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Talk:Atlanta Thrashers

List of Atlanta Thrashers players
There is a List of Atlanta Thrashers players. When you add players to the Thrashers main article, could you also add the same players to the list article as well. Thanks! Masterhatch 8 August 2005

 * Are there any Thrasher fans who want to work on the List of Atlanta Thrashers players? --Sparkhurst 03:58, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

2005-06 Roster Scratch
Moved to "current squad" in article ccwaters 21:32, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Heh, Kozlov just might have wanted to be known by his real name (which I've been seeing used for years). "Slava" is a standard style Russian diminutive of "Vyacheslav", much like "Johnny" or "Bobby" are standard diminutives. Ravenswing 12:04, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's what I thought. First time I've noticed it ccwaters 21:32, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Also, J.P. Vigier's true name is Jean-Pierre Vigier. He may want to go by his true name instead of the abbreviation.
 * Ok... are you just speculating that he may decide this sometime down the road or as he actuall asked to be referred to by Jean-Pierre. If he has, than the league, the team, the nhlpa and media will abide as demonstrated with Kozlov and Nabakov (twice). Its not up to us to decide. ccwaters 01:05, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Current Roster
Note: Mellanby, Havelid, and Modry were added to the team last off-season, 2004, not 2005.

 * That's nice, but what's the point of linking to a season that didn't happen? Any, I reverted Bondra back for the umpteenth time. Do you see a pattern here? I've pointed you to the correct forum to discuss it multiple times. Go there to express your views (and yes I think they are very valid). We've discussed these issues before and came to a decision, but that doesn't mean we won't change our mind. Bondra is a wierd one. Kolzig is a wierd one (born in S. Africa to German parents and raised in Canada). Brett Hull is a wierd one (US's hockey golden boy was born in Canada). ccwaters 19:44, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

SOmeone needs to fix the current roster in preps for the 2009-2010 season, I found it a mess after a recent "update" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.16.237.230 (talk) 18:00, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Where's Byron Dafoe?
Is Dafoe still with the Thrashers? if not ,where can he be? Mightberight/wrong 20:24, 27 October 2005

 * Dafoe's an unsigned unrestricted free agent. Ravenswing 07:55, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Flags
The consensus at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ice_Hockey/Team_pages_format seems to be that nation of birth is used in all but the most obvious situations where it would be misleading. Since Peter Bondra moved from Ukraine to Slovakia at age 3, and plays for Slovakian teams, I think it's pretty obvious he's Slovakian.24.64.223.203 09:59, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

 * But the flag corresonds to the birthplace, not where he lives. Currently, they all live in Canada or U.S., So they should all have american of canadian flag?

Bondra's flag. *sigh*
(begin ranting) Yes, he was born in the Ukraine. But birthplace doesn't always determine nationality or allegiance. He's on the Slovak Olympic team. Hence Slovakian flag. Not Ukraine. Looks like someone changed it to Slovakia while I was preparing this message. Nice to see someone realizes this. (end ranting) -- Buchanan-Hermit™ .. CONTRIBS .. SPEAK!. 02:44, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Speaking of Bondra, he needs to hurry up and resign with the finals destined ThrashersO-TOWN'S AT 22:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

 * He's not planning on it. Minfo 05:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

man, how many of these captains are messed up?
I mean really. Dany Heatley is the main captain for Atlanta. Good thing theres an edit button. thank god. --Bennyenhuis 18:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * That'd be perfect... if only Heatley was still with the team. ;) Buchanan-H  e  rmit™ .. SCREAM!!! ..[[Image:Flag of British Columbia.svg|24px]]..[[Image:Maple Leaf.svg|14px]] 19:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Heatley was never a captain of the Thrashers. Just an alterate captain. GoodDay 01:33, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Mascot
WHY does the Thrasher section look like advertising? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.41.213.180 (talk • contribs).

Team name inspiration
I've come across many people who are unaware that the team is named after the Georgia state bird, the Thrasher, and are unaware the type of bird in the logo, so to help try to end this confusion, should an image of a thrasher be placed on the page? The Devils' page has an image of a Jersey Devil, as their team's name inspiration. --David7581 02:19, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Jersey images
Since we know every NHL team is required to change their jersey design this year, should we change the "present" in the years of the jerseys to 2007? --David7581 02:21, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Why is this included?
I have not edited this but wouldn't statements like this:

"This is again due to a complete lack of talent with the possible exception of Ilya Kovalchuk, the young Russian who alone, has managed to keep the team alive."

be against the rules? This is a personal opinion stated as fact. It is also simply not true as the statement in question is in regards to a team that made the playoffs which WOULD mean the team does have talent and there is zero justification to state that one player in Ilya Kovalchuk has managed to "keep the team alive".

These comments are not needed in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.37.4.38 (talk) 15:04, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Similarly, this is hardly NPOV: "(This was not helped by the fact that Patrick Stefan turned out to be one of the biggest failures in NHL History)". Thoughts?  (GLG 01/08/08)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.133.131.34 (talk) 20:42, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I suspect several of the team articles require a serious looking over.  I'll remove those blatantly POV editorials.  If you see anything more, feel free to remove, or alter them to a more NPOV tone. Resolute 21:12, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Penguins Edits
Whoever added our new acquisitions to the Atlanta roster and edited the profiles... You Rock!!

I'll add all the stats and such in later tonight so they have all of the info down we're trying to assemble for Thrashers players. Probably from NHL.com.

Tsani Jones (talk) 21:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Thrashers alternate jersey image
The player's number is shown in the front of the jersey as well. Since the jerseys shown on the page seem to have the number "00", should the alternate jersey have 00 in the front, something like this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jojorocko (talk • contribs) 21:17, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Players
Hi, I don't know how to properly edit Wikipedia articles and don't want to mess things up. The term and distinction "West Germany" are not made anymore since 1990. Please change to "Munich, Germany."

71.59.146.26 (talk) 17:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The names of the birth countries remain as they were when they were born. The player was not born in Munich, Germany. He was born in Munich, West Germany. There is a difference. -DJSasso (talk) 17:57, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Rumors and cited information
The information of the discussed moves of the franchise, along with a potential purchase by an local Atlantan, is cited from reliable sources. if all of this information has been proven false, then the correct response is to present that proof from reliable sources, not to remove the entire section. If this removal of cited information continues without further discussion and consensus here, then I will request that the page be fully protected until a consesnus is reached on the issue. Thanks for you cooperation. - BilCat (talk) 19:09, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * That being said, the fact that it was mentioned, correct or not correct is in itself important to the franchise. It is something that is constantly talked about in connection with the franchise. If sources can be provided that it is incorrect then that should also be included. But it would be wrong to remove it outright. -DJSasso (talk) 19:19, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

 * Exactly. - BilCat (talk) 19:35, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

 * Have you even looked at these so called references ? "Thrashers to Winnipeg rumour wishful thinking" and "Group wants to move Atlanta Thrashers to Hamilton". This in no way is a "possible relocation". Just because a group wants to move the Thrashers to some dirt hole means nothing. I want to move Cowboys Stadium to my backyard, or move the Statue of Liberty. Doesn't mean a thing. Also The first reference explains how ridiculous the relocation idea is and says “There is no truth whatsoever to these rumours”. If we're are going to include every rumor some sports caster with the IQ of a silk worm creates than the section should be named "Rumors, Gossip, & Crackpot Theories", not "Possible relocation". UrbanNerd (talk) 20:23, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

 * I have no problem with the section being renamed. I do have a problem withthe wholesale removal of the section, especially the paragraph on Stephen Rawlin's interest. The latter is from the NHL's own website, and appears to be about a serious interst in purchasing the Thrashers. Why you removed it is beyond me, as it is more that just a "rumor". As to the other paragraph regarding the moves, they aren't just some WP editor mouthing he want to move the Cowboys to his backyard! These appear to have been serious interests by groups who approached the NHL about acquiring and moving the franchise. The Winnepeg "rumor" wa that the move was a "done deal", not that there was no interest at all. - BilCat (talk) 20:44, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

 * Well any smug, arrogant, WP cat can say whatever they want. Why you are so eager to include this gossip is beyond me. It's extremely poor editing to include this kind of trash. The section needs to be renamed at the least. UrbanNerd (talk) 21:16, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

 * Please be civl. It's not mere "gossip", and certainly the paragraph on Rawlin's interst is not a rumor of any kind. How about "Ownership issues" as a title? - BilCat (talk) 21:25, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

 * The economic state of the franchise is most certainly notable. Certainly the section name is not good - "Economic state" or something might work - and the section should include more information, including the recent legal issues.  But yes, it should also make note of potential buyers and concerns about the team's future.  Removing the section outright is not the proper solution.  Fixing it is.  Though, care should be taken to avoid placing undue weight.  This article should be kept at a high level, and more details put into the appropriate season article, imo. Resolute 22:22, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Someone is tampering with the Owners name
The owners of the Atlanta Thrashers is & still Atlanta Spirit LLC. NOT some Canadian where they live in the middle of nowhere. I'll bet 99% of the world never heard of Winnipeg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.182.80 (talk) 18:42, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

This does not make sense.
"The Atlanta Thrashers were a professional ice hockey team based in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada." ...How? Were they in Atlanta or were they in Winnipeg? It should either say:

"The Atlanta Thrashers were a professional ice hockey team based in Atlanta, Georgia."

or

"The Winnipeg Thrashers (formerly Atlanta Thrashers) are a professional ice hockey team based in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada."

Macarion (talk) 02:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Relocation of the team has not been finalized. Please refrain from updating the infobox, or changing are to were. Until Gary Bettman announce the relocation of the team, then we will update the article, but has for now, only the selling of the team has been finalized. --  K.Annoyomous  (talk)   02:06, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

There are a couple of things to considered before we discuss about the location of the team and any name of the team. First of all, ownership changes must be approved by the league and this has not happen yet and yes, this is probably a formality. But that is crystal balling. Secondly and finally, I believe, purely technically speaking, relocated teams are expansion teams. So, even if the team moves to Winnipeg and keeps the Thrashers name, there should always be an Atlanta Thrashers article. Kingjeff (talk) 02:15, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

The NHL Board of Governors have not approved any relocation. So, let's sit tight & be patient. GoodDay (talk) 02:19, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

If the news reports are accurate, a new article will be created for the Winnipeg team once it is confirmed. This one will still cover the Atlanta history of the franchise, but would become historical. Right now, the editing of this and the Winnipeg Jets articles are just vandalism from excited fans. Resolute 03:55, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

 * Yes, per previous consensus regarding the NHL team articles, a separate page should be created for any new relocated team, just like there are separate pages for Quebec Nordiques and Colorado Avalanche, and Hartford Whalers and Carolina Hurricanes. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:38, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 71.225.63.1, 21 May 2011
The Thrashers will most likely move to Winnipeg.They are finalizing the deal now.

71.225.63.1 (talk) 00:17, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * "..will most likely..", isn't good enough. Wait until the NHL confirms this & the Board of Governors consent to it & re-location. Be patient. GoodDay (talk) 00:52, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * There should not be any such changes to this article regarding relocation until there are official announcements by the league and all parties concerned. Per GoodDay, "will most likely" is not sufficient enough. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:32, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from *, 24 May 2011
Under Statistics & Records, Most points in a season, defenseman: Tobias Enstrom, 50 (2009–10) is false, Dustin Byfuglien has broken that record with 53 (2010-11).

Shubvirk (talk) 01:13, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Done, but only because the entire section is unreferenced to begin with. I do not know for certain if Byufuglien scored all 53 points as a defenceman, or if that even matters for the record.  It will have to be checked and verified when next year's media guide comes out. Resolute 17:55, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

trust me he played defensemen hes whole career in Atlanta, only in Chicago he played forward. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shubvirk (talk • contribs) 20:11, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * That isn't true, he played a number of games at forward in Atlanta this year. -DJSasso (talk) 21:05, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Byfuglien Didn't play a single game at forward for Atlanta... I know. I watched every Thrashers game this season. There was great controversy about it, but if you go back and look at official rosters, he is listed at Defense in every game. He never even played a shift at Forward. --Kevneely (talk) 21:40, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

True North Sports and Entertainment
Is there an article on True North Sports and Entertainment ? 65.94.44.141 (talk) 13:44, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The red link suggests no.

 * As an aside for any editors reading, if the expected announcement happens as predicted, this article would become historical, and continue to discuss the Thrashers in Atlanta. A new article is prepared for the new Winnipeg team. Resolute 13:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

The recent article move
I think under Wikipedia's established precedent as to NHL teams it's inappropriate to move this article to "Winnipeg NHL"; rather, it should remain "Atlanta Thrashers" with a new article started about the as-yet-to-be-named reincarnation in Winnipeg. Consider that the Winnipeg Jets' article is separate from the Phoenix Coyotes', the Hurricanes' is separate from the Whalers', etc. 1995hoo (talk) 17:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

 * Concur, and I've reverted the move. Does someone have a sandbox ready to put in at Winnipeg NHL?

 * As usual, an article already exists at another title! See Winnipeg NHL Team. Sigh. We need to get this article fully move-protected. - BilCat (talk) 17:16, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

 * The old Ottawa Senators franchise also has a different article than the Ottawa Senators franchise which was established in 1992. If the new team is the Jets it would make more sense to have a new article for the 2011 Jets. The old Jets would be the previous location of the Phoenix Coyotes. It would be too confusing to incorporate the new team into that article, in my opinion. The precedent seems to be the Ottawa Senators article though. Two teams with different histories but the same name. Wait until the name is announced in any case. It won't be too long. TurtleMelody (talk) 17:23, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

 * User:Djsasso has fully protected the page. Thanks! - BilCat (talk) 17:24, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Just for moves. I left it semi-protected for editing. -DJSasso (talk) 17:30, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

 * That's what I meant :) - BilCat (talk) 17:32, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

 * The move has yet to be approved by the rest of the league. The vote is 6/21. Everyone is jumping the gun here. I agree the Winnipeg article should be made, but kept in a sandbox until then. We wait for trades/signings to be made official before we change things even when it's pretty obvious. --Airtuna08 (talk) 17:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Even if its not official...the fact that there is a pending sale to winnipeg on its own could be said to be a notable event. Even if it fails. It is a stretch I know. But if we don't have the page we are only going to get people creating it every day for the next 21 days. We just need to make it clear in the wording of the article that it is pending approval. -DJSasso (talk) 17:38, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed completely, and I think if possible any similar article names would have to be created with redirects. In addition, the article about the old Jets might need protection for the same reason. Even putting something in the text isn't enough, as the overenthusiastic types won't read it. Off the top of my head I can think of things like "Winnipeg NHL team," "NHL return to Winnipeg (2011)," "NHL in Winnipeg," and stuff like that. 1995hoo (talk) 18:19, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Page is already there. ;) But yes feel free to create redirects if you like. -DJSasso (talk) 18:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I have to go to the hardware store and then go home to fix a leaky toilet. That takes higher priority. But if I think of any redirects while doing it, I will add them after I finish the plumbing work! 1995hoo (talk) 18:26, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * In terms of of context, the BoG approval is effectively a rubber stamp according to TSN/CBC/NHL and for that matter, Gary Bettman - effectively the team in Atlanta is past tense as they will not be playing another season in Atlanta. For the article itself, it makes sense to operate in past tense as it has been announced. -- Tawker (talk) 18:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

As with others, on the hockey project side, we create new articles for new incarnations in franchise moves. This article should always stay at this title and discuss the team's history in Atlanta. Resolute 18:27, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's always been the case that a relocated team has separate articles for each city. The Thrashers' article is permanent despite the relocation.   Ravenswing  18:23, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Updating This Article
True North Sports and Entertainment has just confirmed their purchase of the Atlanta Thrashers. I noticed this page was locked, so hopefully you guys will get on editing ASAP. Details such as:

"Atlanta Thrashers 1999-present (Sale pending approval means 2011 could be last)"

need to be changed to

"Atlanta Thrashers 1999-2011" --PhantomCall2 (talk) 19:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Can't change it to that just yet. The NHL board of Governors still have to approve the sale and relocation. Will change article when that happens. Karl 334   ☞ TALK to ME ☜  19:05, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Exciting times. --PhantomCall2 (talk) 19:09, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

It needs to be changed to the "Atlanta Thrashers WERE an NHL team until 2011." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.13.139 (talk) 02:53, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

 * Carl's objections still stand. The sale and relocation are pending until approved by the NHL. Until the relocation is approved, "The Atlanta Thrashers are an NHL team." - BilCat (talk) 03:28, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

 * Type in "Atlanta Thrashers" on Google, press "News" and see what comes up. Let's kick the ballistics here, the team formerly known as the Atlanta Thrashers ceased to exist on May 31, 2011. Saying it is not is like waiting for the Electoral College to go through their formality of a vote before declaring a U.S. presidential candidate "president-elect".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.13.139 (talk) 06:41, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Check out, if you want to use your analogy, the terms of US presidents on here. THey start on inauguration day, not election day.  The team has not moved yet.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 12:32, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * They are gone from Atlanta. It is done. To use the past tense now is accurate. Dolovis (talk) 13:17, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The second paragraph is MORE THAN sufficient to address the issue for now. You sound like one of the people who says that because a news article appears saying "Rumors: Flyers to play Rangers in Winter Classic," Wikipedia should list those teams as the participants. It doesn't work that way. The current wording is accurate: There is a deal that, if and when the NHL ratifies it on June 21, will result in the Thrashers moving to Winnipeg. Until then, legally and under the NHL's bylaws, the Atlanta Thrashers remain an NHL franchise. So using the past tense is simply inaccurate. 1995hoo (talk) 13:47, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Not sure if you are from Atlanta or just clinging to the past. It might be too early to revive the Winnipeg Jets franchise page and call them a current team (in my analogy would be equivalent to president elect taking oath of office) but they called a press conference wherein the Commissioner and team owners were present and said this is happening (equivalent in my analogy to the other candidate conceding the race in a political race, thus making that person president-elect).  Pretending like it is not is both dishonest and inaccurate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.13.139 (talk) 22:04, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I am not from Atlanta, and that is irrelevant anyway. Note how the person is the President elect, not the president.  WHen the move is approved by the BOG we can note it then.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 22:14, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm also not from Atlanta; furthermore, I'm thrilled that Winnipeg is in line to get a team again. That aside, however, there is a formal process that the league will be following and we have to reflect that reality. --Ckatz chat spy  23:15, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm also not from Atlanta nor am I a Thrashers fan (I am from Northern Virginia and have been a Capitals fan since I first went to a game in 1984). My interest is simply in having the correct information. All the reports in the world can say the team is being sold, but until the league actually approves it, the team has in fact not been sold. The Coyotes' situation ought to provide ample proof of how nothing is official until the full process required by the NHL's bylaws is correct (recall how the judge in Phoenix rejected the Balsillie deal in part because he said the NHL's bylaws giving ownership the right to approve or disapprove a sale controlled). It would be "dishonest and inaccurate" for Wikipedia's article to say the deal is done when it's not. I will repeat what I said before: It is entirely accurate to say that an agreement in principle has been reached for the sale of the team that, if and when approved by the league, will result in the team moving to Winnipeg. Nobody disputes that. But to say that the Atlanta Thrashers are defunct is incorrect. Legally they're still the entity and it will remain that way until June 21 at the earliest. Dbrodbeck's point about the difference between the president and the president-elect is a good example: Until noon on January 20, the president-elect IS NOT the president. Until the NHL approves the move, the team is NOT sold and is NOT moved to Winnipeg. 1995hoo (talk) 23:22, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll play along...what happens if the board votes "no"? There are no buyers in Atlanta.  Therefore there will no longer be an Atlanta Thrashers either way.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.13.139 (talk) 21:41, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

If the board votes no, then ownership does not change, and Spirit of Atlanta remains the owner. It won't happen, we all know, but it's also only two weeks from being official. Resolute 21:44, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * As an aside, I've just noticed that the "Rinksters" site (the NHL's avatar-based site for kids) is phasing out all Atlanta-related material... --Ckatz chat spy  17:13, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 74.124.130.132, 1 June 2011
Don Waddell president of hockey operations announced he is leaving the team, and will not continue in his current position with the team in Winnipeg after the relocation is made official at the Board of Governors Meetings.

74.124.130.132 (talk) 01:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

 * Needs a reliable source, and that's not soemthing unusual in an ownership change anyway, so I'm not certain it's needed here. - BilCat (talk) 02:46, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It certainly needs a reliable source, but there's no doubt that Waddell is the seminal figure in the history of the Thrashers' franchise, and his departure would be a significant event.  Ravenswing  05:50, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * How's this--he has said he is NOT moving with the team. Source: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Don-Waddell-talks-about-his-role-in-the-Atlanta-?urn=nhl-wp6156  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.13.139 (talk) 06:46, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Don Waddell also said that Atlanta Spirit, LLC still own the rights to Thrashers Logo & Name.
 * Right but the team hasn't officially left Atlanta yet until the vote on June the 21st so technically its still possible he will be with the team. When the team officially is moved it will get updated. -DJSasso (talk) 23:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Team Officially Moved
Please make the page similar to the other teams who have relocated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.182.80 (talk) 19:56, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It is. -DJSasso (talk) 21:58, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

bias
"With the Thrashers sale and relocation to Winnipeg, the NHL isn't expected to return to Atlanta for the foreseeable future due to the failure of both the Thrashers and the Atlanta Flames.[18][19]"

Bias and doubtful, Atlanta is a major metropolis and big sports market. The Tharchers were under bad ownership is what doomed the team. I can't see Atlanta being w/o an NHL team for more than 10 years at least cuz with the poor situation in PHX and other teams, and with a good arena like Phipps, I don't see why anyone wouldn't try a third time to make hockey work in Atlanta.

I'd like to see both "the NHL is not coming back in the future" and "the NHL is only gone for a short wide because..." arguments made at least.--184.77.10.72 (talk) 00:37, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I dont see a NHL team returning to Atlanta until Atlanta Spirt doesn't operator the Philips Arena & if Gary Bettman retires, but I do see a AHL team to be playing in the Philips Arena. I can see Hamilton Bulldogs, Adirondack Phantoms, Albany Devils or Oklahoma City Barons to move to Atlanta.
 * First of all this is not a forum. Secondly, there is a reference for the statement, but I am not sure that the articles say that exactly.  It is hardly a leap though, and to call it bias is a bit much I think. Dbrodbeck (talk) 12:25, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

its a discussion, I have the right to talk about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.182.80 (talk) 02:58, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:NOTAFORUM Dbrodbeck (talk) 04:01, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

 * On the original point, I am inclined to agree. The references supporting the claim that the NHL isn't likely to return is the editorial opinion of writers.  They can't speak for the league, so I would agree that statement should be removed.  I personally don't believe the NHL is likely to return to Atlanta, but that is just my POV, and it is equally POV as an ESPN writer's. Resolute 04:06, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Alternatively, the statement could be rewritten to say something like "ESPN (feels, thinks, says, etc...) that, due to the Thrashers sale and relocation..." Of course, undue weight may be a consideration there. Seems like simply removing such a speculative statement would be best, but I wanted to at least offer the alternative (oh, and despite having NOTFORUM in mind... there's no way that Lou Lamoriello will move the Albany Devils out of upstate New York (more accurately, that he won't have the Dev's AHL affiliate somewhere in the Mid-Atlantic/New England region). He's from Providence after all, nevermind the fact that he feels that having the farm team relatively nearby is important. — V = IR (Talk • Contribs) 01:19, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Thrashers Banners
Any news if the Thrasher's banner are going to stay in the rafters at the Philips Arena? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.182.80 (talk) 22:02, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

they have been took down, they have not say why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.182.80 (talk) 01:44, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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Reasons for leaving
Everyone has their opinion on what went wrong with the Thrashers. Looks like someone decided to leave their own opinion in the last paragraph. While insightful, it needs to be sourced properly and the potential biases need to be addressed or else I would say this would be grounds for deleting the paragraph. Any thoughts? Rkehler3 (talk) 22:18, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Request to add a Legacy section
Wondering if a section can be added about the Thrashers today and their presence in hockey culture, specifically on Twitter and the popular Thrashers account. Would also suggest referencing the number of black players who played on the team at the same time. 5 players on a team has only happened in one other instance (tied for most ever), and I believe 2010 was the first time that a goal and both assists were all from black players. It seems significant/historic. Also well-documented online. I'm not the savviest when it comes to Wikipedia edits otherwise I'd do it myself. Jaymcarth (talk) 21:38, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

New Arena and potential ressurection
Locally here in Atlanta, there is a proposal in Forsyth County (North of the city) to build an arena to attract a NHL team. Is is worth placing here yet or should it wait until it is past the proposal stage? Byoungjr (talk) 13:33, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Carolina Hurricanes

Wrong Flag
Patrick Eaves has a US flag next to his name, but he's from Alberta. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.144.92.160 (talk) 00:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * However, he plays for the US national team. And standard is to use the flag for the nation they represent. -Djsasso (talk) 14:55, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

List of Carolina Hurricanes players
I have started a List of Carolina Hurricanes players. When you add players to the main Hurricanes article, could you be sure to add them to the list as well. thanks! Masterhatch 8 August 2005

Retired numbers
Umm... whst's the point of listing retired Whalers jersey's in the Carolina Hurricanes article if the Canes don't honor them. (Another reason to remove Hartford Whalers content from this article). Maybe the Hartford Wolf Pack honor those numbers?

 * None, particularly, and you're right in suggesting that Whalers-only honorees should stick with the Whalers' article. The banners had come down in the Hartford Civic Center (the only Whalers-era hockey banner still there was from hosting the All-Star Game in the 1980s) and the Wolf Pack's been a Rangers' affiliate throughout, so I can't see them honoring ex-Whalers.  Ravenswing 19:40, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I removed a lot of Whalers content that was also present in a perfectly acceptable Hartford Whalers article. That first paragraph could probably be shortened into a sentence or 2 (keep the long winded relo story in Hartford?). I also created a Hartford Whalers category and made it a child of the Hurricanes (I did the same for Phoenix-Winnipeg previously). ccwaters 20:34, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Concur, and done (along with some rework of the Greensboro story). -- VT hawkeye talk to me 04:16, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

 * All retired whalers banners still hang at the Hartford Civic Center, and actually just raised three new retired Whalers banners on Jan. 6, 2006 (The Mayor of Hartford hopes to have NHL return within 4 years)****

Current Squad
moved to article ccwaters 01:17, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Oleg Tverdovsky's nationality
Tverdovsky was born in territory that is now part of Ukraine, but played for the Russian team in the 2004 World Cup of Hockey, and a Russian flag hangs at the RBC Center in his honor, while no Ukranian flag was displayed until Anton Babchuk (who is unquestionably Ukranian) joined the team. The flag on the page should honor his expressed nationality preference.  VT hawkeye talk to me 01:08, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I'd go argue the case over on the talk page for the Team Pages Format. The consensus was to go with birthplace.  Ravenswing 06:51, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Rivals
Tampa Bay Lightning, Atlanta Thrashers, New Jersey Devils, Florida Panthers, Detroit Red Wings, and the Washington Capitals. Now this is what I call going nuts with this. Legitimate rivalries are like Calgary-Edmonton, Rangers-Islanders, Toronto-Ottawa, not the team's entire division and some teams they had playoff series with in the past. Let's decide one or two teams whose visits to Raleigh always draw interest from fans and that the team has had some (preferably contentious) history with. And if there aren't any, or the Hurricanes' history hasn't been long enough to build that, get rid of the entire rivalry list, which is what I favour right now. --Legalizeit 12:59, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Like the Not To Be Forgotten section, the Rivals sections are a nice idea that seems perpetually doomed to bloat every time some homer editor sees a game in which his favorite player gets punched in the face and the Good Guys lose. Scrap the whole thing.  Ravenswing 16:19, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I would say that Buffalo is not a rival of the Carolina Hurricanes. I removed them. AWBricker 02:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * As RGT suggested, (re-)killing the whole thing. POV-ridden, unstable, and asymmetrical to boot.  VT hawkeye talk to me 12:27, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Flag in alternate logo
I'm always happy to be corrected, but I was wondering if whoever corrected me on the tropical storm/hurricane watch flags could further elaborate. The source I used for my calling the single flag a "tropical storm" flag (and hence the irony, they aren't the Carolina Tropical Storms) was first my memory from college, but then also this page at USAToday:. Then I looked it up right here at Wikipedia and found the info that corrects that: Hurricane warning. What I'm wondering is when and why this changed, and do some systems still go by the old way, some the new? Fletcherism 28 April 2006

 * You're right, it's actually a storm warning. I changed it to "hurricane watch" because the Wikipedia article on tropical storm advisories said this was the case; however, looking at that USA Today page, that information came straight from the NOAA, so I'll trust them over a Wikipedia article. I think someone else had changed it to "gale warning" since then, which, according to that graphic, is not correct.

Not "Katrina's Team"
I rv'd this claim because I've been watching the team all season via NHL Center Ice, listening to home and away radio broadcasters via XM, and reading the local papers online, and not once have I seen or heard anyone refer to this club as "Katrina's Team." Google "Carolina Hurricanes" "Katrina's team" only gives WP-derived sources. WP:NFT.  VT hawkeye talk to me 12:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Under the circumstances, it would be deemed a seriously sick joke, and any player or media flack stupid enough to use the term where anyone could hear would be flayed alive for it. Ravenswing 13:15, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed with both. I've never heard this term/nickname in all my exposure to the 'Canes.  18.239.6.86 03:03, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed also. I go to the majority of the home games..watch everyone...was at Game 7 of the SCF...etc. Never heard the term before. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bobbyschultz (talk • contribs) 02:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC).

Conference Championships
Yes, the NHL declares the 2 teams advancing to the Stanley Cup Finals as their respective "Conference Champions" (REF: ). So this is Carolina's 2nd. The NHL doesn't officially award anything to the "regular season conference champs". The AHL on the other hand, currently recognizes both: Eastern Conf Reg Season: Frank S. Mathers Trophy, Eastern Conf Playoff Richard F. Canning Trophy, etc... ccwaters 18:27, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Redneck Hockey
The article cited says nothing to support the claim: This minor controversy picked up some steam, especially during the Buffalo series, as some Sabres fans publicly complained that essentially they "deserved" to win more than Carolina, being in "hockey country", while many of Carolina's fans were "fair weather fans" who were "riding the bandwagon". It just says there were arrests involved with an altercation between Sabres and Canes fan. Something that is not uncommon. ccwaters 18:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Why are you zeroing in on this item? Where are your complaints about the rest of the article's information? Anyway, I'll do what I can to find documentation supporting what I reported, which they were talking about on WRAL-TV and other places during the playoffs. And give it a break. In a few weeks the "afterglow" from the Cup win will fade, and then you can delete to your heart's content. Wahkeenah 18:55, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Just because the Hurricanes won the Cup doesn't mean that Wikipedia's rules on verification have been suspended. This remains an encyclopedia, no matter how many people in Raleigh have warm fuzzy feelings right now.  Ravenswing 21:21, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Calling this pretentious weblog an "encyclopedia" is a bit of a stretch. Wahkeenah 23:10, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * You're using the section to take a jab at another fan base. Unless you have references that directly attribute the "Redneck" phenom specifically to Sabres fans, I suggest you be general about it origins. As far as I can tell the whole thing was spearheaded by a "local" tshirt company based in Florida . ccwaters 14:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Calling Wikipedia an encyclopedia is nothing less than what it is. You have a long and active involvement with Wikipedia for someone who infers that he's not on board with its purpose.  Ravenswing 17:36, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * This site gives me an outlet for my interest in writing. I get into debates with users about content, as everyone does. But until you all do something to stop IP addresses from wasting countless hours of everyone's time, this site remains a weblog, not a real "encyclopedia". Wahkeenah 17:51, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * So do you have the references I was asking for? ccwaters 11:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Not to your satisfaction. Wahkeenah 11:37, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll wait a while and let other parties chime in before I before edit it. I really don't think what I'm asking for is unreasonable. ccwaters 12:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not merely not unreasonable, it's downright required. I'll edit the section out right now.  If anyone wants to come up with the verifiable sources Wikipedia requires, feel free.  Ravenswing 16:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Where are your sources for the rest of the article??? Wahkeenah 17:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean by unsourced "accusations"??? What accusations? Wahkeenah 18:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * See first comment in this section... ccwaters 19:07, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't see any "accusation", I see city-to-city rivalry banter. What country are you from, anyway? Wahkeenah 19:16, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Does it matter where I from? Accusation, banter, whatever. Its unsourced and has no place here. There are plenty of message boards to discuss behavior of teams' fan bases. ccwaters 19:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I took away the so-called "accusations". If you still have a problem with it, then I must assume that the problem is you. Wahkeenah 01:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Now your complaint is the picture, which is the same one or nearly identical to the one that the fans had on their posters. There is nothing on that picture's page that restricts it to the Andy Griffith Show page, and it illustrates a point made in the paragraph, so according to the way I read the "fair use" gibberish, it qualifies. Also, I don't appreciate the not-so-veiled obscenity in your abbreviation for "Fair Use Criteria". Wahkeenah 02:35, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Its not my shortcut. Never noticed the "obscenity" until you pointed it out. If you take issue with it this is probably a good starting point: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WP:FUC&action=history I'm done. ccwaters 11:12, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Either way, a fan/media fad through one playoff run is trivia, not a major component of the history of the franchise worthy of its own section heading and corresponding TOC entry. I'm relocating it to the trivia section.  VT hawkeye talk to me 19:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Fine. In fact, I beat you to it. Wahkeenah 19:21, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * And you improved on it. Looks good. Wahkeenah 19:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I live in Raleigh, been to every playoff game cept 2, was at game 7...and trust me: the term "Redneck Hockey" is a big deal and definately deserves to be in here.
 * The jealous Edmonton and Buffalo fans on this page would probably call that "original research". If you could find some interesting stuff from WRAL or the News and Observer to post here, that would help reinforce this writeup. :) Wahkeenah 12:31, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Attempting to enforce similar requirements on the Canes' page as on every other NHL team page does not a jealous Buffalo or Edmonton fan make. You may want to spend some time reading other teams' pages (start with Philly, Montreal, Tampa, and Dallas) and taking note of how much similar fan movements are written about.  Wikipedia has standards, and no matter how much we love the team and enjoy the associated stuff, the page needs to stick to them.  By the way, I attended my first Canes game on October 31, 1997, and I've worn my Erik Cole jersey in arenas where there were more guys in our colors on the ice than in the stands.  VT hawkeye talk to me 15:07, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Then maybe you could help with the research on this point. I don't want to make too big of a deal about it, I just don't like the ignorant ones' approach of trying to suppress the fan-specific info as if it didn't exist. Wahkeenah 16:19, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it's acknowledged, and sourced, just fine as it is now: a paragraph in the Trivia section with a proper   link to substantiate claims of a recent phenomenon. Neither ccw nor RGT are ignorant, nor do I believe they're haters; both have spent quite a lot of time on this article in particular, on the hockey WikiProject linked above (take a look), and on Wikipedia in general.  They (and I) are trying to enforce standards for team articles that make this article, and all the others, look better.  It's not personal (a lesson I had to learn through a bunch of rv'd edits as well, coming from E2 as I did); you'll have much more fun, and success, if you don't make it that way.  VT hawkeye talk to me 19:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The manner in which that information was attacked displayed the all-too-typical arrogance of a number of editors on this website. However, this trivia seems to have found its proper spot in the article, so it's probably time to stop flogging this pretty-much-dead horse. Wahkeenah 05:59, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The manner in which that (at the time quite unsourced) "information" was defended displayed quite a bit of arrogance, as to that; it takes some stones to come onto a website, express your contempt for it and its rules, and declare those suggesting the rules be enforced arrogant. It is, of course, from a glance at your Talk page, all-too-typical, and probably isn't going to change any time soon, WP:CIVIL or otherwise.  Then again, when bandwagoning outsiders wander off, the project locals will still be around.  Ravenswing 06:23, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I never fire the first shot, nor do I raise the "civility" flag like some do when I fire back at them when they cop their I-know-better-than-you-do attitude. Wahkeenah 04:21, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

"Hurricanes suck"?
Technically speaking, Hurricanes blow and Oilers suck. How's that for neutrality? >:) Wahkeenah 23:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Trivia section
My edits to the trivia section regarding the RDU Airport and "Redneck Hockey" were deleted. Apparently this was because of the use of "weasel words" and not adhering to NPOV. As far as the airport fact goes, this is something that has been well-documented by the media. If a citation was wanted, I can find one. The commments I added about "Redneck Hockey" are indeed true - most Hurricanes fans were tired of being seen as second-class by fans in other hockey cities, and "Redneck Hockey" was a backlash. This might not be documented extensively in the papers, but I can tell you, as a fan of the Hurricanes for many years, that statement is 100% fact. (I know that I am a fan of this particular team, but I am not going to disrespect Wikipedia by adding things I know aren't 100% true - my additions were not a result of team bias.) It is not meant to be a shot at fans of any other team - it is simply an important piece of background information into something that others apparently feel is significant enough to mention in this article. I saw no "weasel words" in that statement. By the way, it was NOT started by a Florida t-shirt company, as one user claimed above - the same company also made shirts that said "Caniacs," a term that was in use WAY before the 2006 playoff run. Feel free to put a "citation needed" tag on those items, and I will try my best to find them. I don't see why it would be better to place a "citation needed" tag on those statements rather than to delete them outright. For now, I'm reverting the page back to the way it was, since I see no reason that what I posted was not worth mentioning. User:152.3.83.224 06:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC) Well, I didn't notice the airport thing. I didn't intentionally revert that, sorry. I would probably word it a little better though: "wee hours" isn't very encyclopedic. As far as the sentence: The slogan was also intended to be a proverbial "slap in the face" to those who wanted to see hockey fail in the South or claimed that Carolina fans were less hockey-savvy than more "established" northern teams. Most importantly, its just a redundant and more inciteful restatement of the sentence directly preceding it...  During the 2006 playoffs, some Carolina media and fans adopted the slogan "Redneck Hockey" parodying a stereotype of Southern culture and the region's image as a non-traditional hockey market. I would contend that WP:WEASEL applies to the phrase more "established" northern teams. What are the qoutes implying? Who are you quoting?. What's a proverbial "slap in the face". What proverb are we referencing? ccwaters 11:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I have also had problems with the pedants on this page. I was rooting hard for the 'Canes, but I don't live in the area. If you could find some references to this topic, say at WRAL or in the News and Observer, it would really help shut them up. Wahkeenah 06:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Please don't call them "pedants" - we all can respectfully disagree. Name-calling will not get anyone to support us on this issue. However, I understand your frustration, especially considering how closely I follow this team. I will find references from WRAL, the N&O, or other sources when I can. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.3.83.224 (talk • contribs)
 * If you were to read the attitude they copped about it, you would see what I'm getting at. Good luck finding info. I especially would like to find something in writing that refers to what I saw on WRAL-TV while visiting NC during the Buffalo series... how Buffalo fans thought they "deserved" to win more than NC fans. Wahkeenah 07:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

ccwaters 11:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Duly noted on the "wee hours" thing - you are right, that phrasing isn't very encyclopedic. I'll change it to "after midnight." As for the other sentence, I put that in there because the first sentence made the whole thing seem very spontaneous, as if the fans just woke up one morning and decided to do the whole "Redneck Hockey" thing without any provocation. However, I can see how the sentence would be a bit inciteful and unencyclopedic. When I say "proverbial," I mean that "slap in the face" is an oft-used phrase to describe someone or some group's effort to annoy someone else or another group. However, I definitely agree that the wording could be better. As for the "established" thing - that could have gone without quotes, sorry about that.

How about if I did this:

"...and the region's image as a non-hockey market, in response to some opposing fans contending that Carolina fans were less hockey-savvy or less dedicated than other fans due to their status as fans of a Southern team."

I'll change that, I think that sounds a lot better and more encyclopedic/respectful. If anyone else has problems with that, feel free to tell me about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.3.83.224 (talk)
 * I think you're on the right track. Its a little wordy though. Anyway, is this something that was around before that just blew up in the playoffs or is it really a direct response to something? There are references to a TV news clip: I can only imagine a drunk face-painted Sabres fan spewing smack on camera. If it was really that influential, I'm sure you can find it at youtube. ccwaters 15:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It actually was a direct response that popped up for the first time during the 2006 playoffs. Unlike the term "Caniacs," the "Redneck Hockey" slogan was not in use at all before that.

Franchise Records
I edited out the franchise record added by 69.60.229.47 regarding the Canes being one of 5 NHL Teams not to have ever been swept in a playoff series. If the franchise individual records are going to include records earned by the Hartford Whalers teams, then the team records should also include them. As such, Hartford was swept in the playoffs twice by Montreal in franchise history, the first being a 3 game sweep in 1979/80 and the second time in a 4 game series in 1988/89.Fran —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pparazorback (talk • contribs) 02:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC).

Hurricanes captain ,2004-05
Hello Darthflyer. The NHL captains are listed by 'PERSON' not by 'SEASON', as a result during the calender years 'March 2004 to September 2005' the Hurricanes had no captain. During the 2004-05 NHL lockout, the Hurricanes franchise (still) existed. So please stop removing that fact from the 'Team captains' section. GoodDay 01:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC) :Forget it, do what you want 'Darthflyer'. GoodDay 02:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I've added 2004-05 NHL lockout tag -example: (Lockout) . This helps explain why the Hurricanes captaincy was vacant during that time. GoodDay 16:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Trivia Section
"The abbreviation 'Canes is often used, as with the teams of the University of Miami and Lethbridge of the WHL, whose teams have long been known as the Hurricanes."

^^^I think this can be removed entirely, as it seems to be of minor importance and also is kinda straightforward. Also, I think the two wrestling tidbits can be combined into one trivia comment. Another thing I think needs to happen is a Jersey section, describing the team's jerseys. The third-jersey trivia can be put into this section. The team mascot needs to be mentioned too. The last trivia comment, refering to the team missing the playoffs and the distinctions that go with it, I think can go into that final paragraph talking about this past season. If we can fit some of these trivia things into the main text, then I think the article will be better put-together. Love each other, or perish. ~Auden 04:55, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Jersey Numbers
Mike Sundheim, Media Relations Director for the Carolina Hurricanes, noted in his blog on the official site that Matt Cullen will in fact be wearing number 8 next season and Tim Gleason will wear number 42. Source: http://hurricanes.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NHLPage&id=2412 Atomicbalm 03:07, 19 August 2007 (UTC)atomicbalm
 * Thanks. Have been looking for that source and did not see the media blog which confirmed that change.  I will correct the roster template if it has not already been fixed showing the change.  Pparazorback 03:54, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Franchise History
In the section that discusses the team's two years in Greensboro, it says: "With attendance routinely falling below 3,000 for many games, Sports Illustrated ran a story titled "Natural Disaster", and ESPN anchors mocked the "Green Acres" of empty seats; in a 2006 interview, Karmanos admitted that "as it turns out, Greensboro was probably a mistake."

The lowest reported attendance for a Hurricanes home game was 5,516on November 23, 1997, a 3-3 tie with the Calgary Flames. The average attendance for 97-98 was 9,108 and in 98-99 it was 8,188. Not only was attendance not "routinely" 3,000, it had never been below 5,000 for even one game.
 * "Official" attendance records include season ticket totals and comps; they don't necessarily reflect actual game attendance.   Ravenswing  19:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

That is true for all attendance figures in sports. What evidence is there that they routinely drew 3,000? This number is thrown out there as fact even though there is no evidence to support it. The only documented attendance figures there are to go on are the numbers the teams submit to the NHL. Unless someone went through the stands and counted how many people were there each night and they "routinely" came up with 3K, this number doesn't really have a place in the entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.28.247.151 (talk) 21:57, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

 * http://cgi.cnnsi.com/features/1997/weekly/cover/1027/index.html Finding that article might be a start. ccwaters (talk) 22:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Carolina Hurricanes seasons
I have put Carolina Hurricanes seasons up for WP:FLC. I am asking if anyone has any photos of the Hurricanes that they can put on wikipedia. Preferably a pic of the arena and/or with the Stanley Cup. No action shots, just a good clean image. Please shoot me a message on my talkpage if you have one. Thanks,  P G Pirate  23:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Undue weight
For pity's sake, the section on the 2006 playoffs is larger than all the rest of the team's history combined. If no one beats me to it by tomorrow, I'm trimming it a LOT.  Ravenswing  20:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Trivia section: gone
I've whacked it, integrating as much as I could (and believed important, in historic perspective: e.g. the loudness, tailgating and airport stuff from '02 has stuck, "Redneck Hockey" from '06 has not) into the team history section. Some of it was already duplicated, i.e. the playoff-missing stuff and gale flag. Need a cite for the Don Cherry comment; I remember news reports clearly, but got nothing linkwise at the moment.  VT  hawkeye talk to me 02:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

neutrality
There are still a number of harsh words in this article which are tipping the scales of neutrality. Judgmental words like "lackluster" and phrases like "made national waves" appear to be the opinion of the editor rather than based on 3rd party sources. Opinions?
 * True, but so are most sports related articles. Not that that makes it right. The bigger issue really is the near total lack of inline references.68.221.254.57 (talk) 00:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Since the original flagger has not responded, I am going to remove the flags from the article. This article is certainly not any worse than most other articles in its class. It could use some cleanup, but it's not overly problematic. If I'm wrong, I'll repent on my deathbed. 68.221.254.65 (talk) 23:08, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Copyright on YouTube
There is a video on YouTube that has the description as the exact first two paragraphs in the box. I have tried to have it be changed but no third party may do so. Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RFaSLb05hs&feature=related —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.9.43.22 (talk) 23:44, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Josef Vasicek
Are there any sources which state that his number is "out of circulation," or has it merely not chanced to be assigned to anyone else yet, given that it's an unusual high number?  Ravenswing  13:11, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No sources that I'm aware of. Given that the players are wearing "63" memorial patches on their uniforms this season, I doubt anyone will use that number this year. That doesn't mean it's "out of circulation" like Chiasson's #3, though. I think the statement's speculative. JTRH (talk) 14:21, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

initial version of new uniforms
Initial version of the new uniforms for 2013/14 is now available in the Hebrew version of this article. Tdunsky (talk) 05:59, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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Relocation rumors
There has been rumors of team relocation for like 5 years now, the Hurricanes are thought to plan on moving to Charlotte or Norfolk, VA, even as far away as Houston and Quebec city. Due to the team losing money in the 2010s and having the NHL's lowest payroll, In the case of Quebec, Canada once had the Quebec Nordiques until 1995 when that team moved to Denver, Colorado to become the Colorado Avalanche. http://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/montreal-canadiens/hickey-on-hockey-relocation-winds-swirl-around-carolina-hurricanes 67.49.89.214 (talk) 14:34, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't disagree that there are such rumors. I do disagree that they're at all noteworthy, for a team article or anywhere else on Wikipedia.  Such rumors have been made about the Panthers, the Lightning, the Predators, the Senators, the Penguins ... heck, there's a rumor involving the Coyotes every other week.  We're not required to react every time a sportswriter on deadline parrots the latest codswallop about how the Hometown Team is going to move there ...   Ravenswing   20:57, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

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heritage uniforms
The Hurricanes will wear heritage uniforms, with Hartford Whalers insignia, for two home games this season. Does that qualify them to be drawn alongside the other uniforms in the article's infobox? Tdunsky (talk) 11:49, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

The First Two Years in North Carolina
There is a lengthy and almost entirely uncited account of the team's first two years in North Carolina, much of which seems overly dramatic. I edited two dubious claims. First, the Dorton Arena in Raleigh was described as "totally inadequate, even for temporary use." It is actually a landmark building and a famous piece of architecture. It may not have been a suitable home for an NHL team in the late 1990s, but merely because it wasn't big enough. In 1997 and even now, it is a fine building which is used for a wide variety of events, including minor-league hockey. I also decided to say that the team chose to move to Greensboro instead "was forced to move," because there were other buildings in North Carolina (or even South Carolina) which could have housed a hockey team. This whole section needs more work. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 14:38, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the cleanup, I'll try my best to work on it. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 14:43, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I read "was forced to play in Greensboro" as meaning there was no suitable temporary site in Raleigh. JTRH (talk) 15:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

1971 or 1972
We have "1971" as the franchise's founding year, in the intro & yet "1972" as the founding year, in the infobox. GoodDay (talk) 15:03, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * They're both "right", in that the franchise was established in 71, but started play in '72. Saying that, the lead could be edited to better clarify that fact.

 * That said, with regards to the infobox, at least afaik, there's seems to be a consensus in place to put the year the team started play/"operations" in the founded year parameter. Personally I feel if that is the case, that specific parameter needs to be reworded (to not "Founded") to better reflect the info its showing... Though that seems like a discussion that should take place in the project's talk page. Leventio (talk) 15:55, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Something for WP:HOCKEY, indeed. GoodDay (talk) 22:52, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2024
Can anyone please update the History section by adding the 2022–23 and 2023–24 seasons? I want it updated to now. Can someone update it? Please. 2601:40A:8400:1820:5417:371B:E1C8:B388 (talk) 00:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Wracking  talk! 00:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I just want the history section of the page updated to 2024, please. 2601:40A:8400:1820:C8B7:2282:B525:2B06 (talk) 13:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

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Neutraubling

Neutraubling is a town in the state of Bavaria in southern Germany, in the district of Regensburg.

The town has only existed since 1951. After the second world war, displaced ethnic Germans from Sudetenland (Czech Lands) or former eastern territories of Germany (Poland) settled in the ruins of the bombed military airport. Today, it is a more or less important industrial site.

During the Second World War, Neutraubling was used as an airbase and factory for the Messerschmitt aircraft manufacturing company.

Between the end of 1940 and April 23, 1945, the factory was able to house up to 2,750 slave laborers at a time.

Between 20 February 1945 and 26 April 1945, inmates of Flossenbürg concentration camp were held there until forced into a 'death march' to Dachau concentration camp.

Even today, it is possible to find relics of the early history of Neutraubling and its airbase past. For example, what is known as the "Schlangenbau", which is now home to people from various nations all over the world, was the command centre of the airbase. The small pond located next to the Schlangenbau was used as a water reservoir for the airbase fire brigade.

Even the Catholic church there still harbours various signs of the past. It is said that parts of the wall of the church were taken from a destroyed hangar. The main road leading through the city itself has its roots in one of the World War II airstrips.

Despite Neutraubling's earliest roots dating back to the stone age period, it can't compete with Regensburg's rich history. Neutraubling also provides a fully fledged education infrastructure starting with three kindergartens up to a grammar school. Furthermore, Neutraubling is also home to various medium-sized and internationally operating enterprises, e.g. Krones, which has its very roots in this city. Nightlife in Neutraubling is what can be expected from a city of only 13,000 inhabitants.

Mayors since 1951

 * Hans Herget (SPD) 1951-1965
 * Herbert Scholz, (1923-2007), (Free Voters) 1965-1988
 * Eleonore Mayer (SPD) 1988-June 2006
 * Heinz Kiechle (CSU) July 2006-April 2020
 * Harald Stadler (Free Voters) May 2020-present

Local council
The local council has 24 members.

(Elections of the year 2014)
 * CSU: 10 seats
 * SPD: 4 seats
 * Active citizens: 5 seats
 * Free voters: 5 seats

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Talk:Florida Panthers

New Uniforms and Categorie
When can we expect the new uniform unveiled today to be put on here? And why is this part of the Miami project when they are based in Sunrise, FL? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Halofanatic333 (talk • contribs) 00:33, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

The Alternate jersey has been retired, needs to be removed from picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.2.246.20 (talk) 17:19, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

List of Florida Panthers players
I have started a List of Florida Panthers players. When you add new players to the main Panthers article, could you aslo please add them to the list. Thanks! Masterhatch 10 August 2005

The rat story
Could we include info about the rats being thrown in-game during the 95-96 season? More info http://www.darsys.com/panth/pfaq.html fourth story down.

Current Squad
moved to article ccwaters 14:06, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Season by season record
Why was the season by season record removed? Other NHL team articles have them. Brandon W 13:12, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I put it back up, and don't know why it was taken down. Unless somone can give a good reason to remove it, I think it's best left on there. I also updted all of the stats for this past season and added a footnote that there are no more Ties, as of this past season.AriGold 13:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

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Regarding the addition of four citation requests to the 1996-98 portion of the article:

e Miami Herald or the Sun Sentinel web-archives back to 1996 but if they did there would have been source material for it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wayman975 (talk • contribs) 13:35, 6 October, 2006 (UTC).
 * Stu Barnes was a highly popular member of the first few Florida Panther teams. This was not simply my opinion, this is fact, with the proof being in the immediate reaction of the fans, newspapers and radio immediately after the trade, but unfortunately there's not a paper trail. The further dissertation would have been the slope that the Panthers season took following that trade, but that would have been harder to prove. Neither 1290<MShtd
 * They WERE questionable moves at best. Chris Wells never panned out and was out of the league two yers later and Kirk Muller, who was brought in for the playoff stretch, scored 2 goals in 15 games.
 * I'm going to assume "mediocrity" is the word in question for a cite tag. The first two years, in spite doing better than most expansion teams, they were a sub-.500 team that didn't make the playoffs. The 5th year, they were 24-43-15, which is bad enough to not make the playoffs, but not bad enough to be considered the worst.
 * Bryan Murray's tenure as head coach was a dissapointment on paper and a disaster for anyone who lived through it. So again, to say it didn't aid matters is a bold understatement. It's not an NPOV violation if it's clear this was a bad team we're talking about. The winless streak being a citation for that in and of itself. So to cite-flag it is like asking for a source citation that the sun rises in the east.

 * From Wikipedia's official guideline: The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. So unless you can provide good sources to verify these claims, they should not be included in the article. The tags let other editors know that references are needed. The other alternative would be just completely removing the sentences, but often it is better to wait a while to see if appropriate sources can be found. Also, it is unreasonable to state that there is no paper trail for newspaper articles about the trading of Barnes. They may not have the quick, 1-minute access like many online sources have, but trust me, sources can be found if they existed. --Muéro(talk/c) 17:02, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

And I did exactly what you asked me to do. I even went as far as to find citations that were in the preview-to-archive portion of the text so that it was in black and white. Based on that, there was no reason for the reversion. Wayman975 18:43, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I explained the reversion on your talk page. --Muéro(talk/c) 19:29, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Nieuwendyk & Gelinas
Concerning future edits, with Nieuwendyk often injured/day-to-day; is Gelinas wearing an 'A' only in Nieuwendyks' absence? Or is Gelinas a 'fifth' alternate captain for the Panthers? (five alternates on a team are uncommon, though possible). GoodDay 15:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It think I may have jinxed Nieuwenyk, with this edit question. Joe Nieuwendyk has announced his retirement today. GoodDay 01:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Florida-alternate.gif
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 * Fixed. Resolute 13:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Superscript 190.4.78.163 (talk) 19:50, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Comments
NO jersey section. This is important for a professional sports team. Also, the team mascot needs to be mentioned. Another thing is that their one and only Stanley Cup run is not detailed enough, imo. That post-season section (1996) needs to be larger and filled with more passion. Love each other, or perish. ~Auden 00:56, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Florida Panthers
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Florida Panthers's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "SI": From Dany Heatley:  From Winnipeg Jets:

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:22, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ -DJSasso (talk) 12:14, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

New Logo
Can the logo be replaced by SVG version found from NHL website? There are SVG versions of all teams if you just change FLA to another teams abbreviation. http://cdn.nhle.com/nhl/images/logos/teams/FLA_logo.svgz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.250.162.12 (talk) 16:25, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

New uniforms
I created a version of the new uniforms for the Hebrew version of this article. Feel free to use it. Keep in mind that Hebrew is written right to left, so the order of the home and away uniforms is reversed. Tdunsky (talk) 14:36, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Rory Babich
Rory Babich article should be merged with this article. Babich appears insufficiently globally notable for a standalone article. Quis separabit? 18:42, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2024 by P4NTHER
I was about to make a fix on the page, On June 24. Somebody I edited it only. Somebody was editing it too! 189.174.145.87 (talk) 22:36, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Your request is unclear. GoodDay (talk) 22:51, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Awwwwwwwwwww sh- 69.128.201.5 (talk) 11:39, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Here we go again… 69.128.201.5 (talk) 11:39, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Tampa Bay Lightning

List of Tampa Bay Lightning players
I have started a List of Tampa Bay Lightning players. When you add players to the main Lightning article, could you also add the same players to the list? Thanks! Masterhatch 10 August 2005

who is roger posgate? he is not on the official roster of the bolts and also not on the recent game rosters.. If nobody will give an answer I will cancel him from the list. Xerxes MF

Capacity at the Forum?
What is the actual capacity for hockey games at the Forum? I've seen 3 different numbers ranging from 19,500 to over 21,000. - AEJ 19:50, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Esposito as HHOF?
I know I don't normally do this but should Phil Esposito be listed as a builder in the HHOF section for the lightning? Payne2thamax
 * That depends, has Esposito been re-inducted into the HHOF as a builder? If not, he shouldn't be added. GoodDay 20:39, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Tampa Bay Lightning seasons
The full season by season history was split out as part of a project to give each team a uniform article style, regardless of how old the franchise is. For the sake of consistancy, I would oppose merging it back into this article. Resolute 13:39, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Resolute. Keep the article as is.Darthflyer 23:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Current season tag
No other team's page has the current season tag visible yet, so why should it be visible on this page and not any other? I just think it should be uniform for all teams. --69.119.12.38 03:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You are indeed correct. I have since hidden it.  Bsroiaadn Talk 04:04, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Resolute keeps adding the tag back. --69.119.12.38 03:52, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, I restored it once. There is no reason why it shouldn't be shown, given the current free agent activities are part of the current season.  Uniformity is easily attained by unhiding the tag for all 30 articles. Resolute 04:11, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Lightning Sold - August 7, 2007
We've been sold - announced this morning - http://lightning.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=335682. I made a note in the Palace Sports article but I'm not as familiar with the formatting of the sports/NHL articles and don't won't to FUBAR it. Anyone more gutsy than me?

Dyevochka 14:13, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

The owner spot has been changed to Oren Koules but I wonder if it should be OK Hockey since that is technically the owner. Koules is just the head of that enterprise. Asatruar (talk) 23:32, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Jersey Section
Needs to be added, complete with photos and info. Also, the team mascot needs to be mentioned somewhere. Love each other, or perish. ~Auden 05:07, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Logo and jersey section could be changed to a simpler "uniforms" section. It could also better showcase the jerseys worn, or at least be a little more descriptive. Nick.b23 (talk) 14:13, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Adding More References
Does anyone else share my opinion that the article needs more references, and possibly adding the references template? Tampabay721 (talk) 20:08, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Biggest Arena in the NHL?
Do you think that the Tampa Bay Lightning home arena has the bigget arena in the NHL? It says it can fit 26,00 people can fin in it,that its capasity!. User:panicpack121 19:39, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * They can put about 23,000 at most in for hockey with standing room. That is indeed the largest arena in the NHL.  Detroit and Montreal are the only two other teams that have arenas with capacities over 20,000.  Calgary did as well until renovations in 1994. Resolute 02:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Captain & alternate captains
Does anybody have an exact date on if/when the Lightning stripped Taylor of the captaincy? I know at the beginning of the season, the team announced Taylor (despite his long-term injury) would still be the captain for the season. GoodDay (talk) 17:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Theres a story at the Lightning official website called 'Lightning captain Tim Taylor To Sign For Charity' date March 28, 2008. Thus Taylor is still captain. GoodDay (talk) 17:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Does anybody know, who took over as a third alternate captain, after Richards got traded? GoodDay (talk) 00:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I would keep an eye on this though since I am 90% sure that I heard that Taylor has retired and did not play a game all of the 07-08 season. I am sure though that I would have heard of a new captain being named but have not heard anything yet. Asatruar (talk) 04:41, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * There's scarcely a rush, and especially with the probability of a new coach, I expect that's going to be a training camp decision.  Ravenswing  12:42, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Lightning 08-09 Schedual
The Lightning released their new schedual last week sometime. They will be opening the season in Prague against the Rangers for 2 games. They will also be playing a preseason game with a German team, Eisbarn Berlin, on Sep 28th. I thought that this is something out of the ordinary and I can't remember it having happend in the past so it might be something that we would add to the article. Here is the link to the preseason schedual http://lightning.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=368532 Discuss. Asatruar (talk) 18:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

 * If it were me adding it in there, I'd add short bit for a future "2008-09 season" section about how they played those non-NHL teams and opened the season overseas for the first time in franchise history. Same goes for the 2008-09 Tampa Bay Lightning season article. Nothing too special. Just a little mention of it. Tampabay721 (talk) 03:43, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Closest Division Rival
Hey all. Just wanted to let you know that in the "Early Years" subsection of the Team History section of the article, I changed the statement about Tampa's closest division rival in its first year of existence being Detroit to Tampa's closest division rival being St. Louis. According to Mapquest, the distance between the Expo Hall (where the Bolts played) and the St. Louis Arena where the Blues played is 1015 miles, while Joe Louis Arena in Detroit is 1165 miles away from the Expo Hall and Chicago Stadium is 1173 miles away. Minnesota and Toronto are obviously both further away than those three cities, so I think that disqualifies them as being the closest division rival of the Bolts. Cheers. Gujuguy (talk) 15:08, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

infobox
Can someone please fix the home/away jersey picture in the infobox?

Thanks, 4to3rw —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4to3redwings (talk • contribs) 21:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Restored the image. Thanks for the heads up! Resolute 22:42, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Sold
Jeff Vinik has agreed to purchase the Lightning. http://lightning.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=516376&cmpid=tbl-ext:fb —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.144.33.177 (talk) 17:43, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

new team colors, logo, and unis
Yes, the Lightning introduced new duds this week. However, as I understand it, they won't be wearing the new uniforms or using the new logos until next season. Shouldn't the old logos and such still be listed and displayed in this article as the official versions until then? The soon-to-be-used versions should definitely be shown in the "Uniforms" section, but technically, they're not yet "current". Zeng8r (talk) 00:36, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

 * I would have to agree. The current look may be a lame duck right now, but it is what it is... the current look. Tampabay721 (talk) 04:17, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

While not featured on the current jerseys, the new logo is the official logo currently. As of at least the game yesterday (4 February 2011) against the Washington Capitals, Sun Sports began using it in their broadcasts and the logo now appears at centre ice at the St. Pete Times Forum. I think the current jerseys should obviously be shown as the new ones won't be in use until the 2011-12 season, but the team logo should probably be the one that now appears to be used in all official contexts except for on the jerseys. --MMAACKS (talk) 08:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

This is a very weird situation. While it's true that the team website and local television broadcasts are using the new logo, the NHL website from what I can tell doesn't, nor did Versus during their broadcast of this past Tuesday's game against Buffalo. Tampabay721 (talk) 07:33, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

The Lighting's website is using the new logo, which I think should be taken as official, the logo here should be switched over. Sedna1000 (talk) 10:14, 11 May 2011 (UTC)Sedna1000

I was getting ready to make the switch now that the season is over, but I can't seem to find a file of the new logo. Tampabay721 (talk) 19:58, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

I think we should have a picture of their old primary logo in the article (and possibly the old jerseys as well) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.95.22.72 (talk) 06:37, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

 * Both of the old logos are already in there. As for the old jerseys, I wouldn't mind either way if they were in there or not, but I'm not aware if they can even be put in there since the current file in the infobox is an updated version of the file the old ones were on. Tampabay721 (talk) 02:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Headers
Can we get a consensus or something on the titles for the headers? Because the one for this year is getting changed way too often. Tampabay721 (talk) 03:57, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I think there needs to be more than just a change in the headers. A separate section for every individual season is not only unneeded, but actively degrades the quality of the article.  This one should briefly discuss important events in only a couple sentences, and leave greater detail for the season articles.   As far as the headers go, they pretty much all need to be changed.  There's too much editorializing going on. Resolute 05:00, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree. The 2006-07 section is mostly unchanged since I first added it 7 years ago, and some random deadline trades shouldn't have passed a one year test, much less a WP:Ten year test. It's about time some of these seasons get cut down and put together. Tampabay721 (talk) 17:26, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It still needs changing. The headers seem to be very....colorful.  -Xcuref1endx (talk) 23:20, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Plus/Minus Leader, 2014–15 winner?
I know that the league no longer gives out the NHL Plus-Minus Award, but should there be some sort of acknowledgement of Nikita Kucherov being tied as the plus/minus leader in 2014–15? Along that line of thought, what about NHL assists leader, which I believe Martin St. Louis has twice finished top of table while with Tampa Bay. Just putting these topics up for discussion. Regards to all. -Creativewill (talk) 14:09, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Early History section
I think we should have a divide for the ownership struggles and the team's on-ice performance, either within history or in a separate section. Also, the language has to be seriously cleaned up: liens aren't "slapped," and readers can make up their mind as to blame instead of having it repeatedly stated. Knoper (talk) 15:08, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

2016-17
I added section on 2016-17 season

2017-18
Call the section 2017–18 as 2017–18 season: Back to the Eastern Conference Finals as they were eliminated during the Conference finals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:5D47:EB89:7050:690C:107D:FB5D (talk) 11:14, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2021
The lightning play in amalie arena in Tampa Florida not tropicana field in Saint Petersburg Florida Brandon0513 (talk) 06:47, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * not sure what you would change? In the early years the Lightning played at the Florida Suncoast Dome, aka the ThunderDome, aka Tropicana Field. Now they play their home games at Amalie Arena. That's well documented in this article.  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 16:26, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Narrative tone rather than encyclopedic tone
Hello,

I just edited a few sections in this page, primarily making copy edits so the page would not sound as much like a curated narrative. This was written with a lot of biased language, which I tried to neutralize wherever possible.

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Mirian II

Mirian II (მირიანი) or Mirvan (მირვანი) (c. 90–20 BC) was a king (mepe) of Iberia (Kartli, eastern Georgia) from 30 to 20 BC. His reign marked the reinstatement of the Nimrodid Dynasty, a continuation of the P'arnabazids.

Mirian is known solely from the early medieval Georgian chronicles according to which he was the son of king P'arnajom murdered by his son-in-law, the Armenian Artaxiad prince Artaxias I of Iberia who usurped the crown of Iberia. Mirian was carried to Parthia, there to be brought up at the court. He returned with a Parthian army, killed Arshak's reigning grandson Bartom in battle and became king. He was succeeded by his son, Arshak II.

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