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Talk:Virtual globe

Earthsim
I have today reinstated Earthsim to the article as I believe this system does meet the definition of a virtual globe exactly as defined by Willem. Earthsim is fully 3D and allows the user to freely move around the virtual environment (rotation, zoom and panning). Simon531
 * In that sense the definition by Willem is actually lacking and my previous version was indeed better, even though it was more technical. Earthsim does not support adjustment of altitude, pitch, and yaw, or does it? Zoom as such is not an adjustment of altitude, zoom is an adjustment of the field of view to a more narrow or more wide field of view which gives the perception of lower or higher altitude. 64North 04:25, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, in reply to my own reply, Google Earth doesn't support adjustments in yaw either. So I suppose we will have to limit it to adjustments in altitude and pitch.  64North 04:28, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Earthsim actually support changes in altitude, pitch and yaw. The camera may, within sensible bounds, be positioned at any arbitrary location in space and orientated to point to any other arbitrary location. Simon531
 * Thanks for clearing that up Simon, I downloaded the actual app myself and had a look as well. Sorry for not having done so in the first place before I previously removed Earthsim. 64North 18:10, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Definition of a Virtual Globe
Willem was so kind as to update the definition of a virtual globe. Please use this entry to discuss the definition and its application to sites that should or should not be included in the Virtual Globe Wikipedia entry. I have today removed a flash based earth viewer as well as EarthSim from the article as I feel that those are not virtual globes as currently defined. I do beleive the current definition is accurate and reasonable. Perhaps FlashEarth and EarthSim and others like it deserve their own category/article, as there are certainly a number of those kind of applications around. However, if we can agree that in order to qualify as a virtual globe, the user needs to be able to freely move around the virtual environment, then anything other then that should not be included in the article. 64North 18:58, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Willem's definition might be an improvement over previous definitions but at the very least it needs referencing to show that this definition is generally agreed upon. My own opinion is that a virtual globe encompasses a far wider range of globes than the current definition allows, including some of the globes that have been removed. Unless a definition is widely agreed upon - and agreed by parties other than the editiors of this page then a more inclusive approach is surely preferable to the user. And unless there is an industry or publicly recognised definition of a virtual globe, then it brings the npov of the definition into question. Editors of this page should be wary of making the definition themselves rather than reporting an existing, de-facto, publicly or industry recognised definition. I agree that 2D representations cannot count because they are maps rather than globes - but from the most simple viewpoint, any 3D representation of a globe in a virtual space qualifies as a virtual globe regardless of its technological features. Bear in mind that this page should not cover only virtual reality globes or virtual planets - each of which are perhaps subcategories of virtual globes. With the current narrow definition and the various sections of the page such as types the definition is no longer coherent with the content. It might also be worth noting that the external links to pages about virtual globes contain content which 64North has removed because it no longer fits the new definition. Although a third party web page is no sign of a npov, it does at least show that some of the removed content is considered by others as valid. My proposition is that some of the removed references are valid and that the definition should be re-written to be broad and inclusive with virtual planets given a special consideration and their own section as a special case of virtual globes. Without references or consensus, it is fair to say that there appear to be a number of differing opinions as to what constitutes a virtual globe. My suggestion is that a broad definition would be more useful to the user with emphasis on the page given to classification rather than inclusion or exclusion according to features. magnato 29 November 2006

World Wind vs. Google Earth
The features section - World Wind can do many of those items, and more, with addons/plugins. I'm not sure what GE can do but I know it has the KML addon ability.

Therefore, should it be mentioned that World Wind can do such things with addons? I did this for the GPS section, and linked to the addon page, but I'm not sure if it should stay.

TheBeansprout 13:28, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

The History? Snow Crash what?

 * The use of virtual globe software was widely popularized by (and may have been first described in) Neal Stephenson's famous science-fiction novel Snow Crash. In the metaverse in Snow Crash there is a piece of software called Earth (just like Google's), made by the Central Intelligence Corporation. The CIC uses their virtual globe as a user interface for keeping track of all their geospatial data, including maps, architectural plans, weather data, and data from real-time satellite surveillance.

Come on, did the movie Jurassic Park popularized the Connection Machines? Other than some geeks, how many people have ever read or heard of Snow Crash? Could such a small, small, small, itsy-bitsy thing affect the design of software?

The above claim is simply ridiculous. – Toytoy 03:39, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

 * There is an excellent section in The Dreams Our Stuff Is Made Of where Thomas Disch catalogs the massive impact of Snow Crash on science fiction and popular culture in general. --Coolcaesar 06:22, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Also I'll dig up some cites when I have the time but I'm so damned busy this week. --Coolcaesar 06:27, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Itsy-bitsy things my affect the development of nice software gear... There is a company called blaxxun, http://www.blaxxun.com (remember "the black sun"). They got their idea from the book Snow Crash. They are specialized in the field of virtual environments and multi-user platforms. --Rudgen 09:48, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Comparisons: Google Earth Updates
Google Earth updated its satellite images. Bora Bora is now available in very high resolution. This section and the comparison images should be updated.

--Peace01234 01:35, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Microsoft's Virtual Earth as a Virtual Globe?
This article should tell why Microsoft is not considered as an Online virtual globe. It's strange that MS Virtual Earth is mentioned several times in this virtual globe article, but never said to be or not a virtual globe. Precisions would be welcomed to reduce the confusion.

--Lordsatri 21:28, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I completely agree. Why is Microsoft Virtual Earth considered a virtual globe? To be honest, Microsoft MapPoint is more like Microsofts version of a virtual globe. Jarl (talk) 09:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * huh? And why is apple considered a fruit? Virtual Earth 3D is a virtual globe, it fits into the definition from the article without problems. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.254.131.24 (talk) 17:39, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

this article needs help
I went ahead and removed all 2D references. I also added a what I perceive to be a more precise definition of a virtual globe. Just because someone is able to overlay an image over what looks like a rotating globe in some Java application doesn't make it a virtual globe. In the definition I added I suggest that in order to qualify as virtual globe the user must be able to freely move about the 3D environment.

Also, I would like to move away from a GE vs WW vs the rest, and simply state the capabilities and uses of virtual globes (without that it turns into advertising for specific solutions.

Time is of course precious, and I won't have any to work on any major edits till well into September. --64North 16:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * There are still some GMaps articles with Category:Virtual Globe. --83.24.222.128 12:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. Personally I won't be editing any other articles on WP, I barely have time for this one. ;) But I do want to expand on this one because there is a whole lot more that can be said and is useful info at the same time.  Virtual globes are the future for a great many different uses.  Thanks to Google Earth they have essentially become mainstream, and now users are less intimidated to check out some other VG products that are perhaps more feature-rich than GE. 64North 17:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Chart too big
The chart used to illustrate the differences between the 3 is too large and goes past the edge of the screen. When I resized it to 100% though (didn't save the change, just previewed it), it made everything look all squeezed together though. Perhaps it should be split into another chart row? (Cardsplayer4life 08:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC))

 * Now it's horizontal, it would look much better if it was vertical. And there is no need in adding detailed minor features (there were two similar modes in the table - Telescope/Sky view and local sky view, do we really need them both? also first table got 'High Resolution location fotos', whereas this info is in the second table too...). Keep the table as simple as possible, with only major and most used functions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.24.188.169 (talk) 19:43, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Poor man's virtual globe
Back in the days of Win3.1 to Win95, there was a quick and handy little virtual 3D globe called "On Top of the World" (author Adrian Hlynka). I believe the last version was 2.00f (1996) and was just over 2 MB zipped.

I'm wondering if anyone knows where it can still be found (for those of us with pre-2000 PCs) It was cartoonish, but it had info on cities, rivers, and other geographic features, as well as real-time night shading, aerial and flight angles, political vs physical texturing, and a small fact book. Thanks for any info --192.75.95.127 10:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC) (rAS).

Let's say http://ulozto.cz/xyy7ryu4/virtual-globe-ontopful-zip. It surely works under Windows XP (in compatibility mode for Windows95). Great for orientation where is which city/country/island/mountain/airport etc., for distance measurements over globe, daylight tracking, timezone check etc. 193.85.229.12 (talk) 12:43, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

 * Marble (KDE) is available for any of the mayor platforms, although it's made for KDE (GNU/Linux). But you can find a windows download here. I don't know which are it's requirements. JunCTionS 15:14, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

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Earth3D
I'm amazed that Earth3D doesn't yet exist in Wikipedia. And I guess it should be part of this article. I'll try to add it, I believe it's relevant (it's part of many linux repositories, and it seems to be the only open source virtual globe to have satellite imagery)JunCTionS 15:21, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Biased Comparison
The Comparison section reminded me of a wonderful, wonderful, [Onion article|http://www.theonion.com/content/infograph/os_x_snow_leopard_vs_windows], where Mac's 'Snow Lepard' was compared to windows 7. Especially, Pre-installed image of a snow leopard? Snow leopard: Yes, Windows 7: No'.'''

Let me be more clear. I've noticed that all of the options are a 'yes' for Google Earth, with the exception of 3 'no's and a 3 'some's. With the other globes, there's more of a balance of 'yes' and 'no'. This table is heavily biased towards Google Earth, and that should be fixed -either by removing some of options that are only on google Earth, adding some of the other globe's info- or just getting rid of the table all together. bob bobato (talk) 15:30, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Uniform linking in list of online virtual globes
It frustrates me that the the wikilink for Software MacKiev's 3D Weather Globe & Atlas links to a wikipage that describes the company and not for the software. I suggest that a wikipage page for this software is created and this article wikilinks to that wikipage. Jarl (talk) 09:01, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

WorldWind Java
This article (and indeed, the worldwind article itself) doesn't really do much in the way of take into account WorldWind Java which has a different feature set from the regular WorldWind as I understand it. 193.63.128.50 (talk) 14:35, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

OSSIM Planet
Is there any reason that ossimPlanet is not included? --Goatbar (talk) 21:53, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

NASA World Wind Flight Sim
The comparison table says NASA World Wind has no flight sim but I've found this: http://www.disti.com/Products/demonstrations/java.html I don't know how the table code works but maybe someone could change it to a 'yes'... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.116.163.97 (talk) 06:31, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

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Adding CesiumJS
Hello, everyone

I'd like to ask about CesiumJS. People added CesiumJS into the list several times but they have been reverted by the reason of non-notability.

I think CesiumJS is one of the well-known open source software to render the virtual globe. It has been developed actively about 10 years and there are various software created ba CesiumJS. Because of that, I think it is enough famous to be listed. I'd like to know if it is appropriate for the list.

some references:

 * CesiumGS/cesium: An open-source JavaScript library for world-class 3D globes and maps - https://github.com/CesiumGS/cesium
 * CoderStats(CesiumGS) - Summary Statistics, Rankings and Repositories - https://coderstats.net/github/#CesiumGS
 * TerriaJS - https://terria.io/
 * Visualizing Large Scale 3D Terrain with Open Source Tools - HERE Developer - https://developer.here.com/blog/visualizing-large-scale-terrain-with-open-source-tool-tin-terrain

Thank you. shuuji3 (talk) 15:04, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Club Tiki

My Experience of Club Tiki
I stumbled across Club Tiki last summer as part of a trip to the US with a couple of friends. We went to check out the casino in the hotel, but the minimum bet on the poker tables turned out to be pretty high, so we were just wandering around the ground floor of the place exploring.

As we walked around I noticed a group of about 10 girls hanging around in the lobby area. As a Brit in in a place barely known outside Mississippi, this was too good an opportunity to miss! We'd heard there was a party going on somewhere in the hotel, so I walked over to the girls and said "Excuse me. Do you know where the party is?" in my best English accent.

Their response was instantaneous.

They all turned to see where the strange sound was coming from. One took the lead: "Oh my God" she said in a southern drawl, "Can you say that again please?"

I obliged, to more screaming/yelping.

Anyway, I digress. My friends and I subsequently found Club Tiki with the girls' helpful directions, and enjoyed it thoroughly. Suffice to say the Beau Rivage is a fantastic venue (equivalent or better to a 5* hotel in the UK), entry to the party is free (or it was last year) and there is a free limousine service to/from the hotel (before tipping the driver of course).

The semi-naked girls dancing on small podiums in the swimming pool are a nice touch too.

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Enterprise asset management

Enterprise asset management (EAM) involves the management of the maintenance of physical assets of an organization throughout each asset's lifecycle. EAM is used to plan, optimize, execute, and track the needed maintenance activities with the associated priorities, skills, materials, tools, and information. This covers the design, construction, commissioning, operations, maintenance and decommissioning or replacement of plant, equipment and facilities.

"Enterprise" refers to the scope of the assets in an Enterprise across departments, locations, facilities and, potentially, supporting business functions. Various assets are managed by the modern enterprises at present. The assets may be fixed assets like buildings, plants, machineries or moving assets like vehicles, ships, moving equipments etc. The lifecycle management of the high value physical assets require regressive planning and execution of the work.

History
EAM arose as an extension of the computerized maintenance management system (CMMS) which is usually defined as a system for the computerisation of the maintenance of physical assets.

Enterprise asset management software
Enterprise asset management software is a computer software that handles every aspect of running a public works or asset-intensive organization. Enterprise asset management (EAM) software applications include features such as asset life-cycle management, preventive maintenance scheduling, warranty management, integrated mobile wireless handheld options and portal-based software interface. Rapid development and availability of mobile devices also affected EAM software which now often supports mobile enterprise asset management.

EAM Solution Applications in Power Generation
EAM solution applications, are used in power generation, including nuclear power plants. EAM solutions are used in the industries for managing asset portfolios and operational efficiency. They are recognized for their role in enhancing asset utilization and reducing costs, with a focus on compliance with regulatory guidelines, and meeting consumer/clients’ needs.

Features and applications for solutions include, but are not limited to:
 * Standardization of Work Processes: EAM solution applications are designed to streamline work processes in power generation operations. This includes improving worker productivity and asset return on investment by aiming to increase asset availability, reduce planned outage time, and enhance reliability.
 * Asset Performance Management (APM): This component of EAM solution applications offer software and services for optimizing asset performance and operational & maintenance efficiency. Features such as these include proprietary analytics and work process automation (e.g., Work Orders, Procurement Processes, Material Requestes, etc.).
 * Application in Power Generation: EAM solutions are often tailored for use in power generation and other industries with complex, mission-critical environments. The focus is on addressing challenges where operational failure can lead to significant consequences.
 * Asset Management in Nuclear Power: Asset management is a key component in nuclear power plants, particularly in competitive electricity markets. Asset Suite EAM aims to support decision-making processes by balancing financial performance, operational performance, and risk. These applications are essential for identifying and tracking changes to plant-specific controlled equipment and documentation.
 * Industry Usage: The software is noted for its application in the utility, transmission, and fossil or nuclear power industry. It is reportedly used by a significant portion of global nuclear fleets.
 * Modules for Nuclear Plants: EAM solution applications offer modules such as Procurement Engineering, Inventory Management, Total Exposure, Material Request and Receipt, Engineering Changes, and Work Orders which are geared towards the needs of nuclear plants.
 * Standardizing: Currently, there is a large movement to isolate and distribute a singular EAM solution for managing industrial assets across the nuclear power generation industry for commercial electricity production (i.e., Asset Suite/Passport) . This deployment is aimed at standardizing practices across multiple nuclear power plants. Although, not every plant utilizes the same software. As plants and corporations continue to expand and modernize, industries are moving from Asset Suite/Passport to Maximo EAM, which is another EAM solution application currently tailored for utility, transmission, and the nuclear industry.

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Antoine Alphonse Chassepot

Antoine Alphonse Chassepot (1833–1905) was a French inventor and gunsmith. Born in 1833 in the town of Mutzig in Alsace, he is best known for inventing the breech-loading, center-fire needle gun rifle named after him: the Chassepot. Officially known as the Fusil modèle 1866, the rifle was adopted by the French army in 1866, for which Chassepot received the Cross of the Légion d'honneur and a gratuity of 30,000 francs.

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Talk:Srirasmi Suwadee

Name
"Srirasm" or "Srirasmi" -- I've seen both forms in credible sources so I wonder if anyone can explain the reason for this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:6F43:B200:4093:7F1:E114:5ED3 (talk) 02:05, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Moving
Please consult Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Thailand-related articles) 217.140.193.123 16:26, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

proposing compromise solution. Antares911 13:38, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Move to Princess Srirasmi of Thailand? (the vote was started 22 July 2005 and ended by Violetriga 23 July 2005, around 25 hours after the start of the vote)

 * support User:Arrigo and later User:Ahoerstemeier moved the original name of the article without posting a discussion on it first. such a move is unwarranted under Wikpedia rules. on top of that, there are no clear rules regarding the naming of Thai royals. therefore propose to restore the original name until consensus is found. Antares911 13:29, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

 * 1) Oppose proposed move. Princely title unnecessary for any encyclopedic purpose (such as disambiguation). Spirit of naming conventions do not require princely title to be used in heading here. Simplicity in headings is desirable. (If a reader already knows so much about Srirasmi that the reader knows she is a princess, why the reader even comes here? Explanations what someone/something IS belongs to the text of the article, not to the heading.) Arrigo 20:46, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Oppose - keep it at the simple location "Srirasmi". "of Thailand" is not necessary, such country-disambiguation is only necessary for the western royals where it have several with the same name, and it's also not part of any official name/title. And the royal title "Princess" isn't included neither in EB nor encarta, and also not included in WP articles normally, so why should the Thai royals be dealt with otherwise. But I agree with Mark - instead of moving around the pages again and again (the editing history of some has more moves than edits!) it'd make sense to get a consistant policy, yet the discussion at the Manual of Style for Thailand articles is just the same points as the one spread over the various single royals talk pages. BTW: This vote also applies to the other Thai royal move-arounds. andy 11:03, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

(Not a vote)Please don't vote on moving individual articles. We need a consistent policy. Mark1 04:17, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

This wasn't actually listed at WP:RM but I think the monarchical title naming conventions of Naming conventions (names and titles) are pretty clear. I hope that "Srirasmi of Thailand" can be an acceptable compromise between the two choices. violet/riga (t) 14:27, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

I think the formulation "Srirasmi of Thailand" is one of the worst choices for this. Arrigo 08:48, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

 * That's your opinion and that's fair enough. Now please open discussions about policy rather than individual articles. violet/riga (t) 18:46, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

I want to know more about her bakground, can anyone help?????

Princess Srirasmi was born commoner in wealthy family. HM King Bhumibol Adulyadej allowed HRH Crown Prince Maha VajiraLongkorn to marry her (this mean she is accepted as royal daughter-in-law). After gave birth of Prince Tipangkorn Rassamichoti, she was given a royalty to be HRH Princess Srirasmi, the princess consort of HRH Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn.

 * What was her surname, as commoner. I presume it was not Mahidol and it was not Ayuddhia. Arrigo 10:38, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

In the name of Thai I don't like to call my royalty without title, ex: Srirasmi of Thailand, it disrespect my monach. In the other hand, because Princess Srirsasmi was born commoner her name is very common. There are so many girl name Srirasmi, how we know which Srirasmi if don't add Princess?.--Pudtipong Nawasornyuttana 02:56, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

 * When we need to disambiguate members of royal families, we do so with "of Thailand/Spain" etc. The current title is correct. Mark1 03:10, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

As I am Thai, I am not offended by seeing Srirasmi without royal title, but only in English academic writings. Although the name 'Srirasmi' is different to other royal names such as Bhumibol by the reason Pudtipong has mentioned, I don't see the necessasity of using Princess Srirasmi to identify her from other Srirasmis in the title. And in the future, if there are other Srirasmis in wikipedia, disambiguation page can be used. CW32 16:37, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

If Srirasmi really can be the first name of several Wikipedia-notable persons and at least one other of those persons uses it as her main name, and not some longer and thus disambiguate name, then Srirasmi's own current name has a reference to her husband by his title, crown prince of Thailand, whereby we westerners probably would regard Srirasmi as recognized Crown Princess consort. Thus, in last resort, she would then be here Srirasmi, Crown Princess of Thailand. 217.140.193.123 22:34, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Not much people in Thailand know about her family, even I'm a Thai. Her Family is very common and not wealthy, what I know is her family is a middle class. The king give her royal status because it effect to her child. Prince Dipangkorn Rasmijoti, Her son can not bear the title as Prince(style as HRH) if his mother is a commoner. But he is second in line of succession, so the king raise his mother to royal status. This is never happened in Thai History that the wife of crown prince raise to -- I removed "Mom" from her born name ,because "Mom" is the common title for kings or princes 's wife who don't have a royal title/name yet.She used to named "Mom Srirasmi Mahidol na Ayudhaya" before she got a royal name/title from the king.But her original surname is not know by most people... included me. 203.172.255.150 -- Please somebody remove her title as "Crown Princess" from the link in the right panel of "Thai Royal Family". Her marriage with the Crown Prince doesn't mean she is elevated to "Crown Princess" automatically. Her title should remain "HRH Princess Srisasmi, the Royal Consort of the Crown Prince, or "the Crown Prince Consort". This is not the same case as the Queen title which can refer both to the female ruler and the consort of the king. Crown Princess should only be applied to heiress apparent in countries where both male and female can be successor to the throne, such as England, Sweden, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by U4268722 (talk • contribs) 15:03, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Background before she met/married Crown Prince
Have any solid details of her background before she met/married Prince Vajiralongkorn been made public? I haven't heard anything, except for rumors. I'm not really sure what the secrecy is about - King Bhumibol's mother was a commoner. Patiwat 03:35, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Most of us know her real back ground but we cant say it or make it public
 * Done. Turns out there wasn't that much secrecy about things - just that there isn't that much information to go around.  Her original surname is nowhere to be found. Also not sure exactly what she graduated with at Bangkok Accounting College: high school diploma, vocational degree (Por Wor Chor), or associate degree (Por Wor Sor). Patiwat 04:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the name Srirasmi is not at all common. She might not have been born with that name. Most likely, she was uniquely re-named to fit the royal title. Simply making it different from ordinary people. However, this is only the probability. By the way, those photos are dangerous materials. Rachmaninoff

Two problems here:
 * 1) I've removed an unsourced statement by Maneejan. Have decided to revert to the last edit by 147.253.12.62.
 * 2) I'm not sure what to do with the rest of the Controversy section. The fact is sourced to Asia Sentinal, but I don't think it is appropriate under WP:BLP. Experienced editors please help.--Naphat 08:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Topless vs. breastfeeding
Why is the topless wikileak bit allowed when my panoramic shots that include a poster of her son ten times life-size on government hospitals and clinics promoting mother's milk as #1 keep getting deleted as a copy-rite vio? --Pawyilee (talk) 16:50, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Moving
According to the Office of His Majesty's Principal Private Secretary, Her name and royal title are HRH Princess Srirasm, Royal Consort to HRH Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn, respectively (Ref. http://www.ohm.go.th/th/monarch/signature ). — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScorpianPK (talk • contribs) 17:03, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Terrible Propaganda
We should not let the household burea of the palace take control of this webpage. This is a terrible article from an ultra royalist fan boy.

The latest acts of divorce and stripping his royal surname aren't even mentioned yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.245.25.49 (talk • contribs)

Not thanphuying
ไม่ใช้ ‘ท่านผู้หญิง’ นามใหม่ น.ส.ศรีรัศมิ์ สุวะดี Thairath article features an image of her newly issued national identity card: ใหม่ที่สำนักงานเขตดุสิต ระบุรายละเอียดในบัตร ชื่อตัวและชื่อสกุล ดังนี้
 * น.ส.ศรีรัศมิ์ สุวะดี
 * เกิดวันที่ 9 ธ.ค.2514
 * ศาสนาพุทธ
 * ที่อยู่ 149 หมู่ที่ 6 ต.วัดเพลง อ.วัดเพลง จ.ราชบุรี
 * วันออกบัตร 11 ธ.ค.2557
 * วันบัตรหมดอายุ วันที่ 8 ธ.ค.2566

มีนายกฤษฎา บุญราช เป็นเจ้าพนักงานออกบัตร --Pawyilee (talk) 05:36, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

 * The Thanphuying title is tied to being a member of certain rank of the Order of Chulachomklao. I wouldn't recommend using such sensational news coverage as a source. For perspective, this article in Naew Na has sharply criticised the media's unprofessional coverage of the event, pointing out that many are reporting on rumour and speculation rather than facts and disregarding decency and personal privacy. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:43, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm told that ID cards there are reflective of titles, and since there's no indication he's lost her membership in any Order, she would by right have the title. --Varavour (talk) 01:37, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

New name?
According to this Turkish Weekly article, she will change her name to Than Phu Ying Busaba Suwadee. I see Google telling me that this English-language Bangkok Post article previously said the same thing. Her name was piped to "Busaba Suwadee" on the Main Page in the In the News section, but I just unpiped it to Srirasmi Suwadee. So far as I can determine from a history search the new name has never been in this article. Is there good sourcing justifying adding it, in which case it should perhaps be returned to the Main Page blurb? Or was this an inaccurate report? Yngvadottir (talk) 19:32, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Name and title
It seems weird that Srirasmi's name is spelled "Srirasmi", but her official title is "Princess Srirasm". Typo, or alternative spellings? Banedon (talk) 08:22, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thai alphabet ศรีรัศมิ์ has the final consonant /m/ and vowel /i/ marked with the symbol –์ 	called ทัณฑฆาต (thanthakhat) or  การันต์	 (karan) marking it as silent. Initial syllable Sri has a silent /r/ and so is pronounced Si. The final /s/ of middle syllable /ras/ is always pronounced /t/ while initial /r/ is pronounced /l/ or /r/ according to ones dialect. The Royal Thai General System of Transcription renders the name as Sirat, the way it is pronounced in Central Thai. Normal Thai practice is to address a person with an honorific or classifier before the given name;  or for those on familiar terms with the subject, before the person's nickname. As for her title, numerous news accounts report is that of an unmarried woman who is a commoner. --Pawyilee (talk) 04:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It just seems weird. If the Srirasm in "Princess Srirasm" refers to Srirasmi, then the two should be standardized, especially since they're in the same article. So either spell the name as "Srirasmi" and "Princess Srirasmi", or "Srirasm" and "Princess Srirasm". I don't speak Thai, so I don't know which is preferred or if the change should even be made. Banedon (talk) 07:36, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Bad Picture
The picture of Srirasmi is very bad, her eyes are closed and I think it should be replaced with something newer and better. Yanjipy (talk) 16:50, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

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Birthplace of Vlad III the Impaler (in Romanian Vlad Țepeș), Sighișoara hosts, every year, a medieval festival where arts and crafts blend with rock music and stage plays. The city marks the upper boundary of the Land of Sachsen. Like its bigger brothers, Sibiu (Hermannstadt) and Braşov (Kronstadt), Sighișoara exhibits Medieval German architectural and cultural heritage that was preserved even during the Communist period.

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International Ice Patrol

The International Ice Patrol is an organization with the purpose of monitoring the presence of icebergs in the Atlantic and Arctic oceans and reporting their movements for safety purposes. It is operated by United States Coast Guard but is funded by the 13 nations interested in trans-Atlantic navigation. As of 2011 the governments contributing to the International Ice Patrol include Belgium, Canada (see Canadian Ice Service), Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, Norway, Panama, Poland, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and the United States.

The organization was established in 1914 in response to the sinking of RMS Titanic. The primary mission of the Ice Patrol is to monitor the iceberg danger in the North Atlantic Ocean and provide relevant iceberg warning products to the maritime community.

Founding
From the earliest journeys into the North Atlantic, icebergs have threatened vessels. A review of the history of navigation prior to the turn of the 20th century shows an impressive number of casualties occurred in the vicinity of the Grand Banks of Newfoundland. For example, Lady of the Lake sank in 1833 with a loss of 215 people. Between 1882 and 1890, 14 vessels were lost and 40 seriously damaged due to ice. This does not include the large number of whaling and fishing vessels lost or damaged by ice. It took one of the greatest marine disasters of all time to arouse public demand for international cooperative action to deal with this marine hazard. This disaster, the sinking of RMS Titanic on 15 April 1912, was the prime impetus for the establishment of the International Ice Patrol.

On her maiden voyage from Southampton, England bound for New York, Titanic collided with an iceberg just south of the tail of the Grand Banks and sank in less than three hours. The loss of life was enormous with more than 1,500 of the 2,224 passengers and crew perishing. Titanic, the brand new flagship of the White Star Line, was the largest passenger liner of her time displacing 45,000 tons and capable of sustained speed in excess of 22 kn. The loss of Titanic gripped the world with a sobering awareness of an iceberg's potential for tragedy. The sheer dimensions of the Titanic disaster created sufficient public reaction on both sides of the Atlantic to prod reluctant governments into action, producing the first Safety of Life at Sea (SOLAS) convention in 1914.

After the Titanic disaster, the U.S. Navy assigned the cruisers USS Chester (CL-1) and USS Birmingham (CL-2) to patrol the Grand Banks of Newfoundland for the remainder of 1912. In 1913, the United States Navy could not spare ships for this purpose, so the Revenue Cutter Service (forerunner of the United States Coast Guard) assumed responsibility, assigning USRC Seneca and USRC Miami to conduct the patrol.

At the first International Conference on the Safety of Life at Sea, which was convened in London on 12 November 1913, the subject of patrolling the ice regions was thoroughly discussed. The convention signed on 30 January 1914, by the representatives of the world's various maritime powers, provided for the inauguration of an international derelict-destruction, ice observation, and ice patrol service, consisting of vessels, which should patrol the ice regions during the season of iceberg danger and attempt to keep the trans-Atlantic lanes clear of derelicts during the remainder of the year. Due primarily to the experience gained in 1912 and 1913, the United States Government was invited to undertake the management of the triple service, the expense to be defrayed by the 13 nations interested in trans-Atlantic navigation. The second International Conference on Safety of Life at Sea was convened in London on 16 April 1929. Eighteen nations participated, all of which signed the final act on 31 May 1929. Because of the fear in the United States Senate as a result of ambiguities in Article 54 dealing with control, the 1929 convention was not ratified by the United States until 7 August 1936, and even then the ratification was accompanied by three reservations. At the same time, Congress enacted legislation on 25 June 1936, formally requiring the Commandant of the Coast Guard to administer the International Ice Observation and Ice Patrol Service (Chap. 807, para. 2 49 USC 1922) and describing in general fashion the manner in which this service was to be performed. With only minor changes, this remains today as the basic Coast Guard authority to operate the International Ice Patrol. Since 1929, there have been three SOLAS conventions (1948, 1960 & 1974). None of these have recommended any basic change affecting the Ice Patrol.

Every year since 1914, the United States Coast Guard and the International Ice Patrol lay a wreath from a ship or an aircraft at the site of the Titanic disaster on 15 April. The solemn ceremony is attended by the craft's crew and a dedication statement to the Titanic and her fatalities is read.

Administration
From its inception until the beginning of World War II, the Ice Patrol was conducted from two surface patrol cutters alternating surveillance patrols of the southern ice limits. In 1931 and thereafter a third ship was assigned to Ice Patrol to perform oceanographic observations in the vicinity of the Grand Banks. After World War II, aerial surveillance became the primary ice reconnaissance method with surface patrols phased out except during unusually heavy ice years or extended periods of reduced visibility. Use of the oceanographic vessel continued until 1982, when the Coast Guard's sole remaining oceanographic ship, USCGC Evergreen (WLB-295), was converted to a medium endurance cutter. The aircraft has distinct advantages for ice reconnaissance providing much greater coverage in a relatively short period of time.

From 1946 until 1966, the Ice Patrol offices, operations center and reconnaissance aircraft were based at the Coast Guard Air Detachment Argentia, Newfoundland during the ice season.

Due to changing operational commitments and financial constraints the Coast Guard Argentia Air Detachment closed in 1966. Ice Patrol headquarters and operations center moved to Governors Island, New York where they remained until October 1983.

Today the International Ice Patrol is located at the NOAA Satellite Operations Facility in Suitland, Maryland. Previously, it was located at the Coast Guard Research and Development Center in New London, Connecticut. The ice reconnaissance detachment, usually composed of eleven aircrew and four ice observers flying in an HC-130 aircraft, continues to work out of Newfoundland.

The Ice Patrol disseminates information on icebergs and the limit of all known sea ice via radio broadcast from the U.S. Coast Guard Communications Command (COMMCOM) located in Chesapeake, Virginia via Inmarsat Safetynet, and radio facsimile chart. Ice Patrol information is also available via internet access. 2002 changes to SOLAS requires ships transiting the region guarded by the Ice Patrol to use the services provided during the ice season.

Aviation history of the International Ice Patrol

 * 6 February 1946 – A PBY-5A makes the first International Ice Patrol reconnaissance flight.
 * 24 February 1946 – Two PB4Y-1s arrive at Naval Station Argentia in Argentia, Newfoundland to become the first dedicated Ice Patrol aircraft.
 * 1 July 1946 – First helicopter deployments in International Ice Patrol. An HNS-1 helicopter, Sikorsky R-4, CGNR 39047, flew from USCGC Northwind (WAGB-282) off the Greenland coast.
 * 1947 – A PB-1G becomes the Ice Patrol aircraft.
 * 1948 – Camera-equipped PB-1G begins an iceberg census off Baffin Island completed in 1949.
 * 1949 – Aircraft become the sole reconnaissance tools for the first time.
 * 1956 – Unsuccessful tests to identify icebergs by marking with dye markers, commercial dye, and used motor oil.
 * 1958 – Last ice patrol by a PB-1G.
 * 1959 – R5Ds replace PB-1Gs.
 * June 1959 – Unsuccessful iceberg demolition experiments with magnesium and thermite incendiary bombs.
 * May 1960 – Unsuccessful iceberg demolition experiments dropping high-explosive bombs from UF-2G.
 * 24 May 1962 – First Ice Patrol by HC-130B.
 * 1963 – R5Ds replaced by Doppler Navigation System equipped HC-130Bs.
 * 1964 – First successful use of Airborne radiation thermometer to detect changes in surface water temperature.
 * 1967 – First use of microwave radiometer to differentiate radar contacts as ship or iceberg.
 * 30 April 1970 – The ice reconnaissance detachment moved from Argentia to CFB Summerside in Prince Edward Island.
 * 1971 – Side-looking airborne radar (SLAR) evaluation began.
 * 1973 – Inertial Navigation System installed on Ice Patrol aircraft.
 * 1973 – The ice reconnaissance detachment moved to St. John's International Airport, St. John's, Newfoundland.
 * 1982 – The ice reconnaissance detachment relocated to CFB Gander, Gander, Newfoundland.
 * 1989 – The ice reconnaissance detachment moved back to St. John's, Newfoundland.

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Talk:Sainte-Thérèse, Quebec

GM
The sentence beginning "Until last year, when General Motors shut its doors" needs to be rewritten to use a specific date or year, since it will become outdated within a year (if it has not already). However, my web searches haven't turned up any references to the closing mentioning the actual date, so I can't fix this. Steve Summit 13:31, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Lots of pages mention the announcement in 2001 that the plant would close in 2002, but mentions of the actual closure are indeed hard to find. (The weird thing is that this even applies to GM's own annual reports for 2002 and 2003. They both mention the announcement because there were accounting issues applicable to it, but not the actual closure, unless acroread's search of the PDFs missed something.) Anyway, here's a confirmation: it was indeed 2002 (and thus "last year" was already wrong when written). I've fixed the article. 207.176.159.90 23:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Only Assembly Plant in Canada Outside of Ontario
I can't speak to possible locations in Western Canada, but I know that Volvo has long since operated a successful assembly plant in Nova Scotia. Thus, the statement that it was the only Canadian automobile assembly plant outside of Ontario is wrong.
 * It's probably meant to speak about Auto-Pact companies (GM, Ford, Chrysler) 70.51.10.188 (talk) 03:22, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, as far as I know, the GM plant was part of Boisbriand, the neighboring town. So someone should probably remove that statement. 24.203.73.70 (talk) 02:38, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Requested move 27 April 2020

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved buidhe 23:30, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Sainte-Thérèse → Sainte-Thérèse, Quebec – Better name, clarifying this is a place not the saint, and where it is in the world. I do not believe this place is recognized world-wide as the primary usage of the term. BTW i came here from discussion at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_April_17 about related category, which is and has long been, properly, Category:Sainte-Thérèse, Quebec. Move to match the category. Doncram (talk) 18:54, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support, and move DAB to base name.--Ortizesp (talk) 23:29, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, Sainte Thérèse (disambiguation), which covers places and saints named "Sainte Thérèse" and "Sainte-Thérèse" should be moved to "Sainte Thérèse" or "Sainte-Thérèse", with the other variation redirecting there. It is a combo dab for all nearly-the same terms. --Doncram (talk) 00:32, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

 * Oppose Firstly, at Sainte Thérèse (disambiguation) no other article uses the same exact name (they have some additional parts in the name, such as -de-Blainville, de-la-Gatineau, station, assembly, etc). Secondly, this is English Wikipedia where Sainte-Thérèse properly is Saint Teresa. The name is ambiguous in the French language, but not in English. We can always put a relevant hatnote, if anything. Brandmeistertalk  07:22, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The name is ambiguous. Where there exists tiny variations that many/most readers will not know enough about to attend to and understand, it serves readers best to have what might be called a "combo dab" by the few who know all about everything anyhow.  And you don't know what all usage is;  you simply don't know whether in Blainville, or in certain literature, or wherever, that "Sainte-Thérèse" doesn't mean someplace else.  I highly doubt that if a hyphen is used, that every single person in the world knows that cannot ever mean a saint person, especially as you agree it is that way in French.  So I highly disagree with your wish to make a false distinction here.  I guess we have to agree to disagree about that. --Doncram (talk) 11:45, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

 * Support. No clear primary topic. All the churches will be commonly referred to as Sainte-Thérèse for a start. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:35, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support I agree with Brandmeister insofar as this is English Wikipedia where Sainte-Thérèse properly is Saint Teresa. However, enough formal names are used by English speakers about French speaking areas, that further clarity is warranted. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:49, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Dipangkorn Rasmijoti

moving
Please consult Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Thailand-related articles) 217.140.193.123 16:27, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

'Rasmichoti' is not a middle name or a family name. It is a part of his first name, so we cannot just omit that. CW32 13:47, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Move from Tipangkorn Rasmichoti to Prince Tipangkorn Rasmichoti? (the vote was started 22 July 2005 13:33 and ended by Violetriga 23 July 2005, around 25 hours after the start of the vote)

 * support move, as User:Arrigo simply moved the article´s original name without posting a discussion on it first, as well User:Ahoerstemeier. this was in clear violation of Wikipedia policy. as there are no clear rules regarding the naming of Thai royals (female and male), propose to restore the original name until proper consensus can be found, without anyone steamrolling over the other. thank you. Antares911 13:33, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

 * 1) Oppose proposed move. Princely title unnecessary for any encyclopedic purpose (such as disambiguation). Spirit of naming conventions do not require princely title to be used in heading here. Simplicity in headings is desirable. (If a reader already knows so much about Tipangkorn Rasmichoti that the reader knows he is a prince, why the reader even comes here? Explanations what someone/something IS belomgs to the text of the article, not to the heading.) Arrigo 20:45, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

(Not a vote)Please don't vote on moving individual articles. We need a consistent policy. Mark1 04:16, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

naming style
This article represents now a good result of naming Thai royals, and should be used as example to articles on other Thai royals too. Titles and "of Thailand" are not usually needed, thus they can be stripped away. Arrigo 20:52, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

This argument is going on simultaneously at a number of articles about members of the Thai royal family. The priciple involved is that Thais (all 40 million of them) find the use of unadorned personal names for members of the royal family very offensive, and I and other users with some knowledge of Thailand (I am there now) believe that Wikipedia should take this into account. We don't do this for other royals by the way - do we have an article for Elizabeth Windsor? This article should revert to Prince Tipangkorn Rasmichoti. Adam 05:02, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

I've named this as per reasoning given at Talk:Srirasmi of Thailand. violet/riga (t) 14:53, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

The second in line to the UK throne is Prince_William_of_Wales. I agree with Adam, why should Thai royalty be any different. Prince Tipangkorn Rasmichoti would be appropriate. 203.214.155.56 11:50, 28 April 2007 (UTC)Paul

Verification
Not sure if this is the right place, but verification that the prince is second in line to the throne was requested. How about: http://www.answers.com/topic/dipangkorn-rasmijoti. 203.214.155.56 11:50, 28 April 2007 (UTC)Paul

 * Answers.com is a Mirror site of Wikipedia so can't be used as a source.dwc lr 15:37, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

No verification. Removed.

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Requested move

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The result of the proposal was move. JPG-GR (talk) 19:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Dipankara Rasmijoti → Dipangkorn Rasmijoti — When the Thai version of his article refers to him as Prince Dipangkorn Rasmijoti, and the link to photos of him in this article, as well as most google searches for his name show more results for Dipangkorn Rasmijoti, I would think that it's obvious this current name is very incorrect. —Morhange (talk) 03:45, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Survey

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 * Support as nom. Morhange (talk) 03:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

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The only son of Vajiralongkorn?
"Aside from the King, both Dipangkorn and his father are the only male members of the Thai Royal Family."

Vajiralongkorn's article says he had four more sons from Mom Sujarinee Mahidol na Ayudhaya:
 * 1) HSH Prince Juthawachara Mahidol, born August 29, 1979
 * 2) HSH Prince Vacharaeson Mahidol, May 27, 1981
 * 3) HSH Prince Chakriwat Mahidol, February 26, 1983
 * 4) HSH Prince Vacharawee Mahidol, June 14, 1985

Apart from the secrecy in Thailand, isn't there any information about them? Adam78 (talk) 13:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Mothers' milk
The now 4-year-old prince still appears as a poster child for breast milk, depicted as thinking: Thai: "นมแม่ ดีที่หนื่งเลย", (For sure, mother's milk is #1). This is un-encyclopedic?
 * The current picture for the article is cropped from the one above.--Pawyilee (talk) 18:06, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

He is now 13 years old, and he may continue to be in the poster. Raisul-wiki (talk) 08:39, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Phra Ong Tee/Ti and mother's milk
The role the young prince has played in advancing the role of breastfeeding in Thailand has been deleted every time I've tried to add it, so whoever is anti-breastfeeding can now turn thumbs down on both his breastfeeding AND his nickname, Phra Ong Tee, as reported in this article April 27, 2006 A chronicle of a Prince The article spells the nickname "Phra Ong Tee," but wikileaks of Eric G. John's cablegrams uses RTGS "Ti." —Pawyilee (talk) 21:38, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

How about a picture of him where he's not 3 years old?
It's incredibly outdated. -- Jack 23:52, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It would of course be great if we had such a freely licensed photo. I've tagged this page with the reqphoto template. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:49, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

 * It's also an out-of-focus image. I'm deleting it. GoodDay (talk) 12:17, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

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Is he the Crown Prince?
As he is first in the line of succession, would he already the defacto Crown Prince, or does he need this title bestowed upon him in the vein of the Prince of Wales title? 203.46.132.214 (talk) 02:48, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

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Untitled
if renaming of this article is considered, please post a discussion first and do not simply move the article without posting a Requested moves first, thank you. Antares911 13:35, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Please consult Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Thailand-related articles) 217.140.193.123 16:23, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

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Filipinos are not descended from Malaysians, Chinese, and Melanesian
Please refer to the talk page concerning the Philippines article. --Chris 01:29, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

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Filipinos' ethnic make-up
This is addressed to User:TruthComission and his/her confusion concerning the Filipinos' ethnic make-up.

Although Filipinos are popularly called Malayans, the reality is that they are not. The reason they were called Malay(an)s was due to H. Otley Beyer's theory that Filipinos are descended from Malays who came from the Malay peninsula. Beyer took the name of an existing ethnic group and expanded it to include Filipinos. Since Beyer, there have been more conclusive studies that Filipinos came from the north rather than the south. If they didn't come from the south, then this does not them Malay. The ancestors of the Malays instead came from the Philippines (but ultimately from southern China).

As for Filipinos being Melanesians, I am not sure how where you got this information from. Would you care to share your source? I don't see any indication from the 89 year old source you quoted. The ancestors of the Melanesians also came from the same place where the ancestors of the Filipinos came from.

Chinese - yes there are many Chinese Filipinos. But to state that all Filipinos are mixed of Chinese blood is very misleading.

Here are sources that I urge you to peruse:

." 1995
 * Bellwood, Peter. "Taiwan and the Prehistory of the Austronesians-speaking Peoples." The Review of Archaeology. 1998
 * Bellwood, Peter. "The Austronesians: Historical and comparative perspectives
 * Blundell. “The Austronesian Dispersal,” Newsletter of Chinese Ethnology.
 * Blust, Robert. "The Austronesian Homeland: A Linguistic Perspective." Asian Perspectives.
 * "The Austronesian Dispersal and the Origin of Languages." 1991. Scientific American. July.

And here are some websites to peruse:
 * From Australian National University's site
 * a map of a partial Austronesian migration
 * Another map
 * Another view of Austronesian migration from Berkeley
 * A site about Polynesian origins from Stanford
 * List of sources from University of Hawai'i that you could peruse.

Last but not least, "Asian Latinos?" Filipinos indeed have Hispanic influence. And indeed they are Asians. But they are in no way Asian Latinos. First, they do not meet the definition of Latino as you can see in that article. Second Asian Latinos refers to something totally different. Please stop redefining terminology that is not even used in academia. --Chris 09:46, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Filipinos are predominantly Malay
While it is true that Filipinos descended from Austronesians originating in Taiwan. Most of the Malay ancestry descended from Filipinos came directly from the Malay Peninsula. There were 3 waves of Malay migration in the Philippines. The first wave came directly from Taiwan, these are the ancestors of the T'boli, Igorots and other highlander tribes. The second wave of migration came from the ten Bornean chiefs who brought along them their subjects. These were the ancestors of the Tagalogs, Ilonngos, Bicolanos, Cebuanos and other low-land Filipinos. Majority of the Philippine population came from this wave. The third wave came just about the end of the Pre-hispanic era up to the Spanish Colonial era. These Malays are now the ancestors of the Muslims in mindanao and Sulu. Furthermore, even before the Chinese have trade and commercial relatonship with China, Malays are already imbued with Chinese, Arab, Hindu, Persian blood and all other blood of ancient civilizations they have been in contact with. Malayan/Malay and Malaysians are two different terms, please learn to differentiate them. Melanesians are what is locally known in the Philippines as the "Negritos". Thus, it is correct to say that categorically, Filipinos are descended from the Malay, Chinese and Melanesian peoples.

Also, there are small communities of Latin people that came directly from Asia and Oceania where the Spaniards and Portuguese once colonized it. Some of them are in the Philippines.

 * The migration wave theory is exactly what Beyer proposed. And wave theory is what is no longer true. All Filipinos came from the north, as evidenced by current research. There were people from Malaysia who came to the Philippines, but this was much later. But they did not intermingle with the Filipinos. Given linguistic research, the languages of the the northern Philippines (Ilokano, Pangasinan, Kapampangan, Ifugao, etc.), central Philippines (Tagalog, Bikol, Cebuano, Tausug, etc.), and southern (Maranao & Maguindanao) are closely related to each other. This suggests a common source. Furthermore, the Malay language is so dramatically simplified. The languages of the Philippines are conservative - they retain many of the features of the ancestral languages. --Chris 18:07, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Majority of Filipinos did NOT directly come from the Taiwan
The research only explains the migration of Austronesians from Taiwan to Southeast Asia to Oceania via the Philippines. This however, does not give extensive research on the history of migrations exclusively in the Philippines. That while it is true that first migration came directly from Taiwan, the descendants of most Filipinos came from the Malay Peninsula. The reason is that, when the first wave of Austronesian migration from Taiwan to the Philippines occured, these austronesians do not have the technology as advanced as those in the Indo-Chinese regions. These tribal villages only adapted the technology coming from their previous settlement. Many Austronesians however, continued to move from Philippines to Southeast Asia and then to Oceania. And after several centuries, these Austronesians who settled to the Malay peninsula, adapted the technology and culture of the advanced civilization of India and other ancient civilizations of Asia as exhibited by the Majapahit and Sri-Vijaya empires. The second wave of Malay migration occured because these austronesians or malays, trying to escape the clutch of invasion from the latter empire, went to the Philippines where they also brought the culture and technology they have adopted. Majority of Filipino's ancestry are rooted to this said wave.

Three revert rule
You have been blocked for 24 hours under the three revert rule. If you wish to appeal please contact another administrator or the mailing list.Geni 10:31, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Filipino Basque
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 * Thanks for your note - but this causes a clash of rights. When you post text to Wikipedia, you buy into the conditions at the foot of the edit page: the GNU Free Documentation License and freedom to edit mercilessly. That's incompatible with any previous condition not to alter the text. If the Center for Basque Studies are not prepared to allow edits, then it shouldn't be posted here. Tearlach 01:30, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Brief modifications
Filipino won't be considered for transwiki to Wiktionary because it is a disambiguation page. Similar pages exist for Spanish, Italian, Japanese, Mexican, American, Russian, and many others. Don't worry. --Chris 02:26, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

 * But it was a candidate to wiktionary as noted by .org. I also want to disagree on Filipiuno term used on "from or related to the Philippines" since mostly "Philippine" is used (e.g. Philippine Islands, Philippine Airlines, Philippine Navy, etc. and not Filipino. I also think it would be better if we will be more informative on the origin and history of the said subject as compared to the rest. In the meantime, I look forward for a compromise. So we can at least have a final "Filipino" article that we dont have to watch too much.

 * I include the wiktionary tag. That is so people can look it up on Wiktionary easily. There already is a wiktionary entry. I just linked to it. So, it's not in danger of being moved. As for the "from or related to the Philippines." Filipino fits in some cases like (Filipino model, Filipino basketball player, Filipino linguist, Filipino author, etc.). Perhaps that should be made clear. What do you think? --Chris 02:53, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, I agree it should be made clear. And how about the origin and description of the Filipino article? I think we should not be copying the rest, for who knows, they will be more likely to modify their respective article adding on the origin and description of the subject (e.g. Spanish, Japanese, Russian)

 * Ok, I put something there. I realized that Filipino is also used for non-people. Like The Filipino Channel, Filipino literature, Filipino Community, etc.  Anyway, I've been on Wikipedia for a while and pages like Spanish and Japanese have been that way, more or less. Any information should be put on a specific page. --Chris 05:44, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes but Filipino alone always refer to the people, and is also originated to refer to people. Should we not explain this? We find the information too modest and lacking. And as I said before, we should not be copying their article, it's not the given standard.

 * Read the guidelines on what to put and what not to put in a Disambiguation page. And who is "we?"  Are you two people? --Chris 07:00, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

 * We have not read the guidelines yet, but we have browsed on the article "Filipino people" and we are okay with that. "We" are actually group of four friends, on one account. Sorry for the confusion.

On Al-Andalus
I understand that you have been in debate with Al-Andalus about Malays. In my opinion, I do believe that Austronesian is primarily Malay-Polynesian, so it is only appropriate to term Filipinos Malay. Austronesian [used as a term for language and culture), Malay-polynesian (popularly used by academic circles to refer to Austronesians). But anyway, I am not here for that debate, my intention here with you is about the guy named Al-Andalus, Please see "mestizo" particularly on "mestizo ascendancy" and also on discussion and please tell me what you think and your opinions about it, as I find the article very misleading.

 * I'll put Mestizo on the list of articles to check out. I've been busy with getting Kapampangan language out of stub status and plan on working other Philippine languages before my vacation ends. Anyway, I won't repeat my debate here with Malay and why it's an inappropriate term in academia, but I will refer you to the sources at the end of the Filipino people article.

 * And thanks for your cooperation - you all are getting a hang of this Wiki stuff. Now, I must ask.. So the four of you, are you students? If so, where? --Chris 22:28, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Actually yes, but two of us already graduated. Ateneo de Zamboanga University.

Can you please tell us when will you be starting on the mestizo article? We've already started it, we need your help on the vocabularies and hopefully some additional sources if yu have some.

 * I just took a look at the article and I see you engaged in a war. Unfortunately, I'm not of much help with this topic. I suggest combing through sources and see what you can find. That's what wins edit wars here. Sorry I'm not of much help. --Chris 08:47, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Mock object

Merge this
Mock objects are used in TestDrivenDesign (TDD). A class may interact with various neighbouring objects. When writing a unit test for the primary class, neighbouring classes are replaced with mock objects. In the test, these behave just like real objects. The programmer will set up return values for mock object methods as well as expectations for the number of times each method is called. Expected arguments for each mock method call can also be defined.

In this way, the primary class can be tested without the secondary, neighbouring objects having to exist at all. This allows testing to be used as a design tool: you can start at the top and watch the design riple out as you work your way down. Once a primary object and its test has been written, the mocks (and further unit tests) are implemented.

Rework
I hope I managed to make this article more accessible to laypeople; in particular, I felt that the e-mail client example was too technical for this article. I realize most of us Wikipedia geeks are, well, geeks, but really, this isn't Slashdot. Ataru 18:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree; your alarm clock example is much better. --Babomb 06:04, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Stub vs Mock
Would a reference to the fact that many people would still use the term "stub" make everything clearer. A stub is a "mock object" a "mock object" is a stub. Stubs are used in both procedural and OO languages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.206.19.160 (talk • contribs)

 * Despite the fact that 90% the distinction makes little difference, proponents of Extreme Programming usually assert that they are different entities, on the ground that while stubs only act as placeholders for volatile services, mock objects can also have expectations attached to them. Martin Fowler wrote a very good piece on this: http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/mocksArentStubs.html — Edward Z. Yang (Talk) 01:31, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Agreed. The article shouldn't say that mocks "are" stubs, but it's probably a good idea to include a section comparing them to stubs or at least mention that they're similar, instead of just having stubs in the "see also". Babomb 17:47, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion: 'Mocking the Embbedded World' external link change?
I'd like to suggest a change to the final link in the list of external links ("Mocking the Embedded World"). I am the principal author of the original paper.

Methods & Tools Newsletter (the current destination of the link being discussed) approached me asking if they could publish the work. I agreed and provided an edited and condensed version of the original paper.

The full paper AND an executable example project can be found at another link (http://www.atomicobject.com/pages/Embedded+Software#MockingEmbeddedWorld). Perhaps this is a more useful external link; as such, I offer for consideration that the link be updated. Mkarlesky (talk) 18:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Having not seen any objections, I've gone ahead and updated the 'Mocking the Embedded World' external link to the one suggested above. Mkarlesky (talk) 21:21, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Mocks are not Like Crash Dummies.
The analogy doesn't work. A mock isn't the object being tested, it facilitates the testing of other object. If a crash dummy is a mock, then the test is what happens to a car dashboard when a human body slams into it at 60mph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:898D:CB00:4D87:538E:2F57:9E21 (talk) 19:40, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmm.
 * Software under test = car under test;
 * database written by software = driver or passenger in car;
 * mock database = crash test dummy;
 * software is tested in use = car is tested in use
 * mock may be examined after test = dummy may be examined after test
 * at least no real database was filled with rubbish = at least no real person was hurt in car
 * --Nigelj (talk) 23:42, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I was going say that crash test dummy was a poor analogy for mock before finding this topic. But ... the analogy is correct in the respect that Nigelj points out. My issue is that a mock is generally very a simple thing. What I think of as a crash test dummy is not simple. It's a highly designed simulator; a system in and of itself. Thing is, it's an analogy ... and as such is only an approximation. IMO I think it's suspect whether WP should contain any analogies due to there inherent limitations. Stevebroshar (talk) 12:26, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

This article lacks clarity
Much has changed since this article was first written, including the definition of mocks, fakes, and stubs. The newest reference OP used for this in the following section was from a StackOverflow post in 2010.

Mocks, fakes, and stubs

Classification between mocks, fakes, and stubs is highly inconsistent across the literature. Consistent among the literature, though, is that they all represent a production object in a testing environment by exposing the same interface.

I propose updating to include clear definitions, referencing these articles:

 * https://www.turing.com/kb/stub-vs-mock

 * https://www.parasoft.com/blog/benefits-of-service-virtualization-beyond-stubbing-mocking/

Hcsnoke (talk) 15:26, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

 * What evidence did you have that the definitions have changed?
 * What would be the definition difference based on these articles?
 * Parasoft is a commercial vendor that has potential conflict of interest, I would recommend using at least at some level peer reviewed content, like InfoQ https://www.infoq.com/articles/twelve-testing-techniques-microservices-intro/ Wojtek-tp (talk) 15:39, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * On revisiting this, the error appears to be mine in how I read the section; understanding classification as a distinction between items of similar qualities, on which the literature seems clear on which does what. Hcsnoke (talk) 17:08, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * IMO there is lack of consensus on terminology of the classifications/types of test doubles. ... Even test double is dubious since few use that term, but it's the only term I've seen referenced that covers all such test-time imitation things. Like many things in the world, there are authors who talk of concepts and then there are inventors (i.e. tool vendors) that implement them ... who often use different terms. ... WP rules say info is supposed be cited which means from authors, but the things in the wild (real word) are often called something else. To follow its rules, WP article needs to be academic. To be useful, it needs to break its rules :) (I went way off topic :o) Stevebroshar (talk) 12:35, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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Edwin Holgate

Edwin Headley Holgate (August 19, 1892 – May 21, 1977), was a Canadian painter, muralist, and printmaker. Holgate played a major role in Montreal's art community, and the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts, where he both studied and taught. He was known primarily as a portraitist and for his treatment of the female nude in an outdoor setting in a series of paintings and prints during the 1930s.

Life and career
Holgate was born in Allandale, Ontario, Canada, the son of Bessie Bell (Headley) and Henry Holgate. Holgate's family moved to Jamaica in 1895 where his father worked as an engineer. In 1897, he was sent to Toronto to go to school. In 1901, his family returned from Jamaica and settled in Montreal.

Holgate studied at the Art Association of Montreal with Alberta Cleland (beginning in 1905), William Brymner (who also taught A. Y. Jackson), and later Maurice Cullen. From 1912 until 1923, he exhibited in the annual Spring Exhibitions almost every year. From 1912 to 1914, he studied in Paris at the Académie de la Grande Chaumière but found it disappointing. He was travelling in Ukraine at the outset of World War I, and was forced to cross Asia to return to Canada. He enlisted in 1916 and returned to France with the Canadian Army.

Holgate's first exhibition was held at the Arts Club of Montreal in 1922. In 1933, he had a solo exhibition at the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts. He taught wood engraving at the École des Beaux-Arts de Montréal from 1928 to 1934, then with Lilias Torrance Newton directed art classes at the museum from 1934 to 1936 and again, from 1938 to 1940.

Holgate was said by A. Y. Jackson to be the instigator of the Beaver Hall Group, of which he was a member, in 1920. He was the eighth member of the Group of Seven — he was invited to join the group in March 1929 and showed with it in 1930 and 1931. In 1934, he was elected an associate of the Royal Canadian Academy of Arts. He was elected a full member in 1935. He resigned in 1945 but was reinstated in 1953. He was also a founding member of the Canadian Group of Painters.

Holgate worked as an official Canadian war artist with the Royal Canadian Air Force in England during World War II. On his return to Montreal after the war, he found that the arts scene had changed, with the arrival of the Automatistes. He left Montreal to live in the Laurentians in 1946. In 1954, he was one of 18 Canadian artists commissioned by the Canadian Pacific Railway to paint a mural for the interior of one of the new Park cars entering service on the new Canadian transcontinental train. Each the murals depicted a different national or provincial park; Holgate's was Mont-Tremblant National Park.

Holgate died in 1977 and was buried at Mount Royal Cemetery in Montreal.

The National Gallery of Canada held a retrospective of his work which travelled across Canada in 1975. The Montreal Museum of Fine Arts organized a second retrospective in 2005, curated by Rosalind Pepall and Brian Foss.

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Miss Florida USA

The Miss Florida USA competition is the pageant that selects the representative for the state of Florida in the Miss USA pageant.

Up until the 2017 pageant, both Miss and Teen state pageants were held separately in different months. In recent years, the organization was decided that both pageants would compete at the same time from 2018 onwards, just like the most of state pageants in the Miss USA system.

While Florida has had number of runners-up, finalists, and semi-finalists, the state has yet to win the Miss USA title. Although Cheryl Patton, who placed 2nd runner-up in Miss USA 1967, became Miss USA after Sylvia Hitchcock won Miss Universe. The most recent placement was Caroline Dixon who placed Top 20 in 2023.

Two former Miss Florida Teen USA titleholders have won this competition, and five titleholders have also competed at Miss America.

In 2019, contestant Madison Anderson (who finished first runner-up in that pageant) would go on to become Miss Universe Puerto Rico 2019, and then competed in Miss Universe 2019, placed first runner-up to Zozibini Tunzi of South Africa. On 11 August 2022, contestant Ashley Cariño (who finished second runner-up at Miss USA 2021) was crowned Miss Universe Puerto Rico 2022 and represented Puerto Rico at Miss Universe 2022, ultimately placing in the Top 5

The current titleholder is Peyton Lewis of Orlando and was crowned on July 7, 2024 at the Coral Springs Center For The Arts in Coral Springs. She will represent Florida at Miss USA 2024.

Placements

 * 1st runners-up: Marcia Valibus (1958), Clo Cabrera (1987)
 * 2nd runners-up: Nanita Greene (1959), Cheryl Patton (1967), Barbara Bowser (1980), Ashley Cariño (2021)
 * 3rd runners-up: Connie Ensor (1972), Mary-Margaret Humes (1975), Monica Farrell (1988)
 * 4th runners-up: Nancy Wakefield (1960), Randy Beard (1966), Melissa Witek (2005), Cristin Duren (2006), Brittany Oldehoff (2014)
 * Top 5/6: Shannon Depuy (1995), Angelia Savage (1997), Génesis Dávila (2018)
 * Top 10/12: Susan Aileen Deaton (1971), Stacy Evans (1973), Cynthia Zach (1974), April Shaw (1978), Kristen Berset (2004), Jessica Rafalowski (2008), Nicolette Jennings (2019)
 * Top 15/16/20: Kay Duggar (1953), Mariles Gessler (1955), Maria Junquera (1969), Cheryl Johnson (1970), Lissette Garcia (2011), Caroline Dixon (2023)

Florida holds a record of 30 placements at Miss USA.

Awards

 * Miss Photogenic: Shannon Ford (2002), Cristin Duren (2006)
 * Miss Congeniality: Linda LeFevre (1977)
 * Best State Costume: Nancy England (1963)

Winners
Declared as Winner
 * Color key

Ended as runner-up or finalist

Ended as one of the semifinalists

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Please consult Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Thailand-related articles) 217.140.193.123 16:24, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Arrigo has moved this article despite the request posted down to please post a discussion on moving first. Requesting restoration of original name until clear rules are there. Arrigo please stop moving articles that are under renanming discussion or removing naming tags. You have done this on plenty of other occassions. Gryffindor 15:24, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

if renaming of this article is considered, please post a discussion first and do not simply move the article without posting a Wikipedia:Requested moves first, thank you. Antares911 13:36, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Readers may be interested in to know that User:Antares911 above is the former username of User:Gryffindor (also above). 217.140.193.123 20:43, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Oppose the requested move from Galyani Vadhana to Princess Galyani Vadhana of Thailand. Unnecessary and cluttering. One of the highest forms of respect is to name a person using only the pure royal name. Such as Bhumibol Adulyadej, or Chulalongkorn. Using such simple name implies that the person in question is well-known without any additions. To accord the same to Thai royals signifies the high respect of recognizing the person in question just by his one name. All additions are basically cluttering the respect. Purity is respect, clutter is disrespect. Therefore all additions (be it territorial designation such as "of Thailand" or "of Siam", titulary such as king or queen, a surname, or whatever) are clutter, and should be avoided if not necessary for disambiguation. I oppose all the clutter alternatives. Arrigo 10:15, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose. We don't put the word "Princess" or the like in the page title. CDThieme 16:41, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose use of "Princess" per Thieme above; oppose use of Thailand as unnecessary for disambiguation. Septentrionalis 21:05, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. Dragons flight 03:04, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

misc
The name of HH Prince Varananda Dhavaj need to fix. People who get the title HH (His Highness) isn't a prince anymore. He was born in royal family but his royalty isn't as high as to be a prince.--Pudtipong 05:59, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Death
My sources are reporting that she died on November 11th or 12th, 2007. Actual news of her death will be reported AFTER the king's birthday celebration in December. --Che1959 10:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

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Kaonic hydrogen

Kaonic hydrogen is an exotic atom consisting of a negatively charged kaon orbiting a proton.

Such particles were first identified, through their X-ray spectrum, at the KEK proton synchrotron in Tsukuba, Japan in 1997. More detailed studies have been performed at DAFNE in Frascati, Italy. Kaonic hydrogen has been created in very low energy collisions of kaons with the protons in a gaseous hydrogen target. At DAFNE, kaons are produced by the decay of φ mesons which are in turn created in collisions between electrons and positrons. The experiments analyzed X-rays from several electronic transitions in kaonic hydrogen.

Unlike in the hydrogen atom, where the binding between electron and proton is dominated by the electromagnetic interaction, kaons and protons interact also to a large extent by the strong interaction. In kaonic hydrogen this strong contribution was found to be repulsive, shifting the ground state energy by 283 ± 36 (statistical) ± 6 (systematic) eV, thus making the system unstable with a resonance width of 541 ± 89 (stat) ± 22 (syst) eV (decay into Λπ and Σπ ).

Kaonic hydrogen is studied mainly because of its importance for the understanding of kaon-nucleon interactions and for testing quantum chromodynamics.

title: Kaonic hydrogen