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Convention to propose amendments to the United States Constitution

A convention to propose amendments to the United States Constitution, also referred to as an Article V Convention, state convention, or amendatory convention is one of two methods authorized by Article Five of the United States Constitution whereby amendments to the United States Constitution may be proposed: on the Application of two thirds of the State legislatures (that is, 34 of the 50) the Congress shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which become law only after ratification by three-fourths of the states (38 of the 50). The Article V convention method has never been used; but 33 amendments have been proposed by the other method, a two-thirds vote in both houses of Congress; and 27 of these have been ratified by three-fourths of the States. Although there has never been a federal constitutional convention since the original one, at the state level more than 230 constitutional conventions have assembled in the United States.

While there have been calls for an Article V Convention based on a single issue such as the balanced budget amendment, it is not clear whether a convention summoned in this way would be legally bound to limit discussion to a single issue; law professor Michael Stokes Paulsen has suggested that such a convention would have the "power to propose anything it sees fit", whereas law professor Michael Rappaport and attorney-at-law Robert Kelly believe that a limited convention is possible.

In recent years, some have argued that state governments should call for such a convention. They include Michael Farris, Lawrence Lessig, Sanford Levinson, Larry Sabato, Jonathan Turley, Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, and Greg Abbott. In 2015, Citizens for Self-Governance launched a nationwide effort to require Congress to call an Article V Convention, through a project called Convention of the States, in a bid to "rein in the federal government". , CSG's resolution has passed in 19 states. Similarly, the group Wolf-PAC chose this method to promote its cause, which is to overturn the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Citizens United v. FEC. Their resolution has passed in five states.

In late 2023, The Heritage Foundation issued a report titled Reconsidering the Wisdom of an Article V Convention of the States.

Organizations opposed to an Article V convention include the John Birch Society, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, Eagle Forum, Common Cause, Cato Institute, and the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity. Law Professor emeritus William A. Woodruff has pointed out that James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, a member of the Virginia legislature, a delegate to the Philadelphia Convention, and a delegate to the Annapolis Convention that recommended what became the Philadelphia Convention, was opposed to an Article V convention to consider adding a bill of rights to the Constitution. When asked whether a convention should be called to consider a bill of rights, Madison said, "Having witnessed the difficulties and dangers experienced by the first Convention which assembled under every propitious circumstance, I should tremble for the result of a second . . . . " Woodruff urges state legislators who are asked to vote in favor of an application to Congress to call an Article V convention to carefully consider the knowns and unknowns of the convention method before opening Constitutions to a series of unintended consequences.

History

At the time the 1787 Constitutional Convention convened in Philadelphia, eight state constitutions included an amendment mechanism. Amendment-making power rested with the legislature in three of the states and in the other five it was given to specially elected conventions. The Articles of Confederation provided that amendments were to be proposed by Congress and ratified by the unanimous vote of all thirteen state legislatures. This was seen by the Federalists as a major flaw in the Articles, as it created a nearly insurmountable obstacle to constitutional reform. The amendment process crafted during the Constitutional Convention, James Madison later wrote in The Federalist No. 43, was designed to establish a balance between pliancy and rigidity: "It guards equally against that extreme facility which would render the Constitution too mutable; and that extreme difficulty which might perpetuate its discovered faults. It moreover equally enables the General and the State Governments to originate the amendment of errors, as they may be pointed out by the experience on one side, or on the other."

Creation of the amendment process
One of the main reasons for the 1787 Convention was that the Articles of Confederation required the unanimous consent of all 13 states for the national government to take action. This system had proved unworkable, and the newly written Constitution sought to address this problem.

The first proposal for a method of amending the Constitution offered in the Constitutional Convention, contained in the Virginia Plan, sought to circumvent the national legislature, stating that "the assent of the National Legislature ought not to be required." This was subsequently modified by the Committee of Detail to include a process whereby Congress would call for a constitutional convention on the request of two-thirds of the state legislatures.

During the debate on the Committee of Detail's report, James Madison expressed concern about the lack of detail in the article regarding how the convention amendment process would work, stating that "difficulties might arise as to the form" a convention would take. He later proposed removing reference to the convention amendment process, thus giving the national legislature sole authority to propose amendments whenever it thought necessary or when two-thirds of the states applied to the national legislature. Several delegates voiced opposition to the idea of the national legislature retaining sole power to propose constitutional amendments. George Mason argued from the floor of the Convention that it "would be improper to require the consent of the National Legislature, because they may abuse their power, and refuse their consent on that very account." Mason added that, "no amendments of the proper kind would ever be obtained by the people, if the Government should become oppressive." In response to these concerns, the Convention unanimously voted to add the language allowing states to apply to Congress for a convention to propose amendments to the Constitution.

Permissible scope of applications to Congress
A frequent question is whether applications from the states can omit to mention subject matter, and instead request an unlimited convention. Practice suggests that separate unlimited applications submitted to Congress at different times are not allowed. Article V itself calls for "the application of the legislatures" instead of calling for plural "applications".

States have requested that Congress convene an Article V convention to propose amendments on a variety of subjects. According to the National Archives, Congress has, however, never officially tabulated the applications, nor separated them by subject matter. On at least one occasion though, the Congressional Record has included such a tabulation, which indicated that, as of September 22, 1981, thirty states had made a request for a balanced budget amendment. In 1993, professor Michael Paulsen and his research staff assembled a listing of all state applications to date, but neither Paulsen's list, nor any other, can be safely characterized as "complete" since there may very well be state applications that have been overlooked and/or forgotten.

In two law review articles in 1993 and again in 2011, Paulsen argued that state applications for an Article V convention limited to a particular subject matter are invalid and that only applications that include a call for an unrestricted convention are valid. If Paulsen's criteria that state applications must not be limited to particular subject matter and that a rescission by states are valid, then forty-five applications from states were active as of 1993. Paulsen argues that Congress has had ample direction to call a convention on these grounds.

There has been no definitive determination by the Supreme Court regarding the state convention amendment method, though it has handled several cases and an array of arguments on the scope which Amendments can ultimately affect. The 1939 case Coleman v. Miller, which questioned whether a state legislature could relinquish endorsement of an Amendment pertaining to child labor, decided in part, "the question whether a reasonable time had elapsed since submission of the proposal was a nonjusticiable political question, the kinds of considerations entering into deciding being fit for Congress to evaluate, and the question of the effect of a previous rejection upon a ratification was similarly nonjusticiable, because the 1868 Fourteenth Amendment precedent of congressional determination 'has been accepted. The case is seen to stand as authority for the proposition that at least some decisions with respect to the proposal and ratifications of constitutional amendments are exclusively within the purview of Congress, either because they are textually committed to Congress or because the courts lack adequate criteria of determination to pass on them.

Permissible scope of proposed amendments
Because no Article V convention has ever been convened, there are various questions about how such a convention would function in practice. One major question is whether the scope of the convention's subject matter could be limited.

The language of Article V leaves no discretion to Congress, merely stating that Congress "shall" call a convention when the proper number of state applications have been received. Comments made at the time the Constitution was adopted indicate that it was understood when the Constitution was drafted that Congress would have no discretion. In The Federalist, Alexander Hamilton stated that when the proper number of applications had been received, Congress was "obliged" to call a convention and that "nothing is left to the discretion of Congress." James Madison also affirmed Hamilton's contention that Congress was obligated to call a convention when the requisite number of states requested it.

In the North Carolina debates about ratifying the Constitution, James Iredell, who subsequently became one of the founding members of the Supreme Court, stated that when two-thirds of states have applied to Congress for a convention, Congress is "under the necessity of convening one" and that they have "no option."

By citing the Constitution's Necessary and Proper Clause, Congress has tried to enact a statute to regulate how an Article V convention would function. Sponsored by the late Senator Sam Ervin, such a bill passed the U.S. Senate unanimously in 1971 and again in 1973, but the proposed legislation remained bottled up in the Committee on the Judiciary in the U.S. House of Representatives and died both times. Senator Orrin Hatch made a similar proposal several times in the late 1980s culminating in 1991 with no more success. Opponents to congressional regulation of an Article V convention's operations argue that neither Article I nor Article V of the Constitution grants Congress this power, and that the Founders intended that Congress "have no option." There has been no opportunity for federal courts to decide whether Congress has such authority because such legislation has never been adopted by Congress.

Some scholars believe that states have the power to limit the scope of an Article V convention: Larry Sabato is one scholar who advanced that view. Some feel that Congress's duty to call a convention when requested by the states means that it must call the convention that the states requested. If the states, therefore, request a convention limited to a certain subject matter, then the convention that is called would likely need to be limited in the way the states requested.

If states have the power to limit an Article V convention to a particular subject matter, and Congress only has power to call a convention but no further power to control or regulate it, then a potential concern becomes whether an Article V convention could become a "runaway convention" that attempts to exceed its scope. If a convention did attempt to exceed its scope, none of the amendments it proposed would become part of the constitution until three-fourths of the states ratified them, which is more states than are required to call a convention in the first place. Some proponents of a convention express doubt that an Article V convention would exceed its scope, in light of the United States' experience with state constitutional conventions; over 600 state constitutional conventions have been held to amend state constitutions, with little evidence that any of them have exceeded their scope. This is reinforced by the fact that prior to the 1787 Philadelphia Convention, there were many other conventions of the states (some called by Congress, but most called by the states themselves) where the delegates operated within the scope of their commissions.

Further, at many Conventions, States have directly controlled their delegates. In the New Hampshire Convention to ratify the U.S. Constitution, delegates were sent with instructions to vote against the Constitution: when they were convinced that the voters had been mistaken, the delegates later returned to their constituents to convince them and request new instructions, allowing the convention to represent the true voice of the people.

Similarly, in the 1787 Convention, problems arose after two of New York's delegates walked out in protest, as the New York State Legislature had created a rule that required two delegates to agree to cast a vote on behalf of the state. As the legislature opted not to send new delegates, Alexander Hamilton accepted the authority of the state and was unable to cast a vote for the remainder of the convention. This is the fundamental difference between a Delegate to a Convention, there to do the bidding of their constituents, and a Representative to a Legislature, there to stand in place of their constituents and make decisions based on their own deliberation.

The delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention did disregard Congress's recommendation to "solely amend the Articles" but as Madison noted in Federalist No. 40, the resolution Congress passed in February 1787 endorsing the convention was only a recommendation. Regardless, the delegates sent nothing to the States at all, sending their new Constitution to Congress, as was their mandate. Congress debated the matter before voting to send it on to the States for ratification with no recommendation for or against.

Ability of states to rescind applications to Congress
The legislatures of some states have adopted rescissions of their prior applications. It is not clear from the language of Article V whether a subsequent vote to rescind an application is permissible. As discussed above, however, if the purpose of Article V is to give state legislatures power over a recalcitrant Congress—and if state lawmakers may indeed limit their applications by specific subject matter—it is possible that federal courts would hold that rescissions of previous applications are likewise valid, in order to give more meaningful effect to the power which Article V confers upon state legislators.

If it is ultimately adjudicated that a state may not rescind a prior application, then Ohio's 2013 application for a balanced budget amendment convention would be the 33rd and Michigan's 2014 application would be the 34th (out of the necessary 34) on that topic, rather than the 20th and 22nd, respectively. The balanced budget amendment applications by Ohio and Michigan were new, first-time convention applications, whereas the renewed applications from Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Tennessee, South Dakota, and Utah simply reprised applications made by those states during the 1970s but which had been rescinded during the period between 1988 and 2010.

Those claiming that rescission is impossible often also argue that different topics can be combined during a convention's deliberations. Congress has more than enough applications on a single issue to call a convention—if rescission is not valid—and more than enough applications on multiple topics regardless of rescissions. Consequently, if a State believes that combining topics could be done by Congress, even if a State feels that doing so would be contrary to the intent of the Constitution, then that State would also have to conclude that Congress can ignore rescission.

Since 2016, 10 state legislatures (Delaware in 2016; New Mexico, Maryland, Nevada and Texas all in 2017; South Dakota in 2019; Colorado and New Jersey in 2021, Illinois in 2022, and Oregon in 2023) have rescinded previous applications to call for such a convention.

Supreme Court interpretations of Article V
While the Supreme Court has never definitively interpreted the meaning of Article V, it has, on four occasions, referred to the Article V convention process:

Dodge v. Woolsey, 59 U.S. 331 (1855): "[The people] have directed that amendments should be made representatively for them, by the Congress ...; or where the legislatures of two thirds of the several States shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, become valid, to all intents and purposes, as a part of the constitution, when ratified ..."

Hawke v. Smith, : "[Article V] makes provision for the proposal of amendments either by two-thirds of both houses of Congress or on application of the legislatures of two-thirds of the states, thus securing deliberation and consideration before any change can be proposed. The proposed change can only become effective by the ratification of the legislatures of three-fourths of the states or by conventions in a like number of states. The method of ratification is left to the choice of Congress."

Dillon v. Gloss : In a ruling upholding Congress's authority to place a deadline on a particular Constitutional amendment's ratification, the Court reaffirmed that "A further mode of proposal—as yet never invoked—is provided, which is that, on the application of two-thirds of the states, Congress shall call a convention for the purpose."

United States v. Sprague, 282 U.S. 716 (1931): "[A]rticle 5 is clear in statement and in meaning, contains no ambiguity and calls for no resort to rules of construction. ... It provides two methods for proposing amendments. Congress may propose them by a vote of two-thirds of both houses, or, on the application of the legislatures of two-thirds of the States, must call a convention to propose them."

Because of the political question doctrine and the Court's ruling in the 1939 case of Coleman v. Miller (307 U.S. 433), it remains an open question whether federal courts could assert jurisdiction over a legal challenge to Congress, if Congress were to refuse to call a convention.

Attempts to call an Article V convention
Every state except Hawaii has applied for an Article V Convention at one time or another. The majority of such applications were made in the 20th century. Before any official count had been taken, one private count puts the total number of applications at over 700.

Even though the Article V Convention process has never been used to amend the Constitution, the number of states applying for a convention has nearly reached the required threshold several times. Congress has proposed amendments to the Constitution on some occasions, at least in part, because of the threat of an Article V Convention. Rather than risk such a convention taking control of the amendment process away from it, Congress acted pre-emptively to propose the amendments instead. The Bill of Rights, which includes the first ten amendments, as well as the Twenty-seventh Amendment, were proposed in part because of a Convention application by the New York and Virginia legislatures at the suggestion of a letter from the New York State Convention to ratify the Constitution. The convention would have been limited to those changes discussed at the various State ratifying Conventions. At least four other amendments (the Seventeenth, Twenty-First, Twenty-Second, and Twenty-Fifth Amendments) have been identified as being proposed by Congress at least partly in response to the threat of an Article V convention, bringing the total to 15 out of 27, a majority of the Amendments.

Direct election of Senators
In the late 1890s, the House of Representatives passed multiple resolutions for a constitutional amendment providing for direct election of senators. The Senate refused to consider those resolutions. In 1893, Nebraska filed the first Article V application for direct election of senators. By 1911, 29 states had Article V convention applications on file for an amendment providing for direct election of senators, just two short of the 31-state threshold. As new states were being added the threshold increased, however those States had already passed resolutions supporting such a Convention. The final count is somewhat uncertain, but when either one or two further states were required the Senate finally conceded and passed its version of an amendment in May 1911, which was then approved by the House in 1912 and submitted to the states.

World federal government
In 1949, six states — California, Connecticut, Florida, Maine, New Jersey, and North Carolina — applied for a convention to propose an amendment "to enable the participation of the United States in a world federal government." Multiple other state legislatures introduced or debated the same proposal. These resolutions were part of an effort at the time to integrate the United States into a potential world government.

Congressional apportionment
There have been two nearly successful attempts to amend the Constitution via an Article V Convention since the late 1960s. The first try was an attempt to propose an amendment that would overturn two Supreme Court decisions, Wesberry v. Sanders and Reynolds v. Sims, decisions that required states to adhere to the one man, one vote principle in drawing electoral districts for state and federal elections. The attempt fell only one state short of reaching the 34 needed to force Congress to call a convention in 1969, but ended by the death of its main promoter Senator Everett Dirksen. After this peak, several states (whose legislatures by this point had been re-engineered in the wake of the rulings) rescinded their applications, and interest in the proposed amendment subsided.

Balanced budget
In response to increasing federal deficits, a movement in the 1970s by the states to impose fiscal discipline on the federal government began. Between 1975 and 1979, thirty states petitioned Congress for a convention to write a balanced budget amendment. By 1983, the number of applications had reached 32, only two states short of the 34 needed to force such a convention. In addition, at least four states (California, Illinois, Kentucky, and Montana) had adopted resolutions requesting that Congress propose a deficit spending amendment. California and Montana were set to hold ballot initiatives that would have forced their legislatures to file convention applications, but state courts ruled the two ballot initiatives unconstitutional, and the effort stalled. Enthusiasm for the amendment subsided in response to fears that an Article V Convention could not be limited to a single subject and because Congress passed the Gramm–Rudman–Hollings Balanced Budget Act in 1985 (the act was overturned by the Supreme Court in 1986 but Congress enacted a reworked version of the law in 1987 ). By 1988, two states (Alabama and Florida) had rescinded their applications on the topic of a federal balanced budget amendment. Similar rescissions were approved in Louisiana (1990), Oregon (1999), Idaho (2000), Utah, (2001), North Dakota (2001) Wyoming (2001), Arizona (2003) and Georgia (2004).

Recently the movement has seen a revival. On November 20, 2013, the Ohio General Assembly applied to Congress for a convention to propose a balanced budget amendment. This effort made Ohio the 21st state to join a push for a national convention of states. On March 26, 2014, the Michigan Legislature applied to Congress for a convention to propose a balanced budget amendment, making Michigan the 22nd to participate in the national effort. On April 27, 2016, the Oklahoma Senate approved an Article V convention on a balanced budget amendment, making Oklahoma the 29th state to participate in the national effort. On November 7, 2017, the Wisconsin Legislature approved an Article V convention resolution for a balanced budget amendment.

Campaign finance
A political action committee called Wolf-PAC emerged from New York's Occupy Wall Street movement in October 2011. Wolf-PAC calls for a convention of states in order to propose a constitutional amendment that addresses the issue of campaign finance. The resolution reads "Corporations are not people. They have none of the Constitutional rights of human beings. Corporations are not allowed to give money to any politician, directly or indirectly. No politician can raise over $100 from any person or entity. All elections must be publicly financed."

, Wolf-PAC's application had been adopted in three states: California and Vermont in 2014; and Rhode Island in 2016. New Jersey and Illinois previously adopted the application in 2014, but rescinded it in 2021 and 2022, respectively.

Convention of States Project
The conservative group Citizens for Self-Governance (CSG) is engaged in an ongoing effort to call an Article V Convention. Through its "Convention of States Project", CSG is seeking "to urge and empower state legislators to call a convention of states." CSG states that it initiated the Convention of States project "for the purpose of stopping the runaway power of the federal government." Mark Levin has supported CSG's efforts to a call a convention for the purpose of proposing amendments to the constitution.

In December 2013, nearly 100 legislators from 32 states met at Mount Vernon to talk about how to call a convention of states. According to Slate, "The meeting lasted four hours, ending when legislators agreed to meet again in the spring of 2014. That’s the most progress anyone’s made in decades toward a states-first constitutional amendment campaign."

In February 2014, U.S. Senator Tom Coburn announced that after his retirement from Congress, he would focus on promoting the Convention of States to state legislatures. In December 2015, Marco Rubio endorsed CSG's efforts to a call an Article V Convention. In January 2016, Texas Governor Greg Abbott called for a Convention of States to restrict the power of the federal government. In June 2017, former U.S. Senator and former Heritage Foundation president Jim DeMint announced his role as a senior adviser for the Convention of States project.

In September 2016, CSG held a simulated convention to propose amendments to the United States Constitution in Williamsburg, Virginia. An assembly of 137 delegates representing every state gathered to conduct a simulated convention. The simulated convention passed amendments relating to six topics, including requiring the states to approve any increase in the national debt, imposing term limits, restricting the scope of the Commerce Clause, limiting the power of federal regulations, requiring a supermajority to impose federal taxes and repealing the 16th Amendment, and giving the states the power to abrogate any federal law, regulation, or executive order. In August 2023, CSG held a simulated Article V convention in Williamsburg.

, CSG's application for a Convention of States has been passed in 19 states. 34 states are required for a convention to be called.

Single Subject Amendment PAC
A Super PAC called Single Subject Amendment registered with the Federal Election Commission on March 1, 2013. It is actively engaged in an effort to call an Article V Convention for the limited purpose of proposing an amendment to provide every law enacted by Congress shall embrace only one subject which shall be clearly expressed in the bill's title. Forty-one state constitutions have a single subject provision but this provision is not in the United States Constitution. In April 2014, Florida became the first state to make an application for an Article V Convention to constitutionally prohibit unrelated riders in Congress.

Aggregation strategy
Some Article V convention proponents have proposed aggregating unrelated applications, including aggregating plenary convention and BBA applications, to reach the 34-state threshold necessary to call a convention. In 2021–2022, resolutions advocating for such an approach were introduced in Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Utah. Additionally, legislation was introduced in the 117th Congress to convene a convention by aggregating state applications.

An alternative proposal is to amend the constitution to allow the states to ratify amendments asynchronously, of their own initiative.

Gun control
On June 8, 2023, Gavin Newsom proposed a 28th amendment to the constitution to address gun control, specifically by raising the minimum age to purchase firearms to 21, instituting universal background checks for firearm purchases, requiring mandatory waiting periods, and banning assault weapons. He proposed having an Article V convention to address this amendment. In September, the California State Legislature formally applied for an Article V convention proposing such an amendment.

Term limits
Since 2016, U.S. Term Limits has called for an Article V Convention with the limited purpose of imposing term limits on Congress. Resolutions calling for such a convention have been passed by the state legislatures of Florida, Alabama, Missouri, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, and Tennessee.


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The result of the debate was Delete --Allen3 talk 11:22, July 23, 2005 (UTC)

EbolaWorld
EbolaWorld is not a very well-known websbite; for example, looking up "Taco-Man", or "The George Bush Show" do not display any pages on ebolaworld.com Gafaddict 03:01, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment . The Alexa rank for their website is 417,000, and they get 9440 Googles on just their name. Most of these appear to be hobby-sites, however. If someone filters through the Googles and shows me where they have come to considerable media attention I might vote keep. -Splash 04:50, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'm with Splash. I'm kinda leaning towards weak delete, but I can be swayed either way, with enough background. -mysekurity 05:46, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete notability not established. JamesBurns 09:17, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, just another website. Dcarrano 13:57, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: Inasmuch as Wikipedia is not a web guide, a site needs to not only be popular, but actually a leader in some respect for me to believe that it requires coverage. The more susceptible to time the site is, the less we need it.  Geogre 18:04, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep* they have had several shows on flashplayer.com, such as the george bush showJCS 22:23, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep* The website is very good and obviously destined for success. Ebolaworld's Michael Jackson cartoons have been featured on atomfilms. Newgrounds puts ebolaworld cartoons on the front page everytime they are submitted. One of its series recently won 3 different categories in the animation magazine pitch party contest.(http://www.animationmagazine.net/article.php?article_id=4200). The George Bush Show was featured in a holiday issue of Hustler magazine in 2003. --Adamcik 21:32, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
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Anyone interested in pulling together a US WikiPedia conference, I would be interested in helping to pull it together in Ann Arbor, MI. There is considerable resource here and if there is interest, I will reach out to the University of Michigan or Internet II for a place to meet. It is very easy for people around the US to get here, because Detroit Metro is one of the larger US airports and only 25 minutes away (between Ann Arbor and Detroit). Also, there are many interesting speakers we could draw from the community (Proquest, Borders, University of Michigan, Internet II, etc). --Ronreed 23:55, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

US Chapter
Hi Ron. Thanks for the congratulations. We don't currently have any options for membership. The idea was raised about a year ago, but there was never anyone with enough interest to get it going, so I've suggested it be removed from the bylaws. Currently, donations are just via the Fundraising page, not through any form of "joining" the Foundation. If you would like to get involved in the fundraising efforts, please see grants and fundraising ideas.

There has been some discussion at United States Wikimedia Chapter and on the Wikimedia US mailing list already, so it may be best to get involved there, and also on the U.S. notice board. I've not heard of Proquest. How do you think they could contribute?

Angela. 20:11, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Ann Arbor, Michigan - Interested in helping?
I am in the process of expanding and cleaning up this article in hopes of one day getting it featured. Seeing that you are in the Ann Arbor area, I was wondering if you are interested in helping? The article is currently in peer review, one of the last steps before featured article candidacy. Pentawing 01:49, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the information. Could you give me the exact issue (date, volume) and/or URL of the Crain Detroit information? I am doing this since I want to cite anything that I add. As for the economy information, it is a lot, which might require a sub-article. Also, I noted on the article's talk page that the article could have too much mention of UM (though the University does influence the city a lot). Hence, I am trying to keep the amount of new information concerning UM at a minimum from here on out (lest the article becomes another University of Michigan article :-)). Let me know what you think. Pentawing 18:15, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know, I closed the peer review and placed the article for Featured Article Candidacy. Pentawing 23:16, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

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Taphians

In Homeric Greece, the islands of Taphos (Τάφος) lay in the Ionian Sea off the coast of Acarnania in northwestern Greece, home of seagoing and piratical inhabitants, the Taphians  (Τάφιοι). Penelope mentions the Taphian sea-robbers when she rebukes the chief of her suitors. Athena is disguised as Mentes, "lord of the Taphian men who love their oars", who accepts the hospitality of Telemachus and speeds him on his journey from Ithaca to Pylos. The Taphians dealt in slaves.

By the time of Euripides, the islands were identified with the Echinades: in Euripides' Iphigeneia at Aulis (405 BCE), the chorus of women from Chalcis have spied the Hellenes' fleet and seen Eurytus who "led the Taphian warriors with the white oar-blades, the subjects of Meges, son of Phyleus, who had left the isles of the Echinades, where sailors cannot land." Modern scholars, such as the editors of the Barrington Atlas of the Greek and Roman World, identify the island of Taphos as the island of Meganisi just east of the larger island Lefkada (Leucas).

The Taphians accounted themselves the descendants of Perseus, for the mother of Taphius, their eponymous colonizer, was a granddaughter of Perseus and lay with Poseidon to beget the heroic founder. Another tradition holds that Taphius was one of the Leleges, and grandson of Lelex. Their most noted king was Pterelaos, rendered immortal by Poseidon by the single golden hair among the hairs of his head, but undone by his faithless daughter (Comaetho) who plucked it while he slept, so that the Mycenaean adventurer Amphitryon of Tiryns could overcome and kill him and retrieve the cattle Pterelaos' sons had rustled from Mycenae, along with many spoils besides. As he was returning with his spoils to his bride at Thebes, Zeus preceded him by one night: taking Amphitryon's shape, and brandishing a Taphian cup as a sign of his success, the king of gods fathered Heracles.

They are often identified with the Tilevoides (Τηλεβόιδες), islands in the Ionian Sea.

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Echinades

The Echinades (Greek: αἱ Ἐχινάδες νῆσοι per Herodotus, Thucydides, and Strabo, per Homer Echinae (αἱ Ἐχῖναι νῆσοι, Curzolari) are a group of islands in the Ionian Sea, off the coast of Acarnania, Greece. The archipelago is commonly subdivided into three groups: the Drakoneres in the north, the Modia in the middle and the Ouniades in the south. Administratively, the Echinades form part of two regional units: Ithaca and Cephalonia. Six of the islands, including Oxeia, one of the largest, are owned by Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, the emir of Qatar, who purchased them for a reported £7.3 million sterling. The Battle of the Echinades in 1427 and the Battle of Lepanto in 1571 were fought at or near the islands.

History
Several of the islands have been joined to the mainland by alluvial deposits. Herodotus says that half of the islands had been already united to the mainland in his time (ii. 10); and Thucydides expected that this would be the case with all of them before long, since they lay so close together as to be easily connected by the alluvium brought down by the Achelous River (ii. 102.). This expectation, however, has not been fulfilled, which Pausanias attributed (viii. 24. § 11) to the Achelous bringing down less alluvium in consequence of the uncultivated condition of Aetolia; but there can be little doubt that it is owing to the increasing depth of the sea, which prevents any perceptible progress being made.

The Echinades are mentioned by Homer, who, in the Iliad, says that Meges, son of Phyleus, led 40 ships to Troy from Dulichium and the sacred islands Echinae, which are situated beyond the sea, opposite Elis. Phyleus was the son of Augeas, king of the Epeians in Elis, who emigrated to Dulichium because he had incurred his father's anger. In the Odyssey, Dulichium (which may be an island in the Echniades) is frequently mentioned along with Same (Kefalonia), Zacynthus, and Ithaca as one of the islands subject to Ulysses, and is celebrated for its fertility. Strabo, and most modern writers, place Dulichium among the Echinades, most identifying it with the island of Makri. Euripides (in Iphigeneia at Aulis) identifies the Echinades with the islands of Taphos (Taphiae Insulae). However, most modern scholars, including the editors of the Barrington Atlas of the Greek and Roman World, place the island of Taphos at Meganisi east of Lefkada, quite northwest of the Echinades; hence, the islands of Taphos would include Meganisi, Kalamos, Kastos, and surrounding islands.

Homer, as we have already seen, describes the Echinades as inhabited; but both Thucydides and Scylax represent them as deserted. Strabo simply says that they were barren and rugged (x. p. 458). Stephanus of Byzantium names a town Apollonia situated in one of the islands (s. v. Ἀπολλωνία). Pliny the Elder gives us the names of nine of these islands — Aegialia, Cotonis, Thyatira, Geoaris, Dionysia, Cyrnus, Chalcis, Pinara, Mystus. Another of the Echinades was Artemita (Ἀρτεμίτα), which became united to the mainland. Artemidorus spoke of Artemita as a peninsula near the mouth of the Achelous, and Rhianus connected it with the Oxeiae (Oxeias, Oxiés, or Scrofés) islands. (Steph. B. s. v. Ἀπτεμίτα) The Oxeiae (αἱ Ὀξεῖαι) are sometimes spoken of as a separate group of islands to the west or south of the Echinades, but are included by Strabo under the general name of Echinades (x. p. 458). The Oxeiae, according to Strabo, are mentioned by Homer under the synonymous name of Thoae or Thoai.

Name
The Echinades derived their name from the echinus or the sea urchin, in consequence of their sharp and prickly outlines. For the same reason they were called Oxeiae, or the Sharp Islands, a name which one of them still retains under the slightly altered form of Oxeia (Oxiés, Oxiá, or Oxia). Leake remarks that the Echinades are divided into two clusters, besides Petalas (Petalá), which, being, quite barren and close to the mainland, is not claimed, or at least is not occupied by the Ithacans, though anciently it was undoubtedly one of the Echinades. The northern cluster is commonly called the Drakoneres, from Drakonera, the principal island; and the southern, the Ouniades or Oxeiae. By the Venetians they were known as the islands of Kurtzolári, which name belongs properly to a peninsula to the left of the mouth of the Achelous, near Oxeia. Seventeen of the islands have names, besides the four Modia (Stamodio or Módi Islands), two of which are mere rocks, and nine of the seventeen are cultivated. These are, beginning from the south — Oxeia (Oxiá), Makri (Makrí), Vrómonas (Vromotas or Vrómona), Pontikos (Pondikónisi), Karlonísi (Karlónísi), Prováti, Lampriní (Lambrinó), Sofía (Sofiá), also known as Gaia, Drakonera (Dhragonára). Oxeia alone is lofty (421 meters). Makri and Vrómonas are the two islands next in importance.

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The Mourning After

The Mourning After is the third studio album by the American nu metal band 40 Below Summer. The album was released on October 28, 2003 via Razor & Tie Records. Two singles were released from the album in "Self Medicate" and "Taxi Cab Confession".

During promotion of the album, 40 Below Summer appeared on Headbangers Ball, and the video for "Self Medicate" found significant airplay and the song was featured on the soundtrack for the thriller film The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. This video features the group performing the song in a city park as well as various acts of indulgent "self medication" by townspeople (i.e. secretively buying pornography, gorging on food, making out). The following year, MTV2 held a fan's choice poll for the Best Metal Videos of 2004. The results aired on the December 25 edition of Headbangers Ball with "Self Medicate" ranking in at #18.

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Musical style
Joey D'amico, who played guitar on the album, stated "Before, we wanted to be really heavy, but we so wanted the music to be melodic, so we'd slap those parts right next to each other. Now we learned how to meld them together to create a sound."

Reception
John D. Luerssen of Allmusic awarded The Mourning After three stars. He noted its more melodic approach, writing "while the band's forceful attack still won't land it in the pop survey, Bendeth's input does manage to give the band a foot up on other alternative metal acts in the run for airplay in the 'active rock' format." Luerssen also criticized the track "Breathless", stating that it "finds the outfit capably shifting into pop ballad mode à la Creed." He goes on to write "that momentary lapse in direction is soon corrected, however, and as The Mourning After unfolds, tracks like the cathartic 'F.E.' and the spooky 'A Season in Hell' right the wrongs for 40 Below Summer's ballooning headbanger clientele."

CMJ New Music Report gave the album a positive review in October 2003, and compared its sound to Machine Head, Spineshank and Killswitch Engage. They wrote that, "40 Below Summer got the shaft when its debut was released in 2001. Less than six months into the album cycle, the band's label (London) folded. Rather than bitch and moan about the unfortunate circumstances, however, the New Jersey act regrouped and wrote a better record." They add that, "songs like 'Self-Medicate' and 'Taxi Cab Confession' are undoubtably more memorable than some of the band's previous jump-and-sing-along anthems."

Track listing

 * Track 10 contains the hidden track, "The Day I Died" beginning at 11:58.

40 Below Summer

 * Max Illidge – vocals
 * Joey D'Amico – guitar
 * Jordan Plingos – guitar
 * Hector Graziani – bass
 * Carlos Aguilar – drums, piano

Additional Musicians

 * Christian Machado – vocals on "F.E."

Production

 * David Bendeth – production, mixing
 * UE Nastasi – mastering
 * Dan Korneff – engineering, mixing on "Monday Song"
 * John Bender – engineering
 * Nick Cohen – engineering
 * Amy V. Cooper – photography
 * Dan Levine – album art layout
 * Carlos Aguilar – album art layout
 * Hector Graziani – album art layout
 * Avery Singer – album art model
 * Satyakam Saha – album art sculpture

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Chun Mee

Chun Mee (pronounced ) is a popular green tea. It has a dusty appearance and is generally more acidic and less sweet than other green teas. It was originally produced only in the Chinese Jiangxi province, but is nowadays also grown elsewhere. The tea is divided into several grades with numbers. Some examples are: 41022, 4011, 9371, 8147, 9367, 9366, 3008 or 3009. The number 41022 in this case represents the highest quality, while number 8147 practically only consists of broken leaves.

Chun mee tea, together with Assam Bukial tea, has been studied to observe the rate of infusion of caffeine. The study found that caffeine diffusion through the tea leaves is a greatly hindered process.

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DVD cover for Bandai Entertainment's Region 1 release of Volume 6, "Final Fight"Volume 6: Final Fight, of the anime series Scryed. Ryuho is pictured on the left half with his alter, Zetsuei, in its first-level form. Kazuma on the right half, with his alter, Shell Bullet, in its second-level form.

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Talk:Plans (album)

What about Directions? -LK
 * I put in a short mention of it :) Snoopydance 01:30, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

<^>v!!This album is connected!!v<^>

 * All song titles serve as redirects to this album, have their own pages, or have had disambig links placed at the appropriate article or disambiguation page.--Hraefen Talk 23:00, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

iTunes Bonus Track
There is an additional track available when purchasing the entire album from iTunes. The track is titled Start Again (iTunes Version) [Bonus Track] and is 2 minutes, 38 seconds long. I did not know if it belongs in the article or not, so I will let someone else decide. :) MrHen. 15:52, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Indie
How is Transatlanticism an "indie" record? The album was released by Atlantic... You can't get much more non-indie than that...

Alstan Faber 12:04, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

You're quite mistaken. Plans was in fact the first album the band released under the Atlantic label; Transatlanticism was the last they released for Barsuk, the Washington-based indie label. So... in conclusion, maybe knowing more abut the band before talking would be good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.221.197.83 (talk) 23:58, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I suppose what he meant was "How is Plans indie when it was released to Atlantic?" 64.55.111.18 (talk) 19:55, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

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Australian Ice Hockey League

The Australian Ice Hockey League (AIHL) is Australia's top-level men's ice hockey league. Established in 2000, the AIHL is sanctioned by Ice Hockey Australia (a member of the International Ice Hockey Federation). The AIHL is a semi-professional league that is contested by ten franchised teams in two conferences spanning six Australian states and territories. AIHL premiers are awarded the H Newman Reid Trophy and AIHL champions are awarded the Goodall Cup, the world's third oldest ice hockey trophy, having been first awarded in 1909. The most successful team in AIHL history is the Newcastle Northstars, having claimed six championship titles. The current champions, from 2023, are the Melbourne Mustangs.

Foundation and first decade (2000-10)
The Australian Ice Hockey League (AIHL) was formed in 2000 following the collapse of the former national league. In its first season, the AIHL comprised three teams – the Adelaide Avalanche, Canberra Knights, and the Sydney Bears. During the first two seasons the teams competed in round-robin weekends over the length of the season, with the two top teams playing a single final. Adelaide Avalanche finished first in both years after the regular season, with the Sydney Bears winning the Goodall Cup in the 2001 playoffs.

Expansion and Finals introduction
In 2002 the AIHL expanded to six teams with the inclusion of the Melbourne Ice, Newcastle North Stars and the West Sydney Ice Dogs. The Sydney Bears finished first in the regular season standings and won the Goodall Cup playoffs. At the start of the 2003 AIHL season it was announced that the finals playoff would be expanded to include the top four finishing teams after the regular season. Newcastle North Stars won their first regular season and their first Goodall Cup. The following season, in 2004, the West Sydney Ice Dogs won their first Goodall Cup after defeating the Newcastle North Stars in the final.

In 2005 the AIHL expanded to eight teams with the Central Coast Rhinos and the Brisbane Blue Tongues joining the league. During the 2005 season the Avalanche signed former National Hockey League (NHL) player Steve McKenna who played over 350 games in the NHL while the North Stars won their second Goodall Cup. In 2006 the Brisbane Blue Tongues signed Canadian Rob Zamuner who had played nearly 800 games in the NHL. The North Stars went on to win their second consecutive Goodall Cup title, defeating Adelaide for the second year in a row. The 2007 AIHL season opened with the Avalanche and the Blue Tongues announcing the signing of former NHL players Mel Angelstad and Tyrone Garner respectively. The Bears won the 2007 Goodall Cup, their first since 2002, after defeating the North Stars in the final.

Team collapse and withdrawals
Starting the 2008 season the Brisbane Blue Tongues announced their relocation to the Gold Coast to become the Gold Coast Blue Tongues as well as the signing of former Tampa Bay Lightning player Gaetan Royer. During the season the Adelaide Avalanche folded due to financial problems. Following the withdrawal of the Avalanche a new team was formed, the Adelaide Adrenaline. Newcastle North Stars went on to win the 2008 Goodall Cup, defeating West Sydney Ice Dogs in the final. In 2009 the Central Coast Rhinos left the league after refusing to accept the AIHL's new licensing model and went on to join the newly formed Australian International Ice Hockey Cup. 2009 also saw the Goodall Cup withdrawn from the AIHL by Ice Hockey Australia so it could return to being a state contested tournament. It was replaced by the H. Newman Reid Trophy which was won by the Adrenaline. The following season, 2010, Ice Hockey Australia returned the Goodall Cup to the AIHL with the H. Newman Reid Trophy being consigned to be the prize for the winner of the regular season. Melbourne Ice won their first Goodall Cup, defeating the Adrenaline in the final 6–4.

Second decade (2011-19)
In 2011, the league returned to an eight-team competition with the inclusion of the Melbourne-based Mustangs IHC. The AIHL also granted a ninth team, the Perth Thunder, a provisional licence to play exhibition games during the 2011 season, to seek a vote to join the league on a full licence in 2012. Melbourne Ice went back-to-back and won the H. Newman Reid Trophy and the Goodall Cup in 2011, defeating the Newcastle Northstars in the grand final. In August 2011, the AIHL and the New Zealand Ice Hockey League (NZIHL) jointly announced the formation of the Trans-Tasman Champions League. The Champions League would feature two teams from both leagues in a round-robin format. The tournament would commence in Australia in 2012 and hosting rights would alternate between Australia and New Zealand from that point forward. After Season 2011 finished, in November 2011, at the annual general meeting (AGM), the AIHL reached consensus and announced Perth Thunder had been successful in obtaining a full league licence and would enter the AIHL proper in 2012.

Implementation of conference system
For season 2012, with the addition of a ninth team, the AIHL implemented a conference system for the first time in the league’s history. The decision was made to manage team costs and the season schedule length. The league signed a 3-year sponsorship contract with Skaters Network that included the naming rights of the two conferences. The conferences were subsequently named Bauer and Easton after ice hockey brands Bauer Hockey and Easton Hockey, two brands Skaters Network distribute. The conference restructure flowed into Finals format changes. The conference winners would draw the opposing conference’s second place finisher in the semi-finals, rather than the traditional 1v4 and 2v3. Winners of the semi’s would advance to the Goodall Cup Final as normal. To further assist with team travel costs, the AIHL signed a one-year partnership agreement with Virgin Australia to become the league’s preferred airline partner. The NSW and ACT based teams were grouped together in the Bauer Conference and the VIC, SA, WA and QLD teams were grouped together in the Easton Conference during the 2012 regular season.

Newcastle and Melbourne Ice finished top of the two conferences at the end of the 2012 regular season, with Newcastle claiming the Premiership title by a single point in the combined league table. Sydney Ice Dogs and Adelaide were runner’s up, all qualifying for Finals. The two top teams won their semi-finals to advance to the grand final decider. Melbourne ice won the grand final 4–3, thanks to Lliam Webster who scored the winning goal, over the Northstars to claim the Goodall Cup for a third straight time, completing the first three-peat in AIHL history.

In July 2012, the inaugural Trans-Tasman Champions League took place at the Icehouse in Melbourne. AIHL teams, Melbourne Ice and Newcastle North Stars, were joined by NZIHL teams, Botany Swarm and Southern Stampede for the round-robin tournament. The Melbourne Ice finished first in the standings and claimed the maiden Champions League title and trophy, beating Newcastle to the title on goal difference.

Robert Bannerman era
Ahead of the 2013 season, In February 2013, the league appointed Robert Bannerman has the new AIHL Commissioner. Bannerman was charged with improving the AIHL's revenue growth, fan development and attendance. The AIHL signed its first broadcast deal with Australian based pay-television service Fox Sports. The deal would see one game a week broadcast during the regular season on Foxtel's Fox Sports channels. The League also shrunk back to eight teams with the suspension announcement of Gold Coast Blue Tongues' AIHL licence to due the team's inability to secure a home venue agreement with a suitable rink. During the 2013 AIHL season, the Sydney Ice Dogs secured the Premiership-Championship double by finishing top of the regular season standings and winning the grand final. It was the first time the Ice Dogs had won either the H Newman Reid Trophy or Goodall Cup since 2004.

2014 saw the league experience further change. In February 2014, AIHL founding team, Canberra Knights, folded operations after 33 years with owner, John Raut, citing financial costs, lack of local player talent and sustained poor performances as the reasons for the decision. A Canberra player and community led consortium was established to keep an AIHL licence in Canberra following the Knight's collaps. After meeting AIHL licence demands in April, the consortium was successful in obtaining the Canberra licence and a new team was formed, named CBR Brave. Season 2014 produced a new Goodall Cup and Premiership winner, with the Melbourne Mustangs claiming their first league and Finals titles, defeating the Melbourne Ice in the grand final.

After the 2014 season, the AIHL made important decisions at their AGM in December 2014 to reject, for undisclosed reasons, the Central Coast Rhinos application to re-join the league and allow the Gold Coast Blue Tongues' licence to expire, after two years of suspension with the team unable to secure financing to build a proposed new rink or relocate to an appropriate alternative facility. Thus confirming the AIHL would kick off 2015 with the same eight teams from 2014.

Between 2015 and 2018, the league experienced game rule changes, exhibition matches in Queensland, the loss of the premier Sydney ice rink and team relocations. In 2015, the Sydney Ice Arena was approved for redevelopment into apartments by the owner, forcing the Sydney Bears to relocate to Penrith. The League adopted the international recognised hybrid icing rule to assist AIHL players in preparation for IIHF competition while continuing to protect players from the risks of potentially damaging collisions. In 2016, the Bears took two regular season games to Brisbane to showcase the league in Queensland for the first time since 2012. Games were held at both Iceworld Boondall and Iceworld Acacia Ridge against the Melbourne Ice. In 2017, following the completion of renovations, the Sydney Bears and Sydney Ice Dogs relocated from Penrith and Liverpool to Macquarie Ice Rink. In 2018, AIHL Commissioner, Rob Bannerman, stepped down after six years in the role. Bannerman would be relocating to the United States to pursue a career change.

David Turik era
In 2019, AIHL head of finance, Heidi Wilson, resigned from her role in the league commission. Dawn Watt was elected Deputy Commissioner and the AIHL canvased for new members. David Turik was subsequently appointed the new AIHL Commissioner.

COVID-19 season cancellations (2020-21)
During 2020 and 2021, the league suspended operations due to the outbreak of COVID-19. Different health measures and border restrictions domestically and internationally made it unviable to run seasons in 2020 and 2021. Originally in 2020 the league was suspended but it was later cancelled. In 2021, exhibition series were run instead of the league, but they were interrupted due to the ongoing outbreak. In 2021, AIHL Commissioner, David Turik, resigned from the role by “mutual agreement”, no reasons for his departure were disclosed.

Third decade (2022-present)
In 2022, the AIHL announced it would be returning to a regular season for the first time since 2019. The league released information of a new board of directors and executive team as well as the adoption of a new finals format and increase to game lengths. The AIHL would implement the international standard 60-minute games (up from 50 minutes) and expanded the finals weekend to include a preliminary final and an additional day in the schedule. The League also announced a new license holder for the Adelaide Adrenaline franchise, headed by Benny Gebert and Glen Foll. A new domestic broadcasting deal was struck with Kayo Sports that will increase the amount of AIHL content broadcast within Australia. Internationally, the league signed a three-year contract with Swiss-based multi-national Sportradar to distribute AIHL broadcasting in North America and Europe. Preparations for the 2022 season were disrupted by the withdrawals of the Perth Thunder and Adelaide Adrenaline due to continued state border restrictions and disagreements with rink management respectively. However, in February 2022, the AIHL announced the expansion of the league would take place in 2023 and followed this up with the granting of licenses to the Brisbane Lightning, headed by Ice Hockey Queensland (IHQ), and the Central Coast Rhinos, who will be returning to the league for the first time in fourteen years after originally leaving at the conclusion of the 2008 season.

Regular season
The AIHL season commences mid April and runs through to the last weekend of August or the first weekend of September. Games are usually played on Saturday or Sunday, typically starting between 2.00 pm and 5.30 pm depending on the venue.

Teams nominally play each of their seven opponents in the league four times for a total of 28 regular season games. In seasons prior to 2011, some games were played for double-points (and counted as two games) to keep travel costs down.

Match length
The length of matches has changed throughout the history of the AIHL. From inception in 2000 to 2012 matches were forty-five minutes long. From 2013 to 2019 the AIHL increased the match length to fifty minutes, consisting of two fifteen minute periods followed by a twenty-minute third period. On 11 February 2020, the AIHL announced the league would be adopting the international standard sixty minutes match length. The change increased the league's matches by ten minutes and standardised the period lengths to twenty minutes each. The change was scheduled to come into effect for the 2020 season until the season was cancelled. It was finally introduced in the 2022 season.

Overtime and points system
The points system and overtime formats used by the AIHL has developed and changed over the history of the league.

The current points system, first introduced in 2006, follows similar systems widely used in Europe. 3 points is awarded for a win, and 0 points for a loss. If a match is tied at the end of regulation time, overtime (OT) is used to guarantee a match winner. An overtime win is worth 2 points and an overtime loss is worth 1 point.

The current overtime rules deployed in the AIHL for regular season matches was introduced in 2019. At the end of regulation time there is a five-minute three on three overtime period, with the first goal winning the game. If no one scores during this OT period the match is then sent to a shootout to decide the winner and points split.

Between 2000 and 2005, the league had a then NHL style four on four five minute overtime period. If no one scored, the match was then officially recorded as a tie. In 2006 the league removed the five minute overtime period and replaced it with a shootout, meaning every match would have a winner. The shootout only system was used by the league until the end of the 2018 season.

For AIHL finals (play-offs), overtime periods are played to a regulation period length and incorporate the golden goal rule – in an overtime period, the game ends when one team scores a goal; the teams are at full strength (five skaters, barring penalties), there is no shootout, and each overtime period is 20 minutes with full intermissions between overtime periods.

Playoffs
Between 2000 and 2002 the AIHL had a single match final, known as the championship final, between the two teams who finished first and second in the regular round-robin season. In 2002, the Goodall Cup was awarded to the winner of the championship final for the first time, previously it was used as the award for the annual inter-state tournament held by IHA. In 2003, the AIHL switched to a four team playoff system, expanding the format into a 'finals weekend'. Retaining the single-match series, two semi-finals and a final would be played at a single venue over one weekend. The top four teams from the regular season qualify for the finals weekend. The two semi finals are conducted on the Saturday with 1 v 4 (semi final 1) playing first followed by 2 v 3 (semi final 2). The winners of the two semi finals advance to the final, held on the Sunday, to compete for the Goodall Cup and the AIHL Championship.

In 2022, the league expanded the finals format by adding a preliminary final and a third day to the schedule. Semi-finals are played on Friday night. The top two teams from the AIHL regular season play-off in the major semi-final for an automatic spot in the Sunday afternoon Goodall Cup final. The teams who finished third and fourth in the regular season play-off in an elimination game in the minor semi-final. The winner of the minor semi-final advances to the preliminary final to play the loser of the major semi-final. The winner of the Saturday afternoon preliminary final progresses to the Goodall Cup final and the loser is eliminated. The winner of the grand final is named AIHL Champion and lifts the historic Goodall Cup.

As of 2023, finals have been held in three different Australian states including New South Wales, South Australia and Victoria, six cities including, Sydney, Adelaide, Central Coast, Newcastle, Penrith and Melbourne and eight stadiums as detailed in the table below:

Trophies and awards

 * Goodall Cup

The champions of the AIHL are awarded the Goodall Cup, a perpetual national trophy third in age only to the Stanley Cup (1892) and the Allan Cup (1908). The Goodall Cup was incorporated into the AIHL in 2002 after the league expanded to 6 teams. The Goodall Cup is awarded to the team that wins the Finals series/playoffs weekend at the end of each season. The team that holds the Goodall Cup is considered to be the Australian champion.

The Goodall Cup was withdrawn from the AIHL in 2009 by the cup's custodians, Ice Hockey Australia. The Goodall Cup was instead awarded to South Australia in a traditional state vs state tournament held in Adelaide, South Australia in October 2009 as a 100-year celebration of the Goodall Cup.

In 2010 the Goodall Cup was offered back to the AIHL, and the cup accepted by a vote of the members and board. The Goodall Cup has been re-instated by the AIHL as its finals tournament trophy and as the prize signifying Australian champions of ice hockey.

Like in the case of the Stanley Cup, the original Goodall Cup is considered too delicate to travel and a replica is now awarded to the league champion team.

First awarded in 2015, the Mick McCormack Cup is awarded annually to the most valuable player of the Australian Ice Hockey League All-Star Game. As of 2018, the Cup was re-purposed as the award to the winning team of the Australian Ice Hockey League All-Star Game.
 * Mick McCormack Cup

The trophy is named after Australian ice hockey advocate, Mick McCormack, who is the CEO of APA Group.

Recipients of the Mick McCormack Cup include Pat O’Kane from the Melbourne Mustangs (2015), Michael Dorr of Perth Thunder (2016), and Dominic Jalbert of CBR Brave (2017). Team Rezek won the cup in 2018.

In 2009 Ice Hockey Australia withdrew the Goodall Cup from the AIHL, claiming it was instead to presented to the winning team from IHA's own tournament to be run in South Australia, celebrating the Cup's 100th anniversary since it was first awarded in a game between NSW and Victoria in 1909. Without a major trophy to present to its finals winning team, the AIHL designed and had manufactured its own unique trophy.
 * AIHL Champions Trophy

The new AIHL Champions Trophy was awarded to the 2009 AIHL Champions, the Adelaide Adrenaline following their victory in the 2009 final.

In 2010 the AIHL Champions Trophy was re-launched as the H Newman Reid Trophy, honouring the minor premiers from each season back to 2008.

 * H Newman Reid Trophy

The H Newman Reid Trophy is awarded to the regular season's minor premiers; that is, the team that finishes first overall in the standings. Reid is considered the father of ice hockey in Australia, opening Australia's first two ice rinks and employing key people who introduced Australians, including his own children, to winter sports.

The H Newman Reid Trophy was first awarded in 2010 to the Newcastle North Stars after they finished first in the regular season with 54 points.

The Reid Trophy was backdated to 2008 including minor premiers the Sydney Bears (2008) and the Newcastle North Stars (2009 & 2010).

 * V.I.P. Cup

The V.I.P. Cup was awarded to the minor premiers of each season; that is, the team that finishes first overall in the standings at the end of the regular season. The VIP cup was last awarded to the Adelaide Avalanche in 2007. The VIP Cup was not returned to the league and has been replaced by the H Newman Reid Trophy.

 * Wilson Cup

The Wilson Cup is awarded to the winner of the AIHL pre-season competition, which began in 2007 and ran again in 2008 and 2009. No Wilson Cup was run in 2010 or 2011.

All-time skater totals
Top-ten skater totals in six categories. For PPG, to qualify for the list, a player must have played a minimum 20 matches in the AIHL.

Legend:

By season totals
Top-ten season totals for skaters and goaltender in four categories. For goaltenders, to qualify for lists, a player must have played a minimum 10 AIHL matches in a season.

Legend:

Season awards
AIHL season awards are announced near or at the end of the regular season, with the Finals MVP announced after the conclusion of the Goodall Cup Final. Below is the known history of AIHL award winners. References:

Media coverage
Damien Ketlo, the 2017 save percentage leader, became a contestant on Big Brother Canada season 7 and mentioned Australian hockey in episode 22.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ruairí

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The result of the debate was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!)  08:09, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Ruairí
A dicdef of an Irish word. WP:WINAD. Already transwikied. Delete. --Dmcdevit 03:08, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Dictionary definition. DarthVader 03:25, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete dicdef. Jaxl 03:35, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete foreign dicdef. -mysekurity 05:46, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Dic def. - Mgm|(talk) 10:00, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
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Talk:Scott Brison

"Site Critical of"
Does turncoat.ca have to be on this page? It seems nothing more then a hatchet job on him. Habsfannova 03:11, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * From the looks of it, yes, it is a hatchet job (especially the POV parts, obviously). The quotations voiced there seem to be properly sourced. Looks like this site hasn't had any action since June 2004, however.  I'm guessing some bitter Tory created this site to vent his spleen, though the site  laughably claims to be "non-partisan"  (if it's non-partisan, why is he a turncoat?).  The site does seem to carry factual information, so I'm inclined to say the link should be left intact.  On 23 February 2007 the site will go away anyhow.
 * I'm surprised that "turncoat.ca" hasn't expanded its mission to include Belinda Stronach. If Brison's defection was a deep cut to the Tories, Stronach's departure was a decapitation. Cleduc 05:40, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

They did do one on Ms. Stronach...horribly sexist in my mind. On her talk page, they did a discussion and decided to remove it.Habsfannova 05:47, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's pretty vile. I don't think it's in the same vein, though -- the Stronach site doesn't seem to have any actual quotes or positions, just vicious bile.  Doesn't seem to have been made by the same people, either (or they're not as dumb as I'm sure they are).  To me it is not a valid precedent, and the link should probably stay. Cleduc 06:20, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, guess so. Habsfannova 17:27, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

The site is now dead - no response, and Google doesn't seem to be able to index it. I'm removing it now. Cleduc 17:03, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

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what's a "Young Turk" ?

 * According to the American Heritage dictionary, " A young progressive or insurgent member of an institution, movement, or political party."Habsfannova 19:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Delete from second paragraph
The portion "and was Canada's first openly gay member of Cabinet, though not the first gay Canadian Member of Parliament" should be deleted in its entirety: it's trivia. Modal Jig (talk) 15:11, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Delete --Allen3 talk 11:37, July 23, 2005 (UTC)

Digestif
A dicdef of an French (and English? Sounds familiar, but doesn't matter since it's a dicdef either way) word. WP:WINAD. Already transwikied. Delete. --Dmcdevit 03:11, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Dictionary definition. DarthVader 03:26, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete dicdef. Jaxl 03:35, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Already transwikified. -mysekurity 05:47, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * COMMENT This is an English word, meaning an alcholic beverage taken after meals. 67.68.64.81 09:49, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete dictionary definition. - Mgm|(talk) 10:01, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, notable class of drinks. Kappa 15:02, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: The article is a dictdef. The deletion guidelines are unambiguous.  A definition of "software" would also be a delete.  Geogre 18:06, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I'd love to see that vfd. Why don't you see if you can persuade the folks voting "keep" on splash conception to change their minds, according to the unambiguous guidelines. Kappa 20:23, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Granted, there are people who are encouraging people to totally forget about the deletion guidelines by insisting that they should not apply to whole classes of things, like schools, but that does not change the policy. It only makes those people untrustworthy.  Dictionary definitions are out.  Dictionaries are not encyclopedias.  That is totally unambiguous.  However, don't let that stop you from arguing passionately that nothing should be deleted. Geogre 00:04, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * It would be helpful if you didn't respond to counterexamples with personal attacks and misrepresentations. Kappa 01:37, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I am sorry that you feel that those comments applied to you and that you felt that they were attacks. I wholeheartedly encourage people who disagree with deletion existing as a function of the site to try to get the policy changed.  I wholeheartedly discourage people who do not get the policy changed to decide to disrupt deliberations by voting without regard to the policies.  Geogre 17:12, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I am not one of the people who believe that "nothing should be deleted" so your comments are misdirected. Kappa 00:46, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep per 67.68.64.81. Almafeta 21:16, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete dicdef CDC   (talk)  22:59, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete dicdef unless made into an encyclopedia article. -- Jonel | Speak 02:10, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, redirect to Digestive. Radiant_ >|< 13:37, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * These topics are unrelated. Kappa 00:46, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete, dicdef. Dcarrano 00:35, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep encyclopedic topic. VfD is not cleanup.  Grue   19:02, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand beyond a definition. See apéritif for comparison.   T h e St ev e  06:34, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
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User:Actinide

Actinide
I am a geochemist, specialising in the use of uranium-series isotopes.

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Bob Roll

Bob "Bobke" Roll (born July 7, 1960) is an American former professional cyclist, author, and television sports commentator. He was a member of the team until 1990 and competed for the  team in 1991. In 1992 Roll moved to Greg LeMond's Z team and added mountain biking to his racing accomplishments. Roll continued racing mountain bikes professionally through 1998. Roll is known in the cycling world, and to his global cable television fans, as "Bobke".

He has written Bobke: A Ride on the Wild Side of Cycling, Bobke II, and two Tour de France Companion volumes. ("Bobke" is Southern Dutch for "Bobby".) He has also had many columns published in VeloNews.

Cycling career
Roll started cycling in 1981 in his home region of Northern California. He spent two years in the States racing before heading to Belgium to race. Two years later he became a professional cyclist for : his first race was the 1985 Giro d'Italia. During the 1988 Giro d'Italia Roll's job as a domestique pushed him to the limit, causing him to pass out at the finish and his heart to stop beating.

In 1998 a young Lance Armstrong, continuing to recover from testicular cancer, had recently dropped out of the Paris–Nice cycling race. Armstrong's training coach, Chris Carmichael, invited Roll to journey to Boone, North Carolina, to talk with Lance and do training rides with the young Armstrong for several days. Armstrong was extremely discouraged by his recent European cycling results and was close to retiring. Armstrong was refocused after eight long days riding in the rain with Roll, whose tale of the ride is in Bobke II; Armstrong's is in It's Not About the Bike.

Post cycling
Roll continues to enjoy riding road and mountain bicycles for recreation, and is a member of the veteran cable television broadcasting team (along with Phil Liggett, MBE and the late Paul Sherwen) who serve as road cycling expert-commentators for the NBC Sports Network cable network's coverage of the Tour de France, Vuelta a España, Giro d'Italia, Paris–Roubaix, Tour of California, and other international cycling road races.

Roll has appeared in a series of Road ID Tour de France television commercials as himself, riding a bus along with "Tour Mania" (a costumed-disguised rowdy faux rock group played by well-known professional cyclists, such as George Hincapie).

Major results
Sources:

 * 1985
 * 10th Overall Coors Classic
 * 1st Stage 9

 * 1986
 * 1st Stage 3 Rocky Mountains Classic
 * 1st Stage 3 Vuelta de Baja California
 * 1st Stage 3 (TTT) Redlands Bicycle Classic

 * 1987
 * 1st Affoltern am Albis Criterium
 * 6th Eschborn–Frankfurt
 * 7th Overall Milk Race
 * 8th Tour du Nord-Ouest

 * 1988
 * 1st Stage 3 Tour de Romandie

 * 1990
 * 1st Stage 2 Tucson Bicycle Classic

 * 1992
 * 5th Overall Tour of the Adirondacks

 * 1997
 * 1st San Francisco Hill Climb

 * 1998
 * 1st San Francisco Hill Climb

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Talk:Locke Cole

Japanese name
I don't believe the name "Lock" is verifiable. The kana read "ROKKU". I'm changing it unless someone can prove that Lock was the intended Japanese name. Viltris 05:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Simple. "Lock" is literally ロック in katakana.  "Locke" is fine too, if we're making the assumption it's pronounced like "lock," which is a safe inference based on the kana.  You're talking like スマート wasn't meant to be "smart." urutapu 23:34, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Ideas for expansion
This article is too short. It needs to be brought up to standards so it can go to peer review with the rest of the FF characters when we get around to it. Any ideas on how to expand this without getting too fancrufty? Crazyswordsman 08:02, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Spoiler warnings
OSP, I'm sorry, but I don't agree with your removal of the spoiler warning. The Rachel/Phoenix episode takes place quite late in the game and is an important, character-developing part of the plot. I re-added the warning. -- Bakabaka 10:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * As mentioned, please disregard. I won't burn my fingers on the spoiler warning debate no more :) -- Bakabaka 08:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Why is there a "Spoilers End Here" notice without a "Spoiler Warning" one? T.J. Fuller, Jr. 15:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!)  08:27, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

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Vanity? Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 03:14, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. No doubt that this is vanity. DarthVader 03:28, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete vanity. Jaxl 03:34, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unquestionably vanity, and nn vanity at that. Plus the fact that they referenced future events, a no-no. -mysekurity 05:49, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Four people who think that inventing a collective name for themselves is all it takes for them to be notable. Delete.   — J I P | Talk 06:14, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, this is the kind of thing we should be able to speedy. the wub  "?/!"  08:02, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete self promotion. JamesBurns 09:18, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn vanity. Mrendo 11:39, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * The hopes, the dreams, the naivette, the innocence...it brings an honest, unjaded tear to my eye. Delete for the glaringly obvious reason (vanity) and for making me cry. Geogre 18:07, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. See the proposals at Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/1 and Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/2. --Carnildo 19:57, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn kid vanity. --Etacar11 23:57, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. If I had come across this I would probably have userfied it and deleted the link. It's rather nice but not encyclopedic. Not worth discussion either. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 05:03, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
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San Narciso

San Narciso (Spanish for "Saint Narcissus") is the name of two places in the Philippines:

 * San Narciso, Quezon
 * San Narciso, Zambales

 * In other uses:
 * San Narciso, Belize
 * San Narciso, a fictional Californian city in Thomas Pynchon's The Crying of Lot 49
 * 1867 San Narciso Hurricane, the costliest and deadliest storm of the 1867 Atlantic hurricane season

title: San Narciso