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Metal Slug 4

Metal Slug 4 (メタルスラッグ 4) is a run and gun video game for the Neo-Geo console/arcade platform created by Mega Enterprise along with Noise Factory and Playmore. It was released in 2002 for the Neo-Geo MVS arcade platform, and is the fourth game in the Metal Slug series. Two years later, Playmore published Metal Slug 4 for consoles.

Metal Slug 4 retains the same gameplay as previous titles, with the addition of some enemies, bosses, weapons, several vehicles and a bonus combo system. It was ported to Xbox and PlayStation 2 as a stand-alone game in Japan and Europe, and along with Metal Slug 5 as a compilation in North America and South Korea. The Nintendo Switch version was released in 2018.

Gameplay
A bonus scoring system was added that allows the player to be rewarded depending on how many enemies are killed in the time allotted. The time allotted is determined from the type of emblem that is picked up. A time meter will appear on the top of the screen, and if the player lives through the end of the level, they will be awarded bonus points for badges that represent feats accomplished. Eri and Tarma were replaced with Nadia and Trevor.

Plot
One year after the events of Metal Slug 3 and 6, the world is under the threat of a mysterious and deadly cyber virus that threatens to attack and destroy any nation's military computer system. With Tarma Roving and Eri Kasamoto unable to help out due to their own assignments in the matter, Marco Rossi and Fiolina Germi are called in to investigate the situation and are joined by two newcomers, Nadia Cassel and Trevor Spacey. In their investigation, the group discovers that a rich terrorist organization known as the Amadeus Syndicate is behind the plot and has allied with General Morden's Rebel Army. They head into battle against Amadeus' forces, hoping to destroy the cyber virus before it gets the chance to wipe out the entire world's military computer system.

Halfway through the game's story mode, the player is confronted by who they presume to be General Morden. In the final stage, they find an underground facility where android doubles of Morden are being manufactured. Allen O' Neil fights the player and is also revealed to be a machine replica. The player confronts the leader of the syndicate, a man tentatively called "Doctor", who attacks with a series of powerful robots, but he is defeated and is trapped in his own devices as the base self-destructs, killing him. If the player safely escapes the base's bonus explosion stage, the credits will show the main cast eating a feast of food, but if the player gets caught in the explosion, the player character will appear in the hospital, bandaged and bed-ridden, being brought get-well gifts of food from both Tarma and Eri. After the credits, a single computer monitor is seen transmitting data to an unknown location before shutting down.

Reception
In Japan, Game Machine listed Metal Slug 4 on their May 1, 2002 issue as being the second most-successful arcade game of the month.

Metal Slug 4 was mixed to positive received by players with users scores of 7.8 for PS2, 7.3 for Xbox, 8.1 for Neo Geo and 8.3 for the arcade versions, while Metacritic and Gamrankings are given with 70.47% and 70 along with Metal Slug 5 as compilation for both PS2 and Xbox score.

Legacy and re-releases
An emulated port by Code Mystics was released for Microsoft Windows on the Prime Gaming service on April 20, 2023. This port was released on GOG.com on April 8, 2024.

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

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User:Frutzo

I think therefore I am Frutzo

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Talk:John Laughland

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I am the original author of this entry, and I have been studying the former Yugoslavia for ten years, an issue  where John Laughland knows nothing but the  propaganda lies  of the Serbs. I wish do-gooders didn't interfere with my work unless they have  some real knowledge  about the issue. François Guillaumat.

 * If you want to add information to Wikipedia, do so in a way that complies with NPOV. It is really irrelevant whether you have "been studying the former Yugoslavia for ten years" -- if your content isn't NPOV (and the current version of your edits is laughably far from NPOV), it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Neilc 02:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

When dealing with propaganda lies, "neutrality"  means deliberate  distorsion of the truth. It is not the purpose of an encyclopedia, for which  competence is also necessary. If you know nothing about the issues I am working on, and have nothing else to contribute than  obliteration of my work, you show your disregard for both.

I repeat: I created this entry. Some have edited its polemical tone in a sensible way,  even if they contributed no additional information. They did not erase it. I am willing to accept this,  not pure vandalizing.

 * Well, the fact that you created the entry isn't relevant, the content of your proposed edits are. Regarding neutrality, the point here is that NPOV is official Wikipedia policy -- if you think it "means deliberate distorsion (sic) of the truth", that's neither here nor there -- it is Wikipedia policy. Anyway, I would really much rather discuss your edits with you in a productive manner. I see you've made at least one improvement: claiming he is a "conspiracy theorist" is pretty clearly POV. Anyway, I've got to run at the moment, but I'll make more constructive suggestions later today. Neilc 02:53, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Laughland is a right-wing madman. I laughed out lound at least twenty times when I read one chapter of 'The Death of Politics'. He is controversial in order to make a name for himself. He plays on his strengths as a lucid writer and comic in an attempt to mask his patent lack of sensible ideas. It is fun to read his crazed rants - try it! wildeep, revising for finals, 5/5/06

Pronunciation
How is his name pronounced? It looks like laffland but I wonder if it's lockland or lochlike or lawland. 86.151.140.98 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:17, 30 March 2012 (UTC).

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Academic and Sorbonne?
I find no evidence anywhere Laughland still has a position in any academia, so I removed the claim "academic". Even though I expect he was at sometime lecturer at one of the universities of Paris that were founded after the Sorbonne was disbanded, him being lecturing at the actual Sorbonne would imply he was university lecturer by the age of 7 (!!) as the Sorbonne was disbanded in 1970. Arnoutf (talk) 16:20, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Operation Tennessee Waltz

current tag added
There was some action today, so I've added it in skelton and marked this article as a current event. Jon 19:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Is it just me or...
...are all the links dead? 68.39.174.238 22:34, 16 February 2007 (UTC)`

Those who figured it out?
How about a section for those lawmakers who didn't fall for the bait? Is there enough to make it an article? What got me to thinking about it was this article in The Chattanoogan concerning Brenda Turner.-- Silverhand Talk 16:35, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Bad external links
I am removing the following nonworking links from the article. If someone can figure out what they formerly linked to, the newspaper articles might be useful as article sources:

 * News article about the arrests
 * Tennessee Waltz Timeline at News Channel 15.
 * http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/nation_and_world/article/0,1426,MCA_454_4480819,00.html
 * http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/midsouth_news/article/0,1426,MCA_1497_4470739,00.html
 * http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/local_news/article/0,1426,MCA_437_4372492,00.html
 * http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/local_news/article/0,1426,MCA_437_3866688,00.html

--Orlady (talk) 18:16, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Timeline?
Any comment on the way most of the article is a timeline? RJFJR (talk) 16:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Peer review/Operation Tennessee Waltz/archive1

Operation Tennessee Waltz
I think this has the chance to be a great article. 68.59.194.244 02:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * That may be true, but it's an ongoing event, and information is still coming in. Maybe we should let it settle a bit first before improving it. --khaosworks 02:18, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * No red links please. Also, the link to TBI is a disambig page with the Tennessee Bureau as a red link. Unless you're going to write these pages, leave the red links off please. Also, the lead needs to say what the sting was for. Harro5 08:32, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * No, that is wrong. If there is a topic that should be written, and you've correctly named it according to the Naming conventions, it is very important to have these red links, because they tell us where articles should be. They are often very helpful in expanding Wikipedia. Of course it must be taken into account whether the topic deserves its own article or whether it should be redirected and covered in another topic, or not at all. - Taxman Talk 14:01, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Specific comments for the article, please do research with the most reliable sources available, inlcuding public court filings if possible, and cite the sources preferably with inline citations. - Taxman Talk 14:01, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)


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Speaker of the Northern Territory Legislative Assembly

The Speaker of the Northern Territory Legislative Assembly is the presiding officer in the Northern Territory Legislative Assembly. Though the office had existed since the creation of the Assembly in 1974, it was given greater legislative force when the roles and functions of the office were included in the federal Act that gave the Territory self-government in 1978.

The Speaker's principal duty is to preside over the Assembly. The occupant of the Chair must maintain order in the House, uphold the Standing Orders (rules of procedure) and protect the rights of backbench members.

The Speaker must be a member of the Assembly themselves, and is elected to the position by a ballot of the members of the Assembly. It is generally a partisan position, although both Speaker and Deputy Speaker were independents between 2001 and 2005.


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Talk:Image map

Image maps on wikipedia
Just curious, does Wikipedia support usage of image maps, ie. if I used an image on Wikipedia and divided it into HTML sections like described? -- Natalinasmpf 02:12, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes wikipedia now has http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap installed, and there is an example of its use on the page here -- Harry Wood (talk) 15:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

External Link
I guess Jeffz1 thought my Online Image Map Tool was not useful for this article. I guess I feel different about this. I know about the advertising rule 4.1, but I think this Image mapping tool is great for the users who land on this page. Please if you truly think this link is not good for the users on this article then I guess it should stay off but I feel it is a great tool. Also the user comments are real and all positive. If the rest of the public thinks the way I do. Feel free to post the link back for the image mapping community.Mgwalk

 * I don't know what could be better than this free online image map tool that mgwalk had posted. I happened to land on his page from this image map article.  I didn't bookmark the site and I knew I had gotten to it via this wiki article.  So I came back to find it again.  To my suprise it was gone and I couldn't remeber the domain.  I have since bookmarked it but feel this tool is very useful for people need a quick and easy image map.briant97  —Preceding undated comment was added at 13:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Personally, I don't think any website that's soley an image map creator adds anything to the article. It seems like it's a decent tool but that's all it is and wikipedia isn't here to promote your work, nor is it here to use in place of your favourites folder. To be completely honest parts of the article can sound very much like an instruction manual or a "how to" and should probably be edited at least in style if not content.57.66.65.3 (talk) 13:54, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

 * I agree that the article needs a bit more work, but a section for image-map tools is definitely of value to the article. Image-maps are very difficult to create by hand. I'll add a few in, including the site mentioned above because I think it's probably the only online tool.  — SimonEast (talk) 05:18, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Printable illustration
The live image map example appearing here is a good illustration if you're viewing the article in a web browser BUT wikipedia should be printable. Need to think of a way of showing the idea in a diagram with arrows, perhaps to appear alongside the live example. -- Harry Wood (talk) 15:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

broken link
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/HTML/IMAP/ doesn't work —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.76.127.68 (talk) 14:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Examples Needed?
I think this article could benefit from some HTML examples. I often use Wikipedia as my first port of call for code related research. Antony Carthy (talk) 08:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Request for more information: Historical.
I'd like to see in the article, the date and revision number of HTML that the image maps first came in to existence. I swear I remember these from as early as 1995 Netscape Navigator. But I'm not a web designer, and I thought maybe some oldtimers could help add historical information to the article. — (ooh look, this editor knows the HTML entity for an em dash) Aladdin Sane (talk) 02:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

server side image maps
How are they defined in HTML? What is transmitted to the server? Can you give an example, please? --RokerHRO (talk) 09:19, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I added a section on server-side maps, hope that helps Tsandersz (talk) 13:40, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Origin of imagemap
I believe the history of 'imagemap' recorded in wikipedia is incorrect. I am the original creator and my understanding is that, because of this, I cannot edit the page but here is some information for anyone who wishes to update the information.

If you look at the URL http://1997.webhistory.org/historyday/abstracts.html it says:

 * In May 1993, when Kevin Hughes set up a Web site at Honolulu Community College

Kevin may well have worked on his campus map earlier but I would wonder upon which server and using which browser he did this. Mine are both documented here.

Using the www-talk archives the timeline is:

Thu, 25 Feb 93 21:09:02 -0800 http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q1/0182.html Marc Andreessen proposes new IMG tag

Sun, 14 Mar 93 03:20:25 -0800 http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q1/0263.html Marc Andreessen announces 'inlined image' available in Mosaic 0.10

Tue, 04 May 1993 21:40:08 -0500 http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q2/0225.html Tony Sanders announces modified Perl HTTP server with
 * Image Decoding
 * Some tools to support image decoding when browsers are able to send the x, y coordinates of the mouse click when you select the image. If you have xmosaic and would like an advance demo of this check out http://www.bsdi.com/demo/hypermedia.html. The patches required for xmosaic 1.0 are pointed to by that file. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, don't use them for production code. Only use them for this demo. I'm hoping I can get support for this in xmosaic 1.1 (to do it right requires changing  to support something like  to enable the new code only on images that support it.

The distribution included patches to Mosaic which were integrated to the Mosaic release:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx9OP3g5SBKQaVJkTDhDU2l5LVU/edit?usp=sharing

Which you can verify in the CHANGES notes for Mosaic. A copy of which can be found on github (around line 898):

https://raw.github.com/alandipert/ncsa-mosaic/master/CHANGES
 * o Added ISMAP tag support to IMG tag (courtesy Tony Sanders).

Side note: The first imagemap was the famous NASA spacewalk image:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx9OP3g5SBKQMXRPMkRYdjJyRTg/edit?usp=sharing

And finally,

Tue, 18 May 93 01:50:10 -0500 http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q2/0343.html Marc Andreessen announces Mosaic 1.1 will have ISMAP support
 * This is a pre-announcement that Mosaic 1.1 will include support for Tony Sanders' ISMAP attribute as part of IMG elements (see http://www.bsdi.com/server/walk/walk.html for details) as an HTML extension.

This was later finalized at the workshop in Cambridge at the offices of O'Reilly and Associates

Sat, 19 Jun 1993 15:27:18 -0700 http://1997.webhistory.org/www.lists/www-talk.1993q2/0572.html Dale Dougherty announces WWW Developer's Conference

To which I was fortunate to have attended.

Tsandersz (talk) 02:20, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I have removed the claim that Kevin Hughes invented it, on the ground that the single extant source isn't sufficiently reliable, but I think we need a third-party reliable source to say who did invent it.--greenrd (talk) 15:36, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Thanks, I did add a section on the technical aspects of server-side image maps but I kept it minimal. Thanks Tsandersz (talk) 16:05, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Obsolescent?
You virtually never see image maps on the Web any more; this has been the case for many years. If they are obsolescent for some reason (whether by official deprecation, or the fact that people prefer to use Flash applets or what not) then this should probably be made clear. Equinox ◑ 21:42, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

 * Flash, hm? This comment aged really well… Tuvalkin (talk) 12:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Easy Imagemap Generator
the site on External links section claims: "Instead of watching ads, your computer is mining small amounts of cryptocurrency to support this website."

it is ok for WP:EL? --valepert (talk) 09:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't even know what that would mean ("mining small amounts of cryptocurrency"). Can you explain it?

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List of Walt Disney Pictures films

This is a list of films produced by and released under the Walt Disney Pictures banner (known as that since 1983, with Never Cry Wolf as its first release) and films released before that under the former name of the parent company, Walt Disney Productions (1929–1983). Most films listed here were distributed theatrically in the United States by the company's distribution division, Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures, formerly known as Buena Vista Film Distribution Company (1953–1960), Buena Vista Distribution Company (1960–1987) and Buena Vista Pictures Distribution (1987–2007). The Disney features produced before The Living Desert (1953) were originally distributed by United Artists and RKO Radio Pictures, and are now distributed by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures. Some films produced by Walt Disney Pictures are also released through the parent company's streaming service, Disney+.

This list is organized by release date and includes live-action feature films (including theatrical, direct-to-video and streaming releases), animated feature films (including films developed and produced by Walt Disney Animation Studios and Pixar Animation Studios) and documentary films (including titles from the True-Life Adventures series and films produced by the Disneynature label). For an exclusive list of animated films released by Walt Disney Pictures and its previous entities see List of Disney theatrical animated feature films and List of Disney feature-length home entertainment releases § Animated films.

This list is only for films released under the main Disney banner. It does not include films produced or released by other existing, defunct or divested labels or subsidiaries owned by Walt Disney Studios (i.e. Marvel Studios, Lucasfilm, 20th Century Studios, Searchlight Pictures, Fox 2000 Pictures, Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, National Geographic Documentary Films, Miramax Films, Dimension Films, ESPN Films, etc.) unless they are credited as co-production partners, nor any direct-to-video releases unless they were produced under the main Disney banner, TV films, theatrical re-releases or films originally released by other non-Disney studios.

All films listed are theatrical releases and/or American-based films unless specified.
 * A ‡ symbol signifies a direct-to-video or streaming release exclusively through Disney+.
 * A † symbol signifies a premium video on demand release through Disney+.
 * A § symbol signifies a simultaneous release to theatres and on premium video on demand.
 * A * symbol signifies a film not produced in the United States, but rather in another country.

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User:Jacques Antoine

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lethargic

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was - deleted, but should someday redirect to an article at lethargy. - SimonP 23:28, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

Lethargic
Nothing but a single-sentence (and grammatically incorrect) dicdef. Firebug 02:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and Redirect to Lethargy, which redirects to Fatigue. Revolución 02:15, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * How about we avoid the double-redir and go directly to Fatigue (do not pass Go, do not collect $200)? A и D я 01D  TALK  EMAIL  03:10, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Neither lethargic nor lethargy should redirect to fatigue. Kappa 07:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: They should until someone makes a lethargy page. Proto 11:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, speedy ok. Poor attempt at dicdef. Agree with Kappa that lethargy and lethargic should NOT redirect to fatigue. -- Infrogmation 14:23, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete is 'adjective - belongs to dictionary side. iirc, some guide explicitly mentoned to not use adjectives as arty topics. Fabartus 19:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. --Carnildo 21:31, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The "some guide" is the naming conventions (adjectives), which also recommends that adjectives be redirects to nouns. Kappa is right, although I don't know whether for the right reason. lethargic and lethargy should not redirect to fatigue.  fatigue is a disambiguation article.  They should redirect to fatigue (physical), where you will find that someone has already made a lethargy page. Uncle G 22:33, 2005 Jun 1 (UTC)
 * Delete. Whoever wrote this doesn't understand the difference between the noun lethargy and the adjective lethargic and thinks it's OK to write Wikipedia articles as if they were dictionary definitions. Michael Hardy 21:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and Redirect to Lethargy It would be a good idea if the Lethargy areticle contained info about Lethargy and not redirect to Fatigue. Foant 17:20, 2005 Jun 13 (UTC)

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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The Wild Ride

The Wild Ride is a 1960 American film directed by Harvey Berman and starring Jack Nicholson as a rebellious punk named Johnny, of the Beat generation, who spends his days as an amateur dirt track driver in between partying and troublemaking. It was released by Filmgroup as a double feature with The Girl in Lovers Lane. The film has become part of the public domain and is considered by some to be a cult classic.

Plot
A rebellious punk of the beat generation spends his days as an amateur dirt track driver in between partying and troublemaking. He eventually kills a police officer, kidnaps his buddy's girlfriend, and sees his friend's life end in tragedy.

Re-cut version
In 1999, The Wild Ride was re-edited with new footage that makes the original film a long flashback sequence. Running 88 minutes and titled Velocity, the new scenes feature Jack Nicholson impersonator Joe Richards playing an older version of the character originally played by Nicholson, as well as performances by Jorge Garcia, Jason Sudeikis, and Dick Miller.

Cast

 * Jack Nicholson as Johnny Varron
 * Georgianna Carter as Nancy
 * Robert Bean as Dave
 * Carol Bigby as Joyce
 * John Bologni as Barny
 * Gary Espinosa as Cliff
 * Judith Tresize as Ann
 * Wesley Marie Tackitt
 * Sydene Wallace
 * Donna Dabney
 * Garry Korpi
 * Leonard Williams
 * John Holden
 * Raymond O'Day
 * Carl Vicknair as Police Officer #1

Production
The executive producer on the film was Roger Corman. Harvey Berman was a high school drama teacher in northern California who had gone to the UCLA drama school with some friends of Corman. He decided to make a film during the summer in and around Concord, California using some of his high school drama class students in the cast and crew and sending a few Hollywood professionals to work with them. One of these was Jack Nicholson. Corman later wrote "this is one of the little pictures I remember with pleasure; it turned out very well."

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Talk:FHM-U.S.'s 100 Sexiest Women 2005

Articles on compilations from other sources
The article FHM-US's 100 Sexiest Women 2005 has been stuck in a debate at Copyright problems over whether or not it's a copyright violation. The article lists, in order, the 100 names that had been reported in FHM magazine as the results of an annual poll it conducts (here is the 2004 list to show what it looked like). Some people are arguing that FHM has the copyright on this list. Others (including myself) think that the list itself is not copyrightable because the magazine editors did not select and rank the results; they reported the results of a poll. The magazine also added editorial content by selecting pictures and text to accompany the list, but none of this was included in the Wikipedia article so it wasn't an issue.

The issue is still unresolved. Some people say it is a copyright violation and others disagree. Unfortunately the original discussion has died down with no agreement reached. So in order to seek a wider range of information and hopefully reach a consensus, I'd like to open a discussion here. MK2 15:21, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * The list is certainly copyrightable, regardless of whether it is a poll or not. Since FHM conducted and compiled the poll, they own the copyright to the list. Reproducing the list on Wikipedia without permission would constitute a violation of FHM's copyright. Kaldari 01:44, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * A counterexample that others have given are lists of Academy Award winning actors, Pulitzer Prize winners, or Nobel laureates. These are all lists of people that are basically copying the work of the organizations that gave out the awards. From a legal standpoint, what is the difference between FHM-US's 100 Sexiest Women 2004 and Academy Award for Best Actor? MK2 03:42, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * None of those other examples are analogous because none of those compiled a ranked list that was arranged in a particular order. That an individual has been given an award or honorific constitutes an isolated fact that cannot be copyrighted, and a list of such awards organized chronologically is no more creative than the alphabetical phone book in Feist v. Rural.  What is copyrightable is the compilation of an ordered list of selected individuals.  If FHM did the selecting and arranging in some meaningful way that was creative rather than purely functional, then it may be copyrightable as a whole, though not in isolated references to specific parts.  How was this poll conducted and compiled?  If it was conducted according to standard industry phone sampling, and the list was merely compiled from a numerical tally of those results, then it would likely fail the originality test.  Postdlf 04:04, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Interesting point, but do you think the Oscars, Pulitzers, or Nobel Prizes are awarded based on phone sampling? FHM conducting a self-selected poll of its readers and awarding the highest vote getter the title "Sexiest Woman of 2005" is no different, from a copyright standpoint, than the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts & Sciences conducting a self-selecting poll of its members and awarding the highest vote getter the title "Best Actor". MK2 06:27, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why you're continuing to labor this point, because I had just said mere reporting of any standard phone survey results would not be copyrightable, without some creative editing or intervention in the process. But regardless, you need selection and arrangement to have a copyrightable compilation.  Determining a winner just gets you a selection of one fact—who your winner is—but no arrangement, and independent facts can't be copyrighted, only original arrangements or expressions of facts.  Conducting a poll to get a ranked list gets you selection and arrangement, so the question is then only whether there is some creative editing control over the end result, or some creative step added to the process that isn't merely functional.  Postdlf 06:54, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I think you and I are actually in agreement on this issue. In this particular case, FHM conducted a poll and printed the results - the 100 women who got the most votes ranked in order from the one who got the most votes to the one who got the 100th highest total. So there was essentially no editorial input at this point other than the decision to conduct the poll. Then the magazine added editorial content by selecting pictures and writing short text articles to accompany the results - I think everyone is in agreement that the picture selections and text are copyrightable. So as long as the Wikipedia article only list the names and their ranking it's okay. MK2 02:33, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, we are in agreement on that, if the poll was conducted in that manner. Postdlf 05:16, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Simply compiling the information is not enough. There has to be some element of originality in the selection and arrangement (see Feist v. Rural).  I'd have to know more about how the poll was conducted to really state a conclusion, but it's at best an issue on the outer edge of copyrightability.  I have been unable to find a single court case that has involved an infringement claim based on survey results, btw.  Postdlf 02:16, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * It would be great if instead of having just the lists (which don't really add much; a user interested in this list may as well go to the FHM website and get the pictures too) we have some analysis of the FHM-US lists as they have existed for the past 5 years. Who has appeared every year? Who has highest average position? Some commentary on how the lists were created. Not sure if this would make the copyright problem go away, but it would be more interesting content. Pcb21| Pete 08:21, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * You may want to read below. Providing factual comparisions might skate the line with original research, but may very well meet the needs of Feist v. Rural.--ghost 04:09, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Re original research: The "no original research" policy always used to be about preventing crackpot physics theories turning up as fact on Wikipedia and the recent extension of its intent is harmful. In practice we have to be able to do a modicum of synthesis else everything will be copied from elsewhere. Pcb21| Pete 08:34, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

We appear to have reached another deadlock. Based on the comments posted here and at the original discussion, this is what we have (with my paraphrasing of people's opinions)

Believe the list is protected by copyright:

 * RickK
 * Korath - FHM selected the people on the list and made the order
 * Physchim62 - FHM had creative input into the list
 * Kaldari - copyrightable because FHM conducted the poll

Believe the list is not protected by copyright:

 * MK2
 * Quadell - is not certain
 * Burgundavia - doesn't think a simple list can be copyrighted
 * Postdlf - not copyrightable unless FHM added creative input to the results of the poll

Other

 * Pcb21|Pete - suggesting adding new editorial content
 * ghost - commented on original research policy

MK2 18:09, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

MK2, you appear to have resolved the matter with your summary, for:
 * RickK gave no reason
 * Korath's statement that FHM selected the people on the list and made the order is inaccurate, based on the description of how the list was compiled: was a survey and FHP just used the results of the survey, without reordering to add some creativity.
 * Physchim62, as with Korath, the method used now it's known is presentation of poll data, without selection or reordering by FHM.
 * Kaldari, the sweat of the brow doctriine no longer exists - you don't get copyright for any amount of hard work, only by being creative - see Feist v. Rural and the recommended reading I've just posted: "That this process takes much time and effort is wholly irrelevant to whether the end product of this work is copyrightable".

So, it appears the facts of the case and well established law have resolved reservations of those who gave a reason for thinking it was copyrightable. Jamesday 10:25, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

You can't vote on what the law is! It's like voting on whether gravity keeps us on the planet - a majority vote against it won't make us all float away. Leave it to the experts (in this case, Postdlf). See also Kregos v. Associated Press, 937 F.2d 700 (2d Cir. 1991), holding that a particular selection of factors to gauge the performance of pitchers could not be copyrighted, nor could a mere arrangement of such factors, but a particular arrangement of those specific factors could (e.g. not "A" alone, nor "B" alone, but "A+B" together). Here, we are not copying the arrangement, just the results of applying the particular selection of factors. -- BD2412  talk  23:17, 2005 May 18 (UTC)

It seems to me it's hard to argue it either way. See U.S. Copyright Office - Copyright Basics: What Is Not Protected by Copyright? -- AllyUnion (talk) 09:05, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Having read the comments here so far, it seems to me the list alone is not copyrightable. Here is another way to think about it:  Some organizers had a sort of a contest.  The results were made known, along with a a lot of interesting detail concerning the contestants and the contest itself.  Later, a second party posted the rankings of the contestants.  Did the second party violate the first party's rights in any way?
 * MLB Baseball season rankings   Newspaper
 * FHM Sexiest women rankings     Wikipedia

 * Why is example 2 any different than example 1?

 * However, that the New York Times disagrees with me.  They have pursued action against other publications that have re-published their best-seller list.  For example, they went after www.amazon.com  for using the New York Times bestseller list as a basis for providing purchase incentives (books on the lsit were to be discounted).  This was quickly settled  with Amazon agreeing to certain terms, including; listing the books alphabetically instead of in-order, and sharing sales information with the New York Times.  Since this didn't make it to a legal ruling, it does not set a legal precedent.  Maybe someone can find an example that did go to court?  Johntex 02:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Here's one that might be related. The Court Service-Chancery Division-judgment But I'm no lawyer and it's a UK issue.  It's William Hill bookmakers against the jockey club and the British Horseracing Board over the use of fixtures, racecards and other data held in the form of a database.  I think it's relevant because FHM's information is quite possibly held in a database. However, I don't know whether the publication of the material in FHM negates database extraction.  Do newspapers print the whole list, or do they just mention who's top?   Hiding 19:52, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * In the UK and much of Europe there is something called a database copyright, which covers a substantial collections of facts in a database, granting it a much shorter than usual copyright term. In the US, there is no such database copyright. In the UK, would then have to argue whether this was substantial enough and explain why the BBC gave the full ranked listing. Jamesday 10:25, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

 * OK, I'll bite. Example 1 contains facts which can be verified independent of any newspaper or press service publication (I do not believe MLB can claim ownership of such rankings as they are simply objective facts that can be obtained through a variety of sources). Such rankings are simply a compilation of publicly accessible information. The information in example 2 was collected by a proprietary method. There is no way to independently determine what the contents of that list is except as that information is released by the publication. older ≠ wiser 02:22, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

 * But don't forget example 3 - Feist v. Rural. Company A goes out and collects all the information (name, phone #, address) of everyone in the town, then publishes it in a phone book; company B skips the expense and copies company A's list of names and numbers, arranging them alphabetically (of course, because it's a phone book). The organizer here is company A; the "contest" was getting all the info from the town residents; the method was going door to door and checking who lived where and had what number; and the secondary user was company B. If FHM is just sampling opinions (like Company A gathering info from residents), is that info "authored" by FHM? -- BD2412 talk 06:51, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)

 * For what it's worth, here's how the poll is conducted. FHM announces the existence of the poll in its magazine and on its website. Anyone who wishs to vote can submit up to ten women for inclusion on the list by mail or email. There is no pre-generated list of nominees. FHM does not specifically solicit opinions and does not contact any individuals for their opinions. There is no prohibition against submitting multiple votes. At a certain point, FHM stops the voting and counts up how many votes each woman got. The women are ranked from 1 to 100 based on how many votes they received. FHM publishs the results along with pictures and text. The results (but not the pictures or text) are also released by FHM to the media for promotional purposes. MK2 04:59, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Original to page discussion

 * Having read the comments over at the Village Pump, it seems to me the list alone is not copyrightable. Here is another way to think about it:  Some organizers had a sort of a contest.  The results were made known, along with a a lot of interesting detail concerning the contestants and the contest itself.  Later, a second party posted the rankings of the contestants.  Did the second party violate the first party's rights in any way?
 * MLB Baseball season rankings   Newspaper
 * FHM Sexiest women rankings     Wikipedia

 * Why is example 2 any different than example 1?

 * However, that the New York Times disagrees with me.  They have pursued action against other publications that have re-published their best-seller list.  For example, they went after www.amazon.com  for using the New York Times bestseller list as a basis for providing purchase incentives (books on the lsit were to be discounted).  This was quickly settled  with Amazon agreeing to certain terms, including; listing the books alphabetically instead of in-order, and sharing sales information with the New York Times.  Since this didn't make it to a legal ruling, it does not set a legal precedent.  Maybe someone can find an example that did go to court?  Johntex 02:11, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Worth remembering that you can sue anyone, right or wrong, Amazon didn't need to present them in sorted order, NYT got something Amazon probably didn't care about and both got to walk away without legal bills. :) Jamesday 10:25, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Um, I've seen this article before the blanking, and all it is is a simple list without any sentences whatsoever. How can that be considered copyright infringement? → Jarlaxle Artemis   02:55, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

Just to poke in for the heck of it, I don't really see why this list has any value or use in an encyclopedia?

human 04:53, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't see how it does either. →  Jarlaxle Artemis   00:18, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

 * It does in an encyclopedia which aims to be comprehensive.

Recommended reading
To assist in understanding the copyright status here I recommend reading the decision in CDN Inc. v. Kapes, 197 F.3d 1256 (9th Cir. 1999). Key parts of the decision read: As we've discovered from the way the list is compiled, in the case of the FHM list, FHM in fact exercises no creativity in selection or arrangement, since it's presenting the results of a reader poll without any reordering. Hence, the expert opinion and judgment which made the list of prices copyrightable doesn't exist here. That leaves us with Feist v. Rural and the ineligibility for copyright of a collection of facts without creative input.
 * "That this process takes much time and effort is wholly irrelevant to whether the end product of this work is copyrightable. See Feist, 499 U.S. at 349. The Supreme Court in Feist expressly rejected the "sweat of the brow" theory of copyright which would protect subject matter that was expensive and time-consuming to gather". Feist here is Feist v. Rural, that phone directory case.
 * "Our holding that the prices are copyrightable is consistent with that of the Second Circuit in CCC Info. Servs., Inc. v. Maclean Hunter Mkt. Reports, 44 F.3d 61 (2d Cir. 1994). Maclean Hunter published the Red Book, a list of car values for various regions of the United States. The Red Book listed the editors' projections of the value of different kinds of used cars for six weeks after publication. CCC Information Systems had used these values in compiling its computer databases. Maclean Hunter sued for infringement, and the district court found that the values were facts and as such were not copyrightable. The Second Circuit reversed. The court held that the valuations were not "pre-existing facts that had merely been discovered by the Red Book editors," but instead "represented predictions by the Red Book editors of future prices estimated to cover specified geographic regions." CCC, 44 F.3d at 67. Like CDN's prices, the prices in the Red Book granted copyright protection by the Second Circuit, are "based not only on a multitude of data sources, but also on professional judgment and expertise.""

For more general reading, I recommend the decisions in the Cornell introduction to copyright law.

Based on the legal precedents and the absence of the required modicum of creative input in deciding who should go on the list or in what position, I see no copyright here. If anyone can find some creativity - such as FHM lying about how they produce the list, so they do have creative input, that might change things.

Of course, the magazine issue with the list, photographs description of the people and a specific layout is copyrightable, for those presentation elements are not simply facts. Jamesday 10:25, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Excellent summary. Plain and simple fact is, the results of polls like these are reproduced in secondary media sources all the time, like the gossip and entertainment sections of daily newspapers. The researchers, FHM, are credited there just as they are here. That's enough. 203.173.21.69 21:53, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

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James vs. Ned
The "James Doyle" link as written led to an incorrect personage. There needs to be a separate, new entry for Ned Doyle, who is long dead.

Wow, this is one long piece of marketing copy with no useful information acme 16:27, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I generally agree... There is some merit in listing the awards won and some of the famous ads, but there are a lot of "in recognition of"s and other real sales copy in there that shouldn't be in an Encyclopedia. I found the most important part of the article - ...and holds fast to Bill Bernbach’s founding principle that “Properly practiced creativity can make one ad do the work of ten.” - at the end. And worse, there's NO history of the agency. We skip straight from 1949 to 1986 - must have been a very boring 40 years...

I'd have to agree. For an article about the agency that supposedly single-handedly changed the world of advertising forever, and the people behind the Creative Revolution, this reads horribly like someone from the 2008 PR team wrote it. Maxplanar (talk) 21:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I included the new paragraph at the request of Doris Willens, who described the page about DDB as "appallingly lacking in substance". Michael P. Barnett (talk) 20:42, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Since Doris is a writer and presumably better at that craft than many of us, perhaps she could log in and do something about it herself. - Sticks  66  12:11, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

You know what I hate ?
Since the photo at the top of the page (the one of Maurice Needham shaking of hand of some copywriter while some other bloke smiles cheesily) is at the top of the page, and since Facebook accesses WP content for some of its pages then the thumbnail that any one of DDB's 18,000 employees worldwide have on their FB profile if they list DDB Worldwide as their employer, is that pic. Not a shot of Bill Bernbach, not a shot of Ned Doyle or the more obscure Mac Dane. But a photo of Maurice Needham, a copywriter named Sandy Sulcer and some other bloke. How annoying is that for anyone from DDB ? Though I suppose the Needham, Harper & Steers side of that 28 year ago merger have the last laugh after all !!- Sticks  66  13:06, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

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Talk:Richard Montgomery High School

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Looking over the Julius West page it seems small (to be sure) and also onesided as if a teacher or over enthusiastic staff wrote it. Any one in here feel like helping me out. Im a wiki n00b here so it seems like i could use some help. Im not much of a fact whore so i dont remember much. 69.104.76.195 10:16, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

To the best of my knowledge (as an alum of the IB program, all four years), there is no fighting for 25 spots. Certainly when I was there (1996-2000) as many people got the diploma as were academically able, out of the original 100 or so who were admitted as freshmen. Also, the footnote that follows this statement in the article does not actually support this claim. I am therefore deleting it. Dgrobinson 00:40, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * From what I know, anyone in the MYP program(me) is eligible to apply for the IB program(me) at the end of their sophomore year. Of the people who apply, 25 of them are allowed into IB and the rest go into normal classes. I really don't know how they decide which 25, but it probably involves grades and such. Axem Titanium 04:45, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

How are the 25 people selected ? It also includes the International Baccalaureate Middle Years Programme (MYP), in which freshmen and sophomores take rigorous classes, then fight for 25 spots in the IB program at the end of their sophomore year.

How are these 25 people selected again ? Maybe we should include that in the article--138.88.178.235 21:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Fictional and POV information is repeatedly being replaced here after I have removed it. The following is what I am refering to.

 * Richard Montgomery High School is also noted as the birthplace of the Richard Montgomery Liberation Front, or RMLF. The organization finds its roots in the WGLF movement which began the college debate community. The RMLF began as a political movement led by Vishal Ganesan and Leonard Chang in reponse to the yearly student government elections. After suffering a tragic electoral defeat, the liberation front began to gain a foothold in the IB student body and even gained the sponsorship of renowned English teacher and "It's Academic" team leader Mr. McKenna.
 * An especially important part of the Richard Montgomery lifestyle is to be a part of the Cross Country Team. All of the elite students are on the team, making it one of the prettiest teams in Maryland. They are the 2004 division champions, and will hold that title for many years to come.

Why is this encyclopedic? Please explain before reverting this again. --BaronLarf 02:14, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

Man, the opportunities for spreading stupid in-jokes are certainly much wider now than they were back when I was at RM... john k 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Er, anybody else notice that the Tori Amos external reference incorrectly cites RM as being in Georgetown? Supposedly it's something she wrote. -VJ 21:11, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, I noticed that. Very odd.  Surely she must know it's not in Georgetown.  john k 02:38, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

How the 25 people are selected: They have to be 10th grade Honors or MYP students, and have to be from Richard Montgomery's home district. They are able to get into the IB program in 11th grade by taking a test and getting favorable teacher reccomendations.--72.75.113.204 21:57, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Over-represented POV and Out-of-Date Information
At Richard Montgomery HS, students in the IB Program make up a distinct minority of the students. Why is it, then, that this article almost entirely discusses things related to the IB Program. Two thirds of the section on "academics" refers exclusively to the IB and MYP Programs, and almost all of the "Activities" section describes clubs that are majority IB students. While none of this information needs to be removed, it must be supplemented by more information about the rest of the school. Some information is out of date. Two examples are the statistics for student-faculty ratios, which are from 2003, and the link to US News and World Report refers to an article from several years ago. This information needs to be updated. Jstolove (talk) 14:29, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

No only was the IB program a small school within a school at RM, bu this "history" completely omits the hugely popular and successful vocational education programs that were a hall mark of RM unto 1993. It's as if only the college bound IB kids were/are important. An ex teacher, May 2020) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.86.91.244 (talk) 20:08, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Suburban
I don't understand the claim that RM is in an "urban area." It is in an incorporated city, admittedly, but that doesn't make it urban. Rockville (and all of Montgomery County, for that matter) is pretty clearly a suburb of DC. On what basis is it being claimed to be urban? john k 02:38, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Suburb of DC, yes. Suburban, no. Rockville is definitely a city with industry and stuff, not a bunch of housing developments.I guess it could be more correctly identified as a metropolitan area.--Phixxor 03:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Peter Noone
I find it highly doubtful that the British singer Peter Noone attended high school in the US. His own article says he was educated at schools in Manchester, England. I am deleting his name from the list of alumni.Silchas11 (talk) 14:53, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Fleet Foxes
The drummer went to RM. Evidence: the NPR recording of their show at the black cat, you can hear Josh ask the crowd, in a lull between songs, if anyone went to Richard Montgomery High School. Several 'woooh!'s are audible in response. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.218.195.29 (talk) 04:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I graduated the same year as Josh Tilman (1999). Do I need to break out my old yearbook as a source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.148.14.8 (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Copy edits
Removed some of the unsourced content, particularly in reference to criminal activities, and student mentions. Article still needs major clean-up, and sources to support its many claims. JNW (talk) 23:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Fantano
My god, guys. Check the source. He didn't go there. 2607:FB91:891:1807:C19:ECD:2E34:643 (talk) 22:26, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

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Hot keys
I am not certain but I understood that some of the hot keys defined in staroffice/starwriter have been carried over to general use in other editors/applications?

Operating system
On what operating systems did SO originally run?
 * According to StarOffice: Windows, OS/2, Mac--Hhielscher 01:41, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

StarOffice Logo
Sun is sooooo protective of the logo for StarOffice that there is not even one on their StarOffice product page. The only example of it is on their special logo page with a light grey "Sample" watermark across it (see ). To use the logo you have to submit an application where you that you will abide by the usage guidelines that are on at least three different pages! I'd try to scarf up a logo somewhere off of the internet, except that a quick Google image search suggests that nobody has jumped through all of the hoops to get the approval to use the logo. I could do what several other websites have done, which is to grab the photo of the product box from the StarOffice product page, but right now I'm so pissed at Sun for making it hard to use their logo, that I'd rather not. Blank Verse  ∅  13:41, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

What typefaces?

 * several font metric compatible Unicode TrueType fonts containing bitmap representations for better appearance at smaller font sizes
 * 12 Western fonts and 7 Asian language fonts (including support for the Hong Kong Supplementary character set)

Please add the names of the fonts and link them if they already have an article of their own (see List of typefaces).--Hhielscher 14:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

 * So far I added the fonts that come with the Linux version in English.--Hhielscher 16:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Adabas
Does Star Office still include Adabas? It now includes the Base component, which I would imagine usurps the role (formerly) played by Adabas. Rwxrwxrwx 10:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah they still do; at least in my latest v8. - xpclient  Talk 10:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Is StarOffice still free?
Looks to me like they charge around $70 for this now...but doing a google search for "Free Staroffice" gives a link that allows you to download the same for free...i'm confused —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.22.83.195 (talk • contribs)

 * The History section doesn't make it very clear, but the free version of StarOffice was only offered Sun for about a year. The free open source version of StarOffice is now available as OpenOffice.org. Blank Verse 03:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

StarOffice can be downloaded free of charge as part of the Google Pack. Joshua Issac (talk) 10:17, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Vs. Open Office?
Should something like this section be added to this page?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org#StarOffice It mentions it builds off the OpenOffice code, but doesnt mention what the differences are between them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.68.101.187 (talk • contribs)

 * It could probably be better highlighted, but in the Features section, after "Proprietary components in StarOffice that are not in OpenOffice.org include:" is the list of differences. BlankVerse 08:26, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

StarOffice based on OpenOffice.org?
Hello!

StarOffice is Sun Microsystems' proprietary office suite software package. It is based on the free software/open-source OpenOffice.org, and contains some additional features.

Isn't it the opposite (OOo based on StarOffice)? --212.27.60.48 23:28, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

 * I found the answer in the OpenOffice.org article. I should have read further before asking, sorry. --212.27.60.48 23:32, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

 * That answer is "yes, it's the opposite". I've changed the intro here to that effect. RossPatterson 01:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * As of today, it still reads that SO is based on OO, while the OO page says that OO is based on SO. Which is right? --Jfruh (talk) 16:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

 * The correct answer is that OOo is derived from StarOffice, but that StarOffice is now based on OpenOffice. I've tidied the OOo lead to reflect this. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 17:03, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks! I liked your change to the OOo lead so much, I adapted it for the lead to this article -- I think the relationship needs to be made clear up front, and your encapsulation of it was crystal clear. --Jfruh (talk) 21:12, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

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OS/2
IBM included StarOffice with OS/2 Warp 3.0, did they not? I'm almost certain I remember it being on a set of extra floppies called something like "Bonus Pak". 74.194.87.88 22:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No; the bonus mini office suite was IBM Works, produced by Footprint Software in Toronto. SmarterAlec (talk) 16:45, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

StarOffice Math/StarMath
According to the article, StarOffice Math is no longer included in the StarOffice suite. This is not true. In StarOffice 8 (Product Update 9), one can click File>New>Formula to open StarOffice Math. Joshua Issac (talk) 18:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's right. Changed it. (soffice -math opens it) Also the article doesn't mention with which version, StarSchedule, StarMail and StarDiscussion were last included, when they were discontinued. Anyone can add that? :) - xpclient  Talk 10:26, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

AVSoft
Why is this being mentioned in 'See Also'? Seems like an irrelevant plug that should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.130.6 (talk) 07:54, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Thesaurus
The article implies that there is no thesaurus in OpenOffice.org (see Features -> Proprietary components -> 8th bullet point). My suggestion: "A different spell checker and thesaurus (note that OpenOffice.org includes a spell checker and thesaurus as well)" Doenster (talk) 00:23, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Detailed timeline on de: version
de:StarOffice has a detailed timeline, though annoyingly sparse on references - David Gerard (talk) 14:57, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

History section is a bad joke
"From this time onwards"... that was when? Or are actual years irrelevant in a History section? --jae (talk) 12:46, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

CPC family
I have recherched for the CPC programme versions (Schneider). I did not find any reference to version "1.0", but the program is called "Star-Writer I" (Roman numeric I) in 1995. One year later there was the version "Star-Writer I 3.0" (Manual 3.0 as scan at cpcszene.de) and the same year the version 3.1 (screenshot at cpc-power.com). So there is a somewhat confusing version description, which has changed by the migration from CPC "Star-Writer I" to DOS version "StarWriter 3.2", but what was the correct name or version for Atari version(s)? Actually there ist a discussion to the Schneider versions on the disc-page on german Wiki article. Please help in the search for better and more sources. --H7 (talk) 11:10, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

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Talk:Independent living

I don't understand why the tone of this article is inappropriate for wikipedia. This is a simple straightforward explanation of the discrimination faced by people with disabilities and what the IL movement is all about.

 * i don't know about the tone, but the writing is atrocious. the second paragraph consists of two sentences. one of 41 words and one of 52 words.Toyokuni3 (talk) 20:16, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

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I am a college student that has been studying the Independent Living Movement and I plan on adding more information and citations on Ed Roberts and his experiences at Berkeley that pushed his advances in the ILM. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliviahendry (talk • contribs) 02:13, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zetor

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was: keep rewritten article. sjorford →•← 12:16, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Zetor

 * Delete substub about a "Czech tractor company". If the notability can be established and the article expanded, I'll change my vote. Revolución 02:19, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The Zetor company does exist, if that's what you are wondering. It was originally Soviet-era farm tractor manufacturer from Czechoslovakia and apparently still sells. See also Zetor North America. That's unfortunately all I can say about it. - Skysmith 10:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. If it's known to be a valid topic, it shouldn't be nominated VfD in the first place. Completed writeup of a small article on this.  -- Un  focused  12:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Unfocused, your continuing attacks on comments regarding VfD nominations are not winning you any friends. Neither is your whining on my Talk page.  RickK 18:39, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * Struck out personal attacks, refactored using underline . Note: It is not appropriate to characterize sincere attempts to communicate as "whining" and that is a clear violation of WP:NPA.  Since you won't respond to your talk page, I'm asking you here to please stop. -- Un  focused  18:47, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Stop attacking the motives of people who make VfD listings, and I'll stop deleting your personal attacks. Look, instead of making the attack comment that I crossed out above, all you had to say was, "My Google count is xxx, which, in my view, makes this topic notable."  See the difference?  RickK 20:19, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * Struck out accusations. I have not attacked anyone's motives.  I will consider your suggestion as helpful; however a Google count is often nearly useless.  Reading the first page of Google results, or any one of the first page of hits, should be minimum research before VfD nomination, and I will continue to suggest the same.  However, I will try phrase it more gently.  I would've rather had this entire conversation on either of our talk pages, I wouldn't have cared which.  Please respond when people post complaints on your talk page.  -- Un  focused  20:44, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * RickK, your continuing bullshit is not "winning you any friends" OR showing good practices as an admin. --SPUI (talk) 20:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep According to the website, they've been around since 1946. And a tractor company by its very nature is at least a medium-to-large size organisation.  Keep and expand. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd  13:08, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. -- Fingers-of-Pyrex 13:18, 2005 Jun 1 (UTC)
 * Keep Medium-to-large sized corporations are notable. JBurnham 14:46, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, good informative article now. Ty Unfocused. Kappa 18:37, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are plenty of Zetor tractors in use around the world, and it's a very well-known, almost iconic brand -- for example, there's a theme restaurant in Helsinki, Finland that's been named after Zetor tractors. It's tongue-in-cheek, sure, but it's real. (And, uh, the food's pretty good there, too.) -- Captain Disdain 20:30, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * keep this too please !Yuckfoo 22:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep tractor company with 60 years in existence. Capitalistroadster 00:40, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Article is in good shape thanks to Unfocused. Capitalistroadster 00:42, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.

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Cutter v. Wilkinson

Cutter v. Wilkinson, 544 U.S. 709 (2005), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court held that, under the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act (RLUIPA), facilities that accept federal funds cannot deny prisoners accommodations that are necessary to engage in activities for the practice of their own religious beliefs.

RLUIPA prohibited the federal government from imposing a substantial burden on prisoners' freedom of religion. Five residents of an Ohio prison, which included two adherents of Asatru, a minister of the white supremacist Church of Jesus Christ–Christian,  a Wiccan and a Satanist filed suit. The men stated in federal district court that prison officials violated RLUIPA by failing to accommodate the inmates' exercise of their "nonmainstream" religions. Prison officials argued that the act "improperly advanced religion and thus violated the First Amendment's establishment clause which prohibited government from making laws "respecting an establishment of religion." The district court had originally rejected that argument and ruled for the inmates. The Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals had reversed the decision.

Question presented
Did a federal law prohibiting government from burdening prisoners' religious exercise violate the First Amendment's establishment clause?

Decision of the Court
The Court returned a unanimous opinion, written by Justice Ginsburg, with a concurring opinion by Justice Thomas. Ruling in favor of the inmates, the Court held that, on its face, RLUIPA made an accommodation allowed by the First Amendment. The Court noted that constitutional problems could arise if RLUIPA were "enforced improperly and religious prisoners received favored treatment, or if religious exercise and security concerns were not properly balanced."

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Hyperion Solutions

Hyperion Solutions Corporation was a software company located in Santa Clara, California, which was acquired by Oracle Corporation in 2007. Many of its products were targeted at the business intelligence (BI) and business performance management markets, and were developed and sold as Oracle Hyperion products. Hyperion Solutions was formed from the merger of Hyperion Software (formerly IMRS) and Arbor Software in 1998.

History
Oracle Corporation announced on March 1, 2007 it had agreed to purchase Hyperion Solutions Corporation for $3.3 billion in cash. The transaction was completed on April 18, 2007 and Hyperion now operates as a division of Oracle. Oracle extended support for most Hyperion products (v11.1.2.x) to 2018. Hyperion BI tools were bundled into Oracle Business Intelligence Suite Enterprise Edition.
 * 1981 - IMRS founded by Bob Thomson and Marco Arese
 * 1983 - IMRS launches financial and management consolidation software called "Micro Control"
 * 1985 - IMRS hires Jim Perakis as CEO; he remains in this position during growth from $1M to almost $300M
 * 1991 - IMRS becomes a public company and launches a Windows-based successor to 'Micro Control' called 'Hyperion'
 * 1992 - Arbor Software ships first version of Essbase Online Analytical processing OLAP software
 * 1995 - Due to the success of the "Hyperion" product IMRS changes name to "Hyperion Software Corporation" and the name of the product is changed to "Hyperion Enterprise." Arbor becomes a publicly held company
 * 1997 - Arbor acquires Appsource
 * 1998 - Hyperion Software merges with Arbor and the combined company is renamed Hyperion Solutions
 * 1999 - Jeffrey Rodek named as Hyperion Chairman and CEO of Hyperion. Hyperion acquires Sapling Corporation (Enterprise Performance Management applications)
 * 2001 - Godfrey Sullivan is named Hyperion President and COO
 * 2003 - Hyperion acquires Brio Technology and The Alcar Group
 * 2004 - Hyperion names Jeffrey Rodek Executive Chairman; Godfrey Sullivan President and CEO
 * 2005 - Hyperion acquires Razza Solutions (Master data management) and appoints Northdoor as a reseller in the UK and Ireland.
 * 2006 - Hyperion acquires UpStream (Financial Data Quality Management)
 * 2006 - Hyperion acquires Beatware (Data visualization for Web and Mobile Devices)
 * 2007 - Hyperion acquired Decisioneering (Crystal Ball software).

Market
Vendors in the business intelligence space are often categorized into:
 * The consolidated big four "megavendors", which include Oracle Hyperion as well as SAP BusinessObjects, IBM Cognos, and Microsoft BI.
 * The independent "pure-play" vendors, the largest being MicroStrategy, Tableau, QlikView and SAS.

BI market surveys and analyses include:
 * Gartner's BI Magic Quadrant - In 2007, Gartner placed Hyperion in its "Leader" quadrant for both Business Intelligence Platforms and Corporate Performance Management.
 * Business Application Research Center (BARC)'s The BI Survey and The BI Verdict (formerly The OLAP Report)

Products
Hyperion software products included:
 * Essbase
 * Hyperion Intelligence and SQR Production Reporting (products acquired in 2003 takeover of Brio Technology)
 * Hyperion Enterprise
 * Hyperion Planning
 * Hyperion Strategic Finance
 * Hyperion Financial Data Management
 * Hyperion Enterprise Performance Management Architect
 * Hyperion Financial Close Management
 * Hyperion Account Reconciliation
 * Hyperion Disclosure Management
 * Hyperion Performance Scorecard
 * Hyperion Business Modelling
 * Hyperion Financial Management
 * Hyperion Master Data Management/Oracle Data Relationship Management
 * Hyperion Financial Reporting
 * Hyperion Web Analysis
 * Hyperion SmartView
 * Hyperion EPM Workspace
 * Hyperion Profitability and Cost Management
 * Hyperion System 9 BI+ (a combination of Interactive Reporting, SQR, Web Analysis, Financial Reporting, EPM Workspace and SmartView)
 * Hyperion Financial Data Quality Management (also referred to as FDMEE, for Enterprise Edition)
 * Hyperion Tax Provision
 * Planning Budgeting Cloud Service
 * Enterprise Performance Reporting Cloud Service

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Trademark Official Gazette

The Trademark Official Gazette (TMOG) is a weekly publication of the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) which publishes newly registered trademarks. Once a trademark application has been examined by a USPTO examining attorney and found to be entitled to registration, it is published in the Official Gazette of the USPTO.

Overview
The Official Gazette provides anyone who believes they would be damaged by the registration of a published mark with an opportunity to challenge the proposed registration. Upon its publication, anyone who believes that the registering party's use of the mark might damage him or her has 30 days in which to file an opposition to the registration. If such an opposition is made, the registering party will be informed and then must fight it or abandon the trademark. If no oppositions are filed, or if any opposition is successfully overcome, the application will proceed to registration.

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On September 24, 2013, a new web-based version of the Trademark Official Gazette was made available to the general public; the last paper edition of the Trademark Official Gazette, published by the Government Printing Office, was the December 25, 2012 edition.

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