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Frank Conrad

Frank Conrad (May 4, 1874 – December 10, 1941) was an American electrical engineer, best known for radio development, including his work as a pioneer broadcaster. He worked for the Westinghouse Electrical and Manufacturing Company in East Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, for half a century. His experimental radio station provided the inspiration, and he acted in an advisory role, for the establishment of Westinghouse's first broadcasting service, over radio station KDKA.

Early life
Conrad was born May 4, 1874, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, the son of Herbert M. Conrad, a railroad mechanic, and Sadie Conrad. His formal education ended with 7th grade, however in 1928 his work would be recognized with an honorary Doctor of Science degree from the University of Pittsburgh. He began employment at the Westinghouse Electrical and Manufacturing Company at age 16, and at 23 began working in Westinghouse's Testing Department, where he and another engineer, H. P. Davis, developed the first circular-type watt-hour meter (known as the 'Round Type'). In 1937, it was estimated that 30 million induction-type watt-hour meters were in use. In 1904, the company appointed him General Engineer, and he was promoted to Assistant Chief Engineer in 1921. Conrad was awarded more than 200 patents internationally throughout his life. He was awarded 177 U.S. patents, and at least 42 in the United Kingdom and at least 9 in Germany

Early radio work
Conrad first became interested in radio in 1913, the result of a bet with a co-worker over whose watch was more accurate. Conrad won the bet, in part because he secretly replaced his cheap watch's internal components with the mechanism from a more expensive watch. While conducting the time comparisons, Conrad began to doubt the accuracy of time signals provided by a Western Union telegraph service, so he built a simple radio receiver to pick up the official Naval Observatory time signals, broadcast nightly by station NAA in Arlington, Virginia. With this receiver he also overheard transmissions being made by a neighbor, John Coleman, so Conrad built a transmitter in order to communicate with Coleman and other local amateur radio operators. After moving from Swissvale to Wilkinsburg, Pennsylvania, he installed a radio station on the top floor of a two-story garage adjacent to his home. In the summer of 1916 this station was issued an Experimental license, with the call sign 8XK. At this time the station employed a spark-transmitter, thus could only be used for Morse code transmissions.

In April 1917, due to the entrance of the United States into World War One, all civilian radio stations were ordered silenced, including 8XK. During the war Westinghouse was awarded government contracts related to developing radio technology, and Conrad worked on improvements to radio equipment (SCR-69 transmitter and SCR-70 receiver) for the Army Signal Corps. In addition to Morse code, this development work included radiotelephone transmissions, using the recently developed capabilities of vacuum-tube transmitters. In conjunction with his wartime work Conrad was authorized to operate a radio transmitter from his home, using the call sign 3WE, for communication with a second station located at the Westinghouse plant in East Pittsburgh. He also produced a wind-driven electrical generator, attached to a plane's wing, for powering a radio transmitter.

Effective October 1, 1919, the ban on civilian radio stations was lifted. Although his station would not be formally relicensed until January 21, 1921, Conrad resumed experimenting, again using the 8XK call sign, and now also testing vacuum-tube radiotelephone equipment.

He was responsible for one of the country's first post-war radio broadcasts, when, on the evening of October 17, 1919, he entertained local amateurs with selections from phonograph records. This was the start of a series of test broadcasts, and the novelty of the entertainment proved popular with his audience. Responding to their interest, Conrad adopted a semi-regular schedule, primarily consisting of two hours on Saturday and also Wednesday nights. (The broadcasts weren't universally appreciated, as his wife later reported that he also "used to get phone calls at all hours of the day and night telling him to get off the air".)

Most of these early broadcasts consisted of music, provided from Conrad's record collection. After he exhausted this resource, he struck a deal with the local Brunswick Shop: in exchange for the store supplying him with recently released records, he would provide on-air acknowledgements. (The son of the Brunswick Shop's owner had been assisting Conrad). Conrad's sons and niece were talented musicians and helped provide the entertainment. He also ran a telephone line from his home's music room to the transmitter in the garage, so performers could use the family piano. On June 26, 1920, a special concert was broadcast for the patients at the Tuberculosis League Hospital.

Conrad also continued to conduct experimental radio work. In the summer of 1920, the American Radio Relay League, in conjunction with the United States Bureau of Standards, conducted a series of tests investigating the phenomenon of radio signal "fading"–the variations in signal strength that affected long-distance signals during nighttime operation. 8XK was one of the key stations participating in these tests.

Broadcasting station KDKA

In late 1920, 8XK's entertainment broadcasts would spark Westinghouse's entry into the broadcasting field. The Joseph Horne department store ran daily full-page advertisements in the Pittsburgh papers, and its September 23 placement noted that the store had started selling simple "wireless receiving stations". Then, in the September 29 installment, the ad mentioned that the Horne staff had recently heard an "air concert" from Conrad's station. Upon seeing this latest ad, Westinghouse vice president H. P. Davis immediately began to spearhead the construction of a Westinghouse broadcasting station. His idea was that the company could start selling its own radio receivers to the general public, with the free daily entertainment offered by a broadcasting station stimulating sales.

The American Radio Relay League had already set up a program for various amateur stations to distribute voting results on election day, November 2, and in the Pittsburgh area 8XK had been scheduled to be the local participant. However, Westinghouse decided to inaugurate its new broadcasting service on the same night, so Conrad switched to supporting that effort instead. Westinghouse's election night broadcast was successfully conducted over station 8ZZ (soon to become KDKA) in East Pittsburgh, with Conrad maintaining a watch at his Wilkinsburg garage, ready to have 8XK take over if 8ZZ had experienced problems.

Westinghouse went on to have a leading role in the development of radio broadcasting in the United States. Conrad revised his earlier receiver designs to create consumer products for the company's new customers, and when Westinghouse began selling model RA Tuners and DA Detectors in early 1921, they were advertised as employing "the latest ideas of two noted engineers, Edwin H. Armstrong and Frank Conrad".

Later life
Conrad ended his entertainment broadcasts soon after the establishment of KDKA, although 8XK was one of the primary participants in the February 1921 "Washington's Birthday Relay", in which amateur stations received and retransmitted nationwide a special thirty word message. He also continued doing groundbreaking radio research. While investigating transmitter "harmonics"–unwanted additional radio signals produced at higher frequencies than a station's normal transmission frequency–he unexpectedly found that in some cases the harmonics could be heard farther than the primary signal, something previously thought impossible, as high-frequency radio signals, which had poor groundwave coverage, were thought to have a much more limited transmission range. This led Westinghouse to begin evaluating the commercial potential of shortwave transmissions. In 1924, Conrad demonstrated to RCA's David Sarnoff that low-powered shortwave signals from East Pittsburgh could be readily received in London, using a simple receiver with a curtain rod as an antenna. This matched, at a small fraction of the cost, the performance of the then-current RCA method for transatlantic radio, which used massive longwave Alexanderson alternator transmitters for producing signals that were sent and received using antennas with lengths measured in kilometers.

Conrad's last license for 8XK was deleted on November 3, 1924. The next month Westinghouse arranged to have the callsign of an experimental station in East Pittsburgh changed from 8XAU to 8XK, and the historic call began to be heard worldwide, conducting shortwave transmission tests. In 1928, Conrad demonstrated a movie-film-to-television converter at Westinghouse, and he also did research in narrow-band FM transmissions.

Death and legacy
Conrad retired from Westinghouse in 1940. He suffered a heart attack on November 6, 1941, while driving to his winter home in Miami, Florida, and died there on December 10, 1941.

He received numerous awards for his work, including, from the American Institute of Electrical Engineers, the 1930 Edison Medal "for his contributions to radio broadcasting and short wave radio transmission", and the 1936 Lamme Medal "for pioneering and basic developments in the fields of electric metering and protective services". In 2001, the Wilkinsburg garage that had housed 8XK was carefully dismantled and placed into storage by the National Museum of Broadcasting, with the hope that it can some day be rebuilt to house a broadcasting museum. In the A Return to Normalcy episode of the TV program Boardwalk Empire, employing artistic license, Frank Conrad is portrayed as the person announcing the 1920 election results from Pittsburgh.

A dramatization of Conrad's life and his relationship with his wife Flora premiered as a stage musical in the Washington, D.C., area under the title On Air.

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Claudia

Claudia may refer to:

Ancient Romans

 * Any woman from the Roman Claudia gens
 * Claudia (vestal), a Vestal Virgin who protected her father Appius Claudius Pulcher in 143 BC
 * Claudia Augusta (63–63 AD), infant daughter of Nero by his second wife
 * Claudia Capitolina, princess of Commagene originally from Roman Egypt
 * Claudia Marcella, women of the Claudii Marcelli
 * Claudia Octavia (died 62 AD), first wife of Nero
 * Claudia Procula, a name traditionally attributed to Pontius Pilate's wife
 * Claudia Pulchra, a relative of the imperial family, accused of immorality and treason
 * Claudia Rufina, a woman of British descent who lived in Rome c. 90 AD and was known to the poet Martial
 * Claudia Quinta, who helped bring the statue of Cybele from Pessinus to Rome
 * Claudia Tisamenis, sister of Herodes Atticus
 * Saint Claudia, mentioned in 2 Timothy

Modern people

 * Claudia (given name)

Television

 * Claudia (American TV series)
 * Claudia (telenovela), Mexican TV series

Films

 * Claudia (1943 film)
 * Claudia (1959 film), an East German film
 * Claudia/Jasmine, an Indonesian comedy drama film released in 2008

Music

 * Claudia Quintet, an ensemble formed by drummer and composer John Hollenbeck
 * Claudia Rossi, former drummer of Jack Off Jill known mononymously as Claudia

Other media

 * Claudia (play), adapted into the aforementioned 1943 film
 * Claudia and David (radio program), a 1940s radio program, sometimes referred to as simply Claudia
 * Claudia (magazine), a Polish magazine published by Editora Abril

Other uses

 * Hurricane Claudia, the name given to various storms
 * Ethinylestradiol/cyproterone acetate, a birth control pill sometimes sold under the brand name Claudia
 * Claudia (gens), one of the most prominent patrician houses at Rome
 * Claudia (crater), a crater on the asteroid 4 Vesta

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Clearly this is nonsense, either created by someone named Benjamin Loew or by others wanting to have some fun at Wikipedia's expense. I believe the page should be deleted. Billlund 03:40, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete. This has alternately been an attack page and a page with little or no context; it used to have a CSD notice on it. I've restored it. No need to go through VfD for crap like this. android↔talk 04:08, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)
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Monteverdi (automobile)

Monteverdi was a Swiss brand of luxury cars created in 1967 by Peter Monteverdi (1934–1998) and based in Binningen on the southern edge of Basel, Switzerland.

History
Peter Monteverdi, a descendant of composer Claudio Monteverdi, first made his name as a racecar driver. During the late 1950s and early 1960s, he also built, sold, and raced a number of "specials" called MBM, while at the same time developing the motor vehicle repair business founded by his father into a major dealership handling Ferrari, BMW, and Lancia brands. The relationship with Ferrari ended in 1963 when Enzo Ferrari demanded that Monteverdi pay up front for a shipment of 100 cars, which Monteverdi refused to agree to. Monteverdi was generally hard to get along with, which may have impacted the success of his company.

By 1967, he had decided to undertake series production of exclusive high-performance luxury sports and touring cars. The first model, the two-seater Monteverdi High Speed 375S coupé, was launched at that year's Frankfurt Motor Show and received very positive reviews. The car used a heavy and simple steel frame provided by Stahlbau Muttenz GmbH with an aluminium body designed by Pietro Frua. It looked quite similar to other Frua creations of that time, particularly the Maserati Mistral Coupé and the British AC 428. All the three were rumored to share some details, such as windows. The elegant-looking car was powered by a 440-CID (7.2-litre) Chrysler V8 engine delivering up to 375 bhp (according to SAE standards) and had a luxurious interior finished to the highest standards. Eleven copies of the Frua-designed Monteverdi coupé were built from 1968 to 1969, then the alliance of Monteverdi and Frua split in anger. Not long before, Frua had built two 2+2 coupés with a stretched wheelbase. One of them was presented as Monteverdi 375/L; the other one stayed for some years at Frua before, in 1971, it was slightly modified and sold to AC, where it was presented as a one-off AC 428.

Fissore years
In 1969, Monteverdi chose the small Carrozzeria Fissore for further collaboration. Fissore redesigned the 375 Coupé and built the bodies that were then delivered to Monteverdi in Switzerland, where the cars were finally assembled. Now, the car had square lines, but still elegant proportions. The 2+2 form became the standard model, but subsequently other body styles were offered. First was a short-wheelbase two-seat coupé called the 375/S and - on the same short wheelbase - a drophead dubbed the 375/C. These early Fissore cars are extremely rare nowadays, with the convertible reported as lacking rigidity. Soon, Monteverdi also offered a large sedan called 375/4, and about 30 were built. Other variations on the same theme were the 1974 Berlinetta with a different front styling and Triumph TR6 tail lights, and another convertible, called Palm Beach, which remained a one-off.

Monteverdi much preferred building the 375L 2+2 and the 375/4, as these were more developed and also profitable. This was in contrast to the more unusual models such as the Palm Beach or the Hai, which were of a more one-off nature and thus much costlier to build. Until the arrival of the Safari, Monteverdi's production had rarely strayed into the double digits. In 1971, before the oil crisis hit, about 60 cars were finished, a number that dropped to 45 cars in 1973 (partly due to strikes in Italy), but in 1979 production reached 350 (nearly all off-roaders). The production of super luxury cars ended in 1976, after about 1,300 Monteverdis of all types had been built. By that time, Monteverdi had started the mass production of a new kind of car, well-equipped luxurious off-road station wagons. The first model was the Monteverdi Sahara. It was not a Monteverdi development, but a boutique car. Monteverdi used a mechanically unchanged International Scout, changed the grill, and tuned up the interior. The second model was the Monteverdi Safari. In this case, Monteverdi also used a Scout, but most of the bodywork was changed, once again designed by Fissore. In addition to the standard Scout 5.0 or 5.6-litre (304- or 345-CID) V8s, there was the option of installing the 440-CID V8 from Chrysler. The car had a formal, Italianate look and it sold well, in Europe as well as the Middle East.

Boutique era and decline
As far as road cars were concerned, Monteverdi changed to the boutique car system in 1977 for these as well. The Monteverdi Sierra was a sedan with a 5.2-litre V8 engine and distinctive looks. It was a Plymouth Volaré with slightly changed bodywork. With few modifications, it had similarities to the Fiat 130. Fenders, bumpers, grill and some smaller parts were modified: headlamps were taken from the Fiat 125 and rear lights came from the Renault 12. The rest - windows, doors and mechanical parts - remained unchanged. The Sierra soon was accompanied by a two-door convertible based on a Dodge Diplomat coupe, of which only two were made. Finally, Monteverdi also made a station wagon based on a Plymouth. It remained a one-off that was never sold. When the production of the Volaré ended in 1980, Monteverdi chose another car to be converted. This time, it was the new Mercedes S-Class (W 126). The front got a massive chrome grille with four round headlamps, looking like an Alfa Romeo Alfetta (third series), while the rear lamps were provided by the Peugeot 505 sedan. It was announced in March 1982 for a price of 185,000 Swiss francs and badged as Monteverdi Tiara. It is unknown if serious production took place, particularly as the final design looked somewhat dated, being less aerodynamic looking, when compared to the Mercedes-Benz original.

In 1978 work began on a four-door version of the Range Rover. This was executed with the active cooperation of Land Rover, which also allowed customers to order Monteverdi Range Rovers directly from Land Rover dealers. The Range Rover Monteverdi was introduced in March 1980 at the Geneva Motor Show. While the design work was carried out by Monteverdi, the actual work took place at Fissore's factory in Savigliano. White two-door cars were sent directly by Land Rover with an extra set of doors for conversion. Following the introduction of Range Rover's own four-door model in 1981, Monteverdi ended their conversions in early 1982. Around 167 cars were built, although a range of other numbers has also been suggested. Car production in Basel ended by 1982. The factory was converted into a museum, the Monteverdi Car Collection, which opened in 1985.

In 1992, Monteverdi tried to re-enter the car scene with the Monteverdi Hai 650 F1 with no success. Two prototypes have been built, all residing in the Monteverdi Museum in Basel.

Formula One
In 1961, Monteverdi modified one of his MBM Formula Junior cars to be eligible for Formula 1. The chassis was strengthened and lengthened to use a Porsche RSK sports car engine. Porsche refused to sell Monteverdi an engine, so he bought a complete RSK, removed the engine and tuned it to give about 150bhp. The MBM had a conventional space-frame and suspension. After having success in Swiss hill climbs, Monteverdi entered the MBM in the 1961 Solitude Grand Prix. He qualified last on the grid, and retired after two laps with engine problems. The car was written off in a Formula Libre race in Germany, and the remains were buried in the foundations of a new car showroom built on the site of Monteverdi's old garage.

In 1990, Monteverdi returned to Formula 1 through his acquisition of the Onyx Formula One team from Jean-Pierre Van Rossem. The team was known as Moneytron Onyx until the British Grand Prix, with the team being renamed as Monteverdi Onyx for the German Grand Prix. This was their last race, with the team folding before the Hungarian Grand Prix.

List of models

 * Monteverdi Special (1950–1952)
 * MBM Tourismo (1961–1962)
 * Monteverdi High Speed 375S (1967)
 * Monteverdi High Speed 375L (1969)
 * Monteverdi High Speed 375C (1970)
 * Monteverdi High Speed 375/4 (1970)
 * Monteverdi 2000 GTI (1969)
 * Monteverdi Hai 450 SS (1970)
 * Monteverdi Palm Beach (1975)
 * Monteverdi Sierra (1977)
 * Monteverdi Safari (1976)
 * Monteverdi Sahara (1978)
 * Monteverdi Tiara (1982-1983)
 * Monteverdi Hai 650 F1 (1992)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hog's Back Brewery

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Hog's Back Brewery
This is a very small brewery, and is not notable as per the requirements set out in Wikiproject Beer (it produces around 7,000 barrels per year, and we set the cutoff at 15,000 barrels per year). To judge for yourself, go to their website at http://www.hogsback.co.uk —Sean κ. ⇔ 03:35, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep! I think you mean WikiProject Beer. However, this says nothing about any cutoff at any number of barrels. A good thing too, as in my opinion (very likely no more valuable than yours) the product of this brewery is considerably more noteworthy than the uninteresting fizzy stuff churned out by Anheuser-Busch, Asahi, and the like. If it isn't so popular, blame mass stupidity, the power of advertising as applied to rivals' near-beer, etc. Hogs Back Brewery -- as it should be retitled as soon as it has survived the indignity of VfD (though I notice that the company itself sometimes uses an apostrophe) -- makes superb ales, among which I particularly recommend "Brewster's Bundle". Here we see a Hogs Back beer winning a silver award from CAMRA. If WikiProject Beer really has this criterion, it's a damned silly criterion, In My Haughty Opinion. I'd say I'd buy a (virtual) pint of Hogs Back for anyone voting "keep" if I didn't worry that this might be regarded as undemocratic. And no I'm not related to the company other than as an occasional (since I live half a world away) but very happy customer. -- Hoary 07:22, 2005 Apr 19 (UTC)
 * Abstain, I'm not entirely sure about this one. It's got a lot of weasel terms and not all that much info. I'd be more inclined to keeping if a brewery infobox was added. That said, I do agree that a production cut-off isn't really the best way to determine notability. Is it on sale worldwide? What is it's market share in the UK? Mgm|(talk) 08:31, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Answers: You can buy Hogs Back beer here; this page says (via various, perhaps beery spelling mistakes) that the company ships outside Britain. The market share within Britain will be very low, of course -- isn't this obvious from the production figures? But let's consider music for a moment: the market share of Harrison Birtwistle would appear infinitesimal beside that of, say, the beloved diva Ashlee Simpson; but WP contributors realize that in music, if not beer, there's a certain notability in quality and originality as well as sales. -- Hoary 08:59, 2005 Apr 19 (UTC)
 * Keep part of the importance of English beer (currently working on expanding this) is in its diversity and craft traditions, and almost none of the important breweries are large. Hogs Back is very widely available compared to many other beers. Justinc 10:39, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: as an illustration, it's the one interesting (non-mass-market) beer available in the restaurants of several National Trust "properties". That's where I first encountered it. -- Hoary 11:06, 2005 Apr 19 (UTC)
 * Keep! Level of production should not be a criterion of notability when judging craft breweries. Many award-winning beers are produced by very small breweries. --Ascorbic 11:51, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, I agree with the above. Production should not be a criteria for judging these breweries, there are many award-winning breweries I can think of in the UK whose production is very limited in material terms. This article does need some cleanup though. Rje 14:13, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Comment Well since I nominated it, I guess I should vote, if just to have a dissenting view. I certainly agree that volume of sales isn't the only mark of notability, but it is an important one.  But I do disagree that the taste or quality of the beer matters.  I mean... I make a damn fine homebrew, but I bet you guys won't let me include it ;).  Something tells me this article will happily see the light of day... next time I'll post VfD on the project page first.  —Sean κ. ⇔ 14:21, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: When your homebrew wins some national awards, then go ahead! ;) --ascorbic 18:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * BTW, you don't get to vote here, since you nominated it. If you had comments to add then you're supposed to add the comments without an additional "keep" or "delete".  Tempshill 18:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Shows what I know ;) —Sean κ. ⇔ 18:40, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * You did fine. It's just so that when admins look over the votes, it doesn't look, at a glance, like there's an additional vote weighing one way or the other. We need better beer articles here, by the way; glad you're on it.  208.57.241.45 19:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. This seems like a regionally popular brewery in part of the UK, not unlike, say, the Sprecher Brewery of Wisconsin. Shimmin 01:30, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, there should be a low bar of inclusion for beer, as for almost everything else. Kappa 03:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: the "bar" (?) already is low: Miller Lite [sic], which is about as low as what's ever called "beer" can get, even gets its own article. It's described as a "popular pilsner beer". (I wonder what the good people of Pilsen make of that.) -- Hoary 03:25, 2005 Apr 20 (UTC)
 * Comment I have been trying very hard to keep individual beers out, and removed most of the rest of the Miller product range stubs, merging them in the main article. Miller Lite did however have quite a large number of links to it, so I judged it had some cultural significance. As for the good people of Plzen, for some reason there is almost no Czech beer coverage at all, which is embarrassing and I intend to rectify it soon. Justinc 10:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, Inclusionism for Beer (To be said with an autralian accent). Klonimus 08:17, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Cburnett 01:01, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)
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On April 1 2005, Encyclopædia Britannica, The Ligatured Encyclopædia, announced its immediate semi-hostile takeover of the Wikimedia Foundation (to be known henceforth as Wikimædia) and all of its projects, including Wikipedia (now Wikipædia), Wikisource, Wikiquote, Wikibooks, and Wikinews. Founder Jimmy Wales (known henceforth as Jimmy Wæles), giving a brief statement to the New York Times from his Maui survivalist compound, was reported to be "extremely pleased" with the £133.7 million severance package given to each of the five-and-a-half trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation. Wikipædia is best known as the "encyclop[a]edia" that any old fool can edit.

Despite the board's confidence, some Britannica investors privately indicated financial concerns about the deal, noting that "the Wikipedia wasn't really a free encyclopædia after all." Economy measures expected to be implemented as part of the agreement include an immediate restriction on contributions to Wikipædia and its sister projects to those that have already signed formal agreements with Britannica and an immediate appropriation of all funds donated during the last funding drive to be divided amongst previous contributors to Britannica. It's expected that to create or edit a page will now cost users £99.97/page in English or American language. Affordable fee localisation will be provided for wikipædias of economically troubled states.

Wikipædia administrators, members of the Wikimædia Board of Trustees, Arbitration Committee members and several other cabalists will receive free access. However, their adminship powers will be stripped permanently.

The ensuing global crisis has led Arab countries to block all oil imports to the United States; southern hill-billies are lost without gasoline for the SUVs, and the ongoing Canada-Mexico war has laid waste to much of the central and northern parts of the USA. As the US government goes into exile on the West coast, and France and Germany once again pull continental Europe into turmoil, the United Kingdom of Great Britannica rises victorious from the waves. The United Nations declares its loyalty to the the UK; Commonwealth states rescind their independence; and Buckingham Palace suspends the Labour government, assuming direct rule of the globe from the imperial capital, London.

Prospective contributors are welcome to sign up at Encyclopædia Britannica's Web site and send proposals in outline format using Courier New exclusively. Contributions handed in on time and in simple English (only) will make the contributor eligible for a grand prize drawing of a rare 1956 photo of Margaret Thatcher dating from her burlesque days. Contributors will in both word and deed release, indemnify, hold harmless, op. cit., and terra firma in the sole possession of Encyclopædia Britannica and its heirs and assigns, trustees, justices of the peace, bailiffs, playwrights, movie directors, notaries public, et aliter, pro bono, deus ex machina, ceteris paribus, and Notary Sojack. Nothing in this agreement should be construed to release, exempt, hold harmless, harmless hold or in any way free the contributor from the presumption that said party is a damned fool and deserves what he gets. This agreement is made under the laws of the Principality of Liechtenstein except for section 1(a), 4(c) and all of the part the dog ate, which fall under laws in force when men were men, the women were glad of it, and the sheep were nervous (and everyone fell asleep). In case of confusion, this agreement reverts to the laws of Saint Lucia and six of its 11 quarters.

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Representatives of Google indicate that the company is "disappointed" with the turnout of the agreement. Google had previously made indications of wishing to buy out the Foundation in a similar fashion. Instead, they are now focusing on an exciting "reform" of the outmoded Library of Congress, which will henceforth be operated in full accordance with the modern scientific Dewey Decimal System, and with Google's PRank system replaced by the proven-effective Wiki model. Otherwise unoccupied volunteers will be imported from all over the world to Washington, DC, where they will engage in high-minded scholarly disputation and manually cite (by SMS) the local Gutenberg Bible when called upon, in exchange for being granted unlimited access to the library cafetæria. The volunteers will also offer exciting related products to match search results, but Google has promised they will probably forget these after a little more scholarly disputation.

His Royal Highness Sir Prince Charles was interviewed by Sky News on the situation. After saying during actual taping, "JOLLY good. JOLLY, JOLLY good", the Prince later said sotto voce of the executive board of Encyclopædia Britannica, "they are bloody awful people, aren't they? From Chicago, are they not?"

Charles van Doren, son of the man of letters Mark van Doren and former professor of English at Columbia University, later on the center of an American quiz show scandal and subsequently employed by Encyclopædia Britannica, could not be contacted for his take on the situation.

Microsoft founder Bill Gates is reported to be "considering his options" but has not ruled out a licensed DVD set under the name WikiCarta in which owners will be able to edit their own registered version. He also denounced the takeover as monopolistic and predatory.

Several prominent academics including Noam Chomsky reported that this is the classic example of corporate led system of information control and the prime instance of elitist Manufacturing Consent. He said that "This is the saddest day in the long history of the fight towards an anarchist society."

Opposition MPs in the British parliament have led calls for the name of the country to be renamed "Magna Britannica" in recognition of the victorious and learned cyber-empire now under construction. Anticipating a British attempt to re-assume her glorious years of world domination via a new, virtual hegemony, the United States has withdrawn its Ambassador to London in protest. The CIA is said to be contemplating an attempt by the British to resume sovereignty over the original thirteen colonies, starting first with their computer terminals. The French have taken the opportunity to invade North Africa and reclaim her former empire there – a move which has irritated the new Spanish socialist government, but enabled unanticipated German troop manoeuvres in the region to proceed unimpeded. The Supreme Allied Commander in Europe has fled from NATO headquarters. Germany has, because of the news of this, decided to invade Poland and France simultaneously. Their current reasoning is unknown. It is believed that one of the secret Wikipedia über-servers is located in Gdańsk (formerly Danzig), and another might be located in Metz. In a first statement, a government spokesman declared that "this was the revenge for their continued claims that Schröder dyed his hair". Ironically, both of these cities were at one time part of the German Empire. Also, Michael Kuklinski, now the apparent Emperor of The Republic of Canada, has invaded and conquered Mexico. It is currently unknown how this was accomplished, seeing as neither nation shares a common border with the other. Also, in the Ukraine, mass protests have occurred against the takeover.

In a brief statement, the Élysée Palace has indicated the intention of president Jacques Chirac to react by nationalising the French version of Wikipedia; the name of Alain Juppé was unofficially mentioned for the post of CEO of the resulting corporation. Shortly after this announcement, troopers of the elite Chasseurs du Derrière were seen setting up barricades around the Paris offices of Wikipedia and being really, really rude to the volunteers trapped inside. Allegations of infrequent bathing on the part of the French could not immediately be confirmed. One woman reported that "some French guy in tight pants and a funny hat" (an apparent reference to the uniforms of the Chasseurs) approached her, presumptuously referred to her as "mon bebe" and asked her to "shake le bon-bon," as he blew smoke from a Gauloises in her face.

Immediately afterwards, United States President George W. Bush issued a press release condemning the French position and declaring, "We must stand against those who despise free knowledge so much." He also condemned the rudeness standoff at the Wikipedia complex, and said "You know, the problem with the French is they just don't have a word for etiquette. Reportedly, Bush will send former Secretary of State Colin Powell to the United Nations to make a presentation denouncing the French president's decision; the presentation will apparently include several satellite images of Chirac having lunch. Asked if he knew anything about rumors that his son, Kojo stood to make $480 million from the "Encyclopedias for Food" programme, Kofi Annan replied, "Hell, no!"

The European Council has declared that as a result of this takeover, every Wikipædia article will now constitute A piece of code not relating to "the use of controllable forces of nature to achieve predictable results" and thereby be immediately covered by a software patent owned by Encyclopædia Britannica.

The Catholic Church in Poland has declared the Britannica takeover unconstitutional because it does not refer to Europe's Christian heritage and furiously denies the existence of wikimædia servers in Gda&, as that would suggest that the church is fallible.

Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin informed the United States that Canada will not partake in any action against the French, much to the anger of Bush, who will also ask the UN to blame Canada. The rest of the world, believing Canada to be the 51st state, think that the US are declaring another civil war. Bush's first official response was to declare by Executive Order that Canadian bacon will henceforth be formed from strips of freedom-loving Gnu and be referred to as "Liberty Bacon", which is both more patriotic and less fattening.

The McKenzie brothers have also been designated as unlawful combatants, and Amnesty International has protested their detention and deprivation of beer. Though they have reportedly been provided with Dixie cups of Bud Light in their 6'x3' holding cell at Abu Ghraib, human rights spokespeople have responded, "Come on. We said beer." In a message to family members (those that weren't drunk), the brothers McKenzie issued this statement: "This detention blows, eh."

Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that he will ban exports of caviar and vodka to the United Kingdom in retaliation. Intelligence sources indicate that the true source of his displeasure is that the takeover will prevent him from further updating the article on American Idol; Putin is reportedly rooting for Kock Han. Shortly after the news was aired on the BBC, riots were reported in several major UK cities as angry mobs of drunks and caviar connisseurs stormed animal research labs freeing lab animals in frustration, after finding the Houses of Parliament too heavily guarded. A CDC spokesperson has warned that such actions may lead to the spread of animal viruses to human beings, but stated that conclusive test results would not be available for 28 days. In response to the crisis, British Prime Minister Tony Blair is expected to ask HM The Queen within the next week to dissolve parliament, thus triggering a general election. New Labour ministers, concerned that the caviar shortage spurned by the "Wiki Crisis" will undermine voter support in their heartlands, plan to go to the country on 5th May with a policy which will radically alter the university admissions procedure. British students will be asked to complete an unspecified number of Wikip[a]edia articles in their chosen fields of interest, with the expectation that a strong Wiki portfolio will attract the best universities. In response to Tony Blair's unanticipated policy announcement, a Conservative Party spokesman said "You can't believe a word he says anymore, and don't tell anyone about our £335 million public spending cuts."

Fearing for its future integrity under the new system, the University of Oxford has declared war on her younger rival, the University of Cambridge. International observers in the region have reported troop movements in quadrangles across the city, as up to 17,000 be-gowned students plan to mount punts and requisitioned barges to sail to Cambridge in the next few days. In response, the European Union has declared a state of emergency across the continent, and the United Nations Secretary General, Kofi Annan has pleaded for calm. Commenting, one Oxford student said, "We'll do to the Tabs in the twenty-first century what we failed to do in the twelfth."

Osama bin Laden has issued a fatwa against Encyclopædia Britannia, Wikipædia, and Barack Obama, saying that all three are in the hands of the "enemies of Islam" and that Obama used his namesake. In a statement from North Korean leader Kim Jong Il, bin Laden was advised to trim his hair in accordance with that the Socialist lifestyle since it is widely rumored that Kim is incapable of growing facial hair. bin Laden has hired Doctor Strangelove as a response. The esteemed former "doctor" could not be reached for comment, but it is reported he is attempting to devise a strategy that calls for the "drain of precious bodily fluids" from the baby faced communist leader. Shortly afterwards, the Korean People's Army led by the flying disembodied head of actor Patrick Duffy attacked UN Forces along the Demilitarized Zone. When asked about the attack by reporters, South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun was quoted as saying: "OMG ZERG RUSH!!!! KEKEKE!!!"

When asked, U2's lead singer Bono said, "What Britannica did was wrong. They could of spent that money feeding all the starving people of the world. Instead, they allowed Jimmy Wales to buy another ivory backscratcher." He proposes a benefit concert to buy Wikipædia, and use it to help the world's poor. So far, the only group to agree is Led Zeppelin, who will reunite to save Wikipædia. Jim Morrison, frontman for The Doors, will apparently come out of retirement in Tibet to make an appearance. To everybody's delight, Elvis Presley has announced that he will sing a duet with William Hung, at what has been dubbed, "Wikistock." Also appearing will be the up and coming metal group, Tendrix. When asked for comments, the lead singer, known only as Anthony replied, "Give me the C-Ream." In other news today, the Encyclopædia Britannica said it was also taking over Amtrak, the troubled National Railroad Passenger Corporation, in an effort to make Amtrak's famous Superliner double-deck coaches into roving Wikipedia libraries where commuters can go read and study when going to and from work The refurbishment may be supplemented by new sleeping and lounge cars from the Colorado Railcar company, Kawasaki Heavy Industries, and from Bombardier. BNSF subsequently announced that it would purchase SEPTA, METRA, and NJ Transit, and convert their buses into armored carriers for transporting Klingon Halloween masks to an upcoming Star Trek convention in Fallujah, Iraq.

Richard Stallman has stated he was "upset" to hear today's news, and has committed seppuku with a Frisbee. Memorial services are to be held Monday, pending federal, state, and traffic court action by Stallman's parents to prevent the Frisbee from being removed. The US Congress has also called an emergency session seeking to pass a resolution that would make the sale, use, and removal of frisbees illegal in the United States. Cardinal Ratzinger has already given Stallman Extreme Unction, regardless of whether or not Stallman was actually Catholic, thus jeopardising Ratzinger's command of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Numerous residents of Thailand, outraged at these events have begun rioting in the streets and throwing durians at each other.

Revolutionary Left community members have declared their intentions to hack and take back Wikipædia "in the name of free software and workers' liberation everywhere". Bob Avakian has declared he is the one true way to reclaim the free encyclopedia, "for I am the vanguard of the masses, and only my line is correct".

When reached for comment, the immortal soul of Ayn Rand said simply, "A is A." When further pressed, she responded, "Check your premises!" and began squawking like a parrot.

Also from the Elysian fields, the shade of Jacques Derrida was asked for his thoughts on the situation. "Let's be serious", said the late philosophe: "let us engage the Austinian performative itself of a high seriousness, even on this first day of April which as we know was a Fool's holiday in mediaeval times, when buffoons were celebrated as at once marginal and insofar as they were constituted by that marginality, essential to the life of the community."

"Seriousness", continued the renowned philosopher, who has recently learned to his despair that Heaven's non-smoking section has been closed, "is less an absolute state than a relation, a dignity, a comportment condign and with dignity which addresses itself, with equal seriousness, to the concerns of an embodied human being and a fictional Hamlet. At another level, and in another register, it is able to ask 'what's he to Hecuba' of an embedded play in a matter predictive of the mathematical phenomenon of recursion. Vous avez un cigarette? Non? Helas, mais c'est la vie dans ces champs Elysee, champ. Chic alors, pipe l'ange dans cette cloud".

Kurt Cobain promptly came back to life, and under the supervision of Courtney Love demanded millions of dollars worth of unpaid money from Nirvapedia, which was renamed to commemorate what was once Wikipedia. Nirvapedia rejected the request, and Kurt Cobain went on a killing spree, and killed Courtney Love in the process, which was greeted with much celebration.

BBC News realised that under new law, they were not allowed to break the fourth wall, and from then on, delivered reality TV style news. Chavs across the world celebrated, but the upper crust of society promptly melted into a fondue, ending world hunger.

Peckham became a separatist state and called itself 'Chavland'. A coup was initiated by Chelsea who took over, and made it the law in Chavland to only speak in Serbo-Croat. Chavs were unable to speak, and the world rejoiced.

Celebrations chocolates became the most popular chocolates across the world. Chocolate lovers raid stores, emptying all chocolate supplies for the next 2 years. Women promptly become extinct, and Bridget Jones has a sex-change operation.

Trent Reznor, when reached for comment, said that "Wikipedia is serious business. It is a sad day to be a Wikipedian," and then resumed to break a vintage TB-303 in anger.

Comedian, Mitch Hedberg was also contacted for a comment, his official statement was "Not even all the grilled fritos in all of Texas could sate the angered and confused masses when dealt a crushing blow by this news."

Larry Sanger, whose reputation has been tarnished by the encyclopedia in the past, reportedly gave Wales the finger with a snarky, "I told you so". He was then sued for copyright infringement by Ayn Rand and the RIAA.

Madonna sighed over the phone to Wales and then prayed to Asherah and the Shekinah in a kind of kabbalah inspired daze. Elijah then called for G-d to strike her down for idolatry.

Everything2 has called this a victory in the war on Wikipedia.

Robert McHenry played a soulful dirge on his bagpipes mourning the loss of the "Faith Based Encyclopedia". "Och, tis a sad day in the glen" McHenry cried.

John Titor had predicted this event to occur on January 16, 2001. Sollog also claims that he had foreknowledge of the takeover.

Sovereign Prince Lazarus Long of The Principality of New Utopia has announced that his nation will change its name to Wikitopia in memory of what once was Wikipedia. For no apparent reason, the United Nations has accepted Wikitopia as a member, and the nation is now a world power.

Thom Yorke of the band Radiohead announced on hearing the news, “no more happy songs from us”.

Several sources have claimed that this is the real reason Christopher Eccleston has resigned from Doctor Who.

Howard Dean was quoted, once again, as saying "YEEAAAARRRGHHHH!!!"

God was not available for comment.

Atheists world-wide took the recent merger and the lack of comment by God as proof that he/she/it does not exist/is dead. God could not be reached for comment regarding these concerns.

A stunned Cats, star of the smash-hit video game Zero Wing, simply shouted, "What you say?!" when he learned of the merger.

Manitù told our sent chronist ATMB "I'm not agreeing with this fool. Shame on you. I'll send you rain!"

John Kerry commented that he was a rather frequent contributer to the Wikipedia, particulary on the articles "John Kerry," "Skull and Bones," and "George W. Bush," and that he will sorely miss being able to work on these, despite his wife's vast fortune allowing him to afford the fee to edit. Kerry also stated that he voted for the takeover before he voted against it.

The transexual Ha Ri-su shouted that she will do a thousand edits on wikipedia about herself.

James Mercer of The Shins said, "I called to see if their back was still aligned. It turns out they were pulling teeth from the pimps of gore. If only they hadn't sold like a gull takes to the wind, I would of jumped from my trees and danced like the king of the eyesores."

He-man, and his association of "Masters of the Universe", immediately declared war on the United Kingdom upon hearing of this Encyclopædia Britannica, using his aggregated military might under the banner of Castle Greyskull. Despite landing the 15th Avion Force, Chav forces led by one Michael Carroll drove them off the isles after a vicious street battle in Southampton.

Goku, saviour of our Universe quoted "This is madness"

and the dude from 300 said"THIS IS SPARTAAAA!!!!!!

Ghosts have appeared and are amassing in Edmonton. One ghost was quoted as saying, "This is such an outrage we had to do something." What they intend to do is not certain.

The Dalai Lama has taken a giant mecha and is quoted as saying: "Violence is the only answer to hostile takeovers of open-source encyclopedias" and then proceded to jetpack his way to Brittanica's headquarters.

General Grievous, who is currently serving as droid general of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, has been quoting as saying: "I think this is the greatest thing to happen in this forsaken universe since the foundation of the Separatist order. Too many fools these days are plaguing existence--particulary the internet--with undeserved free speech, and it's about time that common sense took over." He could not be reached for further word as he claimed the lives of two more Jedi during a border conflict on Dantooine.

Sam Beckett muttered a dismayed, "Oh boy." before disappearing in a blue haze.

M.C. Hammer is making a comeback to protest the merger, saying, "When I said you can't touch this, I didn't mean wikipedia. Everyone should touch that."

Ross McColl, Professional gamer and village idiot, also known on some boards as _Trojan_Tuvai_, expressed his rage today by summoning a devil named Ki-yuroi-viuk and unleashing it upon innocent people who were in the wrong place at the very wrong time. A reporter claimed that he had also opened the actual physical path to Hell in order to unleash more chaos. He (The Reporter) was shortly OWN3D by Ross' summoned devil.

When the users of the GameFAQs board, Random Insanity, were told of this, everyone's only comment was "XD."

The supreme Archemperor of the Cosmos, Al Borland, has obliterated the 67th dimension in protest of the Takeover. Not realizing that he was inside the 67th dimension, Our Majesty subsequently melted into cosmic antimatter (otherwise known as Velvetta), and was last heard screaming "I hate Sethosayher!" Kraft Food Inc then proceeded to sue the remains of Al Borland.

Internal reaction
Let us here repeat that founder Jimmy Wales, giving a brief statement to the New York Times from his Maui survivalist compound, was reported to be "extremely pleased" with the £633.7 million severance package given to each of the five-and-a-half trustees of the Wikimædia Foundation. But many Wikipedians were upset upon first hearing the news of the acquisition. When Mr. Wales was questioned as to why the organization was sold, he stated that he was "drunker [sic] than a skunk", and needed money to pay debt to an unnamed escort service. In protest, former Wikipedia users have flooded Mr. Wales's e-mail account with Nigerian 419 scam e-mails and NAMBLA newsletters (allegedly, some from Michael Jackson's secret publishing-house). The 38 year-old Florida native has called the response "hurtful", and said that he would force scaphism on those responsible.

However, before entering the unidentified vehicle which was to take him to the compound, several sources confirm having heard mr Wales whisper "sick [sick] transit gloria mundi". Whether this cryptic comment referred to the fact he had just discovered that the small print of the contract implied he had to trade in the wiki-hegemony to a real queen, or whether it was a comment on the latest health bulletin of a famous pole remains uncertain at the time of writing - the truth about which will be uncovered shortly by ample discussion in a more apropriate place.

Other editors have been delighted at the news. According to one unnamed user, "God, it's about time this thing dropped dead. Now I can finish my toilet paper holder collection!"

It has however left many with questions, chief among them "Where does this leave us?" "Where will we find free, sometimes accurate information?" and "Can I use your bathroom and then take your toilet paper holder to put in my collection?"

Reportedly, one user has gone so far as to file a lawsuit against Jimbo Wales and the Microsoft Corporation, claiming that Wikipedia's absence has caused him erectile dysfunction and lockjaw. The defendants have issued a strong denial, stating that the individual attempted sexual intercourse with either a bucket of nails or Maria Shriver.

The MediaWiki developers, after consultation with the Free Software Foundation, placed the copyright to the software used by the Wikipedia projects on ebay. Delivery could be late; however, the MediaWiki developers assure potential buyers that they are ''Great ebayers!! A++++++++++++++++++! Would buy from again!''.

Collaboration by Britannica and Departments of Education of the PRC and ROC were reported in the Chinese version of the takeover. Reaction connected it with the March 28 rally in Taiwan against the Anti-Secession Law of the People's Republic of China, the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 and some notable members of the Chinese wikipedian community.

New corporate structure
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 * Her Majesty Queen Britney I, Sovereign Empress of WikiWorld, Manager of Boyfriends Defender of the Faith, Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Head of the Commonwealth, Queen of Australia, Canada, New Zealand and her other colonies and dominions overseas.
 * Charles, Prince of Wales, time-serving wastrel and chief wiki investigator into inbreeding.
 * His Royal Highness Prince Henry Charles Albert David Mountbatten-Windsor Supreme head of the order of unpopular ginger children
 * Gary Coleman, Poobah, President and Chairman; Plans to give every wikipedian a "Willis"
 * Bill the Cat, official mascot
 * This seat has been challenged by Garfield, who has threatened to punish Bill with a severe lasagna-pan beating.
 * Rightly so. This cat ate a poor little bird (a canary, actually).
 * Kenneth Lay, CEO
 * Man-Cat, CFO
 * Nathan Lane, Dark Lord
 * Joey Stalin, Secretariat
 * Joshua Abraham Norton, Emperor of all that he sees, which because of LSD and long-term inhalation of chlorine gas in his office (a janitor's closet), is limited to roughly 42 bizarre items, including a whale and a flower pot.
 * Pascal Nègre, Wikimusic Department Executive Deputy of Staff
 * Kuan Yin, Bodhisattva
 * The Dalai Lama, stand-in for Kuan Yin when she's busy
 * William Shatner, Cheap-airfare minister
 * John Green bartender
 * Pat Buchanan, minister of salad dressing
 * H. P. Lovecraft, Minister of cheerful, happy thoughts.
 * Ward Churchill Etiquette editor and advisor on taste and good manners.
 * Reginald Vaughn Finley, Sr. High Priest and author of official bible
 * Cthulhu will shortly replace him after learning a mere human has the title of High Priest.
 * Kent Hovind palentology advisor
 * Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf, Information Minister
 * al-Sahhaf has turned down this offer.
 * al-Sahhaf said he never considered the offer, before saying that there has been no merger.
 * He also denied the existence of Wikipedia and all Wikimedia, and himself.
 * He has called a press conference to call on others to join him in denying the existence of Wikimedia.
 * Britannica has revoked the offer, and may file a lawsuit against al-Sahhaf for denying the existence of Wikimedia and disgracing Britannica.
 * Rumors has it that the job is now offered to Robert De Niro. His response so far: "You're talking to me?"
 * Charles J. Guiteau, Fact-Checker, Official Logician, and Head of the Plagarism Detection Department. Also he will never shoot any Presidents as he is above that kind of thing.
 * Jacques Chirac, Minister of Back Door Oil Deals and Starvation of Innocents, and Nasal Whining
 * Lee Harvey Oswald, Official Assassin
 * J.W. Booth, Unofficial Assasin
 * Michael Moore, Official Archival Historian
 * John Sarik, Trashbear
 * Leon Czolgosz, Sirhan Sirhan and John F. Schrank, Guiteau's "handymen" and rivals to Oswald
 * Sepp Dietrich, voice of conscience and sanity
 * Sigmund Freud, Minister of Therapy
 * Carl Jung, Minister of Synchronicity
 * Dr. Who, Minister of Time Travel
 * Marty McFly, Vice Minister of Time Travel
 * The Noid, Minister of Pizza
 * Mary Sue, the cutest girl in all the multiverse
 * Donald Rumsfeld, Minister of Blowing-Stuff-Up and Generally Kicking Ass
 * Paris Hilton, Minister of Education, Health, and Servicing Humans
 * Ken Jennings, Minister of Intelligence
 * Oliver North office manager
 * Menachem Schneerson, Rebbe of Moshiachland
 * Robert Downey, Jr., Ambassador to Colombia and Jamaica
 * GG Allin minister of music
 * Lirath Q. Pynnor will be named to replace Wales as "god-king".
 * All Requests for adminship will be shut down, all administrators will be de-sysopped, and various Britannica editors will take their places.
 * Al Gore (inventor of the algorithm) will challenge Gary Coleman's Presidency, and has asked the Supreme Court of Florida order a hand-count of the results.
 * James Randi Horoscope page
 * Bill Boaks Political adviser and Minister of Road Safety
 * Erik Estrada, Minister of Travel — will arrange free trips to Hot Springs, Arkansas for all Brittanica admins
 * Deep Thought will assist in tabulating the notable Manhattan distance between locations.
 * Triumph the Insult Comic Dog, Spokesdog and Ambassador to Sealand
 * Ron Artest and Miles O'Brien, security guards.
 * The Babel fish, multilingual coordinator
 * C3PO, the sole contributor of all non-English interwiki articles, including Bochi.
 * Richard Kyanka, EB's website's soon-to-be forum manager
 * The Gord, Minister of Door locations
 * Catbert, Evil H.R. Director
 * Bub the Zombie, Minister of NRRRGGGHH! BRAINS!!!!
 * Saddam Hussein, Minister of Slow Joggers
 * Dan the Del Taco Guy, Minister of Tacos and Nuclear Physics
 * Homestar Runner, Minister of Long Pants
 * Strong Bad, Minister of Deleting Email
 * Boris Johnson, Ambassador to Uqbar and Lord of the Dance
 * Malaclypse The Younger, Omnibenevolent Polyfather of Virginity in Gold
 * Napoleon Dynamite, Minister of Apathy
 * Albert Einstein, Goodwill ambassador
 * Tony Blair, Director of Transparency and Accountability
 * Paul Weller, Minister of Cool
 * Adolf Hitler, Minister of Eugenics
 * Nikita Khruschev, Minister of Love and Keeping One's Shoes Off the Furniture
 * Ralph, Minister of Family Planning Affairs and Patron Deity of Randomness.
 * Figment, Minister of Epcot and obscure Disney characters.
 * Alf is Minister of Cats.
 * Charlton Heston, Minister of Armaments
 * Tux, Penguin
 * Bender is the Minister of Robo Affairs
 * Hugh Hefner, Minister of Pleasure
 * Johnnie Cochran, Wikimedia Foundation laywer
 * To be replaced by Thomas J. Mesereau
 * Michael Jackson, Director of WikiKidz, when trial is finished.
 * Shawn Fanning, Plans to convert Wikimedia Commons into the next unpaid Napster.
 * Lars Ulrich, Minister of Finance
 * Shrinkynuts McAngrypants, Minister of Sports
 * Vince McMahon, Head of the Wikimedia Kiss My Ass club.
 * Steve Wozniak, Minister of Geekiness
 * Phone Losers of America to handle telecommunications
 * Linus Torvalds, to develop Wikix
 * Jack Valenti, Minister of GFDL Copyright Enforcement
 * Professor Charles Francis Xavier, Head of the Wikipolice force.
 * Weebl, Minister of pie.
 * Challenged by Archimedes, minister of pi.
 * General Grievous, Minister of Evilness
 * John Stamos is the Minister of Trying to Recover Coolness after Full House
 * Wonkette is the Minister of the Blogosphere
 * Immanuel Kant is the Minister of Stupid Deontology
 * Nancy Pelosi is the Minister of Botox
 * Steve Youngblood is the Craftsman of Lunchtime is Funtime! events.
 * Cheese is the official food.
 * Cheese has been officially replaced with soggy, cold Ramen.
 * Due to budgetary constraints, the official food now is Soggy, Cold Ramen, with Cheese gratings.
 * The management wishes to make it known that those responsible for the problems with the food supply have been sacked.
 * Rush Limbaugh is the Supreme Counsel on what is Right.
 * Compman is the lord of all those with an IQ less than 12.
 * The Knights who say Ni, Keepers of the Sacred Words (Ni, Peng, and Nee-wom)
 * Lord Voldemort is the Minister of Sinister.
 * Tonya Harding is the Minister of sportsmanship
 * Heidi Fleiss is the new Mistress of recreation
 * Disco Stu is the Minister of Disco.
 * Pegasus is the Minister of Flying Horses.
 * Hagrid is Minister of Huge Dangerous Things with Too Many Teeth.
 * Arthur Dent is Minister of Tea and Being Confused.
 * Ford Prefect is Minister of Towels.
 * Gary Gygax is Minster of Polyhedral Dice.
 * Zaphod Beeblebrox is Minister of Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters.
 * Largo is the Minister of l33t.
 * Isaac Asimov is the Minister of technology.
 * Samwise Gamgee is the Minister of Potatoes.
 * Greedo is the Minister of Getting Shot First.
 * George Bush is Minister of Nukular Weapons.
 * Pavel Chekov is Minister of the Security of Nuclear Wessels.
 * Fighter McWarrior is Minister of Swords...cuz they're shiny.
 * Black Mage Evilwizardington is Minister of dark magic.
 * Red Mage is the Minister of Febreeze.
 * Theif Keeb'lher is the Minister of Relocations of the Property of Others.
 * Conerian Guard is Minister of Useless Phrases.
 * White Mage is Minister of Health and the Mitigation of Black Mage's Acts of Destruction.
 * Hari Seldon is Minister of Psychohistory.
 * Doctor Zoidberg is the Surgeon General.
 * George Szell is Minister of Classical Music
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Immediate aftermath
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 * They will need approximately 14 million edits for the purchase to be profitable. For faster break-even other options were considered by the new BoD. Among suggestions are pay-per-button fees for editors and the related extension of the set of edit features: along with the Edit this page feature it is suggested to have Adopt this page, as well as "What does not link here" and "Irrelevant changes". "Page history" will be augmented with "Page chemistry", "Page sociology" and "Page quantum chromodynamics". A promising innovation is fees for the "Donations" function.
 * They will need approximately 14 million edits for the purchase to be profitable. For faster break-even other options were considered by the new BoD. Among suggestions are pay-per-button fees for editors and the related extension of the set of edit features: along with the Edit this page feature it is suggested to have Adopt this page, as well as "What does not link here" and "Irrelevant changes". "Page history" will be augmented with "Page chemistry", "Page sociology" and "Page quantum chromodynamics". A promising innovation is fees for the "Donations" function.

 * In the immediate aftermath of the takeover, some internet experts have cynically questioned the prudence of the Wikipedia organization accepting the deal, suggesting it only compounds the greatest concern of many visitors to Wikipedia — that the information found there may be incorrect, due either to human error or some kind of malice, or perhaps very very funny hoax. Proponents argue that any confusion on the part of users is outweighed by the good brought by the new partnership, even if the partnership turns out to be short-lived.

Djiboutian kitten-eating crisis
The event caused an evil reptilian kitten-eater from another planet to destroy innocent kittens from the Djibouti area. This kitten-eater was so enraged, due to its nature of editing constantly on Wikipedia (some say it is a bot) that it took it out on the younger feline population closest to its satellite probe. It is not yet known how many kittens perished due to this, but the Kitten Society of Djibouti and Upper Somaliland are planning on suing Britannica for this drastic event. Luckily, the region is home to giant amphibian groundhogs who are well known to be able to attack anything extra-terrestrial, such as Michael Jackson's breast implants or the feet of Godzilla. It was later reported that the kitten-eater was being fought off by the powerful Al Jazeera army corps who flew in from nearby Qatar. However, an argument erupted within the organization over how to pronounce "Qatar" leaving the kitten-eater opportune time to eat more kittens. The kitten eating is reported to have spread almost 200 miles away from the Eritrean capital, Asmara. Al Qaeda is of course, denying any relation to the event, however when quoted, Osama bin Laden stated "death to the American pig-dog infidels!"

After six hours of the insurgency, PETA horrified by the events added themselves to the long list of people and organizations wanting to sue Britannica. They are reported to have offered Mr. Wales $200 if he returns Wikimedia back to where it was.

Conspiracy theorists speculate that limecat is behind the entire ordeal, though to what extent is unknown. The crisis was wrapped up when Commandante Meow-Meow led the Djiboutian kitten's 543rd infantry division along with the Djiboutian Liberation Front to victory, by overpowering the kitten-eater in the plains of northern Ethiopia. It is reported that Commander Kitty and PETA are working out a deal to try and get Wikipedia back so as to prevent future space invasions.

Related Information

 * Doctor Who, returning to the BBC after 15 years, will return next year without Christopher Eccelston as the 9th Doctor. Instead, Groucho Marx, Chico Marx, and Harpo Marx will be cast as the 10th, 11th, and 12th Doctors, respectively.  Breaking with previous tradition, the three Doctors will work in tandem throughout the season, usually attempting some light-hearted swindle or love-affair as the universe falls down around them.  One unnamed BBC official stated, "This is a triumph of genetic engineering!  If all goes well, we need hire only the dead to create classic television."
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 * Daniel H. Pink will be publicly executed by elephant. Howdy Doody and Clarabell are teaming up with Oscar the Grouch to oppose the execution. Standing in favor of the death penalty will be Hopalong Cassidy, the Lone Ranger and Dumbo (who needs the work).
 * Michael Jackson will donate his Neverland Ranch to Monaco, and will be crowned Prince for his generosity. This marks the first time in history that an artist can be referred to as "The artist currently known as Prince"
 * Britannica will hold a "Putting for Page Deletion" charity event, whose celebrity participants will include Ronald McDonald, Buckethead, and Rush Limbaugh.
 * Former Vermont governor Howard Dean has reported made a second Dean scream in response to the takeover; the actual meaning of his statement has not yet been determined. He also announced that he will attempt to imitate another famous scream known as the Wilhelm scream.
 * In this oxymoronic era of mega-mergers and diminishing expectations, random-character vandal bot substubs will be eligible for featured article status. Or, to put it another way, "aasdfkjghryq" (pronounced:  Luigi).
 * Upon this story first being circulated in Germany, loud shouts of joy were heard at the headquarters of Der Spiegel, after which everyone drove to the De Wallen in Amsterdam.
 * Distraught from the takeover, Bill Gates announced plans he would purchase the tiny island nation of Sealand. In anticipation of the buyout, Norton AntiVirus has announced it will release a new version of its antivirus software with a special micronation patch.  There is also a planned Windows XP SP 3.π release with a rumored TRS-80 version to follow.
 * The federal government has instituted a temporary and preemptive ban on pelvic thrusts in order to prevent civil unrest in light of the takeover. Martial law had previously been used on those performing the Macarena in broad daylight, and officials hope it doesn't come to that again.
 * The National Association of Spork Advancement (NASA) announced the release of a large scale version to challenge the market dominance of pitchforks and spades.
 * John Cleese and Michael Palin have ruled that this joke is dead. However, Tom DeLay and other naked opportunists have issued a subpoena for it to appear before a Congressional inquiry.
 * Hi Opal!
 * Workers in cowbell production plants across the world, acting in disdain at Britannica's actions, have called a global strike. Christopher Walken was unavailable for comment, but internal sources suggest that he is acting in support of Wikipedia believing that, no matter how few cowbells are lost in the crisis, the planet needs more of them.
 * Sinclair Schuller stated that due to the nature of the takeover, he would have to refactor his diamond-milk equations to account for encyclopedic greed differentials. Unfortunately, the takeover forced the popcorn machine to fly over the hoover vacuum thrice.
 * US Congress convened in an emergency session to protect the unborn child of this merger and to prevent the feeding tube to be removed from Ms. Britannica. The House majority leader issued a statement condemning Mr. Wikipedia for his open lifestyle and accepting promiscuous contributions. The President of the US reiterated the need for the "culture of life" and his unwavering support for the death penalty.
 * A Star Wars fan remarks "Everything is proceeding as I have forseen."
 * Nobody can actually agree on what the proper name for a baby wombat is.
 * All your base are belong to us.
 * This sentence is false.
 * The editor responsible for the previous items has been sacked.
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Many RPG do have magic-powered swords, this is not a speedy candidate! --SuperDude 03:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * This will garner an overwhelming consensus to delete on VfD, just as the last CSD article you objected to did. But, if you insist, we can push it to VfD. I don't know how to get through to you to show you that creating junk articles like this is not beneficial to Wikipedia; however, the least you could do is accept the fact that these kinds of articles simply aren't going to be kept. android↔talk 04:29, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

I don't think this is a speedy. I'm going to take off the notice. The guidelines on speedies are not meant to cover this. Charles Matthews 07:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Good call. I posted it for a speedy since an admin was planning on doing it anyway.  Looks like we have ourselves a real article now!  Thanks for having a cooler head than I over this issue. - Lucky 6.9 19:16, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion results
This article was proposed for deletion; the result was to keep. See Votes for deletion/Magic sword for a record. Postdlf 00:20, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Other swords
should other swords such as Kladenets, Gram, Balmung, etc. be included here? if not: is there some obvious reason why an article listing Mythological/folkloric magic swords should not be made? --illumi 00:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Don't see any reason why noteworthy swords shouldn't be included, though as part of discussion might be better than a list.
 * A list of magical swords would also be fine. Goldfritha 00:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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American magic sword
Hey is there any kind of American mythological magic sword (not from sci fi).... I would think there wouldn't be as they all seem to predate the colonization era.... //// Pacific PanDeist * 09:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Jabberwocky
Lewis Carrol never specifies exactly what is meant by 'vorpal', Jabberwocky is a very silly poem and vorpal could mean anything from 'sharp' to 'shiny' to 'made of live weasels'. To the best of my knowledge no definition is given by Lewis Carrol. Vorpal blades can be found in many RPGs, and it is D&D that gives vorpal blades the power to decapitate something on a critical hit. (The youth in the poem does hack off the creatures head, but this probably occurs after the creature's death). Paladinwannabe2 19:10, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Caliburn and Excalibur
The article says that Caliburn was the name of the Sword in the Stone in Arthurian legend, and was a seperate sword from Excalibur. While most sources do support that the SitS was a different weapon, thos same sources state (And even Excalibur's Wikipedia article.) that Caliburn is simply an earlier name for Excalibur. To my knowledge, the Sword in the Stone never had any name other than "Sword in the Stone." --TwilightDuality (talk) 13:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Bolding
My understanding is that bolding is used for synonyms of the article title, not for examples of the subject. So the names of swords should be unbolded. If I'm misunderstanding the rule, then all the names should be bolded here--one or the other. Nareek (talk) 10:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Skofnung
How about a mention of the sword Skofnung from the saga of Hrolf Kraki?Bobbythemazarin (talk) 15:31, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice one. I second that.73.220.34.167 (talk) 18:12, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Biblical swords
This section is controversial. Many would argue that the biblical accounts (as well as the swords) are neither fictional nor mythological. In addition, none of the biblical swords were ever said to be "imbued with magical power". Going by the Magic (paranormal) page, magic is synonymous with sorcery. Supernatural power acquired through sorcery is essentially different from supernatural power given by God. To label these swords as "magic" is incorrect and quite controversial (as somebody mentioned on the Talk:Flaming sword (mythology) page).

Besides that, this whole section is vague and lacks citations (especially for the stuff about "extra-biblical mythology and traditions"). 96.227.142.233 (talk) 21:49, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

 * If a god made a magic sword, it would then be magical, no? Or are you talking about things like flaming swords being obvious metaphors?73.220.34.167 (talk) 18:11, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

 * The only issue I see is it being out of the Mythological section. "Myth" is not a statement of truth or falsehood, and the mythology of the Bible includes swords.--189.127.29.141 (talk) 03:26, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Abrahamic Swords?
"One would only have to see how they are referenced within the Holy Books of Christians, Jews and Muslims to make this point evident."

Where in these books are swords ever talked about? I mean, apart from some symbolism or a random reference. The Holy or Magical sword is more popular in German and Japanese culture than probably anywhere...73.220.34.167 (talk) 18:09, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Peace and Love
"Since most of them were Buddhists (a religion that finds violence and murder abhorent), that train of thought gave them some peace of mind in their killing vocation."

This sentence sounds like "Buddhists are peaceful, unlike other religions". As is typical in Western thought. Most religions speak against violence and murder. But most religions, such as Buddhism, allow for both in the right situation. Buddhists are not utter pacifists or non-violent as Westerner make out. Just like the vegetarian thing in the West. Real Buddhists eat meat daily. Try finding vegetarian food in Japan or China!

There is also no citation. In my experience, no citation is an auto-delete.

"Abhorrent" is also spelled wrong.

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I propose deletion of the biblical references. As demonstrated on this talk page they are a point of contention. Including them in this article, without citations, goes against the spirit of Wikipedia.

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Colin Mackenzie could not have been in India during the British Raj, as he died 37 years before the start of the period covered by that term! Eilthireach 03:46, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Disambiguation
Is a disambiguation page needed, given the wealth of Colin Mackenzies now beginning to appear on Wikipedia?45ossington (talk) 19:31, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Kavelli vs Cavelly
The name of his translator is spelled inconsistently in the article. Kavelli vs Cavelly. Tweisbach (talk) 01:57, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

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Schedule change
Around 4/25/2005 (?), trains 11 and 14 no longer stop at Glendale and instead stop at Van Nuys.

Eleven-hour schedule to go 400 miles, once per day
Even if it runs on time, the one daily train is scheduled to leave Los Angeles at 10:15am and arrive for example in Oakland at 9:32pm. This distance of about 400 miles is comparable to traveling from London to Edinburgh, for which British Rail has a train leaving every hour with a four and a half hour journey. Is that notable? Petershank (talk) 23:59, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

 * No, that is not notable. The two journey's, while similar in distance, are nowhere near similar in the terrain they must traverse.  Plus, the maximum speed on any one point of the Coast Starlight route is 79MPH.  The British version is capable of obtaining speeds beyond that, on a far straighter course, with no physical barriers to deal with.MAL01159 (talk) 16:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Yep.Clearly,thatBritish guy has never tried to traverse the California Central Coast,by either car or train.47.137.182.8 (talk) 06:29, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Pacific Parlour cars
Are these vehicles even still being used on the Starlight? I've read discussions and blogs from people that pay attention to these things who've noticed that the Starlight often (usually? always?) now operates without them. I think one major problem with them was that, even though they were remodeled vehicles, they were originally Budd Hi-Level cars used on the El Capitan service of the ATSF, and thus quite old. Even "routine" maintenance may have been more trouble than it was worth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.220.195 (talk) 08:32, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes, the Parlour cars are still very much in use. I cannot confirm this now, but I recall reading somewhere that there are 5 of them.  The same number of Coast Starlight trainsets.  A number of the Parlour cars were prone to breaking down in some way in the past.  Many were taken off the Starlight with an extra dining car put in its place.  But all was repaired in time for the recent re-launch of the Coast Starlight.  I have seen many Starlight trains run through town all with the Parlour.  On my recent trip on the Starlight, the Parlour car was included.MAL01159 (talk) 16:33, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Internet Connectivity
The train used to have pretty good Internet connectivity in all of the cars. A conductor explained that connectivity was achieved using the cell sites along Highway 1. Of course there were gaps in connectivity when the train, say, entered a tunnel. Then around 2018 no Internet connectivity was available at all. This may save some money but it sure is inconvenient on long trips. Of course the money savings are not reflected in the ticket price.

non Daylight?
In the 2nd sentence at the top of the page, there is a sentence where the name "Coast Starlight" comes from. I have heard of SP running a "Coast Daylight" but never "Noon" or "Morning" Daylight. Is there anything to support this?MAL01159 (talk) 16:38, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

My bad. After further review the names "Morning" and "Noon" Daylight were precursors to the "Coast Daylight" which began in the early '50's.MAL01159 (talk) 16:44, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Business class on the Starlight?
The On-board services section of the infobox lists both standard and business classes. Is this correct? I thought there's just coach class and the sleepers. Alika (talk) 08:10, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Good catch. Per [] it should be Sleeper Service and Coach class. Highspeed (talk) 08:46, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Route
I'm concerned that the Route section has gotten too long for this article; I think much of it would belong in as-yet unwritten articles about the various subdivisions, unless there's Coast Starlight-specific information. It's also all unreferenced. Mackensen (talk) 13:13, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree. While having a description of the route makes sense, the one here is long and poorly written. Reading it makes me feel like I'm listening to a Disney monorail narrator rather than reading an informative summary of the route. A description of a dozen individual track curves seems unnecessary to me, and I doubt most readers are going to care that Linn-Benton Community College is on the right after you leave Albany. If this same style is used on all the other remaining subdivisions, it's going to be a massive, cluttered wall of text that no one can understand. 66.214.200.149 (talk) 07:44, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm very tempted to remove the entire section for now. It's far, far too long per WP:SUMMARY, and it's all unreferenced. I don't this material belongs here. Mackensen (talk) 06:25, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The modifications Steverelei has made to this article reads like a long-form route guide, not the proper summary style that's supposed to be used on Wikipedia. Instead of just removing it all, maybe the best course of action would be to talk to Steverelei and instruct him on using summary style and references. --RickyCourtney (talk) 19:01, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

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San Diego
Trying to pin down some details on the San Diego operation in 1971-1972. The 1988 California Rail Development Plan says San Diego operation with "through cars" took place May 1971-June 1972. That corresponds with published timetables. Bruce Goldberg puts the end as "April 1972"; I don't recall if he specified through car operation. I think we can rule out June; Gene Poon was writing in the June 1972 issue of Pacific News that "through operation" to San Diego had ended. Unfortunately Trainlife doesn't have the May 1972 issue of Pacific News archived; there are plenty of holdings on the West Coast if someone wants to go looking. Mackensen (talk) 01:50, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Cuesta Hills
Shouldn't the caption for the Cuesta Hills picture read "Coast Starlight with the Cuesta Hills as a backdrop"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.137.182.8 (talk) 05:59, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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