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Tatu (footballer)

Antonio Carlos Pecorari (born 1 February 1962), commonly known as Tatu, is a Brazilian football coach and former player, and one of the most accomplished indoor football players of all time. He is currently the head coach of the Texas Outlaws, formerly the Mesquite Outlaws, in the Major Arena Soccer League. His nickname means "armadillo" in Portuguese.

Playing career
In 1981, Tatu came to the United States at age 19, shortly after finishing his first professional season at São Paulo, and scoring 10 goals. He had intended to play for several months, earning enough money to buy a house in São Paulo. Tatu signed with the Tampa Bay Rowdies of the NASL during the 1981–82 indoor season and scored a hat trick in his first appearance even though he had not yet had the opportunity to practice with his new club. He quickly became a fan favorite while playing several more outdoor and indoor seasons in Tampa Bay. He was a member of the Rowdies when they won the 1983 NASL Grand Prix of Indoor Soccer.

The NASL folded in 1984, and Tatu moved to the Dallas Sidekicks of the Major Indoor Soccer League. When Tatu moved to Dallas, the Cleveland Force sued the Sidekicks, arguing they had an agreement with him to purchase his contract from the Rowdies. The Sidekicks eventually gave the Force their second-round 1985 draft choice. In the summer of 1987 he played abroad in Canada's National Soccer League with Toronto International. As a Dallas Sidekick, Tatu was a part of all four Sidekicks' championship teams (1987, 1993, 1998 and 2001). From 1984 until 1992, the Sidekicks played in MISL. The league collapsed in 1992, and Dallas moved to the newly created Continental Indoor Soccer League until that league also collapsed in 1997. The CISL played during the summer, and Tatu spent the 1993–94 winter indoor season with the Wichita Wings of the National Professional Soccer League.

In 1998, the Sidekicks competed in the Premier Soccer Alliance. The PSA became the World Indoor Soccer League in 1999. In 2002, Dallas entered the newly reconstituted Major Indoor Soccer League. Tatu retired from playing in 2003.

Coaching career
In 1998, Tatu replaced Gordon Jago as the head coach of the Dallas Sidekicks. Tatu is the only person to win the player of the year and the coach of the year in the same season (1998). As a head coach, he went 63–53 in the regular season and 7–3 in the playoffs.

Tatu also spent six years coaching at The Highlands School in Irving, Texas, where he coached the Blazers to three state championships in 1997, 1998 and 2000. The high school team which he coaches now is Prince of Peace Christian School in Carrollton, Texas. He led the Prince of Peace varsity boys to seven TAPPS state championships: 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 (all fall championships) and 2009-2010, 2010-2011, 2011–2012, 2021-2022, (all winter championships). In the 2017–18 season, Tatu led his team to the TAPPS State Final Four where the Eagles lost during a torrential downpour against Brighter Horizons Academy. Tatu currently has also been coaching several girls' soccer teams for the Sting Soccer Club in North Texas.

In April 2012, it was announced that the Dallas Sidekicks would return to the indoor game as part of the Professional Arena Soccer League for the 2012–13 season. Tatu was a co-owner of the team and served as both the team's general manager and head coach for the inaugural season. He would remain with the club for three seasons, leaving in 2015.

On 22 July 2019, Tatu was named the first-ever head coach for the Major Arena Soccer League's Mesquite Outlaws.

Legacy
Tatu was known for throwing his jersey into the crowd after scoring a goal, a tradition that started during his time with the Tampa Bay Rowdies. He is a well-respected sports figure in Dallas because he is considered to be one of the best players to have played the indoor game in the U.S. His community involvement includes running many soccer camps in the Dallas area. When the Olympic Torch came through Dallas for the 2002 Salt Lake City games, Tatu had the honor as serving as a torch bearer.

Tatu has many indoor soccer records. He is second all-time in goal scoring with 857. He has the second most seasons played (21). Only Victor Nogueira has played more with 23 seasons. He is seventh on the all-time list with games played (633). He is also second in points (1585), second in shots (4396) and second in game-winning goals (77). He is the leader in power play goals with 113. Tatu is one of 3 players to have won all 4 championships with the Dallas Sidekicks.

In October 2011, Tatu was a member of the inaugural class of inductees into the Indoor Soccer Hall of Fame. At halftime of the 9 February 2013, game against the Rockford Rampage, the current Dallas Sidekicks retired Tatu's #9 jersey, honoring his long tenure as both a player and a coach for the original Dallas Sidekicks.

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Internet Tax Freedom Act

The 1998 Internet Tax Freedom Act is a United States law authored by Representative Christopher Cox and Senator Ron Wyden that established national policy regarding federal and state taxation of the internet, based upon its unique characteristics as a mode of interstate and global commerce uniquely susceptible to multiple and discriminatory taxation. The law prohibits state and local governments from imposing taxes directly on the internet or online activity, such as email taxes, internet access taxes, bit taxes, and bandwidth taxes. It categorizes taxes targeted specifically to the internet itself or to online commerce as “discriminatory.” Discriminatory taxes are outlawed.

When it was originally signed into signed into law as Title XI of Pub.L. 105-277 on October 21, 1998 by President Bill Clinton, the Act imposed a ten-year moratorium on discriminatory and multiple taxation of the internet and electronic commerce. The law was subsequently extended on multiple occasions by Congress, and on February 24, 2016, it was made permanent as Pub.L. 114-125, §922(a).

In both its original and permanent form, the law's stated purpose is to promote and preserve the commercial, educational, and informational potential of the Internet.

Background
The technology of the internet was uniquely challenging to existing regulatory and tax paradigms when the World Wide Web emerged in the 1990s. Its decentralized, packet-switched architecture, which could route even the simplest messages through servers in multiple cities, counties, and states, exposed the medium to potential taxation across a confusing patchwork of thousands of U.S. state and local taxing jurisdictions. Municipalities had taxed and regulated cable television as if it were a public utility, and they saw the internet as no different. The United Nations was studying the idea of a global email tax.

In Congress and the White House, preserving the uniquely national and global characteristics of the internet featured more prominently in policy making. In a white paper entitled “The Framework for Global Electronic Commerce,” the White House pointed to “the Internet’s special characteristics” as reason for its concern “about possible moves by state and local tax authorities to target electronic commerce.” The specter of multiple states and municipalities all simultaneously taxing and regulating commerce on the internet was seen as the far greater concern. Congress believed the increase in GDP facilitated by internet commerce would boost state revenues, not cut them.

Legislative History
On March 13, 1997, Representative Cox introduced H.R. 1054, titled the “Internet Tax Freedom Act,” in the U.S. House, and Senator Wyden introduced it in the Senate, where it was designated S. 442. The bill received hearings in both chambers. Cox introduced two updated versions: H.R. 3849, in May 1998; and H.R. 4105, in June 1998, the latter of which passed the U.S. House unanimously in July 1998. Three months later, in October 1998, the Senate passed the companion bill, S. 442, by a vote of 96-2.

The Internet Tax Freedom Act was then added to the omnibus appropriations bill for that year, and signed into law by President Clinton as Titles XI and XII of P.L. 105-277 on October 21, 1998. It is codified at 47 U.S.C. § 151, note.

Prior to the expiration of the law's original ten-year term, Congress extended the Act on multiple occasions. President Barack Obama signed one extension on September 19, 2014, until December 11, 2014; another on December 16, 2014, until October 1, 2015; and a third on September 30, 2015, which extended the Act through December 11, 2015.

Meanwhile, on July 15, 2014, the House passed H.R. 3086, the Permanent Internet Tax Freedom Act, designed to bring an end to the need for extensions by making the Internet Tax Freedom Act permanent. When the Senate took no action on the bill prior to the expiration of the 113th Congress, it was reintroduced as H.R. 235 in the 114th Congress, and the House unanimously approved it on June 9, 2015. The bill was then added to the Trade Facilitation and Trade Enforcement Act of 2015, which passed the House on December 11, 2015 and the Senate on February 11, 2016. President Obama signed it on February 24, 2016, finally making the Internet Tax Freedom Act permanent after nearly two decades.

U.S. Supreme Court Litigation
On June 21, 2018, the U.S. Supreme Court decided South Dakota v. Wayfair, Inc., a case addressing the constitutionality of a state's taxation of ecommerce sales when the seller does not have a physical presence in the state but the buyer lives in said state. In a 5-4 decision, the Court expressly overruled its prior precedent in Quill Corp. v. North Dakota in order to hold that states can tax citizens of other states if they are doing business over the internet. Under Quill and other prior decisions, some physical presence in the state had been required in order for a state to exercise its jurisdiction over nonresidents.

Because the internet reaches into every state, the effect of the Wayfair decision was to expose any person operating a business in a single state to the conflicting sales and use tax rules of thousands of taxing jurisdictions, so long as the business sells via a website — a result the Internet Tax Freedom Act had been meant to avoid. By deciding the case exclusively on constitutional grounds, the Court avoided the statutory issue, but impliedly determined that the Act does not include extraterritorial sales taxes on digital commerce within its definition of banned discriminatory taxes.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jaccolyn Penrose

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Jaccolyn Penrose
No information exists on person outside Wikipedia. No way to verify person's purported accomplishments. Vote to delete article. SwissCelt 23:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Xcali 00:59, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete vanity, unverifiable--Sophitus 01:13, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
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Talk:Airspeed Velocity of an Unladen Swallow

I've gotten permission from the owner of the site that I used. If there any other questions, email me at bestman56@hotmail.com

Before moving to VFD lets just figure out how much of this info we can rearrange into an existing article?

lots of issues | leave me a message 23:47, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

I suppose that makes sense. I apologize if I did something unuseful but I found it hard to find this information and also looked in wikipedia for information and after finding it felt a need to post it on wikipedia. Thanks for understanding.

leave me a message 23:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

from VfD
On 28 May 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. See Votes for deletion/Airspeed Velocity of an Unladen Swallow for a record of the discussion. Rossami (talk) 22:46, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:U.S. Route 24

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Dire Straits had a song called "Telegraph Road"; should we mention that in this article? --SuperDude 23:34, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

 * No. --SPUI (talk) 01:18, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

There have been several interviews where the writer of Telegraph Road talks about that it was written about Telegraph Road in Metro Detroit.

http://www.knopfler.net/telegraph_road/telegraph.html

 * Thanks for that - looks good. --SPUI (talk) 19:56, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Missouri junction list

 * Moving this to talk to hold for future article work but not overwhelm this summary article.  Imzadi 1979  →   22:51, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

West of Minturn, Colorado
There’s no mention of US 24 historically running west of Minturn, Colorado co-signed with US 6 to the Utah/Colorado state line where US 24 oddly ended but US 6 (along with US 50) continued westbound into Utah (this was mostly bypassed by I-70 and the US 6 alignment is spotty west of Minturn). I believe US 24 was co-signed with US 6 until the late 1960s or early 1970s. But why was US 24 co-signed with US 6 in the first place with signage ending strangely at a state line? It seems redundant to me. Does anyone know anything about this historically? 2600:100F:B129:6B25:906D:D96A:C875:E321 (talk) 09:27, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

 * I did find some historical information that US 24 existed until 1975 being co-signed with US 6 as far west as Grand Junction, Colorado. However it still left out any mention of US 24 existing along with US 6 and US 50 between Grand Junction, Colorado and the Utah/Colorado state line. I have seen US 24 on many old road maps existing there. Were the maps incorrect or did US 24 really run west of Grand Junction? 2600:100F:B129:6B25:906D:D96A:C875:E321 (talk) 09:38, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * According to the reports indexed on WP:USRD/AASHTO, US 24 was extended westward from Kansas City, Missouri, to Grand Junction, Colorado, in 1935. There's a request for a relocation of US 6/US 24 between Grand Junction and Fruitvale in 1955. Utah and Colorado requested an extension of US 24 west of Grand Junction to St. George, Utah, at the same meeting, but this request was denied. The highway was then truncated in 1975 (noted by AASHTO at Dowd, which is the location of the junction with US 6 northwest of Minturn). There are no reports of it extending farther west than Grand Junction from 1935 to 1975.  Imzadi 1979  →   10:46, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

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Namaland

Namaland was a Bantustan and then later a non-geographic ethnic-based second-tier authority, the Representative Authority of the Namas, the in South West Africa (present-day Namibia), intended by the apartheid government to be a self-governing homeland for the Nama people. Namaland comprised an area of 2156 km2 and was to accommodate the estimated 34,806 southern Namas of the South West African territory.

The term Namaland also covers a much broader region of southern Namibia which is the traditional home of the northern Nama or Namaqua people. Their language, Nama, is the only surviving dialect of the Khoekhoe language. The suffix -qua means “people” and can be added to the names of most Khoekhoe groups. The region of the Northern Cape south of the Orange River is called Namaqualand.

Background
In the 1960s South Africa, which was administering South West Africa under a League of Nations mandate, came under increased international pressure regarding its minority White rule over the majority of Blacks. The solution envisaged by South Africa—the Odendaal Plan—was to separate the white and the non-white population, grant self-government to the isolated black territories, and thus make Whites the majority population in the vast remainder of the country. Moreover it was envisaged that by separating each ethnic group and confining people by law to their restricted areas, discrimination by race would automatically disappear.

The demarcated territories were called the bantustans, and the remainder of the land was called the Police Zone. Forthwith, all non-white people employed in the Police Zone became migrant workers, and pass laws were established to police movement in and out of the bantustans.

The combined territory of all bantustans was roughly equal in size to the Police Zone. However, all bantustans were predominantly rural and excluded major towns. All harbours, most of the railway network and the tarred road infrastructure, all larger airports, the profitable diamond areas and the national parks were situated in the Police Zone.

Bantustan
For Southern Namibia the Odendaal Plan designated Namaland from four already existing native reserves, Berseba, Tses, the Krantzplatz reserve near Gibeon and the Soromas reserve near Bethanie, plus 165 white-owned farms. Generous offers from the administration to buy these farms from the White settlers lead to many voluntary sales but also raised farm prices in the Police Zone. The townlands of Gibeon were added, and formed the administrative capital of the bantustan. This territory excluded the former Bondels Nama reserve, comprising c. 175000 ha around Warmbad. Its Nama inhabitants were to relocate to the new reserve.

Altogether, Namaland had a size of 2156 km2. 34,806 Nama were estimated to live in the south of South West Africa in the 1960s; all of them were supposed to relocate to the new territory.

Representative authority (1980-1999)
Following the Turnhalle Constitutional Conference the system of Bantustans was replaced in 1980 by Representative Authorities which functioned on the basis of ethnicity only and were no longer based on geographically defined areas.

The Representative Authority of the Namas had executive and legislative competencies, being made up of elected Legislative Assemblies which would appoint Executive Committees led by chairmen.

As second-tier authorities, forming an intermediate tier between central and local government, the representative authorities had responsibility for land tenure, agriculture, education up to primary level, teachers' training, health services, and social welfare and pensions and their Legislative Assemblies had the ability to pass legislation known as Ordinances.

Transition to independence (1989-1990)
Kavangoland, like other homelands in South West Africa, was abolished in May 1989 at the start of the transition to independence.

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Lviv Airlines

Lviv Airlines (Львівські авіалінії) was an airline headquartered on the grounds of Lviv International Airport in Lviv, Ukraine. It operates chartered passenger and cargo services out of Lviv International Airport.

History
The airline was established by Air Ukraine in 1992 from the Lviv Division of the Aeroflot Ukraine Directorate. As of March 2007, it had 446 employees. Since 2009, there are no scheduled services. Its only remaining aircraft is used for charter flights, mostly on behalf of Aerosvit Airlines and Donbassaero.

Fleet
The Lviv Airlines fleet included the following aircraft (at September 2009):

 * 3 Yakovlev Yak-42s

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Eggplant (color)

Eggplant is a dark purple or brownish-purple color that resembles the color of the outer skin of European eggplants. Another name for the color eggplant is aubergine (the French, German and British English word for eggplant).

The first recorded use of eggplant as a color name in English was in 1915.

The pinkish-purple-grayish color shown in the color box as eggplant was introduced by Crayola in 1998.

Eggplant vegetables themselves have many different varieties and may range from indigo to white, but they can also be red or black and other colors. The term eggplant originated as a description of the round, white colored eggplants because they look like eggs. However, this origin became mostly forgotten to the common Western collective as the importation of white eggplants ceded to the purple, leading to the word "eggplant" being associated with purple. In Western cuisines, an exceeding majority of the eggplants eaten are purple. Chinese eggplants are the same shape as a European eggplant but are colored a dark violet color. Thai eggplants are small, round, and colored forest green.

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Talk:ICC Men's Cricket World Cup Qualifier

The link to the "bowling records" page in the appropriate section of the ICC's website is broken (like many other links on the site, actually), hence their lack of inclusion here until an alternative source of data can be found. Loganberry 23:37, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * CricketArchive has solved this particular problem. Loganberry (Talk) 1 July 2005 23:08 (UTC)

Kenya
This from Cricinfo :

''Now the lure is the four-year investment from the ICC and one-day status, on top of the World Cup place. Five places are up for grabs in Ireland - the sixth slot is already guaranteed to Kenya as part of the sweetener for them losing their one-day membership - and those six will get all the benefits until the 2009 ICC Trophy when they will all have to qualify again.''

Loganberry (Talk) 30 June 2005 03:31 (UTC)

That's cricinfo...the name is changed now...look here--Thugchildz 16:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Requested move 9 February 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Consensus to not move. COMMONNAME dispute to be continued in separate move request. (non-admin closure) SocietyBox (talk) 20:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

– Consistency throughout all topics related to the "ICC (Men's) Cricket World Cup", whose common name is "Cricket World Cup". SocietyBox (talk) 22:21, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ICC World Cup Qualifier → Cricket World Cup Qualifier
 * History of the ICC Cricket World Cup → History of the Cricket World Cup
 * ICC Cricket World Cup Super League → Cricket World Cup Super League
 * 2020–23 ICC Cricket World Cup Super League → 2020–23 Cricket World Cup Super League
 * ICC Cricket World Cup League 2 → Cricket World Cup League 2
 * 2019–23 ICC Cricket World Cup League 2 → 2019–23 Cricket World Cup League 2
 * ICC Cricket World Cup Challenge League → Cricket World Cup Challenge League
 * 2019–22 ICC Cricket World Cup Challenge League → 2019–22 Cricket World Cup Challenge League
 * 2023 ICC Cricket World Cup Qualifier Play-off → 2023 Cricket World Cup Qualifier Play-off

 * Oppose Looking at the press releases from the ICC, along with other cricket websites, it seems the common name for these tournaments contains the ICC acronym throughout.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 18:36, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Please explain why your argument doesn't apply for Cricket World Cup as you opposed the move proposal for that in this discussion. SocietyBox (talk) 19:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That page isn't being moved. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 19:49, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Not my point. I just want to know if you oppose consistency or would you agree to changing "Cricket World Cup" to "ICC Cricket World Cup" (different from the July 2020 request which had "Men's") across the board. SocietyBox (talk) 19:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Short answer(s): No and yes. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 19:59, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * When this request gets shut down I'll be proposing that move on your behalf. I can see you'd rather not propose that yourself and have your opinions come under fire. SocietyBox (talk) 20:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

 * Oppose not the WP:COMMONNAME. Someone feel free to nominate the 50 over World Cup article if you want, as renaming that is the easiest way to achieve consistency. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

 * The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sam Spade/Report rogue admin

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User:Sam Spade/Report rogue admin
Personal attacks page. It wouldn't be so egregious, if it weren't for the fact that Jack is signing all of his postings with an enormous link to this page. RickK 23:38, May 28, 2005 (UTC) Jack has changed his signature, I hereby withdraw this VfD. RickK 05:13, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Content deletion because user behavior How dare you Usnigned comment by 63.209.14.211
 * Delete. El_C 23:44, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep user page, thesis inaccurate because there are no personal attacks on the page Click here to report admin abuse 23:44, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * By putting people on a page that is called "Report rougue admin" you are making a personal attack against them. gkhan 11:17, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. We've already got WP:RFC to report abuse of admin powers. This is an unnecessary fork. Mgm|(talk) 23:50, May 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * I think the fact that there is not a single entry on that page is rather telling. This is a badly needed fork. Click here to report admin abuse 23:51, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't see how that tells anything but the fact you haven't posted these complaints there as you should. Mgm|(talk) 23:59, May 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Mgm, Jack has no compelling evidence. Note how historically-vulgar his "evidence" was against myself. This is why he resorts to making such allegations on his user page rather than following policy and appropriate channels (of which he is well aware). A quick glance reveals that his evidence reflects more poorly on him rather than myself. His evidence on socialism: I withdrew out of the Socialism article because Jack used BS in an edit summary to revert my changes. (WP:Civility) His evidence on User:Shonre:   Et cetera, etc. El_C 23:57, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Your building a case against yourself w this "jack" business. See . Click here to report admin abuse 00:00, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 *  What!?  You sent me, personally, and the public mailing list, an email signed as Jack. So I figured that was your name and I can use it interchangebly with Sam Spade. If that isn't the case, you need to explain that beforehand. I am not a telepath. El_C 00:12, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * You needn't take my word for it. Click here to report admin abuse 00:16, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I was too upset to read that closely. Anyway, now I know. El_C 00:22, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * He doesn't like people to refer to him as Jack because he'd rather that people not remember him as Wikipedia contributor User:JackLynch. He'd have more success if he stopped using the name himself! - Nunh-huh 10:15, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as is user page, like the detective agency page we voted to keep, and Sam should be allowed user spaces to work in. At least he is being open, and a Vfd won't stop him, but it will stop others monitoring him, SqueakBox 00:01, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

 * If those reports have any substance they should be posted on RFC and survive it. Like anyone else, Sam may use his userspace to work on such a report before posting, but here he's talking about several admins and he seems to have the intention to keep the edits there. Circumventing the official route shouldn't be allowed. Mgm|(talk) 00:09, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually I am using that page as a staging ground for cases I am building, and the signiture to solicit help, as well as to learn about others who need my help. Click here to report admin abuse 00:15, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * In that case, I would like you to rewrite the introduction of the page to state its intentions more clearly. As they are now, it's completely incomprehensible to me. Secondly, I'd like to ask you to make the signature a bit smaller and maybe make it say just "Report admin abuse", so it's shorter and doesn't take as much space while still being quite visible. Keeping it a normal size and changing the color may attract just as much people and is less intrusive on others. Mgm|(talk) 00:23, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done. I am willing to accomodate reasonable requests, and to engage in constructive dialogue with those who assume good faith. Click here to report admin abuse 00:28, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. The dude has a chip on his shoulder, but so what? You can't censor user pages. If you think the guy is misusing his account, you can ask for sanctions. But it'd be a lot better if you tried to address his complaints. The sad truth is, he has a point -- some admins do not see community building as a priority, and are damned rude to users who question their actions. Isaac R 00:23, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * we can censor user pages (mostly under dissurption and personal attack rules). generaly however we do try to avoid doing this.Geni 00:41, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Right, I shouldn't have said "can't". But you don't without a good reason. I don't see any good reasons here. Hurt feelings? Isaac R 01:07, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete. Abstain. While it is true that many users do keep 'evidence' pages in their user space, for example in preparation for possible ArbCom disputes, the way this page is structured ("Report Rogue admins below, and / or contribute specific cites of their policy violations"), and also advertised through the signature, circumvents the established process for dealing with complaints against admins. This is not an evidence page, it poses as WP:RFC. This may very well confuse newbies and others. I will change to abstain if Sam Spade's signature is changed to not link to this page. --bainer (talk) 00:26, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I note that Sam Spade has changed the page to now read "The purpose of this page is compile data for upcoming RfC's and Arb Com cases." see diff This occurred three minutes after my vote. I maintain my position that this page was not created with these purposes in mind. --bainer (talk) 00:42, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * See my comment to MGM above. Sam Spade 00:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I changed to abstain, as my concerns were resolved. --bainer (talk) 01:04, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete (and sanction user). 172 00:30, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep if Sam promises to go back to using a sensible sig (linking to his normal user page and of normal font size), otherwise delete. — Chameleon 00:32, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, unnecessary fork of RfC procedure. It is ok to have a space for preparation of evidence, but soliciting for abuses is ambulance chasing (imho) which (again imho) is not within the Wikipedia philosophy. Thryduulf 00:46, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Following his removal of my report from the page it is clear he is only interested in those administrators he has grievances against. Thryduulf 01:03, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Of course he deleted it. The page is for reporting administrators who abuse their powers. If you feel admins are abused, you can go elsewhere. Mgm|(talk) 01:15, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Agree with Chameleon. Is there any way we can just force a change of the sig? Xcali 00:58, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * He's changed it voluntarily. It's done. See his user talk page for confirmation. --Silversmith 01:08, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Delete ➥the Epopt 14:08, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Sam, would you be willing to change more text in the intro. Admins have more than job security, they have a mandate to abuse, harass and shame ordinary users and anons. and While they protect one another in the same fashion in which they bully others are generalizations which could well be considered an personal attack against all admins. Mgm|(talk) 01:15, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, user space. If there's a problem with his sig, that's a separate issue. --SPUI (talk) 01:22, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, user page. 578 (Yes?) 01:23, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Normally I don't have a problem with user pages that are even remotely related to the work being done here, but IMO this one's masquerading as some sort of Wikipedia namespace page. Sam has deleted entries from here without comment and deleted objections to specific reports that admins have put here in their own defence, and presumably if someone were to contest these detetions the fact that it's Sam's user page would automatically weight the argument in his favor. This should be in the Wikipedia namespace or it should be made far more clear on the page that this is Sam's personal space rather than anything "official". Bryan 01:46, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, free speech on user namespace. — Phil Welch 02:11, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and sanction user. This is taking things way too far. I'm not supporting this witchhunt so that Sam can try to chase the very hard-working admins on his hitlist off Wikipedia. Sam, if you have an issue with people, use the dispute resolution process, rather than acting in apparent bad faith like this. Ambi 02:56, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Free speech is the pinnacle of what the Wikipedia stands for — slander, however, is not. Wally 03:14, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep but suggest that his sig be changed (smaller please?) . Users have, in the past, used their userspace to gather evidence against others. They have the right, I just wished that they wouldn't use that right. BrokenSegue 03:16, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. A provocative and possibly libelous troll. Sunray 04:10, 2005 May 29 (UTC)
 * This is a tricky one; I don't see this benefiting wikipedia in it's current form though, and in the end that trumps any legalism or ideals about freedom on user pages. If Sam wants to prepare an arbitration case he's free to do so, many people have done so on subpages of their user page without any serious objections, however this is just trolling. Delete. --W(t) 04:54, 2005 May 29 (UTC)
 * Delete. This doesn't do anybody any good. In fact the "list of rogue admins" and "list of admins you can trust" that Sam Spade has made could potentially start fighting between administrators. --Chanting Fox 04:56, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. User page, not an article.  Kaibabsquirrel 05:00, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep.Vorash 05:08, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Something needs to be done about rogue admins, and I don't mind Sam working on whatever he works on in his userspace anyway. The fact that this would be VfDed and people would vote delete strongly suggests that criticism of admins is not acceptable on Wikipedia and will be punished—essentially, that people are not allowed to criticize the actions of people in positions of power. I suppose some people can justify that, but I think authoritarianism in the project is dangerous. Everyking 06:28, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Why yes, of course — this VfD in combination with the one on WP:RFC certainly makes your point. Of course, if there were no attmpt to remove WP:RFC, then your claim wouldn't make any sense, but... oh, wait... Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 11:55, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's Sam Spade's own user space, so we don't place as many restrictions on the content as perhaps elsewhere on the wiki. Sam Spade is not the only user to list in his personal user space the admins he does and does not like. However, I'd appreciate it if he toned down the content of the article to resemble less of a personal attack, and more of a simple log of information. I understand that there are always some nasty conflicts between users on Wikipedia, but the less the outside world sees of it, the better. I am pleased to see, however, that Sam Spade has agreed to change his signature. - Mark 07:23, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Neutral. There is no point just deleting Sam's page; there will be others, and not just by him. If you feel such pages shouldn't be on WP, then do something more determined about it, don't just focus on one. -- Silversmith Hewwo 10:00, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - Just a front for more sinister activities - max rspct 10:05, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. There are appropriate places to complain about "abusive" administrators, and sub-user-pages aren't one of them. We don't need to host potentially slanderous essays here. - Nunh-huh 10:15, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. It is a personal attack to post people here because of (for instance) the page title. You are in effect saying that they are lousy admins which is a personal attack. If you want to build a case against someone, do it on the page User:SamSpade/RFC against XXX. And most importantly don't advertise it, that makes it 100x worse. gkhan 11:24, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. OK, I was happy to leave it if it only concerned me; I think that it makes   SS   look silly, but that's his affair.  Still, it affects others, and it sets a bad precedent.  I agree with Silversmith, though, that there should be a policy on this, not just a case-by-case debate. Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 11:55, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete reluctantly. There is nothing here that cannot be dealt with much, much better on WP:RFC without use of user subpages. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 13:03, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, nomination has been withdrawn. Kappa 13:18, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. RFC, RFM and RFAr are the dispute resolution process. Personal vendettas are harmful to Wikipedia. The mailing list can sometimes help, but not as a rule. Leaving Wikipedia is also possible. JFW | T@lk  13:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * keep totally inappropriate but it is his user page. Sam Spade has changed his signature so that is progress. Andries 14:44, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, userspace is sacred to be deleted at the discretion of the owner. Alphax τεχ 15:57, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Userspace is granted to further the development of Wikipedia; it is not sacred, and it is certainly not for trolling. Wile E. Heresiarch 18:20, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. As a user space opinion, this isn't so bad. Widespread advertising of it might be prohibted though, as a cause of disruption. Pcb21| Pete 19:41, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. (anon vote) I suggest for the sake of fairness, balance, and symmetry that the existing anti-Sam Spade group formalize its existence with a user page to "compile data for upcoming RfC's and Arb Com cases against Sam Spade." They admit they attack him when he does things they wouldn't attack others for because they say his past behavior makes it ok not to give him the benefit of the doubt. Well, let BOTH sides keep track of their complaints on these twin user pages and all of us can see by the evidence they gather who is doing what. I bet both sides would act better. 4.250.168.100 20:40, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Given that RickK hsas withdrawn the Vfd why are we voting on it still. Surely the Vfd notice should now be removed from the article, SqueakBox 20:46, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Have we decided that people are allowed to do that?Geni 20:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Withdrawing a nomination only stops the voting if it's done before other people vote, or if everyone voted "keep". Of course, to avoid discussions, usually someone else who voted "delete" steps up to replace the original nominator. (This is all from personal experience; I don't recall seeing a policy or guideline about it.) --cesarb 21:14, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I do not recall seeing any set guideline either. But as long as there are people on both sides on the debate, I think it should be continued so that others can make an opinion (like me). Zzyzx11 (Talk) 21:43, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Abstain. I do not see that there is any point to just delete user pages if they want to use them to criticise admins. On the other hand, I am unsure where to draw the line between constructive criticism and blatant personal attacks. Maybe we should move this debate to a policy discussion page when this VFD has run its course. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 21:43, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

 * We tried that a few weeks back. Nothing happened it appears that the consensus is that the stautus quo is ok.Geni 21:52, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * You mean a policy discussion like the last one? --cesarb 21:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment, sigh... Sam sure keeps this place fun, huh? ;-) func (talk) 00:29, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not in the spirit of wikikpedia and as MGM notes above WP:RFC already exists to report abuse of admin powers. FeloniousMonk 01:44, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep since it is in userspace. I think RfC is a better place to discuss this if that is needed. Sjakkalle 06:55, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep because users should be allowed to compile evidence for dispute resolution in their own user space, no matter how idiotic the position they support is and also because nomination has been withdrawn already. jni 08:25, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep, and request that I be watched very carefully over the coming months. You just can't be too careful, you know! - Ta bu shi da yu 08:28, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep, as it's userspace and all. Let Sam Spade have...well, whatever the heck this is supposed to be, I guess. A Man In Black 09:02, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, its in userspace. Allegations of rogue admin's would have to be documented, and there is no enforcement mechanism without proper RfAr, etc. If there is real evidence reported there what is the use of deleting it other than to suppress that information. Trödel| talk 20:35, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

I requested it be deleted due to concerns that it was creating an unpleasent work environment. See also Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents. Sam Spade 23:58, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Pachypodium ambongense

Pachypodium ambongense is a species of plant in the family Apocynaceae. It was first published as a species of the genus Pachypodium in 1924 by the botanist Henri Louis Poisson.

Having a habit as a shrub that is 1-2 m and bottle-shaped, Pachypodium ambongense inhabits the western low, open deciduous forest of Madagascar on a substrate of Mesozoic calcareous rock. It is fairly rare to the landscape, perhaps, suggesting a more specialized environment needed for it to grow. It is known by common name in Madagascar as "Songosongo" or "Betono."

Habit
As a shrub 1-2 m high with a subglobose, not entirely spherical, laterally compressed, flattened on a side habit; it has a diameter ranging from 10-40 cm. Overall it resembles a bottle-shape in habit.

The bark is grey-green and smooth or it has leaf scars. Overall Pachypodium ambongense has a bottle-shaped profile. Its short branches form right below the terminal inflorescence and measure from 7-18 cm in diameter. P. ambongense's branchlets are 18-40 x. They are covered with paired straight spines, 20-100 x at the base. When young they are sparsely pubescent, or hairy.

Leaves
The leaves are confined near the apices, the apex or the highest point, of the branchlets. They are petiolate, meaning that they have a leave stalk. The petiole, or stalk roughly, is 2-10 mm long. While being sparsely pubescent and hairy, the blade(s) are dark green with a midrib that is pale green above and pale green to pale grey beneath when fresh. When dry, the leave is papery. They are shaped as being (I) ovate--broad and rounded at the base and tapering toward the end—to (II) obovate--egg-shaped and flat, like ovate, but with a narrower end—measuring 1.9 to 3.4 times as long as they are wide. Therefore, the leaves often range in size from 3.5 cm (1.38 inch) to 9 cm (0.35 inch) in length by 1.5 cm (0.59 inch) to 3 cm (1.18 inch) in width. They are obtuse--having a blunt or rounded tip—to rounded in shape at the apex. Cuneate--wedge-shaped, narrowly triangular at the base—or decurrent--having the leaf base that extends down the stem below its point of insertion—into the petiole, the leaves have a margin that is revolute, the margins rolled backwards, and glabrous, smooth above with impressed reticulate venation. They are densely pubescent, hairy, underneath with a midrib and secondary veins prominently showing. There are 23 to 32 secondary veins in pairs, which are straight at the base, up curved at the apex, and forming an angle of 45-85° with the Costa, the rib, ridge in a midrib of a leaf. The tertiary venation is reticulate, either making a net or network of veins or marking with lines resembling a network. They are hidden by the indumentum, any covering of hairs etc., beneath the leaf.

Inflorescence
The inflorescence is sessile, with a petiolate or stalk, or shortly pedunculate, a short main axis of the entire inflorescence. Its flower is congested with dimensions that read 6 cm (0.24 inch) to 8 cm (0.32 inch) by 3 cm (1.18 inch) to 5 cm (1.97 inch). The inflorescence has 1 to 8 flowers. The peduncle, again the main axis of the inflorescence, is dark green and is 0 mm (0 inch) to 5 mm (0.20 inch) in length by 2 mm (0.08 inch) by 4 mm (0.16 inch) in width. The inflorescence is sparsely pubescent to glabrous. The pedicels, the stalks of single flowers, are green, 4 mm (0.16 inch) to 10 mm (0.39 inch) long, and sparsely pubescent to glabrous. Bracts, for the inflorescence, are ovate, flattened egg-shaped, 2 mm (0.8 inch) by 1 mm (0.04 inch), and acuminate, tapering gradually to a sharp point, at the apex. The bracts are pubescent outside and glabrous inside.

Flower
The flowers of Pachypodium ambongense have sepals that are pale green. (Usually all sepals are some shade of green.) The sepals are connate at the base, uniting the sepals into one morphological structure, for about 0.2 mm (0.007 inch). They are persistent, lasting past maturity without falling off, and ovate--flattened egg shaped profile—or narrowly ovate. They measure 1.5 mm (.059 inch) to 2 mm (0.079 inch) long insomuch as they are wide at 3 mm (0.118 inch) to 4 mm (0.159 inch) by 2 mm (0.079 inch) to 2.2 mm (0.087 inch). The sepals are acuminate, ending in a point at the apex, and can have stiff hairs at the apex. The sepals are typically sparsely pubescent, hairy, or glabrous, smooth, outside, and almost always glabrous inside.

Corolla
The corolla of Pachypodium ambongense is limb white with the tube being pale greenish-yellow outside and with a throat that is yellowish-green inside. It measures 4.3 cm (0.17 inch) to 6 cm (0.24 inch) long in the mature bud and forms a comparatively wide broadly ovoid, shaped like an egg--ovate-like without being flat—head, which is 3.8 cm (1.5 inch) to 4.0 cm (0.16 inch) of the bud length. The head of the corolla appears to be 17 mm (0.67 inch) by 23 mm (0.91 inch) in length by 4 mm (0.16 inch) to 10 mm (0.39 inch) in width. It is obtuse, having a blunt or rounded tip, at the apex. As well, the head of the corolla is glabrous, smooth outside, with a sparsely pubescent, hairy belt inside that is 7 mm (0.28 inch) wide and located just below the insertion point of the stamens. Otherwise, the corolla head is glabrous with a tube that is 10.5 to 12.3 times as long as the calyx, the outermost series of leaves, collectively called the sepals. Moreover the calyx is 1.4 to 1.8 times as long as the lobes, measuring at 3.7 cm (1.46 inch) to 4.2 cm (1.65 inches) long. The basal part of the corolla tube is narrowly cylindrical and is half of the length of the entire tube at 19 mm (0.75 inch) to 21 mm (0.83 inch) in length by 1.5 mm (0.059 inch) to 2 mm (0.079 inch) wide. The upper segment of the basal part is urceolate, or urn-shaped, and clearly narrowed at the throat, measuring 18 mm (.71 inch) to 21 mm (0.83 inch) long by 3mm (0.12 inch) by 4 mm (0.16 inch) wide at the mouth. The corolla lobes are obliquely ovate, a flatten egg-shape profile—running at 0.52 to 0.7 times as long as the corolla tube, which is 1.6 to 2 times as long it is wide. It measures 21 mm (.83 inch) to 30 mm (1.18 inch) by 11 mm (0.43 inch) to 15 mm (0.59 inch). The corolla lobes are obtuse at the apex of the tube.

Stamens
The stamens, the male reproductive "organ" of a flower, have an apex that is 6 mm (0.24 inch) below the mouth of the corolla tube. They are inserted--below the sepals and petals of a flower—at 0.62 of the length of the corolla tube with a total length of 2.5 cm (0.98 inch) from the base. The anthers are very narrowly triangular at 5.25 to 5.75 times as long they are wide at 10.5 mm (0.41 inch) to 11.5 (0.45 inch) mm by 2 mm (0.078 inch). They are sparsely pubescent, hairy inside at the base of the connective, just below where they are located at the base of the pistil head. The fertile part of the pistil is 5 mm (0.20 inch) long. The stamens have an apex of 6 mm (0.24 inch) below the mouth of the corolla tube, inserted at 0.62 of the length of the corolla tube. That places it 2.5 cm (0.98 inch) from the base. Again the anthers are very narrowly triangular, 5.25-5.75 times as they are long as they are wide at 10.5 to 11.5 time 2 mm (0.078 inch). The anthers are sparsely pubescent inside at the base of the connective and just below where they occur with the base of the pistil head.

Pistils
The pistil, the female organ of reproduction in a flower, on Pachypodium ambongense is 2.7 cm (01.06 inch) long. The ovary is 2 times 1.3 mm (0.51 inch) times 1.2 mm (0.47 inch). It is glabrous, and its disk is urceolate, urn-shape, 2.5 mm (0.98 inch) high. The pistil abruptly narrows at the throat. It is 5-lobed at the apex and entirely covers the ovary. The glabrous, smooth style--the usually slender part of a pistil, situated between the ovary and the stigma—is 22.7 mm (0.89 inch) long where it widens at the apex. The pistil head is 2.3 mm (.091 inch) high composed of an obconical--conical, but having the apex downward; inversely conical—basal part 1.3 times 0.6 mm (0.024 inch). The basal part has a ring-shaped central part 0.5 times 1.3 mm (0.051 inch) and a stigmoid--resembling the letter "S" or the lower-case Greek letter sigma (ς)--apex half the 0.9 mm (0.0395 inch). The ovules are approximately 50 in count in each carpel--one of the structural units of a pistil, representing a modified, ovule-bearing leaf.

Fruit
Rapanarivo et al. base this data on Lavranos' earlier work

The fruit of Pachypodium ambongense consists of two mericaps, a carpel with one seed or one of a pair split apart at maturity. The mericaps are dark brown outside and whitish inside when dried. They are fusiform, tapering at each end and spindle-shaped. They measure approximately 15 cm (5.91 inch) in length and 1 cm (3.94 inch) in width. The encasement wall of the seeds is thin at 0.5 mm ( .0.020 inch) thick.

Distribution
Endemic to Madagascar. The Namoroka Nat. 8. Rare in the landscape.

Ecology
Pachypodium ambongense grows on strongly eroded, Mesozoic calcareous rocks where the fissures are filled with humus. in the low open deciduous forest of the Western Forest zone, tolerating full sun to part sun. This habitat is consistency with the general tendency of Pachypodium to inhabit the western side of the island. Growing on a calcareous substrate suggests that this plant prefers only basic soil conditions, as Rapanarivo et al. did not find P. ambongense growing on other substrates as some species of Pachypodium do. Also its preference for low open forest mean that it can be found growing at an altitude of 100 m (328 feet) or less.

The plants that are often associated with its habitat are: Adenia firingalavensis Harms (Passifloraceae); Aloe sp. (Asphodelaceae); Cissus sp. (Vitaceae); Euphorbia viguieri (Euphorbiaceae); Lomatophyllum sp. (Liliaceae); Pachypodium rutenbergianum (Apocynaceae); Pandanus sp. (Pandanaceae); Uncarina sakalava Uncarina perrieri (Pedaliaceae); and Xerosicyos perrieri (Cucurbitaceae). Associated plants are key to understanding the ecology of a taxon because they often act as site indicators as to what the habitat consists of in the landscape and within the climate.

Based on W. Röösli within Rapanarivo et al. "Cultivation"
The[substrate should be loose peat with lime gravel. Temperatures from Spring to Autumn, as varied by night and day, should be between 18 °C (64.4 °F) and 38 °C (100.4 °F). To keep it in the winter temperatures should be between nocturnal 15 °C (59 °F) and diurnal 20 °C (68 °F). While in the dry season, moisten the soil only when the soil dries out completely, then only water slightly; so that the soil does not dry out completely. After the dry season, it needs a lot of water. It flowers after the Dry Season. When the Dry Season begins it does not say by Röösli or Rapanarivo et al.'s account of the habitat. Presumably, Winter would be the dry season unless otherwise noted, as is the case for Pachypodium namaquanum. In fact, Rowley states that all Pachypodium can be kept growing year round so long the temperature is like normal growing temperatures, which can be achieved under lights and in a Greenhouse. Growing year-round would likely interfere with the taxon's bloom cycle, it stand to reason.

Literature

 * Rapanarivo, S.H.J.V., Lavranos, J.J., Leeuwenberg, A.J.M., and Röösli, W. Pachypodium (Apocynaceae): Taxonomy, habitats and cultivation "Taxonomic revision of the genus Pachyypodium", S.H.J.V. Rapanarivo and J.J. Lavranos; "The habitats of Pachyppodium species" S.H.J.V. Rapanarivo; "Cultivation" W. Röösli.  (A.A. Balkema:  Rotterdam, Brokkfield, 1999) [The rest of the list is based on Rapanarivo et al.]
 * In 1924, Henri Louis Poisson published Pachypodium ambongense in the journal abbreviated "Bull. Acad. Malgache" sér. 2, 6: 162, pl. 5 (1924).
 * The botanists Perrier de la Bâthie published a further account in "Bulletin de la Société Botanique de France." 81: 307 (1934).
 * The botanist Marcel Pichon mentions the taxon in abbreviated from "Mem. Inst. Sc. Madag.", sér. B, 2: 112 (1949) in 1949.
 * Most recently, Friedrich Markgraf in 1976 published an account of the taxon in "Fl. Madag." fam. 169: 288 (1976).

The type specimen for Pachypodium ambongense is: Madagascar, Majunga (Mahajanga), Namoroka Res., Perrier de la Bâthie 1515 (holotype P). Fig. 1, p. 11; Map 1, p. 12; Plate 1, opposite p. 16.

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Talk:Telemark skiing

pinhead?
The disambiguation page Pinhead mentions it as a nickname for telemark skiers. No such reference here. I have no clue, but it sounds unlikely to me. Could someone who knows if it isn't true have a look? Tenbergen (talk) 01:12, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

From personal experience, I know that "pinhead" as a term for a telemark skier was common in 1990's Colorado. --Dcfleck (talk) 20:28, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

History
It is my understanding that this turn was not "invented" by sondre nordheim, simply brought to the attention of the world skiing community by him. It has been around for far longer right? -- Ochotona (talk) 00:58, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Bindings
The section on equiptment has to be cleaned up and the various bindings mentioned. As an example; the current version indicates that all bindings have three pins. I'll try to come back to this soon when time permits.--Swift 19:46, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

"50% to 60% of the body weight is distributed on the outside ski, depending on snow conditions." makes no sense —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.96.244 (talk) 12:05, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

G-3 bindings are composed of the next generation technology in the spring pack design of traditional heel spring/toe clamp style bindings. With over a thousand days skiing in the telemark I believe they are the most traditional feeling telemark set up available when used in conjunction with modern skis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brentos8150 (talk • contribs) 09:54, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

The article says: "Oftentimes the heel is attached to the front of the binding by a hinged cable, which holds the ski boot firmly in the binding. These bindings are often non-releasable.[1]" In fact, free heel cable bindings are releasable despite not having a specific release mechanism as with alpine bindings. They release when a fall or extreme turn stretches the cable sufficiently to allow the toe of the boot to become dislodged from the binding. The exception is cable bindings with 3 pins, but even these usually release under heavy torque. ---Dagme (talk) 16:16, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Competion Event
I'm watching the Telemark World Cup even in Rjukan, Norway on tv right now, and they called the event "Telemark Sprint". However, unlike what's described in the section in the article, they use the freestyle cross-country-skiing technique.

--Unclevortex 00:39, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Weight distribution
I have edited the statements about even weight distribution over both skiis. This is completely wrong. I have skied Telemark for most of my life having grown up in Norway and have recieved instruction from a lot of excellent skiers there. They have all consistently said that the way to ski Telemark is to put your weight on the outer ski. This enable faster, tighter and more powerful turns. I must make it clear that though this is the optimal way to ski Telemark, it is perfectly possible however to use even weight distribution if you are just going for a quiet relaxing ski. My other changes were minor. Cheers --Hugin&Munin 22:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure where the idea that the weight should be put on the outside ski comes from. I am aware that telemark racers do this when skiing gates, but when someone puts too much weight on the lead ski while recreational skiing, it's not usually considered good form. The popular term used in the US for placing too much weight on the lead ski is "fakamarking", recognizing that the trailing ski needs to be engaged in the turn to really obtain the feeling that most enjoy, as well as being able to control the rear ski. With shaped and softer skis, parallel skiing has evolved into more of a two footed technique, and if you wish to carve both the rear and the lead ski in a telemark turn, you just can not leave only 20% of your weight on the back ski.

Notably, in powder, trying to obtain even weighting between skis is important for equal flotation of the skis.

Try to Google telemark weight distribution to find what the consensus on this is. --Johnleeinslc 01:19, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I also dispute the idea that as a basic notion up to 80% of the skier's weight should be on the outside ski, or that weight on the rear ski should top out at 50%. I also dispute the statement that "turns are led with the heel flat on the outside ski," as some turns can result in slight front heel lift as the skier drives the front of the front boot forward.  Others may disagree.  So my basic suggestion is this: the description of the basics of the turn in the initial paragraph and the initial paragraph of the "Technique" section should be stripped to the bare minimum (feet staggered fore and aft, trailing heel lifted), and remaining aspects of technique should focus on variances and the debate surrounding them, similar to the treatment of stagger.  We should note that technique continues to evolve, particularly in light of recent equipment evolution.  Perhaps we could also include a statement that freeheeling more about freedom than rigid formalism?.  Freeheel 2:17, 26 September 2006 (PDT)
 * Excellent suggestion! --Swift 00:36, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Three bin bindings usage
Recently there was the following change in the Telemark section: "Bindings hold the Telemark boot to the ski by the toe only. Three-pin bindings are now rarely found i in lift-accessed terrain" Is this to mean that terrain not accessible by means of lifts, has a high number of three-pin bindings? What exactly is a lift-accessible terrain? The slopes that lead down from the lifts, or also areas which skiers might use lifts for some elevation gain?

The phrasing is vague and unless someone improves on it or objects, I will remove it.--Swift 17:48, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

 * And now it has been changed to

"Bindings hold the Telemark boot to the ski by the toe only. Three-pin bindings are now rarely used for lifted resort skiing"
 * Thanks for the suggestion Shogun, but the clause still sort of implies that three pin bindings are commonly used where there are no lifts in sight. Can anyone corroborate this? If not I'd like to revert it to the sweeping statement that three-pin-bindings are a dying breed, on piste and off. --Swift 03:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Hinged plate bindings
Hinged plate bindings are becoming more and more popular for telemark skiing. Look at http://www.linken.com/ and http://www.bombertele.com websites. In the article hinged plate bindings are mentioned in connection with alpine touring, which is right, but so are the three-pin and cable bindings. But when you have the ability to lock the heel down, you do not have a telemark binding. Those are called randonnè bindings, and are in general alpine/slalom bindings that you can use for walking. When I was in the USA some people used the term "Freeheel skiing" when they were talking about telemark skiing. This might be a good place to start when writing about the bindings on telemark skis. --hhagelin@gmail.com (sorry for not logging in) 12:33 CET 15 December 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.48.23.17 (talk) 11:34, 15 December 2006 (UTC).

Hinged plate bindings are becoming more popular? I don't agree. Linken was so UNpopular that it went bankrupt and was bought out. Early problems with balling snow underfoot may have doomed the binding from the start. Bomber Tele is a boutique binding with a small but loyal following. Johnleeinslc (talk) 01:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Photos
I think better photos could be found for this article. At the moment neither of them do much to show the particulars of telemark skiing. The photos should be taken at such an angle to distinctly show the loose heel. I'm not even sure if a picture in powder is necessary, unless if it also shows the telemark style clearly. Icemuon 11:31, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Were it not for powder skiing,it would be hard to imagine a telemark resurgence. Powder skiing ought to be represented in the photos since it represents such a large reason for telemark skiings popularity. johnleeinslc 16 August, 2007

Wax
I'm fairly certain that Telemark skis require some type of wax(es). Anyone care to address this topic? Fuzzform (talk) 06:42, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Waxing is the same as for alpine skis (meaning in my case I ought to wax my skis more, but often I go without), unless you are talking about touring skis with waxless (fish scale) bases, which are used for ascending without skins. Those don't take regular alpine ski wax.  IIRC "glide liquid" (may be a Swix TM) is available for waxless bases; I think it's targeted for cross-country skis, but I bet you could use it on anything.  This leads me to think that some discussion of touring skis, skins, and going uphill might be appropriate for this article  Freeheel 171.68.18.54 (talk) 01:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, But...
...what is it? There's a little information about the history of Telemark skiing, but that's all. As a non-skier, I find myself not noticeably better-informed than I was before I read the article. I think it would be good if someone who actually knows about the style/technique wrote a more descriptive article, including what makes it unique, and perhaps a discussion of advantages and disadvantages.

* Septegram * Talk * Contributions * 15:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Wallaby

Joey
Is a young wallaby called a "joey"?

Seeing as how im aliased after a wallaby, i'll answer this! ... All Macropods' (Kangaroos and of the like) young are called Joeys. --Wallaby 10:40, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Diet
It would be useful if someone would add information about what wallabies eat. JamesMLane t c 08:15, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

The link below says that they are herbivores, eating mostly leaves and grass, though some species of wallabies and kangaroos eat fruit, seeds and fungi. RamseyPalace (talk) 11:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC) http://animals.jrank.org/pages/2695/Wallabies-Kangaroos-Macropodidae.html

I’ve actually recently completed a recent self indulged research project on this topic.

The information is readily available and easier quoted from reliable sources. I’d be happy to take this up, not difficult to expand upon this rather inadequate section! Amf08006 (talk) 00:11, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Height & weight
How big are they?

They're about yea big. Give or take. lol Actually, I'm wondering that myself.(PowerGamer6 17:43, 13 April 2006 (UTC))

 * I'm no expert in this, but from the wallabies that I've seen/met/touched, they're about 40 cm, more or less. So it's considerably smaller than kangaroo. (LittleWhisky 09:42, 27 October 2007 (UTC))

Antibiotic
Someone should add info about the wallaby milk containing a strong antibiotic —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.230.150.5 (talk • contribs).
 * Why don't you add it, if you have a good reference that says it is so. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Species
yea, all these species are great, but which ones are the domesticated ones, and the wild ones and where? I'm doing a project... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.56.117.72 (talk • contribs).
 * As far as I know, there are no domesticated wallabies. All are wild. --liquidGhoul 02:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Albino Wallaby Picture
This marvelous creauture is an Albino Wallaby who lives in Woburn Safari Park with some Rheas and also some Red Necked Wallaby. Next to them live some Squirrel Monkeys. I have put this picture so people: 1.Can see my work. 2.So people can see this magnifivent creature. 3.To make this page look more beautiful. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Barbary lion (talk • contribs) 07:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC).

And I'v removed it because it is fuzzy. Please do not upload fuzzy images. Please do not place images at the top of articles in this manner. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Multiple wallabies
What is the term for a group of wallabies? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dbgrabill (talk • contribs).
 * Apparently, it's a mob according to www.crystalinks.com/kangaroos.html, but I can't access that site from work. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * According to Dictionary.com, any group or flock of animals in Australia is a mob. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:26, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Recent Vandlism
I have seen alot of recent vandlism to Wallaby and I suggest to semi-protect it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drestros power (talk • contribs) 18:49, 9 May 2007 (UTC).

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And there's been some not so recent vandalism. The entire page was blank a few months ago. Plus, someone took out the size approximations. So I second this call to protect the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Do you guys think the protected status explains why this page is so inadequately filled out?

There’s a trade off, yes vandalism is going to occur on unprotected pages, but those pages tend to mature faster as well.

Frankly, the information is sorely lacking in this article. It might be worth reconsidering the status. After all preserving a page add the expense of curating valuable content is a little silly Amf08006 (talk) 00:14, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Conservation Status
Any ideas, guys? (LittleWhisky 09:46, 27 October 2007 (UTC))
 * Species get conservation status. Higher order groupings do not. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:39, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Removal of trivia section
Can't we move the trivia item (it's not even trivia) to a headying with the rocko's item and put the heading as wallaby's in media or something like that but makes sense.

Pinothyj (talk) 03:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)…

Stoned wallabies and cropped circles
Australian government official reported wallabies entering poppy fields are creating crop circles as they hop around "high as a kite" after eating opium poppies. Peanutmuachi (talk) 13:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Taxobox
There was a taxobox in this article, however 'wallaby' is a common name that does not refer to a single taxon. cygnis insignis 18:05, 1 October 2009 (UTC) y —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.56.169.72 (talk) 04:02, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 March 2013
I would like to add the following link to External links. Thanks!

 * View the wallaby genome in Ensembl

Gspudich (talk) 14:53, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Mdann52 (talk) 14:59, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2019
Please replace "red necked wallaby" with "red-necked wallaby" in the image caption. 192.180.76.49 (talk) 03:28, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done, thanks, NiciVampireHeart 11:31, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Dwarf wallabies
In this article, dwarf wallabies are classified as a member of the genus Macropus. I have not been able to confirm that they are a member of this genus. Science Daily does, however, state that they are a member of the Dorcopsulus genus, taxonomised as Dorcopsulus sp. nov. EGKangaroo (talk) 17:21, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Three animals wrongly classified and one animal missing.

 * What I think should be changed: Under the Species section on the Wallaby page, the Genus Lagostrophus includes three animals from the Genus Lagorchestes. Genus Lagorchestes should have its own list as it contains four animals, and the Spectacled hare-wallaby is completely missing from the whole list.
 * Why it should be changed: On the wikipedia for Macropodidae under the Classification section, Genus Lagostrophus and Genus Lagorchestes are separate and do not include the same animals and Genus Lagostrophus are apart of a different subfamily compared to the Genus Lagorchestes. There are three animals apart of Genus Lagorchestes which are categorized under the wrong genus and one animal from the genus missing from the whole list on the Wallaby Species section.
 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

2001:8003:D945:4B01:EC47:E723:1F29:7BE0 (talk) 14:35, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Bit hard to parse, but correct. Split off genus Lagorchestes and added Lagorchestes conspicillatus. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:15, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

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Victoria Memorial, London

The Victoria Memorial is a monument to Queen Victoria, located at the end of The Mall in London by the sculptor Sir Thomas Brock. Designed in 1901, it was unveiled on 16 May 1911, though it was not completed until 1924. It was the centrepiece of an ambitious urban planning scheme, which included the creation of the Queen’s Gardens to a design by Sir Aston Webb, and the refacing of Buckingham Palace (which stands behind the memorial) by the same architect.

Like the earlier Albert Memorial in Kensington Gardens, commemorating Victoria's consort, the Victoria Memorial has an elaborate scheme of iconographic sculpture. The central pylon of the memorial is of Pentelic marble, and individual statues are in Lasa marble and gilt bronze. The memorial weighs 2,300 tonnes (about 2535 short tons) and is 104 ft in diameter. In 1970 it was listed at Grade I.

Proposal and announcements
King Edward VII suggested that a joint Parliamentary committee should be formed to develop plans for a Memorial to Queen Victoria following her death. The first meeting took place on 19 February 1901 at the Foreign Office, Whitehall. The first secretary of the committee was Arthur Bigge, 1st Baron Stamfordham. Initially these meetings were behind closed doors, and the proceedings were not revealed to the public. However the Lord Mayor of London, Sir Joseph Dimsdale, publicly announced that the committee had decided that the memorial should be "monumental". Reginald Brett, 2nd Viscount Esher, the secretary of the committee, submitted the proposal to the King on 4 March 1901. A number of sites were suggested, and the King visited both Westminster Abbey and the park near the Palace of Westminster. Several ideas were rumoured at this time, including an open square in The Mall near to the school Duke of York Column, and a memorial located in Green Park.

On 26 March the decision was announced to locate the memorial outside Buckingham Palace and slightly shorten The Mall. It was estimated that the work would cost £250,000 and decided that there would be no grant given by the Government to the construction. Once the site was selected, a competition was conducted for the design. Five architects were chosen to develop designs. This phase lasted until the beginning of July 1901, when the committee selected its primary choice for the construction and took it to the King for approval. It was announced on 21 October 1902 that Thomas Brock had been chosen as the designer. The expectation was that the memorial would cost £200,000.

Funding and construction
Funding for the memorial was gathered from around the British Empire as well as the public. The Australian House of Representatives granted a £25,000 contribution for the construction on 17 October 1905. The New Zealand government submitted a cheque for £15,000 towards the fund. By October 1901 some £154,000 had been gathered for the construction of the memorial. During 1902 a number of tribes from the west coast of Africa sent goods to be sold, with the proceeds going towards the fund. Alfred Lewis Jones had arranged for these items to be brought from Africa to Liverpool free of charge on his ships.

Following the public and national donations towards the funds, there was more money collected than was necessary for the construction of the Victoria Memorial. Funds were therefore diverted towards the construction of Admiralty Arch at the other end of The Mall, and a redevelopment to clear a path directly from that road into Trafalgar Square. Sir Aston Webb was put in charge of this project; he built the Arch so economically that enough money was left over to re-front the entirety of Buckingham Palace, a job that was completed in 13 weeks due to the pre-fabrication of the new stonework.

The initial preparatory stage was to re-route the road and modify The Mall. Brock hoped that work on constructing the memorial itself could be started at some point in 1905. The lower half of the memorial was revealed to the public on 24 May 1909. Thousands of people visited it on the first day.

Dedication and inauguration
Following a practice ceremony on 11 March, in the presence of Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn, the dedication ceremony took place on 16 May 1911, presided over by King George V. His first cousin, Wilhelm II of Germany, was also present. These two were the senior grandsons of Victoria, and arrived, together with their families, in royal procession. Also in attendance were a large number of Members of Parliament, and representatives of various armed forces.

In his role as Home Secretary, Winston Churchill carried the text of the speeches. Lord Esher addressed the King and the gathered crowd, explaining the history of the memorial. The King replied to this, referring to his involvement in the development of the monument to his grandmother. He talked of the impact of Queen Victoria and of her popularity with the public. In total, the ceremony went on for thirty minutes. Following this, it was revealed to the press that the King had decided that the sculptor of the memorial, Thomas Brock, was to be knighted.

Later uses
As part of the celebrations of the Golden Jubilee of Elizabeth II, the Victoria Memorial (along with areas in Green Park and Buckingham Palace) was used as a platform for a fireworks display which lasted fourteen minutes with a total of two and three-quarter tonnes of fireworks used. In addition, water jets were added to the fountains in the Victoria Memorial, which fired water 40 ft up into the air. This display followed a concert held in the Palace forecourt.

It was announced in February 2012 that the Victoria Memorial would form the centrepiece of the stage for Queen Elizabeth II's Diamond Jubilee Concert on 4 June that year. Platforms designed by Mark Fisher were built around the memorial at a cost of £200,000, and were constructed in two weeks. A number of performers appeared from across the sixty years of Queen Elizabeth II's reign, including Gary Barlow, Tom Jones, Elton John, Jessie J, Madness, Dame Shirley Bassey and Paul McCartney. Tickets were free and allocated by public ballot; and in addition to being seen live by the 10,000 fans in attendance, the event was broadcast by the BBC and highlights were shown in the United States on ABC.

Later in 2012, the memorial marked the end of "Our Greatest Team Parade" on 10 September 2012. This parade celebrated the successes of the British teams at the 2012 Summer Olympics and Paralympics. There were 21 floats holding a total of around 800 athletes, and it was estimated that around a million members of the public cheered them on. The area from Admiralty Arch to the Victoria Memorial down the Mall was reserved for ticket holders. After the arrival at the Victoria Memorial, there was a flypast by helicopters of the Royal Air Force, as well as a British Airways jet and a flight of the Red Arrows. During the games, the Mall and the Victoria Memorial had been used as the finishing point for the Marathon, as well as being on the triathlon route.

The memorial was damaged by anti-austerity protesters during the "Million Mask March" on 5 November 2013, which took place in central London focused on Trafalgar Square and outside Buckingham Palace. During the following year's protests, the memorial was guarded by police officers.

Description
At the top of the central pylon stands a gilded bronze Winged Victory, standing on a globe and with a victor's palm in one hand. Beneath her are personifications of Constancy, holding a compass with its needle pointing true north, and Courage, holding a club. Beneath these, on the eastern and western sides, are two eagles with wings outspread, representing Empire. Below these, statues of an enthroned Queen Victoria (facing The Mall) and of Motherhood (facing Buckingham Palace), with Justice (facing north-west towards Green Park) and Truth (facing south-east). These were created from solid blocks of marble, with Truth being sculpted from a block weighing 40 tonnes.

Brock described the symbolism of the memorial, saying that it was devoted to the "qualities which made our Queen so great and so much beloved." He added that the statue of the Queen was placed to face towards the city, while flanked by Truth and Justice as he felt that "she was just and that she sought the truth always and in circumstances", while the Motherhood was to represent her "great love for her people".

At the four corners of the monument are massive bronze figures with lions, representing Peace (a female figure holding an olive branch), Progress (a nude youth holding a flaming torch), Agriculture (a woman in peasant dress with a sickle and a sheaf of corn) and Manufacture (a blacksmith in modern costume with a hammer and a scroll). The self-bases of the last two groups are inscribed THE GIFT OF NEW ZEALAND. At nearly 25 m tall, the Victoria Memorial remains the tallest monument to a King or Queen in England. The whole sculptural programme has a nautical theme, much like the rest of The Mall (Admiralty Arch, for example). This can be seen in the mermaids, mermen and the hippogriff, all of which are suggestive of the United Kingdom's naval power.

The memorial is a grade I listed structure. Its architectural setting of formal gardens and gates was designed by Sir Aston Webb and has a separate Grade I listing.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Airspeed Velocity of an Unladen Swallow

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep.

Having noted that the concensus is "keep", I note that there is far less concensus in what form to keep. Several voters recommended keeping this only as a redirect. Others as a merge and redirect. Several argued to keep it as an idependent article but did not address the original objections raised in the nomination - is this or is this not prohibited original research?

The copyright issues do seem to be adequately addressed. The source, however, is neither peer-reviewed nor independent. The assertions in the article are not easily verifiable and, based on the evidence presented below, may be fundamentally unanswerable. Similar analysis in, for example, Star Wars, would generally be categorized as non-canon or fan fiction. Because of those concerns, I am going to have to add my voice to those calling the content unsuitable for Wikipedia. Acting as an ordinary editor, I am going to be bold and turn this into a redirect. (I note that the source website for this content is already included as a link and can't think of anything more to merge.) Rossami (talk) 22:44, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Airspeed Velocity of an Unladen Swallow
Original research, reproduced from another source (although the page author claims to have permission from the original creator). Seems pretty pointless to me. ESkog 23:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Note: now someone else has put the Copyvio tag on the article as well. ESkog 23:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep unless it really is a copyright violation. This article is a set of technical annotations of an extremely well-known comedy skit. You can argue that the author needs to get a life, but not the material isn't of wide interest! I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK!
 * Note: I was the original author although at the time I didn't have an account. I did contact the author of the website that the information was found on and I received a fairly quick response. If you don't believe me, simply ask him yourself. The email address is listed at the page (info@13pt.com). The actual text of his response was:
 * >airspeed velocity of swallows onto Wikapedia.
 * Hi, yes, you're welcome to use some of my article for that. I think there may already be a link to the article under the Monty Python entry ... haven't checked in a while.
 * best,
 * j.
 * Aznph8playa 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a journal. Even if this weren't silly beyond words, it has no more place here than a technical paper on 'the breeding bahviour of Cave Swifts in secondary rainforest in 1985-1997' or sucjhlike. A single line, or even just the link to the page this came from, on the Hirundinidae article will suffice. Sabine's Sunbird 02:32, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Your cave swifts example isn't relevent. This isn't a random wildlife reference -- it's about a scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. A technical discussion of that scene might seem pointless to you, but not to any Monty Python fan. Isaac R 02:39, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Okay then, a study on 'agressive behaviour towards humans by Western Gulls', which would tie into Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds (they were one of the species in the film.). At the end of the day to make the old airspeed velocity etc etc article wikiworthy it could be pared down to maybe three lines, all of which would be better merged on the swallow page than needlessly split out into it's own page. Are we also going to have a page for the weight of a Mallard.(laden or unladen?)? Sabine's Sunbird 02:56, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Except that people don't stand around at parties quoting Alfred Hitchcock movies.Isaac R 03:08, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * A couple of Comments:
 * A scientific breakdown of a humorous sketch is simply not encyclopedic. This would be like taking the lines from the Philosophers' Soccer/Football Game, another Python sketch, and comparing them to the philosophers' own writings. Fun to put together? Sure. But it doesn't belong here, IMHO.
 * It may be a humorous anecdote that someone has actually done this work to calculate the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow (African or European), and this may warrant mention on the movie's main page as others have suggested. Stating the conclusion of this primary source may be worthwhile somewhere herein, but don't just text-dump someone's paper onto WP, with or without permission. ESkog 05:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Well the skit itself is already covered by the Monty Python and the Holy Grail page. I can't imagine this being a very weighty article, so I guess a footnote could be added to the MPatHG page. So merge non-copyright material, unless substantial content. — RJH 05:29, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge into hirundinidae. Information on the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow belongs somewhere on Wikipedia...  Almafeta 07:00, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Merging would probably be the best idea I suppose. And I can understand why one would say all of the technical information being redumped onto Wikipedia isn't a great idea but it should be somewhere. Regardless of the apparent ridiculousness of this information, a simple google check for the information would show the enormous amount of intrigued people. This being so, I believe it would be useful somewhere in Wikipedia... Aznph8playa 10:07, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Semi-notable meme, so redirect to Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Radiant_* 10:53, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Article is useful for its technical content, not it's meminess. Coconut transport issues are big enough to rate their own article. Isaac R 16:08, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, but for its technical content I'd like to see some verifiability first. A bird beating its wings twenty times per SECOND sounds rather unlikely unless it's a hummingbird. Radiant_* 11:37, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * If you're questioning the credibility of the information, take a look at the site's references http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/#1 Also you seem to think it unusual for a bird to beat its wings more than 20 beats per second and you mentioned the hummingbird but let me remind you that the smallest hummingbird beats its wings 80 times per second. Aznph8playa 19:12, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but a swallow ain't a hummingbird. Still, it doesn't matter. That just means the guys in the castle are right and King Arthur is wrong -- which is valuable information to any serious Pythonophile. Isaac R 15:34, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, important comedy skit that is referenced in popular culture, I can certainly imagine someone entering this query into wikipedia. -- taviso 13:11, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep -- strong concur with Taviso. --Simon Cursitor 07:20, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Analysis of a fairly famous aspect of a notable comedy movie. Sonic Mew 07:26, May 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep with a rewrite re: copyvio. Agree with Taviso. JamesBurns 06:38, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. James F. (talk) 09:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. As well as there being no such thing as an African Swallow (a problem dealt with in the article by assuming it's a South African Swallow) there is also no such thing as a European Swallow. None of the five species found in Europe are called that, none of them are endemic to Europe, and the one that is probably refered to is the Barn Swallow, which lives across Asia, North America and Europe and migrates to every other continent on earth (including as a vagrant to Antarctica). Incidentally, here is the Birds of America's (put out by Cornell University) statements on swallow wingspeed Flight speed is not much greater than that of other swallows, but with straighter flight this species covers ground more rapidly (see Blake 1948). Speed estimated at 8.0 m/s ± 2.0 SD (range 5–17), which matches the speed predicted if birds were flying to maximize rate of food delivery to nestlings - quite frankly a more reliable sourse. Why have a page devoted to someone's back of the envelope calculations when science already knows these speeds? (PS sorry if I'm being all bird geeky but I'm drowning in python geekyness at the moment.) Sabine's Sunbird 11:39, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Why are you apologizing? If we weren't all geeks, we wouldn't even be having this discussion!Isaac R 20:59, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * merge into Monty Python and the Holy Grail, but make a link from Hirundinidae. - UtherSRG 03:01, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Category:Wikipedian applied mathematicians

This is a list of people in wikipedia that have an interest in or hold a degree in Applied mathematics. Non-linear dynamics, Engineering, Fractals, Computing Science, and some elements of Musicology are included in this field.


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Talk:Code Lyoko

Joestor Who?
What is this entry? I'm searching everywhere for some indication of what that is and I'm finding nothing. Code Lyoko has nothing to do with the Fourteenth Doctor or any Doctor Who series. There's not even any references to look at for this. Can we remove all the references to whatever this is, or get references that explain it better? Ashbelero (talk) 22:06, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GrazingshipIV

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus to delete -- Francs2000 | Talk 02:22, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

User:grazingshipIV
''This was not put in the log by the original nominator. --Dmcdevit·t 21:00, July 20, 2005 (UTC)''
 * Normally I don't care about user pages but this appears to be a personal attack directed against another user as well as offensive - Damicatz 23:47, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Leave it alone, it's in user space and isn't directed at anyone in particular. WP:NOT censored for anyone, and though this would have to go if it were in article space, it's not. -Splash 22:31, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per Splash... sorta nonsense, but under 100 characters. Xoloz 04:01, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Can't we delete it on the grounds that all of the edits associated with the name are vandalism, and that no edits have been made from that editor since January? --Angr/undefined 05:37, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak delete per Angr. Radiant_ >|< 12:38, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Tri-state area

Tri-state area is an informal term in the United States which can refer to any of multiple areas that lie across three states. When referring to populated areas, the term implies a shared economy or culture among the area's residents, typically concentrated around a central metropolis.

Tri-state areas may or may not include a state boundary tripoint.

Tri-state areas by region
The following is not an exhaustive list. "Tri-state area" may refer to several additional places in locally understood contexts, such as a business name.

Northeast

 * The New York tri-state area, which includes parts of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut.     Pennsylvania is sometimes included in the meaning of this usage of the term, since the New York metropolitan statistical area, as defined by the U.S. Census Bureau, includes a small part of the state of PA.
 * The Philadelphia tri-state area, which includes parts of Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware. This use of "tri-state" excludes Maryland even though its northeast corner is closely tied to Philadelphia.
 * The Pittsburgh tri-state area, covering parts of Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia.
 * Maryland, Pennsylvania, West Virginia
 * The Erie tri-state area, which includes parts of northwest Pennsylvania, Ohio and New York.
 * The Minisink Valley tri-state area, which includes parts of New York, Pennsylvania and New Jersey.
 * New York, Vermont and Massachusetts
 * The Berkshires, a region usually considered to include only western Massachusetts and northwestern Connecticut; when the Taconic portion of New York is included, the area is sometimes described as the "tri-state" or "tri-corners" area.

Midwest

 * The Chicago tri-state area, or "Chicagoland," which includes northeast Illinois, Northwest Indiana and southeast Wisconsin. The Tri-State Tollway connects Wisconsin's portion with Indiana's. Parts of southwest Michigan in the Michiana region are also culturally tied to Chicago.
 * The Illinois–Indiana–Kentucky tri-state area, centered around the confluence of the Wabash and Ohio Rivers.
 * The Cincinnati tri-state area, which includes parts of Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana.
 * Kyova, a region named for Kentucky, Ohio and West Virginia and home to Tri-State Airport.
 * The Dubuque tri-state area, which includes parts of Iowa, Illinois and Wisconsin.
 * The Fort Madison-Keokuk tri-state area, also known as the Quincy tri-state area, which includes parts of Iowa, Illinois and Missouri.
 * The Sioux City metropolitan area region of Iowa, Nebraska, and South Dakota.
 * The La Crosse tri-state area, which includes parts of Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa.
 * The Tri-State district, a lead and zinc mining region of Oklahoma, Kansas and Missouri, known for producing "tri-state" minerals consisting mainly of sphalerite.

South

 * The DMV, which includes the city of Washington (coterminous with the District of Columbia) as well as surrounding portions of Maryland and Virginia. Although the District of Columbia is not a state, the region is sometimes referred to as a "tri-state area." Furthermore, the Washington–Arlington–Alexandria metropolitan statistical area, as defined by the U.S. Census Bureau, includes Jefferson County, West Virginia, making the region a true tri-state area.
 * The Delmarva area, which includes Delaware and the eastern shores of Maryland and Virginia.
 * Greater Memphis or the Mid-South, which includes west Tennessee, northwest Mississippi, and the Delta region of Arkansas.
 * The Wiregrass Region, which includes southeast Alabama, southern Georgia and the Florida Panhandle.
 * The Ark-La-Tex, a socioeconomic region that includes thirty-nine counties/parishes in Arkansas, Louisiana and Texas.

West

 * The Inland Northwest, historically and alternatively known as the Inland Empire, which includes Washington, Idaho, and Oregon.
 * The tri-state area of Bullhead City, Arizona, Needles, California, and Laughlin, Nevada.

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I'm continuing to expand this article. Anyone want to help out? --Tom Allen 23:46, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

 * I've added some material with citations, but don't know sources of most of the info under Civil War and Reconstruction. If someone does know, please add citations!
 * Also, I think the part on Shaker life needs to be incorporated in a section higher up, & made to sound more encyclopedia-ish. HollyJack (talk) 22:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Life

 * Celibate, egalitarian society; gender and race
 * Worship (meetings), music, dancing, elders, guests, etc.
 * Work
 * Acceptance of technology
 * Children
 * Relations with outsiders

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User talk:Chardok

Please don't change the meaning of text someone placed on their userpage. If you think it's inappropriate, please report it in an RFC or call it to the attention of administrators. Mgm|(talk) 23:47, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

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