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WikiProject Columbus Blue Jackets
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Minn
RE: University of Minnesota figures, I got all the numbers and rankings from the Nov 14, 2005 edition of the Columbus Dispatch. Front page. Maybe I should have cited my source, but data from the previous years hasn't been cited, either. Thanks for fact-checking me -- Wild Goose 22:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 * If you can find accurate numbers that do not include non-degree students, by all means, make the appropriate edits. And yeah, I've spent most of my life here in Bustown. Go Clippers! Wild Goose 13:59, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Borking
Thanks for the heads up r.e. Bork - I added some suggestions why I feel additional explanatory text is required in the comments page, but I have not yet reverted, pending feedback from yourself and other users. The crux of my argument is that the article already contains three competing definitions of the verb, and this can only be resolved by arbitrarily selecting one and removing the others (which is unencyclopaedic) or offering a discussion of alternative uses of the verb which acknowledges and resolves the tension between the currently-offered meanings. Simon Dodd 17:14, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Hampshire College
Please see my comments at Talk:Hampshire College. RadicalSubversiv E 20:40, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Re: UC
I didn't, if you look at the version I reverted you'll see that while it was in the source code it did not appear in the article, because "sports teams" isn't a valid section in the template. Joe D (t) 04:19, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

John Lott
Check the page history for John Lott and you'll see why I think the change I reverted was done by a sockpuppet - there's an unending stream of anonymous or "single edit" users trying to remove information from the article. The talk page has the background. -- Danny Yee 05:29, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

AFD: Budgetax
You going to finish off the Deletion Process for Budgetax?

Not to worry, I finished it myself. Please note you need to follow the above guidelines including creating the talk page and the log entry or the AfD won't complete --Swamp Ig 08:25, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Hampshire College
The college's logo is orange and blue, so that could be what that's about (but I notice someone's just removed it). There's an argument for the frog as an unofficial mascot, but that's a little marginal. The basic issue is that the school doesn't really have any interscholastic sports (save Ultimate Frisbee, which is known as The Red Scare), hence no occasion for the usual trappings surrounding that. RadicalSubversiv E 03:16, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Categories
I removed the categories, because I created a new category, Category:Hampshire College, and placed the ones I removed there. evrik 15:32, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

List of Ohio State University people and friends
It shouldn't remain as a blank page, is a redirect or deletion in mind for it? Alf melmac 21:35, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

John Lott comment
"Let's not, and say you're abusive" - The user has reverted 3 times in as many days. That does not fall outside of allowed behavior, no matter how difficult it may be. You have accused a number of people of sockpuppetry. Maybe you could tone it down a little? Rkevins82 19:23, 6 December 2005 (UTC) Puh-lease. That's the equivalent of a ten year old holding his hand two inches from your face saying "I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you. I can hold my hand here. I'm not touching you. It's OK if I do this. I'm not touching you". The mysterious Lott Squad with their identical lock-step mass revisions and identical refusals to discuss anything point by point and identical vague references to "previous discussions" are abusive and destructive and dedicated to establishing their deviant view of reality without compromise, and their ability to stay within the precise letter of the law in no way converts their efforts into anything positive for Wikipedia, nor does it convert their goal into anything more than obfuscation of Lott's history into a whitewash, nor does it turn them into contributing members of society who have earned our respect rather than disrespect. And I say this as a person who had in the long ago before the infestation of these pests been arguing for the article to explicitly describe Lott and his "More Guns Less Crime" work as "groundbreaking". Gzuckier 19:44, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Pfzzt... snzzz.... (smell and sound of frying circuits)... SNAPKAPOW! (thud). Gzuckier 21:28, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm feeling much better now, Dave...... (gauzy strings in background) Gzuckier 21:38, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, just trying to follow your lead and lighten the mood. Take my word for it, I was funny in person. Gzuckier 03:50, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Election Ishies
Hi there - I'll browse the discussion page and see if there's anything I can chime in on. I'm an editor of the article, but certainly wouldn't ever claim any ownership. And thanks for any and all typographic assistance, user page or otherwise! :) -- User:RyanFreisling @ 19:56, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi again - I looked for your name on the discussion page of the main article, but saw no comments by you - can you point me to some of the issues you've raised without response? Thanks. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 20:34, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: Mercer, Franklin and Auglaize Counties - I've got no response nor disagreement with your observations, nor answers, as you haven't really asked any questions there. Re: the map, I can't answer that one, 'cause I didn't place the map there. Sorry I can't be of more help, but I'll see if I can come up with something. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 21:03, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Public Ivies
(Your comment) The change you made to photographs does not appear to have improved things at all. Rkevins82 02:08, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

 * When I first looked at the page, all the section edit links were jumbled at the bottom, under the "see also" section. I thought it was a problem with the pictures, so I rearranged them, and the problem went away.  My browser might have freaked out or something (Firefox)...either way, I'm not attached to the edit, revert it if you don't like it.  As of right now, the edit section links appear in the right places to me, and they didn't before.  --  stillnotelf   has a talk page  02:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Ah, they loaded fine on the right side in Firefox for me. Rkevins82 03:00, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I see on the Talk:Public Ivies page that you don't want the pictures there at all...I've also got no problem with deleting them wholesale if that's consensus :) -- stillnotelf   has a talk page  03:00, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Well, there isn't consensus ot cut them. I thought since each of the colleges is linked to (and presumably has the images) they served no purpose. Rkevins82 03:02, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Voltaire Network
It isn't appropriate to remove every link to an external site because you think that the site has conspiracy theories. If they have a significant point of view then they may be appropriate. -Willmcw 22:45, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Ohio cities
Hi. I felt that the list was getting a bit out of control, as many here seem to do, so I trimmed it down to the dozen largest cities in the state. I take it there are some you think I shouldn't have deleted. If so, we should probably continue this discussion at Talk:Ohio, so that others can have a chance to weigh in. - EurekaLott 19:05, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

2004 U.S. Election

 * I moved them to the 2004 vote suppression main article, where they are more in due proportion, and as you can see I left the less specious allegation there. Kevin Baastalk 20:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Columbia University - ????
In response to your message: "Why are you removing links?" - I am completely unaware of what you are talking about. I checked over my contributions page, and don't see anything on it. I also don't even recall visiting Columbia University's page. I am extremely confused. The only university page I visited recently was Colgate University, and I didn't remove any links, I added links to newspapers while I was writing a small article on Priit Vesilind. I'll check again, but am really at a loss for what you mean (?) ExRat 05:53, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 * EDIT* - Also, I just looked at Colgate University's page and the only link I removed was a double link in the Journalist graduate section to ABC News - a link that I put there only moments before, then realized I had already linked ABC News in that section. ExRat 06:08, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Revision to Schlafly Biographical Information
I recently added biographical materials to and corrected a few factual errors in Wikipedia’s Phyllis Schlafly article. You deleted this information and restored the old version. What’s the thinking behind your changes?

Information on a person’s family background is certainly important in any biographical sketch. Both the Felsenthal and Critchlow biographies cited in the entry contain some information on Phyllis’ family. Rather than simply regurgitate the information from others, I undertook additional background research, principally using U.S. Census and city directory information. In my view, that’s the kind of value-added materials Wikipedia hopes to provide users.

My changes gave the following new information:

“Phyllis’ father, John Bruce Stewart, was a machinist and salesman of industrial equipment. John Bruce’s grandfather, a Presbyterian, came from Scotland to work in the coal mines of Pittston, Pennsylvania and his father, Andrew Francis, was a master mechanic with the Chesapeake & Ohio Railroad. John Bruce lost his salesman’s job in 1932 and couldn’t find permanent work until World War II. He was granted a patent in 1944 for a rotary engine.

Phyllis’ mother, Odile B. Dodge, was the daughter of a moderately successful attorney, Earnest C. Dodge. Odile attended college and, before her marriage, worked as a teacher at Hosmer Hall, a private school for girls in St. Louis. With her father’s business suffering during the Great Depression and her husband out of work, Odile worked as a librarian and a school teacher to keep both families afloat.

John Frederic Schalfly, Jr. came from a well-to-do St. Louis family. His grandfather, August, immigrated in 1854 from Switzerland as a child. Shortly after August’s arrival, his father died and the family resettled in Carlyle, Illinois. There the three brothers worked as clerks in a local grocery store. In 1876 August’s older brother married Catharine Hubert, the daughter of the county’s wealthiest family. Shortly thereafter, the three brothers founded the firm of Schlafly Bros., which dealt in groceries, Queensware, hardware, and agricultural implements. They later sold that business and began a banking business that was to make Augustus a millionaire.”

This new information and the information from the biographies contradict your assertion that Phyllis came from “a relatively poor family.” Her family was solidly middle class, albeit struggling during the Great Depression.

Second, you reassert that Phyllis Schlafly worked at the “Lake City Army Ammunition Plant (LCAAP) in Independence, Missouri.” In fact, as I wrote, she worked at the “St. Louis Ordnance Plant, run by the United States Cartridge Company, a subsidiary of the Olin Chemical Corporation.” This was the greatest small arms plant in U.S. military history. At its peak production period in 1943 the plant had 34,338 employees on its payroll. Where did you get the LCAAP information?

JMartens

response
Hi. Thanks for responding. I left you a note on my user talk page.

JMartens 15:03, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Ohio State template
Sure, no problem (though you are asking someone who attended OSU's greatest rival). However, before such a template is started, could you give me a list of articles that could serve as a startup for such a template (as well as categories these articles fall under)? I am using the UM template as an example. PentawingTalk 20:50, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Nancy Zimpher
Yes, in fact the user I reverted removed everything from the page (i.e., the categories and the external link). By the time I realized I added in the vandalism, the other user removed the nonsense. Thanks for the heads up though. Pepsidrinka 06:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Kamil Idris
Kamil Idris is current Director General of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). He is a distinguished alumnus of Ohio University. Please be careful when reverting. Thank you. --Edcolins 07:13, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

 * It's alright. It does happen to me as well... --Edcolins 20:47, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Reference for Ohio State Oval
I noticed that you're working on an expansion of the Campus section of the Ohio State article with a paragraph detailing The Oval. I don't know if you've come across this, but here's a great reference on the Oval in Ohio State's early planning: --Sam Harmon 19:03, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Notes v References (Moritz College of Law)
You cited WP:Footnotes as saying that the section at the bottom of a page with the endnotes and references should be entitled "Notes." indicates that the section should be named "Notes and references." I don't recall seeing that section label used in an article but I know there is very inconsistent usage of the specific name of the section in which references are displayed thoughout Wikipedia. And it seems that the policies are inconsistent in this area, too. Sigh...

No big deal on the Moritz College of Law article. I'll leave it alone as I'm just happy to see the references there whether they're called Notes, References, or even something else. The label isn't too important. Thanks for adding the references! --ElKevbo 06:09, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Michigan Stadium
Thanks for the heads up, though that passage was added by an anon in the UM article. I simply moved it to the Michigan Stadium article as I didn't want to be bothered by it with regards to the UM article.

By the way, you asked about my assisting in an OSU template. Did you see my response to that inquiry? PentawingTalk 02:05, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I got the chance to look at the template and do some minor corrections. However, if you want to see a template that includes scarlet or red, see the one for Cornell University. Personally, I think that template's color formatting works. PentawingTalk 04:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Alumni
I found the recent additions through the business school's list of alumni awards and the bios of the dean's advisory council. The political science department had some alumni awards also. The quarterly newsletter from the history department also lists where a lot of the their doctoral graduates are. Other alumni I found via wikipedia links or just plain googling Ohio State--Sam Harmon 20:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Bill Davis Stadium
Nice work on updating my article I started on Bill Davis Stadium. Thanks! Go Bucks! OSU80 05:41, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Glad to help! I was working on an OSU baseball sub-article.  I'm trying to make articles of some other OSU related buildings. Rkevins82 22:06, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Bill Krause
I found this on Bill Krause. He died in 1986, but Ian McKellen is playing him in The Band Played On. I guess I'd classify him as a "weak keep." What are your thougts? BTW, thanks for the calming note concerning the recent spate of vandalism and Miami of Ohio nonsense. Sorry that I haven't done much on the to-do list lately but have been swamped with work. Cheers, --Sam Harmon 18:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

 * OK, I'm going to reinstate him, but in the "others" section. I think he's more similar to Faye Wattleton than to elected politicos. --Sam Harmon 18:53, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Spartan Stadium
Is there a reason why you blanked the "memorable games" section? Furthermore the image tag for UMvsMac was changed to historical photograph. Images from MSU's archive are allowed to be published online so long as they are properly sourced.
 * I was a student at Michigan State just last year and while creating another page with old pictures (some 100 of them) I actually went down to the archives office in Conrad Hall and was told by the staff that all pictures available to the public may be reproduced (as long as not for commercial gain) so long as I cite that the picture came from the archives. So as far as the picture it's certainly allowed to be used but finding the correct wikipedia tag for it is the problem. I put self created because I scanned it, but putting "historical photo" would be just as correct. Furthermore in a few years it will fall under the "author died 100 years ago" tag. So there are multiple choices, no one is absoulutely correct, but all convey the message that the picture is legit. AStudent 17:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Jerry Lucas
RV - Warm thanks for getting back to me with info responding to my query about Jerry Lucas and intelligence. I have fond memories about JL as a player and recall his first effort at writing a memory book (I see the list has expanded since then). I also recall stories about his enthusiasm for magic tricks, including one in which the young Jerry, excited at learning a new trick, ran to his mother shouting out, 'pick a card', ignoring the fact that she was locked in the bathroom at the time.

JL certainly has an active mind, a rare talent at memorisation, and a keen wish to communicate his methods. So I suppose you are justified at claiming he has an unusual intelligence. What's more, the combination 'basketball and intelligence' is unusal enough to merit mention, imho.

Btw I really hadn't wanted to challenge the claim (that should be clear). I simply feel that the claim requires substantiation. It is also only fair that the person making the claim in the article take responsibility for research.

peace, --Philopedia 23:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

MPA / MPP and similar degrees
I have seen some discussion on these pages. But the fact is that these pages do not provide any substnatial information and need development. Your attitude and fast deleting of new additions do not enable anybody to contribute, discusss and develop these pages. I am just wandering what you suggest in this regard. HOw we can make sure that the web pages are added, developed, expanded and made a useful source of information? Your contribution is important and I think as an administrator you should facilitate discussion, not halt it. You can put individual message to me about this. SO many people need information about these degrees and have so little information. And your attitude has not been helpful so far. --Rembranth 15:56, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

 * First off: I am not an administrator. I have never claimed to be, nor wish to be.  Second: your are encouraged to be bold when you edit pages, as am I.  Additions that I see as without merit I delete.  If there is some value in them, I generally try to improve them.  The sections you are referring to were boosterish, not necessarilly correct, and of questionable value.  I am willing to keep working on these article in any was that I can, as I encourage you to do.  It also appears that Roman123 and you are the same person.  Do you have a reason for doing this? Rkevins82 19:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Our Vandal
I've already humored him and posted external links for all of the Nobel and Pulitzer winners on the talk page, and he's still vandalized the page twice since. This guy is beyond redemption and IMO is somewhat disturbed emotionally. The fact is that no other alumni page verifies every single entry, nor should we have to. I might add this guy has no apparent problem with Nobel sections on other university alumni pages. If this guy has a question about someone, he can bring it up for discussion on the talk page. Nobody should have to waste time jumping through hoops to satisfy the needs of a known and repeated vandal. Besides, it's not the validity or the verifiability of these people that's driving this guy. It's their very existence--and the lack of similar people at you know where--that is motivating him, and as such no amount of pandering is going to satisfy him.--Sam Harmon 15:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

 * It will be minimal (as you've done with Pulitzer, Nobel). Rkevins82 15:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

 * No problem. I would suggest posting the verifications on the talk page for a couple of reasons: not cluttering up the main article and not setting a precedent.  My guess is that if he expands his focus it will only be to the more prominent/prestigious entries.  If you remember, he once vandalized the academia section by removing only the entries from prestigious universities while leaving the others in place.  Any guesses as to his underlying motivation?  BTW, all of the people that I found were done through various web searches.  If you have any questions on specific people, let me know, and I'll be happy to help.--Sam Harmon 16:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

 * As to motivations, one can only speculate. I am surprised that the editor went to the length of registering as a user and writing some text on his user page. Only time will tell what he intends. When I make the references for the talk page, I will put them in ref format, so we can transfer them if we want at a later date. Rkevins82 17:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Ha, told you he had a screw loose. Have you checked out today's tantrum, which even includes an appeal to the administrators for assistance.--Sam Harmon 03:43, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I really think it's time to request the administrators to lock down the alumni page. At the very least, it would prevent him from using an anonymous dial up connection to avoid accountability. Do you know how to initiate such a request? --Sam Harmon 19:48, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Just a thought
Hey man, User:Sam Harmon and I were having a conversation about this template you created. What do you think about making the letters inside the template bold so they're easier to read. I was just compairing the Ohio State template to the M*chigan one. Their's (and I say that as if they are the enemy) is lighter and more visible. Agreed? Go Bucks! Stubbleboy 19:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I just took another look at it and its looking better already. Nice work.  Stubbleboy 22:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Hineygate
May be a long shot. Encyclopedic? I actually googled it and all I get is a bunch of dead links. I'm sure if I created the article it would probably get deleted...any thoughts? Stubbleboy 19:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

O'Rourke
Thanks, I Googled it and couldn't find anything, so I thought it was just someone's assumption. :) Mad Jack 16:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Ohio State Nobels
There is a fourth who taught at Ohio State before winning the prize. I came across him in doing some research for the alumni page.--Sam Harmon 20:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

 * OK, here he is. I can't seem to edit that table without screwing it up.  --Sam Harmon 20:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism?
I was offended by your claim of Vandalism. Since 2001, the Republican Party has moved closer and closer to Fascism every day. Actually reading the article will confirm this.

Hello
Hello I'm Aeon the Deputy Coordinator for the AMA, we currently have an Advocate request in for an Anon User. This users page was tagged by you has a possible sockpuppet. I have the request on hold so an Advocate wont try to pick it up until I can get clear information on whether this user is a sockpuppet. Can you send me all the information you have on this user. Also even more interresting is the fact that he filed for the alleged master account. Thanks Æon  Insanity Now! EA!  19:57, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

User:68.250.184.204 is what you tagged.

I just need additional Information that all. Æon Insanity Now! EA!  19:57, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. I will make a note on the case. Thanks for you time. Æon Insanity Now! EA!  20:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Schlesinger's birthplace
Reference added. Andrew Levine 03:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Image:Tedginn.jpg
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Ohio State Fight Song
thanks for revising the rest of the lyrics. Some Michigan fans will never give up.

GO BUCKS --MorrisS 19:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Rutgers/Ivy source
Filip Bondy got back to me about his source for the statement that Rutgers declined Ivy membership. He got his information from Wikipedia. Thought you'd like to know.... JDoorj a m    Talk 05:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm in your boat: I find the topic interesting but have nothing personal at stake in whether Rutgers declined membership to the Ivy League. And now I'm intrigued about this dilemma I'd never considered, that reporters would start using Wikipedia as a source without mentioning it, and that we now have to ask our sources about their sources because it might be us.  Dizzying.  Cheers, JDoorj a m     Talk 06:27, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Big Ten Conference football category
All of the Big Ten team categories plus three articles are now under the Big Ten Conference football category, which is the more appropriate title. Since about 95% of the articles listed under Big Ten Football already fell under one or more of the team categories, listing them in this category became redundant. Throw the book at me if need be.Football79 06:48, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Ohio State University Move
I already moved the entire talk page from the non-definite article page to the current page, and placed a note on the old page not to add any more discusions there. Just as a friendly reminder (regarding the ham-handed comment), please refrain from name calling when discussing the subject. There is no reason you can't continute to contribute to the page with a different title, the subject is still the same, and I hope you still do. Thanks.--Analogue Kid 18:07, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Ohio State University move
I understand that you simply responded to Analogue Kid's request for the move, but the issue was not nearly resolved and the failure to get discussion in the week between Christmas and New Years is unsurprising. The fact that it had been discussed several times before and there was no consensus would lead me to think it should stay. What do I do to open a discussion to return it to its long-time name? Rkevins82 18:06, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Rkevins. To reopen discussion just simply start a new section on the talk page and start discussing.  If there are others who agree with you that the page should not have been moved, I will move it back to it's established name. — Mets501 (talk) 18:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

NCAA Division I-A national football championship
Rkevins82: You are probably right - the text in the description box and in the rest of that section of the article is not completely clear and you could arguably justify Wisconsin being on the list. I think this is just another example of the shortcomings of the way that the article is structured and written. Unfortunately, there are no easy solutions. I am actually working on an idea that may "fix" this problem and I am relunctant to change any text until I've thought completely through the issues. Whatever I propose will be posted on WP:CFB, where there is already a lengthy debate on national titles. If you happen to go read that, what I am working on now is another proposal that differs from the ones aleady there. In any event, if you decide to repost Wisconsin, even though I still disagree with you, I will not revert it for the same reason I have in the past and will leave it until there is some other more fundamental change to the page.--Tlmclain | Talk 05:38, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Rkevins82: You had indicated an interest in reviewing the proposal I have been working on.  It is now on WP:CFB at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football.  Your input would be appreciated.--Tlmclain  | Talk 22:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Subcategory
I see what you mean, my apologies for causing you extra the extra work. FeloniousMonk 17:20, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

apology
Kevin,

I apologize for going off on you. This is a very touchy subject..and you do have the same name as one of our family members...so I assumed it was him. Please accept my apology. HRM

Csuri family dispute
I am happy to see that two parties in the Csuri family dispute have reconciled. From your comments on the other party's user page, I believe that you actually intervened in the dispute due to a message that I posted on the Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard. I am actually a third party, a recently new editor, that was unsure of how to handle a the previous dispute of whether the unsourced family relationships should be part of the encyclopedic entry for Csuri. I am sorry that there was a misunderstanding when you intervened to correct the problem. The party that I'm refering to (who wishes to be anonymous at this point), I believe was not responsible for posting the family information in the first place, but I believe was part of a revert war to remove the information anonymously, and had previously not stated reasons for the removal. I hope that this concludes the dispute. Please feel free to comment on my user page with any thoughts on this issue, or how I might be able to intervene in a better manner next time. - cgilbert(talk|contribs) 06:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

The Ongoing Troy Smith Height Controversy
On the discussion page, as you are already aware, there is an ongoing debate about how to list him. I'm sticking to my guns on the issue, for all the reasons that I mentioned in the most recent of my posts there. But, if there is one reason that should trump the rest, it is this issue: official media guides are what every other source that I can find use. I'm not 100% sure if you and I are in agreement on the matter, but I would ask that you please keep an eye on the article and make sure that it remains as it has been (6'1, 215) at least until he is drafted, and then let whomever Smith plays for list his measurements as whatever they see fit. The funny part about this whole stupid issue (yes, of course I realize it is petty!) is that no one would even bother if they weren't some rival team's fans hating on the guy. There are a whole lot of players whose heights and weights are listed as what could be deemed as inaccurate. Anyways, thanks. Ryecatcher773 17:00, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about the reversion
Hey. Just wanted to apologize for reverting your link fix on Lou Groza. I was reverting several articles all at once, and didn't notice that the changes I was reverting weren't the last ones made to that page. --Onorem 18:49, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Big Ten newsletter, February 2007
Hello all Big Ten Wikipedians, here's the manual newsletter (becuase I suck with templates :P) on February. As it says on the Wikiproject, this month's main article is the Big Ten Conference, primarily because that article needs so much help right now. Everything seems to be going well so far. I'd be helping more but I had other things I was doing. Glad to see a lot of members joining though. I'm thinking of starting an assessment division of our own, but I'm not sure yet. Give me your opinions on if we should start tagging people as well btw. If you guys wish to start tagging college presidents of them, that would be a good start. The project is still partially in development, so any advice helps. Go Bucks! (and spartans, badgers, wolverines, illini, etc.)-- Wizardman 01:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

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As I am a new and rather inexperienced Wikipedian, I am asking for your advice on how to deal with Skopp. You seemed to be a cooler head in the discussion, so how do you feel he should be dealt with? His "contributions" to the Drudge discussion page are far past the "line" of personal attacks. His edits clearly violate WP:NPOV. He seems to be a rogue editor of sorts. What is the best course of action, in your opinion?K. Scott Bailey 06:05, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It seems that the argument is escalating. As such, I have chosen to weigh in against Skopp.  He's done nothing but personally attack anyone who dared question his edits.  Don't you think something should be done? At what point is laissez faire no longer an option?K. Scott Bailey 17:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I was hoping you would take a more proactive role, but keeping a watchful eye on the situation is better than nothing, I guess. Thanks. K. Scott Bailey 18:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Hopefully it's a fair enough edit to bring THAT saga to an end.K. Scott Bailey 16:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Huey Newton
Let's see, a big fan of Phyllis Schlafly, Matt Drudge, Richard Nixon, Robert Taft, et al., and you have an obsession with associating a far-left black activist with crack cocaine. Gee, could there be a political agenda here? Your racism is not appreciated. SmashTheState 05:02, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome to the Wikipedia
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Students' Associations
I really appreciate the work you are doing here. If you are going to update the csa template, please ensure: 1. The article exists first (we don't want red links), 2. Don't misspell the names of the organizations that are already listed. Thanks. --Spinboy 01:46, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * No harm done, glad to see you here, welcome. --Spinboy 16:31, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

hey there
Saw your comments on Halifax page... can you peer edit Music of Nova Scotia, Music of the Maritimes, and Buck 65? I have done a big bunch o work there to try and make those pages, er, not total bullsh*t which the NS music page especially really really was.

Thanks... WayeMason 15:49, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

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Message to Hauti from 24.42.238.41
I guess the only thing I fail to understand is: why would you want to deprecate your country? Your from Eastern Canada, so is there any need to put that term there anyway?

As well, I think I am giving you a good reason to delete it. The term is actually a stereotype and thus, would go under the term List of stereotypes.

Look, this argument is getting nowhere. It is pointless and it is starting to irk me. There is already a term hoser listed with a full definition for it. I don't think we need another definition on some other page.

I also forgot to add, you know very well where my POV is regarding this issue. Regurgitating it would be unnecessary.

Thanks for explaining
Hey Haunti, thanks for clearing that up for me, Mongo is so busy at the moment...Being new to wikipedia, some of the rules and policies are not quite clear. Thanks. Banes 16:07, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

new Halifax article
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I am working up a new Halifax city page to place on the Halifax, Nova Scotia page, when I move the current Halifax page to the HRM page... help, edits, and ideas appreciated. thanks!!! WayeMason 20:11, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

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LGBT rights in Estonia

Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) rights in Estonia have advanced significantly over the course of the last few decades, especially since the turn of the 21st century. Among the countries which after World War II were controlled by the former Soviet Union, independent Estonia is now considered to be one of the most liberal when it comes to LGBT rights. There is a notable age gap, as younger people tend to be more tolerant and liberal, while older people tend to be more socially conservative.

Both male and female forms of same-sex sexual activity are legal in Estonia, with the age of consent having been equalized in 2002. Transgender people have been allowed to change their legal gender since 1992. Discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is prohibited in employment, discrimination on the basis of gender identity is implicitly prohibited by law in all areas. A LGBT+ Community Support Group was formed in the Riigikogu in May 2023, with openly gay Social Democrat Eduard Odinets as its chairman.

Since 1 January 2016, same-sex couples may register their relationship as a cohabitation agreement, which gives them the same legal protections available to opposite-sex couples. A marriage equality bill was passed on 20 June 2023, which made same-sex couples able to marry and jointly adopt. The law took effect on 1 January 2024. A lesbian couple were the first ones to be officially married the following day. Estonia is the first formerly Soviet-occupied state as well as the only Baltic country to have legalized same-sex marriage.

According to ILGA-Europe's 2024 Rainbow Europe Index, Estonia ranks 22nd among 49 countries in Europe on LGBT rights legislation. This is lower than the neighbouring countries of Finland or Sweden, but higher than the two neighbouring Baltic states of Latvia and Lithuania, and significantly higher than Russia. A 2023 opinion survey found that 75% of the Estonian population supported an anti-discrimination law covering LGBT people, 53% supported same-sex marriage, 71% supported civil partnerships for same-sex couples, and 61% believed that someone who was born a man could identify as a woman (and vice versa).

Laws regarding same-sex sexual activity
Estonia was relatively liberal and open during the first period of independence from the 1920s to the 1930s. Same-sex sexual activity between consenting males, which until 1917 had been illegal in the former Russian Empire, was formally legalised in the newly independent Republic of Estonia when the country's parliament approved changes in the criminal code in 1929. It came into force in 1935. Before the adoption of the new criminal law, the criminal and correctional penal code of Imperial Russia was observed.

In 1940, Estonia was occupied and annexed by the Soviet Union, then by Nazi Germany in 1941, and ultimately re-occupied in 1944 by the Soviets. In Soviet-occupied Estonia, same-sex sexual activity between males was a criminal offense under paragraph 118 of the penal code. At least 67 court cases and 155 men convicted under the law are known. After Estonia restored its independence on 20 August 1991, it was made legal again on 1 June 1992. This only removed the punishment for consensual same-sex sexual activity, with the paragraph itself being removed in 2001, with the adoption of a new penal code. This makes Estonia one of the few countries to have legalised same-sex sexual activity twice.

In 2002, the age of consent was set at 14 years and equalized for both homosexual and heterosexual sex. In 2022, the age of consent was raised to 16 years for all persons.

Cohabitation agreements
In March 2014, a parliamentary group began to work on a draft bill to regulate the legal status of cohabiting couples. The draft bill was submitted to the Parliament (Riigikogu) on 17 April 2014. On 22 May, the bill was backed by the Government. On 19 June 2014, the Parliament rejected a motion to kill the bill, in a 32–45 vote. The bill's second reading took place on 8 October where a motion to hold a referendum on the issue was defeated in a 35–42 vote and another motion to kill the bill was defeated in a 41–33 vote. The bill's final vote took place on 9 October, where it was passed 40–38. It was signed into law by President Toomas Hendrik Ilves that same day, becoming the Registered Partnership Act, and took effect on 1 January 2016. The campaign against the law was led by the Christian conservative foundation For Family and Tradition (SA Perekonna ja Traditsiooni Kaitseks).

However, some implementing acts required for the law to enter into force were not passed at the time. On 26 November 2015, Parliament approved the first implementing acts on a vote of 42–41 with several abstentions. In February 2017, the Tallinn Administrative Court ordered the Estonian Government to pay monetary damages for failing to adopt the implementing acts. In September 2017, President Kersti Kaljulaid criticised the Parliament for failing to accept the implementing acts.

In April 2023, the incoming government pledged to adopt the implementing provisions for the Registered Partnership Act. With the changes to the Family Law Act on 20 June 2023, the implementing provisions for the Act were also fully implemented.

Same-sex marriages performed abroad or after sex reassignment
A same-sex marriage was recognised by a court in December 2016. The couple, two men who had originally married in Sweden but now live in Estonia, had their marriage officially registered in late January 2017. Initially, a court in Harju County refused to register their marriage, but the couple appealed the decision. In December, the Tallinn Circuit Court ruled that the marriage must be entered into the Estonian population register.

In December 2021, the Ministry of the Interior confirmed that transgender people can change their legal sex while remaining married. Changes made to the Family Law Act in July 2014 permitted them to petition the court to annul such a marriage, but the Ministry had no obligation to do so. If the spouses met the preconditions for entering into a marriage at the time of marriage, then it was not automatically an invalid marriage. By 2021, there were already several couples in Estonia whose marriage had turned into a same-sex marriage as a result of the sex reassignment of one spouse. A spokesman for the Ministry said, "during the last five or six years, significant changes have taken place in society, as a result of which it can no longer be said that the marriage of a same-sex couple is contrary to Estonian public order."

Marriage equality
On 8 April 2023, the incoming government of the Reform Party, Estonia 200 and the Social Democratic Party, formed following the March 2023 election, published a coalition agreement, including a promise to legalize same-sex marriage by changing the Family Law Act (Estonian: Perekonnaseadus) to define marriage as between two adults.

The government approved a draft same-sex marriage bill in May 2023 and sent it to the Riigikogu on May 15. It was approved at first reading on May 22, with a motion to kill the bill failing 27–53 and the bill moving on to the second reading. It passed the second reading 55–34 on 20 June, before being signed into law by president Alar Karis on 27 June. The bill took effect on 1 January 2024. It allows for same-sex couples to marry and jointly adopt.

Marriage applications could be filed from the moment the bill took effect. A lesbian couple, Leore and Katarina, were the first ones to be officially married on 2 January, the first work day for the Tallinn Vital Statistics Department after the New Year. The couple had originally gotten married in Katarina's native Sweden, but were able to get their marriage recognized due to her also holding Estonian citizenship. Due to the one-month waiting period mandated by the state in order to process marriage applications, other couples must wait until the beginning of February.

In response, the Estonian Evangelical Lutheran Church (Eesti Evangeelne Luterlik Kirik) at first made a preliminary decision to stop registering any marriages, on a temporary basis. This decision was announced by archbishop Urmas Viilma, head of the EELK, in July 2023. Minister of Social Protection Signe Riisalo said that the EELK and other churches were free to make their own decision. The church may forgo the right to register marriages once and for all, according to Viilma. In 2022, only six percent of marriages were registered by clergy, with the vast majority being registered by a local government official. On 17 October 2023, the church council voted to have clergy keep registering opposite-sex marriages after the bill takes affect, but not same-sex ones.

Adoption and family law
Single gay, lesbian and bisexual people may petition to adopt. Same-sex couples are allowed to foster. Same-sex couples can adopt jointly since 2024.

Due to the Registered Partnership Act, couples are allowed to adopt stepchildren since 2016. In February 2017, the Tallinn Administrative Court allowed a lesbian woman to adopt her partner's children. There have been other cases of same-sex couples successfully adopting. Additionally, lesbian couples have access to IVF.

Sexual orientation and gender identity
As an obligation for acceptance into the European Union, Estonia transposed an EU directive into its own laws banning discrimination based on sexual orientation in employment from 1 May 2004. The Equal Treatment Act (Võrdse kohtlemise seadus), which entered into force on 1 January 2009, also prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in employment, but not in the provision of goods and services. Since 2006, the Penal Code (Karistusseadustik) has prohibited public incitement to hatred on the basis of sexual orientation.

According to the Gender Equality and Equal Treatment Commissioner, the prohibition of discrimination on the grounds of sex and/or gender provided by the Gender Equality Act (Soolise võrdõiguslikkuse seadus) since 1 May 2004 extends to transgender and non-binary individuals. According to the Act, direct discrimination based on sex (otsene sooline diskrimineerimine) also means less favourable treatment of a person in connection with other circumstances related to gender (muude soolise kuuluvusega seotud asjaoludega), as well as gender-based harassment and sexual harassment.

An employer has no right to demand that an employee match a gender stereotype, such as a female employee wearing make-up, clothes, or jewelry that are generally considered to be feminine. This also applies to the service sector. As such an employer cannot set barriers for a transgender employee in wearing clothes that match their gender identity. Thus a transgender woman may wear a dress in a work environment, and an employer cannot forbid them from doing so. If a person's identity documents or diploma do not match their appearance or gender identity, then they cannot be treated unfairly at a job interview because of this.

According to a series of interviews conducted with LGBT people in 2016, experiences in the workplace split mostly into two. On one hand, some have had no serious problems in their professional life. Their experiences have been more neutral or positive, such as a trans woman being backed by her superior when coming out. On the other hand, some emphasize their negative experiences or problems. Some feel the need to stay in the closet, because they fear a strong reaction from their colleague(s) or employer. Some report a situation at work where the topic is mutually avoided. Even in cases where LGBT people report having no troubles and an overall positive environment at work, they still recount having to navigate situations relating to their identity.

Hate speech
In June 2023, the government of Estonia approved a draft bill to explicitly ban hate speech based on both sexual orientation and gender identity. In the draft, the Ministry of Justice has taken into consideration some of the substantive feedback received during the coordination round. The proposed legislation will be sent to the Riigikogu. The bill passed first reading in September 2023, with the second reading planned for early 2024.

According to the Estonian Human Rights Centre, incitement to hatred is already prohibited by paragraph 151 of the Penal Code, but using it in court is extraordinarily difficult due to the current wording. Only such activity which results in danger to the life, health or property of a person can be punished.

History
A. Oinatski is said to be the first known openly transgender person in Estonia, during the interwar period. A journalist writing for the newspaper Postimees in 1929 is confused on the point whether Oinatski is rather a young man in a dress trying to avoid compulsory military service, or a strange woman with entirely feminine speech and expression. In the same article, Oinatski describes themselves as a woman. They appeared under various pseudonyms. Many newspaper articles were written about them in the period from 1929 to 1934, mostly due to their various run-ins with the law, due to petty theft and fraud. This resulted in many stints in prison. Later they proceeded to return to living as a man at the end of the decade, and married.

Gender reassignment was in essence already possible during the Soviet occupation, under ad-hoc regulation set out by the Ministry of Health of the USSR, after the adoption of the ICD-9 in 1980. This required a long stay in a psychiatric hospital, with no guarantee of success. Some applicants were simply sent back home after a period. Others were given the scientifically discredited diagnosis of sluggish schizophrenia, used by the Soviet state as a means of locking up dissenters. Very few were able to actually transition. At least two Estonian trans men are known to have done so in the late 1980s. Any surgical interventions were considered to be in bad taste by medical professionals, but were sometimes still performed. In the Estonian SSR specifically, regulation dating from 1970 concerning "hermaphrodites" may have been the legal basis for transgender people to correct their legal data.

On 6 April 1992, Kristel Regina became the first trans person in independent Estonia to legally correct her name and gender on her birth certificate. As a university student, she had previously requested and received information concerning transgender people from various university libraries in the West. She had then been meeting with doctors since 1990, who familiarised themselves with the research she had done. A medical expert committee was assembled to assess her case and allowed for gender reassignment. Changing legal data was viewed as a prerequisite to any gender-affirming surgery, as it would have otherwise been considered mutilation. Such surgery was then also carried out afterwards, although the doctor who did so was later reprimanded.

Her case received substantial coverage in the press. A tabloid newspaper said that she had been "born as a woman in the most unique way yet seen in Estonia", and congratulated her on finally receiving a feminine appearance to compliment her feminine being. Other articles provided a detailed background of her struggles. According to her, she first became aware of the possibility of gender reassignment after coming across an article in an East German magazine talking about April Ashley, in 1978. Other coverage was more lurid, prompting a columnist to chide the papers for sensationalising a person "suffering for nature's incomprehensible mistake," claiming that "a person being born a transsexual is in and of itself not anything sensational or especially unusual."

Current process
The process for gender reassignment was for the first time regulated by a decree of Minister of Social Affairs Tiiu Aro on 24 April 1997, on the Establishment of Mandatory Processes for Gender Reassignment (Soovahetuse kohustuslike protseduuride kehtestamine). Legal gender recognition is currently regulated by regulation concerning the Common Requirements for Medical Operations for Gender Reassignment (Soovahetuse arstlike toimingute ühtsed nõuded), in force since May 1999, and parts of the Vital Statistics Registration Act (Perekonnaseisutoimingute seadus) which entered into force in January 2014.

To begin the process of gender reassignment, a transgender person must submit an application to the Ministry of Social Affairs for the first appointment with the medical expert committee formed for this purpose. They will then receive a ministerial decree from the responsible Minister giving them permission to begin hormone replacement therapy. Since February 2022, undergoing such therapy is no longer mandatory, neither is genetic testing. Surgical intervention is permitted one year after the issue of this directive, but has not been required since April 1997. There is also no requirement for forced sterilization. Minors have access to puberty blockers.

Another application must be submitted to the Ministry for a second appointment with the committee in order for a person's legal data in the Population Register to be corrected. This generally takes place a year after the first appointment with the committee, not earlier. Changing one's legal name may be possible before this, under the Names Act (Nimeseadus). Afterwards, the decision of the committee together with a written application must be submitted to a county town local government (maakonnakeskuse kohalik omavalitsus). The restoration of the gender at birth can be applied for in the same manner. Other data and vital statistics entries of the person are not changed.

Recent developments
A new committee was assembled in July 2021 by Minister of Health and Labour Tanel Kiik to replace the previous one in place since March 2000. It had disbanded itself in 2020, creating a situation where no medical or legal procedures were in practice accessible for people wanting to transition. The new committee relies on both self-identification as well as a mental health diagnosis to make a judgement on whether a transition is appropriate. The stated goal of the committee is to help transgender people "function socially in accordance with their gender identity," with them experiencing a state of both mental and physical well-being.

In May 2023, Minister of Social Protection Signe Riisalo expressed an intent to amend the current process of legal gender recognition, saying that a person's right to change their legal data should be based on self-identification. This sentiment is also held by the chairman of the current medical expert committee, Dr. Kai Haldre. According to Minister of Health Riina Sikkut, the matter could be debated in the autumn at the earliest. According to Dr. Haldre and her colleagues, making the process less bureaucratic would free up resources for those who desire medical intervention. She states that non-binary people should be able to mark their gender correctly on identity documents, and countries that allow this have not seen any negative effects.

In the period between 1999 and 2021, a total of 186 people have begun the process of gender reassignment: 91 trans women, and 95 trans men. Since the medical expert committee reconvened in early 2022, it has seen around a hundred applicants.

Military service
Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people are allowed to serve openly in the military.

Some non-heterosexuals may reportedly be sent for additional medical consultation before being declared fit for military service. Same-sex attraction tendencies are "generally not an obstacle to military service," according to the head of the vocational department at the Defense Resources Agency (Kaitseressursside Amet), Merle Ulst. If a prospective conscript or volunteer has a mental or behavioral disorder diagnosis which is "connected to homosexuality," then this "may become an obstacle to military service."

Community organization
Although male homosexuality was illegal until the end of the Soviet occupation in 1991, already in the 1980s, Kastani bar was popular among gay people during the nighttime. There was also at least one cruising area in both Tallinn and Tartu, though outside of these two cities, the gay scene was invisible. The first gay bar in independent Estonia, Pika Kelder, was opened in April 1993, intended mainly for women. X-Baar is the oldest continuously operating LGBT bar and community space in both the Baltic states and Estonia, and perhaps the most beloved. It opened on 14 June 1998 as a gay bar, before being bought by its late owner, Sirje Atso. Most recently, a queer community bar, Hungr, was opened in April 2023, in Tallinn, aiming to provide a modern, inclusive, and safe space for LGBT people and their friends.

The first conference dedicated to sexual minorities took place in Tallinn in May 1990, leading to the founding of the Estonian Lesbian Union (Eesti Lesbiliit) on 13 October of the same year. One of the key organizers was Lilian Kotter, who had spoken at the conference. It was the first LGBT association in independent Estonia. It had a monthly newsletter for members, and in December 1992, the Lesbian Union also set up a helpline. While it also had the political ambition of trying to change the attitude of society towards sexual minorities, the main focus was on organizing the fledgling community through various events. These mainly catered to lesbian and bisexual women, transgender people were also accepted. The Lesbian Union was also the driving force behind opening the Pika Kelder bar.

These visible activities were a major factor in people having the courage to come out of the closet. The Estonian Lesbian Union was also a role model for the first association for transgender people in Estonia, Gendy. It was founded on 8 August 1993 and provided a support group for trans individuals. Both organizations were tightly knit, as it was possible to contact Gendy through the Union, with them also distributing information about their activities. Gendy activists also answered questions relating to trans issues through their helpline, once a month. Gendy did not organize any events of its own.

The first association specifically for gay men was the Estonian Gay Union (Eesti Gayliit), founded on 2 May 1992. The aim of the organization was to create opportunities for men to socialize between themselves, do HIV/AIDS prevention work, and perform outreach work on issues related to homosexuality. This was focused on spreading awareness and better educating the public about gay issues, dispelling negative stereotypes, as well as encouraging gay men to come out of the closet. The Gay Union also ran a helpline as well as community events, but did not open their own bar. AIDS prevention work included handing out free condoms as well as informational leaflets.

The Estonian LGBT Association (Eesti LGBT Ühing) is the main representative for LGBT citizens in the present day, having been founded in 2008 as the Estonian Gay Youth (Eesti Gay Noored). There also exists an organization specifically for trans and non-binary people, the Estonian Association for Transgender People (Eesti Transinimeste Ühing), having grown out of a podcast, founded in 2022.

Pride parades
Annual Pride parades had been organised in Tallinn since 2004. In an incident in 2007, some of the parade's participants were verbally and physically attacked by anti-gay protesters. After the 2007 violent anti-gay attacks, no Tallinn Pride parade took place until 2017. Some 1,800 people attended the event in 2017. The pride parade also received the backing of numerous foreign embassies, including the American, British, French, German, Latvian and Lithuanian embassies, among many others.

In June 2011, Estonia hosted Baltic Pride. Key speakers at the event included Riho Rahuoja, the Deputy Secretary General for Social Policy at the Ministry of Social Affairs; Christian Veske, the Chief Specialist in the Ministry's Gender Equality Department; Kari Käsper, Project Manager of the "Diversity Enriches" campaign from the Estonian Human Rights Centre; Hanna Kannelmäe from the Estonian Gay Youth NGO; U.S. Ambassador to Estonia Michael C. Polt; British Ambassador to Estonia Peter Carter and British photographer Clare B. Dimyon, who exhibited "Proud of our Identity" at Tallinn's Solaris Centre on 31 March. "Proud of our Identity" comprises photographs of and by lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people taken at various Pride events throughout Europe, including photographs of Estonian LGBT people.

Tallinn hosts Baltic Pride every three years, it most recently did so in 2023. 7000 people marched in the 2023 Baltic Pride parade. This included the speaker of the Riigikogu, Lauri Hussar; the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Margus Tsahkna; Minister of Health, Riina Sikkut; Minister of Education and Research, Kristina Kallas; the Gender Equality and Equal Treatment Commissioner, Christian Veske; and representatives of NATO and multiple foreign embassies.

Social attitudes
Discrimination and prejudice against LGBT persons remain a significant problem in several parts of Estonian society.

In June 2006, Dutch Ambassador to Estonia Hans Glaubitz requested he be transferred to the Dutch consulate in Canada after he had reportedly been suffering from repeated homophobic and racial verbal abuse being hurled by some locals in Tallinn against his partner, an Afro-Cuban dancer Raúl García Lao. A statement subsequently released by the Estonian authorities stated that they "regretted the incidents very much".

In February 2019, the LGBT association SevenBow, organizers of the Festheart LGBTI film festival, sued the Rakvere City Council for cutting their funding by 80%. The city's Cultural Affairs Committee initially endorsed the group's funding applications, but the City Council cut its funding to just a fifth of the applied sum. Lawyers argued that anti-gay views motivated the cutback. In May 2019, an administrative court ruled that the council's decision to provide less funding was unlawful. It ruled that the council had no justification to give a smaller grant to SevenBow. The court added that the council had also not raised an appropriate legal basis which would have allowed it to deviate from the decision drawn up by the Cultural Affairs Committee.

On 11 June 2023, during a small speaking event organized by an association of gay Christians at the X-Baar, a visiting Finnish pastor and others were violently assaulted by a 25-year-old Estonian-speaking Russian citizen in a homophobic hate crime. The man yelled about God's wrath against homosexuals in Russian, punching the pastor in the face and stabbing a woman sitting next to him with a knife. The suspect was arrested by police at the scene after he was wrestled down by bar staff and spectators, and charged with a serious breach of public order. The man is previously known to police, as he had been fined for appearing in a public place on Victory Day with prohibited insignia supporting Russia's invasion of Ukraine, for which he had been given a monetary fine. Minister of the Interior Lauri Läänemets confirmed that he can be deported from the country. He added that words have consequences when politicians or religious leaders "systematically belittle the rights and freedoms of a minority in their public speeches, sooner or later such thoughtless or, on the contrary, very well-thought-out opposing language can become a crime at the hands of some radicalized fanatics."

On 14 July 2023, a Russian-speaking man who murdered a Jamaican trans woman whom he had met in a Tallinn Old Town bar in 2022 was sentenced to 12 years in jail. The judge gave the defendant a harsh sentence due to the severity of the crime, as she had been stabbed more than 34 times whilst trying to flee. The defense had argued for a lesser sentence, claiming that the attack was provoked by the victim. This was contradicted by the victim having to ask the man's friend to tell him that she was transgender, as the defendant does not speak any English. She also asked the defendant's friend whether the defendant was comfortable with intercourse a second time. The victim had fled from her native country in 2009 due to negative attitudes towards transgender people. She had been working as an escort, and was always open about her transgender identity and conscious about her safety.

Public opinion
According to a survey conducted in 2000, 50% of surveyed men and 63% of women agreed with the statement "Homosexuality among adults is a private affair of the people concerned with which officials of the law should in no way interfere"; 29% of men and 25% of women found it hard to say what their position was.

A Eurobarometer survey published in December 2006 showed that 21% of Estonians surveyed supported same-sex marriage and 14% supported the right of same-sex couples to adopt (EU-wide average: 44% and 33%, respectively).

According to a Eurobarometer survey published in 2008, only 13 percent of Estonians professed to have homosexual friends or acquaintances, compared to a 34 percent average in the EU. However, Estonians ranked higher than the European average in willingness to grant equal opportunities to sexual minorities.

A poll conducted in June 2009 showed that 32% of Estonians believed that same-sex couples should have the same legal rights as opposite-sex couples. Support was 40% among young people, but only 6% among older people.

A poll conducted in September 2012 found that 34% of Estonians supported same-sex marriage and 46% supported registered partnerships (in contrast to 60% and 45% that shared the opposing stance respectively). The poll found an ethnic divide: while 51% of ethnic Estonians supported registered partnerships, only 21% of ethnic Russians were of the same view.

The same poll conducted in 2014 during the parliamentary debate on registered partnership revealed that the support dropped significantly with only 29% and 40% of respondents supporting same-sex marriage and registered partnership legislation respectively, and the level of opposition on both issues had increased to 64% and 54%.

The 2015 Eurobarometer survey showed that 44% of Estonians supported gay, lesbian and bisexual people having the same equal rights as heterosexuals, while 45% were opposed. 40% of Estonians believed there is nothing wrong with homosexual relationships and 49% disagreed, while 31% of Estonians supported same-sex marriage and 58% were against it.

A poll conducted between 28 March 2017 to 10 April 2017 found that, while support for same-sex registered partnership legislation was unchanged in three years (45% vs 46%), support for same-sex marriages had increased to 39% with 52% against (compared to 60% against in 2012 and 64% against in 2014). It also found that acceptance of homosexuality had increased from 34% in 2012 to 41% in 2017, with 52% against. At the same time, support for joint adoption rights remained unchanged with 66% opposing such legislation.

A public opinion survey conducted in 2019 showed that 49% of Estonians supported same-sex registered partnerships and 39% opposed them.

The 2019 Eurobarometer found that 41% of Estonians thought same-sex marriage should be allowed throughout Europe; 51% were against it.

A public opinion survey conducted between 1 April 2021 to 18 April 2021 found that 53% of the respondents consider same-sex attraction completely or somewhat acceptable, 42% did not. 64% of respondents believed that someone who was born a man could identify as a woman (and vice versa), while 20% disagreed. 47% considered transgender people to be completely or somewhat acceptable, while 39% did not. In addition, 64% of respondents support or somewhat support the Registered Partnership Act, and 47% support same-sex marriages, with 46% against.

A poll conducted in March 2023 by the Liberal Citizen Foundation (Sihtasutus Liberaalne Kodanik, SALK) found that 44.9% of respondents were in favour of same-sex marriage (24.6% "fully" and 20.3% "somewhat") and 43.4% were against (29.3% "fully" and 14.1% "somewhat"). 11.7% did not answer.

A poll conducted between 3 April 2023 and 12 April 2023 found that 56% of Estonians consider same-sex attraction completely or somewhat acceptable, 39% did not. 53% support same-sex marriage, with 39% opposed. 47% support adoption for married same-sex couples, with 44% opposed. 55% support a hate speech law, with 32% opposed. 71% support the Registered Partnership Act. 61% of respondents believed that someone who was born a man could identify as a woman (and vice versa), while 24% disagreed. 47% considered transgender people to be completely or somewhat acceptable, while 37% did not.

A public opinion survey conducted between 18 May 2023 and 22 May 2023 found that 55% of Estonians (62% of ethnic Estonians and 41% of other nationalities) think that marriage equality provides all people with the same rights and responsibilities, without lessening the rights of anyone else. 37% do not agree with such a statement.

The 2023 Eurobarometer found that 41% of Estonians thought same-sex marriage should be allowed throughout Europe, and 51% agreed that "there is nothing wrong in a sexual relationship between two persons of the same sex".

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