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Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 July 12

Category:Runs under wine

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:38, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

This category is for Windows software that can be run on Linux using the WINE software. There are a number of problems with this category: 1) Running is not a "yes or no" situation, but a matter of how well the software runs. 2) Almost all Windows software runs to some degree or other. 3) Keeping track of this sort of thing really isn't our job. Oh yes, and the category is miscapitalized. --Carnildo 23:50, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete seeing as there are so many wollyness problems pointed out by the nominator. (Capitalization, however, is a reason for renaming rather than deletion.) -Splash 01:02, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. Radiant_ >|< 07:35, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, unmaintainable, fluid. Wine website has such list and this should be referenced (not copied) from Wine article. Pavel Vozenilek 17:27, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, though this could potentially work as a list, if there's a user dedicated enough to make it. siafu 00:10, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Wine itself is not able to keep all such list /reliably/. Pavel Vozenilek 23:35, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Comedy Police, Category:Comedy soldiers, Category:Comedy priests

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:45, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Categories created by author of articles now under discussion at Votes for deletion/Comedy police, as an auxilliary to those articles; titles are unclear (should at least be "Police in comedy", etc.). -- BD2412 talk 18:27, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Army

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:45, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Empty. Cfd tag was added on July 5 by User:Gtrmp. --Kbdank71 17:32, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not clear what should be in. Pavel Vozenilek 20:42, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Whoops. Delete: redundant with Category:Armies.  -Sean Curtin 00:29, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Paranormal stubs

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The result of the debate was moved to SfD --Kbdank71 13:47, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Cfd tag was added on July 2 by User:Tabor, history states it is a duplicate. --Kbdank71 17:27, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Suspect that a stub cat belongs over at SfD? -Splash 01:02, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, it has been over at SfD Stub_types_for_deletion since it was tagged, and is still sitting there. I'll change tag to  . --Tabor 19:12, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Law case stubs

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 13:50, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Cfd tag was added on July 8, hours after being created by User:PullUpYourSocks, saying it was moved to Category:Case law stubs. --Kbdank71 17:27, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete -Splash 01:02, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. — Fingers-of-Pyrex 02:46, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Speedy, if possible. siafu 02:50, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Executed prime ministers

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The result of the debate was merge --Kbdank71 13:50, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

I suggest merging it to Category:Executed politicians, like Category:Murdered prime ministers and Category:Murdered politicians from Categories for deletion/Log/2005 July 6. --Kbdank71 17:13, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed. -Sean Curtin 00:29, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge per previous CfD (and nomination). -Splash 01:02, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge. per nomination. siafu 00:11, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Assassinated Prime Ministers

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The result of the debate was merge --Kbdank71 13:51, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Cfd tag was added on July 7 by User:PeregrineAY but not listed here. I suggest merging it to Category:Assassinated politicians, like Category:Murdered prime ministers and Category:Murdered politicians from Categories for deletion/Log/2005 July 6. --Kbdank71 17:10, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed. -Sean Curtin 00:29, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge per previous CfD (and nomination). -Splash 01:02, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge. As above. siafu 00:11, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Bismarck-Mandan, Category:Fargo-Moorhead, Category:Grand Forks-East Grand Forks

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The result of the debate was keep BM and FM, no consensus on GF/EGF (keep) --Kbdank71 14:09, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Rename to Category:Bismarck-Mandan community, et cetera, to clarify. Radiant_ >|< 09:38, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep BM and FM. There is precedent with Category:Minneapolis-St. Paul.  I'd say rename the last to Category:Greater Grand Forks as per the intro text.  --Kbdank71 14:54, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Do you mean Category:Greater Grand Forks community ?
 * Keep BM and FM, rename GF-EGF per Kbdank71. Brevity is the soul of utility. -- Visviva 16:31, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep BM and FM, rename the other to Category:Greater Grand Forks community. -Splash 00:55, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep BM and FM as they are and rename GF-EGF to Category:Greater Grand Forks. Changing GF-EGF to Category:Greater Grand Forks community would make the categories inconsistent with each other.  If BM and FM wouldn't have the "community" label attached to them, why would a "Greater Grand Forks" category have a "community" attached to it. --MatthewUND 06:20, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Excuse me if I misunderstood this, but I believe people want BM and FM kept because there exists another category using that naming schedule, e.g. Minneapolis-St. Paul. However, that might well be a reason for renaming MSP along with these ones. If people do prefer the old names for another reason, please let me know. Radiant_ >|< 07:35, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Pardon me, but I'm not sure what you don't understand about my earlier comment. I created Category:Minneapolis-St. Paul so that is why it is similar to Category:Bismarck-Mandan and the other two.  I would like to see Category:Bismarck-Mandan stay as it is, Category:Fargo-Moorhead stay as it is, and Category:Grand Forks-East Grand Forks become Category:Greater Grand Forks.  I created all three of the categories and, at the time, I picked what I thought were the best names.  I can now see that the larger Grand Forks area is really called "Greater Grand Forks" while the BM and FM areas have no such collective name.  I think we should attach the word "community" to either all or none of the categories.  However, I really don't know why we need the word "community" at all. --MatthewUND 08:14, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep all of them - Bismarck-Mandan and Fargo-Moorhead are quite commonly used. Only the Grand Forks category might have to be renamed, and that would really depend on the area actually coming up with a stable metro name.  You may recall the Dave Barry columns ca. 1998 on the "Grand Cities".  "Greater Grand Forks" is currently in vogue but it's just as likely to change again.  GF-EGF is common enough and is parallel to Bis-Man and F-M.  I don't see any real need for a change here. --Alexwcovington (talk) 08:53, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. As I see it, one reason for including these deals with the U.S. census categorizations of Metropolitan Statistical Areas, and look also  at the fact that F-M and GF-EGF are included in both Category:Metropolitan areas in Minnesota and Category:Metropolitan areas in North Dakota.  That cross-state factor is an additional reason for keeping those two.  If any term is added, I'd suggest that "metropolitan area" would be better than "community" but don't really support either. Gene Nygaard 11:32, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Museums in Korea

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The result of the debate was rename --Kbdank71 14:11, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Rename to Category:Museums in South Korea per category contents. We can always create Category:Museums in North Korea if needed. -- Visviva 16:31, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename. Pavel Vozenilek 20:40, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename. Technically inaccurate in current form. siafu 00:13, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Fictional Character

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:13, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

This was created by an anon to categorize four characters from a book called The Sword of Truth. It does even that poorly, as we have a Category:Sword of Truth that includes all of them alrerady. Aside from that, there's the capitalization error, so it should go. Delete. --Dmcdevit 04:57, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy del incorrect spelling capitalization I mean, should cover speedy. On top of that, delete out of redundancy.  <> Who ? ¿ ?  05:34, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * RENAME to Category:Sword of Truth characters, and categorize under the appropriate subcategory of Category:Fictional characters 132.205.45.110 06:49, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Redundant.  --Kbdank71 14:55, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Pavel Vozenilek 20:39, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete redundant. -Splash 01:02, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Scottish rugby teams and Category:Japanese rugby teams

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The result of the debate was rename --Kbdank71 14:17, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Should be renamed Category:Scottish rugby union teams and Category:Japanese rugby union teams. 'Rugby' might be used to mean 'rugby union' in Scotland / Japan but this is not universal and the sport of rugby league is quite different from Rugby union. As it stands it would be correct to put a rugby league team into this category and that would be nonsensical. Similar categories e.g. Category:English rugby union teams already include the vital 'union' word.GordyB 20:19, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename per nomination. -Splash

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Category:Rugby union IRB members

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The result of the debate was rename --Kbdank71 14:19, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Should be renamed Category:Rugby union governing bodies. 1) It's more obvious, if you don't know who the IRB are you don't know what the category is for. 2) At present an article on the IRB is a member of this category, they are a governing body but they are not members of themselves.GordyB 20:40, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:List of entertainers who performed in blackface

Joni Mitchell
Does this count as a "performance"? She appeared in that guise on the cover of the album Don Juan's Reckless Daughter. Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:19, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes. She was quite proud of pulling off the act, which she did repeatedly, and it's a good story. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:37, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2021
Laurence Olivier performed as Othello in film and stage. 136.32.24.232 (talk) 13:53, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lemonaka (talk) 00:03, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

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24.47.214.18 (talk) 00:18, 5 August 2021 (UTC) Krysten Ritter in the 2012 film 'Vamps' does blackface. Here is a picture https://twitter.com/luna__poo/status/1423017216426061827.
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. To clarify, we need secondary sources stating that she did blackface, not a random tweet of an image with no context. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:28, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Betty White
I think we'd need to have a pretty careful examination and weighting of sources before including Betty White. The cited source says Rose and Blanche happen to be giving each other mud facials - so when the couple walks through the door, the surprised Golden Girls are caught sporting a variation of blackface. Rose says, "This is mud on our faces. We're not really Black." Vulture goes with First, the “blackface” isn’t blackface at all. There are other sources all over the place that would need examination before we can proceed. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:54, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

 * The article in Vulture is clearly an opinion piece, as the author continually gives us their personal views, and so that's a weak source. The plain fact is that the episode was pulled for this reason and this is quite notable, being covered by numerous sources such as CBC which describes this as "a variation of blackface".  It's clear that a racial joke was being made and so the listing seems quite appropriate and similar to many others in the list. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:35, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hulu has removed an episode of The Golden Girls that contains a scene in which Betty White and Rue McClanahan are mistaken for wearing blackface. a 1988 episode of “The Golden Girls” in which two characters allude to blackface. The controversial scene comes when two of Dorothy's friends — Rose, played by Betty White, and Blanche, played by Rue McClanahan — are trying out a mud face mask and meet Lorraine's family for the first time.An episode of The Golden Girls has been removed from Hulu, for a blackface joke that features Rue McClanahan and Betty White wearing mud masks... The controversial moment in the episode features Blanche (McClanahan) and Rose (White) wearing mud masks that confuses Lorraine's mom Greta (Virginia Capers), who isn't wearing her glasses, into thinking those were Michael's parents — who, until that moment, she believes is Black.
 * The joke is, specifically, that they're not in blackface, but someone mistook them in blackface. Sources make it clear the performers were not in blackface. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:47, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Variety says plainly that this was "an episode of “The Golden Girls” containing a scene with characters in blackface." And, however, you deconstruct this joke, there were certainly relevant consequences – the episode was pulled and doesn't seem to have been reinstated.  Andrew🐉(talk) 17:19, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Julie Andrews
Does make up to look like a chimney sweep count as black face? Really? I'm all for exhaustive lists but that is really stretching. Can someone with some clout look at that? 120.152.11.210 (talk) 06:40, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

 * In the 1964 film, Julie Andrews, Dick Van Dyke and the child actors pop up a chimney shaft and are seen covered with soot, grease and grime on their clothing and faces, as are everybody in the large chorus of chimney sweeps. As an additional gag. Mary Poppins (Julie) takes out a compact and busily powders her nose, making it even blacker, and even more outrageous. It's supposed to show some prim and proper people being superficially *dirty* for comic effect. Yes, it's quite a stretch to connect this to some racial issue. WHPratt (talk) 04:22, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

 * The entry already had a good citation and I have added another. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:37, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The two sources cited for Andrews are objectively incorrect. Have a look at this one for example, which goes over why Andrews objectively did not wear blackface in Mary Poppins. NotAmberTurd (talk) 13:21, 27 August 2023 (UTC) — NotAmberTurd (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Judy Garland
Judy Garland performs in blackface here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok5R9wDc44k. I am wondering if she has been considered in the past, but wasn't listed because she was a minor at the time, or other mitigating factors. DazzleNovak (talk) 23:57, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

 * Seems like a regular case and hasn't been considered before so I've added it. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:24, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

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Add Robert Webb for blackface in Peep Show series 2 80.0.63.194 (talk) 18:19, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

 * ✅ Lemonaka (talk) 00:02, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

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Add Sarah Chalke for her use of blackface in the Scrubs episode My Jiggly Ball, season 5 episode 4. 2603:9004:6F0:470:B07B:8014:6F49:D5EF (talk) 03:27, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ~ Eejit43 ( talk ) 15:08, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Larry Parks
Larry Parks wore blackface in two films "The Jolson Story" (1946) and "Jolson Sings Again" (1949) 152.97.168.216 (talk) 11:35, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

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Please add Robert Pattinson as Constantine "Connie" Nikas robbing a bank in 2017's Good Time and Benny Safdie as Nikolas "Nick" Nikas robbing a bank in 2017's Good Time Zzigzagg (talk) 17:39, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:51, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Here is a source from the production company that produced the film https://a24films.com/notes/2017/10/connies-fits-in-good-time Zzigzagg (talk) 12:40, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: This seems to be a case of the actors using actual face masks, not blackface, which is a form of makeup usually used to perform caricatures of Black people. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 07:23, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying! Here are a few other sources that specifically refer to it as a form of blackface - since the characters are using it as a form of disguise with the intended use of the mask to portray a different race, Black men, committing a crime.
 * https://mfknzine.com/2020/12/08/good-time-film-showcases-appalling-treatment-of-black-people/
 * https://www.thejc.com/culture/film/review-robert-pattinson-s-new-film-good-time-1.448316
 * https://www.wbur.org/news/2017/08/24/good-time-review Zzigzagg (talk) 19:24, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

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Carrol O'Conner All in the Family S6 E14/15 The baby Allan Melvin All in the Family S6 E14/15 The baby Herb Voland All in the Family S6 E14/15 The baby Lachessiss (talk) 23:32, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

 * ❌ it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Meltdown reverter  (talk) 23:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turn signal fluid

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The result of the debate was merge and redirect to snipe hunt. Info is already in snipe hunt, so all that remains is the redirect. -- BD2412 talk 00:06, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Turn signal fluid
An element of bad jokes (not even an entire joke in itself) —Mulad (talk) 04:09, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy Nonsense. royblumy 05:20, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy per royblumy. Dcarrano 06:01, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to snipe hunt, where this sort of joke is covered in more detail. Kaibabsquirrel 15:18, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge per Kaibabsquirrel. StopTheFiling 22:36, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * BJAODNify and delete. It doesn't really fit with snipe hunt.   ral  315  23:52, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * BJAODN an old joke. JamesBurns 04:34, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge/redir to snipe hunt. Radiant_ >|< 09:42, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge/redir to snipe hunt ("turn signal fluid" is already mentioned on said page). FWIW, this is quite clearly not a candidate for speedy deletion. It is not nonsense – snipe hunt or surreal humour are just expanded versions of the same theme. Rl 18:02, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
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Cost the limit of price

"Cost the limit of price" was a maxim coined by Josiah Warren, indicating a (prescriptive) version of the labor theory of value. Warren maintained that the just compensation for labor (or for its product) could only be an equivalent amount of labor (or a product embodying an equivalent amount). Thus, profit, rent, and interest were considered unjust economic arrangements. As Samuel Edward Konkin III put it, "the labor theory of value recognizes no distinction between profit and plunder."

In keeping with the tradition of Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations, the "cost" of labor is considered to be the subjective cost; i.e., the amount of suffering involved in it.

Development
The principle was set forth in Warren's Equitable Commerce (among other writings) and has been called a "mainstay of 19th century individualist anarchism". It was further advocated and popularized by Benjamin Tucker in his individualist anarchist periodical Liberty, and in his books. Tucker explained there are two kinds of Socialisms, one authoritarian (ie. Marx) and one libertarian (Proudhon and Warren), yet what both schools of Socialism have in common is the labor theory of value. Tucker explained Warren's views as so:

"From Smith's principle that labor is the true measure of price – or, as Warren phrased it, that cost is the proper limit of price – these three men [i.e., Josiah Warren, Pierre Proudhon, and Karl Marx] made the following deductions: that the natural wage of labor is its product; that this wage, or product, is the only just source of income (leaving out, of course, gift, inheritance, etc.); that all who derive income from any other source abstract it directly or indirectly from the natural and just wage of labor; that this abstracting process generally takes one of three forms, – interest, rent, and profit; that these three constitute the trinity of usury, and are simply different methods of levying tribute for the use of capital; that, capital being simply stored-up labor which has already received its pay in full, its use ought to be gratuitous, on the principle that labor is the only basis of price; that the lender of capital is entitled to its return intact, and nothing more; that the only reason why the banker, the stockholder, the landlord, the manufacturer, and the merchant are able to exact usury from labor lies in the fact that they are backed by legal privilege ..."

- Benjamin Tucker

Warren put his principle into practice in 1827 by establishing an experimental "equity store", called the Cincinnati Time Store, where trade was facilitated by notes backed by a promise to perform labor. This scheme was exactly that advocated by Pierre Proudhon some years later under the name mutuellisme; however, it is believed that Proudhon developed his ideas independently.

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Wheat rust

Wheat rusts include three types of Pucciniae:

 * P. triticina, wheat leaf rust, leaf rust, wheat brown rust, or brown rust
 * P. graminis, stem rust, wheat stem rust, barley stem rust, or black rust
 * P. striiformis:
 * P. striiformis var. striiformis, stripe rust, yellow rust, yellow stripe rust, or strip rust
 * P. striiformis var. tritici, wheat yellow rust or wheat stripe rust

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American Brands

Fortune Brands was a holding company founded in 1969 as American Brands, renamed in 1997 and split apart in 2011. The corporate headquarters was in Deerfield, Illinois, in the United States. The company had diversified product lines. It announced on December 8, 2010, that it would focus on its liquor business, and spin off or sell other parts of the company including home furnishings, hardware and golf products. The company sold its Titleist and FootJoy product lines to Fila. On October 3, 2011, it split the remainder of its business into two publicly traded companies: Fortune Brands Home & Security and Beam Inc.. On January 13, 2014, Suntory (headquartered in Osaka, Japan) announced it would buy Beam Inc. for about $13.6 billion. The acquisition was completed on April 30, 2014, for about $16 billion and Beam became a subsidiary of Suntory named Beam Suntory.

History
The American Tobacco Company was founded in 1890. In the late 1960s, with health concerns seen as posing an increasing threat to the tobacco business, management decided to diversify into other fields and changed the corporate name to American Brands, Inc. Brown & Williamson acquired the tobacco division in 1994.

Tobacco
American Tobacco Company was the original division of American Brands. American Tobacco was sold to British American Tobacco in 1994.

Insurance
American Brands acquired Franklin Life Insurance in 1979. It sold the company to American General in 1994.

ACCO
In 1987 American Brands acquired ACCO, a holding company which owned several office supply subsidiaries. Stapler manufacturer Swingline, Inc., which American Brands had acquired in 1970, was combined with ACCO. In 2005, the company spun off ACCO to shareholders, and immediately thereafter ACCO merged with General Binding Corporation. This merged company is now known as ACCO Brands.

Golf
The Acushnet Company, purchased in 1976, became American Brands' golf division. It produced golf balls, shoes, and clubs under the Pinnacle Golf, Titleist, FootJoy and Cobra Golf trademarks. The Acushnet Rubber division, which was Acushnet's original business, was sold off in 1985. Cobra Golf was sold to Puma AG in March 2010, and the other golf brands were sold to Fila in 2011.

Home and hardware
The home and hardware division reached annual sales of over $4 billion, from Waterloo Industries, Moen faucets, Fypon, Therma-Tru doors, Simonton windows, Master Lock, American Lock, and Vista Window Company, Western Division. Many of these operations passed to Fortune Brands Home & Security when the company was split.

Spirits
Fortune Brands had a stable of well known spirits brands, led by Jim Beam, which it had purchased in 1968.

In July 2005, Fortune Brands and French spirits company Pernod Ricard acquired over 25 additional spirits and wine brands from British holding company Allied Domecq. In November 2007, Constellation Brands announced a purchase of Fortune Brands' wine operations for $885 million USD, a transaction that added 1500 acre of vineyards, several major brands such as Clos du Bois, and 2.6 million cases per year of "super-premium" class wine production.

After the other product lines were sold and spun off, the remaining spirits business became Beam Inc.

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Kenneth Brown (pastoralist)

Kenneth Brown (9 August 1837 – 10 June 1876) was an explorer and pastoralist in Western Australia. He was hanged in 1876 for murdering his second wife Mary Ann Brown (née Tindall).

Early life
Brown was born in Oxfordshire, England in 1837, the eldest son of Thomas Brown and Eliza Brown and older brother of Maitland Brown. In 1840, the Brown family emigrated to Western Australia, arriving in March 1841. They initially settled at York. In 1850, the family took up land in the Champion Bay area, where they established Glengarry. However, the following year his father was appointed to an official position as magistrate in Fremantle, and the family moved there, all except for Brown who stayed to manage Glengarry.

During the 1850s, Brown spent most of his time at Glengarry. He was often the only family member there and he eventually was responsible for its management. Although primarily a sheep station, the Browns developed a passion and industry for horse breeding. Over time, Glengarry became one of the most successful racehorse breeding establishments in the colony for thoroughbred race horses and cavalry re-mounts that were sold to India.

Exploring expeditions
Brown undertook a number of exploring expeditions between 1852 and 1863. In 1852, he explored the country behind Glengarry with Major Logue. Two years later, he was a member of Robert Austin's expedition of 1854. On that expedition, he shot and collected the type specimen of the Australian night parrot (Pezoporus occidentalis) on break-away ranges north west of Mount Magnet near Mount Farmer. In 1859, he explored the higher reaches of the Murchison River with William Dalgety Moore to look for new land. In June 1862, he again explored up the Murchison, this time with Thomas Burges.

In 1863, Brown was part of an expedition to the Glenelg River. The explorers also included the naturalist Dr James Martin, Brown's brother Aubrey, Samuel Hamersley, and B. D. Clarkson, and was financed by a group of pastoralists including Brown and his brother, Hamersley, and L. C. Burges senior. The following year, Brown and other people associated with the expedition sued Burges and others, seeking money they believed was owed to them. The case was eventually settled out of court.

First marriage
In 1859, Brown married Mary Eliza Dircksey Wittenoom. They had four surviving children (Blanche, Edith, Forrest, and Clarence). Mary died in 1868 during child birth.

Failed partnership with his brothers
In June 1863, while away on the Glenelg River expedition, Brown's father died, and the brothers formed a partnership under which they managed Glengarry—Messrs K, A & M Brown. Over the next decade, the Champion Bay area suffered severely from drought, wheat rust and sheep scab. By 1871, Glengarry was heavily mortgaged and running at a loss.

Melbourne Cup contest
In 1872, Brown withdrew from the partnership, was paid out approximately £7,500, and left the Colony. He re-located to Melbourne, Victoria to continue his horse-racing pursuits. He was the first Western Australian to enter the Melbourne Cup but his best horse at the time, Victorian, finished fifth last in the 1873 Melbourne Cup race. Of his time in Melbourne, Peter Cowan (1988) wrote:"He apparently began to lose considerable sums, he became increasingly restless, and drank heavily. His behaviour from this time became erratic. He was given to outbursts of temper, compounded, and perhaps in part caused, by drinking."

Second marriage and murder
While in Melbourne, Brown married Mary Ann Tindall (born 1849). They re-located to New Zealand and for some time operated the Courthouse Hotel in Thames (outside of Auckland). In the years 1874 and 1875, they had two children, Rose and Amy. In Thames, Brown showed a range of anti-social behavior that included two court appearances for assault on a local shop keeper and threatening to kill his wife. The family returned to Western Australia in September 1875, by which time the marriage was in trouble, and there are a range of further references to them constantly and openly quarrelling. On their return journey from Melbourne to Fremantle, the couple had a physical altercation that was witnessed by John Forrest. The couple and their children arrived in Champion Bay in October 1875. During this time, Brown continued to show a range of anti-social behaviours, and, on Monday 3 January 1876, during the process of packing up their house to move to other accommodation, he shot his wife dead.

Trial and execution
At trial, he elected not to provide any explanation or excuse for his actions and his legal team mounted a defence based on diminished responsibility. The prosecution succeeded in proving the charge at the third trial (the first two trials resulting in hung juries). Brown was found guilty of wilful murder and sentenced to death by the Chief Justice Archibald Burt and hanged on 10 June 1876 at Perth Gaol. The record of inquest proclaimed by Police Magistrate E Landor states that Brown died by hanging.

Rumors of survival
Many years later, Rose Burges, the eldest daughter of Brown's second marriage, claimed that while travelling in America she had met her father in a hotel. Because of this, a story persists that Brown's older brother had arranged Brown's escape to the United States. This is considered as improbable, and there is a newspaper report describing how Maitland Brown stood next to Brown on the platform when the bolt was drawn and that Brown's body had to be cut free from the rope and was later buried by relatives, possibly at Guildford (where his mother resided at the time).

Legacy
Brown's second child by his first marriage was Edith Cowan (nee Brown). Edith's grandson was Peter Cowan, a celebrated Western Australian author who wrote detailed biographies on Maitland Brown and Edith Cowan. Julie Lewis has suggested that Brown's life and death:"is to some extent responsible for Peter Cowan's biographical method and also the motivating force behind some of his fiction. The effect of isolation, of a hostile environment, of grief and emotional deprivation on a person's spirit and the ways in which an individual reacts to these things - mostly in control, but occasionally showing uncharacteristic violence – are recurring themes – for example – 'The Empty Street' – a man driven by unseen forces reacts with violence."

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New Way to Be Human

New Way to Be Human is the second studio album by the band Switchfoot. It was released on March 11, 1999, under independent label re:think Records, which was distributed by Sparrow Records. The song "Only Hope" was featured in the movie A Walk To Remember, and the tracks "New Way to Be Human", "Something More (Augustine's Confession)", and "I Turn Everything Over" received substantial play on Christian radio. The song "Let That Be Enough" was featured in the Disney television movie Model Behavior and in the television series Dawson's Creek. "Sooner or Later" appeared on the soundtrack to Elektra.

Book
A book of the same name has also been written by producer Charlie Peacock. The intro to the book is written by Jon Foreman, Switchfoot's lead singer and songwriter.

Lyrical philosophy
Both "Sooner or Later (Soren's Song)" and "Something More (Augustine's Confession)" are based upon the works of philosophers.

"Something More" is based upon a series of books, known as Confessions, that were written by Augustine of Hippo.

About "Sooner or Later", Jon Foreman has said: "Sooner or later we all have to deal with the frightening reality that there is much that is wrong in the world... This is Soren's song... These are his thoughts as best as I understand them," alluding to the philosophy of Danish Christian philosopher Søren Kierkegaard. The song also references Jean-Paul Sartre's idea that men are "condemned to be free".

Composition
The songs are alternative rock/jangle pop based. "New Way to Be Human" has two keys: E major and C Major. "New Way to be Human" has been remixed once.

Personnel

 * Switchfoot
 * Jon Foreman - vocals, guitar, piano, trumpet
 * Chad Butler - drums, percussion
 * Tim Foreman - bass, backing vocals

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 * Tony Miracle - analog synth
 * David Davidson - violin
 * Bob Mason - cello
 * Sam Levine - bass clarinet, flute
 * Mike Haynes - trumpet
 * Mark Douthit - tenor sax
 * Charlie Peacock - orchestration

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i started the cleanup, but not big on the idea of downloading pink film stills at a public net bar to keep going. Nateji77 04:17, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

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There. Added character discriptions (some are a bit brief, I know, and I'm sure I've left out plenty of characters, please add whichever you can think of), information on the award he's won, and some more about the author's style. Personally, I don't think that the rumor about the strip being drawn by Watterson should be included, seeing as Jeff Mallett is definitley a real person (he's drawn editorials and illustrations for books for years, and I've personally had a few email discussions with him) and his style differs somewhat from Watterson's. I read somewhere that he was influenced by Calvin and Hobbs, but a rumor like that is just that: a rumor.

Anywho. Please, please help me with his. Anything you want to add on to, or move around, please do.

As soon as he has a book out, I'll add that too. Hopefully, it will be soon.

''[Talk page created by 70.118.102.215 (talk) at 04:18, 12 July 2005. This chronological note added from History page by Thnidu (talk) 18:16, 3 May 2014 (UTC)]''

We Need to Rewrite the Character Descriptions
Too much of the text in this section is lifted right out of the character descriptions at Comics.com. I'm happy to do the re-write, but it will take some time and would welcome others' efforts, of course.

RE: Calvin and Hobbes. It's enough of an issue that I think it should be addressed; I provided a quote to support the refutation of the rumor. Hope that adds a little bit of flesh.

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Adding debut date
Actually, Frazz debuted on 2 April 2001, but when I put it in, it was instantly deleted ... how can I put this into the article? Janet 01:42, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

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Similarities to Calvin and Hobbes
The current arc (1,2nd,... of may 2006) describes Bedlamball. The game has no rules, no beginning or end. Sounds like Calvinball.

-- That's because it's supposed to be a funny and completely intential jab at the critics who can't get over their plagerism fixation. It's hilarious to see people jumping up and down, pointing at Bedlamball as some sort of smoking gun. I'll bet Watterson even laughed at that one.

 * I agree that it's hilarious; nobody accused Watterson of stealing the idea of Calvinball from M*A*S*H, whose characters played a game of no-rules cards and chess called "Double Krako." Oops.  Digression.  Sorry.  I do want to say that the controversy section of this article is especially well-done.  I like the way this article is taking shape!   Mitchell k dwyer 01:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Really. Mark Harris's "Bang The Drum Slowly" also has the baseball players playing a card game named "TEGWAR" - The Exciting Game Without Any Rules.

 * Frankly, the art in Frazz always looked to me almost exactly like a non-Peanuts comic that was done by Charles Schulz in the early 60's- a one-panel thing that's been collected in some books, called "Young Pillars." (Here:) Carlo 13:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

 * I think the "controversy" section needs some citations. Most of it seems like original research.--Spyderchan 01:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

What do you make of today's strip (Nov 29) in which Frazz claims "I also used to be Bill Watterson's personal assistant."? -- Dharris 15:55, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

In today's strip, Frazz uses the "wagon" bit from Calvin and Hobbes. They are discussing philosophical matters, and it ends in a crash. Sounds very familiar. Too familiar. Arius Maximus 18:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

The entire plagiarism discussion is OR and POV. It doesn't cite sources correctly and consistently uses weasel words like 'to some people.' Plus, why the heck does it *precede* substantive discussion of characters? This doesn't fit the comic strip template at all (see Doonesbury). I move that it be scaled down, moved, and sourced, and then maybe it can be encyclopedic content. Cheers, ParvatiBai 22:25, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

The section needs sources. Period. —ScouterSig 05:15, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Would it help if strips from Frazz and C&H were compared side by side? A lot of the conversations I see between Frazz and Caulfield are extremely reminiscient of Calvin's converstions with Hobbes and his father, with Caulfield taking the place of Calvin and Frazz being Hobbes or the father.
 * And if Hobbes was an imaginary friend (as one interpretation of C&H has it) then it makes perfect sense that Calvin would have grown up to be more like Hobbes, or some blending between the two. --64.134.167.204 (talk) 15:13, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, you can't deny the similarity between the two characters appearence. When I saw my first Frazz comic, I instantly thought it was a C&H continuation, and I still consider it to be one. The continuity and humor style matches too perfectly. 72.235.160.192 (talk) 04:08, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

The spirit of Frazz is very close to Calvin and Hobbes, as is the visual style. No question about it. What's even more impressive is that it's funny the same way that Calvin and Hobbes was. These previous two statements are undeniable---and totally legal and ethical. The strip stands on its own two feet, and if it was strongly influenced by Calvin and Hobbes, then we just have to live with it. (I, for one, and not at all disappointed to find another intelligent, funny syndicated comic strip, and if the cartoonist can pull it off, more power to him.) 129.2.43.165 (talk) 18:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Yes, this. If I have to wander the earth for the rest of my days bereft of new C&H strips, then I am thankful for anything that can remind me of it.  Cobratom (talk) 09:22, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Cobratom

The Frazz was also a 60's-style rock band from Seattle that was very popular in the club scene in the 1980's
The band predates the comic strip by a decade

Character named Kara
In the Controversy section, it is noted that Kara resembles Susie from Calvin and Hobbes. In the Character consistencies section, it is said that Caulfield is the only recurring, named child character. Kara is not mentioned here or in the Recurring characters section, nor anywhere else in the article. Is Kara a recurring character? If so, then she should probably be added to the Recurrent characters section and the Character consistencies section should be modified to include her. If not, then she should be deleted altogether. MDfoo 14:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

 * I have edited the article striking Kara from it. According to the official website, she is not an recurring character, and may appear as a different looking person by the same name in different strips. So any similarities with Susie from Calvin and Hobbes is coincidental. Maybe a recurring 8-year old girl is similar to Susie, but I will leave that to experts of the strip. MDfoo 19:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Unreferenced claims.
In the character description bit, it says a few times that characters where based on previous experiences the author had. This to me seem pretty important bits of the article (and they certainly play a role in the whole bit on the Cal0vin and Hobbes controversy), but they aren't cited. Can one point me in the direction of the source, or cite them? Cheers, Leonard^Bloom (talk) 23:41, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Location
OK, I would like to start the discussion by saying that just because one of Caulfield's story problems is worded, "If it's 28 miles from Novi to the airport and Mr. Smyntek drives the speed limit..." does not mean, by any means, that the comic is set in Michigan. As for the connection between Mallett and the state of Michigan, let me point out that the comic strip is characterized by an unusual number of cultural references.  K im  u  04:31, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

There is only one town called "Novi" in the USA--Novi, MI(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novi). Novi, MI happens to be almost exactly 28 miles from Detroit Metro Airport. Further, Caulfield's reaction to the question is to reference people speeding on I-275, indicating that Caulfield thought I-275 was the way to the airport from Novi. There are only 4 I-275s in the USA; three pass next to airports (the ones in the Tampa, Cincinnati and Detroit areas). Of these, only one is anywhere near a town called Novi--the Detroit I-275 (there is no Novi in TN, OH, IN, FL or KY--the five other jurisdictions with I-275s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-275). Further, the MI I-275 is arguably the most expedient route for getting from Novi, MI to Detroit Metro Airport.  Read in conjunction, this indicates (to me, at least) that both Caulfield and the person who wrote the homework assignment have local geographic knowledge of the Detroit metro area.  The USA portion of the Detroit metro area is almost entirely in Michigan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Detroit), suggesting--not proving, but suggesting--that Frazz is set in Michigan.  The fact that Mallett was both born and now resides in Michigan helps bolster that inference (again, inference, not a proof) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jef_Mallett).  As to your note concerning 'an unusual number of cultural references', I would pose that there is a distinction between (a) references to nationally-known literary and cultural figures and concepts, and (b) location-specific geographical references to details of portions of the Detroit environs which are not (as far as I am aware) well known outside of that metropolitan area. I'd note that other Frazz strips also show Michigan references (E.g. http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.arts.comics.strips/2005-10/msg01582.html [references to Yankee Springs],  http://www.ospreydesign.com/foreword/archives/000866.html [7-18-04 strip shows map of Ann Arbor, MI], http://jurisjournal.blogspot.com/2007/04/frazz-comic-strip.html [9-6-04 strip shows Frazz wearing U. Michigan-Flint t-shirt], July 19, 2004 strip shows Frazz wearing a "Vernor's" t-shirt [bearing the logo of a soda brand up until recently strongly--although not solely--associated with metro Detroit area (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernors)]). One-Off Contributor (talk) 06:05, 5 December 2008 (UTC)One-Off Contributor

 * All of which is very interesting, but falls under Original Research. What we strive for here is referenced material, which is why we can't just add "Frazz is set in Michigan because of (above arguments)" to the article.  -- LarryMac  | Talk  16:09, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

 * The hints On-Off Contributor mentioned are interesting (and quite clever), but I don't think they are sufficient to declare the strip location as Michigan. The author hasn't ever declared a location, in a somewhat Simpson-esque way, and that's probably enough. The road names and distances are dispositive, and the mention of Vernors soda doesn't mean a thing. (It has been available in dozens of states for years.) I recommend removing the references to Michigan. - Peter (talk) 22:44, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Any objections, then, to a compromise position for now, say something like "While Jef Mallett has not formally identified the setting, he often drops Michigan references into his strips (for example, on Frazz's t-shirts)."? One-Off Contributor (talk) 21:43, 6 December 2008 (UTC)One-Off Contributor
 * None here!  K im  u  18:00, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, the location, as cited in the September 20, 2008 strip (available on Comics.com) is Rodney, Michigan. Rodney because it is expressly mentioned in that strip, and Michigan because of Mallett's personal history and the repeated Michigan references. JKBrooks85 (talk) 08:26, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The April 10, 2001, strip shows that Rodney is in a state beginning w/ M, and that Caulfield's address is in Rodney. GeorgeTSLC (talk) 17:49, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

The Jan 3, 2009 strip shows Frazz and Caufield overlooking the skyline of Mallet's hometown of Lansing, MI, looking south from an imaginary vantagepoint (there is no sledding hill at the point they are standing in the strip). The three smokestacks on the right are the Eckert Power Station, and the single smokestack in the middle with the odd bulge at the top is the "worlds largest lugnut", across from Oldsmobile Stadium. 216.157.197.218 (talk) 20:38, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

The April 27, 2011 strip indicates that the strip is located outside of the Pacific Time Zone, alluding that Mr. Spaetzle did "stay up for both games of a West Coast doubleheader." One-Off Contributor (talk) 14:44, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

The May 4, 2011 strip shows another character discussing the fact that a town called Huntington Woods does not have a train station or railroad tracks. The only town called "Huntington Woods" presently listed in Wikipedia is in Michigan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huntington_Woods), in the Detroit suburbs, and in fact does not have either railroad tracks or a train station, although the adjacent town of Royal Oak, MI does have both (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Oak,_Michigan). One-Off Contributor (talk) 15:44, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

I have edited the links in the 3 preceding paragraphs to go to the dates cited at gocomics.com. The existing links to Yahoo news and comics.com were each redirected to the current week's strips at gocomics instead. I trust this is not considered inappropriate interference w/ others' posts. (I do restrain myself from fixing mere typos in other's posts, tho not in my own. If I notice the latter.) GeorgeTSLC (talk) 18:02, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Recurring Characters
Are Mr. Uhrmann and Mrs. Trevino really recurring characters? I found the series of strips in Feb 2003 when Mr. Uhrmann substitutes for Mrs. Olsen. Frazz tells Caulfield that he had substituted earlier, but was that "off screen" or actually in the strip? What about later appearances? I also found a single strip mentioning Mrs. Trevino on May 5, 2003. Any other appearances? Fladrif (talk) 20:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

 * I found other instances of Mrs. Trevino, including the Tamale day Sept 11-14, 2001. Fladrif (talk) 13:18, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Found the earlier Mr. Uhrmann strip which is apparently referernced in the Feb 03 series (2/19/02)Fladrif (talk) 15:07, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Colorization
Not sure if it matters, but it appears the daily strips started being colorized in March 2003. First one here: http://www.gocomics.com/frazz/2003/03/18 ~Amatulić (talk) 01:40, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Quotation?
The following sentence in the Style and Theme section reads like a quotation:

"He reads everything from Milton to Hiaasen to bike racing magazines, he writes, he races, he’s an athlete, and he’s a songwriter, discovering the value of a day job. When songwriting started going well, he kept his custodian job because it was the perfect environment for discovery through the energy and interest of the students."

However, I can't tell whether it actually is one because the citation link is no good. If it is a quote, it needs to have quotation marks and be attributed to the source. Tad Lincoln (talk) 05:32, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

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Church innovation
Unencylcopedic, POV. Delete. maclean25 04:19, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above. royblumy 05:20, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, neologism, personal essay. Dcarrano 06:02, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
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Flight Surgeon Badge

The Flight Surgeon Badge is a military insignia which is issued to personnel who are qualified as military flight surgeons from various countries.

Badges include:
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The Legend of Chin

The Legend of Chin is the debut studio album by the American alternative rock band Switchfoot. It was released on June 17, 1997 under independent label re:think Records, which was distributed by Sparrow Records.

The album is titled after Jon Foreman's high school best friend, Willis Chin, whose photos and birth date are printed on the album booklet.

Promotion and subsequent releases
An official music video was released for the song "Chem 6A". In 2009, it was published on the official YouTube channel of EMI. As of October 28, 2016, it has had over 130,000 views.

In 2004, Switchfoot released a 3-CD compilation entitled The Early Years: 1997-2000, which encompassed their first three albums, including The Legend of Chin. In 2008, "Concrete Girl" was included on the band's greatest hits collection, The Best Yet, and "Chem 6A" was included in the Deluxe Edition Bonus DVD of The Best Yet.

Impact
While the album never officially charted on Billboard, tracks from Legend of Chin were revitalized on subsequent Switchfoot projects. Most notably, the song "You" was featured on the soundtrack of 2002 movie A Walk to Remember, starring Mandy Moore and Shane West.

Critical reception
The album got a positive review from Billboard, which called it "An intriguing and surprisingly mature effort for a debut release."

Mike Rimmer of Cross Rhythms rated the album 7/10 and wrote, "They may have taken their name from a surfer buzzword but this ain't no Beach Boys album. Instead, a melodic modern rock style reveals some nifty crisp guitar sounds, raspy vocals and a smattering of memorable songs and there's the problem. So much of this still washes over me and despite the fact I've played it about 15 times, it's still barely getting my attention. (...) Sonically this sounds like a great album – all the right ingredients are in place, but like a good Yorkshire pudding, even the finest ingredients won't be enough if it doesn't completely rise! There are moments when this one is more pancake than pudding. However, overall worth checking out."

Personnel
Switchfoot
 * Jon Foreman – guitar, vocals
 * Tim Foreman – bass, backing vocals
 * Chad Butler – drums, percussion

Additional musicians
 * David Davidson – strings
 * Peter Hyrka – strings
 * Kristin Wilkinson – strings
 * Matt Slocum – strings
 * Eric Darken – percussion
 * Jimmie Lee Sloas – guitar
 * Charlie Peacock – rhodes, trumpet
 * Lucas Eddens – scratching; turntables

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