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Wikipedia:Peer review/Spyware/archive1

Spyware
This has been a relatively popular article (#9 hit on Google for "spyware") and has been cited in mainstream media. User:LGagnon and I have been getting it in shape in the hopes that it can soon become a featured article. It has been broadly stable and uncontroversial, although there was recently a minor issue with link spamming.

In seeking peer review, I'm primarily looking for anything that is noticeably missing from the article. The subject is one about which a lot of people have strong subjective views, but I'd like to know what objective, research-based information people know about that should be added. We already have a lot of references, but any additional ones which are solid research would be most welcome. --FOo 20:54, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

 * A few things I recommend doing:
 * Expand the History & development section.
 * expand and rename the Categories section (maybe "What constitutes spyware"); an in-depth comparison to viruses and worms (and malware in general) may help.
 * The Typical examples section seems a bit small. a few more examples (I recommend using very well known spyware) could make it look a bit meatier.
 * The User consent and legality section has 2 government links. I highly recommend citing these as done with other references. Similarly, other links without mention in the References section should be formatted for that section (many still remain).
 * The Anti-spyware programs section might improve if we mention prevention methods implemented by Javacool Software's SpywareBlaster and SpywareGuard. Both are quite unique amongst anti-spyware programs.
 * There's a lot of text with a lot of facts in it; more cited references always helps. What adds more credibility to your article only makes it stronger. :) -- LGagnon 02:39, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

Certainly a listing of databases for anti-spyware research ought to be included. There are many noteable entries missing that pertain to various sections like the O16s, O2s, O3s, O4s, O23s, et al. There are also other noteable spyware/adware database links missing.--Paul Laudanski 05:15, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Let's try to only add notable and/or the most useful links. We've got a huge External links section already, and we shouldn't let it detract from the encyclopediac purpose of the article. After all, Wikipedia is not a link farm. -- LGagnon 21:50, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

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Abit

Abit may refer to:

 * Abit, Burma, village in Burma
 * Abit (Armenian Bitumen), an asphalt production company in Surenavan, Armenia
 * Ajay Binay Institute of Technology
 * Saint-Abit, commune in France
 * Universal Abit, defunct Taiwanese computer brand

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Talk:Bloop

Gawr Gura's sidekick
The addition to the popular culture section about VTuber Gawr Gura's sidekick was removed as vandalism, but I do not see how it is such. Her sidekick Bloop is clearly named after the subject matter of this article. This becomes evident when she lists option C when she quizzes her friends on him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkbXdXbs8vk&t=2383 The correct answer may have been 'B' ("emergency ration"), but it shows that there is a relevant connection. Kapten Nordstroem (talk) 13:58, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I did not say it was vandalism. I said it was "non notable". ApLundell (talk) 14:35, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I misread the page history. It was the person who added the pop-culture reference that removed vandalism. Kapten Nordstroem (talk) 22:33, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

I need the bloop sound 2601:803:482:C310:69E3:251E:8FF:BF02 (talk) 22:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Should there be a more extensive section on cultural relevance?
Due to how extremely common "The Bloop" has become as a creature in "internet culture", I feel a larger section on it's usage and the popular depictions of it as a fish with a large mouth is warranted. 79.167.144.73 (talk) 00:59, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Is the bloop real? 2A01:799:7D3:E000:6D19:114E:932E:3457 (talk) 19:17, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * If there is a secondary source that talks about use in games, films etc, then we can expand on it here. But it is not appropriate to include things that use the bloop if no one else noticed that thing and wrote about it. (secondary source rather than primary use). Read our article to see if it is real, it is a real sound. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

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Summary
In-progress drawing of Pikachu in a Mario Artist program.

Fair use rationale for Mario Artist
The use of this image in the above-mentioned article qualifies as fair use because:
 * 1) It is low resolution.
 * 2) It does not limit the copyright holder's ability to market the product.
 * 3) It depicts the subject discussed in the article.
 * 4) It is only being used for informational purposes.

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User:JeffS~enwiki

Jeff Shrader
Born June 19, 1985 in Amarillo, TX Jeff Shrader is the youngest child of Jeff and Marsha Shrader. Jeff has two sisters, Katherine and Elizabeth, 2 and 7 years older, respectively. Jeff spent his entre childhood and adolesence in Amarillo, TX but has recently moved to New York City to attend Columbia University. Jeff will be a second-year student at Columbia this year.

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Local

Local may refer to:

Geography and transportation

 * Local (train), a train serving local traffic demand
 * Local, Missouri, a community in the United States
 * Local government, a form of public administration, usually the lowest tier of administration
 * Local news, coverage of events in a local context which would not normally be of interest to those of other localities
 * Local union, a locally based trade union organization which forms part of a larger union

Arts, entertainment, and media

 * Local (comics), a limited series comic book by Brian Wood and Ryan Kelly
 * Local (novel), a 2001 novel by Jaideep Varma
 * Local TV LLC, an American television broadcasting company
 * The Local (film), a 2008 action-drama film
 * The Local, English-language news websites in several European countries

Computing

 * .local, a network address component
 * Local variable, a variable that is given local scope

Life sciences and health care

 * Local anesthesia, any technique to induce the absence of sensation in part of the body
 * Local disease (localized disease), disease confined to an area of the body

Mathematics

 * Local class field theory, the study of abelian extensions of local fields
 * Local field, a special type of field that is a locally compact topological field with respect to a non-discrete topology
 * Local Fields (book), an algebraic number theory textbook by Jean-Pierre Serre
 * Local martingale, a type of stochastic process, satisfying the localized version of the martingale property
 * Local property, a property which occurs on sufficiently small or arbitrarily small neighborhoods of points
 * Local ring, the branch of commutative algebra that studies local rings and their modules
 * Local symbol (disambiguation), uses in various subfields of mathematics
 * Local zeta-function, a function whose logarithmic derivative is a generating function for the number of solutions of a set of equations defined over a finite field
 * Local-global principle, the idea that one can find an integer solution to an equation using the Chinese remainder theorem

Other uses

 * Local theory, a physical theory that obeys the principle of locality
 * Pub, a drinking establishment, known as a "local" to its regulars
 * Local language

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User talk:67.83.120.150

Hi, you've added lots of material re Aishwarya Rai, some of which may be worth including in the article, some of which maybe isn't. Please don't be upset if some of the material disappears, as non-encyclopedic, and the rest is rewritten. Zora 20:57, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi, you just added a lot of text copied from United Nations website. Unless you can provide appropriate proof of permission granted by the website or the copyright holder, this counts as a copyright violation against wikipedia's policy. Please do not add copyrighted material. Thanks. --Ragib 22:26, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Please stop adding copyrighted text. --Ragib 16:08, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:University of Southern Maine

Removal of alumni
Why have you removed Spencer Albee and Simon M. Hamlin from this article's list of notable alumni? ElKevbo (talk) 03:52, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

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User talk:Jaded Thea

Welcome!
Welcome!

Copyright on UN images
Hello, you uploaded Image:EthiopiaRegions.gif with the tag. However, the UN does place a copyright on its material, although the notice is not posted at the same website where you found this image. I'm not sure that UN images (or text) are public domain, and I can't find a previous discussion on Wikipedia that would set a precedent one way or the other. I'd been wondering about this because there are more maps where that came from, and it would be nice to use them here. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 9 July 2005 18:28 (UTC)

 * Have moved all further discussion of this issue to Copyright problems. -- Jaded Thea (talk) 11:32, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

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Live at the Fillmore – February 1969

Live at the Fillmore — February 1969 is a live album released by the American rock band the Byrds in 2000 on Columbia/Legacy. Compiled from two performances at the Fillmore West on February 7 and 8, 1969, the album includes several songs that are not found on any of the group's studio albums.

Recorded less than a week after the release of the Byrds' album, Dr. Byrds & Mr. Hyde, the band line-up on these recordings includes lead singer and guitarist Roger McGuinn, lead guitarist Clarence White, bassist John York, and drummer Gene Parsons. The album features White using the Stringbender device on his guitar, which he co-invented with drummer (and banjo player) Gene Parsons. The Stringbender allowed White to emulate the sound of a pedal steel guitar on his Fender Telecaster guitar.

Live At The Fillmore — February 1969 did not chart in either the U.S. or the UK.

Track listing

 * 1) "Nashville West" (Gene Parsons, Clarence White) – 1:57
 * 2) "You're Still on My Mind" (Luke McDaniel) – 1:57
 * 3) "Pretty Boy Floyd" (Woody Guthrie) – 3:13
 * 4) "Drug Store Truck Drivin' Man" (Roger McGuinn, Gram Parsons) – 2:28
 * 5) "Medley: Turn! Turn! Turn! (To Everything There Is a Season)/Mr. Tambourine Man/Eight Miles High" (Book of Ecclesiastes/Pete Seeger, Bob Dylan, Gene Clark, Roger McGuinn, David Crosby) – 9:47
 * 6) "Close up The Honky Tonks" (Red Simpson) – 2:59
 * 7) "Buckaroo" (Bob Morris) – 2:02
 * 8) "The Christian Life" (Ira Louvin, Charlie Louvin) – 2:10
 * 9) "Time Between" (Chris Hillman) – 2:09
 * 10) "King Apathy III" (Roger McGuinn) – 3:14
 * 11) "Bad Night at the Whiskey" (Roger McGuinn, Joseph Richards) – 3:50
 * 12) "This Wheel's on Fire" (Bob Dylan, Rick Danko) – 4:17
 * 13) "Sing Me Back Home" (Merle Haggard) – 3:08
 * 14) "So You Want to Be a Rock 'n' Roll Star" (Roger McGuinn, Chris Hillman) – 2:36
 * 15) "He Was a Friend of Mine" (traditional, new words and arrangement Roger McGuinn) – 2:32
 * 16) "Chimes of Freedom" (Bob Dylan) – 3:23

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Talk:Kosher tax conspiracy theory

RfC: Does the title, hatnote, and lead of this article adhere to the neutral point of view policy?
Does this article comply with the neutral point of view policy? (permalink to the version of this article at the start of this RfC) 05:43, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been listed at the neutral point of view noticeboard. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 22:42, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Does this article title (i.e. "Kosher tax (antisemitic canard)") comply with the article title and neutral point of view policies? (yes/no)

 * No, the article title fails WP:NPOVTITLE and WP:COMMONNAME. Disambiguation with antisemitic canard (i.e. "anti-Jewish hoax") is clearly bias and in violation of the aforementioned policy sections and the NPOV policy in general. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 05:44, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. Perfectly encyclopedic.--Galassi (talk) 11:13, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe. How about "urban legend"? That would be neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nagle (talk • contribs) 20:27, May 3, 2016 UTC
 * Maybe, but the problem isn't POV -- it is a canard, encyclopedically so. The problem is that the COMMONNAME title would be Kosher tax -- but this article isn't about the very rare thing that actually is a Kosher tax; rather, it is about the antisemitic meme/trope/myth/hoax/whatever which this article describes. I suppose we could instead have just one article including taxes on kashruth, and then describing the nonsense. --jpgordon:==( o ) 00:56, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No, this title expresses an opinion about the topic of the article and is therefore an obvious neutrality violation. It doesn't make any difference whether the opinion is widely held or not.  A much better title would be "Kosher tax conspiracy theory". Zerotalk 23:59, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * That's a good compromise. John Nagle (talk) 00:26, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I concur that "Kosher tax conspiracy theory" would be "a much better title". — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 01:05, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

 * Yes. The flat earth is not an opinion either.--Lute88 (talk) 14:57, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No, the article title fails WP:NPOVTITLE and WP:COMMONNAME. "Kosher tax conspiracy theory" is acceptable, however a more radical solution would be to move Kosher tax to Kosher meat tax (since the tax in question was solely on animal slaughter and sale of meat and this is a relatively marginal subject). Such a move would leave the 'natural' title open for this page.Pincrete (talk) 19:57, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. Just as we have many articles with "conspiracy theory" in the title. I suppose Pincrete's idea of also describing this as a conspiracy theory would bring it into line with those articles, but is it really a conspiracy theory? I'm not sure, but might be persuaded. Jayjg (talk) 23:23, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * ADL calls it that: . And really, the "canard" thing is a pretty awkward construction. --jpgordon:==( o ) 06:02, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes - the term seems commonname, the parenthesis disambig 'canard' looks odd but that's what the list is named. Markbassett (talk) 00:39, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe acceptable, but not optimal. I tend to favor the option by Pincrete above myself. We do have a precedent in some cases, like saints, where the most common dsignation ("Saint Augustine") is not used as a title, but a more neutral version ("Augustine of Hippo") is, and Pincrete's proposal seems to me to be slightly prefereable to "kosher tax conspiracy theory" because it is more specific and, maybe, unfortunately, maybe not the only possible kosher tax conspiracy theory out there, although I admit to not knowing much about this at all. John Carter (talk) 16:50, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Technically Yes, But.... the title seems unwieldy and not the most common thing a user would type in. I agree with the users above that "Kosher tax conspiracy theory" is simply a better title.  We can leave this page as a redirect.  There's nothing NPOV about it, it's just not the best title it could be, in my opinion. Fieari (talk) 05:46, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. "Kosher Tax'' is also used by Jews, to refer to something somewhat different -- the higher cost of Kosher meat, artificially maintained at a higher rate by the traditional ghetto or village community for the purpose of supporting community institutions. The rationale was that it was a suitably progressive  tax on luxuries, for only the richer Jews could afford to eat much meat in any case. That would need a separate article.  DGG ( talk ) 04:30, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes it's a fair description of what is going on. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 15:49, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No Some people take issue that a product they are buying funds Jewish Orthodox/Muslims organizations who give the certifications and criticize that. The article already covers the Louise Mailloux case from this angle. But, because neo-Nazis also naturally wouldn't buy Orthodox Union labelled products and even claim the food companies are forced to do so (frankly I don't even see this claim in majority of the sources, most are just about disliking the kosher tag/boycotting them) so the article goes on the call it an "antisemitic canard". --Pudeo' 15:45, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I think user:Pudeo you're addressing another matter altogether. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 16:33, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I found Pudeo's comment to be on topic, and thought they made a good point. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 05:31, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Well if people don't want to by foods that are certified by certain certifying organisations they just shouldn't buy them. The point is that this narrative isn't about that. It's about how money is supposedly collected through this process, for some other (possibly nefarious) goals. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 14:51, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Does the hatnote of this article comply with the hatnote guideline and the neutral point of view policy? (yes/no)

 * No, the hatnote of the article falls under the examples of improper use section of the hatnote guideline, "hatnotes are meant to reduce confusion and direct readers to another article they might have been looking for, not for information about the subject of the article itself" or "tendentious material". — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 05:44, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. Perfectly encyclopedic.--Galassi (talk) 11:13, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, precisely so. --jpgordon:==( o ) 00:57, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. I see no reason to weasel this to smithereens.--Lute88 (talk) 15:00, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No. But changing the title implicitly remedies that. Pincrete (talk) 19:59, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does exactly what a hatnote is supposed to do. Jayjg (talk) 23:23, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes looks like it to me Markbassett (talk) 00:45, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes The hatnote is a hatnote. If you were trying to find information on actual kosher certification fees, but were redirected here, you'd want to know the correct article. There's no POV being pushed. All perfectly encyclopedic. Fieari (talk) 05:53, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes - clear and accurate, encyclopedic and useful. -- Orange Mike |  Talk  14:18, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Does the lead of this article comply with the lead subpage of the manual of style and the neutral point of view policy? (yes/no)

 * No, per MOS:BEGIN, "the first paragraph should define or identify the topic with a neutral point of view, but without being too specific." Stating the topic is "a canard or urban legend spread by [antisemites]" in the first sentence is not neutral. However, stating "it is widely considered an antisemitic canard by mainstream sources" or something along those lines after describing the concept neutrally would be appropriate, though not in the first sentence. (WP:YESPOV) — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 05:44, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. Perfectly encyclopedic.--Galassi (talk) 11:14, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is precisely correct and neutral; the topic of this article is the antisemitic canard. --jpgordon:==( o ) 00:58, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. Succinct and factual.--Lute88 (talk) 21:34, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes - This part at least is supported well enough by the sources used in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Homemade Pencils (talk • contribs) 23:31, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No per reasons by Godsy above. Opening sentence should be completely neutral with 'it is widely considered an antisemitic canard' and all the stuff about 'antisemitic, white supremacist and other extremist organizations', similarly moved so that it follows the neutral opening. I've just seen above The "Kosher tax" (or "Jewish tax") is a claim that consumers are unwittingly supporting the Jewish religion or Zionist causes and Israel through kosher certification which raises the price of products. The claim is spread mainly by white supremacist organizations, and is widely considered an antisemitic canard by mainstream sources. I have amended the original slightly as an alternative suggestion.Pincrete (talk) 20:51, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Legitimate kosher taxes have their own article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_tax.--Lute88 (talk) 20:29, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I know, I have suggested renaming that article as the tax only covers sale of meat, or amending this title to 'Consp. theory'. Pincrete (talk) 20:51, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I find anything but canard to be too weasely.--Lute88 (talk) 21:22, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

 * Yes, the lede is perfectly accurate and neutral, and in accord with all reliable sources on the topic. Jayjg (talk) 23:23, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak yes - I'd say OK on NPOV, but the second para is a bit too long for the lede. Not the only article I've seen that nor the worst case, call it a writing tweak.  Markbassett (talk) 00:49, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. There might be arguments that the lead could be better written, have better prose, etc.  I certainly wouldn't pass it if it were a Featured Article Candidate, for instance, but nothing in it seems POV.  It simply names things as they are.  We don't pander to minority views, but follow the common consensus. The lead says things as they are understood. Fieari (talk) 05:53, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes it's a fair description of what is going on. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 15:49, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Discussion

 * The topic of this article is the claim that "unwilling food companies and unwitting consumers are forced to pay money to Jewish organizations to support [Judaism,] Zionist causes[, or] Israel". That claim is then characterized as an antisemitic canard by the mainstream majority viewpoint. That needs to be made clear, but a viewpoint cannot be stated as a fact and be considered neutral, see WP:YESPOV. The proponents of the claim wouldn't call it or necessarily consider it an antisemitic canard. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 02:06, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The issue is whether labeling this an anti-Semitic canard violates NPOV. If the consensus is that it does NOT violate NPOV, then the hatnote, title and lead are all appropriate. While the sources do unequivocally describe it as an ASC, some also describe it as an urban legend, and of course many of these are organizations whose purpose is identifying and documenting things like this as anti-semitic canards. The problem with calling it an urban legend or hoax is that sources make it clear that this is a deliberately misleading story (canard), which it is, and anti-semitic, which it also clearly is according to every WP:RS. What suggestion do you have to replace "anti-semitic canard," in order to differentiate this article from Kosher Tax? I'm inclined to defer to the the way the article is now unless we can figure out something better... which seems unlikely. <> Alt lys er svunnet hen (talk) 03:54, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I made some suggestions in Talk:Kosher tax (antisemitic canard). Basically the suggestions boil down to moving this content to "Kosher tax claim" or "Kosher tax theory" (or something along those lines), simply describing the claim itself the hatnote, and shifting "a canard or urban legend spread by [antisemites]" to the second sentence and attributing it to the mainstream majority viewpoint. Other page title solutions: Kosher tax could be moved to European Kosher tax (or something else), then the content of this article moved to Kosher tax. Or a merge of Kosher tax and Kosher tax (antisemitic canard) could be proposed. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 04:38, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not averse to what you've written about the NPOV issues, and I like that your rewrite of the 1st sentence describes the concept rather than defining it through guilt-by-association, then describing it in the 2nd sentence as it is now. That said, in order to take out the canard stuff (which at least carries the sound of a judgment call, if nothing else) we'd likely have to do yet another move request, and it would likely fail as the others have for two very good reasons: 1. We have a variety of reliable sources describing it as an anti-semitic canard, in those words, & 2. Consensus has established several times over that this is the best way to distinguish this from the other Kosher Tax. I don't necessarily think a merge of these two articles is appropriate: it is clearly important to distinguish between a tax on jews, and a tax imposed by jews (I suspect the concepts were split to avoid the confusion that has arisen by people conflating the two). I'm just not convinced that any combination of moving, renaming or merging these articles is going to improve anything at the moment, but that lead does need rephrasing. <> Alt lys er svunnet hen (talk) 06:23, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The problem is that it is not really a claim, but a rather standard _belief_ in the antisemitic circles.--Lute88 (talk) 21:25, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

 * Request. Given all the renaming and rerenaming going on, I can't tell which title is meant by "this article title".  Can someone who knows what the question is please edit it to make that clear?  Similarly for the questions below. Thanks. Zerotalk 13:54, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I clarified the article title in the question. The rest can be seen in this unchanging permalink, which is provided above as well. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 21:34, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

The only time I've personally met claims like this was in Israel, from secular Jews. Maybe that's because I don't live in the USA? For sure antisemitic organizations are going to like such myths, but calling them antisemitic right in the title really is a blatant policy violation. We don't have an article called Moon landing conspiracy theories (anti-American canard) — such a title wouldn't last five minutes. The article itself is very poor, too. It gives the impression of being written for the purpose of exposing the myth, but that is not a legitimate use of Wikipedia. We should be told exactly what the claims are, sourced to someone who makes them rather than just summaries of unknown precision from interested parties seeking to refute them, then we should be told what contrary opinions there are. The main focus, however, should be on what third-party sources say about it, but the article contains almost none of those (and if there aren't such sources the article should be deleted). That's what policy demands of us. Zerotalk 22:44, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Part of the problem with the sources is that the only reliable sources that really discuss this do so for the purpose of refuting it, so the article tends to reflect that. The claims themselves regarding this "kosher tax" are so obviously nonsensical that very few reliable sources pay it any attention at all. Jayjg (talk) 23:23, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

If groups were to start claiming that |"USDA Organic certification", |"Marine Stewardship council certification", |"Fair Trade certification", |"Non-GMO certification",or any one of a dozen other food certifications were actually "taxes", these claims would be labeled for exactly what they are. But when it's the claim that kosher certification is a "tax", suddenly it's just a "theory", although perhaps one that is not "mainstream". Jayjg (talk) 23:23, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * A conspiracy theory is not just a theory. Also, if "very few reliable sources pay it any attention at all" then the topic fails WP:NOTABILITY and should be deleted. After reading this article several times as well as most of the sources, I still don't know exactly what is being alleged and refuted. If it is just the cost of a kashrut certificate for a kosher product, that is extremely negligible and people claiming otherwise are ignorant or liars. But is that all the claim is about?  The certificate? Zerotalk 00:01, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

 * The myth has a few parts.
 * 1: People don’t understand what the kosher markings on food packages mean.
 * 2: Anti-Semites tell them that the markings are inspection or tax marks that food manufacturers have to payed to the elders of Zion or the new world order etc…
 * 3: Some argue that it has nothing to do with being kosher because the marks appear on nonfood items like soap.
 * 4: I have never heard it having anything to do with Israel.Jonney2000 (talk) 04:22, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

 * Godsy - I think the article is biased, perhaps irretrievably so, and may be bad at just follow the cites or even be reporting on an urban mythos about the urban myth ... but I don't feel the title is too far out there.  I'd like to see actual content supporting the claims here a bit better, some actual POV evidence of the canard and extent of it, but the title, meh.  Markbassett (talk) 00:57, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

 * The article is advocacy. There is too much emphasis placed on how it saves on costs, because people buy more product--I would think that an economically very dubious argument. the argument that the cost is very small is a more rational repsonse. Even for antisemeitc canrds, we need to present them with a NPOV. Trying to hard to show it's wrong tends to give the opposite impression of defensiveness.  DGG ( talk ) 04:32, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

@Zero0000, @Godsy, @DGG, the article follows the sources; if you have other reliable sources that discuss this canard, or think the existing sources aren't presented properly, or if in general you think the existing material could be more clearly presented, then have at it. Jayjg (talk) 22:01, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 16 June 2016
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 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved. The consensus is to move the article as proposed. There were five opposers, one of whom suggested a move to "Kosher tax", eight supporters with half of those also suggesting "Kosher tax" as the title, and one more who specifically suggested the bare title. There was also a suggestion for a disambiguation page. Since no mention was made on the talk page of Kosher tax that it was involved in this discussion, then the two suggestions to rename it to "Kosher meat tax" in order to free "Kosher tax" for this article may require its own move request. (non-admin closure) Wikipedian Sign Language  Paine   16:22, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Kosher tax (antisemitic canard) → Kosher tax conspiracy theory – This is a procedural nomination arising from the closure of the WP:RfC on the WP:NPOV of this article above. There was a mandate to find the best title, so this is a move request to invite opinions on which title is the best.

Note to closer: Given the discussion that led to this requested move, I suggest that this RM be judged without bias towards status quo ante. Should there be a lack of apparent consensus, the title with the strongest support should be adopted. Deryck C. 10:52, 16 June 2016 (UTC) --Relisting.  Anarchyte  ( work  |  talk )   11:03, 24 June 2016 (UTC)  --'Relisting (2nd). See comment below. <font face="Papyrus"> Anarchyte <font color="#000"> ( work  |  talk )   07:47, 4 July 2016 (UTC)  --This is the (3rd) relisting, which is usually not done; however, this was sought by an editor who asked for one more week to try and garner consensus for or against this page move – so granted.  Wikipedian Sign Language  Paine '  17:29, 13 July 2016 (UTC) ,

 * Support per WP:NPOVTITLE. "Kosher tax (antisemitic canard)" expresses an opinion about the topic of the article and is therefore an obvious neutrality violation. "a false story inciting antisemitism" (antisemitic canard) is much less neutral than "a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event" (conspiracy theory), though the latter has derogatory connotations, it isn't in itself lacking neutrality as is the former. For example: Modern flat Earth societies and Heliocentrism neutrally describe those beliefs, however fallacious they may be, hence there is no reason this one shouldn't as well. The fact that the belief is controversial and widely disputed is more of a reason, not less, to be neutral in describing it. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 03:37, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

 * No support. The item is a malicious calumny, not a mere conspiracy theory. Keep current title.--Galassi (talk) 13:39, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * No support. The proposed title also expresses an opinion about the topic of the article: that it is a conspiracy theory. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 14:21, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * (Clearking admin note) Please express your "no support" in terms of a preferred title - would you prefer the current title, or would you rather have neither and propose a new title not mentioned so far? Deryck C. 22:43, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * This isn't a vote. I disagree with the reasoning cited behind changing the name, but the name probably should be changed simply because the current one is awkward, and there is a sufficiently sourced alternative. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 14:13, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * So your "no support" should be interpreted as a neutral then, as you're not opposing? — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 15:15, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm opposing, if you insist on interpreting my words, because the argument is invalid. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 15:33, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * "No support" is an obscure way to !vote. I was simply seeking clarification to aid whomever closes this in their determination of consensus. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 16:16, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest pinging or leaving notifications on the talk pages of those who participated in the related rfc to inform them about this discussion. That will hopefully improve the quality of this requested move by broadening participation to more fully achieve consensus. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 03:47, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Middling FWIW, I think a disambiguation page on Kosher Tax, with either "conspiracy theory" or "antisemitic canard" as a corresponding affix would be appropriate. I don't know if calling it a conspiracy theory is linguistically accurate, because "conspiracy" here suggests there is some small cabal of Jews trying to collect money on kosher goods, while "canard" provides in the reader's mind an illustration of ducks or boats, with the "hoax" aspect being secondary. I don't know why the term "canard" is being pushed here other than the fact that the KT is an intentionally misleading idea being pushed on people - or as most people simply call it nowadays, a hoax. It is not a very well-known or well-publicized hoax, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be well-described here. Canard may very well be the best word that comes to mind, because (afaik) there is not a more accurate or encyclopedic synonym for what we're describing here. Conspiracy theory might be more in line with similar articles on WP. But I'll reaffirm that I think a disambiguation page might be the best option here. <> Alt lys er svunnet hen (talk) 09:27, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Support Any title that states an opinion like "antisemitic" violates NPOV a fortiori. It is not our business to decide on the motives of people who make particular claims. Zerotalk 23:14, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Nonsense. The word "anti-semitic" relates to the content, not the intent. If reliable sources call it anti-semitic, then that is what it is, regardless of the intentions of whoever came up with it. Debresser (talk) 08:23, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Nonsense yourself. It is obviously a judgement made in Wikipedia's voice. The fact that it cites only sources that you would expect to call it antisemitic, and not a single other opinion, does not suddenly make it balanced. I'm also disturbed by how the article, and some of the sources, confound two different things: the cost of kashrut compliance (anything from zero to very high, depending on the product) and the cost of a kosher certificate (trivial once the product is kosher). I think this confusion is deliberate in the case of some of the sources, and this article does nothing to clarify the matter, nor does it bring us the actual words of anyone who supposedly spreads this "canard". Zerotalk 01:07, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * More nonsense. Now you talk about balance of sources. Sources which might not even exist. You have made up a nonsense claim, that the word "anti-semitic" is POV, and now you try to "prove" it by making more incorrect assertions. Debresser (talk) 08:05, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

 * Relisting comment: I have relisted this discussion due to lack of proper consensus. There is also a conversation between and  still going on. If another 7 days go past and there is still a lack of any consensus, it'd probably be safe to be closed by an uninvolved editor. <font face="Papyrus"> Anarchyte  <font color="#000"> ( work  |  talk )   07:47, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Since the word "canard" already is almost equivalent to "conspiracy theory". I would support a rename to simply "kosher tax". Debresser (talk) 08:09, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I would also support "Kosher tax" as a title. Zerotalk 12:40, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

 * Support move and stepping down as clerking admin . I think "antisemitic canard" is too obscure a phrase to be used as a disambiguator. "Conspiracy theory" is much easier to understand and is equally unambiguous. Deryck C. 10:06, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Canard is a standard term for a malicious hoax, and not only in English and French. It is called Утка in Russian.--Galassi (talk) 18:11, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

 * Support, and have supported some sort of move in the past. Honestly, I would also support a rename to plain "Kosher tax" per others as well, but if people truly feel that the title itself needs to refute this - note that we do not have Flat Earth (discredited model), just Flat Earth - then "conspiracy theory" is clearer and more direct.  SnowFire (talk) 05:00, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Support, per WP:RECOGNIZABLE; the fact that canard has a definition is irrelevant; it's unfamiliar to most readers, so it will not help as a disambiguator.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  20:11, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Closer's comment. I was asked to reopen this RM because an editor had taken the time and trouble to invite others to this debate. I feel this is acceptable, because I had closed it "No consensus".  Hopefully, others will come and help to provide a consensus one way or the other.  Cheers!  Wikipedian Sign Language  Paine   17:17, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Blanket pinging the participants of Talk:Kosher tax (antisemitic canard) as this requested move was a direct result of it (regardless of whether or not they've already participated in this requested move): Galassi, Nagle, Jpgordon, Lute88, Pincrete, Jayjg, Markbassett, John Carter, Fieari, DGG, Hebel, Pudeo, Orangemike, Homemade Pencils, Zero0000, and Jonney2000. Also posting a notice on the neutral point of view noticeboard as was done for the RfC. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 18:14, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it does not, but neither does the proposed replacement; deeming something a "conspiracy theory" also skirts on the edge of non-NPOV. Even if we do have a consensus that the page needs to be moved, we simply don't have a consensus on a new title, so closing the RM was appropriate. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 18:37, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

 * Meh - as I said in earlier RFC, either seems OK enough or about equally poor. As would be the tag 'urban myth', no tag at all, or even different start to title 'Jewish Tax'.  Markbassett (talk) 18:56, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

 * Broadly support Responding to ping I repeat my earlier comment "Kosher tax conspiracy theory" is acceptable, however a more radical solution would be to move Kosher tax to Kosher meat tax or similar (the tax in question was solely on animal slaughter and sale of meat and is a relatively marginal subject) . Such a move would leave the 'natural' title open for this page. My objection to 'canard' is not mainly NPoV, rather like SMcCandlish, I don't think the term is generally used or understood I think of ducks . The only uses of 'canard' on WP that I can find are as part of the term 'antisemetic canard' and those uses are thin. 'Urban myth' is probably too weak, 'Jewish Tax' too vague. Pincrete (talk) 19:19, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * @Pincrete Instead of this staying a no consensus, I am trying to see if we have enough people who would agree with simply "Kosher tax". What do you say/? Debresser (talk) 19:42, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I would support "Kosher tax" as a title and so support reopening (or starting a new RfC) with that target. Zerotalk 23:26, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes wholeheartedly support 'Kosher tax' for this article but remind of the need to rename existing Kosher tax. … … speaking of Kosher tax … … …Pincrete (talk) 00:28, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * That would be better than using the disambiguator of antisemitic canard, if an alternate reasonable title could be found for what currently resides at Kosher Tax (unless a merge is being suggested). — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 15:22, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * NOT merge with this article. The tax presently at Kosher tax applies to the historical taxing of meat and slaughter, chiefly in central/east Europe and is a pretty thin article. Whether it could be merged with something else I have no idea.Pincrete (talk) 12:49, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

 * Kosher tax – The simpler the better. The "antisemitic canard" or "conspiracy theory" qualifiers would only be useful if there was indeed a real kosher tax to distinguish from. As such a tax is entirely fictional, the shorter title is appropriate, sufficient and neutral. Similar case to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion: title doesn't say it's a hoax; that's the first thing you read in the lead. — JFG talk 23:55, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * the term is widely used in Jewish sources, as I mentioned above, though in a slightly different context. Best thing for the moment is to keep the title simple. I may expand the article later.  DGG ( talk ) 01:33, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Problem is, there is a real Kosher tax, though when people look up Kosher tax, this article is what they are interested in, not the occasional special taxes on actual Jewish practices. Maybe the existing Kosher tax should be moved to something like Kosher taxation. One of the reasons for several of us being resistant here is the history of a few people wanting to fill up this article with discussions that have no bearing on the canard and instead deal with the basic costs of Kashruth. So we've tried to keep the costs of Kashruth in its article, the occasional taxation upon the practice in the "tax" article (though in truth, that could just be a few paragraphs in Kashruth), and restrict this article to the canard. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 15:30, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the additional perspective. In that case I would advocate using Kosher meat tax for the historical tax and Kosher tax for the mythical one. Add mutual hatnotes of the distinguish variety, which display "Not to be confused with Kosher meat tax". Meat ≠ Myth — JFG talk 15:09, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You write "As such a tax is entirely fictional, the shorter title is appropriate, sufficient and neutral. Similar case to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion: title doesn't say it's a hoax; that's the first thing you read in the lead." It is not neutral. Figuratively, the cost of kosher certification is a tax. I think that we are concerned with the appearance of a title tending to perpetuate the very implication which this article documents. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a specific document with a title. By contrast there is no title for the antisemitic practice of claiming that Jews sucker non-Jews into supporting "Jewish causes" such as supporting the State of Israel through the added cost of kosher certification. This article documents a practice that has no formal name. In this respect it is unlike the article The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Bus stop (talk) 17:43, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

 * Support - Canard is an unfamiliar term, even if technically accurate. It will not be the term used by most people trying to find it.  Conspiracy theory is a much more common term, and is more likely to be the text used to search for the article. Fieari (talk) 05:58, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Addendum: Also support "Kosher tax" -- This would be the more common thing people would look up when seeking info on a so-called "kosher tax"... I suppose a hatnote could be used to disambiguate with the much less common and much more obscure real kosher tax that exists/existed. Fieari (talk) 06:49, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Support - Several people suggested "Kosher tax conspiracy theory" in the previous discussion, and that seems to be the most popular suggestion. John Nagle (talk) 16:56, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * IMHO the most popular suggestion is simply "Kosher tax". Debresser (talk) 17:43, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * QED: "no consensus". --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 20:36, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Nope, a disagreement on what the consensus is. The closing admin will make up their own mind. Debresser (talk) 22:53, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

 * Oppose - This article should be about the antisemitic canard known as the kosher tax. An antisemitic canard is a hoax for inciting antisemitism. This article is about "the idea that unwilling food companies and unwitting consumers are forced to pay money to support the Jewish religion or Zionist causes and Israel through the costs of kosher certification." It is a "hoax for inciting antisemitism." The current title should be kept. Bus stop (talk) 07:14, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Your opinion of the nature of the myth or the motives of its alleged believers (?) is entirely inadmissible as an argument as to its title. Zerotalk 12:29, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Zinoviev letter and 'Elders of the protocol...' are also notorious hoaxes. It says that in para one of each.Pincrete (talk) 12:49, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I think most of us agree on the scope of this article. The move suggestion is not about changing the scope, but finding a more accessible title for the article in its current scope. Deryck C. 17:37, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

 * Oppose - seconding BusStop, and adding that we shouldn't be dumbing down either Wiki or the English vocabulary.--Lute88 (talk) 12:07, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Neither of your nor BusStop's comments are responsive to the issue of the article title. It is not under dispute that the Kosher tax is in antisemitic canard.  It is under dispute whether this fact should be mentioned parenthetically as part of the title, when this is basically never done elsewhere.  There are lots of true facts that do not go in the article title; we don't have Tiger (cat), World War I (war between Central Powers and Triple Entete), Diet Coke and Mentos eruption (cool chemistry trick), etc.  SnowFire (talk) 22:21, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The title is just fine, as there is a legitimate Kosher tax.--Galassi (talk) 00:22, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * An incredibly obscure one that was really more of a "Jewish tax" and that it's not clear if it's even really called "kosher tax" normally. But fine, even *if* the actual taxes stay at kosher tax, there's still Kosher tax conspiracy theory.  SnowFire (talk) 00:15, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * "Conspiracy theory" is not the most appropriate terminology. If the term "canard" were not available, we might avail ourselves of "conspiracy theory". We can look to sources and see what terminology is used in this instance and instances like this instance. In this article we find "A Parti Québécois candidate revives an old anti-Jewish canard about a 'kosher food tax,' and Premier Pauline Marois comes to her defence." In the same article I find "Here in Canada this anti-Semitic canard would arise occasionally." And another instance from the same article "However, in the Alice-in-Wonderland world of Quebec politics, Premier Pauline Marois not only refused to denounce the anti-Semitic canard of a “kosher-tax” conspiracy, astonishingly she came out with a full-throated defence of her candidate." I chose to highlight that article because it not only uses the term "anti-Jewish" and "anti-Semitic canard" but it does so in relation to the term "kosher tax". But this word combination of "anti semitic canard" comes up often. I contend that this is standard and normal terminology. A Google search shows plenty of current usages by good quality sources. Bus stop (talk) 00:50, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Missing context
One major aspect that is missing from the article is the lack of understanding among conspiracy proponents as to what kosher certification actually entails. Louise Mailloux was quoted as saying, "You can imagine the trick, getting paid to bless bottles of Coke. There are even rabbis who bless an entire truck in one go."

Kosher certification involves taking a close look at each of the individual ingredients that go into the product. The denial (or the ignorance) that it is an objective, physical reality that is being certified here is central to the "kosher tax" claims made by anti-Semites. There are no "blessings" involved in the process; nothing scientifically unverifiable is happening in the metaphysical realm. Acknowledging this truth strongly refutes claims that kosher certification are running a scam. You can't claim that kosher certification agencies are extorting companies for money if they will refuse to certify foods that by their very nature cannot be kosher. Kimpire (talk) 19:42, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * See Civil laws regarding kashrut, where this argument belongs. This issue has been litigated, because the Orthodox and Conservative branches in New York State didn't agree on what was kosher. US courts ruled that there was thus no objective standard, and the government could not try to enforce a religious opinion. Today, in the US it's a matter of trademark law; each kosher certifying organization has their own mark, and the government role is limited to stopping phony marking. John Nagle (talk) 21:25, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm familiar with the Orthodox vs. Conservative litigation, but that's not what I'm referring to. Regardless of denomination, there's no kashrut certification organization that does nothing but "bless the food" the way Mailloux claimed. Certainly the objective reality being attested by the kashrut symbol differs from organization to organization, but in all cases it is still an attestation of an objective reality. I think Mailloux's specific claims about blessings should be more explicitly mentioned in the article, as well as this refutation of them. Kimpire (talk) 05:15, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * There are some embarrassing exceptions. A discount importer of Jack Daniels whiskey lost their kosher certification in Israel. Same product as the other, higher priced importer. There's something of a kosher extortion racket in Jerusalem. But this belongs in the kashrus topic. John Nagle (talk) 06:21, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Exceptions are not the rule, especially since the conspiracy theory is pretty much by definition espoused only in the Diaspora. The Israeli chief rabbinate is a monopoly, and therefore often corrupt, but their certification asserts an objective reality (even if they sometimes withhold it for terrible reasons). That doesn't impact any aspect of my argument. The relevant context needs to be presented in the article. Kimpire (talk) 07:27, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Kimpire, your points are entirely valid, but in order to include them in this article, you would have to find sources that explicitly tie the Kosher tax conspiracy theory to this "misunderstanding". Perhaps antisemites promote this conspiracy theory because they think that kosher certification involves little more than "blessing" food; perhaps they promote it for entirely different reasons. Regardless, we need sources that make the explicit connection, otherwise it's original research. Jayjg <small style="color:darkgreen;">(talk) 22:05, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * For once, I agree with Jayjg. While there's a whole "our kosher is different/better than their kosher" thing between various organizations, (mostly in Jerusalem and NYC) that's not a "kosher tax" issue. John Nagle (talk) 01:04, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

The “refutation” section of the article is a classic example of arguing beside the point. The fact that it is costing consumers only a fraction of a cent per item, or that stores are able to pass it along and still make a profit, or that it increases volume and lowers prices, does not establish whether the practice is right or wrong. For example, there are cases in which bank tellers are able to commit serious amounts of embezzlement by randomly diverting a few cents from each account in the bank.

If the certifying organization(s) would just tell us how much annual revenue they collect, and the purposes for which they spend the money, a lot of questions would be answered. Yes, I know, they have no obligation to tell us, but if they did, it might clear up a lot of confusion.Alexander Springstea (talk) 18:19, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

 * Why should they bother revealing their business secrets solely to dampen conspiracy theories passed around by morons? --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 23:17, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

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Mario Artist (マリオアーティスト) is an interoperable suite of three games and one Internet application for Nintendo 64: Paint Studio, Talent Studio, Polygon Studio, and Communication Kit. These flagship disks for the 64DD peripheral were developed to turn the game console into an Internet multimedia workstation. A bundle of the 64DD unit, software disks, hardware accessories, and the Randnet online service subscription package was released in Japan starting in December 1999.

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Paint Studio

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Talent Studio
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Polygon Studio
Mario Artist: Polygon Studio, released on August 29, 2000, is a 3D computer graphics editor that lets the user design and render 3D polygon images with a simple level of detail. It has been described as a consumer version of the professional 3D graphics suite N-World, also by Nichimen Graphics. It was originally announced as Polygon Maker at Nintendo's Space World '96 trade show, demonstrated at Space World 1997 in November 1997, and renamed to Polygon Studio at Space World '99. It was scheduled as the final game in the original Starter Kit's mail order delivery of 64DD games, but it did not arrive on time, leading IGN to assume it was canceled until it was later released. The Expansion Pak and the Nintendo 64 Mouse are supported peripherals.

The idea of minigames was popularized generally during the Nintendo 64's fifth generation of video game consoles, and some early minigames appear in Polygon Studio in the style that were later used in the WarioWare series. Certain minigames originated in Polygon Studio, as explained by Goro Abe of Nintendo R&D1's so-called WarioWare All-Star Team: "In Polygon Studio you could create 3D models and animate them in the game, but there was also a side game included inside. In this game you would have to play short games that came one after another. This is where the idea for WarioWare came from."

The art form of papercraft was implemented by modeling the characters in Polygon Studio and then using Communication Kit to upload the data to Randnet's online printing service. The user finally cuts, folds, and pastes the resulting colored paper into a 3D physical figure.

Unreleased
An additional Mario Artist game, Mario Artist: Sound Maker, would have allowed users to create their own music tracks, but was ultimately cancelled. Three additional Maker titles unrelated to the Mario Artist suite were also announced, consisting of Game Maker, Graphical Message Maker, and Video Jockey Maker, though none of them ever saw release.

Reception
Nintendo World Report described the Mario Artist series as a "spiritual successor to Mario Paint". IGN collectively described the Mario Artist suite as a layperson's analog to professional quality graphics development software. They stated that the combination of the 64DD's mass writability and the Nintendo 64's 3D graphics allowed Nintendo to "leave CD systems behind", by offering "something that couldn't be done on any other gaming console on the market" to people "who want to unleash their creative talents and perhaps learn a little bit about graphics design on the side". The designer of Paint Studio, Software Creations, roughly estimated that 7,500 copies of that game may have been sold.

IGN rated Paint Studio at 7.0 ("Good") out of 10. Peer Schneider described it as a powerful, affordable, and easy-to-use 2D and 3D content creation tool unmatched by other video game consoles, although minimally comparable to personal computer applications. He likened it to an edutainment version of Adobe Photoshop for children, and a good neophyte introduction to the Internet. He considered Paint Studio to embody Nintendo's originally highly ambitious plans for 64DD, and to thus suffer greatly due to the cancellation of most Paint Studio-integrated disk games and the application's incompatibility with cartridge-based games.

Rating it at 8.2 ("Great") out of 10, IGN called Talent Studio the 64DD's "killer app" with a graphical interface that is "so easy to use that anyone can figure it out after a few minutes", and featuring "breathtaking motion-captured animation".

Legacy
Polygon Studio contains the minigame, "Sound Bomber", which consists of several microgames. This concept, envisioned by programmer Kouichi Kawamoto, inspired the creation of the WarioWare series.

Talent Studio gave rise to an unreleased GameCube prototype called Stage Debut, which in turn yielded character design features which became the Mii, the Mii Channel, and features of other games such as Wii Tennis.

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Phil Bolger

Philip C. Bolger (December 3, 1927 – May 24, 2009) was a prolific American boat designer, who was born and lived in Gloucester, Massachusetts. He began work full-time as a draftsman for boat designers Lindsay Lord and then John Hacker in the early 1950s.

Bolger's first boat design was a 32-foot (9.75 m) sportfisherman published in the January 1952 issue of Yachting magazine. He subsequently designed more than 668 different boats, from a 114-foot-10-inch (35 m) replica of an eighteenth-century naval warship, the frigate Surprise (ex-Rose), to the 6-foot-5-inch (1.96 m) plywood box-like dinghy Tortoise.

Although his designs ranged through the full spectrum of boat types, Bolger tended to favor simplicity over complexity. Many of his hulls are made from sheet materials — typically plywood — and have hard chines. A subclass of these designed in association with Harold Payson called Instant Boats were so named because they were intended to be easily built by amateurs out of commonly available materials. Bolger also advocated the use of traditional sailing rigs and leeboards.

From the 1990s, Phil Bolger teamed with his wife Susanne Altenburger, designing boats under the name Phil Bolger & Friends Inc. During this time, they emphasized the design of sustainable and fuel-efficient boats for the fishing industry. Also, they participated in a large military commission with the Naval Sea Systems Command on new designs for military landing craft utility boats.

Bolger was a prolific writer and wrote many books, the last being Boats with an Open Mind, as well as hundreds of magazine articles on small craft designs, chiefly in Woodenboat, Small Boat Journal and Messing About in Boats.

Bolger died on May 24, 2009, of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. His wife explained that "[h]is mind had slipped in the last several months, and he wanted to control the end of his life while he was still able."

Instant Boats
Phil Bolger was unconventional in many ways and, among many large boats, yachts and custom designs, took an interest in what he termed "evolving crafty ways of building boats". As far back as 1957 he designed "Poohsticks" as a small plywood rowing skiff to be simply and economically built at home (originally by his brother). From this simple start he went on to develop a large number of designs for small- and medium-sized craft using plywood as a material for one-off construction at home or by small boatyards.

In the 1970s, Phil Bolger began a long and successful collaboration with Harold 'Dynamite' Payson with Bolger designing the boats and Payson building them as well as selling plans and writing books about how to do it. 'Dynamite' called the first series of easy-to-build plywood boats "Instant Boats". Unlike traditional boat construction which involves building of jig and full size lofting of the shape of the hull prior to construction, the Instant Boat method uses shaped plywood panels on pre-shaped frames made of plywood and standard dimensional lumberyard wood. This results in quick construction and less requirement for skilled craftsmanship, and has proved appealing to amateur boat builders as well as many later designers who have followed in his footsteps, albeit much less prolifically.

Following articles in WoodenBoat magazine, Dynamite Payson published Instant Boats (1979, 152 pages, 7" × 10", 48 illustrations). It describes the original "Instant Boat" technique. Generically known as the "chine log method" or "simplified chine log method" the technique consists of (i) cutting body panels to a predetermined shape as given on the plans, (ii) wrapping them around frames or bulkheads, (iii) adding chines (small section planks of lumberyard wood) along the joints (either internally or externally) and fastening them together using glue and mechanical fasteners (nails or screws). The book described all the basic techniques (gluing, nailing and screwing with some fiberglass) to produce five designs: 12' Teal, 7'9" Elegant Punt, 12' Kayak, 31' Folding Schooner, 15'6" Surf, and 20'9" Zephyr. All these boats have single chines (i.e. have a bottom panel and two sides) and have their shape limited by the bevels given to the chines. The boats in Paysons book were designed for use on protected waters and none was self-bailing or designed to self-recover in case of capsize. However, Bolger designed many other boats using this building technique, including the ocean crossing AS-39 (or Loose Moose II) as well as a significant number of other boats.

Bolger's first generation of "chine log instant boats" for home building was followed by a generation of "stitch and glue" (aka "tack and tape") boats. This technique was made possible by the evolution of glues and the massification of polyester and epoxy resins combined with fiberglass tape. The new technique basically did away with the chine logs and mechanical fasteners and all the problems associated with their use (mainly the limitation of shape in the design phase, the carpentry challenge in the construction phase and damp/rot in the medium to long term). Instead of using a chine to join the precut panels, in stitch and glue, the preshaped panels are wrapped around bulkheads and/or frames in the same way as before. However, the panels are only temporarily held in place using nails, duct tape, cable ties, masking tape, wire or other mechanical means, while the seams are filled (both inside and outside the hull) with a resin and filler paste covered in one or more layers of fiberglass cloth or tape which in turn is saturated in resin. Once the resin hardens, the mechanical joint is stronger than the joined plywood and therefore structurally sound. Payson again popularised the technique in his book Build the New Instant Boats (1984, 160 pages, 8$1⁄2$" × 11", 110 illustrations - Also still in print). In this book Payson introduces what he termed "Tack and tape" to the greater American public. The book includes plans for Gypsy (15' sail/oar/outboard), Nymph (7'9" dinghy with sail option), Diablo (15' motor boat for up to 25 HP outboard) as well as 8 more "traditional instant boats" using the chine log method: 16' Lug-rigger Windsprint, 6'5" Tortoise, 8' Skimmer, Dynamite Sailboard, 16'June Bug, Madeline a 19'6" Pedal-driven sidewheeler and the 23'6" Light Schooner. In 2007 Payson published his last book Instant Boatbuilding with Dynamite Payson which basically explains both techniques in less detail than the previous books and presents complete plans for 15 boats by Bolger. These are: Stitch and Glue: Payson's Pirogue (13' - canoe), Cartopper (11'6" - sail/oar), Sweet Pea (15' - sail/oar), Ruben's Nymph (7'9" - identical to Nymph but 1' wider - sail/oar), Diablo Grande (18' - power), Catfish (15' - sail/outboard) and Chebacco (19'8" - sail/outboard). The

Sharpies
Bolger put a lot of thought into relatively cheap, high-performance boats. He is well known for designing a series of single chine sharpies, typically long and narrow with a flat bottom.

According to Bolger, sailing sharpies give good performance for the amount of sail they carry because of low to moderate displacement and light weight. In his opinion, the sharpie shape provides a simple construction in the plywood era with the added benefit that sailing sharpies extend the waterline as they heel, thereby effectively increasing the hull speed. Power sharpies can use low-horsepower motors (see, for example, the Bolger Tennessee, and Sneakeasy designs) yet reach planing speeds in sheltered waters. Major critics of sharpies point to the fact that they tend to pound under certain conditions and that the relatively shallow draft makes them unseaworthy. Their advocates (including Bolger) point to the fact that they are exceptionally good boats for their cost, make excellent day boats and are increasingly seaworthy as (i) the length to beam ratio increases, (ii) they are adequately ballasted and (iii) they are given reserve stability and/or made watertight sufficiently to ensure that they self-right in the event of a capsize. Sharpies may be considered one of the simplest types of boat from the construction point of view. However, their design is controversial and primarily dependent on the intended use.

Bolger is particularly known for his Square Boats (derogatorily known as "Bolger Boxes"). Bolger reasoned that a simple rockered bottom and vertical sides gives the most volume, and form stability, on a given beam. After experimenting and studying traditional sharpies and the writings of small-boat historian Howard I. Chapelle and others, he developed the theory that the optimum chine line for a sailing sharpie should represent a regular curve without breaks, changes in radius or straight sections. He further reasoned that the curve of side and bottom should match as much as possible to reduce turbulence. He further reasoned that the sharpie was an ideal shape for a trailer sailer with either leeboards or bilgeboards to provide lateral plane. Bolger felt that the traditional sharpie shape Chapelle had documented based on traditional New England sharpies (with a slightly different chine profile) was inefficient and prone to causing steering difficulties.

Both designers thought traditional rigs and boat types were suitable for small yachts, especially sailing boats. Generally, Chapelle noted that neither transom nor bow should be immersed when the boat is loaded, a point on which Bolger agreed. Later in his career Phil Bolger and Friends developed modifications to the simple sharpie bow to avoid hull slap at anchor at the expense of a much more complex geometry.

Bolger evolved the concept of traditional sharpies and by squaring off the bow and stern to give the longest useful waterline. Most were configured as yawls (with main mast quite far forward and a small mizzen far aft). The bow on these designs is cut off and blunt and the sterns are vertical. In some designs an open bow can allow passage to land if the boat is beached, space for holding anchors and cables, or clearance to step and unstep a mast. Oldshoe, Micro and Long Micro have shallow ballasted full length keels whereas what he called the "Advanced Sharpies" AS19, AS29 and AS39 have one or two bilgeboards and inside ballast. The latter are very definitely in the extended cruise/liveaboard category.

Leeboards and rigs
Bolger championed leeboards as low-tech and practical, to the chagrin of many yachties. The conventional wisdom is that they are ugly. Even many of his centerboard designs had boards that were off-center or all the way to one side or the other (for example, the Birdwatcher and the AS29). He concluded that a single leeboard is sufficient in many cases on small boats, and that rigs could be stepped off the centerline without much effect on performance. Bolger advocated leeboards as being a simple means of providing lateral plane to all types of sailing vessel, eliminating many of the disadvantages of centerboards, daggerboards and keels, following broadly in the concepts of L. Francis Herreshoff, various years his senior and, as stated by Bolger, one of the most influential yacht designers from his perspective.

He used traditional rigs, from the simplest "Cat rig" (single sail) through sloops, many yawls and schooners at a time when almost all other designers were concentrating purely on racing rule derived sloops. The diversity of rigs was accompanied by a broad spectrum of sails including the sprit-boomed leg of mutton, the sprit sail, the gaff sail, the lug sail and the lateen in addition to the classic Bermudan/marconi rig. His book '100 Sailing Rigs "Straight talk"' later reedited as '103 Sailing Rigs "Straight talk"' provides a fascinating look at both rig configurations and sail types as well as his insight into a subject in which he was undoubtedly an expert.

His experience over the years with well over 600 designs allowed him ample space to experiment with all kinds of designs, rigs and materials. His comments on each subject in books as well as articles published in magazines of the period are based on his research, analysis, first hand experience and use of the different configurations. He is further very clear in explaining the mistakes and corrections he made in each case, and why.

Later years - Advanced Gloucester Fisherman Project

Beginning in November 2002, Bolger and Altenberger began a re-examination of  fisheries economics, as a result of the partial collapse of the industry both globally and locally in their hometown of Gloucester, Massachusetts. Their proposal centered on the principle that, in an era of high fuel cost and economic pressure for modernization of depressed fishing ports, sustainable fisheries require a balance of business economics and public planning versus the available fishery resources.

They argued the key to this was a restructuring of the fishing fleet towards boats with lower complexity, lower initial cost, better fuel economy, and lower operating costs.

"Most modern vessels are horsepower intensive concepts with often oversized drive trains that cost extra in terms of hardware, operation, repair and replacement. ... Today this is as economical and sustainable as taking a Suburban™ [sic]-size SUV to the mall to buy a pair of socks."

Large expensive complex boats demand taking a high number of fish to be economical. Simpler, lower powered, and lower cost boats can still be economical with lower fish catch rates.

Bolger and Altenberger expressed concern that existing governmental fishing permits issued based on length of the fishing boat, created an incentive to use inefficient wide and deep fishing boat hulls. If the fishing permits were issued based instead on displacement tonnage of the hull, then the incentive would be for the fishing industry to use long, narrow and shallow hulls which would be more economical to purchase and to operate per ton of fish caught.

The existing fishing fleet, composed of ever larger boats with high construction costs, debt loads and operational costs, in the long run forced fishermen to search for ever increasing catch sizes to remain economic while in a fight against regulatory quotas.

Bolger and Altenburger argued that, ultimately, fishermen would find it more economically sustainable to do more with less. A consolidated fleet of smaller more economical vessels could make it possible for fishermen to survive with lower catch rates, lower debt load, lower fuel burn, lower insurance rates and lower depreciation.

This idea was described in the September 2004 issue of the magazine National Fisherman, and again in 2007 as a series of essays published in the magazine Messing About in Boats. The project to build a prototype was authorised but was never developed on any significant commercial scale within Phil Bolger's lifetime.

Design list
Listed below are a selection of more commonly encountered designs by Phil Bolger.

Bolger-related websites

 * Square Boats - dedicated to Bolger's boxy sharpies
 * Instant Boats online catalogue - a catalogue of the Instant Boat class of Bolger plywood boats
 * Messing About in Boats magazine - Phil Bolger and Friends currently publish a regular article in the magazine Messing About in Boats.
 * Yahoo! Bolger Group - a Yahoo! discussion group dedicated to Bolger's designs
 * Bolger Design Database - The Bolger Yahoo! group maintains a partial listing of Bolger boat designs.
 * Bolger Boats on the Web - a large collection of websites with photos of Bolger Boats under construction and on the water

Bolger rowboats

 * Nymph, design #455

Bolger sailboats

 * Sweet Pea Peapod 'Sweet Pea' design
 * Birdwatcher I
 * Birdwatcher II
 * Seabird '86, design #525

 * Superbrick

 * Schorpioen, design #649, trailerable, foldable, trimaran. This design was commissioned by Edward Medalis but he never built his dream boat.
 * Eeek!, 11'9" sailing canoe
 * Bolger Peero, shareware plans for the 12-foot Peero, or tiny sailing sharpie canoe. Published in Messing About in Boats. A successor to Eeek!

Bolger power boats

 * Barge Houseboat, design #481
 * Bonefish Concept, a 20"0" × 7'9" × 1"6" sportfisher with air-cooled engine.

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Island of Mozambique

The Island of Mozambique (Ilha de Moçambique) lies off northern Mozambique, between the Mozambique Channel and Mossuril Bay, and is part of Nampula Province. Prior to 1898, it was the capital of colonial Portuguese East Africa. With its rich history and sandy beaches, the Island of Mozambique is a UNESCO World Heritage Site and one of Mozambique's fastest-growing tourist destinations. It has a permanent population of approximately 14,000 people and is served by nearby Lumbo Airport on the Nampula mainland. The name of the country, Mozambique, is derived from the name of this island.

History
Pottery found on Mozambique Island indicates that the town was founded no later than the fourteenth century. According to tradition, the original Swahili population came from Kilwa. The town's rulers had links with the rulers of both Angoche and Quelimane by the fifteenth century. In 1514, Duarte Barbosa noted that the town had a Muslim population and that they spoke the same Swahili dialect as Angoche.

The name of the island (Moçambique, pronounced ) is derived from Ali Musa Mbiki (Mussa Bin Bique), sultan of the island in the times of Vasco da Gama. This name was subsequently taken to the mainland country which is modern-day Mozambique, and the island was renamed Ilha de Moçambique (Island of Mozambique). The Portuguese established a port and naval base in 1507 and built the Chapel of Nossa Senhora de Baluarte in 1522, now considered the oldest European building in the Southern Hemisphere.

During the 16th century, the Fort São Sebastião was built, and the Portuguese settlement (now known as Stone Town) became the capital of Portuguese East Africa. The island also became an important missionary centre. It withstood Dutch attacks in 1607 and 1608 and remained a major post for the Portuguese on their trips to India. It saw the trading of slaves, spices, and gold.

Apart from the ancient fortifications, only half of the town is stone-built. The hospital, a majestic neo-classical building constructed in 1877 by the Portuguese, with a garden decorated with ponds and fountains, was repainted white after the Mozambican Civil War. For many years, it was the biggest hospital south of the Sahara.

With the opening of the Suez Canal, the island's fortunes waned. In 1898, the capital was moved to Lourenço Marques (now Maputo) on the mainland. By the middle of the 20th century, the new harbour of Nacala took most of the remaining business.

Attractions
Other notable buildings on the island include the Palace and Chapel of São Paulo, built in 1640 as a Jesuit College and subsequently used as the Governor's Residence, now a museum; the Museum of Sacred Art, housed in the Church of the Misericórdia run by the House of Mercy, displaying an excellent Makonde crucifix; the Church of Santo António; the Church of the Misericórdia; and the Chapel of Nossa Senhora de Baluarte. The island, now entirely urbanised, is also home to several mosques and a Hindu temple. A 3 km bridge was erected in the 1960s to connect it to the mainland.

The island in itself is not large, about 3 km long and between 200 and 500 metres wide. Most historical buildings are at the island's northern end. The majority of the residents live in reed houses in Makuti Town at the southern end of the island.

Gallery
The island is also close to two tourist highlights: Chocas Mar, a long beach about 40 km north of Ilha de Moçambique across the Mossuril Bay and Cabaceiras.

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User talk:Tom Gore

Welcome
It used to be that everyone arriving on Planet Wikipedia would find a welcome laid out for them. Nobody seems to be doing that now; but since I'm about to go into something else, let me at least do the courteous thing and welcome you — quite sincerely — to Wikipedia. (OK, so what follows is a bit of a critique; we were all newbies once, and you'll adjust, it's OK.) Bill 20:59, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Links in Wiki articles
Wikipedia is not a means of self-promotion....! If everyone who had pages on Venice and Rome with 20‑30 photographs inserted linnks to them, the article would be drowning in many hundreds of such links — and (official policy, see What Wikipedia is Not) Wikipedia is not a link collection, for the reasons given there.

Probably good links
Your Atget page, a good page in itself, is marginal for Wikipedia, because you don't seem to include the Atget pages, just your own rephotographs (unless I misread your site, in which case an immediate apology from me); but since there is not that much available online, it's almost certainly a valid resource. Similarly, but even more so, maybe, your page on graffiti is germane and probably large enough: that's a good link (by me, anyway: maybe others will disagree, who know more about graffiti).

Probably not good
Your Rome and Venice pages, while again fine in themselves, are just too small to be noteworthy or useful to the reader of the encyclopedia articles, and I will continue to delete them; others probably will, too. (To give an example, I myself run a very large site on Italy, with over 1000 large photographs of the country and many hundreds of pages of text, including at least 5 entire books; but because my site does not cover the country well, i.e., not generally enough — it focuses almost exclusively on Rome and Umbria — you won't find it among the links under Italy.)

Definitely not good
Your Metaphors link, on the other hand, is a blatant example of what is called "link spam": a link inserted just to get you linked from Wikipedia. On the other hand, a friendly tip, something that would improve the Metaphor article a lot, and would also immediately make your link valid for the page: since the current article does not address photographic metaphors, if you can write some convincing text explaining what they are — suddenly your link to your own Metaphors page would become perfectly germane, and a useful illustration of the article: I encourage you to write it! Best, Bill 20:59, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Reply to your e-mail (my reply was bounced by your spam filters this morning!)
Hi Tom (dreading this in fact! because by temperament I run pretty bad from almost anything controversial), and thus right off: boy do I appreciate your kind approach to me; my edits must have been really galling.

First I should point out that all the small pictures on each index page (Venice, Rome, Paris etc.) are buttons that link to large whole versions of the pictures, as do those on your web pages.

On the Atget page, for example, each linked secondary page does have the Atget original, as well as the rephotograph.

Yes, I saw your larger photos (at least Rome and Venice); But not Atget, for which apologies, I should have checked, I just knew I'd trip myself up! --> You'll see my fix at the Eugène Atget page, made just this minute: with 30 original Atget's, that puts you ahead of the other site I found, of course.

(Much more minor paren here: my own icon pictures, very few link to large versions of the photo -- they usually link to full pages or even large subsites with a fair amount of text, and often further photos. The great exceptions are the index pages "Churches of Rome" and "Churches of Umbria", where I consider such blank links a serious flaw, and have been working steadily at expanding them: on the other hand, better a photo than nothing.)

So it's not a matter of censorship, but of rational selection by consensus: if Wikipedia had no pruning mechanism, it would drown in all kinds of stuff; and as it is, it's bad enough: an incredible amount of Pokémon, third-rate commercial fantasy movies, the most minor of rock stars, etc.

In the matter of links, a sort of rule of thumb (mine, but based on WP:WIN "Wikipedia is not a directory") is that the link list shouldn't approach the length of the article. The longer the article, the more links is OK.

Now for many years I ran a huge subsite, now deleted, of LacusCurtius, called RomanSites, cataloguing "all" the ancient Roman resources out there, which made me awfully familiar with pages of captioned and uncaptioned photos: there are many hundreds, probably even thousands, of them: if 30 or 50 photos made a site Wikipedia-worthy, that link list would far exceed the length of the article. Take a look for example at these collections, some off the top of my head from previous knowledge of them, others from 5 minutes with Google: http://tinyurl.com/8n4gp 58 pix in that gallery alone, and see under "Quick Jump", 83 more, including 19 from the 1800s. I've been an active member of that (noncommercial) board, but notice that I haven't inserted a link to it, despite the associated resources on Rome, just not large/good enough, that you'll find at  http://www.slowtrav.com/italy/

http://tinyurl.com/9m79t Flickr's 32,000 photos of Rome (Large, but not really a resource, not linked on Wikipedia) http://tinyurl.com/ccdfo 108 pages of Rome photos, something like 5000 pictures. (same remark)

And more typically, hundreds of pages like this http://sabin.ro/gallery/album412 (109 photos)

Now I don't give most of my time to Wikipedia, so haven't put in a lot of links; if I had, Maecenas http://wings.buffalo.edu/AandL/Maecenas/general_contents.html#Italy%20-%20Rome might be among them: hundreds of photos, intelligently sorted around a theme.

My images are not documents, rather they are visual analyses and critiques.

That said, Bill, I acknowledge that you have, in fact, reduced me to words!

I sympathize enormously with your viewpoint Tom: it is to a fair extent my own as well. But the word-people do still run the world; as the saying is, a picture is worth -- 10,000 words! Especially in the age of instant photography, an uncommented, undissected picture is competing with thousands of others and nothing to winnow out the chaff. From a practical point, by the way, not bowing down to words badly skews the availability of your own pages: since Google, the de facto Lord of the Web, counts on text to index its pages. Look at this page for example: http://tinyurl.com/968nu You're not on it; yet you should be: for that specific query, your site is better than every one of them! and similarly for other appropriate keywords. Words are how people find resources, no matter how visual we are.

You may want to poke around on Wikipedia -- if the hassles (and I know, I've been one of them myself!) don't disgust you and waste your time -- and see how you might nudge it toward the visual. Will it cost you much of your principles to insert a bit about photography or true visual images in the article "Metaphor" for example?

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Quasar (brand)

Quasar is an American brand of electronics, first used by Motorola in 1967 for a model line of transistorized color televisions. These TVs were marketed as containing all serviceable parts in a drawer beside the picture tube. It was then established as a subsidiary brand, with all Motorola-manufactured televisions being sold as Quasar by Motorola. In 1974, Motorola sold its television business to Matsushita Electric, now Panasonic, which continued producing and marketing televisions under the Quasar brand until 2005. In 2013, Panasonic re-registered the Quasar trademark.

History
Quasar was established as a television brand in 1967 by Motorola, who wanted to emphasize the simplified design of their all-transistor television sets; the chassis was designed in such a way that the electronic components were contained within a drawer that could be slid out by a technician for easy replacement or repair.

On May 29, 1974, Motorola, Inc., sold its television manufacturing division—including its plants in Pontiac, Illinois; Franklin Park, Illinois; and Markham, Ontario—to Matsushita. Production of home television receivers continued under a newly incorporated entity, Quasar Electronics, Inc., an American-managed subsidiary of Matsushita Electronic Corporation of America (MECA). Motorola continued to operate a plant in Quincy, Illinois, until 1976, when this also was transferred to Matsushita. In the late 1970s, Quasar Company was established as a sales operation, with Quasar Electronics, Inc., manufacturing both televisions and microwave ovens in Franklin Park, Illinois. In 1981, improved production operations at this plant were praised by the media and management specialists, and quality control employees noted that they rarely were required to repair manufacturing defects, which had been a problem previously. The Franklin Park plant and Matushita's management and manufacturing processes were discussed in Theory Z, a book by University of California, Los Angeles management professor William Ouchi.

In 1999, the Quasar brand was revived to serve as low-priced models of home electronics for Costco Wholesale stores, with the VHQ-940 VHS VCR model being the #1 best-selling VCR in America during the 1999 Christmas holiday shopping season. Then, VHQ-40M and VHQ-41M as successors for the next three years. Quasar's brand recognition and sales peaked by 2000–2001 and has declined ever since. By 2004, Quasar Electronics, Inc. and Quasar Company ceased to exist, after declining demand for VCRs and CRT televisions caused Costco to end the sales agreement.

After Costco ceased selling Quasar-branded electronics, the name was little used in North America, typically affixed to a few discontinued products from the Panasonic line being offered as closeout value products in drug stores and supermarkets. The trademark expired in 2007, by which time it was only being used on window air conditioners. In 2013, Panasonic re-registered the Quasar trademark to be used on a wide variety of electronics.

In the media
According to a 1992 episode of the PBS investigative documentary program Frontline, entitled "Coming from Japan", Matsushita's acquisition of Motorola's Consumer Division was the beginning of the downfall of the U.S. TV industry. Frontline stated that Matsushita's acquisition was a ruse intended to allow Japanese-made sets, and sets assembled of Japanese parts, to avoid tariffs, with products under the Quasar brand still considered "domestically made", although Quasar's U.S.-based engineering, management and manufacturing division was slowly being liquidated. Some of the American management who transitioned to Matsushita's Quasar after the acquisition said that they were laid off en masse; they filed a discrimination lawsuit afterwards. The lawsuit was initially victorious, but overturned on appeal in 1991 when the Seventh Circuit Federal Appeals Court ruled that Matsushita's decision to treat executives differently based on citizenship rather than national origin was not legally discrimination.

In Brazil
There was a company called "Quasar" in Brazil, this company apparently has no connection with the original company. This company operates from 1960 to 1982.

This company used the Quasar Logo described here at the end of its existence. Apparently this company was genuine as it was founded in 1960. This company manufactured receivers, amplifiers, turntables, equalizers, among others. One turntable of the company was displayed on the MOMA, the "Float Quartz Transcriptor Pi-One". Only 21 units was made. The company stood out because exclusive devices, like the QFM1400, a turner with a "vu meter" style tuning dial.

The products were of high quality, with all electronic components being tested before being used in assembly and manufacturing.

title: Quasar (brand)