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Thanks for fixing my user page up to so I don't look so much like an illiterate dummy.--The_stuart 19:33, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Dogpatch USA edits
Roger, I see that you are a relatively new editor, so let me add my welcome. Some time ago I did a fairly extensive copyedit to Dogpatch USA in order to help improve. Most of my copyediting was relatively minor -- punctuation, simplifying wording, etc. All in all, I think it is an excellenet article, and I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. As an aside, that is one of the joys of Wikipedia: being exposed to information that one is otherwise very unlikely ever to encounter.

But back to my copyediting. A day or two ago you reverted a bunch of changes that I and others had made, without paying much attention, it seemed to me, to whether or not those edits improved the article. For example, you put "Dogpatch USA" back in italics in several instances (but not all). I can see no reason why this would be italicized since it is not the title of a book, movie, etc. You also reverted the change from "negative income" to "loss". I restored this because I think that the business terminology would be unclear to many readers, and a simpler term is available.

Most importantly, you restored the use of "would" to express past events. This was an issue on which I tread more carefully because I know that it is acceptable and preferable in some circumstances to use this construction. I canvassed other editors by posting a question on the Wikipedia Language Reference Desk here. Most (although not all) of the editors who commented agreed, some very strongly, that the article would be improved by converting this paragraph to the simple past. Armed with the knowledge that other editors agreed with me, I made the changes. I want to make it clear that I do not believe that this grammatical construction to be incorrect, only that in this case, the article would be improved by describing the events in a simpler grammatical construction. I understand that it is accepted in journalistic and literary circles. We are working on an encyclopedia, however.

I believe that there is support for my view in the Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles:

 * Wikipedia is an international encyclopedia. The people who read it have different backgrounds, education and worldview from you. Try to make your article accessible to as many of them as possible. The reader is probably reading the article to learn. It's quite possible the reader knows nothing at all about the subject: the article needs to explain it to them.

And here:

 * Reduce every sentence to its essentials. Wordiness has no place in Wikipedia. Conciseness, however, does not justify removing information from an article.

Using the simple past here is less confusing for readers, especially for those for whom English is a second language.

More generally, there was a lot of wordy and grandiolquent language in the article that other editors and I had removed and you have added back in, such as "unforeseen events transform the high hopes of investors into a financial roller coaster ride which eventually ended in the park's demise." This, to me, is no encyclopedic in tone. I left most of it in, however, because you clearly feel very strongly about it. I made the tense change, however, because I fell very strongly that it makes the article clearer to the reader, and there was no need for it here.

I hope that my explanation of my changes enables you to understand why I made them. Regards, Ground Zero | t 02:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Roger, please accept my apologies. have been rude in not responding to you. An election has been called in Canada, and I have been spending most of my time on issues related to that. Let me respond to a few of your comments:
 * "I did this by pasting and editing excerpts from my archived copies of the article.... My apologies for that :)),
 * Apology accepted. We all make mistakes, especially when just starting out in Wikipedia. I certainly made mistakes.

 * I restored "negative income" because I felt that "loss" was very ambiguous; loss of what? I would prefer "financial loss" or some such phrase if it must be changed to accomodate those less likely to understand business terminology.
 * Hmmm... I see you point about "loss" being ambiguous. The problem that I have with "negative income" is that it is an oxymoron, and sounds very much like business jargon. "Financial loss" would be a clearer term.

 * And finally, my use of grandiloquence in the introduction was not intended as such.
 * And I think "grandiloquence" was an unfair characterization on my part. There probably should be room for more creative language in Wikipedia, especially in an article about an amusement park.

Again, please forgive my tardiness in responding. Keep up the good work. Regards, Ground Zero | t 18:16, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Fair use images
Upload the image again, giving all the information you can about it. Fair use says Under U.S. copyright law, almost all work published after 1922 may have an active copyright so, 1925, we are out of luck. Tag it with Non-free fair use in, like this: Then see Image_description_page, which will explain what further information you should put on the image description page, to explain why the image is fair use. Lots of editors don't put this rationale, although strictly they should. If you put it, it will maximise the chances of your image not being deleted. :)

Have you considered looking through PD resources for images? See Public domain image resources. You never know your luck!

cheers, pfctdayelise 03:43, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Roger, let me say, I totally understand where you are coming from. Being lost in gibberish seems to be an integral part of immersing oneself in WP. There are many, many issues where I have just gone around in circles, pleaded on Talk pages for explanations, mostly to no avail. What do I do? Usually, let it go, and get myself lost in a different corner of the 'pedia. There are so many facets to editing here. I have become pretty heavily involved in . I find it is generally a lot clearer, probably because it hasn't had time to build up instruction creep (and also because it strives for multilinguality).

 * Some circles I have travelled in: Trying to find the right noticeboard to contact an admin (there are at least three); trying to find the right Help page to ask for help on (I guess I have settled on WP:HD, but I still think the explanations are not very clear and the process is misguided - how many users come back to see the answers to their questions? not too many, I think); trying to find out which bugs are features and which features are bugs...

 * I often think that the WP namespace should not be editable by just anyone. They should just form a committee, and have them be responsible, and just overhaul the whole fricking thing. Or the Help/tutorial pages at least. They're just dense and impenetrable.

 * OK, as for the "Presumed Free images" at WP:ICT, I would say that they intend to use that when an editor has uploaded an image without any copyright information at all, someone else has wandered across it, checked it for basic copyvios (like, it's not a logo, or obviously copyrighted), and they think that the editor took/created the image themselves, but didn't understand enough about the process to state that.

 * Man, don't even get me started on deletions. Like the image that you uploaded that got deleted. Had the admin contacted you, this could have been sorted a week ago. But because all these stupid processes are carried out manually - placing templates, contacting uploaders - a lot of these niceties, that would always be carried out if the workload wasn't so big, fall by the wayside. And goodfaith editors such as yourself are left totally perplexed. One thing that makes me angry is how much manual labour is carried out by editors when I just think, surely there must be some way to automate this. It's just a waste: instead of contributing to the encyclopedia, we're running around after one another with this notification or the other. That really frustrates me, so I just try my best to stay away from jobs like that. I like to help other editors become enthusiastic about WP though; that's why I answer Qs on the help desk - to try and short circuit that inevitable newbie frustration. Too many editors here have forgotten what it was like, I think.

 * I think I have a reasonable grasp on the image issues now, though. That's after several weeks of intensive reading, re-reading and re-re-reading the relevant pages.

 * So, to round out this essay ;) here are a couple of tips:

 * WP search is useless. Use google search restricted to WP by including this phrase:  (especially helpful when you can't locate that useful page you know you've seen, but forget the name of...)
 * When it gets too frustrating, drop it, leave it, go find another unrelated corner to poke around in.

 * If you ever have any other WP Qs, you are welcome of course to leave a note on my Talk page. There are lots of things I still have no clue about, but I will always try...

 * Yours in the WP spirit, pfctdayelise 14:01, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks a lot - it's a pleasure to meet you too. :) pfctdayelise 10:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Adelle Davis images
Are you sure? I can see three images! And the page history shows that you are the only person to have edited the page since 28 December. Maybe the images didn't load the first time? pfctdayelise 06:27, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

 * BTW, good job on tagging the images. I added the "fair use rationale" for the two pictures of her (which is necessary whenever the Non-free fair use in tag is used; this is not very strictly followed, though). Strictly speaking, the bookcover tag means the image should only be used on an article on the book (rather than on the author). But this is also not followed strictly at all. At any rate, I will add a Non-free fair use in tag to the book cover image, and then they will all be perfect and should not have any excuse to be deleted. :)
 * (PS. Are you working towards a featured article?) pfctdayelise 06:33, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Hey now, take it easy ;).
 * An Article validation feature is going to be introduced sometime, I don't know when. You'll be able to give "ratings" to each version of an article. So it is likely that FAs would have a lot of high ratings. Then, if the article was later edited and became messier, it would get lower ratings. I guess it means people would be able to look in the history and pick out the highest rated version. There is also Version 1.0 Editorial Team. There have been a few proposals for various ways to "freeze" articles once they reach featured status, but so far none of them have captured the collective imagination, it seems.
 * Anyway, have a good weekend, be sure to let me know if you ever put it up at WP:FAC! pfctdayelise 04:13, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Apologies?
Hi. It's my pleasure to talk to you again. It's a one-way street, though. Apologies? I doubt it. You certainly owe me one. But I don't expect to get it, 'cause I don't think you care about "little people" here on Wikipedia, the greengrocers like me, as you so aptly put it. At any rate, thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Your fellow Wikipedian, RogerK 05:05, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm afraid that I have no idea what this is about, nor what you want. You seem to be concerned with some long-ago reference to greengrocers' apostrophes, which you've taken personally.  I'd let it go, really — it's healthier. --Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 11:24, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

(passes buck)
At Articles for deletion/In the red, I've just cited one of your Dogpatch USA edits as the reason I originally thought there was a call for an in the red article. Feel free to join in. --Paul A 05:41, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes
Looks like you've got it sussed now. Images from commons don't need to be "imported" - you can treat them as if they were uploaded locally. That's the beauty of the commons! If you need any more specifci help let me know. pfctdayelise 04:04, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

12 Angry Men
Hm, having not seen the film, I'm not sure how well I can comment. :) Before nominating for FAC, I would compare it to some articles on films that have already been featured, so you have an idea of the standard. Casablanca (film) might be a good one. It is significantly longer, that is one thing that will probably be brought up... pfctdayelise (translate?) 00:05, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Loung Ung
I see you've added the information that Loung Ung "is contemplating a third [book]". How did you come across this information, may I ask? Syosset 18:59, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Hi Roger. Thanks for the prompt response.  I am a registered member.  My user talk page is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Syosset

Hi Roger. I see you spell Loung Ung's mother's name with "Chourng" as opposed to "Choung". It says "Choung" in the book, doesn't it? Oh, and I don't really care what the caption says, but I do think that it's, perhaps, a tad wordy at this point. Syosset 02:28, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

 * This is sad. It is nice to meet you also... thanks for some of your user templates on ur user page... I have incorporated them into my 'template archive' on my user page. David P. A. Hunter 12:50, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Finding a map with the locations already marked was a pleasant surprise (Image:UNG-CAM4.jpg)! After reading the book I was planning to locate the places on my own, but then found the page and then the image. Jay 15:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Response from Easter Monkey
Roger, hi, how are you. Nice to meet you. Please don't pull out the arbitration card right away. Arbitration is a last resort once all other options are exhausted. You do what you like, of course. But let's start out on a better footing. Look forward to hearing from you. --Easter Monkey 07:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Clearly I have been unable to communicate my intentions to you. A hastily written post to a talk page should not cloud your judgement though, as a non-professional writer I find tone very hard to convey in writing.  Believe it or not, I contribute in good faith as well.  As I said though, ultimately, you do what you like, whatever that might encompass, goes with saying. --Easter Monkey 06:55, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Dogpatch Quotes
That article is locked down to payed subsribers of the paper but, that is the link to the article and it does include the quotes I cited. --The_stuart 01:38, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Adelle Davis
It seems quite good, but I am not at all familiar with FA or peer review, so I can't say what its chances might be. I would move the lead image to the right (looks more standard) and there's a couple of footnotes that appear in the text rather than as footnotes, so they need fixing. And this has nothing much to do with the article, but try and link some longer phrases to more specific articles rather than really generic links like health, author. I mean those links are fine but there are also articles on (for example) Food additives and food industry. Google can help you find such articles by including the search term "site:en.wikipedia.org". Regards, pfctdayelise (translate?) 05:33, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Please accept my sincere apologies, Roger. I never noticed your first invitation. To make a long story short, on that day I was having a "discussion" with another user who likes to use vulgar profanities in talk pages and when I logged on that day, I only noticed his return message and didn't realize that you had also left a message. Anyway, I'm honored that you asked. It's a little late tonight, but I will make it a priority tomorrow. I did take a quick glance and, content-wise, it looks like a very-well developed and formatted article. If I have anything else to add tomorrow, I will leave a message on the talk page there.--WilliamThweatt 05:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh, Roger, I did respond, didn't you see it?
I posted my peer review five days ago, as soon as I saw your note. In fact it was: 01:39, 8 May 2006 (UTC) Click here and you'll see it.... :) Take care, --Easter Monkey 14:43, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

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Loung Ung
Thanks for your message. I had a look at the article, and made a few minor changes, but generally it looks fine to me. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 10:20, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Your MedCab case at Loung Ung
Hi RogerK! I saw your case at the Mediation Cabal and I'd be willing to mediate it, but first I'd like you to at least contact Mel and say (in a complete list) what you disagree with, to give a chance for him to give you a detailed explanation and (hopefully) solve the conflict before we get to the actual mediation.  f e  tofs  Hello! 20:19, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Oh, I see the discussion at Talk:Loung Ung has progressed. I'll see how things go...  f e  tofs  Hello! 13:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Arbitration? You're taking things a little bit too hard... I have already cited the policy, it says to generally use thumbnail images. Of course, it also says that setting it is acceptable. Therefore, none of the positions are "wrong" or "unacceptable", as it is general practice here to use thumbnail images instead of setting the pixel size. Might I suggest you a little break from this issue until you're not stressed anymore? Also, is the only discussion going on at Talk:Loung Ung? Could you cite the reasons why you want to use fixed px images? I thought mediation was premature when you first requested it, and arbitration would be even more premature.

 * Also, admins here are not like admins on other sites. I mean, normally, on the other sites, admins are a few (three/two max) hand-picked users who take over the site. At WP, adminshp is just about having handy tools. Next time you see an admin, just ignore that fact. He can't abuse his authority, because he doesn't have none, except for being able to block you. If he does, WP:RfAr is your friend.  f e  tofs  Hello! 12:40, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Roger, see Image:Wikiscreenshot_ung.jpg (on 800x600 resolution). The left one is the thumb, the right one is the fixed size image. Can this get the biggest point on using thumb images through?  f e  tofs  Hello! 12:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

 * It's true that a lot of FAs use fixed pixel images. If you think setting it is the best way, I think the primary way to solving this would be to step back and let you fix it, as the policy is not defined, but we still should continue the discussion before unilaterally changing it. Leave a message at Talk:Loung Ung and try to restart the discussion.

 * P.S: No, I don't want to say my name :P  f e  tofs  Hello! 13:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Not to disappoint you, but I agree with Mel at The Lady of Shalott. The images do seem to me not to be aesthetically pleasing, and they're much larger than the recommended max of 250px. However, you have to solve this issue with Mel, not with me.  f e  tofs  Hello! 19:44, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I meant that it is you that has to post a message in User talk:Mel Etitis so we can continue.  f e  tofs  Hello! 16:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

 * OK, we can wait for his reply. My suggestion for a break is still valid, for instance.  f e  tofs  Hello! 11:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

JW and Franz
Hi Roger! Vap0rtranz here, from Raymond Franz's page. We were editing on top of each other yesterday, aye? ;) I had a few concerns about reverting my edits and decided your Talk page would be a good place to discuss them.

My first concern is nomenclature. I want the article to be readable by non-JW's so, generally, I thought it best to write "religion" for anything not specific to JW's and "organization" for anything specific to Watchtower things. An anonymous user applied my general rule when they edited "was born and raised into the Jehovah's Witness religion". Obviously, that's awkward wordin ; I prefer your reversion "was born in 1922 and raised as a third-generation Jehovah's Witness". So it seems my general rule is flawed and wonder what should be our guide.

I similary am concerned about your revision of the Intro replacing my use of the word "religion" with "religious group". I find this latter term awkward because it sounds like a politically correct way to say "sect". I am not certain whether JW's are listed by the U.S. or other governments as a sect or cult, so why not call simply call Franz a member of a religion? The Dominican case would be a good citation, if anyone could find whether the Watchtower corporations were banned or any person professing to be a JW were banned, or, as I feel (but have no evidence) the Catholic Church convinced the Dominican government to ban JW's, both members and incorporations, as a competing religion.

Later, your revisions removed "publisher", "pioneer", and "branch overseer" and, although I see your point on terminology, I only included them so readers could watch Franz's progression through the hierachial organization. Also, I included a brief description of what these terms meant or how Franz personified them. So, I believe these terms fit the JW Project guide as instances of the line: "Avoid phrases that are unique to Jehovah's Witnesses that haven't been defined within the article". It is clear to me that as long as "pioneer", for example, is briefly defined in the Franz article by his full-time evangelizing, it fits this guideline. Incase a reader found even these brief descriptions insufficient, I included links to the organizational structure article where they are defined. But to broadly avoid any JW-specific terms, we could not include the term "Governing Body" but would always have to refer to some "cardinal-like council of men similar to Roman Catholicism", where I prefer to keep the former because it is verbosely explained in another Wiki, whereas the later would require a reader to cite "cardinal", "council", "Roman Catholics" etc. So, if we editors abstract JW articles to a kind of meta-religious nomenclature, then our readers could, I believe, be confused about what is specific to JW's versus any other religion.

Secondly, I am concerned about edits to cited statements, specifically edits that are more than grammatical. For example, I originally wrote that Franz "submitted a great number of biblical topics to the encyclopedia" and you revised this as "submitted a great number of biblical topics to Knorr for approval". I looked over Crisis of Conscience again but cannot find Franz attributing the collection or compilation to anyone, although he does say, in footnote 22 of Ch. 2 "The five of us recieved our assignments of subjects through Karl Adams, then the head of the Writing Department." So both our versions are incorrect: my version attempted to be vague about who compiled these articles by passively saying they went to the book; your version places the collection of articles on Knorr. So to be a cited statement, I think we should replace the terminology "collected" with "assigned" and only mention the 'head of the Writing Department' as giving the assignments. Otherwise it's our opinion, especially in regards the structure of the organzation (which the Nathan Knorr article already discusses).

So on these two points, namely, editing cited statements and nomenclature, I hope to reach some agreement. Kindest regard, Justin 01:04, 29 and 30 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Sorry for the delay; I took a small vacation :) In response to your suggestions from 29 June 2006 (UTC), "religion" sounds preferable to "religious group", and I will just drop JW specific terms from now on (although I disagree).  Missionary, luckily, is generic enough for the Franz article.  And, the blurb in your response, citing Christian Freedom, sounds great!  I feel it should be pasted into the article. (Hint, hint)  Finally, about the 'editors who want it done their way': I am more of a writer than an editor, so I am not too disturbed by some Wikipedians preferring Raymond over Ray or other disputes of form.  To get in fights of form and style would be the wrong battle, for me at least.

 * I had to return my copy of Crisis but I am checking it out again to continue the article. Thanks for responding ... faster than me  Justin 01:18, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

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Dogpatch/Monte Ne
Hey Roger, haven't heard from you in a while. Anyway, I've been notified that Dogpatch might be in trouble of loosing FA status because "standards have risen" since it was promoted. There seems to be a problem with the way the citations are done. I'm really terrible with that part, but I remember that you were really good at it. Was wondering if you are not still on hiatus, if you would take a look at it. Also, if you wouldn't mind checking out my latest article Monte Ne, it also suffers from citation problems. --The_stuart 13:19, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for responding. I didn't realize that you had tried to communicate and I never responded. My life as a college student is usually very hectic and I tend to let things go a long time without dealing with them quite often. That's probably what happened. I'm really sorry. Sorry to hear you are no longer interested in Wikipedia. This place takes really thick skin I know, people are so incredibly rude. No matter how much work I put into an article I always get told by some one that it is worthless.But, taking on the the enormous task of trying to please everyone has helped my writing abilities in leaps and bounds. I can churn out a good ten page paper for my classes in three hours tops now. I also see that over time the new rules of Wikipedia are helping it become a more legitimate and recognized reference source. Even the demands they are making on Dogpatch USA seem pretty legit to me. Most of it did come from only one source and articles need multiple sources and to be well cited to be representable of the best of the best of Wikipedia. If you ever want to come back and help me on any articles, I promise civility. Thanks again.

--The_stuart 14:44, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for complements on my writing, I'm glad you like it. Most of the complaints on citation seem to stem from the organization. I've done my best to learn the style of foot notes but it's still not good enough for FA apparently. Also, the article just needs some new eyes to proofread and rearrange prose. I have tried getting people to read it but it is very hard. The reason even I put it in FA was to try and get people interested. Some people have actually done some editing, it isn't as hopeless as when I was working on the Brooks-Baxter War, but still needs more work. Thanks again.

--The_stuart 18:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

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Capita

Capita plc is an international business process outsourcing and professional services company headquartered in London. It is the largest business process outsourcing and professional services company in the United Kingdom, with an overall market share of 29% in 2016, and has clients in central government, local government and the private sector. It also has a property and infrastructure consultancy division which is the fourth largest multidisciplinary consultancy in the UK. Roughly half of its turnover comes from the private sector and half from the public sector. Whilst UK-focused, Capita also has operations across Europe, Africa and Asia.

Established in 1984 and gaining its independence in 1987 management buyout, Capita's early business activities were largely orchestrated by Rod Aldridge, the company's first executive chairman. Since 1991, it has been listed on the London Stock Exchange. Various British government bodies have contracted services out to Capita, including the Ministry of Defence, Department for Business, Innovation and Skills, Department for Work and Pensions and numerous NHS Trusts. Aldridge stepped down as the company's CEO in 2006 amid claims that a personal loan made to the Labour Party had influenced government contracts that were awarded to Capita. In February 2007, a Capita office in Victoria, London was subject to a letter bomb attack that injured one person. In September 2019, Capita announced that it was re-branding as a "purpose-led" living wage employer; however, it subsequently abandoned this position after reports emerged that thousands of its employees were being paid below the minimum wage.

Across much of its existence, Capita has frequently engaged in acquisitions of other companies to fuel its growth, as well as the occasional divestment dependent upon circumstance; some of this acquisitions, such as of the 2015 purchase of a former government research operation responsible for food safety, has been subject to criticism. During 2018, following a profit warning, dividend suspension, a £700 million rights issue, and other measures amid rising debts and a pensions deficit, the company's share value dropped by 47%. Several divestments of non-core divisions took place during the late 2010s and early 2020s. In May 2019, the company became the first FTSE 250 company in 30 years to appoint rank-and-file workers to its board. During early 2023, Capita acknowledged that hackers had breached its systems and stolen personal information of almost a hundred business clients.

History
Capita was formed in 1984, as a division of the non-profit Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy (CIPFA). During 1987, it became an independent company with 33 staff as a result of a management buyout, led by Rod Aldridge, the company's first executive chairman. During 1991, it was listed on the London Stock Exchange.

A key development in Capita's fortunes was the emergence of the private finance initiative (PFI) model, under which private companies such as Capita could secure government contracts that involved them paying for the construction and delivery costs of a given project, such as a school or hospital, and earning income by renting the finished project to the public sector. Via PFI, Capita was awarded contracts for the provision of various services across numerous British government departments, including the National Health Service and the Ministry of Defence.

In October 1999, Capita purchased Capstan, a UK-based supplier of emergency cover teachers, in exchange for £6 million in cash and £7 million in shares in the business. During May 2001, it acquired the UK business of the loss adjuster McLarens Toplis in exchange of £33 million. Two years later, the company announced that it had achieved a record operating profit of £107 million.

During March 2006, Aldridge resigned as Capita's CEO in the aftermath of claims that contracts awarded to the company had been influenced by his loan of £1 million to the Labour Party. At the time of his resignation, Aldridge denied the claims and stated that he was leaving the company to avoid any lingering doubts on the matter. Aldridge had overseen the company's growth from a small company in 1987 to a FTSE 100 member in 2006. He was replaced by his longtime associate Paul Pindar.

In February 2007, a Capita office in Victoria, London was subject to a letter bomb attack that injured one person.

On 2 October 2009, one of Capita's businesses (Capita Financial Group) announced plans to move some of its operations from London to Leeds.

During the early 2010s, Capita undertook a series of acquisitions. In April 2011, it bought Right Document Solutions Holdings Limited ('RDS') for a cash-free consideration of £30 million; later that same year, it acquired the customer contact specialist Ventura in exchange for a cash consideration of £65 million. On 28 February 2013, Capita bought the Fire Service College from the Department for Communities and Local Government for £10 million.

In 2014, Pindar stepped down as Capita's CEO, he was replaced by Andy Parker.

During 2015, the company acquired Avocis, a German call centre business, and Trustmarque Solutions from rival outsourcing group Liberata in exchange for £57 million. In 2016, it purchased Orange Bus, a specialist digital interaction agency, and NYS Corporate events and travel agency in 2017. Around this time, Capita secured several key appointments and contracts within the British public sector.

In October 2017, the company announced that former Amec Foster Wheeler CEO Jonathan Lewis would take over as CEO from 1 December 2017, following the departure of Andy Parker. After completing an initial assessment, on 31 January 2018, Lewis announced a profit warning, dividend suspension, a £700 million rights issue, cost cutting and a disposals programme, as net debts were predicted to hit £1.15 billion and a pensions deficit reached £381 million. The announcement knocked 47% off Capita's shares, reducing its market value by over £1.1 billion. The share price slide continued the following day, losing a further 13%. On 3 April 2018, Capita shares fell 6% to a 20-year low after British Airways decided to retain in-house operation of two UK call centres rather than award contracts to run them to Capita. On 23 April 2018, Capita launched a cash call to raise £701m and reported a £513m loss for the previous financial year. On 1 August 2018, Capita announced its profits in the six months to 30 June had dropped to £80.5m (from £195m in the same period in 2017), while revenues were down 4% to £1.98bn; the company's shares fell almost 9% after markets opened, to 148p a share.

Following Lewis's appointment, Capita embarked on a medium-term strategy to turn around the company. In May 2019, the company became the first FTSE 250 company in 30 years to appoint rank-and-file workers to its board. Lyndsay Browne, a chartered accountant and finance manager, and Joseph Murphy, a project manager in the real estate division, topped competition from other internal candidates to become the first workers' representatives on Capita's board.

In September 2019, Capita announced that it was re-branding as a "purpose-led" living wage employer, changing its logo for the first time in 13 years. The company said that from April 2020, it will pay all 40,000 of its employees an independently verified "real living wage". This will involve a pay rise for almost 6,000 employees. The rates, which are set at the basic income needed to cover the real cost of living, are overseen by the Living Wage Commission. Less than five years later, Capita announced it would stop paying the real living wage and freeze pay for all staff as part of cost cutting measures.

During the early 2020s, the company undertook a series of divestments of non-core businesses with the aim of raising £700 million in response to financial pressures from the COVID-19 pandemic. Nevertheless, Capita still opted to make several strategic purchases and investments.

Consultancy division
In July 2019, the company announced that it was launching a consultancy arm. The new division will employ around 1,000 consultants and compete with the likes of Accenture, Deloitte and KPMG.

Healthcare recruitment
Capita entered the healthcare recruitment market during May 2011, through acquisition of Team24, a healthcare recruitment specialist owned by Robert Stiff extending the services offered within the recruitment industry.

Capita Financial Administrators
In March 2006, Capita Financial Administrators (CFA) was fined £300,000 by the Financial Services Authority for having poor anti-fraud controls. The division provides administration services for third parties and the Capita Group.

Legal services
Capita also intended to enter into the legal services market and entered into a funding arrangement with the Law Firm Optima Legal Services Limited which saw them, in the period between May 2006, to the end of 2009, invest a total of £36,700,000 by way of investment loans into Optima. As part of the funding arrangement Capita Group had the option of acquiring the shares of Optima Legal Services for the nominal sum of £1 upon the full implementation of the Legal Services Act 2007, which would make ownership of law firms by the likes of Capita possible. It is thought that such Alternative Business Structures ("ABS") could be lawful around October 2011. However, on 9 August 2010, it was reported that the Solicitors Regulatory Authority ("SRA") had found that the arrangement breached its rules in that it effectively amounted to an ABS. As a consequence, Optima Legal Services Lead Litigation and Property Partners, Philip Robinson and Anthony Ruane respectively were both severely reprimanded by the SRA for what was found to be professional misconduct and only narrowly avoided referral to the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal and Adrian Lamb, former CEO of Optima Legal Services Limited, left the business in June 2010.

Constructionline
In 1998, Capita won the contract to run Constructionline, the newly created Public-Private Partnership owned by the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (BIS). During March 2012, Capita acquired the UK arm of the construction consultancy firm Northcroft. In January 2015, Capita acquired Constructionline outright from BIS for £35m. Three years later, on 31 January 2018, Capita announced it wanted to sell Constructionline as part of a transformation programme including disposal of non-core assets and cost cutting. In June 2018, it was reported that Constructionline had been sold to private equity investor Warburg Pincus for £160m.

NHS Services
In June 2014, it was reported that at least five of eight Liverpool NHS Trusts which had contracted their payroll and recruitment to Capita in 2012, were withdrawing because of concerns about the quality of the service provided. Several NHS trusts contracted with the company for human resources services. West London Mental Health NHS Trust cancelled their contract in September 2014, after the company proved "unable to meet acceptable 'time to hire' targets", particularly for nurses. At the same time Alder Hey Children's NHS Foundation Trust and Liverpool Heart and Chest Hospital NHS Foundation Trust terminated their contracts.

In November, Mersey Care Trust revealed that "information governance issues" had been uncovered when the services were taken back in-house. Details of staff at other Merseyside trusts were sent to Liverpool Community Health Trust's HR department.

The company was awarded a four-year contract to become sole provider of administrative services including payment administration, management of medical records and eligibility lists of practitioners for GPs, opticians and dentists across the UK by NHS England in June 2015. In July 2016, it was reported that there was "a large backlog of unprocessed correspondence relating to patients". It was earlier reported that the company was unable to deal "effectively" with the movement of paper records between practices.

During 2015, an undercover investigation by The Daily Telegraph showed that in some cases locum agencies, Medicare and Team24 owned by Capita were charging some hospitals higher fees than others and giving false company details. The agencies were charging up to 49% of the fee. Health secretary Jeremy Hunt criticised agencies who sought "big profits" at the expense of the NHS and taxpayers and promised to "reduce the margins rip-off agencies are able to generate."

The company established Primary Care Support England in September 2015, replacing former regional services provided by each local health authority. The new service was described as shambolic by the Local Optical Committee Support Unit and the Optical Confederation. A deal was negotiated to enable optician practices to claim interest, administrative costs and bank charges on late payments of General Ophthalmic Services fees by Capita. In August 2016, a survey of GPs found 85% were missing records of recently registered patients, 65% had experienced shortages of clinical supplies or delays in deliveries, and 32% had suffered from missed or delayed payments. Delays in the payment of GP trainees' salaries were also reported. The situation was repeated in October 2017, with The Guardian reporting that "hundreds" of trainee GPs had not been paid. Capita was unable to say how many were affected in what the Cameron fund – a GP hardship charity – blamed on "another botched privatisation." Inadequacies by Capita may have put patients at risk. The National Audit Office maintains almost 90 women were told incorrectly they were no longer in the cervical screening programme. Patients could have been at risk due to trouble with the 'performers list' a list of NHS dentists, GP's and opticians. "The failure to update performers lists may have compromised patient safety in cases where practitioners should have been removed," the report authors maintained. Roughly 1,000 dentists, doctors and opticians could not work in 2016 due to delays processing new applications. Further failures included a backlog of 500,000 patient registration letters, failure to deliver medical supplies, and patients' medical records being lost or delayed.

In March 2019, Simon Stevens announced that the cervical screening programme administration they had been running would be brought back in house.

Education services

 * SIMS.net – Schools Information Management Software a Management information system used in 70% of primary and secondary schools across England and Wales to record many aspects of pupil data. In March 2009, Capita SIMS was said to be responsible for sending a truancy warning notice to the family of a Cheshire school pupil who had died two months before. SIMS also links with Capita One (through a process called B2B), which is a database used within Local Education Authorities for general analysis and overview of pupil and school data.
 * Individual Learning Account – A £290million scheme intended to give financial support to adult learners that was opened in 2000, and scrapped in 2001, following widespread and massive fraud.
 * Connexions Card – A £109million scheme that involved issuing 16- to 19-year-olds with smart cards that recorded their lesson attendance and rewarded them with discounts on consumer goods. It ran from 2002, until it was terminated in 2006, owing to lack of uptake.
 * Education Maintenance Allowance for the Learning and Skills Council.
 * Capita Education Resourcing – Capita Education Resourcing is an education recruitment specialist with a large networks of schools, colleges and nurseries across England and Wales. They have 19 offices covering teaching jobs operating throughout the UK.

Irish postcodes
During 2014, Capita were awarded the contract to introduce postcodes to the Republic of Ireland. The Irish communications minister has welcomed the implementation saying that the Irish code is the first in the world to be unique to each individual address. The scheme was launched in July 2015.

The emergency services have expressed concern that the new system may lead to responders having difficulty getting to incidents. Further, the Irish Data Protection Authority has raised concerns over the design of the code as information about individuals will be made more accessible. Liam Duggan, CEO of Capita Ireland stated at a Government enquiry in 2014, that they had thoroughly tested the new system for unsuitable words and even used a game of Scrabble for this purpose.

The project is generally running to programme and budget: roll out, which was originally planned to start in March 2015, will now take place in "mid-2015" and the cost, which was originally budgeted at €25 million has increased to €27 million.

Ministry of Defence Services
In 2012, Capita was awarded a 10 year long recruiting contract for the British Army, worth £1.3 billion. However, they have been greatly criticised, as they failed to meet the army's recruiting target every year up until 2020, with the shortfall ranging between 21% and 45% every single year. According to the National Audit Office one of the main failings of the contract was the new recruiting website, that was delivered in 2017- four years late and three times the original cost. In 2020, the contract was extended for two further years, meaning that it will now terminate in 2024. The Public Accounts Committee stated that Capita entered into the contract without "understanding the complexity of what it was taking on."

During 2019, Capita won a 12-year contract to operate the Defence Fire and Rescue Service, at 53 sites across the UK, Cyprus, and the Falkland Islands, in a deal worth £525 million. The deal also saw Capita take over all the work of the Defence Fire Training and Development Centre and transfer it to the national Fire Service College- including Royal Air Force firefighter training. However, Capita once more was subject to criticism when it proposed to cut firefighter numbers at HMNB Clyde and RNAD Coulport, two nuclear warhead facilities, by 15% less than two years after the contract was awarded. This was described as a purely cost-cutting measure, as the firm is set to request the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service to backfill the gaps in response.

In December 2020, an industry consortium led by Capita, called Fisher Training won a contract to deliver shore-based training to the Royal Navy and Royal Marines at 16 sites across the UK. The consortium is composed of Capita, Raytheon UK, Elbit Systems UK, and Fujitsu, and the contract is worth up to £2 billion.

Criticism
Capita Group has not been received well by the public and in the media. It has gained the nickname "Crapita", particularly from the coverage in the satirical and current affairs magazine Private Eye, which routinely documents the company's many failures and setbacks in the public sector.

During January 2013, it was revealed that Capita was embroiled in a scandal over misinforming people that they had to leave the UK as they had no valid visa. One such person was, in fact, the holder of a UK passport.

In April 2014, a leak to The Guardian revealed that the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) had to send civil servants in to help the company process personal independence payments for the seriously ill and the disabled. "Waiting times for assessment," the newspaper noted, "have been so long that in some cases people with terminal conditions have died before receiving a penny."

The 2015 sale of a government research operation charged with overlooking food safety to Capita has been criticised by Tim Lang, an advisor to the UK government and the WHO on food safety issues. Arguing that a for-profit operation will be under pressure to ignore low-paying projects vital to public safety and the environment, he indicates that there is no profit in public research concerning food and biodiversity or food and pesticide residues, and predicts "commercial concerns will skew Fera's priorities".

Former Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron questioned how Atos and Capita could have been paid over £500m from taxpayers money for assessing fitness to work as 61% who appealed won their appeals. Farron stated, "This adds to the suspicion that these companies are just driven by a profit motive, and the incentive is to get the assessments done, but not necessarily to get the assessments right. They are the ugly face of business."

Controversies
In September 2021, it was revealed that Capita had been paying thousands of its employees below the minimum wage.

Capita admitted in April 2023 that hackers breached its systems a month earlier and stole a small amount of client or staff data as part of a cyberattack involving a Russian ransomware gang. On 12 May 2023, the UK Universities Superannuation Scheme stated that Capita, its outsourced administration provider, had exposed "the personal data of about half a million members" during a cyberattack.

On 29 May 2023, a further 90 organisations reported data breaches of personal data held by Capita to the Information Commissioner's Office.

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Don't Tread on Me (album)

Don't Tread on Me is the eighth studio album by 311, which was released on August 16, 2005. The first single, "Don't Tread on Me", was released to radio on July 26, 2005. It peaked at #2 on the Billboard Modern Rock Tracks and #1 on the R&R Panel Alternative chart. The second single, "Speak Easy", was released on November 22, 2005 and a third "Frolic Room", was released on June 13, 2006.

Don't Tread on Me debuted and peaked at #5 on the Billboard 200, selling 91,000 copies in its first week of release. Despite the success of the leadoff single, the album, like its predecessor Evolver, has yet to receive an RIAA certification.

This is the third 311 album recorded in 311's recording studio The Hive in North Hollywood, California.

Reception/Controversy
"Don't Tread On Me" was met with largely mixed reviews and reactions from fans and critics alike, receiving a score of 51/100 on Metacritic, indicating 'Mixed or average reviews'.

Sometime in late 2004, many of Don’t Tread On Me’s demo tapes were Leaked on the now defunct 311 Bulletin Board, after someone supposedly hacked into lead singer Nick Hexum’s E-mail, stealing the files, and uploading them to the site. The leaked demos can be found here.

The band was not happy, and went as far as calling out leakers, and removing any mention of the album’s demos on the site.

Personnel
Credits adapted from album’s liner notes.

 * 311
 * Nick Hexum – vocals, rhythm guitar
 * S.A. Martinez – vocals
 * Chad Sexton – drums, percussion
 * Tim Mahoney – lead guitar
 * P-Nut – bass

 * Additional Musicians
 * Robert Greenidge - pans on "Speak Easy"

 * Production
 * 311 – producer
 * Ron Saint Germain - producer, engineer, mixer
 * Giff Tripp – assistant engineer
 * David Kahne – additional pre-production
 * Jason Walters – studio manager
 * Bryan Manley – studio technician
 * Joe Gastwirt – mastering
 * Shepard Fairey – artwork, design
 * Myriam Santos-Kayda – photography
 * Pablo Mathiason – A&R

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Protection
This page needs to be protected to avoid various anonymous users' vandalism. I just reported the users about this and the protection at Requests for page protection, just a couple hours ago. -- Mike Garcia | talk 1 July 2005 19:15 (UTC)

Tracklisting
Hey Mike, I don't think you should be posting tracklisting unless they are correct.

Mike don't you think you should have the correct tracklisting before you post it on here? -- 69.165.156.111 2 July 2005 12:07 (UTC)

 * Yes, it's the correct track listing, see: and I don't care if it's official or not. I hope you don't vandalize the page again when it's unprotected, and if you continue this bullshit again, I have no choice but to report you or get someone to ban you permanently. -- Mike Garcia | User talk:Mike Garcia 2 July 2005 14:25 (UTC)

I wish you would just have disclaimer or something to let them know this isn't official. It's not official and it's incorrect! I'm not talking out my ass I know 100% that's the wrong tracklisting. -- 69.165.156.111 2 July 2005 16:46 (UTC)

 * 69.165.156.111 (or should I say The truth about Hephaestos, who impersonates some friend of the real Hephaestos), it doesn't matter if the tracklisting is official or not and I don't care if it's right or wrong. To me it is right. Maybe you're just being too unconvinced with any one of my sources. -- Mike Garcia | User talk:Mike Garcia 2 July 2005 18:12 (UTC)

We are at a stand off lets just wait and see and if I'm wrong I will apologize. Just trying to have the right facts up for 311 fans.

As long-time editor of the 311 category over at MusicMoz, I'm outraged at your disregard for facts. A simple glance at the News page on 311.com would tell you that there are 11 tracks on the album, not 12. The band has NOT released an official setlist, so protecting a page that is incorrect is simply ignorant. I would appreciate it if you didn't send me comments claiming I vandalized the page when all that I did was fix the Producers field and corrected the release date. Good day. -- Greenmonkey911

The correct tracklisting is up at 311.com. Check it out.

 * C/P'd from 311.com:
 * Don't Tread On Me
 * Thank Your Lucky Stars
 * Frolic Room
 * Speak Easy
 * Solar Flare
 * Waiting
 * Long For the Flowers
 * Getting Through to Her
 * Whiskey And Wine
 * It's Getting OK Now
 * There's Always An Excuse
 * Can we get this unprotected and fixed now? Next time, I suggest a simple note 'this tracklist has yet to be confirmed' rather than an edit war and name-calling. KTHX.
 * ~ Aero Leviathan 21:30, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Sounds reasonable to me. That thing about not having a name-calling edit war, I mean. Anyway, I've unprotected the page now. Good luck. Shanes 20:05, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Why 311 album?
Why does a well-known phrase go to an article about a 311 album by default? I would argue that the phrase and its origin are more important than some contemporary and soon to be forgotten band. --jivy 21:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

 * “Soon to be forgotten” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jdisawsome6969311 (talk) 18:13, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Soon to be forgotten, i'm sure. Maybe you should research into the band first before you actually make such claims? This band has been around for over a decade, and is internationally famous, they had mainstream status before going back underground, but they have huge concerts once a year that have them playing over 60+ songs within 5 hours, a feat that probably less than 2% of bands alive today could ever hope to physically pull off. Soon to be forgotton? I doubt it. --User:DeepBlueVibes 23:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Wilhelm Reich...?
"Speak Easy" was inspired by the studies of Wilhelm Reich. Could someone explain that some more? I found that and all the people at www.taiyedbrodels.com (a 311 fan site) are wondering about it. I appreciate your hard work, big up!

I added a link to the official "inside look" SA and Nick took to the album. It will clear up that question and any others about some of the claims they made. 71.232.46.215 16:40, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Can we delete the metacritic mention?
I knew that 'Don't Tread on Me' was on Metacritic's 100 lowest albums, but it isn't anymore. It isn't likely to get any more (good or bad) reviews, so it is unlikely that it will re-enter the 'top' 100 at any point. I would delete it, but I'm new to this (but not the internets), so I don't want to mess up. Interval816 (talk) 15:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Convention People's Party

— Sesel wa  03:08, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

=Bias=

Untitled
Obviously this is just a stub, but the article remains largely comprised of party propaganda, with little attempt at external analysis. Some section on the party's history and prominence around independence is needed, then the continuation through to the present day.

Wrong reference?
Hello, The reference number 34 from the chapter about the CPP's structure can't be the one, where the information originally came from, right? 2A00:A200:0:E00:0:0:0:450 (talk) 11:35, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Anti-social Behaviour Act 2003

This needs loads. The law looks interesting in the way it targets folk devil groups and has specific sections on social housing tenants. This is a law that can ban you from your house (providing you are poor) and you can go to prison if you break it!

 * Not just can - this already has been done. I can't find a link to the full story now, but do remember reading it at the time. Once the ASBO was challeneged it was thrown out, due to lack of evidence, IIRC. I believe the article pointed out the difference level of proof required to get an ASBO, saying that this would have never had satisified the burden any other criminal punishment would be. MartinRe 19:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

It also has curfews on young people if a police officer has reasonable grounds for believing "that any members of the public have been intimidated, harassed, alarmed or distressed as a result of the presence or behaviour of groups of two or more persons in public places in any locality in his police area (the "relevant locality"), and "that anti-social behaviour is a significant and persistent problem in the relevant locality.". Secretlondon 03:09, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Agreed, this page needs help! I've changed the assertion that the Act created the ASBO (that was the Crime & Disorder Act 1998) and it doesn't seem to address begging (or 'panhandling') in any direct way. I don't know enough about it to say more, but I could add a fascinating discussion of part VI of the Act, on High Hedges, which actually doesn't target the poor and powerless! Redlentil 20:21, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Please do! I'd certainly love to read about hedge wars - I'm sure others would too! Secretlondon 20:31, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
 * There you go, then. High hedges added. The real fun is in the external link! Redlentil 19:33, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:List of Skies of Arcadia characters

Can someone help me make seperate character pages for all of the characters? I can provide links to sites for information and pictures. It would be appreciated. --Ramirez

 * I think that the individual characters ought to remain on one page; see WP:FICT for semi-official Wikipedia policy on the subject of minor fictional characters. A couple of other SoA articles would have already been deleted if they hadn't been merged into a larger article.  -Sean Curtin 04:48, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

If Vigoro is an Admiral of the Valulan Armada, why don't we put him in the section for those characters? --68.215.239.231 17:38, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Marco
''Marco is an orphan that Vyse, Aika, and Drachma meet in Valua's lower city. He is very rude to them. When they talk about their plans to break in to the colliseum to save the other Blue Rogues, he eavesdrops and runs off. Fearing that he will tell the Valuan authorities, the party decides to chase after him. When they catch Marco, Drachma literally wants to kill him, to which Marco replies that he wouldn't mind dying. Drachma says, "Good, then you have no regrets." However, Aika and Vyse prevent Drachma from killing him. Marco then says that he lives in the sewers and knows a path through them that leads to the Colliseum, but says that their plan is hopeless. Vyse tells Marco that he should be there when he breaks in to the Colisseum. When Marco sees Vyse break into the colisseum as promised, he opens up a passage in the sewers to shelter the newly rescued rogues. Even after seeing this, Marco still doesn't believe that Vyse can escape from Valua; and after Vyse defeats the executioner, Marco explains that his parents died trying to escape from Valua and warns Vyse to give up. Vyse replies by launching into the longest of his "never give up" speeches, and saying goodbye to Marco as he makes his way to the train station.  	 The next time the player sees Marco is when he is discovered as a stowaway in the Delphinus. When found, he joins as the first crew member. Marco is known for his mucous, which he flicks at enemies during the crew command.''

Do we really need all this (poorly written) detail on such a minor character? We're not here to retell the entire story though copy & pasting bits of the script. -- Steel 16:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I was in a hurry when I wrote that, so that's why the writing is not high-quality. I agree that script insertion is probably not a good idea, so I would definitely eliminate the Drachma quote.

 * While you're critiquing my recent additions, I hope someone remembers the names of all the Yufotoman characters I mentioned in the Moegi section.

 * I'm thinking of adding a "black pirates" section, although I would give a sentence at most to the ones that are only in the gamecube version. -- Todemo

 * I don't think we need more than a couple of lines, if that, for crew members. Would it be possible to cut down that Marco section? -- Steel 17:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I greatly shortened the Marco section.

How about this rule of thumb: for every two important scenes a character plays an important role in, they get three sentences in their character description. This would get halved for unimportant scenes, and halved for scenes where the character says only one line or so. For example, Galcian is in 15 scenes, and he plays an important role in all of them, and pretty much all of them are important, so he gets about 23 sentences. -- Todemo

 * That's making a big fuss over something very small. Just keep minor characters to 2 or 3 lines and not worry about working out how many scenes they're in, then dividing that by Pi or whatever. -- Steel 21:29, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Fina and Cupil
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Final Cupil's attack exceed that of the Vorlik Blade?

Crewmembers
As a solution to my restlessness and as a nice addition to this page, I'm adding an italicized section to each crew member entitled "Blue Rogues Special". Each member either attacks or heals; I think that adding this info is useful. Paul Haymon 01:28, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Also, it would be nice if there was a similar thing done for their abilities while on the Delphinus.

 * I don't think it's redundant or unnecessary to have these things. For one thing, this info was there previously in the characters' profiles; it just hasn't been organized uniformly.  Help is appreciated.  Paul Haymon 01:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the help, and nice pictures! Paul Haymon 01:18, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Age
How do we know some of the characters' ages? I know how Vyse, Aika, Fina, and Ramirez's ages are known, but what about the others? For instance, where does it say that Belleza is in her 30's? Is there any proof in the age? Because appearance may not mean that is their age. --71.118.81.153 23:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

They're mostly guesses, we do not know Enrique's age... don't know who came up with that one. Also Belleze looks more in her mid 20s, same for Vigoro. I also corrected Marco's bio, he "goes on to become" first admiral of the new Armada, not right after the game, he'd be 13-5... kid still picks his nose..

In-game ambiguities
Is it worth mentioning some of the in-game ambiguities in the article? For instance, how did Fina and Ramirez, who appear to be pure Silvites, come into existance on a station of only men? Was Fina cloned from a dead Silvite woman? Another thing that is unclear in the game is how there can be a day/night cycle when there is no sun. Thirdly, it would appear that there is a race of humans for every moon (the blue rogues would be members of the yellow race even though they live under the silver moon) EXCEPT purple. Of course, we can probably assume they were wiped out in the rains of destruction.

If we're not going to discuss those ambiguities in the article, I think we should shorten or take out the speculation about why Ramirez has a Spanish name when he wasn't originally Valuan. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.252.107.160 (talk) 03:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC).

Just because there was no purple race seen on screen, does not mean that they do not exist, as someone had to build all those discoveries. I also imagine that Fina and Ramirez may be a lot older than they seem, as seen by the elders, age affects the Silvites very differently than it does regular humans (Arcadians). This is a fantasy world, so it does not follow any scientific and or astronomical rules... as if it did, the 6 moons would obviously have to rotate around Arcadia, thus making it impossible for them to maintain their constant position over one stretch of land IE: Blue Moon over Yafutoma, Yellow Moon over Valua, etc.

Ramirez cleanup
I have partially edited the Ramirez acticle to correct it. whoever wrote it didn't have a clue what they were talking about, claiming that in the Legends Version only, the player battled Ramirez 3 times at the end, when the exact same thing happens in the original version.


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Gnorm Gnat

Gnorm Gnat is an American gag-a-day comic strip by Jim Davis based on fictional insects, with the primary focus on a gnat named Gnorm. The strip appeared in The Pendleton Times in Pendleton, Indiana, the only newspaper to publish the strip, from 1973 to 1975, but failure to take the character to mainstream success led Davis to instead create the comic strip Garfield. Mike Peters, creator of Mother Goose and Grimm, has said that Gnorm Gnat is now a part of "cartoon folklore" as a failure that paved the way for major success.

History
Davis developed the idea for the strip while assisting cartoonist Tom Ryan on his Tumbleweeds strip. Davis saw the possibilities for gags with insect characters, and the strip was adopted by The Pendleton Times starting in early 1973. However, Davis also approached syndicates to publish Gnorm Gnat and was rejected. According to writers Mark Acey and Scott Nickel, Davis would receive rejections for Gnorm Gnat for years. "I thought bugs were funny, and nobody else did", Davis would later tell the press.

Davis also recounted that one editor had advised him that "Your art is good, your gags are great, but bugs—nobody can relate to bugs!" Davis took the advice to heart and then turned to Garfield. Some in the media have also reported that Davis had become "bored with the strip." Another reporter suggested that the notion that no one can relate to insects has been disproved by some jokes in the comic strip The Far Side by Gary Larson.

For years since the strip ended, Davis claimed that the last published Gnorm Gnat strip was Gnorm being stepped on by a human foot. This was later debunked after a Google Drive document containing many editions of The Pendleton Times that included Gnorm Gnat comics was uploaded in 2019. The upload was made by Youtuber, and Garfield fan, Quinton Kyle Hoover, and a full history of how he managed to digitalize the comic can be found on his channel. The drive contained the actual final strip (published on Christmas Day 1975) just having the protagonist thank the fans who stuck with the strips while standing next to the message Merry Christmas with Gnorm saying "Thanks, Pendleton." The document also contained some strips for Davis' next work, Jon, a prototype to what would become Garfield, which debuted in the Times on January 8, 1976, two weeks after Gnorm Gnat ended. The comic strip Jon was renamed Garfield on August 1, 1977.

The Gnorm Gnat comics were published without copyright notices, making them and the characters public domain under pre-1977 copyright law.

Legacy
Garfield would later become accepted for national distribution by United Feature Syndicate in 1978 (the strip ended its run in the Times on March 2, and made its national debut on June 19 that year) and became a worldwide success. In 1992, one Garfield book called Garfield Takes His Licks referred to Gnorm as an in-joke. Gnorm Gnat was listed as #2 among the "Top Ten Comic Strips Jim Davis Tried Before Garfield", being placed behind "Garfield the Toaster" and above "Milt the Incontinent Hamster." In 1997, one Garfield comic strip featured a fly talking to a spider; Davis alluded to Gnorm Gnat by commenting that, "After nearly 30 years, I finally got a bug strip published".

However, Davis's fellow-cartoonist Mike Peters looked back on Gnorm Gnat in an unfavorable way. Peters claimed, "We can always be thankful that Jim's first strip never made it... Gnorm Gnat has gone down in cartoon folklore as a most fortunate failure. Can you imagine a bright orange gnat on every car window? A great, huge gnat for the Thanksgiving Day Parade. A big fat gnat saying 'I hate Tuesdays.'"

Characters
The characters of Gnorm Gnat were meant to be presented in a "simple, humorous style" of appearance. Davis displays the characters and describes them in the book 20 Years & Still Kicking!: Garfield's Twentieth Anniversary Collection.
 * Gnorm Gnat is a gnat who Davis says plays the "straight man" and who sometimes behaves like the character Walter Mitty.
 * Lyman is an insect with buck teeth who wears a hat. Described as "insane", he frequently irritates his "best friend" Gnorm with his punning quips and roundabout methods of cheating at tennis and checkers. Davis later named a character after him in Garfield.
 * Dr. Gougo is an unspecified insect who acts as an incompetent medical practitioner. He speaks in a broken German accent.
 * Freddy is a bedraggled fruit fly who has one week to live.
 * Natasha is a beautiful insect whom Gnorm has a crush on.
 * Dr. Morton Rosenwurm is an erudite worm. He has a fondness for reciting poetry, particularly the works of fictional Poet Laureate "John Arbuckle".
 * Cecil Slug is a naïve, dimwitted slug.
 * Drac Webb is a villainous spider (introduced as the strip's "token nasty") who eats other characters, typically by trapping them in webs.
 * Wench Webb is Drac Webb's wife and a "source of many Bickerson-type discussions". She is one of only two female characters in the strip.

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Nazareth Inscription

The Nazareth Inscription or Nazareth decree is a marble tablet inscribed in Greek with an edict from an unnamed Caesar ordering capital punishment for anyone caught disturbing graves or tombs. It is dated on the basis of epigraphy to the first half of the 1st century AD. Its provenance is unknown, but a French collector acquired the stone from Nazareth. It is now in the collections of the Louvre.

The text is read by scholars in the context of Roman law pertaining to exhumation and reburial, mentioned also by Pliny. The inscription is of interest to some authors for its indirect relationship to the historicity of Jesus, even though the text contains no reference to Jesus of Nazareth. A 2020 study of the marble's isotopes showed that the tablet came from a quarry in the Greek island of Kos, casting much doubt on the theory that it has any relationship to Jesus, and it may instead have been inscribed as a reaction to the desecration of the grave of the Kos tyrant Nikias circa 20 BCE.

Description and provenance
The marble tablet measures 24 by 15 inches, with the koine Greek inscription appearing in fourteen lines. It was acquired in 1878 by Wilhelm Fröhner (1834–1925), and sent from Nazareth to Paris. Fröhner entered the item in his manuscript inventory with the note "Dalle de marbre envoyé de Nazareth en 1878." Though indicating that the marble was sent from Nazareth, the note does not state that it was discovered there. Nazareth was a significant antiquities market in the 1870s, as was Jerusalem, and may have been "nothing more than … a shipping center" for the item. Since 1925 it has been in the Bibliothèque nationale, Paris, displayed in the Cabinet des Médailles.

The inscription, with a facsimile, was published in 1930 by Franz Cumont, who had been alerted to it by Rostovtseff.

Text
The Greek used in the inscription is relatively poor. Clyde E. Billington provides the following English translation:

It is my decision [concerning] graves and tombs—whoever has made them for the religious observances of parents, or children, or household members—that these remain undisturbed forever. But if anyone legally charges that another person has destroyed, or has in any manner extracted those who have been buried, or has moved with wicked intent those who have been buried to other places, committing a crime against them, or has moved sepulcher-sealing stones, against such a person, I order that a judicial tribunal be created, just as [is done] concerning the gods in human religious observances, even more so will it be obligatory to treat with honor those who have been entombed. You are absolutely not to allow anyone to move [those who have been entombed]. But if [someone does], I wish that [violator] to suffer capital punishment under the title of tomb-breaker.

Legal and cultural background
Violatio sepulchri ('tomb violation') was a crime under Roman law, as noted by Cicero (d. 43 BC). The Nazareth Inscription prescribes the death penalty for the offense. A tomb at which funeral rites had been duly performed became a locus religiosus, belonging to the divine rather than to the human realm. Roman Imperial tombstones are often inscribed with a curse (defixio) against anyone who desecrates the grave.

Analysis

Scholars have analysed the language and style of the Nazareth inscription and attempted to date it. It has been discussed in the context of tomb-robbery in antiquity.

Francis de Zulueta dates the inscription, based on the style of lettering, to between 50 B.C. and A.D. 50, but most likely around the turn of the era. As the text uses the plural form "gods", Zulueta concluded it most likely came from the Hellenized district of the Decapolis. Like Zulueta, J. Spencer Kennard, Jr. noted that the reference to "Caesar" indicated that "the inscription must have been derived from somewhere in Samaria or Decapolis; Galilee was ruled by a client-prince until the reign of Claudius".

It was once of interest to historians of the New Testament. Some authors, citing the inscription's supposed Galilean origin, interpreted it as Imperial Rome's clear reaction to the empty tomb of Jesus and specifically as an edict of Claudius, who reigned AD 41-54. If the inscription was originally set up in Galilee, it can date no earlier than 44, the year Roman rule was imposed there.

However, the 2020 isotope study of the marble published in the Journal of Archaeological Science clarified the origin of the tablet and points to another interpretation. The scientists took a sample from the back of the tablet, and used laser ablation to help determine the isotope ratio of the stone. The enrichment of carbon 13 and depletion of Oxygen 18 allowed a confident identification of the source of the marble as the upper quarry in the island of Kos. The team proposed that the edict was issued by Augustus after the desecration of the tomb of the Kos tyrant Nikias.

There is no mention at all made in the Nazareth Inscription of abusing a corpse but only of moving corpses to other locations with wicked intent. It also mentions multiple bodies being taken from tombs, not just one. Kyle Harper, one of the authors of the 2020 study, said that the theory that the Nazareth Inscription was written by Augustus because of the abuse of Nikias' corpse, “has not yet been proven”. Israel has no marble, so any marble would necessarily have to come from elsewhere — most likely from a location on the route from Rome to Judaea —, and the poor Greek makes it unlikely that the inscription was made in a Greek-speaking area.

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If you continue to vandalise articles you will be blocked from Wikipedia. I suggest you refrain if you wish to keep editing here. Thanks Dysprosia 03:15, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you were just trying to experiment, then use the sandbox instead. Thank you. --172.136.105.194 6 July 2005 20:34 (UTC)

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Just a personal bit of advice, the establishment does have a Neutral point of view(NPOV) policy here, that is, if it's not verifiable fact, everybody else wil beat you over the head with it. (no, just kidding.) It does mean, however, that you need to Check your facts, and if it's not provable, or someone might think it's biased, it will be edited out quickly, and not looked upon kindly.

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