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Ramón Chao

Ramón Luís Chao Rego (21 July 1935 – 20 May 2018) was a Spanish journalist and writer. He won the Premio de Virtuosismo for Piano in 1955. The same year he moved to Paris, France to study music with Nadia Boulanger and Lazare Lévy. In 1960 he began his collaboration with the RTF's Iberian languages Service. He was head of this service ten years later. At the same time he was collaborating with the Spanish weekly Triunfo, the monthly Le Monde Diplomatique, and the daily newspapers Le Monde and La Voz de Galicia.

Ramón Chao was named chevalier de Ordre des Arts et des Lettres in 1991 and named as an officier in 2004. In 2003 the Spanish government awarded him the Orden del Mérito Civil. In 1997 he won the prize Premio Galicia de la Comunicación. In 2001, the Liberpress prize in Gerona for his human coherence and his solidarity in the field of journalism: “per la seva coherència humana i solidaritat periodística”.

He was the father of radio journalist Antoine Chao and of the musician and singer Manu Chao, both of them members of the Mano Negra band whose Colombian adventure was described in Ramón Chao's book Mano Negra en Colombia: Un tren de hielo y fuego.

Films

 * Llorens Artigas with Georges Ferraro TVF (1970)
 * Arriba España with José María Berzosa and André Camp. SFP París (1976)
 * Oú es-Tu ? with J.M. Berzosa FR3 (1989)
 * 50 años después de la guerra, with José Maria Berzosa (1980- SFR)
 * Tres días con Onetti, with José María Berzosa - SFP-Paris (1990), Océaniques

Radio

 * De la Bastilla a Moncada Premio Radio La Habana. ORTF (1978
 * Conversaciones con Jorge Luis Borges in collaboration with Ignacio Ramonet ORTF (1980)
 * Julio Cortázar Esbozo with (Adelaida Blázquez) Premio International "España" (1984)
 * De Berceo al altiplano, itinerario del español Premio International "España" (1985), with Erlens Calabuig.

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Ashley Leitão

Ashley Leitão (, born December 6, 1986) Is a Canadian recording artist. She was the ninth-place finisher on the third season of the reality show Canadian Idol in 2005. Her heritage is Portuguese. As of 2005, she resided in Burnaby, British Columbia.

After Idol, she and two other contestants formed the group Braided, releasing an album in 2006, on which Leitão duetted with figure skating champion Elvis Stojko.

Early life
Born in Winnipeg, Leitão is the daughter of a Portuguese baker. Her parents ran a bakery in Winnipeg. Leitão moved with her family to Portugal at age five, and her family ran a bakery there for ten months. They returned to Canada and lived in Burnaby, operating a bakery in North Vancouver. Leitão, musical from a young age, began formal singing lessons at age nine. She graduated from Burnaby's Alpha Secondary School in 2004.

Canadian Idol
Performing on the third season of Canadian Idol in 2005, in the first group of the Top 32, Leitão performed the song "Colors of the Wind", which convinced viewers to vote her into the next stage of the competition. She got the second-highest number of votes that night, after Daryl Brunt.

Songs that Ashley performed during the season included:
 * Top 32: "Colours of the Wind" (Vanessa Williams)
 * Top 10: "Let It Rain" (Amanda Marshall)
 * Top 9: "Sir Duke" (Stevie Wonder)

On the July 27 episode, it was revealed that Leitão was a member of the "Bottom 3", along with Melissa O'Neil and Josh Palmer. Judge Jake Gold made the observation that all three of them were from Western Canada, and insinuated that regional voting might have been at play. Leitão had the lowest number of votes, and after giving a tearful goodbye to Canada, she performed a farewell rendition of "Sir Duke".

Post-Idol
Leitão formed the group Braided with fellow former Season 3 contestants Casey LeBlanc and Amber Fleury. Their first single, entitled "A Little Bit Closer", was released to radio on June 15, 2006. She recorded a duet with Elvis Stojko, a former world champion Canadian figure skater. Braided released the album Casey, Ashley and Amber in August 2006.

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Sarah Bolger

Sarah Bolger (born 28 February 1991) is an Irish actress. She starred in the films In America (2003), Stormbreaker (2006), The Spiderwick Chronicles (2008), The Moth Diaries (2011), The Lazarus Effect (2015), Emelie (2015), and A Good Woman Is Hard to Find (2019). On television, she portrayed Princess Mary Tudor in The Tudors (2008–2010), for which she won an IFTA award, and Princess Aurora in Once Upon a Time (2012–2015). Bolger also appeared on the series Into the Badlands (2015–2017) and starred on Mayans M.C. (2018–2023).

Early life and education
Bolger was born in Dublin to father Derek, a butcher and mother Monica, a housewife and grew up in the Southside suburb of Rathfarnham. Her younger sister, Emma, also acted and has since pursued academia.

Bolger attended Loreto High School Beaufort from 2003 to 2009 and took classes at Ann Kavanagh's Young People's Theatre.

Career
Bolger starred in In America with her sister, Emma. From 2008 to 2010, she portrayed Princess Mary Tudor in The Tudors. Bolger starred in Stormbreaker alongside Alex Pettyfer. She also starred in the film adaptation of the children's novel The Spiderwick Chronicles. She filmed a pilot called Locke & Key.

Bolger guest starred as Princess Aurora in the second, third, and fourth seasons of the fairy tale drama, Once Upon a Time.

Bolger played the female lead role, Umi, in the English version of the 2011 Studio Ghibli film From Up on Poppy Hill, and starred as Lucy in As Cool as I Am in 2013. In 2014, she made an appearance on TV series, Mixology. Bolger co-starred in David Gelb's thriller film The Lazarus Effect.

In 2015, she starred in the AMC (TV channel) martial arts show Into the Badlands and the Freddie Steinmark biopic My All American. In 2016, she starred as the title character in the horror film Emelie.

In March 2017, it was reported by Deadline Hollywood that Bolger was to star in the crime-thriller A Good Woman Is Hard to Find directed by Abner Pastoll. Filming completed in December 2017, with the film released in 2019.

Other projects
In January 2011, Bolger was selected to be in photographer Kevin Abosch's project "The Face of Ireland" alongside other Irish celebrities including Sinéad O'Connor, Neil Jordan, and Pierce Brosnan.

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Amadu III of Masina

Amadu III of Masina (أحمد بن أحمد بن أحمد لبّو, Āmadu mo Āmadu mo Āmadu Lobbo), also known as Amadu Amadu (1830 - 16 May 1862) was the third and last ruler of the theocratic Caliphate of Hamdullahi (Diina of Hamdullahi) in the Inner Niger Delta, now the Mopti Region of Mali. He was elected as successor to his father, Amadu II of Masina, in 1853. Throughout most of his rule he was involved in conflict with the jihadist al-Hajj 'Umar Tall, who defeated and executed him on 16 May 1862.

Background
Amadu III was the grandson of the founder of the Diina of Hamdullahi, Seku Amadu. Some time between 1810 and 1818 Seku Amadu (Aḥmad bin Muḥammad bin Abi Bakr Lobbo) launched a jihad against the Fulbe chiefs in Masina, tributaries of the pagan Bambara of Segu, whom he accused of idolatry. The goals of the jihad soon expanded to that of conquest of the Bambara and others in the region. Aḥmad bin Muḥammad established a large empire based on Hamdallahi, which he had founded as the capital. He received support from Tukolor and Fulbe people who were seeking independence from the Bamabara, although later he met resistance from these people when he imposed a rigorous Islamic theocracy based on the Maliki interpretation of Sharia law. The state was ruled by a council of forty elders, who gave directions to provincial governors. Most of the governors were related to Aḥmad bin Muḥammad. When Aḥmad bin Muḥammad died in 1844, he was succeeded by his son Aḥmad bin Aḥmad (Amadu II), father of Amadu III.

Ruler
Ahmadu II was killed in 1852 during a raid on the Bambara. He had nominated his son as his successor. In 1853 Amadu III was elected to the position of Almami of the Diina in accordance with his father's wishes. Another candidate for election, Ba Lobbo, was passed over but remained influential as a member of the Tijani faction at court. Ba Lobbo was Amadu's uncle, and a leader in the army.

Although less learned than his grandfather and father, Aḥmad III continued their highly puritanical Islamic practices such as banning the use of tobacco and requiring full segregation of men and women. However, he was less rigid in matters of Islamic education and control, more willing to follow traditions of Fulbe social structure. During his rule tensions mounted between the more puritanical Tijaniyyah minority and the more relaxed Qadiriyya community. When the German traveler Heinrich Barth reached Timbuktu in September 1853, he was given the protection of Aḥmad al-Bakkāy, the political and religious leader of the Kunta, who refused Aḥmad III's demands to hand him over. Amadu ordered Barth's death as an infidel. The Hamdullahi forces threatened him several times during his travels in the Middle Niger.

The struggle with Segu continued in the early part of his rule, and Amadu III continued to dispatch raids deep into Segu territory until 1855. He tried to gain control of Sinsani so he could use its forces in his conflict with Segu.

Conflict with Tukolor al-Hajj Umar Tall
The Tukolor religious and military leader al-Hajj 'Umar Tall, originally from Futa Toro, launched a jihad against unbelievers in 1853. He quickly overran many of the Bambara and Malinke states in the upper parts of the Senegal and Niger basins. After defeating the Bambara state of Kaarta in 1855, 'Umar proposed an alliance with Aḥmadu III to conquer the Bambara state of Segu. Aḥmadu may have suspected 'Umar's motives, and instead sent an army to attack 'Umar, which was defeated at Kassakeri in Kaarta by 'Umar's forces in 1856. Recognizing that the Masina troops were Muslim, 'Umar had their wounded treated and returned. This contrasted with his treatment of pagan prisoners.

After the defeat, one of Amadu's main advisors, al Hajj Seidou, urged him to make common cause with Bina 'Alī, the Fama (king) of Segu against 'Umar. When al-Hajj 'Umar attacked Segu in 1861, Aḥmadu III lent aid to Bina 'Alī on condition that he accept Islam. In January 1861 the Hamdullahi army was mobilized under the leadership of Ba Lobbo with 8,000 cavalry, 5,000 infantry and 1,000 musketeers and was joined at Tio, opposite Sinsani on the right bank of the Niger, by what was left of the Segu forces. In mid-February two fleets of canoes clashed in mid-stream. About 500 of Umar's troops attacked a village near Tio on their own initiative, were caught and destroyed. The next day Umar split his army into two wings, which crossed the river at night, crushed the forces of Masina and Segu at Tio and marched on to the capital of Segu. There they looted the treasures held in the Jara storehouses. In March 1861, Ba Lobbo regrouped his army and advanced towards Segu, but was defeated once more by 'Umar's forces.

'Umar faced criticism in his war against Masina, since its people were Muslims. As proof that 'Alī's conversion was a sham, 'Umar collected idols in Segu that had not been destroyed. 'Umar issued a Bayan in which he said that Ahmadu had accepted "a thousand mithqals of gold" in return for supporting 'Ali. In a public exchange of letters, 'Umar clearly demonstrated his superior Islamic learning. 'Umar may have been trying to win over the Tijanis under Ba Lobbo. An attempt to arrange peace between Aḥmadu III and 'Umar was not successful, and 'Umar invaded Masina.

Defeat and death
In 1862 'Umar advanced into Masina, receiving deserters and meeting little resistance. Amadu III was joined by the Kunta under Ahmad al-Bekkay, who had until then been his enemies but supported him in the face of aggression by a Muslim, which was contrary to the law. Before the decisive battle 'Umar proposed to fight a duel with Aḥmadu III, but the latter refused. Aḥmadu was defeated in battle on 15 May 1862, and 'Umar occupied Hamdallahi. Aḥmadu was captured and decapitated. Ba Lobbo briefly continued resistance against the Tokolor, but the death of Amadu III and the loss of Hamdullahi marked the end of the Massina Empire as an effective force in the region.

Despite al-Hajj 'Umar's eloquent justifications, the controversy over the war against the Muslim state of Masina continued after the death of Amadu III. A revolt broke out against 'Umar in 1863, and he was killed in 1864. Although 'Umar did not have time to establish control of Masina, his nephew al-Tijānī (Tidiani Tall) succeeded. It was not until 1897 that the French took control of the region.

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List of Eastern Orthodox bishops and archbishops

This is a list of Eastern Orthodox bishops and archbishops. See also Eastern Orthodox Church organization and Patriarch.

Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople

 * Archbishop of Constantinople (also the Patriarch)
 * Archbishop of America of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
 * Archbishop of Australia of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia
 * Archbishop of Crete of the Church of Crete
 * Archbishop of Toronto and Eastern Canada of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada
 * Archbishop of Edmonton and Western Canada of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada
 * Archbishop of Italy and Malta
 * Archbishop of Thyateira and Great Britain

Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch

 * Metropolitan of Antioch and Damascus (also the Patriarch)
 * Metropolitan of Akkar
 * Metropolitan of Aleppo (Beroea) and Alexandretta
 * Metropolitan of Beirut
 * Metropolitan of Bosra, Hauran and Jabal al-Arab
 * Metropolitan of Byblos and Batroun
 * Metropolitan of Homs (Emesa)
 * Metropolitan of Hama (Epiphania) and Exarchate of North Syria
 * Metropolitan of Latakia (Laodicea ad Mare) and Exarchate of Theodorias
 * Metropolitan of Zahleh and Baalbek (Heliopolis)
 * Metropolitan of Tripoli and Koura
 * Metropolitan of Tyre and Sidon
 * Metropolitan of Baghdad, Kuwait and Dependencies
 * Metropolitan of Australia, New Zealand and the Philippines
 * Metropolitan of France, Western and Southern Europe
 * Metropolitan of Germany and Central Europe
 * Metropolitan of the British Isles and Ireland
 * Metropolitan of North America (based in Englewood, New Jersey)

Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem

 * Archbishop of Gerasa
 * Archbishop of Tiberias
 * Archbishop of Abila
 * Archbishop of Joppa
 * Archbishop of Constantina
 * Archbishop of Mount Thabor
 * Archbishop of Jordan
 * Archbishop of Sebastia
 * Archbishop of Askalon
 * Archbishop of Diocaesarea
 * Archbishop of Mount Sinai and Raithu of the Church of Sinai

Georgian Orthodox Church

 * Archbishop of Mtskheta-Tbilisi (also the Patriarch)
 * Archbishop of Tsageri and Lentekhi
 * Archbishop of Bodbe
 * Archbishop of Stepantsminda and Khevi
 * Archbishop of Rustavi and Marneuli
 * Archbishop of Dmanisi, Agarak-Tashiri, Great Britain and Ireland

Serbian Orthodox Church

 * Archbishop of Peć (also the Patriarch)
 * Archbishop of Ohrid of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric

Romanian Orthodox Church

 * Archbishop of Bucharest (also the Patriarch)
 * Archbishop of Alba Iulia
 * Archishop of Arad
 * Archbishop of Argeș
 * Archbishop of Buzău
 * Archbishop of Chișinău
 * Archbishop of Cluj
 * Archbishop of Craiova
 * Archbishop of Iași
 * Archbishop of Lower Danube
 * Archbishop of Roman
 * Archbishop of Sibiu
 * Archbishop of Suceava
 * Archbishop of Târgoviște
 * Archbishop of Timișoara
 * Archbishop of Tomis (Constanţa)
 * Archbishop of Vâlcea

Bulgarian Orthodox Church

 * Metropolitan of Sofia (also the Patriarch)

Church of Cyprus

 * Archbishop of Nea Justiniana and All Cyprus

Church of Greece

 * Archbishop of Athens and all Greece

Albanian Orthodox Church

 * Archbishop of Tirana, Durrës and all Albania

Polish Orthodox Church

 * Archbishop of Warsaw (Metropolitan of All Poland)

Orthodox Church of the Czech Lands and Slovakia

 * Archbishop of Prague and Czech lands
 * Archbishop of Prešov and Slovakia

Finnish Orthodox Church

 * Archbishop of Helsinki and all Finland

Metropolitans in the Eastern Orthodox Communion

 * Metropolitan of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia
 * Metropolitan of Kiev (OCU)
 * Metropolitan of Korea
 * Metropolitan of New Zealand
 * Metropolitan of North America and Canada (OCA)
 * Metropolitanate of Singapore and South Asia
 * Metropolitan of Tallinn and All Estonia (EOCoMP)
 * Metropolitan of Tallinn and All Estonia (EAOC)
 * Metropolitans of Warsaw and Bielsk (POC)

Archbishops and Metropolitans of Eastern Orthodox Autocephalous Churches out of their jurisdiction

 * Archbishops of North America
 * Archbishops of Tokyo

Eastern Orthodox Bishops

 * Bishops of Bialystok and Gdansk
 * Bishops of Eagle River
 * Bishops of Lódz and Poznan
 * Bishops of Los Angeles and the West
 * Bishops of Lublin and Chelm
 * Bishops of Maardu
 * Bishops of Miami and the Southeast
 * Bishops of Narva
 * Bishops of New England
 * Bishops of New York and Washington D.C.
 * Bishops of Oakland and the East
 * Bishops of Ottawa, Eastern Canada and Upstate New York
 * Bishops of Pärnu and Saaremaa
 * Bishops of Przemysl and Nowy Sacz
 * Bishops of San Francisco and Los Angeles
 * Bishops of Tartu
 * Bishops of Toledo and the Midwest
 * Bishops of Wichita and Mid-America
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Wolf–Lundmark–Melotte

The Wolf–Lundmark–Melotte (WLM) is a barred irregular galaxy discovered in 1909 by Max Wolf, located on the outer edges of the Local Group. The discovery of the nature of the galaxy was accredited to Knut Lundmark and Philibert Jacques Melotte in 1926. It is in the constellation Cetus.

Properties
Wolf–Lundmark–Melotte is a rotating disk that is seen edge-on. It is relatively isolated from the rest of the Local Group, and does not seem to show much evidence of interaction. However, the rotation curve of Wolf–Lundmark–Melotte is asymmetrical, in that the receding side and approaching side of the galaxy are rotating in different ways.

Although isolated, Wolf–Lundmark–Melotte shows evidence of ram pressure stripping. It is far outside of the virial radius of the Milky Way, so it is possible that Wolf–Lundmark–Melotte is currently passing through some relatively dense medium.

Star formation
In 1994, A. E. Dolphin used the Hubble Space Telescope to create a color–magnitude diagram for WLM. It showed that around half of all the star formation in this galaxy occurred during a starburst that started ~13 Gyr ago. During the starburst, the metallicity of WLM rose from [Fe/H] ~ −2.2 to [Fe/H] −1.3. There being no horizontal-branch population, Dolphin concludes that no more than per Myr of star formation occurred in the period from 12 to 15 Gyr ago. From 2.5 to 9 Gyr ago, the mean rate of star formation was 100 to per Myr. Being at the edge of the Local Group has also protected WLM from interactions and mergers with other galaxies, giving it a "pristine" stellar population and state that make it particularly useful for comparative studies.

WLM is currently forming stars, as evidenced by clumps of newly formed stars visible in ultraviolet light. These clumps are about 20 to 100 light-years (7 to 30 parsecs) in size. The youngest clumps are found in the southern half of the galaxy, which has more star formation.

Observations by the James Webb Space Telescope
The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) has provided an unprecedentedly detailed view of the dwarf galaxy Wolf–Lundmark–Melotte (WLM), demonstrating its capability to resolve individual stars within the galaxy. This high-resolution imagery, part of the Webb Early Release Science (ERS) program 1334 led by Kristen McQuinn of Rutgers University, reveals the structure and composition of WLM with remarkable clarity compared to previous observations by the Spitzer Space Telescope. WLM is a relatively isolated dwarf galaxy located about 3 million light-years from Earth, notable for its chemically unenriched gas similar to that of early universe galaxies. This makes it an excellent subject for studying star formation and evolution in environments that resemble the early stages of galactic development.

Globular cluster
WLM has one known globular cluster (WLM-1) at 00:01:29.5 -15°27′51″ that Hodge et al. (1999) determined as having an absolute magnitude of −8.8 and a metallicity of –1.5, with an age of ~15 billion years. This cluster has a luminosity that is slightly over the average for all globulars. The seeming lack of faint low-mass globular clusters cannot be explained by the weak tidal forces of the WLM system.

References in popular culture
In E. E. Smith's Lensman novels, the "Second Galaxy" is identified as "Lundmark's Nebula". However, some believe the "Second Galaxy" may not be the Wolf–Lundmark–Melotte galaxy, since the first chapter of the first novel in the series (Triplanetary) and the series-establishing material appearing at the beginning of subsequent novels states that the "Second Galaxy" and the "First Galaxy" (the Milky Way) collided and passed through each other "edge-on" during the "planet-forming era"—implying that the "Lundmark's Nebula" of the series must necessarily be obscured from view by the Milky Way; however, according to others, it could have passed through at an angle and thus be identified with the galaxy described in this article; some have stated that this is the galaxy that E.E. Smith was thinking of when he wrote the series. However, the distance to Lundmark's nebula is defined quite precisely in Gray Lensman as approximately 24 million parsecs, much larger than the distance to Wolf–Lundmark–Melotte (approximately 930,000 parsecs). Additionally, in Second Stage Lensmen multiple references are made to the spiral arms of Lundmark's Nebula. Wolf–Lundmark–Melotte does not possess such structures. At the time of writing of these books, the name of Lundmark was associated with such classifications and Smith may have elected to use this as a "believable" name for an entirely fictional galaxy.

At the time the Lensman series was written, most astronomers favored the tidal theory of Solar System formation, which required that planets be formed by the close approach of another star. In order to produce the massive numbers of planets necessary to evolve into galactic civilizations in both the Milky Way and Lundmark's Nebula, as portrayed in the Lensman series, E.E. Smith thought it would have been necessary for another galaxy to have passed through the Milky Way to produce the large number of close encounters necessary to form so many planets.

The Doctor Who novel Synthespians™ by Craig Hinton refers to the New Earth Republic of the 101st Century and beyond, which spearheads a programme of colonisation, sending sleeper ships to the Wolf-Lundmark-Melotte galaxy and Andromeda.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sashanan

Sashanan
 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Redwolf24 01:24, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Hilarious XD. And TRUE TOO! o_o Sashanan touched me once. ;-; I tried to tell CJayC, but he acted like it was MY fault!!! :runs away crying:

 * Delete-the entire purpose of this entry was to insult a GameFAQs mod. Not only does this have absolutely no basis in fact, but it is also made by some very disgruntled people.  This should be deleted.

 * The only thing Google brings up when you search for "Sashanan" is the GF mod and sites were he has been a member - Delete this useless entry

 * Basically a joke insult page about a well-known Gamefaqs poster. No value whatsoever.204.60.63.109 21:33, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Totally without any basis in fact. Just a joke entry designed to be very mean.
 * As funny as it is, it's indeed a joke page that's made up.
 * I propose we preserve this page as a example of "How to design well-made joke articles."
 * I propose that, although there may very well be a "famous" GameFAQs user (if such thing exists) who is aware of the myth, that a definition of such a myth is not inherently "insulting" to anyone who uses this, online. The name is also used (derived from the original Dutch mythology) in Quest for Glory 2, which presumably explains the provenance of the name on such a site. It is hardly appropriate if, for example, someone who uses "Mr Punch" as a username online should complain to Wikipedia about the appalling level of violence associated with such a name, on this site. The value of this article, too, is to educate those who have no idea of such a folklore figure, which seems to number in the threes.

 * I agree with the sentiment that the article should be preserved to educate those who don't know the Dutch mythology. Just because it's some "famous GameFAQs user" took the name Sashanan doesn't mean that the article should be deleted. For instance, "Cthulhu" is a mythological god that many users on message boards take for a username. Cthulhu isn't necessarily a favorable god since he has been rumored to be a "devourer of souls." If someone complained from another internet message board saying that the article on Cthulhu should be removed because it portrays them in a negative light, I highly doubt the artcle would be removed. This is because, just like Sashanan, Cthulhu is a character rooted in mythology and perhaps the user that chose that name should have thought more into it before doing so. In conclusion, I believe that this article should remain on Wikipedia, regardless of whether some "GameFAQs" user took the name without knowing its full meaning. Thank you.

 * Delete- No value as an article. No sources are cited, and the latter paragraphs make it apparent it's a joke.Toffile

 * Delete - There is no such mythological figure, dutch or otherwise. Those arguments would be fantastic if there were actually any root in reality of the entry.  Instead, it is a well-written but completely fallacious article.  None of the statements about Dutch mythology have any basis in history.  They are just handily written to be a malicious jab at an individual.
 * Delete notability not established. JamesBurns 08:33, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Just because a myth is not well-known ("no such mythological figure") doesn't seem like a very good reason to erase it from Wikipedia. Surely the purpose of such a site as this is to educate and inform, even about even mythic figures? Even those who exist through fairy-tales, passed down by word of mouth ("have any basis in history"). It seems unfortunate that such oral history and culture should be erased from existence, merely because it isn't "written down".

 * Oral history and culture are important to be sure. However, this particular "legend" is not oral history or culture in the traditional sense.  It is not old.  It hasn't been passed down through generations.  It is merely a product of a clever mind and its desemination is a disservice to the users of the site and a black mark on the idea of wiki journalism.  The fact that without any substantiation or documentation purely fanciful and incorrect information is allowed to be posted without review is a serious cause for concern for the idea of a wiki fact site.  Just because something isn't written down doesn't mean that there is no substantiation.  Other oral histories, myths and fairy tales are documented through cultural studies - not necessarily written down by those continuing the oral tradition.  Just because you claim that something has basis in historic mythology doesn't mean that it actually has it.

 * Why don't you sign your comments so that we can see who you are? It doesn't lend your arguments much credibility if you refuse to make yourselves known as the source. CNash 22:21, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * And for the record, guys, changing someone's personal comments after they've written them is puerile and pathetic. CNash 21:31, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm dutch, and I've never heard of anything like this before. In fact, even the image is just a photoshopped picture of the mod. If there really is a mythological figure called Sashanan, then it's nothing like the description says.

 * Delete. Not notable. TheCoffee 08:19, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

 * It may not be as widely known, or as photographed (it is considered impossible to capture his image using conventional photography) as the Loch Ness monster ("It is not old. It hasn't been passed down through generations") or such myths which have a more factual basis, but raising awareness of such myths seems to be of value to our culture, rather than something which is worthy of censure. The Yeti, Sasquatch etc are not considered worthy of Wiki-deletion, merely because they may, or may not, resemble many users of the internet. ("In fact, even the image is just a photoshopped picture of the mod") Without being able to compare the two, has it ever occurred to you that the person in question may have knowingly named himself after the legendary beast; perhaps because he was aware of any similarities between himself and the creature? Complaining that myths have a fantastic, almost mythic quality (!) seems as silly as complaining about use of photoshop when handling photos. Sashanan

 * Delete and consider censuring the original poster not only for an elaborate hoax, but for the most appalling display of sockpuppetry ever foisted on Wikipedia. This is just wrong. - Lucky 6.9 16:50, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

 * ("an elaborate hoax") Aren't Bigfoot et al considered in precisely such a way? These myths are not considered worthy of deletion, merely because many people are aware of the myth. It seems a pity to delete less widely-known myths, simply because they are not quite so well known. Hopefully, Wikipedia exists to inform people about things which may not necessarily be part of common currency? ("appalling display of sockpuppetry") If mentioning Punch and Judy is now worthy of censure, it should be of concern to all Wikipedians. Sashanan 17:50, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I Googled the name "Sashanan." Know what I got?  Nothing, and I mean nothing but hits referring back to the GameFAQs user.  Same results Googling "Sashanan myth."  No mythological info whatsoever.  However, I'm keeping an open mind.  If you can point me to a legitimate website stating that Sashanan is indeed part of Dutch mythology, I will gladly and immediately change my vote and offer my sincerest apologies for accusing you of a hoax.  You're right about one thing:  This site does exist to inform of things that are not widely known yet remain notable.  A mythological creature with a long history is more than worthy of inclusion, even though it may be nearly unknown outside its area of origin. - Lucky 6.9 19:54, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Not only does there have to be an actual "Sashanan" in Dutch mythology for this to be an appropriate entry, there needs to be a correlation between the description listed in the entry and a scholarly definition. As this description is tailored exactly to the individual user on GameFAQs, I highly doubt that such a correlation exists.  At the very least this is a highly inaccurate description and at the worst, it is libelous.  Certainly the link to the "blog" contains libelous material including a despicable phone conversation between a member of "LUELinks" and the father of the GameFAQs user Sashanan.  I don't know what forms of censure are available on wikipedia but I feel that the author of this article should be subject to the most severe possible.  Not only is this article likely false, but it is written in such a way that because of its excellent construction and brave exposition of "facts" it manages to fool some people and maintain a false guise of legitimacy.  132.239.153.57 20:15, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

 * ("If you can point me to a legitimate website stating that Sashanan is indeed part of Dutch mythology") Is Wikipedia not a legitimate site? It's a pity that to be considered legitimate for certain Wikipedians, something must be universally known. These clear, demonstrable facts are clearly what makes such figures as Bigfoot so worthy of their entries. ("At the very least this is a highly inaccurate description and at the worst, it is libelous") It would be diffiicult to libel a mythic figure. It is probably causing the supreme court nightmares, with the potential claims from Bigfoot, Yeti, the Loch Ness monster ("I've been defamed in this Scottish lake for years! I don't even like haggis!") etc in the works. ("brave exposition of "facts") The entry contains few, if any facts. It deals with mythology, the perception of truth, which has little primacy - merely accounts from those who (perhaps) claim that their version of the myth is more correct. If someone uses their imagination to overcome child abuse, which is what these stories most likely are, then who are we to deny them such mythic crutches? ("I Googled the name Sashanan") It would be interesting if you disputed the accuracy for the Wikipedia entry for "God", on grounds that nobody has been able to contact, or has seen, him directly, and that his website and email address are not available through search engines such as google. Sashanan

 * ("Is Wikipedia not a legitimate site?") That is riduculous.  You can't assert that your entry is real by referring to your entry for corroboration.  You can't pick yourself up in a bucket by pulling on the handles.  Further, you state at one point that there are "clear, demonstrable facts" yet later mention that the entry contains "few if any facts."  Which is it?  24.165.29.82 05:18, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

 * For all interested parties: the name "Sashanan" was created by Sierra, Inc., a computer software company, in the early 1990s. The character Sashanan first appeared in one of the sequels to the "Quest for Glory" video game series. This is the origin of the name, not any mythology. Feel free to contact Sierra, or any current holder of Sierra's intellectual properties, for all the corraboration you might need. 68.47.80.157 05:27, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

 * ("by referring to your entry for corroboration") The poster concerned asked for a "legitimate" site where Sashanan was defined. Is this not such a site? I have no idea whether this is corroborative, or not. But I have many sources available which will lend some, small credence to this myth. If you accept that this is even possible to do? ("This is the origin of the name") I am uncertain whether such companies will admit to hijacking such myths. But it seems as if you accept that this myth has currency outside of a GameFAQs user, which seems to be the central complaint in this thread. ("you state at one point that there are "clear, demonstrable facts") If you look at the entry, you will be able to see that I refer (in an entirely non-ironic way) to the "clear, demonstrable facts" surrounding such myths as Bigfoot, the Yeti and the Loch Ness monster. Doubtless you'd agree that such non-existent facts are what make them worthy of a Wikipedia entry? Some entries on Wikipedia have no basis in any actual, demonstrable reality. Yet they still exist. It seems curious that you'd seek to deny this entry its existence, based on its supposed fantasticness. Sashanan 16:28, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

 * ("If you look at the entry, you will be able to see that I refer (in an entirely non-ironic way) to the "clear, demonstrable facts" surrounding such myths as Bigfoot, the Yeti and the Loch Ness monster") Your entry also implied that there are similar "clear, demonstrable facts" available for the "Sashanan myth."  I assert that there are none other than the ones you or your cronies invent. 24.165.29.82 21:21, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

 * ("Your entry also implied that there are similar "clear, demonstrable facts" available for the Sashanan myth") My entries have never mentioned any such thing, and have always maintained that there are few demonstrable truths in the make-up of made-up, mythic beasts, it is one reason why they have such a name. As far as having "cronies" goes, this is something you've produced from your own imagination. I am writing a book about the mythology "Lesser known fables - Aesop to Ziethor" of less well known folk figures, such as the Sashanan, and many of my sources will be available to view; once I receive permission, and approval of the translations etc. I hope these will be enough to corroborate what I believe to be an interesting myth, which has already seen quite some interest - judging from the responses to this thread. And that Wikipedians will allow some, small licence to explore areas of the human experience outside of the mainstream, since most of the things that happen on the fringes are quite fascinating in their own way. Few would seek to deny the entries on such subjects as UFOs, merely because they are mentioned in quite so many computer game sites and such. Sashanan 11:14, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I will kindly ask that you drop this charade. You know as well as I do that there is no such myth. The fact is: Sashanan is the name used by a GameFAQs moderator, who happens to be Dutch. This "myth" is simply part of a series of attacks on him that started on the GameFAQs boards approximately one month ago, and has clearly extended beyond them. The characteristics of the so-called "mythological figure" stem from some particularly nasty rumors that were a part of these attacks. Thus, this article has no basis in reality. Thank you.

The above is that user's first edit...and I find myself in total agreement. Let's end this ASAP. "Fudge-packing" and "pedophilia" scream that this is an attack page. - Lucky 6.9 20:58, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

 * ("The fact is:") This entry has no connection to anything except the myth concerned. Far from being connected to some anonymous user of some other, anonymous website, it seems that the myth has enough currency outside of itself to have been used as a pseudonym. It seems that you have already had a confession that the name was derived from a software company - who, in turn, derived the name from the myth honestly outlined here. Why you'd think that someone naming their account after a mythic figure is so difficult to believe would require quite an explanation. It would be impossible to connect someone, for example, who chooses to use the username "God" to any actual deity of this name. Although it would be an equally impressive to hear of such an individual attempting to delete the entry for "God" on Wikipedia, by claiming that he'd been insulted by such a comparison. Which he first made himself, by naming something as substantial as a pseudononymous account after a mythic figure. The purpose of Wikipedia is presumably to help educate people still? I can only apologise if my paltry words are not up to such a task. Sashanan 22:02, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

 * You make the assertion that the software company took the name from the "myth" without any basis. Your arguments are wasting the time of people and your stated cause to have this remain is mendacious.  The difference between "God" and "Sashanan" is that there are actually other people who have heard of god in the context of a deity whereas "Sashanan" is solely the creation of a game company and subsequently the name taken by the user of a website.  Not a myth.  132.239.153.57 23:18, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

 * ("the software company took the name from the "myth" without any basis") You accept, then, that the individual you mention was not the originator of the name? I agree with you, though, that the name is widely know - and in the public domain. This is purely because of the mythic connections, which seem to be well known to those who have invested some time in researching such myths, at least. ("your stated cause to have this remain is mendacious") My aim is to educate those who have yet to hear of such a myth, which is hopefully something that Wikipedia still encourages. Particularly since (as this thread demonstrates) there are still some people who have yet to hear about the origins of such myths. It is a pity that you seek to deny everyone on this site the chance to educate themselves about something which you confess isn't very widely known. ("there are actually other people who have heard of god") Well, I can't complain that the provenance of god is so widespread. It is a pity that Wikipedia, via you, seeks to deny anyone the means to educate themselves about the origins of the Sashanan. Just because something is not widely appreciated, like such realistic figures as Santa Claus, does not make it any less worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia. Perhaps I have more faith that topics which appear on the fringes are equally worthy of attention, but it would not be a great surprise to find that such pages are considered a waste of Wikipedia space. It's a pity, so far as the breadth of human understanding is concerned, however. Perhaps when Microsoft own this site, the generic entries will make everyone far more happy. Sashanan

 * Strong Delete This is vandalism. Unfortunately, it's subtle vandalism which makes it a pain to deal with.   Sashanan, please consider contributing to Wikipedia in a positive way.  Friday 15:51, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

 * DELETE, this is just total video game jibberish. Voice of All(MTG) 05:27, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

 * It would be interesting to discover what has been "vandalised" precisely? The original entry ("A pivotal figure in Dutch mythology, known also as the "goblin van de nacht", or "goblin of the night". Typical folk stories involving him featured him tempting children with sweets and making them his slaves, and they were often used to scare children into not misbehaving.") has been left largely unchanged. The additions have expanded the original entry, providing readers with more substance and some background about the origins and developments to the myth. I can only hope that providing information is still considered as a "positive" contribution to Wikipedia, even if the myth is not yet widespread enough to be readily accepted by everyone? Sashanan 20:37, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

 * You're only fooling yourself now. The "blog" link contained in the article is certainly a clear indicator as to the article's true purpose, and it destroys your story's credibility entirely. Realize that Wikipedia is not a place for carrying on such childish vendettas. 64.252.230.207 07:27, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Recommend: Delete. Utter nonsense relating to a series of personal attacks on GameFAQs moderator Sashanan (unrelated to the Wikipedia user of the same name) that occured earlier this month. CNash 11:16, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

 * ("a clear indicator as to the article's true purpose") The article's true purpose is to provide some information about a mythic figure. ("Utter nonsense") It seems of slightly questionable merit to complain that mythic figures do not tally exactly with your own, earnest outlook on life. These myths are rarely meant to be cosy tales. The stories seem designed both to challenge our values and act as a warning to children. In this respect, the Sashanan seems to fulfil the needs which such myths are founded on. ("on GameFAQs moderator Sashanan") Although there have been complaints that someone has used the name on a computer games site, they seem almost arbitrary ones. It is hardly Wikipedia's concern, whether users of external sites use such usernames, even more fantastic that there are any complaints about the myths that are the basis of such names. ("Let's end this ASAP. "Fudge-packing" and "pedophilia" scream that this is an attack") Similarly, complaining that confectionary (Hansel and Gretel) or paedophilia (Red Riding Hood) should dare to be mentioned in relation to yet another mythic figure seems like a unique grievance. The myth existed long before the internet was invented and will hopefully last until Microsoft's internet XP is released. In the meantime, I have provided a typical account of a confrontation with the Sashanan on the discussion page, and am prepared to use similar quotes from my book (as sources) once it is published. Sashanan 19:07, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I notice that you dodged my point about the "blog" entirely. 64.252.220.159 20:11, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, I have now checked the history of this article and have a couple more points. For one, earlier versions of the article referenced GameFAQs directly.
 * Second, and more important, I looked up the creator of the original article. They were only identified by an IP address, however, a look at the IP's talk page informs us that the IP is registered to a UK internet provider. Meanwhile, the personal attacks on GameFAQs moderator Sashanan mentioned earlier were perpetrated by a group of GameFAQs users from the UK.
 * This needs to end now. 64.252.222.72 22:48, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I also think this is disgusting, I was extremely afraid of Sashanan as a child, and I certainly don't want to be scared as an adult.

 * Recommended: keep. A user on an external site using the name of this mythic beast pseudononymously seems like one of the most incredible reasons to delete an article that has ever been produced. Fortunately for my delicate sensibilities, it doesn't offend me to be linked with my own research. ("the IP is registered to a UK internet provider") It seems like a sensible precaution to prohibit anyone who dares to exist in the UK from contributing to this site. It ensures that well-researched, and "well-written" articles have little chance of appearing on these pages. It will be a pity, although exacting and appropriate, to have entries for such insignificant persons as Shakespeare, TE Lawrence and Churchill deleted. ("I notice that you dodged my point about the "blog"") It's fortunate for us, that few facts escape your attention. Luckily, the blog makes up part of the developing mythology, and has already been put into context by the article. Most, and perhaps all, myths which exist to frighten us will eventually, and perhaps always have been, a source of this kind of questionable, black humour; as earlier references to Punch and Judy make clear. It seems as if (even for no other reason) that these blogs are a way to reiterate and expand the mythology, since it is little known, outside (and seemingly inside) the Netherlands. Although it is yet another source which exists to expand on the ancient myth - and put it into a modern context. I prefer to think of it as being a modern variant of the oral tradition which such myths are founded on; or the way these myths are developed, in part, because of gossip. A pity, so far as I am concerned at least, that this is considered so worthy of censorship. It would be interesting to have your opinion on the bare-faced, wholly factual truth contained in such pages as Bigfoot, Yeti and Loch ness monster, however? ("This needs to end now") Education needs to end now? This is likely to be Dubya's next campaign slogan. Sashanan
 * You aren't fooling anyone anymore, you know. I, for one, am tired of my intelligence being insulted.  Oh, and keep the anti-Bush rhetoric to yourself.  It isn't the least bit funny. - Lucky 6.9 21:12, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I find it rather amusing that you continue to simply dance around all the points brought up. It is quite clear that you are only trying to mislead. To make things perfectly clear, the "blog" page not only contains links to the LiveJournal site of the GameFAQs user Sashanan, but down near the bottom are multiple entries about being a GameFAQs moderator. It is quite foolish to claim that it is anything other than a series of insults.

 * ("to simply dance around all the points brought up") I have attempted to address each and every concern which has been raised in connection to the mythology surrounding the Sashanan. Most of these concerns seem to be centred around an anonymous user of a computer games site, who named himself after the mythic beast. It is unfortunate that so many people feel that he has somehow insulted himself, by linking to the mythic creature so explicitly. There has already been a confession that this user was not the originator of the name and that it appears in many other sources. I have simply tried to expand on the actual origins of such myths. It's a pity that my attempts to educate people about such subjects is met with the resistance shown here. Why do you find it so difficult to open your mind to something outside of the everyday and the black and white? ("To make things perfectly clear, the "blog" page not only contains links to the LiveJournal site of the GameFAQs user Sashanan") There have been no links made to any blogs produced by a user named Sashanan whatsoever, by myself. Since I have not been able to find such a blog, online. I have, however, received explicit permission to link to the blog used in the entry. Can you explain why you'd have a problem with expanding the myth, and putting it into a modern context for internet users - which is the point of such links? ("Oh, and keep the anti-Bush rhetoric to yourself") Wikipedia makes it clear that you might find "terse, gruff, and abrupt" language and "that it is about the article, not about you" in discussions about deleted entries. It's nothing personal, you understand. Unless you happen to be the President concerned? Insofar as your own abusive efforts go, I would refer you here: "I, for one, am tired of my intelligence being insulted" I hope that you will see that it is intelligent users who should appreciate such entries, and be delighted that Wikipedia still welcomes those open-minded enough to encourage the development of such imaginative myths. Sashanan 16:10, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

 * It seems that you have proven my point completely. Anyone who visits the supposed "blog" will see the links to GF user Sashanan's LiveJournal, in plain view, at the top of the page. Furthermore, you neglect to explain the direct references to GameFAQs in the entries near the bottom of the page, in addition to the URL itself. (CJayC is the founder of GameFAQs.) There is no concern at all with any "mythology" at all, simply an attack. It has been shown quite clearly throughout the course of this discussion that there is no Sashanan myth, yet you continue to defend this collection of lies and personal attacks with convoluted replies that give no real information.

 * This should make things a little clearer. "Sashanan", unless you can give a vaild link to a reputable source outside of Wikipedia that comments on "the Sashanan" (known web page, ISBN or title for a book, etc.), then I may assert that this page falls under the category of Original Research and is thus disallowed by Wikipedia policy. See also: Verifiability. CNash 22:34, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

 * ("will see the links to GF user Sashanan's LiveJournal") No such link exists, so far as I am aware. ("Furthermore, you neglect to explain the direct references to GameFAQs in the entries near the bottom of the page") No such references exist in the current entry, so far as I am aware. ("There is no concern at all with any "mythology" at all") There is a great deal of concern with the mythology of such a figure, since this is what the article is all about. ("unless you can give a valid link to a reputable source outside of Wikipedia") I have given a number of published sources, if you accept that a blog can be cited as such. Ditto to the videogame. If these are not acceptable, then my own research will be published soon - and it doesn't seem too presumptuous to give Wikipedians the chance to stay ahead of the traditional print media. I've always considered that the number of news stories which appear on the front pages of this site demonstrate that Wikipedia is more than the dry, dusty encyclopedia that some users would prefer it to be. ("ISBN or title for a book, etc") CNash, you've already stated that the name appears in "the pages of European Mythological Gods and Goddesses" and that "this is in fact a true mythological figure", which sounds like you've already verified for yourself that the myth exists. And in what sounds like an authoritative tome, too. Sashanan 08:12, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Claiming to have not seen the links or the references mentioned indicates that you either have not even read the "blog" page, or are simply lying. Meanwhile, you also appear to have ignored the links posted by CNash. The "blog" is not a reputable source of information, and more importantly, it makes no assertions regarding a "mythological figure" whatsoever. Referencing the videogame is also pointless, as you cannot prove that its creators derived the name Sashanan from your supposed "myth." And even if you are writing a book on the subject that has yet to be published, this still falls under the category of Original Research as CNash has stated. Even if your stated intention is to "give Wikipedians the chance to stay ahead of the traditional print media," the article is prohibited by Wikipedia policy.
 * And regarding your last point, I see no statement by CNash on this page stating verification of your myth. Nice try. 64.252.221.212 09:47, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

 * ("indicates that you either have not even read the "blog" page") I have the blog open in another browser tab. Perhaps you can direct me to where the supposed link to this other blog exists? Doubtless you have made an honest mistake? ("Meanwhile, you also appear to have ignored the links posted by CNash") Au contraire: ("I see no statement by CNash on this page stating verification of your myth. Nice try") Naturally, I don't have your kind of bare-faced honesty or those finely-honed observational skills. Perhaps can apply them, by pointing your brain here: Nice, as they say, try. Sashanan 19:08, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

 * As I have mentioned before, changing someone's personal comments after they've written them is puerile and pathetic. This argument is going nowhere; you're a common troll, and continuing to argue the point is futile. The vote tally is against you; I suggest that we wait for arbitration. CNash 21:01, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Nice work editing the "blog" page to include an entry on your "mythology." Directly below all of the blatant GameFAQs references you claim you can not see. Also, nice work removing the most obvious link to Sashanan's LJ. This work only serves to show that it is worthless as an information source. Let's do as CNash suggests, and simply wait. 64.252.220.25 23:46, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

 * ("This argument is going nowhere") It seems as if the argument, if not the silly, sock puppet tally, is going against you. Your main concern seems to be the feelings of some anonymous user of some computer games site, who has named themselves after the myth I have been careless enough to have outlined. Why this should be cause for censorship is a mystery to me. I was delighted to have discovered, after seeing the original entry, that someone else had heard about the Sashanan myth and I have merely tried to expand on the entry - and provide some further background information. These efforts to make Wikipedia a more exhaustive source of information have been deemed not good enough, seemingly because they go some small way in confirming the existence of the myth. Which is deemed "puerile" and "well-written" amongst other things. ("As I have mentioned before, changing someone's personal comments after they've written them is puerile and pathetic") All of the editing that I've done should be obvious, not least from my unique linguistic style. I can only assume that you have changed your mind since you originally posted your comments, for reasons best explained by yourself, to yourself. I have remained consistent in trying to preserve an interesting myth, and I have not changed the comments of anyone whatsoever. ("Also, nice work removing the most obvious link to Sashanan's LJ") As far as I am aware, no such link exists on the blog. Or has ever existed. I can vaguely recall there being a few links to some other blank pages a while ago, but they seem to have disappeared - possibly because of their irrelevance? You would be better off asking the person who maintains the blog, who might be able to provide you with some other facts about the mythology? But feel free to provide a link to this other non-mythic blog, you mentioned, if you believe it is relevant in any way? Sashanan 17:59, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

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Armored Trooper Votoms

Armored Trooper VOTOMS (装甲騎兵ボトムズ) is a Japanese military science fiction mecha anime series produced by Nippon Sunrise, created and directed by Ryosuke Takahashi and featuring mechanical designs by Kunio Okawara. Following directly in the footsteps of Takahashi's previous series, Fang of the Sun Dougram, VOTOMS continued the trend towards hard science in the mecha anime subgenre.

The series was supplemented by numerous original video animation releases, and also inspired a number of spin-off works whose media ranges from serialized light novels to video games. The TV anime was originally licensed by the now-defunct Central Park Media, which released the series on DVD and VHS. Currently, it is licensed by Maiden Japan, a unit of Section23 Films, which has also released all OVAs other than Armor Hunter Mellowlink.

Plot
In the Astragius Galaxy, the Gilgamesh and Balarant nations had until recently been locked in a century-old galactic war whose cause was long ago forgotten. Now, the war is ending and an uneasy truce has settled. The main weapon of the conflict is the common Armored Trooper, a mass-produced humanoid combat vehicle piloted by a single soldier. Both the Armored Troopers and their pilots are also known as VOTOMS (Vertical One-man Tank for Offense & ManeuverS). However, since Armored Troopers have extremely thin armor, and use a highly combustible liquid in their artificial muscle, their pilots have a very low chance of survival and are commonly referred to instead as "Bottoms", the lowest of the low ("Votoms" and "Bottoms" are written and pronounced the same way in Japanese).

The series follows a main character named Chirico Cuvie, a special forces Armored Trooper pilot and former member of the Red Shoulder Battalion, an elite force used by the Gilgamesh Confederation in its war against the Balarant Union. Chirico is suddenly transferred to a unit engaged in a suspicious mission, unaware that he is aiding in the theft of secrets from what appears to be his side. Chirico is betrayed and left behind to die, but he survives, is arrested by the Gilgamesh military as a traitor, and is tortured for information on their homeworld. He escapes, triggering a pursuit extending across the entire series, with Chirico hunted by the army and criminals alike as he seeks the truth behind the operation. He is especially driven to discover the truth of one of the objects he was assigned to retrieve in that operation: a mysterious and beautiful woman who would become his sole clue to unraveling the galactic conspiracy.

Development
Ryōsuke Takahashi conceived of VOTOMS after watching the film Junior Bonner, in which the main character travels across towns performing rodeo shows, which gave Takahashi the idea of creating a story in a post-war setting, with mechs fighting each other for sport. Although several authors have noted similarities between Chirico and Steve McQueen, who played the main character in Junior Bonner, Takahashi stated that Chirico was not modeled after anyone in particular.

Armored Troopers VOTOMS (TV series)
A 1983 52-episode anime television series.

Cast

 * Hozumi Gōda as Chirico Cuvie
 * Kazuko Yanaga as Fyana
 * Kōsei Tomita as Bouleuse Gotho
 * Yōko Kawanami as Coconna
 * Shigeru Chiba as Vanilla Vartla
 * Issei Masamune as Ru Shako
 * Kyonosuke Kami as Ypsilon
 * Yūsaku Yara as Maj. Gimual Iskui
 * Kenichi Ogata as Maj. Serge Borough, Albert Killy
 * Akio Nojima as Aaron Schmittel
 * Issei Futamata as Gurran Schmittel
 * Shunji Yamada as 2nd Lt. Kudal Conin
 * Banjō Ginga as Cap. Jean-Paul Rochina

The Last Red Shoulder
Armored Trooper Votoms: The Last Red Shoulder (装甲騎兵ボトムズ ザ・ラストレッドショルダー) is a 50-minute OVA released on August 21, 1985. The storyline takes place after the Woodoo storyline in the TV series. It details Chirico meeting with his old comrades in his old military unit, and their plan to get revenge on General Pailsen.

The Big Battle
A 1986 60-minute OVA. Takes place near the end of the series. The storyline features Chirico and his comrades participating in a mecha gladiatorial match.

The Red Shoulder Document - Origin of Ambition
Armored Trooper VOTOMS: The Red Shoulder Document - Origin of Ambition (装甲騎兵ボトムズ レッドショルダードキュメント 野望のルーツ), released as just Origin of Ambition by Maiden Japan, is a 60-minute OVA released in 1988. The storyline serves as a prequel to the main series and especially The Last Red Shoulder. It details Chirico's time in the Red Shoulder elite military unit and his encounters with General Pailsen.

Armor Hunter Mellowlink
Armor Hunter Mellowlink (機甲猟兵メロウリンク) is a twelve episode anime science fiction action OVA series spinoff of Armored Trooper Votoms. It premiered on November 21, 1988. It takes place in the same universe (and time, and in some episodes, almost the same places) as Votoms, but the two stories are entirely independent of each other.

Mellowlink is the story of a soldier whose unit is sacrificed on the battlefield for reasons unknown. Although he was not meant to survive, the main character, Ality Mellowlink, manages to survive only to be framed for a crime he did not commit. Mellowlink escapes his captors and begins hunting down his former commanding officers, both to get revenge for his dead platoon members and to find out the nature of the conspiracy that led to his and their deaths.

The series is available for download on Bandai Visual's official website and the Japanese DVD box set was released on December 6, 2006. The series was previously issued twice on laserdisc, once as six individual volumes, and once as a three-disc box set along with the two soundtracks. It was released on Blu-ray as part of the Perfect Soldier Box on February 25, 2021.

Brilliantly Shining Heresy
Armored Trooper VOTOMS: Brilliantly Shining Heresy (装甲騎兵ボトムズ 赫奕たる異端) is a 5-episode OVA series released in 1994. It is a sequel to the original TV series.

Pailsen Files
Armored Trooper VOTOMS: Pailsen Files (装甲騎兵ボトムズ ペールゼン・ファイルズ) is a 12-episode OVA series that was released from October 26, 2007 to August 22, 2008. It was also released as a feature film on January 17, 2009. It is a prequel to the main series and a sequel to Origin of Ambition.

Phantom Arc
Armored Trooper VOTOMS: Phantom Arc (装甲騎兵ボトムズ 幻影篇), released as Genei ~ Phantom Arc by Maiden Japan, is a six-part OVA series that was released from March 26, 2010 to October 27, 2010. It is a sequel to the original TV series and Shining Heresy.

Case; Irvine
Armored Trooper VOTOMS Case;Irvine (ケース;アービン), an OVA that follows the story of Irvine Lester, a repairer of the tank-like robotic Armored Trooper (AT) mecha in the VOTOMS story world.

Votoms Finder
Votoms Finder (ボトムズファインダー), an "alternate universe" OVA that centers around Aki Tesuno, a Bottoms guard for scrap salvagers and a pilot of a robotic mecha called an At or Altro (as opposed to VOTOMS' trademark Armored Trooper mecha).

Alone Again
Armored Trooper VOTOMS: Alone Again (装甲騎兵ボトムズ 孤影再び), released as Chirico's Return by Maiden Japan, is a 2011 50-minute OVA that serves as sequel to the Shining Heresy and prequel to the Phantom Arc.

Video games
VOTOMS has appeared in numerous video games since the series' original airing.
 * X68000: Dead Ash
 * PC8801: Black Unicorn
 * PC-9801: Votoms: The Real Battle
 * Super Famicom: Votoms - The Battling Road
 * PlayStation: Blue Sabre Knights
 * PlayStation: Armored Trooper Votoms - Uoodo and Kummen
 * PlayStation: Brave Saga (as a guest character)
 * PlayStation: Armored Trooper Votoms Lightning Slash
 * PlayStation: Armored Trooper Votoms Steel Force
 * PlayStation: Brave Saga 2 (as a guest character)
 * Dreamcast: Sunrise Eiyuutan (as a guest character)
 * PlayStation 2: Sunrise Eiyuutan 2 (as a guest character)
 * WonderSwan: Harobots (as a guest character)
 * Game Boy Color: GB Harobots (as a guest character)
 * Game Boy Color: Brave Saga Shinsou Astaria (as a guest character)
 * PlayStation 2: Soukou Kihei Votoms / Armored Trooper Votoms
 * PlayStation Portable: Super Robot Wars Z2: Hakai-Hen (as a guest character)
 * PlayStation Portable: Super Robot Wars Z2: Saisei-Hen (as a guest character)
 * PlayStation Portable: Super Robot Wars OE (as a guest character)
 * PlayStation 3/PlayStation Vita: Super Robot Wars Z3: Jigoku-Hen (as a guest character)
 * PlayStation 4/Nintendo Switch: Super Robot Wars T (as a guest character)

For a limited time, the Armored Trooper Votoms - Uoodo and Kummen game included a Red Shoulder Custom model. Chirico also figures in the Sunrise Eiyuutan (Sunrise Heroes) game for the PlayStation 2.

Role-playing
VOTOMS was a direct inspiration for the Heavy Gear role-playing game. VOTOMS also has its own official role-playing game, Armored Trooper VOTOMS: The Roleplaying Game, developed by R. Talsorian Games and using the Fuzion system.

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Talk:Cool jazz

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Aren't West Coast jazz and Cool jazz similar enough to have West Coast jazz be a redirect to Cool jazz? The only cool jazz I know of that's not West COast would be Birth of the Cool by Miles Davis. There are probably many more but are they significant? Spalding 21:34, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * No, they're not similar enough; one is called West coast - that's pretty specific. Furthermore I'd say anyone that lumps Davis, Konitz and Brubeck/Desmond into the same category of style is either smoking something or has obtuse ears.  At the very least, I must say I'd never heard of Chamber jazz, Calypso jazz, Mini-jazz or Nu jazz before coming to Wikipedia, but I knew about West coast jazz and could easily distinguish it from Cool.  If nobody else does, I'll eventually do the West coast jazz article myself and clear it all up. ¦ Reisio 01:05, 2005 July 21 (UTC)

So, where to now?
I copyedited the hell out of the article, and I think much of what was wrong with it is fixed; but there's still a lot more to be written, and that'll take editors who know more about the cool jazz specifics then I do. Anyone? SingCal 01:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC) —— cool and west coast are the same style. i also noticed that this genre is not even listed in the main JAZZ article. I think this should be included. azra'el 21:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC)Azrael dragon 02 October 2006

Just a minor edit, I removed pen15 from the "See Also" section because it seemed to have no pertinent information. If anyone disagrees feel free to put it back in and point out what it has to do with this article. Lokine 20:24, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Quoting Modal jazz "Kind of Blue is an exploration of the possibilities of modal jazz." I don't think Kind of Blue should be mentioned as an example of cool jazz. --Matti Pöllä 22:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. Kind of Blue is definitely not Cool jazz. Maybe Miles should be woven into the article earlier. For the moment all I changed is the recording date of Birth of the Cool. ---Sluzzelin 19:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Actually, virtually everything in this article is wrong, starting with the misdating of Birth of the Cool (try 1949-1950) & miscrediting (it was issued under Davis's name but it was a joint project among Davis, Gil Evans, John Lewis, & Gerry Mulligan). The reference to Coleman Hawkins & Lester Young as equal influences is wrong too--they are contrasting stylists & it's the Prez influence that's important for cool-school saxophonists. -- I will try to make a few edits to get the ball rolling. --ND 03:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

West Coast vs. NYC?
I've removed the reference to NYC as the origin of the "cool" connotation. It's a tad counterintuitive, in that many (most?) associate the West Coast with cool jazz (hence the term "west coast cool," a term which uncovers over 60,000 Google hits; also, an earlier editor was of the same opinion). In any case, in order to avoid a West Coast vs. NY debate, I've simply removed the NYC reference without playing up the West Coast reference. Ex0pos (talk) 09:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Additional citations
Why, what, where, and how does this article need additional citations for verification? Hyacinth (talk) 21:55, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The article previously bore the tag.  Following the addition of one citation, another editor used an automated tool to change this to .  I can see a couple of sentences that (at least) need clarification, starting with the lede.  I've begun adding some text, with references and I hope to continue this effort. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 18:20, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I've expanded the text (essentially a re-write), using multiple sources. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Postwar Jazz?
The first paragraph suggests that postwar, Jazz was only either cool jazz or bebop. So swing etc was killed off by bebop? Just asking. Seems this should be made explicit. --2602:306:CFCE:1EE0:64C7:92A:F58E:B5EC (talk) 01:46, 9 May 2018 (UTC)Doug Bashford

What Exactly defines Cool Jazz?
I am a composer of All sorts of music, but I have no experience in Jazz and I like how the Wikipedia pages on Cool Jazz and Chamber Jazz describe it, but they Give no help as to what it could be. What I mean by that is, Slower Tempo? How Slow (What Range of Tempos are normally used)? More Relaxed? In What Way? More Constant Key Signatures (Which Ones)? HELP!!! JuniorGenius07 (talk) 21:03, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

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Isaac Huger

Isaac Huger (March 19, 1743 – October 17, 1797) was an American planter and Continental Army general during the American Revolutionary War.

Life and work
Isaac Huger was born at the "Limerick" slave plantation on the Cooper River, the second son of Huguenot merchant and planter Daniel and Mary Cordes Huger. The wealth of his family afforded young Isaac an education in Europe, along with his brothers. Huger began his military career by serving as an officer in Colonel Thomas Middleton's Provincial South Carolina Regiment during the expedition against the Cherokees in 1761.

While serving as a representative for the parishes of St. Philip and St. Michael in the First Provincial Congress of South Carolina, Huger was appointed a lieutenant colonel in the South Carolina militia and later commissioned a lieutenant colonel in the 1st South Carolina Regiment on June 17, 1775. He was promoted to colonel on September 16, 1776, and appointed commander of the 5th South Carolina Regiment. On January 9, 1779, he was promoted to the rank of brigadier general in the Continental Army. It was at his home, near Beaufort, that Lafayette, in 1777, at age 19, landed in America to help against the British. Lafayette would become lifelong friend with Huger and Huger's son, who would repay that friendship by trying to rescue Lafayette from Austrian prison twenty years later.

Brigadier General Huger fought and was wounded at the Battle of Stono Ferry on June 20, 1779, and commanded the South Carolina and Georgia militia during the Siege of Savannah on October 9, 1779.

During the siege of Charleston in the spring of 1780, he was placed in command of the light horse and militia outside the city. A surprise attack by Lieutenant Colonel Banastre Tarleton's forces routed and dispersed Huger's troops at Monck's Corner on the morning of April 14, 1780. Illness kept Huger from capture with the surrender of Charleston, and he later rejoined the Southern army under Major General Horatio Gates in North Carolina.

He was present when Major General Nathanael Greene took command of the Southern Department in Charlotte later in December. Greene detached his light forces to the western parts of South Carolina and moved his regulars to a camp in the Cheraws, with Huger as his second-in-command. After the brilliant American victory at Cowpens, Huger was entrusted by Greene to lead the command posted in the Cheraws to rejoin the detached light forces in North Carolina. At the Battle of Guilford Courthouse on March 15, 1781, he commanded a brigade of Virginia Continental regiments and was slightly wounded in action. Commanding the same brigade at the Battle of Hobkirk's Hill on April 25, Huger initially stood his ground after the unanticipated withdrawal of the right wing of the American line. With the retreat of the British from the interior to Charleston, General Huger was reunited with his family and returned to his home, ending his combative service.

Isaac Huger represented St. George Dorchester in the Jacksonborough Assembly in January 1782 and served in the legislature until his election as Sheriff of Charleston District in 1785. Familial ties led to his appointment as the first federal marshal for South Carolina in 1789, a position which he held for five years. Isaac Huger married Elizabeth Chalmers on March 23, 1762, and was the father of eight children. He died in Charleston.

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Laura Michelle Kelly

Laura Michelle Kelly (born 4 March 1981) is an English actress and singer, best known for originating the roles of Mary Poppins in Mary Poppins in the West End, for which she received the Olivier Award for Best Actress in a Musical, and Sylvia Llewelyn Davies in Finding Neverland on Broadway.

Early life
Kelly was born in Totton near Southampton, Hampshire, and moved to a farm on the Isle of Wight with her family.

Her first musical appearance was in Bugsy Malone in middle school. She studied with a local singing teacher, Barbara Walter, who cast Kelly in amateur productions at local theatres, including Shanklin Stagecoach of Performing Arts School.

Musical theatre
Kelly's West End musical credits include Beauty and the Beast, Whistle Down The Wind as Swallow (2000) (with a 10-year-old Jessie J), Les Misérables as Eponine at the Palace Theatre (2001), Mamma Mia! as Sophie at the Prince Edward Theatre (2002), and My Fair Lady as Eliza Doolittle in the transfer of the National Theatre's production to the Theatre Royal, Drury Lane (2003). She made her Broadway debut as Hodel in the 2004 Broadway revival of Fiddler on the Roof.

Mary Poppins premiered in September 2004 at the Bristol Hippodrome, followed in December by its opening in the West End at the Prince Edward Theatre. For her role as the title character, Kelly earned rave reviews as well as the 2005 Olivier Award for Best Actress in a Musical. She left Mary Poppins on 29 October 2005 after more than 400 performances and was succeeded by Scarlett Strallen. Kelly then went to Singapore to star in a revival of A Twist of Fate in November 2005, produced by the Singapore Repertory Company. It also starred Anthony Drewe (who co-wrote the music with Singaporean composer Dick Lee).

In 2006 she returned to the London stage performing in A Tribute to Dirty Dancing at Kenwood House and Marble Hill. Kelly and Michael Ball performed at the Hackney Empire on 1 August 2006 to celebrate Anthony Newley for BBC Radio Two which was broadcast on 29 September 2006. Kelly was the Special Guest for Jools Holland and His Rhythm and Blues Orchestra on tour during December 2006. On 27 August 2007, Kelly made her BBC Proms debut, performing "The Prayer" from the film Quest for Camelot alongside Michael Ball.

During 2007–08, Kelly played the role of Galadriel in the original London production of The Lord of the Rings – The Musical at Theatre Royal, Drury Lane. The show began previews on 9 May 2007, with an official opening night of 19 June 2007. Kelly played her final performance on 2 February 2008, and was replaced by Abbie Osman.

She played the dual role of a nun and former Coronation Street actor Johnny Briggs's trophy wife in an ITV1 production of Agatha Christie's Nemesis.

Kelly appeared alongside Kevin Spacey and Jeff Goldblum in David Mamet's play Speed-the-Plow at London's Old Vic theatre from 1 February to 26 April 2008 and at the Ruhrfestspiele in Recklinghausen, Germany, in May 2008.

Kelly voiced "Dorothy", the patient's girlfriend in Focus on the Family Radio Theatre's production of The Screwtape Letters. This audio-drama was also expanded to include speaking roles for Wormwood, the patient (called "John Hamilton"), and the patient's mother. Andy Serkis played Screwtape and Bertie Carvel was Wormwood.

Beginning 12 October 2009, Kelly reprised the role of Mary Poppins at the New Amsterdam Theatre on Broadway, replacing Scarlett Strallen. Kelly temporarily left the cast of Mary Poppins on 6 March 2011, where she was replaced by originator Ashley Brown, to shoot a film. She returned to the production on 19 July 2011. She played her final performance on 9 October 2011 and was replaced by Steffanie Leigh.

Kelly and former London co-star Gavin Lee performed as Mary Poppins and Bert in the America Celebrates 4 July at Ford's Theatre in front of President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama on 6 June 2010. The special aired on 2 July 2010 on ABC. Kelly once again reunited with Lee when he returned to the role of Bert in the Broadway production of Mary Poppins on 24 August 2010.

Kelly starred as Anna Leonowens in a production of The King and I at the Muny from 6–12 August 2012. She also starred as Ensign Nellie Forbush in the Muny production of South Pacific from 8–14 July 2013.

She reprised the role of Eliza in a concert version of My Fair Lady at the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C., on 5 May 2013.

On 2 June 2014, it was announced that Kelly would star as Sylvia Llewelyn Davies in the world premiere of the new musical, Finding Neverland, which played at the American Repertory Theater from July through September 2014. She reprised the role in the Broadway production, which opened on 15 April 2015 at the Lunt-Fontanne Theatre. She stayed with the production until it closed on 21 August 2016.

In November 2016, Kelly began a North American tour starring as Anna Leonowens in The King and I. She stayed with the show until 17 March 2018.

In 2018, she was announced as the lead in the Encores! production of Me and My Girl, alongside former Mary Poppins co-star Christian Borle.

She plays the role of Julie, one of the Cavendish family, in the musical The Royal Family of Broadway at the Barrington Stage Company (Massachusetts) in June 2018 to July 2018.

Recording artist
Kelly released her debut single, "There Was A Time", through EMIs Angel label for download only on 17 April 2006. The single enjoyed Record of the Week status on BBC Radio 2. This single is from her debut solo album, The Storm Inside which was released on 1 May 2006. The album includes six original songs and six covers, including three songs which Kelly wrote herself and a cover of Keane's "Somewhere Only We Know", which predated the Lily Allen cover and has a similar arrangement.

A new single, "What's It All For?" (written by singer Judie Tzuke) was released as a digital download on 5 March 2007. It was followed by the release of her album, also titled What's It All For?, with the three new tracks and a selection of others from The Storm Inside, which was released in 2006.

Kelly also recorded a song for the radio-dramatization of The Screwtape Letters that she starred in as Dorothy, the patient's girlfriend. The song was called, "This is a War".

Film
Kelly made her feature film debut in 2007 as Lucy Barker in the Tim Burton/DreamWorks film Sweeney Todd.

Her first starring role was in the 2013 film Goddess, playing a mother of young twins in an isolated farmhouse in Tasmania, who finds unexpected fame when performances of her songs go viral on the Internet without the knowledge of her absent husband, played by Ronan Keating.

Personal life
In 2001 Kelly married choreographer Nick Winston. They divorced after seven years of marriage. On 24 January 2019, she married Sean Helleren in Maui, Hawaii. They had a son in 2019. They had a daughter in 2021. They had a second daughter in 2022.

She is the third of four children and the only girl. She comes from a Christian family. She has said that her faith is an important part of her life, and that she prays before every show. When asked what three items she would take to a desert island, she said, "My Bible, iPhone and my guitar."

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Talk:Armagh

City Status
While I understand that Armagh has official city status from the Queen, does anyone agree that it would be reasonable for us to add that most people regard it as a town? (The same goes to Lisburn and Newry, though perhaps Armagh is more deserving of the city status as it has a cathedral) Jonto 21:34, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

I don't necessarily think most people do regard it as a town, or give a lot of thought to whether it is a city or a town. I'm not precisely sure what the technicalities are but I believe Armagh was always a city as it had two cathedrals, I think the royal charter business impacts primarily on the council name & so on.

The cathedral criteria is irrelevant as there are cathedrals in many towns in Northern Ireland which are certainly not regarded as cities. I am thinking, for example, of Downpatrick and Clogher. Traditionally the right to be called a city is as a result of the granitng of this status by royal charter - hence Armagh was ( very belatedly) granted city status by royal charters in the late 1990s, whilst Newry and Lisburn received their charter in 2002.

You're right Downpatrick, Clogher, Newry & I think Enniskillen all have Cathedral churches & aren't cities (except now Newry obviously) however Armagh has TWO Cathedrals. This is what makes Armagh a Cathedral city irrespective of any Royal charter.

Yes, Armagh has two cathedrals. I was born and bred under the shadow of the older of the two. However, the number of cathedrals is not an issue of any relevance to this discussion

Stolen church?
Who exactly refers to the CofI Cathedral as the stolen church? I'm a member of the congregation and have never heard the term used before. On a seperate point, the actual address of the public library is Abbey Street. As far as I know there is no street called Cathedral Hill around the Cathedral.

Bullet points
Why is nearly everything in this article in bullet points? It makes sense in the demographics section, but everywhere else it looks a bit weird. I think it would work far better in paragraph form, which is the standard Wikipedia style. --Helenalex (talk) 04:17, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

 * The bullets were added on 25 April 2006. You're right, it is not Wikipedia style.Hohenloh 21:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Macha > Mhacha
Could anyone explain why/when/how the original Irish spelling of Macha changed to Mhacha? As we know, the area of Armagh was named after the goddess Macha (which is always pronounced /ˈmaxə/ or mah-kah). Somewhere along the line, the name of the area changed to Mhacha (which is pronounced ˈwaxə or wah-kah). Although it's a minor change in spelling, it's a major change in pronunciation.  ~Asarlaí  10:59, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

 * Mhacha is the genitive case of Macha (feminine noun, singular - Heights OF Macha). There are many examples in placenames around Ireland. Hohenloh + 20:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Use of CE in this article
Some years in this article are currently annotated with CE. I propose to remove this usage. My reasons are as follows: The article originally used AD. This was changed without discussion. Such changes go against guidelines. There is no consensus for the current usage; there has been no debate until now. I do not suggest using AD, but instead, the years can be left as numerics, since years in the common era do not need further annotation. Leaving out AD and CE is a good compromise since it should offend no one. If you object to my suggestion please state your reasons below. LevenBoy (talk) 19:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Take them out all together and this mini problem won't arise again. BigDunc  Talk 19:20, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. That's what I've been trying to do.
 * No further responses after four days, so I assume there are no more concerns. I'll remove the CE notation. LevenBoy (talk) 09:18, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

The map appears to be wrong...
I have looked at several maps of Irish counties online and the one in this article is the only one that looks this way. This map shows several counties north of Armagh where the single county of Tyrone should be. Northern Ireland only has six (6) counties and this map has its county lines in very odd places that don't match the other maps I am looking at. I will have my brother-in-law (he is from Tyrone) over here in an hour or so and will ask him what he thinks but am pretty sure the map is wrong.

I would love to change it but don't know how to alter maps so as to highlight a certain county. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hgray14 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If you were referring at the time to the image still in use, the lines on the current map are the boundaries of the modern local council areas, and not the traditional counties. --Eamonnca1 (talk) 06:56, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Buildings of note
It seems odd not to mention the splendid Georgian buildings on the Mall, surely in itself one of the most distinctive features of this city - [http://ni_towns.tripod.com/armagh/the_mall_armagh.html The Mall,Armagh]

Proposed Northern Ireland Wiki Meetup
A Wikimeet is proposed for Northern Ireland in the next few months. If you have never been to one, this is an opportunity to meet other Wikipedians in an informal atmosphere for Wiki and non-Wiki related chat and for beer or food if you like. Most take place on a Sunday afternoon in a suitable pub but other days and locations can also work. Experienced and new contributors are all welcome. This event is definitely not restricted just to discussion of Northern Ireland topics. Please add your suggestions for place and date to the discussion page here: Proposed Northern Ireland Wiki Meetup. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:13, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * This is a reminder to please add any views you may have to the project page linked above. Thanks. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:38, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

captions on pictures of cathedrals
These are identical but need to be distinguished by denomination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.67.191.234 (talk) 13:16, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2015
Please could you add under the voice notable people: Patrick Magee born Patrick George McGee in Armagh, County Armagh, Northern Ireland. Famous actor mostly famous for the role Frank Alexander in Clockwork Orange? Link ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Magee_(actor) Cheers

87.16.189.197 (talk) 14:53, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done -- Sam Sailor Talk! 19:21, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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Trian Masan
I'm trying to make sense of a map of early Christian and Medieval Armagh (from the Irish Historic Towns Atlas). The major division appear to be: Trian Saxan (Saxon third), Trian Mor (large third), Trian Masan and Raith. Can anyone supply a translation for the last two terms? Thanks, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 22:17, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

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Chestatee, Georgia

Chestatee is an unincorporated community in northeastern Forsyth County, Georgia, United States, due west of the confluence of the Chestatee River into the Chattahoochee River. Originally a Cherokee settlement, it was called Atsunsta Ti Yi.

The word "Chestatee" is a Cherokee word meaning roughly "pine torch place" or "place of lights", because they would use bonfires along the riverbanks to light their torches. They would then use these torches for hunting deer and other wild game in the forest. A post office called Chestatee was established in 1880, and remained in operation until being discontinued in 1904.

The Vann Ferry, owned by Cherokee Indian Chief Vann, is just east of Chestatee, on the road to Gainesville.

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July 28 (Eastern Orthodox liturgics)

July 27 - Eastern Orthodox Church calendar - July 29

All fixed commemorations below are celebrated on August 10 by Old Calendar.

For July 28th, Orthodox Churches on the Old Calendar commemorate the Saints listed on July 15.

Saints

 * Holy Apostles of the Seventy and Deacons (1st century):
 * Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, and Parmenas.

 * Martyr Julian of Dalmatia (c. 138-161)
 * Martyr Eustathius the Soldier, of Ancyra (c. 316)
 * Martyr Acacius of Miletus (c. 321)
 * Martyr Drosis (Drosida, Drosa), by being cast into a golden crucible.   (see also: March 22)
 * Martyr Auxentios, of Laodicea in Phrygia.
 * Venerable Irene Chrysovolantou of Cappadocia, Abbess of Chrysovalantou (912)
 * Venerable Paul of Xeropotamou, on Mount Athos (820 or 996)
 * Saint George the Builder, of Iveron, Mt. Athos (1029 or 1033)

Pre-Schism Western saints

 * Martyrs Nazarius and Celsus, martyrs in Milan in Italy under Nero (c. 68)  (see also: October 14)
 * Saint Victor I, born in North Africa, he was Pope of Rome for ten years from 189-198 (198)
 * Saint Peregrinus, a priest near Lyons in France at the time of St Irenaeus and during the persecution under Severus (2nd century)
 * Saint Camelian, successor of St Lupus as Bishop of Troyes in France from 478 (c. 525)
 * Saints Ursus and Leobatius (Leubais), Brother-Abbots, of Gaul (c. 500)  (see also: July 30)
 * Saint Samson of Dol, Bishop of Dol, in Brittany (c. 565)
 * Saint Banthus of Trier, Bishop of Trier in Germany (7th century) (see also: July 25)
 * Saint Arduinus (Ardwyne), patron-saint of Trepino in the south of Italy (7th century)
 * Saint Lucidus of Aquara, a monk of St Peter's near Aquara, in the south of Italy (c. 938)
 * Saint Lyutius, a monk at Montecassino who died as a hermit at La Cava Abbey in Italy (c. 1038)

Post-Schism Orthodox saints

 * Venerable Moses of the Kiev Caves, Wonderworker (13th-14th centuries)
 * Saint Anthony, Bishop of Rostov, Yaroslavl, and Belozersk (1336)
 * New Martyr David of Aleppo (1660)
 * Saint Pitirim, Bishop of Tambov (1698)
 * New Martyr Christodoulos of Kassandreia (1777)

New martyrs and confessors

 * New Hieromartyr Nicholas Ponomarev, Deacon (1918)
 * New Hieromartyr Basil (Erekaev), Hieromonk of Sarov Monastery (1937)
 * Virgin-martyrs Anastasia Kamaeva and Helen Astashkina (1937)
 * Martyrs Aretha Yeriomkin, John Lomakin, John Selmanov, John Milioshkin (1937)
 * Virgin-martyr Maura Moisieva (1937)
 * New Hieromartyr Ignatius (Bazyluk) of Jabłeczna, in Chelm and Podlasie, Poland (1942)   (see also: August 9)

Other commemorations

 * Consecration the Temple of the Most Holy Theotokos in the Quarter of Deaconess.
 * Synaxis of the Saints of Tambov (1988)
 * Repose of Abbess Daria of Sezenovo Convent (1858)
 * Translation of the relics of Saint Jacob the New Chozebite (1960) (see also: August 5)

Icons

 * Icon of the Most Holy Theotokos "Directress of Smolensk", brought from Constantinople (1046)
 * Icons of the Most Holy Theotokos "Grebensk" (1380), "Kostroma" (1672), and "Umileniye" ("of Tender Feeling") of Diveyevo Convent (1885),  before which St. Seraphim reposed.
 * Reverence list of an "Smolensk" Icon of the Mother of God:
 * "Ustiug" (1290)
 * "Vidropusskaya" (15th century)
 * "Voronin" (1524) (see also: June 15)
 * "Xristoforov" (16th century)
 * "Suprasl", Poland (16th century)
 * "Yugskaya" (1615)
 * "Igritsky" (1624)
 * "Shuiskaya" (1654-55)
 * "Sedmiezersk" (Seven Lakes) (17th century)
 * "Sergievsk" (Trinity-St. Sergius Lavra) (1730)

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Terrorvision (disambiguation)

Terrorvision or TerrorVision can refer to:

 * Terrorvision, a British rock band
 * TerrorVision, a 1986 horror-comedy movie.
 * TerrorVision (album), a 2018 album by Belgian death metal band Aborted.

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The Storyteller (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine)

"The Storyteller" is the 14th episode of the first season of the American syndicated science fiction television series Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

Set in the 24th century, the series follows the adventures on Deep Space Nine, a space station located near the planet Bajor. In this episode, two simultaneous plotlines unfold. Chief of Operations Miles O'Brien is recruited to save a Bajoran village from destruction. Back on the station, Commander Sisko arbitrates a land dispute between two factions of Bajorans, the Paqu and the Navot, while the adolescent leader of the Paqu (for whom Sisko's son's friend Nog develops a crush) learns the art of compromise.

This episode aired in broadcast syndication the week of May 3, 1993.

Plot
O'Brien and Chief Medical Officer Dr. Bashir are sent on a relief mission to Bajor in response to a medical emergency. Meanwhile, on the station, Sisko plays mediator in a conflict between two rival Bajoran factions negotiating a border dispute. The leader of one of the factions, Tetrarch Varis Sul, is a fifteen-year-old girl. She proves unwilling to negotiate, and Sisko is frustrated with her intransigence.

Nog is captivated by the girl. He and Sisko's son, Jake, introduce themselves to her, and she agrees to spend time with them. She is stressed by the negotiations, but Nog suggests that problems can become opportunities. To cheer her up, the three embark on a prank to steal the bucket in which Security Chief Odo, a shapeshifter, regenerated in a liquid state. Nog fills the bucket with oatmeal and pretends to trip, covering Jake with the contents. Varis apologises to Sisko for her involvement in the escapade. They discuss the challenges of leadership, and she eventually agrees to propose a compromise resolution to the border dispute.

Responding to the distress call, Bashir and O'Brien find that a man called the Sirah is dying, and the village leader, Faren, claims that a force called the "Dal'Rok" will destroy the village if the Sirah is not able to fend it off. That night, the Sirah speaks to the entire village as a threatening cloudlike apparition appears in the sky. The Sirah tells a narrative about the village defeating the Dal'Rok. He collapses during his speech, but he whispers the rest of the story to O'Brien, who repeats it; and as the villagers cheer, a beam of light seems to make the apparition disappear. By the time the Dal'Rok is gone the Sirah has died, and Faren declares O'Brien to be his successor.

The next day, the villagers treat O'Brien like a king. The old Sirah's apprentice, Hovath, attempts to kill O'Brien, declaring himself to be the true Sirah. He reveals that the Dal'Rok was created by the first Sirah, using a fragment of a mystical Orb of the Prophets, to solve the internal strife tearing apart the village. When the villagers unite in their thoughts to stop it, the Sirah secretly uses the fragment to channel their thoughts. Hovath had had his chance to lead the village against the Dal'Rok earlier that week, and failed.

That night, O'Brien stands before the village and attempts to tell the story, but the villagers are unmoved by his clumsy narrative, and the Dal'Rok returns in full force. Hovath takes the stage and eloquently tells of a new voice challenging the Dal'Rok, realizing the Sirah deliberately created this opportunity for him to redeem his failure. The villagers follow Hovath's lead and defeat the Dal'Rok, embracing him as their new Sirah and relieving O'Brien of the post.

Production
The story idea came from Kurt Michael Bensmiller who first pitched it as an episode for season one of Star Trek: The Next Generation. They did not go ahead with the script but asked him to pitch other ideas which eventually led to the episode "Time Squared". The script for "The Storyteller" came to the attention of Michael Piller who liked it and, years later, asked Bensmiller to rewrite it for Deep Space Nine.

Guest star Kay E. Kuter previously appeared in Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "The Nth Degree".

The matte painting of the Bajoran village is the same matte painting from the Star Trek: The Next Generation "Birthright" episodes (Season 6, Episode 16 and 17) in which it depicted the colony of Romulan and Klingon survivors from the Khitomer massacre.

Reception
Keith DeCandido of Tor.com rated it three out of ten and wrote: "two good pairings do not a watchable story make, and the episode is ultimately completely forgettable."

In 2019, Screen Rant reported that IMDb users had rated this episode as one of the ten worst episodes of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

Home media releases
"The Storyteller" was released on LaserDisc on March 18, 1997. Published by Paramount Home Video and made by Pioneer USA, the double sided disc had runtime of 92 minutes and also included the previous episode "Battle Lines".