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Notre Dame Catholic Secondary School (Burlington)

Notre Dame Catholic Secondary School is a coeducational Catholic high school in Burlington, Ontario Canada. It was founded in 1989 by the Halton Catholic District School Board and enrols students from the 9th to 12th grades. However, many grade 12 graduates return for an optional 5th year of secondary school.

Notre Dame is home to Extended French and 5 Specialist High Skills Major (SHSM) programs in Business Leadership, Green Industries, Computer Engineering, Culinary Arts, and Manufacturing. It is also a hub for STEAM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Arts, and Mathematics). Its students compete annually in mock trials, model UN, School REACH, Euclid Math, Halton Skills, and many more local and provincial academic events. Notre Dame promotes and supports all post-secondary pathways—university, college, apprenticeship, and workplace.

The school community hosts an annual Arts Night, School Play, Business Leadership Conference, and most recently a STEAM Conference. There are plenty of clubs and activities for students to participate in as well as Student Council, Prefect, Physical Education Leadership, Business Leadership, and STEAM sponsored events. Students are also supported academically with after-school math help, a literacy course to assist with preparations for the OSSLT (Ontario Secondary School Literacy Test), credit rescue, and the L2L (Licence to Learn) student, peer tutoring initiative.

Equity and inclusion and social justice programs include Best Buddies, MIH (Make it Happen), the annual Angel Campaign, Halton Food For Thought Breakfast Program, May-Giving, PINK Day in support of the Terry Fox Foundation, the ECO squad, the Social Justice student activists, and Irish Cares.

Health and wellness, bullying prevention and intervention, faith formation, parent engagement, student voice, social work, child and youth counselling, and an active Catholic School Council of parents are also a large part of the Notre Dame ethos.

School Population
Notre Dame’s enrolment has experienced a renewal since September 2017, increasing in size from the mid 900s to just over 1,100 students in 2019-20. It receives most of its students from local elementary schools including St. Gabriel, St. Timothy, St. Mark, and Canadian Martyrs.

Notre Dame, like all publicly funded Catholic schools in Ontario, also accepts non-Catholics into the school; however, they are expected to take part in the religious activities and religious classes.

The Catholic school's parishes are St. Gabriel and St. Paul the Apostle. It belongs to the Diocese of Hamilton, under His Excellency Bishop Crosby.

Athletics
Notre Dame competes in the Halton Catholic Athletic Association (HCAA). The HCAA is 1 of 3 athletic associations under the Golden Horseshoe Athletic Conference (GHAC), which in turn is itself 1 of 18 regional associations under the Ontario Federation of School Athletic Associations (OFSAA).

Over the past several years, a few teams have placed in the top three at OFSAA (the Ontario Provincial Championships), including the cross-country team, field hockey team, varsity girls' ice hockey team, swim team, and girls' soccer team, lacrosse team, girls’ rugby team, and track and field team. The girls' basketball team were OFSAA champions in 2016 and bronze medalists in 2017. The girls soccer team were OFSAA champions in 2019.

The current 2019-20 school year continues to build on the school’s athletic resurgence with HCAA championship victories in senior field hockey, junior football, boys and girls swim teams and varsity girls’ hockey team. The girls varsity hockey team are also GHAC champions, moving onto OFSAA. The swim team left OFSAA with 1 gold and 1 silver medal.

There is an annual athletic banquet held in mid June which honours the MVPs and best athletes of the year from every sport and grade. Approximately 500 students, parents and staff attend the event, which is well known throughout the school for its video montage commemorating the year’s athletic achievements.

Notre Dame also offers the annual March Madness Basketball Camp and Summer Sports Camp (July) for elementary aged students, grades 1-8. The camps are open to students in both the Catholic and Public school systems.

Kilt Krew
Notre Dame has a group of male senior students referred to as "The Kilt Krew". They are a group that attends many sporting events that Notre Dame is involved in, to encourage students to cheer on the team. They are led by a student dubbed "Speedo Man" who can often be seen running across the field in a green speedo at half-time or pre-game. A new "Speedo Man" is generally selected every year by the previous years Speedo Man.

Sports, The Arts and School Clubs
Sports Teams

The Arts, Clubs and Co-Curricular Activities Source:
 * Anime Club
 * AP French Language Exam Prep
 * Art Club
 * Arts Night and Buskerfest
 * HFFT Breakfast Program
 * Black History Month
 * Business Leadership Conference
 * Business Leadership Shamrock Shop
 * Careers Day Fair
 * CATHOLIC EDUCATION WEEK
 * Chess Club
 * Climate Change Conference - STEAM
 * Cooperative Education
 * Culture of Life
 * DECA Notre Dame Chapter
 * DELF Language Certification
 * Drama Club
 * Environmental Club
 * Fishing Club
 * Health and Wellness Conference - STEAM
 * Health and Wellness Week
 * Here Come the Irish Pathways Excursions
 * Holocaust Memorial
 * InsideND Electronic Newspaper monthly publication
 * International Women’s Conference
 * Knights of Columbus BBQ and Open House
 * Math Help
 * Math Contests (CEMC)
 * Mental Health Awareness Action Team
 * Make It Happen (MIH)
 * Model UN
 * Licence to Learn (L2L) Peer Tutoring
 * Men as Career Coaches - HIEC
 * Mock Trials
 * Outdoor Education Algonquin Excursion
 * Photography
 * Prefect Program
 * School REACH Team
 * Religious Retreats
 * Remembrance Day Commemoration
 * School Electronic Newspaper (InsideND)
 * School Play
 * Social Justice Activists
 * SHSM Programs
 * STEAM Club and Leadership Initiatives
 * Student Athletic Association (SAA)
 * Student Council
 * Student Senate
 * Yearbook Course and Club
 * Yellow Bench Friendship Campaign - Raising Awareness about Youth Mental Health
 * Waterloo University Electric Vehicle Challenge
 * Weight-Training
 * Women as Career Coaches - HIEC

Fundraising Events/ Programs
 * Angel Campaign (Christmas Season)
 * Buckets
 * Blue Shirt Day in support of Bullying Prevention
 * Business Leadership Sponsored Sales
 * Charity of Hope
 * COBS Bakery
 * Coat for Kids Drive
 * Construction Technology Charcuterie/Live Edge
 * Elementary March Madness Basketball Camp
 * Elementary School Summer Sports Camp
 * Floodlight Football
 * Green Industries/Horticulture Community Gardens
 * Habitat for Humanity CATCH18
 * Halton Catholic Children’s Education Fund - HCCEF
 * Irish Cares
 * Joe Luciani Memorial Football Game
 * May-Giving Food Drive
 * Mental Health Awareness
 * New 2 You Pre-Owned Uniform Sales
 * Notre Dame Spirit Wear Sales
 * Orange Shirt Day in support of Truth and Reconciliation - “Every Child Matters”
 * Pink Day Terry Fox Foundation Fight Against Cancer
 * Purple Shirt Day in support of Diversity and LGBTQ
 * Right to Play Soccer Tournament
 * Sports Marketing Sponsored Tournaments
 * Student Council Sponsored Events
 * Trivia Night
 * United Way Campaign Paint the Town Red Day
 * World Down syndrome Day
 * Winch Group Sports Equipment Drive to support the Indigenous Community in the North

Options may vary depending on staff availability, the continued participation of other schools, and the success of the activity the previous year.

Academics
Notre Dame has a wide array of courses in many different areas of interest. Students with a 79.5 percent overall average or above are recognized by being placed on the school's Honour Roll. Students with the highest average in a course and students who have the highest overall averages of each grade are also recognized.

Staff
There are currently 70+ full-time teachers and 100+ total staff employed at Notre Dame. As of 2024, the Principal is Norman Roberts and the two vice-principals are Mark Ilczyszyn. The school's Administrative Assistant is Anna Butrym and the Financial Clerk is Ida Power. The school Chaplaincy lead is Brian Dunn.

There are 10 Department Heads who serve on Academic Council.

Past Administration

 * Peter Visser, Principal, 1987–1997
 * Art Kelly, Principal, 1997-1998
 * Paul Thompson, Principal, 1998–2005
 * Stanley Gajewski, Principal, 2005–2008
 * Thomas Dunn, Principal, 2008–2010
 * Michael Iannetta, Principal 2010-2013
 * Cairine MacDonald, Principal 2013–2017
 * Anthony Cordeiro, Principal 2017–2000
 * Norman Roberts, Principal 2000-Present


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Sandbot
Hi Trödel, you'll be happy to note that Sandbot is back up and running. Sorry for the wait. --AllyUnion (talk) 22:23, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

philosophical disc. of quantum mech
Hi, Just saw the notice you posted on the article with the very long title on quantum mechanics interpretation. I've been trying to get the gentleman who wrote the article to (1) write more clearly and (2) identify his sources so that I can see a clearer account of what he is trying to put into encyclopedia form. He has cited a French author with family name of Messiah. Messiah is an astonishingly lucid writer. But I can't convince the guy that he needs to give page numbers, not just indicate that substantiation is somewhere in a two-volume text written for physicists. So, if you could find a moment to ask specifically for the page numbers whenever authors and texts are cited then it would be a big help. Thanks. P0M 00:53, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

my userpage
thank you for updating my "user wants admin" template for me, it's much appreciated :)

--AppleBoy Talk 17:28, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

So...
you're back, if even in a small way? That's great! May I suggest Esperanza?? :) Anyways, I noticed that you voted both Support and Remit to Arbcom in Stevertigo's new RfA. I'm pretty sure that editors are considering these as two separate vote categories. At least, that's how I voted. Just to let you know... Cheers, Bratsche talk 03:29, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back!
Great to see you're back; it seemed for a while there that the casualty rate of among LDS editors was getting rather horrific:  (Tom Haws, Cool Hand Luke, yourself). Hope you fare well in resumed tenure. Alai 20:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree - its lonely here. Welcome back. -Visorstuff 20:50, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Yeah man, welcome. It's good to see you again. Cookiecaper 21:00, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Good to see you back again. WBardwin 01:10, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Joe Jr's infobox
I certainly sympathise with your feelings about editing in the LDS area. I'll certainly do as you suggest if I come across such issues. I must admit I've not been especially active in that area: my watchlist's getting to big to actually ever watch, and more generic fixer-up tasks have distracted me. Plus it tends to be an area that I only really make innocuous edits, and generic NPOVing suggestions in. At any rate, I hope your transition from "emotional charge" to "colour charge" works out well for you.

I've lobbed in my two cents on the infobox, on the article talk page; the only POV problem I can see with it is the LDS Church link. The aesthetics I don't feel especially strongly about, but the old one did seem a little more informative. Alai 15:36, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Your request for comment on QM "philosophy" article
Hi,

I have managed to make some progress, I think. Since Ingham didn't like your rewrite of his introduction he made some comments that allowed me to get a little greater sense of what he is trying to say. I went back to the Messiah text and may have found the material he was basing some of his ideas on. Given that I was able to write something that at least has his mild approval. I put a point-by-point on the discussion page to the rfd to show all or most of the many things that I find incomprehensible and/or problematical with the section on measurement. That was the core of his original article, and I've been trying to get responsive answers on it since August with no great results. Maybe other people read it and think it makes perfect sense or at least they are sure of what he is talking about. I suppose I could try to change it, but I'd rather have more input from somebody else first. I'm no mind reader. Thanks for your help so far, and thanks for any further comments you may be able to make. P0M 05:02, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I am still stuck on the "measurement" section that he wrote. I have received guidance from another contributor who says s/he can actually read it and even thinks it is correct. I still have received almost no responsive communications from Ingham. I would have let it go long ago, but for a while I thought that he might be saying something interesting that wasn't getting mentioned in the usual places.

I am impressed by the differences in clarity of the Wikipedia physics articles as compared to things written by Reichenbach, Bohr, Pauli, et al. Wikipedia physics articles appear to me to be written for physicists by physicists. In general, if I had a question I think I would rather go to Sears or Messiah or somebody else who can write clearly as well as do math.

I remember reading George Gamow's One, Two, Three... Infinity, which he said he wrote for his little son, and feeling totally stupid because some parts of it were incomprehensible. Looking back at the book now, I see that some parts are badly written. I don't mean to take a crack at Gamow, but only to say that a writer for the general audience, for, e.g., the high school student trying to get a clear idea of something, is wasting his/her time if he writes stuff that only his mother could understand. It reminds me of our second-trimester physics teacher, whom we unaffectionately called "Chowderhead." (It made fun of his Russian family name.) He would teach physics twice in a row, the first at 9 and the second at 10. If you were in the second class you could forget about following most of what he said because he would use the equations he had already written the first time around, he would point behind himself, not even glancing back to see what he was really pointing at, and then say something like, "And then this equation clearly shows that..." Well, he was getting paid for doing it, so I guess from his standpoint it was a worthwhile activity. But most of his students didn't find his classes worth much to them.

Back to the article... If I ever get clear on what he is trying to do I guess I could better tell whether citations are available to make it less like personal research. From what Zenz says on my talk page, he isn't really saying anything new, so I am not sure how the personal research part comes in. I tend now to regret the parts I added, parts that seemed to me at the time antithetical to what I imagined he was intending to say. Unfortunately it did nothing to clarify his ideas and only made a bad article longer. Maybe I should delete my own stuff, but that would look petty. P0M 03:56, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Article Rating Experiment
I'm back! What do you think of this direction? Tom Haws 06:24, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Sock Puppets
On wiki Books you accused me of being a sock puppet, which was kind of understandable considering my very recent registration on Wiki books and my very small amount of edits. However i am not a sock puppet and the only reason I do not have many edits on Wiki Books is that i Mainly edit Wikipedia and only had cause to register on Wiki Books to vote on the VFU. I have in fact previously discussed this subject as an anon. If you want to check this my first edit to the discussion was before I realised I was not registered on Wiki Books, so it bears my IP address, I then added the tildes as my account, but the entry before it in the edit list is my IP.

Could you Please withdraw your allegation. It is understandable that you might reach the conclusion that you did but it is incorrect.Dolive21 13:49, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you are worried about - I just asked the admins counting the votes to be more careful. If you're not a sock then what does it matter what I said. Trödel| talk  20:00, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I would still appreciate it if you could just confirm that you do not think i am sock puppet. I wrote a very big comment, which if i were  sock puppet i would have put on from my main account. Dolive21 21:09, 30 November 2005
 * I can't confirm whether you are a sockpuppet or not - I can assume, in good faith, that you are not a sock. Unfortunately, if it was up to me to count the votes I probably wouldn't count yours: you have less than 50 edits on wikipedia and seem to be overly concerned with the sockpuppet label for someone who has only been on the wiki for a month. However, as a fellow editor I welcome you and hope you will continue to contribute to wikipedia. Trödel| talk 21:54, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Re: Jimmy Wales
Thanks for the information. I'm going to post at WP:AN/I to let some other admins know.--Sean|Bla ck 03:22, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

User Bill of Rights
You may be interested in User Bill of Rights. (SEWilco 07:03, 18 December 2005 (UTC))
 * Not sure I agree with all these - users need to treat each other respectfully - and I support faster banning of those that use personal attacks or other trolling like behavior since they can come back as a new user at any time. Trödel| talk 12:22, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Banning can happen as fast as it does now except those new situations when a new rule/policy has to be created. But enforcement should be handled equally, and violations by favored people not be ignored.  (SEWilco 04:34, 19 December 2005 (UTC))

Sig subpage, and JSJ on main page
I protected your former sig as per your request; I note that the list of protected pages states that "The appropriateness of doing this is disputed." but it seems reasonable in the circumstances, and given that it's now listed there as such, it's at least transparent and reversible if it comes to that. On the main page appearance: I'm glad to see it's been selected for that page, and even better that it was picked for the "optimal" date (the wheels of Raul654 turn oft slow, but true). Unfortunately (actually largely fortunately!) I'm shortly heading back to Scotland for Christmas, so I'll be online only very intermittently until the new year (via dialup and local library, if at all). I hope the rest of you are equal to the anti-vandal task! And you're right, my edit count has definitely gone into something of a lull of late. :) Alai 02:19, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Early life of JS as Featured article
The 23rd will be as hectic for me as for anyone else. But I will be at home most of the day and will try and check on the article every couple of hours at least. Merry Christmas. WBardwin 03:16, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I'll monitor for a chunk of the morning for sure. Afternoon is not good leading up to the broadcast. Good luck to us all! -Visorstuff 17:44, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Sure - I would be glad to help, but I'm not sure how much time I'll have that day - my parents will probably want me to help with last-minute Christmas preparations and such. --Trevdna 17:59, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I wasn't able to get to the computer, and it slipped my mind anyway - sorry I couldn't help at all. --Trevdna 02:55, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I should have made a note of response at WP:LDS to save you the trouble of a special invite. Thanks!  I will be looking in.  Tom Haws 18:26, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I'll keep an eye on it as well. Thanks for the heads up. Deadsalmon 05:25, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

That was because I didn't realize I was reverting your edit at the time, only the one before! The rest of my reverts of that text have included an explanation. Some other elements of the article bother me (as I have mentioned on the talk page), but seeing as it's an FA, I wanted to give people plenty of time to respond before making any changes. The Jade Knight 23:32, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Rename of Alexander
A vote has been called to rename Alexander, Crown Prince of Yugoslavia to Aleksandar Karađorđević. The renamers have at least stopped constant unilateral renaming (at last!). Please come, express your opinion and vote. Slán. FearÉIREANN \(caint) 21:14, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Popups Assisted Revert
Once you've installed Popups, when you hover over a link for a particular revision of a page, you'll get a little window. There will be an 'actions' menu (usually right next to the article title,) and 'revert' is one of the options that will come up, a few items down from the top. That will revert the article to the revision you had your pointer hovering over. It does it by opening up the version you've selected to edit, plugging in the default edit summary, and clicking the save button for you. It saves you a few clicks, anyway, and I like it. Let me know if that doesn't make sense; I'm not sure I explained it very well. -- Vary 03:01, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm sorry it's giving you trouble. I wish I were techinical enough to be able to offer more help.  Good luck with it! -- Vary 04:02, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Christmas - statement not redundant
I disagree with your reading. "Most, though not all, Christians celebrate Christmas on December 25th" is ambiguous as to whether it is saying that all Christians celebrate Christmas, or whether it saying that all Christians celebrate Christmas, but some celebrate it on a day other than December 25th. The clarification is necessary. Nandesuka 13:08, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

130.13.121.233
Whee, I sneaked in a revert, just so's not to make the day a complete FA-reverting loss. (Pesky library was closed...) I'll check back in an hour or two, if the anon's continued to blank, or has popped up under a different dynamic IP or whatever, I'll last-warning or block as appropriate. Alai 00:21, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

LDS alert
Hello! As you have contributed to LDS/Mormon articles in the past, this is a friendly heads-up that Articles_for_deletion/List_of_temples_of_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints is currently being discussed. Any comments you have regarding the issue would be appreciated. Thanks! —akghetto talk 11:06, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your help with the temple list. I see your changes there, and am really disappointed that the list has to be compromised by removing the LDS links and adding edits to each row just so that it's kept.  However, as a note on the changes that you made - I am all right with it, but was wondering if we could take out the Announced column.  I think that the data that should be shown in the list is the data that you want to compare between temples.  The Dedicated column already gives you the dedication date for comparison, which is not far off from the Announcement date.  I think that people can drill down into the temple article for the Announcement date. I have other columns that I want to add that I think will add a lot more value (such as architectural features), and there is not much horizontal space.  Bhludzin 16:11, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Sandbot is against profanity?
''Sandbot keeps reverting my removal of "No profanity, please." from Introduction. As Wikipedia is not censored for the "protection" of minors, and there is in fact nothing wrong with profanity, I am requesting that you modify Sandbot to stop doing this. In fact this sentence may give some newbies the impression that Wikipedia is in fact censored. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates! ) 21:49, 11 January 2006 (UTC)''
 * Hi Trödel. Welcome back.  I thought to let you know about this little thing because you were the one who first had me set up the Introduction to be raked a certain way.  Please let me know if this is acceptable to you. --AllyUnion (talk) 10:53, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Main page redesign
I came across this redesign of the main page - and noticed that some people really like the Hebrew and Dutch main pages. Is there some reason that this type of organization isn't being considered - or has it already been considered and rejected. Thx in adv - Trödel talk 06:51, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

 * This is a topic of discussion, but there is considerable opposition to such a radical organizational change. In my opinion, it's not a good idea to push the featured content down (in favor of static navigational links).  With both the current main page and the proposed draft, I can view all of the featured content without scrolling.  In your example, I have to scroll to see "Did you know...", and "Helpful links" is cut off too.  —David Levy 07:03, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I made some changes - what do you think now? When I first came to Wikipedia I was confused that there was no where to start that was obvious. I think having the 10 main portals icons and their categories is very useful for someone used to web browsing as opposed to searching. Trödel talk 08:17, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

 * That's better in some respects, but it seems rather cluttered and complicated. Also, the category icons/names are unevenly spaced.

 * I don't believe that it's appropriate to have the icons near the top. We already have the text links, and I think that it's better to put the content first.  —David Levy 08:33, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Big Pun
Thanks for the revert. I've been watching this action for a while - you can see my edits. Good catch. jglc | t | c 03:47, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

New wheat and chaff
If I get your drift correctly, I think what you want may be Special:Newpages. Of course, I'm sure they're also looking for volunteers to keep an eye on Special:Recentchangeslinked/Category:Living people, though that's not a task I envy anyone. (Operation Let Us Not Be Sued for Libel, as I like to think of it.) That help at all? Alai 22:39, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Glad to help. As I understand it (and gather from my watchlist), tagging existing bios with that category is also an on-going process, that I'm sure it's well in hand.  (I think someone has a list of possible such, though I believe they're also being tagged on an ad hoc basis too.)  And of course, arguing about the very existence, name, etc of that category is also on many people's current to-do list. :)  Alai 22:47, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Note from Jimbo re removing rude commentary from talk being ok
From Jimbo's talk page "Yes, I have taken to doing it to resolve external complaints. I think anyone and everyone should feel free to remove rude or potentially annoying remarks or discussions from talk pages, especially when the discussion in question is old. The history is there for anyone who needs it, but the history is not indexed by google.--Jimbo Wales 00:54, 4 February 2006 (UTC)"

Locke Cole
I have to agree here - this seems like an attempt to provoke Neto. Trödel talk 13:07, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Was Cleared as filed also attempting to provoke Netoholic? That's whose edits you reverted when you restored the fair use images to Netoholic's user page (in violation of policy) without explanation.

 * If you haven't already, please see my replies to Wgfinley on his his talk page and at WP:AN/I. —David Levy 16:39, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Early life of Joseph Smith
The article Early life of Joseph Smith, Jr./Stable is currently being proposed to be made a Stable version, this nomination is a test of the process detailed on that page. As you have edited that page recently, please review the stable version of the article and join the discussion at Talk:Early_life_of_Joseph_Smith%2C_Jr./Stable. dml 00:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Joseph Smith
Hi, I have been reading over the Joseph Smith, Jr. talk page to help, but to be honest it looks like it's just bogged down with conversation that does not affect the article. If a dispute arises and you need a consensus or vote on a specific issue, please call on me and I'd be more than happy to help. But the current discussions are a bit lifeless and don't affect the article. Cuñado  -  Talk  03:43, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: Larry Sanger
No problem; I also misinterpreted your edit summary, not scrolling down to see the bottom part. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note? ) 00:48, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes
You're right, we're here to build an encyclopedia. So why are some admins unilaterally deciding certain userboxes should be deleted and forcing us all to waste time voting at WP:DRV to get them undeleted? The encyclopedia would benefit more if people cooled off. —Locke Cole • t • c 01:05, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah, a law and order type
I see you are Mormon, I served a mission next door to you in Phoenix Az (1992-1994), but now I am an atheist. Your position on copyright is not surprising, Mormons as a whole tend to be very conservative and have very "law and order" mentalities. I hope this does not offend you. It is not meant too. Please don't call me too repentence, i get that enough from my parents. In addition, I would ask that you don't bring up my religious afiliation on my user talk page in the middle of this copyright argument. I find in my eperience, that most Americans tend to be not as tolerant as I would like of atheists. I will simply watch your page if you desire to talk here. Travb 22:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you mean by law and order mentality, but I do think that we (American's) often "borrow" other people's intellectual property because the mechanisms for the transaction that is needed (i.e. limited use permission) do not exist and can not properly be created without the transaction cost exceeding the value of the permission (which is close to $0.00 in most cases) so we keep using other's work, and they don't sue us :). How did you like Phoenix - that would be a hard place to serve a mission - weather wise - though I am guessing that if it was anything like Tucson the members were generally receptive and each companionship covered more than one ward. That is very different than the 2-3 companionships per ward/branch in my mission. I think there is a great disconnect between what athiest view as the proper place of religion in the public square, and the religious view of the proper place of religion in the public square. Briefly, atheist (usually) want no religion in the public square, and religionists want equal access (non-denominational) to the public square and view athiesm as just one other "religion" (for lack of a better term) that needs to be accomodated in that square. Trödel talk 02:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Arizona sucked weather wise, but we had wards and functioning stakies. So that was nice.  I really enjoyed my mission, best two years for my life.  In regards to religion in the public square I don't follow any of the policital social debates of America, I think they are just smoke screens for more important economic issues.Travb 03:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

 * In regards to your comments on my user page, I have not read them yet, I am burned out on the issue right now, tired of fighitng everyone, but probably will respond in a couple of days.Travb 03:53, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I wish your response wasn't so predictable
This morning I wrote this too user:Rjensen, predicting your response:
 * "I posted (the message I sent you) on about 6 admins boards, and Jimmy Wales user page. I think it is a hollow and fleeting victory in many respects though. These admins will start to try and poke holes in the definition of what "is" "is", and won't admit what it clearly says in this letter: that it is now okay to post the cover photos. I hope I am wrong, and good sense prevails, but given the fair use track record, "good sense" always loses."

Predictable, you question what the Time rep REALLY meant (you are questioning the defintion of what she meant, as I predicted):

 * ""Fair use doctrine allows you to use a reasonable text excerpt with a link back to the entire article at time.com." most of those articles doesn't have what I'd call a "reasonable text excerpt with a link back to the entire article at time.com."

No one actually consulted a lawyer or at the minimum even ask Time magazine if it was okay to keep the photos.

I am going to wait for a response from Tony contacting Time, as should have been done originally.

In the interm, please read the Kelly v. Arriba Soft Corporation case.Travb 22:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * See my response here Trödel talk 02:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC) (my response copied below from deleted user page)
 * I think you misunderstand my comment, because I was not explicitly explaining but summarizing. Bonnie Kroll, according to your comment on Jimbo's (and from what I gather) other Admin's pages, said two things:
 * "Fair use doctrine allows you to use a reasonable text excerpt with a link back to the entire article at time.com."
 * "You may also use a thumbnail of our cover images, as long as you link back to a page on time.com."
 * In comment 1) Ms Kroll was summarizing fair use for a text excerpt (as you explained on my talk page), in other words - she granted no extra permissions to use the text. Whether excerpts of the text should be included is at the discretion of the editors.
 * In comment 2) Ms Kroll granted you (and presumably Wikipedia) a license to use thumbnails, and required attribution as a term of the license. Unfortunately, on wikipedia, because the information that is gathered is freely disseminated to other entities under the GFDL, her grant of a license to you (and wikipedia) is not sufficient to satisfy the needs of wikipedia. Wikipedia needs aa license that also allows others to make a copy of the contributions (text/images) on wikipedia for their own use as long as they attribute the information to wikipedia. More specifically, every contribution made to wikipedia (including images that are uploaded) needs to meet this standard:
 * In this case you don't have the right to grant the permission to use the images, but Ms Kroll does - so we need her to grant permission in away that will meet thie terms of this language above.
 * Since, it is clear (to most people) that Wikipedia can use lower resolution versions (not thumbnails) of images from Time Magazine, under Fair use doctrine, which is not limited to Wikipedia (i.e. those that make a copy of the wikipedia data can also rely on it for protection), Fair use provides superior justification for use on wikipedia than the limited permission granted by Ms Kroll. In other words, although Ms Kroll granted wikipedia permission only, we need to make sure that contributions can meet the standards of the GFDL and most feel that using images under the fair use doctrine provides better protection (although - as Jimbo has often said, wikipedia is better off if all the owners of the images granted a GFDL compliant permission - which I firmly agree should be wikipedia's long-term goal).
 * I think you are referencing me to Kelly v. Arriba Soft Corporation because that case holds that "Arriba’s use of Kelly’s images as thumbnails in its search engine is a fair use." There are some key distinctions between Arriba's use and Wikipedia's use, primarily under factor (1) (of the 17 US Code § 107). Use on Wikipedia is for educational benefit (and since there is no sale involved like in Basic Books, Inc. v. Kinko's Graphics Corporation) the nature and character of the work are much stronger for wikipedia. In general educational use has been granted wide latitude under the fair use doctrine.
 * Wikipedia's general rule that copyrighted images can be used only if the resolution is low (i.e. poor) provides that wikipedia will be ok under (3), "the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole." This is inline with the holiding in Arriba.
 * I could be wrong, but perhaps Ms. Kroll did intend to grant you a license to use the thumbnails that would meet our needs; however, the plain language does not do so (IANYL or wikipedia's for that matter, but that is my professional opinion). If you want to persue this, ask Ms Kroll (or maybe Tony will) if she is granting wikipedia a creative commons license to use and allow others to copy and use as long as it meets certain conditions, such as attribution, non-commercial, no derivative works, etc. Probably the best way to ask would be something like, "So does your email to me mean that I am free to use and make copies for others (who could also make copies - since I can't control them) of thumbnails of time cover pages as long all of us attribute the images with a link to Time?"
 * Again - thanks for your efforts and keep me informed of the results. Trödel• talk 02:26, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Again - thanks for your efforts and keep me informed of the results. Trödel• talk 02:26, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Sandbox redirects
Reverted my (bold) errors with the sandbox redirects, done because I used Template_talk:Sandbox by mistake, with my real objective Wikipedia_tak:Sandbox. Apologies. -- Dogears (talk) 23:17, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

GWU
Hello, I'm trying (again) to get The George Washington University moved to George Washington University. Since you weighed in on this when it came up last year, I thought you might like to weigh in again. john k 23:30, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

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United Nations General Assembly Resolution 505 (VI)

The United Nations General Assembly Resolution 505 is titled Threats to the political independence and territorial integrity of China and to the peace of the Far East, resulting from Soviet violations of the Sino-Soviet Treaty of Friendship and Alliance of August 14, 1945 and from Soviet violations of the Charter of the United Nations. The UN General Assembly adopted this resolution on 1 February 1952 during its sixth session after the Republic of China complained to the United Nations against the Soviet Union.

Historical background
The Empire of Japan invaded Manchuria (Northeast China) in 1931 and established Manchukuo in 1932. The Nationalist government protested the Japanese invasion and the League of Nations voted 42-1 (only Japan voted against) to pass the Lytton Report to demand Manchuria be returned to China, but Japan refused to comply and left the League of Nations. The Republic of China neither recognized Manchukuo nor was able to recover Manchuria.

In World War II, one Soviet precondition for a declaration of war against Japan was an American recognition of Mongolian independence from China, and a recognition of Soviet interests in the Manchurian railways and Port Arthur; these were agreed without Chinese representation or consent. The Soviet threat of seizing parts of Inner Mongolia induced China to recognize Outer Mongolia's independence, provided that a referendum be held. The referendum took place on 20 October 1945, with (according to official numbers) 100% of the electorate voting for independence. In line with the concluding statement of the Yalta Conference and to receive the southern part of Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands after the defeat of Japan, Soviet Union immediately fought against Japan. Later, the USSR and the Republic of China signed the Treaty of Friendship and Alliance with the Republic of China on 14 August 1945. However, the National Government of the Republic of China believed the Soviet Union violated the treaty because it obstructed the efforts of the Republic of China to re-establish national authority in Manchuria and aided the Chinese Communist Party by giving it weapons surrendered by the Japanese Imperial Army. Additionally, the Soviet Union handed territorial control to the Chinese Communist Party in that area against United States Marines aided military dispatchment and installation of Nationalist Government in North East China during the early period of Chinese Civil War after 1945.

In 1949, the Chinese Communist Party won the Chinese Civil War, resulting in the establishment of the People's Republic of China on 1 October 1949. The Kuomintang government of the Republic of China was forced to retreat to Taiwan, recovered from Japan in 1945 along with the Pescadores, where it continued to maintain itself as the sole legitimate government of all China and declared the Communist government to be illegitimate. With the support of the Western bloc amid the Cold War, the Republic of China was able to retain the seat of China in the United Nations despite having lost so much territory to the Communists. Both Mongolia and the nascent PRC confirmed their mutual recognition on 6 October 1949.

The vote
On 1 February 1952, the Republic of China filed a complaint to the United Nations against the Soviet Union, which it resented for aiding the Communists in the Civil War. The UN General Assembly adopted Resolution 505 to condemn the Soviet Union, with 25 countries supporting the resolution, nine opposing, 24 abstaining, and two not voting.

Later development
On 24 February 1953, the Legislative Yuan of the Republic of China abolished the Sino-Soviet Treaty of Friendship and Alliance and refused to recognize the independence of the Mongolian People's Republic. The Republic of China considered Resolution 505 a diplomatic victory, even though the hope of recovering mainland China and Mongolia grew increasingly dimmer as time went by. The Republic of China vetoed the Mongolian bid for UN membership in 1955, but pressure from the Soviet bloc, Third World states and non-aligned states eventually forced the Republic of China to stop blocking Mongolia, so Mongolia joined the UN in 1961 in exchange for the Republic of China's seat to be retained by votes in the General Assembly in the same year at that time.

On 21 May 2012, the Mainland Affairs Council released a press release saying that Outer Mongolia is not a part of the Republic of China, whilst the Constitutional Court of the Republic of China (regarding interpretation of the Republic of China constitution) remained neutral on the Mongolian issue. Taiwan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs opened a representative office in Mongolia in 2002 with reciprocity from Mongolia in Taiwan in 2003. The Republic of China's Mongolian and Tibetan Affairs Commission was also formally repealed in 2017.


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Covington

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. — Trilobite (Talk) 14:54, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Stephen Covington
Vanity, but at least this one's been elected to something ("Soil and Water Conservation District Supervisor for Group 4 in Nassau County, Florida" -- hardly encyclopedic). See also Conservative Pulse. RadicalSubversiv E 02:29, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Userfy if at all possible. Otherwise, delete. So much work for so little notability. -- BD2412 talk 02:37, 2005 Jun 9 (UTC)
 * Delete. Mr. Covington has a very good biography for a college student and perhaps some day he will merit an entry, but Wikipedia is not a crystal ball... DS1953 03:43, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Reluctantly... it is cool and all, but he doesn't seem notable enough, at least not yet... --Mysidia 07:30, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete vanity. JamesBurns 08:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep A political office is a political office, and the holder of one is a politican. Many Americans are uninformed about the vital role that Soil and Water Conservation Districts play in the absolutely necessary agricultural community.  The goal of this article is to act as a reference to concerning the work of one such individual serving on a SWC Board.  More of this individual's work on the board will be posted in the future.

Moreover there is not enough information in Wikipedia concerning local-level politicians, except of course in large cities. This is an unjust double standard that works against smaller communities, although they are just as unique as their larger cousins. Wikipedia should work to correct this bias against small localities and recognize their important contributions to the fabric of America. Khatores

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Talk:Something Wicked This Way Comes (novel)

Untitled
Something's fishy with part of this article, and I don't have the know-how to fix the formatting...

Hard to teach it
I am having the hardest time trying to get my students to get into the book. But I am plowing through the complaints and the hardship. I believe that this book has a good story line but the students haven't given it a chance. [User:Koavf] 6 January 2006

Okay, what age are your students? [User:67.52.216.4] 31 March 2006

Perhaps if you ran the Disney movie for them, they might be more interested. It's a shame that a good book can't stand on its own, but you do what you have to do. — Walloon 18:43, 31 March 2006 (UTC) (P.S. Don't forget to sign your posts with a dash and four tildas "~". That automatically puts your user name and the date/time on your posts.)

Cover art
Let's have a vote about which cover to display in this article: the cover by, or the. I'll start off with a vote for that wonderful painting by Mugnaini. The way he works so many different perspectives — the distant train and bridge seen in profile, the startling thrust of the tower, the observant medium distance view of the neighborhood with that shadow approaching on the lower right. How he integrates the title and author into the artwork. And I seriously want a weather vane like like that on my house! — Walloon 19:54, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Will and Jim's age
I'm correcting Will and Jim's age from twelve to "on the verge of fourteen." From the Prologue:
 * One year Halloween came on October 24, three hours after midnight.

 * At that time, James Nightshade of 97 Oak Street was thirteen years eleven months, twenty-three days old. Next door, William Halloway was thirteen years, eleven months, and twenty-four days old. Both touched toward fourteen; it almost trembled in their hands.

— Walloon 08:10, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Marking on Jim's Roof and Will's Lure of the Witch
I'm correcting the part of the plot summary which says that the Witch in the ballon left marks on both the boys' roofs. This is incorrect. She only marked the roof of Jim's house.

Also, I have corrected the part of the plot summary which says that Will lured the Witch to an abandoned warehouse. I was actually just an abandoned house.

-Adam157.142.202.115 16:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Structure of the novel
In this section under Themes, I've edited the last sentence to have it describe Will more accurately. The previous version of the sentence set up an absolute contrast between Will always resisting evil vs. his friend Jim, who is repeatedly tempted to succumb to evil's wiles. The description of Jim is relatively accurate, but I've changed the clause about Will to acknowledge that in the novel Will has many crises of faith that he's doing the right thing. (Otherwise, the drama would be much less interesting.) Thus: "Jim represents good that is always on the verge of giving into temptation, while Will, though he has crises and doubts, is the part of us that resists giving in." Pschmid1 18:49, 19 August 2012 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pschmid1 (talk • contribs)

Literary significance
I've edited the last paragraph of this section to mention Neil Gaiman, not just Stephen King, as an important writer influenced by Bradbury's Something Wicked This Way Comes. Also added a footnote citing Gaiman's eloquent statement about Bradbury's influence, published in June 2012 after Bradbury's death. Pschmid1 19:15, 19 August 2012 (UTC) Here below are the changes. The footnote has a link to Gaiman's tribute on the Guardian website; hope that's ok. Here below is the new paragraph.

Something Wicked has influenced several fantasy and horror authors, the most prominent being Neil Gaiman and Stephen King. Gaiman paid eloquent tribute to Bradbury's influence on him and many others in The Guardian in 2012, after Bradbury's death. Gaiman's novel American Gods can be read as a tribute to and attempt to surpass many of the "dark carnival" themes in Bradbury's work. The motif of ordinary people up against sinister, supernatural forces appears in many of King's works, including It and Dreamcatcher. King also discusses the Bradbury novel quite extensively in his non-fiction book Danse Macabre. Pschmid1 19:49, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Copyright?
Should a link to the English version on a Russian website really be here? — 75.66.172.38 02:08, 28 June 2007) (UTC)
 * The novel is out of copyright and in the public domain in Russia because Russia's predecessor the Soviet Union was not a signatory to a multilateral, international copyright treaty until 1973; see Copyright law of the Soviet Union. However, the Wikipedia servers are in the U.S. — Walloon 18:41, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Whether it is PD in Russia is disputed, see Copyright law of the Russian Federation. But that's entirely besides the point. Bradbury's novel is also PD in Afghanistan. So what? It may or may not be PD in Russia. So what? The work is copyrighted in the UK and in the U.S., and most other countries of the Berne Convention. Lupo 11:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Lupo, that was my point. — Walloon 18:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Somethingwickedfirstedition2.jpg
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Charmed?
OK, I never read this book or anything. I came across it because Patrick Rothfuss mentioned it in an interview, and I remember the pilot episode of the TV show Charmed was named similarly. Then I saw that Halloway's one of the main characters' name. So just wondering if there's any connection. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.242.244.122 (talk) 21:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC) i am allso jewish —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.13.78.150 (talk) 16:39, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Both of them riff off Shakepeare's line from Macbeth: By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes. It's a line from one of the three witches.  RossPatterson (talk) 03:00, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Dust Witch
At the end of the third paragraph, there is a line about the Dust Witch: "The night the Dust Witch comes in her balloon to find Jim and Will, but Will outsmarts her and destroys her balloon." This is the first we hear of her in the article, and it's a poor introduction. The line is written as if we've already been introduced to her. I'd correct it, but it's been years since I read the book, and I don't know enough about the scene to make it sound right, and still be accurate. 170.145.0.100 (talk) 18:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I learned from Wikipedia's page on Something Wicked the movie that the Dust Witch was played by Pam Grier. Cool! Pschmid1 19:32, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

novel in pop culture
i removed two lines in this section as there is no way of telling whether they come from the original shakespeare, rather than the ray bradbury novel, and i think the former more likely.--Mongreilf (talk) 11:02, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Harry Potter Reference
I noticed that the very last sentence of the article mentions that in one of the Harry Potter movies, Professor Flitwick leads the Hogwarts chorus in a rendition of "Something Wicked This Way Comes." The song is based off the line from Hamlet, not the Bradbury book. The song in question was a play on the Shakespeare line, spoken by one of the three witches in Hamlet. I propose we remove that line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.139.112.146 (talk) 20:06, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

This comment above makes no sense, and neither does this person's edit removing the Harry Potter reference from the Wikipedia page on Bradbury's Something Wicked novel. The line in question that gives Bradbury his title is from Macbeth, not Hamlet, and it's Macbeth that has 3 witches, not Hamlet. By the way, the moment in the Harry Potter books when Professor Flitwick leads the Hogwarts chorus in the song "Something Wicked This Way Comes" may be a little tribute by J.K. Rowling to Bradbury, not just to her beloved Shakespeare. Certainly Bradbury's influence on Rowlings is a subject worth more exploration, given the importance of both these authors. For this reason I propose that we RESTORE the Harry Potter Reference to the Wikipedia page on this novel. What do others think? Pschmid1 19:23, 19 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pschmid1 (talk • contribs)

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Something Wicked This Way Comes (1972)
How come in adaptations there's no mention of the very first adaption of the book into a "movie," namely from 1972..?!: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2174151/reference

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Talk:1993 Chrétien attack ad

Earlier discussion

 * Is there any place where one could see the ad in question? 70.115.245.11
 * You can see the first part of it here.Habsfannova 20:51, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Could someone please cite "One Tory described them as allowing Chrétien to 'make the speech he had been waiting his entire career to deliver.'"? -LSD

 * this article ends, implying that the ad was the reason for the conservatives defeat. to be fair, mulroneys vast unpopularity, conservative policies, and an untested unknown (kim campbell) for leader probably had a lot more to do with it. --zuck —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.73.23.228 (talk • contribs).

References and sources
The article has no references or sources, so I have tagged it as such. There is some pretty POV commentary in the article, that I individually tagged, that really needs to be sourced. Skeezix1000 12:56, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I've found some references and added them to the article, and removed the tag accordingly. However, I left some of the smaller tags for things still uncited. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 05:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Image Missing?
It looks like someone attempted to put a picture in the template, but didn't actually insert it? Look at the box to the top-right?--Son of More 05:42, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rapistmother

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was speedy deleted by User:MacGyverMagic as an attack page/vandalism/etc. Sjakkalle (Check!)  12:22, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 08:58, 9 Jun 2005 MacGyverMagic deleted "Rapistmother" (attack page)

Rapistmother
An attack article it seems. Google: "Your search - Rapistmother "University High School" - did not match any documents." and Results 1 - 10 of about 28 for Rapist mother "University High School" Chill Pill Bill 02:34, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. Nonsense. -- BD2412 talk 02:56, 2005 Jun 9 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per BD2412. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson 03:03, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete I concur with the above sentiments. --Mysidia 07:31, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete attack page. JamesBurns 08:11, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. No doubt a teenage-kid-revenge. Oneliner 08:54, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Talk:The Fantastic Four (1994 film)

Page Move
This article is here now to comply with Wikipedia naming conventions for movies. -Acjelen 02:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Lack of sources
The "Controversy" section of this article contains weasel words such as "the rumor was" and "Another theory is". Avoid weasel terms. It serves the readers ill to not know who circulated the rumour and whose theory it was. With cited sources, readers can gauge the relative credibilities of the hypotheses. Cite your sources. Uncle G 12:56, 2005 Jun 14 (UTC)

As well as the stuff about the option on the film, I read somewhere that another reason it's so bad is that Corman took it on purely as a contractual obligation project, and the production quality is as you'd expect from one. Of course, it might be apocryphal, since I've lost the source. —This unsigned comment was added by 62.252.32.13 (talk • contribs).

Vandalism Removed
I noticed some vandalism as best I could, although I'm not sure how to report the perpetrator. I also cited one or the paragraphs that apparently needed a source. --71.109.37.168 23:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Never intended for release
Corman confirmed that the film was made solely to secure the copyright and it was not intended for release. The confirmation is cited in the "Controversy" section - please do not remove this sentence again without a source conflicting Corman's statement. --Chancemichaels 19:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)Chancemichaels

Comment: I believe the year is mistaken, I'm from Mexico and I have to say that I moved to the USA in year 1993 on June, previous to moving to the USA I rented the movie at a major Video Rental place in Mexico, since I saw it with my father, and I lived 5 straight years in the USA without going back to Mexico, with that said, I believe this has to be checked with the director or maybe piracy had its dues done.

"The producers could have rushed this film into production, hoping that the makers of a big budget version would not want a cheaper version of the same story to be available immediately before their expensive blockbuster." - This is pure speculation.

Bootleg Copies
It's very common to find bootleg copies of this film. My local video store, for example, actually does have a bootleg vhs. Shouldn't there be something about the bootlegs on the page?

Stu-Stu-Studio?
Exactly WHAT studio made the film? I think it was based in Germany, but there doesn't seem to be any information on it. 199.126.186.147 16:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

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Canoe.com

Canoe.com is an English-language Canadian portal site and website network, and is a subsidiary of Postmedia Network. The phrase Canadian Online Explorer appears in the header; the name is also evidently a play on words on canoe (or canoë in French).

Canoe's head office is in Toronto at 333 King Street East.

At launch, Canoe was a joint venture between Sun Media (Toronto Sun Publishing Corp.) and Rogers Communications (Rogers Multi-Media Inc.) though Rogers sold its shares of Canoe to BCE Inc. within its first year.

At the height of its popularity, Canoe had both English and French language version and owned a significant number of websites, including JAM! and the Sun Media newspaper sites. According to May 2008 data from comScore Media Metrix, Canoe's portals and services receive over 7.7 million unique visitors per month in Canada, including over 3.2 million in Quebec.

Services
Canoe offers the Canoe, La Toile du Québec (toile.com - defunct) and Argent (argent.canoe.ca or .com - defunct) portals, as well as the TVA and LCN websites. Canoe offers online services related to employment (jobboom.com).

Defunct domains
Canoe has offered online services that have since gone defunct, abandoned or usurped. These include a site for continuing education (formation.jobboom.com - defunct), housing (micasa.ca - defunct), automobiles (autonet.ca - defunct), expert services for car dealers (ASL Internet), dating (reseaucontact.com - defunct), social networking (espacecanoe.ca - usurped), classifieds (vitevitevite.ca - defunct) and online advertising solutions (canoeklix.ca - defunct).

The main site originally operated as canoe.ca, however this domain was abandoned and later usurped by a gambling website which captures user traffic intended for the old site. Some of the old URLs might still work by changing canoe.ca to canoe.com and/or archives of canoe.com at the Wayback Machine. Canoe.ca was excluded from the Wayback Machine by its new owners (the gambling website) to complicate efforts by sites like Wikipedia from directing traffic away from the gambling site. However, many archives of the .ca site are also available at Archive.today which has no exclusion policy. Finally, because Canoe is a news aggregator, many of the same articles are still available as live URLs at the other sites where Canoe originally obtained them from.

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Oliver Humperdink

John Jay Sutton (January 16, 1949 – March 20, 2011), better known by his ring name Oliver Humperdink, was an American professional wrestling manager and occasional professional wrestler who worked for Jim Crockett Promotions, Florida Championship Wrestling, World Wrestling Federation and World Championship Wrestling.

Career
In the early and mid-1960s, John Sutton began to get to know several wrestlers while working as an usher in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He eventually landed a job as a security guard for the American Wrestling Association (AWA). In 1973, he met Paul Vachon when he went to work at Grand Prix Wrestling (GPW) in Montreal. At GPW, Sutton worked as a manager and an occasional wrestler. He also refereed for a time. Sutton began managing the Hollywood Blonds after they split with their manager, Johnny Rougeau. Both Don Jardine and Dale Hey are credited with coming up with the name "Sir Oliver Humperdink". Jardine claims to have come up with the name, believing it would draw heat from francophone fans in Quebec who hated anything English.

In 1974, Humperdink went to Florida Championship Wrestling and was put into an angle with Mike Graham and Kevin Sullivan. Two years later, he began working with the Hollywood Blondes once again. In 1980 Humperdink became Dusty Rhodes' servant for thirty days after his protege Ivan Koloff lost a match to Rhodes with that stipulation. During the thirty days, Lord Alfred Hayes began managing Humperdink's proteges such as Bobby Jaggers and Nikolai Volkoff. When "Rooster" Humperdink (as Rhodes had nicknamed him), who had become a figure of sympathy during his thirty days' servitude, returned to management and attempted to claim back Jaggers, Hayes and Volkoff brutally beat on him, thus starting a feud with Hayes.

He worked for the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA)'s Jim Crockett Promotions in the 1980s where he managed Greg Valentine, Paul Jones and The One Man Gang. He left the company in 1983 but returned five years later shortly before the company was bought out by Ted Turner and became World Championship Wrestling. While still in the NWA, he formed a stable known as the "House of Humperdink". As a singles wrestler, he held the NWA Florida Heavyweight Championship and NWA Central States Television Championship.

In 1987, the World Wrestling Federation (WWF) approached Humperdink and offered him a job. As a part of the WWF, he managed Bam Bam Bigelow. That same year, he also began managing Paul Orndorff during his feud with Rick Rude. His gimmick was that of a face, but Sutton did not like the gimmick off-screen. He managed the duo during the first-ever Survivor Series in a match that they lost when Bigelow was pinned by André the Giant. Humperdink also managed Bigelow during WrestleMania IV when he lost in the first round of a WWF Championship tournament.

Bigelow and Humperdink left the WWF in mid 1988 and stayed together on the independent circuit before together joining the NWA in 1988. Humperdink was still at the side of Bigelow in his feud with Barry Windham in a match at Starrcade and later joined him in turning heel on Lex Luger in early 1989. After Bigelow left the NWA, Humperdink managed The New Wild Samoans (Fatu, Samu, and The Samoan Savage), calling himself "The Big Kahuna.

He worked for World Championship Wrestling (WCW) in the early 1990s as "Big Daddy Dink", a biker-type gimmick. In WCW, he managed The Fabulous Freebirds (Michael Hayes and Jimmy Garvin). Off-screen, Sutton hated his new gimmick and WCW's office politics. He retired in 1993. In 1995 he returned to manage Bob Orton Jr. and The Hangmen in the American Wrestling Federation.

Personal life
In the 1960s, Sutton was in a car crash and nearly died when he hit a snow bank. After recovering from the incident, his health deteriorated. In 2001, he went through surgery to replace his aortic valve in Key West. He was equipped with a pacemaker and made a full recovery. The Cauliflower Alley Club, whose conventions he attended every year, helped pay for some of his medical expenses. Sutton returned to the hospital in 2008 after heart troubles complicated a case of pneumonia. In early 2011, it was announced that Sutton was diagnosed with cancer of the bladder. He entered a hospice having refused chemotherapy and radiotherapy. Sutton died early on the morning of March 20, 2011, of complications from pneumonia and cancer at the age of 62. Sutton never married nor had children.

Championships and accomplishments

 * Cauliflower Alley Club
 * Other honoree (2005)
 * Central States Wrestling
 * NWA Central States Television Championship (1 time)
 * Championship Wrestling from Florida
 * NWA Florida Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
 * Pro Wrestling Illustrated
 * Manager of the Year (1980)

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested. Dekimasu よ! 07:55, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Lila Bell Wallace → Lila Acheson Wallace – Wallace seems to be better known, at least by posterity, as Lila Acheson Wallace than as Lila Bell Wallace. I'm basing this on the fact that I was looking for Lila Acheson Wallace, which in turn was based on how everything named for her references her maiden name rather than her given middle name: the Lila Acheson Wallace Wing at the Metropolitan Museum of Art; the Lila Acheson Wallace Library and the Lila Acheson Wallace American Playwrights Program at The Juillard School; the Lila Acheson Wallace Wing of Mammals and Their Extinct Relatives at the American Museum of Natural History; the Lila Acheson Wallace Auditorium at the Asia Society; etc. In contrast, the use of the appellation Lila Bell Wallace appears to be limited overwhelmingly in Google search results to sentences that mention her in the same breath as her husband, DeWitt Wallace. (Check out the Google search, excluding matches containing the word "dewitt", and compare it to the search for .) WP:COMMONNAME, then, would appear to warrant the move. Largoplazo (talk) 02:58, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Google Ngrams doesn't even have any references to Lila Bell Wallace. See https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Lila+Acheson+Wallace%2CLila+Bell+Wallace&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CLila%20Acheson%20Wallace%3B%2Cc0. Largoplazo (talk) 03:15, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has 14 articles (including this one) containing "Lila Bell Wallace", and over 40 containing "Lila Acheson Wallace". Granted, most of the latter are in the context of one or another thing named after her. Largoplazo (talk) 03:18, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * In addition, if someone were to write articles about the various programs and structures named after her, it would be weird to say that the Lila Acheson Wallace XYZ was named for Lila Bell Wallace instead of attributing it to Lila Acheson Wallace. Largoplazo (talk) 03:23, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

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I have removed the cleanup tag on this article, after a couple of edits by myself. If anyone disagrees, just pop it back on there. It still needs some work and TLC. Bratsche talk 5 pillars 02:39, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

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I added a "mergeto" template with the article Juicing fish. That article is more thorough, and though it mentions manipulating hormones to change fishes' colors, it seems to exclusively treat the practice of dying or painting fish. It's more thorough than this article, although I think it should be renamed -- so I'm proposing Painted fish's content be merged into Juicing fish, but that the article use the name Painted fish, which is less colloquial. --Ginkgo100 03:24, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Although I got no feedback, I began merging the articles. --Ginkgo100 18:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Hormones

 * It has been rumoured on one aquarium website that some brightly coloured "male" fishes in dealer tanks may actually consist of both males and females treated with hormones so all the fish, males and females alike, show male breeding colours even out of breeding season.

I am removing this content due to a lack of reliable sources on the use of this method. One person posting a theory on usenet in 1995 is not a reliable source. Neil916 (Talk) 15:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Health claims
An anonymous user added a citation needed template to the health claims section of this article. After reviewing the section I agree that it needed to be tightened up with better citations. I can't find any reliable sources for the claim, "Many dyed fish die during this stressful, painful, process and those that do survive often are susceptible to disease.". While such a statement is probably likely, I can't find anything non-bloggy or unbiased to back such a statement up, so I've removed it for now. If anybody can find something better than the comments on about.com, please cite it and put it back in the appropriate section. Also, the second reference by Jim Greenwood, B.V.Sc.. about kidney disease seems kind of iffy, as I can't find anything about this source other than his post to an aquarium club editorial page and the fact that B.V.Sc means Bachelor of veterinary sciences. I don't know what kind of credibility a Bachelor's degree offers, or whether this author really should be calling himself "Doctor", but I haven't turned up any peer-reviewed publications by this author. Likewise the other references in that article seem to be references to other local veterinarians in Austrialia with no published works that I could find. I've cleaned up the section as well as I could, but is anybody able to do some more digging on this? Neil916 (Talk) 06:00, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

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Thomas Calabro

Thomas F. Calabro (born February 3, 1959) is an American actor and director.

Biography
Calabro graduated from Fordham University in New York City.

Calabro began his acting career in theatre with various roles in New York. His first role was as Oberon in William Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream. In 1990, Calabro became a member of the Actors Studio and the Circle Repertory Company, along with fellow actor Denzel Washington.

Calabro's most notable role was playing Dr. Michael Mancini on Melrose Place. He was the only cast member to stay on the show throughout its entire run from 1992 until 1999. After Melrose Place, Calabro had recurring roles on CBS' Without a Trace and Touched by an Angel, and on F/X's Nip/Tuck. Calabro had a recurring role on ABC Family's Greek as Rebecca Logan's father, ex-Senator Ken Logan.

In April 2009, People Magazine announced that Calabro would star in the 2009 series Melrose Place, a continuation of the original show, to be aired on The CW. He also appeared in Locker 13 in 2009. Calabro guest starred on an episode of Castle. He played Scott Donner, a man who is suspected of murder.

Personal life
Calabro has three children with his former wife Elizabeth Pryor.

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Athletics at the 1908 Summer Olympics – Men's 110 metres hurdles

The men's 110 metres hurdles was the shorter of two hurdling events at the 1908 Summer Olympics in London. It was dominated by the American runners. The competition was held from Thursday, July 23, 1908, to Saturday, July 25, 1908. 25 hurdlers from ten nations competed. NOCs could enter up to 12 athletes. The event was won by Forrest Smithson of the United States, the fourth of five consecutive victories for the nation in the first five Olympic Games. It was also the third of four consecutive podium sweeps for the Americans in the event.

Background
This was the fourth appearance of the event, which is one of 12 athletics events to have been held at every Summer Olympics. None of the hurdlers from 1904 returned. The Americans were favored, but it was difficult to determine which one. Forrest Smithson was the winner of the 1907 AAU title and Western Olympic trials; Arthur Shaw was the 1908 AAU and IC4A champion; John Garrels was the 1907 IC4A champion and Central Olympic trials winner; and Leonard Howe had won the Eastern Olympic trials.

Belgium, Canada, Norway, South Africa, and Sweden each made their first appearance in the event, as did the combined Australia/New Zealand team "Australasia" (though Australia had competed in 1904). The United States made its fourth appearance, the only nation to have competed in the 110 metres hurdles in each Games to that point.

Competition format
There were three rounds for the first time. The first round consisted of 14 heats, many of which had only one hurdler and none of which had more than three. The top hurdler in each heat advanced to the semifinals. The 14 semifinalists were divided into four semifinals of 3 or 4 runners each; again, only the top hurdler advanced to the 4-man final.

Ten sets of hurdles were set on the course. The hurdles were 3 ft tall and were placed 10 yd apart beginning 15 yd from the starting line.

Records
These were the standing world and Olympic records (in seconds) prior to the 1908 Summer Olympics.

(*) unofficial 120 yards (= 109.73 m)

Forrest Smithson equalled the Olympic record when he ran 15.4 seconds in his semifinal. In the final he set the first official world record (ratified by the IAAF in 1912) in this event with 15.0 seconds.

Round 1
The first round heats were held on July 23, 1908, making the short hurdles one of the last events to begin. The Americans won every race in which they competed. The British team also had a strong showing, winning any time that there was no American in the race.

Heat 1
Healey won by four yards after leading from the start.

Heat 2
Garrels won by seven yards.

Heat 3
Groenings led by five yards at the finish.

Heat 4
Kiely had no competition in the first round.

Heat 5
Rand and Powell were even for most of the race. Powell hit the ninth hurdle, slowing him just enough for Rand to take the lead and win.

Heat 6
Lemming fell during the race, allowing Walters to win while easing up.

Heat 7
The seventh heat was another in which there was no competition.

Heat 8
Halbart won without competition.

Heat 9
Ahearne was the fourth runner to win without a contest.

Heat 10
Smithson won by ten yards.

Heat 11
Blijstad fell, allowing Hussey to win with a jog.

Heat 12
Kinahan had an easy win by ten yards.

Heat 13
Howe and Leader were even over the hurdles, but Howe edged out Leader in the straight.

Heat 14
Shaw won without a contest.

Semifinals
The semifinal round was held on July 24, 1908. Each of the four heats of the second round were won by American runners.

Semifinal 1
Shaw took the lead at the first set of hurdles, finishing about five metres ahead of Hussey.

Semifinal 2
Smithson had no trouble winning this heat, tying the Olympic record as he did so.

Semifinal 3
Healey led for most of the race, with Rand close behind, but Healey was unable to clear the ninth hurdle cleanly, allowing Rand to pass him and win by a foot.

Semifinal 4
Halbert pulled up lame, and Garrels won by 15 yards.

Final
Smithson pulled away from his countrymen at every set of hurdles to win by five meters and set a new world record.


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This entry is derived from content in the GNU Diffutils manual version 2.8.1, which is copyright (c) 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 2001, 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

The GNU Diffutils manual is released under the GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.1.

I removed the speedy delete notice because it wasn't an advertisement and because I think we should have any article about this. Eric119 03:03, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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diff3 is used by MediaWiki (then here on Wikipedia) to show differences, is it?

QUESTION (and sugestion to put answer at article page): HOW diff3 output of 2 texts comparations can generate a visual comaration (word by word, or char by char), like history here on Wikipedia do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.92.94.38 (talk) 13:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

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List of Pepsi spokespersons

Pepsi, the carbonated beverage, has had many advertising spokespersons over the years. PepsiCo's other drink brands, including Mountain Dew and Gatorade, also have a variety of famous spokespersons.

United States
Joan Crawford was married to PepsiCo president Alfred Steele from 1955 to 1959 (his death), and was advertising executive and board of directors member from 1959 to 1973.

During the 1960s, Joanie Sommers sang two popular commercial songs ("It's Pepsi, for those who think young" and "Now you see it, now you don't, oh, Diet Pepsi") for Pepsi-Cola that were run in commercials and for which she came to be often referred to as "The Pepsi Girl." In 1974 Joseph Nicoletti, then of Brooklyn N.Y., now a music-film consultant based in Laguna Beach, California, sang and produced the theme "You're Drinking Diet Pepsi and it Shows." Hal Linden (Barney Miller) did the voice-over and it was a BBD&O hit Commercial. Nicoletti was signed by legendary ad man Phil Dusenberry. Inducted into the Advertising Hall of Fame, Dusenberry co-wrote the script for the motion picture "The Natural," with Roger Towne. Dusenberry said Nicoletti was one of the best singing Voices in the business.

In 1983, Michael Jackson signed a contract with Pepsi that produced many commercials and world tours through 1993.

In 1986 Michael J Fox appeared in the first of several Pepsi commercials. The first sees him as a student in a library using the power of suggestion to get himself a Pepsi. The second in 1987 sees Fox fight his way though traffic on a rainy night to get his new female neighbour a Diet Pepsi. This advert was also notable for its running time at being one minute and thirty seconds long and the music by Kenny Loggins. Fox's last Pepsi commercial was in 1990.

During the 1989 Grammy Awards telecast, Pepsi and Puerto Rican singer Chayanne was featured in the first advertising spot in Spanish to be broadcast on national television without dubbing or subtitles.

In the early 1990s, Ray Charles was the star of a Diet Pepsi campaign called "You Got the Right One, Baby," which was also known as "Uh-huh."

During the late 1990s the Spice Girls became the face of Pepsi with the tagline “Generation Next,” inspired by their song Move Over from their album Spiceworld. Promotion included TV commercials, CD singles for the promo single "Step to Me," and collectible cans and glasses with each Spice Girl on a different can or cup.

In 2001, Britney Spears became a spokesperson for Pepsi. During her contract Spears did many commercials including ones for the World Cup and other major events. Spears' contract concluded with an advertisement with Pink, Beyoncé Knowles, and Enrique Iglesias, and Amr Diab. The ad was made featuring the cover of the song "We Will Rock You" by Queen set in a Roman gladiator arena.

In 2004, Beyoncé, Jennifer Lopez, and David Beckham and Amr Diab all starred together in a commercial for the brand, featuring the two singers as assassin-like characters.

In 2005, Christina Aguilera was signed to promote the popular drink (she had previously promoted Coca-Cola in 2000). The campaign featuring Aguilera was released in 2006, but not in the United States. Some commercials featured singer Elissa, and some with Aguilera by herself. PepsiCo said in a recent interview that Christina Aguilera has that 'dare for more' approach. Aretha Franklin was also a spokesperson in 1998. In 1999 Janet Jackson signed on to the original "Ask For More" campaign which featured a song of the same name written and sung by Jackson.

In 2006, PepsiCo and Motorola launched the "Cool Tones" campaign. It featured Mariah Carey, Mary J. Blige and The All American Rejects writing and performing ringtones that could be obtained by purchasing a Pepsi bottle. The artists also filmed commercials for the campaign in which they performed their original ringtones.

In 2012, Beyoncé was signed once again to promote Pepsi. This campaign was her fifth for the soft drink since 2002 — and her face was on a limited-edition line of soda cans. The multiyear campaign was estimated at $50 million, the bulk of it for media placements and promotions around the world, and the remainder split roughly equally between Beyoncé’s fee and what Pepsi called a creative content development fund.

Nicki Minaj signed a promotional deal with Pepsi in February 2012. A commercial was released which included her hit single, "Moment 4 Life", on Sunday, May 6 at approximately 6:06 pm.

NASCAR driver Jeff Gordon was sponsored by Pepsi starting in 1997. The company sponsored Gordon in the Busch Series for two seasons. Since 2001, Pepsi has served as sponsor for Gordon in at least two races per season.

In 2013, New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees and musical group One Direction co-starred in a Pepsi commercial.

Europe and the United Kingdom
For the 1988 and 1989 seasons, Pepsi was the title sponsor of Suzuki's effort in motorcycle road racing's premier class, Grand Prix 500cc. The Pepsi livery was a new addition to grand prix motorcycling, and a change from tobacco sponsors.

During 1988-9, Suzuki also produced a number of road going replicas of the GP bikes, emblazoned with the same Pepsi signage as the works bikes. Due to the livery's association with one of Suzuki's riders, the Texan, Kevin Schwantz, riders today are still producing their own replicas as tribute.

In 1998, the group Spice Girls have been spokeswomen in the international campaign. The ad was featuring the song "Move Over (Generation Next)".

Since 2001, Sakis Rouvas has been a spokesperson in the Greek and Balkan campaign under contract with the headquarters of United Kingdom, being the only Greek artist to have ever been proposed to represent the brand.

Since summer 2009, Inna is the spokeswoman in Romania, Moldova and secondly in Bulgaria, Hungary and Serbia. She promoted Pepsi mostly in Romania, Moldova and Bulgaria through TV commercials and internet adverts. Some commercials have been translated from Romanian into Bulgarian or even Hungarian.

Latin America
In Latin America, Colombian artists Shakira, and Juanes. Mexican Julieta Venegas, Dominican Sammy Sosa, and Puerto Rican Ricky Martin and Daddy Yankee have promoted the soft drink. Spanish-speaking Jaci Velasquez did some commercials. In 2007 RBD promoted the drink in their home country of Mexico.

Asia
As for Asia markets, celebrity, actors and singers Siti Nurhaliza, Show Lo, Leslie Cheung, Jay Chou, Aaron Kwok, Jolin Tsai, Ivy, Rain, Derrick Hamilton, Louis Koo, Nicholas Tse, F4, Faye Wong, Jennylyn Mercado, Kelly Chan, Momo Wu, Bamboo Mañalac, Eraserheads, Jericho Rosales, Matteo Guidicelli, Nicole Hernandez, Jackson Wang, Jao Mapa, Daniel Padilla, Julia Barretto, Kathryn Bernardo, Donny Pangilinan, Belle Mariano and SB19 have appeared in several different advertisements.

In Pakistan, Pepsi sponsors the Pakistan cricket team and many Pakistani celebrities and personalities have been spokespersons for the brand including Hadiqa Kiani, Junaid Jamshed, Shoaib Akhtar, Bob Woolmer, Younus Khan, Kamran Akmal, Adnan Sami,  Reema Khan, Call, and Vital Signs.

In India, Pepsi first used Aamir Khan, model turned actress Mahima Chaudhary and model and ex-Miss World Aishwariya Rai to promote its product. Later it used Amitabh Bachchan, Shahrukh Khan, Kajol, Rani Mukherjee, Manisha Koirala, Saif Ali Khan, Fardeen Khan, Akshay Kumar, Shahid Kapoor (before he entered the movie world), Preity Zinta, John Abraham, Pawan Kalyan, Ram Charan Teja, Priyanka Chopra, and Kareena Kapoor as well as the national cricket team. Ranbir Kapoor and Deepika Padukone were signed for Pepsi's Youngistan campaign which targeted the youth.

Australia
In Australia, the trend has been to use local Australian celebrities to promote Pepsi including Kylie Minogue, Jennifer Hawkins (Miss Universe 2004), Holly Valance, Harry Kewell, Delta Goodrem, Mark Philippoussis and several others including New Zealander Sonny Bill Williams

Spokesperson issues
The first international popstar to become a spokesperson for the drink was Michael Jackson, who along with his brothers (The Jackson 5) advertised Pepsi for "the new generation" in an advertisement featuring a reworking of his song "Billie Jean". However, when filming a second advertisement in 1984, a pyrotechnics stunt went wrong and badly burnt Jackson.

In 1987, David Bowie and Tina Turner joined forces to advertise the soft drink, in an advertisement featuring a reworking of Bowie's hit "Modern Love." The company also agreed to sponsor Bowie's 1987 Glass Spider World Tour. Bowie was accused of sexual assault shortly afterwards, and the company dropped the advertisements immediately. Two years later, Pepsi's attempts to make Madonna a new Pepsi spokesperson ended with the infamous "Like a Prayer" incident when Madonna's video brought charges of anti-Catholicism to the company.

In August 2002, Pepsi pulled a national, 30-second commercial featuring multiplatinum rapper Ludacris from the air after Fox's Bill O'Reilly called for a boycott of the soft drink company. O'Reilly characterized Pepsi as "immoral" for using the rapper, whom he described as a "rap thug." O'Reilly referenced several of Ludacris's lyrics, which he said emphasized a lifestyle that included getting intoxicated, selling drugs, fighting people, and degrading women. The issue resurfaced when Pepsi began to run ads with The Osbournes, a move that Russell Simmons, head of the Hip Hop Summit Action Network categorized as racially insensitive. The company maintained that Ludacris was an inappropriate spokesman because of his usage of language, but Simmons and the HHSAN contended that the Osbournes use of language was just as unacceptable. The final accord reached between the two parties had Pepsi make an annual contribution of $1 million to the Ludacris Foundation (an organization that helps middle and high school students motivate themselves in creative arts) for three years. In addition, the HHSAN helped Pepsi find other community-based organizations to support. Simmons made it clear that he would not accept any money for any charitable organization that he was involved in. While Pepsi offered to shoot a new series of ads on hip-hop history with Ludacris, the rapper declined and additionally stated through Simmons that he did not want his previous ads to re-air.

According to allhiphop.com, in 2005, a rumor spread that the newest spokesperson for Pepsi, Kanye West, was dropped after a comment made against President George W. Bush. Nicole Bradley, public relations manager of Pepsi, clarified that the company's relationship with West had not changed and their marketing will continue as planned.

In 2017, model and television personality Kendall Jenner starred in a commercial premiering the week of April 1 which caused much controversy over social media.

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Keep Victor Beck's entry; Cantor Beck is a renowned cantor in the NY area and beyond, and his entry definitely deserves to be included in Wikipedia.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Gatheright

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. — Trilobite (Talk) 14:54, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Michael Gatheright
As written, it is nothing more than someone's testimonial for a deceased friend. Wikepedia is obviously not the place for such things, and to be honest, I'm genuinely shocked that it has lasted this long (created November 2004). And, to be safe, as aparently the subject was some kind of P-funk artist, google only comes up with just 38 hits, most of them cut-and-paste info. DELETE for non-notability, DELETE for patent nonsense in relation to wikipedia's mission. Jeffrey O. Gustafson 02:54, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, Wikipedia is not a memorial.   [  +t,  +c  ] 03:08, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Userfy if at all possible. Otherwise, delete. -- BD2412 talk 03:25, 2005 Jun 9 (UTC)
 * Delete Not a memorial. --Xcali 04:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Indeed. --Mysidia 07:34, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a memorial. JamesBurns 08:11, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a memorial. Sjakkalle (Check!)  11:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Mary Morgan Keipp

Mary Morgan Keipp (October 25, 1875 in Selma, Alabama – 1961 in Selma, Alabama) was a noted figure in the art photography movement of the early 20th century, exhibiting her photographs of rural Dallas County African-Americans in major exhibitions at the New York Camera Club (December 1899), the Annual Photographic Salon (November 1900), Dudley Galleries in London (October 1901), and the National Arts Club of New York Photo-Secession Exhibition (1902) organized by Alfred Stieglitz.

Born in Selma to a German immigrant father, Keipp began taking photographs as a hobby when she was 16. When she went to nursing school in the Northeast she began exhibiting the photographs she took during her summers at home in Alabama's Black Belt. After graduating, she returned to Selma in 1904 and began her career as a Nurse anesthetist at King Memorial and Selma Baptist Hospitals. With no outlet to exhibit her work locally, the photographs were kept among her private belongings and not seen again until they were donated after her death to the Selma Depot Museum by her nephew's family.

Keipp's photographs depict rural African Americans going about their normal routines in the Reconstruction South. Typical subjects include laundresses, nannies, field hands, and children at play. No evident moralism or artistic propositions color her work, which occupies a place between documentary realism and impressionism.

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