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Talk:John Phillips (musician)

Doo Wop
"they could not have been intimidating because they sang Doo Wop songs". Doo Wop was to 1950s youth culture what hip-hop has been to more recent generations ; it was associated with African-American street culture. The author of the original article clearly lacks historical context. Prairie Dog

 * Then change it: Be bold. :-)  — Frecklefoot | Talk 16:55, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

Naval Academy
John Phillips was accepted to and attended the United States Naval Academy, but did not graduate, leaving to pursue his beatnik music lifestyle. Some say that the song "California Dreamin'" was inspired by his stay at the Naval Academy, and him missing "LA." --66.74.77.102

 * This type of information is fine for the article. Be bold and add it. :-)   — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:34, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Indeed he had an appointment to the Naval Academy class of 1958, I believe. He left at the end of plebe summer before classes began. Most likely he did not write "California Dreamin" during this time. It would make it 1954 while most agree the song was written in '63 or so. Who has time to write a good song during plebe summer? --ProdigySportsman 02:11, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

 * No one is saying that the song was written during this period... only that it was inspired by his time away from LA.Tgpaul58 (talk) 14:03, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Either way, it's wrong. It has been stated many times by both John and Michelle Phillips that "California Dreamin'" was written after a walk they had taken in New York, after returning from the Virgin Islands. It was supposedly the first time Michelle had seen snow, she wasn't dressed for it. They stopped into a church to get warm, rather than to pray. Michelle was pleading to John and Denny to move to California, where she was from.Johnsmusicbox (talk) 23:42, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

 * It could be wrong. But the USNA thing played out (and was not in the article for a long time).  There are stories from his classmates of him playing the guitar and such.  I think stuff like this belongs on talk until substantiated.  Not in any way pushing it.  Or trying to play sneaky games with talk versus article.  Just the man was more than what his later life in rocknroll was.  Can ask first wife if you want...  TCO (talk) 21:44, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Consensual Sex
I object to using the word consensual in the paragraph about the incest without quoting someone. The word consensual has a specific meaning, a meaning that cannot be gleaned from the misuse of the word by trash-mag People. I suggest that unless we can quote an individual saying that the relationship became consensual, we instead leave that info out. Hipocrite (talk) 13:52, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

 * It's directly quoted from the source, but under the circumstances it might be best to wait till at least more orignal sources state it (not just ones that couple the people article). Since she's doing a video interview on Oprah tomorrow, it should clear things up anyway. I apologize because before I saw this on the talk page I also added the statement to Mackenzie's page, while I was adding the fact that both were under the influence of drugs during the rape (which is kind of an important fact to leave out in these circumstances). We could also add how she stated that she doesn't hate her father and doesn't want people to look down on him for it.24.190.34.219 (talk) 15:46, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

 * I also object to the use of the word "consentual". It's "consensual". Malbolge (talk)
 * I fixed it for you ;). Tgpaul58 (talk) 14:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

 * No way this was consensual. She says he raped her: http://us.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/23/mackenzie.phillips.oprah/index.html --Bernardoni (talk) 22:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

 * Okay, that was a bit rash. However, even if Mackenzie used the word "consensual", I would say she got that wrong. Consensual in the real sense means that both people agree on it. How can any kind of agreement take place after you were raped in the first place? And if the rapist is a figure like your father? Anyway, Mackenzie says it was like the Stockholm syndrome which is explained als "signs of loyalty to the hostage-taker". In other words, she got the idea of a consensual relationship wrong and we shouldn't use that word. --Bernardoni (talk) 22:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

 * She, herself, says that she was first raped but then it became consensual. She says it was consensual, therefore it was. She is qualified to speak about her view of the relationship. Your and my opinion on the issue of incest is irrelevant. =//= Proxy User (talk) 01:01, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

 * Someone who is a minor can not consent to a sexual relationship. Also, I doubt very much that anyone can consent to a sexual relationship with an authority figure such as a father especially if he has helped addict you to drugs.Tgpaul58 (talk) 13:58, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly. That she uses the word "consensual" just shows her confusion. It is highly illogic of her to say the relationship was consensual AND akin to the Stockholm syndrome (see above). Therefore, we should present facts and not opinions, and I think the facts speak for themselves. Incest and abuse of a dependent person is what it is. So far for the detached point of view that befits this encyclopedia. Let me add that this sadly gives a whole new meaning to one of the Mamas and the Papas (how ironic) and that it's highly unlikely that I'll ever be able to listen to one of their songs again without thinking of this. --Bernardoni (talk) 21:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

 * According to this BBC article, she claims that they started sleeping together when she was 19. She wasn't a minor. --121.45.160.32 (talk) 04:52, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Not to add to the argument, but I just wanted to point something out. Statements like:

"she uses the word "consensual" just shows her confusion. It is highly illogic of her to say the relationship was consensual AND akin to the Stockholm syndrome... therefore, we should present facts and not opinions"

Are completely irrelevant to this discussion. In fact, that statement is an opinion. It is a fact that she herself used the term, so that can be stated in the article with a source (in an example like, 'so and so stated the relationship was consensual'; not just saying 'the relationship was consensual'). No matter what any of us think if it's impossible that it was consensual or not, we can not interpret the information ourselves, that's original research. If however, an outside secondary source makes a comment on how the relationship could never really be consensual, then we can report and cite that. Basically, it makes no difference what any of us think of the situation. It is a fact to report or quote what someone said, it is an opinion to interpret quotes or words used by people (and thus against wiki policy), even if we think "she got it wrong". 24.190.34.219 (talk) 03:02, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

The article on Mackenzie Phillips has more on this issue. The respective paragraph in this article should be updated, too. 62.152.162.206 (talk) 04:12, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Sex after death
When i got to the article today, after 24 hours away from it, i noticed that the incest allegation was under the sub-head of "Death." It made me laugh. Then i fixed it by putting in a new sub-head, "Posthumous allegation of incenst" -- which is a bit long, i know, but is accurate, while anything shorter than that would not be accurate. cat yronwode, not logged in 64.142.90.33 (talk)

Fixed "tone"
The section on "After" the Mamas and Papa's had a "tone" tag. I rewrote the section and took the tag off. It now has better tone -- but still could use lots more refs. That's another issue, of course. Catherineyronwode (talk) 01:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Claim vs. allegation
I reverted the edit of allegation from claim back to claim from allegation. Here's my reasoning:

 * Claim: to assert in the face of possible contradiction

 * Allegation: a claim of a fact by a party in a pleading, which the party claims to be able to prove.

Since MacKenzie Phillips' has admitted publically she engaged in a consensual, incestutous relationship with her father, and her father is dead and these claims cannot be proven (see definition for allegation), "claim" seems to be the better, more correct choice of terminology here. What she reports happened may be contradicted (see "claim), but it can never be proven (see "allegation") because the other party is deceased. SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 02:18, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

solo album
I was trying to clean up some possible vandalism surrounding this entry. There was some commentary added that it wasn't the same John Phillips. It was completely removed, and I started to added it back minus the commentary. However I was having trouble verifying if it truly existed. Hopefully someone here with more knowledge can verify if it belongs or not.--Cube lurker (talk) 20:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * 1969: '' John Phillips (John) Recorded at RPM Studios Johannesburg South Africa 1969

Re: "The Mamas and the Papas" section
I found this rather difficult to follow at times. Some sentences were convoluted, while others seemed fragmented. Overall there wasn't enough information provided; there were several gaping holes in the narrative, which was rather confusing. Unfortunately I'm not sure how it could be improved. I'll think on it, I guess. But by all means go ahead if you agree with me and come up with a solution yourself. I'm not quite as, uh, "bold as some... and I'm not at all familiar with the pertaining topic. I was never a fan of early-to-mid-60's folk-pop, I always preferred the later 60's and 70's prodigies like Bridget St. John, Nick Drake, Leonard Cohen, Roy Harper. But that's beside the point. I'm just rambling. See, this is why I don't actually edit articles! Kind regards, and lots of love, D. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.105.6 (talk) 02:18, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

"You could have any man you want. Why would you take mine?"
While this quote/anecdote from Michelle Phillips quoting Mama Cass is very tasty ("You could have any man you want. Why would you take mine?"), it really doesn't have anything to do with John Phillips. I am more than reluctant to remove it myself, however. Mousebelt (talk) 16:46, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Undue weight
This is one of the saddest, most ill-represented articles I've ever come across on Wikipedia. This subject is regarded as one of the greatest songwriters / vocal arrangers of the 20th century. This is a travesty that clearly displays s non-NPOV toward tabloid content and trivial sensationalism. This is poorly researched and disgracefully honored. Shame. Maineartists (talk) 01:54, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 30 October 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved (non-admin closure). Jenks24 (talk) 06:30, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

– Possible primary topic by usage (more than four times the pageviews of all sixty-some other John Phillips combined) and significance (Rock Hall of Fame). Hameltion (talk | contribs) 04:57, 30 October 2023 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * John Phillips (musician) → John Phillips
 * John Phillips → John Phillips (disambiguation)
 * Weak oppose, there's so many noteable and historical figures with the name that I'm finding it hard to just pick the musician as PRIMARY. I wouldn't be terribly upset if consensus says otherwise, however.--Ortizesp (talk) 07:36, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Far too many with this common name on the list for him to triumph over all by long-term significance. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:17, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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User talk:MANOS

Plz leave a message and I might reply. All old posts are in the Trash Bin. MANOS

WP:3RR

Legitimate difference is not vandalism.--Tznkai 19:41, 31 July 2005 (UTC)  Yeah right... my thesis was illegitimate, but his isn't. lol I really want to see this. ;) MANOS

WP:Vandalism WP:Civility Read the applicable policies and guidelines please. We're here to be civil and work together.--Tznkai 19:46, 31 July 2005 (UTC) I'm not going to read all these. As far as I know they had reported me for vandalism because I was changed an article too many times. So I'll do the same if they continue change it. MANOS

I'm willing to cut you slack based on apparent age, newness, etc, but accusations of vandalism, failure to strive for WP:NPOV engaging in personal attacks is wearing that thin. You have violated our Three Revert Rule. I am giving you a fair warning. If you are unwilling to modify your behavior or atleast read our policies and guidelines, you may find yourself under a request for comment--Tznkai 19:57, 31 July 2005 (UTC)  "Manos, I am not about to waste time on the same topics over & over. If you want criticisms, why don't you read the articles themselves for now. Or go to a library or a bookstore, if you can bring yourself to open a book. Decius 19:57, 31 July 2005 (UTC)" Is this a personal attack or what? MANOS
 * Highly irrelevant. There is no excuse for personal attacks, including retaliation.--Tznkai 20:02, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

 "Highly irrelevant" Did u want him? NO. I wonder why all users warn me instead of the others? They start it. They call me child, vandal, illiterate (it wasn't the exact word) and much more. But all of u, warn me, instead of them.  So don't tell me that is irrelevant. MANOS
 * Two wrongs don't make a right Manos, and the only time I noticed this was on WP:AN3. From what I've been seeing, you're exhausting a lot of people's patience, including those trying to help you.--Tznkai 20:09, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

 "patience"??? I ask for one single thing in each post. I want these ppl to try to prove that they are right and I'm wrong. I ask for this the past 2 days. But I'm running out of patience. I want an answer. MANOS
 * The supposed correctness of your statements does not excuse your conduct or breaching WP:3RR--Tznkai 20:19, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

 I don't know what 3RR is, but that I do know is: I change an article ---> they change it back to the previous form I did that many times and they had reported me.

They change an article --> I change it back to it's original form We did that many times and they had reported me once again.

What the heck can I do, in order to not get reported. :-P MANOS
 * Read the damn WP:3RR link!--Tznkai 20:34, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Maybe later. :-P MANOS
 * If you insist on ignoring Wikipedia policy you can expect a sanction against you rather quickly.--Tznkai 20:38, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

<Br> I wont change an article before I read the rules. It's really simple. ;) MANOS

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Blaise reaction

The Blaise reaction is an organic reaction that forms a β-ketoester from the reaction of zinc metal with a α-bromoester and a nitrile. The reaction was first reported by Edmond Blaise (1872–1939) in 1901. The final intermediate is a metaloimine, which is then hydrolyzed to give the desired β-ketoester.

Bulky aliphatic esters tend to give higher yields. Steven Hannick and Yoshito Kishi have developed an improved procedure.

It has been noted that free hydroxyl groups can be tolerated in the course of this reaction, which is surprising for reactions of organometallic halides.

Mechanism
The mechanism of the Blaise reaction involves the formation of an organozinc complex with the bromine alpha to the ester carbonyl. This makes the alpha carbon nucleophilic, allowing it to attack the electrophilic carbon of the nitrile. The negative nitrile nitrogen resulting from this attack complexes with the zinc monobromide cation. The β-enamino ester (tautomer of the imine intermediate pictured above) product is revealed by work-up with 50% K2CO3 aq. If the β-ketoester is the desired product, addition of 1 M hydrochloric acid hydrolyzes the β-enamino ester to turn the enamino into a ketone, forming the β-ketoester.

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Margaret C. Anderson

Margaret Caroline Anderson (November 24, 1886 – October 19, 1973) was the American founder, editor and publisher of the art and literary magazine The Little Review, which published a collection of modern American, English and Irish writers between 1914 and 1929. The periodical is most noted for introducing many prominent American and British writers of the 20th century, such as Ezra Pound and T. S. Eliot, in the United States and publishing the first thirteen chapters of James Joyce's then-unpublished novel Ulysses.

A large collection of her papers on Gurdjieff's teaching is now preserved at Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library, Yale University.

Early life
Anderson was born in Indianapolis, Indiana, in November 1886, the eldest of three daughters of Arthur Aubrey Anderson and Jessie (Shortridge) Anderson. She graduated from high school in Anderson, Indiana, in 1903 and then entered a two-year junior preparatory class at Western College for Women in Oxford, Ohio.

1908, Chicago
In 1906, she left college at the end of her freshman year to pursue a career as a pianist. In the fall of 1908, she left home for Chicago, where she reviewed books for a religious weekly (The Continent) before joining The Dial. By 1913, she was a book critic for the Chicago Evening Post.

1914, The Little Review

In March 1914, Anderson founded the avant-garde literary magazine The Little Review during Chicago's literary renaissance. "An organ of two interests, art and good talk about art", the monthly's first issue featured articles on Nietzsche, feminism and psychoanalysis.

Early funding was intermittent, and for six months in 1914 she was forced out of her Lake Bluff residence at 837 West Ainslie Street in Chicago, as well as the magazine's offices at 410 S. Michigan Avenue in Chicago's historic Fine Arts Building. During this period, she camped with Harriet Dean, family members, and staff members on a Lake Michigan beach.

The writer Ben Hecht described her this way: "She was blond, shapely, with lean ankles and a Scandinavian face. ... I forgave her her chastity because she was a genius. During the years I knew her she wore the same suit, a tailored affair in robin's egg blue. Despite this unvarying costume she was as chic as any of the girls who model today for the fashion magazines. ... It was surprising to see a coiffure so neat on a noggin so stormy."

In 1916, Anderson met Jane Heap, a spirited intellectual and artist immersed in Chicago's Arts and Crafts Movement and a former lover of the novelist Djuna Barnes. The two became lovers, and Anderson convinced Heap to become co-editor of The Little Review. Heap maintained a low profile, signing her contributions simply "JH", but she had a major impact on the success of the journal through its bold and radical content.

For a while, Anderson and Heap published the magazine out of a ranch in Muir Woods, in the San Francisco Bay Area.

1917, New York
In 1917, Anderson and Heap moved to New York's Greenwich Village. With the help of the poet and critic Ezra Pound, who acted as Anderson's foreign editor in London, The Little Review published some of the most influential new writers in the English language, including Hart Crane, T. S. Eliot, Ernest Hemingway, James Joyce, Pound himself, and William Butler Yeats. The magazine's most published poet was the New York dadaist Baroness Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven, with whom Heap became friends on the basis of their shared confrontational feminist and artistic agendas. Other notable contributors included Sherwood Anderson, André Breton, Jean Cocteau, Malcolm Cowley, Marcel Duchamp, Ford Madox Ford, Emma Goldman, Vachel Lindsay, Amy Lowell, Francis Picabia, Carl Sandburg, Gertrude Stein, Wallace Stevens, Arthur Waley, and William Carlos Williams. Even so, however, Anderson once published an issue with a dozen blank pages to protest the temporary lack of exciting new works.

In 1918, starting with the March issue, The Little Review began serializing James Joyce's Ulysses. Over time the U.S. Post Office seized and burned four issues of the magazine, and Anderson and Heap were convicted of obscenity charges. Although the obscenity trial was ostensibly about Ulysses, Irene Gammel argues that The Little Review came under attack for its overall subversive tone and, in particular, its publication of Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven's sexually explicit poetry and outspoken defense of Joyce. During the trial in February 1921, hundreds of Greenwich Villagers, men and women, marched into Special Court Sessions; the ourcome was that Anderson and Heap were fined $100 each and fingerprinted.

1924, France
In early 1924, through Alfred Richard Orage, Anderson learned of the spiritual teacher George Ivanovitch Gurdjieff, and she saw performances of his "sacred dances", first at the Neighbourhood Playhouse and later at Carnegie Hall. Shortly after Gurdjieff's automobile accident, Anderson, along with Georgette Leblanc, Jane Heap and Monique Surrere, moved to France to visit him at Fountainebleau-Avon, where he had set up his institute at Château du Prieuré in Avon.

Anderson and Heap adopted the two sons of Anderson's ailing sister, Lois. They brought Lois and her sons, Tom and Arthur "Fritz" Peters, to Prieuré in June 1924. After they returned to New York in 1925, the two boys were taken in by Alice B. Toklas and Gertrude Stein.

In 1929, Solita Solano had an affair with Anderson, who had come to Paris with her lover, the French singer Georgette Leblanc. The affair lasted several years, though Anderson remained living with Leblanc.

In 1929, Anderson and Heap separated. That year, Heap put out the final issue of The Little Review, edited at Hotel St. Germain-Des-Pres, 36 rue Bonaparte, Paris. Afterward, Heap moved to England.

In 1935, Jane Heap moved to London, where Heap led Gurdjieff study groups until her death in 1964.

Anderson got to know Elizabeth Jenks Clark through Solita Solano after Clark returned to the US. Clark and Solano became Anderson's closest friends, although Anderson had in the meantime fallen in love with Dorothy Caruso, widow of the singer Enrico Caruso.

Later, Anderson moved to Le Cannet on the French Riviera (Cannes), to live in "le phare de Tancarville", a lighthouse. She lived there for many years with Georgette Leblanc, her sister Lois and Lois's daughter Linda Card.

Gurdjieff
The teachings of George Ivanovitch Gurdjieff played an important role in Anderson's life. Anderson met Gurdjieff in Paris and, together with Leblanc, began studies with him, focusing on his original teaching called The Fourth Way. From 1935 to 1939, Anderson and Leblanc studied with Gurdjieff as part of a group of women known as "The Rope", which included eight members in all. Besides Anderson and Leblanc, these were Jane Heap, Elizabeth Gordon, Solita Solano, Kathryn Hulme, Louise Davidson and Alice Rohrer. Along with Katherine Mansfield and Jane Heap, she remains one of the most noted disciples at Gurdjieff's Institute for the Harmonious Development of Man, at Fontainebleau, near Paris, from October 1922 to 1924.

Anderson studied with Gurdjieff in France until his death in October 1949, writing about him and his teachings in most of her books, most extensively in her memoir, The Unknowable Gurdjieff.

1942, New York
In 1942, evacuating from the war in France, Anderson sailed for the United States. With her passage paid by Ernest Hemingway, Anderson met on the voyage Dorothy Caruso, widow of the famous tenor Enrico Caruso. The two began a romantic relationship, became lovers, and lived together, in New York, until Dorothy's death in 1955.

1955, France
In 1955, Anderson returned to Le Cannet, and there she died of emphysema on October 19, 1973. She is buried beside Georgette Leblanc in the Notre Dame des Anges Cemetery.

Commemoration
Anderson was the subject of an Academy Award–nominated documentary entitled Beyond Imagining: Margaret Anderson and the "Little Review" in 1991, by Wendy L. Weinberg.

An exhibition, "Making No Compromise: Margaret Anderson and the Little Review", celebrated the life and work of Margaret Anderson and the Little Review's remarkable influence. It opened at the Beinecke Library, Yale University, in October, 2006, and ran for three months.

In 2006 Anderson and Jane Heap were inducted into the Chicago Gay and Lesbian Hall of Fame.

In 2014, Anderson was inducted into the Chicago Literary Hall of Fame.

Selected works
Anderson published a three-volume autobiography, consisting of My Thirty Years' War (1930), along with The Fiery Fountains, and The Strange Necessity, written in her last years in Le Cannet. There she also wrote her final book, the novel and memoir, Forbidden Fires.

 * 1930:.
 * 1951: The Fiery Fountains: The Autobiography: Continuation and Crisis to 1950, ISBN 0-8180-0211-5.
 * 1953: The Little Review Anthology, Hermitage House, 1953.
 * 1959: Margaret C. Anderson Correspondence with Ben and Rose Caylor Hecht.
 * 1962: The Strange Necessity: The Autobiography, ISBN 0-8180-0212-3.
 * 1962: The Unknowable Gurdjieff, memoir, dedicated to Jane Heap. 1962, Arkana. ISBN 0-14-019139-9.
 * 1996: Forbidden Fires, part memoir, part novel, Ed. by Mathilda M. Hills. ISBN 1-56280-123-6.

Archival resources

 * Margaret C. Anderson Papers, 1930-1973 (0.6 cubic feet) are housed at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee Archives Department.
 * Elizabeth Jenks Clark Collection of Margaret Anderson, 1886-1998 (17.71 linear feet) are housed at the Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library at Yale University.

Archives

 * Margaret Anderson at Library of Congress
 * Elizabeth Jenks Clark collection of Margaret Anderson papers at Yale University Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library
 * The Elizabeth Jenks Clark collection of Margaret Anderson digital collection from the Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library at Yale University
 * Florence Reynolds collection related to Jane Heap and The Little Review at Special Collections, University of Delaware Library

Images

 * Man Ray photo of Margaret Anderson

Other links

 * Margaret Anderson and the Little Review
 * The Little Review at The Modernist Journals Project
 * Gurdjieff and Anderson (Gurdjieff and the Women of The Rope)
 * "Unfolding the Corners: Intimacy in the Archive of Margaret Anderson." Netcast about the Elizabeth Jenks Clark collection of Margaret Anderson papers at Yale University Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library

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Wikipedia:Wikifun/Round 9/Answers/Question 24

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Quirky sounds like QWERTY, which was designed (according to the article) to be inefficient and slow, to prevent keys from sticking. The most common solution for this inefficiency appears to be the Dvorak Simplified Keyboard which was organized for ease and speed of typing. ESkog 17:11, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Stabbed correctly! -- AllyUnion (talk) 17:27, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


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Giovanni Gronchi

Giovanni Gronchi, (10 September 1887 – 17 October 1978) was an Italian politician from Christian Democracy who served as the president of Italy from 1955 to 1962 and was marked by a controversial and failed attempt to bring about an "opening to the left" in Italian politics. He was reputed the real holder of the executive power in Italy from 1955 to 1962, behind the various Prime Ministers of this time.

Early life and political career
He was born at Pontedera, Tuscany, and was an early member of the Christian Movement founded by the Catholic priest don Romolo Murri in 1902. He obtained his first degree in literature and philosophy at the Scuola Normale Superiore di Pisa. Between 1911 and 1915 he then worked as a high-school teacher of classics in several Italian towns (Parma, Massa di Carrara, Bergamo and Monza).

He volunteered for military service in the First World War and when it was over he became in 1919 one of the founding members of the Catholic Italian Popular Party. He was elected to represent Pisa in both the parliamentary elections of 1919 and 1921. A trade-union leader in the Italian Confederation of Christian Workers, in 1922–1923 he served in the first government of Benito Mussolini as Under-secretary for Industry and Commerce. In April 1923, however, a national meeting of the Popular Party held in Turin decided to withdraw all PPI representatives from the government. He then went back to his role in the leadership of the Catholic trade unions, and tried to face the daily violence brought against them by the fascist squads.

In 1924, after Luigi Sturzo had resigned as Secretary of the PPI, Gronchi became leader of the party, together with two other "triumvirs", (Spataro and Rodinò). Re-elected to Parliament in the same year, he joined the anti-fascist opposition of the so-called Aventine Secession (from the hill in Rome where the opposition withdrew from Parliament). In 1926 he was expelled from Parliament by the new regime.

In the years between 1925 and 1943 he thus interrupted his political career. In order to avoid having to become a member of the Fascist Party, he also resigned his position as a schoolteacher, and earned his living as a successful businessman, first as a salesman and then as an industrialist.

After the Second World War
In 1943–1944 he was a co-founder of the new Christian-Democratic party (DC), and became a leader of its left-wing faction, together with men like Giorgio La Pira, Giuseppe Dossetti and Enrico Mattei (the future boss of ENI, the Italian government-owned petrochemical giant). He was also a member of the Comitato di Liberazione Nazionale, the multi-party committee of the Italian Resistance, as a representative of his party.

Although often in conflict with his party's majority and its Secretary Alcide De Gasperi, he served as Industry minister in 1944–1946 and as a member of the Constituent Assembly in 1946. In 1947, as the Cold War began, he vehemently opposed his party's decision to expel the Italian Communist and Socialist parties from the national government. From 1948 to 1955 he was elected President of the Italian Chamber of Deputies (the lower branch of Parliament).

President (1955–1962)
In 1955 Luigi Einaudi's term as first President of the Italian Republic came to an end, and Parliament had to choose his successor. The new Secretary of the DC, Amintore Fanfani, was promoting for the job the liberal Cesare Merzagora, who was then President of the Senate. However the extreme right-wing of the party – led by Giuseppe Pella, Guido Gonella, Salvatore Scoca and Giulio Andreotti – joined hands with the trade-unionist left – led by Giovanni Pastore, Giorgio Bo and Achille Marazza – in an "uprising" against the party leadership, in order to get Giovanni Gronchi ("Parliament's man") elected instead. The move had the support of the Communist and Socialist parties, and also of the monarchic and neo-fascist right. After a bitter battle and the final crumbling of the centrist front, on 29 April 1955 Gronchi was elected President of the Republic with 658 votes out of 883. He was the first Catholic politician to become Head of the Italian State.

His period in office lasted until 1962. It was marked by the ambition to bring about a gradual "opening to the left", whereby the Socialists and the Communist Party would be brought back into the national government, and Italy would abandon NATO, becoming a non-aligned country. There was however stiff parliamentary opposition to this project, particularly by the small Italian Liberal Party, which was deemed a necessary ingredient of any viable majority.

In an attempt to escape the deadlock, in 1959 Gronchi appointed as prime minister a trusted member of his own Catholic left-wing faction, Fernando Tambroni, sending him to Parliament with a "President’s government" but no pre-arranged majority. However Tambroni found himself surviving in Parliament only thanks to neo-fascist votes. This unforeseen "opening to the right" had serious consequences. In 1960 there were bad riots in several towns of Italy, particularly at Genoa, Licata and Reggio Emilia, where the police opened fire on demonstrators, killing five people. The Tambroni government thus ended in ignominy; forced to resign, it was followed by an all-DC government, with a traditionally centrist parliamentary majority.

The unhappy Tambroni experiment tarnished Gronchi's reputation for good, and until the end of his period of office he remained a lame-duck President. In 1962 he attempted to get a second mandate, with the powerful help of Enrico Mattei, but the attempt failed and Antonio Segni was elected instead. As he ceased to be Head of State, he became a life senator by right, according to the Italian Constitution. He died in Rome on 17 October 1978 at the age of 91.

Assessment
For an overall historical assessment of his presidency, it must be kept in mind the Tambroni failure, with its suggestion of an authoritarian approach. An "opening to the left" of sorts happened soon after his mandate was over; the first centre-left coalition was formed by Aldo Moro as soon as 1964, when the Socialists (but not the Communists) entered the government. In the 1970s, the Christian Democrats and Communists made efforts toward what was called the Historic Compromise. On this basis he might be credited with some important foresight and a lasting influence. Still, it is hard to maintain that his political project had really very much to do with the center-left governments that followed each other between 1964 and 1992. During most of this period the Communists were isolated even more tightly than before, due to the loss of their former Socialist allies and the bitter conflict that followed with them, particularly after Bettino Craxi became the Socialist leader. Outside influences were later revealed to be at work as well. A 2000 Parliament Commission report concluded that the strategy and operations by the clandestine, US-supported, "stay-behind" Gladio was designed to "stop the PCI, and to a certain degree also the PSI [Italian Socialist Party], from achieving executive power in the country". In any case, Italy kept its socio-economic structure as a market economy and its foreign policy alignment.

Personal life
In 1941, Gronchi married Carla Bissatini (2 September 1912 – 14 August 1993) and had one son and one daughter.

In the Florestano Vancini's film The Assassination of Matteotti (1973), Gronchi is played by Giorgio Favretto.

Books

 * (it) Igino Giordani, Alcide De Gasperi il ricostruttore, Rome: Edizioni Cinque Lune, 1955.
 * (it) Giulio Andreotti, De Gasperi e il suo tempo, Milan: Mondadori, 1956.
 * Paul Ginsborg, A History of Contemporary Italy, Penguin Books, 1990 (lengthy account of post-war events in Italy from a rather heavily biased left-wing point of view; Gronchi's election and its peculiar political circumstances are not covered; the Tambroni affair is narrated, but Gronchi's role in it is glossed over).
 * (it) Indro Montanelli and Mario Cervi, L'Italia del Novecento, Rizzoli, 1998 (in Italian; a somewhat journalistic account of twentieth-century Italy, from a liberal point of view).
 * (it) S. Bertelli (ed.) Scritti e discorsi su Giovanni Gronchi a vent'anni dalla morte (1998), Giardini, 2000 (in Italian; mostly eulogies by old friends).
 * (it) Nico Perrone, Il segno della DC, Bari: Dedalo Libri, 2002, ISBN 88-220-6253-1.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Times of London/Best Universities

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE. Rickk's arguments are compelling. Golbez 06:27, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

The Times of London/Best Universities
This article is not encyclopedic, and I don't see any chance of it becoming so. Ranking universities is not what the Times is chiefly known for -- and even if it were, the point of WP is not to copy the content of famous works.. This probably belongs on The Times website, but not in WP. Cleduc 17:13, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge into college and university rankings as ext link. We have a precedent in that article, in that even U.S. News and World Report, who makes the best-known US college rankings, doesn't have its own article for its rankings, just a couple of paragraphs in a more general article (either way, the entire list isn't just cut and pasted into a Wikipedia article).  Also worth noting (for future voters) is that it apparently is only a list of UK universities. --Idont Havaname 17:58, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, useful list. Kappa 20:40, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, not a useful list, subpages are disparaged, and the list is the intellecutal property of the Times. RickK 23:07, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per Rick K. carmeld1 23:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Cerastium arcticum

Cerastium arcticum, the Arctic mouse-ear chickweed or Arctic mouse-ear, is a flower distributed at parts of western and southern Greenland, Baffin Island, Labrador, Iceland, Faroe Islands, Scotland, Norway and Svalbard.

It is a perennial herb that grows in tufts, sometimes loosely, generally in damp places and on open gravel. Most of the plant is pubescent, the hairs appearing stiff. Leaves are elliptical. The flowers are white, rather large, beautiful when fully expanded, single or two together. Petals are deeply notched and considerably longer than sepals.

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Channel stuffing

Channel stuffing, also known as trade loading, is a business practice in which a company, or a sales force within a company, inflates its sales figures by forcing more products through a distribution channel than the channel is capable of selling. This can be the result of a company attempting to inflate its sales figures. Alternatively, it can be a consequence of a poorly-managed sales force attempting to meet short-term objectives and quotas in a way that is detrimental to a company in the long term.

Channel stuffing has a number of long-term consequences for a company. Firstly, distributors will often return any unsold goods to the company, incurring a carrying cost and also developing a backlog of product inventory. Wildly fluctuating demand, combined with the excess inventory, leads to costly overtime and factory shutdowns. Even mild channel stuffing can spiral out of control as the sales department works to make up for prior overselling. Discounts used to drive trade loading can greatly affect profits, and even help establish gray market channels, because salespeople no longer adequately qualify their prospects.

Occasionally, distribution channels such as large retailers have been known to identify the practice of channel stuffing by their suppliers, and use the phenomenon to their advantage. That is done by holding back on orders until the end of a supplier's quota period. The supplier's sales force then panics, and sells a large amount of the product under more favorable terms than they would under ordinary circumstances. At the beginning of the next period, no new orders are placed, and, barring any action, the cycle is then repeated. That affects customers, creating gluts and shortages as buyers turn to competing products.

Corporations have been known to engage in channel stuffing and hide the activity from their investors. In the United States, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission has in some cases litigated against such corporations,  and private class-action suits have been filed. Channel stuffing might also be part of a broader pattern of financial impropriety.

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Gonna Ball

Gonna Ball is the second studio album by American rockabilly band Stray Cats, first released in the UK by Arista Records in November 1981. The album was produced by the band and Hein Hoven. It went silver in the UK.

Five of the album's tracks ("Baby Blue Eyes", "Little Miss Prissy", "You Don't Believe Me", "Rev It Up and Go" and "Lonely Summer Nights") were later included on the band's first American album, Built for Speed (1982). Only "You Don't Believe Me" charted in the UK, reaching #57.

Track listing
All tracks composed by Brian Setzer; except where indicated
 * 1) "Baby Blue Eyes" (Johnny Burnette, Paul Burlison)
 * 2) "Little Miss Prissy"
 * 3) "Wasn't That Good" (Wynonie Harris)
 * 4) "Cryin' Shame"
 * 5) "(She'll Stay Just) One More Day" (Slim Jim Phantom, Lee Rocker)
 * 6) "What's Goin' Down (Cross That Bridge)"
 * 7) "You Don't Believe Me" (Setzer, Lee Rocker)
 * 8) "Gonna Ball" (Allen Bunn)
 * 9) "Wicked Whisky"
 * 10) "Rev It Up and Go"
 * 11) "Lonely Summer Nights"
 * 12) "Crazy Mixed-Up Kid"

Personnel

 * Stray Cats
 * Brian Setzer - guitar, vocals
 * Lee Rocker - bass, vocals
 * Slim Jim Phantom - drums, vocals

 * Additional personnel
 * John Locke - keyboards
 * Steve Poncar - saxophone
 * Ian Stewart - keyboards
 * Brian McDonald - harmonica
 * Lee Allen - tenor saxophone
 * Gavin Cochrane - photography

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Galaxy Fight: Universal Warriors

Galaxy Fight: Universal Warriors (ギャラクシーファイト: ユニバーサル・ウォーリアーズ) is a fighting game originally developed and published by Sunsoft in 1995 for the Neo-Geo MVS in arcades, and then for the Neo Geo AES console. It was Sunsoft's second fighting game after their 1994 Super Famicom spin-off of their Hebereke series, Sugoi Hebereke, as well as their first side-viewed 2D fighting game.

The arcade version of Galaxy Fight uses 32 four-megabit ROM chips (a total of 16 megabytes of data). A year later in 1996, Sunsoft produced another 2D fighting game also for the Neo-Geo titled Waku Waku 7. Two years after that, in 1998, they joined a small company SANTACLAUS in producing the Sega ST-V powered arcade game Astra Superstars.

In 2017 the game was re-released under the Arcade Archives, developed by Hamster Corporation for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, followed by a Nintendo Switch version a week later.

Gameplay
Though Galaxy Fight is similar to Sunsoft's later game Waku Waku 7 (which uses the same engine), the games have few elements in common (one of them being the mid-boss, Bonus-Kun). The players choose one of eight characters and travel among the in-game solar system to defeat the opponents inhabiting each of the planets before they get the chance to fight Felden and settle their personal scores with him.

The game uses a four-button layout where the first three buttons are used for non-specified striking attacks (they can be anything ranging from punches and kicks to tail whips and bites) with each specific button yielding different strengths of attacks. The fourth button is used specifically for taunts which has no practical impact. Combining several buttons together may yield new attacks or special moves depending on the character.

There are no walls in the stages to corner players; instead, the screen can scroll indefinitely.

Playable

 * Alvan: Alvan is the "Prince of the Ruined Planet". 1,000 years ago, his planet Rozalis, was invaded and destroyed and his family was murdered by Felden. Luckily, Alvan managed to survive thanks to the magic crimson stone and challenges Felden to save the life of the few living beings that are still left in his planet. He is the game's shortest character by height and can sprout out a horn on his forehead as often shown during his intro and in his artworks. In Alvan's ending following a fierce battle between Alvan and Felden, Rozalis and its kingdom are both magically restored to its former glory, cleansed of the vanquished Felden's influence.
 * Gunter: A gigantic green-skinned fire-breathing monster of immense power from the planet Guljeff. Only he and Alvan appear to recognize G. Done's mystical nature. Gunter's fighting style is simple yet extremely violent. He is the largest character in the game. He reappears in a Beats Of Rage mod called Vampire's Rage as an enemy character.
 * Golden Done (G. Done): A mysterious brown-skinned alien in the form of an avant-garde thug from the planet Mani. Not much is known about him, except that both Alvan and Gunter were the only ones who sense upon his mystical nature. Being the less-powerful, secondary member of the two strange mythical beings, G. Done appears to be at a similar age as the omnipotent, primary Felden does. However, despite his background, he desires nothing more than his freedom in peace and is on a self-given mission regarding the reappeared tyrant, Felden himself. In G. Done's ending, the defeated Felden scornfully reminded him that if he dies, he'll wound up in the same fate as him.
 * Juri: A female thief from the planet Lezaar that is obsessed with becoming stronger and more beautiful, she despises those she considers ugly. In her ending, Juri, having emerged victorious, speaks to the defeated Felden that if he's not strong nor beautiful, he will face such consequences. Not only that Juri will be stronger and more beautiful, but good fortune will soon belong to her.
 * Kazuma: a samurai who also lives in Airrass. Also called "The Raging Storm", Kazuma travels with Rolf in his adventures throughout the galaxy, looking for powerful warriors, seeking to be stronger and continue with the tradition of the martial arts of his family.
 * Musafar: Musafar is an enormous robot built by the Fakir Empire. His objective is to defeat all the warriors and get their unique abilities so that his Empire can take over the Galaxy. In his ending, Musafar travels back to his home planet intent on destroying the Empire, having recalled upon his apprehension and conversion into a robotic soldier tasked to collect and imitate techniques from the opponents. He is the second largest albeit the strongest of the playable characters.
 * Rolf: The game's leading character. The self-proclaimed "Hero of the Galaxy" living in the planet Airrass. He fights in a battle suit that resembles a 20th-century space suit sans helmet, equipped with a short-range flamethrower, jetpack, small energy pistol, and an ear-mounted single-eye visor. His main goal was to defeat Felden and avenge the death of his three friends.
 * Roomi: Roomi is an alien from the planet Lutecia. She has the special power to sense her opponent's feelings before they attack. She is ditsy, childish girl and her dream is to become popular, like Juri. During the course of the game, Rolf is commissioned by her father to bring her back home. In her ending, she becomes a singer that doubles as a fighter.

Non-Playable/Bosses

 * Bonus Kun: Rouwe's own punching bag that has come to life. Rouwe has taught him basic fighting techniques. Bonus-Kun is a homage/parody of Ryu from Street Fighter.
 * Yacopu: Yacopu is Rouwe's pet rabbit and the game's midboss, fought before Felden. He originated from the Nintendo Game Boy title, Trip World. He has the ability to shape-shift into whoever he fights against, providing a mirror match.
 * Felden: The final boss of the game (excluding Rouwe). He is a being composed of golden flame with a fiery blue crown. When facing Alvan, Felden reveals that he was the one who placed the curse on Alvan's planet.
 * Rouwe: A special boss that appears only if a player beats the game without losing a round. He was apparently responsible for the death of Kazuma's father. His punching bag became the character Bonus-kun and was playable in Waku Waku 7.

Ports and related releases
Galaxy Fight: Universal Warriors was later ported to the Neo-Geo AES home console, which includes easy-to-access difficulty settings and limited credits. Its next port was the Neo-Geo CD version, which was ported by Sunsoft and features some of the same features as the Neo-Geo AES version, but with arranged background music. This version was later ported to the Sega Saturn and released worldwide. Later, a Sony PlayStation port was released in Japan and Europe. In 2008, the Neo-Geo CD version of Galaxy Fight: Universal Warriors was included with the Neo-Geo AES version of Sunsoft's other fighting game Waku Waku 7 in Vol.11 of the Neo Geo Online Collection series for the Sony PlayStation 2, titled Sunsoft Collection (サンソフトコレクション). While the Neo-Geo CD soundtrack of Galaxy Fight: Universal Warriors was added in this version, the soundtrack of Waku Waku 7 is completely different from the unreleased Neo-Geo CD version that was later ported to the Sega Saturn. SNK was unable to add the Neo-Geo CD / Sega Saturn version of the soundtrack because of licensing issues. The Neo-Geo AES home console version of Galaxy Fight: Universal Warriors was later ported to the Wii Virtual Console in Japan by D4 Enterprise on March 23, 2010 and on the Nintendo Switch eShop worldwide on May 18, 2017.

Soundtrack
A soundtrack album of the Neo-Geo version was released by Pony Canyon and Scitron Label on March 17, 1995 exclusively in Japan under the catalog number PCCB-00177. It contains nearly every background music, as well as sound effects and voice samples from the arcade version. It was composed by Masato Araikawa and Takayuki Sasaki, and performed by Jun Kojime.

Reception
In Japan, Game Machine listed Galaxy Fight: Universal Warriors on their March 15, 1995 issue as being the fourteenth most-popular arcade game at the time. The game received generally positive reception from critics since its release in arcades and other platforms,   though some criticized the harsh level of difficulty and other design aspects. According to Famitsu, the Neo Geo CD version sold over 13,385 copies in its first week on the market.

AllGames Kyle Knight praised the audiovisual presentation and controls, regarding it as a decent fighting game but stated that "Galaxy Fights odd borderless gameplay may be its worst enemy, as many gamers will simply find the gameplay too odd and difficult to get used to." Consoles Plus' Richard Homsy commended the visual presentation, gameplay speed, audio and playability. GameFan's four reviewers praised the unique character roster and fighting mechanic, comparing the title's zooming effect with that of Art of Fighting. GamePro gave the Neo Geo version a positive review. They complimented the graphics, music, and the way each attack is suited to its particular character, but added that the game lacks the originality and polish to reach true greatness, concluding that "Galaxy Fight will definitely whet the appetite of fighters everywhere. But it doesn't provide the Big Bang needed to unseat Mortal or Killer in the arcades." Hobby Consolas' Javier Castellote gave positive remarks to the visuals, sound and gameplay but criticized the lack of additional characters and speed of each character, as well as their small size when compared to other Neo Geo fighters.

MAN!AC's Andreas Knauf criticized the careless technical presentation, regarding Galaxy Fight as a poor conventional fighting game lacking in gameplay innovations, though he commended the characters and their special attacks. Mega Fun's Stefan Hellert felt mixed in regards to the audiovisual presentation, stating that "The graphics don't even begin to use the capabilities of the Neo Geo, because apart from the admittedly absolutely fluid zoom effects and the fast course of the game, Galaxy Fight doesn't offer anything that a SNES couldn't do." Micromanía's C.S.G. reviewed the Neo Geo CD version and compared the game with both Fatal Fury 3 and Savage Reign. He praised the technical presentation and borderless gameplay but criticized the small character roster. Última Generación's Gonzalo Herrero also reviewed the Neo Geo CD version, comparing its space setting with Cosmic Carnage, and praised the audiovisual presentation as well.

The Sega Saturn conversion was met with a more mixed response from reviewers for being a straightforward conversion of the original arcade game. However, fan reception was positive; Readers of the Japanese Sega Saturn Magazine voted to give the Saturn port a 7.4698 out of 10 score, ranking at the number 526 spot, indicating a popular following. GameFan's four reviewers commended it for being a faithful port of the arcade original but criticized the gameplay. Next Generation reviewed the Saturn version several months after the game's release, asserting that the title "looks and plays like an average Neo-Geo fighter." In contrast, Player One's Christophe Delpierre gave positive remarks to the Saturn port in regards to audiovisual presentation and gameplay.

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Roman Catholic?
Is John a Catholic? Having read the Big Book of Martyrs which he wrote, it seemed to promote a very pro-Catholic stance. Is he religious? Would it be worth adding to the article? Magic Pickle 01:27, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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Nationality.
According to this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsD7E454t0A Wagner says he does not hold British citizenship but American and how he is trying to change it due to them taxing him unfairly and how he feels no loyalty to the US. Does anyone have any sources explicitly stating he has British citizenship otherwise change it over? 31.52.167.212 (talk) 17:45, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

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Rapid River, Michigan

Rapid River is an unincorporated community in Masonville Township, Delta County in the U.S. state of Michigan.

It is situated on the northern end of the Little Bay de Noc between the mouths of the Tacoosh and Rapid rivers with the mouth of the Whitefish River just to the east. U.S. Highway 2 (US 2) passes through Rapid River and joins with US 41 just west of town; the two then run concurrently from Rapid River south to Escanaba. The Rapid River ZIP code is 49878 and also serves areas in the nearby townships in Delta County of Baldwin, Bay de Noc, Brampton, Ensign, Garden, Maple Ridge, Masonville, and Nahma. It also serves a small area in Mathias Township in Alger County

The community was first named Rapid Siding as a stop on the Minneapolis, St. Paul and Sault Ste. Marie Railroad, and subsequently renamed for the nearby river. The name was recorded as Rapid River when the community was platted in 1887. The community never incorporated as a village.

Rapid River has a rich history that spans centuries which included Native American tribe Ojibwe and was also once a thriving logging town with businesses lining Main Street (then called Broadway Street). The first sawmill in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan was built along the Rapid River in 1835. The Ojibwe people called the river known as "Rapid River" by the name Waishka. Today a few of the original buildings remain from over 130 years ago. One of the buildings, The Swallow Inn, was built in the 1890s which used to be a boarding house and has been a restaurant and bar for over a hundred years. Another is The Rapid River Pub, while having many different names over the years, this building also was built in the 1890s and was a hotel, restaurant, and bar and continues to be a restaurant and bar.

One scene from the 2001 film Escanaba in da Moonlight was shot in the Swallow Inn, a bar in Rapid River.

Public schools in Rapid River are administered by the Rapid River Schools, the area's school district. The high school's athletic teams are known as the "Rockets". The school's 8-man varsity football team won Division 2 of the Michigan State Championship in 2018.

Fire coverage is provided by the Masonville Township Volunteer Fire Department and Ensign Township Volunteer Fire Department. Emergency Medical Services are provided by the Masonville Township Volunteer EMS service which provide non-transport Basic Life Support services.

Indian Trails provides daily intercity bus service between St. Ignace and Ironwood, Michigan.

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Würselen

Würselen (, Ripuarian: Wöschele ) is a town in the borough of Aachen, in North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany.

Geography
Würselen lies north of the city of Aachen in the immediate vicinity of the tripoint of Belgium, Germany and the Netherlands. Its neighbouring settlements are, in clockwise order, the towns of Herzogenrath, Alsdorf and Eschweiler and the city of Aachen. Würselen is part of Aachen's Nordkreis quarter and is the only part of the city borough without external boundaries.

Subdivisions
As part of the administrative reform in North Rhine-Westphalia and the related 1971 Aachen Act, the territory of the borough of Würselen was expanded in 1972 to incorporate the hitherto independent municipalities of Bardenberg and Broichweiden. Since then Würselen has consisted of the following quarters:

 * Bardenberg
 * Broichweiden
 * Würselen

These are subdivided in turn into the following parishes:

Coat of arms
The coat of arms show the eagle of the coat of arms of Aachen in the topleft corner. The second quarter shows the coat of arms of the Rhine Province, however the bend also represents the river Wurm which flows through the town. The mining tools in the third quarter remember the mining history of the town, which dates back till the 12th century. The cross in the fourth quarter is the symbol of the prince-bishopric of Cologne, as the town belonged to the archdiocese of Cologne until the creation of the diocese of Aachen.

History
During the time of the Roman Empire, Roman soldiers were based at Würselen, on an area today known as "Mauerfeldchen" (small mural field).

The first mention of the town was as Wormsalt in 870. Between 1265-69, Duke Wilhelm IV of Jülich built the castle of Wilhelmstein. Since 1616 the town has been known as Würselen. In 1972, the neighbouring municipalities of Bardenberg and Broichweiden were incorporated into the town.

Twin towns – sister cities
Würselen is twinned with:

 * 🇩🇪 Hildburghausen, Germany
 * 🇫🇷 Morlaix, France
 * 🇧🇫 Réo, Burkina Faso
 * 🇮🇹 Campagnatico, Italy
 * 🇨🇳 Ruichang, China

Notable people

 * Jakob Dautzenberg (1897–1979), politician (KPD), resistance fighter against national socialism, Reichstag deputy
 * Adolf Wamper (1901–1977), sculptor, created the Black Madonna in the War Crimes Camp 'Golden Mile'
 * Jupp Derwall (1927–2007), football player and manager
 * Jupp Kapellmann (born 1949), footballer
 * Martin Schulz (born 1955), former leader of the Social Democratic Party of Germany, former President of the European Parliament, was Mayor of Würselen
 * Nadine Capellmann (born 1965), dressage rider
 * Der Graf (born 1970s), frontman and songwriter of the band Unheilig
 * Roland Bartetzko (born 1970), soldier, charged with murder, attempted murder and terrorism
 * Torsten Frings (born 1976), footballer
 * Norman Langen (born 1985), percussionist
 * Yannick Gerhardt (born 1994), footballer
 * Achim Großmann (1947-2023), politician

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Lake County Railroad

The Lake County Railroad was a railroad based in Lakeview, Oregon, United States, owned by the Lake County government and operated by various contract operators during its 20-year existence. The county-owned line running from Lakeview, OR to Alturas, CA is now leased to Nexxt Rail LLC and operated as the Goose Lake Railway LLC since Summer 2017.

Traffic

 * Lumber
 * Perlite
 * Wood chips

History
The line was originally part of the narrow gauge Nevada–California–Oregon Railway (NCO) and was constructed around 1908. In 1926 the NCO became an operating subsidiary of the Southern Pacific Railroad (SP). By 1929 the NCO was entirely operated by the SP.

In March 1985 the SP filed to abandon the line and the abandonment was approved 5 months later. The county stepped in to save the route, vital to local businesses and the state legislature enacted a law permitting local governments to own railroads outside of the state, and then the Oregon State Lottery agreed to fund up to 85% of the purchase price if the county could find an operator. The county went to work, and the Great Western Railway, an established shortline based out of Colorado, agreed to operate the line on a contract basis. Lake County purchased the line from SP on January 18, 1986, to keep the line open.

The LCR began operations on November 1, 1997, when it took over the 54.45 mi formerly operated by the Great Western Railway of Colorado under contract. The county operated the rail line on precarious financial footing with frequent derailments and grants needed for maintenance funding.

The line was leased in 2005 to the Modoc Northern Railroad. During the Modoc Northern years, a lot of investment was made in rail infrastructure to shore up the line and try to eliminate the frequent derailments that plagued the route, but train speed was still limited to 10 mph (16 km/h) for most of the line.

Following the Modoc Northern's failure in 2009, Lake County contracted with Frontier Rail, who operated the Lake County line from Lakeview to Alturas, as well as the Union Pacific's line from Alturas to Perez, CA, as the LRY LLC (d.b.a Lake Railway). Lake County subsequently terminated the lease with Frontier Rail in September 2017 after a lengthy contractual dispute and litigation. Lake County subsequently contracted with the current operator Nexxt Rail LLC, who continues to operate the Lake County-owned Lakeview to Alturas line as Goose Lake Railway LLC. The Alturas to Perez UP-owned line segment reverted to operation by UP at the end of 2019.

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Angel hair (folklore)

Angel hair, siliceous cotton, or Mary's yarn is a sticky, fibrous substance reported in connection with UFO sightings, or manifestations of the Virgin Mary. It has been described as being like a cobweb or a jelly.

It is named for its similarity to fine hair, and in some cases, the substance has been found to be the web threads of migrating spiders. Reports of angel hair say that it disintegrates or evaporates within a short time of forming. Angel hair is an important aspect of the UFO religion Raëlism, and one theory among ufologists is that it is created from "ionized air sleeting off an electromagnetic field" that surrounds a UFO.

Sightings
There have been many reports of falls of angel hair around the world. Angel hair was reported at the Miracle at Fatima on 13 September and 13 October 1917.

The most widely reported incidence occurred in Oloron, France in 1952, when "great flakes" were reported as falling from a nearly cloudless sky. On October 27, 1954, Gennaro Lucetti and Pietro Lastrucci reported standing on the balcony of a hotel in St. Mark's Square in Venice and seeing two "shining spindles" flying across the sky leaving a trail of the angel hair.

In New Zealand and Australia, local newspapers have reported many sightings since the 1950s, although many have been identified as spider webs after analysis. An incident was reported in Polonnaruwa, Sri Lanka on October 20, 2014.

Published explanations
Explanations based on known phenomena include:
 * Some types of spiders are known to migrate through the air, sometimes in large numbers, on cobweb gliders. Many cases of angel hair were found to be these spider threads and, in one occasion, small spiders have been found on the material. Linyphiidae spiders frequently cause showers of gossamer threads in England and the Northern hemisphere. Australia and New Zealand have frequent cases, caused by several native species of spiders and by some introduced species of Linyphiidae.
 * In Évora, Portugal, on November 2, 1959, a substance described as angel hair was collected and analyzed under a microscope by a local school director and later by armed forces technicians and scientists of the University of Lisbon. The scientists concluded that the angel hair was likely produced by a small insect of an unknown species or perhaps some kind of single-celled organism.
 * Atmospheric electricity may cause floating dust particles to become polarized, and attraction between these polarized dust particles may cause them to join together, to form long filaments.
 * On two occasions samples were sent for testing. On October 13, 1917, a sample found at Cova da Iria was sent to Lisbon and on October 17, 1957, another sample found at Cova da Iria was examined. The analysis found this to be natural, consisting of white flakes. When put under a microscope it was found to be a vegetable product not animal.

Unscientific explanations based on beliefs regarding Unidentified Flying Objects include: Explanations based on folklore include:
 * Ionized air may be sleeting off the electromagnetic field that surrounds a UFO.
 * Excess energy converted into matter.
 * The usage by UFOs of a G-field would cause heavy atoms in ordinary air to react among themselves and produce a kind of precipitate that falls to the ground and disappears as the ionization decreases.

 * During the ascension of the Virgin Mary, her veil was torn and spread throughout the air, leading to the title of Mary's yarn.

Angel grass
"Angel grass" is a related phenomenon. It is when short metallic threads fall from the sky, often forming intertwined loose masses. They are a type of chaff, a radar counter-measure which can be in the form of fine strands, which is dropped by some military aircraft. It can also come from sounding rockets and balloons, which would have released it at high altitude for radar tracking.

Literature

 * William R. Corliss: Tornados, Dark Days, Anomalous Precipitation, and related weather phenomena (The Sourcebook Project, 1983), pages 60 to 62, GWF8: Prodigious Falls of Web-Like Material.

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Fabula

Fabula may refer to:

 * Fabula, Latin word for a fable
 * Fabula, Latin word for a play (see Theatre of ancient Rome)
 * Fabula atellana, Attelan farce
 * Fabula palliata, Roman comedy in a Greek setting
 * Fabula togata, Roman comedy in a Roman setting
 * Fabula crepidata, Roman tragedy in a Greek setting
 * Fabula praetexta, Roman tragedy in a Roman setting
 * Fabula saltata, Roman pantomime (dancer accompanied by song)
 * Fabula, Law Latin for a contract or covenant
 * Fabula and syuzhet, terms in Russian formalism
 * Fabula (moth), genus of moths
 * Fabula Award, Slovenian literary award
 * Fabula (journal), a multilingual journal in folkloristics

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Talk:Ice Cold in Alex

Request for help
Help me !!!!! Does anyone out there know what happened to the real sister Denise Norton (where she is buried etc.) and does anyone know what happened to Captain Anson and sister Diane Murdoch? Did they get together in real life? What happened to them, and where are they now? One last thing: what happened to Katy the Austin K2Y ambulance? Is it in a museum somewhere or on a scrap heap? Any help or info you have may prove very helpful. e-mail me at mrbiscuits13@hotmail.com with as much as you know.

Thank you.

"Real"?
The novel doesn't suggest that it's based on fact (at least, not my copy) Captain Pedant (talk) 22:51, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I think at the beginning of the film it states it's based on a true story but doesn't explain which parts of the story.Owain meurig (talk) 12:02, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Possible reference
John Mills himself has told the story of getting 'plastered' many times. One of the most recent was on the TV chat-show 'Parkinson' just before his death in 2005.

84.130.120.46 22:40, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Possible additions
Can anyone confirm (or deny) either of these possible additions?

 * 'Katy' was a generic name for K2 ambulances, not the name of the specific ambulance; the name 'Katie' or 'Katy' often appears associated with the name—but of course a lot of people have seen the film... (But note that an earlier version of this page had "The ambulance is nicknamed Katy. Contrary to misconceptions, it is not a pun on the type, an Austin K2/Y, but the name given by its original driver in the novel. Many World War II ambulances were named after wives and girlfriends."  This was later removed.)
 * If true, then the first paragrahh of 'Plot needs a change.

 * Originally when I viewed this page, someone had put the line about the ambulance being nicknamed Katy as it was a K2/Y, and I changed it by adding the "Contrary..." line. The current addition that 'Katy was a generic name' is incorrect - the novel makes this clear as do many other sources on military vehicles in WW2 - squaddies simply named them after women they knew etc. The novel notes that in this instance it got its name from a sweetheart at home. --Poodler (talk) 15:19, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

 * The film-makers in fact mounted the body of an Austin K2/Y on twoItalic text Canadian Military Pattern 4x4 chassis (hence apparently why the front wheels spin in the quicksand scene). 'These two ambulances were used in different locations in the Libyan Desert near the viilage of Mizdah south of Tripoli. All the other K2/Y ambulances seen in the film, belonged to 35 Field Ambulance RAMC, a unit based in Tripoli during the Suez crisis. (additional information by tcaptrasc who was present during some of the filming).':quota 09:56, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

 * For the moment, I've edited the Katy bit to "the crew of an Austin K2/Y ambulance, which they call 'Katy'", which hedges our bets about whether it's specific or generic. Any kind of "contrary to misconceptions ..." editorial would need a published source, otherwise it gets into WP:NOR territory. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 15:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Surely the 'published source' is the only source in this case -- the novel. It's quite clear, there:

"My official name is A1079654, Ambulance, Austin, K2 ... But I have always been called KATY. ... my one and only driver ... he painted my name on the bonnet in England...". (Page 110.) quota (talk) 20:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Certainly. I just mean the "contrary to misconceptions" phrase, which is unsourced editorialising unless there's a source saying that there have been misconceptions. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 12:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Is it worth mentioning that 'van der Poel' is renamed from 'Zimmerman', his name in the novel? Captain Pedant (talk) 22:53, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Segment "Lifted"?
The article says: Carlsberg simply lifted the segment in which Mills contemplates the freshly poured lager in the clearly Carlsberg-branded glass, before downing it in one go and declaring, "Worth waiting for!" This was followed by a variation in the usual Carlsberg tag-line: "Still probably the best lager in the world."

How could Carlsberg simply "lift" the segment? Was the film out of copyright, or did Carlsberg pay for the segment? The article should clarify this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.255.194.210 (talk) 18:45, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

 * It means that they took a single sequence from the film and used it in its entirety, not altering/re-editing it as Holsten had. It certainly has nothing to do with the film's copyright status at the time, since it will not be public domain in the UK until at least 2073. Nick Cooper (talk) 11:42, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

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Plot Clarification
As written, the article misses the point that on arrival in Alexandria, but before the bar scene, Anson informs the Military Police senior officer off-screen that Van Der Poel is a regular German soldier who they met lost in the desert and who has surrendered to them and given his parole (word of honour), securing the MP's agreement to allow them to enjoy a beer with their captive before taking him into custody as a prisoner of war. Without this subterfuge, "Van der Poel" would be shot as a spy. I've added this element to the description. AKarley (talk) 16:13, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

 * You are correct, that is why when they are enjoying their beers in the bar upon their arrival in Alexandria, Pugh, upon noticing Van der Poel's false South African dog tags, surreptitiously removes them before anyone outside of their small team notices. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.172.235 (talk) 11:37, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Lovers
Two of the actors in this film, the co-star Harry Andrews and the supporting actor Basil Hoskins, were in real life romantically involved; although I've no information as to whether they had met before this film. Conceivably they may have met on location. Even more remarkably, to my knowledge this has never been mentioned before in any discussion of this film.

Nuttyskin (talk) 16:04, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * If you can cite a reliable source then this could be added to the Harry Andrews and Basil Hoskins articles. In my view this would not merit mention in this article. I am sure many actors have off-stage romances that have no relevance to the films in which they appear. Verbcatcher (talk) 23:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

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adopt me?
I have come to learn that special interest groups hire students and agents to promote their viewpoint on wikipedia. This might be promoting a firm or a single person, or promoting an entire idea, or slandering the opposition. Combatting this and 'keeping' Wikipedia value-free and fair is very difficult, because when funds are large enough these agents can learn the rules, start Wikilawyering, become Admin, and influence innocent wikipedia editors who are a bit naive and follow the herd. Money can buy a large herd.

I would be happy to learn how to help wikipedia counter these practices. Who will help me? --Mick2 (talk) 12:31, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * WE are not a herd. No way. C'ant see paid editors making it though the grueling process of becoming admins:)Charles (talk) 22:05, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

I am not saying that the wiki community is a herd, Charlesdrakew. I am saying that if one's budget for influencing wikipedia would be hundreds of millions of dollars, it could entertain a lot of editors, and form a corrupt herd inside wikipedia. This herd, speaking in unison or arguing about details but working towards a common goal, could influence genuine editors greatly. That's how I meant it. --Mick2 (talk) 03:57, 15 September 2018 (UTC) ... The most talented of such a huge herd could make it to admin, I have no doubt about that. It's what James Bond would do.
 * It hurts me when wikipedia is denounced. I think wikipedia has a lot of quality, and is in fact the highest quality in general. But not all think as I do and I would like to keep improving wikipedia's performance: This was sent to me by a friend, telling me wikipedia is a waste of time (which I do not agree with). --Mick2 (talk) 06:15, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_nYrlwCdaA Wikipedia is 'astroturf' (corporate and special interest fake grass roots), from 4'05 minutes and 8'25 minutes.
 * That is why Wikipedia is not a democracy, so that weight of numbers cannot overpower those who are going with reliable sources.Charles (talk) 09:04, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * You seem to be convinced that wikipedia's procedures make it immune to serious manipulation, am I correct? --Mick2 (talk) 19:34, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Looking for someone to adopt me. Will appreciate if you do. Thanks. LtRisen (talk) 12:03, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * And don't use edit summaries like this .  Acroterion   (talk)   03:23, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Luc_Montagnier#February_2023 Talk:Luc_Montagnier Mick2 (talk) 20:15, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Edit warring at Luc Montagnier
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 * please reconsider. See the edit comment. Mick2 (talk) 20:47, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Follow WP:BRD and discuss this on the talk page. Never edit war. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 20:49, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

March 2023
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Years-long history of WP:NOTHERE from User:Mick2. Thank you. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). 21:18, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Courcelles (talk) 21:31, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

 * I think you have lost the way somewhere, and are now at the border of North-Korea. Mick2 (talk) 12:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

title: User talk:Mick2