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President Kennedy School
I was wondering why you changed the alterations made on the 1/5/2006? They were accurate. As an employee of President Kennedy school and Community College I am slightly baffled to wy you reverted the text. If you could explain this underneath i would be much greatful. Thankyou.

Such a comment that was reverted was not appropriate for the type of article that was posted, this is an encyclopedia and as such each article has a specific focus and should be clearly referenced. I created the article and wish it to be factual accurate, as far as I aware that line was not factual accurate. Davidkinnen 19:18, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you should go and ask the person in question, I think you will find he would agree with the statement, and find it humourous also.

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Cleanup
Why did you put Dark Jedi up for cleanup? Please reply on its Talk: page. --Maru 21:31, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

CSYS
Thanks for minor cleanup on CSYS; I see that you pointed directly to the relevant Higher page instead of 'Higher Grade' which then redirected itself; I can see the reason for this, as it's probably less error-prone and more logical (or is it...?!)

Wasn't sure about that "secondary educational" vs. "secondary education" when I wrote it. Although I went for the former, on reflection I think your version is better (it's hard to decide when you've spent a while writing something; sometimes it becomes clearer when you take a step back). --Fourohfour 13:33, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Fellow gay Christian returns greetings
Hey, David. I'd have responded earlier, but I couldn't figure out how to find your User-talk.

Cheers for the hello. I am a qualified RE teacher myself, but the classroom just didn't suit me and I quit with stress. Freelancing as a writer now, and might go into a local primary school in the Fall to do workshops on either RE or film.

Good job on the RE article. --Dave Rattigan

Advocates, etc.
Just a short note to thank you for your message and to compliment you on the reformed Faculty of Advocates page and the amended Advocate page. You are correct to remove the merge request. --Lucifer(sc) 15:09, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Plaitiff
Reverted your changes to this article. My understanding is that the term defender is used also in civil cases in Scotland and is in fact less common with criminal cases (where "accused" is typical). When there is an appeal, a petition or an application then the person opposing it is a "respondent". This is true of criminal cases. The terms for someone seeking an appeal vary, but include "appellant", "suspender", "noter", "advocater" and "reclaimer" depending on the specific procedure. Note that someone can be both an appellant and pursuer, or indeed respondent and pursuer, depending on how the previous stages of the case have played out.

Hope this helps.

Lucifer(sc) 16:16, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Further to the above and your comment to me I agree with what you say, but my perception of how your changes read to the old Palitiff article was that it appered to imply that the term defender was not used in civil contexts.

Lucifer(sc) 15:33, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Lord President/Lord Justice General
David, I'm afraid I've had to revert your change to the Order of Precedence for Scotland, in which you had replaced reference to the Lord Justice General with one to the Lord President. We had discussion earlier in the year as to whether LP or LJG should be the main title, but when it comes to precedence it is his role as Lord Justice General that gives him his place in the pecking order, even if in modern times the role of Lord President is more important. If you check any reference giving the Order of Precedence, you will find that the LJG rather than the LP is listed.--George Burgess 08:15, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
 * A month ago you kindly inserted an image of the trial judges on the Pan Am Flight 103 bombing trial page. Could you manage to do the same for the five appeal court Judges, headed by Lord Cullen, Lord Justice General to accompany the new appeal section?Phase1 15:57, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Crown Office/ Procurator Fiscal
You've created a link to the Procurator Fiscal on the Crown Office page. At the moment this leads straight back to the same page. Are you intending to separate out the PF material again? There's now sufficient material to justify that.

 * Created Procurator Fiscal article Davidkinnen 20:26, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Education in Britain
Thanks for your message David- You're right that I neglected education in Scotland in the new article I wrote. In my defence, I mainly did so because Scotland has had a sensible, uncomplicated policy of having all comprehensive schools. Also, I didn't think there were many operational differences between comps north and south of the border. My experience of Scottish Education stopped when I was nine, so perhaps I shouldn't have extrapolated so much (particularly in the wake of devolution).

I did put in something about schooling in NI, although I did so at the bottom of the article on the Tripartite System, which now you mention it may not be the best place for it. The main article on education in NI has a good coverage of the basic points, and the only major thing left out seems to be the exams.

In any case, it's very good of you to put in information from the regions- that was one thing I found very hard to find in the course of my research. Thanks for offering to sort it out. --Evil Capitalist 14:31, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Comprehensive system
Whilst I appreciate - and welcome - the additional detail I am not happy about the tone and approach of recent edits. References in favour of comprehensive education have been removed and replaced with dubious party political references. For example you have deleted the reference to the fact (please note - fact) that Margaret Thatcher during her time as education secretary continued the policy of the previous Labour government on comprehensive schools. In fact most of the changeover from the tripartite system to the comprehensive system happened in the period 1968-75, mostly under a Conservative administration.

The material on the merits of the system is now biased because you have deleted the main arguments in favour which were:

"Supporters of the comprehensive system argue that it is unacceptable on both moral and practical grounds to select children on the basis of their ability. They also argue that comprehensive schools in the UK have allowed millions of children to gain access to further and higher education, and that the previous selective system relegated children who failed the eleven plus examination to a second class and inferior education."

Additionally the current article makes a whole series of evidence free value judgements about comprehensive education – such as:

“There is a widespread perception, shared by many of the system's advocates, that the comprehensive system has not been the success hoped for.”

“Academic performance is usually well below selective schools. This is unsurprising, since selective schools will have a natural advantage over comprehensives. However, it can be argued that the difference cannot be explained by differences in students alone.”

Who argues this? Where is the evidence for this assertion?

“In spite of the intentions of a ‘grammar school education for all’, many comprehensive schools lack resources and good teachers.”

Whose intention was it to provide a 'grammar school for all'? What evidence exists that the lack of resources and teachers is worse in comprehensives schools? Supporters would argue that teaching in a grammar school is easier than teaching in a comprehensive and that grammar school teachers would not be able to cope in the comprehensive environment.

These are not isolated examples and I am considering a wholesale rewrite of both these pages. But I feel I ought to seek comment from the authors – a courtesy not extended to me as the original author – before I do so.

Shropshire Lad

And further
I've now looked at some of the other contributions made by Evil Capitalist. I'm inclined to modify my condemnation because this is someone who has clearly put a lot of research into the contributions. But the entire tone reeks of political bias. Some mention of party politics is inevitable in this debate, but the entries paint a polarised picture that is at odds with the facts. One of the main reasons for the demise of the tripartite system was its unpopularity with middle class parents, who did not relish the prospect of their child going to secondary modern school. Authorities, such as Solihull, which have tried to ressurect the eleven plus have discovered this, and failed as a result. I've revised the Comprehensive school and Comprehensive System pages, and if I have time will systematically work my way through the others. But I resent having to do this. All Evil capitalist has to do is stick to factual reporting and the entries would be fine.

Shropshire Lad 08:11, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Scottish Wikipedians' notice board
Since joining Wikipedia I have learnt an awful lot, and one of those things is the value of teamwork. It has become increasingly apparent to me that there are absolutely tons of people out there devoted to editing the Scottish articles, but we communicate only haphazardly. To begin to attempt to remedy this, I have initiated a notice board for all Scoto-fans!

You can find it using this shortcut: WP:SCOWNB (yes, I know that it ain't very "short", but our nordic neighbours had first call on WP:SWNB).

Please sign up and post notices, or at least Watch the page.--Mais oui! 15:14, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Divinity
If you're going to make large-scale changes to an article (especially removing a whole section) you should explain yourself. I have no idea why you made the changes that you did to Divinity, and think that you were wrong (especially your removal of the section explaining the academic discipline), so have reverted them. If you think that your edits were justified, could you say why at Talk:Divinity? --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 09:19, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Ancient Scottish University
I notice that you never changed the Template:Infobox Ancient Scottish University and just want to point out that I don't mind that in any way. I suppose you could add the principal, while keeping the offices there now, but I leave that to you and the other Scots to discuss. Uppland 09:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Globalizing quorum
Is the concept of "quorum" really so different in other parts of the world? Could you give me and other editors a clue on its talk page about what to look up to find out about quorum from a global perspective?  r  speer 16:35, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

United States Constitution
I don't know if there are a written guideline about where to put interwiki-links, but I've always found it quite obvious that they should be put in the "external links"-section, as they are external links. And also, there seem to be a consensus about it thought I've never seen interwiki-links anywhere else than in the "external links"-section.- David Björklund (talk) 22:38, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
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Page name for temperature articles
To avoid flip-flopping between 'degree Fahrenheit' and 'Fahrenheit' or 'degree Celsius' and 'Celsius', I propose that we have a discussion on which we want. I see you have contributed on units of measurement, please express your opinion at Talk:Units of measurement. Thanks. bobblewik 22:58, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

AIV vs VIP
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University of Aberdeen
Hi, thanks for your comment about this article. The reason for why I changed it to the new infobox is simply because I was following in the instructions on this project: WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Colleges and Universities, which I guess is trying to promote a standard university infobox. There is a principal label in that infobox, and I changed the vice-chancellor label to that on this particular page, so that there's now a link right in the label directly to the principal article. Did you have any other Scotland-specific issues with the infobox or does that change work for you? Cpastern 10:38, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Independent school (United Kingdom)
Were in the WP:MOS does it recommend page names from (UK) to (United Kingdom)? I thought these things were covered by WP:NC. When a page name has been agreed upon with WP:RM is is customary to discuss further moves on the talk page before doing it! --Philip Baird Shearer 13:54, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

See WP:NC, the specific guideline: Naming conventions (acronyms) which says "Acronyms as disambiguators: As disambiguators, well-known acronyms such as "US" or "UK" are encouraged, to minimize typing. So, the preferred usage is Great Northern Railway (US)". So please consider reversing you change--Philip Baird Shearer 20:17, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Master of Arts
I was wondering if that page itself should be the dab. From what it looks like the other two meanings are very specific and not nearly as widely used as the first. Therefore shouldn't the graduate degree be on the main article with the other two being linked from Master of Arts (disambiguation)? gren グレン 04:59, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Changing dated wikify and cleanup tags
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Anglicanism and the Anglican Communion
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Kent-Meridian High School
Per Articles for deletion/Kent-Meridian High School, I just thought you'd like to know that the consensus for deleting High School articles now appears to be swinging back in favor of deletion. So this may indicate the beginning of another campaign to remove most High School articles. Your opinion on the AfD article would be appreciated. It might be helpful if a notability standard for High Schools could be agreed upon. Thank you. — RJH (talk) 16:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Lord President
You've amended the article on the Lord President by altering "he" to "they", in an attempt to make the article gender neutral. I have always understood "they", used in this way, to be grammatically incorrect - a plural form where a singular is required. There is only ever one at a time (although some might say that in recent weeks we've almost had two!). While I am skeptical about the value of gender neutrality in relation to an office that has only ever been filled by males, if it is thought necessary then my preference would be to use "he or she" or repeat the reference to the Lord President - that is the approach used in drafting Acts of the Scottish Parliament--George Burgess 14:24, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Scotland-law-stub
David, please see new proposal at: Thanks. --Mais oui! 08:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
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St Andrews University
If it's not too strange to ask a fellow Wikipedian, can I ask what St Andrews Uni is like? I'm an A2 student, perhaps thinking of going there. I notice from your user page that you once studied there. I don't know how long ago that was, but I'm assuming that as a teacher you're pretty well qualified to talk about the quality of teaching there etc.

How good would you say is the teaching there? How exactly is education organised? How good is the Sciences department there (I'm planning on studying Computer Science)? What sort of culture is it there, from some pictures I've seen it looks quite traditional, but as its Scotland I'm assuming it's a bit less uppity than Oxbridge? What's the town like? What's the countryside like? (I'm into hiking/hillwalking.)

If you can find the time to answer, thanks.--Uberisaac 18:04, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Ta for the advice. --Uberisaac 21:02, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

"Welcoming Congregation" restructuring
Please see my comment on reorganization of the "Welcoming Congregation" topic (replying there). Thanks! --Haruo 07:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

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Sheriff cleanup
Thank you for your help with this article. Bearian (talk) 19:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
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 * Can you create a stub for Tailzie (from Scots law)? Bearian (talk) 21:53, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Tailzie
Great job! I made two changes, removing one clause and adding a see also. Bearian (talk) 00:54, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

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Vogue House???
how is there not an article for vogue/ballroom house not listed???? it has a distinct musical style and associated sub-culture! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:6182:2600:487A:EE4C:3EF:B2BB (talk) 01:35, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Untitled
What about Jungle?

Jungle is far enough removed from house to be considered having nothing to do with it. Jungle also has a broken beat. I'm going to call BS on ultra house. Please give an example.

What about hardfloor or (related) wildpitch?

Correction: It's not "bitchy house", the proper terms are "Bitch Tracks" or "Beats" and sometimes, although rarely, "Ballroom Beats". Ballroom Beats is another sub-genre of house. Some might even say that it continues the original tradition of house as music made by Gay DJs for a Gay audience. Its origins are rooted in the era before house went mainstream and, like everything else, was co-opted by the larger society. This has led to the persistent re-writing of the history of house to exclude its  Gay origins. The fact is that Frankie Knuckles is Gay. The Warehouse was a Gay nightclub. The people he created his music for originally were Gay people. So was the guy who trained him and sent him to work in Chicago, Larry Levan of the "Legendary Paradise Garage".

Why hasen't anybody mentioned Pumpin House? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.3.189.235 (talk) 17:42, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Would love to see someone set the record "straight" for a change.

Euro-house? —Preceding unsigned comment added by X1987x (talk • contribs) 02:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Bitchy House:

Since I added it I changed it to Bitch Tracks. I think though Bitch Tracks was an East Coast term. On the west coast it was known more as Bitchy House. But I've heard enough people call it Bitch Tracks that I thought I should change it.

Yikes! Can anyone follow this "Untitled" conversation?! Also, Larry Levan DID NOT "train" Frankie Knuckles, NOR DID he send "him to work in Chicago". They came up in New York at the same time, and partied at The Loft together, where they met Robert Williams. After Robert moved to Chicago, he begged Frankie to follow and DJ his club - The Warehouse. Read up on Robert Williams, it's a good history lesson. (No Spoilers!) *cough* Ron Hardy *cough* CurtisLG (talk) 04:58, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Hard house
I haven't changed it yet, but the description of hard house is incorrect; it claims that in the UK Hard house is just the old name for hard dance. However, hard house is just one type of hard dance. Hard dance is a much wider term, incorporating sub genres such as hard trance as well. Skip1337 (talk) 00:22, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

What, no Piano House? 81.23.54.142 (talk) 20:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Flash News for you user 29 December 2008 (UTC) I've just put Piano House on the Styles Of House Music list.

Who made all these so called genres of house music?
They don't exist. The only house music is chicago, garage, and deep. please. 208.176.169.89 (talk) 14:48, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

 * First of all, that is your opinion only - other people will have different opinions. Wikipedia policy is to follow whatever reliable sources say about the subject.  Second, the page is called "styles" instead of "genres" for a reason. --ThaddeusB (talk) 23:59, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Blog House
Thank you whoever added some content under blog house affirming its legitimacy as a subculture and distinct genre of house music. It is worth noting this is the first house genre to be composed purely with digital audio workstations and disseminated to club djs and the public not through tapes and acetates but mp3s and serato. Despite the hipsterism associated with it, and the elitist disdain for thereof, (as evidenced by the deletion of the blog house wiki page) it is real and can't be ignored.

I propose we reinstate the blog house page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.67.187.103 (talk) 08:59, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Soulful House
I always see that kind of house music in compilation albums, and in artists description in the whole internet, like Moto Blanco, Freemasons, Cahill, etc. I don't have a source, but you people who works in this page, would you investigate about this kind of house, maybe we can add this to the rest of the other sub-genres. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GlitterDream (talk • contribs) 06:43, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

"Two friends" et al seem to have appropriated the "soul house" name for whatever electro they seem to be making exactly. But here in NYC when people talk about soulful house (and other cities like chicago, detroit), they are talking about a much older type of house with an often acoustic feel and soulful vocals. Artists like Louie Vega, Blaze. Related to Gospel House. This is what you get when you search youtube or traxsource for soulful house. I think the description should really be amended to reflect this reality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.115.117 (talk) 04:28, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Electro House
There is a new genre in the list for Swedish House, which does have relations to Electro House in terms of bass, but there is much more focus on synth and melodies as opposed to Electro. David Guetta and Avicii, in my opinion, produce mainly Swedish House tracks, but do include Electro House tracks in their discogs. I think this should be mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.37.24.16 (talk) 20:34, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Euro house
Firstly, the term Euro House was coined in internet times. Before then, Eurodance was known as Eurodance when the music was still popular. It's that simple. There also needs to be an understanding on the differences between dance-pop and house music. One of the primary characteristics of dance-pop and specifically eurodance is the verse/chorus structure that is present in nearly all of the songs. House music isn't necessarily about that even though there are some examples present, house mainly sought repetition, Eurodance was very much opposite to that.

Also, the article for Eurodance here is not very well sourced, but if you must use it, there is this line here: Not all European house music was absorbed into the Eurodance genre which suggests right here that the genre has distinctions from house music. Also, nowhere the opening paragraph suggests that Eurodance IS a house genre.

House music was for club listening, pop music sought chart-topping and that's what Eurodance did. And aside from certain contrasting traits that are only sonically, how is some of Lady Gaga and Katy Perry's material so structurally different, whom are widely regarded as pop musicans?

Here's the article on Allmusic: http://www.allmusic.com/style/euro-dance-ma0000005013

Nowhere does it suggest it is house, only related to it. And while it talks about being club oriented, it eventually agrees with my case that "many artists concentrate on crafting hit singles".-- F-22 Raptör Aces High ♠ 02:24, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I would favour its exclusion from the list. Let's keep it to strictly house. Although I have discovered a table of dance music genres on page 228 in The Digital Musician which places Eurodance within the house column. - Shiftchange (talk) 10:24, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Too many House Music Genres and Styles have been removed?
For those who didn't know proto Detroit techno it was called Detroit House, I'm disgusted, Blake Baxter, Kreeem, Inner City's Big Fun (1988), This is all House Music. Oh and what about Bleep House, Clonk House, Leftfield House, Rave House, they've been removed as well, And Freestyle House! That's another important Style Of House Music.≈ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.104.37 (talk) 19:17, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Everything was under the House rubric 88-90. This article needs deleting. --Scherben808 (talk) 16:49, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

What! No Gabber House?!
I can't believe that Gabber House hasn't been uploaded that's a very Dutch Type Of House Music. It should be put on Styles Of House Music page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.111.4 (talk) 13:01, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Currently Gabber house redirects to Mainstream hardcore. That article isn't within the house music category nor does it have any references.  To be listed here someone needs to find reliable sources demonstrating its legit and that its house music. - Shiftchange (talk) 21:46, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * mainstream hardcore is very different from its predecessors gabber (gabber house) and bouncy techno, it shares many similarities with Chicago & LA Hard House — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:6182:2600:487A:EE4C:3EF:B2BB (talk) 01:38, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Rename to List of house music subgenres?
Most of the terms listed here are recognized as subgenres of house music (this is directly written in this article and on individual articles of the subgenres). The term "musical style" is used by far as Interchargable term with "music genre" on English wiki, while the term "music style" is not described anywhere on wiki. It is used as random synonym for genre/subgenre/microgenre, without any logic or principles. I think it would be better to bring everything to one form and define all the described terms as subgenres of house music, as well as rename the entire list to "List of house music subgenre". Solidest (talk) 15:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

"Glitch house" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Glitch house and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 16 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:41, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Afro House
Hi @Solidest, I noticed that you have nominated Afro House for WP:SPEEDY deletion and your reasoning WP:G6. As well as de-linked it here Styles of house music, as per your edit summary ("MOS:GENRECAPS") https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Styles_of_house_music&action=history.

As per MOS:5LETTER the genre is predominantly spelled as such, they are clearly two seperate words, meaning they are both the first and last words of the title(s). Which warrants for two seperate words,capitalization(s).

There is also another page in the same category Hard NRG spelled in the same or similiar manner, without any issues.

Previously, you accused me of "posting false sources" @Afro Tech

 * Controversially, Hard NRG, also only happens to have 3 sources/ references and where you have been edit contributing as what appears to be as far back as year, 2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hard_NRG&action=history

ToosieJoosie (talk) 12:37, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

 * ■ Discussion thread discontinued here & continued, @ → Talk:Afro House ToosieJoosie (talk) 13:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

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