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Talk:Pope Benedict XVI/Archive 4

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Please add new archivals to Talk:Pope Benedict XVI/Archive08. Thank you. Bratsche talk random 23:20, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

WORKS SECTION HAS TO GO!
Ok, can we talk about removing the Works section? 1) 80% of it is not in English 2) it's a direct copy of the de version

If someone actually wants to translate it, that'd be fine too. But the page is already getting too big, and that list is huge already -- and completely worthless to non-German speakers. --Quasipalm 21:40, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Page lock
Please don't lock this page. See archived discussion and Requests for page protection --SqueakBox 17:05, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

Ten Languages?
Since only five languages are presently listed, can this claim be corroborated or is it spurious? Whig 15:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * He started his career as a university professor at the age of 30/31 and since every german priest has to learn old greek and hebrew I'm sure he has good reading abilities in these two ancient languages (Latin however is spoken fluently by him, quite singular even among the cardinals). As a rumour I can add that he speaks spanish and polish and perhaps portugese? That was said in TV, but I can't remember exaclty... Soky 16:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

All I can say for listening an audio archive on radio today, is that he is fluent in French. 68.165.99.171 17:51, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Looking around, the only firm number I've seen for languages he's fluent in is four; those are probably German, Italian, French, and English; he certainly knows a great deal of Latin and has some sort of reading knowledge of Ancient Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic; he probably also knows Spanish. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he knows another language or even a few more, making it very likely he knows ten languages. For the time being, though, we might as well just hedge our bets and avoid a specific number.Kevin M Marshall 20:05, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

First German Pope since 1523 controversy: proposed rewording
This has created a fantastic debate about whether Pope Adrian VI can be considered the last German pope before Benedict XVI, or if it was Victor II from the 11th century as many news sources are claiming. Since it has to do with whether Adrian VI was Dutch or German (or both), I'd love to see anyone interested in the debate continue it on the Pope Adrian VI talk page, since it will get lost in the archives here. -Eisnel 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Who knows how long an individual will live, but, the average age of death for a pope in the last 250-years (17 previous popes since 1750) is 78 years, 123 days. Benedict XVI is 78 years, 3 days old on April 19, 2005. Reubenbarton 08:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

We shouldn't use the word "German" for anything dating from before 1871, as it can be quite controversial. The word "German" had a broader meaning before 1871, but since 1871 it really refers only to the modern German state. In Germany, people who call "Deutsch" the Austrians, Swiss, or, for that matter, the Dutch people, are connoted as being in favor of a "Großdeutschland". The idea of a Großdeutschland was definetly discarded with the creation of a small German Reich by Bismarck in 1871 (small because not including Austria or the German-speaking part of Switzerland), and it was only the Nazi who briefly revived the idea of a Großdeutschland. So let's not use the word German unduly. On the other hand, we could use the word "Germanic", which is perfectly neutral, and applies totally to the Netherlands. Be also aware that if you say that Benedict XVI is the eight German pope, that means you count Stephen X (1057-1058) as German. Stephen X was the son of Gozelon (aka Gothelo), of the House of Ardennes, who ruled the county of Verdun, as well as other nearby areas, essentially Romance speaking areas. So calling Stephen X German is perhaps even more controversial than saying Adrian VI was German. Saying Stephen X had Germanic heritage, on the other hand, is ok, as he was desceding from Frankish/Germanic ancestors, like most of the dukes and counts of France, and was blood related to both the Capetian Kings of France and the Ottonian Emperors of the Holy Roman Empire.

That's why I propose the following wording: "Benedict XVI is the first pope born within the current borders of Germany since Victor II (1055-1057), and the first pope with Germanic heritage since Adrian VI (1522-1523), who was born in what is now the Netherlands. Pope Benedict XVI is the eigth pope with Germanic heritage." I think this sounds as neutral as we can do. Please let me know what you think. Hardouin 12:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This is silly - while I agree that use of "German" can be awkward for earlier time periods, your suggestion would mean that we can't call, say, Goethe, a German. A rule which produces absurd results is clearly not a good rule. As to "Germanic heritage," that's also deeply problematic - many of the French and Italian popes will have had Frankish, Norman, or Lombard blood. john k 13:34, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Goethe was born and lived within the current borders of Germany. That's quite different from Adrian VI and Stephen X. Besides, I am not proposing a "rule" as you call it, I am proposing a rewording of the article, so please comment the rewording I proposed. Hardouin 14:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

''Goethe was born and lived within the current borders of Germany. That's quite different from Adrian VI and Stephen X'' - well, what about Kant? ;-) a German philosopher, but born and lived in Königsberg, now in Russia, not within the current borders of Germany. Anyway, I think that your proposed rewording is good and clear and everyone should be able to live with it :-). Gestumblindi (currently not at my own PC and not logged in)

 * Other opinions on the rewording? Hardouin 17:01, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Quit silliness, Hardouin!

Good discussion boards
Maybe someone can provide links to good discussion boards where opinion about the pontificate is welcome?

Try here? You could start something, I think. --SqueakBox 17:55, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

I recommend this site Rangeley 21:36, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Restoring the Hitler Youth content
Someone keeps changing this language. Saying he "had to join" is inaccurate. The previous language was good. Can this be reverted?

Whig, please explain why you think it is inaccurate; please give references. DJ Clayworth 18:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't intend to say that "Benedict XVI was a Nazi" and I think that could not be said without strong supporting evidence that I don't possess or claim to know of. In other words, Benedict XVI may very well have felt compelled by his circumstances and the existence of laws purporting to require his actions. Still, they were his actions, and his actions should not be stated as compulsions, but as choices made under very difficult circumstances. The fact that we all have done things we may have felt obliged to do while feeling opposed, does not change the fact that we did them and we acknowledge this. So state the facts, and the circumstances, but it is inappropriate POV for the Wikipedia project to offer apologetics, only provide the information without unattributed commentary. Whig 19:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

So you intend to include data on the fact that the man uses the rest-room occasionally? Perhaps the relevance of the inclusion you are intent on making is at issue. plain_regular_ham 19:10, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * You equate joining the Hitler Youth with using the rest room? In that case, the whole mention of him having joined should be dropped altogether. As in, "At 9pm last night, he had to use the facilities" would be irrelevant data. But, he joined the Hitler Youth, this is undisputed fact, and if it is relevant at all, which many people think is, then it should be presented neutrally. This is an encyclopedia not an apologetic. Whig 19:18, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * It is indeed an encyclopedia. Not a platform to discredit people without good reason.  I'll stand by for your fair and reasonable inclusions of relevant information. plain_regular_ham 19:23, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Fair enough. I have posted my proposed change to neutral POV without otherwise adding or removing statements of fact currently posted. Whig 19:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ratzinger was never a Nazi. He was in the Hitler Youth, yes, back when membership was compulsory, but he was never a member of the Nazi party; his family opposed Adolf Hitler's regime. This has been mentioned in a recent Yahoo! News article. Dr Archeville 20:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Membership in the Hitler Youth wasn't compulsory, but was needed to get a grant for studies. -- till we ☼ ☽ | Talk 20:31, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

According to the Hitler Youth article, membership was indeed compulsory after 1938. I have restored this information, as it's a little misleading to just say 'he joined the Hitler Youth'. NPOV sometimes means you have to include things. --Spudtater 21:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

His Holiness
I re-added the style His Holiness (see article), which is used for current (as opposed to non-current) popes. This is analogous to using "His/Her Royal Highness", "Sir", "Duke", "President", etc.

 * This is poor style for an encyclopedia. We do not say Her Royal Highness Queen Elizabeth -- we give the title of her office as Queen without honorifics. By the same token, the title of Benedict's office should be given without the honorific His Holiness. Whig 20:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I had to check myself and I was wrong, we *do* say Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II although whether this is well-advised, I still say it is not. In any case, we should be consistent and I will let the editors make the appropriate judgments for both (all) of these cases. Whig 20:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It is his proper title, this has been discussed before. It isnt a point of view, its a title that he holds.Rangeley 21:00, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Lock the picture
someone keep's changing it to the empire from starwars.
 * You cannot just lock the picture. Just keep watching and revert, --SqueakBox 18:40, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * You can lock the specific picture from it being changed, but someone can always upload a different one, under a new name and replace the original image on the article. Zscout370 19:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * You can only lock articles, not individual pictures in an article. Anyway, I've banned 4 anonymous vandals in the last half hour from editing for 24 hours, so hopefully that might cut down on the vandalism for a while. -- Arwel 19:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Good job Arwel! Zscout370 19:38, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

German pope again
Someone has restored the awful

 * [Benedict XVI] is the first German pontiff since Adrian VI (15221523), who was born in the Netherlands of German descent. Benedict XVI is the eighth German pope; the first was Gregory V (996999).

language. This is by far the worst way we could possibly explain this. In the first place, I've never seen any evidence that Adrian VI was "of German descent" in the sense of "descended from inhabitants of present-day Germany. He was born in the Netherlands which was then considered to be German. That's quite different.  Secondly, given that many sources are listing Victor II as the most recent German pope, it is irritating to me that the new version doesn't list him, but lists Gregory V as the first German pope.  Thirdly, listing eight German popes is problematic - this means we include not only Adrian VI, about whom there is disagreement, but also Stephen X, in a similarly dubious condition.  Why can't we just list both Adrian VI and Victor II as potential "last German popes," and explain that Adrian VI was from what is now the Netherlands, which was then seen as Germany, while Victor II was from within the territory of modern Germany?  Why is this controversial? john k 18:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * It was changed to "is the first German pontiff since the Dutch-German Adrian VI (15221523). Benedict XVI is the eighth German pope; the first was Gregory V (996999). The last Benedict, Benedict XV, served as pontiff from 1914 to 1922 and thus reigned during World War I.", but I included a note saying that "(although some dispute the characterisation of Adrian VI as German, preferring to call Victor II the last German pope)" because, let's face it, people have been disputing it and that needs to be recognised. - SoM 19:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I have made an edit that moves the explanation down to a footnote. However, the footnote link is not working like it should. The info is there, the reader just has to manually scroll down to get to it. I am investigating and hope to have it fixed soon. Johntex 20:39, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Public Opinion
Reading this article I found no mention to popular reaction against Pope Benedict's figure. It is imperative to respect him and the Church, but this is an Encyclopedia, and it should be listed. Maureen Dowd, New York Time's columnist, called him "God's rotweiller"; journalist Homera Cristalli reported that some italians, unhappy with his election, gave him an awful nickname; he has been called also Panzerkardinal. The "God's rotweiller" title has been widespread, and it really should be mentioned - but not under "Controversies", for this is popular reaction, not an intellectual controversy. How do we do it?

Use the precedent on where the term "Slick Willie" is included in the Encyclopedia Britannica regarding Bill Clinton. plain_regular_ham 19:01, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Since there are two nicknames, and I am sure there will be more to come, so why not have a section (at the bottom) of different nicknames and have sources on where they came from. Zscout370 19:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Clean Up
Could someone please try to make the page flow better, and then constantly check for lamers who constantly screw up the page?

 * Those two aims are incompatable - checking for "lamers" requires small, frequent edits to fix it.

 * Anyone actually taking the time to do what you suggest would run head-on into a major Edit conflict right now - SoM 19:50, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree with SoM, many people are trying to edit this page, keep on getting the Edit conflict notice. I get it on here and on the article space a lot. Zscout370 19:54, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pictures
Will SoM and Cantus please discuss which pictures are used where in this article HERE and STOP REVERTING THE ARTICLE OTHERWISE I WILL BAN BOTH OF YOU FOR VIOLATION OF THE 3 REVERT RULE. -- Arwel 20:09, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sorry to sound a bit abrupt, but i've been watching this article for over an hour and seeing the main picture switch multiple time without any discussion between the headshot, the throne shot, via occasional views of Emperor Palpatine and Osama Bin Laden, and there are far too many vandal edits going on right now to have two of our more reputable editors playing silly games. -- Arwel 20:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm willing to stop. Although I believe my set up is better. Cantus… ☎   20:32, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * Well, my last post on this page seems to have got lost (it's not even in the page history), but I've only changed that pic twice in total, although I've seen more changes that I haven't instigated (I've made more edits than that, but unless you count my restoring a | I accidently left out, none of them were actual reverts).

 * Like I said on Cantus' talk page though, the headshot just isn't a good picture, and (although I didn't say this there) the throne shot is somewhat more consistant with the portrait-pics of other popes until an official portrait of Benedict XVI is released. - SoM 20:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * And /Archive04 agrees with me - SoM 20:38, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Guys, holding a vote for a couple of hours in the middle of the night is hardly the way to come to a wide consensus! The world won't come to an end if you wait a few days for an official Vatican photo. Personally I prefer the headshot, but I'm prepared to wait... -- Arwel 20:46, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * [[Image:Palpatine.jpg]] RAWR! I'm not the one changing the pic to this on the front page, but I can do it here right? :p  Quasipalm 21:28, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Number of the beast, Greek Numbering System
First all. John's Apocalypse is written in Greek. So the number system to follow should be greek not ASCII no Latain only Greek. The Greek numerical system is

Α,α=1 Β,β=2 Γ,γ=3 Δ,δ=4 Ε,ε=5 ΣΤ,στ=6 Ζ,ζ=7 Η,η=8 Θ,θ=9 Ι,ι=10 Κ,κ=20 Λ,λ=30 Μ,μ=40 Ν,ν=50 Ξ,ξ=60 Ο,ο=70 Π,π=80 (symbol copa )= 90 Ρ,ρ=100 Σ,σ=200 Τ,τ=300 Υ,υ=400 Φ,φ=500 Χ,χ=600 Ψ,ψ=700 Ω,ω=800 (symbol sanpi)=900

Now it's very simple to calculate some Names AFTER we translate them to greek

The Name JESUS as an example is written in greek ΙΗΣΟΥΣ if we add the letters we come up with Ι+Η+Σ+Ο+Υ+Σ = 10+8+200+70+400+200 = 888

Another example christians (catholics, ortodox etc.) believe in a "trinity god", father son and holly ghost the greek word for trinity god is ΤΡΙΑΔΙΚΟΣ ΘΕΟΣ Τ+Ρ+Ι+Α+Δ+Ι+Κ+Ο+Σ+Θ+Ε+Ο+Σ = 300+100+10+1+4+20+200+9+5+70+200 = 999

So who ever this individual is if we translate the name in greek and then make the addition the result will be 666.

Β+Ε+Ν+Ε+Δ+Ι+Κ+Τ+Ο+Σ = 2+5+50+5+4+10+20+300+70+200 = 6 6 6

So, the previous 15 Popes that went by the name Benedict were antichrists too then? This type of number stuff is definately not wikipedia worthy. Rangeley 21:11, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Well and has he something to do with Route 66? 68.165.99.171 21:32, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I say exactly that something is not ok. It's a FACT that the names above produce this result. Antichrist comes from Greek Anti- Christos means ANTI (upside down ) Christos (Christ, Jesus). And after all I don't thing that any Christian believes that the middle ages where from enlightened popes bud more from popes That acted at least not humane. Example the "holy inquisition" etc... Any such type of behavior is ANTI (against) the Values of Christianity. Or a much greater example the infamous Christian Crusades against nations of the world, who tolerated them ? who produced them ? Maybe the 15 previous popes. Did you see the man in his eyes dear Rangeley and you thing that human knowledge is not worthy of wikipedia. What I writte is FACT again and NOT FICTION.
 * I agree with Rangeley. How can a whole slew of people be the Antichrist? This seems more like a superstition/coincedence that the numbers add up to 666, which isn't really important anyway. We should remove this from the article. Bratsche talk  random 22:11, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * Oh, my god. My great uncle's name is Benedict as well. 85.124.45.190 15:30, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ok. First of all there will be the "Beast" or "the antichrist" and there are many antichrists simply by doing things against the will of god. So cool down. Read the bible and see what John's Apocalypse says. Many people have appeart in history and produced a mess behind masks of sheeps bud in the inside they where wolfes. And by the way why to remove the article, where is freedom of speach ? Simply because you disagree (and good you do so) we should not discuss some facts ?
 * Um, well even though you have your freedom of speech, not all things are appropriate in the articles. Wikipedia policy shows that we need to keep a neutral point of view. Calling a person an "antichrist" does not adhere to this convention. Oh, and please sign you comments with four tildes (~) Thanks.  Bratsche talk  random 22:27, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

22:34, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) do you agree at least that the above paradigms are facts ? (sorry new at wiki don't know the mechanics of well..) and by the way Ratzinger is defenetly NOT "THE antichrist" he is too old bud I believe that he will play he's role in the worlds future abomination produced by the antichrist.

While in danger of violating the "Don't bite the newbies" princible, i'd have to say with complete authority that your Greek sucks. It's Μπενεντίκτος. Project2501a 04:38, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

new picture box
What happened to the picture box that had been agreed on? It looked impressive. The one in now looks tacky and amateurish. Please restore the properly designed one. Fear ÉIREANN 21:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Check out the discussion at Template talk:Infobox pope; people have been changing it. Bratsche talk  random 22:29, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

Papal traditions
We have already learnt that this traditionalist pope will not be using a Papal coronation (which may be due to it being 6 hours long). Are there any vaticanologists who could suggest when we will know whether he will be using the Papal tiara, and similar "unofficially" abandoned customs? Further, does anyone know when his coat of arms will be released? --Oldak Quill 21:17, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

He will most likely not use the Papal Tiara, as sources suggest. This tradition was stopped, in an effort to make the Pope's more down to earth and less glamorous if you will. Rather then focus on their earthly treasures they instead focus on God. The Coat of Arms is expected to be realeased on April 24th, in his Papal Installation. Rangeley 21:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * That modernizing attitude may or may not be one he believes in continuing,but the practical obstacle to his having a traditional Papal Coronation is that Pope Paul VI sold the triregnum and gave the money to charity...they're not going to commission and create a new one in four days!--Louis E./le@put.com/12.144.5.2 21:51, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's not true. Pope Paul gave his tiara to the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington D.C. I think it was done to improve Vatican-American relations. It's now on display there. The tradition wasn't abolished (Benedict could still use it), but the gesture started by Pope John Paul I will probably stand. Bratsche talk  random 22:00, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * It would be rather symbolic to use the papier-mache tiara ;). --Oldak Quill 22:04, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Apparently their is a battle royal over this right now in the Vatican. Benedict believed it should not have been abandoned (as well as the Latin Mass) but the protocol people are all anti-tiara-ists. The old style coronation may be gone, but we'll have to say whether the tiaraists or the anti-tiaraists win out. Back in 1978 the pope was in a minority in not wanting to use it, but won the day. It will be interesting to see who wins this time. The announcement of the inauguration was made early to try to kill off any demands for a coronation. As their being only one - wrong. There are at least 12. He could pick any one to use. The 1877 tiara used by Pius XII and John XXIII is available. So is Pius XI's, and the one Pope John XXIII got after his coronation. Leo XIII was given tiaras by the bucketload. If he gets his way and is allowed to be crowned, all he has to do is to walk into the museum, point at one and say "I want that one". It is as simple as that. Fear ÉIREANN  22:10, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * The pope is infallible. He decides who gets which position, thus he has sovereignty over such decisions. As a non-Catholic, all the Vatican is too me is a living history book - it would be interesting to see the coronation and tiara brought back. --Oldak Quill 22:18, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Any chance he'll be taking the Papal oath? John Pauls I&II both refused to do so. (Alphaboi867 22:28, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Gah!
It seems to me that the current situation of this article is such as to simply cause insanity. The editing comes so fast that it's almost impossible to be sure that one isn't editing a vandalized/POVed version of the article, which makes correcting vandalism/POV insertion (the latter especially) prohibitively difficult. It seems likely it'll be weeks before this article reaches any kind of state where we can actually go through and make sure it's not full of nonsense. While this happens to an extent with a lot of articles about things in the news, the situation with this article seems worse than that of almost any other article I can think of. Does anybody have any thoughts on resolutions to this? john k 21:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

To create a special college of Wikipedians, called the Cardiwikis, who are the only ones allowed to modify the papal articles ? 68.165.99.171 21:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Edit individual sections, rather then the whole thing. Thats the best way to do it. Rangeley 21:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately, you can't revert individual sections. john k 21:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This is driving me crazy too. We're going to need four archives of this talk page in only two days. Oh, and you can edit the individual headers: just click the edit button above the line on the individual header.

 * We really need an [Edit] for the top section (above the first headline) - SoM 22:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Can I be a Wikardinal? Bratsche talk random 22:02, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * I know it's frustrating, but look how much information has been put on this page in the last two days. Seriously, out of the chaos a really great article is emerging.  Wikipedia already has more information on the new Pope than any other website I've seen.  So, in short, the process isn't fun, but it's working!  My advice is to copy a section of the page into an external editor.  Then when you are ready to upload it, you have an external copy in case the page has changed -- if it has, just copy and past it back in.

I would suggest putting a notice at the top of the page stating that the article is currently in a state of constant fluctuation, and due to the high volume of edits, inaccuracies and vandalism may be present. --Poiuyt Man (talk)  22:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Benedicti
I'm not the best in latin class, but sholnd't it be "Benedicti Decimi Sexti"? At least that's how they called them in the balcony

 * "Benedicti ..." is the genitive case of "Benedictus ..." The announcement goes "... who takes for himself the name of Benedict the XVIth" - the "-i" represents the English "of". It could also say "take ... Benedict's name" (though that's akward in English) and you still wouldn't call him Benedicts in English. There was a similar problem before with the accusative "Benedictum". Unfortunately that's the setback of the simplicity of English (analytical language) in this field as compared to Latin (synthetical language).
 * Maybe there should be general trust towards names ending in "-us" (male) or "-a" (female). (Neuter would be "-um", but that doesn't apply to persons.) There are other endings possible (-o,-or,-er) but "us" and "a" are the most common ones.
 * Str 1977

I took out the dealie about Benedict translatin to "the blessed". I'm pretty sure it's more like "well-speaker" or something to that effect, more of like "blesser". If anyone has anything to say about this please do and feel free to replace it if you feel it's warranted. FilthMasterFlex 01:42, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Well, I think that literally, Benedict means "good speaker" (bene = well, dict = speaker, speaking). But now, I think that the most commonly used translation is now "blessed". See . Bratsche talk  random 03:57, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry guys, I reposted it (though in the naming section), as the translation "the blessed" is correct. You are right the word consists of the elements "good" (> adverb "well")and "to speak", but speak is in the past participle form so literally it means "he who is well spoken of/about". Of course, theoretically that could be rendering public opinion about someone, but in this case it is "blessed" - a blessing is sort of a uttering of a positive opinion. The opposite is "maledictus" - badly spoken of, hence cursed (there's an episode in the life of Benedict of Nursia playing with that dichotomy).
 * "Well speaker" would have been "benedicens", "blesser" would have been "benedictor" (though I'm doubting either the English or the Latin verb really exists, I have heard neither)
 * Thanks for your openess, Flex
 * Str1977

His Holiness
I re-added the style His Holiness (see article), which is used for current (as opposed to non-current) popes. This is analogous to using "His/Her Royal Highness", "Sir", "Duke", "President", etc.

 * This is poor style for an encyclopedia. We do not say Her Royal Highness Queen Elizabeth -- we give the title of her office as Queen without honorifics. By the same token, the title of Benedict's office should be given without the honorific His Holiness. Whig 20:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I had to check myself and I was wrong, we *do* say Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II although whether this is well-advised, I still say it is not. In any case, we should be consistent and I will let the editors make the appropriate judgments for both (all) of these cases. Whig 20:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It is his proper title, this has been discussed before. It isnt a point of view, its a title that he holds.Rangeley 21:00, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I agree that we should keep "His Holiness" in the article. I'm not a Christian, and I don't personally think he's holy, but that is Benedict XVI's legitimate title. The same with using "Her Majesty" for Queen Elizabeth II, even if she isn't my queen. The same with using "The Right Honorable" for British MPs, and so on and so on. Kairos 23:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree with the point that we should be consistent in our usage. I don't agree that honorifics are a necessary part of a title for the purpose of identifying the personal and positional attributes of an office holder. Certain positions may entail a great many possible honorifics making the situation even more annoying. I think that if the absence of the honorific caused ambiguity, it should be included, otherwise it should be omitted, in all cases, including "The Right Honorable" and so forth. Whig 00:53, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Most pages regarding Americans simply use their name. Perhaps this is causing the confusion -- is it more common for Europeans to honor a persons title?  I just checked GW Bush and it doesn't say "President Geor..." it just says his name.  Same with Antonin Scalia, it doesn't say "Justice Antoni..." even though that's his title.  However, all UK titles are there, from Sir Elton John to Her Magesty Queen Whoeverisqueen.   My preference is that pages just use names -- to me, "His Holiness" is POV just as putting Führer Adolf Hitler would seem to be POV.  It's certainly easier just to omit all titles rather than pick and choose, no? Quasipalm 03:21, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

"His Holiness" is a style (manner of address), not a title. In articles for royalty, Wikipedia does seem to fairly consistantly begin them with the style as part of the first reference. And yes, the pope is a monarch. Jonathunder 03:30, 2005 Apr 21 (UTC)

 * Which seems consistently *wrong* to me, unless and in case a style and/or honorific is necessary for the purpose of disambiguation. Whig 11:14, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

President is NOT an example of style; it is an actual title. Pope, Bishop, Cardinal, King, Queen, Prince, Princess, Baron, ect. are all offices; there's no way you could not include them in the article, and oftentimes it is only possible to identify people via these titles - Elizabeth isn't exactly a rare name, for instance. Queen Elizabeth is more distinctive though. In reality styles should probably not be appended before people's names because they are inherently PoV; for instance, Lucian Pulvermacher (aka Pope Pius XIII) is a modern-day antipope. In theory, he too should have the His Holiness title before his name, and it would be PoV to NOT give him that title if the "real" pope has it because we are essentially stating that Benedict XVI is the real pope and Pius XIII is not. I don't think anyone really wants to see that, but it what needs to be done if we have decided it is Wikipedia pollicy, as it certainly is not encylopedic. Titanium Dragon 11:27, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Gah!
It seems to me that the current situation of this article is such as to simply cause insanity. The editing comes so fast that it's almost impossible to be sure that one isn't editing a vandalized/POVed version of the article, which makes correcting vandalism/POV insertion (the latter especially) prohibitively difficult. It seems likely it'll be weeks before this article reaches any kind of state where we can actually go through and make sure it's not full of nonsense. While this happens to an extent with a lot of articles about things in the news, the situation with this article seems worse than that of almost any other article I can think of. Does anybody have any thoughts on resolutions to this? john k 21:33, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

To create a special college of Wikipedians, called the Cardiwikis, who are the only ones allowed to modify the papal articles ? 68.165.99.171 21:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Edit individual sections, rather then the whole thing. Thats the best way to do it. Rangeley 21:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately, you can't revert individual sections. john k 21:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This is driving me crazy too. We're going to need four archives of this talk page in only two days. Oh, and you can edit the individual headers: just click the edit button above the line on the individual header.

 * We really need an [Edit] for the top section (above the first headline) - SoM 22:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * That is not a standard form, but I think its a good idea. I'm putting it in.  Johntex 03:39, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Can I be a Wikardinal? Bratsche talk random 22:02, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * I am already selecting the name I will use as Wikipope!Grace Note 01:59, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I know it's frustrating, but look how much information has been put on this page in the last two days. Seriously, out of the chaos a really great article is emerging.  Wikipedia already has more information on the new Pope than any other website I've seen.  So, in short, the process isn't fun, but it's working!  My advice is to copy a section of the page into an external editor.  Then when you are ready to upload it, you have an external copy in case the page has changed -- if it has, just copy and past it back in.

I would suggest putting a notice at the top of the page stating that the article is currently in a state of constant fluctuation, and due to the high volume of edits, inaccuracies and vandalism may be present. --Poiuyt Man (talk)  22:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Proposed notice:  This article is in a state of constant fluctuation. Due to the high frequency of edits at this time, the content of this article may change rapidly, and may currently contain inaccuracies, POV, and vandalism. --Poiuyt Man (talk)  23:23, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Why this notice is silly:  This message is vandalism. Due to the high frequency of edits at this time, a notice was placed on this page to warn readers about its content. However, this is silly because it's just as easy for vandals to remove the warning as it is for them to be vandals in the first place. Besides, what Wikipedia page is always completely free of inaccuracies, POV, and vandalism? You might as well put this on every page. --Quasipalm 16:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I changed the part about Pope Benedict XVI being "opposed" to homosexuality and abortion. This has an offensive, and biased sound to it. Rather than being "opposed" to homosexuality and gay marriage, it can more positively and neutrally be said that he is committed to the Church's teaching which states that heterosexual intercourse and marriage are the only valid forms of human sexual and marital behavior. This way, a negative is eliminated and NPOV is maintained. I have included it this way, "He accepts the Catholic doctrines which state that heterosexual marriage and intercourse are the only valid form of human sexual behavior. He also proclaims the Catholic Church's teaching that euthanasia and abortion are intrinsically evil acts." - JW

 * "it can more positively and neutrally be said" ... so which is it? more positive or more neutral?  I think it's clear you're trying to make his stance sound less resolute than it really is.  And he's not just supporting the Catholic stance anymore -- he's setting the direction of the church now, so to pretend that he's not in part responsible for it isn't accurate.  Please read On_the_Pastoral_Care_of_Homosexual_Persons, a letter by Ratzinger, and it'll be clear that this guy is very opposed to homosexuality. Quasipalm 06:24, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * He is not setting the direction of the Church based on his own personal ideas. He has no power to change Church teaching.  It is not the Pope who decides that homosexual sex is wrong.  A Pope's job is to teach what was handed on to him from the previous Pope... who himself taught what he received from the previous Pope... and so on, all the way back to Christ.  The job of a Pope is not to "come up with teachings", it is to preserve and defend the original teachings of Christ and His apostles.  - Jack

 * I'm not sure it's all that biased to say that Benedict is "opposed" to homosexuality when he says that gay people are intrinsically evil. Kairos 23:37, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * He doesn't...he says their refusal to be celibate is "objectively disordered".--Louis E./le@put.com/12.144.5.2 23:58, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * As Prefect, Ratzinger wrote a 1986 letter to bishops that identified homosexuality as a "tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil" and "an objective disorder." Kairos 00:21, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * You have provided a true quote from him. But nowhere will you ever find a quote from him that says, "Gay people are intrinsically evil."  One reason for this is that the Catholic Church teaches that all human beings are inherently good.  That also applies to gay people.  In Vatican II, Pope Benedict (then Bishop Ratzinger) helped to write the papers that explained the Catholic Church's teaching.  The Church's Catechism, which contains a summary of Catholic doctrines, is based on those papers among other things.  As a Cardinal, and now as Pope it is his job to defend and preach the Catholic faith to the world.

 * The following quote is from paragraph 2358 of the Catechism, and it shows what the Catholic Church, and thus Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict truly say about homosexuals: "They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition." (Paragraph 2358) You can go to the following link and scroll down to read what the Church truly teaches about homosexuality (the numbers on the left side of the page are the paragraph numbers): http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3sect2chpt2art6.htm  -JW

Of course B16 is opposed to homosexuality and abortion, and there is nothing offensive or biased about saying so. Please give the man credit for his convictions, even if you and I disagree with him. Adam 00:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * You're confusing the issue,though.His church is opposed to homosexual acts as well as acts such as abortion,contraception,fornication,and so forth. "Hate the sin,love the sinner" is certainly among his convictions as well,and clarity demands distinguishing between the Church attitude toward homosexual activity and homosexuality.--Louis E./le@put.com/12.144.5.2 00:12, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree with the previous post. "Opposed to abortion" is ok, since it is both clear what abortion is and it is not offensive to describe the Pope's stance that way. "... to homosexuality" however is not so good, since it blurs the distinction between an "orientation" and an "act" (before anyone asks - whether you agree with the distinction is irrelevant, since this is about the Pope's and the Church's stance on the issue and there the distinction applies). So maybe: "homosexual acts" or "practised homosexuality" or "homosexual practice".
 * Str1977

 * "Opposed to homosexual acts" sounds good to me. Kairos 00:28, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I wish to concur with Kairos. Zscout370 00:29, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * No, I strongly disagree. You cannot seperate homosexual identity from homosexual expression.  That's like saying I have nothing wrong with Catholics, but Catholic Acts are evil.Quasipalm 06:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * It's statements like this I tried to address beforehand above. It is the Pope's and the Church's stance that is described here (as being controversial) and you might not agree with it. That's fair enough (but your PoV). But to take out the distinction is misstating the Church's stance.
 * Str1977
 * I also agree that the best phraseology would be to say something to the effect of "committed to Church teaching on homosexuality." To say "opposed to homosexuality" makes the Pope sound as if he is a politician taking a position on an issue "du jour" rather than a religious leader guided by doctrine. Brian Brockmeyer 00:32, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * 'A "tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil" and "an objective disorder."' doesn't sound like the words of a man who is supportive of "homosexuality. Those are clearly words directed against the broader notion of homosexuality and not just against the acts. Grace Note 01:58, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Our new Pope happens to love and respect people who decide to engage in sexual activity with members of the same sex, while at the same time adhering to Catholic doctrine that the behavior of these people is not acceptable. The Catholic Church teaches the following (and this is directly from paragraph 2358 of the Catholic Catechism): "The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided."
 * So, to recap, the pope is opposed to homosexuality. Quasipalm 06:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

On consideration I agree that "opposed to" is not the best phrasing. If one considers something to be a disorder one is not really "opposed to it". It's like saying a psychiatrist is "opposed to" schizophrenia. It is better to quote what he said - buit in the appropriate place in the article, not in the introduction, which is already too long. Adam 02:16, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Wow, Adam. Of all the comments in this article, this one of yours is among the most logical and perceptive.  Very cool.  - JW
 * But surely, gays should have some say in the matter. If almost all gay people do not see themselves as suffering from a disorder, why should Catholic apologists be allowed to explain away their opposition to homosexuality so easily?
 * Homosexuals(and others), in a way, already have a say by putting it into the "controversial" section, but regardless of your POV, the Church's stance should be described acurately (see my comments above) That's not explaining away anything, just stating the facts (and the Pope's and the Church's POV, if you want to call it that, are the facts this paragraph deals with)
 * Str1977

I am gay, by the way, and my view is that this article should just state what B16 has said on the matter. This is not an article about Catholic attitudes to homosexuality, which someone should write. Adam 11:57, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Being gay as well, I agree with Adam. Just state what B16 has said on the matter and move on. Now, who's going to write the article about Catholic attitudes to homosexuality??? Mowens35 16:10, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * That would be an interesting article. Please add it to this category if you write it: Category:LGBT issues and religion --Quasipalm 17:13, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Unless there was an agreed language to the above issues, I wish to give an idea to yall. I am thinking of more like this: "Benedict XVI, though following the Church doctrine on homosexuality, believes that homosexuals "must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition." Though I used the same quote as mentioned above, I personally think this could work. Zscout370 16:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Scout, I disagree. Your solution puts words or thoughts into Benedict's mouth/head. Wiki cannot say that he "believes" anything unless he has stated it. Or unless we know, and declare, that he wrote the doctrine himself. Mowens35 16:46, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Zscout,
 * I disagree with the "though" in there. It might give the impression of a difference between the Church's stance and Benedict's adherence to it on the one hand, and the belief that they should be treated "with respect". It sounds like "A" is church doctrine and "B" his personal belief, whereas in fact both are church doctrine to which Benedict adheres to.
 * Str1977 09:21, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Just a little post here from a person who is not an editor, but I am a little knowledgable on the subject: in answer to Mowens35, Zscout is quoting from the Catechism of the Catholic Church (Benedict was the person in charge of the project, and it is noted at the page after the title page). I could be wrong, but I believe that this quotation is taken directly from the 1986 letter that Benedict wrote on homosexuality itself, so it is his thinking, and it would seem that he does believe it. If you guys have a standard for not using the word 'believe' in this context I guess that's fine, but it seems that is his belief to me. kraine 16:55, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I was quoting JW, who quoted the quote from paragraph 2358 of the Catechism. From what JW stated, this shows what the Catholic Church, and thus Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict truly say about homosexuals. Zscout370 20:00, 21 Apr 2005

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Networked narrative

A networked narrative, also known as a network narrative or distributed narrative, is a language partitioned across a network of interconnected authors, access points, and/or discrete threads. It is not driven by the specificity of details; rather, details emerge through a co-construction of the ultimate story by the various participants or elements. It does help the user to study a topic better.

Networked narratives as decentralized stories
Networked narratives can be seen as being defined by their rejection of narrative unity. As a consequence, such narratives escape the constraints of centralized authorship, distribution, and storytelling. One of the most visible forms of networked narrative has been the alternate reality game, an interactive scenario that is experienced through multiple channels and adapts to player behavior. Additionally, networked narratives have been represented in films such as Crash and Syriana through highly decentralized, threaded plots.

Networked narratives as social movements
Marco Deseriis breaks down networked narratives in three central functions: denotative, performing, and pragmatic. He claims that socially-created networked narratives:

1. Represent an initially unsolved conflict, dilemma, or other situation. 2. Invite viewers to perform a role in the story. 3. Are oriented around a system of beliefs or ethics that resonates with participants and allows them to create new stories.

Internet activism, hacktivism, and the free software movement are principal examples of such narratives in practice. While adherents to these movements tend to share a common ethos, there is no central authority - the direction of the narrative hinges on its participants.

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Frank Solich

Frank Thomas Solich (born September 8, 1944) is a former American football coach and former player. He is the former head coach at Ohio University, a position he held from 2005 until 2021. From 1998 to 2003, Solich served as the head coach at the University of Nebraska–Lincoln, where he also played fullback under Bob Devaney in the mid-1960s.

Early life and playing career
Solich grew up in Cleveland, Ohio, and graduated from Holy Name High School in 1962, where he earned all-state, All-America, and all-scholastic honors. He scored 104 points in high school but was being overlooked due his height, 5'7", and weight, 153 lbs. When he got to his college weigh-in he got his trainer to tape eight-pound weights under his shorts. He made weight at 162 lbs. He was a part of Bob Devaney’s first recruiting class at Nebraska, and became a standout for the Huskers in the mid-1960s, where he earned the nickname "Fearless Frankie". An All-Big Eight fullback and co-captain of the Huskers’ 1965 team, his playing career earned him induction into the Nebraska Football Hall of Fame in 1992. In Nebraska's 27–17 win over Air Force in 1965, he ran for 204 yards on 17 carries, becoming the first Husker to run for 200 yards in a game, and subsequently the first Husker to be featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated.

High school
He began his career in the Nebraska prep ranks, as head coach at Omaha Holy Name High School in 1966 and 1967. His 1967 team was state runner-up. Solich then moved to Lincoln Southeast for 11 years, where he compiled a record of 66–33–5 while capturing consecutive Class A state titles in 1976 and 1977.

Nebraska
Solich returned to college football at his alma mater in 1979, spending 19 seasons at Nebraska as an assistant coach under Tom Osborne: four as the freshman team coach, and 15 as running backs coach. In Solich's 19 years as an assistant, the Huskers captured 3 national championships and 11 conference titles. He was the position coach for many of Nebraska's standout running backs of the 1980s and 1990s, including Tom Rathman, Calvin Jones, Ahman Green, and Lawrence Phillips.

Osborne retired after the 1997 co-national championship season and named Solich as his successor. Solich directed the Huskers to six consecutive bowl games, including his 2001 squad, which started 11–0 but was beaten by Colorado 62–36 in the last regular season game. Despite that loss and failing to qualify for the Big 12 championship game, the Huskers still made it into the national championship game (ahead of #3 Colorado and #2 Oregon) in the Rose Bowl against Miami. Nebraska was beaten 37–14. Solich did win at least nine games in five of those six seasons, and finished among the top 10 teams in the nation three times. Solich compiled a 58–19 record (.753) at Nebraska.

Solich's 1999 Huskers defeated the Texas Longhorns for the Big 12 championship. Solich was named the Big 12 Coach of the Year in 1999 and 2001, and was one of seven finalists for the Paul "Bear" Bryant Award in 2001.

For the first five years as head coach, Solich served as his own offensive coordinator, as Osborne had for most of his tenure. His offenses centered on the option. He also utilized such plays as the Black 41 Flash Reverse Pass which became a highlight of Eric Crouch's Heisman Trophy-winning season in 2001.

The Huskers slumped to 7–7 in 2002, a year in which they fell out of the rankings for the first time since 1981; their 348 consecutive weeks in the AP Poll is still the longest in college football history. He gave up offensive play-calling duties to newly hired offensive coordinator Barney Cotton and brought in Bo Pelini, the linebackers coach for the Green Bay Packers, as defensive coordinator. 2003 began with Nebraska starting out 5–0, but suffered three key losses later in the year: 41–24 to Missouri, 31–7 to Texas and 38–9 to Kansas State. After winning the final game of the regular season, Solich was fired by new athletic director Steve Pederson.

Solich's 58 wins during his first six seasons as Nebraska's head coach exceeded those of his predecessors, Bob Devaney (53 wins) and Osborne (55 wins), both of whom are in the College Football Hall of Fame.

Ohio
Solich took the 2004 season off, the first time he'd been away from the game in 39 years. In 2005, Solich was hired at Ohio University in Athens, and his impact on the football program was immediate. He arrived when renovation plans for the Ohio football facilities, which had begun eight years earlier (prior to 2004, the program was furnished with new coaches office, practice fields, a new 10,000 square-foot strength and conditioning center, enhancement to the team locker room, revitalization of Peden Stadium including installation of a state-of-the-art FieldTurf playing surface, improved and expanded seating complete with a popular concert-style berm at the south end zone) were nearly complete. They were finished with two final projects, new team meeting rooms and a new athletic training room. Fan interest in the program was revitalized and reached its highest since the 2001 season. Also, Ohio was selected to appear on national television six times for the 2005 football season, a record for the program. Solich's first home game as coach of the Bobcats was a memorable one, as Peden Stadium brought in its largest crowd ever. 24,545 fans were in attendance on September 9, 2005, to watch the Bobcats defeat the Pittsburgh Panthers, 16–10. The Pittsburgh–Ohio game was among the top 15 most viewed regular season college football games ever on ESPN2.

The Bobcats' 2005 record under Solich (4–7) was the same as the team's record in the previous year under Brian Knorr. However, in 2006, Solich led the Bobcats to a 9–5 record including a MAC East Division title and a GMAC Bowl invitation. The bowl game (which Ohio lost to Southern Miss, 28–7) was the program's first bowl appearance since 1968.

In the 2007 season, the Bobcats took a step backward and finished with a record of 6–6. Two of those losses were by less than three points, and a third was a 28–7 loss to nationally ranked Virginia Tech. The Bobcats were one of six bowl eligible teams that missed the postseason.

On July 18, 2008, Solich was given an extension of his contract through the 2013 season.

In 2009, Solich led the Bobcats to a 9–5 overall mark with another MAC East championship and an appearance in the Little Caesars Pizza Bowl. That 2009 senior class amassed more wins (28) than any other Ohio football class in more than 40 years.

In 2011, Solich coached the Bobcats to a 10–4 record, another MAC East Division title, and their first ever bowl win. The Bobcats defeated Utah State 24–23 in the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl. It was Ohio's first ten win season since 1968.

During the 2012 season, Solich coached the Bobcats to a 7–0 start, which saw their first Associated Press Top 25 weekly ranking since 1968, as well as a spot in the weekly coaches poll. In October 2018, Coach Solich celebrated his 100th win at Ohio University. Later that year, he passed Bill Hess as the second-winningest coach in school history. A 66–24 victory over Bowling Green in November 2019 gave Solich his 111th win as Ohio coach, making him the winningest coach in MAC history.

In 2021, Solich stepped down as head coach of the Ohio Bobcats to focus on his health. He retired with a career record of 173–101 (0.631) with a record of 115–82 (0.584) at Ohio. His long time assistant Tim Albin was promoted to replace him. He currently serves as a special assistant to the Athletic Director at Ohio.

Prior to the 2022 season Ohio University installed new turf in Peden Stadium. The field at Peden was now christened "Frank Solich Field" Through the completion of the 2023 season Ohio is 11–1 on the new field.

On January 8, 2023, Solich was announced as a member the 2024 College Football Hall of Fame class. In 2024, he will be included in Croatian American Sports Hall of Fame.

Personal life
Solich married Pamela Wieck of Beatrice, Nebraska. They have two children, Cindy and Jeff.

In 2005, police in Athens, Ohio found Solich passed out behind the wheel of his car, facing the wrong direction on a one-way street. Solich was convicted of drunken driving, resulting in a $250 fine and driver's license suspension. He attempted to fight this based on testing that revealed the "date rape" drug GHB in his system. His attempt to withdraw his plea failed.

College
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Armed Forces Revolutionary Council

The Armed Forces Revolutionary Council (AFRC) was a group of Sierra Leone soldiers that allied itself with the rebel Revolutionary United Front in the late 1990s. While the AFRC briefly controlled the country in 1998, it was driven from the capital by an international military intervention of the Economic Community of West African States Monitoring Group (ECOMOG). It was no longer a coherent and effective organization by the elections of 2002.

Description
The AFRC was formed by Major Johnny Paul Koroma of the Sierra Leonean military in 1997, who used it to carry out a coup d'etat against the government of President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah. The former Sierra Leone Army ("ex-SLA") is a term used to refer to soldiers loyal to the AFRC. Several rationales have been suggested for the coup, including: anger at the government for not implementing the November 1996 peace agreement with the Revolutionary United Front (RUF), perceived ethnic discrimination in the appointment of the highest ranks of government, perceived financial neglect of the armed forces, and favoritism for the ethnic Mende Kamajors led by Samuel Hinga Norman.

Following the coup, in May 1997 the AFRC demanded that the Nigerian-led West African peacekeeping force then in the country release the arrested RUF leader Foday Sankoh. Sankoh gave his blessing to the AFRC, and RUF forces who had been fighting in the countryside linked up with AFRC forces in the capital Freetown. Sankoh was named Vice-Chairman of the AFRC and several other RUF leaders were named to high positions. The AFRC and RUF thus formed a joint military junta controlling the country.

However, in March 1998 the AFRC/RUF was forced out of Freetown by an invading West African force that put President Kabbah back in power. However, the rebels according to their respective origins, RUF and ex-SLA, under the renewed pressure, with a force of ex-SLA based in the Occra Hills, 50 km from the capital. The rebel AFRC regrouped to retake the capital in January 1999, but was again forced out by the Nigerian-led force.

By 1999, the authority of the AFRC and Major Koroma over the ex-SLA had become very uncertain and the AFRC is commonly seen as devolving into bands of loosely associated combatants. The West Side Boys rebel group are sometimes referred to as an AFRC splinter group. The West Side Boys abducted several soldiers of the British army that were training West African peacekeepers in July 2000, and was subsequently destroyed by British forces in a September raid that freed the hostages. While many of the combatants who were under the command of the Armed Forces Revolutionary Council continued to fight, the "AFRC" designation gradually ceased to become useful and the AFRC organization is no longer considered to exist.

After the folding of AFRC, Koroma's supporters have organized the Peace and Liberation Party.

Indictment and conviction
In June 2007, the Special Court found three of the eleven people indicted – Alex Tamba Brima, Brima Bazzy Kamara and Santigie Borbor Kanu – guilty of war crimes, including acts of terrorism, collective punishments, extermination, murder, rape, outrages upon personal dignity, conscripting or enlisting children under the age of 15 years into armed forces, enslavement and pillage. It was notably the first-ever international court to bring a guilty verdict for the military conscription of children.

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Ballyconneely

Ballyconneely is a village and small ribbon development in west Connemara, County Galway Ireland.

Name
19th century antiquarian John O'Donovan documents a number of variants of the village, including Ballyconneely, Baile 'ic Conghaile, Ballykineely, Ballycunneely, and Balyconneely. An Post Placenames Branch archival notes Baile Uí Chonghaile, Baile 'ic Confhaola and other various spellings.

The surname, Conneely is Mac Conghaile originally (Ó Conghaile contemporaneously), whereas Ó Conghaola (modern spelling Ó Conaola - Conneally) is an entirely unrelated sept located in southern County Galway belonging to the Uí bhFhiachrach Aidne. An Post archival notes local lore from the early 20th century that attests the origin of the village's name to that of Muintear Chlann Chonghaile or Clann Mhic Conghaile, that is to say, the Conneelys.

Location
Settlements are spread out north on the road to Clifden and south on the road to Roundstone. This peninsula, jutting into the Atlantic Ocean between Clifden to the north and Roundstone to the south, is a mainly rural area. Its name is based on the old civil parish of Ballindoon, which in turn was named from the old fort or cashel on Doon Hill.

The area is home to several beaches: the Coral Strand at Derrygimla; west and north to Knock, Mannin, Dunloughan and Truska; and east and south from Keeraunmore, Aillebrack, and Ballyconneely Bay to Calla, Dolan and Murvey. Some of these beaches are also used for shore fishing.

History
In 1854, the first salmon farming operation in the United Kingdom was carried out on the Dohulla Fishery.

In 1919, the first transatlantic flight by Alcock and Brown ended two miles away in Derrygimla Bog, an unsuitable landing place which damaged the aircraft.

The crash landing was near the Marconi Wireless Telegraph Station built in 1905, which was used to send the first transatlantic wireless message, to Cape Breton in Nova Scotia, in 1907.

A team of Dutch botanists studied lakes and water chemistry around Ballyconneelly in 1975 and throughout Ireland until 2010, due to the island's unique post-Ice Age landscape no longer found in the Netherlands.

Tourism and amenities
Every July, the Ballyconneely pony show attracts people from the surrounding county to exhibit livestock and visit the travelling funfair. Ballyconneely breeds Connemara ponies, including some home and overseas champions. Legend has it that the breed originated when Arabian horses come ashore from a Spanish shipwreck near Slyne Head and bred with the small native pony.

Attractions include a 27-hole golf links, and Roundstone Bog three miles to the east, an expanse of moor, lake and stream, containing wildlife and rare plants. The beaches have edible shellfish and molluscs accessible at low tide, including clams, cockles, mussels, razorfish, sea urchins, shrimp and scallops, and with local knowledge, the occasional lobster. Connemara Smokehouse and Visitor Centre is located at Bunowen Pier, a small harbour used by local fishermen and boat owners.

Two shops, a post office, a community hall, and a local parish hall make up the village centre. Other businesses in the area include a hotel, a golf course with club house, guest-houses, bed-and-breakfast establishments, and holiday homes.

Former Taoiseach Brian Cowen has a holiday home in Dunloughan, close to the Connemara Golf Links.

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Erich Jantsch

Erich Jantsch (8 January 1929 – 12 December 1980) was an American astrophysicist, engineer, educator, author, consultant and futurist, especially known for his work in the social systems design movement in Europe in the 1970s.

Biography
Born in Vienna in 1929, Jantsch studied physics at the University of Vienna, where he obtained his doctorate in astrophysics in 1951. Subsequently, he did a post-doctorate study at the Indiana University Bloomington for another year.

Jantsch started his career as an astronomer at the University of Vienna, where he worked until 1957. In the mid-1950s, he emigrated to the United States, but did not receive his green card until 1979. He continued to work in Europe and United States. From 1957 to 1962 Jantsch worked as an engineer and physicist in Switzerland. In 1970 he was appointed Richard Merton Professor at the Technical University in Hanover, Germany.

Jantsch lectured widely in Europe, North and South America, the Near East and Japan. For example, he was a visiting lecturer of Planning and Research Planner of International Studies, University of California, Berkeley. In 1974, Jantsch stayed at the Villa Serbelloni in Bellagio, "where he was one of the first distinguished residents invited by the Rockefeller Foundation". He was also Research Associate at MIT, where he studied the future of MIT and the American University.

Jantsch was an advisor to twenty governments, several international organizations and research institutes. Among others he was "consultant to the Directorate of Scientific Development of the O.E.C.D. and as a member of the executive committee of the Club of Rome". As consultant to OECD (Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development); prepared studies on the world food problem, technological forecasting, higher education, etc. In 1971 he was the Austrian delegate to the first session of the UN Committee on Natural Resources.

For the last few years of his life, Jantsch was without a job and lived in an "apartment in Berkeley: dark and depressing room, with massage parlours above and below; a typewriter, a plant, and scattered copies of his favourite newspaper, Neue Zürcher Zeitung". It was here that he finished his last book, The Self-Organizing Universe. He made a living and supported his mother "by giving lectures all over the world, through writing, and by relying on a few friends". Jantsch died on 12 December 1980 in Berkeley, California "after a short but painful illness". He had been "alone and lonely, abandoned by friends, misunderstood by colleagues". His ashes were scattered over the Pacific Ocean.

Work
In the mid-1960s Jantsch's increasing concern regarding the future led him to study forecasting techniques. He did not believe that forecasting or science could be neutral.

The Self-Organizing Universe, 1979
Jantsch's Gauthier Lectures in System Science given in May 1979 at the University of California in Berkeley became the basis for his book The Self-Organizing Universe: Scientific and Human Implications of the Emerging Paradigm of Evolution, published by Pergamon Press in 1980 as part of the System Science and World Order Library edited by Ervin László. The book deals with self-organization as a unifying evolutionary paradigm that incorporates cosmology, biology, sociology, psychology, and consciousness. Jantsch is inspired by and draws on the work of Ilya Prigogine concerning dissipative structures and nonequilibrium states.

Now out of print for many years, The Self-organizing Universe has been influential in the interdisciplinary fields of biomimicry, holism, co-evolution, and self-organization. It was extensively cited in Ken Wilber's integral philosophy book Sex, Ecology, Spirituality: The Spirit of Evolution.

Reception
Jantsch was described as "quiet and modest", but as an "original polymath and genius" by Ralph H. Abraham in "The Genesis of Complexity".

Magoroh Maruyama wrote in a eulogy:

"Jantsch succumbed at the age of 51 to the material and physical hardships that worsened progressively during the last decade of his prolific and still young life. This makes us realize again the harsh and brutal conditions of life some of the innovators must endure. ... Let us face squarely the fact that Jantsch was given no paid academic job during a decade of his residence in Berkeley—a town considered to be a foremost spawning ground of scientific and philosophical innovations.' Jantsch penned his own epitaph: 'Erich Jantsch died on __ in Berkeley after a painful illness. He was almost 52 and grateful for a very rich, beautiful and complete life. His ashes have been scattered over the sea, the cradle of evolution.'"

Jantsch's Design for Evolution is described as "a seminal work on general evolution theory (GET)" by Ralph H. Abraham in "The Genesis of Complexity".

Selected publications
Books:
 * 1966: Technological Forecasting in Perspective, Working Document. DAS/SPR/66.12, Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, Paris, France.
 * 1967: Technological forecasting in perspective, OECD, 1967.
 * 1968: Integrating Forecasting and Planning through a Function-Oriented Approach. Technological Forecasting for Industry and Government. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall.
 * 1969: Perspectives of Planning.
 * 1969: Integrative Planning for the" Joint Systems" of Society and Technology--The Emerging Role of the University.
 * 1969: Adaptive institutions for shaping the future. Perspectives on Planning. Jantsch, E., ed. OECD, Paris.
 * 1970: Science and Human Purpose.
 * 1972: Technological planning and social futures, Wiley, 1972. ISBN 0-470-43997-1
 * 1972: The futurists (Interview with E. Jantsch featured in this book) Toffler, A. (Ed.). (1972). New York: Random House.
 * 1975: Design for Evolution: Self-Organization and Planning in the Life of Human Systems (The International Library of Systems Theory and Philosophy), George Braziller Inc, 1975. ISBN 0-8076-0758-4
 * 1976: Introduction and summary. Evolution and Consciousness, Human Systems in Transition, Addison-Wesley Pubi., Reading, 1–8.
 * 1976: Modes of Learning. Human Systems In Transition, edited by Frlch Jantsch and Conrad Waddington, MA: Addison-Wesley Publishing Company.
 * 1976: Evolution and consciousness: Human systems in transition
 * 1976: Evolution: Self-realization through self-transcendence.
 * 1976: Evolving images of man: Dynamic guidance for the mankind process. E. Jantsch CH Waddington: Evolution and Consciousness-Human systems in Transition, Addison-Wesley.
 * 1976: Evaluation and 36 Systems and Models Consciousness. Jantsch, E., & Waddington, C. H.
 * 1976: Self Realisation Through Self Transcendence. Evolution and Consciousness.
 * 1976: Self-transcendence: new light on the evolutionary paradigm.
 * 1980: The Self-Organizing Universe: Scientific and Human Implications of the Emerging Paradigm of Evolution, New York: Pergamon Press, 1980. hardcover ISBN 0-08-024312-6 ; softcover ISBN 0-08-024311-8
 * 1980: "The unifying paradigm behind autopoiesis, dissipative structures, hyper-and ultracycles". Autopoiesis, dissipative structures, and social orders. Westview Press, Boulder.
 * 1980: "The evolutionary vision: Toward a unifying paradigm of physical, biological and sociological evolution".
 * 1981: The Evolutionary Vision (Aaas Selected Symposium), Westview Press. ISBN 0-86531-140-4
 * 1981: The Evolutionary Vision: Toward a Unifying Paradigm of Physical, Biological and Sociocultural Evolution. Boulder, CO: Westview Press, 1981.
 * 1982: "From self-reference to self-transcendence: The evolution of self-organization dynamics". Self-organization and dissipative structure (University of Texas Press, Austin), 344353.

Articles, a selection:
 * 1967: "Forecasting Future". Science Journal, 3(10), 40.
 * 1968: "Technological forecasting for planning and its institutional implications". Ekistics, 26(153), 150–161.
 * 1968: "Technological forecasting in corporate planning. Long Range Planning, 1(1), 40–50.
 * 1969: "Integrative planning of society and technology: the emerging role of the university". Futures, 1(3), 185–190.
 * 1969: "New organizational forms for forecasting. Technological Forecasting, 1(2), 151–161.
 * 1969: "The organization of technological forecasting in the Soviet Union:: Notes from a brief visit". Technological Forecasting, 1(1), 83–86.
 * 1969: "The chasm ahead". Futures, 1(4), 314–317.
 * 1970: "Inter- and Transdisciplinary University: A Systems Approach to Education and Innovation", Policy Sciences, Vol. 1, No. 4 (Winter, 1970), pp. 403–42
 * 1970: "From forecasting and planning to policy sciences", Policy Sciences, 1(1), 31–47.
 * 1970: "Toward a methodology for systemic forecasting". Technological Forecasting, 1(4), 409–419.
 * 1970: "Technological forecasting at national level in Japan:: Notes from a brief visit". Technological Forecasting, 1(3), 325–327.
 * 1971: "The Planning of Change", in Policy Sciences.
 * 1971: "World Corporation-Total Commitment". COLUMBIA JOURNAL OF WORLD BUSINESS, 6(3), 5–12.
 * 1971: "World dynamics". Futures, 3(2), 162–169.
 * 1972: "Education for design". Futures, 4(3), 232–255.
 * 1972: "The organization of forecasting in Romania: Notes from a brief visit". Technological Forecasting and Social Change, 4(1), 19–22.
 * 1972: "Towards interdisciplinarity and transdisciplinarity in education and innovation. Interdisciplinarity", Problems of Teaching and Research in Universities. OECD, Paris, 97–121.
 * 1972: "Forecasting and the systems approach: A critical survey". Policy Sciences, 3(4), 475–498.
 * 1973: "Enterprise and environment". Industrial Marketing Management, 2(2), 113–130.
 * 1973: "Forecasting and systems approach: a frame of reference". Management Science, 19(12), 1355-1367.
 * 1974: "Organising the human world: an evolutionary outlook". Futures, 6(1), 4–15.
 * 1975: "The quest for absolute values." Futures, 7(6), 463–474.
 * 1980: "Ethics and evolution." The North American Review, 14–18.'
 * 1980: "Interdisciplinarity: Dreams and Reality". Prospects: Quarterly Review of Education, 10(3), 304–12.
 * 1981: "Autopoiesis: A central aspect of dissipative self-organization". Zeleny, M. Autopoiesis: a theory of living organization. New York: North Holland, 65–88.
 * 1981: "Unifying principles of evolution". In The Evolutionary Vision, 83–116.

See also his first biography by Leah H. Sciabarrasi, ''The Quiet Ganesh. Finding Erich Jantsch'' (Amazon 2023), ISBN 979-8378741885 (hardcover), 979-8378611034 (paperback).

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Ellen Willis

Ellen Jane Willis (December 14, 1941 – November 9, 2006) was an American left-wing political essayist, journalist, activist, feminist, and pop music critic. A 2014 collection of her essays, The Essential Ellen Willis, received the National Book Critics Circle Award for Criticism.

Early life and education
Willis was born in Manhattan to a Jewish family, and grew up in the boroughs of the Bronx and Queens in New York City. Her father was a police lieutenant in the New York City Police Department. Willis attended Barnard College as an undergraduate and did graduate study at University of California, Berkeley, where she studied comparative literature.

Career
In the late 1960s and 1970s, she was the first pop music critic for the New Yorker, and later wrote for, among others, the Village Voice, The Nation, Rolling Stone, Slate, and Salon, as well as Dissent, where she was also on the editorial board. She was the author of several books of collected essays.

At the time of her death, she was a professor in the journalism department of New York University and the head of its Center for Cultural Reporting and Criticism.

Writing and activism
Willis was known for her feminist politics. She was a member of New York Radical Women and subsequently co-founder in early 1969 with Shulamith Firestone of the radical feminist group Redstockings. She was one of the few women working in music criticism during its inaugural years when the field was predominantly male. Starting in 1979, Willis wrote a number of essays that were highly critical of anti-pornography feminism, criticizing it for what she saw as its sexual puritanism and moral authoritarianism, as well as its threat to free speech. These essays were among the earliest expressions of feminist opposition to the anti-pornography movement in what became known as the feminist sex wars. Her 1981 essay, Lust Horizons: Is the Women's Movement Pro-Sex? is the origin of the term, "pro-sex feminism".

She was a strong supporter of women's abortion rights, and in the mid-1970s was a founding member of the pro-choice street theater and protest group No More Nice Girls. A self-described anti-authoritarian democratic socialist, she was very critical of what she viewed as social conservatism and authoritarianism on both the political right and left. In cultural politics, she was equally opposed to the idea that cultural issues are politically unimportant, as well as to strong forms of identity politics and their manifestation as political correctness.

In several essays and interviews written since the September 11 attacks, she cautiously supported humanitarian intervention and, while opposed to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, she criticized certain aspects of the anti-war movement.

Willis wrote a number of essays on anti-Semitism, and was particularly critical of left anti-Semitism. Occasionally she wrote about Judaism itself, penning a particularly notable essay, for Rolling Stone, in 1977, about her brother's spiritual journey as a Baal Teshuva.

She saw political authoritarianism and sexual repression as closely linked, an idea first advanced by psychologist Wilhelm Reich; much of Willis' writing advances a Reichian or radical Freudian analysis of such phenomena. In 2006 she was working on a book on the importance of radical psychoanalytic thought for current social and political issues.

Rock criticism
Willis was the first popular music critic for the New Yorker, writing between 1968 and 1975. As such, she was one of the first American popular music critics to write for a national audience. She got the job after having published only one article on popular music, "Dylan" in the underground magazine Cheetah, in 1967.

In addition to her "Rock, etc." column in the New Yorker, she also published criticism on popular music in Rolling Stone, the Village Voice, and for liner notes and book anthologies, most notably her essay on the Velvet Underground for the Greil Marcus "desert island disc" anthology Stranded (1979). Her contemporary Richard Goldstein characterized her work as "liberationist" at its heart and said that "Ellen, Emma Goldman, and Abbie Hoffman are part of a lost tradition — radicals of desire."

Personal life
Willis had met her second husband, sociology professor Stanley Aronowitz, in the late 1960s, and they entered a relationship some 10 years later. They shared domestic tasks equally. Willis died of lung cancer on November 9, 2006.

She was survived by her husband and by her daughter, Nona Willis-Aronowitz, who edited the collection Out of the Vinyl Deeps.

Legacy
Willis was a friend of many contemporary critics, including Robert Christgau, Georgia Christgau, Greil Marcus, and Richard Goldstein. Christgau, Joe Levy, Evelyn McDonnell, Joan Morgan, and Ann Powers have all cited her as an influence on their careers and writing styles. At one point, she and Christgau were lovers.

Her papers were deposited in the Arthur and Elizabeth Schlesinger Library on the History of Women in America, in the Radcliffe Institute at Harvard University in 2008.

In 2011, the first collection of Willis's music reviews and essays, Out of the Vinyl Deeps (University of Minnesota Press), was published. Willis "celebrated the seriousness of pleasure and relished the pleasure of thinking seriously," a review in The New York Times said.

On April 30, 2011, a conference at New York University, "Sex, Hope, & Rock 'n' Roll: The Writings of Ellen Willis", celebrated her anthology and pop music criticism.

The Essential Ellen Willis, edited by her daughter, won the 2014 National Book Critics Circle Award in the Criticism category.

Willis is featured in the 2014 feminist history documentary She's Beautiful When She's Angry.

Books

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Essays, reporting and other contributions

 * "Ellen Willis's Reply", 1968.
 * "Women and the Myth of Consumerism", Ramparts, 1969.
 * "Hell No, I Won't Go: End the War on Drugs", Village Voice, September 19, 1989.
 * "Vote for Ralph Nader!", Salon, November 6, 2000.
 * "The Realities of War" (A response to Elaine Scarry's "Citizenship in Emergency"), Boston Review, October/November 2002.
 * "The Pernicious Concept of 'Balance'", The Chronicle of Higher Education, September 9, 2005. Note: scroll down page.

Reviews and critiques of Ellen Willis

 * by Marcy Sheiner, San Francisco Bay Guardian, March 29, 2000.
 * Bully in the Pulpit? (Discussion of Ellen Willis "Freedom From Religion"), The Nation, February 22, 2001.

Interviews

 * "Ellen Willis, Feminist and Writer", Fresh Air, November 10, 2006 (originally broadcast February 14, 1989). (page links to RealAudio audio file)
 * Interview with Ellen Willis and others on Implicating Empire by Doug Henwood, Left Business Observer (radio), March 27, 2003. (page links to MP3 audio)

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Daniel Henninger

Daniel Henninger is an American commentator. He serves as the deputy editorial page director of The Wall Street Journal, and is a Fox News contributor.

Early life
Henninger was born in Cleveland, Ohio to David R. Henninger and Aileen M. Henninger. His younger brother is Rev. Mark G. Henninger, SJ. Daniel Henninger is a graduate of Georgetown University's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service.

Career
Henninger serves as the deputy editorial page director of The Wall Street Journal, and is a contributor to Fox News. He also writes a column named "Wonder Land", which appears in the Journal every Thursday. In the 1980s he wrote most of the Journal's editorials on drug regulation. He is a frequent guest on the Saturday Fox News show Journal Editorial Report, in which he discusses current issues with fellow editorial page writers and guests. (A transcript of the discussion appears on OpinionJournal.com the following Monday.)

He won the Gerald Loeb Award for commentary in 1985; the 1995 American Society of Newspaper Editors' Distinguished Writing Award for editorial writing; and the 1997 National Journalism Award for editorial writing. He shared in the staff of The Wall Street Journal's 2002 Pulitzer Prize for Breaking News Reporting on 9/11.

Personal life
Henninger is a onetime resident of Ridgewood, New Jersey.

Pro-Israel Bias
Henninger exhibits strong and certain pro-Israel bias.

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Multi-Displacement System

Chrysler's Multi-Displacement System (MDS) is an automobile engine variable displacement technology. It debuted in 2005 on the 5.7 L modern Hemi V8. Like Mercedes-Benz's Active Cylinder Control, General Motors' Active Fuel Management, and Honda's Variable Cylinder Management, it deactivates four of the V8's cylinders when the throttle is closed or at steady speeds.

The system was first offered only on passenger cars, since the heavy demands of trucks would interfere with its operation. However, it was recalibrated for 2006 and was offered on all seven models, including SUVs and 1500 series trucks, using the 5.7 L engine.

Chrysler expected that the technology would boost economy by 10% to 20%. In the Jeep Grand Cherokee with MDS, highway fuel mileage for the V8 is the same as the V6 at 21 mpg (11.2 liters per 100 km).

In order to preserve the characteristic rumble of the V8 engines, Chrysler and Eberspaecher North America designed a special exhaust system for MDS-equipped vehicles. This includes four separate mufflers, two large central ones for V8 mode and two smaller ones near the tailpipes for four-cylinder mode. Unlike the system used on Mercedes-Benz V12 engines, also designed by Eberspaecher, the system is mechanically passive.

Applications:
 * 2005–2023 Chrysler 300C
 * 2005–2008 Dodge Magnum
 * 2005–Present Jeep Grand Cherokee
 * 2006–2023 Dodge Charger
 * 2006–2009, 2011-Present Dodge Durango
 * 2006–Present Dodge Ram/Ram pickup (1500 only)
 * 2006–2010 Jeep Commander
 * 2007–2009 Chrysler Aspen
 * 2009–2023 Dodge Challenger
 * 2021-Present Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392
 * 2022-Present Jeep Wagoneer

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A bryologist is a botanist that studies bryophytes, the nonvascular complex plants such as mosses and liverworts.

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It seems that this thing was a dream. There is a | wikiversity.org School:Physics_and_Astronomy. Maybe that should be linked instead? Or not, but the dead link does no one good. Johnjbarton (talk) 00:58, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you for your recent Slashdot posts. I especially liked the links to the papers on the DIY biochemistry assay-tech with conventional CD drives. Was looking for an email address so that I could send this directly to you, but you seem to be well hidden on the internet. -- kanzure 01:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
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Atmospheric absorption data and models
Dear Kebes,

Do you have comprehensive references to atmospheric absorption models used as references by people studying these effects? Does water absorption account for most of the atmospheric loss or dust and water reflection account for similar effect?

Can you please share your understanding beyond the link: http://omlc.ogi.edu/spectra/water/abs/index.html

Thanks (Doylespace (talk) 13:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC))

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Suzanna Leigh

Suzanna Leigh (born Sandra Eileen Anne Smith; 26 July 1945 – 11 December 2017) was a British actress, known for her film and television roles in the 1960s and 1970s.

Early life and education
Born Sandra Eileen Anne Smith on 26 July 1945, Leigh grew up in Berkshire, England, and later went to convent schools outside London. She began working in films while still a child, appearing as an extra in several British productions. She changed her name to Suzanna Leigh after entering film, whilst under the tutelage of her godmother, Vivien Leigh

Career
Leigh's film roles include the love interest of Elvis Presley in Paradise, Hawaiian Style (1966), a stewardess in the comedy Boeing Boeing (1965), and the heroine in a couple of Hammer films - The Lost Continent (1968) and Lust for a Vampire (1971).

She starred in the cult British horror films The Deadly Bees (1966) and The Fiend (1972). In 1974 she starred as Amber in Son of Dracula. In 2015, she was a featured player in the film Grace of the Father. She wrote a 2000 autobiography, Paradise, Suzanna Style.

Death
Leigh was diagnosed with stage-four liver cancer in September 2016 and died in December 2017 in Winter Garden, Florida.

Writings

 * Paradise, Suzanna Style
 * 2014: "Thank you, Lord", Touched by an Angel, chickensoup.com; accessed 14 December 2017.

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Mister Love

"Mister Love" is a 7" single by Toadies. It was released in 1993 on clear yellow vinyl by Grass Records; manufactured and distributed by Dutch East India Trading.

The song "Mister Love" appears in identical form on the 1992 Velvet cassette EP. While the song "I Burn" can be found elsewhere, the track as presented here is an early electric version exclusive to this release. Both songs were later re-recorded for the band's major label debut, Rubberneck.

Track listing

 * 1) "Mister Love" (Lewis) - 2:32
 * 2) "I Burn" (Lewis) - 3:40

(P) 1993 Grass Records.

Personnel

 * Todd Lewis - vocals
 * Charles Mooney III - guitar
 * Darrel Herbert - guitar
 * Lisa Umbarger - bass
 * Mark Reznicek - drums

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