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User talk:Helpinghands

Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks.

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I was not experimenting. Those are some requests I would like to make. --Helpinghands 15:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah, I think I see where the problem lies! The numbers you put next to those articles - those are Google counts, right? The rest of what's on that page is a list of the missing articles that are most linked to from within Wikipedia. I thought that you were deliberately putting unrealistically big numbers next to articles.

 * OK, so the page that you need is actually Requested articles. From there, you can link through to the subpages for different subjects and add your requests under the appropriate heading. Sorry for the confusion - we get a lot of people coming to Wikipedia who just want to vandalise pages or otherwise add nonsense - obviously you're not one of those.

 * Anything you're not sure about, drop me a line on my talk page. Oh, and to hopefully get off on a slightly better footing than before, Welcome to Wikipedia! --OpenToppedBus - Talk 16:18, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

Stop with the new articles
Hi there Helpinghands, I'm glad you want to contribute to Wikipedia, but please do not create a new article unless you are going to put some copy in it. You are wasting the time of other Wikipedia editors with your articles such as "Ghost sightings" and "Last name Mooney". Eliot 18:25, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Portal talk:Trains/Trains news

Updating the news
There are a few things to consider when updating the "In the news" section of the Portal:Trains:
 * Remember that we are writing for an international audience, so try not to center all the train news around one country. This may be difficult on some days, but there's always something going on around the world.
 * Include a link to the original news item. List only the URL in single brackets, with the source name in parentheses.  If there are multiple pages with stories about the news item, list them all.  A full citation can be included within .. tags to simplify the copy/paste to the archives.
 * Include links to Wikipedia articles. Avoid red links because this is a Featured portal.  However, check the links that you do create to ensure that they are pointing at the appropriate articles and not at disambiguation pages or redirects.
 * Limit the number of news items to six. When we get more than six items in this section, its size becomes rather disproportionate with the other sections on the page.  The column that this section is in is narrower than the other column, so its length is only magnified.
 * Include at least one free image on every news item; fair use images are not allowed in the Portal namespace. Generally, one image is enough, but if the news item is about a merger between two entities or a connection between two countries, it may be appropriate to show two images.  To add an image, use one of the image templates described below.  Image selection priority should be as follows:
 * An image of the event that occurred.
 * An image representative of the event.
 * The flag of the region where the event occurred.
 * List news events in date descending order. The most current event should be listed first, the least current last.  New items can be added in positions other than first as long as they are listed in the proper date order.
 * Copy the news items (with a complete reference citation) to the appropriate YEAR in rail transport page. Today is July 29, 2024, the current month's events page is July 2024 in rail transport, the current year's events page is 2024 in rail transport.
 * (optional) Copy a one-sentence version of the event to the appropriate anniversary page. Today's anniversary page is Portal:Trains/Anniversaries/July 29; if there are more than four events, copy the event to the additional archive at Portal:Trains/Anniversaries/July 29/More.

Image templates
There are a few templates that are used on this page to make the images at the right: See the appropriate talk pages on each of these templates for more details on their usage.
 * (talk) - Displays a single image with an optional border.
 * (talk) - Displays two images
 * (talk) - Displays a single image with an optional border and also displays the Wikinews logo and link to the relevant article there
 * (talk) - Displays a flag

= Newsroom = If you are unsure about the wording on a news item, or whether it should be included at all, list it here. Other editors will review the item and add it as appropriate.

Headlines to add

 * See also: Wikinews Portal:Transport

These are news items that should be added to the news column as space allows

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Revulsion (Star Trek: Voyager)

"Revulsion" is the 73rd episode of Star Trek: Voyager, the fifth episode of the fourth season. This is focused on an EMH (Emergency Medical Hologram; The Doctor)-like hologram on another ship, which is dealt with mostly by the Doctor and B'Elanna. In addition, sub-plots run their course on Voyager with other characters. Guest star Leland Orser plays the hologram, Dejaren on a spaceship that is encountered by Voyager. Leland Orser had also played a character on Deep Space Nine.

The episode, in retrospect, was noted for a possible allusion to male sexual abuse via the hologram. In contrast to historical examples in Trek history, like Bajoran comfort women, the character of Dejaren has been compared to Gigolo Joe from Spielberg's 2001 film A.I. However, this may be too broad an interpretation of the episode noting a more basic horror film element.

The episode is noted as paying homage to the tradition of "trashy science fiction horror" vibe in the Star Trek universe as portrayed by episodes like "Phage", "Cathexis", "Faces", "Projections", "Persistence of Vision", "Cold Fire", "Prototype", "Meld", "The Thaw", "Macrocosm", "Alter Ego", "Coda", "Darkling", "Phantasms", "Dark Page", "Sub Rosa", "Masks", "Eye of the Beholder" or "Genesis". Star Trek has a history of dabbling in horror such as the technological failure of the transporter in Star Trek: The Motion Picture when its malfunction kills two members of the crew.

Plot
The crew is sitting in the mess hall for a celebration in honor of Tuvok, who is promoted to lieutenant commander. After the party Tom Paris catches up with B'Elanna Torres. The two haven't talked since the incident with the warp core three days before, and Tom decides to make a move. B'Elanna confirms that she meant what she said when she confessed her love for him, and Tom accepts this with a kiss.

Shortly after the party ends Voyager receives a distress call, sent by Dejaren — a hologram alone aboard a ship. His six flesh-and-blood crewmates have been killed and he requests assistance. The Doctor is eager to meet a fellow hologram and he and B'Elanna take off in a shuttle to meet the disabled ship. When they beam on board, all is quiet. Dejaren stalks them for a few moments while they try to establish what is wrong with the ship. When he comes face-to-face with the away team, he is nervous, suspicious, and distraught. Dejaren introduces himself as an "isomorph." He says his crew suddenly died of a virus and he doesn't know what to do next. B'Elanna gets to work trying to stabilize his matrix so he can stay visible.

Meanwhile back on Voyager Harry Kim has been assigned to work with Seven of Nine. She correctly notes that he seems "apprehensive" at the prospect. Despite his wariness of her frightening Borg behavior, he seems to be developing a bit of a crush on her, and he finds working closely with her unsettling. They manage to get their work done, but they are interrupted when Seven cuts her hand on a piece of equipment. Tom Paris, who has recently been recruited as the Doctor's new assistant, mends the cut in sickbay. He notices that Harry is growing fond of her, and advises him to keep his distance.

B'Elanna has some trouble with Dejaren, who is emotionally labile and unpredictable. One minute he giggles at her need to sustain herself by consuming food ("you nibble like a fish!"), and the next he unleashes an angry tirade about the disgust he feels toward "organics." B'Elanna excuses herself and catches up with the Doctor, insisting that they leave the ship and the disturbing hologram behind. The Doctor brushes her off, suggesting she be more patient with Dejaren, who is simply lonely and lacking in appropriate communication skills. B'Elanna doesn't buy it, and heads off to locate the hologram's main control center.

As B'Elanna explores other decks of the ship, Dejaren accosts the Doctor and pours out his feelings. He has felt like a slave to the organics, who are weak and unsanitary and require ridiculous amounts of maintenance and hygiene just to stay functional. He has grown to hate them and is glad he has the ship to himself. He begs the Doctor to come with him and teach him how to use the ship and be free of organics forever. The Doctor starts to realize why B'Elanna is uncomfortable around this angst-ridden isomorph.

B'Elanna finds the matrix controls. She also finds the bodies of the crew, who were not killed by a virus. They were violently murdered — by Dejaren himself. Before she can shut down the homicidal hologram he appears behind her and grabs her. He thrusts his hand into her body and grips her heart.

Back on Voyager Harry is trying to get closer to Seven. He asks her out to the holodeck. She has textbook knowledge of human behavior and immediately understands that he is attempting to spark romantic interaction between them. Seven, who believes romance is irrelevant, suggests they proceed directly to copulation, and directs him to remove his clothes. Thoroughly unnerved, the embarrassed Harry retreats.

While B'Elanna's Klingon physiological backups are keeping her alive despite Dejaren having perforated one of the ventricles of her heart, she is still in need of Voyager's sickbay. She and the Doctor try to disable the crazed isomorph. He makes a grab for the Doctor's mobile emitter, but B'Elanna manages to jolt him with a high-voltage cable, which destabilizes his matrix for good. They hurry off the ship. Safely back in Voyager's sickbay, the Doctor patches up B'Elanna.

Continuity
Paris comments to Torres that is was only three days since the latter said "I love you" to the former (in "Day of Honor" two episodes before this one), even though the previous episode "Nemesis" aired in between. The production code for "Nemesis" (stardate 51082.4) was 40840-171, directly after 40840-170 for "The Gift" (stardate 51008). The 40840-172 production code for "Day of Honor" shows that it was supposed to air after "Nemesis" (stardate "unknown"), directly before "Revulsion" which had the production code 40840-173 (stardate 51186.2).

Cast commentary
Actress Jeri Ryan who plays Seven of Nine, said that "Revulsion" was one of her favorite episodes along with "The Raven", "Hunters", "Prey", and the two-part "The Killing Game".

Releases
This episode was released on VHS, paired "The Raven".

In 2017, the complete Star Trek: Voyager television series was released in a DVD box set with special features.

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Referent

A referent is a person or thing to which a name – a linguistic expression or other symbol – refers. For example, in the sentence Mary saw me, the referent of the word Mary is the particular person called Mary who is being spoken of, while the referent of the word me is the person uttering the sentence.

Two expressions which have the same referent are said to be co-referential. In the sentence John had his dog with him, for instance, the noun John and the pronoun him are co-referential, since they both refer to the same person (John).

Etymology and meanings
The word referent may be diachronically considered to derive from the Latin referentem, the present participle (in accusative form) of the verb referre ("carry back", see also etymology of refer(ence)); or synchronically analyzable as the addition of the suffix -ent to the verb refer on the model of other English words having that suffix. It is defined in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary as "one that refers or is referred to ; especially: the thing that a symbol (as a word or sign) stands for."

The earliest meaning of referent recorded in the Oxford English Dictionary is "one who is referred to or consulted", dating from 1844. A subsequent meaning is "a word referring to another"; the OED gives only one citation for this use, dating from 1899 (which speaks of "referent words or referents" that express a relation). The next meaning, which appears to stand in opposition to the previous meaning, as well as to the meaning implied by the etymology, is nonetheless the one which has gained currency: "that to which something [particularly a word or expression] has reference". This sense is first recorded in Ogden and Richards' The Meaning of Meaning (1923; see further below); the OED also lists numerous subsequent examples of that usage.

In logic, the word referent is sometimes used to denote one of the two objects participating in a relation, the other being called the relatum.

In semantics and philosophy
In fields such as semantics, semiotics, and the theory of reference, a distinction is made between a referent and a reference. Reference is a relationship in which a symbol or sign (a word, for example) signifies something; the referent is the thing signified. The referent may be an actual person or object, or may be something more abstract, such as a set of actions.

Reference and referents were considered at length in the 1923 book The Meaning of Meaning by the Cambridge scholars C. K. Ogden and I. A. Richards. Ogden has pointed out that reference is a psychological process, and that referents themselves may be psychological – existing in the imagination of the referrer, and not necessarily in the real world. For further ideas related to this observation, see failure to refer.

In syntax
Considerations of the possible arrangement of expressions which may be co-referential – having the same referent – have been undertaken by linguists engaged in the study of syntax, particularly since Noam Chomsky's launch of Government and Binding Theory (GBT) in the 1980s. The subject of binding is largely concerned with the possible syntactic positions of co-referential noun phrases and pronouns. Attempts are made to explain phenomena such as that illustrated by the following pair of sentences: In the first sentence, she and Mary may have the same referent (she may refer to Mary), but in the second they normally cannot. More details of these considerations can be found in the articles on GBT and binding linked to above.
 * Before she dried off, Mary was wet.
 * She dried off because Mary was wet.

In computing
Considerations of references and their referents are sometimes of importance in computing and programming. References play a role in the Perl programming language, for example, and the ref function is used to obtain the type of the referent of an object.

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Mass action (sociology)

Mass action in sociology refers to the situations where numerous people behave simultaneously in a similar way but individually and without coordination.

For example, at any given moment, many thousands of people are shopping - without any coordination between themselves, they are nonetheless performing the same mass action. Another, more complicated example would be one based on a work of 19th-century German sociologist Max Weber, The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism: Weber wrote that capitalism evolved when the Protestant ethic influenced large number of people to create their own enterprises and engage in trade and gathering of wealth. In other words, the Protestant ethic was a force behind an unplanned and uncoordinated mass action that led to the development of capitalism.

A bank run is mass action with sweeping implications. Upon hearing news of a bank's anticipated insolvency, many bank depositors may simultaneously rush down to a bank branch to withdraw their deposits.

More developed forms of mass actions are group behavior and group action.

Epidemiology meaning
In epidemiological (disease) models, assuming the "law of mass action" means assuming that individuals are homogeneously mixed and every individual is about as likely to interact with every other individual. This is a common assumption in models such as the SIR model.

Popular culture
This idea serves as the main plot theme in author Isaac Asimov's work, Foundation. In the early books of the series, the main character, Hari Seldon, uses the principle of mass action to foresee the imminent fall of the Galactic Empire, which encompasses the entire Milky Way, and a dark age lasting thirty thousand years before a second great empire arises. (In later books the principle is augmented with more recent developments in mathematical sociology.) With this, he hopes to reduce that dark age to only one thousand years, ostensibly by creating an Encyclopedia Galactica to retain all current knowledge.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Metaphysical

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE. Golbez 03:13, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

The Metaphysical
Non notable, reads like a total advert. 9 Google hits for Metaphysical + "Ed Churchman". -- BD2412 talk 15:33, 2005 Jun 13 (UTC)
 * Delete: Appears to be self-recorded and self distributed. Good luck to all musicians with something original to say, but not sufficiently notable for an encyclopedia at this time. Geogre 16:56, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable (not yet at least)Tobycat 00:15, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Vanity. StuTheSheep 05:13, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete vanity. JamesBurns 06:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chief Manitou

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Chief Manitou
Unverifiable nonsense (?). Google gives 57 unique hits for "Chief Manitou", none of which bear any resemblance to this. Looks like some sort of joke article. Delete Anilocra 15:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: Prank and juvenile joke. Geogre 16:57, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete joke/hoax. --Etacar11 23:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete hoax. JamesBurns 06:52, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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TR-1 Temp

The TR-1 Temp (Темп-С, Temp-S, meaning 'Speed') was a mobile theatre ballistic missile developed and deployed by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. It was assigned the NATO reporting name SS-12 Scaleboard and carried the industrial designation 9M76 and the GRAU index 9К76. A modified version was initially identified by NATO as a new design and given the SS-22 reporting name, but later recognized it as merely a variant of the original and maintained the name Scaleboard. The Temp entered service in the mid-1960s.

The TR-1 was designed as a mobile weapon to give theatre (Front) commanders nuclear strike capability. The weapon used the same mobile launcher (MAZ-543) as the R-17 Elbrus missile but had an environmental protective cover that split down the middle and was only opened when the missile was ready to fire. All were decommissioned in 1988–1989 as part of the INF treaty banning such weapons.

Operators

 * The Soviet Armed Forces were the only operator of the TR-1 Temp. It was also placed in countries of Warsaw Pact for example Hranice (Military area Libava) (39) in Czechoslovakia, and Königsbrück (19), Bischofswerda (8), Waren (22) and Wokuhl (5) in East Germany. Its active reach from there covered whole West Germany, parts of Scandinavia, France and Netherlands.

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User:Saulkaiserman

Saul Kaiserman is the Director of Lifelong Learning for Congregation Emanu-El of the City of New York and the editor of the weblog New Jewish Education. He is an innovative leader in youth, travel, music and media education and has lectured and performed internationally for over 20 years.

Mr. Kaiserman serves on the faculty of the Leadership Institute as a mentor for emerging leaders in Jewish education and on the clinical faculty for the New York School of Education at Hebrew Union College (HUC-JIR). He is a regular presenter at the conferences of Limmud NY: Jewish Learning Without Limits, where in 2013 he was an invited presenter for the Community of Educators.

From 2005-2007, Mr. Kaiserman was a Mandel Jerusalem Fellow at the Mandel Leadership Institute in Jerusalem, Israel, where his area of focus was on leadership and educational change in congregational settings. He has previously served as Director of Education of Central Synagogue in Manhattan and of the Free Synagogue of Westchester in Mount Vernon, New York. Earlier career highlights include serving as the Director of Education of the Free Synagogue of Westchester in Mount Vernon, New York and the Program Director and Head Songleader for JCC Camp Sabra in Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri.

Mr. Kaiserman is a frequent contributor to Sh’ma: An Online Journal of Jewish Responsibility, in which his most recent article, “Do-It-Together Jewish Education,” appeared in the February 2010 issue. Other published writings include “A New Kind of Diversity: Jewish Education in a Pluralistic Society," which appeared in the Fall 2007 issue of Jewish Education News, “Synagogue Schools and Congregational Agendas,” which appeared in the January 2007 issue of Sh’ma, and “Rethinking the Jewish Cultural Renaissance,” co-authored with Stephen Hazan Arnoff, which appeared in its November 2006 issue.

In 2008, Mr. Kaiserman was an invited presenter responding to the Sosland Research Center’s Educators in Jewish Schools Study. In 2007, he chaired the session on the “Relationship between Education and Building Intentional Communities” for the eleventh Quadrennial Conference of the World Council of Jewish Communal Service (WCJCS). In 2006, Mr. Kaiserman presented the paper “The Classroom as the ‘Hub’ of School Community” for the Melton Centre conference “Reframing Jewish Day School Education Worldwide” at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

Mr. Kaiserman serves on the education advisory board of the Jewish Partisan Educational Foundation and the academic advisory committee of the Ivry Prozdor High School at the Jewish Theological Seminary (JTS). He is a former vice-president of the Isabella Freedman Jewish Retreat Center and was a founding staff member of the TEVA Learning Center for Jewish Environmental Education, on whose advisory board he served for ten years. He has previously served on the education advisory board of the Solomon Schechter School of Manhattan, the student admissions committee for Hebrew Union College (HUC-JIR), the professional development task force of the National Association of Temple Educators (NATE), and the steering committees for Hazon and Kol Zimrah: Meaningful Prayer through Music.

Mr. Kaiserman holds a Master of Arts in Jewish Education from the Davidson School of Education of the Jewish Theological Seminary. He received the title of R.J.E. (Reform Jewish Educator) from the Reform Movement in 2003. He is a native New Yorker and lives on the Upper West Side of Manhattan with his wife, Elizabeth Freirich, and their daughters, Jory and Zeva.

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User talk:Balancer

Thanks
Hey, thanks for your improvements on the Andamanese page! Would you be able to do the same thing for the Andamanese languages page? It's mainly the 1st paragraph that needs copyediting. Thanks. --Khoikhoi 03:36, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Good to know my efforts were appreciated, and you're welcome! It didn't read as awkwardly as the Andamanese page, but I gave a try at making it as easy a read as possible without losing any content.Balancer 23:58, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, good job! Thanks again. --Khoikhoi 03:24, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

"Many in the pro-Wars camp were critical of his article, arguing that Brin had no idea what he was talking about."
I've edited this back to "Many in the pro-Wars camp were critical of his article, in particular, it was pointed out several of his arguments were founded on misconceptions or addressed within the Star Wars Expanded Universe."

The main reason for this is the other wording implies that all criticism of Brin was founded on nothing more than personal attacks, and because three major errors in Brin's reasoning can be demonstrated in an entirely NPOV fashion: namely:

 * That the EU novels establish that a democratic society follows the downfall of the Empire, the New Republic [something Brin is either unaware of or is ignoring for some reason], whereas Brin seems to believe that Leia or Luke will establish some kind of monarchy.

 * That Brin misquotes Yoda's line in Episode 1: he quotes it as "Fear makes you angry and anger makes you evil" when the actual line is "Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." This seriously affects his later points that getting angry can be justified and that SW says anger makes you instantly become evil.

 * He misses exchanges like the one in TESB between Yoda and Obi-Wan: "Much anger in him... like his father" "Was I any different when you taught me?" and the later one in RotJ in which the Emperor says "Good, I can feel your anger. I am unarmed. Take your weapon. Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete"  which is even clearer on the matter; anger is not enough, because Jedi can be angry and remain good; the Emperor knows he must get Luke to use the Force out of hatred to bring him to the Dark Side. This means Brin is absolutely wrong: SW says clearly and repeatedly that anger alone does not make you evil. That alone means the inclusion of the 'based on misconceptions' comment is justified.

 * Brin apparently doesn't remember Return of the Jedi very well, since he claims Vader's sins were 'forgiven' at the end, when in fact Vader's funeral with Luke standing alone in front of the pyre is one of the most memorable scenes in the movie, and indeed the whole series. His allegations against Vader are almost all based on misconceptions about A New Hope; Vader had nothing to do with the operation of the first Death Star, and yet Brin constantly accuses him of "murder[ing] the population of Earth many times over;" apparently confusing Vader's role with that of Grand Moff Tarkin in the first film.

There are others, but those are the clearest. It's correct that we don't need a link to Mike Wong's diatribe as a 'counterpoint,' but there were some very valid points raised about Brin's essay and it should at least be implied what the content of the major points was. Hrimfaxi 03:39, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

 * No more than the content of the major points regarding the ICS etc. Those aren't NPOV points. Number one is a question of interpretation - not just of the EU, which (as the section makes clear) he wasn't reviewing, but of interpreting the EU itself. Within the EU Leia is sometimes criticized - by other characters - as a monarch-like figure. Luke and Leia remain, through much of the EU, towering Campbellian figures intimately involved in the running of society, even during periods when they don't hold office. The "misquote" is something known as a "paraphrase." Brin interprets the quote as fear being the beginning of the path to the dark side, the next two stops being anger and hate. His condensation of it (Fear>anger>hate>dark side to anger>dark side, snipping out a couple steps on the way) is considered reasonably accurate by many. Your third point doesn't ring universally either. He interprets the funeral as Vader being forgiven; his labelling Vader as responsible for the destruction of Alderaan is also hardly universally ungrounded.

 * While you can make your case for Vader not being responsible, others can make the case that he is responsible. To say that his essay was "based on misconceptions" is to establish a clear POV. It may well be worth noting that most of the criticism of Brin comes out of the clarifications of the EU (the EU being notably absent in his review), but to say that his review was based on "misconceptions" pointed out by pro-Wars debaters is not. Balancer 05:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

 * The New Republic is a democracy, and is called such dozens of times in the EU: Brin doesn't even mention this in his allegations, so it is entirely NPOV to state that his essay doesn't address points made in the EU, even without a 'people point this out' qualifier. It doesn't.

 * His 'paraphrasing' is dubious given he later paraphrases again as "If you get angry -- even at injustice and murder -- it will automatically and immediately transform you into an unalloyedly evil person!" and again as "In other words, getting angry at Adolf Hitler will cause you to rush right out and join the Nazi Party?" This doesn't fit with the facts [or your assertation of what he means]; Obi-Wan stated he himself was 'full of anger' and the Emperor knowing Luke was angry long before he turned to the Dark Side. As said, the contradictions between what the film says and what Brin says are clear and commonly stated regarding this. People say his points are based on misconceptions, and as long as it's clear in the article that people say it rather than it is true it qualifies as NPOV.

 * His third point is very problematic: he implies through his comparison to the Allies "throwing a parade for Hitler" that everyone in the entire Rebel Alliance forgives Vader. That simply does not happen. Luke is the only person at Vader's funeral, no other character is seen to forgive him unless you count the ghosts of Yoda and Obi-Wan, and even then that's just three people in the entire galaxy.

 * Again, we should have a mention of the strong arguments against his point [as per Neutral_point_of_view]; we need not say they are true, link to a rebuttal or go into excessive detail, merely what they are; misconceptions and the EU. 'Seemed to be founded on misconceptions' is probably a better wording, however. Hrimfaxi 05:27, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Recent EU edits
I'm curious- was your recent edits to Expanded Universe (Star Wars) a merge of EU with another article, or your own work? If the latter, I'm fairly impressed. --maru  (talk)  contribs 04:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Hm? I'm not quite sure what you're talking about with impressed, I pretty much accidentally blanked the aricle, and then RV'd in a hurry when I realized what had happened. Balancer 04:14, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Oh, really? Guess I didn't set the diffs back far enough! Well, what work I've seen was good, so... right result, wrong process? --maru   (talk)  contribs 05:29, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Webcomic articles and notability
Dear NetOracle,

I understand that, in the several days since you have registered this account, you have introduced a large number of AFDs, particularly in regards to webcomics and webcomic-related articles. It would appear that you are simply putting up webcomic articles for deletion on the basis that you don't think they are notable when you, in fact, do not know whether or not they are notable. I would like to quote something Zaron commented in one such recent AFD:

Putting an article up for AfD is no replacement for a source tag, especially with a subject that meets notability standards as easily as this one.

In the future, I would appreciate it if you made a reasonable effort to determine notability before putting an AFD up on the basis of notability, or, where appropriate, simply tagged the article to indicate that the article itself does not establish notability where it should. Balancer 21:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I am not putting up articles for deletion on my personal feelings. Rather, I have taken a close look at articles which are either complete fancruft (as evidenced by the complete lack of notablility), or are the greater portion fancruft (as evidenced by their grossly disproportionate size and detail). I base my determination on existing Wikipedia policies and guidelines, such as verifiability, reliable sources, and encyclopedic standards. This is by no means an attack against webcomics as a form of art and entertainment. My actions are motivated merely out of a desire to keep Wikipedia from becoming a directory of anything liked and recognized by at least a few dozen people. We are not DMOZ. NetOracle 21:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Regardless of whether your personal feelings are involved, you are putting AFDs up without making any serious attempt to verify notability or possessing the sort of familiarity with the field in which the articles fall that would allow you to make such a judgement independent of the article. Thus, you are inappropriately introducing AFDs when it would be appropriate instead to tag the article for improvement or clarification.

 * However, the fact that you seem to view any webcomic article, no matter how well or poorly written, as "fancruft," indicates you have a bias against webcomics in general. Balancer 01:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Why do you say with such certainty that I have not seriously tried to verify notability? I have. How do you think I determined that most of these articles are mentioned solely on a small number of blogs, forums, chatrooms, and other user-driven social pages? When an article lacks sources which meet principles includingverifiability, reliability, and encyclopedic standards, AND standard searching fails to uncover any such sources, it can be concluded that the subject is not notable. Any person should have little to no difficulty in finding solid sources on any notable subject.

 * Again, I have attempted to verify the notability. When I did not uncover sources to establish notability, I was forced to conclude that the article fit a pattern of rampant fancruft which has become a part of most collaborative encyclopediae. No specific subculture can own a set of articles, and the establishment of walled gardens on Wikipedia is inappropriate. Therefore, it is reasonable to expect that every article should have meaning to those not familiar with its subject. Just because I don't find entertainment in webcomics, and am not familiar with the genre/subculture, does not disqualify me as having the skills and knowledge needed to judge their notability. If a person such as myself, as an outsider, can read literally dozens of articles, and fail to see proper establishment of notability through proper sources in those articles, then the articles need to be deleted. One should not have to be already familiar with the subject in order to put faith in an article's profession of notability; the profession of notability should stand on its own. NetOracle 03:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

WCCA DRV
You KNEW that this was coming. Having expressed your dismay about this, would you mind stepping in and sharing your views? (In particular, I had to do this late at night, and I'm worried about the holes that might've left in my argument, and the things that I didn't cover.) --Kizor 01:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

The Shroud 13:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)== Invite ==

Thanks for the invite to the deletion/tagging page. I've already put up a minor edit on style/language/aesthetics grounds and will try to think of more substantive issues. Where is this page going? Is it going to end up being some sort of formal rule? TMLutas 19:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

 * It is my hope for this to end up as a guideline article, or advisory essay - see No angry mastodons for an example of a fairly prominent advisory essay - linked to in Guide to deletion or Deletion policy, as this is an area that apparently requires some additional elucidation and emphasis. Balancer 22:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I will fully support your ideas on the deletion/tagging page, and truly hope to see it become official policy. - Zaron 22:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Many thanks for the invite. I have placed a potential addition on the relevant discussion page.--BoatThing 05:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I thank you for informing me of the page. Perhaps it could be redirected to after a deletion suggestion is submitted.The Shroud 13:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration
Thank you for the information. I am unclear on one thing in the process though, the page says
 * "This is not a page for discussion, and Arbitrators or Clerks may summarily remove or refactor discussion without comment. "

Where is the appropriate place for me to place my input should I have any? --zandperl 14:08, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I also have the exact same question.  I have commentary to add, but I can not see an appropriate place for me to do so.  Basically what I would add is my opinion and interpretation of the closings in question, plus a staement of grave concern over NHN's statement " Administrators are administrators for a reason. I do not chose to ignore comments by any editor. I have to reject them when they do not conform with policies.", which to me, comes aoff as an eletist statement, and implies that common editors can not speak out against the interpreted application of a policy in a specific case, in effect it is a "it's my way or the highway" cavalier attitude toward the process of concensus.  Thanks, Jerry lavoie 14:12, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I'd assume that you'd write a statement labeled "statement by (name)" below the section "Statement by Balancer" and "Statement by Spartaz". Balancer 14:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. I have made a statement on the NHN request for arbitration, and I thank you for the thoughtful and well balanced presentation of the facts. Some of this is driving me nuts with frustration, but I hang in there because I believe that there are editors out there deleting notable webcomic articles because simply being a webcomic is "fancruft" by their personal definition. Timmccloud 17:05, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

 * As I've said in the RfA, I think this particular issue is much larger than webcomics. It does, of course, make it in some ways easier to delete articles. Balancer 23:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Where do we go from here? Jerry lavoie 02:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

 * In this case, I think the proper procedure is (as I jumped the gun on RfA) to go to RfC (Requests for comment/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington (2nd RfC)) and see if a consensus can be generated on the issues raised. Balancer 23:27, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

RFC
I was just about to ask you: Requests for comment is in fact the next step in Resolving disputes rather than the RfA - are you interested in pursuing the matter there? You probably shouldn't repost comments made at RfA at RfC unless the poster endorsed the copying explicitly --Golden Wattle  talk 23:34, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I thought it seemed appropriate to be bold and go ahead and port the existing commentary. Although some of it is not relevant to RfC (e.g., the comments to move to RfC), so you may have a point there. Balancer 23:38, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I've sent out messages to everybody who hadn't gotten word sent to them yet except the one admin whose talk page said "Don't message me about anything I say on a RFAR!" Balancer 23:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I'm onboard. Timmccloud 01:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Balancer. I've done my best to convert Requests for comment/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington (2nd RfC) into the right format for an RfC. You might want to fill out the section at the top under Statement of the dispute to include the Desired outcome for you of this RfC. WjBscribe 01:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Thank you very much. Balancer 01:49, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I have commented on the RfC, as asked. I hope we can resolve this whole mess, because it really is causing a great deal of tension and ill-will. NetOracle 22:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Thank you. Balancer 00:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

the noob
Unbelievable. The comic that earned a #1 ranking on topwebcomics.com (it's currently #4) had it's DRV upheld and is now permanently deleted. And the page is protected, so that it can't ever be re-created. I am shocked, appalled, and I have lost a lot of faith in wikipedia because of this. Timmccloud 13:07, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

 * It is all quite irregular. Even though most of my contributions as an editor have been to pages not likely to be deleted, I do find it a very discouraging sign that shows something on Wikipedia is broken. Balancer 14:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Note, by the way, that I don't think this whole flap is hurting webcomics. Sure, it's apparently making a number of "webcomics people" miffed, but The noob - for example - isn't going to start losing ground among its readers simply because it's no longer on Wikipedia. What's being hurt here are Wikipedia's principles; some of the five pillars are being quietly sunk into the mud. Wikipedia's reputation may also be suffering some, but I don't consider Wikipedia's reputation as important as its utility and integrity. Balancer 16:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Got to politely disagree with you here. Wikipedia already has an uphill battle for it's reputation, because of the open nature of a wiki to vandalism and inacuracy.  So any further damage to what reputation Wikipeda has by editors and administrators showing bias makes this problem much worse. Losing that reputation means that people stop coming to Wikipedia to read, which leads to less people interested in editing, and that begins a downhill spiral I don't want to see happen.  Timmccloud 23:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

STvsSW
Thanks for the heads up. Alyeska 04:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. For anybody else coming in regarding the DRV: It is my personal considered opinion that, in the long run, around 50% the current form of the article is probably WP:OR in the strictest sense, although the presence of an article on the topic is clearly justified by the various sources under WP:Notability, and that most of the current content would be probably best off on Wookieepedia's rather less-well-contributed-to page on the topic. I am quite willing to consider and discuss this opinion at length in a relisted AfD in order to help achieve a consensus on the topic. Balancer 05:03, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bioplintcarnorythmics

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Bioplintcarnorythmics
I'm no scientist - so apologies if in ignorance I'm wrong. But no googles for this - nor the scientists cited leaves me suspicious --Doc (?) 15:39, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete - a "non-existent field of science". Hmm... Anilocra 15:48, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete --RobertG ♬ talk 15:54, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Transforming a graviton into a protein? Give me a break. Delete. -- BD2412 talk 21:31, 2005 Jun 13 (UTC)
 * Delete total b.s. --Etacar11 23:46, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete utter nonsense. Plus, refers to 'secret' writings - so surely uncitable and unpublished. -Splash 00:45, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete--pure gibberish. StuTheSheep 05:11, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * BJAODN. JamesBurns 06:53, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - rapidly. Complete nonsense.--Ian Pitchford 10:46, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nonsense. --Kimchi.sg | Talk 15:35, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Please. --TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:53, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Orbitally rearranged monoatomic element and send to FAC . Sorry, it's getting late in France. Delete and let me go to bed. Physchim62 21:31, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Sesbania drummondii

Sesbania drummondii, known as poisonbean, rattlebox and rattlebush, is a medium-sized perennial shrub in the legume family Fabaceae. It is native to the southeastern United States, from Texas east to Florida.

These woody-based shrubs grow from 1 - 3 m tall. It is usually much branched in the upper portion. Branches are thin and widely spreading. The medium green leaves are alternate, deciduous, and pinnately compound. There are typically 12-24 leaflets, and occasionally as many as 60 are found. Each leaflet is oblong shaped and 2 - 3 cm long. The orange-yellow, pea-like flowers occur in a drooping raceme on a long stem. They are often found with red lining. The seed pods are four-sided, four-winged, and about 10 cm long. The peas rattle inside, giving this plant its common name of Rattlebush. Inside the pods, the seeds are separated by transverse partitions.

These plants flower from May to October, usually retaining many of the seed pods, which remain attached until the plant dies back to ground level for the winter.

This plant prefers moist soils of ditches and frequently-inundated meadows, as well as depressions and the open edges of lakes, ponds and streams.

The seeds are poisonous, containing the toxin sesbanimide. Animals raised with the plant learn to avoid it because of the foul taste of the green and flowering plants. However, naive cattle, goats or sheep placed on pastures containing dried plants in late fall and winter are frequently poisoned. Sick animals often die within 24 hours.

This species is named in honor of the Scottish-born naturalist Thomas Drummond (1793-1835). Other common names include sennabean and Drummond sesbania.

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User talk:The Lab Rat

Hi Lab Rat, IMHO the reading of the abbreviation you have given cannot be correct, since it contradicts Latin grammar. "virgine" is ablative and does not match with "beatae Mariae" which is either genitive or dative. "To the honor of" usually reads "in honorem" or "ad honorem". The phrase *might* read "Beatae Mariae virgini honor" (Honor be to the blessed virgin Mary) but I am not an expert here. Do you have a Jesuit at hand (I think the phrase is used among Jesuits) you could ask? For the time being, it might be best to put the entry between arrows. Regards T.a.k. 15:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bryce Harrington

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Bryce Harrington
Bryce is nice, but I don't think he's noteworthy enough to have an article of his own. silsor 15:43, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

The author of the article swung the vote by notifying editors who would be particularly interested in Bryce (contributors to the Inkscape article), so I withdraw the VFD. silsor 05:52, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete for nn. --Lord Voldemort 15:45, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, i guess I am just not nerdy enough to quite get his notablity, but if everyone else thinks it's fine... Keep. --Lord Voldemort 21:31, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete: A programmer. I'm sure he's good, but he's not very notable at present. Geogre 16:58, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. I created the article. I think it meets the criteria listed under Importance, which say it should be considered not notable if "only a small number of people (eg. 100 people) are currently interested in the subject." Inkscape has a big user community, and I think easily more than 100 people might be interested in the article. --Bcrowell 17:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. Concur w/above. If singers and bands deserve notability, an engineer working the cutting edge of tech certainly deserves space. Open Source Technology will make EVERYONES computer software cheaper and better - that affects milllions, or possibly billions. That's pretty notable. Also a sister project of sorts to the free software foundation - whose technology we use on Wiki - Look for the Gnu! [[User:fabartus || TalktoMe]] 03:05, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Nothing in current policy supports deletion. Darrien 04:49, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think he isn't a no-body. --minghong 04:53, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, seems to be involved in important enough projects, as with fabartus he's more interesting than many of the crappy singers and bands with articles. UkPaolo 19:13, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep he is a linux kernel tester and helped started Inkscape, both very important projects. NSR 00:59, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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NWA World Tag Team Championship (Central States version)

The Central States version of the NWA World Tag Team Championship was the main professional wrestling championship for tag teams in Heart of America Sports Attractions, later known as Central States Wrestling (CSW) from 1951 to 1959, then again from 1962 to 1963 and then finally from 1973 to 1979. CSW was a member of the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA), whose bylaws allowed any of their members, referred to as NWA territories, to create their own version of the NWA World Tag Team Championship that would be promoted within their territory. The Central States version was primarily defended in CSW's home town of Kansas City and during their shows across Missouri, Kansas and Iowa. As it was a professional wrestling championship, it was not won or lost competitively but instead by the decision of the bookers. The title was awarded after the chosen team "wins" a match to maintain the illusion that professional wrestling is a competitive sport. In 1957 there were at least 13 different versions of the NWA World Tag Team Championship being promoted in various NWA territories across the United States.$[Championships]$

The Battling Duseks (Emil Dusek and Joe Dusek) were the first NWA World Tag Team Champions in the Hearts of America promotion. Records do not indicate if the Duseks won a tournament or were simply awarded the championship by the promoters prior to being presented as champions on May 26, 1950. Joe and Ernie Dusek would later hold the championship as well as the combination of Emil and Ernie holding the championship twice before the championship was abandoned in 1960. From 1960 to 1962 the championship was inactive and instead the NWA Central States Tag Team Championship was recognized as the main tag team championship in the territory. On October 10, 1962 Pat O'Connor and Sonny Myers defeated Bob Geigel and Lee Hennig to win the NWA World Tag Team Champions as the promoters brought the championship back. The second era of the championship lasted for around two years until it was abandoned in lieu of the newly created NWA North American Tag Team Championship around 1963. In 1973 CSW abandoned the North American championship and brought the NWA World Tag Team Championship back. Great Togo and Tokyo Joe defeated Bob Geigel and Rufus R. Jones to win the vacant championship. In 1979 Central States Wrestling once again abandoned the championship to permanently adopt the NWA Central States Tag Team Championship as their top tag team championship. Bob Brown and Bob Sweetan were the last holders of the NWA World Tag Team Championship.

Ernie and Joe Dusek teamed up to win a total of five tag team championships, the most of any team, followed by Emil and Ernie teaming up for a total of three championships as a unit. Ernie and Joe Dusek both held the championship a total of seven times, the most individual reigns. The longest reign of any of the three championships eras belongs to Ernie and Joe Dusek, who held the championship for at least 545 days from late 1956 to June 27, 1958. Due to lack of specific dates for many of the early championship changes it is impossible to clearly determine who had the shortest reign of any champion. The shortest confirmed reign was an eight-day reign for the team of Larry Hamilton and Sonny Myers from October 25 to November 2, 1956.

Team reigns by combined length
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Concurrent championships

 * Sources for 13 simultaneous NWA World Tag Team Championships
 * NWA World Tag Team Championship (Los Angeles version)
 * NWA World Tag Team Championship (San Francisco version)
 * NWA World Tag Team Championship (Central States version)
 * NWA World Tag Team Championship (Chicago version)
 * NWA World Tag Team Championship (Buffalo Athletic Club version)
 * NWA World Tag Team Championship (Georgia version)
 * NWA World Tag Team Championship (Iowa/Nebraska version)
 * NWA World Tag Team Championship (Indianapolis version)
 * NWA World Tag Team Championship (Salt Lake Wrestling Club version)
 * NWA World Tag Team Championship (Amarillo version)
 * NWA World Tag Team Championship (Minneapolis version)
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Message in a Bottle (Star Trek: Voyager)

"Message in a Bottle" is the 14th episode of the fourth season of the American science fiction television series Star Trek: Voyager, the 82nd episode overall. It aired on January 21, 1998 on the UPN network.

Set in the 24th century, the series follows the adventures of the Starfleet and Maquis crew of the starship USS Voyager after they were stranded in the Delta Quadrant far from the rest of the Federation. Using an ancient alien relay network, the ship's holographic Doctor is transmitted to the Alpha Quadrant to make contact with Starfleet Command.

This episode features a new Federation ship design called the U.S.S. Prometheus, which was designed by Rick Sternbach for the show. The starship forms both a major plot element and theatrical location for "Message in a Bottle". It is also the first episode to feature the new uniforms from Star Trek: First Contact in the series, despite that the Voyager crew had already continued to wear the original DS9 uniforms as they are stuck in the Delta Quadrant.

Plot
Seven of Nine uses the newly extended range of the starship USS Voyager's sensors to locate an unattended network of alien sensor stations. Patching into this, she is able to locate a United Federation of Planets vessel in the Alpha Quadrant. Hoping to contact Starfleet after more than three years in the Delta Quadrant, Voyager's crew attempts to send a message along the relay but it is reflected back after degrading en route. Thinking that a holographic signal would not degrade, they send the Doctor, Voyager's Emergency Medical Hologram (EMH).

The Doctor arrives in the sickbay of the USS Prometheus, a secret experimental Federation warship. He learns from a dying crewman that the Romulans had learned of the prototype and captured it, killing all onboard. Being pursued by the USS Bonchune, the Romulans initiate the first test of the new multi-vector assault mode, in which Prometheus splits into three pieces to engage hostile ships.

Seeking assistance, the Doctor activates the Prometheus's EMH (Andy Dick), a Mark II version of the program. The Doctor learns from the other EMH of the Dominion War, which the Federation is fighting in and Romulans have not entered. The second EMH cites protocol for an EMH to deactivate when its vessel is taken over but Voyager's doctor notes that they cannot do so as both ships are at risk.

The Romulans do not view EMHs as threats. Using the pretense of an infection on board, the Doctor goes to the bridge to open the atmospheric filters to flood the ship with anesthetizing gas. The ruse fails but when he is captured and interrogated, the Doctor keeps the Romulans stalled long enough for the EMH Mark II to fool the ship's computer into opening the filters, permitting the distribution of the gas. Just after they take control, Prometheus is intercepted by three Romulan D'deridex-class warbirds.

Unfamiliar with the helm and weapons systems, the two EMH programs fail to fool the Romulans into leaving, before three more Starfleet vessels arrive. In the ensuing battle, all six other vessels target Prometheus. The EMH Mark II stumbles upon the command to put the ship into multi-vector assault mode. Prometheus overpowers and destroys one of the Romulan warbirds; the Romulans retreat and a Starfleet security detail arrives aboard.

On Voyager, the crew has learned that the sensor array was not abandoned but is claimed by the Hirogen, who announce themselves and demand that Voyager disconnect at once. Janeway tries to negotiate but the Hirogen officer is recalcitrant. Seven of Nine buys time to await the Doctor's return by stunning the officer with a feedback loop. The Doctor returns via the array with good news; he has briefed Starfleet Headquarters about Voyager, the first time Starfleet has heard from the vessel since it disappeared three years earlier. Voyager has been removed from Starfleet's list of destroyed ships and a message sent back, "You're no longer alone". Starfleet will attempt to help Voyager and will tell next of kin that the crew is alive.

Production
Original design is based on a concept drawing submitted by a promotional contest winner hosted by UPN. The exterior of the fictional spacecraft depicted in the episode was created by Rich Sternbach and the special effect sequence done by Foundation Imaging. The interior sets of the same spacecraft were designed by Richard James. The exterior visual shots by Foundation were done using computer generated imagery.

Continuity
This episode is noted in the story arc of the Star Trek: Voyager show, as the first time that Voyager regains contact with the Federation since being stranded on the other side of the galaxy. This provides a back-story for many character developments, such as an increased morale and hope of making it back to Earth, as well as establish backstory for further contact with Starfleet in later episodes.

Reception
SyFy Wire ranked this episode the 3rd best episode of Star Trek: Voyager, calling it a "fast paced action comedy" and praising Robert Picardo's performance with Andy Dick. Screen Rant ranked this episode the 5th best episode of Star Trek: Voyager, based on an IMDB rating of 8.8 out of 10, also noting it has a gritty situation but also comedic elements. The episode was ranked as one of the top 10 episodes of Star Trek: Voyager. Den of Geek also ranked "Message in a Bottle" as one of the top ten episodes of Star Trek: Voyager. Gizmodo listed this episode as one of the "must watch" episodes from season four of the show.

Screen Rant ranked the USS Prometheus as the 2nd fastest Federation Starfleet spacecraft. They note the experimental nature of the vessel in the Star Trek universe, and suggest that it might have been used to make contact with the missing-in-action Starfleet spacecraft the USS Voyager. CBR rated the Prometheus as the 3rd most powerful spacecraft in the Star Trek universe, noting the vehicle for its ability to operate with a very small crew size. The ship was also rated as the 12th best spacecraft of Star Trek by Space.com in 2017.

Home video releases
In 2017, the complete Star Trek: Voyager television series was released in a DVD box set with special features.

Expanded Universe
A novel published in 2017 features the fictional spacecraft depicted in this episode, Star Trek Prometheus: Fire with Fire by Christian Humberg and Bernd Perplies. The same authors also wrote Star Trek Prometheus : The Root of All Rage published the following year.


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Living Witness

"Living Witness" is the 91st episode of the science fiction television series Star Trek: Voyager, the 23rd episode of the fourth season. This episode takes place in 3100s, when an AI program called The Doctor (played by Robert Picardo) is re-activated by aliens.

The events from Voyager 's time in the Delta Quadrant, in the 2370s, are viewed through the eyes of history as museum spectators observe recreations of the past, nearly 700 years after the initial events. A backup of the Doctor's program is found and reactivated, allowing him to set the record straight. The episode deals with the topic of historical revisionism and is considered by critics as one of Voyager's best episodes.

This episode was directed by Tim Russ, who also plays Tuvok on the series.

Setting
The episode is partly a review of events in 2374, partly the experiences of a copy of the Doctor’s hologram program in the year 3074, and partly a review of these two time periods by historians in an unspecified more distant future.

Plot
The episode opens with a scene on the "warship Voyager", an alternate Voyager with a brutal, sadistic crew. The Vaskan ambassador requests their military aid against their enemies, the Kyrians, but the crew goes above and beyond what is necessary, committing genocide against them with biological weapons and executing the Kyrian revolutionary hero Tedran. The scene is then revealed to be a recreation by a Kyrian museum exhibit, seven hundred years later. In the actual course of events, Captain Janeway had agreed to provide the Vaskans with medical supplies in exchange for dilithium crystals. Tedran and the Kyrians boarded Voyager to stop the deal, which they thought was a military alliance. During their time on the ship, they stole a data module carrying a backup copy of the Doctor.

Quarren (Henry Woronicz), the curator at the museum, has found the Doctor's backup module three weeks prior. He is able to activate it using Voyager's own tools. The Doctor, upon seeing this biased simulation of history, is appalled and offers to show Quarren the correct version of events. Initially, the Doctor's claims that Voyager was unfairly depicted by the Kyrians are ignored, and he is told he could be held accountable for war crimes when he presents his story to the Commission of Arbiters. The Doctor states, however, that a presently non-functional Starfleet medical tricorder would settle the issue of who killed Tedran.

After fending off an angry mob of Vaskans intent on destroying what they now know to be a museum of false history, the Doctor initially wishes to abandon his quest to set the record straight and says that the truth may cause more harm and violence. Quarren objects, saying that the tension between the Kyrian and Vaskan cultures has already reached the breaking point. Quarren stresses that both races on his planet need to hear the truth about the real course of events on Voyager. This persuades the Doctor to continue searching for the tricorder.

The episode ends an indeterminate number of years later, as the museum's new curator explains that the two species finally made peace thanks to the Doctor's efforts, with Quarren living long enough to see peace made. Following the peace, the Doctor served as the surgical chancellor for the Kyrians and Vaskans for many years, but eventually he took a ship and departed for Earth, saying that "he had a longing for home".

Reception
Space.com rated "Living Witness" as the 6th best Star Trek episode overall out of its seven hundred plus episodes. The Hollywood Reporter rated "Living Witness" the 34th best episode of Star Trek overall. Digital Trends gave "Living Witness" an honorable mention in an article highlighting the best episode from each Star Trek series.

TrekNews.net ranked this the second best episode of Star Trek: Voyager. Den of Geek ranked "Living Witness" the second best episode of Star Trek: Voyager, behind "Year of Hell" and noted the "evil Voyager" segment as entertaining. The Hollywood Reporter rated "Living Witness" the 3rd best episode of Star Trek: Voyager. ScreenRant said this was the 7th best episode of Star Trek: Voyager, based on an IMDB rating of 8.8 out of 10. SyFy ranked "Living Witness" as one of the top ten episodes of Star Trek: Voyager. Vulture listed this episode as one of the best of Star Trek: Voyager.

CBR rated "Living Witness" the 6th best 'holodeck' episode of the Star Trek franchise.

Den of Geek ranked actor Henry Woronicz (portraying the character Quarren) as the 7th best guest star on Star Trek: Voyager.

The Digital Fix said this was a "superb episode" for Robert Picardo's AI doctor.

Ancient World Magazine noted this episode for subverting the expectations of those that are familiar with the show, and for exploring the relationship between history and the present.

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Rattlebush

Rattlebush is a common name for several plants in the legume family with inflated fruits in which the seeds may rattle:

 * Baptisia
 * Crotalaria
 * Sesbania drummondii, native to the southeastern United States

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António Fernandes

António Fernandes may refer to:

 * Álvaro Fernandes, 15th Century Portuguese slave-trader and explorer
 * António Fernandes (explorer), (?–c. 1525) 16th century Portuguese explorer who traveled in Zambia and Zimbabwe
 * António Fernandes (Jesuit) (c. 1569–1642), Portuguese Jesuit missionary
 * Antonio Fernandes (politician), Indian politician

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paper bag

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Paper bag
Ehh? --Doc (?) 15:48, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete (although I'm reluctant to delete "paper bags are often used for holding liquid if they're made of plastic"). I can't imagine anyone will come to an encyclopedia in order to look up the formula for the capacity of a crisp packet.  --RobertG ♬ talk 16:02, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * A "paper bag made of plastic" is not a paper bag at all. It is a plastic bag. Uncle G 16:26, 2005 Jun 13 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that was my point exactly - I meant to put BJAODN or LOL at the end of the brackets to make it clear I wasn't being entirely serious. --RobertG ♬ talk 16:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - article needs expanding though.
 * Page history says above edit was by User:Eyeon --RobertG ♬ talk 17:28, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. — Phil Welch 17:18, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Uncle G has dramaticaly improved this - removing the nonsense. All that is left, however, is the maths formula for the volume of a bag. Move to Volume of a bag or simmillar (the material is surely irrelevant to the maths)- if that's agreed than I'm happy to withdraw my nomination/or vote keep. --Doc (?) 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Handle in the same way that we handle cone, ice cream cone, and cone (geometry): Rename and disambiguate. An equal-weight disambiguation between plastic bag and paper bag (geometry) is one way. Uncle G 17:35, 2005 Jun 13 (UTC)
 * Agreed, Keep then --Doc (?) 18:12, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Uncle G's version. I am sure a useful argument could be written about paper bags but the original version wasn't it. Capitalistroadster 17:57, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep rewritten version. If/when someone writes an article about paper shopping bags, then we should move and disambiguate.  Until then, leave as is. -- Jonel 02:55, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * keep notable packaging. Klonimus 04:02, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Definetly notable so keep this. Actually, was quite informative... Sasquatch′↔Talk↔Contributions`
 * Keep, encyclopedic topic. Those formulae make me smile. :-) Sjakkalle  (Check!)  08:47, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Excellent.  —RaD Man (talk) 09:00, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep the cool wiki-effect by Uncle G-- Un focused 16:00, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * KEEP but Renamew/redirect or disambig as necessary — Paperbag (Container) ala Drum (Container) and check catagories. (Uncle G would have, N'est pas?)   [[User:fabartus || TalktoMe]] 03:13, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment -- A C Robin. I am interested in above comments. Obviously I was aware of the illogic of going from paper to plastic bags containing liquid. I did this because Paper Bag I thought was a better place to start. Thank you to whoever rewrote my mathematical formulae, I am not familiar with the format of formulae you use.
 * Anthony, I encourage you to (a) log-in to obtain for yourself a shiny new User:Anthony C Robin account, complete with talk page so that other Wikipedia editors can communicate with you easily; (b) read Help:Formula; and (c) lend a hand (bearing in mind our no original research policy) at other mathematical pages such as lens (geometry) (which your article caused the creation of) and at WikiProject Mathematics. Uncle G 09:30, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC)

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.  Please do not edit this page .


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Talk:Ridick

I'm not quite sure why this page is a candidate for deletion? There are other words in wikipedia that are slang or vernacular. Especially shortened forms of another word.

Firstly, "Wikipedia is not a dictionary". All you can say about this word is that it is a shortened form of 'ridiculous'. As such it belongs in Wiktionary. Secondly it's very doubtful that it's got anything like widespread usage. When I googled the word, almost all the usages were foreign or misspellings of Riddick. Hence the redirect. DJ Clayworth 15:55, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Pedro de Sintra

Pedro de Sintra, also known as Pero de Sintra, Pedro da Cintra or Pedro da Sintra, was a Portuguese explorer. He was among the first Europeans to explore the West African coast. Around 1462 his expedition reached what is now Sierra Leone and named it. Although according to professor C. Magbaily Fyle this could have possibly been a misinterpretation of historians; there has been evidence of Serra Lyoa being mentioned prior to 1462, the year when de Sintra's expedition reached the coast of Sierra Leone. This would suggest that the person who named Sierra Leone is still unknown. However, if de Sintra did name the area, it is unclear whether he named it after the landforms or climate in the area. According to some the coastal regions resembled lion's teeth while others suggest the thunderstorms sounded like the roar of a lion. Sixteenth century English sailors called the area Sierra Leoa which later evolved to Sierra Leone in the 17th century. The British, prior to the area being colonised, officially adopted the name Sierra Leone in 1787.

De Sintra continued his journey from Sierra Leone to contemporary Liberia, and passed Cape Mount, Cape Corso (aka Cape Mesurado) and stopped at some forested hills, which he called Bosco de Santa Maria- probably contemporary 'Bassa Hills', where he turned since his interpreters could not understand the local language. De Sintra returned to Portugal in 1462 and one of his mariners, who had been on an earlier voyage of Alvise da Ca da Mosto, 1455 or 1456, gave the latter an account of this voyage, which Ca da Mosto published in Venice, after he left Portugal in 1463. Ca da Mosto's Navigazioni, were first published in Venice in the mid-1460s. Pero de Sintra's voyage is the first and only one commanded by the new king Alfons V - who, however, in 1468 negotiated a contract with the private merchant Fernao Gomes to fit out caravels for further exploration of the West African coast (1468-1474). After his voyage no further information on Pero de Sintra has come forward.

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Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Guettarda

Guettarda
final (41/2/0) ending 15:50 20 June 2005 (UTC) Very good user. He made many articles on biology and Trinidad and Tobago. He made about 4370 edits since September 2004. He is very flexible and clearly understands principles of Wikipedia. I believe, that he will be a good admin -- Darwinek 15:56, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. I accept the nomination.  Guettarda 16:10, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Support
 * 1) How could I nominate and not support. -- Darwinek 15:56, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) I've had othing but good experiences; should make a level-headed and sensible admin. Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 16:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) William M. Connolley 16:57, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC).
 * 4) Anyone Dr. C. supports must have his good points ;-) and anyway he seems to know how to use the tools. -- Uncle Ed (talk) 17:03, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Definitely support. Vsmith 17:19, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Strongly support, SqueakBox 18:52, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * 7) Support-JCarriker 19:30, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * 8) violet/riga (t) 22:51, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 9) Yesindeedy - Grutness...  wha?  02:33, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 10) Support Nothing but good edits. Bratsche talk  5 pillars 02:48, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * 11) Support. He's good at dealing with those (e.g. myself on at least one occasion) who aren't as well-informed as he is. -- Hoary 03:21, 2005 Jun 14 (UTC)
 * 12) Support. A very good user, and a very strong candidate. Sjakkalle (Check!)  06:26, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 13) Support. A very good editor, and interacts well with other users. SlimVirgin (talk) 10:58, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * 14) Seems like a solid contributor, but uses edit summaries roughly half the time and should consider using them more. Radiant_ >|<  08:33, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC) Addressed my concern, so support. Radiant_ >|<  12:45, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * 15) El_C 12:49, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 16) Support - He's a well-informed and valuable contributor. JoJan 13:11, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 17) Support- a dedicated Wikipedian. Flcelloguy 15:08, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 18) Support. --Kbdank71 16:16, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 19) Support. consistently levelheaded and balanced editing, and even the guts to leave a message on my talkpage just in case i might want to vote against.  far from it:).  Ungtss 17:09, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 20) Strong Support I like that Guettarda takes responsibility for his statements and actions. FeloniousMonk 22:54, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 21) Support. Still waters run deep. siafu 00:10, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 22) Support, his positive qualities are far more expressive than his negative ones. --Sn0wflake 00:19, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 23) Support. Good contribs. --Viriditas  | Talk 05:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 24) support Dunc|☺ 08:45, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 25) Support. Impressed by his ability to argue passionately without abuse. This shows an ability to confront issues appropriately and I admire that. --Theo  (Talk) 11:23, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 26) Support. Exactly what we need.  — Chameleon 13:04, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 27) Support. -- Silversmith Hewwo 15:03, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 28) Strongly support. — Sesel wa  03:44, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 29) Support Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:43, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 30) Support Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd 13:50, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * 31) Cool. JuntungWu 15:11, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 32) Support - as a new user to Wikipedia, I have found Guettarda's input very informative and well presented and in a respectful manner. Guettarda already appears to be an experienced Wikipedia scholar and I think that this online consortium can only benefit from his clear headed perspective. --rkstaylor 16:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 33) Support. Edit history indicates he will use admin powers responsibly. Jayjg (talk) 20:49, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 34) Support. Arguing passionately for one's position is not inconsistent with responsible stewardship. The ability to accept disagreement is a fine quality in an administrator.  Kelly Martin 21:50, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * 35) Support. Jonathunder 22:59, 2005 Jun 16 (UTC)
 * 36) Support. Seems to know what's what. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 12:49, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 37) Support. I very much support the idea of nomination for Guettarda to "adminship" status. CaribDigita 18:34, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 38) Support. Seems like a good editor.     19:21, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 39) Support - MPF 11:49, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 40) support - How'd I miss signing this one? - UtherSRG 14:59, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * 41) Support. Valuable contributor who gets along well with others. -- M P er el ( talk 19:01, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Regretfully. I felt he was not willing to even consider compromise on CE/AD, and given the heatedness of the issue, he should have done. Grace Note 06:32, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * While I respect your position, I feel that I cannot, in good faith, compromise on something that I feel violates the NPOV policy. At the same time, I have not made any changes to articles against community consensus.  Guettarda 12:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 07:32, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Because Boothy443 has opposed every adminship request on this page without reason, I have left him a polite comment/suggestion on his user talk page that he either provide reasons for his opposition or withdraw his votes. Flcelloguy [[Image:Bass clef2.gif|25px|Cello today?]] Give me a note! Eighth note (crop).gif Desk 21:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Neutral

Comments
 * While I disagree with some of his views (CE/AD debate), I certainly feel that Guettarda is capable of presenting his side of a discussion on talk pages without causing ill feeling or getting anywhere towards edit warring on the articles themselves. I think this will go to prove a capacity to retain a view while not being biased when making a decision – something I value highly in an admin.  violet/riga (t) 22:51, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
 * 1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? (Please read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.)
 * A. I must admit that my primary interest in sysop tools is access to the rollback button to revert vandalism. I don't do RC patrol, but with 1270  1310 1348 pages on my watchlist I deal with it fairly often.  I also expect to contribute to cleanup on the various ".fD" pages and RM.  I regularly read the WP:AN/3RR page and notice that there are slow times when things remain unresolved (or unlooked at) for several hours - I could see myself contributing there as well, and with vandals (though I have no intentions of going on a blocking spree if elected; I prefer to talk to vandals and troublesome newbies/anons).
 * 2. Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
 * A. I am pretty happy with Democratic Labour Party (Trinidad and Tobago) (which I just put up as an FAC), Eric Williams (I personally dislike him strongly, but have managed to write NPOV - which is a humbling experience), my contributions to Race (mostly limited to the Talk page), and List of snakes of Trinidad and Tobago. Perhaps also the volume of work - I have created a critical mass of Trinidad and Tobago-related articles.
 * 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
 * A. I have been in conflicts - though they have mostly been restricted to the Talk pages.  I have no intention of edit warring.  My major conflict/stress related to the BC/AD NPOV issue (Neutral point of view/BCE-CE Debate).  Mostly I deal with stress by finding something else to work on (in Wikipedia or the real world) for a while, ignoring the issue when it comes up on my watchlist, until I no longer feel so annoyed.  In the beginning I didn't deal with it well, but most of these early run-ins were either resolved or just blew over (I nominated the first person I clashed with, User:Sesel for adminship.


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Latent Image (Star Trek: Voyager)

"Latent Image" is the 105th episode of the American science fiction television series Star Trek: Voyager airing on the UPN network, the 11th episode of the fifth season. The show has stories about a spacecraft, the eponymous USS Voyager, traveling back to Earth after being lost on the other side of the Galaxy; the episodes typically focus on problems encountered by its crew. In this case ship's holographic medical program, "The Doctor" (Robert Picardo), finds something amiss in his program's memory. In the typical style of the Star Trek franchise, the story uses science fiction to explore the philosophical issues, in this case, of medical ethics, personhood, decision making, and human rights.

This episode originally aired on UPN on January 20, 1999.

Plot
During a routine medical examination, the Doctor discovers evidence that Ensign Harry Kim has undergone complex brain surgery within the last two years which only the Doctor could have performed. Having no memory of the procedure, the Doctor attempts to reconstruct the missing time period and discovers that certain files in his memory were deleted. A reconstruction reveals photos of an Ensign Ahni Jetal, a woman of whom he has no recollection.

The Doctor eventually discovers that Captain Janeway and the crew conspired to eliminate files concerning a traumatic event that caused a holographic equivalent of a psychotic break. After an attack during an away mission, the Doctor could only treat one of two equally critically injured patients: Ensign Jetal and Ensign Harry Kim. The Doctor saved Harry, while Jetal died on the operating table. As time passed, the Doctor was overpowered by guilt, believing his friendship with Harry affected his decision to save him rather than Jetal. A conflict then developed within his ethical programming that compromised his impartiality.

On having the previously deleted files reinstalled, the Doctor's mental stability once again deteriorates, and Janeway is faced with deleting his memories or allowing the Doctor time to resolve his guilt, a decision that could leave the crew without a medic in the interim. Seven of Nine argues to Janeway that, much as she herself did, the Doctor's personal development has advanced to where he deserves an opportunity to evolve beyond his program's original constraints. Janeway allows the Doctor to retain his memories so he can eventually reconcile with his past actions.

In the final scene, the Doctor reads from La Vita Nuova. The words differ from the actual poem to make them more applicable to the story and give a more profound sense of closure: "In that book, which is my memory, on the first page of the chapter that is the day when I first met you appear the words, 'here begins a new life'".

Actor commentary
Robert Picardo said that this is not only his favorite Voyager episode, but also the most important in the development of the Doctor's character.

Reception
In 2012, Den of Geek ranked "Latent Image" as one of the top ten episodes of Star Trek: Voyager.

In 2020, SyFy ranked this the 5th best episode of Star Trek: Voyager, commending it as a "powerful drama" that mixed a whodunnit with a medical storyline.

Releases
On November 9, 2004, this episode was released as part of the season 5 DVD box set of Star Trek: Voyager. The box set includes 7 DVD optical discs with all the episodes in season 5 with some extra features, and episodes have a Dolby 5.1 Digital Audio track.

On April 25, 2001, this episode was released on LaserDisc in Japan, as part of the half-season collection, 5th Season vol.1. This included episodes from "Night" to "Bliss" on seven double sided 12 inch optical discs, with English and Japanese audio tracks for the episodes.

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Talk:Mozarabic Rite

POV
I think it's a bit POV to say that the Novus Ordo mass is widely criticized, so I changed it to criticized by some. JesseG 15:51, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

Test?
I remember seeing some test at Toledo of the two rites, where they were both placed in a fire. The Latin rite fell from the fire, while the Mozarabic rite stayed there but did not burn. Both were then deemed acceptable. Sadly no source. --Henrygb 11:25, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

 * In the link to the Catholic Encyclopedia:
 * This was resisted by his subjects, and on Palm Sunday, 1077, according to the "Chronicon Burgense", occurred the incident of "El Juicio de Dios". Two knights–"one a Castilian and the other a Toledan", says the chronicle–were chosen to fight "pro lege Romana et Toletana". The champion of the Spanish Rite, Juan Ruiz de Matanzas, who was the victor, was certainly a Castilian, but it is improbable that the champion of the Roman Rite, whose name is not recorded, was a Toledan, and the Annals of Compostella say that one was a Castilian and the other of the king's party. The "Chronicon Malleacense", which alleges treachery, calls the latter "miles ex parte Francorum", and at the later ordeal by fire in 1090 the Roman Rite is called impartially "romano", "frances", or "gallicano". It is said that two bulls, one named "Roma" and the other "Toledo", were set to fight, and there also the victory was with Toledo.
 * But, in spite of the result of the trials by battle, Alfonso continued to support the Roman Rite, and a Council of Burgos (1080) decreed its use in Castile. In 1085 Toledo was taken and the question of rites arose again. The Mozarabic Christians, who had many churches in Toledo and no doubt in the country as well, resisted the change. This time another form of ordeal was tried. The two books were thrown into a fire. By the time the Roman book was consumed, the Toledan was little damaged. No one who has seen a Mozarabic manuscript with its extraordinarily solid vellum, will adopt any hypothesis of Divine Interposition here.
 * --Error 01:04, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Mozarab life
Are you sure that Mozarabs suffered so much in Al-Andalus? As far as I know, they were tolerated as dhimmis. In specific occassions they were persecuted, but not in the beginning, unless they provoked. (There are cases of priests blasphemying against Muhammad looking for martyry as a prophetic call to those Mozarabs that got too close to Islam). --Error 01:04, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

 * What I've usually heard is that it varied. The Umayyads were generally okay to Christians. Or in least as tolerant as anyone back then was to any non-establishment religion. Some Umayyad rulers were better than others and reverting to Christianity after converting to Islam was cause for execution as an apostate. Later I think things declined with the coming of the Almoravides and then eroded further with the Almohads. The article as written doesn't quite make that clear and sort of treats the Islamic period as sort of just all the same.--T. Anthony 11:44, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

 * The opinion expressed that religious natives were treated exceptionally harshly, and that "Islamic rule is normally more systematic than Christianity at placing other faiths in an inferior political position" flies in the face of almost every comparative analysis of ancient occupying traditions that I have seen. The Ummayyads were far from altruistic, but their tendency toward ill-treatment of their subjects pales in comparison to the treatment of non-catholics in the post-Islamic period, or even Christian minorities in other Christian dominions.  This is a totalizing evaluation, and would need much more stastical support in order to challenge the conventional view of Mozarabic life.--User:David 9:29, 26 May 2006

 * I was actually toning it down from what it was before. I think it is fair to say Islam more clearly has a political status in mind for non-Muslims and that status is inferior. Christianity didn't have any political power for its first two to three centuries so the persecutions by Christian kingdoms more evolved from historic events. Muhammad held political office in his lifetime and so had rules from fairly early on about non-Muslims. In many cases this made Islam more tolerant than Christianity of the same era. Still in a way I think it is fair to say they were more systematic to non-believers in that they had an actual system.--T. Anthony 03:34, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Language
Are you sure that the rite has parts in Arabic? The usual tongues of Mozarabs and Muladis would be Mozarab languages. Arabic was a language of culture, but I doubt that they would hold mass in it. The linked Catholic Encyclopedia article has quotes in Latin and Greek but no Arabic. --Error 01:04, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Can you explain this? The most precise use of the term "Mozarabic rite" is for that liturgy followed by the Spanish who submitted to Islamic rule. St. Isidore of Seville (d. 636), who was influential at the Fourth Council of Toledo 633, according to the wishes of that Council, gave the Mozarabic rite its final form before the invasion of the Muslims.

How can be a Mozarabic rite without the Arabic influence? How can a rite be called Mozarabic (633?) before the invasions of the Moors and the Sirians (ca. 750)? Is there something going on with the date?

 * The name "Mozarabic" came later. It was also named "Hispanic". --Error 20:42, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

- Isn't "Hispanic" an American coined term, a bastardization of "Hispano" ... derived from the Latin "Hispanum" used to describe the Iberian Penensula and its cultural regions, therefore should the term "Hispanic" be deleted for the term "Hispano" instead? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.245.209.141 (talk) 06:28, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Widely reputed to be spiritually fulfilling?
Huh? That's really surprising for a religious practice. Let's try giving just a little more editorial content and judgment in the first paragraph of an "objective" entry! Maybe we should put that same comment in as boilerplate for all religious articles!
 * I also find the statement rather un-encyclopedic. Could we at least have a source for it?  Failing that, perhaps it would be best to remove it. Adso de Fimnu 17:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I concur. Could it be rephrased with exactly WHO had the opinion that it's "liturgy is particularly apt as a spiritual defense during Islamic rule, and is widely reputed to be spiritually fulfilling." Reverend Mommy 02:07, 8 February 2007 (UTC)candlemb

Co-redemptrix?
Can someone verify the statement about Mary as a "co-redemptrix"? I'm not sure that use of that term is theologically correct in this context. Majoreditor 22:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

More information about the liturgy?
I come from a completely non-Catholic church background, and am interested in the rite and liturgy that supposed to be discussed in this article, however, after reading it I have no clear picture whatsoever of what a typical liturgical meeting would look like. Perhaps some more examples, or at least some further reading links? Batman080580 21:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a great idea. I would also like to see a little of the history of the rite with examples as it developed of what the elements looked like.  Reverend Mommy 02:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)candlemb

Having read the piece myself, I'd like to also get more detail on how Anglicans were studying the Mozarabic rite, and sources if any. Renpaul 13:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Is it in Arabic?
Is there not a mass celebrated in Arabic in Toledo?

No, it is in Latin or in Spanish nowadays. Also no text have been found of the mass in Arabic and  I doubt it was once celebrated in Arabic. --DaniloVilicic (talk) 19:39, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Words of institution
The text says: "...though the Roman was included in the footnotes and was the one used in actual practice (the new Missal contains the Roman words of institution within the text itself)." As far as I know, the new Missal restituted the Mozarabic words of institution not those of the Roman Missal, it says: "Accípite et manducáte: Hoc est Corpus meum quod pro vobis tradétur. Quotiescúmque manducavéritis, hoc fácite in meam commemoratiónem." and: "Hic est calix novi testaménti in meo Sánguine qui pro vobis et pro multis effundétur in remissiónem peccatórum. Quotiescúmque bibéritis, hoc fácite in meam commemoratiónem." Maybe that passage should be rewritten to clarify.--DaniloVilicic (talk) 19:45, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Suggested Inclusions
I concur to the usefulness of a skeletal outline of the Rite itself; either a link to a site with the full rite spelled out (there must be one somewhere) or a short outline (Introit...Gradual...etc.) with a brief note as to the similarities and differences with Roman and Gallican. (Ditto Unites, etc.)

Also, the main lacuna is any mention at all of 'los seises' the dance observed twice per year at Toledo and Seville under this rite. See Lynn Matluck Brooks' book, pp. 93 et passim, for the references to this; the documentation begins with the re-establisment of the rite under Cardinal Cesneros in 1504.Dellaroux (talk) 20:31, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

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