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M-72 (Michigan highway)

M-72 is a state trunkline highway in the US state of Michigan, running from Lake Huron to Lake Michigan across the northern part of the Lower Peninsula. The highway connects M-22 in Empire with US Highway 23 (US 23) in Harrisville. It is one of only three Michigan state trunklines that cross the Lower Peninsula, shore to shore. In between, M-72 runs across Northern Michigan woodland, agricultural areas of the Leelanau Peninsula near Traverse City, and the Au Sable River watershed. The trunkline also provides access to Camp Grayling, a National Guard training facility near the city of the same name. Traffic levels along the highway vary from approximately 800 vehicles a day on the east end to over 32,000 vehicles near Traverse City.

M-72 was first designated as a state highway by 1919 along a segment of its current route. It was extended southward in the mid-1920s and westward in the 1940s. One section of the modern highway added to M-72 in 1940 previously existed as M-208 in the 1930s east of Grayling. Another section of highway near Empire was disconnected from the rest of M-72 until the gap was eliminated later in the decade. All of M-72 was completely paved by the early 1960s. The highway was rerouted in a few places in the 1950s, and the last new segment shifted in 1973 near Kalkaska.

Route description
M-72 starts its trans-peninsular journey at M-22 in the community of Empire on the shores of Lake Michigan in the Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lakeshore. From there it runs easterly uphill through mixed farmland and forest to cross the base of the Leelanau Peninsula. As the highway approaches the city of Traverse City, the roadway runs downhill and weaves back and forth across the Leelanau – Grand Traverse county line. M-72 merges with M-22 to run concurrently in the section of Traverse City in Leelanau County and immediately cross the county line into Grand Traverse County. The two highways run along Grandview Parkway, a four-lane boulevard on the shore of the West Arm of Grand Traverse Bay. At the intersection of Grandview Parkway and Division Street, M-22 ends. US 31/M-37 run north along Division Street and turn east onto Grandview Parkway to join M-72. These three highways stay merged in a triple concurrency along the length of Grandview Parkway and across the Boardman River along the bay, bypassing downtown. They then follow Front Street until reaching Garfield Avenue east of downtown. At Garfield, M-37 turns north to run up the Old Mission Peninsula which separates the west and east arms of Grand Traverse Bay. US 31/M-72 continues east along the shores of the East Arm of Grand Traverse Bay and northward to a junction in Acme. M-72 turns east to cross rural eastern Grand Traverse County along rolling hills through the communities of Williamsburg and Barker Creek.

The highway crosses into Kalkaska County at Barker Creek and continues eastward to Kalkaska. There, M-72 meets US 131/M-66 (Cedar Street) on the north side of downtown, and M-72 turns south along Cedar Street and forms another triple concurrency through downtown. South of town, the highway crosses the Boardman River again, and M-72 turns east again headed toward the city of Grayling. M-66 follows M-72 to cross a set of railroad tracks that belong to the Great Lakes Central Railroad before leaving to follow its path to Lake City. M-72 crosses the Manistee River at the Kalkaska–Crawford county line and passes the northern shore of Lake Margrethe west of town in the Camp Grayling military reservation. North of the camp gate, M-72 joins M-93 into downtown Grayling. Together they meet James Street, which carries Business Loop I-75 (BL I-75). M-93 turns north to follow BL I-75 out of town, and M-72 turns south to follow it through downtown. At South Down River Road, M-72 turns east again to leave Grayling, crossing I-75 in the process. There is no direct access to I-75 from M-72. Instead traffic is directed to follow BL I-75 in either direction to get to the freeway.

In eastern Crawford County, M-72 runs through the Au Sable State Forest and crosses the South Branch of the Au Sable River on Smith Bridge. East of the river crossing, the trunkline intersects the northern terminus of M-18 before crossing into Oscoda County. M-72 continues east through Luzerne to Mio. M-72 merges with M-33 and turns north to cross the Au Sable River a second time in Mio. The highways pick up a concurrency with F-32 north of the river. The three roadways run together until F-32 turns west while M-33/M-72 continues east to Fairview. Fairview marks the northern and eastern end of the concurrency as M-33 turns north towards Atlanta, and M-72 continues easterly into Alcona County. North of Curran, M-72 merges southward with M-65 for approximately 7 mi before heading due east through the Barton City and Lincoln areas to Harrisville. M-72 ends at an intersection with US 23 in Harrisville, on the shores of Lake Huron.

M-72 is maintained by the Michigan Department of Transportation (MDOT) like all other parts of the state trunkline highway system. As a part of its maintenance duties, the department tracks the traffic volumes along its roads using a metric called average annual daily traffic (AADT). This figure is a calculation of the traffic level along a segment of roadway for any average day of the year. In 2009, the MDOT surveys found that the highest traffic levels along M-72 were the 33,720 vehicles per day in Traverse City. The lowest AADT was 807 vehicles near Hubbard Lake Road in Alcona County near Lincoln. Commercial traffic varied between the 555 trucks a day in Grayling and the 72 trucks daily west of Harrisville. M-72 has been listed on the National Highway System (NHS) between the intersection of Division Street and Grandview Parkway in Traverse City and the southern junction with BL I-75 in Grayling. The NHS is a network of roads important to the country's defense, mobility and economy. In addition to the NHS listing, M-72 has been included on the Lake Michigan Circle Tour along its segments concurrent with M-22 and US 31 in the Traverse City area.

History
M-72 was first designated by July 1, 1919, and it ran from the middle of Alcona County near Barton City east to Harrisville and then south along Lake Huron shore to Greenbush. Around 1927, the route was extended south to Oscoda and west through Luzerne to just east of Roscommon. The section of M-72 along the shoreline between Oscoda and Harrisville became part of US 23. in 1936. M-72 was extended westward on an earthen highway and then over the former M-208 to Grayling in 1940. From there M-72 was extended further to just south of Kalkaska along a section of highway previously designated M-76. A seven-mile (11 km) long discontinuous segment of highway some 45 mi west of Kalkaska near Empire was also redesignated as part of M-72. The section of highway south to Roscommon became M-144. By 1945, the western segment was extended east into Traverse City. The two segments were joined when M-72 was routed along US 31 through Traverse City to Acme by early 1948. From there, M-72 was routed along existing roads through Williamsburg to US 131/M-66 north of Kalkaska where it followed the latter highways through downtown to bridge the gap. With this addition to the routing, the road extended "shore to shore" from Lake Huron to Lake Michigan.

The Michigan State Highway Department rerouted M-33/M-72 near Fairview in late 1951 or early 1952, turning the former route back to local control. In the middle of 1953, the section of M-65/M-72 in Alcona County was straightened and paved. All but the western three miles (4.8 km) of the earthen highway section opened in 1940 were paved in 1957. By the middle of 1961, the highway would be paved in its entirety. A new section of highway was opened in 1973, rerouting M-66 and M-72 due west from their junction to US 131, bypassing a former routing north into Kalkaska.

In 2008, M-72 within Alcona County was named the "Hazen Shirley 'Kiki' Cuyler Memorial Highway" in honor of the Michigan native and Hall of Fame baseball player.

M-208
M-208 was a state trunkline highway in that served as a spur route from US 27 (current BL I-75) to the "Wakeley Bridge" in Crawford County in the 1930s. The highway was designated by 1936, and it was removed from the highway system in 1939. By the end of 1940, the roadway was redesignated as a part of the state highway system when M-72 was extended to the bridge from the east and then over the former M-208 to Grayling. The roadway has remained a state highway since.

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This is my own translation of the verse. --JRBliss 03:23, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

What actually happened to Salmacis?

In some other examples of this myth it is said the "Salmacis was no more". But in other examples it says nothing.

Was she actually destroyed or when she merged with hermaphroditus she became a voice in the back of his head. eg like cortana with master cheif. If the fist one is correct that would defeat the purpose of being merged. -- unsigned edit by Grimrecka 08:24, 26 Apr 2007
 * Ovid doesn't specify that, except that at least control of the body belonged to Hermaphroditus.

I wonder if there's a translation that's neither abridged nor shoehorned into unreadable poetry. Garth's version is especially painful to read (at least to dirty foreigners like me), others have most details butchered away. Preferably something like JRBliss' fragment. The story itself appears to be interesting, it's a shame it's inaccessible because of the Latin language going out of fashion. And no, Ovid did not use an archaic nor unreadable language when he wrote it, it's just a case of bitrot. --KiloByte (talk) 16:59, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

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Detroit Gems

The Detroit Gems were an American professional basketball team based in Detroit, Michigan. It played one season, 1946–47, in the Western Division of the National Basketball League, a predecessor organization to the National Basketball Association. Following the season, the franchise was sold to Minneapolis to become the Minneapolis Lakers, who are now the Los Angeles Lakers.

History
The Gems were a team mostly made up of local players and coached by Joel Mason. It started its season with an exhibition game against the Oshkosh All-Stars, a 54–69 loss. It started its 44-game regular season schedule on 11 November in Anderson, Indiana, with a loss against the Anderson Duffey Packers.

For the season, the Gems won only 4 out of 44 games, finishing last in the league. The franchise was put up for a sale following the season and purchased for US$15,000 by Ben Berger and Morris Chalfen and relocated to Minneapolis to become the Minneapolis Lakers.

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User:Bastel

Graduate Student in Political Science, Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, USA Interested in Politics, Music, Significant Figures, Literature, Latin America, Pop-Culture. I've recently started to try to tweak some articles towards NPOV and to remove the respective tag. Created Articles on
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 * Dia del amigo
 * Boys Are Stupid Throw Rocks at Them
 * rewrote Informal economy

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John Duncan

John Duncan may refer to:

Arts and entertainment

 * John Duncan (painter) (1866–1945), Scottish painter
 * John Duncan (artist) (born 1953), American artist and musician
 * Big John Duncan (born 1958), Scottish punk musician
 * John Duncan (harpist) (1904–1998), English musician

Law, military, and politics

 * John Duncan (Australian politician) (1845–1913), South Australian pastoralist and politician
 * John Duncan (Canadian politician) (born 1948), MP from British Columbia
 * John Duncan (New Zealand politician) (1848–1924), New Zealand politician
 * John D. C. Duncan Jr. (1884–1958), American politician and lawyer
 * John Edward Duncan (1884–1959), member of the New Zealand Legislative Council
 * John Duncan (US Administration) (born 1945), U.S. Department of the Treasury
 * John Riley Duncan (1850–1911), Texas lawman
 * John Duncan Sr. (1919–1988), U.S. Representative from Tennessee
 * John S. R. Duncan (1921–2006), British administrator in Sudan, then diplomat, high commissioner and ambassador
 * Jimmy Duncan (politician) (John James Duncan, Jr., born 1947), U.S. Representative from Tennessee, son of John Duncan, Sr., above
 * John Duncan (diplomat) (born 1958), British diplomat, ambassador for Multilateral Arms Control and Disarmament 2006–11
 * John Alton Duncan (1932–2007), Manitoba judge
 * John Duncan (British Army officer, born 1872) (1872–1948), British general
 * John Duncan (British Army officer, born 1870) (1870–1960), British general

Religion

 * John Duncan, a.k.a. John Dongan (fl. c. 1410), Manx religious leader
 * John Duncan (writer) (1721–1808), English miscellaneous writer and army chaplain
 * John Duncan (theologian) (1796–1870), aka Rabbi Duncan, Scottish religious leader and educator
 * John Duncan (priest) (born 1933), English Archdeacon of Birmingham from 1985 to 2001

Sports

 * Art Duncan (John Arthur Duncan, 1891–1975), Canadian ice hockey player
 * John Ross Duncan (born 1944), Australian cricketer
 * John Duncan (footballer) (1949–2022), Scottish football player and manager
 * John William Duncan (1885–1963), Welsh field hockey player

Others

 * John Duncan (author), American writer
 * John Duncan (botanist) (1794–1881), Scottish weaver and botanist
 * John Duncan (neuroscientist), (born 1953), British neuroscientist
 * John Duncan (surgeon) (1839–1899), Scottish surgeon, President of the Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh
 * John Duncan (weaver) (fl. 1800–1818), Scottish writer on weaving
 * John Duncan (traveller in Africa) (1805–1849), Scottish traveller in Africa
 * John Charles Duncan, American astronomer
 * John H. Duncan (1855–1929), American architect
 * John Holt Duncan (1820–1896), one of eight founders of Beta Theta Pi, a college fraternity at Miami University
 * John S. Duncan (born 1955), British neurologist

Johnny Duncan

 * Johnny Duncan (actor) (1923–2016), American actor
 * Johnny Duncan (bluegrass musician) (1931–2000), American skiffle and bluegrass musician
 * Johnny Duncan (country singer) (1938–2006), American country-music singer
 * Johnny Duncan (footballer) (1896–1966), Scottish football player and manager associated with Leicester City

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User talk:Aarondoucett

Hi there
I think I know you in real life :p

Are you the one that's friends with Mady (undisclosed last name) in the 8th grade? Winstontalk 01:37, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

In real life you were in my summer camp 2 years ago, I'm pretty sure. I'm the fruity 6th/7th grader who called himself Winston. I checked the history for the NHS page and found your username, which was a green light for "hey I know who this is!". My email is instantwinston@yahoo.com. My userpage is the result of a thorough search of the userbox pages for the most part, and the rest is just stuff I felt like typing. I don't edit much as I don't know what can get me in trouble here (*cough* huge misunderstanding). After that incident I kind of stopped editing for fear other edits could be mistaken for vandalism. Winstontalk 02:20, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

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Black hole electron

In physics, there is a speculative hypothesis that, if there were a black hole with the same mass, charge and angular momentum as an electron, it would share other properties of the electron. Most notably, Brandon Carter showed in 1968 that the magnetic moment of such an object would match that of an electron. This is interesting because calculations ignoring special relativity and treating the electron as a small rotating sphere of charge give a magnetic moment roughly half the experimental value (see Gyromagnetic ratio).

However, Carter's calculations also show that a would-be black hole with these parameters would be "super-extremal". Thus, unlike a true black hole, this object would display a naked singularity, meaning a singularity in spacetime not hidden behind an event horizon. It would also give rise to closed timelike curves.

Standard quantum electrodynamics (QED), currently the most comprehensive theory of particles, treats the electron as a point particle. There is no evidence that the electron is a black hole (or naked singularity) or not. Furthermore, since the electron is quantum-mechanical in nature, any description purely in terms of general relativity is paradoxical until a better model based on understanding of quantum nature of blackholes and gravitational behaviour of quantum particles is developed by research. Hence, the idea of a black hole electron remains strictly hypothetical.

Details
An article published in 1938 by Albert Einstein, Leopold Infeld, and Banesh Hoffmann showed that if elementary particles are treated as singularities in spacetime it is unnecessary to postulate geodesic motion as part of general relativity. The electron may be treated as such a singularity.

If one ignores the electron's angular momentum and charge, as well as the effects of quantum mechanics, one can treat the electron as a black hole and attempt to compute its radius. The Schwarzschild radius $r_{s}$ of a mass $m$ is the radius of the event horizon for a non-rotating uncharged black hole of that mass. It is given by $$r_\text{s} = \frac{2Gm}{c^2},$$ where $G$ is the Newtonian constant of gravitation, and $c$ is the speed of light. For the electron,

so

Thus, if we ignore the electric charge and angular momentum of the electron and apply general relativity on this very small length scale without taking quantum theory into account, a black hole of the electron's mass would have this radius.

In reality, physicists expect quantum-gravity effects to become significant even at much larger length scales, comparable to the Planck length $$\ell_\text{P} = \sqrt{\frac{G\hbar}{c^3}} = 1.616 \times 10^{-35}~\text{m}.$$

So, the above purely classical calculation cannot be trusted. Furthermore, even classically, electric charge and angular momentum affect the properties of a black hole. To take them into account, while still ignoring quantum effects, one should use the Kerr–Newman metric. If we do, we find that the angular momentum and charge of the electron are too large for a black hole of the electron's mass: a Kerr–Newman object with such a large angular momentum and charge would instead be "super-extremal", displaying a naked singularity, meaning a singularity not shielded by an event horizon.

To see that this is so, it suffices to consider the electron's charge and neglect its angular momentum. In the Reissner–Nordström metric, which describes electrically charged but non-rotating black holes, there is a quantity $m$, defined by $$ r_q = \sqrt{\frac{q^2 G}{4\pi\epsilon_0 c^4}}, $$ where $9.109 kg$ is the electron's charge, and $r_{s}$ is the vacuum permittivity. For an electron with $1.353 m$ = −$r_{q}$ = $q$, this gives a value

Since this (vastly) exceeds the Schwarzschild radius, the Reissner–Nordström metric has a naked singularity.

If we include the effects of the electron's rotation using the Kerr–Newman metric, there is still a naked singularity, which is now a ring singularity, and spacetime also has closed timelike curves. The size of this ring singularity is on the order of $$ r_a = \frac{J}{m c}, $$ where as before $q$ is the electron's mass, and $e$ is the speed of light, but $-1.602 C$ = $$\hbar/2$$ is the spin angular momentum of the electron. This gives

which is much larger than the length scale $r_{q}$ associated with the electron's charge. As noted by Carter, this length $1.381 m$ is on the order of the electron's Compton wavelength. Unlike the Compton wavelength, it is not quantum-mechanical in nature.

More recently, Alexander Burinskii has pursued the idea of treating the electron as a Kerr–Newman naked singularity.

Popular literature

 * Brian Greene, The Elegant Universe: Superstrings, Hidden Dimensions, and the Quest for the Ultimate Theory (1999), (See chapter 13)
 * John A. Wheeler, Geons, Black Holes & Quantum Foam (1998), (See chapter 10)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy Brooks

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Vanity. Denni ☯ 03:26, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC)
 * Delete. Advertising. --khaosworks 03:31, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Should be speedied in my opinion - the kid left his phone number on his first edit and who knows who might start calling that number. For his sake, get it out of here ASAP. -- Barfooz  (talk)  04:45, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * If the kid is stupid enough to leave his number he deserves what he gets... but on the off-chance that someone else put it up, I'll speedy it. --khaosworks 04:52, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Please tell me which one of the speedy delete criteria it meets. Denni ☯ 19:56, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC)

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Hey, you mentioned on the talk page for Klarälven that you had a source for the etymology of the name, would you mind adding it to the article, as the fact still remains unreferenced there? EditorInTheRye 11:22, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I would if I indeed had access to the source myself, but I don't like to add sources that I have not read. I will however ask the user who added the source to the Swedish article to add it in the English article as well. /Dcastor 12:08, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bryan R. Holloway

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Bryan R. Holloway
Unnotable North Carolina state representative. Claim to fame is having been voted into office. Google search reveals 61 results. . Note that other state houses' representatives have very few articles: check Michigan State House of Representatives for an example. Not noteworthy.  Barfooz  (talk)  03:29, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep state representatives, past and present. Public figures, even those of only regional interest, are encyclopedic. Needs some major cleanup, though. I wouldn't oppose a merger into a larger article on the NC State House or state politics. A и D я 01D  TALK  EMAIL  03:51, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * I disagree with a merger, but I can accept your criterion with some qualifications. You say public figures, but I don't think that local government figures are encyclopedia-worthy unless they have other claims to fame, or they preside over major cities (e.g., Tokyo, New York, London). Anything at the sub-unit-of-nation level (e.g., state, province) or above is reasonably noteworthy. -- Barfooz  (talk)  04:37, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep state reps. Also wouldn't oppose merge.  -- Un  focused  04:49, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep all state reps; strongly oppose merge. The deficiency of other areas of WP is hardly a reason to avoid keeping this article. I'll give it a once-over for wikification and such. Meelar (talk) 05:41, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable state representative. Klonimus 21:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm working on a scheme for organizing information about USA state reps and senators, doing it by district rather than by politician, which will allow for historical info and discourage vanity. I believe a similar thing was done recently for legislative divisions in Canada. Naturally, I'm starting with my home state and district. Rough first draft here. Let me know what you think. (I just need to find a good resource for maps that go down to the township level...) A и D я 01D  TALK  EMAIL  05:57, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * No vote but note that all members of the 2003-2004 North Carolina General Assembly (House and Senate) have stub articles about them; unfortunately, the user who contributed them has not yet updated them to reflect whether these people are still in office in 2005, which is an inherent problem with this type of article. If all members of all state legislatures (and that would imply members of all comparable sub-national legislative bodies in other countries), past and present, are considered encyclopedic, we are talking about adding tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of additional articles to Wikipedia. Russ Blau (talk) 14:17, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Why is non-updating stubs on elected representatives an inherent problem?   If information is missing from an article, this "problem" can be "solved" by editing the article. This applies to all biographical articles. It's a Wiki, folks!--Tony Sidaway|Talk 17:55, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment As one way of avoiding the Is this person still in office? Has this page ever been updated? problem while still making information available on state (or equivalent) legislators (which is undoubtedly encyclopedic) how about a page with links to the member information which I suspect all state legislatures maintain. I'm not volunteering to do that now but maybe in the future if someone doesn't beat me to it. -EDM 17:43, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Remind me, why was this article on a representative in the North Carolina General Assembly listed for deletion? --Tony Sidaway|Talk 17:52, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. If so few members of the Michigan State House of Representatives have articles of their own, perhaps someone should get to work on that. --PHenry 20:56, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Member of legislative body. Capitalistroadster 07:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Neutralitytalk 20:52, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
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Bristol Stomp

"Bristol Stomp" is a song written in 1961 by Kal Mann and Dave Appell, two executives with the Cameo-Parkway record label, for The Dovells, a doo-wop singing group from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, who recorded it for Cameo-Parkway late that year. Appell also produced and arranged the track and his Cameo-Parkway's house band served as the studio musicians.

Background
The song was written about teenagers in 1961 who were dancing a new step called "The Stomp" at Good Will Hose Company dances in Bristol, Pennsylvania, a blue-collar suburb of Philadelphia. Before the Dovells' song, kids were dancing the Bristol Stomp to the song "Every Day of the Week" by The Students. The Dovells used the basic feel of that tune and put a three-beat emphasis on the syllables in the title: "Bristol Stomp".

The refrain:
 * "The kids in Bristol are sharp as a pistol
 * When they do the Bristol Stomp
 * Really somethin' when the joint is jumpin'
 * When they do the Bristol Stomp"

This song makes reference to the "Pony" and the "Twist".

Chart performance
The Dovells' recording made the #2 spot on the Billboard magazine Hot 100 singles chart in 1961 behind "Runaround Sue" by Dion. "Bristol Stomp" sold over one million copies, and was awarded a gold disc. "The Bristol Stomp" also peaked at #7 on the Hot R&B Sides chart.

Other versions

 * In 1962, the Dovells' fellow Cameo-Parkway artist Chubby Checker released his rendition of "Bristol Stomp" on the soundtrack album for the Columbia Pictures movie Don't Knock the Twist. Checker performs lead vocals with the Dovells providing backup. Though not as instrumentally polished as the Dovells' original, this take added more pep. Checker starred in the movie.
 * On the live performance of Gary U.S. Bonds' "Seven Day Weekend" found on Johnny Thunders live soundtrack album Stations of the Cross, Walter Lure begins singing the chorus of "Bristol Stomp", playing on the fact that the two songs share the same chord sequence, although this chord sequence was common to many songs from the era.
 * UK group The Late Show's interpretation peaked at #40 on the official UK chart in March 1979.

In popular culture

 * The song has been used by Fox Sports during broadcasts of the Food City 500, a NASCAR Sprint Cup Series race from the Bristol Motor Speedway, in Sullivan County, Tennessee. Massively wrecked race cars were referred to as having been "Bristol Stomped".
 * The song was featured in the season 14 Family Guy episode "A Lot Going On Upstairs". In one scene, Brian Griffin is first brought into Stewie Griffin's dream, where he is hosting a dinner party with Glenn Close. The Dovells suddenly appear singing the song, prompting Brian to ask how Stewie knows the song, to which Glenn answers that he heard it on a car radio once.

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John Piper (military officer)

John Piper (20 April 1773 – 8 June 1851) was a military officer, public servant and landowner in the colony of New South Wales. The Sydney suburb of was named in his honour.

Background
Piper was born in Maybole, Ayrshire Scotland, son of Hugh Piper, a local physician; his family came from Cornwall.

Military career
He was commissioned as an ensign in the New South Wales Corps in 1791, and sailed on the convict ship Pitt, arriving in Sydney in February 1792. In 1793 he was sent, at his own request, to the convict settlement of Norfolk Island, perhaps because of a scandalous love affair. There was certainly an illegitimate daughter born around this time.

Piper was promoted lieutenant and returned to Sydney in 1795; from 1797 to 1799 he was on leave. In 1800 Piper was promoted to the local rank of captain. Piper supported John Macarthur in the struggle between the New South Wales Corps and Governor King, and acted as his second in a duel with Colonel Paterson, his commanding officer. Piper was arrested and court-martialled in 1802, but apologised and was acquitted, to King's disgust.

Piper returned to Norfolk Island in 1804 and, when Lieutenant-Governor Joseph Foveaux left on prolonged sick leave, became acting commandant. His rule was mild, one of the convicts later writing that he "had the good will and respect of everyone, for he had always conducted himself as a Christian and a gentleman." He was promoted to the full rank of captain in 1806. During Piper's period of leadership on Norfolk Island the British government decided it was too costly to maintain, and planned to close the settlement and transfer the inhabitants to Sydney or Van Diemen's Land. Piper showed both tact and organising ability in arranging for the transfers, especially of those settlers who had built up farms and families on the island.

Piper returned to Sydney in 1810, having avoided all the turmoil of the Rum Rebellion. He sailed for England in 1811, but resigned his commission and returned to Sydney in February 1814, as Naval Officer.

Administrative career
In 1816 he married Mary Ann Shears, the daughter of two First Fleet convicts, who had already borne several children by him.

As Naval Officer, Piper was responsible for the collection of customs duties, excise on spirits, harbour dues, control of lighthouses, and crime on water. This post proved very remunerative, and he was able to purchase the property now known as Vaucluse House. He was granted 190 acre on what is now Point Piper and built Henrietta Villa (also called the Naval Pavilion) at the large cost of £10,000. He was appointed a magistrate by Governor Macquarie in 1819, was chairman of directors of the Bank of New South Wales, sat on the local committee of the Australian Agricultural Co., was president of the Scots Church committee, and was involved in many social and sporting activities. As well as Point Piper he had 475 acre at Vaucluse, 1130 acre at Woollahra and Rose Bay, a farm of 295 acre at Petersham, 700 acre at Neutral Bay, 80 acre at Botany Bay, 2000 acre at Bathurst, 300 acre in Van Diemen's Land, and a 1 acre of commercial land in George Street, Sydney.

Piper however, had financial difficulties; in 1826 he raised a mortgage of £20,000. He was forced to resign his bank chairmanship after an enquiry into its affairs in January 1827, and that April was suspended from his position as Naval Officer when mismanagement of customs collection was discovered.

Subsequently, Piper unsuccessfully tried to drown himself one evening after ordering his boat crew to sail his barge five miles from land beyond Sydney's North Head with the pretense of assessing the requirements for building a lighthouse on North Head. On the return with a steady breeze and the sails hoisted he leapt out at the stern and disappeared. It took his crew some time to pull down the sails and turn the boat to row back to where their master was sinking. With a struggle they saved him in time and succeeded in bringing him safely home. In later days he thanked divine providence for his rescue and was desirous of amending his life.

Piper was forced to sell most of his property to repay his debts in full. He then moved to his farm "Alloway Bank", at Bathurst and became an important person in the town with visits by Governor Darling and later Governor Bourke. He was chairman of the committee which raised the funds to build St Stephens Presbyterian church. Piper was forced to mortgage the property in the drought of 1838 to 1841, and the subsequent economic depression of 1844 forced the Pipers to leave the property. Piper was saved by his friends who re-established the family to a property of 500 acres, called Westbourne, beside the Macquarie River at Bathurst. Here Piper died on 8 June 1851, and Mary Ann continued to live until her death twenty years later, supported by her numerous children.

Marjorie Barnard claims that "John Piper was a man of his times. He personified the colonial dream." He was an officer during the military rule, a civil servant when New South Wales became a civil state, and a land pioneer during the pastoral age. "He was honourable, generous, and so well loved that he was forgiven things which would have wrecked a stronger man. … He was a master of the bright illusion."

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You Go Now

You Go Now is the second solo album by keyboardist Kevin Moore, former member of Dream Theater. Moore recorded and released this album under the name Chroma Key. A number of initial pre-orders for the album in the Summer of 2000 were signed by Moore.

Personnel

 * Kevin Moore - Producer, vocals, keyboards, bass, drums
 * Steve Tushar - Producer, co-writer, programming, additional guitars, additional keyboards
 * David Iscove - guitars

title: You Go Now


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bear Silber

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!)  10:10, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Bear Silber
Vanity. "Bear Silber" music gets zero Google hits. "BearSilber" gets only 23, none of which bear any apparent connection to this article's namesake. Denni ☯ 03:32, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC)

 * Please refer to . It's not vanity, it's biography.
 * Comment made by 69.107.55.113 (talk · contributions)
 * We need more third party references than your official web site to verify how noteworthy you are. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Currently, I cannot find any third party references to verify this and/or to prove that this person passes WP:MUSIC. I get zero hits on Amazon and IMDB. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:18, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * He falls under this:

Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/Notability and Music Guidelines

6. Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city (or both, as in British hip hop); note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.

 * No, you still have not proven that "the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability." In other words, please provide credible third party references to back up your claims. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 10:02, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete. Vanity, nn. I guess savage internet guerilla marketing means spamming Wikipedia nowadays. jni 11:27, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, musician vanity. WP is not advertising. --bainer (talk) 23:27, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence requested by Zzyzx11 is given. Dcarrano 01:10, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete non notable vanity. JamesBurns 07:37, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete cannot find any valid resources that substantiate information. Runix 19:54, 15 Jul 2005
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Templers (Radical Pietist sect)

The German Templer Society, also known as Templers, is a Radical Pietist group that emerged in Germany during the mid-nineteenth century, the two founders, Christoph Hoffmann and Georg David Hardegg, arriving in Haifa, Palestine, in October 1868 with their families and a few fellow Templers in order to establish a colony. Templer theology is rooted in the legacy of preceding centuries during which various Christian groups undertook to establish the perfect Christian religion in preparation for Christ's promised return. The movement was founded by Christoph Hoffmann, [1815-1885] who believed that humanity's salvation lay in the gathering of God's people in a Christian community. He also believed that the second coming of Christ was imminent, and that according to Biblical prophecy it would take place in Jerusalem, where God's people were to gather as a symbol of the rebuilding of the temple.

Hoffmann's thinking was inspired by the 1st-century Christian community and based on Matthew's Gospel in regard to Old Testament prophecies and their relevance to the coming of Jesus Christ. Hoffmann also believed that these "prophecies concerned mainly the founding of the Kingdom of God on earth."

In deciding where a Christian community should be established, Hoffmann wrote, "I made a special study, to discover if a center were named in the prophesies. I found that some Prophets declared Jerusalem to be the center. Others mentioned Israel, that is, Palestine, to be the external manifestation of the Kingdom of God on this earth. The prophesies stress the importance of uniting and gathering God's people. This is the responsibility of those who wish to work for the salvation of mankind. There is no doubt – and I believe it with all my heart – this Kingdom of God has a complementary, temporal meaning as well as a spiritual one. For instance, in a Christian State, a Kingdom of God, the misery and famine among poor people after a crop failure is uncalled for! The Kingdom of God is a happy state. This is emphasised in all the Biblical prophesies, and should exist for all people. The Prophets point to Jerusalem as the Center of the Kingdom of God, a Happy State!"

Etymology
The word Templer is derived from the concept of the Christian Community as described in the New Testament, see 1 Corinthians and 1 Peter, where every person and the community are seen as temples in which God's spirit dwells. There is no connection to the Medieval Knights Templar.

History
Christoph Hoffmann met Georg David Hardegg (1812–1879) in 1849. They became friends and partners, and in 1853 Hardegg embraced Hoffmann's dream of a Christian State. Initially the Templer Movement/Temple Society was known as the "Friends of Jerusalem", and it was in 1855 that Hoffmann placed a pronouncement in their regular publication, the Sentinel, stating their intention of establishing a way of life based on the word of God; he also stated that the conversion of the whole world, [this being the purpose of bringing together God's people] would only take place following Christ's second coming.

In 1856 Hoffmann and Hardegg moved with their families and other "Friends of Jerusalem", to the Kirschenhardthof, previously part of a large estate in Hochberg, near Ludwigsberg,. Here they built a thriving community, suffered a devastating typhoid fever epidemic, began planning their move to Palestine, and changed their name to the Temple Society.

While the Lutheran state church in Württemberg condemned and fought the Templers as apostates, the Prussian Protestant position was somewhat milder. Their settlement in the Holy Land found a warm support through Wilhelm Hoffmann (1806–1873), who was no apostate from the official church, like his younger brother Christoph. Through Wilhelm Hoffmann was able to meet with Frederick William IV of Prussia in Berlin, but despite Frederick's initial suggestion that he might "send a commission to assist the Templer Society", he was reported to have told Wilhelm, "it is unthinkable that I should identify myself with these people". Despite this setback Hoffmann wrote, "we have not given up hope for the recovery of the King of Prussia", but unfortunately Frederick had become unwell, and his "illness prevented him from offering any support to the Templers."

Unperturbed by objections from the Evangelical State Church and the Catholic sector, and the resignation of some members from the Society, Hoffmann and Hardegg left for a fact-finding trip to Palestine on 9 February 1858, along with agriculturist J. Bubeck. They arrived in Jaffa on 14 March 1858 and spent time visiting Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Beersheba,  Nazareth, Acco, Haifa, (Caifa at this time), and Tiberias before returning home.

On 6 August 1868, Hoffmann, Hardegg, their families and a group of fellow Templers, finally left Germany for Palestine, landing in Haifa on 30 October, having made the decision not only to "stipulate the number of Templers and the timing of their migration to Palestine, but also which professions and skills were required". They had already come to the conclusion that basing themselves in Jerusalem would not be practical, planning to settle nearby, close to Nazareth, but during their journey they were advised that Haifa would be more suitable, due to its good harbour and climate.

Early settlement in Palestine
Hoffmann and Hardegg purchased land at the foot of Mount Carmel and established a colony there in 1868. At the time, Haifa had a population of 4,000. The Templers are credited today with promoting the development of the city. The colonists built an attractive main street that was much admired by the locals. It was 30 meters wide and planted with trees on both sides. The houses, designed by architect Jacob Schumacher, were built of stone, with red-shingled roofs, instead of the flat or domed roofs common in the region. Hard work, the harsh climate and epidemics claimed the lives of many before the colony became self-sustaining. Hardegg stayed in Haifa, while Hoffmann moved on to establish other colonies.

In the same year, Bahá'u'lláh, the prophet-founder of the Baha’i Faith, arrived in the Haifa-Akka region as a prisoner of the Ottoman Empire. Years later, after his release from strict confinement, he visited the Templer Colony on Mount Carmel several times and wrote a letter to Hardegg. He asked his son, ‘Abdu’l-Baha, to build, on the alignment of the Templer Colony road (Carmel Avenue) but halfway up the mountain, the shrine to the forerunner of the religion (who was known as "the Bab"). The conjunction of the Templer buildings and the Shrine have become the most significant landmark in the modern city of Haifa.

Hoffman established colonies in Jaffa a year later, and two years later, in 1871, a third colony in Sarona, as the Templers' first agricultural colony, on the road from Jaffa to Nablus. In 1873 a fourth colony was established in the Valley of Refaim outside Jerusalem's Old City.

The colony's oranges were the first to carry a "Jaffa orange" brand, one of the better known agricultural brands in Europe, used to market Israeli oranges to this day.

The Templers established a regular coach service between Haifa and the other cities, promoting the country's tourist industry, and made an important contribution to road construction.

Templer colonies
After the 1898 visit of Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, one of the Kaiser's traveling companions, Colonel Joseph Freiherr von Ellrichshausen, initiated the formation of a society for the advancement of the German settlements in Palestine, in Stuttgart. It enabled the settlers to acquire land for new settlements by offering them low interest loans.

A second wave of pioneer settlers founded Wilhelma (now Bnei Atarot) in 1902 near Lod, (1903) near the original Jaffa colony, followed by Bethlehem of Galilee (1906) and Waldheim (now Alonei Abba) in 1907. At its height, the Templer community in Palestine numbered 2,000.

In July and August 1918 the British sent 850 Templers to an internment camp at Helwan near Cairo in Egypt. In April 1920, 350 of these internees were deported to Germany. All the property of the Templers of enemy nationality (thus except of that of a few US citizens among them) was taken into public custodianship. With the establishment of a regular British administration in 1918 Edward Keith-Roach became the Public Custodian of Enemy Property in Palestine, who rented out the property and collected the rents.

In April 1920 the Allies convened at the Conference of San Remo and agreed on the British rule in Palestine, followed by the official establishment of the civil administration on 1 July 1920. From that date on Keith-Roach transferred the collected rents for property in custodianship to the actual proprietors. On 29 June 1920, the British Foreign Secretary, Lord Curzon, informed the British Upper House that Great Britain agreed in principle to their return to Palestine.

The League of Nations legitimised the British administration and custodianship by granting a mandate to Britain in 1922, which Turkey, the Ottoman successor, finally ratified by the Treaty of Lausanne, signed on 24 July 1923 and becoming effective on 5 August 1925. Thus the public custodianship ended in the same year and the prior holders achieved the fully protected legal position as proprietors.

The Mandate government and the Public Custodian of Enemy Property paid them 50% restitution for war losses of livestock and other property. The Bank of the Temple Society, formed in 1925 with its head office in Jaffa and branches in Haifa and Jerusalem, became one of the leading credit institutions in Palestine.

Third Reich
After the Nazi takeover in Germany the new Reich's government streamlined foreign policy according to Nazi ideals, using financial pressure especially. The Nazi emphasis was on creating the image that Germany and Germanness were equal to Nazism. Thus, all non-Nazi aspects of German culture and identity were discriminated against as un-German. All international schools of German language subsidised or fully financed by government funds were obliged to redraw their educational programmes and to solely employ teachers aligned to the Nazi party. The teachers in Bethlehem were financed by the Reich government, so Nazi teachers also took over there.

In 1933 Templer functionaries and other Gentile Germans living in Palestine appealed to Paul von Hindenburg and the Foreign Office not to use swastika symbols for German institutions, without success. Some German Gentiles from Palestine pleaded with the Reich government to drop its plan to boycott shops of Jewish Germans on 1 April 1933. Some Templers enlisted in the German Army. By 1938, 17% of the Templers in Palestine were members of the Nazi party. According to historian Yossi Ben-Artzi, "The members of the younger generation to some extent broke away from naive religious belief, and were more receptive to the Nazi German nationalism. The older ones tried to fight it."

At the start of World War II colonists with German citizenship were rounded up by the British and sent, together with Italian and Hungarian enemy aliens, to internment camps in Waldheim and Bethlehem of Galilee. On 31 July 1941, 661 Templers and other Germans in Palestine were deported to Australia via Egypt, leaving 345 in Palestine.

In 1939, at the start of World War II, the British authorities declared the Templers enemy nationals, placed them under arrest and deported many of them to Australia. During the war the British government brokered the exchange of about 1,000 Templers for 550 Jews under German control. "The swap, Bauer stresses, stemmed primarily from British and German interests: Just as the British wanted to get the Germans out, Germany was happy for the chance to rid itself of a few hundred more Jews. There were three exchanges that took place, one in 1941, one in 1942 and the last in 1944. In total only 480 persons, Templers and other Germans living in Palestine were exchanged".

After its foundation, the State of Israel—with the fresh memory of the Holocaust—was adamant in not permitting any ethnic Germans, of a community which had expressed pro-Nazi sympathies, to remain in or return to its territory. On 12 March 1946 a team from the Zionist Haganah assassinated the leader of the community, Gotthilf Wagner. Later four more members of the sect were murdered in order to drive the group from Palestine. The former Templer colonies were re-settled by Jews.

In 1962 the State of Israel paid DM54 million in compensation to property owners whose assets were nationalized. Sarona was incorporated in Tel Aviv, part of it becoming the compound of the Israeli Ministry of Defense and the IDF High Command Headquarters, while the other part housed various civil offices of the Israeli government, using the original German houses. In the early 21st century the civil offices were evacuated and the area extensively renovated, becoming a pedestrian shopping and entertainment area.

Timeline of the Temple Society

 * 1861 The Temple Society was founded in South-West Germany by Christoph Hoffmann (1815–1885) and others, following a split with the Evangelical-Lutheran Church in Württemberg (7/10/1859) over dogmatic rituals. Plans for a move to Palestine were considered.
 * The centre of the new movement was from 1856 in Kirschenhardthof, where a community hall and a school were commissioned in July that year. The community consisted of nine properties of approximately 5ha each. It could at most accommodate 132 residents.
 * Attempts by impatient members to settle on their own in Palestine in 1867, at Samunieh, had tragic consequences: of the 25 persons in the group 15 died within a year, 7 in Medjedel and 8 in Samunieh.
 * 1868 Beginning of carefully planned migration of Templers to the Holy Land, then part of the Ottoman Empire. In 1869 begins the construction of the first house in Haifa, the community hall (Gemeindehaus). Over many years urban and rural settlements with community halls and schools, commercial, trade, farm and transport enterprises were established in a number of locations including Haifa, Jaffa and Jerusalem.
 * The beliefs and ideas of the Templers also spread to the German Mennonites from the Russian settlement of Molotschna where Johann Lange, former student from Württemberg, formed the Tempelhof congregation in Gnadenfeld after years of bitter controversy.
 * 1874 schism of the Temple Society, with a third of the members seceding and founding the Temple Association (Tempelverein) in 1878, later joining the Evangelical State Church of Prussia's older Provinces
 * 1875 Publication of 'Occident und Orient, Part 1' by Christoph Hoffmann. English translation 1995 'The Temple Society and its Settlements in the Holy Land' ISBN 0-9597489-4-6, Occident and Orient, Part 1.
 * 1921 Templers who had been interned in Helouan, Egypt, towards the end of World War I returned to their settlements in Palestine, now a British Mandate. The settlements soon flourished again.
 * 1939 German Templers were interned in Palestine at the outbreak of World War II.
 * 1941 Over 500 Templers from Palestine were transported to Australia, where internment continued in Tatura, Victoria, until 1946-7. In December, 65 persons take part in an exchange program from Palestine to Germany.
 * 1942 In November, 302 persons take part in an exchange program from Palestine to Germany.
 * 1944 In July, 112 persons take part in an exchange program from Palestine to Germany.
 * 1948 Formation of the State of Israel. Templers cannot return there, those left had to leave. most live in Australia and Germany.

Temple Society Australia

 * 1948-50 Australian Templers consolidate around Melbourne, Sydney and Adelaide. Over the years church halls and community centres were established at Boronia, Bayswater and Bentleigh in Melbourne, Meadowbank in Sydney and at Tanunda near Adelaide.
 * 1950 Formation of the Temple Society Australia with Dr. Richard Hoffmann as Regional Head
 * 1970 Australian and German Templer Regions linked formally by appointment of Dr. R. O. Hoffmann as President of the Temple Society
 * 1972 Templer Home for the Aged opened in Bayswater
 * 1979 Tabulam Nursing Home, located next to the Templer Home for the Aged, begun as a joint undertaking with the Australian-German Welfare Society.
 * 1981 New Youth Group club room and school rooms completed at Bayswater.
 * 1986 Templers in Germany and Australia celebrate 125 years of Temple Society.
 * 1987 Sydney Templers secure places in the St. Hedwig Homes for the Aged of the Catholic German Community of St. Raphael in Blacktown NSW, opened in 1989.
 * 1988 Dr Richard Hoffmann retires. Dietrich Ruff is elected as the new President of the Temple Society
 * 1990s New initiatives: Templer residential unit development in Bayswater, Kids' Club, Australian-German Templer Exchange, Country Victorian Templer Groups
 * 2001/2 Dietrich Ruff retires. Peter Lange is elected as the new President of the Temple Society
 * 2002 A new Temple Chapel is built in the Bayswater Community Centre. Extensive Remodel of the TTHA.
 * 2005 TSA Constitution changed to reflect the lifestyle of its members in Australia. It is no longer a community-based organisation, but one consisting of many focus and interest groups.

Tempelgesellschaft in Germany

 * 1949 After a pause of 10 years, publication of Die Warte des Tempels is resumed in September. Rundschreiben keeps members informed.
 * 1950 Management office installed at Mozartstraße 58, Stuttgart, where meetings and religious services were held. Treffpunkt Mozartstraße became hub of social activities.
 * 1954, at a General Meeting in September a revision of the 20-year-old constitution is proposed.
 * 1962, on 27 January the new constitution was finalised and accepted and the Tempelgesellschaft in Deutschland e.V. (TGD) instituted. A move to larger premises initiated.
 * 1967 New community centre officially opened in Felix-Dahn-Straße, Degerloch
 * 1970 the Australian and German Templer Regions formally linked by the appointment of Dr. R. O. Hoffmann as President of the society.
 * 1976 TGD joins Bund für Freies Christentum.

Templer and related Protestant settlements in Palestine
In chronological order of their establishment:
 * 1869-70: German Colony, Haifa, became a settlement of mixed denominational affiliation
 * 1869-70: German Colony, Jaffa
 * 1872:   Sarona, became a settlement of mixed denominational affiliation
 * 1874: The Temple denomination underwent a schism.
 * 1878:   German Colony, Jerusalem, became a settlement of mixed denominational affiliation. First settlers in 1873, became a colony in 1878.
 * 1886:	  Walhalla in Jaffa, north of the first colony.
 * 1902:   Wilhelma, a monodenominational settlement of only Templer colonists
 * 1906:   Bethlehem of Galilee, a monodenominational settlement of only Templer colonists
 * 1907:   Waldheim, a monodenominational settlement of only Protestant-church affiliated colonists

title: Templers (Radical Pietist sect)


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Talk:Q (New York City Subway service)

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the desegnation (Q)was once used on the IND                                                                                6th avenue line.

Does anyone have any information on this?

 * During the period of Manhattan Bridge south side closures, Brighton Q trains ("orange Q") operated on 6th Avenue. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 06:19, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

so the Q ran on BMT Broadway before the Manhattan Bridge reconstruction?

 * A few useful links:

 * nycsubway.org - Historical Maps
 * Line By Line History
 * It looks like whenever the Manhattan Bridge south tracks were closed, the Q used Sixth Avenue and 63rd Street. There was not a time that the IND 63rd Street Line was finished, but the south tracks were closed - thus the Q never went beyond Queensbridge-21st Street.
 * And yes, whenever the south tracks were open, including before the reconstruction and currently, the Q used Broadway. I'm not completely sure about this, but I believe the only services using the Chrystie Street Connection to the Manhattan Bridge, when the full bridge was open, have been original IND services (letters A to F). Basically the A-C-E used Eighth Avenue midtown and the B-D-F Sixth Avenue. However, as the BMT letters were originally assigned by Brooklyn line, there may have been a supplemental service to those. However, post-Chrystie, the IND letters became affixed to the Brooklyn lines - the B on the West End and the D on the Brighton, and any more through the connection would probably overload it. In fact the (the old West End number) was completely eliminated in 1968, though I think the Q was always only on Brighton. Some of this may be wrong; do your own research as well if it's important. --SPUI (talk) 02:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

thanks

Picture of Train
The train picture looks photoshopped to add the Q to it. JYolkowski // talk 01:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Service changes in September?
An anonymous AOL contributor has been adding information on a service change to the Q that will supposedly cause it to run local in September. I have been unable to find any evidence that this is the case, including scouring all of the recent MTA announcements and their "service changes" section, as well as doing a news search. I invite the contributor who wishes for this information to stay to show that it is true using reliable sources. Thanks. Captainktainer * Talk 20:01, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

 * This has been going on for quite a while now. Someone keeps modifying NYC subway articles. The changes are reverted, and a few days later he puts them back again. The offender can clearly see that people are asking him for evidence, and none is ever offered. Marc Shepherd 22:45, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I know. If there are such changes, the MTA would say so. I have contacted himm to refrain from making unverifible contributions. --imdanumber1 22:47, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * According to this SubChat thread, it's just random nonsense. Just ignore him and revert on sight. Pacific Coast Highway (blah • Snakes on a Plane) 22:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Service History
The service history is kind of a mess. It mixes accurate information with inaccurate information plus inferred information which isn't quite correct. I'll see what I can do. -- Cecropia 03:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes please do. I did what I could in the little time available to me, but not being a New Yorker, found it tough going...
 * Suggest totally dropping the use of the word "Beginning", as it leaves the question begging until when, particularly in the earlier years. I fixed a handful of these with more explicit "During", and so forths, as best I could guess.
 * I also added a bunch of unclear tags as this is in rough shape indeed. Hovering over them on the rendered HTML will give the content of what is confusing.
 * Broke the history into subsections and renamed "service history"... I suspect, erroneously now that I see the upper part of the page again. That there may be a better date breakdowns I don't doubt, but I was here by accident pursuing the mysterious redirect
 * That represents (from what I can see) one of the worst named redirect pages in history.
 * The article even has (at least one) link to a BMT disambig page... I'd have fixed that, but lost it on the edit page.
 * The overuse of wikilinks is cautioned against here in such an article.

Cheers, and good luck Yankees fans! (Boooooo! Hisss! ) // Fra nkB 18:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * There are some Yankee fans from Brooklyn, but I'm not one. Brooklyn Dodgers fan, and then early Mets fan when the Mets lineup was practically the Brooklyn Dodgers Government-in-Exile (but no sym-phony). -- Cecropia 18:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ack!!! No wonder my subconscious self was ignoring this. It's disturbing, like the socks in the corner of my room that I know I should put in the hamper, the ones I see them moving out of the corner of my eye but when I look straight at them they stop (and what is that rustling and chuckling sound when I look there?) There are a few outright errors that are the easy part. It's the unclears and the spaghetti that really need the work. -- Cecropia 18:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Let's not edit-war the redirect
The current version has a disambiguation redirect to QJ (New York City Subway service). This seems fine to me, and should be left as-is. Marc Shepherd 19:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

 * I changed it back to J/Z. If you're going to use a dablink to another article, it should not be a redirect. The Legendary Ranger 21:55, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Agreed as per TLR. The same goes for other articles and its content. –User: (talk • contribs • email) 01:51, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

 * You're wrong again. "This guidance to avoid piping means that a link to a redirect term will sometimes be preferred to a direct link, if the redirect term contains the disambiguation title and the redirect target does not." --NE2 03:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

 * I agree with NE2. Marc Shepherd 12:23, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Notice they say sometimes, not always. Besides, the J/Z article does contain info about the QJ.

 * Wait a minute, why don't we just create a section about the QJ service on the J/Z article? We could redirect it to that section, and I wouldn't care then. It would probably stop all this trouble, and everyone gets what they want: NE2's passion of redirects, and my information on the QJ. Is this any better? –User: (talk • contribs • email) 13:14, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

 * The trouble with that idea is that the QJ is merely one of at least half-a-dozen defunct services that ran over that route, or portions of that route. The QJ doesn't logically "fit" into its own section. Marc Shepherd 14:25, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Here's the issue: right now the QJ is covered in the J/Z article. But that's not the only place to put it; it could conceivable be covered in an article about services that run through the "Nassau Loop", or a general article about Chrystie Street changes. --NE2 19:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

 * I wonder why the dablink is necessary. Is it possible that Q could refer to QJ? The service would have been called QJ and not simply Q, would it? Tinlinkin 20:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Most of these two-letter services are covered at the first letter - RJ, QB... Someone could go here expecting to find the QJ. --NE2 20:53, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

To me, too many redirects are very confusing. That's why I want us to be careful when using redirects. The Legendary Ranger 21:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Orange Q?
Excuse me for missing this along the line, but I've seen pictures of the Q train logo as a white Q on an orange circle (as in the B/D/F/V), as opposed to the black-Q-on-yellow-circle I'm used to. Can anyone explain this for me? Does it have something to do with the Manhattan Bridge repairs? --74.72.201.17 12:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, wait - I just read the uncharacterized question about the Q/Sixth Avenue line at the beginning. That cleared things up. Apologies.--74.72.201.17 12:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, there are still some orange Q signs around. One of the signs on the east side of Eighth near the Port Authority has an orange Q. dcandeto 01:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * In the station too. Pacific Coast Highway { talk • contribs } 21:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Map
Can someone update the map in the infobox to show the extension of the Q to Ditmars Blvd?Avman89 (talk) 05:01, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Done. R36 (talk) 22:54, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Service
Needs an edit. Weekday services goes to Ditmars. Late Night and Weekend still 57th. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IGeMiNix (talk • contribs) 06:11, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Needs 49th stop on the map--IGeMiNix (talk) 22:49, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Coney Island union terminal
Why is this phrase being repeatedly unlinked?

"* In 1919, Brighton Beach local and express service was extended to New West End Terminal at Stillwell and Surf Avenues, still the location of the current union terminal at Coney Island for all subway lines." (Bolding added for emphasis.)

Coney Island station is and has always been a union terminal from the very beginning. It was built in 1919 to consolidate the four railroads that went to Coney Island. The Brooklyn, Bath and Coney Island Railroad, now known as the BMT West End Line ( train), the Prospect Park and Coney Island Railroad, now known as the IND Culver Line ( train), the New York and Sea Beach Railroad, now known as the BMT Sea Beach Line ( train), and the Brooklyn, Flatbush and Coney Island Railway, now known as the BMT Brighton Line ( train), all funnel into this station. They were all consolidated under the ownership of the BMT, until 1954 when the Culver line was taken over by the IND. In 1967 with the opening of the Chrystie Street Connection, IND trains were diverted into the BMT. Now the station is served by two IND services (D F trains) and two BMT services (N Q trains). Acps110 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, one additional note, I reverted the vandalism that had been made to the union terminal redirect, to now link to the proper page. (page history) Acps110 (talk • contribs) 17:46, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Union terminals were made to consolidate different railroads into a single location for ease of transfer. For decades before Coney Island terminal was made, It was operated by a single company- the BMT/BRT. While the IND now runs there, the BMT and IND have simply been divisions of NYCTA/its public predecessors since any time that the IND has been there.

It is also not a mainline railroad station for the city which they are in, which is common trait to all Union Stations. Nor is it operated by a terminal corporation, which although not consistant, was a frequent trait of union stations. Furthermore, Union Stations are known as Union Stations or Union Terminals. Coney Island has never held the title "Coney Island Union Station" or "Coney Island Union Terminal".

Coney Island simply does not really follow any of the definition of Union station. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.252.166.124 (talk) 19:25, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Since nobody has countered any of my points- I am reverting it back. 98.14.158.206 (talk) 00:46, 9 March 2011 (UTC)(same person as above, different computer)

Q service article introduction
First off User:Acps110, let me ask you this, how am I vandalizing? Secondly, I'm just following through the MTA official website (as you told me I have to provide proof sources) and the Q's schedule CLEARLY states that it operates between Astoria and Coney Island from about 6 a.m. to 11 p.m. Thirdly, saying trains operate from this stop to that stop for example, just like I'm seeing in other NYCS service articles, only misplaces the word between. Trains operate in both directions and same goes for other public transportation systems in the world (not just the NYC's subway), not just one direction!

Also, it seems quite obvious that you like the article the way it is and that's why you keep on reverting me, threaten me with warnings to be blocked from editing Wikipedia as you left the message on my talk page. What I putted on the article was correct because the MTA's schedule for the Q service from 6 a.m. to 11 p.m., it operates between Astoria and Coney Island. I've said this NUMEROUS times already but I assume you just keep on ignoring me and reverting me left and right.

And I know what Wikipedia is, I am not going out of my way to edit war and get blocked but however, the way the info about the Q service in the introduction section as well as the 49th Street station are written feels incorrect to me. BECAUSE 49th Street is NOT the only station that the Q began stopping at, its also other stations north of 57th Street on the Broadway Line, the 60th Street Tunnel AND THE BMT Astoria Line. No matter what, we should always say between, not from this to that for example. I have kept on repeating this over and over, yet you are not being helpful at all but only you just keep on reverting and reverting. 68.194.58.106 (talk) 20:16, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * A question for Acps110; is 68.194.58.106 introducing factual errors? I'm not challenging your assertion, I really don't know.  Tide  rolls  21:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, he is introducing factual errors, by jumbling up the service. His version reads as if a train travels from Queens to Brooklyn, then back to Manhattan, then back to Brooklyn all in one trip. As I pointed out to him a number of times the lead of the article is a summary of the rest of the article (per WP:LEAD), so it should be in a similar order to the rest of the article. Acps110 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing your concerns here, Acps110. 68.194.58.106, can you appreciate Acps110's point regarding WP:LEAD?  Perhaps there exists a way that the wording could be addressed in another section.  Just an observation from an uninformed perspective.  Tide  rolls  02:13, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay, then I apologies for my unintentional actions over the Q's page. Next time when I edit, I'll make sure how to use the sandbox first and learning how to rephrase the sentences I make to an article. 68.194.58.106 (talk) 21:50, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Also I apologies for the personal attack I left on your talk page Acps110. I didn't realize that I lack basic language skills to the articles here at Wikipedia. Just frustrated and confused, having difficulty trying to re-word the sentences I make. Thanks for the help by the way. 68.194.58.106 (talk) 22:01, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't think he is on right now. In the meantime, can I ask if you please go through my edits on the Q article? Just want everything to be solved before going back to touch the article. 68.194.58.106 (talk) 22:02, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I had already reviewed the history after seeing the AIV report. I think it would be best if you hold off editing until Acps110 has responded here.  I'm in no position to dictate your actions, I just want all parties to be careful to avoid a three revert situation.  Tide  rolls  22:08, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. 68.194.58.106 (talk) 22:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

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I am using your second picture. Let's see how well it works.Davidng913 (talk) 13:15, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

> Turns out R188 7 Train was a sock puppet of some dude who edited lots of Russia-associated articles. Guess there is no more debate. Mtattrain (talk) 07:00, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Rush hour service variant via BMT Fourth Avenue and Sea Beach Lines
Hello,

I learned today that the Q train has a northbound-only rush hour service variant via the BMT Fourth Avenue and Sea Beach Lines—a service pattern that is not currently reflected in the article. Please see this source which contains two AM and four PM rush hour Q trains to 96th St-2 Av stopping along the Sea Beach Line at Gravesend-86th St. Conversely, see this source showing southbound trains stopping at Gravesend-86th; Q trains are absent. Finally, see this source for a breakdown of stops northbound rush hour Q trains make along the Sea Beach (local) and Fourth Avenue (express) lines.

I have drafted versions of an updated Q service pattern chart and a list of stations containing both service variants in my sandbox. I figured this was a pretty big edit to boldly implement (and I'm not advanced at HTML coding), so I wanted to check with others re: the accuracy/formatting of these tables before hopefully including them in this article. Thanks! Softmist (talk) 01:39, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

 * Do you have evidence that this is an ongoing variant service pattern rather than a temporary partial reroute due to construction or other issues? Kufat (talk) 15:07, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Pantothenic acid

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There is a substantial body of literature that argues for Vitamin A reduction of acne, and there are also documented cases of high-dose B vitamins /causing/ acne:  --crl620 04:49, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The ref mention of B-vitamins was not about pantothenic acid David notMD (talk) 11:42, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

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Rewrite
This article needs a complete rewrite. There is little information actually pertaining to Pantothenic acid, and lots of random junk about Dr. Lit-Hung Leung's research.

Dr. Leung
The 'study' performed by Dr. Lit-Hung Leung is extremely vague, published in a rediculous journal, and used commonly to sell B5 pills. The wiki page reads like an infomercial:

"Though this study was done in 1997, news did not spread...however, by word of mouth and eventually the internet, success stories have came in by the thousands..."

Here's the Leung article:

It was published in the journal "Medical Hypotheses," which is described on their site as:

"Medical Hypotheses takes a deliberately different approach to peer review. Most contemporary practice tends to discriminate against radical ideas that conflict with current theory and practice. Medical Hypotheses will publish radical ideas, so long as they are coherent and clearly expressed. Furthermore, traditional peer review can oblige authors to distort their true views to satisfy referees, and so diminish authorial responsibility and accountability. In Medical Hypotheses, the authors' responsibility for the integrity, precision and accuracy of their work is paramount. The editor sees his role as a 'chooser', not a 'changer': choosing to publish what are judged to be the best papers from those submitted."

It looks like it's a journal without any review system.

Other Issues
Overall the data on the wiki are poorly cited and shallow.

The wiki lacks clear scientific evidence and has no sources (minus the link to "Coenzyme-A Technologies", a company selling skin products).

Legitimate and well regarded sources tend to disagree with some of the suggestions on the wiki page. The Pauling Institute describes pantothenic acid as helping to heal skin wounds, whereas the wiki article says that "Some users report that cuts heal very slowly."

Some key facts about pantothenic acid are missing, such as recent research, absorption as d-Calcium pantothenate, chemical structure, and metabolism. As Dan| says below, the information about metabolism and "part of Coenzyme-A" makes no sense. To answer Dan's question, the pantothenate is a CoA precursor: KEGG CoA Pathway

This article needs to be substantially rewritten.

Could someone please edit the painfully anthropomorphic "Insulin receptors are acylated with palmitic acid when they do not want to bind with insulin.[22] " Joel1947 (talk) 18:25, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes about the want to part, change it to acylation decreases binding of insulin to its receptors. FeritTuzer (talk) 08:12, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Older Talk
Regarding "It is also needed for proper and healthy growth of hair," is this here because certain shampoo companies say it's true or because it's actually the case? All I can find are suggestions that the use of this chemical in shampoos has no effect, eg - 203.132.90.8 03:39, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

From personal experience: it is actually the case.78.151.26.19 (talk) 03:02, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

"Specifically, it is part of coenzyme-A (CoASH) in the metabolism and transfer of carbon chains."
 * That sentence dosn't seem to make any sense. --Dan|(talk) 15:16, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

B5
Using B5 as a treatment to acne really does work. I myself have had amazing results from it, and I am also aware of several other successful cases. I can't agree or disagree with the reasoning behind it, but there is little point arguing its effectiveness having seen the dramatic changes it has had.

a Pantothenic Acid Based Dietary Supplement found effective for Acne Blemishes in an open-label study
Journal of Cosmetics, Dermatological Sciences and Applications, 2012, 2, 132-135 doi:10.4236/jcdsa.2012.23026

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"Conclusions: The results from this study indicated that the administration of a pantothenic based dietary supplement in healthy human adults with mild to moderate acne vulgaris is feasible, safe and well tolerated. Secondary analysis shows that administration of the study agent significantly reduced global facial blemishes. Further randomized, placebo-controlled trials are warranted."

thiamine—1.5 mg, riboflavin—1.7 mg, niacin—20 mg, pyridoxine—2 mg, folic acid—400 mgc, cyanoco-balamin—6 mcg, biotin—300 mcg, pantothenic acid— 2.2 g and L-carnitine—733.3 mg. : half of these a day

slightly relevant to the article

Prescription?
From the article, under disputed uses -> acne

"few if any dermatologists prescribe high-dose pantothenic acid."

Admittedly, few dermatologists (or any doctors, for that matter) prescribe pantothenic acid, but isn't that simply because one cannot prescribe things like vitamins/mineral/herbal supplements? A deficiency in Vitamin C, for example, can produce scurvy, however doctors wouldn't be able to prescribe you Vitamin C. They would, most likely, recommend it.

Also, perhaps someone could add that while studies are scarce, a large amount anecdotal evidence seems to support pantothenic acid's positive effects on acne? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.132.210.179 (talk) 03:37, 25 April 2007 (UTC).

Yes, doctors do prescribe vitamins. My doctor prescribed me vitamin C tablets for my knee ligaments, even though he said "The use of this is controversial". He meant I was wasting my time and his.78.151.26.19 (talk) 03:00, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * If he did not write a prescription or send it to a pharmacy, it was a recommendation. David notMD (talk) 13:48, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Biological half-life of the Acid?
Ben. Ben-Natan (talk) 04:21, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Hair care
The article says this stuff doesn't do anything for hair. This is just wrong. If I take pantothenic acid for two days my hair is thicker. My nails also grow noticeably faster, almost to the point where it's a nuisance.78.151.26.19 (talk) 02:55, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * There are no published human trials in the scientific literature (at least none come up from a search on pantothenic acid x hair). Basically, this means not proven or disproven. What is needed is a placebo-controlled, blinded trial of several months duration. Until then, anecdotal, as in "It works for me." is not sufficient. Same applies to any claims for pantothenic acid in shampoo or conditioner.David notMD (talk) 12:24, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

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Dietary Reference Intakes
I am creating the same format for DRIs for all B vitamins. That is a U.S.- based system that identifies Estimated Average Requirements (EARs), Recommended Dietary Allowances (RDAs), Adequate Intakes (AIs) if there is not enough information to establish EARs and RDAs, and Tolerable Upper Intake Levels (ULs). Another major regulatory agency that has established ULs is the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA). ULs for both are provided, as they often differ. If there is a UL (for some vitamins none has been determined) then rationale is covered in a Toxicity section. In addition to DRIs, the U.S. also established Daily Value, using it on food and dietary supplement labels as % DV. DVs were based on older RDAs and as of 2016 have never been updated to reflect the newer DRIs. Thus, often a product that has 100% DV and greater than 100% RDA. Examples given for each vitamin. What I have written can be improved. It lacks EFSA or other major country RDAs. It lacks an estimate of what percentages of people are deficient - although that is often covered in a separate section on deficiency and consequences of deficiency. I am creating this Subject in all of the Talk pages of the vitamin entries I have edited. Comments and improvements are welcome. David notMD (talk) 12:16, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * All vitamins and nutritionally essential minerals being changed from Dietary reference intakes to Dietary recommendations, as that is not a USA-only term. European Union information being added. David notMD (talk) 20:38, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Infobox Crosses & Checkmarks
I glanced at WikiProject_Chemicals/Chembox_validation, but I don't understand why many of those IDs are reported "changed", when they match the linked sites. --Diblidabliduu (talk) 20:53, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Improving article
Working to bring article to be closer to state of completeness seen in B-class and GA vitamin articles. David notMD (talk) 11:39, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Nominated for GA. Article as it exists is much shorter than other vitamins that are GA or B-class, but that is because there is much less in the way of science published about this vitamin, as deficiency in humans is near-impossible, and claims for the vitamin as a dietary supplement are not supported by reliable-source literature. Of the vitamins, this is the shortest article, and with the fewest references. David notMD (talk) 15:10, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

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