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Talk:Cambie Street

Cambie planned as a rail corridor?
I removed this line from the article:

"plus an infinitely poorer quality journey for the millions of visitors and commuters using the system."

Because it's not clear why an underground system would result in "an infinitely poorer quality journey" and the "millions" figure is conjectural.

Also, can someone confirm the plans to use Cambie as a rail corridor? I'm not surprised at the concept (Guildford Way in Coquitlam went through the same thing, with space left for Skytrain but after NIMBYism they abandoned plans to build rail transit through that corridor when they finally got around to it), but this seems to be an unconfirmed statement for now.

Kelvinc 08:02, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I removed this statement:
 * The original Vancouver City Plan, as laid out at the beginning of the twentieth century, made provision for rail transit along several corridors. Three well-preserved examples are First Avenue, Twenty Fifth Avenue (now known as King Edward Avenue) and Cambie Street.

 * Those rail transit corridors can be seen today.  They form grassy boulevards down the middle of the streets.  Somehow, this original plan was lost, misplaced or forgotten.  For example, in the intervening decades several trees were planted along some of the boulevards, including non-native redwoods on Cambie Street.

I am quite certain that this is incorrect. I believe that the wide park boulevards was just the fashion at the time that these streets were built and had nothing to do with a rail corridor planning. I could not find any support of this theory anywhere, but there are a number of other wide boulevards that were built in other cities at that time. -- Webgeer 21:16, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

E. First Avenue was a rail corridor and accommodated the Burnaby Lake interurban line. As a result it is one of the only wide boulevard avenues in East Vancouver. The one other example of this in the Lower Mainland is Garden City/Granville/Railway in Richmond which follows the Marpole-Steveston Interurban route. In both these cases, a wide tree-lined boulevard street was build after the beside the road rail line was removed. I am not aware of any rail corridor planning related to the original layout of King George and Cambie. -- kpgokeef 21:54, May 20, 2008 (UTC)

POV
I think the following passage is a bit biased towards the Provincial Government. The introduction paragraph immediately jumps to the protesting along the corridor rather than providing an overview of Cambie's relationship with the Canada Line. The phrase "..successfully persuaded authorities to put the rail line in a tunnel instead of running it as a surface route" is an example of the below POV statements:

When proposals to build the Canada Line (formerly known as the Richmond-Airport-Vancouver or RAV Line) along Cambie Street first emerged, they were heavily protested by residents and business owners who wanted to keep the street as a heritage boulevard. They argued in favour of using the existing Arbutus Street rail corridor instead.

Once the decision was made to use the Cambie alignment for the Canada Line anyway, residents along the corridor successfully persuaded authorities to put the rail line in a tunnel instead of running it as a surface route. Nonetheless, the cut-and-cover method (which will be used to build the tunnel) will likely introduce much disruption to traffic and business along the corridor during the construction. As such, even though it costs less than using a tunnel boring machine, the plan still draws heavy criticism, especially from area residents and businesses. -- Selmo 07:31, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:King Kamehameha I Day

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Kamehameha is from dragon ball z. The transition into western society is extrememly difficult for many countries. Hawaii is one of the few places that transfered as well as it did. Kamehameha represents Hawaii royal classes and priestly classes ruling over their land. A native peoples land is extremely closely related to that cultures religious experience. Hawaii was a type of holy land for the Hawaiin people. they practised thier religion there and had a government also. The kahunas represent Hawaii's priestley class and they also are the surfers. Kamehameha Day is part of early hawaii and modern Hawaii. Where the microcosom of primitive people folk culture with the clash of modern euro-asian development. The clash also mirrors other American people-european people clashes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.56.51 (talk)

dragonball z
Does this have anything to do with dragonball z? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qbadge (talk • contribs) 04:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * NO, dammit.--Atlantima (talk) 14:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

No need to rage, bro. Surely they must be related in some way, whether it be the localization of the tv show, or the original intent of the writers. It seems weird that the name is spelled exactly the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.220.35.164 (talk) 20:53, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Protection
Temporary protection only for June 11 while this article is linked from the main page as a selected anniversary. Ever since it was listed on the main page, several vandalism attempts were made within the course of a single hour from different ip addresses. Page unprotection will happen on June 12. --Gerald Farinas 08:03, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Removed protection. --Gerald Farinas 02:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Why does the article not mention why the June, 11th is chosen to commemmorate. --Wendelin 10:47, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Pa‘u?
What does the word pa‘u mean? I only know the word from a TV show where it applies to a blue priestess, and I doubt there’s any relation. The article just uses the word without bothering to explain it, and there is no Pa‘u article. —Frungi 16:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Protection Again
Should be made yearly, or as long as the page links directly with the main page, more than 30 edits on 2 hours, it is a lot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonoel (talk • contribs) 05:14, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Protection Once Again
I personally had to edit the article twice in less than 5 minutes. Once it had the word KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAA (more or less) and the other time it had something like "goku lives forever". I agree with the idea of protecting it. Gigakight (talk) 07:38, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, it looks like User:Maelwys hasn't yet managed to revert the Goku picture, or at least my computer ain't showing it. I vote for protection as lonk as the day is linked from the main page or from the current events sidebox.74.131.105.46 (talk) 23:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm no Wikipedia OR psychology expert, but there's gotta be some easy behavioral way to discourage Dragonball Z references. Perhaps a simple "The Kamehameha (Turtle Destruction Wave) from Dragonball Z is in no way related to the Hawaiian monarch. See (new stub page for Dragonball Z)." My guess is people just want to be the first to announce that yes, it sounds similar to the show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.161.35 (talk) 12:21, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Royal Hawaiian Band
According to the Wikipedia article on the band (to which reference is made in this article), the band is the SECOND oldest municipal band in the nation, not the oldest. Which Wikipedia article has the correct information? 70.161.208.216 (talk) 14:25, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good catch. It appears to have been vandalism:  I've reverted it. Viriditas (talk) 13:06, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Feast of Kamehameha
In the early 19th century, missionaries mentioned celebrations during the reign of King Kamehameha II lasting from late April to May honoring the death of Kamehameha I and the accession of Kamehameha II. Do these celebrations count as early forms of Kamehameha Day?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:12, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

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Chris Broderick

Christopher Alan Broderick (born March 6, 1970) is an American musician, best known as a former guitarist of the thrash metal band Megadeth. He is also formerly the lead guitarist and keyboardist for Jag Panzer, appearing on four of the band's albums, The Age of Mastery, Thane to the Throne, Mechanized Warfare and Casting the Stones. Prior to joining Megadeth and while still in Jag Panzer, he served as a touring guitarist for Nevermore from 2001 to 2003, and again between 2006 and 2007. Following his departure from Megadeth, Broderick formed Act of Defiance in 2014. He joined Swedish metal band In Flames in 2019 as a touring guitarist, before becoming the band's permanent rhythm and lead guitarist in 2022.

Early years
Broderick started playing guitar when he was 11 years old, with one of his first guitar influences being Eddie Van Halen. His playing styles range from metal, classical, neoclassical, and jazz. As a teenager, Broderick took lessons in electric guitar, classical guitar, piano and violin several times a week and practiced each instrument for hours every day during the summer. He was a notable musician in the Denver music scene from 1988 and on, as a guitarist in Grey Haven and Killing Time, and as a guitarist and vocalist in Industrial Eden. Broderick has a degree in classical guitar music performance from the University of Denver's Lamont School of Music and started teaching guitar lessons in the early 1990s. He is heavily influenced by flamenco music and rates guitarists Paco de Lucia and Paco Peña highly.

Jag Panzer (1997–2008)
In 1997, guitarist Joey Tafolla left Jag Panzer for the second time, citing a lack of interest in playing heavy metal. Broderick was brought in as a replacement due to his technical guitar skills and stayed with the band for a decade until joining Megadeth in 2008. He played on four studio albums with the band, The Age of Mastery (1998) Thane to the Throne (2000), Mechanized Warfare (2001), Decade of the Nail Spiked Bat (2003) and Casting the Stones (2004), in addition to the video album The Era of Kings and Conflict (2002).

Nevermore (2001–2003, 2006–2007)
During the time period of 2000 to 2003, Broderick performed live with heavy metal band Nevermore. He rejoined the band as a touring guitarist in 2006 and was part of the live lineup until the end of 2007. Broderick appeared on the band's live and video album The Year of the Voyager released in 2008.

Megadeth (2008–2014)

In January 2008, Megadeth guitarist Glen Drover and his brother, then-Megadeth drummer Shawn Drover, suggested Broderick as a replacement for the former as his departure from the band was imminent. Following a meeting with Dave Mustaine, Broderick was officially announced as the new guitarist for Megadeth on January 14. He made his live debut with the band on February 4, 2008, in Finland and toured with them on Gigantour 2008. Broderick would go on to record three studio albums with the band, Endgame (2009), Thirteen (2011) and Super Collider (2013). He performed live with Megadeth as part of the Big Four of thrash metal along with Metallica, Slayer and Anthrax.

Due to extensive touring with Megadeth, Broderick was no longer be able to collaborate with Jag Panzer and Nevermore. Mustaine said that when he partnered up with Broderick, it reminded him of when "Ozzy Osbourne discovered Randy Rhoads." On March 8, 2009, Mustaine commented that he thought Broderick was the greatest guitarist Megadeth had ever had. In the then-current line up of the band, he was the youngest member in Megadeth. During his time with Megadeth, Broderick stopped playing his trademark seven-string guitar and switched to a six-string guitar. Broderick said that "Dave [Mustaine] felt a seven-string guitar wasn't an original thrash metal instrument. Therefore he felt it would be better if I used six strings."

On November 25, 2014, Broderick posted a message on his website stating that he was parting ways with Megadeth: "Due to artistic and musical differences, it is with great reluctance that I announce my departure from Megadeth to pursue my own musical direction. I want all of you to know how much I appreciate the amount that you the fans have accepted and respected me as a member of Megadeth for the last seven years, but it is time for me to move on. I wish Dave and everyone in Megadeth all the best. I am working on a few things of my own and hope that when they come out, you will all dig it."

Act of Defiance (2014–2019)
After leaving Megadeth, Broderick and former Megadeth drummer Shawn Drover formed Act of Defiance along with ex-Scar the Martyr frontman Henry Derek Bonner and former Shadows Fall guitarist Matt Bachand. The band released their debut album, Birth and the Burial, in 2015 and toured North America with Allegaeon in the fall of that year. Act of Defiance continued touring in support of the album throughout 2016 as a headliner and supporting act for Killswitch Engage and Hatebreed before starting work on their sophomore album. They released their second album, Old Scars, New Wounds, in 2017 and toured in support of the album the following year. Act of Defiance broke up in 2019 after Broderick joined In Flames as a touring guitarist. In January 2023, Broderick mentioned that the band was on hiatus as his main priority is In Flames.

In Flames (2019–present)
Broderick joined Swedish metal band In Flames in early 2019 as a touring rhythm guitarist. During the COVID-19 pandemic, Broderick taught online guitar lessons for students as touring stopped. He resumed touring with In Flames once the pandemic restrictions were lifted. Broderick officially joined the band in 2022, replacing Niclas Engelin.

Equipment
Broderick is currently endorsed by Jackson Guitars and has several six- and seven-string signature guitars with custom DiMarzio pickups, including a Pro Series Signature Soloist model, a USA Series Signature Soloist model and a custom shop signature CB2 Diabolic model. He was previously endorsed by Ibanez, and played RG and Prestige custom six- and seven-string guitar models with DiMarzio pickups until January 2011. Broderick has a signature line of DiMarzio pickups and has previously used Bare Knuckle Cold Sweat pickups. He is currently endorsed by ENGL Amps and Ernie Ball strings. Upon joining Megadeth in 2008, he switched from ENGL to Marshall Amps before returning to ENGL when joining In Flames in 2019. Broderick currently uses custom-made, 3D-printed thumb picks that holds the pick in place on the thumb. He has previously patented and sold a pick clip that converts picks into thumb picks.

Jag Panzer
Studio albums Video albums
 * The Age of Mastery (1998)
 * Thane to the Throne (2000)
 * Mechanized Warfare (2001)
 * Decade of the Nail Spiked Bat (2003)
 * Casting the Stones (2004)

 * The Era of Kings and Conflict (2002)

Megadeth
Studio albums Live/video albums
 * Endgame (2009)
 * Thirteen (2011)
 * Super Collider (2013)

Compilation albums
 * Rust in Peace Live (2010)
 * The Big 4 Live from Sofia, Bulgaria (2010)
 * Countdown to Extinction: Live (2013)

 * Warheads on Foreheads (2019)

Nevermore
Live/video albums Compilation albums
 * The Year of the Voyager (2008)

 * Manifesto Of Nevermore (2009)

Act of Defiance
Studio albums
 * Birth and the Burial (2015)
 * Old Scars, New Wounds (2017)

In Flames
Studio albums
 * Foregone (2023)

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 * Yeah, that would be ok. Main issue about Latvian cities (or towns?), were categorization. I thought, that large entities, such as Riga or Valmiera, are cities, and small entities, such as Kolka or Salaspils are towns. Currently there are 2 categories category:Towns and villages in Latvia and category:Cities in Latvia. Vajadzētu nodefinēt kritērijus, pēc kuriem tos attiecīgos rakstus bāzt vienā vai otrā kategorijā, šobrīd pie towns ir tādas lielas pilsētas, kā valmiera un ogre, bet pie cities ape un ikšķile, kas ir mazākas -Yyy 10:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I think we should categorize by legal status, so we could place all pilsētas in category cities (regardless from size), but other populated places in category towns (I'm curently using this strategy). See, while Durbe, for exemple, has population only of some 500 it is legaly pilsēta, Carnikava with population of 4000 is ciems. Or we could place republikas pilsētas in category cities, other pilsētas in towns and make another category for other populated places. P.S. Varbūt likums par apdzīvotu vietu statusa noteikšanu liksies interesants . Xil/talk 12:11, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, let's do so. This will mean depopulation of category:Towns and villages in Latvia, though (since most of articles there are about recognized cities). Also, term "city" has different meanings in american and british english. In american english, even small settlements can be called city. In british english, such entities would be towns. -Yyy 09:41, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Navicular bone

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A primate bone rather than just a human one, no? Latin navicula, "little boat" --Wetman 08:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe you're correct; I've removed that qualifier. --Dcfleck 13:06, 2005 Jun 11 (UTC)

 * It´s actually a mammal bone, most mammals have it. Horses have two bones called "navicular", the "true navicular" or central bone and the navicular sesamoid. --Lmalena (talk) 19:48, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

 * Please provide a source for this assertion; I am unable to verify this. Most diagrams show only one bone.   Montanabw (talk) 21:17, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

 * I work in pedal anatomy of ungulates, but you can consult the nomina anatomica veterinaria, names in latin. I also suggest this text: The homologies of the mammalian tarsal bones--Lmalena (talk) 13:29, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Montanabw, you are far from the true navicular in that page. In the foot you have, from the tip to the legs, falanges, metatarsal and tarsal bones; the navicular is part of the tarsal bones. In that pages they are only talking about the falanges, and the diagrams show only the distal half of the third metatarsal, you lack half foot in that diagrams. Veterinarians usually call the navicular of horses "central tarsal bone", but in biology is called navicular, as that´s the name of the bone for most mammals. --Lmalena (talk) 14:38, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

 * Lmalena, you cite a 1964 text that doesn't refer to horses or equines at all, plus you don't spell things properly and you removed sourced material. I kept some of your changes but restored material you removed and removed some commentary that wasn't necessary. I am not convinced that you know what you are talking about.  I COULD be convinced, but I need better evidence.   Montanabw (talk) 22:07, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

 * Sorry about the spelling, I´m not an english native speaker. I cited a Scientific text of 1964, and the Nomina Anatomica Veterinaria, that it´s the principal text about anatomy denominations for vets, tradicionally they must be in latin (look for "Os tarsi centrale", also called "Os naviculare"). The pdf has no figures, but in the ilustrated version, the example is usually a horse. I removed text because it spoke about cuneiforms normally fusing, a thing that doesn´t happen in healthy humans, and the link is broken, so I cannot check the original text. If you have access, you can consult these links: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1439-0264.1975.tb00637.x/pdf; http://journals.usamvcj.ro/veterinary/article/viewFile/3817/3540; http://users.uoa.gr/~aathanas/PDF/13.pdf; --Lmalena (talk) 14:28, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I removed the paragraph about the bone development as the text cited doesn´t say what there is in that paragraph nor speaks of an extra navicular: http://www.aafp.org/afp/1998/0201/p474.html. --Lmalena (talk) 14:52, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

 * I left the material on humans as you wrote it, as human anatomy is not my area and your source was acceptable. I did remove the contraction, they are informal, not used in formal, encyclopedia writing.  The source on the horse says "Os navicular" so I don't see the need for the additional text. English language sources state there is one "navicular bone" the one between the 2nd and 3rd phalanges.  Montanabw (talk) 23:23, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

 * Montanabw, a thing is that you don´t believe me, another it´s not believing the Nomina Anatomica or the scientific papers I cited. All of them are in english, all of them identify as "Os Naviculare" or just navicular the also called central tarsal bone. I´m not talking about the sesamoid not being "Os navicular", I´m saying that there is another "Os naviculare", the one that it´s homologous to the navicular of humans and any other mammal. --Lmalena (talk) 13:10, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

 * I think that we may have been talking across each other. Here is my point:  While I understand that the navicular in the human foot is the area analogous to the horse's hock, the point is that in the horse, the "navicular" bone is the sesamoid one; no one ever discusses the tarsal bones as such, in fact, other than your source, I cannot find ANYTHING referencing a "navicular" bone in the tarsal region of the horse (at least, not in English).  The article states that it is a sesamoid, and in my view, that is all that is needed. Google "navicular bone" or "navicular bone horse" and google images - you will not find (at least I couldn't) a single example showing the hock of the horse, only in the foot. I'm open to considering something that notes two bones with this name, but I need something that shows or tells BOTH, and not in Latin.  We have to be aware of WP:SYNTH here, especially when doing something that goes against "common knowledge," as this does.    Montanabw (talk) 17:45, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

 * How about the papers I cited, have you read them? The Nomina is in latin, but the other three are not. And please, check the Nomina out, if you are ruling it out for having the names in latin, you are against most vets in the world; the Nomina is made by the International Committee on Veterinary Gross Anatomical Nomenclature, not by a random person.

 * I already told you than in horses, the navicular is called "central tarsal bone", and you can find that in any hock diagram. Biologists are not going to use one name for horses and another for all the other mammals, so they use "navicular" for horses too, as you can read in the papers I cited. Human navicular and horse central tarsal are homologous, they have the same origin, structures, developement, insertions; they are also analogous, they have the same function. The distal sesamoid or the horse "navicular" is not analogous or homologous to the human navicular.

 * other texts: http://mypage.iu.edu/~pdpolly/Papers/Polly,%202007,%20Mammal%20limbs.pdf; http://books.google.com.ar/books?hl=en&lr=&id=J9EUAAAAIAAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PR8&dq=equus+navicular+tarsus&ots=sqCks32geD&sig=Q7Na_ipA3P8UHzrB9R18hR9AcBo#v=onepage&q=%20navicular%20&f=false; http://epub.ub.uni-muenchen.de/8251/1/8251.pdf; http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10914-010-9145-7/fulltext.html; --Lmalena (talk) 12:27, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

"Central tarsal bone" is what is said, then. None of your sources show a modern horse (that I can see) and most describe fossils. I get it about the latin name, but that is irrelevant in this context. I cannot tell you why the "navicular bone" in the horse names a different bone from the human, but the point is that I cannot find a hock diagram in English (Latin is a different issue) that labels the Central tarsal bone as the "navicular." EVERYTHING in English calls the bone in the horse hoof the "navicular." (I don't know why, but there you have it) As this seems to be a very important distinction to you, I added a sentence about the central tarsal bone, but the sources are not great, but please understand that in English, the hock bone is not called the "navicular." Montanabw (talk) 19:49, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

 * Some of those papers talk about the modern horse, they all described the navicular as the bone that it´s below the talus, and fossil horses are still horses. And just to clarify, there are more than one tarsal (hock) bone in the horse.
 * I don´t know why you consider that those sources are "not great", as most of them are from peer review papers, some of them very rename ones. Peer review publications are considered better than any kind of source in a scientific context, even better than books.

 * I think you mean "peer review". Basically, the peer reviewed ones you linked only give me an abstract, not the entire article (unless I want to buy it for $30).  The ones that aren't behind a paywall are mostly either in a foreign language, or were about fossils, or just had a list of latin names for things.  I'm not disputing that the latin name for the central tarsal bone is os navicular, I'm explaining that we don't call it that in horses when referrring to the "navicular bone"  in English, the "navicular" in horses is the one in the hoof, not the hock.  I'm not discussing Latin, I'm discussing English.   That's been my only point all along.  To change existing language violates the no original research and [{WP:SYNTH]] policies of wikipedia. Take a look at the edits I made to the article in the horse section and see if I have addressed your concerns about confusion between these two "foot bones".   Montanabw (talk) 21:16, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

 * You are right, "peer" review. All the papers are in english, I don´t know what foreing one you are talking about. Even if the author it´s not a native speaker, english papers have to have at least one english native speaker editor. Sorry if you don´t have access, I put all the ones I have access to; this one for example, a fossil Equus: http://users.uoa.gr/~aathanas/PDF/13.pdf. I know it is a fossil, I bringing you the biological publications, not the vets ones, because this is a difference between biologists and vets. You can try find another open publication in google scholar. I like the changes, that was my point all along, that there is a "navicular" in horses even if it´s not usually called by that name or there is a another bone called like that.

 * One of the papers above was in another language, my point is just that we need to use the vernacular because this isn't a medical journal. Do my edits to the article work for you?  (They are written in colloquial English and reference easy to read sources available in full text online).  Montanabw (talk) 22:43, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The central tarsal bone in equids is commonly called the "navicular" bone only by anatomists (denoted as the "true" navicular or scaphoid bone by vets) as it is analogous to the similarly named bone in humans but veterinarians and the majority of horse owners call the distal sesamoid bone the navicular bone (mentioned in this source). My guess as to the reason is that the bone in the hoof resembles a boat more than the tarsal bone (hearsay of course :). The source is old, but so is the Nomina Anatomica Veterinaria (that tome still gives me nightmares).  Froggerlaura  ribbit 08:20, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That and the bone happens to be in the horse's "foot", who knows...? But the point is vernacular versus scientific nomenclature needs sources (scaphoid bone, for example...)  Montanabw (talk) 23:09, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hello all,

Would it be possible to link the reference to Navicular Syndrome to the corresponding [Wikipedia page] ? I know this syndrome is a hot topic in equine veterinary studies and amongst equestrians, so a link may be helpful in directing people to additional information regarding the syndrome. This is especially helpful because the syndrome is often called simply "Navicular" amongst the equestrian community, so people searching for the syndrome likely encounter this page first.

Just a quick thought!

Carolynslu (talk) 18:51, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Legit point to me, I'll be bold and add something, feel free to tweak, refine or revert.  Montanabw (talk)  03:22, 11 February 2015 (UTC) Follow up:  never mind, it already is in the horse section.  No problem to me if someone thinks the article needs a hatnote or link in the lede.   Montanabw (talk)  03:23, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

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A bit specific?
I would have thought an article on the navicular bone might not be so specific to just horses and humans. I was reading through this (https://www.donqmedia.net/word-of-the-moment/plantigrade-digitigrade-and-ungulate/) thinking to myself that it might make more sense to structure the article in terms of form following function. Most folks with a decent understanding of anatomy will know how bone structure works. In the majority of higher-order land mammals, the navicular bone, the talus or the cuneiforms will each perform a broadly similar function. Nature loves a bit of copy-paste. I suppose what I was hoping for was an explanation on how the bone appears in plantigrades (e.g. bears), digitigrades (e.g. dogs) and ungulates (e.g. horses) and from there, how the bones differ. Shtanto (talk) 00:58, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

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Tarsal

Tarsal may refer to:

 * Tarsal artery (disambiguation)
 * Tarsal bone
 * Tarsal glands
 * tarsus (skeleton) (skeleton)
 * tarsus (eyelids) (eye)
 * superior tarsal muscle (eye)

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Talk:Schaumburg, Illinois

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That is one big village! Grace Note 08:13, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

County Template
Why was the DuPage county template in there. Schaumburg is in Cook county. I tried making it the Cook county template but either it doesn't exist or I did it wrong. Either way its better to have less information than wrong/misleading information.Chipotlehero 20:00, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

History of Schaumburg
This page really needs a history of Schaumburg section

WWW.SCHAUMBURGWEB.COM - Town history, Links to specific events and information about Scahuamburg and the surrounding area.

NPOV
There appears to be a chamber of commerce level of economic enthusiasm in the business section of this article.

 * No signature to this, but I agree, and made a change that links to a source for 2006. IF you have additional info or want more can be added from this or other sources to better explain Schaumburg.  Kidsheaven 23:55, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation
I just removed a claim that the village's name was pronounced "SHAHM-burg". This is bizarre. Growing up in the area and even working there briefly, I never heard this pronunciation; both SHAWM-burg (IPA /ɔ/) and SHOWM-burg (IPA /ɑʊ/), but never SHAHM-burg (IPA /a/). I just removed the sentence, but I'd be curious to hear from whoever put it in there in the first place. /blahedo (t) 01:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

 * [I just received the following counterargument by email, which I'm posting so that I can comment on it /blahedo (t)]
 * Our family moved there in 1961 or 1962 (I remeber that I was 3) and it was ALWAYS SHAHM-burg. Everyone pronounced it that way.  I moved away in 1980 (but only to Wheeling, the Arlington Heights, then Buffalo Grove), but I've been in the area my whole life.  It bugs me when "newcomers" pronounce it SHAWM-burg!

 * It doesn't have to make sense to you, so please put the comment back on Wiki.

 * Hoffman Estates was HAWF-man, if that makes you feel any better :-)

 * Remember, the residents of a place can pronounce the name however they want - just look at all the weirdo pronunciations out East.

 * p.s. dictionary.com and m-w.com both agree with me, I believe... sha:mburg (sent 21:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC))

 * I take your point that "the residents of a place can pronounce the name however they want", but in fact all the residents I've heard pronounce it either with the vowel /ɔ/ (as in "awwww...") or /ɑʊ/ ("ow!"). I'm perfectly willing to believe that the consensus used to be on /a/ ("aha!"), and that there are still some that pronounce it that way.  I certainly have not spoken with all 75,000 residents.  But that makes me even less inclined to post a pronunciation guide, since now all three obvious pronunciations are attested, so whichever one people guess, they won't be wrong.

 * I'm not able to account directly for the pronunciation guides given at dictionary.com and m-w.com, although I will note that although the latter shows a pronunciation symbol of "ä" (as in "father"), the audio file pronunciation uses the /ɔ/ vowel. /blahedo (t) 22:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I grew up in Schaumburg and I graduated from Schaumburg High School in 2001. I pronounce it "Shahmburg". I don't produce a "w" sound when I say the word, although I did hear it as an alternate pronounciation.

 * Born in Schaumburg in 1986 and graduated from SHS in 2004 - it's definitely "Shahmburg." It's funny, because I go to college in Ohio now, and when Ohioans try to say it, it always comes out "Shawmburg," which is just crazy sounding. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Christyjoy (talk • contribs).

 * Agreed, I was born in Schaumburg and have lived there for 21 years and its always been Schaumburg with the a being pronounced like father. There was a commercial for Prarie Rock and the announcer said it with the "w" sound and everyone I know agreed that it was ridiculous.

How pronounced all I know being in Chicago is "Shahmburg" way - "a" as in father. IF I understand correct that is what is used in all advertising on radio, television, etc. That said, I don't know that it belongs on the page???? Is there reason it should be included.? I will not decide that...kidsheaven@gmail.com 22:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Schaumburg schall et heiten
It should be: "Schaumburg schall et heiten". This is wrong in the german article, too. See "Schaumburger Deutsch-Amerikanische Gesellschaft e.V." ( http://www.sdag-shg.de/shgill_gestern.htm). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.144.176.132 (talk) 12:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC).

 * It's difficult to say. In my opinion it could be Low German (cf. schall, High German soll). The guy who said this had live at Reinsdorf before (according to the "Schaumburger Deutsch-Amerikanische Gesellschaft e.V." but I don't know if it's trustworthy). "Schaumburg schall et heiten" could be Westphalian or Eastphalian (cf. "et" [it] and "heiten" [to call]). Reinsdorf is located southwest of Hanover, where Eastphalian was/is spoken so it's quite possible that he said: "Schaumburg schall et heiten" . But it's also possible that he spoke Missingsch, i. e. a mixture of Low German (schall) and High German (es). "heisen" is more difficult to explain, it could be a misspelling or alternative spelling of High German "heißen". It is also possible that this spelling should indicate the guy's pronunciation which is typical for Northern Germany. However, I found only two sources in the internet proving that it must be "Schaumburg schall es heisen" - this article and its French version. The Low German version is used by four websites. --89.53.91.99 12:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Size of this place
How big can a village be? Surely this place is a town or something? Yet it is being called village and city in the same paragraph! --Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 18:26, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The official name of Schaumburg is 'Village of Schaumburg.' It says it right on their home page. I'm not certain what criteria is used in calling it a town, village, or city. See Village (United States) and related right here on Wikipedia. Andyross (talk) 21:39, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

According the the German Wikipedia Schaumburg has been granted (the) city rights 50 years ago. So it might be a village, but the legal status is those of a town. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.182.123.169 (talk) 13:37, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Library section opinion
Does the page really need to include a statement criticizing the public library's computer policies? This strikes me as editorial. Don Don (talk) 21:23, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

This entire article feels likes it written by the freaking mayor's office 75.4.137.247 (talk) 00:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Spelling of Schaumburg
On 19th-century maps of Illinois, both the village and the township were spelled Schaumberg. I have not researched the history of the name, but it clearly changed from SchaumBERG to SchaumBURG at some point in time, and a knowledgeable local historian is encouraged to add this bit of history to the article.

Taking this one step further, the German names in the article are spelled incorrectly.

Based on a quick Web search, the locale in Germany is spelled Grafschaft Schaumberg (not Schaumburg). The (apparently American) spelling of Grafschaft Schaumburg is widespread on the Web, however, including most related articles in Wikipedia. Perhaps folk etymology / spelling is the source of this apparent error; perhaps both spellings are now acceptable in Germany, which seems unlikely, given the difference in meaning of "berg" and "burg."

PlaysInPeoria (talk) 21:21, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Plagiarism
The first paragraph under the section Sarah's Grove is lifted verbatim from the source text. The Wikipedia text provided in that first paragraph provides no in-text attribution, no quotation marks, and no change in text. I have not compared the Wikipedia text in the History section with other sources, but I would predict that more of this cutting and pasting of source text exists. I don't think we should delete the entire section, but I think willing editors should help rewrite the Wikipedia text in their won words, and provide inline citations where needed. Nick the Dupager (talk) 20:51, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

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Non-encyclopedic - definition Epolk 08:14, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)
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Talk:Treasure hunt (game)

Make reference to Easter-egg hunts - expansion on this topic

Games, etc
I want to add a bunch of content about real treasure hunting, treasure hunters, etc. I started to do so, but it seems to me that putting it all into one article, along with the game, is probably the wrong way to go. So, I was thinking if maybe we should make this a disambig, and split the two up, and make two new pages (e.g. Treasure hunt (game) and Treasure hunting) for the actual content. Is that OK? Noel (talk) 18:24, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Ooops, I see we already have a Treasure hunting. So that answer the question of what to call the second one! Noel (talk) 18:25, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Pennsylvania Lottery
The Pennsylvania Lottery (USA) will start a 5-of-30 game called "Treasure Hunt" in May 2007. 216.179.123.201 20:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

 * This has been inserted in the article: is there any authentic connection, or just the words?--Wetman 06:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Geocaching
I think something might have to be done about geocaching" under adult games as it is also popular among children.

New additions
I have been trying to fit a page I wrote up into existing categories or groupings of similar pages. It is about the Clue Chaser online treasure hunts (although the treasure is not tangible) and was wondering if there was any relevance to this topic?--MisterrBen (talk) 17:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Treasure trails
I have inserted a paragraph describing the treasure trail as a genre of treasure hunt as this is a relatively new concept (a guided route with clues along the way). It is also necessary to help the public disambiguate from "Treasure Trail" which has another connotation. However I need to declare a conflict of interest since I am part of an organisation called Treasure Trails. I have tried to make the statement very objective and there is no link to an external website. I will keep my eyes open for an alternative verifiable source. K4thy67 (talk) 22:28, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

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