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Simon Bamberger

Simon Bamberger (February 27, 1845 – October 6, 1926) was the fourth governor of Utah (1917–1921) after it achieved statehood from territorial status in 1896. Bamberger retains the distinction of being the first non-Mormon, the first Democrat, as well as the first, and to date only, Jewish Governor of Utah. He was also the third Jew ever elected governor of any state, after Washington Bartlett of California and Moses Alexander of Idaho.

Early years
Born on February 27, 1845 in Darmstadt-Eberstadt, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany, Bamberger was the son of Emanuel Bamberger and the former Helen Fleisch. He emigrated to the United States at the age of fourteen, shortly before the American Civil War broke out. Landing in New York City, he embarked on a train to Cincinnati, Ohio.However, Bamberger missed the connection at Columbus and ended up in Indianapolis, Indiana, and, then Terre Haute, Indiana. He remained there until the Civil War ended in 1865, at which point he relocated to St. Louis, Missouri and established a garment manufacturing company with his brother Herman. A few years later, while in Wyoming to collect a debt, Bamberger got word that the business had failed. Figuring he had nothing to lose, he struck out for Utah, which at that time was still a territory and barely settled.

Bamberger married Ida Maas in 1881. They had four children, including Julian Bamberger, who was a member of the Utah Senate from 1932 to 1936.

Utah entrepreneur
Bamberger began operating a small hotel in Ogden, Utah, not far from Salt Lake City. A short time later, an outbreak of smallpox resulted in a quarantine that forced the Union Pacific Railroad to bypass the town, so Bamberger moved on to Salt Lake itself, where he operated the Delmonico Hotel with a partner. In 1872, Bamberger invested in a silver mine, the Centennial Eureka Mine in Juab County. A major vein of silver was struck two years later, making Bamberger a millionaire; for a brief time, he contemplated retiring, but soon got involved in building railroads. He opened various lines linking Salt Lake City to mining operations, but the ventures lost a substantial amount of money, and during this period also built Lagoon, a large amusement park in Farmington, Utah. Another notable venture Bamberger pursued was the establishment of a Jewish agricultural colony in Clarion, Utah. These were the years of the nascent Zionist movement spearheaded by Theodor Herzl, also a German Jew. Herzl believed that Jews, hitherto stigmatized as a rootless, wandering people, urgently needed to get in touch with the soil and develop the agricultural skills that centuries of restrictions in Europe had kept from them. It is quite possible that these ideas influenced Bamberger; unfortunately, however, despite Bamberger's fundraising efforts between 1913 and 1915, the community folded.

Bamberger's Interurban Railroad
Bamberger constructed a railroad, the Salt Lake and Ogden, from Salt Lake City to Ogden in 1908. In 1910 it was converted to electric operation. Eventually the family name was adopted as the corporate name, and it became the Bamberger Railroad. An amusement park and lake were constructed midway between the namesake towns to attract riders and increase business, particularly during the summer months. The Bamberger had good freight business even though it directly competed with the Union Pacific Railroad. Due to the impact of the Depression coupled with the growing use of automobiles riding on new state highways, most U.S. interurbans abandoned operations prior to the start of World War II. The Bamberger, however, survived to the mid-1950s due to a good freight business. It had purchased five modern high speed Brill Company Bullet cars in 1938 to improve schedules and hold its passenger business. During WW2, it constructed new trackage to an army post where it had extensive business. The Bamberger stopped operations in 1955.

Political ascent
During all this time, Bamberger had also been getting increasingly involved with politics. He began on the local level, serving on the Salt Lake City Board of Education between 1898 and 1903. A firm believer in universal, free and public education, Bamberger at one point donated some of his own money in order to keep the public school system solvent. In 1902, he ran for the Utah State Senate as a progressively-oriented Democrat, and won re-election repeatedly. During his time in the legislature, he obtained a reputation as a witty man with a marked capability for achieving substantive results.

In 1912, however, Bamberger was defeated for re-election to the state senate. Four years later, he briefly contemplated running for the United States Senate, since popular election of senators had recently been introduced by means of the 17th Amendment to the United States Constitution in 1913. Instead, he opted to run for governor.

During the election campaign, Brigham H. Roberts, a member of The Council of the Seventy of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), threw his support to Bamberger and called for an end to selecting candidates on the basis of church affiliation. In the primary election, Bamberger defeated Alfred W. McCune, a mine owner. In the general election, the Republican opponent, Nephi L. Morris, made Prohibition the focal point of his campaign; but Bamberger, himself a teetotaler, won easily after pledging unequivocally that he would sign a Prohibition bill.

A progressive governor
Bamberger's governorship, despite lasting only a single term, was marked by a record of legislative achievement impressive by any standards. Having inherited a large budget deficit, he immediately called for an audit of all state agencies and recovered a million dollars in misallocated funds, a considerable sum at the time. Fortunate enough to have the cooperation of a Democratic majority in the legislature, Bamberger embarked on an ambitious reform agenda closely mirroring that of the Progressive Party led by former President Theodore Roosevelt. The touchstones of Progressivism included regulation of industry in the public interest, women's suffrage, restrictions on child labor and the length of the workday, public education—as well as Prohibition, which in those days was inextricably linked with the women's movement.

Accordingly, under Bamberger's leadership, the legislature passed a wide variety of legislation: a Corrupt Practices Act, to control cronyism and kickbacks from utility companies to public officials, and a Labor Organization Act, acknowledging labor's right to unionize (the Federal Government did not enact such legislation until it passed the Wagner Act of 1935). Bamberger's administration was at the vanguard of modern legislation in other ways as well: in addition to fulfilling his pledge to sign a statewide Prohibition bill before the 18th Amendment was ratified nationwide, he brought Utah to the forefront of securities regulation. He pushed through legislation that prefigured some of the most significant, far-reaching 20th-century reforms in the United States. By establishing a commission to register and regulate securities in Utah, Bamberger's administration was nearly fifteen years ahead of the United States Government, which enacted such laws—the Glass–Steagall Act of 1932, the Banking Act of 1933, the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934—only when the exigency of the Great Depression forced it to do so. Bamberger, on the other hand, saw the need for such regulation as a general principle. He also signed laws establishing Workers' Compensation and a state industrial commission to administer it, compulsory high school attendance, and a mine tax that actually contravened his own financial interest. He urged bond passages to improve the state's road network, and convened a special session of the Legislature to ratify the 19th Amendment to the United States Constitution, which passed in 1920 guaranteeing national women's suffrage, a right which Utah women had been granted by unanimous vote of the territorial legislature in 1869 and in the Utah State Constitution in 1895.

Other reforms instituted by Bamberger included the creation of a public health department and a public utilities commission to regulate the price of gas and electricity; a modified line-item veto to assist the governor in curbing pork barrel politics; popular election of judges on a nonpartisan basis; a longer school year; and a water rights commission to supervise water usage in residential development of hitherto rural areas, an especially crucial issue in any Western state.

Last years
All of this was accomplished in a single four-year term, for Bamberger, already 75, declined to run for reelection. He left office in 1921 and returned to managing his business interests. He died on October 6, 1926, and was buried at B'nai Israel Cemetery, Salt Lake City.

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Jenny Eclair

Jenny Eclair (born Jenny Clare Hargreaves; 16 March 1960) is an English comedian, novelist, and actress, best known for her roles in Grumpy Old Women between 2004 and 2007 and in Loose Women in 2011 and 2012.

Early life
Eclair was born to English parents in Kuala Lumpur, Malaya, where her father, Derek Hargreaves, a major in the British Army, had been posted in 1952. Eclair returned to England when she was two years old, and she started her education at Queen Mary school (now AKS Lytham) in Lytham St Annes.

She is said to have adopted the alternative surname Eclair (later her stage name) in her teens, when she was at a disco in Blackpool and pretended to be French. She studied at the Manchester Polytechnic School of Drama (now Manchester Metropolitan University) and joined a cabaret group variously referred to as Kathy Lacreme and the Rum Babas, and Cathy La Crème and the Rum Babas.

After she moved to London, Eclair's first job was at Camberwell Arts College as a life model, which she did for about two terms. She then saw an advert in The Stage looking for novelty acts and found work doing punk poems. In 1989, when she was named the Time Out Cabaret Award winner, she said it "was nice because it's the first time I've ever won without having to run 100 metres balancing an egg on a spoon." In 1995, Eclair was the first woman to win the Perrier Award, now known as the Edinburgh Comedy Awards, at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival.

Television
After an early appearance as a German hotel worker in Auf Wiedersehen Pet Eclair starred in the ITV drama The Bill and appeared in the early 1990s Channel 4 comedy series Packet of Three with Frank Skinner, as well as the follow-up series Packing Them In. In 1995, she became the first female solo winner of the Edinburgh Fringe Festival's Perrier Comedy Award. In 1997, she played "Josie" in the stage play Steaming by Nell Dunn. In 2001, she published her first novel Camberwell Beauty.

Eclair provided alternative commentary of the Eurovision Song Contest 2002 for BBC Choice viewers as part of the channel's Liquid Eurovision Party coverage, as a late replacement for broadcaster Christopher Price who died the month before the contest took place.

Grumpy Old Women
Eclair helped develop, and appeared on, BBC Two's Grumpy Old Women and its various spin-off shows. In 2006, Eclair starred in the stage show Grumpy Old Women Live! with Dillie Keane and Linda Robson. The show was co-written by Eclair and Judith Holder. The spring saw a sell-out national tour, and June and July a run at the Lyric Theatre in London's West End, and the autumn saw another national tour.

Loose Women
From 2011 to 2012, Eclair returned as a panellist on Loose Women, a show she was a panellist on in 2003. On 30 May 2012, she appeared on her last Loose Women show and was replaced by actress Shobna Gulati.

As a contestant
In 2005, Eclair appeared in the reality show Comic Relief Does Fame Academy.

On 18 November 2010, she joined the 2010 series of I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!, finishing in third place behind Stacey Solomon and Shaun Ryder.

In August 2012, she appeared in Celebrity MasterChef on BBC One.

She was a contestant in The Great Pottery Throw Down's December 2022 festive celebrity show.

She was a contestant in the fifteenth series of Taskmaster (aired March–June 2023), alongside comedians Frankie Boyle, Mae Martin, Kiell Smith-Bynoe and Ivo Graham.

Splash!
On 25 January 2014, Eclair took part in the second series of the ITV celebrity diving show Splash!, appearing in the fourth heat.

Note* Scores are out of a possible 30 points in total.

In January 2024, she was a contestant on Richard Osman's House of Games

Guest appearances

 * Room 101 (26 October 2005) – Guest
 * That Sunday Night Show (30 January 2011, 2 October 2011, 19 February 2012) – Panellist
 * The Chase: Celebrity Special (5 November 2011) – Contestant
 * Saturday Cookbook (7 July 2012) – Guest
 * Let's Do Lunch with Gino & Mel (19 July 2012) – Guest
 * Pointless Celebrities (12 December 2012) – Contestant
 * Tipping Point: Lucky Stars (30 June 2013) – Contestant
 * Weekend Kitchen with Waitrose (17 May 2014) – Guest
 * Draw It! (19–23 May 2014) – Contestant
 * Celebrity Fifteen to One (23 December 2014) – Contestant
 * Fifty Shades Uncovered (2015) – Contributor
 * QI – Series M, Episode 8 "Merriment" – (25 December 2015) – Panellist
 * Taskmaster – Series 15 (30 March to 1 June 2023)
 * Richard Osman's House of Games - (1 January to 5 January 2024) - Contestant
 * Beat the Chasers - (16 February 2024) - Contestant

Radio
Until April 2008, Eclair hosted a weekend talk show on LBC 97.3. Her other radio credits include appearing on BBC Radio 4 in the Just a Minute quiz and afternoon plays, various comedy shows on BBC 7 and regularly has covered for Sandi Toksvig on LBC's weekday lunchtime chat show (now defunct).

Between 2014 and 2022, Eclair wrote seven series (36 episodes) of Little Lifetimes, short monologues for female actors, broadcast on BBC Radio 4. As well as Eclair herself, actors including Dame Harriet Walter, Haydn Gwynne, Monica Dolan, Vicki Pepperdine, Imelda Staunton, Anita Dobson and Ruth Sheen have been the monologist.

Eclair has also hosted her own show on the London radio station LBC Radio and starred in various stage productions.

Eclair sat in for Danny Baker on BBC London 94.9 from Tuesday 30 August until Friday 2 September 2011.

Other work
Eclair fronts the Food Standards Agency's salt reduction campaign "Salt, is your food full of it?".

Eclair became an Ambassador for audiobook charity Listening Books in 2019.

Eclair appeared at Derby Playhouse in The Killing of Sister George from 13 September 2008 until 18 October 2008.

Eclair now hosts a podcast called Older and Wider Podcast, co-hosted with Judith Holder, whom she had previously met and worked with on Grumpy Old Women.

Books

 * The Book of Bad Behaviour (non-fiction) Virgin, 1994. ISBN 978-0-86369-856-9
 * Camberwell Beauty (novel) Little, Brown, 2000. ISBN 978-0-316-85318-7
 * Sit-Down Comedy (contributor to anthology, ed Malcolm Hardee & John Fleming) Ebury Press/Random House, 2003. ISBN 978-0-09-188924-1
 * Having a Lovely Time (novel) Little, Brown, 2005. ISBN 978-0-7515-3605-8
 * Life, Death and Vanilla Slices (novel) Sphere, 2012. ISBN 978-1847444936
 * Moving (novel), Sphere, 2015. ISBN 9780751550955 (Italian translation: Le stanze dei ricordi, Sperling & Kupfer, 2017. ISBN 978-8820061531)
 * Inheritances (novel), Sphere, 2020 ISBN 978-0751567038
 * The Writing on the Wall (novel) Hachette Children's Group, 2022. ISBN 978-1510108288

Personal life
Eclair is married to Geof Powell as of July 2017. She previously stated that marriages are "naff". She is the mother of the playwright Phoebe Eclair-Powell (b. 1990).

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Mohamed?
Wouldn't it be in arabic, does arabic have an M?

I had the same thought. See the entry on Arabic Alphabet. The "M" sound does have a corresponding grapheme but it in no ways looks like the roman character "M". So whoever came up with the reference to Mohamed was either a convert or a hoaxter.

I've reverted the article, as the Mohammed legend is reference on various pages. See Google for details. Out of curiosity, does aramaic have a letter which resemblesLatin 'M', and if so, was that the character used to write the first initial of Mary's name? If not, the Christian legend needs to be removed too.

Of course, since both are merely legends and not fact, I would argue that both should remain. Taking away one when both are probably not true smacks of dogmatism.

Phil webster 21:02, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

In the year of Jesus' birth, that entire area was under the control of the Roman empire, and the common language was Greek, not Aramaic or Arabic. Jesus and his mother both primarily would have spoken Greek, although surely they would have spoken Aramaic as well. Aramaic was more of a religious language at the time. (Comparable to Latin in the early Catholic church.) What would Mary's name have been in Greek? The capital "mu" does look exactly like the Latin M. Visitor:Aaron Hagans 03:59, 10/27/07

Photos
There are too many photos in this article and they're all of mackerel tabbies. Per WP:NOT, Wikipedia is not a collection of photos, so most of these should go. We should really only have photos that clearly display the different tabby patterns (mackerel, classic, ticked, spotted). For any more pictures, people can go look at Commons:Category:Tabby cats.  howch e  ng   {chat} 21:47, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * There are too many photos examples. The photos are taking away from the information contained on this page. SmoreNooit (talk) 02:32, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Asian Tabby?
Is there such a tabby called an Asain Tabby? I'm because I think 1 of my cats is an Asian tabby. she has the charcteristic of an Asian cat (skinny, very loud) Angelofdeath275 21:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No, tabby only refers to the pattern of stripes you see on a cat, and there are only four.  howch e  ng   {chat} 22:01, 16 October 2006 (UTC) there are only three the red ones the blue ones and the F***ing white ones no asain ones so stop

One more photo
About remove my image.. I don't understand what is the problem. It is my photo and it says so. I thought it would be nice to see a tabby cat at the cat Show. Klarissae 00:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You've got a cute cat, Klarissae, and that always makes for a nice image, but the trouble is that everybody wants to upload a picture of their cat, and if everyone did that, the page would turn into yet another photo gallery of cute cat pictures. Even this in itself might not be so awful (though definitely not encyclopedic), if it weren't for the fact that pictures take up a lot of memory space and people with slow connections have trouble opening really big pages. For what it's worth, I nearly re-reverted and put your picture back up before I realized we had another good shot of a mackerel tabby, right at the top of the page. Buck Mulligan 02:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer, I understand better now.. This is not my cat, but he really impressed judges at the Cat Show, so I photographed him. Klarissae 11:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Buff Tabby
Could some information on the buff tabby coloration be added? 68.43.152.39 20:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * A buff tabby is the same as a cream tabby, which is a dilute orange tabby. This not a different tabby pattern, just a color. This article only covers patterns, not colors.  howcheng  {chat} 21:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Attabiyah
Source for this? Brownturkey (talk) 19:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Any decent dictionary that shows word etymology will have this. For example, . I'll add the footnote if you really want.  howcheng  {chat} 23:47, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Tabby cat article
The Tabby cat article appears to be totally broken... seems vandalized but there seems no history... and the talk page redirects here. I don't know Wikipedia well enough to fix it... or about Tabby cats to write an article...Darkpoet (talk) 16:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

 * Note Admin moved the title back to Tabby cat on  3 April 2009 (UTC)--Caspian blue 02:55, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Tabby coat pattern → Tabby cat — The previous move was unilaterally done without discussion. This article is about cats with a "tabby pattern", not about "coat patterns of tabbies (any cat kinds).--Caspian blue 16:37, 28 March 2009 (UTC) — Caspian blue 16:37, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Survey

 * Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with  or  , then sign your comment with  . Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

 * Support - Caspian blue 16:37, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. "Tabby coat pattern" implies that there are other tabby animals, and the article is only about cats. Also, according to dictionary.com, the only other creatures that might be described by the term "tabby" are women.  howcheng  {chat} 04:12, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:

The move from Tabby cats to the current title, "Tabby coat pattern" seems too specific and odd...

Cats with a sprite pattern are referred to as "tabby cat", so I don't think the previous title is incorrect, since "tabby" can refer to various "cat" types. I want the article title to go back to the original. I don't see any indication to justify the move in Project Cat.--Caspian blue 16:38, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Same issue for Tortoiseshell coat pattern and Bicolor coat pattern. Personally I prefer just Tabby, Bicolor etc. Or Tabby (coat pattern), Bicolor (coat pattern) etc. for disambiguation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dodo bird (talk • contribs) 2009-03-29T05:47:46 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the information. I restored the original titles since User:Cats rule has not initiated any discussion nor notified the community of his intention over the multiple cat-related article divided by cat's coat. But I could not revert it back to the original of the article due to another's test.--Caspian blue 06:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

patterns
I see mentions of ticked, and mackerel but I don't see anyone mentioning mitted tabbies. my cat is a mitted mackerel tabby. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.88.56 (talk • contribs) 23:15, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I assume by "mitted" you mean that your cat appears to have "mitts" (like socks). That's not a tabby pattern, that's an interaction with the color suppression gene (see bicolor cat for more details).  howcheng  {chat} 02:13, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Gallery
I just wanted to add a little gallery with some tabby cats photos but it has been constantly reverted. Someone thinks it is good?

If someone, please support me by adding a  tag below. Thanks -- MisterWiki  talking! :-D  - 13:34, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Oppose - There are galleries already at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tabby_cats. - BilCat (talk) 13:38, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose. First of all, your photos don't really add anything to the article. There are four tabby patterns and we have decent photos that illustrate them. One of yours you added to ostensibly display the M on the forehead, but the lead photo already does that well. The second photo, the calico tabby, is really just superfluous. As discussed elsewhere on this talk page, we are trying very hard to keep this page from being a collection of people's pet photos. If you have photos that show the tabby patterns better than what's already here, then I'm sure nobody will object if you replace them, but don't just add photos because you want your cats in the article. Thanks.  howcheng  {chat} 17:07, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

 * OK: I think there's noo need to extend this discussion. -- MisterWiki  talking! :-D  - 20:27, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Roman mosaic
11:13, 25 April 2010 86.30.84.28 11:13, 25 April 2010
 * is it worth noting that a Roman mosaic portrays a tabby that has caught a bird? In the Spanish language, tabbies are called 'roman cats' BV 25.4.10

article vandalised by Asher 196
I noticed the article has been constantly vandalised by Asher196 who inserts the Bombay Cat as an example of tabby patern (the breed is in fact solid black) and writes that torbie effect affects all colours on three- or bi-coloured cats when in reality the white never has any pattern.

talking of my tabby
I have a mix of a mackrael and a spotted tabby. She "talks" alot wen she is around me..there are various meows and almost a bark sound. Does anyone have any idea how to interpret the meows? I have been on several sites trying to inquire about their meows. If anyone knows of a better site please e-mail me or answer back on here. Spidergrl3 (talk) 22:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Statistical distribution
The article currently says that classic tabbies are the most common. My experience doesn't bear this out. I've only seen two or three in my whole life and many dozens of mackerel tabbies with a few spotted. There's no citation to this, either. Does anyone have data on this? Ace of Sevens (talk) 15:12, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I was curious about this, too. Is it regional?  I"m in the United States and have never seen a 'classic' tabby.  Are they more common in Britain, maybe? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:28, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If you go to cat adoption events, you'll see plenty of them. I have one myself. I don't know about how common they are as compared to mackerels, however. — howcheng  {chat} 20:15, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I volunteer at a humane society in the US and have seen hundreds of mackerel tabbies but maybe 30 total classic tabbies including the three classic kittens I am now fostering. Risssa (talk) 02:21, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Response to very old comment. Some of the stuff on this page is confusing, incorrect, or poorly written. I corrected the info on classic tabby, using references. The allele of the classic tabby is fairly common, existing in 80% of modern cats. But it is recessive, so classic tabby is not phenotype is much less common. Yes, I started reading this page after adopting a classic tabby Maine coon, and realizing that I had never noticed this pattern before. Nereocystis (talk) 22:20, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

File:Cat November 2010-1a.jpg to appear as POTD soon
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Cat November 2010-1a.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on October 14, 2012. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2012-10-14. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks! — howcheng  {chat} 11:24, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Brindle
If anyone wants to help at brindle, we seem to be having an etymological discussion there. Brindle being an archaic word for "tabby," apparently there is some confusion between cats and the modern color pattern discussed at the other article. Montanabw (talk) 22:03, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Black tabbies
Black tabbies are supposed to have dark brown coats with black tabby markings. Is this the place to mention them or should that information go somewhere else? I volunteer at a humane society and am currently fostering a black tabby kitten. Out of the three or four thousand cats I've seen over the years, she is only the second black tabby. And not only that, but she is a classic black tabby rather than mackerel. Risssa (talk) 02:28, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Examples of each pattern?
IMO it would be good if the article had a couple of examples of each of the different variations on the tabby pattern (more than one for each to make it easier to know what matters for the pattern classification and what can be ignored). --TiagoTiago (talk) 00:39, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't that depend on which cat-fancier's club has specified the characteristics? I imagine that it could be difficult to get a worldwide view of the matter. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 12:30, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The entry lists the four basic patterns and describes them, I think that is sufficient information for our purposes. I agree with TiagoTiago that additional photos would be good.  Also, what makes you think the worldwide view differs from this entry in Wikipedia? Risssa (talk) 21:36, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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Etymology Section
This article appears to contain reliable, unbiased information and facts seem to be thoroughly backed by citations. However, the words and phrasing of the 'Etymology' section are far too similar, and at many points identical, to the source from which the information comes. Despite the fact that the source is cited, this direct copying and close paraphrasing still constitutes a form of plagiarism and should be revised. This section would also benefit from being broken into multiple sentences, rather than consisting of a long stream of clauses and commas as it does now. Rrubanowitz (talk) 00:41, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

What about the orange tabby?
No orange tabbies illustrated or discussed here. Keagiles (talk) 19:51, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

 * Hi, I just added something about orange tabbies! Please take a look and let me know what you think. Vanillabean43 (talk) 21:45, 5 March 2019 (UTC)sourced
 * And I removed it.,as it was poorly written and completely unsourced. poorly sourced Meters (talk) 21:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Meters -- that's unfortunate to hear that you think it was poorly written. It was not unsourced -- I did include a citation. Did that not come through? Vanillabean43 (talk) 21:52, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * My mistake. The first line was sourced, but anything called "8 Fun Facts" is not likely to be reliable source. Meters (talk) 21:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Meters -- understood! Sadly there seems to be a dearth of scholarly articles on orange tabbies (surely someone must be doing a PhD on this), and most of them are focused on mere cuteness. But I have found 2 additional sources which I will add. One of which is from the BBC which should hopefully prove more reliable than "8 fun facts". Please let me know if the revision, which I will do shortly, looks ok to you. Thank you! Vanillabean43 (talk) 22:14, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed it again. I do not believe that materiel belongs in the section, if in the article at all. That section is about the genetics of the Tabby pattern, and you are adding a very general overview of the genetics of the orange coat. This appears to be more of an attempt to get a picture of your pet in the article. Meters (talk) 22:21, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Tabby Stripes
I was wondering if you should talk about how tabby stripes' coloring attributes to their base color, and whether or not it can be lighter than the base, as well as whether cats can have multiple of the variations.

71.207.156.166 (talk) 20:24, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

C'mon
This page is abysmal. There's no discussion or examples of the characteristic markings of different types of Tabby cat. It's too short by 75% and seems to contain only pictures of editors' pets. Weep for the value of the internet as a source of information, because the avalanche of its demise starts here.

2603:9001:2303:4F5F:BC6C:7FEB:F8B:8E99 (talk) 23:40, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

 * Helpful. Lindsey40186 (talk) 16:09, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Orange tabby
I added a very basic template for the orange tabby section. I only added it because this article didn't have anything about it. Be warned, it is very basic, messy, and unprofessional, and needs to be fixed. I would appreciate if someone could go and add citations, a photo, and revise the text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:300:8100:AFC0:108:A48A:F064:6E4E (talk) 16:41, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

"Majin cat" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Majin cat and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 28 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 20:20, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Is 'Attitude' an appropriate section?
This article seems to be about the coat pattern, does the pattern make a difference to a cat's demeanor?

I'm just a casual reader but it felt out of place to me. 202.169.103.37 (talk) 02:38, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

 * It's a valid question. I think the reason it's included is because many people do still presume it's a breed or sub-breed of cat, even when they are corrected, and may have preconceived notions about how a Tabby cat acts. Hence, why the section goes on to say that there isn't a scientific link between behaviour and coat pattern. Lindsey40186 (talk) 23:09, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm just a drive-by on this issue, but even given your explanation, would Behavior be a better heading than Attitude, which seems to refer to something else (and is a bit anthropomorphic)? All of my cats definitely have attitude (in every sense of the word), but I'm not sure that's the best word to use in an encyclopedic article.  General Ization Talk  23:16, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I think Behavior would be a much better heading. I'm not entirely sure what was being measured or how. I can check the citation and see if there is something there. I assume the surveys would just be owners/veterinarians, but wouldn't put that in without confirmation. Lindsey40186 (talk) 16:08, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, while we're talking about that section, what does "measures can be taken from surveys through three different activities" mean?  What kind of measures, and with what goal?  (Maybe "measurements" is what was meant, but measurements of what?) What are "surveys through ... activities"? All in all, I think this entire sentence is basically meaningless.  General Ization  Talk  23:39, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Lead images
The addition of File:Tabby Cat laying down.jpg to the lead is not an improvement. We have a good lead image, and this image is just a bad picture of someone's pet. Meters (talk) 21:58, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Agreed - Having two lead pictures is not standard and the original photo is higher quality than the second photo that was added. Spongeworthy93 (talk) 23:17, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Adoption of orange versus classic tabby
I deleted a confusing section on adoption of classic tabby versus orange tabby. A classic tabby may be orange (or not), so this paragraph does not make sense. The original linked article compares adoption rates of various coat colors. It also compares adoption rates of various coat patterns. However, the article does not differentiate adoption rates of different tabby patterns. It compares tabby with bicolor, torbie, etc. While this article is fascinating, I don't see how it is relevant in an article about Tabby cats Nereocystis (talk) 22:40, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Deletion of orange tabby and baby Jesus
I deleted a paragraph claiming a story about baby Jesus being comforted by an orange tabby. This story claims to be an old legend, but there isn't a good quality reference to the age of the legend. The only reference is to Purrington Post, which does not seem reliable. If such a reference is found, we can consider placing restoring the legend under an appropriate place. Nereocystis (talk) 23:04, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I've found several google search results returned when you search "baby Jesus & tabby cat". I think if there is significant coverage all sharing the same story, we could notate it and include it. Eruditess (talk) 01:03, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Web search results are not soures. Nor will be random pet websites regurgitating claims from other such sites or from the old version of the WP article.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  14:02, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Reduce links to pet publications, increase science articles
It's time to remove references which are pet publications, web sites, etc, and replace them with articles in scientific journals and other sourced scientific publications. I have made a few changes, and make a few more changes when I can. The pet publications often misstate the scientific research. The error is compounded when the Wikipedia article misstates the pet article. For example, current article (soon to be changed) states that there was a study of tabby cats which found five genetic clusters... The study was of domestic cats, not limited to tabby patterns. Nereocystis (talk) 23:51, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

 * If you want to improve the article, knock yourself out. Pet websites are barely reliable sources anyway, so replacing it with scientific articles and the like would be much appreciated. SilverTiger12 (talk) 02:28, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Many of those sites are not reliable at all.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  14:01, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

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Cavicularin

Cavicularin is a natural phenolic secondary metabolite isolated from the liverwort Cavicularia densa. This macrocycle is unusual because it was the first compound isolated from nature displaying optical activity solely due to the presence of planar chirality and axial chirality. The specific rotation for (+)-cavicularin is +168.2°. It is also a very strained molecule. The para-substituted phenol ring is bent about 15° out of planarity, adopting a somewhat boat-like geometry. This type of angle strain in aromatic compounds is normally reserved for synthetic cyclophanes.

The liverwort was obtained from Mount Ishizuchi in the district of Shikoku. The material was dried for one day, ground to a powder and 5 grams were refluxed in methanol for 4 months [reference needed] to yield 2.5 mg (0.049%) of cavicularin after column chromatography and preparative TLC.

Total synthesis
In 2005 and again in 2011, the compound was prepared by total synthesis together with the unstrained compound riccardin C. In 2013, several other syntheses were reported for it and a racemic synthesis.

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Pride & Glory (album)

Pride & Glory is the only studio album by American rock band Pride & Glory. The band was fronted by guitarist/vocalist Zakk Wylde, best known for his prior work as a member of Ozzy Osbourne's band. The tracks "Troubled Wine", "Losin' Your Mind", and "Horse Called War" were all released as singles. Pride & Glory was re-released in 1999 on Spitfire Records with a bonus disc of rare and unreleased material.

Overview
Pride & Glory was received with surprise by many listeners, with a sound highly influenced by Southern rock which was a complete departure from Wylde's previous work with metal icon Ozzy Osbourne. He has said that there was a conscious effort to make an album that fans wouldn't immediately associate with Osbourne's music. The album "felt more like Cream, three guys in a room doing some improv, meets The Allman Brothers. Or even The Jimi Hendrix Experience, a power trio going through a ton of jamming", said Wylde of the short-lived project, adding that the album was largely recorded live in the studio with few overdubs added later. During the same time period, Wylde was toying with the idea of joining Guns N' Roses, and his brief involvement with that band as well as the Pride and Glory project led to him giving up his spot in Osbourne's band. Wylde has said that many observers expressed the sentiment that it was very unwise to leave the security of Osbourne's band to essentially start again as a club act with Pride and Glory. "I'm not in this for a rock star lifestyle. I'm in it to play my guitar," he said of the criticism he received. Following the release of the 1993 live album Live & Loud and Osbourne's subsequent farewell tour, Wylde believed a new band was his only way forward, saying in 1994 "It's been over a year since I toured with (Osbourne) and I didn't want to be in a rocking chair before I made my own record." Osbourne "understood what I had to do", according to the guitarist.

Recording
Wylde selected producer Rick Parashar due to his prior work on the Temple of the Dog and Blind Melon albums. "Those records are really organic in the sense that there's really not much production – you're hearing the band, just like those classic '70s recordings", he said. The recording of Pride & Glory was a pleasant experience for all involved, with Wylde recalling "Looking back, this record was a ton of laughs and I remember waking up every day, having a coffee and looking forward to getting back in there. Or if we'd been berserkin' all night, I might have cracked open another cold one, picked up the acoustic and come out with something like 'Lovin' Woman'." He has listed the album tracks "Sweet Jesus", "Fadin' Away", "The Chosen One", "Cry Me a River", "Lovin' Woman", and "Losin' Your Mind" as his favorites from the album.

In the studio, Wylde used essentially the same gear for the album he had been using in Osbourne's band since 1991's No More Tears. "It was pretty much just two Les Pauls, 'The Grail' and 'The Rebel', basically my Ozzy gear. The same as on No More Tears. I didn't really bother changing anything. I have friends that are complete tone-chasers and gear hounds… while for me, if it works fine, let's use it again", he said. Wylde used a Gibson Dove for the album's acoustic parts. Marshall amps dating from the early 1980s, Wylde's personal preference, were used on the album: "That's what's great about those Marshalls. You plug in, they work and you're ready to record. I used my Dunlop wah - it was probably the standard as my signature one didn't come out 'til later. I think I used a Boss SD-1 for extra distortion; that was about it."

Wylde wrote the song "The Chosen One" as a tribute to his father, a war hero who died shortly after the album's release. Upon hearing the song, Wylde jokingly said his father punched him in the face and told him the song was terrible. "Then he said, 'Go upstairs and clean your room, then get out of the house because you and [wife] Barbaranne are staying at the Ramada tonight!' He told me next time I wrote him a song to make it better than that pile of shit, haha!", said Wylde.

The 1999 reissue features a cover of The Beatles' "Come Together". Said Wylde of the song: "I think we listened to the original in the control room, talking about how great the recording was and how flat and dead the drums were, though the rest of the band are really in your face and present. I started noodling on the piano, doing the 'Come Together' thing and then we just tracked in D minor. The saddest of all keys! We were drinking and having a good time, so we figured we might as well add that in there, too." Wylde said he preferred adding several cover songs to the reissue because he wanted to save his new original songs for his next album. "A lot of the time, people don't actually get round to hearing bonus tracks. Plus covers are fun to do anyway, playing music made by bands you love…", he said.

Reception
The album has received predominantly positive reviews. Guitar World gave the album a positive review, calling it "a wild, wide-ranging romp" while applauding the "headbanging heavy metal stampers (that) rub shoulders with swampy Southern rockers. AllMusic has referred to the album as "a surprisingly solid debut" while complimenting Wylde's guitar playing and songwriting.

Track listing
All songs written by Zakk Wylde, except where noted.

Reissue track listing
All songs written by Zakk Wylde, except where noted.

Personnel
Pride & Glory
 * Zakk Wylde – lead and backing vocals, guitars, piano, mandolin, banjo, harmonica
 * James LoMenzo – bass, backing vocals, double bass, twelve-string guitar on "Fadin' Away"
 * Brian Tichy – drums, percussion

Additional musicians
 * Paul Buckmaster – musical arrangements on "The Chosen One", "Sweet Jesus", and "Fadin' Away"
 * Featuring the Seattle Symphony conducted by Paul Buckmaster

Production
 * Produced by Rick Parashar
 * Engineered and mixed by Rick Parashar and Jon Plum
 * "Losin' Your Mind" and "Toe'n the Line" mixed by Kelly Gray, Rick Parashar, and Jon Plum
 * "Cry Me a River" produced by Pride & Glory and Greg Goldman, engineered and mixed by Greg Goldman with assistant engineer John Aguto
 * Mastered by George Marino

title: Pride & Glory (album)