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Stewart Park (Ithaca, New York)

Stewart Park is a municipal park operated by the City of Ithaca, New York on the southern end of Cayuga Lake, the largest of New York's Finger Lakes.

Park description
Stewart park offers space and facilities for outdoor recreation such as frisbee, tennis, basketball, paddling, and fishing. The park has a carousel that operates throughout the summer. There is an expansive, accessible playground that includes features to make it easier for children with wheelchairs or mobility aids to play, along with a splash pad fountain that runs in summer. Picnic tables and grills are spread throughout the park, and sheltered areas for picnics and large gatherings are available for rental. The wide, flat ADA compliant Cayuga Waterfront Trail runs through the park.

Fall Creek empties into Cayuga Lake through Stewart Park. Stewart Park is also the location of the Cascadilla Boat Club's boathouse, commonly called the Cascadilla Boathouse. The Fuertes Bird Sanctuary and Renwick Wildwood are popular locations for birdwatching within Stewart Park. Newman Golf Course, the City of Ithaca's municipal golf course, is technically part of Stewart Park's 177 acre.

History
Before the North American continent had been settled by Europeans, the indigenous peoples of the Cayuga Nation founded the village of Neodakheat in the area where Stewart Park is now located. The land became Military Lot 88, 600 acre, a tract of land granted to Andrew Moody after the end of the Revolutionary War. Moody sold the land to James Renwick on December 12, 1790. It remained in his family for 104 years as an undeveloped parcel of land.

In the early 1890s, 40 acre of Renwick land was purchased by the Cascadilla School to build athletic facilities. At the same time, a trolley line leading to Cayuga Lake was constructed by the Cayuga Lake Electric Railway Company, later absorbed by Ithaca Street Railway, who also set about developing an amusement park near the lake. The group of properties became known as Renwick Park and opened to the public in 1894.

Upon opening, the trolley park contained a zoo, a merry-go-round, a restaurant pavilion, and a dance pavilion, which became Ithaca's first vaudeville theater. However, in 1908, a decrease in the public's use of the railway system led to the dissolution of the Cayuga Lake Electric Railway Company; the company was replaced by the Renwick Park and Traffic Association. Trolley access to the park was completely discontinued in 1915, and the park closed.

55 acre adjacent to the park were set aside as a bird sanctuary maintained by the Cayuga Bird Club, now known as Renwick Wildwood. Another birding location around the “swan pond” near the Cascadilla Boathouse is known as the Fuertes Bird Sanctuary. It was named after famous ornithologist and Cayuga Bird Club president Louis Agassiz Fuertes upon his death in 1927.

The park land was leased to Theodore and Leopold Wharton, forming the Wharton Studio during Ithaca's brief heyday as a silent film production center from 1915 to 1919.

In 1920, Mayor Edwin C. Stewart declared during his inauguration speech that it was a "travesty" that Ithaca residents couldn't enjoy the lake without trespassing on private property. In 1921, the City of Ithaca purchased the former Renwick Park land and opened it to the public. Mayor Stewart died before the official opening of the park on July 4, 1921, leaving the city 150,000 to the city for the park. Renwick Park was renamed Stewart Park in his honor.

In 1934, the park's land was raised by several feet to reduce flooding. Although swimming had previously been allowed at the park since 1964, a prohibition against swimming has been strongly enforced. The ban came about after a boy drowned when turbid, sediment-laden water prevented lifeguards from seeing him. Conditions particular to the lake, including the quantity of sediment at the lake's bottom and the prevailing currents at the lake's southern end, cause such murky and turbid conditions to be common, necessitating the ban on swimming.

21st Century
A section of the Cayuga Waterfront Trail was completed in 2010, linking the Farmers Market at Steamboat Landing to the Visitors Center. This portion of the trail winds through Stewart Park. In 2011, the Friends of Stewart Park began a wide-ranging rehabilitation and restoration project. A new Inclusive and Accessible Playground was opened summer of 2020. A series of severe thunderstorms during the summer of 2021 caused "devastating" damage to Stewart Park and Newman Golf Course. At least a dozen trees were downed, including some of the park's willow trees. The Cayuga Waterfront Trail, playground, tennis court, sprinklers were damaged and were briefly closed for cleanup.

Historic buildings and landmarks of Stewart Park
The park was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 2023.
 * Cacadilla Boathouse - Designed by architects Clinton L. Vivian and Arthur Gibb and built starting in 1894, the building has been in near continuous use since that time and is still used today by the Cascadilla Boat Club rowing organization. The boathouse was added to the National Register of Historic Places in 1991.

 * Large Picnic Pavilion - Designed by architects Clinton L. Vivian and Arthur Gibb, apprentices to prominent Ithaca architect William Henry Miller, the Picnic Pavilion was constructed around 1895 as part of an Italianate-inspired architectural theme, with peristyle columned porch and semi-circular door and window features. Originally called the Restaurant Pavilion, the Picnic Pavilion was most recently restored in 2019. It is available for rent through the City of Ithaca.

 * Small Tea Pavilion - Designed by Clinton L. Vivian and Arthur Gibb and originally built in 1895, the Tea Pavilion once served as the welcoming point for visitors to the park, and was the last stop on the trolley ride to Renwick Park from downtown Ithaca. The open-air pavilion was moved several times within the park but landed in its current location in the 1950s when the playground and carousel were installed. By 2011 the building had fallen into disrepair. The original structure was torn down but was rebuilt to its original design. It is available for rent through the City of Ithaca.
 * Fuertes Overlook - the "Swan Pond" overlook was built by the Cayuga Bird Club in 1934 for ease of pond and bird sanctuary observation and was restored in 2017 by Friends of Stewart Park.
 * Renwick Wildwood Arch - Designed by Louis Agassiz Fuertes and constructed by the Cayuga Bird Club in 1917, this arch was made to mark the original approach to the Renwick Wildwood.
 * Carousel - Designed by the Allan Herschell Company and opened in 1952, the Stewart Park Carousel has been in continuous seasonal operation since. The carousel horses were repainted in 1986 by Trumansburg artist Annie Campbell and again in 2014-2015 by Ithaca artists Christi Sobel and Julia John. A new black metal fence was installed in 2016, and an accessible wheelchair ramp and chariot were added in 2018. In 2020, a permanent roof was installed so the carousel will no longer need to be taken down each fall, reducing wear and tear on the ride.

 * Wharton Building - Designed by Clinton L. Vivian and Arthur Gibb in 1895, this structure was originally called the Dance Pavilion. Along with hosting dances, the building was also used as a vaudeville stage and a movie theater. When the Wharton Brothers leased the park for their film Studio, this building was used to film movies and serials. Tracks to hang lights and sets can still be found in the building. Today, the building is used primarily as the home of the Ithaca Department of Works but plans to renovate the lake-facing side of the structure into the Wharton Studio Museum and Park Center are underway.

 * Water Tower - Though no longer in Stewart Park, the water tower was part of the original pavilion complex designed by Clinton L. Vivian and Arthur Gibb in 1895. Standing high above the other buildings, for trolley riders, it would have been their first glimpse of the park as they rode in. The structure was destroyed by Hurricane Hazel in 1954.
 * Bandstand - No longer in the park, the bandstand was an octagonal raised gazebo structure near the pavilions that hosted nationally known bands like Patrick (Patsy) Conway and his "Famous Ithaca Band."

Revitalization
In 2011, the Friends of Stewart Park began wide-ranging rehabilitation and restoration for Stewart Park. This effort began with the renovation of the Mayor Stewart Memorial Flagpole garden and clean up of the Picnic Pavilion and Wharton Building Since that time, Friends of Stewart Park in partnership with the City of Ithaca, have led a major revitalization effort including reconstruction of the small Tea Pavilion, restoration of the Picnic Pavilion, carousel, Fuertes swan pond overlook, roof replacements on the Wharton Building and Cascadilla Boathouse, and many smaller improvements throughout the park. Aside from restoring the past, Friends of Stewart Park is enhancing the park for the future. In 2020 the organization completed a new accessible playground. In 2021, a year-round restroom was completed. Further planned improvements include a new splash pad, added restrooms, and the creation of the Wharton Studio Museum and Park Visitor Center with a cafe.

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Lah

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 * Lah (surname)
 * Lithium aluminium hydride
 * Lah, Victoria, Australia
 * Lah, Kona, a village in Kona Department, Mouhoun Province, Burkina Faso
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Northern Acres, Gauteng

Northern Acres is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region 3.

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Noblesse in Scotland

The Scottish Noblesse is a class of aristocracy in Scotland, including both those with peerage titles as well as those without. The concept of this distinct Scottish noble class was prominently advocated for by Sir Thomas Innes of Learney during his tenure as Carrick Pursuivant of Arms and later Lord Lyon King of Arms.

In 2008, the 'noblesse' clause was discreetly removed from newly issued letters patent. Consequently, the creation of new nobles becomes impossible. Nevertheless, armigers who were already granted coats of arms prior to the deadline may retain the style.

Background
In the early 20th century, Innes of Learney put forth the belief that individuals granted arms by the Court of the Lord Lyon in Scotland effectively become 'Nobles in the Noblesse of Scotland '. This form of hereditary nobility is mostly based on Innes' interpretation of historical precedents and practices.

Innes drew on historical English heraldic traditions, arguing that just as other officers of the Crown had been delegated the power to ennoble individuals in the past, the Lord Lyon should also hold the authority to do so through the granting of coat of arms. However, Innes' position was complicated by the fact that he simultaneously opposed the direct application of English heraldic law and practice to the Scottish context.

The soundness of the basis for Innes' belief that Scottish armigers, by virtue of being granted arms, automatically attain a status of hereditary nobility has been a subject of uncertainty and debate among historians and heraldic scholars. Innes relied heavily on documenting historical English precedents to support his claims despite the fact that he sought to differentiate the Scottish heraldic system from that of England.

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User:Thepcnerd

You will find most of my articles are related to technical topics.

If you ever need any photography done for any article just leave it in my talk page, I usually check the requested pictures page often as well

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Norwood, Gauteng

Norwood is a rapidly gentrifying suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality. It borders the suburbs of Orange Grove and Houghton. It is a garden suburb, with many of its homes dating back to the 1920s and 1930s. It is also one of the more popular dining spots in the city, renowned for its "celebrated restaurants" and ethnic mix of cuisine, mainly based on Grant Avenue. Other suburbs with a similar atmosphere, popular for their streetlife and dining include Melville, Newtown, Parkhurst and Greenside. The suburb has a "distinctive cosmopolitan atmosphere", and the residents comprise a mix of cultures including Jewish, Muslim, and West African. Norwood Primary School is based in the suburb. Some of its more well-known inhabitants include the anti-apartheid activist Helen Joseph and the actor Patrick Mynhardt.

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Oaklands, Gauteng

Oaklands is an affluent suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Johannesburg Region E. It is a small suburb surrounded by the suburbs of Houghton Estate, Norwood, Orchards, The Gardens and Highlands North.

History
Oaklands came into existence in 1896. The lands owner prior to it being surveyed as a township was William Anderson Martin and purchased in 1896, consisting of 18 acres of what is now known as Oaklands and Orchards. Martin would own a large house in suburb called Avonmore a would live there until his death in 1960.

The eastern border of the suburb, bounded by Orchards is separated by a seasonal spruit (stream) that has its source in the Houghton Golf Club and with a possible further source on the ridge above Louis Botha Avenue close to Fellside. Most of the stream through the suburb is now either underground or canalized with it eventually forming up with the Orange Grove Spruit and entering the Sandspruit river.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Splank's Law

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The result of the debate was DELETE. jni 11:12, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Splank's Law
Looks like a hoax to me. CDC  (talk)  01:50, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete hoax based on Simpsons character names. Google gets zero. -Harmil 02:03, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete hoaxes. It looked like patent nonsense to me, but I can't say for sure, being in the Humanities.  CanadianCaesar 02:20, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete hoax. JamesBurns 08:27, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete hoax. the wub  "?/!"  12:04, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - Hoax A curate's egg 15:07, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Hoax, nothing makes' sense in the article. --Vizcarra 23:27, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nonsense. I would have thought this rated a Speedy Delete. ~ WCFrancis 23:37, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
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Oerder Park

Oerder Park is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region B of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

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Talk:List of municipalities of Greece

I plan to restructure and edit this page so that a connection between the larger political units and the municipal units can be seen. I will then edit and complete the charts for the linked municipal pages and ensure that they are properly sourced and linked to the main Greece page. Tim Graff 03:05, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:UEFA Women's Euro 2005

Is it just a coincidence that all of Group A have two-color flags while all of Group B have three-color ones? Hmm..... Doops | talk 01:51, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes it is ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 10:15, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

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Olivedale, Gauteng

Olivedale is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region C of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

Olivedale is a small suburb in the greater Randburg area in the City of Johannesburg. It originated as a farm, Olivedale, and the original farmhouse, along with the original farm windmill, still exists today. The windmill now forms part of the area's main nursery school.

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Category talk:Cyclists

Categorization of individual cyclists
We need to decide whether each individual cyclist is to be categorized under this general Cyclists category as well as under the appropriate nation-based cyclists category (Amercian Cyclists, etc.), or only under the appropriate nation-based cyclists category. If the latter, then there should be NO individual cyclists listed under the general Cyclists category, and each of the nation-based categories should be a direct subcategory of Cyclists. --Serge 01:51, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

This discussion should continue in the Category:Cyclists section over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Cycling here. --Serge 01:57, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Long Lake (Ontario)

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Long Lake (Ontario)
Empty article PhilipO 01:51, 13 July 2005 (UTC) PhilipO
 * Such an article is a Candidates for speedy deletion, so I've deleted it. JYolkowski // talk 01:55, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * We cannot delete something that isn't there. Delist. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 01:55, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
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Orange Grove, Gauteng

Orange Grove is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

History
The original name of Orange Grove was Lemoen Plaas, Afrikaans for Orange Farm, as the description of the area and its original use prior to development and incorporation into the city of Johannesburg.

The orange trees of what became Orange Grove were planted by J.C.Esterhusen. His daughter was married to another Viljoen whose farmhouse became the original once-famous Orange Grove Hotel, located in the suburb. The hotel was built in 1888, and now the site is the location of a petrol service station.

Orange Grove is still home to The Radium Beerhall, Johannesburg's oldest surviving bar and grillhouse.

Famous former residents include Mohandas Gandhi, who stayed at 34 Grove Road in his early years of practising law in Johannesburg.

Streetscape
The streets of the suburb are numerical, with the suffix of "street" heading west to east and "avenue" south to north. The only exceptions to this are Hope Road and Grove Road, bordering the suburb to the south.

Louis Botha Avenue, initially served as the only single, direct road between the Johannesburg CBD and Pretoria. It was principally the 'High Street' for Orange Grove. Louis Botha was also a direct link to Alexandra Township, where a large part of the work force which found employ in Orange Grove and surrounding suburbs, resided.

Communities
The surrounding suburbs are (clockwise from the north) Maryvale, Sydenham, Doornfontein 92 IR, Linksfield, Fairwood, Mountain View, Houghton Estate, Fellside, Victoria, Norwood and Orchards. There is a strong sense of community between Orange Grove and its surrounding areas. Most of the residents were blue collar citizens.

Demographics
The suburb was informally and fondly known as Little Italy during the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s. This was in part because the majority of residents in Orange Grove were primarily Italians who had immigrated from Italy in search of work during the early 1950s. Portuguese, Jewish and Afrikaans cultures were also present albeit in smaller concentrations. Despite the fact that Orange Grove was colloquially known as 'Little Italy', the mixture of these cultures provided a truly cosmopolitan, European, feel on its main thoroughfare, Louis Botha Avenue, during any day of the week. The Italian Club, an important center for the ethnic community, relocated to Bedfordview in the 1980s, marking the beginning of the decline of Orange Grove as an ethnic enclave.

Parks and greenspace
Orange Grove boasts a park which is frequented by residents from surrounding suburbs and in the past most of its residents would utilise Hoy Park Public Pools for recreation, in Sydenham. It is rare for a home to possess a pool in Orange Grove, but many more prominent dwellings in the area do have.

A popular place for children of the area to meet was Patterson Park, in front of the Norwood Police Flats. The area was previously a recreational hub, with pools, tennis courts, athletic lawns, and sporting fields. Today however the recreational facilities have been upgraded and brought into the modern era.

Crime
There was a decline in safety after 1994 as security became a problem in the area. Most of the previously manicured lawns and neat facades which were visible from the streets over low walls were replaced by high walls with electric fences, barbed wire and alarm systems. The Norwood Police Station, services the area. Most of the night clubs, cafes, restaurants and bioscopes (movie theaters) subsequently shut down.

Education
Orange Grove possesses a library and two Primary Schools, Orange Grove Primary School and Linksfield Primary School. Traditionally, residents attended one of the two Primary Schools then moved to Highlands North High School for boys and Waverly Girls' High School for girls respectively. These four schools have serviced Orange Grove for over three generations and have withstood the rigours of political and social upheaval.

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Talk:Timekeeping on Mars

Simple Mars Clock
I don't think it's appropriate to place computer code in encyclopedia articles. A better idea is to describe the algorithm such that anyone can implement it in any language they choose. It would look better and take up less space. --  B.d.mills  (T, C)
 * Could someone verify if this formula correct, I copy-paste the code to Excel and it gives me a result different from Mars24 from NASA. - Yaohua2000 21:05, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
 * The formula is correct, and I have verified it against the display in Mars24. However, the result that it generates is the MSD, Mars Sol Date, and not MTC as it is labeled. To convert the value to MTC on the current sol, paste
 * =MOD(A1,1)*24
 * into cell A2 of your spreadsheet (assuming you have pasted the original formula into cell A1). The result will be MTC in hours, which you'll have to munge appropriately to extract the minutes and seconds values. - 208.59.133.14 09:16, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Kim Stanley Robinson
Not a great fan of this writer, but didn't he steal this idea from Phillip K. Dicks' Martian Timeslip? --MacRusgail 19:07, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Preferences aside, I think "stole" is a harsh way to put it. PKD used it first, but there are only so many ways to deal with the different day - make the day longer or use the timeslip.  Regardless, Martian Time-Slip presents time in a much more fluid sense, and isn't necessarily specific to the extra 37 minutes in the day, unlike Robinson's trilogy.  Both are mentioned, although admittedly the language in the section leaves one wanting. ~ Amory talk 23:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Robinson wrote his PhD thesis on the novels of PKD, so it would be very harsh to say he stole any ideas. Any such references would almost certainly be an homage. SelfCorrection (talk) 05:56, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

year ratio
Using the numbers shown I get these rational approximations to the ratio of year-lengths: 2:1, 15:8, 32:17, 47:25, 79:42, 679:361. How did the last editor also get 62:33 and 94:50? While I'm up, does the article really need that section? —Tamfang (talk) 06:19, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Would the article lose important information if the section was removed? No. It is little more than a series of numbers that can be obtained as successive approximations of a continuing fraction. Of what use is it to the article as a whole? I don't see any. I'm inclined to delete this section. -- B.D.Mills  (T, C) 11:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I've deleted the section because it didn't add anything particularly useful to the article. -- B.D.Mills  (T, C) 11:00, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

 * I actually disagree. Much like the UTC/MTC conversion, it provides relevant numbers to the understanding of Martian time from a terran perspective, which we clearly all have.  The numbers presented in the deleted box are far more taxing to derive than the largely trivial UTC/MTC conversions.  There was no citation on the original box, but should one be found, I find it appropriate to place within the article.  Perhaps the two sections could be merged into a larger section detailing the relationship between Earth and Mars times. ~Amory (talk) 23:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Pathfinder local time

 * Of the five successful Mars landers to date, four employed variants of local mean solar time (LMST) for the lander site while the fifth (Mars Pathfinder) used local true solar time (LTST).

 * Mars Pathfinder used local apparent solar time at the landing location. Its timezone was AAT-02:13:01 ....

If Pathfinder was not on mean solar time, its "timezone" should vary by 90 minutes. Perhaps this means to say that its clock was set to LTST on the day of landing, and then used mean time with respect to that origin? —Tamfang (talk) 20:52, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

 * Oops, no, Airy Apparent Time would likewise vary from mean time. —Tamfang (talk) 19:25, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Calendar
"For similar reasons, if it is ever necessary to schedule and co-ordinate activities on a large scale across the surface of Mars it would be necessary to agree on a calendar."

Says who? -Sanddef

MTC

 * MTC = (seconds since 2000-01-06 00:00:00 UTC)×(86400/88775.244)) + (44795.9998 * 86400)

I wonder why it's given in that form rather than with one operation fewer: 86400×(44795.9998 + (seconds since 2000-01-06 00:00:00 UTC)/88775.244). —Tamfang (talk) 04:40, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Formula to convert MJD/UTC to MSD/MTC

 * Universal Time Coordinated
 * UTC = (MJD mod 86400) * 24

MJD is a count of (Earth) days. How does MJD mod 86400 (the number of seconds in a day) make any sense at all? —Tamfang (talk) 22:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

"planetocentric longitude"
The article states: ''Note that the modern standard for measuring longitude on Mars is "planetocentric longitude", which is measured from 0°–360° East and measures angles from the center of Mars. The older "planetographic longitude" was measured from 0°–360° West and used coordinates mapped onto the surface.[2]''

I can't see a real difference between longitude measured on the surface (which should mean: along the equator) and longitude measured as angles from the center because I suppose that also on mars the equator is very near to a circle whose center coincides with the center of mass of the planet. However, since (like earth) Mars is not a sphere but nearly spheroid, - like on earh - there is a real difference between planetographic and planetocentric latitude. I think this is also what the source cited tells us:

''Originally, a system with ‘planetographic’ latitude and longitude increasing to the west was developed to be used with the Viking observations. The US Geological Survey and other organisations then adopted a system with ‘planetocentric’ latitude and longitude increasing to the east for making future Mars maps and imagery. Both systems were approved for use on Mars by the International Astronomical Union in 2000.

(The ‘planetocentric’ system uses co-ordinates derived from the angle measured from the equator to a point on the surface at the centre of the planet, whereas the ‘planetographic’ system uses co-ordinates which are mapped on the surface.) ''

Concerning latitude, this text distinguishes between "planetographic" and "planetocentric", whereas for longitude, it distinguishes between "increasing to the west" and "increasing to the east".--Trigamma (talk) 18:39, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Either way, what does "coordinates mapped onto the surface" mean? Wouldn't an assignment of planetocentric coords to a surface feature constitute a mapping to the surface?  The obvious alternative to the planetocentric vector is the local gravity vector, but this would be a strange way to say that. —Tamfang (talk) 18:32, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Conversion factor of 1.0274912510?
The first paragraph of the Time of day section includes "This yields a conversion factor of 1.0274912510 days/sol."

I can't replicate this using the numbers stated in the same paragraph.
 * For a sidereal day the numbers are 88,642.663 seconds for Mars and 86,164.0916 seconds for Earth resulting in a ratio of 1.0287657115...
 * For a solar day the numbers are 88,775.24409 seconds for Mars and 86,400.002 seconds for Earth resulting in a ratio of 1.0274912273...

The math using the solar day is closer to what the article reports and so here they are side by side:
 * 1.0274912510 number reported in the article's Time of day section
 * 1.0274912273 calculated from 88,775.24409 divided by 86,400.002
 * 1.02749125 from later in the article in the Sols section

I have set up a Google Sheet at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YncLGxJWq2rLDT0w62FNKY4zW5MCVENIJBHK101eTSY/edit?usp=sharing that shows my math.

Why am I getting 1.0274912273 when the article shows 1.0274912510? --Marc Kupper|talk 19:16, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

 * The figure $86,400.002$ is an average over the last 50 years. The actual value right now is closer to $86,400.001$ and continuously fluctuating. According to the article Day, "A day of exactly $86,400$ SI seconds is the base unit of time in astronomy". And indeed, the number reported in the article is $88,775.244$/$86,400$ rounded to 10 decimals.
 * BTW, the NASA page Mars24 Algorithm and Worked Examples uses the slightly larger conversion factor 1.0274912517, which implies.
 * — Edgar.bonet (talk) 16:01, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Mars Time /Earth time conversion
I'm not good enough to do this myself, so I don't, but reading over Mars Exploration articles that hop around with ambiguous time frames (Example: The rover has been on Mars for four years at this point - is that Earth years or Martian years?), we really could use a converter template that can take Earth time and convert it into Mars time and state that it's mars time. Like something where you can put in Earth notation   and get it to spit out "2 Martian years and 78 sols" on the page.

Yes, I know it's like going to the auto industry and saying "Hey, let's make a car that gets 200 miles to the gallon" - it's easy to say, and sounds simple; but it isn't - but I'm just putting the idea out there in case it tickles the right person's brain.--Varkman (talk) 10:23, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * That's actually a really good idea. (I wish I'd thought of it. :(p ) It could also apply to other planets. Why don't you post the suggestion at template talk? (TBH, IDK where you find that... : Maybe somebody can whip something up.  TREKphiler   any time you're ready, Uhura  03:01, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It's at WT:WPT, should you want to cross-post. Primefac (talk) 03:14, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thx, Primefac. (You've just made my posts at the Mars & Solar System projects moot, curse you. ;p )  TREKphiler   any time you're ready, Uhura  06:05, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

 * Not so sure that's a good idea. Up to now, there are few instances where a Martian year or a Venusian year are stipulated, and when they are used, the term "year(s)" is disambiguated with the planetary adjective.  In planetary articles where the term "year(s)" is used, it is understood to mean "Earth years" unless otherwise stipulated/described. Happy New Year!  Paine   06:36, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

 * Sounds like a good idea for general template that takes two planets, and converts years and days. Though if it converts both years and days together, it'd probably need to be written in LUA. You can always try to request that convert be adjusted to add such capabilities to its suite. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 09:53, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

 * Agree with Paine. And even if a conversion is desired for some reason, something like “about 2.1 Martian years” would likely be more useful than “2 Martian years and 78 sols”. — Edgar.bonet (talk) 10:53, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Arean Time Zone System
I googled "Central Oxian Time" and got exactly one result, this article. I don't think this section is properly sourced, and may be invented out of whole cloth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dthomas218 (talk • contribs) 20:10, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

 * Confirmed. I removed the section. — Edgar.bonet (talk) 10:54, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Meaning of sol
The following was left on my talk page by 5.228.254.248. I am moving it here, as it is more appropriate:

 * A: The term sol is used by planetary astronomers to refer to the duration of a solar day
 * B: The term sol is used by planetary astronomers to refer to the duration of a solar day on Mars
 * The text above is a comparison of two contested edits on the page Timekeeping on Mars.
 * B causes confusion, and is inaccurate, as solar day or Sol will be used for other planets and not just the first that we visit.
 * A is concise clear, and links to an intermediary article for further reading.

By writing A, you are basically claiming that the term sol is commonly used for the duration of a solar day on any planet. If you have reliable sources substantiating this claim, then it's fine to keep it. However, currently, the sentence has only a reference to a page on NASA's web site showing a picture by Opportunity with the following caption (emphasis mine):

 * NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity used its navigation camera to take the images combined into this stereo view of the rover's surroundings on the 959th sol, or Martian day, of its surface mission (Oct. 5, 2006).

Here NASA is writing quite clearly that by sol they mean Martian day. Whether or not the term can be applied to other planets is not apparent in this source and, I would say, is not really relevant to the current article.

In your comment above, you added a wikilink to Sol. This is a disambiguation page. Among the many other definitions, it gives “the duration of a solar day on Mars”. No mention about sol meaning solar day in general.

Thus, either you provide a reliable source to be quoted as a reference for A (sol = solar day in general), or we keep B (sol = solar day on Mars), which is consistent with the source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edgar.bonet (talk • contribs) 13:11, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

 * I have another question regarding how one defines a "sol."

 * Namely, is it a measure a sidereal Mars day (the time lapse between two consecutive transits of the Sun through the first point of Aries—from the Martian frame-of-reference)?

 * Or is it a (slightly longer) tropical Mars day—the time lapse between two consecutive Martian sunrises?

 * Pine (talk) 11:39, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Duration of hours, minutes, and seconds
The article states that hours and minutes are 2.7% longer on mars, but id does not extend this to seconds, although I believe that a longer second is also used in "Mars Time". Now the second is a SI unit that should not really be hampered with - it has a clear and precise definition, while hour and minute are not SI units. So while one could define a "Mars hour", a "Mars second" is in conflict with the SI. I am pretty sure that longer seconds are used in mars mission (since the Mars24 algorithm of NASA computes it this way), and I undertand that it is close to trivial to make a mechanical clock run 2.7% slower, as a realization of a Mars Clock on Earth. However, I believe that it should at least be mentioned, if not discussed, that Mars time conflicts with the SI definition of the second.129.247.247.239 (talk) 14:11, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * There is no standard, only proposals, for timekeeping on Mars, something the article makes this pretty clear. Discussions of units of time greater than seconds are clearly relative to the rotational period and dates and seasons relative to the orbital period (specifically the solar longitude). I read the 2.7% figure as an innocent approximation which nicely summarizes the longer sidereal period.  It's also referencing a convention used by spacecraft lander projects", makes no claim to be standard so I'm not seeing a conflict with SI.  --MadeYourReadThis (talk) 15:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Local Mean Solar time
The raw images of Perseverance are given with Local Mean Solar time. I assume that midnight is at 0:00. Is noon at 12:19:48 or at 12:00 with a stretched second, minute or hour length? I asked Nasa but they did not answer. Schrauber5 (talk) 09:17, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

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Osummit

Osummit is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region B of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

History
The suburb is situated on part of an old Witwatersrand farm called Driefontein. It was established on 5 June 1957.

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Parkmore

Parkmore is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region B of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

History
It was established as a suburb in 1907 and takes its name from two farms, Hurl Park and Benmore Farm.

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Parkwood, Johannesburg

Parkwood is a suburb of Randburg, South Africa. It is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

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Percelia Estate

Percelia Estate is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

History
The suburb is situated on part of an old Witwatersrand farm called Klipfontein. It became a suburb on 14 September 1938. It takes its name from the first names from the land owners Percy Michels and Elias Sandler.

Landmarks
One famous landmark in Percelia Estate is the AJ Julia Street Park. This park offers a serene retreat for locals and visitors alike, with lush greenery and recreational facilities. View AJ Julia Street Park on Google Maps.

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Petervale

Petervale is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It was located in Region 3 of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

Petervale is located next to the N1 highway and is bounded by the suburbs of Rivonia, Bryanston and Paulshof. It is further close to Sunninghill and Morningside Manor. In Petervale there is a small shopping centre and a clinic, a block of flats, a bakery, a garage (petrol station), a laundromat, a post-office, a DVD rental franchise outlet. There is also a large field that forms part of the Region 3 green belt. The field is currently earmarked for residential development in 2007.

Petervale can be reached by travelling on the N1 highway (South or North) and taking the Rivonia offramp. Drive north on Rivonia Road and turn left into Witkoppen Road. Drive past the Cambridge office park and turn left into Cambridge Road. Follow it over the highway into Petervale.

From Petervale, Rivonia and Bryanston can be reached by following Twelfth Avenue.

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President Ridge

President Ridge is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region 3.

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Talk:Latent Image (Star Trek: Voyager)

July 2005
This article makes no sense. It is poorley written, and doesn'e even specify what program it came from. (7/12/05) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doughboy (talk • contribs) 01:59, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Use the four tildes bra. The article actually states that it is from a Star Trek:Voyager episode. However, you are correct in that it is poorly written. Dessydes 01:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Vita Nuova Translation?
As best I can tell the Dante quote the Doctor used in this episode is not from the popular translations of La Vita Nuova. Does anyone know if the writing staff customized the quote so it would work better in the episode or if there is a tranlation of La Vita Nuova that matches this line? I prefer it over the two widely-printed versions available. -(11/06/2006) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.183.160.50 (talk • contribs) 06:25, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Somebody put in a sentence recently indicating the writing staff mistranslated it, but didn't reference which English translation they're using as the source. I've put up a for now. Wl219 13:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:ST-VOY Latent Image.jpg
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As an episode summary page goes, this one is really WITHOUT major issue
This episode summary is structured like so many of the others for the ST Voyager series. I am deleting the "multiple issues" template messages.

Anyone curious as to any further justification need look no further than any of the other episode summary pages for Star Trek Voyager episodes. Shoot, just click on the previous or subsequent Season 5 episode summaries; this one looks a whole lot like those!

 * "This article relies too much on references to primary sources. (April 2011)- Summaries of episodes of minor TV shows can only really be spruced up by information from primary sources. It's not as if courses or analytical journal entries or studies are taught/funded to look at them from a secondary distance.
 * This article needs additional citations for verification. (April 2013)- There are only so many things that can be cited for verification when it comes to a 90s TV drama.
 * This article consists almost entirely of a plot summary. It should be expanded to provide more balanced coverage that includes real-world context. (July 2013)"- A page dedicated to one episode is almost entirely a plot summary? No way! How dare that page mainly summarize the episode when...that's it main purpose?

- Xanderox (talk) 20:53, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

August 2021
Kim was shot second; therefore he had the better chance for survival. Otherwise his program might have chosen Jetal "women and children first". Drsruli (talk) 14:54, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

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Upper ten thousand

Upper Ten Thousand, or simply, The Upper Ten, is a 19th-century phrase referring to the wealthiest 10,000 residents of New York City. The phrase was coined in 1844 by American poet and author Nathaniel Parker Willis. Soon, the term came to be used to describe the upper circles not only of New York, but also those of other major cities.

Usages
In 1852, Charles Astor Bristed published a collection of sketches on New York Society entitled "The Upper Ten Thousand" in Fraser Magazine. In 1854, George Lippard serialized his book New York: Its Upper Ten and Lower Million. The phrase also appeared in British fiction in The Adventures of Philip (1861–62) by William Thackeray, whose eponymous hero contributed weekly to a fashionable New York journal entitled The Gazette of the Upper Ten Thousand. The general acceptance of the term seems to be attested by its use in the title of Edward Abbott's 1864 cookery book, The English and Australian Cookery Book: Cookery for the Many as Well as the "Upper Ten Thousand".

In 1875, both Adam Bissett Thom and Kelly's Directory published books entitled The Upper Ten Thousand, which listed members of the aristocracy, the gentry, officers in the British Army and Navy, members of Parliament, colonial administrators, and members of the Church of England. The usage of this term was a response to the broadening of the British ruling class which had been caused by the Industrial Revolution.

Most of the people listed in Kelly's Handbook to the Upper Ten Thousand were among the 30,000 descendants of Edward III, King of England, tabulated in the Marquis of Ruvigny and Raineval's Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal. Most also appeared in Walford's County Families and Burke's Landed Gentry.

Adolf Hitler referred to Franklin D. Roosevelt as being in the Upper Ten Thousand in his 1941 speech declaring war against the United States, while juxtaposing himself as "[sharing his] fate with millions of others."

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Raedene Estate

Raedene Estate is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is found just north of Sydenham. It is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

History
The suburb is situated on part of an old Witwatersrand farm called Klipfontein. Named after the land owner Rae Sandler and dene meaning a valley, it became a suburb on 13 February 1935.

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Randpark

Randpark is a suburb of Randburg, South Africa. It is located in the northern suburbs of the City of Johannesburg.

Randpark is a well established area that is quiet and forms part of an area with road closure for security reasons. It is bordered by several other suburbs including Windsor Glen, Robin Hills, Malanshof and Fontainebleau. It is located in the north-west of Johannesburg within the boundary of the N1 highway.

The suburb is residential, It is well planned and forms part of Johannesburg's sizable man-made forest. It is also the location of the Randpark Golf Club which adds to the beauty of this area. It is proximate to the city centre, Sandton and the Randburg CBD and makes it a convenient area to live in.

The area is serviced by one highway, namely the N1 Western Bypass, which connects the vicinity to Sandton and Pretoria to the north and to Roodepoort and Soweto to the south. Major arterial routes include Republic Road and Malibongwe Drive (R512).

The closest shopping mall from the Randpark area is the Cresta shopping mall which is located on Republic Rd approx 3 kilometers from Randpark.

Randpark has no schools within its boundaries but there are many schools within surrounding areas including, Robin Hills Primary, Randpark Ridge High, Fontainebleau Laerskool and Randburg Hoërskool.

The only public transport from the area is buses and mini taxis.

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Raumarais Park

Raumarais Park is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. The suburb lies north of Bramley. It is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

History
The suburb is situated on part of an old Witwatersrand farm called Syferfontein. It is named after the land owner Magdelena Johanna Rautenbach née Marais. It became a suburb on 30 July 1947.

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User:Cjpuffin/Talk archive

Old conversations...

Assistance sought: correct spellings / grammer
I understand from your User Page that you like to correct spelling mistakes and so on in wiki articles. You have corrected one of my articles Motonori Kabayama, which I had just done - request for this article had appeared on the Community portal. In case, you find time, I would request you to please correct grammer / spellings / syntax, etc. of (or in?) some of articles, which I have recently edited -  Mahabodhi Temple, Bodh Gaya. Now that I know your "speciality" of your school time (copy-editing), I will continue to come to you. Thanks ... byee ...--Bhadani 14:51, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sure! I'll get right on it. Cjpuffin 20:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Nice work, thanks. I had made Buddha "wondering" at Bodh Gaya and now I am wondering at your abilities. I will continue to seek you assistance. Thanks again. --Bhadani 03:14, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

My pleasure! I'll do Bodh Gaya soon. I already looked briefly at it, I don't think it needs too much editing.Cjpuffin 03:43, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you for copyediting Bodh Gaya - I am getting the enlightenment.--Bhadani 18:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Punctuation Project
Hello Cjpuffin. Brequinda here. I notice we are both in the Punctuation Project. You recently fixed some dots in the Loughborough article, but you didn't touch the very first paragraph, which is a redirect advice statement. In general, should we leave these alone, do you think, or treat them like any other English sentence and finish them off with a full stop, or, where you come from, a period? I have assumed we should and added one. Let me know what you think! Brequinda 30 June 2005 15:34 (UTC)

Yes, I think they should also contain ending periods. Thanks for catching that. However, you put that period outside the }} on the header, which put the period down a few lines, not on the end of the sentence. It is now fixed. :) Cjpuffin 30 June 2005 23:13 (UTC)

Blimey this WikiPedia is subtle. Brequinda 1 July 2005 09:05 (UTC)

Nice work
Good job rewriting Free Internet Chess Server! BTW, you may want to check out WikiProject Chess. — Bcat (talk | email) 8 July 2005 17:01 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I don't think it's anywhere near complete yet, but I wanted to get something down that was better than the existing article (sic), and provide some fodder for others to work with. Please dive in, if you like.

Chess Wikiportal
Sure, I'd like help with whatever you feel like improving. The portal needs a lot of work. — Bcat (talk | email) 19:50, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi there. I'd just like to let you know that when editing a box portal, the text for the box doesn't need to go on the main page. Of course it does work that way, but the box portal is set up to make the main page as clean as possible. The text should go on a sub page (which are the red links you see when the portal is first made (example Wikiportal/Chess/Things you can do). I've done a small edit which you can see here that shows how the portal page looks the same as before when viewed, but the text is located elsewhere. Talk to me if you have any questions, and I'm now doublechecking the instructions at Trevor macinnis 01:13, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I fixed it all. Sorry 'bout that. Cjpuffin 01:50, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

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Riepen Park

Riepen Park is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region F of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality. The street postal code is 2196.

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Riviera, Gauteng

Riviera is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

History
The suburb is situated on part of an old Witwatersrand farm called Braamfontein. It would be proclaimed as a suburb on 31 July 1903 as is named after the French or Italian Riviera.

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Rivonia

Rivonia is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa in the Sandton area. It is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality. Rivonia is one of the most affluent residential and business suburbs of Johannesburg, and regarded as the hub of upstart and established I.T. companies. The main retail thoroughfare in the area, Rivonia Boulevard, is the location of several shopping complexes as well as many other shops and restaurants. The area known as Rivonia includes the original township of Edenburg, Edenburg Extension 1, and 19 smaller extensions designated 'Rivonia Extension ...', numbered from 0 to 25. There is no designated township (in the legal sense) called Rivonia. The post code for Rivonia is 2128.

History
Rivonia lies between the Braamfontein Spruit and the Sandspruit, and was the location of Liliesleaf Farm (-26.04333°N, 28.05417°W), where in 1963 many of the accused in the Rivonia Treason Trial were arrested. The earliest public transport into Johannesburg was by donkey cart, later by bus.

A Carmelite Convent, accommodating Discalced Carmelite Nuns, sat in the centre of the village until displaced by commercial pressures. (They moved to Benoni.) In a commemorative move, the large shopping centre first built on the site was named The Cloisters. The earlier village lay on the direct path of access along Rivonia Road to the south to the new 'concrete' highway, with a nasty dogleg in the road at 12th Avenue. When it was decided to redesign and improve Rivonia Road through to the highway, the bowling greens and tennis courts of the Rivonia Recreation Club were in the way, and the Club relocated to a handsome new site in Achter Road in Paulshof, leaving only the Rivonia Hall and Library on the original site. Rivonia Produce, a landmark and long established family business, supplying inter alia hay to the many local horse owners, was also forced to move from the dogleg on 12th Avenue to a new building on 11th Avenue. It has since been swallowed into a national hardware chain and disappeared.

Economy
Hewlett-Packard's main Southern Africa and South Africa office and the registered office of Fujitsu in South Africa are in Rivonia. Before Rivonia was incorporated into the new town of Sandton, along with Bryanston, Sandown and Morningside, it was administered by the Peri-Urban Areas Health Board.

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Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Moriori

Moriori
Final (19/1/0) ending 02:03 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Moriori is closing in on 2500 edits since late 2003 over a wide range of topics (many of them related to New Zealand, but everything from Extraterrestrial life to U-Boats), and nicely divided between article, talk and wiki (see here). A fair number of the recent edits have been minor, but there are enough larger edits, too. A regular attender at VFD, a reverter of vandalism, and in general terms “one of the good guys”. It’s about time we had more tangata whenua as admins, too! Grutness...  wha?  02:04, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:

 * Thanks Grutness, yes, I accept the nomination. I have an unexpected problem I need to pay attention to right now, so it will be 14 or so hours before I can get to the generic interview queries. It is 7.56pm (Weds) where I am at the moment. Cheers. Moriori 07:57, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

Support
 * 1) Support. I've seen Moriori's edits here ever since I got involved and they've always been good.-gadfium 02:11, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Support. Seems to be a good editor and I trust the judgement of the nominator. --Sn0wflake 02:43, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) A definite support for this candidate. He has been here for over one and a half years, which is more than plenty of time for me to consider this contributor "mature."  Denelson83  04:30, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Support. 2500 edits over ~18 months seems slightly slim to me, but the quality of those edits more than makes up for any such concerns, IMO. – Seancdaug 04:51, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Support. A good well rounded editor. (Donovan|Geocachernemesis|Interact) 05:16, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Support Half heartedly (I'm just kidding). I think Moriori had done a good job at making wikipedia a high quality encyclopedia. And Moriori does NOT seem like a person who will abuse his/hers position once an administrator (unsigned by User:Exir Kamalabadi)
 * 7) Support Good stuff. Onco_p53 12:07, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 8) El_C 23:42, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 9) Support and good work on Image:Tui_in_flax.jpg Triddle 01:16, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * 10) Support; a very fine candidate indeed. Antandrus (talk) 01:24, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 11) (slaps head) I nominated him, then forgot to vote! Support! Grutness...  wha?  04:42, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 12) Strong support from an editor across "The Ditch" --Cyberjunkie | Talk 05:48, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 13) Support, although why a user has made so few "nicely balanced" edits makes him a good candidate is beyond me. I think mine are "nicely balanced" as well, and nobody's bothered to use it as a rationale to nominate me for adminship.  My support vote is based entirely upon quality of edits and the fact that this user has not become belligerantly entangled in disputes.  (Note: I'm currently entangled in a rather massive dispute, although I hope it's not as a belligerant...)  Tomer TALK  07:21, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I should explain my comment - what I mean was that Moriori has done edits to the article space, user talk, wiki-space, categories, templates, and in doing so has interacted with a lot of other users.... A lot of admin candidates don't have such a rounded view of all facets of Wiki operation. Grutness...  wha?
 * And I? Tomer TALK 08:51, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Pcb21| Pete 07:35, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) M e r o v i n g i a n  (t) (c) 06:45, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Cool. JuntungWu 04:08, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Support - No evidence that this user would go on a vandalism or image deletion spree.  Guettarda 05:13, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Support older≠wiser 21:36, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) SupportStirling Newberry - 05:23, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 22:12, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * And why do you oppose, Boothy443? Denelson83  23:15, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * See comment under Triddle's RFA below. Grutness...  wha?  01:09, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Neutral

Comments
 * I would like to see some answers to the questions below. Triddle 16:59, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
 * 1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? (Please read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.)
 * A. I am particularly interested in fighting the vandals, and taking part in general admin chores. I don't know it all, but have read the recommended items about deletion policy/process etc.
 * 2. Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
 * A. I wouldn't claim standouts, but some I was largely responsible for are Pania, Kerikeri, Bob Charles and Mount Taranaki legend etc. I have provided many of my own images to illustrate articles. The one at Tui was particularly rewarding, because it is extremely difficult to get the right light to show the colours of the bird, (most people believe it is a jet black colour).
 * 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
 * A. Originally not very well, but one learns by experience. Very little fazes me now, but when I see fact deliberately replaced by unsubstantiated inference, I will fight the good fight for the integrity of Wikipedia, as I trust all admins would.


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A Deeper Kind of Slumber

A Deeper Kind of Slumber is the fifth studio album from Swedish band Tiamat. Featuring female background vocals by Birgit Zacher (Moonspell, Angel Dust) and experimentation with a variety of influences, the album marked the group's first complete withdrawal from both death metal and conventional heavy metal, following their 1994 release, Wildhoney. It was also the first production after their relocation to Germany, and was written almost entirely by founder/lead songwriter Johan Edlund. Much of the music had reflected on Edlund's personal relationship with drugs, creative differences within the band as well as an interpersonal relationship.

Tiamat

 * Johan Edlund – vocals, rhythm guitar, keyboards, theremin, co-production
 * Thomas Petersson – electric and acoustic guitars
 * Anders Iwers – bass guitar
 * Lars Sköld – drums

Additional personnel

 * The Inchtabokatables – violin, cello
 * Sami Yli-Sirniö – sitar
 * Ertugrul Coruk – flute
 * Anke Eilhardt – Oboe
 * Birgit Zacher – additional vocals
 * Dirk Draeger – keyboards, engineering, production
 * Siggi Bemm – engineering, mixing, mastering

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Infobox fix
I noticed the infobox code wasn't closed correctly, I've corrected that 31.192.102.58 (talk) 12:48, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Well, it still isn't right, and hasn't been for some time 174.73.22.113 (talk) 21:20, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

VYBZ KARTEL BIRTH DATE IS INCORRECT
vybz kartel started to attend calabar high school in 1987 in grade 7 at the age of 12. Also the all music source is incorrect (just in case you didnt know all music is a bio database that is compiled from people sending in information to them, so its not all that perfect). I wish I could contact Cliff Hughes (owner of this station http://www.nationwidenewsnetwork.com/) to get the video interview where kartel stated his age to Emily Crooks (that he was born january 1975). If any of you dedicated wiki workers/fans could do that for me I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.27.16.115 (talk) 17:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

 * What you say may be correct, but Wikipedia works to what can be verified, not what is true. And what you say cannot be verified without a cite.  I've reverted your change for the moment.  Feel free to change it back once you have a cite to backup your statement.  -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 21:00, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

In depth
Just wanted to say that this is the best reggae-artist page on Wiki I've seen so far. :)
 * It certainly is in depth! I'm not sure who put the clean-up tag on it but I wish they'd give more info! Reggaedelgado 22:04, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Great Page!!
I love the page and I think that the clean up tag is uncalled for. However, I did notice a mistake at the bottom of the page in the "international collaborations" section. I own the CD "Fire and Glory" by Kardinal Offishall and the correct name of the song that Vybz Kartel appears on is "E.G.G. (Everybody Gone Gangsta)" not "Everybody Gangsta" - J Dogg

well....consitering that bobby put him on, im surprised that he is not credited, vybz has wild tapes out with him, and real need to respect the real, not fakes like kartel. from tapes that came out before 97. ask about it. know the real history.

this page isn't that great. there isn;t that many sources, or proper facts.198.102.103.18 00:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No sources (not a single one for this massive article!), obviously mostly written by fans (no neutral point of view), unencyclopedic writing style. A clean up tag is not "uncalled for" here. #29(talk) 22:53, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I added "unsourced" and "inappropriate tone" tags. Feel free to remove them after the problems have been solved.

 * Almost the whole article is written like a fan page... stuff like
 * has got to go. The part where lyrics by Kartel and Assassin are quoted either has to be explainer or it's gotta go too. If I would just remove whats not written in an adequate style and/or unsourced, I'm afraid nothing would be left of this article. (On a side note, fair use for album covers does only apply on articles on the album, not like used here.) #29(talk) 23:13, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Controversy: Anti-gay lyrics
Someone might want to add a section on the controversy over some of his lyrics where he endorses killings gays and lesbians. The quote below was taken from this website: http://www.petertatchell.net/popmusic/mobos2004.htm "Vybz Kartel sings “lesbians and queers must be assassinated” in his song Bedroom Slaughteration. Another track, Guns Like Mine, boasts that he “puts a bullet in a queer’s spine”."Carniv 19:46, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

 * I don't think this controversy needs to be mentioned in this article. Vybz Kartel's situation isn't nearly as notable as Shabba Ranks' or Beenie Man's. I doubt that adding this information will improve the article; it's already long enough. Blackjays1 12:08, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

 * it shoulda mention yes. battyman an dem fren dem fi get wah bullet. stay deh tink we a ramp inna jamaica boy violate an a ak straight. u done know an a waan tell unu suppn to although im lef alliance he was alliance bred u done know. an there was a fight uppa bembe mi tink where im an movado entorage did a fight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Medianoche (talk • contribs) 03:23, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Wow, it's hard to be that unintelligible. 62.49.219.171 (talk) 10:42, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

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 * This controversy should definitely be mentioned. Vybz Kartel is listed on www.stopmurdermusic.ch and www.soulrebels.org/dancehall.htm with 11 "battyman tunes":
 * Batty Bwoy Termination
 * Warn Dem Counteraction
 * Batty Bwoy Fi Dead
 * Faggot Correction
 * No Apology
 * No Batty
 * Tek Gunshot "Mek mi murda a faggot fi free"
 * Bedroom Slaughteration "Doh bow cat, sodomite, batty man fi get assassination? (Yeah)"
 * Gold Mine Medley
 * Gunz like mine "Kartel buss one inna batty bwoy spine"
 * Pussy Jaw "Faggot fi get copper to di heart"
 * I disagree; the songs in question have not become a widespread controversy (as with Buju Banton), nor have they resulted in a significant amount of concert cancellations, as with other dancehall artists. Adding this subject to the article would not be biographical, and would violate the WP policy on original research, as it would only serve to further the agenda of the websites mentioned above.--Chimino (talk) 01:54, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

It is factual. Vybez is part of dancehall slackness movement that promotes hate to gays (and not only that - similar "values") and even it has not become media attractive it is contraversial.

I would like to point that Vybez is no reggae artist - dancehall mightbe considered as offspring generally (digital relation to early dancehall reggae), but when it comes to message, its more similar to gangsta rap in its worst form. Rasvoja (talk) 19:53, 15 June 2015 (UTC) it comes to message, its more similar

Cleanup
While it is great that the article is in depth, it does seem somewhat subjective due to the lack of sources and unbalanced due to the focus on feuding rather than music. It need citations per Verifiability and Cite sources. It would be great if his style could be described, possibly through cited quotes. Hyacinth (talk) 23:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've removed a large part of the uncited material on this article. It's a pity, as the writer appears to have known a great deal.  But Wikipedia does not permit original material that isn't reported elsewhere.  If anyone can get some good sources for this material it can go back in.   There was also a great deal of non-neutral praise that had to go.  Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral. The article still needs references, and lots of them, to verify most of what it says. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 12:38, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Why
Why did they take down the portmore empire section. 72.27.148.66 (talk) 01:00, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Condoms
Vybz Kaetel has his own brand of condoms called 'DAGGERING'.

Rum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vybz also has his own rum called "vybz rum" which most Canadian want to buy, but it only sells in Jamacia. The vybz rum is coming off selves like crazy. big up to addi teacha aka vybz kartel.

Free world boss Lil trubel (talk) 23:18, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Who Wrote this?
Seriously, its full of pot holes and dead ends. I have, myself tried to clean it up; but tis hard when I know not much on VYBZ. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.69.5.90 (talk) 12:18, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Quality
Who wrote this stultifying propaganda? The whole thing reads like promotional material for Kartel, putting him on a pedestal and ignoring his misdemeanours. For instance, why is there hardly any information regarding the controversy over his allegedly homophobic lyrics, and why have the accusations of misogyny made against him been eschewed altogether? Surely Wikipedia should be an objective source of information, not a tool for asserting your own agenda. And as if that wasn't bad enough, the article is also very poorly written, with little attention paid to details like grammar and punctuation. Come on, people, surely were all capable of producing better material than this garbage. I've tried cleaning it up myself, but I sometimes feel as though that's just too much of a gargantuan task. --Heslopian (talk) 01:32, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

everybody has their own view but look at it this way the man ting a fi him ting.***sign**simple the up coming artist.***** —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.183.1.211 (talk) 03:23, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Reliable sources
Hi, I just cleaned up the external links section of this article in accordance with our guidelines and there were a few reliable sources in there which could be used to build up the article if anybody wants to. I've listed them below.
 * War again? Mavado, Kartel feud intensifies
 * Kartel reveals life story
 * Vybz Kartel, one of the baddest djs!
 * Stop Order on 'Rampin Shop' - Ne-Yo's publishing company writes Kartel
 * Kartel pleads against ban
 * Vybz Katel VS Bounty Killer - The summer war
 *  Them From  Space  23:12, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The article does need some work, including updates for the past year. The current links also need to be referenced correctly (rather than bare URLs). I'll try to make it my next project.--Chimino (talk) 18:11, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Wanted in the Christopher "Dudus" Coke investigation...
Vybes Kartel is being sought by the JA police as a "major person of interest" in the Coke extradition case.

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Vybz-Kartel-still-at-large- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.20.11.116 (talk) 19:41, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

IMAGE
sorry for ruining the page, but i tried to add a picture for vybz kartel, so if someone could kindly sort that out i would be very grateful. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.71.120.55 (talk) 16:59, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

YouTube, Amazon, etc
Just a reminder YouTube and Amazon are not proper links for citation. That includes video links to sites such as irishandchin.com. Citations must be verifiable, written sources. Links to blogs are not the greatest sources, either, but still preferable to YouTube. Thanks --Chimino (talk) 03:15, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

4 awards at the 2011 eme awards
1)best dj of the year(male) 2)song of the year(dancehall) 3)Album of the year 4)collabo of the year(local) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikireadernow (talk • contribs) 22:54, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

File:Vybz Kartel.jpg Nominated for Deletion

 * You guys really need to stop putting up non-free images of Kartel every week on this page. Basically if you didn't take it yourself and release it to the web as a free image, you can't use it here.--Chimino (talk) 04:25, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

TEACHAS PET
There should be a section on the Internationally renown hit TV Show TEACHAS PET!!! FIX NOW!!! DiTeacha need this page fix up now!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.45.108.198 (talk) 16:52, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Personal life
I like Kartel but I really don't know much about his personal life, maybe someone can help.DJ Arafat (talk) 14:09, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Lizard or Lizzard?
Clive 'Lizard' Williams is referred to .... but spelt differently with two 'z's in the final paragraph. Which is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.153.7.193 (talk) 15:32, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

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Chris Miller

Chris or Christopher Miller may refer to:

Arts and entertainment

 * Chris Miller (writer) (born 1942), American comedy author and screenwriter
 * Chris Miller (animator) (born 1968), American voice actor and director
 * Christopher Miller (filmmaker) (born 1975), American filmmaker
 * Chris J. Miller (born 1983), American actor, writer, director and composer in horror and other genres
 * YC (rapper) (Christopher Miller, born 1985), American rapper
 * Chris Miller, English lead guitarist in the rock band You Me at Six

Sports

 * Chris Miller (quarterback) (born 1965), American football coach and former NFL quarterback
 * Chris Miller (wide receiver) (born 1973), American football player
 * Chris Miller (cricketer), New Zealand cricketer
 * Chris Miller (racing driver) (born 1989), American racing driver

Other

 * Christopher J. Miller (1916–?), English academic, head of The Doon School 1966 to 1970
 * Chris Miller (politician) (born 1954), American farmer and politician in Illinois
 * Christopher C. Miller (born 1965), American politician, former acting Secretary of Defense
 * Chris Miller, economic historian, author of Chip War: The Fight for the World's Most Critical Technology (2022)

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Marcelo Fernan Bridge

Marcelo Fernan Bridge, also known as Second Cebu–Mactan Bridge and the Second Bridge locally, is an extradosed cable-stayed bridge located in Metro Cebu in the Philippines. It crosses Mactan Channel connecting Mandaue in mainland Cebu to Lapu-Lapu City in Mactan Island. It is currently the second-longest cable-stayed bridge in the Philippines after Cebu–Cordova Link Expressway which also crosses the Mactan Channel. Before it was named the Marcelo Fernan Bridge, it was also called the Consolacion Bridge (which was a temporary name), owing to its proximity to the municipality of Consolacion, which is 1.6 mi from the north end of the bridge. It is one of three bridges crossing Mactan Channel, the others being Mactan–Mandaue Bridge (opened in 1973) and the aforementioned Cebu–Cordova Link Expressway (opened in 2022).

History
Marcelo Fernan Bridge was opened in August 1999 to decongest the traffic from the older Mactan–Mandaue Bridge, which opened in 1973. The bridge has a total length of 1237 m with a center span of 185 m, and was inaugurated by Philippine President Joseph Estrada on August 3, 1999. After its completing, the bridge was one of the widest and longest bridge spans in the Philippines. The bridge was constructed with the help of the Japanese Government. It was named after Senator Marcelo Fernan, a political figure from Cebu City.

Additional information
On the Mactan Island side of the bridge, there is a park called the Millennium Park at the base of the bridge's piers, and the Filipino Seafarers Memorial is located in that park. Also, the bridge has two pedestrian walkways, one on the north side of the bridge, and one on the south side. On the Cebu Island side of the bridge, there is Mandaue, and the bridge is accessed via United Nations Avenue. The Mactan side of the bridge, which is in Lapu-Lapu City, is accessed by Old Patiller Road, a spur road of the Manuel L. Quezon National Highway.

The bridge also sits astride the northern end of the Mactan Channel, which is a gateway to the Cebu International Port which is managed by the Cebu Port Authority, where about 80% of domestic and international shipping operators and shipbuilders in the Philippines are located. The Mactan–Mandaue Bridge is located about 1.6 km south of the Marcelo Fernan Bridge.

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Frunzenskaya (Moscow Metro)

Frunzenskaya (Фру́нзенская) is a Metro station on the Sokolnicheskaya Line in Moscow, Russia. The station was opened on 1 May 1957 as the first stage of the extension of the Frunzenskiy radius. As the radius follows the bend of the Moskva river, the whole segment had to be built very deep (42 metres/138 ft for Frunzenskaya).

The station closed on 2 January 2016 for renovation, which was expected to last 14 months. The renovations were completed ahead of schedule with the station reopening on December 29, 2016. The renovations included the installation of four new escalators to replace the three that had been in place. Metro authorities projected that the new escalators would reduce energy consumption by 40% and increase the capacity by one-third.

Architecture
The station is also symbolic as being one of the last in Moscow to be fully built in Stalinist style which dominated the Metro Architecture since the mid-1940s, afterwards the station designs show evidence of more vivid decorations that were meant to be installed yet designs were simplified (examples include the station VDNKh and Alexeyevskaya). Frunzenskaya still stands out and architects Robert Pogrebnoi and Yuriy Zenkivich applied a pylon design with cream marbled vaults and tops of pylons, decorated with metallic shields containing a five-sided star. The bottom of Pylons are a form of a thicker red marble base. Suspended from the ceiling are massive eight-horned chandeliers. The floor is covered with black and red granite on floors and the walls are faced with white ceramic tiles. In the far end of the station, in front of a red-marbled semicircle is a bust to Mikhail Frunze (work of sculptor Yevgeny Vuchetich), a famous military commander in the Russian Civil War for whom the station is named. The station's massive vestibule (architects Nadia Bykova, Ivan Taranov, I.G. Cherepanov, I.G.Gokhar-Kharmandaryan, N.I.Demchinskiy and T.A.Ilina) is situated on the Komsomolskiy Avenue and Kholzunov side-street was partially demolished and built into the Moscow's Palace of Youth building in the 1984, presently receives a daily passenger traffic of 47,410. Also behind the station is a junction for a branch to the Koltsevaya Line used for transfers.

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Are You Dead Yet?

Are You Dead Yet? is the fifth studio album by Finnish melodic death metal band Children of Bodom. It was released in Finland on 14 September 2005 and internationally on 25 October 2005 under the Century Media label. It is the first Children of Bodom album to feature guitarist Roope Latvala (Stone, Sinergy, ex-Waltari), due to the departure of their original rhythm guitarist Alexander Kuoppala.

Background
Are You Dead Yet? is the second Children of Bodom album to have two singles from it. "Trashed, Lost & Strungout" was released as an EP and single in 2004, and "In Your Face" was released in August 2005 shortly before the album. It was also their first album with three music videos, with their third video being the title track.

"If You Want Peace... Prepare for War" is the English translation of the Latin phrase Si vis pacem, para bellum and the song "Are You Dead Yet?" is a downloadable song in the music video game Rock Band 2, and it can also be played in some of the other Rock Band games.

The title track's video was shot in part at the Tavastia club in Helsinki, Finland on 13 February 2006. Additional footage for the video was filmed in the US. The clip received its premiere in the US on MTV's Headbangers Ball on 18 March 2006 wherein the band made a special appearance. The video for "Are You Dead Yet?" was directed by Ralf Strathmann and involves a rather controversial intimate make out scene that is bit graphic in nature for the actors who were minors at the time. Ashley Matthews (Riley Reid), better known as an American pornographic actress was just fourteen years old when she portrayed a prostitute. And actor Cohlie Brocato was only sixteen years old portraying the male counterpart portrayed in the video, all casting by Ralf Strathmann.

Name
The name of the album and its title track was conceived by Alexi Laiho after an alcohol-related injury. He alludes to this during the band's concert DVD, Chaos Ridden Years, and in a magazine article, says: "I came up with the new album title last winter when we were back home and I went out for a night of drinking. I got a hold of some of the cheapest vodka and just drank and drank and drank, and one thing led to another, so we were outside having fun, and I climbed on top of a car, and slipped and fell off, and next thing I know I was in hospital. I had three broken bones in my wrist and lots of stitches, got kept in over night. So when I woke up the next morning I obviously wasn't feeling too good. I looked in the mirror and said to myself, 'Have you had enough? Are you dead yet?'"

Reception
In 2005, Are You Dead Yet? was ranked number 485 in Rock Hard magazine's book of The 500 Greatest Rock & Metal Albums of All Time. However, it was criticized by Paul Stenning in Terrorizer as "interminably weak" and destructive of the band's "remaining credibility".

Personnel

 * Children Of Bodom
 * Alexi Laiho – lead guitar, lead vocals
 * Roope Latvala – rhythm guitar, solos on "If You Want Peace... Prepare For War", backing vocals
 * Henkka Seppälä – bass, backing vocals
 * Janne Wirman – keyboards
 * Jaska Raatikainen – drums

 * Additional musicians
 * Alexander Kuoppala – rhythm guitar on "Somebody Put Something in My Drink"
 * Jonna Kosonen – female vocals on "Oops!...... I Did It Again"

 * Production
 * Produced, recorded, and mixed by Mikko Karmila, except "Trashed, Lost & Strungout", produced and recorded by Anssi Kippo and mixed by Karmila
 * Mastered by Mika "Count" Jussila
 * Cover artwork by Sami Saramäki
 * Band photographs by Toni Härkönen

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Ruiterhof

Ruiterhof is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region B of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

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Description of suggested change: I have recently created WikiProject Animation/Skydance Media work group and I need to modify the Template:WikiProject Film to include what kind of category the articles related to films from Skydance Media belong to. BMA-Nation2020 (talk) 22:33, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

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Excuse me, people of the Wikiproject Film service but let me try to make it specific: After working on a few arctiles on Skydance Animation like Luck and Blush, I have recently created WikiProject Animation/Skydance Media work group and not only i need to modify the Template:WikiProject Animation but I need to modify the Template:WikiProject Film to include what kind of category the articles related to films from Skydance Media belong to. Since there are a lot of Skydance films, i wanna put them all down on the list and using Skydance=yes as a way to know each film is supported by our task force.

There's also a matter of doing it for Television, Video Games and Sports due to Skydance Television, Interactive, New Media, and Skydance Sports. All and all, i wanna make a group for people who like Skydance Media and it's divisions and making page based on Skydance's films, games, and sports docseries like Good Rivals. Can i please add Skydance to the template so i can check every last one of Skydance's films? BMA-Nation2020 (talk) 22:39, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
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I cannot confirm whether this was caused by your edits, but this template is now producing a large amount of whitespace (gap) below it in multiple namespaces, though it appears the mainspace is not affected. You can observe this phenomenon at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film, Category talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe, Template talk:Star Wars, and File talk:Star Trek The Motion Picture poster.png. Could you (or any other editor with template-editing access) please look into this? Thank you! InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:35, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:WOMBLES

Disbanded
I had edited this page to point out the WOMBLES have been disbanded but this has been reversed based on the reasonable grounds that there web site does not say this and I'm unable to provide proper references (I know this from talking to a couple of the more prominent ex members at the London Anarchist Bookfair last weekend but that doesn't really fit the reference format!)

Racism
Is this a racist group?
 * No. In fact I'm sure they're quite the contrary. --Tothebarricades 02:27, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

They certainly are Eurocentric though. They promote Euromayday!Harrypotter 17:00, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

 * "White" refers to the white overalls, not race. NickF 21:19, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

POV
Mm, the latest edit to this page is ridiculously POV - I'm guessing someone from xxx is responsible? essentially everything following the four bullet points is a libertarian critique of the WOMBLES and their organising that I feel has no place in an encyclopaedia.

 * - xxx indicates a group which had nothing to do with ever editing this page. As a baseless accusation I thought it best to remove it. This discussion "is it a racist group" (and subsequent Eurocentric comment), which is obviously silly has been started by a couple of people who are known on the London anarchist scene, and have made similar accusations about the WOMBLES before which "xxx" have deleted as false smears.

 * should clarify - by "this page" I was referring to the article, not this discussion page. In the article, while everything up to the "professed aims" section is fairly NPOV, what follows is not information, but analysis - a critique, one might say, and one which has a lot in common with the views of the group mentioned earlier (I do accept, however, that it was wrong to name said group without evidence). How the statement "As time goes on and the WOMBLES continue to exist then they can perhaps be seen as the fetishisation of organisation. They exist because they ARE the WOMBLES, they no longer represent a viable anarchist method of organising for confrontation with the State" can be seen as neutral is beyond me. --Black Butterfly 18:51, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Black butterfly - the critique of the wombles incorporated into the articles does not having much "in common with the views of the group mentioned earlier", which are highly organisationalis, and the critique presented was highly organisationalist.

I agree that much of the stuff that has been (rightly) removed is POV analysis presented as fact. One small thing that might be worth rescuing is that they were inspired by the Itailan Tute Bianche.--JK the unwise 08:54, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

references to secret police bases
There are some issues with the references to the statement that "The group also provides information to anarchists on police tactics learnt at "secret training bases"[1] where allegedly "cops are instructed in how to cause maximum damage to an individual with a two-foot long steel bar"".

While this quote does come from the WOMBLES website, the refs provided seem to be an attempt to back up this claim, something which they completely fail at. For example:

The claim for secret police bases comes from the BBC article about a "New £50m police training centre". If it's in the news, then by its very nature, it's not a secret base.

The claim for cops having 2' steel bars comes from an American company that sells acetate police batons. This has absolutely nothing to do with a police force, especially those in the UK...and the baton itself isn't made of steel.

The idea of police being trained to cause "maximum damage to an individual" comes from a chart demonstrating points of the body to aim for. Instead of encouraging damage, these are meant to stop citizens engaged in self defence (nothing to do with police) from causing lasting harm. The article on globalsecurity.org deals with the US Army. Not the British police.

Maybe someone's being a bit keen to prove false points? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.1.121.91 (talk • contribs) 02:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC).

 * I put the references in to come back later and expand on what's said in the quotes. It's the nature of the training which is secret - the Police Tactical Options Manual is not in the public domain. The American company (Monadnock) is the main supplier of public order weapons to UK police forces. I don't understand your claim about citizens engaging in self defence (do you mean the WOMBLES?), it is a matter of public record that Monadnock baton charts are used in police training.
 * Wnjr 10:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Fascism?
In the end of the articla, it it stated: "they attended the [...] Conference [...] which reached the concensual decision to the participation of fascists in future events" -- can somebody please clarify this? I read the minutes of the conference that is referred to, and the only mentions of fascism are in terms of rejecting it. --Vesteinn (talk) 02:36, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

It is disbanded, but -- notability?
As of March 2009, the website says members of the group -- which it denies was a "group" -- effectively disbanded in 2006, as they did not meet since then. It says the website continues because it is produced "autonomously of the group": see. (This sounds a lot like the wensite is produced by one person!).

Thus you could restore the claim that it is disbanded. However, it has to be asked whether this "group" meets general notability guidelines. It itself denies being a "group", it claims never to have had a formal structure, had no defined membership and no defined creed. As such they do not state "membership" numbers, but judging from newspaper photos of the rallies they attended in the distinctive uniform, there were never more than 7 (and probably not the same 7.) They stopped doing this in October 2002 and subsequently held a few informal meetings up until no later than 2006. (One wonders if it is a coincidence that the group lasted about as long as an undergraduate degree ... )

So this group is really just a small group of friends who went to 5 rallies dressed similarly, and later hung out together for a short while discussing common interests. If the WOMBLES are notable, I'm going to start an article about the friends I used to play cards with at uni. We had some really deep talks between rounds of 500, we had a secret symbol (I won't say what it was, partly because it was a secret, but mainly because with the advantage of growing years, it now seems rather juvenile) and there was a lot more than 7 of us. Possible as many as 12 at one point. -- 202.63.39.58 (talk) 07:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

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Sandhurst, Gauteng

Sandhurst is an affluent residential area in Sandton, in the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality, Gauteng, South Africa. It is one of the wealthiest suburbs in the country and is home to some of the most impressive mansions on the African continent. Part of the commercial centre of Sandton, known as Sandton City, lies in Sandhurst.

A small few estates were built in the early 1900s, however the majority where built in the middle and early-latter parts of the century between 1940 and 1970. Many of these properties have diminished in area however due to subdivisions.

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