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Stalker (film)
Thanks for contacting me. Also, thanks for the link to the blog, it was an interesting read. I don't recall that edit specifically (it's been a while and there has been thousands of edits in between), but looking over the diff, it looks like I was cleaning the article overall. If you look to the talk page, the various unsourced statements were moved to this section. To the best of my knowledge, I don't delete large amounts of unsourced statements on sight. I usually move it to the talk page for the main contributors of the article to readd when sources are found. I also do look for sources for unsourced statements I run across, and tag some statements with fact tags when necessary. Remember that anybody can edit, and that when people contribute information, they should include sources to provide verifiability. And don't worry, I'm all for building content on Wikipedia, I developed many articles since my time here. Sourcing is very important to Wikipedia, and I usually do my best to source materials I add to Wikipedia (see the GAs/FAs I have sourced). Out of curiosity, how did you find this revision? If you need further details or clarification, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 04:18, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was to the best of my knowledge. I don't remember every revision I've made (that would take a while to remember!). Usually I do move content to the talk page when I am reviewing an article for GA, where the editors contributing to that article are able to find sources for the information. Looking over this article, I don't remember the exact reason for removing the uncited information, but it was likely because there was multiple occurrences. By providing the information on the talk page, where contributors collaborate on improving the article, an editor best suited for finding the information can assist with sourcing and re-adding the content. It is much better than someone going through and deleting the information and having it lost (unless someone happened to check every revision, such as in your case). By being located on the talk page, the information will always be there for an interested editor to look for including if they are improving the article. Indeed, it is great that people add content to articles, and that is how the encyclopedia grows. However, we can't add just anything. To improve the reliability of Wikipedia, verifiability is very important to ensuring that information is accurate and attributed. We don't want people copying-and-pasting information just to build content or because they think it sounds good. Could I have searched for that quote and found a source for it? Most likely, yes. It's possible I could have found sources for the other statements as well. If I did this for the thousands of uncited statements that I run across, I would continuously being looking for sources for articles that are lacking them, perhaps on a topic I know nothing about, or where I am unaware where to find the information. However, a large part of my editing is spent helping with sourcing. I use the resources available to me to find sources for articles I am knowledgeable about. Every part of Wikipedia thrives under different types of editors, and there are many out there completing various tasks. There are thousands of articles here that are tagged with citation needed tags, many dating back to 2007 or even earlier. Like I said, I do like to see reliable sources added to articles, as it does significantly improve the article. Wikipedia can be edited by anybody, and since you found a source, feel free to readd the information with the source. If you need assistance, let me know, and I'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:49, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay, I lost your message in my watchlist. In the future, remember to use an edit summary, as it is helpful for editors looking at your changes. Anyway, if you haven't already, please take a look at Verifiability. As I stated before, information needs to be cited if its likely to be questioned by the reader. I, or somebody else reading the article could think that the quote was made up by somebody, was a mixture of several quotes, was somebody else's quote, etc. It is the responsibility of the person adding the content to ensure that it is verifiable. Editors here, or other readers, are welcome to add a source for a statement, but they are not required/obligated to do so. Let me know if this policy doesn't explain the details you are seeking. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 03:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, can you please state what you find disturbing? Is there something that I need to clarify further? I have clearly provided you an explanation of the moving of the statements to the talk page. I was unaware of the discussion on the WP:V talk page (if you had wanted me to respond there, it would have been beneficial to provide a link when you started the discussion). If you somehow think that I am fighting you on this issue, please remember to assume good faith. I'm busy today, but I'll take a look at that discussion later tonight and weigh in. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 19:44, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for taking so long to get back to you, I've been moving to a new house and have not had an Internet connection the last two days. I added the quote to the article. I had initially assumed you were going to add it and was waiting to do so if you didn't. I guess I tend to follow the "Teach a man to fish and you feed him for life" mentality here, so I'm constantly trying to help others learn the methods and guidelines of Wikipedia so that it can continue to thrive. At some point, I won't be here anymore (who knows when that will be), and I would rather leave hundreds of editors here to take my place and help keep Wikipedia going. Unfortunately we are always losing dedicated editors who do cleanup for the additions of others, but then again, we are fortunate to get new editors to replace them. With Wikipedia still in its early stages, it will be interesting to see how it continues to grow. Anyway, I apologize if I was not able to adequately address the issue you raised. I do not interpret my action as an error, but recognize that I am capable of readding the material to the article, and have done so. I do appreciate your raising my attention to this (I really don't remember making this edit), and I'll make sure to provide clearer edit summaries in the future. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 02:48, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

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I refer to your comments on the Indo page: "Instead of bashing the Japanese, the editor might want to provide more information on the subculture of "Indo's". we have our own flag now, we have our own customs and gave the netherlands the pasar malam and some culture." Well, here is your chance! It would be great if you could contribute more to this topic particularly if you have information. CHeers and happy editing. Let me know if i can be of assistance. Merbabu 06:47, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

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Alfora is the nickname of my real name Alexander Forst-Rakoczy. In case you don't see the connection to it, just take the first two letters of each word of my name.

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Look, if you want to add information about Phil Ivey to the article, go ahead, but stop putting that external link there. There is not a lot of content on the about.com page. What content it does have isn't substantially different, or makes statements like [His nickname is] pretty stupid. See relevant policy on external links. CryptoDerk 11:36, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Linguistic purism in English

Anglish Wikipedia
Right. When are we going to start an Anglish wikipedia? Doops | talk 06:48, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I guess you're having a laugh, but were you earnest I would be also. It is a good thought.
 * It's a shame Anglish doesn't have an agreed upon standardized wordstock. I think a wikipedia would be better than the wikia site it has.ClitorusMaximus (talk) 07:45, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Anglish. πr2 (t • c) 23:54, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * sadly that proposal has been denyed, i kinda wanna learn anglisc so an anglisc wikipedia wouldve been usefull Norþhymbrisc (talk) 15:16, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

There is a wiki about Anglish, Anglish Moot. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 14:54, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Outrageous
inn't the word "rage" of latin root?

 * Yes, from RABIDUS/RABIES I think. —IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij  06:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

 * It's a false etymology, though: outrage comes from ultra+–age (compare outré), not out+rage. —Tamfang (talk) 06:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

from Late Latin *ultragium or *ultraticum --LupusInFabula (talk) 11:10, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

"mind" or "brain"
Currently the article states: "Additionally, mind is of Anglo-Saxon origin, so had no need of changing." In context, it implies (to me) that Jennings chose not to use "mind" by his constraints. I would suppose he realized "mind" would be fine to use and realized "brain" fit more poetically. Is it possible to edit the given statement, removing the implication, or should the note simply be removed?

Yep.74.60.93.232 03:08, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Resurrected words
Most of the words on that list are not resurrected at all, but are current, abeit sometimes old-fashioned words. This table needs to be split in two. One for resurrected words(from OE), and one for modern Germanic alternatives to modern Latinate words. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.80.134.205 (talk) 08:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

 * I would say alehouse, allieve, brewhouse, canny, gainweigh, noteful, stead, sundry, wend, widdershins and winsome are still in use with the meanings listed here, although maybe it is a regional thing (canny, for example, is particularly used in Scotland). Downcast and fend are still in use but with a slightly different meaning. I'm not sure how the article should be changed, did whoever developed Anglish come up with this list, not realising some of these words were still in use? If so, it might be better to note the fact rather than delete the words. Kaid100 (talk) 22:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Should this list be kept at all? It's getting larger and larger and Wikipedia isn't the right place for a dictionary or an extensive wordlist... so what is to be done with it? Should(n't) it get deleted? — N-true (talk) 11:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

 * I see no problem with it being there, but it might need to be trimmed. However, if there's broad agreement to cut it down, I suggest the words with Wiktionary entries be kept (at least). ~Asarlaí 12:35, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

calques
Should waterstuff be separated from uncleft? German wasserstoff and sauerstoff are themselves calques of the Greek. —Tamfang (talk) 03:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

No, hydrogen means "water-former" while wasserstoff/waterstof is "water-substance" or "water-stuff" so I don't think it is quite a calque. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.72.129 (talk) 15:54, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Doesn't stoff (and stuff, originally) mean 'material (from which something is made)'? —Tamfang (talk) 21:54, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

uh ...
This latest batch of additions looks like OR, particularly in light of the arguments made in the edit summaries. —Tamfang (talk) 06:30, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

 * Agreed - will add notice accordingly. --  the Great   Gavini  19:45, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Added 'longfather' Hi, I'm all new and draften onto wiki. Don't know which wordfield (section) my 'longfather' adding belongs. I'm html unskilled so lots of sorriness for any staffsetting untidiness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwaggmireland (talk • contribs) 03:13, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

 * A bit of nit-picking, but "adding" is Latinate . ;) --  the Great   Gavini  19:45, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

 * True, eke is the word that he is looking for. --AnWulf ... Wes þu hal! (talk) 14:40, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

 * This whole article looks like OR, to be honest. Where is the term "Anglish" used outside of Wikipedia, besides a few internet groups? References, please. Hayden120 (talk) 07:47, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

 * If you're looking for sources, The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language by David Crystal does go into Anglo-Saxon linguistic purism a bit. Apparently it was a notable characteristic of the English Romantic movement in the 19th Century. People like Dickens, Thomas Hardy, and of course Orwell were all involved, but apparently the most avid "saxonmaniac" was William Barnes, who tried to change the lexicon with Anglo-Saxon roots, so birdlore for ornithology, speechcraft for grammar, etc. (I don't know what he would've said for etc.!) Sheavsey33 (talk) 03:24, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * for "etc."?, why "furthermore" or "and-so-further" of course ;) Leasnam (talk) 19:00, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

 * asf ... and so forth. birdlore and speechcraft both stand as words with those meanings those OE did hav grammatic: He leornode grammatican cræft. --AnWulf ... Wes þu hal! (talk) 14:40, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

 * this is exactly the kind of information this article should be based upon. Currently, it is essentially a branch off a non-notable Wikia page. I will do a deep revert of all the OR addition, and move it to a more descriptive title. --dab (𒁳) 12:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

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Move to "English linguistic purism"?
Shouldn't this page be named English linguistic purism rather than Anglo-Saxon linguistic purism? The latter implies that the article is about linguistic purism during Anglo-Saxon (Old English) times. Thoughts? ~Asarlaí 20:59, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

 * Serious linguistic purism involves Old English influences in some way, and "English" could be misunderstood as "of England"... AnonMoos (talk) 06:24, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Then how about Linguistic purism in English? It's accurat, carries no risk of confusion and would match Linguistic purism in Icelandic. ~Asarlaí 17:48, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If ther ar no objections I'll move the page to Linguistic purism in English soon. ~Asarlaí 23:36, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

 * I don't think the two cases are truly parallel -- Icelandic purism is a very active and significant force which has played a role in molding the Icelandic language for at least a century (that's why it's factually "in Icelandic"), while the analogous English purism has mainly been either armchair grumbling by curmudgeonly language pundits, or grandiose but purely theoretical conlang schemes -- neither of which has exerted much influence in the language. There's little purism "in" English as it is actually used... AnonMoos (talk) 14:50, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It don't think it matters how activ the (modern) movement is; Linguistic purism in English is still a much better description of the article's subject than Anglo-Saxon linguistic purism. The latter implies that it's about linguistic purism during Anglo-Saxon (Old English) times, yet the purism movement didn't start until the Middle English period. I should also note that meny of the nativ words we use today didn't emerge until the Middle English period. ~Asarlaí 17:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

 * I really cast a vote for leaving the article title just as it is. The correct modern term for the early English language as spoken ca. 600-1100 A.D. is Old English (not "Anglo-Saxon"), so the possibility for confusion with the current title isn't as great as you think it is -- while your alternative titles would allow for new and greater confusions... AnonMoos (talk) 18:07, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it's obvious this debate will go nowher unless more people pitch-in. Do you think Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Languages would be the best place to advertize it? ~Asarlaí 18:47, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with Asarlaí, "Anglo-Saxon linguistic purism" sounds like a historic linguistic movement during Old English times. (By the way, Anglo-Saxon "is" a synonym for Old English.) We don't call "Dutch linguistic purism" something like "Frankish linguistic purism", or Icelandic purism "Old Norse linguistic purism". This article clearly deals with modern people that want to restore the Germanic wordstock in modern English and is as such not different from modern linguistic purism in other modern languages. As a sidenote, in many languages linguistic purism fails to gain widespread support or influence. Morgengave (talk) 19:41, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This page deals with purifying Modern English. Anglo-Saxon is a popular term and has caught the imagination of people because of its tribal or ethnic connotations. As such, when talking of the topic of English in its early years, linguists will predominantly use Old English rather than Anglo-Saxon. What is more, 'Anglo-Saxon' is considered to disenfranchize other language or dialect groups among the nascent English kingdoms of England). However, considering that we are talking of not Old English but of the modern tongue, then, this page clearly needs to state that in its title. -- Cavallèro Talk  12:56, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * What other West Germanic speaking "language or dialect groups" were there in early medieval England, besides Angles, Saxon, and Jutes? Sorry if you object to the Jutes being slighted, but they've been slighted for many centuries... AnonMoos (talk) 00:04, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Am I in error? I had believed this is Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia, not a site for whimsy and fancy. The academic and factual position is the only one that needs to be taken into consideration. The term 'Anglo-Saxon' is neither accurate or correct and is thus misleading. If this page deals with decontaminating the modern language, then, it should be clearly stated, as User:Asarlaí, suggests; 'linguistic purism in English'.  Cavallèro Talk  14:17, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Whatever -- linguistic purism is really not  IN  English in the same way that it's "in" Icelandic, since in the case of Icelandic it's a mostly successfully-implemented official semi-governmental policy, while in the case of English it consists of grumbling from armchair pundits and unrealistic theoretical conlang schemes without any real influence "in" English. Furthermore, the term "Anglo-Saxon" is used in contemporary contexts in the term White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, the French-influenced way of referring to the inhabitants of the Anglosphere, etc.  And linguists refer to the ancient language as Old English far more than "Anglo-Saxon"... AnonMoos (talk) 18:17, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S. Following a current news story, randomly came across this: -- AnonMoos (talk) 20:30, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Anyone else care to pitch-in? ~Asarlaí 16:34, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

 * Just driving by... half expecting to see Tolkien signposted somewhere around here...--MistyMorn (talk) 12:09, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Did Tolkien ever go out of his way to avoid Latinate words? —Tamfang (talk) 21:56, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I askt for input over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Languages but none has been forthcoming. So, as most of us here support a renaming, I went ahed and moved the article to "Linguistic purism in English". ~Asarlaí 14:49, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Title in anglosaxon rooted words
Linguistic purism is obvious latinism. I find a title like this inappropriate and ironic.

PS What New English for "title" and "inappropriate"?

PPS Being a member of an unofficial staff studying a version of pure Sardinian without Iberic or Italian roots, I support anglo-saxon purism.--Olbia merda (talk) 14:19, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Article titles are not a place for jokes. They should be recognizable, concise, natural, precise, and consistent. --Thnidu (talk) 19:27, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

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abuse of George Orwell
What's a good word for the abuse of George Orwell?

Monosyllabic words in English are associated with a low (common) register. Polysyllabic words are associated with a fancy or high register (science, philosophy, politics). Orwell did not in the least believe that our polysyllabic classical heritage was impure. What he believed is that it was a refuge for obfuscation and dithering among those who wished to conceal their true motives. The whole of botany in the English language is classical; Orwell wasn't stomping around going "out, out, damn flower".

Orwell believed that the polysyllabic should be shunned and eschewed until a justifiable need for semantic niceties rears its ugly head (which rarely happens in common speech, though it happens in the ER all the damned day long).

Orwell was largely speaking toward the abuse of register to deaden comprehension. I don't recall him ever suggesting that the Greek or Latin legacy in the English language was in any way impure.

By claiming Orwell, this article is attempting to make this other motley crew of crackpots seem like less of a fringe movement. Citation needed that Orwell had any dog at all in the purity ring. — MaxEnt 00:49, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

words for nobility are Germanic: king, queen, duke, count, lord, knight, sir
Duke, count and sir are not Germanic in origin. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 20:33, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

 * You're absolutely right. Thanks. deisenbe (talk) 00:58, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure. It's an odd little paragraph to begin with. Not explained why the list should be "kept in mind", i.e. what purpose is served, even once researched and cleaned up for accuracy. The "words for nobility" are actually a mixed bag. At the royal level, king and queen are Germanic, prince(ss) is not. Of the five titles of the peerage, only earl, not mentioned, is Germanic. Duke, marquess, viscount are Latin > Romance, count isn't used for English titles (although countess can be), baron is a bit obscure (perhaps Germanic by way of French, perhaps not). The list of items pertaining to "our (whose?) democratic governments" is accurate with regard to source, but skips over terms such as House (of Lords, of Representatives), concepts as basic as right(s). A nice bit of informed editing and explanatory text might result in something more meaningful. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 16:25, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Citations?
There is not one citation in the entire section titled Impact of native words. Hell, the first citation doesn't even come until the last section of the article! Seriously?! --Mocha2007 (talk) 21:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

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Rosary
Hi, I saw you deleted the reference to Eastern Orthodox as incorrect. I can only say that I know little on the subject of rosary, so you must have had a reason. I see that contradiction comes from the very lead section - rosary => Roman Catholic Church. But the reference in rosary beads section in my idea must have such reference, though with qualifications that it is just a similar tradition, actually I see no difference at all the prayer rope/beads are used for the very same purpose. –Gnomz007(?) 22:01, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I deleted the reference because it was completely untrue. A prayer rope bears some incidental resemblance to rosary beads because both prayer aids are derived from the pre-Christian use of prayer beads.  And the Jesus Prayer as prayed on a prayer rope, bears an incidental resemblance to the practice of the Rosary, because they both involve repetitive prayer.  That's where the similarity ends.  --Matrona 02:01, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for explaining that, I just followed the false lead of many Internet sites mixing traditional Old Belivers(!) prayer ropes with rosary, one even calls it "leather rosary". They basically too fixed on technical side, as I was too.
 * BTW, you may wish to look at prayer rope prayer beads and lestovka articles, suspect you may see some inconsistecies there –Gnomz007(?) 03:27, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you so much! :)  --Matrona 03:33, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

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Progressive nonfluent aphasia

Progressive nonfluent aphasia (PNFA) is one of three clinical syndromes associated with frontotemporal lobar degeneration. PNFA has an insidious onset of language deficits over time as opposed to other stroke-based aphasias, which occur acutely following trauma to the brain. The specific degeneration of the frontal and temporal lobes in PNFA creates hallmark language deficits differentiating this disorder from other Alzheimer-type disorders by the initial absence of other cognitive and memory deficits. This disorder commonly has a primary effect on the left hemisphere, causing the symptomatic display of expressive language deficits (production difficulties) and sometimes may disrupt receptive abilities in comprehending grammatically complex language.

Presentation
The main clinical features are signature language progressive difficulties with speech production. There can be problems in different parts of the speech production system, hence patients can present with articulatory breakdown, phonemic breakdown (difficulties with sounds) and other problems. However, it is rare for patients to have just one of these problems and most people will present with more than one problem. Features include:
 * Hesitant, effortful speech
 * Apraxia of speech
 * Stutter (including return of a childhood stutter)
 * Anomic aphasia (word retrieval failures)
 * Phonemic paraphasia (sound errors in speech e.g. 'gat' for 'cat')
 * Agrammatism (using the wrong tense or word order)

As the disease develops, speech quantity decreases and many patients become mute.

Cognitive domains other than language are rarely affected early on. However, as the disease progresses, other domains can be affected. Problems with writing, reading, and speech comprehension can occur, as can behavioural features similar to frontotemporal dementia.

Diagnosis
Imaging studies have shown differing results which probably represents the heterogeneity of language problems than can occur in PNFA. However, classically atrophy of left perisylvian areas is seen. Comprehensive meta-analyses on MRI and FDG-PET studies identified alterations in the whole left frontotemporal network for phonological and syntactical processing as the most consistent finding. Based on these imaging methods, progressive nonfluent aphasia can be regionally dissociated from the other subtypes of frontotemporal lobar degeneration, frontotemporal dementia and semantic dementia.

Classification
Some confusion exists in the terminology used by different neurologists. Mesulam's original description in 1982 of progressive language problems caused by neurodegenerative disease (which he called primary progressive aphasia (PPA) included patients with progressive nonfluent (aphasia, semantic dementia, and logopenic progressive aphasia.

Management
No cure or treatment for this condition has been found. Supportive management is helpful.

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MAJMUNCINO,NIJE BIO VANDALIZAM JER RADOI NAVIJACI I JESU POZNATI KAO NAJVECI RASISTI:UNITED FORCE,ODRED,DUSAN SILNI.........DEBILU ,PRE NEGO STO NESTO PISES PRVO ZADJI NA STADION DA SE RASPITAS,JER AKO NIKAD NISI BIO NA RADOVOJ UTAKMICI ONDA TI VANDALIZUJES.NEMOJ VISE DA BI MI OBRISAO STA SAM NAPISAO IZ CLANKA O RADU!!!Dzoni 19:14, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but as it indicates on my user page, I don't speak Serbo-croatian, or whatever it is you are speaking. And no amount of shouting at me with big exclamation marks is going to help. Carl Kenner 19:20, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject:Serbia
I hope you'll enjoy contributing with all of us from the project. I have some questions for you, don't be scared, it's just to inform us of your views:
 * Why did you join WikiProject Serbia?
 * The serbia articles are of poor quality and plagued by POV and constant reverts by fervent nationalists. They need some unbiased people to work on them to bring them up to the same quality as other articles. Also there is a lack of articles compared to richer, English speaking regions.

 * What is your motivation in writing and editing Serbia-related articles?
 * People should be able to learn about Serbia and related topics, and contribute to such articles.

 * How much do you know about Serbia?
 * Not much yet. Sorry. My main advantage is that I am not an extremely biased nationalist, and I am not in any way involved in the regional conflicts, and thus can contribute a much needed level of neutrality.

 * How much time are you willing to set aside for the project?
 * I don't know. I've also been working on other Wikipedia stuff (mostly adding Country articles to Vietnamese Wikipedia), and I probably should do some other non-wikipedia stuff sometimes :-).

Please answer the questions in order to verify you have joined the project for the greater good of Serbia-related articles. Thank you,

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Thank you for taking the time to answer the questions. I'm pleased to see that you are showing interest in Serbia-related articles. Although, I'd like to recommend for you to learn some stuff about Serbia, especially about the wars in the 1990s, because, as you have said, we need an un-biased approach to the issues.

Since reading books will take a while, I suggest you watch some of the documentaries available on the internet, especially the ones that Google Video offers. The movie I have to recommend is "Yugoslavia:The Avoidable War, Part 1" and "Avoidable War, Part 2". It's in english, but it has Serbian subtitles, hope you don't mind. Anyways, once again, I welcome you to the project, and hope that we will have fun working on Serbia-related articles. Peace. -- serbiana -  talk  21:39, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Three-revert rule
Please don't revert elections in Cuba again. You've gone way over the three-revert rule. I'll overlook your previous reverts because you're new, but if you do so again, you're asking to be blocked for 24 hours. Ambi 10:37, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I haven't reverted anyone's work (not even once), as you know perfectly well. Please refrain from Vandalism and quit abusing your priviliges. Carl Kenner 10:55, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I've reviewed your block and I see no problem with it, so I've removed the tag. Please stop accusing good editors of vandalism. SlimVirgin (talk) 11:47, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Page moves
Hi Carl. Please remember when renaming pages to use the move function, rather than the cut-and-paste method, as the latter does not keep page histories intact (which, for licensing reasons, is a Bad Thing). Regards, --cj | talk 16:47, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi again. Have a look over Help:Moving a page. You need use the "move" tab above the page.--cj | talk 02:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, found it. Carl Kenner 05:06, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk page
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Vietnam WikiProject
I am told you might be interested in a separate WikiProject for Vietnam, like WikiProject Southeast Asia, I have posted the proposal at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Vietnam_WikiProject Chris 04:16, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Kosovo: country debate
Hello. There's a discussion going on Talk:List of countries as to whether or not Kosovo should be included in that list. You have an interest in Serbia-related articles and I thought you might be interested. The articles List of countries and Annex to the list of countries (where the inclusion criteria reside) are both relevant. Cheers. DSuser 13:38, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It clearly needs to be included, according to the description at the top of the article. It is not controlled at all by Serbia, it is self-governed, with the government organised and backed by the United Nations. Carl Kenner 17:00, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Carl Kenner
Just out of interest are you? ? (your welcome to e-mail me if you would prefer) Nil Einne 15:00, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Looking at your edit history, specifically # 07:09, 20 December 2004 (hist) (diff) Cyberglove (Integrated with related wikipedia articles by other people, added some detail) & # 06:31, 20 December 2004 (hist) (diff) P5 (P5 is a cyberglove by Essential Reality), I'm guess you are :-P Nil Einne 15:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am. Carl Kenner 17:58, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Legal status of Hawaii
Aloha - I hate to ask anyone to look at a rather embarrassing Edit War, but I wonder if you can take a look at this page (and the discussion page) and give me your opinion? The EW has spread to my talk page (and many other pages), where I've been accused of attacking rich white people. I do admit that I did call certain members of one particular anti-sovereignty group in Hawai'i "hypocritical" for being rich and white and waging constant lawsuits against native Hawaiians, who are largely brown and poor. But I don't feel like I'm being offensive, and if I'm wrong, I need to know. I would really appreciate your honest opinion on this, along with any suggestions. Mahalo nui! Aloha, --Laualoha 12:19, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Brotherhood 2.0, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

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Your edits
Please stop falsely marking your edits as minor when they're clearly not. --TheSeer (TalkˑContribs) 13:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Huh? what are you talking about? Carl Kenner (talk) 11:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Philosopher's Stone
You might want to tone down your edit summary a bit from this. The Sorcerer's Stone had been there for over two months, that maybe makes a whole lot of people, including me, who edited it in that time a bit lazy not to have noticed, but i don't think any of us, including the user who did it, would like to be considered ignorant fools. Not only that, it's the only edit that user has made; what if he comes back and sees that summary? Quite an introduction, eh? Cheers, Lindsay 17:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

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Joseph Cao
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 * Your inclusion of the Vietnamese name template shows that you are attempting to push your POV into the article. Virtually all news sources, including Vietnamese-language media, refer to him as "Cao" and not "Anh". DHN (talk) 09:32, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Pholcidae

Reverted organizational changes
Why was http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pholcidae&oldid=234826723 reverted? 207.13.167.2 (talk) 18:14, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

To be specific, those changes removed behavioral traits from habitat information - two completely different things. It also broke the behaviorals down out from one big block of text. 207.13.167.2 (talk) 18:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Venomous?- As an arachnid researcher, I have studied spiders for years. Some how, a rumor got out that the commonly found "Daddy long leg" spider is venomous. However... it is not. The "long legs" doesn't even contain any venom glands either.

Urban legend
I altered the "Misconceptions" entry slightly to better reflect known facts. OzoneO 17:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

London UK I got bitten from a Daddy Long Leged spider(Polocus Phalangioides). The poison swelled up around the leg, and one of my glands. I had to be pute on very stong antibiotics. Yes this is a very rare ocasion, but it does happen. I was letting this spider live in my room. I found it a couple days later after I got bitten, and placed it out side.
 * Antibiotics treat infection, rather than poisoning. ANY kind of skin injury that breaks the surface can lead to an infection, and in this case it happened to be a spider bite. Hardly noteworthy.Snorgle (talk) 12:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I fail to see what the length of fangs has to do with the potentiality of the poison... Great science. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.221.14.187 (talk) 21:24, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Are you sure the swelling was caused by a bite by the spider? I've lived in a flat with literally myriads of them for much of my life, and nobody in my family has ever been bitten by one.--91.148.159.4 (talk) 23:46, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

How about the clever claim that the daddy long legs cannot bite a human because it's legs are too long! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.5.142.39 (talk) 23:24, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Spider-killers?
Can someone give better information about this comment:

"Certain species of these seemingly benign spiders invade webs of other spiders and eat the host, the eggs or the prey. In some cases the spider vibrates the web of other spiders, mimicking the prey to lure the host of the web closer. They are also known to attack and eat other spiders and insects that are much larger then themselves."

I can't give more information but I can cite: The Queensland Museum site says they kill and eat redback spiders. Rocksong 00:55, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Notice these insects are always found in forests, they are purposely put there to eat mosquitos, they are not poisonous and arent found in homeland except for countryside.

 * They're not insects and they are certainly present around my inner suburban home! Perhaps you are thinking of the unrelated insect with the same name - see the clarification in the article introduction. Rocksong 04:27, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

opilionids?
I was reading this other article which described some daddylegs as not being spiders, but instead, they are a seperate order of arachnid... can someone who knows maybe clearify?

According to Bill Nye, Daddy Longlegs have no fangs & venom. Therefore, they aren't spiders. 67.188.172.165 19:35, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Unfortunately, "Daddy Long-Legs" refers to three different creatures. The Opiliones (or harvestmen) is also called the "Daddy Long-Legs", but it is NOT the same as the Daddy long-legs spider. See the Daddy longlegs page which explains the differences. Bill Nye would have been talking about the Opiliones. The Daddy long-legs spider is definitely a spider. Rocksong 00:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Daddy long-legs
Why are they called Daddy long-legs? Where does the "daddy" come from?

Maybe they're the daddy of all legs? (Yeah, bad joke)-- User: Eddy King 17:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC) 17:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

As children we called them "dandy long-legs" but I don't know how widespread this was. From "Dent de ..." perhaps, cf dandylion? --Hugh7 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:32, 21 January 2010 (UTC).

house spider?
"The Daddy long-legs spider, also called the Granddaddy long-legs spider, cellar spider, vibrating spider, or house spider"    - how can it be confused for a house spider (Tegenaria domestica )  -these are totally different

 * If you look at the House spider page, you will see that several unrelated spiders have earnt the name "House spider". I assume the name "house spider" means different things in different parts of the world. Rocksong 05:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

thanks for clarification

what the
Uh, it appears that the writer of this article doesn't actually know what a Granddaddy Long-Legs is. Come on, look at the picture.

If you actually read the article, then you would have seen that some different parts of the world actually call a different arthropod also by granddaddy long legs and lucky for you, you wont have to read because i will quote it:"Confusion often arises because the name '"daddy long-legs"' is also applied to two distantly related arthropod groups: the harvestmen (which are arachnids but not spiders), and crane flies (which are insects)." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.5.158.200 (talk) 07:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Different than picture?
We have what we call Daddy Long Legs here in minnesota, but their bodies are just perfect circles, not these elongated things

 * Perhaps it is the Opiliones (Harvestman)? If you check the Daddy longlegs page, you will see that Daddy Longlegs has a variety of usages. Rocksong 06:03, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Nah, I looked into thoes, I looked around quite a bit and can't find the spider I'm looking for. we have these ones in minnesota that just have small bodies like a small black pea and long long legs... I should get a picture of them some time, I have them all around my basement

 * It's a harvestman, take a look on google and you'll find a picture of it.

These are also located in the Texas/Mississippi Area. Though the body is usually more of a greyish-brown color I believe. I once saw one with apprx. a 3ft leg span standing 1ft tall. But I have no photo evidence to back this up.

 * It is the Opiliones.--91.148.159.4 (talk) 23:49, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Deadly Venom
I heard the same thing about crane flies (which is the insect that we Brits call daddylong legs). Do crane flies have venom, and if so, could this be the source of the myth associated with the spider?--88.109.17.47 22:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Check the Cranefly article for yourself - it's a certified load of crap. 88.110.101.0 11:46, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Could somone change the picture as at 29/04/07 it appears to show a winged insect. /

Uthina Genus?
Hello. The Uthina page has a link pointing here and claims that "uthina" is the name of a spider genus. Do you think it would be appropriate to create a redirect from Uthina_(spider) to this page, or would there be a better target? A few brief web searches (such as here) seem to agree that this is correct, but I just wanted to check with people actively involved in this article first. --Culix 19:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC) /

Playmate Spider
I laugh at the thought of these things being "dangerous". My family has played with them for many a generation. these are probably the most gentle and non-aggressive critters here in Virginia --User:Alucard44 13:25, 12 December 2006 (EST)

The GeoSafari Talking Microscope - Daddy Longlegs slide
Just a note

My son just received the GeoSafari Talking Microscope for Christmas. This is a great toy, but there seems to be a discrepancy. The toy has prepared slides that are 'clicked' into the microscope. When the Daddy Longlegs slide is loaded in, one of the Facts that is stated is that (paraphrasing) "Daddy Longlegs are not spiders". This is a child's toy, so there is just a statement made and no explanation. Based on what I have read at Wiki, this statement is in conflict.

Fitzwiki 13:56, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Sounds like the slide was of the Harvestman. Unfortunately, three different arthropods are called "Daddy Long-Legs". See the Daddy Long-Legs article. The Daddy Long-legs spider - the subject of this article - IS a true spider. Rocksong 04:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

These are not what we call Daddy Long Legs here in Missouri. True spider or not, I cannot say. It has a spherical body, as described by the person in Minnesota. It does NOT make webs. Body is round, about 6-8 mm. Legs are 75-100 mm. They are non-aggressive, and if there is any impact from their bite (if they do bite), I haven't seen it for the last 60 years. My 4 year old granddaughter plays with them if I don't watch her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.86.30.48 (talk) 02:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC) An that is a Harvestman, another anthropod knick-named daddy long legs/ granddaddy long legs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.5.158.200 (talk) 07:26, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Contradiction?
I don't really get this..at the top it says "The Daddy long-leg...is not a true spider", but at the bottom it says "The Daddy long-legs spider is a true spider". If I just somehow didn't understand what it truly meant and it really does make sense, I think this article should be explained differently.

 * The Daddy-Long legs spider is a true spider. There was a misinformed edit done on 1-Jan-07, which I've fixed now. Rocksong 00:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Rename article to Pholcid? (make that Pholcidae)
Judging by the number of confused edits and comments this article gets, perhaps it is time to rename this article from "Daddy long-legs spider" to "Pholcid" or "Pholcids". Anyone else like (or dislike) this idea? Rocksong 04:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

 * It seems that Pholcidae, not Pholcid, would be correct. "Pholcidae" gets more hits on Google than "Daddy long-legs spider", though it may not be fair to compare word hits with exact phrase hits. And I think a rename would be in line with Naming conventions (fauna), which says "Don't use common names when it isn't clear what the name refers to". But still, I'd like feedback before initiating a formal request. Rocksong 05:16, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Whoah, the confusion gets worse. There's also the page Pholcus phalangioides which begins, "The Daddy-Long-Legs Spider (Pholcus phalangioides) is a spider of the family Pholcidae." Rocksong 05:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

 * i moved the page, and reworded the introduction to make it a little bit more exact. --Sarefo 13:25, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Venom?
As an arachnid researcher, I have studied many venomous spiders in my time. Rumor has it that the commonly found "Daddy Long Legs" spider is one of the most venomous spiders in the world. However... I've studied this particular spider a lot, and i will tell you this spider is not venomous. It doesn't even have venom glands. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.33.137.125 (talk) 22:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I love you (for being a smart person[for many people i know believe that it is venomous and its annoying because they say im wrong because they are hard headed]) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.5.158.200 (talk) 07:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I was always told Daddy Long Legs were venomous but that they didn't attack humans. Is there any truth to this?
Can anyone tell me whether or not these spiders are venomous. My 10 year old son and I are debating because he plays with them in our back yard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.188.42 (talk) 18:36, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Daddy long legs in the UK most definitely signifies the adult crane fly. To my mind the fact that this species is termed the 'daddy long legs spider' disntiguishes it from the 'daddy long legs' per se, perhaps implying that there is no 'confusion' as the article implies, but that the designation of the spider (which obviously looks similar) actually refers back to the crane fly - the original 'daddy long legs'? Just a thought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.206.181.40 (talk) 15:02, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

According to the article and http://spiders.ucr.edu/daddylonglegs.html, the spiders are not harmful to humans. Whether the content is still there, the article at one time mentioned that an observer or two (over the course of all time!) had reported being able to tell that they had been bitten by these - to no effect more than a mild tingling. In my opinion, both from observation and from reading the article, these spiders should be treated as familiars on a par with dogs: they're harmless to humans, and actually a benefit as they will attack certain other spiders which are harmful to humans. If your house was full of spiders, these are the ones you'd want them to be. My original interest in these arose when I saw that one of them had killed a common spider I had chased into a longlegs web I thought empty. They seemed too insubstantial to be predators of that kind. (I also disagree that these spiders have no venom, as I watched a longlegs spider "freeze" a moth with a bite in less than one second. Only a chemical could have done that to the moth in so short a time. But I will not argue here with Entomologists ...) In any case, parents can be sure children won't be injured by 'playing' with these spiders. Rest easy.

These are fascinating creatures. Whereas most spiders will flee at the first sign of a disturbance, these behave like "grumpy old men" who don't want to have to get up off the couch. They are extraordinarily tolerant of disturbances to their webs, another behavior that made me curious about them. I had several of these living on my ceiling just an inch from a wall. I painted the wall "around" them - the paintbrush and paint adjacent to their web - and none of them were bothered at all. I think they "know" they are incredibly survivable, given how little concern they have for being disturbed.

As to their ubiquity, find out how many languages have a word for "cobweb". These are the creatures that create that stuff worldwide.

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 * I don't want people to get the impression that they won't bite humans, however harmless the bite is. Though you may disturb their webs, they are not so tolerant of being handled and not incapable of producing a good pinch. Can be startling if you don't know to expect it. --Saerain (talk) 16:13, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Flimsy legs
Are these spiders known for having particularly flimsy legs? Because my house is FULL of these, and I have seen my fair share of seven- and even six-legged ones. 70.231.247.165 (talk) 18:39, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure how their legs' durability compares, but arachnids in general comfortably autotomize, and these spiders especially. Both pholcidae and the opilionids they're often mistaken for very readily autotomize. --Saerain (talk) 16:39, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Observing the popularity of this page for vandal edits
I'm not that familiar with the amount of vandalism inflicted upon all the various Wikipedia articles, but in observing the edit history for this page I see that various members of the public have liked to deface it, routinely inserting nonsense or apparently trying to insert favoritely held opinions (such as that the spider is in fact dangerous to humans.) This is a "rhetorical observation" - but I have to wonder of what use it is to those who deface the content to do so.

It seems we need a new "branch" page for any article - that would consist of a blog of all the scabrous edits the peanut-gallery would have made. That is, the fact that people enjoy defacing this page so much is itself of some interest. If the children insist upon being children we should make a sandbox for them to play in, and for them to believe they contributed, they'll have to be able to pull up their comments in that sandbox over the web. Title the box "User Comments" rather than the more accurate "Stupid Juvenile Noncontributing Nonsense" and the idea could work.

To be stern but obvious, the vandal-edits should get their authors kicked in the ass (literally.) Preferably by family members.

What is Wikipedia's policy concerning repeat vandal-offenders? I'm so glad people have kept the article clean, but that's extra work nobody should have to do - in a polite and thoughtful society. (Never mind reminding me that we don't live in such a world.)

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The urban legend
As an aside, I'd be interested to hear when users first heard the urban legend stating that "daddy longlegs" (the spider, the harvestman and/or the crane fly) are the most venomous species of spider/arachnid or insect - the reason being that I'm half certain I started it off, having made it up to frighten friends at school when I was a child. I don't remember reading or hearing it anywhere prior to that and I'd rather like to be able to call myself the originator of such a widespread myth, but if anyone heard it before the late 1970s/early 1980s I'll have to accept I can't do so. :-) 188.30.188.84 (talk) 17:46, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

In the UK
I never saw these in the UK before around 1985, when I first saw them in one relative's house. Now you see them everywhere - possibly the most common spider in homes. Are they a recent arrival in the UK which has spread fast? 81.187.1.83 (talk) 05:44, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No. The UK has long-standing populations of pholcids (Pholcus phalangioides, Pholcus opilionoides, Holocnemus pluchei, Psilochorus simoni, etc.), particularly in warmer southern areas of England and Wales. They are are also common in the European mainland. They are synanthropic, which means more houses means more ideal habitats for the spiders. -- O BSIDIAN  †  S OUL  07:32, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * But Pholcus phalangioides has spread within the UK. 10-15 years ago I only saw them when I went to see friends living in the south-west of England. Now they are not uncommon here in the English Midlands, including behind my fridge. Peter coxhead (talk) 22:28, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Climate change. The Midlands are now as warm as Cornwall used to be.  Correctrix (talk) 13:21, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * We had tons of daddy-longlegs in Hampshire in the 60s when scientists were predicting an ice-age. The name "Cellar spider" suggests that it might prefer cold and dark and damp. FangoFuficius (talk) 08:17, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Behavioral Ecology Post
I liked that this article had many subsections dividing broad topics because it made the information easier to digest. For instance, instead of having a large paragraph on behaviors, the article divided this section into trapping, threat response, diet, and gait, which allowed me to better search for specific information. One part I found particularly interesting was the threat response the spider exhibits when disturbed. Three general categories that are missing from this article are mating, reproduction and life cycle, and social behavior. Mating information would provide important details on male-male and male-female interactions that may dictate mating behavior and other forms of behaviors like sexual cannibalism. A section on reproduction and life cycle would give a better overview of lifespan and fertilization, which can vary among species and thus is an important distinguishing pattern. Finally, social behavior can give insight into how this spider interacts and cooperates in groups. The article is part of the WikiProject Spiders and has been rated as B-class on the project’s quality scale and as high-importance on the importance scale. Like with the first two spiders, I would consider this article to be mid-level importance since is covers a specific spider species rather than a general area of knowledge. Delanieludmir (talk) 04:21, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

"Daddy long legs"
Just feel the need to add that cellar spiders typically aren't referred to as daddy long legs. Harvestmen are. Whoever originally started this article, based on the previous entries here, is clearly under a misconception in that regard. Also, whoever said that crane flies, those giant imitation mosquitoes, are or have ever been called or even confused with daddy long legs, is lying to you. [User:anonymous because I never edit wikipedia despite having made an account and don't want to sign in] 6:00AM December 10th, 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.190.252.223 (talk)
 * this is probably a regional thing. "Daddy long legs" is a folk name. Where I lived it meant cellar spider. FangoFuficius (talk) 12:20, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

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Your user page indicates that you were attempting to create a subpage within your userspace in which to house Essays on Metaphysics. However, you inadvertently created the page within the main article space. That is, instead of creating User:David Pierce/Metaphysics, you created David Pierce/Metaphysics.

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David, would you be so kind as to share your opinion concerning my question placed on the talk:language page?  j Virus  08:26, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Care to discuss my question here? What is the difference between language and a language, linguistically that is?  j Virus  23:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

 * It is still not clear whether you are responding to my comments under Talk:Language/Archive_1, where I suggested that a language is to language as a human is to humanity.
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Shark repellent

A shark repellent is any method of driving sharks away from an area. Shark repellents are a category of animal repellents. Shark repellent technologies include magnetic shark repellent, electropositive shark repellents, electrical repellents, and semiochemicals. Shark repellents can be used to protect people from sharks by driving the sharks away from areas where they are likely to harm human beings. In other applications, they can be used to keep sharks away from areas they may be a danger to themselves due to human activity. In this case, the shark repellent serves as a shark conservation method. There are some naturally occurring shark repellents; modern artificial shark repellents date to at least the 1940s, with the United States Navy using them in the Pacific Ocean theater of World War II.

Natural repellents
It has traditionally been believed that sharks are repelled by the smell of a dead shark; however, modern research has had mixed results.

The Pardachirus marmoratus fish (finless sole, Red Sea Moses sole) repels sharks through its secretions. The best-understood factor is pardaxin, acting as an irritant to the sharks' gills, but other chemicals have been identified as contributing to the repellent effect.

In 2017, the US Navy announced that it was developing a synthetic analog of hagfish slime with potential application as a shark repellent.

History
Some of the earliest research on shark repellents took place during the Second World War, when military services sought to minimize the risk to stranded aviators and sailors in the water. Research has continued to the present, with notable researchers including Americans Eugenie Clark, and later Samuel H. Gruber, who has conducted tests at the Bimini Sharklab on the Caribbean island of Bimini, and the Japanese scientist Kazuo Tachibana. The future celebrity chef Julia Child developed shark repellent while working for the Office of Strategic Services.

Initial work, which was based on historical research and studies at the time, focused on using the odor of another dead shark. Efforts were made to isolate the active components in dead shark bodies that repelled other sharks. Eventually, it was determined that certain copper compounds like copper acetate, in combination with other ingredients, could mimic a dead shark and drive live sharks away from human beings in the water. Building on this work, Stewart Springer and others patented a "shark repellent" consisting of a combination of copper acetate and a dark-colored dye to obscure the user. This shark repellent, known as "Shark Chaser", was long supplied to sailors and aviators of the United States Navy, initially packaged in cake form using a water-soluble wax binder and rigged to life vests. The Navy employed Shark Chaser extensively between 1943 and 1973. It is believed that the composition does repel sharks in some situations, but not in all, with about a 70% effectiveness rating.

On the other hand, Albert Tester questioned the idea that dead shark bodies or chemicals based on them could work as shark repellent. In 1959, he prepared and tested extracts of decaying shark flesh on tiger sharks in Hawaii and blacktip sharks at Enewetak Atoll. Tester found that not only did the dead shark extracts fail to repel any sharks, but several sharks had a "weak or strong attraction" to them. Tester reported a similar failure to repel sharks by a 1959 test at Enewetak of "an alleged shark repellent, supplied by a fisherman, which contained extract of decayed shark flesh as the principal component." Research has continued into the 2000s on using extracts from dead sharks or synthesizing such chemicals.

Research
Since the 1970s, there have been studies of how the Moses sole repels sharks, with Clark and Gruber both studying it. it has not found practical use, however, as the chemicals are perishable, and the repellent had to be injected into the shark's mouth to be effective; in nature the substance is secreted on the skin and is thus ingested by sharks when they bite the sole.

Since the 1980s, there is evidence that surfactants such as sodium lauryl sulfate can act as a shark repellent at concentrations of the order of 100 parts per million. However, this does not meet the desired "cloud" deterrence level of 0.1 parts per million.

There have been validated field tests and studies to confirm the effectiveness of semiochemicals as a shark repellent. From 2005-2010, an extensive study on the effectiveness of semiochemicals as a shark repellent was conducted by scientists from SharkDefense Technologies and Seton Hall University. The study's results were published in the scientific journal Ocean & Coastal Management in 2013. The study concluded that the existence of a putative chemical shark repellent has been confirmed.

As of 2014, SharkDefense partnered with SharkTec LLC to manufacture the semiochemical in a canister as a shark repellent for consumers called Anti-Shark 100.

Recently, SharkDefense used the same semiochemicals found in SharkTec's product to reduce shark by-catch by 71% in a government grant initiative. The government agency NOAA released these findings in a report to Congress.

In 2018 independent tests were carried out on five Shark Repellent technologies using Great white sharks. Only Shark Shield’s Ocean Guardian Freedom+ Surf showed measurable results, with encounters reduced from 96% to 40%. Rpela (electrical repellent technology), SharkBanz bracelet & SharkBanz surf leash (magnetic shark repellent technology) and Chillax Wax (essential oils) showed no measurable effect on reducing shark attacks.

In popular culture
The 1947 Robb White book Secret Sea mentions a copper acetate shark repellent developed by the U.S. Navy.

In Batman: The Movie (1966) there is a scene where an exploding shark jumps from the water and grabs Batman's leg while he is hanging on the Batcopter's ladder, piloted by Robin. Batman tries to punch the shark back to the ocean, but it does not affect the shark. He's handed a canister of Oceanic Bat-Spray, making the shark open its jaw and explode.

In a 2015 a MythBusters episode, the hosts Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman used an extract of dead sharks, and were able to drive away 10-20 Caribbean reef sharks and nurse sharks in only a few seconds on two occasions. The repellent used consisted of extracts from other species of shark bodies, and sharks did not return for over 5 minutes on both occasions.

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