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User talk:AVM

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re: How to Wikify
I apologise that the information given to you seems a little scattered. The wikify warning indicates that the article needs to be edited so it follows our policies of writing style and formatting -- but it just gives you a link to Guide to layout which is just a general summary of how to format a page. But basically we have our own Manual of Style on how a page should be edited. And instead of using basic HTML, we use a special "wiki markup" code to format the text on a Wikipedia page. This wiki markup code is listed on How to edit a page. Feel free to ask more questions about that. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Image policy, citing sources for images, and Image Copyright Tags
When you upload an image such as Image:Lauro.jpg, an image description page is automatically created. On this page, you should list a short description of the image and the source of image.

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Please see our image use policy for more information. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Image Tagging for Image:Arpallanera.jpg
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Image Tagging Image:Lauro.jpg
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Regarding image tagging
AVM, very thank you for your so well response. Will you mention the source to the image after uploading, like, if you uploaded a particular image from a website, then please leave a url also. If you are so sure that the images are not copyrighted at all then use,. If you created a particular image and you want to release it in GFDL, use. If you want to release it in Public domain, use. Please atleast add sources for these three images as soon as possible, else I am afraid of deletion of these images. After adding the sources for these images, if you have any confusion to tag the images propely then please let me know. I may help you to tag them properly. Regards, Shyam  ( T / C ) 18:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Voting Systems
AVM, thanks for the kind words about me edit of voting machines. Most of the technology and voting pages need some serious updates and were lagging pretty well behind. (check out Certification of voting machines, it was recently up for deletion and I think now a more complete and worthy article). Regarding your comment about voting machines vs. Voting systems, I agree with what you are saying. I think that Wikipedia in general may need some reorganization with the terminology relating to elections in general. It is difficult and think some discussion is warranted. With Electronic voting, Voting machine, DRE voting machine, Vote counting system, Voting system, ballot, voting.. it is hard to see just exactly where to draw the line on overlapping. I entirely believe that we need to retain articles like DRE Voting machines (and even plan to add one for Internet voting) rather than rolling them into Electronic voting or voting machines. The article for "voting systems" referres more to methods of elections, but, it is correctly titled according to industry use. Possibly in the future, we may consider Electronic voting as a sub-heading in voting machines. Overall I think maybe Vote counting system is the most out of place, though I did my best to format it and at least make it accurate for now. Also, we absolutely need an article on election recounts. Lastly, there are a bunch of lesser election topics that need to be added. marksense, overvote, undervote, voter intent. As far as any problems with user:Joebeone, I haven't had any yet and I would hope that the community could work together to decide what's best. Feedback is always great, thanks again. 68.50.103.212 18:25, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

U.S. Copyright law
You may be interested to know that Lawrence Lessig, a well known law professor at Stanford, has produced a video describing the lawsuit against Google for it's book search project. The Association of American Publishers filed the suit in response to Google's scanning of thousands of books with the intent to make them searchable online.

The point I think you'd find most interesting is that 75% or so of all the works they wanted to scan were still in copyright, but did not have copyright holders that could be contacted! The video is quite a good overview of the suit and I'd encourage you to watch it (http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/003292.shtml). This is all relevant to Wikipedia because the fair use clause is the only way Wikipedia can host copyrighted material without explicit permission.

The U.S. Copyright Office also released a Report on Orphaned Works recently regarding these works whose copyright holders have disappeared. The report is a good step forward, but there are a few small problems with it. Lawrence Lessig spoke at Rochester Institute of Technology and talked about this briefly at the end of his lecture. You can download it (legally) from http://kryptonite.rh.rit.edu:6969/ through BitTorrent, or stream it through RealPlayer from the links on the top of http://honors.rit.edu/~wiki/index.php/Lessig%40RIT. ~MDD4696 00:27, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Ooh good links, thanks! Mathiastck 21:47, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Venuzuela
Venuzuela is a party to the Berne Convention and as such does not need to formally register works for them to be copyrighted. If you want to know when works published in Venuzuela can be assumed to be public domain in the United States, this table, especially the section on "works published outside the US", is relatively straightforward. --Fastfission 00:53, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

No original research and copyright
Hi AVM, thanks for the kind message on my talk page. Glad I could help a little. Copyright law is a complex and contentious beast. Especially when dealing with its application across national borders. I see that Fastfission noted the Berne convention above, which at least brings some uniform interpretation to international copyright but its still complex. I am not a lawyer but I have been involved in copyright issues in my professional life and I do know a little about Wikipedia policy. If there are any further questions I can answer, please feel free to ask me.

By the way, don't get too put off when other editors note that image you've uploaded need to be tagged. They really aren't trying to be confrontational, they're just trying to protect Wikipedia and you. I think you'll find the vast majority of people here are friendly and helpful, and will be more than willing to work with you to make sure you can contribute about Venezuela. I know I'd like to see better articles about your country's heritage here on Wikipedia. Best, Gw e rnol 22:08, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your note, AVM. Glad it was of some help. :-) SlimVirgin (talk) 11:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Kylie Minogue
It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. Personal attacks and disruptive comments only escalate a situation; please keep calm and remember that action can be taken against other parties if necessary. Attacking another user back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors and leads to general bad feeling. Please try to remain civil with your comments. Thanks! -- getcrunk juice  contribs 23:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

 * In response to your comment on my talk page (When I added the TWO words "world-famous" in the (Kylie Minogue article) introduction, what exactly did you not find agreeable? Do you assert that such statement is false? If not, why in your opinion did I divert from a NPOV for stating such a fact?), I removed "world-famous" from the introduction because it is your point of view. Others may disagree on whether she is actually world-famous or not ("she's not very popular in the United States"). I am a huge fan of hers (happy birthday Kylie!), but it's not WP's place to declare people "world-famous" or not. Secondly, your other addition to the page (began her first steps in the Australian TV at age 12, but first rose to prominence in 1986-1987) is not needed per WP:LEAD, because more details are available in the body of the article. Thirdly, in my opinion, the Carpenters is a very bad article, and I have no clue how someone added the featured article star and got away with it. It really needs cleaning, as you pointed out. I've added a tag to it. -- getcrunk juice  contribs 13:56, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Hola, AVM
Thanks so much for the long explanation of surnames in Latin America on Talk:List of Presidents of Venezuela. The explanation will be helpful to others who may not understand Hispanic surnames or the question, which I apparently didn't spell out clearly enough (I already understand my surnames :-) There are multiple lists and templates of Venezuelan presidents on Wiki. If you look at the template shown at the bottom of the List of Presidents of Venezuela, you'll see that Chávez Frías is listed only as Chávez, while Pérez Jiménez is listed with both surnames. Mixing styles in one template. If you look at the actual list on the main page there, you'll find Hugo Chávez Frías (both surnames) and Rafael Caldera (one surname), rather than Rafael Caldera Rodríguez (both surnames). This is not explained anywhere on the page to the reader unfamiliar with Hispanic surnames. So, again, my question is should we not use a standardized naming convention? That is, either use both surnames, or use only one surname, rather than a mix of style throughout the Presidential articles in Wiki (or at least within the same page or template? You and I understand Hispanic surnames, but others may be confused.  Thanks for helping out !  (Did you know that User:Enano275 shares your interest in working on music articles?) Sandy 00:01, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Saludos, compatriota
Soy super nuevo en este paquete de la Wikipedia, asi que si estoy cometiendo una burrada escribiendo una respuesta a tu mensaje aquí, perdonamela. Pues si, estoy escribiendo (no he terminado) la pagina de Rodrigo Riera. Gracias por tu comentario y buen trabajo con la pagina de Lauro. Sigamos en contacto. ElMosca 23:54, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

i did that with the Lauro page, because is a better format.

Soto
Thanks for the e-mail. It is a pity Soto got duplicated, but some useful contributions have been made. I am not sure about the technical side of what needs to be done, and I will look into this.

--Alan 14:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Hola AVM
Muy bueno quedo el formato de la página de Antonio Lauro, sigamos trabajando en estos artículos relacionados con Venezuela, yo ya he agregado a un compositor que su biografía no se encontraba en internet y tuve que hacer una investigación completa, ese es Lorenzo Herrera, se puede trabajar en conjunto para futuros proyectos, como los géneros musicales de Venezuela, que ya van 13, y los presidentes de Venezuela, para que exista una uniformidad y relación entre los artículos, esto mismo es lo que estoy logrando con los músicos de Venezuela, bueno saludos.

GJRFMorelligu

Angostura bitters
Hey Venezuela! You are probably right about the drink.. A hotel/bar owner told me about 1992 ..when i was employee.. Probably a jokey exaggeration. --maxrspct  in the mud 16:07, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Gracias por las contribuciones
Nuevamente quiero agradecerte por la valiosa contribución a la página de Rodrigo Riera. He estado aplicando pulitura, porque tiene algunos detalles de formato. Como averiguaste toda esa información sobre el catálogo de Don Rodrigo? Estudiaste con él? Saludos, ElMosca 19:44, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

re: hit counter
iirc, there has been much talk about adding hit counters to each articles, but nothing has been implemented yet. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 23:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Crypto restrictions in Venezuela
Hey -- I really don't know any specifics about it, but here is the specific page I got the info from. It includes Venezuela on the toughest list, but doesn't explain how. . Mango juice talk 00:28, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

re:Bot Edits

 * I don't usually comment on what was wrong with the article, but I can comment on what my bot did. My bot only sorts articles for cleanup that have already been flagged by another user. In this edit, an IP address flags the article for cleanup. The next day, my bot changes the tag to the updated version here. You can watch it all transpire in the article history here. I'm fully convinced that there is nothing wrong with my bot's operation. Feel free to contact me with any further questions. Alphachimp  talk  01:07, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Image Question
Thanks for letting me know. I had not received an answer, but I think I can do what I want to do. Ianthegecko 22:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

The Hungarian name for Hungarian...
... is "magyar". In turn, "magyarul" means "in Hungarian". (Alas, agglutinating languages play weird tricks on people unused to them.:)) I've therefore reverted your edit over at Hungarian language, and I think it would be best if you reverted the talkpage too. Thanks for trying to be helpful, though! KissL 15:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Corporation articles
On the English Wikipedia at least, Notability (companies and corporations) suggests that not all corporations necessarily warrant having articles about them simply by virtue of being a corporation. Comparing to Microsoft or other famous corporations is not particularly useful. Articles are less likely to be deleted if they establish something uniquely significant about the topic. I have no idea whether the article you're complaining about did so, and if it did perhaps the deletion should not have occurred. However, the fact that you wrote the article as a favor to a friend already indicates a slight ulterior motive and makes it easier to doubt whether the article was needed. I don't know what policies and practices the Spanish Wikipedia specifically has about this, and some degree of flexibility is allowed between the projects. You're welcome to pursue whatever processes are available there to have the action reviewed by other administrators, if you wish. --Michael Snow 16:16, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikify
Note to Ultimus:

WOW! Please, gimme a break!

Hello. You probably broke all of Wikipedia's records: you took just one minute to discover my newly-added article on Raul Borges, and to tag it as needing Wikification. If you read the article's History, you will notice that I already remarked that it needs wikifying. So, you added nothing that was not known already. But it's Friday, it's late, I'm very tired, and I prefer to work on it later, if you grant me the permission.

Regards, --AVM 03:21, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

 * HIS RESPONSE:
 * If you knew it needed wikifying, why didn't you tag it yourself? If the reason is that you'd rather wikify on your own, then why didn't you tag it with inuse? I really don't know. But let's not turn this into an argument. We're both tired. (|-- UlT  i  MuS  03:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Fredy Reyna is in da house
Hermano, están muy buenos los arreglos al artículo de Fredy Reyna. Yo tengo el libro de su biografía, escrito por Alejandro Bruzual en una caja, en Octubre tendré nuevamente acceso a esa caja y podré expandir el artículo. No he visto aún lo que escribiste acerca de Raúl Borges, así que "Güi Güil com bac". ElMosca 18:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC) ---Ya llegué!!! Tengo el libro y estoy trabajando la pagina del maestro Fredy, ElMosca 23:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Welcome!
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Cuban revolution
I saw your recent edits on the Cuban revolution page. What I did was cut and pasted them into a new section at the bottom of the article that can be a place to explore the influence of the Cuban revolution - as you pointed out, there were guerrilla movements modeled after it. -- takethemud 04:05, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

New Wine Discussion (by Agne) : Input Requested
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Ensamble Gurrufío
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Carmenere

 * Hello. I have been working on the Carmenere article. I saw your comment in the page (Carmenère do you still have the wine labels for Carmenere? I was thinking that we could do a scrolling image box.Char <font color="Red">leen <font color="Green">mer <font color="Blue">ced <sup style="color:blue;"> Talk  20:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)Charleenmerced

 * My name is c_merced@hotmail.com. Thank you so much for your help. We also really need a a picture of the Carmenere grapes. Know where we can get one? Also, how do you get the labels off? I am steam them but they often (very often) break. Also, I just started a Concha y Toro Winery article. Really, just started about 15 minutes ago. If you have any info, please add it. I will add the picture I have of the Casillero del Diablo but I only have a picture of the label in the bottle. Do you have one of the label (or can get one? Also, I can only find Casillero del Diablo and Santa Rita Carmenere where I live. (Connecticut) Do you know any other Carmeneres I should try (so I can special order them)? THanks for your help!<font color="Blue">Char <font color="Red">leen <font color="Green">mer <font color="Blue">ced <sup style="color:blue;"> Talk  02:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)Charleenmerced

Image:Wendy Carlos - Secrets of Synthesis.jpg
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Zimbo Trio
I was disambiguating links to Bass, and could not tell whether the instrument used by Chaves and Collaco was a Double bass or a Bass guitar. Perhaps you could take care of this one. Happy editing! Chris the speller 18:40, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for nailing this one down! Chris the speller 19:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: "communist"
I'm not sure what you mean by "acting like a communist". As far as I can tell, all I've done is add valid information about RCTV's role in a highly chaotic and controversial series of events. Should the Wikipedia silence points of view because some people consider them "communistic"?

If you must know, I'm probably what you'd call a Libertarian Socialist, also known as Anarcho-communist, etc. So, yes, in some sense, I am a communist, though not in the sense of the old Soviet Union.

Eleland 01:29, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Que ladilla con los pichones de abogado
En lugar de mejorar la calidad de los artículos de la Wikipedia, se la pasan encontrando peros con el copyright de las imágenes. Que ladilla! Por qué no escriben algo útil, o editan algunas de las excrecencias que pululan esta "enciclopedia caótica"?

(Gracias por el espacio para ventilar mi rabia) ElMosca 05:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Wine Project Newsletter
Apologies to everyone for this notification being sent out so late, events in real life prevented me from distributing it at the time, and the Wine Project's had a bit of a lull during the Northern Hemsiphere summer. But as the nights draw in, activity should pick up again, and hopefully the next Newsletter will arrive a little more quickly....

The next few weeks are the perfect time to take photos of grapes in the Northern Hemisphere - get your cameras out! FlagSteward 16:00, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Non-books
I agree non-book is a bogus term but it is used in literary circles as a way of referring to self-published manifestos, etc. Maybe you look more into it. .:DavuMaya:. 21:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:The Original Ensamble Gurrufío.jpg
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 * Fixed. I hope this Fair Use Rationale is satisfactory. --AVM 12:27, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

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hi
Hi. I found you in the category of users who can contribute in English and Portuguese. I myself am a native speaker of English, but I'm well on my way to learning Portuguese. Just check out my user page and talk page, and join in any of the discussions. To keep updated, you can even put a watch on my user page, which will automatically watch my talk page. :-) learnportuguese (talk) 15:14, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Sathya Sai Baba movement contains original research
Sathya Sai Baba movement contains original research so the tag that it did not comply to policies was and is justified, but I cannot corrrect it because I was topic banned. I would like to appeal to this topic ban, because I believe that topic banning the only serious contributor from an article for which no serious problems were ever reported is senseless. Can you support me? Andries (talk) 08:28, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, arbcom lifted talk page ban. Andries (talk) 15:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

George Burns
WP:EMBED discusses alternatives to using stark listings that add no further information regarding what is being listed. I placed the list tag on the article because there are sections in it which could be enhanced. For example, the author section, which is just a cold list of titles and years. There is no other information about the books, including publisher information and perhaps a short synopsis. The filmography section has a suggested format (table) which hasn't been put in as of yet. You removed the tag, saying it was "purious." I'm mostly curious about what a "purious" tag is, since that word isn't in my dictionary. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You are right, I was wrong, I apologize. Tag restored. "purious" is a typo, I meant "spurious", but mistakes in edit comments can't be corrected -as far as I know. --AVM (talk) 20:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Your enhancement to Capeverde.jpg
Image:Capeverde.jpg has been marked for deletion. Please save the enhanced version you made for it in your computer, and replace the duplicate on commons, which is the same image but without the adjustments you made, otherwise your work will be lost once the local image is deleted. Cheers, --Waldir talk 11:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see the coincidence... why do you say that Hautala uploaded the image to commons "just in time to avoid permament loss"? It was uploaded in 2004, according to the logs, 3 months before I uploaded my version to english wikipedia (one of my first actions as a newbie in wikipedia, actually). And yes, I like Cesaria's music, but I am actually more fond of the new generation, "heirs" of Orlando Pantera, like Lura, Mayra Andrade and Tcheka :) Cheers, --Waldir talk 22:34, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Gian Piero Reverberi
Thanks for your edits, but please make sure to keep them encyclopedic. Things like "gifted" and "astonishing" are opinions. Check out the core principles for more. Thanks. --AW (talk) 19:59, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

June 2008
Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Legion fi (talk) 01:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And the above NPOV2 warning applies to associated pages (such as Raúl Reyes), too. RN1970 (talk) 15:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, please refrain from making comments like this: . You should always remember to assume good faith. Note that, exactly like adding POV, not assuming good faith features among the warning templates. Secondly, your claim is incorrect (I did live in Peru for 4 years, and Argentina for an additional 3). Unfortunately, your quote attributed to Javier Solana is not supported by the reference you give - indeed, he does not feature anywhere in the article. Perhaps you mixed up Ronald Noble or Sean McCormack (both featured in the article) and Javier Solana? RN1970 (talk) 13:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

 * I wonder why there are so many advocates for the cause of a criminal dictator and tyrant as Fidel Castro and his accomplices, defending him and his "deeds" everywhere in Wikipedia, as if he were a sacred icon. Assume good faith in view of a murderous, ruthless strongman that has taken several thousand lives, devastated additional several million more lives, forced another couple of millions into exile, and tyrannized his country for half a century? More than naive, preposterous. Even more than preposterous, ridiculous.

 * Moreover, the Cuban "leader", as Castro is frequently called in this Encyclopedia, exported his Cuban revolution to ten Latin American countries in the 1960s, fostering, financing, arming and even manning guerrilla warfare until today (i.e. Colombia), threatening to topple democratic governments all over the region for a whole decade and claiming thousands of more lives! Leftist and ignorant WP editors have come to the extreme of completely suppressing all the texts referencing Cuban subversive activities in Latin America, as if they never existed. Other examples abound. In the Augusto Pinochet article, and in practically all the Chilean 1973 coup d’etat articles, there are many references to the CIA’s involvement in Chile, which was undeniably true. But in the same articles, no mention of the thousands of Cuban “advisors” present in Chile at the time is anywhere to be found (what were they doing there, were they tourists?). No mention is allowed of the complete, country-wide disaster that the regime of Allende (another "sacred icon") was leading the country to, under Cuban direction. Is Wikipedia full of commited, persistent comunnists, hiding under WP:NPOV? It sure looks like it. --13:24, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

 * Comment to above here. RN1970 (talk) 01:16, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

"Tourist ad"
I've never had the privilege, and suspect you are quite correct; but as editors, we are responsible for maintaining a neutral point of view on the things we love or hate, not allowing opinions to creep into the articles. -- Orange Mike  |   Talk  17:35, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

August 2008
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you delete or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. If you have a problem with cited material, bring it up on the talk page, don't just impetuously delete it. <font color="green" face="Times New Roman">Veggy  (<font color="orange" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 18:31, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

 * --> Please see my reply to this disrespectful youngster at the article's Discussion page: --AVM (talk) 04:09, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Sibi Blazic
As requested Sibi Blazic now re-created as a 'stub under construction' WhaleyTim (talk) 14:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Now it's up to us editors to find out whether she meets notability criteria, etc. Thinking wishfully, it's very likely that she will, even of it's over the years, and her article will grow accordingly. --AVM (talk) 02:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * A pleasure. It's fairly easy (but not intuitive) to edit a redirect. When you enter a page via a redirect you will see (Redirected from XXXXX) under the title line, where XXXXX is the name of the redirect page. If you then click on the XXXXX it will take you to an editable version of the page.
 * For example, Goyts Bridge will take you to the Errwood Hall page with (Redirected from Goyts Bridge) near the top.
 * Hope that makes sense. Cheers WhaleyTim (talk) 07:54, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Stroh Brewing Company
I replied on the Talk:Stroh page. --DerRichter (talk) 16:33, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Education moment
You feel like laughing at me for claiming the word "vista" is from the Italian.

That's nice and all, but you really should've done some utterly basic research before taking the time to be critical.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/VISTA

Dictionary.com unabridged states: [Origin: 1650–60; < It: a view, n. use of fem. of visto (ptp. of vedere to see < L vidére)]

American Heritage Dictionary: [Italian, from feminine past participle of vedere, to see, from Latin vidēre; see weid- in Indo-European roots.]

Online Etymology Dictionary: '''1644, "a view or prospect," from It. vista "sight, view," noun use of fem. p.p. of vedere "see," from L. videre "to see" '''

So, yes, the Italian word traces its roots back to the Latin, but, the arrangement of letters as "vista" is distinctly and identifiably Italian, and it's unlikely you will find a historical reference that attributes this specific word to another language. The word is used in other languages, but in terms of the accepted etymology of the word, it is attributed to Italian, not the others. Claiming the word is of "Latin origin" is fine, but it misses the point -- we're talking about the word "vista", not the word "videre".

Anyways... I hope your future contributions to the Windows Vista talk page will be to work towards improving the article, not to try and tell other editors they're wrong when a few moments of research will easily disprove what you're saying. Thanks... have a nice day. <span style="color:#1018ff;font-family:Zapfino,Monotype Corsiva;"> Warren -talk- 21:32, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

 * Dear Warren: I gather that it was you who was in need of an additional bit of education. You committed precisely the same sin that you accused me of: lack of research. Have you ever thought of devoting some time to the Spanish language? You see, besides English, I happen to be fluent in Spanish, Italian, French, Portuguese, German, plus some Hebrew. To me, the word Vista is also (and perhaps mainly) a Spanish word, regardless of what Dictionary.com says: I don't believe that website has any authority at all. Please see the proper reference at the DICCIONARIO DE LA LENGUA ESPAÑOLA ... Regards, --AVM (talk) 15:06, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Your comment on my talk page
I would suggest you refrain from making comments like this on my talk page. First, you should always sign your posts on talk-pages - that's the basics. Secondly, I never edited the Fidel Castro, Augusto Pinochet or Salvador Allende article or commented on any edits done there so you clearly must have gotten it wrong somewhere along the way. Checking this page and your edits, I can only suggest you read up on the very basics of NPOV and wiki etiquette (and that's coming from someone who certainly never would vote for Fidel or his regime if the chance ever should arrive). Nevertheless even if writing an article about Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot or whoever, I am a strong believer in citing reliable sources. RN1970 (talk) 01:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

 * First, if I am to refrain from making commnents on your talk page, then you should do likewise, abstain from writing in mine, as you did last June 7, 2008: I was only replying to your post there. Second, I did sign my post, otherwise there's no explanation for the date part ("Regards, --13:23, 6 October 2008 (UTC)"), only the editor had a software glitch that somehow erased my username. And third, obviously you did not understand my message at all. Pity. --AVM (talk) 20:34, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Original research in Indiana Jones
Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. --EEMIV (talk) 11:38, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

 * It's always heartwarming to meet peer fans of SciFi movies. However, what I wrote about the rather fuzzy concepts Mr. Spielberg has on South American Geography is true. It's as if he shot a scene depicting western cowboys chasing both polar bears and kangaroos in the Sahara desert, in the middle of a snowstorm. Something is amiss, something doesn't make sense.

 * It has always puzzled me when someone requires a "reliable source" for texts in an article about a book, a recording, or a movie. Are not these (media) considered to be the primary, foremost (i.e., reliable) sources themselves? If a movie or a book are readily viewable, say, in a Library, why should one disregard them and look elsewhere for someone's written opinions or reviews instead? To read a book, to listen to a recording, or to watch a movie, and write about what one has read, heard, or seen, just cannot be regarded as "original research", as anyone can verify the validity of any assertions by doing just the same: read, hear, or watch it (just IT, and no other materials). That is, by the way, one of the basic pillars of the Scientific Method: the ability to duplicate any observation anywhere, anytime, given the proper conditions. If you have the time and patience, I'd appreciate your comments on the WP:NOR policy in view of the above reasoning. Perhaps it ought to be revised, or expanded? Regards, --AVM (talk) 22:55, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Latin America's Business Figures
I've PRODded it. PamD (talk) 09:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Gee, PamD, thanks! Your user page and contributions (and you yourself!) are impressive, even awesome I would say. --AVM (talk) 21:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Manuel Barrueco snapshot.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Manuel Barrueco snapshot.jpg. I noticed the description page specifies that the media is being used under a claim of fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first non-free content criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed media could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this media is not replaceable, please:

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Protest against your message about File:Manuel Barrueco snapshot.jpg
Hello. I'm writing in your talk page because I want to protest about your (Stifle) objection to File:Manuel Barrueco snapshot.jpg which I uploaded long ago. Either the rules for non-free images have been changing, or someone is over-zealous. I wonder, if you find the image above to be objectionable, then why don't you also aim your artillery toward File:Ninth Doctor.jpg, for example? It's exactly the same situation.

Moreover, if you think that freely licensed media could reasonably be found for artist Manuel Barrueco, then go ahead and find it yourself. I just couldn't care less. I do believe you (and several other destructive admins) have been overdoing your police work against illustrations in Wikipedia. You obviously would prefer to have a text-only encyclopedia. Shame on you!

--AVM (talk) 14:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No, we'd prefer to have a free encyclopedia. Non-free images of people who are still alive are generally not permitted (see foundation:resolution:licensing policy). If you feel another image should be deleted, please tag it accordingly. Stifle (talk) 15:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Well anyone attending the Peabody Institute would be in a good position to create a free licensed photo of him for starters. You and me might not be in such a position, but the fact that it's reasonably possible is all that's required per policy to deny the use of a non-free image in this case. The other image you point out is used to depict a fictional character, not a real person. I know there are those who argue that an "out of character" photo of the actor will serve the same purpose, but I don't believe that interpretation is quite as widely accepted. Either way Wikipedia is a big place, the fact that someone is pointing out a problem in one place and not another doesn't mean you have been somehow singled out, it's just that it would take one person or group a rater long time to adress all potential issues with all the 2,716,084 articles and 831,863 files currenly on the site (pluss however many hundreds are added daily). People simply adress things as they encounter them, there is no way to guarantee a 100% consistent approach in a project of this scale. --Sherool (talk) 16:45, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Copyrights
In File talk:Millais - Ophelia.jpg, you said that any discussion of copyright pertaining to an image from 1852 is nonsense because surely the concept of 'copyright' isn't that old.

In fact, the concept of copyright is a good 140 years older than that - read our articles on copyright and the history of copyright. The Statute of Anne is generally held to be the first copyright law, and it's from 1709/1710.

That said, the image in question is public domain - that is, no longer within copyright - because Millais died in 1896, which is more than 70 years ago. DS (talk) 15:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

You maybe interested in the Article Rescue Squadron

I notice that you are part of Category:Inclusionist_Wikipedians. I would like you to consider joining the Article Rescue Squadron. Rescue Squadron members are focused on rescuing articles for deletion, that might otherwise be lost forever. I think you will find our project matches your vision of Wikipedia.

Ikip (talk) 20:28, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Lang Lang, aka Bang Bang
The section you reinstated (Bang Bang) is already present in the article, paragraph 3 of the Performing and Recording career. I'm watching the article, as I wrote that section originally and want to make sure it's not removed.THD3 (talk) 18:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Milla Jovovich
Well, the question of "what to write in case the person has more than one nationality" would only exist if we knew for sure that Jovovich (or someone else) is a dual citizen. I guess in that case we ought to write both, but we don't know for sure that Jovovich has more than the one at this point. What I could find online - A 1991 interview for the Philadelphia Inquirer with Jovovich states/quotes "Although not a US citizen, "I think of myself as an American, she says". A 1994 piece for the Houston Press states she's "interrupting her band's tour for two days so that she and her mother can be sworn in as U.S. citizens the next morning, something they've waited for since applying for citizenship in 1985." The same piece says "She grew up in California as a Russian citizen under the blanket of Reagan's Evil Empire rhetoric". All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 18:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Resident Evil Milla.jpg)
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Sucralose
A quick follow-up regarding your hidden comment if you're puzzled: 1,000 mg = 1 g = 0.001 kg (A ratio of 1:1000). —Sladen (talk) 13:58, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Gee, you are absolutely right! My mistake --I guess I was just too sleepy. From now on, I'll abide by this new rule: "Thou shalt not edit anything after 10PM, lest thou shalt commit embarrassing, evil errors or misstatements!" - Thanks, --AVM (talk) 17:47, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries, glad it was useful! —Sladen (talk) 22:51, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Your minogue rant
Please, don't get your censorship knickers in a twist. A valid point has been raised, this is an online Encyclopedia. If you don't like it: tough. Read WP:BLP and WP:CENSORED Applytheneed1 (talk) 14:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

File:DPRK rally.jpg
No one is talking about Wikipedia getting sued, I have no idea where you're getting that idea from. The issue is that the use of the image does not meet our non-free content criteria. J Milburn (talk) 19:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Not true. I'm talking about it, so that makes one. And the idea is present in many of WP's criteria, policies, and rules, and especially so in the one you mention. --AVM (talk) 19:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Please don't mark substantial edits as minor
Please remember to mark your edits as minor if (and only if) they genuinely are minor edits (see Help:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearranging of text without modifying content should be flagged as a 'minor edit.'  JRSP (talk) 03:20, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the advice, JRSP. My behavior has intended quite the opposite effect: out of modesty, when I've thought an edit of mine does not constitute a major, worthy addition of useful information to an article, I've often marked it as 'minor'. I was under the impression that cleaning an article of B.S., false assertions, downright lies, mistakes, and of irrelevant, unsourced or NPOV-violating taxts was not to be thought of as 'major' editing and marked accordingly, as doing so could be considered either poor etiquette, or as a pretentious stance. I'll abide by your guidance in the future. Regards, --AVM (talk) 18:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikinazi bullshit
"If you dared to write a comment like "most of the film has a poor lighting" or "some critices have pointed out the film is too dark", then in no time some nitwit would come along and tag your edit as being unsourced, or requiring a citation, or worse, delete it. This Encyclopedia doesn't trust its own editors, only trusts any soul that has managed to put such comments into a printed publication, or into a website regarded as a 'reliable source'. That steel-armored policy just might be necessary, but I'm sick of it."

Amen, brother! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.49.126 (talk) 03:48, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

LAST EDIT
This is probably my last edit, per the following reasoning:

<font color="green" face="Tahoma"> ...Which reminds me of an old itch, the scandalous contrast between fact and opinion in this encyclopedia. In Wikipedia opinions (sustained by references, namely, by other's opinions) seem to be valued better than facts, an impression that is frequently reinforced by the language used in discussions like this one. I remind you of the small detail that you have still not addressed the Third item in my preliminary response: (sic)"...the objective of having Wikipedia tell the truth, which doesn't appear to be among the most important objectives or goals of this Encyclopedia (if it is, I'd appreciate anyone's help and tell me about it)...." Regards, --AVM (talk) 19:23, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Wikipedia -for better or worse- is not that concerned with truth.
 * The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true.Likeminas (talk) 20:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

 * I see. Then, very regrettably, Wikipedia is crippled from its birth, suffering from an inherent, incurable disease: its disregard for truth. Such policies theoretically allow the building of articles comprised mainly of false contents, simply by providing ample references that in turn are false, claiming they are "reliable sources". And that is just what might be happening right now to a sizable proportion of the 3-million-plus articles, making Wikipedia unreliable per se. That's very saddening indeed. I just knew Wikipedia was too good to be true: now, evidently, it is true that it is not that good after all. It's more than disappointing, more than dismal: it's just nauseating. After more than 2,500 edits, I feel like quitting: I have stopped being a loyal believer. --AVM (talk) 13:14, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

 * I'm sorry you feel that way but its been in our core policies all along. Anyway, "truth" isn't as clearcut as you seem to think - there are (at least) two sides to every story you know.·Maunus· ƛ · 13:18, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I have added in my user page heading (repeated here):

<font color="#FF3333" face="Tahoma">'''THIS USER HAS LOST ALL BELIEF IN THE TRUSTWORTHINESS OF WIKIPEDIA, AN ENCYCLOPEDIA WHERE DISREGARD FOR THE TRUTH REIGNS. ON THE CONTRARY, WILL HENCEFORTH REGARD MOST WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES WITH SUSPICION, OR AT LEAST, WITH CAUTION. ACCORDINGLY, EDITING OF ARTICLES HAS STOPPED INDEFINITELY, UP TO WHEN SOME HOPE RETURNS THAT IT CAN BE TRUSTED -IF EVER. REASONS: THIS DISAPPOINTING DISCUSSION AND WP:V, WHICH I DO NOT AGREE WITH. TO ME, TRUTH IS OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE, FAR ABOVE VERIFIABILITY. IT'S A PITY WIKIPEDIA DOES NOT BELIEVE IN TRUTH.'''

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As matters stand, the slogan to use could well be WIKIPEDIA, THE ENCYCLOPEDIA THAT CANNOT BE TRUSTED.

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VERITAS IUSSU AEQUITAS, --AVM (talk) 20:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

WHAT NERVE YOU HAVE, USER 'ASPECTS'
I am sick and tired of Wikipedia stupidity. That's why I quit as an editor, promising not to edit articles any longer. Now that doesn't prevent me to reply to your destructive edits:

1) YOU DELETED REFERENCES IN THER RESPECTIVE ARTICLES TO PICTURES I HAD UPLOADED WHICH WERE FULLY COMPLIANT OF THE RULES IN FORCE AT THE MOMENT, NAMELY:
 * File:Inva Mula as Gilda.jpg,
 * File:Oscar Castro-Neves(retouched).jpg,
 * File:Eliane Elias in Concert.jpg, and
 * Bolling.jpg

2) YOU TAGGED THE ABOVE PICTURE FILES WITH THE di-orphaned fair use (date=21 August 2009) TAG, AS IF YOU WERE AN INNOCENT, ZEALOUS EDITOR, UNAWARE OF THE FACT THAT YOU YOURSELF, AND NO OTHER, CAUSED THE "ORPHAN" STATUS; and

3) YOU THEN HAD THE NERVE TO WRITE HERE IN MY TALK PAGE TO WARN ME THAT SUCH IMAGES WILL BE DELETED "BECAUSE THEY ARE ORPHANED". WHAT HYPOCRISY! To think someone gave you a Barnstar (that is, a star from the barn's flock?) for doing such dirty work!

Mr. "Aspects", you go ahead and delete what you please, destroy what you please. clobber what you please. I just couldn't care less. And last, GO TO HELL. Just don't give me the usual WP:Civility sermon, it won't do any difference (block me, reprimand me, I just won't mind, either): just go to hell. --AVM (talk) 18:36, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

User:Aspects
Wow, looks like you are having the same problem with that editor I had - "Oh my, the non-free image you uploaded has been orphaned" and Aspects is the orphaner.--Nobunaga24 (talk) 02:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Blocked
For this personal attack you are now blocked for 48 hours. Garion96 (talk) 12:44, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * He is not an administrator. For the rest, do not make personal attacks anywhere in Wikipedia. Comment on content, not on the contributor. Garion96 (talk) 13:23, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You call that creep "a contributor"? You're nuts! --AVM (talk) 14:12, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * And for that latest comment above you are now blocked for a week. Garion96 (talk) 12:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Garion96, how can you call yourself an Administrator when you behave like an incompetent schoolteacher punishing little children to go stand in a corner, wearing a cap which reads "DUNCE"? Instead of blindly using silly measures such as blocking me (believe me, I just couldn't care less: if you bothered to notice, I quit working in exchange for nothing except frustration), why don't you do a little research in order to find the causes of the problem, instead of the consequences? The latter are quite simple: I, along with a sizable number of editors, are quite upset at the wrongdoings of User:Aspects, who instead of getting a reprimand for his/her destructive and hypocritical behaviour, even gets praised! A bleak future awaits Wikipedia if ill-motivated wrongdoers & destroyers like that one keep being hailed, while true contributors are harassed, criticized, reprimanded, and otherwise discouraged. --AVM (talk) 18:06, 02 December 2009 (UTC)

Deletions
You have to give me more than that. I think I only deleted images which were already on Commons. I don't really have to post botlike messages on your talk for that. Garion96 (talk) 20:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Important Wine Project discussion needs input!
Hello, the Wine Project is currently in the process of hammering out a proposed policy relating to Notability (wine topics). As Wikipedia and its wine coverage continues to grow, the need for a clear, concise guideline on how Wikipedia's notability policies such as WP:CORP, WP:SIGCOV and WP:NOTE relate to wine articles has emerged. Please review the proposed policy and take part in the talk page discussion Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(wine_topics). All input and view points are welcomed. AgneCheese/Wine 21:39, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Response to questionable barnstar
Hello, your post on my talkpage took me by surprise, particularly since the barnstar was given over two months ago. Until I looked at the editor's contributions around the time of me giving the barnstar here I didn't even remember him or why I gave it, but that is besides the point. I gave it because he had improved tables and added release sections to many album articles that I regularly monitor. I don't doubt or endorse your opinion of this editor but my recognition had nothing to do with the issues that you brought up. I do understand your frustration at seeing someone that you believe is harming the project receiving kudos, but when I award a barnstar (which is not all that frequently) it is normally just for something that I notice, not their whole editing history. J04n(talk page) 12:57, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

March 2010
You have been blocked from editing for a period of one month for '''continuing personal attacks and harassment. Per this edit, even if you had no previous such blocks. But you have two previous such blocks, and are not getting the message that this is unacceptable behaviour here.'''. Please stop. You are welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Rodhull andemu  23:48, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

REPLY: BUT THEN A VANDAL'S BEHAVIOUR IS ACCEPTABLE HERE? ALL I HAVE DONE IS TO PINPOINT A PROBLEM, WHERE A MENTALLY ILL EDITOR IS DETERMINED TO OBLITERATE IMAGES FROM THIS ENCYCLOPEDIA, CALLING HIM WHAT HE IS, AND NOTHING ELSE. I AM REALLY AMUSED BY THE FACT THAT YOU YOUSELF HAVE BEEN ONE OF HIS RECENT VICTIMS. BUT YOU CALL MY JUST REACTION "HARASSMENT", WHILE THE REAL "HARASSER" IS User:Aspects, AS AMPLE EVIDENCE SHOWS, IF YOU REALLY CARE TO LOOK AT IT. SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG HERE, WHERE DESTRUCTIVE EDITORS GET HAILED WHILE VALUABLE CONTRIBUTORS GET (FIRST) HARASSED, AND (SECOND) REPRIMANDED. GOOD RIDDANCE! (OR, SEE IF I CARE BEING BLOCKED! - JUST LOOK AT MY USER'S PAGE - I'M INACTIVE, I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF WP NONSENSE!)--AVM (talk) 00:41, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * If this is request to be unblocked, please format it as suggested above. Meanwhile, shouting in ALLCAPS isn't going to achieve anything but satisfying your own temper tantrums, and neither is calling other editors "mentally ill" . If you are unblocked, there are plenty of venues for complaint, but meanwhile, this is going nowhere and I would have no problem withdrawing your access to this page for the duration of your block. Rodhull  andemu  00:53, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

 * You really refuse to read, huh? Get this: I really don't care whether you administer or not that terrible punishment, much in a 5th-grade style, of blocking editors, the WP equivalent of a mediocre teacher sending bad-behaving pupils to sit in a corner and making them wear a pointed hat with a "DUNCE" sign on it. At least, that's what you're threatening me that you, an all-powerful Admin, can do if I don't behave (yes, I know Wikipedia is not a Democracy -- I've been getting the feel of what it really is). And, may I ask, just what are you planning to do with the guy that started all this, HARASSING contributors by treacherously clobbering their carefully uploaded images? Do you think they ENJOY being treated like that? Did YOU like being treated like that, twice? Oops! -- excuse me for using the offensive word "guy" to refer to that Distinguished Contributor, deserving all the stars there are, and then some! Keep up the good work! --AVM (talk) 01:55, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The fact that you are not asking for an unblock is persuasive, and your petulance does you no favours. It's up to you whether you do that, but while you continue to proselytise here without asking for an unblock, the more likely it is that your access to this page will be removed, and you will then have to make a case to the Arbitration Committee. You have the right to an independent review of your block by an uninvolved administrator, and that is where your next step lies. But whingeing is unlikely to get you unblocked. Rodhull  andemu  02:03, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

The above is exemplary of the motives why thousands of formerly enthusiastic and valuable wikipedians have abandoned the project altogether. One would expect Wikipedia Administrators on average to be just, impartial, benevolent individuals, willing to help in solving disputes for the benefit of a common cause. In addition, one would expect them to be individuals of high intelligence and ethical values. Cases like (for example) what Admin EncMstr did to editor JazzCarnival (see User_talk:JazzCarnival), namely, to block him permanently as a result of a confrontation with User:Aspects (a.k.a. "The Tireless Destroyer" as he proudly and shamelessly announces in his User Page), one of many that same ********* has caused with no sign of anyone willing to discipline him, is a clear sign that the above expectations are a fiction. I will not use adjectives to qualify User:EncMstr, as doing so would no doubt be regarded, again, as a personal attack. But I guess I'm entitled to believe that's just an example of an arbitrary, totalitarian, even despotic attitude which I find absolutely unacceptable. I wonder if Mr. Wales is aware of the phenomenon, and of the damage it is causing.

Who loses?

One gets the feeling that Admins somewhere got the notion that contributors have a constant, unfaltering craving to create or edit articles, as a vital necessity, so that blocking them ought to be a terrible loss, a tough, almost unbearable penalty. Far from the truth. So, blocking individual editors does not harm them (us) in any way. But it does harm Wikipedia. As I said before, valuable contributors are routinely reprimanded or otherwise discouraged, while dubious editors with dubious motives and still more dubious "contributions" are prized. Obviously, though Wikipedia is already lurching, it will not capsize, as it has enough critical mass and speed already; but --it will always be far from an ideal, will always lack luster, authority, and reliability. That is why I already quit as an editor, so your threats to me are meaningless.

You have said that I was not getting the message. Conversely, I have no illusions about the effects of the above reasoning. My experience with, say, traffic policemen shows that when intelligence is lacking, other qualities or behaviors usually emerge as a substitute for it, as we are witnessing here in Wikipedia (authoritarianism, pontification, sticking to "the book", that is, to the rules (disregarding even the WP:IAR and WP:BURO directives), punitive practices, etc., --not necessarily for the good of the situation, or of the project, or of the majority (no personal offence intended). It's a pity. Adieu., --AVM (talk) 19:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Strange Edit
Yeah, why? You're not an arbitrator, the case is closed and Rodhullandemu is blocked. No good reason whatsoever for that edit that I can see. Doc  talk  21:54, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You're so right, my mistake. I just wanted to express my approval for withdrawing his Admin status, as I felt mistreated by him some time ago. Only, I did it in the wrong place. I was just going to revert my edit before anyone noticed, but you beat me to it. Sorry! --22:10, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Mistreated? The guy took it easy on you, considering your actions. ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 22:56, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Baloney. I don't need reprimands from yet another abusive Admin (obviously the supply is endless), who probably (and likewise) thinks that he owns the place, nor have I any desire to enter into further arguments. I'm tired of such rubbish, and sick of it. --AVM (talk) 12:32, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * There once was a man who went to his therapist. He said "Doc, I have three major problems in my life: my son, my wife and my boss."  The therapist said "ok then, let's see what we can do about you". ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 14:38, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Clarify
First, I'm not trying to piss you off, nor reprimand you. My roles as an admin are dual: assist and protect. I've spent a couple of hours going over the entire sequence that led to your blocking, and then your additional interaction with the blocking admin. Again, this is not to argue, fight, or whatever. I have done this because at this point it appears you still do not see what got you blocked - it certainly was not the choice of an admin, it was a vicious violation of Wikipedia policies - any admin would have been forced to do the same. Under WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA, all editors must work collegially, and comment on content and never who wrote the content. This means that you cannot call someone an "asshole", a "retard", or anything similar. Accordingly, the comment linked in your original block notice was not just a violation of those policies, it was a massive violation. Nobody wanted to block you, and let me state unequivocally that any admin who takes pleasure in blocking anyone should not be an admin. You however forced their hand, and any admin who saw it and did not block you for such a vile attack should have been removed from being an admin.

Honestly, on a community-based project such as this, it makes no difference if the other person was a vandal, someone else's actions or incivility never excuse your own incivility, even though it does explain it. In the situation above, you could easily have been unblocked in a couple of days if you had submitted the unblock request as per the guide to appealing blocks. Instead, you chose a different path that simply made you more angry. This is the internet: don't get angry because stupid things happen on the internet every day. ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 15:34, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

 * A sincere Thank You for the above clarification. As you can see, I took a long leave before looking at it, and now, for once in a long time, I feel relieved, consoled —and protected. The relief comes from the realization that there are sentient beings, namely, there is intelligence in Wikipedia, after all. That means there's hope, too. Regards, --AVM (talk) 23:43, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

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Apologies
Please accept my apologies. I have restored your version for you. Thanks for helping Wikipedia! Happy Editing! Cheers!Ramaksoud2000 (talk) 16:35, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

I JUST LOVE THIS ONE - I knew I was right all the time
I've just found this jewel in CIRCULAR:

 * "Do not use articles from Wikipedia as sources."
 * "Content from a Wikipedia article is not considered reliable..."

Somehow I knew I was right all the time. --AVM (talk) 19:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

May 2013
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 * Bullshit. This toddler purports to give me sermons, but he instead does as he pleases, contrary to his preaching. Also, he "welcomes" me, an editor that has nearly EIGHT YEARS in this encyclopedia! When he finds he's "in disagreement" with an edit that troubles him (because it's been done to an article he considers as his), he doesn't "take it to the Talk Page", he just boldly (and rudely) reverts it, period. --Some example! Sadly, Wikipedia is full of hypocritical editors such as this one. --AVM (talk) 21:14, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 9 May 2014
A long time ago, someone (not me) decided to redirect my original User Page to my Talk Page, purportedly "to protect it". Whoever did that, did not bother to ask for my permission, not even to notify me of such action.

I did not mind too much at the time, but after some years I believe I would like to regain control of the contents of my User Page again and to recover its contents, as it was before being redirected.

Thank you. --AVM (talk) 17:01, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

AVM (talk) 17:01, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: I've left a note at c:User talk:Rodhullandemu. But this is really a WP:RFPP matter. -- Red rose64 (talk) 21:03, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, I've unprotected the page. -- Red rose64 (talk) 10:15, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'll see to it that it gets more civilized in the future. Regards, AVM (talk) 20:35, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

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Precious
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:25, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Two years ago, you were recipient no. 1824 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

2019
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Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:22, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
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NOTE about my alleged "Conflict of Interest" in relation to the SMARTMATIC article.
I am a retired Computer Professional, and have no work, professional, or any other relationship with the SMARTMATIC group. But I happen to have worked previously in election computer technology since the early 1980's, and have been an advisor to a few relevant figures active in the Elections endeavor, so I always followed with keen interest the change brought about by a young enterprise called Smartmatic, who played an important but uncomfortable role in the political scene in the Venezuela of early 2000's. Now, who really had a Conflict of Interest with the Smartmatic article, which oddly passed unseen for a few years under the sight of Wikipedia authorities, was a User by the name User:ZiaLater who quite literally took possession of the article, established his own rules for anyone daring to contradict his POVs, affixing tags and notices at will, and naming other users as suspects of violating Wikipedia standards. Such extraordinary "zeal" (or interest), measured in terms of number of edits, the length of his interventions, discussions and justifications, etc. seemed abnormal, so much that it led to believe such "user" was not a person, but a team of editors being paid to disparage, to pollute, to create fake references (with no relation to the subject being covered, thus giving a false impression of authenticity, etc.) --all aiming at discrediting, building a bad reputation, at harming the company called SAMRTMATIC the most--- while posing as a flawless contributor, abiding to Wikipedia rules and customs --or even serving as a guardian thereof.

The fact that "he" (or, this hypothetical group of rogue editors) is now retired, seems to indicate a disciplinary measure was applied (at last!), but still there are remains or consequences, such as naming some editors (myself included) in a list of banished users.

If YOU, gentle editor, feel my latest two edits to the SMARTMATIC article merit being reversed, so be it, but be reminded--- such notice should be removed, as it was placed in the article for sheer malice only. Thank you. --AVM (talk) 23:05, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

 * Don't post things like the above on article talkpages - you can explain your edits without posting lengthy attacks on other editors or making accusations about shadowy groups. It's not really appropriate here either. Zialater hasn't edited in more than six months. If you have specific evidence of a shared account or a conflict of interest, you will need to provide evidence, and it should go to Arbcom, not on the article talkpage.  Acroterion   (talk)   00:15, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary
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I'd be interested to know if the statement "provides the wood for the frames" is true. Seems unlikely. - Marshman 02:45, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree; the assertion is now gone. --Theo (Talk) 16:15, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Salt in the Bible

The role of salt in the Bible is relevant to understanding Hebrew society during the Old Testament and New Testament periods. Salt is a necessity of life and was a mineral that was used since ancient times in many cultures as a seasoning, a preservative, a disinfectant, a component of ceremonial offerings, and as a unit of exchange. The Bible contains numerous references to salt. In various contexts, it is used metaphorically to signify permanence, loyalty, durability, fidelity, usefulness, value, and purification.

Salt sources in Ancient Israel
The main source of salt in the region was the area of the Dead Sea, especially the massive salt cliffs of Jebel Usdum, about 7 mi long. The face of the ridge is constantly changing as weather interacts with the rock salt. highlights the importance of the Dead Sea's salt.

The Hebrew people harvested salt by pouring sea water into pits and letting the water evaporate until only salt was left. They used the mineral for seasoning and as a preservative. In addition, salt was used to disinfect wounds. In King Abijah referred to God's covenant promise to David that he will not lack a man to seat on Israel's throne as a salt covenant, a covenant that can never be broken.

Hebrew Bible

The fate of Lot's wife, being turned to a pillar of salt, is found in. This is the reason for the naming of the pillar on Mount Sodom, which is often called "Lot's Wife".

and illustrate the requirement of salt as part of ancient Hebrew religious sacrifices. Leviticus 2:13 reads: "And every offering of your grain offering you shall season with salt; you shall not allow the salt of the covenant of your God to be lacking from your grain offering. With all your offerings you shall offer salt."

Salt was cast on the burnt offering (Ezekiel ) and was part of the incense (Exodus ). Part of the temple offering included salt (Ezra ).

Salt was widely and variably used as a symbol and sacred sign in ancient Israel and  illustrate salt as a covenant of friendship. In cultures throughout the region, the eating of salt is a sign of friendship. Salt land is a metaphorical name for a desolate no man's land, as attested in, , and. The land of defeated cities was salted to consecrate them to a god and curse their re-population, as illustrated in.

Newborn babies were rubbed with salt. A reference to this practice is in Ezekiel : "As for your nativity, on the day you were born your navel cord was not cut, nor were you washed in water to cleanse you; you were not rubbed with salt nor wrapped in swaddling cloths."

New Testament
The Salt and Light passages in the Sermon on the Mount make reference to salt. Matthew's account differs slightly from that of Luke and Mark. Matthew 5:13 refers to his disciples as "the salt of the earth." This meaning is paralleled in the following verse, Matthew 5:14, in the symbolism of the "light of the world." Another view is that the Salt and Light passages refer to a duality of roles in the disciples to be like a light from a city, viewable from all over the world, and to be spread out as salt is: to congregate and spread. Matthew, Mark, and Luke accord in the discussion of salt "that has lost its taste." This is a reference to salt that is contaminated with other minerals, causing a weakness in flavor or a bland unpleasant taste. It may be a symbolic reference to the possibility of abandoning or deviating from the gospel, especially due to the adulteration of its teachings. Another interpretation is that in a world filled with sin and deceit, it is possible for one to become contaminated and thus unsuccessful at being an effective disciple. Therefore, this verse serves as a warning for disciples to be on their guard; to be in the world, but not of the world.

speaks about the salting of the condemned, which is a rhetorical device indicating the severity of the punishment. reads in part: "Have salt in yourselves, and have peace with one another." The salt in this verse refers to the goodwill that "seasons" positive relationships between people. This is also a play on the covenant of salt, indicating friendship and compassion. Colossians 4:6 uses the metaphor of salt seasoning speech to indicate speaking with intelligence and consideration.

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IMCB may refer to:

 * International Medical Commission on Bhopal
 * Institute of Molecular and Cell Biology (disambiguation)
 * Independent Mobile Classification Board, a defunct NGO replaced by the British Board of Film Classification

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Nieman Fellowship

The Nieman Fellowship is a fellowship from the Nieman Foundation for Journalism at Harvard University. It awards multiple types of fellowships.

Nieman Fellowships for journalists
A Nieman Fellowship is an award given to journalists by the Nieman Foundation for Journalism at Harvard University. The fellowship is a transformative learning opportunity open to candidates working in all media in every country around the world.

"Nieman Fellowships are awarded to reporters, editors, photographers, producers, filmmakers, editorial writers, cartoonists, digital innovators and other journalists with at least five years of full-time, professional experience in the news media.

At Harvard, Nieman Fellows attend seminars, shop talks, master classes and journalism conferences designed to strengthen their professional skills and leadership capabilities. Those selected for the program spend two full semesters at Harvard auditing classes with some of the university's greatest thinkers, participating in Nieman events and collaborating with peers. The fellowship home is at Lippmann House in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

Each fellow is free to design an individual course of study. Some pursue classes in a reporting specialty. Others explore the breadth of Harvard's schools and departments. With the knowledge they gain on campus and the relationships they build, fellows often return to work as journalism entrepreneurs, industry innovators and top managers in their newsrooms."

Some two dozen fellowships are awarded annually, half to Americans and half to non-Americans.

As part of each class, specialized fellowships are also available:
 * The Nieman-Berkman Fellowship in Journalism Innovation
 * The Abrams Nieman Fellowship for Local Investigative Journalism (open to U.S. candidates)
 * The Knight Visiting Nieman Fellowships

Additionally, "during years in which a watchdog journalist or investigative reporter from the United States is selected for a fellowship from the general application pool, the Nieman Foundation may offer the Murrey Marder Fellowship in Watchdog Reporting."

The Nieman–Berkman Fellowship in Journalism Innovation
This joint fellowship, awarded for the first time in 2012, is a joint fellowship between the Nieman Foundation and the Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society that is awarded to U.S and international candidates with project proposals related to innovation in journalism.

The Abrams Nieman Fellowship for Local Investigative Journalism
Funded by the Abrams Foundation, the Abrams Nieman Fellowship for Local Investigative Journalism was created in 2018 to bolster deeply reported local and regional news stories in underserved areas throughout the United States. Candidates selected for the fellowship spend two semesters at Harvard and then receive financial support for up to nine months of fieldwork to develop an investigative project that will provide better, more in-depth coverage of issues important to the communities they serve.

The Knight Visiting Nieman Fellowship
Funded by the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, this fellowship offers a short-term research opportunity to individuals interested in working on special projects designed to advance journalism in some new way. Candidates need not be practicing journalists, but must demonstrate the ways in which their work at Harvard and the Nieman Foundation may improve the prospects for journalism's future. This may be related to research, programming, design, financial strategies or another topic. Both U.S. and international applicants are invited to apply.

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Shaheed Minar, Kolkata

The Shaheed Minar (English: Martyrs' Monument), formerly known as the Ochterlony Monument, is a monument in Kolkata that was erected in 1828 in memory of Major-general Sir David Ochterlony, commander of the British East India Company, to commemorate both his successful defense of Delhi against the Marathas in 1804 and the victory of the East India Company’s armed forces over the Gurkhas in the Anglo-Nepalese War, also known as the Gurkha War. The monument was designed by J.P. Parker and paid for from public funds.

On 9 August 1969, it was rededicated to the memory of the martyrs of the Indian freedom movement and renamed the "Shaheed Minar," which means "martyrs' monument" in both Bengali and Hindi, by the then United Front Government in memory of the martyrs of the Indian independence movement. The present government has decided to illuminate the tower during evenings and allow visitors to the top. The last people to have been up there were former governor Gopal Krishna Gandhi and his family.

Features
Known as the "Cloud kissing Monument" by Mark Twain, the Shaheed Minar is located at Esplanade in Central Kolkata in the north-east facet of the Maidan. The tower is 48 m high. It has a foundation based on the Egyptian style. The column is a combination of styles with a classical fluted column, a Syrian upper portion, and a Turkish dome. It has two balconies at the top. The top floor of the minar is accessible by a serpentine staircase, a total of 223 steps. It has a total of 218 steps until the top of the tower. The monument was erected by Burn & Company.

Shaheed Minar Maidan
The vast field to the south of Shaheed Minar, is known as the Shaheed Minar Maidan or the Brigade Ground. It has a history of being the site of political rallies and fairs. The first political meeting on the ground was presided over by Rabindranath Tagore to condemn the killing of a youth in Hijli by the British in 1931. The central bus terminus of the city is around the monument.

Public use
In 1997, a tourist jumped off the lower balcony of the monument. Since then, police permission is required to climb the steps of the monument. Local residents must submit proof of address and a photo ID at the Lalbazar Police Headquarters, while out-of-town tourists must submit documents from their hotel, and foreigners must submit a copy of their passport.

The monument offers a bird's-eye view of the city. The government has planned to open the monument to the public, after the renovation work is completed. The renovation work was started in late 2011 and will be completed in two phases. The first phase was scheduled to be completed by June 15, 2012, and is said to cost about ₹50lakhs. There are also plans to illuminate the monument, both from inside and outside, and to give the monument a fresh coat of paint. In the second phase a temporary folding stage will be set up at the foot of the 48 m tall monument to avoid congestion at the Dorina Crossing during rallies.

After the work is completed, both tourists and locals will have access to the top of the monument. Stalls selling souvenirs will also be set up just in front of the monument, while the pathways leading to it will be cleaned and decorated with flowering plants.

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