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Talk:National Council Against Health Fraud

NCAHF's relationship with AMA
NCAHF functioned as a subcommittee to AMAs forbidden committee agains quackery.http://buggesblogg.blogspot.se/search?updated-min=2011-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2012-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=5  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Möteimonsunen (talk • contribs) 05:47, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Sorry, but that untrue statement is from a libelous source (Lisa's writings have been the subject of lawsuits, IIRC), on a non-RS we can't use here. -- Brangifer (talk) 07:36, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

 * DR Lisa is not guilty to any crime.Why dont you give sources to your slander.--Möteimonsunen (talk) 07:47, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

 * I believe Barrett sued Lisa for making such statements but was unsuccessful, which is a quirk of American law. As a public person, Barrett isn't protected against libel very well. Lisa has never provided any evidence that his statements were true, but many have quoted him. It's just his conspiracy theory. Since there is no evidence, the statements aren't considered reliable for use here. That's just the way it is. As potentially libelous statements, they violate our BLP policy and have been removed every time someone like you has attempted to add them. Even if they were true, it would be an honorable thing, since it's a good thing to oppose quackery and health fraud. It is only those who support and defend it who trot out these old writings by Lisa. -- Brangifer (talk) 14:50, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The book "The Assault On Medical Freedom" a book by P. Joseph Lisa c 1994 is a reliable source you can buy the book in every country including USA. You know Stephen Barrett lost a law suit to Ilena Rosentahl and he had to pay her costs, and there is a ongoing process against stephen Barrett today. Doctors Data versus Barrett. Stephen Barrett is he really a reliable source? He is connected to the lobby organisation ACSH. You give NO sources at all only personal opinions, and that is NOT reliable source.--Möteimonsunen (talk) 22:08, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not a reliable source.
 * Please check your English, as much of what you've written is hard to make sense of, including what you've tried to include in the article.
 * This page is to discuss improvements to this article. Other discussion, especially defamatory comments aimed at others, is inappropriate.
 * Please refrain from making defamatory comments and otherwise presenting dubious information about living persons in violation of WP:BLP.
 * Please stop restoring the material. --Ronz (talk) 22:28, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The article have many weaknesses. How many members are there in NCAHF? Or is a "Potemkin" organisation. The NCAHF is suporting mercury in dental fillings. In Scandinavian Countries is that forbidden. WHO is trying to decrease the use of mercury. Pro mercury propaganda seems as health fraud to me.--Möteimonsunen (talk) 22:37, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This page is for discussing improvements to the article. Opinions not verifiable by reliable sources don't belong here. --Ronz (talk) 22:52, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

NCAHF and the law
A section about NCAHFs legal actions is necessary. See : Censored by wikipedia !!!--Möteimonsunen (talk) 08:18, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, I tend to agree with you, but we would need a reliable, nonlibelous source commenting on NCAHF's participation in lawsuits. In particular, the Ilena lawsuit was interesting, in regard Ilena's action, but not really in regard Barrett's and NCAHF was not a party at all.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 14:39, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Check these documents:

Case 1:10-cv-03795 document#:105 Filed:04/17/12 Page 10f 7 Page ID #:1154

In the united states District court for the northern District of Illinois Eastern Division.

Doctors data, inc   Plaintiff

v.

Stephen J. Barrett, M.D., National Council against Health fraud, inc., and QACKWATCH, inc., A dissolved corporation,                    Defendants.

You can find the document on internet. --Möteimonsunen (talk) 06:13, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Here is one link to the latest case: http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/illinois/ilndce/1:2010cv03795/244564/82/0.pdf?1322081067  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Möteimonsunen (talk • contribs) 06:23, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * http://statecasefiles.justia.com/documents/california/supreme-court/s122953.pdf?ts=1323887082--Möteimonsunen (talk) 06:36, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, so I was wrong about NCAHF not being a party. My mistake.   However, We have an article about that case.  There's little reason it should be more than mentioned here, and the actual court documents are primary sources, unusable per WP:BLPPRIMARY, at least insofar as you are confusing NCAHF with Barrett.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 06:52, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Why do you want to hide all the legal cases NCAHF are invold in ? This for exampel http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/illinois/ilndce/1:2010cv03795/244564/82/0.pdf?1322081067 ?--Möteimonsunen (talk) 08:06, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I think this source must be a reliable source, if any:  http://www.justia.com/  --Möteimonsunen (talk) 09:53, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It (justia) is essentially a primary source. There's no commentary about the lawsuits, and whether they are justified.  (Being dismissed doesn't mean it was unjustified; Barrett v. Rosenthal was a "case of first impression", although it appears no lawyers now claim to have doubted the outcome.)  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 15:15, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Dan Burton WP:SYN
Two sources... One says Burton said something critical about NCAHF; the other says Burton is a friend to the supplement lobby. The second source has nothing to do with NCAHF, but it is being used here to imply a qualification about Burton's ability to offer a neutral opinion about NCAHF. This is a clear SYN vio and it thusly creates a BLP issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.157 (talk) 15:22, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but that's simply not a syn violation by any stretch of the imagination. --Ronz (talk) 15:32, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Textbook SYN. This is A + B to imply some conclusion C. Worse, it is causing a BLP issue as a result. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.172 (talk) 16:16, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * How many more sources do we need to demonstrate Burton's perspective on the supplement industry? --Ronz (talk) 16:23, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Why is his perspective on supplements relevant here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.160 (talk) 16:28, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Why is his perspective notable at all for that matter?
 * As I wrote, " lots of sources available for almost identical characterizations" --Ronz (talk) 16:31, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * But why is a characterization of Burton's ties to the supplement industry relevant here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.170 (talk) 16:33, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * NPOV. Specifically, context. By removing relevant context, it's a NPOV violation. But without a secondary source, it doesn't belong to begin. --Ronz (talk) 16:41, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Are we going to start labeling and removing all primary sourced info from this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.153 (talk) 16:52, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Can we stay on topic please? --Ronz (talk) 16:55, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Just making sure you are going to be okay when I apply the same reasoning you are making to other parts of this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.151 (talk) 17:03, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You have not exhibited any reasoning. The addition of Burton's credentials may be a WP:SYN violation, but it is required to avoid WP:NPOV violations.  Burton's POV is relevant to the weight any statements of his may be given.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 17:28, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Explain why NPOV is applicable here. I would argue that introducing the SYN violation also creates bias and therefore also violates NPOV.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.165 (talk) 18:05, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Have you read the explanation already provided? Please indicate you have and what additional clarification is required for you to understand what we're discussing. --Ronz (talk) 19:34, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I have, and I don't require further clarification. I perfectly understand that including Burton's relationship to the supplement industry without a source telling us why it is relevant to his position on NCAHF creates a SYN violation. Do you understand this? Have you read my responses? Please indicate you have and then feel free to respond to those directly.
 * If you are not going to address the questions, we have consensus to revert back. We can block the article from any editing as well if needed. --Ronz (talk) 00:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Which questions would you like me to address? I sure have a few above which you have not addressed. And we don't have a consensus. I don't consent to it being reverted to a SYN violation. Arthur Rubin agrees that it is a SYN vio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)
 * I said it might be a SYN violation, but your preferred version is a clear NPOV violation. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 05:03, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thinking it over, it does appear to be WP:SYN. Removing entirely.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 05:25, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Back to this article again... A quick check reveals a different type of problem. The sources don't seem to back up the content! At some point in time this seems to have been changed. I was remembering a different version all along, where the content had exact quotes which backed up the content. If I'm the first one to add this content, then it was done properly in the beginning, because I'm very careful about sourcing. It's a pet peeve of mine. Several years ago it was okay. I don't know what's happened since, but the sources may have been edited. I agree with Arthur's solution. Let's leave it out for now and fix it before restoring it, if ever. -- Brangifer (talk) 05:55, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Additional Sources
Maybe we can use http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/01/rep-dan-burton-goodbye-and-good-riddance ?

http://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/news/2012/01/industry-advocate-rep-dan-burton-to-retire.aspx should be fine to use. --Ronz (talk) 17:13, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * These sources say nothing about NCAHF and thus would also cause a SYN violation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.176 (talk • contribs) 17:17, 11 September 2013
 * Why do you believe they have to? Have you read this article? --Ronz (talk) 19:31, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll rephrase for you: These sources say nothing about Burton's relationship with the supplement industry being relevant to his position on NCAHF and thus would also cause a SYN violation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.167 (talk) 19:38, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Please explain why you think there's a syn violation in further detail. Yes, he's made criticism of NCAHF. Yes, he's a notable proponent of the supplement industry, ( and anti-vaccination proponents for that matter). How someone can think the facts aren't relevant is beyond me. --Ronz (talk) 00:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Because the information about Burton's relationship with the supplement industry is being used to imply a conclusion that his opinion of NCAHF is tainted. This conclusion is synthesized. It doesn't exist in any source. This is a prime example of SYN. Do you see it now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)
 * There is absolutely no doubt that Burton's association with the supplement industry is relevant to his attacks on "enemies" of that industry. I wouldn't call it a "taint", but I can why you might think that.  It's clearly an NPOV violation to list Burton's comments on NCAHF without noting his association with the industry.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 05:02, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Now tagged both for importance and the NPOV violation being discussed here. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 05:13, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I think the debate is moot, given that neither Ronz nor myself can verify the criticism in the source provided. Regardless, I would maintain my position if it were verified. I've taken you step-by-step through the SYN policy to illustrate the violation (which in turn causes a BLP violation, so Brangifer's kind warnings about vandalism are not applicable). Please do the same to show me why you believe it is an NPOV vio to leave it out. Bear in mind that while you can feel that information from a tangential source is relevant, Wikipedia is not built on editors' feelings. You need a source which verifies the relevance. Step back and think about this. You're saying that in order to maintain a neutral POV, we need to synthesize a biased POV. That is completely paradoxical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.154 (talk) 15:38, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Verify please
I cannot verify the statement. Can someone please quote the relevant information from the reference? --Ronz (talk) 00:23, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't verify it either. Maybe this whole thing in synthesis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.152 (talk) 04:01, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Searching the history, trying to figure out why it was added:
 * Perhaps the first addition of the reference is here with the Dynamic Chiropractic reference that now redirects to http://www.dynamicchiropractic.com/mpacms/dc/article.php?id=45700 which is still used as a source today.
 * Attribution to Burton occurred here.

I'd say it was a mistake. Is there something from Dynamic Chiropractic that we could use instead? --Ronz (talk) 16:08, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Based on this, we should lose the Quack Watch source all together and mention of Rep. Burton. We can still include the criticism, but source it to The chiropractor website, which generally makes that critique — that NCAHF is not a government agency. But I don't think the source criticizes it for that. The most critics comes in the form of the NCAHF's data on chiropractic being dated and inaccurate. I actually think the chiropractor website article is surprisingly neutral with regard to NCAHF. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.170 (talk) 22:03, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with the first, but the chiropractic websites are only usable for their own opinion, which is not similar to that of Mr. Burton. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 05:25, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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U.S. Representative Dan Burton, a strong advocate of the dietary supplement industry, has stated that it is not in the public interest for a health fraud watch group such as NCAHF to operate unrestrained and unendorsed by the government.

Sock puppetry problem
See: Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of 198.228.216.168

We have a case of an IP hopping editor, most likely a dynamic IP, but that automatically creates a sock puppetry problem. Please create an account. Normally registration is required, but in these situations that is the only solution to avoid policy violations. I recommend an anonymous account and then always log in.

If the IP editor wishes to be taken seriously (and their concerns do deserve attention), they should edit properly. As it is, all their edits, regardless of their legitimacy, can be deleted and/or reverted on sight, since sock puppets are not tolerated here. Only editors who follow our policies have a right to edit or comment here. Please cooperate. You have a lot to gain and nothing to lose. You will have more privacy, more abilities, tools, rights, and privileges, and gain the respect which IPs do not enjoy. Like it or not, that's the way it is, and for good reason.

I have requested page protection. -- Brangifer (talk) 07:11, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

 * No sock puppetry here. I have a dynamic IP. I don't have nor want a user account. I think it is terrible that you can't treat me respectfully without me creating an anonymous account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.158 (talk) 15:42, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

 * It appears you do not understand what we mean by a sock puppet. "The general rule is one editor, one account," and multiple accounts are generally not allowed. All accounts or IPs other than one's main account are referred to as socks/sock puppets, regardless of whether they are "legitimate" or not. We do allow a very limited use of socks for "legitimate" and relatively specific reasons which don't apply to you in this situation.

 * I suggest you read about the advantages of creating an account. You are at a distinct disadvantage without one.

 * Regardless of your intentions, using multiple IPs violates our policy against "avoiding scrutiny":

 * Avoiding scrutiny: Using alternative accounts that are not fully and openly disclosed to split your editing history means that other editors may not be able to detect patterns in your contributions. While this is permitted in certain circumstances (see legitimate uses), it is a violation of this policy to create alternative accounts to confuse or deceive editors who may have a legitimate interest in reviewing your contributions.

 * Your edit history is split up all over the place so other editors (and yourself!) would have great difficulty in reviewing your contributions. We don't do things in secret here, and you have no right to secrecy.

 * When an editor's actions create disruption, other editors have a right to request that they stop the disruption. Your use of multiple IPs is doing just that, and you have been requested by several editors and administrators to create an account so your edits are collected into one contribution history. Because of YOUR actions, an article is now semi-protected because of persistent sock puppetry, so your actions are indeed disruptive.

 * Failure to comply indicates a lack of the collaborative spirit demanded of all editors. That alone means you don't belong here, so show some sign that you can collaborate. -- Brangifer (talk) 06:42, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

 * I interpret this as: "I can't defend my POV edit, so instead I will assume bad faith about an IP editor, and prevent him from editing the article. Meanwhile, the SYN/BLP vio gets reinstated, but I'll look the other way because it supports my POV." And now you will say that I am assuming bad faith, but deep down past your feigned righteous indignation, you know that I am right about this SYN/BLP. Regardless, I think the whole thing ought to be removed since it is not supported by the given sources. Edit history shows you were the one to add it in the first place. Care to comment? I have offered detailed explanation of the SYN violation. All you've done is revert warred and commented on me. You want collaborative spirit? How about you start by discussing content policy with me? Until you do, I will assume that you are avoiding the discussion because you know I'm right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.37 (talk) 19:46, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

 * You can interpret it as you will, but you're wrong. Your edit clearly violates WP:NPOV, as Dan Burton's opinion has no notability except as a supporter of the supplement industry, and it would be wrong to omit the fact.  My opinion is that Burton's opinion should be omitted unless a reliable source can be found which both notes the opinion and his background.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 05:15, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

 * As for sock-hopping, I disagree with Brangifer. Your edits would be disruptive whether or not you opened an account, but an account could be blocked, and we don't want to block your entire community for your misdeeds.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 05:17, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

 * What did I do that was so disruptive? You now agree that there was a SYN issue... specifically concerning a living person. I removed the obvious SYN and thus a likely BLP. What I did was perfectly inline with Wikipedia. I would say that the response I received was disruptive. The edit warring without addressing the SYN violation in a collaborative way was disruptive. The disrespect I received because I don't have a registered account was disruptive. It's funny, because in the end you agree with what I've been contending from the start. You even took the precise action I recommended. Well, my work here is done. Time to vanish. POOF! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.216.40 (talk) 06:32, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

 * Your violation of our sockpuppetry policy is disruptive. That was and still is my objection. Regardless of the rightness of your cause, you have no right to edit or comment while violating that policy. Period. You only have a right to read content. Can you understand that? Because of that, whatever you said was immaterial, even if right. I really wanted to consider your concerns because they might have legitimacy, and they apparently did. Good for you. Your concerns would have been taken seriously by me if you hadn't been socking. Your violation of policy prevented me from extending a courtesy you did not deserve. I do not support sock puppets. I'm surprised other editors did not do what we have often done, and that is to simply delete all comments and revert all edits. Your disruption caused the semi-protection of this article to ALL IP edits. To that degree, your disruption was taken seriously.

 * I made it quite clear in my opening comment in this thread that I was not assuming bad faith, as you falsely accuse me. I stated: (and their concerns do deserve attention),.. Yes, your concerns deserved attention, I admitted that, and I was hoping that you would cooperate so we could move on and do something about them. You refused to cooperate. That's not the spirit we need here.

 * Other than all that, you have good potential. You could be a good member of our community if you would only follow policy. If you're not willing to do that, you don't deserve any help and will be watched with a decidedly negative eye by many because you deserve nothing better. Socking is a serious matter. It's your call. -- Brangifer (talk) 07:20, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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Copyright Issue
As I warned MikeL12348 in January, the recent text appears to have added presumably copyrighted material (as seen here, as "CALIFORNIA COURT OF APPEAL HANDS DOWN LANDMARK RULING IN FAVOR OF HOMEOPATHY - BARRETT DEFEATED ONCE AGAIN!") without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. What I didn't remember to do was request revision deletion, though I suppose I should do that now. It would be revisions and  --tronvillain (talk) 21:58, 5 November 2018 (UTC)


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Softly, Softly (song)

"Softly, Softly" is a popular song originally written in French as "La tamise et mon jardin" by Pierre Dudan. The song was given English lyrics in 1954 by BBC executive Robin Scott (using the "Mark Paul" pseudonym) and entertainer Paddy Roberts.

The most popular version of the song was recorded by Northern Irish singer Ruby Murray in January 1955. Produced by Norrie Paramor, it reached No. 1 in the UK Singles Chart for three weeks in February and March 1955.

Other recordings were made in 1955 by Jaye P. Morgan and by Alma Cogan.

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

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User talk:Bjwebb/Eighth Doctor

Grace isn't really a companion as she didn't travel in the TARDIS. The only companions are spinoff like Benny, Ssard, Stacy etc.--84.12.186.20 17:51, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

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Senbei

Senbei are a type of Japanese rice cracker. They come in various shapes, sizes, and flavors, usually savory but sometimes sweet. Senbei are often eaten with green tea as a casual snack and offered to visiting house guests as a courtesy refreshment.

There are several types of traditional Japanese senbei. They can be baked or deep-fried and sometimes sweetened. Aside from rice, wheat flour or starch can be used. Some varieties even use foods other than grains, such as sakana senbei (fish-senbei), renkon senbei (lotus root senbei) and hone senbei (bone-senbei).

Senbei have several variations, including nori-wrapped, arare, Olive no Hana, soy nut, and wet. Thin rice crackers (薄焼きせんべい usuyaki senbei) are popular in Australia and other countries.

In China, the same characters used to write senbei are read jiānbǐng ; the term instead refers to a crepe and is more similar in preparation to okonomiyaki among Japanese foods. In Japan, senbei are hard and crispy, and are bite-sized snacks rather than street-food meals. However, crackers similar to Japanese senbei can be found in China today and their modern Chinese name is, which reflects the Japanese-language pronunciation of "senbei" (煎餅).

Preparation
Senbei are made from glutinous rice which has been steamed for 15 to 20 minutes before being pounded into dough. After several days of refrigeration, the dough is cut into shapes.

Senbei are usually cooked by being baked or grilled, traditionally over charcoal. While being prepared they may be brushed with a flavoring sauce, often one made of soy sauce and mirin. They may then be wrapped with a layer of nori. Alternatively they may be flavored with salt or "salad" flavoring, among others.

History
Sweet senbei (甘味煎餅) came to Japan during the Tang dynasty, with the first recorded usage in 737 AD, and still are very similar to Tang traditional styles, originally often baked in the Kansai area, of which include the traditional "roof tile" senbei. These include ingredients like potato and wheat flour or glutinous rice, and are similar to castella cakes, distinctly different from what most people would consider as senbei today, though traditional senbei such as this can still be found, e.g. Iga meibutsu katayaki, in Iga City.

What Japanese commonly refer to as senbei nowadays were popularized by a teahouse in Sōka city in the Edo period, which spread salty soy sauce flavored senbei throughout Japan.

Modern senbei versions are very inventive and may include flavorings which can range from kimchi to wasabi to curry to chocolate.

Kansai senbei tend to use glutinous rice and are lightly seasoned and delicate in texture (saku saku). Kantō senbei were originally based on uruchimai, a non-glutinous rice, and they tend to be more crunchy (kari kari) and richly flavored.

Types

 * Age senbei (fried senbei)
 * Atsuyaki senbei (thick senbei)
 * Kometsubu senbei (grains of rice senbei)
 * Nori senbei (seaweed senbei)
 * Nure senbei (wet senbei)
 * Satou senbei (sugar senbei)
 * Salad senbei (salad flavored senbei)
 * Usuyaki senbei (thin senbei)
 * Zarame senbei (granulated sugar senbei)

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Marie Myriam

Marie Myriam (born Myriam Lopes, 8 May 1957, Luluabourg, Belgian Congo, (now Democratic Republic of the Congo) is a French singer.

Career
Representing France, she won the Eurovision Song Contest in 1977 with L'oiseau et l'enfant ("The bird and the child") the day before her 20th birthday, with music by Jean Paul Cara and words by Joe Gracy. The single reached No. 42 in the UK Singles Chart in June 1977. This achievement made her the first Eurovision winner to be born after the creation of the contest itself.

In 1981, Myriam also represented France in the Yamaha Music Festival with the song "Sentimentale"; she came in ninth place. In recent years, she has read out the votes of the French Jury at the Eurovision Song Contest.

Myriam made an appearance at the 50th anniversary concert in Copenhagen, Denmark, in October 2005 as a guest presenter and performer. The same year, she wrote the introduction to the French edition of The Eurovision Song Contest – The Official History by John Kennedy O'Connor.

Personal life
Myriam was married to music producer Michel Elmosnino from the late 1970s until his death at age 67 on 20 December 2013. The marriage produced two children: Laureen, born 1982, now master of ceremony and Rick, born in 1990, assistant director and photographer.

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Memorex

Memorex Corp. began as a computer tape producer and expanded to become both a consumer media supplier and a major IBM plug compatible peripheral supplier. It was broken up and ceased to exist after 1996 other than as a consumer electronics brand specializing in disk recordable media for CD and DVD drives, flash memory, computer accessories and other electronics.

History and evolution
Established in 1961 in Silicon Valley, Memorex started by selling computer tapes, then added other media such as disk packs. The company then expanded into disk drives and other peripheral equipment for IBM mainframes. During the 1970s and into the early 1980s, Memorex was worldwide one of the largest independent suppliers of disk drives and communications controllers to users of IBM-compatible mainframes, as well as media for computer uses and consumers. The company's name is a portmanteau of "memory excellence".

Memorex entered the consumer media business in 1971 and started the ad campaign, first with its "shattering glass" advertisements and then with a series of legendary television commercials featuring Ella Fitzgerald. In the commercials, she would sing a note that shattered a glass while being recorded to a Memorex audio cassette. The tape was played back and the recording also broke the glass, asking "Is it live, or is it Memorex?" This would become the company slogan which was used in a series of advertisements released through 1970s and 1980s.

In 1982, Memorex was bought by Burroughs for its enterprise businesses; the company’s consumer business, a small segment of the company’s revenue at that time was sold to Tandy. Over the next six years, Burroughs and its successor Unisys shut down, sold off or spun out the various remaining parts of Memorex.

The computer media, communications and IBM end user sales and service organization were spun out as Memorex International. In 1988, Memorex International acquired the Telex Corporation becoming Memorex Telex NV, a corporation based in the Netherlands, which survived as an entity until the middle 1990s. The company evolved into a provider of information technology solutions including the distribution and integration of data network and storage products and the provision of related services in 18 countries worldwide. As late as 2006, several pieces existed as subsidiaries of other companies, see e.g., Memorex Telex Japan Ltd a subsidiary of Kanematsu or Memorex Telex (UK) Ltd. a subsidiary of EDS Global Field Services.

Over time the Memorex consumer brand has been owned by Tandy, Hanny Holdings and Imation. As of 2016, the Memorex brand is owned by Digital Products International (DPI).

Timeline

 * 1961 – Memorex is founded by Laurence L. Spitters, Arnold T. Challman, Donald F. Eldridge and W Lawrence Noon with Spitters as president.
 * 1962 – Memorex is one of the early independent companies to ship computer tape.
 * May 1965 – Memorex IPO's at $25 and closes at $32.
 * 1966 – Memorex is first independent company to ship a disk pack.
 * Jun 1968 – Memorex is first to ship an IBM-plug-compatible disk drive
 * 1970 – Memorex ships 1270 Communications Controller, an IBM 27xx/37xx compatible terminal controller
 * 1971 – With CBS Memorex forms CMX Systems, a company formed to design videotape editing systems
 * Sep 1971 – Memorex launches its consumer tape business
 * 1972 – Memorex launches its "Is it live, or is it Memorex?" campaign
 * Apr 1981 – Burroughs acquires Memorex
 * Apr 1982 – Burroughs sells Memorex consumer brand to Tandy
 * May 1985 – Burroughs exits OEM disk drive business, selling sales and service to Toshiba
 * Sep 1986 – Burroughs acquires Sperry and renames itself as Unisys
 * Dec 1986 – Unisys spins off Memorex Media, Telecommunications and International businesses as Memorex International NV.
 * Jan 1988 – Memorex-Telex merger
 * Dec 1988 – Unisys mainly shuts down large disk business and spins off service and repair as Sequel.
 * Nov 1993 – Tandy sells Memorex consumer brand to Hanny Holdings of Hong Kong
 * Oct 1996 – The U.S. operations of Memorex Telex NV filed for bankruptcy and with court approval were sold November 1, 1996.
 * Jan 2006 – Imation acquires Memorex brand for $330 million.
 * Jan 2016 – Imation closed on the sale of its Memorex trademark and two associated trademark licenses to DPI Inc., a St. Louis-based branded consumer electronics company for $9.4 million.
 * Jan 2024 – Finest Brands, Inc. a Los Angeles-based brand management firm, announces its acquisition of the Memorex brand, its associated global trademark and IP portfolio and its licensees. The terms of the deal were not disclosed.

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Speedy delete. This was an advance fee fraud letter (sample contents: "My name is Mrs. Fizah Hassani Ibrahim from Iraq." "I will issue you a letter of authority that will empower you as the original-beneficiary of this fund.") masquerading as an article, with no history. I've deleted it under CSD criterion G3. Although, strictly, this stretches the criterion somewhat, I suspect that the community will not object. Uncle G 03:22, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

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Delete This looks like an email scam, copy-pasted onto a page. --Icelight 17:56, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

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