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Category:Ballets Russes and descendants
This is what we've come up with (that's not the royal "we"; it's been a collaborative effort.) Robert Greer (talk)

 * P.S. I trust you're aware of Wikipedia's automatically generated Category:WikiProject Ballet articles.

 * Anything with an old or your new and improved  tag shows up here.)

 * Robert Greer (talk) 20:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Dance and health
Glad to see that you consider dance and health important! I've put in headings and added a small bit to the article - would you consider it start class now? Dmcq (talk) 11:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Maralinga, South Australia
Thanks for your very prompt support for my edits. I could not believe how the whole mess had been whitewashed! I worked for many years in Central Australia and have had the privilege of hearing first-hand many horrific stories from survivors of the Maralinga tests - both Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal, and this rewrite of history really angered me. All best wishes. John Hill (talk) 02:33, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Indigenous people of Australia
No problems. Let me know if there's anything else required. Cheers. -- Longhair\talk 09:19, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Psychological conditions
I have nominated psychological conditions for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Mattisse (Talk) 23:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

communities peoples
''The move of Australian Aboriginal tribes to Indigenous Australian communities creates an issue for Category:Indigenous Australian communities. That category, following the ABS uses communities in terms of towns, outstations, etc. such as Mutitjulu, Mimili, Wadeye. See also the discussion on the talk page -- Paul foord (talk) 06:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)''
 * I'm not sure I see a problem, I'll try to explain my thinking and you can let me know what I'm missing. The term 'community' is appropriate, I expect that different org.s and govt. bodies - other than ABS - use it different ways. Any person would belong to several communities, even by the stricter definitions of the aforementioned. One 'belongs' to these communities (is included within), but reside in only one town or place. Community does not equal locality, it it would embrace these groups more accurately. I could produce a more coherent definition, I suppose we should look into the various 'official' ones. cygnis insignis 07:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * An alternative would be to rename it as Indigenous peoples of Australia (as in Category:Indigenous peoples of Australia to match that category, avoiding the ambiguity re locations. Paul foord (talk) 07:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I considered 'peoples' as a substitute and I use it in articles, but there is little difference between that and the 'main' article, Indigenous Australians, a designation that is very general and not very useful. (Perhaps we should move the article?) Self identification is a way of determining a community's members, and I think that is the most frequently used term. cygnis insignis 08:45, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Working through the articles for the WikiProject Indigenous peoples of Australia articles it seems that Indigenous peoples of Australia probably would be the best article title. Paul foord (talk) 12:45, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Which article!? ;-) I'm still undecided on the issue, if some documention turns up to consolidate the nomenclature, I'll let you and the project know. I went with my own reasons and sources, but the instinct derived from your great labor overrules this. I willing to bet you have a lot of ideas for improvements after all that work on the current articles. If you want to start by moving this article again, its okay with me. Cheers, cygnis insignis 13:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, article I will move is Indigenous Australian communities. Paul foord (talk) 13:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

In the future, please bring stub categories that you wish to change the name of to Stub types for deletion, rather than attempting to do so out of process. Had you done that, you would have discovered that the existing follows the naming guidelines for stub categories and was not in need of having an extra "s" added. I presume you were trying to fix the redlink on WikiProject Deletion sorting/Organizations, but that was fixable by providing a parameter to the topic template. Caerwine Caer’s whines 02:17, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I was trying to fix it, I am not familiar with the intricacies of wiki coding. Paul foord (talk) 03:21, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Indigenous

 * Thanks Paul foord (talk) 04:30, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Wangle people => Wangal people
Yeah SatuSuro for awarding the barnstar above! It is certainly well deserved!!

Regarding the Indigneous Australian's WikiProject's 'open task' note you posted .. plus the associated 'prod' regarding Wangle people ..

.. it seems to have been a legit. article (if very very minimal) slightly mispelt ... I have now moved to Wangal people, slightly upgraded the original .. and removed your prod..

Not sure if you wish to remove note from the Wikiproject page?! Bruceanthro (talk) 16:28, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Have done so, thanks. Paul foord (talk) 00:50, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Ratings
Thanks, actually I thought I might have been going to far.--Grahame (talk) 01:23, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Arrernte
Hi, I saw you added some unsourced information in the Australian Indigenous people related article Arrernte. Pease see Citing sources, Reliable sources and verifiability. If you want to add more information in the article, that's fine, but please follow WP:V. Thanks.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 09:50, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I am puzzled by your deletion of material within minutes of its creation. Have you looked at my contributions before deciding to delete most of the material at Arrernte.
 * If you are working on the article, then use an "underconstruction" template so that other users can understand that the article is under major rework.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 10:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Same happened to me on Utrecht (city), incremental expansion of a section is hardly major revamping of an article, but if allowing that tag up buys me the time to get the refs in place, so be it... Arnoutf (talk) 11:08, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, as some sections are under major rework in the article Utrecht (city), hence the "underconstruction" template should be used in that sections.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 11:13, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Mix of names
I know of the talk at the project page - but the mix of the problem of the language group, the 'people' arts and even further again divisions - it looks as though one of the arrente arts should end up as a half disambig/half link to the subsidiary arts if they are likely to be expanded ever - otherwise perhaps a big mere of the lot in th eone art perhaps? anyways just an idea - cheers SatuSuro 10:59, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Three article probably, ppl/lang/ccl, although it appears the groups are trying to separately identify themselves. Paul foord (talk) 11:08, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Must drop off an email sometime about how this makes our tasks even worse in some parts of the country than others - btw have you seen the new book on daisy bates? the article on wiki hasnt a single inline cite and smells of a lift from it :| SatuSuro 11:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Substantial parts of Daisy Bates (Australia) have not changed since I last edited it on 16 November 2006.

 * There are lots of microstubs for named peoples, they should probably be deleted rather than moved and create new articles from the lists. Paul foord (talk) 11:18, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

 * gawd my sincerest apologies i hadnt looked at the edit history (humbarrassed) - its uncanny de vries work (only out the lat month or so) touches on considerabley similar stuff with the art - oh well back in my hole over there by the nullabor dingo (shuffle shuffle...) SatuSuro 11:41, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Easy enough conclusion, maybe the influence went the other way! Unfortunately jumping to conclusions is not good exercise - for that i do aerobics, dance or yoga. Paul foord (talk) 12:00, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Heheh - must re-read art and book for all that :( - i have an underexercised jack russell terrier when the real stuff starts SatuSuro 12:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Why?
Is there any specific reason you are reverting my edits? 124.171.30.172 (talk) 13:25, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Responded at User talk:124.171.30.172 Paul foord (talk) 13:38, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Template change
IMHO the Indig OZ template needs a separate section for state histories - and the tas and west oz starts as they are need to go in (other states and territories as red links for incentives?)- the random non alpha aspect of the current history part of the template is a bit misleading - what do you think - alpha order? SatuSuro 08:21, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Template:Indigenous Australians is very dense/unfriendly at present. Not having an article on 'Australian Aborigines' (not preferred by many) or 'Indigenous peoples of mainland Australia' (clumsy but maybe better) doesn't help - the old peoples/people confusion is evident on the template also - the first group should be | mainland peoples | Tasmanian Aborigines | Torres Strait Islanders (| maybe Tiwi people). Agree something needs to be done. Maybe need to move further discussion to the WP talk page. Paul foord (talk) 09:55, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

OK - will do later - cheers SatuSuro

UWAP QP MUP etc
The stubs are inadequate and there have been more (presses that is) - somewhere down the line at thread 459,812,736 (heheh) will do something maybe :| SatuSuro 06:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Eskaravelho
I have nominated Eskaravelho, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Eskaravelho. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. B. Wolterding (talk) 19:27, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Opera project category changes
Hi. I see you are changing the project categories connected to opera but I am unable to understand why. Can you possibly explain what you have been doing? Thanks. --Kleinzach (talk) 13:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

 * As noted here there is no WikiProject Performing arts, The other change included WP Opera in WP Theatre. It is useful being able to see such relationships in the WP cats. Paul foord (talk) 13:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Right, now I understand the Performing Arts Project is defunct, but what does  "The other change included WP Opera in WP Theatre"  mean? Opera is not part of 'theatre' in any WP structures and with good reason - it's one of the performing arts, even if a WP Performing Arts Project no longer exists. Also Richard Wagner and Gilbert and Sullivan are descendant projects of Opera. --Kleinzach (talk) 14:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

 * There never was a WP PA as far as I can see - re the other thing, apologies if I got it wrong, from the outside it seems Opera, Musical theatre & G&S would logically come under music & theatre. Paul foord (talk) 14:10, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

 * OK, I think I am beginning to understand. It seems we all assumed the existence of WP PA. It's fine to list Opera with both Music and Theatre but I've also restored it at the Arts level with the other performing arts. I think that's OK now. I am not sure how Musical theatre fits into the structure - maybe under Theatre - but I'm not involved in that project. Thanks. --Kleinzach (talk) 14:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

class=redirect and class=Dab etc.
Thank you! Robert Greer (talk) 13:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Might you have a look at this?
I've posted a topic here [] and was wondering what you thought?Smatprt (talk) 03:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Child life specialist page
Paul, I noticed your work on the Child development page and I value your insight! I'm a relatively new user, and I just created a Child life specialist page. I'm wondering if you would check it out and possible give me a bit of feedback on the page? Thanks for your help! Carleyj (talk) 01:16, 29 April 2008 (UTC)carleyj

Ballet portal
Thank you for the contributions to the ballet portal; so far it's just you and me and hasn't been announced. Do you know any other Wiki. balletomanes who'd be good editors? — Robert Greer 18:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

nested=yes
P.S. We must have a browser update because nested=yes is finally doing what it's supposed to! — Robert Greer (talk) 22:13, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Invention in the Arts
Hi, Please take a look at the section: Invention in the Arts on the Invention page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention. I hope you can contribute some information. Thanks! --Sara USA (talk) 21:44, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Category:Ballet Russe de Monte Carlo vs. Category: Ballets Russes and descendants
I moved the few entries in Category:Ballet Russe de Monte Carlo into the more general Category: Ballets Russes and descendants, of which the former is a sub-category (I moved two categories, Category:Ballet Russe de Monte Carlo dancers and Category:Ballet Russe de Monte Carlo choreographers, and two pages, Wassily de Basil and René Blum, to be exact; almost everybody who was in one of the three companies was in at least one of the other two.) Do you object to my asking for deletion of Category:Ballet Russe de Monte Carlo as it is now empty? We are the only two people who've ever so much as touched it. — Robert Greer (talk) 23:16, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Revision history of Historical revisionism
Work with me please. --Ludvikus (talk) 14:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ondine
May I alert you to a discussion on merging Ondine (Sir Frederick Ashton ballet) into Ondine (Henze)! — Robert Greer (talk) 18:41, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Thank you! — Robert Greer (talk) 18:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Ashton / Henze / Ondine / Undine
I regret to inform you that the party who wanted to merge Ondine (Ashton) into Undine (Henze) has been unable to accept Wiki. administrator DGG's determination that the two articles should remain seperate. Your comments on Talk:Ondine (Ashton) would be welcome! — Robert Greer (talk) 16:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of early emo groups
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Office of the Registrar of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Corporations
why is it in the cat Category:Federal law enforcement agencies of Australia? ninety:one 19:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * My bad, i guess because of the powers it enjoys similar to ASIC.ninety:one

Updating WikiProject Dance
Hi there! Of course I'd be delighted to help you with - it looks like a fairly standard banner. I would like to know before I try anything, however: how many of the banner's parameters does WikiProject Dance actually use? small, nested, class, importance are all obviously vital, but you also have functionality for attention, portal, needs-image, orphan, dykdate, peer-review and old-peer-review, as well as Ballet. How many of these features are actually used by the project? Any that are unused should be removed to reduce load time and improve the durability of the template. Many thanks, Happy‑melon 18:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

 * I use Balletyes together with nestedyes extensively to avoid having to put two seperate templates, WikiProject Dance and WikiProject Ballet. Doing so saves screen space and produces a banner giving both WikiProjects' names. — Robert Greer (talk) 19:44, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

 * That's good to know; what I was actually asking is, for how many of these features does the relevant infrastructure actually exist? For instance, the banner has code for yes, but does WikiProject Dance actually have a peer review department? Does anyone ever patrol the category associated with needs-image? The text snipppet which is displayed with orphan ("This article is not assigned to a WikiProject or workgroup") makes no sense to me whatsoever, and not being familiar with WikiProject Dance, I don't know if you have any articles where the dykdate would be appropriate and useful. These are the details I really need to be able to clean up the banner. Happy‑melon 21:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Student Christian Movement of Canada
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agreed
I'm glad anybody has taken it upon themself to help! — Robert Greer (talk) 12:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

National Museum of Dance
PS I got to the National Museum of Dance in Saratoga Springs; it's a lovely building with two wings. One has the Dance Hall of Fame, the other temporary exhibitions, but there is — alas — no permanent collection. — Robert Greer (talk) 02:11, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of Brazilian punk and hardcore groups
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Happy New Year!
Hope all is well? Another exciting year in Adelaide no doubt?  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) 04:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

No content in Category:WikiProject Ballet categories
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Category:Open Dance peer reviews
I notice that this category you created is unpopulated (empty). In other words, no Wikipedia pages belong to it. If it remains unpopulated for four days, it may be deleted, without discussion, in accordance with Criteria for speedy deletion. I'm notifying you in case you wish to (re-)populate it by adding to articles/categories that belong in it.

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 * I'm sure it's an administrative category, not part of the encyclopedia. Unless it gets regular use, C1 still applies, so I'll tag it for deletion after the waiting period has elapsed. --Stepheng3 (talk) 00:19, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Evergreen Terrace (band)
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Evergreen Terrace (band)
You speeedied Evergreen Terrace (band), before I got a chance to look at it. Anyway there is a category with Maybe they should have been merged into the article or also should be speedied. The band would appear to meet Notability (music) #5.
 * At Our Worst
 * Burned Alive by Time
 * Losing All Hope Is Freedom
 * Sincerity Is an Easy Disguise in This Business
 * Wolfbiker
 * Writer's Block (Evergreen Terrace album)
 * plus others

Labels include Indianola Records, Indianola Record, Eulogy Recordings and Metal Blade Records.

I am not interested in working on this further. Paul foord (talk) 11:17, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

 * Unless I was grossly mistaken (I occasionally am, but I usually catch my errors quickly), Evergreen Terrace (band) would have been so scanty on verifiable assertions of notability that it didn't even seem worthwhile to give the article a trial by fire at WP:AFD (for comparison, the articles I did feel needed to be vetted by AFD rather than summarily deleted yesterday included Articles for deletion/Sydney the Bowl Cut Sloth)., who carried out the actual deletion, seems to have agreed with me.  Those peripheral album articles, however, have the kind of citations that could have easily established the notability of the subject of the band's main article.  I'll propose the article for a deletion review if you'd be willing to bring the article up to the minimal WP:V and WP:N (actually WP:BAND in this case) standards once it's been undeleted.  What do you say?  --Dynaflow   babble  11:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Dances and styles
Hello - how do you see the relationship between Category:Dances and Category:Dance styles ? I am trying to sort out "dance-oriented music genres" and I notice that articles are being classed haphazardly under either or both, particularly where post-disco and electronic styles are concerned. I am happy to do donkeywork but do not want to start unilaterally recategorising dance per se. I left another note at the dance portal. Please contact me on my talk and let me know where you would like to discuss. Thx. Redheylin (talk) 22:13, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Link title== Category:WikiProject Circus categories == I notice that this category you created is unpopulated (empty). In other words, no Wikipedia pages belong to it. If it remains unpopulated for four days, it may be deleted without discussion, in accordance with Criteria for speedy deletion. I'm notifying you in case you wish to (re-)populate it by adding to pages that belong in it.

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Theatrical Page
Hello Paul. I am very sorry if this is not the correct way to contact you. I am just writing to say that your suggestion for a page on Australian or South Australian theatre is an excellent one. I would suggest a page that lists the really strong professional companies that deserve recognition. I am thinking most of all of the State Theatre Company of South Australia, Brink Productions, Australian Dance Theatre, Restless Dance, Windmill Performing Arts and The Border Project. You could also mention the Adelaide Festival Centre as our premiere venue and such arts organizations as Arts SA, South Australian Youth Arts Board (SAYAB) and Carclew Youth Arts. Also our premiere drama schools for professional training such as the Flinders University Drama Centre and AC Arts. If you were to expand it to include Australia as a whole, then you have major companies such as Griffin Theatre and Australian Theatre for Young People (ATYP) in Sydney and the Malthouse in Melbourne, and training institutions such as National Institute of Dramatic Art (NIDA) and Victoria College of the Arts (VCA). There's so much truly vibrant, exciting, innovative theatre in Australia and some really hardworking, professional companies that welcome new talent that it's a real shame to miss them out and concentrate on amateur theatre, which is at the opposite end of the spectrum both in terms of notability and quality. I noticed on the deletion discussion page, there was this comment: 'There seems to be a movement to delete the page about the Adelaide Repertory Theatre. This seems unjust to to the long history that this company has had in Australian Theatre. This company has been a breeding ground for major professional actors and technicians.' That just isn't true. The professional actors and technicians are part of a really strong, professional movement that involves the organizations listed above, and many more, and this where you want students and researchers to concentrate their efforts. Amateur theatre, particularly in South Australia, has a history of actively dismissing the professionals or lying to blur the distinction between amateurism and professionalism. This is why you're getting strangers to wikipedia commenting so passionately on this article. It's part of a very unfair trend of amateurs denying the skill and dedication of professionals, to promote themselves. So the comments may seem agreesive, but there is a long history of frustration. As you say, the context is important. You're exactly right when you say the best way to deliver this point is to create a situation where it is all in the correct context. If you were to create such a page, it would quickly develop. Wow, I am sorry this is so long. Perhaps, if you create the page in the appropriate format with some internal and external links, and some dead links to be filled in, then students and practitioners of professional drama can edit and build it out. I would list both Professional Theatre Companies and Professional Training Institutions. You may have to create a seperate section for Amateur Theatre Companies, but as long as the distinction and context are clear, that should please everybody. Superb idea!(123.2.53.91 (talk) 23:29, 19 April 2009 (UTC))

 * Also, Leigh Warren & Dancers is an example of a superb professional company so you know exactly what we're talking about! (123.2.53.91 (talk) 23:33, 19 April 2009 (UTC))

 * Just been shown the existing page on Theatre of Australia and tried to add some links to AusStage, the performing arts database (a really useful resource for researchers) and added a few companies. I also moved professional companies to the top of the list, where they belong. I expect there will be some argument from the amateurs about that, but surely it makes much more sense than having amateurs, and specifically Adelaide Repertory Theatre, top of the page (as a sidenote, Stepehen Dean also attempted to create a page on himself for wikipedia, doesn't this tell you something?) I'd still suggest links to each state listing - in alphabetical order - Professional Companies, Professional Training/Teaching Institutions, Professional Venues through to Amateur Companies and Amateur Venues. This isn't elitism (and I sincerely hope it doesn't come across that way) or censorship. It is about providing the accurate, unbiased truth so that researchers can use wikipedia as a correct and helpful resource, and young people interested in the arts can access clear career pathways and undoctored information. Because wikipedia is such a strong, prominent website it is important that it is as accurate as possible. I do not agree with Stephen Dean when he says wikipedia's value is "yet to be proven" and I think many of his comments are subtle distortions of fact in order to promote the organization on which he is a board member. Anyhow, that's all from me. I'm signing off this website for the time being and wish you the best of luck in your Australian edits. Best wishes. (123.2.53.91 (talk) 01:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC))

 * I think you will find that all theatre companies amateur or professional have something to offer to the theatre going public and therefore they are all worthy of inclusion in wikipedia. Wikipedia needs to be an open and full knowledge of all things. The only concern is how easy it is to edit. So someone with bias can alter it and people will get the wrong info. As long as the information is verifiable it should be included. Cheers S.D. p.s. This is what I mean I can edit without being logged in. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.230.100 (talk) 12:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I am not doing a lot on Wikipedia at present, mostly keeping an eye on a too long watchlist and tidying stuff as it comes to my notice. Paul foord (talk) 13:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Article Assessment
Hi there. This probably sounds like a stupid question as I've been on Wikipedia for quite some time and should really know that answer, but how do I request a wikiproject article assessment? I did a major revamp of the article on the Royal Ballet months ago and am continually tweaking and adding to it, but still nobody has got round to assessing it. Crazy-dancing (talk) 21:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Ondine
Important! - Round up what few ballet enthusiasts you know on Wikipedia and get them to vote on the proposed merging of the Ondine articles that would see the article about Frederick Ashton's production of the actual ballet, being merged into one about the music.

See here: - Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Classical_music

And please vote to oppose this change, as this music would not have been written had it not been for Ashton's ballet!!!

Thank You

Crazy-dancing (talk) 20:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Polite Notice - Possible solution to Ondine merging
I am creating this notice to invite all interested parties to vote on the proposal to merge Undine (ballet) and Ondine (Ashton) to a new article at Ondine (ballet). You can read the discussion and add your vote to the poll at:

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Look forward to seeing you there to help resolve this situation, thanks! Crazy-dancing (talk) 11:27, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

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User talk:Libr

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Tommy Smith (ice hockey)

Thomas Joseph Smith (September 27, 1886 – August 1, 1966) was a Canadian professional ice hockey forward, who played from 1905 until 1920 for 16 teams in his career. He was a member of two Stanley Cup-winning teams, the Ottawa Silver Seven of 1906 and the Quebec Bulldogs of 1913. His two older brothers Alf and Harry Smith also played professional ice hockey.

Playing career
Smith was born in Ottawa, Ontario, to Mr. and Mrs. Henry Smith, one of seven brothers who would play senior ice hockey. Smith began playing senior hockey as an amateur with the Ottawa Emmetts from 1903 until 1905. He joined the Ottawa Victorias of the Federal Amateur Hockey League (FAHL) in 1905-06 and also played for the Stanley Cup champion Ottawa Hockey Club, aka the "Silver Seven" that same year, playing with his older brothers Alf and Harry.

He moved to Pittsburgh to become a professional with the Pittsburgh Professionals in 1906, playing three seasons with the team before returning to Canada to join the Brantford Indians of the Ontario Professional Hockey League (OPHL). Smith played two seasons with Brantford but missed much of the 1909–10 season with typhoid fever. In 1910-11 he became a member of the Galt Professionals of the OPHL helping Galt win the OPHL championship. Along with most of the Galt team, he bolted to the Moncton Victorias the following season, helping Moncton win the Maritime championship. The Galt and Moncton teams Smith was a member of played consecutive Stanley Cup challenges, Galt against Ottawa in 1911 and Moncton against Quebec in 1912, both times unsuccessfully. Smith joined the Quebec Bulldogs for the 1912–13 season, where he won the Stanley Cup at the end of the season. After the 1913–14 season in Quebec, he was traded (twice) to Toronto Shamrocks. This caused a dispute with the Pacific Coast Hockey Association. At that time, the NHA and PCHA had an agreement whereby the PCHA teams could draft one player from three of the six teams of the NHA. He was traded away from Quebec, which was eligible to lose a player. He started playing for Shamrocks, though he had been drafted by Victoria of the PCHA. It was found that the initial trade was not allowed, and Quebec re-traded him to Toronto during the season, disregarding the PCHA efforts to get him. During the 1914–15 season, he was traded back to Quebec, avoiding the PCHA draft again.

Much like his older brother Harry, Tommy Smith was a mercenary when it came to club loyalty, playing for a number of different teams both in Canada and in the United States. In December 1914, when he still had not reached terms with the Toronto Ontarios/Shamrocks franchise, he claimed the location where he played was secondary to the financial aspect of the game:

"'There is a big margin between us, I'll play here or in Mexico if the money is strong enough. I don't care where I play. This story about my not wanting to play anywhere else but Ottawa is not correct.'"

While skating for the Ottawa Victorias in 1906, Smith led the FAHL with 12 goals (including eight goals in a game against Brockville on February 23, 1906). In future years, he was the leading goal-scorer in the OPHL (1908–09), the MPHA (1910–11) and the NHA (1913–14, 1914–15).

Awards and achievements

 * 1906 – Member of Stanley Cup champion Ottawa Silver Seven
 * 1913 – Stanley Cup Champion with the Quebec Bulldogs
 * 1973 – Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame

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Trevor Woodman

Trevor James Woodman MBE (born 4 August 1976) is a former English rugby union footballer. He was born in Plymouth, but went to Liskeard School in Cornwall and won representative honours with Cornwall Under 16s.

Woodman moved from Cornwall and played first for Plymouth Albion and Bath before joining Gloucester Rugby in 1995. Whilst at Gloucester he was a replacement in the 2002 Zurich Championship Final (the year before winning the play-offs constituted winning the English title) in which Gloucester defeated Bristol Rugby, and started in the 2003 Powergen Cup Final in which Gloucester defeated Northampton Saints.

He appeared seven times for England A and won his first full cap coming off the bench for a 1999 World Cup warm-up match against the. Injury forced him out from what would have been his first tour, to in 2000, and although he also toured North America the following year, he failed to win a cap. His subsequent caps came from the bench until his first start against the All Blacks in November 2002. A neck injury forced him to withdraw from the remaining two autumn internationals and he was out of action for three months.

In March 2003, Woodman returned to the England squad and appeared as a replacement against both Scotland and Ireland. His World Cup starting position was sealed by strong performances in the pre-tournament matches. Woodman was England's loose-head prop in the World Cup final and became one of the best props in the game despite a career spent battling against injuries.

Woodman joined Sale Sharks for the 2004–2005 season but sustained a long-term back injury in training with the Sharks in September 2004. In the Summer of 2005, he was forced to retire at the age of 29 due to this injury.

Woodman provided commentary for Fox Sports in Australia, when England were there in July 2006 to contest the Cook Cup.

Woodman started his coaching career when he moved to Australia initially working with Sydney University before taking on the role of National Scrum Coach with the Australian Rugby Union.

Woodman's next career move saw him return to England when he undertook the role of Forwards Coach at Wasps, a position he held for four years. Woodman returned to his old club Gloucester Rugby to become their new Scrum Coach.

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User talk:Principia~enwiki

Welcome to the Wikipedia
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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

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Cumbernauld and Kirkintilloch (UK Parliament constituency)

Cumbernauld and Kirkintilloch is a constituency of the House of Commons of the Parliament of the United Kingdom. It was created for the 2005 general election, replacing Cumbernauld and Kilsyth and part of Strathkelvin and Bearsden.

The constituency covers the north of the North Lanarkshire council area, and small eastern and northern part of the East Dunbartonshire council area. Under the 2023 Periodic Review of Westminster constituencies the Boundary Commission for Scotland recommended new boundaries for the constituency and for it to be renamed from Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East, despite the fact that the constituency under the new boundaries still contains Kilsyth and only covers the eastern half of Kirkintilloch.

Boundaries
The new town of Cumbernauld is approximately 15 miles north-east of Glasgow. This constituency brings together areas from North Lanarkshire and East Dunbartonshire councils. The western, mostly rural, areas including Lennoxtown, Milton of Campsie, Twechar and the Campsie hills are joined in the east and south by the eastern wards from Kirkintilloch and the entire towns of Cumbernauld and Kilsyth. These two latter areas formed one constituency prior to the 2000 review.

2005–2024: The East Dunbartonshire Council wards of Bishopbriggs North and Campsie (part), Kirkintilloch East and North and Twechar (part), Lenzie and Kirkintilloch South (part), and the North Lanarkshire Council wards of Cumbernauld East, Cumbernauld North, Cumbernauld South, and Kilsyth.

2024–present: The East Dunbartonshire Council wards of Lenzie and Kirkintilloch South (part) and Kirkintilloch East and North and Twechar, and the North Lanarkshire Council wards of Kilsyth, Cumbernauld North, Cumbernauld South, Cumbernauld East, and Stepps, Chryston & Muirhead.


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Buchteln

Buchteln (from Czech buchta, pl. buchty, also in German: pl., sing. Buchtel; also Wuchtel(n), Ofennudel(n), Rohrnudel(n)) are sweet rolls made of enriched yeast dough, filled with powidl, jam, chocolate, ground poppy seeds or quark, brushed with butter and baked in a large pan so that they stick together and can be pulled apart. The traditional buchtel is filled with powidl. Buchteln may be topped with vanilla sauce, powdered sugar or eaten plain and warm. Buchteln are served lukewarm, mostly as a breakfast pastry or with tea. In the 19th century they could be boiled similar to dumplings.

The origin of the buchteln is the region of Bohemia, but they also play a major part in the Austrian, Slovak, Slovenian, and Hungarian cuisine. In Bavaria buchteln are called Rohrnudeln, in Slovenian buhteljni, in Serbian бухтле/buhtle or бухтла/buhtla, in Hungarian bukta, in Kajkavian buhtli, in Croatian buhtle, in Polish buchta, and in Czech buchta or buchtička, in Lombard Buten. In Romania, in the Banat region, are called bucte.

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User talk:Krun

Please post below any comments, suggestions, and requests you might have for me. You may use English, Icelandic, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, French, or German.

Chinese Punctuation Marks
I reverted one of your edit recently. Apparently, you don't know the proper usage of Chinese punctuation marks. First off, Chinese punctuation marks are relatively modern invention. Many ancient text did not have them. Publishers added them as annotation marks. So strictly speaking, the marks in most ancient quotes are not from the original text anyway. The 、 mark that you added is not a comma. The UNICODE name for the character is a misnomer. This mark is used like the : or ; in the English language. Some examples of usage follows (imagine the following text are written in Chinese and also note the proper use of comma in Chinese):

A list consists of： 1、item one 2、item two 3、item three

For Mother's day presents，I bought a diamond ring、a jet plane、a thirty room mansion.

I bought a diamond ring for her；she bought a car for me.

Please also note that hexadecimal entity does not work in older browsers. For compatibility reasons, it would be better to use the decimal value instead, e.g. #12289 is safer than #x3001.

Hope this clear it up for you. Kowloonese 20:20, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

Cyrillic letters
I don't think you should move the Cyrillic letters to their Unicode titles. There's too much possibility of confusion, the cyrillic Ve looks very much like the Latin B. Of course the Cyrillic letter title should exist as a redirect to Ve (Cyrillic). -- Curps 20:34, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I guess it might be a bit confusing because of the number of letters that have exactly the same form as some Latin letters... maybe it's best kept as it was after all. -- Krun 20:42, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Changing &# entities to accented letters
Hi, I noticed you're doing edits to change &# to accented letters, for instance this edit to Zdob şi Zdub.

 * It is not clear if such change is safe. the &# is encoding neutral and will appear correctly when the pages are presented in any encoding, but sometimes the accented letters can be encoding sensitive and they turn into gibblish whent he user pick a wrong encoding in the web broswers.  If all wiki pages are done in Unicode, then either way would be safe. Kowloonese 01:00, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

It's a good idea to get rid of these, but it's very tedious and error-prone to do so manually. I've recently written a bot that does this in an automated way, see User:Curpsbot-unicodify and Special:Contributions/Curpsbot-unicodify. Right now I'm running it on articles about Polish topics, but will soon run it on other eastern European categories as well. -- Curps 04:19, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Requesting comments on template alteration
Hello. I see you are using one or more of the User instruments templates in your Babel box. Inspired by some recent developments, I want to rework all the templates in there (including ones used on user pages), to make them more like the regular Babel templates. However, I thought I should hear from the people this would affect before actually doing it. Please weigh in at User:Ddawson/User instruments.

Your recent contributions
I see you've gone ahead and started working on the User instruments templates. I think most of them are okay (good catch boldfacing the skill words, instruments, etc., for instance). There are a couple of them that I disagree with, however.

 * You changed the link on 'professional' in User instrument subcategory/4 to link to the subcategory. However, there is a reason I linked it to the article professional; I would link the words in the other three templates to articles, if I knew what to link to (novice is inappropriate, for instance). User instrument/1 is a redirect to User instrument subcategory/1 and on through 3 (but not 4) because I realized after making the subcategory/n templates that I could reuse them; if in the future appropriate articles are found for 'novice', 'intermediate', and 'advanced', it will be necessary to un-redirect the user-page templates. But perhaps you feel 'professional' shouldn't be linked that way?
 * You reverted my removal of 'the' from User instrument category. It's probably not apparent to you (it wasn't to me initially), but there is a slight problem if someone wants to use a mass noun (such as 'percussion'); in that case, putting 'the' before it is awkward ("These users play the percussion..." See?). In fact, someone does want 'percussion'. On the other hand, I don't think leaving it out makes the phrase awkward, so it's best to leave it out.

Ddawson 06:43, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

You replied:

 * I totally disagree with your first point. Linking the levels with the level-specific subcategories conforms with the standard used for user language templates (e.g. User en-4). There should be at least this much uniformity in the various Babel templates. It is also much more useful for other Wikipedians to get a direct link to the relevant category in order to see which other users play the instrument at this level, rather than being told what a professional is (most users are familiar with the word's definition and would, I believe, rather have information that is more relevant and specific to the skills of the user in question).

Actually, I agree with what you're saying. But you seem to be confused about the difference between User instrument and User instrument subcategory: the former creates the box on a user page and thus definitely should link back to the subcategory page; the latter, however, makes the box on the subcategory page, in which there is no need for a link to the subcategory page (a self-link). Nor is an extra link to the main category needed, as the category tag serves that purpose.

I may have caused some confusion by putting subcategory links on the /1, /2, and /3 templates; that was merely so I could reuse them as the User instrument helpers, as there are already a lot of templates. As I said, User instrument/4 is the one that doesn't redirect, because of the link to professional in User instrument subcategory/4. In other words, the only possible problem is that perhaps there should be no link to professional anywhere, but I don't see any harm in it.

 * When it comes to the definite article in the instrument categories, I do find sentences like "These users play clarinet" much less natural than "These users play the clarinet". In special cases like percussion, one could simply use the raw code for the little green box at the top of the category and subsequently add CategoryTOC below, as there won't be many such cases. (In fact, that of percussion may be the only one.)

Hmm. Well, personally I tend to use either form. But I suppose you have a point. Very well, I will leave the 'the' in.

And thanks for your assistance in converting categories. Ddawson 05:03, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Chu shogi
Hi Krun,

About the piece names you changed. One (hakku) was a typo, but the rest follow Japanese Wikipedia. 反車 hensha <--> hansha confuses me, because I can't find hen as a possible pronunciaion of 反 (I only find han and hon), but hensha has its own article and is the only pronunciation given. 奔王 honnou and 龍馬 ryuume are specifically given as alternates to hon'ou and ryuuma, and seem to be the more common variants. kwami 02:20, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Just to make things clear: The Japanese Wikipedia does not show the names in rōmaji, only in hiragana. The free king's (奔王) name is given as ほんおう, for example. Proper rōmaji are meant to be able to be transliterated perfectly into hiragana or katakana, and the apostrophe is simply used (officially, I might add) to avoid confusion between post-syllabic n and syllable-initial n. Therefore the name should be written hon'ō, because the first syllable is "hon" (ほん) and the second is "ō" (おう), and not honnō, because this spelling leads one to think that the syllables are "hon" and "nou" (making the hiragana ほんのう, which is incorrect).

 * The piece is either ほんのう or ほんおう on the Japanese chu shogi page. Because ほんのう is irregular, I figured it must be the colloquial term. Presumably people who don't know the pronunciation in shogi circles would pronounce it regularly as ほんおう.

 * In the case of hansha/hensha (反車), "han" and "hon" are the only possible readings I get for the first character from my kanji dictionary, and here the piece is called hansha. I can only assume that the name is spelt incorrectly at the Japanese Wikipedia, which is of course no more infallible than the English version is.

 * If they spelled 反車 wrong, they did it both on the 反車 article - and several times at that - and on the chu shogi page. Somehow I doubt that's a typo. As for the English source, that isn't very reliable either.

 * The dragon horse (龍馬) is given as either りゅうま (ryūma) or りゅうめ (ryūme) at the Japanese Wikipedia, but ryūma is listed before the other, and since 馬 normally only has the readings ba, ma, and uma, I think it is better to put ryūma down here. If we had a separate article for each shogi piece, we could put the variant pronunciation ryūme in the page for dragon horse along with the other. --Krun 14:43, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

 * りゅうま is an irregular pronunciation. Given that irregular pronunciations are likely to be in common usage (otherwise people would just use the regular form), maybe you're right, and we should go with that - but to be consistant, only if we go with irregular hensha and honnou as well. りゅうめ is the expected pronunciation for that piece (め is the go on reading of 馬), which is probably why it's included. kwami 21:52, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

SVG images
Has the policy on vector vs. bitmap images been changed? My understanding was that SVG are stored for archival purposes but converted to PNG for use in articles due to lack of broad support in browsers. — Saxifrage | ☎ 23:28, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 * When an svg-image is used in an article, the Wikimedia servers convert it to png automatically, and it is displayed as such at the user end. No technical problems there. Krun 23:34, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah, that makes sense. Does that not put too much load on the servers? — Saxifrage | ☎ 23:55, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't cause too much workload; most flags, diagrams, etc., are easy to process. Besides, in future, when most people have a browser with good svg-support, it'll be much nicer for print. We should, of course, pave the way for new and better technology as much as we can :) – Krun 14:17, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Þórir Jökull Steinfinnsson
There's been a response on him. You can delete this post if you wish.--T. Anthony 12:31, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Jesus
Check out the Jesus article and edit it to keep it focused on Jesus and a biographical account of Him. Watch the Jesus page to keep it focused on Him. Thank you. Scifiintel 22:14, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Harry Potter featured article drive
I'm trying to get the Featured Article Drive going again on the HP Wikiproject. Check out Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Harry_Potter/Improvement, I'd appreciate your input! Ëvilphoenix Burn! 05:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Requested article
Hello, Krun. My name is Hatto. I'm from Japan. I knew you were from Iceland. At first, I ask you a question. Are you interested with Japanese culture and people? I want you to edit a certain famous person's article in the Icelandic language if you are OK. Please answer to me! (I can't speak English well.) Hatto 12:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

 * That'll probably not be a problem. Sure, I'll do it if there isn't extensive research involved ;) – Krun 16:03, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you for answering to me, Krun! I want you to edit Masashi Tashiro's article in the Icelandic language, OK? I explain about him because you may not know him. He is a so famous television performer in Japan. However, he committed several crimes one by one and he was dismissed from the entertainment world since he committed a crimes (Sneak shot of a woman's skirt) in 2000. For repeated scaldals, he was chosen as Time magazine's Person of the Year by unjust voting in 2001. Now, his articles were editted in Japanese, English, French, Spanish, Indonesian and Chinese etc. May I request editting his article to you? Hatto 07:50, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

 * There just isn't any article on him in Icelandic. What is it you want me to do? Are you asking me to write/translate the whole article from English? If so, I won't be able to do this until after the New Year. – Krun 13:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I'd like you to write and translate his article from Japanese and English wikipedia or other information. Ain't you able to edit until after the New Year comes? Of course, it's better if you do it from now, but you don't need to do it. I'm so glad if you do it in 2006. Hatto 01:24, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm so sorry to hurry you, but when do you edit Masashi Tashiro's article in Icelandic? Additionally, I'm so glad that you edit his article in Danish language if you are OK. Please!Hatto 15:44, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Need some help
I already posted this on your french user page but i don't know if you check it regulary so i post it here to, could you help me with a little problem of translation on that page : fr:Discuter:Takk%E2%80%A6 Takk :)

Need a translation / Besoin de traduction
Salut! Je cherchais un utilisateur parlant Danois et je suis tombé sur toi, pourrais tu nous traduire ceci s'il te plait: Discuter:FC Midtjylland. Merci.Sebcaen | ¿? 21 février 2006 à 08:42 (CET) Hi, I waiting for a danish user, and I see your profile. Could you translate this please: fr:Discuter:FC Midtjylland. Thanks.Sebcaen | ¿? 21 février 2006 à 08:42 (CET)

Högisländska at the Swedish Wikipedia
Hello! I've left a message for you at your Swedish user talk page. /130.243.135.145 17:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Lofsöngur photos
Hi Krun - thank you for getting in touch. I took both photographs myself after a request. I've updated the files on the Commons with GFDL-self and have added an information box. Is this enough? If you need anything else from me don't hesitate to ask. Qwghlm 21:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Bird names
Hi, please don't move articles on birds to "standard" wikipedia capitalization. (i.e. Common Starling -> Common starling), consensus has been reached to follow ornithological convention and capitalize all the words of bird's name in a title. (see WikiProject_Birds for full explanation.) Thanks Dsmdgold 01:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I've been through your contributions over the last couple of days and moved the pages back to the agreed titles and recapped the names as above. You might want to check that nothing useful like interwiki links has gone in the process. jimfbleak 05:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Sorry, I wasn't aware of this and until now suspected that it was just some private preference of a user or two. Still, I noticed that the project page you linked to purports to be a „draft“. And anyway, it's silly if it's limited to articles on birds rather than animals in general (or even all living species). Is there a common consensus on these conventions throughout Wikipedia's zoological „community“? – Krun 11:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Please see Capitalization of common names of species --Droll 05:59, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Hola
Disculpándome de antemano por no respetar tu aviso sobre el idioma que debo usar (no tengo tiempo ahora para escribirte en mi mal inglés) TE FELICITO por ser una persona tan completa: música, idiomas, internet y, por supuesto wikipedia. Espero que algún día puedas ayudarme con el idioma islandés, yo estoy dispuesto a resolver tus dudas acerca del español si lo necesitas (soy profesor). Saludos desde Chile.- KAZAHANA

 * Gracias, Kazahana. Desafortunadamente, mi español no es muy bueno, pero quizás comenzaré seriamente a aprenderlo este año. Si usted tiene cualesquiera preguntas sobre el islandés, no vacile pedir. – Krun 00:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Translation
Hi! I have a request: could you translate sth from norwegian to english ( & )? It's really a short thing and I'd be most grateful to you if you did it ;) If for some reasons you cannot do this, please tell me who can (maybe you know someone who can help me).

I understand some of it and I want to know what prize they are talking about etc. Thanks Wyglif   SMS  19:33, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

they're not that far apart
after an experiment with Russian and the Slavic languages I decided to try my hand at a Germanic one, and enska og islenska eru ekki mikil olikur. Erm, I'm only starting, so feel free to laugh at my grammar. And -- guess what? We have cases in Russian. --VKokielov 05:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Harry Potter
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Un aiuto per un cognome
Caro Krun, complimenti per le tue conoscenze enciclopediche e poliglotte (ovvero di tante lingue). So che le tue conoscenze di italiano sono iniziali, ma approfitto comunque della tua cortesia. Mi chiamo Mauro Feltini (Feltini il cognome). Solo la mia famiglia ha questo cognome in Italia. Ho guardato su Google e trovo tanti riferimenti con Feltini (incluso la foto di uno splendido gattino) in lingua faroese (almeno credo sia questa lingua). Mi piacerebbe sapere cosa significa feltini in questa lingua. Mi puoi aiutare? Grazie P.S. Se trovi difficile il mio testo in italiano posso riscriverlo in inglese. Ciao e grazie

 * Caro Mauro! Nella lingua faroese, "feltini" significa "i campi" (campi como in un modulo di denuncia). È non una referenza verso tua famiglia. – Krun 19:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. I hope my Italian made sense :P

Caro Krun, grazie mille per il tuo aiuto, il tuo italiano e' comprensibile e la tua risposta mi ha tolto una curiosita'. Se potro' ricambiare in qualche modo la tua cortesia, mi fara' piacere. Puoi scrivermi (anche in inglese) a mauro@feltini.it

Mac OS X
Whilst not being a strict comment or suggestion about you per se, I was just wondering if you have installed the Icelandic extras available for Mac OS X (I noticed that you’re a fellow Mac user). I have downloaded the pack and gotten to the point where the installer asks for a raðnúmer, I think this is asking for some kind of serial number but with my limited knowledge of Icelandic I’m not sure. You see, I want to install the language pack so it can help me further my understanding of Icelandic. I hope to live in Iceland one day! Anyway, could you help me translate this text so I can make sense of what the Installer is asking for?
 * ''Sláðu inn raðnúmerið sem þú fékkst við afhendingu tölvunnar eða stýrikerfisins. Vanti þig slíkt skaltu senda póst til tiger@apple.is.

Any help that you could give me would be much appreciated. P.S. If you have a minute could you check out some of my additions to the Icelandic language article, to see that my contribs (in the grammar and phrases sections) make grammatical sense. Only if you want to, I mean I need someone to check over my very basic íslenska. Max Naylor 19:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes, the installer is in fact asking for a specific serial number which customers in Iceland receive when they buy an Apple computer here. It furthermore directs the user to contact tiger@apple.is if he does not have one. By the way, I checked your contributions and made some corrections, mainly in pronunciation. – Krun 19:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Oh, OK thanks mate. Wonder if I’ll be able to get one if I send an e-mail. Cheers for the corrections, BTW. Max Naylor 21:36, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Iceland
Maybe you are interested in this project... --Michkalas 14:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikimania 2010 could be coming to Stockholm!
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Icelandic example recordings
Hello! I noticed you uploaded some examples of Icelandic to Wikimedia Commons. Would you be willing to record a set of examples as an audio illustration for Aspirated consonant, showing the unusual contrast in aspiration, preaspiration, doubling, and vowel length of stops in Icelandic? As a language enthusiast, I would very much appreciate this. — Eru·tuon 20:47, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * kapp "zeal"
 * gabb "hoax"
 * gap "opening"

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Ég þarf að skrifa á íslensku
Halló, ég vona að þú sért í góðu skapi. Hér ferum við. Ég þarf að spyrja spurningu. Hver er skoðun þín á lífinu? Ég myndi segja: „Lifðu gott líf; njóttu þess eins vel og þú getur“... — AWESOME meeos ！ *  ([ˈjæb.ə ət məɪ])) 13:19, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Sæll. Það er ágætt að þú sért að læra íslensku. Byrjum á því að leiðrétta það sem þú skrifaðir:
 * Halló, ég vona að þú sért í góðu skapi. (perfect)
 * Hér ferum förum við. (This literal translation of “Here we go” in inappropriate; there is no direct equivalent to the English usage of that phrase here, and it would be most natural not to say anything of the kind)
 * Ég þarf að spyrja spurningu spurningar (genitive case).
 * Hver er skoðun þín á lífinu? Ég myndi segja: (perfect)
 * „Lifðu gott líf góðu lífi (dative case);
 * njóttu þess eins vel og þú getur“... (perfect)
 * Sem svar við uppgefinni lífsskoðun þinni vil ég segja: „Lifðu kærleiksríku lífi; láttu náunga þinn njóta þess eins vel og þú getur“. Sælla er að gefa en þiggja, og þar að auki nýturðu þess er fólkið endurgeldur greiðasemina. Það er það sem maður kallar „win–win“. – Krun (talk) 15:37, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up! Yes, the cases do intimidate me... — AWESOME meeos ！ *  ([ˈjæb.ə ət məɪ])) 21:11, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Re: Jónas Egilsson
Hi. Takk fyrir for your kind words of appreciation of my work and article. I have written many articles about Iceland, as I am very interested in that country, its culture, language and people. I would like to learn Icelandic one day :) Nice that you have translated the article into English, as it makes possible for more people to know about this person :) Kveðjur frá Póllandi, Żyrafał (talk) 13:45, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Could you help?..
Hi, You were the first (active) editor I found with a babel IS-N! (there are not many!) I am trying to validate some old facebook derived images. I have got stuck on c:File:Icelandic words for computer.jpg. The image has a license of CC-zero. According to Google there is some mention of wiki use, but I can't find a proper license declaration - it seems to point to an Icelandic page, where clicking the image brings one back to commons - Google is not that good at all that translation, it might have missed something. Can you see if there is a good enough permission? Thanks. Ron h jones (Talk) 22:37, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The Facebook conversation does not include license specifics. The uploader, Ævar, asked the author, Þórhallur, for permission to use it with a free (libre) license, which he agreed to immediately. While it wasn’t specified what the license would be, I’m not sure that the graph is copyrightable at all. There was minimal work involved, as the data (which anyway isn’t copyrightable by itself) just comes from timarit.is, a public magazine and newspaper repository, and the graph is drawn with LibreOffice. In any case, I think the author has given implicit consent to the license since Ævar posted the link to the article (giving him opportunity to review the license) and he approved. I do think that it would have been more appropriate to put this on Ævar’s talk page and if you have further questions you should direct them at him. I hope this helps. – Krun (talk) 12:56, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

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Discussion at Talk:Foreman Thuridur
I invite you to please join the discussion at Talk:Foreman Thuridur.

Hello, I am seeking help with the Foreman Thuridur article, recently translated from is:Þuríður formaður, and the discussion on its talk page. I am writing to you because you are in Category:User is-N and you are either part of WikiProject Iceland, interested in translating, or have been active on the Icelandic or English Wikipedias or other Wikimedia projects.

I realize that some of you are very busy (especially the admins), while others may no longer be editing. Nevertheless, I thought it wise to consult with you.

Thank your for whatever work that you do on Wiki[mp]edia! Peaceray (talk) 05:58, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

 * Thanks very much, Krun, for looking at this and correcting the inflected form to Stéttar. I have since had an email from Margaret Willson who tells me "The name of the farm where Þuríður grew up and also where Jón Geirmundsson later lived is Stéttir (in various cases Stéttir, Stétta, Stéttum, Stéttir…..). It is located just to the east of Eyrarbakki near the coast. Perhaps there is another farm near Selfoss with the name Stéttar?" Perhaps you could take a look at the full text of and see what you think. I can read Icelandic but am no expert on grammar. I must say there are a few places in the area where she lived which today contain Stéttar.--Ipigott (talk) 18:18, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Stéttar and Stéttir is the same place name in different forms; they are variant plural forms of the common noun stétt. Both forms are used for this exact place; my source was, which uses Stéttar and quotes older sources also using that form of the name (and mentions it as the birthplace of Þuríður), though other sources may use Stéttir. I believe that the more proper form in this case may be Stéttar, but it is not of great importance, and the form Stéttir should not exactly be regarded as an error. Perhaps we should put “Stéttar (or Stéttir)” or something like that, as giving both forms may help people search the available source material. – Krun (talk) 00:45, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for explaining this so clearly. I've followed your advice on Stéttar (or Stéttir). That should keep everyone happy.--Ipigott (talk) 11:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

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