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Talk:The Apprentice (American TV series) season 4

A Plea For Spolier Tags
Hello - Although it seems to have finished in the US this season has not completed its run in many other countries (it is shown globally). I came here for a quick bit of info on the series and the first part of the article ruined many future surprises and events for me. I'd greatly appreciate some spolier tags and some introductory information that doesn't give away important information. This is the practice for many other TV show articles (even quite old ones) and i'm sure there have been others in my boat who accidentally read a bunch of spoilers when they first visited this article.

Cheers MagicBez 13:41, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I appreciate someone inserting spolier tags but right at the start of the article before the tags it tells you when every contestant was fired. Surely it's possible to have an introduction to the teams and the show without filling it with spoilers? MagicBez 18:33, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Funny Enough
That was the episode that was aired today. Jack Cox 02:06, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Obviously the scoop that I read was correct. --Madchester 17:49, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Redirects
Does anyone think that the names of the contestants should redirect to this page? CoolGuy 02:57, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Week 7
I think Clay's exact words were "tight Jew," not "tight-ass Jew." Can anyone verify? Ian 04:30, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

 * After Adam made the comment about not wanting to spend the money on dinner, Clay said "Remember, he is the shy, tight Jewish Boy".

No Exemptions should have a reason
I have noted that people have not been putting reasons why People have not been exempt from getting fired on the next coming task. From this point on, I would highly appreciate it if people put the reason why a Project Manager isn't exempt from getting fired on the next coming task. The reason for Clay not being exempt from getting fired on the next coming task is because key reason being that Alla felt that Clay gave Alla too much work to do, Clay not functioning well as Project Manager, Clay's team didn't like him, and Clay did too little to stand up for the team, and didn't too much to keep the team together. — Vesther 03:18, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Three Multiple-Firings!!!
It's true—Season 4 sets the record for the most multiple-firings in one season of the Apprentice. I thought that Felisha will be the only one fired for Week 11, but after the Donald told Alla to "sit down for one moment", Donald landed a heavy blow by also firing Alla before she left. What a surprise that was—Capital Edge is probably the first team to be completely jettisoned as well. — Vesther 03:39, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * He snapped "Sit, Alla" as she was getting up. I wonder what the big suprise is next week. IceDrake523 22:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I really doubt that there's going to be a one-on-one interview session with four prominent executives (with companies contributing a lot of money for the economy) now that Randal and Rebecca are left standing. — Vesther 04:57, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Purged unconfirmed Markus Garrison Information
I don't know whether or not Markus Garrison is actually "married" to Clay Lee, but I really can't have that in this article because it's not confirmed information. Also, I did some rebuffs as well. — Vesther 23:07, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Use of Sprint iDEN Phones
I saw instances where candidates had to use a Motorola i860 (I saw Alla, Felisha, Randal, and even Donald Trump using one) just for communication. I think that the Motorola i860 was used ever since Season 3 (I saw Tana used a Motorola i860 on a Yahoo! archived footage). I think the Season 2 Candidates used the Motorola i830. I think the Season 1 candidates used the Motorola i730. I think Season 5 the Donald might have his candidates use a Motorola i870, but sources from Sprint's iDEN Retail Stores state that it's likely either the Motorola i930 or the Motorola i860 that might be used, depending on how much i930's were in stock when the filming took place.

I would like your feedback on what iDEN phone is likely to be used by the candidates for Season 5 of The Apprentice with Donald Trump. I think given that The Donald used an i860 during Week 6 (I'm pretty sure The Donald has plenty of Cell Phones in his sleeve). I have not watched Season One of The Apprentice and I would like to know whether or not the candidates had to use Nextel iDEN Phones throughout the Job Interview. If so, I would like to know or not it's an i730 (given that it's filmed before the i830 was released).

I encourage you to give me your feedback. — Vesther 14:33, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I saw a candidate on The Apprentice: Martha Stewart use an i860 as well. Furthermore, I saw James Caan use an i930 as a prop in Las Vegas, and most of the people in Las Vegas used either an i95cl or an i730. I think currently in Las Vegas, Montecito subordinates use an i760, and the boss uses an i870.

Why Martha Stewart references?
When I come to this page, I only read information for the Trumps version of the Apprentice season 4. I notice this article mentions alot of Stewarts version and it actually gets quite annoying to read through that. Not everyone that watches Trumps version watches the other, if I wanted Stewarts version I would have went to that page. I vote that we remove all mention of Stewart.

 * I agree 100%. Reading through all the records of multiple firings gets confusing and boring. They're 2 completely different shows despite a similar premise. IceDrake523 04:13, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I also agree. It is simply not the right place to talk about Stewart.

 * I also agree. Sue Anne 02:03, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I removed the Martha References. I may have missed some, but got most. IceDrake523 02:42, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Why the poor decision?
I realize this may not be the place for it, but I need to vent to someone. Why did Randal not choose to hire Rebecca as well? What could have been an extremely positive result instead became a season-end shock.

Excellent Season summaries by the way, I applaud the efforts of your contributors to keep such accurate details about our current times.

-- AlexanderYoshi 04:26, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I was under the impression had already made up his mind to hire Rebecca as well. However, he was also asking for Randall's input on the decision. I think Trump got trumped in his own plans when Randall stated his own intentions. Rebecca didn't deserve to publicly humiliated on national television like that. Either hire one or both candidates at once.

Since the Apprentice is simply a PR job, Rebecca did end up calling out Randall for missing out on the big picture. The man hurt his own reputation and image, just 30 seconds after being hired. --Madchester 05:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

You're the one missing the point, it's The Apprentice not Apprentces. There's no way of Randall knowing that his decision would affect Rebecca's hiring. Also what's the point of the finale if Trump hires them both? It's not like that The Aprrentice is the only way to get hired by Trump. Why should Trump hire Rebecca anyway if she lost and was already fired? Because she's a cute girl? A good businessman should have his ethics and principles, and not makes a decision based on popularity.
 * And in South Africa, the boss hired two Apprentices, so it's a moot point in repeating Randall's "justification".
 * Rebecca ironically foreshadowed Randall's weaknesses: the guy misses the big picture. Trump mentioned beforehand that the final boardroom was an important business decision to better his organization as a whole.  Randall missed the mark by blocking another qualified candidate from working on a separate project within the organization; Randall would have retained his perferred Atlantic City position.  Randall let his ego step in the way of his employer's actual wishes.  Bad, bad first impression on the job. --Madchester 16:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I came here after watching the season with exactly this question, and this is a really good point. There's also a Larry King Interview, in which Randell basically displays that he was overwhelmed by the situation, while Trump emphasizes that it was a tough and unpopular, but in the end, rational business decision. But why would it be rational, except as to reduce the pressure of being compared in job performance to her? Your comment, together with the comment of Netoholic below really outlines the situation for me. In the end, Rebecca showcased her strengths while Randall showcased his weakness, providing her with a kind of moral victory - and maybe an overall better career outlook.

 * Her biggest personal "flaw" seems to be to overestimate people's ability to rise above themselves, and it probably ended up helping her in all three instances:
 * defending the unpopular teammate and putting herself at risk, making herself notable early in the game
 * "creative" teammate transferring into her 2-men team, because she probably couldn't have prevented it anyway and inspired a positive attitude
 * the final decision, because it made her look good and redeemed her ability to judge other people's character, as described above
 * --62.206.8.4 05:55, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

 * By you logic, Trump should have hired Kwame, Jen and Tana as well for making it to the finals, even though they lost. This isn't the special Olympics and there is only ONE winner. You could hardly call Rebecca "qualified" when al she did was whine that people should go easy on her because she broke her ankle. Well Randall lost his grandma and I don't see him whine about it. The fact is that Randall never lost as project manager, whereas Rebecca lost and only won when Randall is with her.

 * Trump didn't have to hire Kwame, Jen, and Tana b/c they were the runner-ups. Trump said it himself they both were amazing and outstanding through out the process. Rebecca had physical pain and her injury was unexpected. She never whined about the pain from it, she used it to show how tough she was. IceDrake523 01:22, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

 * True enough... after Trump asked which projects they each preferred (and they chose different ones), he said something like "Well, that makes it easy then". He must have been planning on hiring them both, but with 30 seconds left in the live show, he couldn't recover from Randal's shocker. -- Netoholic @ 16:26, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I see both points of view actually. The show is not called "The Apprentices" (or "the apprenti" as Randal said in his incorrect Latin), so as they used to say in the Highlander films, there can only be one. On the other hand, it would have been chivalrous of Randal to allow Trump to hire Rebecca as well (after all, there were two projects to be supervised, he could have one, and she the other). To his credit, Randal later admitted that he was caught up in the moment when he told Trump not to hire Rebecca. I don't think what happened in the South African version of the show had any impact on the decision.

-- Jalabi99 02:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I know this is a bit dated but I never got to comment on this supposdely "non-discussion message board". Look Randall was the winner because he never lost a project, Rebecca lost all but one project. She was unqualified. Just because she was white and pretty, is no reason for Trump to try to put Randal in a position to feel pressured to hire her also. Like everyone says, if this was the case Trump should have made offers to the previous runner ups and the ones following this series. To my knowledge he still hasn't hired two Apprentices.MPA 16:42, 13 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MPA (talk • contribs)

Randal apologizes
From the front page of his website (http://www.randalpinkett.com/ retrieved 16:38, 16 December 2005 (UTC)): Poor Sportsman I should have just said "Rebecca can be my Apprentice" but I was so caught up in the moment that I was overcome with selfishness. I will spend the rest of my career trying to make up for my incredibly poor image. Please forgive me. Hmm.. -- Netoholic @ 16:38, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

That almost looks as though his site got hacked. The site itself has also become buggy, with certain parts of the site completely torn apart. —the preceding unsigned comment is by Orion Minor (talk • contribs) 16:42, 16 December 2005

 * It's being changed practically as I'm watching. Could be hacking, but I think someone doing that would be less subtle. -- Netoholic @ 16:47, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Randal's site seems to be down.

Anyway, on this morning's Today show, the charitably-challenged Yahoo lady had the nerve to offer Rebecca a job. Katie gushed about wouldn't it be unbelievable if Rebecca said "no," or some such drivel. The ever-poised Rebecca gave her Mona Lisa smile and responded that she would be happy to continue the conversation later. Matt later said that he agreed with Randal's decision but didn't say why. He's all about the selfishness? It was not The Today Show's finest hour.--Knapster2005 19:20, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't see where he apologized, or why he would need to apologize for winning. Why would he ask Trump to hire a completely unqualified contestant who lost all but one of her projects? There appears to be some subtle hints of racism in people's anger at Randal. On winner, one apprentice. That was the case then and it still is.MPA 16:44, 13 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MPA (talk • contribs)

There were two fatal reasons why Randal was chosen first
The key of this final task was to raise money for charity--Randal followed directions in spite of terrible weather, but Rebecca failed to raise money for her charity (if it wasn't for Yahoo! rejecting Rebecca's plans, then both Randal and Rebecca could've been hired) plus neither herself nor her recruits greeted the Donald right off the bat, which is extremely important in Apprentice tradition. Rebecca didn't greet the Donald promptly so I think the two flaws (not raising money for charity, not greeting the Donald right off the bat) were grounds for the Donald to choose Randal first. I would not hire Rebecca mainly because she didn't follow directions on the final task good enough. — Vesther 23:17, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

From what we were shown, Donald gave Randal a warning that he was coming by on helicopter. I didn't see Donald calling Rebecca and telling her he's coming.

 * Rebecca follwed Yahoo's requests of not solely trying to raise money. She may have failed to raise money at the even, but in the end she beat Randal when Yahoo (the sponsor of her event) donated $50,000 to BOTH charities. Not greeting Trump as a reason is just egotistical on his part. He's not God, he can walk a few feet from his limo to the building without someone groveling at his feet. Randal was able to greet him because his team was doing all the work.

 * There's a thing about "The Apprentice". Despite the tendency of most of the tasks given to the candidates being nothing more than free advertising for various companies (e.g. Yahoo!, Microsoft, Home Depot, etc. etc. etc.), the main way for the Donald to assess the teams is on how much money they raise, and he is always very explicit in telling them that right off the bat. If your team doesn't make more money than the other team, your team loses at the task. It's pretty straightforward. So by that assessment, Randal beat Rebecca. He raised $10K+, she didn't raise any. Yes, I understand why she didn't, but the fact is, she didn't. And yes, the fact that Randal had the sense to meet the Donald at the helicopter might have swayed his decision as well. Hard cheese, Rebecca. Jalabi99 01:49, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Week by Week results
Would it make sense to put the teams of the final task in the Week by Week results? Meaning Randal, Josh, Mark and Marshawn as Excel and Rebecca, Chris, James, and Toral for Capital Edge? It could be denoted below the chart they were recruited by the two for the final task. IceDrake523 23:55, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * From my point of view, I don't think it would make any sense since once they are fired, they are fired regardless whether or not they were recruited for the Final "Monster" task. — Vesther 01:56, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

No no no no no no no
Rebecca was actually fired because if you looked at the Yahoo! extended clips very carefully, during the Boardroom battles, Rebecca formed a coalition with Toral throughout the job interview. Randal is extremely impartial but Rebecca has a bad habit of favoring one from another, and she risked getting fired at Week 3, which is the Technology expo. From Yahoo's and NBC's point-of-view, Rebecca got fired after Randal suggested that Trump rescind the decision. A rule is a rule—unless hired, the candidate is fired. Rebecca was FIRED, and I don't want to argue neither have to engage in an edit war. — Vesther 02:24, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I think you're getting a little too heated over this. Regardless of whether it says fired or not hired, the message is the same—She didn't get the job. I personally believe Not Hired is fine and in a way more suitible since it is in a more positive light; Trump was pleased with her performance, admitted the decision was hard (on The Apprentice as well as on other shows when he was a guest) and gave Randal the oppurtunity to hire her as well. IceDrake523 20:17, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

 * OK OK I give up!!! I'll go ahead and say that Rebecca wasn't either hired or fired, but I would have to say "Declared Unfit" or "Turned down" instead.  How about that IceDrake?  I'm just gonna go ahead and say "Turned Down" and "Declared not fit" instead, something that I wouldn't do since the Donald is all about either getting hired or fired. — Vesther 22:59, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I think Not Hired works best since "Unfit" is more with Martha and "Turned Down" delivers the same message but is more consistent. I'll change it to Not Hired for now, but I'm not gonna be the one carrying on an edit war ‐IceDrake523 23:04, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I'll just go ahead and declare Rebecca as being "Turned Down" instead just to avert an Edit War. "Not Hired" makes no sense from my point-of-view, so I'll just say "Turned Down" because Randal suggested that the Donald turn Rebecca down. — Vesther 23:10, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

 * How does "Not Hired" make no sense? I believe tt delivers the same message as Turned Down but is more consistent with the rest of the article.

Vesther has been right all along, the presedent set by all three prior Apprentice Wikipedia pages, and the offical reports by NBC state that the finalist is fired.--Orion Minor 01:03, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

 * But unlike the past 3, the runner-up was never given a chance to be hired by the winner. Everyone who has been labeled "Fired" was fired by Trump. Trump did not Fire Rebecca if he asked Randal for his opinion on hiring her. He obviously was considering it and felt she was well qualified, so Not Fired is suitable. And, honestly, what is the difference between Not Hired and Fired? Either way, she didn't get the job. IceDrake523 02:15, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

 * IceDrake523, there are only two options--Hired or Fired. "NOT HIRED" is NOT an option.  I'm going to say this for the last time. — Vesther 17:50, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

And if you don't believe me go here: http://apprentice.tv.yahoo.com/trump/04/candidates/rebecca.html

 * It is an option. As I've said, Fired and Not Hired deliver the same exact message. The only difference is one is more positive which obviously fits since Trump AND Randal both speak very highly of her. Check the transcript from Larry King, Trump says ''...But I would say this. If for some reason she's not satisfied with those offers, if she called me, you know, I'd be honored to talk to her."

First, look at the big red lettering, then look UP and read the description "offical site on Yahoo!" key word, OFFICIAL. Wikipedia is not where you label things with your personal preference. Just because you like "not hired" better does not make it right.--Orion Minor 01:12, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Actually, the primary source of information is the actual episode itself, and possibly any behind the scenes stuff they uploaded onto the "official" and Yahoo! websites. However, everything else should be deemed as a secondary source whether it's the websites or press releass, etc. While they contain a wealth of information, those sources are written by individuals who did not actually work within the show's production. --Madchester 16:18, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Madchester, there are only two choices--Hired or Fired. NOT HIRED is NOT an option.  If Rebecca is NOT hired, then she's fired!  I don't want to start another edit war again, but you and a guy with an IP Address 70.132.4.170 are really putting a lot of disputes on Rebecca's status.  So Rebecca IS FIRED, and that's that! — Vesther 17:36, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * P.S. Madchester, I really hated the fact that you backed up 70.132.4.70 when you reverted my edit. Unless you watched the television show for yourself, stay out of it!
 * The website and television show are two separate entities. The former is managed by CBS, the latter by Burnett and Trump's respective production companies.  There's inconsistencies in the presentation of information between the two forms of media.  The Amazing Race and it's "official site" on CBS also share similar problems.  I'd rather stick to A)the show or B)cast interviews as the most reliable sources of info.
 * And to Vesther, I'd advise you to keep your cool. Thanks. --Madchester 17:56, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Rebecca's Yahoo! event did earn money
Trump gave rather ambiguous objectives for the task, he never specified when money for the event should be tallied. Rebecca's post-game interviews at TVGuide.com and Fishbowl.com (MP3) all suggest that funds were collected by the Elizabeth Glazer Pediatric Aids Foundation. It's rather silly to believe Trump that out of 200+ VIPs, none of them donated a cent to the charity.--Madchester 16:47, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

The article on the The Apprentice: Season Four is obviously bias toward Rebecca and should be marked as such.

 * Not really considering Trump speaks highly of her and gave Randal the chance to hire her. Every article has some bias too it, this one just has a positive one which will be better than negative towards Randal. IceDrake523 21:17, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Fired or Not Hired? (Dispute Resolution)
I've gotten into a Edit War during the last 4 hours in this article. I really hate to add this but apparently, some people say that Rebecca was "Not Hired" at the night of the Season Finale. However, I disagree with anyone declaring this 5000%. I am in a bad mood today, and I should say that the only valid status of each candidate is either Hired or Fired. "Not Hired" is not a valid choice. Because Rebecca isn't given the job, her status should be "Fired", NOT Not Hired. I am really embarrassed that I had to state this out but frankly, disputes of Rebecca's status here in Wikipedia is making me irritated at this point, since some people rather declare Rebecca "Not Hired" while others rather declare Rebecca as Fired. Like I said, there are only two statuses in Apprentice—Hired or Fired. If you disagree with me, then I would like to hear your voices now. — Vesther 21:59, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

 * If you're in a bad mood, I don't think coming here to continue an edit war is the best thing to do. Both Fired and Not Hired deliver the same message: she didn't get the job. However, Not Hired is more positive which I believe fits since BOTH TRUMP AND RANDAL think highly of her. Trump said on Larry King he'd offer her a job if she came asking. IceDrake523 22:24, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Rebecca said that it was unfortunate when Randal suggested Trump to reject her. Should Randal allowed Trump to hire Rebecca, then I wouldn't have to do this today. — Vesther 22:55, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Also, IceDrake, from my point-of-view, and like I said before, "Not Hired" is not a valid status, that is why I'm trying to follow status conventions of The Apprentice franchise. That is why I prefer to say "Fired unless Hired"—as I'm more skeptical in following conventions more closely than the majority of you who thinks that Rebecca deserved a different status than other "firees". — Vesther 22:57, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I also feel that "Not Hired" sounds too Martha-ish IceDrake523. I really feel that the reason why I was responsible for this Edit War is because I try to follow Donald Trump boundaries when it came to this article.  Don't you think that "Not Hired" sounds a bit too Martha-ish?  Doesn't sound Trump-ish to me. :P — Dark Insanity 05:28, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

 * No. Martha never used Fired and didn't even use Hired on the finale. Read what Trump has said. If Rebecca came to him looking for a job, he'd be willing to discuss it. Besides, does Trump asking a new hiree if he should hire someone else seem Trump-ish? IceDrake523 19:29, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Straw Poll
I think we should come to some general consensus and then stop all the edit wars going on about this. Please cast your vote for "Fired" or "Not Hired" below. Sue Anne 23:46, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Not Hired is my vote. Sue Anne 23:46, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Not Hired obviously IceDrake523 23:48, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Fired is what I conclude — Dark Insanity 00:06, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Not Hired as per the show's finale. --Madchester 00:22, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Not Hired is my vote but I wouldn't mind Fired. Honestly, it's not worth the effort of an edit war. --RealMontrealer 02:34, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Fired Based on the presendent set by all three previous Apprentice documents and the OFFICIAL SITES. Because the show never specified, the sites, even if you (improperly) see them as secondary, they remain the most reliable data on the subject.--Orion Minor 06:20, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Not Hired is what I vote. When someone applies for a job and gets rejected they aren't fired.  Trump never explicitly told Rebecca "You're fired."  Therefore, that is why I think this is more fitting.  --207.200.116.14 00:57, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Fired Based on precedent. The only reason Trump didn't fire Rebecca on the spot is because he considered hiring both. Since Randal talked him out of it, Rebecca was FIRED. Acetic Acid 08:19, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Not Hired Trump never fired Rebecca.  --172.139.255.219 15:01, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Fired If Kwame, Jen, and Tana are mentioned as 'fired' on their pages, why not Rebecca?--211.30.251.13 03:50, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Not Hired It wasn't an ordinary firing, and to classify it like that would be a mistake. --64.12.116.67 17:42, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
 * --This PatCheng comment was deleted at the request of Mark Kim (Reply/Start Talk) 04:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)--
 * Fired If she wasn't hired then she was fired. What's next?  Calling the winner Not Fired? Jtrost 17:15, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Undecided. You can't be fired if you weren't hired in the first place. So, technically, that means NONE OF THE CANDIDATES (except the winner, of course) was fired. But that would mean that the Donald's catchphrase was meaningless. Oh dear. Jalabi99 01:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Not Hired Kind of late, but I just wanted to add my two cents. --Sakano 14:16, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Fired Dated I know, but this isn't a regular job interview.  In every episode before this one, the final conclusion Trump declared "Contestant A you are fired, and Contestant B you are Hired".MPA 16:55, 13 March 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MPA (talk • contribs)

About this "South Africa" Multiple-Hiring Spree

 * (the South African version had a multiple hiring in 2005)

While I admittedly appreciate the contribution by any circumstance, I should point out that anything you put in here should be lying only within the Donald Trump limits. I felt that the italicized text that I have listed was off-topic IMO, and things like that should belong to the General Apprentice article rather than on a Donald Trump season article. — Dark Insanity 15:25, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually Mark Burnett's ultimately responsible for all the basic rules and premise of the show. He's credited as the creator of the program, even in interational broadcasts.  It's up to the local bosses/hosts and producers to decide how to work those rules to their favour. --Madchester 07:57, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Fired!
Yes, yes, the straw poll, containing a surplus of random IP's, would indicate that Rebecca was "not hired." That may have held some weight back when NBC would not comment on the last episode (when a show is over, a network moves on fast). However, I was poking around NBC and found that they have archived the past Apprentice results, and list Rebecca as fired: http://www.nbc.com/The_Apprentice_4/candidates/bio_rebecca.shtml. This is not from Yahoo!, or any other side project, but an official first party report. Now let's fix this long standing error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Orion Minor (talk • contribs) February 26, 2006

De-linking most candidates
I removed most links to the candidates because those that existed are now merely re-directs to this page:. Therefore there really is no point in providing a separate article for each of them anymore. Thanks! 199.111.230.195 00:00, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Spliting "Candidates"
The whole section looks long and tedious. It simply does not stand out. And the information on different candidates is imbalanced, which makes it harder to read. Why don't we make it pretty like The Apprentice 2 candidates? 199.111.230.195 00:18, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I came across this page when I needed to link in Jennifer Murphy. I've done some work on it - pulling it into a table which makes it look more uniform. I like the Apprentice 2 page - perhaps there should be both. I think its important to at least have the candidate names, ages, jobs etc on the main page. PageantUpdater 23:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * My point is that the article definitely needs to be cleaned-up to conform to a higher standard, and I'm seeing a lot of clutter here, so I'm gonna suggest that not only candidates be split up from this article, but I also have to place a tag above requesting that this article needs to be cleaned-up a little. Sorry if I have to be harsh, but in order to beautify the article, this has to be so.  I hate to be extreme (and I also hate to place "Request Tags" and such and such) but after looking at the article, it has came to a point where this article needs to be beautified so that it would not look ugly. — Mark Kim 22:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Why the Tokyo Sexwale references?
'' (In September, Tokyo Sexwale hired both finalists on the South African version, eliciting anger from viewers.) , ''

I just want to know why this is on this article. I feel that this seems to be out of place for a Donald Trump article. I think this is off-topic IMO and should be deleted from this season. If you guys don't want any Martha Stewart references here in this page, why do you consider putting the Tokyo Sexwale references here? I don't get it!!! — Mark Kim 01:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * After thinking it over and over, I had to purge the Tokyo Sexwale comment on Week 13: Decision Time, as it is considered to be OFF-TOPIC on this page. It also has came to my attention that this page needs to be cleaned-up because I'm seeing a BIG MESS at the beginning of this article, so I'm gonna have to mark the article for MAJOR CLEAN-UP. — Mark Kim 22:08, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

IMPORTANT: About Tokyo Sexwale, other moguls, and off-topic edits
Any of these references are considered OFF-TOPIC. I try to be as lenient as I can, but if it goes too much (like mentioning the Tokyo Sexwale decision to do a multiple-hiring), then it's likely to be purged and/or reverted. I have seen adds, modifications, removes, and reverts before on this page, but from this point on, anything in this article has to be WITHIN DONALD TRUMP limits. No if's, and's, or but's. From this point on, Off-Topic edits will be dealt with due course, and any Martha Stewart and/or Tokyo Sexwale references are considered OFF-TOPIC and will be reverted. Your cooperation is appreciated. — Mark Kim 22:13, 5 April 2006 (UTC) P.S. I'm mentioning this because I don't want this article to become a haven for any off-topic edits under any circumstances. During its run, there has been Martha Stewart references, and those edits were on dangerous grounds. Unless edits stay on-topic, like I said it will be reverted at due course. Not to be harsh, but I'd rather have a topic remain on topic rather than having it as a haven for free talk.

 * If this were an article only about Donald Trump, I would agree with your points. But, this is an article about the Apprentice 4 and one of the huge stories coming out of the finale was the potential of Trump hiring two candidates. I don't think it detracts from the article at all to have a mention of another Apprentice season at the same time that had a multiple hiring. Sue Anne 21:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Personally, I want to keep things as uniform as possible, and not to be harsh, I'd personally rather put the Tokyo Sexwale decision at the general Apprentice page rather than this one. Since this article talks about a season in particular, I'd personally think it's really important to keep things uniform as possible.  Tokyo Sexwale's decisions fall more on the general Apprentice page than on this one, but given the fact that people were complaining about Martha references on this article, I have thus decided that I should keep the article uniform to Donald Trump ever since. — Mark Kim (Reply/Start Talk) 04:03, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Apprenti ISN'T a grammatical error after all
In Week 9 of the Season 5 of the Apprentice, even Donald Trump used the word "Apprenti" to introduce the remaining candidates Ivanka and Donald Jr. Therefore, a multiple-hiring would've probably changed the show's name to "Apprenti", something that Randal felt overly opposed to. — Mark Kim (Reply/Start Talk) 03:19, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Candidate and Final Decision Split
After thinking it over and over, honestly for Season 4 of The Apprentice, I think the candidate section should be split up so that more of the candidates and how well or poor they performed can be placed on one article rather than on an entire season-related article.

Also, I have requested the Final Decision for this season to have its own separate article as well because after thinking it over and over, I think this has been something that was more of a controversy. According to a Straw Poll result (to calm down the Edit Wars), some people were in favor of labeling Rebecca as "Not Hired on Television" while some prefer to label Rebecca as "Fired on the Season Finale". I'm just gonna assume clean faith with the "Not Hired on Television" label for Rebecca, the only things why I'm still thinking it over and over (and the main reason why I'm considering a separate article for this season's final decision) is mainly because of the following: Rebecca had a fierce loyalty with Toral, even though Toral should've been the one brought back to the boardroom on Week 3, Rebecca felt that both Jennifers were responsible for the loss, and she believed in Toral's abilities. I think being fiercely loyal to someone has to be a fatal flaw, but some may disagree with me because in other words, people tend to believe in others and/or people happen to be advocates of others. Rebecca painstakingly had to let Toral be fired in Week 4 because Rebecca felt that Toral should've stepped up as Project Manager (but let Felisha do the dirty work instead). Rebecca's PM record of 1-2 also concerns me and Rebecca would only be able to succeed if she has strong and easy-to-work contributors, while Randal was capable of managing and working with all walks of life.

Therefore, for Apprentice 4 Candidates Separate Article, Yea, for Apprentice 4 Final Decision, Yea. That's that. — The Evil in Everyone (U * T/R * CTD) 02:08, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Fired Candidates' Notes
This entire section was pretty much verbatim copyvio from the NBC website bios, so I've nuked it. FiggyBee 01:17, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Results table
I think The_Apprentice_(UK_Series_One) table should be replicated here. It will easily help someone keep track of the movement between teams, project manager etc. Linnah 02:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

The Apprentice World-wide WikiProject
Please contribute to the relevant discussion here, as this discussion relates to this article. Thanks, Dalejenkins | 15:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

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Switzerland at the 2000 Summer Olympics

Switzerland competed at the 2000 Summer Olympics in Sydney, Australia. 102 competitors, 64 men and 38 women, took part in 82 events in 19 sports.

Men's competition
Men's 800m
 * André Bucher
 * Round 1 – 01:46.51
 * Semifinal – 01:44.38
 * Final – 01:45.40 (5th place)

Men's 110m Hurdles
 * Paolo Della Santa
 * Round 1 – 14.12 (did not advance)

 * Raphael Monachon
 * Round 1 – 14.8 (did not advance)

Men's 4 × 400 m
 * Nicolas Baeriswyl, André Bucher, Laurent Clerc, Alain Rohr
 * Round 1 – 03:06.01 (did not advance)

Men's 3,000m Steeplechase
 * Christian Belz
 * Round 1 – 08:33.45 (did not advance)

Men's Marathon
 * Viktor Roethlin
 * Final – 2:20:06 (36th place)

Men's Decathlon
 * Philipp Huber
 * 100m – 11.35
 * Long Jump – DNS
 * Shot Put – DNS

Women's competition
Women's 100m
 * Mireille Donders
 * Round 1 – 11.63 (did not advance)

Women's 200m
 * Mireille Donders
 * Round 1 – 23.44 (did not advance)

Women's 1,500m
 * Anita Wyermann
 * Round 1 – 04:09.28
 * Semifinal – 04:30.80 (did not advance)

 * Sabine Fischer
 * Round 1 – 04:10.78
 * Semifinal – 04:06.67
 * Final – 04:08.84 (9th place)

Women's Marathon
 * Daria Nauer
 * Final – 2:43:00 (38th place)

Beach volleyball

 * Martin Laciga and Paul Laciga – 5th place (tied)

Men's competition
Men's Kayak Singles 500m
 * Adrian Hermann Bachmann
 * Qualifying Heat – 01:45.187 (did not advance)

Men's Kayak Singles 1000m
 * Adrian Hermann Bachmann
 * Qualifying Heat – 03:45.705
 * Semifinal – 03:47.479 (did not advance)

Men's competition
Men's Kayak Singles
 * Mathias Roethenmund
 * Qualifying – 253.02
 * Final – 227.96 (9th place)

Women's competition
Women's Kayak Singles
 * Sandra Friedli
 * Qualifying – 306.01
 * Final – 262.30 (9th place)

Cross Country Mountain Bike
Men's Cross Country Mountain Bike
 * Christoph Sauser
 * Final – 2:11:21.00 (Bronze medal)

 * Thomas Frischknecht
 * Final – 2:12:42.49 (6th place)

 * Thomas Hochstrasser
 * Final – DNF

Women's Mountain Bike
 * Barbara Blatter
 * Final – 1:49:51.42 (Silver medal)

 * Chantal Daucourt
 * Final – 1:56:49.53 (11th place)

Men's competition
Men's Individual Time Trial
 * Alex Zülle
 * Final – 1:02:34 (33rd place)

Men's Road Race
 * Markus Zberg
 * Final – 5:30:46 (21st place)

 * Oscar Camenzind
 * Final – 5:30:46 (37th place)

 * Mauro Gianetti
 * Final – 5:30:46 (54th place)

 * Laurent Dufaux
 * Final – 5:30:46 (64th place)

 * Alex Zülle
 * Final – 5:30:46 (68th place)

Women's competition
Women's Individual Time Trial
 * Nicole Brändli
 * Final – 0:45:51 (23rd place)

Women's Road Race
 * Yvonne Schnorf
 * Final – 3:06:31 (9th place)

 * Nicole Brändli
 * Final – 3:06:31 (16th place)

 * Priska Doppmann
 * Final – 3:10:17 (32nd place)

Men's competition
Men's Individual Pursuit
 * Franco Marvulli
 * Qualifying – 04:34.000 (did not advance)

Men's Point Race
 * Bruno Risi
 * Points – 13
 * Laps Down – 2 (12th place)

Men's Madison
 * Bruno Risi, Kurt Betschart
 * Final – 5 (11th place)

Diving
Men's 3 Metre Springboard
 * Jean-Romain Delaloye
 * Preliminary – 292.68 (45th place, did not advance)

Women's 3 Metre Springboard
 * Catherine Maliev-Aviolat
 * Preliminary – 204.06 (38th place, did not advance)

Women's Synchronized 3 Metre Springboard
 * Catherine Maliev-Aviolat, Jacquiline Schneider
 * Final – 256.2 (8th place)

Fencing
Five fencers, two men and three women, represented Switzerland in 2000.

 * Men's épée
 * Marcel Fischer

 * Men's sabre
 * Laurent Waller

 * Women's épée
 * Gianna Hablützel-Bürki
 * Diana Romagnoli
 * Sophie Lamon

 * Women's team épée
 * Gianna Hablützel-Bürki, Sophie Lamon, Diana Romagnoli

Sailing
Switzerland had four top 20 finishes during the Sailing competition at the 2000 Sydney Olympics.

Men's Single Handed Dinghy (Finn)
 * Peter Theurer
 * Race 1 – 16
 * Race 2 – 13
 * Race 3 – (21)
 * Race 4 – 4
 * Race 5 – 18
 * Race 6 – 19
 * Race 7 – 8
 * Race 8 – 20
 * Race 9 – (26) DNC
 * Race 10 – 4
 * Race 11 – 18
 * Final – 120 (18th place)

Men's Double Handed Dinghy (470)
 * Lukas Erni and Simon Bruegger
 * Race 1 – (30) OCS
 * Race 2 – (28)
 * Race 3 – 27
 * Race 4 – 24
 * Race 5 – 20
 * Race 6 – 7
 * Race 7 – 20
 * Race 8 – 26
 * Race 9 – 27
 * Race 10 – 8
 * Race 11 – 25
 * Final – 184 (27th place)

Women's Mistral
 * Anja Käser
 * Race 1 – 14
 * Race 2 – (16)
 * Race 3 – 7
 * Race 4 – 7
 * Race 5 – 10
 * Race 6 – 12
 * Race 7 – 13
 * Race 8 – 10
 * Race 9 – 13
 * Race 10 – (18)
 * Race 11 – 4
 * Final – 90 (12th place)

Open Two Handed Keelboat (Star)
 * Flavio Marazzi and Renato Marazzi
 * Race 2 – 14
 * Race 3 – 4
 * Race 4 – (17) DSQ
 * Race 5 – (17) DSQ
 * Race 6 – (17) DNF
 * Race 7 – 16
 * Race 8 – 12
 * Race 9 – 6
 * Race 10 – 10
 * Race 11 – 5
 * Final – 97 (15th place)

Open High Performance Two Handed Dinghy (49er)
 * Thomas Rueegge and Claude Maurer
 * Race 1 – 15
 * Race 2 – 6
 * Race 3 – 14
 * Race 4 – 4
 * Race 5 – 10
 * Race 6 – (17)
 * Race 7 – 8
 * Race 8 – 9
 * Race 9 – (17)
 * Race 10 – 14
 * Race 11 – 11
 * Race 12 – 15
 * Race 13 – 9
 * Race 14 – 13
 * Race 15 – 12
 * Race 16 – 11
 * Final – 151 (15th place)

Swimming
Men's 50m Freestyle
 * Christophe Bühler
 * Preliminary Heat – 23.15 (→ did not advance)

Men's 100m Freestyle
 * Karel Novy
 * Preliminary Heat – 50.19 (→ did not advance)

Men's 100m Butterfly
 * Philippe Meyer
 * Preliminary Heat – 54.85 (→ did not advance)

Men's 100m Breaststroke
 * Remo Lütolf
 * Preliminary Heat – 01:02.54
 * Final – 01:01.88 (→ 8th place)

Men's 100m Backstroke
 * Philipp Gilgen
 * Preliminary Heat – 57.5 (→ did not advance)

Men's 200m Individual Medley
 * Yves Platel
 * Preliminary Heat – 02:05.19 (→ did not advance)

Men's 400m Individual Medley
 * Yves Platel
 * Preliminary Heat – 04:22.38 (→ did not advance)

Men's 4 × 100 m Medley Relay
 * Phillipp Gilgen, Remo Lütolf, Phillippe Meyer, and Karel Novy
 * Preliminary Heat – 03:42.78 (→ did not advance)

Women's 400m Freestyle
 * Flavia Rigamonti
 * Preliminary Heat – 04:11.77 (→ did not advance)

 * Chantal Strasser
 * Preliminary Heat – 04:16.17 (→ did not advance)

Women's 800m Freestyle
 * Flavia Rigamonti
 * Preliminary Heat – 08:30.44
 * Final – 08:25.91 (→ 4th place)

 * Chantal Strasser
 * Preliminary Heat – 08:35.84 (→ did not advance)

Women's 100m Breaststroke
 * Agata Czaplicki
 * Preliminary Heat – 01:13.19 (→ did not advance)

Women's 200m Breaststroke
 * Agata Czaplicki
 * Preliminary Heat – 02:32.98 (→ did not advance)

Synchronized swimming
Duet
 * Madeleine Perk, Belinda Schmid
 * Technical Routine – 32.153
 * Free Routine – 59.886
 * Final – 92.039 (10th place)

Tennis
Men's Singles competition:
 * Roger Federer

Triathlon
At the inaugural Olympic triathlon competition, Switzerland was represented by three men and three women. The women captured both the gold medal and the bronze medal, while the men added one more top eight finish.

Men's Competition:
 * Reto Hug – 1:49:21.30 (→ 8th place)
 * Markus Keller – 1:50:15.25 (→ 18th place)
 * Jean-Christophe Guinchard – 1:50:50.76 (→ 24th place)

Women's Competition:
 * Brigitte McMahon – 2:00:40.52 (→ [[Image:Med_1.png]] Gold Medal)
 * Magali Messmer – 2:01:08.83 (→ [[Image:Med_3.png]] Bronze Medal)
 * Sibylle Matter – 2:13:25.38 (→ 36th place)

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Brad Dye

Bradford Johnson Dye Jr. (December 20, 1933 – July 1, 2018) was an American politician and lawyer who served as the 27th Lieutenant Governor of Mississippi from 1980 until 1992. Dye was the only individual in state history to have served as lieutenant governor for 12 consecutive years.

Early life
Bradford Johnson Dye Jr. was born on December 20, 1933, in Charleston, Mississippi to Braford Johnson Dye and Maylise Dorgan Dye. His father was a state legislator. He received a Bachelor of Business Administration in 1957 from the University of Mississippi and a law degree in 1959 from the University of Mississippi School of Law. He married Donna Bess Bailey and had three children with her.

Career
Dye was a conservative and a member of the Democratic Party. He began his political career in 1950 as a page in the U.S. House of Representatives for Jamie Whitten. He also worked as a driver for James Eastland during one of his U.S. Senate campaigns. He won election to the Mississippi House of Representatives in 1959, serving in that capacity from 1960 until 1964. He served in the Mississippi State Senate from 1964 to 1968. From 1961 to 1964 he worked as an attorney for the United States Senate Judiciary Committee, resigning to become a commissioner to the Workman's Compensation Commission. He directed the Mississippi Agricultural and Industrial Board from 1968 to 1971. He was a segregationist in the 1960s and in 1967 served as gubernatorial candidate John Bell Williams' campaign manager.

Dye served as Mississippi State Treasurer from 1972 to 1976. In 1975 he ran for the office of Lieutenant Governor of Mississippi. He entered a runoff in the Democratic primary with Evelyn Gandy and lost. He was president of Jackson Savings and Loan Association from 1976 to 1979.

Lieutenant governor
Dye was elected lieutenant governor in 1979. By then, he decided to "make his peace with integration, hiring African Americans onto his staff as lieutenant governor." He was sworn in on January 16, 1980. In office he had the power to appoint members to Senate committees. Unlike his predecessors, he was keen to place senators of certain political persuasions on committees in such a fashion as to advance his own legislative agenda. He also convinced the Senate to let him chair the body's Rules Committee.

In December 1982 Governor William F. Winter called the legislature into special session to consider the adoption of an expansive education reform program. Dye was not initially a strong supporter of the bill, but decided that the Senate should approve the measure—including the creation of public kindergartens—after the House approved it. He feared that Senate Finance Committee Chairman Ellis B. Bodron would block the bill's passage. The night the reform legislation passed the House, Dye called Bodron and told him, "Ellis, what you do with your politics is fine, but in running your mouth, you've hurt my politics. I want you to add some Senate things to the House bill." When Bodron asked for clarification, Dye told him "I want a commitment out of you right now—that this bill is going to come out of Finance Committee and you'll support it. If you're not, this is going to be the first time the Education Committee has ever raised taxes in this state." Bodron acquiesced to Dye's request, and the reform bill was ultimately passed into law. Dye remained generally supportive of education reform but was accused by journalists of blocking other reform legislation.

In 1983, Dye won his second term as lieutenant governor by defeating Republican Gil Carmichael, an auto dealer from Meridian who ran as an independent. In 1987, Dye won re-election to a third consecutive four-year term in office. In 1986 a commission studying the state's constitution affirmed Dye's perspective on the powers of the lieutenant governor's office.

In 1991 Dye was challenged in the Democratic primary by state senator Ken Harper, accused him of creating "gridlock" over reform legislation affecting ballot initiatives, referendums, and limits on lobbying. Dye shortly thereafter declared his support for these reforms in a speech at the Neshoba County Fair, but this action was viewed as opportunistic by many voters. In televisions attack ads, Harper criticized Dye for using $850 of public funds to acquire a new office chair while supporting a tax hike. Dye countered by accusing Harper of improperly using his office for private gain by performing legal services for three state bodies. While his opponent garnered the support of labor unions and the state teacher association, Dye was narrowly re-nominated, earning 51.5 percent of the vote in the Democratic primary.

In the general election Dye faced Republican state senator Eddie Briggs, a former Democrat who faced no primary challenge, and black independent Henry J. Kirksey. Briggs characterized Dye as beholden to "the tired, old, worn politic of the past" and denounced him for failing to pass reform legislation. He also attacked him for refusing to release his tax returns, participate in a public debate, and for collecting the governor's salary while serving as acting governor whenever the incumbent was out of the state. Briggs ultimately won with 49.5 percent of the vote. Dye collected 41.5 percent, and Kirksey earned the remainder. The Mississippi constitution stipulated that a statewide race not won by outright majority was to be decided by a vote of the House. Dye encouraged the House to affirm Briggs' victory on the basis that he earned a plurality of the votes. Briggs replaced him on January 9, 1992.

Dye was the longest-serving lieutenant governor in Mississippian history. Unlike many of his predecessors and most of his successors, he did not view the office as a platform from which to run for gubernatorial office. Changes were later instituted which placed a two-term limit on the lieutenant governor's office.

Later life and death
In the 2007 Mississippi gubernatorial election, Dye endorsed Republican candidate Haley Barbour, who was ultimately victorious. In September 2010 he was presented with the Mississippi Medal of Service by Governor Barbour.

Dye died of respiratory failure on July 1, 2018, at a hospice in Ridgeland, Mississippi.

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Vfd
On April 9, 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. See Votes for deletion/Highstead Arboretum for a record of the discussion. —Korath (Talk) 03:37, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved to Highstead Arboretum, to revert the recent bold move. There was no support for the nominator's proposal, and a consensus that this is not the primary topic for "Highstead". Two editors explicitly supported reverting the name to "Highstead Arboretum", which was the page's title until a bold move on 20 March 2104. I don't see a consensus here that "Highstead Arboretum" is the best title, but since there is no consensus for any alternative I will revert back to the most recent stable title, which is "Highstead Arboretum". -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:37, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Highstead Foundation → Highstead – The organization is named Highstead, not Highstead Arboretum or Highstead Foundation. The correct naming can be seen on the organization's website at http://www.highstead.net/ A simple move is not possible because another unrelated page exists under the name Highstead. JesSiart (talk) 18:33, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose the English village of Highstead with its iron-age pottery is the primary topic for "Highstead (period)" in Google Books. The Highstead Arboretum gets more mentions than the Foundation. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:12, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment in fact a revert back to Highstead Arboretum 17:35, 20 March 2014 JesSiart (talk | contribs) m . . (1,523 bytes) (0) . . (JesSiart moved page Highstead Arboretum to Highstead Foundation) might be better. Can I ask what is the objection to Arborertum (?), since that is what it is. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:24, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

 * Strong oppose per IIO, no proof given the foundation is the primary topic either. Further, the target is a different article, and if you want to delete it, you need to go to WP:AfD -- 70.24.250.235 (talk) 06:51, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can't just delete the article on the village. It could be moved to Highstead, Kent if necessary. --BDD (talk) 17:42, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
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Australia at the 2000 Summer Olympics

Australia was the host nation for the 2000 Summer Olympics in Sydney. Australian athletes have competed in every Summer Olympic Games. 617 competitors, 341 men and 276 women, took part in 270 events in 34 sports.

Archery
Australia won its first Olympic gold medal, and moreover the first Olympic medal of any color, in the sport of archery in Sydney. Simon Fairweather defeated all six archers he faced, including a comfortable seven-point victory in the final.

Men

Women

Athletics

 * Key
 * Note–Ranks given for track events are within the athlete's heat only
 * Q = Qualified for the next round
 * q = Qualified for the next round as a fastest loser or, in field events, by position without achieving the qualifying target
 * NR = National record
 * N/A = Round not applicable for the event
 * Bye = Athlete not required to compete in round

 * Men
 * Track and road events

 * Field events

 * Combined events – Decathlon

 * Women
 * Track and road events

 * Field events

 * Combined events – Heptathlon

Badminton

 * Men

 * Women

 * Mixed

Men's tournament
The Australians' second appearance in the Olympic baseball tournament resulted in the team moving up one place in the rankings, from seventh to sixth. They defeated Korea and South Africa but lost to the five other teams in competition to finish outside the top four and find themselves eliminated after the preliminaries.
 * Team roster

 * Craig Anderson
 * Grant Balfour
 * Tom Becker
 * Shayne Bennett
 * Mathew Buckley
 * Adam Burton
 * Clayton Byrne
 * Mark Ettles
 * Paul Gonzalez
 * Mark Hutton
 * Ronny Johnson
 * Grant McDonald
 * Adrian Meagher
 * Michael Moyle
 * Michael Nakamura
 * David Nilsson
 * Glenn Reeves
 * Brett Roneberg
 * Chris Snelling
 * Brad Thomas
 * Rodney van Buizen
 * David White
 * Gary White
 * Glenn Williams
 * Head coach: Jon Deeble

Basketball

 * Men's team roster
 * Andrew Gaze (captain)
 * Chris Anstey
 * Mark Bradtke
 * Martin Cattalini
 * Ricky Grace
 * Shane Heal
 * Luc Longley
 * Sam Mackinnon
 * Brett Maher
 * Paul Rogers
 * Jason Smith
 * Andrew Vlahov
 * Head coach: Barry Barnes

 * Women's team roster
 * Sandy Brondello
 * Michelle Brogan
 * Carla Boyd
 * Jo Hill
 * Kristi Harrower
 * Shelly Sandie
 * Annie la Fleur
 * Trisha Fallon
 * Lauren Jackson
 * Rachael Sporn
 * Michele Timms
 * Jenny Whittle
 * Head coach: Tom Maher

 * Teams' results

Beach volleyball

 * Men

Sprint

 * Men

 * Women

Road cycling

 * Men

 * Women

Track cycling

 * Pursuit

 * Sprint

 * Time trial

 * Points race

 * Keirin

Diving
Australia entered divers in all of the events, and won two bronze medals.

 * Men

 * Women

Fencing
Seven fencers, five men and two women, represented Australia in 2000.
 * Men

 * Women

Men's tournament
Coach: Raul Blanco

 * *Over-aged player
 * Group stage

Women's tournament

 * Team roster

 * Dianne Alagich
 * Sharon Black
 * Bryony Duus
 * Alicia Ferguson
 * Alison Forman (captain)
 * Heather Garriock
 * Kelly Golebiowski
 * Peita-Claire Hepperlin
 * Sunni Hughes
 * Kate McShea
 * Julie Murray
 * Cheryl Salisbury
 * Bridgette Starr
 * Anissa Tann
 * Leanne Trimboli
 * Sacha Wainwright
 * Tracey Wheeler
 * Amy Wilson
 * Head coach: Chris Tanzey

 * Group stage

Women's artistic

 * Team

 * Individual events

Handball

 * Men's team roster
 * Peter Bach
 * Christian Bajan
 * Vernon Cheung
 * Russell Garnett
 * David Gonzalez
 * Kristian Groenintwoud
 * Darryl McCormack
 * Rajan Pavlovic
 * Taip Ramadani
 * Brendon Taylor
 * Lee Schofield
 * Dragan Sestic
 * Sasa Sestic
 * Milan Slavujevic
 * Karim Shehab
 * Head coach: Zoltán Marczinka

 * Women's team roster
 * Janni Bach
 * Petra Besta
 * Rina Bjarnason
 * Raelene Boulton
 * Kim Briggs
 * Mari Edland
 * Sarah Hammond
 * Fiona Hannan
 * Vera Ignjatovic
 * Jana Jamnicky
 * Lydia Kahmke
 * Marina Kopcalic
 * Jovana Milosevic
 * Shelley Ormes
 * Katrina Shinfield
 * Head coach: Christoph Mecker

 * Teams' results

Field hockey

 * Men's team roster
 * Michael Brennan
 * Adam Commens
 * Stephen Davies
 * Damon Diletti (gk)
 * Lachlan Dreher (gk)
 * Jason Duff
 * Troy Elder
 * James Elmer
 * Paul Gaudoin
 * Stephen Holt
 * Brent Livermore
 * Daniel Sproule
 * Jay Stacy
 * Craig Victory
 * Matthew Wells
 * Michael York
 * Head Coach: Terry Walsh

 * Women's team roster
 * Kate Allen
 * Alyson Annan
 * Renita Farrell
 * Juliet Haslam
 * Rechelle Hawkes
 * Nikki Hudson
 * Rachel Imison (gk)
 * Clover Maitland (gk)
 * Claire Mitchell-Taverner
 * Jenn Morris
 * Alison Peek
 * Katrina Powell
 * Lisa Powell
 * Angie Skirving
 * Kate Starre
 * Julie Towers
 * Head Coach: Ric Charlesworth

 * Results

Judo

 * Men

 * Women

Modern pentathlon
Coaches: Anthony Klarica, John Olsen, John Gilman, Scott Arnold, Russel Johnston

Rowing

 * Men

 * Women

Sailing
Australia competed in all of the sailing events at the 2000 Olympics. They won 2 golds, 1 silver and 1 bronze.

 * Men

Men's Double Handed Dinghy (470)
 * Tom King and Mark Turnbull
 * Race 1 — 5
 * Race 2 — 1
 * Race 3 — 2
 * Race 4 — (14)
 * Race 5 — 7
 * Race 6 — 10
 * Race 7 — 8
 * Race 8 — 1
 * Race 9 — 2
 * Race 10 — (11)
 * Race 11 — 2
 * Final — 38 (gold medal)

Men's Laser
 * Michael Blackburn
 * Race 1 — 8
 * Race 2 — 9
 * Race 3 — 2
 * Race 4 — (18)
 * Race 5 — 6
 * Race 6 — 5
 * Race 7 — (22)
 * Race 8 — 2
 * Race 9 — 12
 * Race 10 — 3
 * Race 11 — 14
 * Final — 60 (bronze medal)

Men's Tornado
 * Darren Bundock and John Forbes
 * Race 1 — 1
 * Race 2 — 3
 * Race 3 — 4
 * Race 4 — 4
 * Race 5 — 4
 * Race 6 — (7)
 * Race 7 — 2
 * Race 8 — 4
 * Race 9 — (5)
 * Race 10 — 2
 * Race 11 — 1
 * Final — 25 (silver medal)

Men's Two Handed Keelboat (Star)
 * Colin Beashel and David Giles
 * Race 1 — 8
 * Race 2 — 8
 * Race 3 — 6
 * Race 4 — 1
 * Race 5 — 3
 * Race 6 — 2
 * Race 7 — 8
 * Race 8 — 9
 * Race 9 — (17) DSQ
 * Race 10 — (12)
 * Race 11 — 6
 * Final — 51 (7th place)

Men's Three Handed Keelboat (Soling)
 * Neville Wittey, Josh Grace and David Edwards
 * Round robin Group 2 1-4 (5th place — did not advance)

Women's Mistral
 * Jessica Crisp
 * Race 1 — 13
 * Race 2 — (15)
 * Race 3 — 4
 * Race 4 — 4
 * Race 5 — 9
 * Race 6 — 8
 * Race 7 — 4
 * Race 8 — (16)
 * Race 9 — 3
 * Race 10 — 4
 * Race 11 — 10
 * Final — 59 (5th place)

Women's Single Handed Dinghy (Europe)
 * Melanie Dennison
 * Race 1 — 18
 * Race 2 — 17
 * Race 3 — 7
 * Race 4 — (28) OCS
 * Race 5 — (19)
 * Race 6 — 10
 * Race 7 — 19
 * Race 8 — 8
 * Race 9 — 3
 * Race 10 — 4
 * Race 11 — 16
 * Final — 102 (15th place)

Women's Double Handed Dinghy (470)
 * Jenny Armstrong and Belinda Stowell
 * Race 1 — 1
 * Race 2 — (11)
 * Race 3 — (18)
 * Race 4 — 5
 * Race 5 — 8
 * Race 6 — 7
 * Race 7 — 1
 * Race 8 — 6
 * Race 9 — 3
 * Race 10 — 1
 * Race 11 — 1
 * Final — 33 (gold medal)

Mixed High Performance Two Handed Dinghy (49er)
 * Chris Nicholson and Daniel Phillips
 * Race 1 — 11
 * Race 2 — 11
 * Race 3 — 1
 * Race 4 — (14)
 * Race 5 — 1
 * Race 6 — 1
 * Race 7 — 12
 * Race 8 — 3
 * Race 9 — 1
 * Race 10 — 6
 * Race 11 — (17)
 * Race 12 — 10
 * Race 13 — 8
 * Race 14 — 5
 * Race 15 — 9
 * Race 16 — 7
 * Final — 86 (6th place)

Women's tournament

 * Preliminary round
 * Defeated New Zealand (3-2)
 * Defeated Italy (7-0)
 * Defeated Canada (1-0)
 * Medal round
 * Lost to Japan (0-1)
 * Defeated United States (2-1)
 * Defeated PR China (1-0)
 * Defeated Cuba (8-1) → [[Image:Med 3.png]] Bronze medal
 * Team Roster
 * Sandra Allen
 * Joanne Brown
 * Kerry Dienelt
 * Peta Edebone
 * Sue Fairhurst
 * Selina Follas
 * Fiona Hanes
 * Kelly Hardie
 * Tanya Harding
 * Sally McCreedy
 * Simmone Morrow
 * Melanie Roche
 * Natalie Titcume
 * Natalie Ward
 * Brooke Wilkins
 * Head coach: Bob Crudgington

Swimming
Australia was very successful in the swimming venue at the 2000 Olympics. They won 5 Gold, 9 Silver, and 4 Bronze medals. The biggest rivalry, both in the press and in the pool, was between the United States and Australia relay teams. In the 4 × 100 m relay, the Americans had won the event every time it had been contested. Australia was able to edge out the Americans by .19 seconds to win the gold medal. The Australians also set three world records. The 2000 Olympics also saw the emergence of Ian Thorpe as an Olympic champion in the Men's 400 m Freestyle.

 * Men

 * Women

Table tennis

 * Men

 * Women

Tennis

 * Men

 * Women

Volleyball

 * Men's team roster
 * David Beard
 * Ben Hardy
 * Dan Howard
 * Nathan Jakavicius
 * Steve Keir
 * Ben Loft
 * Spiros Marazios
 * Scott Newcomb
 * Dan Ronan
 * Hidde Van Beest
 * Russell Wentworth
 * Mark Williams
 * Head coach: Stelio de Rocco

 * Women's team roster
 * Tamsin Barnett
 * Louise Bawden
 * Sandi Bowen
 * Liz Brett
 * Majella Brown
 * Angela Clarke
 * Bea Daly
 * Renae Maycock
 * Christie Mokotupu
 * Priscilla Ruddle
 * Selina Scoble
 * Rachel White
 * Head coach: Brad Saindon

 * Results

Water polo

 * Men's team roster
 * Sean Boyd
 * Eddie Denis
 * Andriy Kovalenko
 * Daniel Marsden
 * Craig Miller
 * Tim Neesham
 * Mark Oberman
 * Rod Owen-Jones
 * Rafael Sterk
 * Nathan Thomas
 * Grant Waterman
 * Thomas Whalan
 * Gavin Woods
 * Head coach: Don Cameron

 * Women's team roster
 * Naomi Castle
 * Joanne Fox
 * Bridgette Gusterson
 * Simone Hankin
 * Yvette Higgins
 * Kate Hooper
 * Bronwyn Mayer
 * Gail Miller
 * Melissa Mills
 * Debbie Watson
 * Liz Weekes
 * Danielle Woodhouse
 * Taryn Woods
 * Head coach: István Görgényi

 * Results

Weightlifting
Men Women

Wrestling

 * Men's freestyle

 * Men's Greco-Roman

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Talk:Patty (Peanuts)

1990s
Schulz claimed he used her once more in a 1994 strip, but if it is the same Patty, she is essentially unrecognizable; her hair especially looks radically different.
 * I recently saw the strip in question. In it, Patty is trying to get Snoopy to chase rabbits. She looks like Patty to me. The only real differences I noticed were that she was wearing pants and had no bow in her hair. By the mid-1990s, it would have been a rare little girl who would wear a dress and bow to go chase rabbits. If no one objects, I will change this reference to reflect this.Rockhopper10r 03:39, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Doesn't Patty also appear in the Thanksgiving 1997 strip (where Snoopy is "ringing the drumstick") along with Violet? Sure looks like her to me. - Aerobird 17:53, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

 * She does. She appears many times in the later years, as does Violet, but they are never addressed by name. The 1994 appearance is notable because Schulz stated it was Patty in an interview.Rockhopper10r 19:40, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Both Patty and Violet (and even Frieda) appear often after the early '70s, but rarely as named characters. They usually showed up when Schulz needed several girls (to the point that that's the only way they are referred to, as "the girls"), and of course on the baseball team. The '90s rabbits sequence was probably a reference to an old running joke where Frieda was always trying to get Snoopy to chase rabbits. CFLeon 04:14, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

 * She was also in a comic strip shortly before that (as a brunette), where Charlie Brown gave a holiday card to her. Snoopy claimed to have drawn the bunnies.

 * The fact that Patty attended school when Charlie Brown did not does not necessarily make Patty the oldest child of the Peanuts team: Shermy did so, too. But that does not really matter: Schroeder and Lucy also end up in the same class as Charlie Brown, although they enter being many years younger than him. The same happens with Sally who, in her early years in Peanuts, is said to be five years younger than Linus but ends up in the same class. (Linus and Sally do not reach the same class as the others, probably only because it would seem too odd that they were in the same class as their older siblings Charlie and Lucy.) -- Voice from Finland, 22 April 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.214.197.173 (talk) 14:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

"Although Patty — or at least unnamed girls who bear a strong resemblance to her — would make cameo appearances throughout the run of Peanuts, she pretty much disappeared as a featured character by the mid-1970s, making her last official appearance on April 11, 1976. Schulz claimed he drew Patty in a 1994 strip in which she wants Snoopy to chase rabbits with her (a role previously usually taken by Frieda), although some fans have stated that the girl in the strip in question does not resemble Patty. Some have postulated that Patty's doom was sealed by the appearance of the similarly-named Peppermint Patty in 1966, but others say her character was already in decline by then. Her most recent appearance to this date was in 1995."

I don't understand the last sentence in this paragraph. Should it be deleted or changed? -- Gerkinstock (talk) 09:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

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Oscar Alende

Oscar Eduardo Alende (6 July 1909 – 22 December 1996) was an Argentine politician who founded the Intransigent Party.

Alende was born in Maipú, Buenos Aires Province. He studied medicine at the University of La Plata, where he led the student union, and completed his medical studies at the University of Buenos Aires in 1933. He became head of gastro-intestinal surgery at Rawson Hospital, and a member of the Argentine Surgical Academy. He was co-founder of the Argentine Committee of Assistance to Republican Spain.

In 1948 Alende became a provincial legislator in Buenos Aires Province for the Radical Civic Union (UCR), heading the UCR block from 1950. In 1952 he became a deputy in the Argentine Chamber of Deputies, serving until its dissolution in 1955.

Alende had joined the breakaway Intransigent Radical Civic Union (UCRI). In 1958 he was elected Governor of Buenos Aires Province and served until 1962. Alende became the leader of the UCRI following the 1962 overthrow of President Arturo Frondizi (who broke with the party), and stood as UCRI candidate for president in the 1963 elections. In 1972 he founded the Intransigent Party, the military having banned the use of the name UCRI. He stood once again for president in 1973 on behalf of the Popular Revolutionary Alliance.

After the return of democracy in 1983, Alende became president of the Intransigent Party and stood again for president. He was re-elected to the Chamber of Deputies in 1985, and served in that capacity until his death in 1996.

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Under "recorded", it says from 1965-1995, which song(s) were recorded in 1995?  R o  gerthat  Talk  11:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC) "Real Love" was recorded in 1979, but then given to Paul McCartney by Yoko Ono. The remaining three Beatles at the time, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr, in 1995, after releasing "Free As A Bird" in 1994, recorded "Real Love"... in 1995. GuitarWeeps 15:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Track listing
Under Disc 1 Track 23 "I'm Only Sleeping", it says that this is "take 1". However, since the liner notes clearly state that 11 takes had been made two days earlier, and that this was the first take on 29 april, surely this should be marked as "take 12"? 95.44.103.44 (talk) 21:19, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

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The New Christy Minstrels

The New Christy Minstrels are an American large-ensemble folk music group founded by Randy Sparks in 1961. The group has recorded more than 20 albums and scored several hits, including "Green, Green", "Saturday Night", "Today", "Denver" and "This Land Is Your Land". The group's 1962 debut album, Presenting the New Christy Minstrels, won a Grammy Award and remained on the Billboard 200 albums chart for two years.

The group sold millions of records, was in demand at concerts and on television shows and helped launch the musical careers of several musicians, including Kenny Rogers, Gene Clark, Kim Carnes, Larry Ramos and Barry McGuire.

Founding
Randy Sparks had been a solo performer, mixing folk music with pop standards and playing club dates on the West Coast and in Manhattan. Twice the winner of a Navy talent competition, he landed high-profile television appearances and a recording contract with Verve Records. In 1960, at the suggestion of Verve founder Norman Granz, Sparks formed the Randy Sparks Three with his wife, Jackie Miller, and singer/arranger Nick Woods.

Folk music was popular, and choral groups such as the Norman Luboff Choir were incorporating folk classics in their repertoires. Sparks felt that the seemingly perfect sound of such groups lacked the rustic character of actual folk performance. Throughout 1961 and 1962, he created a 14-voice ensemble, the New Christy Minstrels, by combining his trio with the Oregon quartet the Fairmount Singers, the Inn Group (singers John Forsha, Karol Dugan and Jerry Yester), banjo player Billy Cudmore, folk-blues singer Terry Wadsworth, folk singer Dolan Ellis, and singer/guitarist Art Podell. Large commercial folk groups did not yet exist, and the New Christy Minstrels delivered a robust new sound. Sparks named his group after Christy's Minstrels, a blackface group formed by Philadelphia-born showman Edwin Pearce Christy in 1842 and known for introducing Stephen Foster's compositions. Sparks also saw his group as a means of attracting attention to his own original songs and adaptations of folk classics.

1962–1964
The group was meant to be a recording act exclusively, and several members joined with the assumption that their commitment would be for occasional studio work. In April 1962, the group, reduced to ten members after the departure of the Fairmount Singers, recorded their debut album, Presenting the New Christy Minstrels (also known as Exciting New Folk Chorus), for Columbia Records. In 1963, the album won a Grammy Award for Best Performance by a Chorus and remained on the Billboard 200 chart for two years, peaking at number 19. The album included Woody Guthrie's "This Land Is Your Land", which entered the pop-singles charts in December 1962.

Prior to the album's release, Columbia Records West Coast A&R head Irving Townsend demanded as a precondition for the album's release that Sparks convert the group into a performing ensemble that could make live appearances. Also at Townsend's request, Sparks hired business managers George Greif and Sid Garris to help his large, unproven group secure bookings. Some of band's members had no interest in committing full-time to what they saw as a high-risk project, and others had obligations elsewhere. Yester, Dugan, Forsha, Wadsworth and Cudmore all left the group after the recording sessions. Sparks had lost half of his roster when the group was booked as regulars on The Andy Williams Show, a weekly variety show set to debut in the fall of 1962. Among the new members quickly found were the folk duo Barry & Barry (folksingers Barry McGuire and Barry Kane), vocalist Peggy Connelly, singer/banjoist Larry Ramos and tenor Clarence Treat (upright bass and mandolin). The new lineup debuted their act at the Troubadour in Los Angeles in July–August 1962, which included a mix of folk Americana, vaudevillian humor and solos, duos and trios. They were a smash success and garnered rave reviews from both The Hollywood Reporter and Variety.

When The Andy Williams Show debuted in October, the New Christy Minstrels became one of its most popular features. Connelly was replaced by vocalist Gayle Caldwell. In early December, the group appeared at the Cocoanut Grove with comedian George Gobel and then at Carnegie Hall and the Hollywood Bowl with singer/comedian Allan Sherman. Sherman released the performance on the album My Son, the Celebrity in 1963.

The group's second album, The New Christy Minstrels in Person, was released in February 1963. In January 1963, the group recorded ''The New Christy Minstrels Tell Tall Tales! (Legends and Nonsense)'', which was released that May. The group's fame had grown considerably, and they received "a raft of enthusiastic reviews." In April 1963, following a successful appearance at the Latin Quarter in New York, the group recorded another studio album, Ramblin'. This album included the song "Green, Green", a McGuire/Sparks composition that became the group's first hit single, peaking at number three on the Adult Contemporary Charts. "Green, Green" sold more than one million copies in 1963 and was awarded gold status.

In May 1963, Sparks stopped touring to focus on developing material and opening a night club in Los Angeles called Ledbetter's, which he intended as a training ground for future group members. By the end of the year, he had formed the Back Porch Majority for this purpose. He passed the role of front man on the concert trail to McGuire. Shortly thereafter, Dolan Ellis left and was replaced by Gene Clark. Clark quit in 1964 and joined Jim McGuinn and David Crosby in the Jet Set, later to become the Byrds. Clark was replaced by Paul Potash, formerly of the folk duo Art and Paul. At the same time, the group's two female singers Jackie Miller and Gayle Caldwell left, They were replaced by Karen Gunderson, formerly of the Sherwood Singers, and soprano Ann White. All three began with the Back Porch Majority and were promoted to the New Christy Minstrels in February 1964. Miller and Caldwell later launched a successful career as the pop/folk duo Jackie and Gayle, which had a recording contract with Capitol Records and a spot as semi-regulars on ABC's Shindig! in the fall of 1964.

In 1963, Sparks was contracted to create a film score for Advance to the Rear, featuring Glenn Ford and Stella Stevens. The soundtrack, performed by the New Christy Minstrels, was released in May 1964 as Today and Other Songs from 'Advance to the Rear'. It was the first complete soundtrack to be recorded in the folk music style. The score is notable for the hit standard "Today", which reached No. 4 on the Adult Contemporary Charts and No. 17 on the Billboard Hot 100, The album reached the top ten of the Billboard 200 chart.

In the summer of 1964, the New Christy Minstrels, now nine musicians, were featured in the television series Ford Presents the New Christy Minstrels, a weekly variety show sponsored by the Ford Motor Company and broadcast as a summer replacement for Hazel. Each episode had an outdoor setting, with two filmed at the 1964 New York World's Fair and three in the Los Angeles area: Disneyland, Knott's Berry Farm, and Pacific Ocean Park. Ford Presents the New Christy Minstrels ran from August 6 to September 10, 1964, airing on NBC from 9:30 to 10:00 p.m. ET on Thursdays.

Also in the summer of 1964, Sparks sold his interest in the group to Greif and Garris for $2,500,000. He shifted his focus to Ledbetter's, reviving his solo career and launching the careers of other groups. Ledbetter's became a showcase for performers who later enjoyed great fame, including John Denver, Carpenters, the Hager Twins, Gary Mule Deer, and Steve Martin. The Back Porch Majority launched a successful career of their own.

1965–1969
In January 1965, the New Christy Minstrels, now under the leadership of Greif and Garris, embarked on their first European tour, appearing in London, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Amsterdam, and Italy, where they performed the two winning songs at the Sanremo Music Festival 1965. One of these songs, "Le Colline Sono in Fiore," which featured a romantic duet by Nick Woods and Karen Gunderson, became a No. 1 hit in Italy. Upon the group's return to the U.S., McGuire left to embark on a solo career. Greif and Garris were rooted in the Big Band era and had little interest in the fading folk music genre, so they transitioned the group to more of a variety act with novelty and pop tunes mixed with some comedy. They reached No. 81 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the spring of 1965 with a cover of the Sherman Brothers' "Chim Chim Cher-ee" from the Disney film Mary Poppins. In April 1965, they performed the song on the 37th Academy Awards telecast, where it won the Oscar for Best Original Song. The group would later reach No. 114 in 1969 with a version of another Sherman Brothers title song from a Disney film, "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang".

Turnover in the group's roster began to accelerate through 1965 and at an even faster rate in the years that followed. Potash had left at the same time as did McGuire, and they were replaced by pop/folk singers Bob Buchanan and Michael Whalen. In April 1965, Barry Kane quit and was replaced by Will Teague; in July, Clarence Treat was replaced by Skiles and Henderson, a comedy duo that broadened the group's stage act. In September, Woods was replaced by Rusty Evans. In January 1966, Larry Ramos left and joined the Association; he was replaced by folksinger/songwriter Mike Settle. In late February, Art Podell, Karen Gunderson and Michael Whalen left. Among their replacements were singer/songwriter Michael McGinnis and pop/folk singer Ede Mae Kellogg. In July 1966, Ann White left and was replaced by Kim Carnes. Other new members were folksinger Mark Holly, former Fairmount singer Dave Ellingson, tenor Terry Williams and Texas-born singer Kenny Rogers. In 1967, Williams and Settle left to form a folk/rock group for which they recruited Rogers and another group member, Thelma Camacho, debuting as the First Edition on the Ledbetter's stage. In 1969, the band became Kenny Rogers and the First Edition.

The turnover may have had an effect on the group's sound, which had become quite different from that of The Andy Williams Show period when the group worked with musical director George Wyle on choral arrangements for Williams and his guest stars.

1970–1995
The New Christy Minstrels continued to perform across the country under the management of Greif and Garris, and released several more albums. In 1970, they performed during Super Bowl IV at Tulane Stadium in New Orleans, where they were introduced as "young Americans who demonstrate—with guitars."

In 1972, Greif-Garris Management was faced with a revolt when group members demanded more creative control and equitable treatment. In response, Greif-Garris fired the entire group and started rebuilding from scratch, leading to incorrect media reports that the group had disbanded.

In the late 1980s and into the early 1990s, the group's concert activity declined steadily before stopping completely.

Present
Sparks, who had registered a trademark for the New Christy Minstrels name, again became the leader of the group, which continues to perform. The lineup, as of 2021, consists of Sparks, Becky Jo Benson, Greg O'Haver, Dave Deutschendorf, Dave Rainwater, Julie Theroux, Ed Stockton, and Tholow Chan.

In 2009, a Golden Palm Star on the Walk of Stars was dedicated to Sparks and the New Christy Minstrels.

References in popular culture
In the 2003 comedic mockumentary film A Mighty Wind about a folk-music reunion, the Main Street Singers and New Main Street Singers were based on the New Christy Minstrels.

Alumni
(Partial list)

 * 1961
 * Hal Ayotte, joined 1961 with The Fairmount Singers
 * Becky Jo Benson, joined 1961
 * Billy Cudmore, joined 1961.
 * Karol Dugan, joined 1961, from The Inn Group
 * Dave Ellingson, joined 1961 with the Fairmount Singers and again in 1966.
 * Dolan Ellis, joined 1961 and again in 2006.
 * John Forsha, joined 1961. From The Inn Group
 * Jackie Miller, joined 1961. Later a member of Jackie and Gayle with Gayle Caldwell.
 * Rob Mills, joined 1961 with The Fairmount Singers
 * Tracy Newman, joined 1961
 * Terry Tillman joined 1961 with The Fairmount Singers
 * Terry Wadsworth, joined 1961. Later became an actor under the name Terence Locke. (d. 1982)
 * Jerry Yester, joined 1961, from The Inn Group

 * 1962
 * Gayle Caldwell, joined 1962. Later half of 'Jackie and Gayle'. (d. 2009)
 * Peggy Connelly, joined 1962 (d. 2007)
 * Barry Kane, joined 1962 and again 1972. (d. 2013)
 * Barry McGuire, joined 1962
 * Art Podell, joined 1962, from Art & Paul
 * Larry Ramos, joined 1962 (d. 2014)
 * Clarence Treat, joined 1962

 * 1960s
 * Gene Clark, joined 1963 (d. 1991)
 * Karen Gunderson, joined 1964, from The Back Porch Majority. (d. 2018)
 * Paul Potash, joined 1964, from The Back Porch Majority. Later half of the duo Art & Paul.
 * Ann White, joined 1964, from The Back Porch Majority, later a member of The Love Generation.
 * Bob Buchanan, joined 1965. Later a member of the International Submarine Band.
 * Rusty Evans, joined 1965. From The All Night Singers, later a rock and country performer.
 * Pete Henderson, joined 1965. Formed the comedy duo Skiles and Henderson, rejoined the Minstrels in 2010. (d. 2018)
 * Bill Skiles, joined 1965, later formed the comedy team Skiles and Henderson. (d. 2011)
 * Will Teague, joined 1965
 * Michael P. Whalen, joined 1965. From The Good Time Singers on The Andy Williams Show.
 * Kim Carnes, joined 1966
 * Mark Holly, joined 1966.
 * Kyoko Ito, joined 1966. Later a pop/television star in Japan.
 * Ede Mae Kellogg, joined 1966.
 * Michael McGinnis, joined 1966. Later a successful singer/songwriter.
 * Peter-John Morse, joined 1966
 * Kenny Rogers, joined 1966, from the Bobby Doyle Three. (d. 2020)
 * Mike Settle, joined 1966
 * Terry Williams, joined 1966, later a founding member of Kenny Rogers and the First Edition.
 * Keith Barbour, joined 1967
 * Moro Buddy Bohn, joined 1967
 * Thelma Camacho, joined 1967
 * Joe Frank Carollo, joined 1967. Later a member of Hamilton, Joe Frank and Reynolds.
 * David Jackson, joined 1967. From The Good Time Singers on The Andy Williams Show, later a folk/country performer.
 * Mayf Nutter, joined 1967. Later a country performer.
 * Mark Springer, joined 1967
 * John E. Tymon II, joined in 1968 (d. 2020)
 * Bruce Bermudez, joined 1968. Later formed the band Catahoula.
 * Carol Carmichael, aka Kim Carmichael, joined 1968
 * Fats Johnson, joined 1968. Later a folk singer and comedian. (d. 2007).
 * Rex Kramer, joined 1968.
 * Ellen Whalen, joined 1969, from The Back Porch Majority
 * Myles Williams, joined 1969
 * Bill Zorn, joined 1969. Later a member of The Limeliters and The Kingston Trio.
 * Russell Thornberry, joined 196?. Later became a successful recording artist in Canada.

 * 1970s
 * Gaylan Taylor, joined 1970. Later with The Limeliters (d. 2021)
 * Christine Andreas, joined 1971
 * John Anthony, joined 1971. Later a band singer for Guy Lombardo and His Royal Canadians.
 * Linda Hart, joined 1971
 * Terry Meeuwsen, joined 1971
 * Nick Woods, joined 1961, from The Randy Sparks Three (d. 1971).
 * Judy Thompson, joined 1972.
 * Amy Castro Payuyo-Stinstrom, joined 1976. Simultaneously with Pesnyary
 * Avril Chown, joined 1976
 * Nanette Florian, joined 1977
 * William Florian, joined 1977

 * 1990s
 * Eddie Boggs, joined 1998. Later became a teacher. (d. 2014)
 * Lori Brandon, joined 1998 (d. 2012)

 * 2000s
 * Chuck Cole, joined 2004
 * Rick Hill, joined 2008

 * 2010s
 * Dave Deutschendorf, joined 2010
 * Jennifer Lind, joined 2010
 * Greg O'Haver, joined 2010
 * Tholow Chan, joined 2015 (originally part of The Back Porch Majority in the 1960s)
 * Ed Stockton, joined 2015
 * Julie Theroux, joined 2017
 * Dave Rainwater

Albums

 * Presenting the New Christy Minstrels (aka Exciting New Folk Chorus) (1962)
 * The New Christy Minstrels in Person (1962)
 * The New Christy Minstrels Tell Tall Tales! (Legends and Nonsense) (1963)
 * Ramblin' Featuring Green, Green (1963)
 * Merry Christmas! (1963)
 * Today and Other Songs from 'Advance to the Rear' (1964)
 * Land of Giants (1964)
 * The New Christy Minstrels Sing and Play Cowboys and Indians (1965)
 * Chim Chim Cher-ee (1965)
 * The New Christy Minstrels (1965, CBS/Sony, Japan)
 * The Quiet Sides of the New Christy Minstrels (1965, Columbia Record Club)
 * The Wandering Minstrels (1965)
 * Amore, Ritorna... (1965, CBS Italy, as 'The Minstrels')
 * In Italy...In Italian (1966)
 * New Kick! (1966)
 * Christmas with the Christies (1966)
 * Greatest Hits (1966)
 * On Tour Through Motortown (1968)
 * Big Hits from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang with Arthur Treacher (1968)
 * Barry McGuire and Featuring Members of the New Christy Minstrels (1968, Pickwick, 33 Records)
 * The New Christy Minstrels (1970 RCA Japan; not released in the US)
 * A Sanremo (1970 Miura Italy; not released in the US)
 * You Need Someone to Love (1970, Gregar)
 * Greatest Hits (1973, Embassy)
 * Keep Japan Beautiful (1975 Warner/Reprise Japan; not released in the US)
 * The Great Soap Opera Themes (1976)
 * Permanent Wave (1984, Polo. Rare limited release)
 * The Very Best of the New Christy Minstrels (1996, Vanguard)
 * Today/Ramblin (1997, Collectables, Sony Music Special Projects)
 * The Definitive New Christy Minstrels (1998)
 * Coat Your Minds with Honey, Hits & Highlights 1962–1968 (1999, Raven Records, Australia)
 * Live from Ledbetter's (1999, recorded in 1964)
 * Christmas with the New Christy Minstrels: Complete! (2001, Collectables, Sony Music Special Projects)
 * The New Christy Minstrels – Presenting & In Person (2003, Collectables, Sony Music Special Projects)
 * The New Christy Minstrels – Tell Tall Tales! Legends And Nonsense / Land Of Giants (2003, Collectables, Sony Music Special Projects)
 * Merry Christmas, Volume II: 42 Years Later (2005, Minstrelz)
 * Stars from the New Christy Minstrels (2007, Ember Records)
 * Recycled: What's Old Is New! (2009)
 * A Retrospective (1962–1970) (2012, Real Gone Music, Sony Music Commercial Music Group)
 * Nice Time to Be Alive (2013)
 * Merry Christmas! The Complete Columbia Christmas Recordings 1963–1966 (2013, Real Gone Music)
 * Exciting New Folk Chorus / In Person (2017, Jasmine Records, UK)

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