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Justices of the Peace in Minnesota
It appears that someone had previously drafted an entry suggesting that any private wedding officiant in Minnesota is commonly called or understood to be a "Justice of the Peace". This is not correct. The office of the Justice of the Peace was abolished by law in 1977 and no private individual should claim the title of a public official. Under State law, certain public officials as well as credentialed clergy may serve to solemnize marriages. In addition, the previous entry made extraneous claims about the status of the Justice of Peace which were not substantiated by any valid source nor supported by law. I deleted the invalid claims and inserted a statement as supported by statutory citations. LAWinans (talk) 00:33, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Page move
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved.

 * Citations on the "correctness" of the uncapitalised usage, please. Alai 03:24, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Impossible. The only thing that can be done is to write Georgia guy 14:11, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I've corrected this to the "possible" move, which I assume is the intent: LC the P.  I'm still not convinced of the merits of that and that shows, however...  Alai 16:32, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Agree. Like any other personal title, it is only capitalised when actually used as the introduction or prefix to someone's name. For example, we can talk about an lieutenant governor, but it would be not capitalised it unless it was referring to "Lieutenant Governor Judy Smith".   –radiojon 02:56, 2005 Jun 11 (UTC)
 * Oppose. It's an official title, sadsadsadsaasdsaddsdsddgfdsfd and so should be capitalised. Proteus (Talk) 14:10, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * British convention is to capitalise. Seeing as the article is mainly about the origins of this ancient office in England and its continued existence in England and elsewhere in the Commonwealth, this should be respected Andrew Yong 16:37, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose, as per Andrew Yong. Unless we have a crushingly clear stylistic convention to the contrary, which AFAIK, we don't.  Alai 17:10, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Accuracy question
Are all Justices of the Peace in all the countries mentioned appointed by commission? I would expect some in the US to be appointed by a local executive, or elected. -- Beland 02:36, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Partial answer: In Australia, JPs in NSW are appointed by commission. I believe this is also the case in Victoria, and not the case in Queensland. Happy to stand corrected! --Chrisrowland 04:10, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Marriage?
I know that Justices of the Peace in the U.S. were formerly entitled to conduct weddings. Is this still the case? The article says very little about the powers of U.S. Justices of the Peace. --85.74.166.150 22:54, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Agreed. I actually came here looking for that very question. More information should be included for Justices of the Peace in the United States. --99.157.108.248 (talk) 17:13, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

order
It is curious that the order of this article does not start with the United Kingdom - and more specifically England, where Justices of the Peace originated. They are in fact one of England's most important social developments, as the qualification for office was that the Justices owned land. It was not enough simply to be wealthy. Consequently, local legal and administrative power resided in the landed gentry, which contributed greatly to social stability and no doubt conservatism, and partly explains why in the United Kingdon, the landed gentry today are still regarded as of a higher social standing than those who are merely wealthy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Herrylaw (talk • contribs) 08:51, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes it is still the case, at least in Minnesota. (reference: my married friends and the justice who married them). thx1138 13:39, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Merge

 * Strong oppose as to moving the "Magistrate" page or combining it with "Justice of the Peace." They are distinctly different offices in the U.S., and should each have their own pages.  User:Elendil's Heir 11:20pm EST, 9 April 2006.
 * Oppose, same reasons. Pmadrid 22:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose. per above. -Aude ( talk | contribs ) 23:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose as Magistrate can mean very different animals Fastifex 13:23, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose as per Fastifex. Not all magistrates are justices of the peace, e.g. stipendiary magistrates elsewhere in the Commonwealth (English stipes are now district judges), magistrates in civil law systems, various Roman officials, etc. Andrew Yong 13:10, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose They are simply different. Magistrates, in australia, are professional lawyers appointed like judges to lower level courts, esp the Federal Magistrates Court.  JPs are citizens who perform limited roles, such as issueing warrants, but usually just witnessing docs.  In some states they grant bail if a Mag is not available, and rarely 2 JPs in the country can, in theory, hear a minor criminal case.

Changes log
Took off some graffiti. There may have been some extra stuff removed when the graffiti was added. Hopefully the article is still complete. Andrewdoane 21:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Userbox available
--One Salient Oversight 11:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Clean up request
Nothing major needed - probably just needs sections identifying better, e.g. the Australian States are same size font as Australia, countries aren't really geographical or alphabetical - it could just look neater. Ianguy 03:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Request to add citations for verification
In "Australia" section, this article mentioned:

(paragraph 2) "Generally speaking, a justice of the peace cannot act in relation to a document which is to be used in a foreign country"

(paragraph 3) "Documents which are to be used in a foreign country that does not provide for a foreign JP to witness them should be dealt with by a notary public"

I don't live in Australia, and I am not sure the accuracy of these two sentences. I added 2 "fact" tag for these 2 sentances. It would be great help if anyone adds the citation for these sentences.

Thanks --Wolfch (talk) 05:21, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * These sentences are removed--Wolfch (talk) 14:37, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

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English speaking world bias
Funny how this article is written with the english speaking world, even Common Wealth, world of view assumption in mind.

Next to no mention whereabouts in the world the concept of JP has any meaning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.93.224.103 (talk) 08:15, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Justice de paix
Hello, we have on the French wiki a page dedicated to the justice of peace (Justice de paix). If someone is gifted on Wikipedia it would be interested in making the link! --Ybourgogne (talk) 07:50, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

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Craterellus cornucopioides

Craterellus cornucopioides, or horn of plenty, is an edible mushroom found in North America and Eurasia. It is also known as the black chanterelle, black trumpet, trompette de la mort (French), trompeta de la mort (Catalan) or trumpet of the dead.

Etymology
The Cornucopia, in Greek mythology, referred to the magnificent horn of the nymph Amalthea's goat (or of herself in goat form), that filled itself with whatever meat or drink its owner requested. It has become the symbol of plenty.

A possible origin for the name "trumpet of the dead" is that the growing mushrooms were seen as being played as trumpets by dead people under the ground.

It is one of several species that may be called djondjon in Haitian.

Description
The fruiting body is shaped like a funnel expanded at the top, the stalk seamless with the cap, which is .5-7 cm in diameter. They grow up to about 10 cm tall, exceptionally 15 cm. The upper and inner surface is black or dark grey, and rarely yellow. The lower and outer fertile surface is a much lighter shade of grey. The fertile surface is more or less smooth but may be somewhat wrinkled.

The size of the elliptical spores is in the range 10–17 μm × 6–11 μm. The basidia are two-spored.

Similar species
Craterellus cornucopioides has a smooth spore-bearing surface, but the rare, distantly related Cantharellus cinereus has rudimentary gills. The colour and smooth undersurface make C. cornucopioides very distinctive.

The forms Craterellus fallax (with a different spore colour en masse) and C. konradii (with a yellowish fruiting body) have been defined as separate species, but DNA studies now show that the latter should be considered part of C. cornucopioides.

Distribution and habitat
This fungus is found in woods in North America, Europe, East Asia, and Australia. In the American Pacific Northwest, it grows from November to March. It mainly grows under beech, oak or other broad-leaved trees, especially in moss in moist spots on heavy calcareous soil. In Europe it is generally common but seems to be rare in some countries such as the Netherlands. It appears from June to November, and in the United Kingdom, from August to November. In Australia, they grow in rainforest gullies, often associated with Northofagus sp., appearing from January to May.

Because the mushroom tends to be blackish, it easily blends in with leaf litter on the forest floor. Some who hunt the species say it is like looking for black holes in the ground.

Uses
Despite their unpalatable appearance, horns of plenty are edible and choice. According to a Portuguese study, 100 grams of dried C. cornucopioides contain 69.45 g of protein, 13.44 g of carbohydrates (mostly mannitol, a sugar alcohol) and 4.88 g of fat, amounting to 378 calories. They contain fatty acids, primarily of the polyunsaturated variety, as well as phenols, flavonoids and 87 mg of vitamin C. Along with Cantharellus cibarius (golden chanterelles) they are also a significant source of biologically active vitamin B12, containing 1.09–2.65 μg/100 g dry weight.

When dried, C. cornucopioides acquires black truffle notes; in this form it can be crumbled as a condiment.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joel Gretsch

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 14:52, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

Joel Gretsch
Is being the son-in-law of William Shatner sufficiently notable? I abstain for now but want to hear what others think. Emiao 02:48, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep/Expand he's starred in a couple tv series. IMDB --Etacar11 02:54, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Seems like a notable stage/tv actor from this biography but it's also pretty much copyvio of that site. Being someone's son-in-law is not very relevant. Kappa 02:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I would vote keep if not a copyvio. Capitalistroadster 10:28, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * If this article is not a copyvio, I would vote
 * Keep but cleanup if the article is about the actor Joel Gretsch
 * Delete if this is about Joel Gretsch as William Shatner's son-in-law. Aecis 10:33, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * It's too hard to tell. What's there now looks like a genealogical database entry or a theatre register, rather than an article of any sort.  I agree with Aecis that if the rewrite takes the POV of the relation, then this should just be a redirect to William "the Bard" Shatner, but if it's an actor bio, then it can be kept.  The end verdict is, I suppose, send to clean up, with VfD pasted onto its talk page. Geogre 12:14, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep but rewrite to emphasize his own acting career, not his family relationships. He is one of the principal actors on the television show The 4400 which will be airing another season this summer. --Metropolitan90 18:45, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. We need to stop using VfDs to deal with every cleanup issue. Now we're even getting VfD nominations from people who don't want a deletion! That wastes everybody's time. Here's some cleanup processes that you can start with much less fuss:
 * 1) Research and rewrite yourself.
 * 2) Start a discussion on the article's talk page. Previous editors will see this (if they still have the page on their watch lists) and maybe respond.
 * 3) Slap on an appropriate dispute, maintenance, or cleanup tag, which will bring the article to the attention of people who like to look after such things.
 * Isaac R 20:11, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * It's not a requirement. If you have issues with the way VfD is being used, discuss it on the VfD Talk page.  Don't use a particular article's vote to attack the nominator or the process.  This is Iasson territory.  RickK 21:39, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
 * See rewritten version. --Metropolitan90 02:55, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep notable shatner. Klonimus 03:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep ··gracefool |☺ 03:38, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.  Please do not edit this page .


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Omaha Sessions

Omaha Sessions is an album released by 311 that was sold only through their website in October 1998. The album contains re-masterings of highlights from their three independent albums: Dammit!, Hydroponic, and Unity. The majority of these songs predate S.A. Martinez's full-time membership in the band; as such, he does not appear as frequently as on later albums.

Personnel

 * Nick Hexum - rhythm guitar, vocals
 * Tim Mahoney - lead guitar
 * S.A. Martinez - vocals
 * P-Nut - bass
 * Chad Sexton - percussion, drums
 * Jim Watson - guitar on "This Too Shall Pass"

Production

 * Producer:
 * Tracks 1-8 produced by 311 & J.E. Van Horne
 * Track 9 produced by 311 & Tom Lippold
 * Mixing and Recording:
 * Tracks 1-8 by 311 & J.E. Van Horne at Rainbow Recording Studios, Omaha, NE www.rainbowmusicomaha.com
 * Track 9 by 311 & Tom Lippold at IEV Studios, Omaha, NE
 * Tracks 1, 2, 3, and 9 re-mixed by Scotch Ralston
 * Re-Mastering: Joe Gastwirt at Oceanview
 * Art direction & design: Pawn Shop Press
 * Photography: Nils Anders Erickson President:Rainbow Recording Studios www.rainbowmusicomaha.com

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Talk:Bridal Veil Falls (Utah)

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THIS WATERFALL IS NOT IN AMERICAN FORK, IT'S IN PROVO CANYON!!!!!!!!!

Location
Would like some additional information, e.g., link to an aerial photograph. Jim 03:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:Jengod/Archive 10

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:)
You are very welcome, and thanks for the kind words. Short Verses 16:31, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank You
Jengod, I would have my last act at Wikipedia to be a thank you for your enormous contributions here. After you first contacted me several months ago I always checked when I came here to see what you have been doing. I was never disappointed. I consider myself well versed on history and geography, but have always found something new and interesting from reading your contributions. I’m glad you finally forgave those of us living in the red states. You were greatly missed. Thank you and goodbye. CPret 11:39, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

List of Capitals
Considering all the work you did revising that capitals list, I find it amusing that you thank me for a one word edit :). Thank You.  Btw, if we could find pictures of the state capital buildings, I think that would be even better than the flags, considering this is a "capitals" list. NoSeptember (talk)  22:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

U.S. regions info boxes
WikiProject:U.S. regions will be discussing possible changes to the infoboxes. Since they were one of the leading reasons for leaving the project I'd appreciated it if you would participate in the discussion when it begins. As always, I ask you to reconsider leaving the project. Please respond on my talk page. Thanks. -JCarriker 19:42, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

W. Mark Felt
Salve! I nominated W. Mark Felt as a WP:FAC. As you commented on the Deep Throat talk page, I'd appreciate your comments at Featured article candidates/W. Mark Felt/archive1. PedanticallySpeaking 15:48, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Image title
Hi. See Image talk:Time-magazine-stupid-motherfucker.jpg. I understand the wish to insult someone so odious, but IMO the title is unencyclopedic and rather trivializes the subject. Would you particularly object to reuploading it under a different title? -- Infrogmation 05:00, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hollywood, Los Angeles, California
Someone pointed out that the Hollywood article should be titled "Hollywood, Los Angeles, California". I noticed that you had created a redirect of that title. Do you have an obection to the move? Cheers, -Willmcw 19:39, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

Interested in an L.A.-area Wiki meetup?
It appears as though L.A. has never had a Wiki meetup. Would you be interested in attending such an event? If so, checkout User:Eric Shalov/Wikimeetup.

(By the way, your Quotable section on your User page left me ROFL. Thanks for that.)  : )

- Eric 19:38, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's official! The first-ever L.A. Wiki Meetup will be occuring on July 25th, 2005. Are you coming? Would you like to help host? More details on the Meetup page. Be sure to check back regularly for updates! - Eric 30 June 2005 10:42 (UTC)

Comancheria
Didn't know if this (Comancheria) was a historical region or not. I'll leave it up to you? 12.74.168.100 30 June 2005 05:08 (UTC)

Jello Belt
Hi Jengod,

this is just to note that I've listed the article you created, Jello Belt, for VfD here, as I don't believe that it's a well-known term. Please feel free to vote and discuss at the voting page.

Thanks, — Asbestos | Talk 3 July 2005 23:35 (UTC)

Main page revert
I just wanted to point you towards this. Don't get me wrong - I definitely want the FP on the main page (I'm the one who suggested it), but it looked funky. →Raul654 04:32, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

Coming to the Wiki Meetup?
It would be quite a pleasure to have someone of your Wiki experience (I am constantly impressed by how prolific you have been) at the 1st L.A. Wiki meetup. Are you coming?  - Eric 03:40, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

L.A. Meetup Reminder
Don't forget! L.A's first Wiki meetup is TONIGHT at 7:30 at Philippe's in Downtown. Check out the meetup page for details. See you there! (If you can't make it, come to the next one! - Eric 22:00, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Northwest Territory edit and revert
I thought that a single disambiguation page would be better rather than multiple mini disambiguation lists at the top of several articles because it would mean easier maintenance and less clutter for each article involved. Obviously you've put a lot of work into the article, so I was wondering what your reasoning was for preferring the previous state. —Tokek 19:08, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

South Carolina
Thanks for the comment on my talk page. I'm aiming to write three Featured Articles so I can earn a Featured Article Medal, and I'm going to keep a-workin'. One day I might even earn a Barnstar of High Culture for history articles. Toothpaste 23:29, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Template:Potuslists
I can understand why you removed Vice Presidents by time in office from this template (its not truly a list about U.S. Presidents), but the alternative is adding it to the See Also section of each of these articles, which would clutter them IMO. Your thoughts? NoSeptember 19:05, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
 * That is excellent. I am sure trivia buffs will often be interested in all related lists.   NoSeptember  19:27, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Illinois governors
When color coding the list of Illinois governors, you introduced a "bogus" governor (probably copied from Maine). Enoch Lincoln was never a governor of Illinois. Bond was #1. DS1953 20:32, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Martha Ballard
Thanks for weighing in on Martha Ballard. I'd like to point out that the change of category might be more appropriate for people born after Maine became a state. Martha was born in Massachusetts and then lived and worked in the area of Massachusetts that later became Maine. I should probably update the article to reflect that fact. In dealing with these types of problems in US History, a couple of other history types and I are considering coming up with 8 to 12 regions as categories. The "History of New England" is one of the first to be created, as it is a well known and well defined region where new states were created from older ones. Other areas of the country, like the Great Basin, have similar patterns as states were created. If this category scheme is of interest, I'd appreciate your ideas as well. Comments welcome. WBardwin 09:05, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Here's the suggestions for a base category and the list in progress. Nothing set in stone. Your expertise would be helpful.  Thanks for the interest.  WBardwin 06:27, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Category:United States history by region
 * "History of New England."
 * "History of the Coastal Piedmont" or "History of the Mid Atlantic Region."
 * "History of the Coastal South."
 * "History of the Upland South."
 * "History of the Ohio Valley."
 * "History of the Great Lakes Region."
 * "History of the Western Plains."
 * "History of the Rocky Mountain Area."
 * "History of the Great Basin."
 * "History of the American Southwest."
 * "History of the American Northwest."
 * "History of California."
 * "History of Hawaii."
 * "History of Alaska."

stars on the flag
j~God: Given your interest in historic USA [if I say "America" all sorts of folks will throw hisssy fits] do you know what the origin of the 5 pointed star used on the flag is? Also, was it used on colonial flags [if they existed] before the Revolution? Carptrash 14:36, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
 * well you had me reaching for my dictionary - which I keep close by [and you only missed by one "o"] but now I know who I am looing for. Thanks. Carptrash 14:06, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Erie Triangle
Your article on the Erie Triangle is excellent, as is the map. That's not a real well-known aspect of history except to locals. Are you from the Erie area originally, mayhap? - Sensor 01:07, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the tip about wiki syntax for links to images! I had been wondering if there was a better way to do that. --JW1805 18:47, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Erie Triangle, take 2
Please see Talk:Andrew Ellicott. BTW, Erie Triangle is a fine article, but could use some references. Lupo 07:08, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

Image:Declaration-of-independence-broadside-cropped.jpg
The image Image:Declaration-of-independence-broadside-cropped.jpg has been tagged as unverified This image links to many pages, so it would be a shame to get it deleted. Isn't this in the public domain? It is after all a cropped image of the Declaration of Independence. --Mb1000 14:02, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice about the Dec. It is P.D. and is now labelled as such. jengod 20:09, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

You're very welcome! But you forgot to removed the UNVERIFIED notice! Don't worry I'll do that for you. I see on "Kate's user edit counter" that you have over 31,000 edits, WOW! How long has it taken you to do all that? --Mb1000 00:28, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

U.S. Senators from [State]
Thanks for the help with splitting up the massive U.S. Senator category into subcats by state. Was hoping someone would jump on board with the idea. :) -- tomf688  01:58, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

 * No objections from me going out of alphabetical order. As long as they get done. :)

 * However, I'm not looking forward to having to do the Congressmen pages at all. Way too freakin' many! ;) -- tomf688  14:29, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

 * Oh and one more note. When adding articles to the subcategories, be sure to add the List of United States Senators from [state] and U.S. Congressional Delegations from [State] articles to the categories. -- tomf688  00:39, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

 * Just in case you were wondering, I finished off the Category:United States Senators recategorization after a power session yesterday evening. Thus, I'm about to move to Category:Members of the U.S. House of Representatives to get that mess sorted out.  I'm thinking of using the format Category:U.S. Representatives from [State] when recategorizing, as well.

 * If you are willing to help, it would be very much appreciated. Also, if you know anyone else who doesn't mind hours of tedious labor, let me know. ;)

 * Thanks in advance. -- tomf688  15:41, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

Template:13colonies
I have nominated this for deletion. This is now what categories are for; and Template:otherarticles makes visible links to a category. Constructions like Pennsylvania Colony - and, yes, it was occasionally used - should probably not appear in article space without caveats. Septentrionalis 02:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

test
Jengod | talk 06:57, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

Copyright violation
I would hope you would be willing to explain your comment that tagging the insertion of two screens worth of copyrighted text, without an acknowledgment of the direct quotation, as a copyright violation was "nonsense." When I worked as a teaching assistant (both at the undergraduate and graduate levels), such an uncredited appropriation of text would have been treated as plagiarism resulting in both a failing grade on the written project involved and the initiation of an academic disciplinary review. The level of personal abuse that's been directed at me for pointing out a clear breach of applicable Wikipedia guidelines is ridiculous, and an admin should certainly not engage in it. Monicasdude 17:13, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Please review the excerpts I've pointed out at the bottom of my talk page, in response to comments by another user. I noted a copyright violation not because the article presented the same "bald facts" in the same order, but because the article appropriated the exact text from the linked site, without any acknowledgment, changing the tense and, in one case, reversing the order of two items.  User: Toothpaste did not comply with the applicable Wikiguideline concerning such quotations, which required her to identify the source of the material and place an appropriate notice either on the talk page or, in "hidden text," on the page itself. As for a "dramatic reaction" to my "dramatic act," the personal abuse did not begin with the copyvio notice. As for the quality of work, I think this is not a good article. And I will refer to the particular comment which led me to identify her plagiarism, the statement that "In 1992, Arizona became the first state to have voter approval of a paid Martin Luther King Jr. state holiday." This is a bizarre misstatement of history. I can understand why the State of Arizona papers over the events, but no one who in good faith writes about them should do so.  Arizona was the 49th state to approve a King holiday.  Its legislature refused to do so for years. In the mid-1980s, then-governor Bruce Babbitt created one by executive order, but that order was repealed by later governor Evan Meachum (whose impeachment should also have been discussed, as impeached governors are much rarer than female governors.) Despite a boycott campaign that ran the better part of a decade, including the loss of a scheduled Super Bowl, the state did not establish the holiday until the hotel/tourism industry forced the issue to a popular vote in 1992. To present this history, as the article does, with the implication that there is something laudable about its course of action, is to falsify history. It also shows exceptionally poor research. I think that featured articles should be well-researched. And I think that pointing out bad research is appropriate. I don't care about your "hurting my feelings" or making things "hard" for me. I think you behaved irresponsibly and let your opinions regarding user:Toothpaste override the criteria and guidelines that should have been applied. Monicasdude 19:20, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Now that this is cooling off, I'd like to say that I think your view of the role of objectors to FACs is badly flawed. The FAC guidelines say "If you nominate an article, you will be expected to make a good-faith effort to address objections that are raised." They don't call on editors who object to a candidacy to devote any of their time and efforts to improving it. I think most editors who object to particular points either give enough information in their objections to enable the nominator to repair the article or repair it themselves. But I don't think it's reasonable to require or expect those who make general, substantive objections to spend considerable amounts of time researching and repairing articles. With regard to the history of Arizona article, I thought it was clear that the recent history sections were too superficial and omitted important events. And I don't think it's fair to expect me, or any other objecting editor, to do the extensive research and repair work that's required to do the job right in those circumstances. I don't think it's policy here, and I don't think it would be an appropriate policy, to say that FACs with serious flaws should be promoted unless those who point out the flaws shoulder the affirmative burden of improving the articles. I'd rather write about subjects about which I'm relatively well-informed. Monicasdude 14:50, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Your comments on User talk:Monicasdude
I think you are not looking at the larger picture here. You don't see to notice that User:A Link to the Past has made a series of uncivil remarks to User:Monicasdude ("Troll much?", "Get the Hell over it.") which seems to me clearer incidents of gratuitous head-butting than any others in this series of events. That's not to say that I think Monicasdude is providing feedback in the most frictionless of fashions, but I think this is partly because of a lack of understanding of process and partly because there's no clear indication that serious responses are being taken seriously and given fora accordingly. On the other hand, I'd also point out that you may not be giving User:Toothpaste the best incentives to create the highest quality articles by handing out medals, a practise I've never particularly understood in any case. Toothpaste may be well-intended in trying to improve articles, but I tend to think that medals are incidental and may be counter-productive. If FA articles are high-quality, they don't end up with serious questions hanging over them immediately after promotion. There are open questions about the SC article, and the AZ article research seems to me to lack credibility given the concerns Monicasdude has raised. I think Toothpaste perfectly capable of producing excellent articles but that she is getting feedback that encourages her to go way too fast at the expense of quality. The result appears to be far too great a reliance on Internet research and minimal use of scholarly sources (I see only two sources cited in the AZ article and no references for particular claims). I believe you are responsible for encouraging this behaviour. If this Monicasdude is raising another case where research appears wholly insufficient for an article submitted for FAC, I think you should be asking whether you are setting the bar too low. That being said, I think it is important to encourage Monicasdude to provide feedback in a calm and productive manner, as she clearly does her diligence and does have something to contribute. Buffyg 20:34, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

re: Riviera
Thank you. If school didn't start soon, I'd get to more L.A.-area golf-related articles as well. --fpo 02:42, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

title: User talk:Jengod/Archive 10


text:
User talk:BrokenSegue/Archive 3

This is an archived copy of User_talk:BrokenSegue from January 23 (2005) to June 5 (2005).

Virginia Kidd Pic
This image is part of our family's archive of photos; this particular shot was taken by my father, James Blish, of Virginia Kidd when they were married at some point during the 1950's. I own whatever rights remain on the photo, as they were left to me by my parents, both of whom have passed away. I uploaded the photo to WP with the understanding that it would/could leap from the page and go anywhere. That's fine with me.

Ben

PS --- yes, PD is fine.

 * Fyngyrz

Herron Move Pic
Hi, all of the pictures I've uploaded were created by me. For future reference, how do I fix this copyright thing on my own?

John
 * Verycoolwinter

Jovan Ducic photo
Hi! Regarding photo that I've uploaded: I'm not familiar with GDFL and that other stuff, but picture is from Serbian Wikipedia, so i guess that it's not copyrighted. Djordjes posted it on Serbian wiki, and here is his User page on Serbian wiki, where you can contact him in English (or tell me what to ask him). By the way, Jovan Ducic died in 1943, 62 years ago, so copyright of this photo (if any) should have expired long ago --Obradović Goran ( t al k  00:55, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * I've contacted Djordjes, and told him to either reply directly to you, or to tell me what he knows about the proto. If he is present, you should soon get the info --Obradović Goran ( t al k  15:51, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hi again! I've just found Djordjes answer on his talk page on sr:. He said that he understands English, but written his English isn't exeptional (unlike mine which is as you have noticed impeccable ;) He wrote his response in Serbian, and here is my translation. --Obradović Goran ( t al k  22:47, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * According to Serbian law, 50 years after the death of author, his copyright expire, and it passed 62 years since death of Jovan Ducic, and his works are printed in Serbia without any need to ask anyone for copyright.When it comes to Ducic photos, there are two of them (in the article), and it is basic assumption that Ducic held copyright for both of them. One of them is official, in uniform, and it is certain that it was made on Ducic's personal demand, and that it is property of Ducic, not photographer. Other photo is from Ducic's younger days, and is made at the beginig of XX century. Because the age of the photo, we can assume that its copyright has expired, and that copyright owner also was Ducic, as orderer and owner of photo. I found both of the photos on Internet (I can't remember where), and there was no ownership nor copyright stated ? if someone had copyright, it would surely be stated. However no limitation for usage of this photos was stated, and because of all of this objective reasons I think that we may freely use this photos of Jovan Ducic on Wikipedia. --Djordje Stakic 22:15, 31 Jan 2005. (CET)

I hope that this will work for you, and if may add something about your info (70 years) and Djordjes (50 years). In USA, law say ? 70 years after work is published; Serbian law say ? 50 years after author's death. --Obradović Goran ( t al k  22:47, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

User :207.157.136.36
I saw the template you put at the top of his page about it being a shared ip. Do you think I should unblock it? I'm not so sure, as I see nothing but vandalism from that account for more than the past month. Any valid contributors could easily create an account. What do you think? --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 21:02, Jan 27, 2005 (UTC)

AMST
That's the only project you have in there. The category you have seems to be more for individual aircraft than not. The sort of category you have in mind for this would fit well with articles for TFX, JSF, ATF, etc., Not the individual aircraft but competition projects.

Copyrights Fixed
Just thought I'd let you know I fixed the copyrights for my five wrestling images. Thanks for letting me know about the problems.

~ Chad

Redirect of U.S. presidential election, 2012
Please see "Election 2012" in User talk:Postdlf. Basically, the 2012 election was deleted after a VfD. Unfortunately, this article would then get recreated by a user who wasn't aware of the VfD and didn't know why the community had decided that this wasn't a good article to create. So, I figured that a good solution was to create a redirect that would let new users know immediately why the page wasn't to be recreated. Postdlf liked the idea, and so he made the redirect. He also decided that it might be a good idea to lock the redirect down.

On the other hand, a redirect to U.S. presidential election, 2004 makes very little sense. If you want to redirect to the last presidential election page, that would be 2008. Either way is still highly confusing to your average user who will want to know why there isn't an article there, why they can't start one, and why the article is locked down.

Could you please revert your change? Thanks, — DLJessup 01:00, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you very much for the revert. — DLJessup 01:30, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Another FIRSTer: Cool
I'm another FIRSTer dropping in and saying hi! --Astronouth7303 21:43, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Request: Explain Edits

 * posted by User:24.123.3.106 BrokenSegue 01:18, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Google
In my opinion any supposed differences between Google the search engine and Google Inc are not noteworthy enough to require two separate articles, lots of duplicated content. If the Google Inc article was setup as a daughter article to a slightly more generic Google article then perhaps it could work. Though, I don't feel too strongly about it, was just a suggestion. I haven't checked but are there other articles on wikipedia that impose an artificial distinction between a company and it's product? Maybe I just think the Google article itself could use some trimming or change in tone, the article was seemingly written by a fanboi, the Google Inc article was perhaps the icing on the cake of that perception. zen master   T  04:22, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hello BrokenSegue
I will add the copyright information for the images I uploaded a little later, as now I don't have enough time. In all cases, this upload is only needed for the purpose of an active dispute on the Nagorno-Karabakh discussion page.

Thank you for understanding, Rovoam 22:40, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh Images
Hi, I saw your note to Rovoam about one of the images of Armenia and the nearby region he uploaded. Rovoam is one of two users discussing the content of the Nagorno-Karabakh article on Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh; the other is Tabib. I am attempting to mediate, with some success; they're posting to the talk page instead of reverting the article and engaging in other undesirable behavior. Anyway, Rovoam uploaded a bunch of maps in the course the talk to make his case. I commented to him that they needed tagging, and a quick look at the sources he gave wasn't promising. He did reply to you on his talk page, called them temporary. They do help the discussion on the talk page. Here's a list of the ones I know about: (he tagged some): Image:Armeniamap1.jpg Image:Armeniamap2.jpg Image:Armeniamap3.jpg Image:Bigmap.JPG Image:Armeniamap1907.jpg Image:1760.jpg Image:1831.jpg Image:1842.jpg Image:Kolco.JPG. — Davenbelle 05:51, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

Hi again, there are some more images being used on Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh that you might like to know about. I do hope they tag'em so that these can stay: Image:Lachin.jpg from Rovoam, and Image:Agdam in ruins-view from mosque.jpg, Image:Ruined house.jpg, Image:Ruins-Shusha7.jpg from Tabib. — Davenbelle 06:59, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)

Brazilian nudes
Hi BrokenSegue — I saw you put the images Image:Sheila-carvalho000.jpg and Image:Scheila-carvalho000.jpg (uploaded by User:Registering a free account up for copyvio, but didn't appear to put an imagevio tag up. Just to let you know, if you do so you should probably put them on your watchlist, as this user repeatedly deletes these tags. Thanks, — Asbestos | Talk  18:45, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Rotating Barberpole Animation
Hi,

Regarding the rotating barberpole animation I uploaded for the Motion perception entry, thank you for pointing out the missing attribution information. I created this animation myself using two programs 'Matlab' and 'Gif contstruction set'. I added the GNU licencse thingie to it, let me know if it looks right.

PS:. In Firefox at least the thumbnail does appear animated.

About the Virgilio Barco image
Hello, I don't remember exactly where I got it, I think it was from the page of the presidency of Colombia (therefore public). I don't know how to change the copyright tag, I'd like it if you did so. Thanks.

3RR block of Adam Carr
I didn't mean to smack you down on WP:AN, I just realised this looks pretty harsh. I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but Adam Carr is 100% correct and Skyring is most definitely wrong over calling us a republic (call it wishful thinking...). Australia is most certainly not a republic. It is a constitutional monarchy. With this issue, I'd run with Adam. I have unblocked Adam because he is not the POV pusher in this case! I have also reverted out the material that Skyring placed into Government of Australia, because frankly: he's again wrong. If the info stays in the article we'll be the laughing stock of most Australians, and that I do not want to see (given that I am one). - Ta bu shi da yu 06:04, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * In cases where it appears that someone is reverting factually incorrect information and both parties need to be blocked, I'd personally just lock the page until they can work it out. - Ta bu shi da yu 00:00, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Global warming lock
Hi - at least now it says locked :-). There has been some questionable reverting and locking on that page. See the talk page there and the questions asked user:172 - who now appears to be on 3rr block. Although he unblocked himself long enough to lock the page under weird circumstances. Please have a look and let me know what you think. Thanks, Vsmith 04:26, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Indeed. If you could see your way clear to unblocking it, given the extremely dubious circumstances in which the block was applied in the first place... Alai 04:30, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * (William M. Connolley 09:32, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)) *Please* can you unblock this page and let us work on it. [Slight revision: I thought *you* had blocked it because you added the tag: I now see it was 172. 172's behaviour over this (and other things) appears to be poor: if you would consider unblocking the page, I would be grateful].
 * Sorry for not responding to all of you people. I was at a speech by James D. Watson himself and couldn't tear myself back here. The issue seems to be resolved now. BrokenSegue 01:09, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * (William M. Connolley 09:31, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)) Peace indeed reigns, at least for the moment, I'll enjoy it while I can :-).

Thanks for the Barnstar!
Thanks for the Barnstar, its nice to be appreciated. I'm getting a new camera soon (probably the 20D - I've already bought 2gb card and the Tokina 24-200) so I should be able to expand Wiki even more - and get more of those Featured Pictures :) --Fir0002 08:50, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Lake Zurich High School
About the high school image, that actually was taken by one of my friends. I'll verify with him, but I think he relased it to lz96.org, the website i co-run. Either way, I'm sure he wouldn't mind it being on Wikipedia (and, again, I'll vefiry with him first), so what do I do to it to make it okay to use on Wikipedia? --mathwizxp 22:02, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry. I completly forgot I put the teachers' pictures were there. I'll take them down for now.
 * Okay. I put that tag on all the pictures of the teacher in order for them to be deleted. Now I have to get in touch with my friend about the picture of the high school. --mathwizxp 23:01, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * And now all the Google logos should have copyright tags. --mathwizxp 23:39, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The childe
I have no idea where this picture came from originally. If it has to be deleted then so be it. User:PiccoloNamek

3RR
Could you take a look at Administrators' noticeboard/3RR at the second subsection entitled User:Neutrality? Snowspinner has unblocked Neutrality, which I think is great--I'm all about mercy. But under the circumstances, including Neutrality's violation of block policy as noted, it does not seem the right thing to do in this situation. Of course, I am biased, but I do not think Neutrality was truly unaware of the fact that "partial" reversions counted; nor should he claim ignorance of the block policy. Thank you. 24.245.12.39 04:33, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you for replying. Yes, I've thought about it. Anons sometimes seem to be "guilty until proven innocent" around here. That's what I think happened in this case with Neutrality, so I see how it could've happen. If he had warned me, or asked another admin to block me, or been treated equally, I would have no problem. I guess it's the combination. 24.245.12.39 04:59, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Cheers mate, --SqueakBox 15:15, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)

FPC changes
Soon, most of the tasks of promoting an FPC will become automated, but we will be required to put a template tag with specific information on the FPC's vote page. Check out User talk:AllyUnion for the discussion. I'll probably make the template tomorrow sometime, and update the instructions for FPC promotion. -- brian0918 ™  06:34, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I think FP Thumbs is useful for people nominating POTD for the future who want to make sure they don't miss any new featured pictures. Plus it lets you find a pic pretty fast.  -- brian0918  ™  20:58, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Commons admin
You are now an admin on the Commons. Congratulation! villy 06:20, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

POX
Hi! Thanks for the message. The original article was a near-nonsensical nanostub. The new redirect leads to a pretty good article. Best, Lucky 6.9 03:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I understand the imperative of aesthetics, but where best to announce these kinds of tasks? -SV|t|add 22:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC) - Ok. Much thanks for your input. -SV|t|add 23:16, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Introduction
Sandbot is currenting being tested to enforce the two first lines on that page. Please let me know if it isn't running properly. Thanks. -- AllyUnion (talk) 07:03, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

expansion chamber
Sorry I was struggling to find the right resolution to fit page. Id like to delete all the trials but dont know how. User:Motorhead

TI-graphing-calc navbox template location
I wish to discuss where the best location for this template should go. You feel it needs to go on the bottom, I find it more convieniet to put it at the top. We should come to an agreement on this, in order to get something consistent on all pages the template appears on. -- Toksyuryel talk 05:19, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Humanitarism
The anon person on humanism - That page described it better than I ever could. Hey but I created my first page :-). Thanx 4 putting me right. Would love to know how to link pages.

All the best m_toal at hotmail dot com delete away

82.41.172.81

Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by Military Branch
Thank you for that rather wise edit! I think that'll save everyone a bunch of grief. Cheers! Linuxbeak 03:49, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/Backpack rape
Thanks for message. I've only voted once and found the link from the recent changes page. So there you have it. I don't think my vote will make a difference by the look of it, just wanted to let the old folks know what the young folks thought. Walkingeagles 04:56, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Re: Bradwell v. Illinois
Thanks for your comments on my user page about the section and subsection titles; I'll keep that in mind from now on. Cheers, RidG (talk)  20:49, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)

Template
You can delete that at once, Ill be using db :) thnx for info --Cool Cat My Talk 01:57, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Penis
Unprotected. It hasn't been vandalized much, and even then not for several hours. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 02:00, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Minghong
I see that you voted at this page, but you must have used the five-tilde signature, because I see the timestamp but not your username. Please correct it, or your vote may not be counted.-gadfium 02:02, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for page protection
Thanks for moving the request. I hadn't known that Requests for page protection existed. It appears to be off the main links, perhaps for good reason. Cheers, -Willmcw 23:06, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)

 * The number of major edits is one reason that I think protection is necessary. If it were a matter of a few facts that would be more easily handled. Instead the article is swinging widely from one version to another, and the editors do not seem to be searching for common ground. Thanks for looking in on it. Cheers, -Willmcw 23:17, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)

 * PS, while we were posting and moveing the page protection request user:Stevertigo has agreed to be the mediator. I'll notify him of this request as well, which may take the burden off of other admins. Thanks, -Willmcw 23:19, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)

WP:ViP
How do we deal with the WP:ViP notice posted by Witkacy concerning User:Zivinbudas and 85.206.195.159. They all violate the 3RR in the articles mentionned, but I'm not quite sure Zivinbudas qualifies as a vandal. His edits are drastic, but it's not exactly vandalism... Phils 13:32, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks a bunch for reverting my page from the Autofellatio redirect vandal. He has been reported to the ViP page and will be blocked not only for the vandalism, but for his choice of username. Thanks again. Zscout370 (talk) 14:52, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Zivinbudas
Please restore also the old versions of Confederation and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Zivinbudas broke the 3rr.

Confederation:

 * 1
 * 2
 * 3

PLC:

 * 1
 * 2
 * 3

--Witkacy 15:00, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Aha, ok :)--Witkacy 15:05, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

 * He reverted again User:85.206.193.250 contributions:
 * --Witkacy 19:38, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Kosovo- Kosovo i Metohija and Republic of Kosovo
Hello! I would like to know, why you`ve protected the side in the serbian version? There are three versions : serbian, albanian and international version. The whole time, I ve tried to kep the international position. Why have you decided like this ?

How you`ve protected the side now, there aren`t so many facts, like we want in WIKIPEDIA. There s just politic and discussion. For this people is more important the name of Kosovo, as the informations about culture, economy, education, travel, etc. There are no informations about the diplomacie between UNMIK and belgrad; UNMIK and Pristina. There are just informations before the UNMIK came. From the Moment, UNMIK came, it happened a breakpoint in the history of Kosovo. And please, when you are neutral, you ve done the same, like UN did. I believe, that the UN is neutral. --Hipi Zhdripi 00:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

You broke the bot!!!
Thanks for breaking the bot. Now I have to find out what the hell it removed. (For WP:FPC) -- AllyUnion (talk) 20:08, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
 * By removing this line:
 * -- AllyUnion (talk) 11:21, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
 * -- AllyUnion (talk) 11:21, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Babel template
Why do you have User en-0 on your user page, but User en on your talk page? (User en-0 is for users who don't speak English) – ABCD 23:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

User:Rickyrab and User:Wikipedia is Anarchism!
I am both. I am NOT the vandal Wikipedia is Communism, and your block was a knee-jerk response that shouldn't have been done unless you studied the situation more carefully. OK? 152.163.100.69 04:45, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I apologize for registering a confusing username as a sockpuppet.   — Rickyrab | Talk 05:58, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

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Working Man's Barnstar
Hi BrokenSegue,

Please accept this barnstar as a thank-you for all your help in closing nominations and keeping Featured Picture Candidates tidy. Particularly recently when the image server has been so slow. Your work is much appreciated. - Solipsist 19:02, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Serena Dawn Spaceport
Please do not delete that entry, as it deserves some attention. Entries are made all the time for other websites, why not this one?

As I have said: "EDIT: This not an ad. The website is real and notable and deserves some attention, at least in an encyclopedia. It should be noticed in Wikipedia."

Jesse Mulkey, Arcanum Archivist

Survey on Prefixed-Styles
Since you are one of the people currently voting a "First and Only choice" I am hoping to encourage you to vote a full set of preferences in the ongoing survey before May 14, in order to prevent a deadlock which will result in no consensus. Whig 13:26, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Zanskar
I have noted that you have protected the page yourself, and have noted deal with vandalism phrase. I am not sure who are you referring to, but Mel has been shown unruly behaviour. While I have proposed copyediting and did some edits, I do not understand why he has stepped and removed everything before he finished. It is very unfair for him to do that before I can even wind up everything! See Request for comments/Mr Tan

As an admin, he even threatened artribation and stated that my behaviour needs to be changed. I however, do not understand where I have vandalised the page. If you stated that my actions are vandalism, I will never agree that is vandalism. In fact, I feel that is the reverse (Mel).

Tan 22:41, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Mr Tan, having been assured by a number of editors that the Zanskar article is grammatically and stylistically fine, has placed the "gcheck" template on it and started to "correct" good English to bad (creating verbless sentrences, mangling syntax, etc.). He's done this repeatedly, and is immune to explanation. It's difficult to see that this is less than unacceptable, and it at least comes close to vandalism. Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 16:57, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Requesting permission to edit Zanskar; see Talk:Zanskar JMBell° 18:47, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Queen Elizabeth II
Please note that I have disputed the neutrality of this article. Jguk reverted my NPOV template, claiming that the NPOV dispute is just a personal campaign of one person. Whig 09:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
 * noted. BrokenSegue

Re: Supreme Court question
Hi there. Thanks for the question regarding the citing of Small v. United States. Sorry it has taken me so long to reply, but I have been on leave from Wikipedia for some months now.

I'm sure the situation is settled by now, but the article is currently correctly placed in the category of 2005 law. It is common for a case to be argued in the Winter term and the opinion to be delivered in the Spring term. Whenever a case is cited, it is cited by the year in which the decision was recorded. This is when it actually becomes law. Until then, it is simply a pending case with no legal affect by means of stare decisis.

Thanks for your work on Supreme Court case articles and I hope you continue in the future.

Skyler1534 23:05, May 15, 2005 (UTC)

User:Kurando-san/FPC
Hi BrokenSegue. I'm working on a pre-draft for an automatic assisted bot. Please see User:Kurando-san/FPC for the pre-draft, give me your thoughts on it, and tell me if you see any ideas or improvements that can be made before I actually write the bot script to do this. -- AllyUnion (talk) 04:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Answered your questions. -- AllyUnion (talk) 11:02, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks :)
Thanks for removing the vandalism I restored on my page. There was an odd history cache issue that confused the hell out of me. :) --mav 02:14, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Thank you a lot for reverting the vandalism on my user page. drini ☎ 20:07, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

More comments for FPC
Well... Depends on how you want to view it. Does promotion mean when someone came around and tallied the votes up or when the bot does its work? If it is the former, I can have the bot assume that the last edit of the page is the date to use. If it is the latter, then I can have the bot just get the current date of whatever time it's running. -- AllyUnion (talk) 07:17, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Jefferson Food Mart
The article Jefferson Food Mart appears to be a hoax—other articles along the same lines by the same editor are currently under consideration at VfD. JeremyA 02:23, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Re your comments on my talk page: The web page linked from the Jefferson Food Mart article does not exist, the article itself is just the Kroger article with the appropriate details changed, a google search for Jefferson Food Mart gets hits for one store in Nappa Valley—add Bloomington to the google search (where the article claims that the company is headquatered) and you get zero hits. The article claims that this company is listed on the NYSE but I cannot find any evidence of that. The article that the same user created on Charles Jefferson, the supposed CEO of Jefferson Food mart is clearly a hoax and looks like it is going to get deleted under a VfD. This is why I marked this article as a CSD—I think that it qualifies as 'patent nonsense'.  --  JeremyA 02:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, you are correct, hoaxes don't qualify for CSD under the patent nonsense policy. I'm never sure where to draw the line between CSD and VfD cases—in the past I have been chastised for putting clear delete cases on VfD so I have adopted the policy of putting obvious deletes as CSDs. Maybe I need to swing back the pendulum in the other direction a little.  JeremyA 02:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

SD
In response to your comment on my talk page, I add things to WP:SD in an attempt to get them moved out quickly. I've only been heavily monitoring speedy delete pages for a couple of weeks, but when I first started there were always over 50 articles in the category. I've found that updating the page, and then adding a comment to admin noticeboard once in a while has really got things taken care of quickly.

I know many admins prefer to spend their time cleaning out VfDs and the like, but I believe speedy deletes are the ones that should be done first to ensure that at least anything that is on Wikipedia has some sort of value, even if it is later voted as deletable.

Anyway, that's my story. Thanks for taking notice of my work at SD. Harro5 02:27, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * Just to help back up my point...its been less than 30 minutes since this above post. In that time, four SD items, plus a couple that have already been deleted. This stuff pops up quickly, and I like it when it leaves just as fast. Harro5 02:47, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * Could you please clean out the current list? Thanks. Harro5 03:24, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

ESATA
I HAVE MENTIONED THE SOURCE AT THE END OF ARTICLE, THAT IT WAS A CITATION OF THAT WEBPAGE. I DEFINITELY DID NOT BREAK ANY COPYRIGHT LAW AS THAT WEBPAGE IS A FREE TO SEE ONE. AFTER THAT I DECIDED TO JUST WRITE 3 LINES AND INSERT THE LINK TO THE PAGE AS IT MADE NO DIFFERENCE. I THINK I DESERVE AN APOLOGY FOR THE DELETION OF MY ARTICLE. Gebeleizis 22:49 Eastern US time.

re: birthday
ahaha thanks :> Inter\Echo 12:47, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

A historical or an historical
Hi Brokensegue. Starwars is on my watch list. Can I ask do you say a historical or an historical (monument, relic etc).? I'm from the Philippines and I am surprised that even an American whom I work with doesn't seem to know this English style. Usted habla espanyol? Muchas gracias.--Jondel 00:56, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Why?
dude seriosly what the hell, why do you got to go be an asshole like that and revert shitPUNk 03:16, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

VIP/WiC on VfD
Hi BrokenSegue! I am sorry to tell you that I have nominated the Long term abuse/Wikipedia is Communism which you created for deletion, along with Willy on Wheel's counterpart. Please don't take it personally, I just think those pages are doing more harm than good. Sjakkalle 08:21, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

vandalism header
you mind if i steal your vandalism header on your userpage for mine? i like how it looks... leave me a comment mysekurity 21:19, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

User:Jumbo Snails
Hey. The guy you blocked is actually a legitimate user called CAPS-LOCK. Hes just mentioned you blocked his IP for impersonating Jimbo. I hope you can unblock his IP as hes a perfectly good user normally, as shown by his edits there. Hedley 00:20, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Germany, Talk:Germany
I'm hesitant to get involved in this one. I recommend that you read the talk page(s) and see for yourself. As a result of numerous disputes, mainly between Heimdal and other users, this page goes backwards rather than forwards. Quite frankly I find it all very sad. Talking hasn't worked, a straw poll hasn't worked, protecting the page hasn't worked. What else is there? It all reflects very badly on having a hands-on encyclopaedia. I hope this is an isolated example. Rednaxela 18:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your speedy response. I agree that protection isn't the best option, but was not aware of the arbitration. I am now going to try to convince Heimdal that my edits to the introductory paragraph are beneficial. Wish me luck! :os Rednaxela 19:33, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Pokemon type colors
Why did you remove colors from the Pokemon type templates? The colors are a color-coding method in the WikiProject, and those templates make things easier for the users. Andros 1337 18:32, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Image:IBM microdrive.jpg
Hi. I don't think any of the pixelquelle images are pd. It was originally thought that they were - i put something on the page that lists them all asking for clarification from a German speaker but never got any help :(. Secretlondon 19:33, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Unaccompanied Suites for Violoncello (Bach)

Yes, yes, I know. I've written one two sentences for this stub. I'm just tired right now- I'll expand it tomorrow. If anyone else wants to do it, here's a link: http://previewct.com/gbase/Music/content.html?oid=oid:60570. Otherwise, I'll be back tomorrow. Promise. (Yawn). Flcelloguy 02:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Oops. Didn't know it existed already- sorry! I've now merged the two articles and made this a redirect. Flcelloguy 02:00, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)


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Polylogism

Polylogism is the belief that different groups of people reason in fundamentally different ways (coined from Greek poly 'many' + logos 'logic'). The term is attributed to Ludwig von Mises, who claimed that it described Marxism and other social philosophies. In the Misesian sense of the term, a polylogist ascribes different forms of "logic" to different groups, which may include groups based on race, gender, class, or time period.

Types of polylogism
A polylogist would claim that different groups reason in fundamentally different ways: they use different "logics" for deductive inference. Normative polylogism is the claim that these different logics are equally valid. Descriptive polylogism is an empirical claim about different groups, but a descriptive polylogism need not claim equal validity for different "logics". That is, a descriptive polylogist may insist on a universally valid deductive logic while claiming as an empirical matter that some groups use other (incorrect) reasoning strategies.

An adherent of polylogism in the Misesian sense would be a normative polylogist. A normative polylogist might approach an argument by demonstrating how it was correct within a particular logical construct, even if it were incorrect within the logic of the analyst. As Mises noted "this never has been and never can be attempted by anybody."

Proletarian logic
The term 'proletarian logic' is sometimes taken as evidence of polylogism. This term is usually traced back to Joseph Dietzgen in his 11th letter on logic. Dietzgen is the now obscure philosophical monist of the 19th century who coined the term 'dialectical materialism' and was praised by communist figures such as Karl Marx and V. I. Lenin. His work has received modern attention primarily from the philosopher Bertell Ollman. As a monist, Dietzgen insists on a unified treatment of mind and matter. As Simon Boxley puts it, for Dietzgen "thought is as material an event as any other". This means that logic too has "material" underpinnings. (But note that Dietzgen's "materialism" was explicitly not a physicalism.)

Racialist polylogism
Racialist polylogism is often identified with the Nazi era. It has been proposed that the ferment around Einstein's theory of relativity is an example of racialist polylogism. Some of the criticisms of relativity theory were mixed with racialist resistance that characterized the physics as an embodiment of Jewish ideology. (For example, Nobel Prize winner Philipp Lenard claimed scientific thought was conditioned by "blood and race", and he accused Werner Heisenberg of teaching "Jewish physics". ) However this appears to be an argument ad hominem, not polylogism. Modern examples of supposed racialist polylogism are generally misleading. For example, US Supreme Court Justice Sotomayor has been accused of racialist polylogism for suggesting that a "wise Latina" might come to different legal conclusions than a white male. Although generally given the interpretation that life experience can influence one's ability to understand the practical implications of a legal argument, some commentators suggested that Sotomayor supported the idea that Latinas have a unique "logic".

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Greensboro sit-ins

The Greensboro sit-ins were a series of nonviolent protests in February to July 1960, primarily in the Woolworth store—now the International Civil Rights Center and Museum—in Greensboro, North Carolina, which led to the F. W. Woolworth Company department store chain removing its policy of racial segregation in the Southern United States. While not the first sit-in of the civil rights movement, the Greensboro sit-ins were an instrumental action, and also the best-known sit-ins of the civil rights movement. They are considered a catalyst to the subsequent sit-in movement, in which 70,000 people participated. This sit-in was a contributing factor in the formation of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC).

Previous sit-ins
In August 1939, African-American attorney Samuel Wilbert Tucker organized the Alexandria Library sit-in in Virginia (now the Alexandria Black History Museum). In 1942, the Congress of Racial Equality sponsored sit-ins in Chicago, as they did in St. Louis in 1949 and Baltimore in 1952. College students led a successful 1955 sit-in at Read's Drug Store in Baltimore, but the event received less widespread attention than the Greensboro sit-ins. The Dockum Drug Store sit-in in 1958 in Wichita, Kansas, was successful in ending segregation at every Dockum Drug Store in Kansas and the Katz Drug Store sit-in in Oklahoma City the same year led the Katz Drug Stores to end its segregation policy. Like the Greensboro sit-ins, the participants in the two 1958 sit-ins employed a similar strategy and sought to desegregate store lunch counters. Between 1958 and 1964, Oklahoma City would serve as a hotspot for sit-ins.

Activists' plan
The Greensboro Four (as they would soon be known) were Joseph McNeil, Franklin McCain, Ezell Blair Jr., and David Richmond, all young black students at North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University in their freshman year who often met in their dorm rooms to discuss what they could do to stand against segregation. They were inspired by Martin Luther King Jr. and his practice of nonviolent protest, and specifically wanted to change the segregational policies of F. W. Woolworth Company in Greensboro, North Carolina. During Christmas vacation of 1959, McNeil attempted to buy a hot dog at the Greensboro Greyhound Lines bus station, but was refused service. Shortly thereafter, the four men decided that it was time to take action against segregation. They came up with a simple plan: they would occupy seats at the local F. W. Woolworth Company store, ask to be served, and when they were inevitably denied service, they would not leave. They would repeat this process every day for as long as it would take. Their goal was to attract widespread media attention to the issue, forcing Woolworth to implement desegregation.

The sit-ins

On February 1, 1960, at 4:30 pm ET, the four sat down at the 66-seat L-shaped stainless steel lunch counter inside the F. W. Woolworth Company store at 132 South Elm Street in Greensboro, North Carolina. The men, Ezell Blair Jr., David Richmond, Franklin McCain and Joseph McNeil, who would become known as the A&T Four or the Greensboro Four, had purchased toothpaste and other products from a desegregated counter at the store with no problems, but were then refused service at the store's lunch counter when they each asked for a cup of coffee and a donut with cream on the side. According to a witness, a white waitress told the boys "We don't serve Negroes here". Blair responded that he was just served 2 feet away, to which the waitress replied "Negroes eat at the other end". An African-American girl who was cleaning behind the counter called them "stupid, ignorant, rabble-rousers, troublemakers". Another African-American told them, "You're just hurting race relations by sitting there". However, an elderly white woman told them, "I am just so proud of you. My only regret is that you didn't do this ten or fifteen years ago". Store manager Clarence Harris asked them to leave, and, when they would not budge, called his supervisor, who told him, "They'll soon give up, leave and be forgotten". Harris allowed the students to stay and did not call police to evict them. The four freshmen stayed until the store closed that night, and then went back to the North Carolina A&T University campus, where they recruited more students to join them the next morning.

The next day, on February 2, 1960, more than twenty black students (including four women), recruited from other campus groups, joined the sit-in. This group sat with school work to stay busy from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. The group was again refused service, and were harassed by the white customers at the Woolworth store. However, the sit-ins made local news on the second day, with reporters, a TV cameraman and police officers present throughout the day. Back on campus that night, the Student Executive Committee for Justice was organized, and the committee sent a letter asking the president of F.W. Woolworth to "take a firm stand to eliminate discrimination." Upon hearing of the sit-ins, the president of the college, Warmoth T. Gibbs, remarked that Woolworth's "did not have the reputation for fine food". The students wrote the following letter to the president of Woolworth's: Dear Mr. President: We the undersigned are students at the Negro college in the city of Greensboro. Time and time again we have gone into Woolworth stores in Greensboro. We have bought thousands of items at the hundreds of counters in your stores. Our money was accepted without rancor or discrimination, and with politeness towards us, when at a long counter just three feet away our money is not acceptable because of the colour of our skins...... We are asking your company to take a firm stand to eliminate discrimination. We firmly believe that God will give you courage and guidance in solving the problem. Sincerely Yours, Student Executive Committee.

On February 3, 1960, the number grew to over 60, including students from Dudley High School. An estimated one third of the protesters were women, many of them students from Bennett College, a historically black women's college in Greensboro. White customers heckled the black students, who read books and studied, while the lunch counter staff continued to refuse service. North Carolina's official chaplain of the Ku Klux Klan (Kludd), George Dorsett, as well as other members of the Klan, were present. The F.W. Woolworth national headquarters said that the company would "abide by local custom" and maintain its segregation policy.

On February 4, 1960, more than 300 people took part. The group now included students from North Carolina A&T University, Bennett College, and Dudley High School, and they filled the entire seating area at the lunch counter. Three white female students from the Woman's College of the University of North Carolina (now University of North Carolina at Greensboro), Genie Seaman, Marilyn Lott, and Ann Dearsley, also joined the protest. Organizers agreed to expand the sit-in protests to include the lunch counter at Greensboro's S. H. Kress & Co. store that day. Students, college administrators, and representatives from F.W. Woolworth and Kress met to discuss, but with the stores' refusal to integrate, the meeting was not resolved.

On February 5, 1960, a high tension environment at the Woolworth counter emerged when 50 white men sat at the counter, in opposition to the protesters, which now included white college students. Again, more than 300 were at the store by 3:00 pm, at which time the police removed two young white customers for swearing and yelling, and then police arrested three white patrons before the store closed at 5:30 pm. Another meeting between students, college officials, and store representatives took place, and again there was no resolution. The store representatives were frustrated that only certain segregated stores were being protested, and asked for intervention by the college administrators, while some administrators suggested a temporary closure of the counters.

On Saturday, February 6, 1960, over 1,400 North Carolina A&T students met in the Richard B. Harrison Auditorium on campus. They voted to continue the protests and went to the Woolworth store, filling up the store. More than 1,000 protesters and counter-protesters packed themselves into the store by noon. Around 1 pm, a bomb threat set for 1:30 pm was delivered by call to the store, causing the protesters to head to the Kress store, which immediately closed, along with the Woolworth store.

On March 16, 1960, President Dwight D. Eisenhower expressed his concern for those who were fighting for their human and civil rights, saying that he was "deeply sympathetic with the efforts of any group to enjoy the rights of equality that they are guaranteed by the Constitution."

The sit-in movement then spread to other Southern cities, including Winston-Salem, Durham, Raleigh, Charlotte, Richmond, Virginia, and Lexington, Kentucky. In Nashville, Tennessee, students of the Nashville Student Movement were trained by civil rights activist James Lawson and had already started the sit-in process when Greensboro occurred. The Nashville sit-ins attained desegregation of the downtown department store lunch counters in May 1960. Most of these protests were peaceful, but there were instances of violence. In Chattanooga, Tennessee, tensions rose between blacks and whites and fights broke out. In Jackson, Mississippi, students from Tougaloo College staged a sit-in on May 28, 1960, recounted in the autobiography of Anne Moody, a participant. In Coming of Age in Mississippi, Moody describes their treatment from whites who were at the counter when they sat down, the formation of the mob in the store and how they managed finally to leave. The sit-ins spread to other forms of public accommodation, including transport facilities, swimming pools, lunch counters, libraries, art galleries, parks and beaches and museums, primarily in the South.

As the sit-ins continued, tensions started growing in Greensboro. Students began a far-reaching boycott of stores with segregated lunch counters. Sales at the boycotted stores dropped by a third, leading their owners to abandon segregation policies. On Monday, July 25, 1960, after nearly $200,000 in losses ($ million in dollars), and a reduction in salary for not meeting sales goals, store manager Clarence Harris asked four black employees, Geneva Tisdale, Susie Morrison, Anetha Jones, and Charles Bess, to change out of their work clothes and order a meal at the counter. They were, quietly, the first to be served at a Woolworth lunch counter. Most stores were soon desegregated, though in Jackson, Tennessee, Woolworth's continued to be segregated until around 1965, despite multiple protests.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 mandated desegregation in public accommodations.

Lunch counter on display
The International Civil Rights Center & Museum in Greensboro has portions of the lunch counter, and donated part of their lunch counter to the Smithsonian's African American Museum National Museum of African American History and Culture in 2016.

A four-seat portion of the lunch counter acquired by the Smithsonian Institution in 1993, is displayed in the National Museum of American History and a six-seat portion was donated to the Greensboro History Museum in 1993 is on display.

Commemorations
In 1990, the street south of the site was renamed February One Place, in commemoration of the date of the first Greensboro sit-in.

In 2002, the February One monument and sculpture by James Barnhill, depicting the Greensboro Four, was erected on North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University's campus.

On February 1, 2020, Google showed a Google Doodle of a diorama made by Karen Collins to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the Greensboro sit-in.

On April 12, 2022, the Guilford County Board of Education voted to rename The Middle College at N.C. A&T, a high school for boys on the N.C. A&T campus, "A&T Four Middle College at North Carolina A&T State University" effective July 1, 2022.

In film

 * February One: The Story of the Greensboro Four is a 2003 documentary film shown on PBS.
 * Seizing Justice: The Greensboro 4 is a 2010 documentary film for the Smithsonian Channel.

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Category talk:Flag images

I will be going through this category, placing various images on WP:IFD for various reasons. If you have any questions, just let me know. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 02:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I also will be placing some images at the Wikimedia Commons and might redraw a few. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 22:38, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

FOTW Images
Due to the discussion at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flags/message/97681, all images from FOTW are going to be speedy deleted, since FOTW images are only to be used for non-commercial purposes. Zach (Sound Off) 21:46, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Some flags are gone
These articles need flags: -- elias . hc  09:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Hungary at the 1972 Summer Olympics
 * Afghanistan at the 1988 Summer Olympics

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Category talk:Provinces of New Zealand

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There having been all of ten NZ provinces in the strict sense, and all abolished 130 years ago, I doubt if we really want to make a category for them. Maybe the promoter of the idea can write a generously inclusive description, so that we can include "provincial" football teams, for example. Robin Patterson 02:54, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Hot Springs Music Festival

The Hot Springs Music Festival is a not-for-profit educational music festival held in Hot Springs, Arkansas. During the first two weeks of June, "pre-professional" musicians join professional mentor musicians in performance of concert music. There are approximately 4 orchestral concerts and numerous chamber music concerts. Venues include the Oaklawn Performing Arts School and various churches in the city. All rehearsals are open to the public.

The Festival Board includes 6 Mentors: Caroline Kinsey, Chair; Matt McClung, Secretary; Osiris Molina, Treasurer; Annie Chalex Boyle, Virginia Broffitt Kunzer and Scott Moore; also David Childs, Vice Chair; Janet Brewer, Lisa Carey, Christy Etheridge and Mara Magdalene.

Founder Laura S. Rosenberg continues to serve as Operations Manager and Arts Administration Mentor.

Since its inaugural season in 1996, the Hot Springs Music Festival has mentored more than 1600 apprentices. The Festival offers apprenticeships in each of the orchestral instruments as well as collaborative piano, voice, conducting, production, recording engineering, and arts administration. Festival apprentices come from all over the world and are evaluated competitively against other applicants. Each accepted apprentice receives a full tuition scholarship for the two-week festival.

The Hot Springs Music Festival Symphony Orchestra has recorded six discs on the Naxos Records label. They also appear on four additional compilation discs, also on the Naxos label.

The 2022 season took place on June 4–18. In 2023, the festival was canceled primarily due to funding difficulties.

Every year approximately 10,000 people attend the festival to watch 20 concerts and 250 rehearsals. Additionally, around 6.4 million people tune in to listen to this festival via radio. The festival is held in the Ouachita Mountains, in Hot Springs National Park, Arkansas. This national park is now designated a "city of the arts".

title: Hot Springs Music Festival