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Trouble Man (album)

Trouble Man is a soundtrack and the twelfth studio album by American soul singer Marvin Gaye, released on December 8, 1972, on Motown-subsidiary label Tamla Records. As the soundtrack to the 1972 Blaxploitation film of the same name, the Trouble Man soundtrack was a more contemporary move for Gaye, following his politically charged album What's Going On. This was the first album to be written and produced solely by Gaye. The only other album recorded under his full creative control was In Our Lifetime, released in 1981.

Recording
Following the success of What's Going On, Marvin Gaye had not only won creative control, but a renewed $1 million contract with Motown Records subsidiary Tamla had made the musician the most profitable R&B artist of all time.

Signing the contract in early 1972, Gaye sought to take advantage of his opportunities. Bolstered by the successes of film soundtracks such as Shaft and Superfly, Motown offered the musician a chance to compose his own film soundtrack after winning rights to produce the crime thriller, Trouble Man.

Unlike Isaac Hayes and Curtis Mayfield, who mixed social commentary with sexual songs in their respective soundtracks, Gaye chose to focus primarily on the film's character, "Mister T", producing and composing the film's score while entirely producing the film's soundtrack, which was recorded at Motown Studios (or "Hitsville West") in Hollywood.

Following the closing of Detroit's Hitsville USA studios in 1972, Motown had primarily moved its location to Los Angeles, where Gaye also relocated while he recorded the Trouble Man album. Gaye invited several musicians, including some from the Funk Brothers and musicians from Hamilton Bohannon's band.

Gaye would compose five different versions of the title track, including an alternate vocal version, which was used primarily for the film's intro. The alternate version featured Gaye double-tracking two lead vocal parts into one, overlaying his falsetto vocals with his tenor. The single version, which was also featured on the soundtrack, would feature a single lead vocal take. The other three versions were put on the album as instrumentals with Gaye providing synthesizer keyboards while saxophone solos (and occasionally guitar) accompany him.

The only other songs in which Gaye vocalized harmonies or performed lead vocals included "Poor Abbey Walsh", "Cleo's Apartment", "Life is a Gamble", "Don't Mess with Mister T" and "There Goes Mister T".

Critical reception
Bolstered by the hit success of the title track, which returned Gaye to a blues format reaching number 4 on the Soul Chart and number 7 on the Pop Charts, respectively, the album followed in December where it reached the top 20 of the Billboard 200, peaking at number 12. On Cashbox and Record World Magazines Charts the album even reached the Top 5, hitting almost as high as its monumental predecessor What‘s Going On, eighteen months earlier.Eventually being rewarded with a gold disc at Motown Records.

It would become Gaye's only soundtrack and film score. Critics gave the album favorable reviews while sometimes comparing Gaye's soundtrack efforts to that of Hayes' and Mayfield's. Following this, other R&B musicians would produce soundtracks of their own, including James Brown, Barry White and fellow Motown acts, Willie Hutch and Edwin Starr.

In popular culture
The title track plays in the 1995 film Se7en while Morgan Freeman's character, Detective Somerset, is having dinner with Brad Pitt's character, Detective Mills, and his wife Tracy Mills, played by Gwyneth Paltrow.

The title track features during the opening credits of the 2005 film Four Brothers.

In the 2014 film Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Sam Wilson recommends the album as essential listening to Steve Rogers, who had until recently been frozen in ice since the Second World War: Wilson says it's "everything you missed jammed into one album". Towards the end of the film the titular track is playing on an iPhone.

In the episode "Power Broker" of the 2021 Disney+ series The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Wilson notices that Bucky Barnes has the same pocket notebook and mentions that he had recommended the album to Rogers. When Barnes does not seem to share the same level of enthusiasm for the album, Baron Helmut Zemo enthuses flamboyantly about the album, telling Barnes that it is "...a masterpiece. Complete. Comprehensive. It captures the African-American experience", much to Wilson's amazement. The episode aired on Marvin Gaye's birthday.

Track listing
All songs written by Marvin Gaye.

Original LP
Side One
 * 1) "Main Theme from Trouble Man (2)" – 2:30
 * 2) "'T' Plays It Cool" – 4:27
 * 3) "Poor Abbey Walsh" – 4:13
 * 4) "The Break In (Police Shoot Big)" – 1:57
 * 5) "Cleo's Apartment" – 2:10
 * 6) "Trouble Man" – 3:49
 * 7) "Theme from Trouble Man" – 2:01

Side Two
 * 1) "'T' Stands for Trouble" – 4:48
 * 2) "Main Theme from Trouble Man (1)" – 3:52
 * 3) "Life Is a Gamble" – 2:32
 * 4) "Deep-in-It" – 1:25
 * 5) "Don't Mess with Mister 'T'" – 3:04
 * 6) "There Goes Mister 'T'" – 1:37

2012 Reissue
Disc one (bonus tracks)
 * 1) Main Theme From Trouble Man (2) (Alternate Take With Strings)
 * 2) "T" Plays It Cool (Unedited)
 * 3) Poor Abbey Walsh, Part 2 (Take 1)
 * 4) Poor Abbey Walsh, Part 2 (Take 2)
 * 5) Trouble Man (Extended Version)
 * 6) Theme From Trouble Man (Vocal Version)
 * 7) "T" Stands For Trouble (Unedited Vocal Version)
 * 8) "T" Stands For Trouble (Alternate Version)
 * 9) Main Theme From Trouble Man (Vocal Version)

Disc two (Original Film Score)
 * 1) Trouble Man
 * 2) Poor Hall
 * 3) "T" Plays It Cool
 * 4) Cadillac Interlude / Cleo's Apartment
 * 5) Man Tied Up / Jimmy's West / Conversation With Cleo
 * 6) Crap Game (A.K.A. The Break In) / Getting Rid Of Body / Talking To Angel
 * 7) Outside Police Station
 * 8) Bowling Alley / Parking Lot
 * 9) Stick Up
 * 10) Cleaners / Cleo
 * 11) Closing Jimmy's
 * 12) Police Break In
 * 13) "T" Cleans Up / Police Station
 * 14) Packing Up / Jimmy Gets Worked / Saying Goodbye / "T" Breaks In / Movie Theater
 * 15) Car Ride / Looking For Pete
 * 16) Parking Garage / Elevator
 * 17) Penthouse
 * 18) Getting Pete
 * 19) My Name Is "T" / End Credits
 * 20) "T" At The Cross (film band bonus)

Musicians

 * Marvin Gaye – vocals, drums, keyboards, piano, synthesizers, producer, arranger (9)
 * Trevor Lawrence – alto, tenor and baritone saxophones
 * Dale Oehler – horn & rhythm arrangements (track 9)
 * Eli Fountain –  alto saxophone
 * Marty Montgomery –  soprano saxophone
 * Gene Page – strings (track 9)
 * Robert O. Ragland – piano, string arrangements (track 7)
 * James Anthony Carmichael – horn arrangements (track 7)
 * Nesbert Stix Hooper - drums
 * Leon Ndugu Chancler - drums
 * Ray Parker Jr - guitar
 * David T.Walker - guitar

Production

 * Dale Oehler – arranger (tracks 1, 6)
 * Gene Page – arranger (9)
 * Jack Hayes – arranger (3, 10–13)
 * J.J. Johnson – arranger (8)
 * Robert O. Ragland – arranger (4–5)
 * Leo Shuken – arranger (3, 10–13)
 * Jerry Long – arranger (2)

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re: "On December 28, 2018, ICQ stopped working on unofficial clients." Can anyone verify this? ICQ continues to work for me on Pidgin Denovoid (talk) 12:21, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 * They dropped old auth scheme, so some clients (unofficial and official like 2003b) are stopped work. Pidgin uses new scheme. But if ICQ owner (Mail.ru corp) in the future disable the old protocol (OSCAR) entirely, pidgin will die (and will need to implement a new protocol - WIM). 109.172.108.69 (talk) 17:48, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

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"When logging into an account, the chat can be accessed from any device thanks to cloud synchronization"

Thanks to?

There seem to be a lot of these redundant words in the text that aren't that objective. 82.168.248.250 (talk) 08:13, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

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Eberouge

Eberouge (エーベルージュ) is a video game developed by Japan Media Programming and published by Takara on the Sega Saturn and PlayStation in Japan in 1997. It is a dating sim game with similar gameplay and graphical representation to Konami's Tokimeki Memorial.

Story and World Setting
The story happens in a parallel world named EbeLand. The setting is similar to the medieval age in Europe. Magic is common and is a common subject taught in colleges. In this world, the ecosystem is originated and supported by a central huge tree. However, due to the overdevelopment of industries and use of fossil fuel, global warming is rampant. The huge tree is dying, which endangers the game world.

Long ago, this land was saved by the Goddess Ebe from total destruction, but years later, an archeologist among the survivors felt the balance of the land tipping again. So he created institutes to train a student that can create magic, as the Goddess did, to save the land once more.

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WAWB-TV 65 Page
Yo, What's up Scrabbleship,

This is Time1, you can merge the WAWB-TV 65 page to the WUPV page and I promise I won't restore this page again.--Time1 13:37, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

WAMC
Wouldn't a proper page move be better than a cut and paste move on this article (in order to preserve the history)? I will merge the page histories later when I have some time. Have you done this before, let me know and I will merge those too. Feel free to contact me anytime you need help, I can delete the target article for you when necessary to effect a proper move :-). NoSeptember   talk  22:54, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I tried doing a proper page move, however at the time I thought the existance of "WAMC" being a disambiguation page for "WAMC (Albany)" would not work. Right after I did the cut-and-paste, I realized my simple error. I'll do the switcharoo at some point so that the history of "WAMC (Albany)" becomes that of "WAMC". Scrabbleship 23:14, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
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WLNS
Where are you from? Obviously not Mid-Michigan as I saw the changeover from WJIM-TV to WLNS. Steelbeard1 01:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Before this gets out of hand, here is the text of a New York Times summary dated July 20, 1983 announcing Gross's sale of WJIM-TV to Universal Communications aka Unicom aka Bakke Communications (all one in the same).

''The Universal Communications Corporation has agreed to buy two television stations - WJIM-TV in Lansing, Mich., and WKBT-TV in La-Crosse, Wis. - from Gross Telecasting Inc. of Lansing for $45 million in cash.

Universal, which is owned by Forstmann Little & Company and a former CBS president, John D. Backe, announced previously that it plans to become a broad-based communications company. Recently it acquired WRGB-TV of Schenectady, N.Y., from the General Electric Broadcasting Company.''

As the saying goes, six of one, half dozen of the other. My apologies Scrabbleship 03:21, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

How do you explain the on-air name of WLNS's owner being Backe Communications? Please mention Backe or face having the section revised again. Steelbeard1 11:16, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

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I noticed that you removed these ratings and didn't see an explanation on Talk or the edit summary. Without that info, it's difficult to tell if an editor is vandalizing pages. Antonrojo 03:48, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
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Ray Browning

Ray Browning is a fitness expert, biomechanist and former professional triathlete. He focuses on motivating and educating people to live healthy and active lifestyles.

During his career as a professional triathlete, he captured seven Ironman titles and was the 1993 Mountain Man Winter Triathlon champion.

Browning hosted seasons six and seven of the PBS television series Trailside: Make Your Own Adventure.

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Katherine Legge

Katherine Anne Legge (born 12 July 1980) is a British professional auto racing driver who competes part-time in the IMSA SportsCar Championship and part-time in the IndyCar Series, driving the No. 51 Honda for Dale Coyne Racing with backing from e.l.f. She holds the record for the fastest qualifying effort for a woman in Indianapolis 500 history, set in 2023, and was the first woman to win a major open-wheel race in North America in 2005.

Early racing and Atlantics
Prior to joining the Toyota Atlantic series, Guildford-born Legge raced in several developmental open-wheel series in Britain, including Formula Three, Formula Renault and Formula Ford. In 2000, she was the first woman to achieve a pole in a Zetec race. In 2001, she beat Kimi Räikkönen's lap record and achieved a pole, and she was the first woman to receive the BRDC's "Rising Star" accolade.

Legge's move to the United States came about in 2004, when after running out of finances to continue her racing career, she visited the UK offices of Cosworth, refusing to leave until she had met Cosworth boss Kevin Kalkhoven. Kalkhoven sent his daughter to speak to Legge to get her to leave: after a brief conversation with Legge, she instead told Kalkhoven that he should meet with her. Kalkhoven then offered her a drive in the first three rounds of the 2005 Toyota Atlantic Championship with Polestar Motor Racing: this was her first full-time drive. She won the series opener at Long Beach in her first career Atlantic start. In doing so, she became the first woman to win a developmental open-wheel race in North America. Legge went on to take her second and third wins of the season at Edmonton and San Jose. She finished the season 3rd in the championship with three wins and five podiums. She also received the Toyota Atlantic BBS Rising Star 2005 Award.

In November 2005, Legge became the first woman to test a Formula One car since Sarah Fisher in 2002, when she tested on the second and third days (22 and 23 November) of the Minardi team's final testing session at Vallelunga. After she crashed after 2 laps on her first run on the track, it was decided to postpone the test until the following day, on which she completed 27 laps with a best lap time of 1:21.176. She was also the first woman to test an A1 Grand Prix car, on 9–11 December 2005 with A1 Team Great Britain.

She received the 2005 RACER Magazine "Most Promising Road Racer of The Year" award.

Champ Car
In the 2005–2006 off-season, Legge tested a Champ Car once for Rocketsports Racing and twice for PKV Racing. In February 2006, it was announced that she would drive for PKV Racing in the 2006 Champ Car season. In June, she became the first woman to lead a lap in series history, leading 12 laps at Milwaukee. Legge suffered a violent accident at the 2006 Grand Prix of Road America when the rear wing of her car broke; she was able to walk away from the car unharmed.

Legge drove for Dale Coyne Racing in 2007, and her best result in the series was sixth place, twice.

DTM
In 2008, Legge moved to the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters series, driving for Colin Kolles' Futurecom TME Audi team. For 2009 and 2010 she raced for the Abt Sportsline team, who were the 2008 champions. For 2009 she was the only one of the 5 drivers in the Abt Sportline team using the previous year's car.

IndyCar
In January 2012, Legge signed with Dragon Racing in the IndyCar Series, alongside Frenchman Sébastien Bourdais. Legge reached a two-year agreement with sponsor TrueCar as part of their Women Empowered campaign. However, since the Lotus engines were shown to be uncompetitive, the team made a change to Chevrolet engines. But team owner Jay Penske could only procure one Chevrolet engine lease agreement for the team, so they could only enter one car per race after Indianapolis. Therefore, for the remainder of 2012, Dragon entered Bourdais at the road and street courses, and Legge at oval tracks, except for Sonoma Raceway where both drivers were able to compete. Legge finished 26th in points, competing in ten of the 15 races, and had a best finish of ninth in the 2012 MAVTV 500 IndyCar World Championships at Auto Club Speedway.

Legge participated in the 2013 Indianapolis 500 race, as a joint venture between Schmidt Peterson Motorsports and Team Pelfrey. She took her first practice laps on bump day, and qualified 33rd. She ended the race in 26th.

In May 2015, Legge announced her involvement with the Grace Autosport project to enter the 2016 Indianapolis 500 race. Working with the support of the FIA's Women in Motorsport Commission, the all-female team set out to promote technology and engineering as a career for young women. The team was unable to acquire a chassis, and subsequently did not enter the race.

Legge entered the 2023 Indianapolis 500, 10 years after her previous entry. She qualified 30th, setting a new qualifying speed record for female drivers (231.070 mph/371.871 km/h). She was the only Rahal Letterman Lanigan driver to avoid bump day. Legge suffered multiple mechanical issues and a crash in the days leading up to the race. On lap 35 she lost control leaving the pit lane and hit the inside pit wall. She tried to continue the race, but was forced to retire on lap 41.

For the 2024 Indianapolis 500 she drove for Dale Coyne Racing with Rick Ware Racing, using e.l.f. Cosmetics as her primary sponsor. On bump day she brushed the wall on her last lap, but kept her foot on the gas to qualify 31st. Her race ended when she suffered an engine failure on Lap 23. Legge returned to the team for the double-header at Iowa Speedway.

SportsCar Championship
In 2013, Legge left IndyCar to join the DeltaWing program in the United SportsCar Championship. Legge competed in the 2014 and 2015 seasons for DeltaWing.

Legge joined Michael Shank Racing in 2017 to drive an Acura NSX GT3 at the IMSA SportsCar Championship.

In the 2019 24 Hours of Daytona Legge raced as part of an all-female team alongside Simona de Silvestro, Christina Nielsen and Ana Beatriz, having placed second in class the previous year. She was placed 15th in their class after Legge brushed a wall and damaged the car's suspension.

Formula E
In 2014, Legge signed for the Amlin Aguri team to compete in the inaugural season of the Formula E electric open-wheel series. She raced in the first two races before being dropped for Salvador Durán.

European Le Mans Series
In July 2020, while participating in the pre race testing at Paul Ricard ahead of the European Le Mans Series, Legge was injured in a crash suffering a broken wrist and leg. Legge was part of the all-female Richard Mille Racing team along with Sophia Florsch and Tatiana Calderón.

NASCAR
In August 2018, Legge joined JD Motorsports for her NASCAR Xfinity Series debut at Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, driving the No. 15 Chevrolet Camaro. As part of a two-race schedule with the team, she also competed at Road America. Legge later made her oval debut at Richmond Raceway.

In 2023, Legge returned to NASCAR and the Xfinity Series, driving the No. 07 car for SS-Green Light Racing in the road course races at Road America, the Indianapolis road course, Watkins Glen and the Charlotte Roval.

Pikes Peak International Hill Climb
Legge took part in the 2024 Pikes Peak International Hill Climb, driving an Acura Integra Type S DE5 in the Time Attack 1 category. She placed 27th overall, and 5th of 11 in her division.

Personal life
Legge is a member of the Women in Motorsport Commission of the FIA (Federation Internationale de l'Automobile).

She was briefly engaged to German racing driver Peter Terting.

On April 18, 2024, Legge was inducted into the Long Beach Motorsports Walk of Fame, the first woman to earn the honor.

Racing career summary

 * Season still in progress.

Complete American open-wheel racing results
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Atlantic Championship

 * ** Podium (Non-win) indicates 2nd or 3rd place finishes.
 * *** Top 10s (Non-podium) indicates 4th through 10th place finishes.

Champ Car

 * ** Podium (Non-win) indicates 2nd or 3rd place finishes.
 * *** Top 10s (Non-podium) indicates 4th through 10th place finishes.

IndyCar Series

 * ** Podium (Non-win) indicates 2nd or 3rd place finishes.
 * *** Top 10s (Non-podium) indicates 4th through 10th place finishes.

Complete A1 Grand Prix results
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Complete Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters results
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 * † — Retired, but was classified as she completed 90% of the winner's race distance.

Complete Formula E results
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Complete IMSA SportsCar Championship results
(key) (Races in bold indicate pole position) (Races in italics indicate fastest lap) † Points only counted towards the WeatherTech Sprint Cup and not the overall GTD Championship.
 * Season still in progress.

Complete FIA World Endurance Championship results
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NASCAR
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Xfinity Series
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Talk:Marvin Bower

NPOV
Adding the tag to the article, 130.82.165.210 wrote:"This is a very one-sided view providing a hymn-like praise for a rather doubtful man. It was presumably written by a McKinsey consultant. A more balanced view and focus on biographical details should be put in this place."I (MementoVivere) have moved this to the talk page, where it belongs, so that it can be discussed. I neither endorse nor oppose this view.
 * I've never seen an NPOV tag that's been up for eight months before. In any case, I agree that the last paragraph needs to go. The sentence: "He protested being named one by BusinessWeek as one of the top businesspeople of the 20th century on the grounds that he was a professional, not a businessman, could probably stay if it was sourced, but I'm not leaving it as is. Since nobody's made a comment here since the tag's been added, I'm going to delete the offending paragraph and remove the tag without further discussion. --djrobgordon 23:57, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Nothing offensive about the paragraph, so I reinserted it. I also included a number of online references to substantiate it. I haven't run across anyone who said that Marvin (yes, I knew him) was "doubtful." Even people who are critical of McKinsey are respectful of him. --Leifern 23:21, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Going too far
Stumbled across this. Bower's important role in the development of the field of management consulting has been documented in a variety of sources -- a quick Google shows up commentary at Consulting Magazine, the BBC, and various other presumably independent business sites, as well as through McKinsey. So I don't quite understand what NPOV issues prompted a gutting of anything beyond pure biographic details. Can someone point me to some controversy to indicate that the view originally presented prior to Djrobgordon's edits was truly one-sided? Otherwise I propose to (in a few months, to give a chance for someone to respond) bring back the deleted content and merely tone down some of the laudatory adjectives. Martinp 18:34, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Added the sisterlinks template
Currently only Wikiquotes leads to a result. Lacking the expertise to add only one sisterlink, I used the complete template as is done in the Al Core article. Despite the large gap in publicly qvailable material, I think we are going to hear more about Marvin Bower, the professional. His occupation as a leader of consultants to top businesspersons depended on confidentiality. Bernd in Japan 02:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

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Phlegmatized explosive

A phlegmatized explosive is an explosive that has had an agent (a phlegmatizer) added to stabilize or desensitize it. Phlegmatizing usually improves the handling properties of an explosive (e.g. when munitions are filled in factories.)

TNT explosive can itself be used to phlegmatize more sensitive explosives such as RDX (to form Cyclotol), HMX (to form Octol) or PETN (to form Pentolite). Other typical phlegmatizing agents include paraffin wax (5% used in OKFOL and Composition H6), paper or even water (used in water gel explosives). Such agents are nearly always flammable themselves (therefore adding fuel to the blast) or will at least boil off easily. Typically, a small amount of phlegmatizing agent is used e.g. Composition B, which has 1% paraffin wax added, or the Russian RGO hand grenade which contains 90 grams of "A-IX-1" explosive, comprising 96% RDX and 4% paraffin wax by weight. Another example of use is the VS-50 antipersonnel mine, which contains an explosive filling of 43 grams of RDX, again phlegmatized by combining it with 10% paraffin wax by weight.

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Norman Lockhart Smith

Norman Lockhart Smith (Chinese Translated Name: 史美; 29 May 1887 – 27 January 1968) was a British colonial administrator who served as Acting Administrator of Hong Kong on various occasions.

Smith was born in Ryton, County Durham, England. Smith's father was a businessman and politician Hugh Crawford Smith, who was elected M.P. for Tyneside in 1900. Smith's mother was Hannah Ralston Lockhart. Smith was educated in Sedbergh and attended Queen's College, Oxford. He entered the Hong Kong Civil Service in 1910 and was seconded for military service during the First World War.

In Hong Kong, Smith was appointed principal assistant colonial secretary in 1931, director of education in 1933 and secretary for Chinese affairs in 1934. He served as colonial secretary from 1936 to 1941 and acting governor on several occasions.

In 1962, Smith and Sir Robert Kotewall published translations for The Penguin Book of Chinese Verse.

In 1914, Smith married Maud Violet Banister in Hong Kong. He returned to England after retirement and died in Selham, aged 80.

Honours

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Talk:Dysthymia

A-historic and pseudo-atheoretic
Like the DSM itself, this article is a-historic and a-theoretic, which no serious article about mental illness should be. Depriving mental illness of its meaning doubles the problems you are dealing with. All this might be dismissed as POV, but who are you fooling by suggesting there is something as NPOV, especially when it comes to the mind and mental illness?

One concrete thing that bothers me: nowhere is mentioned that the term dysthymic disorder is originally Freud's concept of the neurosis or neurotic depression, as it was still called in DSM-I and DSM-II. The "biologication" of the DSM was going to deprive the psychoanalytically oriented psychiatrists of a label to give the patients they were treating analytically, so the dysthymic disorder was coined, basically as a barter between the new biologists and the back then still powerful psychoanalysts. You don't have to agree with the psychoanalytic viewpoint, but a subsection History that mentions its appearance in the DSM, together with some well-sourced info about it (I'm just gossiping here, I know; but I'm sure there is enough source-material out there to validate my claim) would be welcome. This article seems a good place to start: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14579202 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.58.253.56 (talk) 09:47, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Pharmacological Interventions & Neurophysiology
While a list of medications that are used for the treatment of this disorder is useful on some level, it would be helpful to also provide some empirical evidence of the effectiveness of such interventions. Similarly, the details of why such medications are thought to be helpful to those that suffer from dysthymia could be a nice way to explore some of the neurobiological contributions of the disorder. This might also be helpful under a new section explaining some of the brain chemistry and structures that are involved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MDKLUC (talk • contribs) 15:24, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Major loss in childhood; death of parent
Does anyone else believe this sentence to be out of place and irrelevant (in it's current style)?

"Some people with dysthymia experienced a major loss in childhood, such as death of a parent."

Some people with dyslexia also experienced a major loss in childhood, such as death of a parent. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.164.100 (talk) 12:19, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes I believe that the above is irrelevant. It might as well state that "Some people with dysthymia experienced a cold."Tomandzeke (talk) 04:11, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

St. John's Wort
Please note that while one survey did indeed show a small improvement using Saint John's Wort, several other surveys have shown no benefit at all for the consumption of Saint John's Wort. In fact, some studies show that Saint John's Wort is hazardous to the health of some individuals. --Desertphile 19:51, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I have heard the same thing in regards side effects of St. Johns Wort (including excessive bleeding) - however, since it was word of mouth I am unable to reference it. Is there any place that does have this information? - Darkstar949 16:38, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Request for information
More information on dysthymia would be very helpful. What are the current treatment regimens for this disorder? My understanding is that it is usually treated effectively with anti-depressant medication.

The description offered in "Classical Use of the Term" strikes me as sounding more like paranoia. I'd say that I am dysthymic in some sense relating to the "Classical" definition. Untreated, I often felt hopelessness from perceptions of an uncharitable society. On medication, my view has changed somewhat. I instead view society as a vastly incompetent and disorganized structure, full of selfish people struggling just to get by and provide for their children, me stuck in the middle of it. Treatment with pharmacology (paroxetine) doesn't seem to be entirely effective in my case.

Readable references (review papers maybe?) would be a great help.

Wikipedia really has the power to help transform health care. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.118.80.7 (talk • contribs)

See a useful Q&A about dysthymia (also known as dysthymic disorder) at: http://www.depressionny.com/q&a.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.111.105.71 (talk • contribs)

 * When I was diagnosed with Dysthymia, the psychiatrist said that anti-depressants could help to dull the symptoms, to a degree, but I actually have to have psychotherapy in order to treat it.

 * In the case of Dysthymia, anti-depressants are like taking pain killers for a stab wound. They might (in theory) ease the pain, but it's not going to cure the wound.--Jcvamp 01:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

 * "More information on dysthymia would be very helpful. What are the current treatment regimens for this disorder? My understanding is that it is usually treated effectively with anti-depressant medication."

 * It can be. However, due to the long-term nature of this condition, some doctors recommend cognative therapy in conjunction. --Mal 14:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Any research on cultural causes? If everything around you has gone to hell then not being dysthymic would seem to be abnormal also. Smiling at funerals and bread lines looks really creepy.

Dysthymia is not a form of depression
Regardless of ciculated belief, doctors unofficially consider it part of personality disorders, and not a form of actual depression. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.121.143 (talk • contribs)

 * First, you should sign your comments, and second, I have not heard anywhere, that dysthymia is not a form of depression. Also, considering the fact that the DSM-IV-TR uses the term 'depressed' in the diagnosis criteria for dysthymia, I find your comment to be suspect at best. - Darkstar949 21:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree with the previous writer that I have also NEVER see dysthymia considered as a personality disorder as opposed to depression. My education level is Registered Nurse with Degree.

Notes for whoever revises this next: the link at the bottom which claims to go tot he DSM description goes to a UK-based page, and doesn't seem to say it's using the DSM description. A US-based page such as the following: http://www.psych.org/psych_pract/treatg/pg/Depression2e.book-11.cfm#table8 might be more helpful, either as an addition or instead of the other link, which while helpful might need relabeling. Feyandstrange 03:46, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

'''Huh? What?''' dysthymia is not a form of depression? That unsigned assertion of the first writer is dead wrong. Having been a chronic dysthymic for decades I know with first hand knowledge what it is and how it is treated. While it is indeed in part a form of a personality disorder, it is primarily a form of depression; witch could be considered to be a personality disorder in itself. Bdelisle 05:12, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Although some individual professionals do speculate that the nature of dysthymia better fit an Axis II (personality disorder) diagnosis, it is imortant to remember that the APA officially considers the condition an Axis I, clinical disorder. The role of Wikipedia is to report facts rather than propose new theories.

Dysthymia is DEFINITELY related to depression, but I think what the first person is referencing is the fact that the low-level chronicity of the disease is more related to personality than a major depressive episode and is therefore much more difficult to treat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.8.218.204 (talk) 19:14, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

The US Department of Health's National Institute of Health has stated that dysthymia is a form of depression see: http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/depression/what-are-the-different-forms-of-depression.shtmlTomandzeke (talk) 04:17, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Dysthymia lasts for at least 2 years?
I've been looking at the "cyclothymia" entry which links here. Do you know if there is dysthymia that lasts for only days or hours? Frumpter 05:02, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * One of the requirements for a diagnosis of Dysthymia is that you have had a depressed mood for more than two years, as such there is no form of Dysthymia that lasts for a short period of time. --Darkstar949 14:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

You can have dysthymia for only a few days or hours because it is a symptom. In order to meet criteria for DYSTHYMIC DISORDER you must experience dysthymia more often than not for 2 years. This article is flawed by inappropriate use of semantics and is obviously leading to much confusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.8.218.204 (talk) 19:18, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

While two years is the requirement for adults, the DSM-IV allows for a diagnosis of dysthemia using the criteron one year in the case of a child Tomandzeke (talk) 04:21, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Too much repetition!
It would make sense to shorten this article by quite a bit. It can't be necessary to mention every possible symptom a half dozen times? --Hordaland (talk) 13:35, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've cleaned it up. --Formerly the IP-Address 24.22.227.53 (talk) 03:47, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Language of the article does not sound scientific in this quote
"Remember the risk of leaving depression untreated is far greater than the risk of treatment with an anti-depressant." sounds like an advertisement. I think you could tell the same idea in a more neutral way. (Or support it with statistics generated by independant of medical industrials sources.) Thank you. RuFr (talk) 09:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)RuFr

The National Institute of Health uses the statement "Depression is a common but serious illness. Most who experience depression need treatment to get better." See: http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/depression/what-are-the-different-forms-of-depression.shtmlTomandzeke (talk) 04:25, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

The very same...
... holds for this sentence: "Cognitive behavioral therapy is designed to examine and help correct faulty, self-critical thought patterns and correct the cognitive distortions that persons with mood disorders commonly experience." The wording is extremely tendentious. The first part of it could be easily reformulated as "examine and help reshape self-critical thought patterns", but I don't know how to circumvent speaking of "cognitive distortions" without sounding overly biased in another direction. -- 62.178.119.181 (talk) 18:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Misinterpretation possible
Under the section "Treatments" under the sub-section "Side affects of medications" it says "Some antidepressants are ineffective in patients[citation needed]." I was just worried that this could be interpreted as ALL patients. I suggest it say something like "Some antidepressants are ineffective in some patients." or something like "Sometimes antidepressants are ineffective in patients." That may make the statement more accurate. However, I don't know how often this really occurs, and if it should actually be "Most" or "Many" patients and/or antidepressants. Its all relatives (talk) 11:07, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Association with bipolar false
Previous versions of the symptoms section strongly associated dysthymia with bipolar disorder manic episodes. Dysthymia is not to be confused with Cyclothymia. Persons suffering from dysthymia, though there symptoms fluctuate in intensity, they do not go over to the other side of the spectrum and experience mania. I have made changes to reflected this, please see references and keep this in mind when editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tnedutsaus (talk • contribs) 03:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Depression spectrum link
Should 'depression spectrum' at the top of the article link to Types of psychological depression, rather than another kind of depression? edit: In fact, the three-sentence-long first paragraph links indirectly to major depression three times. LieAfterLie (talk) 06:59, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Dysthymia - is a symptom; dysthymic - is a disorder
Disthymia is not itself a disorder, it is a symptom of Dysthymic Disorder. Someone should appropriately edit this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.8.218.204 (talk) 19:06, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Copyright problems with diagnostic criteria
The American Psychiatric Association has not released its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders into public domain, but claims copyright. The Wikimedia Foundation has received a letter of complaint (2010030910040817, for those with access) about the use of their diagnostic criteria in this and a number of other articles. Currently, this content is blanked pending investigation, which will last approximately one week. Please feel free to provide input at the copyright problems board listing during that time. Individuals with access to the books would be particularly welcome in helping to conduct the investigation. Assistance developing a plan to prevent misuse of the APA's material on Wikipedia projects would also be welcome. Thank you. Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

"Some antidepressants are ineffective in patients"?
I'm not sure what this means. Are they trying to say that for some patients, some antidepressants are ineffective? Surely they don't mean some antidepressants are ineffective for all patients, which begs the question of why such a thing would be called an antidepressant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.50.199.4 (talk) 23:48, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

While it is true that some patients do not respond to some antidepressants and some patients do not respond to any antidepressants, this article is not the place to make that statement.Tomandzeke (talk) 04:31, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes it is; many people require deep psychological treatment irrespective of pharmacological intervention, in order to manage their thought patterns. I would know. 31.220.207.71 (talk) 22:14, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

External link to a video
There is a discussion at Talk:Depression_(mood) about adding video as an external link to some depression-related articles. Your input is welcome. Anthony (talk) 06:19, 19 October 2010 (UTC) I have now inserted the link. Anthony (talk) 12:35, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Possible causes +
nationalencyklopedin lists the following as possible causes for dysthymia: "excessive dependence or early loss of parents, learned helplessness, lack of tenderness or overprotection". (swedish). i think this should be mentioned in the article, preferably with better/english-language sources.

other comments: the introduction of the current revision is a bit repetitive - it seems as if different editors added a new "dysthymia is...", while leaving the previous information untouched. also, the references section has an odd-looking entry at the bottom. k kisses 16:32, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Deleted material
I have removed and temporarily replaced references to Ginseng (uncited, unverified) and a number of other questionable allusions. This whole section needs a rewrite by a clinical specialist, as the vagueness and unsupportable claims which had grown here can be regarded by sufferers as "gospel" if they see such claims written down. Trevor H. (UK) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trevor H. (talk • contribs) 13:18, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

 * "This whole section needs a rewrite by a clinical specialist"

 * Good luck with that. Academic experts have no more influence at WP than the common dolt, and their contributions and corrections are frequently deleted by loud groups of ignorant or agenda'd people.

 * If one of these people is a friend of an admin, the expert is either reprimanded or banned. Admins will always support another admin in serious matters (as opposed to things like removing a temporary block), so that they will themselves be supported when they wish to advance an agenda.

 * Though I am NOT an expert in depression (I do different clinical medicine), I just removed a propaganda section almost certainly written by scientology because of the word "debunk". It was supported by exactly one paper that was published in an online "open" site, not a real medical journal. It contradicts decades of universal medical understanding, FDA-approved package inserts, and everything else but scientology propaganda.

 * But I have to do it not logged in so my real, high-edit, respected at WP username isn't banned, since the cult almost certainly has infiltrated the admin hierarchy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.234.42.150 (talk) 03:47, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Persistent depressive disorder
DSM-5 replaced dysthymic disorder and chronic major depressive disorder by persistent depressive disorder. A new editor made a good-faith edit in which s/he replaced every single mention of dysthymia in this article with Persistent Depressive Disorder - including titles of sources and url's. First I agreed with the change (at least in the text, not in the sources) and I even moved this page to Persistent depressive disorder, but on second thought I reverted everything, including the changes in the text.

Yes, we should start writing about persistent depressive disorder, but we cannot just "blindly" replace the word dysthymia with persistent depressive disorder. I don't have access to DSM-5, but my guess is that the diagnosis criteria are not exactly the same. Our text is based on sources, and these sources have written about dysthymia, not about persistent depressive disorder. We cannot just assume that everything that is written about dysthymia is also valid for persistent depressive disorder. So I think that the change from dysthymia into persistent depressive disorder should be done in a careful way. We'll use the term persistent depressive disorder when our sources use that term, but we should keep the term dysthymia when our sources used that term. Please, tell me what you think! Lova Falk    talk   09:12, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

 * The strange thing is that, when DSM-IV came out, maybe the definition of dysthymia was changed a little bit, but -because it had the same name- no one really cared to distinguish the "new" dysthymia from the "old" dysthymia in this article.
 * From Highlights of Changes from DSM-IV-TR to DSM-5:
 * [...] DSM-5 conceptualizes chronic forms of depression in a somewhat modified way. What was referred to as dysthymia in DSM-IV now falls under the category of persistent depressive disorder, which includes both chronic major depressive disorder and the previous dysthymic disorder. An inability to find scientifically meaningful differences between these two conditions led to their combination with specifiers included to identify different pathways to the diagnosis and to provide continuity with DSM-IV.
 * I have no medical background, but I have the following opinion: The title of the article should be "persistent depressive disorder", and the term dysthymia should be mentioned in the first sentence of the article (maybe together with the above reference as a footnote). For now, the article should assume the equivalence of the two terms, but -as you suggest- I think we should stick to the term that the cited sources used (at least for now and unless a professional in the field has a different opinion). ylloh (talk) 08:45, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

The article reads:

"When and if such people seek out treatment, the treatment may not be very effective if only the symptoms of the major depression are addressed, but not the dysthymic symptoms."

I guess I am not understanding. Treatment of a symptom is in general not effective whether one is dealing with a physical or with a psychological trauma. Depression is a symptom whether it is brief or chronic. I would re-right the above as follows:

"When and if such people seek out treatment, the treatment may not be very effective if only the symptoms of depression are treated, but not the underlying problems that created the dysthymia." Zedshort (talk) 03:25, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Comorbid and diagnostic section contradict each other
This page has a pretty big contradiction. In the comorbidity section cyclothemia is listed as sometimes occurring alongside dysthymia but in the diagnostic section it specifically lists the absense of any cyclothemia as a criteria for diagnosis.

(Also, you may notice I stupidly erased the entire talk page for about 1 minute. Accidentally hit a key on my ipad and poof! Undid it immediately. Apologies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.71.0.16 (talk) 01:11, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Consider removal of the Moclobemide notes if no citation is known
Note to those monitoring the article who know more about primary research on Moclobemide: Please, consider adding the citation in the next paragraph or remove the full sentence. This article are widely used by patients to know more about its illness and not sourced information must be avoided or we may disrupt their treatment. ..This is not the case for newer MAOIs, such as Moclobemide, which is more tolerable than SSRIs, doesn't cause sexual dysfunction and is very well tolerated, without the dietary restrictions needed for older MAOIs and thus can be considered the first line of defense in treatment of dysthymia. --95.16.36.172 (talk) 01:23, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Intro paragraph: sentence that doesn't make sense
This sentence probably made sense when it was written, but now seems out of place:

"Serious state of chronic depression will last at least three years, with this length of recovery, it can stay balanced enough to control it from major depressive disorder."

Does anyone know what this is getting at, and if so could they fix this? Thanks! Myoglobin (talk) 14:23, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

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Suggested addition
Hello, I was thinking of adding in a 2000 Cochrane review. It was updated in 2015, but this was withdrawn. My suggested changes would be to include it as follows (the 2005 meta analysis is already cited), my changes are bolded.

According to a 2000 Cochrane Review and a 2005 meta-analysis, SSRIs and TCAs may be equally effective in treating dysthymia. MAOIs may have a slight advantage over the use of other medication in treating this disorder. However, MAOIs should not necessarily be the first line of defense in the treatment of dysthymia, as they are often less tolerable than their counterparts, such as SSRIs. '''The use of TCAs may lead to more people stopping their medication and more side effects when compared to the other medications available. '''

Thanks, JenOttawa (talk) 03:16, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

 * This would be a good addition. Patriciamoorehead (talk) 23:15, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Parawiki

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The result of the debate was no consensus, so keep. Dmcdevit·t 00:21, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

Parawiki
This article is vanity (or do we make an exception for other wikis?) --R.Koot 02:27, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Delete. --R.Koot 03:17, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable. DarthVader 11:34, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, that was a though one, but seems like a legitimate initiative by Kassel University on a topic that surely is notable.-Poli (talk • contribs) 13:55, 2005 July 21 (UTC)
 * True, but even though it is from an an acedemic institution, it still read as commercial propaganda. It would need to be rewritten at least. --R.Koot 14:29, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Unless it's been changed recently, I don't see how it's propaganda. A small simple article about a small simple project, deserves a mention in here. Themindset 16:48, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Notability is unclear. I don't think we should make an exception after all the forum listings we've deleted... Sasquatch′↔Talk↔Contributions 17:43, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. (A rewrite would be good though.) — Bcat (talk | email) 21:18, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * MERGE into List of wikis 132.205.44.43 15:52, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and an entry to the List of wikis (i.e. not a merge and redirect). -Splash 17:48, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep if rewritten and expanded. Some notability. JamesBurns 02:51, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Wikipedia:Collaboration of the week/Fandom

Fandom

 * Nominated on 02:29, July 21, 2005 (UTC); needs 5 votes by July 28.

Wikipedia has a treasure trove of academic-caliber content in regard to various forms of fandom. Many of our featured articles are the result of contributions of fan folk. It seems resonable that the parent aticle of the history, development and forms of this popular culture phenomenon be fully fleshed out and encyclopedic.

Support:
 * 1) D AVODD  02:29, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Circeus 20:02, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) PKM 02:42, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Litefantastic 23:51, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Outline

 * Nominated on 03:34, 22 July 2005 (UTC); needs 5 votes by July 29.

Posted for cleanup since September 2004. Pretty much everyone should be able to contribute. Would be a valuable resource for student readers and maybe even Wikipedia editors.

Support:
 * 1) Beland 03:34, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) KSchutte 18:37, 24 July 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:TeraGrid

This could be NPOV improved, but I'm not convinced it deserves speedy. It looks noteworthy. I will re-examine at first opportunity if someone else doesn't first. Manning 02:29, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

 * Since they're not selling anything, this isn't advertising. The article needs some work, but it is certainly legit. Removing speedy tag. Denni ☯ 03:09, 2005 July 21 (UTC)

Trying to be neutral...definitely not 'selling' anything. The TeraGrid is funded by public funds, and so the more the public knows about it the better they can 'see their tax dollars at work.' I added some detail about technical architecture and a statement about who can access TeraGrid and how. Cec 16:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Sure, but we also deserve a neutral article with cited sources. There seem to be a fair number of published papers etc. W Nowicki (talk) 22:24, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

TeraGrid -> XSEDE
According to the TeraGrid website "After 10 years of service to the national science and engineering community, the TeraGrid project has come to an end. It is succeeded by a new National Science Foundation program called XSEDE -- the Extreme Science and Engineering Digital Environment. See www.xsede.org for information." See also The Dawn of XSEDE... The article should summarize the recent transition to the new program. --mikeu talk 13:32, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

 * At first I thought it was just a new project name for the same thing (perhaps "grid" is no longer trendy?). But it seems to have moved from Chicago to U of Illinois. So probably anotehr article for the new one? Following the guideline to avoid abbreviations, I vote the new one should be Extreme Science and Engineering Digital Environment. Too bad it reduces to an unpronouncible acronym; TeraGrid was much better sounding at any rate. W Nowicki (talk) 22:24, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

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Jacky Durand

Jacky Durand (born 10 February 1967 in Laval, Mayenne) is a French former professional road bicycle racer. Durand had an attacking style, winning the Tour of Flanders in 1992 after a 217 km breakaway, and three stages in the Tour de France.

Durand turned professional in 1990. He was national road champion in 1993 and 1994 and won Paris–Tours in 1998, the first French winner in 42 years. Durand rode seven Tours de France, finishing last in the 1999 race. In 1995 he was the surprise winner of the prologue, starting before it began raining. He wore the yellow jersey for two days. Durand won the combativity award in the 1998 and 1999 Tour de France; the latter year he also took the Lanterne Rouge. He retired at the end of 2004. He has since worked for Eurosport as a commentator.

Amateur career
Durand was born to a poor farming family in the Mayenne region of northern France. He started racing in the minime class, the very youngest, but never won a race there or in the older cadet category. "It's difficult to win as a kid when you're neither a climber nor a sprinter", he said. "For me, the most beautiful jersey in the world is the French champion's. Yes, when they play the Marseillaise for you after a championship and then you go and show it off for three weeks in the Tour de France, the national flag on your shoulders, it's emotion and pleasure every day." As a senior, however, he won the national amateur team time-trial championship in 1988 with Laurent Bezault, Pascal Lino and Thierry Laurent. He turned professional in 1991.

Lone breaks
Durand became celebrated for long, lone attacks which sometimes succeeded but usually didn't. The French magazine, Vélo, printed a monthly Jackymètre to log the kilometres ridden at the head of races during the course of the season. Durand said: "Fortunately, in cycling, it's not always the best who wins, otherwise we wouldn't win so often."

His riding style was encouraged by his first directeur sportif, Cyrille Guimard. It brought him a seemingly suicidal win in the Tour of Flanders (see below). Guimard told him to attack early in the national championship at Châtellerault in 1993, to try his chance and to spoil those of Laurent Brochard and Luc Leblanc. The writer, Jean-François Quénet, said Guimard told Durand to attack far from the finish "because he didn't want to see Laurent Brochard in blue, white and red and even less did he want a second consecutive title for Luc Leblanc, who was in disgrace in the Castorama team.".

Of the way he rode, Durand said:

 * I'm not a revolutionary of any sort, but on the bike, I've always refused to come out of a mould. It astonishes me that most riders are followers, even sheep. A lot of them, the only people who know they're in the Tour are their directeurs sportifs. I couldn't do the job like that. They finish the Tour without having attacked once, maybe the whole of the season, even the whole of their career. I'd rather finish shattered and last having attacked a hundred times than finish 25th without having tried. Yes, I get ragged about it, but it's always in a friendly way. In the bunch, the guys know that Dudu is as likely to finish a long way behind them as first.

Tour of Flanders
Durand won the Ronde van Vlaanderen, or Tour of Flanders, in 1992, 36 years after the last French winner, Jean Forestier, in 1956. He broke away from the field with Thomas Wegmüller after a quarter of the race, with 217 km still to ride. His success as an outsider, and after such a long lone ride, stayed in the memory of Belgian fans. Years later, Durand was stopped for speeding. The Belgian policeman who came to his car said, "Vous avez gagné le Tour des Flandres en nonante-deux" ("You won the Tour of Flanders in '92") – and let him drive on.

Durand finished his career with Belgian teams. "Winning the Ronde made me a bit of a naturalised Belgian", he said.

Doping and disqualification
Durand took drugs during the Tour de la Côte Picarde in 1996 and was given a one-month probationary suspension. He was disqualified during the Tour de France in 2002 for holding on to a car during the mountainous stage to the Plateau de Beille in the Pyrenees. There had been complaints from riders, including the Czech, Ján Svorada, that he had done the same the previous year.

His name was on the list of doping tests published by the French Senate on 24 July 2013 that were collected during the 1998 Tour de France and found positive for EPO when retested in 2004.

Retirement
Durand retired from racing in 2005 after receiving no team offers. He followed that year's Tour de France as representative of the supermarket chain, Champion. He is now a television commentator for Eurosport.

Private life
Durand stayed loyal to his first club, CC Renazé (53), throughout his career. He lives in Mauritius.

On 25 November 2017, Durand's 80-year-old father, Henri Durand, was reported missing by his wife, Colette, after he went out for his usual bicycle ride and never returned. His body was found in a lake on 2 January 2018, in between Ballots and Saint-Michel-de-la-Roë. An autopsy confirmed he had died from drowning.

Major results

 * 1988
 * 1st Stage 4a (ITT) Circuit Franco-Belge

 * 1990
 * 4th Chrono des Herbiers

 * 1991
 * 1st Grand Prix d'Isbergues

 * 1992
 * 1st Tour of Flanders

 * 1993
 * 1st MaillotFra.PNG Road race, National Road Championships
 * 1st Jersey green.svg Points classification Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré

 * 1994
 * 1st MaillotFra.PNG Road race, National Road Championships
 * 1st Stage 10 Tour de France
 * Tour du Limousin
 * 1st Stages 2 & 4
 * 3rd Polynormande
 * 7th Overall Tour de l'Oise

 * 1995
 * Tour de France
 * 1st Prologue
 * Held Jersey yellow.svg after Prologue & Stage 1
 * Held Jersey green.svg after Prologue
 * 1st Stage 4 Grand Prix du Midi Libre
 * 3rd Overall Tour de l'Oise
 * 8th Cholet-Pays de Loire

 * 1996
 * 2nd Overall Tour du Poitou Charentes
 * 2nd Overall Tour de Normandie
 * 2nd GP de la Ville de Rennes
 * 3rd Tour de Vendée
 * 9th Overall Route du Sud

 * 1997
 * 2nd A Travers le Morbihan
 * 5th Paris–Bourges
 * 5th Chrono des Herbiers

 * 1998
 * 1st Paris–Tours
 * Tour de France
 * 1st Stage 8
 * Jersey red number.svg Combativity award
 * 1st Stage 2 Tour de Luxembourg
 * 2nd Overall Tour de Pologne
 * 1st Stage 7
 * 2nd Châteauroux Classic
 * 3rd Overall Tour du Limousin
 * 4th Chrono des Herbiers
 * 4th Grand Prix des Nations
 * 7th Grand Prix Eddy Merckx (with Marc Streel)

 * 1999
 * 1st Stage 5 Paris–Nice
 * 3rd Châteauroux Classic
 * Vuelta a España
 * Held Jersey gold.svg after Stages 1–2
 * Tour de France
 * Jersey red number.svg Combativity award

 * 2000
 * National Road Championships
 * 2nd Road race
 * 7th Time trial
 * 5th Overall Bayern Rundfahrt

 * 2001
 * 1st Tro-Bro Léon
 * 2nd Overall Circuit Franco-Belge
 * 7th GP de Fourmies
 * 10th Chrono des Herbiers
 * 10th Grand Prix Eddy Merckx (with Bradley McGee)

 * 2002
 * 1st Stage 1 Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré
 * 2nd Overall Tour de Picardie
 * 2nd Paris–Tours
 * 5th Tartu Tänavasóit
 * 5th GP Rudy Dhaenens
 * 7th E.O.S. Tallinn GP

 * 2003
 * 3rd Châteauroux Classic
 * 8th Tartu Tänavasóit
 * 8th E.O.S. Tallinn GP

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sunshine Coast Grammar School

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The result of the debate was no consensus (default keep). Scimitar parley 16:49, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Sunshine Coast Grammar School
Tagged for out-of-process speedy deletion by Lucky 6.9. Keep per Schools/Arguments and don't bite the newbies. Kappa

 * Delete. Substub. Gamaliel 02:42, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, doesn't indicate notability. Gazpacho 02:44, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. No indicia of encyclopedic notability. This vote will change if the article is substantially expanded/improved with verifiable information. -- BD2412 talk 03:15, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, this school may contain the next Prime Minister of Australia
 * Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. --Carnildo 03:56, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, this school may contain the next major WikiVandal. Radiant_ >|< 14:13, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete the article indicates Aus. location, yet links to a completely unrelated page PMSA. And the next Prime Minister of Australia is going to be Canadian. Nostradamus told me. Hamster Sandwich 03:39, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Article is content-free. --Carnildo 03:56, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as totally lacking content. Even the link points a wrong page.  That is why I tagged this as a speedy, not because it's a school and not because I'm "biting newbies."  Kappa, I respectfully submit that you don't let your desire to keep any and all school articles let you overlook the fact that I voted to keep a school article earlier today.  I'd appreciate your retracting that comment. - Lucky 6.9 06:29, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per schoolcruft. Proto t c 09:19, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. As it stands, this article provides very little information but I would vote to keep a decent stub on this school established in 1997. The School's website advises that the PMSA in this case refers to the Presbyterian and Methodist Schools Association established under a 1918 Act of the Queensland Parliament and running a number of schools see . Capitalistroadster 10:30, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. VfD is not Requests for expansion.  -- Visviva 11:46, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia articles shouldn't be placeholders either. Substubs aren't needed to have articles created. We already have "requested articles" for that. - Mgm|(talk) 15:22, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep, needs expansion. -- Lochaber 11:53, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete boring article, no interesting information, not notable. crap. Dunc|☺ 13:00, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge into school district. — RJH 16:35, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete I see no indication of notability. DES 17:01, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * keep please someone must have expanded it even tho this isnt the place to request that Yuckfoo 17:57, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, nn. --Idont Havaname 18:03, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I voted after the expansion of the article. --Idont Havaname 22:06, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, looks good now. Christopher Parham (talk) 18:59, 2005 July 21 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable like all the others we've kept. Early votes are not based on the article's present form. CalJW 21:23, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Do not discount others' votes, regardless of when they take place. --Idont Havaname 22:06, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * It still doesn't look notable or encyclopedic to me, and if other schools of no greater notability have been kept, then i disagree with such decisions. DES 22:24, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep after rewrite. Capitalistroadster 23:46, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep after rewrite, for the purpose of ending school VfD debates. Xoloz 04:24, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep on keeping the schools. —RaD Man (talk) 05:53, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete there's still no info of note in the article, which must be for a very good reason. -Splash 18:02, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable school. Klonimus 02:50, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * What exactly makes it notable? that it is private? That is it is christian? That it has 1100 students? That it was founded in 1997?Or just that it is an actual school? Those seem to be the only claims to notability in the article as it stands. If there are other reasons, do please edit the articel to include them. DES 02:58, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia rarely ever deletes school these days. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 18:41, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep I'm a radical inclusionist in relation to secondary schools, I think those who disagree are acting like King Canute. PatGallacher 23:54, 2005 July 23 (UTC)8
 * Delete - to vex irresponsible inclusionists. Mandel 06:05, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Glad to see Vfd voters taking their responsibilities seriously. Kappa 12:36, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Like "Keep after rewrite, for the purpose of ending school VfD debates." is any different. Your POV is showing. Niteowlneils 16:08, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Ending school debates is a legitimate reason for voting, because these debates consume a great deal of time and clog up Vfd. I fail to see how vexing people is a legitimate reason to remove valid content from wikipedia. Kappa 18:04, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Vexing irresponsible inclusionists obviously is. And yes, obvious POV. Mandel 16:28, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nothing notable in the article.  Vegaswikian 23:51, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Title establishes notability. Grace Note 04:20, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Do I understand you to say that any grammer school is inherently notable? If not, what do you mean? DES 05:36, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Even after re-write, article does NOT establish notability. We don't document every professor and scientist--just those who publish notable papers or produce notable advancements in their field, why would we document every grade school regardless of accomplishment? Niteowlneils 16:06, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Please don't make us the next everything2.com--our credibilty will be shot. Niteowlneils 16:10, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * We only document the top 10-20% scientists, professors, musicicans, actors, etc. why make schools different? This rampant inclusionism will only serve to make the critics who said 'Wikipedia will collapse under it own weight' right. Do you really want to help cause the death of Wikipedia? Niteowlneils 16:17, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * People have a scale of notability, and wikipedia cannot hope to cover everyone of average notability. Schools are not people, they are more equivalent to villages, and the consensus is that every village that has ever existed has a place in wikipedia. Since wikipedia aims for comprehensive geographic coverage, there is no reason not to aim for comprehensive coverage of education in each location, in fact they enhance each other. Wikipedia should worry about its credibility with real users, not random page browsers. Kappa 17:04, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page..