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Talk:Joan of Arcadia

Cast and characters
What the fck?!!! A whole entry for the casts alone but no single briefing on the characters? I've seen the first and probably the only episode of Joan of Arcadia I will ever see (It airs at 1:30 am when I'm busy in my computer writing, a prob with firefox stopped my resourcing so... I was there like I'm here now) and I enjoyed the episode (where a baby was found in a trash can) more due to its characters than anything else (well, the protagonist is a beautiful woman but the whole "sex has a place in the list of evil things" idea is too preachy even for a show that is, obviously, anything except preachy; indeed for something pseudo-nondenominational prochristian/promonotheist/prostatusquo... It was well done) and I came in here hoping it will have more data than any other page, but just like them... It focuses more on cast than on episode guide or character descriptions... Hey I even endured the airhead fictional diary entries given by the cbs on the subject... The character represented by those words was far worse than the appealing heroine of the show and it made me consider much about them... Like Adam not being just a friend with a crush but the boyfriend or ex-boyfriend (I saw it when it had already began so I could miss any surer indicator)... So anyway, dispite my long paragraph, this is the point, there's a need for more data on the characters and episode guide and plot and less focus on the extended cast...Herle King 09:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

RESPONSE: There are many other places on the web that has all that information you want. I suggest you watch a few more episodes before you come here and ask for other people to do free work, on a show you barely know anything about.

i got something to say
cbs own fox when it canceled dark angel. cbs cancleed joan of arcadia. cbas owned fox canceled titus and family. it goes on. cbs suck it.
 * It sure sounds like you have to say it in a hurry.

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 * Duh! Read a few television biographies. It is commonly admitted that the likes and dislikes of TV executives and certain key advertisers for a show are far more important than demographic numbers for shows above a certain minimum performance. Conceptually in network terms the majority of American people will zone out to a very broad spectrum of pretty low quality TV programs. You may have noticed that sweeps weeks and unified network season premieres are pretty much non-events nowadays. So more than ever TV programs really compete primarily for attention from TV executives including local station managers -- NOT TV audiences. Similarly public TV content follows the desires of a few intellectual executive committees rather than representational voting (Thank God).

 * Executives can settle for lower network profit margins to express their own opinion of what programming lineups show be. Advertisers for essential daily products (lots of people buy them regardless) can advertise on networks with lower numbers if the show premise offends them. At least up to a point, those points being why most top TV executives eventually get fired rather than retired and why certain word of mouth products fade from the next generation's memory.

 * But someone really hated JoA. Negative mood (hopeless) cliffhangers like season two are intentional stakes put in shows to make sure they don't resurrect without overwhelming cash backing. Of course another factor for cancellation could be that many recent TV shows with big name actors and actresses are made with very limited commitments. That is I also suspect lots of actors were ready to move on to fresher projects unless paid a lot more for season 3. And a few of them were fair big names who likely started off commanding pretty healthy salaries. I wouldn't be surprised if for example Steenburgen said "Two years was a nice change of pace but I got to get back to movies and stage".

69.23.120.164 17:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to add to above that the fact the Jennifer love hewit had a pilot for the Ghost Whisperer probably had alot to do with it too. She was a bigger name than Amber Tamblien. Clearly network executives don't care what the audience thinks or Conan would still have the tonight show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.250.214.115 (talk) 07:40, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Opening song
When I added the openning song words, I added "Trying to make his way home" twice because I think it is repeated. Would someone else specifically check? Val42 23:18, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's repeated. I shortened it in the name of brevity. It doesn't seem to me that repeating the line in print adds anything. Lyrics are problematic in a copyright sense anyway, although brief quotations tend to be kosher under fair use. -- Decumanus 23:31, 2005 Apr 23 (UTC)
 * Are you sure the song is sung by Joan Osborne? It sounds nothing like her, and I was under the impression it was a cover by someone else... Foofy 06:23, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Me bad, checked a dozen or so search results and it was indeed her, she must have redone it. :) Foofy 06:29, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Joan of Arcadia in Canada?
Other than U.S. networks appearing on Canadian cable and satellite lineups, was the show aired on any of the Canadian networks (CTV, CBC, Global, etc.)?
 * CTV simulcast it. -- Gridlock Joe 02:06, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

The Town of Arcadia
I've never seen the show but I'd thought that I would like to say that there is a city in southern California called Arcadia, so it could possibly be the same one in the show instead of a fictional one. Just a little input. -- unsigned comment
 * Although it was never emphasized, the show did show the Maryland flag in the police station and the cars had Maryland license tags. -- unsigned answer to Arcadia question

Missing Scenes on the DVD Pilot?
When this show was being broadcast I was a loyal and attentive viewer. I've had the DVD set for season one for over a year--but just got around to watching the pilot and the first episode tonight. (10/20/06)

I'm really puzzled. There seems to be quite a bit that I remember from the broadcast pilot missing from the pilot on the DVD. (?)

The "thug" who was killing the women in Arcadia should have been interrogated by the chief and his detective. The mother of the first woman who was killed should have come and thanked the chief once the murder of her daughter was solved. None of that was on the DVD version of the pilot. Is the DVD pilot missing scenes or am I remembering scenes that were never broadcast. (?)

I'm pretty disappointed. I hope there aren't omissions like this on the rest of the DVD. It's like the pilot was an hour and a half show when broadcast, that was shrunk down to 45 minutes on the DVD. (?)

 * I've watched a recording from CBS HDTV and it was only 45 minutes long, so I'm pretty sure it doesn't have the scenes that you describe. Also, you can look at  for a transcript of the pilot – beware of spyware pop-ups on that site, however.  Thanks.   — Lee J Haywood 08:26, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Page recommendation
Someone should make a list of the various incarnations God took over the course of the show, with the actors playing them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.50.177.18 (talk • contribs)

YES YES YES! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.146.45.110 (talk • contribs)

There was a list and someone deleted it (or possibly moved it). The history and this Talk page fails to provide a reason for the removal. Reverted the deletion. If the article needs to be shortened then the tedious list of broadcasters seems like a far better candidate for removal. -- Horkana (talk) 05:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Isn’t Joan the protagonist? Or was it actually the dad? I’m confused, I’m sorry. - sep 17 2023 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:16D0:5410:C81F:F0B5:7B47:F2BE (talk) 00:53, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Sad State of the Country TV Audience
The cancellation of Season 3 is a sad reflection of the state of TV audiences and studios. I watched all the episodes season 1 and 2 and it is one of the few shows that really touched my heart. Instead we are inundated with shows that although admittedly may be "more exciting", probably kill brain cells and reduce IQ levels.

Having looked around on the web, I do not see it likely that the show will be resurrected. If it is I doubt Amber Tamblyn who makes the show can be persuaded to return, although I hope so. Almost everyone else can be replaced although it would be nice if they stayed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.22.50.21 (talk) 09:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC).

 * I just can't believe they got away with saying this God was also Allah. That sticks in most Americans' craw, it's got to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 00:26, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Assign Blame Where It's Due
The paragraph beginning "But someone really hated JoA" is full of words like "could be" and "I suspect". It's a documented fact who cancelled JOAN: CBS president Leslie Moonves, a glorified bean counter who thinks you get a successful network by cloning previous hits(CSI, CSI Miami, CSI New York, NCIS -- need I say more?) and is suspicious of anything original. User:CharlesTheBold 00:06, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Where are you seeing such a paragraph? Wahkeenah 09:11, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

The last paragraph of "I got something to say" on the discussion tab. CharlesTheBold 04:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Discussion is often just peoples' opinion. It's supposed to be about article improvement, but not always. Nothing in it is "canon" even by the standards of Wikipedia.

 * On another note when I se how bizarre and irritating Ghost Whisperer has become, not that it was ever great to begin with, I miss this show more than ever. It was sort of wishy-washy at times, but at least it didn't get into any woo-woo occult conspiracy stuff that I saw.--T. Anthony 07:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Proposals to remove sections
A lot of people have put a lot of work into the "International" Section of this article but if you think in terms of an encyclopedia how much of that information if any is actually notable for a television series which has ceased production? Is it really worth mentioning anything more than it was first broadcast on CBS? Sure the list might be useful to casual readers wanting to find out where they can see the show locally but the information will be transitory and subject to frequent change. I would suggest (re)moving that section from the article, possibly putting it here in the discussion section for a time if people feel it is useful even if it isn't generally notable or encyclopedic. -- Horkana (talk) 00:18, 6 April 2008 (UTC) (who figures an article like this should about a finished TV Series should be reaching a stable state and also be almost finished by now.)
 * Never got around to it but someone else removed the International Broadcasts section. Shame they didn't comment here. The different god characters section was removed too but I'll reinstate that unless there is strong justification for removing it, one of the more interesting sections of the article.  -- Horkana (talk) 23:10, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Reverted changes by 68.45.235.240 and reinstated the Cast and Crew sections. Maybe the Crew section could go but the Cast section should not be removed without some kind of discussion or consensus. Unfortunately it seems protected pages are limited to controversial topics or pages which are consistently vandalized, there is no concept of protecting pages as they become increasingly stable.  Retitled this section in the hope that others might comment here before removing sections such as Cast in future, or discuss the reintroduction of sections such as international broadcast.  -- Horkana (talk) 23:27, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

What does this mean?
The following appears (bizarely) in the Premise section: "Its controversial cancellation, along with other similar moves in the media, such as cancellations of Third Watch, American Dreams, and Judging Amy, produced an outcry from many Americans who felt that their entertainment tastes and demands were being completely ignored." What does it mean? What links those four shows and seperates them from all the shows that didn't cancelled? 86.136.205.220 (talk) 02:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I read it to mean that public opinion is not the driving force behind executive decisions with regard to which shows 'live', and which shows 'die'. Obviously this is more of a personal opinion than citated fact (which seems to be the ultimate goal of anyone trying to offer a point of interest on Wikipedia), but it is sad to think of how many shows with immense potential have been cancelled for reasons that the public never understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.206.254 (talk) 14:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Citation Needed
Someone tagged the article with a request for citations but unfortunately didn't mark any specific parts of the article with requests for citation. Most of the information here comes from the show itself or the DVD (the names for the different representations of God for example). A few episode references and general references (more than the 2 at the time of writing) should be a reasonable enough effort to remove the request for citations, or at least replace it with a comment asking for specific requests rather than a broad tag on the whole article. -- Horkana (talk) 23:40, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Just glancing through it, the following need citations: airdates, theme song section, production section, reception section, and DVD releases. Ω  pho  is  23:42, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Hilary Duff
How is one appearance by Hilary Duff notable enough for inclusion? Ω pho  is  10:10, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

 * I'm preserving the article as it has been stable for a long time, and only making constructive changes. I'm not going to argue notability of show that ran for 2 seasons, it's hard enough getting citations for any of the article at this point without trying to prove notability of details. Hilary Duff should be mentioned in some way, please suggest the best way to mention her. I agree a whole separate section for her in isolation seems odd but even Wentworth Miller only 2 made appearances, Zachary Quinto only made one appearance as Pretentious Filmmaker God (1 episode, 2004. P.O.V. He was on Lizzie Maguire too incidentally from his IMDB profile). Deleting is easy, making constructive edits and finding sources is hard. -- Horkana (talk) 11:10, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sources is what Wikipedia is entirely based off of. If you are unable to give any reason for why Duff's appearance should be listed other than "because it's been this way", then it should be removed. Looking at the page, the entire list of God's portrayers should be removed as Fancruft. Ω  pho  is  15:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You miss the point that this entire article is old enough and difficult enough to source anything for that you could claim you are doing "the right thing" by deleting most or even all of it. I'm assuming the edits were made in good faith, I don't think massively cutting down an article that has been largely stable and unchallenged for a long time is really best practice. Other editors disagree and would ruin good older articles, holding them to the same high standard they would hold an article newly created this week. I ask you not to ruin this article, judge older articles in good faith by what was expected at the time. There are many more constructive ways you could change the article. You could rephrase the list of god incarnations in prose that goes to elaborating the style of the show, rather than being a dull list some might deem trivial through a flaw of presentation.  If we were deleting anything I'd delete the list of episodes (which I added) which although factual are tediously boring and offer far less insight into the serious than the list of god incarnations. A short summary of each episode could massively improve this article. There is so much that could be done to improve the article, please focus on those things before rushing to make easy deletions.  -- Horkana (talk) 00:48, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You have yet to give any reason why Hillary Duff is a notable guest. I'm sorry, but you can't use the excuse "it's too hard to search for sources". If they are notable appearances as you claim, then there would be sources showing this. Ω  pho  is  07:20, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I notice now the Guest cast heading covers not just Duff but the incarnations of god since most of them are only guest cast but a few you could argue are recurring. Do you want to delete the whole section? That wouldn't be an improvement to the article. The section might be improved by including other guest stars besides those who played incarnations of God, I notice Sydney Tamiia Poitier appeared in eight episodes (more than she appeared in Veronica Mars, where she appeared in the credits for a whole season) and some of the other guest cast might be worth including. -- Horkana (talk) 20:56, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't suggest removing them. I just asked why Duff is notable when you reverted my removal of her. Recurring guests like Poitier are notable enough and can be included, but not just people who make one unnotable appearance. Ω  pho  is  21:07, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Duff is fairly famous, and was at the time unlike Zachary Quinto, and more notable than an appearance by Amber Tamblyn's father. In my edit summary I noted that perhaps it should be formatted differently, the convenient layout of the section grouping the god incarnations together might give a mistaken impression to editors like yourself that some great or disproportionate claim of notability was being made, when I'd say she is about as notable as the rest of the section. MTV and VH1 (the latter might be an adequate reference) and there do actually seem to be some articles still out there about it, more than I'd expected after this long. (Trying to get references for older articles like 80's movies is a pain, other editors have unreasonable expectations about long standing undisputed parts of articles, expecting the same level of citations as they would for this weeks news. So I may have overreacted a bit earlier) You can add that VH1 link to the article or I will, if you want to make/suggest formatting changes or add other guest stars to the article so the Hillary Duff bit doesn't seem incongruous please do so. -- Horkana (talk) 21:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Just because an actress is famous doesn't make one appearance notable. From what you said, the character never returns, and doesn't appear to add anything to the overall storyline. As for the incarnations of God, the recurring ones should stay, but any making few appearances should probably be removed. Ω  pho  is  21:51, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Joe Mantegna
Not sure how to integrate it with the article yet but this AVClub interview with Joe Mantegna has a chunk about Joan of Arcadia. He says "it’s one of the proudest things I’ve done" and explains how he got involved with the show and other bits and pieces. -- Horkana (talk) 21:05, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

More references
The tag requesting more references is a bit outdated and more sources have been added since the article wast tagged. I would delete it now, only more sources such as TV Squad would still be an improvement. The AV Club doesn't really have any sources (3 search results 1 of which is already included in the article). IGN doesn't have much either, just two articles, one for each season of DVDs. -- Horkana (talk) 00:35, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Capitalisation of religious pronouns
I have reverted Wkharrisjr's reversion of my edit. The assertion that "Western tradition is to capitalize "He" when refering to the Judeo-Christian God" is untrue - it is a point of style that varies. The school of thought that capitalises pronouns referring to God is arguably archaic and limited to a few (Christian) religious bodies (i.e. it's POV). More importantly, MOS:CAPS clearly states that the standard on Wikipedia is not to capitalise:
 * Pronouns referring to deities, or nouns (other than names) referring to any material or abstract representation of any deity, human or otherwise, are not capitalized.

Since this is an article about a television program, not a central article on Christianity or even religion more generally, I can't see how there could be a case for making an exception. Also, capitalisation is not currently used consistently in this article. Only the first paragraph of the plot section uses "He", the rest of the article sticks to "he". — Joseph Roe Tk • Cb, 08:21, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I propose that List of Joan of Arcadia cast members be merged into Joan of Arcadia. I think that the content in the List of Joan of Arcadia cast members article can easily be explained in the context of Joan of Arcadia, and the List of Joan of Arcadia cast members article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Joan of Arcadia will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. NeoBatfreak (talk) 07:30, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Merging LoE back to this article
I made note at WT:TV about a discussion presently going on about when it's appropriate to split the episode list out of a TV series article. From reading it, I'm gathering the split should not occur simply when a series goes to its second season, but when the size of the "readable prose" (without any accounting of the summaries in episode tables) reaches a certain level per WP:SIZESPLIT. The discussion is reiterating that guideline in determining the threshold for splitting.

While I've been watching the WT:TV discussion, I was surprised to see WP:BOLD edits by that merged the LoE content of this series back into this article, per this and this. Not that I'm objecting to this move, on its face, in light of the current WT:TV discussion, but certainly no discussion has happened at all here. Kind of an out-of-the-blue thing, even with my paying attention over at WT:TV.

The series reached 45 episodes over two seasons (and personally, I wish it would've lasted longer - it was a good series). I'm thinking with that episode count, that's on the edge of qualifying for being split (and it was with these edits by back in September 2010 ). However, the "readable prose" word count size from what I'm seeing (using the script found here - which I discovered following the WT:TV discussion - and this would be with or without the episode tables there) is around 6k, so not sure whether it should've stayed split or the merge was the right move. MPFitz1968 (talk) 14:58, 25 June 2018 (UTC) last edited 17:38, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Mistake in a source talking about the show and representation of Asians
The author Eric Michael Bryant wrote in Not Like Me: A Field Guide for Influencing a Diverse World (2010) that the show Joan of Arcadia of misrepresents Arcadia, California by not including Asian characters that reflect the ethnic mix in Arcadia.
 * Bryant, Eric Michael. Not Like Me: A Field Guide for Influencing a Diverse World. Harper Collins, 2010. ISBN 0310329965, 9780310329961. p. 132.
 * "Joan of Arcadia, which took place in Arcadia High School, included[...]However Joan of Arcadia was strikingly devoid of Asian characters. The Arcadia High School I know in the LA area is in a predominately Asian area, and about two-thirds of the students are Asian."

However the show Joan of Arcadia is set in the fictional Arcadia, Maryland. This is confirmed in this source:
 * Coker, Stephanie L. "Joan of Arcadia: A Modern Maiden on Trial" (in Part 1. Personal and Political Desires). In: Pagès, Meriem and Karolyn Kinane (editors). The Middle Ages on Television: Critical Essays. McFarland & Company, April 16, 2015. ISBN 0786479418, 9780786479412. Start: p. 31. CITED: p. 36.

WhisperToMe (talk) 05:15, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

The Many Incarnations of God
They left off the list my favorite: "Liquor Store Clerk god", actor Gary Anthony Williams, from episode 13 in Season One (Recreation) where Joan and Luke throw a party at their parents home while parents Will and Helen are at the SPA for the weekend. Joan: "God smokes?" God: "I don't inhale". 12.45.51.202 (talk) 14:06, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

God could be a woman...
In the show, God clearly appears as both men and women so the constant referral of this article to God as 'He' and 'Him' isn't exactly accurate. I wouldn't capitalize any of the pronouns or 'Hell' either for that matter as the God of this show is also not strictly Judeo-Christian in philosophy. 2607:FEA8:BEE7:9800:F949:D2F8:EA52:6EFF (talk) 02:21, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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Chronology
''Moved from the article... - SoM 23:18, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)''

What follows is a [chronology] (i.e., reading order) for all of the comics in Marvel's MC2 line. Flashbacks (marked "FB") are included at their correct chronological positions, but it may be advisable to read the smaller ones (consisting of a few panels) at the same position as the rest of the issue in which it appears. Pages are counted without including advertisements. The chronology was researched and compiled by Jimmy Flowers.

A-Next 10-FB Spider-Girl 10 [Time Travel] (Page 9, panel 3 through Page 20) Spider-Girl 11 [Time Travel](Pages 1-19) Spider-Girl 44 (Page 15, panels 3 and 5) Spider-Girl 48-FB1 (Page 6, panels 2-3) Spider-Girl 48-FB2 (Page 9) Spider-Girl 49-FB1 (Page 1, panels 2, 4, and 6) Spider-Girl 49-FB2 (Page 7, panels 2+) Spider-Girl 49-FB3 (Page 9, panel 2 thru Page 10, panel 3) Spider-Girl 48-FB3 (Page 10, panels 5-6) Spider-Girl 49-FB4 (Page 14, panels 2-4) Spider-Girl 49-FB5 (Page 16, panel 3 thru Page 19, panel 4) Spider-Girl 7 (Pages 21-22) Spider-Girl 32-FB1 (Page 11, panels 2 through 3) Spider-Girl 32-FB2 (Page 14, panel 3) Darkdevil 1-FB (Page 21, panel 4 thru Page 22) Spider-Girl 39-FB (Page 15, panel 4) Spider-Girl 40-FB1 (Pages 13-14) A-Next 7-FB1 (Page 7, panel 2 through Page 8) A-Next 7-FB2 (Pages 12-13) A-Next 7-FB3 (Pages 18-19) J2 7-FB1 (Pages 6-8) Fantastic Five 4-FB1 (Page 5, panel 3 through Page 15 and Pages 18-19) Spider-Girl 32-FB2 (Page 14, panels 4 thru 5) J2 1 A-Next 1 What If (Volume 2) 105 J2 2 A-Next 2 Spider-Girl 1 A-Next 3 (Up to Page 20, panel 2) J2 3-FB (Page 3 through Page 15, panel 1) A-Next 3 (Page 20, panel 3+) A-Next 4 J2 3 (Pages 1-2, Page 15 panel 2 through Page 23) Spider-Girl 2 to 5 J2 4 and 5 Spider-Girl 0 A-Next 5 Spider-Girl 6 and 7 J2 6 Stories 1 to 3 Spider-Girl 8 J2 7 Stories 1 to 3 Spider-Girl 9 J2 8 Spider-Girl 10 and 11 A-Next 6 J2 9 Stories 1 to 3 A-Next 7 to 11 The Buzz 1-FB1 (Page 4, panel 3 thru page 9) Spider-Girl 12 The Buzz 1-FB2 (Page 10) The Buzz 1 The Buzz 2 (Pages 1-8) Spider-Girl Annual 1 Stories 1 (Pages 1-25) 4 (Pages 47 thru 48) and 5 (Pages 49-55) A-Next 12 Fantastic Five 1 Wild Thing 0 Wild Thing 1 Spider-Girl 13 to 15 Fantastic Five 2 to 4 Wild Thing 2 Story 1 and 2 Wild Thing 3 Stories 1 and 2 Fantastic Five 5 Spider-Girl 16 Wild Thing 4 Stories 1 and 2 Spider-Girl 17 Wild Thing 5 Stories 1 and 2 Spider-Girl 18 to 22 The Buzz 2 (Pages 9+) Spider-Girl 23 The Buzz 3 (Pages 1-5) Spider-Girl 24 Spider-Girl One-Half The Buzz 3 (Pages 6+) Spider-Girl 25 to 27 Darkdevil 1 to 3 Spider-Girl 28 to 87 Last Hero Standing 1 to 5 Spider-Girl 88 to 100 Last Planet Standing 1 to 5

I have merged successive issues of the same series (most notably Spider-Girl) and stories from the same issues of given series (if they were listed in order) into single lines to make it better readable without disrupting the order itself. Also added What If v2 105 to the original list, since there the MC2 universe was first featured in Marvel publications, not exactly sure if the placement is right but will check up to confirm that and readjust if neccesary. --The Fifth Horseman 15:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Corrected placement of What If v2 105 and Spider-Girl 0, added Spider Girl 89-100 and Last Planet Standing 1-5.--The Fifth Horseman 16:37, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Cut-off
The article mentions that several plot points of recent comics (Decimation, "Avengers Disassembled", Thor's destruction of Asgard) didn't occur in MC2 continuity, and on Spider-Girl's page it says that "Spider-Man: The Other" never occurred either. Given that would it be accurate to say categorically that there's some cut-off point after which events in Earth-616 are no longer canonical? If so, when and where do you think it would be located? I suppose such a statement might be too broad, and some events may not have been explicitly referenced as happening or not happening but...well, I don't know MC2. Vignettelante 00:02, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

The earliest known branching occured with Spider-Girl. Basing on her Wiki entry, I'd say the pivotal point happened somwhere in ASM#434 or #435, when Aunt May was brought back instead. --The Fifth Horseman 15:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

While, there's a certain divergin point, it isn't as cut and dry as we think. Even though MC2 branches off Earth-616, Tom is known to make references to the Marvel Universe 1999 and up:
 * Such as having Araña appearing in the first Spider-Man Family One Shot. The MC2 Arana apparently had an active career earlier than her 616 counterpart.  Spider-Girl even believed Arana made her debut after Spider-Man's retirement.

 * While small, in Spider-Girl #54, Peter mentions to May a time he fought a band of mimes. Refering of course to a story that was written by Paul Jenkins.  66.233.190.223 10:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Tom Defalco has stated it bracnhed off in Amazing Spider-Man #441 (revealed in Spider-Girl #48). Sononsj

While true, it doesn't mean he won't fit the events in the MC2 when it strikes him. It simply happens at a different point in time than it does in Earth-616. As shown in Spider-Girl #39, Mattie Franklin did have a career as Spider-Woman in the MC2 past. 71.115.231.16 04:54, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Dead characters question
While there are rules concerning the death of a character with the list of differences between Earth-982, would a section for 616 characters be appropriate, for the sake of references that is? 66.233.190.223 10:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Please explain what do you exactly mean by that.--The Fifth Horseman 09:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Would it be ok to add a section for all of the mainstream Marvel heroes who are dead prior to Spider-Girl #0 and further. Characters like:

 * Norman Osborn/Green Goblin
 * Liz Allen Osborn/Nelson (In MC2 continuity she and Foggy Nelson stayed together).
 * Doctor Octopus (He appeared in #3 of The Buzz and dies prior to Spider-Girl #68).

There are more, but you get the idea. 71.115.231.16 09:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

In other words, a list of all deceased characters in that universe? I don't see what purpose could that serve. What do you intend that for? --The Fifth Horseman 14:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

 * It's to serve as information to those new to the MC2 Comics. Is information on here suppose to be suitable to the US Goverment?  If niot, then can the attitude.

And again, I'm refering to the major 616 characters that died in that universe. 71.115.231.16 01:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

The Book That Wouldn't Die
Somebody should write up a section about the many times Spider-Girl has survived cancellation. For a while there it seemed like an annual event. The book has come back from the brink of the abyss so many times that it was even noted on the cover (I think after the forth attempt).

 * And then, one time, it didn't come back. --188.33.164.68 (talk) 21:49, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

does mc2 have any x-men
random thought i was jsut wodnering why a  mc2  never had an xmen book i am guessing they must have an xmen as they have wolverine and J2 but not anything else unlesss i am wrong. i know other alternate universes such as 2099 had x-men titles.--Dr noire (talk) 21:59, 29 December 2007 (UTC) There is a group called X-People, but it never had much exposure beyond an occasional guest appearance or two in other MC2 titles. --188.33.164.68 (talk) 21:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Original intention
The article makes it sound like DeFalco always intended the MC2 line to be set in the present, instead of being set in an (alternate) future. As far as I know, this was not the case until the crossover with the main (616) reality established it so, and only because DeFalco was *made* to fix things this way by Marvel. Are there any particular quotes proving it either way? -Wilfredo Martinez (talk) 21:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I remember reading an interview where DeFaclo talked about how future he was going to make it, whether or not there would be flying cars, huge changes in fashion, and that sort of thing, but he said that since technology really hasn't leaped that far forward in a decade or two in the past, he didn't see the need for it then. I don't recall where that interview as though. Possibly Wizard. (72.184.56.92 (talk) 00:29, 16 May 2009 (UTC))

What about the American Dream comics?
There is a five-issue miniseries that has ben collected in TPB form. Is this not part of the MC2 continuity? I don't have it so cannot say for sure ... PhS (talk) 22:20, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Is part of, indeed. --188.33.164.68 (talk) 21:48, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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I've removed the following from the article:

List of known major differences between Earth-982 and Earth-616 Several events that occurred in the mainstream Marvel Universe are known to have still occurred in the MC2 Universe. This portion of the article is dedicated to listing the known major differences between both universes.

hidden text: NOTE TO CONTRIBUTORS: This list should be used only to note down events and characters whose Earth-616 and Earth-982 histories and deaths contradict each other.
 * Cassandra Lang is a member of the new Avengers under the alias of Stinger and does not possess the growth powers of her Earth-616 counterpart. As of 2012, the 616 counter part died in the Avengers The Child Crusade.
 * Jessica Drew never regained her powers, she is not queen of the Skrulls and Secret Invasion never happened. However, it is hinted within the pages of A-Next #2 that Mainframe mentioned there was a Skrull invasion in this universe's past.
 * May Parker was returned to Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson-Parker by Kaine, later becoming Spider-Girl.
 * During the Gathering of Five Storyline, Green Goblin died in his final battle with Spider-Man and Spider-Man lost a leg. For a while he attempted to continue his crime fighting career with a prosthetic but gave it up shortly thereafter. This means most of Spider-Man's career post Gathering of Five never happened.#
 * Harry Osborn's death in Spectacular Spider-Man #200 remains valid in MC2 continuity, whereas his 616 counterpart was revived successfully by his father Norman and kept in hiding across Europe until he resurfaced during the Brand New Day storyline. As a result, Normie Osborn grows up without his father, gradually growing insane and resenting Peter Parker.
 * The death of Kraven the Hunter remains valid in MC2. As a result of this, the events of Grim Hunt have not come to pass, and thus Kaine is not dragged into its events.
 * Curt Connors' wife and son remain alive in this continuity.
 * As Peter Parker remains married to Mary Jane in this continuity, Carlie Cooper does not become his girlfriend, but the Parkers still meet her during an investigation and Carlie offers Peter a card with information on how to contact and join the NYPD, saying they need a few good scientists there. Peter would eventually take up Carlie's offer shortly after giving up his role as Spider-Man and now works for the force in the pages of Spider-Girl.
 * Scott Lang returned to active duty as Ant-Man after a period of retirement.
 * The Avengers disbanded after a battle with their evil counterparts on an alternate Earth, resulting in the deaths of several Avengers, (including Henry Pym), and the events of Avengers Disassembled never occurred as a result.
 * Additionally, the events of all subsequent Earth-616 crossovers never occurred. This applies to any and all future crossovers unless stated otherwise.
 * The death of Aunt May as shown in The Amazing Spider-Man #400 remains valid in MC2 continuity, whereas her Earth-616 counterpart was revealed to be alive in The Spectacular Spider-Man #263, with a genetic clone dying in her place. This was confirmed in the letters page of Spider-Girl #48. Therefore, since Aunt May had already died, and since the Superhuman Registration Act never existed on Earth-982, Spider-Man never publicly revealed his identity, the events of One More Day never occurred and therefore contribute to Spider-Girl's existence.
 * As Peter Parker does not reveal his identity to the world in this continuity, the events of "One Moment In Time" do not occur, thus characters like Felicia Hardy retain their knowledge of Peter's dual identity.
 * Flash Thompson is never enlisted to serve in the middle east. As a result, he does not lose both of his legs and does not play host to the Venom symbiote. He goes on to reconcile with former love interest Felicia Hardy and marries her. Although they would later divorce, the two were able to produce two children from their union: Gene and Felicity Thompson.
 * Thor never destroyed Asgard and is ruling the realm much as his father Odin did in the past, although Asgard was eventually restored in the 616 universe.
 * Wonder Man's death in Force Works #1 remains valid in MC2 continuity. Constructs of him battled the current Avengers in A-Next #8 while protecting the Scarlet Witch, who was in a coma at the time.
 * Captain America was killed in battle by Loki instead of being assassinated by Crossbones and Sharon Carter, his life energies are converted into a star. Whereas Captain America was eventually discovered to have been displaced in time and space by the bullet which "killed him" in the 616 continuity, Captain America remains dead within the MC2 universe
 * Speedball did not become Penance.
 * The events of the Civil War have not come to pass in general, mainly due the disbanding of the original New Warriors and the original Avengers, as well as Iron Man's retirement and Captain America remaining in an alternate reality.
 * Hulk was never sent to Sakaar and the events of Planet Hulk or World War Hulk never happened, making Skaar and Hiro-Kala non-existent. However, it is shown within A-Next #3 that the Hulk did gain a son named David by an unknown spouse.
 * Reed and Sue Richards' daughter is not conceived in this continuity, leaving Franklin to grow up as an only child.
 * Mattie Franklin became Spider-Woman through unknown means due to Peter interrupting the Gathering of Five. She was briefly mentioned within the pages of Spider-Girl.

This is editor-created, and not cited to a reliable source as to the relative importance or nonsense of these connections. Until each and every one is cited, we cannot include it. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 16:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

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Article says: ''with the first appearances of most Marvel heroes having taken place fifteen years earlier than in main continuity. '' This seems deeply confusing to anyone not intimately familiar with the sliding timescale. The first appearance of Spider-Man in the main continuity occurred in 1962. When the MC2 was introduced in 1998, the first appearance of its Spider-Man presumably occurred some time in the 70s (since May was presumably born, at that point, in 1983 or so). That is not fifteen years before Spider-Man appeared in the main continuity. I understand what the article is trying to say, but it only makes sense if you understand the sliding timescale, which the article doesn't really explain. (I mean, not that the sliding timescale actually makes any sense if you spend more than about five seconds thinking about it, but we can ignore that for these purposes). I think this needs to be more clearly written. john k (talk) 15:07, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

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King's County (electoral district)

King's County was a federal electoral district in Prince Edward Island, Canada, that was represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1873 to 1896.

This riding was created in 1873 when Prince Edward Island joined the Canadian Confederation.

It was abolished in 1892 when it was redistributed into East Queen's and King's ridings.

It consisted of King's County, and elected two members.

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Talk:Cinderella Man

Resemblance of the movie to A Beautiful Mind
Many observers will immediately notice a striking resemblance to the 2001 movie A Beautiful Mind. Um, no, I see no resemblance at all. What resemblance is there? RickK 23:19, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)

 * They have the same star and are shot by the same director in the same directing style (that is, similar angles and focusing) and even with the same lighting. Plus both are period historical dramas set in the mid-20th century.  I just realized I should add that to the page.  --Coolcaesar 05:32, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * This is slightly puzzling: the movie hasn't been released yet. The "similarities" that can be gleaned from pre-release material--posters, trailers--is trivial.  And the quoted remark takes the peculiar line not of noting that there are similarities, but of predicting the viewer's judgments.  My verdict: this bit was added by someone from the production company as a bit of pre-publicity.  I'm not sure that makes it unsuitable for Wikipedia.  But it's peculiar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.173.131.77 (talk • contribs)  on May 26, 2005.

 * All of Orson Welles' movies must be striking resemblences too, and all of John Ford's (except the ones in color). And any one of a dozen others. Billy Wilder. Did you just notice directors have styles, and favorite actors, and ensemble casts they like working with? Wow...--Buckboard 15:57, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Uh, the article lists reasons that could why it might have resemblances to A Beautiful Mind but doesn't actually point any of them out. Having the same star or director is not a resemblance.--216.75.93.110 14:17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree, this section is silly, since the connection is a rather banal one. I mean, Ron Howard pretty much always uses the same key production personnel (as do most directors). The only similarity of any note is the fact that Russell Crowe is in both films. But this is hardly big news - Tom Hanks has also featured in two Ron Howard films, playing vaguely similar characters. --Genedecanter 01:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Opening song
Anyone know the name of that great depression song from the beggining. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.225.129.10 (talk • contribs) on August 16, 2005.

"Answer Man" page incorrect?
The "Answer Man" page can't actually be completely correct. Baer never lost the title to Louis - he lost the title to Braddock, obviously. Louis did defeat Baer in a fight, though, but that was after Braddock had already beaten him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.223.146.144 (talk • contribs) on December 8, 2005.

A couple things...
First of all, the fight between Baer and Braddock was not a "foregone" conclusion. It was Braddock who had the broken hand, not Baer. I removed that sentence.

Second, here is one of the stated reasons for why it the movie didn't do well at the box office: "During the morning of June 6, 2005, Russell Crowe, the lead actor of Cinderella Man, threw a telephone at a clerk at the Mercer Hotel in New York during a dispute. The attack left the hotel employee injured and dealt a blow to both Crowe's and Cinderella Man’s public image, thanks to negative publicity by the entertainment media and the hotel employees' union."

C'mon, are people really cancelling plans to go to the movies because of this? "I don't think I want to see the movie after all, honey. Russell Crowe threw a phone at somebody." Aplomado 01:37, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Colloquialisms?
There are a couple of phrases in the article that I found confusing, and I suspect could be revised for better clarity, especially considering the international readership of Wikipedia. Under "Reaction", it is stated: "...as international releases will then be gravy." and, under "Depiction of Max Baer": "...the fact that he gave purses from his bouts to Campbell's family.". The first is, I'm sure, a colloquiallism that I'm not too familiar with, so I can't directly translate myself, and the second seems unclear.'Purse' can mean money, I understand, but is much more strongly associated with either a container for money, or a certain type of bag. If Baer gave money from his career to the Campbell family, it would be easier if the article stated so. If anyone more informed could rewrite these two phrases, I think the article's clarity might benefit.Chrisbang 23:17, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The prize money in boxing (and horse racing) is almost always referred to as the purse. See this usage in an article icWales--216.75.93.110 14:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed, using the word purse in this context is correct and appropriate. KyuzoGator 15:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

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Portrayal of Max Baer
In the plot section, I added a parenthetical mention that the movie demonizes Max Baer, but one of us should move it or add more about that inaccuracy into the "reception" section. The inaccuracy was widely covered at the time of the film's release and it's easily found online.David Couch (talk) 19:22, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

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Prince County (electoral district)

Prince County was a federal electoral district in Prince Edward Island, Canada, that was represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1873 to 1896.

This riding was created in 1873 when Prince Edward island joined the Canadian Confederation.

It was abolished in 1896 when it was redistributed into East Prince and West Prince ridings.

It consisted of Prince County, and elected two members.

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Queen's County (electoral district)

Queen's County was a federal electoral district in Prince Edward Island, Canada, that was represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1873 to 1896.

This riding was created in 1873 when Prince Edward Island joined the Canadian Confederation.

It was abolished in 1892 when it was redistributed into East Prince, East Queen's and West Queen's ridings. In 1904 the two-seat riding of Queen's was created.

The riding of Queen's County consisted of Queen's County, and elected two members.

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Matthew, Count of Foix

Matthew (c. 1363 – 1398) was a count of Foix an viscount of Béarn. He was son of Roger-Bernard V of Foix viscount of Castelbon and Géraude de Navailles. In 1391 he succeeded Gaston Phoebus, his first cousin once removed, as count. He asserted the sovereignty of Béarn and, as son-in-law of John I, contested the Crown of Aragon with John's brother Martin I from 1396. He and his wife, Joanna, had no children.

Accession to office
Despite his pursuit for sovereignty, Gaston Phoebus ultimately bequeathed the lordship of Béarn to the king of France. On 8 August 1391, Béarnese leaders duly gathered in Orthez and designated representatives, establishing the Estates-General of Béarn.

They also elected Matthew de Castellbo as new legitimate lord of Béarn, also imposing on him the need to obtain from the king of France, Charles VI, the renunciation of the recent Treaty of Toulouse whereby the French monarch would gain access to the lordship of Béarn. Matthew manoeuvred quickly in this respect, obtaining early on his recognition by Richard II, king of England, and Charles VI, king of France, as lord of Béarn.

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Sin Sex & Salvation

Sin Sex & Salvation (1994), is an EP released by KMFDM and Raymond Watts (as PIG). The artist for it is usually listed as KMFDM vs. PIG. It was recently re-released in 2024. Prior to then, none of the songs had ever been re-released in any other format since its initial release, except for "Fuck Me" which appears on a bonus disc entitled 'The Year of the Pig Collection' accompanying the Canadian release of the "Juke Joint Jezebel" Giorgio Moroder mixes maxi-single, and "Secret Skin" which appears on the 'Year of the Pig' 12" four song vinyl pressing containing "Juke Joint Jezebel" as the caveat. Both were released in 1995 and are OOP as well.

Personnel

 * PIG:
 * Raymond Watts - vocals, programming
 * KMFDM:
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 * Svet Am (Günter Schulz) - guitars
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Gump Roast

"Gump Roast" is the seventeenth episode of the thirteenth season of the American animated television series The Simpsons. It originally aired on the Fox network in the United States on April 21, 2002. In the episode, Homer Simpson is honored by the townspeople at a Friars' Club Roast, until it is interrupted by Kang and Kodos.

The episode was directed by Mark Kirkland and written by Dan Castellaneta and his wife Deb Lacusta. The plot idea came about when Simpsons cast members were on hiatus following a payment dispute. This is the fifth and, to date, the last clip show The Simpsons has produced. Despite receiving a 5.7 rating and 12.2 million in viewership when first broadcast, the episode received negative reviews from critics.

Plot
Homer Simpson sits on a park bench holding a box of chocolates, when Chief Wiggum appears to arrest him for impersonating a movie character. Homer begins to tell a story from his past, but Wiggum is uninterested until Homer begins to use flashbacks. The Simpson family then arrives to take Homer to the Friars' Club, where he is roasted by Krusty the Clown and other prominent citizens of Springfield. Among them are Bart and Lisa and Mr. Burns (whose attempt to warn the people of Springfield about Homer's incompetence is taken as a joke, much to his dismay). The roasters utilize more clips from previous episodes.

Soon, Kang and Kodos arrive at the roast and declare that humans are stupid, as demonstrated by more clips. However, when they probe Maggie's brain and see her memories through a monitor, they are moved to tears (though Kodos dismissively claims they are vomiting from their eyes). Maggie's mind also reveals more clips, this time featuring various celebrities. A starstruck Kang and Kodos make a deal with the citizens of Springfield: they will spare the Earth if the townspeople give them tickets to the People's Choice Awards and the Daytime Emmys. They do, and Kang and Kodos are seen enjoying an award ceremony.

The episode ends with the song "They'll Never Stop the Simpsons", which recounts additional past plots, possible future plots, and an apology for airing this clip show.

Production
"Gump Roast" was co-written by Dan Castellaneta and his wife Deb Lacusta, while Mark Kirkland served as director. It was first broadcast on the Fox network in the United States on April 21, 2002. The idea for the episode came about when Castellaneta and the other main Simpsons cast members were on hiatus while renegotiating their salaries. Lacusta and Castellaneta, discussing the film Forrest Gump, wondered if the stories Gump told actually happened or if he made them up. They realized that Gump was similar to Homer, who's also dimwitted and has "fumbled into" an array of larger-than-life situations. When the cast members settled the salary issue and returned to work, Castellaneta and Lacusta presented their script to show runner Al Jean, who put the episode into production.

The scene in which Homer skis down a mountain (from S11E10, "Little Big Mom") is one of the show's most frequently used clips, according to Jean. The appearance of Kang and Kodos marks a rare appearance outside their usual roles in the annual Halloween episodes. "Gump Roast" was the series's last clip show. Instead, as Jean states in the episode's DVD commentary, the show now produces "trilogy episodes", which feature three separate stories based on a given theme. One of these anthology episodes has aired each season since season 14, replacing the clip shows.

The song "They'll Never Stop The Simpsons" that plays at the end of the episode was written by Simpsons writer Matt Selman and sung by Castellaneta. A parody of Billy Joel's “We Didn't Start the Fire”, it was originally the same length as that song, but was edited when the episode ended up running long. In 2011, the song was rerecorded with alternate lyrics for a music video after The Simpsons was renewed for a 24th and 25th season. Castellaneta recorded eight new takes, which were mixed with some of the original vocals.

Cultural references
The opening scene, which shows Homer sitting on a bench holding a box of chocolates, is a reference to the movie Forrest Gump. At one point Homer drunkenly quotes the film Secrets & Lies. The act that Ned Flanders and Reverend Lovejoy are performing at the roast is an homage to the Smothers Brothers, who would later appear on The Simpsons in the episode “O Brother, Where Bart Thou?”. Moe dresses as Austin Powers from the comedy film series. Dr. Hibbert wears a costume of the character Darth Vader from the Star Wars series, and Mr. Burns approaches the podium to the sound of "The Imperial March", aka "Darth Vader's Theme". The song "They'll Never Stop The Simpsons" is a parody of Billy Joel's song "We Didn't Start The Fire".

Release
In its original American broadcast on April 21, 2002, "Gump Roast" was watched by 12.2 million viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research, making it the 16th most watched television show of the night, as well as the highest-ranked show on the Fox network. It received, along with a new episode of Malcolm in the Middle, a 5.7 rating among adult viewers between ages 18 and 49, meaning it was seen by 5.7% of the population in said demographic.

Following the home video release of the thirteenth season of The Simpsons, "Gump Roast" received overwhelmingly negative reviews from critics. Both Ron Martin of 411Mania and Adam Rayner of Obsessed with Film wrote that the episode's premise is "lazy", and Rayner added that he felt "cheated". Andre Dellamorte of Collider was negative as well, writing that the episode “does a very poor job at justifying its existence". The episode's plot was criticized by reviewers; Jennifer Malkowski of DVD Verdict called the plot "lackluster" and added that it "doesn't really make sense—and I mean that last part in a bad way!" Nate Boss of Project-Blu held a similar view, stated that the plot "made no sense" and that the episode as a whole was "complete lameness." James Greene of Nerve.com put the clip show third on his list Ten Times The Simpsons Jumped the Shark, stating that "You'd think by 2002 The Simpsons would've generated enough cash for FOX that they were no longer beholden to archaic penny-saving concepts like the clip show." Some reviewers considered the episode to be the worst of the season.  However, Colin Jacobson of DVD Movie Guide stated that, even though he thought the episode was "a cheap excuse for a new episode", he found that it "provokes more laughs than many of the other season 13 episodes since it quotes better programs from the past." Furthermore, the song at the end of the episode was well received by Malkowski, who described it as the best moment of the episode.

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Bruce East

Bruce East was a federal electoral district in Ontario, Canada, that was represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1882 to 1904. This riding was created in 1882 from parts of Bruce North and Bruce South ridings.

The East Riding of the county of Bruce consisted of the townships of Culross, Greenock, Brant and Carrick, the town of Walkerton, and the village of Teeswater.

The electoral district was abolished in 1903 when it was redistributed between Bruce North and Bruce South ridings.

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Cornwall and Stormont

Cornwall and Stormont was a federal electoral district represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1882 to 1904. It was located in the province of Ontario. This riding was created in 1882 from parts of Cornwall and Stormont ridings. It consisted of the town of Cornwall and the townships of Cornwall, Osnabruck, Finch and Roxborough.

The electoral district was abolished in 1903 when it was merged into Stormont riding.

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Essex North (federal electoral district)

Essex North was a federal electoral district represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1883 to 1925. It was located in the province of Ontario. This riding was created in 1882 when Essex riding was divided between Essex North and Essex South.

It initially consisted of the townships of West Sandwich, East Sandwich, Maidstone, Rochester and West Tilbury, the towns of Sandwich and Windsor, and the village of Belle River in the county of Essex.

In 1903, it was redefined to exclude the township of West Tilbury and include the township of Sandwich South, and the town of Walkerville.

In 1914, it was redefined to include the town of Objibway, and the village of Ford City.

The electoral district was abolished in 1924 when it was redistributed between Essex East and Essex West ridings.

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Essex South (federal electoral district)

Essex South was a federal and provincial electoral district represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1882 to 1968. It was located in the province of Ontario. This riding was created in 1882 from parts of Essex riding.

It was created when the County of Essex was divided into two ridings: Essex North and Essex South. It initially consisted of the townships of Anderdon, Malden, North Colchester, South Colchester, Gosfield, Mersea, the town of Amherstburg, the villages of Leamington and Kingsville, and Pelée Island in the county of Essex.

In 1903, it was expanded to include the townships of Malden, Tilbury North, Tilbury West, Essex, and the portion of the village of Tilbury lying in the county of Essex. In 1914, it was expanded to include the village of Wheatley lying in the county of Essex.

In 1924, it was redefined to consist of the townships of Anderdon, Malden, Sandwich South, Colchester (North and South), Gosfield (North and South), Mersea and Pelee Island in the county of Essex, and the part of the village of Wheatley lying in the county of Kent. In 1933, it was expanded to exclude the township of Sandwich South, and the village of Wheatley. In 1947, it was redefined to include Pelee Island, Sandwich South, Tilbury West and the town of Essex, and exclude the village of Wheatley and the town of Tilbury.

In 1952, it was redefined to consist of the townships of Anderdon, Malden, Colchester (North and South), Gosfield (North and South), Mersea, Pelee Island, Sandwich South, Tilbury West and the town of Essex but excluding the village of Wheatley.

The electoral district was abolished in 1966 when it was redistributed between Essex and Essex—Kent ridings.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/J. T. Hardy

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. — Xezbeth 09:25, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

J. T. Hardy
Notability concerns. I have done some googling to discover this person was an unsuccessful canidate for the Missouri state legislature in 2002, and served as a Republican ward/precint chief during 2003-2004. If no other indication of notability can be found, Delete. --Allen3 talk 23:26, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete IF no notability found (as per above). Master Thief Garrett 23:54, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, notability not established. Megan1967 04:43, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I live in Missouri, and he's not significant in even local politics. A Man In Black 07:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Huron East

Huron East was a federal electoral district represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1882 to 1917. It was located in the province of Ontario. This riding was created from parts of Huron Centre, Huron North and Huron South ridings.

The East Riding of the county of Huron was initially defined to consist of the townships of Howick, Turnberry, Grey and Morris, the town of Wingham, and the villages of Brussels, Blyth and Wroxeter.

In 1903, it was expanded to include the township of Wawanosh East.

The electoral district was abolished in 1914 when it was merged into Huron North riding.

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Dikir barat

Dikir barat (Jawi: دكير بارت; ลิเกบารัต; ) is a musical form, native to the Malay Peninsula, that involves singing in groups—often in a competitive setting. Dikir barat may be performed either with a percussion instrumental accompaniment, or with no instruments at all. The origins of dikir barat are unclear; it is found in both Malaysia and Thailand, and today the Malaysia National Department for Culture and Arts actively promotes it as an important part of Malaysian national culture.

Description
Dikir barat is typically performed by groups of ten to fifteen members, though there is no actual set size, even in competitive environments. A group usually sits cross-legged on a platform, sometimes surrounded by the audience. Where the dikir barat is performed competitively, the two competing groups will both be on the stage at the same time.

In a typical dikir barat performance, the group will perform two segments. The first is led by the tok juara, who is often the person in charge of the musical training of the group. This first segment usually contains the more complex musical arrangements, and will likely feature the awak-awak (chorus) singing in unison with the tok juara, as well as responsorial segments of singing, similar to what the tukang karut does with the awak-awak, later in the performance. Though musically more complex than what will follow, the first segment is seen as the "low-key" segment of the performance.

The creative leader of a dikir barat group is the tukang karut. The tukang karut (who is often himself a former tok juara) is expected in his performance to utilise current social and political issues which will be relevant to the audience. His ability to do this helps to uphold the reputation of the dikir barat group. Leading the awok-awok during the second and concluding segment of the performance, the tukang karut sings pantuns—most of which are likely original and improvised on the occasion of the performance, but some which may be known to the audience. (Pantuns are an oral poetry form indigenous to the Malay region, and are not exclusive to the dikir barat.) That the dikir barat uses pantuns does not mean that it is a performance of poetry. Like any poet, the tukang karut is expected to create lyrics that touch upon everyday life, but he can also address social issues, legal matters, politics, government regulations, and human foibles. The tone can be satirical, sarcastic, or simply humorous, but above all it is expected that it be clever. The tukang karut makes up and sings lyrics on the topic of the performance (which may be pre-established or simply the choice of the tukang karut), and the awok-awok sings the same lyrics back to him. During the performance, members of the awok-awok clap and perform rhythmic body movements, which bring energy to the performance.

Historically, dikir barat performances have been all-male. However, in recent years, especially with groups based in urban areas, female performers are beginning to appear.

While most musical instruments are excluded from dikir barat, some groups employ percussion instruments, including the rebana, maracas, or a shallow gong.

Competition
In a competitive performance, the two opposing dikir barat groups both sit on the stage platform at the same time. The performance is as musical as a non-competitive performance, but the competitive dikir barat is also, according to one observer, “a duel of wits”. The tukang karut from one group will throw out a topic or question, singing it to the awok-awok, who will sing it back to him. At this time the opposing dikir barat group's tukang karut must reply with an answer more clever than the original question, and after the second awok-awok sings it back, the first tukang karut must take the dialogue another step higher. Essentially, what transpires is a type of lyrical debate, but instead of scoring technical debate points, tukang karuts who regularly produce well-created retorts will win audience laughter, affection, and admiration.

Originally, dikir barat was limited to competition between neighbouring villages, but in the 20th century, as its popularity began to spread (aided by the ability to record performances), it became a national phenomenon. Today, dikir barat competitions have become wildly popular across Malaysia, and each year there are national champions crowned, not only for the dikir barat groups as a whole, but there also are national champion in the categories of tukang karuts and tok juara. Top tukang karuts are famous and popular, much like rock stars in the West.

The government of Malaysia now officially sponsors dikir barat as a major element of national culture, and has experienced substantial success in spreading its popularity. To facilitate its spread, in 2006, then-Minister of Information Datuk Seri Zainuddin Maidin said he would encourage the development of English language dikir barat, as English is the most widely spoken second-language in the former British colony, and could thus be shared by more citizens. The national competitions in Malaysia have been broadcast on radio since 1993, and on television since 2006.

Origins
Sources are divided on whether dikir barat originated in southern Thailand or the Malaysian state of Kelantan, which borders Thailand, or even from a wedding dance shared by both the Thai Malays and the Kelantanese Malay.

Today, dikir barat has spread to the end of the Malay Peninsula, having reached Singapore, by some accounts, in the mid-1980s, where it is also being promoted by at least one government agency.

Dikir barat in the West
In recent years, Dikir barat performances have spread to the West, most commonly on university campuses.
 * In 2007, a Malaysian student organisation at Penn State University, in the United States, included a dikir barat performance as part of a traditional Malaysian wedding being held on campus.
 * The Malaysian Student Organisation of the University of Illinois also performed a dikir barat for the Malaysian Cultural Exhibition organised at the university.
 * The Malaysian Society of Imperial College London, performs a dikir barat annually on its Malaysian Night organised by the university.
 * The Malaysian Students Association (MSA) of The University of Warwick performs this art form on its Malaysian Night (MNight) every year.
 * The Malaysian Students' Organisation of the Australian National University performs this performance on its Malaysian Night 2014 with Malaysian Student Council of Australia, Australian Capital Territory (ACT Chapter) and Kelab UMNO ACT.

In popular culture

 * One of the TV advertisements for the then upcoming Malaysian Idol had the instance of a battle of hawking trades in a pasar malam between a mango seller and an orange seller, where the former raps about his mangoes in English and the latter flaunts off his oranges in a singing manner similar to that of dikir barat.
 * In the Malaysian video game No Straight Roads (released in 2020), one of the bosses is named "DK West", a pun on the name of Dikir Barat, and the music played during the fight is described as a rap battle between the main characters and DK West which plays with a crowd of faceless individuals sitting near DK West and clapping in rhythm. To add to the music, the game also makes use during this segment of Wayang Kulit.

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Huron West

Huron West was a federal electoral district represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1882 to 1917. It was located in the province of Ontario. This riding was created from parts of Huron Centre, Huron North and Huron South ridings.

The West Riding of the county of Huron was initially defined to consist of the townships of East Wawanosh, West Wawanosh, Ashfield, Colborne and Goderich, and the towns of Goderich and Clinton.

In 1903, it was redefined to include the township of Hullett, and exclude the township of East Wawanosh.

The electoral district was abolished in 1914 when it was redistributed between Huron North and Huron South ridings.

Members of Parliament
This riding has elected the following members of Parliament:

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On Mr. Patterson being named Lieutenant-Governor of Manitoba, 2 September 1895:

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peggy Kerry 2

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was redirect to John Kerry. moink 07:52, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Peggy Kerry
My apologies for the strange naming of the page; it appears the first VfD was never properly archived. When this page was last up for deletion in October 2004, several people who voted keep at that time said that it would be legitimate to bring this article up for discussion again if John Kerry lost the election. As this has happened, I am resubmitting the article. The previous debate can be found at Talk:Peggy Kerry. Ms. Kerry is not notable in any way and would not even have an article if not for a family relation to a presidential candidate. Delete. I will also accept a Merge and Redirect in case there is not enough consensus to delete.Indrian 23:27, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, until she runs for the senate or something noteworthy like that. I too will accept a Merge and Redirect if the whole world's against me... Master Thief Garrett 23:47, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to John Kerry. Meelar (talk) 03:10, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to John Kerry. Megan1967 04:44, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to John Kerry. Coolcat marked this as a speedy, which is bizarre, as this article clearly doesn't fit CSD criteria by any stretch of the imagination. Mackensen (talk) 05:12, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Definately should not have done that, since he did it after I already put a VfD header at the top of the page. Indrian 06:12, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * did that to a lot of VfD articles today. — Davenbelle 07:15, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep; see: Barbara and Jenna Bush et al. — Davenbelle 07:15, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Those are presidential relatives; this is a presidential candidate's relative. Two different things (though I would delete the Bush children too). Indrian 07:23, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * see: Karenna Gore Schiff ( Jenna Bush 2016 ) — Davenbelle 08:27, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Looks like a good deletion candidate to me. Indrian 12:39, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * keep please she is still a significant person Yuckfoo 16:30, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Lambton East (federal electoral district)

Lambton East was a federal electoral district represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1882 to 1935. It was located in the province of Ontario. This riding was created from Lambton riding.

The East Riding of the county of Lambton was initially defined to consist of the townships of Enniskillen, Brooke, Warwick and Bosanquet, the town of Petrolia, and the villages of Oil Springs, Alvinston, Watford, Arkona and Thedford.

In 1903, it was expanded to include the township of Euphemia and the town of Forest. In 1914, it was expanded to include the townships of Zone and Camden in the county of Kent.

In 1924, it was defined as consisting of the townships of Bosanquet, Warwick, Inniskillen, Brooke, Dawn and Euphemia in the County of Lambton, and the townships of Zone and Camden in the County of Kent.

The electoral district was abolished in 1933 when it was redistributed between Lambton West and Lambton—Kent ridings.

Members of Parliament
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Mosquito Range

The Mosquito Range (elevation approximately 14,000 ft) is a high mountain range in the Rocky Mountains of central Colorado in the United States. The peaks of the range form a ridge running north–south for roughly 40 mi (64 km) from southern Summit County on the north end, then along the boundary between Lake and Park Counties. The ranges forms a high barrier separating the headwaters of the Arkansas River near Leadville from South Park and the headwaters of the South Platte River near Fairplay. The highest peak in the range is Mount Lincoln at an elevation of 14,286 ft. Other fourteeners in the range are Quandary Peak (14,272 ft), Mount Bross (14,172 ft), Mount Democrat (14,148 ft), and Mount Sherman (14,036 ft).

Geology
The mountains are faulted anticlines formed as part of the Sawatch Uplift during the Laramide orogeny around 65 million years ago (Mya). The mountains were originally contiguous with the higher Sawatch Range to the west, but were separated during the formation of the rift valley at the headwaters of the Arkansas River about 35 Mya. The range is primarily of granite. The eastern flank of the range along the rim of South Park is overlain by Paleozoic and Mesozoic sedimentary rocks. The northern end of the range was glaciated during Pleistocene time, forming U-shaped valleys in the canyons.

The high ridge of the range forms a relatively difficult barrier between South Park and the Arkansas headwaters. Several of the high peaks of the range are prominently visible from the southern side of Fremont Pass along State Highway 91 between Climax and Leadville. The range is not traversed by any major highway, but only in two places by backroads over high passes: Mosquito Pass and Weston Pass. Much of the range is located within the Pike National Forest.

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Lambton West (federal electoral district)

Lambton West was a federal electoral district represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1883 to 1968. It was located in the province of Ontario. This riding was created from parts of Lambton riding.

The West Riding of the county of Lambton was initially defined to consist of the townships of Sarnia, Moore and Plympton, the town of Sarnia, and the villages of Wyoming, Forest and Point Edward.

History
In 1903, the riding was redefined to include the townships of Dawn and Sombra, and exclude the town of Forest.

In 1924, Lambton West was defined to consist of that part of the county of Lambton included in the townships of Plympton, Sarnia, Moore and Sombra (including Walpole Island, St. Anne's Island and the other islands at the mouth of River St. Clair), and the city of Sarnia.

In 1933, the townships of Bosanquet was added, and the township of Sombra was excluded. In 1947, the village of Arkona was added.

In 1952, the village of Grand Bend was added.

In 1966, the electoral district was abolished when it was redistributed between Middlesex and Sarnia ridings.

Members of Parliament
This riding elected the following members of the House of Commons of Canada:

Election results
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Bio from United States Air Force sources Rogerd 23:28, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Alumni is the wrong word here?
"White graduated from the Air Corps Tactical School at Maxwell Field, Alabama, in May 1938. He then entered Command and General Staff School at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. He was named an outstanding alumni of the class 1939[2] and upon completion of this training was assigned to the Office of the Chief of Air Corps, Washington, D.C." Should be "Alumnus"? Longinus876 (talk) 21:18, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

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Lincoln and Niagara

Lincoln and Niagara was a federal electoral district represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1883 to 1904. It was located in the province of Ontario. This riding was created from parts of Lincoln and Niagara ridings.

It was initially defined as consisting of the town and township of Niagara, the city of St. Catharines, the townships of Grantham, Clinton and Louth, and the villages of Beamsville, Merritton and Port Dalhousie.

In 1892, the townships of Pelham and Gainsborough were added to the riding. The townships were transferred from the defunct electoral district of Monck

The electoral district was abolished in 1903 when it was redistributed between Lincoln and Welland ridings.

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Muskoka and Parry Sound (federal electoral district)

Muskoka and Parry Sound was a federal electoral district represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1883 to 1904. It was located in the province of Ontario. This riding was created from parts of Algoma and Muskoka ridings.

It consisted of the townships of Watt, Cardwell, Humphrey, Conger, Stephenson, Brunel, Franklin, Sinclair, Chaffey, Bethune, Perry, Proud foot, Foley, Cowper, McDougall, Parry Sound Village and Island, Fergusson, Carling, Burpee, Shawanaga and settlements on the lake shore to the mouth of French River, Christie, Monteith, McKellar, Hagerman, Spence, Croft, McKenzie, Ferrie, Wilson, Mills, McConkey, Hardy, Chapman, Strong, Magnetawan, Joly, Lount, Machar, Laurier, Ryerson, Armour, McMurrich, Stisted, Pringle, Gurd, Himsworth, Nipissing, Burton, Gibson, Harrison, Wallbridge, Patterson, Blair, Mowat, and Brown, and the part of the territorial district of Muskoka lying to the south of the township of Conger and east of the townships of Medora and Wood.

The electoral district was abolished in 1903 when it was merged into a new Muskoka riding.

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This talk page has been completely deleted in regulation with Wikipedia policy on starting fresh. NO Archives will be necessary until today, the starting point of this new talk page. Thank You. -EllG73

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Your Post: The "Waybest Foods" article, whats wrong with it? What would you suggest to make it non-ad like? I think its fairly NPOV. EllG73 05:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)ellg73
 * My Response: At first it just kind of sounded like an ad to me. Now that I've reread it, perhaps a better tag would be expansion or stub.  Feel free to change the tag if you want.  --NMChico24 05:13, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Waybest Foods
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PULHHEEMS

The PULHHEEMS is a system of grading physical and mental fitness used by Britain's armed forces. PULHHEEMS is tri-service, which is to say that it is used by the British Army, the Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force. Its purpose is to determine the suitability of its employees for posting into military zones. It is not a fitness test as such; rather, it is a test of suitability for purpose.

The PULHHEEMS system, or variations of it, is also used by several members of the British Commonwealth, including Singapore, Canada, Australia, Sri Lanka and New Zealand. The USA uses a system called PULHES. In civilian life, there is a similar system called PULSES which is used to grade levels of disability; it differs from the PULHHEEMS in that it also examines the digestive system, something which the PULHHEEMS does not.

Usage
For new recruits it is part of the first step into the armed forces, whilst for established service people it is a requirement of ongoing employment. Although a PULHHEEMS is carried out on new recruits, it is not itself an entrance examination, the attributes of which depend on the unit conducting the examination.

The examination is carried out on recruits, and five-yearly after a serviceman or woman reaches the age of 30. After the age of 50, people in service are examined every two years. All Generals of any persuasion must be examined yearly. Furthermore, service personnel under the age of 30 are required to undergo a PULHHEEMS in order to attend certain courses, whether occupational or promotional, and also if medically downgraded. A PULHHEEMS is also carried out prior to leaving the armed forces, in part because many former servicemen remain as reserves.

The PULHHEEMS examination can result in medical downgrading if fitness standards do not reach required levels, whether as a consequence of injury, neglect, pregnancy, or old age. Downgrading can reduce a serviceman's pay, and prevent course attendance, which in turn can prevent promotion. Ultimately a serious, permanent medical downgrade can result in discharge from the armed forces on medical grounds.

Acronym
PULHHEEMS is an abbreviation for the factors it is intended to test. These include: Physique Upper limbs Lower limbs (or 'Locomotion', as this includes the back) Hearing (right) Hearing (left) Eyesight right (corrected / uncorrected) Eyesight left (corrected / uncorrected) Mental function Stability (emotional)

Scoring
The attributes examined in PULHHEEMS receive a score from 1 to 8, with 1 being excellent and 8 being unfit for service. Although in theory all attributes can be scored from 1 to 8, in practice only eyesight and hearing can be graded 1. Although there is provision for grading a serviceman's physical measurements as P1, the examination required would be impossible within the constraints of the PULHHEEMS system.

The Mental and Stability measurements are not exhaustive psychological examinations. The former is a test of the ability to form coherent thought processes, whilst the latter is a measurement of the serviceman's stress level.

PES/MES
Once a person in service has undergone a PULHHEEMS, they receive a score. In the Royal Air Force (RAF), the score is the MES, which stands for "Medical Employment Status." In the other branches, the score is the PES, which stands for "PULHHEEMS Employment Status". This PES is used to determine whether the soldier is "employable in full combatant duties (in any area) in any part of the world" or if they must remain away from the combat area, or within a specific geographic limitation. Sometimes it may be used in determining whether they are unfit for all duties. A PES grade of P2 is excellent, that of P7 is very poor, and P8 is unfit for duty. MES encapsulates the suitability of personnel for posting in the air, on the ground, and in different climates. Thus, a fully fit RAF serviceman will be graded A1 L1 M1 E1 (Only those that need to fly as part of their core duties would be awarded an A1 category. The highest anyone travelling as a passenger will get is A4 rather than P2. Conversely the Royal Navy, which includes the Royal Marines, makes no distinction between postings at sea or on land.

History
The PULHHEEMS system dates from WWII, although before 1983 it was simply PULHEEMS with one H. It replaced an earlier, simpler system which dated from before WWI in which soldiers were graded from A1 to D3 in four bands of three ratings.

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Ontario West

Ontario West was a federal electoral district represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1882 to 1904. It was located in the province of Ontario. It was created from parts of Ontario North, Ontario South and York North ridings.

The West Riding of the county of Ontario consisted of the townships of Whitchurch, Uxbridge and Pickering, the town of Newmarket, the village of Uxbridge and the village of Stouffville.

The electoral district was abolished in 1903 when it was redistributed between the three ridings from which it had been created.

Electoral history

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Simcoe East (federal electoral district)

Simcoe East was a federal electoral district in the province of Ontario, Canada, that was represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1882 to 1968. This riding was created in 1882 from parts of Muskoka riding.

The "East Riding of the county of Simcoe" initially consisted of the townships of Tay, Medonte, Oro, Orillia, Matchedash, Muskoka, Wood, Medora, Monck and Tiny, the villages of Gravenhurst and Midland, and the towns of Orillia and Penetanguishene.

In 1903, it was redefined to consist of the townships of Matchedash, Medonte, Orillia North, Orillia South, Tay and Tiny, and the towns of Midland, Orillia and Penetanguishene. In 1914, it was redefined to include the villages of Coldwater and Victoria Harbour.

In 1924, it was redefined to consist of that part of the county of Simcoe lying north of (and including) the township of Tiny, the township of Medonte and the township of Orillia South.

The electoral district was abolished in 1966 when it was redistributed between Grey—Simcoe, Parry Sound-Muskoka and Simcoe North ridings.

Members of Parliament
This riding elected the following members of the House of Commons of Canada:

Election results

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Middlesex South (federal electoral district)

Middlesex South was a federal electoral district that was represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1883 to 1904. It was located in the province of Ontario. This riding was created from parts of Middlesex East and Middlesex West ridings.

It consisted of the townships of Westminster, Delaware, Caradoc and Lobo.

The electoral district was abolished in 1903 when it was redistributed between Middlesex North, Middlesex East and Middlesex West ridings.

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User talk:Zinoviev

I cleaned up the Albanians in the Republic of Macedonia page. Is there anything else you'd like to change on the page? freestylefrappe 23:30, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I commented on the discussion page. --Zinoviev 14:35, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Tsargrad
Hi Zinoviev. thanks for your comment and trust me that it was not a matter of 'bad behaviour' on my behalf. i am sorry for not noticing your long explanation on the talk page, which i have to say is rather informative! maybe my edit summary was not clear enough... i know the meaning of the word 'tsar' and were it derives from. i requested a citation on whether the slavs in the Balkans refered to the sultans as tsars in the meaning of 'Caesar'. i did not know that the word is and was used for every ruler (even as u mention, for the pharaohs...). so, i kidda considered it as a revitalisation of the claim that the 'ottoman sultans were succesors of the Roman and Byzantine emperors. perhaps we could add something like: 'In the vernacular of the Balkan Slavs the Ottoman sultans were called tsars, a title assigned to every ruler ', or something like that to make it clear and avoid possible future wrong interpretations. thanks for the notice and again sorry for not reading your post earlier. Hectorian 18:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

 * I have already seen the change;). it is fine now. and now i know why u've changed 'balkan slavs' to 'bulgarians' (i did not know that difference in the usage of word 'tsar' by serbs and bulgarians). Cheers Hectorian 09:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Crossfire (computer game)
I am satisfied with the sources you've quoted on the AfD page; if you add them to the article itself, I will change my vote to Keep. Walton monarchist89 19:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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Winnipeg (federal electoral district)

Winnipeg was a federal electoral district in Manitoba, Canada, that was represented in the House of Commons of Canada from 1882 to 1917.

This riding was created in 1882 from parts of Selkirk riding.

It was abolished in 1914 when it was redistributed into Winnipeg Centre, Winnipeg North and Winnipeg South ridings.

It consisted of the city of Winnipeg and the municipality of Fort Rouge.

Election results
By-election: On Mr. Macdonald's resignation, 4 May 1893

By-election: On election being declared void, 29 March 1897

By-election: On Mr. Jameson's death, 3 February 1899

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By-election: On Mr. Haggart's resignation, 11 October 1911

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Charles Bent Political Affiliation
While redoing this page into a table, I looked and looked for Bent's Political Affiliation, and found nothing. If anyone can find it, it would be apreciated. YourNickname 23:31, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Otero
Otero did not die in office in 1906. In fact, he lived until 1944 and wrote a several books about his life, including one covering his term as governor.

Although he had the same name as his father, he did not use "Jr." When clarification was required, he used "II". His son used "Jr." (confusing, for sure). BlongerBros 15:51, 22 January 2006 (UTC)