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Welcome to the Wikipedia
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ClockworkTroll 17:58, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Re: Unexpected Welcome, indeed
Heh - no, no warning from me today. And there's always time for a good Yakov Smirnoff reference!

If you happen to run across a page that needs cleaning up, you have couple of choices:
 * If your're into that kind of thing, you can learn about the subject and do what you can to make the article better
 * You can always just leave it - we have thousands of active editors, and somebody's bound to have the knowledge and motivation to do the necessary work.

In the end, however, just try to be bold in updating pages: Wikis develop faster when people fix problems, correct grammar, add facts, make sure the language is precise, and so on.

Good luck!

ClockworkTroll 19:15, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Γεια χαρά
Γεια σου ομοιδεάτη αντικληρικαλιστή... This is the English Wikipedia, so I'm going to write in English from now on; I suggest you do the same. Some of you greek comments such as "Α ρε τραγοπαπάδες" are not very much appreciated, although I'd agree with you in other circumstances. Wikipedia is (well, aims to be) an encyclopedia, and sober, neutral-point-of-view (in the spirit of developing consensus, not imposing) remarks and contributions are the ones most welcome.

Anyway, I'd like to welcome you to Wikipedia myself. I suggest adding yourself to the lists of Greek Wikipedians and Multilingual Wikipedians. Keep in touch. Etz Haim 12:26, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * An extra tip: Don't use Greek letters in edit summaries, cause they look like hell in the page history. Etz Haim 16:20, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * that's the thing i don't like about Wikis... no UTF-8 support... "[ Project2501a 14:24, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Mikis Theodorakis
I feel that there is a certain bias behind some "quotes" attributed to Theodorakis. Please review. Etz Haim Etz Haim 11:01, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * I agree with you in the sense that criticism towards the Israeli government -or any other national government- does not imply any kind of prejudice againsth the Israelis - or any other nation. The sad part is that Theodorakis DID recklessly say much of that BS in his Haaretz interview, creating a disaster for himself. Nevertheless, this section of the article has a certain bias agaist him. I think this heap of "quotes" should be transformed into readable prose, where both Theodorakis' ups (ie. the epic "Mauthausen") and downs (ie. "the root of all evil") are mentioned.

 * You don't have to do the writing, though. I intent to radically re-write his political history, including the above plus some stuff I've got in my incubator. If you think it would be useful, take a look in the Greek newspapers' archives, and tell me what you find. Etz Haim 14:30, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Έλα ρε Γιώργο. Έπιασες δουλειά, ε; Would you go and talk to Theodorakis himself? This would be great! Make sure to convey to him my deepest respects. A couple of things I want to tell you: a) Keep a close eye on my incubator. b) When you have to choose among different spellings of Greek names in English, you may use GoogleFight to tell you which has the more hits on Google, choose one that fits within your acceptable standards, and then create redirects for the remaining possible (mis)spellings.See? Etz Haim 08:18, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

OMHROI.gr
I think it's OK. I'm not the judge of everything but I couldn't help noticing that there are some guys that inflate their user pages with all sorts of stupid stuff such as propaganda material (ie posters) for Bush and Kerry. A little display of non-propagatory political sensitivity (and sanity) wouldn't harm anyone. And your page looks good - from all aspects.

PS. Wish me "chronia polla", 3/11 is my birthday ;) Etz Haim 23:21, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Vassilis Leventis
There's an edit dispute on Vassilis Leventis (not kidding) between User:Quantis and me, which has led into two versions of the article, one his and one mine. Please review them and comment on it. Thank you. Etz Haim 17:38, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Vassilis Leventis:Quantis reply
Until you find proof that you are not an elephant/troll, I will assume you are one. :)

 * I don't know the term "troll", except if you refer to the mythical creatures.

"didn't changed" ???? wtf?? Who the heck taught you English? By the way, posting in the English wikipedia requires a good command of the english language. It is clear, judging by your writing style as set forth in the history of the article on Mr. Leventis and in this post, that you do not possess such a command.

For example, you translated the word αποδείξεις (ουσιαστικό) into 'proofs'. In Greek, yes, you use plural to refer to proof. But you cannot simply translate the word proof and concatenate an s. Proofs in English does not refer to the evidence or argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true; it reffers to book proofing and original prints of a book. I think you would be better off editing in the Greek wikipedia (http://el.wikipedia.org).

 * That's not your business. Also you may have to respect others and not insult them, if you don't know them. Writing an article in Wikipedia is entirely different by answering to someones opinion quickly. So, please...

Responsibility of bringing forth proof of a "conspiracy" lies with those that claim said conspiracy exists, not the other way. You are the one accusing the greek media of a conspiracy. What you are doing is crying wolf. You sound like a Christan Right Winger from the US or Christodoulos preaching in Sunday Mass about the evils of homosexuality: Screaming bloody murder and not offering any proof of how you're being put down.

Calm down and give us FACTS and public records. Pointing out the non-existance of something and offering is as proof is a logical fallacy and it is circumstantial evidence at best. Give solid examples, back by dates and your article can be restored. Till then, your article gets an Negative POV from me.

 * Ok. I challenge you. Find in the mainstream greek public press interviews with representatives from other parties than the first 4-5 in national elections. Until then keep for your self democracy lessons.

What you are implying is that simply because a page has a controversial topic someone has to change it. What you are talking about is retaliation. Etz didn't retaliate against you. He edited an article he thought had a partisan point of view. You changed it back and then you demanded that your point of view is the only one that's true. The way things are done in wikipedia is that an article is posted and people then edit and re-edit and re-edit it, and talk about it and discuss it, till a consensus is developed. Obviously, you're just interesting in hearing only your own point of view.

I would love to hear alternative voices in the Greek media. Nobody's trying to stop you from creating an article about Mr. Leventis. A lot of people, though, are going to prevent you from making an article FOR Mr. Leventis. The point of Wikipedia is that you write your articles using perspective, which you do not exhibit.

 * Hmmm. Where excactly in my article I wrote something FOR Leventis? Mr. Etz Haim wrote:
 * Some of his points are simply ridiculus, like "Leventis' typewriter"...
 * Yes. Mr. Leventis used a typerwriter during the Junta and typed messages of freedom distributing them all over Athens. That's a fact.'''

"His influence on the Greek society is merely negligible (0,56% of the greek vote countrywide, see the last election results from an official source (http://ekloges.ypes.gr/en/)).

 * If Mr. Etz Haim wanted to write an article ABOUT Mr. Leventis why he didn't write all elections history of Enosi Kentroon but only the result of the last one? Mr. Leventis 1992 was elected second in the Second Electoral District of Athens after PASOK's candidate mr Mangakis and he received 100.000 and more votes (30%, of the District's population - which is the bigger in Greece). Also, Enosi Kentroon, is the only "small" greek party that its members run offices for it in USA and Germany (not so small now, huh?). A US Senator, mr Feingold and the famous by civil rights campaigns, Jesse Jackson are positive to Enosi Kentroon and Vassilis Leventis struggle for democracy. (so, this party is getting bigger...) You may say WHY I say now all these and I didn't add them in the article first time? Ok. I had not the time to do it. There is any proof for all these? Yes there is. Call mr Feingold and mr Jackson if you have doubts. So. Now, if I even admit that wrote an article FOR mr Leventis, mr Etz Haim wrote an article AGAINST mr Leventis. Why you don't say anything for that?'''

 * The article also propagates Leventis' POV that there is a conspiracy by the greek media against him, and these allegations are far from being proved. Etz Haim 05:14, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

You are displaying signs of Trolling, a troll with a political agenda. I wouldn't have responded to you inside Etz's talk page, normaly, because ITS BAD PRACTICE TO DO SO, but you went and screwed with my happy birthday wish.

 * Sorry for screwing your happy birthday wish.

So, this is a warning.

 * Huh?

Quantis

Leventis again
That was my version of the article you edited, and consequently my English. Honestly, I like it more the way it was before. Etz Haim 16:03, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

NJIT
I think the more important question is: why is it relevant? First, the Princeton Review ranking methodology is hardly significant nor useful. Besides, having the list there assumes that people actually understand what "Professors Get Low Marks" or "More to Do On Campus Social" actually means (or that people actually care what they mean). I mean, who cares if NJIT ranks 18th as "Is It Food?" and what does that really mean and who really cares? At the very most, it should be distilled into one or two sentences, pulling out significant points. Darkcore 17:25, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hanuka alegre
Hanuka alegre a vos tambien (=Happy Hanukkah to you as well), although I'm not Jewish. I'm just culturally interested in Jewish culture and tradition. Anyway, it was very considerate of you to give me your wishes on that occasion, so thank you. :) Etz Haim 22:55, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Greek literature
That would be very nice, but keep a couple of things in mind:

 * When you translate copyrighted material, you own the copyright of your translated document, put publishing it may infringe the copyright of the author of the original document. You may have to seek permission from the author before starting out.
 * It's a lot of work to be done, so take your time, keep a reasonable pace and don't burn out in the process!

-- Etz Haim 19:02, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Conscription
For what you said in my talk page, you are 110% right, so I restored the first part of your statement. However, I disagree with the comparison you made between the Greek and the Turkish military. Although the Greek military wants to establish itself politically and takes advantage of the conscripts' misfortune to manipulate situations, the Turkish military is way ahead in its political establishment. Its structures are interweaved into the Turkish state, it has a greater deal of autonomy, and it controls political affairs by constantly threatening to destabilize the country. So there's no need for them to bully conscripts! Etz Haim 15:42, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I've never edited the text on Conscription, only rearranged a couple of paragraphs, so this article can't tell much about my English. Etz Haim 02:38, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

VfD on Greek Civil War the right wing view
It's on Votes for deletion. Go there and cast your vote. Etz Haim 18:15, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Newark pics
Recently I and others have been expanding the list of Newark neighborhoods that have articles written about them. So far University Heights, Downtown Newark the Ironbound, Forest Park, Weequahic, Broadway, and Vailsburg have stubs/full fledged articles. Right now, Downtown lacks even a single photo. If you could take a pic of Broad Street you would improve the article greatly.

I feel that the Newark neighborhood articles could be greatly improved by a photograph or two for each. If you spend time in Newark and you have a digital camera, you could help the Brick City out a lot in this way. Personally, I think that the main Newark article is saturated with pictures already. In some places text is obscured. dinopup

Greece
If the anonymous user reverts the article once more, don't revert him yourserlf, report him in WP:VIP instead. Etz Haim 20:15, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Did this myself. Etz Haim 21:13, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Macedonian Slavs
Hi there! If you'd care to comment on the current dispute on Talk:Macedonian Slavs, you being a local and all, you'd be very welcome. -- ChrisO 00:44, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Note to both you and Kapnisma: On the debate on Talk:Macedonian Slavs, Greece's mode of administration (democratic, tolerant or the exact opposite) is not the matter in question. This whole issue has started because we want to check if INTERREG's 100,000 is correctly attributed to the EU, as ChrisO suggests. Your statement's on the Greek state's credibility etc. are both in the realm of political opinion, and are out of the interests of this discussion. Please try to focus on the substance of this. Etz Haim 19:04, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Dully noted. Wilco. Project2501a 23:11, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Apart from the depate about macedonian-slavs, I would like to comment something.I fully respect your opinions (despite the fact that I might disagree in some), nothing pleases me more than to debate with others.But allow me (without any vice and without any intention to be seen as I lecture you) to say that sometimes the way you are writing and you express yourself makes you seen like a fanatic and να χανεις το δικιο σου.

 * fanatic? nah, i don't think so. Demented? Jury's still out. Opinionated? certainly! :D Project2501a 11:17, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

φιλικα ,Kapnisma 06:57, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Katathesame tin pshfo mas ston Papadiamanti. Den eixa idea oti ginontai tetoies pshfofories. Gia o,ti neo enhmerwne na boithame.

Kostasge 09:15, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Polytonic rendering, again
Please read: Talk:Greek language and Template talk:Polytonic. When you want to render polytonic Greek script and polytonic ONLY, use the template instead of the. Etz Haim 23:28, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Eastern Orthodox views on homosexuality
See Talk:Christian views of homosexuality#User:Phiddipus.27 personal essay and add your comments on this edit dispute. Etz Haim 03:01, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Reverting your user page
I've reverted your page, as it looked like an edit was broken. (The database has been messing up, and I've seen multiple articles cut off like this). If this is not correct and the edit was intended as such, do of course revert back. Also, thanks for reporting me for vandalism, I await my just punishment by the cabal. :-) JRM 02:13, 2005 Jan 17 (UTC)

Translating the 2005 Belize unrest
Hi. Etz Haim suggested I contact you. Could you possibly translate 2005 Belize unrest into Greek. I want to submit it for a contest and hopefully win Wikipedia some money. Thanks. Danny 15:54, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hip hop
Hi. Please don't keep reverting the first line of hip hop music to the line:

 * Hip hop is a form of rhythmic chanting, often with aggressively hostile content, that is frequently (but inaccurately) referred to as "music."

This isn't an opinion that appears very well informed on either count. Please discuss on the article's Discussion page if you would like to be taken seriously on this article. Tempshill 19:46, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks! Sorry for the misunderstanding.  Tempshill 22:07, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Politically incorrect
LOL -- yes, it's frustrating to have to defend Wikipedia from the well-meaning censors as well as the vandals and the spammers, but it's just part of the job. I put Ten Little Niggers on my watchlist after doing some cleanup work on it precisely because I knew that sooner or later someone would want to "fix" the title. Looks like you do good work here -- keep your sense of humor up, your wikistress down, and trust the system; bad things do end up going away over time, and the good things do keep getting better.

Cheers! Your mission, Barbarella, is to find Duran Duran... Catherine\talk 20:41, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Software development has a 36/48hr cycle?
Hello! Like you I am very much interested in GUIs (have you read the JAVA look and feel guide?) but from the user's point of view since I am trained as a librarian. I have had to resort and depend on a wide variety of software engineers, software developers and software programmers during my career, and this has given me many looks on some fascinating methods of work. There were quite a few individuals or groups with 36 or 48 hour work cycles in coporations, here and there, but even more in university research labs. This has to do with a phenomenon of continuous intellectual flow. When an individual gets in this state of "flow" programming software is much more easier. Getting back to the flow apparently is not easy, hence the reluctance to stop for sleeping, just because it might be "normal" to follow a 24 hourt day. This was described by a scientist whose name I just cannot remember how to spell. It sounds like "chick-sent-me-hailey", pronounced with a Maryland or New Jersey or Pennsylvania US accent. Last time I heard it, it was during a conference by Ben Shneiderman (who you probably know of because of his work on user interfaces) at UIST 2003 in Vancouver. It is not Cszyksendmyali or Cziksendmialyi but it is something close to this. When I can get the correct reference I will write it. --AlainV 02:38, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

EFnet #perlhelp, #irchelp
Yeah, that's me, although I don't make my way onto EFnet very much anymore. I guess we've met? — mendel ☎ 01:46, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)

User Page Vandalism
yeah i know the blanking wasnt done by you... it was done by an anonymous user who was pissed i deleted their link spam from the article on Podcasting. All the same it was quite humorous to load my user page and notice the damn trollwarning banner :)  ALKIVAR ™ 23:11, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

History of Greece
Will you PLEASE stop deleting factual information from the History of Greece articles? I KNOW Greek nationalists don't like being told there is a Slav-Macedonian minority in Greek Macedonia, and I KNOW the Greek government denies this (calling them "Slav-speaking Greeks" or something), but the fact is that there is one, and the article should say so. I am SO SICK of having these arguments with petty Balkan nationalists, Greek, Turkish, Bulgarian, Romanian etc etc. What is it with this part of the world? Efharisto. Adam 00:40, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Need Help
The article vanavsos is up for deletion. Can you please help in this regard. Second, I am having difficulty with Wikinfo:Classical definition of republic and am having trouble on Talk:Republic because they won't allow an external link. It was deleted off of Wikipedia, and I believe it needs to come back on. A serious mistake in deleting this article. Thanks for your time.WHEELER 18:30, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Apologies
I am sorry about "Vassilis Leventis" article. Yes, the article was not NPOV. Please also accept my apologies for trolling behaviour. I also restored my talk page as it is appropriate. quantis 12:20, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

That neat little intro at the top of your talk page
I hope that was a mistake. I was seriously confused when Quantis posted a note intended for you on my talk page, and I couldn't figure out for the life of me how he/she got there.

If it was a joke: don't do that. I don't care, but others might. JRM 10:03, 2005 Mar 16 (UTC)

Image source
Thank you for uploading Image:Ayiwtopoulos.jpg. Its copyright status is unclear, so it may have to be deleted. Please leave a note on the image page about the source of the image. Thank you. --Ellmist 04:56, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

NICOS DIMOU SITE
I see that you like his books (so do I). I'm giving you the url for his site http://www.ndimou.gr/index_gr.asp (Newcomer 08:17, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC))

Check it out
We have an unmitigated disaster on our hands. Please check out republic. And I don't know what I am talking about.WHEELER 16:34, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Image
Hi. I don't see how Image:Jambalaya.jpg with no source given falls under fair use. See Fair use. If you think it qualifies, perhaps you can explainon the image page? Thank you. -- Infrogmation 21:32, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

My RFA
Hey wanted to let you know i'm up for Adminship if you want to go vote. Requests_for_adminship/Alkivar  ALKIVAR ™ 05:42, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Greek Speaker Tag
I was wondering if you could take a look at the el-2 tag on my user page and check the word choice and grammar for me (I should probably be an el-1.25, but that isn't an option). You can correct the template yourself, or tell me what's wrong and have me do it, and I can apply any neccesary changes to the rest of the templates. Thanks! --Jpbrenna 03:25, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok, I changed it, except I used "metria" instead of "mikri." On the el-1 page, I used the same format as the one you've seen, only substituting "vasiki."  For el-3, I used "anoteri."  What do you think of those choices?  On the fluent speaker page (simply "el") I changed it a bit, as you can see here.  What do you think?

 * I was wondering if on e1-e3 I should say "tis ellinikis glossas" or just "sta ellinika?"

 * Look them over and let me know if you have any suggestions. --Jpbrenna 16:34, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Greece
I have warned the POV pusher on the Greece article that I will block him if he makes another nationalist edit to the article. I don't want to protect the page at the moment as it is only one editor causing a problem, it is easier just to block him if he continues rather stop everyone from editing the page. Rje 18:19, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

Greeks
I agree, really, but I put it there to stand for a photo that wasn't ancient art; a modern photo of Greek people is what I was hoping for, but I've not been able to find anything suitable yet. Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 22:31, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Anything but Evzones or Nana Mouskouri...
 * The first time I ever visited Greece, we arrived early in the morning, met some friends, were whisked off for a quick shower at the flat we were borrowing in Zografou, a day looking around Athens, the evening at a big PASOK rally (this was in the Summer of 1980), and finally off to a restaurant for something to eat. By this time I hadn't slept for about forty-eight hours, so was nearly dropping off my seat with exhaustion, and I vaguely heard the others discussing what they should eat.  I was suddenly brought wide awake when I was sure that I heard them decide to have skilaki... Yes, it was souvlaki, of course — but I was very tired, and I'd never heard the word before (I'm vegetarian). Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 23:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

 * That's a more suitable picture than the "sweaty, overpaid eleven", or however the team was described. I'm amazed that there's no article on Skopelos —, ah, there is... Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 11:06, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Steve Ballmer
Attempts to communicate with the subjects of Wikipedia are routinely speedy deleted. RickK 23:45, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

Giati miseis ti xora sou toso poly?
Apo periergia. Miskin

Chess
Hi, I'd just like to let you know that the chess tournament has started. You will play User:Linuxbeak. Look at the rules, decide with your opponent what colour you will play, and then start playing! If you have any questions either ask me or try Wikipedia talk:Chess championship. Good luck! Gkhan 23:58, May 15, 2005 (UTC)

Chess
Just three words, my dear friend.

Bring it on.

Let the best man win >:-D Linuxbeak | Desk 02:03, May 16, 2005 (UTC)

I sure hope nothing bad happened
 something smells like burning plastic in my comptuer...  in or around.  uh  that's generally considered not good  HOLY SHIT  THE CHIPSET FAN IS ON FIRE  REBOOTING  oh dear  more like unbooting I would guess. more like no computer to boot

Holy shit, that's not good for anyone. Looks like fried Megahertz to me Ghost Freeman | Talk 22:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Chess game
Hi

You wrote that you played 4...d6, but is it 4...b6 you meant? That's what you put on the board anyway. Sjakkalle 13:35, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

StarCraft: Ghost edits.
Thanks for the heads up, but I don't understand. Does that mean I should create that template, or put it on that page?

New Stuff
No, I'm not an employee of Blizzard. Right now, I'm not editing the article. That's going to take me until tomorrow. (It's my birthday today and I have a cold.) Are you? If you're not, I should remove that template.

Vote for Deletion
Hi; I'm sorry to be bothering you concerning this, but Chess championship is up for a VfD. Votes_for_deletion/Chess_championship Please vote to keep this thing alive... this is so lame that I need to ask people to help out here. Linuxbeak | Desk 03:43, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

John Lee Hooker
Hello! There are several websites that list each musician discography, my favourite one is www.rateyourmusic.com, if you like to search discographies you'll like it, I took that info from there! Good work. :) Afonso Silva 17:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Kurdistan Workers Party
Hey man, could you take a look at Kurdistan Workers Party and Talk:Kurdistan Workers Party (probably best to start at the bottom of the talk page and work your way up). - FrancisTyers 09:44, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Btw. subtitrari.images.o2.cz is one of the best subtitle sites I've found on the internet, their interface sucks though ;) - FrancisTyers 09:58, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Race riot
Greetings. Thanks for your note on my talk page. Hope you don't mind, but I find it easier to keep track of discussions if they're in one place. Kindly return to my talk page for my response. Peace 2 u. :) deeceevoice 19:38, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedian Computer Scientists
Why requiring a BS/BA? And shouldn't it be named Category:Wikipedian computer scientists to keep with the naming convention? --cesarb 23:15, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

 * I say "requiring a BS/BA" because a Computer Scientist is a title awarded by a univerisity/college to a person completing its CompSci degree. how else are you going to be a Computer scientist? as far as the move is conscerned, yeah, you're right, i'll move it right now.
 * Project2501a
 * Project2501a

 * Is it really necessary to be officially recognized by academia to be a computer scientist? Isn't it possible to become one by being an autodidact? Or even, you are still a student, but hasn't graduated yet?
 * It's like those crazy proposals saying only people with computer science degrees can program a computer or design a network. I hope they never pass.
 * --cesarb 23:39, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

 * So, you're telling me that there are persons who, on their own, will study the following topics and be able to excibit considerable knowledge on them:
 * [snip]
 * and on top of that, learn 4-5 computer languages, 4-5 computer language paradigms, 5-6 APIs, 2-3 development enviroments and 1 or 2 operating systems.
 * Dang. I'd like to meet this guy :)
 * Project2501a
 * Dang. I'd like to meet this guy :)
 * Project2501a
 * Project2501a
 * Project2501a

 * Not impossible. Before entering university, I already knew at least basic computer programming and artificial intelligence; given time (and the right textbooks), it would be easy to learn all the others.
 * And there's also another two cases:
 * A student who (like me) hasn't graduated yet.
 * Someone who studied outside academia (even if following the same curriculum).
 * Neither of them would have an academic degree.
 * --cesarb 00:46, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

True. I would place a computer science student under our category, in fact, i'd welcome a student with open arms (cuz they have all the time in the world and can reseach and write articles BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *Evil laughter*)

Somone outside of academia is not a computer scientist even if he has followed the same curriculum. it's the same deal between mathematicians and amature mathematicians. see Mathematics. Same goes for Computer Science. When was the last time you saw CS theroy being created by an amature computer scientist (person without credentials) and being accepted by the computer world? (academia is the self-refencial pointer by which we can tell if a person has *some* background about his work or not)

Project2501a 00:58, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

 * So, the category should accept amateur computer scientists too. And it's quite easy to think of someone without any "computer science" credentials who created CS theory: the pioneers of the field, who did it before the credentials could be created (how could they have formal education in a field which didn't even exist yet?). --cesarb 01:06, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

 * The pioneers of the field, where trained mathematicians (which is mostly where computer science originates from) or electrical engineers. Turing, knuth, Dikjstra(sp) were definately not amateurs. Project2501a 01:15, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, but they didn't have a BS/BA in computer science. So, by your definition above, they would be called amateur computer scientists. --cesarb 01:38, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

O grego deixou o edifício no navio do pirata. Project2501a 10:55, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * That made no sense, I'm Brazilian, not Portuguese... --cesarb 11:30, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Some articles for you to look at

 * Ioannis Psycharis
 * Greek military ranks
 * Template:Greece_officer_ranks
 * Strategos
 * Template:Hellenic_Army

I couldn't find much about Psycharis life on the web, and I don't currently have access to a book I know of that had a nice bio section on him. Anything you can add would be appreciated.

In transliterating the names of the ranks, I've tried to stick to the official modern transcription, except where I thought it would help the English reader who wants to learn the names more quickly; for instance, strategos bears a strong resemblance to the English word strategy, and they might not make the connection if I spelt it stratigos.

That last template, Hellenic Army, is based on the British Version. See that nice flag the British have at the top? We need one of those. I downloaded a version of the Hellenic Army symbol: Byzantine double-eagle with cross on its chest from the Bulgarian Wikipedia. However, I can't read Bulgarian and I wasn't sure of its copyright status. I want to get all the military symbols uploaded to Commons, if Greek copyright law allows that. Can you advise me at all on that? (If you're smart, you'll talk to your top sergeant and parlay this into a public relations project for the Greek military and get yourself assigned light duty uploading logos for the rest of your hitch ;) )

Thanks for any help you can give! --Jpbrenna 18:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I noticed your recommendation about putting English titles first, then the original Greek. I'm going through the articles and changing that.

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Kalamazoo?

Kalamazoo? is a 2006 American comedy film, directed by David O'Malley and starring Josie Davis, Mayim Bialik and Joanna Clare Scott, who also wrote the screenplay. The movie was filmed entirely in Kalamazoo, Michigan.

Plot
Carol (Josie Davis), Maggie (Mayim Bialik) and Joan (Joanna Clare Scott) are three friends who took different ways in their lives. The girls go back to Kalamazoo, Michigan for their 10-year high school reunion, but they discovered that a time capsule placed on their graduation night containing predictions would be opened in one week. Horrified at the thought of having their unfulfilled goals made public, they decide to steal the time capsule and destroy it. But they have to deal with the life they left behind, including former loves and family.

Personnel
Adapted from Cine TVX.

 * David O'Malley – director, executive producer
 * Joanna Clare Scott – screenwriter, producer
 * Dana E. Kowalski – screenwriter
 * Isabel Holtreman – screenwriter

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Andy Mabbett has run out of copyright notices to serve and so now he is looking at deleting original material. Andy... Birmingham has been instrumental in dance music in the UK since the development of the mellotron, you obviously are not qualified enough to add mature comment to this article, there are only a handfull of UK cities that have contributed as much to Dance Music, Brum is most definately one of them. Stop deleting Nick Boulevard 22:23, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Following the pattern of articles like music of Manchester, I think this should be moved to "music of Birmingham". That's a broader topic, but that's fine, at least for now, since having a more general article scope will encourage people to add info on more diverse subjects. If necessary then, a subarticle could always be split out. In any case, dance shouldn't be capitalized. Tuf-Kat 08:15, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * There's already Arts in Birmingham, with which this could be merged; or your suggested page could be hived off from that, and this merged wth it. Andy Mabbett 10:51, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * My passion for dance music is even greater than my passion for Birmingham. Many of the nights in the first paragraph were fun, but many of them are not of great significance. Many of the brum nights were copycat, viz God's Kitchen, Shaanti, Sundissential, Wobble (I thought wobble was a club not a night?) However -if you're looking at nights like Cream, Gatecrasher etc. then that's significant. I was just a nipper so I never went to them, but they are all important nights. However I thought Cream started in Manchester and I was certain GC began in Leeds? I could be wrong. In anycase there's an argument that Atomic Jam was pretty major too ... So perhaps 'influential' should go back in... Leonig Mig 12:47, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I've marked the page to show that its accuracy is questioned. Andy Mabbett 12:55, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Found a discussion here: C.R.E.A.M. is nothing to do with Cream of Liverpool, so therefore is not of great significance. As for Gatecrasher, i'm not sure. I know one of the owners lives in Barnt Green, however when I used to go in Sheffield I was def. under the impression it began in Leeds. Leonig Mig 13:04, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * , agrees that GC did start in Brum, so that's fair enough. Editting main article to reflect.

Why is there more info about B'ham music in Arts in Birmingham...
...than in this article specifically about music from the city?

I propose moving all the music info from Arts in Birmingham here and linking from there and from the main Birmingham page. Thoughts? Valiantis 23:38, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Either that, or just getting rid of this page. It's typical of the problem we had a few months ago with Birmingham articles - certain people thinking they could boost the city's profile by duplicating material all over Wikipedia.  I don't think the Arts in Birmingham page is so huge that it needs to have sections put into separate articles.  A lot of it is just stupid lists of people, some with only tenuous connections to actual musical life in Brum (recent additions gleaned from here by the look of it).  Just because a musician was born in the city doesn't mean they contributed to the city's music.  --Brumburger 07:55, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I can see why this was done but I'm going to re-fork the content and try and expand it into a proper article, along the lines of Art of Birmingham and Literature of Birmingham. Birmingham's music is internationally influential and has an extensive literature - it's easily notable enough to have a substantial article of its own. JimmyGuano (talk) 07:52, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

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Talk:Persistence

Disambiguation page?
Maybe we should change this into a proper disambiguation page (including the disambig template)? --Yogi de 22:23, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * It's a tough call. An article such as this is appropriate if persistence is regarded as the primary meaning, the one most people coming here would be thinking of. Whether that is the case here I'm unsure. The number of people who deal with functional data structures, CRT hardware, and number theory is quite a bit smaller than the number of ordinary software developers, who see this sort of persistence everyday. Deco 07:57, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Tangail

Tangail (টাঙ্গাইল, ) is a city of Tangail District in central Bangladesh. A significant city in Bangladesh, Tangail lies on the bank of the Louhajang River, 83 km northwest of Dhaka, the nation's capital. It is the 25th most populous city in Bangladesh.

Etymology
Tangail originates from the Bengali word tanga, meaning horse carts; long lines of horse carts were standard in the area in the early 19th century, as these were the favoured mode of transport for passengers and cargo.

History
Tangail has been a local business center since the early 19th century. In 1860, Tangail became the 4th ranking area of the Greater Mymensingh district due to its fertile land near the Louhajong River. It was close to Begun Bari, Mymesningh. In 1969, Tangail district was established.

Tangail Airdrop
The Tangail Airdrop was a successful battalion-size operation by India's Para Commandos, mounted on December 11, 1971, by the 2nd Battalion (Special Operations) (2 PARA) of the Indian Army's Parachute Regiment during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 for the liberation of Bangladesh. The operation's main objective was capturing Poongli Bridge on the Jamuna River, which would cut off the Pakistani 93rd Brigade, which was retreating from Mymensingh in the north to defend the capital of East Pakistan, Dhaka, and its approaches. The paratroop unit was also tasked to link up with the advancing Maratha Light Infantry on the ground to advance toward the East Pakistani capital.

The Pourasabha (municipal corporation) was established on July 1, 1887, and initially divided the city into five wards:

This was later restructured into four wards - Ward No. 1 (Central), 2 (Betka), 3 (Dighulia), and 4 (Santosh) - and then, in 1988, into six wards with the addition of Wards 5 (Zila Sadar) and 6 (Kazipur).

The first city election was held in November 1887 when the citizens elected eight ward commissioners from four wards. The Subdivision Commissioner of Tangail, Shashi Shekhar Dutt, was appointed as the first administrator of Tangail City. The city needed to be better developed, lacking paved roads and roadside lamps; subsequently, the regional zamindars and subdivision board provided financial support to dig ponds, lakes, and canals, creating a safe water supply.

Electricity was established in the city in the early 1930s. Paved roads were constructed in the 1960s, connecting the town to Dhaka. Simultaneously, bridges and culverts were installed. In 1985, Tangail was promoted from a C to a B Class city. In 1989, the Pourashava was promoted to A-Class. In the 1990s, the city was financed by the Asian Development Bank and the Government of Bangladesh to develop water supply, sanitation, wastewater drainage, bus terminals, supermarkets, and other infrastructure.

In 1999, the city was restructured again into 18 wards (its current organization).

Wards
Tangail has an area of 35.22 km2, divided into 18 wards and 64 mahallas.

The Bangladeshi government is planning to expand the city to a total area of 81.75 km2.

Geography and climate
The city of Tangail is in Dhaka Division, Central Bangladesh. The town lies in a low-lying floodplain near the Jamuna River, south of the high plateau of the Madhupur tract. The average elevation of Tangail is 14 meters (49 feet). Tangail experiences a Tropical savanna climate(Köppen: Aw ) with a hot, humid tropical wet season (monsoon season) and warm, dry winter with high humidity year-round. The yearly average temperature in Tangail is 27.5 °C, and the average rainfall is 1817 mm.

Demographics
According to the 2011 Bangladesh census, Tangail Paurashava had 37,607 households and a population of 167,412. 30,882 (18.45%) were under 10 years of age. Tangail has a literacy rate (age 7 and over) of 71.78%, compared to the national average of 59.5%, and a sex ratio of 976 females per 1000 males.

Sports
At the city's centre, the multipurpose Tangail Stadium regularly hosts sporting events. The stadium has hosted national events.

Transport

Bangabandhu Bridge, the second longest bridge in Bangladesh, connects Tangail and Sirajganj.

It takes approximately 1 hour and 55 minutes to reach Tangail from Dhaka (about 98 km away) via Kaliakair and Tongi. Several bus lines operate between Tangail and Dhaka's Mohakhali (মহাখালী) bus terminal. The Nirala, Dhaleshwari, Jathika, and High Choice bus lines are among them.

Tangail railway station offers travel to Dhaka and other cities within Bangladesh. The inter-city Ekota Express, Sundarban Express, Rangpur Express, Intercity Tangail Commuter and Sirajganj Express (amongst others) serve the station alongside commuter rail and mail train services.

Tangail Airport was opened in 1967 for agricultural purposes but has been unmaintained since 1976.

Traditional foods

 * Chomchom, is a well-known dessert from Tangail.
 * Pineapple

Parks
Tangail contains numerous parks, including Tangail Poura Uddan (one of the city's most-visited places), DC Lake, SP Park, and Soul Park. The town also contains part of the Madhupur National Park, one of Bangladesh's oldest national parks.

Schools

 * Bindu Basini Govt. Boys' High School (established in 1880 by zamindar of Santosh of the famous Roy Chowdhury family)
 * Bindu Basini Govt. Girls' High School (established in 1882 by zamindar of Santosh of the famous Roy Chowdhury family)
 * Govt. Dhanbari Nawab Institution (Established in 1910 by Syed Nawab Ali Chowdhury) famous zamindar of Dhanbari. He is also a founder member of Dhaka University
 * Miyavai International School and College, Madhupur (This school was established on 2.2.22 (2 February 2022) by Boro Miya (Miya vai/Rasel Miya) of the famous Miya family of Madhupur.)
 * Police Lines High School
 * Sristy College Of Tangail
 * Tangail Polytechnic
 * Santosh Jannabi Govt. High School
 * Vivekananda High School
 * Madhupur Shaheed Smriti Higher Secondary School & College, Madhupur
 * Gvt.Rani Bhavani Pilot High School, Madhupur
 * A.R.L Memorial School and College,Madhupur
 * Belayet Hossain Bahumukhi Uchcha Bidyaloy, Nallapara, Delduar.
 * Bharateshwari Homes, Mirzapur
 * B.A.F Shaheen College, Pahar Kanchanpur
 * Zila Sadar Girls' High School
 * Shibnath High School
 * P.T.I. High School
 * Shaheen School and College
 * Bulbul Residential Model School, Tangail Sadar, Tangail
 * Athail Shimul High School Ghatail Tangail
 * Brammon Kushia Government Primary School, Brammon Kushia, Tangail
 * Bararia Suruj Bisweswari High School, Bararia, Tangail
 * Apon Pathshala, Tangail
 * Ghatail Cantonment Public School & College.
 * Suti V.M Pilot High School, Gopalpur

Higher education

 * Mawlana Bhashani Science and Technology University, Santosh, Tangail
 * Sheikh Hasina Medical College, Tangail
 * Kumudini Women's Medical College, Mirzapur
 * Mirzapur Cadet College
 * Major General Mahmudul Hassan Adarsha College
 * Sristy College of Tangail
 * Madhupur Shahid Smrity Higher Secondary School & College, Madhupur
 * Kumudini Government Mohila College
 * GRB University, Madhupur (Recommended)
 * A.R.L Memorial School and College
 * Hazi Giyash Uddin Medical College, Madhupur
 * Madhupur Assistant Medical Training Centre
 * Govt. Sheikh Fazilatunnesa Mujib Mohila College
 * Tangail Polytechnic Institute
 * Vivekananda College
 * B.A.F Shaheen College, Pahar Kanchanpur
 * Govt. Saadat College, Karatia
 * Bangabandhu Textile Engineering College,(BTEC) Kalihati
 * Textile Institute of Tangail
 * M.M Ali College
 * Haji Abul Hossain Institute of Technology

Notable residents

 * Syed Nawab Ali Chowdhury, Zamindar, founding member of University of Dhaka, education minister of United Bengal
 * Maulana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhashani, Islamic scholar, political leader, and ex-president of the Awami League.
 * Shamsul Huq, the first general secretary of the Awami League.
 * Abu Sayeed Chowdhury, the second president of Bangladesh.
 * Abdul Mannan, the Home and Family Planning Minister (1972-1975), MNA (1970), MP (1996-2001). He established the Tangail General Hospital, Govt. Sheikh Fazilatunnesa Mujib College, and Atia College.
 * Qader "Tiger" Siddiqi, Pakistan Army havildar, famed Mukti Bahini leader (decorated Bir Uttom) (MP 1999–2013), and founding leader of Krishak Sramik Janata League.
 * Mohammad Abdur Razzaque, Member of Parliament from Tangail-1
 * Soto Monir, Member of Parliament from Tangail-2
 * SM Aslam Talukder aka Manna, film actor and producer.
 * Tarana Halim, M.P., film actress

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William McLean Hamilton

William McLean Hamilton, (February 23, 1919 – June 7, 1989) was a Canadian politician.

Biography
He was born in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. His father, Ernest Hamilton, was a lacrosse player who won a gold medal at the 1908 Summer Olympics. He was a student at the Montreal High School and he took a B.Sc. from Sir George Williams University in business administration.

He sat on Montreal City Council and the Montreal Executive Committee.

He was elected to parliament in the 1953 election as a Progressive Conservative for the riding of Notre-Dame-de-Grâce. In his maiden speech to Parliament in November he accused the Liberal government led by Louis St. Laurent of being socialists. His criticisms were based on the government being corporatistic and taking an interest in private business activities.

Following the 1957 election, he was appointed Postmaster General of Canada by John Diefenbaker. In that office Hamilton annoyed many of his colleagues by not permitting the post office to be used a reward for party supporters. He also drew ire by attempting to close many small and inefficient post offices.

Despite his staunch fiscal conservatism and anti-communism, he was a supporter of the Quebec Liberal Party over the Union Nationale. Hamilton disliked the corruption of the Union Nationale and their infusion of strict Catholicism into Quebec politics. Hamilton was an Anglican.

He resigned as Postmaster General on July 12, 1962, after he was defeated in the 1962 election by Edmund Tobin Asselin. Hamilton could not speak French, and it was a more important issue in 1962 than it had been previously.

After his defeat Hamilton left Montreal for Vancouver where he ran a business.

In 1978 he was made an Officer of the Order of Canada.

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Jim Davenport

James Houston Davenport (August17, 1933 – February18, 2016) was an American Major League Baseball infielder, primarily a third baseman, who played his entire career—over 1,500 games—with the San Francisco Giants (1958–1970). He also managed the Giants, served as a coach for them for nine years over three different terms, and spent 51 years in all with the San Francisco organization. The right-handed batter and thrower, nicknamed "Peanut" or "Peanuts" as a child by his grandfather, was listed as 5 ft tall and 170 lb.

Early life
Davenport was born and grew up in Siluria, Alabama, also the birthplace of future teammate Willie Kirkland, and not far from Willie Mays' hometown. Growing up, Davenport had wanted to play football for the University of Alabama. However, Davenport married after high school and Alabama had a policy of not recruiting married players.

College career
Instead, he earned a football scholarship to the University of Southern Mississippi (then called Mississippi Southern College), where he played quarterback and also joined the baseball team. In 1954, Davenport hit .439 for the Southern Miss baseball team, and signed a professional contract with the Giants after the season.

San Francisco Giants (1958–1970)
Davenport made his major league debut with the San Francisco Giants on April 15, 1958, taking the team's first at bat on the West Coast, striking out against Don Drysdale of the Los Angeles Dodgers at Seals Stadium. His best season was, when he batted .297 with 14 home runs and 58 RBIs and made the All-Star team for the only time in his career. In the first of 1962's two MLB All-Star games, played July 10 at DC Stadium, Davenport took over for Ken Boyer as the National League's third baseman in the sixth inning with the Senior Circuit ahead, 2–1. In the eighth frame, his single off Dick Donovan set up Maury Wills' insurance run, as the Nationals ultimately won 3–1. Davenport played errorless ball in the field over the game's last four innings.

That same season, Davenport was critical to the Giants' winning their first pennant since moving to San Francisco five years before. After going four for nine (.444) in the first two games of the 1962 National League tie-breaker series against the Dodgers, including a home run off Sandy Koufax in Game 1, Davenport drew a bases-loaded walk off Stan Williams in the ninth inning of the decisive Game 3 to get credit for the game-winning RBI in the Giants' eventual 6–4 victory, which gained them their first NL title since 1954, when they played in New York City. In the 1962 World Series that followed, he started all seven games against the New York Yankees, but could muster only three hits in 22 at bats (.136), although he drew four more bases on balls. Defensively, he made three errors in 21 total chances at third base. The Giants lost the Series in seven games.

However, Davenport was known for his fielding, leading National League third basemen in fielding percentage each season from 1959 to 1961 and winning a Gold Glove at third base in 1962. Davenport played 97 consecutive errorless games at third base from July 26, 1966, to April 28, 1968, a record that stood until it was broken by John Wehner in the 1990s.

He had a career batting average of .258 with 77 home runs and 456 RBIs, with 1,142 career hits, also including 177 doubles and 37 triples, in 4,427 at bats. He played in 1,501 regular-season games in 13 years, the fourth-most in San Francisco Giants history after Willie McCovey (2,256), Willie Mays (2,095) and Barry Bonds (1,976). His 1,130 games played at third base are the most in Giants' history.

Post-playing career
After retiring as a player, Davenport finished the season as a coach on the staff of manager Charlie Fox. He managed the Triple-A Phoenix Giants for three years (1971–1973), then came back to MLB with the San Diego Padres for two years (1974–1975), working as third-base coach for skipper John McNamara. He returned to the Giants as their third base coach from 1976 to 1982, then as a scout.

Davenport was promoted to manager of the Giants in 1985, but was replaced September 17 by Roger Craig after compiling a 56–88 record; the club was in last place in the National League West Division, 29 games behind the Dodgers at the time. The 1985 team went on to lose 100 games in the worst season in franchise history (to date, it is also the only time the team has ever hit the triple-digit mark in losses). He moved on to work as a coach for the Philadelphia Phillies (1986–1987), Cleveland Indians (1989) and Detroit Tigers (1991), and was the Tigers' advance scout in 1992. He returned to the Giants for good in 1993, and served as the club's first base coach in 1996. Overall, Davenport worked in the Giants' organization for 51 years in various roles, including player, coach, scout, manager, and a minor-league instructor.

Davenport was inducted into the Southern Miss Athletic Hall of Fame as a quarterback in 1968. He was inducted into the Mississippi Sports Hall of Fame in 1983. In 2006, Davenport was inducted into the Alabama Sports Hall of Fame.

Personal life
He married his high school sweetheart, Betty, and had five children, a daughter and four sons. His son Gary Davenport played minor league baseball in the Giants organization and has coached in the Giants' minor league system since 2004. Davenport lived in San Carlos, California and worked in the Giants' front office until his death on February 18, 2016. He is buried in Skylawn Memorial Park near San Francisco. The Giants wore a patch in his memory for the 2016 season, a black circle with an orange outline and his nickname "Davvy" and his number 12, to be worn on the left sleeve, below Monte Irvin's memorial patch.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Orthography of the Zurich dialect

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. — Trilobite (Talk) 15:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Orthography of the Zurich dialect
delete inaccurate article (nearly patent nonsense); more accurate information has been merged into the article Zürich German -- j. 'mach' wust ˈtʰɔ̝ːk͡x 22:27, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Re-merge - It looks like this was split off from the Zürich German article for no good reason. Schmeitgeist 22:36, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

 * That's not the point. The article is complete nonsense. Nobody writes Zürich German with an orthography based on French. An article on Zürich German orthography should mention that there is no such orthography and that most authors base their spellings on the proposals of Eugen Dieth. This can easily be included in the stub on Zürich German, which is what I've done. -- j. 'mach' wust ˈtʰɔ̝ːk͡x 22:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete -- Appears to be original research. Haikupoet 05:07, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Original nonsense. Jayjg (talk) 22:10, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.


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Patricia Charbonneau

Patricia Charbonneau (born April 19, 1959) is an American actress, perhaps best known for playing the part of Cay Rivvers in Desert Hearts (1985), her first film role, for which she was nominated for the Independent Spirit Award for Best Female Lead.

Early life
Charbonneau was born in Valley Stream, New York on Long Island, the youngest of 10 children. Her father is French and her mother is Austrian. She graduated in 1977 from Valley Stream Central High School, which she attended with fellow actors Steve Buscemi and Steve Hytner. She later attended Boston University as a theater major, and left after a month to take a position with the Lexington Conservatory Theatre company in the Catskills.

Early work
At age 19, Charbonneau moved to New York City. She appeared in New York in the Lexington Conservatory Theatre production of The Revengers, a rock opera adaptation by William C. Sandwick and Philip Soltanoff at Playwrights Horizons, alongside Sofia Landon Geier. She also studied with noted acting teacher Fred Kareman and worked in smaller roles, including a part with the New York City Opera. In 1982, as a member of the Actors Theatre of Louisville, she originated the role of Lea in My Sister in this House by Wendy Kesselman, a part that she also played Off-Broadway, helping to launch her film and television career.

Desert Hearts
In 1985, Charbonneau made her film debut in Donna Deitch's film Desert Hearts, at a time when it was still considered a risk to portray a lesbian in a romantic drama, complete with a lengthy love scene. She told The Globe and Mail, "Kissing Helen wasn't the hard part, really. The hard part was walking out on the set naked and just standing there." Two days before shooting began, she found out that she was pregnant with her first child, whom she once called her "Desert Hearts baby."

For her performance in Desert Hearts, Charbonneau was nominated for a 1987 Independent Spirit Award for Best Female Lead.

Other notable work
In the following year she appeared in Michael Mann's Manhunter (based on the novel Red Dragon) and then played Anna, the lead, in Call Me (1988), which also featured fellow Valley Streamer Buscemi. The same year, she was featured in the crime drama/action movie Shakedown. Her television work began with a 1986 NBC pilot C.A.T. Squad and continued with dozens of appearances, including HBO's Tales from the Crypt; Crime Story; The Equalizer; Wiseguy; Murder, She Wrote; Matlock; New York Undercover; and Law & Order: Criminal Intent. In the 1990 film RoboCop 2, she played the role of Linda Garcia. Despite the character's prominence in the movie's plot, her name is never spoken, and the role was not listed in the credits; observant fans were able to determine the character's name by noticing that she wore a name tag. In 1995, she starred in Mission Critical, a Legend Entertainment sci-fi adventure game. She played one of James Garner's daughters in the 1999 CBS made-for-TV film One Special Night, which featured Julie Andrews.

In March 2007, Charbonneau joined the faculty of the Hudson Valley Academy of Performing Arts in West Taghkanic, New York where she teaches an acting workshop for children and teens.

Personal life
Charbonneau met musician Vincent Caggiano in 1978, and they married in 1982. They have a daughter.

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Skagit Valley

The Skagit Valley lies in the northwestern corner of the state of Washington, United States. Its defining feature is the Skagit River, which snakes through local communities which include the seat of Skagit County, Mount Vernon, as well as Sedro-Woolley, Concrete, Lyman-Hamilton, and Burlington.

The local newspaper is Skagit Valley Herald, published in Mount Vernon, Washington.

Between 1967 and 1983, there was a plan by Puget Sound Power and Light Co. to build two nuclear power plants in Skagit Valley, but due to controversy, these plans were shelved.

Tulip festival
The Skagit Valley Tulip Festival is a spring festival attended by thousands of visitors.

Music
Several local musical groups, including the Fidalgo Youth Symphony and the Skagit Valley Chorale, bring together local amateur musicians from across the Skagit Valley. In 2020, the Skagit Valley Chorale made international headlines during the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States when an infected person attended a choir rehearsal, before COVID-19 was known to be spreading in the local community. As one of the clearest superspreading events early in the pandemic – choir members were able to tell researchers who stood next to whom throughout most of the evening – it was carefully studied by researchers, which resulted in recommendations used worldwide about how to avoid transmitting the virus.

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Move to Microtubule-associated protein?

 * Support. — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Support. "Microtubule-associated protein" is the correct spelling. — Sampo Tiensuu 23:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 11:49, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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WERS

WERS (88.9 FM) is one of Emerson College's two radio stations (the other being campus station WECB), located in Boston, Massachusetts, United States. Programming features over 20 different styles of music and news, including live performances and interviews. WERS stands as the oldest non-commercial radio station in New England, and has been in operation since November 1949. Among the founders of the station was WEEI program director Arthur F. Edes, who first taught broadcasting courses at Emerson in 1932 and helped to plan a campus radio station. The chief architect of WERS in its early years was Professor Charles William Dudley.

Translators
In June 2007, WERS inaugurated a translator station on 96.5 MHz in New Bedford, Massachusetts, relaying WERS's programming to New Bedford and nearby communities. Another translator, on 101.5 MHz in Gloucester, Massachusetts, on Cape Ann, went on the air in July 2008.

Critical acclaim
According to The Princeton Review, WERS is the #1 college radio station in America, an award the station has won or come close to winning almost every year since The Princeton Review started ranking colleges.

WERS is the most highly rated student-run college radio station in the US. In the Boston market (10th largest in the nation), WERS's daytime programming usually ranks at 20th to 25th.

Sports
In the late 1990s and mid-2000s, WERS featured a successful sports-themed program, Sports Sunday, which aired Sundays from noon to 2 pm. The program won three consecutive Associated Press annual awards for student sports programming (2002, 2003, and 2004). Guests of the show included former basketball great Bill Walton, Boston Globe columnist Kevin Paul DuPont, Hockey East commissioner Joe Bertagna, former Northeastern University men’s hockey head coach Bruce Crowder, InsideHockey.com columnist James Murphy, and NHL.com columnist Bob Snow.

Former show hosts include Lon Nichols (current anchor for KLKN in Lincoln, Nebraska), Lowell Galindo (current ESPNU anchor), Tom Gauthier (current radio broadcaster and director of media relations for the Bowling Green Hot Rods), Justin Termine (current anchor and producer for NBA Radio on Sirius), Mike Gastonguay (interned as an associate producer for KXTA’s Loose Cannons), Matt Porter (Palm Beach Post Miami Hurricanes beat reporter), Steve Crowe (Boston Globe part-timer) and Ryan Heisler (noted triathlete).

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Molecular and Cellular Biology
I just want to make sure you are aware of the Molecular and Cellular Biology WikiProject. --JWSchmidt 22:49, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I was not aware of that. Thanks for pointing it out. Sampo Tiensuu 18:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:John Masters

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Given all the autobiorgraphical infromation it seems odd that the where abouts of John Masters at his time of death are not mentioned anywhere on the net I can find.

The U.S. Social Security Death Index says he died at Santa Fe, 87505, Santa Fe, New Mexico. If anyone cares. Wilfred Day (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:54, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

His decorations should be added and postnomials added. MWShort 23:22, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Departure from the army
it has always been my understanding that all the 'anglo-indian' officers in the indian army were rather unceremoniously cashiered in 1947-48.if so, i think 'he decided to leave the army'. doesn't tell quite the whole story.Toyokuni3 (talk) 15:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

 * No they weren't cashiered though a lot took premature retirement, some were kept on for a while and had to fight against the British officered Pakistani army in Kashmir etc. Dabbler (talk) 20:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

 * To be "cashiered" is possible only after being found guilty by court-martial of gross negligence or misconduct. Those British officers who were part of the Indian Army in 1948 had a choice between being allowed to resign their commissions, with a "loss of career" gratuity; transferring to one of the four Gurkha regiments which transferred to the British Army; or transferring to the British Army. Most took the first option, and as Masters himself acerbically noted, undertook courses which trained them to be the Secretaries of Golf Clubs.HLGallon (talk) 16:50, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Actually, John Masters himself gives probably the best reason as to why he left the service. He was involved with another man's wife. There were divorce proceedings and he then married her - soon after WW II I believe. Unlike in today's world, this was not considered "acceptable behavior" and was a great "No-No" in the British Indian Army at that time. As a result, he was encouraged to resign his commission. Since he gives this reason, instead of a more acceptable "British officers directed to leave the service," I suspect it is the truth. Of course, if you are familiar with the moral standards of British life in the 19th and 20th centuries, you might wonder what all the fuss was about, as everyone seemed to be sleeping with other people's spouses and not their own. Not that other countries can claim their morals were any better.Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 14:46, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

 * Read The Road past Mandalay and Pilgrim's Son. Masters began the affair some time in 1942, and married Barbara in March or early April 1945. He was asked shortly afterwards why he should not resign his commission, but his commander at the time (Major General Thomas Wynford Rees) refused to hear of it. After the war, he held a variety of appointments at GHQ India before being appointed to the prestigious post of Indian Army Instructor at the Staff College, Camberley, from which he resigned. Divorce was not a factor. HLGallon (talk) 22:46, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

 * Masters felt closest to India but feared like so many others including Jim Corbett that there would be no place for them in the New India. He did not feel at home in war-ravaged England especially as it was unlikely that he would have a suitable military career after the war. The family was poor and positioned low on the social scale. Masters felt that America would provide the best opportunity for him to live a life of dignity and where he could earnn a living. AshLin (talk) 02:27, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

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Image of Masters
I'm not into all the copyright rules for images found on the internet. Could someone look into using one of the following images for Masters' article? http://www.pollingerltd.com/estates/john_masters.htm --StephanNaro (talk) 20:10, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Treatment of India and the British Raj
Would the originator(s) like to revisit this text ?

 * Others have detected a greater sophistication in Masters' dealings with the British Empire. Both Nightrunners of Bengal and The Ravi Lancers contain sympathetic portrayals of Indian nationalists, and portray irreconcilable tensions between British and Indian characters that mirror the conflicts of the Raj in a manner comparable to E.M. Forster's A Passage to India. The descendent of the hero of the former novel (who is in practice manifestly the same character) experiences the Partition of India with a resigned detachment and later undergoes a deep personal crisis which ends with his staying on in independent India rather than returning to Britain.

I think we know what you mean, but are not sure we know what you are saying. I suggest the following revision, but might have the wrong book(s) in mind: "The protagonist of Bhowani Junction (descendent of the hero of Nightrunners of Bengal but manifestly the same character) experiences the Partition of India ..." Roop1940 (talk) 11:39, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

 * The paragraph was created by several authors, but the key sentence was written by User:Adam keller, who has not contributed to Wikipedia since 2008, so he's unlikely to reply. If you think you can improve the text, just do it! Paul B (talk) 12:40, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

The following paragraph is unacceptably POV:

"Unsurprisingly, considering the subject, Masters's works are not without their critics, many of whom simply reflect their own thinking about British imperialism rather than addressing the literary quality of Masters' work. Those who are hostile to the Empire criticise his work as revisionist—without specifying what is being "revised"—or as uncritical of the Empire. Typical are the observations of one Ronald Brydon: "For us, the saga of the Savages, heroes and conquistadors of the Raj, was a political pornography in which we savoured the illicit sensualities of imperialism."[1]"

Would someone like to clean this up so that it is non-POV? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.210.60.38 (talk) 16:15, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Citizenship status of John Masters
I seem to remember that because the Masters family had served abroad for many generations they were all born in India and so John Masters was only a British Subject not a British Citizen at the end of the war. He was therefore refused permanent residence in the UK. That was the main reason that he settled first in Spain. Enoch Powell took up his case in Parliament but failed to change the ruling. This has a similarity with the current Windrush scandal.

Can anyone provide more information on this subject ? Robert Thomas.R H L Thomas (talk) 22:55, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

 * Interesting but Masters makes no reference to this difficulty in his detailed (three volume) autobiography. He simply indicates that after Indian independence he had the option of transferring to the British Army but declined because his experience had been with Gurkha not British soldiers. He also gave brief consideration to seeking an appointment as a police commissioner in the UK. Long-term employment in the new Indian Army was apparently not possible unless he became an Indian citizen. In the end he decided on starting a new life (and eventual citizenship) in the USA, where he did rather well. Buistr (talk) 08:52, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

 * Ironically before he could become a US citizen, he was forced to apply for an Indian passport rather than a British one, as his forebears for three generations had been born in India. (Pages 224-225 of my copy of Pigrim Son, pub. Muchael Joseph 1971.) He was also placed on the Indian, rather than British, quota for immigration to the US. HLGallon (talk) 13:42, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

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Jeff Foust

Jeff Foust is an aerospace analyst, journalist and publisher. A senior aerospace analyst with the Futron Corporation in Bethesda, Maryland, he is the editor and publisher of The Space Review and has written for Astronomy Now and The New Atlantis. He was the writer of the blog Space Politics, which went on indefinite hiatus in 2014 when he accepted a position at SpaceNews.

He has a bachelor's degree in geophysics from the California Institute of Technology and a Ph.D in planetary sciences from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Publications

 * with Ron LaFon: Astronomer's Computer Companion (with CD-ROM), 1999, No Starch Press, ISBN 1-886411-22-0

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nurfing

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Nurfing
The creator of this article did us all a favor by categorizing this page as a neologism. To clear up any remaining confusion, here's the Google search.  Barfooz  (talk)  22:33, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Speedy delete - Borders on patent nonsense. Schmeitgeist 22:40, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete - no encyclopedic information contained. User: WikiWarden 23:30, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. Pavel Vozenilek 20:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Botolph of Thorney

Local Pronunciation of St. Botolph's name
Regardless what may be the "correct" pronounciation of this saint's name, here in Boston, Massachusetts it's pronounced "boTOLPH." I was in Boston, Lincolnshire a few years ago and do not recall hearing mention of "BOtolph."

--- 22:33, 5 June 2005 User:Chirho

In the UK, the stress is indeed on the first syllable: BOtolph. You Americans have difficulty with the name 'Bernard' as well. 219.113.255.196 (talk) 04:59, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Name of article
Why is this article headed 'Botwulf of Thorney'? He is generally known by the name Botolph (stressed on the first syllable) as references in the article show.Costesseyboy (talk) 00:29, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

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High school
Any idea where he went to high school or college? PAWiki 01:41, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I've never been able to find out much information about him. Beyond familiary with his work, I only know that he's from Allentown and little else. Nyutko 05:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Zines
Should this article list zines? I know of and I'd guess that there are more, though I don't know where to look for them. - Hoary (talk) 13:23, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Pain parade
 * Ne'er-do-wellers
 * Lost faces

"Comics"?
Another editor has pointed out that Beyer has long ceased to write comics and that he has produced, and continues to produce, work in other genres. Time to rename this "Mark Beyer (artist)"? -- Hoary (talk) 10:04, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

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Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation

The Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation was chartered by Congress on January 6, 1893, and oversees Washington National Cathedral and its sister institutions. The bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington serves as its chief executive officer.

The five organizations it oversees are (founding dates in parentheses):
 * Washington National Cathedral (1893)
 * National Cathedral School for girls grades 4 to 12 (1900)
 * St. Albans School for boys grades 4 to 12 (1909)
 * Beauvoir, The National Cathedral Elementary School for girls and boys grades pre-K to 3 (1933)
 * Cathedral College (College of Preachers founded in 1924, consolidated with Cathedral Program & Ministry department in 2004)


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SCOUT eh!

SCOUT eh! is an organization of "registered Scouts Canada members dedicated to transforming Scouts Canada into a democratic association". The name is an acronym for "Scouts Canada Ordinary-member Unity Taskforce Association". SCOUT eh! was founded in August, 2004. As of September, 2006 it had over 700 members from every Scouts Canada council and Canadian province.

Background
SCOUT eh! was formed in response to a restructuring within Scouts Canada leading to what its members considered to be a non democratic management structure.

In the late 1990s, Scouts Canada embarked on a restructuring process aimed at addressing the ongoing problem of membership decline. A team wrote what was officially known as the Millennium Report. The report described a dramatically more centralized and staff-directed structure for the association. The report was extremely unpopular with some portions of Scouts Canada's membership, especially those at the District level. Scouts Canada formally set aside the report, but continued work on restructuring.

In 2000, Scouts Canada replaced its General By-Law with By-Law No. 1. The amendments replaced the 52-member National Council with a 23-member Board of Governors and divided the membership into Ordinary Members, who have no voting rights; and Voting Members, a group of 100 or fewer people who elect the Board and vote on matters presented to the national Annual General Meeting.

2002 saw the implementation of restructuring. Scouts Canada passed By-Law No. 2 which replaced the Provincial, Regional, and District Councils with 20 new councils, comprising an entire province or a large part of a province. Councils are led by a Council Commissioner, appointed by Scouts Canada's volunteer Chief Commissioner. The Districts were transformed into Areas overseen by an Area Commissioner appointed by and accountable to the Council Commissioner. Scouts Canada's Ontario Incorporated Body, which is the trustee for most of the Scout camps in Ontario, began a property review process.

By 2004, dissatisfaction existed among some of Scouts Canada's membership. While some of the national leadership and staff considered the restructuring to be a success, some others at the local level objected to the changes and found the new system to be ineffective at helping Scouters deliver the program.

Activities
The first SCOUT eh! gathering, referred to as CAMP eh! was held September 24–26, 2004 at Camp Timken near Iona in Ontario. Two-dozen Scouters including Scouters from Ontario, Quebec, and Newfoundland gathered to learn about the issues, discuss strategy, and draft a constitution for the association.

Camp sales campaign
The property review had become public knowledge and Scouters were worried about losing local camps. An information session at an April, 2004 Scouts Canada conference near Toronto did not reassure all the membership. In the middle of that summer, Scouts Canada produced a list of Scout camps they wanted to close. During this time some volunteers spearheaded the creation of a committee aimed at giving the disenfranchised membership direct management of the management and direction of Scouts Canada.

Financial concerns
SCOUT eh! has been a watchdog for Scouts Canada's finances. In 2006 it published that due to a claimed fall in members, financial issues and "top-heavy management", Scouts Canada may not have been able to last much past the summer 2007 centennial celebrations. In 2007 it expressed concerns that Scouts Canada faced potential bankruptcy due to a $6-million unfunded pension liability. Scouts Canada denied the claims.

Bill S-1001, The Scouts Canada Act campaign
In September 2006, SCOUT eh! announced it had surpassed 700 members nationally. During 2006 SCOUT eh! campaigned against Bill S-1001, The Scouts Canada Act. On Monday, December 4, 2006 SCOUT eh! made their case to the Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs. In 2007 SCOUT eh! petitioned the government, arguing that;
 * The membership of Scouts Canada had not been consulted on the Bill,
 * Information about the Bill had not made available to the membership,
 * That "the Bill will make fundamental that are changes contrary to the underlying principles governing Scouting and will adversely affect the rights heretofore enjoyed by members of the Boy Scouts of Canada and will be to the detriment of the membership".

Scouts Canada Policy 1014 campaign
In 2007, Scouts Canada announced Policy 1014 which requires that each council's Voting Members be elected by representatives of the council, and its areas and groups. While it acknowledged that the system is an improvement, SCOUT eh! criticized the policy because:
 * Most members of voting age are still not allowed to vote
 * Votes are distributed in an unequal manner which favors councils, areas, and small groups
 * Ordinary Members remain many levels removed from the decision-making process of the Board of Governors, resulting in mis-communication

Haliburton campaign
In 2009 a campaign was launched against the sale of part of the Haliburton Scout Reserve, a 20 square kilometre (5000 acre) Scout camp located east of Haliburton, Ontario described as Canada's largest Scout Camp. The organisation formed an online campaign against the sale of a 100-acre parcel of land for $1.3 million.

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120-111

 * 120. Stutterfly - "Gun in Hand" from And We Are Bled of Color
 * 119. Shadows Fall - "Inspiration on Demand" from The War Within
 * 118. Seether - "Truth" from Karma and Effect
 * 117. lcd soundsystem - "Daft Punk Is Playing at My House" from lcd soundsystem
 * 116. Jimmy Eat World - "Work" from Futures
 * 115. Queens of the Stone Age - "Burn the Witch" from Lullabies to Paralyze
 * 114. Sum 41 - "Pieces" from Chuck
 * 113. Kasabian - "Club Foot" from Kasabian
 * 112. Disturbed - "Stricken" from Ten Thousand Fists
 * 111. My Morning Jacket - "Off the Record" from Z

110-101

 * 110. Mudvayne - "Forget to Remember" from Lost and Found
 * 109. Staind - "Right Here" from Chapter V
 * 108. Slipknot - "Before I Forget" from Vol. 3 (The Subliminal Verses)
 * 107. Alkaline Trio - "Mercy Me" from Crimson
 * 106. Relient K - "Be My Escape" from Mmhmm
 * 105. Six Feet Under - "Deathklaat" from 13
 * 104. My Chemical Romance - "Helena" from Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge
 * 103. The White Stripes - "My Doorbell" from Get Behind Me Satan
 * 102. Hawthorne Heights - "Ohio Is for Lovers" from The Silence in Black and White
 * 101. Millencolin - "Ray" from Kingwood

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 * 99. Children of Bodom - "In Your Face" from Are You Dead Yet?
 * 98. Incubus - "Make a Move" from the Stealth soundtrack
 * 97. Rise Against - "Swing Life Away" from Siren Song of the Counter Culture
 * 96. KoЯn - "Twisted Transistor" from See You on the Other Side
 * 95. Fall Out Boy - "Sugar, We're Goin' Down from From Under the Cork Tree
 * 94. It Dies Today - "Enjoy the Silence" from the Masters of Horror soundtrack
 * 93. Senses Fail - "Rum Is for Drinking, Not for Burning" from Let It Enfold You
 * 92. Kings of Leon - "Four Kicks" from Aha Shake Heartbreak
 * 91. Unearth - "Endless" from The Oncoming Storm

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 * 89. Bon Jovi - "Have a Nice Day" from Have a Nice Day
 * 88. Death Cab for Cutie - "Soul Meets Body" from Plans
 * 87. Kaiser Chiefs - "Oh My God" from Employment
 * 86. My Chemical Romance - "The Ghost of You" from Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge
 * 85. Kings of Leon - "The Bucket" from Aha Shake Heartbreak
 * 84. Papa Roach - "Scars" from Getting Away with Murder
 * 83. Seether - "Remedy" from Karma and Effect
 * 82. Static-X - "I'm the One" from Start a War
 * 81. Bloc Party - "Helicopter" from Silent Alarm

80-71

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 * 79. Jack Johnson - "Sitting, Waiting, Wishing" from In Between Dreams
 * 78. From First to Last - "Note to Self" from Dear Diary, My Teen Angst Has a Body Count
 * 77. Clutch - "Burning Beard" from Robot Hive/Exodus
 * 76. Thrice - "Image of the Invisible" from Vheissu
 * 75. King's X - "Alone" from Ogre Tones
 * 74. No Warning - "Bad Timing" from Suffer, Survive
 * 73. Queens of the Stone Age - "In My Head" from Lullabies to Paralyze
 * 72. Cephalic Carnage - "Dying Will Be the Death of Me" from Anomalies
 * 71. Fear Factory - "Moment of Impact" from Transgression

70-61

 * 70. Beck - "Girl" from Guero
 * 69. The Futureheads - "Area" from Area
 * 68. The Black Dahlia Murder - "A Vulgar Picture" from Miasma
 * 67. The Used - "I Caught Fire (In Your Eyes)" from In Love and Death
 * 66. The White Stripes - "Blue Orchid" from Get Behind Me Satan
 * 65. Strapping Young Lad - "Love?" from Alien
 * 64. Taproot - "Calling" from Blue-Sky Research
 * 63. Matchbook Romance - "My Eyes Burn" from Stories and Alibis
 * 62. Buckethead f/ Serj Tankian - "We Are One" from the Masters of Horror soundtrack
 * 61. Avenged Sevenfold - "Bat Country" from City of Evil

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 * 59. Audioslave - "Doesn't Remind Me" from Out of Exile
 * 58. Mando Diao - "Down in the Past" from Hurricane Bar
 * 57. Transplants - "Gangsters and Thugs" from Haunted Cities
 * 56. Straylight Run - "Existentialism on Prom Night" from Straylight Run
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 * 54. HORSE the band - "Birdo" from THEMECHANICALHAND
 * 53. Strung Out - "Analog" from Exile in Oblivion
 * 52. Queens of the Stone Age - "Little Sister" from Lullabies to Paralyze
 * 51. Mando Diao - "You Can't Steal My Love" from Hurricane Bar

50-41

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 * 49. dope - "Survive" from American Apathy
 * 48. Kasabian - "L.S.F." from Kasabian
 * 47. The Dillinger Escape Plan - "Unretrofied" from Miss Machine
 * 46. Mastodon - "Blood and Thunder" from Leviathan
 * 45. Supergrass - "St. Petersburg" from Road to Rouen
 * 44. Chevelle - "The Clincher" from This Type of Thinking (Could Do Us In)
 * 43. 30 Seconds to Mars - "Attack" from A Beautiful Lie
 * 42. TRUSTcompany - "Stronger" from True Parallels
 * 41. Kaiser Chiefs - "I Predict a Riot" from Employment

40-31

 * 40. System of a Down - "Hypnotize" from Hypnotize
 * 39. Mudvayne - "Happy?" from Lost and Found
 * 38. Hate Eternal - "I, Monarch" from I, Monarch
 * 37. Foo Fighters - "Best of You" from In Your Honor
 * 36. I Can Make a Mess Like Nobody's Business - "The Best Happiness Money Can Buy" from I Can Make a Mess Like Nobody's Business
 * 35. Bloc Party - "Banquet" from Silent Alarm
 * 34. Muse - "Stockholm Syndrome" from Absolution
 * 33. Secret Machines - "The Road Leads Where It's Led" from Now Here Is Nowhere
 * 32. Obituary - "Insane" from Frozen in Time
 * 31. Revelation Theory - "Slowburn" from Truth Is Currency

30-21

 * 30. Coheed and Cambria - "The Suffering" from Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness
 * 29. Beck - "E-Pro" from Guero
 * 28. Audioslave - "Your Time Has Come" from Out of Exile
 * 27. Nine Inch Nails - "Only" from With Teeth
 * 26. Velvet Revolver - "Dirty Little Thing" from Contraband
 * 25. A Static Lullaby - "Stand Up" from Faso Latido
 * 24. The Arcade Fire - "Rebellion (Lies)" from Funeral
 * 23. Eighteen Visions - "I Let Go" from Obsession
 * 22. Coheed and Cambria - "Welcome Home" from Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness
 * 21. Finch - "Bitemarks and Bloodstains" from Say Hello to Sunshine

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 * 19. The Mars Volta - "L'Via L'Viaquez" from Frances the Mute
 * 18. The Haunted - "No Compromise" from rEVOLVEr
 * 17. Nine Inch Nails - "The Hand that Feeds" from With Teeth
 * 16. Alkaline Trio - "Time to Waste" from Crimson
 * 15. Napalm Death - "Silence Is Deafening" from The Code Is Red...Long Live the Code
 * 14. Throwdown - "Burn" from Vendetta
 * 13. Mando Diao - "God Knows" from Hurricane Bar
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 * 11. High on Fire - "Devilution" from Blessed Black Wings

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 * 9. Breaking Benjamin - "Sooner or Later" from We Are Not Alone
 * 8. Armor for Sleep - "Car Underwater" from What to Do When You Are Dead
 * 7. Hot Hot Heat - "Middle of Nowhere" from Elevator
 * 6. Foo Fighters - "DOA" from In Your Honor
 * 5. The Futureheads - "Decent Days and Nights" from The Futureheads
 * 4. The Used - "All That I've Got" from In Love and Death
 * 3. System of a Down - "B.Y.O.B." from Mezmerize
 * 2. The Decemberists - "Sixteen Military Wives" from Picaresque
 * 1. The Mars Volta - "The Widow" from Frances the Mute

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Talk:Santa Barbara, California

Spanish for "Saint Barbara"
That's not true. "Saint Barbara" would be "Santa Bárbara". Leaving out the accent is a grave spelling mistake, which leads to a pronunciation mistake. Of course, the English name has no accent, but when talking about the Spanish translation, the correct form should be mentioned. --94.134.89.251 (talk) 01:14, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

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Photo request
If anyone local is reading this, it would be great to have a photo of the plaque in remembrance of the MV Conception victims that was put at the SB harbor. TY in advance jengod (talk) 03:23, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * https://ktla.com/news/local-news/a-year-after-conception-boat-fire-plaque-at-santa-barbara-harbor-commemorates-34-victims/
 * https://keyt.com/news/santa-barbara-s-county/2020/09/02/special-plaque-created-for-the-conception-memorial-site/

 * Thanks for the note Jengod - I will see if I can get out to the Yacht Club in the nearish future - if anyone else gets there first that's fine too. Antandrus (talk) 03:35, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Wow fastest reply ever. Thanks so much for even considering it. best jengod (talk) 03:40, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Jengod - I took a whole bunch of pictures out there this morning, and have uploaded one: File:MVConception_Memorial_Plaque.jpg - let me know if that works (I added it to the Sinking of MV Conception article) - thanks :) Antandrus (talk) 21:37, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. I know the families will be happy to have this included on Wikipedia. You did good. jengod (talk) 22:47, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Wildfires
I don’t understand “…and drop humidities into the single digits, increasing the chance due to downed power lines, etc., and severity of wildfires in the …”.

Does the heat itself cause downed lines? Or is it that the heat and dryness increases the likelihood and severity of fires, which could be started by downed power lines or the etc? Pbackstrom (talk) 01:46, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

 * It's the winds that knock down the power lines - "Sundowner" winds can be very very strong (60-70 mph is not uncommon) and they desiccate because of the adiabatic effect of compression as they come over and down from the mountain ridge; it can be a hundred degrees at sea level with humidities in the single digits during one of those events. In 1990 the Painted Cave fire erupted in such circumstances and destroyed over 500 homes in just a couple of hours. Antandrus (talk) 01:49, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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