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Talk:Comparison_of_file_systems
Dear Atario, regarding your rejection of my modifications at the Talk:Comparison_of_file_systems I would like to add a comment:
 * the modifications that I made were restricted to obsolete, reduntant and harmful comments, and consciously done with respect to the interests of others
 * I made them step by step, that if someone feels overruled, that person can simply reject that specifically
 * I accept that guidelines of wikipedia, but that Talk page is overloaded and partly useless, thus, the changes refer to the intention of the rules

So for constructive work I can suggest the following:
 * 1) you accept my changes and revert to the state of my modifications
 * 2) you do the work for necessary cleanup
 * 3) something else?

I do not suggest to leave the page as it, it has no quality like that ! for articles of value --Bienengasse (talk) 13:17, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * My suggestion would be to leave it alone, as it reflects the actual history of the discussion, and changing that is tantamount to attempting to censor history. If you still feel strongly enough about it, I would suggest contacting the individual commenters and seeking their permissions for what you intend to change about their comments.  Keep in mind that if you want to change or delete a comment, you'll need the permission of the person who wrote it and the tree of people who replied beneath it (since altering an ancestor comment destroys the context for their comments too).  —Atario (talk) 05:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

 * Sorry, I disagree in this case. The reason therefore you can find in the changes that I made:
 * Removing disrespectful comments is according to the guideline
 * merging topics do not change the content significantly
 * removing old demands for information, that were already fulfilled (look on the timestamp)
 * a little bit of cleanup that is obviously necessary
 * So what was wrong with that? I am not willing to spend time for wikipedia to improve the quality and readability finally for nothing. Asking the writers for permission as you suggested is a punch of work and partly obviously useless. Sorry for being strong in my statement, but if you claim that work from me, do it yourself, rejecting is to easy !!

 * I decided now to revert your action. The reason is that I did nothing wrong and I followed the rules as they intended. I respect the opinion of others that have a specific place in the Talk section, but that shouldn't result in a messy, redundant, obsolete and disrespectful page. I concentrated carfully on the minimum of necessary work.

 * Feel free to do the work that you suggested, if you are convinced that this is the better choice. Check the changes as carefully as the rules.--Bienengasse (talk) 21:02, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've submitted this to the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard (Dispute_resolution_noticeboard). —Atario (talk) 12:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing out this issue, finally the result is pretty the same. For me a good point to consider, that there are enough others to improve...--Bienengasse (talk) 16:22, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

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Myeongjong of Joseon

Myeongjong (13 July 1534 – 12 August 1567), personal name Yi Hwan, was the 13th monarch of the Joseon dynasty of Korea. He was the second son of King Jungjong, born to Queen Munjeong.

He ascended to the throne in 1545 at the age of 12 following the death of his elder half-brother, King Injong. Since he was too young to govern, his mother became regent.

Political factions
There were two political factions at the time Myeongjong came to power; Greater Yun, headed by Yun Im, Injong's maternal uncle, and Lesser Yun, headed by Myeongjong's maternal uncles, Yun Won-hyeong and Yun Wonro. (Yun Im and Yun Brothers were close relatives by that period's standards - Yun Im was a third cousin once removed of Yun Brothers.) Greater Yun took power in 1544, when Injong succeeded Jungjong; but they failed to wipe out their opposition, since Queen Munjeong protected the Lesser Yun faction and other opposition officials.

After the death of Injong in 1545, Lesser Yun replaced Greater Yun as the majority in the royal court and brutally ousted their adversaries in the Fourth Literati Purge of 1545. Yun Im was executed, as were many of his followers.

Rise of Yun Won-hyeong
The Lesser Yun faction continued to attack their opposition. In 1546, Yun Won-hyeong impeached his older brother, Yun Won-ro, who was executed a few days later along with his followers. Facing no opposition from the government, Yun Won-hyeong became Minister of Personnel 이조판서 in 1548, Left State Councilor in 1551 and ultimately Chief State Councilor 영의정 in 1563.

Despite Yun Won-hyeong's violent rule, Queen Munjeong was an effective administrator, distributing to the common people land formerly owned by the nobility. However, she held on to rule even after the king reached his majority at the age of 20.

Death of Queen Munjeong
After the death of Queen Munjeong in 1565, the king decided to rule the kingdom by himself and had his uncle, Yun Won-hyeong, put to death, along with his second wife Jeong Nan-jeong, who also rose to power due to her close friendship and being the second sister-in-law to Queen Munjeong. Yun Won-hyeong allowed corruption to flourish in the government. And while the kingdom was unstable, Jurchens, Japanese, and rebellious troops rampaged at will and threatened the government itself. Rebel leader Im Kkeok-jeong was arrested and executed in 1552, but outside invasion continued; the Joseon Dynasty had to re-mobilize its army and navy along to protect its borders.

Death and succession
Myeongjong tried to reform the government after taking power into his own hands by recalling and reinstating Sarim scholars who were exiled in the purge, but died only two years later without any male issue. Yi Gyun, Prince Haseong (later known as Yi Yeon, Seonjo of Joseon), his half-nephew from his older half-brother Grand Internal Prince Deokheung, was adopted by his wife, the now Queen Dowager Uiseong, to succeed the throne in 1567.

Family
Consort(s) and their respective issue
 * Father: King Jungjong of Joseon (16 April 1488 – 29 November 1544)
 * Grandfather: King Seongjong of Joseon (19 August 1457 – 20 January 1494)
 * Grandmother: Queen Jeonghyeon of the Papyeong Yun clan (21 July 1462 – 13 September 1530)
 * Mother: Queen Munjeong of the Papyeong Yun clan (12 December 1501 – 15 May 1565)
 * Grandfather: Yun Ji-im, Internal Prince Pasan (1475 – 14 April 1534)
 * Grandmother: Internal Princess Consort Jeonseong of the Jeonui Yi clan (1475–1511)
 * Queen Insun of the Cheongsong Shim clan (27 June 1532 – 12 February 1575)
 * Yi Bu, Crown Prince Sunhoe (11 July 1551 – 16 October 1563)
 * Royal Noble Consort Gyeong of the Jeonui Yi clan (1541–1595)
 * Royal Noble Consort Sun of the Dongnae Jeong clan (1540–1593)
 * Royal Consort Gwi-in of the Geochang Shin clan (1538 – ?)
 * Royal Consort Suk-ui of the Han clan (1536–1594)
 * Royal Consort Suk-ui of the Pyeongsan Shin clan (1533–1565)
 * Royal Consort Suk-ui of the Onyang Jeong clan (1537 – ?)

In popular culture

 * Portrayed by Seo Dong-hyun in the 2013 KBS2 TV series The Fugitive of Joseon.
 * Portrayed by Lee David in the 2016 JTBC TV series Mirror of the Witch.
 * Portrayed by Seo Ha-joon in the 2016 MBC TV series The Flower in Prison.

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Kurukshetra War

The Kurukshetra War (कुरुक्षेत्र युद्ध), also called the Mahabharata War, is a war described in the Hindu epic poem Mahabharata, arising from a dynastic struggle between two groups of cousins, the Kauravas and the Pandavas, for the throne of Hastinapura. The war is used as the context for the dialogues of the ''Bhagavad Gita.

Background
The Mahābhārata is an account of the life and deeds of several generations of a ruling dynasty called the Kuru clan. Central to the epic is an account of a war that took place between two rival families belonging to this clan. Kurukshetra (literally "Region of the Kurus"), also known as Dharmakshetra (the "Region of Dharma"), was the battleground on which the Kurukshetra War was fought. The first Mahābhārata says that this site was chosen because a sin committed on land was forgiven because of the land's sanctity.

The events of the war make up more than a quarter of the Mahabharata. These chapters are considered among the oldest in the Mahabharata.

Historicity and dating
The historicity of the war remains the subject of scholarly discussion. The Battle of the Ten Kings, mentioned in the Rigveda, may have formed the core of the Kurukshetra war's story. The war was greatly expanded and modified in the Mahabharata 's account, which makes it dubious. Attempts have been made to assign a historical date to the Kurukshetra war, with research suggesting c. 1000 BCE. However, popular tradition claims that the war marks the transition to the Kali Yuga, dating it to c. 3102 BCE.

Literary traces
It is possible that the Battle of the Ten Kings, mentioned in the Rigveda, may have "formed the 'nucleus' of the story" of the Kurukshetra war, though it was greatly expanded and modified in the Mahābhārata's account making the Mahābhārata 's version of very dubious historicity. Although the Kurukshetra War is not mentioned in Vedic literature, its prominence in later literature led British Indologist A. L. Basham to conclude that there was a great battle at Kurukshetra which, "magnified to titanic proportions, formed the basis of the story of the greatest of India's epics, the Mahābhārata". Acknowledging that later "generations looked upon it as marking an end of an epoch", he suggested that rather than being a civil war it might have been "a muddled recollection of the conquest of the Kurus by a tribe of Mongol type from the hills". He saw it as useless to the historian and dates the war to the ninth century BCE based on archaeological evidence and "some evidence in the Brahmana literature itself to show that it cannot have been much earlier".

Puranic literature presents genealogical lists associated with the Mahābhārata narrative. There are two pieces of evidence of the Puranas: there is the direct statement that there were 1,015 (or 1,050) years between the birth of Parikshit (Arjun's grandson) and the accession of Mahapadma Nanda, commonly dated to 382 BCE, which would yield an estimate of about 1400 BCE for the Bharata battle, which would imply improbably long reigns on average for the kings listed in the genealogies.

There are also analyses of parallel genealogies in the Puranas between the times of Adhisimakrishna (Parikshit's great-grandson) and Mahapadma Nanda. Pargiter estimated 26 generations by averaging 10 different dynastic lists and assuming 18 years for the average duration of a reign, arrived at an estimate of 850 BCE for Adhisimakrishna and approximately 950 BCE for the Bharata battle.

Scholarly dating
Despite the inconclusiveness of the data, attempts have been made to assign a historical date to the Kurukshetra War. The existing text of the Mahābhārata went through many revisions, and mostly belongs to the period between c. 500 BCE and 400 CE. Within the frame story of the Mahābhārata, the kings Parikshit and Janamejaya are featured significantly as scions of the Kuru clan, and Michael Witzel concludes that the general setting of the epic has a historical precedent in the Vedic period, where the Kuru kingdom was the center of political power during roughly 1200 to 800 BCE. According to Professor Alf Hiltebeitel, the Mahābhārata is essentially mythological. Indian historian Upinder Singh wrote: "Whether a bitter war between the Pandavas and the Kauravas ever happened cannot be proved or disproved. It is possible that there was a small-scale conflict, transformed into a gigantic epic war by bards and poets. Some historians and archaeologists have argued that this conflict may have occurred in about 1000 BCE."

According to Finnish Sindhologist Asko Parpola, the war may have taken place during the later phase of the Painted Grey Ware, c/ 750–350 BCE.

Popular tradition and archaeoastronomy
Popular tradition holds that the war marks the transition to Kali Yuga and dates it to 3102 BCE. A number of other proposals have been put forward:
 * Vedveer Arya gives a date of 3162 BCE, by distinguishing between the Śaka and Śakanta eras and applying correction of 60 years to the date given in popular tradition and based on Aihole inscription.
 * B. N. Achar used planetarium software to argue that the Mahabharata War took place in 3067 BCE.
 * Dieter Koch dates the war to 1198 BCE using planetarium software on the basis super-conjunctions mentioned in the text.
 * Kesheo Lakshman Daftari, one of the members of the Calendar Reform Committee which prepared the Indian national calendar, holds that the war took place in 1197 BCE.
 * V. S. Dubey claims that the war happened near 950 BCE.

Associations with archaeological cultures
Indian archeologist B. B. Lal used the same approach with a more conservative assumption of the average reign to estimate a date of 836 BCE and correlated it with archaeological evidence from Painted Grey Ware (PGW) sites, the association being strong between PGW artifacts and places mentioned in the epic. John Keay confirmed it and also dated the battle to have taken place in 950 BCE.

According to Parpola, the war may have taken place during the later phase of the Painted Grey Ware culture, c. 750-350 BCE. He noted that the Pandava heroes are not being mentioned in the Vedic literature from before the Grhyasutras. Parpola suggests that the Pandavas were Iranic migrants, who came to South Asia around 800 BCE.

Excavations in Sinauli unearthed burials with the remains of carts belonging to the Ochre Coloured Pottery culture (OCP). Several authors proposed to relate the Rig Vedic culture and the war to the OCP, instead of the PGW. While the carts are dated to 1800–1500 BCE (±150), Gupta and Mani state that "in the present state of archaeological evidence OCP seems to be a stronger contender for the Mahābhārata association", dating the war to the 4th millennium BCE. Parpola sees the finds as ox-pulled carts, indicating support for his proposal for a first wave of Indo-Aryan migrations into the Indian subcontinent at the beginning of the 2nd millennium BCE, prior to the migration of the Rig Vedic people.

Beginning
In the beginning, Sanjaya gives a description of the various continents of the Earth, the other planets, and focuses on the Indian subcontinent, then gives an elaborate list of kingdoms, tribes, provinces, cities, towns, villages, rivers, mountains, and forests of the ancient Indian subcontinent (Bharata Varsha). He also explains the military formations adopted by each side on each day, the death of each hero and the details of each war-racing.

Krishna's peace mission

As a last attempt at peace is called for in Rajadharma, Krishna travels to the Kingdom of Hastinapura to persuade the Kauravas to see reason, avoid bloodshed of their kin, and to embark upon a peaceful path with him as the "divine" ambassador of the Pandavas. Duryodhana is insulted that Krishna turns down his invitation to accommodate himself in the royal palace. Duryodhana plots to arrest Krishna and insult, humiliate, and defame him in front of the entire royal court of Hastinapura as a challenge to the prestige of the Pandavas and declaration of an act of open war.

At the formal presentation of the peace proposal by Krishna in the Kuru Mahasabha at the court of Hastinapura, Krishna asks Duryodhana to return Indraprastha to the Pandavas and restore the status quo, or at least give five villages, one for each of the Pandavas; Duryodhana refuses. Krishna's peace proposals are ignored and dismissed, and Duryodhana publicly orders his soldiers to arrest Krishna despite warnings from the elders. Krishna laughs and displays his divine form, radiating intense light. He curses Duryodhana that his downfall was certain at the hands of the one who was sworn to tear off his thigh. His peace mission utterly insulted by Duryodhana, Krishna returns to the Pandava camp at Upaplavya to inform the Pandavas that the only course left to uphold the principles of virtue and righteousness is war. During his return, Krishna meets Karna, Kunti's firstborn (before Yudhishthira), and asks him to help his brothers and fight on the side of dharma. However, as he is being helped by Duryodhana, Karna says to Krishna that he would battle against the Pandavas as he had a debt to pay.

War preparations

Duryodhana and Arjuna go to Krishna at Dvaraka to ask for his and his army's help. Duryodhana arrives first and finds Krishna asleep. Duryodhana chooses a seat at Krishna's head and waits for him to awaken, while Arjuna sits and waits at Krishna's feet. When Krishna woke up, he saw Arjuna first and gave him the first right to make his request. Krishna tells Arjuna and Duryodhana that he would give the Narayani Sena consisting of gopas   to one side and himself as a non-combatant to the other. Since Arjuna is given the first opportunity to choose, Duryodhana worries that Arjuna would choose the mighty army of Krishna. When given the choice of either Krishna's army or Krishna himself on their side, Arjuna chooses Krishna. Arjuna asks Krishna to be his charioteer, who agrees. Both Duryodhana and Arjuna returned satisfied.

The Pandavas gather their armies while camping at Upaplavya in Virata's territory. Contingents arrive from across the country.

Pandava Army

Yudhishthira asks his brothers to organize their army. The Pandavas have seven akshauhinis with the help of their allies. After consulting his commanders, the Pandavas appoint Dhrishtadyumna as the Major General of the Pandava Army.

Kaurava Army
The Kaurava Army is made up of 11 akshauhinis. This includes the Narayani Sena of Krishna, which originally included seven maharathis (Krishna, Balarama, Samba, Ahuka, Charudeshna, Chakradeva, and Satyaki) and seven athirathis (Kritavarma, Anadhrishti, Samika, Samitinjaya, Kanka, Sanku, and Kunti). Duryodhana asks Bhishma to command the Kaurava Army. Bhishma accepts on the condition that, while he would fight the battle sincerely, he would not harm the five Pandava brothers. He also says that Karna would rather not fight under him, but serve as Duryodhana's bodyguard as long as he was in the battlefield. Having little choice, Duryodhana agrees to Bhishma's conditions and makes him the Major General of the Kaurava Army, while Karna is debarred from fighting. Karna joins the war later when Bhishma is severely wounded by Arjuna.

Neutral parties
The Kingdom of Vidarbha, Vidura, and Balarama are the neutral parties in this war. Rukmi, King of Vidarbha, wanted to join the war, but Arjuna refuses because he had lost to Krishna during Rukmini's svayamvara and he boasted about his war strength and army, and Duryodhana does not want Arjuna's reject. Vidura does not want to see bloodshed and is insulted by Duryodhana.

Before the battle
The Mahābhārata states that in the year in which the war took place, three solar eclipses took place within a thirty-day period; eclipses are considered ill omens in Hindu astrology.

On the first day of the war, as would be on all the following days, the Kaurava Army stood facing west and the Pandava Army east. The Pandava Army was organised by Yudhishthira and Arjuna in the diamond (vajra) formation.

Ten akshauhinis of the Kaurava Army were arranged in a phalanx. The eleventh was put under the immediate command of Bhishma, partly to protect him. The safety of the supreme commander Bhishma was central to Duryodhana's strategy, as he had placed all his hope on the great warrior's abilities.

The Bhagavad Gita
When the war is declared and the two armies face each other, Arjuna realises that he would have to kill his dear granduncle Bhishma and his respected teacher Drona. Despondent and confused about what is right and what is wrong, Arjuna turns to Krishna for divine advice and teachings. Krishna, who Arjuna chose as his charioteer, advised him of his duty. Krishna instructs Arjuna not to yield to degrading impotence and to fight his kin. He also reminds him that it is a war between righteousness and unrighteousness (dharma and adharma), and it is Arjuna's duty to slay anyone who supported the cause of unrighteousness, or sin. Krishna reveals his divine form and explains that he is born on earth in each eon when evil raises its head.

Before the battle begins, Yudhishthira drops his weapons, takes off his armor, and walks towards the Kaurava Army with folded hands in prayer. He falls on Bhishma's feet to seek his blessing for success in battle, and he is blessed. Yudhishthira returned to his chariot and the battle was ready to commence.

Day 1
The Pandavas suffered heavy losses and are defeated at the end of the first day. Virata's sons, Uttara and Sweta, are slain by Shalya and Bhishma. Krishna consoles Yudhishthira saying that eventually, victory would be his.

Day 2
Arjuna, realizing that something needs to be done quickly to reverse the Pandava losses, decides to kill Bhishma. Krishna locates Bhishma's chariot and steers Arjuna toward him. Arjuna tries to engage Bhishma in a duel, but the Kaurava soldiers protect him and attack Arjuna. Arjuna and Bhishma fight a fierce battle over hours. Drona and Dhrishtadyumna similarly engage in a duel, and Drona defeats Dhrishtadyumna, who is saved by Bhima. Duryodhana sends the troops of Kalinga to attack Bhima and most of them, including the King of Kalinga, are killed. Bhishma comes to relieve the battered Kalinga forces. Satyaki, who was assisting Bhima, shoots at Bhishma's charioteer and kills him. Bhishma's horses bolt and carry Bhishma away from the battlefield.

Day 3
The Kauravas concentrate their attack on Arjuna, whose chariot becomes covered with arrows and javelins. Arjuna builds a fortification around his chariot with an unending stream of arrows from his bow. Abhimanyu and Satyaki join forces to defeat Shakuni's Gandhara forces. Bhima and Ghatotkacha attack Duryodhana in the rear. Bhima's arrows hit Duryodhana, who collapses in his chariot. His charioteer drives him off the battlefield, and Duryodhana's forces scatter. Bhishma restores order and Duryodhana returns to lead the army. He is angry at Bhishma for what he saw as leniency towards the five Pandava brothers, and spoke harshly of him. Bhishma, stung by this unfair charge, returns to the battlefield.

Arjuna attacks Bhishma to restore order. Arjuna and Bhishma duel again.

Day 4
Bhishma commands the Kaurava Army to move on the offensive. When the Kauravas form a chakravyuha, Abhimanyu enters it but is surrounded and attacked by Kaurava princes. Arjuna joins to help him. Bhima appears and attacks the Kauravas. Duryodhana sends a huge force of war elephants at Bhima, who leaves his chariot and attacks them singlehandedly with his iron mace. The elephants scatter and stampede into the Kaurava forces. Duryodhana orders an all-out attack on Bhima, who kills eight of Duryodhana's brothers before being struck by an arrow from Dushasana, the second-eldest Kaurava, in the chest and sits down in his chariot dazed.

At the end of the fourth day, Duryodhana goes to Bhisma and asks him how could the Pandavas, facing a superior force against them, have the upper hand. Bhishma says that the Pandavas have justice on their side and advises Duryodhana to seek peace.

Day 5
The Pandava Army suffers from Bhishma's attacks. Satyaki is being beaten by Drona, but Bhima drives by and rescues him. Arjuna kills thousands of soldiers sent by Duryodhana to attack him. Bhima engages Bhishma in a duel with no clear winner. Drupada and his son Shikhandi go to help Bhima, but they are stopped by Vikarna, one of Duryodhana's brothers, who attacks and injures them badly.

Day 6
Drona kills many Pandava soldiers and both armies' formations are broken. Bhima penetrates the Kaurava formation and attacks Duryodhana, who is defeated but rescued. The Upapandavas (sons of Draupadi) fight against Ashwatthama and destroy his chariot.

Day 7
Drona kills Shanka, one of Virata's son. Yuyutsu is injured by Kripa in a sword fight. Nakula and Sahadeva fight Duryodhana's brothers but are overwhelmed by the number of them.

Day 8
Bhima kills 17 of Dhritarashtra's sons. Iravan, the son of Arjuna, kills five of Shakuni's brothers. Duryodhana deploys the Rakshasa warrior Alambusha, who kills Iravan.

Day 9
Bhishma destroys Pandava armies. Arjuna heads to Bhishma but fights him half-heartedly. Krishna, overwhelmed by anger at the apparent inability of Arjuna to kill Bhishma, rushes towards the Kaurava commander. Ghatotkacha kills the rakshasa Alambusha.

Realising that the war could not be won as long as Bhishma was standing, Krishna suggests placing a transgender in the field to face him.

Day 10

The Pandavas put Shikhandi, who had been a woman in a prior life, in front of Bhishma, as Bhishma has taken a vow not to attack a woman. Shikhandi's arrows fell on Bhishma without hindrance. Arjuna positions himself behind Shikhandi, protecting himself from Bhishma's attack and aimed his arrows at the weak points in Bhishma's armor and defeats him.

The Kauravas and Pandavas gathered around Bhishma and at his request, Arjuna places three arrows under Bhishma's head to support it. Bhishma had promised his father, King Shantanu, that he would live until Hastinapura was secured from all directions. To keep this promise, Bhishma used the boon of Ichcha Mrityu (self-wished death) given to him by his father. After the war ended, when Hastinapura had become safe from all sides and after giving lessons on politics and Vishnu Sahasranama to the Pandavas, Bhishma dies on the first day of Uttarayana.

Day 11
With Bhishma unable to continue, Karna joins the battlefield. Duryodhana makes Drona the Major General of the Kaurava forces according to Karna's advice. Duryodhana wants to capture Yudhishthira alive; killing Yudhishthira in battle would only enrage the Pandavas more, while holding him as a hostage would be strategically useful. Drona cuts down Yudhishthira's bow, and Arjuna stops Drona from capturing Yudhishthira.

Day 12
Drona tells Duryodhana that it would be difficult to capture Yudhishthira as long as Arjuna is present. He orders the Samsaptakas (the Trigarta warriors headed by Susharma, who had vowed to either conquer or die) to keep Arjuna busy in a remote part of the battlefield, an order which they readily obey on account of their old hostilities with the Pandava scion. Arjuna defeats them before the afternoon, then faces Bhagadatta, who had been creating havoc among the Pandava troops, and defeated Bhima, Abhimanyu and Satyaki. Arjuna and Bhagadatta fight and the latter is killed. Drona continues his attempts to capture Yudhishthira, however his attacks were repelled by Prativindhya that day. The Pandavas, however, fought hard and delivered severe blows to the Kaurava Army, frustrating Drona's plans.

Day 13
Drona's goal remains to capture Yudhishthira. Among the Pandavas, only Arjuna and Krishna knew how to penetrate this formation, and to prevent them from doing so, the Samsaptakas led by Susharma challenge Arjuna and keep him busy at a remote part of the battlefield the whole day.

On the other side of the battlefield, the remaining four Pandavas and their allies find it impossible to break Drona's chakra formation. Yudhishthira instructed Abhimanyu to break the chakra/padma formation. Abhimanyu knows how to enter the chakra formation, but not know how to exit, so the Pandava follow to protect him from any potential danger. As soon as Abhimanyu enters the formation, Jayadratha stops them with help from a boon obtained from Shiva, and defeats Bhima and Satyaki.

Inside the chakra/kamala formation, Abhimanyu kills many warriors, including Vrihadvala (the king of Kosala); the king of Asmaka, Martikavata (the son of Kritavarma); Rukmaratha (the son of Shalya); and Shalya's younger brother, Lakshmana (the son of Duryodhana) and Dushasana's second son, Dushmanara.

The Kaurava commanders devise a strategy to prevent Abhimanyu from causing further damage to their force. Following Drona's instructions, six warriors attacks Abhimanyu and deprived him of his chariot, bow, sword, and shield. Abhimanyu picks up a mace; smashes Ashwatthma's chariot (upon which the latter fled); and slays one of Shakuni's brothers numerous troops, and elephants before being killed by the son of Dushasana in a mace-fight.

Upon learning of the death of his son, Arjuna vows to kill Jayadratha.

Day 14

While searching for Jayadratha on the battlefield, Arjuna kills seven akshauhinis of Kaurava soldiers. By Shakuni's plot, Duryodhana hides Jayadratha in their camp. Arjuna uses divyastra to carry Jayadratha's head to his father leading to his own father's death. Many maharathis including Drona and Karna try to protect Jayadratha but fail to do so. Arjuna warns that everyone who supported adharma would be killed.

While Arjuna destroys the rest of the Shakatavyuha, Vikarna, the third eldest Kaurava, challenges Arjuna to an archery fight. Arjuna asks Bhima to kill Vikarna, but Bhima refuses because Vikarna had defended the Pandavas during the Draupadi Vastrapaharanam. Bhima and Vikarna shoot arrows at each other, before Bhima kills Vikarna with his mace. Drona kills Vrihatkshatra, the King of Kekeya, and Dhrishtakethu, the King of Chedi.

Dushasana's first son, Drumsena, is slain by Prativindya, the eldest son of Draupadi and Yudhishthira, in a duel. When the bright moon rose, Ghatotkacha killed warriors like Alambusha and Alayudha while flying in the air. Karna fights him and releases Vasava Shakti, a divine weapon given to him by Indra. Ghatotkacha grows in size and falls on the Kaurava Army as he dies, killing an akshauhini of them.

Day 15
After Drupada and Virata are killed by Drona, Bhima and Dhrishtadyumna fight him. Because Drona has the Brahmanda astra, Krishna tells Yudhishthira that Drona would give up his arms if his son Ashwatthama were dead. Yudhishthir lies to Drona. Which disheartens Dronacharya, and he lays his weapons doen before being killed by Dhrishtadyumna to avenge his father's death and satisfy his vow. Kunti secretly meets Karna and asks him to spare the Pandavas, as they were his younger brothers. Karna promises Kunti that he would spare them except for Arjuna, but also added that he would not fire the same weapon against Arjuna twice.

Day 16

Karna is made the Major General of the Kaurav Army. He is surrounded and attacked by Pandava generals, who are unable to defeat him. Karna inflicts heavy damage on the Pandava Army.

Day 17

Karna's son Banasena is killed by Bhima then Bhima swings his mace and shatters Dushasana's chariot. Vrishasena defeats Bhima, Sahadeva and the Upapandavas. Bhima seizes Dushasana, rips his right arm from his shoulder, and kills him, tearing open his chest, drinking his blood, and carrying some to smear on Draupadi's untied hair, fulfilling his vow made when Draupadi was humiliated. Nakula killed Karna's sons, Chitrasena, Satyasena and Sushena. Sahadeva killed Karna's sons, Dvipata, Shatrunjaya and Prasena. Arjuna kills Susharma, Trigartas, and Samsaptakas and Karna's first son, Vrishasena. Karna later defeats Satyaki, Shikhandi, the Pandava brothers Nakula, Sahadeva, Yudhishthira and Bhima in battle but spares their lives. Karna kills multiple akshauhinis of the Pandava Army and kills the Panchalas. Karna resumes dueling with Arjuna. During their duel, Karna's chariot wheel gets stuck in the mud and Karna asks for a pause. Krishna reminded Arjuna about Karna's ruthlessness on Abhimanyu while he was similarly left without chariot and weapons. Hearing his son's fate, Arjuna shoots an arrow that decapitates Karna.

Day 18
Shalya takes over as the Major General of the remaining Kaurava forces. Yudhishthira kills him in spear combat and Sahadeva kills Shakuni. Nakula kills Shakuni's son Uluka. Realizing that he had been defeated, Duryodhana flees the battlefield and takes refuge in the lake, where the Pandavas catch up with him. Under the supervision of the now-returned Balarama, a battle between Bhima and Duryodhana begins. Bhima breaks the rules under instructions from Krishna and strikes Duryodhana below the waist, leaving him mortally wounded.

Ashwatthama, Kripa, and Kritavarma gather at Duryodhana's deathbed and promise to avenge him. With Ashwatthama as general, they attack the Pandavas' camp later that night and kill all the Pandavas' remaining army including their children.

Aftermath

Only eleven major warriors survive the war: the five Pandavas, Krishna, Satyaki, Ashwatthama, Kripa, Yuyutsu and Kritavarma. Yudhishthira is crowned King of Hastinapura. After ruling for 36 years, he renounces the throne and passes the title on to Arjuna's grandson Parikshit. Draupadi and four Pandavas—Bhima, Arjuna, Nakula and Sahadeva - die during the journey. Yudhishthira, the lone survivor and being of pious heart, is invited by Yama to enter the heavens as a mortal.

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Fellow of the American Institute of Architects

Fellow of the American Institute of Architects (FAIA) is a postnominal title or membership, designating an individual who has been named a fellow of the American Institute of Architects (AIA).

Fellowship is bestowed by the institute on AIA-member architects who have made outstanding contributions to the profession through design excellence, contributions in the field of architectural education, or to the advancement of the profession. In 2014, fewer than 3,200 of the more than 80,000 AIA members were fellows. Honorary Fellowship (Hon. FAIA) is awarded to foreign (non-U.S. citizen) architects, and to non-architects who have made substantial contributions to the field of architecture or to the institute.

Categories
Fellowship is awarded in one of six categories:
 * Design
 * Practice management or technical advancement
 * Leadership
 * Public service
 * Volunteer work or service to society
 * Education and research

History
Membership in the American Institute of Architects was originally divided into two categories, Professional and Associate, with the former largely corresponding to the later title of Fellow. This title was first proposed in 1864 by Calvert Vaux, and by at least 1867 was in common use. Earlier Professional members, including several of the founders, began using the title at this time, and prior Professional members are now considered Fellows. During this period, the title was considered a senior rather than honorary title. In 1889, the AIA was merged with the Western Association of Architects (WAA), which had designated all of its members Fellows. Upon the merger, WAA members kept their title and all existing AIA members were raised to Fellowship. Beginning in 1890, Fellowship was the primary form of membership in the AIA, in addition to "Honorary and Corresponding" members, who, as in the present, were non-architects or foreign nationals.

In 1898, the AIA returned to a two-tier membership system of Fellows and Associates, with significant requirements for election to Fellowship and the final decision left to the AIA Board of Directors. It is from this point forward that designation as a Fellow is considered a formal honor. Beginning in 1922, Fellows were elected by a Jury of Fellows, then nominated by the President, and now by the Secretary. In 1952 the present College of Fellows was established to formally represent Fellows within the larger organization.

Notable Fellows
Architects recognized with FAIA include: • Max Abramovitz

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy Foreman

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Speedy delete. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:55, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Andy Foreman
Notability not established. A probable vanity. I reverted blanking of the page added. —  F REAK OF N URxTURE  ( TALK )  05:17, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Though, Andy may be a stud. DavidH 05:50, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, vanity. --Angr/undefined 07:35, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete non notable vanity. JamesBurns 09:26, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:VfD renomination limits

Based on what I noticed with the articles Gay Nigger Association of America, Maps of Korea and Comunleng, there has been discussion on how many times an article should be placed at WP:VFD, or the pace of the VFD. I wish to propose a simple policy: have a three one month policy on waiting for renomination, unless the content of the article has changed significantly or the vote was inconclusive (closed without consensus) or rigged.

Current guidance can be seen at Guide_to_Votes_for_deletion. 'Voting' options are offered below. Note however, that as this a new proposal, and still under discussion, that this poll is informal in nature for the time being.

Support

 * 1) Zscout370 (Sound Off) 05:20, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Ta bu shi da yu 05:23, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 3)  ∞ Who ? ¿ ?  05:35, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Makes sense. Sasquatch′↔Talk↔Contributions 07:31, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) There are other reasons why an article may be re-nominated before three months are up: see Votes for deletion/Maps of Korea/Old and Votes for deletion/Maps of Korea for a case where it was reasonable to re-nominate an article less than 15 hours after the previous VfD was closed. --Carnildo 05:56, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * That is where the "unless the content of the article has changed significantly or the vote was inconclusive or rigged" clause comes in. If there is very good and very valid reasons to get rid of the article, then by all means, you can under this clause. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 07:12, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Strong oppose. This is instruction creep. Articles are very rarely renominated for VFD, and if they are, it is usually in good faith. If an article is renominated too soon, people will simply vote "keep" because of the recent previous VFD. Also, sometimes VFD nominations are relisted because to allow them to get more attention (e.g. 2-3 votes and no consensus), and this proposal doesn't allow for that. Radiant_ >|< 08:58, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) In light of instruction creep, I have to agree with Radiant.  ∞ Who ? ¿ ?  10:05, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Absolutely oppose, and express distaste at yet another unnecessary jump to a poll. Some sort of moratorium, perhaps, but 3 months? No way. -Splash 20:36, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Discussion?
Before being put to any kind of vote, this proposal should be discussed first. don't vote on everything. Radiant_ >|< 08:58, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Radiant is precisely correct. To go to a vote instantaneously, with language implying it will remain open until we get the answer 'right' is wrong. -Splash 20:38, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I have WP:BOLDLY reworded the parts relating to voting. -Splash 20:54, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Comment
What does "inconclusive" mean? Most controversial VfD's (those that are likely to get re-listed) result in keep by default, not in a 70-80 % keep vote. This term needs to be clarified. — David Remahl It needs to be stated through what means it will be determined as to 'unless the content of the article has changed significantly'. Will we have to have another section or something to deal with whether there has been significant change to the article or will the article go to VfD and deleted by an admin if the content hasn't changed? I like the proposal. DarthVader 13:44, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, inconclusive is a word that came in my mind at the time. It should read "if the VFD vote was inconclusive, or closed without a consensus." Zscout370 (Sound Off) 07:34, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * We will, I just need to see if people like this idea. Some say it is instruction keep, I am just trying to solve a problem. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 18:32, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Fixing problems is always good, so please don't take my disagreement with this proposal as personal. However, before attempting to solve a problem, please check if there actually is a problem. How often does it occur that an article is relisted on VFD? How often is it relisted for a third time? What is the average timespan between relistings? Please read some VFD archives for evidence to back up your claim that there is a problem. Radiant_ >|< 18:41, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Scroll to the top and you see three articles linked. We all know about the GNAA, and the above two have recently been on VFD. People were complaining about the Comelang article being put up on VFD a month after it was "kept," and the Map of Korea article is an example on why articles could be VFD'ed after they were kept (with good reasoning). Zscout370 (Sound Off) 18:47, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I got that part. But as far as I can tell, that makes three articles in the past month (maybe longer than that, and given the circumstances we shouldn't really count GNAA for the rule). Consider that we get over a hundred nominations daily, then it follows that less than one in a thousand VFD nominations is in fact a renomination. Radiant_ >|< 19:51, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Well in fact, I just realised that if an article had been listed on VfD less than 3 months ago, if this is pointed out then the admin could immediately remove the VfD listing. DarthVader 23:31, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

 * My most serious objection to this is the length of the moratorium. Three months is a long wikitime. I might be persuadeable to something like 1 month, but no longer. The deletion processes work in minutes (speedy/VfD noms) and days (VfD/VfU), so weeks seems like a more appropriate order for things. Also, a mere 3 articles in, approximately, 600,000 isn't really a problem. With 100 articles a day in VfD as Radiant! says, we barely notice them. Given that we only work on "rough consensus" with some votes routinely discounted in VfD there's no useful way to quantify this policy. Whilst I like WP:FAITH it is not beyond imagining that a sneaky admin could close a VfD as no consensus (when really there was a rough consensus to keep), just so that they can bring it back to VfD again soon. In fact, and John Does can close a VfD as a keep, even though the rules advise to do so only in near unanimous keep-cases. My more minor objection is to the process of leaping to an evil poll with zero discussion. The language also implies that this runs and runs until you get consensus on the proposal. I'm going to be WP:BOLD and rephrase it. -Splash 20:48, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * And that is perfectly fine: if you think the wording is bad, by all means change it. Also, if you wish for the time frame to be a month, that is fine with me too. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 22:12, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * There seems to be a few objections due to Instruction Creep. I believe it isn't. An admin can remove a VfD listing if someone points out that the last one was less than 3 months ago. This is not much work for an admin. DarthVader 23:35, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * By instruction creep, I don't mean that the policy would create more work for admins. Rather, it would create more procedures that should be complied with, and that would rarely apply to anything, and that would give people more chance to argue on the policy or principle, rather than on the article content. Plus, any strict line is gamable. Radiant_ >|< 07:39, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * I am trying to make sure people will be happy with this idea. I shortend the time from 3 months to 1, and either myself or others need to come up with "what consitutues a major change." The Map of Korea VFD is a perfect example of a "major change." Zscout370 (Sound Off) 07:42, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

There should be no minimum. Instead there should be a note in the deletion policy that says
 * Before suggesting a page for deletion, please check whether it has been nominated before. If it has, please only renominate the article if a new debate would cover new ground (e.g. the article has substantially changed or new information about the topic has come to light). Do not re-nominate an article simply because the vote didn't go your way last time.

I'd be amazed if the policy doesn't already say something a lot like this. It is, after all, common sense. Pcb21| Pete 11:51, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * If you just want to set that up, then thats cool with me. I know some want a one month limit for renomination, which is a good time to figure out what needs to be fixed. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 17:07, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:The Desert Sessions

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All of the information that I have placed on this band's page is directly from the liner notes of the records that I own. Joshuah Hounshell 21:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Collaborating Artist List
First, thanks to User:Joshuah_Hounshell for all the recent edits. I think the article might be improved if each band was only wikilinked once per section, and that each artist had his/her projects listed once also. Unless there are objections, I'll go ahead with these propositions. Skomorokh 21:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

The only reason I would object is that the way I did it makes it easy for someone to cross-reference other groups that a collaborating artist has been involved with. Your way will still list each "other band", but not link them? Joshuah Hounshell 21:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * My point is it's redundant and annoying (no offence) to see "*Josh Homme (Queens Of The Stone Age, Kyuss, Eagles Of Death Metal)" at the top of each section. By the time a viewer has read the first volume, they will be familiar with Homme's projects. I'm not sure whether it's best to replace it with "* Josh Homme (Queens Of The Stone Age, Kyuss, Eagles Of Death Metal)" or simply "* Josh Homme" though. Thoughts?Skomorokh 21:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

How about the table I implemented? -- Reaper  X  21:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * A clever solution, perhaps the artist names could be in regular rather than bold though? I still think it's unecessary to keep wikilinking e.g. Queens of the Stone Age for every artist, especially now the space is being used more efficiently.Skomorokh

I think it looks great Reaper X, I think the wikilinks should stay as well. Wiki is all about referencing, it's not redundant if someone is following along Josh Homme in the table to click QOTSA but decides to keep reading and decides to click QOTSA at Troy Van Leeuwen. See what I mean? Joshuah Hounshell 04:16, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your position that Wikipedia is all about linking, but the Wikipedia Manual of Style directive on internal linking states that link duplication should be used in a new paragraph or subsection, and that the same article should not be linked twice on the same screen, a guidline which article clearly violates.Skomorokh 13:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Holy shit dude, you know how often the policy on overlinking is violated right? I agree with Hounshell on this one, and I say leave it unless either this article shoots for GA status, or someone else comes along and changes it. -- Reaper  X  20:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Hahahahaha. For real, Reaper. I agree, leave it alone. Joshuah Hounshell 16:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, just spotted this. The fact that a rule is often violated is of absolutely no support to the proposition that it should be violated here. "Everyone breaks it so we should break it" is entirely illogical (not suggesting this is your argument). I think the proliferation of links is redundant, but I agree to leave it for the moment since you both have made worthy improvements to the article and there is no consensus. Skomorokh  incite  18:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Original 10" Vinyl Releases
I am in the process of scanning high quality scans of the cover art from each release and will update the article thusly when completed. Joshuah Hounshell 21:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I have added pages for Volume 4: Hard Walls And Little Trips; Volume 5: Poetry For The Masses (Sea Shed Shit Head By The She Sore) & Volume 6: Poetry For The Masses (Black Anvil Ego) Joshuah Hounshell 04:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Coupled Volumes 7 & 8 and Volumes 9 & 10 into one link each for ease and continuity. Joshuah Hounshell 04:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Current Edits (General)
I added an infobox and photo from desertsessions.com. I also formatted the intro paragraph a bit. Joshuah Hounshell 22:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Your image was deleted, but I've uploaded another with hopefully stronger fair use rationale. If anyone knows of a source of free images from the Rancho, it would really help out. Skomorokh  incite  18:33, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

volume 11-12
Is someone able to confirm this??, cant find refrence or official word for this anywhere on the net  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.35.135.136 (talk) 03:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

songs re-released on other albums
could there be a section on songs from desert sessions that have gone on to feature on the contributors albums

e.g. "Like a Drug" was re-recorded for Lullabies to Paralyse by QOTSA and "I'm Dead" was re-recorded and renamed as "Day I Die" for A Drug Problem That Never Existed by Mondo Generator.

Also: Avon Monsters in the Parasol Jr. High Love You think I aint worth a dollar but I feel like a millionaire hanging tree i wanna make it wit chu in my head... or something

There may be more. I will do it if someone could show me how to present it in a nice table. cheers

Ballchef (talk) 03:01, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

 * Ah ha! I just noticed that A lot of these tracks are mentioned on the individual album pages as being re-recorded. Still it wouldn't hurt to have a table of information on here Ballchef (talk) 03:10, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

External links modified
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Page merges
I think it may be best to merge the EPs with their matching compilation album. Given how little info is on each page and how each version of the release is basically the same I don't really see how this is not an improvement meant. NDLSS (talk) 02:29, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

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Out to Lunch

Out to Lunch may refer to:

 * Out to Lunch!, a 1964 album by Eric Dolphy
 * Out to Lunch (album), a 1994 album by Mainesthai
 * Out to Lunch (TV program), a 1974 ABC special
 * Out to Lunch (video game), a multi-platform action video game created by Mindscape
 * "Out to Lunch", a poem in the Conductors of Chaos poetry anthology
 * "Out To Lunch", a song by Krokus from The Blitz
 * "Out to Lunch", a column by South African writer David Bullard

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Flat Shoals, North Carolina

Flat Shoals is a small unincorporated community in Stokes County, North Carolina, United States, approximately four miles southwest of county seat Danbury, near Hanging Rock State Park.

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Ursari

The Ursari (generally read as "bear leaders" or "bear handlers"; from the urs, meaning "bear"; singular: ursar; Bulgarian: урсари, ursari) or Richinara are the traditionally nomadic occupational group of animal trainers among the Romani people.

An endogamous category originally drawing the bulk of its income from busking performances in which they used dancing bears, usually brown bears and, in several instances, Old world monkeys. They have largely become settled after the 1850s. The Ursari form an important part of the Roma community in Romania, where they are one of the 40 tribal groups, as well as notable segments of the Bulgarian Roma population and of the one in Moldova. They also form a sizable part of the Roma present in Serbia and in Western European countries such as the Netherlands and Italy.

The word Ursari may also refer to a dialect of Balkan Romani, as spoken in Romania and Moldova, although it is estimated that most Ursari, like the Boyash, speak Romanian as their native language. There is no scholarly consensus on whether Ursari belong to the Sinti subgroup of the Roma people or to the other half of the Roma population. A Romanian poll conducted in 2004 among 347 Roma found that 150 referred to themselves as "Ursari" (or 43.2%, and the largest single group).

The Romanian-speaking Roma bear or monkey handlers in Bulgaria, called mechkari (мечкари), maymunari, or ursari, are occasionally seen as a separate community or as a distinct part of the Boyash population, as are persons identified as Ursari in Italy. The Coşniţari (or koshnichari) group, present on both sides of the Danube (in both Romania and Bulgaria), is believed to be a segment of the Ursari. Other such Eastern European groups, although linked by profession, speak different languages and dialects, and are considered to be not a part of the Ursari; they include the Medvedara in Greece, Ričkara in Slovakia, The Muslim Arixhinj in Albania and the Muslim Ayjides in the Istanbul area of Turkey.

Early migrations and slavery
Groups of bear-handlers are known to have existed during the population's transit through the Byzantine Empire, as early as the 12th century, when they are mentioned in connection with the Athinganoi (Roma people) by Theodore Balsamon. In later decades, they were probably among the people collectively referred to as "Egyptians".

The Ursari formed part of the slave population in the Danubian Principalities (Moldavia and Wallachia) before the abolitions of the 1840s and 1850s. With the Boyash (including the gold-prospecting Zlătari), the Kalderash, and groups of Roma smiths, Ursari formed the category of lăieşi, who, unlike vătraşi slaves, were allowed to carry on with a nomadic lifestyle (being required by their boyar masters to pay various benefits in exchange for the permission).

By the early decades of the 19th century, most of the state-owned Roma were lăieşi, as opposed to private-owned ones. The lăieşi were required to contribute an annual sum to the treasuries of Wallachia and Moldavia; Édouard Antoine Thouvenel, a French diplomat who visited Wallachia during the period, indicated that, for Ursari families, this sum amounted to between twenty and thirty piasters, and it is documented that the Boyash and the Ursari paid equivalent fees.

Like other nomadic Roma, Ursari are known to have travelled in large tribal groups during the 20th century, although other sources indicate that they preferred to organize themselves on a tight and selective family-based structure. Ursari people and the Boyash-proper traditionally accompanied the Kalderash on their travels to Rumelia, contributing to the birth of the Mechkara community.

Thouvenel described the group's "miserable condition", and, in reference to their handling of brown bears, wrote: "[...] they reunite to give chase to [the bears], whom they domesticate after capturing them in their youth, or whom they render unable to harm them. Bears in the Carpathians are, after all, much smaller and of a less ferocious nature than those in the Nord; their leaders train them with relative ease and run around from village to village in order to collect a few para as a result of peasant curiosity".

Also according to Thouvenel, Ursari were known for "veterinary skills", which, he argued, "the superstition of people in the countryside attributes to the possession of a magic art". In addition to bear handling, the community would occasionally trade in wild animals (specifically bear cubs), and was known for keeping and training monkeys. Female members of the community were known for their practice of fortune-telling.

Emancipation
Speaking during the late 1880s, the historian and politician Mihail Kogălniceanu, who was responsible for the 1855 abolition of slavery in Moldavia under Prince Grigore Alexandru Ghica, claimed that: "aside from the [other] lăieşi Gypsies, who still live in part in Gypsy camps, and Ursari, who are presently working in the taming of wild beasts, but are nevertheless involved in working the land, almost all of the other classes of Gypsies have blended into the larger mass of the nation, and are only told apart by their swarthy and Asian-like faces and the vividness of their imagination".

Following the creation of a Romanian Principality, Ursari nonetheless remained a presence associated with busking and fairs, especially with those held in Bucharest and provincial cities such as Bacău. As early as the rule of Domnitor Alexandru Ioan Cuza, they formed a staple of such spectacles, alongside the music-playing Lăutari, the Călușari, and freak shows. At around the same time, they included a section of zavragii, smiths who worked as day laborers. Also during the late 19th century, the Ursari came to be attested in Imperial Russian-ruled Bessarabia, where the local population referred to them and to the lăieși in general as șătrași ("people living on campsites").

Sometime after 1850, groups of Ursari, Kalderash and Lovari, most likely coming from Austro-Hungarian regions and Bosnia, moved westwards, and were mentioned for the first time as present in the North Brabant and other areas in the Netherlands (where their descendants still live). A similar move originated in Serbia, around Kragujevac, with Boyash and Ursari moving into northern and central Italy. In the Netherlands, central authorities reacted vehemently to the presence of Roma, labeling Ursari and the others with the loaded term "Gypsies"; the reaction of local authorities was more calm, and allowed Ursari to blend into Dutch society, even though most members of the latter community intended to settle in other areas.

Before and after the Porajmos
In time, a significant number of Ursari joined circuses, while many others began manufacturing and trading bone objects and leather (as, respectively, Pieptănari and Ciurari), or associating with the Lăutari. The bears were taught to make dancing moves to a tambourine,  or trained to walk upright and perform tricks such as leaning on canes and rolling over. The use of iron rods and nose rings in the taming process, as well as other such practices, rose attention from animal welfare advocates, and have been the subject of criticism from as early as the 1920s, when Germany forbade the Ursari's trade. It has been reported that bear training involved burning the paws of cubs to the rhythm of music.

During the early stages of World War II, as part of the repressive measures ordered by the Iron Guard, the Minister of the Interior of the Romanian Legionary Government, Constantin Petrovicescu, passed an order preventing Ursari from performing with bears in cities, towns, or villages. The official explanation for the measure was that such patterns of movement were helping to spread typhus. Over the following years, under Ion Antonescu's regime, members of the Ursari community were among the Roma people deported to Transnistria, as part of Romania's share in the Holocaust (see also Romania during World War II and Porajmos).

After World War II, interdictions on performing with bears were legislated throughout the Eastern Bloc. In Communist Romania, large groups of Ursari performers were prevented from entering cities, and, under both Gheorghe Gheorghiu-Dej and Nicolae Ceaușescu, nomadic Roma were subject to settlement policies (many were reportedly resettled as early as their return from Transnistria).

Post-Communism
In April–June 1991, following the Revolution of 1989, Ursari in several localities of Romania's Giurgiu County — Bolintin Deal, Ogrezeni and Bolintin Vale — were the target of ethnic violence. Ursari people were chased away, and many of their lodgings were burned to the ground. In Bolintin Deal, where the first such actions took place, this came in retaliation for the murder of a Romanian student, Cristian Melinte, by a young Ursar hitchhiker who was later sentenced to 20 years in prison.

The arsons were carried out by large groups of local inhabitants, who, according to American author Isabel Fonseca, acted methodically (they are alleged to have cut down the electrical wires leading to each Ursari house, so that the fire would be contained). In Ogrezeni, inter-communal violence was caused by the stabbing of a Romanian during a bar fight. In contrast, the violent acts in Bolintin Vale were unprovoked, and probably came as an effect of the Ogrezeni incident.

Commentators have attributed these outbursts to the failure of settlement measures, with the perception that former nomads were among the privileged class during Communist times. It was reported that many Romanians in Bolintin Deal believed the Ursari were stealing property and even, in Fonseca's account, that they had been organizing photo ops for Ceauşescu.

At the same time, criminal acts among the Ursari have been independently reported: among the Roma present in Bolintin Deal, the largely unemployed Ursari were not fully integrated; it was indicated that houses of non-Ursari Roma were not targeted during the 1991 events, and that, of the 27 criminal files instrumented in Bolintin between 1989 and 1991, 18 implicated Ursari people (with similar ratios in Ogrezeni). It was also noted that the Bolintin Deal and Bolintin Vale mobs comprised not only Romanians, but also Roma belonging to traditionally settled communities.

Romanian Police was criticized for its failure to intervene and prevent violence, despite being made aware of the potential for conflict — in Bolintin Deal, 22 out of 26 Ursari houses were burned before the Jandarmeria and fire service dispersed the mob. However, in Ogrezeni and Bolintin Vale, Police forces were themselves faced with violence from the mob, after allegations that they had vested interest in supporting the Roma community at large; in Ogrezeni, 13 or 14 out of 15 Ursari houses were set on fire, and 11 were devastated in Bolintin Vale.

All members of the Ursari community in Bolintin Deal settled in either Bucharest or Giurgiu, many of them after selling their plots of land; a group attempted to return in May 1991, but was chased away by the locals. Reportedly, authorities informed the Ursari that they had better to run away. By 2005, several Ursari who had taken residence in Bucharest Sector 4 requested to be issued deeds for formerly state-owned land in Bolintin Deal, which was then being allocated to residents; the local authorities denied their request, arguing that ownership of the land in question was still subject to dispute, and indicating that the Ursari could purchase other plots if they chose to do so.

Ursari were a seasonal presence on the Black Sea Coast under the Bulgarian Communist regime. Though much rarer, bear leading is still practiced by nomadic groups of Ursari in various areas of Eastern Europe.

Identity
The Ursari are among the groups of Roma to practice endogamy, alongside the Kalderash, the Lovari and the Gabori;  many Mechkara believe refer to themselves as "Vlachs" or "Romanians", and tend to consider themselves distinct from other Roma. For the Ursari community at large, the rules upheld specifically prevent sexual contact with the gadjo and favor arranged marriages, but seem to have allowed for intermarriage inside the Boyash community at large. They are also among the few Roma groups to allow the marriage of young teenagers, although this custom is falling out of use.

Eastern Orthodox by tradition (belonging to either the Romanian Orthodox or Bulgarian Orthodox churches), many Ursari are adhering to Protestant movements such as Pentecostalism. The Ursari in Serbia and Italy are members of the Serbian Orthodox Church. Days of the calendar traditionally upheld as holidays by the Ursari include February 1, the first day of fair seasons, and the Orthodox Calendar November 30 feast of Saint Andrew (whom the Ursari people regard as a patron saint). In the early first decade of the 21st century, the New Testament was being translated into the Ursari form of the Balkan Romani language.

Ursari and bears
As an aspect of their trade, the Ursari have established and encouraged various folk beliefs and customs involving the bear; these include displaying bears in the courtyards of village houses as a means to protect livestock from attack by smaller wild animals, and călcătura ursului ("the bear step") or călcătura lui Moş Martin ("Old Boy Martin's step", based on a common nickname for the animal), which involves allowing bears to tread on a person's back (in the belief that it can ensure the fertility of young people or chase away evil spirits).

The latter custom was very popular among Romanians, who viewed it as a folk remedy for back pain; welcoming Ursari into one's household to perform the task formed part of a string of events leading to the celebration of Easter, or part of customs ushering in Christmas and the New Year's Eve.

Among the members of the Ursari community who manufactured objects of bone, it became widespread to treat the material with bear fat, a luxury good which, they believed, helped make the products in question more durable. The fat was also being sold to Romanians as medicine to combat rheumatism and skeletal disorders, together with bear hairs that were a popular amulet.

The practices associated with bear training have again been the focus of animal welfare groups ever since the 1990s, and were subject to an adverse campaign in The International Herald Tribune. While noting the use of crude methods of training, Isabel Fonseca, who visited the Ursari in places such as Bolintin Deal and Stara Zagora Province, argued that, as the main bread-winners for Ursari families, bears were also the recipients of care, attention, and proper feeding.

Several artists have portrayed Romani bear trainers and their animals in their work. Among them are the Romanian painter and graphic artist Theodor Aman and the American sculptor Paul Wayland Bartlett (whose 1888 Bohemian Bear Tamer bronze is on display at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City).

Music
While, ever since the 1850s, many Ursari musicians have contributed to Lăutari culture to the point where they have grown separated from their original environment, traditional Ursari music survived as a separate genre; fused with electronic music, was popularized in early 21st century Romania by the Shukar Collective project.

A chant used by Ursari trainers has passed into Romanian folklore as a nursery rhyme. It includes the lyrics:

A longer version of it was still being sung by the Ursari in Bacău County by 2007:

Belarusian rock-band Hair Peace Salon dedicated its song "Gypsy" from the album Split Before, Together Now to all "gypsies and bears."

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Roy Brown (blues musician)

Roy James Brown (September 10, 1920 or 1925 – May 25, 1981) was an American blues singer who had a significant influence on the early development of rock and roll and the direction of R&B. His original song and hit recording "Good Rockin' Tonight" has been covered by many artists including Wynonie Harris, Elvis Presley, Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, Joe Ely, Ricky Nelson, Jerry Lee Lewis, Pat Boone, James Brown, the Doors, and the rock group Montrose. Brown was one of the first popular R&B singers to perform songs with a gospel-steeped delivery, which was then considered taboo by many churches. In addition, his melismatic, pleading vocal style influenced notable artists such as B.B. King, Bobby Bland, Elvis Presley, Jackie Wilson, James Brown and Little Richard.

Early life and education
Brown was born in Kinder, Louisiana. Some sources report his birth date as September 10, 1925, but the researchers Bob Eagle and Eric LeBlanc gave the date as September 10, 1920, on the basis of information in the 1930 census and Social Security records, and stated that 1925 is incorrect. Media reports state that he was either 55 or 56 at the time of his death.

Like many R&B singers, Brown started singing gospel music in church. His mother was an accomplished singer and church organist. He moved to Los Angeles in the 1940s and for a short time was a professional boxer in the welterweight division. In 1945 he won a singing contest at the Million Dollar Theater, covering "There's No You", originally recorded by Bing Crosby. In 1946, Brown moved to Galveston, Texas, where he sang in Joe Coleman's group, performing mostly songs from the Hit Parade, in a nightclub called the Club Granada. His repertoire included "Good Rockin' Tonight".

After being rejected by the armed forces because of flat feet, Brown secured his first major job in a club in Shreveport, Louisiana, singing mostly pop ballads, such as "Stardust" and "There's No You". The owner of Bill Riley's Palace Park hired him, as Brown told an interviewer for Blues Unlimited, because of his appeal as "a Negro singer who sounds white." It was at the Palace Park that Brown started developing a blues repertoire, learning contemporary R&B tunes such as "Jelly Jelly" (recorded by Billy Eckstine). He returned to New Orleans in 1947, where he performed at the Dew Drop Inn.

Career
Brown was a fan of blues singer Wynonie Harris. When Harris appeared in town, Brown tried but failed to interest him in listening to "Good Rockin' Tonight". Brown then approached another blues singer, Cecil Gant, who was performing at another club in town. Brown introduced his song, and Gant had him sing it over the telephone to the president of De Luxe Records, Jules Braun, reportedly at 4:00 in the morning. Brown was signed to a recording contract immediately. He recorded the song in a jump blues style with a swing beat. It was released in 1948 and reached number 13 on the Billboard R&B chart. Ironically, Harris recorded a cover version of the song, and his version rose to the top of the Billboard R&B chart later in 1948. Presley also covered the song for Sun Records in 1954; it was re-released by RCA Victor when his recording contract was sold to that label in 1956. According to the Paul McCartney Project, "the song has also been credited with being the most successful record to that point to use the word 'rock' not as a euphemism for sex, but as a descriptive for the musical style.

Brown continued to make his mark on the R&B charts, having 14 hits for De Luxe from mid-1948 to late 1951, including the million-selling, "Hard Luck Blues" (1950, his biggest seller), "Love Don't Love Nobody", "Rockin' at Midnight", "Boogie at Midnight", "Miss Fanny Brown", and "Cadillac Baby", making him, along with Harris, one of the top R&B performers in those three years. One source suggests that Brown was the "best selling R&B artist from 1949-51". Another states that during 1948–51, "he had 15 records on the charts". A third source adds that Brown "chalked up a dozen top 10s".

After his popularity had peaked, Brown began to experience a lull in his career. Doo-wop and R&B groups were quickly gaining popularity as the standard sound of R&B in the early to mid-1950s. His declining fortune coincided with the resolution of a lawsuit against King Records for unpaid royalties in 1952, in which Brown prevailed, one of the few African-American musicians to do so in the 1950s. This coincidence has led some, such as writer Nick Tosches (in his book Unsung Heroes of Rock 'n' Roll, which contains a chapter on Brown) to believe that Brown may have been blacklisted. Brown's other misfortunes included trouble with the Internal Revenue Service. When confronted by the government for unpaid taxes he owed, he approached Elvis Presley for help. Presley wrote him a check on a brown paper bag, but it was not enough to keep Brown out of prison for tax evasion.

In 1951, Brown performed at the seventh famed Cavalcade of Jazz concert held at Wrigley Field in Los Angeles which was produced by Leon Hefflin, Sr. on July 8. Also featured were Lionel Hampton and his Revue, Percy Mayfield, Jimmy Witherspoon, Joe Liggins' Honeydrippers and Billy Eckstine. The following year, June 1, 1952, he performed for the eighth Cavalcade of Jazz concert with His Mighty Men. Also featured that day were Anna Mae Winburn and Her Sweethearts, Jerry Wallace, Toni Harper, Louis Jordan, Jimmy Witherspoon and Josephine Baker. And Brown came back in 1953 to play at the 9th Cavalcade of Jazz on June 7. Also featured that day were, Don Tosti and His Mexican Jazzmen, Earl Bostic, Nat "King" Cole, Shorty Roger's Orchestra, and Louis Armstrong and his All Stars with Velma Middleton,.

Brown had a brief comeback on Imperial Records in 1957. Working with Dave Bartholomew, he returned to the charts with the original version of "Let the Four Winds Blow", co-written with Fats Domino, who would later have a hit with it.

Brown returned to King Records, but his popularity had diminished by 1959. He found sporadic work, performing wherever he was wanted, and he made some recordings through the 1960s. To supplement his income, he sold the rights to "Good Rockin' Tonight". "I was selling door to door," he reminisced, referring to his stint as an encyclopedia salesman.

In 1970, Brown closed The Johnny Otis Show at the Monterey Jazz Festival. As a result of the positive reception by the audience, he recorded "Love for Sale", which became a hit for Mercury Records.

Later life and death
In the late 1970s, a compilation album of his old recordings brought about a minor revival of interest in his music. In 1978, he made a successful tour in Scandinavia following the releases of Laughing but Crying and Good Rockin' Tonight. Shortly before his death he performed at the Whisky a Go Go in West Hollywood, California, and he was a headliner at the New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival in 1981, dying a month later.

According to The Guardian, "in 1952 he attempted to sue his manager for unpaid royalties, but succeeded only in getting himself blackballed from the music industry. He spent much of his life as a door-to-door encyclopedia salesman". In truth, he made a comeback in 1970, performing at the Monterey Jazz Festival; he continued touring for "the rest of the decade", including a tour of Europe in 1978. Brown died of a heart attack on May 25, 1981, at Pacoima Lutheran Memorial Hospital, near his home in the San Fernando Valley. The Reverend Johnny Otis conducted the funeral service.

Years later, Little Richard said that Roy Brown had been one of the artists that inspired him in the early years.

Legacy
Brown was posthumously inducted into the Blues Hall of Fame in 1981.

Two of his songs, "Butcher Pete, Pt. 1" and "Mighty Mighty Man" are featured in the 2008 video game, Fallout 3. "Butcher Pete, Pt. 1", "Butcher Pete, Pt. 2", "Good Rockin' Tonight", and "Mighty Mighty Man" are featured in the 2015 sequel, Fallout 4. There is a quest named after his song "Hard Luck Blues" in the video game Fallout: New Vegas.

Original 10" shellac (78-rpm) and 7" vinyl (45-rpm) releases

 * Gold Star 636, "Deep Sea Diver" / "Bye Baby Bye", 1947
 * DeLuxe 1093, "Good Rockin Tonight" / "Lolly Pop Mama", 1947
 * DeLuxe 1098, "Special Lesson No. 1" / "Woman's a Wonderful Thing", 1947
 * DeLuxe 1107, "Roy Brown Boogie" / "Please Don't Go (Come Back Baby)", 1947
 * DeLuxe 1128, "Mighty Mighty Man" / "Miss Fanny Brown", 1947
 * DeLuxe 1154, "Long About Midnight" / "Whose Hat Is That", 1948
 * DeLuxe 1166, "All My Love Belongs to You" / "Ebony Rhapsody" (B-side by Ethel Morris), 1948
 * DeLuxe 3093, "Good Rockin' Tonight" / "Lolly Pop Mama" (reissue), 1950 (also issued as Miltone 3093)
 * DeLuxe 3098, "Special Lesson No. 1" / "Woman's a Wonderful Thing" (reissue), 1950
 * DeLuxe 3107, "Roy Brown Boogie" / "Please Don't Go (Come Back Baby)" (reissue), 1950
 * DeLuxe 3128, "Mighty Mighty Man" / "Miss Fanny Brown" (reissue), 1950
 * DeLuxe 3154, "Long About Midnight" / "Whose Hat Is That" (reissue), 1950 (also issued as Miltone 3154)
 * DeLuxe 3166, "All My Love Belongs to You" / "Ebony Rhapsody" (B-side by Ethel Morris) (reissue), 1950
 * DeLuxe 3189, "Miss Fanny Brown Returns" / "Roy Brown Boogie", 1948
 * DeLuxe 3198, "Fore Day in the Morning" / "Rainy Weather Blues", 1948 (also issued as Miltone 3198)
 * DeLuxe 3212, "Rockin' at Midnight" / "Judgement Day Blues", 1949
 * DeLuxe 3226, "Please Don't Go (Come Back Baby)" / "Riding High", 1949
 * DeLuxe 3300, "Boogie at Midnight" / "The Blues Got Me Again", 1949
 * DeLuxe 3301, "Butcher Pete, Part 1" / "Butcher Pete, Part 2", 1949
 * DeLuxe 3302, "I Feel That Young Man's Rhythm" / "End of My Journey" 1949
 * DeLuxe 3304, "Hard Luck Blues" / "New Rebecca" 1950
 * DeLuxe 3306, "Dreaming Blues" / "Love Don't Love Nobody", 1950
 * DeLuxe 3308, "Long About Sundown" / "Cadillac Baby", 1950
 * DeLuxe 3311, "Double Crossin' Woman" / "Teen Age Jamboree", 1951
 * DeLuxe 3312, "Sweet Peach" / "Good Man Blues", 1951
 * DeLuxe 3313, "Beautician Blues" / "Wrong Woman Blues", 1951
 * DeLuxe 3318, "Train Time Blues" / "Big Town", 1951
 * DeLuxe 3319, "Bar Room Blues" / "Good Rockin' Man", 1951
 * DeLuxe 3323, "Brown Angel" / "I've Got the Last Laugh Now", 1952
 * King 4602, "Hurry Hurry Baby" / "Travelin' Man", 1953
 * King 4609. "Grandpa Stole My Baby" / "Money Can't Buy Love", 1953
 * King 4627, "Mr. Hound Dog's in Town" / "Gamblin' Man", 1953
 * King 4637, "Old Age Boogie, Part 1" / "Old Age Boogie, Part 2", 1953
 * King 4654, "Laughing but Crying" / "Crazy Crazy Women", 1953
 * King 4669, "Caldonia's Wedding Day" / "A Fool in Love", 1953
 * King 4684, "Midnight Lover Man" / "Letter from Home", 1953
 * King 4689, "Everything's Alright" / "Lonesome Lover", 1953
 * King 4704, "Bootleggin' Baby" / "Trouble at Midnight", 1954
 * King 4715, "Up Jumped the Devil" / "This Is My Last Goodbye", 1954
 * King 4722, "Don't Let It Rain" / "No Love at All", 1954
 * King 4731, "Ain't It a Shame" / "Gal from Kokomo", 1954
 * King 4743, "Worried Life Blues" / "Black Diamond", 1954
 * King 4761, "Fannie Brown Got Married" / "Queen of Diamonds", 1954
 * King 4816, "Shake 'Em Up Baby" / "Letter to Baby", 1955
 * King 4834, "She's Gone Too Long" / "My Little Angel Child", 1955
 * Imperial 5422, "Saturday Night (That's My Night)" / "Everybody", 1956
 * Imperial 5427, "Party Doll" / "I'm Stickin' with You", 1957
 * Imperial 5439, "Let the Four Winds Blow" / "Diddy-Y-Diddy-O", 1957
 * Imperial 5455, "I'm Convicted of Love" / "I'm Ready to Play", 1957
 * Imperial 5469, "The Tick of the Clock" / "Slow Down Little Eva", 1957
 * Imperial 5489, "Ain't Gonna Do It" / "Sail on Little Girl", 1958
 * Imperial 5510, "Hip Shakin' Baby" / "Be My Love Tonight", 1958
 * Imperial 5969, "Let the Four Winds Blow" / "Diddy-Yi-Diddy-Yo" (reissue), 1963
 * King 5178, "La-Dee-Dah-Dee" / "Melinda", 1959
 * King 5207, "Rinky Dinky Doo" / "I Never Had It So Good", 1959
 * King 5218, "Good Looking and Foxy Too" / "Hard Luck Blues, 1959
 * King 5247, "School Bell Rock" / "Ain't No Rocking No More", 1959
 * King 5333, "Ain't Got No Blues Today" / "Adorable One", 1960
 * King 5521, "Mighty Mighty Man" / "Good Man Blues", 1962
 * Home of the Blues 107, "A Man with the Blues" / "Don't Break My Heart", 1960
 * Home of the Blues 110, "Rocking All the Time" / "Tired of Being Alone", 1960
 * Home of the Blues 115, "Sugar Baby" / "Oh So Wonderful", 1961
 * Home of the Blues 122, "Rock and Roll Jamboree" / "I Need a Friend", 1961
 * Dra 321, "Goliath" / "Stop the Twist", 1962
 * Summit 1001, "She's Alright" / "Let the Four Winds Blow", 1963
 * ABC-Bluesway 61002, "New Orleans Women" / "Standing on Broadway (Watching the Girls)", 1967
 * Gert 11123, "Baby It's Love" / "Going Home" 1968
 * Gert 400, "The Message" / "Great Casaboo", 1968
 * Tru-Love 448, "Good Sweet Loving" / "Separation Blues", 1968
 * Tru-Love 449, "I'm Making Love" / "Rocks Is My Pillow", 1968
 * Connie 303/304, "Young Blood Twist" / "I Love a Woman ", 1969
 * Friendship 701, "It's My Fault Darling" / "Love for Sale", 1970
 * Mercury 73166, "Love for Sale" / "It's My Fault Darling" (reissue), 1970
 * Mercury 73219, "Hunky Funky Woman" / "Mail Man Blues", 1971
 * Mobile Fidelity Productions MFP-2, "in the Eyes of My People" / "You've Got a Friend", 1972
 * Topflight 103, "Hard Times" / "Separation Blues", 19??

LP releases of note

 * King 536, Rock 'n' Roll Dance Party, various artists (including Brown), 1956
 * King 607, Battle of the Blues, album shared with Wynonie Harris, 1958
 * King 627, Battle of the Blues, Volume 2, album shared with Wynonie Harris 1959
 * King 668, Battle of the Blues, Volume 4, album shared with Eddie Cleanhead Vinson and Wynonie Harris, 1959
 * King 956, Roy Brown Sings 24 Hits, 2-LP set, 1966
 * ABC-Bluesway BLS-6019, The Blues Are All Brown, 1968
 * ABC-Bluesway BLS-6056, Hard Times: The Classic Blues of Roy Brown, 1973, same as BLS-6019
 * King KS-1130, Hard Luck Blues, 1976
 * Gusto GD-5036X, Hard Luck Blues, 2-LP set, 1976
 * Route 66 KIX-2, Laughing but Crying, recorded 1947–1959, released 1977
 * Route 66 KIX-6, Good Rockin' Tonight, recorded 1947–1954, released 1978
 * Friendship RB-701, We Came to Party, 1978
 * Faith 91020, Cheapest Price in Town, 1978
 * Solid Smoke SS-8009, San Francisco Blues Festival, Vol. 1, album shared with Lowell Fulson (one side for each), 1981
 * Mr. R&B 104, Saturday Nite, recorded 1952–1959, released 1984
 * Route 66 KIX-26, I Feel That Young Man's Rhythm, recorded 1947–1955, released 1985
 * Charly CRB-1093, Boogie at Midnight, recorded 1947–1959, released 1985

CD releases of note

 * Ace CHD-459, Mighty Mighty Man!, recorded 1953–1955 and 1959 for King Records, released 1993
 * Rhino 71545, Good Rockin' Tonight: The Best of Roy Brown, recorded 1947–1957, released 1994
 * Capitol-EMI 31743, The Complete Imperial Recordings, recorded 1956–1958 for Imperial Records, released 1995
 * Classics (Blues & Rhythm Series) 5021, The Chronological Roy Brown 1947–1949, released 2002
 * Classics (Blues & Rhythm Series) 5036, The Chronological Roy Brown 1950–1951, released 2002
 * Classics (Blues & Rhythm Series) 5090, The Chronological Roy Brown 1951–1953, released 2004
 * Collectables 2882, Rockin' at Midnight: The Very Best of Roy Brown, recorded 1947–1959, released 2004
 * Ace CHD-1072, Good Rockin' Brown: The King & DeLuxe Acetate Series, recorded 1947 for DeLuxe Records, released 2005
 * Fantastic Voyage FVDD-123, Good Rockin' Man: The Definitive Collection, 2-CD set, recorded 1947–1960, released 2011
 * Jasmine JASMCD-3098, Good Rockin' Tonight: All His Greatest Hits + Selected Singles As & Bs 1947–1958, 2-CD set, released 2018

title: Roy Brown (blues musician)


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Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Matt Giltin

Looks like a typo, the guys name is Gitlin.