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Talk:Pokémon episodes removed from rotation

UK Bans
Just thought I'd add Aside from Electric solider Every episode has been shown in the UK(various Dub edits not counting) and continued to be shown in reruns —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.9.218 (talk) 15:52, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

The episodes not made part of the season packs containing the American dub are not made available to international distributors
This should be obvious enough from the wording itself, not to mention far more logical than the notion that every distributor in the world, other than those that don't redub the American dub, screened these episodes and individually chose not to air them. The episodes were not "banned worldwide", they were dropped from distribution by the sub-distributors themselves. So tell me, how does one source this? Shouldn't Pokemon.com's statement that "these are the episodes that make up each season" be enough to point out that these weren't part of the officially distributed season sets? 134.129.203.26 (talk) 23:44, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You know, on reviewing this I have to agree that the statement does not need a citation as it is covered by the one prior. I removed it because pocketmonsters.net is not a reliable source. Restoring. MelicansMatkin (talk) 23:52, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Beauty and the Beach
So why was this one actuly banned? The article just gives a general plot of the episode itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elcaballooscuro (talk • contribs) 22:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Because of the Bikini James issue...  Zappa  O  Mati   18:31, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

"Tentacool and Tentacruel" now on Cartoon Network Video
Should "Tentacool and Tentacruel" be counted as a banned episode now that it's on Cartoon Network Video and will probably air on Cartoon Network again soon? 76.92.186.38 (talk) 16:36, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

"Banned"?
Banned is a very strong word. Is it correct to use it in place of "withdrawn" or something similar given that no citations have been provided (as far as I could tell) for its use? 82.26.198.27 (talk) 00:20, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

New ban
I heard Rumors of a new episode that was banned in America because it features mild nudity. can anyone confirm? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.111.153.83 (talk) 05:06, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You heard wrongly. No such episode exists. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 06:37, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Miniryu no Densetsu shown in Australia
I remember watching an episode where Ash catches 30 Tauros in the Safari zone in Australia, on Cheese TV when I was young. So I believed this was dubbed and shown. 203.214.6.3 (talk) 11:35, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon Scent-Sation banned in New Zealand?
I live in New Zealand, and I used to tape the anime off the air (having since bought the episodes legally) and I have Scent-Sation on tape from when it aired. My tape comes from the second run, so it was aired at least twice. Has it been banned since then? I'm not sure the first season (eps 1-57) episodes were aired more than twice on New Zealand channels. Can anyone confirm this? --Megatronacepticon (talk) 10:58, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion for article rename
I would like to bring this article in-line with other "list" articles, how about renaming this to List of censored Pokémon episodes? Kencaesi (talk) 21:42, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Two problems. 1. This isn't a list. 2. They aren't "censored". They were episodes that never aired again. Loads of episodes had censored material. We can't list all of them. Would you like to provide what "other list articles" you are talking about? Blake (Talk·Edits) 21:57, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

This is from the anime, so... that section saying it doesn't exist, ever, at all in the anime might have an issue
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:James_Weepinbell.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.231.35.109 (talk) 08:46, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Legend of Dratini
A recent edit included this comment in hidden text: "Please don't remove this, because this is actually true". In order to demonstrate something is true, references are needed to reliable sources. Verifiability is a core Wikipedia requirement. I've left the basic claim in place with a "citation needed" tag for now, but it's liable to be removed again if we can't find sources to back it up. Gusworld (talk) 22:35, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I removed it, it's complete nonsense. The scene in question is a mock police interrogation where the character is dressed up as a stereotypical police detective, and while he's wearing a fake mustache, it's a pencil-style one rather than a "Hitler-style" one.

The entire article really needs some serious clean-up. Not a single one of the claims about why these episodes were skipped by 4Kids are sourced, and they all seem to be pure, if logical, fan speculation. 85.167.10.13 (talk) 03:33, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Necessary remakes
They should remake some of these episodes that lack what got them banned in the first place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.186.22.193 (talk) 20:46, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Mandarin Miss Match
As shown in the reference link, this episode would seem to have to be included in this article, since it was removed from the DVD box set. SnivyFan1995 (talk) 15:36, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

EP394
Does anyone know why episode 394 never aired except in one country? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Primal Groudon (talk • contribs) 15:01, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

South Korean Airings
I think those banned in South Korea should be added, along with the last ten or so episode of the Gold and Silver arc too, due to time constraints. They don't seem to have been dubbed in Korean over the years either. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 16:55, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

 * Well those episodes should be added on Korean Wikipedia since they didn't air in Korean Language. Ajeeb Prani (talk) 17:58, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

"Jynx with Blackface"
Jynx isn't referred to this way outside of 2 episodes and it doesn't seem like appropriate wording for an encyclopedia, especially given the capitalization. lukini (talk | contribs) 16:41, 11 September 2023 (UTC)


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Talk:Katharina von Bora

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Consult: F.G. Hofmann (Leipzig, 1845); A. Stein, a pseudonym for H. Nietschmann,  (Halle, 1879);  A. Thoma (Berlin, 1900).

See: Kroken, Katharina von Bora (Leipzig, 1906).

70.17.166.121 16:37, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

 * There is more about the childrens' deaths in the Martin Luther article. 205.144.62.214 18:21, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Move
Shouldn't this article be called Katharina Luther as that was her name when she died? Emperor001 17:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

 * If no one responds to this comment in a few days, I will move this document to Katharina Luther. Emperor001 23:07, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

No, nobody knows a "Katharina Luther", but every pupil in Saxony and also in most parts of Germany knows "Katharina von Bora". There ist no school called "Katharina-Luther-Schule", but a lot of "Katharina-von-Bora-Schule" or other houses called according "Katharina von Bora". Please correct to Katharina von Bora! www.von-bora.de —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.19.90.191 (talk) 17:51, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

The two English encyclopedias I have found with separate articles on her both refer to her as Katharina von Bora (1905 NIE and 1920 Americana). The English page seems to be unique in using the name Katharina Luther. There seems to be no basis for doing this that I can see. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 22:57, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

What's going on in the image?
The second image shows a long ribbon tied around her mouth, and hanging down at her side. Is that a sort of scarf? It looks quite odd. If anyone knows what that is and why it's there, perhaps it could be explained briefly in the caption. --Reuben (talk) 01:10, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Still no explanation of this cryptic image. Can anyone explain it, please? Awien (talk) 17:33, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Doubtful paragraph on Luther rueing his decision to stop being a monk

 * Towards the end of their life together, they were walking one evening in their garden. Katharina pointed out the beautiful evening sky. "See the lovely evening stars!" she exclaimed. "How they shine on us!" "Yes, they shine and twinkle gloriously," responded Martin, "But not for us". Then he added softly, "We abandoned our vows". "Shall we, then, return to our convents?" asked Katharina. Luther responded only, "It is too late".

This text seems very doubtful and I suggest it is from some (old or new) piece of anti-Lutheran propaganda. In the "Table Talk", the record of many of his conversations during his last years, Luther is displayed as often denouncing "monkery" as the worst of abominations and his own time in the convent as the most reprehensible time of his life. -- 85.177.62.204 (talk) 01:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

No controversy?
Shouldn't some criticism of her from the point of view of the Catholic Church be mentioned? Steve Dufour (talk) 19:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

New evidence of her origin
Only recently, a new scientific essay "About the history of the von Bora family and some manors in the Saxon districts Borna and Pegau" (original title: "Zur Geschichte der Familie v. Bora und einiger Güter in den sächsischen Ämtern Borna und Pegau") was published in the "Genealogie" journal (2010, *4*, pp. 289-307). This paper follows up other essays, dealing with the same range of topics, which were published in 2005 and 2006.

In the latest essay, the author initially introduces the geographic and political environment during Reformation times of Katharina von Bora's presumed birthplace. Then he presents a legal record from the year 1531 which gives evidence of a law suit between the brothers von Bora about an inherited property in Kieritzsch, district of Borna. Before, there had not been taken any notice of this record. Yet, it presents some new clues about Katharina's paternal relatives.

In the second part, the author suggests an alternative view to the traditional ideas regarding the Reformer's wife's maternal kinship. These considerations take the numerous contradictions from previous papers in account that were pointed out by the latest scientific literature. Especially the legend about a stepmother is rejected. In conclusion, it is shown that the family background from Katharina von Bora's mother has to be regarded as rather unresearched.

The latest newspaper magazine with a recently updated list of family lines can be obtained under:

http://www.genealogie-zeitschriften.de/53065796cc0d4f519/53065799910dc3207/5306579e540abf80d.html

Older essays may be viewed under:

http://www.von-bora.de/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.150.210.205 (talk) 16:38, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

No "daughter of an impoverished nobleman"
The seemingly ineradicable legend of impoverishment is nothing but a relict from the anti-Lutheran propaganda. It was already questioned by serious authors in 1752 (Walch, C.W.F., Halle 1752, "The true history of the blessed Lady Catharina von Bora", p. 20: "The first question is, whether Catharina von Bora's parents were poor or wealthy? The question as such is irrelevant. Therefore, we neither want to confirm nor negate it. However, we cannot approve the faulty evidence of Engelhard [an earlier author]." - original title: "Wahrhaftige Geschichte der seligen Frau Catharina von Bora"; original citation: "Die erste Frage ist, ob die Eltern der Catharina von Bora arm oder vermögend gewesen? Sie ist an sich gleichgültig. Wir wollen sie daher weder bejahen noch verneinen, aber den fehlerhaften Beweis des Engelhard [eines früheren Autoren] können wir nicht anerkennen."). In 1843 it was announced that the alleged poverty of her family "cannot be proven by any credible information" (Beste, W., Halle 1843, "The history of Catharina von Bora" - original title: "Die Geschichte Catharina's von Bora"; p. 13; there, also the French original source of the poverty-statement can be found.)

In the newly rediscovered record from 1531, it can be read that the father of the von Bora siblings made "a hundred gulden" available to his brother, before the year 1521 ("Genealogie", 2010, p. 304). Unfortunately, the father is not mentioned by name. Nonetheless, this donation sustains the doubts about a poverty-legend. The legend - as touching as it might appear - just like many other ones about historic events during the Reformation period, should not be spread any further. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.150.210.205 (talk) 16:41, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

More than one wife comment
I did a thorough search of the citation for this quote and could not find anything of substance.

Source: http://www.ccel.org/ccel/luther/tabletalk.pdf

Lusanders (talk) 06:11, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Dreadful English
Could someone *please* rewrite this to put it in proper English? There are sections so badly written that I don't even know what the article is trying to say. 24.244.29.169 (talk) 18:58, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Fact check requested
See this diff.

The use of "himself", prior to my change, was ungrammatical, so I fixed it, giving it the meaning I assume it was intended to have. But I suppose it's also at least possible that the "or" was an interloper, and the sentence should have read that she would be willing to marry only Luther himself.

So if anyone can check this, and find out whether she was willing to marry von Amsdorf, that would be great. (I see there's no inline cite, by the way, so I don't know exactly where you'd start looking, but presumably there are people here who do know.) --Trovatore (talk) 19:59, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

this article needs more references
There are several paragraphs that do not have any citations at all. Specifically, in the following section: Thanks. — howcheng  {chat} 00:22, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Life as a nun (2 paras)
 * Marriage to Luther (1 para)
 * After Luther's death (4 paras)
 * Commemoration

Landed gentry is a UK specific term
The source used does not use the term "landed gentry". The lower ranks in the German nobility are called Niederer Adel i.e. petty nobility.Doctoral historian (talk) 20:12, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Paul von Hindenburg & Other Descendents?
Paul von Hindenburg's biography does not say this in pages 1-19 as is given in the reference, nor could I find a reliable source for the claim that the Counts zu Eulenburg, or the Princes zu Eulenburg and Hertefeld descend from Luther and Von Bora. The other reference, Church Schism & Corruption by Achim Maseko is very unprofessionally composed and lacks a bibliography, and its author's credentials can't be verified. Especially strange is that the book's only printer is a paid on-demand publisher.

I have found this claim on various .com and .net websites but these websites have been shown to often get their information FROM Wikipedia. If this information can't be traced to a more reliable source, then it should be removed. Isz Chepewéssin (talk) 03:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

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Billy Powell

William Norris Powell (June 3, 1952 – January 28, 2009) was an American musician and the keyboardist of southern rock band Lynyrd Skynyrd from 1972 until his death in 2009.

Early life
Powell was born in Corpus Christi, Texas. He grew up in a military family and spent several of his childhood years in Italy, where his father was stationed with the U.S. Navy. After his father died of cancer in 1960, the Powells returned to the United States to settle in Jacksonville, Florida. In elementary school, Powell met Leon Wilkeson, who became a lifelong friend and the bassist for Lynyrd Skynyrd. Powell took an interest in piano and he began taking piano lessons from a local teacher named Madalyn Brown, who claimed that Billy did not need a teacher as he was a natural and picked things up well on his own. When it was time for high school, his mother enrolled Billy and his brother Ricky at Sanford Naval Academy in Sanford, Florida. Powell returned to Jacksonville, where he enrolled at Bishop Kenny High School. After graduation in 1970, he enrolled at and briefly attended a community college, majoring in music theory.

Lynyrd Skynyrd
Around 1970, Powell found work as a roadie for Lynyrd Skynyrd and remained a member of the crew for two years, during which the band secured a support role for the band Mountain. In 1972, Skynyrd played a show at the Bolles School prom. During a break at that event, Powell sat down at a piano and played a song. When the band realized their roadie's ability, he was offered the position of keyboardist.

In 1973, Lynyrd Skynyrd was signed to MCA Records and received national exposure following the release of their first album, (pronounced 'lĕh-'nérd 'skin-'nérd). The band's popularity soared in 1974 with their follow-up album, Second Helping, which featured their highest-charting single, "Sweet Home Alabama". The band enjoyed increasing popularity over the next three years, culminating in the 1977 release of Street Survivors. Three days after the release of Street Survivors, Skynyrd's chartered Convair CV-240 crashed into a forest near McComb, Mississippi. The crash took the lives of singer Ronnie Van Zant, guitarist Steve Gaines, his sister and backing vocalist Cassie Gaines, assistant road manager Dean Kilpatrick, and both pilots. The remainder of the band suffered mild to severe injuries. Powell suffered severe facial lacerations, almost losing his nose, but was otherwise relatively uninjured. He was the first to be released from the hospital, and the only member able to attend the funerals of his fallen bandmates.

During the time between the plane crash and the Lynyrd Skynyrd reunion in 1987, Powell joined the Christian rock band Vision in 1984. With Vision he recorded three albums (Mountain in The Sky, Vision, and Streetfighter), and toured extensively. His keyboard performances were spotlighted in Vision concerts. During the concerts, Powell spoke about his newfound Christianity; messages that were also delivered via two bonus tracks included on the album Mountain in the Sky. Powell also worked with 38 Special during this time.

Powell rejoined Lynyrd Skynyrd in 1987 for a tribute tour, and remained with the band until his death. At the time of his death, he and guitarist Gary Rossington were the only members from the classic lineup who were active in the band.

Death
On January 28, 2009, Powell died at the age of 56 at his home in Orange Park, Florida. It was during a break from Skynyrd's touring schedule that Powell suffered a fatal heart attack. His death inspired countless tributes, in and out of the Southern rock community and extending across the country-music world, where he had many friends and admirers. The music he had recorded with Vision was played exclusively at a private memorial service, and Kid Rock sang a tribute. Many Southern Rock musicians were in attendance, including his Skynyrd and Vision bandmates, their families, Hank Williams Jr. and others. He was survived by his wife Ellen, sons Brandon and Joel, daughters Layla, Ashley, and Maggie, brother Rick, and sister Donna. The song "Gifted Hands" was later written and recorded by Lynyrd Skynyrd as a tribute to Powell.

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Jirō Nitta

Jirō Nitta (新田 次郎) is the pen name of popular Japanese historical novelist Hiroto Fujiwara (藤原 寛人). He was born in an area that is now part of the city of Suwa, Nagano Prefecture, Japan.

Career
His uncle was the famed meteorologist Sakuhei Fujiwara and his son is mathematician Masahiko Fujiwara. After retiring from the Japan Meteorological Agency, he began writing professionally. Originally a meteorologist, he wrote mainly on themes connected with mountains.

At least three of his documentary novels have been translated into English. Death March on Mount Hakkōda (八甲田山死の彷徨) is based on an incident in 1902 in the Hakkōda Mountains. Alaskan Tale (アラスカ物語) is about the adventures of Frank Yasuda.

Phantom Immigrants (密航船水安丸) deals with the Meiji era entrepreneur, Jinzaburo Oikawa (及川 甚三郎) from northern Miyagi prefecture, who went to Canada in 1896 to export salmon roe back to Japan. In 1906, he chartered the schooner Suianmaru to smuggle 82 fellow villagers out of Japan and into Canada. They were apprehended and arrested on Vancouver Island without passports but allowed to stay in Canada thanks to negotiations by Saburo Yoshie (吉江 三郎) (aka Fred Yoshy) of the Japanese consulate in Vancouver.

His 1973 two-volume novel Kokou no Hito (孤高の人) has been adapted into a manga series of the same title in which he is credited as writer.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Car accident secrets

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Deleted as adspam. GarrettTalk 14:40, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Car accident secrets
Delete. Commercial for book for sale. A link to the external site has been repeatedly added by anon user(s) to car accident (see history) and repeatedly deleted by wikipedians for being commercial; this is apparently their new tactic. (Interestingly, Car Accident Secrets already deleted Jul 6 for copyvio even though user who created it holds copyright and said so and gave permission (for his own work to be posted)). Elf | Talk 16:40, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: The book does not have a particular author. It was written by a group. User:Bobdavis4 no more has the right to release the material that was posted on the original Car Accident Secrets page than any other user on Wikipedia. --Durin 22:33, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete this advertisment. Thryduulf 16:47, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable advertisement. Gblaz 19:24, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above. --jonasaurus 21:43, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete for above reasons. --Calair 00:05, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Spam. Wiki-Hell. -- BD2412 talk 02:20, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete for above reasons. L-Bit 08:15, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Speedy Delete by Denelson83 as recreation of previously deleted content. --GraemeL (talk) 23:43, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Car accident secrets
Previously deleted adspam, recreated post deletion The page is back. As far as I can tell it's the same content previously discussed, a non-notable self-published book with links to spin-off merchandise. - Just zis Guy, you know? 09:37, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Speedy Delete to make a point, and a personal warning to the user. The Minister of War 09:46, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
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Talk:John W. Campbell

L. Ron Hubbard
John W Campbell did publish L Ron Hubbard and later was sorry that he did. He did not like what Hubbard did with Dianetics and did NOT like Hubbard (he told me this personally while having lunch in New York). Wikipedia does a real disservice to John and his reputation. I am sure there is more documentation to John's position on Hubbard\Scientology if you search the Internet. ''Moved from body of article, placed by User:DGOQ

 * This needs to be verifiable to be placed in the article. ~ WCFrancis 16:40, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I have removed the sentence "It was during this time that Campbell also became interested in Dianetics, publishing L. Ron Hubbard's first articles and also writing editorials in support of Dianetics." from the article for the time being until more verifiable information can be located. ~ WCFrancis 16:43, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Searching on "john W. Campbell" "L. Ron Hubbard" on Google gets a lot of hits that are either scientology sites, scientology debunking sites, and Wikipedia mirrors/reprints.

From a paper by Marco Frenschkowski (University of Mainz, Germany):

"A not to be neglected source is The John W. Campbell Letters, vol. I and II, ed. by Perry A. Chapdelaine, Sr., Tony Chapdelaine and George Hay, Franklin, TN 1985-1993. John W. Campbell (1910-1971) of course was the most important SF editor in the "golden age" of SF (as the time between 1938 and approximately 1950 is often called). He is probably the one individual who did most for Science Fiction to become a part of American popular culture. When Campbell first encountered Dianetics, he was immediately spell-bound: the young "science of the mind" promised to fulfill many of the ideas, expectations and secret hopes of SF afficionados. He gave Hubbard much encouragement and supported him for some time. Eventually he became disillusioned, like A. E. van Vogt, James Blish and many other authors and fans from the SF scene. In some regards his story is quite typical. His letters give some rare insights into the SF movement of the time when Hubbard became notorious, and discuss him regularly."
 * From The Science Fiction Encyclopedia, page 167, under the article called "Dianetics", paragraph two of the article: "The editor of ASF, John W. Campbell, began experimenting with Hubbard's ideas in 1949, and believed them to be valid. In May 1950 ASF (after much prior publicity) published a long article on Dianetics, which was boosted as a form of psychotherapy which could achieve almost miraculous results in sweeping away all the dross that encumbered ordinary minds, leaving uncovered the SUPERMAN that is latent in us all."  Also, in the article on page 101 about Campbell: "He flirted with various kinds of PSEUDO-SCIENCE, notably Hubbard's DIANETICS, which was loosed on an unsuspecting world through an article in ASF."
 * What next? Will you deny the existence of ASF?  Or of Campbell?  Or of Hubbard.  Geez! Hayford Peirce 17:39, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

The following supporting User:DGOQ's comment from an article by L. Sprague de Camp from 1975, called "EL-RON OF THE CITY OF BRASS"

"Associated with Hubbard in the Dianetics movement were John W. Campbell and Dr. Joseph A. Winter, a physician specializing in endocrinology and psychosomatic medicine. Together they set up a Hubbard Dianetics Research Foundation in Elizabeth, New Jersey.

Campbell, a brilliant man with a scientific education who became the greatest of all science-fiction magazine editors, had found active scientific research uncongenial and had made writing and editing his career. One can only speculate why, for many years, he lent himself to one unscientific or borderline idea after another. I suspect that. failing to become a famous scientist himself, he harbored the ambition to be at least the discoverer of such a scientist.

The book Dianetics became a best seller despite the fact that psychologists, psychiatrists and other medical men heatedly denounced it as "amateurish and potentially dangerous meddling with serious mental problems." 10 Time and Newsweek described Dianetics as "the poor man's psychoanalysis," since the Dianetic system of auditing superficially resembles Freudian psychoanalysis.

After a year of nationwide expansion and controversy, the Dianetic movement fell on hard times. Heresies and schisms arose. Lurid accusations were exchanged. Branches seceded. Doctor Winter broke with Hubbard in 1950; Campbell disavowed Dianetics in 1951; the Research Foundation in Elizabeth disappeared."

~ WCFrancis 17:45, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

(anecdote alert) I met Campbell several times -- most notably at NYCon 3, at the old Hotel Pennsylvia in NY (it has several names, only oine phone number) -- late night, and we were walking past (of all things) a Scientology group meeting at the same time! Campbell turned and said that the one thing he regretted most in his life was printing L. Ron Hubbard's dianetics articles. He may have used an expletive. Collect (talk) 10:43, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

1937/1938 Started Editing Astounding?
Numerous sources (wikipedia included) cite 1938 as the year Campbell started editing Astounding. This boggles my mind, since any good bibliography will show that the first issue of astounding to list Campbell as Editor was October 1937.

Even the wikipedia article for Astounding (magazine) cites 1937, so i'm changing it

 * Science Fiction of the 20th Century by Frank M. Robinson and The World of Science Fiction by Lester del Rey have the exact dates down, if this article ever gets cleaned up. Campbell was hired as an editor by Tremaine in September of 1937 (Tremaine became the director of Street & Smith's magazines); it wasn't until the May 1938 issue that Campbell became full editor (when Tremaine left S&S). --LQ 14:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I have the relevant issues, so I took a quick look to see what evidence there was of the changeover. It appears Campbell's story selection extends at least back to the February issue.

 * The masthead does not list the editor, so there's no way to tell from the contents page who was doing what. However, by April the letters in "Brass Tacks" are addressed to either "Mr. Campbell", or just editor.  I'll keep looking back to see if there is an announcement printed.

 * In the April issue, the editor's page includes the following text: "In the past three issues, I have introduced M. Schere, John Victor Peterson, Kent Casey and now Lester del Rey." This was The Faithful, del Rey's first story, and in The Early Del Rey, del Rey makes it clear that in December 1937 he knew Campbell was editor before he wrote the story.  Del Rey submitted the story on December 24, 1937, and Campbell's acceptance arrived on January 8, 1938.  So it's pretty clear that it's Campbell who is writing as "The Editor" in the April issue.

 * M. Schere's first story was Anachronistic Optics, in the February 38 ASF; John Victor Peterson's first story was "Martyrs Don't Mind Dying", in the March 1938 issue; and Kent Casey's first story was Flareback, also in the March 1938 issue. So I think it's clear that Campbell was exercising significant editorial control at least as early as February.  It's possible that he was doing it under Tremaine's supervision.

 * I'll keep digging in these magazines and post anything else I can see that indicates the time of the change. Mike Christie 16:51, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

 * An additional note; it's widely known that Campbell instigated the title change from "Astounding Stories" to "Astounding Science-Fiction". The first issue under the new title is March 1938.  I think it's inarguable that Campbell must be listed as editor from that issue on; the question is whether his influence is clearly identifiable earlier than that. Mike Christie 16:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I just checked del Rey's The World of Science Fiction, and what he says there is ". . .when Tremaine left Street & Smith in 1938, Campbell assumed full authority for the magazine. Actually, he was responsible for the buying of stories considerably before that date."  So this jibes with my notes above.  The question is which transition is to be recorded: hired (September 1937); starting to buy stories (probably prior to November 1938, with the stories appearing at least as early as February 1938); or "full authority" (May 1938).  It's not clear to me what "full authority" means.  The best solution is probably to put all the information in the article, appropriate organized. Mike Christie 17:05, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

 * OK, here's another clue. In the February 1938 issue, there's a letter to the editor asking why the December 1937 issue promised "Two Science Features", but only one was printed.  The answer, apparently, was that the other would have been by Campbell, and since becoming editor the feature was cancelled.  The cover was already printed, so it still said "Two Science Features".  I believe the lead time on the covers was longer than for the stories, which was about 50-60 days (I think).  The lead time for the December issue contents would have been around early to mid October; the lead time for the cover was probably more like September.  Hence Campbell probably took up serious editorial duties in around September; just too late to change the cover, but early enough to avoid having to write that article.  I don't think this adds much to what we knew already, though; since it doesn't say anything about whether he was selecting stories. Mike Christie 17:20, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

 * The December 1937 issue has letters addressed to "Mr. Tremaine"; and none addressed to Campbell.

 * In the November 1937 issue, p. 159, there is the yearly legally required statement of ownership. This lists "F. Orlin Tremaine" as "editor" for October 1, 1937.  This doesn't prove Tremaine was selecting stories in September or October of 1937, but I think it means Tremaine has to be listed as the editor for those two months.  Because Campbell's selections were appearing as early as February 1938, I think he has to be listed no later than December 1937; and probably November 1937. Mike Christie 17:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

graduation
Is it absolutely established that he got a degree from either place? I've always thought that he implied to people that he had, but that in actuality he hadn't. I could easily be wrong about this, however. Hayford Peirce 20:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know; I was simply relying on Nicholls. Tuck just says he attended MIT, doesn't mention Duke, and says nothing about him graduating.Mike Christie 21:26, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Why doesn't this page generate a Contents box?
I've tried to get it to do so, but can't.... Hayford Peirce 20:53, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, now it has. Maybe it doens't show up in "Show preview" Hayford Peirce 20:54, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Science-fiction vs. sf
Hayford, I noticed you changed "sf" to "science-fiction" in the first paragraph. Can I ask why? I think it's nice to be able to abbreviate, if the abbreviation is well understood, once the word has been mentioned. Mike Christie 21:29, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Primarily because I think "sf" is one of those useful abbreviations that can come in a number of forms. Is it "sf", or "s.f.", or "SF", or "S.F."?  I've seen all of them used.  If there's a Wiki diktat that "sf" is the standard use, then fine.  Obviously, my point of view is tremendously nit-picky.  Probably like those members of the sf community who take tremendous umbrage if someone refers to sf as "sci-fi" -- i dunno why, but this really upsets some sfians.... (Also, I'm one of those tiresome guys who believes that "science-fiction writer" or "science-fiction fan" must always have a hyphen to be grammatically correct.... Ie, "John Campbell was a science-fiction editor who edited science fiction." ) Hayford Peirce 21:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

 * There's no diktat that I'm aware of. I'll leave it as you have it; I think I'd prefer 'sf', but it's personal taste.  Mike Christie 22:14, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I gotta say that I don't feel very strongly about it. But, for instance, I just went to the Isaac Asimov magazine website.  Throughout the page they refer to SF, in caps.  It's useless to Google this for numbers, since to Google sf, SF, and S.F., and s.f. are all identical.  I wish there was a clear concensus on this.... Hayford Peirce 22:40, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

My two cents: In the SF community SF relates to Science Fiction, Science Fantasy and (sometimes) to Speculative fiction. Sci-Fi (various spellings) refeer to standard writings (usually called space opera) or shelf fillers. That is why the community dont like Sci-Fi. Seniorsag 16:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Note on Bester's meeting with Campbell
Alfred Bester only met Campbell once; he tells the story in his essay My Affair with Science Fiction, in Hell's Cartographers, edited by Harry Harrison and Brian Aldiss (1975, Weidenfeld and Nicolson; my edition is a 1976 Futura reprint). The story is not at all complimentary to Campbell, but it does give a vivid picture of Campbell in the grip of Dianetics. Here's some text I had considered adding: "Bester tells a comic story of his only meeting with Campbell, in early 1950. Campbell insisted that Bester remove all references to Freud from his story "Oddy and Id", on the grounds that Hubbard had made Freud obsolete.  He also took Bester to a noisy publishing lunch room, and over sandwiches insisted that Bester try to remember his experience in his mother's womb; Bester, about to laugh uncontrollably, dodged Campbell's insistence via a subterfuge.  Bester had had tremendous respect for Campbell, having previously imagined him as "a combination of Bertrand Russell and Ernest Rutherford", but he left having reinforced his opinion that "a majority of the science fiction crowd, despite their brilliance, were missing their marbles".  I haven't added this text because it doesn't feel NPOV; it's not balanced -- it's really just an anecdote.  But personally this story is one of my touchstones over the last thirty years in my mental characterization of Campbell. And it is a real source. Is there a way to phrase this material to be appropriate and useful? Mike Christie 02:20, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Just put it in as it is: I remember reading the same thing. And there are lots of other anecdotes about Campbell that can be cited.  The guy was obviously a genius -- but also a crackpot.  How can one argue with Bester as a source? (Incidentally, I met Bester once -- in Ben Bova's Analog office the day before Nixon resigned.  A nice guy.) The only critique I would have with your insert is "publishing lunch room" -- that doesn't sound quite right to me. Hayford Peirce 03:28, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Moskowitz references
The Seekers of Tomorrow reference, if I understand it correctly, is a profile of Campbell that originally appeared in the August 1963 Amazing. I'd like to change those refs to point at the Amazing, and then add the Moskowitz article to the bibliography section with a note about the reprint in Seekers of Tomorrow. Any objections to doing it that way? Meanwhile I'll source a couple of other things from the Amazing version, since I don't have Seekers of Tomorrow. Mike Christie 17:13, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

 * No objections at all. The more info the better. On the other hand, the only source most people will ever be able to find is the book itself.  As long as that's shown there's no problem. (Well, I suppose I ought to put in the date and publisher of the book while I'm at it.  Will do so.) Hayford Peirce 17:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Sounds good; then when I do the re-reffing I'll move that info down to the biblio section. Mike Christie 17:27, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I created a Sources, like a number of other articles have, as distinct from References, which I understand serves for footnote info, and put the three books into Sources. Hayford Peirce 17:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Kelly Freas portrait of Campbell
At what I guess is the Russian Wiki there's a Kelly portrait that I've seen before.

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Any chance, do you think, of getting it legally into this article? Hayford Peirce 01:34, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Hard to see how; would be nice though -- that's a famous picture. Mike Christie 19:23, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Census information
Out of curiosity I took a look at the 1920 and 1930 census records, and found Campbell in both. In 1920 he is living at 27 Madison Ave, in South Orange Township, Essex county, NJ. The family is

 * John Campbell, head of household, home owner (mortgage), male, white, 38, married, able to read and write, b. OH, father b. VT, mother born MA, speaks English, Elect. Eng. at Amer. Tel. Co., on salary.
 * Dorothy Campbell, wife, female, white, 31, married, able to read and write, b. OH, father b. IL, mother b. OH, speaks English, not employed
 * John W. Campbell Jr., son, male, white, 9, single, attended school in last year, b. NJ
 * Laura Campbell, daughter, female, white, 1, single, b. NJ

In 1930, his parents have divorced or (more likely) his father died, as his mother has now remarried. The household appears to be at 433 Lincoln Ave., again in Orange, Essex, NJ; there are several families listed at this address and all indicate they are renters so it may be a rooming house of some kind. The household is now:

 * James A. Middleton, head, renting, rent $60/mo, does not own a radio, male, white 43, married, aged 41 at first marriage, not on a farm, can read and write, b. England, both parents b. England, spoke English before coming to US, immigrated 1921, naturalized, merchant of Elect. Appliances [I think], employed, not a veteran
 * Dorothy Middleton, wife, female, white, 43, married, aged 21 at first marriage
 * John W. Campbell, stepson, male, white, 19, single
 * Laura P. Cambpell, stepdaughter, female, white, 12, single

I don't think this is technically original research since these sources are verifiable independently. It's too boring to add in wholesale, though; I'll pull some info out and add it later. Mike Christie 19:23, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Failed GA
For these reasons:
 * Please shorted the Bibliography section. Not all the publications of the author are needed, only the major ones.
 * who dominated most of his meetings with writers, is a bit POV and not referenced.

My two cents: Many authors mentions this, also mentiond in talks with authors. He was said to be able to take any position as long as he got reasoned opposition. Seniorsag 16:46, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

These are minor edits to make thus popping back into GAN in a few days. Lincher 16:14, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Address the few citation needed tag placed.
 * In the eyes of others is a section that has too many point of vue oriented sentences though if referenced well enough it would is acceptable.

 * Thanks for the review. Any reason not to move the bibliography into a subsection and leave a summary in place?  Book collectors do like this sort of information; is it inherently unencyclopaedic? Mike Christie 17:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

 * In a number of other articles (H.P. Lovecraft, for example), long bibliographies have been moved to their own articles. -Harmil 21:28, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I fixed one of the "citation needed" tags; I can't find a source that explicitly says September 1937 was when Campbell was hired, so I'm changing it to late 1937, which is certainly supported. Mike Christie 21:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

 * It seems you've fixed the above and I'd make it GA, pending one thing...you have him in the SciFi Hall of Fame, but this isn't in the article???? I'd think that's a big deal, to be a member. Rlevse 02:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I added a note to the end of the editorship para about it. I agree it should be mentioned; it's actually not that big a deal in my mind -- the Hall of Fame is nice publicity but not one of the main items of recognition within the field.  Anyway, it's done.  Mike Christie 03:01, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I've never even heard of the SF Hall of Fame! Hayford Peirce 16:26, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Unsupported statements
Here are a few statements I've removed that I'd put back if I could find sources. Can anybody oblige?

 * Isaac Asimov once asked Campbell why he had stopped writing fiction after he became the editor of Astounding. Campbell explained, "Isaac, when I write, I write only my own stories. As editor, I write the stories that a hundred people write." It was once said that Robert A. Heinlein, Campbell's most notable discovery, was merely "the pen in Campbell's hand."  Not surprisingly, Heinlein himself strongly disagreed.

 * Like many of his other interests, however, this waned with time and he is generally not believed to have ever been a member of the Church of Scientology.

 * Campbell was far from universally popular, even before he began exploring Dianetics and other scientifically dubious ideas. He believed in the American model of society as understood in the 1940's and 1950's and was opposed, not only to Communism, but to what he called "hyperdemocracy", the notion that equality was enforceable by law and custom, and that the more able members of society had to be hobbled so the less able could compete with them. Isaac Asimov has said that, while he knew Campbell regarded other cultures as inferior, including the Jewish background he himself came from, this was not something that affected their working relationship.  Authors Randall Garrett and Robert Silverberg tailored a series of stories to Campbell's views, culminating in a novel, The Dawning Light, which Campbell serialized.

 * Campbell was a tall, charismatic, physically impressive man who dominated most of his meetings with writers. A life-long smoker, he died of cancer at age 61.  He had written at least one editorial in Astounding defending smoking and positing that nicotine, as absorbed through smoking, had beneficial effects that outweighted the negative.  Among the positive effects, he speculated, was stimulation of the brain cells and greater intellectual awareness and clarity.

- Mike Christie 21:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

 * We all know he was tall -- do we have to document that Wilt Chamberlain was tall also? It's common knowledge he died of cancer. There must be dozens of sources saying he was charismatic (although the word wasn't used in the '40s) and dominating.  I myself read the smoking editorial years ago, perhaps more than one of them.  I wonder how far documentation has to be carried.  Lyndon Johnson was tall, charismatic, physically impressive, and dominated meetings.  All that was obvious at the time.  Does each word have to have a specific source? Hayford Peirce 22:24, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually, I didn't know he was tall, and I'm a bit surprised to hear it -- for some reason I've always visualized him as short. You're right, though; we don't have to source every word.  I think your additions from Asimov just now are exactly what was needed. Mike Christie 00:10, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

 * What about the cigarette editorials? I read at least one: I know he wrote what you cut out.... Hayford Peirce 00:21, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, I have all the Campbell ASFs -- if you can guess the year, I'll scan them to see if I can spot it. Mike Christie 01:47, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Geez, I wish I could pin it down more than saying it was in the 1960's, which covers a lot of ground. Sometime in the early 60s, any time between October 1960 and June 1963, he wrote an editorial in which he argued that had the Civil War not occurred the slaves would have been freed by their masters in the very near future because increasing industrialization would have made them more valuable as hired workers than sullen fieldhands.  And that as a consequence the status of blacks (as of 196?) would be better than it actually was.  That's a typically provocative editorial that you might be able to track down. Hayford Peirce 16:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

 * 'Isaac Asimov once asked Campbell why he had stopped writing fiction after he became the editor of Astounding. Campbell explained, "Isaac, when I write, I write only my own stories. As editor, I write the stories that a hundred people write."'

The quote is from Asimov's introduction to ASTOUNDING: John W. Campbell Memorial Anthology (1973) —wwoods 20:38, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

From his statements to me and others at NYCon 3, I can aver he was NOT a Scientologist!  He definitely liked being listened to, but he allowed others to speak and he listened -- a very interesting person. Collect (talk) 10:46, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Fan Issue
The current version states that the fan issue was the March 1948 issue, but claims that Heinlein's "Gulf" appeared in the fan issue. Gulf was serialized in the November and December 1949 issues. Shsilver 03:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I thought the dates were wrong and was about ready to go check them out but decided to have dinner first. Now I've done the research and, of course, you're correct.  I've rewritten the article. Hayford Peirce 05:24, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I was planning on checking them after dinner also, but things got away. Thanks for confirming. Shsilver 18:33, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

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Unsourced note on comic authorship
I just removed this:

"It is possible that Campbell moonlighted as a comic book writer while editor of Astounding. In Ranger Comics #1-4, published by Fiction House in 1941, was a series of stories written by 'John Campbell' that starred a character named 'Don Stuart.' Coincidence?"

It was unsourced, and is original research as it stands, but I'm adding a note here in case anyone can source it. Mike Christie (talk) 12:47, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Hi, Mike, glad to see that you're still around, but sorry you never joined Citizendium. I've brought in all of the Campbell parts that I wrote here and done a little adding to them. Some of your text may be inadvertently in my text though.... I just renamed the article http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/John_W._Campbell,_Jr. -- a Google search for Jr. vs. non-Jr. is about even BUT he himself used the Jr. in his byline. I have the Nov. 1949 Astounding and he's listed as Editor with the Jr., plus it's used that way on his "Astounding Anthology" or whatever the exact title is. All the best! Hayford Peirce (talk) 16:20, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Howdy, Hayford, nice to hear from you. I had a look at the Citizendium article -- nice work.  No worries if it does include any text of mine.  I had a look at Citizendium -- in fact I think I joined -- but decided not to do anything there.  I kind of like the fact that my text gets edited by others.  Anyway, I keep an eye on it periodically.  Hope to see you around here every now and then too. Mike Christie (talk) 20:14, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Well, it's *supposed* to get edited (and rewritten, etc., a la WP) but in lots of areas we simply don't have enough contributors to work together. For instance, I *really* enjoyed working with you here on the Campbell article -- to me that is the ideal of wiki-working.  But unless there's a critical mass of people involved it can't happen. What *is* pleasant about CZ, is the lack of revert wars, the overall professionalism and politeness. Whether it will ever reach critical mass, though, I dunno.... I imagine that a lot of people like you and Russ Letson simply don't want to reinvent the wheel all over again.  I got so frustrated with the revert wars and vandals here at WP, however, that those elements were enough to drive me out.... Hayford Peirce (talk) 21:39, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't do much vandal reversion, but the little I do is enough to sadden me.  Still, I suspect it's rather like having kids; there's no parent license required, but even so you do get the occasional Einstein or Gandhi.  Perhaps Citizendium is an experiment in requiring a parent license . . ..

 * I agree our collaboration was a lot of fun, and I'd like to do more of that. If you're interested I am probably going to work on some of the classic magazines over the coming year -- I've done a few already but Fantastic Adventures, Startling Stories, Unknown (magazine) and of course Astounding Stories don't have featured article status or even GA status yet.  Interested?  It would probably be after Christmas but I could drop you a note when I am ready to work on them if you like.  Mike Christie (talk) 23:12, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Your "experiment in requiring a parent license" is a nice phrase and actually probably quite accurate! We've had to expel a couple of rambunctious "teenagers" but not many. As for the magazine edits, I really know nothing at all about *any* of the magazines except certain periods of Analog/Astounding. The trouble with WP, from my point of view, is that most of the articles (not all, of course) end up being nothing but laundry lists or data dumps -- valuable in a way, of course, but not quite the way I think that most of them should be handled, with a unified theme throughout the article. No one at CZ *owns* an article any more than they do at WP, but because the nature of most of the contributors is somewhat different, CZ articles almost always have some sort of unified structure to them. I look at some of the WP articles I worked on intensively a long time ago and am saddened by what I see now -- they have been hacked to fit the procrustean bed of WP standards and any early unity or structure is now gone. But I'll keep an eye on what you're doing! And if you want to help reinvent the wheel someday, you know where to go! (You can bring in WP articles [particularly the ones on which you have done most or all of the work] and rework them slightly to become CZ articles, as I have done with the Campbell one.  With Campbell, I left out a lot of stuff that I hadn't originally been involved with at WP -- maybe someday I'll rewrite it and put it in.  Or someone else will come along and do so.) Cheers! Hayford Peirce (talk) 17:12, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Other editing
During the 1940s (at least) Street & Smith published /Air Trails/ magazine, later /Air Trails Pictorial/. In the July, 1943 and March, 1944 issues, the masthead lists Editor: William Winter. In the October, 1947 and November, 1947 issues, the masthead lists Editor: John W Campbell, Jr.

I thought this significant in light of the biographical entry that his second wife was Margaret Winter.

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Both far left and far right?
So he is far-right because he supports far right politics, yet he is far-left because he believes bad science? "in the 1968 national election, for instance), although many of his opinions were extremely far left, for example, the new-age theories of psi powers more often associated with the so-called 'counter-culture', something which no right-minded right-winger would ever consider as 'science.' There was bitter opposition to this from many.""

So supporting pseudoscience means you can't be rightwing? There are tons of right-wingers into esoteric mysticism. See JFC Fuller --Gary123 (talk) 17:35, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Wait! This is a quote from Isaac Asimov who is a notable person in his own right. Unfortunately, we have two choices. 1) we can remove the quote from Asimov, but we'd need a better reason for doing so than we think his logic is bad. 2) We can come up with a quote from someone else refuting Asimov. This is going to be hard to do, as well. I think that Asimov is saying that Campbell was a complex person. I read his editorials and he jumped around a lot. I'm reading his letters now and they jump around as well. Not crazy, but not quite stable either. He's trying to provoke ideas and controversy. As far as "new age" goes, sorry, but that is thought to be (labeled) associated with "left-wing", whether correctly or incorrectly. That is the fault of the labeling process and can't really be blamed on Asimov, per se. Student7 (talk) 17:55, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

 * I agree that the quote is not entirely encyclopedic, but it is supposed to be a top of the head (Asimov is like Campbell in that regard!) reflection on someone Asimov knew fairly well.

 * A third possibility which I don't like either is to ... the stuff that is labeling. But that completely deguts the sentence, I think. This is one top-of-his head guy reflecting on another. Can the reader live with it? You don't like labeling bad science as left-wing, but that wasn't the point of the sentence, really. An aside that reflects more on Campbell and Asimov more than it does on the left, IMO. Anyway, there are crazies in both wings IMO. No "wing" has a lock on crisp logic! :) Student7 (talk) 18:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

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Asimov
I restored the infobox mention of infuencing Asimov. To be frank, this is a no-brainer. After all, Campbell wrote the three laws of robotics that are attributed to Asimov and form the core of his most popular works. The article already had a quote from Asimov talking about how huge an influence Campbell was on the genre, but I brought in a cited sentence from Isaac Asimov which focuses on Campbell's influence specifically on Asimov. I'm StillStanding (24/7) (talk) 20:54, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Super-science space opera
What is the meaning of "super-science" in the lead description of Campbell's fiction published under his own name as "super-science space opera"?

The term super science does not appear in our article space opera, nor in science fiction. --P64 (talk) 20:56, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Nor is there any entry for 'Super science' or 'super-science' in the Clute/Nicholls The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction, only proper names that begin with 'Super Science'. One is Super Science Stories (which could mean really excellent science stories, but doesn't mean that) and Super-Science Fiction (which couldn't mean that). -P64

 * It refers to the sort of exhuberent, slam-bang, planet-busting, galaxy-spanning adventure tale originated by E. E. "Doc" Smith, in which a sense of wonder was evoked by (pseudo-) scientific devices and technologies employed by both heroes and villains like rabbits pulled out of hats by magicians in their efforts to out-do and defeat each other. Literal planet-busting devices were a commonplace of this sort of story. Originally synonymous with space opera, though later space opera tended to shed its excesses. There were also super-science stories on a small scale that lacked the broad scope that typified Smith's stories; these would not have been considered space opera. Other notable authors of super-science/space opera included Edmond Hamilton, Jack Williamson and (of course) John W. Campbell. BPK (talk) 21:22, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

 * Does super-science mean non-science in a way that is deemed beyond science, as supernatural'' means non-natural in a way that is deemed beyond nature?
 * Or may planet-busting machinery such as the Star Wars Death Star be called super science merely as a really big application of ordinary science, not even clearly advanced beyond our science?
 * "Rabbits pulled out of hats" suggests to me a convention of writing and reading, a permissive attitude to incorporation of what i am not sure. Perhaps magical effects such as teleportation, taken for granted to be the application of science so advanced that we can't distinguish it from magic.

 * "super-science stories on a small scale" --are there any agreed classics?
 * --P64 (talk) 18:26, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

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Separating Notes from Footnotes/citations
I am thinking about separating the notes from the reference citations. Any thoughts, does anyone care?User-duck (talk) 22:01, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Human chauvinism
Isaac Asimov remarked several times that Campbell always insisted that humans as a species always had to have some slight advantage or something extra with respect to any aliens. That's part of why Asimov started writing about an effectively human-only galaxy at that time (as in the Foundation series). This should be mentioned in the article.

Also, Campbell must have published the Dianetics article in the May 1950 issue of Astounding despite knowing that Hubbard had said that "The real way to make money would be to start a religion" (something which Hubbard apparently said during several meetings of science-fiction writers near the end of the 1940s, and so which Campbell could hardly have avoided hearing of...) AnonMoos (talk) 17:28, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

 * According to this webpage, Lloyd Eshbach stated in his memoirs that Campbell was directly present on one occasion in 1948 or 1949 when Hubbard made a version of the remark.. AnonMoos (talk) 17:09, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

A couple of citation errors
There are a couple of citation errors. I've tracked down the history of the missing one, when it was removed, and placing definition where it needs to be. Definition for "Latham2009" was removed in February 2020 but a call for it still exists in another location. There is also a parameter error for another citation. Will be placing the definition for "Latham2009" in the location it is invoked and will be correcting the parameter error. Let me know if there are any concerns. —Eewilson (talk) 05:22, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

GA concerns
After reviewing the article, I have many concerns and do not think it meets the good article criteria anymore. Concerns are listed below:

 * The lede is bloated, with 5 paragraphs and a lot of information. Is all of this text cited in the article body?
 * There is lots of uncited text throughout the article.
 * The article relies on block quotes, instead of summarising what the sources say. I think the quotes should be assessed to see if they need to be in the article, and if so if they need to be that long.
 * There are 5 sources listed in the "Further reading" section. Can these be cited in the article?

Is anyone willing to address these concerns? If not, I may nominate it for WP:GAR. Z1720 (talk) 01:55, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I wrote this nearly twenty years ago, and what passed for GA back then is not good enough now. I don't think I can commit the time to fixing this to current GA standards, and it no longer resembles the article I wrote, so I would suggest GAR. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 02:12, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

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Release Date
Is it possible to fix the Release Date Bug? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uncanny Snake (talk • contribs) 12:14, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Untitled
I restructured this so that it is easier to identify what each paragraph is about. I left most of the content as it was (deleting the obvious non-NPOV sections), but this article definitely needs help (as do the other Breath of Fire articles, but this one in particular). --John Lynch 16:42, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Removed categories
May I ask why the categories for the release years were removed? 1994 was the Japanese release date, 1995 was the US release date, and 2002 was the US GBA release date (not sure about Japanese GBA release date.) Anyway, good job on cleaning up the article! Y0u (Y0ur talk page) (Y0ur contributions) 19:33, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * My bad. I added them back in. And thanks. --John Lynch 03:04, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

2 or II
The official name of this game is Breath of Fire II, not Breath of Fire 2. I think the page should probably be moved to the page with that title. ~ Oni Lukos (No, that's not my real name) c

Character links
I believe that the links should all end in (Breath of Fire character) except for ones that can't refer to anything else, which, in this case, is probably just Deathevan, which isn't really the name of the character (It's Evans...it's just his boss form is called "Deathevn"), but not (Breath of Fire 2 character). I don't know why they should be bolded either, but it's not that bad. ~ Oni Lukos c 00:53, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Other Characters
I just added a lot under the Other characters entry. I tthink it would be a good idea to move this entire section into the List of Breath of Fire II characters article instead. What do you guys think?
 * Please sign your comments. Also, how do you know all of these Japanese names...? There's no way 二ムフ could be "Nympho" or トルボ could be "Turbo"... I've actually PLAYED the Japanese game. I'm fairly certain those are their Japanese names, but I could be mistaken. I was playing rather quickly. ~ Oni Lukos ct 02:02, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Sorry about that. All the original Japanese names of the characters (even NPCS and towns people) were dispalyed at the ending of the game in the English version.  Since Kata was used for the characters name, it is expected that the names for the characters arn't Japanese names but foreign or made up words.  And the Japnese write foreign words accoring to how the words sound, not how they are spelled.  Most of the names at the ending make alot more sense than the literal Kata-->Engrish translations done by the USA department. Also your example of 二ムフ would be literally translated as Nimufu or Nimuhu, since in Japanse, every syllable must end in a vowel, you can now see the awkwardness of wrting english words in Japanese eh?  Also the Fu and Hu sound shares the same Kata in Japanese which is フ.  Since the game actually translated the name as Nimufu, it is probabaly the closest when sounded out.  Now taken in the consideration that all syllables need to end in a vowel (except for the n sound), most people tend to selectively leave out the u sound when translating directly from Kana to a foreign langauge (like クリスマス or literally Kurisumasu is Chritsmas, ヅルタ or literally deruta is Delta), so Nimufu is read as Nimfu which properly spelled is Nympho, you see where I'm going? Same as トルボ which is literally Torubo, since there is no way to properly write Turbo with Kata, but if we sound the word Turbo out, it's Torbo, so Torubo would be the Kata transaltion. Same as the name アルツハイマー which is Alzheimer. -- whipsandchains 02:33, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You're under the misunderstanding that I don't know how katakana transliterations work. I've been working with them for years. I know it's been at least four...but it's probably been more than that. Anyway, 二ムフ, while literally transliterated as "nimufu" or "nimuhu", can be transliterated as Nymph also, but to be Nympho, it would have to be にムフョ(オ/ウ), and, last time I checked, that's not how the name is written. トルボ, also, could be "torubo", "trubo", "tolbo", and a bunch of other things, but I think it'd have to be トー(ル)ボ or トゥー(ル)ボ, or something like that, to be "turbo". There simply isn't enough emphasis on the first syllable. Granted, when I was playing through the game, I wasn't exactly looking at all of the names that were going by. In fact, I was specifically trying to get to "Nimufu" to find out her Japanese name. (Might I mention that アルツハイマー couldn't be "Aruhamel" because it has no ル at the end and the ツ would have to be discarded?) ~ Oni Lukos ct 12:58, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes those are very good points you have, and those would definitely be the way to write the words in kata from a native english speaker's point of view, however those subtle differences go unnoticed when pronouced by anyone who isn't a native speaker of English, not to mention that the game was made 10 years ago when English-->Kana wasn't as refined as it is today. Like I said, finish the game, take a gander at the ending (its present in the SuperNes version not sure about the GBA) when they list all the characters with their full names and you'll see that they wrote Nimufu's name as The Lonely Witch - Nympho Mani and that other witch who picks a bar fight with you as Over Drink.  As for トルボ, yeah I think youre right, traditionally Turbo should be written as ターボ.  I went through the cast list again one more time to make sure and the official transalation is actually Turvoe.  And the アルツハイマー, his name is written as アルツハイマー, but for some reason in the English version it's written as "Aruhamel", but in the ending, he is listed as The Mindbreaker  - Alzheimer.  This one Im more convinced is an error in the translation, esp if it was by Ted "I've never met a name I didn't change" Woolsey.--whipsandchains 19:47, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Story section
I added in the tag for an overly long plot summary-- I really don't feel like the section needs to be this long, does it? I Jethrobot 07:27, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No, it should be a summary, not a complete account of everything. Rarr 23:29, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I for one welcomed the long plot summary, as I had this game for a brief period years ago and found it so tedious that I returned it, despite the interesting little story. Now I can finally find out what happened in the end without wading throught the mind-numbing turn based combat. Vive long plot summaries!
 * Ditto on the long plot summary, this was one of the games I loved to play as a kid, and i'm not sure where else I could get the entire plot summary from. I think it should stay as isMalriem 19:03, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

According to WP:NOT, the plot summary really shouldn't be this long and detailed. I will give you guys a few days to store this summary on your computer, but it will have to get shortened eventually, either by me or someone else. Larrythefunkyferret 08:33, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Deece vs. Deis
The name should be Deece, not Deis. This appears to be a translation error from Breath of Fire 3. Her name is ディース not デイース. Failing to notice that small イ was used would result in Deis, and that seems to be what happened. This is consistent with 2's ending text. -- Myria 02:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * She's called Deis in the first game and in this game in the translation, even if it is incorrect (and, according to, you are correct). However, that is the way it was translated, and hence it should not be changed (if that's what you're implying). ~ Oni Lukos ct 03:33, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Translation?
I remember BOF2 being heavily criticized because of its terrible translation. Can't seem to find anything on the Internet about it except blogs, but I didn't look very hard. I think if a reliable source can be found it should be added. Recent Return (talk) 18:47, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

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Spycraft

Spycraft is a d20 and OGL-based role-playing game dealing with superspies and modern action. Originally published by the Alderac Entertainment Group (AEG), it is currently published under licence by Crafty Games.

History
Originally envisioned—and initially publicised—as a paranormal superspy game called Series Archer, the game was split into 2 complementary product lines: Spycraft (silver trade dress) which devoted itself to a generic cinematic superspy/action setting, and Shadowforce Archer (black trade dress) which featured a setting focused on a global shadow conspiracy based on a wide variety of supernatural elements. After the release of the core book (subsequently referred to as the Spycraft Espionage Handbook ) in 2002, multiple print supplements were released in the following years for both lines. Each of these books sported highly distinctive cover art by artist Veronica V. Jones.

A new edition of the rules, Spycraft 2.0, was released in August 2005. Shortly afterwards, economic issues forced AEG to cull Spycraft from its product range. As a result, early in 2006 the core authors of the 2nd edition – Alex Flagg, Scott Gearin and Patrick Kapera (who also co-authored Spycraft 1.0) ) – formed Crafty Games to continue the line under licence, predominantly through PDF file releases supported by strategic print releases. This model has changed over time, permitting a growing number of print releases including compilations of previous PDF releases. During this time Crafty Games began referring to Spycraft 1.0 as Classic Spycraft.

Classic Spycraft

 * ENnie (Nominee for Best d20 Game, 2002)
 * Outie (Best New RPG, 2002)
 * Pen & Paper (Best Graphic Design Runner-Up, 2002)
 * Pen & Paper (Best RPG Runner-Up, 2002)
 * Grog d'Or (Best RPG Nominee, 2003)

Spycraft 2.0

 * Outie (Best Retread, 2005)
 * Diana Jones (Nominee for Excellence in Gaming, 2006)
 * ENnie (Nominee for Best d20 or OGL Product, 2006)
 * ENnie (Nominee for Best Game, 2006)
 * ENnie (Nominee for Best Product, 2006)
 * ENnie (Nominee for Best Rules, 2006)

Classic Spycraft
Classic Spycraft is a d20 System game, implementing a number of changes to the core mechanics in order to give a more contemporary feel:

 * The system used the Vitality/Wound Point system originated in the Star Wars d20 RPG.
 * Races were replaced by Departments. The mechanic would later evolve into the slightly more simulist meta-Departments before then being used to model non-humans.
 * Characters gained both a Defense and Initiative bonus which improved with their character levels, while armor instead adds damage resistance rather than add to defense (Armor Class).
 * Modern day skills like Computers and Electronics were added to the skill list. Characters in Spycraft can also critically succeed or critically fail at skill checks.
 * A system for resolving high-speed chases was included in the main rulebook (and expanded somewhat in later supplements). The system involves both sides of the chase picking maneuvers with specific game effects and then rolling a contest of skill to determine which takes effect.  The system was later used by the d20 conversion of White Wolf Publishing's Aeonverse games.
 * Characters kept a certain amount of personal gear, but the gear would be replaced by the Agency the characters worked for when lost. Characters also received additional gear for each mission based on the threat level code of the mission (White, Yellow, Red, or Black).
 * Characters received a number of "Action Dice" based on their character level (and feat selection) for each play session. These Action Dice would be used during play to add to die rolls or to activate a critical success (or critical failure on the part of your opponents).  The Game Control (Spycraft's term for a Game Master) also received a number of Action Dice to use for his NPCs, and could award the players (and himself) additional Action Dice for particularly good play.

Spycraft 2.0
Spycraft 2.0 took these changes a step further and was released under the Open Game Licence (OGL), but not the d20 System Trademark License. There were also numerous changes from Classic Spycraft, such as:

 * New character options, including Wealth and Interests, help flesh out characters more effectively.
 * Plug-and-play modifications called Campaign Qualities that allow characters to advance in some skills and abilities faster at the expense of others that slow down by the same rate. Other Campaign Qualities have more general effects, such as defining the campaign as taking place in a specific time period, or making combat more of a danger.
 * Each character chooses an Origin at character creation. Unlike Dungeons & Dragons's Race mechanic and Classic Spycraft's Departments, Origins consist of two parts which allow players to choose an almost unending variety of character benefits and detriments.
 * The skills system has been reworked. The d20 System skill list has been replaced by a new list. Each skill has a variety of codified checks that that skill can perform. The skills rules more rigorously detail matters that were often left to group contract in other d20 System games.
 * A redesigned gear system that simplifies one of the more unwieldy parts of Classic Spycraft. Budget and Gear Points have been replaced with Common Items, and a number of Gear Picks based on a character's class and gadgets can now be designed freeform style.
 * Vehicular chases have been expanded into a new rules mechanic called Dramatic Conflicts. The one system covers chases, seduction, hacking and other dramatic events.
 * Mission and NPC creation have been redesigned, and are now crafted to give a set amount of XP based on their ability instead of using Challenge Ratings. This simplifies mission creation.

Shadowforce Archer
The first of all the Spycraft campaign settings. The world of Shadowforce Archer (SFA) is an Earth where mystical and psionic powers are real. A series of supplemental books that were released to support the SFA worldbook. Each book details one of the international Chambers of the world. Each book has a different theme and includes new rules and agent options appropriate to the theme. The setting was discontinued at the beginning of 2005. Spycraft 2.0 contains many classes and feats that first appeared in the SFA line.

The Shadowforce Archer World Book has recently been re-released in PDF format by Crafty Games. The rest of the SFA line will also be made available in PDF format throughout the rest of the year (and possibly into the next).

 * Archer Foundation Chamber Book [AEG1001]: Details the continent of Australia and the South Pacific region. The theme is super-espionage, conspiracy and paranoia and is an expansion and continuation of the plot and events in the main worldbook.
 * Pan-Asian Collective Chamber Book [AEG1005]: Details the continent of Asia and the Pacific Rim. The themes are Martial Arts fighting, Anime-style high tech, and hard-boiled Hong Kong action.
 * European Commonwealth Chamber Book [AEG1006]: Details the continent of Europe. The themes are techno-thriller, suspense, and double-crosses.
 * African Alliance Chamber Book [AEG1007]: Details the continent of Africa. The themes are action, adventure, misdirection, and mystery.

Dark Inheritance
Released in 2004 by Mythic Dreams Studios, Dark Inheritance (DI) was originally a d20 Modern campaign setting but converted across to the Powered by Spycraft banner using the Classic Spycraft rules. It describes an Earth that has been ravaged by ancient mystical powers, allowing Demons and other foul beasts access to this dimension. The setting book contains new rules that allow agents to play as Titans (powerful descendants of antediluvian demi-gods), worship the demonic forces and gain access to mystic powers (reprinted from the SFA world book).

There are a number of supplements planned for DI, similar in fashion to those for SFA. There is no release date as yet for any of these supplements.

World On Fire
Released in December 2007, World On Fire is the title of the world book that covers the setting detailed in the Spycraft CCG. Agents are able to fight the forces of evil alongside such groups as the Shadow Patriots and Banshee.Net. The book features even more character options (in the form of new origins, base and expert classes, and new master classes for higher level characters). New classes include the Ace, the Centurion, the Edgemaster, the Fixer, the Forward, the Goliath, the High Roller, the Martial Artist, the Medic, the Menace, the Mole, the Ninja, the Provocateur, the Saboteur, the Spin Doctor, the Street Knight, and the Terrorist.

Fantasy Craft
Fantasy Craft was released in both hardcover and PDF formats in 2009 through the Flaming Cobra imprint of Mongoose Publishing. Following Crafty Games' parting with Mongoose, a soft-covered second printing incorporating the errata generated up to that point was released in 2010.

Originally the game was intended for release as an expansion of the Spycraft 2.0 ruleset, following up the first two Origin of the Species electronic products that added character creation options for a variety of standard fantasy and classical Greek non-humans to the ruleset. During the development process, the decision was made by Crafty Games to instead take the opportunity to significantly streamline the game mechanics in response to user feedback and create the ruleset referred to as Mastercraft. This permitted the release of Fantasy Craft as a standalone product under the Open Gaming Licence, including full rules for character generation, conversion mechanics for monsters found in the System Resource Document, and the tools for creating, populating and presenting user-generated campaign settings to players.

Fantasy Craft was nominated in 2010 for an Origins award for best RPG and an ENnie for Best Writing; it also received an honorable mention at that year's ENnies for Product of the Year.

2010 also saw two further Fantasy Craft soft-covered print products, both of which reprinted previously electronically published material. The first was Time of High Adventure, which compiled the previously published "The Darkest Hour" and "Cleansing of Black Spur" and added a third original mission as well as a chapter expanding upon the implied setting of all three modules. This was followed up by the Adventure Companion, which contained 3 campaign settings originally intended for release as part of the core book before being cut for space, and a fourth chapter offering a number of new game mechanic options, including a compilation of the non-spellcasting "Call to Arms" character class releases, some additional classes and a small library of additional specialities, feats and tricks.

A fourth print release titled Spellbound is currently slated for publication. In addition to compiling the spellcasting "Call to Arms" character class releases, its content is focused on greatly expanding the mechanical and narrative options for magic use in a Fantasy Craft game.

Ten Thousand Bullets
Long teased on the Spycraft forums under the name 'Project X', Ten Thousand Bullets is a gritty crime setting intended to bring Spycraft down to street level with new rules to allow players to become police, gangsters and everything in between. Originally intended for release at Gen Con Indy 2007, the creative process behind Fantasy Craft has resulted in its being slated for release as a Mastercraft title.

Organized play
Spycraft has a long history with organized play and living campaigns. For 5 years Spycraft could be played as part of the Living Spycraft campaign, which was a part of the RPGA (Role Playing Game Association) network of Living Campaign settings.

The Living Spycraft campaign had been in the planning stages for a while before RPGA approval was provided on 29 August 2002 with the campaign starting properly in October 2002 utilising the, then current, Classic Spycraft rules. In 2005 the campaign converted to the Spycraft 2.0 rules but, at the end of 2007, Crafty Games ended the campaign although the original campaign scenarios are still available as free downloads. A number of volunteers who ran the Living Spycraft campaign restarted it independently as Spymaster but this campaign ceased in 2010. Likewise, in 2008 a UK-only campaign, called For Queen & Country, started. This campaign utilises a version of Classic Spycraft that incorporates aspects of Spycraft 2.0.

Classic Spycraft

 * Modern Arms Guide (AEG (print), Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Gentleman's Agreement (AEG (print), Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Game Control Screen (AEG (print), Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Soldier/Wheelman Class Guide (AEG (print), Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Fixer/Pointman Class Guide (AEG (print), Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Faceman/Snoop Class Guide (AEG (print), Crafty Games (PDF))
 * The 1960s Decade Book (AEG (print), Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Most Wanted (Paradigm Concepts (print))
 * Agency (AEG (print), Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Mastermind (AEG (print), Crafty Games (PDF))
 * U.S. Militaries (AEG (print), Crafty Games (PDF))
 * World Militaries (AEG (print), Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Battlegrounds (AEG (print), Crafty Games (PDF))

Crafty Games has re-released the first edition books in PDF format. The first two PDF releases, the Spycraft Espionage Handbook and Shadowforce Archer came with a Conversion Document that allows owners to use the material with Spycraft 2.0.

Spycraft 2.0
There are currently 28 supplements available for the new version of Spycraft (21 from Crafty Games and 6 licensed products).

 * Agent X: Firebrand (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Agent X: One Man Army (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Agent X: The Runner (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Back to Basics: Modern SRD Classes for Spycraft (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Bag Full of Guns: Dragon's Fury (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Bag Full of Guns: Red Heat (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Bag Full of Guns: This is My Gun (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Bag Full of Guns: This is My Rifle (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * The Big Score (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Black Knight Casino (Darkfuries (print))
 * Combat Missions (Paradigm Concepts (print and PDF))
 * Conspiracies (Paradigm Concepts (print and PDF))
 * Fragile Minds (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Odd Jobs (Crafty Games (print))
 * Operation: Nightfall (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Origin of the Species: Classic Fantasy (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Origin of the Species: Light of Olympus (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Origin of the Species: Transmechs (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Practice Makes Perfect (Crafty Games) (PDF)
 * Real American H.E.R.O.es (Crafty Games) (PDF)
 * Skyshark Stealth Helicopter (Fat Dragon Games) (PDF)
 * Shadow Play (Crafty Games (print))
 * Spellbound: The Channeler (Revised) (Crafty Games) (PDF)
 * Spellbound: The Seer (Crafty Games (PDF))
 * Spycraft 2.0 Game Control Screen (Crafty Games) (PDF)
 * Twilight 2013 Shooter's Guide: Alternate Arms (93 Games Studios (PDF))
 * Twilight 2013 Shooter's Guide: Pistol-Caliber Carbines (93 Games Studios (PDF))
 * World on Fire (Crafty Games (print and PDF))

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