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Talk:Guelph

Twin Cities
Why are there twin cities in Italy? could someone explain this? Edstamos (talk) 15:43, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It's my understanding that Guelph attracted a sizable number of Italian immigrants in its early years, to work as stonemasons. The Italian community remains a significant presence in Guelph. Tunborough (talk) 18:41, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Image Unsatisfactory
I don't think the Commons image for Guelph places the city in the best light. Is there any way we could adjust it to something more postcard-worthy (preferably showing the church)? I can take the picture, if needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.10.54 (talk) 22:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Some of the images are irrelevant. Osprey over the bridge? The pictures look like they were taken by someone trying to convince readers that this truly is a gem of a town. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.132.12.186 (talk) 03:55, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Preferably not the church. The church scares the hell out of me, but not at all in the way I suppose it intends. Also it tends to leave me feeling sort of apathetically annoyed and angry. --Jammoe (talk) 04:12, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

I changed the main image to one of mine, which I took last year in Autumn. I think this photograph puts the city in very nice light and includes both some of downtown and the church to give the viewer a good, overall impression of what the city looks like. I would like to know what do the authors think? Please let me know. Optionbooter (talk) 16:08, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

 * I rather like it. It could benefit from a caption that says what street it's looking along, and the name of the church.   PK  T (alk)  23:05, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

 * Good suggestion. I added a caption.Optionbooter (talk) 03:43, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

 * I concur, nice pic. I'd encourage you to add more pictures if you have them! -- Natural  R X 16:20, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Cable Television, Wire Coat Hangers and Possibly Jockstraps
How's that for a section title? Fred Metcalf was undoubtedly one of the first people in the cable industry in Canada, but there's no way Guelph had the first system in North America. If you check out the references below you'll see that it's unlikely that it's even the first system in Canada, London Ontario, Montreal and Vancouver are the most likely locations for the very first in this country.

Cable History

http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blcabletelevision.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multichannel_television_in_Canada

Easton, Ken (2000) Building an Industry; A History of Cable Television and its Development in Canada, Pottersfield Press, ISBN:189590028X

Wire coathangers were invented by Albert J. Parkhouse, born in St. Thomas Ont., who later worked for a firm in southern Michigan where he was employed when he developed them. http://www.vcnet.com/garym/hanger/hanger.html

Requires TIFF viewer: http://patft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=822981

I'm very dubious about the claim for Guelph as being the home of the invention of the jockstrap in the 1920's as well, however I left it alone until I can find a better source for the information that appears below.

http://www.shockdoc.com/news/cpHistory.html

User:Deconstructhis

Source
The source of this information is from the City of Guelph and the Guelph Museum. This information was and is recognized by many people both in and outside of Guelph. It is like the lightbulb, invented by Canadians but the patent was sold off to an American.

Even in the documentry about Mr metcalf, it was one of the first in North America.

http://www.guelph.ca/living.cfm?itemid=70031&smocid=1618

I'm not doubting that the information that appears here has "a" source, I'm doubting its validity in this case, which is why it's never a good thing to quote only one source. For instance this statement:

"Guelph was one of North America's first cable TV systems. Fred Metcalfe created McLean Hunter Television and their first broadcast was Queen Elizabeth's Coronation in 1953."

I challenged and changed it in its initial form because it said flatly that Guelph "was the home of North America's first cable TV system". I'm not aware of any reputable source that will substantiate that statement. If it exists, I would like to see the citations. In terms of the second part of the statement, which you chose to put back in, that Mr. Metcalfe "created McLean Hunter Television and their first broadcast was Queen Elizabeth's Coronation in 1953", I'm at a complete loss. Mr. Metcalfe started 'Neighborhood TV' in Guelph in 1952, Queen Elizabeth's coronation was June 2, 1953:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II_of_the_United_Kingdom

I don't understand in what sense that the "broadcast" could be regarded as their "first", since 'Neighborhood TV' had already been distributing signals for circa one year at that point. In terms of Mr. Metcalfe having "created" McLean Hunter, to the best of my knowledge Metcalfe sold his cable holdings to McLean Hunter sometime in the mid 60's and later on headed the organization in an executive capacity in the 70's and 80's. I'm not trying to be a pest. I'm simply suggesting that the whole idea of Wikipedia (in its ideal form at least) is to provide information that can be relied on by the general reader for veracity. In my opinion, just because the City of Guelph or a local museum says something on its website doesnt necessarily mean its true. If you're truly interested there are some good leads in the following:

http://www.broadcastinghistory.ca/cable_services/TheHistoryOfCableTelevision.html

(you may have to cut and paste that link to make it work)

and

Easton, Ken (2000) Building an Industry; A History of Cable Television and its Development in Canada, Pottersfield Press, ISBN:189590028X

User:Deconstructhis

Neighbourhood Television Ltd. in Guelph in 1952 was the first registered cable system in Canada. Hence, it was the home of North America's first cable TV system (Incorporated)

The source information has documents, video and other resources that do prove all the things claimed on the list. if you have a problem with that, contact them! museum@guelph.ca

 * one last comment from me

Personally, I think that the city of Guelph Ontario already has a history much too rich and interesting all on its own, without having to bother with "stretching" historical origin claims like what appears to be going on here. To each their own I guess. Incidently, by the end of 1952, there were already approximately 70 cable television systems in operation in North America. As Wikipedia develops I think it's going to be quite interesting to see a lot of long held local 'invention origin' tales held up to the light and discussed in both the U.S. and Canada. I'm sure there will be lots of "ruffled feathers" yet to come. :)

deconstructhis

Geography, Climate Info
Need someone to take the temp. info and put it in chart form.
 * Done. The location is awkward because the infobox is long and floating over the article. If the Intro, History, Climate, and Topography sections are lengthened, it should position more appropriately.Thorlius (talk) 17:06, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Walmart battle is over
The walmart battle is over and walmart won.
 * kinda

It is worth noting that while walmart did establish a store, the council that approved the bylaw was vitually all defeated in the subsequent city council elections. cduke —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.40.1.129 (talk) 19:27, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Map?
What's happened to the map? Lupin 04:00, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't believe any map was uploaded yet, a map should be uploaded with the name Guelph,_Ontario_Location.png. The template just adds the option to put the map in.  There is an example map on Toronto, or Windsor, Ontario that I made.  BCKILLa 09:42, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Guelph is not on the 401
Although you can see signs for interchanges for Guelph along Hwy. #401, the city itself is not. To reach Guelph from the 401, one must travel up Hwy. #6 for about 0.5hr and pass through the Puslinch Twp. in Wellington Co. before you reach the city limits. See Ontario provincial highway 6. --chris 20:45, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

John Galt
John Galt was over the Canada Company, but he was a Scotsman. The article as currently written leads to an incorrect inference.

 * John Galt, originally from Scotland, was superintendent of the Canada Company in its first years. I have revised the article to include more about him and the Canada Company.Peter K Burian (talk) 19:05, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

WG Portal
I didn't re-add it, but I was going to revert...however I did a whois and it's registered to the city of guelph. So that means it is community run I believe.

Blog Guelph
Running a WHOIS on blogguelph.com shows that it's registered to a private corporation. If it was City of Guelph-run, I could certainly justify keeping a link here, much like the Wellington-Guelph Community Portal. However, Wikipedia is not a repository for every single Guelph-based website on the Internet - only the official ones. Therefore, I can't justify keeping a link to that site on this page. Andy Saund e rs 20:38, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Concerning John Kenneth Galbraith

He was an undergraduate of the Ontario Agricultural College, which is in Guelph. I don't think that this sort of temporary residence should mean he should be included as a "son of Guelph".

Misc. Facts about Guelph
Has been modified to avoid copyright problems!
 * Nice to see some effort at avoiding the copyright violations, but I think they're a little too similar, and not very essential to the article, so I removed them. See below. --Padraic 16:10, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Slavery??
"And in 1882 Guelph became the first North American settlement to abolish slavery." Huh? Could the date be wrong? Or is this some sort of vandalism? Blotto adrift 17:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Slavery
This is vandalism. Guelph did not abolish slavery in 1882, and if it did, it would not have been the first jurisdiction to do so

According to the 2006 census (which was released March 13, 2007), the population of Guelph is only 114,943, and not the 125,00 stated in the article. Please make this correction.

Wellington County
What is the relationship between Guelph and Wellington County? This article says its the seat of Wellington County, but the Wellington County article says Guelph is a seperate entity except as a census division. Category:Guelph, Ontario is also a subcategory of Category:Municipalities in Wellington County, Ontario. bobanny 05:50, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

The headquarters of Wellington County are in the city of Guelph, but the city of Guelph is technically not under the county's jurisdiction in the same manner that other regional townships are (e.g. Minto, Mapleton, Puslinch). The county and the city have to come to special arrangements to share certain joint services (ambulance, senior citizens homes). The mayor of Guelph is a member of the county council (as are mayors of all the other townships), but I do not know when Guelph was severed from the county's governance (if it was ever a part of it). Someone in the city or county offices would probably be able to explain this better.
 * The mayor of Guelph does not sit on county council. There are a few joint committees, to oversee the joint services you mention, but that's the extent of it. Tunborough (talk) 18:45, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Inclusion of "news blogs" in article
Wikipedia's external links policy states, under "Links to be avoided": "Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority." Who is the "recognized authority" behind The Fountain Pen and Inside Guelph? I do not feel that these sites are suitable for inclusion into Wikipedia at the present time; we should discuss the merits of the individual sites here prior to their inclusion. Also, to the contention that "Toronto has online media" -- Toronto also has about 30 times more people than Guelph does. Andy Saunders 03:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

 * In terms of recognized authority - The Fountain Pen is a registered company under BBS 42, a web media company and has been around since about 1999. Inside Guelph is published by Royal Rivers Media Group, which is based on and simlar to the recognized authorities like: Freshdaily which is Canada's first national blog network publishing News and Information Blogs in Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal. Torontoist is published by a company called Gothamist LLC out of New York and have dozens of simlar news blogs around North America and the globe. Paved.ca is published by the Toronto Star. Spacing Wire is published by Spacing Magazine.

 * In terms of 'size' of Guelph, that seems like an sorry excuse. The city may be a smaller then Toronto, but almost every city out there has some form serious weblogs and thus should be published in a list of media on Wikipedia. As it says: "Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority." However, under the Toronto media listings it says: "This section is for major serious weblogs, such as those written by journalists, devoted to coverage of Toronto affairs. Please do not add personal weblogs of Torontonians that do not tend to meet these criteria, weblogs peripherally related to Toronto, etc." As I have stated above, both of these Guelph Weblogs are published in Guelph and by recogized outlets simlar to the ones elsewhere and should remain. 74.123.61.133 19:50, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

guelphsocialjustice.org
Why has the link to guelphsocialjustice.org been removed several times? The website is a university initiative, and works as an inclusive alternative media source. It features a wiki and a blog. I would think people involved in wikipedia would be more open to the inclusion of the site. It isn't a personal blog; it's a community blog. "SNAP Guelph" is just a bunch of pictures of wealthy people attending events, and an excuse to get advertising dollars. If you want to talk about "balanced news," let me deconstruct the Mercury for you... why is wikipedia working to promote "recognized authorities" in the first place? Who's doing the "recognizing"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.114.210.173 (talk • contribs)
 * However, Guelph Social Justice is a group that focuses on social justice activism, which is seen a "politically motivated" site under Wikipedia rules. A good example of a Weblog is BlogTO is, which offer a broad and non political look at life in Toronto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.123.61.133 (talk • contribs)

Okay. I would say that there is no de jure Wikipedia recognition of news sites. However, there is de facto recognition. In my opinion, the general population would be willing to tell others "I read in the Mercury/Tribune/SNAP Guelph/Ontarion that this is taking place." People give recognition to a news source when they themselves are willing to use it as a source of news and information. The weblink to Guelph Social Justice was originally placed here by a representative of the site, which gave the impression that they were trying to use Wikipedia to promote their site, something which is categorically frowned upon. Therefore, the link was removed. If Guelph Social Justice gets large enough, such that multiple established Wikipedia users can agree on its importance to providing Guelph news, or it is provided some official status by the City of Guelph, I would have absolutely no qualms regarding its inclusion on this page. Until then, I have major qualms. Andy Saunders 16:10, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Population
I am nearly certain that the population of Guelph is over 120,000. I don't live in Guelph anymore but I can recall coming into the city and seeing a population over 120,000. The number edited by Polaron from the 2006 Statcan site just seems like it is too low. I know it is statcan and their numbers usually are considered correct, but 114,000 seems way too low considering all the growth the city has undergone in just the last 5 to 10 years. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong but I have to believe that statcan got this one wrong. --JackHanlon 18:50, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Name
Anyone know where the name of this place comes from? Is it a native group? TheTyrant 01:00, 21 July 2007 (UTC)TheTyrant
 * Good question. We'll just have to look this up in Wikipedia: "The town was named to honour Britain's royal family, the Hanoverians, who were descended from the Guelfs, one of the great political factions in late medieval Germany and Italy, and the ancestral family of George IV, the reigning British monarch, thus the nickname The Royal City The directors of the Canada Company, Galt's employers, had actually wanted the city to be named Goderich, but reluctantly accepted the fait accompli." (see history section)

 * Oh, well. There is a Goderich, Ontario after all.  About the same era, a bit north and west. Pustelnik (talk) 01:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

 * I for one believe that Galt clearly intended the name as a double entendre; on account of Berlin (now Kitchener) being such an ascendant centre of Germanic settlers. (Guelph being coined as the Colonial English equivalent of the Italian Guelphs -- loyal to the Crown of the English Welf --- in opposition to the strong German city rivals; i.e. the predominantly Germanic / 'Ghibelline' citys of the Holy Roman Empire.)

 * Remember: this was a bit of a low and uneasy point in popular sentiment towards the royal family; George the third was generally held responsible for the loss of the American colonies, and both he and George the IV were unpopular.

 * At the very least this double entendre (re Berlin/Kitchener's Germanic settlers) is the most obvious reason why the more obscure name "Guelph" was chosen rather than the more obvious, "Hanover". (Hanover would have been a clearer nod to the royal family -- BUT also to their Saxon-Germanic ancestry...)

 * [ps see the Guelphs_and_Ghibellines, to learn about the wider, popular use of the name Guelph, re Holy Roman, anti-German city states.]

 * Seipjere (talk) 20:13, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Quality Rating
I gave this article an initial quality rating of "B", but I wouldn't argue with the lower rating of "Start". There is a reasonably strong level of content here, but the article could use more inline referencing and documentation of sources. PKT (talk) 22:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Padraic and others for your work to improve the article. I took the liberty of moving the 1855 map b/c it was causing a chunk of whitespace under the 'History' heading in my browser today, even at full size. PKT (talk) 16:37, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Paul Fendley
Is there a place for Paul Fendley in this article? ... He was a top NHL prospect who led the Guelph CMC's Jr. A hockey team to the 1972 Centennial Cup. He was a local boy and he died as a result of an on-ice incident in the final game of the national championship. As far as I know he is a part of Guelph folklore and is still recognized as an important part of Guelph's history or at least sports history... any thoughts? DMighton (talk) 07:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Recent deletions
After realizing how much of this article was plagiarized from the City of Guelph history page, its trivia page, and the Guelph entry in the Canadian Encyclopedia, I've deleted many parts of this article. If I deleted any original work by fellow editors, I apologize; I'm just erring on the side of caution. Please feel free to re-add (and remember that citations are sorely needed!). --Padraic 14:12, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Rename page
There is a proposal to rename this page. Please discuss it here. (Talk:Guelph (disambiguation)) Mind  matrix  16:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Demographics
What on earth is going on with the demographics? The population column adds up to ~151 000, and the percentages exceed 100%. Can someone clarify what is going on here? -- Natural  R X 03:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Simple. If your mother was Irish and you father was Italian, you would answer Yes to both. Secondarywaltz (talk) 03:48, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Names of the neighborhoods of Guelph
Do we actually have any? like look at the neighboring towns like listing them would be good like Pine Ridge, Westminster Woods, Blueberry Hill, Watson Creek, Starwood, etc, would adding the neighborhood names be something to add to the article ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.50.215.119 (talk) 02:48, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

 * I decided to do this, when new housing developments go up they put a name of the neighborhood, they also name the area IE Grange and Cityview named Blueberry Hill, there is a map at the Home Hardware at Grange and Victoria Plaza, that also has names of some of the neighborhoods. I really should check it out and add to it. 174.88.82.33 (talk) 00:09, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I think there could be some debate over whether these are neighbourhoods or subdivisions. Most of the listed neighbourhoods are developer-named subdivisions. Do we count these as neighbourhoods. As a lifelong Guelph resident, the two listed neighbourhoods which I recognize by name as organically named are Brant and Exhibition Park. Guelph's oldest neighbourhood is commonly known as The Ward (officially, St. Patrick's Ward) and all electoral wards are numbered. Where do we draw the line between a subdivision and a neighbourhood? Perhaps we should look at neighbourhood associations as a way to distinguish. Without any citation or substantiation, I would question whether or not this section as it currently is belongs in the entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.69.13.100 (talk) 22:41, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

 * I'll research a bit more but it definitely is of interest, Brooklyn and College Hill are heritage districts, and Farmham and Hamilton Corner are amalgamated — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.88.82.33 (talk) 18:11, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Where's Ronny?
Please add Ron Asseltine to the People Section. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Asselstine Not only was he an NHL Ref, but was a member of Satan's Choice for many years. And my neighbour :) Roan Art (talk) 15:05, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

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 * Absurd deletion request IMO. I have responded with Speedy Keep. -- Natural  R X 19:13, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * From the early responses it looks like an easy keep... if by some unholy chance it does get deleted I'll personally do my best to recreate the shot myself. Tabercil (talk) 19:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Notable music
The music section has been edited many times now with the addition or removal of a band or two. I think it all sprouts from "notable bands including..." when we haven't even defined what is notable, or if specific bands should be included at all. Before this goes further, I have removed the bands. Please discuss so we can gather some consensus. Cheers. -- Natural  R X 14:04, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Photograph needed
Hello! Is there a Wikipedian in or around Guelph who could take a photograph of the new Guelph City Hall and upload it to Wikimedia Commons. It seems odd that we do not have an image of the city's new seat of government. Cheers, --Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:18, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Wrong flag?
The flag used on this page is this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guelph#/media/File:Flag_of_Guelph.svg but I'm pretty sure this is the actual flag: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Guelph_City_Hall_cropped.jpg (you can see it better in this picture from the Mayor's blog: http://mayorsblog.guelph.ca/2008/11/11/rembrance-day-recognizing-service/). I haven't found any actual photos of the one that's currently being used on this page. Where did it come from and can anyone confirm which is the correct flag? -- PB54 21:45, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I drew File:Flag of Guelph.svg, which was based on File:Guelph_flag_1.JPG. That flag appears to be lower resolution, highly artifacted version of the file that was on FOTW at the time. Since then FOTW have updated their site and the now consider the flag you posted the official flag. They are calling the other flag "Flag of the citizens of Guelph". I will try to make the correct flag in a couple of days. --Svgalbertian (talk) 15:54, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Svgalbertian (talk) 21:57, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

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Lead: should unemployment and crime be included?
At one time both levels were at record lows in Guelph but for some time now, crime and unemployment levels have been average, or higher than average, for Southern Ontario. (e.g. Oct. 2017, unemployment is at 5.9% vs. 5.1% for Kitchener-Waterloo).

I updated the lead with current info, but wonder if there is any value now to including either topic in the lead. The very low numbers did not last for very long, so are they historically significant? IMHO: It's old news now and not significant enough for the lead, in my view.

I propose that we delete the discussion of the temporarily low crime and unemployment rate from the lead and make sure it's covered in the body of this article. Peter K Burian (talk) 14:21, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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Two identical pictures
In the article, there are two identical pictures, with different captions, concerning Allan's mill.Ekisbares (talk) 13:53, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Good catch, Ekisbares. I removed the second one. Peter K Burian (talk) 14:58, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

A long project

 * The Old Quebec Street Mall was a street built in the 1800s that was enclosed and covered; that work was completed in 1984 and the street has become an indoor shopping mall.

Okay—it didn't really take over 100 years to build a shopping mall, did it? (Even if 19th-century people had some idea what a shopping mall would be?) I suspect "that work" refers to its conversion into one. – AndyFielding (talk) 11:30, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Italic type

Names of ships
The names of ships?! Surely this shouldn't be third on the list, if it's there at all.

--jc

Meaning?
"Words used as words."

What does that even mean?

--Frostyservant 04:00, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I've tried to clarify what I believe the original meaning was. (Felix the Cassowary)

This article seems rather ... short and incomplete compared to the information easily obtainable. If I had the time, I'd do a bit of research and expand it now. But I don't. I've added a brief history but I hope this article can become one of the best articles on Wikipedia (at least compared to its current state) because there's so much more to italics then what's written already... I've added a stub comment for now in the hopes that maybe someone else will help. Felix the Cassowary 13:25, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

POV
"The first italic type was employed by Aldus Manutius on his famous edition of Virgil, published at Venice in 1501, and is said to have been cut by Francesco de Bologna to imitate the beautiful hand-writing of Petrarch, famous Italian poet. The form at first consisted only of lower-case, important words being started with small roman capitals and it was independent of any roman font. The italic was used for the complete text, and in the hands of Aldus and the Elzevirs it made an admittedly graceful page medium, but somewhat too informal, in our estimation, and less legible than the more dignified roman style. The use of italic for emphasis in roman text was a later development which some say has marked the loss of its individual character, and not until Garamond made matched romans and italics was associated use considered."

Highlighted some pov statements, and also weasel-words in the last sentence. [unsigned comment by anonymous user at 69.119.123.118

The entire above paragraph is a direct quote from Type Lore by J.L. Frazier in 1925. --137.112.144.199 00:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

What about italic handwriting?
Anyone out there able to provide descriptive info regarding the new italic handwriting as a substitute for cursive or block print?

Fyi... http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/family/article/0,2792,DRMN_107_4536159,00.html It's estimated that 7 percent of children are being taught italic, which is popular with home-schoolers. The Beaverton, Ore., school district has adopted italic as its writing curriculum, and it's an option in the Portland district. In Denver Public Schools, there's no districtwide handwriting program, spokesman Mark Stevens says.

I believe that a few years ago the Portland, Ore., school board had to settle a debate between teachers in the district who wanted to teach their children to write D'Nealian and those who preferred italic. The school board decided to let each teacher do whatever he or she wanted.

D'Nealian was abandoned in my son's school district in California after he finished Kindergarten, but I don't think they replaced it with italic. 4.243.146.81 17:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Oblique/Italic
This article begins by making a distinction between proper italic and labels simply slanted fonts oblique...then the rest of the article discusses oblique. I suggest that this should be moved to Oblique_type so this article can focus on the history of the typeface. bodhidharma 14:52, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Italic/Oblique and non western letters
Could someone please diversify the history? How did it come that latin script oblique letters look one way (today?), but others, e.g. cyrillic letters, do not. Also do these scripts make the same distinction between italics and oblique? Are there any in depth sources on this topic?--Hhielscher 15:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * There is a passing reference to left-leaning Arabic. I think much more detail is required. Are italics used in the same way in Arabic? Are there changes in form apart from leaning left? Tesspub (talk) 16:59, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Chinese and Japanese
The following sentence exists inside the article Punctuation: "Italic type is never used in Chinese or Japanese.". My question: Why is italic type never used in Chinese or Japanese? --88.77.242.131 18:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Basically because it's a European invention. As far as I know, it's used only in the Latin and Cyrillic alphabets, and no other writing systems. (I'm not sure about Greek, but I don't think it is.) —Angr 00:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * There are italic type for Greeks too, and not just the capitals. In Times New Roman, italic lower case gamma has the ball-shaped terminator that is not found in Roman font. As for lacking italic CJK letters, there are practical reasons of the lacking italic type. Chinese and Japanese languages have been adapted to be written vertically and horizontally, so if you try to apply italic or oblique effect, how should you tilt the letters? GUIs and word processors may have their ways of doing it, but those methods cause the same letter to look differently depending on whether the text flow is horizontal or vertical. If you think that's bad, at least it doesn't involve right to left text flow. --Jacob Poon 01:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob Poon (talk • contribs)
 * In many (but not all) ways the distinction between katakana and hiragana mirrors the distinction between italic and Roman. I think this is at least worth mentioning Tesspub (talk) 16:53, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Marking Titles
Where the italics do not indicate emphasis, but are marking a title or something that is being mentioned or defined, quotation marks may be substituted:
 * The word "the" is an article.
 * An "even" number is one that is a multiple of 2.

There is a problem with the second example. If one was going to emphasize "even", then one should italicize it only. There shouldn't even be quotation marks anywhere in that statement as it stands. When defining a word, one shouldn't surround the word with quotation marks. I believe the example to be poor, and the rule defined as poor also.

For example:

A marker is a felt-tip writing or coloring utensil using ink. The word "marker" refers to a felt-tip writing or coloring utensil using ink.

I will change it for now. If someone disputes it, change it back. LtDonny 23:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Ode to Joy is a bad example
I think the use of "Ode to Joy" is a poor example for the article. In the examples it seems clear by context that the poem itself isn't being referenced, but Beethoven's composition is. The problem is that Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" isn't a stand-alone composition, but is the choral finale to his 9th symphony. Based upon our statement in the article, "Works that appear within larger works ... are not italicized, but merely set off in quotation marks," it should be set off by quotation marks, not italics. Gentgeen (talk) 04:10, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Very valid point, & I'll change this example to something less ambiguous. Actually, the whole Usage section may belong someplace else, since it's not so much about italic forms as the distinction between roman and italic (or oblique), and usage probably varies from style book to style book. But I won't get into that right now. Herbivore (talk) 03:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

mistakes
saying 'This style is called "italic" simply because the style originated in Italy.' sounds too cheap - more information is needed there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nitrofurano (talk • contribs) 18:28, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Korean
Is italic type ever used in Korean? --88.78.2.206 (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Italic of GREEK origin
According to several ancient texts, Greeks wrote in cursive i nthe 6th century before Christ. There is no reference whatsoever to this in the article and it is wrongly attributed to Italy as origin. 195.10.10.180 (talk) 16:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Non-English Usage Rules
All the rules cited are drawn from English usage, although this is not stated explicitly. What about non-English users of the Latin alphabet? (French, Portuguese, German, etc) Tesspub (talk) 12:30, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Lines above letters
Why are there lines above certain letters when using italics?AmericanLeMans (talk) 16:19, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Parentheses
The article says that the Chicago Manual of Style recommends parentheses around italicized text should also be italicized, but I believe Chicago 15 and 16 recommend otherwise. Someone with access to a few different editions of Chicago may want to confirm and edit as appropriate. John P. McCaskey (talk) 17:15, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Why no fi ligature in the examples?
—Wegesrand (talk) 17:33, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Good point. Might get round to this some time. Blythwood (talk) 22:43, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

History
A print of the letters of Catherine of Siena in the year 1500 seems to be considered by most sources to be the earliest use of italic font, not the 1501 text currently listed in this article. I would suggest emending it. The frontispiece in which it appears is perhaps interesting too and worth including in the article as a historical moment of experimentation in typeface. See for instance, https://exhibitions.cul.columbia.edu/exhibits/show/type_to_print/roman/catherine, http://exhibits.lib.byu.edu/aldine/4Siena.html. Altenmaeren (talk) 17:47, 21 October 2014 (UTC)Altenmaeren
 * There are italic letters on that page. However, they're not printed as letters but rather as part of a printed illustration. Or is that beside the point? Richard 16:17, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Excellent point. The "s" on the left and on the right look a bit different, but otherwise it looks consistent enough to say that this is the (albeit minor) use of a newly-cast font (a test run?), rather than a carving or engraving of italic letters on a woodcut or engraving. But I'm not a typography expert, really, more a manuscript guy! Altenmaeren (talk) 12:10, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Since that print was made by Manutius as well, 'test run' might be a perfect way of putting it. Richard 12:25, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

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Jonathan Kwitny

Jonathan Kwitny (March 23, 1941 – November 26, 1998) was an American investigative journalist.

Biography
Kwitny was born in Indianapolis. He earned a bachelor's degree in journalism at the University of Missouri's School of Journalism in 1962, and a master's degree in history at New York University in 1964. Kwitny was married twice. His first wife, Martha Kaplan, a deputy New Jersey state attorney general, with whom he had two daughters, died in 1978. His second wife was the poet Wendy Wood Kwitny, with whom he had two sons. Jonathan Kwitny died of stomach cancer in 1998.

His awards included the George Polk Award for television investigative reporting and the University of Missouri School of Journalism's honor medal for career achievement. Kwitny was also the author of several books on subjects which ranged from the Nugan Hand Bank scandal to a biography of Pope John Paul II.

Career
Kwitny's career in journalism began as a reporter for the Perth Amboy News Tribune in 1963. In 1971 he joined The Wall Street Journal, where his articles frequently appeared as front-page features. In 1987, together with producer Tom Naughton, Kwitny created a half-hour news program for New York's WNYC-TV called The Kwitny Report. The show was carried on the PBS network and won the Polk Award for television investigative reporting in 1989, but was canceled that same year. At the time of his death, he was working for the Gannett newspaper company.

Kwitny was the author of a number of non-fiction books, including a biography of Pope John Paul II. When Kwitny met John Paul in the Vatican for a private audience in 1998, the Pope's first comment to him was, "I have read your book."

Books

 * The Mullendore Murder Case (1974). On the murder of Oklahoma rancher E.C. Mullendore III.
 * Shakedown (1977). A novel.
 * Vicious Circles: The Mafia in the Marketplace (1979). On Mafia involvement in white-collar crime. Extract via FBI.
 * Endless Enemies: The Making of an Unfriendly World (1984). On U.S. foreign policy.
 * The Crimes of Patriots: A True Story of Dope, Dirty Money, and the CIA (1988). On the Nugan Hand Bank scandal.
 * Acceptable Risks (1992). On unapproved treatments for AIDS.
 * The Super Swindlers: The Incredible Record of America's Greatest Financial Scams (1994)
 * An update of The Fountain Pen Conspiracy (1973)
 * Man of the Century: The Life and Times of Pope John Paul II (1997). ISBN 978-0805026887.

Book reviews

 * "Reinvestigating Watergate: The Elusive Glow of Truth." Review of Secret Agenda, by Jim Hougan. Wall Street Journal (Jan. 3, 1985), p. 9.

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Franklin D. Richards (Mormon apostle)

Franklin Dewey Richards (April 2, 1821 – December 9, 1899) was a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) from 1849 until his death. He served as the quorum's president from 1898 until his death. He was the nephew of apostle Willard Richards, one of two men who survived the mob attack at Carthage Jail that took the life of LDS Church founder, Joseph Smith and brother, Hyrum Smith.

His son, George F. Richards, and grandson, LeGrand Richards, were both members of the quorum, while his son also served as president of the quorum from 1945 to 1950. Richards also served in the Utah Territorial Legislature in 1852 and 1856.

Franklin County, Idaho, is named after Richards.

Biography
Richards was born in Richmond, Massachusetts. He married Jane Snyder in Nauvoo, Illinois. After helping her and their children start on the Mormon exodus to the west in 1846, Richards and his brother, Samuel, departed on a mission to Great Britain. He served there as a missionary from 1846 to 1848, and on at least two more occasions, during the 1850s and 1860s.

Calling
Lyman Wight was excommunicated from the church in December 1848 because he refused to join the church in the Salt Lake Valley. This left an opening in the Quorum of the Twelve. To fill the vacancy, and to bring the number of the quorum up to twelve, Richards was called and ordained as the fourth of four apostles on February 12, 1849. The other three apostles were Charles C. Rich, Lorenzo Snow, and Erastus Snow. A short time after his call as a member of the Twelve, Richards went to England, where he served as president of the British Mission and then as president of the European Mission. In these positions, Richards also served as editor of the Millennial Star and as director of the Perpetual Emigrating Fund's operations in Europe. He helped compile the documents that are now part of the Pearl of Great Price while serving as a mission president.

From 1889 until his death, Richards was the church's twelfth official Church Historian.

President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles
When Wilford Woodruff died on September 2, 1898, Snow succeeded him as church president. As the second apostle in seniority, Richards assumed the role of President of the Quorum of the Twelve. His term ended when he died fifteen months later. He was a member of the Quorum of the Twelve for more than 50 years, the longest tenure of any person who did not become the church's president.

Death
Richards suffered a stroke and paralysis in the autumn of 1899. He died peacefully in his home in Ogden, Utah, on December 9, 1899.

The vacancy in the quorum created by his death was filled by Reed Smoot.

Family
The Richards family is only the third Latter-day Saint family in history with three consecutive generations in the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, with his son, George F. Richards, and grandson, LeGrand Richards, also serving as church apostles.

Another grandson, Franklin D. Richards became a church general authority, serving as an Assistant to the Quorum of the Twelve and later as a member of the Presidency of the Seventy.

A daughter of Richards, Josephine Richards West, was a counselor in the general presidency of the Primary Association.

Another descendant, Kent F. Richards, also served as a general authority seventy and transcribed the collection of journals created by Franklin D. Richards.

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Patapsco High School and Center for the Arts

Patapsco High School and Center For The Arts is a public high school in the United States, located in Dundalk in Baltimore County, Maryland, near Baltimore.

About the School
Patapsco is located in the suburban community of Dundalk, in southeastern Baltimore County. The school boundaries include the north side of Wise Avenue, Langport Rd., Inverness Rd., and North Boundary Road. The building and adjacent fields occupy an entire city block in the Gray Haven neighborhood, just north of the West Inverness neighborhood. Built in 1963, the single-story building has a maximum capacity of 2000 students. The original students in September, 1963 included sophomores and juniors. The first graduating class was in 1965. The serving area of Patapsco borders the serving areas of Sparrows Point High School to the south and east, as well as Dundalk High School to the west. In addition, students from throughout Baltimore County may also apply to the magnet programs, which include Visual Arts, Literary Arts, Dance, Instrumental Music, Theatre, Theatre Tech, and Vocal Music.

Academics
Patapsco High school received a 40.3 out of a possible 97 points (52%) on the 2018-2019 Maryland State Department of Education Report Card and received a 3 out of 5 star rating, ranking in the 32nd percentile among all Maryland schools.

Students
The 2019–2020 enrollment at Patapsco High School and Center for the Arts was 1434 students.

The current graduation rate for the school is 89.68%. Enrollment at the school is currently leveling off at just under 1500, down from a 19-year high of 1650 in 2006.

State championships
Boys Soccer
 * Class 2A 1976, 1977, 1995

Magnet Program
Patapsco incorporated a performing and visual arts magnet in 1995, and has since become a leader in the state for its programs in vocal and instrumental music, performance and technical theatre, dance, and visual art. Students are required to audition for these magnet programs the year prior to attending. Patapsco was recently one of five schools in the nation to be awarded the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts School of Excellence in Arts Education. The individual programs have also won numerous awards and championships locally, regionally, and nationally.

Notable alumni

 * Ron Franklin, former Eclipse Award winning jockey
 * John O'May, Australia-based actor


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Bioerosion

Bioerosion describes the breakdown of hard ocean substrates – and less often terrestrial substrates – by living organisms. Marine bioerosion can be caused by mollusks, polychaete worms, phoronids, sponges, crustaceans, echinoids, and fish; it can occur on coastlines, on coral reefs, and on ships; its mechanisms include biotic boring, drilling, rasping, and scraping. On dry land, bioerosion is typically performed by pioneer plants or plant-like organisms such as lichen, and mostly chemical (e.g. by acidic secretions on limestone) or mechanical (e.g. by roots growing into cracks) in nature.

Bioerosion of coral reefs generates the fine and white coral sand characteristic of tropical islands. The coral is converted to sand by internal bioeroders such as algae, fungi, bacteria (microborers) and sponges (Clionaidae), bivalves (including Lithophaga), sipunculans, polychaetes, acrothoracican barnacles and phoronids, generating extremely fine sediment with diameters of 10 to 100 micrometres. External bioeroders include sea urchins (such as Diadema) and chitons. These forces in concert produce a great deal of erosion. Sea urchin erosion of calcium carbonate has been reported in some reefs at annual rates exceeding 20 kg/m2.

Fish also erode coral while eating algae. Parrotfish cause a great deal of bioerosion using well developed jaw muscles, tooth armature, and a pharyngeal mill, to grind ingested material into sand-sized particles. Bioerosion of coral reef aragonite by parrotfish can range from 1017.7±186.3 kg/yr (0.41±0.07 m3/yr) for Chlorurus gibbus and 23.6±3.4 kg/yr (9.7 10−3±1.3 10−3 m2/yr) for Chlorurus sordidus (Bellwood, 1995).

Bioerosion is also well known in the fossil record on shells and hardgrounds (Bromley, 1970), with traces of this activity stretching back well into the Precambrian (Taylor & Wilson, 2003). Macrobioerosion, which produces borings visible to the naked eye, shows two distinct evolutionary radiations. One was in the Middle Ordovician (the Ordovician Bioerosion Revolution; see Wilson & Palmer, 2006) and the other in the Jurassic (see Taylor & Wilson, 2003; Bromley, 2004; Wilson, 2007). Microbioerosion also has a long fossil record and its own radiations (see Glaub & Vogel, 2004; Glaub et al., 2007).

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Brigham Young Jr.

Brigham Young Jr. (December 18, 1836 – April 11, 1903) served as president of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) from 1899 until his death. His tenure was interrupted for one week in 1901 when Joseph F. Smith was the president of the Quorum.

Early life
Young was born in Kirtland, Ohio, the son of Brigham Young and Mary Ann Angell. Young's twin sister, Mary, died at age seven from the effects of injuries received at age two in a wagon accident. At age twelve, Young drove an ox cart along the Mormon Trail, reaching Salt Lake City in 1848. Young served as a guard and scout in the following years, operating in Salt Lake Valley and the surrounding canyons.

On November 15, 1855, Young married Catherine Curtis Spencer, a daughter of Orson Spencer, with exactly the same name as her mother.

In Utah Territory, Young became a member of the reconstituted Nauvoo Legion. He was involved in the rescue of the Willie and Martin companies of Mormon handcart pioneers. He also served in the Utah War with the troops that worked to halt the advance of Johnston's Army.

In 1861, Young was made a member of the Salt Lake Stake high council.

Early years as a general authority
Brigham Young Sr. ordained three of his sons, Brigham Young Jr., Joseph Angell Young and John Willard Young, as apostles in 1864, without public announcement or adding them to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.

Unlike his brothers, Brigham Young Jr. would later become part of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles four years later in 1868, after the death of Heber C. Kimball and George A. Smith joining the First Presidency. In 1868, he was also a Representative to the Territory of Utah Legislative Assembly. Young Jr. also served as a counselor to his father in the First Presidency of the church from April 8, 1873, until his father's death on August 29, 1877.

Missions to Europe
From 1862 to 1863, Young served as a church missionary in England, spending most of the time in London. During this time, he also accompanied Joseph F. Smith on a trip to Paris, France.

In 1864, Young returned to Europe, this time with his wife, Catherine (Orson Spencer's daughter), as his companion. He was an assistant to mission president Daniel H. Wells. In 1865, when Wells left for Utah, Young succeeded him as president of the European Mission. Brigham and Catherine's son, Joseph Angel Young II, was born in England in 1866 while he was still serving as mission president.

As president of the church's European Mission in 1866 and 1867, Young preached in France, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Russia, the United Kingdom, and Ireland. Young also oversaw the emigration of British Latter-day Saints to Utah Territory. It was from a conversation as Young was about to return to Utah at the end of his time as mission president that Charles W. Penrose wrote the hymn, "Beautiful Zion For Me".

From October 1890 until February 1893 Young served for a second time as president of the European Mission. The mission was headquartered in Liverpool, and Young directly supervised missionary work in the British Isles, while also serving as a leader over the mission presidents of the various missions on the European continent.

Colonization and church assignment in America
In the western United States, Young was involved in the colonization of Cache Valley, southern Utah and the extension of Mormon settlements into New Mexico and Arizona. Young was also involved at times with the Mormon colonies in Mexico.

In 1867, Young was involved with the formation of the Deseret Sunday School Union to provide centralized direction to the Sunday schools of the church.

During 1868, Young acted as his father's agent in finding workers for the Utah portion of the First transcontinental railroad.

From 1869 until 1877, Young presided over the Latter-day Saints in Cache Valley, closely assisted by William B. Preston, who was serving as the regional presiding bishop. During this time, Young co-owned a feed and livery stable in Soda Springs, Idaho, with Solomon Hale.

In 1877, Young, Erastus Snow and Wilford Woodruff dedicated parts of the St. George Temple.

From 1877 to 1880, Young and George Q. Cannon served as editors of the Deseret News.

In 1878, Young and Moses Thatcher selected the site for the Latter-day Saint settlement in the Star Valley of Wyoming. In August 1878, Young dedicated the valley as a place for the gathering of the Latter-day Saints.

In February 1883, Young went on a tour among the Navajo and Hopi peoples with many other church leaders, including Heber J. Grant.

In 1883, Young convinced the residents of Jonesville, Arizona, to rename it Lehi. It is today part of Mesa, Arizona.

Family
Young practiced plural marriage. His first wife was Catherine Curtis Spencer. Among their children was Brigham Spencer Young, who would later serve as president of the Northwestern States Mission of the church.

In 1857, Young married his second wife, Jane Carrington, a daughter of Albert Carrington.

Young's wife Abigail Stevens was one of his younger wives. Their daughter Klara Young Cheney, born in Fruitland, New Mexico, in 1894, turned 100 years old in 1994. Abigail and Brigham Jr.'s last daughter, Marian Young, was also born at Fruitland on January 25, 1899. She died on November 22, 2004, less than two months short of her 106th birthday. She was the last grandchild of Brigham Young to die.

Politics
Young served several terms in the Utah Territorial Legislature.

President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles
Young was ordained an apostle before Joseph F. Smith but was not placed in the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles until after Joseph F. Smith. It was not until 1900 that a clear decision was made which gave Smith seniority in the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles over Young, since Smith had been a member of the First Presidency since becoming an apostle. Young had served as the President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles since the previous president, Franklin D. Richards, had died on December 9, 1899.

When church president Lorenzo Snow died on October 10, 1901, Smith served as President of the Quorum until he was made church president on October 17, 1901. The death of Snow dissolved the First Presidency, returning First Counselor Joseph F. Smith to the Quorum of the Twelve as President of the Quorum. The LDS Church at that time did not draw a distinction between President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. In that time, the person who in the modern church would be called the Acting President was set apart as the President of the Quorum. The second-most senior apostle was not set apart as the President of the Quorum if they were a member of the First Presidency, which Smith was. One week later, Smith was made President of the Church and Young again became President of the Quorum. Therefore, when Smith became president, Young again assumed the position of President of the Quorum of the Twelve. Young is the only person to have served two non-consecutive terms as President of the Quorum.

Death

Young died in Salt Lake City, Utah at age 66. He was buried at Salt Lake City Cemetery.

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Albert Carrington

Albert Carrington (January 8, 1813 – September 19, 1889) was an apostle and member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and First Presidency of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church).

Early life
Carrington was born in Royalton, Vermont. He graduated from Dartmouth College in 1833 and taught school and studied law in Pennsylvania. In 1839, he married Rhoda Maria Woods. The Carringtons were baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in Wiota, Wisconsin, on July 18, 1841, and in 1844 moved to Nauvoo, Illinois, to join the gathering of Latter Day Saints. In January 1846, Carrington took Mary Rock as a plural wife. Following the death of Joseph Smith, Carrington followed Brigham Young to the Salt Lake Valley.

In Utah Territory
Carrington was the editor of the LDS Church-owned Deseret News from 1854 to 1856 and again from 1862 until 1867. He was elected multiple times to the Legislative Council in the Utah territorial legislature until 1868.

While serving as Brigham Young's secretary, in 1849 Carrington was hired by Howard Stansbury to make a survey of the Great Salt Lake. Carrington accompanied Stansbury to Washington, D.C., in 1850 to report on the expedition's efforts and returned to Utah in 1851. Carrington Island was named for him in honor of his contributions to the expedition.

Church service
Carrington became an apostle and a member of the Quorum of the Twelve on July 3, 1870. He was the president of the European Mission four times—once prior to becoming an apostle (1868–70) and three times as an apostle (1871–73, 1875–77, 1880–82). Carrington was the tenth official Church Historian of the LDS Church between 1871 and 1874. From 1873 until 1877, he was a counselor to Young in the First Presidency and served as Young's personal secretary for more than 20 years.

Excommunication and readmission
Carrington was excommunicated from the LDS Church by the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles on November 6, 1885, for adultery, fornication, and "lewd and lascivious conduct". Carrington's extramarital relationships had begun in England while he was the mission president; he had hid these relationships from the leaders of the church for over 10 years and had lied to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles about them when rumors about Carrington began spreading. (The Salt Lake Tribune first accused Carrington of adultery in 1875.) In 1885, Carrington argued before the Twelve that because he did not ejaculate inside the women he had sexual relations with, he had technically not committed adultery, but had simply committed "a little folly in Israel". The Quorum disagreed and excommunicated him.

Carrington was rebaptized on November 1, 1887. Upon his rebaptism, he was not reinstated as an apostle or as a general authority.

On his deathbed, Carrington received permission to be ordained an elder so that he could be buried in his temple robes. Wilford Woodruff, the president of the church, sent Angus M. Cannon to ordain him. Cannon arrived at 3:57 pm but Carrington had died at 3:42 pm. It was later decided that he could be buried in his temple clothing. Carrington died at Salt Lake City, Utah Territory, at age 76, and was buried at Salt Lake City Cemetery.

External resources

 * Grampa Bill's General Authority Pages

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Gia Scala

Gia Scala (born Josephine Grace Johanna Scoglio; March 3, 1934 – April 30, 1972) was a British-American actress of Italian and Irish descent.

Early life
Scala was born March 3, 1934, in Liverpool, England, to Sicilian father Pietro Scoglio, and Irish mother Eileen O'Sullivan. She had one sister, Tina Scala, also an actress.

Scala was brought up in Messina and Mili San Marco in Sicily, the latter on the estate of her grandfather, Natale Scoglio, who owned one of the largest citrus growing operations in Sicily. When Scala was 16, she moved to the United States to live with her aunt Agata in Whitestone, Queens, New York City. After graduating from Bayside High School, she moved to Manhattan to pursue acting. Scala supported herself by working at a travel agency.

While she worked during the day for airlines and an insurance agency, Scala studied acting at night, with Stella Adler among her teachers. She met Steve McQueen, whom she dated from 1952 to 1954. Scala began to appear on game shows, including Stop the Music, where she was spotted by Maurice Bergman, an executive of Universal International located in New York City.

Career
In 1954, accompanied by her mother, Scala flew to Los Angeles to screen test for the role of Mary Magdalene in The Gallileans. Although she did not get the part, Peter Johnson at Universal Studios was impressed with Scala's screen test. Scala had her first official job in Hollywood when she was given a non-speaking, uncredited part in the movie All That Heaven Allows, starring Rock Hudson. Despite her minor role in the movie, Universal Studios signed her to a contract, dyed her hair dark brown, had her four front teeth capped, and gave her the stage name Gia Scala.

Songwriter Henry Mancini met Scala on the set of Four Girls in Town. Inspired by her beauty, he wrote "Cha Cha for Gia", which appeared uncredited in the 1957 film.

Scala became emotionally distraught following the death of her mother in 1957. In 1958, she became a naturalized American citizen. Scala soon after landed roles in such films as Tip on a Dead Jockey (1957), The Garment Jungle (1957), The Tunnel of Love (1958), and The Guns of Navarone (1961), starring Gregory Peck and David Niven.

Scala made frequent appearances on American television during the 1960s, appearing in such series as Alfred Hitchcock Presents, Convoy, The Islanders, The Rogues, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Twelve O'Clock High, Tarzan, and It Takes a Thief (1969) in the episode "The Artist Is for Framing", her final acting role.

Later years
On August 21, 1959, Scala married Don Burnett, an actor turned investment banker. After 11 years of marriage they divorced on September 1, 1970, and Burnett married actress Barbara Anderson. Scala had difficulties with alcohol and her career began to wane.

In 2015, author/researcher Sterling Saint James wrote a book about Gia Scala's life titled Gia Scala: The First Gia. Tina Scala provided intimate details about her sister's life.

Death
On the night of April 30, 1972, 38-year-old Scala was found dead in her Hollywood Hills home. Los Angeles County Coroner Thomas Noguchi reported her cause of death was from accidental "acute ethanol and barbiturate intoxication".

Scala is interred in the Holy Cross Cemetery in Culver City, California.

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Cazuza: O Tempo Não Pára

Cazuza: O Tempo Não Pára (Cazuza: Time Doesn't Stop) is a 2004 Brazilian biographical musical drama film directed by Sandra Werneck and Walter Carvalho, about the life of singer Cazuza. It stars Daniel de Oliveira as Cazuza. The film is based on the 1997 biography Cazuza: Só as Mães São Felizes by Cazuza's mother, Lucinha Araújo. The film won a Best Actor Award from the São Paulo Association of Art Critics Awards. It was one of the most successful films of the year in Brazil.

Synopsis
Focusing on Cazuza's personal life, the film chronicles his early career, his subsequent success, his drug use and his promiscuous lifestyle. It starts out in the early 1980s in Rio de Janeiro, showing his usual day-to-day life until he joins the band which would become Barão Vermelho. It then shows the band's rise to fame and its frequent "mutinies" which led him to pursue a solo career. Later, it depicts his struggle against the AIDS virus and his final days.

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Moses Thatcher

Moses Thatcher (February 2, 1842 – August 22, 1909) was an apostle and a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). He was one of only a few members of the Quorum of the Twelve to be dropped from the Quorum but to remain in good standing in the church and retain the priesthood office of apostle.

Early life
Thatcher was born in Sangamon County, Illinois, to Hezekiah Thatcher and Alena Kitchen. The Thatcher family joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in 1843, and moved to Macedonia, Illinois, and later to Nauvoo. Together, with the main body of the church, they began their trek westward in 1846 and arrived in the Salt Lake Valley in September 1847.

Hezekiah and Alena, with seven of their eight living children (including Thatcher), departed for California in 1849, seeking to acquire wealth through the Gold Rush. They returned to Utah Territory in 1857. Thatcher served a mission for the church at age 15, from which he returned in 1858. In 1859, the family settled in Cache Valley, where Thatcher helped Hezekiah locate canal and mill sites.

From 1860 to 1861, Thatcher studied at the University of Deseret. From 1866 to 1868, he served a second mission, this one to the United Kingdom and France. He later served as the church's first mission president in Mexico.

Apostolic service
Thatcher became an apostle and a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in April 1879. He replaced Orson Hyde, who died on November 28, 1878.

From 1880 to 1898, Thatcher was the second assistant to Wilford Woodruff in the superintendency of the Young Men's Mutual Improvement Association (YMMIA).

At the April 1896 General Conference of the church, Thatcher was dropped from the Quorum of the Twelve in consequence of his not being "in harmony" with the other leaders of the church about a proposed policy called "The Political Rule of the Church," commonly referred to as "the political Manifesto." This policy would have required that the general authorities of the church to obtain the approval of the First Presidency before seeking public office. This statement was signed by all the apostles at the time except Thatcher, who refused on grounds of conscience, citing the church's long-standing position on political neutrality. (Apostle Anthon Lund also did not sign the document due to his absence while presiding over the church's European Mission.)

However, Thatcher was not excommunicated from the church and retained his position in the leadership of the YMMIA. Thatcher remained supportive of the church after being removed from the Quorum, testifying on many occasions of the divinity of the work and the divinity of the calling of its leaders. Matthias F. Cowley replaced Thatcher in the Quorum of the Twelve. Thatcher held the priesthood office of apostle until his death.

Post-Quorum of the Twelve service
After being removed from the quorum, Thatcher testified in the Reed Smoot hearings held before the Senate Committee on Privileges and Elections. He was supportive of the church and its positions.

Thatcher died at his home on August 22, 1909, in Logan, Utah.

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Francis M. Lyman

Francis Marion Lyman (January 12, 1840 – November 18, 1916) was a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). He was the President of the Quorum of the Twelve from 1903 until his death.

Lyman's father and son were also apostles in the church: his father was Amasa M. Lyman and his son was Richard R. Lyman. Both his father and son were excommunicated from the church while serving as apostles (although they were later re-baptized).

Early life
Francis M. Lyman was born as the first son of Amasa M. Lyman and Louisa Maria Tanner in Good Hope, Illinois. That spring, the family moved to Iowa. About one year later, they moved to Nauvoo, Illinois, to be with the main gathering of Latter Day Saints. In 1843, they moved again to Alquina, Indiana. In 1844, after the death of Joseph Smith, they moved back to Nauvoo.

Lyman's father left with the first group to travel on the Mormon Exodus to the West. His family moved to Winter Quarters in June 1846 under the care of his maternal grandfather. His family set out to the Salt Lake Valley in 1848. Though only 8 years old, Lyman helped drive a yoke of cattle and the wagon. He was baptized by his father in the Elkhorn River on July 1, 1848, and arrived in the Salt Lake Valley on October 19, 1848.

By 1851, when Lyman was 11 years old, his father and Charles C. Rich purchased land in San Bernardino, California. Lyman helped drive the animals from Salt Lake to southern California. Lyman was present at the laying of the cornerstone of the Salt Lake Temple on April 6, 1853.

Adult life and service
In 1856, at about 16 years of age, Lyman received the Melchizedek priesthood and was ordained an elder by his father. In 1857, he was called on a mission to Great Britain. He was stopped at Salt Lake City and told to turn back to bring the settlers in California to Utah. The outbreak of the Utah War had prevented his mission.

Lyman married Rhoda Ann Taylor on November 18, 1857.

In 1859, Lyman and his family settled in Farmington, Utah. He was ordained to a seventy on January 7, 1860, by John S. Gleason. He built a cabin in Beaver, Utah, for his wife and son, and he left on his delayed mission in the spring of 1860.

Mission in England
En route to New York City, Lyman stopped in Kirtland, Ohio, and was shown through the Kirtland Temple by Martin Harris. Lyman left the United States through the port of New York and arrived by steamer in Liverpool, England, on July 27, 1860.

Lyman served as a missionary for roughly two years. Upon release from his mission, he accompanied about 800 immigrants back to the United States; they arrived in New York on June 25, 1862, where he was appointed the president of the group. By early July, they had arrived in Florence, Nebraska. Lyman was reunited with his wife in Beaver, Utah, in the middle of October.

Fillmore
In March 1863, LDS Church president Brigham Young asked Lyman to settle in Fillmore, Utah. The next fourteen years of his life were spent there, where he engaged himself in leadership in church, politics, business, and manufacturing. Among his positions and honors were:
 * assistant assessor of United States internal revenue
 * lieutenant-colonel of the first regiment of militia in the Pauvan District at 25
 * member of the House of the General Assembly of the State of Deseret
 * a member of the 17th, 18th, 22nd and 23rd sessions of the Utah Territorial legislature
 * county clerk and recorder
 * superintendent of schools
 * prosecuting attorney

When a stake was formed in Fillmore, Lyman was ordained to the office of high priest. Later he was called to be a member of the stake high council.

On October 4, 1869, Lyman married his first plural wife, Clara Caroline Callister. Her grandfather was John Smith, Joseph Smith's uncle. Lyman and Callister's son Richard R. Lyman would serve as an apostle from 1918 to 1943.

Lyman was called on a second mission to England and left Salt Lake City on October 20, 1873, arriving in Liverpool on November 12. During this mission, he also visited and proselytized in Wales, Scotland, Denmark, Germany, Switzerland, and France. He returned to Utah with 300 immigrating Latter-day Saints in October 1875.

Tooele County
In April 1877, Lyman was called to preside over the Tooele Stake, which was organized June 24, 1877, in Tooele County, Utah. He involved himself in the politics of that county as well. By August 1878, Lyman was elected county recorder and representative to the territorial legislature.

Since 1874, Tooele County had been led by politicians of the Liberal Party and was nicknamed the Tooele Republic. In 1878, the legislature passed a resolution providing for the registration of voters. After allegations of corruption and excessive spending by the Liberal Party, which left the county in debt, the People's Party won the election of 1878. However, Liberal Party officials refused to count the votes and declared themselves the winners of the election. Lyman was key in challenging the election results. After the case was heard by the courts, the People's Party was declared the winner on March 29, 1879. As a result of his victory in this instance, Lyman had earned a reputation for fighting government corruption.

Apostleship
At the October General Conference held on October 10, 1880, Lyman and John Henry Smith were sustained as members of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. Because he was absent from the conference on a mission to survey parts of southern Utah, Nevada, and Arizona, Lyman was ordained an apostle on October 27 by church president John Taylor.

Lyman visited nearly every town in the West with members of the church during his apostleship. He also maintained a detailed daily record of his business as an apostle.

In early 1883, Lyman served a mission to the Native American people of the Uintah and Ouray Reservation in Utah. With his company of men, Lyman set out and preached vigorously. The government agents were receptive and allowed them to preach freely. Members of the Utes had joined them, and they were most effective in preaching to their fellow natives. Many Native Americans received the Book of Mormon and their preaching and were baptized. Lyman returned to Provo, Utah, on May 28, 1883.

Lyman was called to minister over the European Mission in 1901. He set about several key reforms and expanded the number of mission homes throughout Europe. In 1903, Lyman and Joseph J. Cannon visited and preached in Finland and Russia.

In spring 1902, Lyman visited Palestine and offered up a solemn prayer on the Mount of Olives. In 1903, Brigham Young, Jr. died, making Lyman the President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. He returned to Utah in 1904. Soon after returning home, he went to Washington, D.C., to testify in the Reed Smoot hearings before the Senate Committee on Privileges and Elections.

Lyman died in his home of pneumonia on November 18, 1916. Stephen L Richards was called to replace him in the Quorum of the Twelve after his death. Heber J. Grant replaced him as President of the Quorum of the Twelve.

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Talk:Deniliquin

why make this a redirect to Deniliquin, New South Wales? There is only one Deniliquin! XmarkX 04:06, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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I would like to see a section on media from Deni.. i understand that they have a full set of radio stations and local newspapers??
 * Be bold and add one yourself. Hay, New South Wales provides a bit of a template for you if you need something to get started.  Cheers, Mattinbgn/talk 21:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Deniliquin. WP is WP:NOT - consensus is determined by evaluating the strength of the arguments. Both of the arguments made by the nom and Kotniski are compelling, none of the three arguments in opposition are compelling at all. Born2cycle (talk) 23:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Requested move
Deniliquin, New South Wales → — Deniliquin is a unique name and does not require disambiguation. As such, in line with the Wikipedia policy on article titles, this article should be at its common name which is simply "Deniliquin". This name also has the advantages of being more concise without being less precise. Mattinbgn (talk) 23:40, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Note that Naming conventions (geographic names) refers to the practice of mandatorily disambiguating Australian place names, but this no longer has a wide consensus. see Australian Wikipedians' notice board. A recent discussion at Talk:Coffs Harbour is a further demonstration of the change in community opinion.

 * Oppose on the grounds cited in the second paragraph. To be exact, look at Category:Towns in New South Wales. All of them are X, NSW; most of them have to be, because they are ambiguous with other towns in Australia or elsewhere in the English-speaking world. To follow this line of reasoning would produce a patchwork, and a mystery for the reader to figure out: why Deniliquin is different from Millwood, New South Wales. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 04:24, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Where to start ... Your first point is wrong, although I note that you moved Burrandana to try and make it right, bit sneaky don't you think?. To refute your claim, see Coffs Harbour, Wagga Wagga, Uranquinty etc. etc. (A full list is at User:Mattinbgn/Undisambiguated Australian places) Your second point is wrong as well. Just looking at the first 5 names in the category: - Aberdeen, Abermain, Adaminaby, Adelong and Adjungbilly - 4 are unique. A small sample size, yes but an informal look down the list still sees around 75% of town names as unique. When you make a claim such as "most of them have to be", you should actually take a look and not just make it up! Even if your point was correct, it would be irrelevant, unless you want to change WP:AT. Throughout the encyclopedia, some names are disambiguated where needed and others are not and we manage to cope quite well. I would argue it is much more of a mystery for readers to wonder why the article for "Deniliquin" is at "Deniliquin, New South Wales" and unlike you I actually have some evidence for for my claim - see the comment at the top of this talk page from XmarkX! -- Mattinbgn (talk) 05:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Fine, read "many of them have to be"; what you propose is still a patchwork. If there is consensus for this patchwork, fine; but it should be consensus in light of the arguments on both sides. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:41, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Is "solivitur arguendo" Latin for "I made an exaggerated claim on behalf of my argument and now I want to claim that calling me on it is nit-picking"? Why is a "patchwork" a problem here and not in the rest of the encyclopedia? In many classes of articles, there are some articles that will need disambiguation and some that don't. What do you suggest is your "magic number" when the percentage of articles needing disambiguation in any class becomes a "patchwork" and mandatory disambiguation is required? 25%? 10%? 5%? ... Perhaps you should be seeking to change WP:AT to apply the "patchwork" principle. But, to focus back on topic of this discussion, Deniliquin is a unique name, it does not require disambiguation and in line with WP:AT it should be at its common name - which is not "Deniliquin, New South Wales". Talk of "patchwork" is a smokescreen. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 20:54, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No, solivitur is a typo; should be solvitur. As for the rest of this declamation, see WP:AT; the "commonness" of a name is only one criterion of a desirable article title, and not even a primary one. Deniliquin is shorter, but less convenient in several ways; it is for consensus of editors to decide on the balance. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:05, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * We have now moved from "patchwork" to "convenience" and again without any support from policy or even objective evidence of benefit. Pray tell, how is the name "Deniliquin" less "convenient" and where in WP:AT is "convenience" mentioned as a primary criteria? I see and conciseness and naturalness, both of which lead to preferring "Deniliquin". "Deniliquin" is just as recognisable and precise as the current name and this move would make the article name consistent with the wider naming protocol for places world wide. For all the talk about "consensus", you have not yet been able to show that the precise and accurate name of the town, Deniliquin is in any way likely to be ambiguous and therefore require disambiguation. From WP:AT "Most articles will have a simple and obvious title that is better than any other in terms of most or all of these ideal criteria. If so, use it, as a straightforward choice". That is quite clearly the case with this article.  -- Mattinbgn (talk) 04:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Oppose because the current "long" page name is unambiguous given the place names convention here, but the bare word "Deniliquin" is ambiguous. You could drop bits of these other page names and get the same result:  Deniliquin Council, Deniliquin Football Club, Deniliquin Airport etc.  69.3.72.9 (talk) 02:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment All of the examples you have given are derivative from the PRIME name of the town in which they all can be found, Deniliquin. If your argument was to be accepted then every place name, everywhere, would need disambiguation as all of them would have utilities, sports teams, etc with derivative names. We don't consider the name Melbourne to be ambiguous merely because of the existence of Melbourne Football Club and to continue down that path across the encyclopedia would clearly be absurd. And besides, how does the suffix, ", New South Wales" come to mean "town" instead of airport, football club etc. anyway? -- Mattinbgn (talk) 04:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Oppose. Premature at least. We need to first sort out the stalled discussion relating to Naming conventions (geographic names) (does anyone know where exactly in the talk page archives it ended up?). Andrewa (talk) 03:35, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It started again at Australian Wikipedians' notice board (There was an invite placed on WP:NC to join in the discussion at WP:AWNB. The discussion at AWNB was as clear as a 50/50 split as I can imagine. Given that there is no consensus to retain the existing idiosyncratic naming protocol, I am not sure why the default WP:AT should not apply, i.e. WP:COMMONNAME. Note that Coffs Harbour was moved after the straw poll at AWNB, see Talk:Coffs Harbour. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 07:39, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Thanks for the wikilink. Suggest that more such be placed to make it clear what stage the discussion has reached. But disagree that the lack of consensus should, in effect, be taken to support the change. The convention has been that where they are in conflict, the more detailed conventions override the basic policies in the particular areas to which the detailed conventions apply. And otherwise there would be no point in having them! The existing idiosyncratic naming protocol is still in effect until we get a rough consensus for change. If we have that this needs to be communicated; If we don't, then your opinion that something is idiosyncratic isn't terribly helpful, and IMO it's mistaken as well. No change of vote. Andrewa (talk) 23:56, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I am afraid I don't follow this comment at all. Firstly what do you mean by "Suggest that more such be placed to make it clear what stage the discussion has reached." More what?. Secondly this point seems muddled and quite frankly backward: "The convention has been that where they are in conflict, the more detailed conventions override the basic policies in the particular areas to which the detailed conventions apply." The more detailed convention no longer has even a rough consensus. If the situation was reversed and the request was to move away from the standard WP:AT policy, this level of support for mandatory disambuiguation would not be sufficient to show a rough consensus to allow overruling a overarching guideline. Why is it sufficient now? To summarise, we know WP:AT enjoys widespread support but we also know that the Australian convention no longer enjoys widespread support (50% at the very most). I cannot fathom why the protocol that does not enjoy wide support overrules the protocol that does enjoy wide support. Perhaps you could explain? Lastly I am not sure what your objection to the term "idiosyncratic" is? It is a neutral term and is not meant to be a value judgement. Australia is one of 2 (perhaps 3) nations where mandatory disambiguation of settlement names is applied. That appears pretty idiosyncratic (i.e. peculiar to one class of articles) to me. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 07:36, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * More wikilinks. Make it easy for others to find the relevant discussion. Yes, our consensus policy leads to some strange short term results, but it's the best we have. It's a lot easier to find problems with it than to find a better way, and it works sort of. But we don't generally use figures like 50%, that's against the whole spirit of the policy. I still think that the argument in favour of the move is that we should take action because no consensus exists, and that this would be contrary to policy. Rather, we should build consensus. This can be frustrating, but the instability which is the alternative is even more frustrating. If on the other hand a rough consensus already exists to change the guideline (idiosyncratic or not, that's irrelevant) then please provide wikilinks to support this. Andrewa (talk) 08:28, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Support, I don't see anything that could possibly be confused with Deniliquin (it doesn't even have a disambiguation page). The convention that says these places have to have the name of the state added has been shown not to enjoy consensus (or even majority) support.--Kotniski (talk) 12:37, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
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Possible location of major asteroid impact
Deniliquin is the possible location of what may be the Earth's largest known impact crater:

<<<In recent research published by myself and my colleague Tony Yeates in the journal Tectonophysics, we investigate what we believe – based on many years of experience in asteroid impact research – is the world’s largest known impact structure, buried deep in the earth in southern New South Wales. The Deniliquin structure, yet to be further tested by drilling, spans up to 520 kilometres in diameter. This exceeds the size of the near-300km-wide Vredefort impact structure in South Africa, which to date has been considered the world’s largest.>>>

https://theconversation.com/new-evidence-suggests-the-worlds-largest-known-asteroid-impact-structure-is-buried-deep-in-southeast-australia-209593 Frunobulax (talk) 19:34, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

 * Intriguing stuff. But an annoying article, with the first two illustrations seeming to go out of their way to avoid showing Deniliquin at all. I would love to see a better map. My first thought was that this might be a little too uncertain to include in this article right now, but there is a section in the referenced article that seems quite certain about something special existing in the Deniliquin area. It's about two thirds of the way through, and begins with the sentence "The Deniliquin structure has all the features that would be expected from a large-scale impact structure." Maybe some words based on that text can be added here. HiLo48 (talk) 01:01, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

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Millennium Institute (Hungarian think tank)

The Millennium Institute (Millennium Intézet) is a Hungarian think tank.

It is known for its series of lectures, Várostudás Kollégiuma (College for the Knowledge on the City), which is about urban planning and development.


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John Henry Smith

John Henry Smith (September 18, 1848 – October 13, 1911) was a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and the First Presidency of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). He was a prominent politician in Utah and played an important role in the transition from Utah as a territory to a state of the United States.

LDS Church service
From 1867 until 1869 Smith served as a counselor in the bishopric of the Provo 4th Ward, which at that time covered all Provo north of Center Street and east of 1st East.

In 1874 and 1875, Smith served as a missionary in Europe. He spent most of this mission in England, particularly in and around the city of Birmingham.

From 1875 to 1880, Smith was the bishop of the Salt Lake 17th Ward.

In October 1880, LDS Church president John Taylor called Smith to be a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. On October 27 of that year, he was ordained an apostle by Wilford Woodruff, who at that time was the quorum president. Smith served in that capacity until the death of First Presidency member John R. Winder in 1910; he was then asked by church president Joseph F. Smith to take Winder's place as a member of the First Presidency. John Henry Smith served in this capacity until his death the next year.

Political contributions
Smith was a prominent Republican in Utah politics. In 1882, he was elected a member of the Utah Territorial Legislature. Smith was unanimously elected by the 107 delegates to be the Chair of the Utah Constitutional Convention that was held between March 4 and May 8, 1895. The result of the convention was a draft Constitution for the proposed State of Utah, which was accepted by the United States Congress in 1896 when Utah officially became a state of the United States.

Marriage and family
Born in Carbunca, Iowa, Smith was the son of Sarah Ann Libby and LDS Church apostle and First Presidency member, George A. Smith. He came west to Utah in a company co-led by his father in 1849, arriving in Salt Lake City on October 27, 1849. His mother died in 1851.

Smith practiced plural marriage and was the father of 19 children. One of his sons was George Albert Smith, who became an LDS apostle and served as the church's 8th president. Smith and George Albert Smith are the only father and son pair to have been members of the Quorum of the Twelve at the same time, serving together from 1903 to 1910. Smith was also the father of Nicholas G. Smith.

Smith's first wife, Sarah Farr, was the daughter of Lorin Farr, who was mayor of Ogden, Utah. Smith's second wife, Josephine Groesbeck, spent 1888 until 1896 in exile in Manassa, Colorado, to avoid being called as a witness in a criminal unlawful cohabitation trial against Smith.

Death
Smith died of a pulmonary hemorrhage in Salt Lake City and was buried at Salt Lake City Cemetery.

title: John Henry Smith