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Grammatical Fix
Just thought I'd mention it here since I already fixed this and found it reverted, but you can not "center around". You can however "center on". It seems that RepublicanJacobite may have accidentally lumped my single grammatical fix in with random vandalism. To quote John B. Bremmer's book Words on Words,

"It is physically impossible to center around. Make it center on. If you want to use around, use it with cluster, hover, revolve, rotate. Use around with circle when the context is dynamic ('The protesters continuously circled around the stadium'), but not when the context is static ('Police circled the hijacked plane')."

I've taken the liberty to re-institute this grammatical fix in the first paragraph, but if consensus is that we should center "around" and not "on", I won't change it again if it's reverted, so no worries on a revert war over one word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.71.54.190 (talk) 19:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Post-Apocalyptic Category
I think Delicatessen should be taken out of the post apocalyptic movie catagorie and moved somewhere else since, it appears to take place during WWII (At least this was my impression of it).

I disagree - it is definitely post-apocalyptic and is set in the future.--Colin 17:10, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

I note from the DVD comentary on Amelie that the director included Princess Diana in that movie to fix it to a point in time - perhaps because of this confusion about Delicatessen! The film seems to be deliberately vague about time; it is certainly post-apocalyptic, but everything in it seems to be of a style assoicated with the 1950s, so identifying the apocalypse in question is difficult.Biglig 13:03, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Some films (Alien: Resurrection) are placed intentionally in some future time. This film and the next (The City of Lost Children) are intentionally beyond time. They are tales and/or metaphors in imaginary space-time (although this one could be claimed to be "in France"). Even the term "post-apocalyptic" does not necessarily place an event in "real time". I think one should not limit the imagination of the reader (or viewer) by trying to place a film in time, if this is not the intention of the director or writer. The way this article starts does this. It is also not so encyclopedic to include possible interpretations. I will therefore move the first phrase which attempts to connect it in "real space-time" to trivia and if at a later time more information, or quotes from some acceptable source are found, it can be reintegrated. I leave a "post-apocalyptic" and "possibly France" mention as they fit the film's style. --Hoverfish 08:09, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I accept Esn's compromise. Singing Badger's claim is understandable and partly accepted. The only thing is to avoid grounding the spell of a tale-universe in our everyday-universe. It is a mystery place, in a lose way a kind of Twilight Zone. It is not like Mad Max where a story is clearly placed in a post-apocalyptic Australia, given in raw everyday terms. There are no miraculous actions, no fairy-dimention, yet a surreal design is strongly present. It is France, but it is a surreal France. It is in future, but it is in a surreal future. Hoverfish 16:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I use the term alternate universe for this kind of thing. By the way, it doesn't just look like France, it looks like France in the 1950s from the costumes and the TVs. The Singing Badger 17:59, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I tweaked your tweaking of my edit a tiny bit more, because I think that "unspecified" is more accurate than "unknown" (one would assume that the film's characters would know where they are). Otherwise, I think it's fine now (unless someone wants to add a wikilink to "alternate universe"). -Esn 20:40, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It does look very much like the past, with almost all of the technology. Maybe particularly the TV sets. There is one anachronism, however: The remote control for the TV. And yes, it is definitely and obviously a post-apocalyptic setting. If you can't see that, there's something wrong with you. --Peter Knutsen (talk) 17:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Parts of France were post-apocalyptic within recent memory for the folks of the fifties. The landscape reminded me of some Bill Mauldin cartoons showing similar scenes in Italy in the forties. Crude remotes such as the one seen in the film were available on Zenith TV's in the middle fifties. __Just plain Bill (talk) 12:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If so, I suggest to pipe it directly to Parallel universe (fiction). I think "unspecified" sounds better. I also think the plot needs more detail too. The way it is it says very little about the film. If next year Life of Pi comes out, it is bound to get a lot of attention. So we still have some time to polish up the existing Jean-Jeunet films. Also this link to the recent criminal case mentions less details on Haarmann than the wikipedia article... Hoverfish 21:19, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

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The giveaway of the plot twist
It has been a long time since I saw this movie so my memory may be failing me. I remember that the butcher's scheme in the movie was an important plot twist and it is spoiled immediately at the first paragraph of the Plot section. The section may be rewritten so that it gives away the twist at the end, maybe? Avnibu (talk) 10:40, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

starring Karin Viard.?
She's in it sure but she's not one of the "stars". How come neither the butcher or his daughter are mentioned as stars? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.238.30 (talk) 22:54, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

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Discovery of the first brown dwarf star
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Astroclimate and seeing
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Nancy Spender

Nancy Culliford Spender (née Sharp, formerly Coldstream; 29 October 1909 – 20 June 2001) was a British painter, described on her death as "much underrated".

Biography
Nancy Sharp was born on 29 October 1909 in Truro, Cornwall, the daughter of Dr Hugh Culliford Sharp, C.B.E., medical officer for the city of Truro. Her grandfather, Edward Sharp, had been a surgeon at Truro. She attended Cheltenham Ladies' College and the Slade School of Art from 1928 to 1931. At the Slade, she met and married her first husband, William Coldstream, with whom she had two daughters.

In the late 1930s she had an affair with Louis MacNeice, illustrating two of his books and partially inspiring Autumn Journal. She met Michael Spender (brother of the poet Stephen Spender) at this time, and fell in love. In 1942, she divorced Coldstream and married Spender. She worked as an ambulance driver during the Second World War with the London Auxiliary Ambulance Service and her son Philip Spender was born in 1943. Her second husband was killed in an air crash during the last week of the war in Europe. She took up work as an art teacher, which she continued till 1977, teaching at schools in Lambeth and Bromley.

Nancy Spender's portrait paintings, still lifes and landscapes were painted in a figurative, realist manner. She exhibited regularly with the London Group and at the Royal Academy of Arts. After her retirement she increased her output of paintings and etchings. She was a committee member of the Artists' International Association for five years and also showed works with the Women's International Art Club. Having little interest in commercial sales, she did not have her first solo exhibition until 1979, which was held in a West End gallery run by a friend.

Nancy Spender died on 20 June 2001 aged 91.

Two of her portraits are now in the collection of the London's National Portrait Gallery and another is held at Sir John Soane's Museum. Both the Government Art Collection and the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford also have paintings by Spender.

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Love in a mist

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Prof. Hojo
Hi there!

One of our fellow editors WhiteArticleWolf reverted your addition to the Hojo section of Characters of Final Fantasy VII. This was because it was a personal opinion and therefore original research...anyway interested idea but I think that even though Hojo may have been responsible for the creation of Seph and the Jenova project he didn't really maintain control over the events...Gavin (talk) 03:15, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Again I certainly see your point but you could say Hojo's experimentation was brought about by Prof. Gast, whose research was only possible because of Jenova falling from the skies...therefore it is Jenova, not Hojo, who is the main antagonist. She is certainly one of the most vital characters in the whole series. It is her legacy which motivates Sephiroth to do what he did. It is her legacy which creates the geostigma and events of Advent Children. She is the one who set everything into moition! Or is she? What about the Shinra Company? Was it not their desire to advance their knowledge of Mako and the Cetra which provided Gast and Hojo the apparatus to study and experiment and so on? If not for the Shinra, Jenova may never have been discovered...Gavin (talk) 04:32, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm just looking back at your original post- "he really is the result of events set in motion by Hojo" this is true but I don't think that because Hojo started a process he is responsible for all the things the product of that process went on to do....if we start with the action and then work backwards we get this:
 * "Sephiroth did C"
 * BUT
 * "Hojo did B"
 * WHICH LED TO
 * "Septhiroth did C"
 * THEREFORE
 * "Hojo's B created Sephiroth's C"
 * THEREFORE
 * "Hojo is responsible for C"

Now this works I suppose until we perhaps add in-

 * "Gast did A"
 * WHICH LED TO
 * "Hojo Did B"

and so on you, get the idea. So in this sense, is Hojo worthy of being considered the main antagonist? I don't think so. You then go on to say "While Hojo doesn't control Sephiroth's actions, per se, those actions certainly meet his motivations, being "let's see what happens when we inject these cells into a human fetus"." I would argue otherwise- Sephiroth was an experiment that Hojo had little idea of what to expect from and he certainly didn't have any ability to control it. Therefore in this sense Hojo cannot be considered to have a role in much of the events of FFVII other than that he started it- pretty much its like saying Cloud's father is the main protagonist...well almost :p.

"While the game tends to cast Hojo's actions as being in a "helper" role, they're really more guiding the action of the course of the game." I don't really see that though...I think he is certainly present but he doesn't interfere expect when he force fires the Mako Canon- but that may and probably would have happened anyway.

For your second reply, was Hojo willing to let Sephiroth run amock? Yeah he was- but only out of the curiosity to see what he would do- he didnt have a master plan and didn't guide what Sephiroth did.

As for Jenova, was she just a force of nature? I'm not so sure- however if we run with that idea and suppose her role was purely passive we could consider another option:

Sephiroth really is the main antagonist! The result of an experiment carried out by Hojo yes but he was a perfectly stable member of SOLDIER until the incident at Niebelheim when he learned about how he was the subject of a biological experiment. He is the one who researched the Jenova experiment (Hojo never gave him the books, nor did anyone else). Indeed he is the one who chose to take Jenova on as a mother and carry out his plot to reclaim the world for "the ancients". At this point I think its fair to say that Sephiroth is the one who chose to act in the way he did, he was not pushed or prodded by anyone else- not even the man who engineered him.

Yet, what about the black materia? Who gave Sephiroth the idea to use it to call a meteor? There are two possibilities, either he discovered it himself or Jenova influenced him to get it. Overall I am unsure- but I think the evidence suggests that Sephiroth was largely in control of what he did- Hojo's role was minimal, Hojo was as Rufus said "a second rate scientist." Gavin (talk) 06:51, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

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Movement of Star Wars cruft to the Star Wars Wiki? the wub (talk) 09:15, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Nope, good try however. -- AllyUnion (talk) 15:16, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Assumably the opening of the StarWars Wikicity, which is already the biggest wikicity out there (and now I know why!). GreenReaper 14:31, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Don't ask me to elaborate the choice of words here since I didn't make this question. But you are incorrect.  Sorry. -- AllyUnion (talk) 15:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Hint: Hard to see, the Dark Side is. Alphax τεχ 09:55, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

On April 23 123.249.70.7 removed a large portion of Force (Star Wars) due to plagerism. -- Nis81 20:36, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

 * That's not it either. -- AllyUnion (talk) 22:39, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

plagiarism

Screetchy cello's guess
In April 2005, Michael Snow redirected The_dark_side_of_Wikipedia (history) and Dark_side_of_Wikipedia (history) to Why Wikipedia is not so great. Obviously, this shrunk the content of those two pages down to just a redirect.

I found this by assuming the "dark side" the question referred to was talking about Wikipedia itself, not any Star Wars link. I remembered seeing something once about the downside of Wikipedia and found it by googing " "dark side" site:en.wikipedia.org -"Star Wars" ". It's in the second page of hits.

--Screetchy cello July 9, 2005 09:50 (UTC)  (sorry, forgot to sign my post!)

 * Don't ask me to explain the question, but unfortunately you are incorrect. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:46, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Reediewes' verbose guess
Searching for ("dark side of wikipedia" site:en.wikipedia.org -"star wars" -"pink floyd") on Google turns up three hits. Following these links to the eventual destination of The dark side of Wikipedia and by redirect to Why Wikipedia is not so great. The "dark side" of Wikipedia is the possible inaccuracy, incompleteness, and POV-ness that may result from making the sum of all human knowledge editable by any yokel with a keyboard.

On April Fool's Day, 2005, a great deal of pages were created as pranks and jokes (Example list 1 and Example list 2). These articles were unencyclopedic and sometimes offensive and were deleted shortly after April 1st. The removal of these pages constituted a shrinkage in the dark side of Wikipedia. Reediewes 21:15, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

 * Nope. --AllyUnion (talk)

Hint
This question deals with a bug or error in the software used to run the Wikipedia. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:24, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Block compression bug
I thought it must refer to the block compression bug (mentioned here, which made it impossible to delete certain pages. These pages were orphaned (hence "hard to see"/"dark side") and put in Category:Pending deletions until the bug was fixed. However according to the history of User:Pending deletion script this was only fixed, and the backlog of pages deleted in May, not April. the wub  "?/!"  11:40, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

 * The bug refers to something in April. --AllyUnion (talk) 03:24, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Hint 2
This bug or error attempted to fix a problem only to cause a newer problem. --AllyUnion (talk) 01:44, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

I'll try...
This wouldn't have anything to do with, would it? Tim turned off tidy and some people's signatures had unclosed HTML tags, so text got smaller and smaller as the page went on. « alerante ✆ ✉ » 19:22, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Close enough. Correct!  The Unicode Byte Order Mark. (It was being inserted by HTMLTidy (http://tidy.sourceforge.net/) when dealing with broken signatures ironically, the reason it was turned on in the first place.) --AllyUnion (talk) 06:56, 25 August 2005 (UTC)


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Eskoriatza

Eskoriatza (Escoriaza) is a town and municipality in Gipuzkoa, in the autonomous community of the Basque Country, in northern Spain. It is located immediately south of Aretxabaleta.

The main campus of the Faculty of Humanities and Education of Mondragon University is located in the town. It is surrounded by low mountains.

The name Eskoriatza, Basque meaning black soil, refers to the fertile conditions of the land in the area.

Production facilities for various Mondragón cooperative businesses are located here.

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Talk:Yi Ku

Title: HIH
There has been considerable debate over the use of titles at the beginning of the article like this, especially not bolded and italicised. It's surely even less appropriate, however, when the person concerned is – as the article makes clear – only a pretender, not in office. That makes its use a political statement, which Wikipedia shouldn't be making. Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 09:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Unfortunately Sissel111 has simply replaced the honorific without having the courtesy to discuss it here. I've removed it again, pending discussion. Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 12:49, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * If he continues to revert to his version without having the simple good manners to discuss the issue, I shall ask for the page to be protected. Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 11:13, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry as I did such act. I didn't know well the rule here but he was already succeeded the 29th head of Korean imperial house, and he is obvious pretender in Korea. I think he must be called the His Imperial Highness. It must mark definitely. User:Sissel111

 * That his title would be "His Imperial Highness" can be mentioned in the article, but for Wikipedia to call him that would (I assume) be to take a stand on the legitimacy of his claim; our NPoV policy rule that out.
 * By the way, if you sign your messages using four tildes ( ~ ), your name and the date of the message will be automatically provided. Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 16:43, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

heirs
Does Prince Gu have any sons or daughters who can become his heirs? – Kaihsu 12:45, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC)

 * An adopted daughter; I don't know what her status is. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 18:26, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Alternative names
I should explain that I placed the alternative names in the summary because, when I was looking for details of his life and (more importantly) trying to confirm his death, I had no luck — until I realised that our article is one the very few that call him by this name. Most Internet sources seem to use Yih Ku, or other variants. Given that I'd been confused, i thought that other readers would be too, so I brought the alternative Romanisations into greater prominence. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 18:26, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Recent edits
I've just removed another in a series of copyvio images up-loaded by. I've also removed the following paragraph, which I'm completely unable to understand:
 * "Lord Yi Won (李源 이원 i won) (b.1961), the only son of Prince Gap and also the cousin's son which the Prince Gu loved most to link for him was decided unofficially in a following head of Korean Imperial Household."

--Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 09:16, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Sissel111 has removed the copyvio template from the image and replaced the image in the article. I've reverted this, and issued a warning. --Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 14:58, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Yi Won?
Does anyone know who this is? --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 22:42, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * See Yi Won. -- Visviva 03:48, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 09:07, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Title
Per the naming conventions for (cough) monarchs, shouldn't this be at Yi Gu? -- Visviva 03:48, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Name table.
Should the pretended title 황태손 be included here? It is verifiable and surely relevant to an article about someone whose lone notable attribute was his claim to the Joseon line. The content was removed by an anon, but I have restored it for now. -- Visviva 13:53, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I've added "claimed" as an attempt at compromise; is that OK? --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 16:16, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Requested move: Yi Ku

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Page moved to Yi Gu. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:46, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Gu, Prince Imperial Hoeun → Yi Ku – Relisting. -GTBacchus(talk) 04:12, 23 August 2011 (UTC) He is "Yi Ku" to the Associated Press, to The Telegraph, to the Los Angeles Times, to the Historical Dictionary of the Republic of Korea, and to Britannica. JoongAng Ilbo calls him "Yi Gu", as does Chosun Ilbo. Yonhap says "Lee Ku". I don't see anyone else calling him a "prince imperial hoeun". "Yi Ku" is already a redirect to this page. Kauffner (talk) 07:15, 15 August 2011 (UTC) I'm fine with either "Yi Ku" or "Yi Gu". But if anyone cares, it's 9 post-1990 Google Book results for "Yi Ku", compared to 5 for "Yi Gu". In the news archive, it's 9 for "Yi Ku," 8 for "Yi Gu". While I have to wonder how this subject got into Britannica, he is there and he has an entry entitled "Yi Ku". So that should decide it. "Yi Ku" is the traditional McCune–Reischauer system. MCT spelling is "I Gu". "Yi Gu" is some kind of compromise spelling. There is a WP:Naming_conventions_(Korean) about this stuff. Kauffner (talk) 12:10, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Support per the comprehensive nomination which shows that "Yi Ku" is the common name. Jenks24 (talk) 11:43, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, should have looked a bit more closely at first. I agree that Yi Gu is more popular on google, but only slightly. Really either Yi Ku or Yi Gu seem appropriate and reasonable to me. Jenks24 (talk) 16:36, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. Search engine results favour Yi Gu as the common name.  Night w   09:03, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisting discussion for comment on Yi Ku vs. Yi Gu as proposed titles. -GTBacchus(talk) 04:12, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. A Google search on {imperial prince Korea "Yi Ku"} yields 313 genuine hits; {imperial prince Korea "Yi Gu"} yields 431. Similar pairs of searches show a similar ratio. N oetica Tea? 05:52, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Move to Yi Gu since that doesn't require a change in spelling and because this seems to be the marginally more common spelling anyway.  Night w   19:18, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Move?

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Flimsy rationale not related to WP:AT (as is urged in many places). No support and no consensus, and already relisted once in the hope of getting it. We move on. Please also note that these three moves could and should have been raised and discussed as one multi move. Andrewa (talk) 16:29, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

 * Yi Gu → Prince Hoeun – Royal name instead of personal name. --Relisted. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:30, 20 April 2014 (UTC)  Article editor (talk) 00:41, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

 * Oppose. It is the nominator's responsibility to show that someone is actually using the proposed title. As shown in the previous RM, Britannica and other sources call him by the current title or by a minor variation of it. The proposed title was something his family came up with after her died. It is not recognized by the Korean government or any other legal authority. One leg at a time (talk) 19:35, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

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Ecotat Gardens and Arboretum

Ecotat Gardens and Arboretum (37 ha / 91 acres) is a non-profit gardens and arboretum located on Route 2 in Hermon, Maine, United States. They are open to the public without charge during daylight hours for tours, hikes, and cross-country skiing.

The site is home to over 55 gardens containing over 1500 herbaceous species and 130 woody species. The Arboretum contains 280 varieties of trees, including mature stands of Eastern White Pine, White Spruce, Tamarack Larch, Northern White Cypress, Red oak, White Ash, Red Maple, and Quaking Aspen, as well as a marsh.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leeds May Day Group

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE. Golbez 01:09, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Leeds May Day Group
not clear why there needs to be an article on this group, not notable AYArktos 09:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete non notable. JamesBurns 11:03, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * DELETE [I am not a fan of communism]. STORM LEGION666 15:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) — (The text in brackets was originally written by Newkidd and has been refactored by android per WP:RPA.)
 * Welcome to Wikipedia, STORM LEGION666. I've noticed that, with you're newly created user account, you've already managed to cast votes much like this one in seven vfd's (although you've done nothing else). -- BD2412 talk 16:28, 2005 Jun 14 (UTC)
 * New account. mikka (t) 16:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I have reported this user for Vandalism in progress. Please remove this paragraph when problem solved. -Snorre/Antwelm 16:37, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete non notable. mikka (t) 16:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable.--Kross 20:15, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.  Please do not edit this page .


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Talk:Military Intelligence Directorate (Israel)

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The content for much of this article is grossly outdated, the Lexicon of National Security (1976) being its main printed source. Now that the Hebrew Wiki has an entry on it (and it is substantial), I'll begin translating it at some point or another, supplanting/supplumenting when needed. El_C 00:15, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Correct name
In the English language press in Israel, the corps is called MI (Military intelligence) - not Aman.--Gilabrand 14:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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directorate
Where does this "directorate" bit come from?? The name of the page should be Military Intelligence (Israel).--Gilabrand 21:27, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008
Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 10:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

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Aman (disambiguation)
This page should probably be included in the disambiguation page at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aman_%28disambiguation%29

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