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Mace: The Dark Age

Mace: The Dark Age is a fighting video game released by Atari Games for arcade machines in 1997 and later ported by Midway Games to the Nintendo 64. Like many fighting games of the time, its style is marked by extreme violence, with characters graphically slaying defeated opponents. Utilizing 3dfx Voodoo chips for the hardware, the game received attention for its cutting-edge graphics and turned Atari a profit in the arcades. Critical response to the gameplay was much less enthusiastic.

Gameplay
The game is similar to Bio F.R.E.A.K.S. and the Mortal Kombat series. As in Mortal Kombat, when a character wins both rounds, they can perform an execution move on the enemy.

Similar to its contemporary Dead or Alive, in lieu of ring-outs Mace: The Dark Age has arenas which are surrounded by dangerous terrain, causing damage to any character who goes out of bounds. An evade button allows characters to step backward or forward into the 3D environments.

Plot
In the 12th century, a collection of nations called the Covenant of Seven send their best warriors to kill Asmodeus, a practitioner of the dark arts who wields the fabled Mace of Tanis. The Mace is imbued with necropotic energy, offering those who wield it a tantalizing promise of ever-lasting life and unbridled power. Leaders from the East sense that Asmodeus is plotting and send their own warriors to eliminate him before it is too late.

Development
Mace: The Dark Age took roughly two years to develop. The developers created 30 characters, then narrowed them down to a lineup of 11 through focus groups of teenagers. The latest motion capture technology was used during the game's development. A member of the Atari team who happened to be in the Society for Creative Anachronism did all the motion capture acting.

The game was originally released on the arcade machines using the 3Dfx Voodoo graphics card, the same technology powering San Francisco Rush. The 3Dfx technology was cheaper to develop for than a proprietary system, and Atari used the savings to sell the game at a lower cost to arcade operators.

Besides the Nintendo 64 port, a PlayStation version of the game was also planned but never released.

Reception
Although the arcade release of Mace: The Dark Age was a commercial success, the game garnered average critical reviews. Critics discussed the Nintendo 64 version in the context of the console's dismal fighting game library at the time, and claimed Mace was the best of them only by default; for example, Next Generation stated that "The best fighter to hit Nintendo 64, Mace: The Dark Age, would still get pounded into the ground by any PlayStation or Saturn fighter game." An exception was Jeff Gerstmann of GameSpot, who considered it inferior to Dark Rift, saying it "looks fantastic but still plays poorly." This was a common lament, as critics widely agreed that the game's graphics are excellent    but the gameplay is mediocre due to issues such as uninteresting moves  and rough controls. Kelly Rickards of Electronic Gaming Monthly elaborated, "The combos, while cool to look at (like everything else in this game), don't flow smoothly and only seem to work when much flail action is being performed. The whole feel of the control interface seemed to be locked in a yesteryear-zone, back when the 3-D fighting game pioneers were still perfecting their art."

In terms of visuals, Mace: The Dark Age was noted for stage interactions with elements such as water, and damaging areas such as lava. Next Generation reviewed the arcade version, stating that "Detail and depth on the order of a Virtua Fighter take years of development and practice, and Atari Games has a good start. Mace is a beautifully designed game with attractive characters and bodes well for Mace II." Electronic Gaming Monthly later commented that "If your local arcade had this machine in, then you probably took a close look at it at one point or another. ... It is clearly one of the most visually impressive fighting games around, boasting smooth animations and large, colorful characters."

Critics did praise the arena designs, particularly the interactive objects and danger zones,   with GamePro, one of the few to give Mace a wholly positive review, applauding the "dynamic details that not only look great but add to the fun and playability of the game." Some also complimented the fatalities,  while opinions on the soundtrack were wildly divergent. IGN and GamePro both remarked that it fit the mood of the game well, while Next Generation called it "awful" and Gerstmann said it was simply "decent". The quality of the conversion from arcade to N64 was considered good by most reviewers,  though a number of them complained of bad frame rates. According to Matt Casamassina of IGN, "Possibly because of the attention to detail, character animation is sometimes choppy and, because of that, gameplay suffers."

In 2011, Complex included it on the list of ten "most blatant Mortal Kombat ripoffs", adding, "If anything, it was like a more brutal version of Soul Edge."

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Noone -> no one
Showing my age, there is also Peter Noone from Herman's Hermits. Blank Verse  ∅  16:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Finishing off
The instructions said that I had finished the spell-checking and was supposed to strike out something, but I couldn't figure out what to strike out. Wouldn't it be better to more from new to old after the check was done? Blank Verse  ∅  16:49, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Both! I will. r3m0t talk 17:31, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

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Neifi Pérez

Neifi Neftali Pérez (born June 2, 1973) is a Dominican former Major League baseball player. He was a switch hitter who threw right-handed. During his career, he played with the Colorado Rockies, Kansas City Royals, San Francisco Giants, Chicago Cubs, and Detroit Tigers.

Pérez was originally signed by the Colorado Rockies in 1992. Frequently praised for his defensive skills, Pérez reached the major leagues in 1996 and became the Rockies' shortstop for good in 1997. Over the next three years, he scarcely missed a game and won a Gold Glove in 2000. In 2001, he was traded to the Kansas City Royals, where he also played in 2002. The trade proved to be unpopular with both teams, and Pérez joined the San Francisco Giants for 2003 and 2004. He lost his starting job during the 2004 season and was released during that year. Pérez then signed with the Chicago Cubs, whom he finished the season with and spent most of the next two years with. He was the Cubs' starting shortstop in 2005 but was used as a reserve player in 2006 before getting traded to the Detroit Tigers during the year. He finished his career in 2007 with the Tigers. As a Tiger, he turned a double play which saved Justin Verlander's no-hitter, but he also had a series of positive tests for amphetamines which effectively ended his career.

Colorado Rockies
As a child, Pérez played for Liga Mercedes in the Dominican Republic. The Colorado Rockies signed him as an undrafted free agent in 1992 at the age of 18. Assigned to the single-A Bend Rockies for the 1993 season, Pérez posted a .260 batting average and stole 19 bases. The Rockies, confident in Pérez's potential, promoted him to the single-A Central Valley Rockies. Pérez exhibited strong defensive skills, executing the first unassisted triple play in the history of the California League in a game against the Bakersfield Blaze. Pérez batted just .239 on the year but made the California League All-Star game and was considered to be one of the Rockies' top prospects on the basis of his defense. Rockies player development chief Dick Balderson expressed confidence that Pérez's hitting would improve: "He's got all the skills...He's just in a rush right now, like most young guys."

Pérez moved up to the double-AA New Haven Ravens where he batted .253 and improved his fielding percentage to .967 and was considered the Rockies' top prospect at shortstop. The Rockies promoted Pérez to triple-A Colorado Springs Sky Sox at the end of the 1995 season with the intention of bringing him up to the major leagues the next year. In fact, although Pérez was invited to 1996 spring training, he spent most of year with the Sky Sox and was not called up until the end of August, making his major league debut on August 31. In his season with the Sky Sox, his batting average had improved to .316. Commented Rockies manager Don Baylor: "He is the guy who had the year that traditionally earns a call up. I want to see what he can do." Pérez hit .156 over 17 games and returned to the Sky Sox for the beginning of the 1997 season.

Although invited to 1997 spring training Pérez did not make the 25-man roster and once again returned to the Sky Sox for the first half of the season, where he batted .363 with a .975 fielding percentage. In mid-June the Rockies summoned him in place of Jason Bates, this time for good. Pérez batted .291 on the year and gradually replaced Walt Weiss as the starting shortstop. Pérez remained Colorado's primary shortstop for the next three seasons (1998–2000), appearing in all but five games. His batting average hovered around .280 (.274, .280, .287) and he averaged thirty doubles a year. He led all National League shortstops in assists in all three seasons. His fielding percentage never dropped below .975 and he won a Gold Glove for the 2000 season. Despite his later reputation for anemic hitting, Pérez managed several offensive feats with the Rockies. On July 25, 1998, he hit for the cycle against the St. Louis Cardinals. In 1999 he tied Bobby Abreu and José Offerman for the most triples in Major League Baseball with 11. Pérez got off to a strong start in 2001 but there was doubt over his future with Colorado. The Rockies had offered him a 4-year, $17 million contract which he had rejected; accepting a 1-year $3.55 million deal via arbitration. In the end the Rockies dealt Pérez to the Kansas City Royals as part of a three-way deal in which the Royals sent Jermaine Dye to the Oakland Athletics who then sent Mario Encarnación, José Ortiz and Todd Belitz to Colorado. Denver Post sportswriter Woody Paige criticized the move, calling Pérez "the best shortstop in the National League" who was "an extraordinary defensive player, a capable offensive player and a classy team player."

Kansas City Royals
Pérez arrived in Kansas City amid widespread anger over the departure of fan-favorite Dye. Facing off against Dye in one of his first games as a Royal, Pérez took the low-key approach: "I'm just going to play my game." Pérez finished out the 2001 season in Kansas City, batting .241 over 49 games. Pérez started at shortstop for the 2002 season but his batting average sank to .236, leading sportswriters to question whether the rarefied air at Coors Field had inflated Pérez's numbers. Pérez also may have sealed his fate by refusing to enter a late-season game at the request of manager Tony Peña. At the end of the year the Royals were looking to move Pérez and his $4.1 million salary; he was eventually claimed off waivers by the San Francisco Giants and signed a two-year, $4.25 million contract.

San Francisco Giants
At the Giants Pérez hoped for a fresh start; rumors had swirled in Kansas City about problems in the clubhouse, and it was no secret that the trade had been deeply unpopular in both Denver and Kansas City. Commented Pérez: "I feel happy here. I like the National League. I was happy in Colorado and I am happy here." Pérez hit .256 over the course of the 2003 season; an improvement on his previous season but a far cry from the Colorado days. Pérez returned for the 2004 season, but the situation in San Francisco had become uncomfortable. Although signed as a starter at second base, he quickly became backup to Ray Durham, while he lost out at shortstop to Deivi Cruz. His batting average slumped to .232. He had a staunch defender in manager Felipe Alou, but in the end he was the "odd man out" and the Giants released him on August 14, 2004. Almost immediately the Chicago Cubs signed Pérez to a minor-league contract.

Chicago Cubs
The Cubs assigned Pérez to the triple-A Iowa Cubs, but he played only ten games before being called up to the expanded roster on September 1. Pérez became a much needed spark plug in the lineup, going 6 for 6 in his first 6 at-bats as a Cub and providing a needed backup to the ailing Nomar Garciaparra. In 23 games with the Cubs he hit .371. The Cubs re-signed Pérez to a one-year contract worth $1 million, with up to an additional $1.5 million in bonuses.

Manager Dusty Baker made Pérez the everyday shortstop in 2005 to replace Garciaparra, mainly on the strength of his defensive skills. His impatience at the plate led to a walk percentage of 3.1%, the worst in the National League. Pérez finished the season batting .274, and his play at short won rave reviews from Baker: "It's hard to play better shortstop defensively than Neifi has." In the off-season the Cubs signed Pérez to a two-year, $5 million contract.

For the 2006 season Pérez lost the starting job at shortstop to Ronny Cedeño, and found himself playing a mixture of second base and short behind Cedeño and Todd Walker. Meanwhile, Pérez's batting average sagged to .254, while his on-base percentage, never high, had fallen to .266. In late August the Cubs traded him to the Detroit Tigers for minor-league catcher Chris Robinson. The Tigers were seeking a replacement for their injured second baseman, Plácido Polanco, who had separated his shoulder.

Detroit Tigers
Pérez arrived in Detroit during the pennant chase which ended with their loss in the 2006 World Series to the St. Louis Cardinals. Pérez faced almost immediate criticism from fans after getting off to a .157 start, and manager Jim Leyland felt obliged to come to his defense: "These guys making a big deal about Neifi Pérez and Omar Infante don't know what they're talking about. They got no clue." Pérez made 21 appearances during the regular season, with a batting average of .200 and an OBP of .235. He appeared in three games during the playoffs but never reached base.

The Tigers retained Pérez for the 2007 season, although Leyland acknowledged that Pérez would have to improve his play: "I recommended that we trade for him. I take responsibility. I don't want people to get the wrong impression. I like Neifi Pérez, but he did not perform well. It's that simple." Pérez, however, continued to struggle, posting a .172 batting average over the 33 games he played in a Tigers' uniform. One bright spot came on June 12, 2007, when he saved Justin Verlander's no-hitter against the Milwaukee Brewers by turning a possible base hit into an inning-ending double play.

On July 6, 2007, Pérez was suspended 25 games by MLB for a second positive test for amphetamines; on August 3 he was suspended an additional 80 games for a third positive test. On October 31, 2007, Pérez filed for free agency, ending his association with Detroit.

Possible comeback
In February 2008 there was talk of the Colorado Rockies signing Pérez to a minor league contract worth $750,000, which manager Clint Hurdle characterized as a "lifeline." In the end Colorado backed out, citing younger players competing for the same position.

Foreign
Pérez has also had a significant foreign career. He participated in the Caribbean Series and was named the Series MVP in 1998 and 1999. In 2012, he was inducted into the Caribbean Baseball Hall of Fame. He played in the Dominican Professional Baseball League for Leones del Escogido with personal success, batting over .300. In 2004, he helped Escogido score 18 runs in an inning. In 2006, he played in the Dominican Republic-Puerto Rico All-Star Game.

Legacy
Pérez's poor offense after Colorado traded him to the Royals overshadowed his defensive skills. He was widely criticized because of his low on-base percentage (career .297) and lack of power. Nate Silver, a baseball statistician who analyzed Pérez's statistics (specifically value over replacement player (VORP)), concluded that Pérez had a negative impact on the teams he played for. Chicago sportswriter Bruce Miles called Pérez "one of the worst offensive players in baseball history."

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Davey Winder

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE. Golbez 03:14, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Davey_Winder
Vanity - being a journalist doesn't make somebody noteworthy.Wordmonkey 16:43, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: The article fails to establish notability.  He's a freelancer for PC and porn mags.  Ok.  So, how many awards won?  How many landmark investigations?  How many in-depth series on CGI porn and computer-assisted copulation has he done?  Geogre 17:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete notability not established. --Etacar11 23:55, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Talk:John Morton (American politician)

Nationality?
Morton was Finnish and his original name is Jukka Marttinen, but user:ScapegoatVandal has deleted this fact. It is true that some sources claims he is Swedish, but it is just because of American Finns were called Swedish that time. Other sources are more aware of his ethnicity. It is even known that accordicg to church books (which were accurate) his grandfather was Martti Marttinen who moved from village of Rautalampi in Finland to America. Also his Finnish American and Finnish Finnish relatives are known these days, and there is no errors anywhere in his family tree.

 * http://encycl.opentopia.com/term/Finnish_Americans
 * http://pedia.newsfilter.co.uk/wikipedia/f/fi/finnish_americans.html

About his Finnish relatives still living: http://www.azstarnet.com/public/nonprofit/finnclub/newsletter.Feb04.html

Tuohirulla 16:45, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * You can't base facts upon mirror sites of Wikipedia, which means your two first propositions are completely invalid. The third website barely says anything.  Provide another source to corroborate and justify that one as legit!  ScapegoatVandal 16:51, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * There are a lots of studies about him in Finnish, but i think i need to google something in English
 * http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/art/article268e.htm
 * http://www.loc.gov/rr/european/FinnsAmer/finchro.html
 * Tuohirulla 17:02, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * This one was not found by google, but luckily i remembered it http://virtual.finland.fi/netcomm/news/showarticle.asp?intNWSAID=33022&LAN=ENG Tuohirulla 17:15, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Another talk about this subject

 * copied from the discussion board of both participants

Please stop vandalising John Morton article. It is a trivial fact that he is Finnish. His family tree is known from the Rautalampian ancestors to these days. Tuohirulla 17:03, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Provide legit sources, because as it seems right now you are the vandal on the loose! ScapegoatVandal 16:55, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * http://virtual.finland.fi/netcomm/news/showarticle.asp?intNWSAID=33022&LAN=ENG Tuohirulla 17:06, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Why don't AMERICAN sources say that, since New Sweden and John Morton were American? ScapegoatVandal 17:15, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * http://www.loc.gov/rr/european/FinnsAmer/finchro.html Tuohirulla 17:17, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Still, that only says they THINK he could be Finnish...not that he in fact was. ScapegoatVandal 17:20, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * None of "your pages" says he could not be a Finn. They are just copying the habit of his time to call all the migrants from swedish kingdom as "swedish". Also Finnish hakkapeliittas invading Karelia and Russia were called "swedish", and still it is known they were Finnish. The term "Swedish" included Finns at that time. But now we are more aware that there were different ethnicities based on language, and we can and to be proper we must use the proper terms. And by the way, the fact that link is American is not and evidence thet it is true. Tuohirulla 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Hey sir, I am not a pinhead! I actually know that Finland was Oesterland for several hundred years and later a Russian Duchy, so don't get all preachy with me!  There are authors who have suggested his ancestry as Finnish, but nowhere in the Library of Congress link does it say that he in fact was.  Do you understand the difference between fact and suggestion?  ScapegoatVandal 17:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * If churchbooks, genealogias and civilian registers are not facts to you, then what is? I can not give you links to them but they do exist. His relatives in America are still Finnish, one of them (Mortons) was also recently interwieved in newspaper- in Finnish. At that time Finnish people said to have been born in Finland in Sweden, because Finland was a part of the swedish realm.

 * I can try to google more, but most of this stuff is maybe not in internet.

 * http://personal.inet.fi/yhdistys/centralin/swe/emi_ref.htm

 * http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/art/article385e.htm

 * http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~barbpretz/ps04/ps04_167.html Tuohirulla 17:50, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I am really encouraging you to note, that nobody appeared to notice him being Finnish at the time of his life. Why should they think on it later, unless they were Finns thinking they could invent comparable contributions to their Swedish overlords and in the face of the Russian doomsday?  This inference is akin to neopagan fluff.  It is retroactive association.  His family was considered Swedish and since he was a national figure that the time, the distinction between Swede and Finn would be apparent to all.  Case in point...Americans knew the difference between a Bavarian and a Prussian, so they would know this too.  You are looking for loopholes to secure you the real truth and I have given it, in the holes of your arguments.  ScapegoatVandal 17:54, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Do you know how common it is for people to fake genealogies, especially for fame? ScapegoatVandal 17:57, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * As it is know the Finns do not make a big show about their ethnicity. It would be unfinnish if Morton would have started to shout in congress that he is a Finn. He became an American patriot, of course he thought he was American. But still his roots are in Finland. You are not a neutral person, which everybody can see about your modifications and claims. You style is aggressive, and you mock the persons and ethnic groups, you see hate and identity complexes everywhere, and use them as arguments. I suggest everyone to look at your earlier edits Tuohirulla 18:14, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Welshmen know they aren't English and others are sure to notice the distinction. Northern Irish are clearly not Republican Irish.  You fail to see how your "evidence" is built on a lot of hope and a few scattered facts that seem to go together but may in fact be false friends.  Truely now?  I merely check the validity of claims, to avoid crackpots running the lunatic asylum that is Wikipedia.  I only want hardcore facts and if none, it must be acknowledged that there is shaky ground within such questionable articles.  ScapegoatVandal 18:24, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * My facts are not shaky. You should read more literacy about this subject Tuohirulla 18:27, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I have read what you gave me and it is not filled with absolutes.

http://www.ancestry.com/search/SurnamePage.aspx?sourcecode=13304&html=b&fn=&ln=morton&submit.x=0&submit.y=0

http://www.ancestry.com/search/SurnamePage.aspx?ln=Martin&fn=&sourcecode=13304&html=b

That's Ancestry.com, which specifies in people of all American backgrounds. It doesn't mention Finnish once in the resulte for "Morton", although you may look up another surname and perhaps find info about their heritage. This search engine says Morton is Swedish, as do most of the articles online say that John Morton was born of a Swedish womb. See it however you like, but these people are professionals who can tell the difference in location within England(north, south, east and west) for certain surnames. That site delineates quite fine details even about my own surname I could hardly guess. ScapegoatVandal 18:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

As you know, the Finns were called "Swedish" that time. Everyone considered them Swedish. So people called them Swedish in many other cases too, and some genealogies have marked them such, but still they were Finnish in modern way of seeing, as they were from Finland and spoke Finnish. This is not revisionism. It has been known a long time that he is Finnish. Tuohirulla 18:50, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * It has been suggested ever since the mid-19th century that he was Finnish. Nobody talked about it in his lifetime.  You are making postulations and defying every single sense of calm.  You prefer jumping conclusions, as opposed to totally verifying the POV you pressure.  Hey, I believe a lot of things too.  It doesn't mean I will shove all my questionable "knowledge" into the public domain as "truth" and Gospel.  Hell, I can tell the difference between Finns and Swedes by looks, accent, language, writing, names and clothing.  Finns have never considered themselves Swedish, in the same context of Irish never considering themselves British.  Do you understand what this means to your precious theory?  I can tell the difference between Irish and British at the drop of a hat.  Can you do as I and many others?  Don't blend the boundaries of fact and suggestion to suit your needs and things will be alright.  Only after Finland was conquered by Russia, did this "truth" get its way into the public ideal.  The brave and bold Finn in America against Britain, as if it were a metaphor for the fight against Russia.

 * From the Wikipedia article about Finland:

 * "In 1808, Finland was conquered by the armies of Russian Emperor Alexander I and thereafter remained an autonomous Grand Duchy in personal union with the Russian Empire until the end of 1917. To sever the cultural and emotional ties with Sweden, the Finnish language was ardently promoted by both the imperial court and the Finnish government and a strong nationalist movement, known as fennomania, since about 1860s. Milestones in this development were the publication of what would become Finland's national epic, the Kalevala, in 1835; and Finnish getting a legally equal status with Swedish in 1892."

 * Do you see how Finnish nationalism inspired the belief that John Morton was Finnish, at the same time as fennomania? Please learn more.  ScapegoatVandal 19:04, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Please don't be upset over losing control of this. Power isn't everything and I do this as a matter of course in aiding the Wikipedia project not be stifled by inaccuracies.  Just think of how you were duped into believing him to be Swedish, as a tool of Finnish nationalism.  Ponder and reflect on how it isn't good to automatically believe everything you hear that sounds good.  ScapegoatVandal 19:27, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I used to be a super-Protestant, always disparaging Catholics because Evangelists were always right. You know something?  I learnt a thing or two about respect.  I felt cheated by my own supposed heroes that carried the good fight.  I then saw life as it truely was, with bickering factions always trying to be on top and resorting to libel and slander if needed to win.  Propping an enemy's own great figure for a useful cause is a typical tactic in times of war.  It is a mindgame to get the most amount of emotional support on one side.  I used to think some people were my heroes, until I saw how their identity was twisted to suit political beliefs.  I wish I hadn't adopted the mantle of my own opponents, because I feel like a part of my life was stolen.  In fact, it was a sleight of hand and magic trick.  I will never forget it.  I cannot stand to be cheated of these things, yet I know the truth.  Just my advice for you.  ScapegoatVandal 19:27, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * See Edit war ScapegoatVandal 20:14, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * If i lose "control over this" it is just because you are more keen to fight the edit war. IF it was not understood earlier than in 19th century in the publicity that Morton was a Finn, it was because there were not such self understanding of Finnishness. There were, of course, the language, but not modern images of etnicity and nationality. Also Morton considered himself patriotic American. I understand that you support him being labeled as "Swedish" as they did that time to the Finns in America and elsewhere, but his American-Finnish relatives who lives today shows clearly they know who Morton was and that he was a Finn. Your claims seems so irrational to me who have read about those American Finns living today, whose straight ancestor he was Tuohirulla 21:54, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This page contains article published in Swedish colonial news 1997: http://www.colonialswedes.org/Forefathers/Morton.html It says that Mortons ancestor was in fact born in Finland, but then moved to Sweden. This living in Sweden may have also made his "swedish" label stronger. This article is made by by Dr. Peter Stebbins Craig (Fellow, American Society of Genealogists, Fellow, Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania, Historian, Swedish Colonial Society) and surely is free of finnish nationalistic fraud which you accuse my sources to have. It also explains totally why he is still understood as "swedish" even though he is from finnish ancestry: His ancestor came in America from Sweden (and to Sweden from Finland). Tuohirulla 22:11, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The best and most recent source cited so far is Swedish colonial news 1997 by Touhirulla. It clearly says that John Morton was of Finnish orgin - in particular ethnically speaking. I suggest that the article should say 'of Finnish origin'. If the discussion was about nationality, well then I suppose we should say that he was one of the first citizens of the US. Trainthh 11:33, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

If only this link can be trusted, Morton's parents weren't from Finland nor Sweden (but his great-grandfather was) nor Morton's name never was Jukka Marttinen.

http://www.pittsburghfinns.org/FinnishCommittee.html --ML 14 Jun 2005

 * I'd hope you can put all the links down on the page. This has been interesting.  ScapegoatVandal 05:04, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

There seems to be an agreement emerging on this article. Do all agree that NPOV-tag could be removed? I found this discussion a useful case demonstrating how careful one should be with sources. Trainthh

 * Yes. ScapegoatVandal 12:41, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Not important
I removed 6 paragraphs that was word-for-word the same as is found on this website. As far as my opinion on the rest of the article, the tidbit about Swedish/Finnish ancestry is interesting, but it doesn't warrant three paragraphs. A simple link or two will suffice. John Morton isn't what I would term an important Founding Father. Sure, his vote turned out to be the deciding vote in favor of independence, but that is basically it. So, I'll delete the rest of the biography section. --Sparkhurst 07:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Good grief; if it matters, I am an American Foreign Service Officer and from 2003-2007 was the Political Officer at the U.S. Embassy in Helsinki. During that time, the U.S. Embassy extensively researched John Morton in preparation for a diplomatic outreach involving famous Finnish-Americans. As some of the posters above note, Morton's ancestors did indeed hail from Rautalampi, and some still reside there today. The Swedish/Finnish debate is obscured by the fact that all Finns in 18th Century America were considered "Swedes," but there is no doubt that Morton's ancestors were Fenno-Finns. The U.S. Department of State even sponsored an historical "impersanator" dressed in period costume in 2007 (or late 2006, I forget) to travel to Finland and re-enact Morton's speeches and historical contributions. Please put me down as an original source if needed to end the vandalism to this article-- David A. Schlaefer, U.S. Embassy-Helsinki  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.13.130.104 (talk) 05:56, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Burial confusion
We now have two different burial sites given. Which is it? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 12:10, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

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Islamic International Foundation of Cooperation

The Islamic International Foundation of Cooperation (IslamIFC) is a nonprofit, non-governmental organization that partners with North American Muslims, non-Muslims and organizations. It promotes peace, mutual understanding and cultural exchange. This organization supports business ventures in order to finance cultural and educational activities. The IslamIFC is the parent organization that includes the OnlineIslamicStudies.com, Al-Mahdi Program, SalaamBooks, ElmeMonir.com, Risaalaat.org, and the 21st February Books. This organization was established in 1990 by some experts in Islamic Studies in the Iranian city of Qom.

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In 1998, while a student at Hawza Ilmiyah seminary in Qom, Hashim Ali Alauddeen a University of California at Berkeley, graduate in Islamic Studies along with Hujjatul Islam Hamid Matin Maneesh helped IslamIFC to establish its international wing: Al-Mahdi Program (Al-Mahdi Camp) and Risaalaat Educational Program to help Muslims of North America learn Islam, establish cultural exchange and make ziyarat "visitation" to the shrines of the eighth Imam Ali al-Rida, in Mashad, Fatima Masoomeh in Qom. He also taught Islamic studies to the groups and arrange for them to meet with Islamic scholars and encourage them take to take short-term of Islamic courses in Qom.

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In 2013, IslamIFC established the OnlineIslamicStudies as an information and education network that provides an online outlet for the production and publishing of the Islamic thoughts and ideas. Members and Students can listen to podcasts, read texts, and make suggestions for adding new information. The network is designed to encourage users to participate in an interactive learning through discussion, blogging, Q&A, and other educational services. OnlineIslamicStudies.com (OIS.Education) is an educational website based on IOSIE (Integrated Online Services for Information Exchange and Education) as a learning management system (LMS), started in 2007 by IslamIFC.

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Talk:Arnold R. Beverley

This article should probably be deleted, right ?

I think it should stay as a stub of sorts, but the line, "Furthermore, it is common in high-profile murder cases for false confessions to be made to police." is only relevant in as much as the author wants to imply that Arnold Beverly is making a false confession. I don't think that's objective.

 * The Free Mumia campaign has made a big deal of the Beverley confession, and that has meant it has been well publicised worldwide, possibly gaining it enough notability for Wikipedia. I'd suggest a readirect to the Mumia Abu-Jamal article, but with the heated POV-warring and vandalism over there, there's no guarantee that a mention of Beverley will actually be in the article on any given day of the week. --Aim Here 08:00, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Operation Dragoon

Mistake map operation Dragoon
In the top of the map it is indicated that Dijon is 37 miles to the north. This cannot be correct - Dijon is more 200 km, 124 miles to the north - and most likely refers to Lyon which is approximately 40 miles to the north. Given the historical character of the map, I don't think it should be edited. I will try to add a note to the file to indicate that this is most likely an error.

VincentVandalon (talk) 16:04, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Untitled
Ashley, with respect I will revert your deleting of Operation Span. The source is the official US Army History (the Green Book series) on this operation. Paul, in Saudi 16:47, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

correction
I use wikipedia alot, though this is my first time actually editing or suggesting something. I noticed the article said that the name change came form a quote from churchhill claiming he was "Dragooned into it"; in reality that was the common myth amoungst soldiers at the time but it turned out to be false. This is acourding to a reliable source, Airborne by E. M. Flanagan JR, Ballantine Books, Copyright 2002.

Since I'm new it would be apreciated if somebody else fixed this.

Lophoole 23:00, 1 October 2006 (UTC)Lophoole

OK, I figured out how to edit adn add the fact, but not how to site it. (It's proubably common knowledge and is only a minor fact, but if somebody could please site it that would be helpfull.)
 * I've put the basic info into the para, surrounded by . It's not a complete citation, but it's best to capture the basic information as soon as you can.  Another editor can always clean up the citation style.  Welcome to editing!LeadSongDog 16:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Casualties?
There seem to be no sources to back up the casualties given. 2x4,500 versus 125,000 casualties also seems highly unlikely, US casualties were probably higher and German casualties lower. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.171.148.207 (talk) 09:19, 12 April 2007 (UTC).

Surely the casualties shouldn't be listed as "unknown" in the infobox. That seems to imply that nobody knows, which I doubt is the case! -- SCZenz (talk) 18:16, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd add that the casualties don't list the British or Canadian casualty lists, surely they must be available somewhere? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.223.14 (talk) 14:32, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Rewrite
Note to any editors watching this page, though I doubt there are many. Please retain the books I've listed in the bibliography. I will come back to rewrite the article, but I feel that I need to gather more sources, particularly on the operations background. Skinny87 (talk) 20:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

No mention of Churchill's dismay?
Winston Churchill was very opposed to this operation and wished instead for the Allies to make landings in Greece and/or the Balkans (to prevent further Soviet influence) yet Roosevelt and Stalin had the final say. Shouldn't the article mention this briefly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.80.178 (talk) 13:56, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

 * I think he was concerned more over the diversion of resources from Italy and Normandy. Operation Manna went ahead soon after Dragoon anyway. Jim Sweeney (talk) 15:09, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It ist mentioned in the Background section. 2nd paragraph. StoneProphet (talk) 21:19, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

 * Monty was certainly opposed to it on the grounds that the Balkans would have been the better option. It's in his memoirs. Valetude (talk) 18:06, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Recent Additions
thanks for the work you're doing on this page, although having read some of the content I am not sure it's appropriate for Wikipedia. In particular suffering from issues of tone, sourcing and original research. Here's an example!
 * One would have expected the French to be overjoyed with "Dragoon" and many of the 230,000 French soldiers[33] and liberated civilians no doubt were, it was the largest French military action since 1940, but in the 1,000 page book of the WW2 Memoirs of De Gaulle, "Dragoon" has less than one page of coverage.[55]:626

I hope this feedback is helpful, and I'm happy to answer questions! A lot of the content you are adding is fantastic, but there does seem to be a little bit of original research and opinion dispersed amongst the additions. --Errant (chat!) 13:30, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * "Wikipedia articles, and other encyclopedic content, should be written in a formal tone", and in particular not in the first or second person. This sentence, as does some of the other content, suffers from informal tone and use of the incorrect narrative.
 * "Wikipedia articles must not contain original research"; or in other words, avoid bringing in your own analysis. "many of the 230,000 French soldiers[33] and liberated civilians no doubt were,"; is this the opinion of a source? " but in the 1,000 page book of the WW2 Memoirs of De Gaulle, "Dragoon" has less than one page of coverage"; why is this significant? You do need sources to say this before it can be added.
 * "Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources"; which ties to the past problem, reliable sourcing for your claim. It may certainly be factual that the De Gaulle memoirs only contains one page about Dragoon, however that this is significant, or unusual is not appropriate to cite to the book itself.
 * Thats OK, I was hoping I would come across something elsewhere to support it, but I have not yet found anything. I'll delete that para.
 * Its nice to know someone has read the article.
 * By the way, is there any way of telling how many people access any particular article ?
 * Some article stats can be found here: http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/Operation_Dragoon. --Errant (chat!) 13:54, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * There's also the basic info action. LeadSongDog come howl!  16:53, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, you learn something new every day on Wikipedia

Need a translation
[This discussion copied from User talk:Natalie.Desautels.]

Hello, Natalie! I guess you are back home now and settling into your fall schedule. Welcome back to Wikipedia! It's nice to see you editing again. I'm just now finishing a copy-edit of Operation Dragoon. In that article there is a photo of a procession after the liberation of Marseilles in 1944. I see in the file description that the only description of the photo is in French. Since the officer Jean de Lattre de Tassigny is a key figure in the article, and there are a number of people in the photo, I think it would be nice to have the description also in English so that readers who do not know French can read it and see which one is de Tassigny. I wonder if you feel like translating the description and adding it (if that is permitted). I understand most of it but would not be able to do as good a job as you could. Here is the image:  – Corinne (talk) 18:51, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

 * Dear ,
 * In her reply in the section immediately above, Natalie told me yesterday that she's currently in Paris for a few weeks. I hope she/you won't mind that I jumped in...
 * With kind regards;
 * Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 19:43, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * P.S. I have been thinking about your idea of adding the translation into the description of the file itself, but I don't know whether that's allowable. I would suggest the obvious: add a summary of the (long-ish) translation into the caption (see the article on the Yalta Conference, for an example of a photo with a long caption). I have added such a summary in the third subsection below.
 * Hope this helped some more. Best wishes, Corinne.
 * Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 22:46, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Original description
André Diethelm [Identifié par ressemblance avec le portrait disponible sur senat.fr] passe en revue des troupes dans Marseille libérée en août 1944. On reconnaît, derrière Diethelm, le général de Lattre de Tassigny (en pantalon et chemise d'uniforme, sans veste, regardant sur sa droite les soldats) et Emmanuel d'Astier de La Vigerie, à droite de la photo. Entre les deux précédents, derrière Diethelm, en képi à feuilles de chêne, le général de Monsabert. Photographie prise sur le quai de Rive-Neuve à l'angle avec le cours Jean-Ballard Localisation faite en reconnaissant les traits des bâtiments, qui n'ont guère changé depuis.

Translation
André Diethelm [identified by resemblance with the portrait available at senat.fr] reviewing troops in Marseille, liberated in August 1944. Behind Diethelm are: general de Lattre de Tassigny (in uniform trousers and shirt, without jacket, looking at soldiers to his right) and Emmanuel d'Astier de La Vigerie, far right in the photo. Between the latter two and behind Diethelm, is général de Monsabert (in kepi with oak leaf). Photo shot (by an unknown author) on the quay de Rive-Neuve at the angle with Cours Jean-Ballard. Location identified through recognition of local buildings, which have not changed much since then.

Suggested caption
André Diethelm reviewing troops in Marseille, liberated in August 1944. Behind Diethelm are: general de Lattre de Tassigny (in uniform trousers and shirt, without jacket, looking at soldiers to his right) and Emmanuel d'Astier de La Vigerie, far right in the photo. Between the latter two and behind Diethelm, is général de Monsabert (in kepi with oak leaf).

 * Patrick, thank you so much for your reply and for undertaking the translation. This is well written and fine. I'm just wondering – even though the phrase, "liberated in August 1944", is a perfect translation of the phrase in the French description, it does not indicate at all that this review of the troops took place immediately following the liberation of Marseilles, which, given the subject matter of the article, would be more pertinent. I mean, can we not assume that that was when the photo was taken? Can we safely write:

 * André Diethelm reviewing troops in Marseille, following the liberation of the city in August 1944...., or

 * André Diethelm reviewing troops in Marseille, upon liberation of the city in August 1944....?

 * Or do you prefer the original (i.e., your) wording?

 * Also, when I was editing the article, I was struck by the spelling "Marseille", so I looked at the WP article Marseille, and I saw that "Marseille" is the French spelling and that "Marseilles" is generally used in English. That's why I paused at "Marseille". I was used to seeing "Marseilles". That's really interesting because it's the opposite of what one would expect. One would expect a silent final "s" (found on many French words), left off in the English spelling. I wonder how in the world an "s" found its way onto the English spelling of the name of the city. Do you think the English spelling, "Marseilles", should be used throughout the article Operation Dragoon or the French spelling, "Marseille"?  – Corinne (talk) 14:41, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

 * Dear Corinne,
 * You're most welcome, of course; it's always a pleasure.
 * Well, I simply translated the original description provided by the Wikipedian who uploaded the digital photo into the Wikipedia file. Your query addresses two different events:
 * the date of the liberation of Marseille, which an existing article records as taking place on 29 August 1944;
 * the date when the photograph was taken, which is not on record; so, we simply don't know.
 * Therefore, what I would do in this case is to refine the date in the first sentence of the caption to:
 * André Diethelm reviewing troops in Marseille, liberated on 29 August 1944. ...
 * This would provide more precision, even though it does not address your suggestion to change the translation to "following the liberation of the city" or "upon the liberation of the city", which is nonetheless very strongly implied. One could of course assume that these important and very busy officials would not have chosen to hang around in Marseille for very long. Therefore, one could further assume the photo to have been shot in late August (29, 30, 31) or in early September. However, we simply don't know. The article on fr:André Diethelm does not provide a date for this parade either; so: we simply cannot date the photo without first searching for a verifiable source that provides the date of this parade, on the supposition that this specific event was ever recorded and documented by historians.
 * As you already know, the article (at our en Wiki) does not have the final 's' in the spelling of Marseille, but does mention the English spelling in the first sentence of the lead section. Therefore, both spellings are available to the reader in a single source, and I am happy to let you decide how to spell it in the caption: Marseille or Marseilles.
 * With kindest regards, as always;
 * Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 19:37, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * P.S. Maybe you could consider copying this entire section into the talk page of the article on Operation Dragoon, for our accountability to other editors? Thank you, Corinne.

 * – Corinne (talk) 21:00, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

 * Pdebee I don't know which spelling of the city to use. Does anyone have an opinion?

 * Regarding the photo, I wonder if there is a way to track down the date on which the photo was taken. – Corinne (talk) 21:01, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

 * Dear ;
 * Since it's about events in France, I'd go for the French spelling: Marseille, as per the photo's file description.
 * The editor who uploaded the photo is User:Rama, as per the file description. S/he might know more about it.
 * With kind regards;
 * Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 21:39, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Italian POW and volunteers participation not mentioned
Hello, i am new but this video talks about the participation of italian POW and volunteers for this operation. should this be included?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39BhaqucJzg

Sources: 'History of Prisoner-of-War Utilisation by the United States Army, 1776-1945' by George Glover Lewis & John Mewha (1978); 'Italian Service Unit Insignia' by Militarytrader.com; 'Italian Service Units' Wikipedia entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.216.180.25 (talk) 20:55, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

"consequences lasting into the cold war"
In the Aftermath section of the article, it says Stalin was given "a free hand to pursue his offensive efforts with more determination, allowing him to win the race towards Berlin and occupy the Balkans."

The part where it says, "allowing him to win the race towards Berlin." That's where I have a problem. As far as I'm aware of, Eisenhower and the other generals on the Western Front were not engaged in a race with Stalin for Berlin. I thought it had already been decided at a conference that Stalin and the Red Army would be the ones marching into Berlin?

Ilikelegosandroblox (talk) 04:51, 28 March 2021 (UTC)ilikelegosandroblox

 * This is a Cold War-era thesis put forward by Chester Wilmot in The Struggle for Europe in 1950. It is not accepted by historians today. See Broad front versus narrow front controversy in World War II. And yes, it had already been decided at Tehran that the Red Army would be the one marching into Berlin. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  06:04, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

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Kulfi
On Talk:Kulfi, you wrote in 2014: I've uprated this version to 'C' class - the article is well-referenced for its length, and contains great supporting materials. I think for 'B' class, it requires only expansion with a few more sections, perhaps including a history of the dessert if available. Kudos to editors of the article so far - it's looking great! I've now added the B-class checklist to reflect the above - a couple more well-referenced sections, and I think the article would be ready for B-class and beyond!

Kulfi has recently been updated. Would you like to visit it and offer your opinion? Thank you. Ram1751 (talk) 23:28, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Editing newsletter 2022 – #1
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The New topic tool helps editors create new ==Sections== on discussion pages. New editors are more successful with this new tool. You can read the report. Soon, the Editing team will offer this to all editors at most WMF-hosted wikis. You can join the discussion about this tool for the English Wikipedia is at Village pump (proposals). You will be able to turn it off in the tool or at Special:Preferences.

The Editing team plans to change the appearance of talk pages. These are separate from the changes made by the Desktop improvements project and will appear in both Vector 2010 and Vector 2022. The goal is to add some information and make discussions look visibly different from encyclopedia articles. You can see some ideas at Wikipedia talk:Talk pages project.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

23:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Editing news 2022 #2
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The new [] button notifies people when someone replies to their comments. It helps newcomers get answers to their questions. People reply sooner. You can read the report. The Editing team is turning this tool on for everyone. You will be able to turn it off in your preferences.

–Whatamidoing (WMF) (User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)) 00:35, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations opening soon
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are opening in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 1 September). A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:52, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting opening soon!
Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election opens in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 15 September) and will last through 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Correction to previous election announcement
Just a quick correction to the prior message about the 2022 MILHIST coordinator election! I didn't proofread the message well enough and left out a link to the election page itself in this message. The voting will occur here; sorry about the need for a second message and the inadvertent omission from the prior one. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:42, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting closing soon
Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election closes soon, at 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. The voting itself is occurring here If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

ArbCom 2022 Elections voter message
 Hello! Voting in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2022 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:20, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Editing news 2023 #1
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This newsletter includes two key updates about the Editing team's work:

 * 1) The Editing team will finish adding new features to the Talk pages project and deploy it.
 * 2) They are beginning a new project, Edit check.

Talk pages project

The Editing team is nearly finished with this first phase of the Talk pages project. Nearly all new features are available now in the Beta Feature for.

It will show information about how active a discussion is, such as the date of the most recent comment. There will soon be a new "" button. You will be able to turn them off at Special:Preferences. Please tell them what you think.

An A/B test for on the mobile site has finished. Editors were more successful with. The Editing team is enabling these features for all editors on the mobile site.

New Project: Edit Check

The Editing team is beginning a project to help new editors of Wikipedia. It will help people identify some problems before they click "". The first tool will encourage people to add references when they add new content. Please watch that page for more information. You can join a conference call on 3 March 2023 to learn more.

–Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:19, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Jimmy Kelly (singer) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Jimmy Kelly (singer) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Jimmy Kelly (singer) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. Charsaddian (talk) 22:01, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election have opened. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting will commence on 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:05, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Cnxnet.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Cnxnet.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 02:12, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

CfD nomination at
A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at  on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Qwerfjkl talk  09:34, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Voting for the WikiProject Military History newcomer of the year and military historian of the year awards for 2023 is now open!
Voting is now open for the WikiProject Military History newcomer of the year and military historian of the year awards for 2023! The the top editors will be awarded the coveted Gold Wiki. Cast your votes vote here and here respectively. Voting closes at 23:59 on 30 December 2023. On behalf of the coordinators, wishing you the very best for the festive season and the new year. via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Nika Turković

A tag has been placed on Nika Turković requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

"Nonexisting person, consider 'She is fluent in English, Spanish, Italian, and Slovene in addition to her native Croatian.[4]'"

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. 5.43.86.137 (talk) 09:18, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

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