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Charles Marvin
Is it accurate to describe Charles Marvin as a Russophobe? I realize he described himself as "both a Russophile and Russophobe" (intro by Louis Dupree to his book "The Russian Advance Towards India", but in the book itself it appears he is an almost credulous believer in Russian good intentions. Kd5mdk 06:04, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Tekke

 * The present inhabitants of the oasis are Turkomans of the Tekke tribe.

Tekke links to a type of Sufi practice or meeting place. Surely this isn't connected to the tribe. Wrong wikilink? Thanks --Dpr 02:56, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Could you re-edit the sentence to make it accurate? --Wetman 15:55, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Now links to disambig. Chris 08:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

"Some say..."
"Some say...: "Some say that Merv is the origin of Hindu belief in Mount Meru, which Hinduism declares to be the center of the world. Others suggest, however, that Mount Meru is another name for Mount Kailas in Tibet." This is babble unless we can be told who said... and when they said it... and even why this is relevant to Merv at all. Is there actually anything more than a very general confluence of phonemes in this? --Wetman 15:55, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Zend-Avesta vs Avesta
I just ran across the sentence "Merv is mentioned with 'Bakhdi' (Balkh) in the geography of the Zend-Avesta, which probably dates from the 7th century BCE though traditionally given extravagantly earlier dates."

I'm not sure what exactly that means: Is the reference in the Avesta or in the Zend? (the commentaries on the Avesta).

The texts of the Avesta is significantly older than its commentaries, but the commentaries linguistically date to our side of the BCE/CE line.

For now, I've rephrased the above sentence to read "Merv is mentioned with Bakhdi (Balkh) in the geography of the Zend-Avesta (commentaries on the Avesta)."

I hope thats an acceptable solution (unless of course, the mention isn't in the commentaries but in the Avesta proper). -- Fullstop 09:48, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Largest city in the world?
I've removed the following reference from the main article space:

''In the twelfth century Merv was briefly the largest city in the world. ''

These lists are both interesting and amusing, but it looks like generalizations and rough estimates. Such remarks need very good references. Valentinian (talk) 16:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes but....Ive put it back in in a weakened form. They are of course guesstimates (based on figures for food imports, etc, I believe) but historical population estimates almost by definition lack any solid numbers, so a lesser standard of proof can be accepted than for current figures. They are at any rate the best we have and if the source is respectable academically as this seems to be I see no reason to omit it. At the very least it conveys Merv's importance at that time. Jameswilson 22:48, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

 * There are just too many uncertainties for the old one, but the new version seems ok. Valentinian (talk) 07:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Population
Article Brahui people mentions that Dravidian people Brahui's live in this area but doesnt however mentions numbers. Does anybody know about Brahui presence in this area today? Luka Jačov 23:07, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Proposal for Disambiguation page and subsequent renaming of this article
MERV is also a unit used for filter performance —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mkbnett (talk • contribs) 23:00, 9 March 2007 (UTC). Yes brauhi people live in balochistan province.They are actually balochs and we have seen the existence of baloch in merv. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.96.229.85 (talk) 11:01, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Large edit?
I'm a new Wikipedia member but I happen to know a lot about Merv -- I'm a grad student and I've just written a small overview paper on the archaeology which has been done at Merv. I was wondering if you would be receptive to a major edit/embellishment on most of the sections, especially the "Remains" section. I guarantee it will be well-sourced and from a neutral point of view; most of my sources were Preliminary Reports by the International Merv Project and the Ancient Merv Project. If it's bad do not hesitate to revert to a previous version. I have already written the new version, I am waiting for some feedback before I post it. Xaphoo 03:06, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I went ahead and changed it. I hope it's ok. Xaphoo 19:31, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Did Ban Chao ever reach Merv?
User:99.130.8.150 added a claim previously in this article that the Chinese general Ban Chao reached Merv in 97 CE. Today he or she repeated this claim on the Ban Chao page and gave the same reference - a link to a tourist website: which makes the romantic claim that: "Accompanied by horsemen arrayed in bright red leather,he himself went as far west as Merv and made contacts with Parthia,Babylonia and Syria." There is no reference or even date for this amazing account given on the website. There is absolutely no such reference in any of the Chinese historical texts, or any other ancient source. This appears to be pure fantasy. All that we really know about these contacts with the West is included in the 'Chapter on the Western Regions' in the Hou Hanshu which says:

 * "In the ninth Yongyuan year [97 CE], during the reign of Emperor He, the Protector General Ban Chao sent Gan Ying to Da Qin [the Roman Empire]. He reached Tiaozhi [Characene and Susiana] next to a large sea [the Persian Gulf]. He wanted to cross it, but the sailors of the western frontier of Anxi [Parthia] said to him: "The ocean is huge. Those making the round trip can do it in three months if the winds are favourable. However, if you encounter winds that delay you, it can take two years. That is why all the men who go by sea take stores for three years. The vast ocean urges men to think of their country, and get homesick, and some of them die." When [Gan] Ying heard this, he discontinued (his trip)."

You can check this out in my draft translation at: or wait until my new book - a much revised and enlarged version - which is due to be published soon: Through the Jade Gate to Rome: A Study of the Silk Routes during the Later Han Dynasty 1st to 2nd Centuries CE. An annotated translation of the Chronicle on the ‘Western Regions’ from the Hou Hanshu. Booksurge. ISBN 978-1-4392-2134-1. It contains detailed discussions of the movements of Ban Chao as well as Gan Ying. In any case, there is no evidence whatsoever that Ban Chao ever got farther than the Tarim Basin except for one brief reference in his bibliography that he once went as far (south) as the "Hanging Passages," which were probably in northern Hunza. Sincerely, John Hill (talk) 04:10, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

"Largest city in the world"
Based on modern estimates, Merv was not the largest city in the world at any point in the 12th century; nor was it really that close. To my knowledge, though perhaps there was another, even larger, city that I don't know about, Constantinople consistently held that title. Back in the 80's, it was assumed that the 11th and 12th centuries were periods of economic and demographic decline across the board in the Byzantine empire, including Constantinople, but since the 90's archaeological and literary evidence has consistently shown that there was, in fact, widespread economic and population *growth* in that period. Recent estimates of Constantinople's 12th century population by historians like Paul Magdalino and Angeliki Laiou give a minimum estimate of 300,000, but likely closer to 400,000, for the mid-late 12th century. Considering this, I'm going to remove the portions of the article that claim Merv was the largest city in the world.

Jeandukeofalecon (talk) 00:33, 3 November 2017 (UTC)JeanDukeofAlecon

Article
, I would highly advise you to request Marw al-S̲h̲āhid̲j̲ān at WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request. Historic cities of the Islamic world has a section devoted to Merv, I'll send it to you now. Also, as LouisAragon said, the article has some non-WP:RS sources. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:22, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * , no problem, and thanks for your guidance. Regarding some non-WP:RS sources identified in the article's content, would you or LouisAragon mind removing them whenever you have time. I'll later find better sources and copy-edit the page once again. Let's make it a good article together, since I believe that this, once a majestic city, deserves it! Thank you!-- Visioncurve Timendi causa est nescire  15:51, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

 * To mention the Mongol invasion as a genocide, will need rather strong sourcing. TrangaBellam (talk) 11:39, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Removed Islamstory, as it was not WP:RS. Citations such as the Guardian, Britannica, Tourstoturkmenistan, https://www.medeniyet.gov.tm/, and Imam Reza Net are not WP:RS either. Also, there is still a lot of information that can be added in the pre-Islamic history of Merv. --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:39, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The common name for 'Soltangala' seems in fact to be 'Sultan Kala'. More information on that can be found in Cities of medieval Iran and Cities in the Pre-Modern Islamic World. The Urban Impact of Religion, State and Society. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:50, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

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Rotwelsch

Rotwelsch (, "beggar's foreign (language)") or Gaunersprache ( "crook's language") also Khokhmer Loshn (from Yiddish "חוכמער לשון", "tongue of the wise") is a secret language, a cant or thieves' argot, spoken by groups (primarily marginalized groups) in Germany, Switzerland, Austria, and Bohemia. The language is based on a mix of Low German, Yiddish, Hebrew, Romani, Latin, and Czech with a High German substrate.

Name
Rotwelsch was first named by Martin Luther in his preface of Liber Vagatorum in the 16th century. Rot means "beggar" while welsch means "incomprehensible" (cf *Walhaz): thus, rotwelsch signifies the incomprehensible cant of beggars.

History
Rotwelsch was formerly common among travelling craftspeople and vagrants. The language is built on a strong substratum of German, but contains numerous words from other languages, notably from various German dialects, and other Germanic languages like Yiddish, as well as from Romany languages. Rotwelsch has also played a great role in the development of the Yeniche language. In form and development it closely parallels the commercial speech ("shopkeeper language") of German-speaking regions.

During the 19th and 20th century, Rotwelsch was the object of linguistic repression, with systematic investigation by the German police.

Examples

 * Schokelmei = Kaffee (coffee)
 * schenigeln = arbeiten (to work)
 * Krauter = Chef eines Handwerkbetriebes (master artisan)
 * Kreuzspanne = Weste (waistcoat)
 * Wolkenschieber = Frisör, Barbier (barber)
 * Stenz = Wanderstock des Handwerksburschen (walking stick)
 * fechten = betteln (to beg)
 * Platte machen = Unterkunft suchen (to seek lodging)
 * Puhler = Polizist (policeman)

From Feraru's Muskel-Adolf & Co.
From:
 * Peter Feraru: Muskel-Adolf & Co.: Die ›Ringvereine‹ und das organisierte Verbrechen in Berlin [Muscle-Adolf & Co.: The ›Ring-Clubs‹ and Organised Crime in Berlin]. Argon, Berlin 1995.

 * abfaßen = to arrest (literally 'touch off', secondary: 'to write out')
 * acheln = to eat (from Hebrew)
 * ackern = to go acquire; to go off the line (literally 'to till or cultivate')
 * den Affen kaufen = to get drunk (literally 'to buy the ape')
 * alle gehn = to be arrested; to vanish into thin air
 * assern = to testify against someone, to 'betray' them
 * aufmucken = to revolt against orders
 * auftalgen = to hang (literally 'to grease up')
 * der Getalgente = the hanged man
 * balldowern = to spy out; to make inquiries about (perhaps from Hebrew Ba'al Davar = one who brings an accusation)
 * ballmischpet = examining magistrate (from Hebrew Ba'al Mishpat = Master of Law)
 * der Bau = the prison or penitentiary (literally 'the lodge')
 * Bauer = a stupid simple-minded person (literally 'peasant' or 'farmer')
 * begraben sein = to be hunted for a long time (literally 'to be buried')
 * bei jom = by day (Hebrew yom = day)
 * bei leile = by night (Hebrew laila = night)
 * der Bello = the prison toilet
 * beramschen = to swindle
 * berappen = to pay up or fork over money (literally 'to plaster a wall'); also possibly from Malayan through Dutch: berapa means 'how much?' (what does it cost), now integrated in Dutch as berappen: to pay.
 * betuke = discreet or imperceptible (perhaps from Hebrew betokh = within)
 * die Bim = the tramway
 * bleffen (or anbleffen) = to threaten. Possibly from Dutch: blaffen: to bark (like a dog).
 * der Bock, from Romani bokh = hunger, coll. Bock haben = to be up for something.
 * Bombe = coffee glass (literally 'bombshell')
 * brennen (literally 'to burn') = Extortion, but also to collect the "thieves' portion" with companions. The analogy between distilling spirits (Branntweinbrennen) and taking a good gulp of the portion (Anteil) is obvious.

Current status
Variants of Rotwelsch, sometimes toned down, can still be heard among travelling craftspeople and funfair showpeople as well as among vagrants and beggars. Also, in some southwestern and western locales in Germany, where travelling peoples were settled, many Rotwelsch terms have entered the vocabulary of the vernacular, for instance in the municipalities of Schillingsfürst and Schopfloch. Some Rotwelsch- and Yenish-speaking vagrant communities also exist in Switzerland due the country's neutral status during World War Two.

A few Rotwelsch words have entered the colloquial language, for example, aufmucken, Bau, and berappen. Baldowern or ausbaldowern is very common in the Berlin dialect; Bombe is still used in German prison jargon. Bock haben is also still used all around Germany. The Manisch dialect of the German city of Gießen is still used, although it was only spoken fluently by approximately 700-750 people in 1976.

Code
Josef Ludwig Blum from Lützenhardt (Black Forest) wrote from war prison:

"[E]s grüßt Dich nun recht herzlich Dein Mann, viele Grüße an Schofel und Bock. Also nochmals viel Glück auf ein baldiges Wiedersehen in der schönen Heimat. Viele Grüße an Mutter u. Geschwister sowie an die Deinen."

The censors allowed the passage to remain, apparently believing that Bock and Schofel were people. They were instead code words, Schofel ("bad") and Bock ("hunger"), which hid the message that the prisoners weren't doing well, and that they were starving.

In arts
A variant of Rotwelsch was spoken by some American criminal groups in the 1930s and the 1940s, and harpist Zeena Parkins' 1996 album Mouth=Maul=Betrayer made use of spoken Rotwelsch texts.

An example of Rotwelsch is found in Gustav Meyrink's Der Golem and reads as follows:

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9th Panzer Division (Wehrmacht)

The 9th Panzer Division was a panzer division of the German Army during World War II. It came into existence after 4th Light Division was reorganized in January 1940. The division was headquartered in Vienna, in the German military district Wehrkreis XVII.

Originally raised from Austrian forces annexed into Germany before the war, the 9th Panzer Division was part of most of the German Army's early Blitzkrieg attacks into western Europe. Sweeping east, the division was then a component of Operation Barbarossa, the German attack on the Soviet Union; it was badly mauled at the Battle of Kursk.

Returning to France to rebuild in 1944, the division was rushed to counter Operation Overlord. It was destroyed several successive times by British and American forces as the German Army was pushed back across Europe. The division suffered massive casualties in armor and personnel until it finally collapsed in March 1945. The division's few survivors were pushed into the Ruhr Pocket where they surrendered to the Allies at the end of the war.

Organization
In 1942, the division was organized around three regiments. Its tanks were organized into the 33rd Panzer Regiment, which was supported by two regiments of panzergrenadiers, or mechanized infantry. These were the 10th Panzer Grenadier Regiment and the 11th Panzer Grenadier Regiment. Also assigned to the division were the 102nd Panzer Artillery Regiment, the 9th Motorcycle Battalion, the 9th Panzer Reconnaissance Battalion, the 50th Panzer Jager Battalion, the 86th Panzer Pionier Battalion, the 81st Panzer Signal Battalion, the 287th Army Anti-Aircraft Battalion, and the 60th Panzer Divisional Supply Troops.

History
Following the Anschluss annexation of Austria in 1938, the 4th Light Division was formed in Vienna after converting a mobile division of the Bundesheer (the Austrian Army) in April of that year. It initially consisted of the 33rd Panzer Battalion, the 102nd Motorized Artillery Regiment, and the 10th and 11th Motorized Cavalry Regiments. In 1939, it fought in the Invasion of Poland, on the right flank of Army Group South, attacking out of Slovakia, pushing over the San River on 10 September and capturing Krakowiec on 12 September. It then moved to establish a bridgehead over the Bug River at Krylow on 14 September. The division then turned west, blocking the escape of several units of the Polish Army. In the process the division took tens of thousands of prisoners. On 24 October, the division departed Salzberg, returning to Vienna by train. That winter, it was converted to the 9th Panzer Division and formally redesignated on 3 January 1940. It consisted of the 9th Rifle Brigade, the 33rd Panzer Battalion, the 102nd Panzer Artillery Regiment, and several other divisional units.

Early campaigns
Following a further reorganization increasing its strength to two tank battalions and three motorised infantry regiments, the division was sent to the Western Front to participate in the Battle of the Netherlands starting on 10 May 1940. Part of the 18th Army, which defeated The Netherlands in a grueling five days, 9th Panzer Division played an essential role in the German strategy. The division was the only German mechanized force allocated to 18th Army and was intended primarily to link up with airborne forces landed near Rotterdam and The Hague. On 12 May, the division was launched in the south of The Netherlands to exploit a breakthrough by German infantry divisions, quickly advancing to the Moerdijk bridges, which had been captured by Student's paratroopers. Before that, near Breda, the division split up, sending one battalion north over the Moerdijk bridges to try and enter the Dutch National Redoubt, Fortress Holland. On 13 May, however, during its first actual fighting of the campaign, the battalion suffered considerable losses in a failed assault on the centre of Dordrecht.

On 14 May, the battalion stood ready to assault Rotterdam, but the Dutch surrendered the same day after a carpet bombing of that city's civilian centre by the Luftwaffe. The other part of the division went south, after the retreating French 7th Army and the Belgian Army, towards Antwerp and Dunkirk. Parts of 9th Panzer Division, along with SS Leibstandarte, were tasked by Adolf Hitler to conduct an improvised triumphal march through the streets of Amsterdam to underscore the German victory over the Netherlands.

Following the evacuation of Dunkirk, 9th Panzer Division was assigned to Panzer Group Guderian and participated in the Battle of France. During this stage it was under the command of XXXIX Motorized Corps. It pushed through the Weygand Line towards Paris, crossing the Oise River, Aisne River, Marne River and Loire River, taking thousands of prisoners in the process. By the time of the French surrender, the 9th Panzer Division was in Lyon. During the Western campaign, the division was credited with covering more ground than any other German division.

The division returned to Vienna in July 1940. There, it continued to reorganize and grow, adopting the organization that it kept for most of the war with one tank regiment, two panzergrenadier regiments and one artillery regiment. In September, it was sent to Poland with the XL Panzer Corps.

In the spring of 1941, 9th Panzer Division participated in the Balkans Campaign. It was shipped to Romania and was made the armored spearhead of the 12th Army. It managed some blitzkrieg tactics through the Balkans, separating the Greek Army from the Royal Yugoslav Army, then attacking into Yugoslavia itself. As part of the 12th Army, the 9th Panzer Division pushed back the main British Army, Greek and Australian Army forces Once these armies were in retreat, the division was sent to Romania in preparation for Operation Barbarossa, the invasion of the Soviet Union.

Operation Barbarossa
Once Operation Barbarossa was launched, the 9th Panzer Division, part of XIV Panzer Corps (Germany) of the Army Group South, pushed through Ukraine on 28 June, heading to Kiev after the Battle of Brody (1941). The division broke through the Stalin Line on 7 July, took part in the encirclement of Uman, and captured Krivoy Rog and Nikopol on 17 August. The 9th Panzer Division then captured the Dnieper River Dam at Zaporizhia on 25 August. From there, it was made the spearhead of Panzer Group Kleist, driving to Kiev from the south while Panzer Group Guderian drove behind the city from the north. The two groups linked up on 15 September, encircling five field armies of the Soviet Army. The division was part of the force that captured 667,000 Soviet prisoners and 900 tanks in the city.

Following the capture of Kiev, the 9th Panzer Division was made a part of Panzer Group Guderian for the advance on Moscow. The division then took part in the encirclement of Bryansk and, despite delays due to terrain, weather and Red Army resistance, captured Kursk on 2 November. It was halted near the Kursk Oblast settlement of Tim. From there, the division held a sector near Shchigry on the southern sector, facing the Soviet winter offensives of 1941 and 1942. The division remained on this sector until Soviet attacks abated in March 1942.

Case Blue
During Soviet offensive from the bridgehead north Voronezh on the west bank of the Don River against the German 7th Corps, the 9th Panzer Division was released from 2nd Army reserves to lead a counterattack and stabilize the front of the 7th Corps. On the evening the 9th Panzer Division counterattacked to stabilize the front of the 387th Infantry Division to open a relief of the encircled 542nd Infantry Regiment. The next day, July 24, 1942, the 9th Panzer Division along with the 385th Infantry Division, began an offensive aimed towards Lomovo to outflank Soviet “Group Chibisov” consisting of the 1st and 2nd Tank Corps. Bitter fighting ensued over the course of the next days with the commanding general, Johannes Bäßler, was seriously wounded and relieved of command. Heinrich-Hermann von Hülsen, commander of the 9th Panzer Grenadier Regiment then assumed command. The fighting to stabilize the front German northern flank around Zemlyansk, northwest of Voronezh continued until July 29, 1942 when the front of the 7th Corps was stabilized and the 9th Panzer Division was released.

Operation Mars
The 9th Panzer Division, commanded by General Walter Scheller, fought in the Second Rzhev-Sychyovka Offensive Operation also referred to as Operation Mars.

After the initial Soviet breakthrough by the Soviet 20th Army on November 26, the 9th Panzer Division was ordered to form two kampfgruppen to attack up the Rzhev-Sychevka road to stem the advance of Soviet 20th Army to the west.

Operation Citadel
During a lull in hostilities in early 1943, the division was again reorganized and reequipped, sent to Orel and transferred to Army Group Center, where it participated in Operation Citadel and the Battle of Kursk in the summer of that year as a part of XLVII Panzer Corps, 9th Army. Fighting alongside the 2nd, 4th and 20th Panzer divisions and the 6th Infantry Division, it tried unsuccessfully to break through the Soviet defensive belt. The division fought on the front for an extended period of time, suffering heavy casualties. In one engagement, the division lost 70 tanks to Soviet Ilyushin Il-2 aircraft in just 20 minutes. After an advance of only 15 km and suffering heavy casualties, it abandoned its attempt to reach Kursk.

Following the German defeat at Kursk, the 9th Panzer Division was heavily engaged in the German retreat to the Mius-Front, a line of German fortifications along the Mius River. It covered the retreat of the 2nd Panzer Army and the 9th Army, north of Orel and Kirov, then fought in a series of battles east of Bryansk at the end of August. The division participated in fights at Stalino, Zaporozhye, Odessa, and Dnieper.

During the fights of late 1943 and early 1944 it suffered mounting losses, and by January 1944 it was reduced to 13 tanks (on 20 November 1943: 6 operational tanks out of 30 total; the fewest operational tanks out of any Army Group South panzer division ) and substantially under-strength infantry and artillery formations. It continued a slow retreat across the Ingulez and the Ingul, until it was pulled out of the fighting in April.

Western Front
The division was subsequently sent to Nimes, France to rebuild, as many divisions mauled on the Eastern Front were. On 1 May 1944, it absorbed men and tanks of the 155th Reserve Panzer Division to return to its full strength. During this absorption it received 31 Panzer IIIs, 74 Panzer IVs, 20 assault guns, 15 Panther tanks and 200 other vehicles. The division then conducted training exercises up until June of that year. It was reassigned to an area on the Rhone River for a time. It was in better shape than many of the other divisions in the area, which were refitting, forming, or lacked transportation to move effectively.

Following the D-Day landings conducted by the Allies, the division was rushed to northern France to participate in the Battle of Normandy. At this time, its strength was up to 150 tanks and assault guns and 12,768 men. The division was sent to Avignon, before being sent to support the collapsing 7th Army in Normandy. The division arrived just as the army was encircled by American, French, British, and Canadian forces at Falaise. In the subsequent furious battle, the division was almost completely destroyed escaping the Falaise Pocket. By late August, its strength was at around 1,500 organized in one infantry battalion, one artillery battalion, and 5 tanks. However, it continued to cover the escape of Army Group G from Normandy.

Following its near-destruction at Falaise, the division remained in the German Siegfried Line where it fought several engagements, most notably the Battle of Aachen. Over the next month, it lost over 1,000 men, two-thirds of its combat strength. At the end of September 1944, the 9th Panzer Division was sent into Army Group B's reserve and rehabilitated. It was given 11,000 more replacements and 178 armored vehicles, including 50 Panther tanks. It was to reinforce German units countering Operation Market Garden, but by the time it arrived at Arnhem, the Allied forces had been pushed back. The 9th Panzer Division was returned to the line around Geilenkirchen and Aachen, where it launched a spoiling attack against US forces in the Peel Marshes in November, but only succeeded in losing 30 tanks in the process. It then reassembled west of the Rur River with a strength of 10,000 men, 28 Panther tanks and 14 Panzer IV tanks. Along with elements of the 15th Panzer Grenadier Division, 9th Panzer fought a bitter six-day battle with the U.S. 2nd Armored Division in the Puffendorf-Immendorf sector, knocking out 76 tanks and inflicting 1,300 casualties while suffering 1,100 men and 86 tanks lost. Following this, the division was sent into the OKW reserve. It continued fighting to slow the progress of the U.S. First Army pushing from the west, destroying its 2,325th enemy tank near Geilenkirchen.

In December 1944, 9th Panzer was assigned to XLVII Panzer Corps again as part of the 5th Panzer Army, Army Group B and was one of the units participating in the Battle of the Bulge. At this time sPzAbt 301 (equipped with Tiger I tanks) was attached to the division. The Corps was part of the central attack, pushing back the First United States Army. The division initially advanced quickly, but once the tide of the campaign turned in the Allies' favor, the division took extreme losses once again as Adolf Hitler refused to allow the German forces in the campaign to retreat in a timely manner. It was eventually pulled back to the German lines.

In early 1945, the division engaged the Allied in fighting around the Eifel mountain range. It also participated in fighting around the Erft River in February, where its armored force was reduced to 29 tanks and 16 assault guns. Late in the month, it launched an attack on the Allied Remagen Bridgehead over the Rhine River, which failed to reach the Remagen Bridge. By the end of this fight, the division consisted of only 600 men and 15 tanks.

Destruction
The 9th Panzer Division's final combat assignment came in a battle near Cologne on 6 March, as a part of the battered LXXXI Corps, alongside the 363rd Volksgrenadier Division and the 3rd Panzergrenadier Division which were in equally poor shape, and the entire corps was barely the strength of one division. Facing them was the US 3rd Armored Division. The division attempted to defend the town from attack, but was unable to make progress against American forces.

After its unsuccessful attack, the shattered 9th Panzer Division was counterattacked by strong Allied forces. The division engaged the Americans in the city center of Cologne, but were quickly pushed back, and the divisional commander was killed. Remnants of the division attempted to flee across the Rhine River. In the fighting that followed, the weak formation finally collapsed. Most of the remains of the division were forced into the Ruhr Pocket, continuing to suffer staggering losses while holding lines on the south flank of Army Group B until they surrendered to American forces in April 1945. By this time, the demoralized soldiers of the division were entirely out of ammunition and gasoline, and remaining troops surrendering without a fight. The division continued to exist briefly afterward; Major Halle, the division's adjutant, escaped the Ruhr encirclement with a small battle group, and joined the 11th Army in the Harz Mountains. There, on 26 April 1945, German commanders of OB West disbanded the 9th Panzer Division, absorbing its survivors into other units.

Commanding officers
The division was commanded by 11 people during its total history. This included General Friedrich Wilhelm von Mellenthin, who was acting division commander from December 1944 to February 1945 because General Harald Freiherr von Elverfeldt had been wounded in an Allied air attack.

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An anon deleted the existing article and replaced it with a chronology that doesn't fit WP standards, and looked copyvio-ish as well. So I reverted it. However, the chronology probably had some worthwhile info in it, so someone may want to take a look at it in the history and merge some of that into the existing article. Everyking 06:20, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Needs work
This article really requires a thorough rewrite. I chopped it up into more manageable sections, although I'm not really happy with where it is right now. It needs a lot of work.

Currently, the article has no references, and it is in dire need of some.

And if anyone happens across this article that speaks Kurdish, or whatever his local language was, getting his name down in the local language would be helpful to the article.Pepsi2786 22:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The section on the split between the Iraqi Kurds and Qasim is grossly oversimplified, and doesn't deal with the complex issues regarding Barzani's KDP, Communism, pan-Arabism, etc. Rpine75 01:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Dates of his death do not match. The opening states March 1, 1979. Later in the article it says he passed at Georgetown Hospital on March 3rd, 1979 Anonymous 09:00, 23 February 2009 (EST)

Rewrite
As the article stands currently, it is a result of a hodgepodge of edits based on second-hand sources. There are little references to be found, which is necessary for a biographical article. I am going to get a few books in the coming days relating to Kurdish history- such as "A Modern History of the Kurds", among others, in order to get information more appropriate for an encyclopedic format. Unfortunately Biographies of Barzani are difficult to come by. If anyone else also wants to pitch in, feel free- but we need sources. MercZ (talk) 06:50, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

New picture
Barzani's picture is pixelated, I added a new and better picture. --Alan Genco (talk) 22:24, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

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Counting Crows/Pop culture reference?
There was a song put out by Counting Crows in 1999 entitled "St. Robinson In His Cadillac Dream." The lyrics went: ''Staring out of his window as the world rushes by / Arthur Robinson closes the glass and replies / "I dream of ballerinas and I don't know why / But I see a Cadillac sailing." ''

Same guy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by M. Frederick (talk • contribs) 07:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Military service?
While Robinson served with the OSS, this does not mean he was a member of the US military either commissioned or enlisted. The reference which might verify this is a dead link and the other reference is print only -- thus difficult to verify.--S. Rich (talk) 22:49, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * According to this photo of his file, he was commissioned (captain), later major. --92.105.72.112 (talk) 09:02, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

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Joram added this sentence: ''Uganda Anarchists seem to be the only political movement with a proper radical political and a very rich support from young people and the civil society The Uganda silent majority''. Is there any objective source for this sentence. The link is to an anarchist site. Electionworld 06:24, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The introduction
The Movement may dominate but Uganda isn't as authoritarian as the intro makes it sound. Needs rewording. Improved explanations of the non-party nature of Ugandan politics are needed across all Uganda articles. TreveXtalk 02:22, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
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Sam Spade Apply now, exciting opportunities available at Spade & Archer! 06:25, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC) - With regard to the reliability of the testimonies by apostates in general and in Opus Dei and its subpage please take into account on that this is an extremely sensitive issue. I had minor involvment in Opus Dei, but I am an apostate in the sociological meaning of the word ("critical former member") of another religious group. I consider the negative generalizations that Wilson makes about a very diverse "group" of people untrue, outdated (they may have had some truth during the time of the anti-cult scare of the 1970s and 1980s), insulting and his excessive scepticism that he prometes ridiculous. It is simply hate speech. Andries 10:13, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks Marax for your sympathy. How would you feel when you went through a traumatic experience and were labelled unreliable, not just by a defender of the faith, but by an academic on the basis of sweeping generalizations? Here is my story if you are interested. Here is an article that voices some of the objections that I have against Wilson's generalizations.  Andries 10:40, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

(X-post from Talk:Opus_Dei). Not sure if you did this Marax, but the intro para seems to contain a contradiction. It indicates first that Opus Dei was "created by the Roman Catholic Church" and then that it was "founded" by St. Escriva. It seems to me that we ought to distinguish b/t something created institutionally by the Pope or the College of Cardinals, and something created by an individual who was just a priest at the time. To that end, I think it's misleading to say that Opus Dei was "created" by the church. --Kchase02 07:56, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Opus Dei: Responses to Cult Accusations
Hi! The page Opus Dei: Responses to Cult Accusations appears to be orphaned. It is not referred to and is untouched. Would you object to its deletion? --William Pietri 01:13, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking care of it! -- William Pietri 15:22, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I see. I understand that the article at least partially deals with the accusations, but perhaps I need clarification on Wikipedia policy regarding uncited statements. Since the sentence I mentioned is both contentious and uncited/unsourced, is this still ligit? Thanks, and I don't mean to press the issue, just wanted to clarify this for my own understanding.

Another interesting issue to discuss is the characterization of Catholic Church affiliates of being liberal/progressive or conservative/orthodox. The fairness of the labels differs from religion to religion, but it seems that with Catholicism, since it's precepts are clearly laid out in writing, and many are declared unchangeable--as with the mission of the Church--I think that the orthodox/heterodox labels are more egalitarian. In a sense, there is no such thing as a "conservative" or "liberal" Catholic, only orthodox and less orthodox ones; that is, those who choose to embrace all the Church's teachings and those who choose only embrace some. So since the definition and limits of orthodoxy are so clearly laid out for Catholics, it would seem that the orthodox/unorthodox labels are preferable.

Pianoman123 14:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Flannery O'Connor picture
As much as I prefer your picture, I don't think it can be used in the Roman Catholic Church article. As a copyrighted picture, it can only be "fair use" in an article which deals with her. The Monica picture is public domain due to age, and doesn't have this limitation. Is the O'Connor picture is public domain? (You can respond here.) Gimmetrow 02:44, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Hi Gimmetrow. Thank you for this background information on the O'Connor picture. My profound apologies for missing this point. You are correct. :-) it is better to bring back the image of St. Monica. Marax 01:07, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Flannery O'Connor
Hey. I didn't upload the Flannery O'Connor picture; that honor goes to RudyLucius. I do agree with you about puting it in the Catholic Church article; she does represent Catholic laity quite well. Good luck finding permission! Caesar 19:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Comment to User:Heavyrock
Hello, I was in the process of moving the comment you left on Heavyrock's user page, but I noticed that you repeated the comment on their Talk page. I still removed your comment from their user page. -- Gogo Dodo 08:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Re your message: Not a problem. It happens from time to time.  No worries. =)  If Heavyrock gets back to you, you might consider telling them that they can probably find an admin to delete the blank user page that was the result of my removal.  That is if they prefer a non-existant user page over a blank user page. -- Gogo Dodo 05:03, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Could you help?
There's a Request for Comment at Talk:Opus Dei.

After going through the process which led up to mediation (here), a mediation that resolved that the majority POV is the view of experts such as John Allen, Jr. and Benedict XVI, the main opponent of the article replaced the old article with his own personal version, and then asked for an Request for Comment.

Kindly give your comment. Please. :) Thanks and God bless. Arturo Cruz 15:25, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Edward Grant
Hi, Marax. Yesterday I transformed a previous redirect to Ted Grant in an article about the historian Edward Grant. However, today I noticed that around two weeks ago you created Edward Grant (Historian and philosopher). Now we (or somebody else) need to merge both articles. I think Grant is notable enough for the article to be named simply as "Edward Grant" (he is the first subject that appears when someone google for his name). I suggest that we merge the content from the version you started earlier into the one I started yesterday, and then make "Edward Grant (Historian and philosopher)" a redirect page. What do you think? (I would happily do the merge all by myself, but notice that if I am the one merging your text into the new article it will appear as if I was the author). --Leinad ∴ -diz aí. 13:02, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Opus Dei GAR
I actually quite like the Opus Dei article, and if the material in the Replies to criticism section was distributed in the rest of the article it would probably have my support in its GAR. I completely agree with you that the research findings of Allen, Introvigne, Messori, Plunkett, et al are worthy of a serious encyclopedia, it's just that their presentation as an apparent refutation of the previously stated criticism that I think tips the POV-meter slightly into the red zone. With a little bit of reorganisation I think it would be a fine article, well up to GA. --Malleus Fatuarum (talk) 11:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Opus Dei GAR
Dear Alec, Thank you for your work at Opus Dei. You might be interested to know that its GA status is under review and the major question raised is the present structure which you ably proposed and implemented: a separate controversy section containing both criticism and response. I tried my best to defend it but I believe you will be able to defend it better than I do. :) Marax (talk) 02:49, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks for alerting me to this-- I'm sorry that my words actually probably do more to have it de-listed than kept, but, ya know-- I have to offer my honest opinion, even though the article really is partially "my baby" and even though I worked really hard on it, I don't, objectively, think it's a good article.

 * something you might consider doing, if this does get delisted, is to make a private fork like I did, write up what your "dream Opus Dei" article would look like, and then submit it to the GAR/FAC people, and see what they think of it.

 * As I've said elsewhere-- the controversy and rebuttal to controversy isn't good, but it's not horrible, and I think reintegrating them, the page will get swept towards horrible rather than good.  But honestly, you might consider writing up an article that's "Opus Dei" by Marax.  If you can get the Featured Article people to agree that your private version is FA quality, it'll have my support also :)   --Alecmconroy (talk) 15:17, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

 * That's an interesting suggestion, and might be worth doing whether the article gets delisted or not. It may be easier to defend the "dream Opus Dei" article from instability than defend attempts to edit the existing content towards NPOV. Geometry guy 18:57, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Removal of NPOV
The article is fundamentally changed, and very much for the better. Very well done, Marax. It is better structured, better balanced and generally better written. The NPOV is no longer necessary. Thanks for your hard work on it. --Jaimehy (talk) 12:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Congrats on GA Promotion of Opus Dei
Hi Marax,

I reviewed the GAN of Opus Dei and found it to be an overall excellent article. Thanks for all of the hard work you put into it, congratulations, and good luck in your future edits.

Here is something for you; please pass it on to any deserving editors that you know of or worked with on this project.

Best regards,

Malachirality (talk) 22:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much, Malachirality. :) I would have wanted to thank you in your talk page, but since you requested that conversations are held in one place, I am thanking you here. It was very kind of you to review the article and give it much praise. I will indeed pass on the badge, or whatever it is called, to many other deserving editors who worked on this. Thanks again! Marax (talk) 00:49, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

 * A belated thanks too for your hard work. The box is deserved. Baccyak4H (Yak!) 19:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

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Ratzinger
Are you preparing a reply to my comments against including Ratzinger in the Truth article?

 * Thanks for your comments, Jim Wae. :) I've just posted a reply at the talk page.

Are we going to see Ratzinger's opinions appear on every page he has ever said a word about?

 * According to his own thinking, the most important question is on truth: it is, for him, the key to the whole problem of modernity. So I have been trying to help Wikipedia readers get to know the main points of this notable contemporary thinker on a contemporary issues which he believes to be very important, and where he has written notable contributions.

His remarks about Agnosticism are in no way original - essentially the same thing appears in the Catholic Encyclopedia of 1907 that you linked to. --JimWae (talk) 19:34, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

 * The Catholic Encyclopedia of 1907 does not discuss terrorism and ecological disasters. Also it lacks a discussion of the relation between truth and tolerance, an important contemporary issue.Marax (talk) 04:25, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

My apologies for the confusion. I have corrected my misstatement and did my best to convey how wiki policy applies to these additions on the talk page. BTW I'm not a "wiki lawyer" as I'm just trying to make some sense of whats appropriate for the article. Modocc (talk) 22:12, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Religious scholars
Thank you very very much Marax. I am very happy to read your contribution in Agnosticism. Very well done. Ratzinger is a spokesman for all religious people in India and other parts of the world. Thank you. Pradeshkava (talk) 10:44, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sandboxed

 * Hi. I've gone ahead and rescued what I could of your contributions, as I indicated I would at my talk page. I've stored text by you that did not build off of existing but constituted new copyrightable material at User:Marax/sandbox. You are free to modify this material and incorporate it in the article as seems appropriate. I've clustered the material by contribution groups, and some of the later contrib groups supersede the earlier material. I had to start from the beginning in order to determine what represented wholly new content by you. Some of the finer details that were added to existing text have been lost, I'm afraid, and again I apologize for the delay, but I hope that this will prove useful to you. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:12, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

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Serviam
Hi, where did you get the material for Serviam? A Gbooks search shows nothing real except a self published book, probably lifted from Wikipedia. I am not sure if this material is correct. Please clarify on the talk page there. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 06:33, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this up.

Some appear in the references, but here are some more:

http://www.stveronica.net/uploads/documents/general/082811final.pdf?PHPSESSID=1d286ddf3c03651f43cd9e0914699f1f

http://www.secondexodus.com/html/articles/fishingformen.htm

http://www.beginningcatholic.com/daily-catholic-prayer.html

http://ursulineneworleans.org/alumnae/spotlights/

http://www.christendom-awake.org/pages/ccollins/new-journey/chap-7newjourney.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_%28full%29

http://blog.adw.org/2010/02/the-means-are-not-the-end/

I am open to be proven wrong on some points but as far as I know this is Catholic doctrine. I will do more research myself.

Thanks again for bringing this up.

Marax (talk) 08:35, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

 * I also asked an expert on the topic and he seems to think it is not baseless. But I think the artice needs more solid WP:RS references for I found it "hard to believe" when I read it. And as I said on the talk page there, seems obscure. It is best you add references since you started the page, but please add WP:RS sources because secondexodus, beginningcatholic, christendom-awake, etc. are all unacceptable as Wikipedia references. And of course blogs are an absolute no-no. The term may be barely notable, but as I said on the talk page for the article, it does not appear in any of the well known books on Catholic teachings, so more references to clarify where "the text came from" are needed. I am not at all sure if the text can be supported by WP:RS sources. So please do fix that. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 14:56, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

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Hi, I'm TonyBallioni. Marax, thanks for creating Mariano Fazio!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. If you could add more independent reliable sources to the article it would be helpful. As a living person who is a member of a controversial organization, having reliable sources is very important.

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Re:Thanks and need for sources
Hello User:Marax and thank you for your message on my talk page. This is a self-published and non-academic source that does not meet WP:RS. In addition, it is inaccurate with respect to the belief of the Reformed/Presbyterian Churches, which do indeed teach a pneumatic presence of Christ in the Eucharist. I have supplanted it with a scholarly source, although I appreciate that you have changed "the majority" to "a number". In addition, I also made some corrections with respect to your edits concerning apostolic succession. Historic Protestant Churches do not contest the validity of the orders of Roman Catholic clergy. However, the converse is true--the Catholic Church does not recognize the holy orders and apostolic succession that many Protestant Churches teach they possess. I added reliable sources to buttress these statements. I should note that much of the information that you have added to the article seems to be a criticism of fundamentalist Christianity, rather than historic Protestantism. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 21:30, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * An article from the National Catholic Register provides some clarity with respect to the claim of 33,000 Protestant denominations. I was thinking of revising the article in light of its findings although I thought it might be better to let you do so. Thanks, AnupamTalk 05:30, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Re:Eucharist ordering
I appreciate your message on my talk page. I have reversed the order of the paragraphs per your request though I have retained the original wording of both of them to comply with WP:NPOV. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 15:30, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Re:Methodist faith and works
Dear User:Marax, Methodist usage of "justification by faith" does not mean the same thing as it does in a Lutheran & Reformed context. We must look at secondary sources that delineate John Wesley's writings. The Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, published by Baker Academic, explains this difference:

It is for this reason that Bishop Scott J. Jones in United Methodist Doctrine writes that "for the vast majority of human beings good works are necessary for continuance in faith because those persons have both the time and opportunity for them." In comparing the Reformed tradition to the Methodist faith, the theologian Jeff Robinson writes: "Reformed Arminianism’s understanding of apostasy veers from the Wesleyan notion that individuals may repeatedly fall from grace by committing individual sins and may be repeatedly restored to a state of grace through penitence." I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 17:06, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your message User:Marax. Feel free to summarize the quote according to the revision you suggested on my talk page. I hope this helps. Pax Christi, AnupamTalk 15:54, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

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Requesting inputs
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Seeking your valuable inputs @ Talk:Cognitive relativism since previously you seem to have edited the article Relativism

Thanks and warm regards

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