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Joel Edgerton

Joel Edgerton (born 23 June 1974) is an Australian actor and filmmaker. He is known for his portrayal of Will McGill on the first two seasons of the Australian drama series The Secret Life of Us (2001–02), and for playing Owen Lars in the Star Wars films Attack of the Clones (2002) and Revenge of the Sith (2005), a role he reprised in the Disney+ series Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022). For his portrayal of Richard Loving in the 2016 historical drama Loving, he received a nomination for the Golden Globe Award for Best Actor in a Motion Picture.

In Australia, Edgerton won the AACTA Award for Best Lead Actor for his work on The Secret Life of Us. He has appeared in several Australian films, such as The Square (2008), Animal Kingdom (2010; for which he received the AACTA Award for Best Supporting Actor), Wish You Were Here (2012), and Felony (2013). Edgerton's other film appearances include King Arthur (2004), Warrior (2011), Zero Dark Thirty (2012), The Great Gatsby (2013), Black Mass (2015), Bright (2017), Red Sparrow (2018), The Green Knight (2021), The Stranger, Thirteen Lives, and Master Gardener (all 2022), and The Boys in the Boat (2023). He has also starred in the Amazon Prime miniseries The Underground Railroad in 2021 and the Apple TV+ science fiction series Dark Matter in 2024.

For his work on The Gift (2015), a thriller he wrote, directed, co-produced, and in which he co-starred, Edgerton received critical acclaim and a nomination for the DGA Award for Outstanding Directing. In 2018, he wrote, directed and co-starred in the conversion therapy drama Boy Erased. The following year The King, which he co-wrote and starred in, was released by Netflix.

Early life
Edgerton was born in Blacktown, New South Wales, Australia the son of Michael, a solicitor and property developer, and Marianne (née van Dort) Edgerton. His mother is a Dutch immigrant, who was born in The Hague. He graduated from The Hills Grammar School in 1991. He attended the Nepean Drama School at the University of Western Sydney, before moving on to various stage productions, including at Sydney Theatre Company.

Career
Edgerton has appeared in such films as Erskineville Kings, King Arthur and Ned Kelly. In the Star Wars franchise, he played a young Owen Lars in Attack of the Clones (2002) and Revenge of the Sith (2005) and reprised the role in the Disney+ series Obi-Wan Kenobi. He played Will on The Secret Life of Us, for which he won an AACTA Award in 2002. In 2005, he lent his voice to the title character of The Mysterious Geographic Explorations of Jasper Morello, an Academy Award-nominated animated short film. The same year, he appeared as the son of a deceased shoemaker in the British comedy Kinky Boots. He appeared in Smokin' Aces (2006).

Edgerton appeared in the film Whisper (2007), The Square (which he co-wrote and was directed by his brother Nash Edgerton), Acolytes, and Separation City. In 2009, he starred alongside as Stanley in the Sydney Theatre Company's acclaimed production of A Streetcar Named Desire. He appeared in a production of the same play at the Brooklyn Academy of Music in December 2009. He appeared in the crime drama film Animal Kingdom as Barry Baz Brown in 2010 in which he won an AFI award. He starred as fictional MMA fighter Brendan Conlon in the film Warrior (2011).

In February 2010, Edgerton was cast in Matthijs van Heijningen Jr.'s 2011 prequel to The Thing, portraying helicopter pilot Sam Carter. He played Tom Buchanan in Baz Luhrmann's 2013 remake of The Great Gatsby. He was honoured for his work in international roles with the 2011 Australians in Film Breakthrough Award.

In 2013, it was revealed that Edgerton and David Michôd had collaborated on writing an adaptation of Shakespeare's "Henriad" plays, Henry IV, Part 1, Henry IV, Part 2 and Henry V, for Warner Bros. Pictures.

In 2014, Edgerton starred in the biblical film Exodus: Gods and Kings, as Ramesses II, Moses' adoptive brother, who became a notorious king. Edgerton directed, starred in, wrote, and produced the thriller The Gift, which was released on 7 August 2015 and grossed 60 million with a budget of 5 million. He co-starred in the 2015 film Black Mass as John Connolly, FBI contact and childhood friend of notorious gangster Whitey Bulger.

In 2016, he starred in the Jeff Nichols films Midnight Special and Loving, and in 2017, he starred in the film Bright as Officer Nick Jacoby, an orc who is a police officer. He will reprise the character in the sequel along with Will Smith, directed by Louis Leterrier for Netflix.

In 2018, Edgerton headlined Francis Lawrence's thriller film Red Sparrow with Jennifer Lawrence, and based on the book by Jason Matthews. He plays Nathaniel Nash, a CIA agent who becomes involved with a Russian spy Dominika Egorova (Lawrence). In February 2018, Timothée Chalamet joined the cast of The King, with Brad Pitt, Dede Gardner, and Jeremy Kleiner producing, alongside Liz Watts, under their Plan B Entertainment banner. In March 2018, Edgerton joined the cast of the film.

In April 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic in Australia, it was announced that a new film, The Unknown Man, directed by Thomas M. Wright, would begin filming in South Australia as soon as enough of the COVID-19 restrictions were lifted. It was released in 2022 as The Stranger. In September 2020, Edgerton was tapped to star in and executive produce limited series The Florida Man based on a novel of the same name by Tom Cooper.

In 2021, Edgerton starred in the medieval fantasy film The Green Knight written and directed by David Lowery.

In 2024, Edgerton guest starred in the Bluey episode The Sign, voicing a German Shepherd policeman.

Philanthropy
Edgerton has been a distinguished ambassador for The Fred Hollows Foundation for a number of years and has strong personal ties to the organisation, which works to restore people's sight in poor countries and to improve the health of Aboriginal Australians. In 2012, he visited Nepal, where he saw sight restored first hand. He has described social activism and his involvement with The Fred Hollows Foundation as "an escape" from the "materialistic life" that often surrounds an actor. The Fred Hollows Foundation is an international non-profit organization which educates and provides equipment for undersupported surgeons to help cure avoidable blindness.

Personal life
Edgerton's brother, Nash, is a stuntman and filmmaker. Both he and his brother are a part of the Australian film collective Blue-Tongue Films. Nash directed Joel in 2018's Gringo.

Joel was in a relationship with Olympic Gold medalist Cathy Freeman from 2003-2005.

In 2018, Edgerton began a relationship with Christine Centenera, editor-in-chief of Vogue Australia. They have known each other since the late 1990s. Their twins were born in May 2021.

Filmmaking credits
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Chatham Light

Chatham Lighthouse, known as Twin Lights prior to 1923, is a lighthouse in Chatham, Massachusetts, near the "elbow" of Cape Cod. The original station, close to the shore, was built in 1808 with two wooden towers, which were both replaced in 1841. In 1877, two new towers, made of cast iron rings, replaced those. One of the towers was moved to the Eastham area, where it became known as Nauset Light in 1923.

History
The station was established in 1808; it was the second light station on Cape Cod. To distinguish it from Highland Light, the first Cape Cod light, and to act as a range, twin octagonal 40 ft wooden towers were built. They were on skids so that they could be moved to keep them in line with the entrance channel as it shifted. Samuel Nye was appointed as the first Keeper of the Chatham Lights by President Jefferson on October 7, 1808.

The light had an interesting history afterwards.
 * 1841 The wood octagonal towers are replaced with two 40 ft brick towers
 * 1857 Fourth order Fresnel lenses are installed, fueled by lard oil
 * 1877 New twin towers of brick, lined with cast iron, and a keeper's dwelling are built further from the shore, because of erosion concerns
 * 1893 A brick oil house is added
 * 1923 Northern tower of the pair is moved roughly 12 mi north to become Nauset Light
 * 1939 Chatham Light, kerosene fueled since 1882, and rotated via a clockwork drive, is converted to electricity; the light remains active during WWII
 * 1969 The Fresnel lens is moved to Atwood House Museum, replaced with a Carlisle & Finch rotating light generating over 2.8 million candlepower
 * 1982 Automated
 * 1983 Aerobeacons installed in the lantern room
 * 1993 New DCB-224 aerobeacons are installed

Chatham Light was added to the National Register of Historic Places as Chatham Light Station on June 15, 1987, reference number 87001501.

Light keepers
The following individuals were the principal light keepers over the years.

 * Samuel Nye (1808 – 1813)
 * Joseph Loveland (1813 – at least 1833)
 * Samuel Stinson (at least 1835 – 1839)
 * Lot Norton (1839 – 1841)
 * Collins Howes (1841 – 1845)
 * Simeon Nickerson (1845 – 1848)
 * Angeline M. Nickerson (1848 – 1862)
 * Charles H. Smith (1862 – 1872)
 * Josiah Hardy Jr. (1872 – 1899)
 * Charles H. Hammond (1899 – 1907)
 * James T. Allison (1907 – 1928)
 * George F. Woodman Jr. (1928 – 1940)
 * George T. Gustavus (1940 – 1945).

Current status

Today, the former keeper's house is an active U.S. Coast Guard station, and on-duty personnel living quarters. Search and Rescue, maritime law enforcement, and Homeland Security missions are carried out here. Flotilla 11-01 of the U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary operates from this station.

In popular culture
The Chatham Lighthouse is featured in the film The Finest Hours depicting the US Coast Guard's rescue of the SS Pendleton in 1952 off the coast of Chatham. All four of the Coast Guard crew received the Coast Guard's Gold Lifesaving Medal.

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Pinball Wizard

"Pinball Wizard" is a song by the English rock band the Who, written by guitarist and primary songwriter Pete Townshend and featured on their 1969 rock opera album Tommy. The original recording was released as a single in 1969 and reached No. 4 in the UK charts and No. 19 on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100.

The B-side of the "Pinball Wizard" single is an instrumental credited to Keith Moon, titled "Dogs Part Two". Despite the title, it has no musical connection to the Who's 1968 UK single "Dogs".

Story
The lyrics are written from the perspective of a pinball champion, called "Local Lad" in the Tommy libretto book, astounded by the skills of the opera's eponymous main character, Tommy Walker: "He ain't got no distractions / Can't hear those buzzers and bells / Don't see lights a flashin' / Plays by sense of smell / Always gets a replay / Never seen him fall / That deaf dumb and blind kid / Sure plays a mean pinball.", and "I thought I was the Bally table king, but I just handed my pinball crown to him".

Townshend once called it "the most clumsy piece of writing [he'd] ever done". Nevertheless, the song was a commercial success and remains one of the most recognised tunes from the opera. It was a perpetual concert favourite for Who fans due to its pop sound and familiarity.

Position on the album
In late 1968 or early 1969, when the Who played a rough assembly of their new album to critic Nik Cohn, Cohn gave a lukewarm reaction to it. Following this, Townshend, as Tommy's principal composer, discussed the album with Cohn and concluded that, to lighten the load of the rock opera's heavy spiritual overtones (Townshend had recently become deeply interested in the teachings of Meher Baba), the title character, a "deaf, dumb, and blind" boy, should also be particularly good at a certain game. Knowing Cohn was an avid pinball fan, Townshend suggested that Tommy would play pinball, and Cohn immediately declared Tommy to be a masterpiece. The song "Pinball Wizard" was written and recorded almost immediately. The single version was slightly sped up and runs to 2:57, whilst the natural length album version runs to 3:04.

Reception
Cash Box said "Pinball Wizard" was "sensational", saying "Retaining the joyful exaltation of early pop rock, the Who add a proficiency and modernization that clicks with the accuracy of a Beatles-gone-heavy." Billboard described the single as "a solid beat rocker." Record World described it as an "exciting side."

Live performances
This song is one of the band's most famous live songs, being played at almost every Who concert since its debut live performance on 2 May 1969. The live performances rarely deviated from the album arrangement, save for an occasional jam at the end sometimes leading to another song. Bootleg recordings show that this song has been known to last as long as eight minutes (at a concert at the Rainbow Theatre in London on 3 February 1981), although live versions lasting as long as that are extremely rare. Pinball Wizard was also played during the Super Bowl XLIV Halftime Show on 7 February 2010.

Personnel

 * Roger Daltrey – lead vocals
 * Pete Townshend – backing vocals, co-lead vocals, acoustic guitar, electric guitar
 * John Entwistle – bass guitar
 * Keith Moon – drums

Elton John versions
The song was performed by English musician Elton John in Ken Russell's 1975 film adaptation of Tommy. This version was released in 1975 as a promotional single only in the US, and in 1976 in the UK, where it reached number 7. Because it was not released as a commercial single in the US, it was ineligible to be listed on the Billboard Hot 100 chart. It did however make the US Radio & Records airplay chart, where it reached number 9.

John's version uses a piano as the song's centerpiece in place of the acoustic guitar in the original. In the film, John's character is shown playing his pinball machine via a small piano keyboard. He acknowledges that Tommy is a threat, but initially believes he will not be able to beat him for the championship. As the match progresses, he is soon proven wrong, and concedes defeat when Tommy maxes the score counter. His adaptation also features additional lyrics specially written by Townshend for the movie version, as well as a subtle inclusion of musical phrases from the Who's 1960s hit "I Can't Explain" during the outro. Similarly, the Who's later cover of Elton John's "Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting" included parts of "Take Me to the Pilot". Unlike most of the soundtrack's music, which featured various combinations of the Who and some of the era's best session players, Elton John used his own band and producer Gus Dudgeon for the track. John has performed the song as part of his Las Vegas Red Piano Show, as well as on various tours. To date, it is the only cover of a Who song to reach the top 10.

John performed the song with an extended closing jam during his 1975 tour. This version appears on the 2-CD 30th Anniversary release of Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy, with the live disc of the June 21, 1975 concert from Wembley Stadium.

Elton opened his 'Final UK Show' at Glastonbury in 2023 playing the song.

The song has subsequently been performed by Taron Egerton who portrayed Elton John in the film Rocketman (2019).

Personnel

 * Elton John – lead vocals, piano
 * Davey Johnstone – acoustic and electric guitars, backing vocals
 * Dee Murray – bass, backing vocals
 * Nigel Olsson – drums, backing vocals
 * Ray Cooper – tambourine, congas

Chart performance
In Toronto, "Pinball Wizard" spent two weeks at number one on the CHUM survey. In Chicago, "Pinball Wizard" remained on the WLS Musicradio Survey as an "extra" for five and a half months, from mid-April to late September as an album track in heavy rotation.

Other cover versions

 * The song was featured in a medley with another song from Tommy ("See Me, Feel Me") in a recording by the British pop group the New Seekers in 1973. This version reached No. 16 on the UK charts and in Australia, No. 28 in Canada, and No. 29 on the U.S. Hot 100.
 * In 1977, Barry Williams performed the song during a "Songs from Movies" medley on an episode of The Brady Bunch Variety Hour.
 * Tenacious D also regularly perform the song as a part of a medley of songs from Tommy

Legacy
Bruce Springsteen makes a reference to the song in his song "4th of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)", in the album The Wild, the Innocent, & the E Street Shuffle, with the lyric "And the wizards play down on Pinball Way". The track is also featured on the video games Rock Band 2, Rock Band Unplugged and Karaoke Revolution: American Idol Encore 2.

Using the phrase "pinball wizard" to describe a high-quality pinball player is common, both in works of media and among the general public. Several pinball tables feature a "wizard mode", a state of play which is meant to be reached only by skilled players. Within the pinball community, the phrase's use is sometimes controversial: this is primarily due to its ubiquity, with many players having become tired of hearing it.

Several pinball machines have been produced with a "Pinball Wizard" theme. Two of these, produced at the time of the Tommy feature film's release, have only an oblique relation to the song: Wizard was wholly unlicensed, only taking inspiration from the song and film, while Capt. Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy, a table ostensibly with an Elton John licence, used the singer's likeness as he appeared in the film, where he played the "Pinball Wizard". Both of these machines were produced in the mid-1970s by Bally Manufacturing. Two decades later, Data East Pinball also produced The Who's Tommy Pinball Wizard, a licensed machine capitalising on the album's stage adaptation.

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June 2013
Your recent editing history at Crouton shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Randykitty (talk) 16:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. TEDickey (talk) 09:10, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Sure thing. ¦ Reisio (talk) 09:20, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at List of unsolved problems in mathematics shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Randykitty (talk) 10:42, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Please stop. Continuing to remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia without resolving the problem that the template refers to, may be considered disruptive editing. Further edits of this type may result in your account being blocked from editing. Thomas.W (talk) 14:15, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you remove the maintenance templates from Wikipedia articles without resolving the problem that the template refers to, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Thomas.W (talk) 06:42, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

 * You’ll forgive me, I hope, if I don’t take particularly seriously the threats of someone who considers simple responses to talk pages as vandalism . ¦ Reisio (talk) 06:48, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Systematically copy-pasting totally undeserved warnings on the user talk pages of other users (as you do every time you are being warned by someone, not only by me) is vandalism. Your behaviour clearly shows that you seem to believe that you are above the rules, but FYI you're not. Thomas.W (talk) 06:57, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Your notion that only one person of two engaged in an edit war is allowed to warn the other, and the other can only commit vandalism, is rather shortsighted. ¦ Reisio (talk) 07:48, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

This is not an edit war, this is you breaking the rules. Thomas.W (talk) 07:53, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Which rules? ¦ Reisio (talk) 09:04, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Several, actually, and if you continue this disruptive behavior, you'll find yourself blocked pretty soon. --Randykitty (talk) 09:45, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

 * So you keep saying. Several rules that you can name, or imaginary ones? ¦ Reisio (talk) 09:49, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Maintenance templates
I can see that other editors have asked you to stop removing these templates and I came here after seeing a report at WP:AIV that you had continued to do so. However there have been no further removals after the last warning noted above - thank you for stopping these removals, which would indeed be disruptive if you continued to do so. A block would not be warranted seeing as you have stopped, but please note that if there are further instances I will impose a block without further warning. Hopefully however this won't be necessary. Of course if tyou have imnproved the referencing of an article, or gained consensus on the talk page that the tag is not needed, it can be removed safely. Kim Dent-Brown  (Talk)  10:22, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Sorry, why would you impose a block? ¦ Reisio (talk) 11:34, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

To protect the encyclopaedia from further disruption. Kim Dent-Brown  (Talk)  12:00, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

 * So one cannot improve the encyclopedia if anyone at all objects to it, without being blocked? ¦ Reisio (talk) 12:09, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Your three reverts to Mate (beverage) here, here and here in under 24 hours indicate you are edit warring, and attempting to justify this because 3 is less than 4 and gets you "off the hook" for violating the three revert rule probably won't go down well. For what it's worth, I actually agree with your basic principle here, and I don't like refimprove tags myself, but the way you resolve a dispute on the tag is to discuss it, not edit war over it. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   12:08, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

 * I can appreciate talk page stalking, but unless you’re threatening to block me for inspecific reasons, your words are rather irrelevant to me in this particular section at this particular time. ¦ Reisio (talk) 12:11, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * What you were doing was not improving the encyclopaedia and was being objected to by numerous people, on numerous occasions. (By the way, there's no need to copy this discussion to my talk page as well. I'm watching this page and will reply here.) Kim Dent-Brown   (Talk)  12:29, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

 * So you don’t care if I do it as long as no one objects? ¦ Reisio (talk) 12:32, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * What I said above is that if you remove refimprove tags again without either improving referencing or gaining consensus to do so, I will block you. Other people's objections have already been made and no further objections from others will be required to trigger a block. Kim Dent-Brown   (Talk)  12:56, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

 * So someone can add a template to a page without any consensus, but I can’t remove one without you blocking me? ¦ Reisio (talk) 12:58, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That's correct. If of course I found someone maliciously or playfully slapping on templates which were unwarranted, and they continued to do so after a series of warnings, they'd be liable to be blocked too. Kim Dent-Brown   (Talk)  13:02, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Administrator's noticeboard
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Thomas.W (talk) 10:42, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Righto. ¦ Reisio (talk) 11:40, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Legal advice
Please do not give legal advice on Reference Desks:. Not only is this inappropriate, but the advice you gave was clearly factually incorrect. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:06, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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This is the Wikipedia page for MUTiger86 (aka Bill C.).

My interests include:
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Should the picture with the product placement be in here?

I added it because it is representative of the slightly seedy business that characterize the area - I actually photographed a bunch of them but this one came out the best. Pretzelpaws 23:05, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

A quick Google search reviewed unanimous usage of SOMA or SoMa, never SoMA. I have always heard SOuth of MArket, not SOuth of Market Area. I changed it, but am awaiting a contradictory source.

Why see also union square?
What special relationship does union square have to soma? More so than any other nearby neighborhood? Mike Linksvayer 06:21, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I just took it out.Zyxwv99 (talk) 14:47, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

 * It was probably there because the City Shopping Center / Westfield Mall could be considered part of the Union Square shopping district (in the broadest sense), i.e., the shopping district forms an arc around the base of Nob Hill, making a quarter of a circle from Powell St. to California St., and is much wider at Powell St., thus including a bit of the south side of Market St.Zyxwv99 (talk) 23:30, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Who is Jason?
"Jason also lives there." Is the last line in the Demographics area of the page. I re-read the section and am still struggling to grasp what that could possibly mean, other than somebody editing their friends name in. I'll wait a few months for an explanation. Isikari 10:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

 * It appears that a user with far more experience on wikipedia then me saw my edit and got rid of the Jason line. Thanks to Paul for going ahead and doing that, I just haven't made enough edits to feel comfortable erasing stuff yet. Isikari 7:06, 13 March 2008

Demographics?
Why doesn't the demographics section have any info on demographic info? Toddst1 (talk) 06:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Where is SOMA?
I disagree about the definition of where SOMA (which is how everyone writes it) is; Cesar Chavez is definitely not one of the borders, it's too far south. If you go south enough you start going into Mission, Potrero Hill, and Dog Patch (depending which direction). Townsend and Market are correct, but there is no mention of a Northeast border which would make SOMA run into South Beach. Sorry the SF Chronicle is wrong, perhaps they should look at map! My authority on the subject, I live in SOMA. (Lime124 (talk) 15:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC))

 * My take on the boundaries of SOMA are 3rd & Market -> follow Market to -> South Van Ness, follow to -> Central Freeway /US101, follow to 16th Street, Follow to 3rd Street, and back to Market. --67.101.112.78 (talk) 00:17, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

No Map?
The description is: Its boundaries are Market Street to the northwest, San Francisco Bay to the northeast, Mission Creek to the southeast, and Division Street, 13th Street and U.S. Route 101 (Central Freeway) to the southwest.

Isn't this a perfect example of: a picture is worth a thousand words? (or worth a lot of words)... one simple map with shaded area can tell much more than a description in English.

Population Wrong
The population figures cited only account for roughly half the area (as defined in this article) of South of Market. Either the boundaries are too wide in this article or the population statistics are too small. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usaar33 (talk • contribs) 01:38, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

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Is it me or did they leave out Black people from this section? WillieHowardCO67 (talk) 17:34, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You are correct; the section is old and misleading, and the citation link does not work, so I deleted the whole thing. Any editor who wants to develop a new section can certainly do so. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 05:02, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Citation on Embarcadero Migration
This section "The waterfront redevelopment of the Embarcadero in the 1950s pushed a new population into this area in the 1960s, the incipient gay community, and the leather community in particular." does not appear in the Mick Sinclair text as it is cited, and reading through the text I cannot find any citation for the Embarcadero as a former cite of gay community. MadeiraDarling (talk) 02:20, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Good catch, can confirm that this isn't mentioned on p.220 of the cited book. This citation was added in 2014 by User:Deisenbe, apparently only intended to support the "since it was a warehouse area that was largely deserted at night" part.
 * The claim about the waterfront redevelopment was added in 2007 by User:Dpmath, in the first sentence of an entire paragraph where only the last sentence carried a citation to a different source, namely the "Miracle Mile" book. But possibly it was intended to cover the waterfront claim too (I haven't checked that citation myself). Regards, HaeB (talk) 04:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

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Executive Order 13303

Executive Order 13303 was issued on May 22, 2003, by United States President George W. Bush to protect the Development Fund for Iraq for the rebuilding of Iraq from any legal attachments or liens. Further, it protects Iraqi oil products and interests and ownership by US persons (defined to include US corporations) from attachment as well. Executive Order 13303 also terminates sanctions specified in EO 12722, EO 12724, EO 13290, as it applies to the development fund. In effect, EO 13303 provides an extraordinarily broad legal shield for any and all contractors and mercenaries working in Iraq on behalf of US corporations in any oil related enterprise. The Executive Order also declares a national emergency to deal with the threat to a peaceful reconstruction of Iraq, which US Presidents have renewed every year since, most recently in May 2023.

The order's full title is Executive Order Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other Property in Which Iraq Has An Interest.

Effects of EO 13303
The primary effect of EO 13303 is the legal protection of US oil companies. EO 13303 is part of a broader endeavor by the Bush administration to exert control over Iraqi oil revenues. The plan centers on the Development Fund for Iraq, created by the United Nations and nominally controlled by the United States, with advice from the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF). The second part of the plan is EO 13303, providing absolute legal protection for US interests in Iraqi oil.

Controversy
Critics of EO 13303 contend new debt for Iraq will accrue from the new Development Fund for Iraq. They say that it will allow opportunities for grave abuses because it offers little illuminating context and its tone suggests the language should be read quite broadly. These concerns stem from the apparent likelihood the fund will be used to leverage US government and corporate interests.

The United Nations Security Council approved Resolution 1483 on May 22, 2003, ending economic sanctions against Iraq while clearing a path for the transfer of over US$1 billion from the Oil-for-Food program as seed money for establishment of the development fund. Critics are also alarmed because all proceeds from the sale of Iraqi oil and natural gas are to be placed into the fund, noting developing countries have amassed huge debts in exchange for selling out their natural resources to powerful corporations. This paradigm, they contend, cloaks corporate welfare and neocolonialism in terms of 'poverty alleviation', and now in Iraq as 'humanitarian assistance'.

There are differences between the original text (UN Security Council Resolution 1483) and EO 13303, which may lead a court to hold implementation is overbroad.

Online versions of EO 13303

 * Executive Order 13303: Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other Property in Which Iraq Has An Interest, May 22, 2003, the White House Archives
 * AkamaiTech.net (pdf) - 'Executive Order 13303: Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other Property in Which Iraq Has an Interest' signed May 22, 2003, Federal Register
 * ReclaimDemocracy.org - 'Executive Order 13303: Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other Property in Which Iraq Has an Interest' signed May 22, 2003, the Federal Register (May 28, 2003)

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The Organization of the Jews in Bulgaria (OJB) coordinates the different Jewish communities in Bulgaria, a country where about 8000 Jews live. This organization organizes programs and projects. The tasks of Shalom – OJB are mainly:
 * Keeping up and promoting the Jewish values and traditions regarding ethnological, linguistic and cultural aspects
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Talk:Chatham Light

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The tone of this article needs to be made more encyclopedic (isn't there a tag for this particular problem? I couldn't find it) and of course it needs to be wikified. Whitejay251 10:50, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Chatham Light Productions
I removed the following text:

 * "The Chatham Light was the inspiration for a small independent film production company called Chatham Light Productions. The lighthouse appears on the company's title card at the opening of their films and the lighthouse is also featured in multiple shots of their upcoming film shot in Chatham called Whiffleball (movie)."

on the grounds that neither the production company nor Whiffleball, its only movie, meet the test of notability. The movie has yet (a year after release) to have five votes on www.imdb.com.

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Framingham/Worcester Line

The Framingham/Worcester Line of the MBTA Commuter Rail system runs west from Boston, Massachusetts to Worcester, Massachusetts through the MetroWest region, serving 17 station stops in Boston, Newton, Wellesley, Natick, Framingham, Ashland, Southborough, Westborough, Grafton, and Worcester. It is the third longest and third busiest line in the MBTA Commuter Rail system. Service on the line is a mix of local and express trains serving Worcester plus short-turn Framingham locals.

The Framingham/Worcester Line was one of the first commuter rail lines, with daily commuter-oriented service to West Newton beginning in 1834. Originally the Boston and Worcester Railroad, service has been operated by the Boston and Albany Railroad, New York Central, Penn Central, and since 1964 by Boston and Maine Railroad, Amtrak, and the MBCR until 2014 under contract to the MBTA. Since 2014 service has been operated by Keolis North America. In 1975 the line was cut back to Framingham, but service returned to Worcester in 1994 with four infill stations added between 2000 and 2002.

After purchasing the Framingham–Worcester trackage from CSX in 2012, the MBTA has begun adding service to the outer section of the line and performing track work to increase speeds and reliability. A new station at Boston Landing opened in 2017. All stations from Boston Landing east and West Natick west are accessible; Natick Center is being reconstructed for accessibility, while renovations to the six remaining stations are planned.

History
Originally built in 1834 as the Boston and Worcester Railroad, the line was later part of the Boston and Albany Railroad and New York Central Railroad systems. The Massachusetts Turnpike Authority acquired the tracks from Newton to Back Bay station in order to construct the Boston Extension of the Massachusetts Turnpike from the Route 128 circumferential highway to the then-elevated Central Artery in downtown Boston. Construction ran from 1962 to 1964, and reduced the railway to two tracks.

The New York Central was merged into Penn Central Transportation in 1968, which went bankrupt in 1970. Amtrak was created in 1971 to take over intercity rail service from the private railroads. When Amtrak started operations on May 1, 1971, no intercity service was kept on the line, thus ending direct connections from Boston to Springfield, Pittsfield, and Albany. In mid-May, Amtrak added the Boston-New Haven Bay State. The train struggled to find consistent ridership, with frequent changes of schedule and destination. In 1973, the westbound trip operated as a quasi-commuter train. The Bay State was canceled on March 1, 1975.

On January 27, 1973, the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA) acquired the remainder of the tracks east of Framingham, and began subsidizing service between Framingham and Boston. Commuter rail service between Worcester and Framingham (with no intermediate stops after 1960) was not subsidized by the MBTA; with just ten riders per day riding from Worcester, service was cut back to Framingham on October 27, 1975. Amtrak began operating a Boston-Albany section of the Lake Shore Limited four days later. Boston-New Haven (Inland Route) service was restored under the Bay State name in 1984, and ran in various forms until the early 2000s.

The trackage on the western segment was inherited by Conrail in 1976, which returned to profitability in the 1980s; after a corporate breakup in 1999, CSX Transportation became the owner of the Worcester-to-Framingham segment. Service along the remaining Boston-Framingham segment was considerably increased in October 1979; this was intended to partially compensate for the closure of the Needham Line that month to make room for Southwest Corridor construction. As part of the Southwest Corridor project, the Orange Line was rerouted into parallel tracks sharing the Framingham Line's right of way between Back Bay station and the portal to the Washington Street Tunnel.

MBTA commuter rail service expanded to Worcester on September 26, 1994, with limited rush-hour-only service. Off-peak service was added beginning on December 14, 1996. Worcester Union Station underwent a major renovation in 2000, and in 2006 the city's main bus terminal was co-located at the train station. Infill stations at, , , and were added in 2000 and 2002. The total cost of the Worcester Commuter Rail Extension Project was $97 million.

Ownership and performance problems
For a variety of reasons, the line had some of the worst on-time performance in the MBTA system for several years. While state agencies including the MBTA owned the line out to Framingham, CSX Transportation owned from Framingham to Worcester and ran frequent freight trains as far east as Beacon Park Yard in Allston. CSX then dispatched (controlled signals) on the line from their operations base in Selkirk, New York, resulting in low priority for passenger trains. Conflicts with freight trains, ongoing track work, and an increase of passenger load of about 40% since opening were all blamed for the poor on-time performance, as were new federal speed regulations that went into effect in 2005.

In 2007, pessimistic that CSX would ever sell the line, the state Executive Office of Transportation began studying alternatives to improve service. Possibilities included adding interlockings or additional tracks to the line, or even running service from Worcester to North Station via over the Pan Am Railways Worcester Branch (former Worcester, Nashua and Rochester Railroad) and the Fitchburg Line.

In October 2007, only 48.4% of trains ran on time (no more than 1 minute early or 5 minutes late), improving to 69.3% in January 2008 after CSX and MBCR officials began meeting daily. On February 18, 2008, a new schedule went into effect, intended to more accurately reflect the run time on the line. By August 2009, actual on-time performance was at 82%.

In January 2008, the Framingham/Worcester Line became the first in the MBTA system to offer Wi-Fi service aboard the trains. The service was expanded system-wide after a test period, but the Worcester Line was chosen for the pilot phase in part to compensate for low on-time performance, as well as to test the service across the line's varied terrain.

On October 2, 2008, the state government announced an agreement with CSX Transportation for the purchase and upgrade of several of CSX's freight lines in the state. CSX agreed to sell the Framingham-to-Worcester section of the Worcester Line, its lines from Taunton to Fall River and New Bedford for use by the South Coast Rail project, the Grand Junction Branch, and the South Boston Running Track. Other parts of the agreement included plans for double-stack freights west of Worcester and the abandonment of Beacon Park Yard. Weekday Worcester service was increased to twelve round trips on October 27, 2008, under the agreement. The agreement was signed on September 23, 2009, with the Worcester Line transfer then expected in 2011.

Service expansions
In June 2012, New Balance announced plans to build a new station stop at their new development in Allston-Brighton. was originally to open in 2014, but was delayed until May 22, 2017.

In July 2012, the MBTA announced plans to add additional service on the line as CSX moved freight transload operations from Beacon Park Yard in Allston to a new yard in East Worcester that did not interfere with passenger operations. Three additional weekday Boston-Worcester round trips were added on October 29, 2012, after the October 4 signing of the deed that transferred ownership of the Framingham-Worcester section to the MBTA. A rush-hour express serving Worcester was added on April 29, 2013. The ultimate goal was originally for 20 Worcester round trips by October 2013, up from 12.5 round trips before the service increases; however this was pushed back by delays in the rebuilding of Yawkey station and the delivery of the new MPI HSP46 locomotives and bilevel passenger cars.

By early 2013, Beacon Park was largely vacated except for the locomotive maintenance facility, leaving only occasional freight service east of Framingham. MBCR took over dispatching of the line from CSX in August 2013, meaning that passenger trains are now given full priority over freight trains. The dispatching changeover brings other benefits for passenger service: MBCR has greater flexibility to deal with minor emergencies affecting operations, to communicate directly with train crews, and to dispatch extra trains to cover for a late or stalled train. Blanket heat-related speed restrictions were intended to be eliminated, limiting delays even on hotter summer days.

A series of public comment hearings in 2013 were held to determine schedules. Implementation of the new schedules was delayed because the completion of Yawkey station's rehabilitation and expansion was delayed. The expansion included installation of a second track, crucial to the service expansion. The increase to 20 weekday and 9 weekend round trips to Worcester took place on March 10, 2014. The MBTA has long been planning to speed travel times on the line by adding a second main track through Beacon Park Yard – the only single-track section of the line. The former second track through the yard was turned into a yard lead with no through service in the 1950s.

In November 2013, MassDOT announced plans to spend $15 million through 2014 and 2015 to improve travel times on the line. Some of the work involves heating and cutting quarter-mile rail segments to eliminate heat kinks. The promised reduction in heat-related speed restrictions has not yet occurred due to the poor condition of the tracks; the work to reduce them started in 2014 with $1.2 million in work between Worcester and Grafton, but will not be complete until 2016.

In early 2014, MassDOT proposed DMU local service for the inner part of the line as part of the "Indigo Line". In September 2014, MassDOT announced plans to build the multimodal in Beacon Park Yard as a transfer point between local DMU service and mainline locomotive-hauled commuter rail service. The $25 million station would have been constructed simultaneously with a $260 million reconfiguration of the Mass Pike through Beacon Park Yard and was planned to open in 2020. Plans for DMU service were cancelled in 2015, and West Station was delayed to 2040. On May 23, 2016, the MBTA began running a single daily round trip – inbound in the morning rush, outbound in the late evening – with no intermediate stops between Yawkey (later renamed to Lansdowne) and Worcester. Branded "HeartToHub", the trips were scheduled for travel times of under one hour between Back Bay and Worcester, slightly faster than the driving time between those two locations.

COVID-19 cuts and construction projects
Weekday service was substantially cut on March 17, 2020, due to reduced ridership during the COVID-19 pandemic. On June 22, service was increased, but all trains continued to run local. Schedule changes effective November 2, 2020 re-added express service, including the Heart to Hub service (with an added Framingham stop). Reduced service operated from December 14, 2020, to April 5, 2021, again as part of systemwide reductions.

Service changes on April 5, 2021, began the transition to a regional rail model, with hourly Boston–Worcester service. Worcester service operates express between Boston Landing and West Natick at peak hours, with hourly Boston–Framingham local trains at those times to provide service to the inner part of the line. Because the single-platform Newton stations can only be served by trains in one direction at peak service levels, a "Newton Connection Railbus" bus shuttle operated between Newton Highlands and Wellesley Farms to provide reverse-peak service to the stations. The bus shuttle ended service on August 27, 2021, as route bus service resumed two days later. By October 2022, the line had 10,606 daily riders – 57% of pre-COVID ridership. The "Heart to Hub" trains were converted to regular express trains effective October 2, 2023. A morning "Heart to Hub" round trip was re-added on May 20, 2024.

An accessibility reconstruction of Natick Center station began in March 2020, followed by the addition of a new island platform at Worcester Union Station beginning in late 2021. Midday service was temporarily reduced from May 2 to October 17, 2022, and July 10 to September 11, 2023, to accommodate the construction projects. The new platform at Worcester opened on July 1, 2024.

In June 2021, the MBTA issued a $28 million design contract for a project to add a third track from Weston to Framingham, including reconstruction of the three Wellesley stations and West Natick station. The project was expected to cost around $400 million, with completion in 2030. Renovations to the three Newton stations (including the addition of second platforms) are also planned. Design work for the Newton stations was paused at 75% completion in September 2023 because project costs had risen to $255 million. In April 2024, the MBTA indicated that it would proceed with Newtonville before the two other stations, with platform lengths shorter than the MBTA standard to reduce construction costs.

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I think there should be a list of all of the things that the Doctor has done with the sonic screwdriver, possibly with episode references. --Jawr256 07:04, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not too sure about that; the list would become far too expansive. It was, after all, in use for about twenty years. --JB Adder | Talk 06:45, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

How off-the-cuff was the Doctor's comment in The Doctor Dances, about 'a long night with a lot of cabinets to put up'? Is there any chance this is the true genesis of the Übertool, or was he simply being facetious? Should we put it in the article? Radagast 12:08, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

 * I'd say it was facetious, myself. --12:18, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

 * Speaking of this converstation, shouldn't Jack's sonic blaster be mentioned? After all the article mention's Homunculette's sonic monkey-wrench. GracieLizzie 13:58, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Toy reference
In the article it mentions a reference to the actual prop being replaced with a mold of a working pen replica/toy. Is there any more information on this? It does not mention what manufacturer or anything, as I am in the USA I would not know. --Rebootedrock 03:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

wrong setting
I'm sure it's setting 2428-D for re-attaching barbed wire not setting 2482-D. Can someone confirm this?

 * It depends on the composite of the material. Harder forms of metal used in later versions of Barbed wire would require a higher setting, where as soft Iron used in the Barbed wire during WWII wouldn't require such a drastic setting, so both a correct. James Random 10:43, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Stealer of Dreams
It was still unable to allow the Doctor and Rose out of a locked taxi-cab in The Stealers of Dreams.

Isn't the reason the sonic screwdriver proves ineffective in this scene that neither it nor the Doctor are actually present, but are the result of Rose going "fiction crazy"? --Daibhid C 22:32 27 November 2005

 * I haven't read it, so I don't know. I assume it to be accurate, but if anyone thinks otherwise, just change it. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 23:37, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

 * The reference has been removed, but for the record Daibhid is right: the "Doctor" in that scene is actually a hallucination Rose is having, which is why his sonic screwdriver has no effect. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 04:53, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Article bloating
I know I was the one that started listing the functions of the new sonic screwdriver, but on reflection, do we really need to list everything? I don't want the article more crufty than it actually is. On another note, I'll be removing that Stealer of Dreams reference as per the talk above. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 08:51, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it's quite nice to have everything, maybe it should be forked into Sonic screwdriver uses however.--TheDoctor10 (talk|email) 06:38, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

 * That would be so fancrufty that it won't survive an AfD, I suspect. The question is whether or not the information is notable and useful, not whether it's "nice". --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 08:00, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

 * The article's only a little over two pages long (on my settings, of course) based on several decades' worth of source material, it doesn't seem particularly bloated to me. Bryan 16:40, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry Khaosworks, I should have read this before adding my extra bits! I did think it was worth mentioning about distracting the cybermen in Age of Steel though because I'm not sure this is covered by 'deactivating electronics'. I thought what happened was that the SS was used to send out a burst of sound that bounced off the surrounding houses and confused the cybermen into thinking their quarry was escaping. It's not something that has been seen before as far as I'm aware but correct me if I'm wrong? --86.27.60.124 17:02, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I wasn't sure it really had to be mentioned at all, hence my sneaky "uses include" phrasing so we don't feel the need to put in every little thing. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 17:26, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Romana's screwdriver
Will check on my own later, but just a query - is the one in City of Death the same as the one she used in Nimon, or is it just a replica of the Doctor's? --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:38, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Same one she used in Nimon, if you look, but its got a different Head on it that's similar to The Doctor's.

Driving screws?
Has the Sonic Screwdriver actually ever been used to drive screws? If not, I'd like someone to charnge the article to say that the SS has never been seen to actually drive screws. (I'd do it myself, but I'd forget to come back)

 * Yes, it has. For one, in Fury from the Deep (when it first appeared) as well as in The Ark in Space. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 02:39, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Also used in The War Games for this purpose. GideonFrost 10:50, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

 * The Ninth Doctor actually mentioned having a lot of cabinets to put up in The Doctor Dances.

 * Pretty sure it's used for this in Castrovalva - or creating the "zero cabinet", anyway... 87.114.8.197 (talk) 02:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)Portreev

 * It was used for unscrewing the bolts on the Dalekanium on the top of the Empire State Building in Evolution of the Daleks. --Sonicdrewdriver (talk) 08:15, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Citation of Pemberton quote
Unfortunately, it turns out that my copy of the Doctor Who Magazine issue with that Victor Pemberton quote in it (#318) is in storage and inaccessible for the moment. Could someone who has the issue accessible find out the name of the interview, for the citation? Thanks. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:01, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Tis done. —Whouk (talk) 11:34, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I thank you. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 16:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

The Answering Machine
The article mentions that the Sonic Screwdiver has been used to extract a credit stick from a cash machine on Satellite 5 (The Long Game), but it should also mention that it's used to destroy the answering machine at Adam Mitchell's parents' house. --John R. Sellers 09:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

 * The article isn't an exhaustive list, and it is mentioned that it can control other devices, covering both of these uses. I believe the cash machine reference has now also been removed. --Sonicdrewdriver (talk) 08:19, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

In the Ninth Doctor Adventures, it was used to cauterise wounds and stop a clockwork mechanism using a borrowed cylindrical power-pack
The power-pack was not "borrowed" it actually belonged to the screwdriver in the first place, but had been stolen by The Painted Lady, but was later returned to the Doctor when they joined forces. Good god people, read the book! James Random 10:31, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Another thing
It should also be mentioned that the sound the screwdriver makes is dubbed in, although the screwdriver itself does make the noise, it generally can't be picked up by the overhead mics - an example of this can be seen in the Idiot's Lantern when The Doctor is trying to gain entry to the Warehouse taht the police are using as a secret HQ, when Tennent places the screwdriver back in his jacket pocket - you can see, just for the second, the nib light up where he's caught the button - but no sound is made. James Random 10:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Can someone contribute any light on the claims that writer Terrence Dicks (ref http://users.bestweb.net/~foosie/robot.htm) and actor Patrick Troughton (BBC documentary just prior to the first Bille Piper series, IIRR) also had creative input into the sonic screwdriver? Thank you. (Reader, October 2006.)

The New Sonic Screwdriver - Not A Cure-All
The new sonic screwdriver is actually not a cure-all. In most episodes, the Doctor uses the screwdriver as tool to do rather unimportant things (such as destroying remote controlled christmas trees, or, opening & closing doors), but never as a solution to the episode´s central problem: E.g. in Gridlock or in The Parting of the Ways, he frantically tries to repair machinery but the actual solutions come from the Face of Boe / Rose. In Love & Monsters, the cane holding the Abzorbaloff together is broken by Elton, not the Doctor´s screwdriver. Other examples may be found throughout the series. Usually the solutions come either from the Doctor´s companions or the Doctor´s skill or reasoning or confounding the enemy himself.

(such as destroying remote controlled christmas trees, or, opening & closing doors),

I fail to see how destroying an item that was going to kill you or putting a door between you and something that wants to kill you is 'unimportant'.

List too long
I have added an "Example farm" tag to the list of uses, as it looks very much like every time The Doctor uses his screwdriver for something slightly different, it gets added to the list. If it continues, then you will end up with a very long list which potentially could be added to indefinitely. I suggest that it gets trimmed down significantly. StephenBuxton 11:41, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

It's a "Laser Spanner" not a Sonic Spanner
In Smith and Jones, Martha Jones asks the Doctor if he "also has a laser spanner". He replies that he did until Emmeline Pankhurst stole it.

Deus Ex reference incorrect
"The "multitool" from Deus Ex and Deus Ex:Invisible War looks very similar to a screwdriver and is also mostly used to open locks. The difference is that each can only be used once."

This is factually incorrect. The Multitool looks more like a communicator from Star Trek: TOS and is used to override cameras, guns and alarm systems among other things. There is a device called a Lockpick which DOES resemble a sonic screwdriver, but it is a physical lockpick.

As such, I am removing this line from the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.136.139 (talk) 07:48, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

In-story origin
I looked up this article because I was curious whether the sonic screwdriver was introduced as a new invention, or as something that the Doctor had merely never mentioned before it was introduced. The fact that the first Doctor was locked up by his enemies as a matter of course suggests the former, but perhaps he had just left the sonic screwdriver on a shelf in the TARDIS. Does anyone know if this is hinted at at all? Or is it left ambiguous? 75.73.17.57 (talk) 16:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Sergei Alderman

Series 4 sonic pen
Re: Sonic Pen reference- isn't some of this conjecture or based on rumour that hasn't yet been confirmed? Also, spoileresque? Mentioning it's been seen and is a pen (that much is obvious from a screen cap) would be fine- but giving more details about the character isn't quite appropriate.. RubbishBeard (talk) 00:31, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Good point. I've rewritten the paragraph, omitting character name and other details. If someone wants to say it's Miss Foster, who she is and which episode, it needs a cite. --Karen | Talk | contribs 01:29, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I just happened across an interesting reference to something similar. In a documentary about the 1962 World's Fair in Seattle, there's a period voiceover that says "The turbine engined car of the future has no key. It will be locked and unlocked by a sonic pencil." Hmmm.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.165.190.31 (talk) 00:43, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Torchwood devices
In keeping with the placement of the "sonic lipstick" and "sonic suitcase", shouldn't the sonic devices in Torchwood be placed under "Related devices"? Other than them, the "Doctor Who and related media" section of "Other appearances" seems to focus on spin-off appearances of the actual screwdriver. Daibhid C (talk) 21:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The various sonic screwdrivers seen in Torchwood should be included under "Related Devices" rather than "Other Appearances". Or perhaps the Sarah Jane bit should be moved to "Other Appearances"? Either way, both sections probably need a clean up. Kelvingreen (talk) 22:46, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Merchandise links
The article has several mentions of a company that markets toy versions of the sonic screwdriver. I didn't think Wikipedia was a place for advertising - is the mention of the company (and link to their website) really justified? --Thoughtcat (talk) 19:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Long Game - Screwdriver/TARDIS.
Hey,

It says in the article that the Sonic Screwdriver is used to operate the TARDIS in The Long Game.

I personally can't remember this ever occuring...

Can anyone state when/how/what/where?

Or is is just a misprint ?

Many Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.131.223.152 (talk) 18:04, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

All evidence merely points toward the sonic screwdriver being able to activate various predefined emergency protocol that include startup, dematerialization and transportation to another location, rather than acting as a remote control itself. James Random (talk) 20:02, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

 * I would agree with 86.131.223.152's comment, but I don't have my copy of The Long Game to hand at the moment. I only remember the sonic being used to control the TARDIS in the other two episodes listed in the article. I will endeavour to locate my copy and check whether or not this is accurate and change it. If anybody else has a copy and can confirm this before me, please feel free to update. Thanks. --Sonicdrewdriver (talk) 09:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

 * It wasn't used as such in The Long Game...removed the reference. DonQuixote (talk) 12:43, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

 * Thanks, I thought as such. --Sonicdrewdriver (talk) 14:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

New image
I've rendered 3D models of the 2nd, 3rd, 4th/5th, 9th/10th, and 11th Doctors' screwdrivers and added that to the page, as there seemed to be far too much a focus on the 9th/10th Doctors' screwdrivers in the images and it was getting to look like a Character Options ad almost. I'd do the 7th/8th Doctors' screwdrivers as well but I don't have a good reference (VHS of The Enemy Within is fuzzy). Dodger (talk) 18:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Sorry to say but I've just nominated this file (and the picture of the toys) for deletion - see Possibly_unfree_files/2010_July_4 and commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Sonic Collection.png respectively. You could use it as a fair use image, but the screwdrivers do not qualify for the copyright exemption given to utilitarian objects. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

 * And I am disputing this, as I feel you are incorrect. Dodger (talk) 22:35, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

 * That's fine, I welcome discussion, I know I'm not always right. -mattbuck (Talk) 23:05, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Fair enough Dodger (talk) 23:42, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Craig Ferguson
Should we mention Craig Ferguson playing with it on the cold open of the show where he interviewed Matt Smith, and threatening to use it on the balls of the "producers" who didn't get clearance for the use of the Doctor Who theme? :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:28, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Classic images
I'm not entirely clear on the image rules (fair use and such) but would it be possible for someone who is to grab or ask one of the many Who fan sites for comparison shots of the various different Doctor's screwdrivers through the years?«»bd(speechify BOLO) 15:24, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Lead Too Short Label
Since the Lead Too Short label was added in October, the lead has been edited a few times. I think it now summarises the article quite well, and describes the screwdriver and a brief history. Does this tag still apply? If not, what else should be done to satisfy the conditions of a good lead? Any comments/suggestions would be good. --Sonicdrewdriver (talk) 12:35, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

The lead could be a bit more specific about introduction date and that it was deliberately omitted form the series for a while. Lookijg at the lead just now, I though the lead looked short in relation to the size of the rest of the article (espeically when looking at the TOC). But having looked at the content, it's because there's a fair bit of flannel and trivia in there - and the related devices looks like a load of OR. Essentially the lead is about right now. GraemeLeggett (talk) 14:42, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

History
I has really been annoying me for sometime that we don't have a formal list of models, so I added little varity notes to each section under history of the difrent types of sonic to not make a drastic change, thought of expanding it or stuff. It's not much, but its a start and I really want to improve it:

1968–1982, 1996

Models/Marks in these years - 4 - the 1st model/mark, seen in seasons 5 - 7 and used by the First Doctor in the Virgin Missing Adventures series and on TV for the first time by the Second Doctor in Fury from the Deep and shortly by the Third Doctor, the 2nd model/mark seen in seasons 7 - 11 and used by the Third Doctor, the 3rd model/mark seen in seasons 11 - 19 and used by the Fourth and Fifth Doctors until destroyed in The Visitation, and the 4th model/mark, seen in 1996 TV Movie and ued by the Seventh Doctor at the end of his life and by the Eighth Doctor.

2005–2010

Models/Marks in these years - 3 - the 5th model/mark, seen in series 1 - 3, used by the Ninth and Tenth Doctors, and possibly the Eighth Doctor, the 6th model/mark, seen in series 3 - 5, used by the Tenth Doctor and shortly by the Eleventh Doctor, and the Future model/mark, seen in Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead and in future Doctor Who episodes, used by River Song who said the future Doctor uses it and gave it to her.

2010 – Present

Models/Marks in this year - 1 - the 7th model/mark, seen in series 5 - present, used by the Eleventh Doctor.

I made this to help -

- User:SammynSophie (talk) October 2, 2011

 * Thanks for your original research. However without a reliable source to verify your information, the inclusion of such material is against Wikipedia policy. And please don't re-add new material until the discussion has been resolved (WP:BRD).DonQuixote (talk) 13:37, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

 * It all seems a bit incoherent to me, maybe a brief summary of the different models would be warranted but in its current form it detracts from the article. I also don't think lots of templates are needed for minor characters that have appeared about 3 episodes. Will Bradshaw (talk) 15:47, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

 * Is it better now, I have a reference - http://www.rdwf.org.uk/sonics.htm

User:SammynSophie (talk) October 2, 2011

 * Please review WP:RS. DonQuixote (talk) 03:16, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Too many toys!
A thought - I got a little irritated browsing this article, with all the information about toys, props and replicas being intermingled with, and in some cases prioritised over, information about its use in the show. As this is of no interest to me as a reader, and as the in-show history will be of no interest for those looking for info on the replicas etc, wouldn't it be a better idea to have dedicated show history and replica sections? 92.23.6.90 (talk) 16:30, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look at structuring it in a more coherent/logical manner. drewmunn talk 17:15, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

sonic screwdriver
I don't understand, you said you have not edited the sonic screwdriver page before yet you are undoing things that I have written that can be seen in the TV series. How do we get around this as? There is also incorrect information re Romans Sonic. It was never seen in City of Death as stated. It only appeared once!

Let me know how I can help with pictures, and episode refs please.

Lee

213.205.240.54 (talk) 06:47, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Hi! Before you contribute, I suggest you read the following pages:
 * Verifiability, specifically the sections on burden of evidence reliable sources.
 * No original research.
 * Identifying reliable sources, especially definition of a source and definition of published.
 * Finally, I suggest you take a look at the web, episode, and book citation templates, used to cite such sources in your contributions.
 * Hopefully these will help clear up why the content you added previously was not suitable, and how you can improve it. It is also worth noting that the appearance of items as props needs to be sourced from somewhere other than the episode itself; especially where the item has been modified. For this reason, interviews, books, behind-the-scenes documentaries, and similar sources are the best place for you to start when looking to prove such a claim. I hope these help you! drewmunn talk 09:32, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Hi there hope you received my message?

 * You said you have not edited the sonic screwdriver page before so how can I send you correct information regarding its screen time etc. As u said, it wasn't used regularly by the 2nd Dr. It was only used 3 times, in just 4 episodes. ( Fury, Dominators & War Games). It was only mentioned once in the 3rd Drs 1st series (Silurians) before returning on screen in Colony in Space. As for the descriptions of the props used. These can be seen in official BBC photos, Telesnaps (still photos of on-air transmissions of 1960's episodes commissioned by the BBC) and of course the episodes themselves that are available on DvD. The uses of the Sonic and episode appearances are detailed on the web and have been compiled accurately. Perhaps a link to those pages should be mentioned?

 * The other information re the purchase of Gerry Anderson props is mentioned on a DvD amongst other sources. (Frontier in Space) as well as Matt Irving interviews re the Sonic Screwdriver. What information or links do you retire me to send to you so this can be updates and corrected.

 * I look forward to a reply at your earliest convenience.

 * Kind regards

 * Lee

 * PS as previously mentioned Romana's Sonic screwdriver Did not appear in City of Death.

 * 213.205.240.65 (talk) 22:43, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

 * I have edited the sonic screwdriver page before (it's one of the ones on my list of favourites to look after; the photo is mine, and my username takes its cues from the page). You did, however, end up on GSK's talk page (not sure how), and it was he who stated he has not contributed to this page. The article itself doesn't say how many times, or with what frequency, the Second Doctor used it, so it's not necessary at this time to make any changes to the information there. Also note that audio plays, books, and other potentially canonical adventures exist with the Second Doctor, so on-screen appearances may not be the only time he used the tool. As I stated previously, you cannot use primary sources (the TV episodes, or frames from them) as evidence that a certain item was used as the prop. You ideally need to cite a source such as a behind-the-scenes documentary, book, or production log that notes what the prop was. Without such a source, including what the prop was is classed as original research, which isn't allowed. Information on the Gerry Anderson prop is more likely to be included, as you've given a source for it above. For the DVD that you mention, I'd ideally need the following:
 * DVD title
 * Publisher
 * Disc or volume number
 * Location of information (i.e. "Director's commentary", or the name of the special feature)
 * For the interview, if you could provide a link to it (should it be available online), then all the information can be taken from that. If not, I'd need information on where it appeared, when it was published, and other identifying information on the medium and publication. As there is no citation for the Romana remark to conflict with what you've said, I'll remove that now. I hope this helps. drewmunn talk 09:24, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

It's the same one?
The lead of this article states: "Throughout the programme, there have been many different versions of the sonic screwdriver, as with subsequent Doctors the design of it was changed. It has also been destroyed on a number of occasions, thus leading to the introduction of the next model. Not all iterations of the Doctor have used the sonic on screen; the Fifth Doctor in fact opted not to replace his after it was destroyed."

However, in "The Day of the Doctor", it was stated that each successive regeneration of the Doctor – at least, from The War Doctor (Hurt) to the Eleventh Doctor (Smith) – has used the same sonic screwdriver, just upgraded. This was a plot point: it would have taken centuries for the sonic screwdriver to complete a task, it was revealed that sonic screwdriver had been working on the calculations commenced with The War Doctor's version which would allow the Eleventh Doctor's version to work. This is mentioned in the plot summary: "All three Doctors are captured and imprisoned in the Tower of London, where the Moment encourages the War Doctor to form an escape plan involving calculations which would take 'centuries', but which were begun on the War Doctor's sonic screwdriver and have therefore completed on the Eleventh's screwdriver, four hundred years in its future."

Shouldn't this be mentioned on this article? —sroc 💬 13:32, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Probably not entirely relevant, since the sonic has been destroyed at least twice since War Doctor with the Doctor discarding the old one and continuing with a new one, rather than fixing/upgrading the same device (Screwdriver of Theseus, anyone?). So "same software, different case" isn't entirely accurate. But you could argue that each model (different hardware/case) has the same software loaded onto each device and the TARDIS keeps backups (sonic cloud?). So when the device gets destroyed, the TARDIS makes him a new one with the last backup and so the calculation carries on from where it was last saved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.232.103.35 (talk) 15:04, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Star Trek
The episode Assignment Earth features a servo weapon wielded by Gary Seven. It was first broadcast a month or so before the sonic screwdriver was first seen on Doctor Who. Is there a connection? 86.164.38.40 (talk) 14:32, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Not Fictional
Actually as of last year (2014), physics researchers from the University of Dundee have been able to create a sonic screwdriver using ultrasonic waves. They have also succeeded in creating a tractor beam, which can pull objects towards the device using negative gradient forces.

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/235561213_A_Sonic_Screwdriver_Acoustic_Angular_Momentum_Transfer_for_Ultrasonic_Manipulation

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saving river song's life ?
i think this is a strong statement considering her consciousness merely got uploaded in the library's database 92.88.171.20 (talk) 20:44, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

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