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Talk:Lincoln–Douglas debate format

Source
www.lddebate.org just tells you "it works!" .com seems valide, but hasn't been updated in a while and looks out-of-date. I didn't check the other sources out. Someone with more freetime should. --Lophoole 02:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

List of resolutions
Should we start a separate wiki article that is just a list of all of the LD resolutions? That part is starting to get unneccessarily long on the LD page.--199.94.95.138 19:47, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree the list of resolutions really should be put in a separate article. Maybe we should just keep a few resolutions as "samples" Dramma!

Burden of Proof
I deleted those sentences about the affs burden of proof and not needing a case (If anyone has ever won without a case please tell). Negatives must uphold a value in LD debate, and for this they need a construction. The affs burden of proof is to prove that x is acheived by y, the neg must prove that x is not acheived by y, or something better than x is not acheived. Uber nemo 04:33, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

In Overview: it says "...the negative must simply prevent the affirmative from achieving this goal through showing that standard for the round cannot be acheived in a world abiding to the resolution." Can someone more familiar with debating put this into a form that non-debaters can understand? I find it mystifying. Boojum 14:35, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

An editor added:

 * The most common way to negate the resolution is simply to prove that the opposite is true. If the resolution is "abortion is moral," the negative would argue that abortion is not moral. Due to the fact that the negative does not have to prove the whole part of the resolution absolutely false, he or she could argue that abortion is sometimes moral, but since the resolution is an absolute, categorical statement, it is false.  This is known as a "balanced negative."

...balance negs are fairly controversial -- I seem to recall reading an editorial "against balance negatives" in the NFL magazine some years back, which observed that no neg has ever lost a round because they argued against the resolution, but plenty have lost for arguing that they don't have to. Balance negs may be worth mentioning in passing, but they shouldn't be in the 3rd paragraph of the article. jdb ❋ (talk) 00:02, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Cleanup
Honestly people, the policy page is 10x better than the LD page. The LD article is cramped and poorly written. I think the whole thing should be overhauled. Dramma!
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NDR
Is it really necessary to have NDR rankings in here? They lack any real value in explaning what LD is. I propose removing that Lasvegasgamer 05:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * NDR Rankings might not explain how LD is done but they certainly contain information pertaining to the practice. Presumably not everyone who reads the entry is looking for basic information about how the activity works, some could very well be looking for the sort of information NDR supplies. Further, links don't have to include information directly related to explaining the entry. Thats why they're links and not text (we obviously wouldn't list the top ten debaters in the country in the wikipedia entry). I would agree with moving it to the bottom of the list of external links since I don't think the NDR is especially important.--Jsn4 08:47, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Certainly not with the lack of NDR updates here. Issue closed. --Monkus2k 03:18, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Examples as definitions (specifically the "Conceptualizing the debate" section)
It seems to me that if we are going to define things we should try to define them first *without an example*; as it stands now the conceptualizing the debate section makes no sense at all, even with the analogy. If this section is even necessary it should be clarified, otherwise it ought to be deleted. Lasvegasgamer 01:05, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Advertising
Wikipedia is not to be used as advertising.See What Wikipedia is not. While whoever runs LDdebate.net may have a useful guide for students new to the activity, that does not need to be in the intro. Lasvegasgamer 08:09, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Similarly, the podcast section isn't really relevant, as of today the iTunes links deliver nothing, the blog has barely been viewed and the podcast isn't popular. Therefore I am deleting the advertisement. Lasvegasgamer 22:14, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Kritik
Changed critique to kritik. Any objections?

 * Yes. Does anyone actually use this policy-debate technique in L-D? In the Ohio area (at least in my experience), I can't imagine a faster way to lose a round than "kritiking" the resolution. jdb ❋ (talk) 02:25, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

 * All I changed was the word 'critique' to the more common term 'kritik.' And actually,                  policy-crossover has become increasing popular (and succesful) with the most advanced debaters, especially in the national circuit. XAdHominemx 00:27, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Two things: Don't change the page unless you either post before or after you make the changes. The section about alternative forms of LD becoming more in the national circuit popular was important because the local circuit generally catches on to what the national circuit is doing.  Secondly 'LDizzle' has no place in this article.  I'm reverting the page for both those reasons.

 * Um, there's no rule about posting every change you make on the talk page -- that's what the history log is for. Also, you should sign your entries.  (Incidentally, people did use critiques/kritiks fairly often where I debated (Northeast).) Uttaddmb 23:11, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

 * This has become a contoversial section, therefore any changes to the article ought to be discussed here before they are changed, which can be more precise than making revesions afterwords, and prevent senseless reverting/rereverting. Which bring us to another discussion- what is the difference between 'ought to' and should? Just kidding. --XAdHominemx 02:09, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I changed some of the wording which was just confusing and I took out the part about only neg debaters being able to kritik. While Affirmative debaters rarely kririk there is no rule preventing them and there have been critical affirmatives in the past as well.--Jsn4 00:21, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Who deleted the bulk of the altenative LD section? I'm revertig tomorrow unless an explanation is given.  I believe it is the same guy who you reverted for vanalism yesterday, Jsn4.  --XAdHominemx 05:07, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Alternative forms of LD
Someone should write a section discussion the increasing use of theory arguments in LD. The current VBD discussion @ http://www.victorybriefs.net/webs/daily/archives/006182.html should be sufficient reference to construct one. nt November 29, 2005

I am adding the Affirmative strategy of picking a particular part of the resolution to affirm. My team and our policy team call this "parametrics" however I do not know if that is widely accepted. sdevoid October 05, 2005
 * Cite Sources... as you would in the round.  Wikipedia rules. See No original research and Cite sources Rick Boatright 04:05, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Although it is hard to find evidence on most debate theory since they don't publish it like other subjects, I was able to find a debate round where the "partial-affirmation" took place. sdevoid October 05, 2005
 * Of COURSE they publish it. CEDA publishes an academic journal on debate, and there are others.  You're a debater.  Find a library.  :-)  (note, sarcasm.) Rick Boatright 00:06, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * First, Adwait's case probably isnt the best example of parametrics since the case also includes a narrative. Moreover, if someone feel qualified to add something about narrative as an alternative form that would make sense.--Jsn4 00:53, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
 * No offense to the coach above, but I don't think that the so-called "rules" of Wikipedia apply here. I don't think CEDA or the NFL or any other debate organization really is representative enough of what new trends are present in LD. I have never once heard an LD Theory arguement become truth because there was an article written about it somewhere. In keeping with the spirit of the Wikipedia, I think it is best that those judges/coaches/competitors that are seeing new forms of LD arguements become mainstream be allowed to post about them here without having to find some source to cite. In debate lingo: That requirement seems to me to be a huge appeal to a non-existant authority :-). On the other hand, it seems to me that it's a bit ivory-towerish to include any particular debater's case as an example of what a new form of debate is. In keeping with both those points I've deleted the citation of Adwait's case @ the Stanford RR. If someone feels differently, I hope we can get a discussion going here on the talk page...
 * First, try to sign your name when you edit the talk page, its the second button from the right. Second, I sort of agree with you. We shouldn't be extremely concerned if we can't find sources and certainly theory is created by the participants. But after its created its WRITTEN about, thats just true and when it is written- thats a sign of the practices acceptance in the community. There are a TON of articles of kritiking out there. Moreover, if we can't find a journal an archived VBD column, Westman page, or LD-L cite would still be better than nothing. I realize this is a unique situation given that so many of the people posting here could probably be considered experts. But there is still something contraversial about kritiks and they are rarely seen outside the national circuit so we need to have sources to back up these claims. Its not enough for us to just assert it. (In debate speak: We need to spike out "T- No Lit.)--Jsn4 00:13, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
 * First of all, sorry for not signing my name to my above posts, wasn't trying to hide :-). I must say I agree with you that the alternative forms of LD (such as the K, specific affs, etc) section requires some careful handling because it may be so different from most of the debates not going on on the National Circuit. However, I can't say I necessarily see why many believe a source is that necessary. It seems to me that the only thing a source would prove is that the act in question actually happens and is not something simply made up...but I believe that can be handled by the community monitoring system that makes Wikipedia what it is. Other then being unnecessary, I believe there are two problems with citing sources from debate journals (West,VBD or otherwise). First)  Everyone in the LD Community has some sort of belief about the way LD should be. Articles written will almost always have an axe to grind one way or the other. 2nd) As I briefly mentioned in my first post, I think that citing these articles as the way LD is becomes too much of an appeal to a non-existant authority. There's no reason why an author for Victory Briefs or CEDA should be able to say what a part of debate "is" and have that be used as the definitive source for an encyclopedia; in my opinion it is antiethical to what LD as an educational tool stands for and what the Wikipedia is about. Lasvegasgamer 07:22, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
 * In response two the arguments about sourcing being bad: 1. Sure everyone has a different view, sourcing just means that view is prevalent enough that someone wrote it down, very few claims in this article are facts, we qualify nearly everything- that doesn't mean sourcing the qualification is a bad idea. 2. Same thing, no ones appealing to authority here, the question is whether certain practices occur not whether some practices are the way LD ought to be done. For whether or not sources are "necessary" see the no original research policy. Also, there aren't THAT many of us on here- certainly not enough of us to speak conclusively about the rest of the activity. Plus, sources lend ethos to the work. Thats why debaters card analytical arguments. Conclusion: Wikipedia says we have to, it will still benefit the article, and we're not making any unwarranted appeals to authority because we're not making ANY claim as to what is the BEST WAY to do LD.--Jsn4 10:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Summer Institutes
After viewing the intense dicussion of the various institutes here on the Talk page and looking over at the Policy Wiki article, does anyone feel that it might be beneficial to have (at least) an institutes section? Such a page should at least explain what they are and some reasons debaters go to them.
 * I agree, write it. Its a significant part of the culture. My concern below was that people were just using the link section to advertise their companies. So long as its unbiased and accurate- fine with me.--Jsn4 00:21, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Summer Institutes as Links
What is the basis for this? It makes sense to have the Victory Briefs blog (for its role as a cultural focus point) as a link- but not the company homesite. Similarly the NSD link should either be struck or changed so it links directly to a page that provides information regarding LD debate.--Jsn4 00:36, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Anon user just added Dallas Debate. I'm eliminating all of the corporate links and changing the Victory Briefs link to the daily blog.--Jsn4 00:13, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Again, deleting NSD link. If someone things it should be up justify it here. As far as I'm concerned we should either include every institute site or none at all. The Victory Briefs link that is up there is not a link to the institute site but to the popular weblog- thus its inclusion.--Jsn4 06:45, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Tournament Organization
This section seems pretty complete and no link to the policy debate article really is necessary. If anyone feels that something should be over here then they ought to move it. Following with making this page more complete / avoid confusion, it seems we ought to delete the link to the policy debate page.Lasvegasgamer 01:07, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Please check the following over for accuracy, and then post.

 * ===Tournament Organization===
 * In a typical one or two-day tournament, each debater will debate four rounds, two rounds advocating the affirmative side, and two rounds advocating the negative. Longer tournaments typically have five or six preliminary rounds, in which all debaters participate. The top debaters from the first rounds then advance to a single-elimination tournament (sometimes dubbed as "Break-Rounds") to determine the winner of the tournament.

 * In many tournaments, and especially in smaller tournaments, all debaters present have the potential to "hit," or square off against, all other competitors in the tournament. A debate in which each competitor goes against every other one is called a Round Robin. Most LD tournaments are "power-matched" (also called "high-high" or "low-low"). In this system, after each round, the meetings for the next round are decided on the basis that winners meet winners and losers meet losers. Other tournaments are "high-low," or "power-protected," meaning meetings for the next round are winner against loser. A combination of the two involves power-matching win-losses and power-protected speaker points. Still other tournaments use randomized brackets. In "Break Rounds" after the primary 5-to-seven pre-elimination rounds, the top "seed" will "hit" the lowest "seed". "Seeds" are determined by the amount of speaker points awarded by judges in preliminary rounds.

 * At many larger events, tournaments are divided into three catergories: Novice, Junior-Varsity(J-V), and Varsity, and act as 3 separate tournaments with break rounds in each division. Most often in these tournaments, there are requirements set on eligibility to debate as a novice to ensure fair competition in the beginner catergory. The main requirement is that the debator may not have competed in the previous school year. However, if the person only debated a small number of rounds their first year, they may still be eligible to compete as a novice.  Typically, a coach is left to decide who qualifies for J-V and who qualifies for varsity, and is sometimes used as a tactic to ensure a win in the J-V catergory by enrolling a top debator in a J-V to "sweep" the division.

 * At NFL-sponsored state competitions, to prevent larger schools from taking over the tournament by sheer force of numbers, a limit is set on how many debators (typically four) a school may enter into any one division. This allows smaller schools with fewer debators a more level playing field to compete for break rounds and tournament awards. This limit is most effective in ensuring good competiton in the Novice and Varsity catergories, but a larger school might have an advantage with an overflow of experienced debators, which are then enrolled into the JV catergory. At the national qualifier tournament, one school may only submit its top four debators.  This eliminates nearly all issues of school size and "unfair competition" to ensure each student and each school gets an equal shot at the national tournament.

Ab2kgj 05:12, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I think something like this was up before. Heres the thing: If you knew nothing about LD and come upon this section would just confuse the hell out of you. But more importantly there is no standard tournament organization. Plenty of tournaments only have one or two divisions and have no actual eligibility standards. Plenty of kids don't have real coaches- so coaches are certainly not responsible for who qualifies for what division. There are stats that don't have NFL-sponsored state tournaments. I suspect there are tournaments with different limiting rules. NFL Qualifier rules are so complicated and change every year... it makes almost no sense to put them in. They don't really have anything to do with understanding the activity either.--Jsn4 08:47, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Looks alright, the only thing I found is that NFL Qualifiers are not preset to 4. School size is still a factor, schools with less overall entries get less debate entries as well. Lasvegasgamer 08:46, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

hmmm...im pretty sure that our school was unable to enter more than 4 in the qualifier for LD. Can someone find the rules regarding qualifiers?Ab2kgj 22:02, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Its a really complicated process that has to do with the number of NFL points your team registered. Like I said I don't think it needs to be included in the article.--Jsn4 01:45, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

67.53.145.33
This guy keeps vandalizing the page. Anyone know to report him to have him suspended for a couple of days so that we can patchthe broken peices of it back together?--XAdHominemx 06:32, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Links links links
Shouldn't the topics (November/december topic-blah blah blah) provide a link to other wikipedia sites? So that if a debator were to visit this, they could find some research on the topic easily? As a matter of fact, there are very few links to be found in this article in general! I'm only a n00b (and uber n00b) but could some put some wiki-links on this page?

 * If you're gonna call yourself a "n00b" then you should be asking for linkz, no? I added a whole bunch, btw, good suggestion. Does anybody think we should be linking to basketball and football? That doesn't make too much sense to me... w/e--Jsn4 05:56, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Variance of focus in LD between leagues
As I understand it and as the article seems to say, NFL value debate attempts to find a value that both sides agree upon as the standard and then focus the debate on which side better achieves this value. In the NCFCA, on the other hand, the focus is much greater on the clash of values - debating which value should take precedence when the two come into conflict. Rounds where the entire debate is focused on which side better upholds one value (referred to as criteria wars) are usually looked upon with some disdain by most NCFCA LDers. Does the NFL focus at all on the clash of values or is this looked upon with as much disdain by NFLers as criteria wars are by NCFCAers? --HomeschooledDebater 19:05, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

 * The wording of recent NFL resolutions has tended to proclude extensive value debate. I wouldn't say they're "looked down upon" value debates just don't tend to happen very much. When there are significantly different values the debate still tends to focus on the criterion where the value the differences are more clear and easier to understand. That said...you kids really spend 26 minutes talking about whether justice or morality is better? --Jsn4 23:20, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Also, it is my understanding that the use of LD theory and progressive debate decreases in the order of TOC -> NFL -> NCFL -> local things. --Chronicidal 02:41, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Something like that, though there are some areas with local debate that is more progressive than NFL. --Jsn4 23:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

How precisely is "progressive" defined? It may be new, but I don't think we can automatically consider it better just because it is different. --151.199.159.3 17:55, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

 * I don't think this is really the place for that debate since we all know how the word progressive is being used its not all that important.--Jsn4 23:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Rulebook
Could somebody please link me to an LD rulebook? I've been unsuccessful in my search. Cynicism addict 04:09, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

 * If you're sincere- there isn't one. If you're being ironic- hahahah. --Jsn4 04:57, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Past winners
Should we create a "Past winners" section? It would probably fit before or after the past topics section and include winners of major tournaments such as Nationals and TOC (possibly other national circut tournaments?) Is this too elitist or does it provide a record of important historical information? --Sdevoid 23:35, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I think it's relevant. --proficient (talk) 20:14, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Syllogism
Should the syllogism method of debate be included? This method has been becoming popular in recent months. -rubbaducky42

 * Nah, I don't think so. Syllogism is a basic form of logic and should be kept in its separate article. Rokasomee 03:55, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Changes in NFL ballot
I removed this paragraph:

In light of recent competition, the National Forencics League has created new burdens for both debaters. In stead of the AFF having to prove that the resolution is true, and the NEG simply preventing this from happening, the new burden is equal on both sides. The rational behind this is the recent trend in LD style. LD is intended to be a more persuasive arguement based debate. However, national circuit debaters were taking advtage of the previous burden system and "spreading their opponent." In other words, the NEG would focus on making a lot of arguements against the AFF and only go for "dropped arguements." This style of debating was effective at winning debates, but lost sight of the intent of LD. Thus, in hope of preventing this style from overtaking copetitors, the National Forensics League created equal brudens for botht he AFF and the NEG.

It's got no source, it's poorly written, and it's biased. Does anyone know enough about the changes to make a serious edit? --Monkus2k 03:18, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I wasn't aware that the burdens were changed? What are they now? Rokasomee (talk) 07:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Debate section times
I think the times for the various parts of the debate listed in the article are incorrect. I can't find a reliable source to base real times on, however, so could someone check the times with some other source? Cap'n Refsmmat 01:46, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Yea the times are really wrong, I actively debate LD so I modified the time chart to match the standardized times for LD rounds.(Dan 1 01:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC))

What Happened?
I propose that someone rewrite the article in order to outline what LD really SHOULD be about--what the creators originally INTENDED it to be about--as opposed to what it has become. For instance, the use of cards along with the term itself has only come into use in the last couple of years. It did not exist when the category was originally created, and certainly was not used by either Lincoln or Douglas. LD has become so bogged down in technicalities that people have stopped focusing on what the values, the true essence of LD, and this article is only worsening the situation. This must be mended.

--a concerned advocate —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 155.212.94.131 (talk) 21:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC).

I agree. Good job!

yea ignoring every single change that has happened to the activity sure makes for a great encylopedia 24.161.110.100 (talk) 01:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Creation of a Case section
Does anyone have proof for the opening quote or observation portions? Those portions are very rare, even in "novice debate," which the article claims.--Soulwar (talk) 02:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm going to remove this until someone shows this to be from somewhere other than their own personal cases.--BuddyJesus (talk) 03:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Rare Cases
In the "Cases" section, there is a mention of irony cases and major/minor premise cases. I don't fully understand what either of these are, but if anyone else does, it might be good to add a brief definition of these, similar to what has already been done for the other types of cases mentioned in that paragraph.--Smileej (talk) 02:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey debaters
This article is kind of important within the debate community, but it is really bad and has no sources. You should totally fix it.Enigmocracy (talk) 03:48, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

I agree. I had to read all the way down to the "Format" section before I got an idea what the heck a Lincoln-Douglas debate is, and I still don't know what is considered the defining trait of this as opposed to other debate formats. That information should be right at the top! With Newt Gingrich talking about challenging Obama to a series of these, it's apt to become a topic of interest outside the debate community. 152.160.99.172 (talk) 15:52, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Should this even have its own page?
Having this page be Lincoln–Douglas debate is a bit like having the John Philip Sousa page be about the John Philip Sousa award, and relegating the actual person to John Philip Sousa (composer). If someone wants to read about high school debates, they'll go to an article about high-school debates or about one of the organizations that sponsor them; from there, if the person is interested enough and the sub-types are actually notable, they'll follow "main article" links to pages about the specific sub-types. If someone comes directly to this page, it's nearly certain they actually wanted Lincoln–Douglas debates. --Dan Wylie-Sears 2 (talk) 14:21, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Policy Debates
As much as I love the fact that there is still a debate system in place in high school, which I thought would be history by now, and though I favor the LD style, the policy-oriented, auctioneer-style |National Speech and Debate tournament sponsored by the National Forensic League should certainly be mentioned. 173.217.145.196 (talk) 04:19, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * 3) It does not limit the copyright owner's rights to sell the CD album in any way.
 * 4) It illustrates the main subject of the respective article.
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Rebirth (Gackt album)

Rebirth is the second full-length studio album released by Japanese solo artist Gackt on April 25, 2001. It is a concept album linked to its successor Re:born from 2009.

Release
The album was released on April 25, 2001, by Nippon Crown. In the initial counting week of May it reached number three on the Oricon charts, with sales of 108,390 copies. In the upcoming week, it was at the number fifteen, with sales of 25,910 copies. It charted for 21 weeks. In 2001, with sales of 214,220 copies, it was the 100th best selling album of the year.

Preceding the album release, were released three singles, "Seki-Ray", "Secret Garden" and "Kimi no Tame ni Dekiru Koto". The first single "Seki-Ray" reached number seven on the third counting week of March 2000, with sales of 70,820 copies. In the upcoming two week, it was at number ten, with sales of 16,120. It charted for 6 weeks, and sold over 108,000 copies. The second single "Secret Garden" reached number ten on the fourth counting week of November 2000, with sales of 50,110 copies. It charted for 5 weeks, and sold over 83,000 copies. The third single "Kimi ni Tamei Dekiru Koto" reached number six on the fourth counting week of March 2001, with sales of 50,720 copies. In the upcoming three weeks, it was at number thirteen, sixteen and eighteen respectively, with sales of 18,490, and 14,550, and 9,590 copies. It charted for 18 weeks, and sold over 146,770 copies.

Album credits

 * Personnel
 * Vocals, Piano: Gackt
 * Guitar, Violin: You
 * Guitar: Masa
 * Effects, Guitar: Nao Kimura
 * Guitar: Yukihiro "chachamaru" Fujimura
 * Bass/Cello: Ren
 * Drums: Toshiyuki Sugino
 * Keyboards programming: Shusei Tsukamoto
 * "M-5" Strings arrangement, programming: Yohei Shimada
 * Drums: Ryuichi Nishida
 * Drums: Kota Igarashi
 * Violin: Gen Ittetsu
 * Cello: Masami Horisawa
 * "M-9" Sexy voice: Mai&Akira

 * Production
 * Producer: Gackt
 * Executive Producer: Masami Kudo (Nippon Crown), You Harada (Museum Museum)
 * Sound Technical Producer: Yukihiro "chachamaru" Fujimura
 * Engineer: Motonari Matsumoto, Kentaro Kikuchi
 * Mastering Engineer: Yoichi Aikawa (Rolling Sound Mastering Stuio)

 * Design
 * Art direction & Design: Jun Misaki
 * Photographer: Kenji Tsukagoshi

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Talk:Aeon (company)

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The ÆON entry should stand, subject to further editing, of course. All information in the ÆON page is verifiable. This page was created to replace a misleading link and clear up confusion with AEON language school, an unrelated Japanese company that was incorectly identified as the holding company of JUSCO department store.

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This article is only a stub, but a valid one. ÆON is a major corporate entity in SE Asia and merits an article.Manning 14:40, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

Name?
The name of the company appears to be Aeon, not Æon. It's just the companys logo that makes the A and E appears like an Æ. See their homepage for reference. Example: "Structural Reform of Aeon’s Financial Service Business " http://www.aeon.info/en/

Agree? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.16.159.245 (talk) 13:25, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Is this the same AEON corporation that owns Federation Tower in Moscow?
Is this the same AEON corporation that owns Federation Tower in Moscow? (Federation Tower is the tallest building in Russia) If not, then shouldn't there be a sentence noting that it is a different AEON corporation? Thanks in advance to anybody who knows.

Requested move 16 June 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 20:56, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

AEON (company) → Aeon (company) – I understand that it is stylized in uppercase, but it does not seem appropriate as an article title. Even on the official website, it is not specifically capitalized within English sentences. Akasakamoto (talk) 18:18, 16 June 2023 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support per MOS:TM. - Station1 (talk) 04:15, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment. Note we also have Aeon Motor and Aeon Group, both of which are also companies. I agree with moving away from the capitalisation, but maybe a more specific disambiguator is needed? -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:15, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
 * As for Aeon Motor, I think there is less concern about confusion because it is not just Aeon. As for Aeon Group, it shares almost the same content as Aeon (company), and I am considering integrating them myself eventually. Akasakamoto (talk) 14:48, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Melbourne/Institutions

Not to be finicky, but shouldn't the category have a lowercase i? :)

I also think it might be wise to rename it - Melbourne institutions sounds like something more likely to refer to the Punters Club than the Local Government Association of Victoria. Ambi 06:01, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Your correct, the category name should be Melbourne institutions with a lower case i. I've made the changes. As to the second part, I think Melbourne institutions is an appropriate title following the example of Category:British institutions. So far in the Melbourne project we have concentrated on the physical environment of Melbourne and the institutions category will allow us to build up articles on the social environment of the city. Perhaps an example of this is the recent article on the Royal Park Golf Course, while we do not yet have an article on the Royal Park Golf Club. Both are important in describing the physical and social environment, yet it is the social institution of the golf club which created the golf course.

There also needs to be work done on Category:Australian institutions and Category:Victorian institutions and for every other Australian state.

I reckon the Punters Club fits in as a cultural institution. I am still thinking through some of the issues, particularly between city/state/national differentiation.--Takver 10:45, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Progress update Feb 24, 2006
I have included in this update the following categories:
 * Melbourne culture
 * Sporting clubs in Melbourne
 * Law
 * Tertiary education
 * 100 high schools
 * Labour and Industry
 * Media
 * Consumer organisations
 * Hospitals
 * Science

I estimate the total articles required at about 360. Of this total, 43 are complete, 54 are over 70% complete, 39 are estimated at 40 to 60% complete, 56 are basically stubs and 168 do not exist. The calculated overall progress for Melbourne institutions is 33%. Cuddy Wifter 22:48, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

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The category of "Melbourne institutions" has been renamed Category:Melbourne organisations, please see Cfd log1. Also, the category "British institutions" has been renamed, see Cfd log2. - Cuddy Wifter 05:02, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Progress update April 28, 2006
Overall progress for this section of the Melbourne Project has increased from 33% to 43%. On the previous assumption of 360 articles required, we have 49 complete, 65 are over 70% complete, 73 are estimated at 40 to 60% complete, 70 are basically stubs and 103 do not exist. - Cuddy Wifter 05:55, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Progress update April 24, 2007
On the assumption that 400 articles are now required in this section of the Melbourne Project, overall progress is estimated at 57%. We have 63 articles complete, 102 are over 70% complete, 116 are estimated at 40 to 60% complete, 106 are basically stubs and 13 do not exist. - Cuddy Wifter 06:31, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Hospitals
There are a number of defunct Melbourne hospitals which don't have pages such as Prince Henry's Hospital, Queen Victoria Hospital (currently comes up as a link to the QV shopping precinct, which isn't appropriate IMHO), as well as current hospitals such as Thomas Embling Hospital and Maroondah Hospital. My current focus is on psychiatric hospitals and the Yarra Bend area so I'll work on TEH, but if someone else could work on the others... Shelbypark (talk) 07:41, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


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Some IMO redundant ones
As usual, if you really care, feel free to re-add them. JesseW 06:03, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 27 m — distance between bases on a baseball field
 * 49 m — width of American football field (53 1/3 yards)
 * only one reference per sport per page, I think.
 * 25 m — wavelength of the broadcast radio shortwave band at 12 MHz
 * 31 m — wavelength of the broadcast radio shortwave band at 9.7 MHz
 * 49 m — wavelength of the broadcast radio shortwave band at 6.1 MHz
 * Can someone add what if anything is special about 12, 9.7 or 6.1 MHz? Are they well known radio stations, or something?  Unless some notability can be provided, they are redundant.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ecologics

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was No consensus, so keep --Allen3 talk 13:10, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

Ecologics
I debated whether or not to go ahead and nominate this page. It's a large text addition by User:Adisaji, who joined Wikipedia today and whose sole contribution is this article. Because it's a large text addition to a new article, I suspected copyvio, but I was unable to locate the text anywhere else on the Internet. I still suspect it may be Original Research. I don't know enough about what the article is talking about to really know, but it just feels wrong. I've added and, but I'm going ahead and calling the VfD and asking for other editors opinions...particularly anyone who might be more knowledgeable about this subject than I. If it's legit, great, let's keep it and make it great, but I'm very dubious of this page. }} EvilPhoenix talk 06:07, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

I'm changing my vote on this one. Adisaji has made an effort to improve the article, and has contacted me to ask for help. I believe user is editing in good faith, and I am willing to give this article a chance to grow. I would ask other editors to consider this when voting. EvilPhoenix talk 03:08, July 20, 2005 (UTC) Repy to Dragons flight I have not been able to find the book you referenced by Libbie Agran & Bobbie Gilber entitled "Ecologics". Can you provide the ISBN or publisher or the website you obtained this information from. If validated I will include it in my revised submission.--Adisaji 23:49, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Give him more time to improve it. --Malathion 06:25, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - non-notable; dubious (Black ecology predates asserted) William M. Connolley 15:47:40, 2005-07-15 (UTC).
 * Comment: The article now begins... Ecologics ([Ikologiks])is defined as a cumulative-progressive system (science) of philosophical thought or study into universal phenomenlogical knowledge; within the context of integrated dialectical, metaphysical, revolutionary transformational praxis.(Davis, 1977,1999).. I don't think this has any meaning. Certainly it is incompatible with Ecologics is a research term used to describe a field of study or theory that is an extension of the academic discipline known as Human Ecology.. A term cannot be "is" something other than its definition. Still delete, sorry. William M. Connolley 13:45:03, 2005-07-24 (UTC).
 * Delete Adisaji, this is no reflection on the quality of your work, but Wikipedia does not allow original research. Abstain This has changed a lot, and I'm not well equipped to sort it out. Friday 04:47, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: remind editor about No personal attacks - don't presume "we have no knowledge of the subject" - if anything, we're calling it out for deletion, and have every right to question its existence - if you think otherwise, just issue a defense statement and prove it should exist. But this is an encylopedia based on referenced issues, not a scientific journal...the community approaches it as a whole, and that way both expert and non-expert contributes.  -- Natalinasmpf 07:50, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Provisional Keep - This document is awkward. It seems to be either a very talented piece of historical research or a remarkable fraud.  In the spirit of good faith, I am going to assume the former.  Google seems to verify the existence of many of the key terms (Ikologiks), organizations (Cornell College of Human Ecology, Eco.Logic Powerhouse) and people (Adisa Maina Omar).  However, my use of google is not able to establish certain other entities or the connections between them.  For example, I have not been able to connect any "Roger M. Davis" to either Adisa Omar, Cornell, or Ecologics.  Key facts of this type clearly need citations.  At the very least, I would feel a lot better about this work if the author would provide full references for some of Davis' ecologic work.  Also, it seems that the term "ecologics" existed at least in 1971 when Libbie Agran & Bobbie Gilbert wrote a book by that title.  Of course, it is not clear whether they were refering to the same concept as this article.  In response to the original research comments, I would observe that most of this article is presented as a collection of facts.  As such, it should be possible to document these issues in sufficient detail to avoid the WP:NOR prohibition.  Assumming the author is willing to start filling in the citation details (and s/he seems to have expressed a willingness to do this) then I support the existence of this article.  Dragons flight 08:02, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Adisaji, here is a copy of the citation information from my university's online catalog. Frankly it reads rather strangely, since the "publisher" is given as "Los Angeles".  I wonder if this was someone's thesis, or something like that.  Regardless, they did use the word "ecologics", though I have no easy way of knowing what they meant by it. Dragons flight 02:04, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Author     Agran, Libbie. Title      Ecologics / written by Libbie Agran & Bobbie Gilbert ; with the help of Joyce King & Penny Kamin. Publisher  Los Angeles : Barbara Gilbert and Mary E. Agran, 1971. Description 102 p. ; 28 cm. Note       Cover title. Language   English Added Entry Gilbert, Bobbie. Format     Book
 * The above does look like someone's thesis paper. I have not found other confirmation for the publishing of this book using the term "Ecologics." I think the Library of Congress records would be a last resort.--Adisaji 04:33, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment. Well, Adisaji left a comment asking for help on my talk page, which I will provide as much as I can, so I do want to see if this article can be improved. It may be worth waiting on this one. EvilPhoenix talk 19:00, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete pseudointellectual claptrap. Even direct citations have spelling and grammatical errors, which leads me to believe this is a hoax.  Also, as a professor of philosophy who has read much in the vein of environmental ethics and metaphyics, this is (a) like nothing I've ever seen published and (b) too religious to be analytical as the article implies. It would be a disservice to readers to maintain this article.  As far as the author below claiming that he will provide "copies of news articles and clippings," I find this claim dubious because he expects prompting, rather than freely presenting the information in the first place.  See Dianetics for my thought on the matter.  Also, how is the subject anything other than deep ecology in gnosctic clothing? Amicuspublilius 22:47, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, see top of page. EvilPhoenix talk 03:08, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

UPDATED!!!--Adisaji 01:39, 22 July 2005 (UTC)== Strong Rebuke == Amicuspublilius Your comments "pseudointellectual claptrap" were insulting and actually a violation of the "professional" and "non-attack" basis of wikipedia. I hope other members report you. I checked YOUR USER PAGE, and you DO NOT CITE, where you received your degrees in Philosophy and I find your claims of academic excellence flawed and dubious. I'm sure online pesudeo academic degrees are common and easy to obtain. You obviously have deep seated biases/prejudices (ie. comment Dianetics)and perhaps you need to go back to school to learn standards in professional objectivity. For the sake of harmony, I am removing these earlier statements that have been misconstrued as a 'personal attack.' --Adisaji 01:39, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately, wikipedia editor does not have spellcheck/grammer check functions. I will attempt to make corrections as found. Rather than making blank criticisms, spend your time providing the specific sentences that have errors.--Adisaji 23:49, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I addressed the issue at hand, and I hope that rather than attacking me, you or any supporter of this article also address the issue at hand, perhaps by providing citations. If you would like an extended academic critique of this article, I am prepared to give one.  Feel free to report me yourself.  As for my reference to Dianetics, I am pointing out an article which deals with a controversial subject, points out that the subject is controversial, and provides citations which prove the subject isn't so much hot air.  This is as much time as I'm going to spend on the matter.  It's up to you to correct the article or provide reasons it doesn't need correction. Amicuspublilius 03:43, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Your tone is still belligerant -- for the record I NEVER attacked you. I just replied to your bias and responded to your offensive language and non-verification of your academic qualifications. I don't want to waste more time with "negativity-bickering" so like you said I'll make the corrections and you can vote the way you want. Dianetics and Scientologist (Tom Cruise, John Travota, etc.) may be bogus or "kooks" in your opinion, but some had that same feeling about other movements like Mormans, Hare Krishnas, SevenDay Adventist or those that once said the world was round when the common thinking was the world is flat (middle ages). We may disagree with their ideas but that doesn't mean wikipedia should not list them. I suggest opinions remain just that and pure objective scientific review not be based on cultural,racial or intellectual bias. That should be the golden rule at wikipedia. --Adisaji 04:44, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * you DO NOT CITE, where you received your degrees in Philosophy reads like an attack to me. You are failing to distinguish between what people say about themselves on their own pages, and the rather higher standards of reference required on article pages. I'm sure online pesudeo academic degrees are common and easy to obtain is most definitely an attack, and you should retract it. William M. Connolley 08:47:24, 2005-07-20 (UTC).
 * It doesn't bother me that he makes that point, although it is a tad irrelevant. There is a reason I don't list where I have my degrees, or where I teach, and my posts should be able to stand for themselves. Amicuspublilius 15:34, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * To User:William Connolley, when someone uses language like "hoax" "dubious" and "pseudointellectual claptrap" I TAKE THAT VERY PERSONALLY AND AS AN INSULT ABOUT MY INTEGRITY AND HONESTY. Had he simply referenced the article that would be acceptable, but he personally attacked my sincerity, honesty, integrity. I had every right to question his "academic credentials" when he used them in a paternalistic/condesending fashion and as a basis for discrediting my submission and essentially calling me a liar. I've got better things to do with my time/life than fabricate erroneous material for wikipedia. --Adisaji 14:29, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * This isn't doing you any good you know. William M. Connolley 15:11:55, 2005-07-20 (UTC).
 * This argument is a red herring, and I hope he begins to edit the article with as much tenacity, for his and the article's sake. Also, feel free to see his user talk page where I have provided him a list of revisions he could make to meet "my" and Wikipedia's standards.  Two citations, relation to current literature, and a revision of the article's definition (which at this point is nearly the same definition for ecology or biology) doesn't seem too much to ask (Since if this is provided, I could do the grammatical/spelling revisions as penance).  I, and anyone here would provide these edits if they could, since there is no prejudice about the article existing per se. Amicuspublilius 15:34, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Note from page author:

Talk:Ecologics From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. ECOLOGICS

I am responding to those citing the submission for "deletion" on ECOLOGICS. I spent a lot of time preparing and researching this submission. Yes, it has historical relevance and I am prepared to offer copies of news articles and clippings that would substantiate this claim.

I think it is unfair and unreasonable to delete an article submission just because the reader has NO KNOWLEDGE of the subject. If you don't have knowledge about this topic then you should not comment. I would appreciate any serious contributions and help in editing this material since I am brand new to the Wikipedia community.

I really think this online source is important specifically because minor topics or information often ommitted in commercial dictionaries or encyclopedias can be now be viewed by researchers.

Thank you. Adisaji

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Comment: "Black Ecology" appears to date from 1970. This doesn't seem consistent with the article. William M. Connolley 21:10:35, 2005-07-17 (UTC).

RESPONDING TO ONGOING DISCUSSION
I really found the assistance of EvilPhoenix very helpful and supportive. The "comment" by William M. Connolley seems well-founded. I am trying to locate the actual article by N. Hare so I can determine whether the term "black ecology" was used in a generic sense in the journal article or as an actual introduction of a new english word/term. It is possible that both N. Hare and R. Davis both began to popularize the term. For example, the 1960s black activist Stokely Carmichael is largely viewed to have introduced the term 'Black Power.' However, the term 'Black Capitalism' is accredited to former President Richard Nixon, and there is some indication he (Nixon) might have also introduced the term 'black power' preceding Carmichael (see book "Star Spangled Hustle" -- I'll cite detailed references later). I have located several scanned copies from the following presses: The Washington Post, Bronx Press Review, Our Daily Planet, NY Daily News and Cornell Daily Sun which all pertain to the material in the article -- Ecologics. DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW I CAN UPLOAD THIS IMAGES, so interested parties can review them and assist in the ongoing discussion. Natalinasmpf Your comments were I believe a violation of the very Wikipedia policies you accused me of violating. It seems you just want to emotionally dismiss the submission -- for the record, I did not attack an editor. I'm trying very hard to be polite and scholarly.

(Updated!!!) I think at this point ... maybe the article should just be DELETED. I'm feeling so pressured to revise this article before your "five day review" deadline. The nature of this research for acquiring citations will take time, since the material is not easily recoverable and deals with material over thirty years ago. This was well before the digital age and internet age -- so most citations will have to be manually researched at the libraries -- not Internet. Before, I take time and money to do that (often to get archived reprints from journals or newspapers cost money) PLEASE MAKE THE DECISION TO DELETE OR NOT DELETE. --Adisaji 01:39, 22 July 2005 (UTC) I will revise the submission as needed "as a work in progress" in good faith if I can just have some patience from all you editors and respondents. Thank you. --Adisaji 09:29, 19 July 2005 (UTC)Adisaji

SCANNED NEWSPAPER ARTICLES IN SUPPORT OF WIKI-SUBMISSION 'ECOLOGICS' & TERM 'BLACK ECOLOGY'
The below images have been uploaded to wikipedia. I have not posted them at the article site or revised the actual article until I receive clear support for completing this submission. --Adisaji 00:36, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * This is almost a decent case to start an article black ecology, although it isn't clear whether the "black ecology" in question would be a branch of ecology (a biological science) or of environmental ethics (a philosophical science). Amicuspublilius 03:49, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I am considering starting a "Black Ecology" page as well as soon as I get the first page "Ecologics" refined, tweaked and put in conformity with wikipedia standards. I have noted your other comments (above) -- and responded.--Adisaji 04:34, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Talk:Bunny (webcomic)

Article Deletion
Keep: Ok, I put in too many links the first time. Fixed now, please keep article. ~ Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l ✎☠ 06:08, 2005 July 15 (UTC)

Keep: Article needs work to be more encyclopedic, but a good stub would be a nice addition as the comic in question is moderately popular. JeroenHoek 09:12, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Wikilinks to non-existing articles
My apologies for removing the wikilinks to the non-existing Wiki article on "Lem" Cyberskull, but I don't think he is notable enough to warrant a wiki article. The webcomic Bunny is pretty well known, and most of the people visiting the site remember that the artist is called Lem, but if you take away "Bunny" then he isn't anymore famous than you or me. Of course, if someone thinks differently and creates a great artcile on Lem (artist), then by all means, link him, but in all other cases a red wikilink should only be used when it is to be expected that that article should be part of Wikipedia, which isn't the case here. I'm afraid that an article on Lem won't survive a VfD. JeroenHoek 20:43, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Gender Section
The Gender section seems to be entirely speculative. Additionally, the paragraph states that many of the gender-related comics were "created by people other than the strip's creator" and were therefore probably not canon. I therefore believe that it should be removed, per WP:Verify. I'll leave it for a few days, and if there haven't been any objections here I'll remove it. --Beezhive 03:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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Sustainable business

A sustainable business, or a green business, is an enterprise that has a minimal negative impact or potentially a positive effect on the global or local environment, community, society, or economy—a business that attempts to meet the triple bottom line. They cluster under different groupings and the whole is sometimes referred to as "green capitalism". Often, sustainable businesses have progressive environmental and human rights policies. In general, a business is described as green if it matches the following four criteria:
 * 1) It incorporates principles of sustainability into each of its business decisions.
 * 2) It supplies environmentally friendly products or services that replace demand for nongreen products and/or services.
 * 3) It is greener than traditional competition.
 * 4) It has made an enduring commitment to environmental principles in its business operations.

Terminology
A sustainable business is one that participates in environmentally friendly or green activities to ensure that all processes, products, and manufacturing activities adequately address current environmental concerns while maintaining a profit. In other words, it is a business that “meets the needs of the present [world] without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs.” It is the process of assessing how to design products that will take advantage of the current environmental situation and how well a company’s products perform with renewable resources.

The Brundtland Report emphasized that sustainability is a three-legged stool of people, planet, and profit. Sustainable businesses within the supply chain try to balance all three through the triple-bottom-line concept—using sustainable development and sustainable distribution to affect the environment, business growth, and society.

To succeed in such an approach, where balancing stakeholder interests and collaborative solutions are key, requires a strategic approach. One philosophy, that includes many different tools and methods, is the concept of Sustainable Enterprise Excellence. Another is the adoption of the concept of responsible growth.

Sustainability is often confused with corporate social responsibility (CSR), though the two are not the same. Bansal and DesJardine (2014) state that the notion of ‘time’ discriminates sustainability from CSR and other similar concepts. Whereas ethics, morality, and norms permeate CSR, sustainability only obliges businesses to make intertemporal trade-offs to safeguard intergenerational equity.

Short-termism is seen as the bane of sustainability. While CSR and sustainability are not the same, they are related to each other. For example, setting salaries, implementing new technologies, and retiring old plants all have an impact on the firm's stakeholders and the natural environment.

Green business has been seen as a possible mediator of economic-environmental relations, and if proliferated, could diversify the economy, even if it has a negligible effect on lowering atmospheric CO2 levels. The definition of "green jobs" is ambiguous, but it is generally agreed that these jobs, the result of green business, should be linked to "clean energy" and contribute to the reduction of greenhouse gases. These corporations can be seen as generators of not only "green energy", but as producers of new "materializes" that are the product of the technologies, these firms developed and deployed.

Environmental sphere
A major initiative of sustainable businesses is to eliminate or decrease the environmental harm caused by the production and consumption of their goods. The impact of such human activities in terms of the number of greenhouse gases produced can be measured in units of carbon dioxide and is referred to as the carbon footprint. The carbon footprint concept is derived from the ecological footprint analysis, which examines the ecological capacity required to support the consumption of products.

Businesses take a wide range of green initiatives. One of the most common examples is the act of "going paperless" or sending electronic correspondence in instead of paper when possible. On a higher level, examples of sustainable business practices include: refurbishing used products (e.g., tuning up lightly used commercial fitness equipment for resale); revising production processes to eliminate waste (such as using a more accurate template to cut out designs), and choosing nontoxic raw materials and processes. For example, Canadian farmers have found that hemp is a sustainable alternative to rapeseed in their traditional crop rotation; hemp grown for fiber or seed requires no pesticides or herbicides. Another example is upcycling clothes or textiles, in which businesses can upcycle products to maintain or increase their quality.

Sustainable business leaders also take into account the life cycle costs for the items they produce. Input costs must be considered regarding regulations, energy use, storage, and disposal. Designing for the environment DFE is also an element of sustainable business. This process enables users to consider the potential environmental impacts of a product and the process used to make that product.

The many possibilities for adopting green practices have led to considerable pressure being put upon companies from consumers, employees, government regulators, and other stakeholders. Some companies have resorted to "greenwashing" instead of making meaningful changes, merely marketing their products in ways that suggest green practices. For example, various producers in the bamboo fiber industry have been taken to court for advertising their products as "greener" than they are. In their book “Corporate Sustainability in International Comparison”, Schaltegger et al. (2014) analyze the current state of corporate sustainability management and corporate social responsibility across eleven countries. Their research is based on an extensive survey focusing on the companies’ intention to pursue sustainability management (i.e. motivation; issues), the integration of sustainability in the organization (i.e. connecting sustainability to the core business; involving corporate functions; using drivers of business cases for sustainability) and the actual implementation of sustainability management measures (i.e. stakeholder management; sustainability management tools and standards; measurements). An effective way for businesses to contribute towards waste reduction is to remanufacture products so that the materials used can have a longer lifespan.

Sustainable Businesses
The Harvard Business School business historian Geoffrey Jones (academic) traces the historical origins of green business back to pioneering start-ups in organic food and wind and solar energy before World War 1. Among large corporations, Ford Motor Company occupies an odd role in the story of sustainability. Ironically, founder Henry Ford was a pioneer in the sustainable business realm, experimenting with plant-based fuels during the days of the Model T. Ford Motor Company also shipped the Model A truck in crates that then became the vehicle floorboards at the factory destination. This was a form of upcycling, retaining high quality in a closed-loop industrial cycle. Furthermore, the original auto body was made of a stronger-than-steel hemp composite. Today, of course, Fords aren't made of hemp, nor do they run on the most sensible fuel. Currently, Ford's claim to eco-friendly fame is the use of seat fabric made from 100% post-industrial materials and renewable soy foam seat bases. Ford executives recently appointed the company’s first senior vice president of sustainability, environment, and safety engineering. This position is responsible for establishing a long-range sustainability strategy and environmental policy, developing the products and processes necessary to satisfy customers and society as a whole while working toward energy independence. It remains to be seen whether Ford will return to its founder's vision of a petroleum-free automobile, a vehicle powered by the remains of plant matter.

The automobile manufacturer Subaru has also made efforts to tackle sustainability. In 2008 a Subaru assembly plant in Lafayette became the first auto manufacturer to achieve zero landfill status when the plant implemented sustainable policies. The company successfully managed to implement a plan that increased refuse recycling to 99.8%. In 2012, the corporation increased the reuse of Styrofoam by 9%. And from the year 2008 to the year 2012, environmental incidents and accidents were reduced from 18 to 4.

Smaller companies such as Nature's Path, an organic cereal and snack-making business, have also made sustainability gains in the 21st century. CEO Arran Stephens and his associates have ensured that the quickly growing company's products are produced without toxic farm chemicals. Furthermore, employees are encouraged to find ways to reduce consumption. Sustainability is an essential part of corporate discussions. Another example comes from Salt Spring Coffee, a company created in 1996 as a certified organic, fair trade, coffee producer. In recent years they have become carbon neutral, lowering emissions by reducing long-range trucking and using bio-diesel in delivery trucks, upgrading to energy-efficient equipment, and purchasing carbon offsets. The company claims to offer the first carbon-neutral coffee sold in Canada. Salt Spring Coffee was recognized by the David Suzuki Foundation in the 2010 report Doing Business in a New Climate. A third example comes from Korea, where rice husks are used as nontoxic packaging for stereo components and other electronics. The same material is later recycled to make bricks.

Some companies in the textile industry have been moving towards more sustainable business practices. Specifically, the clothing company Patagonia has focused on reducing consumption and waste. The company limits its environmental impact by ensuring only recycled and organic materials, repairing damaged clothes, and by complying with strong environmental protection standards for its entire supply chain.

Some companies in the mining and specifically gold mining industries are attempting to move towards more sustainable practices, especially given that the industry is one of the most environmentally destructive. Regarding gold mining, Northwestern University scientists have, in the laboratory, discovered an inexpensive and environmentally sustainable method that uses simple cornstarch—instead of cyanide—to isolate gold from raw materials in a selective manner. Such a method can reduce the amount of cyanide released into the environment during gold extraction from raw ore, with one of the Northwestern University scientists, Sir Fraser Stoddart stating that: “The elimination of cyanide from the gold industry is of the utmost importance environmentally". Additionally, the retail jewelry industry is now trying to be more sustainable, with companies using green energy providers and recycling more, as well as preventing the use of mined-so called 'virgin gold' by applying re-finishing methods on pieces and re-selling them. Furthermore, the customer may opt for Fairtrade Gold, which gives a better deal to small-scale and artisanal miners, and is an element of sustainable business. However, not everyone thinks that mining can be sustainable and many believe that much more must be done, noting that mining in general requires greater regional and international legislation and regulation, which is a valid point given the huge impact mining has on the planet and the huge number of products and goods that are made wholly or partly from mined materials.

In the luxury sector, in 2012, the group Kering developed the "Environmental Profit & Loss account" (EP&L) accounting method to track the progress of its sustainability goals, a strategy aligned with the UN Sustainable Development Goals. In 2019, on a request from the President Emmanuel Macron, François-Henri Pinault, Chairman and CEO of the luxury group Kering, presented the Fashion Pact during the summit, an initiative signed by 32 fashion firms committing to concrete measures to reduce their environmental impact. By 2020, 60 firms joined the Fashion Pact.

Fair Trade is a form of sustainable business and among the highest forms of CSR (Corporate Social Responsibility). Organizations that participate in Fair Trade typically adhere to the ten principles of the World Fair Trade Organization (WFTO). Moreover, Fair Trade promotes entrepreneurial development among communities in developing countries and it encourages communities to be responsible and accountable for their economic development via market engagement. Fair Trade is a form of marketing with a strong and direct social benefit beyond the economic supply chain.

Social sphere
Organizations that give back to the community, whether through employees volunteering their time or through charitable donations, are often considered socially sustainable. Organizations can also encourage education in their communities by training their employees and offering internships to younger members of the community. Practices such as these increase the education level and quality of life in the community.

For a business to be truly sustainable, it must sustain not only the necessary environmental resources, but also social resources—including employees, customers (the community), and its reputation.

A term that is directly relates to the social aspect of sustainability is Environmental justice. Sustainability and social justice are directly connected to one another, and seeing these as separate unrelated issues can lead to more problems for the environment and potentially businesses.

Consumers and Marketing
When some purchase goods or services, they may care what a company stands for. This includes social and environmental aspects that may not have seemed important in business in the past. Some consumers may ask for more sustainable goods and services if they feel companies don't care about their impact on the environment. Because ecological awareness can be treated as a choice of personal taste rather than a necessity, it can be a method to try to increase capital from a marketing standpoint. When marketing a product or service it is important that a business follows through with environmental claims. False advertising may lead to distrust among consumers and can ultimately end a company.

Greenwashing
With sustainability becoming more prevalent in the last decade, businesses need to be aware of laws and norms surrounding claims and the potential legal implications. In the United States, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Green guides are one rulebook for businesses on how to avoid potentially deceiving consumers with false advertising. This often is a problem when companies make vague or false environmental claims about a product or service they are selling. When this occurs, it can be called "greenwashing". Greenwashing also refers to an act of overexaggerating the beneficial effects a product may have on the environment. When companies do not follow such guides, they may be subject to legal ramifications and harmed reputations. Sustainable businesses often invest in experienced legal practitioners who can understand and can provide counsel on the FTC Guides and other such frameworks.

Organizations
The European community’s Restriction of Hazardous Substances Directive restricts the use of certain hazardous materials in the production of various electronic and electrical products. Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment (WEEE) directives provide collection, recycling, and recovery practices for electrical goods. The World Business Council for Sustainable Development and the World Resources Institute are two organizations working together to set a standard for reporting on corporate carbon footprints. From October 2013, all quoted companies in the UK are legally required to report their annual greenhouse gas emissions in their directors’ report, under the Companies Act 2006 (Strategic and Directors’ Reports) Regulations 2013.

Lester Brown’s Plan B 2.0 and Hunter Lovins’s Natural Capitalism provide information on sustainability initiatives.

Corporate sustainability strategies
Corporate sustainability strategies can aim to take advantage of sustainable revenue opportunities, while protecting the value of business against increasing energy costs, the costs of meeting regulatory requirements, changes in the way customers perceive brands and products, the volatile price of resources.

Not all eco-strategies can be incorporated into a company's business immediately. The widely practiced strategies include Innovation, Collaboration, Process Improvement and Sustainability reporting.
 * 1) Innovation & Technology: This method focuses on a company's ability to change its products and services towards better environmental impacts, for example less waste production.
 * 2) Collaboration: The formation of networks with similar or partner companies facilitates knowledge sharing and propels innovation.
 * 3) Process Improvement: Continuous process surveying and improvement are essential to reduction in negative impacts. Employee awareness of company-wide sustainability plan further aids the integration of new and improved processes.
 * 4) Sustainability Reporting: Periodic reporting of company performance in relation to goals encourages performance monitoring internally and transparency and accountability externally. The goals might then be incorporated into the corporate mission.
 * 5) Greening the Supply Chain: Sustainable procurement is important for any sustainability strategy as a company's impact on the environment is much bigger than the products that they consume. The B Corporation (certification) model is a good example of one that encourages companies to focus on this.
 * 6) Choosing the Right Leaders: Having CEOs informed about the opportunities from sustainability guides companies in the right steps to being eco-friendly. As the world is slowly transitioning to sustainability, it is important for our company leaders to prioritize and have a sense of urgency.

Companies should adopt a sound measurement and management system to collect data on their sustainability impacts and dependencies, as well as a regular forum for all stakeholders to discuss sustainability issues. The Sustainability Balanced Scorecard is a performance measurement and management system aiming at balancing financial and non-financial as well as short and long-term measures. It explicitly integrates strategically relevant environmental, social and ethical goals into the overall performance management system and supports strategic sustainability management.

Noteworthy examples of sustainable business practices that are often part of corporate sustainability strategies can include: transitioning to renewable energy sources, implementing effective recycling programs, minimizing waste generation in industrial processes, developing eco-friendly product designs, prioritizing the adoption of sustainable packaging materials, fostering an ethical and responsible supply chain, partnering with charities, encouraging volunteerism, upholding equitable treatment of employees, and prioritizing their overall welfare, among numerous other initiatives.

Standards
Enormous economic and population growth worldwide in the second half of the twentieth century aggravated the factors that threaten health and the environment — including ozone depletion, climate change, resource depletion, fouling of natural resources, and extensive loss of biodiversity and habitat. In the past, the standard approaches to environmental problems generated by business and industry have been regulatory-driven "end-of-the-pipe" remediation efforts. In the 1990s, efforts by governments, NGOs, corporations, and investors began to grow to develop awareness and plans for voluntary standards and investment in sustainability by business.

One critical milestone was the establishment of the ISO 14000 standards whose development came as a result of the Rio Summit on the Environment held in 1992. ISO 14001 is the cornerstone standard of the ISO 14000 series. This specifies a framework of control for an Environmental Management System against which an organization can be certified by a third party. Other ISO 14000 Series Standards are actually guidelines, many to help you achieve registration to ISO 14001. They include the following: There are now a wide range of sustainability accounting frameworks that organizations use to measure and disclose on their sustainability impacts and dependencies. These have evolved since the 1990s to encompass metrics spanning a wide range of social, environmental, economic and ethical issues.
 * ISO 14004 provides guidance on the development and implementation of environmental management systems.
 * ISO 14010 provides general principles of environmental auditing (now superseded by ISO 19011)
 * ISO 14011 provides specific guidance on audit an environmental management system (now superseded by ISO 19011)
 * ISO 14012 provides guidance on qualification criteria for environmental auditors and lead auditors (now superseded by ISO 19011)
 * ISO 14013/5 provides audit program review and assessment material.
 * ISO 14020+ labeling issues
 * ISO 14030+ provides guidance on performance targets and monitoring within an Environmental Management System
 * ISO 14040+ covers life cycle issues

Circular business models
While the initial focus of academic, industry, and policy activities was mainly focused on the development of re-X (recycling, remanufacturing, reuse, recovery, etc.), it soon became clear that the technological capabilities increasingly exceed their implementation. For the transition towards a Circular Economy, different stakeholders have to work together. This shifted attention towards business model innovation as a key leverage for 'circular' technology adaption.

Circular business models are business models that are closing, narrowing, slowing, intensifying, and dematerializing loops, to minimize the resource inputs into and the waste and emission leakage out of the organizational system. This comprises recycling measures (closing), efficiency improvements (narrowing), use phase extensions (slowing or extending), a more intense use phase (intensifying), and the substitution of product utility by service and software solutions (dematerializing).

Challenges and opportunities
Implementing sustainable business practices may have an effect on profits and a firm's financial 'bottom line'. However, during a time where environmental awareness is popular, green strategies are likely to be embraced by employees, consumers, and other stakeholders. Many organizations concerned about the environmental impact of their business are taking initiatives to invest in sustainable business practices. In fact, a positive correlation has been reported between environmental performance and economic performance. Businesses trying to implement sustainable business need to have insights on balancing the social equity, economic prosperity and environmental quality elements.

If an organization’s current business model is inherently unsustainable, becoming truly sustainable requires a complete makeover of the business model (e.g. from selling cars to offering car sharing and other mobility services). This can present a major challenge due to the differences between the old and the new model and the respective skills, resources and infrastructure needed. A new business model can offer major opportunities by entering or even creating new markets and reaching new customer groups. The main challenges faced in the sustainable business practices implementation by businesses in developing countries include lack of skilled personnel, technological challenges, socio-economic challenges, organizational challenges and lack of proper policy framework. Skilled personnel plays a crucial role in quality management, enhanced compliance with international quality standards, and preventative and operational maintenance attitude necessary to ensure sustainable business. In the absence of skilled work forces, companies fail to implement a sustainable business model.

Another major challenge to the effective implementation of sustainable business is organizational challenges. Organizational challenges to the implementation of sustainable business activities arise from the difficulties associated with the planning, implementation and evaluation of sustainable business models. Addressing the organizational challenges for the implementation of sustainable business practices need to begin by analyzing the whole value chain of the business rather than focusing solely on the company's internal operations. Another major challenge is the lack of an appropriate policy framework for sustainable business. Companies often comply with the lowest economic, social and environmental sustainability standards, when in fact the true sustainability can be achieved when the business is focused beyond compliance with integrated strategy and purpose.

Companies leading the way in sustainable business practices can take advantage of sustainable revenue opportunities: according to the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills the UK green economy will grow by 4.9 to 5.5 percent a year by 2015, and the average internal rate of return on energy efficiency investments for large businesses is 48%. A 2013 survey suggests that demand for green products appears to be increasing: 27% of respondents said they are more likely to buy a sustainable product and/or service than 5 years ago. Furthermore, sustainable business practices may attract talent and generate tax breaks.

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Decoded Feedback

Decoded Feedback is a Canadian musical project which incorporates styles of electro-industrial and aggrotech. The duo releases music on the North American distributor Metropolis Records, and the European record label Infacted Recordings.

History
Decoded Feedback was formed in 1993 by the Italian Marco Biagiotti (vocals, lyrics, samples, sequences, arrangement, basses and drums) and the Hungarian Yone Dudas (keyboards, sequences, arrangement, samples, basses, drums and lyrics) while they were both living in Italy. The duo met in an industrial night club in Budapest, Hungary and developed a friendship through EBM and industrial music that led to a collaboration for producing original music. Their demo tape entitled Decoded Feedback was reviewed by the Belgian industrial music magazine Side-Line, which led to the group being signed to the European label, Hard Records.

The group relocated to Toronto, Canada in 1995 and a year later Hard Records released their first full-length CD, Overdosing. Due to format changes at Hard Records, the label began letting go of most of their signed artists but Hard Records' Christian Rosén liked their music so much that he introduced the band to Torben Schmidt at Zoth Ommog. Zoth Ommog released Decoded Feedback's second disc, Technophoby, in 1997. Since then, American industrial music distributors Metropolis Records have released domestic versions of all subsequent Decoded Feedback albums.

In 2000, Biagiotti and Dudas signed to the record label Bloodline to release Mechanical Horizon, which was preceded by the first ever Decoded Feedback single, "Reflect in Silence". Three years later, Decoded Feedback switched to their current European record label, Out of Line, and released Shockwave, which was preceded by a single, "Phoenix". In 2005, they released Combustion as well as contributing the soundtrack for the Cindy Murdoch's short zombie film, Red Men Rising (music credited to Yone).

The 2010s yielded three albums: Aftermath, released in 2010, disKonnekt in 2012, and Dark Passenger released in 2016. The single from Dark Passenger entitled "Waiting for the Storm" inspired the creation of and provided the working title for the full-length feature film Strangers at the Door by director Rogelio Salinas.

Several of their albums have ranked on the German Alternative Charts including Bio-Vital, released in 1998, Shockwave, voted #3 Top International Album of 2003, and Aftermath voted #5 on May 27, 2010 and staying on the DAC for 7 weeks reaching #2.

Live
Decoded Feedback conducted their first U.S. tour in 1998 and have played several live shows in Europe. The band spent the greater part of 2001 touring with Noisex and Sonar and again in 2003 with Haujobb. They have played the M'era Luna Festival, the Blacksun Festival in the USA, Infest 2005, and the Out of Line Festival, as well as touring with fellow Metropolis Records bands God Module and Blutengel. In Toronto, Canada, at the EBM Fest 2008, they played as a DJ set because Marco was not present.

Philosophy and style
Yone studied at The Royal Conservatory of Music in Toronto for a short time, but otherwise the duo had no formal music training. Both Yone and Marco cite early electronic music - e.g.: Jean-Michel Jarre and Kraftwerk - as well as new wave music as influences. Yone cites classical music and punk rock as further influences, while Marco cites an affinity for gothic rock.

Both members have also cited the tensions that exist between sexes and international boundaries, as well as their unique backgrounds, as a driving force behind their music - especially in an attempt to create their own unique style.

They originally experimented with the fusion of punk and electro, but over time developed a more cold, industrial-oriented sound. While the band acknowledges that they are heavily influenced by danceable club music, they never set out explicitly to create dance music, but strive to strike a combination of "strength and beauty" in their compositions. By the time Evolution was released, they created a blend of industrial and electronic body music, with "interwoven dance floor textures and symphonic melodies". This sound culminated with Mechanical Horizon, but turned sharply with Shockwave, an album that was seen as something of a return to an older style. Combustion continued this trend.

Decoded Feedback's music is popular within the darker electronic music scene, especially among fans of electro-industrial music. Comparable artists include fellow Metropolis Records acts Haujobb, Wumpscut, Suicide Commando and Front Line Assembly, as well as Zoth Ommog acts Leæther Strip, X Marks the Pedwalk, and Evils Toy.

During the 1990s the band identified with M.A.C.O.S. (Musicians Against Copywriting of Samples), a movement that asserted that the fair use of sampled portions of music and movies should be legally available for reuse in artistic works.

Discography

 * Decoded Feedback - (CS) 1993 - no label
 * Elektroküte – (CS mini album) 1994 - no label
 * Overdosing – (CD album) 1996 - Hard Records, Cleopatra • (CD album) 2002 - Dying Culture
 * Technophoby – (CD album) 1997 - Zoth Ommog, Metropolis
 * Bio-Vital – (CD album) 1998 - Zoth Ommog • 1999 Metropolis
 * Evolution – (CD) 1999 - Zoth Ommog, Metropolis – #12 CMJ RPM Charts
 * Mechanical Horizon – (CD album) 2000 - Metropolis, Bloodline – #36 CMJ RPM Charts
 * "Reflect in Silence" – (CD maxi) 2000 - Bloodline
 * "Phoenix" – (CD maxi) 2002 - Out Of Line
 * Shockwave – (CD album, enhanced) 2003 - Metropolis, Out of Line • (CD album, enhanced) 2004 - Irond
 * BioMechanic – (2xCD) 2004 - Metropolis, Out of Line
 * Combustion – (CD album, enhanced) 2005 - Out of Line, Metropolis • (CD album, enhanced) 2005 - Irond
 * Aftermath – (CD album) 2010 - Metropolis, Dependent
 * disKonnekt - (CD album) 2012 - Metropolis, Dependent
 * Dark Passenger - (CD album) 2016 - Metropolis, Infacted Recordings

Other projects
The above soundtracks have not been released in any format other than in the movies themselves. Hyberia is a short 3 minute film by Francis T who directed the music videos for the Decoded Feedback songs "Phoenix" and "Hyberia" (the latter of which uses audio elements from the soundtrack). Red Men Rising is a 15 minute film about zombies, the soundtrack to which was recorded by Yone Dudas. Strangers at the Door is a feature film directed by Rogelio Salinas who also produced the band's music video for the song "Another Loss" from the album disKonnekt.
 * Hyberia – 2005, soundtrack
 * Red Men Rising – 2005, soundtrack, (Yone Dudas solo)
 * Strangers at the Door - 2017, soundtrack

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Campaign medal

A campaign medal is a military decoration which is awarded to a member of an armed force who serves in a designated military operation or performs duty in a geographical theater. Campaign medals are very similar to service medals but carry a higher status as the award usually involves deployment to a foreign region or service in a combat zone.

History
Campaign medals were first invented to recognize general military service in war, in contrast to meritorious decorations which were only issued on a small scale for acts of heroism and bravery. The campaign were first issued by the British military with the medal awarded for the defeat of the Invincible Armada, with the 1815 Waterloo Medal being the first awarded to all men present and the 1847 Military General Service Medal being the first "modern" campaign medal.

Campaign medals by country

 * Australian campaign medals
 * British campaign medals
 * Canadian campaign medals
 * Malaysian campaign medals
 * NATO Medal refers to a number of campaign medals
 * New Zealand campaign medals
 * Philippines campaign medals
 * Polish campaign medals
 * South African campaign medals
 * South Korean campaign medals
 * Soviet campaign medals
 * Spanish campaign medals
 * Sri Lankan campaign medals
 * United Nations Medal refers to a number of campaign medals
 * United States campaign medals are included in Awards and decorations of the United States military

Other campaign related items

 * Battle honour / Campaign streamer
 * Medal bar / Campaign clasp

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.375 Remington Ultra Magnum

The .375 Remington Ultra Magnum, also known as the .375 RUM is a .375 rifle cartridge introduced by Remington Arms in 2000. The cartridge is intended for large and dangerous game.

It is a beltless, rebated rim cartridge created by necking up the .300 Remington Ultra Magnum case to .375 caliber with no other changes. Factory loadings are less powerful than handloads for the cartridge. Remington factory loads produce 2,760 ft/s (840 m/s) with a 300 grain (19 g) bullet for 5,070 ft·lbf (6.88 kJ) of muzzle energy.

General information
The intended use of this cartridge includes hunting large, thick-skinned game. It is powerful enough to kill any land animal and, with its high velocity, can do so at fairly long ranges. Such performance comes at the price of a heavy recoil: in a sporting-weight rifle of ~8 lb (3.6 kg), this cartridge can produce a fierce 80 ft·lbf (108 J) of recoil (approximately 3.5 times that of a .30-06.)

There is a wide selection of .375 in (9.53 mm) bullets available  that are suited to the high velocities of the .375 RUM, and boat tail bullets help to further extend the useful range.

Currently, there are no production rifles in this chambering (Savage & Remington previously did so.) Remington, DoubleTap and Nosler are the only sources of factory ammunition. Loading dies and reloading data are readily available to the handloader. Double Tap loads to the specifications attributed to handloader limits.

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There is no image with that item you just added. Did you upload it correctly? - DavidWBrooks 01:46, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

What is the source for this flag? Flags of the World at does not mention it. --Mevsfotw 20:49, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

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The users listed on this page are able to contribute at the basic level of Nepali;

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