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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reuben Bolaffi

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was speedy delete. – ABCD✉ 23:29, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Reuben Bolaffi
Vanity from a nobody. Bobbis 23:24, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Totally vanity. Gwk 23:30, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete any article that says 'more information to come' in every section is clearly crap. --Stevefarrell 23:31, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn vanity. --Etacar11 00:46, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete non notable vanity. JamesBurns 06:41, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment I am the person in question and this was written by a freind as a joke. You can delete this article, it's just stupid.. 10:41, 24 July 2005 (AEST)
 * Speedy Delete. Under new criterion. --Canderson7 12:49, July 24, 2005 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Burning Tree Club

Burning Tree Club is a private, all-male golf club in Bethesda, Maryland. The course at Burning Tree has been played by numerous presidents, foreign dignitaries, high-ranking executive officials, members of Congress, and military leaders. The course was designed by architect C.H. Alison. The club has a strict policy forbidding women to enter the club, except under rare circumstances.

Location and founding
The Burning Tree Club was founded in 1922, supposedly in response to a male foursome from the Chevy Chase Club being stuck behind a slow-playing group of female golfers. The name of Burning Tree Club was named for the colorful leaves of a particularly large oak tree in the autumn on its grounds.

The club is located in Bethesda, Maryland, near Congressional Country Club, home of the 2011 U.S. Open golf tournament.

Fees
The initiation fee is $75,000, while membership fees are $500/month. Membership is exclusive with a cap around 600. The member list is private, and includes honoraria and retired golfers and can be achieved by invitation only.

Notable members and former members
Presidents including Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, and George Herbert Walker Bush have been extended honorary membership.

Until the appointment of Sandra Day O'Connor to the Supreme Court of the United States, the club had always extended honorary memberships to the Court's Justices; those who accepted include Associate Justice Antonin Scalia and former Chief Justice Warren Burger. Other notable members include:
 * Former Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-OH)
 * Former Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill (D-MA)
 * William Randolph Hearst
 * Former Senate Majority Leader Robert A. Taft (R-OH)
 * Edward R. Murrow
 * Former Senator John Warner (R-VA)
 * Former Senator Don Nickles (R-OK)
 * Bob Schieffer
 * Jack Valenti
 * George Smathers
 * Bryant Gumbel
 * Barry Goldwater
 * Bret Baier

Discrimination
There are no women's locker rooms or bathrooms at Burning Tree. No women are permitted inside the club at all, not even for service reasons or parties, with rare exceptions. A recent allowance was made for the spring cocktail party, and women are allowed into the pro shop in December to holiday shop for their husbands. They can do this only by appointment, during very restrictive hours, and only on Saturdays.

The exclusion of women has extended to Supreme Court Justices, as Sandra Day O'Connor was not invited to join. Even working female U.S. Secret Service agents have been turned away. Women U.S. Army EOD (explosive ordnance disposal) personnel have been turned away.

Popular culture
In the Seinfeld episode "The Bottle Deposit", Elaine bids on a set of golf clubs supposedly used by President John F. Kennedy at Burning Tree Club on the morning of the Bay of Pigs Invasion.

In the 1994 book "Watergate", author Fred Emery mentions Gordon Liddy tracking down U.S. Attorney General Richard Kleindienst the day after the Watergate break-in at a luncheon at the club after a round of eighteen holes and "violently gesturing" at him and soon going with him and Powell Moore of the Committee for the Re-Election of the President to a small room off the locker area where President Dwight D. Eisenhower was recalled to have played cards after a round on the Burning Tree course. In the book, after hearing that although John N. Mitchell did not ask directly, he personally requested that Kleindienst as Attorney General arrange for Watergate burgular James W. McCord, Jr. to be released before his true identity (as a former Central Intelligence Agency employee and security coordinator for CRP) was found out; Kleindienst, in a profanity-laced tirade, refused to do so, said that Mitchell "knows me well enough to call himself if he has anything more like that to say to me" for any such request, and that he couldn't and wouldn't do it.

In his 2021 novel "Into the Ether", author David Sherer portrays a scene where President Stanton discovers the case of the missing protagonist Dr. Adrian Wren while reading The Washington Post during lunch at Burning Tree Country Club.

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Talk:Naenara

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This page is not merely associated with the Korean government, it's their official webpage. It's hosted in Germany by KCC Europe GmbH http://www.kcc-europe.de/ as part of a joint venture to bring the Internet to North Korea. Yes, North Korea has internet. KCC are trying to get the .kp domain, but there are some legal issues for NK do not have a diplomatic representation in the US. HTH Kokiri 23:25, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

 * That does seem to be the case, but it's a little hard to figure out who is actually writing the content on the pages. Is there really somebody in Pyongyang putting it all together, and just sending it together for hosting, or is the KCC organization in Germany writing it under contract or cooperation with the NK government?  If it's really coming direclty from the NK government, that would be something really new as far as I can tell.  --Reuben 23:25, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:Tomdooner

Hi, welcome to wikipedia. While I appreciate your contribution to Wall Drug, I have to question your statistic in the Mirage. What is your source for $10,000 worth of electricity per day? That seems awfully high. I mean unbelievably high. Thanks. -R. fiend 23:26, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

I read it once somewhere and then I heard it on a tour yesterday... it is an outlandish number, that's true, but it's not entirely out of the realm of possibilities for a multi-billion dollar casino.

Feel free to remove it if you feel it's wrong. I mean, wrong information is worse than the lack of information, right?

 * If you heard it on an official tour of the casino I guess that's pretty good. I'm content to leave it for now, but you're right, incorrect info is worse than none.

 * Anyway, from your user page it seems you could use some pointers on Wikipedia. To leave messages for a person (me for example) it's easiest to click the name, then, on the left you'll either see a "discuss this page" link, or a "talk" at the top, depending on how you're running this. Click that to get to the talk page; this works for articles as well, which usually have some discussion of the content. Type what you want to say (usually at the bottom) and sign using four of these: ~

 * As you look around you'll pick up stuff. I've always said the best way to learn is to observe and then do. I've been here more than a year and I haven't read alot of the how-tos of WP; I've just picked stuff up. Good luck. -R. fiend 00:34, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

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Caribbeanist

A Caribbeanist is a scholar who specializes in the study of the Caribbean region of the Americas -- its literature, culture, politics, society, ecology and so forth. In some academic disciplines Caribbean studies are seen as a branch of the larger field of Latin American studies.

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Talk:Johan Hendrik Caspar Kern

Mahabharata and other transcription problems
I changed "Over de oudjavavaanse vertaling van Mahâbhârata" to "Over de oudjavavaanse vertaling van Mahābhārata" during copyediting; if the circumflex is in fact correct and the macron is incorrect, feel free to change it back and leave a note here so other editors don't make the same mistake. --Quuxplusone 23:26, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * You are absolutely right: the circumflex must have been a decrepit survival from an older bibliography. The macron is correct, where Sanskrit words are concerned. Thanks! Bessel Dekker 10:51, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

 * (BTW, to avoid future confusion, "oudja va vaanse" should of course be "oudjavaanse", but that is a minor matter. Bessel Dekker 10:53, 14 December 2005 (UTC) )

 * In keeping with modern practice, I have now (I hope) replaced all circumflexes by macrons (as in Pundarīka). Bessel Dekker 11:07, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Still pondering on transcription matters: for instance, Kern in his original 1862 title uses the transcription Çakuntalâ, whereas modern scholarship seems to prefer Śakuntalā. From a purist's point of view, then, the original titles in the Select Bibliography should be in the old-fashioned transcription, whereas the explanatory translations ought to be given in their modern spelling. However, for a general reader this might create more problems than it solves. For the moment, I am in favour of the use of macrons while leaving other diacritics, and letters, alone. Bessel Dekker 00:48, 15 December 2005 (UTC) (The more so since, on second thought, the Çakuntalā transcription is still used in modern scholarship, eliminating the above dilemma. Conclusion: circumflexes should become macrons, no other alterations are needed. Bessel Dekker 02:52, 17 December 2005 (UTC))

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User talk:Snarius

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Gallery articles up for deletion!
I noticed that these articles:
 * Gallery of Nintendo Entertainment System screenshots
 * Gallery of Super Nintendo Entertainment System screenshots
 * Gallery of Sega Mega Drive and Sega Genesis screenshots
 * Gallery of Sega Master System screenshots

that you worked on in the past are now are up for deletion. Would you vote in favor of keeping these articles? They show the history of the advancement of video game graphics over time and are useful as a source of images for graphics for video game articles. --ShaunMacPherson 20:03, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Taraful Haiducilor
When the title of a work includes a misspelling, it's not our prerogative to change it. That is exactly why (sic) is there, to indicate that the misspelling is in the original. - Jmabel | Talk 06:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Deletion review#List of interesting or unusual_place_names
Further to your views on the undeletion, you may be interested that the page was relisted on Articles for deletion/List of interesting or unusual place names (2nd nomination). Regards--A Y  Arktos 07:44, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/List of interesting or unusual place names (2nd nomination)
Despite the overwhelming support for keeping the list in article namespace, the above relisting was closed early. At Deletion review, the deletion is being reviewed once more (to restore the list from Wikipedia to article namespace (it's currently at List of interesting or unusual place names). -- User:Docu

Articles for deletion/David Morgan-Mar
Thank you for your vote on Articles for deletion/David Morgan-Mar. Usally people give a voting rationale, would you mind providing one as well? Cheers, —Ruud 22:05, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Blender
Hi there! I noticed you're one of the lead people behind the article on Blender and decided to ask you some questions you might know how to solve. It's partially related to my personal fascination with heraldry and partially with my Polish heraldry series.

Anyway, some time ago the French wikipedians started the Wikipédia:Projet/Blasons, a collaborative project to make PD coats of arms of all the communities of France. For some time they have been using a simple Blender template (check here) that adds a fancy 3D look to every coat of arms they make. I decided to give it a try and prepare a similar set of fancy-looking coats of arms for the English wiki. However, the problem is that outside of France many towns and countries use different kinds of escutcheons. At times it has no symbolic meaning and the exact shape of the coat of arms is not that important. However, when it comes to emblems of countries or towns, the matter gets a tad more complicated.

Because of that, I asked the author of that Blender template to prepare a set of similar templates with other shapes, notably the Polish modern and Finnish modern (better proportions here) and 15th century types, as these seem to be the most popular nowadays (other shapes are here). However, Rinaldum seems to be completely inactive these days and the last time he dropped in to French wiki was some time in February.

And here goes my question: could you prepare such templates yourself? I guess it shouldn't be that hard for someone who already has the shapes and knows Blender... I downloaded the software, but I get lost every time I do anything more than a simple F12 - F3... Or perhaps you know someone who could do it? Cheers Halibutt 22:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I've put those 3 designs in this template, but I get an error when trying to upload a .blend file. (It occurs on the french wp too.) I suppose I could email it to you.

 * I don't see why you need to use Blender, though. All that template does is add flat shading and specularity. I imagine you'd be better served by a GIMP template; that might look better and may be easier too.  --Snargle 04:16, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Strange, I wonder how those guys uploaded it to wiki. Anyway, I perhaps could do it with a GIMP template, though... well, I have no idea how to do it either. I'm a typical end-user who needs user-friendly step-by-step instructions... and the only instruction I could find was the one at the French wiki, with Blender used... Anyway, I would appreciate if you sent your work to halibutt (fancy sign) gmail.com, I'll ask User:Piotrus how do I upload it to wiki, perhaps he'd know the answer. BTW, what license should I use? Halibutt 16:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Sent it. I know nothing about GIMP either... I didn't mean you should rule out Blender, just that the template you pointed me to doean't give any 3d effects.  Actually, I'll see if I can do something about that. --Snargle 20:33, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

 * You're my hero anyways, but if you managed to do something even more fancy with the template, that'd mean you'd be my super-hero :) Halibutt 23:19, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry to bother you again, but I just noticed a small problem with the template.. Apart from the original shield, all the rest load the image upside down. Any ideas how to fix that the easy way? Of course I could do it by turning the image 180deg with GIMP, but I guess there is some easier way... Yeah, I know, I'm a complete idiot when it comes to 3d modelling. Once I made a 7TP tank and a TKS tankette with 3dsmax, but it took me ages and even then the models were somewhat choppy. And blender seems way more complicated than 3dsmax... Halibutt 23:29, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Selecting the shields and pressing CTRL-A will apply size and rotation. That should correct it. Snargle 00:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Wikithanks Ribbon.png|50px|Thanks]] I guess it's magic, but it worked. Thanks again, I owe you a beer :) Now the tough part is to upload it somewhere, but there must be a way to do it. Halibutt 05:32, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Cleaning Lady
Actually, there's no error. Cleaning Lady is a sockpuppet of Zephram Stark. He plays this game regularly, at least once a day, pretending to be a new editor, and eventually getting blocked, all the while protesting his innocence. Unfortunately, you're just his latest victim. Jayjg (talk) 22:43, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

My bad. I thought the ban was an mistake because the sockpuppet tag you put up pointed to the wrong sockpuppets on RCU. Does this mean probably didn't get permission for the image he uploaded? The permission blurb(see img description) seems kinda suspect. --Snargle 03:45, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Google OS
An article about the Google OS rumors was previously voted on (Articles for deletion/Google OS) and deleted. If I had noticed the Goobuntu article before the admins deleted the article, I might have just redirected it. But an admin responded to the speedy tag very quickly. Gazpacho 00:49, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I see. Thanks for the explanation. --Snargle 02:03, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

from 0waldo
Please stop your destructive editing of my editing work at wikipedia. Thank you. 0waldo.

I see you've been blocked for a week. Tell all your anonymous fans and sisters I said hi. Snargle 23:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Sandbox/Wikistory (Sentence)
Brookie here - you might be interested in the above, which has just started! Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 06:57, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Cool! --Snargle 17:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome from Starionwolf
Hi, I saw your welcome message on my the page of my IP address. I saw your message before I logged into my new account. Well, if you would excuse me, I need to finish reading Wikipedia's documentation and FAQs. Bye Starionwolf 04:55, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, no problem. You may want to make a userpage. --Snargle 05:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I finally made a user page. I'll add more to it when I get a chance.  --Starionwolf 04:40, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Cool. --Snarius 08:14, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

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DIY culture
I have Sarge/Owen's talk page watched (along with DIY culture). It's still there, and it doesn't look like it's been deleted recently. Owen's |deletion log doesn't show it either. Are you sure that's the page you're talking about?  Ungovernable Force  Got something to say? 06:15, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I'm sure. It must be a wp bug. On the deletion log, it says:
 * 12:19, 16 March 2006 Sarge Baldy (Talk | contribs) deleted "DIY culture" (Deleted to make way for move.)
 * --Snarius 06:23, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I didn't look all the way back to March 16. That's a pretty long time ago. But if you got to the deletion log, how did you not get to the page? It's right here. You do see it now, right?  Ungovernable Force  Got something to say? 06:29, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

 * No, I definately don't see it. For me it says: Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for DIY culture in Wikipedia to check...
 * refreshing, clearing cache, logging out/in all, and non-gecko browsers don't fix it. --Snarius 06:40, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Mentaka
RAWR! How dare you deprive me of my glorious stubs?! Darn you and your unorganized desktop!

--Mentaka 13:44, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Your desktop is mine now. --Snarius 20:53, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Mednafen
Consider me stupid - but I would appreciate a detailed explanation on how this thing meets my little guideline. - CrazyRussian talk/email 18:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I think Mednafen is the only modern emulator for several systems that is available, expecially on linux. Why exactly do you want to delete it? The topic may be a little bit obscure but people have already worked on it (not a lot, but some), and the article is not doing any harm. After checking out that debian popularity test thing, I conclude that there might be some disagreement in a rfd but it would pass because it's an interesting topic and important emulator (fills a big niche). --Snarius 20:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

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The Inside (TV series)

The Inside is an American crime drama television series created by Tim Minear and Howard Gordon and produced by Imagine Television. The Inside follows the work of the FBI's Los Angeles Violent Crimes Unit (VCU), a division dedicated to investigating particularly dangerous crimes. The Inside initially aired on the Fox Network from June 8 to July 13, 2005. Although thirteen episodes were produced, Fox aired only seven episodes before canceling the series. Thirteen episodes were subsequently aired on ITV4 in the UK in 2006.

Premise
Rookie FBI Agent Rebecca Locke (Rachel Nichols) joins the Los Angeles Violent Crimes Unit (VCU) after the death of a previous member. While she proves to be a brilliant investigator, she has a secret known only to herself and the VCU's mysterious director Virgil "Web" Webster (Peter Coyote): that as a 10-year-old girl, Rebecca was kidnapped from her home and held captive for 18 months. Astonishingly enough, no one found and rescued her; she escaped the trauma all by herself, setting a fire and escaping in the resulting chaos. Webster manipulates Rebecca's experience on each case, using the insight she gained through it to establish the mindset of the victim—and the criminal.

Another sidebar to the plot is the moral struggle between Webster, who seems willing to use Rebecca's gift to catch the "unsub" at all costs, and Rebecca's partner Paul Ryan (Jay Harrington), who views himself as the voice of conscience in the battle for Rebecca's soul. Additionally, Webster's past is very much unknown; viewers are left wondering exactly how much he has in common with the perpetrators he pursues.

Cast and characters

 * Rebecca Locke (Rachel Nichols) is the rookie field agent brought in by Web, who wishes to use her gift to his advantage. She is able to put herself in the shoes of the victims, since she was one herself. This makes her excellent at getting inside the mind of a killer. Series creator Minear described her as a "character with no inside," hence the show's title. With clear trust issues and a lack of a social life, she slowly grows to like her colleagues more as the series progressed.
 * Danny Love (Adam Baldwin) is an ex-marine who is blunt and crude, but not without his own morals and has a certain rapport with Agent Melody Sim. He often leads assaults on crime scenes. Originally his name was to be Danny Coulter.
 * Melody "Mel" Sim (Katie Finneran) is a quick-witted, intelligent and friendly agent who often mourns her lack of social life and shares a friendship with Danny.
 * Carter Howard (Nelsan Ellis) is the technological go-to guy of the group, making an appearance whenever the team needs technological expertise.
 * Paul Ryan (Jay Harrington) is a young, married agent who Web chose to be his 'conscience'. Idealistic and kind, he sees things in black and white. He is often paired up with Agent Locke, which leads him to discover her past secret. On more than one occasion, he and Web have clashed based on differing principles. Originally, his name was to be Paul Fatorre.
 * Virgil "Web" Webster (Peter Coyote): The supervisor. He is not married as far as we can tell. He chose his squad based on their secrets, their weaknesses and their strengths. He is known to push his agents to the max, especially Agent Locke, much to the disgust of Agent Ryan. He is also known to bend the rules or justify actions.

Production
Originally produced by Kathryn Bigelow, the original premise centered around a 23-year-old woman, Rebecca Locke (Rachel Nichols), posing as a 16-year-old high school student in order to investigate a drug ring. Peter Facinelli was also attached to star. In September 2004, it was announced that Tim Minear would redevelop the series as original creators/executive producers Todd Kessler and Glenn Kessler exited the series. It was also revealed that Brian Grazer, Ron Howard and David Nevins would executive produce the series. In December 2004, Facinelli opted out of the series after Minear revamped the premise to feature Rebecca Locke as young FBI agent working for the L.A. bureau's Violent Crimes Unit. Later in December 2004, Jay Harrington was cast, taking over the role from Facinelli; and Adam Baldwin joined the cast, who worked with Minear on Firefly. In May 2005, Fox announced the series would premiere June 8, 2005, airing Wednesdays at 9:00 pm. Fox aired seven episodes (although out of production order) before canceling the series due to low ratings.

Episodes
Seven episodes originally aired on Fox between June 8 and July 13, 2005. The other six episodes that were unaired by Fox first aired in the UK on ITV4 in 2006.

Fox aired the episodes out of order. The episode listing below is the correct viewing order, not the airing order. Creator Tim Minear posted the correct episode order on his website.

title: The Inside (TV series)


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Talk:Big Show

What I Removed
I removed the ridiculous idea that it might have actually been a car accident with Del Rio's ring announcer and that it might have actually happened and been put on Monday Night Raw. That is utterly ridiculous. The INJURY might have been real but from another incident. However, the scenario they gave was simply for TV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.130.110.75 (talk) 04:01, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Odd
For some reason on the article it says that there is a unexpected error and the info box stuff isn't there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.116.57.122 (talk) 17:15, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Reverted to a previous edit and removed a sentence, though if you spot anything else, don't hesitate to have a go! :) Captain Alaric (talk) 22:49, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Gigantism
He is on the List of humans with gigantism but is there any proof of this? I see no citation He looks like hes just really big. Toxicsmog (talk) 06:36, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Not anymore, but he used to. It's in the article (sources 89 and 90). Here is what Jim Ross said on his blog: "And no, he doesn’t have the “Andre Disease,” but did at one time, but was cured. ".  TJ   Spyke   20:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Youngest World Champion
Shouldnt it be noted that Show was the youngest world champion at the age of 23 years in pro wrestling history —Preceding unsigned comment added by ShanRaj 10 (talk • contribs) 09:19, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * He's not the youngest world champion in history. The youngest would be Lou Thesz, who won the National Wrestling Association World Heavyweight Championship (the title that would become the National Wrestling Alliance World Heavyweight Championship) at age 21.  TJ   Spyke   19:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Current weight
What reliable source are you getting Big Show's weight from, and secondly, is this even his current weight because last year he weighed in at 441 lbs. Danny Boy 420 (talk) 00:00, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's from WWE.com, although they list 2 different weights (441 and 485).  TJ   Spyke   00:11, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I take it that 485 is his current weight? Danny Boy 420 (talk) 02:07, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I've been watching a lot of wrestling videos and during the fights Big Show is always billed as weighing 500 pounds. Should we change this? They always say he's the 7 foor 500 pounder. Why don't you check this video out to verify it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl5kgj39sXY wait until big show shows up because the video starts with the commentator talking about the undertaker and the great khali.

Thanks 189.189.165.214 (talk) 00:20, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The weights constantly fluctuate. Since a source is needed, we use whatever WWE.com currently bills him as in his profile. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:33, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

 * It's odd because a few years ago he was billed as 7'2 and 500 lbs. Should this be mentioned? -- The Taerkasten  ( talk ) 19:16, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

 * He was introduced at 397 pounds at Smackdown on October 21st 2011. Seems as if WWE brings in more realism as they lowered most weights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.1.146.124 (talk) 18:15, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

On WWE.com, his weight is billed as 450 lbs. Why do you guys keep on changing this to 395 and so on? Dragonforce9898 (talk) 18:52, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Last night on Raw the JOJO said Big Show weighs 395lbs.

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Consensus is to move the article to Big Show (wrestler)  GB fan  04:39, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Paul Wight → Big Show — I still don't know why the name of the article is Paul Wight, I cannot recall the Big Show ever wrestling under his real name. He has won every title in his career under his ring name Big Show and The Giant as far as I know. This is a really good example of an article that should go under the name that people know him by. Nascar  king  17:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Big Show (wrestler) or The Big Show (wrestler) would be better. Big Show is currently a redirect to the disambiguation page The Big Show, both of which should remain as-is.  Powers T 13:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * We're supposed to put articles under the names people know them by the most. Why is this one not. As far as I know, when most people think of the Big Show, they think of the Big Show, not his real name.-- Nascar   king  00:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I said nothing about whether the page should remain at the current title. I suggested that "Big Show" ought to remain a redirect to the disambiguation page.  Powers T 12:26, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry.-- Nascar   king  22:31, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Well I think since no one has contested this that we should move this to Big Show (wrestler).-- Nascar   king  18:52, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

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Big Show Heel Turn of 2011.
I don't think he turned heel, it was just a payback from the week before. Besides, if you look at the Smackdown taping, he's laughing along with Kane, who is face right now. 108.41.197.74 (talk) 22:33, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Colossus Clutch
Does that count as a special move or a finisher?122.60.240.224 (talk) 06:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Height and Weight
The article uses an older source, http://i56.tinypic.com/oihtzd.jpg for Big Show's height. Shouldn't we use a more updated source http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/bigshow/ instead? Starship.paint (talk) 02:44, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

 * WWE's height is his billed height, and has varied, as shown in above sections, for a number of years.-- Tærkast (Discuss) 17:43, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Personal Life
The information about a divorce from his second wife and having 2 children with her really needs a better source. IMDB.com is not completely reliable and I haven't found another, more reliable source that states this information. Just thought I'd share that on here. (MgTurtle (talk) 02:37, 1 October 2011 (UTC))

AJ/Bryan/Show
Some idiot had put AJ was killed so fixed it to show she was inadvertently knocked out and taken out on a stretcher. Also fixed the HORRIBLE spelling before it. Also took out that he turned heel in the process. We dont know for sure since Show was upset afterwards and crowd wasnt booing him. I would say Bryan is slowly turning heel since acquiring the championship before I would put Show as a heel. -KV

Inverted Leg Drop
I seem to remember it was the Chokeslam(sometimes a falling version, as in he went all the way to an almost prone position with the opponent in hand) that was the Show Stopper finisher. The Inverted Leg Drop was usually referred to as the Hog Log by the announcers.202.156.11.12 (talk) 14:41, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 May 2012
On May 7th episode of Raw, Big Show mocked Raw GM John Laurenitis voice and was forced to apologize, which he reluctently did. On the Friday night Smackdown, John Laurenitis pulled his version of the "Montreal Screw Job" and rang the bell when Daniel Bryan put Show into the Yes Lock, then the Raw GM told Big Show he will apologize on the May 14th episode of Raw. On the May 14th episode of Raw, Show went head to head with Kane. At the end of the match Mr. Laurenitis demanded his apology during the match, which resulted in Kane choke slamming Show for the 1-2-3! Afterwards the Raw GM demanded his apology from The Big Show, he apologized, which wasn't enough. Mr Laurenitis then demanded Show to apologize on his knees, Show refused and apologized, and the Raw GM exited the ring, got to the stage and wished Big Show well in his future endeavors, and terminated The Big Show.

The above is what i want to submit to be changed, people keep putting stupid stuff like on may 14th big show was terminated and then commited suicide, this is bull and what im submitting above is a last 2 weeks of the big shows wwe tenure

Goodolejr83 (talk) 02:51, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: What is in the article currently (see ) is sufficient detail. Thanks, Nici  Vampire  Heart  16:41, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Douche Baggery
So after a week I can make comedic posts that people will actually enjoy on the internets again? ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcismyman (talk • contribs) 05:59, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Chokeslam
The Chokeslam has been Show's finisher since he was The Giant in WCW, so why is it listed under 'Signature Moves'? Sure, he doesn't use it as much as he used to since now he usually uses the WMD as his finisher, but I think the Chokeslam should still be placed under 'Finishers'. Oh, and one of the above users is correct, during his current stint as Big Show, the Chokeslam has been referred to as the 'Show Stopper', and his old Leg Drop finisher was called 'The Final Cut'. AugustWinterman 14:20, 26 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.230.56.107 (talk)

Just a notice
Show's WCW entry starts with him attempting to regain the title at WW3, completely missing... the entirety of his early career. I have no idea how far back in the revisions it would have to go, but it's missing and it's kind of silly that it is.174.63.90.238 (talk) 19:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

hi big show
big show do good on that mach you vs the seld                                                                                sencerly a fan gabriel poe  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.143.229.118 (talk) 20:57, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

weight
he's billed at 425lbs now — Preceding unsigned (talk) 09:46, 23 August 2013 - added by  Sakib14 (talk) 08:33, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Contract errors
At the beginning of the WWF section it says Big Show signed a 10 year contract in early 1999. Then in 2007, it says his contract expired in early 2007 and he went on hiatus. Well there's only 8 years between 1999 and 2007. Someone needs to get the fact straight about the contract or explain what happened to those 2 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kfn8r (talk • contribs) 08:22, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit request, 30 November 2013
there is a typo at the end of Feud with the Authority (2013–present). it should read "sent home due to head ..." not "sent home do to head ...."

Greenoaks (talk) 10:30, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Yes check.svg Done. Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 16:53, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Most of the things are missing

 * Big Show and Rey Mysterio competed together more the tag time titles in a fatal 4 way match between them, Cody Rhodes and Goldust, Ryback and Curtis Axel and the Real Americans.
 * Big Show challenged Brock Lesnar to compete with him in the royal rumble on miz tv. I 11:39, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Retirement
Big Show has not retired. Why does the article state this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.63.15 (talk) 12:38, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Block
Someone is messing up this page Sabre3430 (talk) 04:19, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

This page needs to be protected Manuel2k16 (talk) 01:39, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

BNB inclusion
To elaborate on special:diff/738789074 from the earliest archive I have found, OWOW has always listed it as BNB not TBNB, so the cited source did not support the inclusion of any preceding articles to this phrase:

I am wondering if anyone can find any corresponding sources to support this though. It would be ideal if we could, considering the inflammatory nature of the phrase. Recently I have become aware to people objecting on the grounds of BLP when nicknames are potentially offensive.

Firstly, here is a source showing the article subject voluntarily using the term "Bastard" to reference himself, so I believe that aspect of the title should be considered acceptable for that reason:

The above might also support an argument for the creation of the redirect of Extreme Giant and/or the Extreme Giant to here, but I suppose I'll open the floor to some feedback before proceeding, since I've recently been getting some flack of being too WP:BOLD with this. am actually going to just go ahead and just make the first one since I can see made the second in October 2006 and it has gone uncontested.

The "Nasty" aspect I did manage to find used by Big Boss Man during a feud. I'm not sure the date/number of the episode but a clip of it is here. He doesn't prefix Nasty with "Big" though, so I'm still unclear as to where OWOW got that part of the name from.

I did notice the mention of "Big Nasty" in the second paragraph of Big Show which makes me wonder if OWOW possibly just synthesized 2 nicknames into one. The entire paragraph appears to lack a source though, the one I found in the next one is just confirming Show beat BossMan at Armageddon for the title. Tagged that, perhaps if we can confirm if/when he was called Big Nasty that could shed some light on this.

Edit: okay after some extreme digging, you can clearly see him wearing a shirt saying "Big Nasty Bastard" on the front of it when he enters for the fatal 4-way at WrestleMania 2000. Much as I would like to link to an official video confirming this, you can see at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OQ-Ygsy0k&t=49 they craftily only show clips where his shirt is visible from behind (which only says Big Show on the back) so I'm not sure if WWE still have evidence of that available to display.

What really amazes me though... is I went and flipped through http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/16/wrestlemania2000-photos and in the images where you should be able to see his shirt from the front (25 of 32 and 26 of 32) it only appears to be black on the front.

Is anyone able to verify what I'm saying by watching a copy of this? I don't know if they would still air the uncensored version on the WWE Network or not. If they did censor it like they did with these two photographs then an original VHS recording might be needed pre-censorship from the Attitude Era. All I know is, the means by which I am watching a clip of his entrance and competition in this match, the 'BNB' insignia is on the front of the shirt. So I know the fact but... finding a sourced mention of it from a reliable site is still a chore. Ranze (talk) 05:08, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

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Big show is in a feud currently with Braun strowman to see who's the big giant monster King Jake (talk) 13:05, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 June 2017
There are a few mistakes I noticed in the article that need to be fixed, the Infobox. His correct weight according to the source next to it is he is 383 lbs and he and it says 1994 is when he made his debut, 1995 is when he made his debut. According to the article itself about his career with WCW, he made his debut in 1995 not 1994. 2600:1000:B022:3467:C8DA:5E90:B91:BC76 (talk) 12:58, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done: The billed weight was corrected to be consistent with the provided source and the debut year was corrected to be consistent with the rest of the article. Thank you for helping to improve this article. — KuyaBriBri Talk 14:09, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2017
His debut info in the Infobox has been changed back to 1994 again. Don't know who keeps changing it, but the sources itself says he debuted in 1995 in WCW, not 1994. 2600:1000:B025:BAE0:2146:2A86:DF16:7F47 (talk) 15:05, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 04:19, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

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False report on big show retiring
Big show comment on the report stating he never retired, he just never signed a new contract TheKinkdomMan (talk) 20:57, 7 March 2018 (UTC) TheKinkdomMan (talk) 20:57, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Retired?
In an interview in 2017, Big Show said that he would retire at the end of his contract in February 2018. Since then his contract has expired and there has been no news about him retiring or returning. Whats going on? The Optimistic One (talk) 01:40, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The only source used for his "retirement" is The Sun, which is a tabloid and unreliable per WP:PW/RS. Has anyone else reported this?LM2000 (talk) 05:30, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * There has not been any type of announcement stating he retired, he just never signed a new contract. That doesn't mean he's retired. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 11:43, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

I just read that show is signed to a agents contract until he resigns to a competing contract TheKinkdomMan (talk) 14:45, 12 March 2018 (UTC) TheKinkdomMan (talk) 14:45, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Big Show's contract expired.
So does this mean he no longer work's for WWE? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeptchjijihhtgghbyjhhmkkkl (talk • contribs) 15:55, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Ok, my bad I didn't understand it before, no I get it his contract expired so he is alumni now. No need to reply, sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeptchjijihhtgghbyjhhmkkkl (talk • contribs) 16:00, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Lead rewrite
I tagged the article lead since it does not summarize his career, just lists his accomplishments. This is against the WP:PW manual of style for article leads. It also should probably be longer, four paragraphs is recommended and it should be that long considering the length of this article. StaticVapor message me!   06:34, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Tag... fix... tag.... fix.... tag? Well I made a constructive choice. MPJ-DK (talk) 22:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Summarize the most significant events in the wrestler's career for which they are known, including their stints in promotions, and any championships, accomplishments, and awards that they have won. Tallies of the overall championships or world championships won should be avoided. - So outside of "he worked for WCW from blah-to-blah, WWE from here-to-there" it covers everything he style guide. Nothing listed is "against the manual of style" - afterall aren't the main accomplishments in pro wrestling championships and tournaments? But I guess missing the dates he worked for companies is complex enough problem that you could not solve it in the same time it took to tag it? Hint, it's in the headlines so you could add it instantly. MPJ-DK (talk) 23:01, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The lead does not adequately summarize his career. I don't see how saying he worked for this company for these years and he worked for this company for these years, and it yeah he won these titles..., is enough to summarize a 20 year main event career. Major storylines and events should be detailed throughout. StaticVapor message me!   04:04, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 October 2019
In his "Personal life" section of the article, the info about his assault on a guy in 1999 should be a separated info as "Legal troubles" if someone can make that little edit fix, that would be fine.

As Example here:

"==Personal life=="

Like André the Giant, Wight used to have acromegaly, a disease of the endocrine system.[212] By the age of twelve, Wight was 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) tall, weighed 220 lb (100 kg), and had chest hair. In 1991, as a member of the Wichita State University basketball team at age nineteen, Wight was listed at 7 ft 1 in (2.16 m). He underwent successful surgery in the early 1990s on his pituitary gland, which halted the progress of this condition. His shoe size is 22 5E, his ring size is 22, and his chest is 64 inches (1,600 mm) in circumference. In 2005, Wight leased a bus and hired a bus driver because of the practical problems his size presents to air travel and car rental.

Wight played basketball and American football in high school at Wyman King Academy in Batesburg-Leesville, South Carolina. He was a standout center for the basketball team and a tight end for the football team. He quit football after his freshman year, because of disputes with the coach. He continued to support the team by joining the cheerleading squad as a sophomore, partly from spite. He later called it "the greatest experience of my life... everybody else was riding a bus with sweaty equipment and I'm in a van with seven cheerleaders who are all learning about life". The van (a Ford Econoline) was driven by "a mom who was deaf in her right ear and chain-smoked".

While at Wichita State University, Wight played basketball. Prior to attending Wichita State University, Wight attended Northern Oklahoma Junior College in Tonkawa, Oklahoma, competing on the basketball team. At Northern Oklahoma, his averages of 14 points and 6.5 rebounds earned him all-conference honors and helped the team win the Western Division of the Oklahoma Bi-State Conference. Wight also attended Southern Illinois University Edwardsville from 1992 to 1993, was a member of the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) Division II Cougars basketball team, and is a member of the Xi Beta chapter of Tau Kappa Epsilon fraternity at Southern Illinois University-Edwardsville. During his one year at SIUE, Wight scored a total of thirty-nine points for the Cougars in limited action.[218]

Wight married his first wife, Melissa Ann Piavis, on February 14, 1997. They separated in 2000 and their divorce was finalized on February 6, 2002. Together, they have a daughter. On February 11, 2002, he married his second wife, Bess Katramados. Together they have two children.

"==Legal Troubles=="

In March 1999, Wight was charged with assault by Robert Sawyer, who alleged that Wight had broken his jaw during the summer of 1998 in the course of an altercation at Marriott Hotels & Resorts in Uniondale, New York. Wight claimed that Sawyer had verbally abused, threatened, and shoved him, and that he had responded by punching Sawyer. After three days, Judge Thomas Feinman delivered a verdict of not guilty 2600:1000:B07B:F4A6:404B:A4AB:664A:BFD6 (talk) 02:34, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Putting a top-level heading there would create a very short section that places quite a bit of emphasis on something that appears to be a fairly minor incident. If he has had other legal issues that would expand on the section then I could see a separate section, but otherwise without consensus to change this I don't see a reason to do so. ‑‑ El Hef  ( Meep? ) 12:51, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Personal life II
in the section Personal life "Like André the Giant, Wight used to have acromegaly, a disease of the endocrine system" is incorrect and erroneous and should be reworded to something like ""Like André the Giant, Wight was affected by acromegaly, a disease of the endocrine system, while Andre never treated his condition, wright treated his in and has since stopped growing" or such.

Go wrestling team! 121.99.108.78 (talk) 10:59, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2020
My request is to add Big Show's newest series from Netflix, it is titled "The Big Show Show" which has 1 season and was started on April 6th, 2020. OmenBlizzard (talk) 23:08, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --allthefoxes (Talk) 00:07, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Brief edit request
"In a match filmed during WrestleMania 36, which aired on the April 6 episode of Raw, Show reverted back to a heel after insulting and challenging newly-crowned WWE Champion Drew McIntyre for his title, Show was subsequently defeated."

The comma between "Raw" and "Show" should probably be replaced with the word "wherein" in order to make the sentence work, structurally.

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2020
Add additional Television role of Carnage on Van Helsing (2019) Tomsouthard (talk) 19:01, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  JTP (talk • contribs) 23:23, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Redirect to Paul Wight?
Bit of a controversial one but all AEW-related material appears to call him by his real name rather than the Big Show. What's the protocol regarding redirecting this article to his real name? We all know what WWE are like when it comes to intellectual property; if AEW were allowed to use the name 'Big Show' at all they would've used it already. I'm seeing mixed results regarding wrestlers when they change ring names - of all AEW wrestlers that use names they previously used in WWE/F, the majority are either a) real names or variants thereof (Matt Hardy, Jake Hager, mononymous Cody), or b) ones that go back even further than their time in WWE/F (Sting, Chris Jericho). Most wrestlers I can think of whose names were actually created by WWE, their Wikipedia articles no longer use those names and instead favour their current ones. Jon Moxley, Shawn Spears and Brodie Lee's articles are headed by their current (or last in Lee's case, may he rest in peace) ring names. Miro, on the other hand, still redirects to Rusev. Granted, way more people know him by Big Show and probably will continue to refer to him going forward but if that name is, to all intents and purposes, no longer used, would a factual encyclopedia entry not benefit from being headed by the name his current employer uses, i.e. his real name? What's the consensus? Afreoleidddra (talk) 22:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * too soon. He has been known as Big Show for 20 years. At this point, it the wp:commonname. About your question, is more like a fight betwee wp:namechange and wp:commonname. For example, Erick Rowan has worked for years under that name, there is no point to change it to Erik Redbeard, which is more obscure, even if he used the name now. Wight has been known worldwide as big show for 20 years, his real name is less known. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 22:13, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That's a fair point but your example isn't really a direct comparison; Erick Redbeard is just another stage name he adopted this year, Paul Wight has been known as Paul Wight his entire life. Not as well-known, as we both acknowledge, but birth names don't come and go between promotions. Do we know of any other active wrestlers whose Wiki articles is their well-known ring name but currently go by their real name to serve as a reasonable precedent? Afreoleidddra (talk) 02:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Paul Wight has been known as Big Show for 20 years and as The Giant in WCW. Even if Paul Wight is his real name, he is best known by the stagename of Big Show. Most ringnames work as stage names. At the end, it's a case-per-case scenario. We change the name of Jack Swagger since he was a lot of coverage as Jake Hager due to AEW and Bellator. Same for Emma / Tenille Dashwood. We changed the names since they are best known under their real name because their work. On the other hand, we have wrestlers that still best known for their work in WWE (Enzo Amore, Konnor and Viktor, No Way Jose) and there is no point to change the names into more obscure ones (nZo, Big Kon, Vik). --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 08:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Again, not really a direct comparison on two fronts; Firstly, nZo et al all work on the indies now, of course their new ring names will be more obscure than their WWE. AEW really isn't on the same level of obscurity. Secondly, to reiterate my last point, they're new ring names. Not their birth names. He's been referred to by some circles as Paul Wight a lot longer than Eric Arndt has been referred to as nZo, or even Enzo Amore. Lastly, Wight's done a fair bit of acting and most non-WWE-affiliated productions have him credited as Paul Wight, not the Big Show. Outside the wrestling sphere, the name Paul Wight has been used before and now, inside the wrestling sphere, will be used more extensively than ever before. If right here, right now is too soon, how long does he have to not be called the Big Show any more to justify a change? Afreoleidddra (talk) 10:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That's why it's a case-by-case. We changed Swagger's name when he came into AEW, before that, he was working in a very minor promotions. It's different working as Paul Wight on WXW rather than NJPW or AEW. However, he is best known for his pro wrestling carrer, not as an actor and 20 years is a big time period. If Undertaker leaves WWE and works as Mark Callaway, his common name would be The Undertaker. How long? I don't know. You can open a discussion right now if you want. For me, I would wait until see Wight's work in AEW. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:32, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * there was also that show, that only finished airing 4 months ago, The Big Show Show.Muur (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That was produced, in part, by WWE. That's why I specified non-WWE-affiliated productions to make my point. Besides, this discussion is pretty much open and shut now, unless you have any new arguments for or against a name change. Afreoleidddra (talk) 11:21, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2021
Is there by any chance if someone can change his occupations around? We all know he is an actor, but he’s most notably known as a professional wrestler.

As shown here on what it should look like when fixed:

“is an American actor, professional wrestler, and professional wrestling commentator.” to is an American professional wrestler, actor, and professional wrestling commentator.” 73.61.16.120 (talk) 14:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. ◢  Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 15:09, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Peler
Anjing lu Fadly pukimak 180.242.214.47 (talk) 15:29, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

 * Huh? 130.45.24.168 (talk) 05:36, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Attitude Era
Request to include at least one mention and link to Attitude Era in article, as Big Show debuted in WWF during AE and was a major star/champion during AE. 130.45.24.168 (talk) 02:58, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

 * Done. McPhail (talk) 09:18, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2023
Change “acromegaly” to “gigantism”. Acromegaly is a condition that occurs when too much human growth hormone is produced after growth plates have closed. If someone is born with an excess production of human growth hormone, it is called gigantism. Sources: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/acromegaly/symptoms-causes/syc-20351222 https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/acromegaly/ https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/acromegaly TownJester64 (talk) 02:59, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The previous source from the WP article was dead and I couldn't find an archive of it, so I found a news article reporting on this subject. Presuming the original source named his condition as "acromegaly", the news article I've found also names it as "acromegaly". Changing this to "gigantism" based upon the sources you've provided would constitute original research. --Pinchme123 (talk) 00:21, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2023
Jordonzest (talk) 06:30, 29 May 2023 (UTC) https://www.allsmartadvice.com/who-is-bess-katramados-know-her-age-height-married-life-net-worth/Big Show Wife
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lightoil (talk) 07:57, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2023
Add to Film/Television: Guest appearance on Highlander (TV series) Season 3 Episode 6. Bkeyak (talk) 02:24, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

 * Hi, I can't seem to find any reference to him being in it on IMDB or news articles? Do you have any refs to confirm this before I add it. Thanks :) Lewcm Talk to me! 10:16, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Ring Name
He was "Giant" in WCW not "THE Giant. He also signed his name as "Giant"

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 * Keep, Looking at the revisions, the latest seems good, worthy of keeping I think. The product is getting fairly well known, I've used it myself and I'm friends with several International FIDE tournament players and I know a couple of them use it. Dutch1124 0:30, July 16, 2005 (UTC)


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Jean-Baptiste Krumpholz

Jean-Baptiste Krumpholz (Czech: Jan Křtitel Krumpholtz) (8 May 1742 – 19 February 1790) was a Czech composer and harpist who lived in the Holy Roman Empire.

Biography
Krumpholz was born in, near Zlonice. He was the brother of Wenzel Krumpholz, violinist and mandolin player. He learned music from his father while growing up in Paris; in 1773 he played a successful harp concerto in the Burgtheater in Vienna. After serving three years in Count Esterházy's court orchestra (1773–1776), during which he is said to have taken counterpoint lessons with Joseph Haydn, he embarked on a successful concert tour of Europe. In Paris and Metz, he worked along with manufacturers Jean Henri Naderman, his son François Joseph Naderman, and Sébastien Érard towards improving the construction of the harp. He composed concertos and sonatas for harp and chamber music.

Krumpholz drowned himself in the Seine after his wife—former pupil Anne-Marie Krumpholtz (1755–1824), also a virtuoso harpist—eloped to London, although the story that this was with pianist Jan Ladislav Dussek is apocryphal.

Style
Krumpholz composed 52 sonatas, 6 concertos and many preludes and variations for the harp. He wrote also harp duets, quartets and 4 sonatas for harp, 2 violins, 2 French horns and cello.

Selected works
 * Sonate für Flöte oder Violine und Harfe oder Klavier (published by H. J. Zingel in 1933)
 * Sonata B dur pro harfu (Sonata in B-flat major for Harp) (published in 1935 by M. Zunová)
 * Concertus in SI b mai ab arpa cum choro musico

Articles

 * Floraleda Sacchi, Krumpholtz, Aulia, 2005. download

CD

 * Floraleda Sacchi, J.K. Krumpholtz: Sei Sonate op. 8 per flauto e arpa (Aulia, 2005).

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/OmniNerd

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The result of the debate was delete. Dmcdevit·t 08:24, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

OmniNerd
Non-notable web site. From the article: "Since its inception, OmniNerd has seen moderate growth surpassing 100 registered users in the summer of 2005." 680 Google hits. tregoweth 23:34, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Advert. Gwk 23:35, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable website. -- BD2412 talk 00:08, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. My personal standard for forum notability is 1000 members.  Come back in another order of magnitude.  Almafeta 16:25, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm the page's primary author.  Two reasons have been listed thus far, both of which are not grounds to delete a page.  First, if the Omninerd page should be deleted because it is considered an 'advertisement' then other similar pages covering webpages (such as slashdot) should also be deleted for the same reason.  Second, there is nothing in the Wikipedia deletion policy that lists a certain popularity level as requisite for coverage in Wikipedia.  If the page is to be deleted, there needs to be a concrete reason as defined in the deletion policy.  Brandon 03:58, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Slashdot is sufficiently notable to qualify for an article. Listing the popularity level is a way to illustrate if a website is truly important or well-known enough for an encyclopedia article. tregoweth 06:30, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm not seeing the delineation in the delete policy either.  All that aside, I find it troubling that it's just assumed that this page isn't worthy due to it's at-a-glance 'non-notability.'  The site is a quality one, it's not a spam-center, and has features like the listed 'NerdRank' that are quite unique to the site.  It seems silly to me to delete a wiki entry due to the lack of current membership and then re-add it when that barrier is broken in the near future.  OmniNerd is a solid site with solid growth.  I could understand if it were a personal website or a non-interactive page, or even just another bulletin board using the same code found on every site, but it's not.  OmniNerd is built on 100% original code.  I think it's unfortunate that such a site is getting resistence in a forum like wiki that seems to promote original thought and user interaction. If it is decided that this page must be removed, can we at least have the privledge of knowing some exact criteria for acceptance?  We're not trying to abuse wikipedia, just add to it.  Helpful suggestions, not abrupt deletion, would be much appreciated. MarkMcB 05:02, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
 * It may be the highest-quality web site ever, but quality does not equal notability. Also, as one of the site's founders, you might have a slight bias. It would be best to allow someone else to create the article, to avoid the appearance of a vanity article. tregoweth 06:30, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-notable website. Dcarrano 23:29, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Not good enough. -Haniff July 18
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Lists of people by net worth

By nationality

 * List of Argentines by net worth
 * List of Americans by net worth
 * List of richest Americans in history
 * List of Australians by net worth
 * Financial Review Rich List
 * List of Austrians by net worth
 * List of Belgians by net worth
 * List of Brazilians by net worth
 * List of British billionaires by net worth
 * List of Canadians by net worth
 * List of Chinese by net worth
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 * List of Danes by net worth
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 * List of Egyptian billionaires
 * List of Emiratis by net worth
 * List of Finns by net worth
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 * List of Hong Kong people by net worth
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 * List of Japanese by net worth
 * List of Kazakhs by net worth
 * List of Kenyans by net worth
 * List of Lebanese by net worth
 * List of Malaysians by net worth
 * List of Mexicans by net worth
 * List of Monegasques by net worth
 * List of New Zealanders by net worth
 * List of Nigerian billionaires by net worth
 * List of Norwegians by net worth
 * List of Pakistanis by net worth
 * List of Peruvians by net worth
 * List of Poles by net worth
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 * List of Swiss billionaires by net worth
 * List of Taiwanese people by net worth
 * List of Thais by net worth
 * List of Turkish people by net worth
 * List of Ugandans by net worth
 * List of Ukrainians by net worth
 * List of Venezuelans by net worth

By region

 * List of Africans by net worth
 * List of Arabs by net worth
 * List of Europeans by net worth
 * List of Latin Americans by net worth
 * List of South Asian people by net worth
 * List of Southeast Asian people by net worth

Miscellaneous

 * Black billionaires
 * LGBT billionaires
 * List of countries by number of billionaires
 * List of female billionaires
 * List of royalty by net worth
 * List of wealthiest families
 * List of music artists by net worth

Forbes lists

 * The World's Billionaires
 * Forbes 400
 * Forbes list of the world's highest-paid athletes

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Phillip Goldman
Phillip Goldman is the beneficiary of a multi million dollars settlement in 2021 Richupdate (talk) 07:24, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

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Constrictor (album)

Constrictor is the ninth solo studio album by American rock musician Alice Cooper, released in October 1986 by MCA Records. After a hiatus from the music industry after the release of DaDa (1983), Cooper remained in seclusion for three years. He starred in Monster Dog (1986), a horror film for which he wrote two songs. He also guest starred on the Twisted Sister track "Be Chrool to Your Scuel". Constrictor was Alice Cooper's first studio album to feature Kane Roberts on guitar, Kip Winger, who would later gain fame with his own band, Winger, on bass guitar, and the only one to feature David Rosenberg on drums. Winger has since pointed out that his last name was erroneously spelt in the album credits as Wringer.

The album returned Cooper to the charts at number 59 after his previous two studio albums Zipper Catches Skin (1982) and DaDa (1983) had failed to crack the Top 200.

The horror series Friday the 13th teamed up with Cooper during this time to produce the theme song for its latest film. The song "He's Back (The Man Behind the Mask)" was written for Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives (1986) and went on to become a #1 hit in Sweden. Also featured in the film were Constrictor's "Teenage Frankenstein" and "Hard Rock Summer", the latter of which did not end up on the album.

The track "The Great American Success Story" was apparently intended as the theme song to the Rodney Dangerfield film Back to School (1986), but was not actually used.

The demo of "He's Back (The Man Behind the Mask)" was totally different from the final album version. A reworked version of the "He's Back" demo landed on the album as "Trick Bag" instead. The version of "He's Back" that was featured in Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives was remixed from the album version.

Constrictor also led to one of the most successful tours of the late 1980s, "The Nightmare Returns" tour. Three songs from the album, "Teenage Frankenstein", "Give It Up" and "The World Needs Guts" were regularly performed on this tour. However, as with all Cooper live songs since his third solo studio album Lace and Whiskey (1977), these songs failed to remain in the setlist during subsequent tours. "Teenage Frankenstein" was also played on the tour supporting the follow-up studio album Raise Your Fist and Yell and occasionally during the 2001 "Descent into Dragontown" tour and during the 2019 "Ol' Black Eyes Is Back" tour, whilst "He's Back (The Man Behind the Mask)" was played occasionally in the late 1980s and the early 2000s before becoming a frequent part of the setlist on the "Raise the Dead" tour. The song was resurrected alongside Teenage Frankenstein during the "Ol' Black Eyes Is Back" tour, the song was not played during the American leg and a portion of the European leg.

Personnel
Musicians
 * Alice Cooper – lead vocals
 * Kane Roberts – guitars, bass, keyboards, drums, backing vocals
 * Kip Winger – bass, backing vocals
 * David Rosenberg – drums
 * Donnie Kisselbach – bass
 * Paul Delph – keyboards, backing vocals on "He's Back"
 * Tom Kelly – backing vocals on "He's Back"
 * Beau Hill – backing vocals

Technical
 * Beau Hill – production
 * Michael Wagener – production, mixing
 * Stephen Benben – engineering
 * Ira McLaughlin – assistant engineering
 * Garth Richardson – assistant mixing
 * Mike Reese – mastering
 * Anita Bourne – production coordination

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Molly McGuire

Molly McGuire is a Canadian musician and visual artist based in New Orleans. As a visual artist, she works under the moniker "Magwire" and frequently features at the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival. As a musician, McGuire has performed and recorded with various acts, including Queens of the Stone Age, Mondo Generator, Mark Lanegan, Martina Topley-Bird, Nick Oliveri and Frank Black.

Musical career
Originally from Ontario, Canada, McGuire relocated to New Orleans where she met guitarist Dave Catching. The two played together in the punk band Gnarltones, before McGuire formed her own band, Rhudabega. Following the break-up of Rhudabega, McGuire relocated to Los Angeles in 2001. Together with Catching, drummer Brant Bjork and her brother, Brenndan, McGuire recorded the album Demon Crossing in 2003 as the band Yellow #5. McGuire next formed The Spores, with guitarist Greg Biribauer and drummer Kenny Pierce. The band released the album Imagine the Future and, using McGuire's background as a visual artist, toured with an elaborate stage show. Though they toured as the opening act for the Eagles of Death Metal, the band was dropped from the tour due to infighting. Throughout her musical career, McGuire has performed and recorded with Mark Lanegan, Martina Topley-Bird, Mondo Generator, Nick Oliveri, Queens of the Stone Age, and Frank Black. McGuire stopped touring in 2007.

Visual arts career
In 1990, McGuire enrolled in a two-year sign-painting course at George Brown College. In 2008, she moved back to New Orleans and started working as the manager of the Bywater Art Loft while focusing on her arts career. As a visual artist, McGuire's canvases center around the theme of "Circus Banners of the Mind." In 2014, she pinted the complete line of circus banners for the 20th Century Fox television series American Horror Story: Freak Show. Working under the moniker “Magwire,” McGuire's art is created from re-appropriated canvas drop cloths and custom tinted house paint salvaged from movie sets. The banners tend to reflect contemporary folklore and mythology presented as a carnival advertisement, or circus banner.

McGuire's work has been shown internationally and she is a yearly fixture in the art pavilions of the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival. In 2012 she received a first-place award from the New Orleans Press Club for “Best Editorial Illustration,” which appeared on the cover of Offbeat Magazine's 50th Anniversary of the Preservation Jazz Hall Band.

Selected discography

 * Imagine the Future – The Spores
 * Doom Pop – The Spores
 * What Gives? – The Spores
 * Demon Crossing – Yellow #5
 * Songs for the Deaf – Queens of the Stone Age
 * A Drug Problem That Never Existed – Mondo Generator
 * III The EP – Mondo Generator
 * Dead Planet – Mondo Generator
 * Bubblegum – Mark Lanegan
 * Demolition Day – Nick Oliveri
 * Hello Radio: The Songs of They Might Be Giants – bass/vocals on "Road Movie to Berlin" with Frank Black

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prophecies of Joseph Smith

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The result of the debate was keep. Dmcdevit·t 03:05, July 30, 2005 (UTC)

Prophecies of Joseph Smith
I don't see any way that this article could eventually conform to NPOV. It has about as much potential as a page devoted to examining the Scriptural backgrounds of papal proclamations. Furthermore, by analyzing the claimed prophecies, it would violate the "No original research" policy. Analysis of whether a prophecy is true prophecy or not belongs on sites other than Wikipedia. Kadett 23:36, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete - we know that everyones always going to put NPOV language and of coiurse thier own opinions into this, if we look at the edit history, hence delete. Gabrielsimon 23:40, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment This has already been discussed.  The article has undergone major changes as a result.  I believe the idea right now is to document the prophesies only, and make no attempt to determine truthfullness, which, as you've suggested, would be inappropriate.  I thought this page should go away previously as it could serve only to promote fighting.  See the take page for history and details. Friday 23:54, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable, encyclopedic so long as it is essentially a laundry list of what the prophecies were. -- BD2412 talk 00:10, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep, but only if it fits into the style suggested by BD2412 Youngamerican 01:32, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, but only if it can be brought up to a reasonably comprehensive list of prophecies and placed in something resembling chronological order. --MrWhipple 02:47, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. Up until recently I had serious reservations about this article, but they have since been resolved. In its present form, it's informative, neutral, and does not represent 'original research' in any way. Gregmg 03:59, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete POV fork, agree with Gabrielsimon. JamesBurns 06:40, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep This article is important and can detail a vast amount of research done by various people on this critical topic. Please see the discussion concerning this part of Joseph Smith, Jr. on the Joseph Smith talk page as well as on this page. Jgardner 06:47, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. POV, but we've kept POVer lists of prophecies before.  Almafeta 16:27, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems to be a list of Smith quotations, and Smith's POV is certainly notable. Possible magnet for disputes, I suppose, but no more than any other religious page. Xoloz 16:58, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Provisional Keep, as long as the article explains how believers think the prophecy came true. Otherwise, there is little informative value, as only those who already know about the prophecies can judge whether they came true. --K. 05:29, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Agree strongly with K. This was how the page was originally organized, but this was opposed by several users. I think the page should have prophecy, evidence for, and evidence against -- this make it useful to see how Smith's prophecies have been interpreted by supporters and critics. Perhaps a neutral editor could be brought on board to help sort these issues out.
 * Response: Absolutely. The article certainly needs work, but I think that it can be worthwhile. NPOV doesn't mean no POVs are allowed; it simply means both (or more) POVs should be included. I have never read any of Smith's prophecy's and have no idea how to work out if they came true. This article could help by explaining both how supporters think it came true and why critics say they didn't. Being new to Smith's teachings, I'd be happy to help in adding different interpretations. --K. 00:23, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Provisionial Keep, This article can be informative and a worthwhile article on Wiki. However, it should be limited to a list of prophecies and possibly a very, limited explanation of each prophecy.  Readers are quite capable of determining the value of each prophecy without an interpretation from each side or arguement regarding the validity of Joseph Smith's prophecy. Storm Rider 16:22, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: The article is problematic. Smith was constantly issuing prophecies.  A list of all of his prophecies would be a good part of his writing and speeches, much too long to fit in one article.  Most of the prophecies listed so far are ones which are considered to have come true, gathered from pro-Mormon sites.  Most of the prophecies are as unspecific as Nostradamus's prophecies.  Almost anything could match the prophecy.  Discussing the accuracy of the prophecy is worthwhile.  Where does one go to find out information about Dan Jones?  Prophecies_of_Joseph_Smith is similarly vague, but meaningful to modern Mormons.  How can a casual viewer determine what these mean without further references?  Maybe that is the point of a prophecy, it is general enough that it is probably true. Nereocystis 17:45, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Provisional Delete: The article as it stands at this time has no substantive content.  There is no discussion of which of the prophecies have been fulfilled, or partially fulfilled, or failed.  If the article previously had such content, then its deletion while a VfD was in process is a serious breach of Wikiquette, resembling, but not exactly, vandalism. Robert McClenon 22:14, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete. This article is too POV. Gateman1997 01:14, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: I find a few of the above comments disconcerting. Wikipedia is not a soapbox and it's not a battleground. A religious war has no place in an encyclopedia. Please see WP:NOT and Deletion_policy. Gregmg 04:12, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Which comments? I can't see any that could be construed as soapboxing. --K. 05:13, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * My concerns aren't with inappropriate comments on this page, but instead with the desire of some to add POV to the referenced article. Gregmg 14:08, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Some people consider analyzing the prophecies to be POV. Others consider not analyzing the prophecies to be point of view.  It would be helpful to specify what type of comments you don't like.  Otherwise, it difficult to discuss objectionable comments. Nereocystis 18:42, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * The difficulty of analyzing prophecies is first identifying the meaning. As you review the current article's history, the two sides are miles apart on what Joseph Smith meant in a prophecy.  I do find it interesting that those outside of the LDS church seem so stridently confident that their interpretation is the only legitimate prism through which to review Smith's prophecy.  Conversely, those who are followers of Smith believe there is only one prism; the one that makes a prophecy true.  I still remain unmoved that readers are not capable of reading individual prophecies and making their own interpretation of what it is meant.  An introduction to the prophecy is adequate, but an analysis will only result in constant revert wars as is so evident in this article. Storm Rider 22:29, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Interpreting the Independence temple prophecy in D&C 84 depends on what Joseph Smith meant by "generation." Critics believe he meant within his lifetime. Believers believe generation is synonymous with dispensation. Some context here is necessary to understand the possible interpretations. I say give both and let the reader decide which is correct (or if they want a third alternative). --MrWhipple 23:13, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * An analysis shouldn't be original research or opinion; it should simply state what different groups believe as to how the prophecy came true. That isn't POV, it's presenting facts about what people believe. How will there be edit wars about that? Does anyone disagree on what the LDS think about his prophecies? --K. 04:01, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Many of the prophecies do not have official LDS interpretations. This is especially true of prophecies which may not have come true. There definitely is not a monolithic non-LDS viewpoint.  However, this should be attempted.  Let's try it with one or two prophecies, perhaps in the talk section, and see what it looks like. Nereocystis 13:21, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * That sounds good. As long as we stick to "this group believes this, while this other group believes this" then we don't get into POV issues of "this didn't come true/this did come true". --K. 13:40, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Weak keep. But only if an analysis of the prophecies is included. Nereocystis 21:52, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
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