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Talk:2000 NHL entry draft

yeloow background highlight
what is whith the handful of players being highlighted and one pick location? Childhoodtrauma (talk) 17:46, 20 October 2009 (UTC) -Well, with 8 months going by without this question being answered, I'll assume it's safe to just remove it. I can't figure out what it's supposed to be saying (or even what it was when it was first added). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.91.212.39 (talk) 19:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

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 * Johan Eneqvist (Q5711495) - 1
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 * Petr Chvojka - 1
 * Joe Cullen (ice hockey) (Q1475470) - 2
 * Vasili Bizyayev - 1
 * Igor Samoilov - 1
 * Marco Tuokko (Q524599) - 1
 * Lubos Velebny (Q345051) - 2
 * Vladislav Luchkin (Q17544254) - 1
 * Jimmie Svensson (Q106797990) - 1
 * Alexander Polukeyev - 1
 * Alexander Shinkar - 1
 * Pasi Saarinen (Q11886821) - 1
 * Martin Paroulek - 1
 * Andreas Lindstrom (Q28840103) - 1
 * Arne Ramholt (Q692751) - 2
 * Lauri Kinos (Q11875052) - 1

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How to complete the list

 * I glanced over at the other languages, and the French Wikipedia seems to have the full first 9 rounds covered. Anyone willing to try and copy their info is welcome to. Otherwise, you can get the info from The NHL's website and work from there. It still lacks notes on traded/acquired picks and what not though. KirkCliff2 (talk) 17:48, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

33 picks in the 2nd round?
Can anyone explain why there are 33 picks listed for the second round, or is this an error? Dolovis (talk) 16:20, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

These redlinked draft picks meet WP:NHOCKEY

 * Marcus Jonasen - 1
 * Marek Chvatal - 1
 * Jonas Fiedler (Q8428079) - 1
 * Jesse Lane - 3
 * Alexander Kozhevnikov (ice hockey, born 1984) - 1
 * Jakub Hulva - 1
 * Yuri Artyomenkov - 1
 * Petr Dvorak (Q11815943) - 1
 * David Turon (Q1176917) - 1
 * Jan Kubista (ice hockey) - 1
 * Johan Berggren - 1
 * Emanuel Peter (Q1334741) - 2
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 * Karri Akkanen (Q16159926) - 1
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 * Alexei Stonkus - 1
 * Mikael Vuorio (Q11882655) - 1
 * Niklas Eckerblom - 1
 * Joni Lindlof (Q2371059) - 1
 * Tuomas Mikkonen (Q1325225) - 1
 * Sergei Shemetov (ice hockey) - 1
 * Martin Cizek (ice hockey) (Q27075289) - 1
 * Thomas Nussli (Q2426362) - 2
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Colored names?
There is no mention in the article of what the yellow-colored boxes for some players names means. 71.234.131.146 (talk) 17:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Seconded. They appear to designate "star" players, but there's no rhyme, reason, or consistency to them (Why Shea Weber and not Marc-Andre Fleury in this draft? Why Duncan Keith and not Cam Ward in the 2002 draft?). There either needs to be a stated criteria for them, applied consistently, or they should be removed outright.Habfan29 (talk) 16:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

They do seem to be poorly done. But it seems they represent all-star players. The same system is used in the NFL draft pages. I put in a legend at the top of the page to make this clearer. Although, the other option in later drafts seems to be to simply putting a cross marking all-stars, and leaving it all white. Bmcnamee (talk) 15:42, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

These redlinked draft picks meet WP:NHOCKEY

 * Patrik Valcak (Q2058119) - 1
 * Alexander Naurov - 1
 * Randall Gelech (Q2130596) - 2
 * Alexander Hult - 1
 * Vladimir Kutny (Q12778638) - 1
 * Niko Vainio (Q1218066) - 1
 * Loic Burkhalter (Q1550375) - 2

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Talk:2005 NHL entry draft

We don't need the flag template for the Nationality box... just the abbreviation or full name of the country will do. That actually links back to the country. --Madchester 03:28, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Why not? It would add to the visual imagery of the table. -- Earl Andrew - talk 03:57, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * This is probably the best compromise (i.e., USA [[Image:Flag of the United States.svg|20px]] like in Amazing Race 5), it's best to allow users to have access to each player's respective home country, cuz the flag image links nowhere. Also, the actual name of a country is more immediately recognizable than a flag. --Madchester 05:45, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * The template shows both, see 2004 NHL Entry Draft for what I mean -- Earl Andrew - talk 07:56, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Why does Round 5 begin at 121 when that position is already included in round 4? SD6-Agent 08:34, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 * They added draft picks to the list, which increased the numbers. The other rounds havent been updated yet. -- Earl Andrew - talk 09:01, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism
Someone should fix the scouting rankings. They have obviously been vandalized. AEJ 19:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I got it fixed now. AEJ 19:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Yellow
Why are some highlighted in yellow? It states no reason for this. Marcus1060 (talk) 11:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

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 * Nathan Davis (ice hockey) (Q3336711) - 6
 * Tim Kunes (Q28974223) - 3

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Why are some of the players highlighted in gold??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.149.163.110 (talk) 21:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Pekka Rinne made the NHL 2nd All-Star Team in 2010-11 but did not play a single All-Star Game... what color should be used for players who were nominated to post-season All-Star Teams without playing in All-Star Games?--Xiaoshan Math (talk) 19:23, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

These redlinked draft picks meet WP:NHOCKEY

 * Kyle Wharton (Q19288562) - 1
 * Roman Tomanek (Q3440906) - 1
 * Peter Guggisberg (Q680540) - 6
 * Sergei Kukushkin (Q463571) - 1
 * Jonas Fiedler (Q8428079) - 1
 * Jan Steber (Q11719680) - 1
 * Valtteri Tenkanen (Q11900309) - 1

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Pick 80
I think USA Today is wrong about the conditions of the conditional 4th round pick in the June 2003 Markov/Tanabe trade. This June 16, 2004 article on the Hurricanes website says the following: “One of Carolina’s fourth-round picks includes an option for the Hurricanes to use Phoenix’s third-round pick in either 2005 or 2006 rather than Phoenix’s fourth-round pick this year as a part of the June 21, 2003, trade that sent David Tanabe and Igor Knyanev to the Coyotes in exchange for Danny Markov.“ If USA Today were right it would require Phoenix to acquire the pick twice on the same day in order to finally end up trading it to the Rangers. --67.141.251.90 (talk) 17:19, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

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Nationality
Because he was born in Northern Ireland, doesn't that make him British as well as Canadian? 67.188.172.165 04:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes but he competes internationally for Canada. He's already categorised a northern irish ice hockey player and a person from belfast.  What else to you propose?  Kevlar67 18:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I VAS NAMED AFTA HIMZ!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.193.241.136 (talk) 01:07, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

It should be British-Canadian. GoodDay (talk) 20:00, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

He is called Owen Nolan FFS, he is clearly catholic, so he is Irish-Canadian, nothing British about him. Please don't comment on something you clearly know nothing about. James from Derry, Ireland. hes British you twit NI is part of the UK --2.101.29.171 (talk) 14:47, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

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Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you were just trying to experiment, then use the sandbox instead. Thank you. Meelar (talk) 04:52, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Mats Sundin

Stanley Cup
For all of the accolades listed for Sundin, shouldn't it be noted he is yet to win a Stanley Cup in his otherwise impressive career? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.77.9.242 (talk) 01:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Sundin Photo
Someone just reverted the UP TO DATE NHLPA main photo back to the version from 2003 for absoloutely no reason. I've reverted it back. If you have a problem with the photo then please comment here. --Tykell 02:03, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Where has his photo gone? Has the NHL disallowed posting them? I noticed Kaberle's photo and others are missing too The Hobo 18:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Hobo, Wikipedia admins have decided to be anal morons and have determined that since we aren't making an effort to go out and get a "free photo" of the athletes, even though the NHLPA has allowed these images to be used here, that the photos are illegal to be used on wikipedia. --Stukov 22:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Just because the NHLPA has not specifically asked for the removal of the photos does not mean they have given us permission to use them. Their terms of services explicitly state that their photos are not freely redistributable. --Wafulz 02:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It would be pretty weak if they were just being anal morons, maybe I'll write a letter to the NHLPA asking if we can have permission.. I find it's honestly very useful to have the pictures there --The Hobo 03:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I think the fact that he was the first non-Canadian player to captain the Leafs is an interesting tidbit that could be added to the article. I'd do it, but I'm not sure exactly where is would fit in, so I'll leave it to someone else Priester 04:29, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I added the fact that Mats Sundin has won three World Championships with Team Sweden to the International Play Section. I also corrected a typing error: Sundin was a member of the Canada Cup All Star team in 1991 not 1992 (there was no CC Cup in 92). Felix

@ Priester: I think there should be a section called "Trivia" like there is on other athletes' pages. If I knew how to edit stuff, I would put it in. Will R.

Wikipedia is trying to eliminate "Trivia" sections, such facts if regarded as encyclopedic value it should be worked into the article. --Krm500 22:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Sundin in Sweden
Added a bit in the International Career about his standing in Sweden.Sundin has played in the olimpics quite a few times.

Oct. 31, 2006 edit
I removed that he was traded to Quebec for Goulet and a draft pick. Of course he can't be traded to the team he is already on. Previous versions of the article say he was drafted by Hartford and then traded, but the NHL web site says he was drafted by Quebec (I added the reference). I assume the Goulet trade didn't happen or was for someone else.

I don't see a big problem saying he's considered to be one of the greatest Swedish players ever, but since someone asked for a citation, I just removed the sentence. It's clear from the article how great he is.24.68.180.163 08:45, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

 * No, he was definitely drafted by the Nordiques (they had him, Nolan, and Lindros all in a row)- you were correct in removing that. Goulet was also on the Nordiques in 1989, so I don't know how that trade would make sense.

 * About the greatest Swede thing- I found this, but it says he's one of the greatest forwards of the last 15 years, so I don't know if it'd quite work. The HHOF website might have something, but their search is down right now. --Wafulz 14:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Why are you retards not allowing me to post the fact that Mats Sunin supports The National Democrats in Sweden?? He's a proud Swede, and you may not agree with his politics, but that does not mean you should hide the facts!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.137.104.115 (talk • contribs)
 * Be civil on talk pages
 * No personal attacks
 * Provide a source
 * It's not even relevant to this article. He's not very political to begin with- he's a hockey player, so unless he regularly donates large sums or frequently campaigns for them, it's not necessary to have the information here. --Wafulz 03:16, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Penalty Box cameras edit
Does this count as a source?  I guess that's only one (of probably more) incidents and it wasn't said in words, but I did find it funny. --The Hobo 18:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I can guarantee that I've seen it happen several times, but yeah, we need a published source for this. Otherwise it's more of something that fans have noticed (ie this video attests to it happening once). Given the frequency of his hatred of penalty box cameras, it'll only be a matter of time before they dedicate an intermission segment or mention it in a story somewhere. I also don't think it should be in the article unless the media picks up on it- right now, while humourous, it's largely trivial. --Wafulz 18:21, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Wifes' Picture?
Do we really need one first off and 2nd off their are at least thousands of kids that go on this page and do they really need to see such an exposing picture? We don't even have a picture of him but his wife has one?

 * That was vandalism. It's not his wife/fiance. It's a porn actress.-Wafulz 13:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Mats vs Mattias
Someone wrote his name is not Mattias. Isn't Mats a shortened version of Mattias? If so, it should say his name is indeed Mattias.

Sorry about this.Somehow it got posted twice.

Norum 06:55, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Mats vs Mattias
Someone wrote his name is not Mattias. Isn't Mats a shortened version of Mattias? If so, it should say his name is indeed Mattias. Norum 04:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

04:28, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

 * No sources indicate that his name is "Mattias"- it should stay as "Mats".-Wafulz 05:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I just looked it up and Mats is not a short version of Mattias. They are, indeed, two different names.

Norum 22:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Mats Sundin reaches 500th goal with third of a hat-trick
Sorry to be pedantic guys but Brett Hull also reached his 500th with the third of a hat-trick, you even have that on his wikipedia page. So there are 3 players (Sundin, Hull, Messier) that have done this, not just Sundin and Messier as you have in your article.

Here is another ridiculously hilarious reference that proves Brett scored his 500th in a hat-trick.

Brett Hull hits 500, December 22 1996

White Ox 33 07:18, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Swedish Enticements
Is this really noteable? Bulbous (talk) 15:30, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Well a whole city is trying to convince him to move there, so I think it is. It's pretty rare for an entire community to get behind a contract offer like this.-Wafulz (talk) 15:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't really know if it is or not. Certainly, this is the most high-profile situation that I can think of. But, 10 years from now, would the fact that he was offered a bag of swedish meatballs a week really be noteworthy in a brief bio page like this? Bulbous (talk) 16:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * What if I cut some examples out?-Wafulz (talk) 17:15, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That might be a good idea. That much detail is probably a little unnecessary. Bulbous (talk) 17:43, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Nickname
Saving nicknames for future use in prose. Sudden -Djsasso (talk) 01:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Vancouver Canucks
On December 18, 2008 it was news broke that Mats Sundin has signed with the Vancouver Canucks for the remainder of the 2008-2009 NHL season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbracer (talk • contribs) 23:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

He agreed, but has not signed yet. He can't sign because of the holiday freeze.

Norum (talk) 02:58, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

 * No, that's not true. He can sign during this period. You've misread the facts somewhere. Alaney2k (talk) 03:35, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Sundin did sign because the NHL roster freeze began at midnight, December 19th - which is AFTER the signing was done and announced. – Skyezx  message  09:20, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I read elsewhere that he can sign during the freeze. He would then have to be activated immediately after the freeze ended. Alaney2k (talk) 15:14, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Why is this section almost as long as the Leafs section? Nobody will care about those silly little details about how he ended up there a few years from now. He played 1,480 games with the Leafs and 49 with the Canucks!
 * the problem isn't that the Canucks section is too long it's that the Leafs section is too short. It is notable that they offered to make him the highest paid player and as to why he missed extra games in the playoffs IMHO.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 17:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Bromma vs. Stockholm
I think that Stockholm should be as the place of birth, not Bromma for the fact that Bromma is not a separate city, but only a part of Stockholm.

Norum (talk) 23:03, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Lifetime Statistics
I'm thinking that the statistics are not added up properly. The number I am getting from adding up all of the posted PIM is over 1100, but the total says 1063 I think. NHL.com lists the total as 1093, not considering the 2 min he tabulated today. I bet there are many incorrect stats for nearly every sport on here. Hard to keep straight. Farglesword (talk) 21:57, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This is why stats are not to be updated until the end of the season. – Nurmsook!  talk...  22:01, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that makes sense, but the season's over. The playoffs are TBD. But the total is stil 1141 regardless. NHL.com is at 1093. I'll try to find out where the difference lies.Farglesword (talk) 22:10, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Alright. I see. Both NHL.com and Wikipedia list NHL totals. That's all fine, but maybe NHL and other leagues shouldn't be included in the same list then, or NHL stats should be made to stand out like on NHL.com where they are bolded.Farglesword (talk) 22:18, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well career statistics means all the stats from his career. There's no real need to bold them because the total column specifically states that the totals are the the NHL only. – Nurmsook!  talk...  22:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Over-focus on an NHL perspective
The article, as it currently stands, is overly focused on an NHL perspective, and fails to reflect the relative importance given to international championships vs NHL outside of North-America. (To many Swedes, e.g., the NHL is just a national championship; albeit the largest and most prestigious in the world. A world championship or an Olympic tournament is given significantly more attention.)

Because WP should reflect the international view, not the local US (Swedish, Nigerian, ...) view, I suggest that the article is re-ordered/re-written to put his international efforts (which internationally are more significant) at the top. Further, that the introduction is re-written correspondingly. Further, that a section on his (comparatively brief) time in the Swedish national hockey league is added.

A similar critique is likely to apply to the articles of other hockey players from outside North-America. (Those from within, arguably and typically, have had sufficiently few international appearances that an NHL centric view can be justified.) 94.220.254.21 (talk) 10:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Retirement
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Bryn Mawr Historic District

The Bryn Mawr Historic District (pronounced from Welsh for "big hill") is on the lakefront of the Edgewater neighborhood of far-north Chicago, Illinois. It extends along Bryn Mawr Avenue between Broadway and Sheridan Road. Its most prominent features are the Belle Shore Apartment Hotel, Bryn Mawr Apartment Hotel, Edgewater Beach Apartments, Edgewater Presbyterian Church, Manor House, and the northernmost area of Lincoln Park.

Old fashioned green lanterns and lamp posts, reminiscent of Chicago in the 1920s and 1930s, line the Bryn Mawr Historic District streets, adorned with green banners and gold lettering proudly proclaiming the neighborhood's historic significance. It was declared a historic district by the Chicago City Council due to the presence of several Chicago Landmark sites.

Bryn Mawr Avenue was named in the 1880s by Edgewater developer John Lewis Cochran after Bryn Mawr station on the Main Line north of Philadelphia. Bryn Mawr is Welsh for Big Hill.

Bryn Mawr & Belle Shore Apartment Hotels
Built between 1928 and 1929, this pair of detailed buildings are symbolic of the rapid growth and expansion of Chicago in the 1920s and the commercial development of Bryn Mawr Avenue and the surrounding community. Situated across the street from each another, the buildings both feature extensive and lavish use of decorative terracotta. The 12-story Bryn Mawr is dressed in white terracotta designed in a late Gothic Revival style, while the 8-story Belle Shore is clad in rich green and cream terracotta and features Egyptian-like Art Deco designs.

Designated a Chicago Landmark on November 6, 2002.

Manor House
The 1907 Manor House residential complex was built by John Edmund Oldaker Pridmore in the Tudor Revival style. It features two symmetrical wings, each with a large turret. The building is listed on the National Register of Historic Places.

Edgewater Beach Apartments
This structure, dating to 1928, is the extension wing of a lavish hotel complex, the Edgewater Beach Hotel. Although once popular with celebrities and the elite, the extension of the Lake Shore Drive cut the hotel from the beach and led to its demolition. The building is listed on the National Register of Historic Places.

The Renaissance
This 17-story building is built in a Renaissance Revival style and was sold as apartment dwelling for the well-to-do.

The building is listed on the National Register of Historic Places.

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Magnus Eriksson (disambiguation)

Magnus Eriksson (1316–1374) was the King of Sweden from 1319 to 1364 and the King of Norway from 1319 to 1355.

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Nakfa

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Talk:Whisky a Go Go

Opening year
I think you'll find that The Whisky actually opened in 1964. Check with the Whisky's own site, which has a link at the bottom of this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User2004 (talk) 04:54, 18 April 2005

Metallica
Metallica, to the best of my knowledge met Cliff Burton after seeing him play with his band Trauma in San Francisco at the Troubador club. Metallica Italic textwereItalic text playing in L.A. at the time, but after meeting Burton in San Francisco moved there so that he would join the band. I'm going to remove the reference; by all means put it back and slap me around if you have a primary source that contradicts my information. My source admittedly is secondary, a book entitled The Frayed Ends of Metal (researched from many interviews with Metallica; no interviews were conducted for the writing of said book).

TJSwoboda 05:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

City of Los Angeles and the Whisky?
The Whisky has never been within the city limits of Los Angeles, and so the city government would not have had jurisdiction there. Prior to the incorporation of West Hollywood in 1982, the stretch of Sunset Boulevard where the Whisky is located was under the jurisdiction of Los Angeles County, so the county government - not the city government - would have been responsible for applying the pressure. In 1966, there was vocal displeasure on the part of county government and the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department (the police agency with jurisdiction over the Whisky) owing to the Whisky featuring African-American acts. The change in the sign may have had something to do with this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.160.50.111 (talk) 18:39, 5 July 2006

System of a Down Set
"In 1997, System Of A Down played an amazing set at The Whisky."

This sentence should be classified as an opinion, rather than plain, neutral fact. Therefore, it should be removed or fixed.

Dancing Raccoon — Preceding undated comment added 19:14 & :15, 10 August 2011

"First"
The phrase "the first discothèque, the 'Whisky à Go-Go'" has two shameful weaknesses: Am i going to fix all that? Certainly not in the next 24, and after that i'm easily distracted by other shiny objects. --Jerzy•t 01:21 & 03:28, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) "Discothèque" has three meanings; "sailor's home-port record collection" and "covert venue for listening to jazz records in occupied France" are both senses that predate this supposed "first" disco; IMO inserting "modern" after "first", after creating a single article (perhaps Discothèque (roots)) covering the first two meanings, and a Hat note pointing to it that new article will provide an easy solution.
 * 2) More desperately, Discothèque is not an article, but a Rdr. To a whole article, not a section within it. And the article is Nightclub (perhaps written by someone too young to have watched films like Casablanca, in which Rick's patrons expect fully live performances and the opportunity to at least request "Melancholy Baby" if it ' s been a bad enough night). So IMO we are leading naive readers to conclude there were no nightclubs before 1947, and that, say, the Cotton Club was not a nightclub ... even tho we say there that it was.

Rue de Seine or de Beaujolais?
I removed Seine but did not replace it with Beaujolais (which are about 20 minutes walk apart) even tho the latter seems to be attested to by the traditionally published works. IMO more research is needed. I started out expecting that both Rue de Seine and 1947 would prove to be attributable to an imposter (since Zylberberg's crucial innovations go unmentioned), but the feel of the sources taken together suggests to me more Zylberberg plus researching the possibility that Rue de Seine came first, but a week or a month made it clear that it was worth throwing away what they'd invested in that space, and setting up where they had more exposure or could accommodate larger crowds, or both. That's just my speculation, but it makes more sense than a conspiracy theory, and probably should be further researched. --Jerzy•t 02:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

... all over the country.
Well, that's obviously hyperbolic and thus dubious; how about "in at least x population centers"? Ideally, editors could list cities in numbered points in this talk sub-section, with city name, exact club name, and a link to the verifying source, if they don't know how to start a footnote and use refs within the footnote. I suppose i could in theory change it to "at least three population centers", list LA, DC, and NYC Chi in the footnote, and fact-tag each city, but i think the dubious tag is ugly enuf. (I.e., at this point i'd feel proceeding had made us look silly.) If someone provides refs for each of the cities already mentioned, or at least one city not yet mentioned, and makes a request at my talk page, IMO that would be a good reason for me to replace the dubious tag with the footnote and as many refs or facts as are appropriate. --Jerzy•t 03:16 &03:38, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Meaning of the name
In French, it should be "Whisky à gogo". It means a lot of...whisky. "à gogo" means you have as much as you want from something. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:8A8D:FE80:ACD0:3BE1:7223:E995 (talk) 22:24, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Spelling?
Can we please have a consistent spelling in the article? Pretty please? What IS it??? Whisky a Go Go or Whisky a Go-Go? Freelance-writer-editor (talk) 23:42, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it changed over time, or in different contexts. Ghmyrtle (talk) 06:29, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

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Syrian–Lebanese Communist Party

The Syrian–Lebanese Communist Party (الحزب الشيوعي السوري اللبناني, Al-Ḥizb al-shuyū'ī al-sūrī al-lubnānī; French: Parti communiste de la Syrie et du Liban) was a communist political party, operating in Syria and Lebanon, and founded in 1924 by the Lebanese Egyptian Fu'ad al-Shimali, the Lebanese Yusuf Yazbek and the Armenian Artin Madoyan. Its general secretary was Khalid Bakdash. It was the second communist party to be formed in the Levant, after the Communist Party of Palestine, but it was the first to be largely Arab, as the Palestinian party initially drew largely from the Jewish community.

In its earliest years, the party supported the Syrian Revolt of 1925, but was quickly repressed by the forces of General Maurice Sarrail. Their newspapers were closed down and party leaders remained imprisoned until an amnesty law secured their release in 1928.They supported the rebel force led by Sultan al-Atrash. The party was represented at the 6th Congress of the Communist International in 1928 by Fu'ad al-Shimali. It was also in 1928 that the party, despite operating in what is now both Syria and Lebanon, adopted the name "Communist Party of Syria (Al-Ḥizb al-shuyū'ī al-sūrī), reflecting its commitment to Syrian unity and rejection of the division of the historic region under colonial mandates. However, it later reverted to its original name.

Under the French Mandate, it was an underground organization, then legalized in 1936–1939 by the French Front Populaire government, and again in 1941. The party took a new option of collaboration with the nationalist movement and playing down its socialist themes in 1936, in accordance with the 7th World Congress of the Comintern in 1935.

Later, the party was divided into the Syrian Communist Party and the Lebanese Communist Party, but the decision, taken at the end of 1943, was only implemented in 1964. In between, common central committee and political bureau were maintained.

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Is each fact referenced with an appropriate, reliable reference? Jamarredhead (talk) 20:20, 13 March 2017 (UTC)Yes, each of the facts on Blair's career have been referenced appropriate, with reliable sources that have the date that the article was published, authors names, and a neutral sources that do not provide any biased information. Is everything in the article relevant to the article topic? Is there anything that distracted you? Jamarredhead (talk) 20:20, 13 March 2017 (UTC)Everything in this article is relevant to the article topic. This article gave a brief description of the playing career of Blair Atcheynum, and did not provide any pieces of information that were not relevant to the topic. The only thing I would improve is to put in more information in this article about Blair's Personal, and Childhood life, or anything outside of just Hockey so that readers could get a true sense of who he was, rather than just a hockey player. Is the article neutral? Are there any claims, or frames, that appear heavily biased toward a particular position? Jamarredhead (talk) 20:20, 13 March 2017 (UTC)I would not consider this article to be biased in any particular position. The article on Blair Atcheynum is basically an observation of his career accolades over the years of his rise to eventually playing in the National Hockey League.

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Talk:Multnomah Falls

Discovery
Who discovered the falls and when.

Thank-you, Amy Shay. (04:57 on 18 April 2005 from  208.8.78.228)

 * If you mean the first white people, I would suspect it's Lewis and Clark, although it's possible Robert Gray, who came there by the ship for which the river is named, saw it during his 1790s expedition. Wahkeenah 18:46, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * You handled that well 8^) - Marshman
 * And only 5 months late. Amy must have stopped wondering by now. Wahkeenah 02:26, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Second Tallest?
Since it is clearly not the second tallest waterfall in the US, I'm unclear if the person that rewrote this article believes it is ok to perpetuate misinformation as long as it is backed up by a government brochure ? - Marshman 18:02, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

 * The claim is that it's the second tallest year-round waterfall. But is that correct? I dunno. Wahkeenah 18:39, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

A link was provided to show it was not, but text was removed that argued against the claim. I was just mildly concerned that such a massive rewrite was done (maybe needed), without enough thought (IMHO) to retaining information that was not being corrected or supplied, just removed (in this case replaced with possibly erroneous information - Marshman 23:53, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Feel free to clarify. I'm not in a writin' mood right now. Wahkeenah 02:26, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

THe link at the very bottom of the page:

http://www.world-waterfalls.com/myths.php

is a rather detailed page the clearly points out that the falls are no where near the #2 position.

I've removed the false claims that Multnomah Falls is either the second tallest year round waterfall or the tallest year round waterfall in the United States. There are 6 (six) glacially fed (i.e. permanent) waterfalls in Washington State alone which flow with equal or greater volumes of water than Multnomah Falls which are taller than Multhomah Falls. There are additionally at least a dozen more permanent waterfalls in Washington which are taller than Multnomah. The "second tallest in the US" claims stem from tourism agencies trying to make the falls seem more attractive a feature (everyone wants to see the biggest or largest of whatever they seek).

Bryan Swan |  World Waterfall Database (talk) 05:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I just edited the page to reflect the so-called "debate" regarding this issue. Mervin7 (talk) 22:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Unused GFDL image
Here is an orphaned free image: Image:Multnomah Falls.jpg. --Strangerer (Talk) 23:31, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

List or Ring links to other Gorge Falls?
Since there are other waterfalls close by, perhaps there should be a ring at the bottom of the article, from which you can go to the next waterfall in the gorge, then the next...? Tsarevna (talk) 10:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

 * It's a great suggestion. Here are those I could find articles for:
 * Bridal Veil Falls (Oregon)
 * Horsetail Falls (Oregon)
 * Latourell Falls
 * Metlako Falls
 * Oneonta Gorge
 * Punch Bowl Falls
 * Wahclella Falls
 * Wahkeena Falls
 * Here are those for which I could not find an article :
 * Shepperds Dell Falls
 * Elowah Falls
 * Upper Latourell Falls
 * Tripple Falls
 * Wah Gwin Gwin Falls

 * —EncMstr (talk) 14:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Interesting idea. The ring might be confusing. I'm thinking west-to-east would be easier to follow (or vice versa). One missing article found: Shepperd's Dell rather than Shepperds Dell Falls. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 15:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, there's a similar idea already posted in Historic Columbia River Highway. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 15:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Additional content, please
The article could be improved with expanded content about the construction of the Benson Bridge and information about the depth of the cascade pools. -- Deborahjay (talk) 18:16, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

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Founding date 1991 or 1992
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ASOS

ASOS or Asos may refer to:

 * Asos, a village in Greece
 * ASOS (retailer), a UK online fashion store
 * Association Sportive Oussou Saka, a Beninese football team
 * Automated Surface Observing System, a type of weather station
 * Air Support Operations Squadron, US Air Force, see List of United States Air Force air support operations squadrons
 * A Saucerful of Secrets, the second album by Pink Floyd

 * ASOS Brigade, a live-action fictional group to support the English dub release of the Haruhi Suzumiya anime television series.

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Talk:R. Tudur Jones

NPOV?

 * "He was the most important Christian scholar in Wales during the 20th century and is hailed as the giant of Protestantism in Wales during a century that saw Wales, as a whole, turn against its traditional reformed protestant theology."

I have some concerns about the neutrality of this article. Especially in regards to it's attitude towards liberal theology and secularisation. The article paints him as a crusader for good, whereas I have some doubt that those of a liberal/secular persuasion would be so overflowing in their praise. Protestantism contains the movement of liberalism and secularism, so it seems this is being written from POV of a conservative Protestant --Randolph 04:57, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Two separate points, both good. I think I'd argue that the most important Welsh scholar of Christianity in the twentieth century was Rowan Williams, now Archbishop of Canterbury. Perhaps something like, "He was a distinguished scholarly representative of conservative Protestantism in Wales during the Twentieth Century and is hailed as a leading exemplar of evangelicalism in Wales during a century that saw Wales, as a whole, move away from its traditional attachment to evangelical Protestantism."

 * Rowan Williams perhaps is the most "famous" theologian from Wales but i don't think it is fair to count him as a more prominent Welsh Christian Scholar beacuse Rowan Williams i.) never studied or taught at Welsh Universities or Seminary's ii.) never undertook nor published research about welsh religious history nor Welsh theology discourse. My professional opinion as a practicing theologian and church historian is that history will show R. Tudur Jones as the giant of 20th Century Welsh Christian theology - you must avail from writing history based on current news and events, everyone knows who Rowan Williams is now because he is still in office but in 50 years will it be his work or R. Tudur Jones's work will have the biggest legacy with relation to Welsh Christianity and theology? R. Tudur Jones i would argue. - Rhys

Jesus College, Oxford
Is there a reliable source that confirms that he studied there? If so, please add details so that he can be included on List of people associated with Jesus College, Oxford. Thanks, BencherliteTalk 23:09, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Don't know, but Jesus College has had a history of distinguished Welsh students. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.30.227 (talk) 23:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes, I know that, but he would need a proper reference to be included on the List (which I forgot to wikilink earlier). BencherliteTalk 10:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

 * He didn't actully attend Jesus College but he was offered a scholarship to attend, notice the sentance that follows - "His father, however, insisted that he attend the University of Wales. " Rhys —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhys Llwyd (talk • contribs) 21:21, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Fair enough, but later it says: "Then he left Bangor for Oxford where he researched for his DPhil." In fact, Rhys, you added it. Your source was...? BencherliteTalk 21:30, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Ah! Ok. He did attend Oxford (but not Jesus College though, he attended the congregationalist's college called Mansfield) for his D. Phil be he turned down the chance to do his BA there. My sources, erm, how about that i've read his Oxford D.Phil thesis and that I'm the R. Tudur Jones research scholarship holder at Bangor University's Theology Department, until my work is published you'll have to take my word for it! But seriously, I'm sure it's commented either in D. Densil Morgans chapter about R. Tudur Jones in his book 'Cedyrn Canrif' (2001) or Robert Pope's chpter about him in his book 'Codi Muriau Dinas Duw' (2005). Perhaps it's noted as well in the newly published Gwyddioniadur Cymreig, i have no copy at hand to look. - Rhys http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rhys_Llwyd —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhys Llwyd (talk • contribs) 21:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Fine - you've seen offline sources that confirm the college he attended was Mansfield, not Jesus, so I've changed the article and its categories accordingly. Thanks for clearing this one up for me! BencherliteTalk 22:27, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

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Piton des Neiges minus Piton de la Fournaise equals 544 meters.

Found by following Mauritius to Geography of Mauritius to Cargados Carajos Shoals to Mascarene Islands. --Alterego 04:58, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

Mauritius: "The island of Mauritius itself is formed around a central plateau, with its highest peak in the southwest, Piton de la Riviere Noire at 828 m." but as for the second highest... -- ALoan (Talk) 12:20, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

FreplySpang's answer
Could it be that these are two different peaks, both 828m tall, so that the answer is 0m? FreplySpang (talk) 20:27, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Mauritius asserts, "The island of Mauritius itself is formed around a central plateau, with its highest peak in the southwest, Piton de la Riviere Noire at 828 m.".
 * 2) Geography of Mauritius says "highest point: Mont Piton 828 m".

 * ''I believe both of these refers to the same mountain. Eugene van der Pijll 21:29, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

828 meters?
From Geography of Mauritius the highest point is Mont Piton at 828 meters and the second highest is the Indian Ocean at 0 meters. --Alterego 21:44, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

The answer is 432 m
Mont Piton (on the island of Mauritius) is 828 m. Mont Limon (on the island of Rodrigues, part of the Republic of Mauritius) is 396 m.  The difference is 432 m.

Found by reading the Mauritius article and going to the other islands in the Republic, including Rodrigues. The elevation of Mont Limon is noted on the map Image:Rodrigues 76.jpg. JimCollaborator «talk» 18:34, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

Alphax's answer
From Mauritius - highest peak in the southwest, Piton de la Riviere Noire at 828 m and from there to Geography of Mauritius to Image:Mauritius rel90.jpg, revealing nothing. Backtracking and trying Rodrigues reveals Image:Rodrigues 76.jpg, which has Mont Limon at 396 m. In the absence of any further information (no google searches) I will give an answer of 432 m. Alphax τεχ 16:48, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Damn! Already answered. Try another. Alphax τεχ 16:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * ''The correct answer hasn't been given yet... I don't know what you mean by "no google searches": it is allowed to use external search engines as long as you restrict the search to wikipedia. I've checked, and the answer can easily be found with an external search. Eugene van der Pijll 11:56, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Alright,
 * Is the highest point 828 metres?
 * What is the degree of separation between Mauritius and the article where the height of the second highest peak is given?
 * Alphax τεχ 09:51, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm in a good mood, so:
 * 1. Yes.
 * 2. In that direction, I believe it's 4. I'm certain that it is 1 in reverse.
 * Eugene van der Pijll 10:05, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

821 meters?
Scattered Islands in the Indian Ocean mentions that Mauritius claims Tromelin Island which has a highest elevation of 7 meters. --Alterego 16:11, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

 * ''No. All of the answers given so far, are too high. Eugene van der Pijll 21:30, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Even 0m ? Clearly there are many mountains above sea level on the island... --Alterego 00:02, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes. The second highest mountain is higher than any mountain or hill mentioned above, so the difference is lower. Eugene van der Pijll 06:19, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pieter Both
According to Mauritius, the highest mountain is Piton de la Riviere Noire at 828 m, however, according to Pieter Both, the second highest mountain is Pieter Both at 829m!? The difference here is 1m, however something here is askew. -- Thejesterx 15:34, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * that's gotta be it, considering he edited that article :) (-1 meter is probably what he was waiting for) --Alterego 15:38, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * ''Yep. Fortunately for Thejesterx (and unfortunately for you), I'll accept +1 meter as well. When I wrote the article, I got the height from a google search; it may well be wrong. According to other pages, its height is 820 or 823 m. Eugene van der Pijll 16:01, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * lol i wasn't trying to steal his mojo =) --Alterego 17:07, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)

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Pelorus (instrument)

In marine navigation, a pelorus is a reference tool for maintaining bearing of a vessel at sea. It is a "simplified compass" without a directive element, suitably mounted and provided with vanes to permit observation of relative bearings.

The instrument was named for one Pelorus, said to have been the pilot for Hannibal, circa 203 BC.

Ancient use
Harold Gatty described the use of a pelorus by Polynesians before the use of a compass. In equatorial waters the nightly course of stars overhead is nearly uniform during the year. This regularity simplified navigation for the Polynesians using a pelorus, or dummy compass:

"[Arabs] divided the horizon into 32 points. These points were derived from fifteen stars which rose at approximately equally spaced points of the eastern horizon. The setting points of these stars on the western horizon gave them another fifteen points and north and south brought the total to thirty two.

These accomplished navigators [Polynesians] had names for one hundred and fifty stars. They knew the point on the horizon where each of these rose, and the time at which it did so. They knew the islands which each passed over.

Many of the peoples in the Pacific used the thirty two point dummy compass…I consider this…proof of the Indo-Malayan origin of the Polynesians."

- Harold Gatty

Reading from North to South, in their rising and setting positions, these stars are:
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! Point ! Star The true position of these stars is only approximate to their theoretical equidistant rhumbs on the sidereal compass. Over time, the elaboration of the pelorus points led to the modern compass rose.
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 * N || Polaris
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 * NbE || "the Guards" (Ursa Minor)
 * - valign="top"
 * NNE || Alpha Ursa Major
 * - valign="top"
 * NEbN ||Alpha Cassiopeiae
 * - valign="top"
 * NE || Capella
 * - valign="top"
 * NEbE || Vega
 * - valign="top"
 * ENE || Arcturus
 * - valign="top"
 * EbN || the Pleiades
 * - valign="top"
 * E || Altair
 * - valign="top"
 * EbS || Orion's belt
 * - valign="top"
 * ESE || Sirius
 * - valign="top"
 * SEbE || Beta Scorpionis
 * - valign="top"
 * SE || Antares
 * - valign="top"
 * SEbS || Alpha Centauri
 * - valign="top"
 * SSE || Canopus
 * - valign="top"
 * SbE || Achernar
 * - valign="top"
 * S|| Southern Cross
 * }

Modern use
In appearance and use, a pelorus resembles a compass or compass repeater, with sighting vanes or a sighting telescope attached, but it has no directive properties. That is, it remains at any relative direction to which it is set. It is generally used by setting 000° at the lubber's line. Relative bearings are then observed. They can be converted to bearings true, magnetic, grid, etc., by adding the appropriate heading. The direct use of relative bearings is sometimes of value. A pelorus is useful, for instance, in determining the moment at which an aid to navigation is broad on the beam. It is also useful in measuring pairs of relative bearings which can be used to determine distance off and distance abeam of a navigational aid.

If the true heading is set at the lubber's line, true bearings are observed directly. Similarly, compass bearings can be observed if the compass heading is set at the lubber's line, etc. However, the vessel must be on the heading to which the pelorus is set if accurate results are to be obtained, or else a correction must be applied to the observed results. Perhaps the easiest way of avoiding error is to have the steersman indicate when the vessel is on course. This is usually done by calling out "mark, mark, mark" as long as the vessel is within a specified fraction of a degree of the desired heading. The observer, who is watching a distant object across the pelorus, selects an instant when the vessel is steady and is on course. An alternative method is to have the observer call out "mark" when the relative bearing is steady, and the steersman note the heading. If the compass is swinging at the moment of observation, the observation should be rejected. The number of degrees between the desired and actual headings is added if the vessel is to the right of the course, and subtracted if to the left. Thus, if the course is 060° and the heading is 062° at the moment of observation, a correction of 2° is added to the bearing.

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Delete as vanity. FreplySpang (talk) 04:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Terra Nostra (TV series)

Terra Nostra (Our Land) is a Brazilian telenovela, produced and broadcast by TV Globo in 1999. The telenovela is written by Benedito Ruy Barbosa and directed by Jayme Monjardim.

The story is set in the late 19th century and takes place at a time when slaves were freed in Brazil and there was a need for workers, especially on Brazilian coffee fazendas (plantations). This partly resulted in many Italians migrating to Brazil, looking for employment and a better life. Unlike many other telenovela stories, the characters are not larger than life in "Terra Nostra." Instead, they are everyday people who make ordinary decisions. Consequently, the viewers can relate to what is happening in the story.

Musical director Marcus Viana compiled several traditional Italian songs, performed by musicians such as Charlotte Church, Caetano Veloso, Zizi Possi, and Jerry Adriani. The soundtrack also includes original instrumental music by Viana.

Plot
The telenovela takes place in Brazil between the end of nineteenth century and early twentieth century. This historical telenovela tells the story of these Italian immigrants. It focuses on the relationship of Giuliana Esplendore (Ana Paula Arosío) and Matteo Batistela (Thiago Lacerda) who meet each other during the voyage to Brazil. Most of the story takes place in a coffee farm in São Paulo.

Giuliana and Matteo immediately fall in love and plan a life together. Unfortunately, fate and some people do not plan it that way. A series of mishaps befall the couple and keep them apart. When they finally reunite, their conduct affects not only their lives, but also other people they have met along the way.

After docking, Giuliana and Matteo became lost and followed different paths. She is welcomed by Francesco (Raul Cortez), a banker millionaire friend of his deceased parents. Francesco is married to Jeanett, an haughty and arrogant woman, and father of Marco Antonio, a bon vivant.

Matteo meanwhile works on the farm of Gumercindo (Antonio Fagundes), a coffee baron who is married to Maria do Socorro. While he is a loving father to his daughter Angélica, he is cruel to his other daughter, Rosana (Carolina Kasting).

Marco Antonio, son of Francesco, falls madly in love with Giuliana, who rejects him in her determination to find her love, Matteo. However, when she discovers Matteo is expecting a son, Marco Antonio there sees the chance to be with her. Marco asks Giuliana to marry him and, in fear, she accepts.

Meanwhile, on the farm of Gumercindo, Matteo's charm enchants Angélica and Rosana. While Angélica is a shy girl, Rosana is impulsive and has strong personality. Rosana invests in Matteo despite being repeatedly rejected by him. However, to force Matteo to marry her, Rosana seduces Matteo and makes love with him. To Angélica Angelica join the convent, Gumercindo accepts the wedding proposal of Augusto, a young man with dreams of becoming a politician.

Augusto, however, maintains an affair with Paola, a beautiful and fiery Italian who arrived in the same ship that Matteo and Giuliana had. Anacleto, her father, forces Augusto to take responsibility of Paola and Augusto and purchases a home for her in São Paulo, living together without being married. Subsequently Angélica and Augusto marry and move to São Paulo, and Paola becomes Angelica's friend. In realizing that Augusto is happily married, Paola relinquishes her hope of marrying him.

Gumercindo approaches Francesco with a business proposition. At this point, Matteo is already married with Rosana, with whom he is expecting a son, and Giuliana had a daughter, Annie, with Marco. But when the real desires of Giuliana and Matteo's son is uncovered, the marriage of Francesco and Jeanette falls apart, and Giuliana also separates from Marco.

The story concludes with Giuliana marrying Matteo and them expecting a child together, and Matteo adopts Aniña.

Moral issues arise which produce fruitful debate for the television viewers. There are no simple answers because none of the characters or issues are strictly right or wrong, black or white. The issues and personalities are gray and will cause the viewers to change their minds during the storyline.

Cast

 * Ana Paula Arósio as Giuliana Splendore
 * Thiago Lacerda as Matteo Battistella
 * Carolina Kasting as Rosana Telles de Aranha
 * Marcello Antony as Marco Antônio Magliano
 * Antônio Fagundes as Gumercindo Telles de Aranha
 * Débora Duarte as Maria do Socorro Teles de Aranha
 * Raul Cortez as Francesco Magliano
 * Ângela Vieira as Janete Magliano
 * Maria Fernanda Cândido as Paola
 * Paloma Duarte as Angélica Telles de Aranha
 * Gabriel Braga Nunes as Augusto Marcondes
 * Antônio Calloni as Bartolo Migliavacca
 * Lu Grimaldi as Leonora
 * Cláudia Raia as Hortênsia
 * Odilon Wagner as Altino Marcondes
 * Elias Gleizer as Padre Olavo
 * Raymundo de Souza as Renato
 * Roberto Bonfim as Agente Justino
 * Jackson Antunes as Antenor
 * José Dumont as Batista
 * André Luiz Miranda as Júlio Francisco Santana (Tiziu)
 * Débora Olivieri as Inês
 * Danton Mello as Bruno
 * Tânia Bondezan as Mariana
 * Gésio Amadeu as Damião
 * Mário César Camargo as Anacleto
 * Adriana Lessa as Naná
 * Fernanda Muniz as Luísa
 * Adhenor de Souza as Juvenal
 * Sônia Zagury as Antônia
 * Fábio Dias as Amadeo
 * Paulo de Almeida as Toninho
 * Bianca Castanho as Florinda
 * Guilherme Bernard as José Alceu
 * Juan Alba as Josué
 * Tarciana Saad as Matilde
 * Lolita Rodrigues as Dolores
 * Nicolas Prattes as Francesquinho

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Gérard Pape

Gérard Pape (born April 22, 1955 in Brooklyn, New York) is a composer of electronic music, author, and Lacanian psychologist. He is a former student of David Winkler, George Cacioppo, William Albright, and George Balch Wilson. He became the director of Les Ateliers UPIC (now CCMIX) in 1991 and in 2015 authored a French-English bi-lingual book Musipoesc: Writings About Music that was published by Éditions Michel de Maule. Pape has lived and worked in France since the early 1990s.

Biography
Gérard Pape studied clinical psychology and music simultaneously at the University of Michigan, and is a practicing Lacanian psychoanalyst as well as a composer. After moving to France at the beginning of the 1990s, his compositions came under the influence of the Mexican composer Julio Estrada. Estrada shares with Pape an interest in psychoanalysis and focuses on what he calls "sound fantasies"—fantasies that occur "inside the head of the composer and take the form of sequences of sounds". Pape extended Estrada's conception by treating chaos as a formal concept. For example, in his opera-in-progress, Weaveworld, Pape "employs sudden and unpredictable patterns in streams of sound in a plasma that draws from chaos models". The tape part for Makbénach I and III convolves "timbre paths", made from chains of sampled saxophone sounds, together with a dense series of grains following particular trajectories (produced by a computer program called Cloud Generator), in order to produce timbral transformations.

Pape's 1995 chamber opera Monologue uses as text the Samuel Beckett play A Piece of Monologue. His most important work is Feu toujours vivant for large orchestra and 4 sampler keyboards (1997), which was commissioned by Art Zoyd and the Orchestre national de Lille, conducted by Jean-Claude Casadesus.

In 2007, Gerard Pape created the CLSI ensemble (Circle for the Liberation of Sounds & Images) with various musicians and composers such as Olga Krashenko, Paul Méfano, Jacqueline Méfano, Lissa Meridan, Michael Kinney, Martin Phelps, Rodolphe Bourotte, Stefan Tiedje, and Jean-Baptiste Favory.

Orchestra

 * Cosmos, symphony for large orchestra and tape (1985)
 * Three Faces of Death, for orchestra (1988–89)
 * Feu toujours vivant, for large orchestra and four samplers (1997)

Opera and musical theater

 * Ivan and Rena (text: Gérard Pape), music drama for reciter, three vocal soloists, orchestra, and tape (1983–84)
 * A Little Girl Dreams of Taking the Veil, surrealist opera for tape and slides; texts and slides by Max Ernst (1990)
 * Monologue, chamber opera based on Samuel Beckett’s play, A Piece of Monologue, for bass voice and eight-channel tape (1995)
 * Weaveworld (in progress), after the novel by Clive Barker
 * Battle, for four vocal soloists and tape (1996),
 * Weaveworld Prologue, for bass, flute, oboe, clarinet, bassoon, trumpet, trombone, horn, percussion, 2 violins, viola, cello, contrabass (1998)
 * Les Cenci, opera in four acts, for seven vocal soloists, orchestra of 24 flutes, three percussionists, tape, and live electronics (text: Antonin Artaud) (2000– )

Chamber music (with or without electronics)

 * Soundbook, for instruments and live electronics (1982)
 * Tableaux, for acoustic and electronic instruments (1983)
 * In Memoriam: George Cacioppo, for eight trombones, two percussionists, and tape (1984)
 * String Quartet No. 2 "Vortex" (1988–89)
 * X-Stasis, for ensemble and tape (1992)
 * Le Fleuve du désir III, for string quartet and tape (1994)
 * Le Fleuve du désir IV, for eight solo violins, or one violin, tape, and live electronics (1994/2002)
 * Makbénach I, for saxophone, ensemble, and tape (1996)
 * Makbénach II, for saxophone and ensemble (1996)

Solo instrument (with electronics)

 * Recordare, for soprano recorder, live electronics, and tape (1984)
 * Cerberus, for organ and tape (1987)
 * That Burning Thing, for flute and tape (1989)
 * Le Fleuve du désir V, for violin, tape, and live electronics (1994)
 * Le Fleuve du désir VI, for viola, tape, and live electronics (1994)
 * Le Fleuve du désir VII, for cello, tape, and live electronics (1994)
 * Le Fleuve du désir VIII, for contrabass, tape, and live electronics (1994)
 * Makbénach III, for saxophone, live electronics, and tape (1996)
 * Makbénach IV, for trombone, live electronics, and tape (1998)
 * Aquarelles, for basset horn doubling clarinet, tape, and live electronics (1999)
 * La Naissance du son, for amplified cello (2002)
 * For Maurizio, for amplified viola (2003)
 * Ascension au Purgatoire, for percussion and computer (2004)

Vocal music

 * Pour un Tombeau d'Anatole, for voice, saxophones, and percussion (1984)
 * Catachresis, for soprano and chamber orchestra (1987)
 * La Tristesse de la lune (text: Charles Baudelaire), for baritone, soprano (pre-recorded), and tape (1986)
 * Two Electro-Acoustic Songs for soprano, flute, and tape; poems by Dahlia Ravicovitch (1993)
 * Funeral Sentences, for two sopranos, percussionist, and live electronics (1998)
 * The Ecstasy of St. Theresa (homage to Bernini) (text: St. Theresa of Ávila), for nine mixed voices and live electronics (2001)

Electronic music

 * Triple Requiem, for multiple tapes and turntables (1982)
 * Dreamwake (texts: Gérard Pape), for tape (1984)
 * Resonance, for tape (1984)
 * Prélude Electronique, for tape (1992)
 * Variations Varèsiennes, for tape (1992)
 * Le Fleuve du désir II. for UPIC-generated tape (1994)
 * Fabula, for eight-channel tape (1999)
 * Mon autre Peau, installation for 20-channel tape and DVD (based on paintings by Ana-Paula Portilla with digital video by Anney Bonney; texts by Ana-Paula Portilla, Parmenides, and the Upanishads) (1999)
 * Tantric Transformations, for eight-channel tape and digital video; video by Anney Bonney (2000)
 * Clouds for six-channel tape (2002)

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Appius Claudius Pulcher (consul 143 BC)

Appius Claudius Pulcher (Latin: APP•CLAVDIVS•C•F•APP•N•PVLCHER ) was a Roman politician of the 2nd century BC.

Life
Son of Gaius Claudius Pulcher (who was consul in 177 BC), he was elected consul for 143 BC, and, to obtain a pretext for a triumph, attacked the Salassi, an Alpine tribe. He was at first defeated, but afterwards, following the directions of the Sibylline Books, gained a victory. On his return the celebration of the triumph was refused; but he held a triumph at his own expense, and when one of the tribunes attempted to drag him from his car, his daughter Claudia, one of the Vestal Virgins, walked by his side up to the capital. Next year he was an unsuccessful candidate for the censorship, though he afterwards held that office with Quintus Fulvius Nobilior, probably in 136 BC. He allied with Tiberius Gracchus who married his daughter Claudia. Appius backed Tiberius' land reform bill and in 133 BC with Tiberius and Tiberius' brother, Gaius Gracchus, was chosen commissioner for the division of the lands. Their post allowed them to survey the ager publicus, publicly owned land that Tiberius wanted to distribute to citizens who had lost their property. Another faction in the Senate opposed them and Tiberius was assassinated in 133 BC. Appius was the enemy of Scipio Aemilianus. He died shortly after Tiberius Gracchus, probably in 130 BC. He was one of the Salii, an augur, and princeps senatus. Cicero says that his style of speaking was fluent and vehement. He married Antistia. His great-granddaughter was Clodia.

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Braidwood

Braidwood may refer to:

People

 * Braidwood (surname)

Places

 * Braidwood, New South Wales, Australia
 * Braidwood, South Lanarkshire, Scotland
 * Braidwood, Illinois, United States of America

Things

 * Braidwood Inquiry - an inquiry into a Taser incident in Vancouver, Canada
 * Braidwood Nuclear Generating Station, Illinois, United States of America
 * Braidwood - An abandoned Intel project, successor to Intel Turbo Memory

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Request
It would be nice for a knowledgeable person to create an article on tracker organs. This article mentions them with no definition. The current tracker article concerns music software, but has a link to a disambiguation page with a single sentence definition of tracker organs. --Blainster 05:02, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Added a link to Tracker action article on 2008-04-22 – Dhadams (talk) 16:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Article Cleanup
The last section of this article is just a massive wall of text. A few images and paragraph breaks/formatting would do this article a service. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.158.119.137 (talk) 05:39, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I assume that you refer to the "Some Significant Casavant Organs" section, in which the significance of the organs listed has not been treated. Each should have its own referenced paragraph to describe its significance, beginning with uniform identification, say, , . Dhadams (talk) 00:10, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

This is not in reference to this section, but to a section that I removed - see the red text in this link, which clearly exceeded the recordings category. Rohrwerk (talk) 03:59, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Don't understand why recordings list not appropriate - they document the builder's work in sound. Section on recordings could indeed be improved and annotated, but removing it simply because the subject is not a recording artist is not appropriate. Rohrwerk (talk) 04:15, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

May 2011 - Per the suggestion above, I'm completing work to supply Opus numbers and dates for all the instruments currently on the "Signficant organs" list. I've also provided links to specifications and other information where I could find something. I did not purposefully delete any information or entries. I agree that this list still needs documention as to why the instruments are "significant" while others not on the list are not. I especially note that except for one listing for Mexico, there are no entries for any organs outside the US/Canada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.55.104 (talk) 19:07, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

May 2011 - Completed the work described above, supplying as much information as I could find and also reodrering the list by Opus number. I can't find any information on the last intrument on the list other than a reference to their Casavant on the church's website. Suggest removal from the list unless someone can provide a reason for it's inclusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.55.104 (talk) 19:09, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Extended article on Gould recording inappropriate
The contribution of a long, poorly written paragraph on the Casavant organ used in the Glenn Gould recording of the Art of Fugue is out of place in a listing of recordings. Additional irrelevant information on details of the building's construction and the fire also strays far off the article topic. It does not even give proper bibliographic data for the recording in question! It should be completely deleted. Rohrwerk (talk) 16:28, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Removed off-topic information and added current recording reference Rohrwerk (talk) 17:49, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

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Appius Claudius Pulcher (consul 79 BC)

Appius Claudius Pulcher (c. 129 BC – 76 BC) was a Roman noble, general and politician of the 1st century BC. He was the father of a number of renowned Romans, most notable: the infamous Clodius and Clodia.

Biography
There is uncertainty about who his father was. It was most probably the Appius Claudius Pulcher who was consul in 143 BC. He was a supporter of Lucius Cornelius Sulla and served as praetor in 88 BC. He was exiled in that year by Gaius Marius while Sulla was away in the east. He returned to Rome after Lucius Cornelius Cinna died in 84 BC, and served as consul in 79 BC and as governor of Roman Macedonia from 78 BC to 76 BC.

Family
Appius Claudius Pulcher was likely married to a Caecilia Metella (a daughter of Balearicus), although this is not universally agreed upon, T. P. Wiseman believes that his wife was a Servilia Caepione (it is known that there was a Servilia around this time that was the wife of a Pulcher, but it is not known who either of them were). Jeffrey Tatum thinks that there is too little information to be sure either way.

He had six known children:
 * Appius Claudius Pulcher (consul of 54 BC)
 * Gaius Claudius Pulcher
 * Publius Claudius Pulcher, who changed his name to Clodius
 * Claudia Tertia, who married Quintus Marcius Rex
 * Claudia (also known as Clodia), the wife of Quintus Caecilius Metellus Celer
 * Claudia (c. 90 BC – after 66 BC), first wife of Lucius Licinius Lucullus, whom she divorced in 66 BC

T. P. Wiseman also speculated that Clodia the wife of Aulus Ofilius may have been one of his daughters.

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AMC computerized engine control

The Computerized Engine Control or Computerized Emission Control (CEC) system is an engine management system designed and used by American Motors Corporation (AMC) and Jeep on 4- and 6-cylinder engines of its own manufacture from 1980 to 1990. It is one of the three major components for proper engine operation: the computer, electrically controlled carburetor, and the oxygen sensor in the exhaust system.

Starting with the 1986 model year, the AMC straight-4 engines used a throttle body injection (TBI) or single-point, fuel injection system with a new fully computerized engine control. In addition to cycling the fuel injector (pulse-width time, on–off), the engine control computer also determined the ignition timing, idle speed, exhaust gas recirculation, etc.

Operation
The AMC Computerized Engine Control is an electronic fuel feedback system is similar to those used by other automakers at the time by controlling the amount of gasoline to be atomized by the carburetor by precise electronic calculations. The AMC CEC was unique in that almost all of its sensors and actuators were digital; instead of the usual analog throttle position, coolant temperature, intake temperature, and manifold pressure sensors, it used a set of fixed pressure- and temperature-controlled switches (as well as a wide-open throttle switch on the carburetor) to control fuel mixture and ignition timing. The only analog sensor in the system was the oxygen sensor. In other respects, it was a typical "feedback" carburetor system of the early-1980s, using a stepper motor to control fuel mixture and a two-stage "Sole-Vac" (which used a solenoid for one stage, and a vacuum motor for the other) to control idle speed. The CEC also controlled ignition timing using information from the fuel-control section and an engine knock sensor on the intake manifold.

The CEC module itself (the most common version of which is the "AMC MCU Super-D") was manufactured for AMC by Ford Motor Company, and worked with a Duraspark ignition system. Although built by Ford, the CEC module is not related to the Ford EEC systems internally.

The AMC CEC went through at least four revisions.
 * The first included a "Check Engine" light.
 * The second included new process cycles with electric timing retard and the added "Pulse-Air" injection system for emissions control.
 * The third version was updated in 1983 to a new style called the C4 system which used a new microcontroller. The 1983 model year, the 258 CID I6 engine featured the MCU-Super D electronics, "Pulse-Air", and an increased compression ratio, from 8.6:1 to 9.2:1.
 * The fourth version followed shortly.

Maintenance
The system uses a maze of emissions vacuum hoses. Because of the many vacuum-driven components and electrical connections in the system, CEC-equipped engines have developed a reputation of being hard to tune. American Motors issued a Technical Service Bulletin to diagnose low or inconsistent engine idle speeds on 1980 through 1988 AMC Eagle automobile.

The 49-state model of the CEC has no on-board diagnostic system, making it difficult to monitor the computer's operation without a breakout box, and the Carter BBD carburetor on most CEC-equipped models has problems with its idle circuit clogging, causing a rough idle and stalling. In places where emissions testing is not required, a modification is by bypassing the computer and disabling the BBD's Idle Servo, or replacing the BBD with a manually tuned carburetor. Several vendors (including Chrysler and Edelbrock) offer retrofit kits that replace the CEC and the carburetor with fuel injection.

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User talk:Piyrwq

Welcome to Wikipedia!!!
I'm new and possibly confused. Does each user get their own article? This can't be right... I see now, I get a talk page... I'll just continue to talk to myself then.. ok I'm bored. later skater.

$${Pp \over Po} = k + (1-k)e^(-bp)$$

Solubility pump
Hi Ryan. I've just been going through some of my pages and I noticed (finally) that you removed some text I'd written re: alkalinity on the solubility pump page. Although I do deal in alkalinity now and again (I'm a biogeochemical modeller), it's to the edge of my comfort zone, and I'd imagine you're much more of an expert than I am on it. Anyway, I've added the bit you excised again because I'd like to say something about what alkalinity actually is on top of introducing TCO2, TALK, pH and pCO2 for a measurement prespective on things. Just wanted to let you know in case you're wondering what I'm up to. I'd be grateful for any input onto the page. Cheers, --Plumbago 13:25, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi again. Thanks for your note on my talk page.  I think you're right about the scarcity of ocean chemists, so just as well you're here!  I have to admit though that, on the whole, the Wikipedia seems reasonably well serviced by scientists.  In particular, some of the physics and maths articles I've looked have been really quite good (and also worth visiting to rip-off equations for formating!).  To return to my prose, however, it sounds like your attention might be required back with my efforts at explaining alkalinity.  I reinstated with only quite minor edits, so I might well be misleading the public again (I'm pretty sure I am re: Na+).  I'll have a look at your edits to alkalinity when you get round to them and try to re-word my text where appropriate (or hack it out entirely and just point to your improved alkalinity).  Cheers, --Plumbago 13:02, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

TOC Question
Hey Ryan, I'm a fellow water chemist... Im not sure if you have resolved your TOC question or not, but the TOC is quantified in most TOC analyzers by measuring gasous CO2 via Nondispersive Infared (NDIR) Absorbance using a light source and a beam chopper assembly to select the proper wavelength. The CO2 is formed by either combustion/persulfate reaction to remove TIC from TC. Hope this answers your question... Kris Sterichinderance 07:16, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your help Kris, my comments where actually made just to point out a logical error that has been fixed from sometime now. As I don't know to much about TOC, I was hesitant to fix it myself.

Seawater composition
I'm using this site to learn how to make a table:

 * Just a short tip. You can create your own sandbox. For example, User:Username/Sandbox will create a subpage, which will link back to your userpage. Thus, User:Piyrwq/Sandbox will lead to your sandbox page. The rules for creating subpages under your user page is quite liberal. It is OK to do so to test how to make a table or such. The talk pages is not intended for testing new things. vidarlo 18:49, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Seawater pH
Hi there Piyrwq. I notice that you removed a statement about the free scale from the seawater section of the pH article. I'm sure there was a good reason but there wasn't an edit summary to explain. I thought that the statement was useful as it clarified a weakness of the free scale, but I'm no chemist so I'd be grateful to know what was wrong about it. Cheers, --Plumbago 22:04, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Plumbago, You've promted me to take a good review of the scales. I've put the sentence back in, having decided it was more accurate than I originally though, but the problem I have with it is that it states Kso4* is poorly estimated in seawater. I think its is relatively well know for seawater, but poorly known in low ionic strength solutions. See the second paragraph on pg 110 of Dickson 1993 (pH Buffers..., Deep Sea Research I). I don't have internet access to Dickson 1990a (Standard Potential..., Journal of Chemical Thermodynamics), where he goes into more detail so it'll take me a couple days figure this out a little more precisely. I'll let you know what I find. I think the subsection is otherwise excellent. --Piyrwq 15:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Hi Piyrwq. Thanks for all of your efforts.  According to Zeebe & Wolf-Gladrow (2001), KS* is the stability constant for HSO4- rather than SO42- - could that explain the confusion about stability?  Or am I showing my great chemical ignorance by even suggesting that?  Regarding the 1990 Dickson reference, somewhat annoyingly my university only has the journal available from 1995 onwards.  Otherwise I'd offer to get it for you.

 * On the subsection's quality, I can only say that Zeebe & Wolf-Gladrow do such an excellent job in describing the pH system that it was really rather easy to distill the detail of the system down to the slender overview I added to the page. It's actually been a really useful experience for me to do it.  Ordinarily I would have run a mile when asked about the free/total scales, but now I can converse quite reasonably on the subject.  Although it's hardly good cocktail party repartee!  ;-)  Cheers, --Plumbago 16:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

 * ok... so I've taken a look at it now. Firstly, by Kso4* I meant KS* which is stability constant that defines the equilibrium between SO4- and HSO42-, so we're on the same page there.  As to why pHT is used over pHF; it appears that KS* estimations require a knowledge of single ion activity coefficients(which, according to Bates, 1975 is a "Bete Noir" of solution chemistry -I had to laugh when I read that).  It seems KS* is reasonably well descibed for seawater - but not so accurately that calculating pHF leads to an answer that is equally as accurate as pHT. In light of this, left your original sentence in and never plan on looking into these detail again (Dickson 1990 is not an easy read!).

Fair use rationale for Image:HEMSLogo.jpg
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pH
Hi Piyrwq. Further to your note on my talkpage, I've uploaded these two images to the Wikicommons …

Please use them as you see fit. I'm going to gradually update my GLODAP and WOA images to take account of the WOA 2005 climatology, but thought you'd like these ones first. Best regards, --P LUMBAGO 08:19, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

 * Hi again. Further to the above, I've gradually started substituting new plots for my old ones.  You can see how far I've got here.  Best regards, --P LUMBAGO  07:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

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Belle Shore Apartment Hotel

The Belle Shore Apartment Hotel is a building of the Bryn Mawr Historic District in the far-north community area of Edgewater in Chicago, Illinois. Located on West Bryn Mawr Avenue, it is across the road from the Bryn Mawr Apartment Hotel. It was declared a historic Chicago Landmark by the Chicago City Council.

title: Belle Shore Apartment Hotel