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User talk:Redux/Archive02

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Image source
Thank you for uploading Image:Brazil fourth.jpg. Its copyright status is unclear, so it may have to be deleted. Please leave a note on the image page about the source of the image. Thank you. --Ellmist 05:00, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Brazil on Summer Olympics 2004
Hi, really nice of you to dedicate yourself so much to this article. But would recommend you to read the last news about the Brazilian gold medals. It's been almost a week since the IOC recognized the Brazilians' fifth gold medal (instead of silver) on the equestrian dispute. What the en.wiki shows is the Irish O'Connor with a gold medal, but his horse was caught on drug test. I suggest you to read this article (http://www.ezilon.com/information/article_3059.shtml). I don't intend to "make it look better". We brazilians don't need to. Thank you.
 * I've answered this post in the concerned article's talk page. Redux 21:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reaction
Hey Redux, I would like to know how you feel about the election of Pope Benedict XVI? Zscout370 22:35, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

IfD
To let you know, an image you have uploaded (:Image:Niteroi_Flag.BMP) has been listed at Images_and_media_for_deletion. The reason is that this image was changed from a bitmap to a png file, and this file you have uploaded is not used on any pages. If you have any questions, please go to that page to discuss the issue. Zscout370 23:17, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar of National Merit
I notice that you awarded another one of these to a person. I wish to ask you what nations are you mainly looking after on here. Myself, I deal with a lot of Russian topics, yet I see only a few working on them. I also want to tell you I have a new image of the black ribbon I want to upload, replacing yours. Zscout370 (talk) 19:22, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Black Ribbon
Check out your front page, see what you think of the ribbons. Zscout370 (talk) 02:20, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Female priest advocacy
The language you added to the BXVI article was a strong advocacy of the merits of the current Vatican stance on female priests. If you can provide a quotation to similar effect, that would be helpful; but as phrased, your version was not stating, but advancing, that position.Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 05:28, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)
 * Followup: I read your new revision; it looks nicely explanatory and neutral. The term "remained faithful" in your original was a red flag.  The current language about "official reasoning" seems good.Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 05:33, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)

Party of Five articles
I saw you added a picture to Party of Five a while ago (which needs a source), plus articles on all the characters. Problem is, they are all substubs and since you created them over a year ago, none of them have grown. Are you up for writing more about these characters? Mike H 07:24, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

Brazial olympic images
I noticed you mentioned that they are "free" and that there is no copyright claims. I don't know Brazilian law, but the Berne convention on copyrights states that you don't need to place a copyright symbol on anything to have it be copyright. Thus I think these are copyrighted. Can you please email the siteadmin and confirm that we can in fact use these under a free license? Burgundavia 18:39, May 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * The images may be given away free, but it doesn't really cover the licence that they are under. I suspect copyrightfairuse, but I would still contact the site admin and confirm. Tell them who we are and what the restrictions we have for images. Cheers. Burgundavia 19:17, May 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * We are probably covered. List them as fairuse and noncommercial. Burgundavia 22:15, May 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * That template works for me. Make certain you do the voodoo to list the template in the appropriate category. Burgundavia 06:01, May 3, 2005 (UTC)

A request for translation
I am currently a contributor to the article Burkhard Heim, and I came across a French website which appears to have good biographical information on this theoretical physicist. In your spare time, would it be possible for you to translate the factual contents of depicting Heim and add the material to the article? Your efforts would be greatly appreciated if you could lend a hand! --HappyCamper 23:04, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
 * All done. Redux 01:07, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks a lot! We really appreicate it :) Also, thanks for placing the translation on the talk page; that was a very ingenious idea of yours! HappyCamper 01:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar of National Merit
I redrew the medal, what do you think about the new design? Zscout370 (Sound Off) 19:10, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Olsen Twins
I'm just getting used to the idea of the referring to the discussion pages. I didnt consider it, and I should have. My main reasoning was the two actresses are eventually going to go on seperate paths, as they already have. A single article would not justify good historical content, and would soon grow to be very large. I will refer to discussion pages from now on. Thank you. <> Who 02:38, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi, thanks for responding. I see and understand your points and concerns.  I stated my thoughts on the discussion page, and made the other articles "temp" pages as examples of what they could be, and if the consenus is ever to split them, they will be available.  Thanks for your input and support. <> Who 03:20, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. I must admit to being somewhat ashamed of helping to maintain the Olsen Twins page, but what can you do? Haha. Anyway, you are right. Nobody is adding any content to the page, just messing it up. I'd fully support locking the page for a week to a month, or locking out that IP address range for a while. How do we go about doing that? --Yamla 16:19, 2005 May 31 (UTC)

Image:Camboinhas.jpg
Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 09:45, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

Here We Go Again
Well, this I also did not see coming. I awarded a user, Czalex with the BoNM. Halibutt, who was awarded the same award for his work on Polish article, listed a BoNM variant for Belarus. Not only you do not like to see national variations, but also, the flag that was chosen was the white/red/white flag of Belarus (1991-1995). I am more fond of the current flag (Red, Green with white and red ornament), but I usually get messages saying that most Wikipedians hate the Lukashenko flag. And I know the drawing could get us into an edit war. Please, can we think of something up before I move next week? Zscout370 (Sound Off) 19:52, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Twins
I agree. I only made two of the changes so that I wouldn't be following his ultimatum. I wanted to make it look like we are talking and discussing so he doesn't get alienated and start vandalizing. Since he obviously has acess to many IPs it doesn't seem like a block would work (as you mentioned). The best we can do is protect if he vandalizes and try to talk to him rationally. Hopefully if we fix this conflict he will stop his agressive edits. This link is Broken 02:50, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I like the idea of making a temp page because hopefully there people will be less keen to revert and more keen to talk. I still dislike the idea about protecting the talk page. If the talk moves to the temp page's talk page then we could still have the same problem, just on a new page. I suggest that instead of having two talk pages we redirect the temp's talk to the original so that discussion is concentrated and so that the anon doesn't feel persectued. If he begins to vandalize the talk after we open the temp then protecting the talk page of the original may be an option. We must always have a functioning talk page somewhere or else he will have no where to discuss a compromise. This link is Broken 16:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry for taking so long to respond, my real life obligations are once again kicking in. It seems that Michael Snow unprotected the article because it had been protected for a long time. He wrote, "protected against vandalism over a week ago." as his explanation. Since so little active work happened on the talk page or the temp page this seems like the right things to do. I wouldn't blindly revert the anon's edits however. I looked at some of them and some parts of it has some merit. The real issue i see is the filmography. The anon feels that linking to the imbd is better than having the selected filmography. Since the same links the anon wants to add under filmography are allready at external links it seems unecessary (moving the links up under filmography might quench his desire to blank though). Protecting didn't get us anywhere and nor did the temp page, so try compromising. Are those height figures the anon wants to change accurate? If you really want to bring the issue to the "admin council" try WP:AN/I, but I don't think it is necessary or warranted. I'd try to help you but I am swamped with work due tommorow and my spelling and grammar are allready going. (By the way, you might want to consider opening an RFC to try and settle the issue). This link is Broken 03:15, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It seems that you wish has been granted. This link is Broken 03:59, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Call to Action
Whereas, much good discussion and work has previously occured on the Barnstar and award proposal page,

Whereas, the level of discussion and progress on the abovementioned page has dropped to a record level of none; no constructive commments have been made on existing awards since May 17, 2005,

Whereas, many "Vote or Die!" have been left open, namely two, as a result of this lack of discussion,

Whereas, nine proposals lie untouched by Wikipedian hands,

Whereas, you have previously commented and helped on the abovementioned page,

Therefore, I, who have absolutely no command in ordering this whatsoever, instruct you,, to return to the barnstar commitment and further the creation of Wikipedian awards; vote liberally and spread your constructive comments.

(Signed) Cmd. Bratsche talk 5 pillars of the Barnstarium Army, 03:19, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

village pump exchange
Hi - I just checked and the article is protected. Does this constitute "situation resolved" or are you looking for something else (like, perhaps, a direct apology from User:Michael Snow)? I believe admins are, as a rule, well-intentioned. They are people, which means they make mistakes and also means that they'll tend to get defensive when criticized (and at least some of them are relatively clueless about basic human interaction). I suspect your point has been heard, but if you're looking for something specific you haven't gotten yet can you please spell it out in unambiguous terms at the VP? Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:16, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your generous apology. Notwithstanding my comment to Rick, I will apologize for the lack of communication that contributed to this problem. As you probably weren't aware, the reasons for page (un)protection are recorded in the protection log when a page is (un)protected. The addition/removal of the protection template to/from the page is a separate action. (One of the challenges of wikis is that there are so many places to look for the information you want.)

For a little more information, vandalism protection tends to be short; a week is much longer than usual. I didn't see any reason on the talk page not to unprotect, though I didn't study the discussion carefully because, well, one doesn't expect vandals to try and discuss their vandalism. If the article had been marked with the normal protection template, I probably would have left it alone.

Regarding the village pump discussion: I did have at least some sense, since you didn't initially mention me by name, just as "this other Admin", that perhaps you weren't trying to go after me personally, so I tried not to take it as such. I'm sorry the discussion turned the way it did, and I think people may have reacted negatively to the tone of your post, which in turn affected the tone of their responses. All of the people who responded I know to some extent, and they're all good people. Unfortunately, we do see plenty of people who get belligerent about admin actions when it's really quite clear that they're the ones who are actually in the wrong. Like you, we're generally trying to get things right, there were just a lot of misread signals and misjudgments on this occasion. --Michael Snow 04:09, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Replicators (Star Trek)
Hey, Redux, I apologize things got out of hand. I think your filing some sort of protest is way too harsh, but I'd like to offer a truce. Block me if you think it's necessary, there won't be any hard feelings, but otherwise I promise I'll return to being simply a reader rather than an editor until I have a better understanding of the Wikipedia rules.

Featured Article requirements
Redux, my friend, I wish to let you know of this page: What_is_a_featured_article. This is the requirements on what a Featured article should have. As for sources, the page states this: "Accurate: Supports facts with specifics and external citations (see Verifiability). Includes references, arranged in a ==References== section and enhanced by the appropriate use of inline citations (see Cite sources)." Zscout370 (Sound Off) 05:23, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Help with the Brazil Portal
Hy! Just wanted to let you know that Im available should you need any help with the Brazil Portal. Im from Curitiba, but currently living in Miami, fluent in PT-BR and EN-US. I would like to say Im pretty good at automation tasks, so if you need any text mining or any other automated task, I'd be glad to help. I could possibly contribute with some articles on subjects that are a bit obscure, like "gincanas" (how do you translate "gincana" anyway? :-)). Let me know! Quase 10:35, 29 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Hy Redux... About mining the Wikipedia environment for articles containing "Brazil/Brasil": I believe it is possible to do it. The text mining would be done by WP own search engine, but I could develop a routine that would compile a list of these articles, and extract specific information that would be of interest to us (like "last edited" or "size"). I'll look further into this during the next weekend and I'll let you know of the possibilities. BTW, where are you from in our homeland? Quase 16:04, 29 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Luiz de Orléans e Bragança
hi there, i read your question regarding Dom Luiz.

 * my first question would be, what is he normally referred to in the Brazilian media and in literature? are you familiar with that? i would probably go with the way they refer to him in Brazil normally. maybe you are familiar with this?

 * second question would be, since you are creating this article, how would you like to call it? you can respond on my talk page if you wish, we can also discuss naming of titles and so forth for non-european royalty, since this is quite an issue at the moment. trying to find consensus is hard... i can only help you with regards to how it works for Austrian royalty, if you get back in touch with me, we can discuss about this if you wish. Antares911 29 June 2005 18:25 (UTC)

 * bom dia. i just wrote something on my talk page, maybe i should have done it on yours, but it doesn´t matter. I would concur with the way you had it proposed, with the added "Prince of Brazil"... let me know what you have decided upon. Antares911 1 July 2005 20:46 (UTC)

Niter%C3%B3i_Flag.JPG listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Niter%C3%B3i_Flag.JPG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in its not being deleted. Thank you. —MetsBot 19:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC) Zscout370 (Sound Off) 30 June 2005 04:37 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. This image had been replaced by another in the Niterói article.  It's actually supposed to be deleted.  Redux 30 June 2005 19:48 (UTC)
 * I was asked to keep the png version, but that wasn't used in the article either. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 30 June 2005 19:51 (UTC)
 * Indeed. And I just noticed that the png image is superior to the JPG in terms of quality.  I have replaced it in the Niterói article.  So maybe we could leave the png and list the other jpg for deletion as well?  Need I post in the deletion for the other jpg image?  Redux 30 June 2005 20:00 (UTC)
 * I removed the png file listing from IFD, kept the jpg image listing there. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 30 June 2005 22:31 (UTC)

Brazil series
Glad to get your note... I'll add a references section in the next few days. 172 1 July 2005 07:30 (UTC)

Anon user
I'm not sure what to say. He seems to be rather stubborn and hard to work with, certainly, but that's not really a rules violation. BTW, I think the article on Pedro II's daughter should probably be at Isabella, Princess Imperial of Brazil. john k 3 July 2005 18:50 (UTC)

 * or you could put at her at Princess Isabella of Brazil, right? Antares911 4 July 2005 08:57 (UTC)

I don't see how either of them is any more to blame in that instance. They both lost their tempers and got rude. As to the WIP accusation, it may have been unjustified - I'm not completely certain how long WIP notices are usually up - but it wasn't abusive, I don't think. john k 3 July 2005 20:30 (UTC)

 * hey Redux,

i´m sorry to hear what happened to you with user 217.140.193.123, i totally understand what you are saying. he basically eeked me out of the discussion board on naming conventions, because he was constantly verbally abusing me and I just decided that I really had better things to do than listen to this rambling lunatic. I think he means well and knows some good things. but the way he just completely flips out in the end and starts posting abusive messages was too much for me in the end. it really takes away the fun of Wikipedia sometimes in my opinion... wonder how much more we have to take before administrators actually block him. i´m pretty sure who the real user is (he is registered), but don´t want to get into speculations. probably some geek with too much time on his hands and an obsession with the internet. if you need help with this problem, let me know.

btw how is the naming of your article going, any conclusion yet? obrigado... Antares911 4 July 2005 08:56 (UTC)

Please remove your wip tag after max 3 hours
WIP tag must not abused. It is not a tool to keep others from contributing, or correcting. You have good possibilities to contribute more - in equal footing with others. The guidelines instruct: "The tag is used to alert people that you are in the process of making a larger edit (within 30 - 180 minutes). The article remains open to editing, but courteous users should leave it alone until you're done. If you do use such a "lock" please be responsive to any inquiries about the lock.". You have indicated that you want keep the tag in place for as long as days: "This is not about wanting to control the article. This is about understanding and patience. Really, the tag has been there for less than a day." 217.140.193.123 4 July 2005 18:12 (UTC)
 * You know what? Go crazy, that's nothing new to you.  Do not give me ultimatums though, you'll get nowhere with it, make no mistake.  And really, don't bother to post here again, I have no interest in working with you in this or any other article.  You need a serious reality check dude, I really can't see why you are so eager to edit that article, especially since you only even know of it because of my post in the project page talk page.  No need to explain though, I really don't care.  Redux 4 July 2005 18:21 (UTC)

 * maybe 217.140.193.123 needs to go outside once in a while and get some fresh air, instead of constantly sitting in front of the computer *lol* Antares911 4 July 2005 19:28 (UTC)

 * ok, added my comments to that comment page. i´m just seeing, god lord how many languages do you speak, that´s amazing. we might put up some new rules for debate soon, only registered users, feel free to give me your comments obviously... Antares911 6 July 2005 00:31 (UTC)

 * hi redux, no i´m sorry i don´t know if there is a rule or a discussion board about what to do in such a case. i´ve already asked two administrators, and no response. it´s really frustrating and i don´t understand why there is no more clearer rule in such a case? or maybe i haven´t read it yet... is he leaving you alone at the moment? cheers... Antares911 7 July 2005 08:38 (UTC)

 * hi redux, how´s it going? what´s the situation with the anon user, did you find a place where to place complaints? i couldn´t believe it, but the user actually made a racist slur on a talk page, so maybe we can do something about that? Antares911 9 July 2005 11:51 (UTC) i forgot to mention, we are having a discussion on naming, maybe you want to add your comments? or we can also draw up rules for naming pretenders, etc...

 * What? are you serious, an administrator deleted it? is this some kind of a conspiracy? i can´t believe this.. this is outrageous. why is it ok for someone to run around and constantly annoy and abuse (and now in my eyes even be a biased racist) and if someone honest wants to do something about it, they´re like whatever... this is just incredible.

you´re right though, i´m kinda bidding my time as well. you could still tell me though what you think about the proposals. hm... if you want, you can send it to my email, just click on it... 9 July 2005 15:39 (UTC) hey redux what´s up? could you tell me, which administrator deleted the page that you set up to complain about the anon user? btw are you ever planning on becoming an administrator yourself? what´s the procedure? you´d have my vote..

hey, nice to hear from you again. it´s comforting to know that there are not only psychos on this page. well honestly, i would say forget the idiot. i can´t believe he actually posted a complaint page against us, god if only we would start such a thing, it would never end i think... but you´re right. it´s like an annoying mosquito that just bugs around. at the moment he´s also known as "Arrigo" I think.. but what i don´t understand (and maybe you can help me) normal registered users with a username can be seen in blue. unregistered users are normally in red (when you look at the history page for example, or signatures). then how is it possible, that a registered user has his name appear in red? meaning he can´t be found on the page, but has a user name...? how does that work? and how can this "red" user be able to move pages? i´m not very familiar with the workings and rules of Wikipedia unfortunately... thanks. Antares911 23:57, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about the delay
I haven't forgotten about the Empire of Brazil article. Sorry about the delay. I expect to start work on the Brazil series shortly. 172

BoNM rule
I did not even see that in there earlier. If so, I would have removed it myself. Thanks. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 22:18, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks for awarding me the Barnstar of National Merit. --Ragib 22:27, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Procedure
Hi. I'd like to request your assistance with this: I've come across this image, which has just recently been uploaded to the website. The uploader listed it as "fair use", but this is clearly not the case (this is from one of them "for men" magazines, maybe Maxim). I changed the tag to "unverified", since I don't know exactly where the image came from, and removed it from the article where it had been posted. This seems like a clear case for deletion though. But I wasn't sure where to list the image: Images and media for deletion didn't seem quite right, and I couldn't quite settle for Copyright problems. I've never listed an image for deletion, so I'm bit lost in this one. Can I get some help, if you have the time? Thanks, Redux 03:58, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * If you think it's a copyright problem, then I'm pretty certain it's Copyright problems. I've seen images listed there before, sometimes a batch of them at once. As for whether it's fair use: it is awfully high resolution for any fair use we might claim; other than that, though, it's all a matter of context, for example it would arguably be fair use (even at this high resolution) in an article about the magazine it came from, or the photographer who took it. But I'm no lawyer. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:07, July 16, 2005 (UTC)

Location, location (from Bratsche's talk page)
Hi. I noticed that, in the Barnstars on Wikipedia page, you moved the BoNM to the subheader of the category barnstars. We had indeed discussed using the BoNM as the award for Geography, and I do agree that the BoNM can (and already is) be used for this. But I'm worried about having it listed only as the category award for geography. The scope of the award is centered in a given nation (any nation), and, hypothetically speaking, one can (and people have) get it for work in articles that have nothing to do with geography or, more interestingly, even for articles pertaining to the other categories, as long as it's been a reasonable number of articles and they all are pertaining to one specific country. As a compromise, we could place the BoNM at the very bottom of the "general Barnstars" topic (currently, this would be right beneath the entry for the "Resilient Barnstar"), which is right on top of the header for the category barnstars, and there we list, in the first line, which we'd actually break in two, something like this: "Nation-related work & Category: Geography". We can discuss different headings, but this would be the general idea. How about it? In conclusion, I'd just like to enphasize that all this is regarding just the positioning of the BoNM entry in the project page. I'm not questioning the use of the award for Geography-related work. I decided to contact you in your talk page because you were the one who proposed and carried out the actual move. We could make this discussion more public, although, for this reason, it may not be necessary. Regards, Redux 02:24, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Then, we can always add Category:Countries to it. However, do not make the template too big, that is why we list everything on the page of the image we use for the BoNM. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 04:21, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I like that idea, though as more Barnstars are being minted we have to guarantee that it stays at the bottom of 'General Barnstars'. Sango  123  13:30, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Redux 17:47, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

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The Last Horror Film

The Last Horror Film (also released as Fanatic) is a 1982 American horror comedy film produced by Judd Hamilton directed by David Winters and starring Joe Spinell and Caroline Munro. Its plot follows a delusional middle-aged New York City taxi driver who, fixated on the idea of being a film director, visits the Cannes Film Festival where he begins stalking an actress he is obsessed with.

The film was shot on location at the Cannes Film Festival in France without permits, and reunited actors Spinell and Munro, who had previously starred together in Maniac (1980).

Upon its initial release, it won and was nominated in several film festivals dedicated to genre films. It was considered a partially lost film due to the fact that portions of its gore were excised from the original 35 mm film negatives, and largely only available on some home video editions. In 2023, a complete print of the original cut was found at the La Cinémathèque Française, and utilized by Severin Films for a 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray release.

Plot
Vinny Durand, a New York City taxi driver who lives with his mother, dreams of directing a film starring horror film actress Jana Bates. He decides to attend the Cannes Film Festival, where she has been nominated for Best Actress her latest horror film Scream, as he hopes to meet her and get her to star in his film to kickstart his directing career.

Accompanying Jana at Cannes is her manager and ex-husband Bret Bates, as well as her boyfriend Alan Cunningham, who has produced the film. Durand tries to meet Jana, but is turned away, only to find out agented scripts are accepted. Shortly afterwards, Jana and Cunningham attend a press conference, where she receives a note saying, "You've made your last horror film. Goodbye." She goes to see Bret at his hotel room after and finds his decapitated corpse. When she later returns with the police, the body is gone.

In the meantime, Durand stalks Jana, covertly filming her with his camera. Marty Bernstein, Jana's agent, runs into Durand and shrugs him off. Bernstein meets with the Scream 's director Stanley Kline, and his personal assistant Susan Archer, who reveal that all of them have received the same notes that Jana received. When the police are informed, they believe that Bret's disappearance is a publicity stunt. The next day, Bernstein gets a letter signed from Bret to meet him in a theater screening room. Bernstein is murdered by a cloaked figure upon arrival.

While Jana attends further press conferences, Durand visits a nightclub where he attacks a stripper after envisioning her as Jana. Later, he watches a horror film by Stanley Kline, which he finds disgusting. Later, when Durand runs into Kline outside, he yells at him telling him he should not make nasty films. The following day, the newscast announces the discovery of Bret's body. Archer tells Kline that she wants to leave, but he convinces her to stay. That evening, both of them are killed by an assailant who films their deaths.

Later that night, while Jana is showering in her hotel room, Durand sneaks in with a bottle of champagne, hoping to charm her into starring in his film. A terrified Jana orders him to leave, causing Durand to break the champagne bottle in anger and threaten her with the jagged glass. A bellboy arrives and interrupts the encounter, after which Jana flees through the hotel lobby, which guests mistake for another publicity stunt. Durand, caught off guard, stops and smiles for the onlookers, allowing Jana to escape in a car with Cunningham.

The next day, Cunningham drives Jana to a remote château in the French countryside where his friend Jonathan is staying. Durand follows them. That evening, he sneaks into the château, to be chased away by Jana's bodyguards who shoot pistols in the dark to accidentally kill Jonathan instead without realizing it.

Cunningham and Jana return to Cannes for the awards ceremony and when left alone she is subdued by Durand who takes her back to the castle to film a scene where Durand plays Dracula and Jana the victim. Suddenly, Bret shows up with another camera and a pistol, and congratulates Durand on setting everything up for him. Bret, revealed to be the killer and the mastermind behind this, says that on the day when Durand phoned him about his film proposal, he realized that he was the perfect fall guy to set up to get even with Jana for leaving him. Durand throws his cape over Bret and runs away.

Bret grabs Jana and follows Durand outside. Bret taunts him to come out. Durand turns on a motorcycle's headlights, blinding Bret, and as Jana steps aside, He grabs a chainsaw and murders Bret with it. Cunningham arrives with the police, to see Durand standing before Bret's dead body and screams.

The image falls back to reveal that the whole story is a film that Vinny filmed at the Cannes Film Festival with Jana Bates, and he is now back in New York showing it to his mother in a screening room.

Release and partially lost film to restoration
The completed film was first shown on October 9, 1982 at the Sitges Film Festival in Barcelona, Spain. The film went on to win various awards in various film festivals.

The film was released theatrically in the United States, with Fanatic as its title, in July 1983. The film didn't have a wide theatrical and was released on VHS.

After its initial release much the film's gore was excised from the original negative, appearing mainly on VHS prints that chose to retain it. This made it a partially lost film.

In May 2009, Troma Entertainment released it on DVD, patching back these scenes from a separate VHS source. For their 2015 Blu-ray release, heavy damage was noticed on the source they used.

Rue Morgue magazine expressed interested in the director's original vision and gave themselves the mission to restore it. They went on to ask various archivists and collectors to help with the research. Eventually, author Guillaume Le Disez located a 35 mm print of the original cut at La Cinémathèque Française in excellent condition.

In 2023, distributor Severin Films used this print for a 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray release with the film fully restored with rediscovered film footage.

Critical response
Anton Bitel of Little White Lies found it witty and mesmerizing. He noted the avant-garde of the film saying the "genre film shot on location during the actual 1981 Cannes festival, The Last Horror Film exploits the realities of cinema’s biggest dream market, while weaving into this world of cutthroat deals the kind of slasher plot that can only happen in the movies. As such, this is horror of a decidedly self-reflexive stamp, made two decades before Brian De Palma's Femme Fatale would again use Cannes as the backdrop to all manner of postmodern play in the world of genre. It was also made over a decade and a half before Wes Craven's Scream took the crown for the supposedly innovative nature of its meta approach to horror – and, whether by coincidence or not, the film-within-a-film which has just won Jana her award is also called Scream."

Cheryl Eddy of Gizmodo liked the acting by Spinell and his mother. She wrote: "Spinell consumes the scenery with his usual flair — except in the handful of scenes he shares with his character’s mother, played by Spinell’s actual mother, who gives him some serious competition for the spotlight."

Morgan Elektra of Dread Central enjoyed it and liked the acting by its two leads especially Spinell. Of his performance she said "Spinell’s performance is really the lynchpin of the whole film" and "I can’t think of a single frame where he wasn’t completely selling the role". Her overall opinion is that it "is an entertaining flick that most horror fans will enjoy whether it be for the nostalgia."

Chris Coffel of Bloody Disgusting praised it and said "I really love this movie. I think it’s a ton of fun and shows off a bit more range from Spinell than we typically see. It’s also a nice slasher/mystery with a fairly surprising ending. Not sure it all completely makes sense, but the film does enough job selling it so I’m willing to buy. And then of course there is the guerilla style filmmaking that went into this. The crew just went to Cannes and shot, permits be damned! So the movie is good. I’m a fan."

Upon its 2023 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray release, John Squires also of Bloody Disgusting also liked it and in his article he wrote that it is “an awesome movie and Spinell’s best film.”

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Anthony Ashley-Cooper, 9th Earl of Shaftesbury

Anthony Ashley-Cooper, 9th Earl of Shaftesbury (31 August 1869 – 25 March 1961), was the son of the 8th Earl of Shaftesbury and Lady Harriet Augusta Anna Seymourina Chichester (1836 – 14 April 1898), the daughter of the 3rd Marquess of Donegall and Lady Harriet Anne Butler.

Military career
Lord Shaftesbury was commissioned a second lieutenant in the 10th Hussars in 1890, promoted to lieutenant in 1891, and to captain in 1898. From 1895-1899 he served as an Aide-de-camp to the Governor of Victoria. He retired from the regular army in 1899, but continued as a captain of the reserve in the Dorset Imperial Yeomanry. On 12 March 1902 he was promoted to lieutenant-colonel commanding the North of Ireland Imperial Yeomanry. On 1 January 1913 he was promoted colonel in the Territorial Force and appointed to command the 1st South Western Mounted Brigade; he was granted the temporary rank of brigadier-general on the outbreak of war in 1914. Shaftesbury served through the First World War from 1914 to 1918, and relinquished his appointment as a brigade commander on 1 March 1919, when he was granted the honorary rank of brigadier-general.

Political, civic and court offices
Lord Shaftesbury was Lord Lieutenant of Belfast from 1904 to 1911, Lord Lieutenant of Antrim from 1911 to 1916, and Lord Lieutenant of Dorset from 1916 to 1952. He was Lord Mayor of Belfast 1907, and Chancellor of Queen's University, Belfast 1909–1923.

At the Court, Lord Shaftesbury served as Chamberlain to Mary of Teck as Princess of Wales 1901–1910 and as Lord Chamberlain to her as Queen of the United Kingdom 1910–1922. That year he was appointed Lord Steward of the Household, serving until 1936.

Lord Shaftesbury served as President of the Salisbury Diocesan Guild of Ringers from 1919-1960, the year before his death.

Family life
On 15 July 1899, the 9th Earl of Shaftesbury married Lady Constance Sibell Grosvenor (22 August 1875 – 8 July 1957), the daughter of Victor Alexander Grosvenor, styled Earl Grosvenor (son and heir of Hugh Lupus Grosvenor, 1st Duke of Westminster) and his wife, Lady Sibell Mary Lumley, daughter of Richard George Lumley, 9th Earl of Scarbrough. Lady Constance was invested as a Dame of Justice of Order of St. John of Jerusalem (DJStJ) and served as a Lady and Extra Lady of the Bedchamber to Queen Mary.

The 9th Earl of Shaftesbury and his wife, Lady Constance had five children:

 * Major Anthony Ashley-Cooper, Lord Ashley (4 October 1900 – 8 March 1947).
 * Lady Mary Sibell Ashley-Cooper (3 October 1902 – 2 August 1936) was married to Napier Sturt, 3rd Baron Alington of Crichel.
 * Lady Dorothea Louise Ashley-Cooper (29 April 1907 – 1987) was married to Anthony Head, 1st Viscount Head.
 * Lady Lettice Mildred Ashley-Cooper (12 February 1911 – 1990) Flight Officer W.A.A.F ; European War 1939–45 (despatches).
 * Major Anthony John Percy Hugh Michael Ashley-Cooper (5 October 1915 – 1986) was married to Julian Petherick, by whom he had four daughters. He was regarded by many to be one of the greatest salmon anglers of the 20th century and wrote four books on the subject.

Lord Ashley was heir apparent to the earldom, scheduled to inherit upon the death of his father. However, at age 46, Ashley died unexpectedly of heart disease before succession. At that time, his son, Anthony Ashley-Cooper, became heir apparent, inheriting the earldom in 1961 upon the death of his grandfather.

Bryanston School
In 1928, the 9th Earl provided a financial grant to establish a co-educational independent boarding school in Blandford, north Dorset, England, near the village of Bryanston. The 9th Earl served the school as the first Chairman of the Governors.

Bryanston School was founded by a young schoolmaster from Australia named J.G. Jeffreys. He used his confidence and enthusiasm to gain financial support for the school during a period of severe economic instability. With financial backing from the earl, he paid £35,000 for the Bryanston House and its 450 acre of immediate grounds.

The school occupies a palatial country house designed and built in 1889–1894 by Richard Norman Shaw and modelled on the chateau at Menars in the Loire valley. Shaw designed the house for Viscount Portman to replace an earlier one. The building and estate was the biggest in Dorset and the last of the grand stately homes to be built in England. The home had been occupied by the Portman family for 30 years at the time of its sale, however, death duties made it impossible for the 4th Lord Portman to hold on to his family estate. There were just seven teachers and 23 boys of various ages in the first term. Jeffreys was a natural innovator but one who respected good traditions, reflected in his choice of the school motto, Et Nova Et Vetera. His was the first English school to adopt the Dalton Plan, its combination of the new and the old being of particular appeal. The system was flexible enough to offer a combination of lessons in the classroom and time for assignment work in subject rooms, which gave the students freedom to decide which pieces of academic work to focus their attention on. Students were required to keep a daily record on a chart showing their use of working and leisure time, meeting with their tutors on a weekly basis to ensure effective monitoring of their progress.

Bryanston is a member of the Headmasters' and Headmistresses' Conference and the Eton Group. It has a reputation as a liberal and artistic school. The principles of the Dalton Plan are still in place today and remain central to the school's success.

Belfast Castle
The 9th Earl of Shaftesbury presented Belfast Castle to the City of Belfast in 1934. In 1978, Belfast City Council began a major refurbishment over a period of ten years at a cost of over two million pounds. The architect was the Hewitt and Haslam Partnership. The building officially re-opened to the public on 11 November 1988.

Honours

 * 1901: Provincial Grand Master of the Provincial Gand Lodge of Antrim (1901–1921)
 * 1902: Provincial Grand Master of Freemasons in Dorset
 * 1906: Knight of the Royal Victorian Order (KCVO)
 * 1911: Knight of the Order of St Patrick (KP) (At his death, he was the last living non-royal member of the Order of St. Patrick.)
 * 1919: Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE)
 * 1920: Younger Brother of the Trinity House
 * 1922: Privy Counsellor
 * 1924: Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order (GCVO)

Death and burial
The 9th Earl of Shaftesbury died in 1961 aged 91. He was buried in the Parish Church at Wimborne St Giles near the family estate. The earl's titles passed to his 22-year-old grandson, Anthony Ashley-Cooper.

The 9th Earl had carefully arranged financial matters on the Shaftesbury Estate so that his heirs would avoid death duties. When the earl died in 1961, his grandson inherited the family's 17th-century home and large estate in Dorset, several other properties and a collection of art, antiques, and other valuables. By the 1990s the 10th Earl's wealth was said to be in the "low millions".


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This page links to the disambiguation page groundnut, but I'm not sure which sense is intended. Can you help? Thanks. — Pekinensis 20:15, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Improving the intro
Intro of this article does not seen to be neutral. It should be improved. Ganesh Dhamodkar (Talk) 07:56, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Geographic location template
Hi I've reverted the Geographic Location template to the one I originally wrote and added in the Madhya Pradesh district, but before you revert it next time please provide a source stating why you're making these assertions on Buldhana district's adjacent districts. My source is The Ministry of Home Affairs. Thanks in advance, and next time please explain in your edit summary why you're reverting my edits. PhnomPencil (talk) 14:54, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh! i am sorry! i saw the old MS map where Hingoli wasnt created. This version of urs is right. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 15:17, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh no problem, then. Thanks for caring about the article. Have a good night, PhnomPencil (talk) 16:46, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Bar chart
I've prepared the above. Unfortunately some of the labels overlap and I'm not sure how to fix this. I'll look into it.  Nik Naks  talk - gallery 17:11, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

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I am removing the below section as it doesn't seem to be a required part of the current Buldhana page. A brief history of its establishment is already given in prose.

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Historical events

1437: Nasir Khan Faruqi, ruler of Khandesh, invaded Berar. A battle was fought at Rohinkhed with Khalif Hasan Basri, governor of Daulatabad, for Aladdin Ahmad Shah II Bahmani. Khan-i-Jahan, governor of Berar, was besieged in Narnala Fort. Nasir Khan lost the battle. 1590: The second battle at Rohinkhed took place between Burhan Nizam Shah and Jamal Kahn Mahdavi of Ahmednagar. 1600s: Veer Mata Jijabai, the mother of Chhatrapati Shivaji (founder of the Maratha Empire) was born at Sindkhed Raja, at the Palace of Lakhuji Jadhav. 1724: The battle of Sakharkheda–Fathkhelda: Asaf Jah defeated Mubariz Khan, governor of Malwa representing the Mughal Empire, and becomes Nizam of Hyderabad.[1] 1761: Malkapur pays money to Raghunathrao Peshwa for exception. [clarification needed] 1729: Gates erected in Malkapur town during the rule of Mali Khan. 1769: Madhavrao I Peshwa with the minister of Nizam encamped at Mehkar to punish Janoji Bhonsle. [clarification needed] 1790: Dyers flee to Nandura from Pimpalgaon Raja due to depredations of Mahadaji Sindhia and Pendharis. 1803: Raghuji Bhonsle and Daulat Rao Sindhia meet the British envoy near Malkapur. 1841: Mongal Rao plants flags of Maratha Bhonsla on the walls of Jamod. 1863: Great Indian Peninsula Railway line opened passing through Malkapur & Shegaon. 1878: Gajanan Maharaj was found on a street in Shegaon. 1881: Municipal council established in Shegaon. 1906: Municipal council established in Malkapur. 1930: Municipal council established in Chikhli. 1931: Municipal council established in Nandura

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Coney Island Polar Bear Club

The Coney Island Polar Bear Club is the oldest winter bathing organization in the United States, whose members regularly take polar bear plunges in the winters. The club was founded by famed health advocate Bernarr McFadden in 1903.

The club began using the event to raise funds for Special Olympics starting in 2005, and Camp Sunshine in 2007. In 2018, the club decided to support local groups and charities and began partnering with the Alliance for Coney Island to raise funds for local nonprofit organizations.

Members swim in the Atlantic Ocean at Coney Island, New York, United States every Sunday from November through April. Every New Year's Day, the Club is joined by participants from around the country, who partake in an annual swim. The 2005 event had 300 participants and 6000 onlookers. The Chief Polar Bear blows a conch shell to gather the swimmers before they run into the water.

The club was mentioned in popular culture. It is mentioned on the season three episode of Seinfeld, "The Pez Dispenser". In the episode Kramer informs Jerry that he has joined the club, claiming it to be 'invigorating'. It was also publicized on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, in a taped segment by Dan Bakkedahl about the effects of global warming on the club in faux-nature documentary style.

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The Heather Blazing

The Heather Blazing is the 1992 novel by Irish writer Colm Tóibín. It was the writer's second novel and allowed him to become a full-time fiction writer. The intensity of the prose and the emotional tension under the colder eye with which the events are seen, provided him with a faithful readership both at home and abroad. It won the 1993 Encore Award for a second novel. The novel takes its title from a line from the song "Boolavogue", specifically "a rebel hand set the heather blazing".

Plot summary
The novel tells the story of Eamon Redmond, a judge in the Irish High Court of the late twentieth century Ireland. It reconstructs his relationships with his wife and children through his life and the memories of a childhood marked by the death of his father. The County Wexford landscape and the death of the father are the narrative material, which Colm Tóibín would revisit again in The Blackwater Lightship. The novel also plots the development of Fianna Fáil from the austere republicanism and style of Éamon de Valera to the corruption of the Charles Haughey era.

Reviews
Nicola Upson wrote in the Continuum Encyclopedia of British Literature, that the story of Eamon Redmond is "absorbing" and that it is a "beautiful portrayal of the little moments of everyday life as it is in its dealings with the bigger questions of sexual awakening, loss, and grief". She compared the novel to James Joyces Dubliners "in its treatment of childhood, adolescence, and maturity". In his review for Magill's Book Reviews, Mark McCloskey opines that Tóibín's "minimalist style complements Eamon Redmond's minimalist character". He argues that this style of writing though "tends to make every gesture and event in the novel equal — that is, somewhat flat".

Mark Harman wrote in the Los Angeles Times, that the author "tells this moving tale in such a deceptively straightforward manner that it would be easy to mistake the novel for a good read and nothing more than that ... yet the more one thinks about this clear-headed yet intense book, the stronger the impression it leaves". In her review for The Village Voice, Laurie Muchnick says it is a "beautifully written book, the prose fluid and never flashy, the structure perfectly suited to the story", and that she was surprised at its "subtle humor, and its awareness of small ironies". John Lanchester of The Guardian said that this novel has "peculiar resemblances" to John McGaherns book Amongst Women.

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Macedonians vs. Macedonian Slavs
Dear Jmabel, at the moment there is a poll taking place on the Macedonian Slavs talk page to which you could make a significant contribution. Thank you in advance for your participation. Ivica83 13:27, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Discussion shifting
There is also a discussion about American West going on at WikiProject U.S. Regions/General Also your the lead compromiser on this issue but you haven't posted in a while. Is every thing allright? -JCarriker 16:11, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Take a look at WikiProject U.S. regions/Maps and tell me what you think, all regions are not yet there are mistakes in two (I do get tired). -JCarriker 21:09, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * I've responded to you at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. regions/Maps. -JCarriker 21:04, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Also corrected mistakes with the maps and uploaded new regions. I took alternative when portraying the Great Plains (the article needs to be disambiged from Plains states) and Pacific Northwest with partial shading. Take a look. -JCarriker 22:46, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Homosexual fag
Hey, just b/c these other limp dicked faggots worship your ass, doesn't mean you can fuck around with other people's shit. Mind your own fucking business, bastard.Flgook 18:33, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * FWIW, if anyone is interested, the only page that this user and I seem both to have touched is Abercrombie and Fitch, where I reduced the size of a massive image he added at the top of the article. If the above is not an unwarranted personal attack, I don't know what is. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:46, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Apology, Apology
I'm real sorry about the note that was put on your talk page. My roommate was bored today, and he decided to get on my computer and stir up trouble. I hope that my apology will be accepted as we continue to move on for the Wiki cause. Flgook 22:23, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

African American Literature
Since you started the article on African-American literature, I thought you might like to check out the large numbers of additions I have added. I'd also appreciate any comments or feedback you have on the article. Thanks for starting it. --Alabamaboy 02:15, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi Jmabel, when I saw that WP:POST stated that African American literature was now a FA, I simply couldn't believe that it was the same redlink that nobody wanted to touch on CSB, and had failed at both CSB COTW and wikiwide COTW, before you "bit the bullet". After looking at the article, I actually had to go to the history to make sure that it was one and same.  Thanks from me as well for getting the ball rolling. Cheers,   BanyanTree 21:18, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Ni-be-ni-me-ni-cucurigu
On page Ni-be-ni-me-ni-cucurigu - Lulla Rosenfeld quite possibly does not need a link, I added it while tidying the cat capitalisation; glancing through the article, it appeared to me that the bulk of it seems to rely on her opinion. However, not being too up on Jewish film and theatre, I am not sure of her prominence or authority, I am quite happy to concede to its removal -- Nigosh 08:35, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

left-right politics
Well, I've commented at some length, only to get sidetracked into lengthy arguments with Nobs01 about whether the idea of a left-right spectrum should be described as a "theory" (I say no, because it doesn't make any sense to call it a theory). Nobs is, over all, a strange one, and, I think, pretty clearly a POV pusher. Any aid would be welcome. john k 03:06, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

HBCU outreach
I've put out some feelers and I've gotten the response that the administration would take it more seriously if they had something to specifically to refer them to than a simple invitation. Can you create a page I can refer them to, perhaps another wikiproject or a subpage of systemic bias? Your essay could be housed there as well as the participants particulary interested in outreach, Deeceevoice for instance. ''P.S. Have you seen the laters U.S. regions maps? You haven't posted on the talk page since they were redone so I have no way of knowing. (Also can we redirect American West, to Quagmire, pretty please. Not serious, well mostly not serious.)'' -JCarriker 17:43, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

 * Page is started at HBCU recruitment. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:18, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

 * I think we need a particpants list (real names instead of nicks, since we're doing an outreach), so I've added one. When welcoming people who have been invited to the community it is important to make sure they'll be directed to the people most interested in helping them. Also I noticed politcal bias was not listed, there is a dominant politcal view own wikipedia as well, that factors in the same unitentional way that the others do. I don't think an active outreach based on politcal ideas would be a good idea, as I feel neither side is entirely trustworthy or fair minded towards the other, but I think mentioning it may be as noteworthy as the others. It's also a possibility we could eventually be called on it, and in that case it would be a good idea to have already acknowldeged it and point out we're working on it, i.e. Pat Robertson, rather than let some demagogue hurt Wikipedia's reputation by running with the accusation. I'm also going to inform Deeceevoice about the page since it would seem to be right up her alley. -JCarriker 17:44, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

New to Wiki
I think you must have made the original comment on the Philosophy Projects Page The Philosophically Illiterate. It is provoking much useful interest and comment. I have just added a comment but insufficiently indented it (maybe I'll go back and try) but I didn't quite understand the system till I'd already saved my few lines. I wanted to put them under the overall heading which raises a major issue but I couldn't see who had initiated it. Was it you? I am sure I could check by looking on your 'contributions' page but it all gets a bit complicated when you're only just starting. Jeffrey Newman 07:42, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Greater Hungary
I've made an attempt at NPOVing Greater Hungary which has an NPOV. Given that Transylvania is the main conflict point I'd appreciate it if you would review my changes, your knowledge of the the Romanian POV would be helpful. Thanks. -JCarriker 21:23, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)

Animated GIF
Hi Jmabel. No, I don't need that animated text by my signature. I was unaware that someone with ADD or dyslexia would have a hard time reading comments that have graphic emoticons, so that's why I removed the emoticon from my text. By the way, I liked the recent edits you did with the new section we started in the White supremacy article. Regards, --Gramaic 02:20, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hungarian versions of place names in articles pertaining to Romania
Hi! There is a bit of a controversy evolving about the Hungarian versions of place names in articles pertaining to Romania. Criztu has started to delete the Hungarian (and in one case, German) variants of place names from the following articles, claiming that they were irrelevant: (Harghita, Covasna_(county), Cluj). I feel this move is unjustified. I would appreciate if you could have a look at the problem and give your opinion on Talk:Harghita.--Tamas 28 June 2005 15:15 (UTC)

Same old subjects
Just some brief comments/inqueries/requests:
 * 1. Do you think we should implement the new maps? If so when? (I know you probably don't want to do, so don't worry its not a labor request. -JCarriker June 29, 2005 03:01 (UTC)
 * 2. I only have a ride on Tuesdays and Thursdays. (I am not yet able to drive due to the agist, sexist, and classist discrimination of auto insurance.) I'll go to Wiley when I can, I haven't forgotten.
 * 3. Our little quagmire is still unsolved. Whether it be a redirect, rewrite, or disambig it needs to be done— even the demographics section is now at Western United States. I don't think anything I do will be accepted. I will offer my help with a rewrite, if that is what you decide, as not helping with such a project would obviously be unfair to you. Whatever you decide please do it soon, this is really stressing me out, especially having my hands tied from acting on it myself and not being able to move own with the project.

Thanks. Also see the politics article I wrote recently, if you have time, its, well— different. -JCarriker June 29, 2005 03:01 (UTC)
 * Responses to responses:
 * 1. Not really the presumption I made, though I think you under estimate your contribution. I did make two other presumptions, that was that you weren't interested in reviewing the old maps and that I had already made my intetion in creating the maps known. My primary aim with the maps is to have cohesion across maps. The current collection is a grab bag of style, some good other terrible. There are also errors in some, Oklahoma is excluded from the Southwest map for example. The new maps standardize the style, replace the ancient Always, Sometimes, Rarely categories, (it was here before I was I just ran with it), and correct the errors.
 * 3. The harm is we have a policy against duplicate articles, and I think encouraging its violation though inaction would be a mistake. While it is possible that it was a misinterpreation of policy, given its— as you said snide tone— and that edit history proves the article was created wiht the knowledged that the other existed, I am inclined to believe it was created as an alternative to the other article. In other words if "Billy Bob" doesn't like WikiProject Ethnic groups' standards at Hungarian people, but doesn't have the consensus to enforce his view— why not create an alternative at Magyar people with his view? After all the precendent at American West has already been established. That's the only legitimate reason and the only real reason it should be done. There is nothing wrong with duplicating information in articles so long as its about a different subject, I have no problem with rewriting the article to be about a more specific subject, I've even offered to help do it.
 * Also, I'm not getting the You have new messages notice anymore. Is it just me or do you have that problem to? -JCarriker June 29, 2005 08:32 (UTC)
 * I'd be more comfortable with the status quo, if this notice could be added at the top of the article directing new edits to the proper article. I've also responded to your posts on the politcs talk page. Thanks. -JCarriker June 30, 2005 04:46 (UTC)
 * I see your online now, what do you think of the notice compromise. -JCarriker July 1, 2005 06:16 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your help, though obviously I am disappointed. I understand this is not where your heart lies, however this is where my heart lies. As such I can't let it go— as long as it exists in its current form it is a challege to everything we are trying to achieve with the regions project. Indeed, in all likelyhood that was what it was meant to be. My mistakes were waiting so long to challege it and wording my first post on the talk page too strongly. This issue must be settled, anything we do with the project is irrelevant if someone can just create an alternate version of a page they don't like. As such I'm asking theresaknott to do something about the page once and for all. Again, I appreciate your assistance. Thanks. -JCarriker July 1, 2005 06:57 (UTC)
 * Theresa knott has advised me to file and rfc at User talk:Theresa knott. Unfortunately, without at least a peripherial participation by you, that would be pointless, and if I file without notifying you, you'd likley be dragged in anyway. As such I am requesting your opinion before I do. file it. My intention is to file an Rfc over the article, not indivduals. If you won't participate, I won't file, and move forward by making American West into a disambig. Thanks. -JCarriker July 3, 2005 09:56 (UTC)
 * I'm going to make one last effort to avoid an Rfc by making an appeal to CPret on his own talk page. The only thing I think, we disagree on is the "waste of time issue", with you thinking it is one, and me thinking it isn't. Am I right? We don't have to mimic each other, but I think we should have an understanding of each others positions before moving forward, so if there's something else please let me know so I can respond. I'll also write the Rfc in my sandbox and run it by you before filing. Maybe, hopefully, this can all be avoided. -JCarriker July 4, 2005 03:26 (UTC)
 * I just checked CPret's contributions he hasn't contributed anything since June 21. Do you think filing an Rfc, in which the primary representative of a viewpoint probably won't particpate in would be fair? If not, do you think I should go ahead with the disambig? If so I can do the same thing for it, I offered to do for the Rfc. Whatever, your opinion I'd appreciate it. - JCarriker July 5, 2005 17:33 (UTC)
 * I have put together my proposed Rfc at User:JCarriker/sandbox, for clarification, you have permission (as it's in my sandbox) to edit the proposed Rfc directly. Also, I was somewhat suprised about the Rfc procedure, I was under the impression that an rfc would be on a subpage rather than just listed on the Rfc page. If I precede with listing it there, will I be going about this properly? -JCarriker July 6, 2005 09:30 (UTC)

Libertatis
Thanks for pointing that out -- I fixed it now. - Nat Krause 29 June 2005 07:15 (UTC)

Talk:Left-Right politics
This is becoming intolerable. It has descended into the perennial "were the Nazis socialists?" question...sigh...I'm not sure any longer how to deal with that page. john k 30 June 2005 22:38 (UTC)

Corruption
I found the answer to questions you posed on the corruption index page. Dosai 4 July 2005 15:38 (UTC)

Akwid move
Hiya, I moved that page for you after I saw it on requested moves. I'm not an admin so I guess the new mediawiki code was just having teething problems. :) Talrias (t | e | c) 4 July 2005 16:49 (UTC)

Sort, Luck & Lottery shop entry
Hi, the addition I made to the 'Sort' entry about the lotery shop in Catalunya was NOT intended to be any kind of self-promotion but was an example of something culturally interesting about the town (i.e. that the town is called "LUCK" and many believe believe it to be so). I am English, and was fortunate enough to teach English there back in 1995, so I thought I was adding something of interest to the wiki. I apologise if the content was innapropriate, that was my first wiki entry. Please feel free to drop the lottery reference :-D RJ.
 * Glad to know it wasn't spam. I'll try to come up with a more appropriate way to put the info in there. -- Jmabel | Talk July 5, 2005 15:15 (UTC)

Eastern Moldova
I appreaciate your "bluntness" but I have to ask you to pay attention to what I am actually saying. I said that it is undeniable that sometimes "eastern Moldova" can be used for " Bessarabia" or if you pay close attention to the article and historical facts, to what is actually central Bessarabia. This is because "southern Bessarabia" or Bugeac was actually the real Bessarabia, under Ottoman rule from 1484 to 1812. That Bassarabia or Bugeac only belonged to a Romanian state (Moldova actually) from 1392-1484 and was part of Greater Romania from 1918-1940. After 1484 though, it was annexed by the Turks and was part of the Ozi province, but informally known as Bessarabia( after Basarab I, a Valachian prince). This is the first time when the name Bessarabia is actually used and as I explained before, it only reffered to the Turkish sanjaks in what is modern day Bugeac. Moldova never controlled that territory aside from the period between 1392-1484. Turkey did. The Russians wanted to annex all land east of the Prut river and claimed that Bessarabia included in actuality not just the Bugeac but also Moldovan land east of that river.

Therefore, aside from the Bugeac, all land in the former Russian province of Bessarabia is nothing else but the eastern part of the principality of Moldova or eastern Moldova. That part of eastern moldova is also what corresponds roughly to the territory of the modern day Republic of Moldova. This is what I said was undeniable, not the politically correct part. In fact, if it makes you feel better I will erase that immediately.

I hope now, I finally clarified once and for all, the whole thing to you. If you still have questions or clarifications, I really think that something visual should help and that you should consult "Istoria Romanilor" by Giurascu( since you seem to understand a little Romanian and since that book has a very nice map of the region) or maybe you should take a look at these very nice maps which might clarify the whole thing:

http://www.euratlas.com/time2.htm#1300

If you look at the full maps for the years 1500,1600,1700,1800,1900,2000. you will see what I am talking about.

Domnu Goie 7 July 2005 01:27 (UTC)

White supremacy
I briefly visited the article and made some fairly superficial changes -- mostly copy editing kinds of things -- through only a portion of the piece. (The pathologies of white people bore me.) But the article is deeply flawed. I made some notes on the discussion page. Further, most black people I know wouldn't refer to white supremacy in the past tense; it still is a dominant ideology. Peace. deeceevoice 7 July 2005 08:55 (UTC)

ack
I am away from home for a few weeks and only sporadically checking in. A quick thanks trying to keep Pablo Neruda more or less intact, ie. For the life of me, I can't understand why that material was deleted and by whom. It seems like useful information, whatever one's political persuasion. -- Viajero | Talk 7 July 2005 16:17 (UTC)

People's war
Hello there!. I was wondering if you could help me to achieve a NPOV in these article. The main problem is a discussion about the size of Shining Path support in Peru. I have claimed that Sendero Luminoso's support is still on debate for peruvian society, but that it was eroded (if they have any) because of their tactics. Unfortunately, the only answer that I recieve (partly because of the influence of another wikipedist) was that they didn't care about what I have expresed (since they accused me of Fujimori's Propaganda), accused me of revisionist history and totally disregard my contribution. I wish that you could take a look at my contribution, and if possible, to support what I have to said. Thanks ! and any help could be welcomed. Messhermit 7 July 2005 23:02 (UTC)
 * Joe, for the record, that is a complete mischaracterization of my (and Viajero's) comments, a product of an argument through inneundo and otherwise untopical polemics. I encourage you to examine the contributions and discussion for yourself, especially the help in the fight. El_C 8 July 2005 00:02 (UTC)
 * It seems that the article is now much nore shaped and in a much more accurate and NPOV position. Thanks for the help :). Messhermit 8 July 2005 01:47 (UTC)
 * I withdraw from the article since Sam Spade, contrary to his apology, decided to follow me around so as to agitate me, personally. Please keep an eye on the article, and his edits, Joe. Thanks. El_C 8 July 2005 02:16 (UTC)

Brown v Board
I would appriciate a review and comment on the current status of Brown. I _think_ I've done enough damage for now (making the article 3x longer has to count.)

I am considering doing a similar if smaller job on Gebhart v. Belton, which is a MUCH harder case to characterize. If you have thoughts on it I would appriciate it. Rick Boatright 8 July 2005 03:24 (UTC)

Qatar
Thanks for your answer at WP:RD about Qatar. I am grateful. PedanticallySpeaking July 8, 2005 20:45 (UTC)

survey about providing hungarian names for counties of Romania in Transylvania
hi Jmabel, pls look at the text of the Survey about providing the names of the counties of the Kingdom of Hungary as alternates for the names of the counties of Romania on Talk:Harghita. if this matter if of interest to you, offcourse -- Criztu 9 July 2005 15:39 (UTC)

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