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Talk:Bashar al-Assad

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2021
add bashar al assad signature: file:Bashar Hafez al-Assad Signature.png Asd3131 (talk) 20:27, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
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Alawite = shia
I cannot clarify that bashar al assad is a shia muslim. Based on search on page typing, there is only mentions for 2 words which are called shia.2404:8000:1027:85F6:C83E:347B:474F:A63E (talk) 09:32, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The article makes the sourced statement that he is an "Alawite Muslim", with a wikilink to the Alawite article as to what that means and its relationship to Shia Islam. DeCausa (talk) 09:42, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

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is he a politician???
Why is this dictator even called "politician"? Was he elected? Was the election free and fair? Dear wikipedia, why don't you refer hitler, stalin or mao as a "politician"? I mean the "d-word" is so rude... 92.249.214.251 (talk) 13:03, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

 * his dad was made leader by a military coup and since bashar came to power if you talked ONE WORD bad about him, your children will get poisoned and you will never see their face again, and you would be killed or forced in the army. 2001:1970:55E8:7F00:60F6:D4AD:9672:10DE (talk) 19:41, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

 * These are the opening sentence of the Wikipedia articles on Hitler, Stalin and Mao:
 * "Adolf Hitler (20 April 1889 –30 April 1945) was an Austrian-born German politician..."
 * Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin (born Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili; 18 December 1878 – 5 March 1953) was a Soviet politician..."
 * Mao Zedong (26 December 1893 – 9 September 1976) was a Chinese politician..."
 * What's your point? DeCausa (talk) 20:50, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Kidnapping of 4Star General Kenneth McKenzie in Aleppo Syria Help release him today!!
Please contact the local police to get General Kenneth McKenzie freed from the terrible kidnapping in Aleppo Syria held somewhere in a big forest. This is a family member in the USA in Florida and please help get him released. They are treating him very badly!! 2603:9000:B305:D778:C081:8872:BF61:6AC2 (talk) 20:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Surname?
What to call this man - I had assumed that his surname would be "al-Assad", but many others seem to disagree with me. "Al-Assad: Enemies of Syria 'will go to hell'". CNN. ...President al-Assad gave... Al-Assad family "Throughout the speech, al-Assad remained faithful..." ...loyal to the al-Assad family. The Assad regime... ...after Assad assumed power... ...elite of the Assad family... ...the Assad government... President Assad also... ...President Assad step aside... President Assad also told... ..Bashar al-Assad's core support... Bashar al-Assad declared... Bashar al-Assad held a meeting... Bashar graduated... Bashar later stated... Bashar had few... ...which was Bashar's age... So, what should this guy be called - Is there a consensus?
 * al-Assad is used here (but mostly in the citations) - -
 * Assad is frequently used throughout this article - - -
 * President Assad has a few entries (but no President al-Assad) - - -
 * A few places use the whole name, Bashar al-Assad - - -
 * Then there is the naked Bashar contingent - - -
 * Bashar al-Assad;
 * al-Assad;
 * President al-Assad;
 * President Assad;
 * but surely not Bashar?

Thank you for your time, Wordreader (talk) 20:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

His father’s name is Hafez.
Bashar’s father’s name is “Hafez” and not “Hafiz” as is printed on this site 2A02:AA7:4103:8767:50EE:4E1:FC17:3FFB (talk) 10:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

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Maria Square

The Maria Square is the name or a former name of several squares:

 * Mariatorget, a square in Södermalm, central Stockholm
 * Prešeren Square, known as the Maria Square before 1905, in Ljubljana, Slovenia

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cardboardia

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Woohookitty 07:29, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Cardboardia
This article is about a messageboard with very little internet presence. The site itself seems to be down, and this journal makes me believe that it's down about as often as it's up. Joyous (talk) July 4, 2005 05:41 (UTC)
 * Delete. I've followed this article since its creation, and it's on my Watchlist, so I've been keeping a close eye on the edits. I've slowly begun to suspect that it was just a "messageboard vanity page" for a non-notable Internet messageboard. I'm relatively certain that's a correct assessment. – Mipadi July 4, 2005 05:45 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable. 53 unique Googles and no Alexa data. Vanity. Wikipedia is not a web directory. Too many sock/meatpuppets. A и D я 01D  TALK  EMAIL  July 4, 2005 05:48 (UTC)
 * Delete notability not established. JamesBurns 4 July 2005 05:49 (UTC)
 * Delete --Eliezer 4 July 2005 05:56 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's a pity to kill so much work, but it's clearly not notable. Google search turns up few hits. This Wiki article in conjunction with |this entry on UrbanDictionary seem indicative of a tendancy towards self-aggrandizement on the part of Cardbordia's forum-goers. Fernando Rizo 4 July 2005 06:01 (UTC)
 * Keep. While I don't have a Wikipedia account, I am PokeDigiManiac, one of the contributors to the article, and I wanted to correct a few misapprehensions that the previous voters might have had. Directed to Joy Stovall, the site is not down currently; however, only registered members can access it, in order to protect from       s and other malicious acts. Additionally, the reason that this journal seems to reflect it being down most often is because, as mentioned in the article itself, it generally only sees use when the site is down. This can be noted by looking at the dates of posts in said journal - they all cluster around certain dates or short periods of time where the site was experiencing difficulty. In terms of notability, I agree that it is a very difficult thing to establish. However, I will state that the message board currently has 580 members. Beyond that, I leave it to you to judge. Additionally, in response to the charges of self-aggrandizement, said urbandictionary article (The link was incorrectly posted; however, I have now found the article that I believe Fernando Rizo was referencing here) was created by two personally motivated members, and should not be taken as a representation of Cardboardia as a whole. This article under question on Wikipedia is an attempt to gather as much information as possible and form it into a clear and detailed explanation of just what inspires over five hundred people to form a community that has lasted over two years (a rarity on the Internet). In any case, thank you for your fair considerations. 68.7.209.76 4 July 2005 06:25 (UTC) — (68.7.209.76's 11th edit.)
 * Very Strong Keep Seeing that this whole nomination for a deletion was because someone found The Live Journal Site, I wish to set something straight. The LiveJournal account for Cardboardia is a system used by the administrators to alert the Cardboardian Members of any problems with Cardboardia.  For example, if Cardboardia suddenly went down without any notice, Members would post their worrys and the Administrators would be able to alert the members of the problem. Now, I also notice that people seem to think this is 'not notable enough' to be on wikipedia.  Googling something won't give you exact results, so don't base your decision off of that.chlorine   July 4, 2005 06:43 (UTC) — ''(Comment by 24.136.194.95 and/or Chlorine, who seem to be the same person, and both of whom have 12 or fewer edits.)
 * Delete, self-promotion for an unnotable website.--nixie 4 July 2005 06:50 (UTC)
 * Delete: about 200 Google hits, about 600 members, no Alexa ranking: notability not established. Sietse 4 July 2005 07:26 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable enough. --Alex12 3 4 July 2005 07:44 (UTC)
 * Comment: I wish to know what your ideas of 'not notable ennough' are. Not notable to you? I hope you don't think that, just because you ran a google search, you believe it to be not notable enough? Have you done any true research on this topic, or have you jumped to conclusions? I have read other replys, and they give a very indepth reason for their vote to delete. If you are going to vote to permanently delete this, then put some good reason into it. That is all I ask. chlorine   July 4, 2005 08:43 (UTC) — ''(Comment by 24.136.194.95 and/or Chlorine, who seem to be the same person, and both of whom have 12 or fewer edits.)
 * My reasons are the same as the rest. I agree with them, and saying any more would be redundant. --Alex12 3 4 July 2005 12:44 (UTC) ref.
 * Keep (Note, after reading the guidelines under votes for deletion I wish to point out that I am the Guesty Type Personification that authored half the article from my school's IP address of 203.87.121.161. This statement is not designed to call myself an authority on the subject or of the site, it is merely to avoid being called a sockpuppet) This site's guidelines for what constitutes a vanity article state 'An article should not be dismissed as "vanity" simply because the subject is not famous.' therefore google hits and alexa rankings seem irrelevant in this case. The aforementioned Urban Dictionary post seems to be a purely promotional entry by two overenthusiastic members out of approximately 600 and should not be taken as an example of all of us. The article itself is more informative than advertising. As Urban Dictionary has to guidelines as to self promotion that are readily enforced or advertised, posters feel free to enter whatever they feel and as such I would propose that the urban dictionary entry is irrelevant to this case. Considering the fact that the guidelines of Wikipedia state that a lack of fame is not indicative of a vanity article I would consider this article within the guidelines as the article states information but apart from some in-jokes meant purely sarcastically or as easter eggs for those members who would read this it is not saying whether the site is good or bad, merely describing the facts of its existance and history.--Guesty Type Personification 4 July 2005 18:04 (+9.5GMT) — (Moff's 8th edit.)
 * Delete. JFW | T@lk  4 July 2005 09:57 (UTC)
 * Delete. There's millions of sites out there with more than 600 members and this one isn't any more important than the rest of them. Wikipedia is not a webdirectory. - Mgm|(talk) July 4, 2005 10:33 (UTC)
 * Comment There is no 'Wikipedia is not a webdictionary' section so I assume that you mean Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Under that guideline, Wikipedia negates entries that are dictionary definitions, Lists of such definitions or usage, slang or idiom guides. This entry fits none of those criteria. The point about various other sites with more than 600 members not having entries is superfluous. Unless you can site examples where a site in our situation has tried to get an article on Wikipedia and been rejected, the point does not count.--Moff
 * See this section. --Alex12 3 4 July 2005 12:44 (UTC)
 * Delete, WP:VAIN. Radiant_ >|< July 4, 2005 11:42 (UTC)
 * Very weak keep and ruthlessly edit. The parts about what Cardboardia actually is could be considered somewhat notable.  That's about 1/3 of the article.  The rest (fictional history and whatnot) are not notable.  Also, the tone of the article sounds like something from an online message board, not an encyclopedia. Bubamara 4 July 2005 11:49 (UTC)
 * I did some of that ruthless editing. It could sure use some real content. Bubamara 4 July 2005 12:11 (UTC)
 * Delete, even after the edits. WP:NOT a webdirectory and esp not for non-notable sites.-Splash July 4, 2005 12:26 (UTC)
 * Put it in a cardboardia box and ship it back where it came from. Delete RoySmith 4 July 2005 16:07 (UTC)
 * Keep Okay, this is Hika, Supreme Ruler of the Universe and Admin of Cardboardia. While, obviously, I kind of am biased, I vote to Keep the Cardboardia article. For one thing, Cardboardia isn't just some stupid little message board. Okay, yeah, we have a measley 600 members, and we're not "notable" because we don't turn up enough hits on Google, or whatever. But among it's members, Cardboardia has evolved into it's own little culture - and while that culture might not even be on the radar for most, for its members, Cardboardia's a freakin' way of life. Where else can a topic that merely states the time of day turn into a thread about boobs, and most recently, pajamas? We have Wars (Podima Wars I, II, III, IV, V, that one war VZG had against the sun, the Darkeru war that got covered up...), invasions, marriages, children (so many children!), and HOLIDAYS. Holy hell, we have "national" holidays. Not only that, but through SEVERAL bouts of extreme drama, including a majorly bad      , a fight between myself and Keru, several of the older members up and leaving, and personal dramas of its members, Cardboardia has held through for almost three years (the original Pub having been started in August 2002). And while all of this certaintly doesn't make Cardboardia bigger or more notable, it does make it extremely UNIQUE. All of us Cardboardians are a family (through the several marriages and, y'know, figuratively speaking). There's a little thread that holds all of us together, and it will for the rest of our lives. Cardboardia's a big thing for most of us, and even though I know I won't be around Cardboardia forever, chances are I'm not going to forget it. It's almost like one of those shows/books/movies where kids find a portal to some totally awesome dimension - a world all their own. To us, it's like that. And really, you can't call this whole thing "shameless self promotion" - most Cardboardians, and ESPECIALLY ME, tend to be suspicious of "newbies." In fact, if no one ever came to the board again except those that existed already, I'd be perfectly happy. Who wants new blood when you got a great group of people already? No, we aren't looking to pimp Cardboardia... at least, not to get us tons of new members. We just want an article on Wikipedia. Is that so much to ask? — (Unsigned comment by Hika; user's 1st edit.)
 * It's a great history you wrote; I think the only complaints of the Wikipedians here is that it is more appropriate on an About Cardboardia page on your own website, not on Wikipedia—a sentiment with which I am inclined to agree. – Mipadi July 4, 2005 16:29 (UTC)
 * Delete Oliver Keenan July 4, 2005 19:06 (UTC)
 * Delete nn RasputinAXP 4 July 2005 19:08 (UTC)
 * Comment: As the user Aaron Hill once said: We have articles about schools of 500 kids, so can't we have articles about a 600 member messageboard? I feel the need to quote from the Wikipedia guide to voting for deletion. Because, clearly, you still don't understand.Furthermore, an article is not "vanity" simply because it was written by its subject. Articles about existing books, movies, games, and businesses are not "vanity" so long as the content is kept to salient material and not overtly promotional You don't have to vote on every nomination; even consider not participating if:
 * A nomination involves a topic of which you are ignorant;
 * Consensus you agree with has already been formed.  Chlorine July 4, 2005 19:07 (UTC) — ''(Comment by 24.136.194.95 and/or Chlorine, who seem to be the same person, and both of whom have 12 or fewer edits.)
 * Delete, not notable. Oy vey. Dcarrano July 4, 2005 19:16 (UTC)
 * Comment The 'ruthless edit' has completely foregone the point of the article. It was about the culture and history of the people, not the layout of the board. We don't need to read an article on board layout, we wrote it to put our culture there, the stuff that has been left after said edit completely misses the point and makes the article look like a vanity page moreso than what our original article was. I agree the fictional history might not belong on Wikipedia but the rest of history, the rest of culture should not have been deleted.
 * I agree that it wasn't my most nuanced bit of editing. But count the votes here, Cardboardians - this page is about to be deleted unless it changes drastically. Please edit it to reflect wikipedia's standard of quality. See the Talk:Cardboardia page for more comments. Bubamara 4 July 2005 22:00 (UTC)
 * We would, see, but everything keeps being deleted. Hika
 * Comment The only people who are likely to come to Wikipedia for information about Cardbordian "culture" are Cardbordians. This article fits the definition of vanity if only because the only people who are aware of the subject are the subjects themselves. Fernando Rizo 4 July 2005 23:18 (UTC)
 * It's a good piece of culture, but why not put it on your website instead of on Wikipedia? It would probably be much more useful there, anyway. – Mipadi July 4, 2005 23:26 (UTC)
 * Delete 53 Google hits and a side of meatpuppets makes this non-notable. Xoloz 5 July 2005 04:43 (UTC)
 * Comment 'Meatpuppet has two meanings. A) the male genetalia, B) An 80's punk band. I assume you mean sockpuppet(comment by anon user:60.231.225.2)
 * "Sockpuppet" assumes that one person creates many usernames and votes through them. Since now there seems to be many physical members of the board that come here to vote, that is analogous to recruiting your friends to register in order to vote for you, hence "meatpuppetry" - Skysmith 8 July 2005 08:29 (UTC)
 * Delete, not a webdirectory/ .:.Jareth.:. babelfish July 5, 2005 05:46 (UTC)
 * Delete - definitely vanity (from multiple sources), no significance outside its own circle, one of the thousands of small-scale web boards with their own subculture. I am sure you may be close circle of friends, but that is not so unusual, either - every other similar web-based group can make the same claim. And; I wouldn't support inclusion of all the schools, but even they are more significant - Skysmith 5 July 2005 09:11 (UTC)
 * Delete Only people voting keep are the ones using the website. Your own little corner of the world is important to you, yes, but it doesn't make it encyclopedia material.  The various "This is about my website, don't delete it" votes don't help the case.  Friday 6 July 2005 01:54 (UTC)
 * Delete. Organisational tables of self-selecting fan-fic communes are not encyclopedic.  The subject is insufficiently culturally different from miniscule fan-fic communes in general to be of encyclopedic note.  Hurrah for the communally based onanism of rich Westerners.  Wank that lit. Fifelfoo 6 July 2005 04:22 (UTC)
 * Keep It's an interesting article on a very unique topic. Furthermore, I know of several TOWNS that are less notable than this website. (Population of 10 and 4 Google hits excluding three-word references.) I think it's worth keeping. Besides, what harm could it do? Calime  July 8, 2005 11:11 (UTC)
 * Comment I was going to stay out of this one, but I can't pass that up. A town is a physical object and will persist even if everyone who lived there gots up and walked away. It has a continued presence seperate from it's population.  Thus a town of five hundred in much more notable than a messageboard of five hundred. and I would vote to delete a town of that size that was in no other way notable without a second thought.  Because, "what harm can it do" misses some important points:
 * Noise will chase out signal. Every junk trivial article takes up space on search results pages, editor's time, and even an almost (but not quite) insignificant space on a disk.  This is an encyplopedia, and should function as such.
 * There are forms, conventions, guidelines... ok rules although we don't like to use that word. This article and this discussion ignores those guidelines.
 * Read the writing on the wall, or insert your own cliché here. Please, just let this die with no further fuss. ADB 9 July 2005 06:05 (UTC)

Comment The critera by which something can be declared "not notable" apply to personal biographies, musical groups and webcomics. Thus any attempt to apply these criterea to this article is inherently flawed.
 * Very Strong Keep It is of my strongest belief that you should keep this page because it is not a vanity page. A vanity page would be something like, "LOOKATME! I'MWONDERFUL! JOINORDIE, plzkthxbai!" And you say that we use "meatpuppetry" to try and save our article. We don't need "meatpuppetry". What kind of Cardboardians would we be if we did not try and defend ourselves? We Cardboardians are trying to share our culture and history with the rest of the world, and we cannot even begin to if the article is deleted. Many of the people who have said "delete" do not even know what Cardboardia is truly like. And many, I'm sure, have said "delete" because of what 'evidence' that previous people have given. It sickens me to see the world in such a state that those who try to share their messageboard's unique atmosphere with other people cannot. I implore you to keep the article. It is a true diamond in the rough. ArtemisSakura July 8, 2005 09:21 (UTC)
 * User has three edits, two in this VFD and recently-created user page - Skysmith 9 July 2005 18:26 (UTC)
 * Comment I believe the 'Not notable enough' votes should be excluded, because it had been established that by Wikipedia rules, that an entry doesn't have to be notable to be on wikipedia. — ''(Comment by 24.136.194.95 and/or Chlorine, who seem to be the same person, and both of whom have 12 or fewer edits.)
 * On the contrary; votes from very new users are instead discounted as a general rule. A и D я 01D TALK  EMAIL  July 9, 2005 18:08 (UTC)
 * Not if they are by the author of the page. As far as I know, there were four authors to this page before the ruthless edit. Chlorine, Flippancy, Pokedigimaniac and myself(Moff). A couple of which haven't had accounts before they made the article in question, thus the lack of edits. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers
 * No Vote. No link means we can't look it up...  Almafeta 17:06, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Becky Baeling

Becky Baeling Lythgoe (born May 1, 1977) is an American singer-recording artist, actress, producer and television host.

Early life and family
Baeling was born in Rochester Hills, Michigan, as Rebecca Diane Bahling, the daughter of Wanda (née Vincent) (November 10, 1945 – May 18, 2013) and Garry Bahling, a Brigadier General F-16 fighter pilot in the Air National Guard and an expert witness in accident reconstruction. She has one older brother, Ronald Bahling. She is of Norwegian and Scottish descent. Later in life while recording her debut album, she changed one letter of her last name (the "h" to an "e") to Baeling, so that her surname would be pronounced correctly. She began taking dance lessons at the age of 6 at the Rochester School of Ballet and by the age of 12 was performing in various local and regional theaters including Stanley Hollingsworth's opera "The Selfish Giant" at Meadowbrook Theatre and singing and narrating the Detroit Symphony Orchestra at Orchestra Hall in Detroit. In high school, she was part of the National Honors Society and was named "best actress" and "class clown" by her peers. Upon graduation, she went on to attend the University of Michigan School of Music, Theatre & Dance and graduated with a BFA in musical theatre performance. During this time, she spent a summer singing in Chicago and a semester abroad studying drama more intensely at the Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts in London, England.

Baeling married her producing partner, theatre and TV producer Kris Lythgoe, on April 27, 2013, in a themed mystery wedding.

Music
After graduating from university, she moved to New York City and made money singing in jazz clubs, performing in regional theaters, and singing jingles for "Gatorade", "Slim Fast" and "Coca-Cola" to name a few. Soon after she was offered a demo deal from Epic Records to do a solo album and then later signed to Universal Records under Monte Lipman and Doug Morris. She began having success on Billboard's Hot Dance Club Play chart with her debut album, Becstasy, which was released on Universal Records in 2003. Baeling served as co- executive producer on the album, along with A&R man Lee Chesnut. Her most successful single to date has been "Getaway", which hit No. 1 on the U.S. billboard dance chart (produced by DJ Tony Moran), followed by "If You Love Me" which hit No. 3 on the U.S. Billboard dance chart (produced by Anders Bagge). By year end she was named No. 6 Dance Artist of the Year by Billboard Magazine and her single "If You Love Me" was No. 11 on Billboard's Hot Dance Club Play Singles of the year. In 2004, Baeling's song "Without Love", was covered by Ho Yeow Sun and hit No. 1 on the Billboard dance chart as well. Her movie soundtrack debut, "I'm Gonna Fly", was featured in The Guru starring Heather Graham and Marisa Tomei. Her cover of "Heaven Is a Place on Earth" is featured in the film Sleepover. During her years with Universal, she was managed by Larry Rudolph (known best for handling Britney Spears career).

She won the Best New Artist category at the 2004 International Dance Music Awards held in Miami, Florida.

Her television debut occurred in 2003, performing "Saturday in the Park" duet with Brian McKnight on Fox.

She also sang the song "My Grave", which was featured in the video game Dead or Alive 4.

She sang the National Anthem at a NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Race.

It is rumored that she has recorded dance remixes of some old Cy Coleman tunes and that she is working on another album.

TV presenting
She is also a television host/music journalist, serving as a host for Fox TV's Stars in Danger: The High Dive based on the long-running German format Stars in Danger.

From 2006 to 2008, she could be seen on virtually continuous rotation on DirecTV's The 101 program, CD:USA, sister program to the popular CD:UK series. On this show she interviewed musicians including Jamie Foxx, Kelly Clarkson, Clive Davis Rihanna, Jonas Brothers and The Goo Goo Dolls.

She served as a host for The Mobile Fix on Sprint TV.

She hosted and produced ''Star! Weekly'', a weekly entertainment news magazine show in Scandinavia for the E! Network, and was a guest commentator for BBC3's "The Most Annoying......" series for many years, and for several other commentary based programs for Elisabeth Murdoch's company Shine Ltd.

In 2008, she became the entertainment and celebrity correspondent for Discovery Planet Green's "G Word" program. During the first season, her segments included interviews with Trudie Styler about her and Sting's work with the Rainforest Foundation Fund, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and his work at Green Chimneys and NFL players from the Philadelphia Eagles among others.

Television acting
After completing a US club tour for Universal Records, she moved to Los Angeles, California and has had guest-starring roles on several television shows including All of Us on CW, House on Fox and How I Met Your Mother on CBS.

Producer
During her career as a television host, she began producing shows for Discovery Channel and Star! Weekly. She is EVP for Magic Pictures International producing television series including A Snow White Christmas: Opening Night for Ovation, and My Beautiful Game for Fox Sports/Fox Soccer and is a lead producer for Lythgoe Family Productions, bringing British Panto's to the American stage at its inception along with her husband Kris Lythgoe. Shows include thus far several productions of the following: "A Cinderella’s Christmas" with Lauren Taylor, Fred Willard, Morgan Fairchild, Veronica Dunne, Freddie Stroma, Alex Newell and Broadway's Shoshana Bean, A Snow White Christmas with Ariana Grande, Erich Bergen, Curt Hansen and Neil Patrick Harris as the on-screen Magic Mirror. "Aladdin’s Winter Wish" with Ben Vereen, Jordan Fisher, Richard Karn and Bruce Vilanch, "Sleeping Beauty’s Winter Knight" with Olivia Holt, Lucy Lawless, Jolie Fisher and Garrett Clayton, and "Peter Pan and Tinkerbell" starring Sabrina Carpenter, John O'Hurley, and Chrissie Fit.

Albums

 * Becstacy (2003)
 * The Guru soundtrack (2003), "I'm Gonna Fly"
 * Sleepover soundtrack (2004), "Heaven Is a Place on Earth"
 * "Ultra Dance 04" (2004), "Getaway"
 * "Maze:Miami Beach" (2004), "If You Love Me"
 * "Dance Diva's II" (2004), "Getaway"

Singles

 * If You Love Me, #3 on Billboard Dance Chart
 * Getaway, #1 on Billboard Dance Chart
 * Heaven Is a Place on Earth
 * Without Love covered by SUN, No. 1 on Billboard Dance Chart
 * Diva

Awards and honors

 * Great American Award, The All-American Boys Chorus, 2018

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Ujelang Atoll

Ujelang Atoll (Marshallese: Wūjlan̄, ) is an uninhabited coral atoll of 30 islands in the Pacific Ocean, in the Ralik Chain of the Marshall Islands. Its total land area is 1.86 km2, and it encloses a lagoon of 185.94 km2. It is the westernmost island in the Marshall Islands, approximately 217 km southeast of Enewetak, and approximately 600 km west of the main Ralik Chain.

History
Ujelang's first European visitor was Álvaro de Saavedra on 21 September 1529 shortly before his death, in his second attempt to return from Tidore to New Spain. Sighting of Ujelang was again recorded by the Spanish expeditions of Ruy López de Villalobos on 6 January 1543; of Miguel López de Legazpi on 15 January 1565; and by the mutineers of the San Jeronimo led by the pilot Lope Martín in 1566.

In 1811, the British merchant vessel Providence rediscovered the Atoll, and named Ujelang Island Providence Island. Providence had transported convicts from Britain to New South Wales and was on her way to China to pick up a cargo to take back to Britain.

The German Empire claimed Ujelang Atoll along with the rest of the Marshall Islands in 1885. It was the private property of German trading companies from 1880, who maintained copra plantations on the largest island, also called Ujelang. After World War I, the island came under the South Seas Mandate of the Empire of Japan. In 1935 there were only some 40 inhabitants.

During World War II, the island was occupied by the United States Army's Company I, 111th Infantry Regiment, which landed on 22 April 1944 and which used the island as a staging area before redeployment to Peleliu on 1 February 1945. The base was part of the vast Naval Base Marshall Islands.

Following the end of World War II, the island came under the control of the United States as part of the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands until the independence of the Marshall Islands in 1986. The island became a relocation center for the people of Enewetak Atoll in 1947 (due to atomic tests on that island from 1948 to 1958). The population on Ujelang grew from 145 in 1947 to 342 in 1973, despite near-famine and epidemics, especially in the 50s, due to the scarce supply of fish and vegetables. The inhabitants wanted to return to Enewetak and a highly publicized meeting was held at Ujelang in 1979 to discuss the issue. The United States government was represented by a variety of personnel, primarily Department of Energy (DOE) and Department of Interior representatives. The DOE's legal counsel was William L. Brown. The meeting gained national attention because the CBS television show 60 Minutes went along and publicized the islanders’ desire to return to Enewetak with an extended film segment that ran several times.

The clean-up of Enewetak was essentially done except for several areas which were declared unsafe for human habitation until 2010. Hundreds of new coconut trees were planted and vast amounts of sediment and other material contaminated by radioactivity were entombed under a giant concrete dome. The next year, in 1980, all Ujelang inhabitants were returned to Enewetak. A hundred or so soon returned to Ujelang because Enewetak could not support so many people, but their stay on Ujelang was short-lived. In 1989 Ujelang became permanently uninhabited. Ujelang Atoll is currently owned by the Enewetak Council and is now very rarely visited.

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Ailinginae Atoll

Ailinginae Atoll (Marshallese: Aelōn̄in Ae, ) is an uninhabited (due to Castle Bravo nuclear testing) coral atoll of 25 islands in the Pacific Ocean, on the northern end of the Ralik Chain of the Marshall Islands. Its total land area is only 2.8 km2, but it encloses a lagoon of 105.96 km2. It is located approximately 13 km west of Rongelap Atoll. The landscape is low-lying with only the top 3 m above sea level. The two entrances into the lagoon are 'Mogiri Pass' and 'Eniibukku Pass'. These are 0.9 and 0.3 mi wide respectively.

The average temperature of these islands is about 27 °C during daytime and slightly warmer during night-time due to cold weather associated with rain showers during daytime. The rainy season is from September through November. The island is covered with 29 species of plants scrub, grasses and some stands of Pisonia grandis trees.

History
The first sighting recorded by Europeans was by the Spanish navigator Álvaro de Saavedra on 1 January 1528. Together with Utirik Atoll and Rongelap Atoll, they were charted as Islas de los Reyes (Islands of the Three Wise Kings in Spanish) due to the proximity of Epiphany

Ailinginae Atoll was claimed by the German Empire along with the rest of the Marshall Islands in 1885. After World War I, the island came under the South Seas Mandate of the Empire of Japan. Following the end of World War II, it came under the control of the United States as part of the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands until the independence of the Marshall Islands in 1986. Ailinginae Atoll has been uninhabited since 1954 when the few islanders were evacuated due to nuclear fallout fears from the Castle Bravo test at Bikini Atoll to the northwest.

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Category:Mill shows

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 12:52, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

POV, not concrete enough of a definition for categorization, not verifiable. – flamurai (t) 21:54, July 14, 2005 (UTC) I have also nominated Mill show for deletion at Votes for deletion/Mill show. – flamurai (t) 01:22, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete. List already exists on main article Mill show. siafu 22:24, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Other programs will surely be added as more mill shows are produced. Spotteddogsdotorg 22:48, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * That's not my objection to the category. How do you determine what to label a "mill show"? For example, you have American Chopper listed, yet that show has 3 seasons with 52 total episodes. Most network shows have more than that. You could go back and retroactively apply this neologism to many other shows. – flamurai (t) 23:51, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. POV and not encyclopedic. Kaibabsquirrel 02:15, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * You just want it deleted because I put it up! 24.240.235.19 07:04, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. This appears to be based on a neologism, which the VfD has not so far been able to verify. -Splash 23:02, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete I made a note on its history on the Vfd, but its just a short version of "run-of-the-mill show". The show itself was renamed to Made in Canada with a US tile of The Industry. Definately does not need a category, as if they are "run-of-the-mill shows", they probably wouldn't be on Wiki anyways. If they are, they would probably be cat'd under "Failed shows" or something similar.  ∞ Who ? ¿ ?  06:59, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Mystery books

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The result of the debate was merge --Kbdank71 12:55, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Redundant with Category:Mystery novels as all the entries currently are fiction -- this category is not being used for true-crime books, nor for articles about the process of writing mystery books. This should be merged with Category:Mystery novels. DES 20:33, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge as above. Radiant_ >|< 08:19, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge per DES K1Bond007 06:22, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * What about collections of short stories? Maurreen 07:52, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * If there are enough, rename Category:Mystery novels to Category:Mystery fiction. No resaon for two categories for written mysteries, IMO. DES 17:15, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Maurreen 21:44, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Main Page

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 12:57, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Has only one article, WikiProject Main Page. The contents of the category might be more appropriate in that article instead. I have no idea what other articles would need to be placed in this category. Oleg Alexandrov 18:19, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete. Speedy? siafu 22:12, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Pavel Vozenilek 23:32, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not really worth a category. — Stevey7788 (talk) 06:13, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Bob Marley

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The result of the debate was keep --Kbdank71 12:57, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

I think somebody must have created this by mistake.illWill 18:00, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep not necessarily an accident. See Category:The Beatles and Category:The Pixies, just a few of many artists with their own categories, usually only the ones with a large number of albums and songs. It could probably use a nice intro description though. Unless I missed a dup cat somewhere.
 * Its always good to refer to:
 * Is it possible to write a few paragraphs or more on the subject of a category, explaining it?
 * If you go to the article from the category, will it be obvious why it's there? Is the category subject prominently discussed in the article?

∞ Who ? ¿ ? 07:06, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep -- CdaMVvWgS 12:47, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

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Category:U.S. aircraft manufacturers

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 12:58, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Rename to Category:United States aircraft manufacturers. Radiant_ >|< 12:58, July 14, 2005 (UTC) Rename to Category:American aircraft manufacturers. Hiding talk 15:24, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename as nominated. --Kbdank71 13:43, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename, though perhaps "Aircraft Manufacturers of Foo" would be better overall than the current "Fooish Aircraft Manufacturers". siafu 22:16, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Point, however the rest of the subcats under Category:Aircraft manufacturers are currently "Fooian (or Fooish if you prefer) Aircraft Manufacturers", and I'd rather not get into another umbrella situation right now (esp. with Czech and Soviet ones to deal with). --Kbdank71 15:04, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Swedish aircraft manufacturers

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The result of the debate was no consensus (keep) --Kbdank71 13:02, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Just one article since it's creation almost a year ago; unneccessary without other articles. siafu 00:04, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Necessary for complete and accurate categorisation. CalJW 09:26, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as of CalJW argument above. -- Elisson • Talk 11:43, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. One article does not a category make.  --Kbdank71 12:56, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak delete per KBdank, but hope that a cross-referencing category system will be implemented some time this year. Radiant_ >|< 12:58, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as per User:CalJW. — Instantnood 20:28, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Kbdank71. IMO, a better solution would be a Category:European aircraft manufacturers, having the European countries' aircraft manufacturers' categories as members along with articles on 'only-one-in-a-country' manufacturers (like Saab). --Wernher 19:00, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, we could probably do that with Category:Aircraft manufacturers, as there are only 32 subcats there, so at most, there would be a mix of 32 subcats and articles.--Kbdank71 19:22, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Move per Wernher, though I'm leaving the now strictly as it is to not complicate the votes made already, I think that, upon reflection, this solution is better than a simple delete. siafu 19:13, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment I am borderline on this one (del or keep NO merge) Kbdank71 & Radiant make excellent points. I think this may just be a lack of articles atm, I could have swore I seen articles on specific Swedish aircraft manufactures, and it would be used in the future. If they cannot be found by the end of the discussion however, it would not be needed at this time, and can be created later.   ∞ Who ? ¿ ?  07:11, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
 * According to List_of_aircraft_manufacturers_T-Z there is also a company called Windexair that would qualify, but it's currently a red link. siafu 16:02, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Putting orphan manufacturers one level down feels inconvenient (people would move other articles here). Pavel Vozenilek 23:53, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

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Lib Island

Lib Island (Marshallese: Ellep, ) is an island in the Pacific Ocean. It is a legislative district of the Ralik Chain of the Marshall Islands. Its total land area is 0.93 km2. The population of Lib Island was 156 as per the 2021 census.

History
The first recorded sighting by Europeans of Lib Island happened on 8 January 1565 by Spanish navigator Alonso de Arellano commanding patache San Lucas. It was charted by Arellano as Los Nadadores ("The Swimmers" in Spanish). In his account of the sighting, Arellano stated that the inhabitants of Lib would be fine for pulling an oar in a galley, being big and well made, and were warlike people, being expert in throwing stones with slings. He also expressed an opinion that they must be of the Devil because their island was a thousand leagues from firm land.

Captain Thomas Dennet of the British vessel Britannia sighted the island in 1797 on route from Australia to China and named it Princess Island.

Education
Marshall Islands Public School System operates Lib Elementary School.

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Talk:Australian English/Archive 1

Acceptance of different spellings
I take issue with this: ''The exposure to the different spellings of British and American English leads to a certain amount of spelling confusion—for instance, "organize" as opposed to "organise", or "behavior" as opposed to "behaviour". Generally, either variant is accepted.''

I was under the impression that current Australian standards were to always use the 's' over 'z' and to keep 'u'. Or at least that seems to be how things are done in WA schools.

 * Actually the Macquarie dictionary clearly states that either are acceptable but in reality Australian English is quite notable for its strong preference of "-ise" spellings especially. Generally Australians prefer British spellings with -our and -re but some American spellings are more common here than in the UK for particular words. There is no one "Australian standard". The government and some large companines issue their own style guides as does Macquarie - but they don't necessarily agree. — Hippietrail 02:07, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)

 * British dictionaries prefer <-ize> to <-ise> but this is not a good reflexion on the actual preference of British people. I've seen both in Australia.  As for <-or> and/or <-er> instead of <-our> and/or <-re> respectively, though, I don't think that this is common at all umongst ordinary Aussies. - Jimp a.k.a Jim

I have taken out the example of Australian Labor Party as an Americanism - rather it is an older spelling variation. I found when researching World War 1 memorials that Honour Boards were often referred to as Honor Boards - it is only in the latter half of the 20th century that in Australia we have preferred the variant of labour and honour with the letter "u". I do not believe that the spelling without the "u" is an American variant in the case of the Labor Party. --AYArktos 08:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Aitch
I think that to say that the pronunciation of "h" as "haitch" is not universal is still an overstatement. It is not even common and, as one might predict from the explanation, it is traditionally limited to Roman Catholics (20-25% of the population). Like the expression "youse" it is not considered slang or dialect but simply incorrect, even by those who accidentally say it.

 * I totally agree. Does anyone really say "Haitch"? I thought everyone in Australia said "aitch" just like everyone else?!

 * "Haitch" is very common in Australia. I have lived in 4 states and have not yet detected a pattern of who uses it and who does not. I can't remember if I used to use this pronunciation but I do recall that certain teachers and parents used to reprimand those who do. Members of my family, all Melbournians use it. I do not use it. One of my work colleagues uses it and he was raised in the NT and ACT. At work we have many foreign travelers and often they pick up on his pronunciation of this letter and use it mockingly, though he does not seem to notice it. I've also heard British people here discussing it and generalising it as a marker of Australian speech. Where on earth does the relgion-based division come from???? — Hippietrail 13:06, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Hippietrail, you are obviously from Australia (as you talk about coming from Melbourne), don't you know how to spell traveller. -- Anon
 * Nope, not all the time. Thanks for giving an excellent demonstration of the hard-to-define Australian term "wanker" though! You'll make a fine pedant one day. — Hippietrail 15:16, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Now be nice. I only pointed this out, because it shows how American influence has had an effect on our subconscienceness, unless you were just being careless (American spelling is one of my pet peeves). -- Anon

 * As long as we're publicly correcting one another, there is no such word as "subconscienceness" in either Australian or American dictionaries. At least "traveller" and "humor" are accepted spellings somewhere. (In fact, -or spellings go all the way back to the Latin; the -our versions come from French. Why aren't we complaining about French influence on our language corrupting the good old Latin?) Nor is it correct (in either variety of English) to end a question with a full stop, and this is one of my pet peeves. You might want to work on perfecting your own English before telling others off for much smaller errors. --Calair 00:19, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * You're wrong about the word "subconscienceness" it's a word used in both the Australian and British dictionaries I have (an American dictionary is irrelevant in Australia as far as I'm concerned). It is also a word that is generally accepted for use in Australia - I've heard it used in the media and in government.

 * Can't find any hits in Oxford. Nor on any Australian site, government or otherwise. In fact, Googling finds just | 31 hits, all apparently due to people (mostly American) who misspelt "subconscious" (which sounds quite similar, but is obviously not the same thing). I would like to learn more about this word - on what page of what Australian and British dictionaries did you find it?
 * The word 'subconscience' shows up a bit more often; again, most hits seem to be misspellings of 'subconscious'. The remainder seem to be modifications of 'conscience', which isn't exactly relevant to a discussion on US/Australian spelling. --Calair 00:50, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * You are right subconscienceness is not a word, I was careless in my spelling of "subconsciousness". I also didn't look at the spelling of the word properly in my dictionaries. I will not go around picking on anyone's spelling in discussion pages anymore. I will take your advice and improve my own English. Just, it really annoys me when I see Australians using American spelling, whether deliberate or not. -- Anon

 * About my punctuation, it was more of a statement than a question, but perhaps I should have phrased it better.
 * "don't you know how to spell humour" is in no way a statement. It is a question, and even rhetorical questions deserve their question marks. --Calair 00:50, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * What happened with the -or / -our endings was that the British changed those Latin words that end in -or around the early eighteenth century period to copy the French version of those words that the French spell with an -eur ending. Then in the early nineteenth century Webster came along and changed them back to the original Latin form to differentiate the spelling of those words from the British spelling. You are right about the French influence on English though, but that started just after the Norman invasion of England, when Norman-French scribes destroyed the spelling of Old English words, the grammar and the alphabet it used. Now that we have criticised each other, lets all be friends and get on with our lives. -- Anon

Deadpan Humour
The comment about deadpan humour is not limited to Australian English. Perhaps it belongs on the Anti-Americanism page. When Americans tell an outlandish story they will be very quick to add, "It's only a joke." -- just to avoid a lawsuit. I try not to tell Americans when I'm joking; to do so would be to insult their intelligence.

I don't think we (Australians) use deadpan humour purely to embarass Amerkins - it's a regular feature of communication between us. And whoever added that comment also noted that it is a British trait as well. It could also be added that Amerkins (in general) don't grasp the "friendly put-down" and take offence rather easily. So I do think it is quite fair to observe that (in general) Amerkins don't get deadpan humour (as used here). In their defence a handful actually do, and they can actually be pleasant to have around. (Well some of the time, anyway, until they start acting like they actually understand what good coffee is). User:MMGB

 * I was trying to be NPOV with that comment, in that a) Australians do use deadpan humor a fair bit, amongst themselves as well as to foriegners, b) it is inherited from Britain, and c) Americans don't (generally) use it in a similar way, thus leading to a fair amount of cultural confusion. I'm not trying to imply that Americans are stupid, merely that they don't have the same learned response to run every such story through the BS detector and laugh if it goes off.  I thought it was relevant in that it is one of the major causes of confusion when conversing between Americans and Australians.  As to our view of the United States, it is a highly complex one, and varies greatly according to personal experience and political outlook (and is a discussion for another page). --Robert Merkel
 * Mr Merkel, you are obviously from Australia (seen your user page), don't you know how to spell humour. -- Anon

 * This is a tricky one. Deadpan humour seems pretty universal to me.  I've seen people from all sorts of places -- America definitely included -- use it and get it.  Whether one gets it seems to depend more on personality than culture.  Similarly with put-downs; Americans certainly flip each other shit (take the piss out of each other) all the time.  It's not that Americans don't get the concept of friendly put-downs, but that the boundaries of what's considered friendly may be in different places.

 * On the other hand, I completely believe that Americans have a reputation, deserved or not, for missing tall tales (odd, because tall tales are a lively and vibrant aspect of many American subcultures, and the more deadpan the delivery the better). It's not clear whether more of us just don't get it, or whether Americans who don't react more noticeably to not getting a joke, or whether Americans who don't get it tend to be louder and more noticeable in general than Americans who do, or whether it's all just another national myth.

 * Trying to gauge what's acceptable humor is a general source of uncertainty when getting to know someone, and leg-pulling is probably one of the harder genres in that respect (another difficult and highly context-dependent area is just how much one may rely on stereotypes). As mentioned above, Americans may be more likely not put out the right cues in the "am I supposed to laugh now?" situation and thus be perceived as humourless.  But this is veering dangerously close to the stereotyping that, judging by the article text, Aussies are just as sensitive about as anyone else (and rightly so). --dmh

The word larrikin seems to be in vogue right now, in this period of serious introspection, to describe a particularly Australian form of dead pan humour. An Australian myself, and having spent eleven years from age 24 on, in Europe, I am more aware of it than most ordinary Australians. I have experienced this humour from mildly ironic, thru laconic to sadonic (sick or black). It recentley took me three days to engage my inner Virtual Interpreter to translate every apparent insult into it's opposite ie Silly Old Bastard meant completely the opposite. I believe it's origin lies in the Sparten word Laconic meaning terse and rude and might probably have been used by the petty thief; english (larceny). Either way it is extremely difficult to engage in any meaningfull conversation. user:Jus

Picking on Americans
Just wanted to say, as an American, that after reading this article I feel a bit picked on. We're not all ignorant ethnocentric slobs, you know.

Although I will confess that not only can I not distinguish between a New Zealand and Australia accent, I can barely distinguish between an English and a South African English accent. *sigh* Such an interesting point, one that I've never heard before, that you have to be a continental insider (Down Under; North America) to be able to distinguish NZ-Oz or US-Canadian accent differences. I've been surrounded by Canadians lately and suddenly the usually-just-mocked-and-not-much-heard Canadian accent is as clear as day. Huh. I wonder if the U.S. Southern accent is distinguishable...

Anyway, enough babbling for now. Just came to say the thing about picked on, and request someone somewhere write about "How the Australians got their accents" and "How the Americans got their accents"--aren't their supposed to be cultural/social roots in the UK? jengod 06:52, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I think the general view is that the Australian accent is descended from the London - Cockney accent, since most of the early convicts were petty crims from the London slums, while the American accent descends from northern English accents, particularly Yorkshire and East Anglia, since that is where so many of the early Protestant pioneers came from. That explains why Americans and Yorshirepersons both say "can't" to rhyme with cant while Londoners and Australians say "carnt". Adam 08:14, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Is There A Pattern?
This quote is, I think, a bit misguided and confusing.

Australian English has a unique set of diminutives... There does not appear to be any particular pattern to which of these suffixes is used.. Occasionally, a -za diminutive is used, usually for personal names. Barry becomes Bazza, Karen becomes Kazza and Sharon becomes Shazza.

In the final example, the writer seems to refute his/her own claim that there appears not to be a pattern by giving several examples that show a clear pattern in the usage of the -za diminutive. To the casual observer, and indeed to the everyday speaker of Australian English, it seems clear that the pattern here is found in names with an R in the middle between two syllables. We could also mention that Darren becomes Dazza to further support this.

It's a small thing, but I think I'm right. However, I'm not willing to make changes to a page that I've only read for the first time today.

Thoughts?

 * I edited this in some time back, without seeing this here, as it happens. So yes, definitely agree. Perey 02:33, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Long list of slang
The slang words list seems very long (other "Englishs" don't have similar lists, even though they have similarly large unique slang vocabularies). Should the list be moved into its own page sometime? 29 OCT 2004

 * Also, I'm not opposed to splitting off the slang into its own article. — Hippietrail 23:28, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * I think, given the list's length, it would be entirely appropriate to move it to its own page with prominent links in the main Australian English article. Australian slang would seem the most obvious choice. -- Guybrush 03:30, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The Unconvincing Solution
I believe the answer to that question is "Yes." Australian vocabulary takes up at least half of this article (and this discussion section too).

Here's what I'm about to do. I'm going to take Sections 2 and 5 ("Australian words" and "Vocabulary") and combine them to create a new article, "Australian Vocabulary", on another page. I'll leave a summarised version on this page with a link to the new page.

- Jimp

 * I'm not convinced of the wisdom of this, as the slang is such an important part of the way that Australians use English. And where is the link to the new page? Grant65 (Talk) 10:24, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

The link was under the heading Australian Vocabulary. The section is now renamed just Vocabulary (which is fair enough) and has the link twice. I'm not clear as to what wisdom you're not convinced of, Grant. If our slang is so important, then doesn't this mean it deserves it's own page? Also, I'm not keen on focusing on slang. Slang is only a subset of vocabulary and a rather difficult subset to delineate at that. - Jim
 * On the contrary Jim, there is nothing wrong with repeating some material twice on different pages -- if necessary. There is now no undue emphasis on slang and it doesn't seem that "difficult to delineate", especially given the growing list of slang that is on the Australian words page. By the way, I have removed the summary from the start of the Vocabulary section because it summarises material which is now immediately above it. Grant65 (Talk) 23:28, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)

I think I see where you're coming from, Grant. No, nothing wrong with repetition where necessary or even just where useful. And I agree, there is no undue emphasis on slang in either article.

When I wrote about focusing on slang it was only in reference to your comment that slang was important. I had only hoped to clarify what you meant there. Vocabulary is what's important; slang is only a subset but I think that you'd agree.

The Australian vocabulary list is not really a list of slang. It contains such terms as Anglo-Celtic, dummy, footpath, Manchester and nature strip. None of these qualify as slang in my book. On the other hand there are terms like cactus, carn, arse and derro which definitely are slang.

When I write that it's difficult to delineate slang I refer to such words as bushwalking, chook, battler and ute. Are they slang or not? The thing is that it's not really important because they're listed under Australian vocabulary with no emphasis on whether they are slang. This is the best way to do things as far as I can see.

So, when you wrote that you weren't convinced of the wisdom of what I did you meant that you weren't keen on having all reference to vocabulary on the new page, right? That makes sense. The way the two articles have been reorganised since I split them makes good sense. I can see the advantages of this reorganisation. I don't mind your having removed the summary that I wrote. You're right: there's no need for it any more. -Jimp 10Mar05

Anyway, here's why I split the article. - Jimp 18Mar05

Before I had my go at this page the table of contents looked like this.

Contents
 * '''1 Differences from other variants of English
 * 2 Australian words
 * 2.1 Diminutives
 * 3 Varieties of Australian English
 * 3.1 Regional variation
 * 3.2 Regional Phonetic Variation
 * 4 Phonology
 * 4.1 Vowels and Diphthongs
 * 4.2 Consonants
 * 4.3 Allophones
 * 4.4 Other phonological phenomena
 * 4.5 Myths about Australian English
 * 5 Vocabulary
 * 5.1 Unique Australian words, slang and/or usage
 * 5.2 Rhyming slang
 * 5.3 Old or expired slang
 * 5.4 Food and culinary terms
 * 6 External links

I took sections two and five, shuffled them up a bit and made a new article entitled Australian Vocabulary. It's now been renamed Australian words. - Jim 23Mar05

Why I Split The Article
Anyway, here's the logic behind my splitting the article up; it might not qualify as wisdom. The article was very long and so probably needed to be split. Two full sections (plus one subsection) focussed on vocubulary: more than half the article. Others had commented on moving the long list of "slang" (i.e. vocabulary) onto it's own page.

Had I not gone ahead and split the article there'd probably have been no change. This jumble wanted sorting into two piles. Someone had to fix it. If the person who fixes something here botches it up, there's usually someone to clean up the mess. I just wanted to get the ball rolling. I had neither imagined nor even hoped that things would be left the way that I put them.

Whilst I was at it I thought that some of the paragraphs could use being reshuffled. That I did. I think that the way I left it was better than the way I found it. I s'pose I did leave the job half done, though, but sure enough there was someone to finish it off, thank you, Grant.

Things have been rearranged again. The way things are now is better than how they were before I split the article. I'm not about to quibble about whose rearrangement is better: as I say, I was only half done.

So what I'm saying is this. It might not wise to have the articles the way I left them the on 8Mar05 but this is not the question. They say that the ends justify the means and sometimes it's true. Between us we've made an improvement so I think I can rightly say it was useful to have put things the way I did.

On a completely different note. Do you know what's going on with the Phonology section? Diphthongs are vowels, // is a vowel. There are 20 vowels in AusE (give or take) not 11. Also not all non-prevocallic s become pronounced as // in non-rhotic dialects. I've ranted at length in the "The Unconvincing Solution" setion of the article's talk page. - Jim 10Mar05

Other Fixed Problems
Here are a couple of other problems with the article that I've fixed up. I'm mentioning them so people can see what changes I've made any why. Also because they've been fixed I don't see why they need to take up space on the Talk Australian English page. - Jim 23Mar05

The Links Don't Work
Maquarie Uni has gone and rearranged their website so any links to it don't work anymore. In the "Phonology Section" I replaced one broken link with Google's cached page in it's place.

I've removed the following broken links from the External Links section.

 * The Vowels of Australian English and Other English Dialects
 * Phonemic (Broad) Transcription of Australian English

These broken links could similarly be replaced with Google caches. However, I don't suppose that these pages will be avilable forever. With a bit of luck Mac Uni will give us a new pages with the same info. Maybe they have done so already but I can't find it. - Jim
 * Moved comment made by Jim from the article page – AxSkov 13:57, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wrong IPA/X-SAMPA symbols
According to Cox et. al it's (X-SAMPA) [6] & [6:] for the vowels in "hut" & "heart". A good look at an IPA graph will show that [a] is similar to (IPA) [æ] except that it's more open. This is not the vowel we use in these words. I have adjusted the vowel table in the "Phonology" section. -Jim

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Namu Atoll

Namu Atoll (Marshallese: Nam̧o, ) is a coral atoll of 54 islands in the Pacific Ocean, and forms a legislative district of the Ralik Chain of the Marshall Islands. Its total land area is only 6.27 km2, but that encloses a lagoon of 397 km2. It is located approximately 62 km south-southwest of Kwajalein Atoll.

There are four main population centres, the islands of Namu, Majkin, Loen and Mae. The population of Namu Atoll was 525 at the 2021 census.

History
The Spanish expedition of Álvaro de Mendaña made the first recorded sighting by Europeans of Namu Atoll on 17 September 1568. The pilot, Hernán Gallego, mistook it for San Bartolome (Bokak Atoll), which Toribio Alonso de Salazar had seen in 1526, although Bokak was a long way to the north. Mendaña says they named them San Mateo Shoals. The islands were inhabited, with many houses. A landing party found a chisel made of a nail and pieces of rope which were presumably gifts left there on 3 July 1566 by the galleon San Jerónimo, then commanded by the rebel pilot Lope Martín. Captain Thomas Dennet of the British vessel Britannia sighted the atoll in 1797 on route from Australia to China and named it Ross Island.

The German Empire claimed Namu Atoll along with the rest of the Marshall Islands in 1885. After World War I, the island came under the South Seas Mandate of the Empire of Japan. The base became part of the vast US Naval Base Marshall Islands. Following the end of World War II, it came under the control of the United States as part of the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands until 1986 when the Marshall Islands achieved their independence.

Education
Marshall Islands Public School System operates public schools:
 * Loen Elementary School
 * Mae Elementary School
 * Majkin Elementary School
 * Namo Elementary School

Students are zoned to Jaluit High School in Jaluit Atoll.

In the 1994–1995 school year Namu had one private high school.

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Mareeba

Mareeba is a rural town and locality in the Shire of Mareeba in Far North Queensland, Australia. Between 2008 and 2013, it was within the Tablelands Region. The town's name is derived from an Aboriginal word meaning meeting of the waters. In the, the locality of Mareeba had a population of 11,825 people.

Geography
The town is 417 m above sea level on the confluence of the Barron River, Granite Creek and Emerald Creek.

The town's main street is the Mulligan Highway which branches off from the Kennedy Highway when coming in from Cairns (63.3 km; 40 miles) away passing localities such as Speewah, Kuranda and Barron Gorge.

The Tablelands railway line enters the locality from the north (Biboohra), passes through the town, and exits to the west (Chewko). The locality is served by the following railway stations (from north to south):

 * Floreat railway station, now abandoned (-16.9799°N, 145.4166°W)
 * Mareeba railway station (-16.9928°N, 145.4212°W)
 * Turkinje railway station, now abandoned (-17.0852°N, 145.4364°W)

The Lotus Glen Correctional Centre is located in Arriga, 14 km; 9 miles outside Mareeba.

History
Prior to European settlement, the area around Mareeba was inhabited by the Muluridji people. They maintained a hunter/gatherer existence in the area between Mount Carbine, Mareeba, Rumula (near Julatten) and Woodville (near Canoona), mainly concentrated between Biboohra and Mount Molloy. In the local Aboriginal language, Mareeba means meeting of the waters - referring to the point at which the Barron River is joined by Granite Creek.

On 26 May 1875 James Venture Mulligan became the first European officially to see the future site of Mareeba when he rode up the eastern bank of the Barron River, and passed the junctions of Emerald Creek and Granite Creek.

The Mareeba area was first settled by Europeans in 1877 by John Atherton, who arrived with cattle at Emerald End, which is just north of the town today. Mareeba quickly became a busy coach stop for Cobb & Co on the road from Port Douglas to Herberton. When the railway arrived in 1893, Mareeba grew into a busy town.

Mareeba Post Office opened on 25 August 1893 (a receiving office named Granite Creek had been open from 1891). A Mareeba Diggings Post Office opened by 1893 and closed in 1905.

Mareeba State School opened on 28 August 1893.

St Thomas of Villanova Catholic School opened on 1 January 1909. St Thomas' celebrated their centenary in 2009. The Mareeba parish of the Roman Catholic Vicariate Apostolic of Cooktown (now the Roman Catholic Diocese of Cairns) was established in 1911.

From 1942 to 1945 during World War II, up to 10,000 Australian and US service personnel used Mareeba Airfield as a staging post for battles in New Guinea and the South West Pacific theatre. The Americans referred to it as Hoevet Field in honour of Major Dean Carol "Pinky" Hoevet who was killed on 16 August 1942. Units that were based at Mareeba included No. 5 Squadron of the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF), No. 100 Squadron RAAF, the Australian 33rd Light Anti-Aircraft Battery, the 19th Bomb Group of the United States Army Air Forces ( USAAF), the 43rd Bomb Group USAAF and the 8th Fighter Group USAAF. For a period of two years during World War II, Mareeba State School was taken over by the army, so St Thomas’ Catholic School accommodated the entire school population of Mareeba.

Mareeba Library opened in 1958. It underwent a major refurbishment in 1985.

Mareeba State High School opened on 25 January 1960.

Mareeba is also home to an Albanian Australian community that dates from the interwar period. Built by local Albanian Australians, the Mareeba Mosque was opened on Anzac Day, 1970 and is dedicated to Australian soldiers who lost their lives in war.

On 24 January 2006, St Stephen's Catholic College opened after a nearly 10-year approval process regarding the provision of Catholic secondary education.

In October 2011, most of the land (209 hectares; 516 acres) of the former state farm / research station at Kairi was sold by the Queensland Government, retaining only 26 hectares (65 acres). The sale of the land was to fund the establishment of the Agri-Science Hub at Peters Street in Mareeba. The hub focusses on agricultural research and development, together with education and training. James Cook University is a partner of the hub, researching tropical agriculture, aquaculture and biosecurity. The hub opened on 16 December 2011.

At the 2023 Australian Indigenous Voice referendum the town overwhelmingly voted No. 85% of Mareeba's residents voted No which was one of the largest proportion of No votes in the country.

Demographics
At the 2006 census, Mareeba had a population of 6,806 people.

In the 2011 census, Mareeba had a population of 10,181 people.

In the, the locality of Mareeba had a population of 11,079 people. Mareeba includes the largest Italian Australian community of any suburb in Queensland, numbering 1,608 individuals and making up 10.8% of the town's population.

In the, the locality of Mareeba had a population of 11,825 people.

Heritage listings
Mareeba has a number of heritage-listed sites, including:
 * 136 Walsh Street: Mareeba Shire Hall
 * 167 Walsh Street: Assay Office

Climate
Mareeba has a tropical savanna climate (Köppen: Aw); with a short, hot wet season from December to March and a length, warm dry season from April to November. Due to its elevation, average minima are lowered: ranging from from 14.0 C in August to 21.5 C in January to February. In addition, due to being in a rain shadow, average annual rainfall is only 875.9 mm. Despite Mareeba township's tagline reading "300 sunny days a year", and its reputation as a sunny place, Mareeba only receives 86.2 clear days annually. Extreme temperatures have ranged from 40.7 C on the 5th of January 1994 to 0.4 C on the 28th of June 1963.

Temperature, rainfall and 3 pm conditions were taken from the new Mareeba Airport weather station, which opened in 2000. Meanwhile, extreme temperature data was combined from Mareeba's QWRC, old Airport and new Airport weather stations. In addition, sun data was taken from Walkamin Research Station, 7.1 km south of the town.

Economy
Numerous crops are grown throughout Mareeba Shire, including avocados, mangoes, lychees, longans, sugar cane, cashews, macadamias, bananas, pineapples, tea tree oil, coffee, cotton and a variety of vegetables and tropical fruits. Poultry and cattle are also common. Tobacco was once the main grown crop of the local economy, but is no longer grown within the Mareeba shire.

Tourism also contributes to the local economy.

Education
Mareeba State School is a government primary (Prep–6) school for boys and girls at Constance Street (-16.9919°N, 145.4249°W). In 2018, the school had an enrolment of 866 students with 69 teachers (64 full-time equivalent) and 48 non-teaching staff (33 full-time equivalent). In includes a special education program.

St Thomas' School is a Catholic primary (Prep–6) school for boys and girls at 63 Constance Street (-16.9952°N, 145.4254°W). In 2018, the school had an enrolment of 426 students with 33 teachers (26 full-time equivalent) and 27 non-teaching staff (15 full-time equivalent).

Mareeba State High School is a government secondary (7–12) school for boys and girls at Jasper Street (-16.9958°N, 145.4163°W). In 2018, the school had an enrolment of 732 students with 70 teachers (66 full-time equivalent) and 45 non-teaching staff (33 full-time equivalent). It includes a special education program.

St Stephen's Catholic College is a Catholic secondary (7–12) school for boys and girls at 3 McIver Road (-17.0176°N, 145.4198°W). In 2018, the school had an enrolment of 555 students with 57 teachers (48 full-time equivalent) and 32 non-teaching staff (22 full-time equivalent).

Health
Mareeba Hospital is in the Tablelands Health District. It provides 52 beds, with surgical, maternity, pediatric, outpatient, emergency and x-ray facilities.

Sports
Mareeba Gladiators are the local rugby league team. The Gladiators participate in the Cairns District Rugby League competition. They last won the Premiership in 2007.

Amenities
Mareeba Shire Council operates a public library at 221 Byrnes Street. The library facility opened in 1958, with a major refurbishment in 1985 and minor refurbishment in 2013.

The Mareeba branch of the Queensland Country Women's Association meets at the CWA Hall on the corner of Dempster Street and Wilkes Street. The Cairns Aerial Outpost branch of the Queensland Country Women's Association meets at 15 Wilson Street.

St Thomas of Villanova's Catholic Church is at 59 Constance Street. St Stephen's College at Lot 3 McIver Road also has a Catholic church. Both are within the Mareeba Parish of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Cairns.

The Mareeba Mosque is at 108 Walsh Street.

Media
Mareeba is serviced by the following radio stations:
 * 4AM 558
 * ABC Far North 720
 * ABC Radio National 105.1
 * ABC News Radio 101.1
 * ABC Classic 105.9
 * Triple J 107.5
 * Hit FM 103.5
 * KIK FM 88.7
 * Black Star Radio FM 96.7
 * Rhema FM 92.3
 * Triple M 99.5

Attractions
Tourist attractions in the Mareeba Shire include the Golden Drop Mango Winery, Jaques Coffee Plantation, Coffee Works, Mareeba Heritage Museum, Mareeba Rock Wallabies and Granite Gorge Nature Park, Emerald Creek Falls, and Davies Creek Falls.

Events
The Mareeba Rodeo and Festival is held annually, with the first Affiliated Mareeba Rodeo held in July 1949 (which is now the home ground of the Gladiators Rugby league team). The rodeo is hosted at the Kerribee Park Rodeo Grounds, located slightly out of town on route to Dimbulah. In 2014, the attendance was 13,000, almost double the town's normal population. A parade through the town is held, and the Rodeo Queen is crowned (the first Princess was crowned in 1959). A ute muster is often staged over the same weekend as the rodeo. In 1999 Mareeba District Rodeo Association Inc. celebrated their 50 years Golden Jubilee of the foundation of the Association and 20 years of the opening of "Kerribee Park".

The FNQ Country Music Festival and Talent Search is held annually at Kerribee Park Rodeo Grounds. The event is hosted by the Walkamin Country Music Club.

Each year on the third Sunday of January, St Thomas's Catholic Church celebrates the Feast of Santo Nino which celebrates Jesus as a child. The event is of special significance to the Filipino Australians. After the Mass, there is a celebratory meal of Filipino cuisine.

Each year, on the second Sunday of September, St Thomas's Catholic Church celebrates the Feast of Our Lady of the Chain. The celebration begins with a procession through various streets of Mareeba and culminates in a fireworks display.

Notable residents

 * Aron Baynes (born 1986), Australian basketball player 2014 NBA champion
 * Harriett Brims (1864–1939), pioneer female commercial photographer
 * Steven Ciobo (born 1974), Australian politician
 * Tom Gilmore, Jr. (born 1946), Australian politician
 * Katie Page (born 1956), CEO of Harvey Norman
 * Ernest Riordan (1901–1954), Australian politician
 * Chris Sheppard (born 1981), Australian rugby league player
 * Wayne Srhoj (born 1982), Australian footballer
 * Deon St. Mor, Australian business owner and designer
 * Owsley Stanley, (1935–2011) American counter-culture figure of the 1960s (LSD; The Grateful Dead).

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