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Computer-supported collaboration

Computer-supported collaboration research focuses on technology that affects groups, organizations, communities and societies, e.g., voice mail and text chat. It grew from cooperative work study of supporting people's work activities and working relationships. As net technology increasingly supported a wide range of recreational and social activities, consumer markets expanded the user base, enabling more and more people to connect online to create what researchers have called a computer supported cooperative work, which includes "all contexts in which technology is used to mediate human activities such as communication, coordination, cooperation, competition, entertainment, games, art, and music" (from CSCW 2023 ).

Focused on output
The subfield computer-mediated communication deals specifically with how humans use "computers" (or digital media) to form, support and maintain relationships with others (social uses), regulate information flow (instructional uses), and make decisions (including major financial and political ones). It does not focus on common work products or other "collaboration" but rather on "meeting" itself, and on trust. By contrast, CSC is focused on the output from, rather than the character or emotional consequences of, meetings or relationships, reflecting the difference between "communication" and "collaboration".

Focused on contracts and rendezvous
Unlike communication research, which focuses on trust, or computer science, which focuses on truth and logic, CSC focuses on cooperation and collaboration and decision making theory, which are more concerned with rendezvous and contract. For instance, auctions and market systems, which rely on offer and demand relationships, are studied as part of CSC but not usually as part of communication.

The term CSC emerged in the 1990s to replace the following terms:
 * workgroup computing, which emphasizes technology over the work being supported and seems to restrict inquiry to small organizational units.
 * groupware, which became a commercial buzzword and was used to describe popular commercial products such as Lotus Notes. Check here for a comprehensive literature review.
 * computer supported cooperative work, which is the name of a conference and which seems only to address research into experimental systems and the nature of workplaces and organizations doing "work", as opposed, say, to play or war.

Collaboration is not a software
Two different types of software are sometimes differentiated:
 * social software, which produces social ties as its primary output, e.g., a social network service
 * collaborative software, which produces a collaborative deliverable, e.g., an online collaborative encyclopedia like Wikipedia.

Base technologies such as netnews, email, chat and wikis could be described as "social", "collaborative" or both or neither. Those who say "social" seem to focus on so-called "virtual community" while those who say "collaborative" seem to be more concerned with content management and the actual output. While software may be designed to achieve closer social ties or specific deliverables, it is hard to support collaboration without also enabling relationships to form, and hard to support a social interaction without some kind of shared co-authored works.

May include games
Accordingly, the differentiation between social and collaborative software may also be stated as that between "play" and "work". Some theorists hold that a play ethic should apply, and that work must become more game-like or play-like in order to make using computers a more comfortable experience. The study of MUDs and MMRPGs in the 1980s and 1990s led many to this conclusion, which is now not controversial.

True multi-player computer games can be considered a simple form of collaboration, but only a few theorists include this as part of CSC.

Not just about "computing"
The relatively new areas of evolutionary computing, massively parallel algorithms, and even "artificial life" explore the solution of problems by the evolving interaction of large numbers of small actors, or agents, or decision-makers who interact in a largely unconstrained fashion. The "side effect" of the interaction may be a solution of interest, such as a new sorting algorithm; or there may be a permanent residual of the interaction, such as the setting of weights in a neural network that has now been "tuned" or "trained" to repeatedly solve a specific problem, such as making a decision about granting credit to a person, or distinguishing a diseased plant from a healthy one. Connectionism is a study of systems in which the learning is stored in the linkages, or connections, not in what is normally thought of as content.

This expands the definition of "computing", such that it is not just the data, or the metadata, or the context of the data, but the computer itself which is being "processed".

Requires protocols
Communication essential to the collaboration, or disruptive of it, is studied in CSC proper. It is somehow hard to find or draw a line between a well-defined process and general human communications.

Reflecting desired organization protocols and business processes and governance norms directly, so that regulated communication (the collaboration) can be told apart from free-form interactions, is important to collaboration research, if only to know where to stop the study of work and start the study of people. The subfield CMC or computer-mediated communication deals with human relationships.

Basic tasks
Tasks undertaken in this field resemble those of any social science, but with a special focus on systems integration and groups:

Less ambitiously, specific CSC fields are often studied under their own names with no reference to the more general field of study, focusing instead on the technology with only minimal attention to the collaboration implied, e.g. video games, videoconferences. Since some specialized devices exist for games or conferences that do not include all of the usual boot image capabilities of a true "computer", studying these separately may be justified. There is also separate study of e-learning, e-government, e-democracy and telemedicine. The subfield telework also often stands alone.

Early research
The development of this field reaches back to the late 1960s and the visionary assertions of Ted Nelson, Douglas Engelbart, Alan Kay, Glenn Gould, Nicholas Negroponte and others who saw a potential for digital media to ultimately redefine how people work. A very early thinker, Vannevar Bush, even suggested in 1945 As We May Think.

Numbers
The inventor of the computer "mouse", Douglas Engelbart, studied collaborative software (especially revision control in computer-aided software engineering and the way a graphic user interface could enable interpersonal communication) in the 1960s. Alan Kay worked on Smalltalk, which embodied these principles, in the 1970s, and by the 1980s it was well regarded and considered to represent the future of user interfaces.

However, at this time, collaboration capabilities were limited. As few computers had even local area networks, and processors were slow and expensive, the idea of using them simply to accelerate and "augment" human communication was eccentric in many situations. Computers processed numbers, not text, and the collaboration was in general devoted only to better and more accurate handling of numbers.

Text
This began to change in the 1980s with the rise of personal computers, modems and more general use of the Internet for non-academic purposes. People were clearly collaborating online with all sorts of motives, but using a small suite of tools (LISTSERV, netnews, IRC, MUD) to support all of those motives. Research at this time focused on textual communication, as there was little or no exchange of audio and video representations. Some researchers, such as Brenda Laurel, emphasized how similar online dialogue was to a play, and applied Aristotle's model of drama to their analysis of computers for collaboration.

Another major focus was hypertext—in its pre-HTML, pre-WWW form, focused more on links and semantic web applications than on graphics. Such systems as Superbook, NoteCards, KMS and the much simpler HyperTies and HyperCard were early examples of collaborative software used for e-learning.

Audio
In the 1990s, the rise of broadband networks and the dotcom boom presented the internet as mass media to a whole generation. By the late 1990s, VoIP and net phones and chat had emerged. For the first time, people used computers primarily as communications, not "computing" devices. This, however, had long been anticipated, predicted, and studied by experts in the field.

Video collaboration is not usually studied. Online videoconferencing and webcams have been studied in small scale use for decades but since people simply do not have built-in facilities to create video together directly, they are properly a communication, not collaboration, concern.

Pioneers
Other pioneers in the field included Ted Nelson, Austin Henderson, Kjeld Schmidt, Lucy Suchman, Sara Bly, Randy Farmer, and many "economists, social psychologists, anthropologists, organizational theorists, educators, and anyone else who can shed light on group activity." - Grudin.

Politics and business
In this century, the focus has shifted to sociology, political science, management science and other business disciplines. This reflects the use of the net in politics and business and even other high-stakes collaboration situations, such as war.

War
Though it is not studied at the ACM conferences, military use of collaborative software has been a very major impetus of work on maps and data fusion, used in military intelligence. A number of conferences and journals are concerned primarily with the military use of digital media and the security implications thereof.

Current research
Current research in computer-supported collaboration includes:

Speech recognition
Early researchers, such as Bill Buxton, had focused on non-voice gestures (like humming or whistling) as a way to communicate with the machine while not interfering too directly with speech directed at a person. Some researchers believed voice as command interfaces were bad for this reason, because they encouraged speaking as if to a "slave".

Link semantics
HTML supports simple link types with the REL tag and REV tag. Some standards for using these on the WWW were proposed, most notably in 1994, by people very familiar with earlier work in SGML. However, no such scheme has ever been adopted by a large number of web users, and the "semantic web" remains unrealized. Attempts such as crit.org have sometimes collapsed totally.

Identity and privacy
Who am I, online? Can an account be assumed to be the same as a person's real-life identity? Should I have rights to continue any relationship I start through a service, even if I'm not using it any longer? Who owns information about the user? What about others (not the user) who are affected by information revealed or learned by me?

Online identity and privacy concerns, especially identity theft, have grown to dominate the CSCW agenda in more recent years. The separate Computers, Freedom and Privacy conferences deal with larger social questions, but basic concerns that apply to systems and work process design tend still to be discussed as part of CSC research.

Online decision making
Where decisions are made based exclusively or mostly on information received or exchanged online, how do people rendezvous to signal their trust in it, and willingness to make major decisions on it?

Team consensus decision making in software engineering, and the role of revision control, revert, reputation and other functions, has always been a major focus of CSC: There is no software without someone writing it. Presumably, those who do write it must understand something about collaboration in their own team. This design and code, however, is only one form of collaborative content.

Collaborative content
What are the most efficient and effective ways to share information? Can creative networks form through online meeting/work systems? Can people have equal power relationships in building content?

By the late 1990s, with the rise of wikis (a simple repository and data dictionary that was easy for the public to use), the way consensus applied to joint editing, meeting agendas and so on had become a major concern. Different wikis adopted different social and pseudopolitical structures to combat the problems caused by conflicting points of view and differing opinions on content.

Workflow
How can work be made simpler, less prone to error, easier to learn? What role do diagrams and notations play in improving work output? What words do workers come to work already understanding, what do they misunderstand, and how can they use the same words to mean the same thing?

Study of content management, enterprise taxonomy and the other core instructional capital of the learning organization has become increasingly important due to ISO standards and the use of continuous improvement methods. Natural language and application commands tend to converge over time, becoming reflexive user interfaces.

Telework and human capital management
The role of social network analysis and outsourcing services like e-lance, especially when combined in services like LinkedIn, is of particular concern in human capital management—again, especially in the software industry, where it is becoming more and more normal to run 24x7 globally distributed shops.

Computer-supported collaboration on Art
The romanticized notion of a lone, genius artist has existed since the time of Giorgio Vasari’s Lives of the Artists, published in 1568. Vasari promulgated the idea that artistic skill was endowed upon chosen individuals by gods, which created an enduring and largely false popular misunderstanding of many artistic processes. Artists have used collaboration to complete large scale works for centuries, but the myth of the lone artist was not widely questioned until the 1960s and 1970s.

With the appearance of computers, and especially with the invention of the internet, collaboration on art became easier than before. This crowd-sourced creativity online is putting a "new twist" on traditional ideas of artistic ownership, online communication and art production. In some cases, people don't even know they are making contributions to online art.

Artists in the computer era are considered more "socially aware" in a way that supports social collaboration on social matters. Art duos, such as the Italian Hackatao duo, collaborate both physically and online while creating their art in order to "create a meeting place between the NFT and traditional art worlds."

Crowdsourcing aids with innovation processes, successful implementation and maintenance of ideas generation, thereby providing support for the development of promising innovative ideas. Crowdsourcing has been used in various ways from rousing musical numbers, to choreography, set design, costumes and marketing materials and in some cases was crowdsourced using social media platforms.

Related fields
Related fields are collaborative product development, CAD/CAM, computer-aided software engineering (CASE), concurrent engineering, workflow management, distance learning, telemedicine, medical CSCW and the real-time network conferences called MUDs (after "multi-user dungeons," although they are now used for more than game-playing).

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Julia Ecklar

Julia Ecklar (born 1964) is an American science fiction author and a singer and writer of filk music who recorded numerous albums in the Off Centaur label in the early 1980s, including Minus Ten and Counting, Horse-Tamer's Daughter, and Genesis. Her Divine Intervention album, released in 1986, was the first filk genre release to combine the lyrical elements with orchestral and rock arrangements.

Ecklar's first solo album in 25 years, Horsetamer, was finished by March 2013, and produced by Michael Moricz.

L.A. Graf
L.A. Graf is a pseudonym for the writing team formed by Ecklar, Karen Rose Cercone, and Melissa Crandall for the 1992 Star Trek novel #60 Ice Trap. For all later L.A. Graf novels the writing team was a partnership between Ecklar and Cercone. L.A. Graf reportedly stands for Let's All Get Rich and Famous.

as Julia Ecklar

 * The Kobayashi Maru (1989) Pocket Books: Star Trek #47, ISBN 0-671-65817-4
 * "The Music Box" (Analog, September 1989)
 * "Carmen Miranda and the Maracas of Death" (Carmen Miranda's Ghost Is Haunting Space Station Three, 1990 anthology, ISBN 0-671-69864-8)
 * "Extra Ellies" (Analog, May 1990)
 * "Burning Bridges" (Analog, November 1990)
 * "A Sweet Disorder" (Analog, September 1991)
 * Noah's Ark series
 * "Blood Relations" (Analog, June 1992)
 * "Ice Nights" (Analog, October 1992)
 * "Tide of Stars" (Analog, January 1995)
 * "The Human Animal" (Analog, April 1995)
 * "Promised Lives" (Fantasy & Science Fiction, September 1993)
 * ReGenesis (1995) Ace Books, ISBN 0-441-00189-0
 * "Thylacine Dream" (Otherwere: Stories of Transformation, 1996 anthology) ISBN 0-441-00363-X

as L.A. Graf

 * Ice Trap (July 1992) Star Trek #60, ISBN 0-671-78068-9
 * Death Count (November 1992) Star Trek #62, ISBN 0-671-79322-5
 * Firestorm (January 1994) Star Trek #68, ISBN 0-671-86588-9
 * Traitor Winds (June 1994) Star Trek #70, ISBN 0-671-86913-2
 * Caretaker (February 1995) Star Trek: Voyager #1, ISBN 0-671-51914-X
 * Extreme Prejudice (March 1995) Alien Nation #7, ISBN 0-671-79570-8
 * Time's Enemy (August 1996) Star Trek: DS9 #16, ISBN 0-671-65817-4
 * Armageddon Sky (September 1997) Star Trek: Day of Honor #2, ISBN 0-671-00675-4
 * War Dragons (June 1998) Star Trek: The Captain's Table #1, ISBN 0-671-01463-3
 * "Reflections" (The Lives of Dax, 1999 anthology) ISBN 0-671-02840-5
 * Rough Trails (July 2000) Star Trek: New Earth Book Three, ISBN 0-671-86913-2
 * The Janus Gate (October 2002 omnibus) ISBN 0-7394-2854-3
 * Present Tense (June 2002) ISBN 0-671-03635-1
 * Future Imperfect (June 2002) ISBN 0-671-03636-X
 * Past Prologue (July 2002) ISBN 0-7434-4596-1

Discography

 * To Touch the Stars: A Musical Celebration of Space Exploration (contributor)
 * Minus Ten and Counting (contributor)
 * Traveller (re-released on CD in 2006)
 * Genesis (out of print)
 * Divine Intervention (Prometheus Music, 1986)
 * Walkabout (Dodeka Records)
 * Balance (DAG Productions)
 * Space Heroes & Other Fools (contributor, 1983)
 * Horsetamer's Daughter (Off Centaur Publications, 1983)
 * A Wolfrider's Reflections (Warp Graphics, 1987)

Awards

 * John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer 1991
 * Inducted into the Filk Hall of Fame 1996

Pegasus Awards

 * Best Female Filker 1984
 * Best Performer 1987
 * Best Writer/Composer 1990
 * Best Literature Song 1990: "Daddy's Little Girl"
 * Best War/Vengeance Song 1991: "Temper of Revenge"
 * Best Filk Song 1992: "God Lives on Terra"
 * Best Sorcery Song 1997: "The Dark Is Rising" (with Susan Cooper)
 * Best Classic Filk Song 2004: "Ladyhawke!"
 * Best Classic Filk Song 2011: "The Phoenix"

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CKFM-FM

CKFM-FM (99.9 Virgin Radio) is a Canadian radio station, broadcasting on 99.9 MHz in Toronto, Ontario. The station is owned by Bell Media. The station airs a Top 40/CHR format, and is the flagship of Canada's "Virgin Radio" stations. CKFM's studios are located at 250 Richmond Street West in the Entertainment District, while its transmitter is located at the top of the CN Tower.

Early years
The station was launched in 1938 by the Rogers Radio Broadcasting Co. Ltd. (operated by Ted Rogers Sr., the father of the founder of Rogers Communications, as experimental FM station VE9AK. The station went off the air between 1942 and 1945 due to the war. It began broadcasting at 99.9 FM in 1947 as CFRB-FM, a simulcast of CFRB. Rogers Radio Broadcasting eventually became known as Standard Broadcasting, which was acquired by Argus Corporation in 1948.

In April 1961, the complete simulcast was dropped, in favour of some unique programming.

In April 1963, the station changed its call letters to CKFM-FM. All CFRB programming was discontinued. The station adopted an easy listening and MOR format, which lasted for many years and was very successful in ratings (a 1974 Billboard magazine article claimed the station had the most listeners in the 25-to-34-year-old age group of any Canadian radio station, AM or FM). During this time period, CKFM carried a few specialty shows, including a Sunday evening reggae program. Towards the latter part of the 1980s, CKFM transitioned towards a more younger-targeting adult contemporary format.

Mix/Mix FM (1991–2008)
The station adopted the brand name Mix 99.9, on September 2, 1991, and adopted a hot adult contemporary format to compete with CHUM-FM. The first song on "Mix" was "Changes" by David Bowie. The brand name was changed slightly to 99.9 Mix FM on August 8, 2006, and the branding was phased in throughout the day. This coincided with the return of former Kiss 92 and CHFI-FM morning show hosts Mad Dog and Billie to Toronto radio.

A Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) decision from May 31, 2007, stated that the station's call sign was changed to CFMX-FM. Within weeks, the station reverted to CKFM-FM, due to both potential confusion with CFMZ-FM as that station, licensed to Cobourg but also heard in Toronto because of a rebroadcaster, was previously known as CFMX-FM; and because as of November 14, 2007, according to Industry Canada databases, the Toronto rebroadcaster of CFMZ was actually still known as CFMX-FM-1 (not CFMZ-FM-1).

On October 28, 2007, CKFM was purchased by Astral Media as part of its purchase of Standard Broadcasting. Since its purchase by Astral, the hot AC format went in a more rhythmic-leaning direction, patterned after sister stations CJFM-FM in Montreal and CKZZ-FM in Vancouver, which both carried rhythmic-leaning hot AC formats. It also began airing the American Top 40, which usually airs on Top 40/CHR stations across the U.S. and Canada.

Virgin Radio (2008–present)
Astral announced a partnership with the Virgin Group to rebrand the station 99.9 Virgin Radio (pronounced, "nine-nine-nine Virgin Radio") on August 25, 2008, taking effect at 4 p.m. that day. The final song on "Mix" was Green Day's "Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)", while the first song on "Virgin" was Madonna's "Like a Virgin". The change came just before the original British Virgin station was slated to lose its licence to the "Virgin" name and rebrand as Absolute Radio.

Astral officials indicated at the time that, if the rebranding was successful, the "Virgin" brand would eventually be rolled out to other markets nationwide. Barely three months later, on December 4, Astral deemed the new brand a success, and announced that stations in Montreal, Ottawa, and Vancouver will be rebranded as "Virgin" stations effective early January 2009. All three stations will retain essentially the same formats (rock at the Ottawa station, hot AC in Montreal and Vancouver). In addition to the aforementioned three stations, the "Virgin" branding has since been expanded to Calgary, Edmonton, London, Winnipeg, Kitchener, Halifax, Victoria, Kelowna and Windsor.

In June 2010, CKFM slightly changed its branding 99.9 Virgin Radio (pronounced, "ninety-nine-nine Virgin Radio"). A week after the change, the station held a contest called "Say it & Win!", where the 99th caller gets 10 seconds to say their new branding, "ninety-nine-nine Virgin Radio" for as many times as they can. For each time the contestant read out their new name, $100 would be given to them.

On June 27, 2013, Bell Media completed its acquisition of Astral Media, making CKFM a sister station to sports talk-formatted CHUM and Hot AC-formatted CHUM-FM. Due to CRTC ownership limits, Bell and Astral's fellow FM stations CFXJ-FM and CHBM-FM were sold to Newcap Radio (now as Stingray Radio).

In 2023 Daryn Jones joined the station as co-host with Deepa Prashad of the morning show.

HD Radio
On July 4, 2017, CKFM launched HD Radio multi-casting services. The HD1 sub-channel carries the same programming as the standard analog frequency. As of mid-2018, the HD2 sub-channel carries a simulcast of sister station CFRB, the HD3 sub-channel carries a simulcast of CHUM, and the HD4 channel carries a country format branded as Pure Country.

Controversies
After Virgin posters featuring a kitchen radio poised at the edge of a TTC subway platform with the caption "give your radio a reason to live," had appeared in Toronto, Toronto Public Space Committee criticized poster ad was "in poor taste". The city's transportation department later ordered the removal of the posters. According to TTC chair Adam Giambrone, the TTC had allowed the photo for the poster to be taken at a subway station based on a request to photograph various radios on TTC platforms. Although a supervisor was on site, there was no indication on how the photos would be used in the ad.

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CIUT-FM

CIUT-FM is a campus and community radio station owned and operated by the University of Toronto. The station broadcasts live and continuously from Toronto on the 89.5 FM frequency. Programming can also be heard nationally via channel 826 on Shaw Direct, and over the internet via the CIUT website. The station is financially supported by donations and an undergraduate student levy. CIUT-FM also broadcasts a Punjabi and Urdu language station, Sur Sagar Radio on a Subsidiary Communications Multiplex Operation frequency.

CIUT's studios are located on Tower Road on the University of Toronto campus, while its transmitter is located atop First Canadian Place in Toronto's Financial District.

History
The station began as a closed-circuit broadcaster called Radio Varsity in 1966, later becoming Input Radio, UTR and then CJUT. All these versions of the station were only heard within the confines of the University of Toronto, thanks to an extensive network of loudspeakers, amplifiers, and cables strung through the extensive underground network of steam tunnels beneath the University's St. George campus. The station was granted a broadcast license and became CIUT-FM in 1986, and on January 15, 1987, the station's FM broadcasts began to reach a considerably wider range across southern Ontario.

In 1999, CIUT was $150,000 in debt resulting in the student union taking over management, firing two employees, dismissing five volunteers, shortening time slots for other programs and selling late-night time slots to an internet broadcaster.

The next year, the station was sued by one of the dismissed programmers, Eddy Brake, who challenged his dismissal as well as the restructuring. The lawsuit was settled out of court in 2005. Today, CIUT broadcasts at 15 kilowatts from a transmitter on the top of First Canadian Place in Downtown Toronto. With greater signal power than generally found at other community radio stations, CIUT's broadcast reaches as far as Barrie to the north, Buffalo to the south, Kitchener to the west and Cobourg to the east.

In 2009, CIUT moved from 91 St. George Street, the Victorian house it had occupied for 40 years, to new studios in Hart House. The old location was demolished in order to make way for the expansion of the Rotman School of Management.

In the fall of 2010, CIUT's board of directors cancelled station manager Brian Burchell's contract due to financial irregularities. As a result, program director Ken Stowar was appointed to the additional role of station manager.

In 2012, CIUT filed a lawsuit against Burchell seeking damages of $162,193.68 for what The Varsity newspaper described as "alleged long-term embezzlement" prior to his firing in October 2010.

In 2014, the CIUT transmitter of 27 years died, shutting the station off the air for a couple of days until a backup transmitter could be shipped to Toronto from Nova Scotia. In the ensuing fundraising drive, money was raised and a new transmitter was installed and operating by August.

Programming
Programs in the spoken word (talk radio) format include: local politics, current events and news; as well as programs focused on Indigenous Peoples, Women in Politics, African Canadian Families, Community Activism, and Health Care.

Musical programming includes many different genres such as folk, classical, Latino, world music, indie, rock, and electronic music. CIUT is the home of The Prophecy, the longest running drum and bass radio show in North America.

Aside from being home to two of the longest running Hip Hop shows in Canada; The Drill Squad & The Masterplan Show, 6 Degrees has been recognized as one of the most influential Hip Hop radio shows in Toronto today.

Alumni
Former Radio Varsity/CIUT talent includes:
 * Paul Shaffer; 7T1, well-known musical director, producer, performer, and David Letterman sidekick.
 * Jeff Healey; blues guitarist
 * Mopa Dean; singer for hardcore punk band Armed and Hammered
 * Stacy Case; founder of the Pillow Fight League and amateur film maker
 * Lise Waxer; musicologist, professor and author of works about Latin Jazz
 * Dave O Rama; Original member of the CIUT FM Music Programming Committee and former member of the Board Of Directors. Former host and producer of the CIUT FM programs The Dream Consortium, Headstrokes and Alligator Wine. Current host and producer of The Lovecast, broadcasting on Saturdays at 4pm on CIUT FM.
 * Cheri DiNovo; hosted The Radical Reverend before being elected to the Ontario legislature for the New Democratic Party of Ontario in 2006. Show resumed after she left office in 2017.
 * Mike Sullivan; former CBC master control radio operator, elected to Parliament of Canada as New Democratic Party of Canada in 2011.
 * Dominic LeBlanc; member of Board Of Directors, later Liberal Party of Canada Member of Parliament since 2000.
 * Michelle Marin; DJ, Producer and Host of Ultra Latino radio; Since January 2015
 * Jonathan Culp; filmmaker, musician, media artist, and writer

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Content was from another source. Removed. -- Brux 20:53 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Home Alone

Legit?

 * Renegade Cut's take on the White Suburban Revenge Fantasy Espngeek (talk) 21:30, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Inspiration?
per Culkin's feature interview in Esquire, the film was inspired by a scene in Uncle Buck:

"(...) the John Hughes comedy Uncle Buck. In one scene, a woman arrives at the front door and [Culkin] peers through the mail slot. “That scene where I’m looking through the mail slot? Hughes saw that and he got the idea: Kid defends house! And he wrote Home Alone for me,” [Culkin] says."

I'm reluctant to accept Culkin's story as gospel (although it's certainly plausible that Hughes might have told him this), but I feel it should be included in the article in some way. Suggestions? DS (talk) 17:41, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , I certainly think this should be added. It could be added in the Production section. Thanks, Thatone weird wikier Say hi 18:47, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Marv's last name
It currently says his last name is Merchants. Any source for this? I think the last names of Harry and Marv are not mentioned in the first movie. In the script (fourth draft) and novelization, the names are Harry Lyme and Marvin Murchens. In the sequel, apparently their names are given in a newspaper as Harry Lyme and Marvin Murchins. RabbitFromMars (talk) 13:09, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:FILMCAST "All names should be referred to as credited". I see it has been fixed already. -- 109.78.198.49 (talk) 11:00, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 15 November 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Clear consensus against a move here. (closed by non-admin page mover) SkyWarrior  01:54, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

– Home Alone franchise probably is the main article. 70.21.185.43 (talk) 01:28, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Home Alone → Home Alone (film)
 * Home Alone (franchise) → Home Alone
 * Oppose The first film is the primary topic and should continue to be the main article. I would recommend locking the page to prevent it being moved or renamed. -- 109.78.198.49 (talk) 10:45, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Oppose, generally speaking, when someone says "Home Alone" referencing the franchise, they refer exclusively to the original film. The franchise seems to be relevant |Home_Alone_(franchise) during Christmas season, while the original film is relevant the whole year. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 22:00, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose I count 75% of views for the film, and the original easily eclipses any of the other films (outside of 2), so unless there's a guideline here similar to the VG one, this shouldn't be moved. Nohomersryan (talk) 00:37, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose primary topic/usage is the first film, not the franchise.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 08:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose this is the main article. The franchise has (franchise) in it to further clear up confusion. The7Guy (talk) 00:03, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose Typing in or clicking on "Home Alone" will bring up the first movie. Typing in or clicking "Home Alone 2" will bring up the second, etc. All movies have articles it seems, all with disambiguating names. The first film and the franchise are the only potential for confusion. Yet with exception of the first two movies, this franchise is hardly a "franchise", as the later movies have little to do with the earlier movies, or even each other for that matter. If we need a "franchise" article we definitely need the "franchise" part of the name IMO or confused readers are going to be article chasing. 63.248.183.81 (talk) 10:53, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose as the first film is still the primary topic and I would believe that most people who type this into the search bar would be looking for the article on the first film rather than the article on the franchise as a whole. Aoba47 (talk) 00:47, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Popular in Poland
Editors have added some information about the enduring popularity of this film in Poland. This seems like a poor fit for the Critical response section, and in general frequent airing of a classic film on television seems like it would be a better fit for the Release section of the article. -- 109.79.164.114 (talk) 16:48, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

 * I'm unsure as well the level of detail given to the Poland section, including the exact times the film was shown, e.g. "Christmas Day (December 25), 1995, at 20:10 CET". duncan (talk) 15:43, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

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A Page for Kevin McCallister?
I think Kevin McCallister has enough information to fill a page. MrCboY1997 (talk) 14:36, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

"Guys, I'm eating junk food and watching rubbish, you better come out and stop me!" listed at Redirects for discussion
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AIDS-defining clinical condition

AIDS-defining clinical conditions (also known as AIDS-defining illnesses or AIDS-defining diseases) is the list of diseases published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) that are associated with AIDS and used worldwide as a guideline for AIDS diagnosis. CDC exclusively uses the term AIDS-defining clinical conditions, but the other terms remain in common use.

This list governs the US government's classification of HIV disease. This is to allow the government to handle epidemic statistics and define who receives US government assistance. However, considerable variation exists in the relative risk of death following different AIDS-defining clinical conditions.

Definition
According to the CDC definition, a patient has AIDS if they are infected with HIV and have either:
 * a CD4+ T-cell count below 200 cells/μL
 * a CD4+ T-cell percentage of total lymphocytes of less than 14%
 * or one of the defining illnesses.

A patient presenting one of the above conditions but with laboratory evidence against HIV infection is not normally considered to have AIDS, but an AIDS diagnosis may be given if the patient has had Pneumocystis jirovecii pneumonia, and has not:
 * undergone high-dose corticoid therapy or other immunosuppressive/cytotoxic therapy in the three months before the onset of the indicator disease
 * been diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, lymphocytic leukemia, multiple myeloma, or any cancer of lymphoreticular or histiocytic tissue, or angioimmunoblastic lymphoadenopathy
 * or been diagnosed with a genetic immunodeficiency syndrome atypical of HIV infection, such as one involving hypogammaglobulinemia.

2008 definition
Are the following:
 * 1) Candidiasis of bronchi, trachea, or lungs
 * 2) Candidiasis esophageal
 * 3) Coccidioidomycosis, disseminated or extrapulmonary
 * 4) Cryptococcosis, extrapulmonary
 * 5) Cryptosporidiosis, chronic intestinal for longer than 1 month
 * 6) Cytomegalovirus disease (other than liver, spleen or lymph nodes)
 * 7) Cytomegalovirus retinitis (with loss of vision)
 * 8) Encephalopathy (HIV-related)
 * 9) Herpes simplex: chronic ulcer(s) (for more than 1 month); or bronchitis, pneumonitis, or esophagitis
 * 10) Histoplasmosis, disseminated or extrapulmonary
 * 11) Isosporiasis, chronic intestinal (for more than 1 month)
 * 12) Kaposi's sarcoma
 * 13) Lymphoma, Burkitt's
 * 14) Lymphoma, immunoblastic (or equivalent term)
 * 15) Lymphoma, primary, of brain
 * 16) Mycobacterium avium complex or Mycobacterium kansasii, disseminated or extrapulmonary
 * 17) Mycobacterium, other species, disseminated or extrapulmonary
 * 18) Mycobacterium tuberculosis, any site (extrapulmonary)
 * 19) Pneumocystis jirovecii pneumonia (formerly Pneumocystis carinii)
 * 20) Progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy
 * 21) Salmonella sepsis (recurrent)
 * 22) Toxoplasmosis of the brain
 * 23) Tuberculosis, disseminated
 * 24) Wasting syndrome due to HIV

Added in 1993

 * 1) Cervical cancer (invasive)
 * 2) Mycobacterium tuberculosis, any site (pulmonary)
 * 3) Pneumonia (recurrent)

Children < 13 years
Additional conditions are included for children younger than 13:
 * Bacterial infections, multiple or recurrent
 * Lymphoid interstitial pneumonia or pulmonary lymphoid hyperplasia complex

History
In 1993, the CDC added pulmonary tuberculosis, recurrent pneumonia and invasive cervical cancer to the list of clinical conditions in the AIDS surveillance case definition published in 1987 and expanded the AIDS surveillance case definition to include all HIV-infected persons with CD4+ T-lymphocyte counts of fewer than 200 cells/μL or a CD4+ percentage of less than 14. Outside the US, however, diagnosis with a listed opportunistic infection is still required.

It has been suggested that other conditions (such as penicilliosis) should be included in other countries.

Kaposi's Sarcoma
Kaposi's Sarcoma (KS) is an extremely common disease that arises in AIDS patients and HIV-infected individuals. The condition is characterized by large purple lesions on the skin and mouth. KS presents itself differently for everyone affected by it, and its symptoms and progression varies from person to person as well. There are four different populations that are at risk for KS, all of which are caused by infection with human herpesvirus 8. In the United States, almost every case of Kaposi's Sarcoma is indirectly caused by HIV infection. The disease is the most common among male homosexuals, presumably because human herpesvirus 8 exists with the most prevalence within this population.

The remaining types of KS are known as Classic (Mediterranean), Endemic (African), and Transplant-related Kaposi's Sarcoma. Classic KS is common in regions of the Middle East, where herpesvirus 8 is fairly prevalent. KS occurrences in these regions are mainly found in older men, which is thought to be due to the natural decline of the immune system's strength when we age. Endemic KS presents itself the same way, but is a result of many people in certain regions of Africa being infected with human herpesvirus 8. In contrast to older men being affected in Classical infections, Endemic KS mainly affects young children, as the virus is transferred from mother to child via saliva. The final type of KS, transplant-related, is theoretically capable of manifesting in anyone. Transplant patients must take very strong immunosuppressant drugs to ensure that the body does not reject their new heart, liver, etc. However, a consequence of this is, of course, that their immune system becomes quite weak, and therefore very susceptible to infections. In a similar manner to how HIV contributes to KS, transplant patients are also at high risk for it, especially if the transplant was performed in a country where human herpesvirus 8 is endemic. In recent years, however, incidences of Kaposi's sarcoma in the United States have dwindled so much that physicians today often fail to consider it as a possibility when making diagnoses.

Toxoplasmosis
In the central nervous system, the most common AIDS-defining condition is toxoplasmosis. Caused by the parasite Toxoplasma gondii, toxoplasmosis in HIV-infected patients mainly presents as encephalitis, or inflammation of the brain, but can take other forms as well, such as inflammation of the retinas or lungs. Toxoplasma, like most parasites, carries out its infection in distinct stages of life. Strangely enough, while many tissues can harbor the parasite, it is only capable of reproducing sexually in cats. Cats are carriers of the oocyst- the infective form of Toxoplasma Gondii. Once these oocysts have entered a human, they can differentiate into their next stage of life, the tachyzoite. These cells can invade our own, rapidly divide by means of binary fission, lose our cells, and travel throughout our bodies. As a result of the immune response that this invasion causes, the tachyzoites become dormant, forming cysts called bradyzoites that are commonly found in the brain and skeletal muscle. In immunocompromised patients, such as those with HIV, the infection becomes much more deadly, as without a consistent or strong enough immune response following bradyzoite formation, tachyzoites can escape from the cysts, facilitating further systemic infection and inflammation. In physiologically typical individuals, the infection will generally be taken care of by the immune system, rarely causing any actual illness. In fact, it is estimated that in some areas of the world, more than sixty percent of people have been exposed to the Toxoplasma parasite in their lifetime. HIV patients, on the other hand, often suffer from intense pain, difficulty seeing and breathing, or partial blindness due to toxoplasmosis as a result of an insufficient immune response.

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Talk:Jews/Archive 11

Information about converted Jews
The start of this article is
 * " This article discusses the term as describing an ethnic group; for a consideration of the religion, please refer to Judaism."

So it gives the impression that this article will also cover all people of jewish descent. Regardless of whether they were converted to other religions or not.

So why there isn't any information about jews who converted to other religions in this article.

Zain 21:19, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Such as? Jayjg |  (Talk)  21:22, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Well, the list of Jews further down in the article claims Jews as Jews even when they do not consider themselves Jews (Wiggenstein for one). This is an epistemological problem as well as a problem of politics, not to mention the sheer stigma such an association connotes.  Hamas, the conservative right and Iran all justify the assumption of such an ideology.  And what about Scotty?  There's only so much a simple engineer can do, CAPtehn. The epistemological problem is that Christians (I say this because this is most influential on Western ideas about identity) identify themselves through religious belief.  Though this article claims to separate between Jews and Judaism, for many Jews, no such division exists.  For many Jews, the Jewish identity is inherited along with the religion, with a few converts here and there welcome as a sort of self-validation (see recent NYT article about Japanese American convert to Orthodox Judaism).  So if you take the Jewish point of view, anyone who's mother is Jewish is Jewish.  If you take the religion as a choice point of view, then Jews ARE the same thing as Judaism, though perhaps there is an identifiable ethnic group of Jews separate from Judaism.  Still, even as ethnic identity, it can still be seen as a choice for people to accept their Jewishness (or whiteness, or blackness, etc).
 * The political problem has a simple analogy--think about The Chapelle Show's Race Draft, where every race tries to claim someone as their race. Think how Tiger Woods is so mixed, calls himselve Cablasian, yet generally perceived to be black.  You might think about him being advertising for Buick and the sort of target audience that Buick these days seems to have.  I see exactly the same thing going on with these "lists of prominent Jews". [This and the preceding paragraph appear to have been interspersed, without signature, late February 2005]

 * Certainly Wittgenstein, and his family, continued to be generally perceived in Germany as Jews rather than Germans. He (along with the atheistic Karl Marx and Sigmund Freud) seem to me to be perfect examples of the difference here between ethnicity and religion. In none of these cases do issues of mixed ethnicity arise. -- Jmabel | Talk 23:40, Feb 24, 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure Wittgenstein was Jewish. As I understand it, his father's parents or grandparents were Jewish, and W's mother was a Roman Catholic, though her father, I believe, was Jewish (or her father's father was Jewish; I forget which). Wittgenstein was also baptized a Catholic. Therefore, in terms of his mother's ethnicity, and in terms of the faith he was raised in, he would not be regarded as Jewish. SlimVirgin 01:18, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)

 * Definitely baptised a Catholic, and all that. Perhaps we should remove him from this page, hard to say: he did consider his Jewish descent important, and both German and English society considered it so as well; on the other hand, he was not a Jew by religion, nor (as SlimVirgin points out) by matrilineal descent. This one is right at the margins. I'd be interested in what others have to say: no small number of essays have been written on whether to consider Wittgenstein a Jew. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:13, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)

 * His "Jewishness" is tenuous enough that I think he should not be on this page, but rather listed on the List of Jews page with the various caveats (mother not Jewish, baptized Catholic) given there. Jayjg (talk) 15:36, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I can go with that. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:57, Feb 26, 2005 (UTC)

 * This http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Afghanistan.html
 * Zain 21:41, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Zain, your article doesn't really clear up what you mean: are you referring to forced conversions of Jews to Islam, as the article mentioned happened in Persia, or are you talking about Jews who converted to Islam voluntarily, like the Bani Israel referred to in the Pashtun legend dating back to the 7th century? In any case, you seem to have a persistant belief (across many of your comments) that Judaism is somehow "passed on" via bloodline, rather than it being a historical/national/religious identity.  If there are no longer any real connections to a person's Jewish identity, then they are probably no longer Jewish in any meaningful way.  The Marranos of Spain, for example, like the (possibly) Pashtun, maintain some Jewish traditions after being forced to convert over 500 years ago, but they are not considered Jews.  Similarly, few people would claim Madeline Albright is Jewish.  Still, Jews who converted, if they had some recent Jewish connection, like Benjamin Disraeli, might be meaningfully be considered Jewish, but Disraeli's children would probably not be considered Jewish. Genetic makeup does not act as the determining factor of Jewish identity, see Who is a Jew? for more information. --Goodoldpolonius2 21:54, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Regarding anusim (often coined, pejoratively, "marranos") of Iberian Sephardic origin, there are differing views on their Jewishness. No lesser authority than Rabbi Aaron Soloveitchik writes: "... the people in the Americas who claim to be descendants of the Marranos of Spain and Portugal [...] must be treated like full Jews in every way (counted for a minyan, given aliyot, etc.)." (from a teshubah dated 1 Nisan 5754 (13 March 1994)) The teshubah goes on to describe a modified conversion ritual that is require only in cases when the person in question is to marry a [full] Jew. The determining factors here, as well as in a similar teshubah by Rishon leZion Mordechai Eliyahu, former Sephardic chief Rabbi of Israel (dated 1 Elul 5758(?) (23 August 1998?) - the year is a bit blurry on my digital copy), are the combination of (mostly or entirely) maternal ancestry in combination with the keeping of customs and a sense of identity. -- Olve 05:52, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Well you gave the right example. I read it in the article 'who is jew' it says that
 * " traditional view is that any child born to a Jewish mother is Jewish, whether or not he/she is raised Jewish, or even whether the mother considers herself Jewish. As a result, the grandchildren of Madeline Albright (who was raised Catholic and unaware of her Jewish heritage) will all be Jews according to halakha (Dr. Albright has only daughters), since their mother's mother's mother's mother's mother was a Jew."

So people who converted willfully or forcefully can still be considered Jews. This information belongs somewhere in the article. Zain 22:04, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * It is in the article, in the link to "Who is a Jew". That information used to be directly in the article itself, but the article was too long, so it was moved to a sub-article, as per Wikipedia standard. Jayjg  |  (Talk)  22:09, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Zain, go back to your quote at the beginning. This article refers to Judaism as a nationality or ethnic group, not a religious groups.  Yes, according to some stringent Jewish laws, Albright might be considered Jewish (read the whole article)  - but under any reasonable measure of ethnic identity she is not. Many Russians are descended from Mongols, or from Viking colonizers of the original Rus, that does not make them Mongols or Vikings ethnically.  Besides, as you requested, this material is already mentioned in the article, under "Who is a Jew" which is right in the template. This is really otherwise of very little direct relevance --Goodoldpolonius2 22:11, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

At least we here agree that some will agree that they are jews. Now the only point that is left that does these some ideas have any right in the article.

Let me quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV_tutorial. Section under heading  Word ownership says

A common source of obstinacy in NPOV disputes is the belief that one group "owns" a word and has sole authority to define it:

 * "The word sun is from the science of astronomy. Astronomers are the experts on the sun, and not one of them alive today believes the sun is Helios and his chariot."

In fact, many words have multiple meanings. And it's not just that one person sometimes uses "sun" to refer to the bright ball in the sky and sometimes the yellow circle in a child's drawing. Sometimes it means that different people mean different things when they say the same word.

Ancient Greek ideas about the sun aren't covered by any senses of the word provided in the dictionary. Neither are the traditional ideas of contemporary indigenous people. But in an encyclopedia, ideas that a lot of people believe or once believed deserve not only mention but respectful treatment.

So even if it is considered by some as jew still it has a place on wikipedia in relation to this word.

Zain 22:26, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Zain, the Who is a Jew? article at the top of the template and the article covers the issue of Jewish converts, and actually goes through many different points of view on the subject, so the article easily meets the standard you just proposed.
 * On a related note, I do have to wonder about the general thrust of some of your calculations about Jewish identity, both in this and in other articles (see this discussion for example). You seem to really be pushing for a much expanded definition of Jewish identity, and have implied that you believe that all people of any Jewish descent (and especially Muslims of ancient Jewish descent, see your above reference) should be considered Jews.  This really doesn't fit with any standard definition of Jewish nationality and ethnicity, anymore than everyone is considered African just because we all descend from a common genetic ancestor in Kenya.  I suspect that you have an agenda with this approach, since your post I referenced above includes the following quote from you: "So looking at a 4000 years phenomenon I doubt (the Jews) will have 'pure blood'. So they don't have any more right (if not less) then palestenians on 'Tel Aviv'."*  If you do have an agenda, it would be better to make that clear, so that we can work to incorporate your views in an NPOV fashion, rather than taking a lot of peoples' time to debate straw-man arguments that underlie some other point you want to make.  Also, it would be best if we could keep the constantly NPOV-battled Israeli-Palestinian conflict out of this article as much as possible.  I mentioned this last time you brought up related issues on Jewish populations in Israel, and I worry that this series of articles on Jews will be pulled into that debate.    --Goodoldpolonius2 02:06, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * (*) As a side note, there is no standard of Jewish "pure bloodedness" under any view of Jewish identity -- Judaism is not passed on through the genes or the blood. See here on the tradition of using "Jewish blood" in the definition of the Jew, and the dangers this approach carries.

 * I think Zain's agenda is clear, he has stated it himself on his webpage. He is trying to use "Jewish blood" to prove that "arabs have better claim (as they make majority of 'actual jews') on the israel then jews!" Jayjg  |  (Talk)  03:20, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I waited a lot for response earlier but there was no response so I went out.

Now about my discussion this discussion. If you see it was simply done by assumption, which usually Muslims don't like. I never said that I believe this work. I simply said if it is assumed. If you read that discussion carefully, I never issued a statement which endorses my point of views!. Even if the statement which you copied from my discussion, that also uses the world 'doubt'. Frankly speaking I don't know the statistics. I will like to know if there is any information regarding this.

About the agenda, I am not sure how to put it. I have sympathizes with Palestinian and Arabs. I am myself neither a Palestinian nor an Arab. May be from that 'extended' definition I might be considered a Jew, with a lot of Jewish blood!. If you see my contributions from very early days, they were not at all related to this conflict. I believe the first ever contribution which was to this topic is well known to you. Frankly speaking I even didn't know how to spell Israel or Palestine before that discussion. After that I started to do research among various sources various claims. It appeared to me that there are many possible flaws in Israeli claim to land. (Please note I am not stressing that these flaws are ought be there, they are simply my interpretations). Most of these apparent flaws become evident to me from reading pro-Israeli sources rather then reading pro-Palestinian sources. I don't think it is relevant here even if I have an 'agenda'. What matters is that, as long as I ask for something within the policy of wikipedia, my ideas ought to be considered. Please even if you see my discussion this discussion., I never insisted any where that this material should be placed 'anywhere' in the wikipedia as it is not according to the policy of wikipedia. So even when I believe some thing is probably true in my view, I don't insist putting it in the articles. Unless they are according to the policy. Please these two paragraphs I only wrote to clear your mind about my actions. This was not required in the context of this discussion. As suspicions of 'agenda' have nothing to do with what material needs to be mentioned in the article.

Now to the original issue. I think following two points are agreed and are NPOV.

Only thing which remains is that how to incorporate this in the article. So please make a positive approach and give this 'minor' opinion respectful treatment.
 * 1) Some (may be very minor) people do consider that if any body is of Jewish descend he/she must be considered as Jew.
 * 2) If some thing is interpreted differently by some (may be minor may be they don't exist now), it deserves a respectful treatment. (as per wikipedia policy which I referenced earlier)

Zain 12:13, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * The issue is treated in the article. Jews, like all peoples, define who they are and who they are not.  They have done so, and these definitions are well explained in the Who is a Jew article, which is linked to from here. Jayjg  |  (Talk)  13:28, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * You might be right. but there are two problems with it
 * Many Jews them self consider converted Jews as Jews.
 * Wikipedia Policy doesn't support the standard of 'Self identification' in 'word ownership'.

 * Zain 13:36, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Zain, two main points that should end the argument: And two additional points to clarify:
 * The article on who is a Jew mentions the conditions under which some Jews consider converted Jews to be Jewish. It actually talks about this a lot, in detail, under many traditions of Jewish thouht.
 * The article on who is a Jew mentions other ways of determining Jewish identity (See the end), including genetic approaches, but notes that such determinations have not be considered valid within the Jewish community, and, in fact, have often been tools of people with anti-Jewish agendas
 * In fact, self-identification is a key feature of any group, as groups do make the rules of membership. I could declare that I am Zoastrian, my friends could agree, and I even may have some Zoastrian blood, but I would not be accepted by Zoastrians as one of them.  It would therefore be silly to write in an article that "some people think GoodOldPolonius is Zoastrian," since there is no weight behind that view.  This is not ownership of words, this is about groups setting rules for entry.  Declaring something does not make it so -- if you said you were a doctor, that does not make you a doctor.
 * Before you push your arguments further, there are massive amounts of scholarly research on identity that you should be familiar with, at least in passing. Forget religion and culture, for a moment, even national identity is a constructed norm forced by group identity. Nations such as Pakistan emerged only recently, but there was almost immediately a clear concept of what it is to be Pakistani. This is a subject of much interest to political theorists and sociologists, and though this is not directly related to Judaism, you might want to look at the Nationalism Project
 * And, most importantly, you should realize that when people outside of a group attempt to impose definitions on a group, they almost always do it for the purposes of exerting control. Some people say that there is no such group as Palestinians, but this is just an attempt to use language in a way to change reality, of course there are Palestinians, even if the specific sense of national identity among Palestinians is recent in origin.  Some people might similarly say that "the modern Jews are not the real Jewish people," but this is similar nonsense that flies in the face of several thousand years of continuous Jewish history, and is an attempt to use language and catagories to impose a reality that is not the case.  Your statements lead me to believe that  you are trying to change or modify the nature of Jewish identity by playing definitional games, when there is a clear concept of Jewish ethnic nationhood that clearly exists.  This argument might be convincing to you, but is ultimately destructive and arrives at reducto-ad-absurdum, just as arguments that Palestinians are actually Jordanians are only used to deligitimize the Palestinians.  That is why your agenda is relevant, and why you should be careful that you are really being NPOV, and not just trying to enact your agenda with many small claims   --Goodoldpolonius2 16:47, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Converted Jews are considered as jews by some jews
Well it is very good that you gave example of Pakistan. Behari who were left in 'East Pakistan' are not considered as Pakistani by Pakistan, but they are considered Pakistani by Bangladesh!. It is an example where people outside the group impose the definition which is very accepted by a lot of people except the group itself.

Anyhow this is not relevant here because some jews consider people of jewish descend as jews even if they convert. And even if very few people believe in some thing wikipedia policy says it is worth respectful treatment. I am also not saying that this article should mention that who is Jew or who is not Jew. Only that people who might be considered as jew in 'who is jew' article, need some mentioning here. For example as history/stats of non-convert jews are given, converted jews might also be given some reasonable treatment.

May be you are taking me wrong. I am not asking for some major change in the article. I am just asking for some respectful mentioning of information about converted Jews too. Because this article does not say that it excludes converted-jews. By 'respectful treatment' I don't mean multi-paragraph detail but minor and respectful treatment.

Zain 18:43, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Converts to Judaism are discussed in Ger tzedek. Jayjg |  (Talk)  20:51, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * No, I think Zain is talking specifically about converts from Judaism.
 * Zain, the article does talk about this, quite a few places. We mention several secular Jews (e.g. Marx, Freud) and at least one Christian convert (Disraeli). All of these are excellent examples of people who unequivocally considered themelves (and were/are generally considered by other Jews) as Jews in the ethnic, but not the religious, sense.
 * Nationality and ethnicity are always tricky concepts. There is certainly a place in Wikipedia for an extensive coverage of these subtleties, but the article on one particular ethnic group is almost certainly not the place to do it. Jewish ethnicity is probably slightly better defined than most (in specific focus on matrilineality), but the rest of these issues apply almost as much to any ethnicity. At some point, if a person is a few generations removed from the Jewish community and makes no active effort to claim to be a Jew, they tend to drift out of the self-defined community. If the continuity is clear and someone chooses to reassert that identity (as a number of Marranos have done in recent years), they are usually accepted without much difficulty. When it is more like millennia, it gets trickier, partly because there is so unlikely to be any continuous tradition. Sometimes entire groups (such as the Ethiopian Jews) have been generally recognized as genuine Jews even at that distance in time, but it is rare. Little of this has any agreed-upon formality. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:16, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks Jmabel to understand my position. Some people here misinterpretting that I want the whole article upside down or some thing like this. I don't intend this.

Following are our agreements (me and others who are on this article)

 * 1) For most scenarios the Jews statistics/history given here is acceptable by all. Definition of Jew might be disagreed by some jews.
 * 2) Major difference among the definitions is whether to use religion or ethnicity or some mix.
 * 3) This major difference is cleared by one of the starting statements in the article.

Now following are the agreements which are there but are accepted rather reluctantly.

 * 1) Some (may be very very few) Jews consider people of Jewish descend as Jews regardless of whether they are aware of it or accept it.
 * 2) If some small (but visible) minority has some different opinion wikipedia policy requires to give it a respectful treatment.

Now I am talking about jews who might not consider them self jew or might not even know that they are of jewish descend. But they are considered by some jews as jews. I am not saying that they should be given a lot of coverage in this article as this view is considered by very minor segment.

What I am saying is this, as this article clears that this article is about jews, either who are jewish by descend or by religion. Similar clarification should be done about jews who are converted. That this article is not about those Jews who are converted and might be considered Jews by very small minority. (not this exact statement but any statement which you might chose with similar meaning).

Zain 22:52, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Well put, Jmabel, I tried to say the same thing as well at the begining of the discussion. Zain, I think there is some confusion over the idea of respectful treatment.  Minority opinions should be treated with respect, but they do not all need to be acknowledged as as valid as any other approach - otherwise every encyclopedia article would simply start off with a long list of "But some very small minority thinks..." statements.  Now, the good thing about the Jew article from your perspective is that it actually includes a long list of these sorts of statements about the debate who is a Jew, in the Who is a Jew? article.  So the problem is solved.  There is only need to create disambiguation ("This article is not about those Jews who converted...") if you really believe people will be confused. I would ask that you provide some sources that state that a common conception of Jewish ethnic identity would include, say, the Pashtun, before we consider whether such a disambuguation is needed -- do any Pashtun sources declare themselves Jews?  Show that there is a problem before we decide how to fix it. --Goodoldpolonius2 23:11, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I think discussion is going overly hot. well problem is not how many pushtun think they are jews. problem is that how many jews think pushtuns are jews. These minorities were enough to be given a full paragraph in 'who is jew' article So they are worth a line here. I think we should stop posting. think in cool mind and then decide what should be done.

Zain 23:17, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Zain, sorry if you are hot - I am not, and I don't think Jmabel is - people are spending a lot of time trying to help you answer this question, you are not being blown off in any sense. As for your point, there are a huge number of important points about Jews that are not in the main article, but that are accessible through the template.  In fact, there is no mention of any of the much larger issues around Jewish identity (the Israeli Law of Return, Orthodox vs. Reform conceptions, Jewish identity in intermarriage); these are all relegated to the subarticle, some without so much as a sentence in the main article.  There seems to be no compelling reason why we need to include this particular point, which, as you said, is a "very small minority" opinion, in the main article, when it is discussed in a whole article on Jewish identity.  If you continue to insist, let us know what sentence you would like and where you would like it --Goodoldpolonius2 23:23, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I am not asking that in this article we should mention 'who is jew' and 'who is not jew' I said it earlier too. Only thing that I am asking that if that 'minor' definition is accepted. The statistics of population and other will change substantially. Other discussions don't impact the statistics and history that much. But this assumption makes a considerable impact. so the article should clear that it doesn't consider such 'minor' assumptions.

Please see we here are not disagreeing on facts or figures. Only disagreement is that whether that 'minor' claim has its place. Wikipedia policy is clear. It should have some place. Whether it is Paragraph/Sentence/Footnote or any other. Statistics and history in result of that opinion have their place. may be not in this article. But they do have their place. Problem is that some people might view that those statistics are part of this article. Because they see only descend as the definition of jew.

That minor claim has some place on wikipedia that is agreed. Now where is that place is only problem.

Zain

As far as how many [of the people who are generally accepted as] Jews consider Pashtuns Jews, the answer is "almost none". Ditto for quite a few Gentile nations in the Caucasus who also have traditions claiming descent from the lost tribes. Is is possible that there is some common ancestry 2000+ years ago? Yes, though far from proven. But by that standard, the English are Germans, all Slavs are one nation, and --taking it one step further -- all of us are African, anyway. As far as I know, we don't take up these matters in any detail in the articles on any ethnicity. Like all other ethnicities, being Jewish is largely (but not exclusively) a combination of self-identification and acceptance by the group. Like a few other ethnicities, Jews have some general (but not universal) agreement on how the ethnicity is defined. Speaking of the Pashtun, because their definition is almost entirely patrilineal, even granting the "lost tribe" premise and then using a strict Halakhic accounting that says the only way you cease to be a Jew is excommunication, there would be no reason to think that any particular Pushtun traced back matrilineally to the lost tribes. But this is getting into hairsplitting. No, almost no Jews consider the Pashtuns to be Jews. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:02, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

People who might be considered jews by some jews
Let me quote my friend Goodoldpolonius2 here
 * "'Yes, according to some stringent Jewish laws, Albright might be considered Jewish'"

So why it won't apply on pushtuns? http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Afghanistan.html Second it is not only about pushtuns. There actual number is unknown. They might now call them self arabs etc etc. Actually I was intrested in finding statistics but I was not able to find authentic statistics, only bits and pieces of information. So I came back to this article. And my initial post was not to include it but was why it is not included. As u can see from this discussion. That mentioning other is not matter of right or wrong. it is matter that how many jews consider how many converted jews as jews. And where should we mention it.

Zain 00:13, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * "So why it won't apply on pushtuns?" Because it is the difference between 2 generations with clear matrilineal descent and 2000 years with no such record. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:44, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

 * Zain, ethnicity is a combination of group acceptance and self-definition. As far as group acceptance, quite logically Jews do not define groups with no clear connection to Judiasm, no immediate Jewish ancestry, and no Jewish belief system Jewish. On the side of self-identification, I would imagine that almost every, if not every, Pashtun (or Muslim Arab, or whatever) would reject the idea that they are currently Jews.  Thus, I present The Test:
 * To make an argument that would convince people here that this is a valid minority view, I would ask you to demonstrate that (1) Some significant number of Jews state that the Pashtun (or whatever group) are Jewish (not of Jewish descent, but actually Jewish) and (2) Some significant number of Pashtuns (or whatever group) believe they are Jewish. Sound good? --Goodoldpolonius2 02:21, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Well let me give you some interesting information. The most accepted descent among pushtons is Jewish Descent! I know it even personally. So I have reached some what at the bottom of the problem. So here are some agreed information.

 * 1) Some jews and non-jews including some pushtoons believe that they are of jewish descent.
 * 2) There are other people of jewish descent in addition to pushtoons who are no longer considered as jews by most of the jews. (Alberite and many others)
 * 3) Some jews think that descent, whether it is immediate or distant, is enough to consider some body a jew.
 * 4) If some thing is considered by a minor (even if the claimers no longer exist) is worth a respectful treatment.
 * 5) Many of the pushtoon/alberite ancestors considered their future generations as jews!

The problem I have seen that the 'intersection set' between people who consider only descent (whether immediate or far) as condition of jew. And the people who consider pushtoon as descended of jews, is a negligible set.

Do you agree this is the point put but you? (which I explained in above paragraph)

This result in following problems. Is this 'negligible' 'intersection set' or 'common set' is worth any mention?

But following points were generally ignored by the responses I received.

 * 1) What about other converted jews whose descend has little doubts like Alberite.
 * 2) What about the non-Existing people who viewed their future generations as jews.

Zain 11:48, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Do you have a source in which Pashtuns claim to be Jews? Jayjg |  (Talk)  14:23, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Yeah, its very interesting that they think they might be descended from Jews. According to the latest studies, it seems that there are also genetic links between Jews and Palestinians (but not to other neighboring Arabs) and between Jews and Kurds.  This is interesting, but does not make these people Jews, nor does it make Jews Kurdish, or even make these significant facts.  Again, take a look at the test -- do any Jews claim that the Pashtun (or any of these other groups), are actually Jews?  Do any of these groups consider themselves Jews? Saying that they have common ancestry is not the same thing as saying that they are Jews, remember, this is about identity-- show me a source that says any of these things explicitly.  It is your burden to prove that this is not a "negligible set;" no more original research.
 * As to your "ignored points," they were not ignored at all, both jmabel and myself gave you direct responses.  Albright is mentioned specifically in the Who is a Jew article, and the articles on Jews further mention Disraeli and others.  As I pointed out, there is no discussion anywhere in the main article about who is a Jew, even the wider views on the subject, it is all relegated to the subarticle, so that is the proper place for it.  And I do not know what "non-Existing people who viewed their future generations as Jewish" means.  Identity is a current thing, you ultimately have no control over your future generations (much to the dismay of many parents and grandparents)Goodoldpolonius2 15:02, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Zain, there are a lot of groups who claim or may have some Jewish ancestry, but 1) they are too numerous to include in this general article, and 2) merely having "some" ancestry doesn't necessarily classify a whole group as "Jews". Meanwhile, the information you brought up is very interesting, and you asked where it should be mentioned.  It is somewhat addressed already in the Pashtun article.  That's probably the best place to describe the theory in detail.  --MPerel 17:53, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

 * One additional note, if the link you gave was actually implying the Pashtun are considered Jews, it would not have said at the end of the article that there are only two known Jews in Afghanistan today, Zebulon Simentov and Isaac Levy. --MPerel 18:56, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

MPerel You joined discussion a little late if you see my earlier posts. I tried to clear my self that I don't want any of pushtuns or alberite in this article. Only thing which I want that this article should tell they are not included. Simple. because as u pointed out they are very minor claims (both in the sense of ancestry and the claim that only ancestory is enought to call some body jew as stated in 'who is jew' article) In addition they are two numerous and difficult to confirm. I agree these are minor claims. Only condition when they should be mentioned is when this article doesn't clearify that this minor opinion is excluded in this article.

 * Are you saying you would like a line in the article that says something like this: While there are numerous claims of Jewish ancestry by or about various ethnic groups (e.g., Pushtun, Alberite), they are not addressed in this article? --MPerel 04:07, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

 * MPerel. I think he means Madeline Albright, not a group called the Alberites.  Also, Zain hasn't shown any sources that any of these groups actually claim to be Jews, or that anyone believes they are Jews.  Until he does, it doesn't seem to be a real valid point.  Besides, the right place for any such speculation is the article about Jewish ancestry, Who is a Jew?, which already covers Madeline Albright.  --Goodoldpolonius2 04:24, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * LOL! ah, I figured maybe Alberites were an ethnic group I didn't know about! Anyway, I agree, the material is probably more appropriate in the Who is a Jew? article.  What do you think Zain?

 * Jmabel made some modifications to Who is a Jew? that address some of these issues about Jewish identity, and the fact that the Jewish ethnicity/nationhood is more than just genetic descent. I think that this matter has been successfully addressed. --Goodoldpolonius2 16:57, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

How about Albright
In simple. Should I add Albright in famous jews section? Zain 20:24, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Certainly not. We already list the most famous Jewish U.S. Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, and he is much more clearly Jewish than Albright. To the best of my knowledge, everyone on the list now unambiguously had significant ties to Jewish ethnicity (and, in some cases, religion). None of these people simply incidentally had Jewish ancestry. All of these people either had deeply Jewish roots or had important impacts on the Jewish community or on public perception of the Jewish community; in most cases, all of these apply. None of these apply to Albright. Or to John Kerry, not matrilineally descended, but half Jewish by ancestry, which means that if he wanted to he could claim Israeli citizenship under the Law of Return.
 * We had a go-round a while back about adding Jesus to the list. I still think he belongs there (profoundly Jewish upbringing, profound effect on public perception of Jewry), but I let the matter drop when it was clear there was no consensus to add him, and suggest you do the same over the much less significant matter of Ms. Albright. -- Jmabel | Talk 20:58, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)
 * There seem to be mixed messages here. AFAIK Albright is completely Jewish by Jewish law, having unbroken matrilineal descent, even though she didn't know she was Jewish. But how do you eliminate her and include Kerry? Kerry has no matrilineal descent at all in Judaism, and didn't know he had any "Jewish blood" at all until he was well into adulthood. It seems he only became a "Jew of Convenience" in some people's eyes when it enhanced his political fortunes. Just to put in my 2c on Jesus, he is so Jewish it is ridiculous not to include him, and it would be a counter to the many beliefs of many Christians who were brought up believing Jesus wasn't, or that he had somehow "converted" to Christianity—Jesus didn't even found the religion, his followers did. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 04:49, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Let me clarify: Albright, unlike Kerry, is a Jew under halakha. Albright, like Kerry, would be eligible for Israeli citizenship if either wanted it. And Albright, like Kerry, would be an inappropriate inclusion in this article, for the reasons given above. And I agree wiht you on Jesus, but others objected to the inclusion in short list of famous Jews in this article, and I don't really care enough to fight over it. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:26, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
 * Jesus is iffy because he's possibly mythical; the list sticks to 12th century Jews and later, who are well attested. Jayjg |  (Talk)  20:35, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Although...even if he's mythical, he's still a quite famous Jew : ) Anyway, this list is just a random sampling; I'm not sure why any have to be listed here at all, why not just reference the bigger list at List of Jews.  --MPerel 20:44, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
 * Moses and David and Solomon are pretty famous too, I don't see them in the article. Jayjg |  (Talk)  06:11, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

And this is not all. The link to 'main article' in famous jews, refers to List of Jews which includes Albright! This article should clearly mention that, people who might have jewish descent but are affiliated with religions other then judism, are not discussed in this article or this article may get POV banner. Zain 20:16, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * POV banner? Seriously? Zain, people have spent a lot of time answering your questions and trying to explain the reasoning behind Jewish ethnicity being related to more than blood and descent.  The only reason I see you continuing to push this point so hard is because you really want to link non-Jewish Jews to your theory that all Middle Easterners are related to the Jews, and therefore Jewish by matrilinial descent, and therefore all have equal claim to Israel.  You are welcome to your opinions, but I don't think any credible source supports this approach to ethnicity, and really would like to avoid having this article politicized as part of the Middle Eastern debate.  Besides, "non-Jewish Jews" are discussed, in the article Who is a Jew?, so your objection doesn't even make sense - note that the main article does not even talk about any definition of Jewishness, it is all relegated to the Who is a Jew? article. Goodoldpolonius2 00:10, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I can't understand why my 'good faith' is again and again rejected here. I didn't even made a single edit! For further clarification please note that

 * 1) I have not asked for mentioning pushtoons.
 * 2) Even on this talk page. I have not even mentioned any relation between Palestinian or Jews.
 * 3) In any place else where I mentioned. I added that it is my very personal theory and I don't think that it deserves any place in any article of wikipedia.

I have only asked that this article should mention that, these people are not listed in this article and why (mary, christ etc). Zain 20:39, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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CHFI-FM

CHFI-FM (98.1 MHz) is a commercial radio station in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Owned and operated by Rogers Radio, a division of Rogers Sports & Media, it broadcasts an adult contemporary format, switching to Christmas music for part of November and December. The studios are in the Rogers Building on the northwest corner of Bloor and Jarvis Streets in Downtown Toronto. CHFI is often the most listened-to commercial radio station in Greater Toronto, according to the Numeris ratings.

CHFI-FM has an effective radiated power (ERP) of 44,000 watts. The transmitter is atop the CN Tower.

Beautiful music
The station first signed on the air on February 1, 1957. It was initially owned by CHFI-FM, Ltd. CHFI was the first commercial FM outlet in Toronto to provide its own distinct programming rather than simulcasting an AM station. The call sign chosen to represent the words "Canada HiFI" or "high fidelity", providing a higher quality sound than on AM radio. CHFI also initially provided a special Muzak-like background audio service, playing soft instrumental music for offices and retail outlets in the city.

The station was acquired in 1960 by Aldred-Rogers Broadcasting, a forerunner to Rogers Radio. In 1962, an AM counterpart, CHFI (1540 AM) was added, which originally simulcast CHFI-FM's programming.

CHFI-FM pioneered the "beautiful music" format in Canada. The main programming heard from dawn until midnight was traditional easy listening fare, mostly instrumental cover versions of popular hits, as well as Broadway and Hollywood show tunes.

In 1972, CHFI's AM sister station, by this point under the CFTR call letters, abandoned the beautiful music simulcast of CHFI-FM and adopted a Top 40 format.

Popular programs
Music director Michael Compeau created a number of the station's much-imitated programs. The most famous was the popular and long running Candlelight and Wine heard evenings from 6 to 11 p.m. The program, hosted by Don Parrish, mixed soothing instrumentals, soft vocals and occasional light classical pieces in "pop" arrangements. The program spun off a series of best-selling record albums, many of which are now highly prized collectors' items. Compeau also created the popular Classics 'til Dawn, an overnight program of popular classical music. (In 1984, Compeau would become program director of classical station CFMX-FM and use this same format for its overnight program.) Another of Compeau's innovations was Front Row Centre, heard Sunday afternoons at 2 p.m. This one-hour program featured full original cast recordings of popular Broadway musicals, with host Don Parish explaining the story between songs.

In the 1970s, Todd Russell began hosting a late evening program called Reminiscing featuring modern recordings of popular songs from the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s and 1950s. In 1973, Compeau decided to add some spice to the program by sprinkling in a few original period recordings. Since very few had been reissued on LP at this time, a call went out to collectors who loaned their original 78-rpm records to the radio station. The records were cleaned, repaired and brushed with distilled water before being transcribed to tape. Dubbed the "new library of old 78's", these antique rarities were showcased each weeknight. (In 1974, host Todd Russell died and was replaced by Sandy Hoyt.) CHFI soon amassed a collection of over 3,500 period recordings and the reminiscing program became one of the station's biggest successes. As time went on, the modern recordings were phased out and the program featured mainly the period recordings.

Adult contemporary
By the mid-1980s, the audience for CHFI and other beautiful music stations was beginning to age, while advertisers usually seek younger listeners. This led to the elimination of the specialty programs coupled with more vocals in the playlist. Eventually, CHFI eliminated nearly all instrumental music, and instituted a soft adult contemporary format. The transition worked, making CHFI one of the longest-running English-language adult contemporary stations in Canada.

In December 1987, Don Daynard became CHFI's new morning show host, a position he would hold until his retirement on December 10, 1999. Erin Davis joined the morning show in September 1988, with "Don and Erin" becoming one of Toronto's most prominent morning shows through the 1990s. Bob Magee took over Daynard's position on December 13, 1999.

A new logo was unveiled in 2000, when Rogers rebranded the station from CHFI FM98 and the "Toronto's Perfect Music Mix" slogan, to 98.1 CHFI, moving away from soft adult contemporary to mainstream AC under the "Toronto's Soft Rock" slogan.

In June 2003, CHFI, competing closely with rival adult contemporary station CJEZ, revamped their morning show to attract younger listeners. Firing Erin Davis and moving Bob Magee to afternoons, the station named Mad Dog and Billie, later known as "Jay and Billie", as the morning team, beginning June 23. Jay and Billie hosted mornings on co-owned Toronto station CISS-FM before it flipped to adult hits earlier that month. In addition, the station rebranded as 98.1 CHFI (pronounced, "ninety-eight-one CHFI") instead, and unveiled the "Today's Lite Music" slogan.

Bringing Jay and Billie on for mornings backfired on CHFI, as the station's ratings declined. In September 2004, Erin Davis was hired by CJEZ as a fill-in co-host, working alongside Mike Cooper. This brought CJEZ's ratings up dramatically, beating CHFI in several target audience demographics. In June 2005, CHFI management fired Jay and Billie, rehired Davis for mornings (who returned on September 6), and also hired Mike Cooper as her co-host on October 26 after his contract with CJEZ expired. At the same time, the station returned to using the point on the station's ID, returned to its soft AC format, and switched its slogan to "Toronto's Lite Favourites." This turned around CHFI's popularity, as the station reclaimed the top spot in the Toronto ratings, while CJEZ's ratings fell.

In 2009, CHFI returned to mainstream AC, but retained the "Toronto's Lite Favourites" slogan and added the decimal point back in the station identification. In addition, newer jingles were unveiled, along with an opening bumper for newer music. As well, some upbeat, rhythmic material was also added, while softer artists such as Air Supply were largely dropped from the station's playlist. On December 26, 2009, long-time competitor CJEZ switched from an adult contemporary format to an adult hits format as CHBM-FM, leaving CHFI as the only adult contemporary station in Toronto.

In late 2015, Mike Cooper announced his retirement, though would continue to host the classic hits-formatted "Coop's Classics" on Saturday nights. Darren B. Lamb, formerly with CHUM-FM, joined CHFI as Davis' co-host in February 2016. On November 9, 2016, Erin Davis announced she would be retiring from CHFI on December 15, and would be moving to British Columbia to be closer to her family. Lamb continued to host mornings, along with new co-host Maureen Holloway. On October 1, 2021, Maureen Holloway announced she would be leaving the station, with Lamb having had his last appearance earlier in the year (Lamb has since retired). The following week, Tracy Moore from co-owned television station CITY-TV began hosting the show on a temporary basis. On November 29, CHFI announced that Pooja Handa and Gurdeep Ahluwalia, formerly of CP24, would begin hosting mornings on January 4, 2022.

In January 2024, several months after joining Rogers as co-host of Breakfast Television on Citytv, Meredith Shaw launched the Sunday morning program The Feel Good Brunch, which will also air on other adult contemporary radio stations owned by Rogers across Canada. In March, it was announced that former MuchMusic VJ Rick Campanelli was joining the station as a weekday afternoon host.

Rebroadcasters
CHFI-FM can also be heard on these low-power transmitters:

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