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City Square, Leeds

City Square is a paved area north of Leeds railway station at the junction of Park Row to the east and Wellington Street to the south. It is a triangular area where six roads meet: Infirmary Street and Park Row to the north, Boar Lane and Bishopsgate Street to the south-east, and Quebec Street and Wellington Street to the south-west. The only building with a direct frontage is the former General Post Office, on the north-west side.

History
Proposals were made in 1893 to transform the area in front of the station. The demolition of Leeds' Coloured Cloth Hall and Quebec House gave an open space in which a new General Post Office was constructed in 1896 with a public space in front. One proposal was to name the development after John Smeaton, the famous local engineer, but the council unanimously opted to call it City Square, as Leeds was being made a city that year. The initial plan had tramway waiting rooms, and public lavatories welcoming new visitors to Leeds. However, Colonel Thomas Walter Harding (Lord Mayor of Leeds between 1898 and 1899) was so dismayed that he commissioned William Bakewell to design a square more in the style of an Italian piazza, with statues and trees.

In the Second World War, during an air raid on Leeds, the Luftwaffe bombed City Square. It was at the time the site of a public air raid shelter, which did not withstand the bombing and was significantly damaged.

In 1997, traffic that went through the City Square, mainly buses and taxis, was diverted to the Leeds City Centre "Loop" traffic scheme. The City Square area was refurbished in 2003, which included closing off one side of the square to traffic, rearranging the statues and adding fountains and traditional street furniture to the square. The fountains were removed in 2013.

Statuary
All are in bronze and larger than life. There is a large equestrian statue, four statues of famous men, and a ring of female nudes, or nymphs, acting as lampholders. The statues were part of a celebration of Leeds changing status from a town to a city. All are at least Grade II listed buildings.

Black Prince
The large equestrian statue is of Edward, the Black Prince (1330–1376), and is a major work of Thomas Brock (1847–1922). Edward had no specific connection with Leeds, and the choice of subject therefore caused something of a stir. The statue is on a pedestal with relief panels depicting some of the prince's notable victories. It (along with most of the statues) was funded by Colonel Thomas Walter Harding. Brock took seven years to make it, and it had to be cast in Belgium because it was too big for any British foundry. It was carried by sea to Hull, then on a barge along the River Aire to Leeds. It was unveiled on 16 September 1903 to cheering crowds. It is Grade II* listed.

James Watt
Though again James Watt had no specific connection to Leeds, he was a famous engineer and typified the technological change which had made Leeds into a city. This was erected in 1903. It is by Henry Charles Fehr and the gift of Richard Wainwright.

John Harrison
John Harrison (1579–1656) was a local cloth merchant and benefactor of Leeds, having built a church and a grammar school. This was erected in 1903. It is also by H. C. Fehr and the gift of Councillor Richard Boston.

Dr Hook
Dr Walter Hook (1798–1875) was a vicar of Leeds and a major influence on both religion and education in the city. He was responsible for rebuilding the parish church (now Leeds Minster) and thirty schools. This was erected in 1902. It is by F. W. Pomeroy and the gift of Colonel Thomas Walter Harding.

Joseph Priestley
The famous chemist and theologian Joseph Priestley lived in Leeds from 1767 to 1773, and was the minister at Mill Hill Chapel, which is on the square. He used carbon dioxide from the local brewery to continue his experiments on gases. This was erected in 1903. It is by Alfred Drury and the gift of Colonel Thomas Walter Harding.

Eight Nymphs
The most controversial feature of the square was a ring of eight nude females holding lamps, which attracted critical letters to the Yorkshire Post when unveiled in 1899. They are by Alfred Drury, now celebrated as a pioneer of the New Sculpture. They are of two forms, one named as "Morn" holding a lamp in her right hand and clutching some flowers, and the other named as "Even" holding a lamp in her left hand, with her other hand to her head.

They were originally arranged on the points of the compass in a circle around the Black Prince. In 1956 they were removed from this arrangement and put in two rows of four. In the 1990s, it was planned to remove them altogether, as Victorian public art was considered by many to be worthless. However, this was resisted and they were placed in their present positions of a three-quarter circle.

General Post Office
The former Leeds General Post Office covers the northwest side of the square. It is a Grade II listed building, in classical style by architect Sir Henry Tanner. It is in Ashlar, with slate and lead roofs of four stories and two main entrances with columns on the square, with a central clock tower. There are other entrances to the sides on Quebec Street and Infirmary Street. The telephone booths outside the former post office are K6 design and also Grade II listed buildings.

It opened 18 May 1896. Two figures by William Silver Frith representing "Reading" and "Writing" are over one entrance, while "Reading" and "Philosophy" are over the other. Four figures above have been said to represent Time, Air, Light and Earth. Along with other smaller decorations are two owls on the front.

Surrounding buildings
The square is overlooked by the listed buildings Queens Hotel on the South and Mill Hill Chapel on the East, plus a modern skyscraper, No. 1 City Square (Norwich Union Building) completed 1998 by Abbey Hanson Rowe on the North. The sculpture "Legs walking" by Leeds-born Kenneth Armitage was erected outside Mill Hill Chapel in 2018. On the Southwest between Quebec Street and Wellington Street is the former Majestic Cinema and Ballroom (1921), a Grade II listed building in terracotta by the Leeds Fireclay Co. On the Southeast corner is the Park Plaza Hotel, a 2003 recladding of a 1965 office tower block called Exchange House, and the former Yorkshire Bank (1899, Grade II listed), now a bar, in granite with a distinctive copper dome.

White Rose Way
The Square is the official start point for the 104 mile long-distance walk The White Rose Way which finishes in Scarborough, North Yorkshire.

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User:SchuminWeb

It's hard to say goodbye to a community that I have been a part of for seven years. During my time as a contributor to Wikipedia, I have grown tremendously as a writer, and have added in many ways, large and small, to countless numbers of articles, and have participated in countless numbers of discussions. However, I have come to realize within the past year that I have reached both the limits of what I can accomplish within the Wikipedia community, and also the limits of my patience in interacting with other members of the Wikipedia community. Thus I feel that it is time for me to move on.

While I still believe in Wikipedia's mission to amass the sum of all human knowledge, I fear that the project may fail because the community will, over time, destroy itself due to what I perceive as constant infighting, the holding of long-term grudges by many users, and general rudeness and incivility on the part of many, which has an alienating effect on other users, both new and seasoned. As an administrator, I received more abuse than I would ever wish on anyone that is doing volunteer work, and this often extended beyond Wikipedia to my website, my Facebook, my Twitter, and my personal email, despite my best efforts to direct all Wikipedia-related inquiries back to Wikipedia. Because of this, I was never really able to escape from Wikipedia, even when using it for research, and it took a toll on me, turning what might otherwise have been an enjoyable activity into a chore, causing me to dread seeing the orange "You have new messages" bar come up, because it inevitably meant having to listen to more whining.

I soon found it increasingly difficult for me to justify to myself why I was still doing volunteer work for a project that I no longer found enjoyable. When I logged out of Wikipedia by choice and left it logged out, I soon came to realize that by not participating in Wikipedia, my stress levels went down, and I generally found myself to be much happier.

I believe that my best days are still ahead of me, but now it is time for me to forge my own path, endeavoring in new works and projects separate from those of the Wikipedia community. I wish all of you the best in your future endeavors, and perhaps our paths will cross again some day. SchuminWeb (Talk) 06:49, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

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Talk:Eurotra

AndyHolyer's recollections of the Eurotra project
I worked on Eurotra from 1986 to late 1988: my memories of technical details may be a bit sloppy (Id welcome help with this). I'll try to expand the entry in the next few weeks.

 * AndyHolyer 16:40, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi, technical information isn't important and may even be a hindrance. Try to picture a reader intelligent and well-informed (she arrived at this article for a reason) but neither a computer scientist nor a computational linguist. Technical descriptions belong in offline references, of which there must be various. HTH -- Viajero | Talk 17:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The big mystery
Hi Andy,

What I'd LOVE to know -and this piece of info could appear in the article- is how come all of you linguists at the then called European Community could not realize (in the 14 years that the project lasted) that in order to come up with a translation algo, all you had to do is use the basic principles of compared syntax,in this case establish patterns between pairs of languages.

Example of pattern:

A white dog ART CADJ NS

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un chien blanc ART NMS  CADJ

This is certainly not rocket science but still no one working on the Eurotra project ever came up with this basic algo and it took engineers at Google and Microsoft a good 10 years to come up with it.

I just don't get it!

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Sabrina Johnston

Sabrina Johnston is an American singer, best known for her 1991 club anthem, "Peace", which reached the Top 10 in the UK Singles Chart.

Career
Johnston grew up in the United States attending summer music camps, dance and voice classes before enrolling at Cheyney State University as a music major. Johnston released her debut single "Peace" in May 1991 on the small New York label JBR Records, and a debut US album titled Peace in the Valley was scheduled for release on the label. Johnston eventually released her debut album, Peace, in 1992, which features her hit single of the same name. Further singles released from the album were "Friendship" and "I Wanna Sing". In the same year, Johnston appeared on the Red Hot Organization's dance compilation album, Red Hot + Dance, contributing an original track, "Peace (Nu-Mix)", to raise awareness and money in support of the AIDS epidemic.

A second album, Sabrina, was released in Japan only in 1996, and re-titled Yum Yum for its US release in 1998. Johnston made an appearance as a backing vocalist on Lauryn Hill's "To Zion", from the 1998 album, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill.

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English grad student at Boston College See SoStark.net my blog/website for everything else

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Talk:Justin Hall

Looking good
Things are looking good here on the Wikipedia entry for Justin Hall!

One thing that I really enjoyed was the Justin Hall audio clip (I linked it myself). If any other Justin Hall fans have links to speeches in downloadable form, PLEASE add them! I think I have listened to my SXSW clip two or three times in the last few months (I burned it onto a CD and listen in the car). Really neat ideas and you get an idea for where his thesis is going - I love the idea.

Here's a JustinHall talk from SecondLife on 4th October 2006 - download mp3 or podcast link

Object to deletion
Justin Hall is a well known internet pioneer in regards to blogging. In fact the Wikipedia article on blogging includes a link to this page. Perhaps Hall has failed to gain noteriety outside of the online realm, but his internet presence for the past 13 years seems worthy for inclusion here. (Beatfreak 07:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC))

Candidate for Deletion
Why do we have an article here for Justin Hall? Let's not dilute wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.99.13.226 (talk) 20:15, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Candidate for Deletion
Also, Justin Hall did not attend his reunion at Francis Parker. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.99.13.226 (talk) 20:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 07:13, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Prod
I think this article passes WP:N.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:33, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Candidate for Deletion
This is a vanity article. Justin Hall is of no importance, except in his own mind. He has never created anything or contributed anything to society that would make him worthy of a Wikipedia article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.172.19.10 (talk) 20:30, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wayne bergeron

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Wayne bergeron
Article about a jazz trumpet player. Has an |BERGERON&uid=MIW040506021240&samples=1&sql=11:3r6cmpbf9f6o~T4 allmusic entry, but only gets credits on other people's albums. Article was originally a vehicle for advertising. Gets 5000 google hits. Originally put up for speedy. Notable? No vote from me; I just moved it here. Meelar (talk) 16:46, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete drini ☎ 16:55, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Uncertain. Over 5,000 google hits (which I know, isn't an accepted criteria) and most of those seem to be attributions for performances.  I would like to see some music heads comment. Wikibofh 18:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Now listed as copyvio. — Phil Welch 00:15, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Janine Tulkens

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Janine Tulkens
College student vanity/nonsense. Fawcett5 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as vanity.   — J I P | Talk 16:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete- yeah, seems like vanity to me. --Irishpunktom\talk 16:53, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - just someone having a laugh. Deb 17:43, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, joke. Thue | talk 20:34, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, doesn't seem to be a joke, just a vanity page. --Idont Havaname 21:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, joke. "Bakes pro bono" is a joke.  Twenty year-olds who direct a physics research group would be verifiable in google.  Samw 17:05, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree, Delete.
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Assumption College

Assumption College may refer to these educational institutions:

Australia

 * Assumption College, Kilmore, Victoria
 * Assumption College, Warwick, Queensland

Canada

 * Assumption University (Windsor, Ontario) (formerly Assumption College)
 * Assumption College (Brantford), Brantford, Ontario

India

 * Assumption College, Changanasserry

Philippines

 * Assumption College of Davao
 * Assumption College San Lorenzo
 * Assumption Antipolo
 * Assumption Iloilo

Thailand

 * Assumption College (Thailand)
 * Assumption College Samutprakarn
 * Assumption College Sriracha
 * Assumption College Thonburi

United States

 * Assumption University (Worcester), Worcester, Massachusetts
 * Assumption College for Sisters, Mendham, New Jersey

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User talk:AustinZ

Good edits on AI -GSR

Hey Austin, How's it going? This is Arjun. See you later. --R6MaY89 02:45, 2005 Jun 9 (UTC)

Yo Jasonglchu 15:10, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Nicolas Flamel (Harry Potter)

This page has been converted to a redirect to Historical characters in Harry Potter.

Isn't it Nicolas, not Nicholas?

It says in the article that in the British and American versions of the book it is spelt without a h. Well following Wikipedia protocol on uses of the different dialects of English in articles, an English-language Wikipedia article should have the same punctuation as the version of English that the subject originates in, was born in etc. As Harry Potter is thoroughly British, all Harry Potter articles on Wikipedia use British English spelling and grammar - except this one. Unless anyone can prove that in the British version it is spelt with a h, I am moving this page to the correct name. It also distinguishes it from the real Nicholas Flamel. --Speedway 20:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, but Nicolas Flamel was French!--216.7.254.254 21:08, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I can confirm that it's spelt the French way (without the h) in the Commonwealth editions of the book (despite the fact that in the movie they insist on pronouncing the -s, as though it were spelt Nicholas!). But please don't move this page, the real Flamel was also French so it is that page that should be at Nicolas Flamel. Let's just merge the page. The 3 paragraphs can go under the "Allusions" heading on the page of the real Nicolas Flamel. Nick 21:39, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Being native French speaker I can confirm that Nicolas is always spelt without 'h' in France. Also someone suggested a merge with the real life Nicolas Flamel, but I reject it, since the two of them have very different stories!. Lag 21:45, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Merger
Disagree: The real life character and the Harry Potter character have different stories. THere is a collection of Harry Potter characters with entries as detailed as this, so to be consistent with that project, the pages should be kept seperate. -AndyBQ 23:01, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

 * But their stories aren't that different. They're both alchemists who were trying to make the Philosopher's Stone. The timeline page says that the attributed age of 665 years would be correct for the real Flamel in 1996, which is when Rowling was actually writing. (Not when the book was finally set, but that's an editing issue.) I think that this proves the Rowling intended for her character to be identical to the real Flamel. I don't think we should pretend that he's fictional when that's not what she wanted.

 * And this page isn't that detailed. He's such a minor character in Harry (he never even appears!) that he doesn't really need a whole page. A single paragraph on the real Flamel page would be enough info. (There already is one under Allusions.) Nick 02:24, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Keep Seperate - despite parallels between the real person and the fictitious character, they are obviously different. For one, only the fictitious character is said to have succeeded in creating the Philosopher's Stone. I'm fine with each article refering to the other; in fact, they should mention each other. Making them one article, however, just isn't right. timrem 03:18, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Keep Seperate - They are very different: the real person never created the philosopher's stone (if you say that he did in an encyclopedia, you will be laughed at). The Harry Potter character did create it. This is such an acheivement, that it cannot be ommited from this article. The encyclopedia however needs to give historically accurate and serious information on the real character, and not mix fiction. Lag

Merge - 1. He never appears! 2. He's obviously meant to be the same person. 3. There's not enough info on the character as such to deserve a separate page. (Look at the character template!) For the difference between fact and fiction, the solution is simple. We say that he had success as he's depicted in the book. Here's my proposed addition to the real page:
 * In Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone J.K. Rowling depicted Flamel as having successfully created a philosopher's stone, which allowed him and Perenelle to live into the 1990s. The events of the novel surround the stone being entrusted to Albus Dumbledore to prevent it being stolen for Lord Voldemort.

Which says enough for us to replace the character page with a redirect. So as not to spoil the ending I have added "Dumbledore mentioned that Flamel had enough elixir to set his affairs in order, but noted that he would die. Nicolas Flamel has not been heard from since in the series, and J.K. Rowling has stated on her website that Flamel is now deceased [1]." to the HP-Philosopher's Stone plot summary. Nick 14:43, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * If there is not enough information for a page on its own, then we need to merge with another Harry Potter page, like "Minor Characters" not with a historical character page which is about historical reality. Lag 19:25, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge with a minor characters page instead - I think that would be a fair compromise. But the closest I could find was this list. It's kinda interesting because, as well as having Perenelle Flamel linking to the real person, three of the Chocolate Frog wizards link to pages of real people. (There's also four legendary characters that Rowling didn't create.) So I think if this compromise is to work we'd have to make a new page, something like Historical Characters in Harry Potter. That page would describe how Rowling diverges from history slightly and link to the real pages. Nick 17:12, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Requests for comment on proposed merger
I strongly advise keeping the Harry Potter version separate from the historical version, although with reference and link from one to the other. Harry Potter is not history, and it trivialises history to confuse the two.Tyrenius 03:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I've revisited this page as it's still on RfC. Some further observations. 1) The reference to Harry Potter that is currently in the historical article gives as much information as can be justified in a historical article. Some people will be going there for serious, factual information about a real person. 2) If it's going to be merged anywhere, there is plenty of space in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone to merge it there, which is the obvious solution, as it's about a character in that story. 3) Or just leave it as it is. Tyrenius 08:37, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I think a merge with Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone would be most appropriate, so long as it then links to the real Flamel Page. Nick 14:54, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I have made a page Historical Characters in Harry Potter and I have done the merge of this article into it. I am creating a redirect to the new page.

Nicolas and Harry.
I am only new to the Nicolas Flamel story but i freely admit that it has got me hook,line and sinker straight away. as to its being used in relation to the Harry potter story, i have to say that i dont think this is a bad thing at all, if anything it will entice younger generations to curiously enquire about such things as the philosophers stone and Nicolas and Pernelle Flamel. and from there who knows where that persons curiosity will lead.

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Howard Brown (Halifax Bank)

Howard Brown (born c. 1966) is a former customer services representative and sales ambassador for HBOS plc, which owned both Bank of Scotland and Halifax Bank (previously the Halifax Building Society) in the United Kingdom. He is best known for his appearances in Halifax/HBOS television advertisements, often singing and dancing.

Biography
He was born in Sheldon, Birmingham, and is of Barbadian descent.

Halifax
Between 1994 and 2011 Brown worked for HBOS Group. Brown became the star of the HBOS Marketing Campaign in 2000, which resulted in him singing in most of his adverts.

In June 2022, Halifax Bank announced on Twitter that they would begin adding pronouns to name tags. This received some criticism on social media, and in response Halifax doubled-down on their stance. Howard Brown condemned this decision, saying, “I think it’s disgraceful. It’s a service industry – you should leave politics to the politicians. They’ve got this one wrong.”

Music and television career
In 2003, he had a role in The Office Christmas special, playing himself alongside Ricky Gervais as David Brent and Paul "Bubble" Ferguson from Big Brother 2. The three men took part in a nightclub promotion Blind Date game which was hosted by Mike McClean. Brown and Bubble were getting on much better with the female contestant than Brent, much to his dissatisfaction. When Brown sat down, McClean shouted at the audience "Who gives you extra?" to which they replied "Who Who Who?". This is a reference to the Halifax advert which sings "Who gives you extra?" to the tune of "Who Let the Dogs Out?" by the Baha Men. Brown does not actually sing in that particular advert as it was performed by Matt Thornfield and Brown only appeared in cartoon form.

In 2004, the Bank Of Scotland dropped Brown from their versions of the adverts, as the style of the adverts was not well received by its customers. In 2005, he released a cover of the Barry White song You're the First, the Last, My Everything as a charity single. It peaked at number 13 in the UK Singles Chart.

From April 2008, Brown no longer starred in the Halifax adverts, instead taking a role in its public relations department. In 2011, he left the company.

In 2017, Brown made a cameo return to the world of advertising in an advert for Hotels.com.

In February 2020, Brown appeared on the TV show First Dates. The same episode was reacted to on the TV show  Gogglebox.

In February 2021, Brown appeared on the TV show Hypothetical (TV series) in its third season as a special guest

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Sign Guy Dudley

Lou D'Angeli (born August 19, 1972) is an American marketing professional and retired professional wrestling manager. He is director of marketing and public relations for Cirque du Soleil in Las Vegas, as well as the Vice President of Marketing for Anthem Entertainment. He is best known for his time performing as a manager in the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania-based professional wrestling promotion Extreme Championship Wrestling from 1995 to 2001 under the ring names Sign Guy Dudley and Lou E. Dangerously.

The Dudley Brothers (1995-1999)
Before being publicly hired by ECW, D'Angeli was an ECW "fan" that came dressed like a Dudley family member, holding up signs like "Welcome to Dudley World" and sitting near other very well known ECW fans like Hat Guy and the original ECW Sign Guy. In reality, D'Angeli was already on ECW's payroll and was planted in the crowd to further the Dudley Family angle. D'Angeli would go on to be trained as a manager by Tommy Dreamer and Tazz.

D'Angeli started out in ECW as Sign Guy Dudley, the manager of the Dudley Boyz and member of the Dudley family. He led Buh Buh Ray and D-Von Dudley to 8 ECW World Tag Team Championship reigns before they left for World Wrestling Federation (WWF).

The Dangerous Alliance (1999-2001)
In October 1999 at Re-enter the Sandman, D'Angeli became a rip-off character of his boss, Paul Heyman, called "Lou E. Dangerously", with the gimmick of a giant cell phone (Heyman's ring name when a manager in World Championship Wrestling and early ECW was Paul E. Dangerously). As Dangerously, D'Angeli is known for several run-ins with Billy Corgan from The Smashing Pumpkins. On 22 July 2000, Corgan took to the ring at a match in Peoria, Illinois to play the national anthem, but Dangerously interrupted and harangued him, ending in Corgan hitting him over the head with an acoustic guitar. D'Angeli managed the tag team of Julio Dinero and E. Z. Money, which became Hot Commodity with the addition of Chris Hamrick and Elektra. He also managed Chris Chetti for a short stint in late 2000. D'Angeli appeared onstage before a Smashing Pumpkins gig in Philadelphia in October 2007, baiting the crowd.

He also refounded the Dangerous Alliance in December 1999.

Independent circuit (2001–2003; 2010; 2012)
When ECW went bankrupt, Lou went to work for other pro wrestling companies such as Combat Zone Wrestling, PWF and MECW. At one point D'Angeli was working with Steve Corino on booking the PWF. D'Angeli last appeared in a ring as a manager in February 2003 with Alexis Laree (Mickie James) and Justin Credible. D'Angeli had a cameo at the 2006 WWE ECW One Night Stand PPV when Rob Van Dam defeated John Cena for the WWE Title.

More recently D'Angeli appeared as part of Montel Vontavious Porter's entourage on Saturday Night's Main Event XXXV from Madison Square Garden when Evander Holyfield, in place of MVP, had a boxing match with Matt Hardy.

Lou appeared as Lou E. Dangerously at ACID FEST in honor of Trent Acid on July 10, 2010.

In March 2012 Lou returned to wrestling with Billy Corgan's group Resistance Pro based out of Chicago. He was brought in to specifically write for the shows as well as help talent given his performing and promoting history with ECW and WWE.

Marketing career
D'Angeli works as the Director of Marketing and Public Relations for the Cirque Du Soleil shows based out of Las Vegas, Nevada.

D'Angeli worked for World Wrestling Entertainment in marketing until August 15, 2010. He was made Director of Live Events Promotions & Booking in June 2006, before becoming Director of Promotions and Event Marketing in May 2007.

Prior to being recruited to work for WWE and after ECW, D'Angeli worked for Comcast Spectacor/Global Spectrum as Director of Marketing and Assistant General Manager in several arenas throughout the United States, including the Wachovia Center, then the Budweiser Events Center in Loveland, Colo from 2003, and finally the Liacouras Center in March 2006.

In addition to his work for Cirque De Soleil, D'Angeli works as the Vice President of Marketing for Anthem Entertainment and by extension, Impact Wrestling. During his time with Impact he tried to reach big names to work with the promotion ,including CM Punk and Mercedes Moné and setted the stage for Trinity, who signed with the promotion and became one time Knockouts Champion. He was released on May 2024.

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S gol v rukata...

S gol v rukata... (With Naked ... in Hand) is the third studio album by the Bulgarian rock band Hipodil, released in 1996 under the Riva Sound label. The album marks a slight departure from the established musical style of the group, with many experiments and new influences including plenty of ska motifs. The most important change however was the lack of openly "funny" songs which probably was provoked by the deteriorating economic situation in Bulgaria, the galloping inflation and the rise in the organised crime at the time. S gol v rukata... never reached the success of Hipodil's previous effort Nekuf ujas, nekuf at or of their next album Nadurveni vuglishta.

The Music
Though the album lacks the freshness and the humorous flavour of Hipodil's other releases, some of the tracks, like "Drashtya s nokti", "Kato Slunce" and "Sprete ni toka" offer the band's trademark puns, parodies and mockery. "3X3" parodies the pop-folk, also known as chalga, quite popular in Bulgaria. "Aferata 'Drayfus'" deals with alcohol-inflicted vomiting and the title is a pun - an out-of-context use of the name of the Dreyfus Affair as the name Dreyfus in Bulgarian sounds similar to the slang verb "drayfam", which means "to vomit". The final track "Nova gratzka pesen" features a tango rhythm mixed with heavy guitars and very cynical lyrics.

Tracks

 * 1) Balada za bratyata Holik (Ballad of the 'Holic Brothers)
 * 2) Triper (Gonorrhoea)
 * 3) Ovtzi (Sheep)
 * 4) S gol v rukata...noj (With Naked...Knife in Hand)
 * 5) Kato Sluntze (Like a Sun)
 * 6) Iska mi se... (I Would Like to...)
 * 7) Sprete ni toka (Shut Down the Current)
 * 8) 3X3
 * 9) Drashtya s nokti (Crabing With Nails)
 * 10) Chlen (Dick)
 * 11) Detskata gradina (The Kindergarten)
 * 12) Aferata "Drayfus" (The "Dreyfus" Affair, the title is a pun meaning "throwing up")
 * 13) Bremenskite muzikanti (The Bremen Musicians)
 * 14) Nova gratzka pesen (New Town Song)

Personnel

 * Svetoslav Vitkov - vocals
 * Petar Todorov - guitars
 * Ventzi Basistcheto - bass guitar
 * Lacherzar Marinov - drums

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Tanda (Khyber Pakhtunkhwa)

Tanda is a village in the Mansehra District of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province of Pakistan. It is also the administrative centre of Tanda Union Council, a subdivision of Mansehra Tehsil. It is located at 34.48333°N, 73.3°W at an elevation of 1037 metres (3405 feet). Most of the inhabitants are of the Swati tribe, subsection Gabri styled as 'Mirs' and known as Panjghols.

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Talk:Minor Dark wizards in Harry Potter

Rowle & Dolohov
When Ron, Hermione and Harry were in the cafe in Tottenham Lord Voldemot's henchmen Rowle & Dolohov were not disguised as workmen. Somehow someone has put two and two together and got five. There were workmen over the road who were being loud and rude to Hermione but it makes absoloutely no reference to them being the Death Eater's. Also when they enter the cafe they immediatley started attacking so they were'nt wearing disguises at all. Editing.

I'm afraid Mr. or Mrs. 2+2=5 that you are wrong. If you are American, read Chapter Nine, pages 164-165 of Deathly Hallows a few times. Dolohov and Rowle were most certainly dressed as workmen as is mentioned at least twice on page 165.

Individual pages discussion
Please participate in the discussion at Talk:Harry_Potter regarding having individual pages for characters rather than group pages. --billlund 21:20, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

Regulus Black
Some articles seem to take it as canon that R.A.B. is Regulus Black. But has JKR actually confirmed it? Knowing her, it may not be. Sonic Mew | talk to me 18:48, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree, and I believe R.A.B. not to him. Although it seems rather important to put it here where it is. Attention is needed, though, as you say, because this cannot be taken as granted. --Jotomicron | talk 01:40, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I've just added that JK more or less confirmed Regulus Black being R.A.B. - see Mugglenet's Interview with her: --FermatSim 17:45, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, strictly she confirmed that it was a good guess, that there was indeed reason to think it could be him. Her words might be interpreted to mean that we are supposed to guess it was him, even though it later turns out not to be.Sandpiper 01:18, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 'twas him indeed! Pretty pathetic way of finding out the proof though! --  Maijstral  09:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Fenrir Greyback
I think the Death Eater loyalty is not really correct. He is not (I believe, and it is not stated anywhere) a Death Eater. Writing Lord Voldemort instead would be better. --Jotomicron | talk 01:42, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Where is it established in Harry Potter canon that werewolves can be born rather than having to be turned into werewolves after birth? This may be an element of other stories involving werewolves, but I don't recall it appearing in this particular variation of werewolf lore. --Icarus 18:10, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Ironic that Dumbledore's middle name, Wulfric, means Wolf Ruler, don't you think :) Red Ed 13:28, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

btw Fenir Greyback isnt exactly a wizard, is he? So shouldn't he NOT be in this article? maybe change the title of the article to "Minor sevants of Lord Voldemort (Harry Potter)" or something O.O The pointer outer 20:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Should it really be in the article that Greyback is like Mussolini. That seems a little absurd to me. Should we also compare him to Saddam Hussein? Stalin? Mao? It's easy to come up with 'evil' stereotypes from history, but addition in an encyclopedia seems pointless. ABart26 20:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

R.A.B. has his own page. Shouldn't Greyback have his own too? They both are featured just as much in the novels (possibly Greyback by a little more) and they each are important to the storylines. Anyone else think Fenrir should get his own article? --Piemanmoo 09:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Grindelwald
What evidence is there that creating a Horcrux isn't always evil? Slughorn says in Book 6 that the soul is meant to remain whole, and that splitting it is against nature, which would, if anything, imply the contrary. It is one thing to suggest that killing 'by accident' or 'to save other people' is not evil, but another to say that creating a horcrux isn't evil either. As we know, there is a specific spell that must be cast to encase the fragment of soul in an object - it doesn't just jump out when you kill someone. If there's no objection, I think this latest edit should be removed.--Libatius 11:46, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

There is no proof, but there has relatively recently been an essay on dumbledoreisnotdead.com saying that Fawkes is Dumbledore's horcrux- and most of the support is actually sound. You can read it for yourself to understand where that last editor was coming from, but in truth that last edit should be deleted... Emily ( Funtrivia Freak ) 00:54, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Can we get a reference on Rowling saying that Grindelwald is dead? --user:Rdbrady April 12 2006

 * And is there any evidence that Dumbledore killed him? Rdbrady's question is spot on.  Thanks for the dumbledoreisnotdead.com essay Emily.  I honestly find all the 'Dumbledore isn't really dead' chat as interesting as the next person, but I still stand by my initial comments.  (I know you agreed that the edit should be removed - this is just to clarify for anyone else).  I know this isn't the place to discuss what may or may not have happened to Dumbledore - there are more than enough people discussing the issue on mugglenet.com - but the article is, in my humble opinion, a long way out there.  In any case, there is just as much evidence to the contrary.  Put simply, this page runs the risk of becoming a playground for anyone who has a Harry Potter theory if we allow this sort of edit, and the fact that it is 'new' doesn't make it any more valid. --Libatius 16:59, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * JKR confirmed that Grindelwald was dead in an interview with Mugglenet, but she didn't say that Dumbledore killed him (i believe Voldemort killed Grindelwald to create a horcrux)

This should probably be split into a different article once DH is released. From what I read, his role is large enough to warrant a seperate article.

 * Impossible. There is less than one line of information about Grindelwald from the whole series till now. What kind of a page can you create? Probably after HP7 comes out, we may do so. But till then, he's just a blip. Sniperz11 04:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Definitely should be spun off into a new article, he has a pretty big role in DH Skhatri2005 00:00, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Must be spun off: there's a huge amount of info about him in DH NYYW 21:30 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Yup. I agree. Sniperz11 01:54, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

 * I concur. There's actually quite a bombshell in DH regarding Grindelwald, so it would be worth splitting the wizard out into a separate article. 24.80.110.173 02:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

The Prewetts
When is it ever stated that the Prewetts were Molly Weasley's brothers?

Yes, JKR has said it herself.--Jnelson09 16:26, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Avery
Avery was actually punished for giving Voldemort misinformation 'bout the department of mysteries. Is there any proof that Avery was the baby headed death eater?

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/essays/essay-battle.html No, there is no proof, but that link will take you to a site that sort of...tries to figure out which death eater was which in the Battle of the Department of Mysteries. The person who wrote that article guessed that it was Crabbe Sr. who was the baby headed death eater.CaydenSelwyn 05:47, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

10 escaped death eatrs
who were the other 4 escaped death eaters? I only have 6.

Avery in the film Goblet Of Fire
I added Richard Rosson as playing Avery in the film a few weeks ago, but subsequently discovered that his part had been dropped from the film's cinematic edit. However, I have had word from Richard that he may be on the DVD issue of the film, but we are not aware if it will be as a bonus feature or part of the DVD edit of the feature. All I do know for sure is that he shot footage of Avery being tortured, and that he had one line of dialogue that went something like "yes master..." or "please forgive me master..." which he felt would probably be dubbed over. Richard is a contortionist so you can bet that his torture scenes would have been really good! McGonicle 23:07, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

The Carrows being merged here
It seems like a good idea to me. Emily 03:16, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Does this mean someone's gonna merge it? Emily ( Funtrivia Freak ) 01:23, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Support. Fbv 65 edel (discuss 22:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I support this as well. There are much bigger characters (Fenrir Greyback, Dolohov, probably Regulus Back) on here than the really minor Carrows. If they aren't Amycus and Alecto than they so far had just one mention in Canon. Neville Longbottom 20:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, merge, there's nothing there. Sandpiper 23:52, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Agree merge away. Death Eater Dan    [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|  ]] ( Muahaha ) 00:12, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * ah, now youre asking... Will have a look if I get time, but anyone gets there first, feel free Sandpiper 08:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and merged the articles.Bibliophile 13:27, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Antonin Dolohov
Why does it say he was played by Vin Diesel? This just seems like speculation as its not listed on Vin Diesel's IMdB acting credits. Hadiz 21:25, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Is there a reason why this minor dark wizard had his section deleted? Emily ( Funtrivia Freak ) 04:16, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I've added him again, but not everything from the old article, since I found it too long. Don't know why it was deleted, though. Neville Longbottom 20:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

The statement "Antonin is a French name" mayh be true, but Antonin Dvorak (forgive the lack of diacritics) was one of the most prominent Czech composers.

 * The suggestion that Antonin is a typical French name is nonsense as far as I know. It is mentioned as a French form of Antoninus on www.behindthename.com, but it's also listed as a Czech name. The statement that it's an Italian name doesn't seem to be supported. Rowling clearly meant Dolohov to hail from the Balkans (Bulgaria seems like a good guess, he might well be an acquaintance of Igor Karkaroff) and so it's reasonable to say that the name Antonin, in this case, is Czech. --84.26.109.69 12:19, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Tagged for cleanup
I've tagged this article for cleanup with multiple tags explaining the various problems this article has. Some relevant guidelines to look at might be WP:V ,WP:RS, and WP:FICT. Moreschi Request a recording? 20:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProjects Dogs
Why is this tagged as WikiProjects Dogs?

 * That Fenrir dude is a werewolf. Wolves are canines, so that's why-- 양 복  42 00:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

rodolphus and rabastan movie picture
can we get a good picture of the lestrange brothers form the movie? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.162.163.46 (talk) 19:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

Title caps
Any reason that the word "dark" is capitalized in the title and text? Exploding Boy 15:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Color Codes
Is there any significance in the color codings of the names in the infoboxes? If so, there should be a legend appended. If not, we should keep a single color code. Sniperz11 03:17, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It seems that confirmed Slytherins are colored in silver and green, the official colors of the Slytherin house. People whose house has never been mentioned are in black and white.  Elchip 14:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Travers Actor
Tav Macdougall has his part in OOtP listed on his CV as "Travers" - is this acceptable sourcing with citation? --fauxcouture<T> 20:22, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

DH update?
Possible spoiler alert.

Surely the Carrows deserve their own page now... We've also learned that Greyback is NOT a Death Eater (he doesn't have the Mark). It's also now confirmed that Yaxley is NOT "Big Blond"... that guy's name was revealed but I've forgotten it already :(

I think Grindenwald deserve his own page too, after DH
 * the Big blond baddie was Rowle. Sniperz11

Dolohov
It never mentioned that he was killed just defeated By Flitwick why dose it say he died

 * Because some people like to assume that if a wizard is defeated in battle, that means he is killed. It says that Dolohov "falls with a scream." That doesn't look like "Flitwick kills Dolohov" to me. All we can do is keep correcting it when people change it. Faithlessthewonderboy 12:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Aye, no kidding, people assumed Grindelwald was dead, but he turned out being quite alive. (Odd considering Rowling apparently said he was dead) Elchip 14:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

It says he 'fell with a scream' to Flitwick...that indicates he was killed, especially as Rowling used the same words with 'fall' on Bellatrix, and Rowling was likely giving us Dolohov's death in exchange for Lupin. Can someone just ask Jo and put an end to all this?

 * Sure, I'll just call her up. Look, if he was killed, presumably Flitwick would have used the killing curse. If this is the case, he wouldn't have screamed, as the Avada Kedavra curse kills instantaneously, as we've seen with Dumbledore and Diggory. Also, go back and read the book again, it doesn't say anywhere that Bellatrix was killed. Faithlessthewonderboy 16:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Gee, here I thought there was a nice section at Leaky Cauldron where one could submit questions, but silly me. Also, since when was the only way to kill someone the killing curse? Last I checked, Evan Rosier was killed by Aurors...you're telling me they used the killing curse? A single curse from Peter Pettigrew killed 12 Muggles...doesn't sound like the killing curse to me. Sectumsempra was capable of killing people, so are stunners....and by the same token, the article mentions Ron and Neville 'stun' Greyback...don't recall THAT mentioned in the book. Dolohov is the only Death Eater specifically mentioned as 'falling' in the middle of battle, what should that tell you? The other Death Eaters are all specifically mentioned as defeated but in situations where they'd still be alive. Somehow, it slipped JK's mind to do this for Dolohov, who'd killed someone as prominent as Lupin? And Bellatrix died. To claim otherwise is just silly. Hit by a curse? When both women were directly stated as fighting to kill? Voldemort's rage at it? claiming there's no proof or evidence is just being willfully ignorant. Bellatrix dies and anyone who can read the book would realize it.

 * The Leaky Cauldron is a fan site. I didn't say that it was the only way to kill someone, but it is the most common, and I said "presumably" that's what he would have used. Aurors were authorized during the first war by Crouch to kill instead of arresting, so yes it's quite likely that that's what they used. Yes, it's almost certain that Bellatrix was killed. That's not the point. What is the point is that it is not clearly stated that either Bellatrix or Dolohov are killed. That being the case, it's not appropriate to put it in an encyclopedia. On WP we can't assume anything. Faithlessthewonderboy 18:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

It's a fan site, so? JKR still takes questions from it and has occasionally done interviews on it. Also, considering we have indications of actual battles going on, and again there is more than one way to kill someone besides an Unforgivable Curse, seems apparent they weren't using something as dark as the AK with Rosier....there's no indication it was even used on the Prewetts. It's only not 'clearly stated' if you need to have every last little detail spelled out for you. There's nothing that says Bellatrix is ever insane, but there it is: from hints given in the book. What is the case, is that some seem to be attempting to force an interpretation down everyone else's throat while claioming there's no definite proof when all evidence points against them.

05:38, 21 August 2007 (UTC)==Yaxley== Is said he was at the First battle of Hogwarts and Harry seen him Before so he must has Been the Brutale faced Guy.
 * It could have been Gibbon? Elchip 14:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

No, not Gibbon. Gibbon was dead by the time Harry entered the castle, one of the two bodies he steps over in HBP. As well, since Harry recognizes Yaxley, it could easily be assumed that he was the brutal faced Death Eater. (Rowle, the huge blonde, was in the castle at the time.)CaydenSelwyn 05:40, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Rookwood parts Deleted
I Deleted the part with Him fighting Dean and Parvati Because the person who stated it needs to read Pages 644 and 645 Again Because Dean is Dueling Dolohov and Parvati was dueling Travers Peeves came by droping plants on Death Eaters one it the Invivibilte Cloak a Death Eater noticed and Called to others Dean Stuned him Dolohov Was about to Retaliate but was Put in the full Body bind This being a Runing gag as it was done to him 3 other times 2 times in book 5 and 2 times in the 7th the time i am talking about and in the muggle Cafe.
 * Mate, I'd like to introduce you to a little thing I like to call "punctuation". You may find it comes in useful in helping people understand what the hell you're talking about. - PeeJay 11:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe we can back up and start over, primarily by rmeembering to not bite the newbies. I am sure your edits aren't without blemish. Ease up a bit and be nice. Purty please? - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  06:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Lupin vs. Dolohov
The article says, "It has been stated that this battle was too gruesome to include in the actual story, so it was done off screen." However, the reference given (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/7/30/j-k-rowling-web-chat-transcript) doesn't seem to mention that. Can anyone find it? Ophois 13:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Fenrir Greyback: sexually assault Hermione?
It says right now that: "He also expresses an unhealthy interest in Hermione, go so far as to imply that he wants to sexually assault her." Yes, Fenrir Greyback did comment that he liked how Hermione's skin was soft and smooth, but I took it that he wanted to bite her, rather than sexually assault her. I'm not sure if it should be changed...Airox 06:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Um, ew. I am almost certain that Fenrir wanted to eat hermione, and that isn't code. I think some people are putting an adult spin on this that shouldn't be there. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  06:11, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

De-crufting complete
I have trimmed out all the cruft, the verb-tense issues and the OR. The Cruft Eaters™ strike again. You may cheer, but you may also join, and eat all the cruft you want. :) - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  06:11, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Dolohov
Maybe he deserves his own page, he appeared quite frequently in Deathly Hallows.--Dominik92 16:56, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * So long as you have lots and lots of citations for him outside the books themselves. Otherwise, it would be removed as per WP:UNDUE. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  20:45, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Rookwood, based on Rockwood, a teacher who banned Potter books?
Check out this article It is about a teacher named Rockwood who had Potter banned from her schools. Could her name have been used by Jo Rowling as inspiration for the Death eater Rookwood? Is there any evidence of this?Wizlop 07:39, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

 * I'd seriously doubt it, I don't think that JKR would be that petty (and potentially libelous). She has said before that the only character that is based upon an actual person is Gilderoy Lockhart. Faithlessthewonderboy 08:37, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I know that Lockhart is based on a real person, but has JKR said that he's the ONLY one based on a real person, or is he the only character that she has stated being based on a real person? Chandler  talk  08:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The former. Here is the link. :) Faithlessthewonderboy 09:09, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Not to continue this, but that link doesn't really have a date on it. She might have decided to kick the Rookwood fellow later. Frankly, I find that really unlikley. I mean, she has more money than HRH, so I imagine just going to the store is an exercise in avoiding lawsuits. 'She bumped into my shopping cart and caused whiplash! Pain and suffering!' Please, even if Rowling is that thick, the people around her by and large aren't. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  09:16, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Now that I take another look at the link I posted, she described Lockhart as the only character depicting someone she had met. I guess technically that means another character could be based on someone she hadn't met. But that's just being nit-picky. Faithlessthewonderboy 09:23, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Sorry, I was unclear. I meant perhaps the NAME was inspired by the teacher, rather than the character. A lot of Rowling's character names are "inspired." Whilst it does seem petty, it could equally be classed as appealling to Rowling's witty sense of humour. There would be Millions of people who would LOVE their name being borrowed- so she picks a person who had the books banned. However, without any evidence I guess its speculation and no more than that- the subtle change of letter avoids direct libel, I would think. But- nothing more than gossip?Wizlop 17:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

 * (I cleaned up the spacing problem with the above post, hope no one minds :)) Gossip, I would say. The books also contain a large number of very common names (Potter, Evans, Thomas, Smith, etc.) and if one looks hard enough I'm sure there is someone in the world named Smith who has crusaded against HP. And surely there are more noteworthy people (politicians and the like) who Rowling could have parodied if that was her game. This Rockwood person appears to be of no real significance, so why would JKR single him/her out? Faithlessthewonderboy 20:40, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Well, it is possible the name was "inspired" - When choosing names Rowling might have come across this criticism from Rockwood (which WAS a big local news story,) decided she liked the name or whatever, and changed it to avoid libel. Calling a charcter "Toni Blaire" would have been far to obvious- not her style. But without proof, yeah, its just speculation. But if I ever do get the chance, I'm going to ask her- if it IS true its remarkably witty and devilish, and so ironic!Wizlop 04:54, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

minor dark wizards more like minor death eaters
what the hell iss it just me or is this page just minor death eaters what ever happened to herpo the foul the first known creator of a basilisk and a parselmouth

Herpo the Foul
He just isn't notable enough to warrant inclusion. The information known about him can't possibly be stretched beyond one sentence. faithless  (speak)  17:02, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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BID 770

The BID 770 was a British-built electronic cryptography device, codenamed TOPIC. It was also used by Canada's foreign service under the codename TENEC. TOPIC was brought into service in 1977, and became obsolete in 1995.

TOPIC was used to protect telegraph traffic, and replaced the earlier mechanical system called ROCKEX. It could be operated in both on- and off-line modes. Weighing 65 lb, the machine used diode–transistor logic instead of single transistors.

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Joe Weider

Josef Weider (November 29, 1919 – March 23, 2013) was a Canadian bodybuilder and entrepreneur who co-founded the International Federation of BodyBuilders (IFBB) alongside his brother Ben Weider. He was also the creator of Mr. Olympia, Ms. Olympia, and the Masters Olympia bodybuilding contests. He was the publisher of various bodybuilding and fitness-related magazines, most notably Muscle & Fitness, Flex, Men's Fitness, and Shape, and the manufacturer of a line of fitness equipment and fitness supplements. In 2014, he was inducted into the International Sports Hall of Fame.

Life and career
Weider was born in Montreal, Quebec, to Louis and Anna Weider, Polish Jewish emigrants from Kurów, Poland. He published the first issue of Your Physique magazine in 1940, and built a set of barbells out of car wheels and axles the same year out of the family garage on Coloniale Street in Montreal. He designed numerous training courses beginning in the 1950s, including the Weider System of Bodybuilding.

He married Hedwiges "Vicky" Uzar; together they had one child, Lydia Ross, and subsequently divorced in 1960. During his marriage to Vicky Uzar, he had met Betty Brosmer, who was then the highest-paid pin-up girl in the U.S. In 1961 Joe and Betty married, and she began working alongside him as Betty Weider. Betty and Joe together authored books on bodybuilding. Joe and Ben together were the co-founders of the International Federation of BodyBuilders.

In 1968, the brothers brought Arnold Schwarzenegger to California. At the time Schwarzenegger was a relatively unknown Austrian bodybuilder.

Nutritional products
The family founded Weider Nutrition in 1936, considered the first sports nutrition company. Now called Schiff Nutrition International, they were the creators of Tiger's Milk nutrition bars and related products, one of the earliest lines of sports foods. There are now two companies making supplements and bearing Weider's name - Weider Global Nutrition, and Weider Germany GmbH that is popular in Europe.

Fitness publications
In 1953, Your Physique was renamed Muscle Builder magazine. The name changed again to Muscle & Fitness in 1980. Other magazines published by Weider's publishing empire included Mr. America, Muscle Power, Shape magazine, Fit Pregnancy, Men's Fitness, Living Fit, Prime Health and Fitness, Cooks, Senior Golfer, and Flex, in addition to the "skin magazines" Jem Magazine and Monsieur. The last two publications caused at least two clashes with obscenity laws. Weider has written numerous books, including The Weider System of Bodybuilding (1981), and co-wrote the 2006 biography Brothers Of Iron with Ben Weider. In 1983, Weider was named "Publisher of the Year" by The Periodical and Book Association. In 2003, his publication company, Weider Publications, was sold to American Media.

Legal issues
In 1972, Weider and his brother Ben found themselves the target of an investigation led by U.S. Postal inspectors. The investigation involved the claims regarding their nutritional supplement Weider Formula No. 7. The product was a weight-gainer that featured a young Arnold Schwarzenegger on the label. The actual claim centered on consumers being able to "gain a pound per day" in mass. Following an appeal wherein Schwarzenegger testified, Weider was forced to alter his marketing and claims. Also in 1972, Weider encountered legal problems for claims made in his booklet Be a Destructive Self-Defense Fighter in Just 12 Short Lessons.

Weider was ordered to offer a refund to 100,000 customers of a "five-minute body shaper" that was claimed to offer significant weight loss after just minutes a day of use. The claims, along with misleading "before and after" photographs, were deemed false advertising by a Superior Court Judge in 1976.

In the 1980s, Weider found himself answering charges levied by the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). In 1984, the FTC charged that ads for Weider's Anabolic Mega-Pak (containing amino acids, minerals, vitamins, and herbs) and Dynamic Life Essence (an amino acid product) had been misleading. The FTC complaint was settled in 1985 when Weider and his company agreed not to falsely claim that the products could help build muscles or be effective substitutes for anabolic steroids. They also agreed to pay a minimum of $400,000 in refunds or, if refunds did not reach this figure, to fund research on the relationship of nutrition to muscle development.

In 2000, Weider Nutritional International settled another FTC complaint involving false claims made for alleged weight loss products. The settlement agreement called for $400,000 to be paid to the FTC and for a ban on making any unsubstantiated claims for any food, drug, dietary supplement, or program.

Death
Weider died of heart failure on March 23, 2013, at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, at the age of 93.

Honours and accolades
On Labor Day 2006, California governor and seven times Mr. Olympia winner Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Weider protégé, presented him with the Venice Muscle Beach Hall of Fame's Lifetime Achievement award. Schwarzenegger credited Weider with inspiring him to enter bodybuilding and to come to the United States. That same year Joe and Ben received the lifetime achievement award by the Young Men's Hebrew Association.

In 2014, Joe, Ben and Betty were inducted into the International Sports Hall of Fame.

In popular culture
The movie Bigger was released in 2018 focusing on the life of Joe Weider. Tyler Hoechlin plays Joe Weider, while Julianne Hough plays Betty Weider, his second wife. Aneurin Barnard plays the role of Ben Weider, Joe's younger brother.

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Talk:MIDI-THRU

I removed the following statement:

 * Inexpensive opto-isolators are commonly used in the repeater circuit for MIDI-THRU, so small analog distortion can be expected at the output. Therefore, chaining many devices using MIDI-IN to MIDI-THRU can eventually result in the MIDI signal degrading. This would only occur when the accumulated analog distortion accumlates to the point of becoming digitally significant.

Latency becomes an issue before analog distortion affects the signal integrity. --Rick Sidwell 16:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Parable of the Prodigal Son

I beleive, this is a story, Jesus told. It says in the holy book.

Citation for verse

 * It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.

Can we get a proper citation for this verse, including verse number and Bible translation? I assume it's KJV, but one shouldn't have to assume. Canonblack 23:54, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I added a parenthetical citation. —Caesura(t) 01:40, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The quotation from the KJV above—"It was meet"—is completely anachronistic. Nobody talks that way today. If it is necessary to quote the Bible in this article, PLEASE use a modern version!Wctrenchard (talk) 23:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Criticism
An anon. had added the following:

 * "This parable has suggested to some that it is not necessary to live virtuously in life, or do anything worthy of salvation. One may do as one pleases, providing one repents their sins in the moment before death.

I have removed it for the moment, on two grounds: (i) it should be incorporated into the discussion of repentance in the Interpretation section but in any case (ii) the vague "suggested to some" will not do. Before incorporating this, we should know where that line of criticism comes from - what author(s) or what body of opinion? seglea 17:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[Warning: this is my first attempt at posting anything of relevance with Wikipedia, please bear with me - any suggestions are welcome] There may be some benefit to allowing this criticism to be answered publicly. How can we show this as an example? It is tough to digest the extreme grace displayed in the parable. Part of a series of discussions of this parable. This part of the series contrasts the proverb with an ancient Asian legend. is another example of this effective contrast. Essentially, the story is the same until the final part. In the Asian Parable, the offender pays for his crime with death, while in Jesus' parable, the Father takes the dishonor when he runs to meet his lost son. (citation needed to verify that in Jewish Culture it dishonored the Father to run, which also allowed the Father's village to accept the boy back as well, since dishonor had been atoned for by the Father). That citation might also confront the apparent absence of Jesus' role in this parable, and perhaps explain some of how He and the Father are one, and that might dispel some other criticisms of the incarnation of God in Christ, of which this link is an example:. Philsawa (talk) 15:18, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Interpretations
I just read this article for the first time, and I must admit I'm more than a bit shocked at the interpretations expressed. In conversing with people from a wide variety of religious (Christian) traditions, all who are familiar with the parable have considered it to be about the eldest son. Reading the text of the parable, this is rather obvious. I have heard many sermons preached about this parable, but few of those have concentrated on the unfaithful son. Any reader who reads with comprehension will see that the parable is clearly about the faithful but bitter eldest son, who instead of rejoicing at the return of his "lost" sibling responds with jealousy at the seemingly "royal" treatment his prodigal brother receives. The father's first words in responding to his bitter eldest son -- "Thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine" -- form the crux of this parable. I am amazed that they were left out of the original summary, and have added them in, along with brief treatment of the underlying theme.

I haven't removed anything, but I think someone ought to rewrite this article to emphasize the nature of the parable as being directed toward the eldest son, not toward the so-called "prodigal". I would do it myself; but frankly, the intensity of my visceral response to this article suggests that I may not be the most unbiased person to do the deed. I will do it if no one else wants to, but I'd prefer if someone else did. Spoxjox 22:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

 * All you need is something a little better than "in conversing with people from a wide variety of religious (Christian) traditions, all who are familiar with the parable"... Like a source... If this interpretation or inference is a legitimate one, finding it in a published source shouldn't be too hard... ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 22:39, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Baloney. There is not one single citation in this article. It's all interpretation. Requiring that I cite my source is absurd, given that NO ONE has cited any sources. It's textual interpretation. Go and READ THE TEXT. It says exactly what I wrote. I'm not making anything up, CS. It's all right there. Spoxjox 16:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

 * If as you say there are no citations in the article, the solution is not to add still more uncited speculations and inferences. Go ahead and read WP:CITE. ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 16:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Fair enough. To further your effort, I have added in more fact tags. Spoxjox 18:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Has there been any investigation of the metaphoric interpretations of this parable? E.g. God is the father and the sons represent the Jews and gentiles? Mimizhusband 14:48, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps the emphasis is neither on the unfaithful nor the faithful son, besides, were they not both unfaithful and faithful? The emphasis is on true repentance and God's response to it. If a sinner should truly repent, then God's grace enters in. He started out in his father's presense, left, lived prodigally, and turned 180 degrees and returned to his father. The lesson here is don't leave in the first place, yet also if you don't and you see a sinner return home, don't be envious and judgemental. The Pharisees obviously did not understand this. (crucified2_20) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.150.6.248 (talk) 01:56, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Most of the Interpretation section of this article is completely irrelevant to the meaning of this parable in its context. It is not an allegory, as implied. There is no internal indication that the man with two sons stands for God. This parable is simply the third of three reversely progressive stories all depicting scenes of loss, finding, and celebration. The first two are said to be like the celestial celebration at the repentance of one sinner. The last story stops but does not end, because it is not known if the older brother joins the party at his father's pleading. The purpose of the trilogy of stories, climaxing in the last one, is a progressive invitation to the Pharisees and religious leaders of v. 2 to join Jesus in welcoming and celebrating with the marginalized people in the contemporary Jewish society. Luke has Jesus address this set of stories to these leaders and awaits their response like that of the older brother. Accordingly, how the story ends is up to them, just as it is to its modern readers.Wctrenchard (talk) 23:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Authorship
Since this is only found in Luke, shouldn't this sentence: "In the story told by Jesus..." be rewritten as "In the Gospel of Luke, Jesus tells the story...".

The authorship of Luke is disputed enough, which compounded with the debate as to how accurately the gospels relate what Jesus actually said seems to demand this kind of treatment. In fact, there are no claims that Luke (whoever he was) actually met Jesus (if he did exist). This treatment as fact of Jesus relating this story seems POV. I have made the change. QEDQED 22:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Luke, the author, claims in the first chapter that he is writing a letter to a possible friend named Theophilus. The fact he never claims to have met Jesus is obviously true, he admits his information came from all primary sources. Only first hand accounts, and eye witnesses. He claims to do this to find the "truth" in what all others were talking about, strangely enough, his account of the Gospel harmonizes with Matthew's and Mark's account. Matthew, a man who did experience it as it happened.

I agree that the article should have more about the likely inauthenticity of this parable, given that Luke's Gospel is the least trustworthy, and this story appears only in Luke. Jesus opposed animal sacrifice, and kosher killing is a type of ritual sacrifice. This idiom of "killing a fatted calf" may have come from the Greek language in which the Gospels were written, and was likely not an idiom in the Aramaic that Jesus spoke. There is nowhere else in the entire Bible, OT nor NT, where the "fatted calf" phrase is used, and so the article should not glibly assume that Jesus actually used the phrase. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.119.6 (talk) 17:04, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

explanation for my deletions
I am removing from the main section a great deal of interpretation of the parable that, as Spoxjox has pointed out, is both unsourced and questionable. The fact tags have been there for months. I am also removing the last paragraph of the Publicans and Pharisees section; it too has had a fact tag for months, and also seems to be drifting off-topic. I'm leaving the two other (also unsourced) paragraphs in this section because I don't have an opinion on them and they haven't had fact tags. But I am putting a {sources} tag on that section, and I have no objection if anyone else wants to remove them. --Allen 05:41, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Ahikar
Supposedly the sayings of Ahikar (or Ahiqar) contain a similar story of a Prodigal Son, perhaps influencing the New Testament parable. Might this be mentioned in the article, assuming the Ahikar version is older? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.202.208 (talk) 00:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

The age of the bible and it's writings have been determined by many historian. Never have I heard of the age of Ahikar's sayings and that they are older than the Bible. Without the correct age of these "sayings" than we can't assume they came first. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.131.136.24 (talk) 19:26, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

File:ReturnOfTheProdigalSon-IW.jpg may be deleted
I have tagged File:ReturnOfTheProdigalSon-IW.jpg, which is in use in this article for deletion because it does not have a copyright tag. If a copyright tag is not added within one week the image will be deleted. -- Chris  07:23, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

King James Version?
Why is the King James version used in this article and not any other versions of the Bible?

Jbird669 (talk) 18:44, 25 September 2009 (UTC)jbird669

That's a good question, Jbird. I wonder if there is a way for a reader to change to their preferred translation (or compare with their preferred translation) when the Bible is used text of Wikipedia? I'm new to this so perhaps changing to a more understandable translation is a better and more timely way to achieve understanding.

I'd be happy to replace the verses with another version if you agree.Philsawa (talk) 15:27, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure. Maybe we can link to various versions? I changed it from KJV to NIV Jbird669 (talk) 19:41, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Good Charlotte - The River
in the "popular music" section there should be a mention of "The River" by Good Charlotte, in which there is a line "like the prodigal son I was out on my own. now I'm trying to find my way back home..." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.62.105.166 (talk) 14:54, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Refs
Refs seems to be a luxury here, unless some are added, deletions are in order. History2007 (talk) 20:47, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem appears to be mainly with music and literature. I would suggest that anything with "prodigal son" in the title has an obvious connection, but everything else needs a ref or it should go. -- Radagast 3 (talk) 05:43, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * And specific claims need a ref, of course. -- Radagast 3 (talk) 07:23, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Cleanup
I think the unsourced literature and music items add nothing to the article. If you don't object, I will remove them, else please just do. There is only that much unsourced that can be tolerated. It needs to be cleaned up. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 08:10, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree we need cleanup, but give me some time to chase up refs. -- Radagast 3 (talk) 08:57, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I've added some refs, deleted some unsourced material, and tagged a statement in the music section that needs support if it is to stay. Others are supported by linked Wikipedia articles. -- Radagast 3 (talk) 12:31, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Looked hard for a source on that last, found none, deleted the sentence. I think the section is OK now. -- Radagast 3 (talk) 10:12, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

"The Prodigal Son Has Returned"
I've heard that phrase used in popular culture, and it obviously refers to the parable. However, the article does not mention it. What does it mean, and shouldn't its definition be added to the article? 75.157.120.15 (talk) 05:25, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * A good thing to do, if we can find a reliable source. -- Radagast 3 (talk) 05:41, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

 * I have witnessed this phrase on television and in newspapers, and 'prodigal' is an insult when misapplied. It is the incorrect assignment of the word with 'returning' rather than with 'profligate' or 'wasteful'.  I think it's intended to affect a biblical knowledge by those who have had a childhood introduction to the story, and not verified its definition before using it publicly.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.186.92.224 (talk) 02:09, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Template content second opinion
I have been working on The Prodigal Son based on content on WP. In many cases it is very difficult to determine if a page should be in the template based solely on the content in the WP article. The following are articles that have titles that suggest that they may be thematically related to the parable, but the content of the article does not confirm this:
 * 1) Prodigal Son (Electronic song)
 * 2) The Prodigal Son (Nektar album)
 * 3) Prodigal Son (The Saints album)
 * 4) Prodigal Son (Sevendust song)
 * 5) Prodigal Son (Martin Simpson album)
 * 6) The Prodigal Son (1923 film)
 * 7) Wolverine: Prodigal Son
 * 8) The Return of the Prodigal Son (album)

The following are articles with titles and content suggesting a thematic relation, but not clear enough linkage for me to include them on the template:
 * 1) The Prodigal Son (1934 film)
 * 2) The Prodigal Son (play)

The following are articles with content suggesting the possibility of a thematic relation to the parable. Most of them mention the term "prodigal son" but do not really clarify a relation to the parable. Others reference the parable as a somewhat minor element of the article. In all likelihood, I would not argue with a second opinion that any of them should be included in the template:
 * 1) Cap Tourmente (film)
 * 2) The Illusion (play)
 * 3) Absalom and Achitophel
 * 4) The Miser and his Gold
 * 5) What Is Man? (essay)
 * 6) A New Trick to Cheat the Devil
 * 7) Swan Sequence

Advice welcome.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:24, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

 * It's hard to tell because this is a phrase that has entered into common parlance and stories of adult children returning to the family home are everywhere. While I wish I could just say "let's put in things that secondary sources talk about," realistically I know we'd miss out on stuff that belongs in the template because R.S.S. just don't talk about it much period. I would say that the journey and/or welcome return of the prodigal child must be the main subject of a story for that story to belong on the template - so eg. no Cap Tourmente, where it seems the son shows up and everything goes to hell. A New Trick to Cheat the Devil cites an article which talks about the play as part of a tradition of prodigal son plays, so there's a source, but on the other hand, there's no home or father that he returns to. Difficult! –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:07, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Meaning of the parable
Should there not be a section on the meaning of the parable?Vorbee (talk) 08:43, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject Bible
This article is of interest to WikiProject Visual arts. Surely there should be a note saying it is of interest to WikiProject Bible?Vorbee (talk) 08:51, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

What evidence do we need to include the second son?
I have one article (I happened to visit a library which had an actual copy) but it may not be enough. I happened to look to see what was said about the second son being jealous, and telling his father he had been faithful so why was the sinful son being honored?— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  18:45, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Carolyn Arends, "Party Favors: The Prodigal's coming home gala was for both sons," Christianity Today, February 2012, p. 44. As long as I have it, here are some proposed additions, unless these are already there. Theologian Kenneth Bailey said those who actually heard the story from Jesus believed the younger son's action was "unthinkable", the ultimate disrespect. The older son's reaction was no better, as he was expected to co-host an event attended by the entire community. Like his brother, the older son is disrespecting his father. The father may be honoring the older son by having him serve, not throwing him his own party. The ending of the story is left for the listener or reader. Jesus told this story to the Pharisees who were like the older brother in that they criticized his association with those they called sinners.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  17:25, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Squander
It is rather interesting that the text did not identify the younger son by name or a age. Is this suggesting the text is not limited to age catigary or time. 2600:100C:B012:A3D7:B8C7:183C:3CB4:F462 (talk) 07:56, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

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Page move
I have moved the page because it is standard in British English and the International version of the books, that the abbreviation for mister is Mr (no dot). – AxSkov ( ☏ ) 02:35, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Merge
I think this, and other "minor harry potter" character pages should be merged into a central page. Fancruft ahoy! (Note: I'm an HP fan myself) - 69.207.32.242 08:23, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree with this. Ollivander has very few appearances and his article is way too short. He should be merged with the Minor Characters. Lord Opeth 22:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Removed Information
The removal by an annonymous IP user (155.144.251.120) of the following passages may not be valid: - His name is possibly a fusion of the Greek name "Evander" ("good man") with "olive"; the tree tied in Greek myth to Athena, the goddess of wisdom. Hermes' wand, the caduceus, may have been made of olive wood. Otherwise, it may be a variation of the sound of the words "all" and "wand". - His name is also an anagram of "An Evil Lord".

The reason stated was that this constituted "original research". While that may be true for the first portion I think it is invalid for the anagram. Rowling's Harry Potter works have a strong history of using anagrams to reveal people or objects true intentions: The Mirror of Erised or Thomas Marvolo Riddle for instance. As such "His name is also an anagram of "An Evil Lord"" should probably be included in the article. Before I reinclude it and start a prospective edit war, though, I'd like to debate its addition here. Coricus 11:37, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

 * There have been no comments, so I'm readding the section. Coricus 04:20, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Name of shop
Is it Ollivanders, Ollivanders' or Ollivander's? Rich Farmbrough, 15:02 23 February 2007 (GMT). (And did he have a brother?) Rich Farmbrough, 15:02 23 February 2007 (GMT).

 * Ollivanders. No apostrophes at all (don't know if there should be, either). We don't know anything about the family, except that they have been in business since 382 BC. Michaelsanders 19:45, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Ollivander->An Evil Lord
I saw on a forum a loooong time ago that Ollivander is An Evil Lord rearranged. Should this be added? --Forgottenlord 03:58, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Fan speculation. Keep it out unless it actually makes its way into the books or J.K.'s website. Wl219 22:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, somebody put it in regardless. I took it out, since there's no source that it's deliberate. And if it is, it's purely ironic, since he does not turn out to be "an evil lord" in all of the series. In other news, Harry Potter is not a trophy rater, Hermione Granger is not about hearing gnomes err and Dumbledore doesn't breed mould. It's just a silly coincidence, folks, nothing more. 82.95.254.249 23:00, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Allegiance?
Should it really say that in the infobox that his allegiance is to his store? What does that mean? In what way is he loyal to his store? It just doesn't make sense. Just because some characters show true allegiance (be it to the Order or DA or the Death Eaters) is no reason that every character has to have an allegiance. He's just a wandmaker, that's all,m a simple shopkeeper. Faithlessthewonderboy 08:41, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

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