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Minty Alley

Minty Alley is a novel written by Trinidadian writer C. L. R. James in the late 1920s, and published in London by Secker & Warburg in 1936, as West Indian literature was starting to flourish. It was the first novel by a black West Indian to be published in England, and "earned much praise for its sensitive portrayal of the poor, especially poor women, and for its playful use of the folkloric trickster tradition in a modern context."

According to Christian Høgsbjerg, James later noted: the basic constituent of my political activity and outlook' was already set out in 'the "human" aspect' of Minty Alley, the unpublished novel he wrote in 1928 about the working people of one 'barrack-yard' he stayed in that summer." James arrived in the United Kingdom in 1932, intent on a career as a writer and bearing the manuscript of Minty Alley, and found employment writing about cricket for the Manchester Guardian. He soon became involved in politics, writing books about the Bolshevik and Haitian revolutions, leaving his literary ambitions behind. Minty Alley was his only novel. James died in London in 1989.

Plot
Set in Port of Spain, Trinidad, the book opens with Mr. Haynes deciding to rent part of a house situated nearby on the title street—a very short alley. His mother has died, and he is trying to make the best out of an otherwise dull life. Figuring out how to pay for the house, he arrives there the following day, meeting Maisie and her aunt, Mrs. Rouse, who has a small room to let. Haynes agrees to use it after hearing of the conditions and the price—$2.50.

Early next morning, Haynes begins transferring his goods to his new home. Back at that residence, he is introduced to his new landlord, Mr. Benoit.

On the first Saturday evening of his stay, he meets a sick Miss Atwell and an East Indian servant named Philomen, as well as a cake-seller named John. Later on, Mrs. Rouse arrives with her new lodger, a nurse named Jackson, and the rest in the house engage in a lot of conversation soon after.

Yet after such good times, Haynes is bored and wants to move out of No. 2 in a month, in which case he will leave the rest up to Ella. The next morning, while Rouse and niece are attending Mass, he secretly encounters a brief love affair between Benoit and the lodger nurse. As days go by, that nurse becomes the dominant factor of life at No. 2, keeping the entire house in shape.

One morning, a stay-at-home Haynes witnesses Sonny, Nurse Jackson's son, being beaten by the landlord over his prize for winning a marbles game: a kiss for his opponent, Maisie. After a caning from the nurse, he is chased by her all the way to Haynes’ room, where he hides from her. Then, as she calls him out like she would a dog, Haynes misses his chance to save Sonny, who is intent on staying with him for protection. But upon a further caning by Sonny's mother, the bachelor decides he must move back to Ella, even with an injured foot.

That evening, the nurse comes by to check on his foot and have it treated—the first of such a series of twice-daily visits. Only some days later does his foot become any better.

Another few days pass, and the people at No. 2 are preparing to avoid the local bailiff and Mr. Brown from visiting their home. Luckily, both are nowhere to be seen; but word of the two crops up in their conversations for days afterward.

Because of a fight between her and Mrs. Rouse, the nurse soon leaves the house. Troubled times thus begin herein: another morning later, a policeman asks for Aucher, who turns out to be a thief; and quarrels between Benoit and Mrs. Rouse erupt for nights at a time, all due to the nurse's departure and her love for the landlord. Even the two try to murder each other, and for that action Haynes decides strongly to move out.

Surprisingly, Nurse Jackson passes her examinations, thanks partly to Benoit's help, but nothing more than her affair with the landlord is talked of for days at No. 2. More surprisingly, they both have been engaged, and news of their romance and upcoming marriage crops up regularly soon after.

Their wedding takes place at nine on a Sunday morning, at the start of the month, but the people at the house are getting impatient about Miss Atwell's arrival from the ceremony. When she returns at 11, she tells them everything that happened during that ceremony (the centre of attention being the nurse's expensive white fugi dress).

Later on, No. 2 is put up for mortgage, but as an ailing Mrs. Rouse is warned by Haynes, it will take eight years before the house can fully be paid off, even with her cake business on the decline. With Mrs. Rouse, Haynes learns how much the house has fared from the time it was built at the start of the First World War.

Then, upon visiting her, he learns of Ella's sickness and that a friend will replace her once she is taken to her mother in the country.

December comes, and Haynes, meeting Benoit for the first time since he married the nurse, is nervous to see how much he has changed. It is rumoured that things have not been going well for the couple, and the landlord has had no new job out of this.

In spite of their recent woes, Christmas goes on cheerfully for the residents of the house. During the holiday, a freed Aucher helps the rest of them as they work harder than ever to keep No. 2 clean, while Haynes decides to spend some time at the seaside for his health's sake.

On Boxing Day, the company at the house, Haynes included, delight themselves with an enjoyable lunch, after which Miss Atwell honours Haynes in a short speech. The bachelor's reply turns out to be "the speech of his life".

On New Year's Eve, Miss Atwell pays Haynes a visit, telling him Ella is still sick. On the New Year's holiday the following day, he pays Mrs. Rouse $20 in advance (a plan he had made with Maisie) for the sake of remaining at the house via boarding.

Three days later, he learns of the now-recovered headmistress's return to town, even though she has not come to No. 2, because Haynes feels that he does not want her. For another two or three days, he ponders on what has recently come of him.

In the midst of a quarrel between Rouse and niece, over Haynes' alienation from Ella, the bachelor is refunded his boarding fee. Now he wants to strike out vulgarly against them both.

Late one afternoon, while on a tramcar in town, Haynes encounters the nurse being arrested for stealing clothes. He hurries home to tell everyone at No. 2 about it, but all of them are hearing Philomen's account of the event as he arrives. Then Haynes reads a letter from Nurse Jackson addressed to Rouse, in which the nurse defames Rouse's past relationship with Benoit.

With Jackson on bail, gloom hangs over No. 2 once again. On the morning of her trial, everyone but Aucher is in Court to hear of the nurse's fate: she is fined £15 or three months in prison. (This is the last time Haynes will ever see her again in person.) Later, due to accusations about her husband living with another woman, the nurse and her son leave for the United States.

After the case, Haynes finds a friend—and lover—in Rouse's niece. But she wants to avoid the presence of her aunt's secret admirer, Sgt. Parkes (a father of six), for fear of a do-over of Rouse's former affairs with Benoit. She does so on the Friday morning of his visit, and for this, Haynes gets upset over Maisie. Later that afternoon, Mrs. Rouse tells him, in distaste, that Benoit has returned by surprise; and, at dusk, Aucher tells them the sergeant (whom Rouse is not interested in seeing) has come back.

For the next several weeks, Mrs. Rouse tries not to let her house be sold, without Mr. Rojas' help, to a woman who is willing to buy the property.

One day, nearly a year after his debut at No. 2, Haynes stunningly finds the major compartments of the kitchen have moved to outside for the sake of convenience. Then, he discovers just how much Philomen has changed in weight and appearance. This is due to heavy work and a love affair with Sugedo, which makes Maisie develop hatred for the servant. To avoid further trouble with Rouse, she is forced to move out of her home and live with her new employer, Gomes. A tearful farewell takes place at No. 2, whence Mrs. Rouse also cries for her before she leaves; Haynes is a part of it as well.

Just when life at No. 2 begins anew without Philomen, so its trials and tribulations resume: Maisie and some others are soon accused by Mrs. Rouse for being involved in a string of petty thefts, rising by the score. It comes to a climax one Sunday morning when Mrs. Rouse finds a dollar bill belonging to Haynes, with her niece unwilling to admit to this theft. She disappears from Haynes' sight the rest of the day.

After spending a worry-free August by the seaside while on leave, Haynes returns to No. 2 on the final day of the month—a rainy Sunday—and finds out that nothing has changed. As Mrs. Rouse calls for Maisie, right before Haynes and a few lodgers, the niece speaks out against her being treated by her aunt, and also against her aunt's past love life with Benoit.

Thus the ultimate quarrel between the two ensues on a now-muddy yard, during which Mrs. Rouse throws away all of her niece's goods out into the mire. Supporting his now almost-defeated lover, Haynes is angry at her aunt, while the niece, in revenge, ruins some of her aunt's attire amid her own outfits.

Angry at Mrs. Rouse, she sneaks away from the rest of the lodgers. Four nights later, Haynes meets her at a nearby park for the last time; she tells the bachelor of her plans for New York City. Another two days pass before she heads to the Big Apple by boat. Life at No. 2, for Haynes, will never be the same without her, and thus he cannot afford to stay there.

As September comes to an end, Rouse informs him that the former landlord has suffered a stroke, which she is not sorry to see him get. Both head to the Government Hospital that Sunday night to make sure he is there, since they are unable to visit him. The two of them leave, walking up the street—Rouse to her church for prayers, and Haynes to No. 2, where he and Miss Atwell discuss about Benoit's past and present. Rouse joins them both after her session has finished.

Late that same night, Haynes decides that he should end his life at the house, for all the effects that Maisie's immigration has left on him. Next morning, 22 September, he wakes up uneasily to the news of McCarthy Benoit's death: this event, in turn, causes regular life at No. 2 to come to an end.

Entering October, Haynes finds new lodgings with Ella's help, and this leaves Rouse and Atwell as the caretakers of the house before it can legally be sold. (Gomes [Haynes' new neighbour] and Mr. Rojas are taking over Rouse's declining cake business.)

Though his visits are less frequent in time to come, bachelor Haynes often passes by No. 2, thinking of all that used to happen there. At the end of the novel, a family of five—husband, wife and three children—happen to be its new residents.

Characters

 * Mr. Haynes, a 20-year-old bachelor of Creole descent.
 * Ella, Haynes' house servant.
 * Alice Rouse, the owner of No. 2 Minty Alley, where Haynes eventually resides.
 * McCarthy Benoit, Mrs. Rouse's womanising boyfriend.
 * Nurse Jackson, the lodger who develops an affair with Mr. Benoit.
 * Sonny, the nurse's son.
 * Philomen, an East Indian servant lady.
 * Wilhelmina, another servant lady.
 * Miss Atwell, a resident of No. 2 who is in defensive confinement.
 * Boyce, a friend of Haynes.
 * Carritt, an elder book dealer.
 * Thomas Inniss (aka Aucher), a household worker who has been a thief.
 * Maisie, Mrs. Rouse's niece who lives in Minty Alley.

Release
Minty Alley was originally published in the United Kingdom by Secker & Warburg in 1936. A new edition of the novel was issued by New Beacon Books in 1971 (ISBN 0-901241-08-3), and in 1997 the University Press of Mississippi published a US edition (ISBN 1-5780-6027-3). In 2021, a new edition was published by Penguin Books (ISBN 978-0-241-48266-7), in the series "Black Britain: Writing Back" curated by Bernardine Evaristo.

Reception
Writing in Kirkus Reviews on the 80th anniversary of Minty Alley's publication, Gregory McNamee says: "In that complex though short novel, James condenses a whole world of class and ethnic differences within the short street for which the book is named, with servants and working people scrambling to make a living while the somewhat better-off residents of the alley feud and scheme among themselves. No matter what station they hold, the people of Minty Alley do best when they work together. They all agree, though, that elsewhere is better than there, the best elsewhere of all lying far over the horizon at the end of the packet steamer route to New York City."

Dramatisation
A dramatisation by Margaret Busby of Minty Alley, directed by Pam Fraser Solomon (with a cast that included Doña Croll, Angela Wynter, Martina Laird, Nina Wadia, Julian Francis, Geff Francis, Vivienne Rochester and Burt Caesar), was first broadcast on BBC Radio 4 on 12 June 1998,  winning a Commission for Racial Equality (CRE) "Race in the Media Award" in 1999.

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Talk:Blackball

--50.104.207.91 (talk) 02:20, 17 December 2013 (UTC)==Ancient Greek Voting==

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Dimly I remember my old college history professor say something about the ancient Greeks, where they took turns taking a ball out of a sack, and the person who got the black ball ended up getting some government duty. It was something that was not wanted by the person getting the black ball, as it was extra work. Does anyone know anything about this?

Freemasonry
I'm surprised that no one has spotted that there's no reference to Freemasonry in this entry, nor has anyone corrected it. I think we've all been sleeping on the job. What the?!? :P

 * Modern masonry dates back essentially to the 18th century (first Grand Lodge in 1717) whereas the origins of the blackball lie in ancient Greece, where people were ostracised by use of the ostrakhon (shell or potsherd) as a ballot in voting: see ostracize.  There is no reference to the blackball in the long article on Freemasonry and, although freemasons may use the blackball, they are no different in this respect from any other private club. So I propose to modify the suggestion that the blackball began with freemasons whilst adding a reference to freemasons elsewhere.  Chelseaboy 17:00, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Blackballing Is also a form of male hazing ritual in which the victim's genitals are covered in black shoe polish. Common in the British boarding schools and some fraternities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 999th choice (talk • contribs) 21:41, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Blacklist?
Do the terms blackball, blacklist relate or what other terms relate to the phenomenon on the internet where contributors, participants on internet forums, listserv forums are excluded by another contributor, participant or by a moderator's editorial privilege used unfairly?...

Requested move
Blackball (blacklist) → Blackballing – Naming conventions prefer using the gerund of verbs and it would obviate the need to have "(blacklist)" in the title. -- Kjkolb 07:10, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Moving Talk:Blackballing to the Talk:Blackball (dab), which is where the actual article is now! Dunno why the talk page didn't go with it. Have to do this via WP:RM as there's alrady something at Talk:Blackball now (just a redirect to Talk:Blackballing). — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 04:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I completed the move requested at WP:RM. I confess to not quite understanding which talk page goes with which article here, but if SMcCandlish says it all makes sense, I'll trust him. -GTBacchus(talk) 10:04, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :-)  It worked fine. —  SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 02:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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Bliss (short story)

"Bliss" is a modernist short story by Katherine Mansfield first published in 1918. It was published in the English Review in August 1918 and later reprinted in Bliss and Other Stories.

Plot summary
The story follows a dinner party given by Bertha Young and her husband Harry.

The story starts with Bertha in a blissful mood as her party approaches, as she considers the specialness and unconventionality of her mood. The maid has prepared a colourful fruit tray for the party, which Bertha will arrange. The nanny is feeding the baby, who reluctantly lets Bertha hold her. The moment of connection with her daughter brings her more bliss.

After a phone call from her husband, who is running late, Bertha thinks ahead to who will attend the party that evening. A couple, Mr. and Mrs. Norman Knight (close friends to Bertha and Harry), Eddie Warren, a neurotic and sought-after writer, and Pearl, a strange, mysterious young woman that Bertha has taken a liking to after meeting at a club. As she prepares the drawing room cushions, Bertha recalls how Harry has declared that he finds Pearl dull. She is sure there is much more to her. Her feeling of bliss continues as she hugs the cushions and looks over the balcony to a most perfect blossoming pear tree in the garden, which she imagines "as a symbol of her own life." She lists to herself some of the many aspects of her life she is grateful for, and finds that her outfit is even reminiscent of the tree.

As the guests start to arrive, with Mr and Mrs Norman Knight calling each other nicknames and Eddie complaining about his taxi, she notes their outfits and appreciates how attractive the company is. As Harry arrives late, she considers the charm of her husband's eccentricities. Pearl is the last to arrive and, as Bertha takes her arm to lead her to the dining room, she feels an intense yet unspoken intimacy with her guest.

With everyone present, the meal begins. Compliments are paid regarding the food as theatre is discussed, and Bertha is overcome again by a sense of bliss, delighting in the company she has chosen. She thinks of the perfect pear tree in the moonlight in the garden, as she wonders how she can feel so connected to Pearl. She is somehow sure that Pearl must be feeling the same.

After dinner, when Pearl asks if Bertha has a garden, she takes it as a sign of their connection and leads her to the garden window. Here, she opens the curtains to reveal the pear tree. The two women stand side-by-side admiring its beauty and in a seemingly perfect moment of mutual understanding and bliss, when the lights are snapped on and the moment ends.

They rejoin the group for coffee, cigarettes, and more lively conversation. Bertha thinks about how her husband is being quite rude to Pearl, which upsets Bertha. She decides that she will try to find a way to explain to him what she and Pearl have shared, but also realises that soon the party will end. She fears she will be alone with just her husband but then, "for the first time in her life", finds that she is also filled with desire for him. She wonders if this ardent feeling is what all her bliss has been leading up to.

As the guests begin to leave to catch their trains and taxis, Harry goes to help Pearl with her coat in the hallway, which Bertha appreciates considering his earlier brusqueness. In the drawing room still, Bertha fetches a book for Eddie to borrow. As she turns her head to peer down the hallway she sees Pearl and Harry in a romantic embrace, secretly arranging to see each other the next day.

Not knowing they have been spotted, Pearl returns to the drawing room to say goodbye to Bertha and mentions the pear tree. As the final guests leave, Harry nonchalantly locks up behind them. Uncertain about the future, Bertha runs to her garden window and gazes upon her perfect tree, "as lovely as ever."

Characters in "Bliss"

 * Bertha Young - the main character, age 30
 * Harry - Bertha's husband
 * Little Bertha/Little B - Bertha's baby daughter
 * Mary - servant
 * Nanny - Little B's nurse
 * Mr and Mrs Norman Knight - dinner guests
 * Eddie Warren - a poet
 * Pearl Fulton - a young, beguiling blonde woman

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Talk:William A. H. Loveland

Loveland, Ohio

 * His father was the Rev. Leonard Loveland, after whom Loveland, Ohio is named.

I dispute this statement: I am a resident of Loveland, Ohio, and it is common knowledge here that the city was named after James Loveland. In fact, I state that here, and cite the this Loveland website as a source.

– Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs, blog) 18:50, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Strathcona Park

Strathcona Park can refer to:

Parks

 * Strathcona Provincial Park in British Columbia, Canada
 * Strathcona Park (Ottawa) in Ottawa, Canada

Communities

 * Strathcona Park, Calgary, a neighbourhood in Calgary, Canada

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Talk:Bliss (short story)

Too much interpretation
Whoa, whoa, whoa. This is not the space to put your essay for class. This is a space for an objective synopsis of the story. I'm cleaning this up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.140.105.16 (talk) 12:29, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Ugh, I cleared it up, but Wikipedia didn't save it. Probably if I had had quotes it wouldn't have done that. i tried. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.140.105.10 (talk) 15:09, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Started
I started this article, please extend it - especially synopsis and interpretation could use some enhancement. Maybe also the underlying sexual attraction between Bertha and Pearl and the lack thereof between Bertha and Harry would be worth mentioning. (clem 18:51, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC))

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Whoa I'm real confused here. Where in the text do we see evidence that Harry is cheating on Bertha with Pearl? —Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)

-at the end of the text

"His lips said: 'I adore you.'" (That is, he is spekaing quietly, but Bertha sees him -- and his lips.)211.225.37.105 (talk) 08:08, 17 September 2011 (UTC) 211.225.37.105 (talk) 08:08, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Fix-up needed
"But that it is our choice whether or not we wish to live in ignorance, or dive deeper into ourselves even if it scares us to discover what we find there." This is a fragment. 211.225.37.105 (talk) 08:08, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Dates
--- " first published in 1920. It was first published in the English Review in August 1918 " which? William Hickey (talk) 09:17, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derek Jones

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. — Xezbeth 08:16, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Derek Jones
non-notable/vanity page Gblaz 18:51, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete.  --Robojames 18:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Deleet.  --Horatio86 12:20, 7 Jun 2005 (PDT)

 * Delete. Nothing indicates notability. -- BD2412 talk 19:26, 2005 Jun 7 (UTC)
 * Delete. Vanity page MarkS 19:44, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn vanity. --Etacar11 01:46, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete non notable. JamesBurns 05:46, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Someone must have been dizzy at the time. DrippingInk 22:30, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.  Please do not edit this page .


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Palermo Anno Uno

Palermo Anno Uno (Palermo Year One) is an Italian anti-mafia organization, based in Palermo, Sicily. It is an umbrella organization for different NGOs opposing organized crime.

History
Palermo Anno Uno was founded in March 1993, following the massive demonstrations all over Sicily following the murder of Giovanni Falcone in May 1992, as a mean to go from protest to proposals in the war against organized crime.

For its efforts against organized crime, it was awarded the 1996 Rafto Prize.

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testing. looking. seeing what this is...

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Talk:Water Margin

=Administrative=

To rewrite
This section was put on the lead because it is a large chunk of the page that needs to be rewritten. It details only the last few chapters of the book. The entire book needs to be detailed. The chapter outline is not detailed enough. Here is what was redacted from the page:

78-80 Gao Qiu's imperial assault (the fifth) on Liangshan Marsh Marshal Gao Qiu is the commander-in-chief of the expedition against the Liangshan bandits. He summons Commander Liu Menglong, who is adept in naval warfare, and 10 commandants from the various provinces in the empire, to aid in the expedition. The Liangshan bandits, upon knowing this, prepare for battle by readying their weapons, horses, soldiers and rations. In addition, Lin Chong, Huyan Zhuo and Hua Rong are tasked with 2000 men each to make an initial challenge at the imperial force's castle. A few of Marshal Gao's generals are killed and he quickly withdraws his forces into the castle. This provides a great morale boost to the Liangshan bandits.

In order to conquer Liangshan, the imperial forces have to traverse the 800 li marsh. Commander Liu is in charge of the naval forces during this battle. However, the Ruan brothers of Liangshan manage to rout Commander Liu's forces when he is forced to split his boats in order to pass narrow creeks. Commander Liu is captured but released. Marshal Gao executes Commander Liu for the failure, and also due to him being redundant as all his men are killed or captured in the marsh.

The 10 commandants suggest that 100 paddleboats be built for another assault. This time, Gao Qiu leads the assault force by himself. However, the Liangshan bandits again win the battle by having their men diving under Marshal Gao's boats and making holes in them. Gao Qiu is captured and brought to the Liangshan stronghold.

81-82 The Outlaws are granted amnesty

Lin Chong, upon hearing of Gao Qiu's capture, grabs his weapon and is ready to execute him. However, Song Jiang prevents him from doing so, saying Gao Qiu would make it easier for the Liangshan heroes to be granted amnesty. Marshal Gao Qiu and his assistant, Captain Li are kept at the Liangshan stronghold for several days, with good food and lodging. Finally Song Jiang meets with Gao Qiu and proposes to release him together with Captain Li, on the condition that he help with persuading the Song emperor (Huizhong) in granting the Liangshan bandits amnesty. Gao Qiu readily agrees to the condition to save his own life.

When Gao Qiu is about to leave Liangshan, Lin Chong gets wind of his impending departure from Yan Qing and rushes to the shore with Lu Zhishen, only to see Gao Qiu's boat rowing away in the distance. Lin Chong vomits blood and faints, and becomes bedridden.

Gao Qiu, upon returning, feigns illness to avoid punishment by the emperor for his failure in the expedition. The Imperial Tutor, Cai Jing, comes to visit him for a discussion. He suggests that Gao Qiu recommend the emperor to grant amnesty to the Liangshan bandits, so that they can order the bandits to go after Fang La in the south, who has declared himself an emperor. This would greatly weaken the forces of Song's men so that the treacherous officials can more easily deal with them.

Song Jiang's men are finally granted amnesty, but some of the brothers decide to reject the offer of officialship and leave the Liangshan brotherhood. Lin Chong finally dies after his prolonged period in bed, regretting his failure to kill Gao Qiu. --Ghostexorcist 10:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

 * I think it would be better to omit an extremely detailed, chapter by chapter summary of the book. It creates a very long and somewhat unorganized section or page. Instead, I think we should summarize the story through the main plot points and events. Otherwise, we could also summarize the novel through biographies of the various main characters and their progression through the novel.

--Technicolor852 (talk) 21:48, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Discussion
While I have not been vouchsafed what harm headings that I would describes as being "at the page" rather than lower in a "page", top section", secondary section", ... etc. sequence (down to a level where additional bracketing pairs of equal-signs stop having any effect on the hdgs' displayed forms (that I've noticed)) is wp:deprecated, my intended use of such was recently reverted. If some sections at especially deep levels on this talk page eventually become otherwise indistinguishable, carry on yourself, perhap reseacrhing what remedies are recommended but not deprecated. I ain'tcha mama.--JerzyA (talk) 01:39, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

(Apparent confusion in the pinyin)
(I.e. The quasi-romanization (maybe Wade-Giles?), via (IIRC!) representing each character's syllable, coding its two vocal characteristics as, respectively, a roman-alphabet representation of its phoneme sequence, followed by an arabic digit coding one of a handful of intonation patterns.) --JerzyA (talk), (perhaps several saves, in the hour or so preceding 05:26, 15 September 2019 (UTC))
 * I noticed that the pinyin title is shui(3)hu(3)chuan(2). It should be shui(3)hu(3)thuan(4).  That character has multiple readings.  I'll leave it to the community to decide to change it, though.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.118.234.247 (talk) 12:52, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Giantcn
To Giantcn - if you insist on having it your way, fine. You are a mere vandal who will be despised by the wiki community and I do not see how your article which is written in an incomprehensible language, can possibly be beneficial to anyone, given this is an encyclopaedia. Chensiyuan 20:31, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Why are you afraid of keeping my talk intact so that other can know who is ignorant about Water Margin in fact? Why not duel by words on the understanding of Water Margin? Let other wikipedians be the judge, to see whose article is shit and who will be despised by others. taunt and threat are not good ways for fight. I am waiting for you.--Giantcn
 * This is turnin out to be quite funny, but it is VERY, VERY evident that Giant is a fool --70.26.180.74 03:01, 21 November 2005 (UTC)<!>:::
 * Fools, and even inveterate fools are fairly well tolerated on WP. Editors who edit-in appropriate <\nowiki> against unsupported assertions, and treat efforts and even intentions to provide valid evidence are called WP:wikipedians(and hardly ever clowns nor vandals). --JerzyA (talk) 01:39, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * ya, if you are really sincere you should put it up in the talk page - the grammar is substantially bad. plus syntax. maybe youre better off editing it in your chinese, since i presume ur cn stands for china or sth. keep the main page free of errors for everybodys sake 128.100.167.111 21:09, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
 * For the sake of everyone, I tried to edit around the entries; as I went along however I realise a shake-up is more appropriate. The entry in general has several other problems associated with whether it is even encylopedic at all - 67.70.88.66
 * this whole article needs a quality improvement, some sections do not convey the ideas very well.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE IF YOU CANNOT WRITE IN ENGLISH DONT BURDEN EVERYONE ELSE ENCYCLOPEDIAS ARE MEANT TO BE EDUCATIONAL  70.48.7.13--
 * Partial(?) strikethru by JerzyA (talk) 22:12, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Speaking as a sesqui- -lingual English speaker (I can sometimes rely on my horrid German for a half hour before someone bilingual (usually a German, tho occasionally a fluent -- usually resident -- Yank is often at hand). Learning foreign languages is a big task, and those who succeed ought to be grateful, not lord it over anyone else. While I can't speak for any other linguistic community, I will strike down with great fury any yank who talks to others that way about users of other languages. I welcome students of English, and just in case this colleague is truly bi- or multi-lingual, I say "Just help with the project, without trying to be an enforcer for the community.  Now, that said, if you're another native-speaker fan-boy, get lost, twerp: there're adults at work here, and we get it that our allies are not every native-speaker jerk who by  luck was spawned by English-mumbling parents, so that's their rudimentary first language, stands in a position to pick and choose editing colleagues. You're welcome (or, at least probably too negligible to take the trouble of kicking you out) working nicely with all the rest of us. Please get back to that. --JerzyA (talk) 22:12, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Requests

 * I cleaned up the "Fiction and Realities" section for style and grammar. If anybody can verify the Mao/Deng incident with a source or give more info, that'd be nice. Links to different versions of the story availible in translation would also be handy. Lampros 21:12, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Should there maybe be a synopsis somewhere? And is there a free translation anywhere online? 141.140.125.120 20:25, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Hello guys! I was wondering if we could start a new section on the plot of Water Margin as in the major happenings in the novel, so as to enable readers to determine whether to read the novel? Thanks. Kiwi8 17:16, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I started on Chapter 78-80, as the TV show in my country has just finished showing that. Will try to fill in the rest when I have the time. Meanwhile, those of you who know the contents of the novel very well, feel free to fill in the missing chapters, or refine my contribution. Kiwi8 18:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * yeah by all means. just create a new section with a plot synopsis and people would take it from thereChensiyuan 18:16, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Question

 * I remember reading in the water margin somewhere that a Taoist priest attached talismans to a fellow outlaw’s arms and legs, which allowed them to run very fast (provided they refrained from eating meat and drinking alcohol). Was this Taoist Gongsun Sheng or Pan Rui?

The reason I ask is because I feel it is note worthy to be added to either magicians’ article. (Ghostexorcist 11:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC))

 * It was Dai Zhong. Thanks for the answer. The magic running info is already on his page. (Ghostexorcist 18:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC))

Translations
Could we put a small block of text in all four translations (Buck, Shapiro, Dent-Young, J.H. Jackson), in WikiSource perhaps and link to it, so that a reader can compare the different translations? Or is this totally outside the scope of the "major" Wiki pages? 85.75.96.254 18:25, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a great idea to me. Bertport 19:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Zhou Tong
Okay, I’ve got a question for those who have read the original Chinese version of the water margin. Apart from the 'Little Tyrant' Zhou Tong (周通), is there ever a similarly named Zhou Tong (monk) (周侗) (different characters) mentioned in regards to Wu Song, Lin Chong or Lu Junyi in the book? The reason I ask is because the Zhou Tong in question is said, acording to popular chinese legend, to be the martial arts master of these three outlaws.

General Yue Fei’s fictional biography (early - mid Qing Dynasty) explicitly mentions Lin Chong and Lu Junyi as Zhou Tong's students. However there is no historical evidence to support this as far as I know. That having been said, I believe that since the water margin was written well before Yue Fei’s fictional biography (which many take as historical fact), the original author fused elements from that book into his. Thoughts? (Ghostexorcist 07:23, 25 December 2006 (UTC))

Adaptations
Strikes me that some of the adaptations are famous enough in their own right to merit entries. I'm specifically thinking: However, the recent TV series and other films may also qualify (I don't know much about them though) hence the disambiguous nature of the names. I was thinking along teh lines of the War of the Worlds adaptations eventually. --(Emperor 16:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC))
 * Water Margin (1977 TV series)
 * Water Margin (1972 film) - the Shaw Brothers film
 * I find it note worthy that these characters have become such a part of Chinese tradition that they are almost arch-type status. One can see characters in many other movies which characters are easily recognizable from the Water Front, e.g. in the big brawl at the inn in "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon".
 * —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.136.54.27 (talk) 10:49, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

- - - - 120 chapter version of water margin?- - - -
I'm very interested in reading this novel as well as well as Romance of the Three Kingdoms, but I read on here that there is an extended 120 chapter version. How can this be when the English translations only have 100 chapters? Will this be available? I want to get it, but somehow feel that I wouldn't be getting the complete story, even though it's 100 chapters... - - - - Cttt —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cttt (talk • contribs) 17:59, 17 February 2007 (UTC).
 * It's not like the book was written by an American and translated into Chinese. It's 100% Chinese. There are many versions of it out there, including a 120 chapter version. The English translation is based upon the 100 and 70 chapter editions. (Ghostexorcist 22:01, 17 February 2007 (UTC))
 * Well, I understand, but is the 120 chapter version available in English?Cttt
 * I doubt it. Just go with Sydney Shapiro's 100 chapter translation or learn Chinese. (Ghostexorcist 11:55, 27 February 2007 (UTC))
 * Thanks, I think I'll do that... I've heard his translation is good...What did you think of it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cttt (talk • contribs)
 * I think it's excellent. However, I've never read the Chinese version. (Ghostexorcist 04:50, 1 March 2007 (UTC))
 * The Dent-Young translation is of the 120-chapter version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.112.70.56 (talk) 23:08, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Move

 * I moved this from the header box where it DID NOT belong.(Ghostexorcist 11:55, 27 February 2007 (UTC))

Hi, I have just amended the origins of the Water Margin. However I discover that my amendments were reverted repeatedly. I do not mean to impose myself on this community but I wish to inform the readers of the factual information I have come across while researching on the Water Margin.

As I am now researching critiques of the Water Margin for my work, I have come across numerous citations in various literature reviews published by Chinese scholars on the subject matter. The Water Margin was in fact written by Shi Nai Yan and edited by Luo Guan Zong as mentioned in a symposium for the Water Margin. It is also set in the Northern Song Dynasty as you can find in the novel, it was during the reign of emporer Zhe Zong (哲宗). He was the third last emporer of the Northern Song dynasty and peasant uprisings were common during the end of the Northern Song.

Please understand that Wikipedia is a collaborative effort by everyone to make the articles more accurate, and not merely vandalism. We need to work on the basis of mutual respect, and not dismiss others so quickly.

Talkativeman 08:45, 27 February 2007 (UTC)talkativeman

 * it's really a credibility issue. for e.g., 中 in Luo's name is clearly Zhong, not Zong. and it's 101% the "Ruan" brothers, not "Yuan" brothers. so when you keep editing otherwise, it seems your research is already suspect. Chensiyuan 17:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Merge from Guo Shiguang
Whichever editor removed the merge tags, please don't repeat that, removal of administrative tags is considered vandalism.

I propose the merger from Guo Shiguang, as it a stub with little to no information about the character, and completely irrelevant outside of the context of the main article Water Margin. The character is not mentioned in the box at the end of article.

If the character's notability isn't asserted, I will be nominating the stub for deletion in 48 hours. Thanks

xC | ☎  04:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The colleague who added that however esthetically and technically impressive sig should be studied or contacteded via their acct. name and talk page, to wit Xcentaur & tk
 * I think he is notable to a certain extent because he killed Xuan Zan, but the page is clearly lacking in many areas. I second your merge nomination. (Ghostexorcist 04:56, 8 March 2007 (UTC))
 * you didn't even provide a reason for merging, you are the true vandal. suppose i go around putting merge tags without explaining why, would i not be the destructive person. whoever that put the merge tag for no reason, please don't repeat that, as you are wasting people's time. Chensiyuan 06:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * He has already provided a perfectly good reason for the merge. He stated the page was "a stub with little to no information about the character, and completely irrelevant outside of the context of the main article Water Margin." I don't see what the problem is. Why do you feel it necessary to attack him? (Ghostexorcist 06:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC))

 * it's very simple. he called me a vandal for removing the tag. i removed it because he did not provide a merge reason *at the point* where he put the tag. so he has provided a reason now, but he cannot expect people not to remove the tag when he put it up and offered no reason at that point in time. apart from the fact that i am not attacking him, he chose to call me a vandal first, and without reason, on those two counts.

 * Well if you have been editing here for a while, you should know better than to delete administrative tags without discussion. Even if he didn't give an explanation at first, a line of discussion should have been at least attempted before anything was deleted. I think him calling you a vandal was in response to your immediate removal of the tag. Now that we know why the tag was removed and put back up, I think we should start discussing the merger instead of throwing names back and forth.(Ghostexorcist 06:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC))

 * fair enough. that would be counterproductive. how do you propose it be merged. centaur's alternative is to delete it. i cannot understand how that is productive. Water Margin is a classic text; there are some at most 200 characters in Water Margin. while i am not saying every character should be given treatment in WP, insofar as each character was covered to some degree in the story, the notability is obvious. in Guo Shiguang's case, he may not be as significant as the 108, but some of the 108 are also barely mentioned in the story, but the 108 will always remain notable. i don't see why it cannot remain a stub. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chensiyuan (talk • contribs)

 * moreover, you did not even propose how the two can be integrated. Chensiyuan 06:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I'll reply pointwise -
 * Kindly do not call me a vandal, that is a personal attack. Please note the language I used - removing the template a second time would be considered vandalism. Please take note of WP:NPA.
 * I have successfully completed over 25 different merges in different fields all over WP. My involvement with Proposed mergers testifies to that. I have never found it to be a requirement to list reasons for a merge when one of the pages involved is merely a stub.
 * Your assessment that I am wasting people's time is merely your point of view, if you could give me concrete reasons why or how my contributions are wasting people's time, I would be grateful.
 * Proposals for the merger - in such cases, generally one of the following is done -
 * Seperate section for 'bit parts' or characters with small roles to play in the overall story
 * Seperate page altogether for characters of unclear importance. He is not mentioned sufficiently in the main article to warrant a seperate sub-section of his own, but if his role is notable, then he could be in a seperate section on that page. (See Animorphs)
 * Lastly, any unique implementation which all editors agree to, which preserves the meaning and importance of the character without content forking or duplication of storylines
 * If all the above fail, then the stub is usually turned into a re-direct or nominated for deletion.

Thanks xC | ☎  07:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Lin Chong -- Synopsis errors
I just finished Sidney Shapiro's translation, and the synopsis for chapters 81-82 is off. Lin Chong -- according to Shapiro's version -- dies of illness late into the Fang La campaign, well after Gao Qiu is released, and never tries to kill Gao. Also, Gao and the corrupt officials do not explicitly send the bandits against Fang La to weaken them (in fact, the bandits petition the emperor to send them against Fang La, as they want to further distinguish themselves against the enemies of the emperor).

Could someone clarify if the synopsis is from a different translation, or is just wrong? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.185.151.226 (talk) 15:29, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

 * Yes different versions tell it differently. Chensiyuan 11:56, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Japan
Shouldn't Eiji Yoshikawa's adaptaion be listed in the Japanese section? 70.55.84.13 (talk) 13:07, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

redirects
水滸傳 and 水浒传 should exist as native language redirects. 70.51.9.170 (talk) 05:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Wade-Giles
The Wade-Giles names should exist in the article and as redirects. 70.51.9.170 (talk) 05:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

reverted for unknown reason
Popular saying Regarding this novel and another Chinese classic Romance of the Three Kingdoms, there is a popular saying in China that goes: "少不讀水滸, 老不讀三國", translated as "The young shouldn't read Water Margin while the old shouldn't read The Three Kingdoms." The former depicts the lives of outlaws and their defiance with the established social system. Depicting frequent violence, brawls, passionate brotherhood and an emphasis on machismo, it could easily have a negative influence on young boys. The latter presents all kinds of sophisticated stratagem, deceptions, frauds, trickeries, traps and snares employed by the three kingdoms and their individual characters to compete with each other, which might tempt the experienced old readers (the elderly are traditionally well respected, trusted and considered wise and kindhearted in Chinese society) to use them to harm other people. Also, old people are supposed to "know the will of the heavens" (says Confucius). They shouldn't exhaust or strain themselves with always having to consider how to deceive others The above was excised. However, since the Romance of the Three Kingdoms article contains this information, this article should as well. So, why doesn't it? 07:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

 * I'm not the person who did it, but it was reverted because the paragraph had no citations. I have heard the sayings before myself, though. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 12:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The reverting colleague vandalized, whether or not intentionally. The remedies for the original situation include
 * Providing a valid citation
 * Adding the markup        around the material needing verification. Simply removing non-absurd text for simply lack of a suitable ref is a substantial instance of WP:V. --

Recent edits
I am, as is often the case, grateful to editor Sevilledade for the dedication to detail and editing zeal, but I do not follow the reasoning in the Sept 14 set of changes, for which no sources are given. Sevilledade is too intelligent an editor to make changes without good grounds, but until we can see what they are, I feel justified in using the good points in the recent edits but restoring the basic content of the earlier one. I am away from my books and references, so please correct me if I am wrong. The comment on the edits is
 * The information regarding the first printed edition and other editions (70, 100, 120) is already mentioned below. This introduction is talking about when it was written. Also removed the duplicate reference (Yenna) that was cited twice.

The lede is not the place to go into great detail, to be sure, but Shui Hu Zhuan as we know it was not written in the 14th century, though important elements can be traced to this period. That is, the origins are 14th century, but not the present novel itself. Surely an honest description of the novel must mention that the first printed version we have is 1589, and that we have no firm evidence for authorship, whether to Shi Nai’an or anyone else. The point which Yenna Wu makes, which Andrew Plaks established about the four great late Ming novels, synthesizing many earlier works, was that these novels were new creations using old material. As Plaks puts it, “none of these 16th century editions is an entirely original literary creation” but “represents the culmination of a long prior and subsequent history of source materials, antecedent narratives, and alternate recensions.”[Andrew H. Plaks. The Four Masterworks of the Ming Novel : Ssu Ta Ch'i-Shu. (Princeton, N.J.: Princeton University Press, 1987). ISBN 0691067082. p.3] That is, there is no one authoritative text. The late Ming literati reworked earlier material to make what Plaks argues are decisively different from and a “significant advance over their hypothetical or extant antecedents.” [p. 5] Qing dynasty editors such as Jing Shengtan or Zhang Jupo later freely abridged or rewrote them into popular editions on which some English translations are based. This is why our readers need to know that there are 70, 100, and 120 chapter versions. Plaks Chapter 4, “Shui-hu chuan: Deflation of Heroism (pp. 279-359) discusses the textual history in some detail. Given these scholarly findings, the best thing for us is to simply state facts: the first extant printed edition is late Ming, using materials which go back to the 14th century. Plaks shows that the late Ming literati versions are the ones we read today, and on which our translations are based. They established the model for what we call “the classical Chinese novel.” Plaks sums up: “I will attempt to refute the common view that this genre is primarily an outgrowth of the popular tradition, relating it instead to patterns of composition, critical theories, and prevailing intellectual trends more characteristic of the literati milieu.” [p. 16] This is more detail than we need in the lede, but neither we should not insert material which contradicts the standard scholarship. If I have misunderstood, please correct, but with sources. I am at a loss to understand why a passing reference in a footnote in Robin Porter’s book on a completely different topic is restored to two references while a standard treatment by a specialist in this field is removed (and called by her given name, not her family name). Robin Porter is an excellent scholar, but I would be flabbergasted if he claims to be an authority on the Ming novel. Cheers in any case, ch (talk) 03:03, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
 * If we date these works based on their first published version, then Dante's Divine Comedy would be considered a late 15th-century book? Since there is no surviving original manuscript and the earliest published version came from 1472.  Water Margin is commonly attributed to  Shi Nai'an.  Is he the actual author?  We don't know, thus the complex textual history of the novel is addressed below. --Sevilledade (talk) 10:13, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Ruan brothers redirects here and is not mentioned
Ruan brothers is a redirect to Water Margin, albeit not being mentioned there and being an English musical duo. -- Gohnarch░ 21:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Title
The Chinese title is rendered as "Water Margin", but what is it supposed to mean? Is it actually idiomatic English? 89.64.70.4 (talk) 23:01, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi
Hi 116.110.42.153 (talk) 08:50, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

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This article has been initiated by [mailto:david@haberlah David Haberlah] 06/2005.

All information on the Manasir supplied by the user David Haberlah results from his field research in Dar al-Manasir in February and March 2005 as a member of the team of Humboldt University Nubian Expedition (H.U.N.E.). H.U.N.E. is headed by the directors Prof. Dr. CLAUDIA NÄSER and Prof. Dr. FRANK KAMMERZELL of the Seminar of Northeast African Archaeology and Cultural Studies primarily responsible for conducting salvage archaeology on the islands of Shiri, Sherari, Sur and Us, and the left bank of the Nile between Salamat and Gebel Musa. In addition H.U.N.E. decided to launch a subproject dealing with the culture of the native Manasir.

This ethnographical research has been financed by the "Programm Kulturerhalt" of the German Department of Foreign Affairs as a contribution to the preservation of the culture of the Manasir. All Manasir living in their homeland Dar al-Manasir are going to be relocated as a result of the flooding of the Hamdab High Dam in the coming years. There is an urgent need for further anthropological research and programs of cultural preservation. The initial author David Haberlah hopes that the nature of Wikipedia will attract both researchers and Manasir to expand the freely available information and knowledge about the Manasir tribe.

I would like to encourage everybody to list academic articles concerning Dar al-Manasir that cannot be published on the Internet here. A copy of new articles should be submitted to the Sudanese National Library to be available to the Sudanese public. In case that you can provide material about the Manasir that does not suit the requirements of Wikipedia, Wikisource or Wikimedia please contact [mailto:david@haberlah H.U.N.E.], who is running the Hompage of Dar al-Manasir.

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Strathcona Park (Ottawa)

Strathcona Park is a large park in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. It lies on the west bank of the Rideau River and marks the eastern edge of the Sandy Hill neighbourhood.

The area of the park was originally the swampy floodplain of the river and impossible to build on. The site first became home of the Dominion Rifle Range, where soldiers had trained before departing for the Second Boer War. That history is preserved in the name of Range Road, which runs along the west of the park. The area was turned into a park by the Ottawa Improvement Commission between 1904 and 1907. It was named after Lord Strathcona, a Canadian businessman and politician who had financed his own regiment in the war.

The most prominent feature of the 15 acre park is the fountain atop the hill; it was donated by Lord Strathcona in 1909 and sculpted by French artist, Mathurin Moreau. The four upright figures symbolize the four continents (Europe, Asia, Africa, America), which was a commonly used artistic metaphor until the 19th Century. A twin fountain stands in downtown Buenos Aires.

The park's original design was a classic example of English public park design. It contained a pair of small ponds, gazebos, and Ottawa's first golf course. In the 1940s, the ponds were filled in because of their expense and replaced with a wading pool. A baseball diamond was constructed at the southern end of the park in the 1920s and, for many years, was Ottawa's main venue for the sport.

The banks of the Rideau were once a popular swimming area, but the perception of pollution now make that unpopular. During the summer, the water level is low enough to ford the river and cross to Riverain Park in Vanier, but the Adàwe Crossing bridge, opened in December 2015, now makes fording the river unnecessary. Just to the south of Strathcona Park is Dutchy's Hole Park and Robinson Field. In the winter, the park, with its large hill at the northern end, is a popular site for tobogganing and making snowboard jumps.

The park remained under the control of the OIC successor agency the National Capital Commission until 1987, when it did not renew its lease with the city. Since then, the park has been managed by the municipality. In the early 1990s, the park was refurbished by the city. One of the most noted additions was the play structure designed by artist Stephen Brathwaite, who designed a structure to look like ruins and was inspired by Mackenzie King's ruin garden at Kingsmere. The structure was assembled out of blocks of stone that had been part of the Parliament buildings, the Chateau Laurier, and other prominent Ottawa structures.

Since 1986, the park has been home to Odyssey Theatre, a professional company that presents open-air plays each summer on a stage at the northeast corner of the park. Odyssey Theatre's unique performances of classical plays and original creations are inspired by the Italian commedia dell'arte and incorporate international forms of puppetry, clowning, and dance-theatre.

In July 2014, the city began construction of a pedestrian and cyclist bridge across the Rideau River to connect the Rideau River Eastern Pathway at Donald Street with Strathcona Park and Somerset Street East.

The park is surrounded by a series of large homes that once housed the elite of Ottawa. Most are now embassies, and the area around the park is often called Ottawa's Embassy Row. Perched above the park is the Russian embassy, formerly the Soviet Union embassy.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew economos

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE. JeremyA 14:44, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Andrew economos
Not notable. Classic vanity capitalization problem. 18 Google hits for ("Andrew economos" music selector), 11 of which are from his own companies' websites. --Xcali 18:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn vanity. --Etacar11 01:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Google hits for ("andrew economos" -football) are 119. (Apparently there is a football player by the same name) A spelling error should not determine the validity of an article. 207.67.132.209 02:11, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete vanity. JamesBurns 05:46, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete He may be notable, but I don't see proof in the article. Vegaswikian 06:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

From the WP:BIO Guidelines: "Painters, sculptors, architects, engineers, and other professionals whose work is recognized as exceptional and likely to become a part of the enduring historical record of that field."

Dr. Economos clearly fits in this descritpion. The radio programming field, while narrow, has a large impact on society. Radio programmers decides what gets airplay, and radio has great influence in popular culture. Andrew Economos is a widely recognized figure as an innovator in the field.

Does somebody have to be a member of popular culture (baseball star or politician) to be included in Wikipedia ? I hope not! I believe Dr. Economos is notabale, although certainly not a pop culture figure ! The purpose of an Encyclopedia is to  provide information on important and interesting subjects. Many people, IMHO are interested in mass media, broadcasting, radio and music. Music scheduling by computer was pioneered by Dr. Economos. 207.67.132.209

PS, as far as vanity goes, I am *not* Dr. Economos :-) 207.67.132.210 00:43, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.  Please do not edit this page .


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Mainline Publications

Mainline Publications, also called Mainline Comics, was a short-lived, 1950s American comic book publisher established and owned by Jack Kirby and Joe Simon.

Foundation
With the 1950s backlash against comics, led by the psychiatrist Fredric Wertham, and propagated during the televised debates about comics leading to juvenile delinquency, as part of the Kefauver hearings, several publishing houses folded. This caused a problem for the printers. As Joe Simon detailed, "Comic book publishers were dropping out of the business in wholesale numbers. The printers grew frantic. It was a necessity of their business that the presses keep running. When the presses were silent, printing companies still had to pay overhead, so they were more than willing to back a new comics organization if it showed promise."

To serve as business manager for their Mainline Publications, Inc., they brought in Crestwood Publications office manager Nevin Fidler, who knew the mechanics of distributors and other necessary vendors, offering him a piece of the company. While keeping their hand in at Crestwood to fulfill their contract, Simon and Kirby invested their savings in their new company, working with veteran paper and printing broker George Dougherty, Jr. The two had long wanted to self-publish, and they further wished to create comics for the adults of the 1950s who had read comics as children in the 1940s.

As Simon recalled, "The distributor we chose was Leader News, the company that distributed Bill Gaines' EC Comics. As was the custom the distributor advanced the publisher 25 percent of the total income on a 100 percent sale. This advance was paid when the books were shipped from the printer to local wholesalers around the country. We assigned that money to the printer, who would then pay the engraver. ... Since a comic book would usually sell a minimum of 30 percent, everybody was happy. Mainline would be required to invest in only the editorial material, consisting of the art, lettering and scripts."

They set up shop in late 1953 or early 1954, subletting space from their friend Al Harvey's Harvey Publications at 1860 Broadway. Mainline published four titles: the Western Bullseye: Western Scout; the war comic Foxhole, since EC Comics and Atlas Comics were having success with war comics, but Mainline's was promoted as being "written and drawn by actual veterans"; In Love, as their earlier romance comic Young Love was still being widely imitated; and the crime comic Police Trap, which claimed to be based on genuine accounts by law-enforcement officials.

Controversy
Despite Mainline's dissimilarity to the beleaguered EC and other companies then under constant attack, copies of Bullseye and Foxhole were reportedly used as exhibits by Wertham in the Senate hearings against comics, and seen by millions through the hearings' nationwide television coverage.

In an attempt to save on the cost of original artwork for a story in Crestwood's Young Love, Simon recycled an earlier Crestwood story by providing a new story and title to fit the existing art. This was spotted by a Crestwood employee, and legal advice taken over possible repercussions. Crestwood "took up the matter with their attorney [who] informed Crestwood that there was nothing in the contract that specified what kind of book we were obliged to turn in — as long as we turned in a book on schedule. That didn't satisfy the publishers, who naturally turned more hostile. They continued to hold off paying us while we grew increasingly desperate." In response, Simon and Kirby arranged in November 1954 to audit Crestwood, leading to a meeting between, on one side, Simon, Kirby, their accountant Bernard Gwirtzman and the attorney Gwirtzman chose, Morris Eisenstein; and on the other Crestwood publishers Teddy Epstein and Paul Bleier as well as general manager M. R. Reese.

Eisenstein demanded monies owed his clients by "Crestwood, Feature Publications, and Headline Publications, among others," entailing "advances, royalties, and other monies for Fighting American, Young Brides, Black Magic, Young Love, and Young Romance." Epstein countered that all monies had been paid, and no royalties withheld, so Gwirtzman clarified that the claimed funds derived largely from overseas sales, and that over the previous seven years the total was around $130,000. Crestwood's attorney responded that the company could not pay that much, and, were it to go to court, "would simply close down." Offered a $10,000 settlement and the recently delayed payments, Simon and Kirby returned to working on Mainline, but under increasingly strained circumstances. Even the Simon/Kirby relationship was now fraught, the two "barely [speaking] while working in the same room."

Collapse
With the continuing attacks by Wertham, Senator Estes Kefauver, and others, publishers continued to fold "and the number of comics published dropped from 650 to 250." Carmine Infantino, a friend of Kirby's who worked for National Comics, the future DC Comics, recalled that National publisher Jack Liebowitz, Atlas Comics publisher Martin Goodman, "and the people from Archie [ MLJ Comics ], got together and created the Comics Code, which promised parents they would have no more blood and stuff like that." The advent of the Code effectively gutted EC Comics and threatened the comics industry generally. Distributor Leader News "no longer had enough money to advance to small companies like Mainline", and with its implosion brought about the end of Simon and Kirby's company in late 1956.

The unpublished materials for Mainline's titles were sold to Charlton Comics, which published them and, in some cases, continued the titles under new names. With the demise of Mainline, the longstanding partnership between Simon and Kirby also ended, although they would collaborate on a few more comics. Simon left comics for a time to take up a role in advertising, and Kirby returned to National Comics, taking with him, with Simon's blessing, "the final project of the Simon & Kirby team", Challengers of the Unknown, co-created with writers Dick and Dave Wood. The non-superpowered adventuring quartet appeared in National's Showcase #6 (Feb. 1957) and eventually in its own series.

Titles
Mainline published four titles:
 * Bullseye: Western Scout (Western), #1-5. Charlton Comics published #6-7
 * Foxhole (war), #1-4. Charlton Comics published #5-7
 * In Love (romance), #1-4. Charlton Comics published #5-6, then renamed it I Love You
 * Police Trap (crime),  #1-4. Charlton Comics published #5-6

title: Mainline Publications


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User talk:Silversmith/Archive 3

 Hello, please be nice! Previous discussions:Archive 1, Archive 2

New talk
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my RFA
Hi Silversmith, thank you for your vote of confidence on my recent successful RFA, it was much appreciated. I will work to demonstrate that your trust was well-placed. Fawcett5 19:38, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support
Thank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_ >|< 08:01, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Lone wolf terrorist/odd behaviour of history
I agree with your assessment, and I've moved the detail to Independent terrorist actor. Regarding the history strangeness, I've noticed that a lot; I edit a page, and the previous edit disappears from history. I find that if I wait a few minutes (10-20) the history usually fixes itself. The other day I moved a page, and the whole history disappeared for at least 1/2 hour, which was scary. And if you want to see something really strange, look at the history of Talk:Germany; no matter what you do, the May 10 edit by Heimdal is always the second last edit. I think it all has to do with the load on the network of machines storing and synchronizing this information; one day they'll sort it all out (I hope). Cheers. Jayjg (talk) 21:30, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Theo RFA
Hi Erin: Thank you for supporting my RFA. It is particularly pleasing to be supported by someone that I admire. --Theo (Talk) 14:14, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

And thank you, too, for the lovely flower. You really are a ray of light! --Theo (Talk) 15:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Nice to see you
On commons. I never told or even met you on wikipedias, but following your name I'm happy to meet your page and the yellow last one.

Thank you to be

Yug 01:35, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi Silversmith, I know this is kind of overdue, but I want to thank you for your support vote on my RFA. Thanks to you and everyone else who voted support, I am now an admin, and I have been using my powers to further Wikipedia. Thank you for granting me this opportunity! Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 23:19, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

thank you from uwe
hallo Erin - thank you for promoting my most beloved magic critter. I like your userpage a lot (and your contributions) - finally someone with a real name and a face - you seem to be a very interesting person, if I would still be young I would visit your. Could you maybe get some text and images of krill to the Spain namespace, just a little would be a fine starter - good luck to you (I did some silverwork too) - Uwe Kils 15:09, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

Wuv oo
Be good while I'm out. ;) — Chameleon 15:30, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmphy. I'm never good, you know that. ;) -- Silversmith Hewwo 16:11, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

krill edits
thank you, Erin - how did you get your signature so nice silver? I want to do that too Uwe Kils 17:04, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * that was quick - it works, thanks for the code [[User:Kils| Uwe Kils communicate ]] 20:47, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

 * small error [[User:Kils| Uwe Kils communicate ]] 20:54, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * is that better? [[User:Kils| Uwe Kils communicate ]]]] 21:24, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * thanks again - is that better? [[User:Kils| Uwe Kils communicate ]] 22:12, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * another try Uwe Kils [[User Talk:Kils|talk ]] 23:08, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * another test [[User:Silversmith| Silversmith Hewwo ]] 23:11, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * I put in this Uwe Kils  communicate [[User:Kils| Uwe Kils  communicate ]] 23:15, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * you are up late! Uwe Kils  communicate 00:29, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * good night and thank you for your many help Uwe Kils  communicate 00:37, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

Hi
First things, thanks for the note on the camellia flower. Yeah I'm sorry about the double ups on the images - but someone not long ago asked me to upload my photos to the commons so that everyone could easily access them, and I started doing just that and didn't think to replace the old en.wikipedia ones. I'll send you my email, but first you have to send my yours - the link you gave doesn't work for me. --Fir0002 10:03, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Support template
Hi Erin: I saw your new Support template and think it very attractive. Sadly, however, I feel that it is another step in a trend to make RFA a quasi-democratic vote. As things stand we claim that the process is about consensus building. This was entirely true when the process first began: as an online discussion. Then someone decided that it would be clearer if support, oppose, and comment were separated. This reduced the sense of debate and increased the sense of tallying; an impression that was further increased by the introduction of the tally summary (and, briefly, tally boxes). Consensus is the heart of wiki and enough people already conflate this with voting and with polling. Your lovely symbol only increases the sense of putting a cross on a ballot paper. Please reconsider its use.—Theo (Talk) 14:33, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You really are the most extraordinarily pleasant person. Thank you for your tolerance.—Theo (Talk) 15:55, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for supporting me on my RfA. It's always nice to get some positive feedback. I hope I can put my new abilities to some good use. -- grm_wnr Esc  17:44, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Adminship JoJan
Thanks for your support. And as a bonus, I only now realize that one of my uploaded pictures is a featured picture candidate. JoJan 17:52, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

response from London
Uwe wants to share this with you (from his talk page):

Hello Kils
Just would like to state that i have very much enjoyed being involved in a project of this nature. To see the speed of co-operation between various people was (Uwe, Lupo and Salleman and all others) fantastic. It was a complete buzz to go off researching about a scientific subject and coming to some understanding and appreciation of a creature that i would have no knowledge or interest in otherwise. I would like to say that it takes a damn good teacher to get others interested in what they teach and i for one, if only in a rudimentary and general way have found the subject of Krill and sorrounding issues of ecology and environment fascinating. I think that says a lot about your willingness to let others participate in something which you obviously have great knowledge in and could easily have been a lot less humble with. At some point i will put up some informtion on my home page so at least people know a little more about me. Am going to try to extend the article on Ice-algae so any info you may have would be good. I hope the article on Antartic Krill gets featured as i think it is now very good.

Wikiversity sounds like a good idea but will need more time to go through the proposal (not too sure what help i could be).

Once again thanks Uwe! Yakuzai 22:50, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

that feels good

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Antarctic_krill

did you see who gave the picture of the day? take care Uwe Kils   23:58, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

My RFA
Thank you for supporting my RFA. Guettarda 00:24, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

South Australian English
Please read the talk page and comment before making such a unilateral change. The fact that it causes so much discussion suggests there is a need for an article, if only to debunk the myths retold on the talk page (and elsewhere on the internet). If you do not comment on the talk page I will assume I have your approval to revert. Thanks.Grant65 (Talk) 10:34, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

Featured picture candidate African daisy
You state that this Osteospermum fruticosum. But in my opinion, this is a cultivar Osteospermum 'Pink Whirls'. This cultivar has pinkish-purple flowers with 'spooned' petals; reverse is purple to lavender-blue; disk is blue. See this site 3] (http://www.mediterraneangardensociety.org/plants/Osteospermum.cultivars.html)]. I happen to have this plant in my garden. I'll make a few photos and I'll upload them in the Commons. In case you want to write the article, there is already an article (actually a stub) on [[Osteospermum, dealing with Osteospermum fruticosum. Osteospermum should have its own article (cultivars included), while African marigold (O. fruticosum) should be separated into its own article. Do you agree ? JoJan 15:22, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * No need any more to write an article on Osteospermum. I've made start, added the FP and I'll finish it in the next few days, after I've done some extra research. JoJan 08:18, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi
You wrote "Hi, I just noticed we are the same lovely shade of silver. Nice to meet you" -- I have been changing colors and styles every couple of weeks as I experiment with the codes. Thanks for the welcome. NoSeptember           12:28, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * hallo NoSeptember! we three have the fine silver tone (Silversmith taught me!) Nice to meet you - Uwe Kils  [[Image:heringmini.jpg]] 13:08, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Commons:
Hope this was useful. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  14:49, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) I've seen you around FPC, so you're not new to me. :). In Commons, nominations are usually self-nominations and lack the long debates as it goes on here. It laid-back.
 * 2) Anyone can vote for you.
 * 3) The criteria for admin status is 1) a min of 100 edits in commons 2) Two months of contrib to any wiki 3) A user page in commons
 * 4) You need a min of 4 votes and a 75% majority to gain admin status in commons.

Hi Erin: I am on my way to Commons now.—Theo (Talk) 21:19, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Poll at Talk:Terrorism
I've put together a little poll at Talk:Terrorism regarding the "lone wolf" section. Your input would be appreciated. Thx. Jayjg (talk) 19:48, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

ack
hewwo to you too. Thanks for the friendly reminder and, more importantly, thanks for changing your vote. As you will have seen with a few months ago with boyfwiend, the RfA process has became inretrievably politicized, and that is a real shame. I am glad I don't have to go through it now; god knows what would crawl out of the woodwork to complain about some ill-chosen word on an obscure talk page. Anyway, BYT deserves another chance over a few months, as does your young lizard friend. -- Viajero | Talk 15:17, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Thanks for your support for my adminship. I hope I live up to your estimation. Cheers, -Willmcw June 28, 2005 18:45 (UTC)

FPC
Congratulations on your first FP and all support votes! Sango 123  July 4, 2005 19:26 (UTC)

Mind Benders
Thank you for your submission to the pre-round of Mind Benders! The voting has now begun, and you are welcome to submit one vote! In addition, why not try round one, which is now open? Round one consists of many challenging (I hope) problems that are lots of WikiFun! Hope to see you there! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 15:43, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

our krill on mainpage today
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/July_17%2C_2005 thanks for your help - can your friend maybe add some on the Spanish page, please hallo across the ocean Uwe Kils   02:07, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

Mind Benders
Hello,. Thank you for submitting an entry to the pre-round and/or participating in round one of WP:MIND. I sincerly hope you enjoyed it. Round Two, which I have made a bit more difficult than round one, will open at approximately 2 PM EST, Sunday, July 24. In addition, the voting for pre-round has also been extended until the end of round two. I hope to see you at Round Two, so prepare for some WikIFun!!! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 17:11, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Commons:Administrators RFA
Hi Erin,

I suspect you might be away travelling at the moment, but if not can you take a look at Commons:Commons:Administrators. The voting there appears to be almost inactive, and given that the window for nominations is 7 days, it could probably benefit from a little more attention. -- Solipsist 06:46, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Hiya
To repost from the pics' site: Awww, pretty! No doubt you'll be able to support the two of you in France by being a body double for Audrey Tautou (unless she gave up and moved to Hollywood...) In any case, I was curious if you had any advice or sources for working in iron - I'd like to make a blackened cast iron ring with gold inlay. Apparently there are ways to darken silver, too - is that the easier and more practical choice? Thanks - Jowfair 7 August 2005

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List of school districts in Minnesota

This is a complete list of school districts in the State of Minnesota.

Aitkin County

 * Aitkin Public School District (ISD #1)
 * Hill City Public School District (ISD #2)
 * McGregor School District (ISD #4)

Anoka County

 * Anoka-Hennepin Public School District (ISD #11)
 * Centennial Public School District (ISD #12)
 * Columbia Heights Public School District (ISD #13)
 * Fridley Public School District (ISD #14)
 * Saint Francis School District (ISD #15)
 * Spring Lake Park School District (ISD #16)

Becker County

 * Detroit Lakes Public School District (ISD #22)
 * Frazee-Vergas Public School District (ISD #23)
 * Lake Park-Audubon School District (ISD #24)
 * Pine Point School District (ISD #25)

Beltrami County

 * Bemidji Area Schools (ISD #31)
 * Blackduck Public School District (ISD #32)
 * Kelliher Public School District (ISD #36)
 * Red Lake School District (ISD #38)

Benton County

 * Foley Public School District (ISD #51)
 * Sauk Rapids School District (ISD #47)

Big Stone County

 * Clinton-Graceville-Beardsley School District (ISD #2888)
 * Ortonville School District (ISD #2903)

Blue Earth County

 * Lake Crystal-Wellcome Memorial School District (ISD #2071)
 * Mankato School District (ISD #77)
 * Maple River School District (ISD #2135)
 * Saint Clair School District (ISD #75)

Brown County

 * Comfrey Public School District (ISD #81)
 * New Ulm School District (ISD #88)
 * Sleepy Eye School District (ISD #84)
 * Springfield School District (ISD #85)

Carlton County

 * Barnum Public School District (ISD #91)
 * Carlton Public School District (ISD #93)
 * Cloquet Public School District (ISD #94)
 * Cromwell-Wright School District (ISD #95)
 * Esko Public School District (ISD #99)
 * Moose Lake School District (ISD #97)
 * Wrenshall School District (ISD #100)

Carver County

 * Central Public Schools (ISD #108)
 * Eastern Carver County Schools (ISD #112)
 * Waconia Public Schools (ISD #110)
 * Watertown-Mayer School District (ISD #111)

Cass County

 * Cass Lake-Bena School District (ISD #115)
 * Northland Community School District (ISD #118)
 * Pillager School District (ISD #116)
 * Pine River-Backus School District (ISD #2174)
 * Walker-Hackensack-Akeley School District (ISD #113)

Chippewa County

 * MACCRAY Public Schools (ISD #2180)
 * Montevideo School District (ISD #129)

Chisago County

 * Chisago Lakes School District (ISD #2144)
 * North Branch School District (ISD #138)
 * Rush City School District (ISD #139)

Clay County

 * Barnesville Public School District (ISD #146)
 * Dilworth-Glyndon-Felton School District (ISD #2164)
 * Hawley Public School District (ISD #150)
 * Moorhead School District (ISD #152)
 * Ulen-Hitterdal School District (ISD #914)

Clearwater County

 * Bagley Public School District (ISD #162)
 * Clearbrook-Gonvick School District (ISD #2311)

Cook County

 * Cook County School District (ISD #166)

Cottonwood County

 * Mountain Lake School District (ISD #173)
 * Westbrook-Walnut Grove School District (ISD #2898)
 * Windom School District (ISD #177)

Crow Wing County

 * Brainerd Public School District (ISD #181)
 * Crosby-Ironton Public School District (ISD #182)
 * Pequot Lakes School District (ISD #186)

Dakota County

 * Burnsville-Eagan-Savage School District (ISD #191)
 * Farmington Area Public Schools (ISD #192)
 * Hastings Public School District (ISD 200)
 * Intermediate School District 917
 * Inver Grove Heights School District (ISD 199)
 * Lakeville Independent School District 194
 * Randolph School District (ISD 195)
 * Rosemount-Apple Valley-Eagan School District (ISD #196)
 * South Saint Paul School District (Special School District #6)
 * West Saint Paul-Mendota Heights-Eagan School District (ISD #197)

Dodge County

 * Hayfield Public School District (ISD #203)
 * Kasson-Mantorville School District (ISD #204)
 * Triton School District (ISD #2125)

Douglas County

 * Alexandria Public School District (ISD #206)
 * Brandon-Evansville School District (ISD #2908)
 * Osakis School District (ISD #213)

Faribault County

 * Blue Earth Area Public School District (ISD #2860)
 * United South Central School District (ISD #2134)

Fillmore County

 * Fillmore Central School District (ISD #2198)
 * Kingsland School District (ISD #2137)
 * Lanesboro School District (ISD #229)
 * Mabel-Canton School District (ISD #238)
 * Rushford-Peterson School District (ISD #239)

Freeborn County

 * Albert Lea Public School District (ISD #241)
 * Alden-Conger Public School District (ISD #242)
 * Glenville-Emmons School District (ISD #2886)

Goodhue County

 * Cannon Falls Area Schools (ISD #252)
 * Goodhue School District (ISD #253)
 * Kenyon-Wanamingo School District (ISD #2172)
 * Pine Island School District (ISD #255)
 * Red Wing Public Schools (ISD #256)

Grant County

 * Ashby Public School District (ISD #261)
 * Herman-Norcross Public School District (ISD #264)
 * West Central Area Schools (ISD #2342)

Hennepin County

 * Bloomington Public School District (ISD #271)
 * Brooklyn Center School District (ISD #286)
 * Eden Prairie Public School District (ISD #272)
 * Edina Public Schools (ISD #273)
 * Hopkins Public Schools (ISD #270)
 * Intermediate School District 287
 * Minneapolis Public Schools (Special School District #1)
 * Minnetonka School District (ISD #276)
 * Orono School District (ISD #278)
 * Osseo School District (ISD #279)
 * Richfield Public Schools (ISD #280)
 * Robbinsdale Area Schools (ISD #281)
 * St. Anthony-New Brighton School District (ISD #282)
 * Saint Louis Park School District (ISD #283)
 * Wayzata Public Schools (ISD #284)
 * Westonka School District (ISD #277)

Houston County

 * Caledonia Public School District (ISD #299)
 * Houston Public Schools (ISD #294)
 * La Crescent-Hokah School District (ISD #300)
 * Spring Grove School District (ISD #297)

Hubbard County

 * Laporte School District (ISD #306)
 * Nevis School District (ISD #308)
 * Park Rapids School District (ISD #309)

Isanti County

 * Braham Public School District (ISD #314)
 * Cambridge-Isanti Public School District (ISD #911)

Itasca County

 * Deer River Public School District (ISD #317)
 * Grand Rapids School District - Independent School District 318
 * Greenway School District (ISD #316)
 * Nashwauk-Keewatin School District (ISD #319)

Jackson County

 * Heron Lake-Okabena Public School District (ISD #330)
 * Jackson County Central School District (ISD #2895)

Kanabec County

 * Mora School District (ISD #332)
 * Ogilvie School District (ISD #333)

Kandiyohi County

 * New London-Spicer School District (ISD #345)
 * Willmar School District (ISD #347)

Kittson County

 * Kittson Central School District (ISD #2171)
 * Lancaster School District (ISD #356)
 * Tri-County School District (ISD #2358)

Koochiching County

 * International Falls School District (ISD #361)
 * Littlefork-Big Falls School District (ISD #362)
 * South Koochiching School District (ISD #363)

Lac qui Parle County

 * Dawson-Boyd Public School District (ISD #378)
 * Lac qui Parle Valley School District (ISD #2853)

Lake County

 * Lake Superior School District (ISD #381)

Lake of the Woods County

 * Lake of the Woods School District (ISD #390)

Le Sueur County

 * Cleveland Public School District (ISD #391)
 * Le Sueur-Henderson School District (ISD #397)
 * Tri-City United School District (ISD #2905)
 * Waterville-Elysian-Morristown School District (ISD #2143)

Lincoln County

 * Hendricks Public School District (ISD #402)
 * Ivanhoe Public School District (ISD #403)
 * Lake Benton School District (ISD #404)
 * Russell Tyler Ruthton School District (ISD #2902)

Lyon County

 * Lakeview School District (ISD #2167)
 * Lynd School District (ISD #415)
 * Marshall School District (ISD #413)
 * Minneota School District (ISD #414)
 * Tracy School District (ISD #2904)

Mahnomen County

 * Mahnomen School District (ISD #432)
 * Waubun-Ogema-White Earth School District (ISD #435)

Marshall County

 * Grygla School District (ISD #447)
 * Marshall County Central School District (ISD #441)
 * Stephen-Argyle School District (ISD #2856)
 * Warren-Alvarado-Oslo School District (ISD #2176)

Martin County

 * Fairmont Area School District (ISD #2752)
 * Granada Huntley-East Chain School District (ISD #2536)
 * Martin County West School District (ISD #2448)
 * Truman School District (ISD #458)

McLeod County

 * Glencoe-Silver Lake School District (ISD #2859)
 * Hutchinson Public School District (ISD #423)
 * Lester Prairie School District (ISD #424)

Meeker County

 * Atwater-Cosmos-Grove-City School District (ISD #2396)
 * Eden Valley-Watkins School District (ISD #463)
 * Litchfield School District (ISD #465)

Mille Lacs County

 * Isle Public School District (ISD #473)
 * Milaca School District (ISD #912)
 * Onamia School District (ISD #480)
 * Princeton School District (ISD #477)

Morrison County

 * Little Falls School District (ISD #482)
 * Pierz School District (ISD #484)
 * Royalton School District (ISD #485)
 * Swanville School District (ISD #486)
 * Upsala School District (ISD #487)

Mower County

 * Austin Public School District (ISD #492)
 * Grand Meadow School District (ISD #495)
 * Leroy-Ostrander School District (ISD #499)
 * Lyle School District (ISD #497)
 * Southland School District (ISD #500)

Murray County

 * Fulda Public School District (ISD #505)
 * Murray County Central School District (ISD #2169)

Nicollet County

 * Nicollet School District (ISD #507)
 * Saint Peter School District (ISD #508)

Nobles County

 * Adrian Public School District (ISD #511)
 * Ellsworth Public School District (ISD #514)
 * Round Lake-Brewster School District (ISD #2907)
 * Worthington School District (ISD #518)

Norman County

 * Ada-Borup-West Public School District (ISD #2910)
 * Norman County East School District (ISD #2215)

Olmsted County

 * Byron Public School District (ISD #531)
 * Chatfield School District (ISD #227)
 * Dover-Eyota Public School District (ISD #533)
 * Rochester School District (ISD #535)
 * Stewartville School District (ISD #534)

Otter Tail County

 * Battle Lake Public School District (ISD #542)
 * Fergus Falls Public School District (ISD #544)
 * Henning Public School District (ISD #545)
 * New York Mills School District (ISD #553)
 * Parkers Prairie School District (ISD #547)
 * Pelican Rapids School District (ISD #548)
 * Perham-Dent School District (ISD #549)
 * Underwood School District (ISD #550)

Pennington County

 * Goodridge School District (ISD #561)
 * Thief River Falls School District (ISD #564)

Pine County

 * East Central School District (ISD #2580)
 * Hinckley-Finlayson Public School District (ISD #2165)
 * Pine City School District (ISD #578)
 * Willow River School District (ISD #577)

Pipestone County

 * Edgerton Public School District (ISD #581)
 * Pipestone Area School District (ISD #2689)

Polk County

 * Climax-Shelly Public School (ISD #592)
 * Crookston Public School District (ISD #593)
 * East Grand Forks Public School District (ISD #595)
 * Fertile-Beltrami School District (ISD #599)
 * Fisher Public School District (ISD #600)
 * Fosston Public School District (ISD #601)
 * Win-E-Mac School District (ISD #2609)

Pope County

 * Minnewaska School District (ISD #2149)

Ramsey County

 * Mounds View School District (ISD #621)
 * North Saint Paul-Maplewood Oakdale School District (ISD #622)
 * Northeast Metro 916 Intermediate School District
 * Roseville Area Schools (ISD #623)
 * Saint Paul Public Schools (ISD #625)
 * White Bear Lake Area School District (ISD #624)

Red Lake County

 * Red Lake County Central School District (ISD #2906)
 * Red Lake Falls School District (ISD #630)

Redwood County

 * Cedar Mountain School District (ISD #2754)
 * Milroy School District (ISD #635)
 * Red Rock Central School District (ISD #2884)
 * Redwood Valley Area School District (ISD #2897)
 * Wabasso School District (ISD #640)

Renville County

 * Bird Island-Olivia-Lake Lillian Public School District (ISD #2534)
 * Buffalo Lake-Hector-Stewart Public School District (ISD #2159)
 * Renville County West School District (ISD #2890)

Rice County

 * Faribault Public School District (ISD #656)
 * Northfield School District (ISD #659)

Rock County

 * Hills-Beaver Creek Public School District (ISD #671)
 * Luverne School District (ISD #2184)

Roseau County

 * Badger Public School District (ISD #676)
 * Greenbush-Middle River School District (ISD #2683)
 * Roseau School District (ISD #682)
 * Warroad School District (ISD #690)

Saint Louis County

 * Chisholm Public School District (ISD #695)
 * Duluth Public Schools (ISD #709)
 * Ely Public School District (ISD #696)
 * Floodwood Public School District (ISD #698)
 * Hermantown Public School District (ISD #700)
 * Hibbing Public School District (ISD #701)
 * Mesabi East School District (ISD #2711)
 * Mountain Iron-Buhl School District (ISD #712)
 * Proctor School District (ISD #704)
 * Rock Ridge Public Schools (ISD #2909)
 * Saint Louis County School District (ISD #2142)

Scott County

 * Belle Plaine Public School District (ISD #716)
 * Jordan School District (ISD #717)
 * New Prague Area School District (ISD #721)
 * Prior Lake-Savage School District (ISD #719)
 * Shakopee School District (ISD #720)
 * SouthWest Metro Intermediate District

Sherburne County

 * Becker Public School District (ISD #726)
 * Big Lake Public School District (ISD #727)
 * Independent School District 728

Sibley County

 * Gibbon Fairfax Winthrop School District (ISD #2365)
 * Sibley East Public Schools (ISD #2310)

Stearns County

 * Albany Public School District (ISD #745)
 * Belgrade-Brooten-Elrosa Public School District (ISD #2364)
 * Holdingford Public School District (ISD #738)
 * Kimball Public School District (ISD #739)
 * Melrose School District (ISD #740)
 * Paynesville School District (ISD #741)
 * Rocori School District (ISD #750)
 * Saint Cloud School District (ISD #742)
 * Sartell-St. Stephen School District (ISD #748)
 * Sauk Centre School District (ISD #743)
 * West Central Area Schools (ISD #2342)

Steele County

 * Blooming Prairie Public School District (ISD #756)
 * Medford School District (ISD #763)
 * Owatonna School District (ISD #761)

Stevens County

 * Chokio-Alberta Public School District (ISD #771)
 * Hancock Public School District (ISD #768)
 * Morris School District (ISD #2769)

Swift County

 * Benson Public School District (ISD #777)
 * Kerkhoven-Murdock-Sunburg School District (ISD #775)

Todd County

 * Bertha-Hewitt Public School District (ISD #786)
 * Browerville Public School District (ISD #787)
 * Long Prairie-Grey Eagle School District (ISD #2753)
 * Staples-Motley School District (ISD #2170)

Traverse County

 * Browns Valley Public School District (ISD #801)
 * Wheaton Area School School District (ISD #803)

Wabasha County

 * Lake City School District (ISD #813)
 * Plainview Elgin Millville School District (ISD #2899)
 * Wabasha-Kellogg School District (ISD #811)
 * Zumbrota-Mazeppa School District (ISD #2805)

Wadena County

 * Menahga School District (ISD #821)
 * Sebeka School District (ISD #820)
 * Verndale School District (ISD #818)
 * Wadena-Deer Creek School District (ISD #2155)

Waseca County

 * Janesville-Waldorf-Pemberton School District (ISD #2835)
 * New Richland Hartland Ellendale Geneva School District (ISD #2168)
 * Waseca School District (ISD #829)

Washington County

 * Forest Lake Public School District (ISD #831)
 * Mahtomedi School District (ISD #832)
 * South Washington County School District (ISD #833)
 * Stillwater School District (ISD (#834)

Watonwan County

 * Butterfield Public School District (ISD #836)
 * Madelia School District (ISD #837)
 * Saint James School District (ISD #840)

Wilkin County

 * Breckenridge Public School District (ISD #846)
 * Campbell-Tintah Public School District (ISD #852)
 * Rothsay School District (ISD #850)

Winona County

 * Lewiston-Altura School District (ISD #857)
 * Saint Charles School District (ISD #858)
 * Winona Independent School District (ISD #861)

Wright County

 * Annandale Public School District (ISD #876)
 * Buffalo-Hanover-Montrose Schools (ISD #877)
 * Dassel-Cokato Public School District (ISD #466)
 * Delano Public School District (ISD #879)
 * Howard Lake-Waverly-Winsted Public School District (ISD #2687)
 * Maple Lake School District (ISD #881)
 * Monticello School District (ISD #882)
 * Rockford Area Schools (ISD #883)
 * Saint Michael-Albertville School District (ISD #885)

Yellow Medicine County

 * Canby Public School District (ISD #891)
 * Yellow Medicine East School District (ISD #2190)

title: List of school districts in Minnesota