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Hello, Guðsþegn, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place  on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! KHM03 01:02, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Infobox templates
That is the standard we had used on over 80 other hurricane sites - it is not new with Katrina. Those images should be placed elsewhere on the page in an appropriate section. It just messes up all the other ones... CrazyC83 21:24, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

MSNBC graphic
The MSNBC graphic you implemented into the hurricane katrina article is likely copyvio. Please use public domain resources instead. -- tomf688  01:57, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

Greetings
Hi. If you're interested in editing articles on Calvinism, or Christian articles generally, I suppose that you might see me fiddling with them from time to time. Catholic Reformed Baptist ... in that order? :-) — Mark (Mkmcconn) ** 07:20, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Hello
I would like to contact you regarding an article you posted on a US Christian Democratic Party.

Pleae contact me on email: pdc90dem@hotmail.com

pdc90dem on AIM.

Thanks!

Nicene Creed
Christopher, I reverted your recent change to the Nicene Creed page. I put the reasoning in Talk:Nicene_Creed. Please let me know if you prefer alternate wording (perhaps via discussion on the talk page there). Johnh 18:32, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Template:Christian denomination tree (categories)
Why did you replace the Quakers with Pentecostalism? KHM03 21:07, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I did that because Pentecostalism is a much more significant movement than Quakerism. I also replaced Anabaptist with Baptist because of the significance of the movement; and added Churches of Christ to Restorationism because of its significance. -- Chris 00:05, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

I would take issue with some of that...for instance, the Anabaptist movement is more significant historically than the Baptists, who were largely birthed by the Anabaptists. Quakerism, also, historically, was very important, though, I grant that it looks as if Pentecostalism is (or soon will be) equally so. Anabaptists were placed there largely to cover both the Mennonite-style folks as well as the Baptists (who are also in large part covered under Calvinism). KHM03 03:49, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I take the general point on Anabaptism. I think another way might be for me to create a category page called "credobaptism" (as a movement) that could list all the various links for Anabaptists, Baptists, and believer baptism in general.  Also a category page on "Proto-protestantism" (Waldensians, Huss, Wycliffe, Tyndale, Anabaptists, etc.).  In addition, a "revivalism" page could be made that includes Methodism, among others.  Moreover, I think we should delete the portion on Restoration movements, and have two lines on Protestant movements, spreading it to include: Proto-protestantism, Lutheranism, Calvinism, Credobaptism, Puritanism, Revivalism, Liberalism, Evangelicalism, and Pentecostalism.  What do you think? -- Chris 19:23, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

 * BTW, Pentecostalism is the largest Protestant group worldwide.

Political spectrums
I saw your proposal at Political spectrum, and responded over there. But if you're interested in political spectrums, I invite you to take a look at one I proposed. I believe its fairly balanced, and for reasons cited believe it describes the spectrum more accurately than the Nolan Chart and derived models.

By the way, my views were initially very similar to yours (pro-life, pro-universal health care), although they've shifted a bit towards the left lately. I had actually thought about starting a Communitarian Party or Christian Democratic Party, and am certainly interested in the one you're trying to get started. Your link to its website didn't bring anything up, though... If you're interested in a discussion about politics, political spectrums, or plans for the Party, I'll be back from Fresno on Sunday (leaving tommorrow morning). Juan Ponderas 08:22, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Christian Democracy
Hi. I'm the person who listed your article on the CDP USA on WP:AFD. I have recently been messing around with userboxes and ran into the Christian democrat userbox you made. I renamed the template in accordance with new naming standards; it's now called User Christian democrat. I also changed the template so it adds people who use the userbox to Category:Christian democrat Wikipedians. Additionally, I removed your userpage from Category:Christian Democracy and Category:Christian Democrats -- those categories are for articles in the main namespace and not user pages. I just wanted to leave you a note to explain this so you wouldn't be confused. I hope it won't be a bother.

As a further note, I just wanted to mention that I hope there are no hard feelings about deleting the page for CDP USA. I'm not against the party or Christian democrats, but it's clearly a party you're starting, so Wikipedia was being used as a forum for original work rather than an encyclopedia to document events. When the party is registered or runs in an election, I think that will be encylopedic enough to warrant inclusion. Best wishes, Tetraminoe 03:10, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Fideism
I see you contributed edits to the article on Fideism. I moved the "note" to talk, because I suspect it needs to be hashed out further: I don't know of any version of Christianity that doesn't make faith in God's existence a necessary cause for salvation, even if such faith is not a sufficient cause. Proof of God's existence would therefore threaten to contradict a major element in the belief required by Christian revelation. It may be that the existing wording of the article doesn't make this clear enough, or that the "note" might be worded to read better. At any rate, this is an invitation to come to the page and work this out. — Smerdis of Tlön 06:11, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Username change
Please see my comments by your entry at Changing username. Regards — Dan | talk 20:56, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I've changed "Guðsþegn" to "Guðsþegn 2" and your primary account to "Guðsþegn". I hope this is satisfactory. Regards — Dan | talk 19:26, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

From the only other user with the Reformed Baptist userbox. A.J.A. 21:57, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Template:Christian theology
Please give the rationale for your changes on the talk page, in case anyone (including myself!) has any questions. Thanks...KHM03 18:25, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

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An Esperanzial note
As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.

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Another Esperanzial note...
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Done and Done
No prob, my friend. Happy Wikiing! Karm a  fist  04:11, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Karmafist. -- [[Image:Flag_of_Iceland.svg|25px|IS]] Guðsþegn – UTCE – 04:14, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * You're quite welcome. Please let me know if there's anything else I can help out with, i'll do likewise, if you don't mind. Karm  a  fist  04:20, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Talk to him, tell him it's simply an objective statement (this user supports x), and that any "divisiveness" isn't coming from the userbox, but rather actions towards the userbox and you'll recreate it if necessary. Karm  a  fist  17:50, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, go here and vote to keep the thing. And tell others to do so as well.  Karm  a  fist  18:36, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Is this necessary? --Interiot 23:08, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I just thought I would inform a few of those who might care. [[Image:Flag_of_Iceland.svg|25px|IS]] Guðsþegn – UTCE – 23:34, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

war on freedom of speech on user pages
The thing I hate most about this war on freedom of speech on user pages is that the accusers always seem to have this presumption of good will, which leads to the "offending" userbox creator being guilty until proven innocent by a referendum. Guðsþegn – UTCE – 01:28, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Code for Catholic Evangelical userbox
 Adds the page to the following categories:
 * Category:Catholic Evangelical Wikipedians

Remove the "nowikis" to actually use it. Smerdis of Tlön 20:19, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I appreciate it. [[Image:Flag_of_Iceland.svg|25px|IS]] Guðsþegn – UTCE – 20:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Your Party's Userbox
What happened? Did it go through TFD or what? The cabal is trying to oppose me from getting my admin buttons back since they enjoy unilateral subjective actions without oversight from people such as myself. Karm a  fist  21:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * One of the anti-userbox crowd closed debate and basically said the result would depend on the result of the debate for all political userboxes. Said cabal, especially Improv and Cyde, are on a freaking religious box rampage too. [[Image:Flag_of_Iceland.svg|25px|IS]] Guðsþegn – UTCE – 21:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

User Reformed Baptist

Here you go. -- Smerdis of Tlön 00:19, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. [[Image:Flag_of_Iceland.svg|25px|IS]] Guðsþegn – UTCE – 05:31, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

saving code for: Template:User Christian democrat
  Adds the page to the following categories:
 * Category:Christian democrat Wikipedians

trying new sig
Guðsþegn – UTCE – 17:45, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Guðsþegn – UTCE – 17:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Guðsþegn – UTCE – 18:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Guðsþegn – UTCE – 18:22, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Guðsþegn – UTCE – 18:37, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

 * z0mg no. Images, especially multiple images, in signatures are discouraged.  As are sigs that are overly long in edit mode.  --Interiot 18:43, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

testing with single image ...

Guðsþegn – UTCE – 19:56, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Guðsþegn – UTCE – 20:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

and not ...

 Guðsþegn – UTCE – 20:46, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

 Guðsþegn – UTEX – 20:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

  GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 22:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

  GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 16:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Amendment
I like what you added for conditional support. If this policy has to pass then it should pass with your suggestion added. You should add a note on the talk page to try and get people to agree and admend the policy to allow a listing of userbox in a centralized place.--God Ω War 20:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response, and perhaps support.   GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 20:37, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi
Hello, I just wanted to say I like your name (username, etc.), and its meaning. I may name my kid a variation of it. Эйрон Кинни (t) 02:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Reposting my response from Kinneyboy90's talk page (for my records):
 * Thank you for the recent compliment regarding my name, i.e. my username. I just invented the name "Guðsþegn" myself.  Icelanders have a tendency to have compound names, especially patronyms of course, but also including compound given/Christian names.  So for example, God's Thane --> Godsthane --> (in Icelandic or Old Norse) Guðsþegn.  I was thinking about naming my son (if the Lord in his providence so gifts me) that name as well, perhaps as a middle name.  Some other examples of compound given names and patronyms: Þorvaldur Eiríksson, Þorfinnur Karlsefni, Þórbergur Þórðarson, Guðríður Þorbjarnardóttir, and Guðmundur Hagalín.  Again, thanks.  Feel free to use it for your son, as you mentioned.    GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 23:34, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Your welcome. Nice invention. Эйрон Кинни  (t) 23:40, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes
I can assure you I looked at the debates and restored the userboxes that should've been restored. User Catholic Evangelical wasn't deleted so I didn't touch it. It is listed on TfD and it's ultimate fate would be decided there.  Grue  20:20, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You gotta be kidding. I didn't know about that TFD. It should never have been started because of the pending DRV that you just closed. How many votes must this userbox suffer? Perhaps before that vote ends Improv could speedy delete it again, and then that TFD could be nullified in favor of a new DRV. This is madness.   GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 20:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Tell that to people that constantly relist/delete it. I have no problem with this userbox and I don't know how it can offend anyone.  Grue   21:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for your support in my request for adminship. I'm delighted that the RfA succeeded with a final consensus of 52/17/7, and receiving comments including having 'excellent potential to become a great moderator', and I am now an administrator. It did however only just pass, and I shall do my very best to rectify any of my errors, including the general belief that I should do more article work. If you have any concerns, or if you ever feel that I may be able to help you, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Again, thank you! Ian13/talk 19:43, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the help
I still haven't fully figured out the correct text used in userboxes to make it subst the username, and hence sort the category according to name. ? When I tried it, it didn't seem to work, but after you altered categories for the architecture userboxes, adding the one you found that I didn't know about (dang case sensitivity), it seemed to work correctly, even though as far as I could tell you didn't alter the relevant language. It's a bit bewildering. But thanks anyway. BTW, I couldn't find a 'how-to' page describing exactly how to create a category of users via inserting userboxes. I know the concepts, but somehow the verbage doesn't seem to work sometimes. :-/   GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 09:22, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, it is rather complicated; I had to look at a lot of userboxes to find the ideal text, not only because of the bewildering amount of code involved for such little things, but also because many userboxes are quite inconsistent in how or whether they use categories (and in other areas)! I don't know if there's any guideline for making them; the guides at Userboxes seem pretty basic, probably because users are too busy arguing over the new userbox policy votes to do much of anything else. :) I like your new boxes, though, and am glad you've got it working now; if you do have any future troubles with any templates (or anything else), no matter how trivial, feel free to give me a call here and I'll help fix 'er up or explain what's going wrong with the code.
 * Also, good luck with WikiProject Architecture! I look forward to any future improvements to Wikipedia's architecture articles; I've tinkered around with a few Greco-Roman architecture pages in the past, but a lot of these articles are in pretty bad shape, so it's a good thing that users have new ways to work together on this subject now! -Silence 09:36, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Middle-earth
Plase go to the Things to Do page—that is where are main tasks list/discussion is! Thank you. Oh and if you'd like, there's a userbox for our WikiProject to show your support for it :):

—Mirlen 12:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Here's a userbox for you. --Cyde Weys 04:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Isn't it ironic; don't ya think?   GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 05:11, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

Thank you for your support in my RfA.

Sadly, my RfA failed (on my birthday out of all days!), mainly due to it's closeness to the previous one. I hope that in any future RfAs I'll have your support!

Nonetheless, if I can do anything for you don't hesitate to ask me.

Have a nice St Patrick's Day! Computerjoe 's talk 22:13, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

My RFA withdrawal :(
Hello Guðsþegn, it is my apologies to bring you that I've withdrawn my RFA. Due to the lack of experience, I would go under admin coaching first before trying again later. I would thank you for your vote in this RFA whether you voted support, oppose or neutral for me. I appreciate your comments (if you do have) you made and I hope to see you here in future. --Ter e nce Ong 05:13, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

UT Wikiproject
Hello Guðsþegn, welcome to the UT Wikiproject. We are very happy to have you on board! As you can see from the project page, we are just getting ramped up. One of the first things we are hoping to do is to agree on a Project Project Notice for Article Discussion pages. This would be a template that we can place on the Discussion pages of all articles related tot the project. A few designs have been proposed and are being discussed at: WikiProject_University_of_Texas_at_Austin/Page_notice  If you could please make a comment, or support a design or two, or even contribute a new design, that would be fabulous. Once we get a few users agreed to a notice, we will put it on all the relevant article talk pages. We anticipate this will draw lots of editors to the project. Again, welcome! Johntex\talk 06:12, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks!
Hi Kristófur! Thank you for supporting my RfA. It passed at 105/1/0, putting me in WP:100 - I'm delighted and surprised! I'm always happy to help out, so if you need anything, please drop me a line. Cheers! ➨ ❝ R E  DVERS ❞ 20:13, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Summary
Author: Christopher Erickson (aka User:Guðsþegn) Subject: My two beloved Weimaraner puppies (approx. 9 mos. old) Details: Made using cell phone camera (LG L1400); modified levels etc. with Adobe Photoshop 5.0

FPC of dogs
You said: "Enough already. At this point it's just piling on."

 * Hey, take it easy! We're not criticising you personally, we criticise the image and the techique by which is was created. FPC is a hard test, and it goes on for two weeks. In the past, other images have been shot down much more brutally than this. In fact, you can learn a lot on this page - it's a free course in photography! Take note of what is said, for and against any picture, and use what you learn to shoot better pictures in the future - yes, you may one day have a featured photo on WP! --Janke | Talk 20:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

CD temp
Hey there,

I see you've been adding the CD template to a lot of articles. Please check whether the addition of such templates does not interfere with the structure of the article. For instance, in Helmut Kohl, the template moves everything downward, leaving a gaping ugly hole in the middle. I've left the error so you can see what I mean.

I hope you dont have to backtrack too much work with this comment! Otherwise good job!

Cheers, The Minist  e  r of War  (Peace) 12:10, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I will check them again. I did make an effort to arrange them. That just happened to be a poor one.   GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 12:18, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Catholic social teaching
Why did you change the redirect back into a full article? The content is pedestrian, unsourced, and hardly worth its own article. There was a merge proposal, and it was merged, but you've unilaterally reversed it. Why should we not revert? --Hyphen5 15:33, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, in fairness, there was absolutely no discussion on the talk page regarding any merge into the RC article. The sub-section part of the link (i.e. to social teaching) was dead. There is no such section there. The topic is not covered adequately there. Moreover, while the article needs work, it is not exactly a grossly-violating article. It just needs some work, not a merge. The topic is worth a stand-alone article, if not several sub-articles. It should not be folded into the RC article, because the movement Christian Democracy, which is highly tied to the concept of CST, is not tied to the Roman Catholic Church itself. In short, CD exists independently of the RC, but not of CST. :-) Therefore CST needs an independent article. For example, I am a Christian Democrat who believes in 95%+ of CST, but I'm not Roman Catholic.   GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 16:28, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, Christian Democracy may not exist without CST, but I think the point is that CST does not exist without the RCC! You can't justify divorcing the Church's own teachings from its article by saying that you want to claim them for CD. In any event, as somebody who likes CST, you should be just as concerned as I am about the horrible state of that article. There is no context; it's just a list, and a specious one at that. That's why we merged it; to give it more attention at Roman Catholic Church. There was no discussion happening at Catholic social teaching because hardly anyone was paying attention to it.
 * Why aren't you a Roman Catholic, by the way? --Hyphen5 16:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Political linkage template
Hey, the political linkage template you're adding to many politics articles - it just seems out of place on an article - and the user can easily type something in the address bar. You could try moving them to the bottom of pages, so that it doesn't obstruct and distract from the content. -- infinity  0  21:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!!!
Happy birthday, Guðsþegn!!! Hope the coming year is wonderful for you. Cheers. -- LV (Dark Mark)  00:51, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy birthday! — Ilyan  e  p  (Talk)  02:10, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

''' Happy Birthday!  --Misza 13''' T C 17:01, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Thank you. Thank you.   GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 17:05, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Votes for best User page
Hello, Guðsþegn! I would like to first wish you a very, very late happy birthday (I haven't been keeping very good track of Esperanza's calendar!) and let you know that I've nominated you for the Content section of the Votes for best User page. I personally think you have an excellent user page and I believe other Wikipedians should get a chance to see what an wonderful job you've done ;) — Webdinger BLAH 02:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Thank you for your encouragement, and your nominating my user page.   GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 04:28, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Easter!

from Mirlen's talk page: Mirlen, thanks for the Easter well-wishes. I hope you have a happy Easter as well.   GUÐSÞEGN

 * *grins* No problem. — Mir l  e  n  19:23, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Calvinist confederacy
If you have a moment, please lend your thoughts to Articles for deletion/Calvinist confederacy. --Flex 01:38, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Old Skool Esperanzial note
Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Cel es tianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Alternative Links
Why are they so dissimilar? All three—Zionism, Christian Democracy, and Islamism—blend religious and political ideologies. And nowhere in the article does it say Christian Democracy advocates the seperation of church and state. They are similar enough in form to be linked to each other under "See Also." Please consider reverting your revert.--<tt> The </tt> i  kiro  id  (talk parler hablar paroli 说 話し parlar) 23:00, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Can you not distinguish a difference between Vicente Fox of Mexico or Angela Merkel of Germany and the Hamas leadership of Palestine or Ali Khamenei of Iran? That's the difference betweem Christian Democracy and Islamism. One advocates democracy (rule of the people) and the other advocates theocracy (a misnomer in this case; word means rule of God, though there is nothing godly about Hamas or Iranian leadership).   GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 03:20, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm not saying that christian democracy is the same as these, or that it promotes or advocates Zionism or Islamism. I'm saying that they share enough similar traits that they should provide links to one another. They all blend religious and political ideologies. That's what they have in common. That's it.--<tt> The </tt> i  kiro  id  (talk ) (Help Me Improve) 23:47, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

The Catholic Church
Thank you for you note on my talk page. I appreciate that you and many others do not agree with the usage of the term, Catholic, for the the Church based in Rome. I respect you freedom to disagree; however, I do not believe you have the right to tell people how to name themselves. The Catholic Church could claim the rights to all the names of the various Christian Churches saying that their use of their name is "parochial." Of course this would be rude and condescending, and we do not. For instance, we could say that "Baptist" really should only be used to refer to all Christians, since we all practice baptism. Presbyterian--well, Catholics, Orthodox, and Anglicans would all have a much fairer claim to that title than Presbyterians do, since that term is understood to mean "priest," which they do not actually have. Methodists hardly have a method, but many other churches claim to. Everyone claims to be "orthodox", many churches are "episcopal" in their governance. Oh, and precisely which church is not evangelical in some fashion? ...etc., etc. (Not to mention LDS!) So, the first argument is that it is a matter of respect to call churches by how they call themselves. That is a minimum decency that civil people afford eachother. (

Also, it drives me crazy that Spanish speakers insist that the Americas are one continent and every on it is an "American," so, US citizens should really be "Unitedstatians," or some such other un-English formulation because it better suites their sensibilities. Let's just say that's not going to happen. In a likewise manner, it is very awkward English to use "Roman" in every reference to Catholicism. No one I know really talks like that. It is just poor sounding English.

Also, there are many Catholic Churches is the original sense of the term that do not call themselves "Roman," such as the Greek Catholic Church, the Ruthenian Catholic Church, the Maronite Catholic Church, etc. By original sense of the term I mean that "catholic" in the early church meant those in communion with the Church of Rome. Ignatius, if you read his discussion on the Church, literally says this! "Roman" Catholic within the Catholic Church means the "Latin Rite" almost always, though sometimes sometimes the term is used for the entire Catholic Church to emphasize the primacy of the Bishop of Rome, Primate of the West, Vicar of Christ, etc.

Now for the historical/institutional matter: No one in the 16th Century argued that the Catholic Church of Trent was a different institution from the one that Luther and the rest protested against and had sought to reform. Also, there was no Western Christian prior to the Reformation(s) that did not understand the Western Church as the Catholic Church. It is very clear that the Catholic Church after the reformation is the same institution that existed before and had alway called itself since Ignatius of Antioch the Catholic Church. The theology of sacraments, ecclesiology, etc. had not changed with the Reformation. So, the burden of proof is on someone who wants to claim that the Catholic Church ceased to be itself such that it needed to change its name.

Now this is where it gets interesting. The term "Roman Catholic" only came into vogue in the 19th Century for a number of reasons. It was a way for Catholics to distinguish themselves from others who broke away but kept the name, such as the "Old Catholics." It was a way to distinguish Latin Catholics from Eastern Rite Catholics within the Catholic Church. And, most interestingly for this discussion, Anglicans which had never had much use for any claims to being "Catholic" suddenly became interested in the term when the intense study of the previously lost patristic texts showed how ancient the term was and how "Catholic" the early church was in its theology and ecclesiology. Such patristic studies gave rise to the Oxford Movement and eventually the claim to Anglo-Catholicism. Of course, that the Anglican church was clearly protestant historically is demonstrated by such names as "The Protestant Episcopal Church of American," which is the original name of the ECUSA.

The term "Catholic Church" is never used in capitalized form for the "universal Christian church," because that would be confused with the Catholic Church. Except in the creeds, this term is never used without qualification for that purpose. Besides, we are talking about corporate entities, concrete churches. The abstranct sense is not a practical term but a theological conception (which does not make it any less real, but does put it in another distinct specific conversation in which the speakers would know the difference).

Lastly, while Catholics do occasionally call themselves Roman Catholics (only in the West) we have at no time in history ever ceased to call ourselves simply Catholics. This the name for our Church and ourselves in continuous use from the time of Igantius of Antioch ~107 A.D. '' Use of "the Catholic Church" is not "parochial," which seems to be an intentionally demeaning term, but is rather historical. Ignatius, by the way, was an Eastern Patriarch (of Antioch) and still claimed communion with the Bishops and especially the Bishop of Rome as the essential way to distinguish orthodox Christianity from false revelations, prophets, philosophies, etc.'' This explains the strangeness of WP aticles on publications such as the "National Catholic Reporter" with the word Roman interjected at every instance of the word "Catholic" except in the title of the "NCR" and the WP article title on the subject. It is just awkward, forced and ultimately a POV ideological imposition.

Thanks for reading. --66.254.235.186 02:02, 27 April 2006 (UTC) --Vaquero100 02:03, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Justification article
Hi,

I noticed that you appeared in the edit history of the justification (theology) article. I recently made major changes to the article in an effort to move it to NPOV. If you have any suggestions for improvement (style, content, whatever), please leave a comment on the talk page for that article. The goal is to get the article to the point that the POV and cleanup templates can be removed.

Thanks, --jrcagle 20:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

John Calvin
What the caption says. Blarneytherinosaur 08:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Architect and Building Templates
I was wondering if you might be interested in writing a template for and  as referenced in the architecture wikiproject?--Mcginnly 19:23, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

What's your prediction?
Will Colt McCoy be the starter for the 2006 Texas Longhorn football team? And are you able to keep up with the games over there? I hope all is well. Johntex\talk 01:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Cel es tianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject:Architecure Peer Review proposal
I'm trying to build a consensus for a Wikiproject Peer review process. I've opened a discussion page here. Would you like to comment? Would you be prepared to take part in the peer review process? Many thanks. --Mcginnly | Chinwag 12:23, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

IG Farben Building FAC
Also, I posted the IG Farben Building on the FAC on the 17th July. It currently has a support consensus, but only from 4 people. I'd be more comfortable with a stronger consensus and was wondering if you might be prepared to comment on the article? Many thanks. --Mcginnly | Chinwag 12:23, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Fair use in templates
While it may be legal, it is still not permited by Wikipedia policy. The reason for this is that having a large number of exceptions depending on a dizzying array of potential circumstances creates a situation that is untenable from a management of copyright concerns perspective. Thus, the policy is written such that the use of fair use images in templates is proscribed. Please see Fair use criteria item #9 where it says "All other uses, even if legal under the fair use clauses of copyright law, should be avoided". Fair use images are to be used only in main namespace articles. Thus, it was properly removed from Christian Democracy sidebar. If you have any questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. All the best, --Durin 04:17, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Box on CST page
Kristófur, I have a suggestion concerning the Catholic social teaching page, and the Chistian Democracy box. The box was deleted during the recent cleanup efforts, as a couple of us were concerned that CST was more than just a subtopic of CD. I noticed that you put it back in recently. (Well, we are supposed to edit boldly . . . ;) ) Instead of just reverting that change, I have an proposal for you.  I still think the box may be a bit much for that page, but the Euopean Christain Democracy movement has played an important part in the development of CST, a part that simply concentrating on encyclicals will miss.  Apparently, you know a great deal more about the CD movement than the rest of us -- would you consider dropping the box, but adding some content about the interaction of CD and the development of CST?  I think it would result in a greatly improved article, perhaps a better one than many of the alternatives on the net.

Thanks one way or the other. --ClaudeMuncey 21:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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Re:Christianity template
Thanks Taking a look presently. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 15:32, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Please stop adding this - it's too big and ugly and takes up too much space in articles. Valuable space that could be used for text and/or pictures. -- Stbalbach 05:33, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's not too big (approx. same size as Judaism), it's not ugly, and ... uuuuh .... this is the internet ... space is not limited.    GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 15:10, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

 * No this is Wikipedia and space is limited in articles. They are only so long and text and pictures always take priority over nav templates which add nothing to an articles content and in fact encourage readers to go elsewhere. Those of us who actually write articles and take pride in our work are fairly miffed by the proliferation of multi-colored, half-screen-size nav templates that squash the text and pictures made by people who never contributed anything to the article in the first place. Then when people complain you don't say "OK, maybe we can try a less obtrusive version, like one along the bottom of the page etc.." you force it and point to other large ugly obtrusive templates which are redundant with Categories and See Also's - why not just make the top %50 of the article a big nav template, I could think of a few thousand articles that could be linked to Christianity. -- Stbalbach 20:20, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Calvinism v. Arminianism external link
The author of this article on Arminianism v. Calvinism has requested that we link to it in relevant articles, but he does not want to violate the policy of personally adding a link to material he himself wrote. What do you think of it with reference to WP:EL? --Fl e x (talk|contribs) 15:28, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

ESV userbox
Thought you might be interested in the new userbox I created:. Grace and peace, HokieRNB 21:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

SMILE

has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

WikiProject Iceland
Maybe you are interested in this project... --Michkalas 15:22, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity
Hi, I saw your name on the WikiProject Christianity Membership page.

I've made some changes to the WP Christianity main project page, added several sup-project pages, created a few task forces section, and proposed several more possible changes so that we can really start making some serious progress on the project. Please stop by and see my comments on the project talk page here and consider joining a task force or helping out with improving and contributing to our sub-projects. Thanks for your time! Nswinton 13:15, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Calvinism welcome
Btw, if the following edit isn't yours (it was added by an IP address), it may interest you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Calvinism&diff=126391580&oldid=126340727

-- TimNelson 02:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Your Nordic-Celtic flag
Someone is selling it on keychains. Just thought you'd be interested to know this. Cheers.--Pharos 00:29, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Dominionism
Hi Guðsþegn. I've noted that you were active on the topic of "Dominionism" back in 2006, and I was impressed with the gracious and articulate way in which you conducted the debate. You might be interested in this strawman draft for overhauling the article, which I just posted to Talk:Dominionism. --BlueMoonlet 03:34, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Manti-1999.jpg
I'll defend you for ya', I'll remove it from the Anti-Mormonism article and put it back where it's supposed to be. ViperSnake151 15:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Template:Dominionism
As you participated in the prior TfD, I thought you would be interested that it has been proposed for deletion once again. You can find the discussion here. SkierRMH 02:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Manti-1999.jpg

 * An editor has asked for a deletion review of Image:Manti-1999.jpg. Since you uploaded the image and nominated the image for deletion, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- Jreferee    t / c  03:12, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Email
Hi Guðsþegn. Please check your email. --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 09:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Piper
Could you throw in your two cents at Talk:John_Piper_(theologian) Thanks! --Fl e x (talk/contribs) 16:25, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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Collapsable sections
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Happy Birthday
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BB9 USA HoH Controversy
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Tagging Annie Armstrong
I attempted to tag the article for Annie Armstrong for the WP Christianity as part of the Anabaptist Work Group, but I couldn't get the template to work. The article is featured on today's DYK page, so it needs to be added to the WP:Christianity's DYK section also.

Thanks SonPraises (talk) (contributions) 05:54, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Christianity WikiProject Newsletter - July 2008
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Longhorn revamp
I have recently overhauled the project page for the UT Austin WikiProject in an effort to rekindle a once active and still worthwhile goal—improving UT Austin-related articles. I noticed you are a member of the project and just wanted to invite you to get involved again however you can. Hook 'em Horns! --Eustress (talk) 17:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject University of Texas at Austin Collaboration for August 2008
Thanks to all those who helped out with UT Austin-related articles this last month. This month's collaboration needs help with transferring alumni names into the organizational tables in prep for FLC. I look forward to working with you. Hook 'em Horns! --Eustress (talk) 00:55, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Invitation
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WikiProject University of Texas at Austin Collaboration for August 2009
WP:UT's first priority is getting the flagship article (UT Austin) back to GA status and ultimately, FA status. So lets take this in baby steps and focus on one section at a time, and what better section the the first: history! Any contributions would be appreciated and... Hook 'em Horns! NThomas (talk) 00:51, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject United States Government
Greetings. I noticed that you are one of the members of WikiProject United States Government that are still active so I wanted to ask you a question. It appears that this project is mostly inactive aside from what the members might be doing independently. I was considering suggesting that this project be pulled in under WikiProject United States and wanted to solicit comments from some of this projects members before doing so. As with Washington DC and the others the project would for the most part maintain its own independence but I believe this would benefit both projects. What do you think about this? --Kumioko (talk) 23:48, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

May 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States
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June 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States
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Ichthus: January 2012

 In this issue...

- Ichthus is the newsletter of Christianity on Wikipedia • It is published by WikiProject Christianity For submissions contact the Newsroom • To unsubscribe add yourself to the list here
 * From the Editor
 * What are You doing For Lent?
 * Fun and Exciting Contest Launched
 * Spotlight on WikiProject Catholicism

Happy Birthday (2012)
'''Wishing Guðsþegn a very happy birthday on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 00:13, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Ichthus: May 2012

From the Editor
This month marks the observation of Pentecost, one of the most important feast of the Christian liturgical year. It is our hope here that all of you, regardless of your religious affiliation (if any), find that the holiday, and its accompanying activities, an enjoyable and beneficial experience. We also hope that this "Birthday of the Church" is one which gives you the same joy as the birthday of yourself or your loved ones.

Ichthus is the successor to the long running WikiProject Christianity newsletter, run under the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department. As such, you will continue to see information about our latest featured and good articles, DYKs, as well as new members who have joined our project. You might also see links to Christianity related news from the mainstream media! With that, I wish you all happy reading!

John Carter, Asst. Editor

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Help Bring Wikipe-tan "into the fold"
As many of you may know, our unofficial mascot, dear Wikipe-tan, hasn't yet indicated any particular beliefs. However, yes, as we all know, ahem, some people might object to our beloved mascot running around in a French maid outfit. People do talk, you know. ;) If anyone might be able to develop an image of the dear lady in a image more, well, "Christian," I would like to see perhaps a vote for next month as to which, if any, image of the dear girl we might make our own unofficial mascot. Please post your images here.

By John Carter

Christianity in other wikis
As many of you might now, there are a large number of other Wikimedia Foundation projects, including WikiSource, Wiktionary, Wikibooks, WikiQuote, and others. I certainly believe that Wikibooks and Wikiquote might be among the more directly relevant sister projects. If any of you can think of any particular efforts in these other projects which you think would benefit from more input, please let us know here, so we can help spread the word around.

By John Carter

Spotlight on the Outreach department
Ichthus will spotlight a different subproject or workgroup of WikiProject Christianity. This edition will spotlight on our vital Outreach department. This comparatively small, but vital, project unit is dedicated to welcoming new editors to Wikipedia and the Christianity related content, and to providing information to the various project members, in forms like this newsletter.

The scope of articles with which this group deals is truly enormous, and, given the wide variety of material with which we deal, we would very much welcome the input of more individuals, particularly individuals who are particularly knowledgeable of the less well-known and less frequently monitored articles related to Christianity.

Speaking personally, I would be very, very gratified if we were to have this become a very, very large and active unit, with members from the broad spectrum of Christian beliefs, practices, and groups. The broader the spectrum and areas of expertise of members we have, the better we will be able to help manage the content. Please consider whether you believe you might be able to contribute in this vital area.

By John Carter

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Ichthus: June 2012

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 331 active members. We would like to welcome User:Sanju87, User:Psalm84, User:Zegron, User:Jargon777, User:Calu2000, User:Gilderien, User:Ronallenus, Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.

From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. We have recently added some new sections to the newsletter. Please let us know what you think of the new departments, and if there are any other suggestions for departments you would like to see. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments. With that, I wish you all happy reading!

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Church of the month
by Berthold Werner Saint Catherine's Monastery, Mount Sinai

Vote for the project mascot
We had last month asked our members to help "bring into the fold" Wikipe-tan as the project's mascot. Voting will take place this month for which image we should adopt at WikiProject Christianity/Outreach/Wikipe-tan. Please take a moment to review the images and vote for whichever is your favorite, or, if you so prefer, suggest an additional one.

By John Carter

DYK

 * ...that Anna of Kashin, a Russian medieval princess, was twice canonized as a holy protectress of women who suffer the loss of relatives?

Calendar
Thie coming month includes days dedicated to the honor of Beheading of John the Baptist, Saints Peter and Paul, the Nativity of John the Baptist, and Saint Barnabas.

Featured content and GA report
Alec Douglas-Home recently achieved FA status. This picture, in the Church of the Month section, was recently promoted to Featured Picture status. Our thanks and congratulations to all those involved.

Wikimedia Foundation report
Wikisource currently has many old texts available, most of them in the public domain. This is a potentially very valuable source for several things, including for instance links to Biblical verses, because we know that it will, basically, be around as long as we are.

By user:John Carter with inspiration from History2007

Christian art
This section would include a rather large image of a specific work of art, with a link to the most directly relevant article. Suggestion: Resurrection of Christ, an English 15th century Nottingham alabaster. Groups of painted relief panels were sold via dealers to churches on a budget, who had wood frameworks made to hold them locally. From a huge new donation of images from the Walters Art Museum to Commons, see By Johnbod

Spotlight
A new WikiProject relating directly to Christian history is being developed at WikiProject Christian history. Also, a group specifically devoted to the Mennonites and other Anabaptists is now up and running at WikiProject Christianity/Anabaptist work group. Anyone interested in assisting with the development of these groups and topics is more than welcome to do so.

By John Carter

I believe
... in the statements contained in the Nicene Creed. I believe that the Bible is one of the two defining bases for belief. The other is the Sacred tradition, which provides us with means of interpreting the Scriptures, as well as some teachings which have been handed on by God outside of the scriptures. I believe that the Magisterium has been empowered to fill this interpretative function. I believe that clerical celibacy is a rule that should generally be followed. I am a member of the Catholic Church.

By John Carter

Help requests
Please let us know if there are any particular areas, either individual articles or topics, which you believe would benefit from outside help from a variety of other editors. We will try to include such requests in future issues.

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Ichthus: July 2012

 Membership report The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 336 active members. We would like to welcome User:Emilymadcat, User:Toa Nidhiki05, User:DonutGuy, and User:RCNesland, Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.

From the Editor Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. We have recently added some new sections to the newsletter. Please let us know what you think of the new departments, and if there are any other suggestions for departments you would like to see. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments. With that, I wish you all happy reading!

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Church of the month by User:JaGa Mission Santa Clara de Asis

Vote for the project mascot We had last month asked our members to help "bring into the fold" Wikipe-tan as the project's mascot. Voting will take place this month for which image we should adopt at WikiProject Christianity/Outreach/Wikipe-tan. Please take a moment to review the images and vote for whichever is your favorite, or, if you so prefer, suggest an additional one.

By John Carter

Calendar Thie coming month (mid-July through mid-September) includes days dedicated to the honor of Mary Magdalene, James, son of Zebedee, Ignatius Loyola, Saint Dominic, Joseph of Arimathea, and the Transfiguration of Jesus.

Featured content and GA report Grade I listed churches in Cheshire was recently promoted to Featured List status. This picture was recently promoted to Featured Picture status. Bartolome de las Casas and Edmund the Martyr were promoted to GA level this past month. Our thanks and congratulations to all those involved.

Wikimedia Foundation report Wikibooks welcomes the development of textbooks of all kinds, children's books, recipes, and other material. It currently has just under 2500 books, including several Wikijunior books for the 12 and under population. There is, at present, not even a book on Christianity. Anyone interested in helping develop such a textbook is more than welcome to do so.

By John Carter

Christian art

The portrait of Sir Thomas More by Hans Holbein the Younger. By John Carter

Spotlight A new WikiProject relating directly to Christian history is being developed at WikiProject Christian history. Anyone interested in assisting with the development of these groups and topics is more than welcome to do so.

By John Carter

I believe ... in the tradition of Thomas the Apostle, Mar Addai, and Saint Bartholomew. I believe that Jesus had two essences (or natures), human and divine, unmingled, that are everlastingly united in one personality. I am a member of the Assyrian Church of the East.

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1977 in country music

This is a list of notable events in country music that took place in the year 1977.

Events

 * June 25 — Waylon Jennings smash, "Luckenbach, Texas (Back to the Basics of Love)" spends its sixth week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot Country Singles chart. It is just the third (and as it turned out, final) six-week No. 1 song of the 1970s, and will be the last song to spend as long atop the charts for 20 years (until 1997's "It's Your Love" by Tim McGraw and Faith Hill).
 * June 26 — Elvis Presley performs his final concert at Market Square Arena in Indianapolis, Indiana. It would later be televised on October 3 on CBS to bad reviews.
 * December 31 — Dolly Parton's "Here You Come Again" spends its fifth week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot Country Singles chart. It will be the last song to spend that long atop the chart until 1990's "Love Without End, Amen" by George Strait.

United States
(as certified by Billboard)

 * Notes
 * 1^ No. 1 song of the year, as determined by Billboard.
 * A^ First Billboard No. 1 hit for that artist.
 * B^ Last Billboard No. 1 hit for that artist.
 * C^ Only Billboard No. 1 hit for that artist to date.

Canada
(as certified by RPM)

 * Notes
 * 1^ No. 1 song of the year, as determined by RPM.
 * A^ First RPM No. 1 hit for that artist.
 * B^ Last RPM No. 1 hit for that artist.
 * C^ Only RPM No. 1 hit for that artist.

Births

 * February 28 — Jason Aldean, male vocalist of the 2000s.
 * May 3 – Eric Church, male vocalist starting in the late 2000s, best known for "Springsteen" and "Drink in My Hand."
 * November 17 — Aaron Lines, Canadian country singer of the 2000s, best known for his hit "You Can't Hide Beautiful".
 * November 20 — Josh Turner, deep bass-voiced singer of the 2000s, best known for "Why Don't We Just Dance" and "Time is Love."

Deaths

 * March 22 – Stoney Cooper, 58, bluegrass and gospel singer who best known for his series of recordings with wife, Wilma Lee (as Wilma Lee and Stoney Cooper), from the 1940s through early 1960s.
 * May 31 – Lloyd Perryman, 60, member of the Sons of the Pioneers.
 * July 16 — Marg Osburne, 49, "The Girl from the Singing Hills", of CBC Radio and CBC Television fame.
 * August 16 — Elvis Presley, 42, "The King," cross-genre celebrity who fused rhythm and blues, rockabilly and country music to become popular with country and rock audiences (heart failure).
 * October 14 — Bing Crosby, 74, one of popular music's all-time leading performers; several of his 1930s and 1940s hits became hugely popular with country fans (including "Pistol Packin' Mama," the first-ever Billboard country No. 1 song). (heart attack)

Country Music Hall of Fame Inductees

 * Merle Travis (1917–1983)

Grammy Awards

 * Best Female Country Vocal Performance — "Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue", Crystal Gayle
 * Best Male Country Vocal Performance — "Lucille", Kenny Rogers
 * Best Country Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal — "Heaven's Just a Sin Away", The Kendalls
 * Best Country Instrumental Performance — "Country Instrumentalist of the Year", Hargus "Pig" Robbins
 * Best Country Song — "Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue", Richard Leigh (Performer: Crystal Gayle)

Juno Awards

 * Country Male Vocalist of the Year — Murray McLauchlan
 * Country Female Vocalist of the Year — Carroll Baker
 * Country Group or Duo of the Year — The Good Brothers

Academy of Country Music

 * Entertainer of the Year — Dolly Parton
 * Song of the Year — "Lucille", Roger Bowling and Hal Bynum (Performer: Kenny Rogers)
 * Single of the Year — "Lucille", Kenny Rogers
 * Album of the Year — Kenny Rogers, Kenny Rogers
 * Top Male Vocalist — Kenny Rogers
 * Top Female Vocalist — Crystal Gayle
 * Top Vocal Group — The Statler Brothers
 * Top New Male Vocalist — Eddie Rabbitt
 * Top New Female Vocalist — Debby Boone

Country Music Association

 * Entertainer of the Year — Ronnie Milsap
 * Song of the Year — "Lucille", Roger Bowling and Hal Bynum (Performer: Kenny Rogers)
 * Single of the Year — "Lucille", Kenny Rogers
 * Album of the Year — Ronnie Milsap Live, Ronnie Milsap
 * Male Vocalist of the Year — Ronnie Milsap
 * Female Vocalist of the Year — Crystal Gayle
 * Vocal Duo of the Year — Jim Ed Brown and Helen Cornelius
 * Vocal Group of the Year — The Statler Brothers
 * Instrumentalist of the Year — Roy Clark
 * Instrumental Group of the Year — Original Texas Playboys

Other links

 * Country Music Association
 * Inductees of the Country Music Hall of Fame

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Talk:Permesta

I copyedited as much as I could without changing the meaning as I understand it, but there were parts that didn't make sense to me and I was hesitant to change -- so the article could still use a bunch of work from someone who knows a bit more about the subject. -- Avocado 01:03, 2005 Jun 15 (UTC)

This is known in Indonesia as the PRRI-Permesta rebellion. The rebels recieved substanial sponsorship from the CIA, as is well documented. I hope to get some time to fix this up (and link relevant Indonesia pages into this) but haven't the time right now (sorry!). Anyone interested on the US aspect might start by reading Paul F. Gardner's book, Feet to the Fire: CIA Covert Action in Indonesia, 1957-58, or alternatively, Kahin & Kahin, Subversion as Foreign Policy: The Secret Eisenhower and Dulles Debacle in Indonesia. 192.43.227.18 10:09, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Could anybody add something from Permesta's perspective? I know there are some books written by PRRI/Permesta exponents. I was stunned when I read this line: "The most significant progenitor of the rebellion was the opportunism by local military leaders..."Ozeph (talk) 10:39, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

This article seems quite subjective and biased (from an anti Permesta perspective). The book 'Permesta: Half a rebellion,' by Harvey, B C (1977) is quoted in other publications as having extensive information on the subject. Also, publications such as 'Minahasa Civilization: A tradition of change', by Lundström-Burghoorn, W (1981) and 'Leadership and social mobility in a South East Asian society', by Schouten, M J C (1983) give reasons such as economic dominance and mismangagement from Jakarta (which resulted in stagnation of the north Sulawesi economy) as the reason for the armed rebellion rather than "the opportunism by local military leaders who during the Liberal Democracy Era in Indonesia (1950-1957), had developed a system of warlordism due to weakness and instability of central government in Jakarta.". This article should be amended.

mercenaries from... Poland
how could this possibly be true? does no one check things before publishing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Антон васильков (talk • contribs) 21:39, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Created the new page for armed conflict
Between the armed conflict and movement it's must be separated Adamara149 (talk) 12:07, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

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1978 in country music

This is a list of notable events in country music that took place in the year 1978.

Events

 * March 4 — The Public Broadcasting System (PBS) telecasts the first complete Grand Ole Opry show from the new Grand Ole Opry House as it happened from 6–9 pm. The show featured Del Reeves, The Willis Brothers, Billy Grammer, Lonzo and Oscar, Bill Monroe, Porter Wagoner, Roy Acuff, The Crook Brothers, The Fruit Jar Drinkers, Ronnie Milsap, Grandpa Jones, George Hamilton IV and others. The show would run over about 18 minutes the first night. The telecast would repeat from 1979 to 1981.
 * March 25 — "Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys" by Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson becomes the last song for 12 years to spend four weeks at No. 1 on Billboard's Hot Country Singles chart. There wouldn't be another four-week No. 1 until "Hard Rock Bottom of Your Heart" by Randy Travis in April 1990. The trend of fewer (and shorter) multi-week runs at No. 1 on Billboard, even for the year's biggest hits, is the result of changes in radio programming and the magazine's reporting methods.
 * May 6 — Bob Kingsley takes over hosting duties of "American Country Countdown," a stint that will last 27 years. He had been a producer of the radio countdown show since 1974.
 * May 24 — The United States Postal Service issues a 13-cent commemorative stamp honoring Jimmie Rodgers, one of the genre's pioneers. The Rodgers stamp, designed by artist Jim Sharpe, is the first in the Postal Service's long-running Performing Arts Series.
 * September — The Donna Fargo Show premieres in television syndication. The new show's debut comes around the same time Fargo was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. She receives successful medical treatment and with her husband's help, makes it back to excellent health.
 * October 4 — One of Nashville's most mysterious crimes involves the reported abduction and beating of Tammy Wynette. Media reports said that Wynette had been abducted by a masked man at a shopping center before the beating. No suspects were ever named or arrested. While Wynette would insist the story was true, her daughter raised doubts, claiming the incident was fabricated to cover physical abuse from her newlywed husband, songwriter/producer George Richey.
 * October 21 — Fans of Mel Street are saddened when the honky tonk-styled singer, who had long battled clinical depression and alcoholism, committed suicide on his 43rd birthday. He had signed a recording contract with Mercury Records earlier in the year.

United States
(as certified by Billboard)

 * Notes
 * 1^ No. 1 song of the year, as determined by Billboard.
 * A^ First Billboard No. 1 hit for that artist.
 * B^ Last Billboard No. 1 hit for that artist.
 * C^ Only Billboard No. 1 hit for that artist to date.

Canada
(as certified by RPM)

 * Notes
 * 1^ No. 1 song of the year, as determined by RPM.
 * A^ First RPM No. 1 hit for that artist.
 * B^ Last RPM No. 1 hit for that artist.
 * C^ Only RPM No. 1 hit for that artist.

Top new album releases
1 A collection of Crystal Gayle's earliest recordings from the early 1970s.

Christmas albums

 * Christmas Card – Statler Brothers (Mercury/Polygram)

Births

 * February 25 — Shawna Thompson, of Thompson Square.
 * April 15 — Chris Stapleton, male vocalist who helped revive the blues-soul sound of country music in the 2010s, most notably with the album Traveller.
 * June 13 – Jason Michael Carroll, late 2000s-to-early 2010s male vocalist best known for "Alyssa Lies."
 * July 21 — Brad Mates, lead singer of Canadian band Emerson Drive.
 * July 31 — Zac Brown, lead singer of his eponymously named band, who began having hits in the late 2000s.
 * September 14 — Danielle Peck, up-and-coming country music star

Deaths

 * June 12 — Johnny Bond, 63, singer of the 1940s through 1960s, best known for his novelty songs about drunkenness (heart attack).
 * October 21 — Mel Street, 43, honky tonk-styled artist and one of the most promising new artists of the 1970s (suicide).
 * October 23 — Maybelle Carter, 69, singer and songwriter of the Carter Family and mother of Anita, Helen and June Carter Cash.
 * December 16 — Jenny Lou Carson, 63, first female to write a #1 country hit ("You Two-Timed Me One Time Too Often").

Country Music Hall of Fame Inductees

 * Grandpa Jones (1913–1998)

Grammy Awards

 * Best Female Country Vocal Performance — "Here You Come Again", Dolly Parton
 * Best Male Country Vocal Performance — "Georgia on My Mind", Willie Nelson
 * Best Country Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal — "Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys", Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson
 * Best Country Instrumental Performance — "One O'Clock Jump", Asleep at the Wheel
 * Best Country Song — "The Gambler", Don Schlitz (Performer: Kenny Rogers)

Juno Awards

 * Country Male Vocalist of the Year — Ronnie Prophet
 * Country Female Vocalist of the Year — Carroll Baker
 * Country Group or Duo of the Year — The Good Brothers

Academy of Country Music

 * Entertainer of the Year — Kenny Rogers
 * Song of the Year — "You Needed Me", Randy Goodrum (Performer: Anne Murray)
 * Single of the Year — "Tulsa Time", Don Williams
 * Album of the Year — Y'all Come Back Saloon, The Oak Ridge Boys
 * Top Male Vocalist — Kenny Rogers
 * Top Female Vocalist — Barbara Mandrell
 * Top Vocal Group — The Oak Ridge Boys
 * Top New Male Vocalist — John Conlee
 * Top New Female Vocalist — Cristy Lane

Country Music Association

 * Entertainer of the Year — Dolly Parton
 * Song of the Year — "Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue", Richard Leigh (Performer: Crystal Gayle)
 * Single of the Year — "Heaven's Just a Sin Away", The Kendalls
 * Album of the Year — It Was Almost Like a Song, Ronnie Milsap
 * Male Vocalist of the Year — Don Williams
 * Female Vocalist of the Year — Crystal Gayle
 * Vocal Duo of the Year — Kenny Rogers and Dottie West
 * Vocal Group of the Year — The Oak Ridge Boys
 * Instrumentalist of the Year — Roy Clark
 * Instrumental Group of the Year — The Oak Ridge Boys Band

Other links

 * Country Music Association
 * Inductees of the Country Music Hall of Fame

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Hugh Critz

Hugh Critz (December 21, 1876 – 1939) was the president of the Mississippi Agricultural and Mechanical College from 1930–1934. It was during his tenure that the Mississippi Legislature renamed the school Mississippi State University. Prior to that he had served as president of Arkansas Tech University.

Honors
Critz Hall at Mississippi State is named in his honor.

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Luigi Lucheni

Luigi Lucheni (22 April 1873 – 19 October 1910) was an Italian anarchist and the assassin of Empress Elisabeth of Austria.

Early life
Luigi Lucheni was born Louis Luccheni in Paris on April 22, 1873. His father, unknown, and his mother, Luigia Lucchini, left the baby to a foundling hospital. The child was moved to Italy in August 1874 and transferred between orphanages and foster families. Lucheni worked odd jobs in Italy, Switzerland, and Austria-Hungary. He served in the military for three years and moved to Switzerland, where he befriended anarchists in Lausanne.

Assassination
On September 10, 1898, Lucheni used a tapered file to fatally stab Empress Elisabeth of Austria during her visit to Geneva. Elisabeth and her lady-in-waiting Countess Sztáray had departed their hotel on Lake Geneva to ride a paddle steamer to Montreux. They walked without their attendants, as Elisabeth disdained royal processions. On the docks in the early afternoon, Lucheni approached and stabbed Elisabeth below her left breast with a wooden-handled, four-inch file, the kind used to file the eyes of industrial needles. Badly wounded, she nevertheless continued walking, with the support of two other people, 100 yards to board the departing steamer. The steamer returned to shore after Countess Sztáray first noticed Elisabeth's bleeding, whereupon the Empress was carried back to the hotel on a makeshift stretcher. Two doctors pronounced her dead within an hour of the attack. Documentation of the autopsy was destroyed.

Lucheni was apprehended upon fleeing the scene and his file was found the next day. He told the authorities that he was an anarchist who came to Geneva with the intention of killing any sovereign as an example for others. Lucheni used the file because he did not have enough money for a stiletto.

His trial began the next month, in October. He was furious to find that capital punishment had been abolished in Geneva, and wrote a letter demanding that he be tried in another canton, such that he could be martyred. He received the sentence of life imprisonment instead.

Death and legacy

Lucheni wrote his childhood memoirs while in Geneva's Évêché prison. He was harassed in prison and his notebooks were stolen. He was found hanged in his cell on October 19, 1910. His head was preserved in formaldehyde and transferred to Vienna in 1986. The head was on display in Vienna's Narrenturm until 2000 when the remains were interred at the Wiener Zentralfriedhof.

The assassination began an international conference at which delegates from 21 nations defined anarchism as terrorism and resolved to begin agencies to surveil suspected anarchists and permit capital punishment for assassination of sovereigns. Elisabeth's life and subsequent murder are depicted in many stage productions, films and novels. Lucheni's childhood memoirs were published in 1998.

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