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Talk:Berenstain Bears

Controversy & Criticism
What happened? Up to August 2006, there was a section called "Controversy and Criticism" to which I contributed solid references to articles critical of the Bears' stereotypical gender roles. This section has now been replaced by "Praise and Comment" which now has a smattering of "blog" entries among its sources.

I'm not 100% sure but it appears the deletions were by a user "BerenstainMike". I guess you must be a fan. I don't mind keeping the "Praise & Comment" section because there are one or two good references there. But I went ahead and re-instated the Controvery & Criticism section (which still needs some work formatting the references)

Tweesdad

Someone removed the substantive criticism again, but left the orphaned References section. I don't care much about the criticism, but I put it back. If whoever hates the criticism decides to remove it again, please also remove the appropriate reference entries, thanks. --VAcharon 01:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I was quite surprised to see that there isn't any mention at all of the Berenstain's aggressive feminist agenda in this article. Is that what's in the section that somebody keeps removing? I've read a bunch of these books with my kids, and it seemed that if there was ever an option for one of the children to be in a traditionally male role (a cop, a construction worker, a fireman), it would invariably be the sister bear, with the brother bear in the traditionally female roles. And Papa Bear is always tiresomely a bumbling idiot. Mama Bear is the only adult in the family. It's like one of those loathsome stupid man-clever woman ads. I finally put a moratorium on Berenstain books in my household for this reason. You might at least have a section describing that these highly-praised, wonderfully perfect and immaculate post feminist propaganda works for children are not 100% acceptable to everyone. - A Father who is not a bumbling idiot  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.255.96.101 (talk) 12:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

FYI Mike Berenstain is the son who is continuing to write the books...   if this is you Mike, and you are reverting text, please remember, this is a Wiki article, not your article. Billyshiverstick (talk) 01:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

 * BerenstainMike is the son of the authors... Mike Berenstain. 207.255.118.240 (talk) 20:03, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The account for was used on one day in 2006 and hasn't been heard from since. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 23:03, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

The article has not reported a variety of positive critiques of the Berenstain Bears books from various sources:

"The Berenstains have the extraordinary ability to communicate universal experiences and uplifting messages," -Laurie Norton Moffat, director of the Norman Rockwell Museum in Stockbridge, Mass.; NY Times, November 30, 2005

"They were able to take the real issues of children's lives and make them entertaining and not preachy," -Ilene Abramson, director of children's services at the Los Angeles Public Library; LA Times, November 30, 2005

"Among the generation of children growing up in the '70s and early '80s, The Berenstain Bears books are spoken of like zen koans, or like biblical allegories." -Aemillia Scott, Flak Magazine Online, November 30, 2005

Since great attention has been paid to negative critiques, it would seem appropriate to also include these positive comments as balance.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bookeditor9000 (talk • contribs) 05:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I definitely find the criticism/praise sections to be unbalanced, particularly for a Wiki. Frankly, you can find someone to complain about anything, but is that really the important thing about this book series? FusionDude (talk) 00:07, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

 * FusionDude if you find the criticism and praise to be unbalanced, then by all means please do go out and find additional reliably sourced praise for the series. I added what I was able to find back in 2014, perhaps you will be able to find more. As far as your comment about finding someone to complain about anything and whether that is important, Wikipedia articles routinely have sections that report critical and popular reaction to books, movies, TV shows. It's a practice that is accepted by consensus, and it is important to provide information on how well-received a series is, most readers find this information very useful. Mmyers1976 (talk) 15:40, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Mmyers1976 My point is that the first sentence of the "reception" section is more critical than positive. This is, I believe, due to cherry-picking. For example, the reference to the New York Times article has this paragraph:

Over the years, the Berenstains drew criticism for promoting long-outmoded gender roles and overly simple life lessons. But readers who love Bear Country consider it a place not unlike Mr. Rogers’s neighborhood, where a fixed storytelling routine and familiar characters bring comfort to children as they seek to navigate a world that becomes ever more complicated as they grow up.
 * I personally wouldn't consider that a reliably sourced criticism or praise; it's simply journalistic opinion. In fact, the actual citation is balanced to leaning positive.
 * Also, stylistically by leading with criticism and having a very sparse praise section (which may be due to the apathy of authors in digging up reliably sourced praise), the tone of the article is negative. My expectation would be that, barring the revisionism of political correctness, a children's series loved by millions would have an overall positive tone. FusionDude (talk) 18:18, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Papa Bear as the bumbling idiot makes him lovable while Mama is condescending hypocrite who is so perfect that it is downright insincere and tyrannical. Ninjaflight (talk) 03:51, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Spelling
I thought it was spelled "Bearenstain". john k 18:35, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * That would be kind of funny, wouldn't it, a pun with the "bear" inserted into the name? However, the official site, http://www.berenstainbears.com/, spells it "Berenstain". —Lowellian (talk) 06:33, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

 * Actually, throughout my childhood, it was always "Berenstein" Bears. At some point in the mid 90's, it looks like they changed it to "Berenstain" with an A. I found some old books with the original spelling, so I know I'm not crazy. Anyone know when/why it was changed? I'm just curious, since I noticed that Stan's recent obituary had the "Berenstain" spelling. Salena  22:27, January 1, 2006 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.122.40.96 (talk • contribs) 01:27, January 9, 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Salena, Can you please take pictures of some old books with the original spelling? Misty MH (talk) 10:07, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * "Salena" is not an editor trying to be helpful. They're pranking. First, notice their user name link above is a link to an unrelated article. They were editing through an AT&T connection 14 years ago in Kansas and then disappeared. Next, notice that the next edit, made shortly after this one, supposedly by an(other) anonymous user trying to help is also editing from an AT&T connection in neighboring Missouri a couple of weeks later and then disappeared. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 03:46, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I too, remembered it as Berenstein. Just an anonymous user verifying. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.126.197.36 (talk).

 * I was certain it was Berenstein, but I don't have any books to prove it. It looks to have been recorded in Amazon but this could have been data entry errors I guess. — Coelacan | talk 04:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

 * If this were really the case I'd find it odd that not a single original item with the alternate spelling is seen on the aftermarket or as collectable. In fact, ebay is awash in items purported in the item listing title to be the alternate spelling (stEin) with pictures clearly showing it to be the accepted spelling (stAin). It's a fantastic example of mistaken perception that suggests Salena needs to take another look at those books. ForestMars (talk) 05:35, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

 * i've looked into the "original" prints of the books from the 80s. and ALL of them say Berenstain. i KNOW it was Berenstein growing up. i know people who pulled out their original ones they grew with and they have no idea why it says Berenstain.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.45.76 (talk • contribs) 18:21, August 7, 2015
 * Let's try a thought experiment. I'm alone in my office. No one else has been here since I cam in this evening. I go to pick up my keys from on top of the filing cabinet and they aren't there. I know I put them there. I always put them there. Instead, they're in my pocket. Possible explanations:
 * 1) Aliens transported the keys from the filing cabinet to my pocket.
 * 2) This reality is one of countless parallel realities. In this one, my keys briefly came to life an snuck into my pocket.
 * 3) The universe was destroyed by a space god who later felt bad about it and reconstructed it to look exactly like it did before it was destroyed. Said god made one mistake: the location of my keys.
 *
 * 999) I was momentarily distracted by something in my mail (or whatever) while coming in the door and absent-mindedly put the keys in my pocket. Having put my keys on the filing cabinet so many times, my brain filled in the gaps and had me incorrectly remember putting the keys on the filing cabinet.
 * Which theory is most likely correct?
 * Back to our authors. Which is more likely correct:
 * 1) Blah, blah, blah aliens/multiverse/space god.
 * 99) Barely literate young kids misunderstand an uncommon name, don't see the name for a few decades, begin to assume the name fits the common ______stein pattern.
 * You are free to believe whatever you'd like. We report what reliable sources say. All reliable sources say the name is, was and always will be Berenstain. Yes, all of the sources were corrupted by the aliens/multiverse/spacegod. Too bad. Suck it up and move on. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 01:13, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Or those of us who remember them as the Berenstein Bears do so because we still have one or more copies with original spelling, and at some point for some reason someone changed the spelling of the name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.30.38.42 (talk • contribs) 12:42, September 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * They also changed every record of the name in U.S. trademark and court records, tax records and at the Library of Congress. You need more than "someone changed the spelling". You need an international conspiracy, spacegods, multiple universes or, gee, people with imperfect memories forgetting a minor detail from their childhoods.
 * We've had a few IP addresses claim various things. One took a photo from someone's blog and photoshopped it as "proof". No one else has shown anc alleged originals. Given the monumental claims bouncing around here, a book with an "original" spelling would certainly be worth some decent money and get a lot of attention. Take your "original" to a respected journalist and take your place in history...
 * The parsimonious answer here remains that people simply misremember a detail from their pre-literate childhood and a few will do whatever it takes to deny their mistake. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 13:47, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I thought it was Bearenstein so I guess I had a double Mandela effect 2600:8801:FB13:6B00:E9A2:AB76:BF8:BF16 (talk) 00:11, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

I'd like to propose that the article at least mention something along the lines of "the spelling is widely misremembered" and link that to another article which can discuss the psychological causes at play, the genuine distress people experience when they discover their memories aren't correct (or their tendency to believe rifts in spacetime theories instead!), the person who photoshopped the picture of the covers on the gray carpets in an attempt to point out what it's like to have Alzheimer's, etc. I don't think this should just be silenced, leaving people to wonder what's true. I only found out about this phenomenon a few weeks ago when I searched Google for "berenstein" idly to learn more about them, and was greeted with a page full of references to some conspiracy theory, which completely threw me for a loop. It took me a few days to really determine that Berenstain was the correct spelling and I myself had been misremembering! The sources I found from that Google search made me think initially that the name had been changed and wackos had decided aliens were involved, but for a couple of days I was telling my wife "apparently they changed their name and nut jobs think there's a conspiracy behind it." I'm an intelligent and generally well informed person--seems to me lots of others like me would benefit from a clear laying-out of the facts. Should I go ahead and create a new page on this topic, called e.g. "Berenstain Bears (conspiracy theory)" or something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.171.64.166 (talk) 19:12, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * What facts? It's called Berenstain Bears. Some people misremembered the name from their childhood. That's all the facts. --86.129.34.0 (talk) 21:02, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It used to be spelled with an E. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:56a:f02a:aa00:d589:a45a:29d2:d1be (talk • contribs) 23:08, September 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * Not big on reading, I guess. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 03:35, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

novel
They have novel formatting? I thought it was all picture book format. Scorpionman 22:00, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, they've written a couple of Berenstain Bears novels. I've read some of them myself, all of them from either 1995 or 1996. They still have pictures in them, though, but they usually come up every two page-spreads or so. I'm not sure if Jan & Stan are still writing them, though. - Nintendo Maximus

missing book
One of my favorite books when I was a kid was "The Berenstain Bears and the Spooky Old Tree." It does not appear to be listed here... I remember it featured only Brother and Sister Bear, and they were exploring the interior of a mammoth tree which combined equal parts cave (bats, dripping water, etc) and haunted house (there were staircases and evil-looking paintings in the interior) I remember the repeated tagline, "Do they dare (insert action here)?" and on the next page, "They dare!" Tmorrisey 21:53, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I added this one. Found it at Powell's. — Coelacan | talk 03:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Cedar Point
There is no longer a themed section of Berenstain Bears at Cedar Point, much to my dismay. They have converted it to a Peanuts cartoon theme, although one can still see remnants of the unique Berenstain Bears-style architecture. If your curious, there was an indoor and outdoor section. Inside, there was a whole library of all the Berenstain Bears books, some woods (denoted by plastic trees and colored carpeting), a lab and other things I don't quite remember. The lab had this really cool bicycle that would power a lightbulb, lightning globes/plasma spheres, etc. Outside they had a sandpit, a little train, and a replica of the Berenstain Bears's home! I'm not the only one bitter about it turning into a Peanuts gift shop... --Macrowiz 15:11, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

The same is true of Dorney Park in PA, although they're owned by the same company. --Joewithajay 19:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Amazon.com Reviews
I removed the Amazon.com reviews for several reasons:

 * 1) These reviews are informal rantings made by beings with names such as JamieX-Treme, and so that doesn't make a source of any consequence, nor could you base any facts on them since they are open to considerable dispute
 * 2) They unessesarily made the article %50 longer, and much harder to read

unfortunately that leaves the religion controversy unsourced. Bantosh 9:32, 19 June 2006

Examples of critical user reviews from Amazon.com:

 * "I was a fan of the Berenstain Bears as a kid and as I grew up I respected the way they could address difficult issues in an open minded, positive, and non-biased manner. Thus, I was surprised when I read this title. Expecting maybe a look at world religions or some such, I was disappointed to find it only looked at Christianity."- Zappaphile

 * "I love all of The Berenstein Bear books. I've been reading them since I've been a kid. I'm now 20 years old and I still read the books. But this one offends me. I love Jan & Stan Berenstain, but why did they have to bring 'God' into the series? I am an atheist, and hearing/reading the word 'God' makes me sick! I'm sick of people being obsessed with all these mythical gods and stuck up in religion! I crave the day that religion and the belief in gods is completely destroyed from people's minds. Bringing 'God' into my favorite children's book series is an absolute disgrace."-JamieX-Treme

 * "I'm 24 years old and have always liked the Berenstain Bears books because they are fun and tackle serious issues in a very human way. "The Big Question," however, left me wondering if this book was meant to urge kids to become Christian. While I'm not always so quick to jump onto the "conspiracy" bandwagon, it seems that this story could have been handled much differently. Unlike the other books, it appeals to only one audience-- Christian. I am Jewish and agnostic. I know some Jews, Christians, Muslims, Wiccans/Pagans, Buddists, atheists, and agnostics. What bothers me is that Mama answers Sister's question as if she KNOWS the answer. Why not tell sister that this is a tough question? There are many religions, many beliefs, and we have to respect all of these beliefs and that, ultimately, nobody really knows the answer? Why not tell her that many believe in one or many gods, and others don't believe in a god at all? Maybe then Mama could have said that she believes in God, and then taken the family to church (or wherever) to teach Sister about one of many ways of looking at the world, instead of insinuating that Christianity has all the answers?"-"Animation Junkie"

Examples of positive user reviews from Amazon.com:

 * "This Book is one of my favorites out of the Berestain Bear Collection. The book deals with the question how did we come to be, who created us ? The writers give their view by taking the family to church and show what they learn. This book is a rare collection and it gives me great pleasure to know that my kids can read a book like this. Coming from a strong Christain home I can say this book hits a spot on our family book case."-A Reader

 * "This book is another hit to add with the Berenstain Bear Collection. I thank God that there are still books out there that still teach kids a lesson and entertains them at the same time. These books are truley a good way to get your kids motivatived to read, instead of watching TV. So I give this book and all the other Berenstain Bear books 5 Stars."-A reader

Example of a Neutral Review from Amazon.com:

 * "I grew up with the Berenstain Bears, reading them and having them read to me both as a connection with the outside world and a symbol of morality. While I enjoyed their handling of bullying, Racism, and School Problems, I find myself not that satisfied with this interpretation of 'what is out there'.

I'm a Humanist. Unlike the Richard Dawkinses out there, I don't believe in the eradication of Religion entirely, but in tolerating it as an alternative and mostly good view. Like The Bears themselves and their Grandparents in this book, my less immediate Family were and still are deeply faithful Methodists, and like the bears they were more in favour of using Religion as a connection between different people rather than a seperation between different faiths.

Richard Dawkins and some similarly-minded reviewers on this very page fall into the trap of believing that Religion is only one thing, and in their idea it is a force that makes people kill other people for a holy wars. Yet look into the stories of Buddhism and the traditions of Judeaism, spend one morning in a methodist Church and an afternoon in a Mosque, and you can see that the Average true believer couldn't care less who doesn't worship the way they do - all that matters to them Religion-Wise is Pleasing God, and the biggest rule of all Religions is: 'Do Unto Others as youw ould have them Do Unto You'...

...All I'm saying is that though I deeply respect all of the Berenstain family, it might be wise to revise their introduction to Religion. Children, when books are read to them, are 'Clean Slates' - their ideas are new and only vaguely affected by outside influence. Unlike TV & Gaming machines, a Book can give them an informed opinion of a subject - so we have to be careful not to give them one view, but let them choose from several." - Alex 'Gecko' Nuan.

Happy Meal Books?
I own a book, "The Berenstein Bears and the Busy Beavers" or something like that. They were given away in a kid's meal or some promotion. It is not mentioned and I know that 3 other books are mentioned on the back cover of the book. Anyone know about these and why they aren't listed? 162.83.123.76 02:40, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Listcruft?
This page seems very listy... is this really necessary? Timbatron 20:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

someone recently put in that papa bear is "gay"...

this must be someone's malicious act12.36.123.2 20:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I want to find that post. It is no longer available. Ninjaflight (talk) 03:54, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Chronology of the Books?
I wish someone would please list the books in chronological order as they were published, or maybe put the year they were first published at the end of each title. Like they do for other authors. Whoever out there knows the dates, please try. I would like to know which were the books from the 70s and 80s, regardless of their format. The article only makes clear that The Big Honey Hunt was the first. I would find it very helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.47.31.5 (talk) 06:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

The Berenstain Bears and the Big Question
Has there ever any controversy over the fact that this book promotes religion to young children? 70.179.52.204 (talk) 03:36, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Over the past 5 years about seven of the Bears' books have been overtly Christian. Although there has been some discussion on the internet, I would not call it a "controversy."  Personally it has caused some annoyance; my child got hooked on the books and will grab anything with the Bears on the cover.  We are not a Christian family, and it's hard to explain why I won't read those but WILL read "The Messy Room."  There is one "The Berenstain Bears Do Their Best" which is a complete blindside.  --Bridgecross (talk) 17:16, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

GetReligion, the blog that reviews religious news stories has an entry for this controversy: http://www.getreligion.org/2010/10/new-yorker-fears-berenstain-bears/ in which they castigate the New Yorker's blog entry http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2010/10/the-berenstain-bears-get-an-app-and-find-god.html where the originator's son, Mike, explicitly says that he's moved the series in a Christian direction.
 * Over the years, my parents and I often heard from Christian families how much they appreciate the values-based themes of our books. By dealing with religion through the fun and laughter of the Berenstain Bears, we hope to nurture these families in their goal of raising children secure in their faith.

Jerryfern (talk) 17:08, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I was coming here to ask the same question, I was surprised by the latest Bears books my son brought home from the library, from the explicitly Christian "Living Lights" series. It was a real shock to me, and I'm surprised to see no mention of it here! Maybe I'll see if I can find an independent/neutral POV source and add to the "history" section? Mrs smartygirl (talk) 23:47, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

:Category:Fictional Jews
There isn't any mention in the article that the Berenstain Bears are meant to be Jewish, although they have been added to :Category:Fictional Jews. Even though Stan & Jan say the bears are modeled after themselves, no mention is made that the authors are Jewish, either. - Gilliam (talk) 03:48, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, unless someone points out otherwise, this category should be removed. Dustman15 (talk) 00:11, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Amen, I mean they celebrate Christmas for crying out loud! (see "meet santa bear") —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.127.41 (talk) 01:08, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If you accept the recently published titles specifically targeted at Christian audiences as canon, they are Christian, or perhaps more specifically Quaker from what I've read elsewhere. ProfessorTofty (talk) 05:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Agreed, though Stan Berenstain was Jewish, Jan Berenstain was Episcopalian, and apparently that is how they raised their son, who now writes the stories. And according to the Jewish Telegraph, they are not Jewish. Mmyers1976 (talk) 14:57, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

For the record...
...I'd like to state that I was a HUGE fan of the Berenstain Bears as a kid, I still like them, and if I had a kid, I'd be happy for them to read the books. My persistent defense of the parts of the article that discuss criticism of the series is not because I have any kind of vendetta against the franchise; it's because, as far as I can see, there's no argument that this isn't significant, notable content. The Krauthammer piece was widely quoted as part of Stan Berenstain's obituary, for heaven's sake. And, oh my GOD, is it more interesting than a "Praise" section consisting of a few random quotes about how flippin' awesome the Berenstain Bears are. At least, I think so.

I would actually like to include more content in praise of the Bears, but I've had difficulty finding adequate sources. As I see it, the sources for the negative criticism are significant pieces, by significant writers, in significant publications. I don't want to tack on to the end, "Oh, and here's a quote by some random person in some tiny newspaper who includes the Berenstain Bears on a list of books that will make your kid less nervous about his first day of school." I would like to find commentary or accolades about the books that approaches the same level of notability as the current sources, and that happens to be positive rather than negative, as opposed to putting something in just because it's positive.

I don't think it's casting the Berenstain Bears in an unduly negative light if, amidst all the talk here about how massively successful and beloved the franchise is, we recognize that some people don't like it. Theoldsparkle (talk) 16:10, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Positive articles in standard journals come up in searches, for instance, the Guardian and the Washington Post. See below:

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/feb/28/jan-berenstain

"The pair worked on more than 200 of the books about a family of pleasingly homely and disarmingly simple bears, which have been breakthrough titles for generations of emerging readers. The style was set in their first title, The Big Honey Hunt (1962): simple storytelling with a strong narrative core and a certain amount of familiarity and predictability, written in easy verse making good use of repetition, rhyme and rhythm. The stories were matched with vigorous cartoonish illustrations. With a nod of knowing sophistication between the storyteller and the reader, the books were witty and stylish rather than babyish."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/thank-you-jan-berenstain-for-the-bears/2012/02/27/gIQAsqnkeR_blog.html

Alison Petri

"They weren’t fashion-forward or avant-garde, but they scarcely needed to be. And there was a startling amount of warmth and life, in both the drawings and the descriptions. The honey looked delicious. The morals were simple to digest, with just enough sugar to help the medicine slide down. And they hold up well — never so in style that they went out of fashion. Timeless, timely, and kind-hearted, like all the best literature."

Bookeditor9000 (talk) 11:24, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

 * I've been on a wikibreak for the last few months and am just now seeing the above. The Petri piece from the Washington Post was already quoted in the article. The Guardian obituary was not; there's not much there, but if someone wanted to add a sentence from that obituary to the article, I'd probably be fine with that. Another editor has just revised the article to add mention of awards the books have won and make it a bit more balanced, so that may assuage some concerns. Theoldsparkle (talk) 15:49, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

The statement, "While enjoying decades of popularity, the series has been criticized for its perceived saccharine tone and formulaic storytelling." in the introductory section appears redundant since these criticisms are detailed in the Criticism section. For this reason, it also appears to be an editorial comment--espousing and supporting these critiques as the view of the Wikipedia authors rather than opinions from sources neutrally reported. This impression is heightened by the fact that the intro does not balance the reference to negative opinion with positive ones which are also detailed later in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bookeditor9000 (talk • contribs) 12:26, February 20, 2014

You said it Book editor. Ninjaflight (talk) 22:29, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Missing Wiki Ingredient
I feel this article has a huge hole in it. How did Stan and Jan divide their tasks, and collaborate? Was one the illustrator, one the writer? How did they develop storylines together? Perhaps Mike knows and can shed some light. I can't find the info in any of the related Wiki articles. Personally, I think a good Encyclopedia should dig into this. Let's not get too wrought up with the criticism, which most people don't care about. Let's tell the story here. Tx Billyshiverstick (talk) 01:07, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

The article says: "Over the next several decades, Stan and Jan collaborated on hundreds of books from their home studio outside Philadelphia.[1][5] After developing a storyline together, one of them (usually Stan) would develop a first draft, which the other would then refine into a 1100-word manuscript. They also worked together on the illustrations." If you find a reliable source with more detail, you're free to add that detail or post the source here. Theoldsparkle (talk) 22:14, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

The phrase "worked for the military as a medical illustrator" which appears early in the article to describe Stan Berenstain's activity during WWII would seem to imply that he was a civilian contractor working for the military. This is contradicted by obituaries stating that he was in the army during this period and worked as a medical illustrator while in the service: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/30/books/30berenstain.html 68.238.243.98 (talk) 20:56, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Continuation by Mike Berenstain
Mike Berenstain 1951– (at LCCatalog) and editors continue the series.

See Talk:List of Berenstain Bears books

--P64 (talk) 21:57, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

"Opinions" section
This section has an appearance of being biased against the series. It's possible this is unintentional, but the combination of the opening sentence of the section calling the books "syrupy", "unsatisfying", etc., the statement that "The Berenstain Bears series has been called" all these negative things, without balancing it with praise the series has garnered seems to lend undue weight to the negative criticism. I believe that this can easily be fixed by writing a new opening sentence acknowledging that the series has received both praise and criticism. A further refinement would be to separate the praise and criticism into subsections. Generally praise is presented first, and criticism next. Also, the section should be called "reception", not "opinions" in keeping with MOS. Mmyers1976 (talk) 19:51, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and made the changes I suggested above, with the exception of the order of Praise and Criticism. I kept criticism before praise for purposes of clarity. Placing the criticism section containing the Krauthammer condemnation first allows the reader of the article to understand what the Washington Post's Petri is talking about when she says Krauthammer "got it wrong." Mmyers1976 (talk) 20:29, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know if you read the section above titled "For the record..." (which I should have given a more descriptive title, but at the time I was just tired of feeling like a Berenstain-hating ogre every time someone deleted the criticisms and I put them back in). In a nutshell, when I wrote the criticism section, I tried to be as balanced as possible but I had a very hard time finding notable praise of the books in reliable sources. Your revised version doesn't really add any "notable praise of the books in reliable sources"; it adds a promotional page from the books' publisher. That being said, I'm willing to take Scholastic's word for it that the books really have won those awards, and I agree with mentioning those awards in the article. So I'm fine with accepting your edits. Theoldsparkle (talk) 15:44, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * No, sorry, I didn't see that section of the Talk page. I did see the "Controversy and Criticism" section at the top, and it seemed a bit outdated so I just started my own section, probably should have scanned further. I totally understand, don't think you were hating on the Berenstain Bears, the criticisms are out there, they should be included, and like you I haven't found a tremendous amount of praising sources that are at the same level as the critical ones. Hopefully this little bit of restructuring and a balanced introductory sentence will soften the blow for the Bear lovers and they won't feel the need to be defensive and delete the criticism. I also added some more citations on the awards the Berenstains have recieved so no one has to take Scholastic's word for anything. Happy Friday! Mmyers1976 (talk) 16:10, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

People have criticized the Bible and Shakespeare, too. Ninjaflight (talk) 22:25, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Name Change from Berenstein Bears to Berenstain Bears
The original name of the book series was "Berenstein Bears" not "Berenstain Bears" but it appears that the name was changed at a certain point in time and really no announcement of this change. I know for a fact it was originally the "Berenstein Bears" (you can find books with the original spelling) and other editors and people apparently notice this too, see: "Spelling" at the #2 talk section on this page. It appears they changed the name for some unbeknownst reason and never really mentioned why they changed it too -- does anyone know why and when this name change occurred? Also, why no mention of a name change in the article? A popular book series changing their name should definitely be included in the article. ShawntheGod (talk) 09:33, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

 * woodbetweenworlds.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-berenstein-bears-we-are-living-in.html

It makes no sense, -stein is a Jewish name suffix while -stain has no history of usage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.13.173.112 (talk) 12:28, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It might not "make sense" and various people may "know for a fact" otherwise, but the repeated claims the name was originally "Berenstein" is lacking a key ingredient: evidence.
 * Every book cover I see online and my niece's hand-me-down copies from the 1970s spells it with the "a". Also on board for the spelling with "no history of usage" (other, apparently, than the current case) are Jan Berenstain's obituaries, Syracuse University's collected papers, WorldCat for Jan, WorldCat for Stan, WoldCat for Mike, Library of Congress for Jan[lccn.loc.gov/n79131972] and Library of Congress for Stan[lccn.loc.gov/n79131972]. There are various name changes mentioned "Stanley and Janice" to "Stan and Jan" (suggested by Geisel/Seuss), middle names added and dropped, Jan from here maiden "Grant" to "Berenstain", "Michael" to "Mike" and such. None of the sources document "Berenstein".
 * Yes, Stan was Jewish. Jan was Episcopalian. There is nothing here to suggest the name was ever spelled with the "e". There is no evidence the Bears were ever supposed to be Jewish. If anyone is positive their childhood copies had the "e" spelling, dig them out, take a photo, upload the photo and change the discussion. Otherwise, all available evidence suggests you've simply misremembered. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 13:30, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

 * I can remember noticing that everyone was pronouncing the title as if it were spelled "Berenstein," but that the cover of the books actually read "Berenstain," some time in the late 1970s, or very early 1980s. The confusion in more recent times is exacerbated, because when people refer to it today, they invariably refer to it the way they pronounced it at the time ie., "Berenstein." But it was always officially spelled as "Berenstain." I remember having this discussion approximately 35 years ago, and people who suppose they remember it having been spelled "Berenstein," are simply mistaken. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 22:13, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

On the subject of the changing of the spelling of the name/books, the pronounciation makes it seem like some sort of weird unexplainable change that has no physical evidence of what exactly happened took place. Let me also mention that there is no recording of the so-called change anywhere in our records or in any information about books and their titles. Why didn't anyone associate the word "stain" out of Berenstain? Key question: Why did so many of us wonder if we should pronounce the end of Berenstain steen or stine? Also, why did this happen to people with good memory/spelling/pronounciation skills?

The author (or publisher not sure how that works) printed at least 300 copies of the Berenstain Bears books in 23 other languages. It makes me wonder if these other people have had the same problem. I really think we should have some brilliant minds discuss this and come up with a way to test all of this data. There is also more data unaccounted for (like the people who never read the books or have never seen the name)

Also note that Stan Berenstain's father had the same spelling in his last name, his name is Harry Berenstain. I plan on trying to review his family tree when I get the time. I also seen that someone mentioned that Stan is Jewish. If this is in fact true, Stein is very common in Jewish names.

There is also the possibility of unrecorded misprints. There haven't been any turned in yet, and no photographs of them have been found either (other than photoshopped ones)

My personal opinion: To me, it is more unlikely that so many people (especially the ones who are good at memory/spelling/pronounciation) are making a mistake of this magnitude, especially in all three fields at once, but that is just an opinion. I find it highly unlikely, but I never threw it out as a possibility. Perhaps we did make a mistake. I understand that the human memory is anything but perfect, but is it really possible for so many of us to have the exact same "false" memory? Also, did we simply remember it that way just because somebody else suggested it? I do realize that maybe most of the people who made this so called "mistake" may also not have good memory/spelling/pronounciation skills. Thank you for reading through this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymoususer620 (talk • contribs) 18:47, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * {This response was to an earlier version of the above comment, prior to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Berenstain_Bears&curid=2052193&diff=632090631&oldid=631964581 this revision.)
 * At the moment, ebay has a listing for a 1962 first edition of their first book: "The Big Honey Hunt" by Stanley and Janice Berenstain. The last name is Berenstain. All available evidence -- other than vague memories from childhood -- says it always has been. "Play it again, Sam." is not in Casablanca. Darth Vader never said, "Luke, I am your father." Kirk never said, "Beam me up, Scotty". Carl Sagan never said "billions and billions", except to say that he never said it. Human memory is not perfect. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 02:09, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Please do not edit your comments once someone has responded to them. Doing so can change the meaning of the response in ways the editor did not intend. Thanks. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 04:27, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Edited-The statement about Berenstain Bears name being changed simply is not true. You will not find a single book called "The Berenstein Bears". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.160.46.244 (talk) 01:14, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed, seems to be a nonissue to me, all evidence points to "Berenstain" always being the spelling of the books because it was the spelling of the family name from before the first book. Most likely just a misunderstanding caused by the popularity of Leonard Bernstein at the same time the Berenstain books were gaining popularity. Mmyers1976 (talk) 20:32, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

I have photographic evidence of the Berenstein Bears books having existed. I found these in my attic. Here is the picture. http://imgur.com/dmAGrmL Can we please get a section about the name change? I don't know why people are so resistant to talking about the mysterious name change.104.200.154.3 (talk) 17:17, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I have reverted yet another anonymous SPA IP's change to my comment. They argued that I can't spell "came", based on my typo, that it was audacious to say that young children are "barely literate" and that, much to my surprise, I am a guy. Therefore, my argument that EVERY reliable source says it's "Berenstain" is wrong. Their counter argument is "It's Berenstein." Compelling evidence there.
 * Now we have "photographic evidence". It's a photo of books they "found in (their) attic". Here is the photo they found on the Internet and edited, as it appeared in April 2012, reading "Berenstain". Until you provide independent reliable sources for your theory, this is resolved. Sum mer PhD v2.0 02:08, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The link SummerPhD provided is broken; [I found dsrandois.tumblr.com/berenstein this page] instead, although I don't have any evidence it is authentic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.171.64.166 (talk) 19:18, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Here is the specific page they meant after a little digging. Berenstain, clear as day. Finbob83 (talk) 19:56, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Hello,

I only became aware today that 'Berenstein' had been changed to 'Berenstain' Bears.

I worked on the TV cartoons at Hanna Barbera in 1985 and it was 'Berenstein Bears' then.

J — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.31.172 (talk) 05:55, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Nano - I actually like the fact that people are a crediting this to the Mandela effect. This could also mean that the 12 deciples of Jesus were under the same influence therefore discrediting the new testament or any religious book for that fact. Don't subject things biasly - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.74.69.192 (talk • contribs) 10:01, August 14, 2015
 * Anonymous SPA IP editor: This article talk page is for discussing improvements to the article, not for general discussion of the article topic. Improvements to the article require reliable sources. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 03:56, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

(SOMETHING CHANGED THEY WERE BERENSTEIN BUT NOW THEY NEVER WERE) many other things have also changed from the past and were not recorded in the original way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.192.110.210 (talk) 09:31, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * While this is no doubt true, we all signed a blood oath swearing we would not discuss this, right after we disembarked from the space ark that saved us from the collapse of the original Earth. PLEASE stick with the oath and drop it. Thanks. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 16:09, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Names in LC Catalog
FYI LCCN gives year of record creation as first two digits until 99=1999, first four digits thereafter. Evidently the authority records for Stan and Jan were created only in 1979, Mike in 1980. The earliest LCCat record for work as by "Stan" or "Jan" is 1964 for The Bike Lesson (1964) --the second B Bears book, i think. The only later records for work as by "Stanley" or "Janice" are from 1967 and 1978--for 1971 publication, their names given in square brackets. --P64 (talk) 18:15, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * : 1951 LCCatalog record for Berenstains' Baby Book (1951) by Stanley and Janice --earliest in catalog for either author
 * 62015115: 1962 LCCat record for The Big Honey Hunt (1962) by Stanley and Janice
 * See also and, above.
 * The Library of Congress authority record for son Michael/Mike Berenstain --which now makes "Mike" primary and "Michael" variant-- was created in 1980 (first two numerical digits of ). There are five earlier LCCat records for his works, all as by "Michael", including earliest 1975 for 1976 publication and earliest as writer 1977 . The earliest with "Berenstain bear" titles are bear scouts books published 1995, eg  --96pp. and presumably the "novels" discussed above. Catalog records for his works show "Michael" exclusively through 1999 (picture books, and aparently the last Bear Scouts); exclusively "Mike" thereafter, earliest 2003 . --P64 (talk) 18:34, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Berenstain is not German Jews, they are Ukrainian Jews. Ninjaflight (talk) 22:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Suggesting protection
I'm not going to pick a side on the Berenstain or Berenstein fiasco, but regardless, I think this article should be somewhat protected. Just looking through the edit history in the past month shows multiple cases of individuals changing every instance of the word Berenstain to Berenstein. Unless people want the vandalism to continue, I would suggest some sort of protection. Snax28 (talk) 05:55, 24 May 2016 (UTC)Snax28
 * I couldn't find mention of this weird little controversy in the article. Perhaps a mention of it would help resolve the confusion? Everyking (talk) 02:58, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It's mentioned a few times in this Talk, but not in the article. Even if it was included, I still think people would go changing it. Snax28 (talk) 03:14, 25 May 2016 (UTC)Snax28
 * I found an article I remembered reading about this some time back. It could be useful if someone wants to add a few lines about the whole thing. Everyking (talk) 05:31, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes, there is occasional editing of the article based on (A) people misremembering a proper noun's spelling from childhood or (B) the existence of an entirely separate universe which is identical in every way to this one except that the people who can't clearly remember details from childhood aren't yapping about it.* That said, the edits aren't frequent enough to merit page protection. As to adding content to ward off the edits, we would need discussion of this in a reliable source that is discussing the Berenstain Bears not the supposed effect. Otherwise, the supposed effect is simply not significant to the Berenstain Bears, the subject of this article. As an example: A source discussing Futurama will likely mention Richard Nixon's head. Richard Nixon's head, therefore, is mentioned in Futurama. A source on Richard Nixon is unlikely to mention Futurama. Richard Nixon does not mention Futurama. (Similarly, Gerald Ford does discuss SNL because the New York Times quotes Ford discussing SNL.) *In a cooler version of this universe someone noticed the spelling as an adult, mentioned it to a friend at lunch, applied Occam's razor, shrugged their shoulders and went back to discussing Game of Thrones. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 14:16, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It does happen quite a lot though that someone changes it to "-stein". I'd rather not add text about the Mandela effect, I think it would detract from the article, which is supposed to be about the franchise, not people's delusions about the spellin. If protection is not appropriate, what about creating a template that would go on the top of the page advising would-be editors that "Berenstain" has in fact been verified as the correct spelling and they should not change it, any changes to the spelling of the surname will be immediately reverted? Mmyers1976 (talk) 20:06, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Here is a suggested template:

Mmyers1976 (talk) 20:21, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Two problems: 1) I highly doubt the parade of drive-by IPs are going to care much what we say. (Clearly, this is not about the fail ability of human memory, this is obvious confirmation of a wildly-misinterpreted bleeding-edge speculation on the implications of quantum uncertainty, after all.) 2) I know of no precedence for such templating and strongly suspect drawing attention to one of Wikipedia's structural issues as part of the encyclopedia would be unlikely to garner much support.
 * IMO, the occasional reverts are a fairly minor issue. If you disagree, feel free to request protection or bring up your template idea at the Village Pump (or any other venue you feel is appropriate). - Sum mer PhD v2.0 02:26, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by "drawing attention to one of Wikipedia's structural issues as part of the encyclopedia", articles have cleanup templates, templates when a merger has been suggested, etc., these would all seem to be just as much drawing attention to Wikipedia's structural issues inside articlespace as my suggestion, perhaps even moreso. I don't see a whole lot of difference. Just because something hasn't been done before is not necessarily a reason not to do it now; most if not all of Wikipedia's standard practices were at one point innovations. Mmyers1976 (talk) 13:41, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Articles have templates that say (in various more specific ways): "This article is not perfect. Here's something you can do to make it better." Your suggestion says: "Don't make this article worse by doing this one thing we are specifying because we have decided it is wrong." Why would we decide an issue is poorly documented enough to not discuss it, but enough of a pain to discuss it?

- Sum mer PhD v2.0 21:06, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think your mock template is quite apropos to the situation, it's apples and oranges, there is a difference between people trying to put poorly sourced/unsourced fringe/conspiracy theories into an article which is covered by WP:V, and this situation where I'd venture to say that probably 75% of the people who come here honestly think they are fixing a spelling error, and it's a persistent problem. I also don't think the spelling on the Berenstains' name is simply confirmed by "some random editor", it's a matter of fact and public record, as well as consensus here on the project. Finally, your objection to my proposal still seems to be based only on it not having been done before, and for that I would cite WP:BOLD and WP:IGNORE. I just learned about editnotices, which seem a much better solution than my proposal. Mmyers1976 (talk) 15:29, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Pending changes had been applied, but still meant the changes needed to be reviewed. The page has been semi-protected several times since 2012 and this editing to -stein without sourcing seems never-ending and appears to be trolling. I have applied indef semi-protect. Sourcing about the name confusion would probably be useful. Fences  &  Windows  14:58, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * This interview with Mike Berenstain may be useful: http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/arts/its-berenstain-like-coffee-stain-or-jello-stain-one-berenstain-bears-author-rejects-parallel-universe-theory. Fences  &  Windows  15:29, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * That's the first meaningfully reliable source I've yet seen on this. IMO, it might merit a brief mention here and/or at Stan and Jan Berenstain. This still leaves an odd dozen or so Berenstain articles exposed. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 21:11, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Speaking of which: - Sum mer PhD v2.0 01:43, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

I don’t know why haters hate. Ninjaflight (talk) 22:31, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Editnotice request created
I put in a request for an editnotice for this article. For those unfamiliar with editnotices (as I was until today), an editnotice is only displayed when someone clicks on the "edit" tab, and informs them of a common incorrect edit before they make it. This will of course not deter the determined vandals and conspiracy theorists, but should reduce the number of good-faith editors who think they are correcting a misspelling. If you are interested in giving input on the exact wording of the editnotice, you may do so here: Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Berenstain Bears Mmyers1976 (talk) 16:47, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Update: Editnotice request has been approved and editnotice is now activated to be seen by anyone attempting to edit the article. Mmyers1976 (talk) 18:47, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Off topic chat
Spelling

It "was" Berenstein Bears. I took survey of it. I used to own the whole child's hard-back collection of the Berenstein Bears and it was one of my favorites growing up. My parents know they didn't misinterpret the title and all of my neighbors know as well. Even the young mother I gave the series to, knows it wasn't Berenstain....how do you get "stein" from "STAIN" ???? You guys might not want to admit it, however, I also remember vividly, "mirror mirror on the wall, who's the farest of them all." I used to quote Disney movies as a child..it was my thing. Now it's "Magic mirror on the wall..." also Forrest Gump! "mamma always told me life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what youre gonna get."...now it's "Life WAS like a box of chocolates"...that doesn't even make sense!!!!!???????? It could just be a huge hoax on America, a screwy joke by FOX or MGM or Disney... but you gotta admit it's different. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.96.138.169 (talk • contribs) 11:23, June 12, 2016
 * This talk page is for discussing improvements to the associated article, not for discussion about some global conspiracy between three large corporations using um, I guess it's MAGIC to make subtle changes to the history of the world as the world's most expensive, extensive and pointless practical joke. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 18:00, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Categories
I see that this page has been placed in categories like "novels adapted into plays" and "novels adapted into video games". This article is about the Berenstain Bears franchise, which includes all the iterations. These categories are misleading, they should be appended to the individual works within the franchise, not to the franchise itself. Mmyers1976 (talk) 15:39, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

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Possibility question: Will Berenstain Bears comes to Universal theme parks?
Hello,

Here's my possibility question: What would you think Universal Parks & Resorts would license Berenstain Bears and use it to appear at their parks, as Universal's own attractions based on the series, in the future?

commented by Wiki-Ikiw (talk), February 21, 2017, 8:49 pm —Preceding undated comment added 01:49, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

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Hyperlink correction
I'd make the change myself if the article weren't semi-protected, but could we correct the Mandela effect link to False_memory#Commonly_held_false_memories? I'm sure the link worked in the past, but it doesn't now.2A02:C7D:8A3D:DF00:B86A:4D6A:A9D6:8661 (talk) 07:47, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅-- Auric   talk  15:54, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Antismoking
"Antismoking" is spelled exactly like this, without any hyphens or spaces. This is just like antibacterial, antibiotic, anticommunist, anticrime, antidote, antifascist, antigovernment, antimatter, antimonarchy, antimissile, antiparticle, antiradar, antiradiation, antiscientific, antisocial, antistatic, antisubmarine, antitank, antitax, antiviolence, antiviral, and antiwar. These words do not have or need any hyphens. To include them is simply antiscientific. This is in contrast with anti-American, anti-British, anti-Catholic, anti-Japanese, anti-Nazi, anti-Soviet, and anti-State, where proper nouns and adjectives are involved.24.121.195.165 (talk) 20:29, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Stan Berenstain Army Service
There is a possibly misleading statement in this article--that during World War II Stan Berenstain "worked for the Army as a medical illustrator". This is ambiguous and could be taken to mean he was not actually in the Army but was a civilian contractor. Many sources make it clear that Stan Berenstain was drafted and actually served in the US Army for three years during the war. He was assigned to a medical unit at Camp Atterbury, Indiana where, because of his art training, he worked as a medical illustrator. Source: http://www.indianamilitary.org/Camp%20Atterbury/SpecialPeople/Berenstain/Berenstain.htm This may seem like a fine distinction. But out of respect for all military veterans, especially those who served during wartime, this is something that deserves to be clarified.

BerenstaincommentatorBerenstaincommentator (talk) 15:43, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Critics who complain about the series
A critic complain that these stories have no sentiments. They wonder where the warmth and the spirit of discovery and imagination in Bear Country is or the subtlety and plain old joy in them? How can the Bears? No offense but I always over analyzed things. I believe Bear Country is not a free country. It is like asking dictatorship to have imagination or plain old joy? Any bear that does that will be put in prison or be like what happened to Dumbo's mother for protecting her calf from human bullies. Take Papa. He does make fine furniture that people like such as chairs. He is limited to capitialism and to the cancel culture. He cannot make Chinese wedding ward robes for the pandas because it is racist, insensitive, and unheard of. Something even less more creative or wonder ness might get Papa in a strait jacket.

Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2023
Description: Link 91 is broken or outdated. There is also a typo from the quote inside link 91, as well as a misattribution that should be removed.

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Change link 91 from:

http://news.nationalpost.com/arts/its-berenstain-like-coffee-stain-or-jello-stain-one-berenstain-bears-author-rejects-parallel-universe-theory

To:

https://nationalpost.com/entertainment/its-berenstain-like-coffee-stain-or-jello-stain-one-berenstain-bears-author-rejects-parallel-universe-theory

Change dependant text in 'Name Confusion' from:

'According to Mike Berenstain, confusion over the name has existed since his father's childhood, when a teacher told him there was no such name as "Berenstain" and the correct spelling was "Bernstein," adding that she didn't approve of people who "changed their names."'

To:

'According to Mike Berenstain, confusion over the name has existed since his father's childhood, when a teacher told him there was no such name as "Berenstain" and the correct spelling was "Berenstein."' Volume-county (talk) 16:16, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

 * ✅ GiovanniSidwell (talk) 06:05, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

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Professorial vanity. Kelly Martin 18:35, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and move to correctly capitalized page. Dr. Snowdon is a leading scholar on aging.  He is the founder of the Nun Study, a seminal long term study on the effects of aging.  He is the keynote speaker at the upcoming "Issues in Aging Medical Congress" . DS1953 19:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per DS1953. leading scholars are notable. Maybe do a rewrite? - Mgm|(talk) 19:54, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Move to David Snowdon, keep and expand. Notable authority on aging. JamesBurns 23:34, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Job's tears (Coix lacryma-jobi), also known as adlay or adlay millet, is a tall grain-bearing perennial tropical plant of the family Poaceae (grass family). It is native to Southeast Asia and introduced to Northern China and India in remote antiquity, and elsewhere cultivated in gardens as an annual. It has been naturalized in the southern United States and the New World tropics. In its native environment it is grown at higher elevation areas where rice and corn do not grow well. Job's tears are also commonly sold as Chinese pearl barley, though true barley belongs to a completely different genus.

There are two main varieties of the species, one wild and one cultivated. The wild variety, Coix lacryma-jobi var. lacryma-jobi, has hard-shelled pseudocarps—very hard, pearly white, oval structures used as beads for making prayer beads or rosaries, necklaces, and other objects. The cultivated variety Coix lacryma-jobi var. ma-yuen is harvested as a cereal crop, has a soft shell, and is used medicinally in parts of Asia.

Nomenclature
Job's tears may also be referred to under different spellings (Job's-tears, Jobs-tears ). The crop is also known by other common names in English, such as adlay or adlay millet. Other common names in English include coix seed, gromwell grass, and tear grass.

The seeds are known in Chinese as yìyǐ rén (薏苡仁), where rén means "kernel", and also described in Latin as semen coicis or semen coicis lachryma-jobi in pharmacopoeic literature.

Taxonomy
The species, native to Southeast Asia, was named by Carl Linnaeus in 1753 with the epithet as a Latin translation of the metaphorical tear of Job. , four varieties are accepted by the World Checklist of Selected Plant Families:

 * Coix lacryma-jobi var. lacryma-jobi
 * Widely distributed throughout the Indian subcontinent to peninsular Malaysia and Taiwan; naturalized elsewhere. The involucres are ovoid, bony and glossy. It has hard shells and is used as beads in crafts.

 * Coix lacryma-jobi var. ma-yuen
 * South China to peninsular Malaysia and the Philippines.
 * The varietal name is eponymous after General Ma Yuen or Ma Yuan (馬援) who according to legend learned of the plant's use when he was posted in Cochin China (or Tonkin, in what is now Vietnam), and brought the seeds back to China to be cultivated. The involucres are elliptical, striate and soft.

 * Coix lacryma-jobi var. puellarum
 * Assam to Yunnan (China) and Indochina. It is the smallest among the Indian species, with only 4mm in diameter of the seeds. It is used for ornament as well.

 * Coix lacryma-jobi var. stenocarpa
 * Eastern Himalayas to Indochina.

Job's tearsalong with Coix in was formerly placed in the Maydeae, now known to be polyphyletic. It has cylindrical, longer than broad involucres. It is widely used as beads for ornaments.

Morphology
Job's tear is a monoecious grass which is broad-leaved, loose-growing, branched and robust. It can reach a height between 1.20 m to 1.80 m. Like all members of the genus, their inflorescences develop from a leaf sheath at the end of the stem and consist partly of hard, globular or oval, hollow, bead-like structures. Job's tear seeds differ in color, with the more soft-shelled seeds being light brown and the hard-shelled forms having a dark red pericarp.

The hardened "shells" covering the seeds are technically the fruit-case or involucre (hardened bract), with the bract also referred to as "capsule-spathe" or "sheathing bract" by some past botanical works.

These shells cover the bases of the flowers (inflorescences) which are male and female racemes/panicles; the male racemes project upright and consist of overlapping scale-like spikelets, with yellow stamens that pop out in-between, and there are one or two yarn-like female racemes drooping from the base.

Proteins
Job's tears - as with Coix in general - produces its own variety of α-zein prolamins. These prolamins have undergone unusually rapid evolutionary divergence from closely related grasses, by way of copy-number changes.

History
Job's tears is native to Southeast Asian countries, namely India, Myanmar, China, and Malaysia. Residue on pottery from a Neolithic (late Yangshao Culture) site in north-central China shows that Job's tears, together with non-native barley and other plants were used to brew beer as early as ca. 3000 BC.

Job's tears were already introduced to Japan (and probably cultivated alongside rice) in the Early Jōmon Period, corroborated by finds in Western Japan (Chūgoku region), e.g., from studies of phytoliths in the Asanebana Shell Midden (朝寝鼻貝塚) (ca. 4000 BC) in Okayama Prefecture. And further east in Japan, the plant has been found at the Toro site, Shizuoka Prefecture dating to the Yayoi Period.

Remains of Job's tears have been found in archaeological sites in northeastern India, dating to around 1000 BC. It was introduced to the subtropical area in India from the east Himalayan belt. A number of scholars support the view it has been in cultivation in India in the 2000–1000 BC period. The wild varieties have hard-coated seeds. Job's tear was one of the earliest domesticated crops. Domestication makes the seed coat become softer and easier to cook.

In China, the current cultivation of Job's tears mainly occurs in Fujian, Jiangsu, Hebei, and Liaoning provinces. The cultivation of Job's tears spreads out to temperate areas in North and Northeast China. The shelled grains exported from China were erroneously declared through customs as "pearl barley", and "Chinese pearl barley" remains an alternate common name so that the grains are sold under such label in Asian supermarkets, even though C. lacryma-jobi is not closely related to barley (Hordeum vulgare).

Crafts
The hard, white grains of Job's tears have historically been used as beads to make necklaces and other objects. The seeds are naturally bored with holes without the need to artificially puncture them.

Strands of Job's tears are used as Buddhist prayer beads in parts of India, Myanmar, Laos, Taiwan, and Korea according to Japanese researcher Yukino Ochiai who has specialized on the ethnobotanic usage of the plant. They are also made into rosaries in countries such as the Philippines and Bolivia.

Japan
In Japan, the grains growing wild are called juzudama (数珠玉)), and children have made playthings out of them by stringing them into necklaces. However, juzu-dama was a corruption of zuzu-dama according to folklorist Kunio Yanagita. A type of Buddhist rosary called irataka no juzu, which were hand-made by the yamabushi ascetics practicing shugendō training, purportedly used a large-grain type known as oni-juzudama (鬼数珠玉). Although this was published as a separate variety, C. lacryma jobi var. maxima, it is now regarded as synonymous to C. lacryma jobi var. lacryma-jobi according to taxonomical databases (World Checklist of Selected Plant Families).

It was contended by Edo Period scholar Ono Ranzan that the soft-shelled edible type called shikoku-mugi was not introduced into Japan until the Kyōho era (1716–1736), as opposed to a hard-shelled edible type called chōsen-mugi (lit. ‘Korean wheat’) which needed to be beaten in order to crack and thresh them. This type has been published as a separate species, C. agrestis in the past, but this is now recognized also as a synonym of C. lacryma jobi var. lacryma-jobi. Thus Japanese consumption of the crop attested in pre-Kyōho literature presumably used this hard-shelled type in the recipe.

Yanagita contended that the use of the beads predated the introduction of Buddhism into Japan (552/538 CE). And the plant has not only been found at sites dating to approximately this period at the Kuroimine Site, but in Jomon period sites dating to several millennia BC.

Ocean Road hypothesis
Yanagita in his Ocean Road hypothesis argues that the pearly glistening seeds were regarded as simulating or substituting for cowrie shells, which were used as ornaments and currency throughout Southern China and Southeast Asia in antiquity, and he argued both items to be part of cultural transmission into Japan from these areas.

Later scholars have pursued the validity of the thesis. Yanagita had reproduced a distribution map of the usage of ornamental cowries throughout Asia (compiled by J. Wilfrid Jackson), and Japanese ethnologist alluded to a need for a distribution map of ornamental Job's tears, for making comparison therewith.

Thailand and Myanmar
The Akha people and the Karen people who live in the mountainous regions around the Thai-Myanmar border grow several varieties of the plant and use the beads to ornament various handicraft. The beads are used strictly only on women's apparel among the Akha, sewn onto headwear, jackets, handbags, etc.; also, a variety of shapes of beads are used. The beads are used only on the jackets of married women among the Karen, and the oblong seeds are exclusively selected, some example has been shown from the Karen in Chiang Rai Province of Thailand.

Strands of job's tears necklaces have also been collected from Chiang Rai Province, Thailand and it is known the Karen people string the beads into necklaces, such necklaces in use also in the former Karenni States (current Kayah State of Burma), with the crop being known by the name cheik (var. kyeik, kayeik, kyeit) in Burmese. Job's tears necklace has been collected also from Yunnan Province, China, which has a population of Akha-Hani people and other minorities, but the Wa people of Yunnan also used the plant seeds (tɛ kao; lit. ‘fruit-Coix’) sewn onto fabrics and bags, etc.

The Wa people and other minorities like the Taungyo ethnic group use the beads in apparel in Shan State, Myanmar.

Borneo
Various indigenous Bornean tribes such as the Kelabit people of Sarawak state (and North Kalimantan, Indonesia), the Kadazandusun people and Murut people of Sabah state all use the plant beads as ornament. In the Kadazandusun language, the plant is called dalai. The Kayan of Borneo also use job's tears to decorate clothing and war dress.

Philippines
Job's tears (tigbí) are otherwise known by many local names in the Philippines (e.g. adlái in Visaya Islands). The beads strung together have sometimes been used as rosaries, or made into bead curtains (e.g. the Tboli people on Mindanao), or woven into baskets and other vessels.

Americas
The plant was known as calandula in Spanish, and the hards seeds were strung together as beads or into rosaries in parts of New Spain, e.g., Puerto Rico.

In both the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians and the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma, the beads of Job's tears are called "corn beads" or "Cherokee corn beads" and have been used for personal adornment.

Food
Throughout East Asia, Job's tears are available in dried form and cooked as a grain. Job's tears grains are widely eaten as a cereal. The cultivated varieties are soft-shelled, and can be easily cooked into gruels, etc. Among the Zomi in Southeast Asia, miim festival (Job's tears festival) was held annually to pay tribute to the departed souls.

Some of the soft-shelled types are easily threshed, producing sweet kernels. The threshed (and polished ) "kernels" or ren are used in traditional Chinese Medicine (see infra).

The threshed grains are generally spherical, with a groove on one end, and polished white in color. In Japan unpolished grains are also sold, and marketed as yūki hatomugi (‘organic job's tears’).

In Cambodia, where it is known as skuay (ស្គួយ), the seeds are not much used as a grain, but used as part of herbal medicine and as an ingredient in desserts. In Thailand, it is often consumed in teas and other drinks, such as soy milk.

It is also a minor cereal crop and fodder in Northeastern India.

The grains of Job's tear can be used the same way as rice. It can be eaten cooked or even raw, as it has a slightly sweet taste. Further, the grains can be used for the production of flour. Job's tear grains can be processed in the same machine as rice. For the soft hulls, it is enough to press them over a sieve. The advantage of Job's tear over rice is that the grains do not need to be polished, as is the case with rice. Through this process, the rice loses its vitamins. This makes Job's tear a valuable food for undernourished populations in rural areas.

Beverages and soups
In Korean cuisine, a thick drink called yulmu cha (율무차, literally "Job's tears tea") is made from powdered Job's tears. A similar drink, called yi ren jiang  (薏仁漿), also appears in Chinese cuisine, and is made by simmering whole polished Job's tears in water and sweetening the resulting thin, cloudy liquid with sugar. The grains are usually strained from the liquid but may also be consumed separately or together.

In Japan, the roasted kernels are brewed into hatomugi cha (ハトムギ茶), literally a "tea". This is drunk for medicinal value and not for enjoyment, as it does not suit the average consumer's taste, but a more palatable brew is obtained by roasting seeds that have been germinated, which reduces the distinctive strong odor.

In southern China, Job's tears are often used in tong sui (糖水), a sweet dessert soup. One variety is called ching bo leung in Cantonese, and is also known as sâm bổ lượng in Vietnamese cuisine. There is also a braised chicken dish yimidunji.

Alcoholic beverages
In both Korea and China, distilled liquors are also made from the grain. One Korean liquor is called okroju (옥로주; hanja: 玉露酒), which is made from rice and Job's tears. The grains are also brewed into beers in northeast India and other parts of southeast Asia.

Traditional medicine
Job's tears are used with other herbs in traditional Chinese medicine or folk medicine.

The plant is noted in an ancient medical text Huangdi Neijing (5th–2nd centuries BCE) attributed to the legendary Huangdi (Yellow Emperor), but fails to be noticed in the standard traditional materia medica reference Bencao Gangmu (本草綱目)(16c.).

Soil and climate requirement
It is generally grown in sunny, fertile, well-drained fields with sandy loam soil. Adlay likes mild, cool and humid climate. It does not adapt to hot and muggy climate, has low cold tolerance, and is very intolerant of drought. Black-shelled adlay is suitable for planting in areas with altitudes of 800 to 1,000 m; dwarf adlay varieties are suitable for planting in low altitude areas.

Seedbed requirements and sowing
Soaking seeds with disinfectant has a positive influence on germination rate.

Planting can be done when the ground temperature is above 12 °C. And if it is not frost, sowing should be done as early as possible to lengthen the required days to emergence and days to anthesis. Adlay sowing is divided into strip sowing and hole sowing. The strip sowing refers to the uniform sowing of seeds in trenches with a spacing of about 50 cm and a depth of 4–5 cm. Hole sowing refers to sowing seeds in holes 3–5 cm deep, with 3-4 seeds per hole.

Cultivation management
Control the number of seedlings per hole when the seedlings have 3-4 true leaves, and leave 2-3 well-grown plants in each hole.

Tillage at least 3 times during the whole crop growth. The 1st tillage is to be done when the seedlings are 5–10 cm high and needs to be cleaned of weeds to promote tillering. The second tillage is done when the seedlings are 15–20 cm high. The 3rd plowing is done when the seedlings are 30 cm high, combined with fertilizer and soil cultivation to promote root growth and prevent collapse.

Growth and development
It is an annual crop but it can be a perennial when allowed to develop ratoon. Adlay is propagated by seeds at the start of rain. The germination occurs as early as 7 days after sowing. It takes 5 to 5.5 months to flower and mature. The average height can reach over 90 cm at harvest. The application of N fertilizer can significantly improve the yield of adlay.

Drought is a major stress for adlay growth and development. The lack of moisture will cause impaired germination and poor establishment. During the growth and maturation stage, water deficits will reduce the leaf area index and lead to barrenness, which negatively affects photosynthesis and dry matter production.

Harvest and post-harvest operations
When nearly 80% of adlay grains turn brown, the panicle will be harvested by cutting the stems and leaving three nodes above the ground. The harvest period varies with the different varieties and local environment. Because of the uneven height and grain distribution, the use of machines for harvesting is limited and harvesting has been done by hand in many regions in Southeastern Asia. Then the harvested panicles are threshed by hand or using a treadle thresher. For manual threshing, it is normally used when the harvested grains are at lower moisture content and easily shatter. Threshed grains are sun dried or placed in drying facilities where they utilize forced warm air to gradually reduce the moisture content to 14% suited to storage before the adlay moves to the milling process. The adlay can be consumed as grains and flour after being milled through corn and rice mill. The milling recovery is about 60% depending on the cultivars.

The yield is harvested in early October and is easily influenced by the weather. If there is dry and hot wind in the initial phase, the pollen loses its vitality, therefore can’t be pollinated. This leads to hollow seeds, which results in yield reduction in light cultivars and zero yield in heavy cultivars. Early maturing varieties are sown in early March, middle maturing varieties are sown from late March to early April, and late maturing varieties are sown from late April to early May. Sowing should be early rather than late. If sowing is too late, it will affect the yield and even the seeds can not mature after autumn.

Nutritional value
The seeds of Job's tears are protein-rich and nutrient-dense. High in dietary fibre, zinc and calcium.  They contain micronutrients like thiamine, riboflavin, vitamin E, and niacin. They cover 8 types of amino acids for human consumption. Starch and protein

Job's tears contain high amount of starch (58%). The seeds are used as ingredients to make soup, porridge, flour and pastries. It is common to grind seeds into powder form to make pastries. Two major methods are used to isolate starch: alkaline steeping method and steeping with sodium metabisulfite (Na2S2O5), an antioxidant and antimicrobial agent. Job's tears also contain edible protein (14.8%), which can be extracted through an alkaline extraction method and a salt extraction method.

Fatty acids

Job's tears contain mostly unsaturated fatty acids. The four main fatty acids, (oleic acid, linoleic acid, palmitic acid, and stearic acid) are extracted via three methods: solvent processes, supercritical fluid extraction and ultrasonic-assisted extraction.

Pests
Job's tear is less subject to attacks of locusts than rice and corn. Insect pests include:

 * stem borers Sesamia inferens and Ostrinia furnacalis
 * rice skipper Pelopidas mathias (leaf feeder)
 * thrip Chaetanaphothrips orchidii
 * aphid Rhopalosiphum maidis
 * woolly aphid Ceratovacuna lanigera

It is susceptible to leaf blight.

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Chocolate syrup

Chocolate syrup, sometimes called chocolate sauce, is a sweet, chocolate-flavored condiment. It is often used as a topping or dessert sauce for various desserts, such as ice cream, or mixed with milk to make chocolate milk or blended with milk and ice cream to make a chocolate milkshake. Chocolate syrup is sold in a variety of consistencies, ranging from a thin liquid that can be drizzled from a bottle to a thick sauce that needs to be spooned onto the dessert item.

Chocolate syrup is also used to top puddings and cakes. Some restaurants use an artistic drizzling of chocolate syrup to decorate servings of cheesecake or cake, along with other decorations such as cocoa powder, powdered sugar or chocolate shavings. Some brands of chocolate syrup are marketed as chocolate milk syrup (e.g., Nesquik). Other brands are marketed as ice cream sundae toppings.

Ingredients
A simple chocolate syrup can be made from unsweetened cocoa powder, a sweetener such as sugar, and water. Recipes may also include other ingredients, such as corn syrup, malt, and flavorings like vanilla extract.

Industrial recipes may contain ingredients such as:

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Beginning in the 1890s, chocolate syrup was marketed as a treatment for ailments, including for infants suffering from colic. In part due to the passage of the 1906 Pure Food and Drug Act, which required clear and accurate labeling, chocolate syrup began to transition from primarily medical application to commercial use.

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Alexandra Louise Bastian (born 27 February 1982) is an English actress, known for her roles as Becca Dean in the Channel 4 soap opera Hollyoaks, Sally Armstrong in the ITV drama series The Bill and Becky Clarke in the BBC soap opera Doctors. She has also competed in the seventh series of Strictly Come Dancing.

Career
Bastian was signed to Storm Models, and has worked for Littlewoods within a new range called Drama Queens. Bastian joined the Channel 4 soap opera Hollyoaks in 2001 as Becca Dean. She was involved in a controversial storyline where her character was fired from her teaching job and sent to prison after having an affair with one of her students. In December 2005, alongside her Hollyoaks cast mates Jodi Albert and Sarah Jayne Dunn, she appeared in an exercise video, Hollyoaks Get Fit. At the 2006 British Soap Awards, Bastian and Chris Fountain won the award for Best Storyline. She departed from the series in 2007. Bastian then appeared on television in Cavegirl, A Touch of Frost, Twenty Four 7, and Here After.

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Heartburn is a 1986 American comedy-drama film directed and produced by Mike Nichols, starring Meryl Streep and Jack Nicholson. The screenplay, written by Nora Ephron, is based on her novel of the same name, a semi-biographical account of her marriage to Carl Bernstein. The film marked the debut of Kevin Spacey.

The song "Coming Around Again" was written and performed by Carly Simon, and became one of her biggest hits. The song reached No. 18 on the Billboard Hot 100 and No. 5 on the Billboard Adult Contemporary chart, and was soon followed by the album of the same name. The film was released in the United States on July 25, 1986.

Plot
Manhattan food writer Rachel Samstat and Washington, D.C. political columnist Mark Forman meet at a mutual friend's wedding. Both have been married before and Mark has a reputation for being a serial womanizer. After a whirlwind courtship, the two marry, despite Rachel's reservations.

They purchase a dilapidated townhouse and Rachel struggles to adapt to being a wife in Washington's political high society. The ongoing renovations of their house create some stress in Mark and Rachel's marriage, but they are brought closer together when she discovers she is pregnant. Rachel experiences a difficult labor in which the baby's life is briefly threatened, but she gives birth to a healthy baby girl, Annie.

Soon after, Rachel discovers evidence of Mark's extramarital affair with socialite Thelma Rice during her pregnancy with her second child. She leaves him and takes their daughter to New York, where she moves in with her father and gets her job back as a food writer.

Although Rachel insists that she has left him for good, she is dismayed when he fails to call her after several days. She inadvertently leads a burglar to a group therapy session she is attending in her therapist's apartment; he robs the group and takes Rachel's wedding ring. Just after, Mark arrives and asks her to come back, insisting he will never see Thelma again.

Rachel gives birth to their second child, but struggles to fully forgive Mark. She spreads a nasty rumor about Thelma having an infection (possibly herpes) but is caught out by Mark.

The New York police return Rachel's wedding ring after they catch the burglar. When she takes it to the jeweler's to get the stone tightened, she discovers that Mark has bought a very expensive necklace, which coincides with Thelma's birthday. Realizing that he has returned to the affair, Rachel sells her wedding ring and leaves with both her children for New York, this time for good.

Cast

 * Meryl Streep as Rachel Samstat
 * Jack Nicholson as Mark Forman
 * Stockard Channing as Julie Siegel
 * Jeff Daniels as Richard
 * Miloš Forman as Dmitri
 * Steven Hill as Harry Samstat
 * Catherine O'Hara as Betty
 * Mamie Gummer as Annie Forman
 * Joanna Gleason as Diana
 * Anna Maria Horsford as Della
 * Richard Masur as Arthur Siegel
 * Maureen Stapleton as Vera
 * Mercedes Ruehl as Eve
 * Kevin Spacey as Subway Thief
 * Dana Ivey as Wedding Speaker
 * Karen Akers as Thelma Rice
 * Jack Gilpin as Ellis
 * Kenneth Welsh as Dr. Appel
 * Natasha Lyonne as Rachel's niece

Production
The film was shot on location in Manhattan, Washington, D.C. and Alexandria, Virginia. Jack Nicholson replaced Mandy Patinkin after a day of shooting. Nora Ephron's screenplay is based on her 1983 autobiographical novel of the same name, and inspired by her tempestuous second marriage to Carl Bernstein and his affair with Margaret Jay, the daughter of former British Prime Minister James Callaghan.

The film's music was composed by Carly Simon. Her songs "Coming Around Again" and "Itsy Bitsy Spider" are included in the 1987 Grammy-nominated album Coming Around Again.

Critical response
On Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an approval rating of 45% based on 22 reviews, with an average rating of 5.6/10. The site's critics consensus reads: "Despite an astonishing collection of talent across the board, Heartburn's aimless plot inspires mild indigestion instead of romantic ardor." On Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 49 out of 100, based on 11 critics, indicating "mixed or average reviews". Audiences polled by CinemaScore gave the film an average grade of "B−" on an A+ to F scale.

Roger Ebert of the Chicago Sun-Times called it "a bitter, sour movie about two people who are only marginally interesting" and placed much of the blame on screenwriter Nora Ephron, who "should have based her story on somebody else's marriage. That way, she could have provided the distance and perspective that good comedy needs." He felt "she apparently had too much anger to transform the facts into entertaining fiction."

Variety thought it was "a beautifully crafted film with flawless performances and many splendid moments, yet the overall effect is a bit disappointing" and added, "While the day-to-day details are drawn with a striking clarity, Ephron's script never goes much beyond the mannerisms of middle-class life. Even with the sketchy background information, it's hard to tell what these people are feeling or what they want."

Pauline Kael of The New Yorker wrote: "The movie is full of talented people, who...are fun to watch, but after a while the scenes that don't point anywhere begin to add up, and you start asking yourself: 'What is this movie about?' You are still asking when it's over, and by then a flatness, a disappointment, is likely to have settled over the fillips you'd enjoyed," noting that "[t]hough Ephron is a gifted and a witty light essayist, her novel is no more than a variant of a princess fantasy: Rachel, the wife, is blameless; Mark, the husband, is simply a bad egg—an adulterer. And, reading the book, you don't have to take Rachel the bratty narrator very seriously; her self-pity is so thinly masked by humor and unabashed mean-spiritedness that you feel that the author is exploiting her life—trashing it by presenting it as a juicy, fast-action comic strip about a marriage of celebrities."

Leonard Maltin gave the film three stars out of a possible four, and wrote "Lightweight, superficial story is supercharged by two charismatic stars, who make it a must see."

Box office
The film opened in 843 theaters in the United States on July 25, 1986, and earned $5,783,079 during its opening weekend, ranking number two at the box office behind Aliens. It eventually grossed a total of $25,314,189 in the US and Canada. Internationally it grossed $27.3 million for a worldwide total of $52.6 million.

Accolades
Streep was named Best Actress at the Valladolid International Film Festival for her performance.

Kevin Spacey makes his film debut in a minor role as a subway thief.

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Blue Monday (1954 song)

"Blue Monday" is a song written by Dave Bartholomew, first recorded in 1953 by Smiley Lewis and issued as a single, in January 1954, on Imperial Records (catalog # 5268). The single, with a slow-rocking beat, features an instrumental electric guitar solo by Lewis.

It was later popularized in a recording by Fats Domino in 1956, also on Imperial (catalog # 5417), on which the songwriting credit was shared between him and Bartholomew. Most later versions have credited Bartholomew and Domino as co-writers. The baritone saxophone solo is by Herbert Hardesty.

Domino's version was featured in the 1956 film The Girl Can't Help It. It became one of the earliest rhythm and blues songs to make the Billboard charts, peaking at number five and reaching the number one spot on the R&B Best Sellers chart. The single reached number 23 on the UK Singles Chart It was included on the 1957 Liberty album This Is Fats and the 1959 Liberty album Fats Domino Sings 12,000,000 Records.

The song title was used for a 2006 biography of Domino by Rick Coleman.

Cover versions
Buddy Holly was one of the first to cover the song and Cat Stevens also recorded a cover version. Wilbert Harrison covered it on his 1969 album Let's Work Together. Tim Curry recorded the song for the theme of a 1986 British made-for-TV movie Blue Money. Gene Summers included "Blue Monday" on his 1981 album Gene Summers in Nashville for the French Big Beat label. Bob Seger covered the song for the 1989 film Road House and Dr. John covered the song for his 1992 album "Goin' Back to New Orleans." Huey Lewis and the News covered the song on their 1994 album Four Chords & Several Years Ago. Keith Almgren wrote lyrics in Swedish, with the song named "Härliga Lördag", and it was sung live in 1994 by Sten & Stanley.

Georgie Fame picked up on Fats Domino's piano introduction to "Blue Monday" at the introduction of his hit recording of "The Ballad of Bonnie and Clyde".

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Flying Casanovas

Flying Casanovas was a documentary on PBS about the different ways birds try to mate. Flying Casanovas was originally broadcast in 2001.

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