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Jesus
Check out the Jesus article and edit it to keep it focused on Jesus and a biographical account of Him. Watch the Jesus page to keep it focused on Him. Thank you. Scifiintel 21:49, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

St. Valentine's Day
Hi Dragoonmac, I have modified this edit, as in Australia it is not most commonly women who give men gifts, but the other way around. - Ta bu shi da yu 13:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Cheers mate :) Ta bu shi da yu 22:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Pedophilia Project vote
Thanks a million, I should have thought of that myself! No you did not step out of line, you tactfully refactored the discussion at an important point. Physchim62 (talk) 17:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't see an issue here that requires that. I don't see any outside calls for people to come in or any rush of newbys voting. If you have a problem, just be frank about it. I've removed the template because it simply isn't relevant without the above conditions being met, and if it's not relevant, adding it looks like an attempt to sway people unfairly. No outside site has said anything at all, and there aren't many newbys voting there, if any. I'm trying to assess what your issue is so I can help. What's up? --DanielCD 02:36, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I read your comment on Flo's page. --DanielCD 02:47, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I think the debate in its current form is causing some confusion, and I have left a comment in this regard. The debate is not to resurrect this project in its exact form, as I just don't think the larger community is going to let that fly. This is where I think several of us are getting a little confused, and I'm sorry for any off comments in that regard. Some work may be at hand to redefine the issue. --DanielCD 03:25, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Debates sometimes have rough edges (especially in this format), but I think some more clarity will arise from the back and forth we've had, so all's well that ends well :-). --DanielCD 21:01, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Osbolewski
Since you originally prodded it, I thought you'd like to know that Osbolewski is now at AfD. NickelShoe 04:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Alegaesia
I don't understand why you proposed an article for deletion saying it ought to be a redirect? Why not just make it a redirect? I'm doing this for you, I'm just confused about what you were intending. NickelShoe 03:15, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thank you! (BTW, I'm a chick.) NickelShoe 15:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

American English Userbox review
Thanks for pointing that one in the correct direction, I puzzeled for a while over what to do with it... thanks. Ian3055 19:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I've been persuaded of the need to keep userboxes to useful types as the debate has gone on. Thought it was important to establish consistency between the different English dialect boxes, the idea of the "non-understanding" American boxes not existing, but the Southern/British English ones existing is somewhat more POV and divisive than the box ever could be on its own. Ian3055 21:26, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I would love your help.
Hi,

I know you are interested in christianity, and I recently started a new wiki over at wikicities which is on the subject of christianity. Christian Knowledge Base is the site.

The goal is to have a knowledgebase on christianity from a distinctly "C(hristian)POV" rather than the NPOV. It is not meant to be a mere Christian Encyclopedia, but to foster a real sense of community. I'd like to include things like current events, news, stories, and anything that would add to both an understanding of Christianity, but also its enjoyment. I'm looking for help to build a resource that could really enrich the lives of Christians.

I know you are busy but I am actively seeking new sysops/admins to help me build this site up, and I would be positively thrilled if you could contribute in any capacity whatsoever. nsandwich 05:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

 * You asked about whether some of the less traditional denominations are included in the CPOV. As a matter of fact, we are working towards a consensus on that issue right now, and would love your input. It does look as though the general consensus is to be as inclusionary as possible. Please take a look at this page to get started. nsandwich 07:03, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

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By no more edits, do you mean totally? Or can I do stuff not related to the dispute? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs)  03:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

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Artificial Hip article
CSD? Why on earth is my article bullocks? Please explain yourself on the talk page there. --Discharger12 22:56, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Requests for comment/SPUI
Since you are the mediator, could you please take a look? Thanks. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs)  05:10, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note
Hey D-mac, thanks so much for the note you left on the talk page. Yep, minimalism is my forte. I'm also allergic to userboxes. Take care! Starry Eyes  16:25, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Are you a volunteer? Employee of Wikipedia? I was just curious how you happened to leave a note for me. I am new to W.

Thanks.

--AceLT 18:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

List of shock sites
Someone has put this up for deletion yet again. Care to cast your vote? Skinmeister 10:40, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject hiphop announcement
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Not withstanding your attitude, I've made a proposal on WP:DRVU (which you may find beneath your troutish comment) that you may find interesting. Mackensen (talk) 21:39, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

The golden age of hip hop for deletion?
I see that The golden age of hip hop is up for deletion. I wonder what you think of this. P.O.N.Y. 17:20, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Black Friday (1869)

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Found this very interesting, looked this up after reading an article in MENA paper on the black cohosh plant that flowers, which mentioned a lady that made a remedy for female conditions Lidia Pinkham  she had to find a way to support her family during the this crash, she made millions by todays standards, looking up the economic crash of 1873 lead me here http://www.revelation13.net/economy.html jabborwock2001@aol.com

The following comment was made in the article by 68.53.82.200. I have moved it here.
 * This is a VERY interesting subject; not endowed with the details it deserves. It seems there are many ambiguities and/or lack of information concerning the "Black Friday" phenomenon.  I know this isn't exactly a "forum", however I'd like to express my dissatisfaction with this(simplified) explanation.  But, as a disclaimer:  it seems these days >->history as well as reality is only a perception.

Moved by 12.116.162.162 19:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Gold price correction
This paragraph was incorrect:
 * On September 20, 1869, Gould and Fisk started hoarding gold, driving the price higher. On September 24, the price of an ounce of gold was $30 higher than when Grant took office. But when the government gold hit the market, the price of gold plummetted within minutes. Investors scrambled to sell their holdings, and many of them, including Corbin, were ruined.

I changed it to:
 * On September 20, 1869, Gould and Fisk started hoarding gold, driving the price higher. On 24 September the premium on a gold Double Eagle (representing one ounce of gold bullion at $20) was 30 per cent higher than when Grant took office. But when the government gold hit the market, the premium plummetted within minutes. Investors scrambled to sell their holdings, and many of them, including Corbin, were ruined.

I think this is more accurate but needs further research by an expert. --mervyn 15:05, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

I made a minor edit so the names of Fisk and Gould appear in the same order throughout the article as in the name of the scandal - just a minor OCD twitch (wasn't signed in, redoing sig)--Legomancer (talk) 07:26, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Funky title
The accompanying article is one of either
 * 9 7 that have as title "Black Friday" ...
 * 5 2 that have as title "Black Saturday" ... or
 * 1 that have as title "Black Monday" ...

... (in each case) disambiguated by a parenthesized year. Since this is in contrast to all the other days of the week, that style probably is unneeded and reflects either ignorance of the acceptability of Dab-page entries like
 * Black Tuesday, September 11, 2001 attacks

or something like a lack of persistence in weighing possible titles. I have not investigated them individually; instead, i suggest review, of each article, by one or more editors with prior interest in its corresponding topic, with an eye to finding a title that either avoids the "Black ...day" or disambiguates it with something more evocative than a year. Years are good tools for helping users who happen to have seen a brief reference to "Black Friday" and have at least rough idea of the year involved, but giving priority to that case in titling the article, rather than letting the Dab page handle that job, is almost always an impediment to most users seeking the article. Almost certainly, most of the 15 10 should be renamed. --Jerzy•t 06:16 & 06:39, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Missing the Point?
Just trying to understand what this black friday was about, and i don't understand it.
 * On September 24 the premium on a gold Double Eagle (representing 0.9675 troy ounce of gold bullion at $20) was 30 percent higher than when Grant took office. But when the government gold hit the market, the premium plummeted within minutes.

So the goverment was selling gold before, then it started selling more gold and the market crashed. What was the scam, and why did the goverement selling more gold break it?

Gould was buying up tons of gold, that means it would of taken a lot of capital to do that, yet he survived the market crash and others didn't. Why? Did he just lose money and nothing else, where as the others had over extended their finances and couldn't tolerate the loss, or did Gould sell his gold off before the crash?

And i still don't see what his objective was by raising the price. Unless i'm being dim, this article seems to be written with the readers already knowning what black friday was about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.222.222 (talk) 09:55, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

 * Gould wanted to make money on gold by cornering the gold market. He manipulated many people into the plot.  The crime was not that the price of gold was raised, the crime was predatory manipulation of the United States government.  Gould wanted Grant and Boutwell to not sell anymore gold in order to make huge profits.  Gould and his partner Fisk willfully intented to defraud the United States Treasury.  Grant became suspicious of their manipulation and increased the sale of government gold to stop the scam. Cmguy777 (talk) 19:02, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Change title
The title should be changed to Gold Panic (1869). It accurately reflects the events that led to the price of gold crashing in September. Any objections? Cmguy777 (talk) 19:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Steely Dan
The title may come from the event, but seems unlikely it was "written about this event". There were no 14th floors out of which to jump in 1869 nor any planes on which to fly to Musswellbrook (though I'll buy 'fly' in the more general meaning of 'flee') — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.184.197.189 (talk) 19:19, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Presidents manipulating gold market
A clarification of the following was requested. "Also, Grant's order to release gold in response to gold's rising price was itself a manipulation of the market. Grant had personally declined to listen to Gould's ambitious plan to corner the gold market, since the scheme was not announced publicly.."

Actually, it was the president's duty to stabilize the price of gold. When the country is on the gold standard, the reserves should be sold when the price goes up, bought when the price goes down. This was trivial compared to Franklin Roosevelt's doubling the price of gold during the depression. Start with Executive Order 6102. Student7 (talk) 17:07, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

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New York Times
Here is a great New York Times article on how the Gold Ring was viewed in October, 1869: The Gold Ring New York Times (October 18, 1869) Cmguy777 (talk) 07:16, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Great find! Caught this on my way out the door. Will catch up this evening. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 18:57, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * This article gives information on the Tweed Ring, who actively campaigned along with Fisk and Gould, attempting to bring down Grant and Butterfield. The article says there was no evidence against Grant and defends Butterfield from criminal activity. Cmguy777 (talk) 02:52, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Article name change
I believe this article needs a name change. If one looks at the viewership for November it is obvious this article gets mixed up with Black Friday after Thanksgiving. I suggest either Gold Panic (1869) or ''Gold Ring (1869). Cmguy777 (talk) 16:18, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That's something to consider. When you begin to type in 'Black Friday' in the WP search window a list of article titles beginning with 'Black Fri ...' appears, with Black Friday (shopping) at the top, while Black Friday (1869) appears a number of places down the list. Don't know if this is causing problems for readers looking for this article. Bear in mind that topics such as this are usually 'discovered' (esp by students and those new to American history) in the course of reading the main, well known subjects, such as Ulysses S. Grant. Having said that, I noticed that the number of views for this article maxed out at approximately 4000 on November 25, Black Friday shopping day. I wonder how many of those 'shoppers' looked into the article while they were here. I would suspect not many. Normally this article gets about 300 views a day. Tough call. We might want to get other opinions. A name change could result in fewer views. Seems like 'gold panic' is even a less familiar term. Wish there was a way to determine how readers come to the page. It would seem most arrive here by clicking on a link while reading the main article. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 16:41, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I get what you're saying, but that's the name the event is commonly known by. McFeely and Smith even have Black Friday in their indexes (White may, too, my copy doesn't have an index). I suspect it will end up like the many days known as Bloody Sunday. But unless there's some other common name for the event, I think we're stuck with it. --Coemgenus (talk) 17:53, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The chapter title in White (2016) is Gold Panic and represents the most current research. To me that is all encompassing of what went on. Black Friday is only about one day when Grant and Boutwell broke the Gold Ring. As mentioned, practically speaking readers mistake Black Friday (1869) for Black Friday (shopping) article. In my opinion this would warrant a name change. Cmguy777 (talk) 20:15, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Is there a way to change the title but keep the Black Friday (1869) link. Maybe Rjensen could help in this matter. Cmguy777 (talk) 20:24, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * A renamed (moved) article will create a redirect. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:26, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Did a google search for 'Black Friday' and reference to this subject doesn't even show up. Did another search for 'Gold Panic' and most of the results were for video games, with one reference (listed as Black Friday) to the WP article here. Still not much of a showing. The NYT's article that Cm' found is titled 'The Gold Ring', and Ackerman's book is titled 'The Gold Ring: Jim Fisk, Jay Gould, and Black Friday, 1869. Apparently there isn't any one prevailing title, and subsequently it won't make much difference which title we choose, so perhaps we should just leave it. If we want to bring more viewers to this article it seems we should link to it in other appropriate articles. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:26, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Just added a link to this page in the 'See also' section of the following articles : Ponzi scheme * List of Ponzi schemes * Denver Depression of 1893 * Panic of 1857 * Panic of 1893. These articles are viewed hundreds of times a day and should increase the number of views to this article. After about a month we'll see for sure. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:44, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * If people are looking for a shopping guide then they will take under 3 seconds to decide "Black Friday 1869 " is not useful for them. Let's keep a historically accurate title that will not fool an 8th grader. Rjensen (talk) 21:30, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks Rjensen. Looks like I am getting outvoted, but apparently about 3,500 people were mistaken by the article title on 11/25/2016. To me that is signifigant. I prefer to call the article The Gold Panic (1869) since that is what White (2016) calls the scandal. The Gold Ring: Jim Fisk, Jay Gould, and Black Friday, 1869 by Ackerman was originally published in 1988 although it has a 2011 copyright. Black Friday only refers to September 24, 1869 the day when the Gold Ring got broken. The speculators in the Gold Ring are called the Gold Pool. I can go by editor concensus on this one. Cmguy777 (talk) 00:28, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * -- Yes, I have split feelings on this one, but prefer we keep the existing title. To help matters I just created redirect pages for Gold panic of 1869 and Gold conspiracy of 1869 and also listed this article on the Gold ring disambiguation page. I also linked this article in about eight other articles, some of them named above. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 00:50, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Lede
Cm' is your last edit to the lede the best? White mentions that Grant's association with Gould and Fisk helped their efforts in the gold scandal, but is he "critical"? What about Brands and Smith? I'll have to double check. Seems a blanket statement about historians may not be that accurate. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 00:57, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Smith (2001) page 484 Cmguy777 (talk) 01:53, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * White (2016) page 482 Cmguy777 (talk) 01:53, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Both Smith and White contend that Grant's appearances with Gould and Fisk gave them both clout on Wall Street. Cmguy777 (talk) 01:53, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, but again, does this amount to criticism? The last sentence in the lede more than suggests that Grant was complicit in the eyes of historians and is not consistent with the sentence that comes before it and in the body of text in that Grant & co foiled the efforts of Gould and Fisk. Even if White and Smith were actually "critical" of Grant on this note, are they representative of all historians? 'Critical' is too obtuse and misleading of a term. I'd recommend editing the last sentence. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 02:58, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * This is what makes Grant difficult. He stopped the Gold Ring but he also met with the leaders of the Gold Ring several times giving them clout. I believe Boutwell actually stopped selling gold in September from the Treasury, because Grant took Gould's bait believing it would help farmers in the West. Grant himself is not consistant, although he did not profit in anyway from the Gold Ring. Cmguy777 (talk) 04:53, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, yes, yes -- Grant met with Gould and Fisk. But does White, Smith, et al "criticize" Grant to the extent, as the current lede more than suggests, he was 'knowingly' complicit in the conspiracy? We need a more inclusive and neutral statement here. Don't know of any source that nails Grant's hide to the door of the Tenth National Bank on this idea. What does McFeely and Ackerman say? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 05:18, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I made some changes to the lede...I reworded the part about Grant being seen with Gould and Fisk...I tried to summarize the events in the lede section. Feel free to make changes. It is a difficult scandal to summarize in my opinion. Cmguy777 (talk) 05:55, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Much better! Bear in mind however, that "historians note" everything, not just the "clout" afforded to Gould and Fisk from Grant's reputation. The established facts shouldn't be difficult to summarize. However, trying to summarize overall historical consensus on this one topic may prove difficult, as many of Grant's biographers concentrate their coverage on Grant's military life and overall presidency, if that. Of the ones that cover it, none seem to mention that Grant was complicit, though I'm not sure what McFeely or Ackerman says here. Any ideas? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 16:51, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * There are a couple of items that needed attention. Added a point of context, and mentioned The Gold Ring in the lede. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 16:51, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like we have a Good Article on the horizon. Will start considering ideas for a DYK statement. With the idea that a DYK statement should be especially interesting, if not unusual, we should come up with something in the near future. Meanwhile we can tend to the details, included any needed content/context and make any needed tweaks. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:00, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No biographers say Grant was complicit, even Gould said Grant was an honest man. But I believe Ackeram does point out that Boutwell did stop his weekly gold sales in September because apparently Grant took Gould's bait of helping farmers in the West. Had the gold market been driven freely without the Gold Ring monopoly, farmers would have been helped. I suppose there is a grain of golden truth to every lie. It was not until mid September that Grant realized Gould and Fisk were corning the gold market and cared nothing about farmers. This would go along with Grant being too trusting of Gould and Fisk on face value. The article should mention that Boutwell stopped his weekly gold sales in September. Two or three weeks went by without any gold sales from the Treasury. That was enough time to corner the market. The Gold Ring was Fisk, Gould, and Corbin. The Gold Pool were all the speculators. The Gold Panic was what economic turmoil that ensued after Boutwell released $4,000,000 in gold on September 24, 1869 aka Black Friday crushing the Gold Ring monopoly. A Good Article nomination would be great. What is a DYK statement ? Cmguy777 (talk) 19:23, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Ackerman
Ackerman's book appears very informative and cover's Tweed's involvement in the conspiracy in depth, but the online viewing doesn't reveal its page numbers, at least not from my end. Ackerman's book describes the various personal relationships between Gould, Fisk, Corbin, Butterfield, etc in great detail. e.g.Butterfield was a Civil War hero, served at Gettysburg and served under Sherman when he marched on Georgia and was a personal friend of the Corbin family. Am tempted to use this source by citing the chapter name/number, but this would certainly cause issues when the article goes through a GA review, if not before. Am off to the library to order it. Hope to have it in hand in a matter of days. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 19:10, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Ackerman source is a good addition for the article. Some online books don't have page numbers and the only way to get page numbers is actual purchase of the book. Amazon online edition may have the page numbers. That would have to be checked. Cmguy777 (talk) 19:25, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Content
Cm' one of your last edits is getting a bit tangential:

 *  In October 1871, a group of New York reformers called the Committee of Seventy, including Grant's future Attorney General Edwards Pierrepont, shut down Boss Tweed's corrupt Tammany Hall.

While interesting this occurred two years later in late '71 and doesn't appear to have anything to do with the gold scandal. Unless we can show a direct relationship between the gold scandal, Gould's foiled efforts and the closure of Tammany Hall we should keep this out of the narrative. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:37, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Gould was part of Tammany Hall. Corrupt judges from Tammany Hall kept Gould and Fisk from being prosecuted. This institution was shut down in October 1871. Also Tammany Hall spread rumors that Grant was profiting from the Gold Ring. There was no evidence given Grant was complicit. The Tweed Ring and Tammany Hall are one in the same. Cmguy777 (talk) 01:17, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, but Tammany was not closed down because of the gold conspiracy or Gould, and the statement in question has links to subjects not related to Black Friday. Again, the statement is tangential. Tammany was not shut down because some of its members spread rumors about Grant. Also, Tammany Hall existed into the 20th century and was closed down during the 1960's (!) so I'm not sure where you're getting your information from -- the statement doesn't have a citation. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:42, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Otoh, I'd welcome a little context about Gould being a member of Tammany, and how its corrupt judges shielded him from prosecution. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:47, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

 * The content is that Judge Albert Cardozo shielded Fisk and Gould from conviction. [Smith (2001), page 490] I gave the reference in the article. Cardozo and Gould were part of the Tweed Ring or Tammany Hall. In other words Tammany Haul kept Fisk and Gould from being prosecuted. That is how Tammany Hall is involved in the Gold Ring. Cmguy777 (talk) 02:55, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Great. Tammany closed down in the 1960's. Black Friday had nothing to do with it. Let's get the right stuff in there. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 03:43, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Albert Cardozo was part of Tammany Hall or the Tweed Ring. I did get it right. I gave the Smith reference. Cmguy777 (talk) 04:23, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Tammany closed down in the 1960's. Black Friday had nothing to do with it. The edit in question (posted above) links to Pierrepont, not Cardozo, and wasn't sourced, with Smith, or anyone. As I said, content about Gould being a member of Tammany, corrupt judges, etc is welcomed. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 16:20, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The Tweed Ring that ran Tammany Hall protected Fisk and Gould from prosecution. Cardoza was a Tweed Ring judge. This was shut down in 1871. I added two references. Cmguy777 (talk) 18:13, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, the ring was prosecuted and shut down in 1871, not the Hall itself. Thanks. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 18:37, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Stopped sale of gold
I believe Boutwell actually stopped the sale of Treasury gold in September and did not resume until September 24. This was because Grant felt it would help farmers in the West sell their crops. I believe this needs to be in the article. I believe Ackerman is the source that says Boutwell stopped selling gold from the Treasury. Cmguy777 (talk) 22:33, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. As long as we're not adding items that are tangential, controversial, fringe, etc I have no issues with anyone adding content, context without checking with editors on the talk page first. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 00:44, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I added this information, but there is no page number for the Ackerman (2011) reference. As as been mentioned there are no page numbers on Google Books for Ackerman's book. Cmguy777 (talk) 21:41, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Cm', assuming this is you, you apparently forgot to log in. We can use Ackerman by citing chapter numbers, but we'll of course have to supply page numbers soon before someone (or a bot) comes along and tags (w/ ) these items. Unless the info is unique and can't be found in other sources, I'd recommend we use our existing sources to add any additional content until one or both of us have Ackerman's actual book. This way we won't have to fish through the article and cite the same items again. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 15:20, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Ackerman can tie this article together. But the actual book is needed for the page numbers. Grant's letter to Boutwell vetoing Boutwell selling gold is important in September. Cmguy777 (talk) 21:43, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * We will need the actual book for page numbers. Ackerman's work is dedicated to the subject -- looking forward to its arrival. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 22:17, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Other sources
Found some older publications about Jay Gould and James Fisk that may prove helpful.

 * Halstead, (1892)  Jay Gould, how he made his millions, 499 pages

-- Gwillhickers (talk) 23:02, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * White, Trumbull (1893}  Wizard of Wall Street and his wealth, or, The life and deeds of Jay Gould, 358 pages
 * Northrop, (1892)  Life and achievements of Jay Gould, 542 pages
 * Jones, (1872)  Life of James Fisk ... the Great Frauds of the Tammany Ring, 513 pages

Images
At first the gallery seemed like a practical idea, however it seems some of these images, esp Grant, Gould and Fisk, would be better placed in the appropriate sections where the readers can view them as they go along through the narrative, while the pictures of currency, and the cartoon should give way to these and be in the gallery or elsewhere. The lede image should be kept where it is. With this in mind, I have tentatively arranged them so. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:32, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. Looks great. Should Garfield be paired with Butterfield in the photos ? It might look like Garfield is a conspirator since he is linked to Butterfield. Cmguy777 (talk) 02:02, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Rivals are often paired. Perhaps we can clarify matters with some caption work. Better yet, we can put Boutwell's mug next to Garfield's. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 02:21, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Rivals ? Butterfield and Garfield were not rivals. Gould and Fisk are good paired because they were partners. Boutwell tesitified at the Congressional hearing. I am not sure that is a good pairing. I would pair Boutwell and Grant. They worked together to destroy the Gold Ring. Cmguy777 (talk) 07:08, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I paired Boutwell up with Grant. They were the team the broke up the Gold Ring. Cmguy777 (talk) 07:50, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Creating the Breaking the Gold Ring section was a good idea also. I tweaked Garfield's image a tad smaller so as not to suggest he had more prominence over the others. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 08:29, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't mind if Garfield's image is larger since he was in charge of the Congressional investigation. I think that section could be expanded, for example listing persons who testitfied. The book about Fisk says Fisk talked really fast and used profanities at his hearing before Garfield. Fisk wanted Grant's wife and sister to testify at the hearing too. Orville Babcock needs to be mentioned because he speculated and lost money in the Ring. McFeely (1981) mentions that Boutwell in addition to releasing Treasury gold physically shut down the New York Gold Room on Friday September 24 using bank examiners. There is a photo in the Fisk book that shows the Gold Pool speculators outside on the street. This may have been done because the Gold Room was shut down. Cmguy777 (talk) 16:45, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Garfield comes in to the picture after the scandal and is less important or as prominent in the story than Grant, Gould, Fisk and Corbin. If Garfield didn't chair the investigation committee it would have been someone else. Also, I've no objection to adding more minor details if they help to exemplify what we've already presented, and keeping in mind that they should be balanced out among other important topics throughout the article. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:11, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The difference with Garfield is that he was actually impartial to Grant, Julia, and Grant's sister, maybe generous. But during the Civil War Grant and Garfield did not get along with each other. As far as I know Grant never offered Garfield a federal appointment. I am all for balance in the article. The signifigance of the Garfield investigation is that it closes the Gold Panic scandal and gives Fisk's, Gould's, and Boutwell's testimony. Cmguy777 (talk) 18:14, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, there are all sorts of differences. The fact remains that if it wasn't for Gould, Fisk and Corbin we wouldn't even be discussing Garfield. Remember, we're talking about image size here. Garfield's pic is, nor should be, no larger than the rest, esp Grant's. It can easily be argued that Garfield may not even warrant his own picture, but I've no issues about that, either. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 18:49, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

GA nomination
Looks like we're getting close to a GA nomination. However, there is one rather important item that needs a citation. The last sentence in the Breaking the Gold Ring section : -- Speculators known as the Gold Pool scrambled to sell their holdings, and many of them, including Corbin, were ruined. -- This statement has been in the article without a cite since 2009. I've looked in White, Brands, and Smith and can't seem to find one that definitively says Corbin was ruined. We know he was in fear of such, but we need to find a source that nails the idea in no uncertain terms. Mcfeely only offers partial viewing on line, with pages 328-346 blocked out, just after the part where Gould is offering Corbin $100,000 to not dump his gold on the market and keep his revealing letter from his wife confidential from other speculators. It would seem any mention of Corbin's ruin came shortly after coverage of this episode. If you have McFeely's book could you check? Also, we'll need the page numbers for the Ackerman cites. I've ordered the book from the library and expect to have it any day now. Last, let's make sure there's no close paraphrasing to speak of. After that I suspect that the only thing that may get in the way of a GA article are the images in the gallery. Let's hope the reviewers don't go robotic on us. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 08:52, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. I think Ackerman used the term Gold Pool. I don't have a copy of the book so I can't cite what page number. Corbin was ruined on September 24 and he refused to take Gould's $100,000 check. What should be mentioned is how much Gould and Fisk made from cornering the gold market. Gould made a profit since he was secretly selling his gold having insider information from Corbin. Cmguy777 (talk) 16:51, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * We still need a source that definitively says Corbin was ruined, or the passage will have to remained tagged or removed. From what I've read, Gould and Fisk came away from the investigation "unscathed ", (Smith, p. 490) but he doesn't mention how much profit, if any, they walked away with in terms of actual dollars and cents. I think it's safe to assume Gould and Fisk profited but we can't assume and say so unless we have a source that supports this assumption. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:02, 14 December 2016 (UTC).

McFeely
Do either of you happen to have McFeely, 2012? We're looking for a source that supports the idea that Abel Corbin, who was married to Grant's younger sister, was actually "ruined" by the Black Friday scandal. Can't seem to confirm this idea with any of the current sources used here. Any help here would be greatly appreciated. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:08, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * sorry, no. Rjensen (talk) 20:11, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I have the 1981 edition, not the 2002 reprint. McFeely says of Corbin, "Because of the collapse, Corbin could not realize enough on the sale of his gold to cover the loan he had taken out to buy it. Although not altogether ruined, he did find himself in greatly diminished circumstances. The Corbins moved to Jersey City." That's page 328 in my edition, I don't know if the pagination was changed in any later reprints. --Coemgenus (talk) 23:50, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. If we have to we can add your edition to the bibliography, and mention that Corbin could not make good on his loans, and let the readers decide if this amounts to actual 'ruin'. I just got Ackerman's book from the library today. Will look to see if he sheds any light on this. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:22, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * McFeely (1981) does not say Corbin was ruined. Remember he had made money as a real estate speculator and lived in a mansion. He lost money on the loan. He was impoverished but not ruined. Cmguy777 (talk) 17:47, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The other day I asked if you could check McFeely's (actual) book, hoping that you had it and am still wondering if you do. In your last edit, are you using McFeely 1981 or 2002? Our bibliography indicated 1981 but linked to the 2002 edition. (I've since corrected the date.) In any case, could you quote the passage you are referring to. Does Mcfeely actually say Corbin "lost money on his loan" or are we assuming this based on the idea that speculators in general lost money? At first your edit seemed okay but checking the source on line, Mcfeely 2002, p. 328, is not available for viewing. The original unsourced statement (added in 2004) said Corbin was "ruined", so I'm not sure if there is a source out there somewhere that says this. Still digesting Ackerman. So far as I've read he doesn't refer to Corbin directly regarding losses. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:56, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * McFeely (1981), a reliable source, says Corbin lost money on his loan. I gave the page number. I do not know if there is any difference between the 2002 text and the 1981 text. Copyrights are renewed because copyrights expire. McFeely (1981) says "...Corbin could not realize enough on the sale of his gold to cover the loan he had taken out to buy it...", on page 328. Cmguy777 (talk) 18:55, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * McFeely (1981) on page 328 says Corbin moved to Jersey City. I take this to mean that Corbin had to sell his New York mansion to make up the loss on his loan. However, McFeely does not specifically say this. Cmguy777 (talk) 19:00, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Not sure why you felt the need to imply that I said McFeely '81 is not a reliable source, I didn't even imply it wasn't. In any case, I removed "not completely impoverished", as the source doesn't say to what degree Corbin lost money in terms of 'ruin' or 'impoverishment'. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 19:57, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * "Copyrights are renewed because copyrights expire." I should note that the 1981 edition of McFeely's Grant is under copyright still. The different date represent different editions, which sometimes mean that the pages aren't the same, but sometimes doesn't. But it's the same work, same copyright. It will remain under copyright until we are all dead. Don't know how relevant this is to your discussion, but it's a good thing to know when editing Wikipedia. --Coemgenus (talk) 20:10, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Copyrights expire 70 years after an authors death normally. Why? This prevents the work from going into public domain so publishers can make more profits and potentially the heirs of the author. McFeely made money on Grant, let's be honest here. I don't know how much, and I don't really care. His Pulitzer Prize, stamped on the front cover of his book, increased sales. I would like to view historians living in an ivory tower neutrally writing works without influence from money, fame, or publication. Why the 2002 copyright? Was that to extend his work to be in copyright status for another 20 years ? I don't pretend to be an attorney, but are their copyrights that last forever ? Cmguy777 (talk) 20:50, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Sources: How Long Does Copyright Protection Last? ; Duration of Copyright Cmguy777 (talk) 21:25, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * In most cases the publisher owns and controls the copyright. Copyright law allows us to make "fair use" excerpts of a few hundred words but we cannot put the whole book on line. [the federal law on copyright fair use favors Wikipedia usage; we are helping sales not hurting them]. Rjensen (talk) 21:31, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * "In General. — Copyright in a work created on or after January 1, 1978, subsists from its creation and, except as provided by the following subsections, endures for a term consisting of the life of the author and 70 years after the author's death." U.S. Copyright Office § 302 . Duration of copyright: Works created on or after January 1, 1978 Cmguy777 (talk) 21:34, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Source: Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use Cmguy777 (talk) 21:44, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Right, of course we can exerpt, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. It would be hard to publish any decent scholarship if you couldn't ever quote anyone! --Coemgenus (talk) 22:38, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * This is only my opinion, but I believe Wikipedia is more neutral then published biographies. There are no profit motivations, just educational, and any POV issues are disputed by editors. Cmguy777 (talk) 23:24, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Gould had made his fortune as a cotton smuggler during the Civil War?
The article reads "Gould had made his fortune as a cotton smuggler during the Civil War" - however, there's no mention of cotton smuggling in Gould's page. Fisk's page on the other hand, does mention cotton smuggling. Is there a mixup here? Does anyone have an actual copy of White that they can refer to in order to clear this up? --.froth. (talk) 06:15, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

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Nomi, Ishikawa

Nomi (能美市) is a city located in Ishikawa Prefecture, Japan. , the city had an estimated population of 50,132 in 18,585 households, and a population density of 600 persons per km2. The total area of the city was 84.14 sqkm.

Geography
Nomi is located in southwestern Ishikawa Prefecture and is bordered by the Sea of Japan to the east.

Neighbouring municipalities

 * Ishikawa Prefecture
 * Komatsu
 * Hakusan
 * Kawakita

Climate
Nomi has a humid continental climate (Köppen Cfa) characterized by mild summers and cold winters with heavy snowfall. The average annual temperature in Nomi is 14.1 °C. The average annual rainfall is 2,527 mm with September as the wettest month. The temperatures are highest on average in August, at around 26.8 °C, and lowest in January, at around 2.7 °C.

Demographics
Per Japanese census data, the population of Nomi has recently plateaued after a long period of growth.

History
The area around Nomi was part of ancient Kaga Province and contains numerous Kofun period ruins. The area became part Kaga Domain under the Edo period Tokugawa shogunate. Following the Meiji restoration, the area was organised into Nomi District, Ishikawa. The town of Nomi was established with the creation of the modern municipalities system on April 1, 1889.

The modern city of Nomi was established on February 1, 2005, from the merger of the towns of Neagari, Tatsunokuchi and Terai.

Government
Nomi has a mayor-council form of government with a directly elected mayor and a unicameral city legislature of 17 members.

Economy
Former Terai town was a noted centre of Kutani ware ceramics production in the past. Manufacturing of electrical components and textiles are major contributors to the modern local economy.

Education
Nomi has eight public elementary schools and three middle schools operated by the city government, and one public high school operated by the Ishikawa Prefectural Board of Education. There is also one private high school. The Japan Advanced Institute of Science and Technology (JAIST Hokuriku) is also located in Nomi.

Railway
Effective 16 March 2024, JR West no longer operates in Nomi as its operations on the Hokuriku Main Line have since been transferred to the IR Ishikawa Railway.

IR Ishikawa Railway
 * Nomi-Neagari

Highway

 * Hokuriku Expressway

Sister city relations

 * 🇷🇺 - Shelekhov, Irkutsk Oblast (Russia)

Local attractions

 * Hideki Matsui Baseball Museum (ja:松井秀喜ベースボールミュージアム)
 * Tedori Fish Land (ja:手取フィッシュランド)
 * Tumulus Wada-yama and Matsuji-yama
 * Tumulus Akitsune-yama - Keyhole-shaped tomb.
 * Ishikawa Zoo (ja:いしかわ動物園)
 * Tatsunokuchi Onsen (辰口温泉) - Spa.

Local events

 * Asian Race Walking Championships, held annually

Noted people from Nomi

 * Hideki Matsui, baseball player
 * Yoshirō Mori, former prime minister
 * Shigeki Mori, town mayor of Neagari - Mori was responsible for Neagari's sister town relationship with Shelekhov, Russia, developing a bilateral dialogue to improve the gravesites of Soviet soldiers in Japan and Japanese soldiers in Siberia. He visited Shelekhov more than 15 times during his 35 years in office, and was buried there following his death. His son, Yoshiro Mori, became prime minister and made major strides in Russo-Japanese relations.
 * Mamoru Sasaki, Japanese TV and film screenwriter
 * Yusuke Suzuki, racewalker

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John Frederick Weishampel Jr.

John Frederick Weishampel Jr. (Baltimore, Maryland, April 22, 1832 – 189?) was an American printer and publisher based at 484 West Baltimore Street in Baltimore. Weishampel was a third-generation Prussian-American and son of Rev. John Frederick Weishampel.

Noah Davis
In 1859 Weishampel published A Narrative of the Life of Rev. Noah Davis, a Colored Man, a slave narrative and autobiography written by Noah Davis, a Baptist minister who had bought his freedom from slavery. Davis had been born into slavery in Madison County, Virginia and learned various trades. In 1818 he moved to Fredericksburg, where he learned to read and write. In 1831 he was baptized into the Fredericksburg Baptist Church. Davis married a fellow church member and eventually purchased his own freedom using funds raised while working as a missionary in Africa. By 1851, Davis purchased his wife's freedom and continued working in order to purchase the freedom of his several children. He thought to raise money by writing an account of his life, and Weishampel's publication of his work assisted in this effort. From the sales of the book and money raised by himself and his wife, Davis was able to free five of their seven children.

Publications

 * A Narrative of the Life of Rev. Noah Davis, a Colored Man. Written by Himself, at the Age of Fifty-Four. by Noah Davis, published J. F. Weishampel Jr. (1859)
 * New and Enlarged Map of Baltimore City. Engraved by E. Sachse & Co. and published by John F. Weishampel Jr., based on surveys by Wm. H. Shipley. (1872)
 * History of Baptist Churches in Maryland, 1742 – 1885. by Harvey Johnson (1842–1923), Baltimore: J.F. Weishampel Jr., (1885)
 * The Stranger in Baltimore: A New Hand Book Containing a General Description of Baltimore City and its Notable Localities, With Other information Useful to Both Citizens and Strangers. by J. F. Weishampel Jr. (1885)
 * Weishampel's Baltimore Guide: The Stranger in Baltimore: a New Hand Nook, Containing a General Description of Baltimore with Other Information (1888)
 * The Man Christ Jesus: Character and Purpose of Jesus by J. F. Weishampel Jr. (1894))
 * The Pope's Stratagem: "Rome to America!": An address to the Protestants of the United States, against placing the Pope's block of marble in the Washington monument. by J. F. Weishampel Jr. (date unknown)
 * Revivals and Revival Measures by J.F. Weishampel Jr. (1860)

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Chain ganging

Chain ganging is a term in the field of international relations describing the elevated probability for interstate conflict or conflagration due to several states having joined in alliances or coalitions.

The agreed principles of such alliances typically include mutual defence clauses requiring that, in the case of one member state suffering military attack from another power, all members must declare hostilities against that offending power. The result of such an arrangement is an elevated probability for an international conflagration, since the case of an actor attacking another power would almost certainly trigger, whether intentionally or not, a multinational conflict potentially involving many more actors than the original two states which had attacked and been attacked, respectively.

According to sworn agreements or treaties no member state has the option to refuse to participate in this involvement: once the states have agreed to the alliance, they are bound by obligation to join in the hostilities or conflagration as soon as they have begun in one state (though this obligation is not always honoured).

Chain ganging is believed to be most effective in a scenario with a multipolar balance of power where the allied states have a military advantage over potential enemies. Chain ganging is also often discussed in relation and comparison to its counterpart Buck passing. Both are derived from Neorealism and are existent in a multipolar system but chain ganging requires aggressive state behaviour to occur.

Examples
An empirical example of the chain-ganging dilemma is World War I. When Italy decided to part from the Triple Alliance, both Austria-Hungary and Germany were alone for the most part in Europe (though Bulgaria and the Ottoman Empire joined Austria-Hungary and Germany to form the Central Powers), and surrounded by the Allied Powers. The defeat of either of the two would severely weaken the remaining member. According to Kenneth Waltz, "The defeat or defection of a major ally would have shaken the balance, each state was constrained to adjust its strategy and the use of its forces to the aims and fears of its partners."

Due to conflict between China and the United States, both sides have been engaging in chaining themselves to far eastern states prompting some to declare the region likely play host to the chain gang dilemma should conflict escalate in that region with the Philippines to claim an attack on America is an attack on the Philippines and vice versa during the Spratly Islands dispute.

Etymology
The term is a metaphor deriving from chain gangs, groups of people, usually prisoners or slaves, bound together with chains or other devices as they work or march. Like a real-life chain gang, the states joined in a chain gang, according to bound obligation, have no option to refuse to follow along with the intent of the others. However, in reality, the members of a chain gang coalition can and sometimes do choose to refuse to acquiesce, in which case they may face international ostracism (at least from the other members of their former alliance), and possibly courtship on the part of rival coalitions. This is because, typically, few punitive actions exists in the realm of international law that can sufficiently compel a power to follow its obligations at all costs, and therefore, the incentives to breaking ranks can sometimes be rather high, especially when the state does not agree with the actions taken by the other members of its coalition.

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User talk:Mrax

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Rarity

Rarity may refer to:

Concepts

 * Economic rarity, or scarcity, the economic problem of human want exceeding limited resources
 * Species rarity, the position of species organisms being very uncommon or infrequently encountered

People

 * John Rarity, an English physicist

Fictional characters

 * Rarity, a character in My Little Pony Crystal Princess: The Runaway Rainbow
 * Rarity, a character in My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic

Music

 * Rarity (band), a Canadian rock band

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User:Lesouris

Quick Facts

I am Lesouris and I currently reside in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I have been contributing to Wikipedia since 2002. My interests include politics, law, history, religion and philosophy, art, architecture, and linguistics. Most of my contributions have dealt with these topics.

I began editing on Wikipedia by fixing spelling and grammar mistakes and by organising pages so that they are easier to read. I began writing entire pages when I found many of the articles I read contained references to things which as yet did not have pages of their own. Most of these pages dealt with Canadian history, important buildings and places, and now obscure religious and political movements.

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Souths Logan Magpies

The Souths Logan Magpies, more commonly referred to by their former names Southern Suburbs Magpies, or South Brisbane Magpies, or often simply referred to as Souths, are a rugby league football club based in the southern suburbs of Brisbane, Australia. They play in the Intrust Super Cup, and although officially are a newer club (having been formed in 2003), they have roots tracing back (as Souths Magpies) to as early as 1910, the second year of rugby league in Queensland.

Queensland Rugby League
The first rugby league club to represent the southern side of the Brisbane River was West End, who entered the Queensland Rugby League premiership in 1910. Playing in an all black strip, the club won the 1913 premiership against Natives 5–3 in a low scoring game, and were runners-up to Valleys the following year, going down by 18–8. The West End Club played their last season in the Senior Grade in 1920.

The Carlton Football Club was founded in 1918 as a Junior Grade (Reserve Grade) Club to compete in the QRL competition. The club was founded by members of the Brothers Old Boys Junior Division (modern day Reserve Graders) along the same lines of the Merthyr Football Club Senior Division (modern day "A" Graders) in 1917. The members wanted to stay together and play football and since the QRU had abandoned Senior Football, they saw this as their only option.

When the QRU Senior Grade competitions recommenced in 1919 the vast majority of the members of both the Merthyr and Carlton Clubs returned to play with the Brothers Club; however, a number of members decided to stay with the League Game and the name and colours of the Carlton Football remained with the QRL. The Carlton Club was also promoted to the Senior Grade of the QRL Competition.

Carltons wore maroon and white jerseys, were a relatively successful club, winning the competition in 1921 (vs. Coorparoo 12–10), 1925 (vs. Coorparoo 24–5) and 1930 (vs. Valleys 19–8).

Brisbane Rugby League
Following the introduction of District Football in 1933 by the Brisbane Rugby League, Carltons were forced to relinquish their identity and as a result became known as Southern Suburbs. Souths inherited a debt of 90 pounds, and also suffered an exodus of players, resulting in doubts over their ability to field a first-grade team. However, newly elected President Jack Adams started the club with regular meetings under his West End clothing factory, which also made the club's first jerseys free of charge.

During World War II, a lack of dyes for clothing forced the club to change jerseys, a problem that faced many clubs throughout Australia. Souths adopted the old West End jersey, and after the war chose to keep the design, and added a white V. (Southern Suburbs were known as the Lions up to the late-fifties, it was in the early sixties that they took on the Magpie logo) The war also saw them leave their spiritual home of Davies Park, which was first used in 1910, as it was used as housing for American servicemen in the city. Although they had an acute shortage of players, they continued to field teams, playing and training out of Musgrave Park in South Brisbane.

Souths made their first grand final in 1942, however went down to Brothers 20–11. In 1945 they broke their premiership drought in most emphatic fashion, becoming the first club to clean-sweep the BRL in first, reserve and third grades. They also won two junior premierships in that same year. This was followed with more premierships in 1949, 1951 and 1953. Bill Tyquin, a product of Souths district, was captain-coach of the 1949 team, and went on to become an outstanding administrator and President of the club, as well as a delegate to the Brisbane Rugby League. As a tribute, the Bill Tyquin Oval at Davies Park was named after him.

The early 1970s saw the club in the doldrums of the league, as well as facing severe financial problems by the middle of the decade. However shrewd management and hard work saw an on-field revival, led by coach Wayne Bennett, resulting in the club making the 1979 Grand Final, although they were beaten 26-0 by Valleys. Bob McCarthy took over as coach in 1980, and guided the Magpies to another Grand Final loss, this time against underdogs Norths 17–15. But all would be forgotten in the euphoria of winning the 1981 title by defeating Redcliffe in the grand final with a spectacular try on the last play of the match.

The late 1970s and early 1980s saw Souths produce players such as Peter Jackson, Gary Belcher, and a young Brisbane Policeman who would go on to a glittering career as both a player and later a coach, Mal Meninga.

In the 1985 Brisbane Rugby League grand final, the Wayne Bennett-coached Souths side got a shock 10–8 win over Wally Lewis's Wynnum-Manly Seagulls, with John Elias being named man-of-the-match.

Between 1979 and 1985, Souths played in every BRL Grand Final at Lang Park other than 1983, almost dominating the league. The Magpies won two of the six Grand Finals they played during this period (1981 and 1985) while losing in 1979 (Valleys), 1980 (Norths), 1982 and 1984 to Wynnum Manly.

Queensland Cup
In 2002, it was widely speculated that Souths (again in deep financial trouble) would merge with the financially stricken Logan Scorpions, who had recently won the wooden spoon in what was their final season in the Queensland Cup. However, the merger did not eventuate with Souths acquiring the Logan club, renaming themselves Souths-Logan. In 2008 they won their first Queensland Cup premiership.

Crest and colours
The Magpie crest, now synonymous with Brisbane Southern Suburbs, as it is shared by both Souths rugby league and rugby union, was formally adopted in 1968, after having the Magpies nickname for decades. By the second half of 20th century, however, Souths played in a predominantly white strip with two black Vs – one thick and one thin. During the Carltons years, and up until the forced change to a black jersey, the club wore cherry and white – now synonymous with the Redcliffe Dolphins.

When Souths became Souths-Logan, they incorporated the blue and gold of Logan into their jersey design between the two Vs on club jersey. The lime green of the Canberra Raiders was added in 2004 to recognise their involvement with the club. Since cutting ties with the Raiders in 2014, the club has reverted to a predominately white and black colour scheme, with blue and gold as secondary colours.

Home ground
Their home ground is traditionally Davies Park in Brisbane's West End, but they played all their 2006 home games out of Brandon Park, the junior club, located in Acacia Ridge. The Magpies moved back to Davies Park again in 2007.

Traditionally, the Magpies home ground is Davies Park, although they did spend a time at Musgrave Park during World War II. Following the take-over of Logan Scorpions in 2003 the club split its home games between Davies Park and Logan's Meakin Park in Slacks Creek, although they had moved full-time to Davies Park by the end of the year. In 2004 all games were moved to Davies Park. In late 2005 the Magpies began moving matches to Brandon Park in Acacia Ridge, just opposite the Archerfield Airport, to be nearer Souths Juniors. In 2006 all games were played at Brandon Park. 2007 saw 6 of the 10 games back at Davies Park, with the remaining 4 at Brandon Park.

Players who have worn the jerseys of South Brisbane 1908 to 1913, West End 1913 to 1926, Carlton 1926 to 1933, Souths 1933 onwards and represented their state totalled 80 of whom 33 represented Australia. The first player was Herb Brackenreg in 1909 to represent Australia. Other Souths players to represent Australia were: H. Fewin 1920, Vic Anderson, 1909 John Grant, Jim Murphy, Wayne Bennett, Ray Higgs, Brad Tessmann, John Grice, Robert Nicholson 1909, Len Pegg, Alan Hornery, Frank Drake, Alan Gil, Reg Kay, Alan Thompson, Henry Holloway, Claud O'Donnell, Greg Veivers (Captain), (Greg's Father Jack represented Queensland), Mick Veivers, Neville Broadfoot, Dave Brown, Bill Tyquin (Captain), Tom Tyquin, Peter Jackson, Harold 'Mick' Crocker, Elton Rasmussen, Lew Platz, Gary Belcher, Jason Smith, Bob Lindner, Mal Meninga (Captain) William (Bill) Heidke 1908/9 Kangaroo tour.

International representatives
Australia

 * 🇦🇺   Bill Heidke
 * 🇦🇺   Harold Crocker
 * 🇦🇺   Peter Jackson
 * 🇦🇺   Frank Drake
 * 🇦🇺   Harry Fewin
 * 🇦🇺   John Grant
 * 🇦🇺   John Grice
 * 🇦🇺   Alan Hornery
 * 🇦🇺   Mal Meninga
 * 🇦🇺   Jim Murphy
 * 🇦🇺   Claud O'Donnell
 * 🇦🇺   Len Pegg
 * 🇦🇺   Brad Tessmann
 * 🇦🇺   Alan Thompson
 * 🇦🇺   Bill Tyquin
 * 🇦🇺   Tom Tyquin
 * 🇦🇺   Greg Veivers
 * 🇦🇺   Mick Veivers
 * 🇦🇺   Bob Lindner
 * 🇦🇺   Gary Belcher

Papua New Guinea

 * 🇵🇬   Joshua Damen

Wales

 * 🏴   Ollie Olds

Queensland (state of origin)

 * Bruce Astill
 * Mitch Brennan
 * Peter Jackson
 * Bob Lindner
 * Mal Meninga
 * Chris Phelan
 * Brad Tessmann
 * Gary Belcher
 * Norm Carr

Queensland (residents)
Kyle Lodge Brett Kelly

 * Bob Blair
 * Michael Davis
 * Peter Deaves
 * Phil Dennis
 * Craig Grauf
 * Chris Hastings
 * Tahi Reihana
 * Jace Van Dijk
 * Brent Vincent
 * Matthew Pitman
 * Lane Herbert

Team of the century
In 2008, the centennial year of rugby league in Australia, the Souths Logan Magpies named their 17-man team of the century.

Ladder Positions

 * 1996 – 3rd
 * 1997 – 11th
 * 1998 – 14th
 * 1999 – 12th (last)
 * 2000 – 9th
 * 2001 – 11th (last)
 * 2002 – 11th
 * 2003 – 11th
 * 2004 – 11th
 * 2005 – 10th
 * 2006 - 10th
 * 2007 – 10th
 * 2008 – 2nd (Grand Final winners)
 * 2009 – 1st
 * 2010 – 1st
 * 2011 – 3rd
 * 2012 – 12th (last)
 * 2013 – 9th
 * 2014 – 10th
 * 2015 – 12th
 * 2016 – 7th
 * 2017 – 5th
 * 2018 – 9th
 * 2019 – 10th
 * 2020 – COVID (Competition cancelled)
 * 2021 – 6th
 * 2022 – 14th (last)
 * 2023 – 2nd

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Ferenson

Tom Ferenson
 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Redwolf24 07:04, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Based upon the content of the article, this musician does not meet the criteria at WP:MUSIC and is not notable. Additionally, a google search reveals zero hits, further supporting the conclusion that notability has not been established and also making it difficult to verify the facts in the article. Tobycat 04:34, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Why, those are very good reasons to Delete--DNicholls 04:38, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Indeedy they are. The Roosevelt Symphony Orchestra only collects 4 hits, too. Delete. -Splash 04:59, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Conclusive nomination. Agentsoo 10:02, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn trombone player vanity. -- Etacar11   23:52, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn vanity. JamesBurns 08:56, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Talk:Famous Players (theatres)

Ownership
I cannot find where it says they are owned by Cineplex. According to their own site, they are owned by Viacom. -- Spinboy 04:35, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

They are owned by Cinplex Odeon, it just the deal is being worked out between the two companys. I know because I work for the theater chain, and because there are articles written about it. I will now remove the facultatly disclamer.

 * Wikipedia isn't origional research. When it's in the press and large numbers of people know about it, then put it in. And please don't remove the dispute tag until this is resolved, that's rude. --[[Image:Ottawa flag.png|20px]] Spinboy 16:13, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

This is in the press. Both The Globe and Mail and the CBC   have reported on it, so it is known by a large number of people. --gpgrainger

Why is the dispute tag is still there? If Spinboy wants to be ignorant and refuse to do his own research or don't believe in the news reports, so let him be. The links are already proved above. The Famous Players website is out of dated, fyi.

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User:Fridge21736

"hat hat cheese banana" quote of fridge21736(1999)

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Talk:Knights Errant

If they decide to delete, we can always go PBWiki. It's completely free.

I updated the listing somewhat: adding some links and cleaning up some grammar. Also, if the deletists remove it, we should add an entry for de la Maza, Michael. Since this post is mostly biographical about him anyway, we could make that the focus but still mention the Knights. Blue Devil

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Bob Martin

Bob Martin may refer to:

People

 * Bob Martin (Australian politician) (born 1945), Member of the New South Wales Legislative Assembly
 * Bob Martin (American football) (born 1953), American football player
 * Bob Martin (basketball) (born 1969), American basketball player
 * Bob Martin (curler), (born c. 1953), English curler
 * Bob Martin (golfer) (1848–1917), British golfer
 * Bob Martin (boxer) (1897–1978), American boxer and soldier
 * Bob Martin (singer-songwriter) (born 1942), U.S.-American
 * Stephen Donaldson (activist) (1946–1996), aka Bob Martin or Donny the Punk
 * Bob Martin (singer) (1922–1998), Austrian participant in the 1957 Eurovision Song Contest
 * Bob Martin (comedian) (born 1962), star and co-writer of the Broadway musical, The Drowsy Chaperone
 * Robert "Bob" Martin (1948–2020), American magazine editor and screenwriter
 * Bob Martin (rower) (1925–2012), American Olympic rower
 * Robert C. Martin, American software author and consultant, known as Uncle Bob

Other

 * Bob Martin (TV series), a British situation comedy
 * Bob Martin Petcare, British pet healthcare company

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Panwar dynasty

Panwar dynasty may refer to the dynasties in India related to Panwar tribe:
 * Paramara dynasty in Malwa, Ujjain, Dhar (9th century−1305)
 * Panwar dynasty of Garhwal Kingdom (822−1949)
 * Panwar Kingdom, or Panwar dynasty (1785–1800) in Chhatarpur District, Madhya Pradesh

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Chris Masters (writer)

Christopher "Chris" Wayne Masters PSM (born 4 December 1948 in Grafton, New South Wales ) is a multiple Walkley Award–winning and Logie Award–winning Australian journalist and author.

Life
Chris Masters was born in Grafton, New South Wales. He is the fourth son of Charles Masters and the journalist and author Olga Masters and the brother of rugby league coach and journalist Roy Masters, filmmaker Quentin Masters, radio broadcaster Ian Masters and media producers Sue Masters and Deb Masters.

Masters was educated at Macquarie Boys High School, Parramatta, completing his Leaving Certificate in 1965. He joined the Australian Broadcasting Corporation the following year.

He commenced working on ABC television's flagship public affairs program Four Corners in 1983 and has since become the program's longest serving reporter. His first program was the landmark "Big League", a 1983 investigation of judicial corruption, which helped bring about the Street Royal Commission.

He is a Gold Walkley Award winner, for his 1985 Four Corners report "French Connections" about the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior. Another Four Corners report by Masters, "The Moonlight State" from 1987, led to the Fitzgerald Inquiry into corruption in Queensland.

Degrees and honours
In 2004, he was appointed Adjunct Professor in Journalism with the School of Applied Communication at RMIT University and in 2006, RMIT awarded Masters an honorary doctorate in Communications.

Masters was awarded the Public Service Medal on 14 June 1999 and the Centenary Medal on 1 January 2001 for "service to Australian society in journalism".

He is on the national board of directors of the children's cancer charity RedKite.

Jonestown won the 2007 Queensland Premier's Literary Awards Literary Work Advancing Public Debate – the Harry Williams Award. It also won the 2007 Walkley Book Award for the best non-fiction book.

No Front Line: Australia's Special Forces At War in Afghanistan was shortlisted for the 2018 Walkley Book Award.

Writing
Masters has written four books. His first Inside Story, published in 1992, told of the stories behind some of his Four Corners programs. His second, Not for Publication, published in 2002, again dealt with his television work. His third book was called Jonestown and finally a book about the Australian soldier called Uncommon Soldier. Masters' work also played a key role in bringing down Ben Roberts-Smith.

Jonestown: The Power and the Myth of Alan Jones
In 2002, Masters profiled radio personality Alan Jones for an episode of Four Corners, and then went on to write a biography titled Jonestown: The Power and the Myth of Alan Jones. On 29 June 2006, ABC Enterprises decided to cancel publication of Masters' manuscript; ABC Enterprises director Robyn Watts stated that publication was being withdrawn because it would "almost certainly result in commercial loss, which would be irresponsible". This was widely believed to be a veiled reference to the fact that Jones's lawyers had threatened an expensive defamation lawsuit if the book reached publication. ABC program Media Watch reported that the decision to cancel publication had been made not by ABC Enterprises but by the ABC Board. Many ABC personalities have criticised the Board's decision, and indeed wrote a petition against it, with signatories including Richard Glover and Phillip Adams.

Mike Carlton, a Sydney radio broadcaster and rival to Jones, suggested on 2UE during his show of 5 July 2006 that the book might detail homosexual encounters on Jones's part, and Jones's lawyers had told the ABC that Masters' materials were "replete with false and inappropriate sexual innuendo". Indeed, in Jonestown, Masters advances the theory that Jones's attempt to deny his sexuality is a defining feature of his personality, and that it provides an explanation for many aspects of his behaviour, including, for example, his interest in mentoring young male athletes. His explanation of much about Jones by reference to his sexuality left Masters open to charges of homophobia, which friendly commentators (in an ironic effort to defend Jones's reputation) have exploited.

The ABC's refusal to publish the book did not delay it for long; Masters had little difficulty in finding publishers willing to take it on, and Allen & Unwin released it in October 2006. Lengthy excerpts were also published in The Sydney Morning Herald.

Ben Roberts-Smith investigation
With investigative help from Nick McKenzie and sustained support by Nine Network, Masters spent more than seven years investigating and reporting on Victoria Cross winner Ben Roberts-Smith. Robert-Smith filed defamation suits against The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The Canberra Times after they reported he had murdered Afghans during multiple deployments to the country from 2006 to 2012. Roberts-Smith lost the case, with evidence clearly corroborating the work done by Masters and McKenzie.

In 2023, Masters published his full account of Robert-Smith's story in his book Flawed Hero. It was shortlisted for the 2024 Victorian Premier's Prize for Nonfiction.

Books

 * Inside Story (1992)
 * Not for Publication (2002)
 * Jonestown: The Power and the Myth of Alan Jones (2006)
 * Uncommon Soldier: Brave, Compassionate and Tough, the Making of Australia's Modern Diggers (2013)
 * No Front Line: Australia's Special Forces at War in Afghanistan (2017)
 * Flawed Hero: Truth, lies and war crimes (2023)
 * Flawed Hero: Truth, lies and war crimes (2023)

Critical studies and reviews of Masters' work

 * No front line

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United States Army Accessions Command

The U.S. Army Accessions Command (USAAC) (2002–2011) was established by general order on 15 February 2002 and activated at Fort Monroe, VA. It was a subordinate command of TRADOC charged with providing integrated command and control of the recruiting and initial military training for the Army's officer, warrant officer, and enlisted forces. Designed to meet the human resources needs of the Army from initial contact with recruiters to first unit of assignment, the command's goal was to transform volunteers into soldiers and leaders for the Army. As of 2011, the U.S. Army Accessions Command was de-activated as part of Defense and Army efficiency reviews. The decision was a result of a comprehensive study to develop appropriate options for the alignment of commands that fulfill human resource functions.

In accordance with the Secretary of the Army's Human Resource Organizational Reform Initiative, the US Army Accessions Command cased its colors on 18 January 2012, and the command ceased functions as the higher headquarters for US Army Cadet Command, US Army Recruiting Command, and the Accessions Support Brigade and as the Army's primary executor of Accessions-based marketing, advertising, research, and coordination. In order to manage the completion of all discontinuance tasks by 30 September 2012, USAAC was re-designated the USAAC Discontinuance Task Force, under the command of Major General Jefforey A. Smith.

The Command was established by Headquarters, Department of the Army General Orders Number 1 as a subordinate command of the United States Army Training and Doctrine Command. Although elements were located at Fort Knox, some headquarters subunits were also located at Fort Monroe. The U.S. Army Recruiting Command is the principal command of the U.S. Army Accessions Command, and is co-located. Its other subunits are the Strategic Outreach Directorate and the Accessions Support Brigade.

The Accessions Support Brigade is the public face of the Command, and is perhaps the most unusual of the Army's units, which includes Mission Support Battalion's mobile recruiting support sections mounted on colourful 18-wheeler trucks, the Army Parachute Team (about a company), "The Golden Knights", and the Special Operations Recruiting Company (SORC), responsible for recruiting all individuals serving with Army special operations that also performs demonstrations by its United States Army Marksmanship Unit.

The US Army Accessions Command also controlled the Army Sports Program, and other elements involved with public relations and increasing the public's favorable awareness of the US Army.

The decision to de-activate the command was announced on 20 April 2011. The move is said to need 12–18 months for completion and is expected to reduce costs while realigning necessary functions under other command structures.

Major subordinate organizations

 * United States Army Recruiting Command (USAREC)
 * Recruiting and Retention School (RSS)
 * U.S. Army Cadet Command
 * Officer Candidate School (OCS)
 * U.S. Army Warrant Officer Career College (WOCC)
 * Drill Sergeant School (DSS)
 * U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit (AMU)
 * U.S. Army Parachute Team (Golden Knights)

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Keasbey, New Jersey

Keasbey (pronounced "KAYS-bee" ) is a census-designated place (CDP) and unincorporated community located within Woodbridge Township, in Middlesex County, in the U.S. state of New Jersey. It is located in the western outskirts of adjacent Perth Amboy. As of the 2020 census, the CDP's population was 3,027. Many Hispanic / Latino families have relocated from Perth Amboy to Keasbey.

Keasbey was originally known as Florida Grove due to its picnic areas and beaches on the Raritan River.

The community is named after the Keasbey family, whose home in Morristown is now Macculloch Hall, a museum. One of the brick manufacturers established in Keasbey was owned by the Keasbey family.

Demographics
As of the 2020 United States census, the area had a population of 3,027.

Education
Residents are zoned to the Woodbridge Township School District.
 * Grade K-5: Lafayette School 25
 * Grade 6-8: Fords Middle School
 * Grade 9-12: Depending on location. J.F.K. Memorial High School or Woodbridge High School.

In media
The third wave ska band Catch 22 referenced Keasbey in the title of their album Keasbey Nights in 1998. The album was later re-recorded by Streetlight Manifesto in 2006.

Companies
Major employers include:
 * FedEx Ground, a division of FedEx, operates a regional hub
 * Wakefern, ShopRite's owner and distributor, has its corporate headquarters in Keasbey

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CS1 error on List of public signage typefaces
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