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Talk:Laser Quest

Closure
As of August 16th, Laser Quest has shut down all of its locations in North America. I know this because I was an employee of the company. We were given only one day's notice.

If you try to book a time online through their website, there are no available time slots.

A press release has not yet been issued regarding the closure, but every centre has the same notice of permanent closure stuck to the front door. Thus, this information is publicly available for those willing to visit a centre.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3d09:c83:5c00:399e:7615:f07f:d193 (talk) 08:00, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Lasertag wiki
so now theres a lasertag wiki so if any of you feel like adding articles, or adding stuff to the articles that are already there.. go ahead. 208.58.38.36 (talk) 04:17, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

More Information
I work at Laser Quest, I have added the rules about lying down,and etc. On every HHU, or laser, in the LCD it will tell you your rank and current score most of the times when tagged. The unit that sends and receive pack information is called HSDU, or High Speed Datalink Unit. its true it tells your score and rank every 3 deactivations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.126.131 (talk) 06:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

GUILDFORD TCQ ARE THE BEST TEAM

Please don't edit info that should be there some may be questionable but some could be left alone for instance i know a lot of members that think all the packs are not the same and keep track of them but they are tested and fixed regularly so one pack that may seem not as good will be fixed within 24 hours and laying down and crouching is not allowed in any type of play its in the players code —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.126.131 (talk) 06:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Unusual game types
I've also written a section on unusual game types, i.e. those that are not programmed as default into most systems. They can be seen at User:SeventyThree/LQ-unusual. I'm not sure if they should go in the article or not.SeventyThree 21:10, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

According to Google, Laser Quest is still available as Laser Quest in America. And when I used to play, the wireless connection to the central computer was all through the game, so it could tell you your position and who you hit during the (unsigned comment by 57.66.51.165, at 14:38, 7 October 2005. SeventyThree(Talk) 16:56, 10 October 2005 (UTC))

 * I have no experience of LQ in america. Feel free to edit the article if you think it needs adding to.
 * The wireless connection to the central computer where I play is intermittent, so the scores are only updated if you wander past the 'airlock'. As such, they are quite unreliable.SeventyThree(Talk) 16:56, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Suggested Merge
I suggested that this page be merged with Laser Tag. They're both very similar (if the same) game. - Icecradle 20:10, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Like I stated on the Lasertag talk page, LaserQuest is just one type of Laser Tag. They should stay as separate articles. ParticleMan 23:30, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

This article features a lot of information, that is specifically relevant to LaserQuest, but not applicable to all other tag systems. As it is I think that some of the stuff in the main Lasertag article is ambiguous. I think that all the tag systems should have a separate article, like this one, and that anything in the Lasertag article that definately only applies to one tag system should be moved to the article for that system. Big Mac 02:39, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I am removeing the merge to laser tag, laserquest is a type of laser tag yes but it is unique in many ways --Kylehamilton 11:48, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I think merging this article is an incredibly bad idea. It is unfortunately easy with such things as the number of LQ locations Versent operates in North America for one to think at first LQ is the alpha and omega of laser tag, but this is far from the case. Shawn K. Quinn 06:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Category change
This category should be 'Laser Quest' not 'LaserQuest'. The actual copyrighted term for this particular brand of laser tag uses a space between the two words. Xipheas.

Trademarked, not copyrighted, and that trademark may be just the way the name is trademarked in North America, as I think some UK sites use the no-space version. Shawn K. Quinn 06:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah sorry.. trademark :) And in the UK it's supposed to have a space, but some people don't realise. But that's like spelling Laser with a 'z'. Incorrect :) Xiph.

A Few Changes
Some of the information such as game parameters and strategies do not apply to the center I attend in Massachusetts. I've made edits to reflect this:

-Added 15 minutes as a recommended game time for a normal game in addition to 20. (June 22, 2006)

-We use a 5 second down time, so I noted that as well. (June 22, 2006)

-The cancelling, as far as some of the employees of my center are concerned, is fiction. There is a small chance that it works with some centers, so I merely am attaching a note, rather than deleting it entirely. (June 22, 2006)

--Shot cancellation does exit, although its effect on the game is frequently exaggerated by players more familiar with other system where it is easier to tag a player for various reasons (often the narrow spread of the infrared beam compared to other systems).

-Changed a small amount of terminology. (June 22, 2006)

-Split LaserQuest into two words, since that is the official company name, where necessary. (June 22, 2006)

-The intro to the "problems" section refers to "two of three" problems. This does not make a great deal of sense, so I changed it to "two or three." (June 22, 2006)

-I have also edited this discussion piece by adding the date(s) I made these edits. (June 22, 2006)

-Correction, I was a bit off. Hit cancellation does actually work. Fixed my mistake. (June 23, 2006)

-Bakodo

what does nac mean??? can someone explain this to me??? please???!!!

Well, Anonymous person, NAC stands for North America Challenge, which is a competition where every North American LQ center sends a team to compete. -Bakodo

hey sorry about that, that was my gf, something about you not explaining that in the article. whatever 04:08, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

More Updates
Hey, I'm just an LQ Widow, not a NAC player, so I didn't make any significant changes to facts. I tried to clean up the style and writing a bit. I did have some trouble doing that with the game styles page; I'll have one of the former NAC blokes I know (probably the one I'm married to) go over it and make any needed changes there. I'm still leaving the note up, as I haven't been able to go over everything, and as I'm still relatively new to Wikipedia. Sanji DarkAsSin 20:13, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

cost is different from place to play i know ones in Washington are 8 bucks - some on east coast are 9 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.126.131 (talk) 04:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * On average how much does Laser Quest cost? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.249.219.17 (talk) 19:16, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Spokane
Deleted description of certain aspects of the Spokane maze. Unless we're going to describe all the other locations, it seemed pointless to include. 69.85.184.93 04:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Spokane is the biggest in the country seemed reasonable to mention it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.126.131 (talk) 06:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

original research/unverified claims
I can understand the concern over original research; what is the proper way to document the common knowledge of many current and former LQ players as a source? A lot of the stuff in articles like this will be original research because so few books or permanent Web sites are written about LQ and laser tag. Shawn K. Quinn 06:30, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Fustration over recent edits
From what I have seen over the past few weeks there have been several attempts by myself and other people who play laser quest to improve this article with pertinent information and links. However, our efforts are getting fustrated (and subsequently creating fustration) by people who not only appear to know nothing about the game, but are unwilling to do a bit of "leg work" to look at the links that are provided. Please do not lecture me about wikipedia rules on author ownership or such. This seems like weasel words and sheer laziness on the part of the people who are trolling about constantly undoing the edits. What can be done to make those of you who seem to take pride in reverting without really investingating something to stop doing so? Does this artice require mediation? I want to see this article at its best, but this does not mean undoing and challanging the minorest of revisions to it, does it? Because franklly the behaviour of those who have been doind these reverts seems absurd. Rocdahut (talk) 08:21, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * After our recent discussions, I assume that I am one of the persons you are talking about in this comment. Content of Wikipedia articles needs to be verifiable by others, both by people who know Laser Quest and by people who don't. Verifiability is established by providing reliable sources that use a specific term or make a specific assertion. You haven't provided a reliable source using the term "Denver download" yet. And as outlined in Verifiability, "the burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged should be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation. The source should be cited clearly and precisely to enable readers to find the text that supports the article content in question." In other words, it's up to you to "prove" why the term "Denver download" belongs in this article, it's not up to me to prove why it doesn't.
 * And when you say to someone "do not revert if you do not play the game", you are claiming ownership of an article. Asking for citations is not a right reserved to people who know Laser Quest.
 * I have tried to explain this calmly and civilly on our talk pages, when we discussed this matter there, and I am willing to discuss this calmly and civilly here. But I will not put up with insinuations of trolling. A  ecis Brievenbus 12:36, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

AFD notice
During copy editing I removed content from this articles and created North America Challenge, after some consideration and my inability to find reliable sourcing for the article I decided that it should be deleted and have started a discussion at Articles for deletion/North America Challenge it also includes the articles North America Challenge 2007 and North America Challenge 2006. Gnangarra 11:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

 * If North America Challenge does get deleted, I suggest its content get merged back into this article. The more recent results can be verified here --CptNimrod (talk) 04:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what qualifies as a reliable source for you but at the bottom of the following website is the records for NAC straight from LQ's Corporate website. NAC Records over the years --NepentheLQ (talk) 12:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

With the above cited website as a historical link for all NAC's past I've replaced the deleted content at least on the main page. I did not restore any sub articles. --NepentheLQ (talk) 12:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Gnangarra, it's REAL easy to find the history page and undo the BS that you are doing. I have no problem doing that. I am curious why you are trying to remove the NAC history? I have included the link (above) for citation, but I don't know how you wanted cited on the page nor do I really care to figure it out. If you want to be a jerk about it and not discuss what you are doing or why then I guess there is nothing I can do about it other than restore the page each time. If you care to discuss why you are making these changes I'm sure someone would listen. Trying to hide MAJOR edits (i.e. removing the NAC results table) under the guise of removing irrelevant content (i.e. Notable members) is not very ethical, and I'm pretty sure can get you in trouble. You clearly have the knowledge to cite sources on here so instead of being destructive why don't you help us out and cite the source properly for us. See the link above. --NepentheLQ (talk) 14:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Laser Quest web page is not a reliable sources its a primary source, the table of result is not notable. While your at it go and discuss the NAC information with the wider community at Articles for deletion/North America Challenge Gnangarra 00:29, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

There are news group posts at alt.sport.lasertag (search NAC 19XX or 20XX results up until '03) or lqarena.com for everything '04 to present and I was at the '98, '00 - '03, '05 - '06, and soon to be '08 NAC tournaments. I can find you other players to post up here and verify the results if that helps you at all. It's not like LQ makes it onto sports center or anything, and we're lucky to make our local newspapers when we win the tournaments so you might need to cut us a little slack. It's not like we're re-writing the Declaration of Independence here... It's a game, and the data in that table is accurate. Stop getting your rocks off with your citation needed hammer, and go pick on worthy causes. --24.223.232.46 (talk) 00:04, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

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Hammerstein Ballroom

The Hammerstein Ballroom is a 12,000 sqft ballroom located within the Manhattan Center at 311 West 34th Street in Midtown Manhattan, New York City. The capacity of the ballroom is dependent on the configuration of the room; it seats 2,500 people for theatrical productions and musical performances, and several thousand for events held within a central ring. The floor of the ballroom is flat. The two main balconies – which are unusually close to the ground and gently sloped – seat a total of 1,200. The third balcony has been stripped of seats and is not used.

History
The Manhattan Center was constructed in 1906 by Oscar Hammerstein I as the Manhattan Opera House, the home for his Manhattan Opera Company, an alternative to the popular yet comparatively expensive Metropolitan Opera. In 1910, the Metropolitan Opera paid Hammerstein $1.2 million to stop operating the Manhattan Opera House as an opera venue for ten years. This led to the elaborately decorated theater being used for a variety of events, including vaudeville.

The ownership of the center changed hands multiple times over the next few decades, with the theater being converted into a large ballroom and being used as a Freemason's temple in the 1930s and a trade union headquarters in the 1940s before falling into disuse in the 1970s, before being bought by Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church, the ballroom's current owner. The building was renamed Manhattan Center Studios in 1986, and in 1997 the former theater was renamed the Hammerstein Ballroom and underwent extensive renovation, with the hand painted ceiling being completely restored.

Notable events
The Hammerstein Ballroom has seen performances from a wide variety of musical acts and its popularity has varied over the years due mainly to competition within the neighborhood.

 * In April 1971 the Grateful Dead recorded several tracks for the live album, Skull & Roses, which became the band's first RIAA gold album ever.
 * The professional wrestling promotion Extreme Championship Wrestling staged some of its events from the Ballroom. Starting in August 2000, ECW staged two back to back shows before holding its final two pay-per-view events, Massacre on 34th Street in December 2000 and Guilty as Charged in 2001. The Ballroom then hosted the first two WWE-promoted ECW One Night Stand pay-per-views, in June 2005 and June 2006.
 * On September 23, 2010, Total Nonstop Action Wrestling held their show in the Ballroom for the first time.
 * Jane's Addiction recorded the 1997 Halloween Show of their reunion tour at the Hammerstein Ballroom, with the band's members performing some numbers in their encore from the balcony.
 * In 1997, Bryan Adams recorded his album Unplugged at the Hammerstein Ballroom. He was backed by students of the Juilliard School of Music in the orchestra.
 * On July 7, 1999, Britney Spears performed to a sold-out crowd as part of her ...Baby One More Time Tour. It marked the singer's first solo concert in New York City.
 * Patti LaBelle recorded her DVD Live! One Night Only at 2 sold-out concert at the Hammerstein Ballroom with special guests Luther Vandross and Mariah Carey. It was released in 1998 and later won her a Grammy Award.
 * Boy band O-Town performed at the ballroom on the last night of their concert tour in 2001. The concert was filmed and was released as O-Town: Live from New York.
 * Alt-rock band Incubus played at the Hammerstein on September 15, 2001, at a time when nearly all other bands scheduled to perform in New York City canceled their appearances in the wake of the September 11th terrorist attacks.
 * Metal band Avenged Sevenfold recorded live performances for their DVD All Excess.
 * The popular rock/jam band O.A.R. released a live album in 2004, 34th & 8th, which was recorded at the Hammerstein Ballroom.
 * In 2002, NASCAR held its annual end-of-season awards ceremony in the Ballroom, the only time since 1985 the end-of-season awards ceremony was not held in the Waldorf-Astoria Grand Ballroom.
 * The metal band Korn recorded their DVD Live at the Hammerstein Ballroom.
 * Iron Maiden was scheduled to perform four concerts at the Ballroom on 23, 24, 26 and 27 January 2004, for their Dance of Death World Tour. The second show was cut short after one audience member dropped a beer on the soundboard, while the final concert was cancelled due to a scheduling conflict.
 * In May 2006, hard rock band Guns N' Roses played 4 sold-out shows at the venue as a "warm up" for the 2006/07 leg of their Chinese Democracy Tour.
 * In November 2006, David Bowie gave his final public performance at the venue.
 * The professional wrestling promotion Ring Of Honor has hosted DVD and TV tapings as well as pay-per-view events at the Hammerstein Ballroom since A New Level in 2008, having also used the adjacent Grand Ballroom regularly for events. These include Manhattan Mayhem events 6th, 7th, 8th and 10th Anniversary Show: Young Wolves Rising, Supercard of Honor V and Supercard of Honor VII, Best in the World 2011 Best in the World 2012: Hostage Crisis, Glory By Honor V : Night 2, Glory By Honor VI : Night Two, Glory by Honor VIII: The Final Countdown, Glory By Honor IX, Death Before Dishonor VI, Death Before Dishonor IX, and most Final Battle events.  They also co-hosted events in the venue with New Japan Pro-Wrestling, with ROH/NJPW War of the Worlds (2014). and Night 3 of ROH/NJPW War of the Worlds (2017).
 * Several shows have been taped here, including some seasons of NBC's America's Got Talent and part of the third season of the Bergeron version of Hollywood Squares.
 * Thirty Seconds to Mars played their 300th sold out World Record show on December 7, 2011.
 * All Time Low recorded their first live DVD titled Straight to DVD at the Hammerstein Ballroom.
 * Sony hosted a reveal event of the PlayStation 4 console at the Ballroom.
 * Howard Stern held his 60th Birthday Bash at the Ballroom on January 31, 2014.
 * On October 17–18, 2014, May 28, 2016, and July 14, 2018, virtual singer and Vocaloid character Hatsune Miku performed at the Hammerstein Ballroom as part of Crypton Future Media's Miku Expo concerts.
 * On October 30, 2016, Hammerstein Ballroom became the Manhattan services venue of Hillsong Church NYC. Four services are scheduled to be held there each Sunday. ''.
 * On September 28, 2019, New Japan Pro-Wrestling hosted the last professional wrestling event in the Venue Fighting Spirit Unleashed New York. They also co-hosted events in the venue with Ring of Honor, with ROH/NJPW War of the Worlds (2014) and Night 3 of ROH/NJPW War of the Worlds (2017).
 * On February 8, 2020, the New York Excelsior of the Overwatch League held the esports league's first homestand, a hybrid home-and-away format similar to other professional sports leagues, at a sold-out Ballroom.
 * On January 23, 2022, Game Changer Wrestling presented The Wrld On GCW. This event set a Hammerstein Ballroom record for attendance.
 * On July 7, 2023, Irish rock band The Saw Doctors returned for their first show in the United States in 10 years. This would be only 1 of 2 shows they are scheduled to perform in the US during their 2023 revival tour.

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Talk:Flag of Nova Scotia

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what is the national flower of nova scotia called?
 * Epigaea repens --BarLaf 02:27, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Flag
Why is the SVG type insisted upon? The kind up there now is incorrect. Better to have the correct flag of a different format.Habsfannova 00:24, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Because SVG type files should be used for flags, for quality and filesize reasons. I've taken your complaint to our WP:Flags at the Commons. — Nightst a  llion  (?) 09:27, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Is that better? ;)  Denelson83  09:46, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, thank you very much. I didn't mean to sound like a complainer, I was just wondering why SVG files are used instead.  Thanks again.Habsfannova 01:32, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I tried to change the flag to the correct proportions but I did something wrong and it got reverted. Someone with more wikipedia skill/patience should change it. Macdougal 15:57, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Could you please specify what exactly is wrong at the flag's talk page on the commons? Thanks! — Nightst a  llion  (?) Seen this already? 19:47, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

1929?
Should 1929 be marked as the first year its been used? http://www.gov.ns.ca/legislature/HOUSE_OF_ASSEMBLY/Symbols/flag.htm --BarLaf 14:58, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

 * No, 1929 was the year the English Heraldry's official coat of arms for Nova Scotia, granted in 1868, was revoked to give primacy to the Scottish heraldry's official coat of arms for Nova Scotia, which was granted in 1625. The flag has never been officially designated by the province, but unofficially came into usage starting in 1858.#REDIRECT []
 * Incidentally, I will change the erroneous claim about the flag being more than 3 centuries older than the Fleurdelise.AnthroGael 15:51, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Previous flag
Why no mention of ? F IT — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.227.136.65 (talk) 17:21, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

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User:LOST-SCOTTIE

I use the name lost-SCOTTIE due to my love for the greatest country in the world Scotland. i was given the oppertunity to go the birth place of my Father.i tried to become a citezen of Scotland but denide,even though my father never denounced his Scottish citezenship.to bad sinse i believe i am TRULY Scottish. FREEDOM FOR SCOTLAND...

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Volkov (crater)

Volkov is a lunar impact crater on the Moon's far side. It is located to the north of the prominent crater Tsiolkovskiy, and east-southeast of Dobrovol'skiy. Overlying the southeastern rim of Volkov is the satellite crater Volkov J, and the two have merged to form a figure-8 shape. The crater Lander is attached to the southwest rim of Volkov J, making this a triple-crater formation.

The outer rim of Volkov is moderately eroded, with a small crater across the northeast rim and a gap in the southeast where it joins Volkov J. The inner walls are relatively featureless, with a few tiny craterlets marking the surface. The interior floor of the crater is lumpy, with low hills and a few tiny craterlets.

It is named after Russian–Soviet cosmonaut Vladislav Volkov, who died in Soyuz 11 mission on 30 June 1971 during the vehicle's return to the Earth. The name was approved by the IAU in 1973.

Satellite craters
By convention these features are identified on lunar maps by placing the letter on the side of the crater midpoint that is closest to Volkov.

The name Heine was proposed for Volkov J crater, but this was rejected by the IAU. The name was eventually used for a crater on Mercury in 1979.

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Kip McKean

Thomas Wayne "Kip" McKean II (born May 31, 1954) is an American former minister of the International Churches of Christ and former World Missions Evangelist of the International Christian Churches, also known as the "Portland/Sold-Out Discipling Movement".

Personal Life and Education
McKean's father was a Rear Admiral in the US Navy. McKean has a brother and a sister. He is married and has three children."

Kip baptized his brother, Randy, in 1973. Randy then served as an Evangelist in what became the denomination Kip founded, the International Churches of Christ. He served as an Evangelist until his retirement.

McKean graduated from the University of Florida in 1975 with a degree in Speech and Communications. He later attended Eastern Baptist Theological Seminary, but left over disputes with university academics about their liberal views on the Bible. He also faced criticism from other ministers for his own strict personal style. McKean also attended the Harding Graduate School of Religion for two years but never received a Master's degree.

McKean's negative academic experience, combined with his success as an evangelist, convinced him that seminary education was not effective at training evangelists. Instead he developed a mentoring "discipleship" approach modeled on the Apostle Paul's mentoring of Timothy and Titus as well as McKean's own earlier mentoring by pastor Chuck Lucas who started the Crossroads Movement in Gainesville, Florida.

Lexington Church of Christ
McKean moved to the Boston area in 1979 and began working in the Lexington Church of Christ. He asked them to "redefine their commitment to Christ," and introduced the use of discipling partners. The congregation grew rapidly, and was renamed the Boston Church of Christ.

The International Churches of Christ
In the mid-1980s, McKean became leader of both Boston and Crossroads Movements, eventually splitting from mainstream Churches of Christ, to become the International Church of Christ (ICOC).

The movement was first recognized as an independent religious group in 1992 when John Vaughn, a church growth specialist at Fuller Theological Seminary, listed them as a separate entity. Time magazine ran a full-page story on the movement in 1992 calling them "one of the world's fastest-growing and most innovative bands of Bible thumpers" that had grown into "a global empire of 103 congregations from California to Cairo with total Sunday attendance of 50,000", and which also raised concerns about authoritarian leadership, pressure placed on members, and whether the group should be considered a cult.

A formal break was made from the mainline Churches of Christ in 1993 when the movement organized under the name "International Churches of Christ." This new designation formalized a division that was already in existence between those involved with the Crossroads/Boston Movement and "mainline" Churches of Christ.

In 1990, the McKeans moved to Los Angeles to lead the Los Angeles International Church of Christ, where they presided through the 1990s.

Resignation from the International Churches of Christ
Beginning in the late 1990s, McKean's moral authority as the leader of the movement came into question. Expectations for continued numerical growth and the pressure to sacrifice financially to support missionary efforts took its toll. Added to this was the loss of local leaders to new planting projects. In some areas, decreases in membership began to occur. At the same time, the realization was growing that the accumulated cost of his leadership style and associated advantages were outweighing the benefits. In 2001, McKean was asked by a group of long-standing elders in the ICOC to take a sabbatical from overall leadership of the ICOC. On 12 November 2001, McKean wrote that he had decided to take a sabbatical from his role as the leader of the International Churches of Christ. He issued the following statement: "During these days Elena and I have been coming to grips with the need to address some serious shortcomings in our marriage and family. After much counsel with the Gempels and Bairds and other World Sector Leaders as well as hours of prayer, we have decided it is God's will for us to take a sabbatical and to delegate, for a time, our day-to-day ministry responsibilities so that we can focus on our marriage and family."

One year later, In November 2002, McKean announced his resignations from his roles as World Missions Evangelist and leader of the world sector leaders. He cited ongoing family problems, apologized for his own arrogance and said that his sins "have weakened and embittered many in our churches", and "these sins have surfaced in my family as well as the church." A year earlier one of his children had left the church. Referring to this event, McKean said: "This, along with my leadership sins of arrogance, and not protecting the weak caused uncertainty in my leadership among some of the World Sector Leaders." Additionally, his over emphasis on numerical goals, not seeking discipling in his own life and claiming God's victories as his own, were cited by McKean as the reasons for his resignation.

His resignation was acknowledged by a letter from the elders the following day.

After a period leading an ICOC congregation in Portland, Oregon, he started a new church separated from the ICOC. This movement was named the International Christian Church by him. The period following McKean's resignation from leadership and departure was followed by a number of changes in the ICOC.

International Christian Church
On 15 October 2006, McKean published in the Portland church bulletin the first of a three-part series entitled, "Partners in the Gospel." Though the names "Portland Movement" and "Sold-Out Discipling Movement" had been used for over a year, these three articles were the first formal announcement of the birth of the International Christian Church. It was only after this October 2006 date that any church affiliated with the Portland Church changed their name to ICC.

Since 2006, the congregations under McKean's leadership have been called the International Christian Church.

In April 2007, McKean and his wife Elena left the Portland International Christian Church to plant the City of Angels International Christian Church in Los Angeles. McKean and his wife were accompanied by 40 other leaders from the Portland ICC.

In 2008, McKean began the benevolent arm of the movement: Mercy WorldWide.

In 2012, the founding of the International College of Christian Ministries (ICCM) occurred. "Bachelor’s, Master’s and Doctorate Degrees are granted according to the SoldOut Movement’s convictions."

In late 2022 and early 2023, McKean was named as a defendant in several federal lawsuits alleging that the International Churches of Christ and the International Christian Church "covered up sexual abuse of children as young as three years old and financially exploited church members". The federal lawsuits were withdrawn by the plaintiffs in July 2023 and replaced by four Los Angeles Superior Court Cases with similar claims of sexual abuse of minors [Case Nos. 23STCV16423, 23STCV16430, 23STCV18426 and 23STCV24432].

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Homer the Vigilante

"Homer the Vigilante" is the eleventh episode of the fifth season of the American animated television series The Simpsons. It originally aired on the Fox network in the United States on January 6, 1994. In the episode, a crime wave caused by an elusive cat burglar plagues Springfield. Lisa is distraught when her saxophone is stolen, and Homer promises to get it back. The police are ineffective, so Homer takes charge of a neighborhood watch. Under his leadership, it becomes a vigilante group which fails to catch the burglar. With the help of Grampa, Homer discovers that the burglar is a charming senior named Molloy. Molloy is arrested, but he outwits the citizens of Springfield and escapes.

The episode was written by John Swartzwelder and directed by Jim Reardon. Sam Neill guest starred in the episode as Molloy. "Homer the Vigilante" was selected for release in a 1997 video collection of selected episodes titled: The Simpsons: Crime and Punishment. It features cultural references to films such as It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World and Dr. Strangelove.

Since airing, the episode has received positive reviews from television critics. It acquired a Nielsen rating of 12.2, and was the highest-rated show on the Fox network the week it aired.

Plot
One night, the Simpson family's house is robbed by a cat burglar while the family sleeps; the next morning, the family finds out that several other houses in Springfield have been robbed. The town's residents arm themselves and install security devices to thwart the burglar. A neighborhood watch group is formed and Homer is elected as its leader. The street patrol soon devolves into a vigilante group whose members violate laws instead of catching criminals. When Homer is interviewed on news anchor Kent Brockman's Smartline, the cat burglar calls into the show and reveals he plans to steal the world's largest cubic zirconia from the Springfield museum.

Homer's posse guards the museum, refusing the help of Grampa, who is accompanied by Jasper and Molloy, two of his friends from the Springfield Retirement Castle. After Homer spots a group of teenagers drinking beer, he leaves his post to intervene, but gets drunk with them instead. When the cat burglar subsequently steals the zirconia, Homer is blamed and pelted with fruits and vegetables by the unforgiving townspeople. Later, Grampa deduces that Molloy is the cat burglar and tells his family. Homer captures Molloy at the Retirement Castle, and the surprisingly amiable cat burglar returns the objects he stole. Nevertheless, Chief Wiggum arrests and imprisons Molloy.

At the police station, Molloy tells Homer and the police officers that he has hidden a large amount of stolen money under a giant "T" somewhere in Springfield. Homer and the police officers abruptly leave the station, hoping to find the buried treasure; the commotion attracts dozens of other Springfield residents, who then become determined to find the treasure themselves. After checking several possible sites, the crowd returns to get more information from Molloy, who directs them to a large, T-shaped palm tree on the outskirts of town. The residents excavate the site, but find only a box containing a note from Molloy; he lied about the treasure in order to buy himself enough time to escape from his cell. Several citizens continue to dig, hoping that there is a real treasure, but soon find themselves at a loss for ways to get out of the hole they have made.

Production
The episode was written by John Swartzwelder and directed by Jim Reardon. New Zealand actor Sam Neill guest starred in the episode as Molloy, the cat burglar. Executive producer David Mirkin thought Neill, a big Simpsons fan, was "lovely" to direct. Mirkin also said Neill was "really game" and did "a terrific job". Neill considers recording this episode to be a "high-point" of his career. One scene features Kent Brockman reporting on the burglaries. Mirkin said this was a joke the staff enjoyed doing because it pointed out how negative and mean-spirited news broadcasts can be, and how they are seemingly "always trying to scare everybody" by creating panic and depression.

Cultural references
Molloy is based on David Niven's character A. J. Raffles, a gentleman thief, in Raffles (1939). The music heard during the burglaries is from The Pink Panther (1963), in which Niven played a similar character, The Phantom. Flanders tells Homer that his Shroud of Turin beach towels were stolen during one of the burglaries. Herman Hermann shows Homer a bomb the military developed to drop on Beatniks. Homer's dream of riding the bomb to oblivion is a parody of the climactic scene of Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964). Homer's line "take that Maynard G. Krebs!" is a reference to the Beatnik character from The Many Loves Of Dobie Gillis. Homer's line "So I said, look buddy, your car was upside-down when I got here. And as for your grandma, she shouldn't have mouthed off like that!" is a reference to Flannery O'Connor's short story "A Good Man Is Hard to Find". The scene of Homer and Principal Skinner talking in front of the museum is a reference to Dragnet; the show's theme plays in the scene. In a reference to the plot of It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (1963), Molloy sends the residents of Springfield on a hunt for a treasure that is buried under a big letter. The ending sequence references the film by using the same music and camera angles. In another scene that references It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World, Bart tricks American actor Phil Silvers into driving his car into a river, just like Silvers' character did in the film.

Reception
In its original broadcast, "Homer the Vigilante" finished 41st in the ratings for the week of January 3–9, 1994, with a Nielsen rating of 12.2, equivalent to approximately 11.5 million viewing households. It was the highest-rated show on the Fox network that week.

Since airing, the episode has received mostly positive reviews from television critics. The authors of the book I Can't Believe It's a Bigger and Better Updated Unofficial Simpsons Guide, Warren Martyn and Adrian Wood, thought it was "a bit lacking in focus", but it contained "a number of satisfying set-pieces — we like Professor Frink's walking house security system — and displays Wiggum at his all-time most useless."

DVD Movie Guide's Colin Jacobson wrote: "After the many plots of the prior show, 'Vigilante' maintains a much tighter focus. It’s nothing quite as wonderful an episode as its immediate predecessor, but it’s strong nonetheless. Much of the humor comes from Homer’s newfound power and abuse of it. If nothing else, it’s a great program due to Homer’s reaction to Lisa’s jug playing."

Patrick Bromley of DVD Verdict gave the episode a grade of B, and Bill Gibron of DVD Talk gave it a score of 4 out of 5.

Les Winan of Box Office Prophets named "Homer the Vigilante", "Cape Feare", "Homer Goes to College", "$pringfield", and "Deep Space Homer" his favorite episodes of season five.

It was also the Liverpool Daily Post's Mike Chapple's favorite episode of the season, together with "Bart Gets an Elephant" and "Burns' Heir".

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Asia Pacific United Party

The Asia Pacific United Party was a New Zealand political party serving the country's Asian and Pasifika populations.

History
It was formed in anticipation of the MMP electoral system, which made it easier for smaller parties to be elected. In the 1996 election, the party stood nine candidates won 0.02% of the vote, insufficient to gain any seats. During the election there were ballot paper mistakes confusing the Asia Pacific United Party with the Ethnic Minority Party.

The party, although registered, did not submit a list for the 1999 elections, and none of its electorate candidates were elected.

In October 2001 the Electoral Commission cancelled the registration of the party because its membership had fallen below 500 people. It subsequently merged with United New Zealand.

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The Big Trail

The Big Trail is a 1930 American pre-Code Western early widescreen film shot on location across the American West starring 23-year-old John Wayne in his first leading role and directed by Raoul Walsh. It is the final completed film to feature Tyrone Power Sr. before his death in 1931, as well as his only sound role.

In 2006, the United States Library of Congress deemed this film "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant", and selected it for preservation in the National Film Registry, saying "the plot of a trek along the Oregon Trail is aided immensely by the majestic sweep provided by the experimental 70mm Grandeur wide-screen process used in filming".

Plot
A large caravan of settlers attempt to cross the Western United States on the Oregon Trail. Breck Coleman is a young trapper who just got back to Missouri from his travels near Santa Fe, seeking to avenge the death of an old trapper friend who was killed the winter before along the Santa Fe Trail for his furs, by Red Flack and his minion Lopez. At a large trading post owned by a man named Wellmore, Coleman sees Flack and suspects him right away as being one of the killers. Flack likewise suspects Coleman as being somebody who knows too much about the killing. Coleman is asked by a large group of settlers to scout their caravan west, and declines, until he learns that Flack and Lopez were just hired by Wellmore to boss a bull train along the as-yet-unblazed Oregon Trail to a trading post in northern Oregon Territory (which at the time extended into current British Columbia), owned by another Missouri fur trader. Coleman agrees to scout for the train, so he can keep an eye on the villains and kill them as soon as they reach their destination. The caravan of settlers in their covered wagons follow Wellmore's ox-drawn train of Conestoga wagons, as the first major group of settlers to move west on the Oregon Trail. Along the way the wagon train is attacked by a horde of Indians on horseback, wearing headdresses.

Coleman finds love with young Ruth Cameron, whom he'd kissed accidentally, mistaking her for somebody else. Unwilling to accept her attraction toward him, Ruth gets rather close to a gambler acquaintance of Flack's, who joined the trail after being caught cheating. Coleman and Flack have to lead the settlers west, while Flack does everything he can to have Coleman killed before he finds any proof of what he'd done. The three villains' main reason for going west is to avoid the hangman's noose for previous crimes, and all three receive frontier justice instead. The settlers trail ends in an unnamed valley, where Coleman and Ruth finally settle down together amidst giant redwoods.

Cast

 * John Wayne as Breck Coleman
 * Marguerite Churchill as Ruth Cameron
 * El Brendel as Gus
 * Tully Marshall as Zeke
 * Tyrone Power Sr. as Red Flack (as Tyrone Power)
 * David Rollins as Dave Cameron
 * Frederick Burton as Pa Bascom
 * Ian Keith as Bill Thorpe
 * Charles Stevens as Lopez
 * Ward Bond as Sid Bascom
 * Louise Carver as Gus's mother-in-law

Pre-production
Reputedly (the claim is unconfirmed) the initial script, then called "The Oregon Trail", was first offered to director John Ford who then passed it on to his friend Raoul Walsh.

For the film, Walsh employed 93 actors and used as many as 725 natives from five different Indian tribes. He also obtained 185 wagons, 1,800 cows, 1,400 horses, 500 buffalos and 700 chickens, pigs and dogs for the production of the film.

Production
The shoot lasted from April 20 to August 20, 1930, and was filmed in seven states. The film was shot in an early widescreen process called 70 mm Grandeur film, which was first used in the film Fox Movietone Follies of 1929. Grandeur was used by the Fox Film Corporation for a handful of films released in 1929 and 1930, of which The Big Trail was the last. Grandeur proved financially unviable for an industry still investing in the switch to talking pictures.

The scene of the wagon train drive across the country was pioneering in its use of camera work and the depth and view of the epic landscape. An effort was made to lend authenticity to the movie, with the wagons drawn by oxen instead of horses – they were lowered by ropes down canyons when necessary for certain shots in narrow valleys. Tyrone Power Sr.'s character's clothing looks realistically grimy, and even the food supplies the 'immigrants' carried with them in their wagons were thoroughly researched. Locations in five states, starting from New Mexico to California, were used to film the caravan's 2000 mi trek.

Release and reception
After shooting, the film was previewed to select audiences and generally released in October 1930. "Often the scenes" in the film, wrote Mordaunt Hall in The New York Times "cause one to marvel at their naturalness and beauty. It has a thunderstorm that looks as real as the land, water and sky that confront one throughout this production". According to Hall, in one sequence, featuring a native American attack, "suddenly it seems as though one were tugged from one's seat and thrown in front of the charging horses, which appear to plunge from the screen and disappear into the velvety darkness of the theatre".

After the box-office failure of the film due to the Depression stopping theatres from investing in widescreen technology, Wayne was only cast in low-budget serials and features (mostly Poverty Row Westerns); although his name was billed above the title in dozens of movies in the 1930s. He enjoyed a large following, especially in the South, but it took Wayne's role in Stagecoach (1939) for him to become a mainstream performer again.

The two versions
Beyond the format difference, the 70mm and 35mm versions vary substantially from each other. They were shot by different cameras, and footage for each format was edited separately in the cutting room. Some scenes were shot simultaneously by both cameras, the only difference being the angle (with the better angle usually given to the 70mm camera). Some scenes were shot first by one camera, and then retaken with the other camera. The 70mm cameras could not focus well up close, so their shots were mainly panoramas with very few close-ups. The 35mm cameras could move in and focus at short distances. Thus, scenes in the 70mm version might show two characters talking to each other in the same take, making greater use of the widescreen frame, while the 35mm version would have close-up shots cutting back and forth between the two characters. This may have been an artistic choice as much as a technical one. The cinematographer responsible for the 70mm version of the picture, Arthur Edeson, wrote in the September 1930 issue of American Cinematographer: "Grandeur reduces the number of close-ups considerably, as the figures are so much larger that semi-close-ups are usually all that is needed".

Critics views
As of 2018, Rotten Tomatoes gives the film a 100% rating.

Preservation and re-release
A neglected film for many years, it was only seen in the conventional 35mm version for decades. In the early 1980s, the Museum of Modern Art in New York City, which held the original 70mm nitrate camera negative, wished to preserve the film but found that nitrate decomposition had left it too shrunken and fragile to be copied to safety film, and that no film lab would touch it. Over a year-long project, Karl Malkames, a specialist in film restoration technology, designed and built a special printer to preserve this version of the film. The image on the original negative was transferred to a 35mm anamorphic master.

Dave Kehr wrote for the Chicago Tribune in 1988: "The added richness of resolution and the silvery sheen that the first generation 70 mm. nitrate prints would have provided can only be imagined. And yet, The Big Trail remains an eye-popping experience".

Home media
The 70mm version was finally seen on cable television in the late 1990s. The 35mm version had been released to VHS and DVD previously for several years. A two-disc restored DVD was released in the U.S. on May 13, 2008, featuring the 35- and 70-millimeter versions. A Blu-ray edition featuring the 70-millimeter version was released in September 2012.

The film's copyright was renewed, so the film will not be in the public domain until 2026.

Foreign-language versions
A fairly common practice in the early sound era was to simultaneously produce at least one foreign-language version of a film for release in non-English-speaking countries; an approach later replaced by simply dubbing the dialogue. There were at least four foreign-language versions made of The Big Trail, all filmed in 35mm, 1.20:1 ratio and using different casts and different character names:

 * French: La Piste des géants (1931), directed by Pierre Couderc, starring Gaston Glass (Pierre Calmine), Jeanne Helbling (Denise Vernon), Margot Rousseroy (Yvette), Raoul Paoli (Flack), Louis Mercier (Lopez).
 * German: Die Große Fahrt (1931), directed by Lewis Seiler and Raoul Walsh, starring Theo Shall (Bill Coleman), Marion Lessing (Ruth Winter), Ullrich Haupt (Thorpe), Arnold Korff (Peter), Anders Van Haden (Bull Flack), Peter Erkelenz (Fichte), Paul Panzer (Lopez).
 * Italian: Il grande sentiero (1931), starring Franco Corsaro and Luisa Caselotti.
 * Spanish: La Gran jornada (1931), directed by David Howard, Samuel Schneider, and Raoul Walsh, starring Jorge Lewis (Raul Coleman), Carmen Guerrero (Isabel Prados), Roberto Guzmán (Tomas), Martin Garralaga (Martin), Al Ernest Garcia (Flack), Tito Davison (Daniel), Carlos Villarías (Orena), Charles Stevens (Lopez).

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Batcaver

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Merge and Redirect to Goth. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 17:02, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Batcaver
The term is already mentioned in wikipedia in Batcave I think this article doesn't add any useful information deleteMelaen 21:19, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * This is a reasonable place for a redirect. CDC   (talk)  22:00, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Goth. --Sn0wflake 00:30, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.  Please do not edit this page .


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Talk:Dihydrotestosterone

Section
Does green tea lower DHT? the paragraph on this seems conflicting

"DHT is thought to be approximately 30 times more potent than testosterone." For doing ... what? In all cases? Isidore 21:19, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Well, DHT has more affinity to the androgen receptor, and is therefore more potent in every aspect. JFW | T@lk  22:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

DHT and Muscle Growth
"DHTid dehydrogenase and therefore does not have a significant effect on muscle hypertrophy." ....

"Women with increased levels of DHT may develop certain androgynous male secondary sex characteristics, including hair above the lip, a deepened voice, and increased muscular growth."

Here are two clearly contradictory sentences in the same article. Which one is correct ?? Which one do we remove or modify ??

Inhibiting the 3-alpha hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzyme basically lets us tap into DHTs muscle there are certain ways to do it.

What is the normal range? I have two values one at 30-80 ng/dL and the other at 112-995 pg/mL which is 1120-9950 ng/dL. Both can not be correct! Also what is the lowest value a lab can measure? For someone with prostrate cancer and on hormones this is an important question.

I think the muscle growth in women would be due to increased testosterone, which is then converted into DHT... so it is a correlation and not causation. I rephrased the line, but change it back if it works differently in women for some reason.

"overproduction"
The part about drugs being used to treat DHT overproduction was removed as it's misleading. Normal DHT production causes most of the problems, except in women.

andrdogenic potential of DHT / testosterone
This page says DHT is about 30 times more potent than testosterone, but the article testosterone says DHT is 2.5 times more potent than testosterone. I suppose it is all apprioximations, but it looks confusing. / Habj 23:19, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Given that DHT deficiency has been associated with Alzheimer's Disease, is it possible that finasteride (Proscar and Propecia) can result in memory impairment and other auto immune diseases such as heart disease, thyriod disease, skin cancer, arthritus etc.

I've been taking it for about 6 years and have noted a decrement in memory. I'm in my late 30's and wonder if this is just natural aging (I'm relatively young for significant memory impairment) or if it could be due to this medication.

 * Yes. It happened to me most definitively after about 4 or 5 years on Propecia. I suggest you go to the website I post a link to below, it is a discussion forum with plenty of members all having the same problems you are describing and more. This pill's mechanism of action is ridiculous, it inhibits one of the most important neursteroids in the human body and has caused long term problems for a wealth of people. Do not be alarmed, read the FAQ section, it explains some of the symptoms we are experiencing and then there is a ton of information about what different people have done to try and correct their situations.  Here is the link:

www.propeciahelp.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.184.17.178 (talk) 19:47, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

reducing levels of DHT will in the long run, cause auto immune disease such as Alzheimers,

 * Alzheimer's is not an immune disease. Nor is heart disease or cancer, at least not primarily. There is no evidence whatsoever that finasteride causes any clinical immune dysfunction. Th1/Th2 balance is a laboratory measure. Please do not insert original research on Wikipedia. JFW | T@lk  16:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

DHT also causes hirsutism and/or PCOS in Women.
 * Causes PCOS? Or are elevated levels just associated with PCOS? --Ryan Wise 10:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

5α-reductase and aeromatase promotors
Everyone is talking about 5α-reductase and aeromatase inhibitors. But Can somebody tell me about the drugs which can promote their activity —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.141.36.72 (talk) 06:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

you can't promote an enzymes activity, you can only take more of it via injection or pills , (Yes there are pills like this on the market) if your interested in it' muscle growth potential you might want an 3-alpha hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase inhibitor.

 * Of course you can. Generally. Not sure about 5-alpha-reductase or aromatase though.195.5.116.150 (talk) 16:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Zinc, test, DHT, GH might help maybe:
 * http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7271365
 * http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/56/2/320?ck=nck
 * http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/136/8/3338
 * 195.5.116.150 (talk) 09:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

systematic name
Isn't the systematic name 5-alpha-androstan-3-one-17-beta-ol? Jack Daw 17:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Why is dihydroxytestosterone not referred to as 4,5-testosterone, as are 1,25-dihydroxy-vitamin D3, or the rather obscure (and possibly not too biologically relevant) 24,25-dihydroxy-vitamin D? And are there any other known versions of tstoterone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.9.143.231 (talk) 16:21, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

normal range or estimates for dht?
there's no normal ranges on here for dht, does anyone know what a normal dht range should be? Nemo.shark (talk) 03:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

DHT receptor question
DHT and Testosterone are often referred to throughout scientific literature in the same breath. They are both androgens, and likewise, tend to affect the same target tissues (though sometimes in very different ways). I'm curious, though, about the hormone receptors on those target tissues.

I've read several articles which make mention of "androgen receptors" or "androgen sensitivity", but I've yet to find something which makes clear if DHT and Testosterone utilize the same receptors on target tissues, or different ones. Does DHT bind to the exact same type of receptor as testosterone? And if so, how do drugs like finasteride regulate one, without impacting the other?

Pine (talk) 23:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

 * finasteride inhibits conversion of testo to the more active form, DHT. The target receptors are the same.195.5.116.150 (talk) 16:39, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

DHT and Semen
This is a rather strange topic that came up today while I was having a discussion with co-workers during our lunch break: According to the article, DHT is present in the testes, thus assumed to be a byproduct or semen (or semen is a byproduct of DHT). Does that mean (is there any scientific or at least some sort of experiment proving) that if a male individual ingests semen over a period of time that androgenic alopecia, or male pattern baldness, is more prone to occur? In other words, if a male ingests his semen on a regular basis, would he begin to show signs of male-pattern baldness over time? --SetandSpike (talk) 05:26, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * eew. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 133.62.200.220 (talk) 05:13, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I think the point you're missing is that too much masturbation over the course of a single day causes balding. Not semen ingestion.  I'll go further and say it has to due with digestion, the fact that male masturbation causes a loss in zinc or other vitamins.  These vitamins are required in new hail growth.  Men tend to have a low intake of these particular foods.  On top of that as they age, their intestines have poor absorption rates of these foods/vitamins. --172.251.204.186 (talk) 00:48, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

citations / sources for IUPAC names on this and many "sex steroid" articles
Most / many of the Category:Sex_steroids articles lack citations for the "IUPAC" names... is IUPAC really the same as a "systemic name" from List_of_steroid_abbreviations if so, why are there so many "red links" on that list?... neither the steroid list page, nor the pages in the sex steroid category are citing sources for the "systemic" or IUPAC names. --Kuzetsa (talk) 17:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Could someone explain why is a "Treatment" section there?
I was wondering what did the person who added this section thought; DHT isn't an illness or disorder, so there couldn't be (obviously) a treatment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.131.222.224 (talk) 23:15, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

DHT Metabolism
I want to include some info about DHT metabolism and the effects of its metoblites on prostate cancer. Seems important since the NEJM Porstate Cancer Precention Trial is very related. Drbarrywheeler (talk) 17:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

The main article currently states, "DHT plays a role in the development and exacerbation of benign prostatic hyperplasia, as well as prostate cancer (italics added), by enlarging the prostate gland." I read the reference for this (Prostate Enlargement (Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia | ehealthMD (http://www.ehealthmd.com/library/prostateenlargement/BPH_causes.html)) and it does not support the claim that DHT (or its metabolites for that matter) plays a role in the development and exacerbation of prostate cancer. Unless it can be supported I suggest the phrase "as well as prostate cancer" be removed. Sanjosedave (talk) 17:56, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Clarification needed - adrenal androgens
This article currently states:
 * "DHT has 3 times greater affinity for androgen receptors than testosterone and has 15-30 times greater affifinty than adrenal androgens."

There should be a definition of adrenal androgens. The article androgen defines adrenal androgens as "[a] subset of androgens [which] includes any of the 19-carbon steroids synthesized by the adrenal cortex [...]". Yet the article adrenal cortex mentions DHT itself as an adrenal androgen, giving DHT 15-30 times more affifinty [sic] than DHT [sic]. --Abdull (talk) 11:12, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Isomers
Should not the two isomers not be discussed? Produced by the action of two isomers of 5α-reductase from different genes. One has most potency as a sex steroid and the other with male pattern baldness. The topic only gets mentioned in the last paragraph and type I and type II is not explained 2.31.6.253 (talk) 12:08, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Physiological role in doubt
10.1210/er.2016-1067 JFW | T@lk  18:52, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Numerous problems with "5α-Reductase deficiency"
This is a condition that has a complex description, there are a number of misconceptions and errors in this section (many poor quality references). This article shouldn't describe much past the important role the condition has played in discovering the biological role of DHT. This section should be shrunk down to no more than a para, focusing on DHT and should link to 5α-Reductase 2 deficiency Maneesh (talk) 06:15, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Dihydrotestosterone
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Dihydrotestosterone's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "pmid30763313": From Progesterone:  From Androgen backdoor pathway:

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. Feel free to remove this comment after fixing the refs. AnomieBOT ⚡ 20:04, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Turkish Grand Prix

Re: 2006 podium issue
I think it is important that the article references that the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus is only recognised as a state by Turkey. Without this information, there is no indication of why the event was controversial in the first place. Simply stating that TRNC is recognised by only one state is simply a statement of fact, putting the controversial event in context. I don't believe including it to be POV.

Zindon 22:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Speculation
Turn 8 is probably the best corner on the track. This wickedly fast and long turn has been nicknamed "Diabolica", a play on Curva Parabolica at Monza. It is a quadruple apex corner with a load of 5g (5 times the acceleration of gravity) for 4 seconds. It is actually 4 corners joined together. Many drivers have found this to be one of the trickiest corners in Formula 1.

This is at the start of the article.

I feel it needs to be removed but always get blamed for doing so myself. If people agree, please delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.78.20.70 (talk) 11:05, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

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Large Marge

"Large Marge" is the fourth episode of the fourteenth season of the American animated television series The Simpsons. It originally aired on the Fox network in the United States on November 24, 2002. In the episode, Marge decides to get liposuction, thinking that Homer does not find her attractive anymore. However, she accidentally receives breast implants, so she becomes adored by many men in Springfield and becomes a model. Meanwhile, Bart and Milhouse try to imitate a stunt they saw on an episode of Batman that guest starred Krusty the Clown. When the stunt ends badly, media watchdog groups blame Krusty, forcing the clown to make his show more safety-conscious and less fun.

This is the final episode to feature Jan Hooks as Manjula before her death in October 2014.

Plot
Lisa and Homer participate in a Habitat for Humanity project along with former presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and George H. W. Bush. While working, Homer takes off his wedding ring for safekeeping, causing Lindsay Naegle and Cookie Kwan to mistakenly think Homer is a divorcé. Marge, driving by with Maggie, assumes Homer to be flirting with the women, and worries that Homer has lost interest in her. She decides to get liposuction on the advice of Manjula, but a mix-up at the hospital instead causes her to get breast implants meant for Mayor Quimby's assistant. Marge is forced to wait 48 hours before the implants can be removed.

Meanwhile, Bart and Milhouse watch an episode of Batman guest starring Krusty, and attempt to recreate a stunt, damaging school property and the U.S. flag in the process. Upon discovering the two were influenced by Krusty, Principal Skinner leads a protest against the clown, who is now seen as a dangerous influence on children. Krusty's show is re-tooled to exclude anything considered dangerous and likely to be imitated by impressionable viewers.

After returning home from her surgery, Marge realizes that her new breasts are giving her difficulty in doing even the simplest tasks, but that she is given gifts and attention by the men of Springfield. When the family goes out for dinner, Kiki Highsmith, a trade show executive, approaches Marge and offers her a modeling job. Marge accepts and initially enjoys the experience, but is quickly plagued by back pain and harassment from the men of Springfield.

At the Springfield Shoe Expo, Marge is further humiliated while promoting shoe horns. At the same time, Bart decides to help Krusty to win back his popularity by having him appear to rescue Milhouse from Stampy by shouting Stampy's safe word: "magumbo". When Krusty forgets the word, Stampy stuffs both Milhouse and Bart in his mouth, as well as Homer when he tries to save them. The police prepare to shoot Stampy, endangering Homer, Bart and Milhouse, but Marge manages to distract the police by flashing her breasts. Krusty, ogling her breasts, shouts "Look at those magumbos!" Stampy releases Bart, Milhouse, and Homer, and Krusty is hailed as a hero and his popularity is restored with the town. Following the day's events, Marge finally has her implants removed.

Production
"Large Marge" was written by Ian Maxtone-Graham and directed by Jim Reardon as part of the fourteenth season of The Simpsons (2002–03). In an Associated Press news report about the episode, it was cited as satirizing "plastic surgery and images of beauty in popular culture." Actors Adam West and Burt Ward, who starred in the television series Batman as Batman and Robin, respectively, guest starred in "Large Marge" as those characters. Junkanoo band Baha Men, known for their single "Who Let the Dogs Out?", recorded two parodies of that song for this episode: "Who Left the Milk Out?", which Marge and Maggie listen to on Radio Disney, and "Who Let Her Jugs Out?", which plays over the closing credits.

Release
The episode originally aired on the Fox network in the United States on November 24, 2002. On February 7, 2006, "Large Marge" was released in the United States on a DVD collection titled The Simpsons Kiss and Tell: The Story of Their Love, along with the season nine episode "Natural Born Kissers", the season fourteen episode "Three Gays of the Condo", and the season fifteen episode "The Way We Weren't". All four episodes revolve around the romance between Homer and Marge.

On December 6, 2011, "Large Marge" was released on Blu-ray and DVD as part of the box set The Simpsons – The Complete Fourteenth Season. Staff members Al Jean, Ian Maxtone-Graham, Matt Selman, Tom Gammill, Matt Warburton, David Silverman, and Mike B. Anderson, as well as cast member Nancy Cartwright, participated in the DVD audio commentary for the episode. Deleted scenes from the episode were also included in the box set.

Reception
Reviews from television critics about this episode have been mixed since the release of the Kiss and Tell DVD.

IGN's Jeff Otto commented that while he thought "Natural Born Kissers" was the only "great" episode in the compilation, "All four episodes are good Simpsons episodes." He added: "I can't figure why, if Fox was going to put together a set of this theme, they couldn't have included some of the more classic episodes about Marge and Homer's romance. Still, even the lesser Simpsons episodes are entertaining, so you could certainly do worse."

A writer for HorrorNews.net called it one of the highlights of the season, and Aaron Peck of High-Def Digest described it as "memorable". In his review of the Kiss and Tell DVD, Andy Dougan of the Evening Times characterized the episode as one of the "funniest episodes of recent series".

DVD Movie Guide's Colin Jacobson commented that though "the plot of 'Large' screams 'high concept', it actually works pretty well. It uses the silliness attached to Marge's chest to good comic effect, and the secondary plot with Bart and Krusty ties into things in a fun manner. It presents a lot of funny bits and turns into a strong episode. It's also hard to knock a show that reunites the voices of Adam West and Burt Ward."

While reviewing the fourteenth season of The Simpsons, Victor Valdivia of DVD Verdict wrote: "To be sure, there are some real clinkers this season. Both 'Large Marge' and 'Strong Arm of the Ma' prove that writing good episodes about Marge seem to be out of the question by this point. [...] By normal TV standards these are not unwatchable, but by Simpsons standards, these are the episodes you probably won't watch over and over again."

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User talk:DJ Clayworth/Archive3

Calcutta -> Kolkata name change
Hi there. I noticed you voted in the Naming policy poll to keep the Wikipedia policy of naming an article with the most familiar English name. You may not be aware that another attempt has begun to rename the Calcutta article to Kolkata, which is blatantly not the most common name of the city, whether it's official or not. If you want to vote on the issue you can do so at Talk:Calcutta. Cheers. -- Necrothesp 13:39, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Looking at those arbiters of common usage, BBC and CNN, I think we've nearly reached the point where Kolkata is the most common. DJ Clayworth 16:15, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, re: Franklin B. Gowen
Looks like we were both undoing vandalism on my Gowen article today. Since the talk page seemed ok when I got to it, moving the article page was all that I needed to do. Thanks for the assistance. slambo 18:25, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
 * Happy to help. Glad we fixed it. It's much easier when everyone pitches in to undo stuff like that. DJ Clayworth 14:16, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

User:Wheee!
Well done with catching him. Could you make sure to delete his user page as it is, well, disgusting. non-redirect link here. Ta, Smoddy (t) (e) (g) 19:02, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * OK, so I caught the thin end of the wedge there... Smoddy (t) (e) (g) 19:06, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * I suspect we may have a problem here. Having done this once I can think of no reason why he should not create a new user and try again. DJ Clayworth 19:09, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Shane Schofield Owner
I was the original creator of that article, I want to ask what you changed on my article. I can't believe how fast you changed the article. Right away after I finished it, my friend saw he couldn't edit. If you have an aol email, email me at Dirish2003@aol.com. Or just send me an IM at Dirish2003.

ps please include issues regarding cleanup on Shane Schofield's discussion page

Rec.sport.pro-wrestling
DJ

I appreciate your comments. I am trying to keep the user "Chadbryant", who is an imposter of myself, from editing the info page for "rec.sport.pro-wrestling" to further his online feuds with users of that forum.

Without going into detail, this user has a history of harrassment and abuse on the usenet group and since he has now discovered Wikipedia, it seems he will move the abuse here.

I'm just trying to limit his damage.

Cheers!

Rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Hey DJ:

I cant stay up all night trying to keep the user "Chadbryant" from vandalising the entry for "rec.sport.pro-wrestling". Is there any chance he can be block/banned and the article retained in its original form? The information he is posting about "kooks" and "trolls" is ficticious. How can something like this be stopped? This is going to be an ongoing problem I can assure you.

Cheers!!

See my reply on Talk:rec.sport.pro-wrestling. Please also note that you should always sign your name on talk pages. This can be done by entering four tilde characters like this ~. DJ Clayworth 21:36, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Rec.sport.pro-wrestling
DJ:

I apologize for the trouble this has been causing. There is no dispute, I am just trying to prevent the other user from abusing the article. Thanks for being so patient with us!

Cheers! ChadBryant 21:41, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)ChadBryant

Oxymora
Good point aboiut the oxymora. The problem is that there are differing opinions on what is a joke oxymoron.

 * Good point. But I think we can insist that those that are logical contradictions are classed separately from those that are (essentially) insulting to someone. So "modest extravagance" (from Oxymoron) is clearly in a different class from "military intelligence", which requires the (POV) judgement that all military are stupid to be an oxymoron. What do you think? (I've copied this to the talk page, and I suggest we hold the rest of this discussion there.) DJ Clayworth 20:43, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

You deleted several oxymora on 18 March. While maybe some of the ones you deleted indeed aren't oxymora, you otherwise seem to have gone through deleting stuff at random. Would you care to explain your changes? -- Smjg 16:19, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Reply at Talk:List of oxymora DJ Clayworth 16:22, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

What isn't genuine about "awfuly good" (besides the spelling mistake) and "good grief"? Maybe "awfully" has another meaning, but "good grief"? -- Smjg 10:02, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Reply at Talk:List of oxymora DJ Clayworth 13:41, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Spam???
Why exactly are there other listings commercial listings? i.e. goto the los angeles home page and their are several businesses listed there. I'm sorry I didn't really believe that I was spamming or doing anything that was of a questionable nature. Only adding a listing that didn't exisit yet. Here are a several examples that are already in the wiki to support what I mean.

* Shakey's Pizza * Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences * City National Bank * Hilton Hotels * DIC Entertainment * The Walt Disney Company * Warner Brothers * Countrywide Financial Corporation * Belkin * National Public Radio West * Sony Pictures Entertainment (parent of Columbia Pictures). * Computer Sciences Corporation * DirecTV * Mattel * Aloha Doors and Gates * Unocal * DreamWorks SKG * Sea Launch * Princess Cruises * Stamps.com * PhotoStamps

 * Before I begin, it's really helpful if you can sign all posts to talk pages with you ID and date/time. You can do this easily by putting four tildes after what you write like this ~.

 * The main criterion for including information about a company is whether it is notable. That really means whether it is a company that is influential in a worldwide sense - one that you would know about even if you never had need of their services. So IBM, Disney etc. all have articles because people want to know about them. Fred's Pizza on Main Street doesn't because only people on Main Street who want pizza are interested.

 * Essentially that decides whether a company gets an article. There is also the question of what goes into the article. The IBM, Disney etc. articles don't just have stuff written by the company. We maintain the Neutral point of view, and we include bad stuff about them too. If you find an article that consists mainly of "Come to Fred's Pizza for the best Pizza on Main Street", then you can bet it's going to be deleted.

 * Finally, the decision to delete an article is based on a vote of any interested Wikipedians. Aloha Doors and Gates has been proposed for deletion because I, personally, think it is not an important company and the article reads like an advertising brochure. Whether or not it is deleted will depend on whether other Wikipedians agree with me. What I wrote to you was more in the way of a friendly warning - to tell you that we have a very low tolerance for advertising, and that your article would be deleted. I removed the links because a) Manual of style says that external links should go at the end of the article and b) because some people try to use Wikipedia as a link farm to get their Google rank up. We don't allow that in general. Please don't take this personally, and please feel free to contrbute other things to Wikipedia.

DJ Clayworth 22:37, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

J2ME/Java Articles Articles
Yes, most of my J2mE articles will be moved to a new wikibook J2Me next week.

I wanted to make sure I check the encyclopedia artiles as most of the encycloepdia stuff on j2me is wrong or missleading and needs to be corrected..

So in fact two changes, articles being moved to wikibook and changtes to smae stuff as encyclopedia artilces to crrect missinformation..

Will later in week start outlining structure of j2me wikibook on my talk pages later this week..

Shareme 14:00, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

 * That's great. Can I suggest you mark them with the wikibooks tag, because otherwise people ( myself included) will try to turn them into encyclopedia articles, which will make them less effective as textbooks. DJ Clayworth 14:05, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Okay, marking them as wikibook right at top ..I fully expect to have them move on Friday Shareme 22:38, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

An example on probability
That's an example of conditional probability that I tent to add a link to it from probability page, the name described well what it is talking about, so why we must change its name? Anyway, you could give it another name as well.202.172.246.7 05:31, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

And thank you very much for your editing, the article is now much better than previous version. Trieu 02:06, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

SAVE TERRI NOW !
I focus on one person not because it's on TV. I focus on this:

Terri dies, we talk !
First of all, please go visit terrisfight.org to see just how brain-damaged Terri Schiavo is. She opens her eyes on request, reacts to her mother's attention and responds to music.

Not that that matters. Terri matters. Life matters.

The dehumanist culture of death wants you to believe that it is alright and "humane" to "euthanize" the injured, the brain-damaged and the terminally ill.

The horror of Terri's case illustrates The degree of sickness to which the dehumanization has evolved. Terri's husband wants her out of the way and wants to starve her to death. Terri who recognizes and knows her mother.

The court thinks that is fine and has now removed the stay making the murder possible. All throughout the mainstream media you see reports of how brain damaged Terri is and "who knows if her reactions are real or just reflex impulses?"

We're convinced they're not, but even if they were, should she be murdered for being injured and ill when her parents and friends are desperately trying to defend the gift of life she has been given?

Take heed of this horrific precedent and do what you can to help save Terri.

Terri denied Holy Communion, not only her life. What have we become?
What have we become?

Public Execution, American Style
Terri Schindler Schiavo embodies and represents those countless other innocents that the oil-soaked NWO/neocon/globalists have tortured and slaughtered. However, this is a *public* execution being carried out at HOME here in the United States of America... and it is the nwo/globalist/neocon illuminati telling Americans - and the entire US Congress - that LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of Happiness is no longer guaranteed under their version of the US Constitution. This is murder as a gross instrument of desensitization - not unlike 911 to some degree - also designed to strike the fear into Americans ...fear that their very LIVES are no longer sacrosanct. This murder - and ignoring of what may be multiple correlated felonies - is being staged to shock Americans to the core and prepare them to accept local, regional and state decreed death and widespread euthanasia as the new norm. Americans have lost enormous Freedom and Liberty in the last 15 years but they always felt their lives, at least, were secure. That is no longer the case.

Many forget that Terri, with therapy, was able to swallow and drink - until Mike forced a feeding tube to be installed and stopped all therapy. Many forget that Mike has not even allowed his wife to be taken outside into the sunshine in over 5 years. The list of other outrages is a long one and has been amply covered on the internet. Americans must keep in mind, nothing is done on this scale by accident or happenstance. This is a planned, public execution which is blatantly intended to put the fear of death by the government into Americans from this day forth. The public's reaction...your reaction... is being closely watched, tracked and analyzed by the masters of social engineering and mass mind control on their supercomputer models at Tavistock and here in the U.S. THAT is why we are covering the execution of Terri Schiavo so diligently.

 * " it is the nwo/globalist/neocon illuminati telling Americans - and the entire US Congress - that LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of Happiness is no longer guaranteed under their version of the US Constitution. "

I'm sorry, the entire US Congress are no longer Americans?

On a more serious note, I refer you to the "How to use this talk" section at the head of the page. Aidan

Serious? We commit murder, collectively and you play with words, censor!
Stop terror! And you less honorable censor, how dare you say defense of life is propaganda and your censorship isn't!?! SAVE TERRI !

Life no longer guaranteed, as per US Constitution
The Governor of Florida, by his oath of office, has an affirmative duty to uphold the law and to protect innocent life in his jurisdiction - regardless of what any judge says! Moreover, his police powers extend to the prevention of crimes, including murder. The well-publicized murder of Terri Schiavo is being carried out before him while he wrings his hands, expecting us to believe that he would stop it but he just can't. Yes, he can. The police do not work for the judicial branch of government. They work for the executive. And does George W. Bush really expect us to believe that he can send our sons and daughters to all corners of the world fighting "terrorists" but he can't stop the terrorist act of public execution taking place in Florida? Five years ago, on Easter Sunday Morning, the U.S. Justice Department thought they had the authority to raid a Florida home to steal Elian Gonzales from his mother's family. So, why can't they steal Terri Schiavo from those who are killing her? When I consider these things, I ask myself why these brothers, who claim to be Christian, would not use the authority and means at their disposal to stop this terror in America.

^sYour^s OUR vandalism on Terri Schiavo
I appreciate that you have strong feelings, but this is an encyclopedia, not an advocacy website. There are plenty of those. Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 17:18, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism? Defending Terri's life is WHAT? And juggling with legalistic nonsense is what ?
Appreciate yourself, pharisee! A woman is just dying! Right as you "redirect" and censor my "advocacy". Advocacy? Have you lost your understanding of sense? Life is life is life ! Would you be so "polite" if it were your life, not Terri's? We are ALL TERRI !

An ENCYCLOPEDIA you said?
A social experiment in scaring and desensitization at best, a Bomipedia at worst!

I have no idea what that means. However you are using talk pages for a purpose they are not intended for. It's the equivalent of my painting slogans on the side of your house. Please stop. DJ Clayworth 17:36, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

not an advocacy...
Look, if you want to commit intellectual castration upon yourself, it's your choice, Bomipedia's problem and none of my business. Neither is polite, icy, academic phariseism my business. I'm alive. And it's way too late to use pirouettes and gavots in lacy and stiff ruffs. We are talking about the first order emergency of preventing first degree MURDER. Premeditated, public, "live" - right on your TV. SAVE TERRI for God's sake or we become a nation of murderers !!!

Thanks
... for pinpointing my case, clear as I humbly dried to put it up!

If not a Jesus Freak, then what?
Seriously... --AStanhope 17:57, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Stan you better use the hope in your name for a cause !

Hi David,

Just wanted to know the reason why you edited the latest from 203177750 in favor of 6194177 in the Opus Dei article.

Thanks. 6194177

Hi David,

Just wanted to know the reason why you edited the latest from 203177750 in favor of 6194177 in the Opus Dei article.

Thanks. 6194177

 * I made those changes because several sentences didn't make sense after 203. had edited the page. They seemed to have cut bits out of other sentences The changes that did make sense didn't seem to be a big improvement on the previous version so I reverted wholesale rather than trying to fix it up. My apologies if the changes were important. DJ Clayworth 16:23, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, David. No problem. I was just trying to be as faithful as I can to the thought and intent of Escriva and his Work. Also there were considerations on style--connection between paragraphs, cutting long sentences, etc. But yes, the fascist word turned into one letter t is odd. I don't remember having done that. Anyway, I'm both in 203177750/6194177, as you can surmise. :-)

 * Please accept my apologies. That person's repeated, inane destruction of the Schiavo page pushed me over the edge.  --AStanhope 06:59, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I totally understand that. Consider it sorted. DJ Clayworth 16:16, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

April Fools' Day
I suppose you are right, and I shouldn't react thoughtlessly. But, if I'm going to be weak, it might as well be today. -Acjelen 13:49, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, despite the horrible temptation to respond to dumb additions with even dumber ones, it never really works out. DJ Clayworth 13:53, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

UPREPA
Thanks for the nice note, DJ. Are you happy with the edits on the UPREPA? Rex Judicata 20:44, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

 * Yep, It's now a pretty good article. DJ Clayworth 12:54, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

In reply to this message: "Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. DJ Clayworth 15:16, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)£ My reply: Please be respectful of other users. You may think my contribution was "nonsense", but it is very rude of you to say so in that way.. Please exercis some tact, or preferably repsect, for other users. Thank you.

From another expat
Take a look at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User:RexJudicata. it appears rex created Agwiii, a sockpuppet to support him at Votes for deletion/Uniform Parental Rights Enforcement and Protection Act, --SqueakBox 21:31, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Christian mythology
I have presented the text you suppressed and your sly substitution side by side. Quite revealing. I suppose you are incapable of embarassment. But I'd like to hear your defense of the sleight-of-hand, nevertheless. Or perhaps you'd like to retract the edit. --Wetman 22:59, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Exactly what sleight-of-hand are you talking about here? (maybe take this to tha talk page) DJ Clayworth 12:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reverting Cholera
Just a heads-up: your recent revert of vandalism on Cholera didn't go back far enough (multiple sequential vandals). It's been taken care of. Thanks for catching the second one! -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 20:41, 2005 Apr 19 (UTC)

canopy research
dear Mr. Clayworth,

thanks for your efforts in marking my arcticles. It is much more sensefull to leave corrections up to the specialists who submit enhancements, though ! In addition I am a specialist for the entries that I`ve made and your marks are out of place

regards, monk of the true school

Dear Monk:

I appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia. Be assured that I was not 'marking' your articles for technical correctness. However I was editing them to conform to Wikipedia standards, and also correcting some of the English. Hopefully you have read the Wikipedia pages I recommended to you, so that you know how we do things here. You should perhaps take a look at some of the other articles we have here, so that you get an idea of the sort of thing we are looking for. By co-operating together we can produce a better article than either of us separately. DJ Clayworth 19:49, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

ok, I get it now, thanks for your big efforts !

Dear Mr. Clayworth:

I am making good faith votes for deletion. How do you justify your claim that my intentions are bad? Why are you able to infer this? When was it that you became able to read my mind?

Oh, sorry for abusing your flippant knowledge predicate

Your intentions are bad because you are nominating articles that are clearly useful, and the reasons you cite are irrelevant (such as 'boring) and because when you write about the reason you want it deleted you say that it should not be deleted. You would have more credibility if you had not added nonsense to Wikipedia. DJ Clayworth 21:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Nuclear envelope

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Untitled
I moved part of the paragraph on the nuclear lamina to the actual nuclear lamina article. There's also the possibility of redirecting the nuclear lamina article to this one...--Kinglz 21:21, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I wouldn't redirect nuclear lamina to nuclear envelope, based on the fact that only the animal nuclear envelope has a true nuclear lamina. Also, this article is completely missing information on the plant nuclear envelope, e.g. its role as MTOC in mitosis. - tameeria 01:39, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

In my school, the textbook calls it "the nuclear membrane," so I was thinking if we should change it. User:yctaabpjic 10:40 10 October —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.175.84.233 (talk) 05:39, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * At the professional level, the term "nuclear envelope" is preferred, really. There is already, however, a redirect from nuclear membrane. – ClockworkSoul 16:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

how do variation of the thinckness of leaves makes them fit or suvive easily in the environment? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.185.7 (talk) 13:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC) ""

removing reference to non-existent micrograph
This page references a non-existent electron micrograph of the envelope. I'm going to remove it for now, if someone has the micrograph and wants to add it back in please do. removed text: The nuclear envelope is shown in an electron micrograph in the figure to the right. The filaments outside the envelope are not visualized with these protocols. Also, the nuclear lamina just inside the nuclear envelope is not shown well (see paragraph below for description). However, one can see ribosomes on the outer membrane and the sac enclosed by the two membranes. Dense patches of Heterochromatin are seen just inside the inner membrane.

Wingedkat (talk) 15:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Link to illustration
The "Nuclear envelope breakdown during mitosis in metazoans" section of this page contains a link to a picture of the cell nucleus, instead of an actual picture within the article. The picture also seems to be protected by copyright. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.3.0.227 (talk) 18:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://www.cytochemistry.net/cell-biology/nuclear_envelope.htm. (It was inserted here.) Infringing material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:20, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 18:06, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Article Review/Recommendations
•	The article provides a very brief understanding of the nuclear membrane. Within the section entitled “Cell Division” the language was concise and would be understandable to someone without a background in science.

•	The subsection “Reformation” clearly outlines the two theories of nuclear membrane reformation, but additional material on why that debate exists would be beneficial to the article and to future readers. •	In addition, a small mention of the nuclear membrane function during cell division should be in the introductory paragraph, to better direct readers to this information.

•	The links were functioning well and didn’t direct to any stub article or misdirected information. •	I noticed for this relatively short article, the same source (#7) was used over 8 times while the other sources were only used once and were often single word additions. Incorporating other sources to be used alongside the seventh one would benefit the article greatly. Perhaps some research studies could make the article more interesting while solidifying key concepts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TArbogast (talk • contribs) 21:54, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Nuclear envelope not the same as Nuclear membrane?
Is the difference between the nuclear envelope and the nuclear membrane the inclusion of the intermembrane space? This is not very clear in the lead especially with the image. Thanks Dig Deeper (talk) 17:33, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Inner membrane
already covered on target page as is Outer membrane Iztwoz (talk) 08:29, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Support - As "inner membrane" can refer to several different things in biology. Would you change the 'Inner membrane' to a disambiguation page, like Outer membrane? Thanks for doing this. Kbseah (talk) 10:30, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Name change
Changed page name to nuclear envelope re other refs to this on this page. Missed out on reason when moved page - envelope is the gaining ground on ngrams and is used extensively on the Cell nucleus page.--Iztwoz (talk) 09:40, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

NE, inner membrane, nuclear lamina: ...involved in-- 'entire expression'?
Please excuse my rampant ignorance, but what does 'entire expression' mean, in this sentence from the 'inner membrane' section of the article:

"The inner nuclear membrane encloses the nucleoplasm, and is covered by the nuclear lamina, a mesh of intermediate filaments which stabilizes the nuclear membrane as well as being involved in chromatin function and entire expression." UnderEducatedGeezer (talk) 06:32, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Have changed it a little, needs expanding on. --Iztwoz (talk) 08:57, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

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Valsequillo de Gran Canaria

Valsequillo de Gran Canaria is a town and a municipality in the eastern part of the island of Gran Canaria in the Province of Las Palmas in the Canary Islands. Its population is 9,170 (2013), and the area is 39.15 km².

Valsequillo is situated in the mountains, 5 km west of Telde and 16 km southwest of Las Palmas.

title: Valsequillo de Gran Canaria