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User talk:Tubelius/Definitions

A
connects pre-noun ("attributive") adjectives to following nouns: "The BIG DOG chased me", "The BIG BLACK UGLY DOG chased me".

AA
is used in the construction "How [adj] a [noun] was it?". It connects the adjective to the following "a".

AF
connects adjectives to verbs in cases where the adjective is fronted, such as questions and indirect questions: "How BIG IS it?"

AL
connects a few determiners like "all" or "both" to following determiners: "ALL THE people are here".

AM
connects "as" to "much" or "many": "I don\'t go out AS MUCH now".

AN
connects noun-modifiers to following nouns: "The TAX PROPOSAL was rejected".

AZ
connects the word "as" back to certain verbs that can take "[obj] as [adj]" as a complement: "He VIEWED him AS stupid".

B
serves various functions involving relative clauses and questions. It connects transitive verbs back to their objects in relative clauses, questions, and indirect questions ("The DOG we CHASED", "WHO did you SEE?"); it also connects the main noun to the finite verb in subject-type relative clauses ("The DOG who CHASED me was black").

BI
connects forms of the verb "be" to certain idiomatic expressions: for example, cases like "He IS PRESIDENT of the company".

BT
is used with time expressions acting as fronted objects: "How many YEARS did it LAST?".

BW
connects "what" to various verbs like "think", which are not really transitive but can connect back to "what" in questions: "WHAT do you THINK?"

C
links conjunctions to subjects of subordinate clauses ("He left WHEN HE saw me"). it also links certain verbs to subjects of embedded clauses ("He SAID HE was sorry").

CC
connects clauses to following coordinating conjunctions ("SHE left BUT we stayed").

CO
connects "openers" to subjects of clauses: "APPARENTLY / ON Tuesday, THEY went to a movie".

CP
connects paraphrasing or quoting verbs to the wall (and, indirectly, to the paraphrased expression): "///// That is untrue, the spokesman SAID."

CQ
connects to auxiliaries in comparative constructions involving s-v inversion: "SHE has more money THAN DOES Joe".

CX
is used in comparative constructions where the right half of the comparative contains only an auxiliary: "She has more money THAN he DOES".

D
connects determiners to nouns: "THE DOG chased A CAT and SOME BIRDS".

DD
connects definite determiners ("the", "his") to certain things like number expressions and adjectives acting as nouns: "THE POOR", "THE TWO he mentioned".

DG
connects the word "The" with proper nouns: "the Riviera", "the Mississippi".

DP
connects possessive determiners to gerunds: "YOUR TELLING John to leave was stupid".

DT
connects determiners to nouns in idiomatic time expressions: "NEXT WEEK", "NEXT THURSDAY".

E
is used for verb-modifying adverbs which precede the verb: "He is APPARENTLY LEAVING".

EA
connects adverbs to adjectives: "She is a VERY GOOD player".

EB
connects adverbs to forms of "be" before an object or prepositional phrase: "He IS APPARENTLY a good programmer".

EC
connects adverbs to comparative adjectives: "It is MUCH BIGGER"

EE
connects adverbs to other adverbs: "He ran VERY QUICKLY".

EF
connects the word "enough" to preceding adjectives and adverbs: "He didn\'t run QUICKLY ENOUGH".

EI
connects a few adverbs to "after" and "before": "I left SOON AFTER I saw you".

EL
connects certain words to the word "else": something / everything / anything / nothing, somewhere (etc.), and someone (etc.).

EN
connects certain adverbs to expressions of quantity: "The class has NEARLY FIFTY students".

ER
is used the expression "The x-er..., the y-er...". it connects the two halfs of the expression together, via the comparative words (e.g. "The FASTER it is, the MORE they will like it").

EZ
connects certain adverbs to the word "as", like "just" and "almost": "You\'re JUST AS good as he is."

FL
connects "for" to "long": "I didn\'t wait FOR LONG".

FM
connects the preposition "from" to various other prepositions: "We heard a scream FROM INSIDE the house".

G
connects proper noun words together in series: "GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH is here."

GN
(stage 2 only) connects a proper noun to a preceding common noun which introduces it: "The ACTOR Eddie MURPHY attended the event".

H
connects "how" to "much" or "many": "HOW MUCH money do you have".

I
connects infinitive verb forms to certain words such as modal verbs and "to": "You MUST DO it", "I want TO DO it".

ID
is a special class of link-types generated by the parser, with arbitrary four-letter names (such as "IDBT"), to connect together words of idiomatic expressions such as "at_hand" and "head_of_state".

IN
connects the preposition "in" to certain time expressions: "We did it IN DECEMBER".

J
connects prepositions to their objects: "The man WITH the HAT is here".

JG
connects certain prepositions to proper-noun objects: "The Emir OF KUWAIT is here".

JQ
connects prepositions to question-word determiners in "prepositional questions": "IN WHICH room were you sleeping?"

JT
connects certain conjunctions to time-expressions like "last week": "UNTIL last WEEK, I thought she liked me".

K
connects certain verbs with particles like "in", "out", "up" and the like: "He STOOD UP and WALKED OUT".

L
connects certain determiners to superlative adjectives: "He has THE BIGGEST room".

LE
is used in comparative constructions to connect an adjective to the second half of the comparative expression beyond a complement phrase: "It is more LIKELY that Joe will go THAN that Fred will go".

LI
connects certain verbs to the preposition "like": "I FEEL LIKE a fool."

M
connects nouns to various kinds of post-noun modifiers: prepositional phrases ("The MAN WITH the hat"), participle modifiers ("The WOMAN CARRYING the box"), prepositional relatives ("The MAN TO whom I was speaking"), and other kinds.

MF
is used in the expression "Many people were injured, SOME OF THEM children".

MG
allows certain prepositions to modify proper nouns: "The EMIR OF Kuwait is here".

MV
connects verbs and adjectives to modifying phrases that follow, like adverbs ("The dog RAN QUICKLY"), prepositional phrases ("The dog RAN IN the yard"), subordinating conjunctions ("He LEFT WHEN he saw me"), comparatives, participle phrases with commas, and other things.

MX
connects modifying phrases with commas to preceding nouns: "The DOG, a POODLE, was black". "JOHN, IN a black suit, looked great".

N
connects the word "not" to preceding auxiliaries: "He DID NOT go".

ND
connects numbers with expressions that require numerical determiners: "I saw him THREE WEEKS ago".

NF
is used with NJ in idiomatic number expressions involving "of": "He lives two THIRDS OF a mile from here".

NI
is used in a few special idiomatic number phrases: "I have BETWEEN 5 AND 20 dogs".

NJ
is used with NF in idiomatic number expressions involving "of": "He lives two thirds OF a MILE from here".

NN
connects number words together in series: "FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND people live here".

NO
is used on words which have no normal linkage requirement, but need to be included in the dictionary, such as "um" and "ah".

NR
connects fraction words with superlatives: "It is the THIRD BIGGEST city in China".

NS
connects singular numbers (one, 1, a) to idiomatic expressions requiring number determiners: "I saw him ONE WEEK ago".

NT
connects "not" to "to": "I told you NOT TO come".

NW
is used in idiomatic fraction expressions: "TWO THIRDS of the students were women".

O
connects transitive verbs to their objects, direct or indirect: "She SAW ME", "I GAVE HIM the BOOK".

OD
is used for verbs like "rise" and "fall" which can take expressions of distance as complements: "It FELL five FEET".

OF
connects certain verbs and adjectives to the word "of": "She ACCUSED him OF the crime", "I\'m PROUD OF you".

ON
connectors the word "on" to dates or days of the week in time expressions: "We saw her again ON TUESDAY".

OT
is used for verbs like "last" which can take time expressions as objects: "It LASTED five HOURS".

OX
is an object connector, analogous to SF, used for special "filler" words like "it" and "there" when used as objects: "That MAKES IT unlikely that she will come".

P
connects forms of the verb "be" to various words that can be its complements: prepositions, adjectives, and passive and progressive participles: "He WAS [ ANGRY / IN the yard / CHOSEN / RUNNING ]".

PF
is used in certain questions with "be", when the complement need of "be" is satisfied by a preceding question word: "WHERE are you?", "WHEN will it BE?"

PP
connects forms of "have" with past participles: "He HAS GONE".

Q
is used in questions. It connects the wall to the auxiliary in simple yes-no questions ("///// DID you go?"); it connects the question word to the auxiliary in where-when-how questions ("WHERE DID you go").

QI
connects certain verbs and adjectives to question-words, forming indirect questions: "He WONDERED WHAT she would say".

R
connects nouns to relative clauses. In subject-type relatives, it connects to the relative pronoun ("The DOG WHO chased me was black"); in object-type relatives, it connects either to the relative pronoun or to the subject of the relative clause ("The DOG THAT we chased was black", "The DOG WE chased was black").

RS
is used in subject-type relative clauses to connect the relative pronoun to the verb: "The dog WHO CHASED me was black".

RW
connects the right-wall to the left-wall in cases where the right-wall is not needed for punctuation purposes.

S
connects subject nouns to finite verbs: "The DOG CHASED the cat": "The DOG [ IS chasing / HAS chased / WILL chase ] the cat".

SF
is a special connector used to connect "filler" subjects like "it" and "there" to finite verbs: "THERE IS a problem", "IT IS likely that he will go".

SFI
connects "filler" subjects like "it" and "there" to verbs in cases with subject-verb inversion: "IS THERE a problem?", "IS IT likely that he will go?"

SI
connects subject nouns to finite verbs in cases of subject-verb inversion: "IS JOHN coming?", "Who DID HE see?"

SX
connects "I" to special first-person verbs lke "was" and "am".

SXI
connects "I" to first-person verbs in cases of s-v inversion.

TA
is used to connect adjectives like "late" to month names: "We did it in LATE DECEMBER".

TD
connects day-of-the-week words to time expressions like "morning": "We\'ll do it MONDAY MORNING".

TH
connects words that take "that [clause]" complements with the word "that". These include verbs ("She TOLD him THAT..."), nouns ("The IDEA THAT..."), and adjectives ("We are CERTAIN THAT").

TI
is used for titles like "president", which can be used in certain cirumstances without a determiner: "AS PRESIDENT of the company, it is my decision".

TM
is used to connect month names to day numbers: "It happened on JANUARY 21".

TO
connects verbs and adjectives which take infinitival complements to the word "to": "We TRIED TO start the car", "We are EAGER TO do it".

TQ
is the determiner connector for time expressions acting as fronted objects: "How MANY YEARS did it last".

TS
connects certain verbs that can take subjunctive clauses as complements - "suggest", "require" - to the word that: "We SUGGESTED THAT he go".

TW
connects days of the week to dates in time expressions: "The meeting will be on MONDAY, JANUARY 21".

TY
is used for certain idiomatic usages of year numbers: "I saw him on January 21, 1990 ". (In this case it connects the day number to the year number.)

U
is a special connector on nouns, which is disjoined with both the determiner and subject-object connectors. It is used in idiomatic expressions like "What KIND_OF DOG did you buy?"

UN
connects the words "until" and "since" to certain time phrases like "after [clause]": "You should wait UNTIL AFTER you talk to me".

V
connects various verbs to idiomatic expressions that may be non-adjacent: "We TOOK him FOR_GRANTED", "We HELD her RESPONSIBLE".

W
connects the subjects of main clauses to the wall, in ordinary declaratives, imperatives, and most questions (except yes-no questions). It also connects coordinating conjunctions to following clauses: "We left BUT SHE stayed".

WN
connects the word "when" to time nouns like "year": "The YEAR WHEN we lived in England was wonderful".

WR
connects the word "where" to a few verbs like "put" in questions like "WHERE did you PUT it?".

X
is used with punctuation, to connect punctuation symbols either to words or to each other. For example, in this case, POODLE connects to commas on either side: "The dog, a POODLE , was black."

Y
is used in certain idiomatic time and place expressions, to connect quantity expressions to the head word of the expression: "He left three HOURS AGO", "She lives three MILES FROM the station".

YP
connects plural noun forms ending in s to "\'" in possessive constructions: "The STUDENTS \' rooms are large".

YS
connects nouns to the possessive suffix "\'s": "JOHN \'S dog is black".

Z
coennects the preposition "as" to certain verbs: "AS we EXPECTED, he was late". '

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clerical error

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was just comes under consensus to delete (9 for deletion, 5 against) -- Francs2000 | Talk 14:36, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Clerical error
If this is factually true, it belongs elsewhere, at Pearl Harbor perhaps. This is not a viable stub for an encyclopedia article. --Wetman`

 * Delete--DNicholls 07:46, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, viable stub. Kappa 13:08, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge any useful content to Pearl Harbor as this is not a logical endpoint for a search. Garglebutt 13:41, July 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a very common phrase, I don't see the argument for it not being a viable stub. --Pagrashtak 15:08, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, but eradicate unsubstantiated info. I've studied the subject a fair amount and I've never heard anything along the lines of the anecdote referenced therein. Unless someone can point to a reference for that, I'm going to excise it. Fernando Rizo T/C 17:14, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete/Merge Dictionary entry with a garbled anecdote. Assuming that PBS's research and my recall are both correct.  IIRC, the intention was to declare war with only minutes of warning, as was done at Port Arthur, and the delay was caused by the need for manual decoding, not a clerical error properly so-called.  I can put researching, sourcing and adding to the appropriate article on my personal agenda. Robert A West 19:50, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment I don't think a merge with Pearl Harbor is appropriate, as the phrase only relates to it (very) tangentially. As for an argument as to why it's not a viable stub: this is merely a phrase. It's basically a dicdef, with loosely connected information following it. Such articles seem to fall under: Wikipedia is not a dictionary (esp. list of definitions), Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information (esp. loosely associated topics), and possibly even original research (esp. secondary sources).--DNicholls 21:36, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Is it your opinion then that this article is incapable of expansion beyond the definition? --Pagrashtak 22:04, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Without slipping into the above mentioned categories, yes. --DNicholls 22:05, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's a dicdef and an only-tangentally-related anecdote that I'm sure is already part of Pearl Harbour --Carnildo 23:30, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless someone writes an encyclopedic (and non-Pearl-Harbor-related) article on clerical errors PDQ. --Angr/undefined 05:53, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. If any of it is to be included in a Pearl Harbor article it should not be redirected. -R. fiend 15:59, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a useful page, with a good definition -the removal of the Pearl Harbour example, however, may be justified. Nihiltres 21:48, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. The Pearl Harbor stuff is just nonsense.  Anyway, I think this might have a potential to be a real article but I'd need some substantial expansion beyond a dicdef to decide.--Pharos 05:07, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as not encyclopedic. - brenneman (t) (c)  03:26, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per DNicholls --Allen3 talk 09:55, August 6, 2005 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.

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Cover to Spider-Ham #1 (November 1983).

Fair use in Spider-Ham
Though this image is subject to copyright, its use is covered by the U.S. fair use laws because:
 * 1) It illustrates an educational article about the comic book from which the cover illustration was taken.
 * 2) The image is used as visual identification of the article topic's debut publication, the comic book series Marvel Tails.
 * 3) The use of the cover will not affect the value of the original work or limit the copyright holder's rights or ability to distribute the original. In particular, copies could not be used to make illegal copies of the book.
 * 4) It is a low resolution image.
 * 5) The image is only a small portion of the commercial product.
 * 6) The comic book is copyrighted, so the image is not replaceable with an uncopyrighted or freely copyrighted image of comparable educational value.

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Cayetano Ripoll

Gaietà Ripoll I Pla (Cayetano Ripoll) (1778 in allegedly from Solsona – 26 July 1826 in Valencia) was a Catalan schoolmaster. Executed for teaching deist principles, he is the last known victim of the Spanish Inquisition, although technically the Inquisition no longer existed at that time, and it was the Junta de Fe of Valencia that had him hanged by the civil authority.

Life
Ripoll was a soldier in the Spanish army during the Peninsular War (1807–1814). French forces captured him, and he was a prisoner of war. While being held, he associated with a group of Quakers and became aware of deism. He soon became a deist.

Upon returning to Spain, he used his position as a schoolmaster to teach others about deism. There, the Spanish Inquisition soon accused him of being a deist and teaching his students about deism. He was later arrested for heresy and held in jail for nearly to two years.

Accusation
The Chairman of the Board of Faith from the Diocese of Valencia, Miguel Toranzo, an inquisitor, sent to the nuncio Archbishop of Valencia a report that said Ripoll did not believe in Jesus Christ, in the mystery of the Trinity, in the Incarnation of God the Son, in the Holy Eucharist, in the Virgin Mary, in the Holy Gospels, in the infallibility of the Holy Catholic Church, or the Apostolic Roman Congregation. Ripoll did not fulfill his Easter duty. He discouraged children from reciting the 'Ave Maria Purisima' and suggested they need not bother making the sign of the cross. According to Ripoll, it was not necessary to hear Mass in order to save one's soul from damnation, and he failed to instruct them to give due reverence to the Sacraments of the Catholic Church, even the Viaticum administered for the comfort of the sick and to pardon the dying that they might resurrect into heaven.

Sentence
For his denial of the Catechism of the Catholic Church the Spanish Inquisition clergymen requested Ripoll be burnt at the stake for his religious offenses. However, the civil authority chose to hang him instead. Allegedly, the Church authorities, upset that Ripoll had not been burned at the stake, placed his body into a barrel, painted flames on it and buried it in unconsecrated ground. Other reports state that the Church authorities placed his body into a barrel and burned the barrel, throwing the ashes into a river. Ripoll is recorded as the last known person to be executed under sentence from a Church authority for having committed the act of heresy. Ripoll's famous last words were, "I die reconciled to God and man."

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This picture was taken on 6/17/05 facing Eupen main street coming from central station and walking towards the city center. The gas station sign in the right of the shot shows opening hours written first in German and then in French.

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User talk:Cjpanila

Welcome
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My Brother the Cow

My Brother the Cow is the fourth studio album by American rock band Mudhoney. It was released on Reprise Records on March 28, 1995 (see 1995 in music). My Brother the Cow includes numerous direct references to bands that influenced Mudhoney's sound. The song "F.D.K. (Fearless Doctor Killers)", for example, is a reference to the Bad Brains song "F.V.K. (Fearless Vampire Killers)". "Orange Ball-Peen Hammer" alludes to the song "Orange Claw Hammer" by Captain Beefheart, as well as containing lyrics borrowed from Led Zeppelin. "1995" is homage to the song "1969" by the Stooges, and also includes musical references to "L.A. Blues", another Stooges song.

The original CD release includes a 34-minute hidden track named "woC eht rehtorB yM", which consists of most of the album's preceding songs played backwards. Reprise re-issued the album in 2003 with bonus tracks. Tracks 13–18 of this edition were originally on a 7" single included with the vinyl LP of the album. "Not Goin' Down That Road Again" was originally the B-side of the "Generation Spokesmodel" 7" single, and is also included on March to Fuzz. The song "Into Yer Shtik" received some backlash for the band as Courtney Love thought it was about her in the wake of Kurt Cobain's death. About a month before the release of the album and on frontman Mark Arm's 33rd birthday, head of Reprise called the band's A&R rep Dave Katznelson saying he never wanted to see or speak to the band ever again. Due to the decrease in popularity of grunge at this point, the record only sold around 40,000 copies on its initial release.

In 2020, My Brother the Cow was included in the 4CD box set Real Low Vibe: Reprise Recordings 1992-1998.

Album title
According to drummer Dan Peters, the album's title derived from Renestair E.J., saxophonist of the band Bloodloss, who was "anesthetizing himself with heavy amounts of bourbon" due to girlfriend troubles. "So we stop at a drive-through," Peters said, "and he's in the back of the car, passed out. We asked him if he wanted anything, and he kinda came to enough to say, "I will not eat anything of my brother the cow." And he passed out again."

Track listing
All tracks are written by Mudhoney.

 * 1) "Judgement, Rage, Retribution and Thyme" – 2:34
 * 2) "Generation Spokesmodel" – 2:33
 * 3) "What Moves the Heart?" – 3:12
 * 4) "Today, Is a Good Day" – 3:05
 * 5) "Into Yer Shtik" – 3:48
 * 6) "In My Finest Suit" – 4:57
 * 7) "F.D.K. (Fearless Doctor Killers)" – 2:16
 * 8) "Orange Ball-Peen Hammer" – 3:21
 * 9) "Crankcase Blues" – 3:06
 * 10) "Execution Style" – 2:24
 * 11) "Dissolve" – 3:17
 * 12) "1995" – 5:43
 * 13) "woC eht rehtorB yM" (hidden track) – 33:42

2003 re-issue track listing
All tracks are written by Mudhoney.

 * 1) "Judgement, Rage, Retribution & Thyme" – 2:34
 * 2) "Generation Spokesmodel" – 2:33
 * 3) "What Moves the Heart?" – 3:12
 * 4) "Today, Is a Good Day" – 3:05
 * 5) "Into Yer Shtik" – 3:48
 * 6) "In My Finest Suit" – 4:57
 * 7) "F.D.K. (Fearless Doctor Killers)" – 2:16
 * 8) "Orange Ball-Peen Hammer" – 3:21
 * 9) "Crankcase Blues" – 3:06
 * 10) "Execution Style" – 2:24
 * 11) "Dissolve" – 3:17
 * 12) "1995" – 5:43
 * Bonus tracks
 * 1) "Mudhoney Funky Butt" – 1:24
 * 2) "West Seattle Hardcore" – 0:50
 * 3) "Sissy Bar" – 1:06
 * 4) "Carjack '94" – 1:16
 * 5) "Sailor" – 0:25
 * 6) "Small Animals" – 1:17
 * 7) "Not Goin' Down That Road Again" – 3:41

Personnel
Adapted from the album liner notes.

 * Mudhoney
 * Mark Arm – vocals, electric guitar
 * Matt Lukin – bass guitar
 * Dan Peters – drums, marimba
 * Steve Turner – electric guitar

 * Additional musicians
 * Jon Wahl – harmonica (8)
 * Renestair E.J. – tenor sax (12)

 * Technical personnel
 * Jack Endino – production, engineering
 * Howie Weinberg – mastering
 * Ed Fotheringham – artwork
 * Charles Peterson – photography

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High, middle and low justice

High, middle and low justices are notions dating from Western feudalism to indicate descending degrees of judicial power to administer justice by the maximal punishment the holders could inflict upon their subjects and other dependents.

Low justice regards the level of day-to-day civil actions, including voluntary justice, minor pleas, and petty offences generally settled by fines or light corporal punishment. It was held by many lesser authorities, including many lords of the manor, who sat in justice over the serfs, unfree tenants, and freeholders on their land. Middle justice would involve full civil and criminal jurisdiction, except for capital crimes, and notably excluding the right to pass the death penalty, torture and severe corporal punishment, which was reserved to authorities holding high justice, or the ius gladii ("right of the sword").

Pyramid of feudal justice
Although the terms high and low suggest a strict subordination, this was not quite the case; a case could often be brought in any of several courts, with the principle of "prevention" (in the etymological sense of Latin praevenire, "to come before") granting jurisdiction to the court in which the case was first filed or otherwise brought.

As a rule, each court administered justice in general (criminal cases were generally not separate from civil actions and other types of justice, while certain matters were separated such as canon law), as long as the matter was not reserved for a higher court or by virtue of some privilegium fori (e.g., of clerics to be judged in canon courts by other clergy, sometimes under ecclesiastical law, the origin of the English common-law concept—benefit of clergy). In addition to civil and criminal trials, the notion of justice also included voluntary justice, which is really the official recording of deeds (unilateral or bilateral) such as marital agreements, wills, grants, etc.

A right of appeal was not automatically available, only when explicitly established, and if so not always to a court of the superior political level or a higher degree of the trio. In fact, feudal justice was a labyrinth of specific customs and rules in nearly endless variation, not governed by any clear legal logic, and subject to significant historical evolution in time. However, the largely customary law tended by nature to be quite conservative. In judicial matters—as in all spheres of life—feudal society did not see uniformity as either possible or necessarily desirable, each town and region has its customs and ways of doing things, and resented attempts to interfere with them.

While the right of justice is held by many "unique" courts, relatively strong states make it a pillar of their absolutist (re)emergence to establish numerous courts to administer justice in their name in different territorial circumscriptions, such as the royal (high) sheriffs in England, or to impose an appeal (at least unifying the law as such) to a royal court, as to the various French provincial parlements.

High justice
High justice, also known as ius gladii ("right of the sword") or in German as Blutgerichtsbarkeit, Blutgericht (lit. "blood justice", "blood-court"; sometimes also Halsgericht, lit. "neck-justice", or peinliches Gericht ) is the highest penal authority, including capital punishment, as held by a sovereign—the sword of justice and hand of justice are regalia that symbolize it. In the early Holy Roman Empire, high justice was reserved to the king. From the 13th century, it was transferred to the king's vassals along with their fiefs. The first codification of capital punishment was the Halsgerichtsordnung passed by Maximilian I in 1499, followed in 1507 by the Constitutio Criminalis Bambergensis. Both codes formed the basis of the Constitutio Criminalis Carolina (CCC), passed in 1532 under Charles V. In the Habsburg monarchy, all regional codes were superseded by the Constitutio Criminalis Theresiana in 1768.

The Blutbanner ("blood banner") or Blutfahne ("blood flag") was a solid red flag. It was presented to feudal lords as a symbol of their power of high jurisdiction (Blutgerichtsbarkeit) together with the heraldic banner of the fief. Some feudal houses adopted a red field symbolic of the blood banner into their coat of arms, the so-called Regalienfeld. The Talschaft (forest canton) of Schwyz used the blood banner as a war flag from ca. 1240, and was later incorporated into the flag of Schwyz and the flag of Switzerland.

Often it is proudly displayed, in the form of relevant status symbols. Thus permanent gallows are often erected in prominent public places; the very word for them in French, potence, is derived from the Latin "potentia" meaning "power".

High justice is held by all states and the highest vassals in the European type of feudal society, but may also be acquired by other authorities as part of a high degree of legal autonomy, such as certain cities; which in time often obtained other high privileges originally reserved for high nobility and sometimes high clergy. Other such privileges could include a seat in a diet or a similar feudal representative assembly, before the third estate as such even aspired to such "parliamentary" representation, or the right to mint coins. These privileges indicating its so-called liberty was an "equal" enclave in the territorial jurisdiction of the neighboring feudal (temporal or ecclesiastical) Lord, sometimes even extending rather like a polis in Antiquity.

Not every Vogt held high justice. Up to the 18th century, for example, the blood court of much of what is now the canton of Zürich lay with Kyburg, even in the territory ruled by the counts of Greifensee. The self-administration of the blood court was an important factor of Imperial immediacy.

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User talk:IZAK/Archive 7

Images on PUI
IZAK, sorry about that. Usually I make very certain I have contacted the user, but forgot this time. As for the actually licence, I think there has been some misunderstanding about Public domain actually means. I don't know relevant Israeli law, but I don't think they have short copyright terms. Which means all those images are not Public Domain. The only people who produce Public Domain images today is the US federal gov. Now, we can claim fairuse on some of them, but others we need a source. If we cannot find a source, then they must be deleted as possible copyright infringment.

So to recap, if it is not explicitly licenced, then it is copyrighted. Burgundavia 13:45, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

Images on PUI
IZAK, sorry about that. Usually I make very certain I have contacted the user, but forgot this time. As for the actually licence, I think there has been some misunderstanding about Public domain actually means. I don't know relevant Israeli law, but I don't think they have short copyright terms. Which means all those images are not Public Domain. The only people who produce Public Domain images today is the US federal gov. Now, we can claim fairuse on some of them, but others we need a source. If we cannot find a source, then they must be deleted as possible copyright infringment.

So to recap, if it is not explicitly licenced, then it is copyrighted. Burgundavia 13:49, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for tagging all those images. Hopefully this clears up a lot of things. Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 00:11, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

Template: Israelis
I would like your comments on anedited template I have put together at: User:Goodoldpolonius2/israel. --Goodoldpolonius2 04:01, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi, it's too thick and wastes space (tto much spacing on the sides). The original Template:Israelis is much better (slimmer and more comprehensive), why do you want to tamper with the original? IZAK 04:57, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

LET US CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION AT: Template talk:Israelis Thanks. IZAK 05:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

 * What made you think any of that interjection was remotely necessary? Tomer TALK

Recent new creations
I doubt either Zvi Block or Tiferes Yisroel has notability. Please use VFD, I will vote there if necessary. JFW | T@lk  07:48, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

contact me
Shalom! Write to me MSN: fivetrees@yahoo.com AOL: tkadmon YahooIM: fivetrees ICQ:50416037 --Fivetrees 08:21, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Kabbalah
Thanx again for correcting me and thanx for the future! Kabbalah astrology is weak material, but maybe better than nothing. Daat is interesting, but complicated sphirot, so I'll make revision later. --Fivetrees 07:21, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * No problem, thanks you for your input to the articles. IZAK 23:50, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Various articles
Thanks for letting me know, I'll try to take a look at all of them. Meanwhile, you might be interested in Votes for deletion/Right to exist. Jayjg (talk) 02:26, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

R' Soloveitchik and beezuy talmidei chachomim
''Joseph Soloveitchik (1903 -1993) Rosh HaYeshiva (Dean) RIETS, Yeshiva University, also a famous apikorus who somehow made his way into Jewish history. He ruined the famous Soloveitchik's reputation as marbitzei Torah.''

I see that you subscribe to the conventional wisdom/rumor (spread mostly by the left and absorbed by many on the right) regarding the substance of R' Soloveitchik. This is further reflected in your article Joseph Soloveitchik, where you link R' Soloveitchik with (for example) Torah Umadda, Zionism, and Kantian philosophy, connections that are oversimplified at best. Instead of writing vague generalities about revisionalism (as I saw on the talk page of the Soloveitchik article), I'll quote from Rav Moshe Feinstein. He writes in a letter to R' Soloveitchik (regarding banning rabbinical attendance at ecumenical conventions, found in Igros Moshe Yoreh Dea'ah, chelek 3, siman 43):

 * "My dear one and my friend, the Gaon, the well-known Gadol, marbitz Torah barabim (purveyor of Torah to the public), Moreinu (our teacher) HaRav Yosef Dov Soloveitchik, shlit"a."

This sounds cliché, but "the Rav" is/was misunderstood.

If you respond, I'll be willing to continue the discussion and provide much more information. HKT 03:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Hello HKT: I must very STRONGLY PROTEST your unfounded accusations because I did not God-forbid write the disgusting words: "also a famous apikorus who somehow made his way into Jewish history. He ruined the famous Soloveitchik's reputation as marbitzei Torah" and I would never write such a thing about Rabbi Soloveitchik, ever! So please apologize ASAP! Furtheremore you are free to analyze all my contributions on the "history" for the article, see  and you can judge for yourself what I do say. I cannot be held responsible for what other editors have added or contributed because this is Wikipedia and I am involved with thousands of other articles. Each of us must choose those pages they desire to moniter most and then respond with edits and discussions when they know that their subject is being misrepresented. If you cannot function in this environment and if you are going to run around Wikipedia hurling unfounded accusations at people then I would apply to you the saying "if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen". Also, it is important for you to understand that Wikipedia is NOT a "yeshiva" but it is in many ways an open ENCYCLOPEDIA that any idiot who can write a few words can edit, so mistakes and vandalism can and do happen. Be well and stay in touch! IZAK 08:03, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * You may also want to contribute to the article yourself and insert what you know to be the truth about Rabbi Soloveitchik. IZAK 08:10, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry. I inappropriately assumed that you would've caught vandalism on your user page, though you're clearly otherwise occupied. You're right, of course, that I should have checked the history page. I do think that the article demonstates too much of a left-wing-tilted image of R' Soloveitchik, and maybe I'll get around to addressing some of that on the talk page of the article.

By the way, I appreciate the welcome message on my user:talk page. Thank you, and again I apologize. Kol Tuv. HKT 18:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC) By the way, I reread your response and I just wanted to clarify: the "famous apikores" line is not in the article but on your user page. Just so you're aware where the vandals are striking. See also other comments on the Famous Rabbis section. HKT 18:24, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Cleaned up the vandalism. HKT 21:05, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Oh, by the way: I can't just post anything that I know to be true. I would need to back that info up with recorded, public secondary sources. I'm sure I could scrounge up some such quotes, but it would probably be highly time consuming. We'll see. HKT 21:11, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Dear HKT: I would like to thank you for alerting me to the vandalism of my own User page by an anonymous vandal who seems to be on his own personal version of a "jihad" against anyone who does not agree with his view of Torah life. Pardon me if my initial reponse was overly harsh towards you, I had no idea that an idiot had attacked and changed my words. As I said, this is Wikipedia after all... IZAK 04:55, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Miscount on Votes for deletion/Right to exist
Hi IZAK. I apologize for mischaracterizing you somehow when I summarized the deletion votes. I shouldn't be doing it when I haven't slept. Thanks for the correction. moink 15:55, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * No problem, and thanks for getting back to me. IZAK 23:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Sephirah (Kabbalah)
See my edits to Sephirah (Kabbalah) and let me know what you think.--Eliezer 12:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the confidence re: me writing Kabbalistic articles Fintor 13:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC) talk

I'll look in on these articles, but not only do I have a lot of stuff I should be doing for school, Qabala is pretty low on my list of interests, so most of what I do there will probably consist of watching for typos and grammatos for now. Meantime, I'd like to flesh out my little project at User:TShilo12/Peirush as well as work more on straightening out the whole template thing we were discussing last week when I get a chance to work on it again (week after next probably) Tomer TALK 19:37, May 12, 2005 (UTC)

 * Hey IZAK, User:El_C pointed out something on my talk page...you have Netzach as "Victory", but it means "Eternity" (as in netzach netzachim). Is there some sod I've missed out on?  I'm only 33, so I haven't looked too much at qabala...  Tomer TALK  02:52, May 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Tomer, no sod just use your kop, it means both those words. Eternity=Victory, get it? IZAK 04:51, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Just curious... :-p I learned victory=nitzachon, but I suppose it's possible the two words are etymologically related.  Tomer TALK  05:06, May 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Nitzachon is used in modern Hebrew, yes. We are not talking about a short-term military-type victory at all. We are talking about the quality of "nitzchiut" when H-shem will be "victorious" in the world when it reaches a level of "Eternity" (i.e. the material world will no longer be a hindrance to His [only spiritual] Will...bayom hahu yiheye H-shem Echad ushmo echad...) In older uses you find for example the Maharal of Prague named one of his works Netzach Yisrael, meaning both its "victory" over Egypt on Pesach and then becoming an "eternal" nation on Shavuot seven weeks later when it witnesses matan Torah --- and as a paradox to understanding why Tisha Be'av is not the end but the beginning in a way, so we shouldnt allow modern-limited perspectives to cloud a language that has roamed widely and deeply and includes a variety of similar usages subject to a variety and variant language and grammatical rules and customs. And most importantly, this is an area of complex abstractions and metaphors and if one is going to be ever the narrow literalist, then forget about ever grasping some small ideas about Kabbalah, which are all one huge abstraction about an invisible inscrutable incomprehesible God that is at the center of it all. Be patient, and don't jump, literally or figuratively! IZAK 05:23, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

New article
Hey. I just created fast of the firstborn. Please check it out; it probably needs some work. I think it might be too technical, and it's also imbalanced. Thanks.HKT 21:07, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

P.S. Take a look at Phinehas (or Pinchas). The etymology seems fishy. (Also, I don't think that he was so young when he killed Zimri and Kazbi, but I'll have to double-check). HKT 21:13, 11 May 2005 (UTC) Sorry, I wrote Phineas before; these crazy spelling variations are out of control. (By the way, Phineas could use a disambiguation page).HKT 00:09, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Rabbi Yochanan
I've added a bit to the article you created on Rabbi Yochanan. I thought you might be interested in checking it out and adding/changing/deleting/commenting.  —msh210 03:18, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Abif
I took a look at Abif and left some harsh comments. Take a look. HKT 19:21, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the notice...I actually found the article a few days ago and was flabergast that such ignorance could possibly exist. I would think the article should be a {speedy-delete} candidate, given that it's entirely comprised of incoherent mumbo-jumbo, but then again, I'm a lot quicker to discern these things, apparently, than the wikigods.  If this rubbish has to go through the formality of a VfD, I'm more than happy to cast my vote in favor of deletion.  If the VfD fails, I'll lose all faith in the Wikipedia.  This article is a poster-child for why there should be a wikicabal.  You and I, of course, should head it. :-D  (shavua tov, btw)  Tomer TALK  06:42, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Tomer, thank you for your kind words, but at the moment (for me) the "shlep" of being a hard working editor here leaves me no time to get involved in "cabals" of any sort. And please do not be impatient with Wikipedia, it works for those who can follow the process, but not for those who want to "re-invent the Wiki-wheel" in a hurry. And finally, personally I do not like "speedy deletions" (only to be used in the most extreme of "emergencies"), because not only must justice be done, it must also be SEEN to be done (I can't remember where that quote comes from, but it's always true.., even in the courts of Wikipedia's cyber-tribunals). Best wishes and shavua tov! IZAK 07:10, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Template:Jewish language
You may be interested in the discussion at Template_talk:Jewish_language. Tomer TALK 17:35, May 15, 2005 (UTC)

Image
If Image:Hunter (Purim)-thumb.jpg is your property, could you indicate the copyright status on the image page? Please don't deprive Wikipedia of the image of this unusual tzaddik. JFW | T@lk  18:19, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Done, I hope GFDL is good enough. IZAK 23:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Ditto Image:Sharett_stamp.jpg -- although I cannot vouch for his tzaddikness status. Yaron 19:10, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done, it is a Stamp image. IZAK 23:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Need your opinion Nazi vs, German occupation
IZAK - let us know what you think, i.e., vote at Votes for deletion/German military occupation of Norway during World War II --Leifern 23:00, May 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks for the alert, I also tidied up some things on the Quisling disambiguation page. IZAK 23:48, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

A tale of two articles
See Chokmah (Kabbalah) and Chokhmah (Kabbalah). At a glance (nimretzes), it seems the former is the keeper. Probably requires no merge. Thanks. HKT 21:44, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi HKT, yes your assessment is correct. I combined the two, and of course the the first one is better but I redirected it to the second one's title because usually the "k" is written as "kh" (at least for middle letters at any rate) as in Halakha and Shulkhan Arukh. Thanks for the heads up. Best wishes. IZAK 08:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Deir Yassin cleanup
Mah Shlomha ahi! The Dier Yassin article needs clean up and imput from Jewish sources. I think that we can provide that imput. Would you like to help me clean up the article? Guy Montag 04:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Shalom Guy, I would love to help, but I am working on dozens of other articles right now. I suggest you start slowly and see how it goes. Please keep me informed. Thanks and Kol Tuv! IZAK 08:49, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Yehudei sheqolenique
Yehudei sheqolenique, ever heard of them? Can you look at and verify the article at all? Thanks IZAK 10:24, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
 * No, and I have no way to evaluate this without sources. -- Jmabel | Talk 16:39, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

Please use VFD if you think something is nonsense. It usually is. This one was written quite well, but a simple google test revealed that all mentions were Wikipedia mirrors. Whoever pulled this vitz probably had a good laugh. JFW | T@lk  19:14, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

 * JFW I agree! IZAK 07:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Last piece of Image copyright
Thanks for all work tagging those images. I have left several GFDL ones, as I still need a source for them. In order for them to be GFDL, you either have to have taken them, or have a release form from the photographer stating that they release it under the GFDL. Cheers. Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 04:12, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi Burgundavia, thanks for the info. The original photographer, a friend of mine, passed away over twenty years ago. So there is no way I can get a "release form". I will therefore have to provide a more appropriate tag for those photos. Thanks again. IZAK 06:54, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Cheers. That was a huge project. Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 08:50, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi Burgundavia: No kidding! It took me about three nights to wade through all of that, but it was worth it. IZAK 08:53, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome etc
Thanks for your note and the tips. Your edits on Mishpat Ivri helped me reframe the intro, and I hope it doesn't look like I merely reverted. Now, if I want to respond to or explain edits, do I do that thru your Talk or in the articles Discussion page? Also impressed by the Judaism categorization etc. Can you add Jewish ethics and related topics too? Take care, HG 09:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi HG, almost always respond to edits on the article's Talk page (to keep it relevant), and (if you want to be more certain) to make sure you are being noticed contact the other conributor/s to get their attention and respond. But keep it centrailzed on the article's talk page so that others can "join the fray" etc. As for adding "Jewish ethics" as unique category, I don't know that we have enough articles to justify it. What would you add? Remember that categories need to be as specfic as possible, so I am worried when you say "related topics", as we can't start throwing in Torah and Maimonides and Mussar movement and say Conservative Judaism just because there are sections in them that may overlap with "Jewish ethics", rather spend some time looking over things and getting acquainted for a while with the "Wikipedi culture" as they call it. Best wishes IZAK 09:51, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, and by the way, why don't insert your Email on your private settings (no-one will know what it is) and then you can receive private Emails when someone goes on your personal User page and clicks on "E-mail this user". Could you do that on my page and send me your Email address please. Thanks. IZAK 09:51, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

IDF commanders
Hi. I translated Chaim Laskov from the Hebrew wikipedia. It is pretty thorough. Danny 12:27, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you Danny! IZAK 02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi IZAK, I looked at these IDF Chiefs of Staff, but I am afraid you miscounted. Half of the six were done! ;-) Cheers, gidonb  16:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
 * No Gidon, I did not "miscount" at all, because when I contacted you and others, the six were not done for a quite a long time, and only now after I pointed it out to a few editors, have they have added new articles over the last 24 hours, as you can see from Danny's comment/s above. Either way, whatever is not done still needs to be done, whatever is left to do by now. Best wishes. IZAK 02:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 * IZAK, you missed the wink after my statement! :-) They now are all done. Mathknight and I did two, Danny and Leifern did one. I assume that Danny will take another look at the Dado article tomorrow (it's a stub). Don't be so serious. Zei gezunt! gidonb  03:02, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry Gidon old chap, I havn't looked at the articles yet to know what's up, so I just replied based what was flying 24 hours ago. Well, at least the job got moving, which was my only intention, so the "count" was not important to me (it was just a way of getting people's attention, which worked!). I am not half as brilliant as I seem ;-) All the best IZAK 03:08, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Considering the fact that you had so many people working for you yesterday, I would conclude that sometimes you don't seem half as brilliant as you are! ;-) gidonb  17:51, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Whatever. IZAK 08:55, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi, IZAK. I started filling in the Dado article and will do more when I get home from work. For some strange reason, I got logged off while I was editing, so the edit is anonymous. The article really brings back memories, and I can see the potential for a lot of interesting articles stemming from it. Danny 11:40, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi, just wanted to let you know that I finished translating Dado. I will probably work on Gorodish next. By the way, I am curious to hear your response to what I did to the article Amoz. Danny

 * Thank you Danny, I will. IZAK 08:55, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, IZAK. On an unrelated Israel topic, I also did Hanna Rovina and Tel Afek last night. I am also curious to hear your comments on Amoz. Danny 19:57, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Danny, I looked at the articles, but I cannot comment on any specific details without looking at the specific meforshim myself, so therefore, for now things stay as they are in the article. IZAK 18:19, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Wikiportal/Israel
Hi IZAK (and everyone else here :), Do you think it's time to create Wikiportal/Israel similar to Wikiportal/India, Wikiportal/New Zealand and other Category:Wikiportals? I'm writing this here because it was you who made those wonderful templates and we don't have a portal yet where we could communicate. What do you think? ←Humus sapiens←Talk 05:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi Humus, it's only me here, but I will pass your message on to "everyone". Yes, your suggestion is excellent, it is certainly time for what you describe, but I have no experience with Wikipedia portals, and if you know how, go ahead and start an Israel portal and I am sure editors of Israel-related articles will support you and join in the effort/s. Behatzlachah. IZAK 05:33, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Heya. I'll look into the Wikiportal/Israel project, but no, to answer your question, it's completely different from what I was envisioning. Portals are for "personalizing" the look and feel of the website so that you can have things where you want them. They can also be used to "promote" (in an interest sense, not an economic sense) certain information. Theoretically there could be a Wikiportal/Judaism, but the only people I would foresee wanting to use it are Charedim. Tomer TALK 13:56, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your note(s). The portal looks terrific but I would rather just have a slightly customized version of the Main or Community pages. E.g., with the log in boxes integrated in the portal, my favorite links, Israel news, etc. Like a customized my.yahoo page. Sorry to sound so pedestrian. HG 07:17, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi IZAK & Co, consider youself invited to WP:WNBI, spread the word. Good idea by HG above, but I've no idea how to do it in this framework.  ←Humus sapiens←Talk 09:33, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Alternative claims of Jew, Judaism and Israelite and Alternative Judaism
User:Sirkumsize is suggesting these articles should be merged with Jewish denominations; I thought you might want to comment. Jayjg (talk) 21:04, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Dear Jay, thank you for bringing these articles to my attention. I have done some NPOV work on the first article, now for the second... IZAK 08:55, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

New Article
On IDF Major-General Meir Zorea. Take a look. Kol Tuv. HKT 23:51, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi HKT: Nice job, I have just proof-read it and added some wiki links. Be well. IZAK 21:11, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

History of Kibbutz Movement
IZAK, I do not believe that a separate article on the history of the kibbutz movement is needed. The Kibbutz article has already been made a FA, so the consensus is that the article is very good. The Kibbutz article is mostly historical, so if you cut out the history sections there would be nothing left. I'm sure that the article on the history of the Jews of Russia and Poland could expanded though. Dinopup 17:17, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Dino, I respectfully disagree, because at 66k, the article exceeded Wikipedia standards for articles by being double in size. Many long articles relating to Israel eventually are divided up this way. It happened to the Israel article, see all its spin-offs, to the Israel Defense Forces article, see all its spin-offs, to Hebrew languages, and at a few other places such as the Jew article, and the list goes on... So I do NOT see your point either on technical or stylistic grounds. IZAK 17:45, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Biblical Patriarch Dynasties
From what I can tell it is pure Zestauferov original research that should be placed on VfD. Jayjg (talk) 20:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Tee-hee, be my guest... IZAK 20:54, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Is this a joke?! The article should be deleted and any worthwhile information should be integrated into wiki Genesis (or elsewhere). HKT 21:19, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Joke? No! We used to have a contributor called "Zestauferov" and he used to invent this kind of stuff all the time. In my constant efforts to categorize Jewish-related articles I uncover some long hidden "gems" from time to time, and this is one of them...but you never know, Zest may return one day and flood us with his "contributions" yet again... hang in there, Shabbes is coming... IZAK 22:03, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Indeed. :-/ HKT
 * In fairness to Zestauferov, I noticed that he admitted that the article was inappropriate, but he couldn't find anywhere else to put the information. In related news, look at Jehoshua Movement (a poor, nearly incoherent stub, apparently referring to (or attempting to refer to) Paul's involvement in Early Christianity (according to Rav Ya'akov Emden)). Your thoughts? HKT 00:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * My thoughts? Here goes: "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World"...I think that sums up how I feel at this moment in time... IZAK 01:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Speaking of mad, looks like I'm dealing with some revisionist Poles on Talk:Abraham ben Abraham. Have fun. HKT 01:49, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I added some points. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. IZAK 02:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi
I just sent you an e-mail about that new category. Please respond soon. HKT 03:50, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi HKT: I have replied, check your Email. Thanks. IZAK 01:00, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Hebrew Bible Category
Ok, you've asked for it! Please give me feedback on my long posting on the discussion page of the Category. Kol tuv, HG 05:21, 26 May 2005 (UTC) PS My posting didn't end up with a heading, I think. Can you add one for me?

 * Hi HG: I think you misunderstood my intent. The issue is not what "to do" with the category (Category:Hebrew Bible verses) because categories are not there for anything to be be "done" with or in them. Rather, my intent was to bring your attention to the two articles in that category already and what to do with the articles about specfic verses, which so far only includes Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. So I have gone ahead and posted your lengthy suggestions at Talk:Genesis 1:1 which is where it should have been put in the first place. Thanks for taking the time to think about this and responding. IZAK 00:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Bible Verses
Hi IZAK. Firstly, apologies for not responding to your announcements about votes some months ago but I haven't been editing for almost a year and specifically did not want to get involved in the heated arguments, revert wars etc that have been springing up. I know often you're correct in your take on these but knowing me (now that I've decided to start editing a bit again) if I see many more of these, I know I'll stop editing again out of sheer annoyance at the largely pointless nature of these debates. So don't take it the wrong way if I don't participate in these activities - I want to get back to contributing but in my style looking for content over argument.

In terms of the Bible verses articles (a perfect eg of a content issue!), my opinion (to get some list of opinions started) is that they are a waste of time/space on Wikipedia. Something like this belongs more on Wikisource, as it is in essence the presentation of an extended primary text with detailed information about every part (assuming people add more verses...) - I saw a large article which did not contain much information that can't be found in other Wikipedia articles - and yet it covered so little of what could be said about the verse. If this keeps going, it will engulf Wikipedia. On Wikisource though, something in the style of the Mishna project (with user contributed public domain translations) and concise summaries of commentaries, the uses of the verse in Jewish texts etc would be a good idea and I'd probably like to contribute to those. As it stands, I think deletion or relocation to Wikisource is the way to go. Frikle 11:47, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi Frikle, thanks for your serious reply. I hope you don't mind, but because of the vote at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Genesis 1:1 taking place right now, I am going to post your last paragraph in its entirety over there since you present a serious counter-option. Thanks again! IZAK 01:18, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Walentyn Potocki
Please check the talk page of his article. So far we have sources (the Jewish Encyclopedia from 1970, the Moskal article from 2001 and Tabzir article from 2003), which claim there is no evidence for this tale. While I personally don't know the Jewish Encyclopedia, it looks like a rather NPOV source for Jewish matters (perhaps you have a newer edition yourself?), and the Tabzir article has appeared in a peer-reviewed, academic journal, and he clearly states it is fiction. As I wrote in Talk, I'd love to see a paragraph on Jewish oral tradition added to the article, however, it is - so far - evident, that the belief his story is true is based upon oral tradition only and there is no evidence besides it proving this story. Of course, you are more then welcome to counter this with academic publications proving otherwise - I have not been able to find any in Polish in English, but perhaps you can find some in Hebrew? See also The Bible and history and articles on Jesus, Moses and other religious semi-mythical figures, which do show both sides - this is supposed to be a NPOV encyclopedia, after all. PS. If you do reply, plz copy your reply to my talk page, I am not likely to check your talk page again until I have sth to say again :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 09:20, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Tnx for the reply. I gave the Jesus/Moses example to show that it is possible to rach NPOV on religious issues. They are always tricky, because sometimes belief is not easily NPOVed. As for Potocki case, I don't think it has anything to do with the Holocaust Denial. As for Catholic Church in Poland - in Zwoje article, Moskal discusses the possibility the story might have been erased by the Church and/or Potocki family themself, but he concludes it is unlikely. One has to remember PLC was a very free country, and it would be next to impossible to hush such a story - burning of a noble. If he was killed in a duel, or imprisoned for many years, then it could have been silenced - because it wouldn't be interseting - but that of course would disprove the very story. And you have to remember that although Catholic Church was dominant in Poland, it had no absolute power. The PLC extensive religious tolerance meant there were many Protstant and Orthodox, with their own printing presses - somehow I thnk they would love to popularise the story of Inquisiting buring a noble if it did happen. Finally, there is the issue of countries beyond PLC - they often made propaganda use of any PLC internal troubles, inlcuding any religious trouble, to popularise the image of 'anarchy state'. Again, it is strange there would be no sources trumpeting the barbarian Poles burning a member of powerful family... Now, of course, neither of this proves decisivly that the story was false, but there is not a single evidence it is true, neither. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:21, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Category:Hebrew Bible verses
OK, I'll try to look. --Fivetrees 10:46, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

FYI -- I revised Genesis 1:1 in line with my view to keep it. Thought you should know, I'd like to hear your thoughts about the changes. HG 17:09, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

IZAK -- Have been away for awhile and see that you've made terrific changes with Gen 1.1. Good for you! I had felt frustrated w/the process, as you might imagine. Also, I started a blog :)    Take care, HG 07:31, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Joseph's Tomb
Take a look at this stub. For a Jewish religous site, it has very little coverage. I would like to see some better source and material there and I think you would be perfect for the task. Mwssage me if you are interested.

Guy Montag 07:05, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Banu Qurayza
I'd be interested in your thoughts, and if you have time, your help in editing. --Briangotts 02:34, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Dear Brian: Very fascinating article, I did some minor edits, and too bad that it's being "totally disputed" but obviously pro-Arabian Muslim writers will not like it (they only like articles that say nice things about them...oh well...) I will let some other editors know. Thanks for keeping me informed and keep up the godd work. IZAK 03:20, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi, I appreciate the opportunity to help, but I'm afraid Banu Qurayza is too far outside my area of expertise for me to be of much use. -- BD2412 talk 02:03, 2005 Jun 1 (UTC)

Vandalism
IZAK, this is fairly urgent. I tried to post the following message on User:jayjg's talk page:
 *  should be blocked quickly. He's on a vandalism spree. -Anonymous 21:38, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

However, the vandal somehow hacked Wikipedia and the edit history holds me responsible for his latest hack of jayjg's talk page. Moreover, my message was somehow never posted. The vandal has repeatedly aired his hostile intentions. Two users warned him on his talk page, but he is unresponsive. Please do what you can. 4.241.36.46 21:48, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * The history seems to have been sorted out, but I'm still noticing anomalies in 's wake. 4.241.36.46 21:53, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

From Danny
Hi. You may wanna check out some of my work today. Moshe and Joseph Kimhi are new, and I expanded the RaDaK article David Kimhi. I also did Shlomo Ben Yoseph and a bunch of kibbutzim and moshavim. Most of it was translation work from Hebrew, though a few of the places are original. Danny 23:15, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi IZAK, I sent you an email. Also, can you take a look at the Encyclopedia Britannica list collaboration of the week 2004 Encyclopedia topics/24. There are some Jewish topics there that need attention, i.e., Sidra. Last week we missed on Musaf, and there are plenty of other topics you might be interested in--the last list, p. 28, has Yizkor. Danny 01:39, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Hello Danny: Yes I did receive your Email and I replied (via Email), I also forwarded your ideas about the Wikisource project to a few others who hopefully will be in touch with you. Thank you for bringing the above articles to my attention, I just don't know if I can get to all of them in time. Best wishes, IZAK 01:51, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hanoar Hatzioni
Hello Izak. The Hanoar Hatzioni article was deleted for Copyvio. It is true that most of the info came from the Hanoar Hatzoni web site, although I tried editing what I could. I think wikipedia deserves an article on Hanoar Hatzioni. What can be done here?--AAAAA 02:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * AAAAA: Sorry to hear that has happened. the only way to deal with is to research your topic again and re-write it without taking large verbatim quotes. Small/short quotes should be acknowledged, like so and or longer/larger quotes may be used and cited, in the following fashion:

 * AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

So please do not be intimidated. Take the effort to completely rewrite the article and see if you can use a few other sources and cite them as well. Hope this helps, and keep up your good work! IZAK 02:28, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Hello again, Izak. I just made a small entry here: Hanoar Hatzioni/Temp.  Could you help or tell anybody you know that knows about this to add to it?--AAAAA 12:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for tip
Hi Izak. I put in an email address so you (and others) can write. I can guess the topic. :) I hesitated to put in the email because of lack of confidence in confidentiality, so to speak. Take care, good luck w/everything, kol tuv, HG 02:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC) PS sorry for taking up a new section on your Talk page. Should I have added it to a previous one?

 * HG: You are doing great! Of course you must add new sections to anyone's talk page if it's a totally new message that you want to start, so again, you are doing great!. IZAK 02:58, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I've petitioned for arbitration against Yuber

I hope you join in the commentary against him.

Guy Montag 07:37, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Proposal to merge Occupations of Palestine
There is currently a proposal to merge Occupations of Palestine with History of Palestine. Since you have done extensive work on this article, I thought you might want to comment. You'll find the discussion at Talk:Occupations of Palestine. Jayjg (talk) 19:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Concerning User:Rabbis and User:Cantors
Where did he make the threat to go to the ADL? As fas as I am concerned, these joke cantors should have been deleted long ago. In fact, I deleted them a couple of times already. Danny 00:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Check the block log. One year for making legal threats. Danny 01:36, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Next time one of them shows up I will make their lives miserable. Danny 02:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

lots of edits, not an admin
Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:44, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

 * Dear Rick, thank you for thinking of me. I do not wish to be an admin at this time. Thanks again and be well! IZAK 03:18, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

dunams
Isn't it sufficient to leave the description of "dunam" to dunam rather than putting its equivalence into every article that uses the term? I'm not making an accusation, just an observation about your most recent edit to Jaffa, Israel. Tomer TALK 11:01, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

 * I was just trying to be helpful to any readers who don't know what a "dooonim" is and are too lazy to look it up. It's not that important really. IZAK 11:16, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Kerry a Loew?!
I noticed your recent Maharal edit. Some background: Moravian historian Jaroslav Bransky claimed that there is strong evidence to indicate that Kerry is descended from the Maharal's older brother, Sinai. However, Tomas Kraus, head of the Czech Federation of Jewish Communities, after looking into Bransky's claim, dismissed it as "not much more than speculation." Bransky himself admitted that his research had holes. (However, I don't see why a scholar of Judaism would be required to confirm such a claim). Anyway, even if Kerry was somehow related to the Maharal, I (for one) wouldn't consider it worthy of mention in the Maharal article. HKT 18:42, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Vandal
Just for some context on 's recent "edits" to Judaism: He/she has left a number of unsourced anti-Zionist/anti-Semetic edits in his/her wake, and he/she recently vandalized User talk:PedanticallySpeaking with obscenities. No need to cater to this vandal's whims. In fact, the vandal has already been warned (in a sense) on his/her talk page, and should be blocked if he/she vandalizes again. Check out the vandal's contribs (Zionist terrorism, etc.). HKT 23:22, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the info, and he is also a nut. Have a good Shabbes. IZAK 23:39, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Category:Causes célèbres
I notice you added Menahem Mendel Beilis to this category. It's been voted for deletion but I am trying to save it. Please come to Votes for undeletion to express your view. David | Talk 17:31, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi David, seems you have contacted me too late, as the vote has just been closed off (see Categories for deletion/Log/2005 June 11) even though there had once been a similar vote and the consensus was to keep, so go figure. Best wishes. IZAK 03:20, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I only noticed the deletion debate a few hours before the deadline. However things are not all gone - I have proposed it on WP:VFU where it is doing significantly better. David | Talk 16:29, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Radhanite
I've placed the Radhanite article up for peer review. Your comments and criticism would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! --Briangotts 19:41, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United States Senate Simulation (USSS)

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The result of the debate was Delete. Deletion carried out by Woohookitty. android 79  05:35, August 6, 2005 (UTC)

United States Senate Simulation (USSS)
nn game. vanity. ~100 google hits. DNicholls 07:44, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. NN game.--Maustrauser 07:46, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as above cohesion | talk 07:48, July 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete but possible to ehance Government simulation instead. Eclipsed 07:57, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I vote delete. I'm exercising my non-simulated senatorial authority. Mmmbeer 21:15, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Filibuster, oh wait. This isn't a simulation ;-P delete. Karmafist 05:58, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

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Thomas Sanchez

Tomás Sánchez (1550 – 19 May 1610) was a 16th-century Spanish Jesuit and famous casuist.

Life
In 1567 he entered the Society of Jesus. He was at first refused admittance on account of an impediment in his speech; however, after imploring delivery from this impediment before a picture of Mary at Córdoba, Spain, his application was granted. For a time he was the Master of Novices at Granada. The remainder of his life was devoted to the composition of his works. He died of pneumonia.

His contemporaries bear testimony to the energy and perseverance with which he laboured towards self-perfection from his novitiate until his death. His penitential zeal rivalled that of the early anchorites, and, according to his spiritual director, he carried his baptismal innocence to the grave. Luis de la Puente, then rector of the college of Granada and later declared "venerable", attests the holiness of Sanchez in his letter to Francisco Suárez, a translation of which may be found in the Bibliothèque de Bourgogne at Brussels.

Works and condemnation
The chief work of Sanchez (and the only one that he himself edited) is the Disputationes de sancto matrimonii sacramento. The first edition is said to have appeared at Genoa in 1602; but this can have been only the first folio volume, for which permission to print was secured in 1599, as the two succeeding volumes contain both in their preface and the author's dedication the date 1603. The first complete edition was, according to Sommervogel, that of Madrid, 1605; later followed a series of editions printed at different places both before and after the author's death. The last edition seems to have been issued at Venice in 1754.

Some editions of the third volume have been placed on the Index of Prohibited Books, the grounds being not the doctrine of the author, but the supposed perversion of the work and suppression of what the author taught. Even in the earlier editions of the Index as revised by Leo XIII, until his Constitution "Officorum ac munerum", there appears: "Sanchez, Thom. Disputationum de Sacramento Matrimonii tom. III. Ed. Venetiae, sive alarium, a quibus 1.8 disp. 7 detractus est integer num. 4. Decr. 4 Febr. 1627."

This number is omitted from the edition of Venice, 1614; it treats of the power of the pope to grant a valid legitimation of the offspring of marriages invalid only through canon law through the so-called sanatio in radice.

Soon after the death of Sanchez a second work appeared. Opus morale in præcepta Decalogi; the first folio volume was prepared by the author himself, but the second volume, as well as the whole of his third work, Consilia moralia, had to be compiled from manuscript notes. These works also went through a series of different editions, and likewise drew upon themselves the accusation of laxity, especially with reference to the question of what is called "mental reservation" (restrictio mentalis). Blaise Pascal in particular criticized him in his Provincial Letters.

Of the 26 thesis condemned by Pope Innocent XI, several were in Sanchez's works (see op. mor. in præc. Decalogi, III, vi, n. 15). One of them stated:

If anyone, by himself, or before others, whether under examination or of his own accord, whether for amusement or for any other purpose, should swear that he has not done something which he has really done, having in mind something else which he has not done, or some way of doing it other than the way he employed, or anything else that is true: he does not lie nor perjure himself.

According to Franz Xavier Wernz, Sanchez's work De matrimonio was reckoned by the Roman Curia among the classical works on marriage.

Sanchez advocated for the missionary position for sexual intercourse, calling it the "natural manner" and claiming that "this manner is more appropriate for the effusion of the male seed, for its reception into the female vessel."

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vladimir Sklenar

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The result of the debate was delete -- Francs2000 | Talk 14:39, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Vladimir Sklenar
Does not seem notable. Neither the article or the links suggest it, at least to me. I've asked the folks at WikiProject Chemistry if they know anything about him. Hopefully they will chime in here. It's also only by one, anon, author, in 2003. And unchanged since then. Delete JesseW 07:46, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Full professor in a country that does give that title easily... Still, it is very hard for the average reader to guage anything from this article—it needs soooo much work, including writing the necessary articles to explain his research interests. I'll go for delete unless substantially improved. Physchim62 11:05, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete at the moment, but I suspect that the article will be recreated once Wikipedia contains a critical amount of information to properly describe the research interests of this person. --HappyCamper 12:46, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, please. ~K 15:20, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Neutral. There are plenty of chemistry professors with an article in WikiPedia, who I have never heard of. I can't tell just whether professor Sklenar would be less important than, e.g., John Markoff (professor), William Goldman (professor), David Cain (professor) and Professor Ronald MacDonald and all those others. Wim van Dorst 21:37, 26 July 2005 (UTC).
 * Comment Ug. Well, the idea of Wikipedia is that you should be able to tell they are important, that's the point of requiring notablity.  However, this article is clearly no more clear about notablity than any of those.  I don't know whether to vfd all of them, or change my vote on this one to keep.  Ug.  On the other hand, its better to know; so, thanks so much! ;-) JesseW 00:33, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * That is not the idea of wikipedia, and neither is "notability". Wikipedia is a collaboration, and editors should be able to add significant information without having to jump through hoops to prove how "notable" everything is. Kappa 06:04, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, full professor, per Phsychim62 assessment. Kappa 23:15, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep if expanded. Some notability. JamesBurns 09:08, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Being a chemist in itself doesn't cut it. If the article is expanded and shows why exactly this guy deserves mention in an encyclopedia any more than the next guy I might change my vote. -R. fiend 16:01, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete I met the guy at a conference. He contributed a lot, but not anything of encyclopaedic magnitude. --62.254.128.5 21:42, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coon (disambiguation)

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The result of the debate was Keep. NSR (talk) 13:33, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Coon (disambiguation)

 * Delete. This is not a disambiguation page for various Wikipedia articles Coon, merely a sly chance to air a slur. --Wetman 07:48, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. I rewrote it some (and made the ethnic slur wikilink go to ethnic slur, not the list--edit:blast, guess it goes to that anyway). I have to respectfully disagree. Even if it was, just because it isn't pleasant doesn't mean it isn't the case. The first two versions of the word are in current use, at least, and the last is an actual brand.--DNicholls 08:00, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Alternatively, concerning the redirect of coon to raccoon, we could make raccoon the first choice (redirect) and include there a link to the disambig page. Although it might do to consult on that talk page first.--DNicholls 08:06, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep all those terms are uses of the word. I agree that Raccoon should be the first choice as per DNicholls. Hamster Sandwich 08:36, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep in light of DNicholls' edit. Fernando Rizo T/C 10:31, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep I created this disambiguation article specifically because there was a comment on Coon cheese in the nigger article without any background on its validity as a trademark and it has been a subject of occasional debate in Australia. I don't agree with having Raccoon be the first choice however as I've never even heard of that abbreviation until now. (The US is not the centre of the universe guys!) I would argue that very few people would search for Coon to find Raccoon. I vote for leaving the article as is in terms of linkage. Garglebutt 11:45, July 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Re the 'coon' equal or not equal to 'raccoon', what about the word/phrase 'coon dog' ? To which meaning do you imagine it refers ? --Simon Cursitor 09:09, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep on the light of the recent edits.-Poli (talk • contribs) 14:42, 2005 July 26 (UTC)
 * Keep useful disambiguation. Capitalistroadster 18:13, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Looks like a pretty standard disambig page to me. slambo 18:34, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Those unfamiliar with this term could easily be confused by a reference to it, and turn to Wikipedia for help. -leigh (φθόγγος) 21:15, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Move to Coon. I'm under the impression that in the absence of a "main entry" article, dab pages should go without the "(disambiguation)" notice in the title, rather than having what we have here — Coon redirecting to Coon (disambiguation). (But certainly keep, as a useful dab, regardless of ethnic-slur-ness. Heck, the dab page for Hebe mentions it as one spelling of "heeb"!) --Quuxplusone 02:06, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

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Los Trancos Open Space Preserve

Los Trancos Open Space Preserve is a 274-acre (1.11 km2) open space preserve, located in San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties, California, near Los Altos Hills, California. The preserve contains about 5 miles (8 km) of hiking trails, of which 2.1 miles (3.4 km) are open to equestrians, and none are open to bicycles. The area was once a part of a 13,300 acre (53.8 km2) rancho. The preserve's acreage was purchased by state senator Louis Oneal in the early 1900s, who raised horses there. It was sold to a developer in the 1950s. Power and water lines were run to the property in the 1960s, but development was abandoned when the city of Palo Alto discovered the high cost of providing city services to the area. The preserve was acquired by the Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District in 1976.

While the preserve is relatively small compared to other preserves and parks in the area, it has one notable feature: about one mile (1.5 km) of the San Andreas Fault runs underneath it. Several series of markers throughout the preserve indicate where the ground has broken during various earthquakes.

Additionally, a 1.5-mile (2.4 km) trail follows the main break caused by the 1906 San Francisco earthquake. This trail includes several interpretive stations that point out various quake-caused features and phenomenon. Guided "quake walks" are held about once a month.

Just northwest of Page Mill Road, the preserve protects the headwaters of Los Trancos Creek, a tributary of San Francisquito Creek.

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