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Portal:Aviation/Anniversaries/August 13

August 13

 * 2012 – An Internet video is released showing the crash of what appears to be a Syrian Air Force MiG-23 (NATO reporting name "Flogger") aircraft flying over Muhasan, Syria. Syrian rebels claim to have shot it down.

 * 2010 – AIRES Flight 8250, operated by Boeing 737-73 V HK-4682, crashes short of the runway at Gustavo Rojas Pinilla International Airport, San Andrés, Colombia and breaks into three sections. One passenger dies from a heart attack following the accident. The other 124 passengers and six crew survive.

 * 2010 – Regional Spanish airline Andalus Lineas Aereas ceases operations.

 * 2004 – Air Tahoma Flight 185, a Convair 580, crashes near Covington, Kentucky while descending to land, killing the First Officer.

 * 2002 – Midway Airlines (1993–2003) files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

 * 1989 – Alice Springs hot air balloon crash: Two hot air balloons collided near Alice Springs, Northern Territory, Australia, causing one to crash to the ground, killing thirteen people.

 * 1981 – The G-ASWI North Sea ditching of a Bristow Helicopters Westland Wessex due to engine failure kills all 13 on board.

 * 1976 – The Bell Model 222, the first twin-engined light commercial helicopter, developed in the United States, makes its first flight, powered by the 650 SHP Avco Lycoming LTS 101-650 C.

 * 1973 – Aviaco Flight 118, a Sud Caravelle, en route from Madrid to A Coruña crashes while approaching A Coruña Alvedro airport, in Montrove, 2 km from the airport; all 85 on board died, and 1 on the ground.

 * 1968 – Swedish Count Gustav von Rosen defies Nigerian air defences to fly in supplies to the Biafran rebels

 * 1962 – First flight of the British Aerospace 125

 * 1951 – A Boeing B-50D-110-BO Superfortress, 49-0268, on test flight out of Boeing Field, Seattle, Washington after modifications, suffers problems immediately after take off, fails to gain altitude, comes down two miles (3 km) N of field, clipping roof of a brewery with the starboard wing, cartwheels into wooden Lester Apartments, wreckage and structure burns for hours. Six on bomber (three Air Force crew, three Boeing employees) and five on ground die.

 * 1945 – Carrier aircraft of Task Force 38 strike the Tokyo area, claiming 272 Japanese aircraft destroyed and 149 damaged.

 * 1945 – (Overnight) Seven B-29 Superfortresses drop five million leaflets over Tokyo, providing the Japanese population for the first time with the news that Japan had accepted the Potsdam Declaration and was negotiating for peace.

 * 1944 – Focke-Wulf Fw 190C V30 prototype, Werke Nummer 0055, modified to Fw 190 V30/U1 as prototype for Ta 152H-0, rebuilt with Fw 190D 1,750 hp (1,300 kW) Jumo 213A-1 power egg, but without new wingtanks, crashes this date on flight out of Langenhagen after only one week of testing. First flown in new guise on 6 August

 * 1943 – The USAAF makes its first bombing raid on Austria

 * 1942 – Attacking the Pedestal convoy, Axis aircraft sink two more cargo ships and inflict additional damage on a tanker.

 * 1940 – A Royal Australian Air Force Lockheed Hudson crashes near Canberra, Australia, killing all 10 people on board. Among the dead are Geoffrey Street, Australian Minister of Defence and Repatriation; James Fairbairn, Australian Minister for Air and Civil Aviation; Sir Henry Gullett, Australian Vice-President of the Executive Council and Minister in Charge of Scientific and Industrial Research; and General Sir Brudenell White, Australian Chief of the General Staff.

 * 1939 – First flight of the Vickers Warwick

 * 1937 – Entered Service: Sikorsky XPBS-1

 * 1936 – A Nationalist air raid off Málaga damages the Republican battleship Jaime I.

 * 1932 – First flight of the Gee Bee Model R

 * 1918 – Jarvis Jennes Offutt (1894–1918), becomes the first fatality among natives of Omaha, Nebraska in World War I, when his S.E.5 crashed during a training flight near Valheureux, France, and succumbs to his injuries. The Flying Field, Fort George Crook, Nebraska renamed Offutt Field, 6 May 1924.

 * 1914 – The first British airplane to reach French soil after mobilization is a BE2a, serial number 327, flown by Capt. F. F. Waldron and Air Mechanic Skerritt of No. 2 Sqdr. RFC commanded by Maj. C. J. Burke.

 * 1914 – A Royal Aircraft Factory BE.2 becomes the first British aircraft to arrive in France for the war.

 * 1912 – During air-ground maneuvers held by the U.S. Army, at Stratford, Connecticut, Pvt. Beckwith Havens of the New York National Guard suffers engine failure in a Curtiss biplane at about 1000 ft (300 m) over a crowded parade ground, narrowly misses spectators and a cavalry troop as he swoops down, glides down the field and collides with a Burgess-Wright biplane that had just been flown by Lt. Benjamin Foulois, breaking off its tail. No injuries reported, and both aircraft are taken to hangars for repair.

 * 1909 – Baddeck No. 1, Canada's second aircraft, is wrecked at Petawawa, Ontario. The pilot, JAD McCurdy, survived.

 * 1824 – The first aerial ascent by a Native American as a passenger, Chief Waschisabe, in Dupuis-Delcourt's balloon “flotilla” takes place at Montjean, France.

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Talk:Birthday cake

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Can't hold a candle to me
When were candles first added to cakes? Trekphiler 23:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd like to know why. It's a rather random tradition when you think about it; I can't think of any other pastry we eat on a recurring basis that's decorated with fire. 71.231.102.185 23:37, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Birthday cakes likely originated with the Egyptians. The Greeks later had birthday cakes for the gods/goddesses. Birthday cake with candles started with the birthday celebration for the Greek moon god Artemis. References 1 2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toritaiyo (talk • contribs) 01:15, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Candles
" The origin of birthday cake candles can be further traced back to the 16th century German tradition of placing tapers on Christmas trees. This tradition was then brought to North America by German immigrants. By 1927, the Sears Roebuck catalogue offered birthday candles and holders for sale. "

Originally, this was in the candles section. For me, it is the most important piece of information, while the Goethe excerpt is only secondary; let me explain why. When I first visited the article, it pointed to some obscure cult of Artemis as the origin of the candle tradition. For obvious reasons, the connection is probably spurious and of course, the source cited was by no means academic. My claim for the Germanic origin comes from Cherasky (2000), which, as I recall was a conference paper. Cherasky herself cites Christmas tree tradition as a point of origin and the Goethe kinderfest quote as a primary source. For me, without the tapers, there is no cultural point of origin, no precedent. Goethe attends some prince's bday party, there are candles on the cake, so what? By citing links in germanic culture to festivals, candles, and central objects of celebration; the connection no only less tenuous, but more fully contextualised. Of course, cultural artefacts are never formed or explained so simply and I agree that there is probably no real "explanation"; however, the best we can do is triangulate and provide a cultural context, not for "explaining" but for "understanding" the logic of the time. Without the Christmas tradition, the Goethe account seems to hang alone in empty explanatory space. We are no better off than with obscure Roman cults.

Secondly, 16th cent Germany is hardly 21st cent North America. We must provide explanation and justification, or if nothing else an account of its journey, for its contemporary Western ontology. While I agree that the last two statements do not fully chart the globalisation of the candle tradition, it is a start. I hope that is enough justification to keep them...

As for the citations, I'm sure I've screwed them up, but they should point to Cherasky - if you would be so kind as to show me how to correct them I would appreciate it (I think the sears roebuck may be from elsewhere, I will double check...). Mineminemine (talk) 16:08, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * What is your source? Whatever source was originally indicated by the citationbot under the title "autogenerated" was removed, probably because it was not a reliable source. If you have library or other access to a content database such as Lexus/Nexus or EBSCO, find your source there. Otherwise most of the content you find in a news.google.com or books.google.com or scholar.google.com will be acceptable as sources. Pages placed on the web by individuals like your "Cherasky" and found under a normal google.com search are generally not acceptable. -- The Red Pen of Doom  20:23, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

here is the location of the paper: http://www.chowdc.org/Papers/Cherkasky2000.html 9for some reason it is now listed as an attack site, not sure why). Anyway, I originally thought that it was a reprint of a Gastronomica article, but I was incorrect; it is a conference paper from the Culinary Historians of Washington DC. I doubt that the paper has been peer reviewed, but given the facts, wouldn't it still count as a reliable source? Mineminemine (talk) 00:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Cutting of the cake
Here in Australia and I believer the rest of the English speaking world, a significant part of the ceremony / ritual of a birthday cake is it being cut by the birthday boy / girl. Also there are 'theories' about green babies and other child like stuff based on if you cut all the way to the bottom etc. Does anyone have any good references to link this and / or any good summaries of this? Can people in other countries confirm this practice occurs in their location? --TinTin (talk) 23:01, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

In India
There are very few people use birth celebration in villages but cities and towns birthday cakes are used similar to western people.

Kalamya (talk) 18:17, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Introduction, History, Bacteriology, and Culture
Hello, I was browsing through this page and noticed some knowledge gaps that I would like to fill, with your permission. I will list some suggestions below. Let me know what you think!

Introduction: Birthday cakes tend to align with current trends. The media has shown various cake trends that are constantly evolving (different types of shapes and patterns). History: As seen in the section on the history of birthday cakes, citations and references are needed. Bacteriology:  During Covid-19 blowing out the candles took a pause due to the amount of germs spread through this action. Birthday cakes are so embedded in our culture that during covid there was a shift in that culture, changing the way we look at birthday cakes in terms of health and safety. Culture: On the talk page there are a lot of questions about how different cultures celebrate birthdays and how they use birthday cakes. The only answer was brief and needed expansion. I would also like to talk about other cultures.

Thank you so much. Mayareedlevy (talk) 13:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Your Covid section here was claiming that The absence of birthday candles was one of the many policies in place to try and reduce the spread of Covid-19, but the cited source doesn't appear to mention candles or cakes anywhere?
 * Whether you meant it literally or for dramatic effect, a statement like In 2020 birthdays changed forever is also inappropriate for a serious encyclopedia. Belbury (talk) 15:47, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * thank you for the feedback.
 * I was having issues with my source that mentions birthday candles but it is up and working now.
 * I also took out the part about birthdays changing forever. Mayareedlevy (talk) 18:06, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Which source is it that you believe supports the idea that some Covid mitigation policies required birthday candles to be absent? The source you are citing, https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2781306, does not mention candles or birthday cakes. The other sources in that section are from 2017.
 * The fact that birthday parties helped to spread Covid and were affected by regulations is not in itself particularly relevant to this article, which is about birthday cakes. Belbury (talk) 18:15, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

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Sunset Acres is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

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Talk:Next (2007 film)

Missing Spoiler tag
Shoudn't there be a spoiler tag?--Irongrip 15:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, and inserted one. See if it lasts Im, just noticed that sections marked 'plot' you should just assume that there are spoilers in, thereby deleting the tags ve just inserted. --Udo 04:32, 10 Juli 2007 (UTC)

Changes to article
External link changed to Next Movie - Official Movie. (Sudha 03:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC))

Changed the plot summary: from the official site: Next Movie (Sudha 03:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC))

 * Copying the plot summary directly from another source is plagiarism. I've removed it. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 13:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Visual effects

 * Citation for possible use. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 17:32, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Citation for possible use. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 17:32, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Trivia
Some of the comparisons in the trivia section seem completely off base. I would have a hard time imagining that this movie is based on Dr. Strangelove, simply because both films feature nuclear bombs.151.198.44.119 22:54, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Or with Phil Dick's "The Golden Man", for that matter. Might as well be related to any movie/book with people who can predict the future. The synopsis from the movie bears NO resemblance at all to the story it's supposedly based on (Cris doesn't speak in the story, doesn't have any goal besides escaping with his life, the government agents want to kill him, he escapes and in doing so dooms humanity to extinction).201.235.188.220 00:13, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, but the movie credits mention explicitly that it was inspired by that movie. As for Dr. Strangelove, this movie was cerinly not 'inspired' by it, but it still is probably no coincidence they showed it in the backround. Laca 16:55, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

So what if the producers want to say it's based on Dick's novel? It's not uncommon for producers to want to cash in on a famous writer's name but anyone familiar with Dick's short story can see that it bears no resemblance whatsoever apart from having a precog in it (and even then his powers are very different) - even the term "loosely" is misleading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.8.53.40 (talk) 13:12, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, i think the tag in the opening line about phil dick's story is inappropriately placed. it should be moved down to trivia or marked later on as an influence. this book and movie are not the same at all. this is 'lawnmower man' all over again... i mean seriously, remove it.

Plot

 * With the government having tormented him for years because of his ability, he has generally kept a low profile, utilizing his unique ability as a Las Vegas showroom magician...

Did I miss something, or it this incorrect? It seemed to me that at the beginning, Julianne Moore's boss was barely convinced of his existence. —wwoods 18:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * During the conversation between Cage and Moore at the garage, Cage makes a statement to the effect that he has indeed been previously tormented by institutions of one form or another (although perhaps not the government itself). Remember the line about the marathon session of "guess the next card"?  -- Slordak 14:06, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, but there's no reason to assume it was the government...Laca 16:56, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Wrong, he said "people like you" when he was talking to Moore. OverlordQ 07:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Which could simply mean people who want to use the powers of precognitive people for their own gain.

Movie Genre
"Next is a 2007 comedy loosely based on the science fiction short story "The Golden Man" by Philip K. Dick. The film is directed by Lee Tamahori and stars Nicolas Cage, Julianne Moore, Jessica Biel and Thomas Kretschmann. The film was released April 27, 2007."

Can someone explain to me why Next is considered a comedy? Edgar 20:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Vandalism, Eddy, vandalism. --Soetermans 07:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

wikiquotes links to nowhere
as title. httassadar 20:40, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Controversy about sudden ending?
Does anyone know if there was/is any controversy about the film's plot resolution? It seems to me that it would, given how it does end. — metaprimer (talk) 01:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Why would there be any controversy, it is now back to a day before the bomb is due to go off, and Cris knows where the bomb will be detonated from, and the FBI believe his abilities, so the crisis will be resolved - even if he messes up and can't find a way to fix it first time, he can go back to the same day again and take a different route, or even back further to when he met Liz if necessary presumably (and possibly before) - the ending is the end of any tension in the movie - he wins, because due to the interaction with Liz he is no longer trapped with only two minutes to work with - he now can wind forward and back at least a couple of days, and with the aid of the FBI and NEST and whoever else, so what would be the point? Up until we learn he can rewind back that far, there is dramatic tension in that he could get trapped in some situation with no way out, but now the terrorists cannot win as there is now a near infinite amount of routes for Cris to explore (which presumably is the point of rubbing the viewers nose in the excessive copying of himself towards the end of the boat scene is meant to telegraph to the viewers, when combined with the reveal of the extended rewind capability he now has. --81.156.8.87 (talk) 22:18, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

DVD release
Does anyone know if there is going to be a DVD release of Next? If so, when? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.190.109.54 (talk) 00:57, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

 * I can't think of a reason why Next wouldn't see a DVD release when just about every other movie does. — metaprimer (talk) 05:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

'Production'?
A big chunk of the Production section is indented for some reason. Is it a block quote from something? If so, it needs a cite. —wwoods 03:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Original script
Ww. The original scripts is so much better. Thank you for publishing it here. I wish they would've made the film with that intent in mind, it would have been a much better, more successful film. Less boringly formatted to Hollywood's "kill the bad guy, save the girl" unimaginative format. The orginial scripts would buzz up so much conrtroversy and debate as to be THE movie of the year.-- Procrastinating@ talk2me 11:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Clean Up
The final paragraph of the plot section is really sloppy:

"In the next scene, Cris and Liz are still sleeping in the hotel. It is before Liz can go outside to be confronted by Ferris. Cris is reflecting that "every time you look into the future, it changes... because you looked at it." Because the nuclear weapon the terrorists could hurt Liz, Cris has been able to see a day into the future. He calls Farris to make a deal. Then he says his goodbye to Liz, asks her to wait for him and goes outside to meet Farris."

This is just plain confusing. "Because the nuclear weapon the terrorists could hurt Liz, Cris has been able to see a day into the future." makes absolutely no sense at all.

It also doesn't mention anyone awakening, so it sounds like all of this happens while they are asleep. Also, they are not in a hotel, but a cabin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.238.108 (talk) 01:30, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Ferris Vs. Farris
The name is spelled each way several times throughout the article.

Trivia deleted

 * In one scene in the movie, Cris Johnson switches a television on in order to mask his voice from detection by the FBI. A channel displayed on the television is playing a scene from Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb. A later scene in the movie has Johnson strapped to a chair with his eyelids mechanically held open while he is forced to watch a television screen. This scene is reminiscent of a scene from Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange.

 * In the 'Clockwork Orange' scene, Callie Ferris offers Johnson a cigarette. The cigarette box bears a striking resemblance to the Victory Cigarettes box from the film adaptation of 1984.

 * The last word seen in the film is that of name of the hotel, named to coincide with its ending: "Cliffhanger".

 * The credits are briefly "foreseen", including a glimpse of the ending logos, before rolling from the top of the screen to the bottom. This mimics Johnson's ability to see into the future. Despite the reversed direction of flow, the credits follow the normal order, with well known names appearing before the rest of the crew. Some statements are printed in lines of text vertically reversed in order.

Ikip (talk) 09:05, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Raining fish in Denmark

 * See: Raining animals

Cage mentions that 50 years ago it rained fish in Denmark.

Ikip (talk) 09:10, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * BBC How can it rain fish?

typo?
I thought he went to the dinner twice a day at 9.08 and not 8.09

The Golden Man?
For some reason I have no power to change the first mini-paragraph of the article. But, this movie is not even loosely based off from The Golen Man, and quite frankly there are no sources. That's not to say that the screenwriter didn't copy Mr. Dick's idea, but no, this is not based off of The Golden Man. Unless, someone can find evidence. Which, if you dig, you'll find evidence to support my claim. It's like saying Inception is based off from some book about dreams; it's prepostrous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JCStreetSoldier (talk • contribs) 16:52, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Err, doesn't it say "based on a short novel by Philip K Dick" during the starting credits of the film? --81.156.8.87 (talk) 22:22, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Not moved, withdrawn No such user (talk) 14:12, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Next (2007 film) → Next (film) – There are currently no other films named Next.  Event horizon51  (talk) 03:54, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose disambiguation page lists three films with articles, and four films total. This was the former name of a film, and another film has a subtitle in addition to the main title. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 04:36, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose per WP:DAB we dab by topic not article, and as 65.94 says disambiguation page lists three films with articles, and four films total. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:15, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Support There are no other films simply called Next. The page Next does list films there, but none of them are actually called "Next". The Bollywood film makes no reference in the article it was produced under the title Next, the animated short doesn't have an article (so why list it?), with the director's article stating the title is infact Next: The Infinite Variety Show and the documentary is titled Next: A Primer on Urban Painting, and doesn't exactly look as if it's notable! The documentary should have a distinguish tag on it.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 06:51, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * User talk:Lugnuts, the dab page was mislinking Next (1990 film) (which prior to Feb had been at Next (short film). The article was moved by User:Fortdj33 (Fortdj33 moved page Talk:Next (short film) to Talk:Next (1990 film): Proper disambiguation per WP:NCF) which seems to be correct? In ictu oculi (talk) 09:28, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Ahh, good spot. Right, ignore my comment above - no need to move this now per WP:NCF. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 11:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Never mind. I failed to notice Next (1990 film) when I proposed this.  Event horizon51  (talk) 02:10, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

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Herzliya Hebrew Gymnasium

The Herzliya Hebrew Gymnasium (הַגִּימְנַסְיָה הָעִבְרִית הֶרְצְלִיָּה, also known as Gymnasia Herzliya), originally known as HaGymnasia HaIvrit (lit. Hebrew High School) is a historic high school in Tel Aviv, Israel.

The original building

Gymnasia Herzliya was the country's first Hebrew high school, founded in 1905 in Jaffa, part of the Ottoman Empire in those days. The cornerstone-laying for the school's new building on Herzl Street in the Ahuzat Bayit neighborhood (the nucleus of future Tel Aviv) took place on July 28, 1909. The building was designed by Joseph Barsky, inspired by descriptions of Solomon's Temple.

The building on Herzl Street was a major Tel Aviv landmark until 1962, when the site was razed for the construction of Shalom Meir Tower. The new tower was the tallest building in Israel those days, representing a significant architectural achievement.

The destruction of the Hebrew High School building sparked widespread recognition of the importance of conserving historical landmarks. The Council for Conservation of Heritage Sites in Israel was founded in the 1980s partly in response to the fate of Herzliya Hebrew High School.

The current building
Located today on Jabotinsky Street, it serves as a six-year secondary school. The modern campus is entered through a gate that is reminiscent of the facade of the 1909 building.

Principals
Former principals include Haim Bograshov, Baruch Ben Yehuda and Carmi Yogev. In 1992, former Air Force fighter pilot and Brigadier General Ron Huldai was appointed principal. He implemented many changes and modernizations later adopted by other schools. After leaving the school, he was elected mayor of Tel Aviv. The current principal is Ze'ev Dgannie.

Notable faculty

 * Yosef Haim Brenner, writer
 * Zvi Nishri, physical education pioneer
 * Shaul Tchernichovsky, poet

Notable alumni

 * Netiva Ben-Yehuda (1928–2011), Palmach commander, Hebrew scholar, and author
 * Miriam Bernstein-Cohen (1895–1991), actress
 * Aron Brand, pediatric cardiologist
 * Yitzhak Danziger (1916–1977), sculptor
 * Kosso Eloul (1920–1995), sculptor
 * Nachum Gutman, (1898–1980), painter, sculptor, and author
 * Ron Huldai, mayor of Tel Aviv since 1998 (as of June 2022)
 * Anat Lelior (born 2000), Olympic surfer
 * Yaron London, (1940–), media personality, journalist, actor, and songwriter
 * Moshe Many, urologist; President of Tel Aviv University, and President of Ashkelon Academic College.
 * Aharon Megged, (1920–2016), writer
 * Moshe Menuhin, (1893–1983), author
 * Yuval Neeman, (1925–2006), physicist
 * Elyakum Ostashinski, first mayor of Rishon LeZion
 * Jacob Sadé (1925-2020), otolaryngologist, medical researcher and academic
 * Moshe Sharett (1894–1965), second Prime Minister of Israel (1954–55)
 * Avraham Shlonsky (1900–73), poet
 * Giora Spiegel (born 1947), soccer player and coach
 * Avigdor Stematsky (1908–89), painter
 * Yemima Tchernovitz-Avidar (1909–98), author
 * Yair Lapid, (1963–) former Israeli Prime Minister, journalist, author, and politician; former Israeli Minister of Finance and chairman of the Yesh Atid Party
 * Amos Luzzatto, (1928–2020), physicist
 * Moshe Shamir 1921 – 2004, Author and playwright
 * Moses Cyrus Weiler (1907-2000), rabbi and founder of Reform Judaism in South Africa
 * Shemuel Yeivin (1896–1982), archaeologist

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Sydenham, Johannesburg

Sydenham is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality. The suburb is surrounded by the area of Orchards, Orange Grove and other smaller suburbs.

History
The suburb was surveyed for housing in 1905. The suburb's name comes from the name of the farm which originated sometime before the mid-1890s. In 1910, Sydenham was still quite rural and on 26 February of that year, the land was used by Frenchman Albert Kimmerling to fly a Voisin biplane a few hundred yards and proved that aircraft could be flown at a high altitude of 2000 m.

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Talk:Superman Returns

References to use

 * Please add to the list references that can be used for the film article.

Arrowverse
Should we mention something in this article about Routh reprising his role as Superman for the upcoming arrowverse crossover. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.165.152.42 (talk • contribs) 20:35, September 21, 2019 (UTC)

RE: Characterization of Superman
It would help if you would cite or point to the source(s) that criticize this as all I'm seeing is criticism of Routh's acting and lack of charisma. DonQuixote (talk) 05:39, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Lois Lane actor
I believe this article has been altered to include another actor in the role of Lois Lane 2001:4479:A306:CC00:F417:CA5C:4512:1945 (talk) 21:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

 * Thanks, I've fixed it. Betty Logan (talk) 21:40, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

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The Gardens, Johannesburg

The Gardens is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. A small northern suburb that is surrounded by Highlands North, Orchards, and Oaklands, it is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

History
The suburb was developed in 1902.

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HMS Southampton (1912)

HMS Southampton was a Town-class cruiser (1910) light cruiser built for the Royal Navy in the 1910s. She was a member of the Chatham sub-class of the Town class. The ship survived the First World War and was sold for scrap in 1926.

Design and description
The Chatham sub-class were slightly larger and improved versions of the preceding Weymouth sub-class. They were 457 ft long overall, with a beam of 49 ft and a draught of 16 ft. Displacement was 5400 LT normal and 6000 LT at full load. Twelve Yarrow boilers fed Southampton's Parsons steam turbines, driving two propeller shafts, that were rated at 25000 shp for a design speed of 25.5 kn. The ship reached 26.1 kn during her sea trials from 25720 shp. The boilers used both fuel oil and coal, with 1200 LT of coal and 260 LT tons of oil carried, which gave a range of 4460 nmi at 10 kn.

The main armament of the Chathams was eight BL 6-inch Mk XI naval guns. Two of these guns were mounted on the centreline fore and aft of the superstructure and two more were mounted on the forecastle deck abreast the bridge. The remaining four guns amidships were raised to the extended forecastle deck, which meant that they could be worked in all weathers. All these guns were fitted with gun shields. Four Vickers 3-pounder (47 mm) saluting guns were also fitted. Their armament was completed by two submerged 21-inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes.

Construction and career
Southampton was laid down on 6 April 1911 by John Brown & Company at their Clydebank shipyard and launched on 16 May 1912. Upon completion in November, the ship was assigned to the 1st Battle Squadron and she became flagship of the 1st Light Cruiser Squadron in July 1913.

The ship had an extremely active wartime career. Southampton participated in the Battle of Heligoland Bight, and later in the Battle of Dogger Bank in early 1915. In May 1916, Southampton fought in the Battle of Jutland as flagship of 2nd Light Cruiser Squadron where she torpedoed the German light cruiser SMS Frauenlob, which subsequently sank. In 1917, she was transferred to the 8th Light Cruiser Squadron with whom she remained for the rest of the war.

Southampton was sold for scrapping on 13 July 1926 to Thos. W. Ward, of Pembroke Dock.

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Talk:James G. Blaine

Not carefully worded!
" He upheld American rights in Samoa, pursued a vigorous diplomacy with Italy over the lynching of 11 Italians accused of being Mafiosi who murdered the police chief in New Orleans in 1891, held a firm attitude during the strained relations between the United States and Chile over a deadly barroom brawl involving sailors from the USS Baltimore; and carried on with Britain a controversy over the seal fisheries of Bering Sea—a difference afterwards settled by arbitration. "

To make a long story short: a typical example of arrogance.

real words please
"DISFRANCHISE", is this a real word??? JG Blaine was a School Teacher and Newspaperman.... If disenfranchise is too long then use defranchise...but disfrachised... I really think it is not a word.., and if nobody says anything in the next week I will put in a real wordJohn5Russell3Finley 19:57, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Secretary of State under Harrison
I believe the Secretary of State section under President Benjamin Harrison needs to be modified. According to Calhoun (2005), Benjamin Harrison, pp. 74-77, Blaine was often absent from his position of Secretary of State and President Harrison to on the burdens of Secretary of State. Harrison would make the State Department Documents and then send them to Blaine for signature. Blaine stayed in Bar Harbor, Maine for the hot Washington Summers and left Harrison to attend State Department matters. Cmguy777 (talk) 17:18, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

James G. Blaine Society
Should James G. Blaine Society be added as a See also? Although it was named after him, it really had nothing at all to do with Blaine, so maybe it doesn't even merit a "See also" mention. As this article has reached FA status, I figured it best to post this message and let someone with more involvement and interest decide whether or not to include it, instead of simply adding it myself. SJ Morg (talk) 07:06, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Great article! I think your inclination is correct, though, the organization is named for him precisely because it has nothing to do with him.  I can't think of a way to fit it into the article's narrative, and even a "See also" might be too much.  You might want to add it to the James G. Blaine category, if you want some kind of connection. --Coemgenus (talk) 12:08, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Secretary of State
I think the lead paragraph of this article should mention that Blaine served as secretary of state. ImperialSaponification (talk) 20:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

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Vandia Grove

Vandia Grove is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region B of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Sybian/archive1

Sybian
'''Note: If you have questions/comments/objections to this being put on the front page, please leave them on my talk page or this talk page. It is about a sex toy, so I know there will be objections.''' Disclaimer aside, this article was brought up from a stub to what we have now. Of course, we added what we could add without spamming for porn sites and included non-nude images, but it has come a long way. It was copyedited and proofread, was at Peer Review for some time. It should be good to have a FA about a sexual topic, but this could test many unforseen subjects. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 02:17, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Question Can an article be a FA, but not useable on the Main Page? Is there a policy on this?  I don't think this should ever appear so prominently on the Main Page, but to me that doesn't mean it should be on a list of the highest quality articles. ike9898 02:44, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * If the subject is not appropriate, it can be marked as not featured on the front page, but can still gain Featured status. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 02:47, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, an article can be featured but considered off-limits to the main page. The only instance of this is Wikipedia, which is a featured article but considered too self agrandizing for purposes of the main page, so it will never be the daily featured article. →Raul654 20:11, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Object. All but one of the images are claimed as "fair use".  Wikipedia is not just an encyclopedia, it is a free content encyclopedia, so fair-use images should be avoided if at all possible. --Carnildo 04:26, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, most photos re-appear on various websites, and I am not sure about the original copyright nor I am not sure who took them when. If that is the case, I will make all photos that you think are copyright issues PD, since the main source is not known. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 06:50, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Tagged them all. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 06:52, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * That doesn't fix anything. You can't go around claiming to release other peoples' work into the public domain. --Carnildo 07:12, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, if I cannot seem to use Fair use, and the original author and date of pictures are unknown, what I am supposed to use then? Zscout370 (Sound Off) 07:13, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * You can continue using fair use. I don't think (personally) it's that much of an issue, though everyone's right in saying that we shouldn't be encouraging these images at all. Ronline 11:47, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, Carnildo is following policy: "Have images where appropriate, with good captions and acceptable copyright status. However, an article does not have to have a picture to be featured." However, Carnildo and I should try to find out what is considered acceptable copyright status. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 18:11, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and put them all back to fair use. Until I hear something different, I am sticking to those. I will try to find some photos either today or tomorrow. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 18:17, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * If yall would like to find some copyright OK pictures, I went onto Google and looked at . Of course, if you do not like porn, there is always a filter you can use. But, this is mainly for my point that it is not known who took the photos when, so that was why I was thinking PD first. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 20:45, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * What are you supposed to do? You could continue using the images under fair use, in which case I would continue to object.  You could remove the images, and I'd remove my objection, but that would leave the article a little light on images.  You could track down the creators of the images, contact them, and ask for GFDL/Creative Commons licenses.  You could find other images where the creators are easier to determine, and ask for those images under a suitable license.  You could contact the uploader of the one free-use image in the article, and ask for more pictures.  You could find a store selling those machines, and ask for one to be taken out of the box so you can photograph it.  And I'm sure there are other things you can do. --Carnildo 03:08, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Does the nominator have one of these at home? He could take some pictures. ike9898 20:23, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * No, since I do not have that money and I am also a guy. I will try better, but I knew i lost this fac, badly. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 20:29, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Object. Notwithstanding the image copyright issues (which do need to be resolved), this article is clearly not up to the standard of a featured article. I find that it reads like an FAQ / "about our product and its history" page off of the manufacturer's website.  There is little or no objective commentary; no sales figures; no discussion of its niche use in porn; no discussion of its impact on society (rather, subsets thereof); really, nothing but a history of development and a sales pitch ("negatives - it costs too much").  I would suggest sending back to peer review for more work. - Bantman 02:38, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * The use in the porn industry I tried to avoid, since it's just like any other sexual thing: someone put up sites showing girls riding these machines. I do not know which site came first, what sites are out there, and then, it will begin the slope of advertising/spamming, and I refuse to do that. I do not have sales figures, but I can get that. As for it's impacts on society, I do not know, except woman get better orgasms. As for it sounding like a sales pitch, where does it sound like that? Zscout370 (Sound Off) 04:42, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose, my concerns are similar to Bantmans. The article needs sales figures, how popular is the product since it is an expensive sex toy, is it stocked in most sex shops? If you're going to go to the effort of writing a FA quality article about a sex toy you may as well mention its specific use in porn. There should be some images that have free copyrights, assuming there is a patent, diagrams should be avaiable and you could make free images from there. Since the intention of the creator seems to be to make a tool for sex therapy, the article more that covers what the makers think, what do sexologists think of the product? The first paragraph of the concerns section really is of no relevance, at least in regard to concerns people may have about using the product and should be moved or removed.--nixie 04:57, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * When I searched for Sybian and problems, all I got were about guys having penile problems and women having no problems getting orgasm. I lose there. Same thing for the sales figures, all I get are direct sales websites. Once again, I lost. Photos, not even looking for something good, but I am about to delete a few. I got rid of two, one more can go. If people want to see an attachment, they can look at the first photo. I might write something on the porn use, but I am not sure how I can present that. Pretty much, I lost. Raul, you can close it, since I cannot answer some of the objections here. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 05:18, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Object. The references section has 10 entries, 6 of which are from sybian.com, and 2 of which are from toyslove.com (a page which appears to have been created specifically to be linked to from wikipedia?).  Can the inline citations be tweaked so we don't have repeat entries listed in the references?  I would also like to see some sales figures.  Are they constructed "on demand?"  -- Norvy (talk) 05:16, 14 July 2005 (UTC)


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Sentimental Journey (Ringo Starr album)

Sentimental Journey is the debut solo album by English rock musician Ringo Starr. It was released by Apple Records in March 1970 as the Beatles were breaking up. The album is a collection of pre-rock 'n' roll standards that Starr recalled from his childhood in Liverpool. As a departure from the experimental quality that had characterised solo LPs by George Harrison and John Lennon since 1968, it was the first studio album by an individual Beatle to embrace a popular music form.

Starr began recording Sentimental Journey in London in October 1969, in response to Lennon's private announcement that he was leaving the Beatles. He recruited George Martin to produce the sessions and used different musical arrangers for each song. Starr made a promotional film for the song "Sentimental Journey", in which he performed with an orchestra and dancers at the Talk of the Town nightclub. The cover of the album shows Starr in front of a pub in the Dingle area of Liverpool, where he grew up.

The album's impact was compromised by Paul McCartney's refusal to delay the release of his solo debut, McCartney, and by McCartney then initiating the group's break-up. Despite receiving mixed reviews from music critics and confusing Beatles fans through its choice of music, Sentimental Journey charted inside the top ten in the United Kingdom and peaked at number 22 on the Billboard Top LPs chart in the United States. The album was a forerunner to standards collections by artists such as Harry Nilsson and Linda Ronstadt, and to the vogue from the late 1990s onwards for rock artists such as Bryan Ferry, Rod Stewart and Boz Scaggs to embrace big band music.

Background
Despite his limited songwriting experience, Ringo Starr was encouraged to make a solo album by his Beatles bandmates. His mother Elsie Starkey and stepfather Harry Graves also supported the idea when Starr visited them at their Liverpool home. His mother said that Starr had a good singing voice. He first considered making a country music album, but then decided to record a collection of old standards that would reflect his mother's favourite songs. The tapes from the Beatles' January 1969 Get Back film project captured Starr expressing a wish to make an album of standards.

Starr committed to the project in order to keep active following John Lennon's unpublicised decision in September 1969 to leave the Beatles, signalling that the group were effectively no more. Starr described his mindset at the time: "I sat in the garden for a while wondering what the hell to do with my life ... It was quite a dramatic period for me – or traumatic, actually." He asked Beatles producer George Martin to produce the album. Starr compiled a list of the songs he wished to record, and Martin and Beatles aide Neil Aspinall contacted the musical arrangers.

The material Starr selected included works from the big band era and songs well known through recordings by Bing Crosby, Doris Day, Frank Sinatra, Fats Waller and Matt Munro. Starr explained their appeal in a 1990 interview: "I was brought up with all those songs, you know, my family used to sing those songs, my mother and my dad, my aunties and uncles. They were the first musical influences on me." He decided to have each song arranged by a different musician – ranging from his London associates Martin, Paul McCartney, Klaus Voormann and Maurice Gibb, to American arrangers and producers such as Richard Perry, Quincy Jones and Elmer Bernstein. He thought the variety would add an element of interest to the project.

October 1969 – January 1970
The recording for Sentimental Journey was initially sporadic, as Starr was involved in other musical activities through to the end of 1969. These included participating in sessions for Leon Russell with George Harrison in October. He also played drums on Harrison's productions for Apple Records artists Doris Troy and Billy Preston.

The session musicians on the album were credited as the George Martin Orchestra. Although many of the arrangements incorporated drums and other rock instruments, Starr's role was confined to that of lead vocalist. Preston played keyboards on some of the songs. Aspinall recalled inviting some of the arrangers to create the backing tracks themselves, with their chosen musicians, and that the tapes were then sent to London for Starr to add his vocals. EMI engineer Phil McDonald was the main recording engineer in London, and Geoff Emerick prepared some of the mixes for the album. Sessions began on 27 October, when Starr, backed by an orchestra, recorded "Night and Day" at EMI Studios (now Abbey Road Studios). Martin conducted the orchestra from an arrangement by Chico O'Farrill. The track was mixed the same day.

The next session took place on 6 November at Wessex Sound Studios. Starr and the orchestra, conducted by Martin, recorded "Stormy Weather", although the song was omitted from the album. The following day, they recorded the backing track for the McCartney-arranged "Stardust", which nearly earned the album the title of Ringo Stardust. On 14 November, Starr added his vocal to "Stardust" and began recording "Dream". Arranged by Martin, the latter was finished on 18 November at Trident Studios. The backing track for "Blue, Turning Grey Over You", from an arrangement by jazz bandleader Oliver Nelson, was taped on 28 November and completed on 4 December, although Starr did not record his vocal until early in 1970.

Returning to other projects, Starr spent time promoting The Magic Christian, a film in which he co-starred with Peter Sellers. This included being filmed at several London locations for a BBC2 documentary devoted to him, for the show Late Night Line-Up. He also appeared on With a Little Help from My Friends, an all-star television tribute to Martin that was first broadcast on the ITV network on 24 December. For the latter, Starr lip-synched to his Abbey Road composition "Octopus's Garden" in a Yorkshire Television studio on 14 December, after recording a new vocal at EMI on 8 December. On 3 January 1970, he joined Harrison and McCartney to record "I Me Mine" and add overdubs to "Let It Be", for their inclusion on the album accompanying the documentary film from the Get Back sessions, now titled Let It Be.

On 14 January, at Olympic Sound Studios, Starr recorded his vocals for "Love Is a Many Splendored Thing" and "Sentimental Journey". The backing track for "Love Is a Many Splendored Thing" had been taped at A&M Studios in Los Angeles on 26 December, when Jones conducted a 27-piece orchestra playing his arrangement. The Perry-arranged "Sentimental Journey" was also recorded in the US late the previous year; the backing featured an unusual mix of instruments, including a "talking guitar" solo. On 26 January, Starr and his wife Maureen Starkey left for the US to attend the premiere of The Magic Christian and promote the film.

February–March 1970
Authors Chip Madinger and Mark Easter write that after the intermittent recording since October the previous year, work on Starr's debut album began "in earnest" in early February 1970. From this point, EMI's Studio 2 became the main location. A 3 February session was devoted to a remake of "Love Is a Many Splendored Thing", since Jones and Martin were unhappy with the previous recording. Jones flew to London to work on the new version; Starr recorded a vocal that day, only to replace it on 5 February. More time was spent on "Love Is a Many Splendored Thing" than on any other song, as strings were then added to the remake on 17 February, followed by backing vocals and further instrumentation on the 19th.

On 9 February, Starr added his vocal to Bernstein's arrangement of "Have I Told You Lately That I Love You?", which had been taped at A&M on 3 February. At Martin's urging, Starr recorded an improved vocal part on 18 February. "I'm a Fool to Care" was recorded at EMI on 11 February. Voormann, the song's arranger, conducted a 15-piece jazz orchestra and Starr added his vocal track. On 12 February, a 31-piece orchestra and a chorus of nine singers recorded Les Reed's arrangement of "Let the Rest of the World Go By". Starr added his vocal that day but then replaced it on 18 February. On 17 February, Francis Shaw conducted a 15-piece string section as a final addition to "I'm a Fool to Care". Following the 18 February overdubbing session, Starr taped an early version of his rock song "It Don't Come Easy" (then titled "You Gotta Pay Your Dues"), with Harrison directing the musicians.

On 20 February, final mixing took place on "I'm a Fool to Care", "Let the Rest of the World Go By", "Sentimental Journey" and "Have I Told You Lately That I Love You?" Starr recorded his vocal for "Blue, Turning Grey Over You" on 24 February. At De Lane Lea Studios the following day, Johnny Dankworth conducted a 20-piece orchestra on his arrangement of "You Always Hurt the One You Love"; Starr then added his vocal to the track. The songs "Autumn Leaves" and "I'll Be Looking at the Moon" were thought to be outtakes from the February 1970 sessions and were subsequently sought out by collectors. According to Madinger and Easter, however, studio documentation does not support their existence, and the two songs were merely listed as candidates for inclusion in a contemporaneous magazine article.

Starr and Martin moved to Morgan Sound Studios on 5 March, at McCartney's suggestion. They taped the basic tracks, with a 36-piece orchestra, for "Whispering Grass (Don't Tell the Trees)", arranged by Ron Goodwin, and the Gibb-arranged "Bye Bye Blackbird". Goodwin and Gibb each conducted the orchestra and Starr added vocals to both songs. On 6 March, recording for the album was completed at Morgan, with the addition of saxophone (played by Dankworth), drums and piano on "You Always Hurt the One You Love". This and four other tracks were mixed that evening at EMI Studios.

Packaging and promotional film
The album was first announced in December 1969 with the title Ringo Stardust. Beatles historian Bruce Spizer comments on the aptness of the eventual title, since Starr was "literally taking his fans on a sentimental journey" through his choice of songs.

The LP cover consisted of a photograph by Richard Polak, showing the Empress pub in Dingle, the area of Liverpool where Starr grew up. The Empress was his local pub as a young man; according to author Alan Clayson, in past decades, all of the album's standards would have been sung by happy patrons in the bar there. A photo of Starr dressed in a tuxedo was superimposed so that he appears to be standing at the door to the pub. The figures in the windows are his relatives, superimposed from family photos. The back cover had a photo of Starr in casual clothing, standing outside a building and gesturing towards the wall. The track listing, with the name of each arranger, and other album credits appear in white as if printed on the wall.

To promote the album, Starr made a promotional film for the title track, which was directed by Aspinall and shot before an invited audience at the Talk of the Town nightclub on 15 March 1970. Starr sang the song live over a mix of the studio recording in which his main vocal had been removed, and the Talk of the Town Orchestra, conducted by Martin, played along behind him. Doris Troy, Madeline Bell and Marsha Hunt appeared as backing singers.

In author John Winn's description, in its grand production, the "Sentimental Journey" clip rivals the sequence for "Your Mother Should Know" that closed the Beatles' 1967 TV film Magical Mystery Tour. The stage backdrop contained the LP cover image blown up and expanded to include more of the Dingle neighbourhood. Large flags hung down from each side of the set; midway through the song, from opposite sides of the stage, male dancers appear from under the American Stars and Stripes and female dancers appear from under the British Union Jack to congregate around Starr. Towards the end, a large platform carrying Troy, Bell and Hunt lowers from the ceiling.

Release
Apple Records released Sentimental Journey in the UK on 27 March 1970 (with the catalogue number Apple PCS 7101) and in the US on 24 April (as Apple SW 3365). Following avant-garde and other experimental solo albums by Harrison and Lennon (the latter in collaboration with Yoko Ono) since 1968, it was the first studio album in the popular music vein by an individual Beatle. The "Sentimental Journey" promo clip first aired on Frost on Saturday on 29 March, during Starr's live appearance on the show. In the US, it was shown on The Ed Sullivan Show on 17 May. Starr also promoted the album with interviews for BBC Radio 1's Scene and Heard, BBC Radio 2 and Radio Luxembourg.

The release of Sentimental Journey was the source of friction between Starr and McCartney, who was estranged from his bandmates due to their appointment of Allen Klein to manage the band's Apple Corps organisation. McCartney refused to have his debut solo album, McCartney, held back in Apple's release schedule to allow for Sentimental Journey and the Beatles' Let It Be album. The two musicians had a heated exchange at McCartney's St John's Wood home on 31 March, when Starr personally delivered a letter from Harrison and Lennon explaining the need to delay the release of McCartney. To placate McCartney, Starr conceded the point, but the confrontation contributed to McCartney announcing the Beatles' break-up in his promotion for McCartney.

According to NME critic Bob Woffinden, the album was seen as a "grievous faux pas" amid the publicity surrounding McCartney's announcement on 9 April, since it appeared as though Starr had similarly tried to launch a solo career on the news that the Beatles had broken up. Starr later rued that, because McCartney was issued so soon after his record, it "slayed" Sentimental Journey. The album peaked at number 7 on the UK Albums Chart and number 22 on the US Billboard Top LPs chart, despite the lack of a supporting single. In the US national charts compiled by Cash Box and Record World, it reached number 21 and number 20, respectively. The album sold 500,000 copies there within the first two weeks of release, but failed to achieve gold certification by the Recording Industry Association of America as McCartney and Let It Be did.

In music journalist Paul Moody's description, Sentimental Journey established Starr as "the rootsiest and least affected of the Fab Four". In a Radio 1 interview with Johnny Moran, Harrison described it as "a great album" and "really nice". By contrast, Lennon told Rolling Stone editor Jann Wenner in December 1970 that he was "embarrassed" by the record. Starr later likened the project to "the first shovel of coal in the furnace that makes the train inch forward". He told music journalist Paul Du Noyer in 2001: "if it did nothing else it got me off my bum, back into recording. Then I started to write a bit, and I did 'It Don't Come Easy', 'Back Off Boogaloo', tracks that George Harrison co-wrote with me." Following the album's release, he considered offers for a Las Vegas concert season, performing for hotel diners in the style of Elvis Presley's engagements at the International, but decided against it.

Capitol Records released a budget edition of the album in February 1981. Sentimental Journey was remastered and reissued on CD in 1995, on 1 May in the UK and on 15 August in the US. The promotional clip for the title track appeared on the CD/DVD version of Photograph: The Very Best of Ringo Starr.

Contemporary reviews
Sentimental Journey received an unenthusiastic response from music critics. According to Beatles biographer Nicholas Schaffner, the reaction from critics and fans was "one of embarrassed silence", while journalist John Blake said it was the subject of derision. In his review for Rolling Stone, Greil Marcus called the album "horrendous" but added, "at least it's classy." He also wrote: "There is a certain thrill to hearing Ringo swing immediately and finally flat on 'Stardust', reportedly Judy Agnew's favorite song. She won't like this version, which just might keep Ringo from being presented with an invitation to sing one of the nominated songs on next year's Academy Awards show. But a Grammy seems inevitable."

In a review that Alan Clayson highlights as especially kind, Andy Gray of the NME said that Starr's singing might surprise listeners, as it was not instantly recognisable as him, and was "mostly ... on the beat and on the melody line". Gray described the arrangements as "top-class" and predicted "healthy sales" for the LP.

John Gabree of High Fidelity considered that the impressive cast of musical arrangers was merely "compensating for the fact that Ringo can't sing" and dismissed most of the material as "some of the tiredest junk ever written". Village Voice critic Robert Christgau said the album's appeal was confined to "over-fifties and Ringomaniacs". In Stereo Review, Don Heckman wrote that Sentimental Journey suggested that Starr had long hidden "the heart of a determined romantic" behind his Charlie Chaplin-like acceptance of his standing as the Beatles' "comic relief". Heckman criticised the selection of standards as "unbelievably hoary" but said the contrast in arrangements was stranger still, from O'Farrill's "pseudo-Basie" contribution to Bernstein's "Hollywood Bowl rock".

Retrospective assessments and legacy
Writing in the late 1970s, NME critics Roy Carr and Tony Tyler called the record "a gawky, badly sung, overly sentimental selection of moribund mambos" and "the most embarrassing (to date) of all Beatles solo excursions". Bob Woffinden described it as a project that "begged failure" due to the material and the unsuitability of Starr's voice, and because, even if Starr had sung them "perfectly", the Beatles had "revolutionised popular music" and provided a "fresh set of classics" that made such sentimental songs redundant. He also rued that, after fans had bought the album out of loyalty, they were then wary of Starr's far more worthy follow-up, Beaucoups of Blues.

NPR music critic Tim Riley reacted more favourably: "Backed by full jazz band and occasional strings, Ringo poses as a Liverpudlian Jack Jones, with surprisingly good results." Riley added that the album had "a deceptively easy feel, and the strongest moments ... ('Dream' and 'Blue, Turning Grey Over You' ...) confirm his fundamental appeal as a personality."

Sentimental Journey predated standards collections by other rock artists, including Harry Nilsson's A Little Touch of Schmilsson in the Night, Linda Ronstadt's What's New and Rod Stewart's It Had to Be You: The Great American Songbook. On this point, William Ruhlmann of AllMusic writes: "Coming more than a decade before the fad for standards albums by rock-era pop stars like Linda Ronstadt, the album was taken not as a career move, but as a highly eccentric and expensive novelty of a kind only Beatles could afford to indulge. In retrospect, it remains harmlessly charming, if unexceptional."

Bruce Spizer comments that Starr's album was "indeed novel" for a rock musician, particularly as he was yet to turn 30 and big band music was highly unfashionable in 1970. In addition to citing Ronstadt's 1980s albums with arranger Nelson Riddle and Stewart's series of Great American Songbook releases, Spizer views it as a precursor for "aging rockers" such as Bryan Ferry with As Time Goes By and Boz Scaggs with But Beautiful to "belatedly [jump] on the big band wagon" over subsequent decades. In 2017, following Bob Dylan's recent albums exploring the Great American Songbook, Pitchfork included Sentimental Journey in its list of eight recommended standards collections that "surprise" and "involve artists finding themselves within songs meant for all". The writer admired Martin's production and said that Starr's "everyman charm" bypassed his vocal limitations and ensured that the selections became "his own".

Personnel
According to Bruce Spizer's book The Beatles Solo on Apple Records (except where noted):
 * Ringo Starr – vocals
 * Billy Preston – piano on "I'm a Fool to Care", organ on "Love Is a Many Splendored Thing"
 * George Martin – conductor on "Night and Day", "Dream" and "Sentimental Journey"
 * Ron Goodwin – conductor on "Whispering Grass"
 * Maurice Gibb – conductor on "Bye Bye Blackbird"
 * Klaus Voormann – conductor on "I'm a Fool to Care"
 * Francis Shaw – conductor on "I'm a Fool to Care" (supplementary strings) and "Love Is a Many Splendored Thing"
 * Johnnie Spence – conductor on "Blue, Turning Grey Over You"
 * John Dankworth – orchestral conductor and saxophone on "You Always Hurt the One You Love"
 * Les Reed – conductor on "Let the Rest of the World Go By"

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Beaucoups of Blues

Beaucoups of Blues is the second studio album by the English rock musician and former Beatle Ringo Starr. It was released in September 1970, five months after his debut solo album, Sentimental Journey. Beaucoups of Blues is very far removed in style from its pop-based predecessor, relying on country and western influences. A longtime fan of the genre, Starr recorded the album over three days in Nashville with producer Pete Drake and an ensemble of local session players. Beaucoups of Blues failed to chart in Britain but achieved moderate commercial success in the United States, where it reached number 35 on Billboard's Country Albums list and number 65 on the Billboard Top LPs chart.

Background
During Ringo Starr's tenure with the Beatles he had dabbled with country music: he sang lead on the Beatles version of Buck Owens's country hit "Act Naturally", co-wrote the country-influenced track "What Goes On" and wrote the country song "Don't Pass Me By". Before these recordings, Starr's championing of the genre inspired the band's move towards country music on their 1964 album Beatles for Sale. While playing on sessions for George Harrison's All Things Must Pass in May–June 1970, Starr met American pedal steel guitarist Pete Drake, whom Harrison had arranged to fly to London to play on some of the tracks. Starr had to pick up Drake from the airport so that the pair could record with Harrison; Drake noticed the number of country albums Starr had in his vehicle. Realising Drake's deep connection to country, Starr asked him if they could collaborate on an album together. Drake told Starr his musician friends could compose more than an album's worth of material in a week, which Starr thought was "impossible". Starr was very keen and agreed. Starr promptly flew to Nashville on 22 June.

Recording
Starr's original idea was to have the sessions take place in England and send the master tapes of the finished tracks to Drake. However, Drake convinced him to have the sessions take place in Nashville instead. All of the tracks were cut in three days, on 25, 26 and 27 June, at Music City Recorders. Sessions were engineered by Scotty Moore. All the material for the album was written purposely for Starr. Guitarist Charlie Daniels recalled the sessions as "pretty typical Nashville sessions. You know, three songs in three hours. It was go in, sit down and work. Here's the songs, here's the chords, let's get it done. It was not a Beatles-type leisurely session. It was work."

Starr sang a duet with Jeannie Kendall on the track "I Wouldn't Have You Any Other Way". Also recorded during the sessions was the B-side to the title track, "Coochy Coochy", which originally ran to 28 minutes in length. The sessions went exceedingly well, according to Starr, who has said that they recorded "a few other tracks that we didn't put out" and ended the sessions with two long jam sessions, one lasting 18 minutes and the other 20 minutes. Session drummer D. J. Fontana recalled that Starr "never varied from that tempo. He had the greatest conception of tempo I've ever heard in my life. I have never heard anybody play that steady in my life, and that's a long time." Acetate discs of the album, which were titled Ringo in Nashville, were sold at an auction in August 1992, featured a different track order and included songs not featured on the released version of the album. It was clear to all that Starr's vocals were much more suited to the genre of country than the old standards that characterised Sentimental Journey. For Starr, making Beaucoups of Blues had fulfilled a lifelong ambition.

Sessions

 * June 25, 1970 (6PM-9PM): "Woman Of The Night"; "Without Her"
 * June 25, 1970 (10PM-1AM): "Beaucoups Of Blues"; "Love Don't Last Long"; "Waiting"
 * June 26, 1970 (6PM-9PM): "I'd Be Talking All The Time"; "$15 Draw"
 * June 26, 1970 (10PM-1AM): "Wine, Women And Loud Happy Songs"; "The Wishing Book"
 * June 27, 1970 (6PM-9PM): "Fastest Growing Heartache In The West"; "Silent Homecoming"; "Loser's Lounge"
 * June 27, 1970 (10PM-1AM): "I Wouldn't Have You Any Other Way"; "Coochy-Coochy"; "Nashville Freakout" (aka "Nashville Jam")

Release
Beaucoups of Blues was released on 25 September 1970 in the UK and on 28 September in the US. The title track was released as a single only in the US, backed with the non-album track "Coochy Coochy" on 5 October 1970. As with Sentimental Journey, the fan base was bemused by Starr's abrupt change in style. Beaucoups of Blues did not perform nearly as well as its predecessor, missing the UK charts and reaching only number 65 in the US. The album fared better in other countries, peaking at number 34 in Canada, number 33 in Australia, and number 21 in Norway.

Album cover design and Art direction, John Kosh with The front cover of Beaucoups of Blues, according to Sorrells Pickard, was taken outside musician Tracy Nelson's (Mother Earth – The Blues Broads) smokehouse in Nashville by Marshall Fallwell, Jr. The back cover featured a photo of a large majority of the musicians that appeared on the album. In light of the tepid commercial reaction, Starr would refrain from further album releases for the time being, preferring to concentrate on his second vocation, film acting. On 18 October, Apple announced that a second album of the Nashville recordings would be released; however, the album never materialised. Beaucoups of Blues was remastered and reissued on CD in 1995, on 1 May in the UK, and on 1 August in the US. This edition came with two bonus tracks: "Coochy Coochy" and a jam with all the musicians titled "Nashville Jam".

Critical reception
Writing for Rolling Stone, Charles Burton remarked: "If Beaucoups of Blues reminds one of any record, it's Nashville Skyline, only instead of being lovable, spaced-out Bobby Dylan in front of those luxurious Nashville backups, it's lovable Richard Starkey who is crooning his heart out." In an interview with Jann Wenner of Rolling Stone on 8 December 1970, John Lennon called the album "a good record", but qualified that comment by saying he "didn't feel as embarrassed as I did about [Starr's] first record".

In Melody Maker, Richard Williams remarked on Starr's limitations as a vocalist but found that his "conviction and charm" were such that Beaucoups of Blues "forces one to abdicate from any hip posture and admit, just this once, to sheer uncomplicated enjoyment". Williams acknowledged the key roles played by Drake and guitarist Chuck Howard, before concluding: "One can imagine … that Ringo had a ball making this album. I had a ball listening to it." In his combined review of all the former Beatles' 1970 solo releases, Geoffrey Cannon of The Guardian rated Beaucoups of Blues as his favourite, saying: "The result is superb. Not because Ringo is a good singer, but because, this time, he's let himself be used well. People who work with men like Pete Drake and Charlie McCoy don't go wrong." Writing in Saturday Review magazine, Ellen Sander described the LP as "so protective and perfect a presentation of a vastly underestimated singing talent" and paired it with Harrison's All Things Must Pass as solo albums that "delight in their individuality while recognizing, but not relying on, a former mode of expression". Village Voice critic Robert Christgau believed Starr was trying to impersonate Buck Owens while singing flat, if not entirely faint, but concluded that "both the songs and Pete Drake's production bespeak a high-quality obsession – the music sticks. And Ringo is still Ringo, which means he's good at making himself felt."

Although it was only moderately successful at the time, some critics have since stated that Beaucoups of Blues is one of Starr's best albums. Bob Woffinden wrote in his 1981 book The Beatles Apart: "Ringo took his chance well and his homely lugubrious voice suited those typically maudlin country songs like a charm. It's one of the best Beatle solo albums." Among reviews of the 1995 reissue, Q magazine described it as "always likable and original" and "a collection of contemporary country songs, delivered by Ringo Starr in a languidly melancholic style curiously reminiscent of Michael Nesmith". Mojo editor Paul Du Noyer admired the "stellar cast of country players" on the recordings and added that "the groove is loose and fluent."

Personnel

 * Ringo Starr – vocals, acoustic guitar; drums on "Nashville Jam"
 * Chuck Howard – guitar
 * Charlie Daniels – guitar
 * Jerry Kennedy – guitar
 * Dave Kirby – guitar
 * Sorrells Pickard – guitar
 * Jerry Reed – guitar
 * Jerry Shook – guitar
 * Ben Keith – pedal steel guitar
 * Pete Drake – pedal steel guitar, producer
 * Roy Huskey – upright bass
 * Buddy Harman – drums
 * D. J. Fontana – drums
 * Jim Buchanan – fiddle
 * George Richey – fiddle
 * Grover Lavender – fiddle
 * Charlie McCoy – harmonica
 * The Jordanaires – backing vocals
 * Jeannie Kendall (of The Kendalls) – backing vocals on "I Wouldn't Have You Any Other Way"
 * Scotty Moore – engineer

Legacy
All of the songs on the album were first released by Starr. In 1970 George Morgan released his version on "I Wouldn't Have You Any Other Way" as a single, produced by Pete Drake and engineered by Scotty Moore. It later appeared on the 1971 album Real George.

In 1971 Jerry Lee Lewis covered "I'd Be Talkin' All the Time" on There Must Be More to Love Than This, with Buddy Harman on drums.

In 1972 Sorrells Pickard, who played on the album and wrote four of the songs, released his own versions of "$15 Draw" and "Without Her" on his self-titled album, produced by Pete Drake.

In 1974 songwriter Buzz Rabin released his own version of "Beaucoups of Blues" on his album Cross Country Cowboy, produced by Pete Drake.

In 1976 Starr sang with Guthrie Thomas on Starr's own "Band of Steel" on Guthrie's album Lies and Alibis. The song was considered for inclusion on Beaucoups of Blues.

In 2012 Starr sang with Ray Wylie Hubbard on a cover of Starr's own "Coochy Coochy", on Hubbard's acclaimed album The Grifter's Hymnal.

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Tone, POV
The paragraph beginning 'Although it was extremely secret..." has numerous issues related to POV, encyclopedic tone, formatting, punctuation, etc. I made a number of changes but these were mostly to do with formatting...can't address anything factual at the moment but it could also use some citations. There are also a number of weasely phrases that aren't substantiated ("almost certainly", etc.) PurpleChez (talk) 20:10, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Why?
Why does the link for I’m A Fool To Care redirect to this Ringo Staff album? The song is but one of twelve tunes on the album. The album is a secondary source - the primary being the actual song written by Ted Daffan. 81.110.17.120 (talk) 18:09, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

A First Perhaps?
I am a little surprised that neither the Wikipedia article nor the one in Allmusic refers to this being one of the first albums of standards recorded by any pop music artist, maybe the very first. I certainly cannot think of another one. Dozens have been released since this one, by everyone from Linda Ronstadt to Rod Stewart to Willie Nelson to Cyndi Lauper. This is not the best of them by a long shot, but it sure got the ball rolling. And by the way, way too much is made of how Ringo can't sing. I hadn't realized until I read this article that "It Don't Come Easy" was recorded in the same time period; that is one of the best solo singles by any of the Beatles for my money. Shocking Blue (talk) 08:57, 10 June 2016 (UTC)


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Victoria, Johannesburg

Victoria is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality. It is a small suburb located north-east of the city centre surrounded by Norwood to its north, the Houghton Estate to its west and south, while Orange Grove lies to the east.

History
Victoria lies on land that once made up the farm called Klipfontein, one of many large farms that make what is Johannesburg and its suburbs. The suburb was proclaimed in December 1902. The land was owned by B.P. Viljoen and appears to be named after Queen Victoria who had died the year before.

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Wierda Valley

Wierda Valley is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is named after Sytze Wierda, the first architect and engineer to the South African Republic. It is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bio-hazard

Bio-hazard
identical page at biological hazard. someone w/ knowledge needs to merge info about UN numbers into the biological hazard article and fix the redirects, then delete Bubbachuck 02:19, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - as above - The Time Killer
 * Merge with biological hazard then delete. Xaa 00:54, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I have merged the content of this article with that of biological hazard and corrected links. This page is now truly redundant. It should be turned into a redirect page to biological hazard. Tyson2k 00:15, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to biological hazard. -- Reinyday


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Willowild

Willowild is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region B of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality. Willowild was originally a farm and dates from at least the early 20th century. The farm was subdivided and plots were sold off for residential development in 1970, leaving the original farmhouse on one of the plots.

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Evidence presented by Lbmixpro
In regards to the proposed finding-of-fact indicating I may have signed evidence 3a as DJ Clayworth. Please note that the diff of 3a actually spans 5 different edits, in which Clayworth was the editor of the third one. I have edited the 30 May entry to indicate exactly which edits I have made (links 3b 3c 3e and 3f) and which ones Clayworth made (3d). --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) 02:19, July 13, 2005 (UTC)


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Scout Promise

The Scout Promise (or Oath) is a spoken statement made by a child joining the Scout movement. Since the publication of Scouting for Boys in 1908, all Scouts and Girl Guides around the world have taken a Scout (or Guide) promise or oath to live up to ideals of the movement, and subscribed to a Scout Law. The wording of the Scout Promise and Scout Law have varied slightly over time and from country to country. Although most Scouting and Guiding organizations use the word "promise", a few such as the Boy Scouts of America tend to use "oath" instead.

Typically, Scouts and Guides will make the three-fingered Scout Sign when reciting the promise.

Original 1908 text
In his original book on Boy Scouting, Baden-Powell introduced the Scout Promise, as follows:

"Before he becomes a scout, a boy must take the scout's oath, thus:

 * 'On my honour I promise that—
 * I will do my duty to God and the King.
 * I will do my best to help others, whatever it costs me.
 * I know the scout law, and will obey it.'

While taking this oath the scout will stand, holding his right hand raised level with his shoulder, palm to the front, thumb resting on the nail of the little finger and the other three fingers upright, pointing upwards:—

This is the scout's salute and secret sign."

World Organization of the Scout Movement requirements
The form of the promise has varied slightly from country to country and over time, but must fulfill the requirements of the World Organization of the Scout Movement (WOSM) to qualify a National Scout Organization for membership. Together with clarifying its Scout Law, the Constitution of WOSM states:

"Article II, paragraph 2: 'Adherence to a Promise and Law' All members of the Scout Movement are required to adhere to a Scout Promise and Law reflecting, in language appropriate to the culture and civilization of each National Scout Organization and approved by the World Organization, the principles of Duty to God, Duty to others and Duty to self, and inspired by the Promise and Law originally conceived by the Founder of the Scout Movement in the following terms:

The Scout Promise On my honour I promise that I will do my best— To do my duty to God and the King (or to God and my Country); To help other people at all times; To obey the Scout Law."

In order to accommodate many different religions within Scouting, "God" may refer to a higher power, and is not specifically restricted to the God of the monotheistic religions. The WOSM Constitution explains "Duty to God" as "Adherence to spiritual principles, loyalty to the religion that expresses them and acceptance of the duties resulting therefrom."

The World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts (WAGGGS), which is a sister organization to WOSM, has the very same wording in their constitution (Part 4, Paragraph 2: Original Promise), and follows similar policies.

In 2014, the WOSM passed a resolution, "Spirituality in Scouting", recognizing the importance of spirituality, but without defining it with the word "God". The WOSM then convened a 2015 "Duty to God" task force, which in turn produced another draft resolution to be considered at the WOSM 2017 conference. The final 2017 resolution passed indicated a need for further investigation, and for WOSM to take into consideration a member organization's "culture and civilization" if asked to approve changes to their Promise or Law. Conversely, a member organization was asked to consider the global movement and its goals if it requested alternative wording. Implicit to both resolution statements was the possibility of introducing an alternative Promise or Law within a member organization.

Alternative promises
Although the Constitution of WOSM states that the Promise should include a reference to Duty to God, Scouting founder Lord Baden-Powell approved the use of promises with reference to a higher ideal, higher truth, an optional reference to God, or without a reference to God, for Belgium, Czechoslovakia, France, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and Finland. Three of these countries still offer this alternative promise (France, the Netherlands and Czech Republic). WOSM stated in 1932 that no new exceptions would be made and expressed the hope that the few remaining countries would stop using a promise without any reference to Duty to God.

The Israeli Scouts, though founded in 1919/1920, and joining WOSM in 1951 and WAGGGS in 1963, also have no "duty to God" or apparent equivalent in their promise. Adat HaTzofim, the religious Jewish Scouts in Israel, do have "duty to God" in their promise.

In 1969, the Eclaireuses et Eclaireurs israélites de France decided to discontinue using the reference to God due to its inconsistency with religious beliefs and practices from a Jewish perspective. Use of the word God (Dieu), derived from Zeus, can be seen as an inappropriate pagan reference in Jewish texts or education.

In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, some WOSM and WAGGGS affiliated organizations have introduced alternative promises for their programs, giving adherents a choice. Examples include Scouterna (Sweden), Scouts Australia, and Scouts Canada.

Non-WOSM Scouting
Scout sections that follow traditional Scouting, such as Baden-Powell Scouts within the World Federation of Independent Scouts, use several promises including the original Scout promise above that includes the reference to God. Some, however, for example the 1st Tarrant Scout Group in Fort Worth, Texas use a blend of the original promise and the "Outlander Promise" which, "according to tradition", B-P wrote for Scouts that had to omit the reference to God or a monarch for reasons of conscience.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dora Dymant

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The result of the debate was merge and redirect to Franz Kafka. -- BD2412 talk 03:02, July 23, 2005 (UTC)

Dora Dymant
Barely notable with Kafka and almost invisible without. brenneman (t) (c) 02:20, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Franz Kafka. Pburka 03:36, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect, and merge only that she lived with him. The rest of this sounds horridly suspicious.  They dreamed in 1924 (a single year) of moving to Tel-Aviv?  Was there a Tel-Aviv?  He wanted to be a waiter?  He then got into the Talmud?  Excuse me, but I want bullet proof references for every one of those statements, and even that she lived with him.  Geogre 15:48, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect warily. Yes, Tel Aviv has existed since 1909. Besides that, it all seems flimsy. royblumy 22:09, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect per Pburka. Dcarrano 16:03, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree that the article I wrote doesn't meet the requirements, and I'm surely after the deletion. Most of the information is gotten from Kafka for beginners by David Zane Mairowitz & Robert Crumb. — Amakuha 23:52, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
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Woodlands, Johannesburg

Woodlands is a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa. It is located in Region E of the City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stuck In Kaos

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The result of the debate was DELETE jni 11:15, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Stuck In Kaos
Bandcruft -Tydaj 02:20, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Band vanity.  No AMG entry, no listing on amazon.com.  Some web presence, but according to their website, their only album was "recorded ourselves in the basement of our then band room to set our songs in concrete and to get something out there to start promoting ourselves."  Their upcoming second album, which also appears to be self-recorded due to the glaring lack of a label mention, will only be sold at their live shows and through their website.  Stuck in nonnotability...  Postdlf 03:02, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete, vanity. Benna 05:21, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete non notable band vanity. JamesBurns 08:29, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails to meet WP:MUSIC guidelines. the wub  "?/!"  12:06, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn royblumy 22:05, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn band vanity. --Etacar11 22:57, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
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