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Austrian Football Bundesliga

The Bundesliga (Bundesliga, "Federal League"), also known as Admiral Bundesliga for sponsorship reasons, is the top level of the Austrian football league system. The competition decides the Austrian national football champions, as well the country's entrants for the various European cups run by UEFA.

The Austrian Bundesliga, which began in the 1974–75 season, has been a separate registered association since 1 December 1991. It has been won the most by the two Viennese giants Austria Wien, who were national champions 24 times, and Rapid Wien, who won the national title 32 times. The current champions are SK Sturm Graz. Phillip Thonhauser is president of the Austrian Bundesliga. The Austrian Football Bundesliga is currently known as Admiral Bundesliga for sponsorship reasons.

1900–1938
Football has been played in Austria since around 1890. Around the turn of the twentieth century two attempts were made to start a national championship. From 1900 onwards, a cup competition was played in Vienna, the Neues Wiener Tagblatt Pokal. This cup was actually played in league format. The efforts to create a football league succeeded in 1911, with the introduction of the first Austrian football championship. The competition for this championship, the ''1. Klasse (First Class), was created and organized by the Niederösterreichischer Fußball-Verband (the Lower Austrian Football Federation), and the participants played for the title of Niederösterreichische Landesmeister'' (Lower Austrian National Champion). From 1924, the league was considered professional and changed its name to I. Liga (First League). In 1929, an all-Austrian amateur championship was first played, won by Grazer AK. Clubs from the professional league in Vienna were not part of this competition. Teams from the other states of Austria were first allowed to join the highest division with the introduction of the Nationalliga (National League) in the season of 1937–38.

1938–1945
Austria's annexation by Germany in 1938 brought the Austrian Nationalliga to an early end. Numerous teams were disbanded and some players fled out of the country. The Austrian Nationalliga was integrated into the system of the NSRL, the Sports office of the Third Reich as the Gau XVII section under Gaufachwart Hans Janisch. Despised by Nazis as unworthy of a true German, professionalism in sports was outlawed in May 1938. "Innovations" like the Hitler salute were introduced as compulsory before and after every game. Teams, like Hakoah Wien were banned and others, like Austria Wien were first closed and then renamed. Finally, the operation of the junior teams was handed over to the local Hitlerjugend units. The new highest league in what had been Austria, the Gauliga Ostmark, was an amateur league and covered the whole of the former country except Tyrol and Vorarlberg, which were added to the Bavarian league system. The league champions now qualified for the German football championship, which Rapid Wien won in 1941. From 1941, the league was renamed Gauliga Donau-Alpenland to further eradicate the memory of Austria as an independent country. Following Nazi Germany's defeat in World War II and the disbandment of the NSRL, Austria's teams were excluded again from the German league.

1945–1974
The league returned to a Vienna-only format in 1945, briefly named ''1. Klasse once more before changing to just Liga'' in 1946. Only upon the introduction of the all-Austrian Staatsliga A in 1949 did teams from the whole federal territory finally play for the Austrian Championship. However, the road to organising the Staatsliga proved difficult. A conflict between the representatives of the amateur and the professional aspects of the sport led to the separation of the Viennese league from the football federation, and to the establishment of its own competition on 30 June 1949. At the statutory Presidential Election Council of the Austrian Football Association only a few days later a surprising turn took place – upon the request of Lower Austria, the introduction of the Staatsliga was finally and unanimously confirmed. The organization was in the hands of the Fußballstaatsliga Österreich, created for this purpose. A Staatsliga B, the second division of national league football, was formed in 1950. This league, however, was disbanded again in 1959, whereby the Staatsliga A dropped the A from its name, the need for differentiating having been gone. In 1965, however, the Austrian Football Association again took over the organization of the top division, with the (second) introduction of the Nationalliga. On 21 April 1974, against the vote of the Vorarlberg association, the introduction of the Bundesliga was decided. The Nationalliga remained as the second division, for now.

1974 to current
In the 1974–75 season the Bundesliga was introduced which, still led by the Austrian Football Association, aligned both of the highest divisions in Austria. In 1976, the Nationalliga was renamed to Bundesliga – Second Division while the Bundesliga was now called Bundesliga – First Division. From 1974 to 1982 the league operated with ten clubs with each club playing the other four times during the season. From 1982 to 1985 it played with sixteen clubs with each club playing the others twice. The league's modus was changed in 1985 to a twelve team league which played a home -and away round in autumn. The top eight clubs then advanced to the championship round (Officially: Oberes Play-off) who again played each other twice. The bottom four of the autumn round played the top four of the First League to determine the four teams to play in the Bundesliga in the following season. This modus was used for the next eight seasons until 1993 when the league returned to the ten team format it originally operated in. 26 years after dissolution of the independent Staatsliga on 17 November 1991, the Austrian Football Bundesliga was reconstituted as a federation and admitted on 1 December 1991 to the Austrian Football Association as its 10th member. Beginning with the 2018-19 season the league expanded from its current 10 teams to 12 teams.

Tasks and legal form
Since 1991 the Bundesliga has carried its own responsibility as a separate association, and organises the championships of the two highest divisions in Austria. Both are named after their sponsors; since 2014 the Bundesliga is named after sports-betting company, Tipico. The second division, called the "Erste Liga" or "First League," is sponsored by Sky Go. In addition the Bundesliga is responsible for the Toto Jugendliga, leagues for under 15/17/19 teams of professional clubs and academies. The Bundesliga also represents professional football in Austria, in co-operation with the football clubs themselves. The Bundesliga is legally a non-profit organisation. The twenty teams of the Tipico Bundesliga and the Sky Go Erste Liga constitute the members of the Bundesliga. The Bundesliga is represented by an acting executive committee, which supports a supervisory board. Each association of the two professional leagues is represented in presidential conferences; these have advisory function in all affairs concerning the Bundesliga.

Scopes of responsibility of the senates
The 'senates' are organising committees which consist of honorary and committee-members independent of the clubs. The first senate is responsible for suspensions and for the running of championship games. The second senate functions as an arbitration board for financial disagreements, the third senate is responsible for all financial concerns and the fourth senate is the panel of referees for the Bundesliga. The evaluation of a club's economic competency which is required in order to obtain a playing license for the two professional leagues takes place at the fifth senate, the Bundesliga license committee.

Format
In the Bundesliga, twelve teams play a double round-robin schedule, with each team playing every other twice at home and twice away during a championship year, which is divided into an autumn and a spring season. The season typically lasts from July to June of the following year. At the end of the season, the team finishing in last place in the table is relegated to the Admiral 2. Liga, the champion of which is promoted to the Admiral Bundesliga.

Tiebreakers
In the event of two teams having the same number of points, tiebreakers to determine league position are as follows:
 * 1) Head-to-Head Match Statistics (Number of points, Goal difference, goals scored) If several teams are equal on points, an internal table of all head-to-head matches will be created.
 * 2) Higher Goal Difference
 * 3) Higher Number of Goals Scored
 * 4) Higher Number of Victories
 * 5) Higher Number of Away Victories
 * 6) Higher Number of Goals Scored in Away Games

Qualification for European Competitions

 * The Bundesliga champion qualifies for the group stage of the UEFA Champions League
 * The Runner-Up enters the UEFA Champions League in the 2nd Qualifying Round (League Path)
 * The 3rd Place team enters the UEFA Europa League in the 2nd Qualifying Round
 * The winner of the Europa Conference League Playoffs qualifies for the 2nd Qualifying Round of the UEFA Europa Conference League

The winner of the Austrian Cup competition qualifies for the Playoff Round of the UEFA Europa League. In the event that the Bundesliga champion is also the Austrian Cup winner, the fourth-placed team in the Bundesliga enters the UEFA Europa League in the 2nd Qualifying Round, and the 3rd Place team enters in the Playoff Round.

Seasons by club
This is the complete list of the clubs that have taken part in at least one Austrian Football Bundesliga season, founded in 1974, until the 2024–25 season. Teams that currently play are indicated in bold.

 * 51 season: FK Austria Wien, SK Rapid Wien, SK Sturm Graz (2025)
 * 46 season: FC Red Bull Salzburg (2025)
 * 41 season: Admira Wacker Mödling (2022)
 * 35 season: FC Wacker Innsbruck/ FC Swarovski Tirol/ FC Tirol Innsbruck/FC Wacker Innsbruck (2019)
 * 34 season: LASK (2025)
 * 28 season: Grazer AK (2025)
 * 23 season: SV Ried (2023)
 * 18 season: VÖEST Linz/VOEST Linz/FC Stahl Linz/FC Linz (1997)
 * 15 season: Wiener Sport-Club (1994), SV Mattersburg (2020), FC Kärnten/ SK Austria Klagenfurt (2025)
 * 14 season: SC Rheindorf Altach (2025)
 * 13 season: Wolfsberger AC (2025)
 * 12 season: First Vienna FC (1992)
 * 11 season: VSE Sankt Pölten/SKN St. Pölten (2021)
 * 9 season: SK Vorwärts Steyr (1999)
 * 8 season: ASKÖ Pasching/SK Austria Kärnten (2010)
 * 7 season: SC Eisenstadt (1987), TSV Hartberg (2025)
 * 6 season: Schwarz-Weiß Bregenz (2005), WSG Tirol (2025)
 * 5 season: 1. Wiener Neustadter SC (2015), SC Austria Lustenau (2024)
 * 4 season: DSV Leoben (1992), VfB Mödling (1995), Kapfenberger SV (2012)
 * 3 season: Kremser SC (1992), SV Grödig (2016)
 * 2 season: SC Neusiedl am See 1919 (1984), FC Union Wels (1984), Favoritner AC (1985), FC Blau-Weiß Linz (2025)
 * 1 season: 1. Simmeringer SC (1983), FC St. Veit (1984), SV Spittal (1985), Salzburger AK 1914 (1986)

Performance by club
Notes:
 * † All teams are defunct clubs from Innsbruck, Tirol. Wacker Innsbruck (1915–99), Swarovski Tirol (1986–92) and Tirol Innsbruck (1993–02). They are considered to be the continuation of the each other.
 * ‡ The Red Bull company bought the club on 6 April 2005 and rebranded it. Prior to 2005 the team was known as SV Austria Salzburg or Casino Salzburg. They also changed the colours from white-violet to red-white. The Violet-Whites ultimately formed a new club, Austria Salzburg.
 * Admira Wacker Mödling was formed after the merger of SK Admira Wien and SC Wacker Wien in 1971, under the name of Admira Wacker Wien, the merge with VfB Mödling in 1997 and the merge with SK Schwadorf in 2008. The new team play in Mödling.

UEFA coefficients
The following data indicates Austrian coefficient rankings between European football leagues.

UEFA League Ranking as of 15 March 2019:
 * Country ranking:
 * 9. (11) 🏴 Scottish Football Association (29.000)
 * 10. (10) 🇦🇹 Austrian Football Bundesliga (28.450)
 * 11. (12) 🇺🇦 Ukrainian Association of Football (28.400)
 * 12. (9) 🇧🇪 Royal Belgian Football Association (24.800)
 * 13. (16)  Football Association of Serbia (23.875)

UEFA 5-year Club Ranking as of 8 July 2021:
 * Club ranking:
 * 22. Red Bull Salzburg (57.000)
 * 54. LASK (23.000)
 * 93. Rapid Wien (14.500)
 * 111. Wolfsberger AC (11.000)
 * 138. FK Austria Wien (7.500)

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Portland–Troutdale Airport

Troutdale Airport, also known as Troutdale-Portland Airport, is a corporate, general aviation, and flight-training airport serving the city of Troutdale, in Multnomah County, Oregon, United States. It is one of three airports in the Portland metropolitan area owned and operated by the Port of Portland. Troutdale Airport was established in 1920 as a private airfield, then purchased by the Port of Portland in 1942. It serves as a reliever airport for nearby Portland International Airport (PDX).

Located in North Troutdale, and east of Portland, and south of Troutdale Reynolds Industrial park. Northeast of Fairview and Wood Village, and East of Interlachen and North Gresham. The airport includes a Federal Aviation Administration contract control tower, one paved runway, hangars, fueling facilities, a helipad, and a small passenger terminal. Troutdale Airport is often referred to by its IATA airport code, TTD.

Operations
Located in Portland's eastern Multnomah County suburbs, Troutdale Airport is connected to the metropolitan area by TriMet buses. The primary public access point is NW Frontage Road on the south side of the airport. Facilities include a 5399 x runway (Rwy 07/25 - 5400' x 150'), Taxiway (Twys A, B - 50' wide) and a FAA control tower, hangars, fueling facilities, a helipad, and a small main passenger terminal. The main terminal includes airport offices and a waiting area.

The airport was purchased by the Port of Portland in 1942, and is serving as a reliever airport for nearby Portland International Airport (PDX). It has been developed to support all forms of general aviation and is home to four fixed-base operator (FBO), several limited FBOs, flight schools, and aircraft repair and maintenance facilities.

It is also the operating base for Envi Adventures, which provides air tours and charter flights.

Services

 * Envi Adventures
 * Advanced Aircraft Services
 * Premier Aircraft Engines
 * Emerald Aircrafters
 * Hillsboro Aviation

Facilities and aircraft
Portland–Troutdale Airport covers an area of 284 acre at an elevation of 39 ft above mean sea level. It has one runway designated 7/25 with an asphalt surface measuring 5399 x, with a weight bearing capacity of 19,000 lbs for runway 7/25 and taxiways A and B.

Accidents and incidents

 * On August 12, 1962, at about 4 am, United Air Lines Flight 861, a scheduled flight from Chicago to Portland, inadvertently landed at Troutdale airport. As the plane broke from cloud cover, Captain S.R. Whipple, a senior pilot flying for United for more than 25 years, saw the runway directly in front of him. As he was already cleared to land by the Portland tower, Whipple mistook the lights of the Troutdale airport for Portland International Airport and landed on Troutdale's 4,630-foot long runway. No passenger injuries and no aircraft damage was reported. The 81 perplexed passengers disembarked shortly after their unexpected landing in Troutdale and were transported with their luggage to the Portland airport, approximately 11 miles away. However, deplaning was delayed as passengers and crew waited for boarding stairs to arrive from Portland airport. United Air Lines determined that the DC-8 could take off from the 4,600-foot airstrip in Troutdale, and brought in a pilot, Bartlett Stephens, from Seattle to handle the task. The fuel in the DC-8 was pumped nearly empty, leaving just enough to ferry the aircraft to Portland International Airport, and everything not bolted to the plane was removed. A fence was taken down and some of the grass burned to extend the runway for the aicraft to take off. The plane was positioned as far back as possible on runway 25, leaving its tail hanging out across Northeast Graham Road. After the aircraft and airport were prepared, pilot Stephens began the take-off roll at approximately 12:15 pm. The plane took off without incident and rotated a little over halfway down the runway. A few minutes later the DC-8 touched down at Portland International Airport, its intended destination. Following the incident, United Airlines was quoted in the Oregonian newspaper stating the company was conducting an investigation and that Captain Whipple had been grounded pending the outcome. A few days later, the Federal Aviation Administration suspended Captain Whipple’s license for 30 days and suspended the co-pilot for two weeks.
 * On June 30, 2017, a Robinson R22 helicopter was damaged while performing an emergency landing during training. The pilot lost control of the helicopter's tail rotor as a result of the helicopter slowing down too quickly, the helicopter plummeted to the ground, and rolled over. The aircraft was declared a total loss, but there were no injuries reported.
 * On 10 May 1958, a Boeing Stratoliner S.307,
 * registered N75385, being operated by Quaker City Airways was taken out of storage at Troutdale Airport and prepared for a ferry flight to determine fuel and oil consumption. The auxiliary gasoline tanks that were installed in the cabin were not tested prior to the flight, despite there being fuel leaks of an undefined source. During the flight, there was a blast in the fuselage and fire could be seen coming from the accessory compartment. A forced landing was carried out on an elevated plain with grass-covered boulders; the plane went up in flames resulting in its loss. This plane was one of ten built of this specific model, with this being the second loss of this aircraft type. There were no reported injuries.

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Charles Greenlay

Charles Edwin Greenlay (June 8, 1899 in High Bluff, Manitoba – May 27, 1984) was a politician in Manitoba, Canada. He served in the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba from 1943 to 1959, and was a cabinet minister in the governments of Stuart Garson and Douglas Campbell.

Early life
Born at High Bluff, on 8 June 1899, son of Gardner Greenlay and Eliza Donnelly, he was educated at High Bluff and the Portage Collegiate Institute. He ran a garage at High Bluff until 1930, when he entered political life. On 8 November 1930, he married Gladys B. Northcott, daughter of George H. Northcott, of Portage la Prairie. Together they had three children: Norma, Gayle, and Andrew. He was also active member of the Methodist Church, and was instrumental in the formation of the United Church in Portage la Prairie, Manitoba.

Political life
Greenlay first entered political life in 1930 as the Secretary-Treasurer of the Rural Municipality of Portage la Prairie. In 1943, persuaded by his childhood friend, Douglas Lloyd Campbell, to pursue provincial politics, he was first elected to the Manitoba legislature in a by-election held on November 18, 1943, replacing Toby Sexsmith. At this time, Manitoba was governed by a coalition of Liberal-Progressives and Conservatives. Running in Portage la Prairie, Greenlay easily won election as a pro-coalition Conservative. Shortly after his election, the Conservatives renamed themselves as Progressive Conservatives.

Greenlay was re-elected as a coalition Progressive Conservative in the general election of 1945, defeating opponents from the Cooperative Commonwealth Federation and Labour Progressive Party. On February 14, 1946, he was appointed to Stuart Garson's cabinet as Provincial Secretary. When Douglas Campbell replaced Garson as Premier of Manitoba on December 14, 1948, he named Greenlay as his Minister of Labour. Greenlay would hold this portfolio until 1958, usually in tandem with other ministerial responsibilities.

Greenlay was re-elected without opposition in the 1949 provincial election. The following year, the Progressive Conservatives left the coalition government to sit on the opposition benches. Greenlay opposed this decision, and left the Progressive Conservatives to sit as a Liberal-Progressive. He was named Provincial Secretary again on February 13, 1950, also retaining the Minister of Labour portfolio.

Greenlay was re-elected as a Liberal-Progressive in the 1953 election, defeating his Progressive Conservative opponent by 324 votes. After a cabinet shuffle on September 4, 1953, he was named Minister of Mines and Natural Resources. During this time, he was instrumental in the leadership to create a recreational area for all Manitobans to enjoy, the Whiteshell Provincial Park. On July 6, 1956, he was promoted to Provincial Treasurer.

The Liberal-Progressives were defeated by the Progressive Conservatives in the 1958 provincial election, although Greenlay was re-elected in Portage la Prairie with an increased majority. In the 1959 election, however, he lost his seat to Progressive Conservative candidate John Christianson by 473 votes. Manitoba CCF leader Lloyd Stinson once described Greenlay as "a mild, quiet little man, not lacking in ability but essentially cautious and stubborn". Likeable on a personal level, he was a very conservative administrator. His decision to switch parties in 1950 was met with little controversy.

Later life
Following his defeat to J. A. Christianson in the 1959 general election, he returned to municipal government as Secretary-Treasurer of the Municipality of Charleswood, serving there until retirement in 1968. Upon retiring, Greenlay and his wife, Gladys, relocated back to Portage la Prairie, where he lived until his death in 1984. During his entire life, Greenlay maintained a cottage at Delta Beach, where he enjoyed fishing, hunting, as well as entertaining many friends and family.

He died in Portage la Prairie at the age of 84.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Death Mark

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The result of the debate was DELETE. With so little debate, this essentially comes down to numbers and it's below the guidance of two-thirds. However, "Death Mark" is not an also-known-as for Dark Mark and is simply an invented term, all of the content is already at Dark Mark and we do not retain redirects for made-up versions of things. -Splash 21:57, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Death Mark
There is no such thing in the Harry Potter books as the Death Mark, there is only the Dark Mark. --Drak2 22:43, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Delete I've never heard of it refered to as that either. --bjwebb 18:21, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Delete. You're right, it's Dark Mark, not death mark. EvilPhoenix 04:21, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Merge and Redirect Merge with Dark Mark (if anything in here, that is not in Dark Mark) and set up redirect --michael180 19:46, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Orphaned nom; adding it to today's page now. Merge and redirect as above.  JYolkowski // talk 18:16, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
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M.A.T.

M.A.T. or MAT may refer to:

 * Master of Arts in Teaching, a graduate degree in teaching
 * Mission Against Terror, a 2011 video game
 * Muzzle action trigger, often used in the US military and ROTC rifle programs
 * Multi-Axis Trainer, another name for an Aerotrim

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Popover

A popover is a light roll made from an egg batter similar to that of Yorkshire pudding, typically baked in muffin tins or dedicated popover pans, which have straight-walled sides rather than angled.

Popovers may be served either as a sweet, topped with fruit and whipped cream; or, butter and jam for breakfast; or, with afternoon tea; or, with meats at lunch and dinner.

Name
The name "popover" comes from the fact that the batter swells or "pops" over the top of the tin while baking. Popovers are also known as Laplanders.

History
The popover is an American version of Yorkshire pudding and similar batter puddings made in England since the 17th century,

The oldest known reference to popovers dates to 1850. The first cookbook to print a recipe for popovers was in 1876.

A variant of popovers with garlic and herbs is called Portland (Oregon) popover pudding. Other American popover variations include replacing some of the flour with pumpkin puree and adding spices such as allspice or nutmeg. Most American popovers today, however, are not flavored with meat or herbs. Instead, they have a buttery taste.

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User:Pekinensis

I am a man with a dog.

In the abstract, I prefer good over evil.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Amdor

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John Amdor
Vanity & insignificant Kingturtle 22:47, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn vanity. - Etacar11 23:43, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete worthless vanity--Sophitus 10:11, May 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete — Nothing really distinguishing. — RJH 14:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep!!!
 * Delete. Non-notable.  Quale 15:32, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
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Talk:Environmental consulting

NPOV?
This page's current incarnation looks like someone venting, rather than an encyclopedia article. Is there any significant amount of encyclopedic content that could logically go here, rather than under Environmental law or Consulting or Compliance (regulation)? --Quuxplusone 22:48, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm a neutral party that got here by the "Random Page" link...nothing looks out of the ordinary. Leave it alone, I say. --Zpb52 01:24, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)

"True Environmental Consultants should have a undergraduate degree at the minimum and a master's degree" - seems rather subjective

Unsourced Info
"If an environmental problem is discovered property owners that deem themselves a responsible party will most likely reserve monies in escrow in order to resolve the environmental impact." Huh? This is unsourced and, in my experience as a consultant, untrue. Can someone verify this info? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CPitt76 (talk • contribs) 06:31, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Proposed merge
A green consultant is different from an environmental consultant. A E.C. works with mitigation for cleanup. A G.C. helps a businness green up it's operation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Centennialgreen (talk • contribs) 04:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I propose a merge of Green Consulting into Environmental consulting. Neither article is great, but the two areas are not distinct enough to warrant separate articles, and Green Consulting is too much of a vague neologism. Fences &  Windows  03:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

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Talk:Trade Federation Cruiser

If the evil Separatist leader is not stopped, he will broadcast the holo-image of the captive Supreme Chancellor Palpatine around the galaxy to crush Loyalist morale. Might be a bit silly, but doesn't Wikipedia aim to be neutral? Doesn't sound too neutral to me. :P

A Blend of Droid Control Ship and Death Star?
Does the Trade Federation Cruiser, The Invisible Hand control the Separatist Droid Armies and destroy planets? --206.255.32.51 04:25, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The Federation Cruiser is more or less a takeoff flagship for the Separatist fleet. It can better be described as a "Separatist Star Destroyer". The Invisible Hand has docking bays at both sides where droid fighters, such as vulture droids, can exit and fight the republic craft. It is no match for the awesome size and power of the mighty Death Star. And no, it cannot destroy planets. The ships that control the droid armies are those ships with the round balls at the center and the rings around them; I believe they are called the droid control ships. One was destroyed in episode I and all the droids on the ground became dysfunctional. It couldn't destroy planets either.

Agent js03 14:35, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Need Visual Information
I build models as a hobby and I'd like to build a model of this. There are no kits anywhere so I thought I'd build it from scratch. I can't find any die-cast toys or anything to work off of, and there are very limited pictures of it on the web. Does anybody know where I can find a picture of the top, bottom, sides, front and back of this ship? I am having no luck as it is!

Thanks.

Agent js03 14:30, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Possible Error In Classification?
To me, the size, shape and graphic appearance of this ship rank it as a (variation on) the Dreadnaught featured amongst others in the Star Wars computer game "X-Wing Alliance".

 * Plausible enough but AFAIK there are no canon sources about it; and anyway, the major source of information on pre-Empire dreadnaughts is the Katana Fleet which was being developed during the Clone Wars, so it is kind of unlikely except for a common precursor. --maru (talk) contribs 21:22, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Paul Foster Case

Original note: So far this is just the beginnings of a brief sketch based on information available from lvx.org and bota.org. It needs to be finished and fleshed out.

1/4/2005: So more of the fleshing out has been done. It remains to add in the references to bits of Case's history. Lee Moffit's bio-page on Case does have some cryptic footnotes that could be used. But they wouldn't meet wiki standards.

Some of the links off of Case's page also need to be filled in.

The portions of Case's work that have fallen into the public domain could be added to the wikibook collection and links could be added (Kybalion, TIRO, his magazine articles Secret Doctrines of the Tarot, etc.)

Adding some photographs would be nice too. Does anyone know who hold the copyright on the original photos kept at bota.org? I know they're used elsewhere, but Wiki's standard prohibits copyrighted material without license.

I have some photos of Paul Case and will scan and upload one or two to the page. I also have access to biographical information that is distinct from Lee Moffitt's outline and will endeavor to flesh out some details as time permits. Perseverantia 19:06, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the previous long discussion on Critical Thinking as it seemed redundant after moving the section on Master R to a new "Alleged Influence" section in the article.Horsechestnut (talk) 05:14, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

The name of the man who probably wrote The Kybalion with Paul Foster Case is William Walker Atkinson, not William A. Atkinson, as we can see on the main page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruno.carnaes (talk • contribs) 20:09, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

The section about Master R and the Theosophical Tradition is far too long, in my opinion. It is almost as long as the biography of Paul Foster Case itself. I suggest a short summary, letting people read the wikipedia article about Theosophy themselves via the highlighted link earlier in the Significant Influences section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Horsechestnut (talk • contribs) 20:32, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

I have added references to a recent biography of Case, so one can at least look the points up. I have also added reference to some of Case's lessons that were published in book form. Whitjr (talk) 19:01, 17 February 2016 (UTC) whitjr 17feb16

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Inga Muscio

Inga Muscio (born c. 1966) is an American feminist, writer and public speaker. Her books include Cunt: A Declaration of Independence (1998) and Rose: Love in Violent Times (2010).

Work
Muscio's book, Cunt: A Declaration of Independence (Seal Press, 1998), calls for women to break down boundaries between themselves, their bodies, and each other. The book was given the 1999 Firecracker Alternative Book Award for Nonfiction.

Her book Autobiography of a Blue-Eyed Devil: My Life and Times in a Racist Imperialist Society (Seal Press, 2005) examines and critiques white privilege, racism, and colonialism among other issues.

Her third book, Rose: Love in Violent Times (Seven Stories Press, 2010), examines the presence of passive and physical violence in our daily lives and describes how we might find love within this violence.

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Modern Love (poetry collection)

Modern Love by George Meredith is a sequence of fifty 16-line sonnets about the failure of a marriage, an episodic verse narrative that has been described as "a novella in verse". Earlier working titles for the sequence were "The Love-Match" and then "The Tragedy of Modern Love". It first appeared in 1862 as part of the volume Modern Love and Poems of the English Roadside, published by Chapman & Hall, and then thirty years later, with slight modifications, from Macmillan.

Context
Modern Love reflects in part Meredith's own disillusionment after his wife Mary Ellen, the widowed daughter of Thomas Love Peacock, left him for the painter Henry Wallis and had a child by him. The poem was not written until after her death in 1861, however, and cannot be regarded as autobiographical. Though it may depend emotionally on past feelings, details in the story-line differ in many respects from the biographical experience of both Meredith and his wife. In the poem the couple realise that their marriage is not working but jointly make a social pretence that suggests otherwise. Afterwards, and separately, they become sexually involved outside the marriage but eventually come together again. When this effort to repair the relationship fails, the wife poisons herself.

Meredith described his work to a correspondent as "a dissection of the sentimental passion of these days". It appeared in the context of other large-scale Victorian depictions of contemporary relationships, such as Elizabeth Barrett Browning's Aurora Leigh (1856) and Coventry Patmore's The Angel in the House (1854/1862). In his 1891 bibliographical reprint of Meredith's poem, however, what seemed significant to Thomas Bird Mosher was that it had followed shortly after mediaevalising works like William Morris's The Defence of Guinevere (1858), Algernon Charles Swinburne's verse dramas The Queen-Mother and Rosamond (1860) and Dante Gabriel Rossetti's translations of The Early Italian Poets (1861). But Meredith seems to occupy a middle ground, for while his story of the failing marriage is set in the present day, his poetic form, his frequent archaisms, the ironical address with which he ends sonnet 30 – "Lady, this is my Sonnet to your eyes" – all call to mind the Elizabethan amatory sequence. And this, in the eyes of one female critic, is evidence of the masterly way in which Meredith matches form to content throughout the poem "by a recurrent opposition of sincerity to artifice".

In form, each 'sonnet' comprises four sets of internally rhyming quatrains, where the final quatrain either sums up the poem's drift or else serves as a turning point that takes the meaning in a new direction. In this way it corresponds roughly to the final couplet of the conventional Shakespearian sonnet. It was suggested to Meredith at the time that the form was modelled on the Italian caudate sonnet and, although he was dismissive of this attempt to find an orthodox ancestry for his work, the possibility continues to be discussed. Rather than continuity, the poet's theme is disruption within the marriage and this is further mirrored in disruption of the normal iambic pentameter within lines, especially by breaking up the narrative with frequent caesuras and enjambing the sense over lines.

Often ambiguous in any case, the meaning is made harder to follow because of the confusion over whether it is the voice of the narrator or the husband's inner dialogue we are hearing. A further level of ambiguity occurs in the different linguistic registers of wording, often in close proximity to each other, which make the author's intention unclear. In the third quatrain of sonnet 50, for example, the archaic word 'dole' in the line "Deep questioning, which probes to endless dole," is followed immediately by the alliterating colloquialism of "Ah, what a dusty answer gets the soul": a prosaic response to the poetic. In similar fashion, the "tragic hints" thundering oceanically in the final stanza leave no more than a "faint thin line upon the shore".

Themes
The sequence is an early example of mid-Victorian questioning of the values of its time, in this case by examining the interpersonal tensions of a loveless marriage from which the partners cannot escape because of the contemporary legal restrictions on divorce. As a novelist, Meredith had already used the failure of his own marriage as material for The Ordeal of Richard Feverel (1859). In his poetical treatment of the subject, with its ironical echoes of older works of the "and they lived happily ever after" kind, his focus is upon the mismatch between the idealised expectations of marriage founded on such literature and having to dissimulate disappointment in them in order to meet societal conventions.

An objective consideration of the place and rights of women is hindered, since the narration is all from the husband's side in the sequence. The ambiguity of distinguishing between the narrator's voice there and the sexist attitudes exhibited by the husband contributes to this. In an article in the Victorian Newsletter, Hans Ostrom points out the way in which the husband "has fallen back on the most mechanically formulaic way of perceiving the troubled marriage; the problem. . . no longer exists in the marriage, but rather in the wife's femininity, in the fact that she is acting "like a woman". Double standards apply when women seek the same solace as have men in the past outside the marriage.

The husband has to face this when, in sonnet 7, he sees his wife as the attractive woman that others may find her through an imaginative reconstruction of his own mental habits, yet falls back on the demand on her, not simply for social prudence in behaviour but for emotional faithfulness to himself in addition. The irony of Meredith's title points to the fact that "modern love" is of this different and more demanding kind after the decay of the old attitude of male matrimonial complaisance. Beyond marriage as the arrangement of a social contract connected with wealth and position, emotional fidelity is a new and impossible requirement. Modern love, in this new context, is a hypocritical keeping up of appearances in the face of Darwinian pressures to act otherwise:
 * Then if we study nature we are wise.
 * Thus do the few who live but with the day.
 * The scientific animals are they. [Sonnet 30]

Meredith is examining what is essentially an insoluble problem and by the end of the sequence comes to no certain conclusion.

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Roger Teillet

Jean-Baptiste Roger Joseph Camille Teillet (21 August 1912 – 1 May 2002) was a Canadian politician, becoming the first self-identifying Métis member of the Canadian Cabinet in 1963.

He served in the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as a Liberal-Progressive from 1953 to 1959, and in the House of Commons of Canada as a Liberal from 1962 to 1968. Teillet was a cabinet minister in the government of Lester B. Pearson, and retained that post after Pearson stepped down and Pierre Elliott Trudeau became the new Liberal leader.

Early life
Jean-Baptiste Roger Joseph Camille Teillet was born on River Road in St. Vital, Manitoba, to Sara Riel and Camille Teillet. Born into one of Manitoba's most well-known Métis families, Roger Teillet was a direct descendant of Marie-Anne Gaboury and Jean-Baptiste Lagimodière, who were the first white settlers in Canada's west and were also the grandparents of Louis Riel. Roger was the grandson of Joseph Riel, Louis Riel's younger brother.

Roger was educated in St. Vital and St. Boniface schools, and at St. Boniface College.

World War II
During the Second World War, Roger was a flight lieutenant in the Royal Canadian Air Force and a navigator on a Halifax bomber. He took part in 24 successful bombing missions over Germany before being shot down over France in 1943. After evading German soldiers for 15 days, he was captured at the Rivière Cher, and spent almost three years as a prisoner of war in Stalag Luft III, located at Sagan (now Żagań, Poland), southeast of Berlin in the then-province of Silesia. Conditions in this camp were not as brutal as in many others because it was specifically made for officers, who were not subject to forced labour. As a prisoner-of-war, he continued his studies through an educational program that was set up using the expertise of prisoners there. (Stalag Luft III was made famous after the war because of Paul Brickhill's book, The Great Escape, a book which was also made into a film.)

In January 1945, prisoners from camps all over Germany were herded from the camps and forced to walk the length and breadth of Germany, in an effort to evade the encroaching Allied armies. On 5 May 1945, Teillet and the others were turned over to the British Army not far from Bremen. Their guards surrendered and the prisoners were airlifted to Brussels.

Upon his return to Canada, Teillet went into the insurance business in Winnipeg. He was a member of the Knights of Columbus and active in his Catholic parish of Précieux-sang. When his two sons, Philippe and Richard, were in school, he became a trustee in the separate school system.

Later life
Teillet had always been involved in politics: he was involved with the L'Union Nationale Métisse; was a party organizer before ever going overseas; and was an original members of the St. Vital Young Liberals when still a teenager. Now, in the post-war years, he became very active in the Manitoba Liberal Association, acting as the vice-president. He also served in many capacities on the federal liberal party's executive in Winnipeg South Centre.

Teillet was married to Jeanne Boux of St. Boniface, Manitoba, with whom he had two sons, who in turn had two grandchildren. Their eldest son, Philippe Teillet, is a professor emeritus at the University of Lethbridge.

He died in Ottawa in 2002. Jeanne predeceased him by two years, and their younger son, Richard, died of cancer in 2003. All three are buried in Green Acres Cemetery in St. Boniface.

Political career
Teillet was first elected to the Manitoba Legislature in the 1953 provincial election, finishing atop the polls in the constituency of St. Boniface, which in those days elected two members via a single transferable ballot. For the next five years, Roger sat as a backbencher in Premier Douglas Lloyd Campbell's government.

Manitoba abandoned its multi-member constituencies in 1956, and Teillet was re-elected for the now single-member seat of St. Boniface in the 1958 provincial election. The Liberal-Progressives were defeated in this election, and Roger did not seek re-election in 1959.

Teillet ran for a seat in the House of Commons in the federal election of 1962, defeating incumbent Progressive Conservative Laurier Regnier by 2,601 votes in the federal riding of St. Boniface. He defeated Regnier again in the 1963 election, when the Liberals won a minority government under Lester B. Pearson.

On 22 April 1963, Teillet was appointed Minister of Veterans Affairs by Prime Minister Pearson. At this point, Teillet became the first self-identifying Métis member of Cabinet.

As Minister of Veterans Affairs, Teillet was involved in some controversial projects. The Royal Canadian Legion was vehemently opposed to any new flag for Canada and Teillet was required to be a mediary. He sat on the New Flag Committee as an ex officio member. He was also involved in the revamping of Canada's veterans' hospitals. In both 1964 and 1966, he represented Canada at war commemorative ceremonies at war cemeteries in Europe. At this time, he toured Canada's war graves. He was dismayed at the condition of the monument at Vimy Ridge. He brought his concern forward but work did not begin on the monument until 1984. Still, it was through Roger's effort that the monument was eventually restored.

Teillet saw to it that Vimy Ridge was properly recognized at Vimy Park in Winnipeg, and established a memorial in Halifax dedicated to Royal Canadian Naval Volunteer Reserve members who died in the World War II. As a Métis, Teillet brought forward the concerns of the Métis in parliament, particularly as they involved the cause that Louis Riel had died for.

Teillet was re-elected over Progressive Conservative candidate Harry DeLeeuw in 1965. He was the only Liberal MP in the Prairies. In 1968, he unexpectedly lost the Liberal nomination for St. Boniface to Joseph-Philippe Guay. Choosing not to run in another riding, Teillet formally resigned from Cabinet on July 5, 1968.

Teillet was then appointed to head the Canada Pension Commission by Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau. While still in Cabinet, Teillet had been working with this Commission with a view to reforming veterans' pensions. He served on this Commission until his retirement in 1980.

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Hello Dan, I noticed your talk page was still blank, so thought I'd give you the old wikipedia official welcome stuff, so there you go, consider yourself officially welcomed! All the best. Anilocra 22:53, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

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Greetings! Was delighted to see the creation of Der Corregidor in Special:Newpages and thought I'd say hello; so hello, from another music editor. (Nice username, too.) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 00:31, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

yet another
Hi Microtonal--Mindspillage just pointed out your Der Corregidor article to me (pleased to see it, and to see that someone else knows what it is!) and I also noticed your Chigi codex article. So, a warm hello from an early music enthusiast and fellow grad school veteran, and I'm glad to see another music editor here: there really aren't that many of us. Happy editing! Antandrus (talk)  00:44, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

It never stops
So, you got two of these in one day this weekend, but I also wanted to say hi. I'm a musicologist-turned-librarian at Indiana. I come from more of a new music background myself, though I haven't done a whole lot of it on here. Anyway, it would seem that one from your ranks is joining ours—a Baroque oboist/possible musicology PhD student will be coming here in the fall. You know who I'm talking about? I think a girl I went to high school with also may be playing euphonium there. I'd be more forthcoming, but you know... the whole putting people's names on the Internet thing. Just thought I'd ask. --NymphadoraTonks 30 June 2005 03:32 (UTC)

Who's RFA
Thank you for your vote of support on my RFA. ∞ Who ? ¿ ? 20:14, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

thanks for supporting me
Hello, just a quick note to express my gratitude for your support of my RfA. I'm sure I'll become a familiar face on places like the Administrator's Noticeboard and Requests for Adminship, as well as the murkier parts of my new job. "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." (Luke 12:48, NIV) Never was a truer word spoken. I feel empowered, yes, but not in the "oooh cool delete button!" way I was kind of expecting. Already I feel the weight of the responsibility I have now been entrusted with, a weight that will no doubt reduce given time. Thank you for believing in me. :) GarrettTalk 10:01, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Alfons Mucha template
Thanks for info. I do have images switched off so I saw only space and I never noticed this template before (and coudn't find the template page either). The idea of such template itself looks as quite useful. Pavel Vozenilek 03:28, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

UT music department
Hi, I saw that you're a grad student at the UT music department. I know it well, my father (Doug Green) was a theory professor there for over twenty years (he died in '99). I was in String Project from 4th grade to 8th grade and again from 11th to 12th. And when I was an undergrad there from 1986 to 1990, even though I wasn't a music major, most of my friends were. Give my best to ol' MRH (which I still think of as the "new music building" even though it must be 25 years old by now)! --Angr/undefined 19:07, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Lyric Suite (Berg) has the red link Douglass M. Green on it, but Wikipedia's policy against family vanity prevents me from writing an article. Hint, hint! :-) --Angr/undefined 08:02, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

You don't have to of course, if you don't want to! I don't think he ever had a CV on the web, but there are some obituaries with biographical information:, ,. --Angr/undefined 15:57, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've thought more about it and have decided it's best not to give him an article. He doesn't really seem to pass the criteria at WP:BIO, or the criteria of any but the most rampant inclusionists at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for inclusion of biographies/Academics, and trying to find anything out about him on Google, other than the fact that he died, is extremely difficult, raising issues of verifiability. So I hereby officially withdraw my hint! --Angr/undefined 08:24, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

New Vandy Logo
Personally, I think the black-and-gold logo is too colorful for the infobox. The gold and the grey clash, IMO. -Ttownfeen 01:19, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Either/or is fine by me...thanks for the contribution. I see you're a Vanderbilt alum; I hope you stick around. I'm trying ever so slowly to possibly get the article to at least FA-wannabe status, but I don't have the time to do all the researching necessary. Any input you have would be greatly appreciated. Ttownfeen 19:19, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

And I just want to point out that I have shamelessly copied your VU alums userbox on my own page, which I hope you don't mind my doing. Esrever 08:52, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Question
Hi Dan: I was looking at the list of compositions of JSB (specifically the cantatas); I liked the set up you have devised for the description of the cantatas. Got me to thinking: should we create a Bach Portal? Would people be interested? I am a big fan of all the Bachs, and would be interested in helping create such a portal if you think it would be useful. Let me know. --FeanorStar7 01:29, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

New Main Page Election talks
A discussion has begun on how to handle an official election for replacing the Main Page. To ensure it is set up sensibly and according to consensus, your input is needed there. --Go for it! 22:47, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

UT Austin Wikimeetup
With the March SXSW conference coming soon, I thought it'd be a good idea to start having regular meetings. Since everyone listed attends the University, I thought we should meet somewhere on campus in the next week. Please come to Meetup/Austin and let me know what you think. — Scm83x talk 06:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I've updated Meetup/Austin with the group photo, which can also be found at Image:Austinmeetup04feb2006.jpg. Nice meeting you. Hook 'em! — Rebelguys2 talk 00:37, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Remarks at Ravi Shankar
Hi Microtonal. Thank you for expressing your opinions on the Ravi Shankar talk page. I have withdrawn my request because of the opposition that it has aroused. I found some of your remarks to be directed at me rather than at the topic of discussion, and I found them rather offensive. It would please me very much if you would remove those parts of your comments that refer to me in particular. Thank you. BostonMA 22:32, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

 * The "significant opposition" from yourself included the statement "I don't see any harm in what you propose". My understanding of consensus is not that everyone necessarily agrees, but that everyone can live with a particular decision.  I'm sorry if I misconstrued your comment as implying a lack of a strong objection.  The other objections were equally mild.  If there had been a strong objection, I would not have taken the actions I did.
 * Your comment state:
 * "I stated that this was a pointless move the first time the issue came up, but you went ahead and did it anyway."
 * However, I made the move after an extensive discussion in which I sought consensus, and observed no strong objections after several days. You also write:
 * "Yes, BostonMA, disambiguation and redirects always cause problems for editors, but I don't think it's at all fair of you to appeal to editor-friendliness as a reason for moving articles around when you're the one who changed all the links to Ravi Shankar (musician) in the first place, thus instigating the entire problem. And quite unnecessarily so, IMO."
 * In this statement, you claim that I "intigated" "the entire problem", and "unnecessarily". If you are unwilling to remove this statement, could you please explain what problems were experienced, and how I was the cause of these problems?  Thanks.  --BostonMA 23:39, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Hi, you wrote:
 * Please don't misquote or quote-mine me. I'm not one to take offense easily, but misrepresenting what I've said is pretty much the only way to really piss me off. To wit, the phrase "not insignificant" is in absolutely no way equivocable to "significant", and you'll find that my statement "I don't see any harm in what you propose" was followed immediately by "but I also don't see the need for it." I'd like to add that I was attempting to be diplomatic, there, but apparently I did not make my true opinion of your proposed move clear.

 * Please do not take offence. I did not intentionally misquote you.  Perhaps my comprehension of English is not as good as yours, but I did not see the difference between what I wrote and what you wrote, and will probably require someone to explain it to me.  Be that as it may, I understood that you followed the statement I quoted with "but I also don't see the need for it".  I realize you were neither agreeing with me, nor supporting my actions.  However, I interpretted your statement in light of my (possibly flawed) understanding of how consensus works on Wikipedia.  My understanding was that everyone need not agree, provided everyone can live with the result.  I do not think you needed to throw a temper tantrum.  However, you could have said "I think the proposed change would be harmful".  That would have been clear.  (I do not fault you if we miscommunicated, as that is part of life.)

 * Now, to the point: From the discussion I see at Talk:Ravi Shankar, it appears that the majority of posters (Wasted Time R, Silence, Natalya, Zoe, William Allen Simpson and myself) actually disagreed with you, both prior to your first move and again the second time around. The fact that no one threw a temper-tantrum about it in no way mitigates the fact that few users, if any at all, thought the page should be moved according to your proposal. Understand that I am not accusing you of moving the page in bad faith, I simply think that you did so in bad judgement. The fact that you "sought consensus" does not mean that a consensus was actually reached, and the fact that you did not perceive a "strong objection" does not mean that there was no objection.

 * I understand.

 * As for the problem itself, I'm talking about the same one you are: the existence of allegedly "ambiguous" links to Ravi Shankar. Yes, that's a minor problem, and perhaps a slight inconvenience for the casual editor who may or may not know how to use the "what links here" special page effectively, but the absolute LAST thing you should do when faced with "ambiguous" links is to create an entire new article. By doing so, you have increased the potential for ambiguous links, rather than decreased it, because more pages equate to more chances to get the link wrong. This is particularly true when the page you want to be the "main article" is a dab page or has a parenthetical title. You're going to find that most editors, when linking Ravi Shankar, are never going to write  Ravi Shankar , and you're just going to have to go through and fix all those new links, anyway. In every case, it is the link that is wrong, not the article that is being linked, and that is what should be fixed. Leaving Ravi Shankar as the main article and dispensing entirely with Ravi Shankar (musician) and Ravi Shankar (disambiguation) (at least until they become absolutely necessary, which doesn't seem likely) is going to cause all of us significantly less link-fixing work in the long run. It also has the advantage of not being blatantly and arbitrarily contrary to Wikipedia dab policy.

 * You say that "the problem itself" is the same one that I am referring to. However, then you continue by talking about "ambiguous links", and some other stuff about inconvenience to a casual editor.  There seem to be two things here, the problem that you perceive that I have caused, and the problem that I have set out to solve.  I would like to know more about the problem you believe I have caused, because I really do not understand it.  If a naive editor makes a link to Ravi Shankar which is a redirect page to Ravi Shankar (musician), neither the naive editor is inconvenienced nor is a reader of the Wikipedia inconvenienced, unless I am missing something (which is quite possible).  People who have an objection to redirects on principle will be put out, but there are many, many redirects and I don't see how they are harmful, as long as the redirects are not multiple redirects.  Redirects allow users to reach the same page using many different queries, and this, I would think is an advantage to users.  You state that most editors will write Ravi Shankar rather than Ravi Shankar (musician).  But that is in most cases what I want.  If you don't want to fix the links, you don't have to, and everything still works, however, if you are like me, and want to find the cases where a link to Ravi Shankar should actually have gone to Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, or to some other person who may not have an article, then it is very valuable to know which links have been researched, and which have not.  Consider for a moment how it works with regular dab pages.  We know that links to the dab page have not been checked, but links to the actual articles probably have.  Fixing the links removes them from the list to be fixed the next time around.  The difference between a link to a dab page and the case with Ravi Shankar pointing to Ravi Shankar (musician) is that links to dab pages are an inconvenience, whereas links to a redirect page are transparent.

 * In short, had you not created Ravi Shankar (musician), there would have been absolutely no need for you to pipe all of those Ravi Shankar links to point there, and there wouldn't now be a need for someone to go and fix all of those links so that they point back to Ravi Shankar. And if the article is located at Ravi Shankar (musician) there will always be a need for someone to keep watch over new links to Ravi Shankar and pipe them accordingly. If it isn't, that entire problem never even arises. Microtonal 01:29, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Again, I think we see different problems. You see my piping the Ravi Shankar links as a burden, which I unfortunately created by having Ravi Shankar (musician).  I do not, because I believe there will always be a need for someone to watch over new links to Ravi Shankar.  The links that had already been created demonstrate that people will link to Ravi Shankar, even when the person meant is not the musician.  This will continue to happen, and it will continue to need correcting.  The question is are we going to make it easier on those who do the correcting, or are we going to make it harder.  I can appreciate the argument that the needs of the end users and the needs of the editors outweigh the needs of link-fixers.  But I have yet to hear exactly how an editor or an end user is inconvenienced.  If you could explain that to me, I would be very grateful.
 * On a final note, your comments about me in the Ravi Shankar talk page, may or may not be accurate. That is not the point.  They are hurtful to me, and I would be very thankful if you would remove them. --User:BostonMA 02:40, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

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sports wiki
Hi fellow "Dan":

I noticed you were active on many sports pages on Wikipedia. My friends and are I starting a sports wiki that you may be interested in. It uses Wikipedia's software but we made a lot of technological improvements to allow for more news and opinion articles, as well as regular encyclopedic entries. If you're interested, contact me and I'll give you the URL. --DNL 17:57, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Great! The site is here.

template:user fsm
I'm calling out a posse, to fight for freedom of choice, to fight all those who think that only their opinion's right, template:user fsm was speedy deleted by an administrator without any cause or even discussion, I'm therefore putting it up for undeletion since people have put a jihad out against opinions in userboxes. As you were one of many people using the template, I'm trying to rally you into the posse. If you think the template should be returned to active status, put in a vote at Deletion_review/Userbox_debates. Janizary 04:26, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes
Ack, I screwed this up, just go see my response on my talk page. -- Cyde Weys 03:02, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Sports & Opera?
Hi Dan. I just wanted to drop a line, saying how impressed I am to find anyone else on the planet who appreciates both opera and sports/basketball! Thanks for adding the women's hoops championship venue. -Deebkie March 31, 2006

Meetups, events, &c.
Hi Microtonal,

There's currently some discussion about whether and how to set up [a] US wikimedia chapter[s]; among other things this could help better organize meetups and gatherings at large events and cons. I'm trying to notify people who have been involved in local meetups; if you are interested, see the mailing-list and meta-page on the topic. Cheers, +sj + 16:57, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Category:Psuedoreligionist Wikipedians
As you may already be aware, Category:Psuedoreligionist Wikipedians and its subcategories, Category:Discordian Wikipedians, Category:Flying Spaghetti Monsterist Wikipedians, Category:SubGenius Wikipedians, and others, have been deleted. That deletion is now up for review. If you have anything you'd like to say on the subject, now is the time. If you know of any other editors who might have something to say on the subject, pass the word. If, on the other hand, you are not interested in the slightest, feel free to delete this. — Bigwyrm watch mewake me 11:03, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Contemporary music
Hi Microtonal, I wonder if you would be interested in joining the new WikiProject Contemporary music that I helped organize recently? Our goal is to help improve Wikipedia’s coverage of the subject. Best, --S.dedalus (talk) 03:19, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

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The Bad-Tempered Electronic Keyboard
Hello, hello!

I am very interested in the master's report you mention on your page. Especially, is there a score of Burgess' The Bad-Tempered Electronic Keyboard ? What does it sound like ?

You can write on my French page at http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Baruch

Looking forward to reading you!

Baruch —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.247.133.25 (talk) 13:27, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
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Bach cantatas
I noticed your user page on the Bach cantatas - they got new names, handle with care ... or use the updated version, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:46, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * In the meantime I noticed that some names on the list are misspelled. Some former redirects don't work anymore, such as Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, the chorale which is the base for the cantata. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Precious
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Thank you, Dan, scientist and lover of music, master of The Well-Tempered Clavier, for quality articles such as Chigi codex and the beginning of many Bach cantatas such as Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam, BWV 7, but also your "dear old dad", - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:20, 24 June 2015 (UTC) Five years ago, you were recipient no. 1249 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:12, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Vandy invite
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ArbCom elections are now open!
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BWV 4
Thank you for beginning this! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:18, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

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Teeny

Teeny can refer to:

 * A teenager or a "teenybopper"
 * The state of being very small
 * Trond Holter, a member of the band Wig Wam
 * A small drink sold in Massachusetts and New Hampshire stores composed of water, sugar, food coloring, and artificial flavoring packaged in a small plastic clear barrel-like bottle covered with tin foil (also spelled Teenie)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tchai Ovna

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 03:28, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Tchai Ovna
This entry is about a small coffee/tea shop, not notable or encyclopedic.
 * Delete Agreed. Xcali 04:45, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable, advert/promo. Megan1967 05:45, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, This is a unique and unusual place which is rather more than a shop, which plays an important role in the alernative cultural landscape of Glasgow. It is of interest to ther people, but the entry is perhaps in need of expansion  Greensquirrel 09:30, 27 May (BST)
 * The above is in reality . RickK 19:27, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete advertising--Sophitus 10:12, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

Keep This entry was not written by anyone affiliated to the shop, so cannot be considered advertising. Shops such as Macys and Harrods have entries because they are culturally important. On a smaller scale, so too is this shop - surely the point of an open source encyclopedia should be to include small, and lesser known pieces of information
 * The above is also . You wouldn't get to vote twice even if you were a logged-in user, but being an anon and an unsigned anon, you particularly(?) don't get two votes.  RickK 19:27, May 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-notable. RickK 19:27, May 27, 2005 (UTC) (third vote?)
 * Comment, the "double votes" issue really dosn't mean much. Let him have his say, and if he wants to add more that's his perogative. Wikipedia is not a democracy, it's the discussion that matters. Ryan Prior 16:08, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable.  Quale 15:33, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Talk:Jane Wiedlin

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hey does anyone know what her parents name were? her education? her interests? ...it's for a school project...battle of the bands

Apparantly, she's a huge Star Trek fan. -LtNOWIS 03:25, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

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Last name -- pronunciation?
I hope this isn't a stupid question, but how is her last name pronounced? Is it "weed-lin" or "wide-lin"? Captain Quirk (talk) 00:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It's "weed-lin".Crockett john 22:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crockett john (talk • contribs)

 * Ah, that's what I thought. Thanks.  Captain Quirk (talk) 10:15, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

LGBT?
Why the LGBT tag? The article doesn't mention her sexual orientation, nor provide references to support it, nor does the section on her political activism mention any position on those issues. I seem to recall hearing something about her being bisexual, but my seeming to recall isn't a reliable source. I'll give it a day or two for someone to provide a WP:RS, but I'm inclined to remove the tag to avoid BLP issues. 131.96.13.213 (talk) 21:47, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

 * No one stepped up to the plate, so removing per WP:BLPCAT. Unless a case is made for the categories she's placed in within the article text and with references, the category must be removed. 131.96.13.213 (talk) 22:40, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

songwriter
She`s always been the primary songwriter for the go go`s..it should be in the lead.107.217.84.95 (talk) 20:53, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

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Ritual Decalogue

The Ritual Decalogue is a list of laws at. These laws are similar to the Covenant Code and are followed by the phrase "Ten Commandments" (עשרת הדברים aseret ha-dvarîm, in ). Although the phrase "Ten Commandments" has traditionally been interpreted as referring to a very different set of laws, in, many scholars believe it instead refers to the Ritual Decalogue found two verses earlier.

Critical biblical scholars understand the two sets of laws to have different authorship. Early scholars, adopting a proposal of Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, contrasted the "Ritual" Decalogue with the "Ethical" Decalogue of and, which are the texts more generally known as the Ten Commandments. Believing that the Bible reflected a shift over time from an emphasis on the ritual to the ethical, they argued that the Ritual Decalogue was composed earlier than the Ethical Decalogue. Later scholars have held that they were actually parallel developments, with the Ethical Decalogue a late addition to Exodus copied from Deuteronomy, or that the Ritual Decalogue was the later of the two, a conservative reaction to the secular Ethical Decalogue. A few Bible scholars call the verses in Exodus 34 the "small Covenant code", as it appears to be a compact version of the Covenant Code in Exodus –; they argue the small Covenant code was composed around the same time as the Decalogue of Exodus 20, but either served different functions within Israelite religion, or reflects the influence of other Ancient Near Eastern religious texts.

The word decalogue comes from the Greek name for the Ten Commandments, δέκα λόγοι (déka lógoi; "ten terms"), a translation of the Hebrew עשרת הדברים (aseret ha-dvarîm "the ten items/terms").

Biblical context
The Ritual Decalogue is framed in the context of God making a covenant with Israel:

 * Yahweh said to Moses, Cut two tablets of stone like the former ones, and I will write on the tablets the words that were on the former tablets, which you broke. ... I hereby make a covenant.
 * [Commandments of Exodus 34]
 * Yahweh said to Moses, Write these words; in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel. ... And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the ten commandments [עשרת הדברים aseret ha-dvarîm].

Assuming that Moses is being commanded to write down the content of verses 15-26 on the new tablets, this would be the only place in the Bible where the phrase Ten Commandments identifies an explicit set of commandments.

Interpretations
While Orthodox Judaism and Christianity hold that both sets of tablets contained the same ten commandments, some scholars identify verses 11-26 as an alternate "ten commandments" which they call the "ritual" decalogue. For these scholars, the terms "ritual decalogue" and "ethical decalogue" are a way of distinguishing between alternate inscriptions of the ten commandments.

The commandments in the Ritual Decalogue are expanded upon in the Covenant Code, which occurs prior to it in the Torah, and thus have the impression of being a summary of the important points in the Code. The Covenant Code is believed by most scholars of biblical criticism as having originally been a separate text to the Torah, and thus there is much debate as to the relationship between the Ritual Decalogue and Covenant Code. There are essentially two positions, neither of which is decisively supported, either by evidence, or by number of scholars:

 * Either the commandments of the Ritual Decalogue were originally indistinct commandments in the body of a much larger work, such as the Covenant Code, and were selected as being the most important by some process, whether gradual filtering or by an individual,
 * Or the Covenant Code represents a later expansion of the Ritual Decalogue, with additional commandments added on, again either by gradual aggregation, or by an individual.

The documentary hypothesis identifies the Ritual Decalogue as the work of the Jahwist, from the Kingdom of Judah, and the Covenant Code as that of the Elohist, from the Kingdom of Israel, both writing independently. It does not however answer the question of how these texts were related, merely that the Ritual Decalogue circulated in Judah, and the Covenant Code in Israel. What the documentary hypothesis does partly explain is the relationship of the Ritual Decalogue to the Ethical Decalogue, and why, instead of the Ethical Decalogue, it is the Ritual Decalogue which is written on the two tablets when Moses ascends the mountain to have the Ethical Decalogue inscribed for a second time.

The documentary hypothesis claims that the Jahwist and Elohist texts were first combined by a redactor, producing a text referred to simply as JE, in such a way that it now reads that God dictated the Covenant Code, which was written onto stone, Moses subsequently smashing these stones at the incident of the golden calf, and thus having to go back and get a new set, with a set of commandments, the Ritual Decalogue, resembling the first. Under this reconstruction another writer, the Priestly source, later took offence at parts of JE, and rewrote it, dropping the story of the golden calf, and replacing the Ritual Decalogue with a new (ethical) decalogue initially based on it, but taking commandments from elsewhere as well, and replacing the Covenant Code with a vast new law code, placed after the Decalogue for narrative reasons, most of which forms the greater part of the mitzvot in Leviticus.

The reconstruction then suggests that a century later yet another writer, the Deuteronomist, objected to the Priestly source, and rewrote it yet again, but in a different style: that of a series of flashbacks, producing a second slightly different copy of the Ethical Decalogue, and re-introducing the golden calf. Presented with such divergent versions of the same event, a later redactor is thought to have combined all three versions – JE, the Priestly source, and Deuteronomist, together. JE and the Priestly source were interleaved together, altering JE so that it was now the Ethical Decalogue which was written on the first set of tablets and subsequently destroyed. The alteration, by careful juxtaposition, subtly implied that the second set of tablets also received the Ethical rather than Ritual Decalogue, despite the text saying, immediately after the Ritual Decalogue,
 * The said to Moses, Write these words; in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel. [...] And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the ten commandments [emphasis added]

Decalogues compared
Besides its appearance in, where "[t]raditionally, it is taken as a reference back to the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20", the phrase aseret ha-dvarîm also appears in , where it is associated with the Ten Commandments of Deuteronomy 5, and in.

Covenant codes compared
Some scholars, calling attention to, "Then the said: 'I am making a covenant with you'," note that the laws of Exodus 34 appear to be a shorter and differently organized version of the Covenant Code. These have been differentiated as the "Small Covenant Code" (Exodus 34) and the "Large Covenant Code" (Exodus 20–23). These views are not mutually exclusive. Aaron (2006), for example, discusses how the "Exodus 34 Decalogue", while presented as the Ten Commandments, appears to be a reworking of the Covenant Code. Indeed, H.L. Ginsberg believed that the Ritual Decalogue was an interpolation, and that the phrase "Ten Commandments" in Exodus 34:28 originally referred to a portion of the Covenant Code,, which he called the First Ritual Decalogue.

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Sporty

Sporty may refer to:

 * Sportsmanship
 * Sporty, Australian radio program
 * Sporty, stage name of Øystein Andersen, drummer in the Norwegian rock band Wig Wam
 * "Sporty Spice", stage name of Melanie C, of the Spice Girls music group
 * Sporty Thievz, an American hip-hop group

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Wide Right I

Wide Right I is the colloquial name for a 1991 college football game between the Miami Hurricanes and Florida State Seminoles. The game is one of the most significant in the history of the Florida State–Miami football rivalry, and its name is a reference to its dramatic ending: with 29 seconds remaining, Florida State kicker Gerry Thomas missed a 34-yard potential game-winning field goal "wide to the right." It was the 26th meeting between the first- and second-ranked teams in the AP Poll and only the second between top-ranked teams from the same state (the other being the 1968 Purdue–Notre Dame game).

Miami's win was the fourth time in five years that the Hurricanes knocked Florida State out of national championship contention. The game was also the first of a peculiar string of five over the next 12 years in which Florida State lost to Miami due to a late missed field goal that would have won or tied the game, often with national championship implications at stake. Florida State suffered an immediate case of déjà vu when kicker Dan Mowrey missed a field goal wide right on the final play of the 1992 meeting between the schools, a 19–16 Miami win known as "Wide Right II." In later years, two additional "Wide Rights" and a "Wide Left" followed.

Background
The November 16 No. 1 vs. No. 2 showdown between Sunshine State rivals was described as "the most highly anticipated regular season clash" since the 1971 Nebraska-Oklahoma game. Top-ranked Florida State entered the game with a 10–0 record and a quarterback, Casey Weldon, who was undefeated as a starter. The Seminoles featured a high-flying offense that was averaging 41 points per game (third in the nation in scoring) and had earlier in the season shocked the college football world by scoring 51 points in a blowout win over the then-No. 4 Michigan Wolverines at Michigan Stadium. Meanwhile, second-ranked Miami had raced to an 8-0 record on the strength of a defense that was ranked first in the nation in scoring and had not allowed a first-half touchdown all season. The Hurricane defense had surrendered just 58 points all season, and Miami carried a 7-game winning streak against top-ranked opponents into the clash. Miami was outscoring its opponents by an average of 28.9 points per game; Florida State, by 25.9. The Seminoles entered with a then-school record 16-game winning streak, while the Hurricanes had won 14 straight. In the struggle between the proverbial unstoppable force and immovable object, host Florida State was installed as the favorite.

The game
The game occurred before a record crowd of 63,442 at Doak Campbell Stadium. Miami received the ball first and went on an impressive 74-yard opening drive that featured a 30-yard run by running back Stephen McGuire and a critical third-down scramble by quarterback Gino Torretta. McGuire capped the drive with a 2-yard touchdown run to give the Hurricanes the early lead, 7-0. Florida State answered with a 51-yard completion from Weldon to Amp Lee, the longest play Miami's vaunted defense had allowed that season. The play set up a first-and-goal from the Miami 1-yard line. The Hurricane defense stiffened and, after a pair of penalties, Florida State was forced to settle for a 25-yard field goal from Gerry Thomas. The rest of the quarter showed missed opportunities on both sides, with Miami receivers dropping three deep passes from Torretta while Florida State's offense short-circuited with penalties.

Momentum swung to Florida State in the second quarter thanks to three Miami turnovers. The first came early when the Seminole defense recovered a fumble by McGuire at the Hurricane 24-yard line. After Weldon completed a pass to Edgar Bennett to bring the 'Noles down to the 5-yard line, the Hurricane defense again toughened, forcing a fourth-and-goal from the 1. Florida State opted to play smashmouth and backup fullback Paul Moore powered his way into the end zone to give Florida State a 10-7 lead. Miami drove inside the Florida State 30-yard line twice more in the quarter, but Torretta was intercepted each time, first by Terrell Buckley and later by Marvin Jones. Miami got the ball back when Weldon, under pressure from All-American Rusty Medearis (2 sacks for the game), was intercepted by Charles Pharms. The Hurricanes could not convert the turnover into points, as Carlos Huerta's 41-yard field goal attempt was blocked, preserving a 10-7 halftime lead for Florida State.

Florida State dominated the third quarter statistically, racking up huge advantages in yardage (158 to 38) and time of possession (10:04 to 4:56), but was mostly unable to convert that dominance into points. After briefly getting the wind knocked out of him by Miami linebacker Corwin Francis, Weldon led the 'Noles 58 yards in 13 plays on their first drive of the second half. Florida State drove down to the Miami 9-yard line, but the Miami defense hardened once again and the Seminoles settled for a 31-yard field goal for the only points of the quarter, pushing their lead to 13–7. Later in the third, Florida State embarked on a time-consuming 11-play, 90-yard drive that culminated early in the fourth quarter with Thomas' third field goal of the day, extending the Seminoles' lead to 16–7.

Miami answered with a 10-play, 44-yard drive that ended with a 45-yard field goal by Huerta. Florida State punted on its next possession and Miami took over trailing by 6 with 7 minutes remaining. On second-and-16, Torretta completed a 22-yard pass to an outstretched Coleman Bell, bringing the Hurricanes to the Seminole 41-yard line. A series of runs by McGuire, who finished with 142 yards rushing, brought Miami inside the red zone, but the Hurricanes soon faced a crucial fourth-and-6. Torretta found Horace Copeland for his only reception of the game, giving Miami a first down at the Florida State 3-yard line. The Florida State defense stopped Miami on first and second down, but backup fullback Larry Jones made the end zone on third down from 1 yard out to put the Hurricanes back in front, 17–16, with 3:01 left to play.

Florida State responded by promptly marching down to the Miami 46-yard line. There, Bennett bulled his way forward for 7 yards to convert a critical fourth-and-1. A pass interference call in the end zone against Miami's Ryan McNeil moved the Seminoles to the 18-yard line. On first down, Lee ran wide to the left side for 1 yard. Out of timeouts, Weldon spiked the ball on second down, bringing up third-and-9 with 29 seconds remaining. Weldon had lost his shoe on the previous play and Florida State head coach Bobby Bowden elected to have Thomas, who was 3-for-3 on the day, attempt a field goal one down early, reasoning, "An interception, a bounced ball and you lose the ball game. You'd kick yourself in the rear for the rest of your life." With both Miami's and Florida State's national championship aspirations riding on the outcome, Thomas came on to attempt a 34-yard, potential game-winning field goal.

Keith Jackson, broadcasting the game for ABC, made the call: The snap...it's up...missed it to the right! Miami players are all over the field. They're going to get penalized for it, but "So what?" I'm sure is their attitude.

Prior to the 1991 season, the NCAA narrowed the width of the uprights by 4 feet 10 inches; Thomas' kick missed by the length of the football. Miami players threw their helmets in the air and rushed the field to celebrate, while Bowden, hands on hips, gazed at the goalposts, stunned.

After taking a knee to run off the remaining few seconds, Torretta tossed the ball skyward in triumph and Miami emerged from the contest with a 17–16 victory.

Aftermath
After the game, Bowden expressed regret about not passing the ball on a third-and-goal from the Hurricane 4-yard line early in the fourth quarter and famously bemoaned his repeated misfortune at the hands of Miami, saying, "I think the curse is they're on our schedule. They're going to chisel on my tombstone, 'At least he played Miami.'"

With the win, Miami ascended to number one in the AP Poll and kept that ranking for the rest of the season. The Hurricanes won their final two regular season games and blanked No. 11 Nebraska 22–0 in the Orange Bowl, en route to their fourth national championship. Miami would share the national championship with the Washington Huskies, who finished first in the Coaches' Poll.

Florida State was upset in their final regular season game two weeks later by Florida, 14–9. The Seminoles would rebound to beat Texas A&M by a score matching their regular season record, 10–2, in the Cotton Bowl Classic, finishing ranked fourth in both the AP and Coaches' Polls.

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