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Wikipedia:Historical archive/New user log/May 2005

Rainbow Pacifist
A very good afternoon. I write this having already posted to the village pump. Sorry for the breach of protocol - I am getting a hang of things finally. :) And thanks to the two people who responded to my post.

Professionally, I am an academic with research interests in economic and environmental history; environmental risks; and technology assessment. As a citizen, I am interested in the free flow of ideas and knowledge and contributing to literacy, learning and sustainable forms of living. As a person, I love classical music and jazz; photography; and various sports.

My goal in Wikipedia is to contribute to the environmental studies entries. The current listings have relevant material listed under 'ecology' and 'geography.' I'd like in a modest way to help augment these offerings.

I look forward to being a productive member of this community. I hope this is what I was meant to write in this box. :) rainbow pacifist 01:14, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Ladycascadia
Hi, I've been creating articles and editing for about three months now, so I figure it's high time I introduce myself.

I am in my 40's, the divorced mother of an adult daughter, and live in Oregon. Although I hold university degrees in Broadcast Communication and International Studies, over the past 20 years, I've worked mostly in various sales, marketing and administrative support positions within the television, media, fashion and marketing industries. The very first article I ever contributed to was the one for receptionist because I felt that it needed a more balanced outlook than what was previously written.

It is my goal to help Wikipedia with creating and maintaining helpful and credible articles. When writing articles here at Wikipedia, I tend to focus on creating or improving articles that deal with office and administrative support as well as in the areas of literature, writers, history, entertainment and media.

Amongst my hobbies and interests I include: reading, creative writing (I have my own literary webzine and blog), gardening, travel to historic points of interest, arts and culture and attending afternoon tea parties. I am also a member of the local garden club, a lay reader at my church, and a member of the Red Hat Society.

Ladycascadia 22:25, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

amenome
hello, i'm about to start grad school for a phd in biomedical engineering. i first heard about wikipedia a while back, not sure where, but i only became interested when i downloaded the wikipedia widget for apple's new os just now and looked up some words related to my field of interest and found stubs! anyway, will try to flesh out some of the info related to bone biology and orthopaedic engineering. amenome 00:14, May 3, 2005 (UTC)

JDavis79
Cutie graduating senior with a degree in pure mathematics. Experience in all things mathematical, programming and Unix related. Expectations for the future include medical school. Jdavis79 00:35, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

New User: jvospost
My real name is Jonathan Vos Post. I am a widely published scientist, mathematician, science fiction author, and poet. I have been a professor of several subjects at several colleges and universities. I am co-webmaster of http://magicdragon.com which gets over 15,000,000 hits per year, and within which is biographical and bibliographical material on myself and on almost 20,000 other authors. I've programmed computers since 1967, in over 30 languages, and have taught programming in 12 languages in graduate schools. In my more than 1,200 publications, presentations, and broadcasts, I have had remarkable coauthors and coeditors, including Isaac Asimov, Ray Bradbury, Arthur C. Clarke, and Richard Feynman.

Jvospost 01:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)jvospost

Ayush Gupta
I am a Computer Science Student in India, and my age is 17 years. My particular areas of interest are environment (especially Global Warming), reading science-fiction (or otherwise) novels, designing websites and graphics out of interest and for professional purposes, listening to music (I love Linkin Park). I hope my time at Wikipedia will be pleasant and that most of my articles will pass without being voted under the Deletion Cat. The co-operation from other Wikipediaians in all the matters dealt by me will be appreciated.

Energy
Hi - as my userpage says I've been using WP a long time, so nobody could actually call me a newbie. Just thought I'd introduce myself as myself, though, rather than as a string of numbers. I'm particularly interested in science, the Government of the United Kingdom and get random interests(!). I also do routine jobs such as syntax repairs and vandalism-watching, dull as they are. Feel free to leave a message on my talkpage,--> Energy (talk) 17:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Rune Welsh
I'm a Mexican Chemistry student and I've been editing articles on wikipedia under this username for about a week now (and several months before that, mostly correcting mistakes). I just came across this page through another user's talk page and decided to leave a note. So hi all!! -- Rune Welsh 18:38, May 3, 2005 (UTC)

John Woolley
I'm a deacon in the Anglican Catholic Church. My primary areas of interest (at least of knowledgeable interest) are theology and Church history, English literature (up to about 1900), private-eye stories, Romance languages, and various bits of American and European history and culture. I've been using Wikipedia for a few years, and just recently started fixing typos and adding bits of information.

Frjwoolley 03:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC) Father Deacon John Woolley

FireballX301
Greetings. I am a high school student a year away from advancing to higher education. Chief interests are in software development and politics. I've made only a few minor edits here and there, and I've been simply browsing Wikipedia for a while. This place is excellent for doing a brain-dump after a long day. As a student, I doubt I know any more than most about any particular subject, but I am a mathematics person (Calculus at 14) and a bit of a history buff.

An ulterior motive, however, is simply ensuring that every instance of 'FireballX301' that surfaces is, in fact, me. An exercise in narcissism? Or preservation of identity. I'm not sure which.

FireballX301 06:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Andy Hamilton
Main interest is herbs, vegetables and organic growing. Have a site all about sustainable living in urban areas, self sufficient 'ish'. I also know a few bits of psychology, literature and have travelled (a bit) so might be adding to other areas too.

Andham2000 12:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Kail Ceannai
I am a masters student in Information Technology. My thesis research is in Zigbee and Wireless sensor networks. I am interested in web development, anime, science fiction, fanfic, and anything computer. I am a member of the Society of Women Engineers (SWE), ACM, IEEE, and the American Society for Engineering Educators (ASEE).

Kail Ceannai 17:20, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Veggiesattva
Oh man. It's finals week and I just discovered this site. This is a BIG problem. But I'm having a wonderful time updating lots of things about Yale University. Where are all the other actively-editing Yale students? Veggiesattva 20:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

mistersykes
Hello, I'm new to Wikipedia, and I really don't know that much about it so far, but I will learn. I'm an 18 year old High School Senior, and I will attend Appalachian State University in the fall. After my Freshman year, I plan on transferring to Warren Wilson College. I want to be an environmental scientist or farmer or something of the sort. I have a very, very open mind.

My main interests are vegetarianism and animal rights, but I also enjoy philosophy and socialogy a great deal. Sexual Psychology is also a topic I have great interest in. I have a great desire to attain knowledge. I know a bit about sciences, classics (latin), and possibly other things. Mistersykes 21:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

R Lee E
Hello all,

Since I discovered Wikipedia, I've been astounded by the amount of information available. When I finally discovered it was a community in which users could edit and add thier own articles, it all made sense. This place is awesome! I plan on spending a lot of time here.

I've started out by adding an article about a place I like to visit quite frequently called Cathedral Gorge State Park. I plan to remain very active. Great to be here!

Guillermo.otalora
Hi. I'm new here, 17 years old. I live in Bogota, Colombia. I am willing to help in any way possible. Guillermo.otalora 00:00, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

ZPG0705
I found Wikipedia whilst working on a few school projects. I don't know if I'll come across anything that needs changing, but I figure that it can't hurt to have a name instead of a nearly meaningless string of numbers attached if I edit or talk at all.

Mia Goff
Hello there,

My name is Mia and I live and garden in Ottawa, Canada. I work in the IT department of a university, with a focus on communications and planning.

Today was my first visit to Wikipedia, having found the link on the site of one of this week’s winners of a Webby Award Rtm86. I was awed by the scope of the project, the amount of information, and the opportunity to make a contribution.

Being a perfectionist by nature, I have recently been trying to tame that side of myself. Somewhere on the web, I read a Chinese proverb that said: ‘Be not afraid of growing slowly … be afraid of standing still'.

I really like the collaborative nature of Wikipedia, and I think that I will learn a lot about taming my perfectionism and (dare I say) grow to be a better team player.

In return, I hope to contribute images of plants in my zone 4 garden, as well as information in the area of perennial gardening. I'm also happy to do any required tidying/clean-up/editing on pages related to gardening. Off to Bootcamp I go ... errr ... after work that is.

Mia Goff 11:56, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

canisestmortis
Hi, I'm currently doing AS levels in a school in England. I'm really interested in classics, especially ancient Greece, so i'll probably only edit/create articles relating to that topic. I'm studying AS classical civilization and ancient Greek and intend to study classics at Cambridge in September 2006 (i hope anyway!), the articles relating to classics on Wikipedia are usually extremely well written and very useful; cheers guys!

David Rudel
Phantym 23:46, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Bill Pollard
Hi! I stumbled upon the wikipedia several years ago, during research I was conducting on libraries and weblogs. However, it fell out of my cousciousness until now.

It was only by chance yesterday I noted a link on [| librarian.net] to a transcript on [| j's scratchpad] of a recent talk by Jimmy Wales.

I'm a librarian in the UK, hobbies include local history, reading (sci-fi and mysteries mostly) and soccer/football. I will endeavour to be bold, although reserve the right to be timid at times! Welcome all. Bill Pollard 13:49, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Jeff Quinn
Hi, I'm a chemical engineering grad student who's been browsing Wikipedia for a while now. Hopefully I can contribute something useful. My research interests are in polymer chemistry and physics, especially electronic properties of polymers. Jeff 17:22, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Yannick Gingras
Hi all, I'm an undergrad math student from Montréal. I just contributed some fractal zooming movies generated with a program that I made. I plan to help with the french translation of math related articles.

Wikipedia is a great source of help for math students. Most math textbooks are hard to search and cover only a single subject so crossreferences are almost inexistent.

Yannick Gingras 06:23, 2005 May 10 (UTC)

Hitokirishinji
Hi everyone

I'm currently a first year medical student in the US. I have a BS in Molecular Biochemistry and Biophysics so I'd like to contribute more details to the biochemistry articles. Also, I noticed wikipedia has a fair amount of information lacking in certain areas of medicine so I will write articles there as well.

I'd like to contribute a fairly decent amount of stuff so that readers who are looking into medical information will get what they need. I welcome comments and edits :) Please let me know if you find anything interesting about my articles or perhaps if there is a certain subject I can possibly help expand upon.

I have many interests including gaming, martial arts, computers, medicine, history etc.

Hope that I will make a positive impression here :)

Hitokirishinji 15:25, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Pete2
Hello! I found Wikipedia quite by accident several weeks ago. I was researching via Google. I was so impressed, especially when I read that anyone could contribute their knowledge on any subject. I am a retired, registered Medical Technologist, having worked some 30 years in the field as a generalist in the areas of chemistry, hematology, blood bank, microbiology, serology, etc. These days, I find myself helping out at my husband's CPA practice when called upon to do so. I also stay pretty busy just trying to keep up with 4 teenaged sons. When I'm not helping out at the office, you'll find me digging in the dirt. I've loved gardening ever since I was a young child, and my father taught me the "how to's" of growing something from a seed. Taking and passing the Master Gardener course several years ago did nothing but fuel my passion for gardening even more. To be more specific, I love heirlooms, especially heirloom tomatoes. I have over 200 different varieties of heirloom tomatoes in my seed collection. I am an admitted tomato freak. You'll even find me growing tomatoes during the winter months in my greenhouse. I prefer to gardening organically when growing all of my vegetable crops, as well as fruit and citrus trees, here in my temperate climate. Early Christianity is another interest of mine, and I've done considerable research on the subject, studying the traditions and writings of the early Christians. I do hope to be able to contribute something to Wikipedia.Pete2 23:22, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

DeweyQ
I started editing at Wikipedia in the last little while and thought I should drop an introduction into this page. I am a manager at IBM and have strong interest in technical writing and the application of technology for information management. I have experience in writing and editing, software development, law enforcement, and radio and television production—but clearly not an expert in any of these things. I look forward to contributing when I can. DeweyQ 20:23, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

john safran
with the recent death of hunter s thompson,australian john safran becomes perhaps the worlds most popular gonzo journalist

broken
I am broken.

I am here for a reason.

I chose broken as my username because

'I am broken in heart and soul,

By clasping tight I am still whole.

To be understood is my life's goal,

Without understanding I am but a foal.'

I write poetry.

I play chess, but not well enough to play on wiki chess in sandbox.

I am unsure of what I am to write here.

Please view my userpage

Broken 01:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

WB
Let's see now, History: Dad was 4th generation Irish, Moms is Japanese. Grew up in Rockford, Illinois until age 9, then lived in Santa Clara, California until graduation. Got BS in Japanese from San Francisco State University in 97. Currently an interpreter for Honda Motor Co. in Japan. Interests: Devoted Chicago Cubs, Bulls & Bears fan. Play hoops regularly, occasionally hit the links as well. Read anything that piques my interest. Musical tastes span a broad range with a preference for Hip Hop, cuz I'm all about keepin' it real (whatever that means). Children: Jeffrey (6) Colin (2) Shon (due in October) Philosophy: I try to be like the lotus when at all possible. You will often see the Buddha sitting or standing on a lotus blossom. The way I interpret this, if you notice, the lotus is the flower of a root that grows not underground, but in water. Shallow, murky, swamp-like water at that. From this swamp, the lotus rises above and blooms on the surface, not put off by the murky muddy darkness that is the swamp below. This is not to say that I consider myself above the swamp, for I am indeed very much of it. I am saying, it is just my own philosophy to try to be like that lotus, immune to hate and deceit, exploitation and inhumanity, because the swamp is the evil laden world we live in, and the lotus is the human spirit. I'm a little Buddhist, a little Rasta, and unfortunately very cynical. This is one of the reasons I don't like popular news, because I am so disturbed by human tragedy, and it upsets my sensitivity, so I prefer to just leave that stuff alone. And thats me in a nutshell.

Stop by my userpage

03:28, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Fcs
The first time I learned about Wikipedia was in a minor article in Newsweek. It caught my attention because I believe it represents another example of the information revolution of the 21st century: sharing as opposed to copyrighting it.

I've been browsing Wikipedia for some time now but want to start contributing to it. Not sure where to start but I'll read the tutorials and the list of requested articles. If you have any suggestions, please drop me a message at Fcs.

Simesa
I'm a former nuclear engineer now living near Philadelphia. I found Wikipedia while doing a Google search - great resource! For now I'm just a user, although I contributed a couple of stubs to round out a list of aircraft accidents.

Morose2
Hi!

New to the Wikipedia.

They said to tell a little about myself... so here goes nothing. :D

I'm nineteen years old and I live in Reykjavik, Iceland. I currently live in the basement of my parents' house. The basement has an exceptionally low ceiling, and the house has a front door that makes more noise than your average grenade.

NOT something you'd want to share when you're trying to... entice women.

Or men for that matter... I wouldn't wanna be picked up by a chick who suddenly blurts out "oh, and by the way, don't worry about any noise I make when we're f****n', the front door wakes up my parents anyway... oh, and you'd better watch your head in my room, and not try to move too much"

My main interests are art(practically anything you can call art), drumming, tattoos, culture, the fairer of sexes... and a bunch of other stuff. I like drawing, I like doin' some graffiti now and then, I like taking photographs... not really models or anything, just still life. I play the guitar, the piano and most percussion instruments you can dream of. Oh, and I'm very good at faking that I play the violin:D

I watch too much TV and exercise too little. Well... I actually exercise four, five times a week... but that ain't my point.

My favourite bands... well, I have a notepad file in my computer where I put the names of bands and artists which have produced at least one song that I like... last time I checked the number was looming dangerously close to 300... but I like 70's punk and bluesrock, 80's rock and hair-metal. Swingin' jazz and fusion jazz and some of the newer indie/emo bands, as well as some metal, nu-metal and college-punkrock groups.

Movies... well, I have another notepad file... it's about half the length of the list of bands... but that's still too many to put in a forum post. Unless the point of the post is to make a list of movies/bands/whatever you really like.

This is getting pretty long.

I have a few tattoos, and I'm looking to get more... If my dream comes true (well, the dream I have about tattoos) then in the end I'll have around 19 of'em. *yay* I haven't got any piercings, because, for instance, if I had a ring in my eyebrow and a couple of studs in my ears... that's the first thing someone would go for in a fight, he'd rip them right out, and that'd hurt, and get blood in my eyes wich irritates and distracts. But I do dig chicks with piercings... not nipple piercings or (in the words of Sandra Bullocks in Jay Leno the other week) piercings in the area of their "p" [otherwise known as downstairs]. But ears, navels, eyebrows and tongues are nice.

I enjoy a lot of sports activities. Soccer, football (or as we say in my country rubbi, [pronounced roobby :P] it's closer to the english rugby than american football), basketball, handball, running, but especially I like martial arts. Oh, and weight lifting. I've done some karate, some taekwondo, some wu shu, some boxing, some aikido, some kendo, some jiu jitsu, some MMA, and some Muay thai in my time, and I found them all very interesting and all that, but in the end the drums won.

Drums to me are actually the best thing about life, and THE reason I'm still alive (that and my "friends" keep saying they'll miss me, which I don't think they will, but I give them the benefit of the doubt). Although I must say that drumming(and my band)always seem just a "little" less important whenever I snatch myself a steady girlfriend. Which is why I've been trying to combine the two recently.

It's going horribly. I'm not sure wether she want's to be in the band, and I'm not sure she knows I like her. I'm pretty sure that IF she want's to be in the band, she wouldn't wanna date me, and if she'd date me, she wouldn't wanna be in the band.

This is actually becoming an essay.

I should totally try to write something more!!!

But that's what I've been trying to do since paragraph four... and I just ran out of ideas, cuz a biography is out of the question, and I ain't gonna put too much detail on my personal life on the internet.

But I have a blog, though,

http://morose2.blogdrive.com

It hasn't been updated since January 21st, but I'm getting to it... if you read it, I suggest starting at the beginning and reading the whole thing... scroll to the bottom for an english version of every entry.

And thus I bid you adieu

Morose2 Morose2 21:47, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Reediewes
I just received a welcome from Isomorphic and thought I'd introduce myself here. I've been a user of Wikipedia for a few weeks now, mostly doing copyedit work. (In the world of writing, I am the annoying guy with the red pen who checks others' mistakes. Or your high school English teacher. Pick one.) Recently, though, I have contributed to a few articles on plays: Romeo and Juliet and J.B.. I hope to add more to the database once I gain more confidence in my knowledge. Reediewes 08:08, May 15, 2005 (UTC)

Live Forever
Hello. Live Forever is an account that I made on November 15, 2004 that I have only recently revitalized. I am currently a student in Ann Arbor, U.S.A., although I am originally from Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina. I am a native speaker of Bosnian, but I can also communicate in the other two languages of the central south slavic diasystem (more so Croatian than Serbian). I am completely fluent in english, and I am learning to speak french. My interests include writing, history, and architecture. Hobbies include music, journalism, and drawing.

Zarg
History student at Washington University in St. Louis. Stumbled upon this site while I was working on a research paper, found it very informative and helpful. I'm also into computer hardware, science fiction, military warfare, all sorts of science and so on. I hope to add some knowledge to this database very soon.

Hans Stam
Hi everyone,

I am Hans Stam, I am a computer science and software engineering student in a town called Maynooth in Ireland. Originally I'm from holland. I am interested in computers and ofcourse software development. I'd like to write some articles for wikipedia about software development.

Grtz From hans

Hiding
Probably a bit late at doing this, I joined up in April and have got my hands dirty already. I've known about wikipedia for ages, but the fact that there wasn't an entry about Helen Hoyt when I needed one made me take the plunge. I'm mostly into comics. Hiding 13:01, 17 May 2005 (UTC) (that helps doesn't it)

Cosmicpop
Hi Folks

I've been a user of Wikipedia for a a few months now and think I've got some knowledge to depart and share on some subjects, mainly computer, mac, aircraft, space and Wales related.

I think Wikipedia is really amazing, I've spent many a long hour wasting time browsing though its many articles, and encourage as many people as I can to do so too.

James

ashleyisachild
Good morning! I'm an undergraduate at the University of Chicago, majoring in Biology, and I graduate next month. I'm from Glen Rock, NJ, a mostly characterless town near New York.

I don't have any special "areas of knowledge", aside from biology and the sciences in general, and I know lots of random trivia in subjects like linguistics, phonetics, etymologies, geography, Judaism, and... ummm... computers?

Eloquence, articulacy, organization, and clarity are the main things that I have to offer Wikipedia. I pride myself in my ability to communicate things well. I see Wikipedia as a means of getting practice for later in life (not that have a future picked out, but I hope I'll be doing something that requires me to be articulate).

I'm taking a course right now called "The Little Red Schoolhouse: Academic and Professional Writing" which teaches reader-oriented writing. I've always been a fan of effective communication (if even at the expense of esthetic value), but I became so much more enthused about it since I've been taking this course. They teach you things about language structure and function that seem so obvious but aren't. I really feel like I've learned the psychology of how people take in information through language (although I obviously haven't put this into action very much yet).

Ashleyisachild 16:29, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

jcam
hello, my name is jason, although most people simply call me j|"j". "jcam" my initials(i have 2 middle names- in spite of the stereotype of people who have 2+ middle names, i am neither an elitist nor filthy rich although if you wish to help the later to happen, feel free to contact me.) anyway just thought you'd like to know that if you come across any j-cams in your online journeys, it's not a webcam of me. you wouldn't want to see naked, anyway.

i have recently moved to beautiful colorado after living my entire life in the topographically challenged state of florida.I guess i just got sick of the heat and humidity and hurricanes and ho's and... nevermind i got carried away.

I don't want to bore you with the details of my life, you'll just have to wait until I get my user page set up and then I'll help you with your bouts of insomnia.

Anyway, I'll see you guys around.

Jcam 04:59, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Papillon1966
I am a journalist (copy editor/page designer) in California's Central Valley. I am 38, a mother and wife. I came across Wikipedia while doing research after finishing reading The Da Vinci Code. Papillon1966 06:53, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Qitaana
My husband is an avowed Wikipedian, and I thought I might be able to contribute here and there. My background is in statistics. Qitaana 16:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Huw Powell
Hi, I've been randomly browsing Wikipedia ever since some google search brought me to one of the files here a few months ago.

I've made a few small typo/spelling edits anonymously, but thought even if that was all I was doing I should "join up" so I can get feedback on these activities.

And, you never know, I might find myself compelled to add or improve content at some point...

--human 23:46, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

DEDALUS 52 - Introducing myself
DEDALUS 52 - Introducing myself I stumbled into Wikipedia searching the WEB for technical information. Got immediately fascinated by the project, whatever its merit could be: building up a knowledge base as people used to do, chatting and exchanging information around the campsite. My real name is Stefano Selleri, country of origin: Italia (let me use the correct - native - spelling). Graduated in chemistry some twenty-five years ago after a classic studies oriented high school (how many greek translations folks!), I made my career in the field of semiconductor and microelectronics technology. Married, with a son and a daughter, I cultivate many odd interests: photography, sailboating, military aircraft history and technology (1940 - 1960), chinese calligraphy (I spent some time in China owing a to a professional assignment). Now I plan to attend Wikipedia on a regular basis: why? why not? messing around in the WEB is more interesting than staring at a TV set, anyway...

--Stefano 09:41, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Selgeron
I've been reading through wikipedia for a long while now, and though I don't do a lot of edits (usually I'll do a lot of spelling and grammar corrections though) I have done a few paragraphs anon. I am a college major of computer graphic design and animation, living in New York though my home town is in Vermont. I have interest gaming, pencil drawing, painting and digital drawing in all the 2d mediums, so I can write about that. I am also a bit of a history buff, in various areas. I also am very fond of cartoons and tend to know a bit 'too much' about the ones I watch regulary.

Boreanesia
Hi! I'm Danish-Filipino. I'm a sort of wiki-holic. Though I have never created or edited any articles in this wiki, I read it frequently. There's just so much to learn! (I participate in another wiki project -- the Ill Bethisad project).

I'm mainly interested in history, especially Danish colonial history and Filipino history -- but anything historical is of interest. Linguistics is also of interest.

That's it I guess.

Bye!

Boreanesia 09:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

MadGeneticist
Hi. My real name is Alicia, and I have a PhD in molecular genetics. I did my dissertation on asthma genetics, and a friend asked me to work on the Wikipedia asthma entry. I must admit I'd never heard of Wikipedia before, but think it's a brilliant idea and look forward to contributing more in the future.

MadGeneticist 16:06, 26 May 2005 (UTC)MadGeneticist

cheesyamoeba
Active in the studies and research of computational neuroscience, neuropsychology, conitive psychology/neuroscience, and many formulating theories and ideas that have resulted from such studies.

--cheesyamoeba 17:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)cheesyamoeba

Dragonreborn
Hi I'd just like to say that the idea of Wikipedia is an excellent one and I can see that it has the potential to be one of the best resources for information on the internet (if it isnt already). I'm looking forward to contributing to the already vast pool of data and I hope that I can provide some useful additional information.

Dragonreborn 09:07, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Michal Pise
Hi. After being long time user of Wikipedia I finally decided to start contributing. I intend to add some pictures taken during my trips to make Wikipedia more visually appealing.

I'm interested in computer science and economics - currently, I study towards PhD. in computer science and BSc. in economics. I also like science fiction (especially Czech one).

pi 12:58, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

New user: Greg Beeker
I am fairly new to Wikipedia. I work in the banking industry doing Unix System Administration. I live near Detroit, Michigan. My interests include arcade games, computers and music. My plans are to contribute when I can, and add a little here and there. Nice project here, by the way!

Gbeeker 15:22, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Tip of the Hat
Howdy--

Found Wikipedia when I was trying to research the history of network addressing conventions. Of course, then Wikipedia let me find information on haiku, spaceflight, katana, zinfandel, and even cowhands. I'm a former (deep breath) technical writer/editor, aerospace systems engineer, project manager, and Mac consultant. These days I'm focusing on my lifelong passion, educating horses and riders, with an emphasis on the traditional methods of Old California horsemanship. In reality, I have way too many hobbies, and can get fascinated by conversations on topics ranging from Renaissance recorder music to systems studies. I'll read pretty much anything that's written in Roman characters, with little concern as to whether it's a language I actually know. Yes, I am a knowledge junkie. I live 2 hours and a hundred years from San Francisco, and am looking forward to the stimulation of participating in this community. Phetsy 02:49, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

EvilStorm
Hiya, long-time user of Wiki, decided that I ought to finally get down and start helping out too. I'm a high school student, so I can't say I know much, but I figure I'll just tweak stuff here and there until I get the hang of it. Extremely fond of history and philosophy and...old stuff in general, but my interests quite literally spread to everything and anything under the sun. EvilStorm 14:06, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

FD2
Hello everyone. FD2 14:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Elitejeff123
I guess i'm pretty new to Wikipedia. I've been here for about a week, and already I have lots of edits to pages and even posted 2 new articles: Break Quest, and the Pandora's Box (album) article.

I'm a hardcore gamer, and at the same time I like science and philosophy. So i'm a strange mix, basically. In my opinion, wikipedia is basically a perfectionist's encyclopedia. You see a problem, you can fix it right away. I'm pretty close to being a wiki-holic myself. So, basically, that's me. - Elitejeff123 16:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC) (This isn't the actual time I made this, I just forgot to add the tildas until then.)

Andre A. Muliana
My name —which given by my parents and as in the birth certificate— is Andre Ardiantoro. But a few years ago on all my social documents they put the last name of my father —Muliana— at the end. So, here we go: Andre Ardiantoro Muliana. So, what the hack is a2xm? a2xm is just my own attractive modification of the abbreviation of my full name. ;-)

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CAPS LOCK
I'm not really a *new user* per se, since I've been editing anonymously for quite some time... But I've just recently gotten an account, so yeah... Anyway, I'm a FORTRAN programmer and I spend way to much time on RC patrol. CAPS LOCK 21:55, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Mariposa
Greetings, I am student. I learned of Wikipedia through my history professor. I like whales, I know some esperanto. i love wikipedia deeply

Columbia
Hello! :-) I registered on Wikipedia in mid-April, but have only recently began editing regularly. I am 28, female, and live in the Charlotte, North Carolina area. I am a huge country music fan, and many of my edits are to country music articles, including creating the Josh Turner article. I have enjoyed my time on Wikipedia, and hope to become a regular contributer. Columbia 04:37, May 31, 2005 (UTC)


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National Baptist Convention

National Baptist Convention may refer to:

 * National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc., the oldest and largest denomination using this name
 * National Baptist Convention of America, Inc., formed in 1915 as a result of a split within the association now called National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc.
 * Progressive National Baptist Convention, formed in 1961 as a result of a split within the National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc.
 * National Missionary Baptist Convention of America, formed in 1988 as a result of a split within the National Baptist Convention of America, Inc.
 * Joint National Baptist Convention, an event held periodically in which the above conventions meet

 * National Baptist Convention, Brazil

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USS Rapidan

USS Rapidan (AO-18), was a US Navy tanker of World War II.

Rapidan was built under U.S. Shipping Board contract by the Newport News Shipbuilding & Dry Dock Co., Newport News, Virginia. It was launched on 25 October 1919 transferred to the Navy in October 1921; and commissioned as a US Navy vessel on 1 January 1922.

Assigned to the Naval Transport Service, Rapidan remained in commission for only 6 months, most of which was spent at Norfolk. Rapidan was decommissioned on 22 June 1922 and was berthed with the James River Group, Atlantic Reserve Fleet, until it was recommissioned on 22 January 1940.

For the 18 months following her second commissioning, Rapidan carried fuel from the Texas oil ports to ships and stations in the Caribbean and along the U.S. Atlantic coast.

Between September 1941 and November 1942, she supplied petroleum products to Atlantic Fleet units at Halifax, Canada, Naval Station Argentia, Newfoundland, Reykjavík and Hvalfjörður in Iceland, and various ports in Greenland. Then, after overhaul, she served as escort oiler on a convoy to Casablanca. On her return to New York, in early February 1943, Rapidan resumed operations off the northeast coast, steaming between New York, Boston, Portland, Maine, and Argentia until April when she got underway for her first Mediterranean convoy. Fueling units en route, she arrived at Gibraltar on 24 May, continued on to Oran in French North Africa, discharged her cargo, then returned to the United States and coastal operations. In July while at Norfolk Naval Shipyard, Rapidan had new, secret, Mark 29 "anti-torpedo" gear installed. In September she resumed operations in the Caribbean and on the 11th was damaged by an underwater explosion some 100 yards off the starboard quarter from a torpedo detonated by the anti-torpedo gear which resulted in damage to the hull plates. Repairs were completed at Charleston; and, on the 25th, she resumed her oil runs, operating as far south as the Netherlands West Indies, and as far north as Argentia.

In March 1944 Rapidan was ordered to the Pacific. Transiting the Panama Canal on 19 March, she steamed up the west coast to Seattle, whence she carried her liquid cargo to Kodiak, Cold Bay, Dutch Harbor, and other Aleutian ports. Including periodic assignments as station tanker at Attu and Adak, the oiler continued on the Alaskan shuttle until 28 June 1946. Then, ordered back to the east coast, she transited the Panama Canal 2 August an on 11 August reported to the 5th Naval District for inactivation.

Rapidan was decommissioned on 17 September 1946 at Portsmouth, Virginia, and transferred to the Maritime Commission on18 September 1946. Her name was struck from the Navy List 29 October 1946 and on 10 September 1947 she was sold to Northern Metals Co. for scrap.

Monticello Miracle
In 2006, a horse racing track in Monticello, New York was the site of the so-called miracle, in which a racehorse hit veteran Don Karkos in the exact spot where he had been injured by shrapnel and lost sight in one of his eyes during his time on USS Rapidan. This blow caused him to regain his sight, most likely by dislodging the shrapnel.

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Ian Hogg (actor)

Alexander Ian Hogg (born 1 August 1937) is an English actor.

Early life
Alexander Ian Hogg was born in Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, the son of Ena Mary (Robinson) and Walter Alexander Hogg, a doctor. He was educated at Durham School and Durham University ( St John's College ), where he graduated in 1959 with a Bachelor of Arts degree. He then studied at the Central School of Speech and Drama under the direction of Yat Malmgren and later joined the Royal Shakespeare Company. He has an older sister called Thelma Hogg (Hoggie).

Television, film and stage
Hogg is best known for his lead role in the BBC1 television series Rockliffe's Babies and its follow-up Rockliffe's Folly, playing Detective Sergeant Alan Rockliffe. He has played many television roles, appearing as Purishkevich in the film Rasputin: Dark Servant of Destiny (1996), as Mike Cherry in EastEnders (1999), and as Alois Hitler in Hitler: The Rise of Evil (2003). Other television roles include the BBC's second dramatisation of Charles Dickens' Bleak House (1985) as Inspector Bucket, and Doctor Who as the villain Josiah Samuel Smith in the serial Ghost Light (1989). He continued an association with Doctor Who by voicing the part of General Voshkar in The Sandman, a spin-off audio drama produced in 2002 by Big Finish Productions. In 2002, he played the role of Ian Lane in the second episode of the first series of Foyle's War, entitled "The White Feather".

Hogg played a chechaquo (newcomer) to the Yukon in To Build A Fire, the film of Jack London's short story, in 1969. He played the role of Edmund in Peter Brook's 1971 film version of Shakespeare's King Lear, and his other film credits include Marat/Sade (1967), Tell Me Lies (1968), The Last Valley (1971), The Hireling (1973), Dead Cert (1974), Hennessy (1975), The Legacy (1978), Lady Jane (1986), Little Dorrit (1987), and The Pleasure Principle (1992).

In the summer of 2008, Hogg played in repertory in Scarborough, North Yorkshire, at the Stephen Joseph Theatre, under the artistic direction of Alan Ayckbourn. In 2010, Hogg appeared as the sensitive protagonist Murray in the Student Academy Award-nominated short, The Miserables. He played Sam in the drama film Sink (2018).

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Talk:Johannesburg Stock Exchange

I propose that this be moved to JSE Securities Exchange, with the JSE redirect adjusted accordingly. Dewet 20:52, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Quelea

Quelea is a genus of small passerine birds that belongs to the weaver family Ploceidae, confined to Africa. These are small-sized, sparrow- or finch-like gregarious birds, with bills adapted to eating seeds. Queleas may be nomadic over vast ranges; the red-billed quelea is said to be the most numerous bird species in the world.

Taxonomy
There are three species:

Phylogeny
Based on recent DNA-analysis, the red-billed quelea is sister to a clade that consist of both remaining species of the genus Quelea, namely Q. cardinalis and Q. erythrops. The genus belongs to the group of true weavers (subfamily Ploceinae), and is most related to Foudia, a genus of six or seven species that occur on the islands of the western Indian Ocean. This clade is sister to the Asian species of the genus Ploceus.

The following tree represents current insight of the relationships between the species of Quelea, and their closest relatives.

Impact on agriculture
Q. quelea is a major pest to small-grain cereal crops in much of sub-Saharan Africa; the kernels of corn are too big for it. Q. erythrops may cause substantial damage to rice. Q. cardinalis is not known to raid crops.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Qur'an desecration at Guantánamo Bay

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Already deleted when I got here. Golbez 01:13, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Qur'an desecration at Guantánamo Bay
Attempt by an editor to fork the lengthy and well-supported article called Allegations of Qur'an desecration at Guantánamo Bay with a POV version.--Lee Hunter 20:54, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - Apparent POV fork. Content disputes need to be worked out in the article. --FCYTravis 21:01, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge - I created it to thwart the bias in the main article. Contributors have openly said they intend to limit the scope of the article to US abuse of the Koran. Either they must permit the Pentagon POV to be described there, or in a side bar article. (By the way "POV" is not the same as bias.) -- Uncle Ed (talk) 21:04, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * In fact that's not true at all. What's been happening is that Ed has been trying to make prisoner abuse of the Koran the main focus of the article - at one point he went so far as to remove the military abuse of the Koran from the intro and replaced it with prisoner abuse of the Koran. Other editors readily accept that the prisoner abuse should be mentioned within the article but find it distinctly odd that it should be elevated to the central issue when the world at large is not discussing it. --Lee Hunter 21:13, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * If I did, it was accidental (or more likely, temporary). I mentioned in talk that I want a balance. Where do you want the prisoner abuse of the Koran to be mentioned? In the same article as the US military abuse, or in a separate article? It's got to go somewhere. -- Uncle Ed (talk) 22:02, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete - POV fork. The notable story is about desecration of the Koran by US personnel. Alleged "abuse" by detainees hasn't really got much to do with anything. It barely merits a mention in the original article. 80.203.115.12 21:30, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, POV fork. --Angr/undefined 21:54, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to main article.--Kross 22:00, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, POV fork. RickK 22:03, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

Consensus here is in direct conflict with consensus at the main article. But I guess this vote trumps that vote, so I'm deleting. -- Uncle Ed (talk) 23:45, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

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 * Comment. The editor has deleted it. However, for the record there have been far more occasions of prisoners at Guantanamao Bay desecrating the Qu'ran than the one or two occasions it has been harmed by the guards. Al Queda members are trained to make allegations of abuse while in custody and any allegations have been thoroughly investigated. Unfortunately, the media doesn't seem to be interested in offering fair coverage of this so I agree with Ed Poor that the bulk of the article should be about the actions of the detainees. Capitalistroadster 03:18, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Really Capitalist? I didn't know that you spent that much time at Gitmo so that you could be so certain that what the U.S. military has reported is the truth.  Even the Red Cross has had trouble getting access to that prison.  I'm impressed that you have such unimpeachable inside information.  Quale 23:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Allegations of Qur'an desecration (disambiguation)
 * Comment It's already been deleted, but for what it's worth, forking an article for any reason, even NPOV, is considered very poor policy.  ral  315  13:18, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Qur'an desecration controversy of 2005. As some incidents have been confirmed, it is no longer alleged. — RJH 14:54, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect, or move Qur'an desecration controversy of 2005 to this name. -Sean Curtin 01:03, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.  Please do not edit this page .


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Talk:Pope Pius XII/Archive 1

Page Protection request removed
I have removed the request concerning this page and Benedict XVI Theology. I do this because I have finished the discussion. All readers should note that at last some information is allowed to balance the article. If the apologists will refrain from their  censoring edits, I shall be able to remove myself. I ask that the discussion concerning intervention in the Civil Order be allowed to remain for the sufficient period  as instructional and relevant and even handed. I think it should be added to Benedict's Theology discussion pages as relevant to his rule  and if there is someone  who agrees with the necessity, I ask them to do so. The present state of this article on Pius XII justifies my intervention as  balance is now being allowed. A new user could perhaps fairly attempt to erase unwelcome references but all current users  here  should accept the validity of this balance  now and preserve this state .Flamekeeper 09:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Pope Pius XII Bashing
(Actually, Pope Pius XII was a documented Nazi sympathiser, both by historical and photographic account.

He used the Nazis as a method of exterminating the Serbs (of which over one million (1,000,000) were massacred during World War II.

Adolf Hitler, apparently, was a devout Catholic:

“I am completely convinced that I am acting as the agent of God. I am now a Catholic and will always remain so.”

— Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" (Hitler was never excommunicated by the Vatican. Mein Kampf was never banned by The Church.)

Reference:

"Hitler’s Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII", by John Cornwell

The Vatican’s Holocaust (online book) by Avro Manhattan published by: Ozark Books, Springfield, Missouri, http://www.reformation.org/holocaus.html )

 * above comment moved from article.
 * I think the answer is that this is an interesting point of view, and one that should be in the article - attributed to named advocates, such as John Cornwell. Wikipedia cannot call people Nazi sympathisers, but we can report on accusations made by other people. Martin 09:37, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)

(from talk:Catholicism) I removed the section that follows from Catholicism It contains strong POV / unsupported claims that Catholicism and Nazism are strongly intertwined. Anyhow, judge for yourselves and discuss. --Zippy 06:41, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)

 * Unsupported? He gives two references - that's not unsupported.
 * However, comments on a single pope are better placed here than at Catholicism. Martin 09:42, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)

 * Well, my reading of the quotation from Mein Kampf was that he was providing evidence in Trollish :).

 * For anyone who wants to spend some time reading up on the matter, this report, by a panel of three Catholic and three Jewish academics (no atheists :|), seems like a useful source. Interestingly, the Vatican has not responded to those requests.  -- Pde 12:43, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)

 * FWIW, to get a proper perspective on Pius XII and his relationships with the several Fascist dictators, you have to trace Vatican politics back at least to the period of the French Revolution and the Italian Risorgimento. Pius XII's chummyness with the Nazis and with Fascist dictators was in fact founded on the traditional politics and policies of the Papacy.  This material probably does indeed belong in Catholicism, or better yet, in an article on Roman Catholic Church separate from Catholicism. -- IHCOYC 13:31, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)

What was removed and is at the top of the page here is simplistic and one sided and has no place in that form in any encyclopædia. The issue needs discussing but in a proper, professional NPOV manner. I think it would make more sense to put the issue in a broader narrative perspective as IHCOYC observed, perhaps Roman Catholicism and right wing politics. FearÉIREANN 18:51, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Further to the above:

Most of the "Hitler's Views" section is problematic. Observe:

 * "Hitler apparently had no problems with Catholicism, however:

 * “I am completely convinced that I am acting as the agent of God. I am now a Catholic and will always remain so.”

 * — Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

Hitler's opinion of his own Catholicism has nothing to do with Pius XII, does it? (Especially without mentioning that Hitler later reviled Christianity as a "lie" and an "invention of the Jew".)

 * "Hitler was never excommunicated by the Vatican[. . .]"

True, but Catholics argue that his actions and words would have incurred automatic (latae sententiae) excommunication. Also Stalin's question "How many divisions has the Pope?" is relevant; excommunicating Hitler would have been effective suicide.

 * "[. . .]and so remains officially Catholic to this day..."

The Church cannot excommunicate anyone posthumously. It can declare after someone's death that s/he had incurred automatic excommunication -- but that's not quite the same thing.

 * "In addition, Mein Kampf was never banned by The Church."

Lots of books were never banned by the Church. Does this mean that the Church endorses those books? No, it does not.

 * "It is not clear what the intentions of the Church were in this particular inaction, but it is unlikely that the merely overlooked such a prominent figure as Hitler..."

That's just opinion masquerading as fact. Who says that? What are the other explanations given?

So I'm going to strike out this section. It might be relevant elsewhere (in an examination of Hitler's religious views, perhaps), but it has no place here.

--Mirv 05:08, 16 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Pope Pius XII Compared to Hitler and Stalin
The sway that religion has on society makes me sick, to be honest. This entry was justified the same way that defacing Adolf Hitler or Stalin is justified. Any truely objective encyclopaedia would at least detail Pius' 'alleged' involvement with the Nazis... Considering the fact that there are photographs of the Pope meeting with Hitler, however, it's a little difficult to give into the delusion that he didn't at least have some Nazi ties.

If you want to know my honest opinion, I think that unfortunately, because of the Catholic religion, we at wikipedia are being coerced to make Pius XII look better than he actually was. This is the same sort of thing that happened in the Soviet Union to anyone who criticised Stalin even after Kruschev had reversed his plans. Stalin was still regarded as a hero of the RELIGION known as the Soviet Union, people didn't want to give up their delusion that he was a good man, and as a result, to this day, Communist fundamentalists go on about how Stalin was a wonderful leader, as opposed to what he was almost certainly--a brutal and psychopathic dictator responsible either directly or indirectly for the deaths of some 20 million souls.

Incorruption
I've removed the following: '' In Roman Catholic lore, "incorruption", the miraculous preservation of a body from decomposition, is held to be a confirmation of sanctity; cf. Bernadette Soubirous.''

That is simply wrong. "Incorruption" may be read as evidence of sanctity, but its absence does not mean evidence to the contrary. Many reasons may cause incorruption - type of soil in which the corpse is buried, type of coffin used, the use of preservatives on the remains prior to burial, etc. In catholic theological belief (not lore) an incorrupt body must have no contributing natural or chemical factors that can explain its state. In Pius's case, we simply do know what state it is currently in. All we do know is that a botched job occured when an attempt was made to preserve it prior to the lying-in-state; some form of preservation usage is standard practice with papal corpses given the numbers of people who may want to see the body during its lying-in-state; papal corpses usually are forced to undergo more exposure to air (in particular the hot temperatures of Rome) over a longer period than any other corpse, most of whose lying-in-states (eg, the Queen Mother's, US presidents, etc) take place in sealed coffins. The Vatican was quick to point out that no special meaning should be attached to the preserved state of John XIII's body when it was removed from its coffin prior to his beatification, for it had received a light wax spray prior to display in 1963 and had been buried in air-tight triple coffins. So taking Pius XII's immediate decomposition as evidence, or implied evidence, of lack of sanctity, is simply mischevious agenda-pushing nonsense. All it indicates is a botched job at preservation and nothing to do which his state of sanctity, whether good, bad or indifferent. FearÉIREANN 18:46, 9 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Unfair Links
Clearly the list of links shows how biased this article is. I think a fair approach would include at least a few of the numerous websites that are critical of Pius XII. There appear to be very few if any of these.

One link should be removed and that is of the "article" by Ian Paisley which is clearly a biased piece of slander and should not be included as it sheds no light on Pius XII. --Frankrig 05:55, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Dispute : The Concordat
The anonymous edit of 23.15 hrs 01 April 05 was not minor and seriously affected the historical facts in this matter to do with Cardinal Pacelli. Of all the dates and meetings and communications removed, only the 1932 reference  to Pacelli is anecdotal  and refers to page 209 from the journalist Edgar Ansel Mowrer's Triumph and Turmoil ISBN 04 92 00267 , when Mowrer interrogates his assistant Otto Brok about the Secretary of State in Rome's  letter read out by Monsignor Ludwig Kaas as party leader to the Zentrumspartei or Catholic Centre Party leadership. Mowrer introduces this by saying that the Communist gains  in the  May 1932 elections  to the Prussian Landstag, only set the stage for a further betrayal, this time of the Catholics. Alleged or anecdotal ,it was reported as a secret meeting  and Mowrer was ( and is ) respected worldwide by all (except Hitler). This present editing, along with the complex and detailed timeline  removed by the anonymous , removes from this encyclopedia the actual movements and meetings and communications undertaken as matters of historical fact. Their removal is not justified and their protection is. This becomes a case of Dispute and the wikipedia can no more ignore this than can the Church. Adjudication is required, and there are many historians on these pages , for what is a most crucially important political matter. It constitutes the abdication of Democracy by itself, - or its death by conspiracy , and it is the turning point around which all modern history revolves. This famous and mysterious abdication in the face of evil, as referred to in the late Pope John Paul II's recent book Memoria  e Identidad is the weak brick in the foundations of our time and we can permit ourselves no amount of obfuscatory self-exculpation( ie hiding). Until is is accepted, it remains a dispute  but it is not an allegation : it is a denial of inconvenient truth  which makes a mockery of all that is  good and true .Tolerance of un-truth is poison and this particular poison is in need of clearance and purgation. We cannot understand our world and why we come to this present if we hide the past which led to World War II, the Holocaust ,the Nuclear Arms Race , the Space Race, European Partition , the Fall of Communism, the Middle East Crisis and the present evolving world order where balance of power and  all our technologies  have evolved from the wartime results of this  arrangement  of the Concordat .Flamekeeper

 * Flamekeeper, it's hard for me to understand what you are saying.
 * First of all, you aren't clear about what edit you are objecting to. Each Wikipedia viewer sees the times on the History page in their own time zone, so when you refer to "the anonymous edit of 23.15 hrs 01 April 05" I suspect you must mean the the second-from-the-bottom edit by 24.91.137.38 on that date, since this is the only edit that I see where the timestamp ends in :15.  (Here in Seattle it shows as 15:15, 1 Apr 2005."  I ran a diff of this and he changed "Nazi's" to "Nazis and".  I agree that the meaning is changed, but since the old version was grammatically incorrect I feel this is not a big deal.
 * Actually - most of the time people are refering to the UTC time which is what will display unless you go into your Preferences click "Time Zone" and put in an offset - I am guessing that one of you has done this - thus the time matching is off - may I suggest that you both not have an offset so that it is easier to communicate Trödel| talk 13:28, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * But it occurs to me that you might be objecting to the combination of all four of 24.91.137.38's edits on that date. These do include some substantial changes.
 * In summary: The first half of your paragraph above makes no sense to me, because I cannot identify the specific edit you are disputing.  The second half of your paragraph is a rant that doesn't address the point of a dispute.  You can't dispute a page because it makes you angry; you can only dispute it because you believe it is factually incorrect, or because it distorts history by overemphasizing or underemphasizing key points.
 * Lawrence King 10:51, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * In summary: The first half of your paragraph above makes no sense to me, because I cannot identify the specific edit you are disputing.  The second half of your paragraph is a rant that doesn't address the point of a dispute.  You can't dispute a page because it makes you angry; you can only dispute it because you believe it is factually incorrect, or because it distorts history by overemphasizing or underemphasizing key points.
 * Lawrence King 10:51, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Lawrence King 10:51, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I claim that many of the edits made since I tried to fill in the historical facts of meetings result in a distortion of history. Therefore I have shortened the interpolation of those outstanding facts  and equally  simplified the  distortionate  assertions  since  included. I feel this to have been even-handed as the facts are already for some time accepted on the main nazi party page, (which should be but isn't  called the nazi party page but the national socialist party of germany, thus confusing modern readers ), I have given lengthy notice for my disputation of the intervening Pius XII page , I have provided sufficient info on the Centre Party (Germany) page, and all in all tried to allow the world a glimpse of its own history. You are quite correct that the time and particular edit I referred to was incorrect. I don't know how this can be resolved. Has one to simply list all the myriad  books which have never quite understood this explosive connection in order to show that not only was it insufficiently understood or recognised but also carefully obfuscated by clearly interested parties ? Do I need to list all the urls to sites revealing the clear criticism of this history, mostly relevant to acts of murder we  term the holocaust ? I said some time ago that historians should intervene and I am not comfortable in assuming any such mantle. I can only hope that this present move will indeed lead to a complete resolution of this  dispute such that the history becomes clear and un-disputed. I cannot however accept that it is simply obfuscated -can I  or can you ? Flamekeeper

 * No need to provide URLs. Can you state, very briefly, what facts are in dispute?  Or if you prefer, can you tell me which claims on the Pius XII page are things you disagree with?
 * You say that these facts are "already for some time accepted on the main nazi party page". But it would take me a while to read that entire page and the entire Pius XII page and look for contradictions. It's easier if you tell me.
 * I'm not asking you to defend your view: just say what it is.
 * Thanks! Lawrence King 04:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not asking you to defend your view: just say what it is.
 * Thanks! Lawrence King 04:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Lawrence King 04:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The "urban legend" for Papal involvement with the Nazis is expanded upon the Centre Party (Zentrum)page where  references and  facts are provided  sufficient to warrant  the  case. Flamekeeper 21:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Relations with Mussolini
The bulk of this write up focuses on his relationship with Germany during WWII. What of Mussolini and Italian Fascists? There is only one reference to Mussolini in the article and The Vatican is, after all, surrounded by Italy. Can someone with the knowledge fill this in? --Discordian 14:29, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

Why was this page locked?
"Flamekeeper" locked this page on 13 April and said it was because of a dispute, "see the talk page".

This Talk page has had no new entries since 8 April. How are we to know which of the many disputes on the Talk page need to be resolved before the page will be unlocked?

Lawrence King 10:41, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * If it were in fact Flamekeeper who locked this page, this would appear to be a violation of Protection policy, where it is written:
 * Admins should not protect pages which they have been involved with (involvement includes making substantive edits to the page or expressing opinions about the article on the talk page).
 * Since Flamekeeper has added comments to the talk page and been involved in editing the page, he should not have locked it if it were in fact him; he should have requested that some other admin review the situation and lock the page. I would suggest calling attention to this on the talk pages of the policy article.  -- Smerdis of Tlön 14:41, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry for the mistake in Etiquette - I wish to make no mockery . I was trying to help by calling your attention to this . As I have remarked in the past, the wikipedia is at times syndicating complete falsehood which is thereby re-inforced . Everyone will be most re-assured if  the administration can decide even in  this one case what needs to be protected . I certainly will have caused much harm if my etiquette  distracts from the essential dispute -which remains to be addressed . Flamekeeper

 * Why not unlock the page then - and clearly identify what portions you object to on the talk page so they can be discussed. It's been locked for 5 hours for no reason Trödel| talk 15:44, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * The page is editable I just noticed that the Edit this page link was active at the top instead of the View Source of a normal protected page - looks like User:Flamekeeper is having fun - I removed the false protected notice at the top - so edit away. Trödel| talk 16:00, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * None of this subject is funny . I clearly labelled the dispute as being with the concordat .History and goodwill objects to all of the Concordat and to that  which is a carefully crouched  repair of my earlier  corrections. I earnestly  ask  someone  to protect this page  in the absence of discussion  and resolution . I think it was quite clear  what I was trying to protect - the history and consequences of the Concordat and the Church's relationship with  the Nazi party . Evidently no one else shares my indignation , which becomes a question in itself .Flamekeeper

 * The proper page for requesting protection is: requests for page protection. However, I don't think protection is necessary - this page does not have the type of revert war going on that usually warants protection. The controversy re Nazi Germany seems to be covered - though the language could probalby be tightened some - there is no reason to protect the page. see the protection policy for more info Trödel| talk 18:10, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, Trödel, for your intervention here.

Flamekeeper, I think you need to be more clear in your edits. I am a fairly well educated native speaker of English, and I find your prose very hard to read. You wrote above, "I clearly labelled the dispute as being with the concordat". Sorry, but you didn't. When you added the "protected" label, all that appeared on the history page was the following text:

02:27, 13 Apr 2005  Flamekeeper   (protected ~ )

The four tildes ( ~ ) appeared literally in your comment, which might indicate you didn't realize that this sign is not expanded in edit summaries.

Also, in talk pages like this one it's best to use colons to indent your comments so that each user's comments line up correctly. I added colons to your comments above to make this section more readable.

Just some constructive advice, because I think your frustration is due to the fact that you think people are ignoring you, when in reality they might just find your writing difficult to read. Taking a bit more time will make it easier for all of us! Because in the end, all of us share your hope that "the history becomes clear and un-disputed".

Lawrence King 04:55, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes! The page is quite balanced at this point-but can we avoid another editing war? I should have reverted and I can't agree with Trodl so easily-surely you all see  the requirements of the situation ? The language I use tries to communicate the maximum to those who are actively concerned . If this issue were not prohibited  from discussion-if the documents were released, if it didn't  lead where it lead  then it wouldn't instill indignation . As it is  I am re-assured by your presences  which might frustrate future propagandising  and I'll happily leave it to you to revert as it is required . I don't want to be the one constantly casting the stone , but the wikipedia needs to keep in step with reality and the reality is that there is a lot of indignation  out there . The other reality is that the  relevant bodies do not seem at all to wish to confront their  'evolution' but rather happily consider that they can revise history to suit their case . If I am historically incorrect I serve no virtuous purpose but  revisionism erupts constantly . The logic of the situation following WW II is that our world is heading for a 'truth and reconciliation' scenario which will come with a future  UN-type universal body . The culpability extends far from this  page  and into the realms of globalised capital , but the reconciliation  will have to be cognisant of all the factors  including this page  and extend from the 1st World unto the bottom . The  apparent victory of Capital as opposed to Ideology  will be short-lived  and the body in question here  will play its part  by recognising the 3rd World in its own way now . Only a 3rd world Pontiff will possesss the sufficient distance from such a severely tainted history  to survive the scrutiny that will come .I humbly suggest that the new Ideology wil be simply human and incorporate all our extending  bio-chemical knowledge . The economic side will however require fundamental  change and such mental change will require the con-version of all beneficial  social organisation into a unity  .This page is  vitally important for an understanding of this future . Flamekeeper

Memoria e Identidad title and relevance
This book has now been published in English as Memory and Identity. Any particular reason why it's preferred to name the book in Spanish? (Not Italian; "identity" there is identità; though I'm not sure why this has e instead of y, which is the usual Spanish for "and".) -- Smerdis of Tlön 19:30, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * The main relevance of the book to this article is that this use of the  Enabling Act by way of an example in it shows the continuing  lack of understanding  of the shattering consequences of Pacelli's involvement . Separately, in the secret annexe to the Concordat, padres may perhaps include religious or monks rather than just  priests -in which case it could be more accurate to stick with that  term . As well as this it is a fact ( upon which Hochhuth based his play) that the Holy See invested heavily in German Industry following its settlement(by sale)  of the Papal Lands  outside the Vatican . It would be logical to believe that Pacelli was  just partly blinded (as were so, so many other investors ) by these interests . It would be reasonable overall in fact to conclude that Pacelli mistook the size of the Devil  with whom he supped  and that his spoon was  too short, and that he spent all his following years  in greatest  regret .It is undoubtedly true that the Church was desirous throughout the centuries of formal recognition by the german states .However it appears from all sides that hitherto there is no willingness to confront this  Concordat ( and its dependant  Holocaust) issue , but  only a continuation of Cardinal Pacelli's silence . Of course infallibility when wrong and un-sustainable  needs a solution that is not available within  that self-same  creed of infallibility . It is truly an impossible position  as  movement forward contradicts the teaching , and movement backward in time is unavailable . Hitherto the option has been to side-step and divert  but  now what  ? Lastly  it is reasonable to note that there has been a  change in the wikipages relevant to the Church , and it is reasonable to presume that this might  follow upon the recent Vatican conference rapidly  held to analyse the new  media  means for  dissemination .That  which  is empowering and democratising  in the wikipedia  represents a great challenge and  , on this page, a danger  but it  also provides the  means for  concerted  action by groups . This present page is now a litmus test on several strategic levels  .Flamekeeper

 * I understand its relevance. What I want to know is why the title is given in another language on the English language Wikipedia when the book has an official English title.  If there's some technical reason to do so, by all means go ahead.  Perhaps "the religious", which can mean "members of religious communities" in English, might be a more formal fit than "padres" BTW. -- Smerdis of Tlön 18:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This was the title used first by the  euronews  TV channel  which provided a report of the  contested  attack by Pope John Paul II on democracy  is the reason. Perhaps they had some cause or it is a confusion of tongues .Flamekeeper 21:38, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Page Protection
Following the repeated  anon whitewashing of the  complicity described  within the article , page Protection has been sought .Intervening  recent edits have been minor in comparison .Flamekeeper 07:29, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Baron Ferrers of Groby

Baron Ferrers of Groby (or Baron Ferrers de Groby) was a title in the Peerage of England. It was created by writ on 29 December 1299 when William Ferrers, 1st Baron Ferrers of Groby was summoned to parliament. He was the son of Sir William de Ferrers, Knt., of Groby, Leicestershire, (d.1287) by his first wife Anne Durward, 2nd daughter of Alan Durward and his wife Margery of Scotland, and grandson of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby. The first Baron was married to Ellen de Menteith, daughter of Alexander, Earl of Menteith. In 1475 the eighth baron was created the Marquess of Dorset, and the barony in effect merged with the marquessate. It was forfeited along with the marquessate when the third marquess was attainted in 1554.

Barons Ferrers of Groby (1300)

 * William Ferrers, 1st Baron Ferrers of Groby (1272–1325)
 * Henry Ferrers, 2nd Baron Ferrers of Groby (1303–1343)
 * William Ferrers, 3rd Baron Ferrers of Groby (1333–1372)
 * Henry Ferrers, 4th Baron Ferrers of Groby (1356–1388)
 * William Ferrers, 5th Baron Ferrers of Groby (1373–1445)
 * Elizabeth Ferrers, 6th Baroness Ferrers of Groby (1419–1483)
 * Edward Grey, 6th Baron Ferrers of Groby (c. 1415–1457) was summoned to parliament in right of his wife from 14 December 1446 to 26 May 1455 (women were not permitted to attend in their own right)
 * John Bourchier, 6th Baron Ferrers of Groby (died 1495), second husband of the 6th Baroness, also held the title in right of his wife from 1462 to her death in 1483
 * Thomas Grey, 7th Baron Ferrers of Groby (1451–1501) (created Marquess of Dorset, 1475), was the son of Sir John Grey of Groby, who was the son of the 6th Baroness and her first husband
 * Thomas Grey, 8th Baron Ferrers of Groby, 2nd Marquess of Dorset (1472–1530) was summoned to parliament as Baron Ferrers of Groby in 1509
 * Henry Grey, 9th Baron Ferrers of Groby, 1st Duke of Suffolk (1517–1554)

The barony was forfeit in 1554, when the Duke of Suffolk was tried for high treason and executed.

Barons Grey of Groby

 * Henry Grey (c. 1547–1614), nephew of Henry Grey Duke of Suffolk, was created Baron Grey of Groby, 21 July 1603.
 * Henry Grey, 2nd Baron Grey of Groby (c. 1600–1673) (created Earl of Stamford in 1628)

For further holders of the title see Earl of Stamford

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dick's Creek Baptist Church

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep (no consensus). Sjakkalle (Check!)  13:32, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Dick's Creek Baptist Church
Non-notable Church in non-notable town. Nothing links to it, no outgoing links. Pointless article Bobbis 20:55, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to Jackson County, North Carolina Barely relevant on its own, but perhaps it would be useful in its county's article -- RussellG 09:05, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, just as important to have every church that ever existed as it is to have every school that ever existed. RickK 22:04, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Observation: fails google test. Ambush Commander 23:04, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per RickK. I got this one hit (with Yahoo): so it does seem to exist. Kappa 23:58, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, 102 year-old churchs are significant enough, let's have more. --Zero 00:16, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete for the same reason RickK says keep. (I.e., it isn't that important.) --Xcali 04:00, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete notability not established. JamesBurns 06:14, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and Delete. There's plenty of room at Jackson County, North Carolina for this blurb, if the building or congregation are at all notable. (Note to RickK, The sarcastic use of converse accident is an unconvincing deductive fallacy and seems to be backfiring.) Dystopos 23:36, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep democracys 00:49, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * User ID created in November of 2003, only one edit until today, all edits today to VfD pages. RickK 04:55, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to Jackson County, North Carolina (leaving the requisite redirect, of course). -- Jonel | Speak 03:25, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable. Radiant_ >|< 10:02, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Rick's comments. --Centauri 04:33, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, doesn't indicate notability. Gazpacho 02:36, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, churches are generally notable (especially 100+ year old ones), wikipedia is not paper, etc etc etc . . . - Jersyko talk  14:46, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I agree with Jersyko. -- Zantastik talk  22:54, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * ''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be placed on a related article talk page, if one exists; in an undeletion request, if it does not; or below this section.


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Abu Hassan

Abu Hassan (J. 106) is a comic opera in one act by Carl Maria von Weber to a German libretto by Franz Carl Hiemer, based on a story in One Thousand and One Nights. It was composed between 11 August 1810 and 12 January 1811 and has set numbers with recitative and spoken dialogue. The work is a Singspiel in the then popular Turkish style.

Performance history
Abu Hassan was first performed at the Residenz Theater in Munich on 4 June 1811, conducted by the composer. In London, it was produced in English at Theatre Royal, Drury Lane in 1835, and in Italian at Drury Lane on 12 May 1870 (at the same time as Mozart's L'oca del Cairo), the translation being made by Salvatore Marchesi (librettist), and the dialogue set to recitative by Luigi Arditi.

Abu Hassan is not now part of the commonly performed operatic repertory, though it is sometimes staged. The overture is, however, well known and has been recorded separately many times.

Synopsis
Abu Hassan, a favorite of the Caliph of Baghdad, is heavily in debt. To retrieve his fortunes, he sends his wife Fatime to the Caliph's wife, Zobeide, to announce his (Hassan's) death, for which Fatime will receive 50 pieces of gold and a piece of brocade. After Fatime has set off, creditors enter Abu Hassan's house to collect money. Omar, the richest creditor, is tricked into believing that Fatime has spoken to him of love, so he agrees to pay all the other creditors.

Fatime returns with the presents from Zobeide. Abu Hassan now goes to visit the Caliph, intending to try a similar story about his wife and get money from him. While he is out, Omar reappears and demands a kiss from Fatime, but Abu Hassan returns. Omar hides in an adjoining room, and the husband and wife enjoy his fear of being discovered.

Now Mesrur, a messenger from the Caliph, arrives, to see if Fatime really is dead. Both the Caliph and his wife want to know who it was who died, and if both, who died first. Mesrur, seeing Fatime lying on the divan, her husband in apparent distress at her side, runs back to tell the Caliph. He has only just gone, when Zobeide's nurse runs in on a similar errand. This time it is Hassan who feigns death, while Fatime is all tears and lamenting.

Finally the Caliph and his wife are announced. Hassan and Fatime throw themselves on the divan, covering themselves, as if dead. The Caliph now offers 1,000 gold pieces to anyone who will tell him which of them died first. Hassan revives and throws himself at the Caliph's feet, saying "It was me – I died first!" He asks for a pardon, as well as the gold. Fatime does likewise, and the Caliph pardons them both. Omar, having paid off Hassan's debts in the hope of winning Fatime's heart, is sent away in disgrace.

Recordings
The opera has been recorded by Wolfgang Sawallisch, Leopold Ludwig, Gustav Kuhn and Gennady Rozhdestvensky, the last in Russian. A recording by Heinz Rögner with the Staatskapelle Dresden features Ingeborg Hallstein, Peter Schreier and Theo Adam (RCA Classic / Sony BMG). Cappella Coloniensis, conducted by Bruno Weil, recorded it in 2003.

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Samuel Friedel

Samuel Nathaniel Friedel (April 18, 1898 – March 21, 1979), a Democrat, was a U.S. Congressman who represented the 7th congressional district of Maryland from January 3, 1953 to January 3, 1971.

Born in Washington, D.C., to Russian-Jewish immigrants, Friedel moved with his family to Baltimore, Maryland, when he was six months old and attended the public schools in Baltimore and Strayer Business College. He worked as a mailing clerk in a Baltimore store from 1919 to 1923.

In 1926, Friedel founded the Industrial Loan Co., serving as president until 1956. Friedel served in the Maryland House of Delegates from 1935 to 1939 and served as a member of the city council of Baltimore from 1939 to 1952, representing the first and later the fifth district. He served as a delegate to the Democratic National Convention in 1964 and 1968.

Friedel was elected as a Democrat to the Eighty-third and to the eight succeeding Congresses, serving from January 3, 1953 until January 3, 1971. While in congress, he served as chairman of the Committee on House Administration (Ninetieth and Ninety-first Congresses), the Joint Committee on the Library (Ninety-first Congress) and the Joint Committee on Printing (Ninety-first Congress). Friedel did not sign the 1956 Southern Manifesto, and voted in favor of the Civil Rights Acts of 1957, 1960, 1964, and 1968, as well as the 24th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. He was an unsuccessful candidate for renomination in 1970 to the Ninety-second Congress.

Friedel died in Towson, Maryland and is buried in the Hebrew Friendship Cemetery in Baltimore.

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User talk:195.157.197.108

Proposed deletion of List of common household pests

The article List of common household pests has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern: "List's subject area is hopelessly vague and unlimited. What is 'common'? What is a 'pest'? What indeed is a 'household pest'? What is its geographical scope? What is the purpose if indeed it's worldwide (since no one household could ever be affected by species from all areas)? There is no agreement either in the world or on Wiki about these things. The article is a non-starter, and as it happens also almost wholly uncited."

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Proposed deletion of London Underground code alert

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Proposed deletion of London Underground code alert

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Talk:Benefactive

I think this page should become a redirect to Benefactive case, which says pretty much the same thing but contains a little bit more information. Unless, of course, someone can think of something that should go here but not there. --Decoder24 20:56, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Yucca filamentosa

Yucca filamentosa, Adam's needle and thread, is a species of flowering plant in the family Asparagaceae native to the southeastern United States. Growing to 3 m tall, it is an evergreen shrub valued in horticulture.

Description
Usually trunkless, it is multisuckering with heads of 75 cm long, filamentous, blue-green, strappy leaves. Y. filamentosa is readily distinguished from other yucca species by white, thready filaments along the leaf margins. Flower stems up to 3 m tall bear masses of pendulous cream flowers in early summer.

Taxonomy
Y. filamentosa is closely related to Y. flaccida and it is possible they should be classified as a single species.

Names
Its common names include Adam's needle, common yucca, Spanish bayonet, bear-grass, needle-palm, silk-grass, and spoon-leaf yucca.

Distribution and habitat
The species is found from southeast Virginia south to Florida, and as far west as south and southeast Texas. It has become naturalized along the Atlantic coastal plain north to Cape Cod and Long Island Sound, and into areas of the lower Midwest. It is reportedly also naturalized in France, Italy and Turkey.

This plant is most commonly found in sandy soils, especially in beach scrub and dunes, but also in fields, barrens, and rocky slopes, though it grows well also in silt or clay soils.

Ecology
The plants are pollinated by the yucca moth Tegeticula yuccasella. Other moth species, such as Tegeticula intermedia, also use this yucca as a host plant to lay their eggs.

Cultivation
Y. filamentosa is widely cultivated in mild temperate and subtropical climates. A fairly compact species, it nevertheless presents a striking appearance with its sword-like leaves and dramatic flowerheads. It is naturally a focal point in the landscape, also providing a tropical touch in temperate gardens. It needs full sun and a well-drained soil, preferring an acid or slightly alkaline pH range of 5.5 to 7.5. It develops a large, fleshy, white taproot with deep lateral roots. Once planted and established, it is difficult to remove, as the roots keep sending up new shoots for many years. It is normally hardy down to -29 C, or U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) hardiness zones of 5 to 9: UK H7).

Cultivars
'Bright Edge', a dwarf cultivar with yellow-margined foliage and creamy flowers tinged with green, has gained the Royal Horticultural Society's Award of Garden Merit. 'Color Guard', with broad yellow stripes all year plus red stripes in the winter, has also won the award.

Other cultivars include:
 * 'Golden Sword' - with yellow centered leaves and green margins.
 * 'Ivory Tower' - with larger, branched inflorescence.

Uses
Once the seeds have been removed, the fruits can be cooked and eaten. The large flower petals can also be eaten in salads.

The leaves, stems and roots of this plant can be used to stun fish. The Cherokee used it for this purpose.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/H-cluster reductions

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep. Kelly Martin 02:55, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

H-cluster reductions
''This page was nominated for deletion by someone using the IP address 205.188.116.71 but was not put up at VfD. I'm completing the nomination process, but I vote to keep, as mentioned below. --Angr/undefined 21:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)''

This article says that some people say yooj for huge. That's not true. Only lazy people say that. That's a mispronunciation, not a dialectal feature. 205.188.116.201 June 14, 2005
 * Speedy keep, no valid grounds for deletion given. As for the linguistically naive statement above, I'm not even going to dignify it with a response. --Angr/undefined 21:07, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * KEEP This shouldn't even be listed here. Lachatdelarue (talk) 21:57, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Looks fine to me. Ambush Commander 22:58, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment WP:NOR I'm not sure where this falls.  Outside of wikimirrors, this appears on one site. I'll admit, though, that this is a narrow field of study that's not likely to see a lot of press.  --Xcali 03:57, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * It's hard to google for because they're not always called "H-cluster reductions". Some people call them "Glide cluster reductions", and some people don't group them together at all, just calling them the "wine-whine merger" and the "yew-hew merger" (or some other set of words that illustrate the point), and some people don't call them by any name at all, but just talk about the loss of /h/ before /w/ and/or /j/. But they're definitely both notable phenomena in the phonology and sociolinguistics of English. The loss of /h/ before /l/, /n/, and /r/ isn't so notable; it's just one of the many sound changes that happened during the course of Middle English. --Angr/undefined 06:24, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete original research. JamesBurns 06:20, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep this is a genuine subject. Maybe it'll never make it to the evening news on tv, but this is an encyclopedia. Bambaiah 13:20, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * I see that another legit article from Category:Phonology has been put on VfD by a user from IP number 205.188.166.xxx — Votes for deletion/Reduction (linguistics) Bambaiah 05:16, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep Not always called by a consistent name, but if I studied it in an intro linguistics class it belongs here.  --Laura Scudder | Talk 15:41, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.  Please do not edit this page .