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Do Not EDIT, The school chooses to tell the world about it, dont edit because we are slowly adding info to it

We choose to tell others what this school has, we have the right to add information, such as the teachers and courses. Wikipedia is after all a wealth of information, and information about the school is information. - You wouldn't know,you not a student at NSS. Will - I removed some POV words, though much remains. I think the only main notable part of the school, is the mildly notable alumni. Nobody Few care if the school has a "surprisingly rich culture and vigorous academic program". I suspect all schools claim the same. --rob 07:49, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

To the above comments. Please be aware, that wikipedia is not a free web host, and is not a place to promote a school. No page in wikipedia belongs to one person, or one group. Large amounts of content which is only of interest to a very small group should not be included in wikipedia. Please read WP:NOT for details of what is and is not allowed. You are more than welcome to edit/improve this or other articles, but understand all your edits will be reviewed by other editors, and you will not have any article left to you alone. Students and/or staff from NSS have no more/less right to edit this article, than anybody else. --rob 03:08, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi, this school is included in Wikipedia mainly because of some of it's notable alumni and programs. It is true that POV should be avoided, however, most of the edits made by people like Thievvr (sp?) include POV which are negative towards the school. Ex. the phrase "The music program is lively, despite the fact that Northern is not known for its music." clearly shows a negative attitude towards the school. It is suspected that they may be students/staff of rival institutions. 21:18, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

 * The spelling is "thivierr", and no, I did not make those changes. It was "140.180.163.212", who did it on "14 May 2005".  You can see the full, and large, addition they made here.  Read, and it will be obvious, that the anon editor was overwhelmingly pro-scool, and the example you gave was, when put in context, one small qualifier.  You'll note from history, that my first edit, was the next one, where I added Sally Gifford to the alumni list.  I had been working on her article, and when I found she went to this school, I thought to add her here, and that's why I edited this article in the first place.  I challenge you to find a single unfair POV change I made to this article, and link to it.  Also, my adding of two Order of Canada winners (Carnegie and Johnson) is hardly "negative".  p.s.  I'm far from Toronto, never heard of NSS till this year, and can assure you that I'm not with a "rival" institution.  This is a public school, and I doubt it even has a "rival" institution.  --rob 23:07, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

 * It does have rivls...just no one cares too much. Trust me, I am a former student. By the way, I thought there was a big list of former alumni that I cannot see anymore. Nlsanand 18:13, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I put it back. Everybody should take a read, and double check if anything is still missing.  I think somebody's browser had a glitch, which caused some text to be lost unintentionally (the editor responsible is not a vandal, so it was probably just software).  --Rob 00:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I added in the trivia section with an interesting tidbit. -John John Newton 21:44, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Removed Plays
I removed the reference to the plays at Northern. I attended in 2004-2006 and the plays weren't that big within the school. They are hardly notable. Also it skipped the 2005 production. --J2000ca 06:40, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Removed School Council Info and vandalism
The school council at NSS is not complicated to the point of noteworthiness. Also removed what was basically vandalism -- just slander towards the school (vermin infestations, etc.) and reworded part of the football section for grammar. I strongly recommend that any info about the school council remains out of the article, seeing as it is continually replaced with increasingly irellevant information. Zorath 23:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Field controversy section
I deleted the new field controversy section because there were some essential factual errors such as the claim that the new field fundraising was left up to students rather than a combined effort of students, parents and local residents, amongst many other mistakes. I would challenge the objectivity of the author. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loureid2008x (talk • contribs) 18:48, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I restored it since it was sourced properly. If there are errors, please correct them. Thanks, Double Blue  (Talk) 20:30, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Deleted photo request
Since there is a photo of the school already in the article I have deleted the photo request banner. DQweny (talk) 22:41, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Security
I removed the information regarding the 2007 stabbing death. It should be re-inserted into the article, but connecting it to the use of lanyards and on-duty police officer is dishonest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.93.112.170 (talk) 07:16, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

To clarify: those two security measures were introduced over 2 years after the death in question (which did not occur on or anywhere near the school), and the death did not factor into the public discussion at the time. To rely on it as justification for the new security measures is extremely disrespectful to the young person who died. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.93.112.170 (talk) 17:00, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi everyone/ I am looking for a long ago friend and co-worker who used to attend Northern Secondary School and used to be a cheerleader. I am not sure what year she attended Northern but we worked together in Ivy Lea Ontario at Mount Ary in the early 1960s. The person I would love to locate is Sirkka Kettunen, she has or had a sister named Hilda. We had great times working together and I would love to reconnect and find out how things have gone for her over the years, I think of her often and have the Article that was in the Toronto news paper re: the Reunion of maybe the 1970s or so. The article is pretty tattered as I have carried it around for many many years. My name was Susan McConnell, email is sue.defoor@yahoo.ca. Sure would any help anyone can give me in my search for Sirkka. Thanks in advance

Sue DeFoor (McConnell) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.54.70.79 (talk) 23:33, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

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John Fieldhouse, Baron Fieldhouse

Admiral of the Fleet John David Elliott Fieldhouse, Baron Fieldhouse, (12 February 1928 – 17 February 1992) was a Royal Navy officer. He commanded five submarines and a frigate before achieving higher command from the 1970s. Following the invasion of the Falkland Islands by Argentine forces in April 1982, Fieldhouse was appointed Commander of the Task Force (designated Task Force 317) given responsibility for "Operation Corporate", the mission to recover the Falkland Islands. The campaign ended in the surrender of Argentine forces in June 1982. He became First Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Staff in December that year and, in that role, persuaded the British Government to fund the replacement of ships lost in the Falklands War. He went on to be Chief of the Defence Staff from 1985 until his retirement in 1988.

Early life
Born in Leeds to Sir Harold Fieldhouse, who had been secretary of the National Assistance Board, and Mabel Elaine Fieldhouse (née Elliott), Fieldhouse was educated at the Royal Naval College, Dartmouth.

Naval career
Fieldhouse joined the Royal Navy as a cadet in 1944. He was promoted to midshipman on 1 September 1945 and posted to the cruiser HMS Norfolk (78) in November. Promoted to sub-lieutenant on 1 May 1947, he joined the Submarine Service in 1948 and was posted to the submarine HMS Thule (P325) in March 1949. He was promoted to lieutenant on 1 October and subsequently served in the submarines HMS Astute (P447), HMS Aeneas (P427) and then HMS Totem (P352). He completed the Submarine Command Course in 1955.

Fieldhouse took command of his first submarine, HMS Subtle (P251), in January 1956 and went on to command the submarine HMS Acheron (P411) in March. Promoted to lieutenant commander on 1 October 1957, he took command of the submarine HMS Tiptoe (P332) in June 1958 and then joined the Department of Nuclear Science and Engineering at the Royal Naval College, Greenwich. He went on to command the submarine HMS Walrus (S08) from January 1961 and was promoted to commander on 31 December. In July 1964 he took command of HMS Dreadnought (S101), the Royal Navy's first nuclear submarine. He attended the Joint Service Defence College in 1966, after which he became second-in-command of the aircraft carrier HMS Hermes (R12). With Hermes, Fieldhouse was involved in the preparation for the British withdrawal from Aden during the Aden Emergency. Promoted to captain on 31 December 1967, he moved to Faslane Naval Base, Scotland to command the 10th Submarine Squadron of Resolution-class submarines. From October 1970, he commanded HMS Diomede (F16), a frigate, as part of his overall command of the 3rd Frigate Squadron.

In 1972, with his promotion to commodore, Fieldhouse took command of the Standing Naval Force Atlantic. He then moved to the Ministry of Defence, initially as Deputy Director of Naval Warfare and then, from November 1973, as Director of Naval Warfare. He was appointed Flag Officer, Second Flotilla in December 1974, promoted to rear admiral on 7 January 1975, and became Flag Officer Submarines as well as NATO Commander Submarines Eastern Atlantic in November 1976. He was promoted to vice admiral on 1 April 1978, and became Controller of the Navy in January 1979. He was appointed a Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath in 1980 New Year Honours.

Fieldhouse became Commander-in-Chief Fleet and NATO Commander-in-Chief, Channel and Commander-in-Chief Eastern Atlantic in April 1981, and received promotion to full admiral on 23 July 1981. Following the invasion of the Falkland Islands by Argentine forces in April 1982, Fieldhouse was appointed Commander of the Task Force (designated Task Force 317) given responsibility for "Operation Corporate", the mission to recover the Falkland Islands. He conducted the campaign, which ended in the surrender of Argentine forces in June 1982, from the Northwood Command Centre. He was advanced to Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the Bath in the 1982 Birthday Honours and appointed a Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire on 11 October 1982 "in recognition of service within the operations in the South Atlantic".

Fieldhouse became First Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Staff on 1 December 1982: in that role he persuaded the British Government to fund the replacement of ships lost in the Falklands War. He was promoted to Admiral of the Fleet on 2 August 1985 and became Chief of the Defence Staff later that month. He stepped down as Chief in December 1988, and retired from the Navy in May 1989.

Later life
Fieldhouse was made a life peer as Baron Fieldhouse, of Gosport in the County of Hampshire in 1990. In retirement he became a consultant to Vosper Thornycroft plc and his interests included sailing. In 1992 he had a major heart operation in Southampton General Hospital, subsequent to which he caught an infection and died there on 17 February 1992 at the age of 64.

Family
In 1953 Fieldhouse married Margaret (Midge) Cull; they had a son and two daughters.

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Waterfall Bay, Hong Kong

Waterfall Bay or Pok Po Wan is a bay in Pok Fu Lam, Hong Kong Island, Hong Kong. Located on the East Lamma Channel off the coast of Wah Fu Estate and Cyberport at Telegraph Bay, it is named after the waterfall that flows into it. The fresh water from this waterfall is said to have given the city its name – the translation of Hong Kong's name in Cantonese 香港 means "fragrant harbour". An eponymous park is now situated around the area.

Location
Waterfall Bay is located in the Pok Fu Lam area, with the waterfall itself encompassed by Wah Fu Estate and the residential complex of Bel-Air on the Peak in Cyberport. Geographically, the bay forms part of the East Lamma Channel. The park surrounding the bay can be accessed by a road by the same name (Waterfall Bay Road), which is connected to Wah Fu Road. A trail at Waterfall Bay Park leads from a series of stairs down to a rocky/sandy area where the falls can be viewed from below.

Pre-1841 British colonisation
It is not known when Waterfall Bay was first discovered. The first English-language mention of Hong Kong or the waterfall was in Dr. Clark Abel's "Narrative of a Journey to China," which recounted his 1816 travels with William Amherst on Amherst's failed mission to China. Lord Amherst used the bay as the rendezvous point for his ships before proceeding north. The visit produced the first engravings of the falls.

Fishermen working in the southern part of Hong Kong Island referred to Aberdeen Harbour as "Hong Kong", which translates to "fragrant harbour". This name is attributed to the fresh water that flowed into Waterfall Bay from its namesake natural feature. The waterfall became well known among British and European sailors, who would refill their fresh water supplies directly from the falls on their journey towards other ports in Asia, such as Galle, Ceylon, and Malacca, Malaya. This brought about the city's reputation for its abundant supply of drinking water, one of the few places on the coast of China to have such a resource. As a result, the name derived from the waterfall was later utilised to refer to the entire island and Victoria Harbour.

Post-1841
Construction of the nearby Pok Fu Lam Reservoir—the first key water storage facility in the colony—was finished in 1863. In order to accomplish this, the streams flowing from the mountains that are the source of the waterfall were dammed. This greatly reduced the flow intensity of the waterfall.

Second World War
Due to the bay's strategic location overlooking the Lamma Channel, it was utilised by the British during the Second World War to defend the colony from the Japanese. A pillbox and searchlight—known as a Lyon Light—was constructed; the former served as a bunker for Allied soldiers during the Battle of Hong Kong. Now in ruins, they can still be accessed at low tide.

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Fair use in Like Water for Chocolate (film)
Though this image is subject to copyright, its use is covered by the U.S. fair use laws because:
 * 1) It's a low resolution copy of a Film Poster / VHS or DVD Cover.
 * 2) It doesn't limit the copyright owner's rights to sell the film in any way, in fact, it may encourage sales.
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TrappHouse
Not notable, only gets 14 google hits. Graham 07:52, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete Vanity. Nonsense. And it seems as if they are trying to keep the "ghetto secrets" from the masses. Pure censorship. Hamster Sandwich 08:01, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * The new CSD specifically does not apply to bands. The topic of the article must be a real person. -Splash 23:00, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless proof of compliance to WP:MUSIC is presented.-Poli (talk • contribs) 16:53, 2005 July 23 (UTC)
 * Delete, in addition to only 14 Googles, there is no allmusic presence so, although two albums meets one of the WP:MUSIC criteria, they do not meet any other: there is no evidence that they are the main proponent of a particular type in their local area. They'd have more presence if they were. -Splash 23:00, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn rapper vanity. Fails WP:MUSIC guidelines. JamesBurns 03:14, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per google hits.--ThomasK 08:33, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Mars Attacks

Spelling of "Mars Attacks"
There is no exclamation point on the trading-card series Mars Attacks, as seen on the cover card on this page of Norm Saunders' site http://www.normansaunders.com/MrzAtx%2C01.html The exclam pt is only on the movie title. Subsequently, moving entry. — Tenebrae 03:46, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Redirect?
Shouldn't this page simply be a redirect to Mars Attacks! since the page coveres both (!) and without (!) ?Steve-O 01:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest keep Mars Attacks (sans "!") as the primary page since it, too, covers both, and since the source material, the original wellspring of all this, is the trading card series. If the header is Mars Attacks! that you're writing about the movie first, and backtracking to explain it came from the card set, and then you have to explain the card set. It just seems to make sense to start with the source material, and then go on to the spin-offs, IMHO. — Tenebrae 02:42, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Or maybe it'd be better to divide this entry into Mars Attacks (trading cards) and Mars Attacks! (film), a la The Godfather (novel) and The Godfather (film)? — Tenebrae 06:36, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Someone will have to put a looooooooooot of work into the articles to make this a viable option -- otherwise we'll just end up with two stubs. ~CS 01:28, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Seperated articles. --Switch 12:00, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Card No. 56
In the yearly Overstreet Comicbook Price Guide (in the 70's, I think), someone put an ad in the Guide with Mars Attacks card number 56, with picture of said card. There was an immediate panic from card collectors who thought they now had incomplete set. It turned out to be someone playing a joke on them.(178.236.117.122 (talk) 12:37, 12 October 2013 (UTC))

COI?
A mostly WP:SPA editor, which goes under various IP addresses including 2602:30A:C039:6C50:5D77:6E43:654B:EE38 today, has added promotional edits and may be a marketing / press person for Topps or a related company. If such apparent WP:COI editing persists, an admin will be asked to investigate the source of this and the similar IP addresses. --Tenebrae (talk) 19:10, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

 * That apparently promotional COI editor is now going under 2602:30A:C039:6C50:5C44:7EE8:5C1D:57AE. If they continue to make inappropriate, promotional edits, an admin will be asked to block this to anon IPs, in addition to a sock investigation. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:45, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

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Perverted-Justice.com
I've been tinkering with this article lately, and am interested in seeing how it could be improved further. A lot of people have very strong opinions about the organization in question, which has made keeping it NPOV difficult, but I think progress has been made. One area in particular I'm not sure how to deal with is that a lot of the critisism seems to be a little outdated, referring to previous issues that have been resolved (to whatever degree). Suggestions? Fieari 07:52, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Please employ the and  system. Content wise: it could be good to counter the criticism with a mention of high-profile figures who support the site. I believe Bill O'Reilly is all for this sort of stuff...
 * Also, try to find out whether other countries have or are debating in Parliaments the possibility of introducing such sites. There has been a minor public debate about online sex-offender registries in Australia recently. Hope that helps. Harro5 07:27, July 26, 2005 (UTC)


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Nicholas John Baker

Nicholas John 'Nick' Baker is a British citizen who was convicted of smuggling cocaine and ecstasy into Japan. He was arrested at Narita Airport on 13 April 2002 and found guilty by the Chiba Prefecture District Court in June 2003. He was sentenced to 14 years' jail with forced labour and fined ¥5,000,000. At his trial Baker claimed that he was tricked by his travelling companion, James Prunier, into carrying the drugs through customs in a false-bottomed suitcase. Baker also claimed that during his initial detention he was mistreated by Japanese authorities with sleep deprivation, no access to legal counsel, and that he was forced to sign a confession written in poor and inaccurate English. Baker's conviction was upheld on appeal but Baker's sentence was reduced to 11 years in prison and the fine to ¥3,000,000. Baker was transferred back to England in the Spring of 2008 to serve the remainder of his sentence. After spending six-months at London's Wandsworth prison, Baker was released on licence in October 2008.

Background and arrest
Baker, a trained chef and former sandwich-shop manager, ran a fencing business in his home town of Stroud, Gloucestershire, where he lived with his fiancée and their baby son. Baker had met Prunier 3 years before through a mutual interest in football. Prunier had problems with depression, drug and alcohol abuse, and later admitted that he had been involved in criminal activities at this time.

Baker said that Prunier and he, who had been travelling together in Europe, had decided to go to Japan before the 2002 FIFA World Cup to buy souvenirs and allow Prunier to rent a flat for the tournament. Baker and Prunier left Brussels National Airport in Belgium on 12 April, transited through London's Heathrow Airport and arrived at Tokyo's Narita airport at approximately 11:00 a.m. JST, on 13 April 2002.

Baker claimed in a later statement that he had been drinking and was tired from the long flight. He reported that after Prunier and he were split-up at airport immigration, they had met up again at the baggage carousel, and Prunier had told him "I haven't seen your bag yet, Nick. You grab this and get in a queue and I'll join you when yours comes out." When the bag Baker was carrying was searched in customs, 41,120 tablets of ecstasy and 992.5 grams of cocaine were found hidden in false compartments of the suitcase, the largest single illegal drugs haul at Narita airport at that time.

Baker, who has a heavy regional accent, reported that he had told the customs officials, who had limited English language skills, that the case was Prunier's.  According to the prosecution at his trial, Baker had the suitcase key in his possession, and threw it into the suitcase during the search. Prunier passed through customs, and although Japanese police monitored his mobile telephone conversations and his movements (including photographing his departure from Japan two days later), he was not detained or questioned.

Initial detention
As is customary in Japan, following his arrest Nick Baker was detained for 23 days and questioned without access to a lawyer. Baker reported that he was interrogated by as many as six police officers at any one time, shackled to a chair, with his hands tied behind his back. Baker claimed that throughout this period the lights were kept on so he could not sleep and that he did not eat for 20 days. Baker denied that the suitcase was his and claimed that Prunier had tricked him into carrying it through customs. However, at the end of the detention period, he signed a statement in Japanese that during the trial was seen as inconsistent and self-incriminating. Baroness Sarah Ludford, a member of the European Parliament and justice spokeswoman for the United Kingdom's Liberal Democratic Party, criticized the quality of the Japanese-English interpretation during the interrogation, and noted that Baker was required to sign a witness statement in Japanese, a language he did not understand. Baker later claimed that the police had told him that if he signed a statement he would be incriminating Prunier and that he would be allowed to return home. Baker was indicted on 1 May for violation of the Narcotic and Psychotropic Drug Control Law, and Customs Law.

Baker's mother reported that his health had deteriorated during his detention including bleeding gums, a broken finger, daily headaches, severe depression, and extreme back pain caused by sitting on the concrete floor. Until the start of his trial ten months later, Baker was kept in solitary confinement for refusing to admit his guilt,  and put on suicide watch because of depression.

Chiba District Court trial
The trial, which opened in February 2003, centred on whether Baker had been aware of the contents of the suitcase as well as an examination of the interrogation records and the confession he had signed. Baker claimed that the statement was mispresentation of his words and his lawyer, Shunji Miyake, argued that since there was no video or audio recording of the interrogations, and no defence lawyer was present, there was no way to check whether falsifications and mistranslations had taken place. Miyake also questioned what he claimed were the 'leading nature' of the questions asked by the interrogators. Baker maintained that the bag was Prunier's, that he had never had the key to the case, and that he had been tricked into carrying the bag by Prunier. Prunier had been arrested for drug smuggling in Belgium a month after Baker's arrest, and his co-accused in the Belgian case had also claimed that Prunier had duped them into carrying bags with drugs. The court ruled the evidence from the Belgian police was inadmissible, and it was not introduced during the trial.

In June 2003, the presiding judge, Kenji Kadoya, who had never found a defendant innocent in a career spanning more than a decade, found Baker guilty. He said Baker must have known the contents of the case because he had carried the key and had told customs officials and prosecutors that the case belonged to him. The judge also noted a signed confession, which implied Baker knew he was carrying drugs in the bag.

In the three-hour judgment, which was an almost word-for-word copy of the prosecution's argument, Kadoya said "This is a heinous crime. "This amount of drugs was a record. If they had entered our country, they would have harmed a large number of people." In June 2003, Baker was sentenced to 14 years in prison with forced labour and a ¥5,000,000 fine. Baker's lawyer said Baker had been punished more heavily because he had protested his innocence rather than confessing, which is the usual method by which prosecutors secure convictions.

In August 2003, James Prunier was interviewed on Central TV about the case. He admitted to being involved in drug smuggling, but denied that he had framed Baker, claiming that Baker was aware of the contents of the case. He subsequently committed suicide in August 2004, while on bail for the Belgian case.

Tokyo High Court appeal
The High Court appeal began March 2004. The defence argued that poor translation during police interrogations and during the district court trial had affected the outcome of the trial and submitted expert testimony about translation errors. They also suggested that the investigation was improperly conducted, that there were inconsistencies in official reports, and that important evidence, such as the Belgian information, had been ignored at the original trial.

On 27 October 2005 the presiding judge upheld the guilty verdict, rejecting defence suggestions. The judge questioned why Baker had travelled to Japan after Prunier had told him "If anything goes wrong on the way to Japan, your family will be killed." He also noted that the drugs were very skillfully hidden, and that more than half of the contents of the suitcase belonged to Baker, suggesting that it belonged to him. The judge also commented that "the defendant has not reflected sincerely on his acts." However, he reduced the sentence from 14 years to 11 years noting that Baker did not seem to be the mastermind, and his family had been worried about him. Baker's fine was also reduced from ¥5,000,000 (approximately £24,392) to ¥3,000,000 (approximately £14,635). This had to be paid within four weeks or he would have to serve an extra 150 days of hard labour.

In November 2005, Baker decided not to appeal to Japan's Supreme Court and was transferred to Fuchu Prison to begin serving his sentence. Having served one third of his sentence, Nick Baker was transferred back to England in the spring of 2008 to serve the remainder of his sentence. After six months at London's Wandsworth prison he was released on licence in October 2008.

Reactions
In April 2003, Baker's mother Iris publicly stated her belief that Nick Baker was innocent and had been framed. She subsequently led a campaign against her son's allegedly unfair trial, for better prison treatment and more recently for a transfer back to a UK prison. Campaign actions including presenting a petition signed by more than 1,000 people, including several Members of European Parliament, to Tony Blair at 10 Downing Street.

In July 2003, Lady Ludford called for Tony Blair to raise the issue during a summit with his Japanese counterpart Junichiro Koizumi though he did not do so. A question was raised in the British House of Commons in 2004 regarding progress of the case and Baker's health and confinement conditions. Mark Devlin, who at the time was the publisher of Metropolis, initially supported the Nick Baker campaign but withdrew his support in 2004 and publicly criticized the support group's campaign tactics.

The International Bar Association cited problems specific to the Baker case, particularly the lack of any recordings of interrogations in a 2006 report. Fair Trials Abroad, director Stephen Jakobi said Baker's case raised major concerns regarding the Japanese justice system and its compliance with the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, and pointed out Senrikinran University linguistics Professor Makiko Mizuno's criticism of the Japanese judiciary's understanding of what constitutes an able interpreter.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Meyers

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The result of the debate was delete. – ABCD✉ 01:36, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Andrew Meyers & Andrew and the Atlas Shruggeds & "Royale with Cheese" & Michael Werner & Kenny Fuentes
Not notable music group vanity + spam.Renata3 08:53, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete no compliance to WP:MUSIC is presented. Vistago (talk • contribs)--69.193.228.99 15:40, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Wikipedia, give us a chance. Just because we're not Coldplay doesn't mean you can delete us...This isn't spam either, if i wanted to sell records I'd post that we had extremely good reviews...We've got a website too http://www.geocities.com/scrimers99/AndrewandtheAtlasShr.html so I don't know why you wouldn't find anything.
 * ''Above vote by 69.76.0.27. --Blu Aardvark | (talk) 22:27, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep...Live...They aren't very good besides the one song about overdosing. If these pages go, then everything wikipedia stands for will be totally debased!
 * Above vote by 209.188.100.215

 * Keep They be so rockin'!
 * Above vote by 68.169.205.221

 * Keep Alright, I think this page should stay here on the matter of principle. Even if these guys hardcore suck ass, I think it's important to let smaller bands have some medium to share their music and allow people to learn about them. Just because their name isn't in allmusic.com doesn't mean that they aren't out there playing to 2-person crowds in the Twin Cities. These bands have to get a start somewhere, and just becuase they're not as famous doesn't make them any less legit than another band.
 * Above vote by 205.188.116.202
 * Wikipedia is not a place for a band to get their start; it's an encyclopedia. Which means that, yes, to be on here a band has to already be somewhat famous. Bearcat 17:51, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep Andy Meyers is an asshole; I hate that guy; nonetheless, I think the page is ligit.
 * Above vote by 216.164.30.179

 * Delete Non-notable. Absolutely no relevant google hits. Forbsey 08:38, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable. Thue | talk 08:44, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Kids! Stop It! Do I have to pull this car over??? Hamster Sandwich 08:58, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Bandity. Not notable. (Unsigned vote by UncleFloyd)
 * Delete; it seems like a vanity page, and does not follow the WP:MUSIC guidelines.. (Unsigned vote by It's-is-not-a-genitive)
 * Delete unless proof of compliance to WP:MUSIC is presented.-Poli (talk • contribs) 16:41, 2005 July 23 (UTC)
 * Delete. google search for the band results in no hits. --Blu Aardvark | (talk) 21:00, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Fight the power!!
 * ''Above vote by 65.96.234.37.

 * Delete Fight the power!! Feydey 22:19, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep I have their album. I haven't gone to their concerts, cause their kinda small yet, but give them a chance to pull in some crowds and they'll grow.
 * Above vote by 24.223.221.186

 * Keep They're a weird band, but a fun one. As stated in an above vote, it's the principle of it; being new and small doesn't make them any less legit than other groups.
 * ''Above vote by 208.38.95.61

keep. gret up and coming band.
 * Delete. This band does not meet Wikimusic project guidelines. Allmusic.com has not yet got an article on these guys and BluArdvark's Google search came up empty. Popular amongst sockpuppets though. Severe notability and verifiability problems with this article. Capitalistroadster 23:59, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * "Delete'. Nandesuka 02:31, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * "Delete'. Not notable Alight 03:25, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete! as they blatantly fail the WP:MUSIC guidelines. In addition, be sure to ignore the sock puppets!  (Every "keep" vote is from a non-user.) - Che Nuevara, the Democratic Revolutionary 03:57, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all of them. However, if yall want to, you could try to redirect Royale with Cheese to Pulp Fiction. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 04:29, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep I can't wait to see these guys play my school in the fall, i love their music.  So what if they're not radiohead or weezer, every artist deserves a chance to get their name out.  don't shut them down just because they've only begun to grow, i know in no time they'll be big enough to generate a few more "google hits," but in the meantime let them stay!
 * Above vote by 65.96.8.14.
 * Wikipedia is not a place for a band to "get their name out"; it's an encyclopedia. Which means that, yes, to be on here a band has to already be somewhat famous. Bearcat 17:51, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete all, nn band vanity. Fails WP:MUSIC guidelines. Sockpuppets rarely help causes. JamesBurns 03:36, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, looks legit to meTimmybiscool 22:26, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * User's first edit.

 * Delete band vanity Sean Black 21:09, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Every band is worth a mention in wikipedia whether they do or do not Cokehabit 21:40, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:MUSIC guidelines/vanity — Linnwood 22:25, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew and the Atlas Shruggeds

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The result of the debate was delete. – ABCD✉ 01:36, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Andrew and the Atlas Shruggeds
Not notable music group vanity. See also: Andrew Meyers & Michael Werner & "Royale with Cheese" & Mayank Puri (sorry for not putting everything nicely together) Renata3 09:00, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't forget Kenny Fuentes the drummer. --TheMidnighters 03:18, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete Fails to meet WP:MUSIC guidelines. Forbsey 08:33, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Only notable in the "Twin Cities". See also "Royale with Cheese" a record the author seems to be hawking. I vote Delete them both. Hamster Sandwich 08:38, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable. Thue | talk 08:45, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete; I agree that it fails to meet the WP:MUSIC guidelines; it seems like self-promotion to me.IINAG
 * Delete all related articles mentioned above. Harro5 23:20, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn band vanity. Fails WP:MUSIC guidelines. JamesBurns 03:33, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all nn band vanity.--TheMidnighters 03:18, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete band vanity, a geocities page does not notability make. Sean Black 19:55, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

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Icon
Yes, I know the icon is the arms of the City of London which is just the "square mile". But this icon is an actual photo of part of one of the two hundred Coal and Wine Tax Posts which surround London at a radius of about 15 miles. (See my website.) So these posts represent the boundary of the area this category covers. -- RHaworth 07:59, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Use of logo
Can we get an explanation as to why a copyright logo can be used in this way? If the GLC arms could not be used I fail to see how the GLA logo is ok. MRSC 08:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

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Light-dragging effects

In 19th century physics, there were several situations in which the motion of matter might be said to drag light. This aether drag hypothesis was an attempt by classical physics to explain stellar aberration and the Fizeau experiment, but was discarded when Albert Einstein introduced his theory of relativity. Despite this, the expression light-dragging has remained in use somewhat, as discussed on this page.

Under special relativity's simplified model Einstein assumes that light-dragging effects do not occur, and that the speed of light is independent of the speed of the emitting body's motion. However, the special theory of relativity does not deal with particulate matter effects or gravitational effects, nor does it provide a complete relativistic description of acceleration. When more realistic assumptions are made (that real objects are composed of particulate matter, and have gravitational properties), under general relativity's more sophisticated model the resulting descriptions include light-dragging effects.

Einstein's theory of special relativity provides the solution to the Fizeau Experiment, which demonstrates the effect termed Fresnel drag whereby the velocity of light is modified by travelling through a moving medium. Einstein showed how the velocity of light in a moving medium is calculated, in the velocity-addition formula of special relativity.

Einstein's theory of general relativity provides the solution to the other light-dragging effects, whereby the velocity of light is modified by the motion or the rotation of nearby masses. These effects all have one property in common: they are all velocity-dependent effects, whether that velocity be straight-line motion (causing frame-dragging) or rotational motion (causing rotation-dragging).

Velocity-dependent effects
Special relativity predicts that the velocity of light is modified by travelling through a moving medium.

 * For a moving particulate body, light moving through the body's structure is known to move faster in the direction of the body's motion than it does in the opposite direction (Fizeau experiment). This effect was originally predicted by dragged-aether theories (see: e.g. Fresnel). Light aimed transversely through a moving transparent body is also seen to be translated in the direction of the body's motion (R.V. Jones, J.Phys A 4 L1-L3 (1971) ).

General relativity predicts that the acceleration of a body in a straight line will cause light to drag, an effect known as Frame dragging (or gravitoelectromagnetism).

 * For a moving gravity-source the gravitational field can be considered as an extension of the object, and carries inertia and momentum - since a direct collision with the moving object can impart momentum to an external particle, interaction with the object's gravitational field should allow "momentum exchange" too. Consequently, a moving gravitational field drags light and matter. This general effect is used by NASA to accelerate space probes, using the gravitational slingshot effect.

Rotation-dragging effects
Under general relativity, the rotation of a body gives it an additional gravitational attraction due to its kinetic energy; and light is pulled around (to some degree) by the rotation (Lense–Thirring effect).

 * In the case of rotation, under general relativity we observe a velocity-dependent dragging effect, since, for a rotating body, the tendency of the object to pull things around with it can be accounted for by the fact that the receding part of the object is pulling more strongly than the approaching part.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marvel Versus Capcom: The Movie - Reloaded/Trinity

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The result of the debate was speedy deleted. – Alphax τεχ 02:32, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Marvel Versus Capcom: The Movie - Reloaded/Trinity
Nonsense article about a non-existent movie. Delete. Thatdog 08:01, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete Pure unadulterated BS. Hamster Sandwich 08:03, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete Ugh --malathion talk 23:31, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Space intelligences

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The result of the debate was delete. – ABCD✉ 01:36, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Space intelligences
I don't see much salvagable here. Looks like OR or conspiracy theory stuff. Delete Friday 08:01, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Save The Best Theories are often called the Craziest until the Critics get a chance to do some THINKING, a rare HU-man event. (left unsigned by User:203.26.206.129, author of the page --DNicholls 04:24, 24 July 2005 (UTC))
 * Delete --DNicholls 08:05, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete I fold the tin-foil hats, you pass them 'round. Hamster Sandwich 08:21, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: unverifiable to say the least.-Poli (talk • contribs) 16:50, 2005 July 23 (UTC)
 * Delete . Not only is it unverifiable, you guys really ought to check out the "Intelligences" section of Theory_of_multiple_intelligences. The section was produced entirely by the same guy, and uses... the exact same example, the example of this 'famous psychic' Ted Owens... And according to the information in the aforementioned article, forced the US to stop the Vietnam war with the help of his aliens. Does anyone else think Patent Nonsense applies? - Wakuseino 20:47, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * In retrospect, considering that it IS Patent Nonsense, I'm voting for Speedy Delete, if possible. - Wakuseino 21:03, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Google does turn up some stuff, but it doesn't look very legit.  This article doesn't check its fiction, and that might be because the Google hits also present something that's like a conspiracy theory as opposed to characters from a story.  Article doesn't explain it's a theory, either.  Hmmmm... nn theory.  CanadianCaesar 21:59, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Vague speculation. Not even well-known pseudoscience. ManoaChild 09:49, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ... Cyclone49 09:54, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete — almost certainly pure fantasy; needs substantial evidence to become encyclopedic. — RJH 17:00, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to SETI. JamesBurns 06:34, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. Patent nonsense. Do not redirect. Binadot 02:34, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

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John Cranko

John Cyril Cranko (15 August 1927 – 26 June 1973) was a South African ballet dancer and choreographer with the Royal Ballet and the Stuttgart Ballet.

Early life
Cranko was born to Herbert and Grace Cranko in Rustenburg in the former province of Transvaal, Union of South Africa. As a child, he would put on puppet shows as a creative outlet. Cranko received his early ballet training in Cape Town under the leading South African ballet teacher and director, Dulcie Howes, of the University of Cape Town Ballet School. In 1945 he choreographed his first work (using Stravinsky's Suite from L'Histoire du soldat) for the Cape Town Ballet Club.

He moved to London, studying with the Sadler's Wells Ballet School (later called the Royal Ballet) in 1946 and dancing his first role with the Sadler's Wells Ballet in November 1947.

London
Cranko collaborated with the designer John Piper on Sea Change, performed at the Gaiety Theatre, Dublin, in July 1949. They created a season of ballet at the Kenton Theatre, Henley, in 1952 and collaborated again for Sadler's Wells Ballet on The Shadow, which opened on 3 March 1953. This period marked a transition in Cranko's career from dancer to full-time choreographer, with his last performance for the Sadler's Wells Ballet taking place in April 1950. At 23 years of age, he was appointed as resident choreographer for Sadler's Wells Theatre Ballet's 1950–51 season.

For the company's Festival of Britain season in 1951 Cranko choreographed Harlequin in April, a "pantomine [sic] with divertissements" to music by Richard Arnell, as well as the comic ballet Pineapple Poll, to the music of Arthur Sullivan (newly out of copyright) arranged by the conductor Charles Mackerras. Another collaboration with Mackerras followed in 1954 with The Lady and the Fool, to music by Verdi.

In January 1954, Sadler's Wells Ballet announced that Cranko was collaborating with Benjamin Britten to create a ballet. Cranko devised a draft scenario for a work he originally called The Green Serpent, fusing elements drawn from King Lear, Beauty and the Beast (a story he had choreographed for Sadler's Wells in 1948) and the oriental tale published by Madame d'Aulnoy as Serpentin Vert. Creating a list of dances, simply describing the action and giving a total timing for each, he passed this to Britten and left him to compose what eventually became The Prince of the Pagodas.

Cranko wrote and developed a musical revue Cranks, which opened in London in December 1955, moved to St Martin's Theatre in the West End the following March, and ran for 223 performances. With music by John Addison, its cast of four featured the singers Anthony Newley, Annie Ross, Hugh Bryant and the dancer Gilbert Vernon; it transferred to Broadway at the Bijou Theatre. An original cast CD has been released. Cranko followed the format of Cranks with a new revue New Cranks opening at the Lyric Theatre Hammersmith on 26 April 1960 with music by David Lee and a cast including Gillian Lynne, Carole Shelley and Bernard Cribbins, but it failed to have the same impact.

In 1960, Cranko directed the first production of Benjamin Britten's opera A Midsummer Night's Dream, at the Aldeburgh Festival. When the work had its London premiere the following year at Covent Garden, Cranko was not invited to direct, and Sir John Gielgud was brought in.

Stuttgart
Prosecuted for homosexual activity, Cranko left the UK for Stuttgart, and in 1961 was appointed director of the Stuttgart Ballet, where he assembled a group of talented performers such as Marcia Haydée, Egon Madsen, Richard Cragun, Birgit Keil and Susanne Hanke. Among his following choreographies were Romeo and Juliet by William Shakespeare in 1962, set to music by Prokofiev, Onegin in 1965, an adaptation of the verse novel Eugene Onegin by Alexander Pushkin, set to music by Tchaikovsky (mainly piano music, including The Seasons and music from lesser-known operas), orchestrated by Kurt-Heinz Stolze, The Taming of the Shrew by Shakespeare in 1969 using keyboard music by Domenico Scarlatti, Brouillards in 1970, Carmen in 1971 (music by Wolfgang Fortner and Wilfried Steinbrenner)' Initials R.B.M.E. (music by Johannes Brahms) in 1972 and Spuren (Traces) (music by Gustav Mahler) in 1973.

Cranko's work was a major contribution to the international success of German ballet beginning with a guest performance at the New York Metropolitan Opera in 1969. At Stuttgart, Cranko invited Kenneth MacMillan to work with the company, for whom MacMillan created four ballets in Cranko's lifetime and a fifth, Requiem, as a tribute after Cranko's death. At Cranko's instigation the company established its own ballet school in 1971; it was renamed the John Cranko Schule in his honour in 1974. His assistant and choreologist Georgette Tsinguirides preserved his works in Benesh Movement Notation.

Death and legacy
In 1973, Cranko choked to death after suffering an allergic reaction to a sleeping pill he took during a transatlantic charter flight from Philadelphia to Stuttgart, two days after the company completed a successful tour of the United States at the Academy of Music in Philadelphia. The flight made an emergency landing in Dublin where Cranko was pronounced dead upon arrival at a hospital. His mother, Grace, who was divorced from Herbert and lived in what was then Rhodesia, learned of his death from a radio broadcast.

Cranko was buried at a small cemetery near Castle Solitude in Stuttgart.

In 2007, the Stuttgart Ballet celebrated what would have been Cranko's 80th birthday with the Cranko Festival. The ballet Voluntaries by Glen Tetley was created in his memory. The John Cranko Society in Stuttgart, founded in 1975, promotes knowledge of ballet and Cranko's work, supports performances and talented dancers, and every year presents the John Cranko Award.

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Sci Fiction

Sci Fiction was an online magazine which ran from 2000 to 2005. At one time, it was the leading online science fiction magazine. Published by Syfy and edited by Ellen Datlow, the work won multiple awards before it was discontinued.

History
The magazine was created by what was then the US Sci Fi Channel (now Syfy), and hosted at SCIFI.COM. The webzine starting publishing in May 2000. The principal editor was Ellen Datlow, who had previously edited two other online magazines: The online incarnation of OMNI, and Event Horizon.

The webzine first made a splash when Linda Nagata's "Goddesses" won the Nebula Award for Best Novella for 2000. It was the first time that a piece of fiction originally published on a website won a Nebula. In 2002 Ellen Datlow won her first Hugo Award for Best Editor. In 2003 stories from the webzine won three awards, the Nebula Awards for Best Short Story ("What I Didn't See" by Karen Joy Fowler) and Best Novelette ("The Empire of Ice Cream" by Jeffrey Ford), and the Theodore Sturgeon Award for Lucius Shepard's novella "Over Yonder". In 2005, Datlow won her second Hugo Award for Best Editor and the website itself won a Hugo for Best Website. She also won her first Locus Award for Best Editor in 2005.

In late 2005 the SciFi Channel announced that it would be shutting down the magazine. This decision was evidently made because the magazine was not a major revenue generator for the channel. SCIFI announced their intention to remove the Sci Fiction archived content as of June 2007, although some of it was still available over a year later. It has since been removed completely.

External resources

 * Sci Fiction archive
 * Sci Fiction's awards and nominations at The Locus Index to Science Fiction Awards
 * List of all stories published in Sci Fiction
 * List of all stories published in Sci Fiction

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Materialization (science fiction)

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The result of the debate was no consensus to delete -- Francs2000 | Talk 11:59, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Materialization (science fiction)
nothing useful here. borderline nonsense. Delete Friday 08:03, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete - nonsense. - ulayiti 15:00, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and disambiguate, as the article has been rewritten. - ulayiti (talk)  01:03, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete: Patent nonsense.-Poli (talk • contribs) 16:49, 2005 July 23 (UTC)
 * Speedy all the time when it materialises. Pavel Vozenilek 22:58, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy, under the second definition of Patent nonsense. -Splash 23:00, 23 July 2005 (UTC) Keep the dab page. -Splash 14:05, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy How can something be a neologism and patent nonsense at the same time? --malathion talk 23:32, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Hark! There's that distinctive noise of a rewritten article materializing, again.  Weak keep and disambiguate with materialization (parapsychology) .  Uncle G 00:54, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * The disambiguation has been done. Uncle G 12:00, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Big time keep! Good save, folks.  humblefool® 03:20, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep with rewrite. Notable SciFi concept. JamesBurns 03:15, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of EU safety codes

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The result of the debate was no consensus to delete -- Francs2000 | Talk 12:04, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

List of EU safety codes
Delete. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. A list of safety codes strikes me as hardly encyclopedic. It also has no context. Perhaps Wikisource will take it (though I'm not sure). Also, I wonder what the copyright status of this is; it must have come from somewhere. --Dmcdevit·t 08:04, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment With all due respect to the rules of Wikipedia, this may be one of the most imporatnt topics that can be covered here. Maybe not as it is written, but, imagine some worker some where (probably Europe) and they need to know if some work related thing is covered by safety regulations. If they're lucky they get to fire up the computer, and there it is! In bold electrons the answer they need! And Wikipedia helps someone in a very real and tangible way. Maybe even saves someones life...woah, heavy, eh? I dunno, I vote Keep with some massive editting this article could be THAT useful. Or maybe my tin-foil hat has been letting in the "space-rays" again. Hamster Sandwich 08:30, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, maybe make the introduction slightly longer. Many articles contains lists of information, and are still ok for wikipedia; see fx list of Presidents of the United States. Thue | talk 08:58, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Duplicate article with inaccurate title. This is covered in List of S-phrases.  "EU safety codes" turns up no google hits other than this page so I don't think this even deserves a redirect. -Buuneko 09:37, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of S-phrases.-Poli (talk • contribs) 16:47, 2005 July 23 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of S-phrases. Wikipedia's coverage of this area is a bit chaotic at the moment (see also Risk and Safety Statements, Directive 67/548/EEC), but keeping this article won't help in the slightest. Physchim62 16:50, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or Redirect to List of S-phrases Richard Taylor 00:21, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unless the EU has no other safety codes (building codes, fire codes, etc.), then I see no reason why "safety codes" should be automatically assumed to mean chemical lab codes, which means no redirect.  The Literate Engineer 05:41, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of S-phrases MH 17:11, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of S-phrases. JamesBurns 03:16, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

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Gridlinked is a bad book.

 * That's one opinion, definitely! However, I removed the opinion from the main article.
 * Gridlinked is fair, but the novels that decent from it are a vast improvement —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.6.98.160 (talk) 00:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

 * The ending is confusing, certainly. I found this article useful, because it shows I'm not alone in finding this.

 * However, the article does contain spoilers, and it should be flagged to say so. Paul Magnussen (talk) 17:47, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Gridlinked.jpg
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/"The Sand Wraith"

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The result of the debate was delete. – ABCD✉ 01:42, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

"The Sand Wraith"
Not notable. Maybe could be merged somewhere with the game's article. Renata3 08:07, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I concur. IINAG
 * Merge to Prince of Persia: Warrior Within, as there is already a "Characters" section in that article.-Poli (talk • contribs) 16:26, 2005 July 23 (UTC)
 * Delete, no merge: subtrivial fancruft. Wile E. Heresiarch 19:26, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn trivial fancruft. JamesBurns 03:52, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

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To Andy cox
I andy I would like to know if u would be able to write me the lyrics of a song that I have recorded if u could that would be helpful 2A00:23C8:102:2B01:C120:626B:2779:F9D3 (talk) 14:34, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

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User:Clemmarshall

Hi. Right now I'm a sophmore at Brown University in Providence, RI. I'm studying biochemistry. Some of my favorite things include Pink Floyd, Leo Tolstoy, Jack Kerouac, Mark Rothko, frisbee, and stir fry.

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Al Meethaq

Al-Meethaq (جمعية ميثاق العمل الوطني; lit. 'National Action Charter Society') is a liberal political party in Bahrain. It was founded by Sunni and Shi'a businessmen from well-known families in 2002.

It won no seats in the 2002 or 2006 general elections. Sixteen of its members were appointed by the King of Bahrain in 2002 to the wholly appointed Consultative Council of Bahrain which co-legislates with the elected Council of Representatives of Bahrain.

With other liberal groups, al-Meethaq has established the Al-Muntada activist group which campaigns for personal freedoms.

The party's leader is Ahmad Juma, who is culture editor of the newspaper Al Ayam.

Bahraini uprising
On 16 February 2011, the third day of the Bahraini uprising, al-Meethaq said that it was unconstitutional to ask for devolution of power and establishment of an elected government. "The repeated statements by Ali Salman, head of Al Wefaq about devolution of power and an elected government are completely flawed", the statement said.

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Henry Somerset, 10th Duke of Beaufort

Henry Hugh Arthur FitzRoy Somerset, 10th Duke of Beaufort (4 April 1900 – 5 February 1984), styled Marquess of Worcester until 1924, was a peer, landowner, society figure and a great authority in the fields of horse racing and fox-hunting. He held the office of Master of the Horse for over forty years (1936–1978), the longest to hold the position. He founded the Badminton Horse Trials and was deemed "the greatest fox-hunter of the twentieth century"; his long tenure as Master of the Beaufort Hunt led to his being universally nicknamed Master and his car bore the private numberplate MFH1. In 1980 he published the authoritative book Fox-Hunting.

Origins
He was the youngest child and only son and heir of Henry Somerset, 9th Duke of Beaufort (1847–1924) by his wife Louise Emily Harford (1864–1945), a daughter of William Henry Harford, JP, DL, of Oldtown, Tockington, Gloucestershire, and widow of Charles Frederic van Tuyll van Serooskerken (1859–1893), a Dutch baron, by whom she had two sons.

Early origins
He was descended in the male line from Charles Somerset, 1st Earl of Worcester, 1st Baron Herbert (c.1460–1526), KG, an illegitimate son of Henry Beaufort, 3rd Duke of Somerset (1436–1464), 3rd in descent from John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster (3rd surviving son of King Edward III) by his mistress (and later wife) Katherine Swynford. Charles was given the surname "Somerset" and was created Baron Herbert in 1506 and Earl of Worcester in 1513. The present Dukes of Beaufort are thus the last-known surviving male-line descendants of King Henry II (1154–1189) of England, Count of Anjou, founder of the Plantagenet dynasty, of which King Richard III (1483–1485) was the last ruling member in the male line. The present king is descended from Henry II only through various female lines, all of them, however, legitimate. The surname Beaufort (properly de Beaufort, "from Beaufort") reflects the fact that Katherine Swynford gave birth to her illegitimate children by John of Gaunt at his French castle and manor of Beaufort ("beautiful stronghold") (from 1688 Montmorency-Beaufort) in Champagne, situated 100 miles east of Paris.

Education
He was educated at Eton College and the Royal Military College, Sandhurst, from which he was commissioned into the Royal Horse Guards.

Military service
Beaufort left the Army after a few years with the rank of lieutenant. He was Honorary Colonel of the 21st (Royal Gloucestershire Hussars) Armoured Car Company, Territorial Army between 1969 and 1971 and Honorary Colonel of the Royal Wessex Yeomanry between 1971 and 1984, and the Warwickshire Yeomanry between 1971 and 1972.

Public appointments
After the International Horse Show of 1933 was abandoned, a new committee headed by the young Beaufort succeeded in re-establishing the event at Olympia in 1934.

Beaufort was Master of the Horse (1936–1978) to three British sovereigns, Edward VIII, George VI and Elizabeth II. As such, he took part in royal functions, such as the 1947 wedding of Princess Elizabeth and Philip, Duke of Edinburgh.

He was appointed a Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order (GCVO) in 1930, a Privy Counsellor in 1936, a Knight Companion of the Order of the Garter in 1937 and was awarded the decoration of the Royal Victorian Chain in 1953. In 1955, Francisco Craveiro Lopes, President of the Portuguese Republic, awarded him the Grand Cross of the Order of Christ.

He was Steward of Tewkesbury between 1948 and 1984, Hereditary Keeper of Raglan Castle (an office created by his ancestor William ap Thomas, the Blue Knight of Gwent), Lord Lieutenant of Bristol from 1931 to 1974 and High Steward of Bristol, Tewkesbury and Gloucestershire. He also held the office of Lord Lieutenant of Gloucestershire between 1931 and 1984 and was Chancellor of the University of Bristol from 1965 to 1970.

Other offices held included President of the MCC, Bristol Rovers F.C., the British Olympic Association, the Battersea Dogs Home, and the Anchor Society in Bristol in 1969.

Published works
He authored the following works:
 * Fox-Hunting, published in 1980, an authoritative and comprehensive work on that subject with chapters titled: How my fox-hunting life began; The fox; The foxhound; Kennels; Hound management; Hound shows; The running of a pack of hounds; The general organisation of the hunt; The huntsman; The whipper-in; In the field; Riding to hounds; Fox coverts and their care (with thoughts on wire); Earth stopping; Terriers; Digging; Horses and stables in general; A defence of fox-hunting; First-aid for horse and rider; Etiquette and clothes.
 * Memoirs, which he wrote in 1981, discussing his family history, the story of Badminton House, his royal duties, and the development of fox-hunting. At one point he bluntly declares that "obviously, the hunting of the fox has been my chief concern".

Marriage
On 14 June 1923, Somerset, then styled Marquess of Worcester, married Lady Victoria Constance Mary Cambridge (1897–1987), a daughter of Adolphus Cambridge, 1st Marquess of Cambridge, a German prince whose mother was a granddaughter of King George III of the United Kingdom. The marriage was childless. Victoria had been born with the title Princess Mary of Teck; however, on 17 July 1917, following World War I, King George V decided to outwardly renounce his German heritage and issued a royal proclamation that changed the name of the British royal house from the German-sounding House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to the House of Windsor. All the king's British-domiciled German relatives likewise relinquished their German titles and styles, and were granted new British titles. Mary's father was created Marquess of Cambridge, and she became known as Lady Mary Cambridge until her marriage.

Mary's paternal aunt was Queen Mary, wife of George V, so that among her first cousins were King Edward VIII and King George VI. The Dukes of Beaufort were among the closest friends of the royal family. Queen Mary lived at Badminton during World War II and the royals stayed there several times a year, particularly for the Badminton Horse Trials, which usually took place at the time of Queen Mary's birthday.

Character
A biographer described the Duke as:
 * "Tough as nails. His routine involved getting up at seven o'clock and riding round the estate before breakfast to see what was going on. He knew the 120 men who worked on his estate far better than any factory boss knows his staff. No decision concerning the estate was taken without the Duke's active authority. He answered all his own letters...until he retired to the rear of the pack in 1966, the sight of the Duke of Beaufort at the head of the hunt was one of the greatest spectacles to be seen in England".

Among the Duke's myriad personal friends was David Niven; during World War II he hosted Eleanor Roosevelt and Haile Selassie at Badminton. James Lees-Milne, the conservationist, rented a house next door and records their poor relationship in his celebrated diaries—he thought the Duke was "feudal". He was "a legendary womaniser" who conducted affairs with, among others, Lavinia, Duchess of Norfolk and Sally, Duchess of Westminster, a cousin of his wife.

Death and burial
Beaufort died in 1984, aged 83, at his seat of Badminton House, and was buried in the churchyard of his parish Church of St Michael and All Angels, Badminton. Unusually, the Queen, who usually attends funerals of close family only, went to his, as did most other members of the royal family. On Boxing Day 1984 animal-rights activists vandalised his grave but stopped short of their plan to disinter his remains and send his head to Princess Anne.

Dukedom of Beaufort
The Dukedom of Beaufort, created in 1682 by letters patent not by writ, cannot pass via a female line. As he died childless, the dukedom, the titles Earl of Worcester (cr. 1513), Marquess of Worcester (cr. 1642) and his estates passed to his first cousin twice removed, David Somerset, 11th Duke of Beaufort (1928–2017) (the grandson of his first cousin Henry Charles Somers Augustus Somerset, son of Lord Henry Somerset, second son of the 8th Duke), to whom he was close and who had lived for many years on the Badminton estate which he had helped to manage.

Baronies
The ancient titles of Baron de Botetourt (cr. 1305) and Baron Herbert (cr. 1461), created by writ, are able to pass via a female line and thus on the Duke's death they fell into abeyance between various descendants of his elder sister Lady Blanche Somerset (1897–1968), the wife, firstly, of John Eliot, 6th Earl of St Germans. Lady Blanche's two daughters were:
 * Lady Rosemary Eliot (1919–1963), who married, firstly, Capt. Edward Nutting, Royal Horseguards, 2nd son of Sir Harold Stansmore Nutting, 2nd Baronet, by whom she had a daughter. She married, thirdly, Col. Ralph Rubens (d.1995), Sherwood Foresters, by whom she had a further daughter.
 * Davina Nutting (1940–1976), who married John Martin Brentnall Cope and had issue:
 * Jonathan Edric Cope (1961–1976)
 * Frederica Samantha Mary Cope (born 1963), 1/4 share of Barony of Bottetourt (in 2015), wife of David Thomas
 * Davinia Mary Mauritius Thomas (born 1999)
 * Alexandra Rubens (born 1951) 1/4 share of Barony of Bottetourt (in 2015), wife of Danny Peyronel.
 * Jesse Alexander Peyronel (born 1977)
 * Lady Cathleen Eliot (1921–1994) (2nd daughter of Lady Blanche Somerset), who married, firstly, Capt. John Seyfried, Royal Horseguards, by whom she had a son:
 * David Seyfried-Herbert, 19th Baron Herbert (born 1952), 1/2 share of Barony of Bottetourt (in 2015), who in 2002 succeeded as 19th Baron Herbert on the termination of the abeyance.

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François Ngeze

François Ngeze (born 1953) is a Burundian retired politician. He served as the acting head of state of Burundi from 21 October 1993 to 27 October 1993. He was chosen by the military Committee of Public Salvation, a group of army officers that staged the 1993 Burundian coup d'état attempt overthrew the democratically elected government of president Melchior Ndadaye (who was killed during the coup attempt).

Ngeze, one of the few prominent Hutu members of UPRONA (Union for National Progress) at the time, was interior minister in the government of Pierre Buyoya, who was defeated by Ndadaye in elections held on 1 June 1993.

Following widespread condemnation of the coup, the Committee of Public Salvation was dissolved on 27 October. Sylvie Kinigi, prime minister in the Ndadaye government, took over as acting president.

Early life
François Ngeze was born in 1953 in Isare commune, Rutegama colline, Ruanda-Urundi. Ethnically, he is Hutu. In May 1972 the Burundian regime engaged in anti-Hutu repression, including massive violence. Ngeze was student at the time in Burengo and was arrested by the authorities and imprisoned at Kayanza. By his own account government administrator Basile Gateretse—a friend of his father—released him from prison and hid him in his home for two weeks with his cousin, Cyprien Ntaryamira. Once the authorities became suspicious, Gateretse arranged for the two of them to flee across the Ruzizi River into Zaire. Ngeze then went to Rwanda. He earned a university degree in pedagogy and became a teacher at Saint Léon Minor Seminary of Kabgayi. He married and fathered six children.

Political career
Ngeze returned to Burundi in 1982. He joined the Union for National Progress (Union pour le Progrès national, UPRONA) and became permanent secretary of the party chapter in Bujumbura. He rose to become Governor of Cankuzo Province in 1989 and later Governor of Bujumbura Rural Province. On 4 April 1992 he was sworn-in with a new national cabinet as Minister of Interior, becoming the first Hutu to hold the post since two decades prior.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Czech language verbs

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List of Czech language verbs
Hey look, a list of verbs. Now all we need is a list of adjectives, and conjunctions, and nouns, and adverbs, and interjections, etc., and then we have... a dictionary. Which Wikipedia is not. Not to mention a list of all the verbs in a language is a very ambitious (i.e. impossible) undertaking. Delete. --Dmcdevit·t 08:13, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Dmcdevit. Hamster Sandwich 09:23, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Move to Wiktionary if only possible Renata3 09:26, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Czech must be a strang language to have only 23 verbs--Porturology 13:07, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Only the few most common verbs are listed. Czech vocabulary is huge and its words can have even dozens of slightly different forms. Pavel Vozenilek 23:12, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Transwiki to Wiktionary. They already have some similar articles like List of Spanish verbs.-Poli (talk • contribs) 16:29, 2005 July 23 (UTC)
 * You're right, I should have transwikied it first. Now transwikied to list_of_Czech_verbs. --Dmcdevit·t 21:50, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete (with possible wiktionary), unencyclopedic. The informatin in article is correct, btw. Pavel Vozenilek 22:51, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not a dictionary. JamesBurns 03:49, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NetSite

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NetSite
Appears to be company-generated advertising Dave.Dunford 08:15, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Ad-based Vanity."We have experience in most computer technologies" pretty much sums it up. Hamster Sandwich 08:33, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
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Frodus

Frodus (a.k.a. Frodus Conglomerate International, Frodus Sound Laboratories, FCI, Frodus Escape Plan, Frodus Deposit Insurance Corporation) was an American post-hardcore band formed in 1993 in Washington, D.C. by vocalist/guitarist Shelby Cinca and drummer Jason Hamacher. The band went through numerous bassists over the course of their career. Their mixture of math rock and hardcore punk plus their lyrical themes, frequently dark and dissonant and seen as esoteric for the time, led them to be described by critics as one of the most influential post-hardcore bands of the 1990s.

Existence (1993–1999)
Frodus' first releases were self-distributed cassettes and 7 inches, such as Babe, Tzo-Boy, and Molotov Cocktail Party. Two other releases (Fireflies and F-Letter), on now-defunct indie labels, followed. Frodus later signed with Tooth & Nail Records, an independent label out of Seattle, with whom they released Conglomerate International in 1998. Most of Frodus' recognition was due to their final release, And We Washed Our Weapons in the Sea, recorded in 1999 and released in 2001 on Fueled by Ramen, considered by band members to be their best recorded work.

The name "Frodus" came from the last episode of TV series The Monkees called "Mijacogeo" (a.k.a. "The Frodis Caper").

Post-breakup (2000–2008)
After Frodus broke up in 1999, it took two years to find a label to release their final album. The first label, MIA Records, shut down due to the owner (also a Texas oil-tycoon) having to settle a long-standing lawsuit. Afterwards, long-time Frodus friend Tony Weinbender (then of Fueled by Ramen Records) offered to release Frodus' final album.

Shelby Cinca briefly joined the band Bluebird as a second guitarist following the breakup of Frodus, but left before recording any material with them. In 2000, Nathan went on to form The Out Circuit and Night Is Invisible (both of which released records on Lujo Records), and Hamacher went on to drum for Combatwoundedveteran. In 2003, the founding members Shelby Cinca and Jason Hamacher along with bassist Joe Lally of Fugazi joined to form The Black Sea. They later changed their name to Decahedron. Lally left shortly after the completion of their debut album and was replaced by Jonathan Ford (Unwed Sailor, Roadside Monument). Continually plagued by bassist fluctuation anomalies, Ford quit in 2004 and was later replaced by Jake Brown (formerly of Moments in Grace and Twothirtyeight). In 2005, they suspended operations after the release of their EP entitled 2005. Shelby Cinca then focused on his Swedish project Frantic Mantis with Håkan Johansson and Per Stålberg of Division of Laura Lee, and completed the third album by The Cassettes (Buddyhead Records, 2006). In 2006, Jason Hamacher started a project with Mike Schliebaum of Darkest Hour called Zealot. Cinca began releasing IDM, made on a Game Boy (Game Boy music) with the Nanoloop software, under his own name.

2006 also saw the relaunch of the Frodus web-presence and consolidation of its MySpace entities. The site was an attempt to archive all known interviews, previous website designs, press clippings, and digital transfers for media content. Shelby Cinca also began remastering out-of-print releases and adding them to the iTunes library and other digital music services through his partnership with Carcrash Records.

Reunion (2009–2010)
2009 saw Frodus reunite as the Frodus Escape Plan/Frodus Conglomerate International/FDIC (Frodus Despotic (or Deposit) Insurance Corporation) with Liam Wilson from The Dillinger Escape Plan on bass, and Jake Brown also on bass for select appearances. The reunion was organized in commemoration of the re-release of the Conglomerate International double-vinyl LP on Gilead Media, and as a statement in response to the bank-bailouts and the uncovering of corporate corruption in the financial sector.

In 2010, Frodus released a new 7″ of material, Soundlab 1, recorded in 2009 with Liam Wilson on bass, as a limited edition 7″ vinyl on Lovitt Records.

A reissue of the band's final album, And We Washed Our Weapons In the Sea, was released on Lovitt Records in 2015.

Members

 * Last lineup
 * Shelby Cinca – guitar, vocals, electronics, percussion (1993–1998, 2008–2010)
 * Jason Hamacher – drums, percussion, backing vocals (1993–1998, 2008–2010)
 * Liam Wilson – bass (2008–2010)
 * Jake Brown – bass, vocals (2008–2010)

 * Former members
 * Jim Cooper – bass, vocals (1993–1995)
 * Kyle Bacon – bass (1993–1994)
 * Ted Magsig – bass (1994; four shows)
 * Dana Wachs – bass, vocals (1994; four shows)
 * Andy Duncan – bass, vocals (1995)
 * Howard Pyle – bass, vocals (1995–1997)
 * Mason – bass, vocals (1997)
 * Nathan Burke – bass, keyboards, vocals (1997–1999)
 * Saadat Awan – bass (2008; one show)

 * Timeline

Discography

 * Studio Albums
 * Molotov Cocktail Party (1994, Gnome / 2006, Carcrash Records iTunes)
 * Fireflies (1995, Level / 2006 Carcrash Records iTunes)
 * F-Letter (1996, Double Deuce / 2003, Magic Bullet Records)
 * Conglomerate International (1998, Tooth and Nail / 2009 Lovitt Records)
 * And We Washed Our Weapons in the Sea (2001, Fueled by Ramen)

 * Live Albums
 * 22-D10 (live at WMUC Radio + Formula 7″ Sessions) (1997, No Looking Back)
 * Radio-Activity (live radio recordings at WMUC, WHFS, KXLU) (2002, Magic Bullet Records)
 * Live at Black Cat 1999 iTunes-only (2005, Lovitt Records)
 * Left for Dead in Halmstad! (live in Sweden, April 14, 1998) iTunes-only (2006, Carcrash Records)

 * Singles and EPs
 * Babe (1993, Gnome)
 * Tzo Boy (1993, Gnome)
 * Treasure Chest (1994, Gnome / Level)
 * Formula (1996, Lovitt / Shute)
 * Split with Trans-Megetti (1996, Art Monk Construction)
 * Explosions (1997, Day After Records)
 * Split with Roadside Monument (1997, Tooth and Nail)
 * Muddle Magazine Promo Flexi (1997, Tooth and Nail / Muddle)
 * Split with Atomic Fireball (1999, Lovitt / Japan: Flatree Records)
 * "Suspicion Breeds Confidence (Jason Vocals)" b/w "G. Gordon Liddy Show Call" (2006, Carcrash Records iTunes Only)
 * Soundlab 1 (2010, Lovitt Records)

 * Compilation Appearances
 * Squirrel (1995, Level) – "22-d10"
 * The Art of Rocketry (1995, Supernova) – "Malcontent" (alt. mix)
 * It Goes Without Saying (1999, Sign Language) – "Dec. 21, 2012"
 * Give Me the Cure (1995, Radiopaque) – "Killing an Arab"
 * The Lovitt Empire (1996, Lovitt) – "Cha-Chi" (English version)
 * The Tie That Binds (1996, Nevermore) – "Factory 6" (Formula 7″ Sessions Take)
 * Tooth and Nail 4th Anniversary Box Set (1997, Tooth and Nail) – "Lights On for Safety"
 * Songs from the Penalty Box 2 (1998, Tooth and Nail) – "Conditioned"
 * Songs from the Penalty Box 3 (1999, Tooth and Nail) – "There Will Be No More Scum" (demo)
 * Can't Stop This Train (1999, Team Player) – "Extinguished"
 * Absolut... (1999, B-Core) – "There Will Be No More Scum" (demo)
 * Torch Benefit (2001, Under Radar) – "Suspicion Breeds Confidence (Jason Vocal Take)"

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Category:Singapore government policies

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