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Talk:Charlestown, Boston

Bussing
Somebody should write about it. Somebody, ideally, who knows more about it than I do. Stilgar135 23:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Expansion
What is the history surrounding the separation of Somerville? -- Beland 23:33, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

 * See "Beyond the Neck" by the Somerville Historical Commission for the details of Somerville's founding. Essentially, Somerville is a composite of land deeded or exchanged by Cambridge, Charlestown and Medford. The part Charlestown contributed was an isolated area "beyond the Neck" (where Sullivan Station is now was a narrow isthmus at one time).
 * Also, the "colonial, red brick, bow-faced houses" (loose quote) section needs fixing. If I'm not mistaken, those are probably Victorian NEO-colonials, not 17th-18th century structures. (Can't believe everything those real estate agents say...!) The Warren Tavern includes early structural material, but so much else was destroyed by various fires that less original colonial fabric is there than might be wished. BestDellaroux (talk) 12:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Neighborhood changed because of colonial architecture?

 * "While it has had a substantial Irish American population since the migration of Irish during the Irish famine of the 1840s, since the late 1980s the neighborhood has changed dramatically because of its close proximity to downtown, and its colonial architecture."

Pretty weird. How has the neighborhood changed dramatically because of colonial architecture? Without some explanation, I plan to deleted the last phrase in the sentence (last four words). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 (talk) 15:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Postcards
This http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/charlestown/postcards/postcards_19th_century.html lists some PD (because of age) postcards of Charlestown. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:50, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

What is Charlestown's county?
We are told that the Boston area takes in six counties. Please include the county to which Charlestown belongs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.185.161.127 (talk) 02:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Location of the Battle Of Bunker Hill
It's a widespread meme that "the Battle of Bunker Hill was not fought on Bunker Hill, but rather on Breed's Hill." It's common for the meme to be stated whenever the Battle of Bunker Hill is mentioned, but it is without foundation. Yes, much of the battle was fought on Breed's Hill; the American forces had built a fortification on Breed's Hill and the British forces stormed that fort, and Breed's Hill is the location of the Bunker Hill Monument, but the battle was actually fought all over the Charlestown peninsula: on Breed's Hill, on Bunker Hill, between the hills, in the built-up part of the town on the Charles River, on the beach along the shore of the Mystic River, along a rail fence at the foot of Bunker Hill, and on Charlestown Neck. Although it is true to say that the Bunker Hill Monument is located on Breed's Hill, the simplistic notion that the battle was fought not on Bunker Hill but rather on Breed's Hill is nonsense. Read "The Siege Of Boston" by Allen French, or even the battle's Wikipedia entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.154.253.129 (talk) 03:54, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Education
I rearranged this section by just formatting the list into bullets. And also included a type of early childhood education school in Charlestown along with a few more college institutions.(LarissaIngala (talk) 13:57, 8 April 2016 (UTC))

Wikipedia course edits
This is being done for coursework in the Wikipedia Edu Program so we would appreciate edit suggestions made to me rather than just changed. thank you. (Kpixley23 (talk) 15:25, 27 April 2016 (UTC))

 * For starters,
 * Remove the duplicated paragraph in the lead section. done
 * Carefully proofread everything added or changed, and tidy it up.
 * Watch punctuation. There should be a space typed after every period and comma.
 * Use a spellchecker.
 * To avoid possible copyright violations, remove or paraphrase anything copied or pasted from outside sources.
 * Remove all expressions of personal opinion (unsourced commentary).
 * Remove or provide sourcing for any controversial statements.
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Please attend to the forementioned cleanup tasks quickly. Currently, many portions of the new text are faulty to the point of being unreadable. Hertz1888 (talk) 04:49, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

 * First item done. Attention needed to the rest! Hertz1888 (talk) 15:11, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Sources for future article expansion
Further reading sections are generally a bad idea on Wikipedia since no one curates them and no one usually glosses them to give curious readers an idea of what the importance, bias, focus, &c. of the work is. Kindly restore this source (assuming it is a WP:RS) once it is actually being used to verify statements in the running text of the article. — Llywelyn II   13:51, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Sammarco, Anthony Mitchell, Charlestown, Arcadia Publishing, Images of America series, 2004

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Not my area of expertise
This is Wikipedia. Standards for fact presentation are non-existent. Ergo, in the mere 20 years this article has been online, be sure not to state, in the legend at top right or elsewhere, Charlestown's land area, like every other encyclo- (even Wiki-) pedia article about a locality with a defined boundary has done since humans first walked erect.

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Talk:Greystones

Marina, Overpopulation and other complaints
Could residents who have objections to changes in the town please not try and write with such ridiculous POV in this article. Here's some text I just had to edit out:
 * ...the council and developers are fools if they think the decent people of Greystones are in favour of it...:
 * ...which threatens to turn the area into some sort of cheaper version of Benidorm, with an excessive number of high-rise apartments, etc...:

Its really annoying to see Wikipedia in such a dreadful state, and I'd request for people to maintain objectivity. Cheers

--- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.14.67 (talk • contribs) 17:33, 24 February 2006

Perhaps the person (or persons) who keeps inserting this sentence:
 * Both Greystones and Blackrock are seen as desirable places to live, but wits insist that the former is but a pale shadow of the latter.

would like to create an account at Uncyclopedia. That would be a better place for this "joke". And please don't assert, as has been done by email, that I don't get it. It's irrelevant whether any contributer or reader gets the joke; the point is that this isn't the place for jokes, particularly when the statement, taken literally, is so clearly in violation of the NPOV policy.

If someone cares enough to find a way to insert this piece back into the article without being so apparently POV then it might well add character to the article. But please don't put it back unless you can find such a way. —Rory ☺ 18:24, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

These sentences I deleted are either tendentious or outright false. The number of submissions from outside Greystones is currently unknown. The Department of Marine says the marina will do nothing to stop coastal erosion. I'm a resident and I'd prefer the harbor reverted to natural beach than any development of this kind happened. (You may or may not agree with me, but my opinion disproves the statement that "all residents" want some kind of development). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.231.53.223 (talk • contribs) 11:45, 23 May 2006 Fair enough, as long as its equal in its point of view —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.70.214.43 (talk • contribs) 14:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, it was a bit of a stupid revert on my part... I saw the anon IP and just made assumptions. :) Jhonan talk 13:32, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I see the guidelines for edits and discussion ask that contribs be signed. Hmmm... So, 86.40.14.67, and those like you, why have you not got a user name instead of an IP address? And why don't you sign your contribs?

Bwmiller 12:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

POV on Father Ted
I have repeatedly edited this section to remove somebody's point of view of Father Ted as 'The Greatest Comedy of all time' and the person keeps replacing it. It's not appropriate and shouldn't be included! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.231.153.50 (talk • contribs) 16:32, 6 January 2006 Obviously no sense of humour mate, why do you care so much.. Father Ted is the 'Greatest Comedy of all time'!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.70.214.43 (talk • contribs) 14:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Famous People
Why have Joe Sweeney, Gordon, Mrs. Mooney, etc. been removed from the "Famous Residents" section? They are certainly very well-known within the community. Does the fact that they are unknown outside of Greystones disqualify them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.162.201 (talk • contribs) 13:36, 10 April 2006

here here, bring back our famous residents —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.0.185.46 (talk • contribs) 04:35, 26 April 2006

 * How are they famous? Well known yes, but famous NO. Josie from Supervalue, come on will ya. 83.141.80.130 (Talk)
 * Before you add people you consider famous to Wikipedia, I suggest you first read this Wikipedia guide page on notability to see if your people pass the basic test of notability. Unfortunately, these Greystones additions are not famous people though they may be local characters and known locally. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and these people will likely never be regarded as famous enough for any encyclopaedia. If you wish to contribute, Wikipedia will be happy to see constructive work so that others can benefit from greater encyclopaedic knowledge about Greystones or other articles that you have verifiable information about. ww2censor 03:07, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I have removed Juan Cullen, as I could not find any reference as to why they were Internationaly popular, googling for "Juan Cullen" +greystones returned zero hits. Regards, MartinRe 23:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Who are SWay/ I've never heard of them.

Citation checking
As the current debate seems to be centered over one paragraph, I've copied it here as there does still seem to be problems with uncited claims:

Regards, MartinRe 11:46, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * "Currently the most topical issue ..." - looks okay enough, possibly better not to say "most topical", why not "A major topical issue"?
 * "some 6000+ submissions, with over half coming from outside the Greystones Delgany area" - are there sources for a) the 6000 submission figure, and b) that half are outside the area? If not, better to remove unverified claims.
 * "Those in favour look forward ..." - citation? "those in favour" sound worringly like weasal words
 * "The coastal erosion will also be much reduced by the plan" - citation? According to whom/what study?
 * "All inhabitants are in favour.." citation? "All inhabitants" needs a WP:RS to avoid being another weasal word

 * Nice job Martin on revision of the topical issue and the external links. Let's hope the vandals stay off it, otherwise we shall have to protect it for registered users only as the same people keep adding the same non-notables over and over again. ww2censor 15:48, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Cheers, nice to be noticed :) I don't think protection will be necessary, as relatively speaking, this is getting very few edits, well within the limit of being reverted by other editors. It would be nice to have a source for the 6,000 submissions, though. I felt it was reasonable to leave in for the moment as from the searches I did several blogs came up with similar figures, but as blogs aren't reliable sources I didn't list them as a source, but it did give me enough confidence that a source could be found, so left it in, but uncited for the moment. Regards, MartinRe 19:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * 6,000 does seem like the number and this Irish Independent citation (you might need to register {free} to view it) seems like a reasonable one as does this one . Hope that helps clarify the number of submissions. ww2censor 01:39, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Perfect. (You can see the figure without registering by going to http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?issue_id=13862 which shows the headlines, from which I got the publication date and verified the figure. I had found the second link myself, but as it described itself as a blog, I was wary of putting it in as the only source. Regards, MartinRe 10:07, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Nice one! - Thanks for finally sorting out that piece. Jhonan talk 10:59, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Regular vandalism
As I mentioned here, and on the Irish Wikipedian's page, I think this page really needs some protection from anonymous users. Some of you have been reverting repeated vandalism here as i have too. I would do it but am not sure how, so maybe you guys know better. Don't you think it is about time we make this vandalism more difficult? ww2censor 01:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I don't think semi-protection is necessary at this stage. The recent edits have been easily reverted by several editors, and are infrequent enough that the benefits are outweighed by the downside of stopping all new/anon editors contributing. Plus, this has been ongoing over several weeks, and as protection is only applied for a limited time, it would only hide the problem for a day or two. If you want to apply for page protection, you can request it at WP:RPP but I would be surprised if it was done, for the above reasons. The alternatives to protection (other editors reverting) seem to be working well enough, and the additions are only done once a day, so not a big issue, in the scheme of things. Regards, MartinRe 08:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Regarding anti-development (of ANY kind) POV being inserted into articles about Greystones; the same happened to Blackrock, which started to read like some absolutist preservationist tract. Ditto Dún Laoghaire, and numerous roads articles. It would appear some people regard promoting a POV as the primary function of Wiki! (Sarah777 00:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC))

The text about population growth doesn't make a lot of sense and is inconsistent...
As it stands, it reads :- "Greystones has experienced a huge increase in its population since the 1970s, with the construction of several large housing estates. As of the national census of 2002, Greystones had a population of 7,315, making it the third largest town in County Wicklow. There is currently large-scale construction at Charlesland, including new housing and retail developments just south of the town with over '''1,000 dwelling units. Preliminary 2006 Census figures show a small decrease of 209 in Greystones' population leaving it at 7,106.

Indeed, the population of Greystones has expanded steadily over the last 25 years. Some residents are concerned that over-population may result, and the town and its surrounding landscapes could be damaged."

So has the population of Greystones "expanded steadily over the last 25 years", (a timeframe starting in 1982, which I'm pretty sure is factually wrong), or has it experienced "a huge increase since the 1970's" ? (The 2 phrases are not synonymous). Turning to wikipedia to resolve this puzzle, I find the population has in fact declined between 2002 and 2006.BUT there were 1000 dwellling units built in Charlesland (so they must all be empty, or something).

Snarkiness aside, I'd go ahead and change it to something better, but I'm not entirely sure of the explanation of the census decline. The Charlesland dwellings clearly exist, and are largely not empty. I suspect that Charlesland isn't regarded by the CSO as being in Greystones, but don't have time to research it now. Anyone around who's better informed and could confirm this ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alanperkins (talk • contribs) 05:56, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

Blindingly true

I was glad to find this note here, but surprised that the guardians of probity such as Rory and WW2censor or whatever have allowed the ludicrously inaccurate entry on population to stand. The CSO figures refer only to a strictly-defined area of territory which is not congruent with what either most people or the county council define as 'Greystones', and certainly does not include Charlesland or several other large-scale housing developments nearby. The result is that the figure of just over 7000 bears no relationship to the true population of Greystones, which is closer to 17,000 now and expected to rise to over 22,000 by 2010.

Unfortunately, I know that if I edit the entry to reflect the actuality these self-important guardians of the Greystones entry, whose over-conservative approach you can taste from their entries above, will delete it and reinsert these ludicrous figures. Just as well the true population is reflected in voting figures -- perhaps Rory and his cohort would care to check the figures from ALL Greystones' voting districts from the election on May 24 and find out just how wrong their choice of figures is.

For example, figures from the 2002 census for persons over one year old & in their usual residence on the night of the census are: Greystones 11,423 ( For 2006, a similar figure is Greystones 14,569

I suggest the all-powerful ones make a phone call to the CSO to find out where they have gone wrong and are so dazzlingly misleading wikipedis users with information which is plain wrong! Advice? If you don't know what you're doing, don't do it. Bwmiller 15:32, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Population figures are plain wrong = untrue = inaccurate = misleading
Concerns expressed about the figures given for Greystones' population have not been addressed by the page bosses. Why not? The population figures are plain wrong! (They've been selected from the wrong CSO table, thus betraying the ignorance of the authors, who do not appear to have signed their work...)

Take a look at the previous topic on population for some clues, lads & lassies...

Bwmiller 15:54, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

As another minder of the Greystones article I might add that you have a point, This very debate was is replicated somewhere (can't remember where) where one editor insisted in reducing "grossly inflated population figures" for Dublin, Cork, etcetera by reverting to the population of the core City Council only; thus Dublin ended up with a population of 500,000 or so. From memory, the debate ended with Dublin getting it's 1.2 million restored on the basis that a local authority administrative area doesn't necessarily define the population of a town/city when the commonly accepted boundaries are very different. Charlesland is certainly in Greystones in my view; indeed a case could be made that Delgany and Kilcoole are now merely parts of Greystones - but of course by the same reasoning Bray is part of Dublin's population. Thank God for Bray head and the Little Sugar Loaf! (Sarah777 22:28, 3 June 2007 (UTC))

I think I see the difficulty. I live in Greystones, and I don't regard Charlesland as being in Greystones (Are you a resident, Sarah777 ?). But that's just my personal opinion, of course. The fact remains, the article is inconsistent .. either ignore Charlesland entirely (or mention it as a new town being built south of Greystones), or include Charlesland in the population figures. Or,possibly, (briefly) summarise the whole ambiguity ? Alanperkins 22:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Certainly am a resident, I parked the trailer permanently some years back! It does surprise me to hear that Charlesland is considered by anyone not to be part of Greystones though....never heard that one before. It is, after all, a mere few hundred meters from Greystones Main Street. (Sarah777 22:59, 4 June 2007 (UTC))

Mmmm... Point is, folks, that certain powers that be do regard the population of Greystones as including Charlesland and certain other places -- Killincarrig, Delgany, Blacklion -- Planning concerns dominate here, as well as political, and as a result what is normal usage should rule when establishing population. The planners say the population of Greystones is certainly over 16,000 by now, but Wikipedia is telling the entire world that they are wrong by 10,000 people or so... Get a grip!

Interesting, too, that these immortals, the page pedants, are apparently uninterested in these discussions... do they read them? They certainly don't respond... It makes you wonder about the accuracy of other Wiki pages, doesn't it? Maybe I'll go back to Britannica...

Bwmiller 18:00, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Good edit. Don't go; sensible folk are rare enough here! (Sarah777 20:30, 12 June 2007 (UTC))

OK, Sarah, I'll stay a while longer. Quis custodiet? and all that... But it really amazes me that the Page Pedants, so insistent on OBSERVING THE RULES and removing POV, can get the FACTS completely wrong (and then stay away from the discussion). each day, we learn anew. Bwmiller 12:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't be entirely happy with the current text on this issue, but can't formulate a rule whereby I can change it. The fact remains that there's another part of the CSO document where they present the c. 7000 figure for the population of Greystones. Sarah777, I don't think the analogy of Dublin applies .. no one would argue that UCD isn't in Dublin, yet it's outside the corporation area. There's a broad consensus that "Dublin" refers to an area other than it's strict local authority area. I don't believe such a consensus exists for Greystones :- that it includes Delgany, for example. Ask a Delgany homeowner if they live in Greystones (house prices are higher in Delgany, they'll say no). Ask a UCD student if they're studying in Dublin, 99.99% will say yes. So the issue is more complex than the current text suggests. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.141.97.62 (talk • contribs) 02:33, June 24, 2007

Hi there completely anonymous unsigned person! True on the issue of what a Delgany resident would say; but using that as a guideline, what Charlesland resident wouldn't simply say "Greystones" if asked? And Delgany, Kilcoole, Killlincarrig - as they merge into a single conurbation; what is the collective name? I looked up the OSi Greystones map and it covers 4 pages; two are called "Greystones" and cover Greystones as far south as the Rugby Club and west to Kindlestown; the next two are called "Delgany" and include Charlesland! (as well as Greystones village; Kindlestwon, Killincarrig). Seems to suggest that whatever the name, the place is all the one! (Sarah777 11:38, 24 June 2007 (UTC))

Ah, yes, the completely anonymous unsigned editors and self-appointed guardians of probity — perhaps you'd care to read Wiki's own guidelines on signatures, and observe them?

Look:

Signing your posts on talk pages and other Wikipedia discourse (but not on articles) is not only good etiquette; it also facilitates discussion by helping other users to identify the author of a particular comment, to navigate talk pages, and to address specific comments to the relevant user(s), among other things. Discussion is an important part of collaborative editing as it helps other users to understand the progress and evolution of a work.

Signatures on Wikipedia identify you as a user, and your contributions to Wikipedia. They encourage civility in discussions by identifying the author of a particular comment, and the date and time at which it was made. Because of that, having an uncivil signature is strongly discouraged (in some cases, to the point of blocking the user until they change it). In general, anything that is not allowed in a user name should not be used in a signature either.

'''Good ETIQUETTE; civility; facilitating good editing... etc.'''

C'mon, anonymous IP number geeks, start SIGNING. Bwmiller 02:08, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Neutrality of marina section
I really think this section has to be toned down a lot. A couple of points - in a town of 14,569 people, 6,200 complaints does not constitute a majority, and it is not encyclopedic to say that "its seems to". But further to this point, I'd like to mention this link, which quotes an Irish Times article saying that "many of the 5,500 submissions had come from outside Greystones".

Secondly, this sentence: ''The Board requested the developers to make certain changes. However, it appears that the developer and county council ignored a number of these recommendations.'' I think it requires either a "citation needed" stamp, or to simply be deleted. Schcambo 11:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Problems with your suggestions:

Of the total population, many are under 18. 6,200 objections most likely represents a majority of the adult population, entitled to vote, etc etc. So adding the word 'adult' would be enough to increase acccuracy;

The Irish Times article you refer to did not state that many submissions had come from outside Greystones — it quoted a Wicklow County Council spokesmouth as alleging this, a claim later disproved, though not relevant to begin with, as anyone may have an interest in the outcome of a development and is entitled to object irrespective of place of residence under Irish planning law. Here's the actual quote from wicklow.com: The Irish Times reported a Wicklow County Council spokesperson saying that many of the 5,500 submissions had come from outside Greystones...

'Citation needed': Yes, in the same sense as the medieval scholastics required 'citations', condemning Europa to centuries of ignorance. There is no official textual source for this, but if you had attended the second oral hearing you would have come to the same conclusion. As you did not, perhaps you'd like to check with Bord Pleanala what requests it made of the developers, WCC & Sispar, at the first hearing and then compare their actual responses to those requests, here. --Bwmiller 01:34, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Let's make it easy: The letter from Bord Pleanala to WCC. The written response from WCC/Sispar: and here:. Thing is, you only have to read the documentation to see how the council, which is supposed to act in the interests of the people of Wicklow, and its partner in the PPP, set out to get their way irrespective of the popular view or of the Bord's requirements. If you think this is not a scandal, what can I say? However, in respect of neutrality and POV in Wiki articles, it demonstrates that if there is bias in this entry, it's in favour of the development. Bwmiller 13:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Schcambo, I've checked the guidelines and I feel you have wrongly tagged this page entry as not neutral. Have a look: The editor who adds the tag must address the issues on the talk page, pointing to specific issues that are actionable within the content policies, namely Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Simply being of the opinion that a page is not neutral is not sufficient to justify the addition of the tag. Tags should be added as a last resort. --Bwmiller 15:47, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

On your last point their, stop trying to avoid the argument. I pointed to two very specific points whose neutrality I felt was questionable - i.e. the assertation that 6,200 complaints "seems to" make a majority, and the loose suggestion that WCC and the developers ignored a number of An Board Pleanála's changes.

On to the main point. Just because you clearly and angrily do not agree with what a WCC spokesperson has said, that does not mean you can dismiss it when it is a completely accurate and quotable source. You say this was "a claim later disproved", well I'll be damned but I'd like to place a citation needed stamp on that too! I've taken the liberty of showing you a direct source, well please do the same for me and for everyone else who uses this encyclopedia.

Now, as you've no doubt read on WP:CITE, a source should be provided for "All material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a source." There are written sources for just about everything, and I've no problem with you using any or all of the sources you've just given in the main article, as long as they relate to specific points, not to the futility with which medieval scholars condemned Europe or whatever it is you like to think. And as such, in an encyclopedia like Wiki, written sources can only carry a lot more weight than something you heard at an oral hearing, and while I don't doubt your honesty, you quite simply don't have any source to put here.

You seem to be forgetting that this is an encyclopedia, and that all I'm trying to do is make this specific section more accurate. This is not some kind of magazine where you can make wild accusations about the efficiency and work methods of WCC, and where you can self-proclaim such as a "scandal". I placed the tag here as an opening for some sort of debate, not to get dragged into the wheelings and dealings of Wicklow politics.

So please, don't reduce it to that. Schcambo 11:36, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I can't actually believe this - YOU were the one who added the part about how a majority of Greystones were against this, by changing a perfectly measured and objectable statement! Schcambo 11:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Schambo: Your latest revision was undone for two reasons. Here's what your note said: Read the source; the statement came from WCC who are a seperate entity to the developers. Also an 'inert' landfill, meaning non-toxic, is relevant in these circumstances.) 1. WCC are part of a PPP, which makes them a 'developer' in this case. WCC (jointly) applied for the planning permission and its top officials led the pro-plan side at Bord Pleanala hearings -- did you attend? I did.

2. 'Inert': this has not been proved, and evidence given to the hearing suggests strongly that the dump will be found not to be inert, and may contain dangerous wastes including chemicals, oil, medical waste etc. Given WCC's record in this (enormous illegal and dangerous dumps all over the 'Garden of Ireland'), it might be a good idea to supply citations for your insistence on 'inert'.

Bwmiller 14:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC) Block quote

Bwmiller: 1) First of all, the source quoted after this point clearly attributes the statement in question to WCC. By calling them the 'developers', you are creating ambiguity, meaning the statement could have been made by either WCC or Sispar. 2) "It might be a good idea to supply citations for your insistence on 'inert'." Well if you'd care to look at the citation directly after this point in the text, you'd see that that a source no less reputable than RTÉ have described it as an "inert landfill."

What you are doing, and have continued to do over a period of several months to this article, amounts to nothing more than casual vandalism and shameless POV pushing. If you don't stop, I really think we'll need an admin around here. Schcambo 16:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Schambo: If you're so hot on RTE's reputability as a citation source, why did you not read a little further in their report, where you would have seen this: Last summer, An Bord Pleanála informed the developers, Wicklow County Council and its private sector partner the Sispar Consortium, that it had deferred a decision on the plans, and sought further information and changes. (my emphasis) So RTE agrees with me that WCC is a developer in this case.

However, RTE is merely quoting WCC/Sispar when it asserts that the landfill is inert, though it does not make this attribution. RTE is not therefore the primary source for a citation; read the guidelines again.

The landfill's inertness is in fact still a moot point. You should read the transcript of the BP oral hearings — it would enlighten you as to what is evidentially established, what is not established, and what remains in dispute.

Frankly, by constantly reinserting the word 'inert' you are making an ass of yourself. It is your POV, WCC's POV, and Sispar's POV — but it has not been demonstrated.

Bwmiller (talk) 12:37, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but please read the article once again: In relation to an inert landfill which is on the site the board has agreed that it can stay, but has ordered that no houses be built on it. As you can quite clearly see, the assertion is made by An Bord Pleanála - the neutral party - not either WCC or Sispar. Once again, please don't quote me something you say you have heard in an oral hearing - show me a reference. I've reverted you and reported you to an admin for your constant casual vandalism and for violation of WP:NPA. Schcambo (talk) 18:21, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

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Power Blade

Power Blade, known in Japan as Power Blazer (パワーブレイザー), is an action platform video game published by Taito for the Nintendo Entertainment System. It was released in Japan on April 20, 1990, North America in March 1991, and in Europe on January 23, 1992. The game spawned a sequel, Power Blade 2, released in 1992.

Power Blade takes place in the colony of New Earth in the year 2191 and follows NOVA, the Chief Security Officer of a supercomputer called the Master Computer. He must restore the Master Computer — which has been taken offline by aliens — by retrieving data tapes located in six sectors. The game features gameplay similar to the Mega Man series, in which players can select any of the six levels to play. Armed with a boomerang, players must complete all six levels, overcoming obstacles and defeating any enemies in the way.

The game's name comes from an item found in several levels; The Power Suit is an item that looks like a helmet. When collected Nova automatically equips the metal suit. This allows the player to shoot energy blasts known as "Power Blades" in any of the 8 directions and through most surfaces.

Gameplay
The player controls NOVA in a two-dimensional platforming environment. The object is to restore the Master Computer by going into each of six sectors of the Master Computer, accessing their databases, and recovering their data tapes. The player is armed with a boomerang in which the player can fire in all eight directions, destroying enemies. The ability to attack in all eight directions is indeed a rarity in 2-dimensional NES/Famicom platform games. Throughout each sector, players can upgrade the power, range, and number of boomerangs by collecting various power-ups. The player has a life meter which decreases every time the player is hit by an enemy; players lose a life if their life meter runs out, if they fall into a pit, or if time runs out. The game ends when the player has lost all lives, but the game has a continue feature in which players can restart their game at the beginning of the level in which their game ended. Power Blade also has a password feature which allows players to restart the game at a specific checkpoint at any time.

In Power Blade, players can go through the six sectors in any order via a stage select screen. The objective in each sector is to find the agent who can give players access into that sector's database and then enter the database's security room, where players must defeat a security guard (boss) in order to gain access to the database itself and retrieve the tape. Once all six tapes have been gathered, the player gains access to the Master Computer's control center, where the player must destroy the alien overlord and restore the Master Computer back to its original state. One aspect of Power Blade that sets it apart from Power Blazer and Power Blade 2 is that if the player falls off the screen they will die. In the other two games the player simply falls back to the previous area.

Plot
After years of fighting that took millions of casualties, Earth is recovering from revolts in the 22nd century. In 2191, New Earth has a Master Computer that holds a secret database of the colony-planet's functioning. In wrong hands, the database could prove fatal to the whole planet. One day, aliens attack the Master Computer, making the Master control program malfunction. Nova, a lord of the ancient Power Blade is summoned to take care of the situation. The Power Blade is a glowing energy boomerang that Nova uses to defend himself.

In order to access the Master Computer's Control Center, Nova first has to obtain tape units from the six sectors surrounding the Master Computer. Each sector is heavily guarded by aliens, and Nova has to locate and contact an agent first to receive an ID card used to access the security room located at the same sector. After defeating the security room guards, Nova can obtain the sector's tape unit and use it to disarm the sector. After the six sectors have been disarmed, Nova must fight his way through the Control Center, destroy the Master Computer and restore order to the society.

Localization
Power Blade is a reworked and localized version of the Japanese Family Computer game Power Blazer, which was released also by Taito on April 20, 1990. The original title for North America was Power Mission, after reworking the game they went with the name Power Blade. The reworking included a complete overhaul of the levels, a change of the look of the main character from a cartoon–like robot to an Arnold Schwarzenegger look–alike, and a significant improvement in gameplay controls. Other changes included the addition of agents who needed to be tracked down in each stage, power-ups that allowed you to throw multiple boomerangs, the ability to throw your boomerang in any direction, and a power suit that can be equipped by the player.

The title screen of the game features a picture of NOVA that closely resembles promotional images of Schwarzenegger in the 1984 film The Terminator. The box art, created by graphic artist Mike Winterbauer, also features a similar portrayal of NOVA. According to Winterbauer, "a certain movie star's lawyers" sent him a very unpleasant letter regarding the painting used for the cover. Winterbauer was able to prove that he had used a photograph of himself for reference and received no further unpleasant letters.

Power Blade first received coverage in the Western markets when it was first displayed at the Summer 1990 Consumer Electronics Show in Chicago. There, the game was called Power Mission and featured different character sprites from the finished version; Nintendo Power magazine called the game "mega action in the tradition of Mega Man II."

Reception
Power Blade garnered generally favorable reception from critics. Readers of Family Computer Magazine voted to give the game a 17.13 out of 30 score in a 1991 public poll. In 2009, IGN placed the title on their "Top 100 NES Games" list at #82.

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Nouvelle Vague (band)

Nouvelle Vague is a French cover band led by musicians Olivier Libaux and Marc Collin. Their name means "new wave" in French, and refers simultaneously to the French New Wave cinema movement of the 1960s, to the new wave music movement of the 1970s and 1980s, which provides many of the songs that the band covers, and to bossa nova (Portuguese for "new wave"), a musical style that the band frequently uses in its arrangements.

The group's recordings and live performances have featured a large rotating cast of mostly female vocalists. Several of the artists who have performed with the band have also had successful solo careers, including Camille, Phoebe Killdeer, Mélanie Pain, and Nadéah Miranda. Libaux died in 2021 but the band continue to tour.

2004: Nouvelle Vague
The group's first album, the self-titled Nouvelle Vague, was released in 2004. Explaining how the project came about, Libaux later said: "Marc Collin and I were both musicians and producers in the French music industry when, in 2003, Marc called me with this very strange idea of covering Love Will Tear Us Apart in a bossa nova version. I thought this idea was absolutely crazy but very exciting. So we decided to get into the studio and try it out as soon as possible. Then we did Just Can't Get Enough and Guns Of Brixton. We put the album together in just eight months. And after that we called ourselves Nouvelle Vague ... and that's the story!"

The songs on the first album were recorded with female vocalists who reportedly had not previously heard the songs they would be singing. Eight singers feature on the album in total, including Eloisia, Camille, who performs four songs, and Mélanie Pain, who sings on two tracks. The album features remakes of songs by XTC, Modern English, Killing Joke, The Clash, Joy Division, Tuxedomoon, The Cure, and The Undertones. The album was a commercial success, peaking at number 69 in the French album charts and spending a total of 39 weeks in the top 200. In 2006 it was reported that the album had sold more than 200,000 copies worldwide.

2006: Bande à Part

The group's second album, Bande à Part, released in 2006, was again a commercial success. It charted in several European countries, peaking at number 23 in the French album charts, number 15 in the German charts, number 8 in Portugal, and reaching number 79 in the UK Albums Chart. The album includes versions of the Buzzcocks song, "Ever Fallen in Love (With Someone You Shouldn't've)", of New Order's "Blue Monday", "The Killing Moon" by Echo & the Bunnymen, "Don't Go" by Yazoo, "Eisbär" by Grauzone, and "Heart of Glass" by Blondie.

In 2008, Collin released an album titled Hollywood, mon amour, consisting of recordings made following the Nouvelle Vague formula, of songs from 1980s film soundtracks. The album includes new versions of "Eye of the Tiger" from Rocky III, and of the song "Footloose" from the 1984 film of the same name. Morcheeba's Skye Edwards performs versions of Duran Duran's James Bond theme song "A View to a Kill", and of Blondie's "Call Me" (which features in the 1980 film American Gigolo). The actress and singer Juliette Lewis performs a new arrangement of "This Is Not America" (from the 1985 film The Falcon and the Snowman). The album also features performances by the Israeli-French singer Yael Naim, by the Brazilian musician Cibelle, and by the Australian singer Nadéah Miranda, who toured with Nouvelle Vague for a time. A reviewer wrote of the album, "The results can be more than surprising – who would have thought that Arthur's Theme (Best That You Can Do) could be transformed from nauseating manufactured rubbish into something sultry, smooth and genuinely romantic?"

2009: 3
On 3 Depeche Mode's Martin Gore sings "Master and Servant" with Nouvelle Vague singer Mélanie Pain; Ian McCulloch of Echo & the Bunnymen duets with Pain on "All My Colours"; Marina Celeste performs "Our Lips Are Sealed" with Terry Hall of The Specials and Fun Boy Three; and Magazine's "Parade" is sung by Barry Adamson and Nouvelle Vague's Nadeah Miranda. For additional tracks that did not make the final album, Chris Bailey from Australian rockers The Saints performs a duet, likewise Samy Birnbach of Belgian new-wavers Minimal Compact.

2010: Best of and Couleurs sur Paris
In 2010 the group released an album of French-language remakes, Couleurs sur Paris. The album features guest appearances from some well-known musicians, including Vanessa Paradis, Olivia Ruiz, and Cœur de pirate. It also features an appearance by Camille, who returns to perform a version of the song Putain putain by the Belgian band TC Matic.

In the same year, the group also released a fifteen-track Best of compilation. A special edition version of the compilation features an additional disc of rare and unreleased material.

The band's critical and commercial success peaked with the release of their second album, Bande à Part. With the release of 3 and Couleurs sur Paris, critics gave the band less attention. The band subsequently went into hiatus, releasing no new material and performing few live shows. Collin later explained this hiatus, saying, "I was bored of myself doing covers," and citing diminishing critical acclaim: "With the first and second albums, all the media said: 'This is a great idea, a great rendition' – and after the third album it was suddenly, 'OK, it's always the same thing, the same concept, we don't want to talk about it'."

2016: I Could Be Happy
A new album I Could Be Happy was released on 4 November. The title track, a cover of the song by Altered Images, was made available for download and digital streaming on 29 September.

Misc
In 2016 it was announced that the band would be releasing an "anniversary album" and a documentary, to be titled Nouvelle Vague by Nouvelle Vague and Some Friends. The album is expected to feature "four new remixes of existing material, four previously released covers re-recorded on location with traditional musicians in China, India, Mexico and Hungary, four new covers (provisional picks are tracks by The Ramones, Cocteau Twins, The Associates and Richard Hell) and – wait for it – four original songs."

A new EP entitled Athol Brose was released on 2 September 2016.

Singers
Several of the vocalists who have performed with Nouvelle Vague have subsequently found success as solo singers. Libaux has attributed this fact to Collin's talent for discovering female singers: "I think he is the best talent scout in the world for female singers. All the female singers we have worked with are just beginning their career. For these girls to be part of Nouvelle Vague for three years – meaning you play 200, 250 gigs – I think it's a very good way to learn about this job." The band's singers have included Camille, Phoebe Killdeer, Mélanie Pain, Nadéah Miranda, Gerald Toto, Helena Noguerra, Liset Alea, Mareva Galanter, Jenia Lubich and Elodie Frégé. In 2010 the band released a compilation featuring solo work by several of their vocalists, under the title Nouvelle Vague: The Singers. This includes Phoebe Killdeer & the Short Straws's "Fade Out Lines", which later became a major international hit when it was remixed by French producer The Avener, topping the charts in Germany, Spain, and Austria, and reaching number 3 in France and number 6 in Italy.

Studio albums

 * Nouvelle Vague (2004, Peacefrog)
 * Bande à part (2006, Peacefrog)
 * 3 (2009 Peacefrog)
 * Couleurs sur Paris (2010, Kwaidan)
 * Athol-Brose EP (2016, Kwaidan, digital only)
 * I Could Be Happy (2016, Kwaidan)
 * Algo Familiar EP (2017, Kwaidan, digital only)
 * Should I Stay or Should I Go? (2024, Kwaidan)

Live albums

 * Aula Magna 07.12.07 (2008, New Sound Dimensions)
 * Acoustic (2009, New Sound Dimensions)

Compilation albums

 * The Best of Nouvelle Vague (2009, Peacefrog)
 * Best Of (2010, Peacefrog/Kwaidan)
 * The Singers (2010, New Sound Dimensions), previously unreleased original songs compiled by Marc Collin
 * Rarities (2019, Kwaidan, digital only)
 * Curiosities (2019, Kwaidan/!K7)

DJ mixes by Marc Collin

 * Late Night Tales: Nouvelle Vague (2007, Azuli)
 * Coming Home (2007, Stereo Deluxe), compilation of soundtracks
 * Nouvelle Vague Presents: New Wave (2007, District 6), original and cover versions of new wave songs

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Banana River

The Banana River is a 31 mi lagoon that lies between Cape Canaveral and Merritt Island in Brevard County, Florida in the United States. It is part of the Indian River Lagoon system, and connects at its south end to the Indian River; it is the only part of the lagoon system not in the Intracoastal Waterway. It also has an outlet to the Atlantic Ocean via a lock into Port Canaveral. The lagoon includes salt marshes, mangrove swamps, seagrass beds, drift algae, oyster bars, tidal flats, and spoil islands, providing habitats for many marine species. These are brackish waters mixed of salt and fresh water; waist deep with a soft bottom sand/grass. Commercial and recreational activities in the lagoon generate more than US$ 800 million annually for the local economy.

Historically, the Banana River was a continuous waterway that completely separated Merritt Island from Cape Canaveral (which was considered part of the mainland until the construction of the Haulover Canal). In 1964, the Crawlerway was built at Kennedy Space Center, connecting Merritt Island to Cape Canaveral and dividing the Banana River into northern and southern lagoons.

Natural history
The lagoon contains dolphins, manatee, and stingrays.

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USS Ramapo

USS Ramapo (AO-12), was a Patoka-class oiler replenishment oiler. It was built under U.S. Shipping Board contract, was laid down on 16 January 1919 by the Newport News Shipbuilding & Dry Dock Co., Newport News, Virginia; launched on 11 September 1919; and commissioned on 15 November 1919.

Service history
Assigned to Caribbean shuttle runs after commissioning, Ramapo carried petroleum products from Port Arthur, Texas, to Guantanamo Bay and the Canal Zone until April 1920. Through 1922, Ramapo was employed to deliver fuel to ships and bases on the US Gulf and East coasts and in European waters. Transferred to the Pacific in 1922, Ramapo carried oil to ships and stations of the Pacific Fleet and made occasional trips to the Canal Zone and to the east coast until mid-1928, when the tanker began to supply the Asiatic Fleet on a regular schedule. Beginning on 21 June, she carried oil from San Pedro to the Philippines and China and, for the next nine years, averaged four round-trips annually. En route she performed collateral duties as a survey ship and collected data in central and western Pacific island groups for the Hydrographic Office.

On 7 February 1933, while cruising across the Pacific Ocean from Manila to San Diego, the ship encountered the tallest rogue wave ever recorded at the time, measuring 34 m in height.

In late 1937, Ramapo briefly interrupted her transpacific runs to discharge oil to ships and stations in the Aleutians, then resumed runs to East Asia, continuing them until the spring of 1941 when she was shifted to Hawaiian shuttle service. At Pearl Harbor when the Japanese attacked on 7 December, the tanker returned to San Pedro and made two round-trips to Bora Bora before resuming Alaskan shuttle runs. Arriving at Kodiak on 29 July 1942 on her first such run since 1937, she plied between Port Townsend and various mainland and Aleutian stations throughout World War II. Ramapo received one battle star for World War II service.

The Ramapo is credited with the rescue of the entire crew of the USS Wasmuth (DMS-15) on 27 December 1942. Wasmuth was escorting a convoy through a heavy Alaskan storm when two depth charges were wrenched from their tracks by the pounding sea, fell over the side, and exploded beneath the ship's fantail. The blasts carried away part of the ship's stern and the ship began to founder; in the gale, the pumps could not make headway against the inexorably rising water below. Despite the heavy sea, Ramapo came alongside the foundering Wasmuth. For three and a half hours, the tanker remained with the sinking high-speed minesweeper, battling the waves while successfully transferring his crew and two passengers.

The Ramapo completed her last run of the war at Seattle on 23 September 1945. On the 27th, she steamed south and on the 30th reported at San Francisco for inactivation. Decommissioned on 10 January 1946, Ramapo was struck from the list on 21 January and transferred to the Maritime Commission on 1 July.

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Tian Yuan (singer)

Tian Yuan (born 30 March 1985) is a Chinese singer-songwriter, actress, novelist and photographer. Born in Wuhan, China, she majored in English at Beijing Language and Culture University, and graduated in 2007.

Music career
At age of only 16, she joined local band Hopscotch as vocal and lyricist. The band was signed under to major label Modern Sky in 2002, and released their first English-language album that year, titled A Wishful Way. The album was influenced by trip hop and indie rock, and well received by some critics and general public in China due to its fresh sound. Tian Yuan's singing career paused temporarily when a contract dispute occurred between her and Modern Sky. Tian Yuan is now recording her first solo album under a new label, Dong Music. Her 11-song solo album Tian Yuan was released in 2010.

Writing career
In 2002, Tian released her English-language novel, Zebra Woods, which received some international acclaim, and wrote a collection of short stories while touring for A Wishful Way, which was later published in China. In May 2007, Tian Yuan released her second novel Double Mono, a novel about love, youth and self-discovery.

Acting career
Tian's acting debut was in the 2004 Hong Kong film Butterfly, which she starred as a lesbian singer, alongside Josie Ho. Her performance won an award as the Best New Performer at the 24th Hong Kong Film Award and Taiwan's Golden Horse Film Awards.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/White Dawg (3rd nomination)

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep. — Xezbeth 12:19, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

White Dawg

 * Prior VFD discussion : Votes for deletion/White Dawg/2005 May 25

this rapper is not notable and his annoying wiki edits are ruining our great encyclopedia. F White Dawg 18:01, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sup, BrowardPlaya? How does it feel to be up for deletion AGAIN? HAHAHAHAHA.... we're gonna keep putting this up until you get taken down. You have to win every time, and we only have to win once. That Bentley ain't yours. You ain't from no Westside. And you sure as hell have no right to call yourself a "nigga." Someone's gotta slap the teeth out your mouth, FOOL. I vote DELETE! Also I eat cock. TRU THUG 18:11, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

DELETE. This page has no business being on an encyclopedia. Keeping it up makes wikipedia look like a JOKE! Fan of REAL Hip-Hop 18:16, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep - Artist had a Top 20 hit on the Billboard rap charts in 1999, thereby meeting WP:MUSIC guidelines for inclusion. I'm also seeing a possible personal vendetta/abuse of VFD here. Sockpuppet limit has been reached at two. --FCYTravis 18:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep - VfD is a joke. Ashibaka (tock) 18:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Relistings should be valid but not within such a short period of time. Everyking 18:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. White Dawg is an embarrassment to Caucasians, the south, hip-hop, and himself.  That being said, he is, quite unfortunately, notable. jglc | t | c 19:36, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. As much as I despise (C)Rap music, this guy has over 16 million hits on Google.--Kross 20:11, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Hey now. No need to get offensive on rap music, there. After all, you do listen to Evanescence.jglc | t | c 20:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment Actually, if you put quotes around it, you get under 900 total for the "WhiteDawg" and "White Dawg" variants. --Xcali 21:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * keep please this shouldnt be allowed Yuckfoo 20:44, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * KEEP. Yo, I see that tha haterz have been active lately. It's aight, tho... it's all gravy. I ain't gonna let it get me down. But if you foolz seriously have a problem with me, let's quit playing internet games and handle this in the streetz like real gangstas! You heard what I said?! BrowardPlaya 20:49, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. This justifies my dislike of the rap genre.--Kross 21:34, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. That's the exact same logic that a racist uses: In high school, a white teacher acted in ignorance towards me. Therefore, all white people are evil. All this statement does is justify your (and my) dislike (if not outright contempt) of this one guy. jglc | t | c 01:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Except that's a race, which doesn't define intelligence, and contain both intelligent and unintelligent people. Rap on the other hand... -- Natalinasmpf 16:15, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Agree 110% with above. -Hmib 20:27, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Weak Keep, though I'd like to see the main picture replaced. The hand jesture is too easy to misinterpret as something offensive.  --Xcali 21:19, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep, has already survived VfD. --Angr/undefined 21:47, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep, has already survived VfD and does (just) meet the relevant criteria. --Jamieli 22:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep; on grounds that even if the article is presumed to be a waste of time, space and bandwidth, we're wasting more having to vote on it again and again and again. Samaritan 23:52, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Do a Request for arbitration or the likes if you have a problem with his edits, not another vfd. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 00:34, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Appears to meet Wikimusic criteria. Capitalistroadster 01:29, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per my previous vote on this. JamesBurns 06:07, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, bordering on speedy keep. This is the third VFD nomination on this article. I feel this is getting silly. This musician is notable. Sjakkalle (Check!)  06:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The user, on the other hand, has got to go. I agree strongly with CCrustacean. jglc | t | c 13:44, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Who, the nominator or BrowardPlaya? Everyking 15:17, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Can't we just wipe all of them out? (I wouldn't mind if "TRU THUG" was disappeared, too). jglc | t | c 15:19, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't know of any wrongdoing...this nomination was a little questionable consider the short span of time that has passed, but that isn't something we really punish. Everyking 15:26, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I would usually agree - the base policy being not to jump on new users - but looking at the comments left by "F White Dawg" and "TRU THUG" makes me fairly certain that their only purpose on wikipedia is negativity aimed at one particular user - BrowardBulldog. For a nice sample of his activities on Wikipedia, just look at the VfD entry for Wiked Wood. He has also been known to vandalise entries by placing an image of "White Dawg" next to a Bentley automobile in completely unrelated articles (such as Wealth and Rich). jglc | t | c 15:29, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The original nominator of this article, "User:Fuck White Dawg", was infinitely banned from Wikipedia yesterday for vandalism, establishing an offensive accout name, and violating the 3RR. Why is it that the history of this page begin with jglc's edits and not that of the nominator?  Hall Monitor 16:18, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm confused: I don't think that it does. When I look at the History, it begins with UncleG's edits (x2), and then mine. jglc | t | c 16:20, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * After looking more carefully at the edits, I think what happened was that the previous VfD on White Dawg was still active; therefore, when it was nom'd again, people began adding comments to the bottom of the previous discussion. UncleG archived the previous discussion and re-posted the pertinent (current) comments all at once.  I made the first edit to the freshly reposted VfD discussion. jglc | t | c 16:22, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The edit history for User:TRU THUG, FCYTravis, Ashibaka, Everyking, and User:Fuck White Dawg should be merged back in. Hall Monitor 16:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree; Can you do it, though? I don't have the personal knowledge of how to do such a merge. Sorry, too inexperienced. jglc | t | c 16:37, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * STRONG KEEP Yall just hatin on White Dawg cos he be flossin his ice and drivin in his Bentley. Bitches. -BrowardDon 02:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Account created less than an hour ago. --cesarb 02:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Likely a puppet of BrowardPlaya, with absolutely no name creativity. The people on both sides of this are being extremely obnoxious. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 02:20, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * I would guess that the people on both sides are really on the same side: that is, they're just a bunch of puerile simpletons who want to use Wikipedia as their little internet playpen. The fact that one of them happens to be notable enough for a Wikipedia entry is probably the most truly unfortunate coincidence that I have ever encountered. jglc | t | c 05:25, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Yet this user nominated 8Ball & MJG for deletion as "non-notable" --newkai 10:09, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep - VfD vandalism ("we're gonna keep putting this up until you get taken down. You have to win every time, and we only have to win once.") Aecis 09:21, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong keep - I personally hate all rap music and I've never even heard of this guy before, but he has about three albums out and is obviously notable, so it's idiotic to delete it. Cyclone49 10:01, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. He's obviously notable. Yup, our man White Puppy looks gormless enough for me to believe that he's popular. -- Hoary 08:11, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is just another attempt to take down a rapper's article because of personal dislike. Same is going on with 8Ball & MJG right now. newkai 09:28, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep Let the artist stay. He don't have to be popular or even "good" to be on Wiki. --Anittas 18:49, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep in accordance with WP:MUSIC and mitigate VfD vandalism. Hall Monitor 21:29, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Ignition (video game)

Track
This article says "Lost Ruins" is in Brazil, but according to this page: http://www.bobulous.org.uk/ignition/ruins.html, it's an Aztec temple. :|

^ While the above comment is correct, the real track name is "Lost Ruins". So the full description would be "Lost Aztec Temple Ruins" or something along those lines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.105.213.141 (talk) 15:32, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Abandonware?
Is this game abandonware now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.119.217.157 (talk) 17:33, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Nope: https://www.gog.com/game/ignition — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.38.166.204 (talk) 12:42, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Release date?
There seems to be some conflict on the date the game was published, on IGN it says it was released Dec 12 1996 (the date on the actual article) but steam and an aforementioned fan page both say it was some date in 1997 JamesKnowsJames (talk) 13:44, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

platforms
there game was originally only released for windows 95 and dos, with the option of using a 3dfx graphics mode. there was later a patch released for more modern versions of windows such as windows XP

After 2017, additional patches may have been developed to help the game run on Linux and Mac 77.105.213.141 (talk) 15:37, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Dvorak

2009
There should be a link to the Dvorak simplified keyboard article in my opinion. Mnitn (talk) 20:47, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

spelling / pronunciation
Can someone explain the purpose of the diacritical marks on the r and the a ? --Jerome Potts (talk) 18:05, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Dvorak is a slavic name and those marks are part of how the language is written. 74.126.230.53 (talk) 21:04, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Straight to the composer
I feel that when someone types in "Dvorak", Wikipedia should lead them to the composer Antonin Dvorak as his fame far eclipses the others'. Of course, a reader could click to the disambiguation page if they weren't looking for Antonin. 72.93.195.137 (talk) 12:57, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree. What evidence do you have that his fame "far eclipses" the others'? --Geniac (talk) 17:18, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Link totals from http://stats.grok.se/en/201112/Dvořák and similar follow. TimBentley (talk) 21:17, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

 * Dvořák-785
 * Antonín Dvořák-32769
 * Ann Dvorak-2393
 * August Dvorak-1142
 * Bill Dvořák-121
 * Dusty Dvorak-166
 * John C. Dvorak-3115
 * Josef Dvořák-125
 * Karel Dvořák (biathlete)-59 (other Karel has no article)
 * Max Dvořák-256
 * Milan Dvořák-154
 * Pavel Dvořák-143
 * Radek Dvořák-1106
 * Tomáš Dvořák-662
 * Vernon Dvorak-151
 * Dvorak Simplified Keyboard-51275
 * Dvorak encoding-1046
 * Dvorak (game)-518
 * Dvorak technique-1025
 * Dvorak Awards-120

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:48, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Dvořák → Dvorak – Alternatively could be moved to Dvořák (disambiguation). In either case Dvořák would be a redirect to Antonín Dvořák. Per the statistics I listed above, the fact that I only found one reference to someone on this list in 100 Ghits (same for Google News, although that seemed not to distinguish undiacriticed), and that I fixed over 25 links to either Dvořák or Dvorak all to Antonín Dvořák, make me think he is the primary topic. He also seems to be the primary topic with respect to long-term significance. For Dvorak there seems to be no primary topic between Antonín Dvořák and Dvorak Simplified Keyboard. Probably if the move succeeds Dvořak should redirect to Antonín Dvořák; all other redirects probably to the new location. TimBentley (talk) 21:36, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

 * support removing accents diacritics should not be on the disambiguation page, since several entries don't use them, and the plain form should be used for disambiguation pages. However, the current title with dios should redirect to the non-dio disambiguation page, especially with the Dvorak keyboard also being famous in computing. 76.65.128.132 (talk) 08:01, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

 * Support I don't see why you would ever want to have a DAB with diacritics. The version of a term with diacritics is never a common English-language search term, at least not compared to the version without. The No. 1 topic for "Dvorak" is the Dvorak Simplified Keyboard, which doesn't even use diacritics. Kauffner (talk) 08:12, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

 * Oppose -- There is a story that thefamous composer was so annoyed by the omission of the diacriticals in New York that he paid boys to go around correctign the posters. It would thus seem that the correct spelleing has them.  However, Dvorak should exist as a rediredct to this page.  Peterkingiron (talk) 23:49, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * But the dab page is not about the composer. —  AjaxSmack   03:05, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

 * Support the nomination proposal or Dvorak (disambiguation) (without diacritics). It doesn't really matter where Dvořák directs — not many English speakers will be typing that — but it should probably direct to the composer.  —  AjaxSmack   03:05, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
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Another Dvorak
Tomáš Dvořák is a young Czech composer and artist, becoming well-known and popular. See: http://fulcanellinewworld.blogspot.com/2010/07/machinarium.html http://www.floex.cz/en/floex-short_bio-en.pdf Lriley47 (talk) 17:18, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If he is notable, then write an article on him and add him to the page. However blogs do not count as WP:RS.  Peterkingiron (talk) 23:50, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I was hoping that someone else would take on the task; my health allows only limited participation. Perhaps he isn't notable; I'm not sure how to make that determination. However, perhaps these webpages where he is mentioned will help: Lriley47 (talk) 18:08, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machinarium --- "PC Gamer - Best Soundtrack of 2009"
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_Design
 * http://www.normanrecords.com/vinyl/115634-tomas-dvorak-machinarium#axzz1m64cIn3f
 * http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/25855/Interview_Floex_And_The_Music_Of_Machinarium.php%20%20

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Monocoupe 90

The Monocoupe 90 was a two-seat, light cabin airplane built by Donald A. Luscombe for Monocoupe Aircraft. The first Monocoupe (Model 5) was built in an abandoned church in Davenport, Iowa, and first flew on April 1, 1927. Various models were in production until the late 1940s.

Development
The Monocoupes were side-by-side two-seat lightplanes of mixed wood and steel-tube basic construction with fabric covering. A braced high-wing monoplane with fixed tailskid landing gear, and the reverse curve rear fuselage lines that were to become one of the signature identifier features of the Monocoupes. The fuselage framework was built up of welded steel tubing in a rigid, triangular-framed Warren truss form for the side panel structures, heavily faired to shape with dural metal sheet formers and wooden fairing strips. The wings were built up of solid spruce spars with wing ribs of basswood webs and spruce cap-strips. The leading edges were covered with dural metal sheet and the entire framework was covered in fabric.

The aircraft was powered originally by either a 60 hp (45 kW) Anzani engine or the unsuccessful 65 hp (48 kW) Detroit Air-Cat radial. The Model 22 was the first light aircraft awarded a type certificate (number 22) and in 1930 it was fitted with the Velie M-5 62 hp (46 kW) five-cylinder radial engine to become the Model 70.

In 1930 Monocoupe introduced the Model 90 with refined lines and a fuselage that was slightly longer and wider, this being sold in Model 90 and Model 90A versions with a 90 hp (67 kW) Lambert R-266 radial engine. The Monocoupe 90 DeLuxe introduced trailing edge flaps, wheel speed fairings and an improved engine cowling. The Model 90AF was fitted with a 115 hp (86 kW) Franklin engine. The Model 90AL had Avco Lycoming engines. The Model 90J was introduced in 1930 with a 90 hp (67 kW) Warner Scarab Jr engine.

The final two high performance Monocoupe models developed from the Model 90 were the Model 110 with a 110 hp (82 kW) Warner Scarab, and the Model 125 with a 125 hp (93 kW) Kinner B-5 engine. The Monocoupe 110 Special was a clipped wing racing aircraft. The Monocoupe Model 70V of 1932, had the low-powered 65 hp (48-kW) Velie M-5 engine reintroduced to provide more economical operation at the cost of a fall in performance.

In 1941 Monocoupe combined with three other companies to form Universal Molded Products Corp. 20 Model 90AFs were bought by the USAAF, who designated them the Universal L-7, for transfer to the Free French Forces. One was lost during delivery.

Aircraft production halted during World War II, resuming briefly in 1948-1950 under the name Monocoupe Airplane and Engine Corporation.

The last of this remarkable line of two-seat aircraft was the Monocoupe D-145 of 1934, a high-performance version with a slightly enlarged cabin and powered by a 145 hp (108 kW) Warner Super Scarab engine.

Variants

 * Monocoupe Model 5: prototype
 * Monocoupe Model 22: 60 hp (45 kW) Anzani engine or 65 hp (48 kW) Detroit Air Cat radial.
 * Monocoupe Model 70: Velie M-5 62 hp (46 kW) five-cylinder radial engine
 * Monocoupe Model 113: revised landing gear and a number of improvements
 * Monocoupe Monoprep: dedicated trainer similar to the Monocoupe 113
 * Monocoupe Monosport Model 1: air racing model, had a 110 hp (82 kW) Warner Scarab seven-cylinder radial engine
 * Monocoupe Monosport Model 2: air racing model, had a 100 hp (75 kW) Kinner K-5 radial engine
 * Monocoupe Model 90: longer wider fuselage
 * Monocoupe Model 90A: 90 hp (67 kW) Lambert R-266 radial engine
 * Monocoupe 90 DeLuxe: trailing edge flaps, wheel speed fairings and an improved engine cowling
 * Monocoupe Model 90AF: 115 hp (86 kW) Franklin engine
 * Monocoupe Model 90AL: Avco Lycoming engine
 * Monocoupe Model 90AW: with 145 hp Warner engine, Wing Span 32 ft. Length 20 ft. 5.75 in.
 * Monocoupe Model 110: 110 hp (82 kW) Warner Scarab engine
 * Monocoupe Model 110 Special: racing model, 110 hp (82 kW) Warner Scarab engine, shorter span
 * Monocoupe Model 125: 125 hp (93 kW) Kinner B-5 engine
 * Universal L-7: military version of the Model 90AF.
 * Monocoupe D-145: 145 hp (108 kW) Warner Super Scarab engine.

Operators
The majority of the Monocoupe 90s to be built were sold to and flown by private pilot owners.

19 delivered early 1943 by sea to Abu Sweir, Egypt, to be reassembled by RAF MU 109. Main delivery to create a flying school (GE 11) in Rayack, Syria, opening September 1, 1943. The Monocoupe 90 was too sensitive to be used for basic training and many accidents occurred until school disbandment January 4, 1944. One aircraft survived the war and remained on the French civil register until written-off in 1962. 5 aircraft delivered to Madagascar in early September 1943 and operated by Escadrille d'Avions Sanitaires et de Liaison (EASL = Liaison and Medical Flight) based at Ivato. EASL became Escadrille de Liaison et de Commandement (ELC) on January 1, 1944, then SAL-51 and last SLA-50. The last two Monocoupes were sold to local aéro-club in 1948.
 * 🇪🇸 Spain
 * Spanish Republican Air Force - Monocoupe 90 A
 * 🇫🇷 France
 * Free French Forces, later Armée de l'Air - Monocoupe 90 AF

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Sander

A sander is a power tool used to smooth surfaces by abrasion with sandpaper. Sanders have a means to attach the sandpaper and a mechanism to move it rapidly contained within a housing with means to handhold it or fix it to a workbench. Woodworking sanders are usually powered electrically, and those used in auto-body repair work are usually powered by compressed air. There are many different types of sanders for different purposes. Multipurpose power tools and electric drills may have sander attachments.

Types

Types of power sanders include:

 * Belt sander (hand-held or stationary)
 * Detail sander: A hand-held sander that uses a small vibrating head with a triangular piece of sandpaper attached. Used for sanding corners and very tight spaces. Also known as "mouse" or "corner" sanders.
 * Disc sander: A disc sander is most commonly implemented as a stationary machine that consists of a replaceable circular shaped sandpaper attached to a wheel turned by an electric motor or compressed air. The usually wooden work piece, (although other materials can be shaped and worked on such as plastics, metals and other soft materials), is sat on a front bench that can be adjusted to various angles. It can be used for rough or fine sanding depending on the sanding grit used.
 * Drum sander: A large sander that uses a rotating sanding drum. As with a planer, the operator adjusts feed rollers to feed the wood into the machine. The sander smooths it and sends it out the other side. Good for finishing large surfaces.
 * Flap sander or sanding flap wheel: A sanding attachment shaped like a Rolodex and used on a hand-held drill or mounted on a bench grinder for finishing curved surfaces.
 * Orbital sander: A hand-held sander that vibrates in small circles, or "orbits." The sanding disk spinning while moving simultaneously in small ellipses causes the orbital action that it is known for. Mostly used for fine sanding or where little material needs to be removed.
 * Oscillating spindle sander: A sander mounted on a spindle that both rotates and oscillates in and out or up and down along the axis of the spindle. Good for sanding curves and contours that would be difficult with hand or orbital sanding.
 * Profile sander: An industrial machine consisting of a powered transport with a series of workstations for performing shaping, sanding, or other finish operations on one or more edges of components in cabinetry, furniture, shelving, and other products. These machines create and finish decorative edges in an automated process using rotating 'shaping heads', 'sanding wheels', 'foil applicators' and other specialized equipment.
 * Random orbital sander: (also known as a palm sander) a hand-held power tool which sands in a random-orbit action of constant irregular overlapping circles.
 * Straight-line sander: A sander that vibrates in a straight line, instead of in circles. Good for places where hand sanding is tedious or "blocking" is required. Most are air-powered, a few electric. The first pneumatic straight line sander was patented by Otto Hendrickson in 1969.
 * Stroke sander: A large production sander that uses a hand-operated platen on a standard sanding belt to apply pressure. For large surfaces such as tabletops, doors, and cabinets.
 * Tabletop drum sander: A bench-top sander that uses a rotating drum. Much like a jointer, the operator adjusts the height of the grit, by changing the grit of sandpaper, to adjust the depth of cut. Wood is hand fed against the drum to achieve a flat, smooth surface. Can be used for surface sanding, edge sanding, stripping paint, cabinet doors, etc.
 * Wide-belt sander: A large sander similar in concept to a planer, but much larger. Uses a large sanding belt head instead of a planer's shaping head, and requires air from a separate source to tension the belt. For rough sanding large surfaces or finishing. Used mainly for manufacturing furniture and cabinets.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dymt

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE. Golbez 01:11, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Dymt
Non-notable term. Author of stub refers to, a nonsense thread on Tech Report Forums only significant for its subsequent number of following nonsensical posts. Znode 18:31, 2005 Jun 14 (UTC)
 * what the *%$&?! delete UkPaolo 18:44, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete My "Why should I care?" alarm is going off. --Xcali 20:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete non notable acronym. JamesBurns 06:53, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, I'm quite sure this will be increased beyond all wildest dreams. Alphax τεχ 07:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Del Norte County Airport

Del Norte County Regional Airport (Jack McNamara Field) is a public airport 3 miles northwest of Crescent City, in Del Norte County, California, United States. It has one airline flight per day to/from Oakland and Los Angeles/Hawthorne under the Essential Air Service program. The National Plan of Integrated Airport Systems for 2011–2015 categorized it as a primary commercial service airport (i.e. more than 10,000 enplanements per year).

History
The airfield was used during World War II as Crescent City Outlying Field supporting Naval Air Station Alameda. and a naval radio station at Point Saint George. High-frequency direction finding (HFDF) was used for radio intercept. These sites along the coast could track Japanese warships and merchant marine vessels as far away as the Western Pacific. The other stations in California were at Point Arguello, Farallon Islands and San Diego. Bainbridge Island, Washington also hosted a station.

Facilities and aircraft
The airport covers 544 acres (220 ha) at an elevation of 61 feet (19 m). It has two asphalt runways: 11/29 is 5,000 by 150 feet (1,524 x 46 m) and 17/35 is 5,001 by 150 feet (1,524 x 46 m).

In the year ending July 31, 2019; the airport had 12,565 aircraft operations, average 34 per day: 72% general aviation, 27% air taxi, and 1% military. 26 aircraft were then based at the airport: 65% single-engine and 35% multi-engine.

Historical airline service
By 1950 Southwest Airways Douglas DC-3s were flying to San Francisco, e.g. Crescent City - Eureka/Arcata - Fort Bragg/Mendocino - Ukiah - Santa Rosa - Vallejo/Napa - Oakland - San Francisco. Southwest Airways changed its name to Pacific Air Lines which in 1959 was flying DC-3s or Martin 4-0-4s Crescent City - Eureka/Arcata - San Francisco; Crescent City - Eureka/Arcata - Ukiah - Santa Rosa - San Francisco; or Crescent City - Eureka/Arcata - Redding - Red Bluff - Chico - Marysville/Yuba City - Sacramento - San Francisco. Also, nonstop between Crescent City and Medford, Oregon. By 1964 Pacific Air Lines was flying Fairchild F-27s and Martin 4-0-4s to Crescent City on similar multi-stop routings to San Francisco and nonstop to Portland. In 1968 Pacific Air Lines merged with Bonanza Air Lines and West Coast Airlines to form Air West which changed its name to Hughes Airwest in 1970. All Air West flights to the airport in 1968 were Fairchild F-27s. In 1972 Hughes Airwest F-27s flew San Francisco - Eureka/Arcata - Crescent City - North Bend, Oregon - Corvallis, Oregon - Portland, Oregon - Astoria, Oregon - Tacoma, Washington - Seattle. By 1980 Hughes Airwest was no longer serving the airport as it had retired its F-27s.

Several commuter airlines served the airport. In 1976 Eureka Aero Industries was flying nonstop to Eureka/Arcata continuing to Eureka's Murray Field airport with Cessna 402s. WestAir was serving the airport by the early 1980s and in 1985 was flying Cessna 402s nonstop to Eureka/Arcata and on to Sacramento. WestAir also offered connecting service via either Eureka/Arcata or Sacramento to San Francisco. WestAir became a United Express airline via a code sharing agreement with United Airlines and in 1994 was flying BAe Jetstream 31s Crescent City - Eureka/Arcata - Sacramento - San Francisco several times a day. In the late 1990s, WestAir was replaced by SkyWest Airlines which in 1999 was operating as United Express from the airport with nonstop and direct Embraer EMB-120 Brasilias to San Francisco International Airport.

In 2007 SkyWest operating as United Express was continuing to fly Embraer EMB-120s nonstop to both San Francisco and Eureka/Arcata with direct one-stop flights to Sacramento. SkyWest ended all United Express service into Crescent City in 2015. From August 2017, the only remaining passenger airline service, flown by PenAir with Saab 340s via a code sharing agreement with Alaska Airlines, operated nonstop to the Portland International Airport in Oregon. This service ended after PenAir filed for bankruptcy.

New airline jet service
On February 28, 2018 Contour Airlines announced it would begin flying an Embraer ERJ-135 regional jet between Crescent City and Oakland with service which began on April 11, 2018. This new service marked the first time Crescent City had scheduled passenger airline flights operated with a jet aircraft.

Passenger
According to FlightAware, scheduled passenger flights are currently being operated by Advanced Air with Dornier 328JET regional jets nonstop to Oakland (OAK).

Other sources

 * Essential Air Service documents (Docket DOT-OST-1997-2649) from the U.S. Department of Transportation:
 * Order 2004-7-29: re-selecting SkyWest, Inc., d/b/a United Express, to provide essential air service at Crescent City, California, at the annual subsidy rate of $816,025 per year for the period ending July 31, 2006.
 * Order 2006-6-15: re-selecting SkyWest Airlines, Inc., d/b/a United Express, to provide subsidized essential air service at Crescent City, California, for the two-year period from August 1, 2006, through July 31, 2008, at an annual rate of $957,025.
 * Order 2008-4-23: re-selecting SkyWest Airlines, Inc., d/b/a United Express, to provide essential air service at Crescent City, California, at an annual subsidy rate of $1,136,896, through July 31, 2010.
 * Order 2010-5-19: re-selecting SkyWest Airlines, Inc., d/b/a United Express, to provide essential air service (EAS) at Crescent City, California, at an annual subsidy rate of $1,781,888. The selection extends from August 1, 2010, through July 31, 2012.
 * Order 2012-5-21: re-selecting SkyWest Airlines, Inc., d/b/a United Express, to provide Essential Air Service (EAS) at Crescent City, California, for $1,996,959 annual subsidy.

title: Del Norte County Airport