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The Vikings (reenactment group)

The Vikings (previously the Norse Film and Pageant Society) are a British-based society of historical re-enactors, dedicated to the study and re-enactment of the culture of the Viking Age (790–1066) and the display of authentic Dark Ages living history and combat.

Origins
The group was founded by Peter Seymour and Alan Jeffery in 1971 as the Norse Film and Pageant Society (NFPS), initially as an extension to their 'Central Focus' WWII film club, with the purpose of bringing an awareness of the Norse Myths and the Viking culture to the public through dramatic entertainment. Originally, the society consisted of some thirty core members, including the 'Odin Guard', an elite combat group maintaining Norse Heathen religious practices and values. The Odin Guard left the society during the leadership of Gerry East, whose recruitment tactics eventually took the membership over three hundred.

The Vikings are the oldest and largest Dark Ages society in the United Kingdom, and are a founding member of the National Association of Re-enactment Societies. The Society now has over 1100 members throughout Britain, Europe and North America. While the Society concentrates mainly on the 10th Century, events are often set in the wider period from 790 to 1066, with the appropriate modifications to dress and equipment used.

Despite the name of the Society, the groups within it portray Saxon, Norman, Celtic, and Viking cultures.

Objectives
The Vikings' goal is to provide an accurate and educational portrayal of the Viking period, with equal emphasis on the daily life of the period and on the more warlike aspects of life in what was a formative period in European history. Events staged by The Vikings aim for a high standard of presentation, historical accuracy and attention to detail. For combat displays, which combine public entertainment with a historical background, the battle organisers strive to recreate an event local to the area. Aside from the combat, at each event there are extensive living history displays which present a cross-section of life in the tenth century.

Local groups
The Vikings has local groups in the UK, mainland Europe and Northern America, each group usually numbers between 5 and 50 members depending on the region. The groups are each led by a Sturaesman (or -woman) or Jarl, who deals with the administrative and organisational aspects, and when at large events each will usually fight as one unit.

Educational visits
Aside from the main events, in many regions of the UK the society offers school visits by experienced and knowledgeable personnel in full period dress and equipment. These visits include a variety of activities based around the UK National Curriculum framework of Key Stage Two's “Invaders and Settlers” topic.

The Society also provides resources for schools, including a teacher's resource book for KS2. In some cases, clothing and equipment can be loaned to schools for short periods to assist in classroom work.

All visitors hold either a CRB disclosure to a minimum of standard level, or one from Disclosure Scotland.

Membership
Full membership of The Vikings is open to anyone over the age of 18. In the UK, children aged 16 and 17 are allowed to train and participate in the combat displays when accompanied by an adult. Due to safety regulations, children under 16 years old may not take part in combat displays, although correctly dressed and equipped 13-15 year olds are used as battlefield runners and/or waterbearers.

Battle of Hastings reenactments
Since 1995, The Vikings have been the primary organiser for the combat and living history portions of the Battle of Hastings reenactment events.

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Horizon Pictures

Horizon Pictures (GB) Ltd was a film production company founded in the United Kingdom by the Austrian-born American film producer Sam Spiegel and John Huston in 1947. The company produced The African Queen, starring Humphrey Bogart and Katharine Hepburn, in 1951, after which Huston left the company.

It later produced the David Lean films The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) and Lawrence of Arabia (1962), both of which won the Academy Award for Best Picture.

Other productions included The Night of the Generals (1967), The Swimmer (1968) and Nicholas and Alexandra (1971).

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I take it this individual doesn't like this road much... - Lucky 6.9 23:33, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

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I moved the page to its official name but the common name redirects here. Also the statement "(officially Ernest W. Barrett Parkway, though nobody uses the full name)" was removed because it is POV. --Jerm (Talk/ Contrib) 01:51, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

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Cremorne Point

Cremorne Point is a harbourside suburb on the Lower North Shore of Sydney, New South Wales, Australia located six kilometres north of the Sydney central business district, in the local government area of North Sydney Council.

Cremorne Point shares the postcode of 2090 with Cremorne, a separate suburb to the north. Cremorne Point sits on Sydney Harbour between Shell Cove and Mosman Bay.

Etymology
Cremorne Point was named after the Cremorne Gardens in London, a popular pleasure ground in England, which derives from Gaelic words meaning 'boundary' and 'chieftain'. Robertsons Point was named after James Robertson who was granted 35 hectares there in 1820. He was the father of Premier Sir John Robertson.

History
Wooloorigang / Cremorne Point and Mosman Bay were both once Cammeraygal territory named Wul-warra-Jeung before European settlement in Sydney Cove to their south. Aborigines called the waters east of the point Goram-Bullagong. In early European settlement after 1788, it became known as Careening Point and Mosman Cove became known as Hungry Bay. Careening Point commemorates HMS Sirius, a ship from the First Fleet of 1788, which was refurbished, pushed upstream in Mosman Bay.

Nineteenth century
In January 1822 Scot James Robertson, a watch maker, arrived on the Providence with wife and six children to become Supervisor of Governor Brisbane's astronomical instruments and clocks at his observatory in the Parramatta Domain. Brisbane was named "founder" of Australian science by Sir William Herschel, himself a noted astronomer and botanist who spent some time in South Africa. Robertson was granted a large amount of land on the Upper Hunter River and later in 1823 a further 86 acre of Cremorne headland, where he built a Georgian house with fine cedar joinery. In its grounds were some fine pear trees. One of his sons became Sir John Robertson, NSW's fifth Premier – and premier five times.

James Milson Jnr (1814–1903), son of James Milson who had owned much land in nearby Milsons Point, was a merchant and a pastoralist in NSW and Queensland. He expanded the family's land holdings in the lower North Shore, including the 1853 purchase of the Cremorne peninsula. The sale of this land for residential blocks in the last years of the 19th and early years of the 20th centuries proved to be especially profitable. Much to Milson's disgust, the courts prevented him from selling building blocks running right to the water's edge and Cremorne is consequently one of the few Sydney Harbour peninsulas with a public, waterfront park running around its edges. The last of the family's holdings in the lower North Shore area were resumed in the early 1920s for the construction of the Harbour Bridge and associated roadways.

The Rev. W. B. Clarke identified a coal seam running under much of Sydney and proposed it be mined. An experimental copper smelting industry was established in the mid-1840s on the eastern shore but was not successful and was removed by 1849.

In 1853 North Shore pioneer James Milson bought the land – Robertson's house became the Cremorne Hotel, later Cremorne House – and three years later leased 22 acre to J. R. Clarke and Charles H. Woolcott, who planned Cremorne Gardens, named for the rather notorious Regency Pleasure Gardens in London. These opened in 1856 with 30 acre and amusements galore. Steamers plied from Circular Quay and Woolloomooloo Bay every half hour until late. There were scenic walks – the Serpentine Walk and Italian Walk. Papers advertised "a monster dancing stage, 200 in in circumference', an "excellent (German) band, carousel, archery, quoits, rifle shooting, skittles, gymnastics, rifle gallery and refreshments" at Sydney prices. Even a masked ball. At 8pm, magnificent fireworks, a la Vauxhall Pleasure Gardens (London) and splendid pyrotechny as in Cremorne Gardens, London. The Sydney Morning Herald declared Cremorne to "be ranked among the best of those places of holiday resort of a superior order which have recently sprung into existence in the neighbourhood of Sydney". Anyone missing the last boat was compelled to remain behind overnight, as the bush was too thick to penetrate and few cared to swim back. By 1862 the place had an unsavoury reputation and the "Gardens" were in ruins.

Around 1875 a white cask was moored just off Cremorne Point and used for target practice from Mrs Macquarie's Chair. Balls from the 68 lb cannon would skim across the harbour ending up near Whiting Beach, near Taronga Zoo. The barrage would stop for the hourly steam ferry. In the 1880s and 1890s Cremorne Point was a more genteel Victorian Sunday destination.

In 1891 and 1893 Sydney Harbour Collieries sank exploratory bores and discovered coal ten feet thick. Despite support from the Mines Department, the Lands Department refused permission to build coal wharves and the company found an alternative base in Balmain.

Twentieth century
In 1905 a Harbour Foreshores Vigilance Committee formed and Cremorne Reserve was proclaimed later that year, with North Sydney Council as trustee. This was the culmination of a ten-year campaign to secure the area as public land. It reflected other campaigns for harbour foreshore reserves and conservation of that time. Magnificent harbour and city views were and remain available from here.

The McCallum Pool west of Cremorne Point was built in the 1920s as a pool for residents. As the threat of industrialisation subsided, others arose. Subdivision of the peninsula followed land reservation. By 1925 residential development encroached. While private gardens flourished, weeds and rubbish choked the foreshore reserve. Reports that "respectable people" didn't go there at night suggest it was sheltering the homeless or carousing couples after dark. North Sydney Council started a beautification campaign in the 1920s with local residents helping, transforming it by the 1930s. Several elements of that era survive – a concrete and chicken wire sign, archway etc. Then, perhaps due to the 1930s depression and World War II, it sank into neglect again.

The area attracted various architects including J. Burcham Clamp: his house The Laurels (1907, extended 1920) is a striking Arts & Crafts example. A 1927 issue of The Home magazine featured an Italian (Mediterranean revival) example – a house belonging to Mr F. C. Lane.

Cremorne Point is particularly well-known for the quality of its Arts and Crafts residential architecture.

Transport
Initially, access across the harbour was largely by being rowed by a privately hired watermen. Cremorne Point was included as a stop by privately operated ferry services to Mosman in the 1850s, however, these were discontinued due to lack of local residents. Old Cremorne Wharf on the east side of the point was included in regular services to Mosman and Neutral Bay that recommenced in 1872. Sydney Ferries Limited built a new wharf at Robertson Point in 1911 and added ferry services from Circular Quay on 18 December 1911 to meet a new tram service that also commenced that year. The Edwardian style wharf building burnt down in 1975. The pontoon partially sunk in storms on 9 June 2007 and was operational again on 15 September 2007.

The foreshore path from Neutral Bay to Cremorne Point wharf dates to 1830 when the reserve was retained by the Crown. Cremorne Point Reserve is the most substantial example in North Sydney of imposition of the 100 ft (Harbour Foreshore) Reservation, applied from 1828.

Demographics
According to the 2016 census, there were 2,409 residents in Cremorne Point.
 * 58.9% of people were born in Australia. The next most common country of birth was England at 8.6%. 79.8% of people spoke only English at home.
 * The residents were somewhat older than the norm for Australia; their median age was 43 years, compared to the national median of 38 years. Children aged under 15 years made up 13.8% of the population (national average is 18.7%) and people aged 65 years and over made up 19.2% of the population (national average is 15.8%).
 * The median household weekly income in Cremorne Point was $2,506, a little less than double the national median of $1,438.
 * The great majority (78.2%) of the occupied private dwellings in Cremorne Point were flats, units or apartments. This is significantly higher than the national average of 13.1% for these dwelling types.
 * The most common responses for religion were No Religion 36.4%, Catholic 21.7% and Anglican 16.9%.

Transport
Cremorne Point has two ferry wharves, both of which are part of the Mosman Bay route. Cremorne Point ferry wharf is located on the peninsula's south-west, and Old Cremorne Wharf is located in Mosman Bay on the east of the point.

Keolis Downer Northern Beaches bus route 225 connects Cremorne and Neutral Bay wharves running via Neutral Bay Junction runs along Milson Road, the main artery of Cremorne Point.

At the 2016 Census, 33.8% of employed people travelled to work on public transport and 46.2% by car (either as driver or as passenger).

Activities
The Sydney Amateur Sailing Club is located on the eastern side of the Point.

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If your readers wish to expand their knowledge of portadown in pictorial form they could do no better than click on this web-site:

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Mary Peters
Why is Mary Peters mentioned here? In her Wiki page it states she's from Liverpool and later moved to another town in Northern Ireland. May list the Portadown connection?

To answer your question:

Although Mary Peters was not from Portadown she was a pupil at Portadown College. You will see her listed in the alumni section of the school's web site. I'm a past pupil of that school myself and remember her photograph on display in the main foyer of the school.

People
For a person to be listed, they must be notable (see WP:Notable). Normally that means that there is an article about them. I have commented ouit those who have red links. If citations or articles can be provided they can be made visible again. --Red King (talk) 19:46, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm - I hate to say it but there are many, many, many thousands of notable people who don't have wikipedia articles on them. I don't think that's a very good guide to be honest.The Thunderer (talk) 11:12, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Spelling corrections
It's wonderful to go back when someone has editied your own copy and see how pathetic your own spelling has become. *sigh*. Not only that but the use of a "Grocer's Apostrophe" - I am so ashamed. Thank you Rjwilmsi. The Thunderer (talk) 11:12, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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Good Article drive
Lurgan has now been awarded Good Article status. Myself and a few others now plan to get this article up to the same standard. If you want to help out, please see WP:UKCITIES for the relevant guidelines. There's a fair bit of information already on this page, I think most of the work will involve reformatting what is here, particularly the citations. See the formatting of citations at the Lurgan page to see how it's done. --Eamonnca1 (talk) 18:34, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't doubt the notability of McConville's Pub but we could use a citation for it. The link that was there before has gone dead. Anyone...? --Eamonnca1 (talk) 22:34, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we're just about there. Will we go ahead and nominate it for GA or do a few more days of editing first? --Eamonnca1 (talk) 20:26, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The article is definitely much better than it was a few days ago... but I think it's too soon to nominate. There's a few things I plan to add and a few things I plan to change. I don't think it has enough sources yet either.
 * ~Asarlaí 20:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It has almost as many sources as the Lurgan page, but my main problem is that a lot of them are not third party sources and the formatting is not consistent. I was going to change the formatting but I think a lot of these sources are gonna have to be replaced anyway so I held off. Maybe there'd be some merit in moving them to an External Links section? --Eamonnca1 (talk) 21:04, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Street nicknames
I could see this section being a problem when it comes to GA review. Is it possible to get citations for this? --Eamonnca1 (talk) 20:58, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

"Long running" dispute
Since trouble surrounding parades has been going on since the day the orange order was born, and that the latest episode in it has not been resolved since it blew up in the 1990s, the statement that the Drumcree conflict is a "long running" dispute is entirely appropriate. --Eamonnca1 (talk) 21:40, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There was no dispute at Drumcree that I recall before the 1990s. You'll need to find a source to back up the claim. Mooretwin (talk) 21:42, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Please read Drumcree conflict. There has been violence directly related to Orange parades in the area since the Orange Order was formed, and violence directly related to the Drumcree parade since the early 19th century. The main article only mentions this early violence briefly, so you may want to have a read through this for the nitty-gritty. ~Asarlaí 22:26, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. Citation added. --Eamonnca1 (talk) 23:33, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * So long as there's a source. Mooretwin (talk) 07:18, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, there's no page number with the citation - could somebody post what precisely the source says so that we can determine whether it supports the statement that the Drumcree conflict is a long-running dispute over parading that began in the early 1800s? Even the Drumcree conflict article, which is biased in favour of the nationalist perspective, doesn't seem to support the claim. It doesn't mention any dispute, but only "violence" "during" the parade in various years between 1873 and 1917. The first mention that the parade was disputed is 1986 (and then the dispute appeared to relate to Obins Street), with the actual "Drumcree conflict" referred to in this article, beginning in 1995. Mooretwin (talk) 07:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback, page numbers added. If you really want the readers of the article to be in no doubt, I could actually embed the following quote from Lord Gosford in 1795:
 * "Resolved, that it appears to this meeting, that the County of Armagh is at this moment in a state of uncommon disorder, that the Roman Catholic inhabitants are grievously oppressed by lawless persons unknown, who attack and plunder their houses by night and threaten them with instant destruction, unless they abandon immediately their lands and habitations"
 * "It is no secret, that a persecution, accompanied with all the circumstances of ferocious cruelty, which have in all ages distinguished that calamity is now raging in this County. Neither age nor sex, nor even acknowledged innocence, as to any guilt in the late disturbances, is sufficient to excite mercy or afford protection. The only crime, which the wretched objects of this ruthless persecution are charged with, is a crime indeed of easy proof: It is simply a profession of the Roman Catholic faith, or an intimate connection with a person professing that faith. A lawless banditry have constituted themselves judges of this new species of delinquency, and the sentence they have denounced is equally concise and terrible!  It is nothing less than a confiscation of all property, and an immediate banishment."
 * Would you like me to include this quote? (Psst! Lord Gosford was not a Shinner.) --Eamonnca1 (talk) 17:55, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

The research paper referred to be Asarlaí does not contain the actual dates of the newspapers that I gathered information from. However, I can and will supply those dates - when I get time to rewrite 'Two Hundred Years in the Citadel'. Meantime, if anyone can access British parliamentary papers they will find ample evidence of the Drumcree dispute back as far as the 1830's and in 1905 - when the MP for West Belfast MP for Joe Devlin pointed out that Orangemen could take an alternative rout to Drumcree Church and called on the government to prohibit Orange marches through 'the Catholic quarter' - meaing Obins Street. Obins Street was the main Nationalist/Catholic district - on the edge of Portadown and literally 'on the other side of the tracks' - separated from the town by the Belfast-Dublin and the Portadown-Dungannon railway lines. Thought there were always two alternative routes to Drumcree, the Orange insisted on passing through Obins Street - that's what the 'dispute' was about (Imagine Neo-facists marching through Bronx or Brixton etc). It was never about the Orange marching to or assembling at Drumcree Church. And the dispute took many forms - from petitions to local Majistrates in the early 1800s and police intervention (1807), petitions to Parliament, riots, fist-fights, taunting, locals deliberately crossing the road during Orange marces etc. The events detailed in my blog article only skim the surface. The local newspapers were Orange supporters - so Nationalists had no 'verifiable' records - only folklore and a few songs. So to say there is no record of a 'long running dispute' is not correct. It may not have been called a 'dsipute', but that doesnt mean it wasn't one.Maolcholann (talk) 09:53, 22 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.107.215.63 (talk) 09:48, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The records to which you refer would indicate that there has been a dispute over Obins Street since the early 19th century. The text, however, refers to "the Drumcree conflict" a long-running dispute. The Drumcree confict, which erupted in the 1990s, is over the Garvaghy Road, not Obins Street. Mooretwin (talk) 12:33, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * And it's now 2010, hence a long running dispute. --Eamonnca1 (talk) 17:42, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The text implies that there has been a conflict over the Drumcree parade since the early nineteenth century, not since 1995. I've no issue with "long-running" if the reference to the early 1800s goes. Mooretwin (talk) 22:49, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've modified the text to say that it's the 'latest part' of a long running dispute.... --Eamonnca1 (talk) 23:33, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That's better. Mooretwin (talk) 23:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

"Portadoun"
Are you serious? --Eamonnca1 (talk) 17:36, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Not a single mention of sectarianism
I've rechecked and this article is headlined Portadown. More than any place in western Europe this town is synonymous with sectarianism. To omit any references to it is more a case of not mentioning the elephant in the room. Also, when little villages across NI can tell us the religious breakdown, are we seriously meant to believe that there is no breakdown for religious or voting patterns in this town of 22,000 people? I'm all for the local leaders trying to move away from Portadown's extraordinarily ugly past, but this article strikes me as being more a case of keeping one's head in the sand. 109.78.241.27 (talk) 14:54, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It is mentioned. Portadown --  Eamonnca1  TALK 20:58, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

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Split?
These pages need to be broken up. The Nighthawk characters mentioned here have no relation to each other. The Squadron Supreme Nighthawk Character is not related to the Earth 616 Nighthawk.
 * Putting aside the fact that there are numerous similarities between the various Nighthawks, it's fairly standard to have a central page for the various incarnations of a character, such as the Flash or Green Lantern. If you want to create or help create separate pages for each one with more in depth, specific information, by all means go for it, but the information on this page should stay where it is. Pitr 06:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Whiteface
A character profile wiki doesn't need information about specific adventures or miniseries. Keep the Whiteface info on the wikis for the character and the Nighthawk miniseries. Thanks.

Merge Supreme Power: Nighthawk (Marvel Comics)
The article Supreme Power: Nighthawk (Marvel Comics) should be merged into Nighthawk (Marvel Comics). The article was created by User:Brown Shoes22, known for creating articles left and right with bad grammar and spelling and adding useless bits of trivia and leaving other to clean up after him. Also, the article is badly named, the mini-series synopsis can be told in a single paragraph, and moved to the main Nighthawk article in the Supreme Power section. --Pc13 10:30, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree that the miniseries shouldn't have its own page, but the main Nighthawk page is huge already. Also, the profiles for the other Nighthawks have some plot summaries, but they seem to be crucial moments in their histories, which the Supreme Power miniseries isn't really.  If anything, I think that maybe Nighthawk IV should be given his own page, and the miniseries page can be merged into that.  I've seen it on other wikis for superheroes with many incarnations, like the Flash or Green Lantern. Pitr 19:54, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Oh oh... here is Brown Shoes22's comment (found at the discussion page for the miniseries): "No this is a mini-series and more info will be added". That's the problem, he's always adding more and more...  I agree with Pitr, merge AFTER Nighthawk IV gets his own page. Dyslexic agnostic 08:30, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I'll start working on a separate page for Nighthawk IV this week after I re-read my issues of Supreme Power. If anyone else wants to get it started, I'd be happy to add on to what they write. Pitr 09:29, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Repeating what I said in Talk:Hyperion (comics), I agree, both Supreme Power versions of Nighthawk and Hypertion could be spun into their own articles: Hyperion (Supreme Power) and Nighthawk (Supreme Power). --Pc13 11:50, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Hyperion Yes you can make a Hyperion (Supreme Power). But thair isn't eougth info on the Supreme Power Nighthawk to make a Article, The article Supreme Power: Nighthawk (Marvel Comics) should be merged into Nighthawk (Marvel Comics).--Brown Shoes22 16:23, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

 * There really is plenty of information on the Supreme Power version of Nighthawk to have his own page; it might not be a huge page, but he's been in comics for a couple years, I'm sure he can fill his own page. The miniseries should definitely not be merged into the main Nighthawk page. Pitr 18:46, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Publication history and formatting
I've added a "Pub hist" section as the exemplar requires. It's a start, and more should be added.

The rest of the Comics Project generally treats the mainstream-continuity version of a character as the main version, and places alternate-universe versions and alternate-imprint versions (such as Marvel MAX) under "Alternate versions". --Tenebrae 17:52, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Merge
Given the relative sizes of this article and Nighthawk (Supreme Power) and the structure of this article, it makes a degree of sense to merge the two into on article.

To be clear, I am not suggesting the newer team be brought over in an "Alternate version" section, but as a full part of the article.

Any other thoughts? - J Greb 20:24, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

 * First of all, I really like the sidebar idea. When it comes to the various Squadrons, some kind of generic scorecard is definately needed. As to a merge, it would work now, but as little as a year from now Nighthawk may have been written into so much that logging it blows out the article length. I'm actually in favour of separation, but would like to hear from others.

Asgardian 01:25, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I vote Merge, Nighthawk is a fairly minor character. I don't believe this page would or grow to the extremes of major characters. If it ever does we can cross that bridge when it happens. We shouldn't be predicting the future with Wikipedia pages. 69.182.78.104 06:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

 * no merge I in contrast feel Nighthawk is not a minor character; in addition, I feel this character has been presented in several different publications, and has been presented distinctivly in the incarnations.  Both with an established character history in separate publications should not be merged.  66.109.248.114 20:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

After 2 mths, discussion closed with no consensus.66.109.248.114 21:48, 20 August 2007 (UTC) Please see discussion regarding(Merging Alternate Versions of Characters) -- [[

Use of jargon
Before going so far as to call for an RfC, could editors please comment on the use of "Earth-31916" and other non-general-reader jargon in the disambig line at the top of the article and elsewhere. Per discussion at Talk:Whizzer and general Wiki guidelines, such terms are generally to be held at a minimum.

I know Asgardian advocates using these numbers, and clearly, I don't except in a limited way as necessary. So could we hear other editors' opinions besides ours? Thanks -- Tenebrae 13:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Whizzer article
I think it would be helpful, for the sake of consistency and to avoid redundant discussion, to use the much-hammered-out Whizzer article as a template for writing about Squadron Supreme/Sinister/etc. characters, which because of their convoluted history, iterations and permutations in mainstream and alternate continuities make them particularly difficult to render in a way accessible and clear to the general-audience reader at which Wikipedia is aimed.

And doing so does make a difference. Here's an article about Sheena, Queen of the Jungle, written for the Scripps-Howard newspaper syndicate, that is one of the very few comics-related pieces I've ever seen in the mainstream press with completely accurate details about a lesser-known character's publication history, creators, etc. — and it uses whole phrases from the Wiki article Sheena, Queen of the Jungle.

It shows that we're having an impact on scholarship, pop-cultural thought it may be. --Tenebrae 16:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

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Images
Just some comments/points:

 * 1) The current SHB image, Image:NighthawkRichmond1.jpg, has a major problem — it's a direct lift from Marvel's on-line character encyclopedia. That's something we're not supposed to be raiding for images and this image will wind up going.
 * 2) The first bold replacement, Image:D-102.jpg, has issues as well — the character can be considered a bit on the contorted side, and the image is watermarked by a 3rd party site.
 * 3) The second bold replacement, Image:Lstdfndrs001.jpg, is a good image of the character, but... the captioning that was put in place on the article is jargony and misleading. Also, we should be trying to avoid the use of art for yet-to-be-published books for the SHB.
 * 4) Both bold replacements have a technical problem with the file names in that they cryptic to the point of obscurity.
 * 5) The spot image, Image:NighthawkRichmond712.jpg, has the exact same problem that the current SHB has — copped from another encyclopedia. Again, the image will wind up going, but it should have a replacement inserted.

- J Greb (talk) 16:57, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks, J. The first image's summary didn't make it clear it was a copyvio lift; I only saw a clear and uncluttered image. In any case, after the Arbitration, Asgardian should be discussing before reverting. I'll look for a clear cover image. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:03, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

 * No, it didn't. That's one of the major problems with editors going to the "just the image" page on most sites, no back links to show where it was from. I actually had to backstep the URL to find out where this was on the Marvel page. And then poke around to realize that it's the online OHOTMU. - J Greb (talk) 17:16, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

 * You're a trouper, and I've learned from that just now.
 * Here's a panel that's pretty clear, on which I could Photoshop out a couple of things: http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/nighthawkrichmond1.jpg --Tenebrae (talk) 17:19, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * And here's his introductory panel: http://www12.nrk.no/magasin/upunkt/urort/bilder/scaled/132276_main.jpg --Tenebrae (talk) 17:25, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * And this might actually be best: It shows three Nighthawk costumes, and it's the historically significant first issue of a Nighthawk solo title: http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=289531&zoom=4 --Tenebrae (talk) 17:32, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Of the three, the first would be the best fit since it the "iconic" look the character keeps defaulting to, just crop the horizontal size, scale it to 300px by 72ppi. The second is the little know original costume, and more of a "Squadron Sinister" shot. And the third... it's just overly cluttered. - J Greb (talk) 18:31, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Actually, the WP:CMC copyright page does not currently say that we cannot take images from Marvel's online Wiki, just the OHOTMU. Since their online Wiki is free, it is not possible for us to undercut their sales, which is the stated reasoning for not allowing the use of OHOTMU images. This is not to say that I think we should use the same images that they do, but I think it is permissible. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 17:31, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

 * That falls to a question of where the images on "Marvel Universe: the Official Marvel Wiki" are coming from. If it's a case of Marvel recycling panels and covers from the comics, then no problem, though I think it would be best that we have where the image was originally published nailed down. If they're drawing from with the paper OHOTMU or card sets, or commissioning art specifically for their wiki, we should be steering clear of it. Since the MUOMW doesn't cover that info, I'd rather err on the side of caution and not use it as the listed source for the images. - J Greb (talk) 18:31, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

 * You didn't play your cards very well on this one, T. You should have known that the MU site images are questionable at best (after all, OHOTMU images are quickly quashed) and that there are better images available. The least of which is the Defenders cover I found, but it is still better than the MU image as you get a full, unobstructed body shot. The pick by Moshikal is better still and Photoshop can clear that up. As for the shot of the three different incarnations of the Earth-616 Nighthawk, that was the image in the SHB before you changed it. I suggest we go with that one. As for the Earth-616 tagline, it is just an extension of what's already in the SHB.

PS - Running to the Arbitrators because you may not get your way is a tad small. The reason I put in the Edit Summary holds, and JGreb supports this (possibly with a slight tweak). Take it to the Talk Page first.

Asgardian (talk) 21:31, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Asgardian, play fair. Tenebrae did not have a hand in the 3-in-1 getting removed nor the initial adding of the current images. As per this page, the article history, and the current and former images' pages:
 * BetacommandBot tagged the 3-in-1 as non-FURed on November 6 (Amazingly the talk section above this one).
 * Maxim deleted that image on November 14, citing WP:CSD.
 * ImageRemovalBot cleaned up here the same day.
 * Redhead911 uploaded the current image on November 22, and placed it here the same day.
 * Tenebrae's association with the current image are, as per his edit summaries, trying to keep the 'box in line with the project guides.
 * As far as my support for a particular image goes... Even with GG's comments about the official Marvel wiki, I have serious reservations about pulling images from there. If someone could or would speak up and say "That image is cut out from issue # of That Comic." I'd support keeping it since its FUR could be updated to clearly show the original published source and it fulfills the 'box image requirements. Without that though, I'm leery of using images from that site since we're either copping from an encyclopedia (free access or not) or citing a wiki as a source.
 * And without the current image, I'm partial to the Nighthawk/Valkyrie panel Tenebrae found over the promotional image. It's iconic of the character's look, both for costume and in action, and it covers the 'box guides. The promo seems to missing a few beats there. - J Greb (talk) 22:06, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I never said T had a hand in the image removal, but I can't see why the MU image should be plugged over legitimate covers. The panel shot is also fine. Just got to be consistent - no point in any of us culling OHOTMU images and the like if such images are retained here.
 * Asgardian (talk) 22:17, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Asgardian,
 * To quote your previous post:

As for the shot of the three different incarnations of the Earth-616 Nighthawk, that was the image in the SHB before you changed it.
 * You opened that paragraph of your post directing your comments to Tenebrae. Using "you" in that sentence makes it an accusation that Tenebrae was responsible for the removal of the 3-in-1 cover. Whether you intended it or not, you, Asgardian, made that false accusation. - J Greb (talk) 00:45, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

 * "You didn't play your cards very well on this one, T"?
 * I have to ask Asgardian respectfully, after all we've been through, to please not exacerbate things with accusatory, non-good-faith comments like that. Making this personal does not none of us any good.--Tenebrae (talk) 00:27, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes, but show me some good faith and talk to me, rather than going to an arbitrator. Moshikal's choice is still better than the current example.

Asgardian (talk) 01:49, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Here's a cropped, low-res version of the first image, as per J's comments. Image:Nighthawk KyleRichmond.jpg.
 * I tried to use Photoshop's magnetic lasso, and got a clear outline of just the character with no background, but couldn't seem to move it to a clean layer. Someone better than I at Photoshop might want to download this or the uncropped version and give it a try. --Tenebrae (talk)

 * If someone can cull the word balloons, that should do nicely. Good effort.

Asgardian (talk) 01:49, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Have since added T's pick. I agree - it is the best of the three as there are three costumes shown and it is a cover. The 2nd image is still questionable but I can say from experience that short of a direct scan, images of the Squadron types are impossible to find.

Asgardian (talk) 13:15, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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Joaquin Pennysworth
This is the current Nighthawk as of issue #6 of the Last Defenders. --68.81.70.65 (talk) 01:23, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

C-Class rated for Comics Project
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Mash-up of Publication history and Fictional character biography
As has been the case with some other articles that have since conformed to WPC MOS, this article confusingly mixes real-world publishing and creative background with make-believe, in-universe material. This needs to be addressed. I've made a first stab, but much more needs to be done.

Also, please do not put comics jargon in the lead. Wikipedia articles are to be written for general audience readers. The more proper place to put such insiderish detail is within the body, where it can be explained in context. -- Tenebrae (talk) 00:41, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Other versions
I'm at a loss at to why this article doesn't follow WPC convention of focusing on the original, main character, and listed others under "Other versions" or even, as in Alternate versions of Doctor Strange, a separate article. Large numbers of Marvel characters have alternate-reality versions; there's no reason that this article and other Squadron Supreme/Sinister characters' articles don't have to follow the same conventions, which were derived by consensus for consistency, simplicity and ease of understanding across the project. -- Tenebrae (talk) 21:46, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Rodgers and Hammerstein

Pulitzer(s)
I don't think they won two pulitzer prizes, only one. I was looking at the pulitzer winner lists, and I don't see their names anywhere else. Danlevenson (talk) 10:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm planning a complete overhaul of this article. If no one objects I will start doing it on December 10, 2005. This will include getting rid of all the sections about the musicals and focusing more on their work together as suggested by the peer review. --kralahome 06:32, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I know I haven't been working on it, but I will soon so I am putting the template back. --kralahome 00:27, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Should we include a song list from all of their musical colaborations? --arctic 05:12, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Musical numbers
I removed the "Musical Numbers" sections; the musical numbers for a given musical can be found on that musical's article page. This article probably needs more work on the musicals section as well, but I'm not sure exactly where to begin. --Vbbdesign 00:04, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

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Title of the song "Oklahoma"
Today's anon IP edits make the dubious and unsourced claim that the title of the song "Oklahoma!" was first "Pennsylvania". The edits have been deleted twice. I am writing this note for the record, in case this possible vandalism continues. In all of the literature on the musical Oklahoma!, I would think that this would have been mentioned. See [] for 1 example of a lengthy discussion of the musical, with no mention at all of this title change. I have requested WP:VERIFY, and will refer to this note in the future, if necessary.. JeanColumbia (talk) 15:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I have just deleted this same dubious claim from the article on the song.JeanColumbia (talk) 15:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, the original title was ''Oh! Calcutta!'' (Just kidding, but you can imagine how dangerous it is when the wind comes sweeping down the plain there!). -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:00, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Section on social issues
If the social issues in some of the productions are going to be pointed out, then I think that it would be best if the idea is developed further. At least the issues in the six profiled ones should be mentioned; i.e., "Oklahoma!," "Carousel," "State Fair," "South Pacific," "The King and I," and "Flower Drum Song." The section could also be organized by pointing out a few main themes and then, in a more detailed way, looking at how various productions address each particular issue. Veritate10 (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

 * True, but it needs some real research to find secondary sources that discuss this. You can't just write up an argument based on your own thesis.  See WP:V and WP:OR.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:17, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Roman Holiday
Under "Previous work and partnerships" I removed an incomplete reference to "Roman Holiday," which said, "Also did Roman Holiday". I have not been able to find any information that mentioned Hammerstein and Kern's involvement with "Roman Holiday." Please add if you have any information concerning that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Veritate10 (talk • contribs) 22:44, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

The King and I
The King and I has been nominated for FAC. Please take a look at the article and give comments at the FAC if you can! -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:02, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Posthumous adaptations in the "Work" section?
I propose that posthumous adaptations should not be included under 'Work' as if they are part of the R&H canon. Otherwise it's confusing, because there are cases where a posthumous production really is the product of the deceased author. (For example, Fred Ebb wrote much of 'Scottsboro Boys' and 'Curtains', but they were only produced years after he died.)

If the adaptation is itself notable (such as Hwang's rewrite of 'Flower Drum Song'), it should be discussed on the relevant page. (Which it is.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NeoAdamite (talk • contribs) 16:01, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

 * After leaving this comment a year ago, I removed the "works" with mostly new books, only to have the change reverted on the grounds that the new books use the old scores. Why do the derived works deserve inclusion, since Hammerstein had no part in them? We could do what was done on the Gershwin page, things like "an original 1983 musical using previously written Gershwin songs," but why bother at all, as the derived works are covered on their own pages? (If this was the Richard Rodgers page, not the R&H page, I could see it making sense.) NeoAdamite (talk) 19:47, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

 * I am sorry that I did not notice or understand the import of your message last year, but I am not convinced that the posthumous adaptations should not be included. I do not think it is correct to say that Hammerstein had no part in them. He wrote the lyrics and conceived the stories or, in many cases had much to do with the book or screenplay.  For example, the 1997 Cinderella remake is certainly Hammerstein's Cinderella. But I am not certain about all of them. Why don't you explain, item by item, why you think each one does not belong on the list, and perhaps there is a compromise?  All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:13, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

 * My thought is a possible middle ground might be segregating them in the infobox under the subheading "Posthumous adaptations".--Wehwalt (talk) 13:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * That would make sense to me. Distinguishing the genuine article from retreads, but nonetheless listing things visitors to the page might expect to see.  Tim riley  talk    14:58, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Clarifying: I failed to spot "infobox" in Wehwalt's suggestion. I was thinking more about the main space. Sorry to muddy the waters.  Tim riley  talk    20:47, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

counting a team

 * Rodgers and Hammerstein refers to an influential, innovative and successful American musical theatre writing team ...

My change of "refers to" to "were" was reverted with the comment ''rv British idiom. This article is written using American English. You can say "was", but not "were".'' Um, really? (I'm American.) I read the subject as, y'know, two names, not the name of a firm. Would a newspaper of their time have said "Rodgers and Hammerstein has done it again"? —Tamfang (talk) 19:31, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

 * This article is about the team (singular), not two men. So "refers to" is better, notwithstanding WP:REFERS. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:29, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Non sequitur. —Tamfang (talk) 23:39, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

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Disney’s Rodgers and Hammerstein’s Cinderella
Should this article mention that the 1997 version of Cinderella was made by Disney for their The Wonderful World of Disney TV program? Is that irrelevant? BlackAdvisor (talk) 17:20, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

 * I've added that it was produced by Disney, but readers should click the link if they want more details. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:31, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Contradiction: how many Oscars?
In the State Fair section: "It was a great success, winning Rodgers and Hammerstein their lone Oscar," but the intro says they won 15 Academy Awards. Cognita (talk) 04:49, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

 * No, the WP:LEAD says that film versions of their shows won 15 Oscars. But their only Oscar award together was for the song from State Fair.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:02, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

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Princess Sibylla of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

Princess Sibylla of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Sibylle Calma Marie Alice Bathildis Feodora; 18 January 1908 – 28 November 1972) was a member of the Swedish royal family and the mother of the current king of Sweden, Carl XVI Gustaf.

Born into the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, Sibylla was the daughter of Charles Edward, the last duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. She became a Swedish princess when she married Prince Gustaf Adolf, Duke of Västerbotten in 1932. She thus had the prospect of one day becoming queen, but the prince was killed in an airplane crash in 1947 and did not live to ascend the Swedish throne. Her son became king the year after her death.

Early life
Sibylla was born on 18 January 1908 at Schloss Friedenstein in the city of Gotha, one of the two capitals in the Duchy of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha in central Germany. She was the elder daughter and second child of Charles Edward, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, and Princess Victoria Adelaide of Schleswig-Holstein. Her father was a posthumous son of Prince Leopold, Duke of Albany, the youngest son of Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom and Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. Prince Charles Edward had, at the urging of his grandmother, inherited the position of duke after his uncle in 1900. The same year he had married Princess Victoria Adelaide, who was a daughter of Friedrich Ferdinand, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein and Princess Karoline Mathilde of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Augustenburg, sister of the Empress Augusta Victoria.

Like the other princes of the German Empire, her father was forced to abdicate in November 1918, just before the end of World War I, when the German monarchies were abolished amidst the tumults of the German Revolution of 1918–1919. This also affected Princess Sibylla's position. In 1919, her father was deprived of his British peerages, as a consequence of the Titles Deprivation Act of 1917, which authorized enemies of the United Kingdom during the First World War to be deprived of their British peerages and royal titles. He and his children also lost their entitlement to the titles of Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom and the styles of Royal Highness and Highness.

Princess Sibylla grew up in Coburg with her siblings Hereditary Prince Johann Leopold, Prince Hubertus, Princess Caroline-Mathilde and Prince Friedrich Josias. The children received, as was common in aristocratic circles at the time, their initial schooling by private tutors and governesses. Later, Princess Sibylla attended the Gymnasium Alexandrinum in Coburg and the Kunstgewerbeschule in Weimar.

Marriage
In November 1931, Sibylla was in London to attend the wedding of her paternal first cousin Lady May Cambridge as a bridesmaid. One of the other bridesmaids was her second cousin Princess Ingrid of Sweden, who introduced Sibylla to her brother, Prince Gustaf Adolf, Duke of Västerbotten. Their engagement was announced at Callenberg Castle in Coburg 16 June 1932. Prince Gustaf Adolf was the eldest son of Crown Prince Gustav Adolf of Sweden (later King Gustaf VI Adolf) and Princess Margaret of Connaught, a granddaughter of Queen Victoria. Sibylla and Gustaf Adolf were thus second cousins, as they were both great-grandchildren of Queen Victoria.

The wedding took place in Coburg in October of the same year - known as the "Sweden Year", as in the same year the 300th-anniversary of the death of the great Swedish King Gustavus II Adolphus was marked. Although the monarchy had been abolished, the wedding was still celebrated in an official manner in Coburg, with, among other things, military honors and a public procession, as the German President Paul von Hindenburg had ordered that no honours should be spared. However, as the city of Coburg was already strongly dominated by the Nazi party at the time, the official celebrations there were Nazi influenced, which made a very bad impression in Sweden. On 19 October, Princess Sibylla married Prince Gustaf Adolf in a civil ceremony at the Veste Coburg, followed by a church wedding the following day after, at the St. Moriz Church. The couple spent their honeymoon in Italy before arriving in Stockholm on 25 November 1932.

The couple had five children:

 * Princess Margaretha, Mrs. Ambler (born 31 October 1934) married John Ambler on 30 June 1964. They have three children.
 * Princess Birgitta of Sweden and Hohenzollern (born 19 January 1937) married Prince Johann Georg of Hohenzollern on 25 May 1961. They have three children.
 * Princess Désirée, Baroness Silfverschiöld (born 2 June 1938) married Baron Niclas Silfverschiöld on 5 June 1964. They have three children.
 * Princess Christina, Mrs. Magnuson (born 3 August 1943) married Tord Magnuson on 15 June 1974. They have three sons.
 * Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden (born 30 April 1946) married Silvia Sommerlath on 19 June 1976. They have three children.

Princess of Sweden
The couple settled at Haga Palace, and their four daughters were to be commonly known during their childhood as the "Hagaprinsessorna" (English: "The Haga Princesses"). Sibylla shared her husband's enthusiasm for sport and outdoor activities, and the couple owned a cottage in Ingarö and another one in Storlien.

During her lifetime, she was appointed chairman of various organisations such as Sällskapet Barnavård (English: "The Childcare Society") in 1948 and the honorary chairmanship of the Hörselfrämjandet (English: "The Hearing Society") in 1935; the Sveriges flickscoutråd (English: "The Swedish Girl Scouts") in 1939; Kvinnliga bilkåren (English: "The Women's Automobile Force") in 1939; the Stiftelsen Solstickan (English: "The Solstickan Society") in 1941; and the Stiftelsen Drottning Victorias Vilohem på Öland (English: "The Queen Victoria Resting Home in Öland") in 1951. In 1938, she founded the Prinsessan Sibyllas S:t Martin-stiftelse (English: "The Princess Sibylla Foundation of St Martin").

Widowhood

Sibylla became a widow in 1947 when Gustaf Adolf died in an airplane crash at the Copenhagen Airport in Denmark. Their only son, Carl Gustaf, became second-in-line to the throne at the age of nine months and, later, Crown Prince at the age of four. In 1950, Sibylla moved from Haga to the Royal Palace of Stockholm. During the summers, she stayed at Solliden. During these years, she developed an interest in environmental issues.

After her stepmother-in-law, Queen Louise, died in 1965, Princess Sibylla became the highest ranking woman in the royal family. She took over her duties in support of her father-in-law, King Gustaf VI Adolf. During these years, she enjoyed somewhat more popularity, as she was more exposed, and as her humour and sense of self-irony became more known and appreciated. She continued with the so-called "Democratic ladies lunches" for career women initiated by Queen Louise in 1962 as a replacement for the court presentation.

Sibylla died in Stockholm of cancer less than a year before her son ascended to the throne.


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Ghost net

Ghost nets are fishing nets that have been abandoned, lost, or otherwise discarded in the ocean, lakes, and rivers. These nets, often nearly invisible in the dim light, can be left tangled on a rocky reef or drifting in the open sea. They can entangle fish, dolphins, sea turtles, sharks, dugongs, crocodiles, seabirds, crabs, and other creatures, including the occasional human diver. Acting as designed, the nets restrict movement, causing starvation, laceration and infection, and suffocation in those that need to return to the surface to breathe. It's estimated that around 48 million tons (48,000 kt) of lost fishing gear is generated each year, not including those that were abandoned or discarded and these may linger in the oceans for a considerable time before breaking-up.

Description

Some commercial fishermen use gillnets. These are suspended in the sea by flotation buoys, such as glass floats, along one edge. In this way they can form a vertical wall hundreds of metres long, where any fish within a certain size range can be caught. Normally these nets are collected by fishermen and the catch removed.

If this is not done, the net can continue to catch fish until the weight of the catch exceeds the buoyancy of the floats. The net then sinks, and the fish are devoured by bottom-dwelling crustaceans and other fish. Then the floats pull the net up again and the cycle continues. Given the high-quality synthetics that are used today, the destruction can continue for a long time.

The problem is not just nets but ghost gear in general; old-fashioned crab traps, without the required "rot-out panel", also sit on the bottom, where they become self-baiting traps that can continue to trap marine life for years. Even balled-up fishing line can be deadly for a variety of creatures, including birds and marine mammals. Over time the nets become more and more tangled. In general, fish are less likely to be trapped in gear that has been down a long time.

Fishermen sometimes abandon worn-out nets because it is often the easiest way to get rid of them.

The French government offered a reward for ghost nets handed in to local coastguards along sections of the Normandy coast between 1980 and 1981. The project was abandoned when people vandalized nets to claim rewards, without retrieving anything at all from the shoreline or ocean.

In September 2015, the Global Ghost Gear Initiative (GGGI) was created by the World Animal Protection to give a unique and stronger voice to the cause.

The term ALDFG means "abandoned, lost and discarded fishing gear".

Environmental impact
From 2000 to 2012, the National Marine Fisheries Service reported an average of 11 large whales entangled in ghost nets every year along the US west coast. From 2002 to 2010, 870 nets were recovered in Washington (state) with over 32,000 marine animals trapped inside. Ghost gear is estimated to account for 10% (640,000 tonnes) of all marine litter.

An estimated 46% of the Great Pacific garbage patch consists of fishing related plastics. Fishing nets account for about 1% of the total mass of all marine macroplastics larger than 200 mm, and plastic fishing gear overall constitutes over two-thirds of the total mass.

According to the SeaDoc Society, each ghost net kills $20,000 worth of Dungeness crab over 10 years. The Virginia Institute of Marine Science calculated that ghost crab pots capture 1.25 million blue crabs each year in the Chesapeake Bay alone.

In May 2016, the Australian Fisheries Management Authority (AFMA) recovered 10 tonnes of abandoned nets within the Australian Exclusive Economic Zone and Torres Strait protected zone perimeters. One protected turtle was rescued.

The northern Australian olive ridley sea turtle Lepidochelys olivacea, is a genetically distinct variation of the olive ridley sea turtle. Ghost nets pose a threat to the continued existence of the northern Australian variety. Without further action to preserve the northern Australian olive ridley sea turtle, the population could face extinction.

Researches in Brazil used social media to estimate how ghost nets have negatively affected the Brazilian marine biota. Footage of ghost nets found on Google and YouTube were obtained and analyzed to arrive at the results of the study. They found that ghost nets have an adverse effect on several marine species, including large marine animals, such as the Bryde's whale and Guiana dolphin.

Alternative materials and practice
Unlike synthetic fishing nets, biodegradable fishing nets decompose naturally under water after a certain period of time. Coconut fibre (coir) fishing nets are commercially made and are hence a practical solution that can be taken by fishermen.

Technology systems for marking and tracking fishing gear, including GPS tracking, are being trialled to promote greater accountability and transparency.

Collection and recycling
Legalizing gear retrievals and establishing waste management systems is required to manage and mitigate abandoned, lost, and discarded fishing gear at-sea. The company Net-works worked out a solution to turn discarded fishing nets into carpet tiles.

Between 2008 and 2015, the US Fishing for Energy initiative collected 2.8 million pounds of fishing gear, and in partnership with Covanta Energy turned this into enough electricity to power 182 homes for one year by incineration.

One retrieval initiative in Southwest Nova Scotia in Canada conducted 60 retrieval trips, searched ~1523 square kilometers of the seafloor and removed 7064 kg of abandoned, lost, and discarded fishing gear (ALDFG) (comprising 66% lobster traps and 22% dragger cable). Lost traps continued to capture target and non-target species. A total of 15 different species were released from retrieved ALDFG, including 239 lobsters (67% were market-sized) and seven groundfish (including five species-at-risk). The commercial losses from ALDFG in Southwest Nova Scotia were estimated at $175,000 CAD annually.

In 2009 world-renowned Dutch technical diver Pascal van Erp started to recover abandoned ghost fishing gear entangled on North Sea wrecks. He soon inspired others. Organised teams of volunteer technical divers recovered tons of ghost fishing gear off the Netherlands coastline. The loop was then closed - after a season's diving 22 tons of fishing gear was sent to the Aquafil Group for recycling back into new Nylon 6 material. In 2012 Pascal van Erp formally founded the not-for-profit Ghost Fishing organisation. In 2020 the Ghost Fishing Foundation rebranded as the Ghost Diving Foundation.

A plan to protect UK seas from ghost fishing was backed by the European Parliament Fisheries Committee in 2018. Mr. Flack, who led the committee, said: "Abandoned fishing nets are polluting our seas, wasting fishing stocks and indiscriminately killing whales, sea lions or even dolphins. The tragedy of ghost fishing must end".

Net amnesty schemes such as Fishing for Litter create incentives for the collection and responsible disposal of end of life fishing gear. These schemes address the root cause for many net abandonments, which is the financial cost of their disposal.

Fishing nets are often made from extremely high quality plastics to ensure suitable strength, which makes them desirable for recycling. Initiatives like Healthy Seas are connecting environmental cleanup projects to manufacturers to re-use these materials. Recycled waste nets can be made into yarn and consumer products, such as swimwear.

In Australia, the Carpentaria Ghost Nets Program has collaborated with indigenous communities to increase awareness of ghost nets and to foster long term solutions. The program has trained indigenous northern Australians in scouting for ghost nets and in removing ghost nets and other plastic pollution.

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Does this mean "watch out for counterfeits"? --Ihope127 23:38, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I think it can do with many problems of a seller/buyer relationship. In a way, a seller and a buyer are very similar: they are both participating in a trade. Here's one example: someone is cleaning out their attic and they sell a box of comic books. A buyer comes up and buys the whole box for $50, knowing full well some of the comics were worth $500! MShonle 23:06, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

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Sharon Go (born 22 February, 1977, in Montr&, Qu&, Canada) is a web designer/graphic artist currently residing in Nice, France. She enjoys reading, camping, kayaking, traveling, working but most of all, spending the maximum amount of her time with her sweetheart.

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The Dive from Clausen's Pier (film)

The Dive from Clausen's Pier is a 2005 Lifetime original film based on an Ann Packer novel directed by Harry Winer and starring Will Estes, Michelle Trachtenberg, and Sean Maher. It premiered on July 25, 2005, on Lifetime.

Mike is a quadriplegic after suffering a major diving accident. His fiancée, Carrie, is not in love with him anymore and is confused and lost after the accident. As a result, she decides to move to Manhattan and away from her small-town life. Along the way she meets a handsome, older man who has problems of his own. Carrie tries to figure out where her place in the world is in a journey of self-discovery.

Many of the characters in the film are in their late teens or early twenties, while in the source novel they are much older. The film also ends on a slightly more optimistic tone than the novel.

The film received a nomination for Outstanding Music Composition for a Miniseries, Movie or a Special (Original Dramatic Score) at the 58th Primetime Emmy Awards in 2006.

Cast

 * Michelle Trachtenberg as Carrie Beal
 * Matthew Edison as Simon
 * Will Estes as Mike Mayer
 * Kristin Fairlie as Jamie
 * Sean Maher as Kilroy
 * Dylan Taylor as Rooster
 * Nathan Weldon as Skateboard Kid Extra
 * Susan Counsel as Christine

Filming location

 * Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

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179 (number)

179 (one hundred [and] seventy-nine) is the natural number following 178 and preceding 180.

In mathematics
179 is part of the Cunningham chain of prime numbers 89, 179, 359, 719, 1439, 2879, in which each successive number is two times the previous number, plus one. Among Cunningham chains of this length, this one has the smallest numbers. Because 179 is neither the start nor the end of this chain, it is both a safe prime and a Sophie Germain prime. It is also a super-prime number, because it is the 41st smallest prime and 41 is also prime. Since 971 (the digits of 179 reversed) is prime, 179 is an emirp.

In other fields
Astronomers have suggested that sunspot frequency undergoes a cycle of approximately 179 years in length.

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Per Ahlmark

Per Axel Ahlmark (15 January 1939 – 8 June 2018) was a Swedish politician and writer. He was the leader of the Liberal People's Party from 1975 to 1978, and Minister for Employment and Deputy Prime Minister in the Swedish government from 1976 to 1978. He also served as a member of the Swedish parliament from 1967 to 1978.

Early life and education
Ahlmark was born in Stockholm, Sweden, as the son of the professor in medicine Axel Ahlmark and the dentist Gunvor Berglund. He completed upper secondary education at Södra Latin in Stockholm and earned a BA in political science from Stockholm University in 1964.

Political career
Ahlmark joined the Liberal Youth of Sweden in 1960 and was elected chairman of the organization the same year. He served as chairman of the Liberal Youth until 1962 and as a member of the board of the Liberal People's Party from 1960 to 1978. He was elected a member of the upper house of the Swedish parliament from 1967 to 1969 (representing the constituency of Örebro County) and as a member of the lower house from 1969 to 1970 (representing the constituency of Stockholm Municipality). Following the unicameral reform in Sweden in 1970–1971, Ahlmark served as a member of the unicameral parliament until 1978. He also served as a member of the Council of Europe from 1971 to 1976, and as deputy chairman of the Martin Luther King Fund from 1968 to 1973.

On 7 November 1975, Ahlmark succeeded Gunnar Helén as leader of the Liberal People's Party. from 1975 to 1978. From 1976 to 1978, in the first non-socialist government in Sweden in forty years, Ahlmark served as Minister for Employment and Deputy Prime Minister. On 7 March 1978, Ahlmark retired from party politics for personal reasons. From 1978 to 1981 he served as chairman of the board of the Swedish Film Institute.

Writings and political views
Ahlmark published several political books and many hundreds of articles about politics, literature and international conflicts. During the 1980s he published three books of poetry, one novel and two books of essays. He was a columnist for Expressen, then the largest daily newspaper in Scandinavia, from 1961 to 1995. From 1997 to 2018 he was a columnist for Dagens Nyheter, the largest Swedish morning paper, and a contributor to Göteborgs-Posten. In his writings he accuses the political left in Sweden of being uncritical towards the totalitarian communist regimes especially after 1968.

He was a strong supporter of the state of Israel. From 1970 to 1997 he served as deputy chairman of the Sweden–Israel Friendship Association. He co-founded the Swedish Committee Against Antisemitism in 1983 and served as its deputy chairman until 1995. In 1997 he founded the Sweden–Taiwan Friendship Association.

Ahlmark served as an advisor to the Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity since 1987, and was a member of board of the Geneva-based NGO UN Watch since 1993.

In 1994, Ahlmark published the widely debated book Vänstern och tyranniet ("Tyranny and the Left"), which is the major work on Swedish fellow travellers and political pilgrims during the last thirty years. This book triggered one of the most heated discussions in recent decades in Sweden about freedom and its enemies. His next work, Det öppna såret ("The Open Sore"), makes a summary of new research regarding democracy and dictatorship respectively in terms of war, genocide/mass murder, and famine. His last book in the same field was Det är demokratin, dumbom! ("It's the Democracy, Stupid!"), published in 2004.

Ahlmark supported the U.S.-led 2003 invasion of Iraq, and was extremely critical of Hans Blix (who is also a prominent member of the Swedish Liberal People's Party and served as Ahlmark's deputy chairman in the Liberal Youth of Sweden). In an article in The Washington Times, Ahlmark described Blix as politically "weak and easily fooled" and a "wimp".

In February 2006, Ahlmark wrote in the Wall Street Journal that he had officially nominated former U.S. undersecretary of state John Bolton and American investigative reporter Kenneth R. Timmerman for the Nobel Peace Prize. Calling them "the good guys" for having exposed Iran's nuclear weapons program and worked to curtail it, he again criticized his former deputy Hans Blix and the IAEA for having been "duped for 18 years" by Iran.

The Per Ahlmark Foundation
On account of Ahlmark's 70th birthday in 2009, a new foundation called The Per Ahlmark Foundation was established in October 2008 by the Jewish assembly in Stockholm. The stated purpose of the foundation is to "promote scientific research and education in political science, the history of ideas and Jewish history, as well as in economics, all with particular focus on issues concerning democracy and human rights". The foundation is chaired by the Swedish businessman Robert Weil and honorary chairman is the rabbi Michael Melchior.

Personal life
Ahlmark was first married to the journalist Lillemor Melsted in 1965. From 1978 to 1981 he was married to the actress Bibi Andersson.

Ahlmark died on 8 June 2018 at the age of 79.

Honors and awards

 * Defender of Jerusalem Award, Jabotinsky Foundation, 1986 (co-recipients: Luis Alberto Monge, Eliahu Essas)
 * Honorary fellow, Hebrew University of Jerusalem, 1992
 * Dialogue Award, Norwegian Jews, 1996
 * Honorary Medal, Danish Raoul Wallenberg Society, 1998
 * Torgny Segerstedt Award, Sweden–Israel Friendship Association, 1999
 * Honorary doctor, Hebrew College, Boston, 2000
 * Order of Brilliant Star, Government of Taiwan, 2000
 * Honorary doctor, Hebrew University of Jerusalem, 2002 (co-recipients: Umberto Eco, Steven Spielberg)
 * Bertil Ohlin Medal, Liberal Youth of Sweden, 2004
 * Jan Karski Award, American Jewish Committee, 2004

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Roughly Obsess and Destroy

Roughly Obsess & Destroy (abbreviated in writing as RO&D, spoken as R.O.D.) was a professional wrestling stable founded in 2003 in All Japan Pro Wrestling (AJPW) by Taka Michinoku, disbanding in 2006, and later briefly reforming in Pro Wrestling Noah in 2007. Debuting in 2003 as an initially heel group of mostly gaijin wrestlers recruited by Taka Michinoku during his time working for World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) in the United States, the group initially consisted of him, Gigantes and The Gladiator, but was composed primarily of him, Taiyo Kea, D'Lo Brown, Buchanan and Jamal throughout their peak.

With the introduction of the new heel Voodoo Murders unit in 2005, RO&D subsequently turned face and became popular with fans for their pre match promos and catchphrase, "R.O.D., boo-yah!". After they were defeated by the Voodoo Murders in a losing team disbands match on September 16, 2006, Taka disbanded the group, with the only remaining members at the time being himself and Kea, as RO'Z, Buchanan and D'Lo Brown had all defected to the Voodoo Murders.

Appearing at Pro Wrestling Noah's Nippon Budokan show on April 24, 2007, Taka announced his intention to revive the group in Noah, with himself, D'Lo Brown, Buchanan and Kazma Sakamoto as the new members. D'Lo and Buchanan briefly held the GHC Tag Team Championship in 2007, however, the group effectively disbanded again when Brown re-signed with WWE in June 2008. Brown returned to NOAH the following year, where he and Buchanan briefly used the RO&D name as a tag team.

Formation and early years (2003–2004)
RO&D was initially formed in October 2003, as Taka Michinoku announced he would be forming a stable composed of himself and the strongest gaijin he knew of. Three names were initially considered for the group, these being "Yoshida-ya USA", "RAGD" (Rough and Greats Destroyers Crew), and the name the group finally came to be known as "RO&D" (Roughly Obsess & Destroy). The group's first two members were The Gladiator and Gigantes, later also recruiting D'Lo Brown, Buchanan, Justin Credible and Jamal in December; however, the group would be dealt a blow early in its life as Gigantes suddenly died in his hotel room while on tour on December 6.

In early 2004, Taka recruited a new member for the group, Hawaiian Taiyo Kea, unique to the other members in the sense that he was a gaijin, but was trained by and had spent his entire career up to that point in AJPW. Early in their run, the group primarily feuded with Keiji Muto, Kensuke Sasaki and his Kensuke Family group, Toshiaki Kawada, Satoshi Kojima and the rest of the babyface All Japan roster. The addition of Kea also saw the formation of a successful tag team between himself and Jamal, with the two combining to win the 2004 Worlds Strongest Tag Determination League, defeating KojiKaz (Satoshi Kojima and Kaz Hayashi) in the final and dedicating their victory to Gigantes.

Rise in popularity and face turn (2005)
At one point in early 2005, the group had a monopoly on all available championships in All Japan bar the Triple Crown, as Kea and Jamal held the World Tag Team Championship, Buchanan and Rico Constantino held the All Asia Tag Team Championship and Taka Michinoku held the World Junior Heavyweight Championship, the most successful period of the group's lifespan. Around this time, they began to gain popularity with fans for their catchphrase and pre and post match promos, showing signs of a full face turn, which was officially realised after the introduction of the rival Voodoo Murders stable. VM followed a similar theme to RO&D with heavy gaijin inclusion, however, their leader was the villainous Taru and the group were portrayed as much more ruthless heels, generating sympathy for RO&D and leading to their face turn. RO&D would feud with the group throughout 2005 as faces, with Taka later recruiting New Japan Pro Wrestling (NJPW)'s Masahiro Chono as a special one night member in July, and the group producing their own event, "RO&D Festival ~ Boo Ya! The World" in September.

Final success and first breakup (2006)
A brief dissension angle played out within the group between Kea and Brown in early 2006, which ended after Kea defeated Brown in a singles match in March, after which they reconciled. Kea achieved the group's greatest individual success soon after this, as he defeated Suwama to win the 2006 Champion Carnival in April and beat Satoshi Kojima in July to win the Triple Crown for the first time in his career. In June, Taka recruited RO'Z into the group, relative and tag team partner of former member Jamal, who had since returned to WWE. RO'Z's time in the group would be short lived, however, as he would abandon RO&D to join the Voodoo Murders on September 3. As the feud between the two groups began to reach its peak, a losing stable disbands match was organised for September 17 in Korakuen Hall, putting Taka, Kea, Buchanan & D'Lo against Taru, Suwama, Yasshi and RO'Z. During the match, Buchanan and D'Lo both abandoned Taka and Kea, turning heel once again and joining the Voodoo Murders in the process, allowing them to win and force RO&D to disband. The two would be aided by Keiji Muto and Kaz Hayashi, who helped them even the odds against the Voodoo Murders, after which Taka officially announced the disbandment of the group. He and Kea would remain face and begin fighting alongside Muto and the other members of the All Japan Army against the Voodoo Murders.

Second incarnation (2007–2009)
On April 24, 2007, Taka Michinoku appeared at Pro Wrestling Noah's event at Nippon Budokan and announced his intention to reform RO&D with himself, former members Bull Buchanan and D'Lo Brown and his trainee Kazma. The new RO&D debuted the following month in Korakuen Hall, as Taka, Buchanan and D'Lo defeated Go Shiozaki, Mohammed Yone and Takeshi Morishima. Taka's appearances would become more sporadic soon after this, while Buchanan and D’Lo continued to use the name as a tag team. They had their first chance for gold in Noah in June, where they unsuccessfully challenged Jun Akiyama and Takeshi Rikio for the GHC Tag Team Championship. In October, the two entered a tournament for the vacant championships, winning them by defeating Go Shiozaki and Akira Taue on October 16, however, they would lose the titles to Naomichi Marufuji and Takashi Sugiura a little over a week later. The two would continue to compete for Noah until Brown re-signed with WWE in June 2008. They briefly reunited the following year, and entered the Global Tag League, where they did not advance to the next stage. The group would essentially dissolve again after this.

Members

 * Taka Michinoku
 * Taiyō Kea
 * D'Lo Brown
 * Buchanan
 * Jamal
 * Rico Constantino
 * The Gladiator
 * Gigantes
 * Justin Credible
 * Matt Morgan
 * RO'Z
 * KAZMA
 * Masahiro Chono (one-night member)
 * PSYCHO (honorary member)
 * BLUE-K (honorary member)

Championships and accomplishments

 * All Japan Pro Wrestling
 * All Asia Tag Team Championship (1 time) - Buchanan and Rico Constantino
 * Triple Crown Heavyweight Championship (1 time) - Taiyō Kea
 * World Junior Heavyweight Championship (1 time) - Taka Michinoku
 * World Tag Team Championship (1 time) - Taiyō Kea and Jamal
 * Champion Carnival (2006) - Taiyō Kea
 * World's Strongest Tag Determination League (2004) - Taiyō Kea and Jamal
 * January 2 Korakuen Hall Heavyweight Battle Royal (2004) - Jamal

 * Hawai'i Championship Wrestling
 * HCW Kekaulike Heritage Tag Team Championship (1 time) – Taiyō Kea and Jamal

 * Kaientai Dojo
 * Strongest-K Championship (1 time) - Taka Michinoku
 * FMW/WEW Hardcore Tag Team Championship (1 time) – Taka Michinoku with Tomo Michinoku

 * Michinoku Pro Wrestling
 * Tohoku Junior Heavyweight Championship (1 time) - Taka Michinoku

 * Pro Wrestling Noah
 * GHC Tag Team Championship (1 Time) - D'Lo Brown and Buchanan
 * Global Tag League Technique Prize (2008, 2009)- D'Lo Brown and Buchanan

 * Tokyo Sports
 * Technique Prize (2005) - Taka Michinoku

title: Roughly Obsess and Destroy


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Talk:2005 Pacific typhoon season

2005 PTS article class rating
It would be nice if people can also look at this article to be improved as I believe we are nearly there. As of this message the article is at a 'Start' class, and closing in into a 'C'. Amount of information in each storm article is decent enough for an upgrade. We only need citations in each storm article as they are quite lacking, a season summary paragraph and seasonal forecasts section. Any decent information should be put in here as well. Typhoon2013 (talk) 03:23, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

title: Talk:2005 Pacific typhoon season