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Golden Toad
There doesn't seem to be any reason for removing all those links. I added them back, if you had a valid reason let me know. Joshuagross 05:06, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Shock value of the internet
Dear Oliver,

I really in the dark mostly with what I am doing in education, Wintec and Ngaruawahia High School, but with this school's support I may just make up a feasable web page. My dad retired in South Australia has posted me his 1994 OLYMPUS D540 digital camera. I tried to print out the manual in the K Lab WINTEC at 2am Friday night but failed, presumably as I have passed my CAT Course, and considered as an exiting student. What you have advised me tonight is needed and wanted, I assume it was google-business, the other details like control F, I sone lost the significance of, if not also the other things you said. That I assume will eventually change. Would you like to view the AU Alumini Meeting invitation Wed 9 August 2006, that you may like to attend. I should be able to find some.

Articles for Deletion: Magnetic Accelerator Cannon, Plasma Rifle, and other articles
Hey,

I've seen that you've been editing some of the Halo weapons pages. I would like to inform you that they are being nominated for deletion.

If you want to partake in the discussions, just go to their respective pages, and hit "this article's deletion entry" link.

I'll be on vacation, and will be unable to contribute to these discussions.

Cheers,

R  e  lentless Rouge  12:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

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John Cornwell (writer)

John Cornwell FRSL (born 21 May 1940) is a British journalist, author, and academic. Since 1990, he has directed the Science and Human Dimension Project at Jesus College, Cambridge, where he was also, until 2017, Founder and Director of the Rustat Conferences. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature and was awarded an Honorary Doctorate of Letters (University of Leicester) in 2011. He was nominated for the PEN/Ackerley Prize for best UK memoir 2007 (Seminary Boy) and shortlisted Specialist Journalist of the Year (science, medicine in Sunday Times Magazine), British Press Awards 2006. He won the Scientific and Medical Network Book of the Year Award for Hitler's Scientists, 2005; and received the Independent Television Authority-Tablet Award for contributions to religious journalism (1994). In 1982 he won the Gold Dagger Award Non-Fiction (1982) for Earth to Earth. He is best known for his investigative journalism; memoir; and his work in public understanding of science. In addition to his books on the relationship between science, ethics and the humanities, he has written widely on the Catholic Church and the modern papacy, often with much controversy.

Early life
John Cornwell was born in East Ham, London, the son of Sidney Arthur Cornwell and Kathleen Egan Cornwell. Raised as a Roman Catholic, Cornwell entered the junior seminary, Cotton College, in 1953 intending to become a priest. He later wrote a memoir of his five years at Cotton. He continued to the senior seminary, Oscott College, Sutton Coldfield, in 1958.

Cornwell studied English Language and Literature at St Benet's Hall, Oxford and was tutored by Jonathan Wordsworth at Exeter College. He graduated in 1964, and went on to Christ's College, Cambridge as a graduate student.

After Cambridge, Cornwell taught in East London schools, before becoming a teaching fellow in English and philosophy at McMaster University, Ontario. From 1970 to 1976 he worked as a freelance journalist, mainly for The Guardian and The Observer Magazine, with periods in Italy and Latin America as a Foreign Correspondent. In 1973 he reported from Buenos Aires, and in 1975 from Santiago, Chile, and Buenos Aires. From 1976 to 1988 he was on the staff at The Observer, serving on the Foreign desk and later as Editor and Manager of The Observer Foreign News Service, which he took from hard copy to high speed wire delivery worldwide. In 1982 he was appointed New Media Publisher, responsible for developing seven parallel media businesses, including creation of UK's first interactive electronic newspaper with Prestel, joint venture book publishing, and educational resources. He was The Observer's delegate at the International Press Institute (1978–1988); investigator and rapporteur on the 20th Century Fund Task Force convened in New York and Oxford in 1978–79 on the tensions between Western free-enterprise media and government media organisations: findings and analysis published in his Free and Balanced Flow (1979).

His first two books were novels: The Spoiled Priest, and Seven Other Demons. Two decades later he published a third novel, Strange Gods. In 1973 he published a critical biography of Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Coleridge, Poet and Revolutionary, 1772–1804.

In 1982 he published Earth to Earth, the story of a farming family tragedy at Winkleigh in Devon, for which he won the non-fiction Gold Dagger Award.

A Thief in the Night
His 1989 book A Thief in the Night investigated the 1978 death of Pope John Paul I, which is surrounded by conspiracy theories. Though Cornwell sharply criticised Vatican prelates, he concluded that the Pope was not murdered but died of a pulmonary embolism, possibly brought on by overwork and neglect.

Hitler's Pope
In 1999, Cornwell published Hitler's Pope, in which he accuses Pope Pius XII of assisting in the legitimisation of the Nazi regime in Germany through the pursuit of a Reichskonkordat in 1933 and of remaining silent, like the Allies, after information about The Holocaust was released to the public in late 1942 and early 1943. Owen Chadwick praised the book's scholarly approach and the abundance of new information Cornwell had managed to unearth.

In 2004, Cornwell stated that Pius XII "had so little scope of action that it is impossible to judge the motives for his silence during the war, while Rome was under the heel of Mussolini and later occupied by Germany ... But even if his prevarications and silences were performed with the best of intentions, he had an obligation in the postwar period to explain those actions". He similarly stated in 2008 that Pius XII's "scope for action was severely limited", but that "[n]evertheless, due to his ineffectual and diplomatic language in respect of the Nazis and the Jews, I still believe that it was incumbent on him to explain his failure to speak out after the war. This he never did." It should be pointed out, that Cornwell was compelled to respond to other scholars' critique of his research and assertions, in regard to Pius' actions during the war.

In a variety of broadcasts and subsequent print commentary Cornwell has continued to insist that Pacelli's principal failure (as Cardinal Secretary of State), through the Reichskonkordat (1933), was to act as a fellow traveller, taking benefits from Hitler on behalf of Pius XI and the Catholic Church while patently distancing himself from Nazi ideology – the effect of which was to scandalise youth, demoralise opposition, and give Hitler credit in the eyes of the world.

In 2003, Cornwell followed up Hitler's Pope with Hitler's Scientists.

A Pontiff in Winter
In 2004, Cornwell also published A Pontiff in Winter, a work critical of Pope John Paul II. Reviews of the book were often fiercely divided. James Carroll in The Washington Post said the book "dissects the record of John Paul II's pontificate with an informed, dispassionate and fully convincing authority". Writing in The Guardian, Stephen Bates said: "John Cornwell has produced a devastating report. Catholics should read it, if not to change their views – though perhaps it should – then at least to inform them".

Newman's Unquiet Grave: The Reluctant Saint
Published in 2010 by Continuum, this biography of Cardinal John Henry Newman coincided with renewed interest in the 19th century theologian and religious leader as a result of his beatification during the Papal visit by Pope Benedict XVI to England and Scotland. Philosopher Anthony Kenny in The Times Literary Supplement wrote that "Newman's Unquiet Grave is a substantial achievement ... John Cornwell has taken on the task of writing a biography of Newman to make his life intelligible to the largely secular public which in a few weeks will watch on television the ceremony of his beatification. He has followed a via media between the hagiography of Meriol Trevor and the mockery of Lytton Strachey, and he has produced a Life which is readable, sympathetic and judicious ... Altogether, he has succeeded in building up a vivid picture of Newman's personality."

Science, Ethics and Humanities
As Research Fellow (elected 1990, Fellow Commoner 1996) and Director of the Science and Human Dimension Project at Jesus College, Cambridge, Cornwell has brought together many scientists, philosophers, ethicists, authors and journalists to debate and discuss a range of topics. His books in the field of public understanding of science include Nature's Imagination, Consciousness and Human Identity, and Explanations, all published by Oxford University Press. His journalism in this field has been published in a variety of outlets including Financial Times, Sunday Times Magazine, The Observer, New Statesman, New Scientist, Nature, Prospect, Times Literary Supplement, The Tablet, Brain, New Scientist, The Guardian, and The Times. Broadcast contributions to many BBC programmes, especially on culture, science and religion, including Hard Talk, Choice, Start the Week, The Moral Maze (e.g., witness on genetic determinism debate), Today (e.g., debate with Richard Dawkins); Beyond Belief (on John Henry Newman's The Idea of a University), Thought for the Day (on Darwin's birthday), Sunday, and various programmes in the BBC's World Service.

Rustat Conferences
From 2009 to 2017, he was director of the Rustat Conferences, also based at Jesus College, Cambridge. This project brought together academics with those from politics, business, the media and education to discuss the vital issues of the day in a roundtable format. The first two meetings in 2009 discussed the global Economic Crisis, and the Future of Democracy. The third meeting addressed Infrastructure and the Future of Society – infrastructure for energy security, cities of the future, and water.

Works

 * The Spoiled Priest (1969)
 * Seven Other Demons (1971)
 * Coleridge, Poet and Revolutionary, 1772–1804: A Critical Biography (1973)
 * Free and Balanced (1979)
 * Earth to Earth: A True Story of the Lives and Violent Deaths of a Devon Farming Family (1982)
 * A Thief in the Night: The Mysterious Death of Pope John Paul I (1989) ISBN 9780141001838
 * Powers of Darkness, Powers of Light (also published as The Hiding Places of God) (1991)

 * Strange Gods (1993)
 * Nature's Imagination: The Frontiers of Scientific Vision (editor) (1995)
 * The Power to Harm: Mind, Medicine, and Murder on Trial (1996)
 * Consciousness and Human Identity (editor) (1998)
 * Hitler's Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII (1999) ISBN 9780670876204
 * Breaking Faith: The Pope, the People and the Fate of Catholicism (2001) ISBN 9780141004631
 * Hitler's Scientists: Science, War, and the Devil's Pact (2003) ISBN 9780670030750
 * Explanations: Styles of Explanation in Science (editor) (2004)
 * The Pontiff in Winter (2004) ISBN 9780739318478
 * Seminary Boy (2006) ISBN 9780385514866
 * Darwin's Angel (2007)
 * Philosophers and God: At the Frontiers of Faith and Reason (co-editor with Michael McGhee) (2009)
 * Newman's Unquiet Grave: The Reluctant Saint (2010)
 * Meditations of Samuel Taylor Coleridge  (editor) (2012)
 * The Dark Box: A Secret History of Confession (2014)
 * Church, Interrupted: Havoc & Hope: The Tender Revolt of Pope Francis (2021)

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Curse of Tippecanoe

The Curse of Tippecanoe (also known as Tecumseh's Curse, the 20-year Curse or the Zero Curse ) is an urban legend about the deaths in office of presidents of the United States who were elected in years divisible by 20. According to the legend, Tenskwatawa, leader of Native American tribes defeated in 1811 at the Battle of Tippecanoe by a military expedition led by William Henry Harrison, had cursed the "Great White Fathers".

Since 1840, eight presidents have died in office. Seven of them were elected in years divisible by 20: William Henry Harrison (1840), Abraham Lincoln (1860), James A. Garfield (1880), William McKinley (1900), Warren G. Harding (1920), Franklin D. Roosevelt (1940) and John F. Kennedy (1960). Two former presidents elected in applicable years, Ronald Reagan in 1980 and George W. Bush in 2000, did not die in office.

History
Thomas Jefferson, elected in 1800, and James Monroe, elected in 1820, preceded the supposed curse and outlived their presidencies by 17 and 6 years, respectively. Neither of them was ever targeted by an assassin. However, there is a curious coincidence that both men died on the Fourth of July.

William Henry Harrison was elected president in 1840 and died in 1841, just a month after being sworn in. In Tecumseh's War, Shawnee leader Tecumseh and his younger brother Tenskwatawa organized a confederation of Indian tribes to resist the westward expansion of the United States. In the 1811 Battle of Tippecanoe, Harrison defeated Tenskwatawa and his troops, acting as the governor of the Indiana Territory. Harrison thus earned the moniker "Old Tippecanoe".

In 1931 and 1948, the trivia book series Ripley's Believe It or Not! noted the pattern and termed it the "Curse of Tippecanoe". Strange as It Seems by John Hix ran a cartoon prior to the election of 1940 titled "Curse over the White House!" and claimed that "In the last 100 years, Every U.S. President Elected at 20-Year Intervals Has Died In Office!" In February 1960, journalist Ed Koterba noted that "The next President of the United States will face an eerie curse that for more than a century has hung over every chief executive elected in a year ending with zero." Both of their hints at the elected president's death came true, with Roosevelt's death in 1945 and Kennedy's assassination in 1963.

The first written account to refer to the source of the curse was an article by Lloyd Shearer in 1980 in Parade magazine. It is claimed that when Tecumseh was killed in a later battle, Tenskwatawa set a curse against Harrison.

Running for re-election in 1980, President Jimmy Carter was asked about the curse at a campaign stop in Dayton, Ohio, on October 2 of that year while taking questions from the crowd. A high school student asked Carter if he was concerned about "predictions that every 20 years or election years ending in zero, the President dies in office." Carter replied, "I've seen those predictions. [...] I'm not afraid. If I knew it was going to happen, I would go ahead and be President and do the best I could till the last day I could." He would later become, and as of July 2024, still is the oldest living former president at 99 years old.

Since the assassination of John F. Kennedy in 1963, no president has died in office. Ronald Reagan was shot and wounded severely two months after his 1981 inauguration. Days after Reagan survived the shooting, columnist Jack Anderson wrote "Reagan and the Eerie Zero Factor" in The Daily Intelligencer and asserted that the 40th president either had disproved the superstition or had nine lives. As the oldest man to be elected president at that time, Reagan also survived surgery in 1985. First Lady Nancy Reagan was reported to have hired psychics and astrologers to try to protect her husband from the effects of the curse. Reagan left office in 1989 and ultimately died from natural causes in 2004. He was 93 years old and had survived his presidency by 15 years.

The president elected in 2000, George W. Bush, also survived two terms in office. In 2005, a live grenade was thrown at him but failed to explode. Bush left office in 2009 and is currently living.

The only one of the eight presidents who died in office who was not elected in a year covered by the curse was Zachary Taylor, elected in 1848, but died in 1850, a year ending in zero. Like Reagan and Bush, many presidents outside the curse have faced assassination attempts or medical problems.

Criticism
Snopes rates the claim that a "death curse threatens U.S. presidents elected in years evenly divisible by twenty" a legend and undocumented folktale not supported by actual records of Tecumseh cursing the "Great White Fathers" after his defeat at Tippecanoe. Multiple sources have called the failure of the curse after 1960 a disproof of a curse as an explanation for the deaths in office.

According to Timothy Redmond of the Skeptical Inquirer, the supposed curse demonstrates a number of logical fallacies, including confusing correlation with causation, cherrypicking, and moving the goalposts. In layman's terms, out of many unlikely eerie patterns, at least one of those hypothetical patterns is likely to come true. Snopes rates the curse on its fact-checking scale as a "legend", a rating given to over-general or unprovable claims, and denies a supernatural explanation for the curse.

In 2009, Steve Friess of Slate sought to interview notable presidential historians and security experts such as Michael Beschloss, Doris Kearns Goodwin, and Richard A. Clarke on the alleged curse, but none of them returned his calls. Michael S. Sherry, American history professor at Northwestern University, replied, "I doubt I have anything profound to say about this particular factoid, odd though it is."

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Merge with NewsNation?
With WGN America's rebrand to NewsNation as the network? Trying to figure out what to do with pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgcolton (talk • contribs) 19:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

 * So it looks like yes, WGN America page did change to NewsNation but the NewsNation page is now NewsNation Prime page. 72.209.29.141 (talk) 00:31, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 26 January 2021

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The result of the move request was: Not moved  (t · c)  buidhe  10:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

– The network WGN America is changing names to NewsNation. The current primetime newscast called NewsNation will be changing names to NewsNationPrime.
 * WGN America → NewsNation
 * NewsNation (WGN America) → NewsNationPrime
 * NewsNation → NewsNation (Disambiguation)

Mgcolton (talk) 00:44, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

 * Is there enough content on NewsNationPrime to make it its own article? Maybe a "news operation" on the NewsNation page to discuss the news operation? As far as I can tell, other than Banfield (which already has its own article), the other four hours will be pretty similar, like different hours of MSNBC Live. (It's also a good reminder to make an article for Joe Donlon, since if Jeff Gianola is notable enough for an article, so is Donlon.) So merge NewsNation with WGN America. Calwatch (talk) 02:11, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

 * Support, but not now – Wait until the rebranding on March 1. JE98 (talk) 04:33, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose for now as too soon until at least the rebranding on March 1. See also WP:NAMECHANGES. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:49, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose: No evidence or commentary about WP:PRIMARYTOPIC question, no evidence of WP:COMMONNAME usage. Per WP:DEFUNCTS and WP:COMMONNAME, Wikipedia does not care only about the latest official branding of things. — BarrelProof (talk) 16:27, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Wait until March 1 at least. In any event, the correct title for WGN America might really be NewsNation (American TV network). It may be coming time to move News Nation—about an Indian cable news network—to a disambiguated title, but I'd want to hear some more feedback on that idea. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 07:52, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose for now. It's too soon. Try again in a month or 2. Rreagan007 (talk) 06:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 7 March 2021

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The result of the move request was: page moved to NewsNation, in the second case from NewsNation to News Nation (disambiguation) instead of to NewsNation (disambiguation). (closed by non-admin page mover) — Nnadigoodluck  █ █ █  08:03, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

– Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, this is the only channel blatantly called "NewsNation". The Indian channel is called "News Nation" with a space in the middle, "News Nation Assam" should quite frankly be merged into "News Nation", and "NewsNation with Tamron Hall" has more to its name. There needs to be some organization among the four topics here. JE98 (talk) 16:36, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * NewsNation (American TV channel) → NewsNation
 * NewsNation → NewsNation (disambiguation)

 * Support the first as per nom, and as per WP:SMALLDETAILS. Meanwhile, the disambiguation page should be moved to News Nation (disambiguation), with NewsNation (disambiguation) redirecting to the former. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:37, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

 * Support - Per IJBall, though I'm somewhat neutral on location of the disambiguation page. BilCat (talk) 18:58, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

 * Support per nom. Csworldwide1 (talk) 22:34, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your support, I am cool with "News Nation (disambiguation)" being the name of the new disambiguation page. JE98 (talk) 04:25, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Add slogan since NewsNation has a slogan
Can someone please add the slogan "Your News. Your Nation.", which is the first slogan when NewsNation was first launched in 2020 and/or "News for all America" as of July 30, 2021. I don't know which slogan they used now but they do have a slogan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.209.29.141 (talk) 16:21, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

 * Slogans are no longer used in Template:Infobox television channel, per Template talk:Infobox television channel/Archive 3. BilCat (talk) 19:10, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks 72.209.29.141 (talk) 13:31, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Does this article need to be cleaned up to remove poor sources
User:MaterialscientistUser:Vjmlhds I think you are the most recent experienced editors to edit here. What do you think? Doug Weller talk 16:52, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

 * The sources used are OK. They are all by and large legitimate media news sites.  Now the News Nation website is used for a lot of things, but considering it is the network itself telling you what is on the network,  you can't get any better than straight from the horse's mouth Vjmlhds (talk)  19:00, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Disagree. We need secondary independent reliable sources to show the significance of anything for a start. Doug Weller  talk 21:39, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Ross Coulthart hired
According to Jason Colavito who writes "Meanwhile, the so-called “Schumer amendment” on UFO disclosure seems poised to disappear from the final version of the National Defense Authorization Act because of opposition from key Republicans, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Mike Johnson. The sticking point seems to be an overbroad eminent domain provision that would let the government seize any private property they suspect may be from outer space. However, ufologists are flipping their lid over the fizzling UFO disclosure movement, leading British writer Chris Sharp’s pro-UFO Liberation Times to quote one “source” (and since Sharp has only a few, we can guess who it likely is) as threatening that UFO believers will stage an insurrection if lawmakers don’t pass new UFO laws. Australian UFO gadfly Ross Coulthart seconded the motion in a podcast, calling for lawmakers who stand in the way of UFO laws to be dragged through the streets and tarred and feathered. Did I mention he got hired by NewsNation? Yes, NewsNation is where you can threaten violence against government officials and still get hired for new TV projects."

Sorry, no link as it's in his newsletter and I can't find a link to that! Doug Weller talk 16:56, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Tucker Carlson and Putin interview
Carlson's sudden interest in interviewing Putin.?? 2601:282:1F22:D76E:F4F3:CE36:D5AB:A40D (talk) 05:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

In what way does NewsNation lean?
It would be helpful if the article mentioned in which direction NewsNation is biased. That's the first thing I came looking for. --Rob Kam (talk) 12:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:As I Lay Dying

Addie's opinion on her children
I have changed the sentence near the end stating that Addie regards all her children dismissively but one to all but two. Remember that though she clearly favors Jewel, she also loves (without using the empty word) Cash for "violating" her, making him the first person she feels a connection with. If anybody disagrees with this change, feel free to revert it, but please put your reasoning here. --queso man 23:17, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I don't know if it's fair to say she feels dismissively towards Darl and Dewey Dell, even Vardaman. She definitely does love Cash (and obviously Jewel).

 * Yes, she doesn't quite dismiss Darl; she instead dislikes him. As for the other two, not enough information is given. I didn't want to change this too radically without a proper discussion, though. --queso man 22:10, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

 * In her one chapter, I got this impression: She feels that the births of both Cash and Darl violated her. As revenge, she has an affair with Whitfield (who she really doesn't love) and Jewel is born.  She loves Jewel. To 'pay for' or 'cancel out' Jewel's birth she 'gives' Anse Dewey Dell.  Finally, they have Vardaman, but by then she really doesn't care.  So I would say it's fair to say she feels dismisively towards Dewey Dell and Vardaman.  As for Darl, she hates his existance, although Darl loves her.  I don't think she loves Cash (I saw no signs of that at all.)  I think she merely pays attention to Cash's building the coffin because she is so preoccupied with her own death. I do remember now that she feels a connection with Cash because of how his birth "violated" her, but I wouldn't say she loves him. Am I totally off base, or do people agree with these statements (at least somewhat?) FerralMoonrender (MyTalk • MyContribs • EmailMe) 01:27, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

 * That's almost exactly how I thought of it. However, notice she only uses the term "violate" for Cash, and it's in a good context. Therefore, I think she meant violate in a good way. It's clear she disliked Darl based on that chapter, however. She loved Cash, as partially shown by her own chapter (sorry, don't still have the book; can't cite) and partially near the beginning, during which she looks out the window at Cash's work. You mentioned that she does this because she's preoccupied with her death, but if you combine it with my interpretation of Cash's birth in the above passage, it makes sense. I think the main problem in reaching a consensus on this is which interpretation to use it this, as it is very much up for debate. Remember, she hated the school children because they did not regard her as important and felt no connection with her. She beat them to make herself feel important and to force a connection. If she and Cash had such a connection, it would make sense that she would love him. --queso man 01:21, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

 * I see where your coming from with the info about the school children. I would still debate the statement that she loved Cash, but that not really what this space is for. As you pointed out, it is very hard to write a section on this in the article specifically because of the debate, especially trying to keep with NPOV. Could we somehow include a brief section that discusses the debate and the different Points of View, without proclaiming one to be "right" and ths keep with NPOV? FerralMoonrender (MyTalk • MyContribs • EmailMe) 01:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * We could, although I'm not sure of the significance of this debate in particular. A lot of novel articles do have a section like that, and this is one of the most hotly debated novels from the time period, possibly the history of writing. I'm not familiar enough with the thematic conflict to start that section, though. --Qmwne235 22:47, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Christlike figures section
This needs to be completely rewritten or else deleted. It is atrocious. The two last paragraphs contradict each other in stating that different characters are "the Christ-like figure" to be found in the novel. Other gems include lines like "The true hero lives in the tension between thinking and acting…"

I will leave it up for a day as a grace period, but unless anyone familiar with the work steps up to rewrite this section, it will be removed. Ipsenaut 01:19, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree that the section was pretty bad, and it was probably original research considering it also had no references. But don't you think a day is a bit too short? I know it could be rewritten, but considering it's taken more than a year for someone to reply... -- Qmwne 235  16:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Title suggests other things
The Agamemnon quote refers to Greek rites including the lady with dog like eyes which is goddess Isis or the Holy Spirit and your dying is a prelude then to your rebirth as a Christlike figure or quetzacoatl ...

harkonen 19 @ atreides —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.247.22.112 (talk) 15:42, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

Yes,...furthermore, Agamemnon does not seem to address Odysseus in the whole of Book Eleven. So what is this title stuff from? It needs a citation.

I don't have a copy of The Odyssey on me at the moment, but the Editors' Note at the end of the First Vintage International Edition (October 1990) of As I Lay Dying agrees fully with the info in the article. It says says "When asked the source of his title, Faulkner would sometimes quote from memory the speech of Agamemnon to Odysseus, in the Odyssey, Book XI: " and then gives the exact same quote as in the article. FerralMoonrender (MyTalk • MyContribs • EmailMe) 03:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC) P.S. Please sign your posts. Thanks.

I think that the lady with the dog's eyes is Clytemnestra, personally. It was a Greek tradition that he or she who was closest to the one who was dying would close his/her eyes, I believe. Clytemnestra refused to do this because she hated Agamemnon and had killed him. Agamemnon was telling his story to Odysseus while the latter was in the underworld to get information from Teiresias. I have not read the Odyssey, but I have read the Oresteia, which led my to my hypothesis. --queso man 23:21, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it's Clytemnestra with the dog's eyes. Like Clytemnestra, Addie is a deeply repugnant character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.31.7.21 (talk) 16:31, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Over-promotion of English
Do we really need a reference, with links, to "the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, and other English-speaking countries"? Is the distinction between colleges and universities worth mentioning? Hasn't Faulkner received recognition outside Anglophonia?D021317c 03:36, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * He does have a lot of recognition outside of English-speaking countries (especially Sweden in 1951), but not as much as in English-speaking countries. I agree that that part should be removed. Also, in most countries, the difference between colleges and universities in this context is not worth noting. -- Qmwne 235  16:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

This is not true. Before the Nobel Prize he was more read in France than anywhere else. See Sartre and de Beauvoir's aarticle on him in modern times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.232.66.242 (talk) 21:57, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Character ages
Nowhere in the book does it actually give the exact ages of any of the characters, so I am curious as to where these numbers came from. Could the person who added them please give a citation? The book does state the childrens' relative ages, so If nobody comes up with a citation, I will change them to approximate ages or just "youngest," "oldest," etc. FerralMoonrender (MyTalk • MyContribs • EmailMe) 03:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

 * For Darl, the age is mentioned. When Darl refers to Cash having done what he was doing for two years before he could have enjoyed it (Chapter 3), it is implied that he is two years younger. As for Vardaman, I have heard guesses from 5 to 14. I suppose the person who added this information chose 7-9 because of his general manner of thought and the fact that Tull could not see him when he opened the door, signifying that he is short. I don't know the reasoning behind the other two. --queso man 23:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

 * It says Dewey Dell is 17 in, I beleive, Moseley's chapter 23:04, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes, it says so in there and in her own last chapter. I would like to correct my earlier statement. Darl's age is not given directly. However, Jewel is known to be within two years of age and older than Dewey Dell, and Darl is about ten years older than Jewel (I forgot where this can be found). It is implied that Cash is two years older than Darl in Darl's second chapter, the third in the book. Vardaman's age is never even implied; one possible conclusion is that he is 7-9, as per my reasoning above. --queso man 22:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

 * I don't have a copy of the book on hand, but I'll believe you people about Dewey Dell being 17 and the other relative ages. The only thing I would be hesitant to put in is an age for Vardaman (even an estimate) as I have heard much debate as to whether he was just very young or actually mentally impared. Otherwise, It would be great if you would put in the relative ages, and that Dewey Dell is 17.  I'll leave it to you, because as I said I don't have a copy of the book, so I don't have the exact facts.  Thanks for all your help. FerralMoonrender (MyTalk • MyContribs • EmailMe) 01:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that Vardaman's age is debatable. I remember my teacher telling me that Cliff Notes gave his age as 14, which both of us disagreed with. I personally got the impression that he was around 9; others though he was closer to 7. Having a variation in possible ages of 100% is a bit too much for a definite answer. The rest of them are roughly deducible from Dewey Dell's age and scattered hints mentioned earlier. --Qmwne235 22:42, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Sections that need to be added
I think the plot summary and Literary Techniques sections need to be expanded. I am definately willing to do this, but I don't have the time at this moment. I should be back in a couple days. The book is also very thematic, and the major themes absolutely must be covered (I sense some major debate will follow about what those themes are.) If it's not too much, a "reactions to / impacts of this book" section may be useful. And shouldn't we mention that it won a Nobel prize? FerralMoonrender (MyTalk • MyContribs • EmailMe) 01:34, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The problem with that is that the book itself didn't win the Nobel Prize, Faulkner did for all his work - in 1949, long after As I Lay Dying was written, and much closer to the date Intruder in the Dust was written (of course, he didn't win it for this either; the Nobel Prize is for a life's work).
 * I do agree that we do need a section on themes as soon as possible. --queso man 01:25, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation?
Surely the novel is more significant? 138.69.160.1 20:00, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, but probably not enough to warrant moving this to replace the disambiguation. After all, the band is somewhat famous. I'm not sure myself; the novel definitely is more important, but it seems that especially among younger people (like me), the band at least prevents the novel from obtaining that kind of almost universal recognition when the name is mentioned that's usually pretty common in articles for which there are disambiguations but that still have a title without any parenthetical descriptions. --Qmwne235 22:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The novel more significant? Hm, thats quite irrelevant. The band's well known too. Who these people who decide that the novel is more significant? Nothing is more signifcant than something else. "As i lay dying " should be a page where you have the choice between the novel and band...--Narayaan (talk) 19:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The general guideline is that if one possibility is much more notable than all the others, it should be the one to which readers are redirected. For example, Einstein redirects to Albert Einstein, not Einstein (disambiguation) or Einstein (crater). As for your statement that nothing is more notable than anything else, I would dispute that. Albert Einstein is certainly more notable than the crater. I'm still not sure the novel is much more notable (although it's much more significant) than the band. I would normally agree that we should make a disambiguation, but since the system has already been set up this way, I suppose it should stay that way, since both systems would probably work equally well. -- Qmwne 235  00:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

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Doctor Peabody
Peabody, the doctor in the novel, responsible for at least one chapter of the books content, is not mentioned within the article. I do not know the book well enough to add him in myself, so would he be mentioned somewhere?Just another guy trying to be a Chemical Engineer, Nanobiotechnologist, and Mathematician (talk) 03:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You're right, and he seems to be a somewhat important character in the beginning. Even though you said that you aren't very familiar with the book, maybe you should just add a brief description of his activities and thoughts. Unfortunately, I no longer have a copy of the book, so I can't do it myself. Moseley would be another character it might by best to mention, but probably under Dewey Dell. -- Qmwne 235  00:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I added a short section on Peabody. Improve it if you can. Eva-psyche (talk) 05:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you to 99.234.29.73 for correcting my error on Peabody. Eva-psyche (talk) 22:48, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

As I Lay Dying disambiguation
A few months ago a very limited discussion was held by a few editors on an disambig redirect page. The result was a claimed "consensus" that the article As I Lay Dying should redirect to As I Lay Dying (disambiguation). The reasoning was that a band named after the novel was now more well known than the novel, meaning the main "As I Lay Dying" phrase shouldn't link only to the novel.

The problem is that as it clearly states here, disambig pages should only be created "If there are three or more topics associated with the same term." That is not the case here. Since the band is named for the book, making the book the primary topic, and the band's album has part of its title taken from the band's name, the proper course is to have a disambig link at the top of the novel article.

If people want to change this guidelines, that is fine. But to do that, we need to have a true consensus building discussion. Please go [|here] to voice your opinion on this issue.--SouthernNights (talk) 17:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Actually, there is no conflict here with any guideline. A requested move of the disambiguation page to the base name has been made;  see Talk:As I Lay Dying (disambiguation). --Una Smith (talk) 21:38, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Requested move 2009

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The result of the move request was no consensus. Primary topic moves must show a clear, unambiguous prevalence for a single topic; that is not apparent here. kotra (talk) 00:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

As I Lay Dying (novel) → As I Lay Dying — The novel is the clear primary topic of this name. Some time ago it was argued that As I Lay Dying (band) should be the primary target, but use in reliable sources favors the novel by a very wide margin.--Cúchullain t/ c 17:20, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * As I Lay Dying → As I Lay Dying (disambiguation)

Survey

 * Oppose. I was in favor of the proposed arrangment back in January, when the previous moves made traffic stats questionable. Looking at the traffic stats now (3 times as many hits for the band than for the novel for each of the past two months), I would leave the disambig at the base name (if the hits are balanced by the reliable sourcing mentioned above) or move the band to the base name (if they don't). -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:23, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:PRIMARYTOPIC lists the traffic stats tool as one of the "Tools that may help determine a primary topic, but are not determining factors..." In this case I don't think a few months of more page hits for the band does much to challenge 79 years of prominence for the novel. The only uncontentious way for us to make a judgment is to look at the most common usage demonstrable by reliable sources, and as I have pointed out below, use in reliable sources favors the novel by an order of magnitude.--Cúchullain t/ c 13:36, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand, but I disagree with that weighting of the two metrics, and with the claim that the way that favors one is the only uncontentious way, as it seems contentious. "Primary topic" in Wikipedia does not necessarily mean "first", "earliest", "most important", or "most scholarly", nor does it necessarily mean "most recent", "most popular", or "most Google hits". It just means "more used". -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:05, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

 * Oppose. Use in reliable sources (favouring the book) and traffic stats (favouring the band) are just two of many possible ways that the guidelines say this can be sorted out. They're all valid, and it's helpful to check them all to have a complete picture, but trying to argue that one is more important than the other just becomes a value judgement. I'll throw in a couple of arguments I've referenced before in favour of leaving the dab at the base name. First, unfortunately not everyone is as careful as we would like when creating links in articles, and so one of the purposes of a dab page is to collect incoming links so that they can be edited and pointed toward the correct article. As was the case when this was last discussed, the majority of the incoming links to the dab page right now would correctly be pointed to the band. Secondly, and I'm paraphrasing, but when there's extended discussion about which usage is the primary topic, that may mean that there is no primary topic. We've definitely had extended discussion, and on a number of occasions now. As far as I can see, this is the very definition of ambiguous and the status quo ought to be a solution that's equally agreeable/disagreeable to everyone. Plus — and I say this tongue firmly in cheek — maintaining this as a dab page helps to fulfill the project's educational goals as well; the metalcore crowd looking for the article on the band can get exposed to some literature, the literary crowd looking for the article on the book can get exposed to some popular culture, and the venn diagram intersection of the two groups can revel in the convergence of their interests. Mlaffs (talk) 16:39, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. Novel is primary, band is derivative of novel, and novel is much more highly notable. Internet traffic from a particular point in time does not prove notability or primacy or importance over the decades or centuries. Softlavender (talk) 09:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Internet traffic is an indicator; your claim of "much more highly notable" is also unproven. We are only trying to determine what the primary topic is right now, not a century ago or a century from now. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:14, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * If you look at my comments below, the novel appears in reliable, secondary sources much more frequently than the band does, which is the indicator of notability. Whether this necessarily indicates that it's the primary topic is another matter, but in this particular case I think it's a better measurement than the "what links here" tool and the page view statistics, which have been corrupted by the long and protracted edit wars and don't give any indication of long-term importance or prominence. Similarly the Google test yields different results depending on the particular search used (though the more useful Google Books and Google Scholar searches resoundingly favor the novel).--Cúchullain t/ c 12:33, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Both articles are notable (if not, one or both should be deleted). Primary is not "most notable", but "more used". Count of reliable sourcings is not listed at WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. How have the recent long and protracted edit wars corrupted the page views? When did they start? -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:41, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You have argued yourself at Talk:As I Lay Dying that the edit wars have corrupted the page view statistics. Granted, that was earlier this year, but the slow-but-steady move warring began in 2007 and continued until January 2009, so we have a year and a half of statistics that will show us skewed stats. At any rate, the page view tool is just one "that may help determine a primary topic, but are not determining factors...", according to the guideline where WP:PRIMARYTOPIC appears. The novel is clearly "more used" in the type of scholarly sources Wikipedia relies on.--Cúchullain t/ c 13:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I noted that there were moves late last year (or at least before the end of January this year) that would have rendered counts for those times less useful. That now leaves us "good" stats from February through August, unless there's some other issue with those stats. I looked at the stats from July and August, which are what I based my !vote on (because I may do so) -- they helped inform my !vote, but I decided it. And the primary topic is the one "more used in Wikipedia", not "more used in the reliable sources that are then used by Wikipedia". -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:34, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * This is more or less what I was referring to above, Cúchullain, when I was talking about saying that one method of determining primary source was better than another being a value judgement. There's nothing in the primary topic guidelines that says that the Google Books and Google Scholar searches are "more useful" — they're listed equally prominently with Google Web and Google News, not to mention "what links here" and traffic stats. They are all equally valid methods of trying to determine primary topic. In summary:
 * Google Web seems to be uninstructive, about as many hits for each
 * Google News seems to provide more hits for the band over a recent period, more hits for the book over a longer period
 * Google Books overwhelmingly favours the book (not surprisingly)
 * Google Scholar overwhelmingly favours the book (again, not surprisingly)
 * Recent traffic stats (those not muddied by page moves) seem to favour the band
 * By my rough count, "what links here" for the book returns approximately 105 results, of which about 60 are to article or article talk space (the rest being user, user talk, and project space). "What links here" for the band returns approximately 350 results, of which about 190 are to article or article talk space. Three times as many links used within this site would seem to favour the band
 * Not included in the guidelines, but I think instructive, is "what links here" for the dab page in terms of links that need cleaning. Both when this discussion last took place and now, the vast majority of links that needed cleaning were for the band
 * I've said it before, and I'll say it again — this is the very definition of ambiguous. It hurts nobody and confuses nobody to leave the dab page at the base name.Mlaffs (talk) 13:58, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Through my search, the band has about x6 more web hits than the novel. Band and the Novel. The same with the news results. 1 250 hits for the band and 866 for the novel, with the earliest novel news in 1930 and the earliest band news in 1970. Although I do suspect some contaminated results, as the band was not formed in 1970, I suspect the musicians in the band were children at the time. Jerry teps (talk) 01:32, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I also support leaving it as it is.Jerry teps (talk) 01:32, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, my results may be slightly inaccurate as safe search is turned on. As I am currently at TAFE, I cannot turn it back off. But I assume this would only slightly alter the results. Jerry teps (talk) 01:44, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

 * Oppose – Leave it as it is. There's nothing wrong as it currently is, and is a good compromise for both parties. I have made a few points below as well if you wish to read them. Jerry teps (talk) 01:39, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

 * Oppose - novel is clearly primary and of greater note, the band being derivative. However why waste all this time breath and aggravation on changing something that is so unimportant. Especially as the existing arrange work quite well enough. Amazed of the UK! :: Kevinalewis  : (Talk Page) /(Desk)  08:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Full marks to Cúchullain for kicking off a fresh discussion. For context, please note that past discussion(s) regarding this subject can be found at Talk:As I Lay Dying. Mlaffs (talk) 17:36, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

 * A consensus cannot be made if only one side is participating. Also, the point made about the Google books results is extremely weak. Of course it's going to appear more often than the band. Shall I look for the novel on "google music". Searching "As I Lay Dying" + "band" results in more hits in Google Search and Google News (In "All dates" archive) compared to "As I Lay Dying" + "novel". Also, to R. fiend, who can't help but to throw insults to try and make my points look weak. I do not listen to the band. At all. Nor do I like the genre of music. Stop making assumptions and childish insults. Also, as everyone appears to have completely ignored my previous points (as no one has even tried to refute this), Wikipedia Guidelines specifically state that "When there is a well-known primary topic for an ambiguous term, name or phrase, much more used than any other topic covered in Wikipedia to which the same word(s) may also refer, then that term or phrase should either be used for the title of the article on that topic or redirect to that article. If the primary topic for a term is titled something else by the naming conventions, then a redirect for the term is used. Any article which has primary usage for its title and has other uses should have a disambiguation link at the top, and the disambiguation page should link back to the primary topic. Similarly, any article which has primary usage for a name that redirects to it and has other uses should have a "such-and-such redirects here" disambiguation link at the top, and the disambiguation page for that name should link back to the primary topic." According to Google the term is pretty much exclusively referring to the band, with only 2 results on the first page for the novel. Jerry teps (talk) 11:58, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know where that level of defensiveness has come from, but I hope it's not the result of anything I've done. To try and respond to your statement that only "one side" is participating in this discussion, I have notified several other people who had previously been involved in the discussion. To avoid violating CANVASS I kept the notification brief and extremely neutral and did not select people based on their previous opinions or on how they voted in the last move discussion. I have also left a note at the relevant wikiprojects. Hope it helps, but doing much more than that will really be pushing the CANVASS guideline.--Cúchullain t/ c 13:20, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Moving back to the discussion, I don't want to repeat myself, but "use in reliable sources favors the novel by a very wide margin." Personal web sites and and blogs are not reliable sources, and that's most of what turns up on a general Google search. News articles, such as the type that show up on Google News, aren't preferable either. And as I have pointed out, it depends on which google search you look at. Google Books, and especially Google Scholar, which are far better for the purposes of locating reliable sources (but by no means perfect), resoundingly return more hits relating to the novel than to the band. And that's if we're willing to overlook the shortcomings of the Google Test. We may also look for reliable sources the old fashion way: my university library currently has 48 works relating to "As I Lay Dying". One is an edition of the novel, and 3 or so do not discuss the novel as such, but only reference it in passing. The rest are all scholarly discussions of the book, notes to reading it, discussions of Faulkner and American and Southern literature, etc. And not a single one refers to the band. A JSTOR search is similarly telling: just from the journals my school has access to, there are at least 188 articles discussing "As I Lay Dying". Not all are references to the novel, or contain in-depth discussion of it, but a significant majority are, and none so much as mention the band.--Cúchullain t/ c 13:20, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I got radically different results from Google than you did, Jerry. The first page of my search for "As I Lay Dying" gave me 4 hits for the band (their official page, their Myspace page, their Wikipedia article, and a page on last.fm ), plus a link to their video results. The novel returned a comparable 4 results (its Wikipedia article, its Spark Notes, a page from Amazon.com, and a professor's page publishing commentary.) plus a link to the Google Books results. The second page returned 5-vs.-5 as well. Google News did return more hits for the band, but only for the last few months; searching for "all dates" returned far more hits for the novel and some independent uses (which are allusions to the novel). But when we get to the more relevant Google searches, Google Scholar and Google Books, they resoundingly favor the novel. To me it looks like some Google searches can make the title look like it could be ambiguous (though I don't see how they can be used to argue that the band is more prominent). But the more relevant searches show the novel to be "more used" in the type of sources required by V.--Cúchullain t/ c 13:12, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, your right, it is different. I'm at TAFE at the moment and the results are different, with 3 links referencing the novel. I'm not sure what's up with that. And I apologise if I came off as defensive. What I meant was that a true consensus cannot be made if only one side has decided to participate. The side that has not decided to participate most likely does not care about the matter, and are not worried about the resolution. While this is all fine and dandy, a true consensus that contains discussion from both sides and comes to a conclusion. Also I wouldn't expect the band to appear in many scholarly discussions. 1. They're a band. 2. Heavy metal is not exactly a scholarly genre. Also, I want to make this clear to everyone (not directed at you, just clearing this up for anyone reading this). I barely listen to this band, nor do I listen to the heavy metal genre (on occasions, there are a few "good" bands, but I find the majority of the bands not to my liking (I can listen to them, it's just not something that i'd go out and listen to)). Also, I currently do not wish for the page to redirect to the band at all. I just want to come to the correct conclusion which may or may not be the conclusion I am currently supporting. I also think that it should remain a disambiguation page, as many arguments will inevitably arrise in the future if either article is moved. Jerry teps (talk) 01:07, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, I just reread my first statement above. And it does seem very defensive. Again, I apologise. Also, to clear up my statement about. I meant those who support the band have chosen not to participate, so a correct conclusion based on debate cannot be made, and therefore, a consensus cannot be made, as only those with the same bias has chosen to participate. Jerry teps (talk) 01:12, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * ! Just noticed the section above. And I realise both sides have participated, I apologise sincerely and I really should of paid more attention. Jerry teps (talk) 01:18, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, yesterday, (or maybe the day before) wasn't the move template right here? not at the top, I thought this was a new discussion. Jerry teps (talk) 01:25, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, now I see, the time stamps state that they were discussing yesterday... Jerry teps (talk) 01:25, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, this is one of those "FAIL" moments. Jerry teps (talk) 01:25, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

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 * Support - As said above, the novel is clearly primary and of greater note. That's what matters. -R. fiend (talk) 21:10, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Anse's awareness of Addie's affair
The page now states that Anse was not aware of Addie's affair. But in recounting the history of her childbearing, Addie states twice that she had cut Anse off sexually before Jewel was born. Would Anse then not be aware that Jewel was not his son, even if the identity of the father was protected by Addie? AAT17 (talk) 23:37, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Addie never says that she cut Anse off sexually. She says things like "he was dead to me" but I take that to mean something more along the lines of her not loving him. Additionally, a lot of scholarly articles use those lines to describe Addie's mistrust of language and naming. P.gandal (talk) 05:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Literary techniques
The last paragraph of this section cites Adie's wish to be buried in Jefferson as one of her dying requests, but that is not accurate. She makes Anse promise to bury her with her kin in Jefferson after Darl was born. I have it in iBooks, so the best pagination I can give is: 238-239 of 405. I feel the entire last paragraph could use a rewrite. Davehennager (talk) 06:53, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

This section also contains a sentence starting "The story helped found the Southern Renaissance and directs a great deal of effort"... I don't understand. Maybe it meant to say "demands a great deal of effort" (or "attention")? It's hard to correct without knowing what the writer was trying to express. Terrycojones (talk) 13:21, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

"He did not change a word of it."
What is meant by "he did not change a word of it"? That he never revised it after publishing, that he didn't create more than one draft, or something else? Inverse Hypercube (talk) 05:00, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I took it to mean that he wrote it down on paper, the first time (i.e., his first draft). And that first draft was, in fact, the final draft (i.e., the published piece).  I have read elsewhere that he meticulously planned this book in his mind, before actually writing it down (i.e., typing it) on paper.  Thanks.  Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:22, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * And, in any event, that is a direct quote attributed to Faulkner himself. He stated that he "did not change a word of it" and, furthermore, that he "wrote it in six weeks".  Ultimately, both claims were found not to be true.  Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:10, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Plot summary
The current plot summary is copied word-for-word from the SparkNotes plot summary of this novel. I assume that this is not allowed? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:08, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

 * I just noticed that too. It looks like it was added on 30 August 2011 by 76.103.238.159. I've restored the section to an earlier version that's rather short and incomplete, but I haven't read the novel so cannot expand it. Jfmantis (talk) 04:00, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Seventh novel?
The intro states that AILD is Faulkner's 7th novel, but his bibliography show it as fifth. Which is it? It seems to me it should read fifth, but I don't want to step on an editors toes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.191.217.208 (talk) 14:35, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

"most objective character"
I'm removing the claim that Darl is the most objective character in the book. The claim is at best problematic, and there are a great many critical studies that warn against too closely aligning Darl with any sort of objective reality or authorial voice (not to mention Faulkner's own claims that he is insane from the get go). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.218.13.42 (talk) 17:54, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 17 April 2015

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The result of the move request was: pages moved. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 18:03, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

– Today three different editors,, , and , expressed a wish to see a new RM for this. The argument is that the novel remains the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of this name in terms of long-term significance, as it has for over 80 years. That point hard to argue with; the novel has been widely regarded as one of the most significant works in English literature for decades. Additionally, the page view statistics have changed dramatically since the last RM six years ago: today, the novel receives more views than the band, receiving 51,637 views compared to 49,398 for As I Lay Dying (band). The novel also trumps the band by wide margins in the sources: Google News returns 5130 hits for "As I Lay Dying" Faulkner versus 2540 for "As I Lay Dying" band. Google Books returns an overwhelming ratio of 65,100 to 2660, and Google Scholar returns 4060 for the novel and few if any for the band. Cúchullain t/ c 19:46, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * As I Lay Dying (novel) → As I Lay Dying
 * As I Lay Dying → As I Lay Dying (disambiguation)
 * Support moves. WP:PTOPIC says "A topic is primary for a term, with respect to long-term significance, if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term." One hundred years from now, nobody will remember the band (named after the novel), but Faulkner's novel will still be regarded as one of the great works in 20th century American literature. The value of current traffic figures is often overestimated in primary topic discussions, even though the guideline specifically cautions against such use. There is little argument that all of the items on the da page are directly related to the use of the title As I Lay Dying by the novel's author. Clearly meets primary topic, IMHO. BusterD (talk) 20:01, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Support this common sense move. Cúchullain, thank you for setting this up so carefully and inclusively. I hadn't gotten farther than the Google Books search, which of course delivered a similar result, predictably, as yours. Our phrase has 1242 hits in JSTOR, and I looked at the first 100 hits (God knows why): it's Faulkner 100, everything else 0. I know that scholarliness is less important in Wikipedia than page views or tweets, but it's something. Drmies (talk) 22:23, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. This one seems easy. Calidum T|C 00:18, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Support - This should be a no-brainer. The novel is clearly the primary topic of this title -- not the relatively unknown band, nor the television episode title, both of which are clearly derivative of the title of Faulkner's novel.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 00:41, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose, Even if there was no relatively significant other topic as As I Lay Dying (band) which has longer content than As I Lay Dying (novel). I would say that this is a relatively pointless move.  Why not leave the clarification that the subject described is a novel?
 * As I Lay Dying (novel) gets ~700 visits per day while As I Lay Dying (band) gets ~600 visits per day and As I Lay Dying (film) gets ~180 hits per day. As I Lay Dying (The Vampire Diaries) gets a lesser ~30 visits per day.  An image search on "As I Lay Dying", for instance, doesn't show book covers.
 * Unless the band became stratospherically huge I would oppose it having primary in the same way that I don't think that Jupiter should be considered primary. However, in this case the disparity in notability is not huge. GregKaye 08:40, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

 * Oppose few people can read these days, putting (novel) helps those using mobiles to navigate. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:20, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I generally try to put the interests of the reader first, but I suppose those who cannot read have interests as well. Man from Nephew (talk) 23:00, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Support as the novel is clearly the primary topic. Cavarrone 17:09, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Support Besides the stats mentioned by Cúchullain in the proposal above, the novel by this name is classic work of literature, while according to their article, the band has gone on "indefinite hiatus" due to the incarceration of the founder / lead singer, meaning that the stats will continue to tilt further in favor of the novel for the foreseeable future. Just like the band's name, the other possible wikilinks are all derivative of the novel's title. Making the suggested moves is a pretty easy call, imo. Zeng8r (talk) 19:47, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Support for reasons stated in main post. Icarus of old (talk) 21:03, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Support, per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The Franco film gets 4642 views in the last 30 days. The film is based on the novel, not the band. The band is also named after the novel, not that music fans would necessarily be aware of that. Man from Nephew (talk) 23:00, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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Characters...
Hello, sorry I'm french, and I speak english very bad... (pléonasme ?! ahah !) but it is writing "Faulkner presents 15 different points of view, each chapter narrated by one character, including Addie", and in the list of the characters, they are 16 (and in the book also !) Perhaps I did not understand the "including", for Addie ? Thanks ! --84.6.210.151 (talk) 22:05, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

 * One character narrates two chapters.--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 03:56, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

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Marris translation?
The lede currently states that the title is based on the 1925 translation by William Sinclair Marris, which it quotes as reading "As I lay dying, the woman with the dog's eyes would not close my eyes as I descended into Hades." However, the Marris translation (link displays relevant page spread) does not appear to include this quote – in fact, it's written in a completely different meter. What translation does "As I lay dying" really come from? Do we have a source? — ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 06:32, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

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Spelling
Shouldn't this category spell the word "program," the American way, instead of "programme," the British way? MakeRocketGoNow 04:18, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, there is no compelling reason to change this; this is an English Wikipedia, not an American Wikipedia (spoken from the perspective of an American with English work colleagues). Courtland 12:49, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * I think this ought to use "program" because the topic of this category is specific to US, and that's the usage in the US. Which is what Manual of Style says regarding articles. --Mairi 20:56, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
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Born 1st April, 1982 in Hong Kong. Full name is Benjamin Howard Lee. Having been passed on the Teacher's Occupational disease from my mother, pointing out the typos and mistakes from passages is an irresistible symptom. However, always failed to correct all the "all too commonly seen" errors in my own passages. Also have a little symptom of Cleanliness Compulsion.

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Also interested in making models and any ACG related things.

Producing
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Will write some stories and draw pictures whenever free. Have grouped with friends to form Team Reverie that works on Project Fabula. Know how to create web sites and have created the site for Fantastical Finality and Show Me Anime of UMR.

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 * 2) Part of the Deletionists community raising the par much higher than what the policies claims, instead of  verifiable third party authoritive sources, they keep asking for sources with totally no relationship with the article and instead of notability, they ask for cultural significance to an unrealistic point like it does not affect the language so it is not notable.
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 * may need more work, just scanning through articles for now.
 * RX-78 Gundam
 * MSZ-006 Zeta Plus and MSZ-006 Zeta Gundam merged to Z Gundam
 * MSZ-010 Double Zeta Gundam renamed to ZZ Gundam
 * MS-06 Zaku II possible rename to Zaku
 * and include the MS-05 Zaku, later, after the bad faith AfD nom, I will move it.
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