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Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 April 15

April 15

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 17:42, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Category:Tranportation in Ottawa-Carleton Region

 * misnamed and empty. Burgundavia 04:42, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Keep category:Elections in the Republic of Ireland and delete category:Elections in Ireland. --Kbdank71 13:37, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Category:Elections in the Republic of Ireland
Only one article in category, replaced by Category:Elections in Ireland --BaronLarf 01:00, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Keep category:Elections in the Republic of Ireland and delete category:Elections in Ireland. — Instantnood 08:04, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC) 13:37, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * agree with Instantnood (checks temperature). Keep Category:Elections in the Republic of Ireland, delete category:Elections in Ireland. Grutness|hello? [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 08:01, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment Should we use full country names or their commonly-known shortforms? Most of our country categorisations are by the later, except in controversial and potentially confusing cases related to China and Congo?--Huaiwei 10:49, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * This case is controversial and potentially confusing. Ireland is the island, Republic of Ireland is the country and Northern Ireland is well... a seperate administrative region of the United Kingdom in the northern part of the island of Ireland. If we keep category:Elections in Ireland we should add articles on Northern Irish elections (see my vote / alternative suggestion below). -- Lochaber 12:04, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I see now. then its a Keep for category:Elections in the Republic of Ireland and a delete for category:Elections in Ireland.--Huaiwei 07:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep category:Elections in the Republic of Ireland and delete category:Elections in Ireland. Oliver Chettle 23:42, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Category:Elections in the Republic of Ireland and migrate articles from Category:Elections in Ireland then delete (though I'm not sure that the Category:Political parties in Ireland should really be migrated b/c it has articles on NI parties). Alternatively I would support making Category:Elections in the Republic of Ireland a subcat of Category:Elections in Ireland, moving the Republic of Ireland specific articles into it and keeping Category:Political parties in Ireland as another subcat of Category:Elections in Ireland. -- Lochaber 12:04, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment There are two problems with Category:Elections in the Republic of Ireland: first, the articles on the elections in 1918 and 1921 cover the whole island as they led to the 1st and 2nd Dail; second is that the 26 counties only became a republic in the 1940s. --Henrygb 21:31, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: How could this be solved in your opinion? Perhaps we can keep the pre-1940s entries at category:Elections in Ireland, or follow the way of presentation like "category:History of Ireland 1801-1922". — Instantnood 19:33, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Looks like the consensus is to delete category:Elections in Ireland and move the articles to Category:Elections in the Republic of Ireland.  I've removed the cfd notice from Category:Elections in the Republic of Ireland, but there was no notice on category:Elections in Ireland, so I added it and will wait 3 days before making the move.  --Kbdank71 17:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 17:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sub-categories of Category:Italian-Americans
Per the listings below for unnecessary sub-categories of Jewish people:

 * Category:Italian-American actors
 * Category:Italian-American anarchists
 * Category:Italian-American artists
 * Category:Italian-American businessmen
 * Category:Italian-American composers
 * Category:Italian-American criminals
 * Category:Italian-American entertainers
 * Category:Italian-American film directors
 * Category:Italian-American film producers
 * Category:Italian-American media figures
 * Category:Italian-American musicians
 * Category:Italian-American politicians
 * Category:Italian-American scientists
 * Category:Italian-American sportspeople
 * Category:Italian-American writers

If any of these groupings should exist, it should be in list article form, not as categories. Delete all. Postdlf 22:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all. --Kbdank71 16:46, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all -- Viajero 17:55, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all as lately these "categories by ethnicity" are getting out of hand. IZAK 06:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was rename --Kbdank71 18:11, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Category:Famous streets in Washington, D.C. and Category:Famous California streets
If it ain't famous, it ain't gonna have an article. Rename both to "Streets in...", ala Category:Streets in New York City. However, the parent is named Category:Roads in the United States. I'm unaware of any significant semantic difference between "street" and "road" so I don't really care which one it follows, just as long as the "famous" is dropped from these two. Postdlf 22:12, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Agree. The categories are useful, but the names are inappropriate. Drop "famous". -Willmcw 07:03, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was speedy rename --Kbdank71 18:33, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Category:Symptom
Should be in plural form -> Category:Symptoms --Hooperbloob 13:45, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't this now qualify for speedy renaming? RedWolf 06:39, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yep. I'll add it to the Speedy rename section.  --Kbdank71 18:33, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Same applies to Category:Sign (medicine). Let's change the whole lot. JFW | T@lk  16:51, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Note that this category does not have a CFD tag and thus is not officially nominated at this point. I would recommend something like Category:Medical signs to drop the parenthesis. Or maybe even Category:Medical indications although I'm not totally certain if sign == indication in medical terms. RedWolf 06:39, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Right you are, RedWolf. If someone wants to nominate Category:Sign (medicine), please feel free.  --Kbdank71 18:33, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was delete. --Kbdank71 14:15, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Category:Austrian Jews
(An orphan. All the info is in List of Austrian Jews already.)

Category:British Jews
(An orphan, all the information is in List of British Jews already)

Category:Dutch Jews
(An orphan. The information can be placed in Category:Jewish Dutch history.)

Category:Italian Jews
(An orphan. Information can be found in Category:Jewish Italian history.)

Category:Jewish Romanians
(An orphan. Information can be added into List of Jewish Romanians.)

Category:Russian Jews
(All the information is in List of Russian Jews which it duplicates.)
 * Note: In fairness, there was a Vote to Delete this sub-category when it was named "Category:Jewish Russian people" during Dec '04-Jan '05. The vote was to "Keep" and rename to "Category:Russian Jews". See Category talk:Russian Jews. However, the proliferation of "Jewish people" categories should allow re-thinking of the desirability of having so many duplicate sources on Wikipedia (part of the "List vs. Categ" debate in some way). Meaning, Russian Jews are already on their "List" and that list is part of Category:Lists of Jews, so they are in the categories already, and thus this category is a duplicate. IZAK 10:45, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * No vote. Mixed feelings on whether a category adds anything to a list here, but Russian Jewish culture and identity are distinct enough from Russian culture and identity as to constitute a viable category. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:24, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)

Category:Spanish Jews
(Orphan. Information to be added to Category:Jewish Spanish history.)

Category:Jewish Americans
(Excessive repeat of all information to be found in Category:Lists of Jewish Americans and in List of Jewish Americans.)

Category:Jewish American artists
(Excessive repeat of all information to be found in Category:Lists of Jewish Americans and in List of Jewish American artists.)

Category:Jewish American economists
(Excessive repeat of all information to be found in Category:Lists of Jewish Americans and in List of Jewish American academics.)

Category:Jewish American musicians
(Excessive repeat of all information to be found in Category:Lists of Jewish Americans and in List of Jewish American musicians.)

Category:Jewish American philosophers
(Excessive repeat of all information to be found in Category:Lists of Jewish Americans and in List of Jewish American academics.)

Category:Jewish American politicians
(Excessive repeat of all information to be found in Category:Lists of Jewish Americans and in List of Jewish American political figures.)

Category:Jewish American scientists
(Excessive repeat of all information to be found in Category:Lists of Jewish Americans and in List of Jewish American scientists.)

Category:Jewish American writers
(Excessive repeat of all information to be found in Category:Lists of Jewish Americans and in List of Jewish American writers.)

 * Delete all the above. The splintering of categories about Jewish people is getting out of hand, and must be tightened. Too many "frivolous categories" (as in "Frivolous lawsuits") for Jews are being created on Wikipedia. The above sub-categories about Jews (many of whom did not even care to be identified as such!) are proposed for deletion because they are either empty/orphans, or their contents can correctly be found in other similar categories Category:Lists of Jews of lists -- or of Category:Lists of Jewish Americans, or they are basically duplicates of "List" articles in categories by country such as Category:Jewish Spanish history that can include the information. IZAK 09:09, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete all. I would question the use of categorizing people by ethnicity, religion, etc., at all unless this was something the people themselves considered important (e.g., Benjamin Disraeli, Baruch Spinoza, but not Sarah Jessica Parker.)  I am involved in similar issues related to Norwegian-Americans, and the list is sparse because at some point it becomes meaningless.  Karl Rumsfeld may have Norwegian ancestry, but it isn't useful in any respect.  --Leifern 11:04, 2005 Apr 15 (UTC)
 * If the information is there in lists already, then delete' the categories. Grutness|hello? [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 11:07, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all. --Kbdank71 13:12, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Once I was a supporter of these, but changed my mind for several reasons. Mikkalai 14:57, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Too narrow; next we'll have Category:20th century Jewish American writers, then Category:20th century Jewish American Science Fiction writers, then. And even though there are at least two dozen successful authors who would fit that last category, it's still too narrow. Jayjg (talk)  16:32, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Most of these categories are just the product of a fact that one person is both Jewish and [something else]. Little more is gained from these cross-sectional categories. Soon we'd have other modifiers for their sexual orientations, car ownership and whether eat gebrokts or not on Passover. JFW | T@lk  16:51, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all of 'em. Good catch, IZAK.--Josiah 18:29, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)

 * Careful Delete It would be nice if a bot could walk back up through the hierarchy and relink the subjects to the first node that didn't have a Jewish association. For example people tagged as Category:Jewish American economists would then become Category:American economists --Hooperbloob 21:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and follow Hooperbloob's suggestion for correction. Postdlf 22:12, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all of the "Jewish American such-and-such profession" categories, if they are being used at the expense of including Jews with other Americans. Jewish culture in America is not that distinct from American culture in general. I certainly agree with Hooperbloob about making sure these are added to the corresponding "American such-and-such profession" categories. Perhaps retain Category:Jewish American: I suspect that if we get rid of it, it will simply resurface, anyway. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:29, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Viajero 17:58, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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 * Category:Vatican sportspeople to Category:Vatican City sportspeople
 * Category:Vatican runners to Category:Vatican City runners – C2C.
 * Category:Vatican cyclists to Category:Vatican City cyclists – C2C.

– C2C: Parent/Grandparent is Category:Vatican City people by occupation, and the norm is Vatican City FOO Mason (talk) 16:51, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:P. League+ Finals to Category:P. League+ finals – C2D: To match the various year P. League+ finals article titles. Dicklyon (talk) 15:49, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Shakti Peethas to Category:Shakta pithas – Main page has been moved to Shakta pithas as per RM. Jovian Eclipse 09:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * REDIRECT Category:People from Menominee, Wisconsin to Category:People from Menomonie, Wisconsin per WP:C2D. There is no "Menominee, Wisconsin", there's a "Menominee County, Wisconsin", and a "Menomonie, Wisconsin", both of those already have categories. The people in the category seem like they should be listed with Menomonie. Asdasdasdff (talk) 09:02, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * DELETE Category:Luhansk People's Republic–Russia relations per WP:C2F. The eponymous article is already in the parent categories, as for similar categories below. Place Clichy (talk) 01:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * DELETE Category:Donetsk People's Republic–Russia relations – WP:C2F
 * DELETE Category:South Ossetia–Transnistria relations – WP:C2F
 * DELETE Category:Abkhazia–Transnistria relations – WP:C2F
 * DELETE Category:Abkhazia–Vanuatu relations – WP:C2F
 * DELETE Category:Abkhazia–Tuvalu relations – WP:C2F
 * DELETE Category:Abkhazia–Syria relations – WP:C2F
 * DELETE Category:Abkhazia–Nicaragua relations – WP:C2F
 * DELETE Category:Abkhazia–Nauru relations – WP:C2F
 * Category:T1 League Finals to Category:T1 League finals – C2D: To make the names of the articles; basketball finals are not generally capped. Dicklyon (talk) 00:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Albums recorded at Studio Miraval to Category:Albums recorded at Miraval Studios – C2D: To match with Miraval Studios which was recently renamed. Keep current name as a redirect. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:29, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Cemeteries in Nakhchivan to Category:Cemeteries in the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic – C2C: per Category:Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic, C2D: per Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:History of Nakhchivan to Category:History of the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic
 * Category:Destroyed Armenian churches in Nakhchivan to Category:Destroyed Armenian churches in the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic
 * Category:Destroyed Armenian monasteries in Nakhchivan to Category:Destroyed Armenian monasteries in the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic
 * Category:Transportation in Nakhchivan to Category:Transportation in the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic

 * Category:Female members of the House of Councillors (Japan) to Category:Women members of the House of Councillors (Japan) – C2C: Per subcats of Category:Women legislators by country ミラP@Miraclepine 18:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Female members of the House of Representatives (Japan) to Category:Women members of the House of Representatives (Japan)
 * Category:Female members of the Diet of Japan to Category:Women members of the Diet of Japan
 * Category:Female members of the National Council (Slovakia) to Category:Women members of the National Council (Slovakia)
 * Category:Female members of the National Assembly (South Korea) to Category:Women members of the National Assembly (South Korea)
 * Category:Female members of the National Assembly (Venezuela) to Category:Women members of the National Assembly (Venezuela)
 * Category:Female members of the Venezuelan Chamber of Deputies to Category:Women members of the Venezuelan Chamber of Deputies
 * Category:Professional wrestling in Raleigh, North Carolina to Category:Professional wrestling shows in Raleigh, North Carolina – C2C. User:Namiba 16:18, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Professional wrestling in Columbus, Ohio to Category:Professional wrestling shows in Columbus, Ohio – C2C. User:Namiba 16:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:National Rally (France) politician stubs to Category:National Rally politician stubs – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 15:27, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:National Rally (France) MEPs to Category:National Rally MEPs – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 15:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:National Rally (France) politicians to Category:National Rally politicians – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 15:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Events at the 2024 Summer Olympics to Category:2024 Summer Olympics events – C2C (parent) Quadrantal (talk) 04:37, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

 * Category:Qutb Shahi dynasty to Category:Sultanate of Golconda – C2D. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 17:18, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose, this would remove the content from the tree of Category:Shia dynasties. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:32, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm aware, however once this is moved Category:Sultans of Golconda should be moved to replace Category:Qutb Shahi dynasty as that cat includes the members of the dynasty. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 09:56, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I do not agree with that move either because it would remove the sultans from the tree of Category:Sultans. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:28, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Marcocapelle I see. So then make the cat Category:Sultanate of Golconda manually one level higher than Category:Qutb Shahi dynasty? There's no reason that the main category for the Sultanate of Golconda topic shouldn't be Category:Sultanate of Golconda. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 13:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Potentially a reason for Category:Sultanate of Golconda not to exist is that there aren't any wikipedia articles about events that took place in this sultanate. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:54, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Marcocapelle There are, they just aren't in the Qutb Shahi dynasty cat because it wouldn't make sense to have events in a dynasty cat; Siege of Golconda and Willem Leyel's war on Golconda are two examples. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 16:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, the category exists now. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

 * Category:Auriga (constellation) to Category:Auriga – C2B: Main article was moved to base title. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 17:18, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:People from the Bijapur Sultanate to Category:People from the Sultanate of Bijapur – C2D. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 17:01, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Battles involving the Bijapur Sultanate to Category:Battles involving the Sultanate of Bijapur – C2D. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 17:01, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Bijapur Sultanate to Category:Sultanate of Bijapur – C2D. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 17:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Haut-Saint-Laurent Regional County Municipality to Category:Le Haut-Saint-Laurent Regional County Municipality – C2D: consistency with Le Haut-Saint-Laurent Regional County Municipality. I moved two articles to the correct (older) category before seeing the rules here, apologies if it was out of process. Essin (talk) 15:31, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This category has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 16:14, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Roman Catholic bishops of Fiesole to Category:Bishops of Fiesole - C2C: consistency with other categories in Category:Bishops in Tuscany

 * Category:Women Indian independence activists to Category:Indian women independence activists – C2B: word ordering is "Indian women" activists Mason (talk) 01:18, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Smasongarrison I would question this. Current name includes non-Indian women who were Indian independence activists, such as Sarla Behn and Annie Besant. TSventon (talk) 01:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to remove the non-indian folks, and put them into a new category of Activists for Indian independence. Mason (talk) 01:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Actually, it looks like Sarla Behn moved to India, and is categorized in several other Indian FOOian categories. Similar case with Annie Besant. In other words, it looks like they were intentially categorized as being in Indian women categories. Mason (talk) 01:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * That works for the women, but there are several men in Category:Indian independence activists who look British, e.g. Reginald Reynolds and Allan Octavian Hume. TSventon (talk) 02:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why it's necessary to fully fix the entire parent category structure. The British people could be People from British India. Regardless, it was pretty clear that the category contents reflect Indian women, and are inconsistent with other women activists categories. Mason (talk) 02:26, 17 July 2024 (UTCC)
 * I think the changes to Category:Women Korean independence activists and Category:Women Indian independence activists are unnecessary as Category:Women Indian independence activists contains women who worked for Indian Independence, just as Category:Women human rights activists contains women who work(ed) for human rights. I am questioning not opposing as in practice most Indian/Korean independence activists were Indian/Korean, so the change in scope is minor. TSventon (talk) 18:26, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Personally, I'd like to eventually make it easier to distinguish between nationality and causes. Category:Women human rights activists is much more clearly about Human rights activists who are women, compared to how we often name Category:Independence activists which could go either way as this conversation has revealed. Mason (talk) 20:57, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I think it is fairly clear that Category:Indian independence activists relates to the Indian independence movement, which is the main article for the category. The proposed change makes that less clear, so the current wording is better. We don't have Category:British independence activists or a British independence movement article. There is some confusion at Category:Indian independence activists by state or union territory, for example Category:Indian independence activists from Nagaland and Category:Kashmiri independence activists contain activists for the independence of Nagaland and Kashmir from India. TSventon (talk) 11:43, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * If it were clear, this would not be an ongoing discussion, and there would not be an entire category tree dedicated to Category:Independence activists by nationality. Mason (talk) 11:48, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

 * Category:People involved in race and intelligence controversies to Category:People associated with race and intelligence controversies – C2E: I'm cleaning up the parent category to make it more navigable. I realized that this name implies that each person is directly involved in the controversy (or advocating that there are genetic between group differences). A subset of folks in here do work that effectively argues the opposite (or folks who are actively involved in demonstrating that the differences aren't caused by race). Mason (talk) 21:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * "involved in" sounds stronger than "associated with", doesn’t it? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:06, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes. That is exactly why I want to soften the language. Mason (talk) 20:45, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * then that's the very reason I am opposing it, per WP:DEFINING, WP:OCASSOC. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:39, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * There are people who are still defined by their research in race and intelligence, even if they aren't actively involved in such controversy. The current version implies that they are advocating for the hypothesis in favor, the rename does not imply that they are in favor of the hypothesis. If you want to purge the category, fine, but I think that your opposition in misguided, given how potentially controversial the label is. Mason (talk) 10:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Researchers of the topic are a completely different sort of people in this context, they should never be mingled with people who are actually involved in these controversies. If enough researchers articles exist they should have their own category. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:32, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

 * Category:Wikipedia formatting and function templates by subject area to Category:Wikipedia utility templates by subject area – C2C after Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_28 – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Association football formatting and function templates to Category:Association football utility templates
 * Category:Astronomy formatting and function templates to Category:Astronomy utility templates
 * Category:Solar System formatting and function templates to Category:Astronomy utility templates
 * Category:Minor planet formatting and function templates to Category:Minor planet utility templates
 * Category:Automotive formatting and function templates to Category:Automotive utility templates
 * Category:Formula E formatting and function templates to Category:Formula E utility templates
 * Category:Formula One formatting and function templates to Category:Formula One utility templates
 * Category:Chemistry formatting and function templates to Category:Chemistry utility templates
 * Category:Currency formatting and function templates to Category:Currency utility templates
 * Category:Economics formatting and function templates to Category:Economics utility templates
 * Category:Transport formatting and function templates to Category:Transport utility templates
 * Category:Norway rail transport formatting and function templates to Category:Norway rail transport utility templates
 * Category:Virginia state highway formatting and function templates to Category:Virginia state highway utility templates
 * I propose Category:Wikipedia formatting and function templates by subject area to Category:Wikipedia utility templates by topic, similar to subcategories of . Side note: I really don't understand the meaning of the word "utility" here. Surely, all created templates are meant to have some utility? It sounds so generic, I wouldn't mind upmerging the whole tree of . —andrybak (talk) 01:10, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree with Andrybak. Looked at a few at the minor planet category. Any link template should be under a sub-category of Category:Link templates. "Utility" is so generic that it is unhelpful, as is the previous "function templates". Probably best to check the contents of each category and see if they are all of a same type, find out which parent correctly fit that type and rename to match. Gonnym (talk) 07:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

 * Category:Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Canterbury Region – C2D: Per move discussion from March of 2022 and to match the main article at Canterbury Region. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Question: Should all of these be at "in the Canterbury Region", not "in Canterbury Region"? The title of Geology of the Canterbury Region and running text in Canterbury Region suggest they might. This contrasts somewhat with the usage at Southland Region (see below), but is the same style (whichever one it is) preferable for both regions? Ham II (talk) 10:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * "the Canterbury Region", similar to "the West Coast Region" and "the Marlborough Region", which have just been done. Nurg (talk) 08:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Bays of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Bays of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Bridges in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Bridges in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Buildings and structures in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Buildings and structures in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Canterbury, New Zealand geography stubs to Category:Canterbury Region geography stubs
 * Category:Canterbury, New Zealand river stubs to Category:Canterbury Region river stubs
 * Category:Canyons and gorges of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Canyons and gorges of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Cricketers from Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Cricketers from Canterbury Region
 * Category:Education in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Education in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Environment of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Environment of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Geography of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Geography of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Headlands of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Headlands of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Heritage New Zealand Category 1 historic places in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Heritage New Zealand Category 1 historic places in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Heritage New Zealand Category 2 historic places in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Heritage New Zealand Category 2 historic places in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Hiking and tramping tracks in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Hiking and tramping tracks in Canterbury Region
 * Category:History of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:History of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Islands of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Islands of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Lagoons of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Lagoons of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Lakes of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Lakes of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Landforms of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Landforms of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Mayors of places in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Mayors of places in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Military personnel from Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Military personnel from Canterbury Region
 * Category:Mountain ranges of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Mountain ranges of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Mountains of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Mountains of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Museums in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Museums in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Parks in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Parks in Canterbury Region
 * Category:People educated by school in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:People educated by school in Canterbury Region
 * Category:People from Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:People from Canterbury Region
 * Category:Politics of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Politics of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Populated places in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Populated places in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Protected areas of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Protected areas of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Rail transport in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Rail transport in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Religious buildings and structures in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Religious buildings and structures in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Rivers of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Rivers of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Rock formations of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Rock formations of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Rugby league in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Rugby league in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Rugby league players from Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Rugby league players from Canterbury Region
 * Category:Rugby league players in Canterbury, New Zealand by club to Category:Rugby league players in Canterbury Region by club
 * Category:Rugby union players from Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Rugby union players from Canterbury Region
 * Category:Schools in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Schools in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Secondary schools in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Secondary schools in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Ski areas and resorts in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Ski areas and resorts in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Sport in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Sport in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Sports venues in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Sports venues in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Sportspeople from Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Sportspeople from Canterbury Region
 * Category:Tourist attractions in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Tourist attractions in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Transport buildings and structures in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Transport buildings and structures in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Transport in Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Transport in Canterbury Region
 * Category:Volcanoes of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Volcanoes of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Wetlands of Canterbury, New Zealand to Category:Wetlands of Canterbury Region
 * Category:Southland, New Zealand to Category:Southland Region – C2D: Per move discussion from March of 2022 and to match the main article at Southland Region. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:16, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Question: Should these be at "in the Southland Region" or "in Southland Region"? Southland Region has one piece of running text, "A map showing population density in the Southland Region at the 2006 census.", which suggests the former, and three pieces of running text which suggest the latter: "Southland Region and the Southland Regional Council were created in 1989", "Southland Region covers 31,218.27 km2" and "Southland Region had a population of 97,467 at the 2018 New Zealand census". This contrasts somewhat with the usage at the article Canterbury Region (see above), but is the same style (whichever one it is) preferable for both regions? Ham II (talk) 10:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * "the Southland Region", similar to "the West Coast Region" and "the Marlborough Region", which have just been done, and similar to all the other NZ regions, as can be seen by navigating down the tree at Category:Regions of New Zealand. Nurg (talk) 08:47, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:Bays of Southland, New Zealand to Category:Bays of Southland Region
 * Category:Bridges in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Bridges in Southland Region
 * Category:Buildings and structures in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Buildings and structures in Southland Region
 * Category:Education in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Education in Southland Region
 * Category:Geography of Southland, New Zealand to Category:Geography of Southland Region
 * Category:Ghost towns in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Ghost towns in Southland Region
 * Category:Headlands of Southland, New Zealand to Category:Headlands of Southland Region
 * Category:Heritage New Zealand Category 1 historic places in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Heritage New Zealand Category 1 historic places in Southland Region
 * Category:Hiking and tramping tracks in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Hiking and tramping tracks in Southland Region
 * Category:Hills of Southland, New Zealand to Category:Hills of Southland Region
 * Category:History of Southland, New Zealand to Category:History of Southland Region
 * Category:Islands of Southland, New Zealand to Category:Islands of Southland Region
 * Category:Lakes of Southland, New Zealand to Category:Lakes of Southland Region
 * Category:Landforms of Southland, New Zealand to Category:Landforms of Southland Region
 * Category:Mayors of places in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Mayors of places in Southland Region
 * Category:Military personnel from Southland, New Zealand to Category:Military personnel from Southland Region
 * Category:Mountain ranges of Southland, New Zealand to Category:Mountain ranges of Southland Region
 * Category:Mountains of Southland, New Zealand to Category:Mountains of Southland Region
 * Category:Museums in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Museums in Southland Region
 * Category:People educated by school in Southland, New Zealand to Category:People educated by school in Southland Region
 * Category:People from Southland, New Zealand to Category:People from Southland Region
 * Category:Politics of Southland, New Zealand to Category:Politics of Southland Region
 * Category:Populated places in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Populated places in Southland Region
 * Category:Protected areas of Southland, New Zealand to Category:Protected areas of Southland Region
 * Category:Rail transport in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Rail transport in Southland Region
 * Category:Rivers of Southland, New Zealand to Category:Rivers of Southland Region
 * Category:Rugby league in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Rugby league in Southland Region
 * Category:Rugby union players from Southland, New Zealand to Category:Rugby union players from Southland Region
 * Category:Schools in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Schools in Southland Region
 * Category:Secondary schools in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Secondary schools in Southland Region
 * Category:Southland, New Zealand geography stubs to Category:Southland Region geography stubs
 * Category:Southland, New Zealand river stubs to Category:Southland Region river stubs
 * Category:Sport in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Sport in Southland Region
 * Category:Sports venues in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Sports venues in Southland Region
 * Category:Sportspeople from Southland, New Zealand to Category:Sportspeople from Southland Region
 * Category:Tourist attractions in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Tourist attractions in Southland Region
 * Category:Transport buildings and structures in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Transport buildings and structures in Southland Region
 * Category:Transport in Southland, New Zealand to Category:Transport in Southland Region
 * Category:Wetlands of Southland, New Zealand to Category:Wetlands of Southland Region
 * I haven't moved these batches to the opposed section because adding "the" seems a matter of C2C. Feel free to move them to Opposed if you think otherwise. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:11, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * English is not my mothertongue, and I do not feel comfortable to unilaterally decide whether it should be "the" in the names or not. If there is no obvious consensus may be we should go through the full CfD. Ymblanter (talk) 11:42, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Opposed requests

 * None currently

On hold pending other discussion

 * Category:1924 establishments in Mozambique to Category:1924 establishments in Portuguese Mozambique – C2C with Category:1920s in Portuguese Mozambique, following parameter change by . The member pages are in Beira, Maputo and Nampula which were all under Portuguese control at the time. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Category:1924 in Mozambique to Category:1924 in Portuguese Mozambique
 * Support, just adding this because I was pinged. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:34, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hold pending Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_June_29 – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Moved to full discussion

 * Category:Sacked Hindu temples in the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent to Category:Hindu temples destroyed in the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent – C2C. –LaundryPizza03</b> ( d c̄ ) 03:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * oppose, "sacked" was suggested in full CfD for a good reason, namely that in many cases the damage has been repaired ages ago, so "destroyed" is not applicable. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:39, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. Moving the verb to third position is a straightforward improvement in clarity. Changing the verb from "sacked" to "destroyed" requires consensus. Jruderman (talk) 05:39, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_July_13. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 06:12, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

 * Category:Family of Boris Johnson to Category:Boris Johnson family – C2B. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:05, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It has been recently moved via speedy, may be we should go for a full discussion.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:07, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ymblanter, oh I did that, incorrectly thinking it was an error or the wrong. But in fact the previous version was the correct form so was just undoing it. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Science fiction on television/archive1

Science fiction on television
I found this a few weeks ago and it impressed me with its lenght and coverage. Now I think I brought it up to our FAC standards (lead, references, etc.). There seem to be no further comments on peer review for almost 2 weeks, so I would like to hear what you have to say about it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 10:55, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment I see subheadings in the section on Japanese productions, but no subheadings under the much longer American, and even longer yet British production sections. slambo 11:17, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)

 * Mild Object until the article has been NPOV'd (most importantly in the lead section). plattopusis this thing on? 14:03, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)

 * Object - content coverage not balanced (detail-wise). Please create UK television science fiction, move the ==British television science fiction== section there and leave a 8-12 paragraph summary of that here. Subsectioning is also needed per slambo's comment (not too many though). --mav 14:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Object - needs many more subheadings. The "US television science fiction" section is too large considering that there is a main article for that aspect and should be further summarised.  Needs NPOV (example: "As of 2005, there seems to be some degree of optimism for the future of the genre in the UK, with good reason"). Some comments need backing up with references (example: "The most significant US science fiction television series of the early 1980s...").  There are also many repeated links – I lost count on the number of times Doctor Who was wiki'd. violet/riga (t) 21:09, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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Rock in Rio (album)

Rock in Rio is a live album and video by English heavy metal band Iron Maiden, recorded at the Rock in Rio festival, Brazil in 2001 on the last night of the Brave New World Tour. The band played to approximately 250,000 people; the second largest crowd of their career (the band's largest concert attendance was their 1985 Rock In Rio performance to an audience of 350,000) and with the relatively recent return of lead singer Bruce Dickinson and guitarist Adrian Smith to the band, they recorded their fifth live release.

It features many of their most well-known tracks, including the eponymous "Iron Maiden" and "Run to the Hills," along with six songs from Brave New World, such as "The Wicker Man" and the title track. Also performed were two tracks from the Blaze Bayley-era, "Sign of the Cross" and "The Clansman".

The video release, which was issued on DVD, VHS and UMD, was edited by bassist and founder member Steve Harris. In addition to the concert, the second disc also includes three special features with interviews with band members, a short documentary on the day in the life of Iron Maiden, and photos by official photographer, Ross Halfin.

Background
Iron Maiden's performance at Rock in Rio festival was the final show of their 2000-01 tour, Brave New World Tour. Due to the magnitude of the event (the concert was performed to 250,000 people on the day and an estimated worldwide TV audience of over one billion), the band decided that it should be the basis of their next double live album and first concert DVD release.

To film the concert, the band hired American director Dean Karr, who had previously worked with the group on "The Wicker Man" music video. According to Karr, eighteen cameras were used to capture the show in Rio and additional footage for the DVD was shot throughout their South American tour. This included a performance in Chile, during which cameras were attached to the band's guitars and on singer Bruce Dickinson's shoulders. Dickinson was not pleased with the placement of some cameras at the Rio show and confesses that he had a "little temperamental moment" when he found one blocking a ladder up to his catwalk, which he promptly destroyed.

In spite of this, Dickinson remembers the show very fondly, stating that it was "a fantastic way to end the tour" and that "the energy we expended that night was just incredible". Although he agreed that the band "played well", bassist Steve Harris' enjoyment of the gig was hampered by technical difficulties. Due to the PA malfunctioning on the edge of the stage, Harris "had to stay firmly within my area for the whole night", which meant that he could not interact with the crowd as much as he would have wished.

Although he had been behind the band's previous two concert films, Maiden England (1989) and Donington Live 1992, Harris decided not to edit the project himself, stating that he "wanted a fresh pair of eyes on Maiden. I was after someone else's input and direction over my style", and a professional editing company was hired instead. These circumstances changed, however, when he first saw the edits while producing the soundtrack with Kevin Shirley in New York. According to Harris, the editors had opted for several "styling decisions", including "deliberately out of focus shots of the lighting rig", which "just horrified us". In addition, the crew had also lost the footage from two cameras, which meant that there were very few shots of guitarists Dave Murray and Adrian Smith.

To remedy the situation, Harris reluctantly decided to undertake the editing work himself, despite being "burnt out and ready for time off" following the tour's conclusion. To achieve the desired results, Harris had to teach himself how to use complex digital editing systems and installed all the necessary equipment in his home studio in Essex. Although this meant over six months editing, which led to a postponed release date, Harris was pleased with the results and argues that it is better than their first concert film, Live After Death.

DVD bonus features

 * Candid interviews with the band members.
 * "A Day in the Life" of Iron Maiden.
 * Ross Halfin Photo Diary – 50 exclusive photos from Iron Maiden's South American Tour, commentary from official photographer, Ross Halfin.
 * Several secret short videos.

Personnel
Production and performance credits are adapted from the album and DVD liner notes.

Iron Maiden

 * Bruce Dickinson – lead vocals
 * Dave Murray – lead and rhythm guitars
 * Adrian Smith – lead and rhythm guitars, backing vocals
 * Janick Gers – lead and rhythm guitars
 * Steve Harris – bass, backing vocals
 * Nicko McBrain — drums

Additional musicians

 * Michael Kenney – keyboards

Production

 * Kevin Shirley – producer, engineer, mixing
 * Claudius Mittendorfer – assistant engineer
 * Dean Karr – director (video), photography
 * Arthur Gorson – producer (video)
 * Mick Hutson – cover photography
 * Ross Halfin – photography
 * Peacock – sleeve design, sleeve concept
 * Rod Smallwood – management
 * Andy Taylor – management
 * Merck Mercuriadis – management

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USS Gilmer (DD-233)

USS Gilmer (DD-233/APD-11) was a Clemson-class destroyer in the United States Navy during World War II. She was the first ship named for Secretary of the Navy Thomas Walker Gilmer.

Construction and commissioning
Gilmer was launched 24 May 1919 by the New York Shipbuilding Corporation; sponsored by Mrs. Elizabeth Gilmer Miles, Secretary Gilmer's granddaughter; and commissioned 30 April 1920.

Service history
From 27 August 1920 to 11 August 1923, Gilmer made two round trip transatlantic voyages out of New York to European and Mediterranean ports. Gilmer was damaged in a storm in the Adriatic Sea in November 1920. She struck a submerged object 3 February 1921 and was forced to enter dry dock in Pola, Italy (now Pula, Croatia) for repairs to her starboard propeller and shaft. She subsequently engaged in training exercises along the United States East Coast, in the Caribbean, and out of United States West Coast ports until 1938. This varied duty was highlighted by a cruise to Nicaragua in 1926 to protect American lives and property during the guerrilla war led by Augusto César Sandino, an escort voyage to Havana guarding President Calvin Coolidge in USS Texas (BB-35) in 1928, and disaster relief work in the Caribbean during the same year.

Decommissioned at Philadelphia 31 August 1938, Gilmer recommissioned 25 September 1939 following the outbreak of World War II and was assigned as flagship of Destroyer Squadron 30 in the Atlantic Squadron. She was part of the Thirteenth Naval District in 1940. She conducted patrols and exercises in the Atlantic and Caribbean until reaching San Diego 4 November 1940 and continued these duties along the Pacific coast until the United States entered the war.

World War II
Gilmer was at sea off Puget Sound when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941. She immediately began antisubmarine patrol and escort duties. In early June 1942, she took part in the opening stages of the Aleutian Islands campaign. She entered drydock 13 November 1942. She was redesignated as a high-speed transport, APD-11, on 22 January 1943 following conversion. She sailed from Seattle 29 January via San Diego for Pearl Harbor, arriving 13 February, and subsequently escorted merchantmen to Espiritu Santo, where she moored 9 March and commenced amphibious training exercises with the 4th Marine Raiders Battalion.

On 5 April, Gilmer sailed from Tulagi and as flagship of Transport Division 16 engaged in antisubmarine patrols in those waters. She called at Nouméa 22 April, and put in at Townsville, Australia, 8 May, making two round trip escort voyages thence to Brisbane 13 May-22 June 1943. Escort and patrolling from Australia to New Guinea continued until 4 September 1943, when Gilmer participated in the Allied assault on the Huon Peninsula near Lae, New Guinea, and patrolled off Buna, New Guinea. She supported American and Australian forces in the New Guinea campaign, and made frequent escort voyages thence to Australia and return. On 26 December 1943, she landed troops of the 1st Marine Division at Cape Gloucester, New Britain, and stood by to support landings at Finschhafen 3 days later. On 2 January 1944, elements of the 126th Infantry were landed at Saidon. Gilmer engaged in patrols of Buna, Cape Sudest, and Australia and bombarded Humboldt Bay, New Guinea, 22 April 1944 when Army forces began the assault.

On 12 May the ship sailed from Hollandia to embark underwater demolition teams (UDT) at Pearl Harbor and debarked them 14 June 1944 at the initial assault on Saipan. Two days later she discovered and sank four Japanese cargo ships, taking 24 prisoners, escaping serious damage. Tinian Town was bombarded 23 June and UDT operations off that island continued until 14 July when Gilmer, along with USS William C. Miller (DE-259), formed an offensive antisubmarine warfare group and sank JAPANESE SUBMARINE I-55 in 18.3°N, 146.43333°W. DANFS listed this submarine as I-6, but I-6 is believed to have been lost to friendly fire at the end of June 1944.

Gilmer sailed from Tinian 12 August for Pearl Harbor and until January 1945 conducted demolition and reconnaissance training with UDT teams in Hawaiian waters. She sailed 10 January as flagship for rehearsal exercises at Ulithi, and on 16 February closed Iwo Jima for the initial amphibious assaults. UDT teams were landed on the eastern and western beaches, and Gilmer screened USS Tennessee (BB-43) as the big ship bombarded Japanese defenses on Iwo Jima. Patrolling and screening activities continued through 24 February, when Gilmer sailed for Leyte, arriving four days later. After touching Ulithi, she took part in the Okinawa operation, closing that island 25 March 1945 as flagship of the UDT's. The next day, a kamikaze hit her galley deckhouse, killing one and wounding three crewmen. Gilmer supported the invasion until 9 April when she sailed for repairs at Pearl Harbor, but returned to Okinawa 4 July to recommence patrolling duties.

Following antisubmarine screening assignments for convoys bound from the Philippines to Okinawa, Gilmer moored at Nagasaki 13 September after Japan's surrender to carry prisoners of war from there to Okinawa. She sailed from that island 15 October to escort a convoy to Hong Kong, arriving 22 October, and sailed again 2 days later to escort troopships carrying the Chinese 13th Army to Qinhuangdao. After further escort and patrol voyages along the China coast, Gilmer sailed from Qingdao 26 November for the United States and finally moored in the U.S. again at Philadelphia 11 January 1946.

Fate
Decommissioned 5 February 1946, her name was struck from the Navy list 25 February 1946. She was sold for scrapping 3 December 1946.

Awards
Gilmer received seven battle stars for World War II service. Awarded a Navy Unit Commendation for participating in seven specific operations during World War II. Gilmer received the Second Nicaraguan Campaign Medal for service 25 September-7 October 1926 and 11-30 October 1926.

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The Big Knockover

The Big Knockover is the Swedish punk group No Fun at All's third album, released on 13 July 1997.

All music by Mikael Danielsson except track 1, which was co-written by Jimmie Olsson. All lyrics by Ingemar Jansson. Published by Misty Music.

Track listing

 * 1) "Catch Me Running Round"
 * 2) "Suicide Machine"
 * 3) "Should Have Known"
 * 4) "Lose Another Friend"
 * 5) "When the Time Comes"
 * 6) "Sorry Lad"
 * 7) "Everything Inside"
 * 8) "The Other Side"
 * 9) "Away from the Circle"
 * 10) "Nobody's Perfect"
 * 11) "Your Feeble Mind"
 * 12) "Ultramar"
 * 13) "Break My Back"

The title, "The Big Knockover," is taken from a short story by Dashiell Hammett. This short story was also a source of inspiration for the film "The Usual Suspects."

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Queensland Cyclones

The Queensland Cyclones are an Australian broomball team, representing the state of Queensland at the Australian National Broomball Championships.

Players representing the Queensland Cyclones are primarily drawn from the North Queensland Broomball Association, a broomball club based in the north Queensland city of Townsville.

The Cyclones have a comparatively poor record at the National Championships when compared to the representative teams from elsewhere in Australia. Their only national title to date is the 1995 Mixed Elite title. They have finished as runners up in most divisions on a number of occasions.

Men's Elite Division

 * Runner Up five times (1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2005)

Women's Elite Division

 * Runner Up three times (1999 with New South Wales, 2005, 2006)

Mixed Elite Division

 * Champions once (1995)
 * Runner Up four times (1996, 1997, 2003, 2005)

Mixed Intermediate Division

 * Runner Up once (2006)

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Protein toxicity

Protein toxicity is the effect of the buildup of protein metabolic waste compounds, like urea, uric acid, ammonia, and creatinine. Protein toxicity has many causes, including urea cycle disorders, genetic mutations, excessive protein intake, and insufficient kidney function, such as chronic kidney disease and acute kidney injury. Symptoms of protein toxicity include unexplained vomiting and loss of appetite. Untreated protein toxicity can lead to serious complications such as seizures, encephalopathy, further kidney damage, and even death.

Definition
Protein toxicity occurs when protein metabolic wastes build up in the body. During protein metabolism, nitrogenous wastes such as urea, uric acid, ammonia, and creatinine are produced. These compounds are not utilized by the human body and are usually excreted by the kidney. However, due to conditions such as renal insufficiency, the under-functioning kidney is unable to excrete these metabolic wastes, causing them to accumulate in the body and lead to toxicity. Although there are many causes of protein toxicity, this condition is most prevalent in people with chronic kidney disease who consumes a protein-rich diet, specifically, proteins from animal sources that are rapidly digested and metabolized, causing the release of a high concentration of protein metabolic wastes in the blood stream rapidly.

Causes and pathophysiology
Protein toxicity has a significant role in neurodegenerative diseases. Whether it is due to high protein intake, pathological disorders lead to the accumulation of protein waste products, the no efficient metabolism of the proteins, or oligomerization of the amino acids from proteolysis. The mechanism by which protein can lead to well known neurodegenerative diseases includes transcriptions dysfunction, propagation, pathological cytoplasmic inclusions, mitochondrial and stress granule dysfunction.

Ammonia, one of the waste products of protein metabolism, is very harmful, especially to the brain, where it crosses the blood brain barrier leading to a whole range of neurological dysfunctions from cognitive impairment to death. The brain has a mechanism to counteract the presence of this waste metabolite. One of the mechanisms involved in the impairment of the brain is the compromise of astrocyte potassium buffering, where astrocytes play a key role. However, as more ammonia crosses, the system gets saturated, leading to astrocyte swelling and brain edema.

Urea is another waste product that originates from protein metabolism in humans. However, urea is used by the body as a source of nitrogen essential for growth and life. The most relevant disorders on the urea cycle are genetic, leading to defective enzymes or transporters inhibiting the reabsorption of urate with the subsequent increase in ammonia levels, which is toxic.

High protein intake can lead to high protein waste, and this is different from protein poisoning since the issue relates to the high level of the waste metabolites. Usually, when protein consumption goes above one-third of the food we consumed, this situation presents. The liver has a limited capacity and won't deaminate proteins, leading to increased nitrogen in the body. The rate at which urea is excreted can not keep up with the rate at which it is produced. The catabolism of amino acids can lead to toxic levels of ammonia. Furthermore, there is a limited rate at which the gastrointestinal tract can absorb amino acids from proteins.

Uric acid is not a waste metabolite derived from protein metabolism, but many high protein diets also contain higher relative fractions of nucleic acids. One of the two types of nucleic acids, purines (the other being pyrimidines, which are not problematic) are metabolized to uric acid in humans when in excess, which can lead to problems, chiefly gout.

The kidneys play an essential role in the reabsorption and excretion of uric acid. Certain transporters located in the nephron in the apical and basolateral surfaces regulate uric acid serum levels. Uric acid is not as toxic as other nitrogen derivates. It has an antioxidant function in the blood at low levels. People with compromised kidneys will have a lower excretion of uric acid leading to several diseases, including further renal damage, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and gout.

Creatinine might not be a direct indicator of protein toxicity; however, it is important to mention that creatinine could increase due to overwork by the kidneys exposed to high levels of protein waste. Also, high serum creatinine levels could indicate decreased renal filtration rate due to kidney disease, increase byproduct as a consequence of muscle breakdown, or high protein intake.

Effects of a high protein diet
A high-protein diet is a health concern for those suffering from kidney disease. The main concern is that a high protein intake may promote further renal damage that can lead to protein toxicity. The physiological changes induced by an increased protein intake, such as an increased glomerular pressure and hyperfiltration, place further strain on already damaged kidneys. This strain can lead to proteins being inadequately metabolized and subsequently causing toxicity. A high-protein diet can lead to complications for those with renal disease and has been linked to further progression of the disease. The well-known Nurse's Health Study found a correlation between the loss of kidney function and an increased dietary intake of animal protein by people who had already been diagnosed with renal disease. This association suggests that a total protein intake that exceeds the recommendations may accelerate renal disease and lead to risk of protein toxicity within a diseased individual. For this reason, dietary protein restriction is a common treatment for people with renal disease in which proteinuria is present. Protein restricted individuals have been shown to have slower rates of progression of their renal diseases.

Several studies, however, have found no evidence of protein toxicity due to high protein intakes on kidney function in healthy people. Diets that regularly exceed the recommendations for protein intake have been found to lead to an increased glomerular filtration rate in the kidneys and also have an effect on the hormone systems in the body. It is well established that these physiological effects are harmful to individuals with renal disease, but has not found these responses to be detrimental to those who are healthy and demonstrate adequate renal activity. In people with healthy kidney function, the kidneys work continuously to excrete the by-products of protein metabolism which prevents protein toxicity from occurring. In response to an increased consumption of dietary protein, the kidneys maintain homeostasis within the body by operating at an increased capacity, producing a higher amount of urea and subsequently excreting it from the body. Although some have proposed that this increase in waste production and excretion will cause increased strain on the kidneys, other research has not supported this. Currently, evidence suggests that changes in renal function that occur in response to an increased dietary protein intake are part of the normal adaptive system employed by the body to sustain homeostasis. In a healthy individual with well-functioning kidneys, there is no need for concern that an increased dietary protein intake will lead to protein toxicity and decreased renal function.

Protein toxicity and other metabolic disorders associated with chronic kidney failure have been shown to related to more systemic complications such as atherosclerosis, anemia, malnutrition, and hyperparathyroidism.

Symptoms
Unexplained vomiting and a loss of appetite are indicators of protein toxicity. If those two symptoms are accompanied by an ammonia quality on the breath, the onset of kidney failure is a likely culprit. People with kidney disease who are not on dialysis are advised to avoid consumption of protein if possible, as consuming too much accelerates the condition and can lead to death. Most of the problems stem from the accumulation of unfiltered toxins and wastes from protein metabolism.

Kidney function naturally declines with age due to the gradual loss of nephrons (filters) in the kidney.

Common causes of chronic kidney disease include diabetes, heart disease, long term untreated high blood pressure, as well as abuse of analgesics like ibuprofen, aspirin, and paracetamol. Kidney disease like the polycystic kidney disease can be genetic in nature and progress as the individual ages.

Diagnosis
Under normal conditions in the body, ammonia, urea, uric acid, and creatinine are produced by protein metabolism and excreted through the kidney as urine. When these by-products cannot be excreted properly from the body they will accumulate and become highly toxic. Protein consumption is a major source of these waste products. An accumulation of these waste products can occur in people with kidney insufficiency who eat a diet rich in protein and therefore can not excrete the waste properly.

Blood urea nitrogen (BUN) test measures the amount of urea nitrogen in the blood. Increased levels of urea in the blood (uremia) is an indicator for poor elimination of urea from the body usually due to kidney damage. Increased BUN levels can be caused by kidney diseases, kidney stones, congestive heart failure, fever, and gastrointestinal bleedings. BUN levels can also be elevated in pregnant people and people whose diet consists mainly of protein.

Increased creatinine levels in the blood can also be a sign of kidney damage and inability to excrete protein waste by-products properly.

A confirmation of kidney disease or kidney failure is often obtained by performing a blood test which measures the concentration of creatinine and urea (blood urea nitrogen). A creatinine blood test and BUN test are usually performed together along with other blood panels for diagnosis.

Treatment
Treatment options for protein toxicity can include renal replacement therapies like hemodialysis and hemofiltration.

Lifestyle modifications like a diet low in protein, decreased sodium intake, and exercise can also be in incorporated as part of a treatment plan.

Medications may also be prescribed depending on symptoms. Common medications prescribed for kidney diseases include hypertension medications like angiotensin converting enzyme inhibitors (ACEI) and angiotensin II receptor blockers (ARB) as they have been found to be kidney protective. Diuretics may also be prescribed to facilitate with waste excretion as well as any fluid retention.

A kidney transplant surgery is another treatment option where a healthy kidney is donated from a living or deceased donor to the recipient.

Complications
Accumulation of protein metabolic waste products in the body can cause diseases and serious complications such as gout, uremia, acute renal failure, seizure, encephalopathy, and death. These products of protein metabolism, including urea, uric acid, ammonia, and creatinine, are compounds that the human body must eliminate in order for the body to function properly.

The build up of uric acid causing high amount of uric acid in blood, is a condition called hyperuricemia. Long-standing hyperuricemia can cause deposition of monosodium urate crystals in or around joints, resulting in an arthritic condition called gout.

When the body is unable to eliminate urea, it can cause a serious medical condition called uremia, which is a high level of urea in blood. Symptoms of uremia include nausea, vomiting, fatigue, anorexia, weight loss, and change in mental status. If left untreated, uremia can lead to seizure, coma, cardiac arrest, and death.

When the body is unable to process or eliminate ammonia, such as in protein toxicity, this will lead to the build up of ammonia in the bloodstream, causing a condition called hyperammonemia. Symptoms of elevated blood ammonia include muscle weakness and fatigue. If left untreated, ammonia can cross the blood brain barrier and affect brain tissues, leading to a spectrum of neuropsychiatric and neurological symptoms including impaired memory, seizure, confusion, delirium, excessive sleepiness, disorientation, brain edema, intracranial hypertension, coma, and even death.

Epidemiology
The prevalence of protein toxicity cannot be accurately quantified as there are numerous etiologies from which protein toxicity can arise.

Many people have protein toxicity as a result of chronic kidney disease (CKD) or end-stage renal disease (ESRD). The prevalence of CKD (all stages) from 1988 to 2016 in the U.S. has remained relatively consistent at about 14.2% annually. The prevalence of people who have received treatment for ESRD has increased to about 2,284 people per 1 million in 2018, up from 1927 people per 1 million in 2007. Prevalence of treated ESRD increases with age, is more prevalent in males than in females, and is higher in Native Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders over any other racial group. However, the prevalence of protein toxicity specifically is difficult to quantify as people who have diseases that cause protein metabolites to accumulate typically initiate hemodialysis before they become symptomatic.

Urea cycle disorders also cause toxic buildup of protein metabolites, namely ammonia. As of 2013, in the U.S., the incidence of urea cycle disorders has been estimated to be 1 case in every 31,000 births, resulting in about 113 new cases annually.

Neonates
Protein toxicity, specifically ammonia buildup, can affect preterm newborns that have serious defects in the urea cycle enzymes with almost no physical manifestations at birth. Clinical symptoms can manifest within a few days of birth, causing extreme illness and intellectual disability or death, if left untreated. Hyperammonemia in newborns can be diagnosed with visual cues like sepsis-like presentation, hyperventilation, fluctuating body temperature, and respiratory distress; blood panels can also be used to form differential diagnoses between hyperammonemia caused by urea cycle disorders and other disorders.

Neurodegenerative diseases
People who have neurodegenerative diseases like Huntington's disease, dementia, Parkinson's disease, and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also often show symptoms of protein toxicity. Cellular deficits and genetic mutations caused by these neurodegenerative diseases can pathologically alter gene transcription, negatively affecting protein metabolism.

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Moving articles
The way to rename articles is to move them. You won't be able to do this yet (you get the ability when you've been around for a while, and have made more edits; this was introduced to stop people just turning up and vandalising Wikipedia by moving pages, a particularly time-consuming problem to clear up); what you can do now is ask for the page to be moved at Requested moves, or by asking an editor who's been around for a while.

By the way, always 'sign' your messages (as explained above); it makes everything easier. Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 11:10, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Personal Critics

 * I am just going to comment on what I believe is an inconsistency. You say you don't follow a "conga-line" but in every single VfD page I've seen you vote, you seem to be a complete sheep.  You say you want to provide justification and not do it mindlessly, but, from you, I have seen a complete lack of this.  Just my two cents Drak 11:05, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * You're in no position to critise me considering 1) You've only been a contributor to Wikipedia for only 3 days 2) Your first contributions to Wikipedia has been on vfd (which would raise suspicions about why you're here)  3) You have yet to contribute an article. A gentle reminder - Kindly desist from name calling or a complaint will be forwarded to the admins. Megan1967 11:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I am perfectly within my right to criticise you. I have been lurkinng around before I signed up for one, and I have seen you post on VfD many times "following the trend." If you want me to pick up examples, I can.  Also, you say I haven't contributed anything, whereas, I have actually contributed two full articles, and looking at your "to-do list" Britten's operas have more worth than what you write about.  Also, you seem to be an advocate of free speech, so how can you say I'm in no position to criticise you? Drak 11:31, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sinophobia
This is not POV, in Japanese Article for Sinophobia, it introduces both U.S.A. and Japan are Anti-China Countries.

 * IF this is the case put a sentence such as "A Japanese article has named Japan and the United States as Anti-Chinese countries" with a citation. But I still think it is POV.  Drak 12:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

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