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User talk:Epa101

Welcome!
Hi Epa101, and a warm welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you have enjoyed editing as much as I did so far and decide to stay. Unfamiliar with the features and workings of Wikipedia? Don't fret! Be Bold! Here's some good links for your reference and that'll get you started in no time!

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- Mailer Diablo 16:27, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Miners
Thanks for your help with the miners article, you too obviously have some very good source knowledge, maybe, like me,lived there at the time etc. Your information about the police asking about political affinity is spot on!

Ukbn2 10:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Immanuel Kant and great philosophers
Hi Epa101. Thank you for your recent contribution regarding Immanuel Kant and the great philosophers in the Obsessive-compulsive disorder article. It would be great if you could provide a source/reference for this information in the article; there have been some problems in the past in the famous/celebrity section regarding verifiability (See for example Talk:Obsessive-compulsive disorder). I do not doubt the validity of your edit, but it would set good precedent for other editors of this section if you could include a reference for the information. If you need help, see Citing sources or you can reply below with the information and I can put it in for you. Thanks again!--GregRM 21:17, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
 * While searching for a source to support your addition, I came across this reference which seems to suggest that Kant did not have OCD. In light of this information, I removed your addition to Talk:Obsessive-compulsive disorder. You are welcome to discuss the issue and contribute your knowledge regarding this matter in this section if you desire; if you have a suitably strong reference/source we may be able to return this information to the main article.--GregRM 23:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Utilitarianism
Hi - I notice you added 'This argument has been revived by Richard Rorty's work' to the section in Utilitarianism on Marx's argument about human nature. It wasn't clear what argument you meant or how Rorty is relevant, to be honest, so I've cut your addition for the moment. I'm happy to be shown how I'm wrong, though, so feel free to reply at my talk page. Cheers, Sam Clark 10:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Hello again. Thanks for your response. I now see what you were getting at, and you're right that it'd be worth mentioning, but perhaps in the body of the section (and, as you say, with a reference). Cheers, Sam Clark 13:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Articles on accents
When you add material to articles on accents, could you add references to the article at the same time? Most of your additions seem plausible (though I'm sceptical that RP is based on Northamptonshire accents, given what the people I've met from Kettering sound like) but it would be nice to have sources.--JHJ 17:25, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

 * I've heard the thing about the South-East Midlands many times.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/northyorkshire/voices2005/glossary/barrie_rhodes.shtml "Standard English is nothing more or less than a particular dialect from the South East Midlands". The three counties that I specifically identified were based on B.B.C. Voices: the book "Talking for Britain", Simon Elmes, p.114 I can't say that I've ever met anyone from Kettering. As it is in north Northamptonshire, it seems peripheral to the Standard English area that was described in the book, and probably not too big a problem. Epa101 17:51, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the sources.--JHJ 18:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Mill Town
Hi, many thanks for the contact.

I do agree with your view - and I believe (though am unsure exactly) that Sky and the BBC (and I suspect some of the middle-class national papers) have used the expression Mill town in this way.

However, I know for certain that someone will come along in the near future and challenge it on the grounds that they may never heard of this; a reference (or ideally two/three), would simply prove this statement and back up this view.

I'm uncertain of your level of experience on Wikipedia, but I would say that there are a few policies which dictate why this should be. WP:V is one, another is Citing sources. As I say, you may however be familiar with these.

I'd take a look at Oldham Riots (which is very much linked to this article and one which I've contributed significantly to) which indicates roughly the amount of sourcing which would be expected for a B-class standard article, and how to present such a topic.

A source wouldn't necessarily need to be found imminently - but it is best to keep the tag in place whilst one is found, as this would help say a serious researcher who is unfamiliar with the topic to know that it has not been checked.

I'll try to take a look for a source, though if you could aid in this I'd be very grateful.

Thanks for contributions, keep up the good work! Jhamez84 00:27, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Accents
Excellent work on the Mill town article. I knew sources would exist for this as I remember vaugley the term being used in such a way! Great stuff - thanks for that contribution!

With regards to accents - my immediate concern is that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia based upon verfiability and other such ideals. However, accents are not an exact science.

There are also issues of say, what constitutes an Oldham accent, is it based upon the exact town proper, or the wider Metropolitan Borough of Oldham (which includes other towns and even parts annexed from Yorkshire itself!). Also, as you no doubt are aware, Oldham and other such towns have high ethnic minority populations - do their accents legitimately form part of or influence what is an Oldham accent?

I'm not challenging such articles, but I am thinking outside of the box, so to speak/type (!), and these could be pitfalls which one may face.

I guess that I could confirm to an extent that (broadly) Oldham does have a Rhotic accent. Though I would add that it's unusual proximity to Yorkshire, Cheshire, Manchester and Derbyshire means that the accent for the area is not strictly a Lancastrian one. Indeed, I'm lucky/unlucky enough when travelling to be assumed to be Mancunian because of my accent - which happens rather consistently!

I'm certainly interested in your projects and ideas for this, and would like to work closely on it if you feel I could help? Hope I have done so, so far. Thanks for the contact and support. Do please get back in touch! Jhamez84 23:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair use image in user namespace
Hello!

You have used a fair use image in your user namespace (Image:Augusto Pinochet official portrait.jpg in User talk:Epa101). Criterion 9 of the Fair use criteria states that "Fair use images may be used only in the article namespace. Used outside article space, they are not covered under the fair use doctrine." I have replaced it with a free image (Image:Augusto Pinochet.jpg).

Sincerely, --Oden 20:48, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Trap-bath split in the South-East
I removed your bit about Sussex and the trap-bath split from English English because the links you used do in fact show it: they show a long (like a lengthened form of the Yorkshire short vowel) in the BATH words, whereas TRAP words have a short  or. This isn't quite like RP and similar accents, which have a long back in the BATH words, but it still shows the split. I noticed you added something similar to Estuary English; was there another source?--JHJ 17:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

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Survey of English Dialects
Thanks very much for creating the entry in the first place. Last autumn, I wrote my master's thesis on paradigms of to be in the SED and I would have loved to find a kickstart on the topic at wikipedia. I decided to create the article as soon as I would have finished my exams, but they are still going on. Now I won't have to do that, will I? Symkyn 07:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

secular islam
Epa101, the "secular islam" video is available on youtube and warraq is featured in the video as well. I am 100% it is him. Do a youtube search for secular islam and you'll see him and all the other infamous islam bashers.

xad —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xad (talk • contribs) 10:38, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

About the ISIS website
Thanks to you. Interestingly enough is the second link, where Ibn Warraq graciously quotes Michael Leeden, a peaceful hardworker in the innocent cause of "war on terror", and who is very likely particularily well documented on that subject. Wikipedia has quite interesting articles on these matters. TwoHorned (talk) 12:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Dialect Test
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Elsecar
Hi Epa101. Thanks for raising the issue with the pronunciation of Elsecar. I'm not familiar with that part of the country, but Rhotic and non-rhotic accents would support some Yorkshire accents being rhotic. Just thought I'd mention it. --Northernhenge (talk) 19:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

List of names in English with counterintuitive pronunciations is being considered for deletion
Since you've contributed quite a bit to the list, you may be interested in joining the discussion. Thanks. Afasmit (talk) 03:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Apparently, I was a bit late with my notification to other contributors, but it didn't hurt: the article has survived based on "no consensus". The proponents for deletion were not too sure about it anyway. I'll make some improvements in the near future (hide mere non-obvious pronunciations and add non-IPA pronunciation guides as I'd done for the personal names). Cheers, Afasmit (talk) 17:15, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Largest village article - similar claims
Hi, please can you reference your source for list of largest towns without railway stations. This article is generally suffering from a lack of references to claims being made, and hence the claims could be just made up with no basis. It doesn't matter to the article that the claims are untrue (only one village can be the largest, only one town without a railway station can be the largest), but the fact the claim was made needs to be referenced. I'm afraid without a reference, this can only be taken as own research and will be deleted. Thank you. (I will check here for any responses) Halsteadk (talk) 12:24, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of collieries in Yorkshire 1984-present with dates of closure
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Cannibal Holocaust
Such information is hard to come by from a reliable source. This statistic, although plausible, is very dubious; the stat apparently comes from Deodato, but I've yet to encounter an interview with him in which he mentions this. As for the countries that did ban the film, these countries: ...are all confirmed by reliable sources as to have banned the film at some point. Other countries that are believed to have banned the film but lack an immediately ready and reliable source are: This list of countries is unfit to be included on Wikipedia, as they have not been confirmed. Other countries where it has been rumored that the film was banned include: These two are even less fit to include.
 * Australia
 * Italy
 * The Maldives
 * New Zealand
 * Norway
 * Singapore
 * UK
 * Finland
 * Germany
 * Ireland
 * Malaysia
 * South Africa
 * Sweden
 * West Germany
 * Iceland
 * The Philippines

As for films that weren't banned, the most significant would be Japan for the film's supposed box-office success. However, that statistic has yet to be confirmed. Helltopay27 (talk) 17:07, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

 * The United States doesn't ban films for censorship reasons, unless it falls under extreme exceptions that fall under the obscenity clause. Films that are banned in the United States for obscenity have mostly been extremely violent or perverse fetish pornography (i.e. the feature film version of 2girls1cup). As for conventional films, they can only be banned (i.e. barred from distribution) for civil reasons, such as slander, libel, or copyright infringement. Cannibal Holocaust was never banned in the United States (such an action would be impossible under the First Amendment) and in fact had a rather successful run on the grindhouse circuit in 1985. Helltopay27 (talk) 17:52, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Ethnic cleansing
I agree that the entry on settlement dismantlement should either be removed or altered to reflect other POVs which do not view it as ethnic cleansing. Making changes to that page is highly problematic however. I don't know if you noticed, but I did have an entry for Palestinians there that I spent days working on only to have User:IronDuke delete it. He didn't delete the entry for the Jewish exodus from Arab lands which we were also discussing and which is, in my opinion, much more problematic given the lack of scholarly sources discussing it in terms of ethnic cleansing. I haven't been able to discuss it with him since, because I'm frankly still angry about it.

Many thanks to you for re-adding the entry in a simpler form. If you do wish to work on those other entries, I will pitch in what I can. Be forewarned however, that people tend to let their POVs rather than reliable sources determine what goes into that page. Cheers.  T i a m u t talk 11:19, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

 * All thanks go to you Epa101. Your fair approach to the article and the high quality sources you brought to the discussion are very much appreciated. I hope we can continue to improve that article and others together in the future. Happy editing.  T i a m u t talk 09:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

 * Funny. I have that book in my library somehwere. I'll dig it and read those pages again. Perhaps we should add something to the entry on settlements from Pappe, if not remove the entry altogether.  T i a m u t talk 13:41, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Expulsion of Germans after World War II
In the category "Death toll", I already placed the Expulsion a few hours before you, and it seems you didn't notice it and placed it too. Now the Expulsion appears twice (!) on the list. Should you correct it or should I do?--Justice and Arbitration (talk) 10:17, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Noticed your considered edits at some Romani related articles
RashersTierney (talk) 20:00, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

history of List of wars and disasters by death toll
I did not remove it as my comment in the edit history says "reviewed and edited the expulsion of Germans from Eastern Europe" -- PBS (talk) 23:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, it can be difficult to see changes sometimes. BTW you are not correct on Hamburg and Dresden. There have been others particularly when the popular estimates for the number killed at Dresden rivalled those of the A-bombings. Frank Chalk and Kurt Jonassohn wrote on page 24 of their book The History and Sociology of Genocide "[our] definition of genocide also excludes civilian victims of aerial bombardment in belligerent states. In this we differ from Jean-Paul Sartre and Leo Kuper". Leo Kuper was give a metaphorical kicking over this by Telford Taylor, (a Counsel for the Prosecution at the Nuremberg Trials) when he wrote a review of Kuper's book for the NY Times in which he basically told Kuper to get back in his box ("When people kill a people", The New York Times, 28 March 1982). -- PBS (talk) 00:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

 * That article was written in 1982, the Americans ratified it in the late 80s and as the last member of the UN security council so to do, it allowed for the UN sanctioned International Tribunals of the 1990s and 2000s. As for Srebrenica genocide, for back ground reading see Bosnian Genocide and the Bosnian Genocide Case particularly the ECHR interpretation of the ICJ decision on Serbia in their judgement on Jorgic v. Germany. Basically Ethnic Cleansing under international law is not genocide unless it involve the biological destruction of a significant part of a protected group. What will be interesting given the ICJ and the ECHR rulings, is if the German courts will still use the wider definition of genocide that they used before those International courts made their rulings.

 * That is not to say that genocide scholars will not continue to use different definitions from that of the Genocide Convention, and therefore conclude that some events are genocide even if under international law it would not be, however I think that the body of international law built up in the late 1990s and 2000s will have a an affect on academic research (just as the term Ethnic Cleansing has been used in analysis of historical events like the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland since it became common coin 18 years ago). -- PBS (talk) 09:52, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Ward Churchill is discredited as a reliable source.

A problem we have a lot on Wikiepdia is ediots make up their minds that such and such is the correct definition for something and then go around adding people or events that fit their own view on the subject. See the very long debate on what is or is not terrorism, (specifically at WP:WTA, but it spills out onto the talk pages of terrorism articles). Also see the deletion debates over List of massacres.

Genocide is an unusual crime because it requires the prosecution to show what was in the mind of the person accused of genocide. Not only do they have to prove mass murder, but they also have to show that the motive for that mass murder was to destroy a protected group. So for it to be genocide one has to assess the what part means and the intent of the perpetrators. So for the examples you gave the My Lai massacre would fail the "in part" and the Allied bombing of Germany probably fails both but most certainly fails intent. Bosnia bought the Bosnian Genocide Case partly because they could not bring Serbia for crimes against humanity. But if you look ruling and those of the ITCY several times they find that crimes against humanity and war crimes have been committed or to put it in legal jargon there was actus reus they did not find enough evidence that the accused possessed genocidal intent mens rea. With crimes against humanity one only has to prove actus reus as it would take a real exception (like insanity or coercion) for there to be no mens rea.

But all this is academic because we do not have to decide whether it was or was not a genocide all we need to do is report that such and such an notable person thinks it was a genocide, and hopefully be able to show which one of the many genocide definitions they are using. If we do that then we can report on the UN general council finding that Sabra-Shatila, Lebanon or that the Ethnic cleansing in Bosnia was a genocide Bosnian Genocide even if they are both highly controversial. It is covered by WP:ASF. The problem is that the list we have been looking at is a list and it does not easily lend itself to shades of grey that things like genocide need. -- PBS (talk) 06:32, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
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Porajmos
Re the new section Porajmos, perhaps it should appear closer to the start, for benefit of readers not entirely familiar with the concept. Maybe immediately following 'Using the term'? What do you think? RashersTierney (talk) 11:48, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

You're Getting Old
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BBC Pronunciation and BBC English
Hi, thanks for your message. I hope I am following the right procedure to send you a reply. I am, as you can see, very new to this, though keen to learn. My main concern at present is the "Accent" section of "Norfolk Dialect", which needs some sorting out.

For some reason I thought the change back to "BBC English" had been made by someone called Q Chris, so I sent a reply to him or her. Sorry about that!

It is true that in the English Pronouncing Dictionary I make use of the term BBC English, but I also use (and prefer) BBC Pronunciation and BBC Accent. In the latest edition, the 18th (2011) on p. vi, I wrote " The accent of British English that we describe in this dictionary is called BBC Pronunciation ... It is also sometimes referred to in this section as BBC English or BBC accent ...

Now that I have had this brought to my attention, I regret having used "BBC English", for the same reason that I regret "The Queen's English" is used in the Wikipedia article on Received Pronunciation. These terms could also apply to grammar and vocabulary, and I should have used the term which refers exclusively to pronunciation. I will change this in the dictionary.

Thanks and best wishes,

Peter RoachPeter (talk) 18:08, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Norfolk Accent
Hi, I mentioned that I was hoping to tidy up the material on "Accent" in the Norfolk Dialect entry. I have now finished the rewriting, in consultation with Profs Trudgill and Lodge of UEA. At the moment it's in ordinary text, and I must put it into a form where I can edit it into Wikipedia. If you had time to look at it before I start work on that, it would be much appreciated. I think the simplest thing would be for you to let me have an email address I could send a PDF version to, but if you have a different suggestion I would be happy to follow. Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoachPeter (talk • contribs) 11:06, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Hello, yes, the feature of glottalization is very noticeable in Norfolk, and I have spent some time trying to write it up correctly. I have decided to leave doing my major rewrite of the Norfolk accent until I am back at base in Norwich, as I am away in my holiday home in France and separated from my books. I will be returning next Wednesday. There is a lot I could say about glottalization in general - many years ago I did my PhD on the subject! It is very difficult to disentangle glottalization, glottal reinforcement, glottal replacement, glottalling and pre-glottalization, unfortunately. Just at the moment I seem to be getting a bit overwhelmed by all the information about English phonetics scattered around Wikipedia, and the number of things that need correcting.  Peter Roach. RoachPeter (talk) 17:56, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Yorkshire accent
The material on Yorkshire accents looks good. It's quite nostalgic looking at it, as I taught at Leeds Univ. from 1978 to 1994. I'll go through it at leisure and make a few comments. The main comment I have just now concerns the devoicing of voiced consonants. I don't think it is parallel to the final devoicing in German, Dutch and Polish, as it is, I believe, conditioned by the following consonant being voiceless. So the word 'wide' in isolation ends in /d/, but in 'wide trousers' the first word ends in [t] and there is no difference between 'wide trousers' and 'white trousers'. I remember being shocked hearing a local in Bridlington order a crab sandwich in a cafe! On other matters - I'm sorry to say things have not been going well for me on Wikipedia. I got busy on a number of topics, and also tried to get some other professional phoneticians to join in. Unfortunately I tried to make some wide-ranging changes to the article on Reduced Vowels in English, which seemed to me to have some serious weaknesses. This seemed to bother an editor called KwamiKagami who kept turning down the draft changes I was putting in my sandbox, and in the end his counter-arguments seemed so unhelpful that I told him that I was quitting and leaving the article unchanged. I had decided that I wasn't going to do any more editing, and it's just by chance that I noticed a message from you. I think perhaps English accents are less controversial topics. RoachPeter (talk) 16:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Alternative transcriptions
Thanks for your message (i'd much rather be called Peter). The subject is much on my mind at the moment, and I risk going on for hours about it. Geoff Lindsey's work is very well reasoned and backed up by careful observation. I have been meaning to ask him if he is going to put his ideas in a "proper" publication. BTW, your link to his article didn't work for me, so I'm not sure which of his postings you are thinking of. As for a WP mention, I think it would be quite appropriate to have a section on the subject of why the transcription system used for RP/BBC has been more or less fixed for so long (I would date the unofficial agreement to the 1970's). This could mention various published mentions of this agreement and point to some recent attempts to modernise it, mentioning the OUP dictionary innovations, Geoff's ideas and one or two other authorities that I have noticed.

There is no doubt in my mind that change is due, and I feel a bit guilty that my 'English Phonetics and Phonology' textbook is helping to hold back such a change. Everyone would prefer a situation where we all agree to change together, but it's hard to see how we could manage it. It would need to be put forward by someone with the clout of John Wells, backed up by established names in the subject, and debated at a major conference. The major publishing houses would have to brought on board. I remember CUP turning down the transcription system I proposed to use for my book and insisting that I use the "Gimson system".

Just at the moment I am up to my ears in work producing a new edition of my CUP book (an enhanced ebook to run on iPad, with all examples of sounds, words, sentences etc. having audio when you tap on them), but when I get a break from that (I have just recorded 2500 audio files that have to be checked) I would be glad to cooperate in a suitable section for WP.

Best wishes, Peter  — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoachPeter (talk • contribs) 12:55, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

 * Hello,
 * Yes, Geoff’s blog articles are meant to provoke discussion, I think, and in places he sticks his neck out quite a way. BTW, the Geoff Lindsey page in WP is not for him. His own website is http://englishspeechservices.com/home.htm
 * I do think that discussion of the current “de facto” standard is worth a mention in the RP page. The subject comes up such a lot in John Wells’ blog, and in Jack Windsor Lewis’  “phonetiblogs”. In my English Phonetics and Phonology I wrote (in the 1980’s)
 * A problem area that has received a lot of attention is the choice of symbols for representing English phonemes. In the past, many different conventions have been proposed and students have often been confused by finding that the symbols used in one book are different from the ones they have learned in another. The symbols used in this book are in most respects those devised by A. C. Gimson for his Introduction to the Pronunciation of English, the latest version of which is the revision by Cruttenden (Cruttenden, 2008). These symbols are now used in almost all modern works on English pronunciation published in Britain, and can therefore be looked on as a de facto standard. Although good arguments can be made for some alternative symbols, the advantages of having a common set of symbols for pronunciation teaching materials and pronunciation entries in dictionaries are so great that it would be very regrettable to go back to the confusing diversity of earlier years.’ (EPP, 4th Ed., p 5).
 * There is a book written about the symbolization issue by a former student of mine (Systems for the Phonetic Transcription of English: Theory and Texts (Linguistic Insights: Studies in Language & Communication) Rafael Monroy-Casas (Author). I didn’t have many proposals for symbol change when I submitted my book to CUP. As far as I remember, I wanted (still do!) to use ‘a’ instead of ‘æ’, and /əː/ for /ɜː/

 * A bit off this subject, could I ask your views about the WP transcription proposed in ‘IPA for English’? When I first looked at it, I thought it was rather a mess, and it took me quite a while to understand what the transcription was actually designed to do. I now appreciate that it is an extremely difficult undertaking. I feel that if it is to be useful to everyone, it needs some sort of user-manual style introduction so that readers don’t write it off as too complicated, as I did. I feel the idea really needs some further development. Unfortunately that would, I think, bring it close to OR. That’s what makes me reluctant to start making suggestions for reworking the presentation.
 * Best wishes, Peter  RoachPeter (talk) 14:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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Good evening 101. Your recently added links to on the Morning Star page. The site does not have a valid certificate and readers clicking on the links you added may be exposed to various attacks. I was not able to find the articles to which you referred or the actual UK Communist Party website. Are you able to check the links to the articles please and either remove the links or modify them to point to a valid site. Thanks. Burrobert (talk) 11:51, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

 * Hi, . Sorry about that!  I didn't realise that it might expose some people to attacks.  I have replaced them with one source from The Independent and another from the Morning Star itself.  On the subject of references to Northern Ireland, I've paid some attention to this after reading the sentence with said that articles on the province say "From our foreign desk" (the part that I changed).  Maybe that was true at one time, but it doesn't seem to be so any more.  It's not very consistent: their title in bold for the area reported on sometimes says "North of Ireland", sometimes says "Six Counties" and sometimes just says "Northern Ireland".  I don't think that these headings are used on their website.  I suppose that I could use references to the paper version itself.  Epa101 (talk) 14:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

 * Thanks for updating the links. I would be inclined to remove the Northern Ireland sentence if we can’t find a reference. The statements “On Northern Ireland, the paper takes a pro-Irish nationalism line. News reports from Northern Ireland often use Republican terms for the province such as "the north of Ireland" or "the six counties"” seem to involve an editor’s opinion of the content of the paper. It may be accurate but we generally need a reliable source for such statements. I would avoid linking to the paper itself unless the paper itself makes an explicit statement about its allegiance. Burrobert (talk) 16:46, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

 * Hi, . I don't have a good reference for the naming convention on Northern Ireland.  If you search on their website, they have 1,190 results for the precise phrase "north of Ireland" and 77 results for the precise phrase "six counties", but then also 831 results for the precise phrase "Northern Ireland".  That's the best that I can do.  I don't feel too strongly on it, so I wouldn't kick up a fuss if the phrase is deleted.  Epa101 (talk) 20:17, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Right-ho no problem. What about if we leave the “citation needed” tag on the page for the moment? Someone may find something we can use. The statement isn’t particularly controversial so I don’t think there is any urgency in removing it. Burrobert (talk) 02:57, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm happy to agree with you on that. Merry Christmas Epa101 (talk) 23:34, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

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Hi there, It may no longer be of interest but I saw some of your comments on Peter Tatchell's Talk Page regarding the first of his Guardian letters and I thought this article might be of interest to you. It is a long investigative piece in Peter Tatchell and if he had any links with PIE, and includes a long-form unedited interview with Tatchell at the bottom.

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Hi. Thanks for sharing this with me. That is interesting. Looking back at what I wrote on the Talk page for Tatchell's article long ago, I feel some regrets myself. I thought that he was a great activist for a while. He's not done a huge amount in the last ten years, and now I realise that I had overestimated his contributions. I do not stand by what is on the talk page now: I've changed since then. Thanks. Epa101 (talk) 17:44, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * @Waxworker I'd argue that it's notable as one of the first football-management games. Epa101 (talk) 21:57, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The article is unsourced, and I was unable to find any coverage in reliable sources. Waxworker (talk) 22:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I can understand that this article might have to go, but let's see what I can find. It was reviewed in issue 4 of PC Leisure https://archive.org/details/pc-leisure-04/page/n41/mode/2up?q=%22the+soccer+game%22
 * It was reviewed in issue 40 of ACE: https://archive.org/details/ACEIssue40Jan91/ACE_Issue_40_Jan_91/page/n145/mode/2up?q=%22the+soccer+game%22
 * I think that they're the only two sources that might qualify. I found a bizarre quotation of the Wikipedia article at the start of this article: https://archives.palarch.nl/index.php/jae/article/download/3929/3880/7545
 * And I found the letter that I wrote to Retro Gamer on the game and article, but I cannot use that:
 * https://issuu.com/michelfranca/docs/retro_gamer____111
 * Two magazine articles then. I hazard a guess that's not enough. Epa101 (talk) 19:33, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * With two reviews it doesn't seem to pass WP:GNG - the PC Leisure review is good, but the ACE review is rather short and doesn't say much about the game as it's more about PD software and shareware in general. Waxworker (talk) 01:19, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Waxworker Very well. I'm happy to accept its deletion. It is listed on List of association football video games. Perhaps I can put my two magazine articles there as references, just so that the game is kept alive in a few more memories. Epa101 (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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Merge to Sensation
I placed a merge tag on this article since it seems to be referring to the same concepts that Sensation is. —Wknight94 (talk) 21:02, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree that this page can be merged with sensation Kpmiyapuram 13:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC) fuccndnendkjwenwe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CFDE:DD40:2104:D942:1A3C:55B2 (talk) 19:22, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

 * I created this article anew because the psychology information was all but removed from the Sensation article, and it instead talks about sensation as a fiction writing technique. I don't think that there is, currently, a psychology article on sensation. The psychology info was purportedly moved into the Sense article, which is about sensation from a physiological perspective. As far as I'm concerned, it's all a big mess, and the change I made isn't the best one.  But this isn't my field, so I'm not qualified to say where the line is between physiological and psychological sensation, or between sensation and perception. ThreeOfCups (talk) 23:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Sensation (psychology)
I have moved the article from the title Sensation and perception to Sensation (psychology). As now started, this article is above all about sensation, althought in context of the sensation-->perception model.

Relationship to the article Sense: while the article Sense could have a section "Sensation", "sense" is not synonymous with "sensation". Given the sense of vision, there is (according to one theory) first a visual sensation and then a visual perception. The keyword "sense" does not select between "visual sensation" and "visual perception": both are visual and coming from senses, in this case from sight.

I hope my understanding is correct; I'll gladly stand corrected.

See also:
 * Bertrand Russell: The Analysis of Mind/Lecture_VII - chapter "The Definition of Perception".
 * Bertrand Russell: The Analysis of Mind/Lecture_VIII - chapter "Sensations and Images".

--Dan Polansky (talk) 14:39, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

 * In the discriminatory article "Sensation", this article here is still referred to as "Sensation and Perception". Furthermore, I cannot see this one to be "above all about sensation". I am in favour of an article on sensation that is separate from a general one on the senses. On the other hand, however, an additional article on sensation and perception would be in order, as indicated by the problem of even distinguishing the two, which the present article does not manage well. If sensation is a concept in psychology, then why is it described mainly in biochemical and neurological terms, and what does the reference to brain processes mean? Also, "Gestalt theorists believe that with the two together a person experiences a personal reality that is greater than the parts" needs explication and references.
 * Morton Shumway (talk) 03:23, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Merge to Sensory system
I propose merge to Sensory system. See talk page there for discussion: Talk:Sensory_system. Mikael Häggström (talk) 17:24, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

This psychology article needs help
This doesn't read like a psychology article to me, and the "These topics are considered part of psychology, and not anatomy or physiology, because processes in the brain so greatly affect the perception of a stimulus" line just sounds ridiculous. With that reasoning, any anatomy article can be categorized as a psychology article.

This article is filled with exact anatomical and physiological explanations for biological sensation and doesn't discuss the psychological impact of sensation at all. This article should be talking about the psychological and cultural impacts of sensation, tying in specific disorders, drug use, and the history of the psychological study of sensation. This article does none of these things.

Most of the information in this article needs to be merged with Sensory system and this needs to be entirely rewritten. --Iamozy (talk) 20:44, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

I also just removed an ad for a law firm in the Vision loss subsection. Is anybody paying attention to this article? --21:07, 4 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamozy (talk • contribs)

 * The article has a section on loss of sensation which is fine, but nothing on sensation itself. There should be sections on how each of the 5 senses work.  This should actually be easy to do by just following along through an introduction to psychology textbook.  Unfortunately it would probably take some time investment and that I don't have.  But if someone wanted to take a crack at it, I could look it over.  StoneProphet11 (talk) 12:47, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

 * I have made edits to this page that are more line with an introductory psychology explanation of sensation. I have not made any changes to the "loss of sensation" section considering the previous comment said it was "fine" Bmesri (talk) 08:31, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

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Tropic Island Hum

Tropic Island Hum, released in 2004, but originally recorded in 1987, is a song from Paul McCartney's second animated film for children. The associated single reached #21 in the UK and #30 in Ireland.

Release
The "Tropic Island Hum" film is from a story and screenplay by Paul McCartney, who with his wife, Linda McCartney, provide all the character's voices. They were also the Executive Producers.

The film was first released theatrically on October 10, 1997. It was subsequently released in 2004 on DVD by Miramax Films as one of the segments of Paul McCartney: Music & Animation. The DVD also includes Rupert & the Frog Song, and Tuesday.

Summary
The film tells the story of Wirral the Squirrel, who was almost killed by soldiers. Froggo helped him and took him to another place he would go. He couldn't go back there again! But then, he finds a tropical island. Bison is the chief of that island, and Wirral's new love crush is Wilhelmina. Then, all 3 of them (except Wilhelmina) get cleaned up and that night, they perform the theme song to the island. Bison sings the first part of the song. A parrot gets banged on the bass drum and is dizzy. Later, an alligator sings. Right after that, Wirral blushes at his new love crush Wilhelmina. Then a bad thing appears, the mask-animals try to ruin the party, but then, a school appears, and at the end Wirral & Wilhelmina kiss.

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All songs written by Paul McCartney.

 * 1) "Tropic Island Hum" (Radio Edit) – 3:11
 * 2) "We All Stand Together" (Single Version) – 3:06

Personnel

 * Paul McCartney – lead and backing vocals
 * Marion Montgomery – lead vocals
 * Unknown musician(s) – acoustic guitar, electric guitar, mandolin, double-bass, horns, drums, percussion

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Talk:Memory-mapped I/O and port-mapped I/O

Cumbersome?
The article presently contains the following Bull crap:

 * With the popularisation of higher-level programming languages such as C and Lisp, which do not support generation of the special port-mapped I/O instructions without incompatible and proprietary extensions, port-mapped I/O has become remarkably cumbersome to use.

This is horsepucky. C needs no extensions to do memory-mapped I/O, it simply requires that you understand how your compiler sizes and arranges the various quantities such as char, short, int, and long and how your run-time environment maps virtual memory into the physical address space. (Well, I suppose if you need 16-bit I/O bus accesses and your machine considers a "short" to be 32 bits, you'll need some help, but this is fortunately rare in real-world compilers.)

I've written C-language device drivers for four different platforms (Unix, OpenVMS, VxWorks, and raw iron 8051) so I'm pretty confident that I know of what I speak, but I'll certainly entertain dissenting opinions before editing this blatant POV out of the article. And I can't speak for Lisp so perhaps someone else can opine on that topic.

 * Atlant 16:28, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I think Atlant misread the paragraph. It says C unt× doesn't directly support port-mapped I/O, not that it doesn't support memory-mapped I/O. But any code that has to control I/O ports directly is inherently unportable anyway, so the paragraph still doesn't make any sense. I removed it. Gazpacho 04:16, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

"I/O port" should not redirect to this article. An I/O port is an electrical connection and the circuitry that controls it, and is a completely separate topic from how a processor provides access to the port. Port-mapped I/O should also be moved to a separate article. I'll put this on my watchlist and get back to it soon. Gazpacho 04:08, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
 * "Memory map" also redirects here, even though the article only discusses them in the context of I/O. MFNickster 21:28, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Indeed it does. I wrote an article at memory map, then someone merged it (or asked me to merge it, I forget) into this article. Admittedly it did cover quite a bit of common ground. Maybe it's this article's title that needs a rethink? Graham 02:19, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Too bad they didn't redirect Memory mapping to here -- now there's a duplicate article there, too. Ewlyahoocom

16:46, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I think it is beter to have them seperate as too much of info would be cramed in one single topic

Placement of ROM in the example
As I understand it, in common architectures, ROM needs to be at $0000-$00FF for some 8-bit microprocessors and $FF00-$FFFF for others to allow the processor to see the reset vector. I'll swap the addresses of I/O and ROM for the example. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 03:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Requested move
Definately a bad title, but great content. I like the way this articles attempts to compare two distincts architectural choices. This is the way, that more articles should choose.

Some propositions, off the top of my head: I/O mechanism or I/O device addressing or I/O mapping. Sources needed.

Off-topic WP:OR remark: Also, come to think of it, memory-mapped I/O formally re-defines primary storage (aka main memory) in a very interesting way. Traditionally, primary storage is defined as the one that is directly addressable via CPU. What if... What if there are some registers in a sound card? Do they become my primary storage, too? Obviously, to a program they cannot be easily distinguished from memory locations. To go further... What if I would make a hard drive with entire capacity linearly memory-mapped? The idea of file system suddenly becomes somewhat less useful, since I have uniform pointers-to-RAM and pointers-to-disk now, doesn't it?

--Kubanczyk 00:36, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

What if I would make a hard drive with entire capacity linearly memory-mapped? That's pretty easy to do with virtual memory and paging. You can directly memory map the entire hard drive, from one end to the other, into one large consecutive block of virtual memory. (I'm assuming you have 32 bit pointers and a hard drive less than 4 GiB, or you have 64 bit pointers and a hard drive less than 16 EiB, or you have 128 bit pointers and you avoid boiling the oceans.) You may be interested in some discussion on the original wiki: FileSystemAlternatives. --68.0.124.33 (talk) 03:45, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Some Questions
"In x86 architecture, an input/output base address is a base address used for an I/O port."

Does that mean that those addresses that you used to set by hand (0x220 for Sound Blasters for example) are port I/O addresses and not memory-mapped I/O? How does one determine which type of I/O is used? Is it determined by the hardware designer? Can both be used at the same time by the same device to access the same registers? Also, since 32-bit x86 processors have 4GB of address space, does using memory-mapping and 4GB of RAM make some of the RAM inaccessible? Is video RAM memory-mapped? If so, is it also incompatible with 4GB of physical RAM on 32-bit CPUs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Totsugeki (talk • contribs) 21:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I stumbled upon an answer to my second set of questions in the conventional memory article, in case anyone else is interested.Totsugeki (talk) 13:40, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Interrupts
It is stated that an interrupt can only have the values 0 and 1. What about MSI(-X)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.82.252.208 (talk) 03:42, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Split
Please split this article between memory-mapped and port-mapped IO.
 * Or change the title to reflect both IO methods? 104.228.101.152 (talk) 00:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Chipset
- «Memory-mapped and port-mapped I/O predate chipsets; the PDP-11] had memory-mapped I/O back when various PDP-11s were made out of, for example, 7400-series integrated circuits looking at the 11/20 drawings, it looks as if it was made out of 74xx chips).»
 * Well the term "chipset" is platform-agnostic and means a set of Integrated circuits or devices, not a single IC or whater. The point is that Memory mapped I/O addresses are hardwired by a manufacturer of the computer. This should be said explicitly.

AXO NOV (talk) ⚑ 20:00, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Well the term "chipset" is platform-agnostic Citation needed on that claim. The chipset page says, in its first paragraph:
 * "In a computer system, a chipset is a set of electronic components on one or more ULSI integrated circuits known as a 'Data Flow Management System' that manages the data flow between the processor, memory and peripherals. It is usually found on the motherboard of computers. Chipsets are usually designed to work with a specific family of microprocessors. Because it controls communications between the processor and external devices, the chipset plays a crucial role in determining system performance."
 * The PDP-11/20 had no ULSI integrated circuits; it was a mix of SSI and MSI. The entire CPU, including the data path to the Unibus, was a set of chips.  It may have been simple enough to have a motherboard rather than being on a set of multiple circuit boards, but there was no notion of a "chipset" in the PC sense.
 * The point is that Memory mapped I/O addresses are hardwired by a manufacturer of the computer. On the PDP-11, the architecture only defines the range of memory-mapped I/O addresses.  The address of a particular device is specified by the device manufacturer; some devices may have had jumpers to allow the address to be set so as to avoid collisions.
 * And as for more modern buses, PCI devices don't have hardwired addresses, that's set up at configuration time either by system firmware or the OS. The range of memory or port addresses used for PCI may be specified by the CPU or other hardware, but individual device addresses aren't. Guy Harris (talk) 20:51, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Well PCI Express configuration ranges are fixed. AXO NOV  (talk) ⚑ 21:41, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Ranges, not addresses. And it's configuration ranges; if you have a mechanism to look up information about things by name or address, you can't use that mechanism to find the mechanism, so there needs to be some sort of fixed "root" from which to find other stuff. Memory and I/O addresses for devices, however, aren't fixed. Guy Harris (talk) 22:32, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * On many platforms ranges of RAM addresses for I/O ARE fixed and hardcoded and memory map (memory layout) IS predefined. This is true for many SOCs as well. In the context of PC arch, the PCIe map is configured via PCIe controller register to map into BIOS or OS-specified address ranges to be occupied by PCIe devices during runtime (usually in I/O range of the RAM space). Entire layout of the memory (I/O and General Memory address ranges) is always pre-defined by specific CPU/MCU/MPU arch and design.This is especially evident on x86 systems: the Flash or EPROM I/O address range that contains BIOS always starts at 0xFFFFFFF0 for the first instruction to be executed upon system reset.See sources and datasheets, .e.g:
 * Modern Embedded Computing, 2012, pp. 44.
 * Intel® 64 and IA-32 Architectures Software Developer's Manual Volume 3A: System Programming Guide, Part 1, pp. 335 (Chapter 10.10)
 * AXO NOV (talk) ⚑ 07:22, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Nowhere have I said that the range of addresses used for memory-mapped I/O isn't fixed.
 * What I've said is that the specific addresses for individual devices aren't necessarily fixed and, in cases where they are, they're fixed by the device, not by the system. Guy Harris (talk) 11:12, 4 June 2023 (UTC)