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Ain't It Cool News
Hi, you removed my changes in the Ain't It Cool News article. I'd appreciate it if you could add your reasons to the talk section of that page, or perhaps draft a different version of the factual information I put up there. It's not my goal to smear Harry; just to address some of reasons the site has been so controversial. Thanks! --Misterwindupbird 23:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Spamalot
66.167.138.29 08:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC): I re-wikified the names of significant cast and crew members (e.g. Tim Hatley, Hugh Vanstone, Casey Nicholaw, Larry Hochman) on Spamalot; remember, such links encourage people to contribute and helps identify Most wanted articles. Please don't remove them again. Thanks.

Nevada-tan red room video
I agree with you on the screamer bit vice just a plain horror, but but the type of video is still called a shock flash. Perhaps you might want to add the link to it, as it's mentioned earlier in the article but probably would be useful to be brought up again.--Mitsukai 28 June 2005 12:48 (UTC)

RFA
You might want to consider redoing you answers to the three standard questions. You have my support.Gator (talk) 17:43, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Fetch quest
I'm probably gonna put the collaboration of the week at Quest (gaming) and throughout the week merge the other articles there. I just wanted to say cause you nominated fetch quest. Thunderbrand 00:47, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

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Filmographies
There is no style guide for order. There is an inactive page which has no consensus. Zzzzz changed said page to suit his argument and use it authoritatively and delisted articles based on that. I am reverting what I think is bad faith editting on his part. Now you revert my revert and call it vandalism. You need to reevaluate what you call vandalism. 12:59, 6 April 2006 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cburnett (talk • contribs)

I'm having a little difficulty following your motivation here. Cburnett has reverted the article to its original appearance (that is, immediately prior to the change demanded by User:Zzzzz) while the business of antiquated v. current style guides is discussed. What do you find childish about this, especially when compared to your insistence that you must see the oldest-to-newest-ordered version? Radio Kirk   talk to me  13:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Edit: I reiterate, it is not uncommon in my experience to revert an article to its appearance prior to the issue that created a debate. More than once, you have chided another editor for "childishness" as a result; if you're incapable of assuming good faith, I would be more than happy to request administrator assistance. Radio Kirk   talk to me  13:25, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry i didnt realize i was changing your edits. I assumed it was the work of another user "cb" who has been throwing "bad faith" accusations around in edit summaries, shouting and screaming with CAPITAL LETTERS etc. After already cleaning up his mess once, discussing it on his talk page, and starting another cleanup operation i discovered he had removed several hours of my painstaking work. Understandably I didn't really appreciate it, hence the "childishness" remarks in the edit summary which were not aimed at you. Anyway everything seems ok right now so alls well that ends well. rgs, Niz 17:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for the response. When I saw the reverts at Lindsay Lohan, Karen Dotrice and several other pages changed by or at the direction of User:Zzzzz, I was completely lost. When you made additional edits after my first comment above, I wondered whether I was being ignored for some reason. I now know that's not the case. Thanks again. :)
 * Edit: I have gone ahead and reverted Lindsay Lohan and Karen Dotrice. As I note in the latter's edit summary, the reversion seems correct because the change would never have been made had that user not referenced an antiquated, no-longer-used style guide. If you have any further input, please, feel free to pass it along. :) Radio  Kirk   talk to me  18:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

What the?....
Hello, please explain why Edward thingo of England is still an FA, after two declarations to remove. Tony 10:52, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Edward thingo
OK, I'm listing it for major review now. Tony 13:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

GA template
What are you guys up to? I try to recognize users for good work and you trounce on it in minutes with no discussion or voting? There are a lot of people that want this and for you to kill it in minutes in this manner is wrong. I did not know of prior debates when I made it but GA is a firmly established concept now and there is nothing wrong with recognizing editors for trying to do more than write trashy stubs. And you ask me to remove a template and then do it yourself? Rlevse 11:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for removing the hangon template - I forgot to remove it after posting my explanation. -- GW_Simulations |User Page 12:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

 * You should have allowed for a full discussion before ratting to Niz to delete it. ANd you wonder why users get upset at the deletionists. Rlevse 12:31, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

What is a featured article?
Niz, if you want to revert to the pre-dispute version until it's sorted out, could you please go back to before Tony added it the day before yesterday? That is what sparked the dispute. SlimVirgin (talk) 13:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

 * the usual way of handling it is by discussing on the talkpage of the article in question (this was the precedent of the Andyz/Suggestions page). Niz 13:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Niz, you said the usual thing to do was to revert to the version before the dispute. But you didn't do that. You have reverted to the version that sparked the dispute. SlimVirgin (talk) 13:55, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Unfinished work FAC
Discussion is vastly superior to reversion, and a lot more polite. Please don't just undo what someone does like that. I have relisted it and gave a reason - if you dispute that then put a message on a relevant talk page. violet/riga (t) 15:36, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * You don't do "communication" do you? Sorry, but your actions are simply offensive.  violet/riga (t) 17:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:Casperhead

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. -Husnock 23:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Brian Fitzpatrick (Canadian politician)

Brian Fitzpatrick (born November 18, 1945, in Assiniboia, Saskatchewan) is a Canadian politician.

After serving as a board of education trustee in Nipawin, Saskatchewan, Fitzpatrick ran in the 2000 Canadian federal election for the Canadian Alliance. He was elected to the House of Commons of Canada, and, after the Canadian Alliance merged into the Conservative Party of Canada, he ran again and won. In both elections, he ran in the riding of Prince Albert. Fitzpatrick also ran in the 1993 Canadian federal election for the Reform Party of Canada in the riding of Mackenzie but he lost. He is a lawyer and the former opposition critic of Litigation, Rural Development, Regional Development and New and Emerging Markets. He was one of the founding members of the Saskatchewan Party and was its first director of policy development and chaired the founding convention for the party. In 2006, Brian Fitzpatrick sponsored the Act to Amend Income Tax, and on June 22, 2007, the bill was passed.

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General Stud Book

The General Stud Book is a breed registry for horses in Great Britain and Ireland. More specifically it is used to document the breeding of Thoroughbreds and related foundation bloodstock such as the Arabian horse. Today it is published every four years by Weatherbys. Volume 48 was published in 2017

In 1791, James Weatherby published Introduction to a General Stud Book, which was an attempt to collect pedigrees for the horses racing then and that had raced in the past. It was filled with errors and was not at all complete, but it was popular and led in 1793 to the first volume of the General Stud Book which had many more pedigrees and was more accurate. Volume one was revised many times, the most important being in 1803, 1808, 1827, 1859 and 1891.

The General Stud Book has been owned by Weatherbys ever since; the two horse racing authorities that cover the United Kingdom, the British Horseracing Authority in Great Britain (historically the Jockey Club) and Horse Racing Ireland for all of the island of Ireland, including Northern Ireland, do not maintain the registry. This differs from the American Stud Book which is owned by the United States Jockey Club.

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Butch Miller

Butch Miller may refer to:

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Talk:VG Cats

Name of Strips
I think we need the names no. and links to the number of comics Scott has made.24.80.36.89 (talk) 15:06, 22 March 2009 (UTC) -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.36.89 (talk) 05:03, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

VG Kitties
I can't even find any of the VG Kitties comics still hosted on the site. I'm removing the section. In the event they are still hosted, I don't think it deserves a section in the article, because from what I remember it was only a few comics long. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.186.182.39 (talk) 04:47, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Addendum: The comics are still hosted on the site, but they're not linked anywhere in the archives nor do they exist in the "Misc Comics" section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.186.182.39 (talk) 04:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Once something is notable, 76.186, it is always notable. WhisperToMe (talk) 11:29, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Dead?
Has VG Cats died? The link doesnt work, as if they sold their domain name, and theres no other way to get to them, dead?

Yeah, link won't work for me either. They must have sold the domain or something...

What the heck happened? I think someone may have hacked it, cause I tried registering on their forums, and it said registration was disabled. I hope nothing gets deleted or anything.68.76.157.233 17:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)PMXe54
 * Oh, it's back!
 * Actually, it's back to being the stupid domain name page.

Hmm, VG Cats seems to work for me..... Mack-the-random (talk) 18:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Infobox
The prototype infobox I put together features VG Cats. What do you think? CyberSkull 08:33, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC)

 * I like the info box.--ZeWrestler 12:38, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Jack Thompson
I believe someone should add something on the argument between VGCats and Jack Thompson.

 * Nah. Else we'd have to put up something every time PA or anybody else got legal threats (which is, what, weekly?). Nifboy 00:36, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Might be worth mentioning simply for humor value; that, and it might end up as a long-term joke in the community, given that so far two of the big four PA-like comics have already mentioned it.

 * Already mentioned in the Jack Thompson article. -Drmike 22:18, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

 * It should not be mentioned in VG Cats, but rather in Scott Ramsoomair's article. ~ Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l ✎☠ 09:05, 2005 August 11 (UTC)

Pictures
Is it me..

Or should we try and add some more pictures into this page.

I mean a picture of the main characters would be nice to show. -MGL

nah, good enough as it is. I mean, they only appear in the webcomics, and putting an entire comic into the article? There are avatars, but those wouldn't "fit in". I don't know, maybe someone will do it. EAB 11:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Fan Pics
Should not be included, especially if graphic like that.

For comparison, go to other articles with large fanart sections or even to the page on hentai.

About that "citation needed" template...
Concerning the sentence, "The majority of this fan art can be found at a forum which has gained recognition for its collection." in the "Fan art" section, the fact template was added not to dispute the existence of the forum, but the claim it has gained recognition. Do not remove the fact unless you can provide a source backing up the claim. Please be aware that unless they are very high profile, forum posts and blogs do not meet Wikipedia's standards as sources. –Abe Dashiell (t/c) 15:37, 10 May 2006 (UTC) --72.181.181.118 (talk) 01:37, 20 March 2011 (UTC)leo or die lolz

Cleanup
I trimmed down the 'Characters' section, and removed the 'Fan Art' section. - Kalarchis 01:18, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The 'Characters' section was just overflowing with fancruft and speculation, so I trimmed it down again. Also, I removed the section on Major Payne, as I don't think he's important enough to warrant a note. - Kalarchis 06:38, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Fixed a couple of bits of speculation in the 'Characters' section, Leo and Aeris are named after Scott's cats, as I believe he has said on numerous occasions, and is also stated on the site. Also removed the sentence pertaining to doctor hobo making a reappearance in a heaven-like place, as that was a guest strip and not canon. Oh, and Aeris doesn't live with Leo, as mentioned in 'Start the Reactor'. - ExterminatusNine 15:43, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I was going to make the 'living together' edit he mentioned above but he beat me to it when I mentioned it to him. I snipped out the first of two mentions that each of Leo and Aeris' bios that they were named after the author's cats. - Raven The Hedgena 12:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Picture licensing
You guys have some problems with your pictures. First, the one of Link in the infobox is liable to be deleted anytime, as it's "with-permission", a long-since deprecated license. The other pictures don't suffer from that problem, but between you and me, I'd imagine that most people would be deeply skeptical of screenshots from popular webcomics which purport to be public-domain/all-rights-released with no shred of evidence to support that. --maru  (talk)  contribs 22:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The infobox picture is grandfathered, but, yeah, the license on the other images looks bogus to me. –Abe Dashiell (t/c) 23:12, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The main picture used was uploaded before the policy change went into effect and according to the template is exempt from the deletion, at least that is how I read it. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 17:42, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

STOP DELETING THIS THEORY DAMMIT
People keep erasing the "there is evidence that aeris may have had a crush on leo in high school". And there IS EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE THEORY. IT'S A THEORY THAT MANY SEE AS TRUE, AND BECAUSE YOU SEE IT AS FALSE DOESN'T MEAN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN! IT COULD HAVE! LEAVE IT ALONE NOW! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.83.199.177 (talk • contribs) 11:36, September 4, 2006
 * How about no? Raven The Hedgena 3:32 PM, September 05 2006 (UTC)

 * look, I'm sorry, I'm a little annoyed. theories are accepted on wikipedia. some theories have their own article. for example, look at the THEORY of evolution. anyway, sorry about my screaming earlier, but I'm mad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.33.176.24 (talk • contribs) 15:14, September 5, 2006
 * Theories are accepted if they are published in reliable sources. I don't recall anyone worthwhile writing about the possibility of romance in VG Cats. Nifboy 00:23, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Your use of capital letters has convinced me of your point. What an excellent strategy for online discussions/debates!  I'm astonished that more people don't do that......
 * And even if she did have a crush on him in high school, so what? Those feelings are obviously dead now, and that last thing that anyone wants is for a LeoXAeris relationship to start.  Plus, the strip isn't canonical in the least bit, so trying to establish a relationship from one comic to the next is fairly pointless. RPH 01:13, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

 * If Ramsoomair says anything about it (forum, interview, drunken ramblings) I'll accept it (and probably add it myself). A crush is only one way of interpreting her blushing at the end of the strip. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 01:02, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, tis only one one of the waus to interpret it, but it is still a theory. Maybe we could compromise and put it with "however, that is only onoe way to interpert it."

Deal?-lopolo42

"the last thing that anyone wants is for a LeoXAeris relationship to start."

Speak for yourself. There are a surprising amount of people out there who want it to happen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.218.197 (talk • contribs) 18:28, October 3, 2006

the theory is (sort of) supported from this strip. the blushing can mean she likes him but again it's all ambiguous. (tyger 20:19, 5 November 2006 (UTC))

 * Not to mention that it was a one-off strip in a comic that has very little continuity.--Agent Aquamarine 02:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Theories are accepted if they are published in reliable sources. I don't recall anyone worthwhile writing about the possibility of romance in VG Cats. Nifboy
 * Um...yeah. his name is Sinder and he's pretty community-famous with his erotic story, World 1-1 of Aeris and Leo. Just a note, doesn't affect the argument either way. ~  PH  DrillSergeant ... §  07:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Unless Sinder writes an article for the New York Times or the USA Today discussing it, then no. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:20, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

It was restored again. I changed it to "appears to have a small crush on Leo since school". Seriously, I read teh strip and I can only interpret the blushing as the start of a crush. I mean, what other reason could there be for her to blush on those pannels? Anyone can expplain an alternative reason that make sense? --Enric Naval (talk) 07:14, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Original research. Removed. JuJube (talk) 08:15, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

 * 1 thing, if Aeris doesnt like Leo to the point of abortion from time, why after, she is still Leo's friend

I do not want a LeoxAeris Relationship, im being objective --Rocket50 (talk) 15:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Art Style section needs rewrite
Or possibly delete. It's POV, inappropriately toned and steaming with fan theories and unverifiable information. ~ Oni Lukos ct 23:25, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it just needs a rewrite, I don't want it deleted, he has a nice art style.--Signor 16:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

G'day, I just tried to clean the Art Style section up as best I could. It's not very good, but I hope it helps. :) Martin Kingsley 14:18, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

200th Comic
Just a spot but ive noticed that Scott has seemingly skipped the 200th comic. Should this fact be put down or should it be put down as an in-joke?
 * He's still working on it. I can't verify this, but I d believe he has said it at one point in time. Raven The Hedgena 11:30, 10 October 2006
 * It's been many months since the last mention, I do believe. But he didn't skip it as a joke, more as a thing he was going to put more work into and...didn't. ~ Oni Lukos ct 23:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

 * It says "TBA 2009" in the archive.

Update art
A lot of the pics on this site use Scott's original art style and look nothing like his newer works. Any chance that thepage could be updated with more recent shots? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.174.57 (talk • contribs) 21:22, October 22, 2006
 * I don't see why not. I thought it looked dated myself considering the more recent strips look so drastically different from the beginnings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.170.162.229 (talk • contribs) 10:45, October 27, 2006
 * I don't think we really need to replace the graphics we have, given that all Ramsoomair has really done is refine his technique as opposed to his style. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I went and updated Leo and Aeris because their pictures were so old as to be barely recognizable. The others have not changed significantly enough to need an update.Rebochan 01:56, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Page Parked
The VGCats homepage is currently parked and/or snapped up by ad people. Maybe we should add this? Is the comic now defunct? 143.195.110.25 15:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It looks like the domain was hijacked by the registrar, perhaps because it expired and Scott didn't renew it. 71.39.6.137 17:14, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I had a domain I oversee parked like this once by a registrar whose wonderful customer service kept throwing roadblocks in my way to impede me from switching service to a better registrar. I hope that Scott isn't having to deal with an unscrupulous registrar like I had to (it's not the same one, but the parking page looks very familiar...).  I'd say a quick note about a registrar-placed parking page should be enough.  It looks like that, by the whois info, that he still has the domain, but I also see it is listed as having an "Expiration date: 20 Dec 2006 20:13:3"  --Reverend Loki 18:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Looks like it's all moot... the comic page is back, WHOIS shows expiry of 20 Dec 2007 now. --Reverend Loki 20:09, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * When I whois'd the domain it showed the 2007 expiry, but it was still parked and showing advertisements and such. Maybe they were just taking their merry sweet time giving it back to him. It does indeed appear back now, though. Whew! 71.39.6.137 04:15, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I see nothing in Firefox at all. BUT, it could be that the DNS server didn't update here yet.  Amp e rsand2006 ( & ) 13:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Major Payne
How come you haven't put in major payne? Trunksamurai 00:35, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

He's not a main character is he?--Honeymane Heghlu meH QaQ jajvam 01:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

No, none of them are "main" characters. They're just characters Trunksamurai 22:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Major Payne has been in the comic roughly three times, while the ones listed here reoccur more regularly. He used to be on the page, but was removed by User:Kalarchis back in July, probably because of this fact and/or because there is no picture for the character. --  Sarrandúin  [ Talk +  Contribs  ] 21:59, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

There's a picture right here http://www.vgcats.com/new/cast.gif Trunksamurai 16:11, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Criticism section?
Since there is a decent amount of criticism over, for instance, the unnecessary (IMO) number of panels and referencing outdated games, I was curious if anyone was interested in developing such a section. - A Link to the Past (talk) 01:49, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I haven't heard such criticism. Would this be from people on the forums or would this be in the main gaming press? Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 01:51, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, it'd be pretty strange for main gaming press to comment on it. It is on forums, and there's been a tradition of modifying the comics to "see if they can make it funny" or if they can shorten it. But I wouldn't be surprised if there were smaller gaming media web sites commenting on it or other web comics. - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * And no, I am not suggesting we make a section right away - I want to find good sources to create such an article. Forum hatred just legitimizes researching more reliable hatred. - A Link to the Past (talk) 04:46, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The gaming press has commented on the strip, but none of them has run a critique (or even a review as far as I know). They will most likely do so when the book comes out. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 01:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Theres no signifigant critisism outside forums and chat circles, most of them by fanboys of other comics, or trolls. vgcatssucks182 isnt exactly a good source, now is he? I dont see any problem with there being to many panels or referencing old games.~sdhonda
 * A web comic should be topical. For instance, there was a comic of EBA several months after its release - VG Cats, from my experience, rarely releases a comic about a game around its release. Also, I do not see why you would not have a problem with "too" many panels - "too" many panels means that it's not good. If it was good, it'd be "the just right amount of" panels. - A Link to the Past (talk) 04:53, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * According to whom? Wikipedia is not interested in stating whether or not things suck. If you have a notable critical response to it, add it to the article. 24.16.95.168 (talk) 23:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Scott probably can't get his hands on the new games as soon as the mags. That'd explain everything.

- Here's some criticism of VGCats. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.238.161.86 (talk) 03:05, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Potatamoto?
Should Potatamoto (joke on Miyamoto) be in the minor characters section? He's been in a good 3-4 comics right? He's been in the comic as much as Payne has, and he's in the minor characters section. 82.198.28.230 11:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)Some Noob

Sadist
Should the "sadist" link in Aeris's bio link to the S&M page? Surely that should link to Sadistic personality disorder instead. --71.88.48.116 15:05, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Ya that's a better idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.245.80.71 (talk)

Citation needed!
I need a citation as to whether Aeris is a love interest for Leo. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gp75motorsports (talk • contribs)
 * No. - ∅  ( ∅ ), 17:27, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Whew. Thanks. I put that up there seeing as Aeris and Leo almost always appear together.

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furry?
Why is this under furry? The artist has expressed on numerous occassions that when he created the comic, he didn't know what furries were and that now he hates furs. So, unless there's something in here about his dislike of the furry community trying to coopt his comic, I think it should be dropped altogether 209.136.161.135 (talk) 22:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

 * I agree why is this in wikiproject furry? It doesn't belong there. --67.160.118.193 (talk) 19:29, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Thirded, I've never been insulted by Wikipedia before, and now it just goes ahead and slaps me with that slur? Your words cut me, Wikigods. 70.71.69.224 (talk) 06:55, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Citation for the author's comment about his comic being regarded as furry: http://www.vgcats.com/faq/index.php#furry Zell65 (talk) 07:22, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

 * You asked for it. No longer a part of WP:FURRY. You know we love you anyway, right? GreenReaper (talk) 02:33, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

"Trim the fancruft"
So the article says "Trim the fancruft" - Any hints on what that would be? WhisperToMe (talk) 16:17, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

That would be your typical Wikipedian elitism. They basically mean that since they don't care about the fans of the comic, no one else should have any indication about its fanbase. 70.71.69.224 (talk) 06:54, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia isn't supposed to be a fansite, though. It is supposed to focus less on plot and more on creation/conception and receptiopn. Plot sections are okay, but they should not be overly detailed. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:21, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Merchandising section
 How are primary sources not acceptable for this? I'm not saying secondary sources shouldn't be found - but there are times when it is okay to use primary sources. What does it mean to not need a merchandising section when The Simpsons et al can have merchandising documented? I don't see a problem with explaining the history of VGCats merchandise and how the suppliers changed. Also labeling the links as "spam" is too much - those links are meant to be sources and evidence. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * (1) Merchandising is completely unnecessary, it's not of any importance, merchandising is a normal and expected part of anything in popular culture. (2) Drawing a section entirely from primary sources is original research, if it's not discussed in reliable secondary sources then it's obviously not that important. (3) The links to the merchandising sites are spam. Apart form that, and the fact that it's trivial, no other problems that spring immediately to mind. Guy (Help!) 20:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * According to the No original research policy it is acceptable to use primary resources IF:
 * "only make descriptive claims about the information found in the primary source, the accuracy and applicability of which is easily verifiable by any reasonable, educated person without specialist knowledge, and"
 * "make no analytic, synthetic, interpretive, explanatory, or evaluative claims about the information found in the primary source."
 * If you have only primary resources and both of these conditions are met, it is not original research.
 * Whether something is "Spam" or not "Spam" has to do with intentions. Spam generally describes spam as a method of trying to promote a product.
 * Regarding merchandise, it is true that many fictional series have merchandising. Since I was using the links as a source, wouldn't this apply:
 * "If you have a source to contribute, first contribute some facts that you learned from that source, then cite the source. Don't simply direct readers to another site for the useful facts; add useful facts to the article, then cite the site where you found them. You're here to improve Wikipedia—not just to funnel readers off Wikipedia and onto some other site, right? (If not, see #1 above.)"
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 21:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Images
Someone has suggested that too many non-free images are used in the article. I agree. Should we trim the major characters to Leo, Aeris, Krug and Pantsman? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 09:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I saw someone trying to use an external image that shows several cast members. I have uploaded it on Image:VG_cats_cast.gif and added it. Shall we leave this image and remove the smaller ones? --Enric Naval (talk) 01:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Funny how it works better that way! But i agree: remove the excessive non-free images and reorganise the info to follow the character order in the picture. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 02:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna wait a pair of days in case someone find an alternative solution, and then I'll remove all the character images except the cast image. (actually, I was about to make a collage of images like that cast image, and like the image on the infobox on French people) --Enric Naval (talk) 03:34, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Please do not do that. A montage you create yourself out of 'n' images will be considered equal to 'n' non-free image uses and will be against non-free content criteria.  I'm not sure if the one taken from the VGCats site is the best image, but as Scott R. put it there himself, then it is only one non-free image.  The one on French People is created from free images, so the resulting image is free, but that can't happen here. --M ASEM  03:50, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok, I hadn't thought of the copyright problems. --Enric Naval (talk) 04:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Characters section
I noticed that Image:VG_cats_cast.gif is completely surrounded by Aeris' section. Could someone move it slightly so it isn't like that? Also, I think Leo's section needs to be expanded. It's really small compared to Aeris'. Hawkfrost18 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:03, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Sources needed?
Joystiq has a whole lot of articles that mention VG Cats. On a first glance through most look to be fairly short, but somebody else might be able to find something of more substance in there.

Oh, and here's an interview with Scott from CBSNews.com. 76.105.246.26 (talk) 09:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I found some stuff from Kotaku, too. 76.105.246.26 (talk) 20:54, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone add them for crying out loud. This article has 400,000 primary sources and only 3 secondary ones. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 23:47, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I went throught them and added a few things. --Enric Naval (talk) 02:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

updating the last update
Do we really need on the article "the strip hasn't been updated since November 15" and "the strip hasn't been on a month now"? (btw, the correct link was WP:NOT)

See the proposed guideline Recentism. We should focus on the "timeless facets" of the strip, like how often he delays and how much, or times when he failed to update for relevant reasons (like serious illness or legal problems related to the strip itself). We should not focus on trivial things like how long it has taken since the last strip because he's late as usual. --Enric Naval (talk) 18:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

?
"As of 2008, the first half of one episode, "Episode 1: A Tale of Two Kitties", has been produced. The first episode was released on January 21, 2006"86.46.196.195 (talk) 22:27, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

 * I tried to clarify it a bit --Enric Naval (talk) 02:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Aegis??? WTF
Aegis likes yoai? please re-evaluate this statement.... Are you sure that the last screen with Aegis sleeping is revelent to the yoai Strip???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.36.89 (talk) 02:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

 * She's obviously enjoying that yaoi dream. Can someone find the strip where Aeris writes a yaoi history? --Enric Naval (talk) 06:09, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

 * http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=126
 * Yep i got it! Strange, first time a cat that writes yaoi I have ever seen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.36.89 (talk) 05:07, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Added. --Enric Naval (talk) 07:41, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Trimming the list of Characters
Perhaps it's about time to take down alot of the minor characters and some of the "major" ones. Scotts Avatar, and, of course, the cats should be the only characters worth mentioning in the article.

Try and look at this from the point of view of someone casually reading this article - do they want to know about every character that has appeared briefly in 3/4 strips?

Super effective?
Should we give it a section or an article or does it not derseve one? RTY1998 (talk) 18:26, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Not notable. Rarely, if ever, updated. Gpia7r (talk) 20:08, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Super Effective should redirect to VG Cats. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Then should we write a tiny bit about it at the bottom of this page or just leave it? It was updated today.RTY1998 (talk) 12:40, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Webcomic award
There are probably many more too.Blake (Talk·Edits) 00:45, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

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SoX

Sound eXchange (SoX) is a cross-platform audio editing software. It has a command-line interface, and is written in standard C. It is free software, licensed under GPL-2.0-or-later, with libsox licensed under LGPL-2.1-or-later, and distributed by Chris Bagwell through SourceForge.

History
SoX was created in July 1991 by Lance Norskog and posted to the Usenet group alt.sources as Aural eXchange: Sound sample translator. With the second release (in November the same year) it was renamed Sound Exchange. Norskog continued to maintain and release SoX via Usenet, File Transfer Protocol (FTP), and then the web until early 1995, at which time SoX was at version 11 (gamma). In May 1996, Chris Bagwell started to maintain and release updated versions of SoX, starting with version sox-11gamma-cb. In September 2000, Bagwell registered the project at SourceForge with project name "sox". The registration was announced on 4 September 2000 and SoX 12.17 was released on 7 September 2000.

Throughout its history SoX has had many contributing authors; Guido van Rossum, best known as creator of the programming language Python, was a significant contributor in SoX's early days.

Features
Some of SoX's features are:
 * Cross-platform (Windows, Linux, Solaris, OS X, et al.)
 * Reading and writing Au, WAV, AIFF, MP3 (via an external LAME MP3 encoder), Ogg Vorbis, FLAC and other audio file formats
 * Recording and playing audio (on many systems); playing via URL (internet file or stream)
 * Editing via concatenate, trim, pad, repeat, reverse, volume, fade, splice, normalise
 * Processing via chorus, flanger, echo, phaser, compressor, delay, filter (high-pass, low-pass, shelving, etc.)
 * Adjustment of speed (pitch and tempo), pitch (without tempo), tempo (without pitch), and sample rate
 * Noise removal using frequency profiling, implemented since December 2004
 * Silent passage removal, implemented since September 2001
 * Simple audio synthesis
 * Multi-file & multi-track mixing
 * Multi-file merging (e.g., 2 mono to 1 stereo)
 * Statistical analysis; spectrogram analysis

Examples
SoX being used to process some audio:

$ sox track1.wav track1-processed.flac remix - norm -3 highpass 22 gain -3 rate 48k norm -3 dither

Input File    : 'track1.wav' Channels      : 2 Sample Rate   : 44100 Precision     : 16-bit Duration      : 00:02:54.97 = 7716324 samples = 13123 CDDA sectors Sample Encoding: 16-bit Signed Integer PCM Endian Type   : little

Output File   : 'track1-processed.flac' Channels      : 1 Sample Rate   : 48000 Precision     : 16-bit Duration      : 00:02:54.97 = 8398720 samples ~ 13123 CDDA sectors Sample Encoding: 16-bit FLAC

sox: effects chain: input     44100Hz 2 channels 16 bits (multi) sox: effects chain: remix     44100Hz 2 channels 16 bits (multi) sox: effects chain: norm      44100Hz 1 channels 16 bits sox: effects chain: highpass  44100Hz 1 channels 16 bits sox: effects chain: gain      44100Hz 1 channels 16 bits (multi) sox: effects chain: rate      44100Hz 1 channels 16 bits sox: effects chain: norm      48000Hz 1 channels 16 bits sox: effects chain: dither    48000Hz 1 channels 16 bits (multi) sox: effects chain: output    48000Hz 1 channels 16 bits (multi)

Playing some audio files:

$ play *.ogg

01 - Summer's Cauldron.ogg:

Encoding: Vorbis Channels: 2 @ 16-bit  Track: 01 of 15 Samplerate: 44100Hz     Album: Skylarking Album gain: -7.8dB     Artist: XTC Duration: 00:03:19.99 Title: Summer's Cauldron

In:20.8% 00:00:41.61 [00:02:38.38] Out:1.84M [ ====|====  ]        Clip:0

Vulnerabilities
SoX has had several vulnerabilities listed in the National Vulnerability Database since its last public release in 2015. These vulnerabilities include stack and heap overflows and denial-of-service attacks.

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On the Strength of All Convinced

On the Strength of All Convinced is Daphne Loves Derby's first physically released studio album. The album, released on July 26, 2005, is almost entirely original material except for Middle Middle, which was previously released on Purevolume.

Track listing

 * 1) "Sundays" – 3:48
 * 2) "Hammers and Hearts" – 2:55
 * 3) "A Year on an Airplane" – 3:19
 * 4) "Birthday Gallery" – 3:28
 * 5) "You Versus the Sea" – 3:00
 * 6) "Kirby" – 3:30
 * 7) "Middle Middle" – 3:36
 * 8) "Pollen and Salt" – 4:28
 * 9) "If You're Lucky, No One Will Get Hurt" – 2:26
 * 10) "Debussie" – 2:30
 * 11) "What We Have Been Waiting For" – 8:15

Note: "What We Have Been Waiting For" contains a 3:15 hidden track, entitled "Dirt Doesn't Travel."

Band members

 * Kenny Choi - Guitar, keyboard, percussion, lead vocals
 * Jason Call - Bass, keyboard, percussion, vocals
 * Stu Clay - Drums, percussion

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User:FLOPS

floating point operations per second

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Cassandreia

Cassandreia, Cassandrea, or Kassandreia (Κασσάνδρεια, Kassándreia) was once one of the most important cities in Ancient Macedonia, founded by and named after Cassander in 316 BC. It was located on the site of the earlier Ancient Greek city of Potidaea, at the isthmus of the Pallene peninsula. The fact that Cassander named it after himself suggests that he may have intended it to be his capital, and if the canal which cuts the peninsula at this point was dug or at least planned in his time, he may have intended to develop his naval forces using it as a base with a harbour on each of the east and west sides. Cassandreia soon became a great and powerful city, surpassing the other Macedonian towns in wealth. Philip V of Macedon made Cassandreia his main naval base. At the end of the Roman Republic, around 43 BC by order of Brutus a Roman colony was settled by the proconsul Q. Hortensius Hortalus, which in 30 BC was resettled by August with the installation of new settlers and took the official name Colonia Iulia Augusta Cassandrensis. The territory of the colony had included within its boundaries the peninsula of Pallini and the district stretched north of the canal to the foot of the mountain Cholomontas. The colony enjoyed ius Italicum, and is mentioned in Pliny the Elder's encyclopaedia and in inscriptions. It was destroyed by the Huns and Slavs around 540 AD.

The modern settlement of Kassandreia (named Valta before 1955) lies to the south of the ancient site. The ancient site of Cassandreia, near the town Nea Poteidaia, has not been excavated.

The Christian diocese based on the ancient town is mentioned in the early 10th-century Notitiae Episcopatuum of Byzantine Emperor Leo VI the Wise. Its bishop Hermogenes participated in both the Robber Council of Ephesus in 449 and the Council of Chalcedon in 451. In addition to the ancient Greek Orthodox metropolis (el), Cassandria is also listed today by the Catholic Church as a titular see.

Notable people

 * Aristobulus (4th century BC), historian
 * Poseidippus (3rd century BC), comic poet

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Talk:Polish European Constitution referendum

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Only some of Polish politicians are against the constitution (mostly from right wing parties). Opinion pools are in favor of Constitution.

Polish source:

http://ue.wp.pl/kat,1520,katn,,wid,7092799,widn,Spada%20poparcie%20dla%20konstytucji%20UE,wiadomosc.html

Results:

YES: 56%

Polish people are choosing YES because:
 * 47% they are supporting for Polish membership in EU
 * 23% they are afraid that NO can cause negative consequences for Poland
 * 12% they think that the treaty can improve functioning of EU,
 * 15% they think that the constitution give Poland advantages in EU

NO:15%

Polish people are choosing NO because:
 * 44% they think that the constitution give Poland disadvantages in EU
 * 25% they think that the constitution is without strong link to traditional Christian values (Good, traditional, family,...)
 * 14% they aren't content with Polish membership in EU
 * 13% they don't accept proposed model of European integration.

UNDECIDED: 29%

Only 13% of Poles think, that they have enough knowledge about treaty to made proper decision during referendum, 78% think, that their knowledge isn't enough.

Economy in Poland is growing and thousands of Polish workers can find new jobs in old EU members. In many town money from EU is used to improve infrastructure. The majority (77%) of Poles are content with European integration.

Pools are made at 1-2, 9-10 of April 2005. The number of asked people was 1100.

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Talk:Kansas City, Memphis and Birmingham Railroad

Pertinent dates
From the "family tree" of SLSF at the museum in Amory, Mississippi: Kansas City, Memphis & Birmingham Railroad Company consolidated in Tennessee, Mississippi, and Alabama on 1887-02-01; sold to SLSF on 1928-09-01.


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User:Johntex/Proposal

Article Move / Merge Proposal
I propose:

(1) We create a new article titled Houston METRORail Memorandum Controversy

(2) We move the content from Houston_Chronicle to that page and leave only a sentence or two there to point to the new main article. This is advantageous because:
 * (2.1) The overall Houston Chronicle article is unbalanced because there is more information about a few controversies concerning the paper than the paper itself - however, the paper is not famous for these controversies so this is misleading.
 * (2.2) This controversy is largely or completely a thing of the past and to keep it occupying such a prominent position on the main article of an ongoing business concern is particularly unencyclopedic.

(3) We move the content from Texans for Public Transportation to Houston METRORail Memorandum Controversy and delete Texans for Public Transportation. I believe Texans for Public Transportation is not sufficiently notable to merit an article here because:
 * (3.1) The group was a single purpose organization, organized for a particular purpose in 2003
 * (3.2) They have not had a wide impact nor achieved sufficient notability to merit their own article, as evidenced in part by the low number of hits found by searching for "Texans for Public Transportation" on Google (0), Altavista (4 - including 1 at Wikipedia). I know Rangerdude does not like Google counts, but it is completely reasonable to conclude that a PAC in this Internet-driven era that gets only 4 hits did not achieve much impact.
 * (3.3) Due to their small impact, there is little we can say about them. What we can say about them is really relevant to one specific controversy concerning METRORail
 * (3.4) They do not have any presence today so they are not likely to get more interesting in the future.

(4) We move the content from Texans for True Mobility and delete Texans for True Mobility. My reasoning is similar to Texans for Public Transportation. Although Texans for True Mobility does have an active web page, and is slightly better known (237 hits on Google, 264 on Altavista), that is still a paltry number of hits for an organization striving to make an impact on events in one of the America's largest cities. There does not seem to be anything that needs to be said about them that cannot be covered in the new article I am proposing.

I look forward to your feedback. Thank you. Johntex 23:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I am of the belief that for the time being we should work out the remaining issues on the Houston Chronicle page before merging any article or moving them to a second page. Right now that may only complicate things further, though in the future it may be an option. Furthermore, there is more to be said about TTM and TPT than the Houston Chronicle memorandum issue. IOW, some of the information currently present on this article does not neatly fit into an article specific to the Houston Chronicle. Thus I would propose (1) an article specifically on the Chronicle's memo scandal and (2) an article on the METRORail expansion campaign of 2003 with subsections containing the info on TTM and TPT and redirects from TTM/TTP to the respective locations in that article. Again, I do not think it is yet timely to start this reorganization with other things unresolved though so hold off for the moment. Rangerdude 01:41, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I think that Johntex's idea is sound. My only suggestion would be to broaden the title to cover the election. So maybe just Houston METRORail Controversy. That would cover the areas that Rangerdude also wants to add which go beyond the Chronicle memorandum. -Willmcw 15:03, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

 * I think the proposal itself exposes a little bias. This proposal only makes sense if the Chron's memo is the only slimy element from the entire Metro referendum. Unfortunately practically every player involved with the MetroRail referendum had secret backers or disingenuous interests. As litigation continues more and more names are coming out and the real story is emerging. I humbly propose that we keep all of the pages around and update them as their roles become more clear. I have just updated Texans for True Mobility showing the Delay PAC involvement. I am sure more will be coming out as Delay goes to trial. Dothivalla 15:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

 * I also agree that the proposal has merit. Creating a new Title for the controversies would help clean up the article and give it a more Encyclopedic feel to it.  My only other suggestion would be to try to give boarding and crash numbers to show what improvements are being made.   I was tempted to take care of it myself. :)   --Hourick 00:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:I Drew This

The delete/merge issue seems pretty obvious to me: Merge this with Dana Simpson's general page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.238.197.155 (talk) 01:03, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

 * I've merged in as suggested. Whouk (talk) 12:36, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

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Talk:Auditory processing disorder

Auditory processing disorder article · Talk page · Research papers

Merging Listening problems" into Auditory Processing Disorder
Auditory processing disorder (APD) is about having problems processing what you hear, or having listening problems. APD is the listening disability dolfrog (talk) 17:38, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

 * And the listening problems described for cognitive reasosns are the result of having APD dolfrog (talk) 16:15, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Not worth merging. Firstly, the Listening problems article is largely about a different entity: people whose processing is fine, but who aren't focused on the task because of personal agendas or acquired bad listening habits. Secondly, I'm not even sure the content is worth keeping; it's not a multiply-sourced neutral take on listening problems, but gives a presentation of the main theories of a single book - J. Dan Rothwell's In the Company of Others - as if they were generally accepted fact. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 23:44, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Gordon I would go along with that dolfrog (talk) 18:55, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Behavioral problems
I 'removed tend to have behavioral problems' as I question the accuracy of that statement. my understanding is that behavioral problems tend to only come in to play when its co-existing with something like ADHD and Autism can we verify that this characteristic exists with people that only have CAPD Tydoni (talk) 20:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to revert, but if someone tells you "turn left into the station" or "lift higher above the washer" and you listen "turn right into the station" or "lift lower above the washer", you're going to be accused of behavior problems. Your confusion may well lead to other problems; lacking proper reinforcement, I can see how APD could lead to a poorly developed Executive Function skillset, resulting in a (somewhat correct but misleading) diagnosis of ADHD. htom (talk) 02:13, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Confusing cause and effect?
Those who have APD tend to be quiet or shy, even withdrawn from mainstream society due to their communication problems, and the lack of understanding of these problems by their peers. -it's uncited and it can be the opposite - shyness and withdrawal causing hearing problems, not the other way around. This problem looks very similar to problems faced by language learners who cannot recognize sounds of the foreign language, simply because their ears are not trained to recognize them.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 01:49, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not a hearing problem, it's a listening problem. The ears are working fine, the mixups occur later in the language processing center -- and it can have the consequences you describe. Hearing (loud, quiet sounds; high, low pitchs) will test fine. htom (talk) 02:17, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * So? Are you trying to refute my argument or are you just nitpicking?--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 01:47, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Or if I wasn't clear enough - I meant that being a loner can cause problems with language processing, because recognising the sounds and words of the language needs practice like everything else.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 02:37, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree that a lack of exposure can cause the auditory system not to recognise phonemes (and thus words) correctly. That's not the problem with APD. Words that are known and used by the victim, both in listening and speaking, are mis-recognised when presented to the ear as other words (sometimes words with tangential association) in the victim's vocabulary that were not presented to their ear (their ear (and ours) hears the word "left" and their mind listens to the word "port" instead, to make an example, or hears "port" and listens "wine"), or words are not "listened" at all, they are just deleted from the data stream. If the external ear is at the lowest point of the processing tree, the problem (seems) to be occurring at a level (or levels) higher than that of phoneme recognition, at or above the level of word recognition. There's a similar problem that people can have of word confusions and omissions in reading and writing, and whether this is the same problem and/or cause as APD is unclear, at least to me. Clearer? htom (talk) 04:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You are obviously talking about some different disorder. --Ancient Anomaly (talk) 04:11, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * APD is an umbrella term, covering a number of particular problems with a number of causes. I'm pointing out a flavor of it that doesn't fit your description of cause, but does fall into the APD diagnosis umbrella (at least the hearing form of it.) I think you're trying to over-simplify the complexities involved, which will not help any of the patients trying to learn about what their doctor told them, especially if they know they do not have the particular cause you describe. Yes, that can be a cause; it is not the only possible cause, and not the only possible effect, either. htom (talk) 22:07, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but all sources and everything I was able to find supports my version i.e. the problem with recognizing sounds and words, not hearing synonymes instead or anything similar.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 22:16, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * [] htom (talk) 01:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * So?--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 19:38, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry that your research shows that it's all phoneme recognition. You'd think that if that was the case that they would call it something like that, rather than saying it was a general descriptor including that. You could look at Aphasia or Paraphasia or (especially, perhaps) Transcortical sensory aphasia. htom (talk) 23:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Why? This article is not about aphasia. As I said before, you are talking about something else.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 17:42, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * APD is an umbrella term for a variety of disorders that affect the way the brain processes auditory information. It does not include language disorders. People suffering APD have trouble with understanding spoken language, because they can't hear the phonemes. It's not aphasia, paraphasia or anything of the sort.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 17:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * And I could not find anything about the "variety of disorders", so I'm tagging it with {cn}--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 17:57, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

<out You should really read the entire paper, already cited: http://www.asha.org/docs/html/TR1996-00241.html htom (talk) 03:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You should read it. It indeed mentions aphasia, but not as a part of APD.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 19:03, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

From the cited paper: "A Central Auditory Processing Disorder (CAPD) is an observed deficiency in one or more of the above-listed behaviors. For some persons, CAPD is presumed to result from the dysfunction of processes and mechanisms dedicated to audition; for others, CAPD may stem from some more general dysfunction, such as an attention deficit or neural timing deficit, that affects performance across modalities. It is also possible for CAPD to reflect co-existing dysfunctions of both sorts." and: Language Use

The impact of CAPD on language use is particularly evident in spoken language comprehension. Adults with CNS pathologies and children with developmental language disorders or learning disabilities frequently have difficulty comprehending spoken language, even when they have the necessary language knowledge. If an individual with one of these conditions were to have a central auditory processing disorder, such a disorder would certainly contribute to the comprehension difficulties. For example, patients with right hemisphere lesions of temporal-parietal areas have difficulty analyzing spectral information and thus may lack the intonational information that assists in language understanding.

It is important to note, however, that in contemporary models of language use, the eventual comprehension of a spoken utterance depends upon much more than the processing of acoustic signals. The listener must not only identify, or estimate, the acoustic aspects of the signal, but also must interpret its linguistic value. This requires the activation of lexical representations, grammatical analysis, and judgments of meaning-in-context, to name just a few of the operations invoked in typical language processing models. Working with such models, aphasia researchers point to deficits in resource allocation (McNeil, Odel, & Tseng, 1991), attention (Robin & Rizzo, 1989), or computational inefficiency (Shapiro & Thompson, 1994), as well as temporal processing, in their explanations of language comprehension difficulties. A similar range of explanations can be found in the developmental language literature as well.

The relative importance of “bottom up” (i.e., signal-related) processes and “top down” (i.e., centrally emanating) processes undoubtedly varies among individuals and utterances, depending upon such factors as brain organization, content familiarity, and signal competition (Cole & Jakimik, 1979; Klatt, 1979; Lass, 1984; Marslen-Wilson, 1987; Marslen-Wilson & Welsh, 1978).

Because language comprehension is determined by a number of different factors, clinicians should be cautious in attributing language comprehension difficulties to CAPD in any simple fashion. Likewise, diagnoses of CAPD require comprehensive audiologic assessment and cannot be made solely on the basis of poor comprehension of spoken language. and Approach #1: Enhancing Language Resources. Understanding spoken language depends not only on the acoustic signal and its properties, but also on what the listener brings to the listening situation. Listeners routinely use their knowledge of phonology, grammar, and vocabulary, as well as their world knowledge, to “fill in the blanks” of a speech signal. This capacity becomes even more crucial when signal properties are degraded because of auditory system deficiencies. For example, knowledge of comparatives, conjunctions, and other cohesion devices may be particularly useful in the processing of spoken discourse, and intervention could be directed to the learning (or recovery) of these forms (Wren, 1983). It may also prove useful to prepare clients for upcoming lessons, conferences, and the like by teaching any new vocabulary they will need. The information obtained from a speech-language assessment will help the clinician to determine what areas of language to target in intervention.

Once language forms are learned (or recovered), clinicians must also help clients use this knowledge, reliably and automatically, to interpret acoustic signals. Because much of what constitutes central auditory processing is preconscious, occurring without effort or awareness, this intervention goal cannot be met simply by encouraging clients to use what they have learned. Clients will also need opportunities for extended practice with newly learned (or recovered) grammatical patterns or words in order to improve their efficient use of this knowledge in speech processing (Casby, 1992; VanLehn, 1989).

There are some processing difficulties that cannot be addressed by increasing the availability of, or access to, language knowledge. Virtually all individuals with CAPD, in some or another situation, experience such signal degradation that their language resources are not automatically triggered. To assist with these occasions, clinicians can help clients with CAPD learn explicit comprehension strategies. By consciously focusing on crucial aspects of the spoken signal such clients can improve language processing. For example, they can learn to monitor their level of comprehension, pay greater attention to specific speech sounds, use prosody and sentence structure to predict degraded message elements, or deduce word meaning from context (Miller & Gildea, 1987).

Approach #2: Improving signal quality. The second approach to intervention for individuals with CAPD is directed towards improving the quality of the acoustic signal. One way this goal can be achieved is by reducing competing acoustic signals in the listening environment — that is, by reducing background noise and reverberation time. Another way signal quality can be improved is by boosting the intensity of the signal through preferential seating and the use of assistive devices such as FM systems or soundfield amplification. Devices such as these should be evaluated by an audiologist to ensure optimal fitting and to minimize possible detrimental effects (American Speech-Language-Hearing Association, 1994a).

Finally, the quality of linguistic signals can be improved by having communication partners, such as teachers or spouses, speak more slowly, pause more often, and emphasize key words (Ellis Weismer, & Hesketh, 1993; Keith, 1981). Visual aids such as gestures or graphic displays may also prove useful to speech understanding as long as the cues are readily interpretable. Although there has been some enthusiasm for sound control approaches (e.g., occlusion of the weaker ear), there is no theoretical or empirical support for their use. and: Parallel difficulties in clinical decision making arise in the treatment of the adult with cognitive/linguistic disorders, (e.g., aphasia). Language comprehension problems in this population could result from memory and attention deficits, from impaired access to language knowledge, or from difficulties in registering the temporal properties of the speech signal. In fact, all of these factors may be combining to produce the behavioral outcome.

One might argue that if the client performs normally with nonverbal stimuli in tasks with competing signals, basic signal processing capabilities are not likely to be the problem. This argument assumes, however, that verbal and nonverbal assessment tasks are perceptually equivalent and are processed by the same auditory processing mechanisms—an assumption that is still a matter of debate. The situation is no better if the client has difficulty with the nonverbal stimuli. One cannot conclude that signal processing is therefore the primary explanation for failure to comprehend spoken language. Inadequate mastery of language could still be a major contributor.

Relative measures of auditory function, such as ear differences, monaural versus binaural differences, and message-to-competition ratio differences, may assist the clinician in determining the relative contributions of auditory-specific versus more generalized processes. For example, auditory dysfunction that is limited to one ear may manifest as an ipsilateral or contralateral ear deficit, whereas deficits in general processes would be likely to affect performance from both ears. In many cases, however, the evidence is not clear, and decisions about the relative contributions of auditory versus language or other general processes must remain uncertain. I'm trying to maintain good faith, but it really seems to me that your understanding of the problem is very different way than the experts. You seem think it's solely that people have not been trained to hear language elements; they seem to think that that is one of many potential problems involved. htom (talk) 21:38, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It isn't. You seem to think that this is a language problem. It isn't. People with APD have problems with comperhension because they can't hear well. Everything, including this "paper" agrees with me on that. Yes, they don't know what causes it, but everyone except you seems to agree that APD is a hearing problem.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 03:02, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Compare and contrast, please, the bold and italic parts below of the first quote above. You seem to be saying the italic part is not there: "A Central Auditory Processing Disorder (CAPD) is an observed deficiency in one or more of the above-listed behaviors. For some persons, CAPD is presumed to result from the dysfunction of processes and mechanisms dedicated to audition; for others, CAPD may stem from some more general dysfunction, such as an attention deficit or neural timing deficit, that affects performance across modalities. It is also possible for CAPD to reflect co-existing dysfunctions of both sorts."

Auditory Processing Disorder (APD) is a listening disability or having problems processing what you hear all sound which includes the human sound communication system speech, sounds of nature, sirens, alarms etc. APD is not a hearing impairment. dolfrog (talk) 00:11, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

No VPD?
Where's the visual equivalent of this condition, visual processing disorder? Strangely enough there's not an article for it on here. 70.29.244.213 (talk) 06:34, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

There are many visual processing, and other sensory processing issues, may be you could find the relevant research and create the article. dolfrog (talk) 17:53, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Proposed Merger with King-Kopetzky syndrome
I feel that King-Kopetzky syndrome should be merged into this article. From what I understand, King-Kopetzky syndrome is an outdated name for Auditory Processing Disorder, so basically, there are two articles abou the same condition.CircleGirl (talk) 04:39, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

I have now merged the two pages.CircleGirl (talk) 00:50, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Removal of prevalence data
I contributed epi data earlier that was removed, even though the cited sources are excellent source of information.

The removed information stated: " Although the actual prevalence is currently unknown the prevalence of APD in children has been estimated at 2-7% in US and UK populations . APD prevalence is much higher in the elderly, and increases with age."

This paragraph was replaced by a sentence saying there were no good epi studies. Perhaps they could have said insufficient and asked for other sources. The Framingham Heart Study cohort is a highly respected study. We could link to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UIowagrad (talk • contribs) 16:43, 11 January 2019 (UTC) UIowagrad (talk) 16:45, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

 * User:UIowagrad Okay I see you added those details here
 * And than you removed them yourself here
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 * User:UIowagrad did you mean to do this?
 * Looks like you are editing an old version of the page. I adjusted. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 21:08, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

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Junior Bonner

Junior Bonner is a 1972 American contemporary Western film directed by Sam Peckinpah and starring Steve McQueen, Robert Preston, Joe Don Baker and Ida Lupino. The film focuses on a veteran rodeo rider as he returns to his hometown of Prescott, Arizona, to participate in an annual rodeo competition and reunite with his brother and estranged parents. Many critics consider it to be the warmest and most gentle of Peckinpah's films.

Plot
Junior "JR" Bonner is a rodeo cowboy who is slightly past his prime, although he won't admit it. Junior is first seen taping up his injuries after an unsuccessful ride on an ornery bull named Sunshine.

He returns home to Prescott, Arizona, for the Independence Day parade and rodeo. When he arrives, the Bonner family home is being bulldozed by his younger brother Curly, an entrepreneur and real-estate developer, to build a trailer park. Junior's womanizing father, Ace, and down-to-earth, long-suffering mother, Elvira, are estranged. Ace dreams of emigrating to Australia to rear sheep and mine gold, but he fails to obtain financing from Curly nor Junior, who is broke.

After flooring his arrogant brother with a punch, Junior bribes rodeo owner Buck Roan to let him ride Sunshine again, promising him half the prize money. Buck thinks he must be crazy, but Junior actually manages to pull it off this time, going the full eight seconds on the bull.

Junior walks into a travel agent's office and buys his father a one-way, first-class ticket to Australia. The film's final shot shows JR leaving his hometown, his successful ride on Sunshine continuing to put off the inevitable end of his rodeo career.

Cast

 * Steve McQueen as Junior 'J.R.' Bonner
 * Robert Preston as Ace Bonner
 * Ida Lupino as Elvira Bonner
 * Ben Johnson as Buck Roan
 * Joe Don Baker as Curly Bonner
 * Barbara Leigh as Charmagne
 * Mary Murphy as Ruth Bonner
 * Bill McKinney as Red Terwiliger
 * Dub Taylor as Del
 * Sandra Deel as Nurse Arlis
 * Don "Red" Barry as Homer Rutledge
 * Charles H. Gray as Burt

Themes
The story explores one of Sam Peckinpah's favorite themes: the end of a traditional form of honor and the arrival of modern capitalism on the western frontier. In a memorable scene, Ace and Junior escape from the rodeo parade on Junior's horse, ending up at a deserted railway station, where they drink and despair at the state of the world and their indigency. The film enjoyed a resurgence of popularity in the mid-2000s because of retrospectives of Sam Peckinpah's work and the screenplay's predictions regarding capitalist development.

Production
In May 1971, weeks after completing Straw Dogs in England, Sam Peckinpah returned to the United States to begin immediate work on Junior Bonner. The lyrical screenplay by Jeb Rosebrook, depicting the changing times of society and binding family ties, appealed to Peckinpah's tastes. He accepted the project, concerned with being typed as a director of violent action (at the time, The Wild Bunch was his most renowned film, and Straw Dogs was in preparation to be released to theaters). Junior Bonner would be his final attempt to make a low-key, dramatic work in the vein of Noon Wine (1966) and The Ballad of Cable Hogue (1970).

Filmed on location in Prescott, Arizona, Peckinpah utilized many colorful locales and residents as extras in the film.

Reception
Released amidst a glut of rodeo-themed films, including The Honkers (1972), J.W. Coop (1972) and When the Legends Die (1972), Junior Bonner performed poorly at the box office. It earned rentals of $1.9 million in North America and $900,000 in other countries, recording an overall loss of $2,820,000.

Although the film was unwisely promoted as a typical Steve McQueen action vehicle, critical reception was still fairly good but not enthusiastic. Peckinpah would remark, "I made a film where nobody got shot and nobody went to see it." Stinging from the financial failure of Junior Bonner but eager to work with Peckinpah again, McQueen presented him Walter Hill's screenplay to The Getaway, which they would film months after completing Junior Bonner. The second collaboration proved to be a financially successful one, as the action film would become one of the biggest box-office successes of their careers.

Roger Ebert, writing for the Chicago Sun-Times, gave the film two stars out of four and called it "a flat-out disappointment, despite Peckinpah's track record and his proven ability to elegize the West...the movie simply never comes together and works as a whole. The material is terribly thin."

Gary Arnold of The Washington Post stated that McQueen was given "precious little written character to play or emotion to express", and that the film was "easy to take, yet so insubstantial that there's no compelling reason to see or remember it. The film sort of drifts across the screen and fades from your mind an instant later."

The New York Times' Vincent Canby wrote: "Junior Bonner, which looks like a rodeo film and sounds like a rodeo film, is a superior family comedy in disguise."

Arthur D. Murphy of Variety wrote, "The latterday film genre of misunderstood-rodeo-drifter gets one of its best expositions in Junior Bonner, Sam Peckinpah's latest film, which makes another of his occasional shifts away from the bloodbath. Steve McQueen stars handily in the title role, with Robert Preston and Ida Lupino returning to pix in excellent well-turned characterizations as his estranged parents."

Gene Siskel of the Chicago Tribune gave the film three stars out of four, calling it: "A decent picture from a fine director."

Kevin Thomas of the Los Angeles Times wrote: "This lively, affectionate contemporary western, which stars Steve McQueen in one of his finest performances, is one of the most enjoyable pictures Peckinpah has ever made and surely is his most appealing. What's more, it marks the return to the screen of Robert Preston and Ida Lupino, who also are at their best."

Home media
Junior Bonner was released on DVD May 25, 2004, by MGM Home Entertainment as Region 1 widescreen; and May 17, 2005, as part of the box set, The Steve McQueen Collection, with Junior Bonner as the fourth movie of a 4-disc set. The film was released on Blu-ray by Kino Lorber November 6, 2017.

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WCW Cruiserweight Tag Team Championship

The WCW Cruiserweight Tag Team Championship was a title created in 2001 just prior to World Championship Wrestling (WCW) being sold to the World Wrestling Federation (WWF).

History
The WCW Cruiserweight Championship and the matches contested for that title had long been a unique feature on WCW programming. With the number of cruiserweights signed, it was decided to expand the visibility of the division, and create a tag team title for the cruiserweights in February 2001.

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Canadian postal code
What do you think about this article? I've worked on it for quite a bit of time, and I think I have milked all the information I can out of this topic. Denelson83 23:49, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * It looks good. The only area I would like to know more about is the system before the current one was introduced. The article notes that in 1971 the new system "replaced postal zones in large cities," but doesn't really explain what those were and how they differed from what we have today. - SimonP 01:56, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * I could only dig up the fact that postal zones were introduced in 1925, but I could not find any information that showed how they worked. In lieu of that, I could always remove that information.  Denelson83  23:42, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I didn't get what Forward sorting area and local delivery unit means and the differences between the two. Would also like to see a longer history. = Nichalp ( Talk )= 07:40, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * Okay, I took that large example of a postal code, just above the postal district map, and highlighted each part of the postal code using different colours. Does that help you somewhat?  Denelson83  23:42, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I understood it now. Thanks. Informative article. = Nichalp ( Talk )= 19:30, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

Now, all we need is an external reference to that Globe and Mail article on the history of the Canadian postal code, plus a longer lead-in, and I think we may have a new featured article on our hands. Denelson83 05:21, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually some of the best sources of information were not articles but the many ads Canada Post ran in the paper when they introduced the new system. I'm not sure exactly how to cite those. - SimonP 23:10, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, if you have hard-copy versions of those ads, maybe you can scan some of them and upload them to Wikipedia, attributing them to Canada Post. Denelson83  02:20, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * No, I found them on the Globe's online archive. Most major Canadian libraries ley you log on to this service from home if you put in your library card number. - SimonP 22:33, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Apparently that means I can't access it, because my library is the Vancouver Island Regional Library, and the Globe and Mail's own website only lets you search back to 2002. Denelson83  00:40, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually I think you can. Here is the link to the Vancouver Island Regional Library's access page to the Globe archives. - SimonP 03:56, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)


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Saint Hilarion Castle

The Saint Hilarion Castle lies on the Kyrenia mountain range, in Cyprus. This location provided the castle with command of the pass road from Kyrenia to Nicosia. It is the best preserved ruin of the three former strongholds in the Kyrenia mountains, the other two being Kantara and Buffavento.

History
The castle is not named after St. Hilarion, active in Palestine and Cyprus in the 4th century. It was named after an obscure saint, who is traditionally held to have fled to Cyprus after the Arab conquest of the Holy Land and retired to the hilltop on which the castle was built for hermitage. An English traveller reported the preservation of his relics in the 14th century. It has been proposed that a monastery built in his name preceded the castle, which was built around it. However, this view is not supported by any substantial evidence.

Starting in the 11th century, the Byzantines began fortification. Saint Hilarion, together with the castles of Buffavento and Kantara, formed the defense of the island against Arab raids against the coast. Some sections were further upgraded under the Lusignan dynasty, whose kings may have used it as a summer residence. During the rule of Lusignans, the castle was the focus of a four-year struggle between Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II and Regent John d' Ibelin for control of Cyprus.

Much of the castle was dismantled by the Venetians in the 15th century to reduce the cost of garrisons.

Architecture
The castle has three divisions or wards. The lower and middle wards served economic purposes, while the upper ward housed the royal family. The lower ward had the stables and the living quarters for the men-at-arms. The Prince John tower sits on a cliff high above the lower castle.

The upper ward was surrounded by a 1.4 metre-thick Byzantine wall, made of rough masonry. The entrance is through a pointed arch built by the Lusignans. This was protected by a semicircular tower to the east. Within the ward is a courtyard, with twin peaks being situated to either side of it. To the north-east is an extremely ruined kitchen. To the west are the royal apartments, dated by various sources to the 13th or 14th centuries. Although mostly ruined today, this was a structure in the northeast-southwest axis, with a length of 25 m and width of 6 m. It has a basement containing a cistern and two floors. The ground floor has a height of 7 m and a pointed barrel vault. The upper floor is known for its carved windows, one of which is dubbed the Queen's Window. These are placed on the western wall, which has a scenic view of the northern coast of Cyprus, especially the plains of Lapithos.

In fiction
Two of the main characters in the 1958 historical novel, Exodus, by Leon Uris, spend a day walking around the castle ruins. Featured in the 1999 novel “Race of Scorpions” by Dorothy Dunnett. The Castle of Saint Hilarion appears in the 2009 action-adventure video game Assassin's Creed: Bloodlines, the 2015 novel "The Lost Treasure of the Templars" by James Becker, and Death in Cyprus by M. M. Kaye. The castle is also featured in the 2016 crypto-thriller The Apocalypse Fire by Dominic Selwood.

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Talk:Big Brother (British TV series) series 6

Nominations
Where are the nominations in week 7 for Anthony, Craig and Kemal? Where are Makosi's nominations in week 1 for Mary and Craig? Where is Makosi's nomination to evict Kinga in week 5?

None of these are in the nominations table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.66.164 (talk) 00:56, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

 * They are all explained in the associated nomination notes. Makosi's choice to evict Kinga in Week 5 wasn't a proper nomination. Week 1 was after the proper nominations, so is fine being mentioned in the note. Week 7 could possibly be included in the table but it was there before and it looked very cluttered so somebody moved it to a note, and it has been that way for a very long time, so I think that counts as an established consensus. Anemone  Projectors  01:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I changed it today to reflect the changes to nominations in weeks 1 and 2, but it's been reverted back without any explanation. I hate people on heres' need to control.213.121.16.121 (talk) 17:33, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * All three nominations have now been added to the table. Thanks --Firegazer101 (talk) 10:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

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Palatua

Palatua was a Roman goddess who was provided an official priest or flamen, the Flamen Palatualis. She was the guardian deity of the southern peak of the Palatine Hill.

Aside from this little else is known about her, and it is a safe assumption that her cult, like those of Falacer or Volturnus, had diminished during the late republican period, and that by the beginning of the Empire there were few, if any, followers aside from the flamen.

title: Palatua