesus calming the storms on a boat.  If someone reminds me, I can find the date of the concert for the former and the source for the interview where Ed says the latter.  Regardless, as Kevin Kautzman said much better than I, Live is not a Christian band but a spiritual one.  Harukaze 17:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Seriously? How about their song 'Operation Spirit'? The lyrics go... Heard a lot of talk about this Jesus. A man of love and a man of strength. But what a man was two thousand years ago Means nothing at all to me today...

There isn't an inkling of Christianity in their music. Kowalczyk follows far eastern traditions, although he probably respects all religions. He believes all religious traditions should unite as one, and works toward that goal. Their songs are very powerful, and take on strong themes, but they're not a Christian band. Please google Ed's blog before making such assertions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.188.229.55 (talk) 01:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I believe that this was brought up before, but I never saw an answer. Many of Live's songs are obviously spiritual; I think that this should be mentioned in the article. Youre dreaming eh? (talk) 03:10, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Advice: find a reliable source that makes this claim, and presents evidence. Not that I disagree, but that's the best thing to do.  Charlie - talk to me - what I've done  09:10, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Official name?
I keep on seeing LIVE and Live... which one is it? Gflores Talk 08:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

 * With these latest changes, the band's name keeps alternating between Live and LIVE. Personally, I prefer Live, but will live with the capitalized version if that's they way it is agreed upon.  I'd like to hear officially which version is correct, but it is minor enough that it shouldn't matter.  --Mtjaws 14:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

 * As far as I've seen, their albums are all listed as Līve.Shnizzedy (talk) 02:51, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Why is this article using all capitals for the band's name? Even if it's the "official" name it shouldn't be used, it's more important that the article is easy to read. It should be changed to "Live" throughout the article, with an explanation of the official spelling in the beginning of the article. /Grillo 15:13, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

 * It's not the official spelling. I'm changing it now. Antgel 02:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

 * "Official" doesn't matter, Wikipedia has rules regarding capitalization. Please do not change anything back again. Evan Reyes 00:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Most successful rock band ??
"LIVE gained international prominence in the 1990s as one of the most successful rock bands of its time." - Errrr excuse me but weren't there A LOAD of other bands far more successful than this one ? Koubiak 12:28, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, seriously, I've never even heard of them. Just seen some commercials for their two newest albums, it seems... Well, I think this should be removed anyway. It's not really the neutral presentation that Wikipedia should give, is it? --Ifrit 20:03, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
 * International prominence? Not too sure about that and I have never heard of them. -- S iva1979 Talk to me  20:13, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

 * In their native USA they aren't really popular from what I have heard, but in Europe (e.g. the Netherlands) they are really popular and can be considered one of the most successful rock bands. Klas3b 19:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

 * People need to realize that whether they have heard of a band is irrelevent on whether a band is popular. As a matter of fact, yes, Live was an incredibly successful rock band in various parts of Europe, as Klas3b mentioned.  However, it's also true that the comment was not NPOV, especially since it is very hard to back up a comment like that.  Regardless, kindly keep your knowledge or ignorance out of Wikipedia - the site is about facts, not your limited opinions. Harukaze 17:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Are they really a post grunge band?
This is the first time I heard that they're considered to be a post grunge. I listen to them a lot and I don't see any resembalence to post grunge. -- Amorphism

 * They existed before grunge hit, so maybe not. RomeoVoid 16:49, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Just about the entirety of Throwing Copper is post-grunge. -Beau99 07:52, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Secret Samadhi is post-grunge, too. In fact, pretty much all of Live's albums until Songs From Black Mountain are both alternative rock and post-grunge, but Songs From Black Mountain is both alternative rock and rock, imo. James25402 01:31, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Mental Jewelry was definitely part of the original grunge movement. I can't speak for Death of a Dictionary, but people from around Red Lion (their general area of York County) remember Public Affection's being a local grunge band in the '80s. If they merely continue in the grunge sound after its heyday, does that make them post-grunge? Blue Caper  (talk) 07:36, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

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Sub Titles
I saw the little message in the main section saying that the big block of history needed sub titles, so I split it up into sections with seperate titles. I also renamed The Live Lounge to FansofLive (Live fansite). I thought that anybody who doesn't know what Live Lounge is already isn't really told by the title, whereas the new name tells them what it is. Cheers. --Lovemonk. 16:29, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

9th Album
Should we make a page for Live's new upcoming album? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.206.67.114 (talk) 20:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I really doubt we are ready for a page for a new album. Have they even started to record yet? Has any announcement been made about it? I'm sure they will eventually release a new album, but with so little/zero info, it is best to wait on making a new page. --Mtjaws (talk) 21:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Radiant Sea Album Listing Issue
I see someone has taken it away. Shouldn't it actually be there? It was released on the same label as DOAD, and maybe didn't sell anything, but still, it's as much of an album as Awake? Maybe. --Lovemonk. (talk) 21:01, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

 * You present a good point. I was the one who initially removed Radiant Sea from the albums section. I have since relisted it under the EPs section (which I slightly modified to read "Compilation Albums & EPs"). I also renamed the "Albums" section to "Studio Albums", and consequently moved Awake from that section to the Compilation Albums section. Although Radiant Sea is being called an "album" by Live's official website, there has been an incredible amount of debate throughout the fanbase regarding the legitimacy of this labeling. Regardless of it's recognition as an album by the official site, it is essentially no more than an exclusive fanclub release of previously limited concert recordings (with the exception of the two new songs, of course). It is my belief that only full-length studio albums with at least a staggering majority of new songs should be listed under "albums". Things along the lines of "best of" albums, EPs, demo recordings, concert recordings, fanclub-only issues, and the like may be noteworthy, but they are noteworthy within their own category. I realize this may seem a contentious issue for some, and it may be met with certain dissent, but it is important to recognize the distinction between different types of releases. Swamilive (talk) 03:38, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I was going to put it back since you had removed it twice now, but think it is now in the best place within the Compilation category. Thanks for explaining it and bringing it back.  --Mtjaws (talk) 20:32, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Christian rock?
Should this band be listened as a Christian rock band? The band may just be like Creed, but there still more songs that they have that talk about faith and stuff. Would it be a good idea to label them as a Christian Rock band? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Narisguy (talk • contribs) 11:03, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

 * Rather than just adding a genre, which I find rather tiresome and pointless, some mention could be made abut the spiritual nature of some of their music, including giving examples of lyrics? It will be interesting to see how spiritual the lyrics remain if the band are "reborn" without Kowalczyk. Iangurteen (talk) 15:49, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Although they have written and performed songs steeped in spiritual themes, they are NOT a Christian rock band. I am also amazed at the ignorance... referring to Live as 'post-grunge'? Sorry, Live was around before grunge! Please people... all you have to do is a simple Google search. And people with little to no familiarity with the band shouldn't be involved in creating or editing this article. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.25.30.245 (talk) 11:33, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Release of track with new frontman
On December 21, 2011 a re-recording of All Over You featuring the new unnamed front-man was released via Facebook. This is the first time that the new vocalist has been heard. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=310463695653477&id=30887983908 I think this new information should be added to the article. Thoughts? 203.38.50.116 (talk) 04:52, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

 * I remember when that was posted and thinking, "That's Ed!" - I've just listened to it again and... "it's ED!" - I too can't wait to hear the new songs with the new vocalist...but this isn't it. Thegraciousfew (talk) 06:54, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

 * Of course it's not Ed. Are you aware that Ed Kowalczyk is not going to be part of Live's new lineup? The recording was made a few months ago. Why would Live upload a track featuring Ed's vocals when they're recording their new album with a new singer? 124.148.221.161 (talk) 04:30, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

 * Yeah, well the original link went to an alternative take of Run To The Water, with ED singing. The new link does indeed have "I Alone" with a new singer, it sounds great, but the new guy (whoever he is) is deliberately impersonating all Ed's vocal mannerisms. Let's hope he has a style of his own! Live are being deliberately vague and cryptic about the new singer, so let's wait for some concrete news before updating the page. Thegraciousfew (talk) 09:29, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Well known songs
Could someone please look up and add a list of their most well-known songs, perhaps in a list showing how long they had a song at it's highest spot in the top 100 or something? That's what I came to this wiki hoping for, but it wasn't readily available (I read the table of contents, and didn't notice the info). Thanks.

 * There is a comprehensive list of the band's single releases at Live discography which shows all chart poitions, I think that does the job? Thegraciousfew (talk) 05:52, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

http://www.angelfire.com/rock2/patdahl/interviews/York_Sunday_News.html
That link goes to an interview with Live from 1988, when they were still called Public Affection.

 * > The band has been together for four years
 * > four years
 * > four years

This proves without a doubt that Live were formed in 1984. Heepman1997 (talk) 07:35, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Kowalczyk's return?
Various clues on Live and Ed's social media indicate that Ed may be returning to Live and this information has been rightly added to the band's history on this page. However there has been no official confirmation. Please don't update lists of band members or make any definitive statements about Ed being back in the band until we have a good independent source that can be used as a reference, which will only come if the band make an official announcement. Thegraciousfew (talk) 10:01, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

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WP:OWN by Revirvlkodlaku
User:Revirvlkodlaku is showing severe WP:OWN issues here, complaining about others reverting when in reality they are blocking any change, even clear improvements. Since late December, they have

 * reverted this improvement: yes, it was unsourced, in a section already tagged as unreferenced anyway, but it was correct.

 * reverted back to a worse version (no reason that 1989 would be chosen, either 1984 when Kowalczyk joined, or less ideally 1991 when the band was renamed "Live".

 * reverted, meh

 * Reverted because they had apparently trouble understanding the quote, and insisted that they were right when I reverted them again.

Basically, they know better than everyone else, even when his reverts make the article worse. And this isn't new, in November they reverted an IP who added the three current members to the infobox ''even though at the time those members were also listed and sourced in the "band members" section and thus perfectly could be added to the infobox without repeating that source (nothing else there is sourced anyway). Fram (talk) 15:47, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Fram, you are clearly on some kind of crusade to "monitor" my work, and as our past interactions indicate, you are unwilling to engage in civil discussion with me, so I don't expect this will be a fruitful effort. Now you've gone ahead and dug up a bunch of reverts I made on this page before. I haven't delved into your allegations, as I don't have the time to invest in your private investigation. We all make mistakes sometimes, and I don't claim to always be correct about my edits. At least I don't persecute other users, however, and hypocritically reimpose sloppy edits, as you did at American Authors.
 * As relates to our latest spat—which is what we should be discussing, not digging up past edits and attributing bias where none may exist—it is clearly not an improvement, and any half-decent reader can see that. I believe the reason you insist on reverting me on it has less to do with the content itself than your own prejudice. Please provide a solid reason why the quote, cryptic as it is, should remain. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 16:00, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * If an editor can be seen reverting again and again (as even a cursory glance at the history shows), and if those reverts are at best equivalent to the change made, and at worst and too frequently removing clear improvements, then " digging up past edits" is exactly what we should do (note that all the above diffs are from November 2022 to January 2023, nothing old). Fram (talk) 16:10, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * At this present moment, I'm only interested to discuss your latest revert—Gracey's tweet. Are you willing to discuss the issue in an impartial manner? Revirvlkodlaku (talk)
 * We have at the moment two editors who think it is better to present it as a quote (making it clear who is the issue) instead of putting it in our own words only indicating one person who isn't the problem. And we have one editor who feels the tweet is confusing and the other version is clearer. Fram (talk) 17:06, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Please try to keep these exchanges impersonal. Comments like "making it clear who is the issue" are not helpful, and certainly not relevant to the issue. The version I'm reverting to isn't "my words", I didn't add the tweet in the first place. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 17:08, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * "Making it clear who is the issue" is not about you, it is about the tweet: the text of the tweet makes it clear who is the issue, who is the problematic band member, while the text you prefer doesn't. Fram (talk) 17:19, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The text you prefer, "also posted about the band's internal issues, emphasizing that Kowalczyk "is not the problem"" only indicates a defense of Kowalczyk: the full tweet "For anyone interested…..Ed is not the problem in this band….and it’s not this Chad…..and he doesn’t play bass. We have among us a person that stirs and then, no pun intended, sells drama." makes it clear that three other members aren't the problem, only the other Chad, and goes on to indicate briefly what the issue with that Chad was. It's not the best written tweet ever, but it conveys more information and doesn't require us to distill the essence. Fram (talk) 17:22, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying. That wasn't so hard, was it? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 17:44, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for restoring, too. That seemed harder. I'm not a fan of this Chad's formatting, and maybe it's within editorial discretion to fix those ellipses, could look less disjointed. It's not a crucial quote (in my eyes), so it could also just go. But if it stays, yeah, not cool for any editor to snip one of four points, then use Wikipedia's voice to say someone else emphasized it. If anyone's emphasized, it's that unnamed Chad at the end...people tend to remember the last line best. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:07, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

with the above out of the way, let's get back to the general topic of this section, your WP:OWN reverts of way too many edits here, some of them clear improvements (correcting errors, bringing the infobox up-to-date, ...), some just differences of styling or wording. Fram (talk) 15:53, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Fram, as I've stated before, I don't wish to engage in non-specific discussions of my work with you. I find your attitude condescending, and the fact that you've taken it upon yourself to "monitor" my edits is insulting. If you wish to make improvements to this article, please proceed, and if I disagree with them, we can hopefully have a civil discussion about each one. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 17:01, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * "Non-specific"? I gave specific diffs above, with explanations of what was wrong with them. How specific would you like it to be? If you think people shouldn't be condescending, then what do you call something like " That wasn't so hard, was it? ". It looks as if you just don't want your many errors and problematic behaviour being noted and discussed. Easy solution: adjust your editing (your reverts of unproblematic edits or of improvements). Fram (talk) 17:16, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Noted Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 17:56, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

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As Singapore is a small island nation with no exportable natural resources, its economic model at the time was based on added-value activities (such as factory work or sea-bourne cargo logistics) from an industrious and efficient society, which the possibility of a large percentage of the population becoming unproductive due to drug addiction posed an enormous economic threat. The Government of Singapore responded with a zero tolerance policy regarding the abuse of all types of drugs, aiming to rapidly contain the sudden heroin epidemic via new laws that proscribed harsh punishments for both traffickers (such as the death penalty) and consumers (including caning) alike.

Overview
The Misuse of Drugs Act 1973 classifies narcotic substances into three categories: Classes A, B, and C. Section 44 provides that "The Minister may, by an order published in the Gazette" add, remove, or transfer drugs among the classes. The statute's penal provisions are severe by most nations' standards, providing for long terms of imprisonment, caning, and capital punishment.

The law creates a presumption of trafficking for certain threshold amounts, (e.g.) 30 grams of cannabis. It also creates a presumption that a person possesses drugs if he possesses the keys to a premises containing the drugs, and that "Any person found in or escaping from any place or premises which is proved or presumed to be used for the purpose of smoking or administering a controlled drug shall, until the contrary is proved, be presumed to have been smoking or administering a controlled drug in that place or premises." Thus, one runs the risk of arrest for drug use by simply being in the company of drug users.

The law also allows officers to search premises and individuals, without a search warrant, if he "reasonably suspects that there is to be found a controlled drug or article liable to seizure". Moreover, Section 31 allows officers to demand urinalysis of suspected drug offenders while section 8A prohibits any citizen or permanent resident of Singapore to use any prohibited drug outside of the country, and if found guilty to be punished as if they committed that act within the country.

Thresholds
Section 17 of the Misuse of Drugs Act lists the amount of controlled drugs beyond which, the person who carries them shall be presumed to possess them for the purpose of drug trafficking unless proven otherwise:

The possession, consumption, manufacturing, import, export, or trafficking of these and other controlled drugs in any amount is illegal. Persons caught with less than the Mandatory Death Penalty amounts of these controlled substances face penalties ranging from caning (up to 24 strokes) to life in prison. Pursuant to a law change in 2009, cannabis (marijuana) and marijuana mixtures (diluted with other substances) are treated the same under Singapore law—the presumed intent is trafficking.

Class A – Part I

Some examples include:
 * Amphetamine
 * Buprenorphine
 * Cannabinol (and derivatives)
 * Cannabis (marijuana)
 * Cathinone and methcathinone
 * Cocaine (in all forms, including coca leaf)
 * Desomorphine
 * Dimethyltryptamine (DMT)
 * Ecgonine (any derivative of ecgonine which is convertible to ecgonine or to cocaine)
 * Fentanyl (and all its analogues, i.e. alphamethylfentanyl (AMF; China White), alfentanil, sufentanil, carfentanil, etc.)
 * GHB
 * Ketamine
 * Lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), and other lysergides
 * MDMA (ecstasy)
 * Mescaline
 * Methamphetamine
 * Methaqualone
 * Morphine, heroin, methadone and oxycodone
 * Nimetazepam
 * Opium
 * Psilocin and psilocybine (psilocybin mushrooms)
 * Salvinorin A (salvia divinorum)
 * Temazepam

Class B – Part II
Some examples include:

 * Acetyldihydrocodeine
 * Codeine
 * Dextropropoxyphene
 * Dihydrocodeine
 * Ethylmorphine
 * Methylphenidate (ritalin)
 * Nicocodeine
 * Phencyclidine (PCP)
 * Pholcodine
 * Zipeprol

Class C – Part III

 * Benzphetamine
 * Chlorphentermine
 * Flunitrazepam (rohypnol)
 * Mecloqualone
 * Mephentermine
 * Phendimetrazine
 * Pipradrol
 * Secobarbital
 * Triazolam (halcion)

Part IV
For the purposes of this Paragraph:

 * cannabinol derivatives means the following substances, namely tetrahydro derivatives of cannabinol and their carboxylic acid derivatives, and 3-alkyl homologues of cannabinol or its tetrahydro derivatives;
 * coca leaf means the leaf of any plant of the genus Erythroxylon from whose leaves cocaine can be extracted either directly or by chemical transformation;
 * concentrate of opium poppy-straw means the material produced when poppy-straw has entered into a process for the concentration of its alkaloids;
 * opium poppy means any plant from which morphine may be produced;
 * preparation means a mixture, solid or liquid, containing a controlled drug;
 * poppy-straw means all parts, except the seeds, of the opium poppy, after mowing.

Controlled equipment, materials or substances useful for manufacturing controlled drugs

 * Part I
 * 1-Phenyl-2-propanone also known as Phenylacetone
 * 3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl-2-propanone
 * Camazepam (may be used to manufacture temazepam) also known as (9-chloro-2-methyl-3-oxo-6-phenyl-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-4-yl) N,N-dimethylcarbamate
 * Clonazepam also known as 6-(2-chlorophenyl)-9-nitro-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-3-one
 * Diazepam (may be used to manufacture temazepam) also known as 7-chloro-1-methyl-5-phenyl-1,3-dihydro-2H-1,4-benzodiazepin-2-one
 * Ephedrine also known as (1R,2S)-2-(methylamino)-1-phenylpropan-1-ol
 * Ergometrine also known as Ergonovine or Ergobasine
 * Ergotamine also known as Ergotaman-3',6',18-trione, 12'-hydroxy-2'-methyl-5'-(phenylmethyl)-, (5'-alpha)- (9CI)
 * Estazolam (may be used to manufacture triazolam) also known as 8-Chloro-6-phenyl-4H-1,2,4-triazolo(4,3-a)-1,4-benzodiazepine
 * Isosafrole also known as 1,2-(Methylenedioxy)-4-propenylbenzene
 * Lorazepam (may be used to manufacture temazepam) also known as 9-chloro-6-(2-chlorophenyl)-4-hydroxy-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-3-one
 * Lormetazepam (may be used to manufacture temazepam) also known as 9-chloro-6-(2-chlorophenyl)-4-hydroxy-2-methyl-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-3-one
 * Lysergic acid also known as 9,10-didehydro-6-methylergoline-8-carboxylic acid
 * N-acetylanthranilic acid also known as N-Acetyl-o-aminobenzoic acid
 * Nitrazepam (may be used to manufacture flunitrazepam and nimetazepam) also known as 9-nitro-6-phenyl-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-3-one
 * Oxazepam (may be used to manufacture temazepam) also known as 9-chloro-4-hydroxy-6-phenyl-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-3-one
 * Piperonal also known as 3,4-(Methylenedioxy)benzaldehyde or Piperonylaldehyde
 * Prazepam (may be used to manufacture flutoprazepam) also known as 9-chloro-2-(cyclopropylmethyl)-6-phenyl-2,5-diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca-5,8,10,12-tetraen-3-one
 * Pseudoephedrine also known as β-Hydroxy-N-methylamphetamine
 * Safrole also known as 4-Allyl-1,2-methylenedioxybenzene
 * Part II
 * Acetic anhydride also known as Acetic oxide
 * Acetone also known as 2-Propanone or Dimethyl ketone
 * Anthranilic acid also known as o-Aminobenzoic acid
 * Ethyl ether also known as Ether or Diethyl ether or Ethyl oxide or Diethyl oxide or Ethoxyethane or 1, 1'-Oxybisethane
 * Hydrochloric acid
 * Methyl ethyl ketone also known as 2-Butanone
 * Phenylacetic acid also known as Benzeneacetic acid or a-Toluic acid
 * Piperidine also known as Hexahydropyridine
 * Potassium permanganate
 * Sulphuric acid
 * Toluene also known as Methylbenzene or Phenylmethane

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Eric Goles

Eric Antonio Goles Chacc (born August 21, 1951) is a Chilean mathematician and computer scientist of Croatian descent. He studied civil engineering at the University of Chile before taking two doctorates at the University of Grenoble in France. A professor at the University of Chile, he is known for his work on cellular automata.

Goles was born in Antofagasta, northern Chile.

In 1993, Goles was awarded Chile's National Prize for Exact Sciences. He was President of CONICYT (the Chilean equivalent of the National Science Foundation in the U.S.), and an advisor on science and technology to the Chilean government.

Goles currently teaches and does research at the Adolfo Ibáñez University.

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Nikolai Kapustin

Nikolai Girshevich Kapustin (Никола́й Ги́ршевич Капу́стин ; 22 November 1937 –2 July 2020) was a Soviet composer and pianist of Russian-Jewish descent. He played with early Soviet jazz bands such as the Oleg Lundstrem Orchestra. In his compositions, mostly for piano, he often fused jazz and classical forms.

Early life
Kapustin was born in Gorlovka, Ukraine. When he was age four, with his father fighting in World War II, his mother and grandmother moved with him and his sister to the Kyrgyz city of Tokmak. He composed his first piano sonata at age 13. From age 14, Kapustin studied piano with Avrelian Rubakh (a pupil of Felix Blumenfeld, who also taught Simon Barere and Vladimir Horowitz). Beginning in 1954, he discovered jazz, an interest which his teacher supported. Kapustin studied from 1956 with Alexander Goldenweiser at the Moscow Conservatory, graduating in 1961. He included Sergei Prokofiev's Piano Concerto No. 2 in his graduation recital.

Career
During the 1950s, Kapustin acquired a reputation as a jazz pianist, arranger and composer. He had his own quintet, which performed at an "upscale restaurant" monthly. He played as a member of Yury Saulsky's big band and later in the Oleg Lundstrem Orchestra. In his compositions, he fused the traditions of both classical piano repertoire and improvisational jazz, combining jazz idioms and classical music structures. His Suite in the Old Style, Op. 28, written in 1977, sounds like jazz improvisation but is modeled after Baroque suites such as Johann Sebastian Bach's keyboard partitas. Other examples of his fusion music are 24 Preludes in Jazz Style, Op. 53, 24 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 82, written in 1997, and the Sonatina, Op. 100.

Kapustin regarded himself as a composer rather than a jazz musician: "I was never a jazz musician. I never tried to be a real jazz pianist, but I had to do it because of the composing. I'm not interested in improvisation – and what is a jazz musician without improvisation? All my improvisations are written, of course, and they became much better; it improved them."

Among his works are 20 piano sonatas, six piano concertos, other instrumental concertos, sets of piano variations, études and concert studies.

Record labels have released several recordings of the composer performing his own music. His music has been played by leading pianists including Ludmil Angelov, Marc-André Hamelin, Frank Dupree, Masahiro Kawakami, Thomas Ang, Nikolai Petrov, Steven Osborne, Yeol Eum Son and Vadim Rudenko, and by cellists such as Enrico Dindo and Eckart Runge.

Personal life
Kapustin had two sons, one of whom is Anton Kapustin, a theoretical physicist.

Death
Kapustin died on 2 July 2020 in Moscow. He was 82 years old.

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Talk:Halifax, West Yorkshire

GA nom
Sceptre nominated this as a good article, but I think it does not qualify as such yet. It's missing a History section. Most of the sections could use beefing up and citations. --F a ng Aili 19:04, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Local information website
From Room's Dictionary of Place Names (ISBN 0 7475 0170 X)  The first part of the name is either the Old English halh (nook) or hall (rock, stone). The second part is derived from the Old English word for hair, which was feux, here used metaphorically to apply to rough hairy grass 82.47.176.254 15:34, 21 January 2007 (UTC)mikeL

More for inclusion
Speaking as a former Haligonian (though I never knew to call myself that at the time) and Halifax enthusiast I'd say there should also be coverage of: --Drewpuppy 23:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The Big 6 pub.
 * The Courier newspaper.
 * Beacon Hill (maybe).
 * Perhaps more on the Halifax building in the town centre.
 * Can't disagree with you; especially regarding the Courier. Feel free to add it, with the normal valid citions and links. Neobros 02:14, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Just to go on this page and what you just called yourself because of this page. I still live and always have lived in Halifax. I've never heard the term Haligonian. I've heard it about the Nova Scotian Halifax though. 82.38.124.61 (talk) 19:02, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Requested move 2007

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NO CONSENSUS to move page, per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 09:39, 28 October 2007 (UTC) Halifax, West Yorkshire → Halifax — This is the original Halifax and the largest by ten times compared to the second largest (Halifax, Massachusetts)—Reginmund 01:40, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Survey

 * Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with  or  , then sign your comment with  . Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

 * Strong Support - as nominator Reginmund 01:41, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Support - For reasons given. Nigholith 01:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose. The Halifax Regional Municipality (formerly the City of Halifax) is much larger and is more commonly linked. Dekimasu よ! 04:18, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - Yes, but it is however called the Halifax Regional Municipality. Reginmund 04:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It would usually be called "Halifax" by people typing something into the search box. Dekimasu よ! 05:39, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Oppose per Dekimasu, the city in Canada is far more well known and populated. There are also many other articles that "Halifax" could be referring to. TJ Spyke 04:23, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Dekimasu. Insisting that the Canadian city is not a Halifax is like claiming that the City and County of San Francisco is not San Francisco, California. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 05:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The Canadian Halifax is significant enough to make the primary title the disambig as currently. Andrewa 08:54, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Too many possible articles the user could be looking for and with contention on which should be the primary topic better to retain the dab page as Halifax. Keith D 10:40, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose. When did size become a guideline for owning the primary name space? Vegaswikian 18:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The Canadian city is much the world's foremost and best known "Halifax", now.  (That city, Halifax, Nova Scotia, is not the same thing as Halifax Regional Municipality, which is, rather, the municipal government covering Halifax County including, and of course dominated by, the city of Halifax -- but that's a whole other issue.)  Notwithstanding the greater age of the Halifax in West Yorkshire,  notwithstanding that other Halifaxes in the world are its namesakes, it is an obscure place as against the Nova Scotian city. -- Lonewolf BC 21:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I don't want to get drawn into a debate as to whether Halifax, Nova Scotia is any more or less important than Halifax, West Yorkshire.  (I had enough of that regarding Worcester, Massachusetts.....)  However, I don't think there is a primary usage here.  Within the UK, it's debatable as to whether the primary usage of "Halifax" refers to the town or to the bank.  (The shambles over the Halifax, Nova Scotia page is another issue, and is best kept separate from ths one.)  --RFBailey 22:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The current title is fine as it is. Especially considering the massive connotation and media advertising of Halifax (bank) which in the UK is referred to as:- The Halifax. Note: Although I was born in Halifax, West Yorkshire I am totally impartial. Richard Harvey 09:51, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Although the Canadians seem confused as to the proper name of the Nova Scotia city, everyone else thinks it's Halifax.  (What's the plural of "Halifax"?  "Halifaxes"?  "Halifaxen"?)  — Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 00:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The plural is "Halifaces", of course.
 * Oppose - I live less than 30 minutes from Halifax and I agree that the bank is more well known. Will (talk) 00:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:

Part of the problem is an old-fashioned, prescriptive approach taken in various places, eg the intro to Halifax Regional Municipality: The municipality is commonly called HRM and often simply, although incorrectly, as Halifax (my emphasis). Modern linguistic practice is to avoid such judgements as to what is correct, and Wikipedia naming conventions follow this descriptive approach. Andrewa 08:59, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * This was previously discussed on the talk page of one of these (maybe at Talk:Halifax, Nova Scotia?) and it was decided that such language would be taken out. I'm not sure why it's still present in that article. Dekimasu よ! 10:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * My guess is it's just that the prescriptive POV is pretty strong in some people. The bizarre thing is, those who are fondest of ordering other people around like this are generally the worst at following the rules themselves. Hang in there. Andrewa 18:42, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed Halifax Regional Municipality... we'll see how long it lasts... Andrewa 20:40, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Andrewa, as far as I can tell, the Halifax vs Halifax RM argument is unrelated to what is the primary usage of Halifax. (It needed fixing though!)  --RFBailey 22:04, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

 * IMO they're different issues but related... As has also been noted at Talk:Halifax, Nova Scotia. Good luck keeping it fixed...! And with the other issues going on surrounding the Halifax, Nova Scotia articles. Andrewa 01:07, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

This proposal is like arguing for moving London, Ontario to London since the English city is not called London (it's either City of London or Greater London). —  AjaxSmack   02:31, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Well, sort of--in that case, there's an obvious primary usage, which isn't quite true here. --RFBailey 03:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Which is why Halifax is a dab page and should stay that way. —   AjaxSmack    06:21, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
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Removing Clean-up tag
I think this article's now far surpassed the need for the clean-up tag, thanks to the many fine editors who have contributed. Please re-tag the article if you disagree. Nigholith 22:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Law enforcement
There seems to be more than meets the eye in John Taylor's poem on Hull, Halifax and Hell: The last three places in the country to implement a sheep tax were Hull, Halifax and Elland. Cloth at that time was measured by the ELL (approx 1 metre). There is a strange reference in the litany to "in hell there is an heavier tax" 22 March 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.63.176 (talk) 13:19, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Although Taylor's sequence of places is actually Hull, Halifax and Hell the popular sequence is often heard as Hull, Hell and Halifax which sounds suspiciously like Hull, Ell-and Halifax! 7 April 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.80.73 (talk) 12:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure it's "hell hull and Halifax" not Hull Halifax and Hell Hĭ uông lìng (talk) 18:03, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Organ date?
There is an inconsistency between Halifax, West Yorkshire and Halifax Parish Church: the former reports (clumsily) that the organ was installed in 1765; the latter reports 1766. --155.198.108.162 (talk) 11:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well spotted!:) I have corrected the entry in the first article and also updated the details and replaced the original reference with a better one for the second one, which I have also inserted in the first. Richard Harvey (talk) 16:48, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Requested move 2010

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No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:53, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Halifax, West Yorkshire → Halifax — The town in West Yorkshire is the original source of the word "Halifax". Crouch, Swale  talk to me   My contribs  13:36, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Halifax→Halifax (disambiguation)
 * With a hatnote for the bank and orther uses
 * This was discussed without consensus being reached three years ago: has anything changed from the views expressed then? (Yes, I know Halifax is now a minster town, but there is no reason why that should affect the argument). --ColinFine (talk) 15:01, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Oppose. Simply being the "original" Halifax should not, in my mind, be the main criterion; rather I'd ask what wikipedia users are likely to be searching for when they land at Halifax. Since there is a much larger city with the same name in Canada, and also one of the UK's major financial institutions, and a horde of lesser Halifaxes, I doubt the town in West Yorkshire should have primacy. I think it may be appropriate to point out your idea on some talkpages of other Halifax articles; have you considered this? People who watchlist Halifax, West Yorkshire might feel that it's the dominant Halifax by far, but folk watching others may disagree.
 * Wikipedia policy would seem to require disambiguation.
 * It was pretty normal for Europeans founding towns in Africa, Australasia, and the Americas to name them after towns "back home", or colonial officials - and in the following centuries the notability of each might increase or decrease dramatically. bobrayner (talk) 16:44, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Oppose, Despite being the origin of the word, the settlement named Halifax in Nova Scotia, Canada is larger and more politically important (it is the capital of its province) than the one in West Yorkshire. Perhaps if anything Halifax should redirect to Regional Municipality of Halifax instead or just be left as disambiguation as there are too many cities/towns/settlements named "Halifax". EelamStyleZ (talk) 16:46, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Not a primary topic  Pur ple  back pack 89   04:19, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose move Halifax, Nova Scotia to "Halifax" instead. Clearly more important than West Yorkshire, even in the UK, since it is where the convoys for the North Atlantic originated in WWI and WWII, keeping the UK alive and in the war. 76.66.194.212 (talk) 05:26, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose. irrespective of their relative importance (with Halifax, Nova Scotia, being considerably more important) the reality is that in North American English, and likely in Australasian English too, "Halifax" refers to Halifax, Nova Scotia and not to the original place in England (unless there's a Halifax in Oz, which there may be).  The precedent may be Boston though that may be a dismabiguation page.  "Halifax" should either be a disambiguation page, or sent to the "primary usage"....thing is, in UK/British Isles English that's not Halifax, Nova Scotia, so it seems necessary to just have a dab page; another reason to do so is the because the historic City of Halifax, Nova Scotia is now part of the Halifax Regional Municipality (within which "Halifax" still means the old core, but can refer to teh regional city in various contexts, though usually then "HRM" is what gets said).Skookum1 (talk) 06:16, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Invalid rationale. It is "primary usage" not "prior usage" that applies. See Edmonton/Edmonton, London and Boston/Boston, Lincolnshire. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 22:53, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose – I'm originally from Halifax and would love for it to be a more prominent place but the reality is that the Canadian city is larger and more prominent (especially as a seaport) although I don't think it is the primary topic. The former building society was the most notable Halifax institution, with the mighty 'Fax rugby club a good second. Therefore I think the current situation is the appropriate one with Halifax as a dab page, but I think the UK Halifax needs to be mentioned at the top as the source of the name, rather than halfway down. Green Giant (talk) 02:51, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think it should be, it is not the leading usage. If anything, it should be the Canadian Halifax that is mentioned first. 76.66.194.128 (talk) 05:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Oppose Should definitely be a disambig page. Just because a town is the originator of a term, does not mean it is the primary topic. This has often been discussed and rejected. -DJSasso (talk) 19:17, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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 * Comment why are all these WP:RM discussions being closed as "no consensus" when there is a clear consensus? I keep seeing this, and it makes no sense, over and over, a clear consensus results from the discussion but the closure is marked as "no consensus". 65.94.232.153 (talk) 06:47, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Perhaps you have failed to read the line correctly. On both proposals it actually says "no consensus to move". Which is the same as saying the proposals were not supported and the article remains as it is! Richard Harvey (talk) 13:43, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Except there is a "consensus to not move", if there is "no consensus", then it is not moved, if there is a consensus not to move, then a consensus has been established. A consensus seem to have been established. 65.95.12.136 (talk) 23:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Postcodes
Let's not get dragged into an edit war on postcodes. Has anybody got a source? Does the Royal Mail set different boundaries for "Halifax" compared to, say, local government? If the boundaries do differ, can we find a way of making this clear in the article without misleading readers? bobrayner (talk) 02:26, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Halifax has a main sorting office and the Postcodes for the area are shown in the HX postcode area article. These are what should be reflected in the infobox, which automatically wikilinks to the 'HX postcode area' article, as a standard default on wikipedia. Richard Harvey (talk) 11:50, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

 * The HX postcode area is named after Halifax, but it includes other towns - the Halifax post town is HX1-4. As this article is about the town, only the postcodes that cover areas in the town should be included - which looks like HX1-3. Peter E. James (talk) 19:08, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Coat of Arms
I've tried to put this image back, sorry if it isn't quite right please feel free to correct it. Rjstott (talk) 12:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Wainhouse Tower info
I don't agree with the deletion of info about Wainhouse Tower, just because it appears in another entry about King Cross. Surely it deserves a mention in this article? Mr Barndoor (talk) 17:04, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It's really a simple issue, The Wainhouse Tower is located in the village of King Cross, that cannot be disputed. As King Cross is a village and has it's own article the tower belongs in that article. It cannot be in two places at the same time. In same way that Shibden Hall is in Shibden, though Halifax is generally thought of as the location. St. Pauls Church is also in 'King Cross', not 'Halifax'. Richard Harvey (talk) 22:38, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * What a strange idea. We have a hierarchy of geographical areas; there is absolutely no reason why a landmark can't be mentioned in more than one. For instance, the Eiffel Tower is mentioned in Champ de Mars, 7th arrondissement of Paris, Paris, and even France.
 * If you're going to redefine Halifax so that it excludes all the named suburbs, you'll have to do a pretty drastic rewrite of the article. And knock a digit off the population figure. And then admit that the article is no longer talking about the "Halifax" which sources generally refer to.
 * Sources say that Wainhouse tower is in Halifax. bobrayner (talk) 23:52, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

 * Okay; that sounds logical :). Looking deeper into King Cross I find that the article was originally created as a redirect to the Kings Cross article in March 2006. Then in April 2008 the redirect was removed and it was labelled up as a village. With memories of playing around the base of the Wainhouse Tower as a child I assumed this to be correct. I should have remembered the idiom of not accepting everything written in 'Wikipedia' to be correct. It transpires that 'King Cross' was never a village, but was a collection of small hamlet's and fields and part of the parish of Halifax. In 1846 King Cross became a Parish in its own right, with a church built there in 1847, which was demolished in 1930, after the current St Paul's was built in 1911. What I now suggest is that the article be redone as a Civil Parish article. Does anyone have any comments on or objections to that? Richard Harvey (talk) 14:14, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Treating King Cross as a civil parish sounds reasonable to me. Fill your boots! bobrayner (talk) 14:28, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Notable Haligonians
The list of Notable Haligonians was deleted from this article by jza84 on the 21st of February 2010, on the grounds that it was "unsourced". It was replaced with a link to a page of notable people from Calderdale. That page consists largely of people from Todmorden, often of questionable notability. A mountain-biking journalist? Notable? I argue that if a list item links to a page for a person, and that page is sourced, then the list item is sourced. I've restored the list of Notable Haligonians. Mr Barndoor (talk) 13:31, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Having been away and just got to your question on the List of people from Calderdale page and replied there. Basically every entry on the list should have its own reliable source in this article and not rely on the wikilink. Keith D (talk) 20:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You don't mention any applicable Wiki policies, but I'll take your word for it. I'll put references into the list when time permits. The List of people from Calderdale page is not an appropriate replacement for the list of Notable Haligonians, though - it's largely concerned with Todmordonians, and has a strange view of what constitutes notability and "from Calderdale". Is Dennis Healey's father notable for anything except having a son? Why is Antony Booth on the list when he's not from Calderdale? Mr Barndoor (talk) 12:48, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that what they were trying to do was to remove the lists from the individual pages and put them into a single list but failed to complete the job properly. Personally I would have gone for a list per major location and put the smaller places in the Calderdale list. One way would be to create a List of people from Halifax, West Yorkshire article, if there are more than a dozen entries, and use a main link from this article. The list can then grow without affecting the main article on the place and is more acceptable for any possible GA or FA submission for the Halifax article. Keith D (talk) 13:32, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Haligonians from Yorkshire?
The article refers to people from Halifax as "Haligonians". I have consulted people born and bred in Halifax, and they say that they have never heard "Haligonians" as a term for people from Halifax, Yorkshire, only for people from Halifax, Nova Scotia. Is there a reliable source for the use of the term for people from Halifax, Yorkshire? --Mhockey (talk) 11:45, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

 * Well I was born and bred in Halifax and certainly have heard of the phrase. Note the section above referring to Notable Haligonians. See this article from the Halifax Evening Courier:- . There is also something mentioned, in replies by local residents, when the term Halifaxian was used in the Halifax Evening Courier letters page here:- Save this local icon, also as a reply on another sports article here:-, both of which confirm the term is known and used. The word is also used, in the Financial Times here:- . Also note:- . Richard Harvey (talk) 13:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, that is very helpful. The Halifaxians/Haligonians I know left the place quite some time ago, like the guy who wrote to the Courier from Australia. What seems to have happened is that the term Haligonian has gained currency in the last 20 or 30 years (I suspect influenced by Canada). It would be interesting to add something to the article about this.--Mhockey (talk) 22:16, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

John Holdsworth & Co. Ltd.
Surprising there is no mention of John Holdsworth & Co. Ltd. and particularly the Shaw Lodge Mills. This impressive chimney still standing. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:12, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Halifax and District Organists Association
Is this addition really "promotion advertising"? Are they even a money-making commercial venture? I'm truly amazed. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:11, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 17:01, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Large town?
Just to note that Calderdale Council here describes Halifax as "a very attractive, busy large town" (page 23). Martinevans123 (talk) 18:38, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

"Halifax"
The usage of "Halifax" is under discussion, see Talk:Halifax.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:20, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Redirect
i can't do it for some reason but this page should be redirected to Halifax, England since there is only one settlement with that name in UK the other is Nova Scotia a different country. West Yorkshire is a county not a country. It's like using Birmingham as the present for the city than Alabama's or New York as the present for York despite York in England. DragonofBatley (talk) 00:55, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * ...because there already is a Halifax, England redirect page and, if like me, you do not have the correct rights on Wikipedia, you cannot overwrite a redirect page. You need someone with admin rights to effect these changes, as we have two redirects (Halifax, England and Halifax, England (United Kingdom)), and also Halifax, United Kingdom as a main page., can you help, please; assuming that Halifax, England is the proper naming convention (which I think it is)...? Thanks. The joy of all things (talk) 04:56, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @The joy of all things The correct name is the longstanding name of Halifax, West Yorkshire.  Pam  D  05:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * See WP:ENGLANDPLACE: "Where disambiguation is required, placename, ceremonial county is normally used. For example, Halling, Kent.".No reason to move. Pam  D  05:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, forgetting my guidance; I was thinking about Railway stations where you only disambiguate with a county level if there is another railway station of that name within England (Willington railway station (Durham) vs Willington railway station (Bedfordshire) and Willington railway station). As there is only one Halifax in England (bar the area of Ipswich), I assumed it would be the same for locations such as Perth, Australia, vs Perth, Scotland, where the country is used, Scotland, instead of the region (Perth and Kinross). The joy of all things (talk) 13:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @The joy of all things Ah now, if you're interested in disambiguating railway stations please have a look at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (UK stations) - should disambiguating railway lines be abbreviated or spelled out? The examples given in the guideline have both been moved to non-comply with the guideline. Pam  D  13:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @The joy of all things But it's interesting: Place name disambiguation is different from most other disambiguation, where you'd usually go for the broadest disambiguating category: "Jane Smith (swimmer)" if she was the only one, rather than "Jane Smith (20th-century English swimmer)". Even if Halifax is the only one in England we use the narrower disambiguation of ceremonial county (and most certainly not "(United Kingdom)"). And I see that Perth is accounted for in an exception in WP:SCOTLANDPLACE which doesn't occur in WP:ENGLANDPLACE: "Exceptions include: The number of larger settlements or islands that are likely to be well known outside of the region, that also require disambiguation such as Perth, Scotland, and Jura, Scotland. Wow, it's hardly surprising that no-one remembers the rules! Pam  D  13:57, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

 * I requested the reversal of the undiscussed move at WP:RM, and this page has now been moved back to its correct title of Halifax, West Yorkshire, from its temporary incorrect name of Halifax, United Kingdom. Please do not move it again without discussion. Pam  D  07:21, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Agree this should remain Halifax, West Yorkshire, the standard "place, county". The only exception to use "England" is if there was a Halifaxshire, although Lancaster, Lancashire still exists despite that. Scotland is treated differently so their guides don't apply to England. No place article uses "United Kingdom" AFAIAA.  Dank Jae  11:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * There is another in England that might not be notable namely there are links at Ipswich engine shed and Orwell (1817 ship) to Halifax, Ipswich.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:34, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Crouch, Swale I looked at those two: I don't think either has even enough info to be worth an entry on the Halifax disambiguation page, but you could try to concoct something! Pam  D  17:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I can't find anything on it in VOB or the Domesday Book and searching on Google is difficult due to the bank, it could perhaps be worthy of a mention in a larger article but it probably doesn't need a separate article but in any case the county and not the country is the correct qualifier even if unique in England.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 17:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

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Guy Forget

Guy Forget (born 4 January 1965) is a French tennis administrator and retired professional player. During his career, he helped France win the Davis Cup in both 1991 and 1996. Since retiring as a player, he has served as France's Davis Cup team captain.

Career
Forget first came to the tennis world's attention as an outstanding junior player who won the French Open junior title in 1982. He turned professional later that year.

His breakthrough year on the professional tour was 1986 when he made it to the fourth round of Roland Garros, his best grand slam at that point, and won his first top-level singles title in Toulouse, where both his father and grandfather had won, respectively in 1966 and 1946, and where he won again in 1991 and 1992. He was also part of the French team which won the World Team Cup. Forget also won six doubles titles in 1986, reaching his career-high doubles ranking of World Number 3 in August that year, finishing in the runner-up spot with partner Yannick Noah at the 1986 ATP Tour World Championships tournament.

In 1987, Forget and Yannick Noah finished runners-up in the men's doubles at the French Open. In 1990, Forget partnered with Jakob Hlasek to win the ATP Tour World Championships doubles title.

1991 was the most memorable year of Forget's career. He won six singles titles that year, the biggest coming at the ATP Masters Series events in Cincinnati and Paris. In both finals, he defeated Pete Sampras. He reached his career-high singles ranking of World Number 4 in March that year.

Forget was a member of the French team which won the 1991 Davis Cup. In the final, France faced the United States. Forget teamed up with Henri Leconte to win the doubles rubber, and then won the decisive singles rubber against Pete Sampras as France shocked the heavily favoured US team to win 3–1.

1996 was another notable year in Forget's career. Partnering Jakob Hlasek, he again finished runner-up in the men's doubles event at the French Open. He also won what proved to be his last career singles title in Marseille. For a second time, he was on a French team which won the Davis Cup. In the final, he teamed-up with Guillaume Raoux to win a critical doubles rubber, as France defeated Sweden 3–2.

Forget played for France's Davis Cup team for 12 years, compiling a 38–11 record.

Forget retired from the professional tour in 1997. During his career, he won a total of 11 top-level singles titles and 28 doubles titles. His career prize-money earnings totalled US$5,669,934.

After retiring as a player, Forget served as France's Davis Cup team captain. He also served as France's Fed Cup team captain from 1999 to 2004; his best result was France's performance in 2003 (with a squad including Mary Pierce, Amélie Mauresmo, Émilie Loit & Stéphanie Cohen-Aloro) when they defeated USA in the final. However, he resigned in 2004 to focus on his Davis Cup duties, and the French team then lost to Russia in the final (when Marion Bartoli & Émilie Loit lost to Anastasia Myskina & Vera Zvonareva in the last, deciding doubles match).

In 2011, the International Tennis Federation (ITF) presented him with its highest accolade, the Philippe Chatrier Award, for his contributions to tennis.

He joined the directing committee of the French Open in 2011, and in 2012 he became director of the Masters of Paris Bercy.

In 2016, he became director of the French Open after the dismissal of Gilbert Ysern.

To ensure he will never be forgotten, Forget has been immortalized in the song "Guy Forget" by the band Phish, with the lyrics "I never met a man I could not forget, except for Guy Forget".

Personal life
Forget married Isabelle Chassande-Barrioz-Chabrel in 1989. The couple has two sons, Mathieu and Thibault. Thibault has also played professional tennis.

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Did the Commonwealth of Nations call on their members to pass these Acts? 205.217.105.2 14:23, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Andrei Pavel

Andrei Pavel (born 27 January 1974) is a Romanian tennis coach and former professional tennis player. He achieved a career-high ATP singles ranking of world No. 13 and won three titles, including the 2001 Canada Masters. He also reached a career-high in doubles of No. 18 and won six doubles titles.

Early life
Andrei began playing tennis at age eight, and moved to Germany at age sixteen.

Career
In 2001 he captured his biggest title, the Masters Series 2001 Canada Masters in Montreal, Canada defeating Patrick Rafter.

In 2002, while he was about to play a quarterfinal at Roland Garros, he jumped into a car and made an express round-trip to Germany to attend the birth of his son. It equalled to 1000 miles in 24 hоurs, in the pouring rain with... Àlex Corretja waiting for his return on the Central. "It's a bit odd that these two events overlapped, said the Romanian. But no matter the sporting challenge: I would not have missed the birth of Marius for the world. The whole story with the rain was a godsend for the press, but for me, it didn’t really made a difference: I would have gone no matter what."

In 2006, Pavel played what John McEnroe considers to be the best first round match at a Grand Slam he has ever seen at the US Open in August 2006, where he lost to Andre Agassi in four sets; 6–7(4), 7–6(8), 7–6(6), 6–2; taking three and half hours. Had Pavel won, it would have been Agassi's last match in a professional tournament.

In 2009, he played his last singles match in his homeland tournament in Bucharest against Pablo Cuevas of Uruguay. At the same tournament, he also played two more exhibition matches, one facing Goran Ivanišević, while in the other he paired up with Ilie Năstase against Mansour Bahrami and Yannick Noah.

He attended the Olympic Games four times, and played for 20 years on the Romania Davis Cup team. He became the captain of the team in 2009.

Coaching
Currently coaching Nicholas David Ionel, Stefan Palosi and Sebastian Gima. He also coached ATP Tour players Horia Tecău, Benjamin Becker, Marius Copil, Filip Jianu, the Romanian Davis Cup Team, and worked with Jelena Janković, Tamira Paszek and Simona Halep on the WTA Tour.

Personal information
After 25 years of living in Germany, he moved to the US state of Arizona. Now he lives in Bucharest, Romania.

Singles performance timeline
2004 US Open counts as 3 wins, 0 losses. Roger Federer walkover in round 4, after Pavel withdrew because of a back injury, does not count as a Pavel loss (nor a Federer win).

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Catch Without Arms

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:22, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Catch Without Arms
An album which is going to be released. Delete. Sjakkalle 14:31, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete may be speculation. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball or a place for reviews. --InShaneee 16:18, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Dsmdgold 21:59, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. And there is the possibility its contents might change before it is released. Zzyzx11 | Talk 22:44, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable (yet). Megan1967 10:17, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Vlad M V  ٭ talk 15:20, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Dan Heisman

Dan Heisman (born July 8, 1950) is a United States Chess Federation National Master, author and instructor.

Education
Heisman graduated from Hatboro-Horsham High School in Pennsylvania as the co-valedictorian in 1968, and was elected to the school's hall of fame in 2007. He attended Caltech and transferred to Penn State in 1969. In 1971 Heisman graduated at the top of his class earning a B.S. in mathematics, and in 1983, again at the top of his class with a 4.0 G.P.A., received his master's degree in engineering, both from the Pennsylvania State University.

Early career
Heisman began his career as an engineer and worked in that capacity with several organizations, including the Naval Air Development Center and Intermetrics, Inc. Later, Heisman became a Registered Investment Adviser in Pennsylvania. He has been a full-time chess instructor and author since 1996.

Chess career
Heisman is the two-time open chess champion of Philadelphia (1973 and 1976), and the Philadelphia Invitational Chess Champion (1973). His Penn State team won the U.S. Amateur Team Championship in 1972. He is rated over 2200 by both the United States Chess Federation and FIDE, but is currently inactive as a tournament player. Heisman is a member of the International Computer Games Association and worked at both Deep Blue versus Garry Kasparov matches (1996 and 1997).

Heisman authors the award-winning Novice Nook column, aimed at improving adults, for the popular Chess Cafe Web site. He has also written ten books on chess, including Elements of Positional Chess Evaluation, Everyone's 2nd Chess Book, and Looking for Trouble. His most recent book, Is Your Move Safe, won the Chess Journalists of America's 2016 Best Instructional Book.

Heisman is well known throughout the Philadelphia chess scene. His chess activities include promoting local chess, hosting a chess radio show "Ask the Renaissance Man" on ICC Webcast, and organizing events like the Philadelphia Championship and Philadelphia Junior Championship. He is currently a member of the Main Line Chess Club and the SE Scholastic Coordinator for the Pennsylvania State Chess Federation. He maintains an extensive web page which provides information on Philadelphia area chess and many articles on chess improvement. Heisman is a chess tutor and has taught radio DJ Howard Stern. He helped mentor the 2007-08 National High School champion Dan Yeager, who attended his old high school (Hatboro-Horsham High School).

Personal life
Heisman is related to John Heisman, the football coach who left the endowment for the Heisman Trophy. Dan Heisman's paternal great-grandfather, Aaron, was John Heisman's first cousin.

Heisman is married to Shelly Hahn. His first wife, Susan "Holly" Hollis Bloom Heisman, died of breast cancer in 1994; they had one son, Delen, a graduate of Carnegie Mellon University. Heisman was born in Willow Grove, Pennsylvania in 1950 and currently lives in Wynnewood, Pennsylvania.

He is a member of the Society for American Baseball Research and had a baseball newsletter, "Baseball's Active Leaders". His hobbies include backgammon, science fiction, collecting comic books, and following the Philadelphia sports teams.

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Category talk:Malware

Known programs
Is there to be so subcategory Malware:Known_Programs ?

Currenly in Malware category there are link to backdoor (which is a class of programs) and such programs like NetBus or Sub7 or BackOrifice - that are examples of that class of programs. Imho that mixing is not nice.

Add another entry
I found this annoying program.

Can you guys add another entry for WinAntivirus2006 and SystemDoctor?

Oh, and ErrorScan?

BitComet is not malware
Why is BitComet in this category? It does contain ads, so by the loosest definition of the word it is adware, but that does not make it malware. I'm removing it pending an explaination, which I will not listen to anyway. That will be all. 72.186.99.225 02:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

What about a Category:Computer viruses used in cyberwarfare?
That category would contain all malware developed for or used in cyberwarfare (opposed to cybercrime).

--Fixuture (talk) 15:36, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

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Kenneth Harkness

Kenneth Harkness (byname of Stanley Edgar; November 12, 1896 – October 4, 1972) was a chess organizer. He is the creator of the Harkness rating system.

Life and career
He was born in Glasgow, Scotland. He was Business Manager of the United States Chess Federation from 1952 to 1959. He was also the editor of Chess Review, which merged into Chess Life.

He had lived in Boca Raton, Florida. He became an International Arbiter in 1972. He was a member of the FIDE Permanent Rules Commission.

Harkness was responsible for introducing Swiss system tournaments to the United States, and also introduced the Harkness rating system, which was a precursor to the Elo rating system. One method of tiebreaks in Swiss system tournaments is named after him. In the Harkness Method, players tied on points are ranked by the sum of their opponents' scores discarding the top score and the bottom score. For his services, Harkness is in the U.S. Chess Hall of Fame.

With Irving Chernev, Harkness co-wrote An Invitation to Chess. He was responsible for a number of the first American chess rulebooks.

Harkness died on a train in Yugoslavia, on his way to Skopje to be an arbiter at the Chess Olympiad.

Rating system
Harkness devised a rating system that was used by the US Chess Federation from 1950 to 1960. When a player competes in a tournament, the average rating of his competition is calculated. If the player scores 50% he receives the average competition rating as his performance rating. If he scores more than 50% his new rating is the competition average plus 10 points for each percentage point above 50. If he scores less than 50% his new rating is the competition average minus 10 points for each percentage point below 50.

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Bruges, Gironde

Bruges (Bruge) is a commune in the French department of Gironde, region of Nouvelle-Aquitaine (formerly Aquitaine), southwestern France. It is located north of Bordeaux.

Toponymy
The homography with Bruges (Belgium) is purely coincidental. The place-name comes from Gasconic bruche, with a plural -s meaning "bushes", "scrubs".

People

 * Anthony Moura-Komenan footballer
 * Mathieu Valbuena footballer, currently playing for Olympiacos FC

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Cymanfa Ganu

A Cymanfa Ganu (, Singing Festival) is a Welsh festival of sacred hymns, sung with four-part harmony by a congregation, usually under the direction of a choral director.

The Cymanfa Ganu movement was launched in 1859 at Bethania Chapel in Aberdare, where it was pioneered by the Reverend Evan Lewis.

In Wales, cymanfaoedd canu are held each year in many villages and towns throughout the country. Some have more than one Cymanfa Ganu a year, as often many separate chapels hold their own. Some large annual events occur in some chapels and take place at festivals such as the National Eisteddfod and the Llangollen International Musical Eisteddfod. Some are occasionally held in theatres and concert halls. Cymanfaoedd Canu are held across the world – wherever members of the Welsh diaspora live, significantly in Y Wladfa (Chubut Province, Argentina), e.g. Trelew and Gaiman, where there were significant Welsh settlements from the mid-19th century. In some of these areas Patagonian Welsh is still in daily use, together with Argentine Spanish. Outside of Wales, in the UK there are Cymanfaoedd Canu in London, parts of the West Midlands and other areas where there are still evangelical chapels using the medium of Welsh.

The preservation of the Cymanfa Ganu as a unique feature of Welsh culture is being supported by a number of Welsh cultural associations, such as the New Zealand National Gymanfa Ganu Association and the Welsh North American Association (North America).

North American Gymanfa Ganu
Once a year, a four-day North American Festival of Wales is held in North America over the Labor Day weekend. The festival starts on Thursday night with an opening ceremony and concert. The weekend continues with an evening banquet sponsored by the North America Wales Foundation on Friday and a Saturday concert, generally featuring a Welsh male voice choir and soloists, both from Wales.

Sunday is the defining day of the four-day festival which begins with a bilingual church and memorial service. After a brief intermission, this service is followed by afternoon and evening sessions of the Gymanfa Ganu itself. A unique feature of the gymanfa ganu is the seating separation of alto, soprano, tenor, and bass singers into sections for the four-part harmony singing. And while the Gymanfa Ganu is conducted with the dignity of a church service, it is not unknown for the musical conductor to stop the singing when one or more of the voice sections wanders from the desired harmony and needs special attention.

Interspersed between the formal proceedings are frequent sessions of spontaneous singing of favorite hymns. A Welsh marketplace, offering Welsh products, artifacts, souvenirs, recordings, and books, is also available during the days of the festival. The Welsh North American Association is the main organizational body responsible for putting on the event.

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What on Earth is a 'professional wrestling valet'? Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 14:36, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * See Manager (professional wrestling) --Naha|(talk) 20:15, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Real?
Its hard to tell when the article is describing the fictional world of wrestling and real life. If anyone knows which is which, feel free to fix it. Itsmeiam 03:38, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * As with all wrestling articles, all the information describing their professional wrestling career is kayfabe unless otherwise noted. Information in early life, personal life, and other media sections are about the real-life person, not the character. Nikki311 03:44, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Has Terri Runnels ever actually done a swinging DDT? also i've seen her do a frankensteiner but not a Hurricarana.

yes she has done a swinging DDT. In her match with Trish Stratus, which Stratus later won by executing her running bulldog. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.28.110 (talk) 08:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

She also done a swinging DDT to help Stephanie McMahon win the womans title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.134.15 (talk) 04:08, 14 March 2010 (UTC) Terri Runnells did not help Stephanie win the women's title that was Tori and the manoevur was a ddt Syxxpackid420 (talk) 12:58, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Tyree Clowe
Terri and Ty broke up in late 2008!! Now she is dating a man named Phillip! Check her myspace page! Terri's MySpace --Krazyj2010 (talk) 22:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)Krazyj2010™
 * I looked on that page and saw nothing about a man named Phillip. Where is it exactly that you see it? Nikki  ♥  311  00:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Her pictures,in the Mic. album.Her and Ty broke up in like November and she was single for a while then her and Philip got together.He has two kids,a boy and a girl,who are also in the album.Philip sister is #1 in Terri's tops. --Krazyj2010 (talk) 04:16, 22 January 2009 (UTC)Krazyj2010
 * I looked through the album and saw some pictures of her with a man named Philip. However, the text says nothing about breaking up with Ty or dating Philip. Nikki  ♥  311  01:56, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Also,Ty used to be in her Myspace tops,#1,and now she deleted him from her myspace.I am a regular visitor to her page and she deleted Ty,took "In a relationship" off abnd put single and now she's "in a relationship" again,with Philip.Go on Philip's myspace:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=430302520    --Krazyj2010 (talk) 02:09, 23 January 2009 (UTC)krazyj2010
 * To add it to the page, she'll have to say it in an interview or it has to be in an article. All this "she deleted him and added him on myspace" isn't proof enough. Plus, it is circumstantial at best. She could have had a fight with Ty, so that's why she deleted him and changed her status to single. Philip could be a friend. There are too many "coulds". To be considered a reliable source, it has to be more explicitly stated. Nikki  ♥  311  02:18, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

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Bruges-Capbis-Mifaget (Brutges, Capbis e Mieihaget) is a commune in the Pyrénées-Atlantiques department in southwestern France.

People from the commune are called "Brugeois" in French.

Geography
Bruges-Capbis-Mifaget is situated on 16.55 km2 of rolling hills in the far foothills of the Pyrenees. It is located on the east side of the department, 25 km southeast of Pau. Bruges-Capbis-Mifaget is accessible by departmental routes 35, 232, 287, and 335.

Bordering communes

 * Haut-de-Bosdarros to the north
 * Arros-de-Nay to the northeast
 * Lys to the northwest
 * Asson to the south and east
 * Arthez-d'Asson to the southeast
 * Louvie-Juzon to the southwest

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