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Simple Common Gateway Interface

The Simple Common Gateway Interface (SCGI) is a protocol for applications to interface with HTTP servers, as an alternative to the CGI protocol. It is similar to FastCGI but is designed to be easier to parse. Unlike CGI, it permits a long-running service process to continue serving requests, thus avoiding delays in responding to requests due to setup overhead (such as connecting to a database).

SCGI is a protocol which defines communication between a web server and an application server. This is in contrast to CGI, which is an earlier application (gateway) interface designed to let the application programmer avoid the complexity of sockets and long-running service processes when poor scalability and high overhead are acceptable.

The SCGI protocol leverages the fact that the web server has already parsed and validated the HTTP request, and canonically communicates the request to the SCGI server while letting the application programmer avoid parsing ambiguities and protocol edge cases. This avoids the complicated header-parsing and header-combining rules from RFC 2616, saving significant complexity in the SCGI server process.

History
Neil Schemenauer published the original SCGI protocol specification dated October 2001. He developed the first implementations of SCGI and initially published them in April 2002.

Specification
The client connects to a SCGI server over a reliable stream protocol allowing transmission of 8-bit bytes. The client begins by sending a request. When the SCGI server sees the end of the request it sends back a response and closes the connection. The format of the response is not specifically specified by this protocol, although CGI-equivalent HTTP responses are generally used.

Request format
A SCGI request is the concatenation of netstring-encoded headers and a body. A SCGI response is a normal HTTP response.

Each header consists of a name–value pair, where both the name and the value are null-terminated strings (C strings). The value can be an empty string, in which case the terminating null still remains. Neither name nor value can contain any embedded null bytes. These considerations are standard for C strings, but are often confusing for programmers used to other standards for string-handling.

All provided headers are concatenated to form a single byte sequence, then netstring-encoded. The raw body, if any, is then appended.

Duplicate names are not allowed in the request headers; RFC 2616-compliant header combining must already have taken place. The first request header must have the name "CONTENT_LENGTH" and a value that is the length of the body in decimal. The "CONTENT_LENGTH" request header must always be present, even if its value is "0". There must also always be a request header with the name "SCGI" and a value of "1". Standard CGI environment variables should be provided in SCGI headers for compatibility when converting older CGI programs to SCGI. The body (if any) provided in the request follows the headers; its length is specified by the "CONTENT_LENGTH" request header.

While the SCGI protocol insulates the service programmer from some HTTP considerations, various details (such as interpreting the octets of the message body as per the Transfer-Encoding header, the CONTENT_LENGTH being the number of octets after the body has been encoded for transmission, etc.) still require knowledge of the HTTP protocol specification.

Example
The web server (a SCGI client) opens a connection and sends the concatenation of the following strings to the service process (a SCGI server):

"70:"           "CONTENT_LENGTH" <00> "27" <00> "SCGI" <00> "1" <00> "REQUEST_METHOD" <00> "POST" <00> "REQUEST_URI" <00> "/deepthought" <00> ","       "What is the answer to life?"

The SCGI server sends the following response back to the web server:

"Status: 200 OK" "Content-Type: text/plain" ""        "42"

The SCGI server closes the connection.

Web servers that implement SCGI
(this list is not complete)
 * Apache HTTP Server
 * Cherokee
 * Lighttpd
 * Microsoft Internet Information Services with ISAPI SCGI extension
 * nginx
 * Althttpd

Language bindings for the SCGI API
SCGI can be implemented in any language that supports network sockets and netstrings. The following is a partial list of languages with known SCGI bindings:
 * Cobra
 * D, with the arsd.cgi library
 * Emacs Lisp, with the url-scgi library
 * Haskell
 * Java, with the SCGI connector or with the library
 * Lisp
 * Perl, with the SCGI package or Plack framework
 * PHP
 * Python
 * Racket, with the scgi library
 * Ruby
 * Rust, with the tokio-scgi crate
 * Scheme
 * Tcl
 * Nim

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fitnesse

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus to delete (three votes either way ignoring the multiple sockpuppet votes) -- Francs2000 | Talk 11:31, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Fitnesse
Dead link, nn advertising. humblefool® 15:57, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete though the link is now working, it is still nn advertising. Difficult to Google for (they're not the only ones to think of this 'word'), but their Alexa rank is 395,000. -Splash 17:54, 25 July 2005 (UTC) Keep the rewrite, but give it an expansion tag. -Splash 17:28, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ad; but not necessarily nn. It's technically notable for automating acceptance tests in a format accessible to non-programmers (Ward Cunningham's FIT framework), and then organizing those tests in a Wiki format (Fitnesse), and it's generating interest by being featured in the "Apprentice" series of articles in Software Development. I'd suggest adding a reference as an external link to the extreme programming page, similar to JUnit and NUnit links elsewhere. (new user) Leifbennett 21:25, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep It's open source software, so it's tough to call it an ad. Fitnesse is a word in the agile development community. If you don't want it on the wikipedia, that's your choice, but it's something that the software community needs to know about.
 * Above vote by 67.185.81.16
 * This is why we have VfD: I'd vote to keep if someone who knows this can rewrite it so that the article has more than mild-advertising in it. -Splash 01:48, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep This is a brilliant framework and has really started changing the way developers, testers, and customers think about project development and requirement gathering. A terrific addition to the Agile community.
 * Above vote by 70.89.160.29

 * Keep This is a very important tool for agil software development. Thus it should not be deleted!
 * Above vote by 217.194.34.124

 * Keep FitNesse is one of the best frameworks for customer tests and is wildly admired within the agile developement community.
 * Above vote by 217.204.123.75

 * Keep FitNesse is a really interesting concept for testing software and I can not see how this article is an ad. If you think this is an ad, why keep articles about Linux or even Microsoft (with a trademarked logo and a "mission statement", which sounds like sth. from Scientology BTW)?
 * Above vote by 217.72.192.194

*Expand, merge or delete as it doesn't say much now and all these anonymous votes for keep suggest a bit of self promotion is going on... however I now vote keep following recent edits. Garglebutt 13:59, July 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep I use FitNesse (built on Ward Cunningham's Fit testing library) to help test an application. I think the entry should be kept (as should entries on Java, Perl, JUnit, etc.).
 * ''Above vote by QuasiJoe 16:44, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. I wrote very basic description of what it is (more and better info is welcomed). It should be renamed to FitNesse. Pavel Vozenilek 17:21, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * That's much better! I'll change my vote. -Splash 17:28, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. Very handy tool. Important to agile development

 * Keep. FitNesse.org is a legitimate software testing tool Wiki site. It however has been spammed recently and needs cleaning up - Barry Gaunt (Moderator at http://www.javaranch.com)

 * Delete sockpuppet-bait Saswann 18:09, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. The tool is free so the page cannot be considered an advertisement.  The is a very popular open source project that has a wide distribution and an active user community (fitnesse@yahoogroups.com).  Robert C. Martin (Contributor to FitNesse)

 * Delete. Just because the framework is good and open-source does not mean it should be added to Wikipedia. The article and the votes on this page clearly shows this is promotion for this software. --Sleepyhead81 19:05, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.

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Rocket Racer

Rocket Racer is the name of two superheroes appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The first, Robert Farrell, first appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #172 (September 1977). The second, Henry Sleeman, debuted in Amazing Spider-Man (vol. 2) #13 (January 2000). The characters are also supporting characters of the superhero Peter Parker / Spider-Man and the Avengers Academy.

Concept and creation
Robert Farrell was influenced by the popularity of skateboarding during the '70s while his headgear resembles AM/FM radio headphones.

Publication history
Robert Farrell debuted as a super-villain in Amazing Spider-Man #172 (September 1977), created by writer Len Wein and artist Ross Andru. He later appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #182-183 facing the Big Wheel. His origin was finally revealed in Spectacular Spider-Man #104. He appeared as a supporting character in Avengers Academy #21 & 26 (January-April 2012).

Henry Sleeman debuted in Amazing Spider-Man (vol. 2) #13 (January 2000), created by writer Howard Mackie and artist John Byrne.

Robert Farrell
The first Rocket Racer is Robert Farrell. Created by writer Len Wein and artist Ross Andru, the character first appeared Amazing Spider-Man #172 (September 1977).

Robert Farrell, born in Brooklyn, New York, was the eldest of seven children. He became responsible for his younger siblings when his mother Emma Johnson Farrell became ill. Robert was a scientific prodigy, and when he realized he could not earn enough to support his family, he turned to a life of crime as the Rocket Racer. He developed a super-powered skateboard, which is propelled at great speed by small rockets and cybernetically controlled by a crude walkman-like device. He wore a weapon-equipped costume, including rocket-powered gloves which give him the ability to hit an opponent with a "rocket-powered-punch."

Early in his career as a burglar, Rocket Racer encounters Spider-Man.

Rocket Racer hires the Tinkerer to redesign his skateboard after his first defeat by Spider-Man. At one point, he is hired by Jackson Weele to steal evidence that might be incriminating. Robert uses the evidence to blackmail Weele who wishes to commit suicide but Robert stops this. Even then, though, he mocks Weele as Big Weele. This is enough for Jackson to hire the Tinkerer to create a literal Big Wheel to chase Robert around town with. Spider-Man assists and Weele seemingly falls to death in the Hudson River. Later, Rocket Racer was saved by Spider-Man from the Bounty Hunter.

Repeated defeats at the hands of Spider-Man and several brushes with the law, including a short jail sentence, convince Robert to reform. He goes through a high school equivalency course and his extremely high marks gain him a scholarship to Empire State University. This does not go well as his first few days are full with combating the efforts of a hate-group on campus. Though assisted by Spider-Man and sometimes, by other students who oppose the racism, Robert still struggles with his own rage during the entire ordeal.

Later, Robert attempted to prove Spider-Man innocent of a crime; and first encountered Silver Sable and The Outlaws. He joined forces with Spider-Man to stop the white supremacist, Skinhead. He was hired as a freelance operative for Silver Sable International to prevent two youths from stealing the victims' weapons at the Bar with No Name, the site of the Scourge massacre. He was again hired by Sable to stop the Speed Demon. He joined Spider-Man and the Outlaws against the Avengers and the Space Phantom. He was again hired along with the Outlaws to retrieve a Symkarian nuclear device in England. He was hired by Sable to stop a runaway subway maintenance robot. Rocket Racer finally formally joined the Outlaws, to rescue the kidnapped daughter of a Canadian official.

Rocket Racer briefly joined Tombstone's prison squad along with Big Ben and Hypno-Hustler where they provided Tombstone some protection at the time when he went under a heart bypass.

Robert is identified as one of the 142 registered superheroes who appear on the cover of Avengers: The Initiative #1. As a registered hero, he reported to Camp Hammond for training. Despite this, he needed money to support his comatose mother and prevent repossession of their house, so he was seen working for MODOK. He appeared to have been tempted back into crime, and reduced to a state of stuttering nervousness by the situation. He turned out to have been working for S.H.I.E.L.D. all along, with a deal that they will give him the money he needs in return for the Hypernova, yet he failed and it is unknown what happened to his mother.

Rocket Racer is part of the new class of students when the Avengers Academy moves to the West Coast Avengers' former headquarters. Rocket Racer later leaves the Avengers Academy alongside Machine Teen to join child genius Jeremy Briggs.

Henry Sleeman
The second Rocket Racer is Henry Sleeman. Created by writer Howard Mackie and artist John Byrne, the character debuted in Amazing Spider-Man (vol. 2) #13 (January 2000).

Henry Sleeman was hired by an unnamed employer to befriend Robert Farrell and steal the Rocket Racer gear. He did so, taking the name "Troy" and posing as Farrell's friend for months. When Farrell finally showed him where the gear was kept, "Troy" tied Farrell up and stole it, pursuing Spider-Man with the intention of fighting, only to be defeated when restaurateur Harry Sloane opened a door at just the right time for 'Troy' to run into the door and knock himself unconscious.

Powers and abilities
Robert Farrell does not possess superhuman powers but has a gifted intellect. He wears gauntlets furnished with explosive mini-rockets, and utilizes a cybernetically-controlled, rocket-powered magnetic skateboard, which he designed and was later redesigned by Tinkerer.

Reception
Dalton Norman of Screen Rant called Robert Farrell one of the most interesting characters to debut in Spider-Man comic books.

Other versions
An alternate version of Rocket Racer appears in Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane. He is a socially withdrawn patsy of the supervillain called 'The Tinkerer', and his rocket gear is simply used to showcase the man's technological genius to potential clients.

In other media

 * Robert Farrell / Rocket Racer appears Spider-Man, voiced by Billy Atmore. This version is a teenager living in a crime-ridden neighborhood who is in constant trouble with the police and lives with a single mother whose store is constantly harassed by criminals demanding protection money. Despite this, Farrell works at the Science Center and studies under Peter Parker to develop his skill in gyro mechanisms. Using these and stolen technology from Jackson Weele, Farrell creates a cybernetically controlled, rocket-powered, magnetic skateboard to help his mother as the Rocket Racer. After being framed for a crime he did not commit however, Farrell is pursued by Spider-Man before they are both attacked by Weele. Spider-Man and Farrell join forces to defeat Weele before Farrell vows to use his scientific skills to help his mother instead.

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User:Mobius1ski

I used to be somebody.

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Talk:Tonality

Modes
"The tonic can be a different tone in the same scale, when the work is said to be in one of the modes of the scale>"

This is a complicated way of introducing the non-tonal modes, and in my view it comes far too early in the article. It's likely to confuse readers. Tony (talk)  10:44, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

 * I agree with this. In addition, the sentence before said "the single pitch or triad with the greatest stability is called the tonic," and one does not see what is meant by "a different tone in the same scale": different from the one with the greatest stability? In what sense could it be the tonic, then?
 * On the other hand, I think that the replacement of "note in the same scale" by "tone in the same scale" is unjustified. It seems to me that tones, once they belong to a scale, become notes (this is a complex matter, yet...). – Hucbald.SaintAmand (talk) 13:42, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Tone is the correct techical term; a note has rhythmic value, and is performed by a specified voice or instrument. Tony (talk)  02:17, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Any objection to removing the threads above that are at least eight years old? Tony (talk)  02:19, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I suppose you mean archiving? Yes, please. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:22, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Lead rewrite
The lead for this article is egregiously unhelpful for a general audience: I'm trying my best to rewrite it, and here's what I have so far: But that's still a lot—this is very hard to introduce with no prior context afforded, as simple as the concept feels. — Remsense  诉  12:23, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

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User:Sj/Wikimania

Exciting bits:
 * 3 great keynotes
 * Press conference Friday
 * Saturday night party in a Sunny castle
 * English-language Wikireaders about the area
 * Tours of local libraries, museums

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Director of Immigration

The Director of Immigration is the head of the Immigration Department of the Hong Kong Government, which is responsible for immigration issues and controlling entry ports into Hong Kong.

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British Journal of Social Psychology

The British Journal of Social Psychology is a peer-reviewed academic journal published by Wiley-Blackwell on behalf of the British Psychological Society. It publishes original papers on subjects like social cognition, attitudes, group processes, social influence, intergroup relations, self and identity, nonverbal communication, and social psychological aspects of affect and emotion, and of language and discourse. The journal was established in 1962 as the British Journal of Social and Clinical Psychology and obtained its current title in 1981. According to the Journal Citation Reports, the journal has a 2021 impact factor of 6.920.

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Yasin Hassan Omar

Yasin Hassan Omar (sometimes spelt Yassin; born 1 January 1983) is a British Somali convicted terrorist. Omar was arrested and tried for his involvement in the attempted 21 July attacks on London's public transport system. He was found guilty of attempting to detonate a device on the London Underground Victoria line tube train between Warren Street and Oxford Circus tube stations. In August 2005 police gave his age as 24 after his arrest.

Omar's background
Omar was originally from Somalia and arrived in the UK as a child dependent of asylum seekers, in 1992. He was granted indefinite leave to remain in 2000.

Arrest
Omar was one of four men arrested on Wednesday 27 July 2005 at 0430 BST, in a property on Heybarnes Road, in the Small Heath area of Birmingham. He was then taken to London's Paddington Green police station for questioning.

Police used a 'Taser' stun gun to detain him. This was criticised as an incredible risk by Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair, saying "If there is a bomb on that body, then the bomb is going to go off". West Midlands Police disagreed and said Sir Ian Blair did not know the full circumstances surrounding the arrest, but they still voluntarily referred the matter to the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

Charges
On 6 August 2005 he was charged with four criminal charges:
 * On or before 21 July, conspiracy with others unknown to murder passengers on the London transport system.
 * On 21 July, attempted murder of passengers on the London transport system.
 * On or before 21 July, conspiracy with others unknown to cause explosions likely to endanger life or cause serious damage to property.
 * On 21 July, unlawful and malicious possession of explosives with the intent of endangering life or causing serious damage to property.

Trial
On 28 April 2006, Omar, along with his co-accused pleaded not guilty to all charges against him and was placed on trial with 5 other suspects.

His fiancée, Fardosa Abdullah, was arrested on 4 October 2006. She was charged with assisting Omar in evading arrest and with failing to disclose information which could have led to Omar's arrest or conviction "as soon as reasonably practicable". She was subsequently jailed for three years.

On 9 July 2007, Yasin Hassan Omar was found guilty at Woolwich Crown Court of conspiracy to murder and sentenced to life imprisonment, with a minimum of 40 years before being considered for release.

Appeal
In April 2008, the court of appeal judges dismissed a challenge by Ibrahim, Omar, Mohammed and Osman to their convictions.

In December 2014, an appeal to the European Court of Human Rights lodged in 2008 by the bombers, claiming that their rights were breached in the 'safety interviews' after their arrests, was rejected.

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Uhlsport

Uhlsport GmbH is a German sporting goods manufacturer. Originally established in 1948 as "Haase & Uhl OHG" and later renamed "Karl Uhl GmbH", the company became "uhlsport GmbH" in 1994. It is an international company which has its permanent headquarters in Balingen in Baden-Württemberg, Germany.

The company manufactures and distributes its products through the brands Uhlsport and Kempa.

History

The company was founded in 1948 by Karl Uhl. Early production focussed on manufacturing leather studs for football boots, and in 1953 uhlsport also began to produce football boot soles for sports shoe manufacturers. In the years which followed, more products were added, including shin guards, sports bandages, footballs and goalkeeper gloves, until finally uhlsport GmbH had developed a full range of football equipment. Since 2002, the company has been operating a multi-brand strategy for football and handball.

Brands and products
The brand "uhlsport" specializes in football, especially goalkeeper equipment. Since 2002, handball equipment has been marketed through the company's own "Kempa" brand.

The German company operates an indirect distribution strategy with subsidiaries in France, Spain, and Sweden and with country managers in UK, Benelux, and Switzerland. Uhlsport has a further 80 distribution partners across the world. In 1998, the Uhl family sold the company to the Daiss family.

Sponsorship

Uhlsport is the official equipment supplier to 1. FC Köln and 1. FC Magdeburg, As official ball sponsor uhlsport supports the Croatian SuperSport HNL. The goalkeepers Alphonso Areola, Alexander Schwolow, Mike Maignan, Oliver Baumann, Odysseas Vlachodimos, Fabian Bredlow, Diant Ramaj, Christian Mathenia, Lukas Hradecky, Ron-Robert Zieler, Pauline Peyraud-Magnin, Yassine Bounou, Ofir Marciano, Anthony Lopes and others play with uhlsport gloves.

Kempa ist the official sponsor to HBW Balingen-Weilstetten, TVB 1898 Stuttgart, Bergischer HC, Buxtehuder SV (women) and HSG Bensheim/Auerbach (women). From 2023 Kempa brand has become the new official supplier of the Germany men's national volleyball team

Club teams

 * Wolves

'football is soccer''

Africa

 * 🇰🇪 kenya

Africa

 * 🇨🇮 SOA
 * 🇲🇦 FUS Rabat

The Americas

 * 🇦🇷 Deportivo Laferrere (from 2022 season)
 * San Carlos

Asia

 * 🇴🇲 Al-Nahda

Europe

 * 🇦🇱 Bylis
 * 🇦🇱 Egnatia
 * 🇦🇱 Kastrioti
 * 🇦🇱 Laçi
 * 🇦🇹 Austria Lustenau
 * 🇦🇹 Blau-Weiß Linz
 * 🇧🇪 Mouscron
 * 🇧🇾 Naftan Novopolotsk
 * 🇧🇬 Arda Kardzhali
 * 🇧🇬 Cherno More Varna
 * 🇧🇬 Chernomorets Balchik
 * 🇧🇬 Maritsa Plovdiv
 * 🇧🇬 Septemvri Sofia
 * 🇧🇬 Pirin Blagoevgrad
 * Oriente
 * Hvidovre
 * Silkeborg
 * 🏴 Chippenham Town
 * 🏴 Havant & Waterlooville
 * 🏴 Weston-super-Mare
 * 🇪🇪 Tallinna JK Legion
 * 🇫🇷 Clermont Foot (from 2022-23 season)
 * 🇩🇪 Waldhof Mannheim (from 2023-24 season)
 * 🇩🇪 Bonner SC
 * 🇩🇪 SSV Reutlingen
 * 🇩🇪 SSV Ulm
 * 🇩🇪 Stuttgarter Kickers
 * 🇩🇪 TSG Balingen
 * 🇩🇪 VfR Garching
 * Ballkani (from 2021-22 season)
 * Ballymena United
 * Dungannon Swifts
 * Lisburn Distillery
 * Warrenpoint Town
 * East Stirlingshire (from 2023-24 season)
 * Montrose
 * Stenhousemuir (from 2023-24 season)
 * 🇹🇷 Erzurumspor
 * 🇹🇷 Alanyaspor
 * 🇹🇷 Büyükşehir Belediye Erzurumspor

Oceania

 * 🇳🇿 Birkenhead United
 * 🇦🇺 Souths United
 * 🇦🇺 Brisbane Strikers

Associations and competitions
Uhlsport is the official supplier for the following leagues and associations:

 * 🇧🇷 Série C
 * 🇧🇷 Série D
 * NIFL Premiership
 * Ligi Kuu Tanzania Bara

Club teams

 * 🇩🇪 HBW Balingen-Weilstetten
 * 🇩🇪 Bergischer HC
 * 🇩🇪 Buxtehuder SV
 * 🇩🇪 TVB Stuttgart
 * CSM București ( women's )
 * Gloria Bistrița ( women's )
 * Dunărea Brăila ( women's )
 * Gloria Buzău ( women's )
 * CSM București
 * 🇸🇪 Alingsås HK

("The uhlsport football brand. Brand positioning in Germany”). 1998

Club teams

 * 🇹🇷 Gaziantep Gençlik Spor

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WWE Survivor Series (video game)

WWE Survivor Series is a professional wrestling video game developed by Natsume Co., Ltd. and published by THQ for the Game Boy Advance handheld console. WWE Survivor Series is based on the World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) annual pay-per-view, Survivor Series. The game is the sequel to Road to WrestleMania X8. WWE Survivor Series was also the last WWE video game released for a Nintendo handheld console until WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 for the Nintendo DS in 2007.

With it being two years since the last Game Boy Advance WWE game, the roster is vastly different from previous one and included eight Raw and eight SmackDown! wrestlers. The story mode was changed to accompany the WWE's Brand Extension from 2002, meaning the player could choose a particular brand to get to the top before switching brands to conquer another brand. The story mode was also changed in that winning matches wasn't necessarily the main aim. Instead, the aim was to give out a good match and make matches less one-sided.

Reception
WWE Survivor Series received "mixed" reviews according to video game review aggregator Metacritic.

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Talk:Tat Tvam Asi

Deep interpretation

 * The deep interpretation of this for Hindu philosophy is seen differently by the three major schools of Indian philosophy.

I was tempted to insert a clause about the fact that the Upanishads were written 1200-500 BCE, while Shankaracharya lived a millenium or two later. But then I wondered whether these schools arose before Shankaracharya's time, so I didn't add anything. If someone knows better, I maybe they could comment. --goethean ॐ 15:00, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

The section In Advaita reads like a sermon. At the very least capitalized essences ("the Infinite Cosmos") should be avoided. Thehotelambush 20:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I think the Devanāgarī is correct now. David G Brault 19:34, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Neutrality tag
As of now, I am seeing now arguments on this talk page FOR the tag or any complaints, so I am removing it. Sethie (talk) 06:52, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Mysticism?
Are we relating Hinduism to mysticism? I don't believe that is impartial; nor should the article say the practice leads toward "Unio Mystica", a phrase that came into use thousands of years later. Surely we can find at least one suitable Sanskrit word for enlightenment.

Further, should we not mention that this is the second phrase of the sentence: "I am That, Thou art That, and all this is That"? The three phrases are descriptive of three growing stages of enlightenment: cosmic consciousness, God consciousness, and Brahman consciousness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Websterwebfoot (talk • contribs) 20:55, 13 October 2008 (UTC) Websterwebfoot (talk) 21:04, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Using terms from other practices, religions.
One more thing. I have never heard the word "salvation" used in reference to Hinduism. I believe it is a Christian concept. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Websterwebfoot (talk • contribs) 21:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Simple explanation
Hi. Would anyone be interested in writing a version of this page for Simple Wikipedia? I'm above averagely intelligent (according to IQ tests), and I'm struggling to understand what Tat Tvam Asi is/means based upon this wikipedia article. --Rebroad (talk) 10:57, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Corrected jiva. Made it Atman.
Advaita says "Atman is Brahman". Jiva is a term for illusory individual Self or ego/soul. Atman is the true underlying all encompassing Self in Hinduism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.236.160.217 (talk) 03:02, 27 April 2011 (UTC) Authour

Is this a "Sanskrit" sentence?
It has been proposed in discussions in Wiktionary that Sanskrit is not a romanized language, and therefore that any use of the Latin alphabet to transliterate Sanskrit terms makes the resulting sentence an English sentence, not a Sanskrit sentence. bd2412 T 14:03, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * That is not what has been suggested. What has been suggested is that usage of Sanskrit words in Latin spellings inside English sentences, with them undergoing syntactical agreement and taking on parts of English morphology (such as the plural suffix -s) makes them English words.
 * Not that that has anything to do with this article, though. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 14:59, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Merged to Mahāvākyas
I've merged this article to Mahāvākyas; it makes more sense to have the explanations of the Mahāvākyas together in one article. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk!  05:26, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

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Martin de Knijff

Martin de Knijff (born 2 October 1972) is a professional sports bettor and live tournament high-stakes poker player from Gothenburg, Sweden.

His last name is from his Dutch father. His mother is Swedish. The family moved to Falkenberg when Martin was 5 and in 1992 Martin left to go to Stockholm and from there to Las Vegas where he currently lives.

Martin started playing poker aged 15 (mostly 5-card draw) but became fond of Omaha and Hold-Em when introduced to them. He considers Doyle Brunson's book Super/System to be the best poker book ever written.

He first made a name for himself in the poker world with a 13th-place finish in the 2002 World Series of Poker Main Event, earning himself $60,000.

In the World Poker Tour, he finished 15th in the series 1 championship, winning $26,664; and went on to win the same tournament the following year, earning a then-record-breaking $2,728,356.

Less than a month later his success continued with a 2nd-place finish in the $5,000 No Limit Hold-Em event at the 2004 World Series of Poker.

Martin wrote an article for Card Player magazine in 2005 encouraging tournament backers to reveal themselves. It was met with mixed reactions from poker professionals.

As of his last tournament cash in 2008, his total live tournament winnings exceed $3,370,000.

In addition to poker, Martin is an avid bridge player. He finished second in the 2008 Blue Ribbon Pairs, one of the two major North American pairs bridge championships.

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Talk:Rob Newman (comedian)

Time-wasters
People! Do NOT insert frivolous 'citation needed' tags. Uncontroversial statements do NOT need citations, and as a rule of thumb it's best to have as few footnotes as possible. ONLY IF there is likely to be a substantial amount of controversy does a statement need a citation. Sartoresartus (talk) 11:21, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

PoV
Removed some NPOV comments about Dependence Day. They may well be true though, and I might read the book now to find out Coyote-37 16:06, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

History of the World Backwards
What about "The History of the World Backwards" ? On BBC4 tonight 30th October 2007. Bigfatspider 22:12, 30 October 2007 (UTC) OOOPS ! Even so, it AIN'T called "No Planet B" - I'll get me coat... Bigfatspider 22:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Communism
"worked as a communist" -- what did that involve? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gwaptiva (talk • contribs) 23:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:ApocNowCDCover.jpg
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Disputed copyright status of image
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Citation template removal, fact tags & misc
Some of the fact tags seemed random and excessive. For example, there's no request for a reference regarding selling out Wembley arena, but there were requests for verification as to whether or not a CD or DVD had been issued. I tried to respond to all requests for references, but I took out the [citation needed] tag regarding the existence of DVDs and CDs. They are available for sale at robnewman.com and Amazon, among others. Removed citation template. Removed 1st entry under “further reading” as it is now cited as a footnote.Typing Monkey - (type to me) 22:34, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Acceptable use of non-free image robert_newman_history_of_oil_screenshot.jpg
This image is an "acceptable use" of a non-free image. See WP:NONFREE, section 2.1.3. Also see the image page for detailed fair use rationale. This is in line with thousands of other screenshots used throughout Wikipedia. Typing Monkey - (type to me) 20:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Non-free images of living persons are not permissable in articles about that person. See WP:NONFREE, section 2.2.3. Cheers. Marwood (talk) 17:27, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * There's a pic of him in the dustjacket and pr materials for his book "The Fountain at the Centre of the World." I think that qualifies as non-lawsuitable.  I could scan and post it.  What think yeAvapepper (talk) 03:13, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Previous jobs
What is a "mover"? I assume this means he worked for a moving company, but I thought I'd check before wikilinking - can anyone shed any light on it? ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 14:00, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Reliability
This whole piece is obviously written by the subject or his PR agent. Rustygecko (talk) 07:52, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Total Eclipse of Descartes
Could this article also put in that Newman has presented a BBC Radio Four comedy series called "Total Eclipse of Descartes"?Vorbee (talk) 17:35, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

 * It's already listed in the 'Solo career' subsection of the 'Filmography and bibliography' section. JezGrove (talk) 17:47, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

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Charles Tilston Bright

Sir Charles Tilston Bright (8 June 1832 – 3 May 1888) was a British electrical engineer who oversaw the laying of the first transatlantic telegraph cable in 1858, for which work he was knighted.

Life
Born on 8 June 1832 in Wanstead, Essex, Bright was educated at Merchant Taylors' School.

At fifteen, he became a clerk for the Electric Telegraph Company and as his talent for electrical engineering became evident, he was appointed engineer to the Magnetic Telegraph Company in 1852. In that role he supervised the laying of lines in the British Isles, including in 1853 the first cable between Scotland and Ireland, from Portpatrick to Donaghadee, when he was just 21. This work, and the successful laying of other submarine cables, suggested to others that it might be possible to lay a cable across the Atlantic from Ireland to North America.

Joining with Cyrus West Field and John Watkins Brett, who controlled the New York, Newfoundland and London Telegraph Company, Bright helped organise the Atlantic Telegraph Company in 1856 to develop a transatlantic cable, with himself as engineer-in-chief; Wildman Whitehouse soon joined them as chief electrician. Samuel Canning supported the effort on board HMS Agamemnon.

After two failed attempts in August 1857 and three more in June 1858, Bright successfully accomplished what to many had seemed an impossible feat, completing the first Atlantic cable from Trinity Bay, Newfoundland, to Valentia Island, Ireland, on 5 August 1858. Bright was knighted in Dublin just a few days later. Though widely hailed as the wonder of the age, the 1858 cable failed after only about a month of fitful service, a victim of hasty manufacture and the excessive signalling voltages used by Whitehouse. Sir Charles Bright emerged from the debacle with his reputation largely intact and went on to supervise the laying of successful cables in the Mediterranean, the Persian Gulf, and the Caribbean. He also served as a consultant on renewed efforts to span the Atlantic, which in 1866 resulted not only in the completion of the first lasting transatlantic cable, but in the recovery and completion of a cable that had snapped during laying in 1865.

Bright formed a partnership with Josiah Latimer Clark in 1861 and together they introduced numerous improvements in the manufacture, testing, and operation of submarine cables. They were strong advocates of establishing a unified system of electrical units, and a number of the proposals they made in a paper presented to the British Association for the Advancement of Science in 1861 were later taken up by the British Association Committee on Electrical Standards and formed the foundations of the system of ohms, amps, and volts still in use today. In 1865 he was awarded a Telford Medal for a paper on the possibilities of submarine cable telegraphy from England to China and Australia.

In 1870, Bright was contracted to be the engineer for the Panama and South Pacific Telegraph Company, which was planning to lay a submarine cable between Panama and Peru. However, this engagement ended in controversy when the company discovered that, at the same time as Bright was acting as engineer for the company, he had also agreed to be the sub-contractor for the Telegraph Works Company, which the Panama (etc.) Company had engaged to carry out the work of laying the cable. This ended in a court case between the Panama (etc.) Company and Telegraph Works Company, which was heard in the Divisional Court on 27 April 1875, and which gave judgment for the Panama (etc.) Company on the basis that Bright's dual engagement had given rise to an improper conflict of interest that was tantamount to fraud. That case is now a leading judicial authority in English law on third party liability for procuring a breach of duty by an agent.

From 1865 to 1868, Bright was Liberal MP for Greenwich and in 1887 he was elected president of the Society of Telegraph Engineers and Electricians (later the Institution of Electrical Engineers). Bright died on 3 May 1888, at Abbey Wood, near London. His son Charles Bright was also a noted cable engineer and historian of the subject.

Bright's funeral took place at Chiswick Churchyard with a subsequent service at St Cuthbert's, Earls Court. The numerous attendees included Prince Victor of Hohenlohe-Langenburg, Robert Jardine, Frederic John Goldsmid and David Lionel Goldsmid-Stern-Salomons.

Sir Charles Bright (son)
Charles Tilston Bright's son, also Charles Bright (1863-1937), followed in his father's footsteps. In addition to cable engineering he was a pioneer in the use of radio as a communication device on both ships and planes.

He was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society of Edinburgh in 1895, and was knighted in 1919.

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Talk:Uplands, Swansea

I have changed two references to student bedsits in this article as it is factually incorrect. As an alumni of Swansea University and a former resident of Uplands it is factually incorrect to suggest that the majority of housing in the area are student bedsits. In fact, the majority of the residents in Uplands are student houses and/or flats. Owing to popular misconception especially to non-students, the term 'student accommodation' only exists either in halls of residence or University managed property. As the majority of property in Uplands are privately leased to students (each resident having their individual landlord) and the students moving in to a property together (just as would a family or a couple married or otherwise) it is in fact a private home that students lease on an annual basis. The term student itself when considering this type of property is in fact irrelevant as anyone can rent these properties whether they be families or students. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.15.26.99 (talk) 20:51, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I have changed the title of the article since the term Uplands is a geographical term - although I note that there is no article as such in Wikipedia! It is also incorrect to call it a "place in the county of Swansea" since it is quite clearly part of the built-up area of the city - even though Swansea is also a county. I cannot make much more of what the specific area called Uplands is or does: perhaps someone with local knowledge might be able to comment? It seems a very restricted area to me though! Peter Shearan 16:06, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Google maps knows about it and thinks that it is here, based around Uplands Crescent.

 * I am local and could add a few snippets. It's certainly one of the most well-known regions within Swansea. But someone is adding tons and tons of "places in Swansea" to the Swansea article, and I'm not quite clear on the logic they're using to pick them. Some are regions, some are estates, some are council wards, and some are towns or villages. I live here, and I had to check where one or two of those were! And yet some very well-known distinctions and divisions are missing. So before launching into filling this out, I think it would be good to get some consensus on whether Wikipedia needs an article on every council ward in Britain (Uplands is also a council ward, with four councillors) or whether an article on "Places in and around Swansea", which could include them all, is more sensible. I have brought this up over on Talk:Swansea. See you there, then? --Telsa 18:01, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Merger proposed (Stella Maris primary school)
The result was: Merge a sentence into Uplands, Swansea, and propose Stella Maris primary school for deletion.--B. Wolterding 15:03, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I propose to merge the content of Stella Maris primary school into here, since the notability of the school is not established. If it is really a school in Uplands, the one sentence from this article should simply be merged here. (Currently the school is not mentioned, and the school article does not cite sources.)

Please add your comments below. Proposed as part of the Notability wikiproject. --B. Wolterding 17:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is more appropriate to simply delete this article now. Stella Maris is no longer is school and is used only as a convent see http://www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=11293 about what has happened to the school. Sloman 18:47, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The combination of a convent and former school is worth a mention. I have merged in. TerriersFan 01:32, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

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Ryszard Pacławski

Ryszard Pacławski (born 1958 in Sanok, Poland) is a Polish lawyer, Scoutmaster (harcmistrz) and former Naczelnik ZHP (Chief Scout) from 1991 until 2000.

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Talk:Italian Market, Philadelphia

Question
The Market extends from Fitzwater to Wharton? I guess if one includes all Italian Market-associated businesses (Sarcones, Pat's, etc.) that's true, but come on -- the Market proper runs from Christian to Federal! Right?

Request
I have been trying to find out the name of the Italian Bakery that used to be on the corner of 9th and Federal Streets in the Italian Market in the 50's and 60's. They had the best pound cake I ever tasted. If anyone remembers the name, please tell me. Thank you. User:Jophilly 11:07, 25 July 2005

Workers
Recently the INS raided the market and arrest many undocumented workers being employed there.South Philly 20:09, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Info removed should be moved to a travel page
I removed the following info - which served more as a travel guide to the market and was not encyclopedic in tone. Perhaps It should me moved to WikiTravel or a similar site - AKeen 14:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

"The Italian Market is a must see for Philadelphia visitors. The variety of shops and restaurants accommodate a range of budgets and ages. Where else will you see hanging cheeses the size of torpedoes? Or 12 different types of egg poacher?

However, the Italian Market is not a tourist trap or museum, it's a bustling urban market. Many locals shop and eat there every day and restaurants around the city rely on its vendors for their pasta, produce and specialty meats.

Visitors are advised to wear comfortable shoes and dress for the weather. It's a good idea to bring a tote bag for carrying purchases. Many stores also sell coolers to get your perishables home safely. For the best selection, fewest crowds and best service visit on a weekday. Wheelchairs and strollers are welcome and contribute to weekend crowds.

Though many locals may park "creatively" visitors should park in the free municipal lots or other legal spaces to avoid getting a parking ticket.

In some ways the Italian Market is like stepping back in time, it's not your local supermarket. Uncommon sights and smells are an important part of the experience. Many butchers display their wares whole and visitors extremely sensitive to smells are advised to visit during a temperate or cooler time of year."

List cleanup
The list of vendors has been moved to the talk page for possible transwiki along with the content above. As useful as it is, it just plain doesn't belong in an encyclopedia (see WP:NOT).

 * Anastasi Seafood
 * Anthony's Italian Coffee House
 * Armand Rey Jewelery
 * Betty Ann's Flowers
 * The Butcher's Cafe
 * Cannuli's Meats (est. 1908)
 * Carl's Farm Eggs
 * Claudio Specialty Foods
 * D'Angelo Bros. Products, Inc.
 * Dan Khang Chinese Apothocary
 * Di Bruno Bros. House of Cheese(est. 1939)
 * Esposito's Meats
 * Evantash Ladies' Foundations
 * Fante's Gourmet & Kitchen Wares Shop (est. 1906)
 * Galleria Bellissima
 * George's Sandwich Shop
 * Grassia's Italian Market Spice Company
 * Iannelli’s Bakery
 * Isgro Pastries(est. 1904)
 * Lorenzo's Pizza
 * The Market Smoke Shop
 * Micali Fish
 * Michael Anastasio Produce
 * Orlando's Meats
 * Queen Cut-Rate
 * Ralph's Restaurant
 * Renzulli's Water Ice
 * Spice Corner
 * Superior Pasta Co. (est. 1948)
 * Talluto's Pasta & Cheese
 * Triple Play Sporting Goods
 * Villa di Roma Restaurant

If some of these (especially the older ones) are particularly notable, then we should try to write a sentence or two about them in the article. Sbacle 15:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Burn barrels
There seems to be a bit of dispute over whether the burn barrels add "warmth, and character", "toxic smoke" or both. I suspect both may be true on some level, but these types of statements sound very POV heavy and I'm inclined to get rid of them unless citations are provided. I say let's give it a week, comments? Sbacle 12:31, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:FOOD Tagging
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Lullula

Lullula is the genus of woodlarks, songbirds in the family Alaudidae. There is only one remaining extant species, the woodlark which is found in Europe, the mountains of northern Africa, the Middle East and western Asia. The remainder are known only from the fossil record.

Taxonomy and systematics
The genus Lullula was introduced by the German naturalist Johann Jakob Kaup in 1829. The genus Lullula is onomatopoeic from the French Lulu, the name given by de Buffon. Both the French name, Alouette lulu and the genus name are derived from the sound of its song.

The genus contain a single extant species, the woodlark (Lullula arborea).

Extinct species

 * †Lullula balcanica - late Pliocene of Varshets, Bulgaria
 * †Lullula slivnicensis - late Pliocene of Slivnitsa, Bulgaria
 * †Lullula minor - late Miocene of Polgardi, Hungary
 * †Lullula parva - Pliocene of Csarnota, Hungary
 * †Lullula minuscula - Pliocene of Beremend, Hungary
 * †Lullula neogradensis - Miocene of Mátraszőlős, Hungary

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Friendly Persuasion (Thee I Love)

"Friendly Persuasion (Thee I Love)" is a popular song with music by Dimitri Tiomkin and lyrics by Paul Francis Webster. It was published in 1956 and appeared in the 1956 film of the same name. At the 29th Academy Awards, Friendly Persuasion was nominated for the Best Music – Song but lost out to "Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be)".

Background
The title is an obvious play on words, since the film centers on a Quaker family, a religion known as the "Society of Friends". Thus, they are said to be of the "Friendly" persuasion.

1956 recordings

 * The best-known version of the song was recorded by Pat Boone and it reached the No. 5 position in the USA charts and No. 3 in the UK.
 * Another recording by The Four Aces followed Boone's in 1956 and reached number 45 peak position on Billboard's pop music chart.

Other recordings

 * Johnny Mathis included the song in his 1963 album Romantically.
 * Bing Crosby recorded the song for his album Bing Crosby's Treasury - The Songs I Love (1968 version).
 * Aretha Franklin recorded the song for her album Soft and Beautiful (1969).

Popular culture

 * The Four Aces version of the song was used in the 2013 BBC television series, Call the Midwife.

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Talk:Elias James Corey

Slant of this article
Looking at recent edits and reverts on this page, I believe that the page at present seems overly negative, and not in accordance with the NPOV Wikipedia is supposed to uphold. I think there should be a section on graduate student deaths, as these are a serious issue, but much of the tone of the article goes beyond simply reporting the facts. An article like this should not seem to pass judgement on whether people are "nice people", it should instead try to present information in a dispassionate way. Whatever character flaws he may have, EJ has made huge contributions to organic chemistry, and there needs to be more balance in this article. Walkerma 16:09, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

A very poor account of an influential scientist
This page is fairly juvenile right now. EJ Corey is one of the most influential chemists of the twentieth century, it would be difficult to carry out more than five reactions in the laboratory without encountering the massive sphere of influence that his work commands. The deaths of graduate students in his group have to be discussed within this context. Hanging the whole page around this issue, with minimal presentation of Corey's work and accomplishments, is just silly.

Everyone knows corey is a twat!

he is a bully and stole lygo's catalyst, to the extent it now has to be called corey's catalyst, or corey-lygo. and as for claiming he thought up woodward hoffman rules... what a bellend he is. above his station and clearly bullies his students. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.88.51.108 (talk) 22:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Corey is Certainly Above all the Synthetic Chemists Ever
I am citing the following excerpts from the Press release about Corey being awarded the Nobel prize. Please include it in the main body of the write up, as it very correctly and genuinely places him on top of the chemists of his generations and also before his times in bringing the organic synthesis to its current mature stage:

From the Press Release: The 1990 Nobel Prize in Chemistry http://nobelprize.org/chemistry/laureates/1990/press.html

To perform the total syntheses successfully, Corey was also obliged to develop some fifty entirely new or considerably improved synthesis reactions or reagents. It is probable that no other chemist has developed such a comprehensive and varied assortment of methods which, often showing the simplicity of genius, have become commonplace in the synthesising laboratory. His systematic use of different types of organometallic reagent has revolutionised recent techniques of synthesis in many respects.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.192.139.140 (talk • contribs) 22:12, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Headings added
OK folks. You're right, the article is one-sided. The only cure is to write something. I've added an image and a few subject headings. Let's fill them up with EJ's accomplishments so the article isn't so one sided. ~K 18:41, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

totally rubbish and one-sided article. E J is certainly the most inspiring organic chemist of our time and he certainly has redefined the way we think and carry out organic chemistry reactions. He made an endless number of contributions not only to the chemistry community but also for the betterment of mankind, and he is still continuing to do so as we speak now. He is such a brilliant organic chemist who will never stop inspiring us...

Nuclear holocaust line
I'm not a chemist and I don't want to comment on the slant of the article. But I'm removing the following phrase:

 * even if the world is ending in a nuclear holocaust and Dr. Corey's only chance for survival is for you to burst in and drag him to a bomb shelter, you may still not enter

as it is unverifiable, illogical (if the world ends, Corey dies, like everyone else), smacks of POV and is not the suitable tone for an encyclopedia. --JJay 00:43, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Whilst I agree to an extent, it is perhaps an urban myth, and if you're going to remove the phrase you may as well remove the bit about the red/green light too, otherwise it seems a bit wierd standing alone. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.130.133.215 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 23 November 2005 (UTC).

 * I'm not sure if Corey is the subject of myth, urban or otherwise, but I have no objection if you want to remove the red light/green light bit. Whoever added the info apparently wanted to convey the idea that Prof. Corey is a hardass. Nevertheless, the traffic light on his door is perhaps verifiable, unlike speculation on his reaction in the event of nuclear armageddon.-- JJay 19:58, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Expansion notice
I added the expansion notice to motivate us all add to this article. E. J. is one of the greatest living chemists, and deserves a quality article. While the current content is true, it reads one-sided. So lets start writing! ~K 22:51, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Added
I added a qoute, information about him winning the priestly award, and a list of publications.

- Jo Jo The Magic Chimp

 * Why have these three 1990s publications randomly in the middle of the article? If they're truly important, why not in the references section?  Why these three articles since he's published lots more than that? Olin

 * You're quite right, these are not presented appropriately. These publications may represent the pinnacle of Corey's work (I don't know), if they are they need to be described in prose and listed as references.  I put the list into a hidden comment so the information is there for someone to expand upon. Walkerma 02:34, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Corey's Work
Something about Corey seems to inspire heated emotions in people; there seems to be as many people who dislike him as there are who lavishly praise him. A grad student told me in 1999 the story of the traffic light, which I found amusing. But he also felt that Corey has padded his career resume to the point that it overflows more in "quantity" than in "quality". For example, (according to the student) Corey has "discovered" many of his published reactions simply by having students apply as much pressure or heat as necessary until the hoped-for reaction finally takes place. (Reaction doesn't work? Just keep applying more pressure. Still not going? Keep adding pressure, plus more heat.) The result is a lot of reactions that can only be duplicated in laboratory settings, never on a large scale. Of course, the student admitted that "Corey has done some very important things." But I've heard similar grumblings about Corey from other people. (Then again, Derek Barton had one or two suicides in his own lab, and isn't remembered all that fondly by everybody...) J.R. Hercules 06:14, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Grad student death deleted
The grad student death section (should really be graduate student suicide) was deleted today. I was wondering what people's opinion on this was. I think it's an important aspect of the chemistry community, but the section was a bit larger than the Coery's chemistry, which perhaps made the suicide a bit overemphasized. I am personally for a revert and maybe revise. Olin 19:46, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

This has happened before. We have pruned this section a bit - it used to be practically the entire article. I think we could reasonably cut it down a lot, but still leave the section in. Someone familiar with Corey needs to really give this a good rewrite with refs- I am less familiar with his work and can only do bits & pieces. Walkerma 21:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Controversy over Woodward-Hoffmann Rules
While reflecting on it, we must not forget that, in 1973, R. B. Woodward was involved in a similar controversy with the 1973 Nobel laureate, Geoffrey Wilkinson, over the structure and aromaticity of ferrocenes. Reflecting on their collaborative work done in 1951-52, at Harvard, much later, Woodward and Wilkinson both gave totally different accounts. In 1973, while upset at not being included in that year's Nobel Prize awarded jointly to Wilkinson and Fischer, on the work done on ferrocenes, Woodward wrote to the Nobel committee, that "Both of these concepts were simply, completely, and entirely mine, and mine alone, ...and that Wilkinson's initial reaction to my views was close to derision." Whereas, Wilkinson has stated that he had thought up the structure several days prior to his conversation with Woodward.Obviously, Woodward was a man with a history of such conflicts! Now, as for the Woodward-Hoffmann Rules, in lieu of Woodward's own words on Corey's contributions in the conceptualization of this theory, Hoffmann's biased account should not be given much weight!

http://www.orglist.net/archive/2001/0146.html The Northeastern Section of the American Chemical Society: Of Sandwiches and Nobel Prizes:

 * While I respect your POV, I don't think that Corey's claim to the W-H rules is verifiable, and I do question why Corey didn't mention it earlier if he really thought he had a claim to them. Wilkinson, Hoffmann and Corey are all great chemists.  I think you imply (maybe you don't, and maybe it's unintentional) by your paragraph that Corey is "conflict-free," and that Hoffmann and Wilkinson were/are somehow less great, which I think is horribly misleading. Olin 16:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Source for the red/green light
Someone deleted the bit of trivia about the red/green light at Corey's office door for being "irrelevant and unsourced". We can debate whether it is relevant or not (IMO it should be mentioned in the article), but here is a published source in case someone is interested:
 * If you wanted to speak with the lab chief, according to former students, you would knock on the door and take your cue from a pair of red and green lights beside the door frame. Despite the unusual traffic signals, Corey also had the reputation of being very accessible.
 * STEPHEN S. HALL; Lethal Chemistry at Harvard; New York Times Magazine; November 29, 1998

Itub 14:24, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

i clicked on the link. it went nowhere. a google search got this link which worked. maybe it's the same. the article was halfway neutral. the suicide segment certainly needs to be rewritten. It has way too much emphasis.Godspeed John Glenn! Will 23:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Speculation
I removed the phrase "Some see this as an indication of the difficulty associated with this project and of the unrealistic expectations that the student may have place upon himself at the time." There are a lot of reasons why a project may not have been continued. "Some see..." make this sound like a POV, weasel wordy, if you will. Olin 15:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Graduate Student Separate Page
Tried that. And didn't work. Apparent somebody has a redirect from Alton back to Corey. Half of Corey's page doesn't need to be about Alton. Alton committed suicide because he had a genetic susceptibility plus whatever environmental disruptor he faced. Somebody else would have told the prof to go tweak himself and gone to med school. There has to be some personal responsibility too. Godspeed John Glenn! Will 16:46, 27 March 2007 (UTC) Corey was 70 years old when the Alton dead occurred. Godspeed John Glenn! Will 16:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Apparently, when i tried to create an Alton page i created it under some other chemist name, Anderson somebody, i left a note on it and deleted all content. very embarrassing. I"ll be OK. That's why i didn't notice the redirect. That brings up the question of how to get rid of redirects once made. Godspeed John Glenn! Will 00:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

 * I have created a new Jason Alton page. If there is a redirect, once you get redirected you can click on the small link at the top of the page and it will take you to the actual redirect page itself.  I did that and copied the older text into the Jason Alton page.  Can you check that you think it's OK.  I notice that all this stuff needs citations - could you find some?  The only thing referenced right now is the total synthesis paper. Walkerma 04:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Darn it. the error propogates. the unfortuante guy's name is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Altom. Altom not Alton. that's why the link above is a dead link. i clicked on Walkerma's contributions to see where he created it. I"ll let him fix it or at least give him the reasonable opportunity to do it. I sure would hate to screw it up again. thanks for the info about the redirects. Godspeed John Glenn! Will 18:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)It is so easy to get mixed up. Actually the link was done correctly, the page on ALTOM is correct just the discussion name ALTON is wrong. There is nothing to fix. Whew. Godspeed John Glenn! Will 18:39, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

The Impact of Corey's Phenomenal Contributions on Synthetic Chemistry

'E.J. Corey is one of the most important chemists of our century,'' says Peter Dervan of Caltech. Born in Methuen, Mass., and educated at M.I.T., Corey is one of the most prolific organic chemists of this century. His area of specialty is synthetic organic chemistry -- that is, developing new reactions and building naturally occurring chemical compounds from scratch. In the course of a career whose productivity is almost without precedent, he and the members of his lab have synthesized more than 100 naturally occurring chemical compounds, many of them with significant medical or industrial implications. He was born brilliant and he'll die brilliant, says A.I. Meyers of Colorado State University. I would rank him as one of the two or three greatest scientists in the century, and the entire pharmaceutical industry has been living off his chemistry for years. The extended family of Corey group members has published, by one estimation, a phenomenal 100,000 scientific papers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.206.2.4 (talk) 23:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

AFSP reference is misstated
The paper from the ASFP is not a reprint of a NYT article, nor was it written by Keith Richburg. It is signed with the initials "HH and MA", meaning it is essentially anonymous. As it stands, the article gives this source undue prominence. I am going to revert to this version] unless we can decide how to better incorporate it, or whether to incorporate it at all. Skinwalker (talk) 20:28, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Instead of reverting, I've now fixed the citation and streamlined the section. Skinwalker (talk) 20:55, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I support Skinwalker's version. We shouldn't give undue weight to the ASFP report, and a line noting that they believe Corey was scapegoated is sufficient. Gigs (talk) 15:28, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Skinwalker's Request that All Changes to the Graduate Suicide Section be Posted Here
I am perplexed as to why Skinwalker keeps insisting that any change to the graduate student suicide section that, in my opinion, takes the focus off of Corey as being responsible for Altom's death be discussed in this section. I look forward to a discussion in this forum with Skinwalker regarding why a reasonable person would not draw the conclusion that this issue is personally important to Skinwalker and that Skinwalker wants to pick and choose which facts to include in such a way that Corey is to be held responsible. If Skinwalker cannot be objective about this issue, then Skinwalker should not be making any changes to the Corey page.

It is vitally important to recognize the role of depression in suicide. Indeed, the AFSP clearly states that depression and not Corey was the most likely direct cause of Altom's suicide. Not to recognize that depression most likely played a major role is to condemn those with depression and the families who suffer with them to inadequate intervention that might save people's lives. If you do not understand the cause of a condition, you cannot intervene in a way that can improve the condition. By placing a "blame" on someone for an individual's suicide, you ignore the only possible life saving intervention - a recognition of the terrible illness of depression that can be fatal - and intervention addressing the illness itself.

I would like Skinwalker to explain why Skinwalker deletes any mention of depression in the graduate student suicide section. If Skinwalker does not believe depression to be a major - and often fatal - illness, I would like to know what reasoning brings Skinwalker to that conclusion. I am interested in ensuring that people suffering from depression get the help they need. I am left wondering what Skinwalker is interested in accomplishing and by what authority Skinwalker has decided that he/she is the determiner of truth in the Corey page. Skinwalker should not be arbitrating content on the Corey page. Skinwalker seems to be too personally involved.

Trvthchem (talk) 07:34, 21 November 2010 (UTC)Trvthchem

 * Thank you for taking this to the talk page. I would suggest reading about wp:dispute resolution if you would like some other editors to take a look. --CutOffTies (talk) 16:21, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

From Trvthchem (talk) 23:31, 22 November 2010 (UTC)Trvthchem Thank you CutOffTies for the information. I have posted the following to the "Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard". "At issue is the content of the Graduate student suicides section of the page on Elias James Corey. The main article cited in this section is the New York Times Article “Lethal Chemistry at Harvard” that according to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (AFSP) is an example of problematic reporting that unfairly scapegoats and harms Corey.  All attempts to either delete this section or provide a balanced view that depression most likely played a role in a specific graduate student’s suicide (Jason Altom) have been consistently removed.   The content on graduate student suicides should, in my opinion, either be removed or reflect the fact that the AFSP clearly states that Corey was not to blame for Altom’s suicide.  The constant reverting by some editors to a version that blames Corey is, in my opinion, not only in direct contrast to all that we now know about the need to clearly identify depression and intervene effectively but is also a form of cyber bullying of Corey. I would like the edits that either remove this section or provide a balanced view to remain without reversion to the version I consider biased. The AFSP does not consider the cited New York Times article as a valid and reliable source of information on Altom's suicide. What is the next step?"
 * Just a quick note - I am traveling in rural Southeast Asia and do not have consistent internet access. I will comment further next week.  I support Anythingyouwant's recent edits.  Skinwalker (talk) 12:17, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

BLPN Discussion
Click here if you'd like to join the discussion at the Biographies of Living Persons Noticeboard.Anythingyouwant (talk) 03:10, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Baseless
Per the cited source: "According to the notes he left, he was certain that his dreamed-of career in academia was doomed. Those fears were apparently baseless. Corey did not want to comment for this story, but students and professors say Altom retained his adviser's support."Anythingyouwant (talk) 23:17, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hm, I mistakenly checked the wrong source. Revert if you want, but I would prefer that we paraphrase as "apparently baseless".  Thanks, Skinwalker (talk) 23:22, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Article too long
This article seems needlessly complicated and too long. There is also no reason to include large numbers of organic reaction mechanisms in a Wikipedia article, which should be written for general audiences. Sure, one or two reactions is fine. Leave it at that. I would recommend cutting it down a bit. He may be an important scientist, but he is not Einstein either.Boab (talk) 22:52, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

External links modified
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Who else committed suicide in EJ's lab????
Help! I am trying to find out the names, death-dates, and suicide methods, of the OTHER two grad students, BESIDES Jason Altom, who committed suicide in EJ Corey's lab--there were THREE total suicides there. I've been searching the internet for MORE THAN TWO HOURS and I cannot find their names anywhere. Does anyone out there in Wiki-land know their names, and can you find a source??? Please reply to my TALK page. Thanks! HandsomeMrToad (talk) 07:49, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

 * On top of what this user mentioned I'd also like to know if the other two students blamed Corey for their suicides. If that's the case then Altom's suicide cannot be blamed on mere "delusion", an accusation which I find highly suspicious especially when considering that there is no evidence that Altom showed signs of psychosis or any sort of pathological paranoia. Corey is a chemist and not a psychiatrist.
 * If the other two students also blamed Corey then that would be enough circumstantial evidence to launch an investigation and find out what actually led to those events. Tons of Harvard students experience pressure and yet they don't suddenly develop paranoid delusions and suicidal ideation. I mean a total of three suicides under the supervision of the same guy should definitely raise some very serious questions of what actually happened. And to reiterate what HandsomeMrToad asked: does someone here know the names of the other two students who committed suicide? Unfortunately I can't access the article that was referenced as a source. Thank you. 80.187.65.173 (talk) 14:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Also known for section
The info in this box has several things attributed to Robert Corey Robert_Corey - I'm going to delete it, but just wanted to make it clear why this info is being removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hichris (talk • contribs) 13:14, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

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